The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 679 - Darrelle Revis, Ian Rapoport, Albert Breer, Dana White, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: June 7, 2022

Today's show is absolutely LOADED. Joining Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys are four incredible guests. First, Super Bowl Champion, 7x Pro Bowler, 4x All-Pro, member of the 2010's All-Decade team, one of the greatest Cornerbacks of all-time, Darrelle Revis joins the show to chat about his career as a whole, getting his funk back, his relationship with the Jets, and much more in an incredible conversation (19:51-56:20). Next, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport joins the progrum to give us updates on everything going on around the league as 12 teams have officially reported (57:02-1:13:18). Later, Senior NFL reporter and author of The Monday Morning Quarterback, Albert Breer joins the show to chat about how he compiles everything for MMQB, when he thinks a punishment for Deshaun Watson is coming, when he thinks we might get some movement on Baker Mayfield and Jimmy Garoppolo, being a direct competitor with Peter King after being hand picked to replace him at MMQB, and much more (1:13:56-1:45:29). Lastly, friend of the progrum, President of the UFC, Dana White joins the show to chat about this weekend's UFC 275 card and what we can expect, his thoughts on the PGA Tour/LIV Golf and how it's similar to what he has to deal with with other fight leagues, the possibility of Jon Jones vs. Stipe Miocic in the future, and much more (1:45:31-2:04:09). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people. It is mandatory minicamp opens for 12 more teams Tuesday, June 7th, 2022. This sports show begins now. Can't thank you enough for joining us here at youtube.com forward slash the Pat McAfee show. You are the best people on earth. The fact that you spend your afternoons with us, we are eternally grateful. And yes, there are 12 teams starting their mandatory mini-camp so all the players are back in the buildings except for Chicago Bears. They were actually kicked out of the building for a day because the Chicago Bears

were cheating in May. So they actually got suspended one mandatory mini-camp practice because they were abusing and beating the rules that the NFL has put in place. Every team do it bye-bye and the Chicago Bears just couldn't do it, so they got one of their practices wiped off the entire schedule. The bad boys are in the building.

Can't stop us now. Yeah, I wonder how Ibraflux is doing with the boys up there, putting pads on in May. They're calling around every other team going, you guys got pads on? You guys got pads on? No, there's actually no pads in May rule. Oh, is that right? The NFLPA probably looked into it.

The NFL looked into it. They probably pulled cameras by the way from the practice facility from the practice fields and said, hey, you got pads on right here. Minus the practice that everybody else has. Who knows what that means for the Chicago Bears. They did get to go early an extra week because of a new

head coach. So maybe they got confused on the number of weeks into the thing because they had the extra week at the beginning with the new head coach. Let's assume that was the case. But with that being said, Bears lose a practice. Nobody else does. Are the Bears already losing this NFL season? I just found out

team bonding. They're bowling today. So they're getting together. They're good time bonding together as a team. Averflus is trying to make it up to the boys. I apologize. I just found out team bonding, they're bowling today, so they're getting together. They're good time bonding together as a team. Averflus is trying to make it up to the boys. I apologize. I was running your heads into each other a lot earlier than everybody else was allowed to do so. Because CT became a real thing, they put in actual rules, and I said, fuck those rules. This is the Monsters

of the Midway or not. I would 1,000% think they won a week ahead of time because they had the new head coach, so they get an extra week. They probably had their entire OTA phases drawn out exactly how everybody else's is without accounting for the week in advance that they had, which is just an add-on to the beginning phase

as opposed to an advancement of phases past everybody else. So let's assume that's what happened. They're not complete stooges or trying to run their players into the ground. But aside from that, a lot of teams hitting the fields this week. We are pumped about it because that means the NFL at Boston Corner is only...

93 days away, Pat. Here we go. We're right there. 93 gas right now, about 620. But 93 days in the NFL is excitement and joy. At Ty Schmidt, the other member of the toxic table next to that boss, and Connor Tundig, you've been wanting to say something. Well, you laid out some good options for the Bears. You forgot option D, where Fluse was like, this team fucking stinks.

We need to get as many bad practices as we possibly can. Let's roll with that. Thank you, Foxy. What does that even mean? The worried about the Lions is what I read. Well, I don't think we ever had that. That's what you read. Don't want to finish. That's what with that. Thank you, Foxy. What does that even mean? The worried about the Lions is what I read. That's what you read. Don't want to finish. You guys are going to be on hard knocks.

Everybody's going to know exactly what your game plan is because MCDC is going to be tasked with editing that and giving a final view. It's good, man. Leave it in there. Leave it in there. He's going to need a lot of coffee for that then. A lot of dish dish.

The guy's becoming an editor, a producer, a director, a final screener, and the head coach of a football team that hasn't been good in 200 years. A football team that's going to go 10-7 and win a playoff game this year. Maybe, but who knows if the Bears will be able to do the same. I believe the Bears have the worst odds in the NFC North. The Detroit Lions have the third best odds. Obviously, the Vikings at second, and the Green Bay Packers are the only minus one. Oh, yeah.

Minus 170. Yeah, the Bucs are minus 320, I guess. They are way past everybody in the NFC South. And the Bills, minus 180 because the sorry-ass Patriots are plus 400 to win the AFC East. Colts? What's that? Colts? Well, the reason why the Colts are minus 105 for the AFC South,

and I don't want to mention it because there's no reason for us to talk about this or draw any spotlight to this because we don't need the folks down in Nashville to draw any type of chip on the shoulder. They were the number one team in the AFC going into the playoffs. They had 90 players on their roster. That's right. Yikes. They had 30-some players go through IR, 40-some players go through IR. We didn't even know any of the players on their roster. That's right. Yikes. They had 30-some players go through IR, 40-some players go through IR.

We didn't even know any of the players on their team, basically. And Vrabes somehow got them to be the number one team in the entire AFC in the playoffs. Now, obviously, they lose to the Cincinnati Bengals, who became a wagon there and are going to be awesome to watch this year. But nobody needs to talk about the Colts being minus 105 to win the AFC South. You know why the Colts are minus 105 to win the AFC South, Connor? I don't know. Why is that? Well, that's because the sportsbook, John Sheeran, more specific,

whenever he watched that Colts team last year, he said, God damn, this team is unbelievable. This team is stacked. Look at the defense. They got all pros all over the place. The offensive line, maybe the best offensive line in all of football, they got an MVP candidate, a running back. Now, the wide receiver weapons may be a little bit light there,

but they got some young studs. Special teams, absolute guys there. They are stacked across the board. What did they not have? A quarterback stunk. A Navy SEAL. Yeah. A fucking astronaut playing quarterback.

That's right. A quarterback. Reggie Wayne said it made him sick to his stomach. He almost vomited with how much Matt Ryan is similar to Peyton Manning. They got a guy now that has accepted the fucking cop gun. Okay, who's the quarterback of the Indianapolis Colts. They're paying him a lot of money. Matt Ryan's already calling up the boys on offense after a walkthrough and saying, hey, this shit ain't fucking cutting it.

And everybody responded well. Buckner and the boys on defense said it was nice to see a quarterback round up the troops and say, hey, this ain't the way this thing goes because I do believe that's how the defense has been operating for a few years now. Now Matt Ryan's doing the same amount of accountability they're doing on defense side of the ball. There's no clown town disappointments this year.

At minus 105, those sportsbooks who might be time travelers, they get things so oddly close to 100% right so often that it makes us wonder if they got a little inside scoop on what's potentially happening in the future. And if they're putting the Colts at minus 105, they know what I've been feeling. And that's it. Matt Ryan's going to turn that whole squad back.

This is a first mandatory minicamp. We'll learn more today about what these boys are feeling. And that's it. Matt Ryan's going to turn that whole squad back. This is a first mandatory minicamp. We'll learn more today about what these boys are about. You should be worried. You should be worried. So should you. I'm not worried. What? We'll see you guys later.

We'll see you guys later. The Patriots have the Super Bowl favorites, the MVP favorite in the division. We're not worried about the Colts. But I thought it was more so about the fact that the Titans lose A.J. Brown. They get Robert Woods, who's coming off an injury. They're basically relying on a rookie wide receiver, Traylon Burks, to kind of carry the offense. They lost a few offensive

linemen. I mean, I love what the Colts are doing. That's not what it is. But I think that also has a lot to do with it. I don't think so. Today's show is packed, by the way. In about 10 minutes, we'll have Terrell Revis join us. Whoa. Holy shit.

Revis Island, founder. Yeah. Won a Super Bowl at the pass. Just changed football. Yeah. Good seven to eight years. It was just Revis time. Hey, team, what team is going to pay him to a one-year deal or a two-year deal,

fully guaranteed that's going to be worth more than everybody else? And what defense coordinators are going to be like, oh, thank God. All right. So we'll just cover – half the field is being covered by this guy. Just go ahead and put him over there. We'll be able to do everything else. His teammates benefited mightily from it. His teams benefited mightily from it.

I, the last time I was on the field with him at the same time, he won an ESPY. Yeah. So that would be a good conversation. Putting the ball, he beat everybody. He ran past me and I got blocked. Also, you guys would know better than any of us, but I was reading his Wikipedia about his high school exploits as well. I mean, in the state championship, I think his sophomore year, scored five touchdowns,

had an interception, blocked a punt, all this. And then basketball, I think, won two state championships. So where he's from, a bunch of dogs. I mean, they create dogs over there. Sports, dogs. Life, dogs. And he became the baddest and best DB in the damn game for a long time and held it down all by himself.

He's vastly different than every other corner that gets compared to him. Now, I guess Dion plays in the same fashion fashion i wish i knew more about the db world but there's not a lot of daryl rivas's that have ever been in the nfl and we get to talk to him in about nine minutes or so he's going into the new york jets ring of honor ring of honor this year i believe in december or no november him mangled and to break the shaw ferguson all three are going in this season so the jets are you know wo Woody Johnson saying, hey, we've got a quarterback. We've got a new team.

We're going to put in some alumni that are good. It wasn't always terrible. We had some good players. Let's go ahead and do this whole thing. I can't wait to chat with Revis. In the second hour, we've got Ian Rappaport. Okay. Yeah, he's fresh probably off a golf course.

I would assume. What's going on in the world? What does he know? What does he not know? We'll ask him. We'll hopefully get updated. And Albert Breer will join us. Albert Breer writes the Monday Morning Quarterback for Sports Illustrated.

That's right. He mentioned our Russell Wilson Let's Ride coverage in his thing. Sent a bunch of people that don't normally watch our stuff to our video. Now, obviously, I think we created maybe some new fans. So thank you, Albert. Thank you, Albert. Certainly heard a lot of people that did not like the way we cover sports. Sure.

So thank you, Albert. Thank you lot of people that did not like the way we cover sports sure so thank you albert thank you albert thank you albert uh but i believe he watches and listens to some of our stuff so i can't wait to chat with him he obviously got handed a column or blog from peter king and now peter king is his direct competition they both released the same thing on monday morning yeah and we are very lucky that we get to read for both of them but i'll be excited to hear albert breer's process who he knows, who he doesn't know, and what's potentially down the pipe, Albert. Yeah. I mean, I would think for something like that, too.

He's not technically an insider, but every week those come out and there are a bunch of nuggets that it seems like no one else knows other than him and Peter King. Well, and they just say stuff. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Like, there'll be rumors. I'll hear rumors. And we won't talk about it because it's just rumors. Now, allegedly, we were duped into doing an alleged report yesterday.

What? Which one? Russell Wilson, five year, two hundred fifty million dollars was just projected by some reporter who was speculating, not reporting like the Posterknock thing. Like the posture knock thing. Which has not been talked about on this show, but definitely in the office. Yeah, that's right. Way to get ahead of that one. Way to. It's the exact same thing. I just popped up in my brain.

That was D-block, but you brought it in here. Yes. So there has been a couple situations with the internet where people who are reporters or insiders have speculated upon something, and then it has either been taken by them or by other people as a report of something, and then boom, we have to talk about it because it's pretty big names with pretty big numbers.

For instance, Russell Wilson allegedly was asking the Denver Broncos with two years left on his contract, the one that he signed that we remember as a celebration, he was in bed with Sierra. That's right. Two years left on that deal. Allegedly, the asking price is going to be five years, $250 million. So that's $50 million guaranteed every single year for five years, which is going right now for quarterbacks.

And what will it be in three years? Russell Wilson will probably be underpaid. Then you can take it or leave it. So that was being reported as a report. It was just speculation by a reporter who has inside information. Okay. So I'm happy we cleared that up. Pasternak.

Oh, of course. Boston Bruins right winger is being traded to the Pittsburgh Penguins this offseason. I was going to say, this one seems a little bit more credible. This seems like it's basically a done deal. He will be traded. I read it on Twitter. I read it on Twitter. It's the same exact thing.

But, I mean, you know, hockey's been dead for a couple weeks now, so who cares? Actually, Rangers-Tampa tonight, game four. Yeah, can't wait. Will Tampa be able to make this thing all square through four because they had a two-week break and came out a little bit cold and New York Rangers won the first two games. Is that how this thing's going to go? Is New York going to be

able to steal one down in the storm, or are they going to get them back home 2-2? We shall see this evening, but P pasta not coming to the Penguins. Great news. Probably not. Fire the coach tonight, Scale. Yeah, Bruce. See you.

Everyone's hurt. Everyone's getting surgery. Hey, they need to turn over, rebuild, get a lot of pasta. Rebuild ahead. See you. Bye. Bye. Pasta or not.

Pittsburgh loves pasta. We do. So does Massachusetts. No, you don't know about pasta like Pittsburgh does pasta. We do. So does Massachusetts. No, you don't know about pasta like Pittsburgh does pasta. Are you kidding me? There's so many Italian people in Massachusetts. You're talking about Potato Boston. Well, yeah, we do pour. I actually did find out this weekend

Boston has a bar called Mr. Dooley's that pours the most pints of Guinness in the continental United States. No big deal. Well, that's what we're talking about, though, with the pasta thing in Pittsburgh. Well, don't worry. We got a north end that a bunch of Italian people live in. We got plenty of other places where a lot of Italian people live in.

Whoa, those butts come out of here. Whoa. What do you mean? Bunch of. Did you hear that? What are you talking about? You know what else Pittsburgh has? A lot of pierogies.

You know who makes pierogies? People from the Czech Republic and Slovakia like pasta. Well, why was pasta hanging out with David Krejci? Like, you know, Ruppert was telling us, and Krejci might come back. Is Krejci on the road? Nobody knows what that means, but who cares? Let's move on. Pasta's coming to the Pens.

That's all that matters. That's Hockey Talk tomorrow night. What are you guys talking about? Probably about pasta coming to the Pens. All right, that's awesome. Once again, that is something that a reporter is speculating upon, but is being reported as a report from an insider. That's right.

Those are the little potholes on the road of day-to-day sports coverage that we are going to continue to try to avoid. Yeah, but that's the offseason. You've got to talk about it. Russell Wilson gets five years, 250. What do you think Lamar Jackson and Herbert are going to warrant? Burrow. Burrow, yeah.

Kyler Murray. Are they going to wait now? Is that what Lamar's doing? Lamar, there's a video that surfaced on the internet of him on one knee in slides, throwing the ball 50 yards. Now, I don't believe Lamar Jackson was the one saying, hey, this is an incredibly impressive throw. I believe whoever recorded this said Lamar Jackson's got an absolute cannon.

From the 50, one knee down, one knee up in slides, completion in the end zone. Unbelievable display of accuracy and arm strength, although the internet can't help themselves and say, we've seen 100 people do something much more impressive than this. But the thing about it is Lamar Jackson's always been kind of buried about his arm. I think that's all the haters try to pinpoint and look at. Looks like he hit that guy right in the fucking chest from 50 yards away on a knee. That's the more impressive thing that I could see because I have seen guys

offensive linemen, DBs, wide receivers, other quarterbacks that aren't great at playing football but are great at throwing the football, take an E, throw the ball through the uprights from the 50 into the back. I mean, that is something that a lot of great, strong-armed

humans can accomplish normally ex-baseball players that come over to football whether they're big pitchers they got big arms but they have no idea how to read a defense they have no clue what's going on they have no touch no finesse but they can throw the ball forever lamar jackson's working on his past game i don't know why the internet's gotta be so rude about it all the time yeah i don't know why they're being rude especially because you know just last year he was getting, you know, film throwing a duck. I mean, that's a perfect spot right there. I'm just glad they posted the one that has a nice ball in it.

And it hit Guyro just like this. Yeah. Now, Grant, I couldn't zoom in close enough because the quality seemed to be, I don't know, potato. Yeah, great. Were those Ravens teammates? Sure. Or is he still not on that team, doesn't like that team?

Well, when's mandatory minicamp? Does that start today? Are they one of the 12 teams that start today? No. It does not look like it. So doesn't like that team. Well, when's mandatory minicamp? Does that start today? Are they one of the 12 teams that start today? No. It does not look like it. So? He's got time. Seems like he's got another couple days down the sun for going back to Baltimore.

Aaron Rodgers, I believe he will be chatting with the press. Yep. I think it's today. I believe so, yes. I believe he'll be meeting with them. I can't wait to hear what those conversations are like. What has he learned about the offense and the team since coming back for at least a day or two? Is he impressed

by the rookies? How about the floor fresh out of the wedding that McVay was at getting married to a lady named Veronica while negotiating a deal with Aaron Donald? Aaron Donald has become the highest paid defensive NFL player in the history of the sport.

Congratulations to Aaron Donald, who was completely at peace with retirement before negotiating a change of his deal, basically. Ian Rappaport reported that the Rams have reworked all-world D-tackle Aaron Donald's three remaining contract years to give him a massive $40 million raise through 2024,

making him the highest-paid non-QB in NFL history at 31 years old. He gets $95 million through 2024. Damn. In negotiating this deal, the Rams opened up. So they didn't add on any years. Allegedly at this point, there might be five voided years at the end of this thing.'s assume this is going to be a seven year 95 million dollar deal with five voided years at the end so they can just pass the deal as on the end if they're not doing

that i'll be interested to see how they work this gimmick but they ended up opening up two million dollars of salary cap space for next year while renegotiating a deal that pays the highest paid defensive nfl player in the history of the game after paying Matthew Stafford and others on that team a wide margin amount of money above every other person in their position group, which goes back to the same old story that we've been talking for a long time. Salary caps for Gays. Yeah, it's not real. And until everybody just understands that and everybody buys in on that, you're going

to continue to see the rich get richer and everybody else try to battle in the way that used to be how you would battle you build through the draft you pick and choose who gets paid people get paid elsewhere you make sure you got it all online you have backups on backup so that next year you can't get caught in any situations instead you got teams just paying everybody somehow saying boom boom boom boom boom here take all our money we don't need the picks you do this you do this we'll put some voided years on the back end that'll take some of the signing bonus hit boom boom boom you're the highest paid guy somehow we saved two million dollars it's a win-win you're not retiring we're getting another one ring me you said last year let's do it again it's amazing what some of these

teams are able to accomplish yeah it feels like the notion that we always hear is just like, hey, guess what? They're going to have to pay the Piper sometime. But they have all their key guys for the next, what, three, four years. There's no proof that you can't just kick the can down the road into eternity. They can just keep reworking all this shit. Will, do you actually have to pay the Piper at some point? I don't know if you do. Everybody's trying to tell us that you do.

And I don't think you do. And everybody that's telling us that you do are the people that aren't doing it because they're living in their fears. That's right. Ain't that right, Don? Aren't they living in their fears over there? We don't live in our fears.

Nobody lives in our fears on this show, but there are people who lives in their fears because they just don't want to pay people. There are two voided years at the end of this for 2025 and 2026 are void. Okay. who lives in their fears because they just don't want to pay people. There are two voided years at the end of this. For 2025 and 2026 are void. And I wonder what those numbers are for that whole thing. Here's Spotrek now.

Is this real? Do we know if this is real? Good question. We trust Spotrek. Oh, yeah. Sport contract. Spotrek. Put them together.

Feels like he's the right person. Three years, $95 million. $46.5 million guaranteed at signing bonus, which, by the way, that is, I think that's going to move. Another $18.5 million next March. Two void years at the end for the cap. It's two years, $65 million in practical terms. Cap hits $24 million next year as opposed to $26. $23, $38 million.

$24, $31 million. And then $25, another $10 million. million last two years do not matter if he's to retire he'll be good and then 26 not on not pictured on the tweet is 20 or is 5 million yeah so it's three extra years on the back end of that thing so it's a five-year deal that's actually a two-year deal yeah because it's not a real extension right because it's being reported just as a contract rework but they actually but it sounds like it is actually yeah yeah it's being reported just as a contract rework. But it sounds like it is actually. It's all for gays. If anybody wants to work the salary cap,

they can absolutely work the salary cap. For instance, if I was running a team and I got a chance to chat with this person that's about to join us and he alluded to the fact that he had any sentiment of juice left, I'd be like, all right, let's move some shit around. Let's get him on the team. Ladies and gentlemen, a man that changed football For almost a decade People were living on the Revis Island

It was one to two year deals One of the greatest businessmen in the history of the NFL This upcoming season he will go into The New York Jets Ring of Honor All pro, Pro Bowl, Super Bowl champion Founder of Revis Island Ladies and gentlemen legendary corner

Darrell Rivas what's up man hey how you doing Pat how you doing guys hey I'm good man I want to let you know the last time you and I were on something at the same time you won a fucking espy you know so I don't know if that's going to happen again for this one this conversation but uh maybe that's the case. We've all been big fans of yours. Western Pennsylvania guy who's gone on to become an absolute goat and a king. We appreciate you taking time, sir. Thank you.

Thank you so much, Pat. And I remember, do you remember that play vividly when you punted the ball to me, man? Well, really. West Virginia pit. Yeah. Backyard ball. Yeah, Yeah. Backyard ball. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Did you guys watch that the next day in film as much as we did? We watched that play maybe 20 times. The next laser pointers on everybody. Revis, why aren't you fucking tackling him? Well, I got blocked there.

Why aren't you standing? You couldn't get back. You beat, I think 13 guys on that play. Darrell, beat, I think, 13 guys on that play, Darrell. I think you beat 13 guys on that play. No, it was amazing. It was definitely amazing. I'm sorry you had to be on the back end and have fun in the ball.

I have to give credit to Dave Wanstead at the time who drew up the play. He wanted to actually do it during the backyard brawl to spark some energy for us and actually the play was supposed to be a throwback to derrick kinder who actually who actually blocked uh both of the guys on your team so uh i couldn't if you remember the play i couldn't really i tried to pump and uh uh kinder was you know he was a legal man downfield so i actually couldn't get the ball there but uh he made a great block two great blocks on the on uh your defenders and uh i just ran down the sideline and do the best i could i was gonna try to run out of bounds but

it was a good play it was a good play didn't you see me coming though that don't scare you i mean i got blocked you know i thought maybe you run out of bounds. I was like 220 at the time. I looked pretty good, I thought. I thought I looked pretty good, you know. You were amazing. And that tackle by Derek Kindred, by the way, illegal, modern rules. Sent two guys potentially to CT City. Just would like to let everybody know that.

We watched it in slow motion the next day, both of them. Rich Rod asking, get up, Ridwan. I believe his name was. I would have if I could have. Well, I think he was knocked out. I think Kendrick killed him, I believe. But you won an ESPY for that, right? Didn't the whole team win an ESPY for that or no?

We were nominated for it. But we actually, I think we came second in the polls. That's a shame. The guy from Boise State, the Statue of Liberty play, the guys won it at Boise State, yeah. And, you know, credit to him. It was a great play drawn up for them as well. And I think he actually proposed to us.

The icing on the cake was he proposed to us. You had no chance. You had no chance. You had no chance. Yeah, I had no chance at all. No chance. What are you up to these days? It feels like, and I might be wrong with this, but once you were done with football,

did you kind of just drift away from the game? Did you feel jaded from the game? Or do you just kind of, is this just kind of what you're into, just kind of chilling and away from it all? You know, for me uh it was really the focus on my mental health you know and uh you know i think uh once you retire there's a lot you have to decompress there's a lot of things i've tried to get into uh holistic wise um to try to cope with uh you know playing for so long and um i think a lot of guys uh right now are really

you know former players and retired players are really focusing on you know, playing for so long. And I think a lot of guys right now are really, you know, former players and retired players are really focusing on, you know, their mental health, whether there's depression, stress. And I mean, I played in a big, you know, I played in a big apple. I played in New York City and Manhattan. It's a lot of pressure. It's a lot of, you know, other things going on. It's a major city. So, you know, for me, I just really just try to step away from the game and and really kind of get back into practical living and kind of collect my thoughts and kind of see what the next chapter is what was it like when you're in the middle of the revas island run

there because everybody's expectation of you is that you are hey if if this guy gets one catch basically in revas island everybody's going to talk about that. And I know it's not just at the time 16 games. That's an all-year thing, I guess, that's just looming over your head? Like the expectation is what drove you, I assume, or is that just naturally how you did your business when you were in the league? Pat, for me, I really, you know, being a super fan of football and, you know, Barry Sanders, the Cowboys, doing their runs, and the 49ers, going to college and then actually having an opportunity to play in the pros,

I was pissed off because as I was coming into the league, there were a lot of talks about, you know, the shutdown corner not existing no more. And I took that I took that personal. I took it to heart. And I remember it was my first Pro Bowl. I was my locker was next to Champ Bailey's. And, you know, I was asking Champ Bailey a bunch of questions like, hey, what do I need to do to be on your level, basically? And, you know, Champ, you know, during that time just really just passed me the torch and said, like, hey, Youngblood, it's your time up. I see the way that you're progressing in the league, and I'm going to pass the torch to you. And at that moment, I just felt like I needed to basically continue to keep the legacy of the shutdown corner alive, you know, at that point.

Because there was in the media, there was a lot of stuff saying, you know, there's no shutdown corners anymore. And then it was actually the league was actually changing at the time, going into a more passing offense type of situation so you know I just felt for me that it was my time up and I needed to to represent all the lake the legacy of shut down corners the Mel Blunts the Deion Sanders the Dow Greens the Rod Woodson's of the world and I just really took it to heart to say hey when it's my time I'm I'm gonna try to shut down anybody that that's that lines up in front of me. Why is it so much different than everything else? Just athletically, you have to be superior.

Intellect, you have to be superior. What is it about the shutdown corner that's different? And why did people assume that that was going to be gone from the game whenever there was more passing getting involved? You know, I really think because it probably gears more to the offensive side of the football in a sense and uh you know offensive coordinators and quarterbacks and receivers can and tight ends also can actually um have a lot of flexibility in the passing game i mean even playing the patriots i mean it was so difficult to actually play chess with them on the chessboard.

Because you have Tom Brady at the helm being the general. But also, we've been in games where they come out an empty set. And they have so many options, man, to throw the ball. And then actually when you start teeing up on that, then they go into a goal line set, and then you got to focus on that. But to really answer your question, it was just really, you know, the corner position is just really just you have to be a student of the game i i mean i have notebooks still to where i have my notes in there where uh i have terrell owens and

i break them down i study them i have uh you know uh randy moss where i still break them down so it's just really being a student of the game and taking time to really break down these guys and break down their tendencies to really uh have that skill of being studious. Also, you just got to be very athletic at the cornerback position. I mean, you got to be able to run fast with these guys. It's some of the best players in the world and at the receiver position. And they're pretty fast, pretty quick, and pretty strong. And they're smart as well. And they're pretty explosive. So, you know, for me, it was just being very studious at my job and really trying to, you know, make sure I was prepared every Sunday. Who is somebody and by the way, thank you for all this insight.

This is fucking awesome. Who is somebody you talk about T.O. and Randy and, you know, you would be a great person, I think, to get like your opinion on this. Who is somebody that you did not? Did anybody keep you up? Anybody give you an anxiety or anything like that? Because I know they felt that way about you. Right. Everybody.

When the Revis Island run was happening, they're like, all right, we got 15 games this year because there's a good chance that the offense coordinator will say, hey, don't even throw it towards Revis. Which means, by the way, you still got to be on every fucking play. That doesn't mean that you get to take plays off because they do. But did anybody keep you up, or was it the other way around, do you think? I think it go both ways. You know, I think it's, you know, I'll say Tom Brady won from the quarterback position. I'll say Tom Brady won from the quarterback position. I'll say from the receiver position, I would probably say Randy, Randy Moss.

I would probably say Terrell Owens as well. Steve Smith. I would definitely say Steve Smith. Who else can I name? I mean, it's a list of guys. And even if I'm not naming all of them, I have the utmost respect for all of them because, you know, the difference between all of them, I call it superhumans.

You know, we're superhero superhumans. We have, you know, if you're playing against Steve Smith, you know, he's not as tall as Randy Moss, which Randy Moss is about six, five and a half. So, you know, when you're dealing with certain guys, certain receivers, they come with, you know, a certain gift. And, you know, Steve Smith was was more so explosive, fast, you know, kind of like a bulldog in a sense where if he got pissed off, man uh he'll he'll blow right past you in the route so uh you know you just got to respect everybody across the board i will always say i will always say also say uh um my fellow uh draftee uh in 2007 uh calvin johnson as well i mean uh tough matchups always had to go go up up against, uh, weekend and week out. And, and, uh, some of those, some of those games I came out where, you know, I'm looking at it as, as like, I just shut

this person. Like, how did I do that? You know what I'm saying? But I actually, you know, the only thing I can give credit to is just, you know, great game plans by the, by the coaching staff. And also, uh, you know, sticking to the game plan and really seeing it through and really executing as best as I could, along with my teammates. And we were able to do some great things. I think we had like the number one defense and also the number three defense, the New York Jets, during the heydays in 2008, 2009 and 10 and 11. during the heydays in 2008, 2009, and 10 and 11. So we just had a great group of guys who came to work every day and was ready to, you know, really focus in of what tasks we had to do. You'll be going into the Jets' ring of honor this season well-deserved. Well-deserved.

And I assume all those wide receivers that got a chance to visit Revis Island also share the same sentiments about you that you just talked about, superhumans and all of those things. Whenever you talked about the defensive coordinator and a great game plan, as an outsider, as somebody who maybe doesn't have the best football IQ whenever it comes to, like, guys that played in the league and shit like that and watched film for a full-time living, I assume the game plans were, all right, 10 of us got shit to do. And then, Revis, you're just doing this was that not what it was was it not just like hey you're taking their guy you got that guy or was there was there more to it that maybe uh a noob would not fully understand uh you know I think when Rex actually, when Rex Bryan was actually hired, you know, we had a meeting. We had individual player meetings.

And I think our meeting, I can say, and this is really going, this is inside, you know, the facility. There we go. You know, Rex sat me down and just, you know, basically just kind of said, like, he believes that I'm the best corner in the NFL at the time. And he's going to help me strive to be that in a sense. And that was basically our kind of meeting in our conversation. He said, you know, I would stick out on the film every time he would watch it during the practice films and stuff. And, you know, I got to give credit to Rex Ryan's defensive scheme to actually, you know, kind of highlight, you know, me as being a cornerback and me being one of the best defensive players. Try to be one of the best defensive players in the league at the time.

And it was great. You know, I just felt like I took on that task. I didn't really want to because I felt we had a lot of pieces on the defensive side of the ball that we can actually, I can just play one side, I can play the left side. And then we had Antonio Camardi as well. That was a great corner at the time. And, you know, just really we just had a great uh CB tandem so uh I didn't I didn't really think that uh I had to really travel but um when

it when it came to nut cutting time and you know we had to win games and we had to make some adjustments and we had to move some chess pieces around and then it kind of isolated me to be on one side or the other and the other 10 guys would would actually uh you know rex it gave rex ryan ability to blitz and do other things in his scheme uh which guys you know i think my teammates really loved at the time because it made it made the game a little bit more fun for us and uh everybody would do their job and we would just we would rock out it sounded like rex Rex Ryan was like the guy who would empower all of his players. It sounds like he did the exact same for you. I got a chance to do some ESPN with him.

The green room talking to him off air was fucking awesome. I mean, I wish I could have played for him, to be honest with you. I think I would have enjoyed the hell out of it. We're talking to Darrell Rivas, founder of Rivas Island, and you talked about being the number one defense there for like five years with the Jets. Do you still, you're going to the Jets Ring of Honor, do you keep in touch with the Jets organization?

How do you feel about where they're at right now and what do you think about the future? Yeah, I think, yeah, I've built so many relationships within the organization. So at this point, I think, you know, I'm an alumni, I'm an ambassador. So I think for me, it's just representing, you know,

the organization is to my best ability, which I've been doing. But yeah, I stay in contact with a bunch of people in the building. And, you know, we don't know what the future entails. I mean, we got a lot of things going on. We spoke about the Ring of Honor. Woody Johnson, we had an interview with Woody Johnson, Mark Sanchez, Nick Mang maybe some of the things, you know, we can talk about in the organization moving forward. If I'm actually going to be a part of that, if not. But my most important thing is, you know, I love the game of football. I'm real passionate about it and I love winning. And that's the biggest thing. I really love winning. And if we can turn some things around in that building, which I have a lot of respect for everyone in the building, from the scouting personnel, from everybody in executive positions as well,

you know, for us to really, you know, make a change. You know, it's time to make a change for the New York Jets in a lot of positions, in a lot of ways. And I think we all believe that, you you know the quarterback position is the most important and um you know right now at the moment we have Zach Wilson and um you know there's very high expectations for him is uh everybody else on the team but you know we just feel that uh you know it's our time to strike and and hopefully you know build a championship team to where we can win our second Super Bowl. Tough division. Hey, tough division.

Hey. Raves. Very tough. That's a tough division. That's a tough. That's a big city. Yeah. Tough division right there.

Hopefully they're able to turn it around. You said you still love football. Are you coaching? Do you keep in contact with any of the DBs that are in the league right now and is the shutdown corner still a thing in the nfl who did you pass the torch to you think you know i i believe uh i believe uh there is still shutdown corners yes i still uh panting to the games and uh when fall comes around and i watch games. I pick and choose what games I watch. But, yeah, I believe there's a long list of guys that are really great. You have Jalen Ramsey right now.

You have Stephen Gilmore. He won the defensive player a few years back playing for the Patriots. I'm real close with – I've been close with Stephen Gilmore even when he was with the Buffalo B been close with, uh, Stephen Gilmore, uh, even when he was with the Buffalo Bills. So, uh, really good guy. Um, you have Howard down here in Miami. Um, there's a lot of guys that, uh, you have Ward, you have, you have, you have Ward and Cleveland Brown. So, uh, I do pay attention. You have, uh, Jair is out Alexander and Green Bay. So I do pay attention. You have Jairz Alexander in Green Bay. There we go.

So you have a lot, it's a lot of good guys out there right now that are really, you know, representing the position very well. And I love to watch them play. I love, I love ball, man. So especially as a DB and when you know, when you're, you're out on the island and you're, you know, it's one-on-one. And those guys know as well as me, man. It's a very tough task. It's a tough job. And they're doing a great job. They're doing a fabulous job of representing the NFL.

They're doing a fabulous job of representing the position as well. So much success to all of those guys. Hey, TV kind of fucks it up, though. Somebody's getting blamed for a bomb that isn't necessarily a DB a db's fault or safety's fault or a coverage's fault is that something that even you now i'm gonna say this and it's gonna cause an argument somewhere but it shouldn't like you are what mount rushmore corner in the history of the nfl i'll say it you don't have to say it okay you do your thing mount rushmore corner in the history of the NFL. When you watch some of the games,

do you have any idea whose fault it is whenever shit happens, or is that something that only inside the team you think would know? Yeah. Yeah, well, if you watch a game and you see the ref go like this here, the touchdown, yeah, you can kind of really, if you look at the replay, you can kind of really see like the mistake or the error or miscommunication at times. And, you know, obviously that's for a DB coach,

that's probably the worst feeling you can have walking off after the field goal. And, you know, you walk to the sideline and the DB coach is like, what happened? You know, and, you know, you got to the sideline and the db coach is like what happened you know and you know you got to have that type of communication of well you know they were in the three by one set and you know the third receiver he did a shake route uh he did an out and up and shake route in the middle of the field and and uh you know maybe the linebacker or safety bid on it and uh he scored a touchdown so yeah you you those are those are the you know that's that's the inner workings of the games but all you can just can try to do is make adjustments but um those are yeah those are the plays where

you know those are nightmares for you where you you think about them or you try to readjust them in the future. When I said you were the Mount Rushmore corner in the history of the NFL, was that uncomfortable, awkward? Do you hate that conversation? Because I feel like, and I'll dive into this. I'll dive into this a little bit. So in the sports day-to-day, sports media world, okay, there's this conversation.

Once you become like unbelievably good and it's recognized that everybody thinks you're really good then all anybody does is pick apart why you're not the greatest so they stop complimenting people once you get really good and it becomes why you're no longer the greatest and somebody else is the greatest your name gets caught up in that conversation all the time on the internet i don't know how tapped in you are about corners in the history of the game. Do you appreciate the fact that you're in that conversation? And is that something you take very personal if people say that you aren't because of how much you gave to the game and how much you were able to accomplish?

You know, sometimes, you know, it's like you're a folklore or it's like a myth because of the dirty work that you had to actually do to be successful. And I mean, at one point, that was our DNA. I mean, everybody on Sunday knew that. And then at the time, fantasy football was actually coming into play. It was just created in a sense. So, you know, I was kind of the, I don't know if you want to say the Darth Vader of fantasy football. That's a great nickname.

Do you have that as a shirt? Darth Vader? No, no, no, no, no. I don't have it as a shirt. Not yet. I might make a shirt and send you one. Yeah, please do. Yeah, that's a great shirt. The Darth Vader of No, no, no, no, no. I don't have it as a shirt. Not yet. I might make a shirt and send you one. Yeah, yeah, please do. Yeah, that's a great shirt.

The Darth Vader of fantasy football. True. Don't worry. Yeah, because, you know, a lot of fantasy football, you know, players would, you know, they would actually sit their receiver down during that week if they had to play against the Jets defense. So, you know, and so um you know and then

you know in off season when you go places you would you would hear it like i had to sit my receiver down and you know when we played you guys or whatever and uh you know at that time i just think you know i i kind of said the folklore thing but um i was in the era where you know it was technology involved and there was a lot of um there was a lot of uh era where, you know, it was technology involved and there was a lot of there was a lot of stats where, you know, you can really focus on DB's past attempts. I mean, past attempts are thrown to him much more. The quarterback ratings at the time, which is still going on to this day. So, I mean, if you're ranking me in a certain way, you know, I was kind of the starting point of all of those kind of stats really showing up and I rest with the other guys as well. And, you know, those things still live on to this day. I know records are made to be broken and such. And I think, you know,

when you sometimes when you retire and you have to play back everything in life and you hear certain things that you have, you were so in tunnel vision, you hear some of the accolades. And, you know, I think there was a there's a fact that I was the greatest season four cornerback of all time in 2009 and stuff. So once you start to hear these things, you have a sense of pride and you're proud of it. But, you know, the ultimate thing for me was to win championships. You know, I won a state championship in high school. Five tuds. And you had five tuds in that thing, didn't you? Yeah, still a record.

So for me, I think the high school program, I come from Aliquippa High School, which has Mike Dicca, which has Ty Law, who has Sean Gilbert. We have a lot of other players. I'm sorry if I'm missing anybody's name. But, yeah, I mean, there's a sense of pride even from my high school to actually, you know, win championships. And I wanted to do it with the New York Jets as well.

I think that's why I believe they drafted me in the first round because, you know, the winning attitude I would bring to the organization. And that's what it was really all about for me is just to win big. And I had an opportunity to win one with Tom Brady in the New York Patriots Super Bowl forty nine. And that was that was a dream come true, you know, for me in a sense of just all the hard work and actually being a rival to him so many times and losing to him so many times yeah yeah we all did pal yes it's so it's so many nightmares i still have some to this day like ah i missed i missed the interception i tipped it or or whatever but it's so hard to pick tom brady off and. And I had so much fun, you know, battling and trying to be two lions

and trying to bring the best out of each other as best we could. So when you talk about the Mount Rushmore stuff, I mean, if people want to put me in that conversation, it's incredible. If people have different opinions, they're entitled to their opinion. That's fine as well. I think my resume speaks for itself in a sense. I'm just really proud for all the experiences and everything I could possibly do when it was my time. You're an absolute legend, dude.

That was an awesome answer, by the way. You do a lot of TV or no? Not really. Not really. Not really. really why you hate them you hate them they talk shit on you yeah yeah yeah that's what that sounds like i think i'm just i'm i don't know i you know like i told you before i'm kind of just decompressing i think now i'm getting i'm getting my my funk back i'm getting my funk back. I'm getting my flow back. And I don't know what the next chapters will be for me. I think there will be a lot of opportunities and options for me.

So I just got to weigh them out and really, you know, I got to look. I just met Sir Charles Barkley the other day in the airport. And we exchanged numbers and everything. And the first question he asked was like, hey, do you play golf? And I'm like, yeah, I suck. We all do. I play a little bit, but I suck.

We all do, man. I'm happy you got your funk back, dude. The sport is better. Okay, we'll be better for it. I love seeing ex-players, because you're not the only one that leaves the game, because most NFL guys, let alone Mount Rushmore guys, most NFL guys, whenever they leave the game, it's the first

time where it wasn't their decision. It's the first time ever that maybe somebody said no more. It's the first time ever you're away from the game and everything. So a lot of guys go through that. I'm fucking pumped you're out of it. Hey, I'm pumped you're out of it dude. This is good news for everybody. You deserve to be celebrated though too

for all your fucking work. Hey, listen, I don't want to say this too much to you. Massive fan. I mean, you ran right fucking by me on the ESPYs and on Thursday Football, but massive fan of your work, man, because the amount of hard work that had to go into that. Everybody just sees the Darth Vader of fantasy football. Everybody just sees, oh, they're not going to throw the ball this way.

But if you're off one of those plays where there isn't a plan, somebody's going to try to get something on Darrell Rivas, quarterback, wide receiver. So you just having to live up to your own hype every single week, the amount of work and stress. I'm happy you're going to be able to be celebrated, pal. Very happy for you, man. The boys have a couple questions for you.

Is that okay? Yeah, sure, sure. Go ahead, Ty. Darrell, you mentioned kind of seeing the game change to a more offensive style during your career, and we see all these receivers come in now and it seems like have 1,000-yard seasons their rookie year. Do you think it's harder for cornerbacks to play now

than it was maybe like 10 years ago? I think it's more challenging, yes, for a secondary to play the position in the sense of, you know, there's always rule changes. You know, the pass interference is even though, you know, I think a little bit on my way out. I was deciding to retire. You know, there was always questions about, you know, the pass interference rules and how can we best play, you know, receivers across the board. So, you know, it's very tough. You know, they're very strict with certain things when it comes to the pass interference rule. But, you know, you're right. I mean, even all of us on here, I think, you know, of us being fans

of the sport, I think, you know, we watch Barry fans of the sport, I think, you know, we watched Barry Sanders carry the ball, you know, 30, 40, 40 times a game. You've seen Jerome Bettis, you know, carry the ball 30, 40 times a game. And the 10 year gap of that, of being now a passing league and, and, and guys, you know, I'll tell you what, every team needs depth in their secondary. I mean, you need six to seven. They're saying, yeah, you need it. in their secondary. I mean, you need – Six to seven, they're saying. Yeah, you need a lot of depth. I remember even playing for the Jets and under Rex Ryan,

and we stacked our secondary. We had at least about 13, 14 guys within our corners and safeties within our DB room because because and some of those guys played their role they played special teams as well but we we we have packages on defense where we might have six or seven dbs actually on the football field so um this would this would give us a lot of ability to be able to blitz from either side of the field. We can disguise a lot of things on defense and just really go from there because we looked at it as, hey, we got guys that can lock down across the board, even our nickelback, even our dimeback. We got guys that can lock up.

We had Jim Leonard, who's obviously the defensive coordinator at the University of Wisconsin. So I hope he becomes the head coach very soon. We had guys like Jim Leonard who knew the defense in and out. We had great guys who just came with their hard hats on, and we were ready to lock up and play hard. And our front seven was really great. We had David Harris. We had some other guys, Calvin Pace. We had Bart Scott as well.

Yeah, once again, you're going to miss some guys, but you love everybody. You've said this before. Yeah. So overall, man, we just looked at our defense and say we need at least about we had about 14 guys in our DB room.

In today's game, you need to stack your DB room. So, and it's, you know, in today's game, you need to stack your DB room because it's a passing league now. I mean, you know, quarterbacks are throwing 60, 70 times a game. The stats are nuts. You see David Carr in Oakland. I mean, he's throwing for four or five yards.

So, I mean, you got to stack your DB room up. Las Vegas, they're going to be pissed youb room up las vegas they're gonna be pissed you said that las vegas they're going through a lot of shit right now you saying they're in oakland will be right at the top of the list uh last question here we can't thank you enough for your time go ahead connor yeah durell you mentioned you still have a lot of friends in the jets building have they reached out to you to kind of mentor sauce gardener at all just because you know they took him at number four overall and he's kind of a he's a bigger corner. But obviously there's no one better to mentor him than you.

Yeah, we spoke. I spoke to Sauce once he got settled. I think it was about a week later after he was drafted fourth overall. So, yeah, we have each other's number. fourth overall. So, yeah, we have each other's number. We just want to continue to, you know, communicate as best we can. There's a lot of other DBs on the Jets, in the Jets secondary, who's reached out as well.

So, you know, for me, it's really just kind of, I think this is a new phase for me. It's a new role for me as well as I'm trying to, you know, figure out maybe my next chapter in life and things that I'm doing. But for the most part, yeah, we have a, you know,

I think the relationship is going to begin. It's going to start and it's going to continue to build on a relationship. You see this? Huh? I'm ready to, you see that? I see. You see this? Huh? I'm ready to...

You see that? I see. Huh? I see you. Yeah? You should see my bail technique, too. I mean, that's the fucking game. That's the game.

How much of your game... How much did you focus on jam? Was that massive on every single piece? Was that the biggest part? Did you train boxing in any of that? Did you do anything for your training that we wouldn't expect? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Pat.

I've done a lot. Over my career, I've done a lot of kickboxing. I think that was probably the main thing was really kickboxing and hand placement, you know, as you're actually jamming, guys. I tried to dabble in a little karate a little bit. I tried to daple in a little, little, little karate a little bit. But for the most part, I think kickboxing was kind of my main priority and my main gig in that sense of just really trying to hand placement. And that was my that was my strength. You know, I think of us trying to reach perfection is I've worked on a lot of off-man coverage as well to where I can disguise in a lot of ways when I'm playing off.

It's probably too late for you to figure it out. It's probably third or fourth quarter, and it's probably too late. The game's probably all over. I probably worn down your receiver so much by playing press coverage that it's too late to even figure out the tail. So, yeah, I think my strong point was playing press coverage, press man coverage, and really just getting in the receiver's face and really just challenging him all the way throughout the game.

Did you talk at all, or were you super quiet on Ravis Island out there? I never really talked trash because you know why? I felt that it was too much energy to waste. It was too much at the time. If someone started to jar with me or talk trash to me, then I would speak up and say whatever I had to say but for the most part I kind of just really I kind of just really focused on um you know my technique and and really I mean these guys are really they're not easy to they're

not easy to cover I mean they're really not I gotta give them a lot of credit I mean, they're really not. I got to give them a lot of credit. I mean, we're backpedaling backwards sometimes, and they're running full speed at you. 16, 17, 18 miles an hour. You're backpedaling. Isn't that just hysterical? And then, by the way, they can break off at any point. Are your feet fucked? Not really. Anything?

Anything in the body? Well, you know, my lower body malfunctions all the time, I tell you that. It doesn't operate how it's supposed to. You know, you get Charlie horses and you get things like that every once in a while. But, yeah, you deal with that on a day-to-day sometimes. So, yeah. Well, thank you for your contribution to the game. Thank you for coming on here.

Can't wait to see more of you hopefully around. And you're the best, man. Enjoy your Tuesday. Thank you so much, guys. Appreciate it. Ladies and gentlemen, the founder of Revis Island, Darrell Revis. Thank you, buddy. Yeah!

We have a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup champion, a private plane survivor, ladies and gentlemen, COVID survivor, A.J. Ha. A.J. Rivas, absolute dog on the field. I actually got to see a little bit of that interview. Yeah, what an interesting dude, too. I don't know him personally, but yeah, I have a ton of respect for him. Yeah, he ran right by me and my teammates. I think he did that to a lot of people.

He's very good. He had five touchdowns in his high school state championship right down there at Heinz Field. Yeah. Five of them. I'd say that's a good day to choose to score five touchdowns. I don't think it was abnormal. That was probably happening on a regular basis.

Just a great athlete. Joining us, the complete opposite of that, a man who is an insider about the athletes. AJ, your haircut looks even better today. That's so rude. It's so rude. Golfer, senior NFL insider for the league and NFL.com. Ladies and

gentlemen, host of a weekly wrap-up with Rap Sheet and friends. Us being the friends, he being Rap Sheet. Rap Report. Kind of got some ricochet shots in a burial there, but the sentence sounded great. Sorry, nothing you could do about it. You do not look that athletic. I might be wrong, though.

You'd be wrong. I got great hands, nice soft hands, good for chipping, good for catching a baseball and throwing. AJ and I were about to ask. AJ and I were about to ask. I literally saw it coming. Can you throw a ball and catch a ball? Can you throw a ball and catch a ball? Can you throw a football and catch a football?

I certainly can. I played three sports in high school. Thank you very much. What's three? Tried to play baseball at Columbia. Was not good enough. Ended up as a lightweight rower for four years. It was also not very good, but I did play.

That's my resume. It's a sport you can't. Can you throw and also not very good, but I did play. That's my resume. Can you throw and catch? Oh, I can throw and catch. I got some game. Okay. All right. Hey, listen, athlete Ian Rappaport. I can't kick a lot of things, though. Well, everybody sucks at kicking, and then everybody

says kicking's so easy. It's like, ah. Okay. Well, if it's so easy, then why do you suck at it? You can throw one. You can't kick it. Very fair. Nonetheless, let's move on. Ian, this Aaron Donald deal, was it negotiated at Sean McVay's wedding? And what are the actual numbers for this?

And tell us why the salary cap should be thought about at all with any decision that's made in the NFL at this point. All right. Let's start out with the when this deal was done. at this point. All right, let's start out with the when this deal was done. Because I thought that, you know, we were talking about me maybe coming on yesterday around 2.30 Eastern time. I was very happy about that because I thought that he was going to come in and sign around like 2.45 so we'd get it mid-show.

And then it ended up being like 4.30 because he wanted to catch a workout. He would have dropped off anyways. But anyway. I got to go. Yeah, I would have dropped off. Sorry, I got to put a tweet out. No, then I would have a workout. He would have dropped off anyways. But anyway. I got to go. Yeah, I would have dropped off. Sorry, I got to put a tweet out. No, then I would have come back. Then I would have come back.

Well, he might have done it. No, I think this was basically mostly done probably by Thursday or Friday. There were some things they were trying to figure out the last year, like what happens if he retires? How do you deal with the salary cap? How can you make it make sense for the Rams in the last year? So it wasn't totally done. But I would say by Thursday or Friday, I probably had a good sense this was happening.

So when knowing that and they go to the wedding, all I can think about, just selfishly of course, is I hope it doesn't get out at the wedding because then I wouldn't get to break it. And that would be very sad. What a scumbag. But, you know, it didn't, so that was the win there. And then as far as the salary cap goes... It's fake! Say it! It's not fake. It's fake! But what it seems like the Rams

have done is they keep pushing it into the future. And it's... Eventually they're going to have to pay. Is it? eventually they're going to have to pay. Is it? Will they? Will they? We don't know.

Tell us. Show me a blueprint of when it happened. Thank you. Everyone keeps telling me the same thing about the Saints, too. Now, I will say this about the Rams. To do what the Rams have done, which is to pay top dollar for your very, very best players, which is Matthew Stafford, which is Aaron Donald, Cooper Cup probably going to get a huge extension. Joe Noteboom's making $12 million.

You have to hit on rookies and late-round draft picks, and they have crushed it. So they make it work by drafting late-round players fantastically. Not all teams do that. That's how they win. Ian, was there ever a doubt that Aaron Donald would retire and the Rams wouldn't come to the table and give him what he wanted? Yes. Yes. And I feel like there was some yesterday, some thought yesterday of people being

like, well, he was never going to retire. Like there were definitely moments covering this like pretty closely. I thought he was going to retire. There were definitely moments because he is a different dude. And like we've said before, like he has literally accomplished everything. So at 31, if he were to say, I'm good, you know,

like he wanted to be paid top dollar, wanted a raise. If the Rams weren't going to do it, like I think he would have been okay retiring. And I think that was real. I didn't come to that, but I do think that was real. That's awesome.

That's great leverage to have. Hey, I'm really comfortable. People call me the greatest football player on earth. Cool. I'm a Super Bowl champion. Cool. I got a lot of money. Cool.

I believe he's married to an agent or something like that. I think they are going to continue to have great success off the field. Cool. I'm good. You want me to come continue to fight against two to three men every single Sunday for you? I'm going to need top dollar. And they were able to make it work. Why was he potentially going to retire?

Because they didn't think they were going to be able to work it into the fake salary cap? Go on. No, because I think it took a while. This contract was really unprecedented. Like we'll talk about like new money and extensions based on how many dollars are in the future and what's guaranteed. This was no New Year's. So you literally cannot calculate the New Year's.

It was though. Didn't they just put voided years on the end? Yeah, those are fake. Those don't count. Those are just salary caps. Just like the salary cap. What are they? Go ahead. Say what the end? Yeah, those are fake. Those don't count. Those are just salary caps. Just like the salary cap. What are they? Go ahead.

Say what you just said. Say they're fake. They're fake years for the salary cap. They count against the cap, but they're not actual money years. No. It's like, remember when Taysom Hill got that huge contract and everybody lost their mind? Yes, we do. Four years, $160 million or something like that.

Yeah. Those were voidable fake years. By the way, that was back when you were reporting those numbers as the actual numbers. You remember that? No. Yeah, and then the Aaron Rodgers deal came. It was like, no, no, here's the actual deal. This is what we're actually talking about. This one is easy to figure out because there are no

new years. It is just a raise. It's... He had five years left? Aaron Donald had five years left on his deal? He had three years left. It's a three-year deal. But there's three years of voided money on the back end with a two-year deal of guarantees.

There's two years of voided money on the back end, which don't count. So basically what this deal is, it's two years for 65. God, what a great tweet that is. Two years. A lot of words. A lot of words. A lot of words.

You're allowed to hit enter on that and start a new paragraph. Yeah, you and Pellicero both. Big on the paragraph breaks. Oh, yeah. Well, that's just word solid. Look at that thing. You think so? Huh?

It is a lot of words. Now, I would say. Todd France got his love, by the way. Oh, yeah. Todd France in there. You know what I mean? Shout out. Hey, shout out, Todd France.

En france to Todd. Absolutely getting the you know what I mean? Shout out. Hey, shout out, Todd France. On from the stage to Todd. Absolutely getting the deals done. But it's all fake. Ian, we know it. You know it. Anyways, Ty, your question for Ian. Yeah, Rap Sheet, I don't know. Who refuses to say the truth?

It's all fake. You know it. We know it. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, it's all fake, guys. Rap Sheet, I don't know if you have any more information than we do with this, but the Deshaun Watson situation, is that still kind of just book closed on it, or now that there are new accusations, does that kind of just unwrap this whole thing again?

I don't think it's book closed. The way the NFL was viewing it was their investigation was coming to a close. Usually Deshaun Watson is the last, usually the subject is the last person to get interviewed. So that happened, it was either two or three weeks ago in Houston for several days. The NFL then, you know, obviously we have the two new lawsuits, 23 and 24. The NFL has remained in contact with him because what they do is they basically cross-check the information they have. But the investigation wasn't closed. So, I mean, the NFL has looked into every lawsuit. They've looked into every allegation. They have talked

to Deshaun Watson about every allegation and every question they have for him. So that is continuing now. So I don't believe it's over and I don't believe any decision has been made. But like, this is why there's no rush to do anything until you really have to in case something like this comes out and is new, is important. Open your eyes to something in case you have to discuss it. Voided contract potential here from the Cleveland Browns and Deshaun Watson with his 24th allegation, I guess, would be described. I have not heard any discussion of a voided contract at all.

I have not heard that as part of the discussion. Connor, go ahead, pal. Yeah, rap sheet. Deebo Samuels reporting to Minicam. So can you confirm that for six weeks we talked about a story that was absolutely nothing? And when do you think we can expect a deal to get done between the Niners and him? I think the best case for the 49ers is that we all wasted a lot of time. But let me just add, for those people who may be listening to me right now

who do operate a daily internet and radio show, Deebo Samuel was a pretty good dude for about six weeks. Deebo Samuel was great for conversation fodder, but did Tory Dondi ever think a deal was going to get done here, or is this just a timing thing? I'd still like to see what ends up happening here, right? Like they've been very clear about not wanting to trade him. And I believe that because rarely would you have a GM say, I would be dumb to trade him. I'm not trading him. And then actually do it,

right? You have people talk around things, but that was pretty clear. The 49ers have done a couple of things. I know they've been talking to him the last couple of days, trying to get him to come in. So he comes into minicamp. He does not get fined $100,000, which is good because people don't like to get fined. Is there voids that come with the missing of the mandatory minicamp or just the $95,000 in fines? I saw that. I believe due to failure to practice clause, the guaranteed money would be voided too. Yeah, so everybody keeps saying it's $95,000, but it's much more than that, right? I mean, it's much, much more than that for most contracts.

Right, but for him, they're not going to cut him, so it doesn't matter. But yes, it does. For a lot of people, it would change some things. So what the 49ers, I think, have done is try to say to him, we are not going to use you as a running back. They drafted a running back in the third round. They have a couple of good players, running backs coming back from last year. I think they'd like to use them on the gadget plays, but not give it to them between the tackles 15 times. That is something that actually speaks

maybe louder than a new contract. So what exactly does he want more? Does he want to be paid as a receiver, or does he want less carries and not to play a running back? Both. He wants to be paid as a receiver, and he doesn't, you know, because, like, this contract is great, but he doesn't want it to be his only contract. I mean, we see what happens to running backs. Like, they get beat up.

Beat up. And he doesn't. It's actually, like, really forward-thinking and smart. Like, it really is. I agree. I concur completely. But if they would pay for him to be a top wide receiver and then sprinkle a little running back juice on there as well,

I think all would be made well. Do you see a deal getting done here or no? I think it is. That's a no. Yep. They got a lot of work to do to get a deal. I think it is possible. But it's not one of those routes that,

it's going to get done, just wait two or three. It's a really, really hard one. Who's in that world? Tyler? I think, yeah. I mean, quarterback contracts generally get done, and they've been very clear about it, including on your show, I believe, right? Yes, sir. So that is one, I think.

And there's, you know, a couple other really good players that, like we talked about it, like Cooper Cupp probably eventually gets a deal. Metcalf. You know, there's a couple other really good ones. Quentin Nelson. Quentin Nelson. D.K. Metcalf. Terry McLaurin.

Terry McLaurin. Terry McLaurin's talking. Jimmy G. Jimmy G. Jimmy G. Who knows? Whoa. He was excused from the mandatory minicamp.

Is that because they're done with him? Is that it? No, it's just me. We don't want anybody to even think that this isn't Trey Lance's team. Is that what it is? No, I think it's just that there's a couple reasons. One, I don't know how much he was going to do anyway. He's still rehabbing from the shoulders. Oh the shoulders so like oh okay yeah because if they don't have doctors and trainers

and physical therapists at the niners which it sounds like they don't him getting his rehab for his shoulder elsewhere probably the right move anyways right well he i think he went his own route on the uh on the rehab and I think he's seen his own people. But to have him stand out there and then everyone ask him questions, it's a weird situation. I know they'd still like to trade him. I know he'd still probably, I imagine, would like to be a starting quarterback somewhere

and not have to fight for his job. It's just better to stay away until they figure this thing out. Trey Lance is the guy, right? 100% now this is a clear sign of that? I might be crazy. I might be crazy, but I still think there is a chance. Let's say Garoppolo gets cleared not in mid, you know, not in like two weeks, but in early August.

What if he comes to camp and is the better quarterback in training camp? They have to start. So I just, I'm still keeping this open because if they can't trade him, he did lead them to the playoffs last year, right? NFC Championship, Super Bowl. I mean, that motherfucker's been there. So there's

no crime in having a developing, really talented quarterback just wait a little bit longer. But Manfred Minicamp, you would think you would have the person back in the room. I mean, it's just – It's not just – he's going to just stand there anyway. Also, Manfred Minicamp means nothing. Okay, so don't report about people missing any of this stuff then, please.

Well, you got to understand, we got nothing to do in – Oh, there it is. Of course, here we go. Journalism, go ahead, Tom. Not so much a question, but more of a request. We have an idea in this offense that Broncos country, let's ride, was probably a team three and a Russ baby. Creation.

Creation. Creation. Can you find out if that was a Russ creation or a Broncos creation for us? I will definitely find out. I've actually wondered the same. I've been I have a lot of questions. Hey, you're an asshole just like us. That's what it sounds like. That's what it means.

No, I meant it in a nice way. So did we. Yeah. But just us even thinking that like, oh, did Russ create that or did the Broncos create that? We're assholes immediately. Does he have any contacts inside Team 3? I have contacts in multiple places. Wow.

I can figure this out. He's penetrated. I was on the same page with you guys, though, when it came to the social media post. They do such a good job in Denver, and I was like, oh, no, no, no, no. Oh yeah, they won a Webby. That matters. I forgot about that. That's right. They do. They do great work over there. And a lot of the social media teams do great work. But also, let's look out for the players.

Let's try not to make the players look terrible. How about the NFL? The actual NFL social media. At the rookie NFL thing that these guys are forced to go to, probably don't get paid at all, but they're doing whatever they can for the NFL. And then somebody says, hey, I'm with the NFL's Instagram here. I'm going to take a photo of you.

And then they do a video instead, and then they put on top of it, I just wanted to see how long they'd stand there. Fucking forever. You're the NFL. That's what they would do. You know, maybe you can kind of run that up the totem pole as well. That'd be great. I'll talk to my people.

That seems like a funny internet gag. No. Yeah, of course. Everybody but the players. What about the players, though? I'll tell them to be funnier, if that helps. No, no, they're great. Everybody does great work.

But there are definitely misses where it seems like they're just saying, oh, fuck the players. We're just making a piece of content. The players are the content. Let's remember that, okay? You don't have to bury people to have good content. I believe that is something we have proved, except for when this guy comes on and fucking lies to us.

Me? Or are you talking to someone to your left? Well, actually, these guys... Sorry about it. Anyways, you're the best, man. We appreciate the hell out of you. Great seeing you again. Great seeing you. I'm going to get back to work today. That's the rest. We see that putter right behind you, just waiting to knock in some... Great seeing you again. Great seeing you. I'm going to get back to work today. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. We see that putter right behind you just waiting to knock in some. I've actually been practicing putting a lot and it has helped literally zero. Yeah. I'm learning that as well. Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rappaport. Thank you.

Thank you, Rappaport. And we're going right into Albert Breer of Sports Illustrated now. So, like, this is a real show. This is a real show we're doing. Try to get out there. I love talking to Ian because he tries not to give away what he knows in some of his answers, but he can't help himself. You know what I mean, AJ? Yeah, and he obviously feels very good about breaking news via Twitter,

so he wants to make sure he doesn't break anything on here. By the way, make sure you follow him at Rap Sheet Comedy. Yeah. Yes. And him saying that about Jimmy G makes me think like, oh, okay, so the Niners aren't completely sold on Trey Lance if that's what they're thinking still? He's wrong.

He would be at the mandatory minicamp if there was any thought of him playing for them this year. Joining us now, the author of the Monday Morning Quarterback, a sports illustrator, an absolute stud, formerly of the Boston Globe. Did not know that. Ladies and gentlemen, Albert Breer. Hey, guys, what's up?

Are you a asshole? I didn't know that. I am. Yeah. Yeah, I am. I am. I'm also a Buckeye. AJ knows that.

I got a member of his recruiting class on my wall behind me, actually. Who's that? It's Moe Claret. Oh, I love Maurice Claret. Freshman year right there for him. National title, right? Yeah. Congrats.

He recognized that picture. Congrats to you guys. Good job, AJ. Anyways, you're a Masshole and an Ohioan. I couldn't even fathom what this conversation is going to look like. This might be the most toxic thing of all time. I can't wait to dive into it. Albert, we were just chatting there with Ian,

and Ian comes on our show a lot. We're very thankful for it. He's an insider. That's his job. Boom. He's trying to get news, trying to break news. He's got two phones. He never stops. He likes Pez dispensers and Harry Potter, but most importantly, he likes a good scoop. That's what Ian Rappaport's into.

For you, are you doing the same game? You just wait an entire week for that Monday morning quarterback? How does your whole thing go? It a little different i mean i would say it's a little bit more um you know like i would say depth like with what i do um like so for example like the russell wilson trade um ian's like fighting like hell to get the scoop there and to be the first one to put it out that he's going to the broncos. I am like basically working the whole time on background to make sure I can tell everybody exactly how it happened. Okay.

And I have to be ready for it to happen ahead of time. That's where me and Ian's jobs are alike. I have to be ready for it to happen ahead of time so I can sound informed when I'm talking about it before it happens. So I'd say like our jobs are, I mean, Ian used to work together too so uh you hate him you hate ian you hate him uh the short guy how can you hate the short guy

oh my god okay everybody seems like ian i didn't know he was that short though noticeably short huh oh yeah like you guys didn't know this oh this? They treat him a little differently on NFL Network than they do others. They do. Oh, yeah, he's sitting in a chair. One of the times when he and I did TV together, this isn't even a lie, he had to stand on a box. Oh! I'm not kidding.

That's just because you're so tall, Albert. Ian's our guy. I'm average height. I'm not that tall. Oh, even more. That's Massel, Ohio. And, AJ, your question? Albert, what are you working on right now to explain to us what may happen,

like the next big breaking story? Do you know what's going on with Baker? Do you know what's going on possibly with Deshaun Watson? Like what's happening out there? Yeah, I mean, I think the Deshaun thing sort of, like it's dominating a lot of the conversation, I would say, that I'm having. And I think no one really knows what the number of games is going to be. And I think what happened over the course of the last week that's interesting, like the 24th case, the 24th case wasn't as expected, I think, as the 23rd.

wasn't as expected, I think, as the 23rd. And I think that there's an important nuance in the way these things have happened in that I think there was an expectation from the league, from the Browns, that the 23rd lawsuit could come. I think this latest one is at least a little bit of a surprise to the league. I'm not sure that Deshaun told the Browns. And I think there's going to be some questions about how upfront Deshaun was the Browns and I think there's going to be some questions about you know how up front Deshaun was and I don't know whether he was completely up front or he hit up hit you know hid the fact that this incident happened at all but I think that that's a pretty big thing and then I mean I think Kyler's contract Lamar's contract those are big ones to follow I don't think Russell Wilson gets done until next year.

And then I think, of course, like Deebo Samuel, Nick Bosa, like some of the things going on in San Francisco, and of course with Baker too. The quarterback trade market should be interesting, I'd say, once we get past the offseason program. So are you just on the phones all day? And are people giving you thoughts on other situations from what they've heard or how do you and how do you get these relationships with people to be like yeah albert breer was going to be the guy that we get into because that's all this game is right i

mean the relationship game is the game right at this point yeah i would say like i build the relationships the same way i build my personal relationships. And I mean, that means, you know, being in Indianapolis up till four in the morning sometimes means traveling around camp to camp. Like in the summer, it means being at owners meetings. It just means you're building relationships the same way you would build relationships and having running conversations with people the same way you would have running conversations with people in your personal life. And I like I'll put it this way to you. Like I said this to a couple of college kids yesterday. If you go to somebody you haven't talked to in two years and ask them for something, even if you know them, they're probably not going to give you

anything. Right. They're probably going to be like, why is this guy hitting me up now? But if you've had a running conversation with somebody or you've already established that relationship, then they're more willing, they're going to be more willing to help you in those sorts of situations. So that's the way I've always done it. Like I build the relationships the same way I would build relationships in my personal life.

And a lot of times, I mean, hey, who are the guys you trust most from high school and college? They're the guys who saw you face down in a ditch, right? So sometimes that sort of thing can play into it, too. Respect. Okay. Hey, I've seen, you know, you know what we know. Kendall Roy.

That's right. L to the OG. Has seen Kendall. I got into succession, Albert. I know you don't have enough time covering the NFL. Oh, what a show. So many references. The guy I went to high school with is one of the stars of succession, Jeremy Strong. That's Kendall.

That's Kendall, yeah. You went to high school with that guy? He's a masked guy? Yep. Him and Chris Evans. Him and Captain America. What high school did you go to? So, yeah, Jeremy's a year older than me,

and Chris Evans is a year younger than me. Hey, they're saying the same thing, by the way, that you're saying right now. They're saying, hey, Albert Breer. I wish. I'll trade paychecks with them. Hey, what's the high school? Lincoln-Sudbury, outside of Boston. It's a public high school, too.

It's not a private high school. Oh, respect, because who was on here that had cookies at 9-8? That would be Vanderfield Yates. Vanderfield Yates. He was up in there. That was an interesting. About one hill. I mean, it made sense, but it was certainly a,

I didn't know people actually were doing that. We were fighting for Mexican pizzas on Wednesdays. Hell yeah. 50 cents extra stuff on it. Absolutely, dude. So, Peter King, did i get this right peter king left monday morning quarterback handed it to you you were chosen by him by sports illustrated and then now he's your number one competition you two are basically doing the same thing every single week now you're both so talented

so i think every you probably share the demo i would assume the demo is the exact same reading both i'm on harrison shore you probably have some uh breer maniacs and he's probably got some pk fanatics fanatics people or whatever that are going there but we both we all read both of them do you two communicate with each other how's the friendship with you guys and how did that whole transition go i don't know well wait a minute i don't know if it's like this for you guys but i like think like the people who hate you follow you closer than the people who like you that's the way it is for you guys too right yeah a lot a lot yeah i mean that's the only reason why this thing has this guy yeah they're all over like the people who hate me like seem to know everything

that i've ever said or written or anything else yeah peter um so peter actually hired me um peter was the one who recruited me from n Network in 16 and wound up hiring me. And he and I had talked about the idea of like his contract being up in two years and what he handed off to me. And it wasn't like promised at the time, but it was sort of understood that if I did a good job that I'd be in position for that. And, you know, what I didn't know is that I would be in direct competition with him, which has been interesting. But I'm great friends with Peter. He's been awesome to me, and he's been awesome to so many young people in our business. And I would say, like, I am so much better for, like, having to compete with him every week.

Like, I have to be on my toes every single week because I know he's going to have something good. And, like, it's like anything else. Like, competition always makes you better. Hey, what venue do you get the most information? Like Combine, Pro Days, Senior Bowl? Where do you think you can get the most work done in your field of work? I would say Combine's good because Combine, you just have more casual conversations with people. And, you know, like so much business gets done there. Like, I don't know people.

I mean, I'm sure you guys know this, but I don't know how much the general public knows that such a small percentage of like what's happening at the Combine is actually like guys running 40s and doing the vertical jump and all that different stuff. Like, there's a ton of stuff to set up the NFL offseason that goes on there. And it's also the place where you're going to have off-record conversations with people that will help you sort of understand the way things are going to go in the weeks to come. So Combine is good just because it's the one event where everybody is in one place.

Like owners' meetings, it's like even the big owners' meeting, that's only head coaches and general managers. The Combine is the one where every assistant coach is there, every scout's there, and you're going to have conversations with these guys at 10 in the morning. You're going to have conversations with these guys at one in the morning. And so like, you're able to kind of,

I guess like sort of build an understanding for where the league is going. And that's also like where you build your relationships. So when you're texting with somebody two weeks later, they know who you are. You know what I mean? It takes years and years and years to get people to trust you, and the Combine is one of the places where that trust is built. Well, we're happy it happens in this city.

Oh, yeah. Hey, shout out Indianapolis. Hey, keep it in Indy. I'm all for it. I'm 100% behind you guys on that. Screw Dallas. Screw LA. Keep it in Indianapolis. Hell, yeah oh yeah hey say it louder for the people yeah why don't you write that la screw dallas keep it in okay well

i just need you to get to the uh yeah monday morning don't forget to remind folks every monday if you have to maybe second monday of each month you do what you're gonna do and remind i heard andy's stepping up too they're gonna're going to close South Street for the combine. Yeah, we heard that. We looked at that. South Street's not the right one. I think Georgia Street's the right street to shut down. So, wait.

Which one's the street that they had the – was it like where you could do like the – whatever that thing is where you fly – The zip line? The zip line. They had the giant zip line during Super Bowl week. What street was that? So, there was a bunch. It was like Illinois, Georgia, and South. Everything The giant zip line during Super Bowl week. What street was that? So there was a bunch.

It was like Illinois, Georgia, and South. Everything was shut down for the Super Bowl. Basically, that entire block was shut down that everybody walks from. But Georgia Street's the one that has that incredible statue of the guy, of the legs. That's right, John Wood. Of the legs. And then it goes right to the convention center,

and there's bars on there. Like, that's the one I think that is. But South Street, they're going to make awesome. Hey that's the one I think that is, but South street, they're going to make awesome. Hey, they'll make it awesome. It'll be great. They want fans to go to that thing.

Is that what they're looking for you? That's what they're looking to do. Yeah. I mean like the whole thing is about getting better fan engagement and turning it into more of an event, which is like everything, you know, it's like the same thing as the draft.

That's the idea is to make it more of a fan event. And that's why they've been fighting to put more fans in the stands because they want people to travel in from other places. The other way you get people to travel in from other places is to put more events around the actual event. How are you going to have those conversations, though? I'm sorry to cut you off. If these fans start coming out to these steakhouses where all this work gets done,

these coaches and GMs might not feel as comfortable. That's why I get so pissed off, AJ. That's why I get so pissed off when people write about where these things are happening because when people write about these things that are happening, right? It's like, oh, I saw so-and-so and so-and-so and so-and-so at Steakhouse X. Then those guys are going to stop going there. You know what I mean?

Yeah. Schrag's at a meeting at 7.05 p.m with the gm at tony's brand new steak place down here he told us that on the air and then he did follow up with a text like shouldn't have said exactly where i was probably not i guess there's people that are showing up out here it's like yeah it's just i mean that's the key do not say where these people are going because they will stop going there if you make it public especially if you've got every Tom, Dick, and Harry from across the Midwest driving into you. Love. I haven't heard that in a long time.

Go ahead, Todd. Albert, you mentioned your relationship with Peter King. Do you ever, like, do you have to communicate with him about what you guys are writing about, especially if you worked under him? I'm assuming you have similar sources or some people that you are mutual acquaintances. Like, do you ever worry about, like, oh, shit, we're going to end up writing the same stuff on Monday same stuff on monday no because i mean like we're sort of in direct competition with each other and there's going to be times when it's like inevitable that that's going to happen you know like when when something big happens in the league whether it's a trade or you know i even like during the season like you know something wild happens in a game at four o'clock like like i know it's my job

to do it better than he's doing it that day that's all you know and and we like we'll talk on the back end you know about stuff because i like i have a full understanding now of like how hard it is to to do what he's done and i'm still astounded that he's still doing it into his 60s like the ability to stay up all night on Sunday nights during the season and have the stamina to do that like like for 25 years is freaking incredible so we don't like it's not like we plan anything out but like on the back end like if he has something good I'll I'll shoot him a text and say good job on this and you know same same same thing if I if I do something that that he likes so I would say it's like more just, you know, acknowledging when somebody else did a good job on the back end,

which, like, I think it's a healthy competition because, you know, I want to rip his face off when we're in it, and he wants to rip my face off when we're in it. But we've been able to maintain a good relationship, you know, regardless of all that. Well, trying to rip his face off and you read it and you say hey pk still got the fastball that sounds weird saying hearing that from a reporter too doesn't it probably yeah because you guys are doing this i'm not actually ripping anybody's face off we know yeah this is a problem with society today though a lot of people saying stuff and then it not being the same as what they meant you know what i mean yeah hopefully i don't

get canceled for that comment no pk might show up and try to rip your actual face off. What are you going to do? You're just going to sit there and have to take it. He's got old man strength. So you're up all night on Sunday. You're not sleeping. That's a terrible night for you. Like, is it in the off season?

When do you have that thing done? No, during the season. No, I mean, the off season, it's not like that. But during the season, that's sort of inevitable because like that column, like it's eight, nine, ten thousand words. And I really go into Sunday with without a lot of it done because all anybody wants to hear about on Monday morning is what's happened in the games. And so I've got to sort of adjust as I go and lean on my connections as I go. And so, you know, you get out of the one o'clock games and you think this is the big story. And it's like, OK, I'll start working on this. And then something crazier happens at four o'clock or something really wild happens the 1 o'clock games and you think this is the big story. And it's like, okay, I'll start working on this.

And then something crazier happens at 4 o'clock or something really wild happens at 8 o'clock. And you got to adjust. And so that's why pretty much every week you wind up staying up until 4 or 5 in the morning. And that's challenging, especially when you've got young kids. But I've sort of like taught myself like to go on like two or three hours sleep on monday and then catch up just kind of get myself through the day get myself through the monday night game and then when i wake up tuesday morning i'm sort of reset all the way back i think i learned on home improvement you can't make up for sleep loss the

day before nope you can't make it there's no such thing as makeup you might be more tired but he ain't going back to a hundo even though your whoops says no you aren't um i mean i go like i'll try you try like i'll go for a run to try to like get the blood flowing but nothing really i mean that'll even that might work for like an hour and then you sit down and it's like oh i'm still you know dog ass tired yeah eight to,000 words you said. How many scrolls is that? Who's reading that too? Too many scrolls.

Well, you know what I try to do though? I know not as many people are reading the whole thing. Okay. So you do know – do you know that though that people are taking – No, I know that. Yeah. And like I try to give everybody something. Like so – especially during the season, I'm trying to hit every game.

I'm trying to have something on every game in there that's unique and different and like and i know like and we know this from the numbers and this goes back to when peter was there and they studied the analytics on on on how his column was consumed like a lot of the times it's like people scroll down they just want the notes you know if it's not if the lead isn't about their team um but the idea is to kind of like give an overarching view of the league and like a 30,000 foot view of the league whether it's in season or out of season and so yeah you're a national local writer huh you're a national local writer you have to write about every fucking team in a local fashion a little bit yeah like you gotta just understand

what people care about too i say that's the biggest thing like i'm trying to like so like this week i did car like so sometimes like the stuff gets served up to you and it's like all right this is the biggest story of the week like i mentioned the the rustle wilson trade like that was obvious like that week that's what that was going to be coming out of the draft like i picked the eagles as i thought the most interesting team i led with the eagles there are other weeks where you just got to kind of like think of something like what's going to interest everybody so like this week i did carson wentz like so that was like sort of more i think this is sort of an interesting story because this is a guy who was a high draft pick as three fan bases that would have interest in this and it's a quarterback you know so you sort of have to i guess with the big big

parts of it like be like what's the most what's the highest percentage of people going to care about and then after that yeah you have to kind of have an idea of what like each fan base might want to read about and you want to try to engage every one of them at least every few weeks because you don't want to like like i don't want to like lose jacksonville you know what i mean because i didn't say something about them four weeks in a row so that's sort of the way that you look or try to look yeah they they were dressing up like clowns going to the games now they beat that quarterback that you're talking about and they knock the colts out of the playoffs sounds like ron and vera loves carson wentz follow up thank you for putting us in that you know our, our Let's Ride video was in there.

That's why I really – That was fantastic, by the way. Thank you. We appreciate that. That's what we do over here, art. You know what I mean? We do real art over here. I think I put you guys in there a few times.

I always check the feed when I'm doing that, like the rest of the internet section. Well, we appreciate that, man. Thank you so much. Go ahead, AJ. What's like your go-to or your fallback team or group of players you can write about if you don't have anything? Cowboys?

Hey, this is always going to be good. The Cowboys, yeah. Like the Cowboys, I would say definitely. They're the ones that move the needle. Is that all because of Jerry? Why is that? Everybody bitches about it, right? Like everybody bitches about it.

Like why are you hammering the Cowboys? And then you know what happens? They turn on the TV. They click on the story. They click on the thing on social media that says Cowboys on it. Like, it is. Humans are the worst. It's true.

It's true. We do it. I mean, we do it. We were actually told, hey, you talk. You don't. Talk Cowboys. Do this. That's what we were told by somebody one time.

It was like, well, we're not going to do that. And then when you talk about cowboys, you look at the numbers. It's like, well, there's a reason. There is a form. The cowboys do numbers. And it's not – well, we go back to the beginning. You said the people that hate you the most seem to watch the most stuff. It feels like that is the cowboys almost MO at this point.

Yeah, like they're clicking on the story so they can bitch in the back end about you having done the story. You know what I mean? You read the comments? Oh, I haven't read comments. Now, on Twitter, it's hard to avoid it. So I will admit this. Sometimes I'll scroll through the comments on Twitter.

Off a story? Like, I don't think I've read the comments in like 15 years. Like, I stopped doing that a long time ago. Smart, you're a veteran in the game. PK gave you the game. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, a lot of people I've read the comments in, like, 15 years. Like, I stopped doing that a long time ago. Smart, you're a veteran in the game. PK gave you the game. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, a lot of people out of New England are saying Patricia's the OC. Is that just something that, you know, is going to start that way

and then Judge will probably take the reins one week? Or what are you hearing? You know, what's so interesting about this is, like, that I think a lot of it, like, is based on Bill wanting to create continuity back into the building. They've lost so many people the last five or six years. And so, for example, Elliot Wolfe is their number two in personnel, right? And he got two GM interviews this offseason.

He's been the number two in three different places, and yet the scout Matt matt grow becomes the replacement for dave ziggler and the same thing sort of happened on offense where i think the reason why bill didn't go for the obvious choice here and bill o'brien was that he was afraid if he brought bill o'brien back from alabama he would lose him in a year like if bill o'brien knocked it out of the park with mac then all right like now we're going to lose him and we're going to be right back to square one. Is that the right way to do hiring? I would argue maybe not,

but they are rebuilding the offense behind Matt Patricia, who's working with the offensive line and is the de facto for now run game coordinator, and Joe Judge, who's coaching the quarterbacks and is the de facto pass game coordinator. And I think those guys are being forthright when they say, like a decision really hasn't been made on who's going to be the play caller i wouldn't rule out bill being the play caller either if he doesn't think that things are where they need to be in august i would love that uh meeting bring in joe and matt sit him down

i was hoping one of you would pull away from the other person but you're both fucking stink just like you or pat they could do thunderdome in training camp hey we like good thunderdome conversation how many camps will you travel to albert last year i think i did 25 bus you're on a bus rv what are you doing i do i so i i like driving through the midwest Um, so like, you know, cause like there's a, obviously I went to school out there and everything else. So like, I'll, I'll usually fly into a Midwest city, um, either on the East side of the West side. So I may fly into Cleveland and then drive West or fly into like Minneapolis and drive East. And so like, I'll do a drive across the Midwest. Um, you know, I'll do LA cause there are three teams there with the Cowboys there. Um, you know, and then generally I'll do something on there are three teams there with the Cowboys there.

And then generally I'll do something on the East Coast. So I drive as much. I actually like driving, especially with the way airports are now. I would rather be able to control my schedule that way where I can leave when I want to leave. And if somebody wants to meet with me later in the day, I can do that. I can accommodate them.

So I actually like to drive as much of it as I can. But obviously, there's a lot of flights involved. What are airports like nowadays, Albert? God awful. I haven't been in one in a long time. I mean, I paid $900 to fly to the owner's meetings in Atlanta from Boston a couple weeks ago. And the way that they're canceling flights now, too. You guys been through this?

So bad. Yeah, yeah. It is so bad. So we went on vacation in March, right? And they have, like, every day they got three flights from Boston to Palm Beach. And so we buy the flights, whatever, a couple months ahead of time. Me and my wife and my three kids are flying down to Florida. And they canceled the other two flights and just put us on like the 8 p.m.,

which you can't do with little kids, you know? So now all of a sudden, this flight we booked two months in advance, you've got to fly through New York to get to Palm. So it's just all this stuff is like it's a disaster flying. Nowadays, yeah. Absolute disaster. I thought you were mad about the mask, potentially. I thought it was the mask. Oh, no, no, no, no. No, it's a disaster flying right now. Nowadays, yeah. Absolute disaster. I thought you were mad about the mask, potentially. I thought it was the mask.

Oh, no, no, no, no. No, it's gone now, right? Yeah, it's done. How was your travel? I mean, it's over now. Yeah, you don't need to wear a mask anymore, so we're good. Say it, Albert. What?

You say it, not me. I'm not saying three words. I said what? You kind of just said it. Just say it outright, three words. We don't have to wear a mask anymore? That's a lot words that's too many words that wasn't three what is that i mean eight to nine thousand words you think you understand how to count three words what you were just kind of implying towards right there we then the second word if you don't lose what do you do you we're good now? Yes!

I'm not like, honestly, through the whole thing, I was more of a, whatever you tell me to do, I'll do it. Like, I don't, like, somebody asked me a couple weeks ago, like, am I still wearing them on planes? And I said, no. And I'm like, but I don't really have, like, a strong opinion either way. Like, whatever they tell me to do I'll do yeah so what we wanted you to say was we beat COVID because it sounds like it sounds like that's what you were what like USA won COVID zero yes the world at this point we should we should

view this as a world fight because now not every I guess country is all the way back and people will still pass away from this and that is a terrible thing. But that was a long fight. It was a long fight. It was, yeah. That was a long fight. And I feel like since we're on the other side of it, nah, listen, I understand it's going to be around. It was terrible.

It was the worst thing that I've ever experienced. I assume, I don't know if anybody will ever be able to, for the rest of my life, I have no idea if anything will be able to be comparable to what COVID. Shut down the whole world. No sports, no live nothing. The entire world. Are you talking about just in Indiana or Pittsburgh? No, no, no.

The entire fucking globe had nothing to do. There was nothing to happen. Yeah, and here I am bitching about having to fly with a connection. Well, on the other side of it, though, there's a lot of problems here. Supply chain obviously working and how everything goes. I mean, it has rattled the entire world. But it feels like... Go ahead.

We're back. Yeah. Yeah. We all take it. We will take it. All right. But it feels like we'd be covered, so we should be celebrating. Yeah.

And if I hear about new regulations, protocols, I'm like, what do they know that we don't know? Because if we're getting back into this, I'd like to know because I'd like to not die, you know? That'd be something that'd be pretty cool. I'd like to continue to live, beat COVID throughout the last two years. Would like to continue to do so. But it's great to hear that you agree. We did beat COVID.

Go ahead, Connor. I actually already did. Oh, no, no. Sorry. It's on Diggs. Go ahead, pal. Yeah, Albert, correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like you did a kind of a piece on Colbert after the last, his, no. Sorry. Tom Diggs. Go ahead, pal. Yeah, Albert, correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like you did a kind of a piece on Colbert after his final draft.

And then I've seen you do some stuff on Omar Khan. Do you think Deontay Johnson and Minkah Fitzpatrick both get contracts before the season? Or do you think one of them maybe? How do you feel? What's your read on Omar Khan as a new GM? You know, I think Omar is going to be somebody who will delegate and understands the big picture. He's been involved in every facet of the organization. He's been working with the owner and at the ownership level on certain things. So I think he's got a really solid understanding of the way that everything works

and a solid understanding that Mike mike tomlin's got to be the guy out front which is like one of kevin colbert's biggest strengths it's going to look different because omar isn't a scout the way that you know kevin came up as a scout but that's why they hired andy weidel um as far as like minka and dionte i would be dionte probably not just because i think the receiver market has gone crazy. I think they're going to try with Minka. It feels to me like Minka is maybe a little bit more realistic because the safety, the price of safeties is still like in that 15, 16 range where you have like Christian Kirk getting 18 million a year. if you're Deontay Johnson, is a smart move for you to take a little bit less to stay in Pittsburgh?

Or is it to try and have a great year and then take your chances in free agency next year? Like my guess would be the equation for Deontay Johnson might be a little bit different than it is for Minka. Albert, we appreciate you joining us, man. What do you think pops next? Contract news? Do you think a trade maybe? What's going on with Jimmy G, Baker, all that stuff? You think any of that happens anytime soon? I think... Well, so I think Deshaun's going to happen in July. Okay, that's a punishment happening in July?

I think the punishment happens in July because the discovery deadline is June 30th. That's the big one that the NFL is waiting for. I think the punishment happened. I think the sanctions come in July. And then I would say, once we get past next week, you're going to hear more about Baker and you're going to hear more about Jimmy. The Browns have been willing to take on like a pretty big portion of Baker's salary. My understanding is they're willing.

They've already offered to take on $9 or $10 million of his money. So the question is going to be are they willing to go a little further than that? And then with Jimmy, it's just about getting him to the point where he can throw again. And so if he can demonstrate, he can throw at the end of the month, which is sort of the target that I think the dynamic could change with him a little bit too.

And people, same teams are interested in both of those guys. Yeah. I mean, Carolina is the one that I think Carolina is sort of the approach they've taken here is we want to get a look at Sam Darnold, Ben McAdoo's offense. We want to get a look at Matt Corral, how he comes along coming from a simplistic college offense. And then we're going to reassess after we're done with the offseason program.

So that's why I'm saying like in about a week and a half, Carolina, Seattle, like those teams, I think are going to have probably a better overall idea of where they are at quarterback and that's when I think the talks you know resume between whether it's San Francisco and Carolina Cleveland and Carolina you know Seattle and San Francisco whatever it is like the combination of those. Like I think some of those talks probably get rekindled at the end of next week. Hour two done. Oh, got it. Unreal.

Yeah. Hard out at 52, zero, zero. Not your fault. My fault. Asked you a question leading into it because I got lost in the conversation. Soon as you got done, it was 51, 59. Yeah. Hour two done.

Boom. We sent it to break. That's called hosting. Sorry about it. Oh, yeah. Sorry about it, Albert. Wow. I'm sorry. Did did i did i blow the clock there no i did by asking you a question with 40 seconds left to a hard out that's bad hosting good hosting get back throw a pick throw a touchdown on the other side i've been told i've been told i can be a little i could probably be a little more

concise with my words too no you you've given us great answers we appreciate that like don't you this is 100 my fault but the reason why i chimed in there like i was uh throwing up on your answer was because we had half a second but we appreciate all your information here you've given us answers that we haven't been able to find the july deshaun watson uh punishment from the nfl big news right there about two weeks from the baker jimmy because of the week and a half post, the mandatory minicamps and offseason things for teams to evaluate their quarterbacks. Great piece of information there. I appreciate the hell out of you.

All right. Well, I appreciate you, Pat. Thanks for having me on. Masshole that went to Ohio State. I could not even fathom. Hell of a combo. Is it? Probably. You know what my fun fact was? My fun fact was that the books behind AJ are fake. Like, I think you told

me that in the fall. What? What? There's one real book back there. Maybe you do get a little bit too long-winded. I'm joking. We appreciate the hell out of you, man. Hopefully you'll come back on again. Alright, thanks guys. I appreciate it.

Ladies and gentlemen, Monday Morning Quarterback author from sports illustrator albert bruce all right joining us now a man who has run a company from a couple million dollars up to a five billion dollar valuation an absolute stud of a businessman international relations so much so that this weekend ufc 275 is actually hosting its first ever pay-per-view in Southeast Asia, Singapore. They've been there four times before. This will make the fifth. It'll be the biggest, the baddest with a light heavyweight championship on the line as the marquee fight, ladies and gentlemen, the president of the UFC, Dana White. Yeah, Dana! Dana, what's up? How are you guys? Good to see you. Hey, I don't want to dive right into UFC 275. Congrats on having your first ever pay-per-view in Southeast Asia.

That's awesome. Thank you. I appreciate it. Hey, we'll talk about... You know what? We have... I got to tell you this. We have one of the best intern programs in all of sports.

And we got like 48 interns here now for the summer. And yesterday... I host them all like, you know, after they've been here for like a week and whatever and one of the big topics of discussion yesterday at the intern meeting was you and what you've created and what you've built and uh you know how all these kids look up to you and uh you know it was pretty cool to hear so congratulations to you I thought I'd share that with you Dana thank you for that that That's awesome. What did you say? Guy wears a tank top, a little bit of a clown.

Let's say I'm going to be a little bit more professional. No, I appreciate that so much, though. Thank you. Tell all your interns, too, like nothing but love. And hopefully they take advantage of the opportunity to be in the UFC. Okay? That's a huge. There's only a few companies, I think, that are really, you know,

founders are basically still around, some bad motherfuckers going in there. That's awesome. And tell them all thank you. I would like to ask for your thought here, though, because you've got a big fucking brain. PGA Tour, have you kept up with this at all? Do you know what's going on with this? What is it? OK, so the PGA Tour, since the beginning of time, I guess they've never paid any of their golfers. They golfers had to pay their own travel, their own hotel. There's no deals. You basically just get made whatever you earn in winning. And I guess the average is like a million bucks for the top, like 60 golfers and everything like that. This Live Tour has come in, backed by Saudi Arabia,

and they're paying guys $125 million, $200 million. Phil Mickelson was offered to come golf on their tour. Kevin Na, Sergio Garcia. There's like four or five names that are big names with a lot of guaranteed money the PGA Tour doesn't have. And the majors here in America are allowing those golfers to come back and golf in the majors as well, which is basically the only thing that matters in golf legacy for the top guys. Do you think there's a way that the PGA Tour can keep up here? And in your business, there's companies that pop up all the time.

There's one. There's Bellator. There's been numerous ones that pop up. Do you keep an eye on that? And how do you combat against it? How do you combat against it? Is the PGA Tour completely, like, panicked right now, you think, with this? Yeah, no, it's fascinating.

I mean, everybody's making a move right now to get into sports. I mean, sports, sports business has been growing since the 80s, since I first started diving into it and looking into, you know, getting involved in the sports world. From pay of the athletes to sponsorship, to television rights, the list goes on and on how the numbers just keep going through the roof i mean i was just looking yesterday in 2001 you know the the broncos sold yesterday i heard for like four and a half billion yeah and i was looking at like the boston celtics sold for 386 million back in 2001 i mean now every one of these teams are worth a minimum of $2 billion. There's a ton of money in sports. We learned through the pandemic how important live sports really are to us and what it means to us as a society.

And there's no doubt, if you look at what we're doing over in the Middle East, I've been waiting to announce this big announcement that you know for like a year but but something that we're doing that's going on in the middle east with abu dhabi um yeah the middle east is are you announcing that right now are you about to make that a shitload of money and you know they want to be involved in and and a lot of these major sports too i know know that, you know, I think the NBA did a deal with Abu Dhabi where they're building basketball courts all over Africa and, you know, all kinds of crazy shit's going on. The sports business just keeps going like this. The PGA is going to have competitors, you know. Everybody's going to have competitors, but it's good. It's

good for the marketplace it's good for everybody dana does a new league like this ever have like how do they ever show any profit if they're paying phil mick 200 mil another guy 125 mil do they ever have to turn a profit yeah that's interesting uh i i don't know man it's what's like boxing they got any of these boxing guys to put on these these fights where you hear that this guy's making 40 mil. This guy's making – do you think those guys are making money? They're not making money. They're all hurting.

That's why the sport's dying. Some people are going to go out and they're going to build real businesses, and other guys are going to be a flash in the pan or pay to play. Obviously, Saudi Arabia wants to pay to play. They want to be involved. They're looking to tourism now. These guys want to start bringing people out. I think they just put

I can't remember what the number is. Billions and billions of dollars into infrastructure for tourism over there. How do you get people to show up and come out and put on unbelievable golf tournaments with big name players and put on big golf tournaments with big-name players and put on big sporting events and concerts and shit like that?

Dana, you've gotten to meet more people than we ever will, especially in positions of power when you're doing Yas Island and Singapore. I'm sure you're having to meet people and let them know what you're looking to do and what you're thinking about doing. How much of it weighs on you about what they're trying to become versus what they maybe were as a country, you know? Because that's the big conversation. Everybody's like, now granted,

the people that are tweeting that they hate that somebody's getting into business with Saudi Arabia is tweeting from a phone that was probably created through some sort of illegal labor that was happening while wearing Nikes and wearing clothes. Like, you know, so it's a whole, there's a mess of contradiction that happens in a lot of things but there is a just i think like saying hey there was some fucked up shit that potentially happened there how much of that do you get to know about hear about and how much of that is in the conversation of these countries

being like hey we're trying to advance where we are and what we are? When you're a global business like we are, people are going to do mean shit to each other all over the world. Okay. And if you're going to boycott and run every time somebody does something mean to each other, you won't have a business. Okay. We have all different types of nationalities, religions, you know, people from all over the world. We have different groups of people who have been battling with each other for a thousand years. It's the way that the world works. I don't get caught up in all that bullshit. And we run a global business.

Not everybody. The world is a very unperfect place, everybody. Get used to it. Hold on. We wish it wasn't, thoughfect place, everybody. Get used to it. Hold on. We wish it wasn't, though, right? We all wish it wasn't. We all wish it was a perfect world, but that's just not reality. And sometimes that gets forgotten about. The hardest thing from reality.

And, you know, yeah, the world is never going to be a perfect place. We're all doing the best we can do and trying to make the most of it you know um you can't run and fucking boycott every everything that happened i mean every fucking day something happens and something's going on and if you're you're that guy running around trying to save the fucking world keep tweeting possible job yeah keep tweeting. I think you almost got canceled for that macaroni milkshake. Yeah, I should have been canceled for that. How cool is it, though, that you do have a sport that the globe loves? Because I think a lot of things that happen can help bring the globe together,

and that never gets talked about. All that ever gets talked about is like, oh, I can't do that because of these people, these people. It's like, what about their citizens, though, sharing a common bond with people on the other side of the fucking world? Like, that's a pretty cool thing to realize, I think. And when you go Singapore, Southeast Asia, how long is that flight?

Yeah, it's like 23 hours. Jesus. 23 hours, opposite side of the globe. I assume it operates in a much different fashion than here, but there will be a packed out arena there of people watching the same things that we're watching on ESPN+. And it's like a common bond.

Like, that's a cool power that you have. I think one of the things that I try to do, listen, we all have our own political views and whatever they might be. Personally, I try to keep all that shit out of it. Um, you know, in the live event, even during COVID, when we decided to go through COVID and did it, you never heard me talking about COVID during the event event you could turn on every other channel on tv and hear about covid all the other bullshit that was going on during that sports are an escape where we all come together you know as a fan of one side or the other and and we root and we and we enjoy this um you know this time that we have while we're watching a sporting

event. And it takes us away from all the shit that's going on in our life. And we tried to do the best job we could through COVID and every other time, you know, when we're, if some horrible tragedy happens, you know, we address it at the beginning of the show, you know, and give our thoughts and prayers to people. And then we move right into the show and let you escape from all the bullshit that's going on in your life. It's called a celebration of sport, you know, and somehow that got like forgotten about in this whole world. It's like sports became an avenue for, you know, all these other, which by the way, very important to the world, very serious to the world. Which, by the way, very important to the world, very serious to the world, but also, like, not everybody wants to hear what other, like, just the getaway is being forgotten about. You can hear that on every other fucking channel on TV.

You don't need to hear it during sports. It's just my personal opinion. So, you know, let all these other guys knock themselves and do whatever the hell you want you know but that that's never going to happen in the ufc while i'm here good agent dana what about this weekend ufc 275 there's a lot of great fights on the card but can you describe to people what this pro hoska guy may is like i know he's fighting glover to share which is absolute legend champ in the game but what is this fight going to be like? Yeah, no, it's a great fight. Obviously, you know, I don't know if you guys have heard,

but there's been a lot of talk about, you know, Glover taking him down and Uri not being able to, you know, get back on his feet and go to the ground with him. We disagree. This guy's got a 96% finish rate. He's an absolute savage stud. It should be an incredible fight. Valentina Shevchenko, one of the greatest female fighters of all time, is taking on Santos. If you guys watch the feature for this fight, it's a very, very good fight. And Santos is actually a great opponent for the incredible Valentina Shevchenko. And Weili Zhang versus Ioannou Jacek,

probably the greatest female fight of all time. And this is the rematch. Hey, what's that arena going to be like? Is it an arena, a stadium? How'd you go about picking that? Yeah, and it sold out. I mean, we sold this thing out. So it's going to

be interesting i don't know you know the asian fans are usually a lot quieter uh than the americans or the british but uh it's going to be interesting it's going to be fun why is that you think you think they're uh judging and analyzing it as like something they want to break down or why do you think that is i don't know it's interesting interesting because I've actually gone to a couple of pride events where these guys would have, you know, 65,000 to a hundred thousand people inside the super dome. And, uh, and you can hear a pin drop. You can literally corner a guy from up in the nosebleeds.

It was so quiet in there. It'll be like the apex or whatever. Yeah. Just a different type of fan. It was so quiet in there. It'll be like the apex or whatever. The, that apex. Yeah. It's a different type of fan. Hey, those, those elbows to the face there.

The first, that first apex where whatever you, what'd you do? You just build an arena next to your offices. Basically. Is that what happened? Yeah. We,

we bought the building next door and turned it into an arena. We ain't ever dealing with another fucking pandemic again. We need an arena right over there that we own, that's on our grounds, that we can have a fight. I respect that so much. Whenever you think about being in Singapore for the fifth time,

is there anywhere you haven't been where you're looking to go? Do those conversations happen all year, all year round? Like things just pop up and it's like, oh, yeah, we should do that. Is there anything you're thinking of? We're going to Paris, France for the first time this year. You guys should do a live show from Paris, France, from the UFC. All right.

When is it? When is it? When is it? September 3rd. Huh? September 3rd. September 3rd. I mean, that's going to be tough.

Right in the middle of fucking football season, Dana? Right before the first week, right? Is that where you did it? September 8th. Is that the opening weekend? When is it? September 8th is the Thursday, that's going to be tough. Right in the middle of fucking football season, Dana? Right before the first week, right? Is that where you did it? September 8th. Is that the opening weekend? September 8th is the Thursday. That's Labor Day. Oh, that's the cut-down weekends.

Yeah. Oh, we're fucking in. Okay, will you give us a good spot? Let's do it. Okay. You've been waiting a year to make some. Let's do it. Do a live event from Paris, France.

We'll set it up. I'll even kick in some money to help you guys to get out there. Now we're talking. Hell yeah. Now we go. Oui, oui. Je m'appelle Pat. The $487 million

you already got isn't enough. I'll give you some more money and help you guys fly over there. A wise pellet named Wheezy F Baby said, too much money

ain't enough money okay so we will try to save everything we possibly can uh go ahead ty schmidt dana like pat mentioned you guys have basically at this point been damn near everywhere in the world but when you do go to these like new international markets does it take more time matchmaking putting that card together like do you feel a little bit more pressure because it's like i mean people are already watching but it's like oh we need this live event to be fucking insane. No, that's a great question. But no, I mean, every week we're very focused and aware of matchmaking.

It's all about the matchmaking. It's what keeps this business going like this. It's the ability to go out and find the best talent in the world and put on the best fights that you could possibly make. So every week we worry about that, not just when we go into new territories. Hey, big names being lingered, rumored, you know, big names. Hey, guy from Ohio, Stipe, huh, Stipe. And then who's that other guy?

Oh, John Jones. Hey, the Internet is cooking right now, Dana. That's good news for your business, good news for you. Should we snoop around on that anymore, or what do you think? Yeah, obviously Francis Ngannou had to have knee surgery. So the thing that possibly makes sense, depending on how fast he's going to be back, would be Stipe versus John Jones in the heavyweight division, and the winner fights him.

When's that? Paris? We're working on it. We're working on it. Hey, what's that going to take? Is that business with you and Jon Jones? Business good? Not a problem there?

What would it be? Yeah, I mean, if you've got a big fight like that, it's either Vegas or Madison Square Garden. Hey, hey. Are we going to be able to set up outside of that one? Yeah. If you've got a big fight like that, it's either Vegas or Madison Square Garden. Okay. Hey, are we going to be able to set up outside of that one? Yeah. You can't get some money for us to come. That'd be awesome.

Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Dana, do you ever see the baddest motherfucker belt being put up again? Because that whole entire promotion for that was unbelievable. Yeah, I agree. I don't know. Possibly, yes. Oh, okay. unbelievable yeah no i i agree um i don't know it possibly yes oh okay is there certain people that you would put into a baddest motherfucker division it's like okay here we go this is what we do or how would that work right well you know it's interesting he asked that question

it's crazy how many of the guys actually want that belt so um yeah it's something to think about i haven't thought about it but it's something to think about well i'm happy we could drop that in your world john john here we go paris i mean add things into your world that's awesome last question here dana we can't thank you enough go ahead tone dana not so much a question i just heard a clip of you the other day talking about your goal when you go into a casino and then i heard pat talking about the other day as well and i didn't know if you knew but you two have the same mindset you said you go in there you put a hundred you're not there for drinks you're not there for anything else you put 150 000 down on a hand and if you win that hand

you could be you want 150 000 that's the goal and pat always tells us hey you can leave this place as a winner you're allowed to walk away with chips people forget 100 because the problem is is everybody wherever you're from, you're going to Vegas with your buddies, and you literally take an amount of money that you're willing to lose, whether it's $1,000, $1,500, $2,000. You get to the casino. You sit down at the table with your buddies.

You start drinking, talking. Nobody's paying attention. You're not playing the right way. You lose $2,000. Oh, well, we're going to a show. We're going out. We're going to the club. I go in to win.

If you go in with $ hundred dollars and you win a hundred dollars you just doubled your money you can get up and leave but nobody does it yeah it's you're you're the guy at blackjack too huh you're the guy i do okay what's the trick why you get booted dana you count cards what are you doing the trick is the trick is to get up and leave when you're winning. There's a whole system to it. I negotiate a deal before I go in and play. And let me tell you what, I'm going to tell everybody right now. If you're a real player and you play big money and you're really there to play, don't play in any casino in this town except for Caesars Palace.

Caesars Palace is the only place that can really handle big play, treats you right, takes care of their customers, and does everything the right way. And if you guys really want to do it, you guys should come out here one of these times. I'll take you to Caesars with me, and I'll show you some shit. All right, I'll kick in some money for that. How much am I bringing?

$150? Is that the number? Hey, you got big dough, man. You bring whatever you want. I'll help negotiate your deal over at Caesars. Well, I'll do whatever you're doing. All right, deal. All right, that's awesome. We can't thank you enough.

Good luck with $275 this weekend, the first pay-per-view in Southeast Asia. You're the absolute man. We'll see you soon. Tell all those interns we said what's up. Will do. Take care, boys. Have a great weekend. Ladies and gentlemen, Dana White.

Yeah! Got it. Got it. Got it. When you're talking about something that serious, they'll have to be fucking stuck. Seriously. I can't wait to see the first Let's Ride video.

I wonder if they're going to put them all over each other. You on top of each other? Yeah, like an echo effect. What if it is and they get a little, put a little auto-tune on it? Like with the Matrix? Broncos, Broncos, Broncos. Country, country, country. What music?

DJ. Let's rot, rot, rot, rot, rot, rot, rot, rot. And it's him. That ESPN DJ? That would be awesome. That would be amazing. Let's him that he is that'd be amazing let's do it future is russ and future tight i don't think so all right let's move on definitely not i'm not 100 sure maybe maybe we don't know we don't know well actually we do because uh russell and sierra were at a party and they didn't know future was there and they had and they left oh i don't believe that was they got kids man they probably let the babysitter go. Yeah, they probably got food poisoning.

Probably felt a little sick. Maybe some people weren't wearing their masks. I think it was the only time we've seen them in public where they weren't holding hands and lovey-dovey, actually. What? What? What is this? This sounds like a bunch of bullshit.

No, this happened over the summer. They were at a charity event or something, and Future was a surprise performer, and they were unaware unaware and they left immediately I thought it was the Super Bowl Sierra still has feelings for Future I don't know about that What are you doing?

That's what Connor said Listen, none of us know it is No, Russ just stood up and said Hey Sierra, let's rock What did he say? Hey Sierra, let's ride. Let's ride. Wait, what did he say? Hey, Sierra, let's ride. A little bit more. Does it change?

What if he's really upset? How does he say it? No, yeah, future just showed up. What is he saying? Hey, Sierra, let's ride. All right, let's say he's pumped. Let's say somebody he loves shows up. Hey, Sierra, let's ride.

Oh, okay. Okay, what if they're going to the VCon? Yeah. That's exciting. Hey, Sierra, let's rock. Okay. Okay, what if they're going to VCon? Yeah. That's exciting. Hey, Sierra, let's rock. Okay, yeah. Sounded like there wasn't enough excitement. Nah, I mean, Gary Vee.

I just can't do it. What? Have you read AJ Hawke's Wikipedia? I have. He one day dreams of working for Gary Vee. Anyways, none of you deserve to work for gary v except for me and foxy maybe thank you me and fox how much would you pay to work for gary v well getting closer to his son get a chance to pay a lot of money for the blackjack hand with day no way bingo yes there you go hey that's gonna happen do you hear that? That's pretty sweet. How much am I losing at?

Like $250,000? No, you're walking away. Remember, you got to get a marker. One hand, win, leave. Yeah, maybe. I mean, that's what you hope happens. When a five-card 21 pops up on that hand, that's going to be a heartbreaker. Yeah.

I'm guessing Dana plays one-on-one with the dealer like Jordan. He didn't want some slappy sitting at third base hitting on 18. Wow. Like Julio Jones. I had a little blackjack happening in my house for my birthday or whatever. Oh, yeah. There were some terrible decisions being made around that table. But it works out.

And then they win. Look at me. I'm smart. I won. Bingo. Yeah. Guess who's getting snake bit. But guess what? Yeah, who's getting snake bit.

But guess what? Yeah, Ty's going to lose. But that just kind of continues to be a trend. Pat, did Coach JB kill two owls? I don't know. I haven't kept up with the owl story. What's going on? There were some owls attacking his dogs last night, and he told them, like, you guys come down here.

I'm going to get you. What? What'd they do? Hoot back? I don't know if they came down. I bet he hit him with a baseball bat if they got near his dog. JV's got a good baseball bat swing. He does.

He can shoot a basketball. He can throw a football. He used to be an all-city quarterback. That's right. With that bat, they said he owl hunts. We expect. It could have been the blow poke. Kill his motherfucking owl.

The fire? Yeah. We expect. Who expect? What? That was his motivational speech. Coach JV, motivational speech. You know what's cool?

Here in LA, we're hearing JV break down quarterback play. What's that, pal? I liked standing there. When JV got into the technical aspects of QB play, like footwork, he knows the stuff, like the individual coaching, all the tiny things that make me a terrible coach are what make JB a great coach. Yeah, his delivery is just something that some people who do the hiring

will never be able to keep up with. Yeah. But I do believe JB does love the football and know the football. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. He is very passionate about football, which is cool to see. Loves the football. I mean, Coach Juco, you got to be.

Like old Wano. Old Wayne Gretzky loves hockey. I can tell that from watching Biz and them on their show. He loves Edmonton, I think, a lot too. Biz last night with the announcement of the starters. Fuck for the Oil Kings or whatever. Legendary. That haircut.

Biz is doing it right now. It is awesome to see. He's awesome. He is. He's fantastic see He's awesome He is He's fantastic He's good for hockey As is Wano talking Yeah

Absolutely It's good to have Wano up there I didn't know he was Is he from Edmonton? No that's just where he played And had a majority of his success Okay yeah Because they got

A lot of Gretzky records There at Edmonton Those people are probably Losing their mind That fucking old Wano Is just sitting up in a concourse Right in that arena Oh yeah they love it Like he's a national hero obviously he's everything that's awesome

can't wait for poster knock to be a pittsburgh bang with paul hey i watched that game those guys are so good and so damn fast it's unbelievable watching the play so fast that's the thing like you look at these teams that are left playing right now well see Edmonton see it's pretty quick and easy come easy go there Mike Smith hell of a run hey good job Mike it was entertaining though hell yeah it was he was staying on his head like actually and letting up goals the um hell of a run Mike thank you Mike the speed is the difference between the teams that make it and the teams that don't it is very Hell of a run, Mike. Hey, good job, Mike. Thank you, Mike. Thank you, Mike. The speed is the difference between the teams that make it and the teams that don't.

It is very obvious. Like, they are much faster. That Colorado team flies. Now, I'm not saying that Tampa doesn't and that New York doesn't, but the teams that make it are the teams that fly, as opposed to, you know, maybe the Pens are going to have to pick up Poshnok right wing or Boston Bruins. Ruffer pretty much confirmed it. NHL insider for the NHL Network

told us Pasternak going to Pittsburgh Bangles. I don't know. Ruppert also said, you know, last week, like I mentioned, Crecce, but I really wish I could care more about this, but, you know, the Celtics are in the finals. I really, you know, I worry about hockey next hockey season. That's why Pasternak's coming to hockey time.

That's not why. That's just how it works. Today's show is... University of Denver, I believe, won the national title and now the Avs just swept them to go to the Stanley Cup. So I guess Evy is pretty upset Detroit is not hockey time. Everyone wants to be Detroit. Everyone wants to be hockey time.

Never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever. Has, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever. Has that been said? Yes. No. You guys are the first person on earth to ever say that sentence. Hey, we never get to do this, actually.

Most words and phrases and sentences have been concocted at some point by a human in the history of language. First time that's ever been said. Way to go. You guys are so fucked, too. From the rooftops, I want to be Detroit. That's what you guys are saying every hockey talk.

We burst you. And you know what? Little Caesars pizza stinks. Yeah. It says rocket mortgage. I can't say that. It does. I love hot and readies.

Little Caesars used to be so good. Hot and readies. I cannot slander Little Caesars. I'm going to say that $5 takeaway thing or whatever it was.

Pizza, pizza. It's dog shit. It's pepperoni. Do you put college, $5 of that pizza? You eat that $5 bill, it would taste better. No, no, no. Well, $5 bill is only this big. The pizza was $5.

It was pretty good for size. You get crazy bread for $1.99, too. Ranch dressing on everything. Anyways, now that I'm an adult, Little Caesars did kind of taste like cardboard dinner. Hungry Howie's is way better than Little Caesars. Hungry Howie's is great. Domino's is great. Domino's is also from Michigan.

We're Pizza Town too, I guess. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Shut your mouth. Mom's spaghetti though. That's a fucking restaurant. He's nervous, but on the surface he looks calm and ready to drop bombs. But he keeps on forgetting what he wrote down. The whole crowd goes so loud.

He opens his mouth, but the words won't come out. He's choking out. Everybody's choking out. The time's up. Over. Blah. Step back to reality, AJ. Jesus.

Let's get back to the show. Hoff is still buried there? Well, turns out maybe MetLife Stadium or something. Yeah, in the end zone. Not Detroit. Yeah, I'm not hurt. Detroit sucks. We all know that.

I didn't even hear what Tony said. Is John Wayne Gacy still alive? He does not live in Detroit, I don't think. John Wayne Gacy. That's Waterloo. Is your guy still alive? No, he's dead. He's deader than shit. Is he? Yeah. He died in jail, I don't think, John Wayne Gacy. That's Waterloo Island. Is your guy still alive? No, he's dead. He's deader than shit.

Is he? Did they kill him? Yeah. He died in jail? I believe so, yeah. COVID get him or before? I think some guard just shot him in the back of the head. That's awesome.

Sounds like a classic bait and switch, and he's actually out there. Well, like, Waxy's guy. Yeah. Major. Who? Who else is out there? Yeah, I know. Innocence. Who's still out there you know i don't know it's hard what happened to lady and that dude that were running shit and they had an island and everything and the one guy committed suicide lady and the tramp well the other lady

that's like what that documentary gets into which documentary where the end about i think it was about gizlaine it might have been ep, and at the end they reveal how they knew each other and Ghislaine's father and that entire thing kind of. He fell off a boat. Sheds a completely

different light on him. She fell off a boat? He did. He died. He fell off his yacht. They think he, you know, there might be some foul play.

Epstein? No, no, no. Ghislaine's dad, remember? And then they casually dropped at the end. Well, he's a secret

agent. That he was a secret agent. Yeah, they're all spies. Allegedly it's all spies trying to garner blackmail on the rest of the world. And that's what that little black book is about.

And they're alive for sure. They just put plastic surgery on the face and they're off and running somewhere else. He was just trending on Saturday. Oh, yeah. Probably because he got a new plastic surgery. Yeah. Why does that stuff happen, you think, in our world?

It's hard not to believe what we just said. It's probably misinformation we just said and people tell us is that, but it's hard not to believe some stuff after what other stuff does happen. Even Elon. Elon's asking, like, hey, where's all the info? What's going on here?

Those guards are in prison now. We were supposed to be on duty they got a deal i think they got a little guard they're prison guards of course not yeah but i think they got charged that's good that's good that's pretty good about it yeah because i saw them in jail in my head full duty i'm like well i guess everybody in there's in jail i used to watch locked up a lot you ever watch that? That was good.

I've been seeing on YouTube, pops up a little bit for me, like they put people in that are almost like undercover people and they go into these open pod jails. Not undercover. And people go under the stairs and get beat up and stuff. Yeah, it's not undercover people. It's just humans. They're just doing it as like a social experiment. And the jails, I forget the name of it, 60 Days maybe?

Yeah. 60 Days Inn. I went on quite a bender of this as well. There were some idiots in there. You are acting wrong right now. You are in a bad spot. I would never do that. The jail knows, though, right?

Like, everyone knows. Not everyone. No, just the warden. The guards don't even know. Guards don't know. Warden knows. So the cameras are just there, but they're just always there, I guess? I think they tell the jail.

It's not cameramen walking around. They're fixed. They're PTZs. I think they tell the jail that it's like a reality show about jails or something like that. Like, it's just coverage of it. Because the big fear in that 60 Days Inn is somebody found out I'm on a TV show. You get me out of here. And they do like the, you know, to the thing.

Like, I'm about to get sliced right now. Please get me the fuck out of here. And then if the warden or the camera crew can't get a hold of the guards who don't know, so they have to call the guards to do the whole thing, there's always like this little bit of buzz right before a commercial. Is this person going to get their fucking throat slashed

on the other side? I don't know. We'll find out. It was a good show. It was a pretty good show there. I binged that one for a bit. I've seen some of the clips pop up like, oh, top five fights from

60 days in or whatever and it's pretty interesting you do not want to be have you ever been in like uh even the drunk tank or anything no luckily not it's the fucking worst dude they put me in a cage a glass cage in the middle of all the everybody else because i was a special bro i don't know how anybody does i have no clue how let alone like the thought about your life and what could be happening politically in there what you got to do and you know the reality tv of you got to win this person over and win this let alone all that shit just the sitting in the same place just forever a man there's just so many parts of that that ain't nobody want a piece of it if you're like me at all i hope eventually i wonder if eventually you i don't know you just settle into that no me or the you not you if you

like say you have a 10-year sentence at some point you gotta you have to i don't know does your brain just be like all right hey this is gonna accept it this is it yeah i guess you just have to accept it like you just have to kind of act as if They talk about it as months by the way Not years People in jail So what you just said They're 120 months Because then once that gets under 100 months It's like ooh milestone As opposed to years years years years years years

That'd be kind of tough I've seen that stuff about that super max out in Colorado Where like the unabomber is All like the big high profile people are That no one's ever escaped from. Yeah, we never hear from them again, right? Nobody's allowed to talk to them. They're not allowed to do anything.

They're not allowed to see anybody either. So what are we doing? And are they even there? I guess. Oh, no. What's his name? Released a whole entire book? Manifesto?

Yeah. Kaczynski? Kaczynski, yeah. Yeah, he did when he was out. That's how they found him. Mm-hmm. Yep. Out in that woods, in that cabin. It's so dumb, though. Okayaczynski, yeah. Yeah, he did when he was out. That's how they found him. Mm-hmm. Yep. Out in that woods in that cabin.

It's so dumb, though. Like, in these, when, okay, school shooters, too. When you say these kids left a manifesto, that's stupid. No, stop, like, glorifying the person. When you say they left this manifesto, no. It's a deranged. They're not a professor. It's a deranged kid that had ramblings that he wrote down on a piece of paper.

Stop calling it a manifesto. Like, that always annoys me. Yeah, me too. You're acting like there's some sophisticated being that should be read. Rolling Stones put the Boston Bomber on the cover. Yeah. Remember that? I remember that.

I don't remember that. Oh, yeah. The magazine did, not the band. Yeah. Rolling Stones, he still got it, by the way. Mick Jagger actually whirled them out, had them sing with them. So did Mick Jagger just sell the name of the band to the magazine? I thought so.

Or is it in conjunction with? That's a good question. That is a good question. I have no idea. Just go to the phones. What was first? The Chicken or the Egg? I think it was Evolution.

I thought it was Mick Jagger. The band started in the 50s, didn't they? Oh, God, I doubt it. 60s? I thought it was them. I said the band was first, and then... For sure. The magazine was a nod not just to the Rolling Stones,

but also to Muddy Waters' Rolling Stone. Papa was a rolling stone. And Bob Dylan's like a rolling stone. Oh, yeah. And as the euphemism, a rolling stone gathers no moss. And when... Huge few things. And as the euphemism, a rolling stone gathers no moss. Jim Irsay concert coming to town. Let's go.

Here we go. Yeah, I believe it's coming to Indianapolis. Hopefully we're not in Vegas gambling with Blackjack. What's that? Where does he play? I think just the entire downtown. He just runs out every street. Anywhere he wants. I'm coming. Puts his whole museum up. He just runs out every street. Anywhere you want.

I'm coming. Puts his whole museum up. The museum's on Meridian. Concert's on Georgia. Does James Dolan get to sing at all? Is James Dolan opening for him, the Knicks owner? I'm not sure if they're in the same band. He has an awesome band.

Yeah, I'm not sure if they're in the same band. I know he's got ZZ Top guys in his band. He's got Huey Lewis in the blues, I believe. Drummer, I believe. The News. Huh? Huey Lewis in the blues, I believe. Drummer, I believe. The News. Huh? Huey Lewis in the News. There it is then. He's got their jokes.

Bob Dylan? Oh, yeah. Oh, if Bob Dylan was there. I don't know if he's got. Is Bob Dylan dead? What about Jacob Dylan? No, still alive. I think he's friends with Bob Dylan.

Yeah. I believe Jim Irsay. Jacob Dylan has a lot of hits. Who's that? Bob's kid? Yeah. Yeah. One Headlight.

Is that him? Yeah. The Wallflowers. A lot of people say Bob's the greatest songwriter kid? Yeah. Yeah, One Headlight, is that him? Yeah, the Wallflowers. A lot of people say Bob's the greatest songwriter of all time. I believe Jim Hersey has said that before. What, you don't, what was that okay? I don't know, I don't know Bob Dylan enough. Has he written a lot of songs that other people have used?

Yes. Yeah. I figured that. Who do you think, Luke Combs? He wrote All Along the Watchtower, didn't he? Luke Combs? No, Bob Dylan. He said Jimi Hendrix did it.

Actually, you know what? I'd love a fucking Luke Combs All Along the Watchtower cover. Get to it, Luke. I see you playing golf. Do that. He's a good golfer? He did All Along the Watchtower. Whoever asked that.

Yeah, Bob Dylan wrote it. Yeah, good call. Way to look that up, Tony. Thank you, pal. All right, boy. Tony. Oh, yeah. Well, you can just rip anybody's song, Hostel.

Luke Combs is probably going to pull. I guarantee he's going to pull. What is that supposed to mean? He looks like he'd be good at pull. Which one is Luke Combs? You know who Luke Combs is. He has a big beard. Long day, guys.

Cold beer never broke my heart. He chugs beers a lot. Punts beers, shotguns beers. I like him. He's good. Hey, God's cold beer never broke my heart. He chugs beers a lot. Punts beers, shotguns beers. I like him. I think he's a good songwriter. I think so. Who's that other guy?

Big bearded guy? Was it Justin Timberlake, Tennessee? Stapleton. Chris Stapleton. He wrote a bunch of songs. He was a Tennessee whisker before he was an artist. He can sing. Oh, like Gaga. Ain't nobody like that guy from fucking One Republic.

Yeah. Ryan Singer. Is that his name? Yeah. All from the show. That reality show. From Songland. There it is.

Ryan Tatter. Yeah, from Songland. That guy, he's got great hair. He's got this blonde hair that goes. He's probably four foot something. I don't know. I have no idea. Never seen him in person.

I used to do a Europe tour. I follow him on Instagram. I comment on a couple of his things super mark like he said uh this is what i'm aware for my shows i think i commented one time doesn't matter what you want to do we're coming to show you what it is uh well there's no response from him he that songland show was awesome i don't know why they got rid of that show. I guess I was the only person watching it. Fucking worth it. Ryan Cabrera on it? No. I don't think so. That dog fight football

scene in Top Gun. They were playing a One Republic song on the beach. Yeah, they made the song for the movie, I believe. Yeah, he can make that song in half a second, by the way. Hey, we need a song Top Gun on the beach playing football with no rules. Got it. Boom! Need a little bit more hi-hat, a little bit more this, ba-ba-ba-ba-bum.

Had it out of nowhere. The guy is an absolute genius. Love him. Love everything about him. The Jonas Brothers. Wow, we just got a banger because of this guy. Updance Songland. It will not be coming back to TV, but maybe the app.

Maybe. That's a fucking hell. What app? 99. Peacock. Peacock. Peacock is an app. Things are on.

Yes. Not just WWE. Yeah, they got movies and shit yeah yeah i watched i watched the office on there yellowstone's on there there's shows on there daily shows are on there you know that first reason now i do not fair well that's what daily shows what do you mean so dan patrick's on there rich is on there i think pro football talks on there what oh geez okay yeah I'm just learning about this. Honestly, I had no idea. A fucking asshole bad guy. They're not on NBC Sports?

Is NBC Sports still a thing? That is not a thing anymore. I don't think it's a thing. It's dead. Oh. Yeah, I'm just learning this. Honestly, I did not know this. Well, they don't even have a tab for it.

Yeah, you got to do a little dumpster dive to find it. You got to go to sports and... It's in there. I've always found it all in the left side. Dumpster dive. I actually just watched a baseball game on Peacock the other day. How're going to go to sports. It's in there. I've always found it all on the left side. Dumpster dive. I actually just watched a baseball game on Peacock the other day. How was it? It was great.

It was better than the Apple coverage. Here we go. What's going on with that? I haven't seen any of the Apple coverage. What's going on? I mean, the camera angles are really sweet, and the cameras they have are super nice, but the booth absolutely stinks.

It's no way to watch a game. Who's doing it? It's good people, though. Good people. Is it people you know? One of them might be. I know Katie Nolan does it every once in a while, but then they have, like, a rotating cast,

and I don't think there's much chemistry. Are they in the stadium? Yeah, I think so. Okay. Is it being broadcast like most games are being broadcasted? Yeah, but the cameras, like, are a little bit different. It kind of has something like the, you know, when guys score in the NFL and they have that really nice camera in the end zone.

They're doing that when guys are on deck and stuff like that. So the game is a little bit different when you're watching it, but ultimately it stinks. Damn. Jesus. But it's nice. Hey, you know what? If they got games on there, I'll watch the Angels play late night.

You guys should go to the game. Yeah. Yeah. Today's show is brought to you by the best ticket app on planet Earth and The Moon. Sea Geek. Reminder that there is

another United States men's soccer game this weekend in Austin, Texas this Friday, June 10th. Are they going to boycott as well? No. No, just Canada.

I've learned a lot about Canada lately. Canada sucks. All the food slots. I like Canadian people. It sounds like people running Canada for a long time What happened?

I just have been learning more and more About it Let alone their team finally makes the World Cup And says actually We'd rather not play For this country That's crazy That happened just on Sunday

They sat down and said we'll go to the stadium But we ain't playing a game. No way. We'll run some passes, some ball possession games. We'll take it as a practice, but we ain't playing. Breaking, says Rick Westhead. Not Easthead. No.

Not Northhead. Don't even think about Southhead. That son of a bitch is always wrong. Rick Westhead, always right. All the time. Canadian men's national team will not play in a World Cup warm-up game scheduled tonight in Vancouver against at home, by the way, in Panama. The team is on strike over player compensation issues.

We'll have details tonight on SportsCentra. Listen, if Rick Westhead is tweeting about what you got going on, you're in deep shit. What's Rick Westhead? He does it, huh? He does heavy, deep stuff, yeah. tweeting about what you got going on, you're in deep shit. What's Rick Westhead? He does it, huh? He does heavy, deep stuff, yeah. That's what I've been saying. North head, south head, east head can't hold a flame head to west head.

The jokers. Ain't that right? That's what they say. I've heard that before. Hey, Rick. Rick will get the bottom of it. Anyways, the United States men's team is playing and not boycotting. Right.

They're going all out. Fans were boycotting in Cincinnati, Ohio, I guess, a couple weeks ago. Probably a lot going on. Well, maybe in Ohio, of course. But we wanted to help everybody out alongside SeatGeek. If you want to go to the game Friday, June 10th and support the future soccer Lombardi champions. Hell yeah. Right now with SeatGeek, use promo code WEARESOCCER.

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Thanks to our friends at SeatGeek. 20% off tickets to the United States men's national team game against whoever they're playing in Austin, Texas on Friday with the promo code WEARESOCCER. All one word. Hell yeah. Nameless, faceless opponents. Bingo. Is Polific playing or not?

Is there a ball on the field? Is it a pitch? Yeah. Ball's in the net then. Who are we playing? Granada. There's probably going to be some scoring happening. Granada sucks.

Exactly. Whoa, we might score 10 goals. See, we should. I'm going to be upset if we don't beat the shit out of Granada. Yeah. That's a tough sell to people that don't follow soccer on a regular basis. If you're not beating the country of Granada, which is beautiful. Beautiful.

Wonderful. But if you're the United States and you're not beating Granada by 10 to 15, I think you're going to lose a lot of Americans that are a little bit stupid on the entire soccer thing. Bingo.

We need that to happen. I'm still kind of bitter about Pulithic calling us out. Well, he called out Ohio. Yeah. AJ. Did he? Kansas City was packed.

It was. Tell you what, looking at pictures of Granada, it might be the fucking most beautiful place in the world. It is. It's gorgeous. That's why as soon as you said that,

I actually kind of got a little bit upset. Like, yo, whoa, whoa, whoa. Easy. But you're 100% right. Like, Granada. They suck at soccer. We should beat the fuck out of Granada.

Seriously. He's not wrong. And if we don't, then. They should be good, though. You would think playing in that nice weather 365 days a year, those would be an advantage. Okay. And if you want to go watch the United States play Granada. Yeah.

You see a key right now with promo code WeAreSoccer. No spaces for 20% off all tickets to watch. USA just fucking dominate Granada. In the road to get through. They only have a population of 100,000. So we better beat the fuck out of them

thoroughly. We could put together a team from Rhode Island to beat Granada. What? Seriously, we could. The country is smaller than how many cities in America? 100,000? Every single? All of them. Smaller than Indianapolis?

By far. It's probably smaller than Green Bay. It's a fifth of Indianapolis. Just need 11 good ones. That's how many play? That's what I mean. If that's how many play, act like you don't know as much about soccer as you do. Wow. Is it 11? Because my daughter just

stepped up to 11 on 11. Yes. 10 and a goalie. Let's call Gumpy real quick. Can we please? Basically the same population as Green Bay, Wisconsin. It's a great place. The Spice Boys. Their soccer team is known as. Oh, I love that. That's a good name. They better be singing because... If you wanna be my

soccer, you gotta beat Granada. Buy a mountain. I think two of the Spice Girls, I believe it was Sporty and Spicy. Really? We're in. Spicy Spice. Yeah. How's she doing?

She's good. She's good. I think she had a little extra flair. Yeah. She's crushing it. They were on The Circle, the Netflix show. Oh, I see. Oh.'s good. She's good. I think she had a little extra flair. Yeah, she's crushing it. They were on The Circle, that Netflix show. Oh, I see. Posh.

Was it Baby? They were on there for a couple episodes. Posh or was that Beckham? It was Baby and Scary. I thought it was Sporty. No. Scary? Posh was Victoria, right?

Scary was America's Got Talent? Yes. Mel B. Mel B. Is Scary Spice? I was well-versed and educated by my lady about what we were watching yeah i would have never known i thought it was spicy spicy why is she scary spice because you get all of them with the group yeah somebody had to be scared you have some of her

spices you're scared yeah hey you ever look at a spice right all right joining us now is our soccer aficionado who's currently being uh detained in a country that I'm learning more and more about by the day. And starting to get more and more. What the fuck? Yeah. The Canadian sensation, ladies and gentlemen, Bubba Gump. What's up, boys? Hey, how's the fitness going?

We're getting there. Back in it this morning at 5 a.m. You know how it goes. Atta baby! AJ, you wanted to add on? Oh, Goopy, I got a question about healthcare. If you tore your pec benching with all your steroid buddies, how quick do you get that thing fixed

up there? It takes a bit, but it is free. That's kind of the drawback. Yeah, it is free. Yeah, it is free. But there is a drawback. That's awesome. That's incredible. Universal healthcare.

Way to go, Caleb. It takes two years. Quality's good too. All right, let's go. It is, by the way. This should, I think as a world, we should figure that one out. What's that? That one.

We tried. We should figure that one out. Universal healthcare. Universal healthcare. Yeah, because everybody that points to different countries that are currently doing it, there's always some on the other end like yeah but also much worse kind of than our situation if you have any thing at all because the quality of doctors the time it takes blah blah blah blah blah every time it's brought up that's something that should be figured

out how many bazillions of dollars are being put into whatever can we not figure that one out that feels like one we should figure out if elon just donates 100 billion then each hospital in the world you do the math, gets $1 billion. I don't think there's... I think there's more than 100 hospitals. 100 hospitals in the world? I think there's more than 100 hospitals. Somebody tweeted that.

It was right. You remember that math? No, but I got something done in the States quicker than I ever would here. That's the American difference, baby. Sorry. It fucking sucks. Imaginary line, line too just right down here can't come across uh let's talk about the united states granada we should

i know nothing about it other than it's like an incredibly beautiful country or whatever connor seemed to have done his research he said we should win by 10 to 15 population of a hundred thousand a hundred thousand people if we lose the granada all systems are a problem in couture yeah you can't do that the road kit to tar is not kind if you lose to Granada, all systems are a problem in Qatar? Yeah, you can't do that. The road to Qatar is not kind if you lose that game, my friend. Are they bad? Granada? Yeah, I'd say 4-0

should be the starting point. In these exhibition games, though, Goop, who cares? Why does it matter? All we care about is what they do in Qatar. Yeah, but think about this USA team has never had this full team together they have to learn how to play again with each other chemistry up chemistry okay well is reina not playing and uh they all play on 13 different squads how they're supposed to play together well that's everywhere that's every

team aj it's not just united then why are we not competing with the world we are the world winning okay then what's what is the successful world cup look like for this U.S. team? And don't tell me winning. Like I say, Goop, I can trust you. You're a rational human. What's a successful World Cup run look like for us? Getting out of the group stage. Oh, come on.

That's that Canadian mindset. Did you hear that? Just get out of the group. That's a good group. You know why you got something fixed in America, Quaker? USA, Wales, those are all good teams. Wales, piss off. We love Wales.

People in Wales are probably great people, but follow up what they did to Ukraine. Yeah. Fuck off. You got to win the first game. But Wales is a good team, man. Win one game in the knockout stage. Success.

Yes, quarterfinals at least. Fuck it. We got to win the soccer Lombardi and I ain't talking about it. Or at least take them 98 minutes in the final and lose in PKs. That's a tough group, man. No, it's not.

It's our group. It's a group of deaths because we're in it, pal. Who's the fourth team one less team in it. Who's the fourth team? I forget. Iran. Yeah, Iran. Okay.

Which, by the way, I mean, let's go. This guy's a play. Follow-up. Is Canada even in the World Cup anymore? I don't know. I don't know what's going on there. First time they've ever been worth a shit. Pal, you go back to Canada.

Their team just starts having work stops. What the fuck? They'll lace the boots up again. Here we go. Oh, is there going to be scabs? Sounds like a good barter to me. Scab goop. Is there going to be scabs, though, you think? Have you heard anything up there

about how that'll get settled, or are you not paying attention at all? Yeah, I have no clue, to be honest. I thought they weren't playing. It's got boots on the ground in Canada, with an update on the Canadian soccer holdout situation. How are you doing gambling? I know Diggs was hot on a diamond. Are you getting hotter or colder now that you're back in Canada? Hockey's good.

Ball was good last night. Need the Celtics. Need the Celtics. Here we go. When's that, tomorrow night? Yeah. Who you got, Rangers, Tampa tonight? Ball, 60 minutes.

Come on. I bet the Bulls 25 times to win the Cup throughout the playoffs. They're going to go, huh, you think? God, it has to be. You can't have Rangers-Avalanche final. Come on. Abs of 1-1-8 straight? Is that true?

Series or games? Games. Yeah, the West has kind of been up. Yeah, they're rolling. I mean, how you trot that guy out there every fucking game. The backup's decent. Give him a chance. Oh, you're talking about Mike Smith?

Mike Smith. The guy's 41 years old doing swan dives, firing the puck. Like, give it a rest, dude. He does seem to be on the ice more than most goalies. Yeah. He's kind of flopping around. Yeah, stacking the pads. He always puts his arms up like it's somebody else's fault. I love that. He's a soccer goalies. He's kind of flopping around. He always puts his arms up like it's

somebody else's fault. He's a soccer goalie. NHL goalies normally head down, skate away, pissed off, they come back. Soccer goalies always mad at somebody else. We talked about this. He is a... Oh, that was 41 years of this.

He let one in from the other end and put his arms up like it wasn't his fault. That's how Gary ran. I was supposed to see the fucking thing. What was that? Top shelf, too. It was right over his shoulder. Couldn't see it. Fuck. How about the fucking defenseman or whoever shot that was like, I mean, this guy does kind of stink.

Let's fucking slap him. That's like a high school type situation. Let it eat. I think I could fuck him. You might see one of those go in a year off like a dribbler. Like, it'll hit the ice and take a weird bounce hop

over short. Never all the way in the air like that. On the fly. Yeah. Back of the net. You remember soccer camps? You used to try to hit

the back of the net on the fly or whatever from how far you are. I assume in hockey they do the same thing. That guy does it in the middle of a fucking Stanley Cup playoff game. Yeah.

I think I could hit it on the fly. That fucking guy back there was going to do a handstand. Man, we scored. Goal. He's got to have the record for most goals given up on a playoff run. Has to be. Nah.

Three out of five shots in five minutes and 49 seconds in the third period, which is his last game. First game battle of Alberta. What did he give up? Six in the first? First game of the ass. He gave up eight goals, right? Or did he give up half of them?? First game of the ass, he gave up eight goals, right? Or did he give up half of them?

They just keep skating his ass out there. Tell you what, you put Mike Smith on the pants, though, they're still in the fucking. I doubt it. King Domingue is way better. That guy is so bad. He's 100 times better than Louis Domingue. No.

Mike Smith, Mike Scholl. Now that I know how the starting announcements go after watching biz thing in the in the Oil Kings locker room. Mike Smith has held them hostage this entire playoff run about this being his

last go. Hey, I'm retiring. You're gonna start somebody else in the coach is like starting in net and then he goes to put Mike's my last. I got one more.

He might not be done. He might come back for another run. Joe! The Royal Kings! Maybe Boston. Maybe Vegas. Vegas needs a goalie. Oh, yeah! Maybe Boston or Vegas. We got our guy. Bring him home. Bring him to Vegas. The guy we got fucking

stinks. I'll take Mike Smith's theatrics out there. I'd love it. Now, we do have to say what Mike Smith has faced over the last two months in which we all were introduced to this guy and have seen him play are the best hockey players on earth. This is deep into the playoffs. These are great players. This isn't just, you know. He also had

two of the best players in the world on his team. Well, if they were on the other teams their stats probably would be even higher. Let's go to the phones. Let's go to Juan in New Mexico. Was this? Juan in New Mexico. What is this? What is this? Juan!

I don't know. Juan in New Mexico, what's going on? Have you ever called this show before? Hey, what's up, Pat boys? AJ. Wish the spirit of Lord O'Leary was there with you. Juan, have you called this show before? Juan, have you called this show before?

First time caller, actually. No, I've not called before. Fuck. All right. What do you want to talk about, Juan? Yeah, I just wanted to ask if you were going to be in Albuquerque on the 12th for WWE Live? Is it... What day of the week?

It's going to be on a Sunday, I believe. No go. Sorry about that. Or Saturday. Sorry, sorry, sorry about that. It's a premium live event. Well, if it's a premium live event, I'll be there. It's not a be on a Sunday, I believe. No, go. Sorry about it. Sorry, sorry, sorry about it. It's a premium live event. Well, if it's a premium live event, I'll be there. It's not a premium live event.

It sounds like it's a house show. These are great shows, though. These are what everybody says is like the best shows because people can just do whatever the hell they want. Announcers. All right, all right. Sorry about it, Juan. I didn't want to ask. Sorry about it.

What are you laughing about? What is this? What is this? What are you laughing about? What happened? What is your problem? What happened to Ezekiel? What are you talking about? What do your problem? What happened to Ezekiel? What are you talking about? What was that last night?

He's playing Kevin Owens' game. He's from our school. He's a hustler. Playing possum, dude. Tricked you, dude. Wait, so the brother came back? No. He lied. He did.

He lied. He said, I am Elias. And then, ha, deal was made. And then he goes, I lied to you. I'm Ezekiel. And then he walked out. Fucking owned his ass. Yeah, it was insane.

It was sick. Fucking bamboozled him, hustled him. So is there no Elias then? What? Yes. What are you talking about? Ezekiel is Elias' younger brother. It ain't that hard.

It is, though. No, it's not. It ain't that hard. No, it's not. It ain't that hard. It is. No, it's not. Dang, AJ!

Envision yourself learning this information for the first time at 38 years old. It is somewhat difficult to keep track of. Of what? Ezekiel is Elias' younger brother. All the storylines I'm saying, not just Ezekiel and Elias. You guys obviously throw me off the scent a million times, but whoever is back now between Ezekiel is Elias' younger brother. All the storylines I'm saying, not just Ezekiel and Elias. You guys obviously throw me off the scent a million times, but whoever is back now between Ezekiel and Elias, I just want to see a tag team match with those two guys

to take on anyone in the world. Well, we kind of hope that's the case. The brothers get back in good graces with each other. What's with the strife? Elias disappeared, and now there's a chance that maybe he's jealous of Ezekiel success But Ezekiel has held on hope that Elias will come back and be proud of him. I do believe absolutely right I'd like to see him shred together. Come on play

Yeah, yeah, all right, I'd like to see Elias beat his ass I'm sick of Zeke. You're sick of Zeke? Shut up. I need Elias back. You said you don't like champions. What? You're not a part of Zeke Freak Nation, dude? What?

He lost to KO. Elias would not lose to KO. I'm about to fucking Zeke out on you, brother. You better get the hell out of here. You're Zeke-ing a little bit back there, aren't you? He's Zeke-ing. Yeah, I'm Zeke-ing. He is.

Like a fool. You're a Zeke Freaker. You're not anything around here. I walk with Elias. Catch the Ze fool. You're a Zeke freak or you're not anything around here. I walk with Elias. Catch the Zeke. You can. You can listen to Zeke speak and walk with Elias at the same damn time. Same blood.

Boom. Boom. Same dad? Yes. What do you mean? They're brothers, AJ. Believe it or not, with those names, they are rather Italian. I do believe.

Ezekiel's an Italian. From our town, there's about a 95% chance they are Italian. Ezekiel Giuseppe Santiago Eni. Is that his name? What did you just do? Is that his name? Santiago Eni? Yeah.

This guy. That's his name. You're disgusting. Scum. That's what I thought his name was. Apologize to the boot country, please. Why? Apologize to Ezekiel and Elias' home country.

That's Ezekiel's name, I thought. You're a corner of a potato head. Fucking, you can't be saying that. Whoa, whoa, whoa. That's fine. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Can't say what you just said right there. What are you talking about?

I can't. You can't say what you just said. I'm offended. I called a guy. All right, well, I give you permission to say what you just said. Me too. Anyways, you're a fucking scumbag. No, me too. That's fine. You can't say what you just said. I'm offended. I called a guy. All right, well, I give you permission to say what you just said. Me too. Anyways, you're a fucking scumbag. No, me too.

That's fine. You can say that. Santiago Eaney. Yeah. Can't believe it. Giuseppe Santiago Eaney. Yeah. That's Eaney's name.

And this guy's grandstanding about how good of a guy he is. All the time. All the time. All the time. All the time. I'm never in my grandstanding about anything. I was just saying. Are you not 100% sure now about the thing that we've been talking about

for the last week, that it was definitely Santiago Hini? Yeah. Yeah, yesterday I ate a cookie. It came over me. I'll try to get a little better at pool today, huh? Not true. Exactly. We have the tape from Friday.

Holy shit. And we can run it back if we want. You've come to Baba the Boobity. That's basically what you just did. That's what you've never done that before. Never done that before? Nope. Let's get the phones. Juan in That's what you've never done that before. Never done that before? Nope. Let's get the phones. Juan in New Mexico

really was a jolt of energy there. Thanks for the call. Shout out. Juan's in Chicago? Yes. Let's go to Ben in Phoenix, Arizona. What's going on, Ben? How you doing, pal? On the 5NG phone line. Let's go to 5NG.com. Use promo code

McAfee to receive 10% off your order. How you doing, pal? On the 5RNG phone line. Let's go to 5RNG.com. Use promo code... Pat. McAfee to receive 10% off your order. I'm in there switching. It was Pat Tony. It was Pat Tony. It's no longer 20% off. You fucked it up. Now it's only 10% off, and that's on your ass. You need 5RNG, too.

What's going on, Ben, in Phoenix, Arizona? Pat and the boys. What is good? Bro, your call. I can already tell. Yeah. What's going on, Ben? Right.

Dude, chilling, man. So I'm a Cardinals season ticket holder. I just wanted to call you and have a couple questions. You know, after the draft, a Card fans called his part. Tom, Tom. And so Steve, Tom, you know, hopefully he's going to get some other big free agents. You know, we already got J.J. Watt. But, you know, Optimus Prime is out for six games,

so we need some more weapons. You know, Cliff, all he wants to do is surround Kyler with all the weapons. So I see, notice Odell Beckham playing Call of Duty with K-1 over here. And then I look on another thing, he's still in with Devin Booker out in Scottsdale. Is there a possible Odell Beckham coming to the Cardinals? I know I personally want some O-line, but that's above my pay grade. I will say, boys, we love you out here in Arizona. We love AJ.

You're the man. If you guys ever came out here and did a live show over the weekend, you guys would sell out, man. I'm telling you. We love you out here. Thanks for always repping Arizona. I'm Coyotes, sons, Diamondbacks. We love you guys, man. Thank you. Thank you, man. I'm telling you. We love you out here. Thanks for always repping Arizona. I'm caught. Coyotes, Suns, Diamondbacks. We love you guys, man.

Thank you. Thank you, Ben. Let me know whatever you think, man. Thank you, Ben. We appreciate that. I love his optimism, by the way, that he has about all the Arizona teams. Coyotes are dead, right? That team's dead? Yeah. You could probably go sell out the arena they're playing in next season.

The Suns, I hope. About 5,000 people, right? If anybody buys a ticket for anything we do in the future, I mean, waste of money, but we'll try to get you a good deal on it. But the cards in the Suns feels like for, what, the next five years at least are going to be very, very, very into this. And the story came out via I Am Athlete tonight, which is on SiriusXM. Brandon Marshall was in SiriusXM studio,

I believe in LA. Sean McVay came on the show and chatted about Odell Beckham Jr. crashed his wedding. Yeah, that's right. Odell Beckham Jr., one of the players who was not invited to the wedding because he had to make this massive decision after years and years and years of coaching

and relationships. He decided only the captains of the team and a couple of veterans that he has good relationships with. And then, boom, Odell Beckham Jr. showed up. And Sean McVay's mom even said, oh, he's much more handsome in person, isn't he? Kind of took a little run at OBJ.

And Sean McVay then alluded to the fact, if you're going to crash my wedding, you're going to come back and play for us next year. But at that wedding, Cliff Kingsbury was there. Odell Beckham Jr. is at the wedding. I don't know if Odell Beckham Jr. with the knee is out on dance floor. Cliff was never on the dance floor Cliff might have been in the back operating

Is Cliff going to poach OBJ straight out of McVay's wedding That OBJ crash TBD it sounds like Arizona would love it Matt LaFleur is also there Maybe Odell is chatting with him About going to Green Bay LaFleur was sober sitting in a corner His wife was the one having a good time

As well as Schrager told us. Well, Arizona's already got a pretty stacked room. Hit the dance floor, lad. Let's go. You think OBJ was on dance floor, maybe? Or are you talking about LeFleur? LeFleur, what are we doing? Well, he's skipping some sort of something.

They have practice next day. Roger wasn't even there yet. I think he probably had a couple cocktails. Six, seven. You think LeFleur got pretty tuned up at that wedding, AJ? I hope he didn't. I hope he had a good time. I hope he did, too. But also,Fleur got pretty tuned up at that wedding, AJ? I hope he did. I hope he had a good time. I hope he did, too.

But also, I hope he gets one of the Super Bowls. I mean, the dance floor, he's probably got – some NFL coaches are probably a little gun-shy when it comes to the dance floor. It doesn't work out for every coach. What are you saying? Well, we know one guy who was coaching. All of a sudden, he decided to go to the dance floor, and then he looks back afterwards and says,

shouldn't have gone to the dance floor. He's not there anymore. Wild, wild west over there in Ohio. Finger gun city. Wasn't a wedding. He was supposed to be there. With his kids. Well, that guy should have been on a plane back home with his team.

But instead he had to see his babies. That's right. That's right. And a few other people. Maybe a 22, 23-year-old. All right. He's got a pretty good little dance move on my bar that I made. Hey, I laid this wood that you're dancing on.

Hey, speak it up. All right. Thank you, Gumpy. We appreciate the hell out of you. OBJ, though, is still a free agent, as is Julio Jones and others. A lot of weapons out there. July is the Deshaun decision, is what we're told by Albert Breer from the NFL.

In about two weeks, we'll learn about Baker and Jimmy. Carolina, Seattle are in that game. Gumpy, we appreciate you, pal. Did you guys hang up on him? Yeah. What about? Well, it's not as bad as what the government did to him. Yeah, sure.

Colts are going to have to score a lot more points now. So maybe you guys go get him. Colts are going to have to score a lot more points now. So maybe you guys go get them. I mean, best defensive players have back surgery today. That's probably not good. Breaking news. It has come out of mandatory minicamp for the Indianapolis Colts day one.

Darius Leonard had back surgery today. That's not good. Was this something that was building? And is this because he was at OTAs? And did he get hurt at OTAs? I hope it didn't happen at OTAs. I would be so pissed if this happened at OTAs.

I do not know. I saw the tweet come through in the group text. I did not get to read into it as much because we've been doing a show. But what did happen? Update from the Colts on star linebacker darius leonard no second surgery on his ankle but he has been having back issues that require surgery operation is today he'll miss some camp time but the team's expectation is he's ready for the regular season i hope so jesus here

we go they wait so long it had to have just happened if he's waiting until june or he probably thought he could rehab it without surgery uh this is from coach frank reich talking to the media today it this might have been a Michael Thomas situation down in New Orleans. Thought you could rehab it, thought you could rehab it, thought you could rehab it. Then you get to the date where, hey, if we're not seeing any actual progression, we need to do surgery

so then we'll rehab it and do it this way. He is not going to need a second procedure on the ankle, but he is not here. However, he did have a procedure done on his back earlier today. Let's get ahead of it and not let it progress further says olivia ray of wish tv via frank reich's press conference from the first day of mandatory minicamp that's obviously terrible news yeah said he'll miss some camp time luckily it's not they're not predicting he'll miss any regular season games yet at least maybe we don't i mean there's no minor right yeah yeah and that

statement also wasn't like uh we don't think he it wasn't like an actual timeline they're putting on that and you're with to your point backs can creep up like that right like gronk has been dealing with a back for brutal it's never the same and he flies that guy flies around and hits people oh no plus from hard knocks too His ankle looked really fucked up. So the ankle's good. That's what we think. Why wouldn't you get another ankle surgery right now if you're already going to go under?

I guess he wasn't at OTAs because of his ankle. So maybe he was rehabbing. Who said he wasn't there because of his ankle? We'll find out. Did he have surgery right after the season on his ankle? Maybe. He said no second surgery needed, so when did the first happen?

But if publicly they were saying it's because of the ankle, but actually it was because of the back, that's two different stories. If they were saying it's because of the ankle, and then it comes out that it's because of the back, that quotes line, what the fuck? It could be both. If your ankle is hurt, you know your body compensates in other ways. That definitely could have something to do with his back.

Yeah, that's what I was worried about with his knee, by the way, with the hip and the back potentially. Well, this is why you add to the D-line, you add to the secondary, just in case Ngakwe and Gilmore can pick up the slack in the other parts of the defense. I get it picking up the slack, but it's like this was supposed to be our year. We got a Navy SEAL at the quarterback. He's yelling at everybody. Now the maniac defense player,

the year-type player, getting back surgery on June 7th. June 7th. His first ankle surgery was before training camp last year. That's right, because he missed some of camp. He came on our show during an off day right after he signed a big deal. I remember. So who was reporting

that he was missing training camp because of the ankle? Looks like him himself. Oh, no. Oh, no. Jesus Christ. Good run. You mean missing OTAs because of his ankle? Yeah.

So that means they're trying not to talk about the back maybe, or maybe the back wasn't something until it flared up. They might have not known. Maybe they didn't know it was that serious and just kept getting a little bit worse. Yeah, maybe the back flared up or something. Here flared up. They might have not known. Maybe they didn't know it was that serious and just kept getting a little bit worse. Yeah, maybe the back flared up or something. Here we go again. Darius Leonard underwent a procedure on his back, an issue that arose in the offseason.

He saw a surgeon out west. Reich said, not sure on the timetable now, but in my mind, as long as he's ready for the regular season, I'm not concerned. Via Olivia Ray of Wish TV. Amen, Frank. Listen, this is a no story. He'll be back for the regular season.

Okay. He's not concerned. He's okay. If Darius Leonard's not worried and Frank Reich's not worried, a no story. He'll be back for the regular season. Okay. He's not concerned. He's okay. If Darius Leonard's not worried and Frank Reich's not worried, neither am I. There you go. You have no reason to be worried. Not at all. I can tell you're not.

Not at all. Back surgery, no big deal. Those things are just easy peasy. Just another Tuesday. We'll be back tomorrow. How many days until the season starts, Connor? 93. Okay.

That's plenty of time. Plenty of time. AJ. For a back surgery? Yeah. Darius That's plenty of time. Plenty of time. AJ. For a back surgery? Yeah. There is Leonard. Bro, backs are not good.

That's not good. There's so many. You know, because the head bone is connected to the neck bone. And then the neck bone is connected to just the back bone. Right. And it's just your entire. There's so much to it. And then everything, especially when you're striking and everything. Like, your back is just so vital you see people get back issues and it's just like oh you have a new life now but you

had a t4 t5 that you came back from pretty quickly so maybe he will too yeah i was just talking to mike for that was more of a neck though yeah that's actually a t4 i was t2 i didn't have to hit anybody either i was just i mean three months a real injury, even if he's out for two hours. Whoa! Holy shit! Did you see the neck brace? Fucking asshole, dude. Sorry, what were you going to say?

I mean, 93 days, three months. If he's out for eight weeks, it's still going to take him a little bit to ramp back up into football. He'll be fine. He doesn't need camp. He's always in shape. He's always in shape. He didn't do camp last year much. Yeah, near to Carson.

They didn't make the playoffs. Anyways, let's wrap it up with this as we get out of here. And this has been a really good show today. Hell yeah. Three hours and 46 minutes here we're going. Hell yeah. Pretty good. Four deaths for a Tuesday, June 7th.

Not bad. Pretty proud of us today. Hell yeah. Pretty proud of us today. Here we go. Let's go. We're going to Paris. We're going to play blackjack with Dana White.

Yeah. Let's go. Let's end the show with a bang. Okay. Here we go. Hey, you know those things they're putting on helmets to keep everybody safe that you absolutely hate? Mike Tomlin's wearing one, so none of the boys can bitch if Tomlin's wearing it.

You know that? Steelers wore the Guardian caps for day one of minicamp, including Coach Tomlin. Coach said after practice, it's a new rule. It's for their safety. We're going to make it a non-issue for us and focus on our work. Mike Tomlin said, I'll even wear one of these fucking guardian caps nobody can breathe out of. All these college kids have been doing this for the last couple of years. I guess there's a couple NFL teams that have done it as well.

The OGs are going to take a while to adjust to it, I believe personally. But the rules is the rules. We're not going to live in our fears. We vehemently admit that we are about the people's safety. And Mike Tomlin said, I'll wear one of these as well We're running my head. Is this a video just a photo? Can we zoom in on Tomlin if it's a photo? Play the video I got certain music off

He's on the right side there zoom in looking at me. He's wearing the gray He's got his guardian on just case anybody think shit isn't sweet He says if anybody wants any I'll run this baseball cap with a guardian cap on top of it right into your sternum if you got a little bit of a problem. AJ, you love this. I know you love this. Let's buy into the new science and the modern science.

Let's keep players safe just like Tomlin's doing. Oh, yeah. Mike Tomlin is obviously a great leader, and that is why he is doing this because he knows he has, I don't know, maybe a good chunk of vets or different people on the team that will show up and not be wearing that thing. So he's like, hey, I'm't know, maybe a good chunk of vets or different people on the team that will show up and not be wearing that thing. So he's like, hey, I'm going to wear this day one.

We all know what this is. I'm going to wear it. Stop asking me about it. Let's just focus on football. I actually give him credit for this. I respect it. It also could be him just gassing up the boys. Everybody bitching about it.

Oh, look how comfortable this thing is. There's a lot of shit talk that could potentially come from him wearing the Guardian cap as opposed to everybody else. I love it, though. Anything Mike Tomlin does, I'm on board with because of his track record and the fact that everybody seems to fucking love playing for him. Thank you, Coach. Thank you, Coach. He's the man. I agree.

I concur. He should come back on the show sometime. He should. I would like him to wear that Guardian cap. Yeah, we need to get some, though. We need some Guardian caps. We'll wear them when he comes on. Ooh, yeah.

I might just wear a Mysterious mask. I don't know if we'll have a Guardian cap in time. We'll get to it. We'll figure it out. Yeah, maybe. All right, that's the show. We appreciate you, AJ. Thank you, boys.

You did great. Albert Breer, Dana White, Darrell Rivas, Ian Rappaport. What a day. That's a Tuesday. Hope life is great. Let's do a giveaway. Big day today. PMS. Hashtag PMS.

What was today? In Paris. Minicamp. PMS Bonjour. Nah, that's too much. Then we're definitely committing to it. We need to be able to back out of this if we have to. We can't commit too much. If we commit too much, there's be able to back out of this if we have to. That's a good point. We can't commit too much.

If we commit too much, there's no way to back out of that eight, nine-hour flight. Revis? PMS Granada sucks at soccer. Whoa. Wow, that's a little aggressive. The game's not until Friday. Okay.

Maybe PMS Revis Island. PMS Island? PMS Island. PMS Island. Whoa, that kind of sounds like Lexi. Yeah. Yeah. We talked about that earlier today. Granada as well. Yeah, that kind of sounds like Lexi. Yeah. We talked about that earlier.

Yeah, because Granada is an island. PMS Rivas Island. Yeah. Hashtag. Do that. Take a screenshot right now. No. Whoa.

Whoa. What is that? Son of a bitch. Who'd you steal that from? You stole it from our office? No. What do you mean? I tell you, things just show up at my door.

What the hell is that? How'd you get that? What the hell is happening? Whoa. Whoa. Yours isn't 32 pounds. Yours is fake. Respect it, dude.

Don't do that. I am. That's why I'm trying to hold it up here for the picture. Don't do that to baby Lordo. How'd you get a Baby Lordo? Don't worry about it. Should I put it right here? You can't even hold the goddamn thing.

That's a fake. That's a fake Baby Lordo. That's not 35 times. That's a fake Baby Lordo. What do you mean? Put it away. That's what I thought. Take a screenshot.

Don't. No. You son of a bitch. No. So good. No dirt in this one either. Hashtag PMS Rivas Island. Say something nice to somebody.

Put your cash tag in there. Be one of 10 winners of $599. Thanks for ruining Baby Lordo, AJ, with your fake one. What'd you do? Did you 3D print that? Where's yours? Don't worry about it. I feel like you probably stole it.

They're just handing out these titles and Lordos to everybody. Yeah, I don't love that. I thought we earned it. You earned it, AJ. Hey, you earned it. Way to go. Thank you. See you guys tomorrow.

Hashtag PMS Rivas Island. Say something nice to somebody. Put your hashtag in there and a screenshot from the show. You're the best. See you guys tomorrow. Hashtag PMS Rivas Island. Say something nice to somebody. Put your hashtag in there and a screenshot from the show. You're the best. See you tomorrow. Well, well, Darius Leonard just tweeted. Yeah, I would like. Surgery went well.

Feeling amazing and ready to get back going. If you know me, you know I always come back way better than I was. Let's go, man. Ankle feels amazing and can't wait to get back moving. Thanks for the text and the call. So here we go. Here we go. We're good.

We're good. He's back. He's back. Put the Lord out of the way. We're good, man. I'm glad to hear Darius is doing all right. Me too. I fucking love Darius.

I hate that you have a fake Fugaze baby Lord over here. It's bullshit. We'll be back tomorrow with more of an investigation in the stolen valor of AJ 3D printing a baby Lord that we earned to have here in the office. See you guys tomorrow. Thanks, AJ. Thanks for everything. Thank you.

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