The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 685 - Brian Urlacher IN STUDIO, General Bob Carpenter, Trent Brown, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: June 15, 2022

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about the new development that Gumpy could potentially be getting married to Lisa Ann, the Stanley Cup Finals tonight and what we should be looking for, loose news floating around in the NFL, and a US Open preview. Joining the progrum in studio is Hall of Famer, 2005 Defensive Player of the Year, 12x All-Pro, 8x Pro Bowler, member of the 2000's All Decade Team, Brian Urlacher to chat about his NFL career, his thoughts on the game today, if he's ever considered getting into commentary, what he's up to now, his new company Ludex, what sets apart the good and great players, and much more in an incredible convo (0:00-52:02). Next, The General, Bob Carpenter, joins Pat and AJ to chat about his debacle of a night at the Coldplay concert in Tampa Bay, the power being out in Columbus, and whether or not Ohio State's championship hopes rest on his shoulders (1:11:36-1:29:43). Later, Super Bowl Champion, Pro Bowler, Right Tackle for the New England Patriots, Trent Brown joins the show to chat about what makes New England different, his career path, if anyone on a football field has ever been bigger than him, his relationship with Mac Jones and Bill Belichick, and more (1:29:45-1:47:11). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show, and listen on Sirius XM Channel 82, Mad Dog Radio. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people. It is a colossal day in this program's history. It is Wednesday, June 15th, and we shall... Let's ride. We're not doing that anymore. What? No, we can't. We've been doing it for three years now.

It's already worn out. It's welcome there. Russell Wilson stole it from us and obviously started doing it with the Denver Broncos. But nonetheless, today is a massive day. Not just because we have General Bob Carpenter in the second hour. Or the 6'8", 380-pound tackle from the New England Patriots, Trent Brown, joining us in the third hour. Obviously, that's huge. A.J. Hawk will be here in about an hour or so.

But joining myself and the talk show table at Ty Schmidt at Boston Corner. And one half of the hammer down Cowboys tone dicks. Cowboy hat looks good today. A lot of people were talking yesterday he took the hat off intermittently shut off the flow a little bit. People haven't seen your face without a fucking hat on it for like a year or so. I didn't know about this. Good to know.

Hey, good flow. Speaking of good flow, there was a long time where this man was not known for that, but now all of a sudden his hair is impeccable. He's obviously a Hall of Famer, a fucking stud. Whenever his name is said around football communities, they say, what a fucking freak show that guy was. Now he's a five handicap.

Used to be a two handicap, so this guy fucking stinks at golf. An absolute specimen, a former safety for the University of New Mexico. The University of New Mexico. The University of New Mexico. Sorry about it. First ever Hall of Famer in the studio. One of the co-founders of Ludex, one of the new collectible Ludex, sorry, Ludex sports cards thing that is going to be,

I think, very, very popular. I love the Ludex, though. Well, Ludex is even better. Hey, roll Ludex. Is that why? That's probably why you did Luddex. Roll Luddex. Roll Luddex.

Because it's a Luddex of all your cards digitally, so you know how much they're worth. And you can buy and share and talk. We'll dive into it. Ladies and gentlemen, Brian Erlich. Thanks for having me in, P-A-T. Hey, thank you, B-R-I-A-N, dude. This is, when you walked in here, you looked. What's going on back there? Yeah, yeah. Hey, Zito's from Chicago. Oh, I know. Zito's in. I know that. Oh, dude. This is, when you walked in here. What's crazy going on back there?

Yeah, yeah. Hey, Zito's from Chicago. Oh, I know. Zito's in. I know that. Oh, yeah. We've been talking to him. Zito talked to Caruso last week, and he told Caruso he killed Grayson Allen.

Is there anybody you'd take out for Erlacher here? Anybody that tries to attack Brian. Anybody. You got him? Yes. Outside. Homeless guy. Tries to get Brian.

Dead. At the airport. TSA. Tries to get Brian. Cry chop. Dead. Don't, tries to get Brian. Dead. At the airport, TSA, tries to get Brian. Cry chop. Dead. Don't mess with him. Anyways. Hey, thank you for joining us here. Thanks for having me.

I appreciate it. Thank you for making a trip to Indianapolis. Yes. It's been a fun couple days for me. Where's home right now? Arizona. Okay. Did you know you were going to live there?

How did you end up in Arizona? The weather. You know, I started in off seasons when you live in a cold ass place like Chicago. Yes. You try and find places to go warm. I grew up in New Mexico. And then about after my third year, I started figuring out, hey, guys leaving the off season? I was like, I don't have to be here all year round.

So I went to Arizona. I was like, I'm staying here. That's the way. You still keep up with the game? Yeah, like I'm a huge football fan. You know what's really fun about football now is I can bet on it. Yes, in Arizona, too. Fucking great.

Yeah. How are you as a gambler? Pretty good? Pretty good gambler? I'm definitely not good at gambling. No, I'm not. Who is? Fuck, it's so hard.

It is impossible. You think, like, I think I should know some shit? I don't. When it comes to betting, it's impossible. Well, that's the thing. Like, whenever I was in the league, you know, I have a lot of Italian friends. Yes. Okay?

And I don't want to just paint with a broad brush here on the paisans. No. But I do believe that has been part of their culture for a long time. Possibly. So, like, when I would hear what they were doing and gambling on, I'm like, man, I don't think people in our locker room know what the fuck's going to happen this week. I don't know how you guys are predicting it. And I think we've experienced that now that we're trying to bet on games.

Like, oh, I got a good, this team's going to do this. We don't have a fucking clue. We have no idea. And you know, when I played, I was, they'd be like, someone would be like, hey, I got a good, this team's going to do this. We don't have a fucking clue, Brian. We have no idea. And you know, when I played, I would be like, someone would be like, hey, you're plus three this week. And I'm like, what the fuck does that mean? Plus three, I don't know what that means. You know, and then the first, after I retired,

I was like, look at these bets. I'm like, so you start out three points ahead. Yes. I had no idea. Now I got it figured out. But figured out real good. But it's impossible to know. And the lines, I don't understand how they make them so precise.

Yeah. They're so close. Time trailers. How? Time trailers. Every week. Time trailers. Oh, that's it.

I don't want to get into it. I want to be ahead of time for a little bit. Yeah, well, I think you could be. Just for one Sunday. Hall of Famer in the NFL? Absolutely, you could be. Go out there. Yeah.

What do you need? You only need four games, too. Travel one week. That's it. That's right. That's all you need. That'll change the entire season for you. Yes, that's it.

Do you look at the game now like all the old heads do? Because I believe you're a player that was great in the helmet-to-helmet era, and I think you would be able to fit in just – they're looking for Brian Urlacher's right now at the linebacker position. I'm too big. No, no, you can fly, though. That's all that matters. Yeah, well, now the game's built on speed.

You know, the running game is not the same. Now they run little bubble passes, the short passes for the running game. And the linebackers now are all so damn fast. They're all 4'5". And I was a 4'5 guy for most of my career. The last couple years

I may not have been. But, you know, there's no really big inside linebackers anymore. The outside guys, obviously, are probably my size, 6'4", 255. But the inside guys

are 6'0", 6'1", 225, and they can all fly. It's all safeties, right? Almost like a safety body. Yes, they move them down. Which is what you exactly were, right? Yeah, I was a safety in high school and college. Punt returner?

Yes. Not a good one, but I could catch the ball. I did feel the ball in my head. I had a great move. Run straight every time. How big were you in high school? Did you grow late? In high school, I was skinny ass.

I graduated 6'4", 190. Graduated college 6'4", 245. I'm sorry, finished college 6'4", 245. I'm sorry, finished college 6'4", 245. I participated in college. I graduated, but I finished at 6'4", 245, 245, something like that. Where are you right now? 250.

Oh, really? When I left home, I was 243. Yeah, good one. I'm probably 260 right now. Walked in with the five guys. I love food, man. I don't give a shit. I love food. I'm probably 260 right now. Walked in with the five guys. I love food, man. I don't give a shit. I love food. I'm not going to change the way I eat until I have to.

I love food. So what do you do to stay in shape? You start riding? Ride your bike. Ride my bike. That is it. I ride a mountain bike, my road bike, my gravel bike. And if we're lifting, I'm major lifting.

Push-ups and sit-ups. And that's it. All day, every day? No, I do. So I ride my bike, come home, do a few sets of push-ups. How many? How many are you doing? So I do

my first set is like 80 to 90 if I can get that far. Set? Just straight through? Just straight through. 6'5", 250? Well, I don't I can't bend my wrist

so I do them on an incline so it's not all the way. It's not a full push-up. I mean, it is a push-up. My son does them on a decline. He puts his feet on the bench and does it the other way. I can't do that.

How old is your kid? He's 17. Butler? He's good. He's got off from Iowa. Here we go. And what did he say? Go Hawks.

Kirk Dawes, baby. One first set, 80 to 90. Not to just bypass that. Good luck to the Hawks. Good luck to Earl Atkinson. 80 to 90 the first set. And then I'll do some abs in between. You know, some little weird stuff. Crunches, whatever. Then I do another set. Try to I do 80 or 90 the first set, and then I'll do some abs in between, some little weird stuff, crunches, whatever.

Then I do another set, try to get to 80 or 90 again. And then I'll clean up some poop from the cows and the donkeys, get my chest to rest, do some more abs, and then we'll do one more set. I'll probably get to 65 or 70 on the last one. Every day? No, every other day. I ride my bike five days a week if I can, maybe six if I get that sixth day in. And then it depends on what my golf schedule is.

Far? Here's my goal for the year i'm trying to average 500 miles a month so 6 000 miles on the year are you like addicted to it you think you had to find something yes so golf is my competitive thing and biking just like because i'll throw my headphones on and just pedal it's fucking great man the mountain's great because it's different than the road. It's like therapy, honestly. I just go out there and pedal. It's fun. It's hot as shit right now in Arizona, so I lose like 10 pounds of bike ride. Yeah, you can walk outside right now.

I can eat whatever I want. Hey, welcome back to humidity. Yeah. I was just in Florida, too. I like Florida humidity because of the water, but I don't like Midwest humidity. Yeah, because you have no ocean to look at. It's just different. It's hot, man.

Oh, so it's just a thick sauna with no real view. Yeah. No bingo. Great. But it is warm in the Midwest, so we're happy. Yeah, we are. It's just different. It's hot, man. Oh, so it's just a thick sauna with no real view. Yeah, bingo. But it is warm in the Midwest, so we're happy. Yeah, we are. It's better than cold. It's better than cold. You like it. You get to venture back to Chicago much? Obviously, you spent a long

I'm actually going back this weekend. What is the relationship like with the Bears? New staff, new GM, new everything. Yeah. I did speak to the new head coach, Eber Flus. I like him. Did he call you? Yeah, he got a hold of me.

He doesn't call you. You pissed? No. I don't get the personal shit. You don't give a fuck. I don't care, man. You do whatever you need to do to win, do that. That's what I think they should do.

Whatever it takes for you to win, do that. If it's calling me, great. If it's not, don't give a shit. But he did reach out to me. I said, hey, we got to do some good things. And I like his lineage. Rob Marinelli, he comes from that brand of football, which I know they're going to play hard as shit on defense.

Which is good. But, yeah, I don't really watch a lot of their games. So I live in Arizona. We don't get a lot of Bears games. I'm not sitting there searching, oh, where are the Bears? Where are the Bears? So I grew up a Cowboys fan. We get a lot of Cowboys games down there.

I like that. Do you and Jerry know each other pretty well or no? I don't know him well, but I've met him a few times. I like him. He's great. What a driver for the league that guy is. Oh, man. He just knows what he's doing. $77 million every home game. What? Yeah. That's a lot of bread. Well, we found that out whenever COVID

happened. If anybody who was unvaccinated was the reason for the spread of COVID and it canceled a game. The team would have to pay the other team whatever amount is normally made on game day. Jerry Jones was at the top, $77 million every home game. That's a lot of cake.

Good for him. So much business. Hey, the NFL business right now. And I'm pumped that you're in Lud-X because I love that you're a businessman here. They're awesome. But sports are only going like this right now so I did trading cards as a kid

I was cool you know I had a couple trading cards but I never knew how much those things were worth you know everyone someone tells you like oh that's a badass car it's worth $8 and I'm like really?

I'm so rich you know as a kid $8 you're like holy shit $0.08 you just don't know this app will tell you exactly how much the card's worth which is

I appreciate that now but yeah the sports is unbelievable, dude. And it verifies the cards, I believe. No, no. That's what I do, man. We're going through the website right now. I believe it'll verify the card. You can have your entire collection on there.

If people are looking for it, they can reach out to you to even buy it, I believe. It's like a fucking... It's legit, man. It is everything you could possibly want. It's going to organize your whole collection for you. But more importantly, tell you how much it's worth. That's what I give a shit about about i want to know how much my

card is worth and like this the state it's in i don't know but it's it's badass so nfts were trying to come in and really kick cards out and then all of a sudden everybody was like wait a minute i don't know if this is and it almost thrusted actual cards i think and this is just as somebody that does not collect i'm just looking from outside and have to have like a baseline of shit that's going on. Yeah. Feels like with the downfall of NFTs, some NFTs, not all NFTs, NFT people don't fucking come after me. All right. I don't understand it.

I understand. But for the people that do tell me 99% of them are shit. 1% of them is good. Yeah. But I think the actual cards regained like a lot of value through that entire process because people got interested in it. Oh, this is business. Once that fell off. Oh, here's a business that's been around for a long time in cards so it's almost like perfect timing for a lot of examples and during COVID I guess I was just at a trade indie trading cards over here I don't know if it's I think it's the name of the place

we were just there and um the guy was like during COVID we the industry took back off again he said it went crazy because I for a while there was kind of you know you know, you probably signed autographs when you played, too. You know, you go to these trading card shops, you sign autographs for a couple hours. It wasn't that big of a deal for a while. It just took back off again. Well, now that we can get out and do stuff again, too, it helps. Zito, what's your question for Mr. O'Leary?

Oh, no, apparently that store had a Jordan card that was worth over, like, $2 million or some shit. Yes. There was some badass Jordan stuff. His whole countertop bar has over a thousand Jordan trading cards on it. Yeah, I saw you doing a break, a card break, and you were just looking

for a Tom Brady. I've never done it. Dude, I just did one at that store. They're unbelievable. How'd you do it? Was there Jordan in there? No, we did football. Micah Parsons. Oh, here we go. Hey, listen. I think this whole entrepreneurialism spirit that every young generation kid seems to have now because everybody understands that they can be an entity of themselves

with social media, which is great. By the way, this is very good news. If you can employ yourself and live for yourself and work for yourself, I think it's immediate accountability. But with kids learning about cards and NFTs and all this, if I hang on to this one now, you're almost learning future earnings and patience.

I think this is great for all parties, what's happening with this generation. How about the NILs in college? Holy shit. How do you feel about that? Your kid's going to get involved in this. He might. I think it's good.

I was always an advocate for the kids getting paid because that way the NCAA wouldn't make all the money. But it's kind of the schools with the most money, they're going to get the best players. Don't they already? They do already, but now it's really going to happen. Like, you know, the Texas A&M's, the Bama's, the schools, the house state. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

You're taking shots at both Saban and Jimbo. I'm not taking shots at them. No, those two are fighting each other. I know. You might be the one. You might be the one that brings them together. I thought it was great, but it's true, though. I mean, now it's just legally paying these guys, which they should have been getting paid the whole damn time

because they make all the money for their schools and for the NCAA, the crooks that are making money off all these kids. Oh, you and me feel the same way about it. Are we? Yeah, yeah. They're in town here, too. Yes. Oh, yeah.

Headquarters. I bet you see them at dinner and stuff. You talk to the guys? No. By the way, I, too. Yes. Oh, yeah. Headquarters. Red Button has all. I bet you see them at dinner and stuff. You talk to the guys? No. By the way, I don't go anywhere. Me neither. I'm a homebody, too.

Boom. Home, work, home, work. Maybe not so much the work part for me, but yeah, definitely home. You've been on the road here promoting. Well, I was fishing a couple days. Yeah. How do you, what is retirement like? You're just kind of chilling?

I love it. So when I shut it down, I was like, I'm going to not try not to do anything for as long as I can until I get bored. There are some days I'm like, what the fuck am I going to do today? Because you can only ride your bike so far and golf so much. You've got to take some days off. So I do spend some days on the couch just funneling with the damn remote, messing with the dogs. But, man, I'm enjoying it. I don't know.

I don't get too bored. Miss the camaraderie? I miss that. I miss my teammates. I miss the coaches. You know what I miss, and you probably can attest to this, is the I'm enjoying it. I don't know. I don't get too bored. Miss the camaraderie? I miss that. I miss my teammates. I miss the coaches. You know what I miss, and you probably can attest to this, is the people in the building. Yes.

Not the players, not the coaches. Equipment room, training room. Training room, equipment guys, the guys who take care of the field, the video guys. I eat lunch in the video room every day of my whole career. I go in there. I get my lunch. I go sit there.

Me, Olin, Garza, Brad Maynard, Patrick Mann, we go sit and eat lunch in Dean's office every day. I miss that shit, man, just being around the same people all the time. And that's what I missed when I retired. The teammates, yeah, yeah, but all the people that you're with for 13 years with the same people every day, gone. You don't see them anymore. Ever.

Ever. I mean, you see them when you go back and stuff. But it is like they have vastly different relationships like that. Yes, it changes overnight. You're like, damn, I didn't realize how much I like those people. And when you catch up with them, it's just like you fall right back into it. But the NFL is so interesting because I'm in WWE now. Yes, I know.

Very lucky to be in WWE. And I get to see the way they operate and work. And, like, they'll do, you know, people get cut from the company. Yeah. And the reaction from the fans and from the company is like oh they do that what is this all about and i think i'm just so numb to it because i eat lunch with a guy for literally six months straight this guy is covering a kick for me we are very our businesses our lives depend on each other we have lunch after lunch i'll never see that motherfucker again he was cut just because

somebody else got hurt he's gone we'll get a text a couple of texts we'll run into each other hopefully at like a wedding or something. I'll never see him again. So I think we become kind of immune to that entire thing. But whenever you're done, everybody's gone. Everyone's gone. It's like, oh, man. You realize how much of a business it really is on the day-to-day shit with the cuts.

Like you'll literally be practicing with a guy one day who'll be in your meeting room. And you're like, next day, you're like a different guy. I'm like, what happened to him? What's his name? What is it? 56. What was his name? I just got his number two days ago. Where did he go? I thought he was pretty good.

Did we not think that guy was good? He wasn't that good, huh? Okay, all right. It's crazy how fast the overturn is. And during season, even during season, I get it because now they have more bodies on each team, right? They have bigger practice squads. So they can, you know, maybe you get used to some guys more often.

But it is a fascinating thing because whenever everybody leaves the NFL, normally, and I want to get your point of view on this, and I've said this a lot to a lot of retired guys. Just talk to Darrell Rivas about this. He's good. Is he in the Hall of Fame yet? No, he's coming up. Is he eligible?

I think he's coming up. Gotcha. Next two years, right? Yeah, I think he's going in. Is he eligible? I think he's coming up. Gotcha. Next two years, right? Yeah, I think he's going in. Got to. He's a fucking island. You would think. Well, you know who votes on that?

We're not voting on that. See, I thought all Hall of... By the way, first time Hall of Famer in studio. Yeah. Thank you. That is worth saying again. Thank you for coming in here.

Wish you were brought to go jacket. You should have told me. No, no. We didn't fucking know. As the show was starting, we didn't know you were first. I only wear it on on request i only take it to places if someone requests i'm like i'll bring it in this humidity we could have never done in this humidity we'll call you back

i wouldn't worry until i got in here yeah yeah that's good decision well and then you walked in here there was a little skunk spray too that would have gone off weird smell yeah uh no but i thought hall of famers were the ones voting on that whole thing. That's not the way it goes. You are incorrect. It's the media. It's the sports writers. Just like the NBA and baseball, it's the sports writers.

The guys who played their whole lives and played the game, high school, college, NFL, they vote. Not. Guys who never play the game are the ones who vote on whether or not these guys who retired. I'm going to give you one guy who I cannot. This pisses me off. Zach Thomas. How the fuck is Zach Thomas not in the Hall of Fame? Put his stats up with mine, Ray, any other linebacker who's even close to Hall of Fame or been in the Hall of Fame.

He's right there with us, if not better. Why is he not in anything? Maybe because he's 5'10". I don't know. I have no idea. I don't know. I don't get it. It pisses me off.

Every year I advocate for him to get in. And he was the finalist a couple years, but they don't put him know. I don't get it. It pisses me off. Every year I advocate for him to get in, and he was the finalist a couple years, but they don't put him in. I don't understand it. So we can do a follow-up with this, I guess, and I didn't expect to have this conversation. No, no, don't worry about it. This is good news. People are learning things right now.

Yes. So awards that happen, right? I'm a big proponent because of how many I've lost, I think. This is why. Yeah. I think it's because of the amount of awards I've won. Screwed you. Like even back in high school. I mean, this is high school. I mean, this is why yeah i think it's because the amount of awards like even back

to the high school i mean this is high school i mean this is the entire thing accumulation where i i've had to reframe awards in my mind and it's almost like i'm jaded by him but it's real like when somebody gets an award i think it's awesome i think it's warranted like congratulations but we should also immediately look at who's voting voting who's voting for the award because that they're the ones deciding so do we give a fuck what their opinion is or not? Like that is something we have to, I'm not saying that we don't for every single one, but there is a lot of that that I think kind of should be talked about more

that isn't talked about. So the Bears give an award every year. It's called the Brian Pickman Award. Well, hold on. The Bears guy said what? Aaron Rodgers is a piece of shit. He's not a Bears guy. That's a hub argument.

He lived in Chicago, but he's not a Bears guy. He said Aaron Rodgers was the, what did he say? The piss me off when he said it. Whatever the case. He doesn't know Aaron, obviously. But I think he has a Hall of Fame vote. I'm a big Aaron Rodgers. He does.

I'm a huge Aaron Rodgers fan, by the way. Dude's a badass. Anyway, what was I saying, man? We were talking about the voters on awards. Oh, so the Bears have the Brian Piccolo Award. It's an internal award. Guess who votes on it? For me, I got it twice. It's a big award. Guess who votes on it? For me, I got it twice.

It's a big award because your teammates vote on it. Yes, that matters. That's the shit that matters. My teammates, my peers, the coaches, not the, sorry fans,

but not the fans, not the media. I love the fans. Fans love you too. It's okay. I love them back. But I'm saying, it's the ones that mean the most

to the players, I believe, are the ones that your teammates vote on and your peers vote on. Yeah, I get it. Because those are people you want to be respected by. Those people yes and you that's you want to earn that respect when you're seeing when you're corranded was it your decision or somebody else's mostly mine but it kind of i thought i could still play man my knee was so jacked i hurt my knee the year

before my so season 12 i heard it played 13 i i wouldn't say i played i was on the field season 13 i wasn't that good but uh i just, and then they fired Lovey. I was like, fuck, do it. And I was a free agent. It worked out perfect because I was a free agent. They fired him. New staff. It actually worked out perfect.

So what I was going to say is I think a lot of guys' careers, they come into the league, they're happy to be in. Yes. Like, oh, I'm happy to be in the NFL. Then business happens. You get jaded. Then you experience long enough in the NFL normally, except for some guys. Some guys just get the highest salary,

the highest contract at every single negotiation, and good for them, by the way. Congrats to Minka Fitzpatrick, by the way. Which is huge. Congrats to him. He's got $18 million per year, $36 million guaranteed, I think. He's a badass. Hey, he hits so good.

And he gets the ball. He's a ball hawk. He hits. I like that. Yeah, congrats to him, by the way. Nobody knew how that was going to go. Thank you, Dolphins. They get jaded through their business. Then towards the end of their career, they see the end in sight,

so they start enjoying the day-to-day more. And then normally how it ends with most guys in the NFL, if they played a long time, it's not normally their decision. So for the first time in their football career, somebody was telling them, like, hey, you're not good enough. You've got to get out of here, especially the long guys. So those guys get jaded towards the league towards the sport they disappear a little bit then they normally come back did any of that happen with you i wasn't jaded you know luckily i didn't get cut you know i can see if you're making a lot of money and you you know the last two or three years a lot of

that happens to a lot of guys and then they go play somewhere else for a much less much less money and they don't play as well and not because of money, but it just doesn't work out the same. Maybe it's a different system. But luckily, I didn't get cut. I was just a free agent, and the new management didn't bring me back, and we couldn't work out a deal. So there's no, like, beef or whatever. I mean, I didn't really care to go back there.

But they fired Lovey. I was pissed, so mad. We were 10-6, and they fired Lovey. I was so mad. And then this is going to sound terrible. The next few years after they fired Lovey, they weren't as good. How about that? How about that?

For some reason, we go 10-6 and they fire our head coach. In the next five or six years, they don't win seven, eight games a year. There may be something to Lovey's coaching ability. So you did enjoy that, though, whenever the team was... Oh, I don't want them to lose. I played for them 13 years. I wanted them to win, but it would have been a lot better if they won with Lovey as head coach.

He's back. I know he is. You talk to him still? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Love that dude. He's unbelievable. Hey, that team is a shit show.

They're going to have some issues, yeah. But they're going to play good defense, and they're going to play fast, and they're going to take the ball away. I'll tell you that much. Guaranteed. What do you think is the separator between guys that make it and don't make it in the NFL? I told you this earlier. Everybody

seems to have the ability. Now, you were 4-5, 6-4, 2-4. It helps when you're gifted. There's a lot of guys walking around that can do that. It's just, I think, the ability to... For me, it was a process of information like that. When the ball was snapped,

there was no thought of – I knew exactly what I was supposed to do every single play, where I was supposed to fit, where that linebacker was going, where that DM was going. So there was no thinking for me. It was all reacting. I think if you're out there on the football field and you're thinking, you're not going to play fast.

Oh, that's like when you're a Top Gun pilot. Yeah. Yeah, true. Oh, did you see Maverick? You think you're done. Top Gun? Yeah, you think you're done. You think you're done.

You saw it, obviously. Oh, what a great movie. My boy Bryce has seen it three times already. He goes every fucking time. He loves it. General Bob Carpenter's seen it three times. What'd you say? Bob Carpenter.

Bob Carpenter. He's a general. He saved football, but nonetheless. Sorry, man. I guess I missed that part. Sorry, no claps on that one. Sorry, guys. Well, General Bob actually played at Ohio State with the Cowboys He was a part of that linebacking crew with A.J. Hawk

Oh his son Bobby Carpenter Yes That's who we're talking about Oh Bobby Carpenter You said Bob General Bob That's his nickname I don't know him that well He's lobbying for football to come back

The guy with the hair. Yes. Yeah, I remember him. He was good at Ohio State. The Ohio State. Yeah, he's yoked up, but he's seen it four times, five times now at this point. Great fucking movie, dude. I love the way they brought the old movie back into it.

Ice was in there. It was great. Man, it was so good. But what was I saying before that? Oh, anyway. Thinking. Oh, yeah. The ability to not have to process information slowly.

If you can just react, like I said, and not think about what you're doing, I think it helps a whole lot. My first year, I'm not going to lie, there were some times where I wasn't reacting. I was thinking, you're not going to make any plays. You're going to be in the wrong gap. You're going to screw. And what you learn quickly is you're going to piss off the guys around you

if you don't know what you're doing. My first year preseason, I got bitched out by Brian Robertson. And I was like, what did I do wrong? I watched the film. I knew what I did wrong. But, man, you don't want to let those guys down around you either. But for me, it was just reacting. And it was so much easier game when you could just react and not think.

Ever doubt whenever you got to the NFL that it was going to be a league you couldn't keep up with? Athletically, no. I knew right away I fit in. But they put me at Sam, my first training camp. So bad. So bad at's Sam I was on the tight end every play jamming him if he blocks down go spill I'm like fuck this there's no space I'm a space player I need space and then unfortunately for Barry Minter he got hurt the second week of the season and I uh started at Mike every game after that. Barry got hurt, and Greg Blasch says, go into Mike.

I go, Mike? I go, I've never taken a snap at Mike. I was the third down Mike linebacker early on. Oh, I was starting to think of that because you were playing safety in college. Playing safety in college. So I moved down to, I knew I was going to be a linebacker. I thought I was. But then Greg goes, go play Mike.

I was like, what the fuck do I do? He goes, run to the ball. We'll fix it, whatever. So I just ran to the ball for the first couple games, and I figured some shit out, and I made some plays. Hey, that NFC North stack, dude. Well, back then, it was Tampa Bay was in our division. Yeah. My first couple years, it was Tampa Bay, us, Minnesota, Green Bay,

and Detroit, Minnesota. Fair respect for the Minnesotans. Yes, the Minnesotans. Minnesotans are good people up there. North Dakota. But towards the end there, that NFC North, I mean, Adrian Peterson was in there, right? Yeah, he was in there. Kuhn at Green Bay was really in the middle of his thing, wasn't he?

Would you play against Kuhn at Green Bay? Kuhn in the fullback? Yeah. I think I might. You know, Schlesinger. Fuck. Detroit. Remember that dude?

Nebraska? He might have been before you because you're super young. No, no, but I know him. I remember watching. Fuck. Klein Saucer at Minnesota? Oh, Jim Klein Saucer. Oh, fuck. Those two big New Year's. Oh, Jim Klein Saucer. Oh, fuck.

Those two big big hairs. Hey, that was helmet to helmet era. Yeah, that was exactly when you could hit. Like the fullbacks actually lined up in the backfield, and they would run at you and hit you and not cut you. It was amazing. How do you feel about those rules? Do you think that is obviously the brain is everything everybody's going to talk about?

I don't have time on your show, Pat, about how I feel about the rules of the game, but I understand the safety of the game. I want the guys to play longer. I want it to be safe. But there is a point in football where you're going to have to hit somebody, and there is a point where you're going to get hurt. That's the nature of the game.

That's the way it's going to happen. I understand, though, the head injuries are a big deal, but knees are a big deal, too. You know, you heard yours playing golf the other day. It's a big deal, your knees. You need them to be successful. There's no reason. There's no reason to bring it up.

We're talking about you. There's no reason to talk about me hitting into a net. I'm back, though. You're back. You're bouncing around. Could you do a backflip off the top rope right now and land on your feet still? Sure. I don't want to see you.

Stability might be an issue yeah that's what I'm talking about now's the time yeah a week from now no of course I mean game ready hey we're old dude we are old I am old you are in your prime am I is that how I should be doing this 30s is great should I retire at 34 I think I was at the end of my prime when I retired you're in yours right now though believe it yeah mental game look at you how old are yours right now, though. Believe it. That's a mental game. Look at you. How old are you right now? 44. I'm old. No, you're not.

Look at you. Yeah. You ride 500 miles a month. Yeah, that's right. Thank you. You listened. Yeah. My goal is 6,000 for the year.

I'm going to do it. Yeah, you are. I'm at 278 right now for this month. I'm halfway. What's the date today? 15th. Halfway there. Well, I can't ride tomorrow.

I can't ride Friday. Oh, no. Big Saturday, Sunday. Saturday, Sunday. We're going to go? 15th. Halfway there. Well, I can't ride tomorrow. I can't ride Friday. Oh, no. Big Saturday, Sunday. Saturday, Sunday. We got to go 40-40. Yep, yep. And then we'll catch up next week. Yeah, we'll get it.

We can get you an e-bike, too, that'll help you. No, the e-bikes are not for me yet. No, yeah, we'll help you. No, no, I don't need any help. Yeah, you got 50, bro. 50, 50 these days. We'll get you up to 100 miles in two days. No problem.

You're not getting the workout in, bro. No, you can. Yeah, you can. I'm going to get an e-bike in about eight years. Okay, 52, I'm getting an e-bike. 52, I'm going to get it. Maybe. We'll see.

I might be in better shape than who knows. I may be on the Tour de France Senior League. Oh, yeah, the Del France. Yeah. The Wee Wee. The Wee Wee. Go ahead, Todd. The Senior Tour de France.

Did you ever think about or get approached to do some more commentating, especially when you see what these guys are making right now? Granted, you aren't a quarterback, but you're one of the best linebackers ever. Did you ever think, oh, shit, this is really an avenue that I can break into? So I tried Fox my first year out of football. I went and worked in the studio. It was so fun. It was with Jay Glazer, Randy Moss.

We had Rondé Barber. It was fun in the studio, but the travel crushed it. I retired so I could be home more. I wanted to be, you know, plus no one wanted me on their team. But more importantly, to be home. That's an easy decision there. So much easier. And then I find myself leaving every Saturday to Tuesday or Wednesday to go work in the studio.

And it wasn't as enjoyable as I wanted it to be. So I never, I mean, the money is great. I think they all deserve it, most of them at least. Not all of them. Most of them. I said most of them.

No, the high end guys. Like Aitman, Herbstreet, those dudes are freaking awesome. You don't have to go through all the names because you'll leave people out and people will get pissed at you.

You're right, you're exactly right. But those two pop. Hey, this is what I get into, by the way, where I go like, oh, this guy's good, this guy's good

and then I'll get a text from somebody. What about him? Oh, yeah. Oh, not good? No, no, no, no. I go like, oh, this guy's good, this guy's good, and then I'll get a text from somebody. What about him? Not good? No, no, no. There's some people that are disrespecting the game, though,

when they're commentating, I think. A hundred percent. There's some guys I have to mute. And they work with a guy I really like, but I have to mute it anyway

because I can't hear the other guy talking. By the way, no offense to them, it's just not your thing. No, yeah. TV is a travel thing. Greg Olson started calling me.

I like Greg. Greg does a good job. But Aikman's my favorite. Him and Herbie. Herbie on college football, the best. He's coming Thursday night. I know he's going Thursday night. It's great.

Did you play Thursday nights? Yeah. I love Thursday nights. Dude, how great. Did you play Thursday nights? Yeah, three-day weekend. Bam. It's a short week.

So you play Sunday. You're working Monday. You're recovering Tuesday. Game plan Wednesday. Walk through Thursday. Play. Bam. And it's a short week. So you play Sunday. You're in a working Monday. You're recovering Tuesday. Game plan Wednesday. Walk through Thursday. Play. Bam. It's great.

Were you healthy most of your game? Yeah. Those are my best games. Because you usually play a division opponent. So there's not much preparation. They got to dumb down everything, too. Yeah. It's like we had like six play calls on defense.

It was great. If you fuck up on those six play calls, you're a dumbass. Because the game plan was so simple. You just go out there and, you know, over two, over two, over two, over two. That's all we did. It was great. Anybody you watch on the field that maybe you're playing against or film or something, you said that dude appears to be different than everybody else.

Oh. Julius Peppers was different. Really? Dude, he's 6'7", 300 pounds, and he could, like, just watch it. Like, the knock on him, which really pissed me off when he came to Chicago, was he didn't practice hard, he didn't play hard. Bullshit. This dude was a machine.

Like, you can't just show up on Sunday. That's kind of a bullshit thing to say. People say this about NBA, too. They're not playing defense. It's like, they're 6'7". Go try to score on them. Yeah, that's exactly right. You won't score a fucking thing.

Man, but Pep was different. That guy, I mean, even in practice, he just glided. I mean, Hester caught a screen one day, and he was running down the sideline, and Pep ranged that. I mean, the angle was great, but there was no separation between Hester and Pep. How about quarterbacks? Any quarterbacks you remember playing against that were like, oh, this person is nice?

Boy, Aaron. I mean, I played against him twice a year. We could not beat those fuckers. We beat him, I think, one time in 2010. Hey, Ty just said, just said hell yeah you couldn't hear it it was quiet because you don't have they're so good i mean he's the reason yeah he's the reason there's the receivers you can put whatever receivers you want to in there i don't care who it is he's going to make them better hey why do they hate him why does everybody hate aaron rogers because before he came and started doing our conversations i didn't know shit about him other than i honestly i didn't know i love his interview and now that he's on your show and just basically start to talk to you

it's my favorite thing we were very lucky for that oh i love it because the media hates you even more for it and they despise him because he won't talk to them give them the information they want it's so great but it has been like forever though aaron has been bashed like before i feel like when i met him the first time i think it was in the Bahamas at the golf thing, and we had a rain delay, so we were sitting at the bar or whatever, the clubhouse, and we were there for like an hour and a half. And we just so happened to sit at the same table or whatever. I was having some drinks. We were having some drinks. And as I was like 20, 30 minutes into the conversation with him, I'm like, I know nothing about this fucking guy, and I feel like I keep up with the internet a lot.

The only thing I know about him is this guy's a selfish fucking asshole prick. And then like, as I was talking to him, I'm like, he seems to be deep thinking. Charming. He makes love him. Yes. And he's very witty. If you spend any time,

I played golf with him in Tala a few times. A witty dude, smart ass, jabs, like the small jabs, you know, when you hit a bad shot, he goes, oh, that's great. You know, he says there's something smart ass in there to piss you off. But yeah, very competitive too.

When you played against him, what separated him? He knew, so number one, he got a great arm, very accurate, smart. You know, it's like Tom, it's like Peyton. They all know exactly what you're doing before the ball snapped. There's no key to that. They all know what's going on. It's just his ability to throw the ball. His picks, he throws four picks last year.

How do you do that in 6-17 games now? he throws four picks last year. How do you do that in six, 17 games now? I put up that CBS Sports. How do you do that? There's some stat, you know, this hit the internet, and we get attacked by everybody about just, we just slob on Aaron Rodgers, they say. That's right. But it's not just us, by the way.

Stats seem to fucking slob for this guy as well. Do the work. Look, I mean, his single-digit picks. I mean, so speaking from a guy who's never played with a quarterback who did that, it's amazing how good of a position he puts his team in because he doesn't turn the ball over. I know there's going to be times that guys make great plays or whatever, but the picks don't happen because he makes a bad decision.

Even when he's flustered. Yeah, but you're Brian Urlacher. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. That's what people are going to say. I don't know if you're right or not. Yeah, yeah. That's what people are going to say on the internet. Just from having played against him maybe 10 times.

Just from what I've seen face-to-face with him across the line of scrimmage, the guy is unbelievable at putting the ball on the money, pressure. You're not going to fool him. It's just frustrating. This new style of play, would you have liked it or hated it? The whole RPO thing with offensive linemen being able to basically go downfield, which is your read, right? No, we had different

keys when I played. You read your keys, your keys take you to football. We would have figured it out. Same thing with RPOs? Same thing. We would have figured it out. Play action, RPO, same thing? Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter to us. We have a key. We read our key. Our key takes us to the football. That was our thing on defense. Read your key. Every play, you have a key. If you read your. Our key takes us to the football. That was our thing on defense. Read your key.

Every play, you have a key. If you read your key, you can't be wrong. If you go where your key tells you to go, you can't be wrong. Oh, it's like Ludd X. Read the key. Uh-huh. Read the key. It's hard, too.

Combine it all. Yeah, read your keys. That's all. We used to do a key drill every fucking day in practice. Coach Babbage, we'd do a key drill for 10 minutes. Me and Lance, I'm like, okay, step right, step left, step right, go to the B gap, go to the B gap. Every day. That's all we did.

So we knew our gaps. We knew where the ball was taking us. Hall of Fame. Hall of Fame. More clapping. Yeah, I want to clap this time. More clapping. Clapping keeps good energy up.

As does a five-guys cocktail right there. What do you got? Dr. Pepper. Oh, hell yeah. Oh, me some DP. Yeah, 23 flavors. Sweet tea, Dr. Pepper, yellow Gatorade. That's it. But you eat eat like shit i still eat like shit

i love food man i told myself as long as i can keep eating and not i didn't want to blow up when i got through playing i haven't yet i just want to be able to eat whatever the piss i want i love snacks i really like the snack which one chocolate oh. Twix. I like Twix. I like Kit Kats. I like Snickers. There's kind of a trend there. Whatchamacallit. Whatchamacallit. Whatchamacallit.

Oh, Whatchamacallit's so good. You like chocolate coated with a little texture inside. Correct. Yeah. I also like donuts a lot. Glazed? At nighttime. So before I go to bed, I have a glass of milk.

No, a little hostess ones. Oh, yeah. Now they have the chocolate. The powdered ones. The powdered ones are good too. But they have the crunch ones now. And they have the chocolate. The powdered ones. The powdered ones are good too. But they have the crunch ones now. And they have the strawberry shortcake ones too. Smorgasbord before bedtime.

I don't think anybody would have expected the freak specimen riding 40 miles a day on his bike 500 every single month. That's why I ride 40 miles a day. Like a 12-year-old. Oh, okay. That's why I ride 40 miles. Hey, you're inspiration for me. So I can eat what I want.

I want to let you know you are inspiration for me. I appreciate that. I'm going to go on my electric bike. Look at you. Just do the Peloton. It's the same thing. So actually, I would like to say when I tweaked my knee on the concrete there, then I hopped on a bike because I was going to get into biking because everybody loves it.

I think it just made it work. Well, you weren't healthy. What do you mean? Let me look at you here, buddy. They're not, it's pretty close, but not, you got a little swelling in there still. Yeah, right here. Yeah, it's not good. Yeah, I don't. Get the game ready on there a pretty close, but not, you got a little swelling in there still. Yeah, right here. Yeah, it's not good. Yeah, I don't.

Put the Game Ready on there a couple more times. Yeah, you got Game Ready. Maybe get an MRI. Hey, by the way, Game Ready, a little game changer. It's huge. Even after I retired, I kept mine for a couple years after. So I posted a photo on it, my IG story. I'm like, if you know, you know.

This thing is the thing right there. Just the best device of all time. You have to have a Game Ready for your whole body. I know they have the sleeves and stuff, but imagine if they had one for like a sleeve you could just lay in. Slip in? I think you should have those dollars. Slip in? We'd have to get your wife to put them on. Hyperback chamber is, but if we get a

game ready chamber. Sleeping bag? Your whole body just, it would be a cold tub. I guess that would be the, that's a cold tub. Basically it's a cold tub. I don't get the cold tub up to here. I can't do the whole thing. It's cold tub basically it's a cold tub I don't get I only get in the cold tub up to here I can't do the whole thing

it's cold put stuff on your toes or no? the toe caps yeah oh of course me too I don't know how anybody gets in or not were you a cold tub guy

when you played? yes twice a day for me me too loved it I enjoyed it training camp I do two times a day during the season

just one time a day you're punting all day long you gotta be so tired come on so tired all that punting everyone else is running around tackling and practicing what are you guys doing?

yeah you're over there punting you're so tired yeah good luck guys training tired. All that punting while everyone else is running around tackling and practicing. What are you guys doing? Yeah, you're over there punting. You're so tired. Yeah, good luck, guys. Training camp was the best. You know, you're watching the guys snap to the, you're holding the thing and all that stuff.

It's so hard. Why are you guys running your heads into each other? You can just do this. What are you guys doing? Training camp was the best. I want to let you know

the amount of faux energy I used to bring into. Come on, guys. This is fun. You get to do this. Yes, I get to do this. It's the NFL. This is fun. Come on. Yeah, I'm with you. I enjoyed fun. You get to do this. Yes. You get to do this. It's the NFL. This is fun.

Come on. Yeah. I'm with you. I enjoyed the hell out of it. Training camp was a bitch. Now it's different. Oh, this is three days, two days down to what's going on. Well, I played back in, you know, we had two days.

Yeah. Now it's, which these guys have played a long time because their practice is less, which is good. Play longer. Play longer. More money. And you play longer. Play longer.

I love it. Good business. Pay them as much as they can. Everyone who gets paid, I love it. I think it's great. How come? Pay them all. Because they earned it. Number one, Pat. And the owners are making so much money. What's that?

What was that? Give these players all the money they want. I think it's great that they're all getting paid the more the merrier. The owners make plenty of money. Plenty. Plenty of money. There's plenty to go around. The commissioner makes plenty of money. Plenty. Plenty of money. There's plenty to go around. The commissioner makes plenty of money. Plenty. So it's nice to see the players

are finally catching up to what, not catching up, but they're getting closer to where they should be. How about Roger Goodell being the greatest speaker of all time? He can speak for 45 minutes and not say a thing.

Oh. That's why he gets 61 million. Is it 61 now? I think, yeah. That's a lot of bread. That's almost like much as you make. That's a lot of cake. 61. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, 67. Shit, that's a lot of bread. That's almost like much as you make. That's a lot of cake. 61.

Yeah, Brian, it felt like when you came into the league, everyone kind of hated each other as far as team goes, and now, you know, there's jersey swaps. Buddy, buddy. Yeah, buddy, buddy, exactly. When you were in the league, though, were there other linebackers from different teams, kind of like the tight end you, O-line summit,

where you would kind of pick each other's brains during the offseason, or was it just kind of like you and Lance working together on what you were doing with Chicago? If we saw guys, we normally didn't talk football, though, when we see other guys. It's usually at Pro Bowls or golf tournaments, shit like that. But Lance and I, I didn't pick their brains about, hey, if they're running an iso week, what do you do?

Because you don't know the scheme. Every scheme is pretty much different. So you don't – I mean, you can maybe ask techniques about certain things, but we didn't pick their brain. I know I've seen the tight end stuff when they go, but Joe, is it Kittle that did that? I have Kittle Kelsey, I think. That guy's a badass. Oh yeah.

G-Reg? Hey. G-Reg Olsen? Third leg. G-Reg and his third leg. And the six floor pot, is it the six floor? Seven floor, yeah. Is that what he's...

What you do get hit. How you do it. That's how it went. You guys have heard this song many a time. Oh, yeah. He actually thought it was Ed Reed for a little bit. I like it. No, but Miami's getting investigated right now.

Why? Miami's team getting investigated for the NIL stuff. No, but Miami's getting investigated right now. They're the only team getting investigated for the NIL stuff. Well, they're not paying them enough? Are they underpaying their players? What happened? Are they disrespecting the players? Well, they're not paying the players enough. What happened? So, isn't the NCAA supposed to look out for the players' best interests? Are they not getting paid

enough down there? They need to do more to get them paid more. No, they're looking into just paying people to come play. I guess that was not in the bylines. That's why Saban and Jimbo were so mad at each other. I think I know the problem. The NCAA wasn't getting their cut from the NIL money that the players were getting paid. They were not giving them enough percentage money. That's what it was.

Yeah. And by the way, they're going to find it, just like the IRS. Oh. They're going to find it. I'm not going to say anything. Yes. Yes. You said it, not me.

IRS. I don't want to talk about the IRS. Me neither. I try to fly under the radar. Hey, you guys are great. Under the radar. Under the radar. Thank you so much, IRS.

Under the radar. Thank you so much for all the taxes. Love you, IRS. Love you. Thank you for taxing me to work. Thank you. I'm glad you do that. How about when I got my first big check in the NFL?

Oh, yeah. And you probably did the same thing. I'm like, man, $10 million. Look at this thing. Oh. Oh, okay. I got $400 million. Yeah I'm like, man, 10 million. Look at this thing. Oh. Oh, okay. I got four and a half million. Five?

Yeah. I thought my bonus was 10 this time. What's the NFL pay taking that money for all of a sudden? Oh, federal. Oh, state. County? City?

Well, all right. There you go. Thanks. It's so disappointing. Yeah, 401K wasn't in there. That was the NFL. Yeah, you're right. They matched.

That was fucking awesome. They matched. 10 to 2 to 1? Yeah. 10 to 20? When I played, it was 10 to 20. It was probably 30. Yeah, you're right. They matched. That was fucking awesome. They matched. 10 to 2 to 1? Yeah. 10 to 20? When I played, it was 10 to 20. It was probably 30 to 70 when you played. 30 to 90 when you played.

No, I stayed. That was a hell of a fucking deal, though. It was great. And you could put in 12. The more you got, you could put 12, but they only put in 20 no matter what. Yeah, they just kind of took it out of everybody's account. When can you withdraw? You're a long ways from that.

I think 45. Vinatieri was almost playing until he was getting it. Brady. Brady's older than me. Brady's my age. We got drafted the same year. I can draw next year on my 401k. So can he. You get a penalty of some sort. But you can take it

and put it out into an IRA. So you can actually control where your money's being invested and they don't control it for you. And you don't pay the 1.5% fee that they charge you to invest your money for you, which you cannot touch because they control it all. Oh, who gets the NCAA? It's kind of like the NCAA.

Yeah, it is like the NCAA, isn't it? I mean, that's a fascinating thing. Really weird. And you do not get along with the NFLPA either? I won't say I didn't get along. They do some good things. I just don't think our deals are as good as other sports. How about that?

For our players, this is probably the most dangerous sport, I would say, maybe. What's that one? There's a team fighting in Russia. No, no, no. Five on five. I'm not talking about crab fishing. I'm talking about like a baseball.

Do you have this catch? Yeah, I think one of them watches. One of them watches. Sig from the Northwestern? That's my boat. I love it. Hey, I think he's watching. It's everyone's boat, Brian.

Captain Sig. On the last one, Mandy was about to have her kid on the last one. I don't know if she had it or not. Congrats if you did. I missed it. Good job. Anyway, so I'm talking baseball, hockey, basketball, and football, the four main sports.

I would think – am I leaving anybody out? I mean the MLF. MLF just signed a deal with Apple for $250 million a year. Okay. Anyway, so those four sports. I feel like the NFL has not the best PA compared to those sports. With the guaranteed money that the other sports are getting compared to what our guys are getting.

And more importantly, the insurance benefits that they get after they're done compared to what they're going to get. I'm up. This is my last year. You're done? Yeah, five years. Then you've got to go into the Gene Upshaw Fund. Yeah, then I've got to dive in. What's that?

Gene Upshaw Fund. That's the fund you get. You don't know about the Gene Upshaw Fund? Dude, I did nothing with the NFLPA. I was their worst nightmare. So you have a fund that will pay your insurance for you. It's the Gene Upshaw Fund. I have two years left on it.

Well, maybe three years left on mine. Shout out Gene Upshaw. Coach, yeah. Yeah, pay your insurance for you. It's the Gene Upshaw fund. I have two years left on, maybe three years left on mine. Shout out Gene Upshaw. Coach, yeah. Yeah, they did a good job. So you should have a fund. I'm pretty sure you got it. 2011, I think they started it and you were still in the league.

So you should get it. Make sure you find out. Were you a rep? No, I was not a rep. Sounds like you know a lot of shit. I don't know a lot of shit, but I definitely not. Do you ever wish,

or like, obviously it wasn't going to happen, but do you wish that you could have stayed at safety instead of going to linebacker or did you learn to love? I think about that all the time, man.

Dude, imagine 6'4", 240 at free safety. I couldn't cover anybody, but it would have been a lot of fun hitting people. I could have covered people. I'm just kidding. I could have covered tight ends

probably because I covered them at linebacker. Yeah, you would be the person they're looking for right now to cover these tight ends. Oh, these tight ends are different now. Yeah, they're like your size. Yeah, but they run and they catch. Like, they're really good.

Like, Kelsey, Kittle, the dude in Waller. Yeah. That dude is so good. I like him a lot. I love his story too. But, yeah, I mean, I thought about that. And, you know, Tampa actually talked about drafting me and playing me at safety, but they had Lynch. So it didn't make a lot of sense.

Imagine that, two big-ass white safeties playing. Fine. They're crazy. Number 46, number 47. Because I would have had a different number. Yeah. Zito, your question for Mr. Lackapel? Should I turn my thing on?

I think you'll be able to hear it. Okay. Just what's your opinion on Justin Fields? Justin Fields. Yeah. So I haven't watched the Bears play a whole lot, so I don't'll be able to hear it. Okay. Just what's your opinion on Justin Fields? Justin Fields. Yeah. So I haven't watched the Bears play a whole lot, so I don't really – It's hard to tell. Your rookie year, they didn't have a good season last year.

He struggled. The offensive – So I think the more you run the football in the NFL or any level, you're going to be more successful. And I think you put a lot of pressure on your quarterback when you don't run the football unless you've got a Brady, you've got a Rodgers or one of those guys. They can handle it because they're good and they get rid of the football really fast. So we'll see.

I think he's talented. He's got a great arm. Athletic as hell, obviously. But we shall see. You just took quite a shot at all. Play colors. Play colors? What do you mean?

You said. Run the football. Sounds like this is a deep. You play in cold weather. Run the football. What are we doing? Run the football. Run the football. Play good defense. Stop the run. Run the football. Sounds like this is a deep. You play in cold weather. Run the football. What are we doing? Run the football. Run the football.

Play good defense. Stop the run. Run the football. Take the ball away. Run the football. Run the fucking football. Run the football. It changes everything for the quarterback.

Run the football. Yeah. It changes everything, though. It really does. And it slows the game down. If you've got a rookie quarterback, you want to shorten that game, I would think. You run the football more. Well, Mac Jones did pretty damn good last year.

I shouldn't say that. Yeah, but they literally had a game where they won with two completions. Two completions. And they threw out the Bills game, right? Yeah. You run the football more. When Mac Jones did pretty damn good last year, I shouldn't say that. Yeah, but they literally had a game where they won with two completions. Two completions. And they threw the Bills game, right? Yeah. Negative 700. And the wind was blowing 200 miles an hour. And Bill was pissed that they even threw it three times or whatever.

Yes. I couldn't believe they won that game because I love the Bills. Josh Allen's a beast. Dude, he's a monster. Oh, he's a monster. He's a freaking monster. Probably my favorite quarterback. They run them on ISOs, too, on power.

Yeah, they do. That's much different. It's scary for me when he has the ball in his hands running because I want him to get hurt because he doesn't avoid hits. He takes them on. I love it. Tough guy, old school. He's a beast.

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I didn't write that. Good read, though, by the way. Nice job. Thank you. Thank you. We tried on and had it. You like the hat on or how do you like the hat off? Your hair looks good.

Hair looks good. Fantastic. I need a haircut, but it looks good. I've been on the road for a couple days, so I can't get it cut. My wife will cut it when I get home, but I'm digging it today. It looks good. Yeah, hair always looks good. No gel, no nothing.

Just flowing. That's natural right there? Natural. Well, you know, after the procedure, it's natural, yeah. After they put the hairs from the back to the front, yes. Is that the greatest hair thing of all time? It's pretty unbelievable, man. I've seen other people do it.

You have got a great set of hair, by the way. Thank you. That is phenomenal. Every time I see them, I'm like, look at the flip up top. Do you wear a hat on the golf course? I wear one of the big ones. You wear that hat? With this head, you mean? Yeah, does it keep sun off? Yeah. We can wear that hat in Tahoe? The wear one of the big ones. You wear that hat? With this head, you mean?

Yeah, does it keep sun off? Yeah. We can wear that hat in Tahoe? The big one? Yeah. I think so. Really?

I'm just curious. You got a referral code that we can use? What's this all about? Hold on, what was that all about right there? Does it hurt?

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were you saying about tall hair? What was this all about? What was it? You think I shouldn't wear a hat? Wow, you suck. I mean, you're covering your face up. You want to be seen. Too much.

If I had hair like you, I would never wear a hat. Well, you do from restore.com. Yeah, anyway. All the boys, it really works? Does it hurt like hell whenever it happens? No, they numb it up. I wasn't too excited about getting it, but once the hair started growing, I tell you what, I was going through a drive-thru at Chick-fil-A.

This isn't creepy. The girl at the front, she's probably 19. Creepy. Not creepy. She was over 18. She was, wow. She was like, something about I like your hair. I was like, my wife was there.

I was like, yep, keeping the hair. Girl at Chick-fil-A said I got good hair. It's staying on. How long were you uh bald for oh shit so i started going bald in college dude or divots i had the divots you know you've probably seen them and then when you get to nfl everyone makes fun of you in the locker room you know how it is like if you have one little thing wrong with your body or anywhere on your you know outer they're gonna make fun of you so i got made fun of about my so i just shaved it but i was bald

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Yeah. You can't leave any direction in the airport without seeing those billboards. It's amazing. Your hair looks unbelievable in person and on those billboards. A lot of people are going to do that. Hour two on the other side with A.J. Hawk. Boom. Hit that. Right on. You see those numbers. All right. of people are going to do that. Hour two on the other side with A.J. Hawk. Boom, hit that.

You see those numbers? That was square. Boom, turned on like Golden Tate did for the Port Angeles Lefties last night. Went two for three or something like that with a double and an RBI. Was that softball? No, he's playing like Frontier League baseball.

He's made the move from football to baseball. Are you watching Savannah Bananas? Is it Eric Burns? Yeah, he did play for them. But those dudes are unbelievable. How about those stilts pitching guys? The little dance they do and the guy pitches and strikes him out? I'm the best sit down dancer you're ever going to find.

But you're not standing and doing it? Definitely not standing up, no. Once the feet get involved, it's a problem. You've got to get the issues. You've got to get the feet and the arms and the other parts. Not good. Your hair looks amazing. What's the afterwards?

Like a week? You can't move. You can't sweat. Three days. You can't work out. Three days. You can't ride your bike. I can't ride my bike for three days.

Son of a bitch. Couldn't wear your floppy hat for three days either. Son of a bitch. Couldn't wear the sun ray hat either. No. Three days isn't that many days. No.

It feels like about 100 when you're doing it no for you when you're active it's like hard not to do yeah yeah you're a son's out every day in arizona so yeah you're a psycho though yeah psycho not normal humans normal humans may have a call you get three days for tone he gets he gets an excuse he gets excused what is a promo What is it? Promo code Brian? Text me. Restore.com. Text me. R-E-S-T-O-R-E. Hair.com.

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To be honest, when I was reading through this and learning about the business, I think it's a great business, great idea. Yeah. I immediately thought of Luda. You know, L-U-D. I like Ludacris, too. He has good songs. But my first thought wasn't Rolodex, which is definitely what this is.

100%. Ludex. I didn't think about the Rolodex, either. I didn't think about that, either. Hey, we appreciate the hell out of you for stopping by, man. Thank you for having me in here. It was great talking to you, gentlemen. Yeah, can't wait to see you in Tahoe.

Yes. We should make a wager. No. Definitely. Your first year, you're going to do great. You're going to play so well. I'm going to have the hat on. Don't you worry about it.

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It's worth it. It's great. Ladies and gentlemen, Brian Urlacher. Thank you. Let's ride. Let's ride. I wasn't sure.

Let's ride. Dude. Let's ride. I watched that video of us explaining to AJ what we were doing and how long we've been doing it and how long he's missed it for. Yeah, forever. Last night, four or five times. I don't remember anything we do in here. That was by far the dumbest.

Listen, what do you say? That was the dumbest that we have ever done. Wow. You explained that. Yeah, we get two in before you get the one in yeah and then we go back running the intro again to the frog dumbest show of all time thank you all so much for watching can't thank her lack or enough for traveling out to indiana and what a zito's giving a clap back mics are off but we appreciate him he did literally, he bodied somebody. I was recording it. I'll post it as soon as I get time, like commercial break probably. Bodying somebody that didn't exist.

Turn, off pivot foot, fade away, NBA 3. That's what Brian does. Remember? 44 years old, eating Hostess donuts with a cup of milk. Every night. He's my hero. Five guys as he walked in here. Two, three burgers and a large Dr. Pepper.

6,000 miles on a bike a year. 500 a month. Needs to catch up because the last couple days he's been on the road. What a fucking stallion. Just like the talk table at Ty Schmidt at Boston Corner. One half of the hammer down Cowboys. Ty and Diggs is here. And joining us from Connecticut, Ohio.

And I can't wait for him to hear the news that we found out during the break there. Yeah. Just in the moments in between Erlacher's dap-up goodbye to this show starting. A college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, former linebacker for the Green Bay Packers. This is a big linebacker day. A.J. Hawk. A.J. Hawk.

What's up, dude? I mean, yeah, this sucks. I have to miss the 105 let's ride. So I can't. I am looking forward to 205. But you have missed it for three years now. That's what we're saying. I know.

Believe me, I've started to reevaluate. I'm going to have to go back and watch the shows and realize, like, how did I miss it every single day for the last, what, 700 and some days? I would recommend everybody not to go back and watch our shows. But if you were to, you might find that we have been saying Let's Ride for a long time. Nonetheless, let's ride on to a new subject here oh yeah urlacher's the man i mean that was he was electrifying yeah absolutely he's completely opposite of you by the way i mean you're you're eating grilled chicken and everything every single day this dude's eating hostess

donuts every single night with a cup of milk and he looks he's a gigantic freak he is he absolutely he's awesome he's the most like normal just dude like and he's a hall of famer an absolute stud like he is he's awesome i'm just gonna do this retirement thing until i get bored and then one day i get bored i'm gonna fuck i guess i'll go watch tv that's where everybody else what a human that guy like he's a movie you know what i mean erlacher is a movie character yeah he's bigger stronger faster than you are hits harder than you are uh has the ability to be a five handicaphandicap golfer, this guy. He goes, oh, I fucking stink right now, a five-handicap or something like that.

Let's make wager on Tahoe. Get the fuck out of here. This guy, what a specimen, Brian Erlacher. He is. Oh, he's an absolute specimen. And I think listening to him talk about football is fun. Watching he and Aaron together is cool, too, because he has so much respect for Aaron and what he's done.

Aaron has tons of respect for Erlacher and what he does as a player, but also just how he is as a person, too. I think their personalities are funny together. Those two just locking eyes before a snap. What are you going to do? Probably just both laughing at each other, I guarantee it. Yeah, Aaron's thinking, you might know what you're doing, but that guy right next to you has no clue.

So, sorry about it, pal. But how about him saying, what do I know about Aaron when I compliment him? I've only played him like 10 times or something like that on the other side. He's a Hall of Fame linebacker. I learned that – I thought other Hall of Famers had votes for who gets in the Hall of Fame. That's not the case, I guess, AJ. Yeah, I guess I don't know.

It would make sense that the people that are already in get a vote, but I guess that's – so that's not the case, as he said, right? Yeah, he said, no, it's the media. And why is Zach Thomas not in here? Because he's 5'10", he said. Is that the people that are already in get a vote but i guess that's so that's not the case as he said right yeah he said no it's the media and why is zach thomas not in here because he's five foot ten he said is that the issue that people have never played before holding that against him who knows every award is obviously up for conversation speaking of award i mean gumpy might have awarded himself a citizenship here in the united states yeah is he here wow maybe soon he might be coming soon, pal. I mean, this...

That's right. Big things have happened on Twitter since the conversation with Urlacher started and stopped and hour one started and now we're into hour two. Mm-hmm. Did he go after the NFL?

Famed actress Lisa Ann has tweeted that this is a movement I can get behind wearing the free Goomp shirt. Yeah! Thank you, Queen! So congrats to Goompi. Okay, your banishment from the United States of America has been noticed and respected by an award winning actress in Lisa Ann.

How did this happen? We don't know. We have no idea, but we do know Gump, are you marrying Lisa Ann to become an American? You tell me, pal. I see you. Now is the time to send flowers. Yeah. Chocolates. Chocolates. Whatever.

Petty bears. Whatever Lisa could potentially want. Let's get you back into America via a nice marital status with legend Lisa Ann. I know she is a fan of the show because it was a big day for some of us in the office when she followed us. It was a talk of the town for some of us. So I do know that she is a fan of the show. She works for Sirius. Yeah, she has a fantasy football show, I believe. Well, thank you for following along, Lisa Ann.

And also, thank you for supporting this big-time, you know, import-deport problem we got going on with our guy Gump. He – I think we're taking steps forward. I think he's close to coming back. But it's as easy as an I do, right? Yeah, this is as simple as it can get. I think we can skip all these hoops if Gumpy just says, oh, okay.

I'm going to try my best to marry Lisa Ann. See you in New York tomorrow. Now, Lisa Ann, I assume she's, I don't know if she's married. Is she already married? I do not think she's married. No, she's not. Married to the game, I know that. Here we go. We appreciate and respect the hell out of that, obviously, but maybe. Is that a proposal from her? That's what we're saying.

It seems like she has opened the door for conversation,ump right gumpy's old-fashioned though he would want to ask for her hand in marriage and her romo's hat oh it's not a starter hat no no that's just plain old hat that's not what he wears that is what he normally wears but he also wears those monster truck foams that's right you know the sketchers that keep you up whenever you're potentially boozed up on the old Ronas. Uh-huh. Call Tony on the Corona hotline. What's going on? Hey, Roma.

I saw a sweet pair of homos the other day. Hocus. Hocus. Did you call them homos? Like Max Homa? Yeah, I did. That's unbelievable

what you did. They're the Hocus. Homa won a tournament the other day, right? Yeah, he did. I got the open on my mind a tournament the other day, right? Yeah, I did. I got the open on my mind. The open's happening. Everybody's going to stink because they made the course impossible, I guess.

They made the fairways like greens. So people are hitting the ball onto the fairway. Somebody did a little roll test of the ball. I've seen it on the internet. I think it was the no laying up folks. They did a little roll of the ball on the fairway like you would hit a drive. And that thing rolled from the middle of the fairway all the way off into the water. And it's like the USGA, which is the United States Golf Association,

runs the US Open every single year. They purposely say, hey, we're going to make you look like all the slappies that play on the weekends and once a month. We're going to make this a tough golf course, and some people love it. I'd rather see them go 50 under, personally. But the USGA is always something different every single year, and the US Open is right around the corner, A.J. Hawk. What is great is that the USGA continues to mess up

the US Open, I feel like, at different times, and the guy who's been very vocal is Phil Mickelson, who has said how terrible they are and how they mess up these courses, so I wonder if Phil is going to feel as comfortable this week to do that. I know he had a presser earlier today that went very well. Yeah, it went very well, obviously. All these things are going to go very well,

and then people will tweet about them, which is obviously an immediate hypocrisy, but that's neither here nor there. The athletes can't do it, but every other business can be celebrated for doing stuff, and I understand if we're going to make a stop to it, let's put a stop to it. Right now.

Now's the time. Let's put a stop to it, but I don't think it's going to stop. I do not. Anytime you hear somebody's going for another round of funding or something, everything like that, I hope we all, instead of celebrating every time, I hope we decide to look into where the money is coming from. Sure. Because there's a chance that there's going to be a lot of these conversations that are happening around live golf with us. I'm not saying, hey, listen, I'm not saying that I'm on that side. I'm just saying if we're going to do it, let fucking make sure we do it not just against the athletes let's make sure we're attacking the

business people as well they're also doing as opposed to celebrating one thing and then fucking trying to ruin other people for one i just think that's a little uh hypocritical uh sure you can say that yeah definitely hypocritical okay i just want to say let's go ahead and do that but yeah phil's not talking that much i don't think phil's talking that much allegedly uh the live tour is going to go buy the european tour the dp tour just outright going to buy the dp tour which i believe is the yeah the i mean we all thought it was the dan patrick tour or portnoy tour it's not it's neither of those apparently the european fed European FedEx Cup is what Bruce said. So they're going to buy that outright, I guess. So then it's going to be the Live and the DP potentially.

What's the DP? Listen, it's a lot of things. And I know where your head just went. Wait, no, the European Tour. With the European Tour FedEx Cup, is that the whole every event? Or is that just a series of events? AJ, we obviously did not do enough research because Erlacher was in the office. So we started talking to him about everything.

He's electrifying. He needed a fadeaway three. But the golf thing with USGA and the US Open, they're saying Rory McIlroy is dialed in. That's up there in New England. Connor has boots on the ground up there with a source. What's going on? Yeah, boots on the ground.

Rory is still locked in from last week. Also, I think it plays into Phil's hand that it's in Boston because Boston loves a good heel. And basically everyone was loving what Phil Mickelson was doing up in Boston but yeah Rory right now kind of the front runner he's very nervous about Morikawa after his warm-up round is what the boots on the ground told us so like that matters like their practice round no Morikawa because he's good with the irons that's why is it tree-lined like is it an old school old-school course that's real, like, narrow, too?

No, it's up in Massachusetts, so it stinks. The Country Club. He doesn't like them because of the fairways, because of how the fairways are. Actually, if you don't really hit that spot on the fairway, it rolls all over the place. And Phil is known to drive the ball everywhere. Yeah, and the – well, the rough is insane. If a live golfer –

Sounds like a fun course. If a live golfer wins the U.S. Open this weekend. Panamoni. Because there was that thing. DeChambeau is like 45 over or something like that immediately upon entering a U.S. GA run course. That guy. His game is not built for the U.S. Open, I do not believe.

I think he's still hurt, but there was that thing about Spieth where Kevin Na and Billy Horschel were both warming up. Spieth walked up to Billy Horschel, congratulated on his win, and then didn't even acknowledge Kevin Na. So there definitely is a little bit of a rivalry. There's some camps here. Oh, yeah, it's already happening. And the one camp is like, oh, you're broke.

Yeah. And the other camp goes, yeah, but we're morally standing for something. And then they both take swings at the ball, and it's all right. Go about their day. See you out there. Rory, though. Justin Thomas. Jordan Spieth. Rom came out big yesterday.

Rom, who has a similar swing to me. A little short stroker. Good swing to have. A little short stroker. No big deal. A little explosive there. They're all Team PGA Tour heavy. Yes.

Then you got Phil, DJ, Nah. Patrick Reed. Patrick Reed. Bryson. Bryson. And who knows? Louis Houston. Sergio. Ricky, probably. Patrick Reed. Patrick Reed. Bryson. Bryson. And who knows? Louis Houston. Ricky probably.

Did Ricky already go? Yeah, he did. Ricky's with Liv? Yeah. If he qualifies for it. Well, that's because I think you do qualify. Ricky, what happened? I love Ricky.

He was really entertaining. There was a year where he came in top five for every single major, and then he kind of just, I don't know what happened. He always looked cool, though. He did. He still does. He took over. He basically put Puma on the map. So is Puma going to stick with him if he goes to Liv, I don't know what happened. He always looked cool, though. He did. He still does. He took over. He basically put Puma on the map.

So is Puma going to stick with him if he goes to live? I don't know. I doubt it. I assume so. They're a European company. He's gotten away from all the crazy colors, though. Not as much. You know what's interesting?

All these companies that are dropping these people, I'd like to look where their money came from. That they, uh, venture capitalists. That their factories are. Where they making their stuff. Seems to be a lot of, like, standing on sand foundations, yelling at things. A lot of them. What's that. Where they making their stuff. Seems to be a lot of like standing on sand foundations yelling at things. A lot of them.

What's that called? Oh, Glass House. Glass House, yeah. Don't throw rocks. Don't throw those stones. Yeah, but people need to know like anything you say is inevitably going to be,

you know, the truth is always going to win at some point, you know? At some point. Nothing that anybody says matters. Yep. See, I was saying the complete opposite.

I was saying like you might get a good pop right now. You might get a good pop out of this, but inevitably at some point, it'll all come back around, I think. So everybody that's yelling about stuff, especially these golfers, what if it's $250 million offered to Rory next year? Is Rory going to say no again, or is there a chance that Rory at some point in his career ends up in this golf tour, and then it's a whole conversation about like oh they'll hate rory even more yeah because

of at the beginning he was so against it now he changed he's a complete like i just feel like it's a very interesting we don't know how this is gonna end up i don't think any of these golfers know how it's gonna end up i appreciate the fact some are standing up for the pga tour like hey we're about legacy and this is what we have done and they they've been good to us, which is what Phil has said, but who knows where money's going to come from what next year, two years from now, we're entering a recession, allegedly. So people have deep pockets are probably going to buy up a lot of shit. That's just kind of how the world works. I think if you learned anything from 2008 and I would assume back in the day, whenever it happened, the people who have a shit ton of money, which probably aren't necessarily the cleanest forms of getting money,

they're going to buy up everything. Like that is going to happen in the middle of this recession. So literally the houses people are in are probably going to be funded at some point by people that aren't necessarily great people. So I just, are we going to put a stop to it? And then what do we do with all that money? Live buys the tour. Live buys the PGA tour.

Well, that's what I'm saying. Like these live people are the pga people are great uh donahan danahan monahan monahan jay monahan gave his speech and it's like what happens when they go to the pga tour and say hey we'll buy you for fucking three billion dollars and pga goes all right okay it's actually we'll do that then what does that do and i guess that can't happen or won't happen is what everybody's assuming but money over when you see that money like it's one thing if you're a player on tour probably and say oh come on now like i i love the pga tour i want to win majors i want to do all this but then when if the live people actually contact you and the dude's agents

like hey man uh just want to let you know i I've got to at least show you this offer. They're willing to give you a 150 mil guaranteed if you play the first two years worth of events. And that's coming tomorrow. And that, by the way, that check is – It's a lot different when you have that sitting in front of you. That check is not bouncing either. No. That check is showing up right there in front of you.

Now, I know life is good. You might be able to win a million, 1.2 million this weekend if you beat the other 100 guys that are going from there. It might be. But your family would never have to pay for a single thing ever again. You will be good forever. Next generation, generation after, generation after. Just for this deal, let alone the next deal,

if they continue to do well. And this is just a signing bonus. I don't even think these are contracts that these guys are signing. Is Uncle Sam getting a piece of that? Of course that of course yeah oh so it's good for the economy well it's great for the state that those guys live in our tax is good for the economy i mean i don't want to dive into this even more but i guess if we have to oh yeah then that tax money is dirty well then america's taking what the fuck is amer doing? Can't have that. Shut it down. They're not doing rides, I don't think.

They are in Indiana. We need a European-style train system. So then you need to... You can't tax them then, right? Are they not going to be allowed to tax these guys because then it's dirty tax money? I would like to see what they do. That's interesting. I would like to see that decision made. They do not care. What?

Who are you talking about? don't care no no no i can't have that people stand right in front of microphones broad shoulder chins up this is despicable i don't care if it's from this is disgusting what's going on right now you're telling me that those same people probably have and will at some point no way connor they don't care if they're wearing diamonds on their finger pat or around their neck as long as that check is going to the government the government doesn't mind whatsoever you're lying no i'm not i don't like this is some of that conspiracy shit yeah no conspiracies this is real i think that's what our entire angle is, though, by the way. Like, we don't support what has happened in that country in the past and other countries in the past and in a lot of places in the world in the past.

But taking a grandstand morally on money because it's something, it's like, who do you think has all the fucking money? Usually, it's people that aren't great. Usually, they accrue their wealth by doing things that aren't necessarily fantastic so if we're going to get into this let's fucking do it hey let's do it let's go ahead let's let's i don't think that's going to happen huh i don't think you're going this is going to be a successful uh thing for you if you really want to break this down yeah i heard everybody tweeting about phil and dustin and kevin i people are very passionate tweeting about it

and they're doing it same way yeah same way all the Giz Lane book is going to come out, too. Where's that? Well, she wants to be transferred right now. Well, it's a much nicer jail in the U.K., I've heard. But that has nothing to do with what we were talking about. Well, maybe, actually. Yeah, it kind of does. Not 100% sure.

I guess that's an entire other conversation. But, you know, every time you tweet on Twitter, it builds the value of Twitter, which helps its investors, which one of the biggest ones, I think the biggest one and longest one, Saudi Arabia. So literally when people are looking to get retweets on Twitter off of tweets pissed off about what Phil and all of them are doing, you're directly affecting the pockets of Saudi Arabia potentially. Now, I don't want to be the person. I hate that I'm the person pointing this out because I'm not an economics major or anything like that. But I do believe that is also happening. Disney movies? I mean, that's... Can't do that. You hop in an Uber, you give a five-star,

guess what you're doing? You're giving a five-star. What about Lyft? Lyft might be good. Could be. I'm positive. I guess there's an entire series about the founding of Uber. There is. I watched the first couple episodes. Pretty interesting. I watched the first episode. I hate that dude. Joseph Gordon-Levitt.

Yeah. I just can't get into his shit. You got to stick around for Coach Taylor. He's kind of the guy who gives him all the money. He's good. What show? It's called Super Pumped, I think. Yeah, because his message around the office is,

let's be super pumped about it. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. I saw some of that. Go ahead, Ty, though. It's about the Uber founding. Yeah, it's about getting the seed money and how it went, like the battle that they went through with the cab companies in New York

and San Francisco because that was like the public transit. Taxis. Yeah, exactly. That was a massive thing. It was worth millions. Yeah, exactly. New York taxis. Right.

Yeah. My wife started watching it, and I started watching it, and I just can't get into that guy. It's pretty good. I never finished it, and I just can't get into that guy. It's pretty good. I never finished it, but yeah. It is good. The supporting characters who were major players in it, too, are very interesting.

Why do I not like that guy, you think? What's the deal? I mean, the guy who's playing in that. Jared Leto did the WeWork one. Watch that. Yeah, WeWork. Oh, I seen that one. I was watching that.

Jared Leto is good. That is Jared Leto in there. He has an accent, right? Mm-hmm. And he has a little facial prosthetics. And Anne Hathaway, she is a very great actor because she is very hateable in that whole series. Yeah, I've watched that. The Wee Officer, I never heard of that.

It seemed like a brilliant concept. Genius. Wee Worker. Co-Hatch, they're around. I didn't know that those existed in the form that they did, and I didn't know it was a $50 billion valuation. Just leasing buildings? Kind of. Well, I haven't got the end. spoilers please i've not watched yeah he made out okay

is he in jail what no he's not in jail he's doing great he's good all right let's talk about sports um is bob coming uh is he yeah i think so. Yeah, call Bob. He really got into it last night with the Coldplay, folks. Yes, he did. Stop what you get for not using SeatGeeks. He's gone to A. We've had big-time rolling blackouts here, too. He's gone after the local power companies as well. Yeah, I saw him. He's on a warpath.

Jesus. Hey, he's right. We slept in the basement last night. No power. I like cold. What? That's no cool. 900 degrees. It's cooler down there, yeah. No, allegedly. It's. Hey, he's right. We slept in the basement last night. No power. I like... What? That's no power. 900 degrees. It's cooler down there, yeah.

No, allegedly. It's so quiet, too. We have no power with anything, too. Like, just... It's crazy. That's the worst. So we lost the internet at my house the other day. All my TVs are internet-based TVs.

I'm no longer hooked up to really cable. That was tough. Yeah. I don't know. It felt like I was Amish. Yeah. It felt like I was Amish yeah i was in air conditioning okay i was able to have lights and i was cooking and everything like that i could use my phone but

it had 5g but at night not being able to have a tv to just play oh i couldn't do it i'm fucking mentally weak dude bob might not be able to bob just texted me and said he might might be patchy with it because the power okay power came back on and now they turned it back off so jesus it's it's ridiculous he's his phone tell me he's his phone that he is so where bob lives for some reason cell service is awful too but call him definitely for sure i'm just saying it might be choppy zito says not even worth going to him right now with how choppy it is i mean what you just said too with like how your tvs are on your net base that's where you have to make the decision do i hot spot my phone and not be able to use my phone, or do I just ride it out and watch it on your phone?

That's such a difficult decision. I didn't even know the hotspot would even power that. Your hotspot better have good service in that area, because a lot of times it won't. I've never used my phone as a hotspot, by the way. It works. Nothing but respect for the other people that do it, and I see them whenever it pops up when I'm looking for Wi-Fi.

I see somebody's hotspot. Oh, Jill's hotspot right over here. Oh, Jake's over here. And joining us now in Ohio with no service, no power, a man who got bamboozled by StubHub, hopped on a private plane for a 50th birthday party to go down and see Coldplay in Tampa Bay. Gets on a flight, get down to Tampa Bay.

It's thick. It's hot. It's Tampa. It's Champa. Oh, my God. I'm going to go see Coldplay in a suite that we purchased for this 50 birthday

party. Hell yeah. Gets down there. StubHub says, sorry about it. Fake tickets. You don't have any tickets anymore. We can't help you. We can get you in the fucking building though if you want. Bob says, no. We wanted a suite. We bought a suite. I'm a good friend. We're good friends. Not terrible friends who hop on private planes to sit in

the fucking nosebleeds. StubHub said, sorry about it. And immediately everybody, all they thought was you need to use SeatGeek if you're going to anything that involves ticketing, not StubHub or any of these other places. And that's what the lesson was learned by this man. An absolute stud, superstar,

morning radio show host in Columbus, Ohio. Still works out with the Buckeyes. Former member of the Ohio State linebacker corps that just wrecks shop on everybody. Dallas Cowboy, ladies and gentlemen, the General Bobby Carpenter. Hey, Bobby! What's up, dude? Hey, you know, my first mistake, man, I didn't realize, and I wasn't in charge.

I simply tried to deal with the problem, you know, like that. Your job is to bail the team out. It may have been fourth and 18, and you're standing in your own end zone. They tell you, hey, flip the field. I don't care if the wind's in your face. I don't care if they've got a 10-man rush. Just get the ball out of there and bang that thing. So that's what I came in, is we're literally on the point.

He's like, yeah, I don't think we're going to get the sweet. I'm like, well, what do you mean? He's like, well, we paid for it. And then there's some stuff that happened earlier today. And then they issued us these seats. And the seats were not near what we had hoped. It's a party, you know, Pat. You want to be in a suite, hanging out with your friends. It was brutal.

It was absolutely brutal. And like I said, if I would have been in charge of this, dude, I would have been on SeatGeek from the beginning, thanks to you and your fine, fine group of fellows that let me know, man. Okay, well. That's where it should have been. I will let you know that you had to experience that for us all to get to experience this. Bingo. And I'm sorry the way your night went down there with Coldplay.

Your sky, your sky full of stars How was it? You guys were on some drugs and shit? Loosen the jeans? A lot of flags? I'm not really much of a drug guy. I'm a big drinker. I consumed a ton.

I mean, it was balmy. You know, you got a full sweat going on. But I'm going to be honest, man. Like, getting down there, getting in. You know, my good friend who was putting it together, he actually talked his way and he greased a couple palms i'm not sure how much he spent to some of the good folks that were working at raymond jay at least got us like into the club level so we can get out

of that just 90 degree sweat box get some drinks be able to kind of enjoy the night a little bit so that was good but i'm gonna be honest man We've been sitting here watching the special teams meet. I'm running down there. I'm looking, trying to cover the ball. You feel the wall getting set up and the next thing you know, bam, like looking up at the sky. Blindsided.

Just getting blindsided. Oh, terrible. Yeah, you didn't sign up. You didn't sign up for a 96 degree, 100% humidity, Coldplay concert at Raymond James Stadium in Tampa Bay. What you guys signed up for

was that Suite Life with the air conditioning, and especially at a Coldplay, and I said flags, if you've ever seen their, there's like it's a full festival, I think. I'm actually very jealous that you went and had a good time. Not jealous of your experience though, but thankful that you had your experience and how terrible it was, because the fine people

at SeatGeek said, since Bob had to suffer, everybody else gets the benefit. What? That's right. Right now, you click the link in the description right here at youtube.com forward slash the Pat McAfee show. They are giving 20% off

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That's unreal. I feel like Maximus at the end of Gladiator. It's no more than one good man's life. Who will help me carry him? I mean, can you guys at least kind of carry me off and give me like a nice burial? I mean, holy smokes. And I come back to this.

AJ's telling me, we don't even have air conditioning at my house. He's like, limited cell service. I got our fridges outside. Like, it's a mess, dude. We got generators everywhere. I mean, this is absolutely, quit laughing, bro. It is atrocious. I slept on this is absolutely quit laughing bro. It is

On the floor of our radio studio last night Got it free had to be in there five And like I walk in my producers like what are you doing? I'm like, dude if I go to sleep I got nothing to wake me up. I got no way to charge my phone at my house. We have no power We have no air conditioning. Our pets' heads are falling off. They would sleep in the car. I mean, absolutely, dude. It was just, oh. Bob, I wanted to ask you about that.

It seems like there's a never-ending string of things that we need you to fight for. Now, I slept in the basement with all my kids. No sound, no nothing going on. It was 9,000 degrees. Like, am I going to do that again tonight because then the power came put your boots on bob the power came back on bob and then i heard they shut us back off what's going on is this a political deal oh boy that's what i that's

what i kind of feel i feel like we live in a third world country now i mean they turn the power off they turn it on i mean this is insanity i got who do you need to talk to work it well i got some good buddies that work at aep, and it's not the folks outside. Those dudes are out there busting their butt 100 degrees. But, I mean, the fact that we have zero game plan, like, oh, wait, it's 96 degrees. Our power grid isn't very good. Everybody's ACs are going to kick on all through the Midwest. I know it's hot in Indy.

It's hot in West Virginia. It's hot in Illinois. It's hot in Ohio. Everywhere, man, it is insane right now. And this is the best plan we have. I had to go over to Ohio State to get a little bit of a workout in, in the AC because it was so stinking hot at my house. Don't you have an HVAC company?

I mean, this is bad news for the entire business of Carpenter over there. Well, listen, we can put it in, but we can't charge. I don't have a way, a generator. I'm not going to ride a bicycle out there beside it to make sure they have the juice We can put it in, but we can't charge. I don't have a way, a generator. I'm not going to ride a bicycle out there beside it to make sure they have the juice to be able to get that thing going. I want to let you know I'm not laughing at you. I'm laughing with you. It sounds like your life is a movie right now.

You go to a concert in Tampa Bay humidity, which is, we were down there for a lot. We were down there for a span of six months every single week. It is a sauna. We were down there for like a span of six months every single week. Cool. It is a, it's a sauna. Yes, nothing to mess with. Tampa is a sauna, especially with the water right there.

So that like cooks into the air even more. So you can feel it when you're down there. But Coldplay will let you, help you forget about that. Don't worry, get back to Ohio, be able to get to your bed, be able to kind of sleep it off, rest it off. Oh no, no power, no internet, no nothing. Bob, if it, a weaker man wouldn't be able to come of sleep it off, rest it off. Oh, no. No power, no internet, no nothing.

Bob, a weaker man wouldn't be able to come on this show right now and fucking put on a performance you put on, and that's the difference, as it says right there on your shirt, Bob. I'm going to be honest with you, Pat. My neighbor's got a generator going, so therefore he has his Wi-Fi locked in. I was literally about to walk down there if this wasn't going to work, hop on his stuff, get outside. You got a pool in the background.

It would have been a tremendous view for you all to be able to sit there and enjoy it. But that's what I was willing to do for you guys is to make sure that I could help you out. You know, just like AJ's taking me out sleeping with the kids. I mean, AJ, I thought you put the kids somewhere else. I mean, can't you and Lori go slide over there? I mean, it's nice and hot and steamy. I mean's that's just kind of how you like it man yeah another yeah yeah just say it was out tonight bob i'll come over to your house i'll be with you bring everybody over we've learned a lot about the hawks and the carpenter team party you drop the kids off if you want to drop the kids off dude we got that nice big base so just

put them all in there. You and Lori can have a little night to yourself. I mean, get some Coldplay playing. I mean, help set the mood. It'll be a really nice atmosphere. All right. Last question for you here. We understand you're in the middle of, you're entrenched in battle right now with powers that are much stronger than you. And even though... Get the power back on,

please. Yeah, please get the power back on for all the people of Ohio. It's fantastic. AJ's having no problem on the show. Yeah, I was going to say. Internet good and his power's good. I appreciate you, AJ, finding the right generator to really power your house. But everybody else needs it as well. Do you find it, and we might have asked you about this before, but I feel like we put it into your sphere,

so now you might have thought about it more. When you were not working out with the Ohio State team, did they win a national championship? They have not won a national championship since Bob stopped working out with the Ohio State team. Did they win a national championship? They have not won a national championship since Bob stopped working out with them. Do you think there's, and you said you had a little workout and air conditioning. Do we need to make this a regular thing? Do we need to get the Ohio State standard back to where it needs to be? I understand they're out 13 million already.

AJ was talking to Ryan Day the other day. He had a whistle around his neck while dropping off his kid. That guy's trying to coach his ass off. Is Ohio State still Ohio State or is NIO about to take this place out? And when are you getting back in the gym with the boys to let them know we don't fucking lose to Michigan? I'm going to tell you this. I went over there.

That's where I came straight away from, man. I was getting a little workout. The guys are working hard. They're going to be ready to go. It's a steam box. It's a sweat box. Whatever little I can contribute to try to help bring that standard up, make sure we're getting great players.

Ryan Day is coaching his balls up. Ohio State is going to be fine, man. I promise you that. And I've been over the last two days to kind of help get myself right to make sure that I'm pushing myself. We've got to bring your boy A.J. in, though. That's the problem. Like, he doesn't want to come around much.

They want him around. Like, the recruits want to see this guy. They want to see the legend, the dude that's got the Lombardi. I mean, all the stuff that he has. I mean, this dude, when he moved out, Pat, he left the Lombardi in his college basement to kind of leave that on to the

next group. I mean, they had to go take it back to the linebacker, Coach Fickle, and he had to call his dad. AJ wouldn't even return his call. He didn't even care about the trophy, man. He's just all about playing ball. Yeah, AJ, why don't you go? Do you hate Ohio State, AJ? Sounds like it. That was not an award from Ohio State,

Pat, but I don't know if that's true. I don't know if I really left it in the basement. I think maybe I was moving out and I was like, oh no, I should grab it. It's down there. I'm pretty sure that's not how it worked because I had to call Pistol to have him go pick it up for you. Yeah, Pistol does have a pistol. Yeah, it's at your dad's.

So, Leinert's got the Heisman in his closet. Right. He thought it was a bunch of clothes. AJ got the Lombardi and was like, yeah, yeah, just put it in there. We'll be right here, pal. See you later, man. See, I get zero concussions. I haven't sacrificed that much for this thing.

I don't need it. I don't deserve it. Imposter syndrome. Fucking get this thing away from me. what's the deal dude you don't like ohio state you're never around you hate the lombardi i mean i'm sorry i love ohio state and i am around more and i'm gonna be around more i went to uh i think i told you on here before pat bob a couple years ago i mean how many years ago this was i don't know i was there with james larinitis we were doing a little serious show and we were sitting back watching camp and we're

talking and all of a sudden i forget we i asked someone like is bob here and you know james said no i don't think so and then three minutes later bob came prancing by running like bob's classic prance really his you know his ass is halfway up his back and he's jogging by doesn't even see me and james and he just cruises by and he goes in and he gets his hand his like hands on his knees and he starts watching like the D-line go through individual. And I was like, Bob, I think he's coaching these guys. Why aren't you doing that, AJ? The more brains, the better.

You're losing to Michigan now. Yikes. That was a while ago, Bob. Bob, you're entrenched there, Bob. It's impressive, the impact Bob can have. Connor, your question for General Bob. Yeah, General, I don't know if you know this, but Pat is actually stepping into the movie,

critic movie review business, and this weekend is Casino and Armageddon. Any thoughts on those movies, and do you have any recommendations possibly going forward? I like Casino. I think it's really good. I like Armageddon. It's kind of a sucker's movie.

Obviously, it's a little bit far-fetched and kind of ridiculous, but for sheer entertainment purposes, it's just not terrible. What I'm really disappointed in, Pat, you've got to tell me this, because I was juiced about Jurassic Park, and then I saw your review on that. And I'm going to be honest, dude, I was shook. Like, I was crushed. What? It's just not, like, if Top Gun's at 10, what are we putting the new Jurassic Park at?

Actual 2.5. Yeah. Oh, gosh. Come on. You can't do that to me. You can't do that to me. Listen, tone is a part of the Jurassic cult. I didn't watch it growing up,

so I don't have the nostalgia love for it as a kid. Whenever you watch something, I'm like that with Dumb and Dumber, I think. If I was to watch it again, I'd be like, okay, but Dumb and Dumber was terrible. It's all bad. So any of the movies that I've watched as a again, I'd be like, okay, but dumb and dumber was terrible. So bad. So I've never really any of the movies that I've watched as a kid that have had sequels. Never good.

Like never good because I don't watch any good movies. I've never seen it. So I don't have the nostalgia from as a child watching Jurassic Park for the first time. So I'm just going in there as a blank canvas. Tone, though, super cultist of the Jurassic world. Also disappointed mightily by the movie. Yeah, I gave it a 5 out of 10. It's bad, Bob.

Really? Storylines was just all over the place. Callbacks were good. So, like, you do get some enjoyment out of that if you are a fan of the program. But other than that... Are you a movie critic, Bob? Yeah, but I love...

Game of Thrones. I'm too easy on... I love Game of Thrones, but I'm too easy on, I'm too easy on movies. I have a hard time being ultra critical of them. But you're going to tell me that like, that's like saying a football game is good because you honored like the Superbowl team from 10 years ago at halftime. Like that doesn't make a better game.

Like just bring a call back. You just can't drop people in and say, this is going to make the situation better. You're going to give me some plot lines, some development, character development, all those great things. Bobby, they rolled the ball in the field. They thought they were just going to be able to win. They just rolled the ball in the field. I mean, it is not good, General.

I'm telling you, I didn't want it. I didn't want it to be that way. I wanted to become a fan, bigger fan. Chris Pratt, Ty's telling me, hey, Chris Pratt, one of the biggest actors on earth, A-list superstar, needle mover. I go in there, I'm like, all right, I'm getting a chance to watch Chris Pratt do his thing the biggest actors on earth, A-list superstar, needle mover. I go in there. I'm like, all right, I'm getting a chance to watch Chris Pratt do his thing because I've seen a couple episodes where he's a little overweight in the office. Sure.

Parks and Rec. Same idea. Same idea. Yeah, yeah, same thing. I've seen that whole thing. Now he's bonafide superstar. Ty talks him up literally three times a week at the kitchen. I was excited to learn about this guy.

Here we go. This guy was homeless, surfing in Hawaii. If he got to Hawaii, very expensive to get there, so he probably spent his money poorly. Nonetheless, it was a homeless guy, got into the whole thing. I was excited to see this guy. Maybe my new favorite actor. I don't know.

He's going to have to hop into a Mission Impossible, I think, next to really save this whole thing. That's going to hurt me because he's so good in Guardians of the Galaxy, man. It's one of the Avengers stuff. Chris Pratt is funny. He's like a legit funny action star, which is really hard to straddle that line. They must not have

given him a good script. You've got to give your guys some good plays to be able to put this thing together. You're right. You're 100% right. I won't judge Chris Pratt just off of that movie. How about that? I like that. That's a good thought. Look at me. I'm evolving. Just like you. Good luck out there.

What's the difference, Shredder? Is that the Ohio State motto this year, be the difference? That's actually our boy, Anthony Schlegel, which you might need to have him on sometime because he's like a wild animal that you let out of the cage. So this is his little company for a striking machine that he has. He's got dudes going for football. Well, I know he's Urban Meyer's guy.

Urban Meyer needed to turn Jacksonville Jaguars around. He said, there's only one person. Give me Schlegel. That's right. Give me Schlegel. And I don't know if it worked out. I don't know what Schlegel's thoughts are on the whole situation, but is he still there?

Is he still down in Jacksonville or Schlegel done on her? He is. He's down there. They fired him. He's still living. They were trying to get him to move back here to Midwest. So he's got three kids. They're like in high school and stuff now. So it's a little tough for him him. He's still living. They were trying to get him to move back here to Midwest. So he's got three kids. They're in high school and stuff now.

So it's a little tough for him. You guys got no power. You got no internet. I think it's going to be a tough sell right now. Jacksonville at least is hot as balls. But we appreciate Schlegel's sacrifice to the cause. Same with you. Ladies and gentlemen, the man who saved football, movie critic,

General Bobby Carpenter. Hey, whoa! Brian will be joining us here any moment, I believe. Obviously, left tackle for the New England Patriots. 6'8", 380 pounds. Absolute stud. Runs the TB77 Cares Foundation. He's taking care of the world.

And also, a man who had to go to Juke Club before going to college for making it into the NFL. An incredible story that has become an incredible football player. Loves the outdoors. Loves moving bodies. Hell yeah. Super Bowl champion. Member of the New England Patriots.

Just signed a new two-year extension with the New England Patriots. Ladies and gentlemen, Trent Brown. Yeah! What's up, man? What's up, man? What's up, everybody? How y'all doing? Hey, I heard from the back you were just walking around that massive house you have because you're a massive human with a massive roof over your head, pal.

No, I think that'd be it, man. It's not that big. Hey, congrats on everything, by the way. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it. Hey, no problem.

I looked into your story a little bit. Juco to Florida. Obviously, the seventh round pick with the Niners and the Patriots and Raiders back to the Patriots. Your story is one that a lot of people will learn from and watch. Being 6'8", 380 pounds, it was almost like it was working against you there for a little bit. People thought you were too big. You weren't going to be able to handle it. Now there's allegedly a deal in there.

You can't go over 381 pounds. How much of that is bullshit? How much of it is genuine conversation, TB? A lot of it is bullshit, honestly. But I mean, I think from the get-go, I've always kind of been sure of myself

and my abilities to perform at a high level, especially after my rookie year, just being able to. I started like the last six games and I shared pretty well against some top tier pass rushers at the time. And I just I think that's when the light really came on for me that I could really do this and I could do it for as long as I wanted. And here we are going into year eight, back with the Patriots. Hopefully this will be my final home.

Back with the Patriots, I think obviously there's always a ton of attention on what you guys are doing there. What's Mac Jones like in your time that you've been around him? He's such a polarizing figure that seems to be always positive always doing and saying the right things is that like what he's really like no he's really like that uh mac is always first one in the building last one out uh he's and and for him to be such so young and and have a lot of weight on his shoulders you wouldn't be able able to tell the way he carries himself. He's a fun guy.

He shoots the shit from time to time, but he handles his business day in and day out. So I respect the kid as much as anyone else in the locker room. Yeah, you two have to have a great relationship, obviously, while she's blinds high, that entire thing. What has it been like up there in New England? Obviously, you've been around now. You're with the Patriots. There's two different stints. What do you been like up there in New England? Obviously, you've been around now. You're with the Patriots. There's two different stints.

What do you think is the difference with New England versus other places you have been? Is it that big of a difference where everybody talks about, oh, the New England way, the New England way, or is it just accountability? Is that a little bit higher standard? I think accountability is at a higher standard, and I just believe, as you guys know,

in doing business, in any business, especially this one, you can you can be bullshitted. People can yank your tail. They can pull you, yank you around. And, you know, I'm not necessarily tell you the truth. But here I just respect it just because I know what I'm going to get day in and day out. And I know I'm going to get the truth day in and day out from top to bottom. and I know I'm going to get the truth day in and day out from top to bottom. And I think that's what matters most. We do business and conduct business as men, and we're led as men as well.

So I think that's what I can respect most about this place. Matt Patricia is the new offensive line coach. He was with you, obviously, in your first stint there. Has that been – what's that? Matty P was my first year here back in 2018. Matty P was the head coach in Detroit. Oh, so you've never been with Matt Patricia before. What's he like? I've been around him as a person.

Awesome human. Yeah, great guy. Awesome human. I enjoyed – He's two people. I love him. You enjoy it? What are you learning in year eight?

Anything from him? I think just his perspective coming from the other side of the ball and doing that so well at a high level for so long uh the perspective he'll be able to give us uh defensively and why the end of who what when we're in wide department i think that'll help us uh take strides uh this year huge strides this year. Bill Belichick said fullback isn't a position in our offense anymore. Have you realized any changes this offseason been more in learning a new offense or anything like that, or are you all just kind of adjusting?

I think we're kind of adjusting. I don't think they – I think we're still going to, we're still going to play New England football by the end of the day. We just, we just changed a few things

here and there. And we, I think a lot of people will be pleased with what we, what they put together and what we've been able to put together

this offseason and going into this fall. Have you ever played against somebody or stepped onto the field and said, damn, that dude is huge? Anywhere. Have you ever played against somebody or stepped onto the field and said, damn, that dude is huge? Anywhere. Have you ever thought somebody's big?

Nah. You a big baby, too? Like, as a baby, you were just big? Like, all like peewee football, high school, junior high, high school, JUCO, college, you've always been the biggest motherfucker on the field? For the most part, yeah. How does that feel? That has to feel good, huh?

Especially at a position where you're supposed to outpower people. When I first got to junior college, we had a guy named Daniel McCullers who he was with the Steelers for a while. I'm not sure if he still is. And we also had a guy named Marcus Perry. So we were all around the same size.

How's your knees? Great. Really? So you're just built different than everybody else, huh? Yeah. How nice is that? Have you been able to? Lovely, lovely, lovely.

Let me knock on wood. No, have you always been able to move, though? There was never like the growth spurt where you got awkward, or you just have always been a big mobile athletic guy? Yeah, I have. I think we can give credit to my dad for that one i've always uh i never played with my a's group growing up so i've always played i always had to play skill positions because i was undersized because i didn't play with my age group so my first

position in football was running back quarterback i played everything i didn't stop playing all until i got to high school so uh i think that's that's where the feet came from and then even in basketball i played guard i was about to say you're a hooper you got to be a hooper yeah still got it for so it's just like riding a bike what's the heaviest you've ever gotten to uh like 387 is 380 where the body naturally at, you think? This is like your natural weight here? It depends on, I guess it depends on how I'm eating that off-season or whatever. But right now, I'm at 370.

Oh, Slim, is that on purpose? For sure. I got to get this money. Go ahead, Connor. I think not even just for the money part, but just longevity and extending my career and just accepting the challenge and being grateful for myself, my family, my team, and my room and being able to lead properly in my office and line room. And that's, you know what I mean?

able to lead uh properly uh my in my office line room and that's you know i mean you can't lead if you're not doing everything that you can do to be on the field week in week out bill bill talk to you about that nah it's just our perspective i think some people you know when you you can even you can even look at the weight clause as damn man i i haven't done enough already to earn the money or or you can look at it as shit. Is this an opportunity for me to continue being great? Go ahead, Connor, massive Patriot fan. Yeah, Trent, this team kind of feels, and I kind of got this vibe last year, is a very close team.

Is that something you can attest to? And do you guys hang out outside of the building and kind of just shoot the shit? Most definitely. I mean, we had a great off-season program um i'm and i kind of i'm i'm excited about this fall honestly we we we worked our asses off together uh we made sure we hung out outside of the building and we just been supporting each other overall and whatever each each guy individually has going on so i'm really excited about what we

have going on and coming it's coming into this fall and and i really truly believe that our love for one another has grown tremendously hey what do you got cooking down in the land i'm reading about this right now i just got it sent over you got a a gym a performance center the greatest underdog performance facility then there's a studio in there where jimmy fallon ch Young Thug. Hey, good luck in there. Good luck in there. Young Thug, Future, Lil Dark, and many other have recorded. Are you a big-time businessman off the field? That's incredible.

This is good news. Let's go, TB. I'm trying to expand my portfolio, but I think with content being so heavily sought after these days, I think with having the training facility in the studio and just continuing to try to bridge the gap between entertainers and athletes, I think we'll be able to do a lot with guys being able to train and get the content at the same time and being all under one roof. And if you want to train and then you want to go to the studio and, you know what I mean, write a song or record a song or do you want to go have a family photo shoot right after, you know, you can do whatever. The opportunities are endless at Ace Book and Grace Underdog Gym. Hey, that's amazing.

It's right in the middle of Atlanta. Hey, I like that you're a businessman too. Did you negotiate your own deal with New England or no? No, I didn't. Okay, I thought it was a rumor. It's a goal of mine. What's that? That's a goal of mine, though, for sure.

Always been in the business? Did it just kind of creep in over the last few years? It's really been kind of creeping in over the last few years. Over the course of my career, I've really just been holding on to a lot of cash, just trying to really see what I'm really interested in outside of ball. And I know I'm interested in outdoors, and I know I'm interested in working out, which is a lifestyle in itself. So I think I just was able to and lucky to be a part of such a great opportunity

and hopefully being presented to the rest of the world and their stand here whenever. You spent money on that house, though. Hey, that house is nice. You deserve it. Hey, you worked your ass off, man. You absolutely deserve it. Go ahead, Tone Diggs.

Trent, has anyone ever beat you with a bull rush or do people just not even try? So really, I like to try i kind of try to play my game to where that's all i give guys the opportunity to do because i'm so big a lot of moves may not really move me off my spot so they have to come through me that's how i try to play the game uh and then that's, it's just hard work for them. Hey, what was, whenever, you know, you break the huddle, all right, ready, you get up there. And then Bill Belichick's playing center, you know,

and he's out there pointing. Is there anything you got to think about while he's snapping the ball versus Andrews or anybody else? And what did you think of his form out there with Mac Jones and OTAs? Well, I think I saw Dave say something about putting a little more zip on that snap but other than that I think he was pretty good everybody has this image of Bill Belichick that he's like this obviously intimidating figure and he's obviously the best GM and coach in the history of the NFL the biggest league of

all time what's your relationship like with him? Nah, Bill, cool as shit, honestly. I think a lot of people have his personality misconstrued just because he – and that's another thing I love about him. We keep – here with the Patriots, we keep shit in-house, you know what I mean? And whatever people speculate on the outside is just what they speculate, but they'll never really get any truth from inside the building. So I think that's just all a part of his personality and how he plays the media, but inside the building, man, he's a cool guy.

Super cool. A lot of pressure. I can see AJ's face. He wants to know, does Bill have any of the same tattoos as you? Nah. Nah. Nah. Have you wanted... Is Bill squatting there? We saw a picture of Bill squatting

and it looked like maybe 375 or more. Is he always in there doing that? I've never seen that picture, but I know he'll get... I know he'll get on the treadmill for about two hours a day. Beast. Don't you watch Filmwise on there? Yeah. How's your film study?

Anybody out of nowhere give you a problem, or do you have it basically figured out at this point? For me, I'm not really big on film study. I watch film. We watch film together as a group and with the team. But for me, I feel like we go out and work on technique day in and day out. So there's kind of like I'd rather allow my technique than watching film and expecting this move here first third down after the halftime.

And then I'm sitting on this move and it doesn't come. And then I'm looking like an asshole. You know what I mean? So I feel like if I just allow my technique and what I do, I'll be fine. It's worked thus far, so I don't see why I change it up. Do you try to get to a spot, or what are you trying to do every single time? Because Joe Thomas, what was Joe Thomas' technique was, hey, I'm going to do my technique, I'm going to get to a spot,

and nobody's going to do anything. And I think Peter's was a little bit different, right? Where do you kind of find the balance, and is there any other tackles that you look at for film? I get to my spot, and I don't really watch any other tackles either just because, you know, for a while there, early on in my career, me and Lane Johnson kind of had similar facets. But I think there's nobody my size, stature, and really kind of plays, I guess, the way I do.

Nobody. You know what I mean? So I try to just do my own thing. You try to get to a spot, though? Is that the key to every tackle? Most definitely. You got to. Once you get to the spot, and the spot can move.

The spot is wherever you decide to start the fight. You know what I mean? So I think I just get to my spot depending on the rest of depending on his initial alignment and blah blah like i go from there get to my spot and wherever the intersect is an intersecting point is between me him and the quarterback that's where i try to land myself right there in the middle there's a photo of you and aaron donald from the super bowl i'm sure you've seen it before. But everybody has nightmares about Aaron Donald. It's like your best game, best performance.

And I assume he's saying the same thing about you. Is there guys out there that keep you up at night before the game? Or are you just like they're keeping up, they're staying up for you? No, I think we – I wouldn't say anybody's staying up for me. You know, Dennis don't really stand up for nobody else. But at the end of the day, we all got to tie our shoes and strap up the same way and go out there and play for 60 minutes. Yeah, but we ain't all 6'8", 380. We can tie our shoes.

Some just have a longer reach, a fucking much longer reach. Go ahead, Ty. Last question here. Trent, we appreciate you. Trent, in the playoffs last year, the 49ers had a play where they sent Trent Williams in motion, and he kind of served as the lead blocker. Are there any, and we also know the Patriots, a lot of tackles, catching touchdowns, and stuff like that in the past.

Are there any plans to maybe get you out in space with a full head of steam this year? Not at the moment, but I'm welcome to it. I'm open to it. You got hands? Trent, you got hands? Do you have any completions? I'm an all-around athlete, man. How come he's not throwing you the rock right there at the crossbar?

You know what I mean? A little goal line. If I do catch a touchdown, you can bet your last dollar I will be dunking it on the goal post. I will be getting fined. You're going to rip it right down. What do you mean? You're going to tear it down. Yeah, that goal post is shitting its pants thinking that you might get in there.

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It's definitely not a slight to win or anything. Listen, we don't think it's a bad thing either. We're just saying it has hit the internet numerous times and gone. And I appreciate the fact that you're like, nope, I'm not changing. I absolutely love it. Congrats on all the success. Keep going, man. We appreciate you. I appreciate you guys that you're like, nope, I'm not changing. I absolutely love it. Congrats on all the success. Keep going, man. We appreciate you.

I appreciate you guys. Ladies and gentlemen, Trent Brown. Yes, Trent! Anyway, Stevan, fucking your question, please. Look, man, I feel like I'm a part

of the show now. Hey, look, all right. Longest call of the year. My dad did say the bocce team this year is very good. Let's go! See, that's what the bocce team will come back and win.

Then the entire narrative about Plum always having these shit bag things happen to it. What about you, Devin? You like bocce ball, Devin? I called him the other night. I know. He's still on here. I can't fucking talk to you. I got a bocce game.

Devin doesn't know what bocce is. Devin has no idea. Devin, you know what bocce is? I don't know shit about bocce ball. Zero know what bocce is i know i don't know about bocce ball zero italians right i don't know first i'm a five zone but i don't know you know whoa that's tough this is like jimmy g's now they're saying she doesn't call it that's right look for david ridiculous all right what do you want to talk about man let's get to it already all right all right all right so watch it doesn't sound like there's going to be a happy ending there in Cleveland

with this whole Deshaun. All right, all right, all right, all right. That's it, okay. That's it. Hope you're happy, Deshaun. Yeah! Got me. What a call.

Ten minutes for that. He's getting buried in the comments for a long time and then totally redeems himself. Speaking of, Reggie Wayne's going to be an incredible coach, I think, in the NFL. Is he the receivers coach there? Yes. That's awesome. And Indy.

He's passionate. He's in. I think he genuinely has – obviously he has a lot of game to teach anybody. He'll be able to help them out, especially throughout his entire career. I think he evolved as a wide receiver from being, you know, second with Marvin there, then the guy, then the teacher to T.Y. I mean, he is going to fucking be a great coach, I think, just by looking his mic up.

Tom Diggs, his face just lit up. I can't break this news. It's too big. I can't do it. All right. With his face, this is something toxic. Yeah. Justin, Dr. Anthony Fauci, the chief medical advisor to President Biden,

has tested positive for COVID-19. The National Institutes of Health have announced. This is not going to be good. Is it his first time? Oh, my God. I don't know how it would be his first time. That guy was living in COVID for a while, right? Yeah, in the lab.

Tony. Tony. It's your wall. Tony. Not on this program. Okay? Come on, Tony. I should have known how talkative he was.

What is Tony even saying, though? Well, his face whenever he reads it over there. I honestly think, like, maybe something happened in the NFL. Like, maybe Gumpy and Lisa got married. Yeah, that's what I thought. Yeah, I thought there was an update as well. And then, lo and behold, as soon as I opened the group text, of course, it's about Fash.

Is he okay? Is he going to be okay? I hope so. I don't know. How old is he? What bracket does he fall into? Statistics tell us. Is he completely boosted? Because Trudeau got it. Completely boosted. He said, thank God. Fash. I think Fash falls into the point 0-0-0-0- boosted. He said, thank God. Fouch.

I think Fouch falls into the.0000001 bracket. So he's okay? No. Not okay. That's what I think he said. Oh, so Fouch. What does fully boosted mean now? How many is that? Eighteen.

Is it really? I don't know. I have no idea. I have no clue. I think there's going to be a tough sell there after a couple. Yeah. Maybe we're still getting them. You know what I mean?

I still, I think it was going to be a tough sell there for a while. Once people got the vaccine and still ended up testing positive, I think a lot of people. I get a lot of people that attack me. How do you feel, you liberal piece of shit? You got your vaccine, still got it. I was getting those. I'm like, all right. Okay.

I just alright I got fucking murdered for that by a lot of people I assume Fouch is getting a lot of the similar attacks here today Fouch is in peak physical condition he's going to be fine can't throw but he can bike and run

for sure if we would have got to see him take BP could have been a different story too Dingers all day He might be like Golden Tate in there A natural Bang Spraying it Also people recalling that

We got the same facts as Bill Burr And we know what Bill Burr said about it Do you recall? I do not recall Okay His most recent stand up special Not including the The funny friends or whatever.

Night with friends. Friends that kill. Friends that kill. No, I don't remember. So what did he say? You know, he just said something. I believe Dave Chappelle also said the same thing about it. What are you trying to say, Connor?

What are you saying? Are you seeking other opinions to justify your own? I thought maybe you knew the part of the special that he... So are you living in a tunnel that is only like-minded thoughts? Is that what you're doing? Are you a part of the problem? No, I consume everything. I'll hear from everybody on all fronts.

He looks at all the memes. That's right. That's right. That's good research. Both the left, the right, the middle. I wonder if that is the new thing, and we'd have to ask Herbo, I guess. It is. Like, can't use Wikipedia, used to be our guess. It is. Like, can't use Wikipedia used to be our thing.

Now it's like, can't use memes. Is that what it is for your research papers and studies? Yeah. We weren't allowed to use Wikipedia. Fox, were you able to use Wikipedia? No. Really? How about your generation?

I used. I mean, me and Fox, you're the same age, but I used Wikipedia. I got in trouble for using it. Yeah, we are not allowed to source the thing that made everybody sourcing much easier. So you had to find it from there and then go find the actual thing, which is the game that we all had to play. Yeah, see, we changed the game, I think, because all you do is you get that from Wikipedia. You copy and paste probably three words from the sentence. Search that in Google.

Then a real article from like a.org. That's what he just said. .edu pops up, and then you don't use the Wikipedia. Well, since you took a shot at me, you took a shot at AJ's generation as well. AJ just said, boy, we fucking did that way before you. Oh, so you could use Wikipedia then. That was the exact same thing.

Right, but you had to go down to the bottom. That's what Pat just said. Find the references. Yeah, I assume now they're allowed to use Wikipedia. Probably can. I doubt it. Really? Well, they claim anyone can like edit that right who

can't look at anybody but how like if i wanted to how would i do there's a thing up in the top right corner that just says edit and if you have like an account you can go in and add whatever you want i think you have to donate i do that for ages what do you mean a wikipedia account i fucking hate when wikipedia comes panhandling yeah i know you have a billion people on your website if you can't figure out how to make money off of that fuck off okay sell some banner ads bingo that's yeah bingo you have everybody uses your website everybody if you're going bankrupt that's on you don't be telling me to fucking donate get out of here dude i did though a couple times because i do appreciate what they bring to us but i would like them to figure it out fucking

why don't they wikipedia how to run a fucking business? And then maybe that page will tell them how to do their thing. What's that, Tony? I forgot to defend myself. I didn't bring up the Fouch thing because I didn't want to be toxic or whatever. I forgot to defend myself. I did want to bring up the— It's like it's a piss.

I forgot to take a piss. I mean, you know, that's— I wanted to bring this up and tie it back to football because conveniently Fouch is supposed to testify tomorrow before the Senate about the pandemic, so it's convenient that he can't do that now.

Maybe remote. We got Dr. Allen. Don Snyder also isn't going to fucking go in front of the committee, so tied it back to football. What are we going to do now? Hey, way to defend yourself. That sounded like you really defended yourself there. Thank you. Yeah, thanks, Tone.

Yeah, Don Snyder, a true champion of misleading people with everything, has told the government, yeah, I'm not doing it. You call me into the House Oversight Committee for a conversation, me and Goodell. I have concerns about the due process of it all. I'm actually not going to go. So I believe what can happen, because this isn't a conversation, me and Goodell. I have concerns about the due process of it all. I'm actually not going to go. So I believe what can happen, because this isn't a trial, it's kind of like when people show up at your car or your house

and they go, we'd like to search, and you quote Jay-Z, like, well, you're going to need a warrant for that. And they're like, all right, hold tight. We will give a call here for a second. Yeah, we smelled some weed. All right, can you just text us that warrant real quick? Yeah, all right, here it is. Fuck off. I believe they can you just text us that warrant real quick? Yeah. All right, here it is.

Fuck off. I believe they can take this to— Can they subpoena him? That's what I'm saying. I believe they can take it to a level where he would be forced to go in there, but I assume he would just do the Fifth Amendment thing. I had no idea you were allowed to just say no to oversight committees, though, and that's what Dan Snyder's doing. And Dan Snyder does a lot of things that we have no idea is legal, I think.

I think that is something he is known for. I mean, I can understand him trying to get out of this. I mean, you think he really wants to sit up there and have people pepper him with questions? Next to Goodell, too, who is a master class speaker, you know? It's tough not to sit there and not say something to mess whatever's going on. Like, to stick to the script and not get knocked off your little script, that's an art to it and i think roger goodell has mastered it yeah you're gonna implicate yourself somehow no matter what your answer is and if you plead the fifth the public or somebody else too maybe like you might screw one of your buddies well speaking of screwing buddies i mean snyder

called papa john and said we need to get fucking goodell out of here yeah goodell and snyder are sitting right next to each other with the house oversight committee where they all have what three minutes i'm gonna use my time. Boom. And Goodell will be able to give his answer. You can ask him that question, though. Oh, there's conveniently a minute 30 left. Good luck, Dan.

Go ahead, Dan. Hey, you remember Papa John? You remember that whole thing? Go ahead. Give him your answer, Dan. So I assume Goodell won't say no, right? He probably can't. He probably doesn't look bad if Roger Goodell says no.

I think so. But they'll figure out a way to let us all know why. Roger will do that so other owners don't have to get up there. And like you said, Goodell is probably not that worried. He's like, yeah, I'll be able to handle this. Like, everyone hates this asshole. That's the reason they're here is they want to burn him at the stake. I said this the last time, and I will say it again.

Roger Goodell was sitting in that room looking at a room of people that he could take every one of their jobs if he wanted to. Hey, I could take your job if I wanted, your job, your job, your job. Oh, great question. You're lucky I don't live in Connecticut. With that being said, I could move there and run next year and wait until you hear the bullshit I say on the campaign. He is immaculate, immaculate at speaking without saying anything. That's why he's getting $60 million a year or whatever from the NFL. Well, the owners love him.

They only – like people question Raj and what Raj is doing, and they largely, it seems like, stay away from the owners unless they have something crazy out there. Was his dad a judge? Yeah, I believe so. Oh, okay. His dad was a judge, attorney type thing? Yes. and he worked for the league for 20 years or something he was crafted to be in the position that he's in to make the money he's making in he's still uh just a regular guy sitting

in his uh lazy boy recliner eating peanut M&Ms watching NFL football that's exactly right not college football no never not high school football nope not European football definitely not NFL football is the only thing that comes on this television right fucking here. I sit here normally. They had changed it for the lights. I eat my peanut M&M's. I watch NFL football right here. You think he's eating those peanut M&M's still?

That guy fucking did a shoulder bump with a 360-pound 21-year-old and still landed. He's like 60-some years old. He's in great shape as well. Oh, yeah. He still pumps the iron, I still think, though. He might be on some of that 60 million-year science. Roger's dad was a senator. How old is he? Roger's dad was a senator.

You hear that? He's been in this game. He knows the game. He's going in there like, oh, I was born for the... I was born in the dark. You guys know Steve Kerr's dad was assassinated back when he was in college? Yes. Assassinated? He was like a diplomat over where? I can't remember where it was, but yeah, he was in college? Yes. Assassinated? So he held a position. He was like a diplomat over where? I can't remember where it was,

but yeah, he was assassinated overseas, like at the American consulate or something like that. Holy fuck, I did not know that. He was a professor or something, wasn't he? Yeah, I think so. So if you're a professor, are you assassinated or murdered? Well, he was like a diplomat for the US over somewhere.

I don't know what he was doing. I don't know how it works, but they said assassinated. Side gig as a professor? i believe so who knows it was in lebanon yeah yeah steve went to college with arizona is that right yeah american university at the american university of beirut is where steve kerr's father was assassinated he was working as a diplomat professor he was a president of the american university of beirut is where Steve Kerr's father was assassinated. He was working as a diplomat slash professor. He was the president of the American University of Beirut. So you can be assassinated I guess as president of a university without doing any political affiliation. How does that work?

That's interesting. I just didn't know how to classify murders. No. Damn. I'm happy I'm not in that game. Yeah. That shit's super serious. The murder game? Well, the game that would revolve around murder or have some sort of game. Yeah. That shit's super serious. The murder game? Well, the game that would revolve around murder or have some sort of murder in it. Oh, possibly being murdered at any time.

Yeah, just like, and I think a lot of people that get into that business know like, meh, why don't I get murdered here? I ruffled some feathers. I'm not tough enough, mentally tough enough for that. I am not mentally tough enough for that every single night. I wouldn't be able to sleep. Now I got to play block trail

and focus on my sleep every night. That's right. I'm three days into this thing since tom segura body guru told me about to sleep i'm feeling better feeling better what are you doing different i'm just like at 8 30 9 o'clock i'm like tonight 11 p.m i'm going to bed i'm going to bed at 11 p.m like i'm consciously reminding myself like hey going to bed at 11 p.m waking up this morning was a little bit early okay because we didn't let any animals in a room last night shut the door ahead of and uh that'll help our cats playing bongos on the door this morning she was on her single hind leg with both the front

ones playing bats on the on the 5 15 a.m this okay nice and then a big get a little dog door get a little dog and a cat door. They can go in and out. No, like that was the purpose to keep them out because what they do is, Out of your room of the outside, they can let themselves out. Do they have to go outside or what?

I don't know. I want Scootsie out there. We got fucking these hawks flying. Oh, they're cats. You don't put the cats outside, do you? Yeah. The cats just wanted to be fed. Gotcha.

And they were waking Sam up mostly because she's the one, but I happen to be sleeping right next to Sam, so I heard the sam up mostly because she's the one but i happen to be sleeping right next to sam so i heard the same noise they got automatic feeders uh no they um they have them on amazon there's there's a million of them four cats we'd have to get four feeders because they can't be eating on the same that's a lot yeah yeah there's a full thing anytime Sam goes somewhere and I gotta do it it is a problem it is a real

alright okay geez Louise and then if I put a little bit more in another one then obviously Teddy and Nova the two orders are gonna come you know kind of just swat somebody out of their bowl and then it goes to another it's a whole thing you gotta I gotta balance personalities while trying to make sure they stay alive kind of just swat somebody out of their bowl and then it goes to another. It's a whole thing.

I've got to balance personalities while trying to make sure they stay alive whenever I'm fucking on guard. That's all I'm trying to do the entire time. Cats are scary. They're awesome. I disagree. They're cool. They just scare the hell out of me. Wet food or dry food? A little bit of both. They go insane for wet food.

So Sebastian... Wet food is disgusting. I hate it so sebastian that wet food is disgusting that nip i hate it so much any wet food is horrible what is that what smelling it just it always smells terrible that it looks terrible you never get rid of it yeah i mean you get rid of it by just giving it to the dog right yeah and there's always just slop yeah the hard food is much better. So Valerie now is become a hilariously picky eater. So, I mean, she knows too.

She would just have, you know, starvation holdouts basically on the food. Like if we don't give her what she is thinking, she just won't eat. And then we got to be like, all right, fuck.

And she knows we got it. Sebastian, same way. Sebastian did a little starving because we didn't let him sleep in the house this morning. He wouldn't eat his food. He's like, well, I'll fucking die then. It's fucking unbelievable. These animals.

So you give them what? Fruit loops or what? What is it? No, can't do that. Tuna? Chicken? Yeah. Normally it's the wet food.

They like the wet food. They probably want to get some little, go buy the little, what are the little mice you can buy that they feed snakes to? Give them some of those to keep them happy. So actually, the little bands, like, you know, the wrist bands, the Livestrong bands, kind of, what would Jesus do? Right. What would those bands? A couple of our cats love those. It makes them feel like they're hunting something.

They'll, like, pick it up and throw it, and then they'll go catch it and shit like that. Those things, and then they rip it in half and then he's leaving around. Then Chuck, the dumb corgi will come eat it. Then he's got to poop it out. It's a whole, literally, it's a whole thing. The house is an ecosystem. Well, the laser works for all of them.

So therefore it works for none of them. Right now, because if you're doing laser with one of them and somebody else even hints that there's a laser. Now you literally have four cats two dogs chasing one laser pointer you can get another one out but then all of a sudden you got four cats two dogs on two laser pointers they're not gonna stay focused in the one it's a full fucking scene i get very i get high anxiety whenever sam's not around i gotta do the whole thing i'm like all right just a lot of work. Can your cats swim? Our cats are indoor cats,

but they're not declawed. They are still clawed. So if they get out, they'll be able to survive, I think. But they're indoor cats. But do any cats swim? I don't know. There is a breed I saw on Instagram the other day that does swim. I can't remember what the name of it is. So that's the thing. We don't allow memes in research studies. So that's kind of what you just did right there.

But it could be accurate. Get one of those serval cats, those big looking ones. Oh, yeah. Sam's trying to get one of those jungle cats in our house. Oh, a bangle cat? Like your face off. Yeah, I've been very against it, yeah. They're awesome, though.

They're like three feet. Kill the rest of your cats, probably. Yeah. They're sick. I don't know. I think you're... Maybe. I don't know.

I haven't had a cat that just will kill yet. No, it wouldn't kill the other cats. They're the same tree, but that thing will jump around the house. Yeah, you don't want that. Same tree? There's the animals that have their babies and eat them right away. What do you mean same tree? Who does that?

Who's doing that? There's animals that do that. How about those bears on golf courses? They're starting to get a little... Oh, yeah. Bears are starting to get a little bit antsy on these golf courses going at golfers. Comfortable. I think I saw a hockey player, NHL player,

or Notre Dame hockey, maybe, player. Tee off, lefty. Boom. Somebody's filming it. And then Bear turns from where it looks like Baby Cub. Yeah.

He's there. Starts sprinting at the tee box and obviously the camera... Oh, shit! Everybody puts the camera down. I don't know how that ended. I honestly don't know how that ended. Still to this moment. I watched it yesterday. Then I saw a guy trying to putt from the fringe at another course. I don't know where it was at.

I saw that one. Trying to putt from the fringe and the bear starts off in the rough. Starts out in the rough, coming out of the rough, up over the fairway. He's on the fringe. Eye to eye with that thing. Couple practice strokes of the rough, up over the fairway. He's on the fringe, eye-to-eye with that thing. A couple practice strokes, looking back, that bear's much closer. Then the bear just kind of changes its path towards guy putting,

and he's just like, well, I'm out of here. He starts running away, and that's another camera. Oh, no, we are out of here. It feels like the bears may be coming out of COVID, excited to see humans out in the wild again. Because these golf courses used to be their thing during COVID. This space was their space. Nobody was out in public. Now, it feels like the Bears are getting a little bit more comfortable.

Just something to think about, especially out in Tahoe. They got Bears out there? Oh, yeah. Where, like, the houses are, you got to lock your trash up. So what a – let's see. Was it periods, right? You know what – Yeah.

Yeah. The menstrual cycle Attracts bears That's right Anchorman yeah Thank you Zito What a day by you Zito By the way Hell yeah

Earl Acker was in here He signed your jersey He did It's very cool of him Did you put in a sleeve I'm probably going to put in a big sleeve You should All right let's get out of here

Lordo starts tonight Nick Hell yeah Can't wait As we Sail off of this show And Let's ride Let's ride in the hammer down

and then that's hockey talk tonight. When people hear that the Stanley Cup is on the line this evening, a best of seven series starts in Denver, Colorado tonight. What should they keep in mind while watching the best hockey on the planet with the best teams on the planet starts tonight? I can't wait for it. What should people be thinking about, Nick? Pat, something people need to think about is there are two groups of men

going out there tonight to put their blood, sweat, and tears and spill that all over the ice for a chance, a moment, to hoist that beautiful piece of silverware right there and sip ice cold beers out of that thing. right there and sip ice cold beers out of that thing. There's a team that is looking to build and finish a dynasty here. Wow. And there's another team, the Colorado Avalanche, looking to start a legacy.

They're looking to make their own path. Wow. They've got the old men, the grizzled, the battered, hardened vets in their way Friend of the show Big rig Patty Maroon Patty Maroon Thank you Paul

Who do the left? Fucking love Patty There's a beam in my way That won't happen at the next On the other side Studio You have the young studs Nathan McKinnon

Kale McCarr Oh Kale The next one so to speak Can they get it done? Can they teach these old men a lesson wow we shall see i died avalanche go bolts go vote that starts tonight how do you feel about leaps driver yeah it sounded like it didn't it didn't look like though we could see like

couldn't see the entirety of the face that was speaking there but the portion i saw i didn't see lee shrine no but he's not behind a pole? No, he's not. Could be. That guy was reading some propaganda on the Hard Knocks in the season. Yeah. I was not happy with some of the lines that he was saying. Why would you give the ball to the running back against good defense when Carson Wentz got a hot hand? All right.

Because it's fucking Jonathan Taylor, dude. Sounds like Frank might have been writing those scripts. Yeah, these writers setting great actors up for fucking failure. Hey, how about those Penn State kids? They're showing the behind-the-scenes clips. It's starting to become

a thing now. I did see, I saw the headline. I did not click on the Twitter video. Fuck. I'm not doing it. Oh,

Austin, the NFL social media team back on Googers. Here we go. Oh, nice. Thank you, NFL social media.

That's true. It's been a good battle. Good scrap. Yeah. Yeah. Scrap. Hope we get some tonight. I'm sure you put it past you. I had a good battle. Good scrap. Hopefully get some tonight. I'm sure he put it past you.

I won't remember it the next time it happens. The next time I comment on something they did. Magic. Just a glitch. We've also seen other examples of them burying people. They tried to bury Lamar Jackson. Space needle thing. What team did that? With the Max Crosby thing. Oh, yeah. I think you could catch Max Crosby. With the Max Crosby thing. Oh, yeah.

I think you could catch Max... I think Max Crosby could not run you. And then I saw RG3 say, angles are a real thing here. What are we even talking about? He's not faster than Lamar Jackson, but Max Crosby was moving it. No, he's not. But that was... Max Crosby was very fast in that video. He's a good player, yeah. He's a great player.

Hey, no edge, no chance. Crosby knew that. Had to get back to the a good player, yeah. He's a great player. Hey, no edge, no chance. Crosby knew that. Had to get back to the edge there. That's right. Run flat. Ain't that right, AJ? Run flat until you catch him. Yeah, he put his foot in the ground and bam, ran right to the sideline.

Couldn't catch Dan Jones. He knows Lamar's there. You know what? Soccer helped me a lot in my angle tackling. With angles, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it would. Yeah, it really did, yeah.

I used to be a pretty good slide tackler. And I was big, so when I was coming in sliding on the ground, people were not happy. I bet. It was not a other team's favorite move of mine. Upending a couple guys. Spikes up. And I'm coming in full speed, too.

No, I'm not going to spikes up. I'm trying to get the ball. But if I'm not going to get the ball, you're not going to just run away. Like, I've got to stop the play here. So I guess we've got to fucking. Sorry about it. Yellow card just run away like I got to stop the play here so I guess we got to fucking sorry about it yellow card alright I'll take it whatever you want from me

I used to love that but that helped immensely you know because with soccer everybody who's dribbling fast is kicking the ball to where they're trying to go so there's a lot everybody's trying to guess on how to get there and it ended up paying off huge whenever I got in the NFL because everybody's much faster than me.

I just need to pick a spot. Where do I think? He's moving about 22 miles an hour. That's much faster than me. I better get on my phone. Use the sideline. Sideline is never miss the tackle. Ever.

Bingo. I used to act like I was hurt too, you know? Mm-hmm. Yeah, smart. Look at the unathletic white there. I'm just going to run right by him. Yeah, you are. Yeah, you are. Bang! See ya! Gotcha. You, smart. Look at the unathletic white there. I'm just going to run right by him. Yeah, you are. Yeah, you are.

Bang! See ya! Gotcha. You're not. It was a great move. Made me look much more athletic than I actually was, and I'm very thankful for it. Shout out to the sideline, dude.

Shout out. Let's get the fuck out of here. Nick, thank you for that voiceover about the Lordo. No, no, thank you. Hope you guys watch tonight. Hope you enjoy it. Can't wait. What time does the game start?

8 p.m. Much better than the tonight. Hope you enjoy it. Can't wait. What time does the game start? 8 p.m. Much better than the NBA. I'll be able to get to bed by 11. Are Biz and Wayno still doing that show, or is that done? It's on ESPN. The entire finals are on? Damn, ESPN got both. Turner will get it next year.

They should just have them in studio. Couldn't they do a halftime and pregame and postgame show still? They could, I guess. On TNT? What would they air? They would just say, hey, we're the puppy bowl, like the Super Bowl. Come watch us in between intermission. Yes, before, yeah.

But is that part of the deal? I'm sure they can't. With NBA, NBA TV can do the pregame show. I did reach out to Charles Barkley, by the way, Sir Charles, to come on our show to talk about basketball. Got one response. Nothing afterwards. Okay.

Chuck. Almost. Are you ready for Tahoe, pal? We'll see. Why? I'm excited. I'm very excited for it, erlacher i like super everybody that goes there super pumped not to quote uber but everybody that goes out there super pumped about

it i can't wait to experience this for the that's the thing it's because the p and i know i'm sure it gets old people hearing people talk about it but if you're a douche you don't get invited back that's why it's awesome. Everyone there is very cool. It also sounds like the people. All right, we got one time for this boy. Yeah, let's go. It sounds like the people who are very good at golf are the ones who are most excited to go. AJ loves any sticks. I'm excited.

I'm super excited. Super pumped, dude. You get the spear guy, some random fan. Yeah, that's right. Get a chance to live out that glory day. When AJ Hawk used to strap it up for the Packers. Glory day. Can we get shoulder pads for you and a helmet for you? Oh, we should. No way. I. Hawk used to strap it up for the Packers. Can we get shoulder pads for you and a helmet for you?

Oh, we should. No way. I do not want to take it. I do not want any helmet to helmet. That guy won't be wearing a helmet. Oh, so he doesn't get one. No. I mean, if we presented that to him, I'm sure he would accept,

but I don't know if that's a fair fight. It's the same guy? He's jacked, yes. I'm sure he'll be there. Liver King? Oh, actually, someone sent me a picture. Yeah, something. They reached out to me, and different people do,

and they said, yeah, Thursday, they're always there. So is Liver King the guy? No, it's not Liver King. This guy was before Liver King. We walk bare feet like the primals. Has that guy been played out yet? No. Liver King out.

No, I just went back into a full um rabbit hole i think that'll be like a once every three months thing i'll go dive in and just watch all his for the last three months go on there he is jacked and you know his testosterone gets built up because he eats livers that's right that's why he has escape building that's i think old buddy uh elias or ezekiel, they are built like the Lever King a little bit. Oh, yeah. Gumpy's about to be. What do you mean Elias or Ezekiel? It's Ezekiel.

We'll see if Gumpy will – yeah, that family you mean. We'll see if Gumpy's able to maintain that workout schedule whenever he's a married man. You're right. Your old ball and chain might hold him back. Right. Good point. Honeymoon too. I can't believe that is actually potentially going to happen. I mean, I think there's upwards of a 60% chance it does happen.

I think so, too. I was just, like, I was starting to see stars there. I was passing out with how big. Could you imagine this being a part of our story? Yeah. Unbelievable. The ball is in Gumpy's court. I mean, I'm showing it here.

All right, let's get out of here. Hammer down is next. Can't wait to hear what you guys are gambling on. I can't wait to hear the update from Gump. Yeah, seriously. Exciting. Can't wait to hear it. What are you guys betting on tonight?

We will do. Oh, whoa, shit. there's 50 000 oh yeah there's a uh there's a 50 000 free bet winner gonna be given out today i think we announced the winners last week we weren't able to announce the names we were able to announce the odds and the top 10 of it all and everything like that so last week on the wed Wednesday where the $5 same-game parlay or same-game parlay plus big bomb bonanza where the longest odds that hit would win $50,000 in free bets, and then there was another $50,000 in free bets given out to the rest of the top 10. 10th place was plus $16,155.

First place was plus $165,000. It was a 12-legger. So they ended up winning, I think, like $30,000 or something like that to begin with. And then they ended up also getting $50,000 on top of that. $5, a same-game parlay or a same-game parlay plus, which means at least two bets on one game, and then other games can be betted on. That's a same-game parlay plus.

Whoever has the longest odd parlay that wins, out of everybody that opts in to do this, wins $50,000 in free bets. I mean, I've already got two, three bets in for this entire thing. Plus $165,000 won it. Plus $16,000 came in 10th. They still won some free bets from FanDuel. I guess there was over 68,000 people.

Wow. Yeah, $50,000 in free bets. Might as well. Let's go. Might as well go for it. Imagine opening that thing up and just seeing not only what you won from the long odds, but also another $50,000 in there for you to bet in. What a dream.

Make sure you opt in. Have to opt in. Put all that 50K on one thing. Absolutely. That would not be a long, odd, same-game parlay. Oh, you're saying after you win. After you win, yeah. Take that 50K.

I'm going to be kind of ballsy here. By the way, then you can cash it out. Yeah. Yeah, of course. Because it's free bets, so you. By the way, then you could cash it out. Yeah. Yeah, of course. Because it's free bets. So you can bet $50,000 after you win it. Then you can take the winnings and cash that out. You will not be able to cash out the free bets, $50,000.

Right. So if you were to put $50,000 on a super heavy favorite and win off of that, you would be able to cash that out, which, you know, it takes a little bit. But also, remember, the IRS is probably looking at your ass. Oh, yeah. Think about that as well. Watch out. How does that work?

They come back later? The IRS? Yeah. Always. It comes like online gambling. Yeah. Always. And it's digitally tracked now.

Right. You know? Yeah, I don't know if they do it real time somehow, if somehow FanDuel takes, I don't know. No, I don't think FanDuel is doing taxes for people. No, it's on you. I'm sure they have plenty of, yeah, I don't know if they do it real time somehow, if somehow FanDuel takes – I don't know. No, I don't think FanDuel is doing taxes for people. No, it's on you. I'm sure they have plenty of – yeah, I don't know. That is a – yeah, it's easy to –

obviously easy to keep track of your wins and losses, though. Yes, very easy on there. And also, it's really nice of them, you know, not to tax you on your losses, though. Yeah, of course. It's very nice of them. I get to gamble. Yeah.

I get to win. That's right. them I get to gamble yeah get to win that's right sure and I get to pay you because I happen to do it in a state that was belong to this country yeah what are you gonna do that's gonna buy their fair share into it's already Jay that's right we're all about it yes we are we're back where's goop gonna live though when he's married I think he's gonna live in her place for a while. Where does she live? She's got a pretty nice apartment in New York, I think. Oh, she's New York based.

Yes. Here we go. I would have won L.A. ten times out of ten there. Just because she probably goes to the headquarters. Oh, yeah. Serious. Yeah. Okay.

So, Gumpy, I mean. Congrats, Goop. New York City. The big city, pal. Big Apple. Let's go. See, you never sleep sleep Especially when you're married Okay

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Yeah, fun time today. Looking forward to watching the... Wow, man. Somebody in your kitchen? Yeah. Making bacon? Cooking bacon. In his underwear?

With your mom? Yeah. I have no idea. All right. Well, thank you, AJ. You're the best. See you all tomorrow. Hammer...

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