The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 688 - McAfee Movie Review Monday, Shams Charania, Darius Butler, Josina Anderson, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: June 20, 2022

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about the US Open Championship this weekend, another McAfee Movie Review Monday, and everything going on in the sports world as we begin to officially enter the summer. Joining the program to chat about the news that Kyrie Irving and the Brooklyn Nets are at an impasse in negotiations and he could wind up somewhere else is NBA Insider for Stadium and The Athletic, Shams Charania (18:54-28:01). Next, 9 year NFL veteran, host of The Man-To-Man podcast, Darius Butler joins the show to chat about who players fear playing against more, Tom Brady or Peyton Manning, his experience with Rookie dinners while in the league after Jets 1st round pick Garrett Wilson's comments on The Pivot, and more (1:05:51-1:20:56). Later, NFL Insider for CBS Sports and first time guest, Josina Anderson joins the progrum to chat about the Deshaun Watson situation, what she's hearing about Baker Mayfield, how she initially got into this role, when she thinks the Lamar Jackson and Kyler Murray deals will get done, and much more (1:29:58-1:53:56). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show, and listen on Sirius XM Channel 82, Mad Dog Radio. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people. It is Monday, June 20th, 2022, and I hope your weekend was fantastic. This show starts now. Yeah, that thing ended last week. We were not carried into another one, but there is some things that we need to let's ride into. We have big guests today. Shyam Sharia will be joining us in about 17 minutes he broke the news that the kyler or kyrie irving uh and brooklyn nets conversations are at impasse i-m-p-a-s-s-e which we all had to google what that meant i guess they are at a complete standstill because one side won't agree with the other side on something

so is kyrie going to be going into the open market and what does that mean who knows we'll I guess they are at a complete standstill because one side won't agree with the other side on something. So is Kyrie going to be going into the open market, and what does that mean? Who knows? We'll ask Sean Sharani in about 16 minutes. Darius Butler will join us in a second hour to talk about a lot of things, but most importantly, Bart Scott's comments about Peyton Manning being much more scary to defend than Tom Brady. I watched this morning on GetUp. They had Dominique Foxworth on there to answer the question.

Dominique said, well, Peyton changes the plays, you know what I mean? Tim Hasselbeck, former NFL guy quarterback, he gives his entire answer on why probably what Bart Scott just said makes a lot of sense. And then Jeremy Fowler said, you know, that people he talked to. It was an interesting thing, but it has spurred quite a conversation because everybody knows that Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, obviously for this era are the two goats. Tom Brady has all the rings.

Peyton was able to catch up by going to Denver and win another one. Has all the stats and the way he plays vastly different than how Tom Brady plays. So that conversation is always going to do well. Just like Jordan and Braun. So we will certainly ask Darius Butler. And the question being phrased, who's more scary to defend? How will Darius Butler respond? Who knows? phrased, who's more scary to defend? How will Darius Butler respond?

Who knows? A.J. Hawkwall should be with us. And then in the third hour, first time ever on this show. Okay. First time guest. First time ever. Josina Anderson. Here we go.

Finally of ESPN. Now at CBS. Obviously an insider to all the sources. Cannot wait to chat with her and see what's going on in the world. Today's like the first day of actual summer for the entire NFL. Where are we headed? Hopefully, Josina will give us an update. Also, we'll have incredible conversations with the Talks at the Table at Ty Schmidt.

How was the weekend? It was great. Weather was very nice, which, you know, I mean, that was nice. No rain, anything like that. We had great golf. So although the NFL is going away, the golf kind of kept me going going through father's day it was a great weekend nothing to complain about last father's day for you yes wow yeah yeah so yeah it's kind of you know did you think about that yeah definitely i thought there was a chance she was going to come on father's day and it'd be kind of like uh you know i'd be able to actually celebrate. But, yeah, it was. Wow, what a wild.

You wake up Father's Day. Hey, just got Murph, dog dad. Hey, happy Father's Day to everybody else. You go to sleep Father's Day. Hey, everybody needs to start. Happy Father's Day to me. Excuse me. That's right.

Excuse me. I sent a lot out. A lot needs to come back. That's right. That would have been a great tale. But also, I'm happy that, you know, she'll get her own celebration. Yeah, that's right. At Boston Corner, I saw you boating some chemistry with Baggo

just a couple weeks out from Tahoe. How was your weekend, pal? Did you hit the swing of sticks at all? I didn't swing the sticks this weekend. A lot of boozing. Yeah, just boozing, kind of working on the walking, to be honest with you. Really trying to get ready for Tahoe. But, yeah, I took Baggo out on the town on Saturday. We had a great day together.

But no, it was a fantastic weekend. Saw your full conversations with Bagel expecting a response. Bagel, you have to say anything back. Bagel, by the way, is the bag that we'll be using in Tahoe for the golf tourney, the American Central Championship. Connor will be the caddy. He's trying to learn as much about this bag as possible.

Yeah, and you know, Bagel doesn't respond verbally, but we communicate in different ways. He's a big body language guy. That's kind of more how he talks to me, but not everybody can get that because we have chemistry. I had no idea that that bag gender identified as a he. Had to find that out. I had no clue what was going to go on.

I do appreciate how serious you were taking this caddy role for Tahoe, though. Yeah, let's go. After seeing the golf this weekend, like Ty mentioned, too, it's a big role. I'm hoping to be kissing that flag on Sunday. Yeah, hopefully you're not living the same life as Billy Foster, a man who's been waiting 40 years. Nice. Hoist that one.

What an incredible caddy existence he has had. What a weekend it was for not only him, but Matt Fitzpatrick. The Brit was hit. Beautiful ball. That was gorgeous. We'll dive all the way into that. Atone Diggs, I know you weren't in Indianapolis this weekend. How was it, pal?

Went back to Pittsburgh for a wedding. Did breakfast with Coach this weekend. Celebrate Father's Day. It was pretty good. It was a pretty good weekend. Jesus. I didn't notice, though. Right?

What? I think, like, in the NBA, people would be like, test that guy. You got a frog in your throat. Yeah, they'd be like, test that guy. You got a frog in your throat. Yeah, test that guy for COVID. That's what other teams would be saying. Listen, nobody's testing anymore, but are you okay? Is everything all right? Yeah.

First seconds of the day out the gates, thought you almost died on your own words. Well, I've been out of what's it called? Allergy medicine for like the last week. I normally take one every night so that it doesn't drain down my throat every single night. But that has not been the case as of recently. So I've been dealing with a lot of congestion. Well, you did have a little drip voice there at the beginning of this whole thing.

But how was the weekend? It was good. It was great. And I did notice that this table, toxic table, scumbags that they are, didn't ask you how you're. Oh, geez. Tony, you're special thank you for asking this guy is yeah what a guy how was your week that is awesome that was amazing should have expected such a thing should have literally

before we went live i said hey don't ask me how i'm doing let's just move the conversation to the very end ask me how i'm doing ton digs uses it to his advantage yeah that is amazing genius uh weekend was great thank you for asking tone yeah you guys uh weekend was great the weather was perfect it was yeah wasn't too hot wasn too cold. After that humidity that came through and kind of bum-fucked all of us last week, I mean, it was like 105, 110 shoot temp, let alone with the humidity on top of it. So I thought the weekend was going to be a full nightmare, but it was magical. Got a chance to see Tim McAfee and his domain on a boat. Nice.

You know what I mean? He was cruising the lake out there. Him, his peacock that we got him a captain's hat for father's day obviously so he'll probably wear that down here with his dress blues uh today but he just him on that boat he's much more comfortable than he was a couple like weeks ago whenever he just got into the boating game had some good food had some good stuff like that uh it was a fantastic weekend. Actually, got a chance to watch a movie, which leads us to the second ever segment of McPhee Movie Review Monday.

Here we go. So, I know we're a sports show, and we'll definitely dive into that, especially in about 10 minutes with Sean Schirania, who broke the news about Kyrie Irving probably not being with the Brooklyn Nets next year. And there's other NFL stuff, I guess, that happened. But we'll talk mostly with Josina in a couple hours with that because she has all the insider and AJ.

But the movie that was chosen this past weekend for the reviews here was Casino and Armageddon. Yes. Didn't get to Armageddon. Okay, sure, fair. Sorry about it. Did not get to it. Casino, though, titanic length film.

Very long. Diesel. I mean, that is a long film. There was a couple different times whenever I had to pause it because I had to go piss. My wife and I said, how much time is left? An hour and a half is left. Oh, yeah.

Holy shit, this is a long one. Then we thought we did a little bit of a battle. Boom, you've got 50 minutes still left in this whole thing. And there was numerous times where I thought I could bail out and probably get it. I get it, I get it. But it kept my attention for three hours. Oh, yeah.

I mean, it was a pretty good movie. And everything that I would like in it, casinos, obviously, mafia, brutal murders. Yes. Just brutal. Baseball bats to faces and stuff. Very brutal. I mean, they were going at it.

At one point, Nicky actually shot, I think, a woman in the head, his nipple in the head, and his arm in the head. Yeah. If it was an actual gun, right, boom, boom, got to die. Sorry about it. Did the whole thing. Overall, liked the movie.

Okay. Liked the movie. There was a moment where he was sitting like this where he had both of his pinkies up, by the way. Yeah, sure. And one of them had a ring on. I appreciated that. I really did appreciate that.

His wardrobe. His costumes were epic. Well, Rothstein's costumes were epic nicky was a little bit of a loose cannon a little bit i think we all knew where that was headed as soon as nicky moved out to the uh desert yeah i think we all especially in the beginning where he was talking about uh you know you got to dig before you kill the person right because if not you're gonna spend 30 45 minutes out there digging before you even get there and who knows who's gonna show up so i think we kind of got it.

We kind of got the points. Obviously, the beginning, you see the thing blow up. That was a little bit. I thought he was dead. Yeah. I thought that was how he died. Turns out it was not how he died. No, no.

But the whole ginger thing kind of made me think, oh, this guy's a stitch. Like, you know, wedding day, that phone call with Lester, the guy. Like, fucking need to end it now. Guy's a bum. What are we doing right now? Then there was numerous other times where I'm like, what is Ace doing? This guy runs an entire $100 million casino. He's fucking out there doing this whole thing.

Obviously doesn't have a license. No spoilers. That's going to come back and bite him in the ass. I never would have guessed, by the way, that if you had success, that type of little thing would really fuck you over, especially if you're firing one of the local's kids. Can't have that. You've got to play ball with some people.

It's just the way it has to go. All in all, good movie. A lot of it though, I was just like, can't have it, dude. Come on. Fucking come on. Them telling me it's based on a true story, though, it felt good. Nicky kind of fucking ginger on the side there in the middle

of a trailer. Interesting, fascinating situation. Overall, good movie. Not a perfect movie. Not better than Goodfellas. No, definitely not.

So I had a lot of people text me that are tweeting me that they thought it was better than Goodfellas. I did not think that was the case, but I enjoy Casino a lot.

But it has, and it has, it is one movie on the list of, for your point, oh, 9%, 0.9% that you have to watch. Oh, 1%. Yeah, good math there. We're figuring it out.

I was actually getting more Italian while you were talking. Exactly. Yeah, that's just kind of a part of the whole, hey, Italians, we're mafia people. We do mafia stuff all over the place. Learned a lot about Kansasansas city detroit and other cities i did not know kansas city had such a you know italian contingency monsters that was the closest they could get to vegas without getting arrested or whatever and then i enjoyed him talking about how back at home i'm getting crucified for doing this here i'm getting awards giving speeches

that's kind of how i think a lot of potheads have felt whenever they're smoking in a in a state where it's not legal and it's like they're scared to death to drive everywhere or go anywhere if they have anything on them. And then get in these states where it's legal and you got a little Tesla pulling up to you with a bag that's like leather. Like, here's your weed, sir. It's a crazy part of time there. So I could relate to that. Was that critically acclaimed? Is that like a movie people think is very, very good?

Scorsese on the flip. Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, it is critically acclaimed? Is that like a movie people think is very, very good? Scorsese's on the flip. Yeah, exactly. So yeah, it is critically acclaimed. But it wasn't, I mean, to your point, it didn't really do as good as, because this was like three years after Goodfellas came out, maybe five years. So they kind of just ran it back, a lot of the same characters.

It wasn't as critically acclaimed, but I think in the long run, it's a cult classic for sure. Was it 95? 95, yeah. So as soon as we synced it was from 1995, I automatically assumed I'm not going to make it through this. This one's going to put me to bed. I'm lucky I didn't even look at the time at the beginning of the movie.

Oh, 257. I'm going to start doing that, I think, and that's probably going to scare me away from a lot of movies. I feel like some of these movie reviews on these Mondays before football starts are going to have a lot of them be like, I didn't make it through the movie. I couldn't make it through the movie. I was impressed that you did. Three hours. A long time. See, I think that's a testament to the movie.

Because if it stinks, like completely stinks, there's no way you're throwing away two hours and 57 minutes. What's this guy letting Ginger fucking come on in? Could have had anybody. Could have done anything he wanted. 43 years old, he said I want to go ahead and do this. No, you already waited 40-some years, dude. I mean, keep on in. Bad news. Could have had anybody. Yeah. Could have done anything he wanted. 43 years old,

he said, I want to go ahead and do this. Now you already waited 40 some years, dude. I mean, keep on waiting. I guess the heart wants what it can't have. Fucking Lester though. I know.

That guy stinks. He does. That guy, he was a pedophile too, I believe. She was dating him since she was 14. Yeah, when she was young.

Really blowing in front of her kid. I mean, what are we doing here? Get Amy out of there. Ginger. What is Ace doing? So his kid. I mean, what are we doing here? Get Amy out of there. Ginger. What is Ace doing? So it was hard. I think that's one of the things where it was just like in that super-duper Sandy Gems thing.

Sure, Uncut Gems. Uncut Gems, yeah, that thing. I had no feeling for the fucking guy because numerous times he could have cashed out and caught up. This is kind of the same thing with me watching old Ace. Numerous times he could have fuckinged out and caught up. This is kind of the same thing with me watching old Ace. Numerous times he could have fucking gone out and saved himself from everything. So it's hard for me to really fall in love and be like, oh, yeah, man, this stinks. This is happening for you.

On a complete opposite, I'm watching like, you fucking deserve it, Bob. You know what I mean? So it's kind of a difficult feeling for me. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to have that. But if I were to care about him, which I don't know if anybody does, which is tough, by the way. The only people that liked him was the people he was just giving money to. And the people that were skimming the skim.

That was quite a little operation. How nice would that suitcase just showing up every single week have to be, though? Some of that stuff, though, about how things used to go in Vegas, like when they find the guy guys counting cards and they go back and he breaks his hand with the hammer and stuff like that that 1,000% was happening back then. It is cool to see that. Which hand do you shuffle with?

And the guy said, my right hand. You can't shuffle with your left hand, only my right hand. He thought he was giving information away like, hey, if I'm ever in here, this is what I'm doing, and I'll cheat here. Instead, it was immediate. Hi-ya! How about the nerd that was actually doing the betting? Getting called back there. You want to

take the hammer and the money, or do you just want to walk out of here no hammer? No hammer would be great. Guy had a couple hundred thousand dollars. I wonder what that other guy learned about that guy. Hey, you just let me get my hand busted for literally zero dollars, because you wouldn me get my hand busted for literally zero dollars because you wouldn't get your hand busted.

I assume there was a little bit of a fallout between those two after they left. I think it's safe to assume. Safe to assume. Enjoy Bob's performance? De Niro? Yeah, I think so. He's awesome. He is.

He's the ace, right? Yeah, right. Pesci, too. Pesci, hysterical. So funny. He's this tall, right? Yeah. And he is the enforcer in every Italian movie.

Pretty much. Is that? Until, you know, he don't shine shoes no more. Yeah. Well, he ended up in a ditch in this one, too. He did, yeah. Alive. They buried him alive.

Yeah. Him and his brother. Same grave. Cool. By the way, good acting on the first guy. Good sell into the fucking, into the hole. Yeah. It was a great sell.

It was a little bit of a rim job around the hole he fell in there. And then all of a sudden he was flat. They were both alive while they buried him. Overall, give it a nice, I don't know, seven out of ten. There you go. Pesci going from that to home alone.

I didn't know he had that range. So range, he's just another fucking bad guy. Yeah, but still. A lot of cuts. Yeah, rumor has it it was actually very difficult for him to go from that to Home Alone because he kept saying fuck and they're like, hey, Jost, PG, you can't say fuck every take.

You see that little Macaulay Culkin little fuck over there? They should release the non-edited version with the fuck. I believe they did like a three-minute clip and it was super funny funny if I remember correctly. He was quite a little swindler that guy. He had a little operation going. All the boys went down I guess. It is thinking back in time how people could get away

with whatever. There were some things that took place and you think back like how could they have done that? And then it was like oh, because there's no technology. Yeah, at all. They could do whatever the fuck they wanted. How about whenever he was in like four or five different cars, six different cars, and they lost him or whatever? Nowadays, they would just have something tracking on every...

Boom, here he is. He's literally right here. And now it's a much different world. But I enjoyed it. Mac, another movie review Monday come to a complete. Thank you all so much. We've got to figure out what to watch next weekend. Yep.

Maybe Armageddon. With the wife. Yeah, maybe. Maybe Armageddon. That's another long one. That's another long one. We might want to find an hour and a half sweet spot for you. Have you seen John Wick? Have you seen John Wick?

I think John Wick would be a good one. We're watching John Wick this week. There's numerous Johns, right? Which one's the one I'm watching? The first one. It's about 90 minutes. Keanu kills about 180 guys in it, and it is balls to the walls from the get-go. Okay, so that's John Wick 1.

Yes. Just John Wick is what it's called. And this is on Prime? It's on one of the streaming services for sure. That has become an entire thing now, too. I didn't want to subscribe to Starz. Casino's on Starz. Hulu.

I had to do the same thing. $2.99 a month. It was not on Hulu. No? No, it was not on Hulu. Oh, John Wick is on... Nope. I thought it was on Netflix.

Not in this country. HBO. John Wick? I thought John Wick was on HBO. It's definitely on... We'll figure it out. I don't know, but Starz almost got me last night with $2.99. I'm like, no, actually, not doing it.

I'm not. How about that? Because I'm only here for fucking casino. I'm not here for anything else. And they're just going to slip that $2.99 in every single month. Boom. And I said, not today. I'll pay $3.99 to rent casino right fucking now.

I was going to say, that's the move is just going on Apple and searching it. And you can just, any of these older movies, you can rent them for $2. them for 2.99 one watch boom you're done don't have to worry about recurring payments yeah it was the right move i spent four bucks to save myself one buck next month bingo smart you can rent uh john wick currently on amazon for 2.99 boom that's what i'll do okay you're gonna love it because everybody's already a prime member because you know my wife has bought something from there every day that that company has existed yeah they do well i'd say i got i got a package up every single day every day you for you both see i never go on there it seems like it's a never-ending gold mine though because there's just cardboard boxes at my house we have become a cardboard box factory over there. It is.

I walk in, I'm like, Jesus fucking Christ. I had to get a second recycling bin. Like from the city. So this is a standard thing happening everywhere. Yeah, you should donate that cardboard to downtown. The bombs would love it. They'd put the penthouse out of it probably. Maybe an umbrella to stay out of the heat.

They just stay underneath the overpasses. Yeah. If we could bind all of our cardboards from Amazon, they could probably build the Burj Khalifa. Yeah.

The Burj Khalifa. Oh, yeah. I'll tell you what, the Burj Khalifa, that particular brand of bird, it does put together quite a fucking stand. 170 stories.

The highest Burj Khalifa. That's right. Was it Burj Khalifa? Yeah. B-I-R-J? I didn't want to insult. B-U-R-J, I think. Burj Khalifa.

Burj. Taj Mahal. Wiz is the only Khalifa that I believe in. That's right. Joining us now with a beautiful fade on his hair in a lineup on his beard. I'd assume. I haven't seen him, but I would assume. Yeah.

A man that's in the news-breaking industry. He uses spoons for his scoops and forks for his oatmeal. NBA insider for the Athletic and Stadium, ladies and gentlemen, Sean Ferranio. What's up, dude? My beard lineup can be better, but, you know, I just flew into New York, so I'm trying to collect myself right now. Hey, why don't you go stop by Jalen Rose's barber? Isn just flew into New York. So I'm trying to I'm trying to collect myself right now Hey watch go stop by Jalen Rose's barber in here in New York. I've seen him walking around New York He is a top-of-the-line guy. He he's a fucking artist with that thing. I think I like my barber better. Oh

I respect that. Okay, let's dive into it. You broke some news this morning You used the word that none of us knew what it meant until we all looked it up, but it doesn't sound great. Kyrie and the Brooklyn Nets are at impasse in conversations about his future in Brooklyn, clearing the way for seven time All-Star to consider the open market. Lakers and Knicks expected to emerge among potential suitors. Okay, this is obviously top of-line conversation in every sports show because it's Kyrie. This obviously involves Kevin Durant and potentially LeBron James, who he had been complimenting on podcasts in the past. Where's Kevin? What does this mean?

Is this all a leverage play by Kyrie's people to have you leak this information, or is this legitimately happening? I thought he and KD were locked at the hip now. No, there's no leverage play this is from multiple multiple sources on the situation from every single angle that you can think of but um you know Kyrie Irving after the net season ended he was very vocal as far as his his end desire then desire being you know returning to Brooklyn planning to be in Brooklyn. And he said, I believe, a month before the season ended, that I don't plan on leaving Kevin. I don't plan on leaving Seven, I believe is what he said,

meaning Kevin Durant. And those are two guys that signed with Brooklyn together in 2019. They've been attached as far as wanting to play with each other. And to my knowledge, that has not changed. And sources tell me that that still remains the goal at the end of the day is that, you know, Kyrie Irving has wanted to stay with the Nets and his goal has been to want to be with Kevin Durant. And that goal has not changed. But as far as the conversations that have taken place so far in in the talks between um Kyrie Irving

and the Nets and Nets officials and you know he's got a player option decision next week that he has to decide on but these are more conversations about in general right when you're talking about life when you're talking is this the right team for you moving forward in the future whether that's one year two year three or four year is this the right team? And both sides have reached an impasse in those conversations. And that has led, you know, multiple sources have told me that that has led a serious opening for him to hit the open market and possibly join a team such as the Lakers, the Knicks, the Clippers, and possibly join a team such as the Lakers, the Knicks, the Clippers, and find a home.

At the end of the day, Kyrie Irving, his intent has been to find a home. And if he does not feel, and if both sides, the Nets and Kyrie Irving, do not feel in their conversations that this is home for him, he is going to be a free agent, and he will be moving on. Come on to Indiana, Kyriei impasse uh obviously the definition is a situation in which no progress is possible especially because of disagreement or a deadlock so this is like no progress is possible which would mean you use that word on purpose, which you're an incredibly intelligent guy. So you're expecting next week that Kyrie will use his player option, be a free agent.

Will Brooklyn still be in the picture in the NBA if he does that? Do they still have the opportunity to negotiate? Or is it just open bidding at that point in whatever the hell he wants to do? And is it going to be Kyrie and LeBron back together a little bit more mature? Kyrie said in that podcast, he said, if I knew what I knew now, that would have ended much differently and they would have had a never-ending supply of titles or something like that. Is that all indications and all signs pointing to that may be happening?

Because that would be an explosion of news in the NBA world, right, Shams? Yeah, I mean, I think Kyrie said it, you know, openly as far as his public comments, you know, about LeBron and the leader that he views LeBron, and I think a lot has been made about their relationship, especially the way Kyrie Irving left the Nets, I mean, not the Nets, the Cavaliers, the way that Kyrie Irving left the Cavs as far as asking out and ending up in Boston, there was a lot made about their relationship, but, you know, sources have told me that that was never a fractured relationship. That's always been a dialogue that has existed between those two. And so that is, of course, going to be a factor in all of this.

But overall, I mean, when you look at Kyrie Irving has until June 29th, so I believe that's next Wednesday, to make a decision on his $37 million player option. Now he could opt out. And the problem with opting out is that if you end up with the Lakers, the Clippers, a team like that, they would not be able to do a sign and trade because of the hard cap. So there's in the heart, you know, a hard cap is a collective bargaining salary cap situation that I'm not going to bore you guys with. But essentially the most likely path for him to end up with the Lakers or the Clippers would likely have to be an opt-in and trade. And that obviously, he would need the Nets.

They would need to work together on this opt-in and trade. The Nets would have to receive something back as well in all this. So that is the likelier route. The other route could also be opting out and signing for less money and we're talking about a guy in kairi irving that did end up um you know he he left i believe around 18 ish 20 ish million dollars on the table this year because of the vaccine mandate that i've discussed and we've discussed on this show at length over the course of the nba season so there's been a proven track record of Kai making decisions

based on what he feels is best for him, his values and his mindset, his family, his personal choices. I think the Nets were also delivered that message as far as, and they've seen it from him as far as he's going to make decisions based on family, based on inclusion. And clearly that just doesn't seem like that's there right now you know in these conversations uh final question here and i can't thank you enough for joining us i know you're incredibly busy i saw you shoo off like four calls while you're giving us that answer

um is this because are they at the impasse because of like you know he he didn't play and the the narrative outside, especially if you listen to like Stephen A and others that are very deep in the NBA world and I think very influential, this guy doesn't show up to work is what everybody, this guy chooses not to show up to work, doesn't show up to work. In his mind, he's doing something vastly different. But at the end of the day, that is how it could be viewed by some people. Is that what the Nets are saying to Kyrie Irving?

Is Kyrie feeling disrespected that that's being said to him? Is that why the impasse has taken place? Well, Sean Marks said after the Nets season ended that we want players that can be available. We want guys to be here full time. That is of the utmost concern. I mean, when you think about the optics of Kyrie, when that press conference was done, clear that there were some intended messages being thrown out there, not just to Kyrie, but the entire roster. The players we want on this team have to be available all the time. Obviously, the one guy that there was proof of, Kyrie Irving missed pretty much half the season,

more than half the season. I believe he played-29 games largely due to the inability to play at home because he did not comply with the vaccine mandate and that was a decision that he made and the Nets had at one point sent him away until he's a full-time player then brought him back because at the end of day Kyrie Irving makes your basketball team better and you have a better chance at winning basketball games with Kyrie Irving on the floor than him not on the floor. But there's no question. I mean, the fact that Sean Marks had said that in the press conference, that that has undoubtedly been part of all this.

It's like availability, how much are you going to be available, all those. Those are all concerns from when you look at any team that would want to bring in a player that has missed way more games than he's played the last three seasons. You know, that, that is definitely a conversation. And I wonder, you know, I don't know Kyrie Irving personally, but just from watching as a fan, like if he feels disrespected by somebody, I feel like there's potentially a, Hey, why don't you fuck off forever? Yeah, maybe I'm not a Herbst insurer

I can't wait to watch this unfold if him and LeBron get back together and have success it's going to be loud it's going to be awesome we can't thank you enough for joining us on this busy busy day in New York ladies and gentlemen Sean Schirani thank you he certainly had fuck you.

That's the impasse. Oh, yeah. Whenever he uses the word impasse, and then we read the definition, there's a reason. No progress is possible is the first sentence of the definition of impasse, which we didn't even know how to pronounce. No. But Shams did.

A situation in which no progress is possible. So he's out next week. This is going, hey, good for us. This is good news for us. Yeah, absolutely. Just as people that cover sports on a daily basis. But that is massive news. Where will he end up?

Who knows? Well, that's what he's talking about LA. And I think everyone wants to just assume, and it sounds awesome, like all Kyrie and LeBron back together. But what can they get outside of, I think it's very clear, Kyrie is not going to take, he's not going to sign somewhere else and just take less money. He's in his prime right now.

He just lost $30 million last year. He's not just going to go somewhere and take less money. What can the Lakers actually offer to have that be a fair trade? Maybe Westbrook, but outside of that, they don't have the pieces. Kyrie's one of the best – five, ten best players the nba like how does that make sense i like what you just did there by the way because as you said the top five player in the nba i was like oh that's gonna be somebody's gonna have a conversation with ty about it then he dropped it down to 10 and i don't think anybody can argue that right i think everybody views that he's top 10 player

in the nba when he's playing right he He's unbelievable. I do like the fact that we all just assume though that if he feels disrespected by somebody, well, you can fuck off forever. I'm out of here. That's kind of how it's been. Well, it is how it has been, but remember he spoke about the situation with LeBron where he was like, if I was a little bit more mature, I think I would have handled it differently.

Now that guy's saying that, did that piss off Kyrie and will he in there just be like, yeah, that guy had to say what he had to say, right? Obviously the whole thing. Or will Kyrie continue to do, which I love, by the way. I would never be able to turn it off either. Okay. You have no idea what I had to this team.

You actually told me I couldn't practice with you guys or play in the away games. Not me. That was you guys. And remember, there was a time where he wasn't even able to practice. games not me that was you guys and remember there was a time where he wasn't even able to practice but but the overarching arcing arching arching arching whatever the overarching fact here is if he would have just got the shot like all of his other teammates numerous of them that probably didn't want to do it he would have been able to practice and they can hold that over his head uh until literally until whenever and feel justified justified it that's that's just the fact of the matter of what

they can do now does that mean that that's why it's soiled and soured probably uh but man that would be awesome if he goes to if he and lebron are playing oh yeah god and westbrook and durant back together and brooklyn would be pretty sweet and i do wonder like do you think people in that building kind of see what Ben Simmons and why he didn't play? Almost look at Kyrie like, hey, if you just fucking play James Harden, we'll probably still be here. And we wouldn't have had to deal with this.

Oh, yeah. There's a follow up. Yeah. Like there's a we got to deal with this guy that won't play ever. Yeah. And we're paying him a lot of money. A ton. Kyrie.

What if Ben comes back next year and just the guy? Massive chance. But the East is very good. I feel like we hold on hope for people more than anybody else. We do. lot of money a ton kairi what if ben comes back next year and just good that guy massive chance but the east is very good i feel like we hold on hope for people more than anybody else i will i will say it might come back and just do it all we say that about every nfl team going into the season yeah because there is a chance that a four-win team that has joey burrow a quarterback goes from you know irrelevancy all the way into the super bowl and now building an indoor facility to catch up with the rest of the NFL. That can happen in the NFL.

But whenever we hold off hope on people, like Cam Newton, for instance, I feel like we're one of the last people that are like, hey, maybe, maybe. Everybody's like, nope, that is not the case at all. So maybe Ben Simmons comes back and learns how to shoot and play and everything like that, builds up a little bit of a callus so he plays whenever things aren't necessarily as serious. Or we learn more about the injuries that he has so we don't just automatically judge him for being a self-dash which is kind of what everybody was doing so i feel like we're on

that side but god damn i thought kd and kairi were back all year next year and i was excited to watch that yeah because they're unbelievable together like when they do play together it's obviously they got swept by the celtics but that felt like almost uh because of the fact that he didn't play all year all right let's dive into some nfl news here and this one comes from the pivot so the pivot had garrett wilson rookie quarter our wide receiver um out of ohio state absolute stud of a player went 10th overall to the jets the new y Jets, who had an incredible first round, mostly because they had more picks than everybody. So they did get better.

We'll talk to Josina, by the way, who was in the Jets camp actually this weekend. What she heard about how all this is going. Garrett Wilson was just introduced to what a rookie dinner is, and he couldn't have came from a better group of dudes at the pivot. They did tell me about the dinner. I got to take all the receivers to a dinner. That's going to be cool. I'm excited for that.

It's not going to be cool. You know they're going to run that bill up? Like $75,000? Oh, yeah. You mean like the Louis XIII that you're going to have to buy at the restaurant? Nah, they ain't doing me for $75,000. I ain't going to fake it. Nah, nah, nah. It's the rookie dinner. It's all of y'all. You're the tip pick of the draft, too. They know you got 20 guarantees. Wait, what you say rookie dinner? He thinks it's his decision. That was so cute.

It was so cute. Hey, listen, 75. That was awesome. Yeah. Absolutely awesome. Him learning about what a rookie dinner is. I can't believe this hasn't happened before in his life. I get a chance to go eat with all of the wide receivers and all their friends and everything.

So that should be cool. No. It's not going to be cool. This thing's going to be terrible for you. You just need to enjoy and embrace what's about to happen. That feels like that is a tradition that's never going to go away in any sport. The rookie dinner that happens, especially if you're number 10 overall, to their point, you're number 10,

they know exactly how much you're getting guaranteed. They're going to run that up, especially some of the older guys but who knows what's who's all in the wider series i guess barrios uh we'll have to run that thing up but there is numerous stories about things that louis the 13th is a type of whiskey i think or bourbon or whatever the fuck it is uh and it is like 500 bucks a shot let alone like the the bottle and everything like that and there are stories of people you know taking their own bottles home a little bit of the third can't open this one i'm taking this one home wine just abusing it entirely and it has to be it's a cognac it has to be an incredibly uncomfortable night going into it i had one it was with matt stover

uh justin snow and i don't believe Vinatieri was there. And they tried to buy a couple bottles of wine or whatever. Not tried. They bought a couple bottles of wine. It was only a few thousand dollars for me. I felt pumped. I was like, yep, you got it. I'm going to get out of here. But there have been stories where guys have talked to people into getting planes, flying to Vegas. What? Doing dinner there for a night and then flying back, you know? Like hundreds of thousands of dollars some people have been forcing. If you go with the, like if you're in a position group that has a lot of people, you're fucked. Yeah.

Like if a D lineman goes top five, it is a show out there. And then you get through that, that hopefully because then maybe in a couple years a rookie will have come and you can return the favor but with most hazing things uh kind of drifting away entirely from the game i've never really been around any hazing by the way just uh i don't think it was everywhere in the nfl but as hazing continues to drift away from sport these rookie dinners will not these These things will always be here. And I love that Garrett Wilson was just, that should be a fun time. They ain't going to get me for that.

It's like, yeah, they will. They would just walk out of the restaurant. You would just be stuck there. That's a federal crime. You don't clean your dishes all night. You are in a bad, bad spot. Is there a chance it's not? So I looked, Corey Davis is the elder statesman in the wide receiver room,

and he was the fifth overall pick for Tennessee, and everyone else is young there. So maybe it won't be as bad, or maybe he won't go as bad because he was in that situation as a top ten pick. Like, I know what it was like. Yeah, normally the top ten picks go the hardest on other people because what they had to do is a little bit of a get back there. But it might be – we might be coming into an age where people stop just,

you know, ruining people's bank accounts before the season even starts. Maybe we are, though. Go ahead, Zito. I just looked up. There's a restaurant in New York that's $40,000 per bottle, $800 for that St. Louis. Oh, so Louis XIII. Yeah. How much did you say?

$40,000? $40,000 per bottle. $800 for the shot. Yeah. So that has gone up. So that has gone up. So that has gone up. So people are just buying the bottles and just taking them home? Yeah.

Oh, that's amazing. I think that's the restaurant. Because you could buy it at the store for $14,000. Yeah. So the businesses are going to get theirs. Right. Of course. Classic.

Get three bottles for it. By the way, how cool do you look if you order a Louis XIII bottle for $40,000 when you can get it for $14,000? Yeah. That's tough. The cheapest, lowest version you get is $4,000 for a bottle. Can you just pre-buy them and bring them to the restaurant that day? That's the smart thing.

Hey, we'd be wanting to be in this restaurant. That's the play, Garrett. That's the play right there. You save yourself $26,000. New York, who was it? Sauce Gardener's contract that got leaked, and like half of it just gets taken away immediately. Well, that's from taxes. But then you talk about the db room yeah that'll be the entire secondary yeah

so it's all the safeties all the corners and even some linebackers will probably try to sneak in excuse me excuse me that is like the only way guy you can it's like the earn your stripes moment anymore though right if like people i mean outside of like actually playing like that is something that probably isn't ever gonna go away i don't know i literally as we started talking about who's in the room and everything like that maybe we are hitting an era where they just feel like they don't have to kill dudes yeah more money though hey congrats welcome the nfl we're gonna need about 75 80 grand yeah even the rookies like covet last year or like two years ago because like they couldn't go to these restaurants and like bring as many people yeah so that might be you know maybe these

things did disappear for a couple years that's why garrett wilson was like oh we get to go to dinner that's cool maybe you know the last couple generations were like no no no it's back there we are back in public we are back in overpriced restaurants let alone just how much some steaks are in some oh god Some steaks in some places are just absolutely insane. Everybody lives like kings. Welcome to the NFL, I guess. I'm happy I was not in a room with a lot of people, but

the contract weighs in on it, too. If somebody's a seventh rounder and they get drafted and they have to take a room out, everybody knows that. People will pitch in with it or whatever. They'll keep it or whatever. But if you're a first rounder, they get drafted and they have to take a room out like everybody knows that like people will pitch in with it or whatever they'll keep it or whatever but if you're a first rounder it's like you have done absolutely nothing to earn that money that you just got so for those of us that have been around a little bit we are going to go ahead and enjoy what you did in college all

right congrats welcome to the men's league let's move on sean mcdermott no longer sleeping in his office hey how about a little hey he was sleeping in his uh office you know that's what a lot of nfl coaches do and have to do a head coach doing it this far in to his run i think is admirable i think a lot of people will enjoy that he's trying to find a little better balance in his life you know work-life balance he's trying to figure it out we had a triple h on the show a couple years, and he said work-life balance is a bunch of bullshit, basically. He said those who talk about it have probably never actually experienced any scent of success.

I forget how he laid it out. He said it's all bullshit. It's impossible to actually balance them out because one needs the other, and the one you're never going to quit because you feel like you're helping the other. So you just have to try to be in the moment as much as you possibly can. So whenever you're at home, you've got to be home. When you're at work, you've got to be at work.

It's all a bunch of bullshit, though, trying to find a balance. Sean McDermott said, you've got to be a little bit more balanced than what it has been, though. This is why every time somebody goes into the Hall of Fame in the football world, they thank the significant other in the family and they always say, like, I could have been much better at my job as a dad. I could have been much better as a husband. Because the amount of sacrifice it takes the family and they always say like I could have been much better at my job as a dad I could have been much better as a husband because the amount of sacrifice it takes the family and the significant others and we're not talking about like the military or anybody else when it comes

serious but the amount of time invested in the family whenever it comes to successful people in the NFL is a lot less than time uh invested in becoming successful in the NFL just because there's not a lot of people that have the job. It's a difficult job. It's a very competitive job. And the game is evolving. So there's a big paycheck there at the end of the day, which hopefully takes care of everybody better than they ever would have in the past

with maybe another potential job in the house as opposed to being in the NFL. But at some point, I think every NFL guy gets to a point where they're like, I've wasted my life in the film room and I've missed. Bruce Arians said in his retirement press conference that his wife told him that his son Jake had turned 40. And he said, 40? Where did the years go?

40 is four decades. 40 is so long for Bruce to go, 40 years already? Jesus. Feels like just yesterday he was born or whatever. The amount of dedication. So I like that Sean McDermott's going to go home a little bit. Could that be because the team now has the culture that they were looking to build for all those years? Is he that comfortable with where the Buffalo Bills are that now his obsessive compulsion nature

of having to watch every piece of film to dedicate every moment of his life to that team? Is that a point? I think this is good for him, good for the Bills. And if I was part of Bills Mafia, I'd be like, all right, our guy finally feels like he can maybe say hello to his wife every once in a while. That was my thinking too is when he came in, like they were not great. They've been dominated for 20 years by the Patriots in the division.

And now they're at a place where he built for 20 years by the Patriots in the division. And now they're at a place where he built it up to where he kind of trusts the players maybe a little bit more. Trusts, like you said, the culture and stuff like that where he doesn't have to be there maybe 18, 19 hours a day watching film and stuff like that where things kind of take care of themselves a little bit more. I like the fact that he's trying to find a little bit more balance. You know, because are you happy because you win? Or do you win because you're happy? That's Joel's question. I think you win because you're happy. But a lot of people think that the happiness comes after the win.

And I think you have the wrong mindset. Because when you're happy doing something, you're actually fully committing to it much more so than whenever you're miserable doing something because nobody's going to fully commit to something that's miserable unless you're a full psychopath. So I think you win because you're happy, and I think the wins bring you more happiness,

and I think this is going to help the Bills in the long term. I think this is good news for everybody. Absolutely. You've got Vaughn Miller now, but I also think, too, he just kind of looks at the team as a whole and says, oh, yeah, Josh Allen's our quarterback, and he's probably the best in the league right now. So I'm going to go home and take a nap or something.

I'm going to sleep soundly. We got a 6'5", 245-pound defensive end that runs isos, a quarterback who has a stronger arm than everybody, is learning the game better than everybody. Congrats to my family. Dad's coming back home. What's for dinner? How do we do dinner?

Where do I sit? I don't want to change the subject but as you were just saying that word over and over and over again, I figured if you do call yourself happy though, you're a scumbag. I agree. He's a scumbag.

The guy got laughed out of Minnesota. Did you see that? The whole place pointing and laughing. Even New Day came and pointed you see that? The whole place pointing and laughing. Even New Day came and pointed and laughed. I was at home pointing and laughing. That's your screen? That's your screen. Loser.

You didn't have to, though. All I was hoping is that you guys would get to see all of us in Minneapolis do that to him. And we did. It was awesome. It's hard not to join in. In the moment, people who don't know who this guy is, just know that if you read into everything this dude has done, you would hate this guy. So people either had the night of their life watching him get laughed out of a town,

or they're thinking, oh, this guy doesn't deserve. He does. He absolutely does. He collects schools. He's a freak. He does. He's a scumbag. All those things you could think of.

And I used to know him well. Yeah. And then I get over to WWE, it's like, oh, here's a guy that completely fell in love with the whole WWE game, stepping on people's throats and doing everything for himself and becoming a scumbag and blah, blah, blah. Way to go. He's become a star. This ain't the Corbin I know.

No. And that's what I've been saying all these months now. I'm glad you have been. Yeah, because nobody else is saying it. Also, I'm trying to remind him of like, you know, sometimes it takes a friend to say, you stink. Yeah, sure. Look, this entire city will laugh you the fuck out of here right now.

Is this what you want your life to be? Sometimes that's kind of where I'm at. He said that I would wish I was dead. Oh, Jesus. Call me skinny, too. That was very nice of him. That was very nice of him. That was very nice of him. Actually, I've been gaining a lot of weight.

So, you know, whenever he said that, I've been getting back after it, though. You know, the knee feels really good. Okay, here we go. I wore the Hokas this morning on the treadmill getting ready for Tahoe. I will say I walked like two miles on the treadmill. Calves were locking up. I'm happy I did that. Started to.

Yeah, I need to break into calves a little bit that I'm going to be doing that much walking around the golf course. So I started getting back into it. Need to lose some weight. He called me skinny, which is very nice, and I wish I was dead. I ain't ever going to wish I was dead, man. I'm happy to be alive. I want to live forever. You don't know me.

This is even more. You don't know. I used to think I was going to die young. Now I want to live forever. Who's more primed to call this guy a scumbag than you? You've known him for a long time. You guys used to be friends. Like you said, you know you can notice like hey you used to be a good guy you're acting like a real piece of shit scumbag now so i should almost be thanked by him i'm

expecting to thank you for keeping him honest talk about cultures the culture of that city the head figurehead of that city has got them rolling in the same direction at the same time like they were they knew exactly yeah it's a state but yeah they uh you said that P.J. Fleck, he's the mayor of the whole state. State, city, fucking every town. He's got all of Minnesota. Governor. Sky U, Ma. Yeah.

I did not expect them to be with me on the bum-ass Corbin. I don't know if. That was quick. As I was saying it, I said, oh, hold on. Bum-ass Corbett. And I didn't know what everybody was going to do. Them just repeating it immediately in the same exact rhythm was one of the coolest things I've experienced in some.

Pretty awesome. I did not know what they were going to do. They picked, boom, right into it. By the way, they could have won four or five different ways, and I would have been like, yeah, that's probably the right play. Them going just in any fashion that quickly was fucking fantastic. And then, you know know before i started that minnesota thing i did have fears of calling baton rouge i did have a little bit of oh no that was

an outlier what if this place doesn't know the thing that i was told this place will definitely know so then they went right into it, though. They did. Oh, Minnesota. Minnesota. Minnesota. It was awesome. Yeah, that was really sweet. I was very thankful for everybody in there. That was a fun time. Hopefully get a chance to go back and do the same damn thing. Feeling shot?

What's that? Feeling shot? No, unreal. Let's ride. You guys can't. I mean, the backing. The toxic table. Let's ride riding the conversation with that Ty Schmidt, rocking his John Deere hat and beers with the Ladd shirt.

Shout out to Gumpy back in Canada, I believe. A little progress. All right. At Boston Corner. Wedding date? I don't know if there's a wedding date yet, but I believe there is. There are dates. A weekend getaway, but I believe there is. There are dates. A weekend getaway plan.

I believe there is a potential. Yeah, it's absurd. It's insane. Life is a full simulation right now at Boston Conner. We'll be caddying at Tahoe in a few weeks. He's been preparing. I can't wait to watch you out there, pal. We even have our own custom signs.

Yeah, something to look forward to. Yeah. You think they're going to put you on TV? No. I think they have Yeah. You think they're going to put you on TV? No. I think they have to. I think they're going to have to. When you're sprinting at a ball, okay, when you're, you know, when you're. He's going dead sprint after hit.

Not everyone. I mean, there might be. There might be a couple, though. If it's a par three. In the U.S. Open, they said people are picking up balls on the 18th hole up there in Massachusetts. Did you guys not have sun? It's 50 degrees in the middle of fucking June. Is this why you all are so miserable up there? Is this why the mass hole thing happens?

Because you guys don't experience summer? Everybody there, by the way, maybe the softest people of all time, and if it wasn't that cold. I saw hoodies with jackets on top of hoodies in the middle of June in Massachusetts. Is that normal? What happened? I don't know if it's normal. I think global warming might have something to do with it.

But I do think the weather's just messed up up there. But no, it was a windy day, and that's the country club. That's what happens when the PGA Tour in the U.S. Open, which is not the PGA Tour, goes out to Brookline and plays at the country club. Oh, you were trying to cut the promo for the country club. Yeah. And realize you just, you know, forgot a little piece of information

that we have learned very recently with the abundance of a new league taking dudes out of the PGA Tour. Uh-huh. One by one. Abraham answers, going over to live. That's right. More coming out all week, they said. You can see how Zala Torres,

you know, who's been an absolute guy, a stud, and has played great golf and made a lot of clutch shots, and everybody says, oh, he can't do it, he can't do it, he can't win. There's numerous shots on that Sunday he has to hit to stay in contention. There's putts that have to be knocked down. If you don't think his ass is pucked,

puckered during that entire thing, he had to be. I love the fact that he loves the Wake Forest Demon Deacons, by the way. Congrats to Fitzpatrick, obviously, with the win. But I'm a big fan of this guy. If he was to be told, hey, how about $100 million or so when you go to these majors? It's a little bit more relaxed setting. Now, follow-up, live people are going to have to do much better in the tournament for anybody to take live tournaments serious, I think. Yeah. Right? right for sure it's almost like being viewed as the mls right now

yeah you're gonna take a bunch of money but that late game worth the damn right which is kind of what all these the the really good guys who are kind of up there in the leaderboard they're like we come to these because you want to play against the best guys in the world every single week because we all feel like we're the best in the world. And, you know, shit, Phil, 11 over, missed the cut. DJ, never really in contention. Like, yeah, they just didn't have any guys really make you think that, like, oh, the Liv is going to compete golf-wise with the PGA. Oh, and Goff was awesome this weekend.

He was. And I do like the fact that the country club's greenkeeper guy won an award. And we saw that motivational speech in the morning about, hey, this course is playing against these players. Like, hey, this course better show up. I feel like it was the perfect U.S. Open. There were some difficult shots that the USGA is known for. There were some great shots that came out of nowhere.

Everybody struggled a little bit on that one green that everything would roll back down. It's almost like that's a staple. It feels like the Country Club hit an absolute home run. At Tone Diggs it's great to see you, pal. How did we do gambling over the weekend? I had Zalatorris and Scheffler.

That's gambling, though. But I was happy for Matty Fitzpatrick. He won there as a 13 year old or whatever. He writes down every fucking shot he's ever made or whatever. So gambling, not so good on the open, but it was a good weekend. Okay.

Well, I'm happy you had a great weekend. The gambling will get a little bit better. As will the golf, I think, as we continue to roll into this golf season. They're going to have to carry some shit now. Hey, if this hockey is going to go, obviously, seven games. Hopefully. At least six. Oh, I'm big, Rick.

At least six games. Just give us more than four. But golf is going to have to continue to carry a little bit. Joining us now is a man who probably saw zero golf shots because he's the father of ten. College football national champion, Super Bowl champion, COVID survivor, A.J. Ha. Hey! What's up, pal? Oh, hey, pal.

How you doing? Hey, how was your weekend? Did you get to see the U.S. Open at all? It was fantastic viewing there on Sunday, pal. It was, pal. How you doing? Hey, how was your weekend? Did you get to see the U.S. Open at all? It was fantastic viewing there on Sunday, pal. It was, yeah. I got to see the good parts, the end, right towards when everything was on the line. And our dude, how old is he? 23?

Won the whole thing? Fitz? Yeah. He's young. In there somewhere. He's 27. We're all pulling for Zalatoris, I think.is i think scotty sheffler he's oh yeah yeah he's older than zalatoris too yeah well i mean zalatoris will win one eventually but yeah

it was fun to watch he was a hell of a striker man that 200 yard in the bunker on 18 shot which he could have been he was blessed by the golf gods there because that thing two feet to the right fucked can't get out that thing two feet ahead in that grass fucked can't get out he got blessed by the golf gods there and i love listening to the commentators go oh no oh no can't go left there's miles to the right you're a lot of free drop to the right can't go left that tracer starts going left they're like oh no we now have a little bit there i enjoyed it though good golf is awesome to watch and i think that is something that i was paying attention to while i was like will i ever sit down and watch a live tournament like this probably not you know i mean yeah i mean right now i don't see that happening anytime soon

especially when yeah it's going it will look much different, I guess, a year from now than it does now, but still. Like, will it ever be, will it ever compete, like their events? Will it ever compete with, like, the majors even? I don't know. And the video promos they were putting together for how important the U.S. Open is through the test of time and all the features, it was like, oh, yeah, they're driving home like,

hey, our shit matters over here. the test of time and all the features it was like oh yeah they're driving home like hey our shit matters over here like there is decades and decades and decades of legacy here being built upon every single golf shot will somebody be able to make the turn like nicholas was able to do how about when tiger got hot but like the whole entire building and it was like oh live's gonna start putting over some of these courses they're playing on yeah you. You know, they're going to start putting over some of these courses. Like that London course we knew nothing about. Yeah. A piece about that course, about who's played there, how it's been played.

Like, I think that is something they're missing out on. That's, even though you don't have history, I think you've got to find it because it did feel a little bit more of an affinity to the game for me while watching those and being like, yeah, this is a massive fucking ordeal. You know, AJ? It is, but first, I don't know where is their next tournament. It's at Pumpkin Ridge in Portland, Oregon. Sure. Okay, so if this tournament had PGA events

on it in the past. Puck played there. I think Puck from the real world. He won shot in 86. I do believe Puck has passed. It's a Puck. But also the comedian who is super awkward.

Fred Armisen. Fred Armisen. He shot a 76 on this course two different times. That's the type of shit they need to start saying. If we're going to Portland. Wait, how do you know this? No, that was a made-up stat. It's an example.

That was a made-up stat. What made you think of Fred Armisen? Portlandia, I think. Yeah, that's a made-up stat. Just an example. That was a made-up stat. What made you think of Fred Armisen? Portlandia, I think. Yeah. That's a show. Oh, okay. And then they're in Portland. I was trying to figure out who's in Portland.

Dame? Dame. Dame Dalla came out here. He shot a 73 here two weeks ago. A couple weeks ago. Like, they need to start, you know what I mean? You're going to have to start putting over the course a little bit, I think, in the whole, so we can respect the scores that are being put up there. Because now the only thing we can compare to is expectations

from PGA-type events. So I think there's a little bit of a growth period that'll happen. But you're right. A year from now, what will be the case? What big golf course in the United States will make a deal with Liv? You know, if these majors bounce around from course to course do they have any an infinite agreement with the pga that that's the only course or the only tournament that they'll allow to host on that golf course i think that is going to have to play and do and i think that's what i learned this weekend like the courses matter the history matters and i think whenever we're judging it as an entirety of a fan base, you know? Why do you think so many people love watching the Masters?

Obviously, like, the beauty of it and how it's so manicured and everything, but it's just, it's like the history. So much goes into that tournament, into the course, really. Like, not even, yeah, the tournament, of course, but people. I mean, I'm sure you've ran into people. People would kill their own kids to go play at Augusta Like how they talk about that I saw AJ Dillon actually put out a tweet Said hey I need like a plus three on Augusta

Or something like that Yeah not gonna happen I don't think so Maybe a lot of Green Bay Packers fans out there Maybe he'll get in there The sauce will be able to get in there But it is I think that's what I learned most this weekend while watching it

Great golf is awesome to watch a little bit of drama also awesome to watch and then the course matters the course matters in golf it is the opponent of everybody and that's why old buddy won that award for the first time like 100 years congrats to massachusetts yeah cold ass massachusetts put on a hell of a turning up yeah well i mean the weather had to also you know play a a hell of a turning up there. Yeah, well, I mean, the weather had to also, you know, play a little bit of a part for the Open, for the course to be even harder. And they're already putting over the British Open course,

I'm pretty sure. I was already seeing commercials. That's where golf was invented. Yeah, St. Andrews. Also loved seeing the caddy finally win a major. That was cool. Hey, Billy Foster. Good boy, Billy.

Good boy, William Foster. You're both from the Yorkshire area of England. Ain't that right, Tony? That is right. A couple of Yorkshire area of England Ain't that right Tony? That is right A couple Yorkshire champions over here in the United States So a lot of foreigners win the US Open The original US Open I learned Was only

Foreign competitors Really? It was considered like the United States Open People come in and play I think if I was listening to the trophy ceremony Accurately I might have misheard it. But they talked about the history and how it is a big tournament for people in Europe and everything to come over and win. It's a big fucking deal.

I'm like, shout out to the United States still holding a little bit of juice. Like, hey, winning our tournament's a big fucking deal still. Just like I'd assume going over and winning the British Open for every American golfer is awesome. It's like, hey, we're winning it over here. John Daly won the British Open, right? Is that what he won? And the PGA. He won the PGA for sure.

I think he did win the British Open as well. I think that's his, yeah. PGA, he was like a Friday qualifier or a late edition. That was here. Bam, won that sucker. That was here. That was in Indiana. Crooked stick.

There's still legendary tales about the crowd, how it grew like in a movie from day one for them to day two for them. Day three here, the amount of Indiana people that were following them around, watching them drink. Everybody has a story about how many beers they saw them drink on that Saturday round or on the Sunday round. The whole thing. Yeah, it's a big deal.

But I think he did win the British Open, I believe. That is 1995. 1995. Hey, the European fans are I believe. Yeah, 1995. 1995. Wow. Hey, the European fans are fucking awesome, by the way. Yeah, they seem to be a little more spirited, I feel like, at times than we are. Yeah, they're used to boring sports.

So, hey, we've got to entertain ourselves. So let's go. We'll put on a show. Is that what it is? I think, personally. It's soccer, so they're like, hey, man, if we don't bring the juice, we know the players can't do it from there. We have to do it. Well, the game naturally in itself is a beautiful game.

It's a patient game. It's a things are going to happen. So I think a lot of the boozed up crowd, I'm going to fall asleep. We don't start fucking. All right, we're going to have a chant every four minutes. There will be a new chant, new song. We'll go crazy. And then when the other team, which is representing another town, another town comes into our town, they start doing their shit.

And then we'll just do it for 94, 95, 120 minutes straight. So some of us won't even know there's a fucking game going on until a goal happens. Feels like that's maybe what it is. And it is carried into every other form of entertainment. Like when WWE goes to europe if it's fucking banana land over there banana land i would assume when football goes over there the entire time they're loud in the game that i was in it is i like that fan base i don't know if we'll ever be able to get it over here and i hope they never lose it over there uh that shit is a weapon yeah

like when the ufc went over there i'm pretty is a weapon. Yeah, when the UFC went over there, I'm pretty sure they had a bunch of fighters from England. Was that during? Yeah, well, he said something about, he said Liverpool Stadium. Isn't that what? Paddy? Paddy the Baddie said.

He said, take this thing to a stadium in Liverpool. We'll sell that whatever thing out. He said this is too small. Not the O2, is he? O2 Arena? I think they were in the O2 Arena. He said this is too small. Not the O2, is he? O2 Arena? I think they were in the O2 Arena. He said this is too small. Oh, let's go outdoors. Let's go to a stadium.

Yeah, and Liverpool will sell the whole place out. By the way, that would be an electrifying place to go. Let's talk about some things happening around the NFL, AJ. The NFL and the NFLPA are going to battle over Watson's discipline. We learned this last Friday with Ian Rappaport that the way this thing will go is the NFL will have a representative or representatives. The NFLPA will have a representative or representatives. They will present their cases for what Deshaun Watson's punishment should be to a lady named

Sue L. Robinson or Richardson? Robinson. Robinson. Sue L. Robinson. She has been designated as the independent party, the third party that will do the hearings from the NFL and the NFLPA. The NFLPA will obviously be pitching a lesser punishment than the NFL. The NFL allegedly pitching for an entire season being the punishment.

Sue will rule on that case where lawyers will present entire arguments to her. She will then have a recommendation for her ruling to Roger Goodell on what he should do and how many games he should punish Deshaun Watson. She makes a ruling from the first court between NFL and NFLPA. That ruling then becomes a recommendation to Roger Goodell. He makes a final and firm decision for Deshaun Watson's penalty. The NFLPA has said, AJ, and this is something that a lot of other players are absolutely going to love, and I believe we have a tweet for it here. Part of the NFLPA's planned defense of Watson, comparing whatever discipline the NFL proposes to how owners,

such as Dan Snyder, have been punished when accused of misconduct. I believe there's also a tweet that says the NFLPA is getting, with Deshaun Watson's discipline looming, the NFLPA is preparing to wage a high-powered battle versus the NFL. The union has already brought in Jeffrey Kessler to defend the quarterback. This is another conversation, AJ,

about the NFLPA spending a lot of NFLPA money to defend Deshaun watson and there's going to be a lot of other nfl players saying this is where all of our fucking money goes here's just a little inside conversation that happens but what are your thoughts on this aj and how do you think it pans out here well when they're like when these the nfl lawyers are presenting like hey this is look at what you didn't do to the owners, right? Like when they present this to the judge, that's all behind closed doors. Who all gets to see that? Do we know? I think just Sue, right? Yeah, that's a shame. Like that would be fun to see. I would

love to see that if there was cameras in the room to watch how they argue that how these defense lawyers go about it. But why not? I mean, that is your that seems to be a good defense to me. I mean, you have to talk to a lawyer, but isn't that what you would do? Well, yeah, and then Sue would say, well, I was never around with any of these things happened. So that's the counterargument. What has happened in the past, Sue, has nothing to do with what happens from this point forward. That's why you got the job. That has to be exactly what the NFL will argue. Is Jeffrey Kessler an outside lawyer being brought in by the NFLPA?

So he represented Tom Brady in the Flategate. He represented athletes against the NCAA. I was just reading about him right now. He's part of a law firm. I don't think he's with the PA. Can you check what his hourly rate is? Okay. He's a partner at Winston and Strong.

He's got a pretty big retainer, I would imagine, from the NFL. Yeah, I saw he also was the guy who basically argued so that they instated free agency in the NFL as well. Way back? Yeah. Reggie White? I believe so, yeah. Damn. So he's been around a long time.

Yeah. So his price is only going up, I'd assume, with all the successes he has had. But that is a conversation around the NFLfl locker rooms right now by the way how much money are we paying jeffrey kessler to represent the sean watson then you're going to up the fees for the union probably next year to boost this fund that we might war chest that we might need in the future that only tends to go to certain the right aj am i wrong in saying this yeah war chest. They love using that war chest back in the day before the lockout of what? 2011, whenever that happened, whatever off-season it was.

How much do we have in the war chest? 50 million or so? Okay. Is that not enough? Lawyer fees. We're getting locked out, boys. They're going to lock the doors, guys. So just be ready.

Be prepared. It is happening. And then lawyer fees, by the way, we're always tossed in there. Lawyer fees, lawyer fees. I'm like, well, isn't that the fees we're fucking paying to be in this thing? No, no. Well, yeah, but that is accrued in there.

And then there's representatives and all these. Because every time somebody appeals something, an NFLPA representative or lawyer is with them, right? So that's their case getting paid for. That's representation from the NFLPA for the players. Whenever you hire somebody from the outside in, I assume Jeffrey Kessler's going to take quite a penny from that entire thing, and that's going to cause a whole other conversation

behind closed doors. But good luck to all parties in there. And Sue Robinson, her first case she's hearing. Good luck. Good luck. You're right, though. I wonder if we'll ever hear the arguments to be made. The PA will You're right, though. I wonder if we'll ever hear the arguments to be made. The PA will eventually leak out, I'm sure.

They could even make it public to us, like, hey, this is what we presented. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that problem. Nothing wrong with that at all. And normally the NFL PA never does that because they want zero leverage in the public perception. It seems like that is their go-to move. The NFL is always the ones that leak the information. For instance, they did last week when they said the NFL will be pitching for an entire season suspension.

So that's the NFL getting in front of the PR-wise. This is what we are proposing. So if anything comes less than that, that is Sue or Roger Goodell doing it, which is fascinating because the NFL works for Roger Goodell in the end. When does Sue hear this? When does Sue hear both sides? Who knows? Joining us now is a man who

might have more information, but probably knows just as much as all of us because this is all a little bit murky as we try to dive into who's paying who. And does Sue actually have final say? No. But you can't appeal Sue's ruling, I guess.

But then if the appealing changes, then that is what's presented to Roger Goodell. The fuck? Roger Goodell makes the end-up decision. sues ruling i guess but then if the appealing changes then that is what's presented to roger goodell the fuck roger goodell makes the end up decision sue's definitely helping though can't wait to hear it turns out joining us now hosting a man-to-man podcast in a guy who uh knows everything there is to know about the nfl nine-year nfl vet drafted by the patriots also spent time with the panthers and the colts uh dariarius Butler. Hey, D-Bud! Fellas, fellas, what's up?

D-Bud, we got Josina Anderson in the third hour, and hopefully she'll be able to know more about the whole process. But this whole court thing for another thing is interesting to kind of think about, D-Bud. Where did we jump? I just jumped in. You talking about Deshaun? Yeah, so the NFL and the NFLPA are going to court with a judge named Sue Robinson

who has been appointed as an independent third-party judge or whatever. Then she will make a ruling. It can be appealed by both parties. Then once it's finally ruled, she will then give that as a recommendation to Roger Goodell for the actual punishment that Roger Goodell will put in there. The NFLPA has hired some high-powered lawyer named Jeffrey Kessler for their defense, and they'll be talking about previous rulings against owners whenever something like this has happened.

And then the NFL has already said they're pitching for a full year's suspension in the trial. We talked about how people are going to be very happy that the NFLPA was spending money on this high-powered lawyer to defend Deshaun Watson. There's going to be guys pissed off about that. Yeah, somebody's going to be very happy that the NFLPA was spending money on this high-powered lawyer to defend Deshaun Watson. There's going to be guys pissed off about that. Yeah, somebody's going to be pissed off regardless of how this all turns out. Obviously, some serious allegations.

Criminally, they couldn't find enough evidence to charge them. Criminally, you can't win the public thing. It's 66 cases. Now, that's obviously a bad look, but as we know, we've been around some, a lot of weird adults that are into some weird shit. So the amount of cases doesn't necessarily say he's guilty or not, but I hope justice is served, you know, either way, you know, once it's all, you know, once everything, all the chips fall where they may. 26 cases, 66 allegations in the New York Times. So, yeah.

It's a lot of therapists. That's a lot. And this is Sue Robinson's first case, I think, as the NFL's third-party independent arbitrator, whatever. So, all eyes are on this. Let's dive into something that Bart Scott said, though, Darius Butler, because I think this will be interesting because you got to play against both of these men. He said it's much more scary to take on Peyton Manning. Yeah, former NFL linebacker Bart Scott admitted that it was more nerve wracking to face Peyton Manning as a quarterback than Tom Brady. This particular tweet comes from Sports Illustrated, but everybody

was following this. Why is that, D-Butt? And do you think that is a lot of people's thoughts in the defense and in the secondary? No, I think if you ask defenders, it'll probably be split down the middle or close, maybe 60-40 one way. You split hairs whenever you get into talking about these all-time great quarterbacks, Peyton, Brady. I grew up watching that rivalry, obviously. But they brought different things

to the game. Peyton was more of that sheriff at the line of scrimmage. You knew where his guys were going to be. You knew where Reggie and Marv were going to be. You knew where Garçon and Reggie were going to be, but he would get to the line and change routes up, change plays up, adjust a lot on the fly. Brady did

it kind of differently. He would fuck you over with personnel. You know, he may have 13 in the huddle or 22 in the huddle and then come out in an empty set. And he would change the tempo a lot. He'll get to the line of scrimmage quick sometimes. Sometimes he'll get there and adjust. So it was different things with the different players.

But if you ask 1,000 defenders, it'll probably be split right down the middle. Me and A.B. talked about it this morning on the pod. Obviously, Antoine, he played 14 years in the league a bunch of those years of payton beat brady to go to a super bowl and he basically said the same thing uh he did pick brady though if he had to pick one just because he did that to go to a super bowl and uh you know i will go against payton i have more success against payton on the teams individually so i think if you ask defenders it'll probably be split down the middle that's kind of preposterous to say every defender would say uh they'd rather play Tom than Peyton I guess come on now dude's still going for 5,000 yards

right I think you're right D-butt I think you're right there's not like there's a crazy different like style of play we're not saying Peyton Manning Mike Vick like where you have to defend him much differently. But I wanted to ask you about the quarterbacks, about Peyton and Tom. You think we're going to see many guys like him as the quarterback position as we continue in the NFL, these old school kind of stand there, take your drop, get rid of the ball quarterbacks. Even the younger guys that are big can move like hell. We we know that. Like, are these guys going to be able to continue to play? I mean, I think so. I think it's always a place for a quarterback that can sit in the pocket and, you know, just dissect defenses.

Because it's all about matchup. Like, speaking of Bart Scott, I remember Monday night football game 2010 and Gillette stating we beat the Jets 45-3. Hell yeah. And he didn't target Revis one time. and Gillette stating we beat the Jets 45-3. Hell yeah. And he didn't target Revis one time. I think he barely targeted Cromartie. So it was all about finding a matchup.

They did end up beating us in the divisional playoffs that year and maybe went to the NFC Championship that year. But I think it's always a place for a pocket quarterback. And then, you know, being able to use your legs when you can. Young guys like Trevor Lawrence, he can be a pocket guy who can uh dissect things from the pocket but also run and run for a 20-yard uh scramble same with herbert um burrows not as fast as those guys but i think it'll always be a place for those pocket quarterbacks yeah mac i think is the most recent success story but he's only a rookie and i guess we did see him gritty at the pro bowl he did yeah he has some rhythm we'll be able to move a little bit ran a four six how about it do you think you have to

be able to dissect the defense to win a super bowl that's what i like i think you have to have that level so aj is like are these people going to exist great question because mac seems to be the only real one right now joey burrow kind of of similar. But those are really, the guys that are winning Super Bowls are the dissectors of the defense. Do you think you have to have that ability to win then? I think you do. I mean, you just got to because defenses, you know, especially once you get into the later part of the season,

you know, defenses, it's different when you just have two, three days to prepare for an opponent. And then the coaches are already kind of halfway preparing for the next opponent in the middle of that week. And the playoffs late in the season, you know, it's all hands on deck to win that one game. So defenses are going to throw their best. They're going to throw all the different looks. They're going to take away the things and try to make you beat you left-handed. So the quarterbacks like Brady,

like Manning, like Montana, the Super Bowl winners over the years, they did the best at adjusting and stepping up in the most clutch situation. So I think some of these guys that can beat you with their legs as well have the ability. Lamar Jackson, Colin Murray, guys like

that have the ability to win Super Bowls. But at the end of the day, you know, most games come down to two minutes. And if you can, you know, it's a lot of dissecting that goes into two minutes. A lot of coaches put their game plan in, but the quarterbacks kind of got to take that offense by the horns and get it done. So I think you got to be able to do that. You got to be able to dissect and get the ball to your playmakers and make pinpoint throws. I think it's – the people we see succeed seem to have common trends.

You know, the teams, I mean, that we see succeed seem to have common trends right now. A lot of stars, a lot of power, and a quarterback that can throw the ball all over the yard. And although the game is continuing to change, you still see that old school, gotta be able to stop the run, gotta be able to run the ball at certain times. It's always gonna, it's always there.

You know, it's always there. Yeah, go ahead, Ty Schmitt. D-Bot, do you think there are any guys right now, I mean, like we always hear about, you know, Rodgers and Mahomes and some of the guys who are kind of in that next tier in terms of like losing sleep over them before you play, but even like Mahomes kind of, you know, he throws a decent amount of interceptions,

or at least he has the last couple of years. Like, do you think there's that same kind of mythology around anyone now that there is Peyton and Brady or not really? I mean, Peyton, they were just so consistent, like year in, year out. Like you saw Josh Allen, you know, burst onto the scene. I mean, Patrick Mahomes has been consistent uh so far but that's a different thing uh herbert burrow those guys are right there they look like they can be you know two of two of the best uh coming up young getting better every year uh surrounded by a bunch of talent but those guys all those guys right there herbert, Burrow,

I'm still very interested to see Lamar and his development this year. Obviously, this is going to be a contract year. He's led the league in passing before. I've seen him be able to dissect and read blitzes and read matchups, but I think the play call of Greg Roman kind of has to evolve

as well and put more on his plate to spread it out. Because you got a great run system and great defenses, but you got to be able to pass that ball and make all the throws and make all the reads. And I think Lamar can do it. I just think he needs more weapons and, I guess, an evolved playbook as well to show those tools.

Greg Roman still being there is wild. Yeah. You know, because normally – They win. They win. They win a lot. I mean, everybody doesn't just come in. We talk about Peyton. It took a while for him

to have that postseason success. Lamar wins a hell of a lot. Greg Roman won when he was in San Francisco, got to the Super Bowl. A lot of things have to go right to win in the playoffs. I'm not surprised that Roman's still been there, but like I said, he definitely

has to evolve. So does Lam said, he definitely has to evolve. And so does Lamar. Lamar has to evolve as well. There's a lot of public shots, though, that have been taken about his play calling abilities. And normally in the common era that we're in right now, if something's public and then success doesn't happen and it feeds the narrative, normally that guy's done.

See, we got to move on. Them sticking with him is fascinating, especially after the Hollywood trade. Here we go. Let's see what they got. Him going into last year of his deal, too. All adds to it. Go ahead, Connor. I got a good culture over there, man. I think so. I honestly do believe.

I think they do, even though Lamar wasn't there for the voluntary stuff and everybody made that a big deal. As soon as he got back in the building, it felt like everybody was all the way back. I am enjoying what the Baltimore Ravens are becoming, and I think last year was an anomaly. I think they're back.

I think they're going to be good again, and that AFC North is hot. It's that. It's that. That's my pick to win it, though. I got Ravens winning that division. Oh, it's pretty good odds, right? I mean, that's like plus. Two-something.

240 maybe? I think it was plus 220 the last few weeks back. That's good odds. Let's go get that money, I guess. AFC North, Ravens plus 160 now. Bengals plus 200. Browns plus 250. Steelers plus 850 still.

They haven't seen a single thing out of Pittsburgh that made them move those odds for the last two months. They just ran Mitchell Trubisky playing the Green Bay Packers as a Chicago Bear this morning. Look for those odds to change even more. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Deebo, we saw on the Pivot podcast Garrett Wilson find out about what the rookie dinners actually are like. Do you have any stories when you were in the league and you had to do that yourself?

First of all, that was hilarious. Love that podcast. His face was priceless. He was like, yeah, rookie dinner, that'll be cool. That'll be fun. No, no, it's not. Yeah, I got memories. Actually, Fred Taylor brought it up in that podcast when he talked about Brady showing up to the dinner,

ordering a few bottles of wines that you never heard of, taking a few sips, getting out of there. Yeah, that pissed us off. We had a great plan. We had a preset menu. We had a great plan we had a preset menu uh we had a big class me patrick chung ron brady skyrestle so sebastian vom with four second rounders we had like 11 picks adam was in that class hoyer and uh we had a preset menu which you know it still had a variety and we said all right we know we're gonna get hit with the liquor but we'll be all right and uh brady came in there and

just just fucked it up for us. And we did it as a team, too. Most teams, they do it as position groups. So the DBs, they got the DBs, O-line, quarterbacks, etc. But in Patriot, true Patriot fashion, there was a whole team in there. And it's good, though. You know, you take it. It's all in fun.

The vets, if you got some good vets, they don't take advantage of you too much. Speaking of the Jets, they got a number four overall pick the number 10 overall pick and then i think maybe a 20 something so maybe three first rounders i think so they're gonna have a blast this year it might be one and 11 at the time they're gonna have a blast when they go out at rookie dinner i said uh whenever we first talked about this in the first hour hazing is kind of disappearing from the sport as a whole, I believe, as society moves on.

I don't know if those rookie dinners will ever disappear. I don't know. That feels like something that will live on forever. As long as there's some OGs in the rooms, that will continue to take place. I've heard about places making people get planes and flying places. If there's like two first-rounders in the same position group or whatever, oh yeah, sweet. We're taking a plane to Vegas. Let's go. We're having a good time. It's like a couple hundred thousand.

How was it for you? I haven't had too many conversations with specialists about their rookie. Nothing. A couple thousand, no big deal. I'll see you later. That was a poker game. I'm out. It was awesome. What about you, AJ? Top five, OCBA? Oh! I was lucky. I was awesome. What about you, AJ? Top five, OCBA.

Oh. I was lucky. I was in Green Bay. Set menu, like you said, D-Butt, the defense, showed up. But it was like a – you know, it was Tuesday, big practice on Wednesday. Guys didn't want to get too wild. Bill was nice. Nice.

No liquor problems? No Louie? No, no. They're like, no, it's Green Bay, man. I don't think they serve that. I was there at Apple. Hey, shout out Devin McCourty. I got it back.

I got it back in blood that next year. I still got that bottle of Louie. Oh, yeah. That's $14,000. $14,000 at the liquor store. $40,000 at some restaurants. Good get by you. Good purchase.

Last question here, D-Buck. Go ahead, Tony. D-Buck, a guy that has dominated Lamar Jackson, Minka Fitzpatrick, just got paid number one paid safety in the NFL. Is he, not just money-wise, is he the top guy on the field, do you think, at that position? Shoot, one of them. One of them, for sure.

I mean, AB talked about it. AB said top three. I definitely agree with that. You got Simmons, you got a lot of guys out there, but Minka, he came into the league. He could do everything. Corner, he can cover, he can slot. That's kind of why he wanted to get out of Miami.

Miami wanted to do too much with him, but he got to Pittsburgh. They put him in a position. So I think he's going to continue to flourish. Ball production, he can fly around, make all the plays. Okay, Pop, I see you out there. Y'all throw some sweet picks up right there. Shout out to Minka, man. Well, well deserved.

I'm glad he got paid. I mean, Freeman, Sergio, Pops. I believe I saw Melvin on there. That was a great lineup of pictures. Great work in the back there. You lost all service, D-Butt. You currently no service, but it's perfect timing. We appreciate you stopping by.

Maybe take that Louis XIII bottle to the internet, folks, and let's see if we can get you back for next time. We appreciate the hell out of you, man. Appreciate you. I don't know what the fuck happened. It happens. Ladies and gentlemen, Terry's Butler. Hey, the team rookie dinner is good move.

Never heard of that before. Obviously, the Patriots do things the Patriots way. Tom walking in, just give me that. How many years is that wine? All right. That's not enough. Give me the 50. Yeah, that one.

That one. All right. Nah, I don't like that one. Nah, don't like that one either. Can I get another one of these, please? Yep. That's $12,000 worth of wine. I didn't like any of them. All right. I out of here i'll see you guys yeah that's really

how it goes in watching watching uh garrett wilson learn that what is going on ohio state you guys don't tell these guys the truth i don't know how he doesn't know that honestly i really maybe covid they've been all in shelter for the last two or three years can we run that video please real quick just to showcase what we were talking about here. Here's Garrett Wilson learning about what a rookie dinner is in the NFL, especially if you're a fucking top 10 pick. They did tell me about the dinner. I got to take all the receivers to a dinner. That's going to be cool.

I'm excited for that. It's not going to be cool. You know they're going to run that bill up? Like 75,000? Oh, yeah. You mean like the Louis XIII you're going to have to buy at the restaurant? No, they ain't doing me for 75K. I ain't going to fake it.

No, no, no. It's the rookie dinner. It's all of y'all. You're the tip pick of the draft, too. They know you got 20 guaranteed. Wait, what you say rookie dinner? He thinks it's his decision. That was so cute.

That was so cute. Hey, listen, 75. Yeah, that's coming. How do you not know that? Ohio State's not preparing these guys for the NFL, listen. 75. Yeah, that's coming. How did he not know that? Ohio State's not preparing these guys for the NFL, AJ? Bobby Carpenter's not running laps with them anymore. I mean, I would imagine Bob has had plenty of conversations with him. Bob, I don't know why I didn't mention this to him.

He should have talked. Mangold obviously doesn't live in Columbus right now, but Nick and DeBrickishaw Ferguson were both first-round picks his year. I think they took him to Atlantis or Vegas. He took the whole line. Damn. Yeah. Yep. That's one of the ones that I heard about.

You should see what they did to fucking these two guys. They got a chance to get a plane and fly to Vegas and do the whole thing. The plane? Yeah. Had to be a big plane, too. A lot of big guys. Yeah. Can't be one of those small planes.

It has to be a big plane. That's insanity. I did see Ohio State leads the entire league in NIL stuff, though. Look at Ohio State. Front office sports, which love-hate relationship with, but they break a lot of news. Ohio State athletes

have surpassed 1,000 NIL deals in year one per OSU NIL. The Buckeyes have ranked first in NIL compensation and number of athletes with at least one NIL deal. Look at you guys over there in Columbus. This has kind of been the way it's always been. If you're a player for the Ohio State Buckeyes,

there's going to be money for you to find around Ohio because everybody in Ohio fucking loves the Ohio State Buckeyes. You could be a Browns fan, a Bengals fan. Fuck, you could be a fan of anything in Ohio. But if you were born in the state that creates, you know, the similar type humans at a rapid rate, you love the Ohio State Buckeyes. AJ, you've been getting paid by these guys for a long time. Are you pumped that Ohio State has a real chance at competing

with a lot of these big-time programs down in the South? And although Ryan Day came out and said, hey, we need like $13 million, everybody in Columbus was like, you fucking got it, pal. All you got to do is just put a lot of bird call out there. Columbus is the real deal, AJ, the fucking real deal. Yeah, I mean, we've talked about this before, Pat, where I assumed every school was the same way,

where when we would get done, you get done with your bowl game your senior year, you go out and you can sign autographs once or twice a week around the state and you can make a great chunk of money doing that how much how much how much like that what do you mean how much great chunk of signing or just like over what do you mean uh let's say one off season after you're done being a senior at Ohio State going into the draft one off season before draft how much money you think guys can make signing on a draft? It depends how many you would want to do and what position and all of that. But, I mean, the range, like, okay, just for one, like,

one two-hour signing easily when you're done, the lowest end probably gets, what, two grand up to 50, 40 for two hours? So you do like five of those? Yeah, AJ got 50. Yeah, of course. No, no, no. I'm saying the range can be crazy, though. For two hours? You do like five of those? Yeah. AJ got 50. Yeah, of course. No, no, no. I'm saying the range can be crazy, though.

Depending on if you won your bowl game, what your season, your whole thing was. Ohio State has been. Now you get paid while you're playing, though. That's the thing. Now you get that while you're on the team. Pretty cool. Pretty cool.

I'd say. Hey, it's good for Ohio State, honestly. They're going to be one of the only programs in the country that can keep up with some of these other schools that have been doing this for a long time, mostly because it's already built in, it feels like. The cult is already there, right? They spend money every week in a charity event. Remember we read that tweet that the car dealership is tweeting

at Ryan Day's tweet saying, hey, we're looking to give money away. Call us. Just fucking tell us, Ryan. Jeez, we just sold 15 cars. We already sent all that money right to the program. You let us know who needs it. CJ Schreib? No problem.

Whatever the fuck you guys want, let's win some games up here. Because the O-H! That's your turn. It's your turn. I got your fucking tongue. Is your mic muted? What are we doing? Come on, dude.

Will you please? Am I the caller? Was it Mike, Steve? Who was the caller? Oh, my God. Minnesota spelled out their entire state, okay, the other night on Friday. Said their name three, four times. Don't let recruits see that, okay?

They see the Minnesotans doing that, and then they see this fucking guy, Ohio State legend, refusing to buy in to the program. All these sponsors are giving all this money and they got you, the face of Ohio State every single day, refusing to buy into the program. Do you think you're maybe running this team into the

fucking ground? Do you think about that, AJ? I might have to think about that now. Thank you for bringing it to my attention. No problem. He doesn't even fucking fucking care this guy's been getting fucking money hand over fist the last 50 years living in that goddamn yeah just hey give me back to Columbus I'll get all this money and I gave the IO back to all of them every one of them well not the recruits they see every single day refuse to give it out there might not must recruits yeah when I see recruits and their parents yell at me,

I-O, baby, go high five, give them a rock, boom, boom, boom. It's not real, though. You see it. You see it here every day. It's not real. As soon as you graduate, he won't say anything to you. Dirtbag. But a follow-up, the OHIOs will be wonderful in the national championship again

if we get there and the town says, we're going to help. We want to be a part of this. And that's the type of fan base you were hoping for in every single sport. Just like the Boston folks, how they were being chastised for being too aggressive and saying things. That's the fans you want. What's going on in Ohio State and has been going on in Ohio State, now that it's especially legal, every school is looking for that.

And that by itself is a massive recruiting tool right there. Front office sports just put out massive right there, AJ. tool right there front office sports massive right there aj every other ad in college sports is they like if you look they look at some of these big-time schools that have all these donors that are already kind of built in been doing it for years and it's what they do their whole family like just continues that i'm sure they're very jealous when they see like an ohio state when other schools like you got to go probably beat the streets cold call get all these new donors involved at all times. Like, it's always a battle.

Believe me, they are working their balls off at Ohio State to try to bring in more money every single day. I know that. But either way, man, it would be pretty nice. I like having a, you know, a small connection to the beautiful people of OH. What about it? This guy.

Let's get to it. Why would I do it now? What do you think? If you just continue to do it, you're going to bully me? I thought it was going to be a make-up I.O. For the recruits. A make-up I.O. For the recruits.

For Ohio. The recruits, no. No, they don't. Not hard enough anymore. They have enough awareness to know you're sarcastic O.H. to me. No. Because there's people coming out of O.H. Doing what?

I.O. That don't even know what a fucking rookie dinner is. No, I do. I'm worried that the self-awareness at Ohio State's going down. And that doesn't mean titles are coming up. Everyone just focus on ball. All right. Love ball.

I love Ryan Day's got the whistle on it all the time. Yeah. Could you imagine if he would have said, Hit! To you in the middle while you're dropping off your kick? Chopping my feet in the hallway at a basketball arena oh my god i don't how many until i say we're done ryan day gets the entire city of columbus to do up downs at any time that's why he wears the whistle fucking walks in a grocery store you guys got any milk we're out of milk all All right, fucking chop them.

That would be fucking amazing. I guarantee you, he could get a full Kroger's to do that. Absolutely. That's how all in Ohio State is. Congrats to all of them. I wish there was a better representative that had to show everything. Yeah, me too.

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That's what we're doing. And listen, because I don't know, is that a human-linked necklace you have? Because if I got to fit in, you know, I can do, I got a big chain, too. Look at that. I'm just saying. I can put my hip-hop chain on, too, now. I Look at that. I'm just saying. I can put my hip-hop chain on, too, now. I'm just saying. I'm just saying.

Am I good now? Yeah, you made us immediately much better. I mean, I can already tell. I don't know if we have any conversation of substance. You have already made our show better. We appreciate you. Hey, we know you're very busy. Thank you for taking time out.

We can't wait to chat with you. There's some things cooking here in the NFL with the summer kicking off uh what do you think is the next big story to break and how do you feel I mean you're we'll start in Cleveland you were just there is the Baker news going to be the next big news you think the Deshaun news seems like Cleveland is the focal point of a lot of these off-season convos Josie and then we know you were just there well we know that the league right now prefers to try to get this thing resolved with Deshaun Watson prior to training camp.

I mean, I think that's just fair for the Browns to have an idea of who their quarterback is and for everybody in the league to just move on from this because this has just been going on for some time. And I also say that because I got a text, you know, from a league source

around the Panther situation who on Friday was telling me on for some time. And I also say that because I got a text, you know, from a leak source around the Panther situation, who on Friday was telling me that nothing was coming down imminently. But I did hear going into the weekend, I tweeted about this, that per my understanding, you know, there are people from the organization, I'll just leave it at that kind of looking into Baker situation, still asking questions relative to the football side and the personal side. And what I mean by that is obviously things that don't have to just do with X's and O's. Josina, how much, like, is there an estimate of how much they're going to have to pick up of his salary for the Browns to actually let him go?

So the last thing I heard, you know, in my understanding, is that the Browns are willing to do whatever is fair. And obviously, you know, whatever the interpretation of fair is kind of differs between both teams. But one thing I've been saying, AJ, is that like and also Pat and everybody else, is that this for me is not really a money thing. Right. Because the Browns have 42 million in cap space. The Panthers have 25. And when you're looking at Baker's salary in 18, this is not like something that the Panthers can afford. To me, this is about principle and about philosophy and what both teams feels like

should happen per the situation. So it's not really about affordability. It's about what do I think I should pay? Because I know eventually you have to get rid of Baker. And from their side is what should we not pay? Because we know that he's coming there to be a starter. And right now you have quarterbacks that are making upward of 40 million in this league. So when you think about the option amount at 18, that's not really anything, Pat. I mean, that's not really nothing. So this is all about, to me, pride and philosophy of what should happen. But look at this. It's easy to back off of this, right, in May and June when we're all getting ready to do our Nantucket vacations. I'm sure y'all going to the Maldives, Ibiza, wherever the

heck y'all going, right? Once y'all finish finish that but what i'm saying is when we get to september august or whatever it's a little harder to play that off okay do you think baker's going to be on the move for sure you're you think that's a done deal they're going to end up having to figure it out well eventually you have to do it but i really think a lot of this also comes down to baker like i said i know for a fact guys that the Browns are willing to do what's fair, obviously, right? But you have some kind of mitigating circumstances with Deshaun's situation. And per what I was hearing, you know, because people like, oh, oh, oh, well, you know, they got to cut him because eventually he has to go. Well, not necessarily. One, because everything that

I've heard is that why are we gonna cut Baker when we have to pay him anyways? So we might as well get something out of it. And that's not just to sit at home with your ball in the sandbox talking about I'm not going to play. Okay, so the Deshaun Watson news, you're saying everybody wants it? Everybody wants the news around the NFL. We have kind of learned about the process of how it will go. The NFL and the NFLPA will present their case to Sue Robinson,

who's a former federal judge who's been hired for the first time here as an independent arbitrator because Roger Goodell was judge, jury, and executioner under the previous CBA, and everybody hated it. Now they added a layer of protection to that narrative by having Sue Robinson hear the case, and then she'll present a recommendation to Goodell Goodell inevitably makes a decision in the end do you think Goodell already knows what he wants to punish and do you think Sue already knows what she wants to punish

they just have to go through the entire process and what is everybody expecting here Josuna so and all right so a few questions there you're absolutely right as far as Sue Robinson right and jointly appointed by both sides and she's going to listen to the recommendation from the league. Obviously, Lisa Friel has been leading that investigation. She'll make her determination. Now, one thing I do want to say is that if she determines there's no violation, there's nothing that happens after that. If she determines that there is a violation, either side can appeal. Roger Goodell eventually will come down. He can go up or down with that determination. We expect her, I would say, based on the things that I hear, and that would answer another part of your question, which is the thing that I've heard is,

Joe, you know, you have to listen to the history of recommendations. And what do I mean by that? In terms of prior suspensions that have happened. Now, that doesn't mean that every case that has happened in the past, whether it be Ben Roethlisberger, Ezekiel Elliott, Kareem Hunt, Antonio Brown is apples to apples situation. But there's some precedent there as far as discipline occurring. It's not apples to apples. So the person is saying to me that when you look at that, that lays some sort of groundwork. It doesn't mean that I'm like, you know, basically trying to enter a prejudice with regards to Deshaun. But if you're listening to some of the things that you hear, it's a little bit harder to believe that something won't happen. But it's what it's basically what will it be? You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, something's gonna happen. I feel like we heard from Ian Rappaport, that the thought of it just being a fine is really no more and I think we on the outside of all just assume that yeah it's definitely going to be a suspension how many and then it'll be Sue's job I guess to give the recommendation to Roger Goodell who then can do whatever the hell he wants let's talk about another Cleveland Brown situation that has happened right it feels like Cleveland's part of all this Odell Beckham Sr. puts out a video about Odell Beckham Jr. getting fucked over in cleveland we're going back to odell we're going back to obj you know have to have to he gets he so he's out

of cleveland he goes to the rams immediately becomes a superstar again immediately wins the super bowl would have won the mvp maybe he stays healthy and healthy during the super oh i feel that's no question yes i feel he was on his way. The way he was balling out in the first half, to me, it was no question. But go ahead. Concur completely. So now he's a free agent. He's coming back from a surgery. He's obviously healing faster than anybody else because he's Odell Beckham Jr.

We've heard about him going to McVay's wedding, crashing it, not being invited. We've heard Miles Garrett say, pick up the phone, slime, go back to Cleveland. What is the market for OBJ? And you tweeted 7 million. Ain't going to cut it. I ain't getting it done.

Hashtag allegedly. Now, I mean, I might've had a few conversations. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Allegedly. But what is the market right now for OBJ? It has to be everybody wants them or is everybody expecting him not to play for half a season? So they're a little bit gun shy. Well, let's just make this clear.

And I'm not OBJ's agent, right? But if I were and if I were OBJ and teams are trying to figure out what's happening with my ACL, what I'm doing, where I want to go, all I'm doing is taking out the tape of the first half of the Super Bowl, playing that, and then hanging up. And some people, I mean, and to me, and AJ, you tell me what you think. If you see what contribution OBJ made in the Super Bowl, is that not worth, I'm asking you,

is that not worth $10 million plus, just that? If you're in the postseason, what does that worth to you all? Yeah, if he can continue, like if he can do what he did, yeah, absolutely. And he proves that he's back at 100%. But what do you think his potential deal may look like? Could it be a multi-year deal? Like what could it average? It's going to be incentive-based, isn't it, Josie?

Don't you think every team – I mean, that makes sense. Go ahead. Go ahead, Pat. No, I was about to say, don't you think every team is going to want it to be incentive-based just because of the injury in the Super Bowl? They're going to want high upside, and then he'll just have to go out there and prove it.

And will OBJ think that's disrespectful? Well, I can see how that makes sense, right, to include the incentives. But when you get down to the time around maybe when we're expecting that ACL to be healed, whether it be November or December, okay, everything is popping. Postseason is, you know, coming on, and we have some attrition happening. now we've got a few teams that

might need a wide receiver it's the same thing like with the Deshaun situation people might feel like the five-year 230 is not fair but when you have competition for your services is about what people are willing to pay so we can talk about what we think the market is until we get there and he's healed and we have some attrition happening. Then it is what it is. I mean, me personally, like I said, I'm playing the tape. I'm turning off the phone. Y'all call me back and figuring out because if you're trying to get this ring ring by the way, or Richie already has, then you tell me what you think that's worth. You see what I'm saying? And let me tell you, OK, I know Pat knows how to negotiate.

that's work you see what i'm saying and and let me tell you okay i know pat knows how to negotiate i know pat knows how to negotiate so pat you know about just letting people know what time it is okay and then and then letting them come back and letting you know but if the raiders if the ravens if the packers if the rams whoever are all calling then we can get that number up so are those the people that are calling you think in your mind? Or is it all the teams that need wide receivers you think are in the OBJ business? He's just not ready to make a decision yet? I think that this is fair to say because OBJ put it on his own Twitter. I think it's fair to wonder if that amount is meeting OBJ's expectations.

One, because he's still a free agent. Two, because they brought on Allen Robinson and three because he intimated it to a certain degree on his own Twitter page as I try to remain safe there right so I think that that kind of I think that kind of lets you know you know what may or may not be the case now I will say this I was at Super Bowl I was in the tunnel right after the game when he was sitting on the cart. I saw Lesney come over, gave him a dab, gave him a hug, whispered in his ear. And I felt like I saw this is per my observation, you know, less reassuring OBJ that he was going to be taking care of whatever that meant.

Now, obviously, nothing is signed yet, but OBJ still has is what June. He still has a while to go in terms of healing that acl showing that to the teams and if i'm him i'm not trying to sign that anyways i'm gonna let stuff bubble up percolate and then let everybody call me come to the courts obj i mean i'm just i'm just saying you know but i gotta i got a question question for you come on if you're baker mayfield and i think this is one of the topics that we haven't talked about already because I was having a conversation about this with lead sources out there, and I'm curious what you guys think on the show.

If you're Baker Mayfield and you know that you have $18.85, whatever it is, $8 million coming to you guaranteed off of this option, but the Browns are sitting on you because they're like, we're paying you anyway. Let's say a team like the Panthers are like, well, we want the Browns to pay this ratio. Do you accept a pay cut or some side of restructure to lessen the cap, you know, whatever hurt for this year in order to make sure that you get it going? Or do you risk possibly having to sit out a year or better yet you know coming back to uh the browns because i'll tell you this before you just answer per what my understanding is people understand that there's a perception out there on on baker okay and if he sits out and holding his ball in the sandbox that it could look like that even more and that's the

leverage point. So I'm asking you, what do you do? Yeah. So if you know, you got to think about Baker's confidence in himself. So if I'm Baker and I'm incredibly confident, I know that this next year's money isn't going to be my wealth money. My wealth money is going to come from the deal that I play afterwards. So would I ever tell somebody to say, no, you don't, you're going to get 18

and a half million guaranteed regardless. Do you want to renegotiate down would be terrible business. But if he thinks he's a guy and that's going to be the only way to give him a starting option somewhere, you could see how maybe he would negotiate that. But there's nobody that's going to let him do that, Josie. And nobody's going to let him take less than 18 and a half million, which he's already guaranteed. Don't you think? Well, I definitely wouldn't do it. But the other fact, no, I know because I want, you know, I want all my money. Everybody does. Everybody wants all their money, right?

But the other factor here is playability. When are you playing? And does that hurt him to sit? Or, and, you know, because here's the other thing I understand like as far as the Browns situation if we're paying you we're gonna get something out of you okay people keep talking oh you're not gonna play for the Browns I'm listen to your girl if they're gonna pay if that if they're gonna pay Baker Mayfield you're not to just sit at home and not get nothing out of it. So what I'm saying is, if it were me, yes, I want my money.

But if it affects me playing, and we got to go on the tape from last year, and I'm not playing, how does that impact my market? Do you think it impacts teams wanting him next year, Pat? Yeah, I understand what you're saying. I understand completely what you're saying. Yeah, there's a lot of – the Baker Mayfield situation has become quite a pretzel too because we saw clips, the OBS thing, right? Odell Beckham Sr. putting that clip out.

And then nobody – hey, nobody really fighting it, by the way. Yeah. Nobody really fought – like nobody in the locker room was like, yeah, he's lying or anything like that. And then there's clips of Baker walking down the sideline after something bad happened and nobody talks to him. Not even like the kicker or the punter gives the starting quarterback like uh hey it's all right so something had to have gone completely toxic there and in the nfl once you're labeled somebody that's either toxic or distraction that shit is with you

forever like literally forever so if i'm baker i think i'm trying to play and get that taste out of people's mouth as soon as possible, to your point. Even if that involves taking a pay cut? Yeah, I'm not doing that, but Baker can. Ty, your question for Josina? Josina, you've been an established insider for several years now. I'm curious, like when you first became a reporter, was that always the goal? Was, hey, I want to be an nfl insider and also like

was there ever a moment that kind of solidified like oh shit i actually am an insider like because we know how connected you are with so many people so that's a really great question first of all i was an nba insider before i was an nfl but that's going way way back i'm not about to age myself and i know none of you gentlemen about to ask my age no that was like five years ago remember remember y'all got women in your life thank thank you to god okay so the answer to your question is when i used to work in denver for fox i got a tip on ricky williams being out for the year when he was the running back for the Dolphins but at the time I was working for Fox in Denver and back in that era you know it was kind of out of

the realm to report on a market that wasn't sure so initially the station and I feel like I can talk about I don't work there now we're all good yeah they didn't they didn't they didn't they didn't want that story initially and then we had to call Dan Levitard and and you know because he was uh in Miami at the time working for the Herald my sports director asked him and said you know I got this girl she's saying there's no no about this story and thanks to Levitard he wrote about it gave me credit and then they ESPN ended up putting me on on cold pizza this was a long time ago obviously no no you said it not us and that's and that's what started it so i was like oh y'all kind of

like this uh nfl insider thing so let me keep going and then i think after that it was larry johnson's foot injury keeping him out of the chiefs for the whole year herm edwards was the coach at that time people were trying to deny it and play it off like she got it wrong. Who is this little chick in Denver talking about she knows this stuff and she don't know nothing about Denver. That ended up being true. So then it just stacked from there. So that's basically how I got started.

That's what it was. That's awesome. Do you ever sit back and say, man, I got myself in way too deep. I wish I wasn't an insider anymore because it's such a – it seems like it's 24 7 you are on call at all times well let me tell you i mean you know the way adam schaffer and them go about it as far as being on call all the time i mean you know i gotta leave time fat nose is for my dog my hair my nails all that other stuff i'm not quite 24 7 i'm more like 20 you

know whatever but uh but yeah i mean it's definitely a lot of commitment. I would say that before, like when I was in Denver, you would have a lot of anxiety about when you first did like major, major stories. I mean, I've done like star caps and things, you know, all these types of major things. But now you develop and make sure that's nothing coming on my phone. You make sure that there is, right? I am expecting the 24-7 right but but but what I'm saying is now you don't have as much anxiety because you develop this repertoire of filters in terms of you know deciding if someone's credible if

you're gonna put something out you know you know what your relationships are so it's a network but But I will tell you, it doesn't happen overnight. You can't just parachute into it. So there you go. A lot of years, a lot of hard work. We appreciate you for the NFL. What are your sources telling you about Lamar and Kyler? So Lamar Jackson, obviously, it is his choice not to renegotiate with the Baltimore Ravens entering the last year of his rookie deal. He can still get franchise tag twice twice so that'd be three years with like 110 or 115 million dollars basically in guarantees then he'd be able to hit the market if they chose to franchise tag him twice

and who knows what the guarantees will be three years from now is he betting on himself or is there a little bit of beef there in the future and what do you expect to happen from that situation and then how much does the Kyler situation affect all the other quarterback conversations currently potentially happening? So, as I told y'all before, I keep things relatively simple. I just want to say what I would do real quick. If I'm Lamar, I just put Deshaun Watson's contract on the table and say, do about 10 more million in this, five more million in this, and we're good.

And then we could just sign. So that's just what I would do keep it simple okay but it's lamar when he recently came back to mandatory camp i believe he did say that he was you know talking to uh dacosta there in baltimore having conversations that he wanted to be able to have his respite uh you know away from the team and just concentrate on on getting ready He had let people know behind the scenes that he was going to show up. So, and John Harbaugh, the head coach and the team, I was down there at the league meetings in West Palm Beach where they were continuously telling the media that, you know,

they are ready to engage. So from everything that you obviously heard on the record is that Baltimore has been willing. We'll see if something can get done. I believe that it's in Lamar's best interest to go ahead and knock it out, not necessarily try to go the Kirk Cousins route or what have you, just to protect yourself. But I don't have those specifics, you know, and I would say that Lamar is very, very good. And trust me, we dialogue, but it's off the record is very, very, very small, you know, and I respect

his privacy. I think that he just has his way that he wants to get this done. I think the agents around the league know that that have tried to, you know, represent him, reporters who have tried to get at him, or what have you, you just got to respect that process. And eventually it will trickle out. But I do think it makes sense for him to secure the multi year contract extension and not play around with any injury or what have you. It worked out for Kirk because he didn't get no major injury, but you can't assure that that will happen for you, Lamar. So if it's me, I would just go ahead and knock it out.

240 million, maybe. Yeah. I mean, I'm just saying, yeah, because I mean, you can, you can go ahead and put your reasons out for that. You want to talk about, you know, the situation in Cleveland. You want to talk about inflation. You want to talk about where you see the cap going. You want to do the franchise tag averages on the years coming up.

There's all types of reasons why you could, you could start there. But yes, I basically would just put Deshaun Watson's contract down and say, go ahead and increase on this, hang up and then call me back. So what do you think about Kyler Murray then? Kyler Murray's allegedly that deal is about to get done here in the next two months. Steve Keim came on the show. He chatted about the timing of the schedule, when those conversations normally take place, as opposed to draft prep Eric Burkhardt, who put the tweet out about Kyler's deal needs to get done before the draft or whatever. Do you see that finishing? What do you think the numbers are going to be for that? Because obviously Kyler has had success. He hasn't won an MVP like Lamar has. I don't think they've won a playoff game since he's got there.

So what do you think that's going to be, and how does that deal get done, Josina? Well, I think the fact that you've seen the tone change relative to when I was reporting about it back at Super Bowl where there are things missing off social media, there are statements coming or what have you. The fact that you've seen the tone change, you said you had the general manager, Steve Kime on your show, that lets you know that there's some sort of amicability there that has at least improved

with regards to at least talking about it. The other thing when it comes to quarterbacks, I always say is just like if you got a girlfriend, right? If you want to move on to another girl, that's good. But is she looking better or worse than what you already got? You always got to secure and make sure that if you if you're not doing something with Kyler, and this I would tie it back around, who else would be your quarterback? It's always good to talk about what we what we're going to do what we're

not going to do. But what else is the option here? So I think the option is obviously to get it done. You don't want that type of distraction going into the season. I remember going back to the Jets, and this is not necessarily apples to apples, because obviously Fitzpatrick is not, to me, apples to apples to Kyler. But I'll bring this point up to say that when you allow things to linger after they were 10 and 6 with Fitzpatrick, I feel like not getting that done basically just ruined the Jets after that for Todd Bowles' tenure. I don't think you want to have the same thing kind of melt over into this team, especially with the pressure put on that, you know, organization relative to the amount of talent and the type of talent that they have on that team. So I think that it will get done. I think that the tone shows that they're

on track to get it done. And as far as the amount and stuff like that, I don't have a specific amount on that right now. I always like to say what I know, and I'd have to talk to a little bit more people behind the scenes before I truthfully give you a number on that. Hey, I respect it. I appreciate you stopping by. We will chit-chat with you soon.

Thank you for wearing the chain. Thank you for wearing the chain. You know, I'm coming through the BET Awards this Sunday. I might go. I think I'll just go ahead and get it on. Absolute style. Ladies and gentlemen, Justine Anderson. Thank you, Justine.

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Okay. If you aren't on Cash App yet, go use code McAfee for $15 as soon as you sign up. That's code McAfee for a free $15. Terms apply. Mad Dog's got to be in multiple Hall of Famers. Yeah, every Hall of Fame about voices and microphones, I assume he's in. Did he win the Heisman? What's that?

Of radio? Or no? I don't know. I think that was fake. What? What do you mean? What do you mean fake? What are you talking about?

What? Yeah. Looking back on it, it feels like it was one big marketing ploy. No. It was a crystal trophy. Yeah. Like the National Championship ball. With the guy Looking back on it, it feels like it was one big marketing ploy. No. It was a crystal trophy. Yeah. Like the national championship ball. With the guy's face on it.

But then they sold tickets to the thing. Yeah. And probably made that crystal ball ticket money back quickly. Francesa was there, though. That's true. Yeah, the Pope. Those guys don't care about that, though. They only care about being number one in the ratings at the fan.

He's still going strong, right? 29 years in a row. That's true. Is Francesa still broadcasting? He retired. He's got a podcast now. Oh, he does? Yeah, not on the Mike Zahn app, his own network, but he's got a podcast now.

I think with Bobby Valentine. Really? Yeah, for GM of the Mets. So he's not on his own platform anymore? I don't think so. People are on that platform, though? I don't believe so. Oh, the that platform, though. I don't believe so. Oh, the platform is done.

I think they kind of... Oh, moment of silence for Mike's on. He's still got his racehorse, though. What was it called? Mike's on? Mike's on. It's good, man. We're having a moment of silence for it right now.

Diggs. Ty, got anything to say about it? I think he's doing okay. Listen, I got a lot of money for the new podcast. Okay? A laughable amount of money. Mike's on was my introduction to the sports book. Yeah.

That was the first time I'd ever heard of him. Came and ended so damn quick. What a bummer. Moments past. Congrats, sports book. What a bummer. Moments past. Congrats, SportsPub. All right, boys, SportsPub. Thank you for your time. Let's answer some phone calls and get the fuck out of here.

Let's go to Ed in Pennsylvania. What's going on, Ed? All right, Ed. Hey, hello. Hey, Ed. What's going on, Ed? Give him like a half a second. How you doing?

Keep it moving. Atta baby, Ed. Atta baby. What part of Pennsylvania are you in? Harrisburg. Oh, okay. Yeah. Is that a town?

Close to Hershey. It's capital. It's capital. Yeah, it's like 20 minutes. I've never been, I don't think. It was nice. I stayed there. Did you?

What, for? Yeah, Hershey. Big 33. Harrisburg. Oh, nice. It was nice. Nice. Shout out to Harrisburg. All right, the capital. People get that wrong all the nice. It was nice. Nice. Shout out to Harrisburg.

All right. The Capitol. People get that wrong all the time. Capitol of Pennsylvania. Philadelphia. Nope. Pittsburgh. Nope.

Getty's. Altona. No. Harrisburg. What an answer. What other states have the stupid capitals? Illinois. New York.

Champaign, right? Springfield, I think. It is Springfield Yeah Home of Abraham Lincoln Alberta Hey there was a song That people were Taught

In elementary school About the states And the capitals We didn't have that At our school What's that all about No just fucking Use your brain

And memorize it There's a fucking Song for it That's a good answer Ohio's got a pretty Stupid capital Yeah it does Akron?

Nope. Columbus? Right in the heart. That feels like the right move then. I would have guessed Columbus because it is right in the middle of the state, but you calling it stupid made me go right to Akron. They finally got their eight-year construction done. It was actually very nice.

Straight through? Yeah. Normally you have to cut down a lane out of nowhere. Congrats Columbus. NIL deals deals construction wrap it up the capital of O-H I don't think construction ever wraps up he had the eye on that one what do you want to talk about Harrisburg native ed hey so shout out the PMS store I bought a couple shirts and a baby duke and i already got it and i ordered it a week ago so shout out the store hey shout out cfo phil over there at the store making things happen we appreciate them now uh we got an order to the office that was something that we don't even offer in the store after they ordered from the store but i mean that's gonna happen every once in the store after they order from the store. But, I mean, that's going to happen

every once in a while. Good to know it's operating at P Performance right now. That's right. Way to go. You said it was. Did I? Yeah, you said they got it cleaned up last week. Well, see if Phil was working in there cleaning it up and making it work and all that stuff. We got a

Velcro hat, though. Oh, yeah. What's that, AJ? Wait, you got a can you guys billy hey girl hat though that oh yeah oh yeah we could not sell that showed up what's that aj wait you got a hat from the website that you don't sell yeah yeah every once in a while we'll just do a cold order here at the office of the store just to see how the store is operating and i think it's gone one for seven maybe us sorting from the store say that might be why i'm so low on the store so it's great to hear ed in pennsylvania say no problem gone in less than a week that's great news there you go store there

you go my shirt said i ordered came in all like i got like five of them i believe they came in probably within a week let's go that's good news over there that is that's fantastic what were you gonna say about bill you wanted a question for uh i want to see if I might need to send Bill a few bucks. I think I'm about to open up my own site with a store selling baby belts. I think there's a big market for that, honestly. What the fuck would Bill do? What? Bill would set it up for me and do it all for me.

Oh, Bill does YouTube. That doesn't mean he just builds websites for... Bill can do anything. I concur. I concur. But right now, he is in a... He's coded. He's in a rhythm

he's already plugged all he's like a neural link like tom palacero right into youtube but if you need some uh what is it ix uh no uh i uh i do ix ix for your store i think we can make it up you are there it is of course graphic designers pal we got him hell yeah because i believe the baby belts are i mean these things are amazing. It's a nice one. Is that what GoDaddy.com is for? To create a website? Yeah. Yeah. Claim your website, isn't it? They give you an

engine to make it online. It's very limited what you can do, though. They give you the tools to be your own boss. Yes. Yes, they do. But also, buy the website, too. They do that for you, I think. The thing about the internet, though, is people just bought up all the names. So even if it's your own idea, you're going to have to buy that from somebody else. And GoDaddy helps negotiate that entire process, I do believe, as well.

Yeah, assholes are going to take advantage of a situation whenever they can. Patent for sure. I had somebody that took patmackfeed.com, and they were like, well, you can obviously make a deal. And I was like, nah, fuck you. Not going to do it. It'll be patmackfeeshow.com, I guess. See you later. See you later, pal.

Don't be holding it over my head. You thought you got me. You did not. Ain't that right? Does somebody else have patmackfee.com still? I think it's inactive, but yeah, somebody had it there for a bit. Somebody that I know bought it from the person who had it though and was trying to get it to me and i was stubborn

i was like nah don't want it too late sorry about it wait were they trying to give it to you uh yeah but it was going to be a whole thing you know and i didn't want to do the whole thing so reimburse person for it and then we just i think we just kept it it's just sat there yeah it worked out that person who stole it from the beginning still alive i don't want them to see you know what i mean i don't want them to think that i don't want them to benefit off anything we've ever done fair yeah no point which takes me back to antslant let's go to the phones let's go to rj in wyoming rj what's going on the Cowboys up there Roman wild yes sir go pokes go pokes go pokes just want to let you know not a question just kind of telling a little story yesterday I took the nephew to um what is it summer summer stunner in Billings up in Montana and that

in Billings up in Montana. Summer, summer. And that bum looking, he walked out of the arena, walked into the ring. I was like, all right, he was this guy. He looks really familiar. Looking at him,

and it was Austin Theory. I was like, oh, I recognize the face, all right. So I got my buddy and his kid and then my nephew, and we all started chanting, Pat McAfee owns you. Oh, nice. And I even got it up on my phone, his kid and then my nephew, and we all started chanting, Pat McAfee owns you. Oh, nice.

And I even got it up on my phone, put it on my little Snapchat, got the letters big, raised it up to him. I don't want to be that guy that's like, oh, he saw me in the crowd. But I definitely think he saw the sign. Yeah. And I just thought it was really cool, and I just wanted to let you know. Hey, I appreciate you and the boys over there, RJ. Hell yeah. Letting him know he's a piece of shit. Yeah. Piece of trash.

He's a United States champion, though, so. He is. Let's make sure we respect him. Still. Oh, yeah. What do you mean still? He's only getting better and better. His arms are only getting bigger, too.

Bigger and bigger. See what happens tonight, though. Lost the flex, huh? Tonight. Hey, Elias is back tonight. With Ezekiel? Yeah. Bingo.

Ezekiel's a little brother. We don't know. Together. That should be awesome. Yeah. we don't know together that should be awesome yeah we don't know if they're together we don't hopefully why wouldn't they be though it should be I don't know look they're together here well that's a photo yeah yeah so that's like promoting hey these guys tag team let's do it concert of a lifetime let's go oh thank god think about wwe stands for that first walk with elias yeah he's gonna be so loud yeah oh my it's gonna be great to have elias back isn't it aj it is so raw is on usa smackdown is on fox correct interesting how they work all that out. And premium live events are on Peacock. Yeah.

Yeah, it's nuts. USA, obviously, owned by the Peacock folks, though. So that's much more aligned than Fox, which is Friday Night Smackdown only. You know what I mean, AJ? Yeah, man. I'm curious to see how this goes tonight on 8, 7 Central on USA Network. How are they going to work this out if both brothers are in the ring together? If they play a concert together, maybe they fight each other.

I don't know. Yeah, we don't know. It's Monday Night Raw, 8-7 Central on USA Network, AJ, isn't it? Just did an ad read for Monday Night Raw. Unreal. That's awesome. Alright, let's get out of here. Hammered Bob backward back. What's that? He can still go.

Don goes killing it, by the way. Absolutely. Always will. I think I retired him. What do you mean? I think me... Dongo retires when he wants to retire. Alright. Absolutely fair. I did see

him. He was wrestling, I believe, last weekend or two weekends ago. I mean, when is he not? Yeah, I agree. Dongo's always going, isn't he? I mean, I heard he already made half a bill flipping houses. Damn. That's a contractor like Jesus Christ. Beast. Better than Jesus Christ, though.

Wow. What? Yeah. As a contractor. Have you heard of anything that Jesus Christ created in the contracting world? No. Actually, no. You don't have like a Jesus Christ shelf? No. Jesus Christ created in the contracting world? No. Actually, no. You don't have like a Jesus Christ shelf? No. A Jesus Christ anything? No. He was a carpenter.

Yeah, he built stuff. Christmas tree? What do you think a carpenter is? I honestly don't know. Oh my! What's the difference between a carpenter and a contractor then? Congrats, Foxy.

You just moved up the blue-collar rankings in the office. What? All right, we're out of here. Hammered Down will be on in 10, 15 minutes at youtube.com forward slash hammered down. You thought he, like, did carpet? Yeah, he was laying rug. There's an N in there. There's an N in there.

Oh, okay. You thought Jesus was doing carpet? Yeah, back in the day, they had it. Laying those cogs on his knees in Bethlehem. Striking corners. Fucking flying in the air. Yeah, common misconception. Yeah, it is.

Jesus is down there pulling a clip. Fucking get in there. Get these seams right. Joe showing them the way. Rolling. That's right. That's what he did. Yeah.

All right. There's nothing better for this show. Sorry, Tyler in Kansas and Garrett Wilson and Saskatoon, Canada, actually. Hey, Saskatoon.

Saskatoon. Garrett Wilson and Saskatoon. What's going on, Paul? Yo, what up? Thanks for having me on the show, guys. Hey, no problem here.

Thanks for calling in, you know. Just wanted, yeah, oh, you know, just wanted a little feel-good moment here, man. Been a Jets fan for 15 years. They fucking, yeah, oh, you know, just wanted a little feel-good moment here, man. Been a Jets fan

for 15 years. They fucking, they drafted Garrett Wilson this year. Come on. Dreams come true, boys. Super Bowl.

Hey, that's good news. He had no idea about the, Super Bowl. No worries, right? Yeah, he didn't know about

the rookie dinner. Little, little, Jets fucking ball. Oh, man, that rookie dinner, ooh.

Oh, man, add me to the list, boys. Come on. Hey, let's go, boys.

Hey, his name's Garrett Wilson. Drafted a Garrett Wilson. Ah, man. Add me to the list, boys. Come on. Hey, let's go, boys. Hey. His name's Garrett Wilson. Drafted a Garrett Wilson. Oh, man. Sweet. I thought he was pumped. Yeah, it seemed like that. He missed that whenever he was delivering his line,

but I think he was just assuming that we would obviously put that together. And we did. That a boy. Hey, thank you for the call, Garrett. Thanks, Garrett. Bet you roped your dinner in the CFLs a was a couple of loonies and toonies. Yeah. How about the USFL?

Wow. I seen a punt this weekend from a guy named Brock Miller. Okay. Won 75 yards or 85 yards. Yeah, it was a bomb. Out of the end zone. Back of the end zone. 85.

Bomb. Yeah. Absolutely murdered. I think playoffs start next week, maybe. No, this is the last weekend. Yeah, then they go playoffs. They're doing playoffs? I thought it was around Robin the entire season.

Yeah, and then they go to Canton, I believe, for the playoffs. I could be wrong. I could be wrong. Michael Cole read on Friday night, the last weekend of the USFL, and I said, already? No. Yeah, because, you know, it is a Fox product, so I don't want to bury it. But Brock Miller stole the weekend with a fucking bomb. How you doing?

Keep it moving. There's 24 people live that saw it, but I think a couple hundred thousand people saw it on the internet, and that's good. Hopefully some of these guys get an opportunity to get a job, right? That's the whole goal of this spring league? Yeah, hopefully some of them – well, some of them definitely will get into a camp. Yeah, hopefully some of them make the team and actually make an impact,

and then we can talk about, oh, hey, this dude was just in the USFL a couple months ago. How many guys are of the XFL? That would be a number. Heineke? Te'amu? Yeah, but like number-wise. Is it like four?

Is it like 10? Is it 15? Yeah, that's way back. Talking about the most recent XFL. The most recent one. How many games did they play? Less than 10. Four?

Five? Yeah, very few. And then COVID hit the nacho stand in Seattle Dragons. That's right. It was How many games did they play? Less than 10. Four? Five? Yeah, very few. And then COVID hit the notch at a stand in Seattle Dragons. That's right. It was only quarterbacks, right? It was just those four. No, because there was that one DB from West Virginia. I think he.

Heading into the final weekend of the regular season, there were 15 players who played in the XFL in 2020 that were on active NFL roster. Wow. Okay, 15. That's awesome. Three more on injury reserve. 18. There you go. 18 more on injury reserve. 18.

There we go. 18. There we go. 18 out of the whole league. The XFL had a lot more success than the USFL did, I believe. So maybe another 15, 20 guys get an opportunity to live their NFL dreams and life and continue to play football for a profession. So maybe USFL doing good stuff. Yeah, USFL.

You got it, AJ. Doing great stuff. Hey, more football is always stuff. That's right, AJ. Doing great stuff. Hey, more football is always good, I think. Hell yeah. I'm not saying I've watched any, but I'm just saying more football is good. Concur. It's better than watching nothing. Boom. And when there's nothing else on TV, USFL's on, we'll watch because the sport of football

is so damn good. So thank you for your service in the heat of Birmingham, Alabama, playing all the footballs so that maybe one day you could get into the NFL and we can't wait for the playoffs in Canton, Ohio. Hell yeah. That's when they start. Let's go. Everybody in Ohio.

Ohio will show up for the Birmingham Boilers, right? Oh, yeah. No question. Yeah, they'll be there. What's its seat? 80,000? Canton's like 30, I think, isn't it, actually? It's high school. Yeah, they play high school there. It I think, isn't it, actually? It's high school.

Yeah, they play high school there. It's like, yeah, 34. Are you being facetious? What? That 80,000. Boston Stadium? It's a high school stadium. No, but that 80,000 comment, what was that?

Oh, no. I mean, yeah, what is it, 30? Okay. Are you going? When is it again? June 25th. June 25th. Oh, that's coming up.

That's right around the corner. Right around the corner. Need 23,000 people to go watch that. That's how many seats are in Canton. Just found out through the ear. Huh? General Bob might be going. Maybe I'll hit your ride.

That guy's boozing every weekend. Yeah. He is everywhere. I've never seen him. How old is he? 41? He's 38. He'll be 39 soon.

38, completely yokeded like four percent body fat boozing every weekend yeah he is an anomaly that guy he's unbelievable i'm living vicariously through him some of these days no bob is he is awesome i i saw bob a few days ago yeah he's the man yeah he's probably that was probably day three of him going he is a non-stop his engine and competitive stamina when it comes to good times is untouchable i believe aj he is he actually real quick before i know we're getting out of here i actually have to i gotta take off i'm not gonna be here tomorrow but uh bob kills me we were we met him up we met him for a quick dinner basically and before bob had some weird like order some

specialty drink that they have on the menu. Oh, I've got to try this, of course. And then a guy comes back. Oh, do you want another one? He's like, give me a Sauvignon Blanc. And he orders that. I was like, what? What are you doing, Bob?

And then he just goes through the different kinds. I'm like, what's next? Pinot Noir, and then you're going to go to Bailey? Like, he has no – he doesn't care about anything. He wants to mix all of those booze together in his stomach and feel great about it. I don't know how he doesn't get terrible hangovers and how his hangovers

haven't stopped him from continuing to drink but I think his perseverance is one that all of us say good on you Bob. Thank you General. Good on you Bob. Hammerdowns in 10-15 minutes. We'll be back tomorrow with a much better show. The guest tomorrow. a much better show the guests tomorrow

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