The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 691 -Feel Good Thursday with Ice Cube, Quentin Richardson, Jordan Schultz & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: June 23, 2022

On today’s show Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys talk about Ty Schmit starting his journey into fatherhood, Arch Manning’s commitment, Seahawks in talks with Baker Mayfield, DeAndre Hopkins speaking out... about his PED suspension, and everything else going on in the sports world while fighting against the studio’s power outages. Joining the progrum in the first hour is the rapper, actor, producer legend, member of Mount Westormore, and founder of Big3, Ice Cube, to chat about his busy work schedule, his creativity, and his new projects until being interrupted by a power outage (0:21:03.153-0:28:46.136). Later in hour two, former 1st Round Draft pick, 13-year NBA veteran, Three-Point Shootout champion in 2005, host of Knuckleheads podcast, and Big3 Season 2 Champion, Quentin Richardson, chats with Pat, AJ, and the boys about the NBA Draft, what he thinks will happen, and past draft picks that stood out(0:55:53.469-1:13:42.367). In hour three, NFL Insider, Pull Up Pod with CJ McCollum, host of Game Day NFL and The Boardroom, and @Schultz_Report on Twitter, Jordan Schultz, comes on the show to chat with the boys about Gronk’s retirement he put out earlier this week, Starbucks and his connections, the Baker Mayfield situation and more (1:13:47.057-1:37:06.456). To end the show and wish everyone a wonderful weekend we had a stop in from our pal of the pals, Gumpy to chat with us about the soccer Lombardi world. Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show and listen on Sirius XM Channel 82, Mad Dog Radio. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, beautiful people. It is Thursday, June 23rd, 2022, and this sports show that is going to be an average year starts now. No, no, no, no. I try to step all over it. I cannot hear my voice at all in my ears, I'm realizing. I can't hear anything from the back. We had a power outage. All hell is breaking loose. But what I do know is that today's show is going to be a big one. Hell yeah. Because not only do we have Stanley Cup championship action to react to, because last night's game went into overtime, and a team with too many men on the ice.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Whoa. A team that can't get a simple line change in the biggest of moments, and just so happened to win their third game of a best of seven in a Stanley Cup championship series. It was an excellent hockey game, honestly. Oh, yeah. And although the ice kind of garbage in the words of the goal scorer, the winning goal scorer, I think the NHL has to be happy with how this is going.
Starting point is 00:01:05 Yeah. Oh, yeah. Two out of the four games have made it into overtime thus far. Last night showcased so much dazzle and so much majestic hockey play that it also brought into another factor that I think we all assumed could happen in hockey but was actually being alleged to be happening in hockey. And that is just like the Chicago Bears at Soldier Field grow that grass real tall to make people slow. Sure.
Starting point is 00:01:31 And just like how Heinz Field will never have turf because that grass is to slow people down, when you come play in Pittsburgh, it's going to be a sloppy track. Allegedly, last night, the entire world is alluding to the fact that although Tampa Bay is probably 200 degrees right now. Yeah, at least. 150% humidity.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Roasty toasty. We lived down there for like six months, like one day a week. Literally for six months straight. And it was landing, you landed in a sauna in the middle of summer. So maybe it's just the weather. I mean, the air conditioning at my house can't keep up with this Indiana heat that I have. So maybe it's just the weather down there getting to the ice.
Starting point is 00:02:10 But it felt like a lot of people were alleging to the fact that the Tampa Bay Lightning wanted that to be a muddy track to slow down that avalanche team, which leads me to think that maybe the boys are fucked when it gets back to Denver. If they can't slow them down and they're going to lose. But I got nothing but faith in the Tampa Bay Lightning, not only because big rigs flying around, searching his fourth straight lordo, but because Vasilevsky was standing on his fucking head last night.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Doing everything. And that means good news is coming for the Tampa Bay Lightning. Let's go to the toxic table today that looks vastly different than what it normally looks like. At Boston, Connor is here with an incredible mullet. How are we doing? You look fantastic. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:02:52 You look great too. Nice chains. I can hear myself in my ear now, Zeet. So whatever you did, you did something that is... That's right, Zeet. That is good. That is good news. There is a...
Starting point is 00:03:01 That's tough to do, by the way. Yeah. I felt like a national anthem singer in a stadium right there. Sure. I could not hear what I was saying. No bueno. Or I couldn't hear what.
Starting point is 00:03:10 You want to test that thing, Zeke? It's not working. Oh, I thought we were back. Can't talk to the back, but I can't hear me, which is good. Okay, step in the right direction. Halfway there. I was kind of there. Thunderdome is just 40-something days away.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Here we go. Can't wait for that. Thank you for the compliment. We are going into a threesome days away. Here we go. Can't wait for that. Thank you for the compliment. We are going into a three-day weekend. Here we go. But I think it couldn't come at a better time because this is no offense to our friend Nick Moraldi. But if you look at the toxic table,
Starting point is 00:03:35 there is obviously one very different-looking individual there. That person that's sitting at the toxic table is normally behind the audio, kind of configuring how loud, how soft, how muted we are at different times. That is kind of a role that he has bought into greatly. But today he has to try to fill the skates of a champion who has saddled the horse of toxicity for some time on a microphone. Because today is a day, I believe, in which the baby adventure will begin for Ty. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Here we go. Come on, Ty. So Ty is currently with his lovely wife. I believe they are awaiting the baby to come any moment now. And I just want to say to Ty that we are incredibly pumped for you and Caitlin. We're incredibly pumped for you and Caitlin. Every single resource that this office has the ability to get, you have for your beautiful baby that is coming.
Starting point is 00:04:32 I think you're prepared. I think you're going to be a great dad. And we are going to miss you for the next few weeks as the paternal love for that baby is shown through on the minute-to-minute basis because I've heard these little drunk things have a mind of their own. But, Ty, we will certainly miss you, pal, and congrats and good luck. Good luck, Ty. In his place, Nick Moraldo. Nick, great to see you.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Hey, happy to be out here. Going to do my best, knock the cement out of my skates to fill Ty's shoes. I know I can't beat Ty. I'm just going to be me out here, though. Yeah, because if you're trying to beat Ty, you'd be trying to beat somebody else other than yourself.
Starting point is 00:05:08 And if you're not yourself, who are you? You're fucking nobody. Exactly. Fraud. And that's what people need. You're not nobody. You're currently a member
Starting point is 00:05:15 of the toxic table. That's not what everybody says, but I'm okay with that. Nobody's saying you're a nobody. Now you're a country club. Come on. That place is gorgeous. Hey, thanks for coming out yesterday, boys.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Pretty good round. I think Pat is going to rip up Tahoe and surprise some people. Some of those real gaffers out there are going to be in for quite a shot. We chatted about this a little bit on the course. I think the last few weeks I have made an effort to play at least once a week. So I was trying to have at least four or five rounds in before I got to Tahoe. Now with Country Club Nick having access to maybe the nicest course in Indiana and us having time to get on, this has become quite a treat.
Starting point is 00:05:51 I might be able to get on more than four or five times. But we talked about this yesterday. These guys that are retired and their entire lives revolve around their golf game. Just golf. And they're waking up in the morning and they're on the putting green and then they're on the driving range and then they're having lunch, then they're watching film, then they're watching film, then they're playing around, then they're finishing on the putting green.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Only motivation to live. That's what every day of their life is this. This is it. I was away from my family for like 15 years whenever I was playing my sport, and now I'm supposed to just drop back in at being around them every day. I can't do it. And also this kind of scratches the competitive itch that people have. The game is
Starting point is 00:06:25 you're never going to be perfect, so there's always something to get better at. And a lot of guys that are ultra competitive and obsessive over that have turned to golf. And a lot of these guys are golfing in the Tahoe thing. If I beat any of them, which there is a chance, I think,
Starting point is 00:06:41 at this point, that's going to be something that they will take with them into the driving range, into the putting green, into their rounds, literally for the next 362 days or whatever. And that's the goal. I'm trying to go in there and beat one of the retired guys that plays every single fucking day of their life. I don't know if it's going to be possible.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Golf is a tough game because I'll find myself in a situation that I have no idea what the right answer is. I've never attempted this shot before. I'm sitting downhill sideways in some heather. Okay, the golf fix told me middle of the night while I was watching, kind of boozed up and high. Here we go. This is going to turn to the left, I think, so I've got to aim a little right.
Starting point is 00:07:16 I think I need to choke down. The amount of that things that are going to be running through my head while I'm golfing out there is going to be astronomical, and I'm going to have some bad shots, but I think I'm going to'm golfing out there is going to be astronomical. And I'm going to look like I'm going to have some bad shots. But I think I'm going to play pretty good out there. Now, we have to remember that the man who joins us in the second hour most days when he's not on vacation, which has become something. Yeah, every other week.
Starting point is 00:07:35 I mean, I think we are the only Stooges that don't, though, in the middle of summer for working people. I think people with jobs take summer away. Or chompy in the game. Yeah, stewards. Stewards in the game. What are we supposed to do? If not us, then who? Exactly. We're back if not austin hill i think exactly we're back let's go jeez we're back wow that was some
Starting point is 00:07:51 of the you know it will never compare uh so i don't want to act like that but you know that video where there's like a baby who's like deaf or something sure yeah implants on it and the first time hearing and it's like maybe the most like emotional stuff all the time you're like so happy yeah what an incredible reference thank you that is kind of what my brain just felt whenever you heard you know i could hear me again because i was dipping in and out and i couldn't really hear anything i was just talking that was unbelievable thank you Z was on his hands and knees on the phone getting this thing figured out who'd you call who'd you have to call I should I call the people who helped set it up sound guys I'm happy to answer they're not doing
Starting point is 00:08:35 anything on Thursday June 23rd that is great news that's uh what now is it big Mike is that big Mike? Jake. Big Jake. Why did it happen? Did Jake tell us why it happened so it won't happen in the future? No, it just something might have been the power outage. Messed it up. Set it back to factory mode. Yes, we had to reprogram it.
Starting point is 00:08:55 That fucking kills us, dude. Hey, that kills us. Because there's literally nothing you can do because when the power cuts to it immediately, it shuts off. And some of them just reset back to factory mode immediately. Yeah, exactly. And we're promised this is buildings on generators too and it obviously isn't. Yeah, it's a stupid goddamn lover that anybody can pull around the corner.
Starting point is 00:09:14 That's the real problem. And we're supposed to have generators though, but the generators also do not. No. They don't work. They don't kick in for a certain amount of time and by that time, that thing's already... Yeah, already reset. already reset we're fucked forever whatever we're back thank you Zito
Starting point is 00:09:30 yeah we will have the power thing on much better protected yeah lock and key it's or maybe it's not even put up there you know it makes no sense to me. It is comical what it is.
Starting point is 00:09:48 We still have to be here for another month or so, so I don't want to pump this too loud. But it's a fucking cartoon outside on how you turn the building on and off. It's legit like Star Wars. They built something that you could shoot something in the Death Star and blow up the whole building. Well, I don't know about that reference. Why build that part? It's more like the original
Starting point is 00:10:08 Jurassic Park where to get the power to the park back on, they had to run from the command center to the other side of the park through a jungle filled with dinosaurs. It makes no sense. It is literally a switch that just you have to know where the part of the building is.
Starting point is 00:10:24 And it is a little bit difficult to get to that part of the building. But if you happen to get to that part of the building somehow, there's just a switch that's painted bright red. That is like this, this size, almost basically, but basically this size. And it would be impossible if you happen to get to that part of the building,
Starting point is 00:10:43 by the way, probably a little boozed up, probably lost. And if you saw a big red switch that was like this and said, like, don't touch, power to whole building, like 100% chance you're going to go,
Starting point is 00:10:55 huh? Try this. And then the whole building just, out. It's like, oh my God, that was actually how this was designed. It's really the Achilles heel of the building. There's numerous weaknesses.
Starting point is 00:11:07 I assume bums see that lever, too. You're right. And they're just like, oh, I got to pull that fucking thing right now. No way they would put this in the same world I live. You know? Oh, wait. They did. If that was me, like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:23 Let's say I'm at West Virginia. Sure. Having a good time. A young you let's say I'm at West Virginia. Sure. Having a good time. A young you. A young you. Penny Pitchers. Yeah, Penny Pitchers just happened. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:30 And they shut down, you know, every bathroom in the city at midnight. And Penny Pitchers runs till midnight. So, you know, you have to happen upon an alley or something every once in a while. Exactly. If I'm walking down that alley to go piss and hopefully read my roommate and good friend, a man that was in my wedding, he says he'll keep an eye out for me for that alley. He doesn't have to go piss in another alley, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:55 like while that's happening. You would hope. There's no cops coming down there saying, hey, what are you doing down there? You saw me walk out of Penny Pitchers. There's no bathrooms. You know exactly what I'm doing down here. But if I was happening to walk down that alley,
Starting point is 00:12:07 like the way this is set up, what? I don't know. 100% chance? Oh, yeah. Please do not pull this 10-foot-long lever. They make it appear as if you're launching a nuclear weapon. And you think to yourself, there's no way this is really how this building is doing it.
Starting point is 00:12:25 And then the person turning it back on has to have a key in it. Don't touch it, all right? It was made in the 1980s, probably. How does it happen? It doesn't make any sense. Because I know for a fact that sometimes when you go out back there, if you have to walk to the gas station or throw out the trash because Herbie's on vacation, that you'll see the door wide open right there and any bum can just walk in and it's next it's next to a dumpster
Starting point is 00:12:49 where they're all sleeping too well geez listen take it easy on the bums and dumpsters and everything like that indianapolis is a fascinating place right now and has been for a little bit but that is that seems to be a flaw of our building anyways follow-up flaw of our schedule in the incredible life that we get to live talking into a microphone so much all the time it is not easy just going on a golf course especially with all the other stuff going on but i feel like we're getting real working and aj and i what is that twenty five thousand dollars to the person and twenty five thousand to charity yeah that's a fifty thousand dollar thing happening out there at all he's been there before he's done the whole
Starting point is 00:13:23 golf in front of that many people who could potentially get sniped by a golf ball. Yeah. I mean, that is the biggest thing I'm thinking about. Yeah, but he stinks. You're actually good. Yeah, but I haven't been in a situation
Starting point is 00:13:33 where there's a funnel. Yeah, you get better there, though. Yeah, and you've never warmed up. I think I should, yeah. I got two questions, though. I think I should. At ton digs, one half of the hammer.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Not the golf. Yeah. You were talking about being in the heather and being on the slope, down the slope, left, right, whatever. First question, does it comfort you when you put your head down on your pillow at night knowing that you have an experienced caddie
Starting point is 00:13:51 that can give you these answers? Well, Conor, I don't think I'm going to be able to answer. No, I've been there. Walked the course 18,000 times in my brain. Me too, but that doesn't help with shot selection. Yeah, but Francis, we met. We're locked in. We don't see anything but the hole. We don't see. Yeah, but Francis, we met. We're locked in. We don't see anything but the hole.
Starting point is 00:14:07 We don't see the fans on the side of the course. What he was talking about is when I'm on the side of a fucking hill like this and it's like what club should I use? The good news is Foxy will be tailing. Exactly. He's got you. And Foxy will be with us. As will Nick.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Nick will be there as well. I think we're going to be updating for every single. Oh, like the Tiger Tracker. Yeah, I think it's going to be like that with videos. And we found a tracer. We found a ball tracing app that is. That's a bit Mickey Mouse. Pretty Mickey Mouse.
Starting point is 00:14:37 What they're marketing as a golf tracing app. Let's get you a better one. Well, we're going to try. I don't know how much we're going to try. You should change your account to Pat Tracker for that week that week no but it's not just me though it'll be whoever's in my group people aren't gonna be happy about that do they care i don't think anyone on the internet cares about anyone else in your group i think we're also putting a free to play uh okay up for how i do here we go i think there's gonna be a shit ton of money. I've wanted to, how much is going to be up for that?
Starting point is 00:15:05 By the way, sitting in for Nikki skates on the audio with an incredible mustache right now. And also fresh out of an $8,000 hit last night on a parlay. Congrats, Bruce. Bruce, how much money we given away on that free to play?
Starting point is 00:15:20 Has that been discussed yet? Have we figured that out? I don't know if it's been nailed down. What are you thinking? $100? $200? Why? $250? Probably $250, right? Quarter of a million? Feels like that feels like
Starting point is 00:15:33 the right one. Should it be? That's tasty. Three rounds, $75 each day. Nope, that doesn't add up to $250. I think it has to be total. Oh, but maybe each day it could be two. Birdie on day it could be two it's like birdie on day one birdie day two birdie day three how many bogeys how many double bogeys how many different people like if you beat this person or that person like aj hawk for example i think i'm golfing with
Starting point is 00:15:57 him friday right that was from my understanding that's the day that you get paired with people you know yeah and then you get grouped Saturday and Sunday. And Thursday is a fucking nightmare. But, hey, we're out there learning. Exactly. We're just trying to get around and see where we're going to be. Anyways, AJ will join us in the next hour. He's got to be shaking in his fucking Ohio boots.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Yeah, he's going to suck. Every video that we're putting out there. I did not expect golf to happen the way it's been happening the last few times I've gone out there. I did not expect golf to happen the way it's been happening the last few times I've gone out there. I'm looking at where I want to hit the ball to, and I'm putting the ball there. Will that continue? We shall see. I honestly didn't expect you to play this much either.
Starting point is 00:16:35 I knew if you played this much, you'd be good. I'm starting to enjoy it. You know how much fun these fucking pro golfers have to have? When they go out to the course, and they're just looking, and they're like, oh, I'm going to do that. I've done it the last few times I've won out. It is a blast. What a treat.
Starting point is 00:16:49 What a treat. I would like to put – I should probably hit this a little bit further. It seems like the little bit of an upslope on a green for me. So, if I hit this a little bit past there, it should come out. Let me clear out the grooves. I mean, let me clear out these grooves real quick. That's your category response. He's supposed to have a wet towel
Starting point is 00:17:05 well he was also golfing but we did discuss the wet towel and the tools that we will have at the turn do you guys get fillets at the country club instead of hot dogs so we have not hit a turn yet oh because you've been playing nine holes but I assume fillets at Nick's country club there's 27 holes no big deal two turns so there's there's three nines could be two turns we've played on the same course every time and by the way when i was a member same course every time i don't think i've played the other 18 holes that they have there why is that you think we they why i think i think we like to run a little later than most people i think a lot of people are out there early and the other courses are the early tee times we get the we're running with the night
Starting point is 00:17:43 owls we're going late night and that's only the one nine, but I like that nine. I do. I love it. I fucking love golf. We have some breaking news in the college football world. Whoa. Ladies and gentlemen, the family that is synonymous with incredible quarterback play all the way from the new Orleans ain't which Archie changed the whole game.
Starting point is 00:18:06 Then Peyton and Eli. The Manning cast. The Manning family business. Everything about them is synonymous with great football play. And when we learned about this other Manning. Dog. Coming through the high school ranks. Archie Manning.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Son of Cooper Manning. Cooper Manning. Cooper Manning, the most athletic Manning, allegedly, by all of the Mannings that you speak to. Had some injuries and things happened, didn't make it to the NFL, was a wide receiver. Archie Manning, his son, has grown up in the Manning Football Academy. Yeah, that's right. Is more athletic than Peyton and Eli. Has been watching NFL film since middle school. Is dominant in seven-on-sevens and in high school.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Can run, can dunk, can move. Might be the best Manning ever. Yeah. Has been an official commitment for college. Wow. He is going to the University of Texas. Holy shit. Hook him more.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Hook them. Congrats to Texas and Sarkeesian for having another Mack Jones at quarterback. If you remember, Sark was running an NFL offense at Alabama when he was having all his success.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Obviously, post the other situations he had had in the past, it seems like he had gotten past them personally and professionally. Became offense coordinator for Alabama. They were running NFL plays, motions and reads and everything like that. Mack Jones was able to pick it up like this. Boom!
Starting point is 00:19:34 Dropped in the middle of nowhere, had the best season he's ever had. Now he's having success in the NFL because of the comfort that he's had running an NFL-style offense. Archie Manning has been an NFL quarterback since he was in seventh grade. Sark has to be super pumped. The people of Texas have to be pumped. I don't know what the NIL deal is worth. Obviously, the Mannings don't need it, but I assume it was something.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Congrats to all parties. That's not great for the Big 12 now or the SEC in the future. And this has to lead to a conversation of us saying, I would not put it past Texas to choose to join the SEC because the Manning family said, hey, it's different down here. If you want Archie, he ain't going to the fucking Big 12. No way. Archie's going to the SEC against the best, playing with the best.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Texas is like, fuck it. All right, we'll go to the SEC. We've been looking for a reason anyways. Oklahoma, Texas allegedly going next year. Cincinnati and other teams going to the Big 12. What does that mean for the Big 12? Who knows? Archie Manning, though, congrats to him and congrats to Texas. Burnt orange out there. I'm in Austin
Starting point is 00:20:42 tomorrow. I'm sure the place is going to be pumped. He'll be in the SEC, I believe, his sophomore year. And then this is a question. The number one recruit, Quinn Ewers, who went to Ohio State. Cool. And then transferred from Ohio State. Back to Texas. He'll probably just transfer tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Yeah, let's go to West Virginia, kid. Oh. Come home. Bring him in. Come on home. Joining us now is a man who has found home in the world of success in basically everything he's ever tried. Oh, yeah. Obviously, movies and music, not only acting, producing and writing and creating and everything you could potentially think of in the entertainment business. Moving into the world of sport, creating a new league in a new sport. Going into its fifth season just tipped off last week.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Damn. The big three is fucking crushing it. Oh, yeah. Five seasons of this thing? Nothing lasts five seasons. Great basketball. And that's because the person that was behind it has a big old brain. Ladies and gentlemen, Ice Cube.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Yeah! Ice Cube! Hey, what's up, y'all? Hey, sorry we kept you. How y'all doing? Hey, I appreciate you joining us. Archie Manning just signed with Texas. We had to cover it real quick.
Starting point is 00:21:46 That's breaking news. But anytime Ice Cube's on, we're fucking pumped, dude. Hell yeah. Hey, thanks for coming back. That's right. How are you? I'm good, man. You know, like you said, we're into our fifth season, and we're off and rolling.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Had a great week one, going into week two this weekend. How much are you hands-on with the week-to-week of the Big Three Ice Cube? Five seasons is something that is impossible. Everything gets canceled now. Everything gets canceled. Everything doesn't have a lasting effect on society
Starting point is 00:22:18 it feels like because people get bored and move on. Are you hands-on day-to-day and how proud of this whole thing are you? Could you think back five seasons ago and imagine this amount of success? Man, are you hands-on day-to-day, and how proud of this whole thing are you? Could you think back five seasons ago and imagine this amount of success? Man, I'm hands and feet on. Okay. It takes everybody skill, you know, working at a high level 15 hours a day to really get this into the fifth season.
Starting point is 00:22:44 You know, it's an incredible league. You know, the league is the biggest three-on-three league in the world. So at the end of the day, you know, we're doing the work. And no league lasts five years. You're right. You know, most leagues, you know, they fizzle out. They don't even last a year. So to be in our fifth season, we're extremely proud. But, you know, there's still a, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:12 a mountain of work to do to really get this league where we want it to be. In our world, in the football world, I mean, literally five leagues have fallen after one year in the last couple years. I mean, it's very difficult to start something new in the sports business. Now, a lot of businesses trying to get into the sports world. You're currently doing business with CBS and Paramount Plus, Vire Network, and DAZN. Let's go, dude. Hey, we're fucking everywhere.
Starting point is 00:23:38 We're hustling out there. What's the next step, you think, for the big three? What are you guys looking to do next? I mean, you know, we're still grinding to bring in more sponsors, How, what's the next step you think for the big three? What's, what are you guys looking to do next? I mean, you know, we still grind into bringing more sponsors, more partners, you know, more people who believe in the league long-term. And, you know, it's, it's definitely an uphill battle. You know, those other leagues coming and going didn't help us, know um you know we we kind of wish they never would have tried it you know it's like either you know you you got the ingredients to make it work
Starting point is 00:24:13 or you don't and we believe we got the ingredients and um here we are you know we did get hurt by the pandemic 2020 um i think everybody you know had to figure out what they was going to do and adjust but we came back in 21 here we go again in 22 and uh getting off to a great start hell yeah we can't wait to watch uh we would like to get into some sponsorship for the big three if possible wouldn't mind doing that i would love to come have you. Come on with it. Hey, come on. Hey, I will get into business with Ice Cube. I feel like that's a successful business to get into. And let's talk about maybe a new business venture. Big, big, big subwoofer in the back.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Like, what's up? Yeah, yeah. Windows out the frame. It's a party one. I pulled a big banger, dude. Fucking bang. How big are we going with that? Are you guys going to continue to go into the studio?
Starting point is 00:25:03 Are we getting more albums, more tours, more everything out of Mount Westmore? Without a doubt. Yes. Let's go! It's great, you know, to be able to hook up with three other legends like Too Short, E-40, and Snoop Dogg. And we've been friends for, man, 25, 30 years. And to be able to still do music together you know we've done
Starting point is 00:25:27 songs with each other but here we go with a whole project touring the country uh selling out arenas it's just a great time to be with those dudes uh i cherish it every time i mean banger though hey that song's a fucking banger you know like some i mean that banger of a song i assume there's more in the way we feel good we got more bangers in the chamber right now with mount westmore without a doubt you know we dropped something in the nft world but we're gonna we hit it in the metaverse we're gonna drop it in the universe and uh you know we got about 50 songs cocked and loaded already i think that's hilarious that is unbelievable how do you have time to make 50 songs with a new group mount westmore okay run the big
Starting point is 00:26:12 league into five seasons you have two movies currently in production post-production and pre-production two in each of those um you've got a tour going on are you a robot you just you'd never sleep what how is what is, because nobody ever talks about, hey, how does Ice Cube manage to fucking do everything? How do you manage to do everything? I'm blessed, you know, to be able to, first of all, do so many different things. You know, I got a great team of people with me,
Starting point is 00:26:42 and we just do proper planning. You know, you can get a lot of cheese if you just plan everything out, you know, perfectly. We don't get it. We don't get it right every time. But at the end of the day, you know, we do get a lot of great things done and I appreciate it. I wouldn't have it no other way. You know, if I was just stuck in one thing, you know, I'd probably go crazy. Yeah. What is is do you get fulfillment out of all of them do you because music was your first love if Mount Westmore goes do you feel better about that if the movie that you may be acting but don't write does good you
Starting point is 00:27:16 don't feel as good because you wrote like is there fulfillment in everything that you accomplish yeah you know I just I'm a creative person so when I'm creating something new you know i just i'm a uh creative person uh so when i'm creating something new you know whether i do it solo or i do it with a team of people you know i feel good about it if if people enjoy it uh if it comes out good even if i just enjoy it you know i feel good about it. So I think that's what really gets me going to be able to create something new, take my time, give people quality, and do it right and do it, you know, in a class way. Hey, if you ever need like a bland white, you know, for any of these movies you're writing, would love.
Starting point is 00:28:02 What? You would love. Man, you far from bland, dude. You know, I got to get somebody way blander than you, man. Come on, man. All right, well, let's go full mayonnaise. Connor, your question for Ice Cube? Yeah, Ice Cube.
Starting point is 00:28:16 I saw you already expanded the big three league with more teams. Do you plan on doing that? And then as far as creation goes, do you kind of feel like you created the three-on-three sport that's now in the Olympics? Well, you know, we definitely, you know, feel like we had a lot to do with it. I wouldn't say create.
Starting point is 00:28:37 You know, FIBA has been doing three-on-three for 40, 50 years. But they just do the amateur version of it welcome back to that show 47 minutes in the hour one on this glorious thursday june 23rd 2022 let's ride let's go again Listen the horses Went out of the barn They came back into the barn Because a storm came That storm came in a surge
Starting point is 00:29:11 That surge became a power outage And even if some of the power To some of these things Because I mean I get a lot of tweets From a lot of people About how smart they are And how dumb we are Of course
Starting point is 00:29:23 It's very valid all the time. But with some of the shit that we have to do this show on a daily basis, if the power goes out for even, like normal power goes out, generator kicks on. But something has to happen for the generator to kick on. I believe it's power go down then generator realizes it's on.
Starting point is 00:29:40 So for that brief moment though where there's a hurr before the hurr comes back, that's some of our shit gets completely fucked. Cut. Just two computers are dead or an entire rack of shit goes out just for a second. And then that resets everything. So we want to extend our deepest apologies to Ice Cube. Of course.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Big fan of Ice Cube. Yeah, massive apologies. I am not pumped about that. And everybody that watches and listens, we apologize for that just dropping out of nowhere. We're 40-some days away from the Thunderdome. Thank God. And we got power backups on power backups. We don't own this building, so I'm not sure we're going to be able to just rewire and repower the building that we are in.
Starting point is 00:30:23 But 40 days from now now we do own the thunder dome yeah and we will hopefully have backups for backups but i appreciate all the electricians and carpenters that tweet me how much smarter uh they are than us when this happens they thought about stuff you haven't yeah exactly i'm i'm not happy this happens uh but such is life yeah let's move along we missed out on a great ending of a conversation with Ice Cube. I'm not happy about it. Is it a quinky dink that Bruce Brown's on the audios and then out of nowhere just all the power drops out? It's the only way it could be. With the electricity of that mustache.
Starting point is 00:30:53 The insane thing. With the electricity of that mustache. Is that thing potentially radiating to the rack back there in the server and shutting everything down? Maybe. Who knows? Guy wins $8,000 last night on a plus $5,000 some bed. And all of a sudden the electricity is just going through his body and shutting us down. I want to let you know I respect it, hate it at the same damn time.
Starting point is 00:31:11 That mustache is a better conductor than copper. You're goddamn right. Copper's legit. Hey, that's a good science experiment you just chatted about right there. I actually installed some new light fixtures last night, too, so I was dealing with some copper wires. Wow. A lot of electricity in here today. Was it no no no i always test this i always test it
Starting point is 00:31:29 make sure you test it before you fucking start touching the wire so let's go through it here let's just go through it kamaru uzman was cutting a great promo yeah unbelievable about what he feels like when he's walking to the cage and we get most of it we get most of it and then the the ending on it kind of the the bow on top cuts out of nowhere bump not happy about it that was great promo massive fire was happening explosions and shit was happening nothing we could don't want him to be angry halloween episode oh yeah a couple of the computers go back to uh factory mode because power out outage again. Straight into it. Sets it back to factory mode. Only one camera worked. We prepared for
Starting point is 00:32:10 that for four days. That's the most we've ever prepared for a show in history. Boom. Complete shit show. And now with Ice Cube on, going into season five of the big three, out of nowhere power out on this part of the building not the other part of the building. Ridiculous. Why doesn't it happen when we're talking about nothing
Starting point is 00:32:26 and AJ's on here being toxic, trying to ruin things? Yeah, it makes you question a lot of things, doesn't it? It's only when there are unbelievable conversations happening. Well, let's dive into another one. The Seahawks allegedly still in the running for Baker Mayfield. Here we go. Albert Breer told us, albert breer is the author of monday morning quarterback which comes out on mondays in the morning sometimes that one
Starting point is 00:32:53 time really oddly it didn't come out until like four o'clock yeah it's just monday afternoon he might have had a power shortage show in the uploading and it had to come on the afternoon anyways albert breer told us look for these mini camps that'll take place and then had to come out in the afternoon. Anyways, Albert Breer told us, look for these minicamps that will take place and then teams to get back into business or stay out of the business. Everybody wants to see what they have, how the rookies look, how the team looks, how the quarterbacks that they're thinking about going into the season look. Seattle Seahawks currently re-signed Geno Smith, traded for Drew Locke within the Russell Wilson trade,
Starting point is 00:33:21 and everybody's assuming that that maybe is still an open competition,'s going to be the quarterback Albert Breer said look for after mandatory minicamp now Josina Anderson is basically tweeting that I'm told the Seahawks still have a high level of interest in acquiring quarterback Baker Mayfield and behind the scenes are open to contractually extending him so that's a big deal per sources. I also know that the process of collecting information and insights into Mayfield is still ongoing. So them being open to contractually extend him is telling them, although maybe the Browns and us don't want to pay you 18 and a half million this year, we can redo a contract here,
Starting point is 00:33:59 give you another two years on the back end of this thing. So you're not a $20 million cap hit. We can make it a little bit lower and you still get guaranteed 18 20 million dollars over the three years four years i don't know if that's exactly what it is but that would make sense if the seattle seahawks were offering that up because then that would go um that would be able to combat the thought that nobody wants to pay the 18.5 million and the browns it sounds like they don't want to pay more than 10 million million or $11 million of that $18.5. So if no deal is to
Starting point is 00:34:28 be made anywhere else, the Seattle Seahawks go, boom! I'm going to show you this gum real quick. Can't we just offer them a three-year deal, do the whole two-year void, and then extend this entire thing, then we don't have to worry about who's paying what? Seems like the right idea. Seems like a good decision. Baker Mayfield and Seattle could be fantastic, especially with the electricity of that crowd
Starting point is 00:34:43 and the way Pete Carroll operates, right? Feels like that'd be a good match. Hey, let's compete, let's compete, let's compete. Let's have a day. I just want to go. We don't know how and why it happened the way it happened in Cleveland. Maybe Seattle's the right spot. Maybe this is the right way to get a deal done.
Starting point is 00:34:56 I love whenever people go outside the box to get a deal done, to make something happen that they think will make them better. Will it pay off in the end? We shall see. Let's ride. Into some more sports talk. I can't believe that I survived another full week here. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:11 The Toxic Table is joining me at Boston Corner. And Nick Moraldo is sitting in place of Ty, who is currently on BabyWise. Here we go, Ty. Here we go, Ty. Come on now. Ty and Kalen, proud of you guys. Go get them.
Starting point is 00:35:22 Good luck. Congratulations. Yeah, you can do it. Uncle Pat's going to spoil the shit out of this thing. Mount up. Mount up. They're going to be so nervous. Oh, my God, I bet.
Starting point is 00:35:32 I can't imagine what they're going through right now. Ty's probably shit his pants five times today. Yeah. I've been doing a lot of that since adding this into my life. Yeah, but it helps. It's nice to take an explosive dump every once in a while, right? Every once in a while, I guess, yeah. But whenever it's starting to become like a two.
Starting point is 00:35:46 A 330 thing. Code red. Yeah, I mean, it is a real interesting thing. I have fallen in love completely, though, with the old iced coffee. So you're doing two a days with those, too? Two. More? You're going more than.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Yeah, yeah. What are you talking about? Went out to Haas, right? This is how Connor started. Connor started with those big boys iced coffees, and then he switched to just a normal coffee drinker. Yeah, I've just been doing the normal coffee, because the one place I went to, let's just say,
Starting point is 00:36:09 it seemed like they were watering down their products, so I kind of just stuck to the morning Keurig, and then one Celsius, four coffees, why not? This is just delightful, and I think it's supposed to cut out my appetite, too, a little bit. Oh, yeah. It will suppress, yeah. Yeah, and I think that's because when you go to the bathroom,
Starting point is 00:36:24 the explosion is like, oh, I don't want to to eat too much because I don't want to have to do that with actual things in my stomach. Is that what the appetite suppressant is from coffee? That's part of it and it's just such a stimulant that your body's jonesing so you're basically just doing luge all day and then you don't really have a need to eat. You're just ready to go. Yeah I'm jacked up man. It's great to be here. I'm so excited that it's Thursday June 23rd and I'm so excited that two people in this office hit massive parlays last night. Huge. We've chatted about the mustache, Bruce Brown, who's currently sitting in for Nick at the audio.
Starting point is 00:36:50 He won $8,000 last night on a plus $5,000 something. Howdy, baby Bruce. Howdy, boy Bruce. And Ten Diggs won multiple thousands of dollars last night on a big parlay. And he did it in a fashion that I didn't know existed. A round Robin sixes. So what is this? What were the odds you hit?
Starting point is 00:37:08 And you hit for four grand last night. Let's go, Tony. 112 bucks, a 38 hunch. That's a great turnout. So as you guys know, I am a self-handicapping son of a bitch. I also do that with my gambling as well. I'm not just going to put an eight-leg parlay in there and expect that to hit. Because I don't have that confidence in myself.
Starting point is 00:37:24 So a round robin is a way to do it now it did it did it did yeah it did but you know that's rare so i do uh something called round robin where you can pick anywhere from if you do an eight leg say like i did you could pick anywhere from seven six five all the way down to two okay so you don't have to go eight no you could go six and two last night and that still would have won now if i would have went five and three i would have lost i would have lost all my money but you could have had fives yes i could have had five times um but the payout the payout is not as good like we both hit eight leggers his payout was a lot better because i self-handicapped myself so the odds aren't as good but you don't have to go eight no you go six and two and still make uh still make a a pretty decent payout
Starting point is 00:38:05 well thank you to fando for that option and congrats to you nice job tony how's goom doing you talk uh chatted with goom much how is uh how's he gambling how's life with him right it's baseball so uh he's always i mean he's he's about as sturdy as they come when it comes to the diamond okay that man can fucking bet the diamond footy. Nails. Those are really the two sweet spots. As far as personal, he's keeping that tight to the vest still. Yeah, me too. He's got a trip. He's got a trip coming up, I think.
Starting point is 00:38:32 I heard about that. We won't hear about it, though, until it's happening. Oh, yeah. Possibly until it's over, I think. The whole world will know when it's happening, right? Don't you think? I think they're just going to post one little sweet photo on Twitter or Instagram and then that's all we're going to hear until he's back.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Oh, I was thinking like a webcam. Please, I hope. What's he do? Torn a facility for weapons of mass destruction? Maybe. I think he's just handling weapons of mass destruction, but I don't know. Joining us now is a man who's a college football national champion,
Starting point is 00:39:06 a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup champion, a COVID survivor, private plane survivor, and a man who takes more vacations because he's earned them. Wow. A.J. Hawk. Yeah! What's up, pal? What are you talking about, Connor?
Starting point is 00:39:18 What's Connor talking about? What do you mean, what am I talking about? He's shooting, I believe. I caught the very end. What's he talking about? Now, you were there the whole time. I heard. He's talking about they're going to a gun range, maybe. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Fire off some weapons, maybe like one of those big old cannons. There it is, a rocket launcher. Yeah, microphone's not on. The whole thought of that weekend, though, that Goom is going to have is absolutely magical. You know, is it going to take place? We don't know. Are they actually going to fall in love? Yes.
Starting point is 00:39:50 I think we've seen the beginnings of a couple falling in love. I don't want to force it too much. I told Goom, hey, take her to Windsor. Take her to Windsor. You get married right there. You walk right across the bridge into Detroit. You drive on to Indy. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:40:03 You've got a new life. Okay. Now, from what I've heard, that's potentially on the bridge into Detroit. You drive on to Indy. Here we go. You got a new life. Okay. Now, from what I've heard, that's potentially on the table. Yeah. What you just mentioned there. And congrats to all parties. We love love. Don't want to force it too much.
Starting point is 00:40:15 We love love, though. And can't wait to see Gumpy back as soon as possible. Just like Ty. Hey, Ty's going to be gone for the next few weeks, Manny. We're on baby watch right now for Ty. So did he, like, have to go in? Like, few weeks, man. We're on baby watch right now for Ty. So did he have to go in? Is she in labor? They're inducing today.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Oh, okay. Yeah. I don't know what that means. Because the due date was last week, and now they today are kind of. See, but I heard, I looked into it. That might not mean it comes today, though. Oh, yeah. It might be tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Some people will labor for like 24 hours after they get induced. That's a bad deal there. It's tough. Yeah, but if it was due last week in due savage, you think that just – I mean, I know nothing. I didn't pay attention to the health class. You would think that thing's ready to go. Yeah, I thought due date was kind of like a final thing.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Like, hey, this is when it's happening. That is not how it works, I guess. Ty sounded ready to stay overnight. Oh, so that's how he's been chatted. And is that because Ty's just expecting the worst of all time? If they induce you, they don't let you leave. They don't induce you and let you go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:07 What? Why? If they induce her to bring the baby out, like, it may take 18 hours, but you're not getting induced. Hey, go hit up Joe's Crab Shack and come on back. No, I don't know if there's any Joe's Crab Shacks around anymore anywhere. Rest in peace, I think, with COVID potentially. I don't think you're allowed to eat crab when you're pregnant well forget serious forget i'm sorry forget crab
Starting point is 00:41:28 we're back on serious how you doing serious great to see you we're sorry we lost all power there uh obviously we were expecting like her not to still be pregnant after being induced in leaving the hospital i think what we were chatting about is hey the baby's gonna come yeah baby's gonna come you know what i mean that and ty's just, the baby's going to come. Baby's going to come. You know what I mean? And Ty's just expecting the worst, that he's going to be there for numerous days. He'll still be there at night if the baby comes. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Okay. So either way, he's there. But he was talking pregnancy. Unless he wants to go home and sleep in his own bed or something. I heard it was a projected Friday 2 a.m. That's what he told me. Really? Yeah. That's like the time.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Might take a while. Might be another 12 hours here. What's up with science? We can't just. That's what you told me Really? Yeah That's like the Might take a while Might be another 12 hours here What's up with science? We can't just That's what I'm saying Is it just a crock of shit Like everything else? Yeah They give it the green light
Starting point is 00:42:12 But You still gotta let it Come down the road That's why I know Pitocin It's called pitocin They give them What?
Starting point is 00:42:19 Thank you None of my kids were induced But yeah Is that what DeAndre Hopkins Had in him? The pitocin? None of my kids were induced But He has a Is that what DeAndre Hopkins had in him? The Pitocin? None of my kids were induced, but... He has a lot of kids.
Starting point is 00:42:26 Well, I'm just saying, yeah, luckily they... Yeah, everyone's different. Yeah, yeah. We were lucky. Is that what was in DeAndre Hopkins? Pitocin? Pitocin. Oh, his was the old Clemson thing.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Pitocin. Started with an O. Anyways, good luck, Caitlin and Ty. Good luck. Yeah, go get him. Good luck. Yes. Good luck.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Good luck. We'll miss you, obviously, and all that, but we can't wait to spoil the fuck out of that baby. It did come out with DeAndre Hopkins had him. Now, this is coming from DeAndre Hopkins. Yeah, he admitted it. Yeah, but I don't think the NFL will ever publicly state what's in those tests, right? So guys for a long time were like, oh, it's the penis growing stuff I was taking. I didn't know it was in there.
Starting point is 00:42:59 And then guys were like, it was Adderall. I was having a long weekend or something. And the NFL would never actually broadcast what it was. Austerine. Or Osterine. Austerine. Austerine. O-S-T-R-I-N-E.
Starting point is 00:43:10 Remember Clemson's players had an issue before their bowl game however many years ago. I remember this. And he went to Clemson, right? Oh, yeah. This is something he did. Oh, he did, yeah. Hopefully before the season starts, maybe we can get the games down a little bit. Deshaun Watson said, it wasn't on me i'm pretty
Starting point is 00:43:25 much a naturopathic person uh what it is was is it austrin o-s-t-a-r-i-n-e there was 0.1 percent hey found in my system if you know what that is you know it's contamination not something directly taken i don't take any supplements i've never taken supplements I barely take vitamins so for something like that to happen to me obviously I was shocked but my team and I were still trying to figure out what's going on now it goes on and says Austrian attaches to proteins in the body known as androgen receptors when Austrian binds to these receptors it tells muscles probably to grow or repair uh it is a type of drug that is called a selective androgen receptor modulator and is often used for athletic
Starting point is 00:44:12 performance as well as involuntary weight loss due to illness breast cancer and many other conditions now this pro football talk is that what this is right here? This report? I don't think it is. What we're reading here? Just based on the format. They use different. ArizonaSports.com. I can't remember. Okay, so ArizonaSports.com got an interview. By the way, Mike Florio.
Starting point is 00:44:36 Hey, Paisan. We got nothing but love for you, man. You cover football vastly different than we cover football. Nothing but love. The picture was just what you reported, which was an accurate report, Paisan. Listen. Nothing but love. The picture was just what, I mean, it was what you reported, which was an accurate report, Paisan. Listen, nothing but love, dude. Do what you got to do.
Starting point is 00:44:52 We appreciate the hell out of your reporting there. But DeAndre Hopkins saying it was 0.1%. Do you get that information from the NFL? And how do we know at all that, listen, I love DeAndre Hopkins. I understand everything he's saying. But literally everybody that has failed a test has come out and said something's contaminated or I was taking an Adderall. Nobody really comes out and says, yeah, I was just trying to get faster, quicker, recover faster, and beat everybody else.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Like that never happens. Even though DeAndre Hopkins has never done anything that we shouldn't believe what he says, the NFL will never release that information. Right, AJ? And will we ever know? No, the answer. No, I know in the end, I think in the end i think in the cba it says like if someone tests positive for they'll either say performance enhancer or like the street
Starting point is 00:45:30 substance of abuse they don't say uh whatever you tested positive for like if you want to let people know yes you're obviously allowed but it sounds like he has a good case in this appeal like if i would assume if he's saying it was 0.1 or whatever 0.01 that during the appeal process he got all that information right like hey show we want to see the a sample the b sample you have all your people look at it it would it sounds like you have a good appeal but i don't know we're already done with the appeal process the one quote was yeah there's no more appeals right it's already over the one thing is um when he said if you know what that is, you know it's contamination, not something directly taken, if it's 0.1%. So how come that's not something that's in the CBA then?
Starting point is 00:46:15 Do we know that it's contamination? We can only take what DeAndre Hopkins said. If you had a small amount, like trace amounts of something, it could mean you took it a while ago, too. I'm not saying he's guilty of anything. I'm just saying different reasons. That's what the NFL lawyers and the drug people would probably say. Is he already done, though? Isn't he already done with the appeal process?
Starting point is 00:46:37 I thought whenever it came out, yeah, this is final. This is happening. Yeah, and he withdrew his appeal, I thought. Yeah. Because he got, in November, he was made aware, and so they've been in the appeal process for a while. So maybe he's just publicly stating, so public opinion is vastly different
Starting point is 00:46:50 than everybody just assuming this guy's eating Tremble and sandwiches and shit, you know? Why wouldn't he retest, too, if it was that small of a number? Like, does he not become aware of what gets tested for? He's talking about the B sample and everything else like that. He probably had numerous tests since this moment. have a do you have a supplement you could go and test all of them and
Starting point is 00:47:09 see what may have that austere in it that's what you want to do yeah but not only that how do you still test positive yeah how do you prove that that was what you took too at the time is there a picture of you too it's the nfl's rules on some-enhancing drugs have been long, I don't want to say unfair, but kind of fucking unfair because the supplement game in the United States of America is the wild, wild west. So the NFL even tells you that, though. Like, every meeting is, hey, you are responsible for what goes in your body. I have a question. What happens if I don't know what's going in? Because it's not FDA approved, none of these supplements.
Starting point is 00:47:47 So what they say on the side of it could not be real at all. Well, you got to know. The companies don't even know. How the fuck am I supposed to? Yeah, you got to know. That's what, sorry, we don't know how to fuck a day. Sorry about it, basically, is what the NFL says, right? Am I not accurate in saying that?
Starting point is 00:48:00 That's kind of how every single conversation, every single training camp about performance enhancing drugs has gone that i've witnessed absolutely you're 100 right but they tell you you are responsible for whatever is in your body whether that's a tainted supplement whatever it is but they do have a bunch of resources now where if you want to take something they have a website you can test to see if anything any banned substances wherever like manufactured in that lab all of these different things and like pepper burst little trainer and he was in green bay for a long time he
Starting point is 00:48:29 said he was like guys if it works it's probably bad yeah hold on i was about to say same thing going through the coach training room as well i like brought something in i'm like all right i need to start hitting the weights a little bit it was off season workout i'm like this is the shit i'm gonna get on and uh one of the guys just like casual smart ass in the training room trainer goes yep not allowed to take that and i was like what why what are you talking about i feel like this is something that everybody takes he goes uh well does it work i'm like i think so it seems a band i'm like what do you what do you mean he said there's a good rule to live by pat while you're here in the nfl if it works if it helps you lose weight uh gives you a little bit more of a pump,
Starting point is 00:49:07 you get a little burn feeling inside your body, there's a 99% chance that it is banned on the thing. I was like, well, how does everybody get better, faster, stronger, and everything like that? They're eating the same shit as me. Well, you eat pizza, and you're a fat fuck. But, yes, it is kind of that whole thing. I do feel like the NFL's testing policies for performance enhancing drugs has always been very solid. Now, I don't, not always
Starting point is 00:49:32 because back in the day, there's stories of guys eating steroids in the locker room and everything like that. They weren't tested back then. Yeah, in the modern era, I think the NFL is pretty solid at testing and finding out what the next thing is that everybody's using to cheat and then getting that on there. Cause every year there was a new something getting added to it that you've
Starting point is 00:49:50 never heard of that has an insane name. And then it's like, Oh, also found in book. Like for instance, the deer antler shit. Yeah. When the deer antler shit popped off,
Starting point is 00:49:59 it wasn't an illegal band substance at the time. Then it all becomes public. And it's like, well, that's fucking boom. That one's now on the, that's fucking boom. That one's now on the, the whole band substance. I remember when you're banned,
Starting point is 00:50:10 dear antler, you're fucking banned. You're not doing the same thing as the goddamn venison meat. You're fucking vastly different. That deer antler, this magical stuff. But yeah, I remember the next meeting where they said added to the band substance list,
Starting point is 00:50:23 whatever the scientific term is for that deer antler split, uh and going oh what's that well it's the deer antler spray that who knows how many of you have been using oh i'm like fuck who has the intel on what is not in the thing and what could be but it's always a constant game i think the nfl is pretty good honestly i believe that as somebody that watched and was in there i've said it from day one on this show and anyone ever asked me because people assume everyone's taking steroids in the nfl and i've said i don't know how anyone gets away with taking like legit anything that is on the band substance list if anyone's injecting themselves with anything i don't know how they're getting away with it i'm sure there are some guys doing it in creative ways with nice like guys that are ahead of the system but man i just think the
Starting point is 00:51:05 the performance enhancing part of it like they test you a lot like i don't know how you get around it i think um the hh that's a different story people are doing that for sure whoa whoa are they still drawing blood do we know and has anybody ever failed for it without just saying yeah i'm taking it probably not they might come to somebody and say your human growth levels are much higher than everybody else's that we've ever got well that's because i produce it higher sorry about it do you have any scientific proof that says i fucking don't no fuck off and and now if somebody goes ah you got me i'm so sorry i think they got it but i believe the hgh testing has not been foolproof yet i i
Starting point is 00:51:45 believe that was a big deal for a couple years like oh they're going to draw blood you don't want to take blood from these dudes all of it i think it was three years fighting that yeah because they're like okay how do we find a baseline we need a baseline number that we could compare these numbers to okay let's say like a weird number this guy his hgh level was 800 i don't know if that's how they would label it or whatever and this guy's is 300 well what's your baseline what do you start at and remember the big fight was well some basic ass normal fucking doctor humans got something you would think that jj watts is probably higher just natural by the name human growth hormone jj is jj and you are you. That was kind of what the NFLPA said through the entirety. And I believe the NFL and the NFLPA, and this is an assumption, not an accurate,
Starting point is 00:52:34 and I don't want this to be slander or libel to anybody, but I believe the NFL wants the NFLPA and said, hey, we got to fucking test for it. The whole world is looking at it. Nobody's going to fail because we don't have a baseline, but we have to fucking test for it. The whole world is looking at it. Nobody's going to fail because we don't have a baseline, but we have to fucking put it in. And the NFL PA was like, all right, deal. Fucking draw blood, I guess. You guys are paying for the nurse that's drawing the blood with the piss test as well?
Starting point is 00:52:56 Yeah, we'll handle all that. Okay, you got to do what you got to do. That's what it felt like, didn't it, AJ? That's kind of what it felt like when it was kind of rolling into the NFL towards the tail end of our careers. Oh, absolutely. That was, it was like a big thing. It really was between the PA and the NFL and all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:53:11 And I don't know how it ends up. I don't know if they, man, we should, we got to ask some current players. Hey, what's the deal? Like with that, are you, when's the last time you had to give blood? Do you think any of these current players are on any of this shit that was potentially being used in the past? I feel like nowadays the naturopathic is what DeAndre said. I think that is much more mainstream for like everybody.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Like toward all use. I wonder if toward all usage, there's always going to be people that take it and are dogs and don't care about what goes in their body. But I feel like nowadays the modern athlete is much more like count your carbs, your sugars, everything going into your body. Like there's a lot of people
Starting point is 00:53:43 that didn't want the vaccine in their body because they're like everything that I put into my body is calculated from the doctor that I met with when I was 10 years old. Okay. Drew my blood. I, this is what I'm allergic to. This is the, this is the optimum amount of calories I'm supposed to take. My metabolic resting rate is this. I want to hang out with this guy. There's a lot of those people. I know there's, there's a healthy mix. You got to have healthy balance, I feel like, of being instinctual and a real person as well as a little bit of that. There's got to be dogs everywhere, though, that are like, yeah, fuck it. Shoot me off.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Yes. AJ Hawk should be the baseline for all current players on HGH testing. If anyone has HGH levels in their body above AJ Hawk, ban them immediately because they are cheating. What do you think? That jawline? Yes. I wonder what mine is.
Starting point is 00:54:24 I need to get mine tested. Can you do that? Through the roof. I think you can get yours tested. Yeah, you can probably get everything tested. I've heard people give their blood, and then the doctor comes back and tells them what they should eat, what they shouldn't eat, what their body's best on. Like, guys, swear by it. Have you done that?
Starting point is 00:54:40 Yeah, I did. I went to one of those guys, I don't know, four or five years ago, and you're heavily heavily allergic to like the eggs chicken eggs that you eat i was like well i eat like 15 of them a day and he said okay well you're very allergic and i he said will you are you gonna stop eating them and i said is it gonna change my life and he was like he paused and he said no i don't know actually he said it basically like he said they're allergic as in like it inflames i snore bad i can't breathe out of my nose he said it's inflammation as in it inflames. I snore bad. I can't breathe out of my nose. He said it's inflammation in my head and all that. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:55:08 Who knows? So you paid this doctor to run a test. I eat a ton of eggs still. Okay. So you paid this doctor to run a test. Then this doctor gives you his findings or her findings, and you say, yeah, I'm not going to fucking listen to you. What is that?
Starting point is 00:55:20 No, I asked him. He said, oh, it's like when anyone says, oh, I'm allergic to this, or I can't have gluten oh really or is it an intolerance or is just upset your little baby tummy which one is i need to know are you hurt are you injured yeah and so that's what i asked him with my eggs i said allergic but i still been going about my life thriving is it going to change my life and he said you know what probably not that much i said all right thank you very much so you've been going through your life thriving. Why'd you even fucking give your blood to the person?
Starting point is 00:55:47 What's the point? Because I wanted to know if there was something else. He tested for like 5 billion different foods and different things. Yeah. People change their entire life with that. Joining us now is a man who was in the NBA for a long time. So I wonder if the NBA has the same type of bullshit that NFL players go through to try to keep their bodies on day to day.
Starting point is 00:56:01 Much longer season. A lot of running. A lot of traveling. I'd be intrigued to hear his thoughts. to keep their bodies on day-to-day. Much longer season, a lot of running, a lot of traveling. I'd be intrigued to hear his thoughts. Ladies and gentlemen, co-host of the Knuckleheads podcast, Quentin Richards. Yeah, Quentin Richards!
Starting point is 00:56:15 What's going on, fellas? What's going on? Hey, Q, sorry you caught us in the tail end of that conversation there. Allegedly, DeAndre Hopkins was on Osterin, which we just learned about. 0.1% is something that happened. Did the NBA, do you guys, there's not a lot of performance enhancing drugs in the NBA, right? Ever? Has there ever been? Not to my knowledge. I mean, we just go hoop, man. I haven't, I haven't heard it. I don't even know what Ostrin is, whatever that is. That's, that's, that's my first time I think ever hearing that word. So yeah, I didn't know what it was either.
Starting point is 00:56:46 Obviously, AJ did. He is a picture of performance enhancing drugs over there. He never failed a test. Never failed a test. Well, someday I will. Yeah, me too, hopefully, if we find the right shit. Maybe need Austrin a little bit. But the long-ass season and with the sleep deprivation
Starting point is 00:57:02 and the travel and the joints, is there any thought to all that, or is it just we'll eat, we'll hoop, we'll move on to the next city? It feels like the NBA much more nonchalant when it comes to all that stuff. Yeah, man, I mean, from my knowledge, I mean, the teams and a lot of the organizations have been doing a lot of different things as far as, like, staying over after games, trying to make sure players get the extra rest. But that's about the extent of it that I know.
Starting point is 00:57:29 I think Doc Rivers might have been one of the first guys that when he had Boston, he would have them stay over after the game instead of getting out of there unless it was a back-to-back, obviously. So, I mean, other than that, I haven't heard too much crazy stuff. I mean, obviously, like you guys talked about, nutritionists and different things like that but any any i i hadn't ran across any performance enhancing guys or any i hadn't even really heard a lot of stories about that in the nba okay so us nfl guys on our
Starting point is 00:57:56 trembla and sandwiches would go over and fucking wreck shop built it thought so thought so dude wait till you see what a half man half horse can do. That's what the NFL had there for like fucking 15, 20 years. They had to make a lot of rules. Quentin, let's dive into this. The draft is tonight. Huge night for the NBA. Everybody knows the lottery selection and how this all comes about. It's the most exciting and electrifying way to determine the order of a draft, I think, out of all sports.
Starting point is 00:58:24 Now, everybody assumes it's rigged because it's the NBA, and everybody thinks everything is rigged. But the Orlando Magic have the first pick. Then the Thunder, Rockets, Kings, Pistons, Pacers at number six. There's been a lot of jump on who's the favorite to be the number one overall pick. Just yesterday, I think, Banchero out of Duke ran up to the top of all the sportsbooks to be the favorite. This morning, right now, Jabari Smith is minus 480 at FanDuel to go number one overall.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Everybody, I think Woj tweeted that the first three are already locked in with Chet Holmgren getting thrown in there. Is there any surprises in this thing? Should we look for that to happen? And are these guys that are projected to go top overall, are they just locks to do well in the NBA? I don't, I mean, as far as skill-wise, I think all of these guys have the skill and talent to, you know, to be able to do well in the NBA.
Starting point is 00:59:19 But I think we all know it depends on what's inside of them, man, what's driving them, how hard they're willing to work and how bad they want, you know, a great career in the NBA because I don't care how much talent you got if you don't put that work in, your ass going to be out of here or sitting on the bench pretty soon. Hey, what's the biggest thing for these young guys coming into the league? Say they're a top five pick and they come in, are they, do they all have to instantly become better shooters? I feel like everybody in the NBA is lights out wherever you go.
Starting point is 00:59:41 Like what's the biggest adjustment? I think the biggest adjustment is just the talent level. I think, you know, when you're in college or wherever you come from and you're a top five pick, you're used to being, like, a lot better than most of the guys around you. And when you come here, everybody done what you already did. And they got, you know, they got years in this. They looking at you like, okay, young buck, what you going to do?
Starting point is 01:00:03 And it's, you know, obviously some can translate and and hit off right away but that's not you know realistic for everybody either uh why do you think there's been so much jump on the sports books on who's going to go one overall like the nfl draft we try to read the gm that's making the pick we try to read the situation then obviously the hype is the n NBA the same way when figuring out who's going to get drafted or is it always like the best players going to go uh before the other best players because in basketball you can kind of build around superstars yeah I mean it's usually unless you have some type of you know crazy gap from the you know the top guy to the next guy if it's if it's guys are kind of similar in talent you would look at what team has the number one
Starting point is 01:00:44 pick and what their need is. And then you can kind of gauge off that. I think that's why a lot of people are saying that Jabari Smith is going to go number one overall to Orlando because they, he fits the need because they got a lot of big guys and he too is a 16 big guy, but he's seen as more of a wing player and, you know, he has a Kevin Durant comparison. So that's extremely intriguing. And, I mean, when you look at Chet Holmgren,
Starting point is 01:01:08 I would think if they didn't have some of the bigger guys they had, that he would be an option. But they got a lot of big guys, so I don't know how realistic that is for him. Chet, hilarious-looking person, right? I mean, that is – he's a one-of-one, right? Doesn't it feel like he's a one-of-one? No, he is actually not. I was actually at dinner last night, and I saw him and his family.
Starting point is 01:01:28 And literally, he has two sisters, the mother, everybody. You'll see tomorrow at the draft. You will not be saying that he is a one-of-one. You'll be seeing tonight at the draft. His whole family is tall. He had, like, two sisters. We were all looking like, this is crazy. Like seriously, they're all footers.
Starting point is 01:01:49 It was amazing. They're all footers. That's hysterical. That is. At least the women, that's six footers. But you know, that's still tall. It was crazy. Hey, that's hilarious basketball lingo.
Starting point is 01:02:00 Yeah, he's a footer or whatever. Yeah. It feels like, by the way, the future of the basketball is all footers. There's a dude at IMG who's like 7'4 or something. He's a 15-year-old, and it seems like he's got handles, and now they're learning earlier how to take care of the body, and they're getting more dexterity somehow. Back in the day when somebody had a growth spurt, they couldn't walk.
Starting point is 01:02:20 They looked like a giraffe for like maybe the next two, three years of their life. Nowadays, it feels like these seven-foot guys, six-foot, ten guys have more handle and show. Why is that? And is that the future of the game? Just big guys that can do everything? I mean, yeah, I think that's the evolution of it.
Starting point is 01:02:39 You see these guys, like you said, at a much younger age, you know, being taller, they're out their coordination and they trying different things. I mean, I think when you got guys like Joel Embiid, Jokic, you know, Kevin Durant being as tall as he is, and those guys have changed the game. You see the big guys growing up, they look at that and they say, I want to do that or I want to be able to handle the ball and shoot jumpers. So they start trying it at such a young age that they they realistically have a good chance to be good at it and some of them are really you know you see the brandon ingrams and you know the tatums
Starting point is 01:03:09 and these guys are legit six nine six ten and able to do everything that guards can do because they saw these guys coming before them hey six nine six ten looks a lot different these days doesn't it absolutely i mean six nine six10 back in the day used to be- Playing point guard now. Used to, this is, you know what I mean? You couldn't even really, people couldn't even run. They looked uncomfortable. Like, the joint's dead in about a year.
Starting point is 01:03:36 Don't make it. And then lugging back down the court, you know? I think watching him back pedal. And that just, nowadays, Tate, I have no idea. Tate, I'm six foot nine. He is monster. And he's smooth. And it's just, it's crazy how the human, you know,
Starting point is 01:03:54 body has evolved into the incredible athlete that some people become nowadays. I think it's obviously because of science. And the more we learn, the better it gets. But I feel like the NBA is going to benefit from that type of shit immensely going forward especially if everybody in chet's family's a bunch of footers yeah bring them in go ahead connor yeah q rich for dudes like yokich and luca who are coming from overseas who have already played pro is there a more uh kind of advantage to drafting guys like that because they're already in the culture of professional basketball versus guys that are coming out of college.
Starting point is 01:04:29 I think all of that's a situational type deal because there's been some guys that's come over from overseas that have been playing pro, and they didn't really hit off as good as those two. I think those two are extreme scenarios when you're looking at, you know, obviously Jokic being a back-to-back MVP and Luka being in that conversation now. So, I mean, I think those two guys were – I think Luka is a super, super rare situation where he came over and he was 100% pro-ready.
Starting point is 01:04:54 He had played however many years in the pros and had won MVPs and won championships. So, he was a really rare situation where he came over and he feels like the NBA is, you know, is not as physical as overseas in the league that he played at. So I think he came in a different type of situation. I don't want to take everything back to Chet. He's going to get fucking bodied, though.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Wait, who? Chet? Yeah. Oh, listen, the kid is thin. I mean, I'm going to reserve that opinion until I see him get out there because it's not the same NBA it was 10 years ago. 10, 15 years ago, I would absolutely say he's going to get creamed and crushed down inside. But, I mean, it's a lot of guys that slim and trim
Starting point is 01:05:36 and they moving and they figuring it out. So, I think if he can figure out a way that his body is, if he got that wiry strong thing going, we'll see. He definitely has the length. He's going to be a threat at the rim on offense and defense no matter what. He's got that wiry strength going on. Watery, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:05:54 I fucking love it. Go ahead, Tone. Q Rich, can you please explain to us how John Wall, well I know it's guaranteed contracts, but 40 games over the last three years and he's gotten $47 million this year. Does Houston just not want to play him? What's the situation?
Starting point is 01:06:09 If you could just explain that to us, please. Well, yeah, I think last year was absolutely a situation where he wanted to play. He came out a couple times. I think, you know, you take your hat off to him because he – Houston had young draft picks and young players and basically went totally young, and they told him, you know, that he could have he could have bucked the system and said no. But he agreed with them that he would stay away from the team to allow those guys to, you know, find their way and do their thing. And having a having a figure like that could kind of, you know, kind of be intimidating, even if he's not trying to at some time.
Starting point is 01:06:39 So I think he he did a cool thing as far as from a player standpoint. I think he did a cool thing as far as from a player standpoint, but then it came to a point where he was like, yo, I agreed to go away because I thought, you know, you guys were going to make a move for me and I was going to get to go somewhere. Like, I'm ready to play. I was injured before, but like this past season, from everything I heard and know, he was ready to play.
Starting point is 01:06:57 He was available to play, but they weren't able to make a move for him. So, I mean, you look at now what's going to come up on this year. If they can't make a move for him, it's going to be the same situation because he doesn't want to sit out again this year. I mean, anybody who follows him on Instagram, you see him, he's been working extremely hard. He looks like
Starting point is 01:07:13 he's in great shape. He's looking like he's got his athleticism and things back. So, he's ready to play. So, something has to come to a head here with that. Are the Rockets dumb? How is this even... Hey, we don't want this if he's healthy. John Wall, if he's healthy, right? Still a guy. Still a guy?
Starting point is 01:07:31 Yeah, he's a guy to me. I think so. Everything he showed me before shutting it down when they asked him not to play anymore, he looked like he was back. And everything I've seen from social media of him working out, he looked... I mean, I don't take much account of that. I look at how his body is, how his explosion and how he's moving and things like that.
Starting point is 01:07:49 So I don't try and look and see, like, what type of highlights are being shown. I just look at him. He's back healthy and he looks like he's back physically where he needs to be. And if that's true, I think John Wall can play in this league right now and be impactful. Production value probably pretty high. Made $47 million, didn't do anything last year. I saw him play a game of spades i believe during an interview and he was crushing looked like he still had his competitive edge which i respect but the rockets think their
Starting point is 01:08:12 culture is so fucking bad that john wall will pay you 47 million not to be around our team what what i thought that type of incompetency only happened in the NFL at some places like Detroit. Not now, obviously, the MCDC. But that sounds like a Detroit Lions type situation there. What is that what the Rockets are known for? And how did this come to be, you think? I don't think they're known for that. I think it's just a situation. This is why this is why when when I hear fans and different people talk about, you know, trying to be critical to pro athletes. It's like, this is a prime situation. Like, you know, they told him, like, now the shoe was on the other foot,
Starting point is 01:08:49 and he was unhappy, and he was like, hey, I want to be away from the team. They'd be telling him he's a team killer, he's this, but, like, he amicably agreed. They said, hey, we don't want you around. Go home and be away. And, like, I'm being paid $47 million. I could totally say i deserve i
Starting point is 01:09:05 belong here i don't want to go anywhere but you know he did that i make a bleep but if the shoe was on the other foot where he's feeling like hey they would kill him he's paying you 47 million they would be killing them and this is just how it goes that's why i feel like he's in a great situation where he was hurting all those things going on but he's getting paid a ton of money, no matter what happens. So he does win in that situation, but it's like, everybody isn't that fortunate. You get guys that get sent home and stuff.
Starting point is 01:09:33 They ain't got no guaranteed deal. It's just over with for them. Q rich. Can the warriors keep this up? Can they continue to dominate and win championships? And are they going to be able to keep this team together? Yes. From everything Joe Lake of it said, he sold a piece of the –
Starting point is 01:09:48 I think he sold a piece of the arena or the team or something to give himself like $500 million to 600 million to be able to cover the run. So, I mean, when you win a championship and you do things like that, like that kind of pays for it. Like, you know, like the whole – everybody talked about the Rams having another ring. They came and had the Super Bowl there and won it. They got all that money back. They on the way
Starting point is 01:10:08 to getting it back if they ain't got it all back. So it's like for the Warriors, they were, I think they were being smart and tactful and knowing, like, trying to calculate how many more years the Steph and Draymond and Klay have together, and they want to close that run out and not do what my Chicago Bulls did and ran
Starting point is 01:10:23 MJ out of town and ruined the damn dynasty we had. So I'm absolutely go Lakers and that on the flip group for sticking to the guns and standing with these guys through and through. Like, cause they went through a lot of injuries and stuff where people were saying, you should trade Clay, you should do this, you should blow it up. And they held firm and they,
Starting point is 01:10:40 they reaping the benefits of it now. They watched the last answer. They, we will not be portrayed how Jerry Kraut is that his name? Krauts. Jerry Krauts. Can't have you guys dunking on me on the team plane and
Starting point is 01:10:55 me being the asshole. Last question from me Q before I know you have a long day of coverage of the NBA draft and we appreciate your time. Who's the European that's just going to sneak in here and we're not going to know who exists and then probably become somebody tonight? Is there a guy, a couple guys?
Starting point is 01:11:11 Is there anybody on the lookout here that we should keep an eye for? I'm hearing this. I don't want to say his name wrong. It's close to Jokic. It's like Nikola. Jovic. Jovic. That's it.
Starting point is 01:11:24 Jovic. It's something like that. It's like he's from what I'm hearing, he's going to be that somebody is going to sneak up and kind of surprise people. I haven't seen much, but that's what I'm being told. Is that Boa? Is that Bo Cruz?
Starting point is 01:11:39 I don't know. Have you watched Hustle? Oh, no, that's not. No, I haven't watched the movie. No, thatle? Oh, no, that's not. No, I haven't watched the movie. No, that's not him. No, that's not. That's Juan. Juan.
Starting point is 01:11:51 Juan. I can't remember his last name. It's Bo Cruz. His name's Bo Cruz from this point forward. Number 22. You haven't seen Hustle, though? Did you? Listen, I've been so busy running around between the podcast, the finals,
Starting point is 01:12:07 and then doing stuff with coming up to the draft now. I have not had a chance to, to be honest. What's the NBA community's thoughts on Hustle? Overwhelmingly positive? Yeah, I think everybody I talk to, everybody loves it. Like all the players I talk to, a lot of the, you know, Kenny and all them guys are excited about it. I mean, everybody I talked to liked it.
Starting point is 01:12:25 Okay, Anthony Edwards might win an Oscar. Yeah, crushed. I heard he was real good in there. A lot of people was talking about him, saying he really did good. Like, he might be able to act for real. Or that's just who he is, and it just was an easy role. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:39 Just natural villain, asshole shit talker, which I think he could be. Yeah, Kermit. He might be a method actor. We're not sure. Who knows? We appreciate you. Good luck today, pal. Thank you, guys. Appreciate you for having me. Ladies and gentlemen, Quentin Richardson. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:12:52 Thank you, Rich. Did he play in the Big 3? Is he still on? Q, did you ever play in the Big 3? Yeah, yeah. I won championships. Season 2. Power. Me, Corey McGarry, Patino Mowbray, Big Baby Davis. What a team.
Starting point is 01:13:07 Birdman. Jeez. Stacked. Coach Nancy Lieberman. Yeah, we took home the title that year. Did you guys even lose a game there with that team? We lost, I think, once or twice. Maybe once.
Starting point is 01:13:21 I think we lost one game. Did you love it? Oh, yeah. We had an awesome time. It was a cool time, man. Every weekend, we get to get together, and we kicked a lot of ass that time. And that was my first time in a long time winning a championship. So, you know, it was sweet.
Starting point is 01:13:33 Okay. I'm happy. It's going into its fifth season right now. Big three. That's fucking incredible. There's not a lot of leagues that last five seasons. And that's because former champion of the Big Three, Quinn Richardson. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Q-Ridge.
Starting point is 01:13:43 because former champion of the Big Three, Quinn Richardson. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Q-Ridge. Joining us now is an insider for the insiders. He owns the At Schultz Report Twitter handle, which we have referenced numerous times on this particular show. Oh, yeah. Has he batted 1,000? No.
Starting point is 01:14:01 Has any insider batted 1,000? No. Seems like as of late, though, motherfuckers at 99% had Gronk's retirement before everybody else. He hosts a pull-up podcast with CJ McCollum. He's a host of the Game Day NFL and also works for the boardroom. This dude's been there, done that with everything. NFL insider Jordan Schultz. Hey, Schultz!
Starting point is 01:14:24 What's up, dude? What's up, fellas? Thanks for having me. No, it is Jordan Schultz. Hey, Schultz! What's up, dude? What's up, fellas? Thanks for having me. No, it is great to have you. I didn't know this type of electricity was coming through. Where are we right now? Are you in a log cabin out in the middle of the woods? I'm in the middle of the woods, baby, but hey, I always got time for the Pat McAfee Show with AJ.
Starting point is 01:14:39 Hey, let's go. We appreciate you finding a little bit of service in there. Is that a log cabin? Is that a... A log cabin, actually, yeah. We got you finding a little bit of service in there. Is that a log cabin? Is that a log cabin action? Yeah, we got low-level Wi-Fi, but in this case, I was able to prop it up and basically throw away my Xbox so this would work. Okay, well, plug that thing back in afterwards because it's much more important than this convo with us, but we appreciate you taking time out of your Woods vacation.
Starting point is 01:15:02 You're always working. Every insider's working. How did you get the Gronk information before anybody else? And you obviously have shows in the NBA with CJ McCollum, and you work for the boardroom and everything. Are you both NBA and NFL guy, and should we be treating you as such a little bit more? I really appreciate the love. So I've actually kind of shifted more toward the NFL over these past six
Starting point is 01:15:24 months to a year because, Pat, to your point, I think it's confusing sometimes when people ask me, what are you? And I don't really know because I've kind of done both. So I would say I've shifted more toward the NFL. I've talked to your good friend, our good friend Ian Rappaport about this saying, you know, it's better to be really good at one than just pretty decent at three or four things. I love the NBA. I played basketball in college for four years. But I can still shoot it, still shoot it. But I would say that in the case of Rob, that was one of those things where we've been really good friends for a few years now.
Starting point is 01:16:00 And I had put a bug in his ear about six months ago. And I said, hey, I don't know what you're going to do next offseason, but whatever it is, whatever you decide, would you feel comfortable sharing the information with me? And he did it, and he was a man of his word. He told me when the time comes, I'll take care of you, and that's, I don't know how well you know Rob, but he is one of the really good dudes,
Starting point is 01:16:21 and he has this, like, persona being this crazy kind of, you know, bigger-than-life personality. But if you spend time with him, he's like a very low-key, chill dude, and he's been great. Gronk. Jordan, how confident are you that he stays retired? I know Drew Rosenhaus already has made comments that he thinks he might come back and negotiating who knows what's going on.
Starting point is 01:16:40 But what are your feelings on that? When I talked to him right after he we basically talked for 15 minutes before I put the news out and I said are you sure this is what you want and everything and this is it and he said he really does feel content and I asked him what does that mean and he said basically look over the last 10 years he's been through a lot from a health standpoint when he came out of college he had a broken back out of Arizona he slipped in the draft he had a basically a plate in his back that's still there he's been injured multiple times he's had a ton of issues with head and head injuries and i think he really does feel content
Starting point is 01:17:14 he's going to pursue other opportunities outside of football investing acting career the funny guy that he can pretty much do whatever he wants but i got the sense that right now he just wants to be low-key and i kind of asked him like look if tom calls week 10 and says rod i need you baby come come back like what do you what do you say to that and i got the sense that the answer remains no at 33 years old but he has done this before i wouldn't be shocked per se if he came back for the end of the season yeah tom's a's a great recruiter, too, you know. And Tom and him have been to the mountaintop numerous times together. What do you think took so long? And do you think he made his decision up whenever Tom announced his retirement?
Starting point is 01:17:54 Then when Tom came back, he had to, like, contemplate? Because there was that video of him coming out of the barbershop in Tampa Bay. And they said, hey, what are you? Oh, no. Oh, I thought we lost service in the woods. They said, hey, Rob, what are you doing? Are you going to come back? He goes, I'll make him wait for it a little bit longer.
Starting point is 01:18:10 And we all kind of thought, oh, he's just going to come back training camp. He's going to miss all the – his smart move, enjoy his summer, do his thing. Do you think he was contemplating, or do you think he's done this for a little bit of time? No, I do think he was contemplating because when the season ended – Oh, he's definitely coming back then. I was with him when the season ended, and I said, how are you feeling physically? And he said, you know, I'm tired, but I have to think about this. I won't know for a couple of months.
Starting point is 01:18:32 And we had I had checked in with him over the last few months and I didn't get a definitive answer. And to me, that was either he's leaning towards either he doesn't know or he's maybe leaning towards coming back. And I was with Tom about six weeks ago and I asked him have you talked to rob and he was like i don't really know it's still pretty early so to me the answer is he probably made the decision over the last few days maybe the last week made sure he was right and then ultimately decided that's what he was going to go with congrats grob there you go rob hell of a run pal can't wait to see what the best tight end ever i mean yes, it has to be, right? Yes.
Starting point is 01:19:06 In my eyes, he is. But everybody calls me, like, disrespectful to the old generations, you know? The Kellen Winslows of the world. Yes. Well, Gates, Gonzalez. Gates, Gonzalez, sure. Yeah, there's, like, that whole conversation. Dallas.
Starting point is 01:19:21 Shannon, yeah. Hell of a player. Dallas Clark was a teammate of mine. He's unbelievable. There has been great tight ends through the past, but I think if you picked Gronk up and put them in any era, he would have done well. Like if it was back in the, Hey, tight ends are just another left tackle or right tackle. I think Gronk would have been all pro then you drop them in now,
Starting point is 01:19:42 whether it's much more pass heavy to the tight end, you got to be able to get open. He's obviously rose to the top here. I think that is why, in my eyes, Gronk is the best tight end of all time, but people attack me for not having respect for the pass all the time. You know what I mean? Well, I think you can have respect for all those great players, but
Starting point is 01:19:57 his first five, six, seven years, to your point, and AJ, you would know this better than me as well, but wasn't Rob a premier blocker who was very willing as well and that made a massive difference not only in the New England passing game but the running game as well absolutely and he had a buddy on the opposite side to play tight end with him that was a freak athlete too so oh yeah well Hernandez the guy was Hernandez I don't know if you ever watched him play the guy could fly he was an L player paid him before they paid Gronk.
Starting point is 01:20:26 What are you getting information on the draft tonight? Is that what the calls are right now? Yeah, a couple calls on the draft. You saw some trades. Jeremy Grant was traded to Portland. But I am fired up with this draft. This is a sneaky good draft. I don't know how much you paid attention to it, but there's some good players.
Starting point is 01:20:41 I don't know shit about fucking it. We talked to Q Rich in the last hour, and he told me about a uh a nikola jovic who is potentially the other yes he's serving it imagine if it was yokich and jovich that's oh jovich and yokich yeah that would be the potentially because denver is at 20 or 21 they could take him and they could have yokich and yovis okay so you're still in the nba, even though you're trying to transition into the NFL, because more people care. I've paid a little attention to it, you know, making sure I know what's going on.
Starting point is 01:21:11 But I'm not reporting anything. I'm just making sure I know I'm versed. Hey, where'd you play college at again? I don't think I heard you when he said that. I was at Seattle U for two years. They're now in the WAC. And then I transferred down to a D3 school called Occidental. Very small.
Starting point is 01:21:25 I was a very unathletic, undersized two-guard. Okay, those are two bad things, right? Two bad things. Guard arms. You gave massive effort, though. Massive effort. I was like a
Starting point is 01:21:41 very heady player. Coach's son. Yeah, first one in, last one out, hard worker. Fundamentally sound. Hey, we did some research. I do believe your family is part of my problem. Yeah, every time I watch the show, which is damn near every day, I'm wondering what is the drink that you're consuming there?
Starting point is 01:22:02 Okay, so I've made a change here lately. I used to be a green tea guy, too splendous, no liquid cane sugar. And there was kind of fuckery with Starbucks there where they would slip the liquid cane sugar in and you kind of thought, yeah, huh? Very sneaky. Yeah, let's fucking fix that, okay?
Starting point is 01:22:18 Did Jordan's dad start Starbucks? Yeah, I do believe. I do believe a pretty big part of it, right? That's your dad? Yeah, that's my pop. How did I not know that okay all right because i don't i don't talk about it i don't publicize it i just try to stay away from it but in this case obviously yes i'm gonna bring it up yeah that's why this show stinks so i do apologize for doing that but can you research yeah yeah can you please have them him the liquid cane sugar thing? Like that's a real problem I think especially in like a health drink and in some places it's an option some places
Starting point is 01:22:51 It's not an option some places it shows up some places it doesn't so I'm trying to get healthy and then for like the first Two weeks I was drinking that green tea. I went on it. I'm like, holy shit I'm drinking more calories than a goddamn diet coke right now like what? Sugar is the real problem. What's that, pal? The sugar is out of control in those drinks. Yeah, so no sugar, no liquid cane sugar. Two Splendas is what I used to do.
Starting point is 01:23:13 Give me the biggest green tea you got. Then, as of late, I've learned I could live forever if I drink coffee. So I've moved right over to, boom, give me your ice blondie or something like that. I need two Splenda's and a splash almond milk a lot more than a splash here maybe have a conversation with dad about that but this is it tastes delicious this tastes delicious pretty damn good I'll give you that yeah that's my drink as well ice ice latte or iced coffee put a little splash in there you get a low calorie but you also get
Starting point is 01:23:41 the caffeine it's a good play so you you were a part of the entire I mean Starbucks became the most popular franchise in the world right very quickly that kind of happened it was that yeah you know I'm 36 they went public in 91 when I was 5 and I say by late 90s when they went to Asia and Europe it really yeah exploded dad cool dude yeah say that again dad remained a cool guy like I feel like with that successful of a company very very chill dude he actually just went back about three months ago he couldn't stay out you know just when they pull me back in
Starting point is 01:24:14 he got he got pulled back in but no he yeah I mean honestly the the worst was the worst for me at least was going on the road in high school and college and the opposing fans. That was, I guess, kind of my favorite part as well. And we used to joke in the car rides home, especially in high school, they're getting more and more creative. You're going to have to come up with some new stuff. Yeah, Bucks rhymes with?
Starting point is 01:24:38 A lot of stuff. A lot of stuff. My favorite was Frappuccino Boy. That was a good one. Hey, Frappuccino Boy. That was a good one. Hey, Frappuccino Boy now would be very popular, I believe, because of how popular Starbucks has become. But back in the day, it was probably mocked and ridiculed.
Starting point is 01:24:55 Now everybody on Earth lives and dies with your dad's brought. Hey, congrats. Please extend our congrats to him. Good job, Papa. And I also like the fact that you're not piggybacking on there trying to make your own way. That is, I fucking enjoy that, and I have a lot of respect for that yeah i appreciate that i mean for me it was always about sports always you know and once i realized i wasn't good enough to hoop anymore this was the only thing i ever wanted to do and i i listen i appreciate you guys having me on i've been a lot
Starting point is 01:25:16 a long time fan aj you're playing days way back pat out you're playing days too yeah yeah fuck off hey tell your dad to buy a team. Josh Grimps, maybe the greatest special teams guy ever. That's a big deal. Thank you. Yeah, why don't you tell your dad to buy a team? Is that something he's ever looked into or sports? Or what do you think? He just wants to retire and disappear?
Starting point is 01:25:34 I think that window is firmly closed, especially for me. I can never let that happen. Why? Because I'm trying to do this. You can run a team with him. Got it. If that ever happened, would AJ or Pat be potentially interested in a GM position? If I can do it from Ohio as a consulting role, yes.
Starting point is 01:25:56 This fucking guy. This offered a general manager job. If you're the owner, I would love to come there and be the GM. By the way, if you want to buy any team that we potentially enjoy, we'd pick up the whole operation. Be a water boy. We getting this for free every day? Yes, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:26:14 All right. Deal. Send the contracts over. This thing has made me shit my pants. Did your dad talk about that? Coffee's a natural diuretic, so you're drinking too much of it. Oh, okay. All right.
Starting point is 01:26:24 I'll remember that. I'll try to slow it down it's too good your dad set me up go ahead connor yeah schultz josina anderson reported about the seahawks still have an interest in baker have you heard anything about that and would they take the entire contract from cleveland yeah i'm glad you asked because i was just talking to an assistant gm about this And basically the bottom line with Mayfield is he's old about 18.7. Would Cleveland take on a portion or a considerable chunk of that? The answer potentially is yes. Seattle now has Gino Smith and drew lock. I don't think either one is the future per se.
Starting point is 01:26:58 Both are well in Drew's case, still a pretty young player, but I would be surprised ultimately though, fellas, if Seattle went the Baker Mayfield route. I feel like they would have done it already. And I know Carolina's been rumored. Obviously, Sam is still there.
Starting point is 01:27:13 But to me, the Browns still need to figure out what's going to happen with Deshaun Watson. And ultimately, if they – I know Jacoby Brissett's there, but do they keep Baker Mayfield as the contingency plan should Deshaun be suspended for eight games, 10 games the whole season? But to answer your question in the vacuum, I would be very surprised if Seattle went the Mayfield route.
Starting point is 01:27:33 What do you know about the Mayfield situation in Cleveland? How'd that end so bad? When did it get that way? And should we have seen this in different times during the season last year? No, I think it progressively has gotten to this point you know two years ago he had a really good season and he was healthy and then last season everything went essentially into the dumps he cratered the offensive line didn't necessarily
Starting point is 01:27:56 protect him he had the shoulder problems he played through it it was just a nightmare but i think bigger than that fellas is the leadership or lack thereof yeah that's that's what I've heard and talking to not only players but coaches GMs there is a sense around the league that Baker Mayfield is still a really immature guy and even if he's healthy do you really want to deal with that in your locker room and from my perspective you know he he has not been able he has not been the face the leader of that locker room really since day one. He's never been able to get to that point, which has a number one pick. You would hope that happens.
Starting point is 01:28:31 AJ, is immature the same labeling as distraction? That can be, right? He's fucked then. You get labeled as a distraction or anything like that around the NFL, it's over. You can grow up though. Can he grow up? Like, Jordan, don't you think he could go? If he got the right opportunity, and he had a good year.
Starting point is 01:28:49 Obviously, when things are going well, guys usually behave and things seem to go pretty well in the locker room. Don't you think he can kind of revamp his career and his image? Well, maybe this humbled him, too, you know? I think both, yeah. I asked a couple guys, like, is he a bad dude or is he just immature? And it was more the latter. Like, he's not a bad guy, but he's just young.
Starting point is 01:29:09 Are there any examples, Jordan? Number one pick, and you go to the college football playoff, and all these expectations, you know, progressive commercials. He was kind of the face of the league before he was ready for it. You know, in the case of Pat Mahomes, who's a super mature guy, was not a number one overall pick. You know, he had time to learn under Alex Smith. I think in Baker's case, in his mid-20s,
Starting point is 01:29:29 yeah, there's still an argument to be made that he's a talented guy and he could still be a really good NFL player. You can win with Baker if he's solid like he was two years ago. But the distraction point, to your point, Pat, is a pain in the ass to deal with, especially when you're thinking about extending a guy long-term and giving him $100-plus million. He has not shown that yet.
Starting point is 01:29:49 Him ending up back at the Browns would be the most Browns thing of all time. Yeah. Everybody in Pittsburgh would be like, yep, this is Cleveland. This is – I mean, we knew he wouldn't be at minicamp, but the longer this goes on, you could easily argue that cleveland loses more
Starting point is 01:30:05 leverage and it becomes more unhealthy and ultimately if he is there and he is starting week one for example hypothetically how dysfunctional would that be and that would be pretty indicative of the jimmy haslam ownership listen it's only awkward if you make it awkward that is in every situation and since the beginning of time somebody told me that when i was in high school i believe it was Ryan Larman, because we were about to walk into a situation in which everybody in the party we were walking into hated us.
Starting point is 01:30:32 We knew it. The Larminator! Yeah, well, no, don't call him that. He didn't deserve that. He's a great guy. Ryan Larman, great dude. That family was very nice to me growing up. But we walked into some situation where everybody in there hated us. We knew it, and he literally looked at me right before i walked in i'm a couple years younger than him it's only awkward if you make it awkward like kid almost and then we just walked in there
Starting point is 01:30:51 and bubbly hey like we're supposed to be there and it just kind of everybody else just settled down and then we got to where we had to go and then we just kind of went through it and i've carried that with me forever because i think i was pretty scared to go into where we were headed. I'm like, this is going to end terribly. Like, this is not good for me. It's not good for my future. I don't think it's good for my face. It's about to get beat up, I think. I think there's a good chance.
Starting point is 01:31:14 Only awkward if you make it awkward. We go in there, and it was just like a quick, easy thing. And I've carried it forever because that moment should not have ended. Like, what we were walking into was a buzzsaw. And then how we approached it changed everything. Baker could do that with the Browns, just like the Browns could do that if they were to get back in there. Like, hey, bygones can be bygones.
Starting point is 01:31:34 Get humbled. I got humbled through this entire thing. The Browns, we didn't do exactly what we should have done and kind of move on. But that's going to be a lot that is going to have to happen here in a short amount of time when we don't even know how many days or games Deshaun Watson is going to be suspended and it turns out that's probably not going to come out for a little bit either that's that just feels
Starting point is 01:31:50 like a lot has to happen there and we're running out of time I think for everything don't you think Schultz 100% you're a month away from guys reporting I mean a month in preseason games start in five six weeks six weeks so it's a very short period of time. And to your point, I guess I would say with Baker, if he can find a way, let's say hypothetically, he stays in Cleveland to now make it awkward, as you said, and just pony up and say, I've made my, my share of mistakes. I know I'm not the quarterback of the future,
Starting point is 01:32:19 but I'm going to do everything I can right now to help us win games and get ready for the season. That would be a big testament to him. And ultimately, it would probably help his trade value. To me, to your point earlier, AJ, he's still a very young guy. And if he could somehow have the self-awareness that I think he has lacked, that self-awareness of where he's at, that would be huge for him. I hope he does that. I really do.
Starting point is 01:32:43 Schultz, there's that video that always gets played of him walking down that sideline and i i hate to mention this because i'm a baker guy i like baker i think he's been through a lot i enjoy watching him play i think last season was fascinating interesting looking along but every time somebody shows it from somebody that's been on the sideline a lot i mean in my position was to be on the sideline to watch the quarterback in a situation walk down the entire sideline, to watch the quarterback in a situation, walk down the entire sideline and nobody even look at him. Like nobody even look at him or talk to him. It's like, Oh, we should have known then like something. Yeah. Something's going on,
Starting point is 01:33:16 you know, like something. And then the OB, OBS stuff about OBJ and none of the teammates really came out to bat for Baker. They're almost like anonymous sources were like, yeah, like the way OBS is speaking is like how a lot of us feel. It's like, oh, shit, like what? How did we get here? And hopefully they'll be able to fix that if they have to for the good of Baker and for the good of Browns.
Starting point is 01:33:37 But the Browns is the Browns until the Browns is no longer the Browns. But it feels like the Browns is doing a lot of Browns shit right now. Go ahead, Tone. Schultz, I got to get your thoughts on you were a big help to the Browns, but it feels like the Browns is doing a lot of Brown shit right now. Go ahead, Tone. Schultz, I got to get your thoughts on, you were a big help to the draft spectacular because you don't work for any of the networks and you did not give a shit about tweeting out the draft picks as soon as they happened. Did you get any backlash from that or no? Because you're independent and you're going to be doing that tonight as well.
Starting point is 01:34:03 Tremendous, tremendous question. I did get some backlash i mean i was at espn for three years and you know this year i've been essentially on my own as you said and i did hear from the league office and they weren't thrilled and i made sure i was asking my sources hey is what i'm doing okay this is after the first round and all of them said yeah you're fine so i just said okay let's just let's go with it i mean fuck them by the way basically i i mean like the thing was i was hearing from players who second third fourth round up that were now saying hey what are you hearing can you give me intel and that was good because i felt like i could at least provide a service to them and i was able to tell guys you're gonna go in two picks you know
Starting point is 01:34:48 you're gonna go wow hey fuck the kids fuck them that are getting guys are getting drafted you help us out immensely like it's not your fault that you're getting that information and the network people who are handed a lot of connects are upset about it don't you worry about any of that schultz you gotta do your, and we appreciate you for it. I really appreciate you, fellas. And I was thinking about what you said. Remember in the movie Draft Day when Bo Callahan, nobody comes to his birthday party?
Starting point is 01:35:12 Yes. And that was the Browns, too. Oh, yeah. So, I don't know. I just thought, for some reason, I thought, it's like Baker. Nobody's talking to him. It's wild. Especially at that position, you're automatically the leader. To hear the things that have happened,
Starting point is 01:35:27 especially because they've had a little bit of success over there for the first time in forever, we'll all be intrigued to find out, and we'll keep our eyes on your Twitter account. Please tell your dad about the liquid cane sugar we all have, okay? I will. The last question for me is, out of the two of you, who's the best hooper?
Starting point is 01:35:43 Well, no question. I mean, okay. What's that? What do you do? for me is out of the two of you who's the best hooper well no question i mean okay what's that what do you do body me down low you think you're just oh no i mean i was point guard oh yeah of lenicism oh really your knees are so bad though like my knee also bad but oh yeah i mean yeah i feel like death i'm standing out and draining threes on you because i'm not cutting that's not a point guard well that's what i'm saying though like one-on-one you're not gonna be able to move i can move a little bit right i mean i can yeah i would I'm not cutting. That's not a point guard. Well, that's what I'm saying, though. Like, one-on-one, you're not going to be able to move. I can move a little bit, right?
Starting point is 01:36:06 I mean, I can. Yeah, I would. I'm not going to play you one-on-one, but I would. You can't dribble. Walk like Frankenstein. I can't dribble. Okay. Look at your hands, dude.
Starting point is 01:36:13 How would you do that? That would be tough if you're able to dribble. Come on. That is so unbelievable. The thing about AJ, ran a 4-4, had like a 40-inch bird. Yeah, great athlete. Great athlete. If this guy, you see the guy with the mullet,
Starting point is 01:36:28 if he glued his hand to a counter at Starbucks, would you knock his head off? If he was protesting milk. All right. You're correct, dude. Subpar athlete, so. You played college basketball. You're a stud athlete, man.
Starting point is 01:36:44 Absolutely. Seattle U, dude. Let's go. Go Red Hawks. Go Red Hawks. athlete so you played college basketball you're a stud athlete man absolutely seattle you dude let's go go red hawks go red hawks are they still a team barely we're barely a team yeah well you left you said i'm going down d3 out of necessity because i wasn't playing oh okay i respect that i love the hustle love the grind we thank you for what you do on the internet you're the best ladies and gentlemen jordan grind. We thank you for what you do on the internet. You're the best. Ladies and gentlemen, Jordan Schultz. Thank you. Are we even allowed to talk about FIFA because the amount of terrible money they have definitely taken in their pockets? Is FIFA still around?
Starting point is 01:37:15 Oh, those sports washing sons of bitches. Of course they are. Yeah, their president said, watch out, NFL. 2026, we'll be number one. That is not the case. Not in America. But you have a great summer. That is not the case. Not in America. But you'll have a great summer. And we dog walk
Starting point is 01:37:27 Mexico and we're ranked below them in the FIFA World Rankings because FIFA just takes money from everybody and just gets paid off. Denmark sucks at soccer. How are we not top fucking five? Is FIFA like the NCAA or what are they? Yes, exactly. That's a great comparison of who FIFA is. Okay. I don't know what
Starting point is 01:37:43 they run. Do they just run the World Cup? That's it? They run soccer. Yeah, let's call it cup. They run like all of soccer. When I was growing up, it was FIFA regulated. Like the refs were certified through FIFA. Like the PA West was the organization I was a part of. They were a FIFA organization. So FIFA is the federal, no, international football something. Whatever. So do they have any say in like what ronaldo is doing on his normal team uh no the rules isn't that by the lead the club leagues
Starting point is 01:38:15 but the leagues are probably sanctioned by fifa by fifa okay i could be wrong but i don't think so really i thought we've had hand well if building soccer. If they're doing the United States regions. These are youth leagues, though, so FIFA might just run the youth leagues. I don't know about the big leagues. Soccer's a big cult, so I can see that. What'd you say, pal? Soccer's an absolute cult. It can be at a young age.
Starting point is 01:38:41 It is all-encompassing, that soccer. I was on the road for fucking like five, six years straight. FIFA governs all facets of the game, regulating the rules of play, overseeing the transfers of players internationally, organizing international competitions. Yeah, yeah. It's the video game. They've been known to not, you know, take dirty money at all.
Starting point is 01:39:01 Yeah, they don't care about anything. Aren't they in jail? Yeah. SEP ladder? The previous president was having a press conference, dirty money at all. Yeah, they don't care about anything. Aren't they in jail? Yeah. Except louder. The previous president was having a press conference and somebody walked in and just started throwing hundreds on him. You remember that? Oh, I saw the pictures of that.
Starting point is 01:39:12 Yeah. Yeah. And the new guy, I assume, is just a disciple. Joining us now is our soccer expert, straight out of the FIFA Academy of Soccer Smarts, currently being detained in Canada because he was deported from America, but love might bring him back our friend Goopy yeah
Starting point is 01:39:32 Hey, how's everything going? Yeah, you got a little glow to you right now You're right you awesome. You're right. You're right. I think you're doing... Where are you staying, Goop? There you go. On the bush.
Starting point is 01:39:57 There we go. Got it. That's where Jordan Schultz was. He was out in the bush. Yeah. You're out in the Canadian bush? We got a couple bush calls today. The bush brothers.
Starting point is 01:40:05 It's hot out here. I got a pool and such. It's nice. Oh, look at you living. Are you having any guests? There's been a few. Hey-o. Oh, well, we don't have to dive into that.
Starting point is 01:40:14 I don't want to fuck anything up. Oh, I know. Just some lads that come drink beers. Yeah, a couple Bud Lights. Found some Bud Lights. What? What? That's good news.
Starting point is 01:40:24 Out there in the bush, you found some Bud Lights? Did somebody ship it to you from here? No, I found a couple Bud Lights. Found some Bud Lights. What? In Canada? That's good news. Out there in the bush, you found some Bud Lights? Did somebody ship it to you from here? No, I found a nice little spot. A few bars have had them. Just not very many, my friend. Oh, you drink them dry. Yeah. I'm going to need all your Bud Lights cold.
Starting point is 01:40:37 What? Yeah. I'll take every one you have. The gumpy train is coming through. Congratulations. Hey, real quick. FIFA runs everything? Is that like those Premier League and all that?
Starting point is 01:40:50 Are they involved in that as well? Or is it just international play when it gets to adults? Just international is UEFA. But the thing is, U.S. moved up. What did you say? Let's go back to the beginning. UEFA is Champions League. FIFA is all national. What'd you say? Let's go back to the beginning. UEFA's Champions League, FIFA is all national.
Starting point is 01:41:09 So that's the difference. International, sorry. Okay, so FIFA runs all international shit. Like when I was growing up, FIFA certified. Refs, I think, were our refs. Our league was FIFA certified. They do youth shit and then the international stuff. Yeah, but U.S. moved up. So I don't know how is Mexico ahead of them.
Starting point is 01:41:26 That makes no fucking sense. Well, because FIFA's full of shit. Fucking Denmark. They stink. Even Canada. Canada made the World Cup. They're 43rd, so where's that? Well, you guys stink, though.
Starting point is 01:41:38 Like, that is so... Yeah, your players don't want to play. Yeah, that's probably... You guys aren't even going to play, I don't think, because your government decided not to pay them. That is true. You make a valid point. Hey, FIFA's like the most corrupt of most corrupt, right?
Starting point is 01:41:50 Oh, yeah. This fucking, how this World Cup is even happening is the most absurd thing of all time. Like, I don't know how the live shit, like everyone's like bashes the golfers, taking guaranteed money. The fucking World Cup has never been in December ever. Like, how did this happen?
Starting point is 01:42:11 How did we get here? Who was there, though? Goon. Who was there to hold them accountable? Is there anyone overseeing FIFA? Oversight committee. No, that's why Seth Blatter. So Seth Blatter had like a fake heart attack when he was supposed to fucking take the stand.
Starting point is 01:42:28 Him and Snyder went to the fucking same school. Oh, what a move. What a play. My mom sent me a text earlier, and she was like, you know, five years ago, a lot of people attacked you for not taking your guaranteed money, and now they're attacking athletes for taking guaranteed money. Isn't that kind of fascinating? I'm like, oh, it is interesting how everybody picks and chooses things. But FIFA, like, long known as a very corrupt organization oh yeah the worst like
Starting point is 01:42:50 i said the the world cup in qatar tells you everything you need to know about like let's see how their numbers are too their numbers might not be as good because summertime there's nothing going on well we are just meatheads though because it's football season yeah yeah but when's like the final like a sunday afternoon no it won't be sunday they'll have to do that middle of the week yeah yeah the time the time will fucking be huge because i think it'll be during the day so the numbers will still be all right but don't like look at like hold on we're like their numbers are going to be real, too? Don't underestimate their arrogance. They might roll a championship game out on a Sunday.
Starting point is 01:43:30 Well, that would be us overestimating our arrogance, acting like they wouldn't go on a Sunday. I think they'll lose America. They don't really care. What network's carrying it? It's a Sunday at 10 a.m. ESPN. Perfect. Oh, nice.
Starting point is 01:43:38 That was great before. That's a Sunday right there, boys. Look at them. That's smart. December 18th. December 18th. That is so insane that the World Cup is in there, boys. Look at Tom. That's smart. December 18th. December 18th. That is so insane that the World Cup is in December, man. We could have had it this summer with nothing else going on.
Starting point is 01:43:53 Yeah, it would have been 200 degrees there, right, Cup? Yeah, so that's the... But they understood the weather of Qatar when they awarded them the World Cup, correct? Yeah. I don't think they did, actually. I don't think they took a single trip to Qatar. They just heard the amount of money they were going to get if they move it to Qatar. All in favor?
Starting point is 01:44:09 Aye, aye, aye. Opposed? That's what we... Shut the fuck up. Nobody? Let's move on. What about the bodies? Well, that would happen afterwards. Who cares? That happened afterwards. We'll just move it back four months. Who cares?
Starting point is 01:44:23 Why they're using those sea cans for the stadiums because that's how they sent all the fucking money. That makes sense. We thought that was the case. We're happy that you know a lot more about this and you're right on the same page as us. How'd you feel about Goodall's performance yesterday, pal? What do you want from the guy? Goodall. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:44:39 What the fuck was that? What a travesty. As soon as I saw a seaspan I knew we were in a terrible spot. Is that how Canada operates, too? Is it one big shit show up there? I mean, there's some stuff coming out now about, I mean, it is. Trudeau? Trudeau's trying, I mean, I ain't fucking diving in.
Starting point is 01:44:58 Yeah, yeah, smart, smart, smart. He's already. You saw what Ryan Whitney did, what one American former hockey player did to the entire parliament. He said, hey, Trudeau, you muppet. This is what Whitney said. All parliaments are always a joke. Yeah, he's trying to step in on social media now. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 01:45:16 You just said you were going to stay away from it. Yeah. That's what's happening. Turned your hat back around. Yeah. Like Sylvester Stallone. Hide the face. Over the top. All right. Like Sylvester Stallone. Hide the face. Over the top.
Starting point is 01:45:25 All right. Enjoy yourself. We miss you. Can't wait to listen to Hammered Down. A couple of the big parlays in the office last night. Fucking boys are buzzing. Fucking Brucie mustache back. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:45:38 All right. Let's have a giveaway here. PMS. PMS. PMS. Power. C-SPAN? No, we lost power. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:48 Power. PMS. Power out. Power out. Power. Power surge. Power. PMS surge?
Starting point is 01:45:57 PMS. PMS boner. What? PMS AJ can't dribble. What are you talking about? You know I can dribble right in. PMS. PMS. PMS. PMS. PMS. PMS. PMS. PMS. PMS. PMS. PMS. PMS. PMS. PMS. PMS. PMS. PMS. PMS. PMS. PMS. PMS. PMS. PMS. PMS. PMS. PMS. PMS. PMS. PMS. PMS. PMS. PMS. PMS. PMS. PMS. PMS. PMS. PMS. AJ can't dribble. What are you talking about? You know I can dribble right in. Gumpy boner? Is that what you said?
Starting point is 01:46:09 Fucking internet. PMS gumpy boner? That was your suggestion? Gumpy apostrophe S. Yeah, apostrophes don't work in hashtags. Let's stay away from Gumpy's dick trending before we get him back to America, please. PMS big brain? We'll please. PMS Big Brain. We'll go hashtag PMS.
Starting point is 01:46:27 Par. Par. Par. Par. Par. Par. Okay. I don't know, Goop.
Starting point is 01:46:34 We'll get that when he gets back to America. Now is not the time to have his penis all over the place. Evan Fox will shoot 50 free throws. Ooh. Okay? He will shoot 50 free throws. Okay. He will shoot 50 free throws. How many will he make? Use hashtag PMS.
Starting point is 01:46:52 Power hour. Have that in there, your cash tag in there, and say something nice to somebody. Okay. And you will automatically enter to win. And if you get it right out of 50, we will then randomly select from there 10 winners of $500. Let's go. Perfect. Say something nice to win. And if you get it right out of 50, we will then randomly select from there 10 winners of $500. Let's go. Say something nice to somebody.
Starting point is 01:47:09 Say something nice, AJ. All the time. Goopy, you look great. I love what you're doing up there. I can't wait to get you back in the States. I gotta tweet it. You're doing great, Pat. You're gonna kill it this weekend, Friday in Austin. Keep up the good work. Let's go. Thank you, AJ. Very nice of you. I gotta tweet it to enter. How many out of 50 is he gonna make? Oh, Evie? Friday and Austin keep up the good work let's go thank you AJ very nice you got a tweet at tenor
Starting point is 01:47:25 how many out of 50 is he going to make oh Evy talking to me you talking to me I got a lot of faith in Evy he's going to make 42 of them that was my guess damn alright we will post the video
Starting point is 01:47:41 and announce the winner use hashtag PMS POWER P-O-W-E-R All right, we will post the video and announce the winner. Use hashtag PMS. Power. P-A-W-E-R-H-O-U-R. And have a great three-day weekend. We will miss the hell out of you. And tomorrow night's SmackDown in Arch Manning's new town.
Starting point is 01:47:57 Let's go. Austin, Texas. Can't wait to be down there. We'll see you guys Monday. Have a great weekend. Gumpy, we miss you, pal. Miss you, boys. Good to see you.
Starting point is 01:48:05 Enjoy your weekend, huh? Hey, you too. Hammer Don's in like 15 minutes at youtube.com forward slash hammer down. Can't wait for more winners. I hope you guys are taking quite a victory lap today. You deserve it. Hell yeah. Big thanks to Ice Cube.
Starting point is 01:48:17 Thank you, Cube. Sorry, Cube. Let me just shut it off right in the middle of that conversation, AJ. What happened? Do we know? All right. All right. Some bum flicks. Quentin Richardson, thanks for your time. flicks point richardson thanks for your time jordan schultz thank you for your time and on monday we'll have the biggest show of all time
Starting point is 01:48:31 oh yeah see you then goodbye so The The name Zahra means ''Pure'' Religion ''Muslim'' I'm not a bad boy, I'm out. අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි The name Zahra means a lot to me. The name Zahra means a lot to me. I'm out. Thank you.

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