The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 695 - Feel Good Thursday with Darius Butler, Alec Pierce, and Ice Cube

Episode Date: June 30, 2022

On today’s show Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys throw you into the 4th of July holiday weekend. Pat kicks off the show jumping into the latest news and life updates while soon welcoming on former teammate and friend of the progrum Darius Butler to chat all things going on in the NFL and swap football stories (0:19:22.000-0:48:04.163). Pat then bring on Indianapolis Colts second round rookie wide receiver Alec Pierce to talk about his time in Cincinnati, transitioning into becoming a pro and expectations for the upcoming season (1:07:31.627-1:26:54.021). Our very own Coach Sirriani comes on the show from his house today to clear up some rumors going on in the street. Pat closes out the show with a great conversation with Ice Cube as their last one was cut off short because of a power outage, as they continue their conversation about The Big 3, Ice Cube’s basketball leauge and his new role with the NFL (1:41:08.724-). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show and listen on Sirius XM Channel 82, Mad Dog Radio. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you next week, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people. It is Thursday, June 30th, 2022. A nice sports show on the internet and radio begins now. Let's ride into some sports talk before a four-day weekend for your boys here. This fucking guy. Still fighting his way. Still fighting his way. Still fighting his way. Bruce, it was getting louder after I started talking. I mean, hey, you're doing... There you go, Bruce.

There you go, Bruce. One's a two's Brucey. Bruce in the back. He's doing great at a lot of things right now. And if you ain't redlining, you ain't headlining. Bingo. DJ, let me... Vice said that, obviously.

And Bruce, you've been crushing it. No worries. We'll start dancing. It's like shifting a gear in a car between the stick and the clutch. It's a little bit of a give and take here. We will find our groove like myself and at Nick Morata, who used to run the audio of the show, who's sitting at the toxic table because Ty Schmidt just had a baby, have worked together so fantastically at Boston. Connor, the other member of the toxic table.

And one half of the hammer died. Cowboys town. Diggs is here zito foxy sitting in gumpy seat because he was literally the only person sitting out there especially after intern left for a six-day week actually sorry 17-day weekend uh dirty good to see you back in the building uh we appreciate you. I believe Bruce had your microphone muted. Yeah, he did. Welcome to the jackpot, Bruce.

We are in the middle of the hot seat. Let's dive into it. There's really nothing new happening in the sports world. There's just been a continuation of previous stories that we've had to talk about for months now, it feels. Speaking of months, June is basically over already. Whoa. Hello, July. Hello, Fourth of July weekend.

And I know there's, you know, a lot of people on the Internet, a contingency of people that are saying that we shouldn't celebrate Fourth of July. I'd like to say that it is a happy birthday, America. America, not a perfect country. I hope we are getting better as a country. But I have been fortunate enough, lucky enough to ride the coattails of other people to successful positions where I've been able and afforded the opportunity to travel the world and see other countries. And whenever you're in other countries, I'm going to be honest, it's hard not to say, I wish I could get back to America. I know it isn't the pristine country that we all hope and dream for it to be. And one day, hopefully it will be. And I feel like

we are running towards those times, but I do believe that our country serves a good purpose in this world. There's a reason why there's issues with immigration and border because our country is still a beacon of light around the world to a lot of places. Even though if you live here there's a lot of ability to pick apart a lot of things that are done and decisions that are made and we all get pissed off about it but But I do believe there should be a little bit of a celebration for the United States because we are very lucky to live here and I think if you've ever traveled the world

you would agree with such a thing. It's not perfect. Hopefully it will be someday. But I hope everybody has an incredible four day weekend. People saying we shouldn't celebrate July 4th? Listen, Tone, with your cowboy hat and the accent that we have no idea how you picked up. There is people.

You're right. Not everything's perfect, but, I mean, we could still be England with poor teeth. Yeah, teeth. Brushing off teeth with rocks. Yeah, especially now that we're coffee guys. So we can celebrate that at least. Yeah, we can. And also we can celebrate the good that has come from this country over the years.

And, obviously, there's other days for us to pick apart decisions and things that aren't great with this country. And I think that should happen because I think whenever you're watching film or you're trying to get better at something, you have to acknowledge the bad and see what the bad has done and then in the future not make the same mistake. And hopefully we get to that point here in the United States. But I'm assuming there's always going to be fucking assholes. I'm assuming there's always going to be bad decisions made. But we can't let that drag all of us down, because I feel like a lot of us, all of us, the majority of us here,

are basically on the same page with most shit. Now, we come from 50 different countries. In Europe, the size of states are different countries, full borders around them, different languages in some place. Here in the United States, we're massive. People that grew up in Miami are not going to be able to see the world the exact same way as people that grew up in Pittsburgh. Just like people in Southern California, in Portland, and then the fucking Rockies in the middle. Everybody's going to have a different perspective because of the backgrounds and the things that they've gone through to get to the point that they are. But I feel like a large majority of Americans, even though it's always headlined by the doofuses and assholes, a large majority of Americans want the same thing.

That's respect. That's hope. That's opportunity. And I hope every single day we continue to drive towards that for literally every single human. And happy birthday to the United States of America. And that's why I will, you know know chug a brew or two for the red the white and the blue who this weekend. What we should do is go to D.C.

on July 4th and maybe bury the film of the last couple years. The game ball. Here we go. Put it behind us. Bury the ball. Yes. Put it behind us. MCDC. Yeah but I feel like the last couple years have in different spurts in different parts of time

have proved that hey we're all pretty much on the same side yeah and then boom something happens it's like yeah now we gotta go now we gotta go against each other all of a sudden because we're a better person than you have to do half that yeah it's literally like butch these people are just losing their mind and then something will happen and perspective will get put back into place and it feels like everybody's like yeah yeah yeah we can all do that and then once again it can't help itself but boom I fucking hate you I knew you were a piece of shit this whole time

and then again things come together we're all on the same playing field we're all going through the same thing together oh my god this all stinks for everybody oh we're actually seeing a little bit of progress and then boom something happens and it's like da da da, da, da, da. So we just got to remember that there have been moments over the past couple years where we have seen our country at its absolute worst. But I do believe there are some moments where we've seen our country at its absolute best, too.

And we have to remember that as we go forward. And I am an eternal optimist. And I assume at one point in my lifetime, I'm 35. I lived hard back in the day. Who knows how long I'm going to live. But I think at one point in my lifetime, we will see a, hopefully a harmonic society here in the United States of America. Yeah. Well said.

Well said. It's going to change the last few years. Because I don't think celebrating Fourth of July is saying, hey, we're perfect. Yeah. No. It's more so what. a truck driver who has been very lucky to experience pretty much every socioeconomic status there is in the United States. I have a lot more empathy for a lot of people in different positions than people that are maybe born in one step of the ladder and haven't really experienced

it. So I've been very lucky to experience the life in which I've experienced it, where I've, you know, smoked blunts with dudes from Compton and drank wine with billionaires. I've said that before, but it's real. I'm very fortunate to see a lot of people's side. So when people are, like, pissed off, I'm like, I understand. I completely understand. And then when somebody says they're reasoning, that doesn't mean that I don't disagree.

I disagree with a lot of fucking things that are said and done by people. that I disagree, I disagree with a lot of fucking things that are said and done by people, but I feel like I've gotten a behind-the-curtain look at why some people view something some ways, and I am very fortunate for that. I've been the only Caucasian at numerous cookouts. I've been the only white trash person at some galas. I mean, I have, I've been very lucky to seem behind the curtains at a lot of things, and I just think we all have a lot in common, and I think one day that will all fucking shine through every single day. I hope, I hope, instead of these fucking doofuses that, you know. Do you think, Goodell, Commissioner Goodell, do you think that this is a proper use of taxpayer money?

What we're doing here today? Are you asking? Roger Goodell, speechless for the first time. Are you talking to me? Yeah. I don't think it's my job to talk about what taxpayer money. You're right. It's not.

So let me use this time that we have in the middle of everything going on in the world right now. A lot. We are more, I don't want to say woke, because that is such a tired word right now. Aware. But we are more aware of everything going on in the world because everything is in our hands. Yeah. So all of the world's crises, we are seeing, acknowledging, and realizing at a rate that we have never had in the past. So whenever you do see something like that, I can appreciate whenever a politician says, like, with all the shit we got going on, we're worrying about fucking Roger Goodell and a guy who's currently parked his yacht at Napoleon's Island.

We can assume that that guy is a problem. But why are we doing this? And it's all a shit show. But we got to remember the shit show of politics has nothing to do with the majority of us humans. And I think we're getting a couple of steps closer to that every single day we go by. Anyways, we are a sports show. So let's start diving into the sports. Hot dog eating contest right around the corner.

Oh, now we're talking. Hey, here we go. And the man that does the introductions for those that are eating in this hot dog eating contest on ESPN on 4th of July is worthy of a conversation. This is maybe the greatest ring announcer in the history of ring announcing. Really? Now, Samantha Irvin, WWE Smackdown Friday night. She's very fucking tight. She has pipes.

Yeah, tops here. I mean, she has pipes. And she has pipes yeah tops here i mean she has pipes and she has like a singing voice so whenever she intros people you hear that come out and there's like different it's like holy fuck very talented very talented and uh old cuzzy with the ufc who worked big bruce buffer bruce buffer he has great pipes does an incredible job we got nothing but respect for him the other buffer who they found out after years and years and years and years and years of life that they were actually related, and the pipes were the thing that kind of brought them together. Did not know they were family members whenever they were growing up, though, getting into the profession.

Just two different paths. Seems wild. Then they go, this is 23andMe, and it turned out they were not related to that doctor in Indiana. Thank God. Thank God. A lot of people were. But they were related to each other via their father or something like that. So whatever the case,

they are all incredible. The Fink. Howard Finkle. Great. Legendary. OG. When you watch this 4th of July hot dog eating contest,

the introduction is a show. Yeah, got a star. And it deserves to be treated as such. ESPN kind of rushed it last time. They had the camera on the person he was introducing, and he was giving 45-second to minute introductions of every one of them. So they're sitting there uncomfortably and awkward. Let's know that we got a star in the intro game,

and let's go ahead and build some content around that. And let's know that Indiana native, Indiana citizen, Joey Josh Chestnut's going to fucking break the record. Hell yeah. Let's have a weekend. SummerSlam. Money in the Bank. I'm sorry.

Not SummerSlam. SummerSlam is one month from today. Here we go. Now we go. 31 days. Around the corner. One month and a day. It's coming real quick. Real quick. A lot of time, though. A lot of time. Money days. Around the corner. One month and a day. It's coming real quick.

Real quick. A lot of time, though. A lot of time. Plenty. Money in the banks this weekend. UFC 276 is this weekend. The hot dog eating contest is Monday. And we are 70 days away from NFL football.

Let's go. This is the time of your life. No big deal. What are we on Monday? On Monday, we will be 9, 8, 7, 66 days away from NFL football. We will not be live, but you will have to put out a good American 4th of July. Oh, yeah. Absolutely.

66 days. Mario Lemieux days away. The big guy. Maybe. He's not American. Or a football player. Yeah, maybe a football player. There's no 66s.

Shane Lemieux plays for the New York Giants offensive line. Boom. 66. So maybe a Lemieux plays for the New York Giants offensive line. Boom, 66. So maybe a Lemieux wearing 66 on Monday. With Mount Rushmore in the back with fireworks and, like, an American flag. Yeah, okay, perfect. Maybe an eagle. Maybe Chestnut eating his 66th hot dog.

Because that could put us 66 days until NFL football of him eating the dog. Happy Fourth of July. Yeah, but if anything, like last year, there's a chance that the broadcast cuts out and we actually don't see him eating the 66 hot dog. Hopefully not, though.

Hey, different year. New year. How about them setting themselves up for failure because the ticker was just rolling. Yes, still going. Ticker, no problem at all. Screen frozen. Can't see a goddamn thing.

So, now, I don't know where they do that at. In New York, Bruce, where does that take place at? That's on C coney island so like the very end of brooklyn okay the very end of brooklyn and it is is it by boat or is it its own it's uh it's more of a it is a beach and there's like uh the cyclone like a roller coaster type deal it's like a boardwalk experience and there's a massive uh nathan'smortar hot dog stand, and that's where they do the contest. Okay, so it's not an island then. What is Florida?

Peninsula. So this is County Peninsula at the end of Brooklyn? Yeah, essentially. It's kind of like a pier. Is it a pier? Yeah, yeah. It's like a boardwalk. You can take the subway.

It's like the last stop on the subway. See, in my head, the reason why the tech wasn't working was because the island was off. That would make more sense. They had to send the things through the way. It's not my head, the reason why the tech wasn't working was because the island was off. That would make more sense. They had to send the thing through the water. It's not, though. It's walkable. It is a peninsula or an archipelago.

Sure. Group of islands. Yeah, that's my favorite land formation. Like the Galapagos. The Caribbean. I like a good mesa, personally. What's that? It's like a plateau, almost.

Almost like a mountain, but flat top. Shit ton in Arizona. What, that was like one month of our education. You remember that? I remember. Figuring out how much water was on each side. What's the shape of it? Trick questions at places we'll never go to or remember ever.

That was a whole like, that was like a month, month and a half of my life. I feel like that was right in our fucking house. What's that? Yeah. Geography was... That was something you could look at and learn. Geography, bull shit. Eighth grade, no big deal.

Belize, still use the information. Belize, second largest coral reef in the world, Don. Largest? Great area for now. Australia. That's right. What are you saying? Unfortunately.

Tone heat. Tone. This is not a tone. No. This is not a tone. No, this is not a tone thing. Fourth of July weekend. I know. We did have quite an existential crisis this morning regarding stuff like the barrier reef and climate change. Tony and myself

actually, I think just us two. What are you guys talking about? Are you living in your fears? We know. We put over under on civilization slash the world 10 years. Oh, so you are living in your fears, right? We're not living in the fears. Thriving in the fears, maybe. 10 years.

What's this whole thing? I just gave a whole speech about how in my lifetime. I know. With the aliens and we got a fucking food crisis. By the way, the aliens people are going to have to just swallow a lot. The people that are super anti, they're sightings every night now. Yeah, it's bad. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

They're everywhere right now. And there's a reason the government decided to release some of the information. Like, I think we should get in front of this. Seems like they either got drones, that they are coming here on a very regular basis all of a sudden. What does that mean? What if they're coming here and saying, hey, listen, we need your coal and we need your oil. Have you seen? There's a chance.

West Virginia opened back up. Yeah. Fired up. Their planet has chance. West Virginia opened back up. Yeah. Fired up. Their planet has run out. They just sent some people over. They need our shit now. What is it about? I don't know.

Have you seen the movie Independence Day? So, first of all, that just made me think about... It's a good weekend for it. ...a great song. Willard. Yeah. Yeah. Oh. A great song. Willard. Yeah. That was a banger.

You remember on that one song? Boosie? Yeah. Hell yeah. That was before Boosie went to jail. Yeah. Then Boosie came out and Boosie has become an internet icon. Still crushing.

Absolutely living on the internet, doing it. But I do believe I've seen Independence Day. Will Smith saves the world. And your guy, Jeff Goldblum. Mostly Goldblum, but yeah. What does Will do? Will does something. He does like the Men in Black thing, but he shoots the thing.

Yeah, he crushes. All right, let's move on to some sports. Anyways, it does feel like you two need to stop living in your fears. This show is a mental vacation as we live forever. They're creating stuff for us to live until we're at least 200. Yeah. Yeah, okay, so let's keep it going. That's definitely for us.

Not for like Elon or Bezos. 200 years old? What a nightmare. Yeah, you always say that super negative stuff. I'm drinking this because I want to live forever. Keep drinking it. You're going to be waking up with poop in your bed every night when you can't control your bowels anymore at the age of 140.

No, that's what this medicine's about. It keeps the bladder together and the butthole tight. I hope so. It actually says, butthole tight after 120. Take this pill. Good luck. B-Ti-12. What are you even talking about, dude?

I'm sick of all this shit. Hey, I hope this is the case. I'd love to live to 200, but man. News via rap and... Puberty? P? Yeah, puberty. Medicine that could let humans live to...

Puberty is a great account. I enjoy it too. What are we doing? We're taking meme facts again from Connor? No, that's a checked meme fact. He's doing bullshit meme facts. These are checked meme facts. Mine come via grape juice, boys. Medicine? Exactly. Yeah, it's a checked meme fact. He's doing bullshit meme facts. These are checked meme facts. Mine come via grape juice, boys.

Medicine? Exactly. Yeah, it's different. And what's that other guy who's got the diamond tester? That's your guy. Oh, I love that guy. That guy's a superhero. Speaking of living till 200, that guy's living till 200.

What's that guy's name? Does any of us remember this guy's name? No. I didn't even think he had a name. I thought he was just like a character character and he doesn't actually have anything. There's a Malibu's Most Wanted type guy on the internet. Currently Caucasian guy with

an oversized grill. He has a crown. He has more diamonds and jewels. All real. He showed up in my Explore page and I'll tell you what, I spent a good two, three hours on this guy. And he got that diamond tester on his thing every single time. It's real do we have his name this guy's name uh i wish we could he's a superhero we should give him a little

respect anyways let's move on to some sports i mean what it'd be cool to go through that guy's profile now but no no no we can't spend the whole is he diamond tester kid he might be tiktok user is he tiktok no no it's instagram i sent it into the group yeah it's got like 90 000 followers on i have a little respect this guy's the next big thing yeah he's a dog the absolute dog all right 20 minutes in now we'll start uh the show we are currently in the middle of up to something season it is in full swing and uh i'm very excited about i'm pumped about it. It's not just for me and, not just for me personally, not just for this show, for things in this office as well.

Hey, there's a lot cooking right now. Umbrella. Let's go. Let's enjoy this entire thing. Let's live forever. Let's go. Let's not have conversations about the world and civilization ending in 10 years.

No, please not. I'll be 45. I'm just hitting my stride when it comes business-wise. Guess what? We live more than 10 years. I'm happy. That's right. Good expectations. There you go. It's like Y2K. Everybody was dead. Y2K. And then when 2001 hit, they were worn off

the perspective that they thought they were going to die the year before. You know me. Big expect the worst. Joining us now. Well, you shouldn't do that. That's just how I keep myself happy, Pat. Hey, whatever keeps you happy. Thank you. Happy 4th of July. Happy 4th of July.

All right, joining us now is a friend of the program. Hell yeah. Man who played in the NFL for nine years. Host of the Man to Man podcast, Everything DB. Can't wait to hear his thoughts on everything happening around the NFL. Ladies and gentlemen, Darius Butler. Yeah, D-Boy! Yo.

What's up, fellas? Hey, how are you? Y2K was scary as shit, too. I remember that. I do, too. We all thought we were dead. I was a little kid. We went, there was a little, um... There was, like, a Y2K party. So everybody, who do you want to die with? Well, certainly not this party, but I guess this is where my parents wanted to go.

Did you turn the lights off at midnight? What do you mean? I don't remember. I did. It was a cool trick. Oh, it's thinking everybody thought you were dead. Everyone celebrated not turning the lights off. Gotcha. Frank Roldan. He was pissed.

Jesus. I remember that. That was a real deal. People thought everybody was dead then, D-Butt. That was worldwide, I think, at that time. I think it was worldwide death at that point. Well, it depends on where you were at, you know, because some people were ahead of us and they already knew, hey, everything's all right.

But I thought once that shit hit 2,000, the computer was going to be fucked up, everybody's money was going to be gone. I thought everything was bad. I had a whole high school career in front of me, man. I was a little distraught. But, you know, it seemed working out 22 years later, a little scary right now.

Well, that's literally what led us to this conversation. Connor and Diggs were sharing their emotions to each other earlier in the office, I guess, about how they give a projection of 10 more years society exists. I'm like, Jesus. I hope not. You need to not be so negative and stop living in your fears. Let's move on, D-Butt.

You look fantastic. Great to chat with you. Kareem Hunt chit-chatted about the Deshaun Watson, Jacoby Bursette offense that they have. Overall, Hunt did acknowledge that waiting out a decision on Watson has been stressful on the team and organization overall, considering it's hard to know what the offense will look like while awaiting a possible suspension for Watson. Yeah, it's definitely stressful for them, he said.

It's tough because they're trying to figure out what pieces they've got for the season and what plays they want to put it. You know, there's different plays for Deshaun, Jacoby Brissett, different playbook, different things we can do at quarterback. Jacoby, although the Colts had him running for, like, goal line stuff, he's not as – yeah, he won't take the set shot. Deshaun Watson can move a lot better than Jacoby Brissett can. So we assume Kevin Stefanski would take care of that.

The interesting combo there I think that everybody will take from it, not to mention a Baker Mayfield at all. So we're on the outside looking and going, well, if they suspend Deshaun Watson for a season, they're paying Baker. Maybe Baker will play. And everybody's like, nah, the fence has been mended. But maybe, maybe. He didn't even allude to that, Darius. That offense is moving on.

And what are your thoughts with Jacoby as a quarterback for a portion of the season next year in that roster? You think they'll have a chance? You think they'll be in position if Deshaun comes back late or not at all next year yeah I think uh I think Andrew Berry has done a done a great job building around that quarterback position um so that whoever comes in there you can still win games obviously you got your defense but offensively you invested a ton of money into the offensive line you got one of the best back fields behind you brought in Amari Cooper. You locked up

your tight end, David Njoku. He's done all the right things around that quarterback position. It's not like Jacoby is just some slap trying to figure it out. Jacoby's been around this league for a while. You can win with Jacoby Brissett playing quarterback, especially if he's going into

a season and they're having two different game plans you got one game plan for Brissette to be the guy so at least for eight ten possibly twelve who knows how this whole Deshaun Watson thing is ultimately going to play out but I think both sides are moving on you know from the Baker Mayfield situation now if it is a situation where Deshaun is out of there indefinitely or for a year, maybe it's a different conversation there with Baker Mayfield. But if I had to place a bet right now, I would say Mayfield is starting for another team come September.

You think week one he's starting for another team, yeah? I think week one. I mean, there's still teams out there that he would be a big upgrade. You know, obviously Seattle and Carolina would be the two that jump out. Maybe even the Giants would be a team that he can play on. But some people around league circles don't think he's mature and all these other different things. But he's talented.

He's a healthy quarterback, and I've been sitting on his show for months. I still think he's around that 20, top 20 range type of guy. Now, you said, what, top five that first time? Yeah, top five. Do you remember you said Banker was top five? Right after D. No, you said what? Top five that first time? Yeah, top five. Do you remember you said Baker was top five? Right after Darnold, I think. He said,

Baker definitely better than Darnold. Motherfucker, Baker top five. Top five. Top five. I stand on that. Huge upgrade. Big upgrade over Sam Darnold. I will stand on that.

Golden Tate has come out and to your Giants point, he said he feels incredibly bad for Daniel Jones. Just list it off like, I feels incredibly bad for Daniel Judge just listed off like I honestly feel bad for Daniel Tate uh told New Jersey Advanced Media on Wednesday okay of course he was drafted into a rebuilding organization for one had Pat Shermer for a year and then got Joe Judge for two years now another head coach and another rebuild going into his fourth season

he hasn't had Saquon, Golden Tate, Kenny Galladay, Sterling Shepard. No one is ever on the field at the same time. And then on top of that, he had the clapper, Jason Garrett as his offense coordinator, and that probably didn't help much. That is from inside the building. Golden Tate is now playing baseball, I believe, and he's having success at it. He was in there for a couple of years with Daniel Jones. I know this is kind of like the Sam Darnold thing, right? With the Jets almost. Have you watched a film on Daniel Jones and do you think he is just a product or do you think his ceiling is nowhere near as high as it should be to be a starting quarterback in the NFL? I mean, he's talented. Obviously, you don't get drafted that high if you're not,

but he's got to be in a situation like the Browns. You know, you got everything kind of built around. He's not going to make the team around him better. He's not going to make whoever's out there on the field. And he's just going to make them better players, make the offense move, win games because of Daniel Jones. He's just not that player. He's super athletic.

He can make plays with his legs. But just his consistency, the only thing he's been consistent with is turning the ball over, unfortunately. Fumbling the balls, doing things like that. And as a quarterback, that's number one. Take care of the damn ball. So it's been tough on him. And he has been dealt a bad hand.

But when you get drafted high as a quarterback, that's the case for a lot of players. So I can't say I feel bad for him necessarily. But this should be a good team. You got Brian Dayball coming over. You saw the jump that Josh Allen made throughout his early career with Brian Dayball as the OC. So with Dayball running things for Daniel Jones now, maybe we get the best

version of Daniel Jones. Or maybe Tyrod Taylor's in there. Maybe they make a move for Baker Mayfield. Who knows? But they gotta do something out there in New York. The only thing he has really been consistent at is giving the ball to another team. Yikes. That is a fumbling, man. I don't

think I've ever seen a quarterback fumble the ball as much as Dan. And hit his over-rushing yards. Hey, he always hits the over-rushing yards because he's scrambling doing his thing. He has a lot of Carson Wentz in him, but a lot of people say he was forced to because there's no offensive line, no real weapons. they're in turnover. There's a lot of excuses, right, when things don't go well

for almost everybody. When did you come to the Colts? 13 or 12? 12. Lux rookie year, yeah. So that, I think, it's going to be hard, I guess, for us to have a real judgment on a lot of things. I watched Andrew take a team that was very

injured on offense, the side of the ball brand new offense literally nobody knew the offense we had turnover all over the place and andrew like put a cape on almost and fucking carried that team as a rookie and it was like oh this is a guy and then some people are like that some people aren't some people take some time to develop into that what they say payton didn't win a playoff game for six years or something like that Michael Jordan didn't win his first championship till like year seven or something like that but in the world that we're in now especially in New York if Daniel Jones gets any time uh like any more growth time it's going to continue to get ugly I think publicly as a perception for him well maybe Dave Balkan

tournament and Josh Allen I, that'll be big. That'll be a big task. But Luck was, you know, he's one of those rare, that's a rare find. He was different. It didn't matter who was on offense, who was blocking for him, who he was handing the ball off to.

You had a chance to go out there and win every Sunday. He was special, man. He did that from his rookie year. And then every year, you know, you saw him add things on and get better. He took a step in the playoffs every year, and then obviously he started getting banged up and couldn't keep him out there and staying healthy.

But Luck is different. And, you know, you see a lot of Trevor Lawrence is another player who's kind of been put in that class, you know, the Peyton Manning, the Andrew Lux. But it's tough. It's tough. Every position in the NFL is a dependent position, including the quarterback. You've got to have good people in the front office.

You've got to have good coordinators calling plays. You've got to bring in talent. You've got to have a good defense that can stop somebody and get you the ball back. So it's a lot of things that are at play. And it's rare that you find a guy like, you know, Andrew Lux or Cam Newton on the top of the draft that can really turn things around. How about a good building, too? I think you need a good building. Like, I think you need it to win in the NFL, don't you?

Because everybody has players. It's like, how do you consistently win? I think you need, like, everything. The culture is not just the locker room. The culture, I think, is the entire building. Do you agree with that? I agree with that for sure. I mean, you got to like, we spend more time with each other than we do our families throughout that stretch. Once you check in for training camp, like everything

is built around football from there until February. And so you got to like those guys that you're spending all those hours with. And if you like the guys you're playing next to, you play harder for each other. You trust them more. It's a lot that goes into playing obviously the game of football. And you can see, I feel like you can see good coaches from a mile away. Like the Ravens, for instance, is a great coach. The Bills be a great coach, regardless of what's

going on outside of the building or what's being said about who. You can tell those guys got each other's back from the top down. And culture also is about communication. How streamlined is that communication from the top down? That's why the Patriots dominated for so long, because the message was never changed from, you know, it was craft,

then you got build, and then build makes sure the message got, the same message got from the top down to everyone. So that's very, very important. Obviously, everyone is talented. Everyone has talented coaches, talented players, draft, free agency. Everybody has all those same things. But the culture is the difference a lot of times. Hey, transparency is such a good way to build trust,

especially in the modern world. You know, a little vulnerability, a little, hey, this is what we're thinking. This is why we're doing it. I think that's why a lot of the younger coaches and younger GMs seem to be having a little quicker success with the modern day athlete i enjoy watching businesses piece together what they think is going to be the right mixture though you know yeah and then like you said from a mile away i think you can you could spot a you could spot a bad decision maker from a mile away too it's like oh somebody's making fucking bad decisions over there this

little decision led to this decision. And once it starts seeping in, it's over. And then you get the coach to start kicking the kicker. That's right. Lawsuits. I was going to ask you guys. You've got to be able to empower other people too, man, like good leaders and decision makers.

That doesn't mean you're the smartest guy in the room. You shouldn't even feel like you're the smartest person in the room when it comes to every decision you know somebody knows marketing somebody knows sales somebody knows this somebody knows that and you got to be willing to listen to those people empower those people and that goes with your players as well sometimes you may come in with a game plan and if freaking jordan poirier comes in and say hey coach now this ain't this we should do something completely different this week because of xyz Y, Z. That's a conversation you have as opposed to saying, nah, we're going to do it this way because of boom, boom,

boom. So it's a lot that goes into those things. You should definitely empower people to make their decisions and if they know the deal. But if numerous decisions they have made is not great, also take that into account. I think a good leader has to do that. There are some people in this office i will go directly to on a piece of information and i know they're the right

person to ask because maybe in the past i've asked other people and uh haven't got the answer that is the right one so it's like if i have a tech issue i might have used to go to connor hey connor what do you think and connor would give me a straight-faced answer, and it would be 100% wrong, but he would step right in the batter's box and take a massive hack. Well, I think if you just connect this to this and this to this, that's how it works, at least. Yeah, I just Googled it. It says that's it.

And then that's why I'm like three, four times straight, and you're like, okay, so I'm going straight to Zito every fucking time. Hey, Zito, why is this happening? And Zito's like, let me figure it out. I'm like, thank you, Zito, because Connor just put us in a little bit of a rut. Now, that did not happen three to four times

because I'm not that big of a stooge, but I think that is a real thing that has to happen and it happens in NFL buildings all the time

and even the smallest decisions, you know, clothes, practice schedules, where you're going to travel, when you're going to travel, how you're going to travel, food,

like, there's just so much that goes into a season. I don't know if it gets talked about how vast it is and how many people have to fucking really do their job well for your team to succeed. And some of those buildings, I don't think they put enough respect on it all either,

and they're going to suck forever. I think they're going to suck forever, Gary. You can definitely apply the role of people. You see those coaches who get a bigger job or a bigger role, and it's like, oh, shit. And so, you know, I obviously love Chuck. Chuck Pagano, we talked about Luck coming in as a rookie and making those steps in the playoffs.

That doesn't happen without a coach like Chuck either. But I remember towards the end, you know, me and Coach Pagano would have a lot of conversations. He would always go back, man, I just miss fucking calling defense, man. I just been in there with the guys, dialing up blitzes, doing that. And all those things you talked about, now the head coaches are in all those conversations and decisions. And some of them are like, man, I just want to do what got me here,

the football stuff and the other stuff gets in the way. So, yeah, I'm with you there. A lot of shit that goes into the entire season. And how do we get through it as smooth as possible with as high of a success rate as possible? And everybody's trying to figure it out. And there's only been one team for 20 years that was able to do it. That's right.

But just like D-Butt said, they had it figured out. Well, they're already back. Yeah, it's easy to figure out when you've got a guy that can throw a football to the moon. Well, he's already back. And he's currently on the yacht right now. You know what I mean? Go ahead, Tony. Based off of that, and we, he's a runner, baby. And he's currently on the yacht right now. You know what I mean? Go ahead, Tony.

Based off of that, and we were talking about it earlier, it was a literal shit show last year. Can you judge Trevor Lawrence at all off of his rookie year? And then also, when you guys traveled during the summer, did you bring your helmet and pads with you to work out wherever you guys were traveling? Well, there was this one time I went to Monaco. You're talking about Russ Wilson. Go ahead, D, my star, man. Beautiful backdrop. Gorgeous. I went to Monaco and you're talking about Russ Wilson go ahead D-Bus

beautiful backdrop and Russ is different and I told you guys he's different I saw him in Vegas at a hotel and he literally had 4 or 5 he had team 3 with him working out in a hotel in Vegas

it's a different level of dedication obviously his budget is a little different. I'm sure he's traveling with, you know, full, whatever he needs, but shout out to Russ, man. Obviously never got themselves a winner, but what was the first question you asked Tom, sorry? Trevor Lawrence's rookie year. Trevor Lawrence's rookie year.

Can you judge it at all? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's hard to judge that obviously with Urban Meyer being there and he obviously was not the right person to empower and put in the head coach position and make a bunch of those decisions around the building. But looking at Trevor Lawrence in his on-field play,

he just kind of looked like he was a tick behind. And you see that a lot with a lot of young players, quarterbacks as well, and even when you're that highly regarded. So I think with Doug Peterson coming in, he'll make a huge step in his second year. You can still see the talent there. He still has the arm strength. He still can make the throws. He's still athletic as hell.

But now you've got more weapons around him, and you've got a quarterback whisperer, as they call him. You saw the step that Carson Wentz made from year one to year two. So I think we'll see a big difference in Trevor Lawrence and his play on the field. And probably even him as a pro off the field, too. It's a lot that comes with being a professional quarterback. Obviously, you played corner, nickel, and safety in the NFL. So you know the secondary very well.

I think I have said this time and time again here. I got a chance to watch your football IQ on display and basically every team meeting we had every season, it was unbelievable. And it's because the film study that you have. There, whenever you said Trevor Lawrence is like a tick behind, that is directly a DB film room. That's what

you guys are waiting on, right? That is exactly what you're preying on. And that comment that you just made isn't abnormal for a young quarterback but it is something that'll fucking ruin your career if you continue to do so right yeah definitely not abnormal but you gotta you gotta grow from i'm sure he did a lot of self-scouting and it was so many distractions outside of the building um down there you know obviously you guys know people down there i know people down there it's just you can't have that

going on in a professional environment when you're going out there every Sunday competing against the best of the best. So, you know, I think he has – not I think. I know he has the talent to fix those things. And that's all between the ears. It's all about feeling as a quarterback, as a player in the NFL, to really make plays. But especially as a quarterback, you've got to anticipate things.

You can't wait for guys to come open. You can't see a coverage and then decide, OK, no, people always talk about reading coverages. You can't get into a middle of a step and read a coverage 30 times dropping back. The best quarterbacks, they know where they're going to ball 80 percent of the time before the ball is even snapped based off what they see across from them. So as a DB, you're going to try to take advantage of that. You're going to show them different disguises pre-snap. You know you have an ability to make plays on a lot of balls last year that you may not have the same ability this year.

So I'm excited for Trevor Lawrence getting Peterson out there, getting his guy back there too, Etienne, who will be a dump-off guy who can do things out as a receiver and a running back. I think they did some great things in Jacksonville this offseason. That's so fascinating to think about how pre-snap, that's why Aaron and Tom and Peyton, pre-snap, they're snapping that ball at like three seconds, four seconds. I mean, that is two seconds, one second.

They are trying to get as much of a read as possible on what you're about to do. And then they know, okay, I'm going here. So I'm going to look this way for the first, probably drop back of this whole thing. And then this should be wide open. And that's when it's like, they have to have so much fun doing that. Like, think about Aaron's,

how much fun do you think Aaron has just being like, oh, these guys trained for fucking 40 hours this week. And I just, I know exactly what they're going to do. You guys, like that has to be so much fun how long does that take for guys you think and is is there anything defenses can do if a quarterback has a great read on the D yeah you got to take because you're going to mess up nobody's perfect but when they do mess up you got to take advantage of it like Patrick Mahomes is a great example of that he's a guy that his talent is just unbelievable.

But he's going to give you a few opportunities to game. And you got to take advantage. You can't drop a pick that 15 throws between your numbers. Because two, three plays later, he's probably going to make a 50-yard play on the money. So a guy like Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, you know, these guys have just seen so much over and over and over and over again. Like, as a player, they're not even necessarily playing, you know, the number of the jerseys that are out there. They've seen these coordinators grow up. They know the coordinators, like, what system they're coming from.

What do they do different from, you know, whatever old coordinator that it's taken from. So they're playing a different game. Lady H. Quarterback. The good ones are playing chess. As a defense, I was talking to my young guy the other day about this. As a defense, if I'm a defensive coordinator, I got 11 guys out there. Most of them, eight, nine of them maybe, I want to just play checkers.

Just know your assignment. Be where you're supposed to be. Don't mess up. Do your job. Do your job. You got two, three players on your defense who may be playing chess as well. You have your Tyron Matthews. You have, maybe it's a T.J. Watt, a Mika Fitzpatrick, whoever it is, they're playing a different

level of football. And those are the guys that make those crazy plays week in and week out. So you got checkers players, you got chess players. To be a good quarterback, you have to be a good chess player. You may be doing things in the second quarter that you're just setting up for maybe a two-minute drive that you're going to need at the end of the game. So that's a different level.

And these guys, I mean, they've been doing it for so long. It's special to watch. That's why Ed Reed and Troy Palomalu and them, I mean, there's a play call, I guess, but they do whatever thealu in them. I mean, there's a play call, I guess, but they do whatever the fuck they want. I'll see it. I mean, fucking Troy. Why? Troy, so his instincts

were unbelievable. Yeah, I'd say D-Bot. Ed Reed, he made a play on Peyton, actually. Yeah. That's the epitome of playing chess because Peyton is coming out saying hey I'm going to look here then go there. And then Reed knowing okay

we're playing single high. I know Peyton's going to go here. I'm going to go here so to make him think that his look got me and then get back there. So it's levels of that shit. It's not for everybody but it's special and fun and exciting to watch as a fan. I think one of my favorite stories

about that type of shit is Ray Lewis and Peyton Manning's relationship with each other. They get along very well, and I assume it was because of Pro Bowl, and they had drinks together, and they learned about each other. I actually watched a game, though. I think I was there, or maybe it was a highlight I watched. I don't remember. It might have been right toward the end

of Ray's career in Indianapolis. I don't know if I watched the film on the internet or not. Peyton's telling Ray, you only have 10 players, right? You only have 10. He's literally looking around. You only got 10, Ray. You only got 10. And Ray, like, in the middle of this thing, like, timeout.

And then he starts counting. He's like, fuck, yeah, yeah, we do. Because that is, it's Ray versus Peyton in that particular game. They both, like, have talked about it. And then you got Ed Reed in the back doing that thing. So you've got Peyton in that particular game. They both like have talked about it. And then you got Ed Reed in the back doing that thing. So you got Peyton having to read Ray and then Peyton and E.D. Reed, the best safety you ever seen

fucking doing that. It is awesome. Like that's the level of football that I hope that we continue to get to show whether it's NFL films or anything like that because that clip of Travis Kelsey and Patrick Mahomes, that was from the Super Bowl. I think it was our AFC Championship game. AFC Championship game where it's like, hey, if we do that again,

I'm going to go. I'm just going to go as opposed to it coming in what it says. And then needed it play, fucking go to some improvisation that they decided and dissected from the – it's like there's fucking geniuses out there on that field. And I don't think it gets talked about nearly enough. Always the coaches are super smart. It's like, no fucking geniuses out there on that field, and I don't think it gets talked about nearly enough. Always the coaches are super smart. It's like, no, no, no.

You got some fucking Einsteins of football out there on the field that can run 22 miles an hour as well. It's an incredible thing. Like Gronk. Gronk's another guy. They say Gronk's football IQ is just fucking stupid. What is that from, you're thinking? How can you, like, what does he do that maybe is a football IQ thing

as opposed to just Bill or Tom making the robot gronky run to the right spot? Well, yeah, Ben with Tom obviously is huge. Because when you're a smart player and you're around other smart players, they're going to see things that you don't see. Cup Stafford. Cup Stafford. What's that? Cup and Stafford, by the way.

We just saw it. You said when smart players are around other smart players, like that's a fucking, yeah. Cup is another quarterback out there, and he knows exactly. It's not just he's definitely not playing checkers. He's playing chess. So you got two chess players on the same page. You can't, if you run a zone coverage against Cup and Stafford,

Cup is going to catch the ball. He's going to win. You just have to try to disrupt him and make a play against him. But a guy like Gronk, even as a young player from probably his first year, coming into that offense, you had the game plan to stop 87. You had to know. So as a player at 87, he's seeing that every week in practice, every week on Sundays.

So you have to play a different game. Same with Randy Moss was there or Wes Welker was there. They knew every defense was going to have a plan for Wes welker on third down so you have to do some julia edelman you got to do something different so you have to think on a different level and your iq is going to come in and be that much higher then you got bill belichick um you know obviously who he doesn't just teach the defense side of the ball like that was probably one of the only places where, as a defensive player, you got taught about how offenses saw the game defensively. Like, you knew why a young quarterback would get under center, being 11 personnel.

The coordinator would give him two plays. If you got a single high safety eight-man box, check to the pass play. If you got two high safety, check to the run play. Like, just to its simplest form. You understood it for a minute, two minutes differently. So, you know, that IQ, if you're willing to learn, and as a pro, that's all you – it's your livelihood. You should be able to learn.

You should come in those conversations, come in those meeting rooms where it's not like college or high school. You're just sitting there listening to a lecture for an hour for halfway falling asleep. I'm coming into meetings on Wednesday, on Thursday, with some input, some questions on the game plan, and we're talking about this as coaches and as players. It's like a master's degree in football all of a sudden. That's why.

What's his record against rookie quarterbacks? Like 20 and 4 or something. Listen, this ain't that fucking hard. We're going to show a single safety. Yeah. Okay, he's going to check to a throw. Then we are just dropping out of the box. Now we have two safeties. Then we're going to do that for four quarters, and this quarterback is going to check to a throw. Then we are just dropping out of the box. Now we have two safeties.

And we're going to do that for four quarters, and this quarterback is going to be completely fucked. Next year, we might see a different quarterback. But until then, this is what we are going to do, and we are going to win all of the Super Bowls. That is what we are going to do. Connor, your question for Darius. Yeah, Zach Wilson actually had three completions and four interceptions

in the first half. He was seeing ghosts. Yeah, he was seeing ghosts. But, D, but speaking of, you know, the rookie quarterbacks, like how much of an advantage is it for Mac Jones having Belichick being able to kind of show him the way? And also, is it odd that he's spending this much time with the offense? A lot of players are saying it's the most they've ever seen him kind of be

with the quarterback and that involved in the offensive game plan. Yeah, I mean, it's definitely different. Like I said, he talks to the team, just everyone on the team, more than any other coach that I've been around. And I was there. Bill O'Brien was the OC. Tom Brady was the quarterback, co-OC. So he didn't have to spend much time on that side of the ball.

You know, when the offense is on the field doing their thing, like you barely hope. Belichick was with us making adjustments on the defense talking to maddie p talking to pepper whoever and going over our game plan so it is interesting it's definitely different and odd uh the situation that new england's in uh this year but you know you obviously don't want a second guess bill but you know four or five games into the season you know if shit's not going right you got a second year quarterback you know people may be looking games into the season, you know, if shit's not going right, you got a second-year quarterback. You know, people may be looking around a little bit.

And Bill, I trust as far as now. But it's definitely – they're definitely in an interesting position right now. The last six games against rookie quarterbacks, the Patriots have given up nine and a half points. Yeah, no big deal. No big deal. It's just not fair. It's – yeah.

You know, it's just not fair because you can just, you can do so many things on, the biggest advantage that a defense has is that we can move, all 11 guys can move pre-snap. So if I can show you, or shit, I can just feel like you can't make, your guys aren't good enough to beat my guys in man coverage. So, and then when you, as soon as you think it's man coverage,

I drop eight. So it's tough. It's tough for a rookie quarterback, a young quarterback at all going against a guy like Bill. Hey, that's the unseen ghost comment. Yeah. Just being like, what the fuck is going on out here? This is not what it was like at BYU at all. The fuck?

Davis Mills scored 22 points. Something to think about. Stanford Brain. Yeah. Dougie Mills. We've been, even as a Patriot, I remember, because as quarterbacks, you're getting that blender, too. You're getting in one of these quarters.

Drew Brees, I remember we went to the Dome as maybe my rookie year, maybe 09. And Drew Brees, you know, he was just in a rhythm. He had us figured out. He had us dialed up, and we were looking at each other crazy on the side it was no we could do to stop him uh and indeed uh going up against big ben a couple times but one time vividly he tore us up in pittsburgh and then went on and did the same thing uh against baltimore so like sometimes these quarterbacks man because they see so much and when you have what happens to most football players is as the game slows down, your body slows down as well.

The quarterbacks is obviously different. So your brain continues to speed up and process things. And your body, if you take care of your body, you know, like these quarterbacks that play forever are doing your everyone else is out there. If they're smart as you, they're probably a lot slower. You are. And you're a quarterback. You still got a good arm, and you're a coach on the field, it can get ugly. D-Bud, I appreciate this conversation today, man. This is fun. I feel like we learned a lot about the football. Appreciate you, man. Appreciate

y'all. Hey, no problem. Have a great weekend, huh? You too, man. I'll take care. Hey, what you up to, man? I won't tell nobody. Fuck off. Ladies and gentlemen, Darius Butler. Yeah, D-Bud! Let's ride back into the show. The talk table is here at Boston Corner. Nick Roto is sitting in.

What the fuck? I talked to him about this this morning. I heard him. I literally just did a full event diagram of what we were doing. You can tell he didn't understand, though. Timing's off. It's there. It's just did a full event diagram of what we were doing. You can tell he didn't understand, though. Yeah. Timing's off.

It's there. It's just like a rookie quarterback. It's all right. Hey, Bruce, you're okay. You're dancing. Just tick late. He's getting picked off. Trevor Lawrence.

Exactly. Making me look like an asshole, Bruce. No, it makes you look better. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it depends on how, if you want to like. Job security. Yeah, exactly. Not a good teacher, just a good, you know.

Well, maybe he's a bad teacher because he's a bad mentor doesn't want to hand over all the keys maybe maybe it's a bad student maybe it's a great teacher and a student unwilling to listen no that can't happen in 2022 coach be a coach that'd be accountability well there's also a lot of teachers that stink that refuse to say oh i'm a fucking terrible teacher either i agree but it ain't me well it sure feels like it's you. Bruce, maybe you coach a little better, right? Tomlin says, oh, this guy's hands don't get inside. Tomlin, let's coach him. There also comes a point where you know this guy

ain't going to make it, and you've got to cut bait. And when we know, everybody knows. I don't think we're there yet. I'm starting to feel yippy back here. Oh, man, he's got the yips? You already have the yips? We need the juju swing. We need the juju swing.

We need the juju swing. Too fast, too slow. You're only too fast one time and that's because you just shut it off. Can you drive a manual vehicle? No. Not a chance. So have you ever rode like a no. A dirt bike?

Have you ever shifted a gear of anything? Yeah, yeah Okay, so when you shift a gear It's just like an easy You know, like one of those You're kind of trying to find the gear You're trying to find where it catches Lift and push

So yeah, you gotta kind of That's all you're trying to do Here's my voice Here's the music Once the beat drop Music goes down Voice comes in Boom, now we're on the other way

Look at this Gone Holy fucking roll gas Drop. Music goes down. Voice comes in. Boom. Now we're on the other way. Look at this. Gone. Holy fucking raw gas. Alright, let's run one. Let's run this from the start here. Bruce, by the way, there's no such thing as yips, pal. That's right. There's only whether you're going to do it or you're not going to do it.

And you're too damn smart. And that's too good of a mustache not to do this properly. From the top, please. Hour two of the show. One. Hello, beautiful people. Hour two of this glorious Thursday, June 30th, 2022.

Sports Talk begins now. Let's ride. It's a glorious day to be alive, especially in the sports world. There's a man on the ones and twos named Bruce. I mean, what are we doing back there, Bruce? Jesus Christ. What the hell was that? What the Bruce?

We just told you what to do. You're fucking Brian O'Connor the first time he got into a car, dude. Yeah. So he's waiting for the let's ride. I just saw it on his do. You're fucking Brian O'Connor the first time he got into a car, dude. Yeah. So he's waiting for the let's ride. I just saw it on his hand. Fucking double clutching granny. It's the beat drop. It should be just about done by the time we say that.

So let's ride. Let's ride. We're out. We're not going to tell you. We're not giving you the fucking answers. Not zero after the let's ride. After the beat drops, you just start slowly taking a clutch shot. And then bam, we're into the gear.

Okay, here's you. Remember, this is you. This is my voice. Beat drops. Ooh, boom. That's right. Okay. I mean, so just.

All right. All right. He's on coach. He's on coach. We got to get reps. We got to just get the reps. Come on, Bruce. You got this.

One. Welcome back to the Pat McAfee Show here on this glorious Thursday, June 30th, 2022. Hour two sports talk begins now. That's right. That's right. It's an absolutely joyful. Okay. Not bad. Too fast. Too fast. A little fast. It's an absolutely joyful game. Not bad.

Too fast. Too fast. A little fast. Too fast, but not bad. Better. Step by step. At least you got the concept that time. Yeah.

Now we just work with the concept. Bingo. This guy's going to be on the other side of the world. Hey, when you're over there, think about it. All right. Just think about it every once in a while. If we're Tomlin coaching Bruce, then Bruce is Mason Rudolph. Whoa!

It is time. Whoa. Are you with the guy? Great. This guy's currently getting bonked in the head by Lambda, it feels like, over there. But, Bruce, I'm proud of you, pal. You're doing a lot of great things. Don't let that one thing that happens every hour on this show in very public kind of ruin the mood.

You're starting to get it. We appreciate it. Zito's back there. Obviously, Foxy's back there. Dirty in the room sitting in Gump the mood. You're starting to get it. We appreciate it. Zito's back there, obviously. Foxy's back there, dirty, in the room, sitting in gumpies because there's literally nobody else out there. Mitt's back from the hospital. He's got a patch on.

Billy's here. Boston Conner's here. Nick Morata is here. Ted Diggs is here. And live from Attica, Ohio, a man who's a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup champion, COVID survivor, private plane survivor, A.J. Hall. Yeah, A.J.

What's up, A.J.? Luckily, I was connected for this. When you got to rerun the intro, and it just goes to prove it. I know Bruce hasn't driven a manual transmission, but if he drove like you should with both feet, he would know how to feather that brake. Just saying, Bruce. If Bruce was

driving a manual or with two feet, he would wear down your brake pads so... It's like... Doing burnouts. It just takes reps. It just takes reps. We're watching them.

It's getting worse. Watching that clutch get burnt up as we speak. It takes reps. It just takes reps. We're watching them. It's getting worse. It is. Watching that clutch get burnt up as we speak. Yeah, the clutch is, you know, he's got a little herky-jerky, and if he's riding the brakes like you do, I mean, that thing would be red light on the back end for the entirety of gaining speed somehow. But nonetheless, Bruce, you're doing great.

AJ, great to see you, pal. Four-day weekend coming up. Let's go. Wow. Yeah, big holiday coming up on Monday. That's right. Fourth of July, obviously, on the other side. Let's go. Yeah, big holiday coming up on Monday. That's right. Fourth of July, obviously, on the other side. Got Money in the Bank on Saturday in Vegas.

UFC 276 Saturday in Vegas. Fourth of July on Monday, which means Joey Chestnut is obnoxiously throwing hot dogs and buns down his gullet on Monday on ESPN. It's an exciting time to be alive, AJ Hawk. It is. So, like, how many in a row has Joey Chestnut won at this point? All of them. Now it's just records. Well, it used to be old buddy.

Like, you used to think old buddy couldn't get beat. What's his name? Kobayashi. Is he still competing? I think so. Do you ever watch that documentary about those two? They kind of tried to make Kobayashi babyface and Joey Chestnut heel in that thing. But nobody really.

Anyone who wins as much as Chestnut, younut, they're going to make him a heel. Yeah, people like to throw rocks at things that shine. Shout out to Taylor Swift. But, yeah, Joey Chestnut's just competing against himself at this point, I think. Is this his full-time job, or does he have, like, another gig? He's a professional eater. I think he's sponsored by numerous places. He does shrimp cocktail here at St. Elmo's every year.

He does wings every year. He does a bunch of stuff. Like, there is actual, like, I think there's things that he's better at, like his bread basket. Is there a tour? Like, is there a tour that he goes on and competes against other professional eaters? Yeah, professional eating tour was something.

A league, I believe. It was a league. And they do, like, whether it's, like, watermelon some. There's, like, ice cream. There's shrimp cocktail. There's pizza. I think there's, like, everything. Burgers. There's a bunch. I'd like. I think there's like everything. Burgers.

There's a bunch. I'd like to see him and AJ eat eggs together. Dude. No, I want to know. I want to challenge him in shrimp cocktail. How many does he put down? All of them. You'll die.

You'll die. Yeah. You'll be dead. I'll get a good test for my system. I know you micro-dosed yourself into not being allergic to the shellfish that is shrimp or any shellfish in general. And for that, we're incredibly proud. Way to go. you created microdosing before it was super cool he ate 18 pounds of shrimp cocktail in eight minutes from st elmo's and that isn't just regular shrimp cocktail this is the shrimp cocktail that if you accidentally breathe while eating eyes are

watering yeah sinuses are draining out of your face It's like a famous thing and he 18 pounds in eight minutes of it. Just absurd. Just crying his eyes out, probably feeling disgusting. But he has that mental competitive stamina, the will that he's not gonna stop. We watched him drink 13 pints of beers in a minute and seven seconds. I mean, yeah, and then he pukes right away or what? No. Should have.

Should have. In the league, you can't. I think it's like there's a certain amount of time you have to hold it. But on that particular New Year's Eve that he did that, probably should have. Because all that alcohol that was in those pints of beer also just came running through shortly afterwards. And Joey Chestnut was awesome on New Year's Eve, I will say. So Kobayashi had won six in a row. And then Joey Chestnut knocked him off

and then won eight in a row. And then 2015, I think it was, he lost to a guy named Matt Stoney. And then he's won six in a row again. Yeah, 2015's almost a decade ago. Where did Stoney go? The best I never was, it sounds like. Well, Stoner, just like Stoner,

fucking ended up on the IR way too soon. And everybody thought his hopes and the optimism of how great he could be 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, boring and somebody knocked him off and it was like whoa whoa another hot dog on the shoulder maybe you know what i mean i think there is a chip eating contest as well sure but i think the that kind of built uh hey i'm back in this thing i'm a champion he is he has a special talent he can control his gullet you know what i mean yeah they train for that don't they like i saw in that documentary they're training by chugging water and trying to eat stuff to expand their stomach right full-time joey just a full-time eater so he just feels terrible all the time no he's probably awesome all the time he's a champion yeah he's a fucking champion american hero what the hell are you talking he's from indiana he lives in indiana though full time oh nice yeah he moved here made some delicious hot sauces as well oh yeah what happened to his hot sauces they're still

around are they yeah oh yeah they were the store've seen them. I bet he gets recognized all over America, honestly. It's a household name. Fourth of July, you're spending it with Joey Chestnut for the last, what, eight wins, then six wins? Fourteen out of the last 15 years, he has won, and everybody watches. Do you ever think about getting into, are you a good eater, good eater, bad eater? I'm not a great binge eater like that, no. If it was grilled chicken and rice.

Oh, forget about it. That'd be awful. That would be not fun to eat for a competition. He's a steak guy now. Oh, yeah, you're right. He likes the red meat. I'm not into either one, but I'm not into the competitive eating. Yeah, this isn't a thing.

I'll eat either one, but right now for the last three months strictly, I've only eaten steak for every single day and every single meal in my life but yeah i'll eat it how do you like it cooked what's your what's your temperature deal medium medium or less than that i don't care i mean i i can eat a pretty red pretty bloody i like uh as i've gotten into more steak eating in my life i will go obviously lighter and lighter cooked i think everybody kind of does that right i mean that's what they try to say like if you go into a nice steakhouse and say, make it medium well, like a lot of people are offended by that and say, oh, you can't do that. I'm like, well, all right, you can, though.

You're here, you're paying the money. My wife, I'll tell you what, she will disrespect a place. She is not scared. She worked at a very nice steak place here in town. We'll go to somewhere out of town, and it's like a big steak place and we ordered it medium or whatever and they overcooked it uh can i get ketchup please sam just a fucking burial hell yeah that's a burial to the chef in the back hey you made this a burger and i'm like sam jesus right she's like well this thing the only way i'm gonna be able to eat this without burn it is is if we put a little sauce on i'm like the chef is gonna come out here

and she's like well i mean what do you want us to do good and she's like i would like to eat the steak that we're paying for and i'm like sam i respect it and then there's been one time this has only happened like four times uh but there's been one time the chef came out and asked if everything was okay and and sam was like well i mean this is very well done i don't know how i'm supposed to eat yeah normally they'll hate you if you try to say, I want it medium well. They won't cook it medium well. Yeah, so I think this person gave us the fool.

It's a new chef. We apologize. This is not our standard. Chopper makes a special sauce. Every steakhouse he goes to, he asks for Worcestershire, A1, and ketchup. And he sits there and he whips it together at the table. I love that.

If it tastes good. Like, shouldn't the chef just want the food to taste the best for the person anyways? Yeah, how it is that's like djs that say no requests please oh the worst i don't take any requests dude all right a lot of wedding djs probably shouldn't take requests well and some wedding djs don't have like simple songs that everyone loves like country roads or something oh man i mean that was quite a moment i but i should have given a heads up beforehand well i should have given a heads up beforehand. Well. I should have given a heads up beforehand. You got Mr. Brightside back there, buddy? Jesus. I don't know.

I am a fan of, you know, DJs that are open to the environment. Yeah. Because, hey, the patrons this particular evening might not be the patrons that you thought it was going to be. And maybe it's time to adapt a little bit. I am never the person that wants to put in the request. Like, I'm not doing that. But I do know that there's people in almost every friend group that I have, like, from everywhere. It's like, oh, this person has a good playlist.

Hey, this person put together a good playlist. No offense, DJ. I'm sure you do as well. This is not just, Hey, how about you just throw in a one of these? And then that, that kind of became a thing with DJs, you know? And I assume it's because there's a lot of people with terrible taste in music that started pitching ideas to DJs. You're like, yeah, I mean, I fucking worked my entire life,

put this playlist together, but yeah, you drunk fuck boy. You should definitely tell me. There's just be a balance. I think there should be a balance in that whole thing you know like everything but i'm talking like when your aunt ruth goes up and tries to request 15 different songs from 1948 at a wedding that's actually going very well and there's a lot of energy in the room don't listen to her sit down ruth do you think the dj um so like athletes whenever they're not performing well, everybody on earth sees it, you know?

Okay. And you get booed and things like that happen and you're judged and talked about. Do DJs think if there's requests coming, oh, these people are saying I'm not doing well. Is that right? Probably right. Yeah. They're offended. Yeah.

So it's like, it's almost an accountability issue. Yeah. Yeah. Like I don't want to. Big time. Self-awareness. Right. Isn't it? Yes. They take that as a, oh, I don't want to... Big time. Self-awareness. Right, isn't it?

Yes. They take that as, oh, you think I'm having a bad evening. Or is it someone on here saying, hey, stick to sports. What are you guys veering off about?

Yeah, it's interesting. Maybe. I think sometimes you just, you misread the crowd. And this is the crowd trying to correct it a little bit. Yeah, but you,

okay, good playlists. Imagine if fucking Gumpy, okay, who... Oh, no. And I love Gumpy. We love Gumpy. Love him. And he will fist bump. We miss you, Gump, by the way.

Love you, Gump. Miss you, Gump. But there's been numerous songs he has introduced to us as a whole where we go, Gump, that song cannot be heard in this office. Yeah, on the plane to LA, AJ. He had the aux cord. Oh, my God. He had the aux cord. Oh, my God. He had the aux cord.

And it was like, all right, Gump, we understand. I don't know about you guys, but every banger that Gump played, I'd never heard. Well, Gump tries to introduce new music to— Yeah, don't do it, Gump. Let it get popular, Gump. Don't do it. Well, I appreciate Gump. Love you.

I love you, Gump. Love you, Michigan, Gump. Love you, Gump. Gump puts on that cape, though, and he's like, oh, did you hear the new song? Fuck you. Banger. And then he'll play it, and I'm like,

he must be talking about a different song. And then I'll say, hey, that song? Yeah, pal. And then there's another one from this person. Boom, plays it. And it's like, all right, so we just have a little bit different taste. And I'm like, I might be wrong. And then normally the same reaction happens to everybody.

But Gump does hit a couple home runs. Yeah, absolutely. Let's not get in there. But Gump probably went up to a DJ at least once in his life and said, Paul, fucking. Mix it up, Paul. Stormzy G right here. It plays.

They're dying out here on the dance floor, Paul. Got a few birds I'm chasing. My wedding, it was flawless where you just, this website you put in the songs that you wanted them to play, and if they played a song off that wasn't on the list, you're fucking fired, okay? That's awesome. Oh, I like that.

Free. That's a good play. Doesn't happen in clubs. No. I have been at a place where they said, text this number your request, and it's like, oh, so they're just making me feel like I'll do that. Yeah, exactly. That's very nice of them to do so. it's like, oh, so they're just making me feel like I'll get it. Yeah, exactly.

That's very nice of them to do so. Connor's going to be – does Connor have a good playlist? We're going to need him to carry a Bluetooth if we get to play together Friday. Putting a round playlist together. Yeah, here we go. Perfect. And then I can just click on that through my own app and play it.

Do we got to put – I'm not saying it. What? I mean, we have to appeal to all parties that are playing in said golf round, I think, you know? No. So for you, we got to have like, let the bodies hit the floor. Yeah, absolutely not. Just play the hits.

Come on. Come on. Come on. Hey, the Stranger Things soundtrack has some good hits, too. Oh, yeah. Running down the hill. I don't know anything about that. They're all adults now, though, huh?

They used to be kids. Yeah, they're much older, and that's why I haven't seen the show as much. But I've been listening listen to the the soundtrack sorry no i cut you off there no i don't care what's erin listening to monk backyard barbecue or whatever yeah can we get a is there a buddhist playlist uh i don't think like probably any music he listens to has no vocals it's all like slow instrumental weird oh okay and yeah hey i like those for thinking that's a big thinking genre for me on the old playlist. Now that's what I call Buddhism 25.

Here we go. Boom. TED Talks we can play too. Download it, Con. I will. All right. What's the... That'd be a fun six-hole stretch.

On the music thing, though, Touch Tunes has changed the game because you can now go to a bar and play songs that you want. And you can pay more to cut the line. Oh, yeah. Fast pass. I do it every time. And if someone else fast passes while you're fast passing you know you got someone in the bar who wants to challenge you. Oh yeah. Then you

deposit more and you fast pass like 50 songs. Put them in the fucking ground. You don't even hear any of the songs you fast pass because at that point there's like 20 of them. But every time that happens I fucking bury the bar it doesn't matter way to go dude way to spend more money on that I got where I love about that

almost every weekend I always do that I put 200 in just to wow him off it's probably the business too yeah it's not just Zito running you up it's the fucking business like oh there's the molly to do for us alright let's put in a fake 150 bucks see if we can get this guy to spend $200 on this goddamn touch too they always get me.

It even says like, Oh, due to popular demand, fast passes now five or six more tokens. I don't fucking care. I'm playing 50 songs. I will spend. What's your go to?

What's the number one you want to get played? Usually every time I walk in, I'll do like the spins by Mac Miller. Cause that usually gets everyone in the, in the right place. And then I'll go to like Bruce Springsteen and then I'll switch it back up and I'll go to like whiz. Then I'll go to maybe a little Avicii just to dabble in the right place, and then I'll go to like Bruce Springsteen, and then I'll switch it back up, and I'll go to like Wiz. Then I'll go to maybe a little Avicii

just to dabble in the... Who wants to dance? Is he alive? Levels. Yeah, he's alive. Speaking of life, we have to keep this conversation alive and go elsewhere,

because we are a sports show. Stick to sports, AJ, you fucking idiot. Okay? Let's see you do it. All right. Joining us now is a man who, if he was past the aux cord, would put fire flames through any speaker that he would grab. Absolutely.

He was an absolute standout star at the University of Cincinnati. I do believe I was actually on the call for his first ever collegiate touchdown. He would then go on to score many, many, many more and then be drafted in the second round to the Indianapolis Colts wide receiver, Alec Pierce. Yeah! Thanks for having me, guys. Hey, what's going on, man?

Welcome to the Colts. Obviously, everybody who matters has already done that. I'm getting to officially do it right now. Pumped to have you here. How do you feel? You in Indianapolis. You back at home. How was OTAs, mini camps. How do you feel? You in Indianapolis. You back at home. How was OTAs, mini camps?

How do you feel going into your first camp here, pal? I feel great. So I actually just got down to Tampa. I'm training down there. Just getting ready for the season. But yeah, we wrapped up a couple weeks ago. Mini camp was all good. You know, it was great to get there and meet all the guys.

And I'm excited to get going. You don't know shit about fucking the NFL. We all know that. And I don't want to put you into a position where you'd feel uncomfortable. But there was some stuff coming on OTAs about Matt Ryan and accountability and being commanding and demanding and calling the huddle, and the defense actually being super pumped that that happened.

What has been your first interactions with Matt Ryan, a guy who Jim Irsay said astronaut, Navy SEAL, and accolades a mile long, obviously. What are your thoughts on him? And was there any welcome to the NFL moments with old Matt Ryan? I don't think I've had any welcome to NFL moments. I mean, just like first day walking in the door, meeting him, you know, was definitely interesting. It's just like how much older he is than me, you know, and he's just just doing it for so long not not to say that i hope he doesn't compliment that's a compliment it's a compliment for sure he's just such a such a leader like we would be out there doing the walkthroughs i know you guys know how that that goes in the off season um some days you don't have practice

got walkthroughs and like just how seeing how like locked in he was like that kind of set the precedent for me day one. Knowing this is the pros now. That's how you got to come every single day. What's the culture been like? You walk in, obviously everything's new to you at first. But spending some time there, it seems like all those dudes get along very well. And Frank Reich seems to be in control.

And they have a lot of great leadership too. What's the culture like? Yeah, I think it's a great culture. I mean, you got a lot of great players that lead the culture. I know for the receivers, we're super young, but they have good guys in that room that are good leaders with Paris, Ashton, Michael Pittman. So it's a great group of guys and, you know, I'm excited to be part of it. Chris Ballard actually told me, you know, like we like our young receivers we like our young receivers and i think an old nfl narrative and

if you last long enough in the nfl which we assume you will you'll be on your way to do so everybody knows you need a good veteran in every room so i think that's why reggie wayne was hired as the wide receiver coach it's like hey here's the perfect veteran that knows the building knows everything about this organization is one of the greatest wide receivers of all time, Hall of Famer, and he could potentially be the OG in the wide receiver room. What has it been like watching him become a coach? And it feels like he is crushing it.

Do you guys have a lot of respect for him? And do you think this is a job that he'll be able to do for a long time? Oh, for sure. I mean, I'm sure he'll be able to do it as long as he wants to do it. He's been great so far. You know, he's a far. He's a technician. He's a guy that's going to get us right on the field. But then he's also a guy that's able to speak from experience of being an NFL player.

So he's been great in that regard. He keeps it light. He keeps it fun out there and just gets us to go out there and compete. How'd you end up at Cincinnati? Were you just like a scrawny little white coming out of college? And then what did Luke Fickle and the boys over there do to your game, you think, that made you this NFL stud second-round draft pick? Yeah, so I didn't have a whole lot of offers.

I was kind of considering some MAAC schools, and then they ended up giving me an offer to Cincinnati, and that came along late. But at that time, they weren't that good of a team. I think they were coming off a 4-8 season. So it was kind of on par with the Mac schools. But I ended up – I went on a visit there and it just felt so much better. It felt like they had a lot higher of a ceiling, you know, a lot more potential.

So I ended up committing there. And then freshman year I played all special teams. Gunner. You'd love me, Pat. Straight Gunner. Here we go. So, yeah, I ended up doing that for my freshman year. They claimed they liked me so much on special teams that they wanted to change

me to a linebacker, but it also could have been that they just didn't see much of me at receiver. I was big in athletics, so they wanted to get me on the field. I played in that like December of my freshman year I played uh I played Sam linebacker like a safety linebacker hybrid so I was out there it was all it was all cool until like they ran the inside zone and I had to go in there and make the tackles but if they're running outside or passing the ball I loved it um you know I would have gained a lot of weight and stuff so ended up doing that. And then what really kind of saved my career, I think, or made my career was we got a new receiver coach at that time.

So the old receiver coach left. A new receiver coach came in, Mike Brown, and he was a young guy, and he was just fresh out of the league. And he just kind of was the guy that taught me all that technique because I was really raw at that time. So he made me into, like like the player I am today, and I still think I got a lot of improvement on my technique and stuff like that. But he definitely got that, you know, that groundwork for me.

What was it like playing for Luke Fickle? He's an absolute legend. Do you think Luke, is he ever going to take another gig? Do you think he ever leaves Cincinnati? I know everybody's trying to get him out of there, and he loves the place. Yeah, you know, like this year, especially with the Notre Dame job, you just never knew. But I think there's probably only one place he'd ever go,

and I know you're familiar with that place. Being an alma mater there, you couldn't blame him. If that job ever comes calling for him, I wouldn't blame him if he left for that. But, yeah, no, he's an awesome coach, great players coach, really competitive guy, really, really intense in that manner and competitiveness. I know he's like the best wrestler ever or something like that. Yes.

Yes. Maybe got to get him out on the WWE so you can get him out there. I would love to see Luke Fickle out there. But what he has done with Cincinnati has been awesome to watch. And that North Carolina game, was it North Carolina you guys played on? Was that? Yeah, right? UCLA, maybe?

Yeah, yeah, UCLA. Sorry, the blue. Yeah, UCLA. They didn't tweet. Brian Kelly brought his, not Brian Kelly, Chip Kelly. Chip Kelly brought the squad. And that was almost, I don't want to say the beginning of you guys going on a run, but fucking A, like from that point forward, it feels like if you guys lost the game, it was a massive ordeal.

What year were you born? 2000 what? 2000. So whenever you were like seven or eight years old, Cincinnati was a squad in the Big East. Then Cincinnati disappeared. Now Cincinnati's joining the Big East. Then Cincinnati disappeared. Now Cincinnati's joining the Big 12. What was it like to be a part of that city, that school, that university, coming back to prominence? I think there was additions on the stadium.

I know the place was sold out. Like, that had to be a pretty sweet feeling. I got to experience this at WVU because when our class kind of rose everything back to prominence, the energy around the university was just fucking awesome. Was it like that at Cincinnati? And do you see them carrying that, Alec? kind of rose everything back to promise the energy around the university was just fucking awesome was it like that at Cincinnati and do you see yeah do you see them carrying that Alec do you see them being able to carry that yeah I think they're gonna carry for sure and I mean it was

it was definitely a big change um our freshman year we kind of came out of nowhere we were the year before we were four and eight so when I first came in we won 11 games but it wasn't like we weren't really ranked the whole season and we were kind of just winning games that people thought we shouldn't so that year like the stadium wasn't packed we had we started getting some good fan support once we were winning and people saw that maybe we slid up in like 25th in the rankings stuff like that but um yeah it was definitely my sophomore year I think we opened with UCLA the game that you were calling um and that was like the first known like big difference like it was definitely my sophomore year. I think we opened with UCLA, the game that you were calling. And that was like the first known like big difference.

It was a Thursday night game. It was on ESPN. And then it just kind of built from there the more games we won. And then, you know, junior year was COVID, so we didn't have fans. But then just coming out this year, we were like a top ten team to start the year. And I think every game there was no open seat in the house, no matter what, even when we're killing teams, like it was,

it was packed in there. The student section is the whole backend zone. So yeah, it was, it was awesome place to play this year. I enjoyed that stadium. It's the oldest playing field in the NCAA or something like that. I forget the stat or fact,

and they built the stadium up around it. I remember that you drink beers, you drink beers. Are you super healthy guy? Oh yeah. I drink beers. Yeah. beers? You drink beers, or are you a super healthy guy? Oh, yeah, I drink beers. Yeah, a little bit. Hell yeah. That's fucking great news.

Honestly, that is. No, you got to drink beers there. Chris Ballard, ask anything about, like, you as a human whenever you were going through the whole draft process. Did you know the Colts were super interested? I did. So they came and worked out Dez, our quarterback. It was me, Dez, and Michael Young.

And then so we ended up getting – me and Mike ended up signing there. Dez, you know, I kind of thought that they wanted to – they really wanted to work out Dez. I think this might have been – I don't know if they had Matt Ryan or not at the time. But I think they were looking at him heavily. And, yeah, we just – we went and caught balls for him. And I think we – Chris Ballard he called after after the workout and just said he was like impressed with our with how we like uh ran the workout and just kind of our

whole organization our program like he understands why we won so many games so i think that's you know went into not only me getting drafted uh we had curtis brooks get drafted de-tackle um and i think, the six rounds by the Colts. So, yeah, I think they're buying into the Cincinnati program. They like it. That's awesome. I like the fact that you drink beers.

Why? Like a lot. Why? You're a human. That's what I hear right there because there's a lot of good times to be had in your time during Cincinnati. And if you were not enjoying it, I would have been like, get that guy the fuck off of this team. What are we doing? You got to enjoy that type of stuff.

Connor, your question for Alec Pierce. Yeah, Alec. I mean, there are a lot of locker room games, I believe, especially in the Colts. There was a basketball hoop maybe last year, and then, you know, ping pong and cornhole can sneak in. Are you well-versed in those things, or do you kind of have to work at it a little bit?

I actually haven't got on the ping pong yet, but I'm a pretty good ping pong player. But I've been running in bags, cornhole, I guess what you call it. But, yeah, I've been running in bags. That's been my specialty. I've been in the basketball, though. Have you ever played the game Euchre? Euchre, yeah.

I learned that at Cincy. Oh, that was created in Pennsylvania. Oh, it's a Ohio thing. That's cool. It's actually a Michigan thing michigan thing no listen you go to cornhole yeah you do not hey listen stay the fuck out of the booray games until your next contract seriously all right yeah i got you no that's what i've heard that's what i heard yeah back i've been in a couple hilarious games and pots hilarious after playing land we are still on plane for a good 30 45 minutes as we try to figure out who's going to end up doing whatever to get this pot here boo ray is a match

the pot situation so that game is a never-ending one even if you have a winner of a hand if there's two people in and one person loses that pot stays stays. So it's a, it can build. Boo-ray is the game, it's a lot of fun. It's a fucking blast. Also, in the past, has been the reason why guns show up and, you know, a little beef

happens with some teammates that maybe aren't on the same page with some debts. And said, Alec, keep your fucking ass out of the Boo Ray game until your next contract. Okay, pal? I got it. Unless you're a good player, though.

Hey, if you're a good player, get in there. I was a card player, so when I was introduced to Boo Ray, I think it was my rookie year, I sat in there in the game, and I got out of there in a good spot. Good spot. I felt good about it, but I had a nice conscious conversation with the mirror afterwards and was like,

hey, that could have ended very badly. This is not the time to learn a new game, but I like that you're a card player, beer drinker,

cornhole player. What? You're just, hey, let's go have 2,000 yards next year. Yeah. Let's fucking go,

pal. Let's do it. What do you think about the college game that you experienced there with Desmond and Cincinnati will translate into the NFL game? And what do you think like is the immediate, hey, I got to get better at this before my first training camp in the NFL? I think, well, you know, like I said, when I explained my whole career path, like I played special teams, I kind of did whatever it took to win for my team. My team won a lot of games so i kind of understand that like sometimes sometimes we were just running the

ball a lot because we could um so i i understand i'm not a selfish player i'm a guy that will do whatever it takes to win um and then what was the second part what i need to work on yeah what do you think you need to like out of your first otas was there a four like oh if i work on this better it's all probably technique shit, huh? Yeah, no, technique for sure. Like, I think I need to work on my releases. That's what I'm going

to be working on these next couple weeks, just kind of working on being, saving space for the quarterback, stuff like that. And then, you know,

always my footwork at the top of routes, getting out of cuts cleaner. That's always a big emphasis. Do you grow up playing seven-on-seven? I did not, but I grew up, like, Midwest Boom is, like, up playing seven-on-seven? I did not, but I grew up like Midwest Boom is like the best seven-on-seven

team in the country. It's like right where I'm from. But I played a bunch of other sports, so I didn't do it in the offseason. I'd rather like run track and play volleyball or whatever I did. Where are you from originally? I'm from Chicago area. Zito just dropped in my area. He's got a 40-inch vert or whatever.

Damn. You're a fun show, vert or whatever. Damn. Your phone show, huh? Yeah. Yeah. Hey, don't end up like this fucking guy next to you here. You know,

AJ, he used to have 40 inch vert. That's right. Ran a four, four fucked up and did the whole thing. Now he's got busted, mangled fingers and he can't even walk cause his knees or whatever. But you know,

he'll pay the price on the back end of that. Alec. Right. You drinking wine or swimming in your own pee or anything doing any of that weird uh like stay healthy stuff drinking wine makes you stay healthy well yeah i think you live forever that's why the europeans are like 12 years old try swimming in your own pee anti-oxidant like lebron right yeah yeah hell yeah well hey that fucking guy did you show those bottles whenever they're down the bubble in his fucking

room he had like 200 bottles of wine corked already he was doing down there. That guy may be having an issue, but his tequila is number one in the world or whatever. No, you don't say. Better than Jordan's. That's second to Jordan's. Your question, Tom? Alec, you talked about Jordan's. Jordan's to LeBron.

No. That's an actual stat. It came out this way. It ain't better than Tehran. It ain't better than Tehran. No. No, no. It's definitely not better than Tehran. No, definitely not better than Tehran. it's definitely not definitely not better than no energy drink at all sorry about this alec this is a little in-house shit we got to deal with go ahead you talked about matt ryan being 45 years old or whatever is that an easy

transition for you because the internet says that desmond ritter looks like he is also a 45 year old man do you guys you guys ever talk about that i didn't understand i don't understand that because i think it's just like being always being around does like he so he was super young he was starting his as a retro freshman i think he turned like 18 or 19 on the first game so he's like a one of those guys that was super young playing so i always thought of him like he looked kind of young but i guess now people are saying he looks like an old man yeah world war ii you had a kid so that could have that could have just added like 20 years i guess well congrats to him on having a child you look like a child though i mean that is i mean you do you look like you're like very young you look like the fact that you drink beers is crazy to me you know it seems like you're drinking you're doing a tb12 avocado ice cream super

water thing. I'm very happy to hear the complete opposite of that. I want to let you know that, Alec. Thank you. Fourth of July coming up, you know. Here we go. Hell yeah. I'm pumped for the Colts having this guy on the squad.

Don't touch a firework. Keep those fireworks out. I'll be holding a Roman candle. Eagle Creek, Pat. Eagle Creek Golf Course. Is that where you play? Yeah, the Colts. That's like the Colts. It's right next to the facility.

Yeah, I mean, that course. I mean, there's others. We get comped on that, so I've been there. I just have to practice a little bit. I've played there. I've played Eagle Creek a lot. I've played that course a lot. I have lost no less. Oh, the one

18, the one that's in the woods, I lost a ball every hole for the front nine. I have lost no less. Oh, the one 18, the one that's in the woods, I lost a ball every hole for the front nine. I've lost every single hole I think I've ever played at Eagle. There is just woods and trees dropped right into the middle of the fairway. It's like, all right, there's no chance I'm going to find my way. It's a tough course, sneaky tough course, but I like the fact that you're getting into the community. We are very lucky to have you here.

Can't wait to watch you perform, sir. Thank you for your time today, Alec. Yeah, thanks for having me. You're good at cornhole, huh? Yeah, I'm decent. Lots of, like, grad parties, you know. It's pretty Caucasian. You played in college, right?

I would imagine you played a lot at Cincinnati. Yeah, in the backyard. We had a big, like, basically frat house with me and all my teammates. We had, like, eight football guys living in two houses that had a shared backyard. Here we go. That's why you guys were so fucking good. We need to have that in Indy, by the way. We talk about this a lot.

Like, a team liking each other is a massive ordeal. And at Cincinnati, obviously, you guys had each other's back, and success is an easier way to kind of generate friendship and shit like that. But if teams could bottle that, they would try to and sell it. other's back and success is an easier way to kind of generate friendship and shit like that but that is that if teams could bottle that they would try to and sell it do you feel that with the Colts team the same thing you were kind of feeling with Cincinnati although you're brand fucking new here yeah for sure and I think you know for me that's something I've just been like accustomed to so I'm sure I would have been shocked if I didn't feel that way um but yeah it's felt like it's

felt just like I felt at Cincinnati like guys. But, yeah, it's felt just like how I felt in Cincinnati. Like, guys are super cool. You know, everyone, like, just gets along in the locker room. People talk shit. They do all that stuff, you know. So it's the same way as it was in college. All right, last question here before we let you go. You walk into a tractor supply. Okay, sure.

Okay, all right. You walk into a tractor supply, and you're trying to pick up mower, tractor, whatever. And there is a John Deere one here to the left and a bobcat one here to the right which way are you going and which one are you picking oh man i don't have much experience with tractors i'd probably go this is not just off the color isn't bobcat yellow john deer is the green and yellow one yeah sure yeah i'd go i'd go probably Bobcat. Oh!

Good luck with the Colts. We appreciate that. We will not judge you for that at all. Don't worry about it. Not scored. No. That's my decision. In Cincinnati, Wildcats, Bobcat.

Yeah. They're the Bears, so Bearcat. Oh, but we're going to be like grand opportunities right there. Well, yeah, just zero. Now, listen, I don't know if John Deere is ever going to sponsor you or Bobcat is ever going to sponsor you.

In this particular office, that was a tough decision to make. That was a tough decision. We are a John Deere office, Alec. All John Deere? Goddamn right. Why? Bobcats are red, by the way, Norm. That's the color.

John Deere is yellow and green. That changing? You think Kubota? Bobcats are red. I was thinking of something else then. Kubota. Caterpillar cat, that's what he's thinking. Caterpillar?

The big like, yeah, I don't even know. They're yellow. Would you like to re-decide? Re-decide? Read what? Can we tell him why you're upset pat why are you upset i mean i'll take i'll take john deere yeah okay all right there you go we got a chance coachable all right this is good we're gonna win the super bowl we appreciate it by the way we make zero dollars

from john deere this is just uh from our life experiences what we have been able to realize on decision making processes and on uh we have it's great to hear that man there's no there's no wonder why success just follows you around alec you're the man good luck with the quotes we're lucky to have you ladies and gentlemen alec pierce that's right we've had a great couple hours and yeah there we go hey how about it bruce nailed it clap for himself too i like, a little self-recognition. That's the best type of self-love is the best type of love. We're proud of you, Bruce.

To my left, you're right on the screen, AJ Hawk. We appreciate you, AJ. AJ. Toxic Tables here at Nick Moraldo at Boston Connor with no O on the back end of Connor. No, Mustangs forever. What? That's where I put my oh the mustangs going like palm there's no oh yeah but you cut the o in half who was your favorite teacher

takes the u and the m ah you know i didn't really like any of the teachers we were teacher guys you would get that if you wanted to bum, but, you know. Valid. Actually, pretty valid. Now, I think Diggs had a good relationship with some of the teachers. What about the one guy that was having sex with students? Your guy? That was your guy.

What are you talking about? One guy? It was just one guy? Yeah, just one. Yeah, just one. He said multiple teachers. You're a little bit younger. Did you know Ezekiel?

So, actually, it's funny you say that. Ezekiel was two grades below me. But I, unfortunately, didn't know Elrod because I hear that he was kind of the stud of the family. You're not from Plum. You hear me? Don't claim it. Stop it right now. Now's not the time.

Things are going well in Plum right now. We don't need you to bring it up. That's a Fugaze. Has been for years. Was there a country you shouted out a couple weeks ago? China? Is that the one you're talking about? Yeah.

Yeah, the Forbidden City? Sure. Yeah, I remember that. I was there. You still sending love? No, not really. We'll see what happens, though. They might be able to turn it around.

Maybe, huh? Maybe. Atone Diggs is here. One half of the Hammerdown Cowboys. AJ, real quick. I don't think they'll be able to turn it. It's going to take think I'll be able to it's going to take a while I think time time

why you punish me to be honest going into the last 45 minutes for a four day weekend this is probably exactly how your office does it going into a long weekend this show ain't going to be worth a fuck for this last hour and we do apologize

we appreciate everybody for enjoying the afternoon with us but you might as well go ahead and move on somewhere else aj you think that there is ufos everywhere now every day you hear that yes how do you feel you excited about this well some of the videos they trick you though some of the videos are like 10 years old. Some of them are somewhat current. So, yes, like I said, I need, cool, show me all the crafts you want. I need to see it up close. I want to see some kind of bean or see what is inside of these things. I'm pretty sure that what we are seeing is other places' drones. Yeah.

They're flying these drones in there just like we have. But shoot one down, then. We can shoot anything down. I do believe it probably has some sort of force field. Because off the... What are those called out in the middle of the ocean? Carriers. Aircraft carriers.

They said that the one that was following them, their anti-drone defense, nothing. And they were just moving faster than the missiles were. So it's kind of a game of hide and seek and they're right in plain sight, and we can't seek shit. It's a little bit tough to do that when everybody seems to be smarter than us. Why are they here?

Why does it seem to be so prevalent and ready happening every single night? Who knows? Maybe we're on a precipice of finding out. Let's not shoot them because you never know. They could have the rule, do not fire unless fired upon. So we don't want to start anything like that. Yeah, we do not want them to see the whites of our eyes. That's correct.

That's right. So keep your eyes closed when you're walking up to them. Because if you open your eyes and see the whites of your eyes, they're going to shoot you down. Plus, they have the higher ground advantage,

which, you know, in war, if you're running up the hill, it is much harder to fight. Hey, some of these things, yeah, higher ground, good spot to be. Some of these things,

like 1,000 Gs they're pulling. They would, if it was... Yeah, we can't explain how they're moving. And they're showing, like, no propulsion, all're pulling they would if it was if it was yeah we can't explain how they're moving and they're showing like no propulsion all that yeah so it's yeah it's so different i don't know we need to see more and then people say well it's from another country it's like well if another country has something that's able to pull a thousand g's we're fucked yeah if if another country they were there we are completely either way we should be trying to find out who's the who's the creator of the thousand G pulling thing

that can just go any direction and not leave any gas. Chris Angel. Could be Chris Angel. Somebody get Chris Angel in a fucking investigation room and see if this is him or not. Let's move on. Coach Sirianni has made news because of an incredible situation that had taken place on the courts. Shout out to EliteSportsNY.com. We assume this is a Giants fan's website,

but don't you dare wear Giants gear to Nick Sirianni's local park. A WFAN caller alleged Thursday he almost threw down with Eagles head coach Nick Sirianni while playing tennis at Centennial Park in Haddonfield, New Jersey. Peter from Mapleshade, Regaled Morning Show, hosts Boomer Esiason and Greg Giannotti with the tale saying Sirianni got upset because he, a Bronx native, was wearing a Giants cap along with a Yankees T-shirt. Mr. Mapleshade, real name, says he was playing on the court adjacent to Sirianni

and his wife when the kerfuffle occurred. He goes, hey, I have a problem with what you're wearing, the caller said. And I go, listen, bro, if you have a problem, you come over here and do something about it. The caller claimed Sirianni said he had a problem with someone wearing a Giants cap on these courts in Centennial Park. Sirianni also allegedly repeated the said the Giants and head coach Brian Dayball suck. Whoa. I question that part. Okay.

So who knows if Sirianni is talking shit to Mr. Maple Shade about Dayball and the Giants sucking as a whole. But it sounds like he was getting a little riled up seeing all the Giants gear around him in Centennial Park in New Jersey. He said, no more of this bullshit, and I'll come slap you right in the mouth. Now, is this true? Is this not true? Let's go right to the source.

Sent out a few texts, pulled a few favors. Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us, Coach Sirianni. Yeah, Coach! Coach? How you guys doing, Pat? us, Coach Sirianni. Yeah, Coach! Coach. How you guys doing, Pat? Coach, great to see you. You hear me?

Great to see you, Coach. I hope life is good. We have missed you. You look fantastic. You look well rested, which I think is a surprise to all of us. But I would like to ask you, straight up, Coach Sirianni, is this true?

And do you go around looking at people wearing Giants caps and shirts and just smack them in the mouth all the time and say this is an Eagles town around here? Well, you know, it's funny, Pat, because a lot of people think, you know, the term dog mentality is just like a fun little catchphrase, okay? I fucking live my life that way, okay? I am all bite, no bark, okay?

So when you hear dog mentality, yeah, this guy comes into my neighborhood. He's in my city. He's in my park. He's wearing Giants gear. I just said, hey, listen, pal, you know, Peter from Maple Shade, if that's his real name, take the hat off or I'm going to knock your fucking teeth out. And, you know, apparently he had a problem with it. I didn't see the issue with it.

Coach, this caller says that he obviously wanted to fight you what happened we don't know how this this whole thing ended well i think he probably knew that you know once i beat his ass on that tennis court his wife was probably gonna be coming home with me so you know i mean no more no more pickleball or tennis with the wife you know when you see coach throwing down and you're knocking a couple of your teeth out, not only do you look like a bitch-made cat, but now you don't have a wife anymore. Yeah.

Coach, any further thoughts on the NFC East being wide open? They just signed Scary Terry to Washington. We haven't got your thoughts about that. Obviously the Giants and Daniel Jones coming together, even though the fan is running his mouth to you. And let's not – the Cowboys got tacked back.

Are you okay in the NFC East with all the recent moves that have been happening? Yeah, who cares? You know, AJ said – I don't think he said – I did say that. The Giants do fucking suck. You know, Brian Dable goes to Rangers games, and everyone loves him because he's drinking beer, sitting in the front row. Well, let's see how much he's laughing and having a good time when I'm shoving the football down his throat, you know, for 60 consecutive minutes. Because it's going to happen twice this year.

Carson Wentz is a quarterback for the Commanders. So that's great for the guy that scared Terry. But we do not fear that man. He has no dog mentality. Everyone knows he has no dog mentality everyone knows no dog mentality and um i'll be honest the cowboys do scare me a little bit because as you guys have talked about on the show coach mike mccarthy has lost about 150 pounds so i think he is you know he's he's rip roaring and rearing ready to go because again we made the playoffs last year okay it looks like

coach sirianni isn't just some big dumb dipshit. It looks like he knows how to coach football. So give me another year. Give Jalen another year. Give our dogs another year to kind of develop that mentality and let that seed sprout up and grow like we talked about last year. I see no reason why we can't win the Super Bowl. Jason Kelsey is serving drinks on the shore for a good cause.

How do you feel about your center? you know, chugging beers, slinging beers and everything like that, Coach? Yeah, he's a dog. You know, he basically, he is what we are looking for in a football player. He's a dog on the football field. He's a mean cuss, a mean sump. He can drink beers like no other, okay? So, yeah, I mean, what's not to love about Jason Kelsey?

His brother's a great athlete. He's a great athlete. We may line him up at tight end this year. I don't know. A little taste test for everybody else in the NFC this year. If you see Jason Kelsey, we may display him out wide. I don't know. Very, very accurate this year because I've been working a lot with him

and kind of developing him, bringing him along. There's really nothing not to like about the Eagles going into the 2022-2023 NFL football season. How's your tennis game? Was that guy talking shit on your tennis game or just the Eagles and Giants stayed off the court? No, I mean, you see Wimbledon going on right now. I'll beat Joker's ass too.

You do not want my forehand. You do not want my forehand. You do not want my backhand. When I get off the serve with the topspin, ball game over. Ball game over. I didn't have my racket on me. I was kind of just walking around and making sure that guys weren't wearing Giants hats in my territory. He was, and we know what happened.

I threatened to beat his ass and kind of embarrassed him so you cut you out foot him which is a dog thing to do uh Connor Boston Connor has a question for you coach yeah coach how is AJ Brown you know taken to the team and also how is the uh big guy out of George uh Jordan Davis D Lyman doing with the squad yeah he looks good he looks good. He's very nimble. He's like a big dancing bear. Once again, I'm not talking about the dancing bear, AJ, that you're probably thinking of. I know

what you're getting at. Yeah, I mean, we were already the best team in the NFC East, and then we get AJ Brown, we get another year of Jalen, we get the big athletic son of a bitch, Jordan Davis. Again, honestly, I don't even know if the guys need to show up for training camp I really don't you know we we might we might just you know have some like fun dog type uh building activities uh this year

dog building dog building activity what are some dog building what are some dog building activities that like push-ups on cement and fist and what are some dog building what are some dog building activities that like push-ups on cement and fist and what are some other dog building mentalities you could do that i've only been eating kibbles and bits for the last three months that's the only idea so you know a lot of it is diet based um you know pissing and pooping just wherever we want you know parking lot and it's just like hey want, you know, parking lot. And it's just like, hey, you know what? I'm just going to take a shit right here.

I'm going to go piss right here. You know, that kind of stuff that just kind of really reinforces that dog mentality that we're looking for. Coach, how many games are you going to win this year? 15. You going to win the Super Bowl? Sounds like you thought of that. Sounds like you've thought of this, yeah. 15, that's probably on the light side, to be honest with you.

That's just me not – I don't want to put too much of an X on my back. But, yeah, let's say 15, we'll probably get home field advantage, probably be the first overall seed. And, yeah, I wouldn't be – where is the Super Bowl this year? It doesn't fucking matter. Phoenix. Tim Phoenix, are you coach of the year? Am I? You know what? I should are you coach of the year? Am I? You know what? I should have won

coach of the year last year. They didn't want to give it to me, so, you know, fuck them. I don't care. Am I the coach of the year? Yeah. Am I the coach of the century? Maybe. I guess we'll find out. Last question for you, coach, before we let you go. We know you got a lot of puppies to tend to in that

dog mentality world that you're in and obviously we're incredibly incredibly proud of the off season that you have had coach alongside your wife what do you think about the hot dog eating contest as a whole joey chestnut looking to win i i believe his uh uh 15th or 16th title uh fourth of july in the hot dog eating contest will you watch that and how do you judge uh joey jaws chestnut against all the other professional leaders i mean it's tough because jaws is gonna beat the hell out of everybody again there's almost no point in why do i i will take you know the the dunking the hot dog in the room temperature war technique i will probably

kind of see what he's doing to to maybe take that into his speech this year. My pick to click, my underdog this year, watch out for Eric Badlands Booker. He is a mean cuss. He weighs about 800 pounds. If we're just talking pound for pound how many hot dogs he could eat, he could probably eat like 1,000 or 2,000 in the five years. He's worried. He's got very high cholesterol. So he needs to be careful.

And, you know, tone it down a little bit. But look for Eric Badland-Hooker to really give Joey Chestnut a run for his money. All right. We appreciate you, Coach. We know you're very busy. Thank you for your time. We miss you around here. Can't wait to see you soon, ladies and gentlemen.

Coach Cereale. Yeah, Coach! Thank you for your time. We miss you around here. Can't wait to see you soon, ladies and gentlemen. Coach Cereline. Yeah, coach! Thank you. Joining us now is an absolute icon in the world, an icon living, he can say. Last time he was on, our power went out in the middle of the interview for the entire building out of nowhere

because he was so goddamn electric. Obviously, he's a screenwriter, he's a producer, he's executive producer, he's an actor, he's a musician, he's a legend, he's the founder of the big three. Ladies and gentlemen, Ice Cube. Yeah, Cube! Yo, what up Pat, how y'all feeling man? Cube, fucking so sorry about the power

just going out mid-interview. That is not what we would like to have whenever a legend like yourself is on the show, sir. It's all good. You know, it happens. You know what I mean? We electric like that. Oh, yeah. Got a chance to catch some of the big three this past weekend.

Obviously, you're two weeks in. How's the season going thus far? Are you guys seeing good upside with all the different platforms? You're on, I believe, Paramount, Paramount Plus. The Zone has some games. It's basically's basically being seen everywhere how you feeling going into this fifth season here sir oh we feel great uh you know the the play has gotten better you know our ratings are growing um you know we're doing you know better than a lot of leagues that's been established you know i'm saying uh mls mlb you know i'm saying a lot of leagues that's been established, you know what I'm saying, MLS, MLB, you know what I'm saying.

So it's kind of cool to, you know, to really be in the game and for people to be checking us out, loving the sport, and picking up on it. You ever think about branching off and having like a special exhibition where you have people like you? I know Adam Sandler has the the movie out guys that play basketball that are musicians actors entertainers and putting a little tournament on like that celebrity big three uh not really you know i mean um just doing the real league is hard enough so the celebrity thing they do a lot of that uh all-star game. You know, we're thinking about doing a celebrity game,

doing our all-star game. So, you know, not a whole league, but maybe a game here and there. Hey, you just mentioned having good ratings and comparing yourself to MLS and MLB. The MLS just signed for $250 million with Apple. You know that? You obviously know that. $250 fucking million, Cube.

Yeah, I mean, Microsoft. Come on, man. Come on with it. They ain't cut a check know that. $250 fucking million cube. Yeah. I mean, Microsoft. Come on, man. Come on with it. We are a company. You know what I'm saying? They ain't cut a check like that. I mean, we could definitely use it. We're a new league.

We need all the support we can get to get us over the hump. Hey, I just got this. I didn't know this was happening. I literally just got sent this. The National Football League, parentheses, NFL. Okay. That's how it will be referred to going forward i announced today its partnership with contract with black america institute cwba an economic inclusion focused initiative led by artist and entrepreneur

o'shea jackson also known as ice cube the cwba and nfl partnership enhances the nfl's dedication to increasing economic equity and partnerships with black-owned businesses. The NFL has spent and allocated over $125 million targeting black-owned businesses over the last year, bolstering its commitment to economic equity. Okay, so first of all, fucking awesome that you're doing that with the NFL. Follow-up, do you feel pressure being the guy that the NFL is like, Hey, we need to do something. Who's an incredible businessman that can help us kind of touch the culture, the community.

Like that's a big time position for you to be sitting in for the success and for the NFL to choose to do business. That's a big fucking deal. Right. And don't you feel a lot of pressure from out there? And could you have ever expected this when you were taking a baseball bat to a motherfucker's office back when you were getting screwed over? Well, as far as pressure, no, you know, I feel privileged to be in this position to be able to to initiate something like this. Troy Vinson and Roger Goodell really came at us and said, hey, you know, what can we do in our business to help bridge this wealth gap? And we came up with some great ideas. We connected them with some great businesses that's out there.

They injected them into their, you know, chain of contracts and stuff like that. And we want to do more in the future. Of course, we're going to be connecting them with more businesses. We want to connect with the teams, too. Right now it's just really with the main NFL, but we want to connect with all the teams, try to do the same thing, and then connect with other leagues. You know, the NBA should be all over this. We're trying to, you know, make sure that, you know,

that they are also looking at some people out there that can actually do the jobs that they already have being done, Black-owned businesses. So, you know, we're just trying to make sure we can do what we can with the businesses that we know rely a lot on you know black customers or black workers or black audience to uh you know pitch in when it comes to the things they need for their business and do some business with some of these companies it sounds like that's an actual way to make the world a better place as opposed to, you know, just maybe yelling about stuff. This is actual action.

Were you surprised about this? Because I feel like the NFL gets buried a lot for this type of shit. When something happens to a black player or a decision is made, the NFL is immediately buried, right? And I know the NFL has always done a lot of like, we want to make it better, we want to make it better. As this partnership was growing, were you surprised by it? Like, oh shit, we're really doing this, and

we're really making a change? Or from the beginning of the entire initiation and conversation, it felt like the NFL was going to be on board regardless? Well, it felt like they were going to be on board as long as we came with a great plan on how they can do this. You know, sometimes it's just being, you know, long as we came with a with a great plan on how they can do this you know sometimes

it's just being you know who you're familiar with they've been working with a lot of companies that they've been familiar with for you know 100 years or whatever and so um you know to to try to inject some new blood into that um is you know a. And so they were just full steam ahead on the process. That's why we worked behind the scenes for over a year to make sure that we had some wins, to make sure we had some touchdowns, to make sure that this was in motion and not us just saying what we wanted to do. Yeah, but we're actually doing it every day, and we're going to continue to do it,

and we want other leagues, other companies, you know, to jump on board with this kind of thought process on how to, you know, inject some wealth back into the communities that they depend on so much. What's it been like working with Roger Goodell throughout this whole process? He doesn't speak to the media a whole lot, and a lot of people don't get to interact with him too much. I would assume he's been pretty good with you. Very cool. You know, we started off just kind of, you know,

being cool without doing any business. You know, I met him years ago when he, you know, first took over the NFL and, you know, you you know I'm a big Raider fan, president of the Raider Nation, if you didn't know that. So I'm always getting on him about, you know, the tuck rule and this and that. And so, you know, I told him, you know, move the Raiders to L.A. The Chargers are going to get booed out there. So, you know, I've always been, you know, hitting him up and kind of giving

him my two cents just as a fan just as somebody you know who loves the nfl and love the product and so when it was time to actually do something like this it just made it easier because i already knew roger and um you know when you're sitting at the top and you say, hey, get something done, that doesn't mean it always happens, you know, in a hurry. But, you know, what I saw in Roger and Troy, that they stayed on top of this and made sure it happened. And that's what we needed. You know, we need, you know, the people at the top to push everybody throughout the organization to make something like this happen.

Hey, can you maybe get Goodell a feature on a Mount Westmore track? I don't know. I got to check his bars. You know what I mean? I don't know how he's – I don't know. He got to have a high 16 to make it on the track. Could you imagine Goodell walking out with that fucking peanut M&Ms on that leather chair and just driving?

I mean, that would be hysterical. I'm very happy to hear this, but as soon as I read this, I did not know this was happening. And as I was reading it, I'm like, this is fucking awesome because everybody kind of gets yelled at for being all talk and no action. And then this actually happening and you saying like, yeah, we're trying to do things first before we make the announcement. Incredibly fucking cool. Cube, you continue to kill fucking everything. Thank you, man. I appreciate that, man. What's next for you, man? What are we doing next? You have movies all over the place. You're running a fucking initiative to save communities. You got Mount Westmore. Obviously the big threes in season five. Is there anything

else that the Ice Cube universe can handle at the moment? Hey, you know, more touring, making music, and, you know, making sure this league, you know, has a great summer. Like I said, we need support, you know, without a doubt. If you love the Big Three, support the Big Three. And, hey, you know, just continue to look for ways I can, you know, make this world a better place. Well, we appreciate you, man. Thank you for

coming back. Sorry our power got cut out. Can't wait to chat with you again. Anytime, man. Anytime. Hey, listen. You're talking about Hot 16. You know? Hey. I'm gone, man. All right. Appreciate that. Good dude, man. He's a gentleman. I appreciate that.

Good dude, man. He's always great on the show. He's been very nice to us all the time. I would like to get a sponsorship into the big three. CFO Phil, let's figure that thing out. That'd be awesome. I would. Sustained success.

He stayed relevant forever. That's really, really tough to do. Dude, he writes, he acts, he raps, he creates, he bridges. I mean, that is just, what a fucking mogul that guy is, honestly. And could you have ever imagined? I bet he did. That's why he went in there and said, fuck this guy. I can do your job better than you, and you're not going to fuck me over.

Like, that is, I'm very thankful for him. All right, I'm getting the fuck out of here, okay? Because I have to. AJ Hawkins, Tone Diggs, Nick Moraldo, Zito, Bruce, and I think Pirate, Mitt, and Dirty will take this thing home. the out of here okay because i have to uh aj hawk and tone digs nick maraudo zito bruce and i think pirate uh mitt and dirty will take this thing home you all are the best humans of all time uh i don't we already went to a break right yeah yeah yeah there you go bruce one more time bruce all right yeah yeah you're all right uh come on aj please take this thing home and make sure we do a good giveaway, please

alright? Oh yeah, boys, you're going to have to help me with that have fun, enjoy your Smackdown tomorrow and then your premium live event on Saturday Okay, you got it, Money in the Bank on Saturday live from Vegas on the Cock, Peacock Smackdown tomorrow night in Phoenix on Fox, then obviously on Monday, 4th of July, Joey Chestnut

will attempt to stuff more hot dogs down his throat than any human has ever stuffed down their throat in the past. Hell yeah. Have an incredible weekend. And remember, although we're not perfect, we should still celebrate a little bit. Cheers. Thank you.

Tone Diggs, take this sumbitch away, pal. Thank you, Pat. Hey, safe flight. All right. Look at this, Tone. Split screen with me and you. I've never seen this. We haven't had it before, have we?

No, I think we do it every single time that pretty much every time man i don't know we'll see come up with a giveaway digs oh no it's on fire again son of a bitch it must be the mulch out back that's been a an ongoing situation here someone keeps smoking cigs and putting their butts out in the mulch beds and then the mulch beds light on fire that's a true story. It sucked into the ventilation here. I can smell it. It's already filling up my lungs.

That's a true story. Apparently it happened in Cleveland, but I thought Cleveland was just doing Cleveland things and the whole city was on fire. But actually out back this week, someone flicked a cigarette into a mulch bed and it caught all the mulch beds on fire. Really? This is coming after that big fire you guys had a couple weeks ago?

Yeah, right on the heels of it, which is quite concerning that there is just absolutely no regard for fire safety around here. But, you know, we will battle, we will persist, and we will overcome. Okay, we will, and we will do a giveaway before we forget to do that. Yeah. Because that will happen. Let's do hashtag feelgoodthursday because that's what it is. PMS.

Hashtag PMS feelgoodthursday. Off to a fucking hot start, Tony. Hashtag PMS feelgoodthursday. We'll do that. Is that all right with you, AJ? That's great. Sounds amazing. What do they win?

He's already trending. True. Hashtag PMS feelgoodthursday. We'll start there. $5.99 to $10 winners is what the giveaway will be. USD. USD. And to win that, you will have to use the hashtag PMS feel good Thursday.

And then we and include your cash tag in it. Your cash up cash tag. Cash up cash tag. And we would like you to tell us using a GIF or a picture or whatever you would like, your favorite thing about the 4th of July. Okay. Good one. Okay.

We like to stay topical around here. What's your favorite thing, Diggs? Okay. So I now go to my wife's grandma's house. It's on a lake. In South Bend? It's close to South Bend. It's actually in Michigan.

Northern? Nope. Southern Michigan. Right on the border of Indiana and Michigan. There's this group of dudes in a boat every year. And for about five hours straight, all they do is circle the lake with a ginormous American flag and just blare Toby Keith.

Every year? Yeah. And do people give him standing O's every time they come circling through there? Yeah, and it's pretty awesome, to be honest with you. They don't mix in Kid Rock all summer long? No, no, strictly Toby Keith. Okay. I mean, it's pretty good,

but I just feel like there's a little bit of room for improvement there. Maybe some Lee Greenwood in there, too. What's yours, H? Man, I don't know. I just think everything. Everything about people are juiced. People are outside. Fireworks, of course.

I love them. I've watched people almost blow their hands and limbs off many, many times, and I'm just glad it hasn't been me. What are you doing for the 4th? There's a couple days of it. There's fireworks going on tomorrow night here. The big ones in Columbus, they call them Red, White, and Boom. I don't think I'm going to be going to that.

Monday's a parade. We'll go to a little parade and go watch the fireworks. Does General Bob run around in his red, white, and blue banana hammock. I mean, I wouldn't be shocked. General Bob and his family are going to stop by and come over Monday during our 4th of July festivities. So, yeah, maybe I'll snap a pic and see what he's wearing. How do you think he feels about the USC and UCLA coming to the Big Ten?

I think Bob probably has known this for 12 months. He probably knew this before any of us. I'm sure he loves it, man. Make it as good as you can. It's all going to be a couple of super conferences, isn't it? Yeah, the rumor is it's like the Big 12 and the SEC have already aligned. And then apparently the ACC, Big 10, and Pac-12 kind of made an agreement that they would look after each other's back.

So it feels like, and there's been some reporting on Twitter that I've seen now, that it's basically going to be like two super conferences of 20 plus teams this is good though we're gonna get see better games right because normally you're only gonna play if ohio state's playing the big 10 there's a couple games a year that people care about yeah you could have a lot more games that people care about yeah because like listen they had they had a few years and so did like but ohio when ohio state rucker is ohio state like you know kind of know what's going to happen ohio state northwestern you kind of know what's going to happen but uh but yeah you would think so you would hope so the acc just did away with

both of their they just made one doesn't matter does do conferences matter to you conferences don't really matter to me like how is it going to affect people to where they're super mad? Is it only going to be the people that are, like, old school, hey, this is what college football is, let's win our conference, let's go on from there? I don't know. I think it's the purists. I think it's the fan bases who love playing those schools.

Yeah, it's great news if you're a big Power 5 program or one of the big traditional powerhouses. It's a little more concerning, I would assume, if you're a middle-of-the-road or middle-tier school. Or even, yeah, or like a Mountain West or an AAC conference-type team. You're probably going to have a much harder road now, and it's going to be much harder to book good games because a lot of these great teams are going to be playing each other

within their own conference. Are they ever going to make Notre Dame join a conference though can they make them join a conference I was trying to think does this help or hurt Notre Dame having to help them I don't know I think this would definitely make Notre Dame want to join the ACC because like two they gotta split the money then man yeah which which does suck because that NBC deal is fucking huge but like what else could they really do at that point because there's gonna it's gonna turn into basically just like three super conferences the big 10 the sec and the acc it seems like you look great by the way what happened mitt was in the hospital yeah he went to the hospital yeah i had to make sure i

didn't have an eye infection uh i can't be getting other people sick in here obviously i scratched my cornea i don't have no idea how i don't know they didn people sick in here obviously i scratched my cornea i don't have no idea how i don't know they didn't give him an eye patch which is kind of fucking disturbing i don't need one dude yeah i think you do wait what happened did you just wake up and it hurt yeah i just woke up and it hurt really bad so then i was like oh shit i gotta make sure i don't have an infection oh i mean okay so we have breaking news sorry mitt but nick was getting my attention because we do have breaking news now this is right up our alley especially for us too and nick and everyone else left here um kevin durant from sham saranya kevin durant has requested a trade out of Brooklyn. Wow. Okay.

Now, was he doing this? Does he hate Kyrie? That's how everyone's going to take it, right? Isn't that what you initially think? That was my first thought. You have to because I thought the whole point of Kyrie opting back in was that he was sticking to his word that he was going to do this with KD. Exactly. And then people said, oh, well, KD, we can crush those crush those trade rumors he'll be sticking around now do people just assume that without actually

investigating or reporting on anything i heard you let out an audible oh when you read this um what are your thoughts on this because it seems like you have a thought i just think this is absolutely fucking crazy obviously uh kd leaving after k saying, man, I can't leave my dog seven, referring to Kevin Durant or wanting to leave, I guess, after that. I just think this is wild. I mean, Kevin Durant, he's still a top four or five player in the league for sure, like undoubtedly. So I just think this is awesome and wild.

AJ? Can Kyrie opt back out now? No, but he can. Request a trade. Request a trade. Request a trade as well. Okay, so did Steve Nash, the head coach of this team, good luck. How do you keep these personalities together?

But did Steve Nash know this would happen? I have no idea. I assume. You know what I think? This is probably Ben Simmons' fault. Why is that? Just, I mean, anywhere he goes, the locker room falls apart, H. Where would Kevin Durant go, though?

They don't have to trade him. He can request one. That doesn't mean they have to do it. I know Conor's been pushing for Boston hard. To the fucking Lakers, dude. What do you mean? Mitt's pushing for the Lakers hard. Maybe a homecoming, Oklahoma City,

get the face turn that he's kind of wanted after the Warriors run. Yeah, they stink, though. What about going to join Zion? The Bulls, maybe? Oh, Chicago. Zeed, there's a – Bull down. When the whole Kyrie stuff was happening,

I know the Bulls fans were pushing hard for that. Did you say bull down? Bull down. Yeah. Zeed's a diehard Bulls fan. Hell yeah. Are you really, Zeed? I honestly do believe that we could make something like this happen for sure

why wouldn't you? I mean I don't know how the salary caps work in the NBA and all that but I would imagine yeah is Zach Levine gone or is he still there? my close sources say that he's going to stay but other than that though everyone's saying he's gone who's your source?

by the way when you go to that shot are all three of you wearing the new nike uh for the brand hats sure as hell are go get those at store.patmackmyshow.com um we're wrapping up the show now what are you laughing at bruce bruce you're on thin fucking ice what are you laughing at? I don't know, Bruce. Ridiculous. We're just three wide with the same hat on. Reminder of the giveaway. Hashtag PMS Feel Good Thursday. Okay?

That's the number sign. Pound sign. Hashtag PMS Feel Good Thursday. Make sure you tweet your cash app. And your favorite thing about July 4th. Okay? Make it feel good, too. We don't want any feel-bads. Will you like hot dogs? Will you like independence?

Will you like ice cold beers? Will you like fireworks? Any of it. All of it. And 10 winners will win $599. But Phil just texted me that the white Nike for the brand hats are sold out. That's how hot they are. So we'll get back to that

there'll be more was connor supposed to wear one earlier i don't know can't tame his flow unfortunately no no no you can't um but it's an incredible week we can't thank you enough aj anything before we get out of here no you know the clock better than me so i'll let you sign us off here in 30 seconds 25 left it sounds like i'll see you guys on uh i guess tuesday right we're gonna be off for a little bit i hope you guys have a great fourth of july man yeah off tomorrow off uh monday so we could celebrate the holiday uh everyone come back with all their fingers all their limbs and we'll have a great tuesday yes everyone just make sure you know you can get wild over the fourth of july weekend but don't get too wild okay that's what we like to say around here we will see you

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