The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 697 - Tahoe Wednesday with AJ Hawk, Darius Butler, and Aaron Rodgers

Episode Date: July 6, 2022

On today’s show Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys open up with a nice surprise story of AJ finding his long lost truck. Pat gets into some NFL and other sports news by bringing in former teammate and host ...of The Man To Man Pod, Darius Butler to talk about the latest news and rumors coming from the NFL (0:20:33.704 -0:42:51.362). Next Pat breaks DAHN the news break of Baker Mayfield being traded to the Carolina Panthers with live updates. Shortly after Pat receives a phone call from the back to back NFL MVP and friend of the Progrum, Aaron Rodgers joins the show via phone call to talk about his offseason and what to expect this coming fall from the Packers (1:20:53.607 - 1:31:00.797). Pat ends the day with some great phone calls and kicks the show into the extra long Tahoe Celebrity Golf Outing weekend, make sure to follow along on socials @ThePatMcAfeeShow on twitter and Instagram for the whole weekend. Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show and listen on Sirius XM Channel 82, Mad Dog Radio. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you next week, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, beautiful people. It is Wednesday, July 6th, 2022, and this sports show on the internet and radio begins now. Let's ride. That sounds so good. Today's a big day. Not just because today is the day that we travel out to Tahoe, and I attempt to not embarrass us, our families, our entire fan base, and the American Century Championship, the golf tournament of the stars. This is the first time I've been able to make it. I can't wait. We're traveling out there today. That is not why today's a big day.
Starting point is 00:00:40 Today's not a big day because Jocena Anderson tweeted yesterday to watch the Baker Mayfield timeline for today because something might pop off. Jocena Anderson, NFL insider, was at the Cleveland Browns facility watching their program run just a few weeks ago. Seems like she has a lot more information than everybody else talking about the Baker Mayfield Cleveland Browns situation. And she says, watch the timeline for today. So is something going to give with the
Starting point is 00:01:00 Baker Mayfield situation with the Cleveland Browns on this Wednesday, July 6th? Maybe, but that's not why. Today's a big day. Today's not a big day because the talk to the table looks fantastic. Nick Morado at Boston Connor. Hey, Ty Schmidt. Congrats on the baby. We love you.
Starting point is 00:01:19 That's not why today's a big day. Today's not a big day because Tone Diggs won half of the hammer. Cowboys won 2-0 and won on the diamond last night on his hammer down public bets. Tone Diggs, congrats to you. Not why it's a big day. Go, Tony. No, never.
Starting point is 00:01:33 Today's not a big day because a big red truck was found. Today's a big day. What? Because a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup champion, a COVID survivor, a private plane survivor, and a grand theft auto survivor. Ladies and gentlemen, the face of the place, the best jawline in sports,
Starting point is 00:01:56 the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers, Centerville's own Ohio Falk, A.J. Hawk. It's the A.J. Hawk. It's in studio. Hey, I appreciate you mentioning my truck being found. I'd like to thank the men and women of the police department. They called me on my way here. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Thank you, cops. They located my truck. It was in an apartment complex somewhere. Don't have keys for it. Can't figure it out. If they're going to tow it, then we'll figure it out later. But, yeah, thank you guys for following. Hey, let's go.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Thank you, police. Now, we don't know if the police were snooping around and they found a big red truck of A.J. Hawk that had the license plate that says A.J. Hawk, a Iowa State legend. Or if somebody from Twitter maybe saw it because hashtag PMS wears A.J.'s truck has been trending for 24 hours. Yeah, no big deal. And it's not because of our presence on the internet.
Starting point is 00:02:47 It's strictly because the bots have gotten a hold of it. Because we have Cash App giveaways, which is what the hashtag PMS Where's AJ's Truck giveaway was. And today's Cash App Day. So everything that's involved with Cash App, the bots have picked up. And they're all trying to win stuff. They don't even know what they're winning. But they're sending motivational speeches saying, hashtag PMS, where's AJ's truck?
Starting point is 00:03:08 So that thing's probably going to go for the next 24 hours. We need to put up a call sign. Hey, we know where it is. We found it. Thank God somebody on the internet maybe told the police where your big red truck was or the cops found it themselves. This is a good day, though. You get that scrap of metal back.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Hell yeah. Good day. So you're saying all bots aren't bad are these good bots then so these are bots that are deployed by? Super smart human beings to win contests and giveaways really that's the thing Deploy you deploy the boss find the human behind the bots though when you try to send the the prize you kind of can because like there will be some bot entries into some of our Twitter stuff and You can you know you can kind of track some back to who seems to be connected, who seems to be doing stuff. That's only if you're doing giveaways like two, three times a week, and you're kind of in the Twitter algorithm every single day.
Starting point is 00:03:55 But yeah, the bots are trying to get money for somebody at the end of the day. So maybe it's a good bot for the winner. I think everybody else hates them, though. It seems like a lot of people think they're cheaters and stuff like that, AJ. Is Elon still buying Twitter? Do we know? Well, Elon made quite a proclamation today, and Elon is buying Twitter, by the way. That has been passed, I
Starting point is 00:04:12 believe, by the board. Congrats, Elon. Congrats, Elon. Wait, same initial price, or what? Nah, I think it has been just a little bit. Better take a few bill off of that, right? Well, yeah, especially because all these bots that are faking a lot more than they were giving off there. But Elon made an announcement today, a proclamation that during our lifetime, AJ, yours, mine, Nick's, probably Connor's. Hopefully.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Dig's. Maybe. Foxy. Probably not your older brother back there. He's old as fuck, that guy. You know what I mean? Ryan Hawk back there. You missed cut.
Starting point is 00:04:37 And who knows how long Bill will be living for. True. But in our lifetime, humanity will be on Mars. Be at Mars. Pretty sweet. Humanity will reach Mars in your lifetime. Elon Musk tweets on Elon Musk's platform of Twitter. And I think that's awesome news.
Starting point is 00:04:51 There's more UFOs and shit bouncing around the planet every single day. It's mind-blowing. But AJ, yeah, we're going to fucking Mars and Elon owns Twitter. So have you talked to Jim Irsay after hearing this news? Because I would think he would be the most excited hearing this about Mars. He wants a flying car. They say the future's in my hand. I don't want it to be in my hand.
Starting point is 00:05:09 I'm not like this generation. I'm not going to spend seven hours on my phone. I was told a flying car was on the way. What if Jim gets a flying car and gets to take that thing to Mars, and he puts it on game for the Indianapolis Colts, the official team of Mars? So Elon actually said the other day in a press conference, talking about flying cars, he would never do it because they're too loud
Starting point is 00:05:29 and people would be scared of it above them. Oh. What about the electric ones that are super quiet right now where people, like they're one person, almost like Uber air shuttles. They already have those. Helicopters, right? Yeah, but they're like drone for humans. A human sits basically on an electric drone.
Starting point is 00:05:47 It can take you to your lake house. That's commercial or just the engineers? No, I think it's coming. They already have prototypes. We got that rocket pack old buddy. Paisanos from Zapato. That one's very loud. Are you talking about the water backpacks
Starting point is 00:06:04 that you took to a jet ski? No, no, those are the ones you're standing on, by the way. Have you ever got one? Sweet. Yeah, you stand on it. That's not a backpack. You stand on it. And it just shoots water out?
Starting point is 00:06:11 Yeah, and you can move it and control it alongside a jet ski, yeah. I have done it one time. How was it? Well, I fucking ate shit. I would think over and over again. You just continue. Yeah, but some people are really good at it where they're able to like dolphin and then they come back up. I did not.
Starting point is 00:06:26 I, you know what I mean? And it was, I thought about coming back up, but then I realized I was just getting shot, you know, underwater. So are you drowning? Like what if you can't
Starting point is 00:06:33 angle back up, you're drowning? I didn't necessarily enjoy it. I don't think I'd ever do it again, but yeah, it's certainly one of those. What about the jetpacks? Yeah, jetpacks are over there. Those are there with the ones on the hands, right?
Starting point is 00:06:42 Those are the ones you're talking about where the guy was flying around building the ship. Yeah, way around. Yeah, way safer. Can't drown. Go ahead. Before I caught the sense that you were about to move on, and before we do, I didn't want him to get out of this,
Starting point is 00:06:55 but because he told us when he came in, the amount of shit and semen that was found in his truck was on biblical proportions, I was told. Did they blue light the seat? They jerked it off an elephant, basically, in his car. That's who stole it? Was it a zookeeper? A zoologist, maybe? One of those people that like fucking animals?
Starting point is 00:07:14 Weirdos? Sick fuckers? What is that called? Bestiality? So you're saying some bestiality folks stole your car? Or is that you? I think the jury is still out because the car has not been opened yet. The police officer who I talked to. Oh, I thought they said they sniffed semen.
Starting point is 00:07:28 No, no. He said outside looks okay. It smelled like one of those trees. Well, that was my first question. Well, I said, how many gallons of semen do you see inside on the seats? And he said, sir, I don't know right now. It looks to be two to three. Two to three gallons.
Starting point is 00:07:41 That's a lot of kids swimming around. I need a lot of the vacuum with the fluid in it. I'm cleaning carpets. The wet jet. It's called a wet jet. There you go. Sure. Steam cleaner.
Starting point is 00:07:52 I need a steam cleaner. All right. Let's move on. Speaking of gallons of semen, Michael Bauco is reporting that the Seahawks, Panthers, Bucks, and Lions are all interested in Baker Mayfield. Now, everybody seems to have a source on the Baker Mayfield situation. Ian Rappaport yesterday just said, Seattle ain't, meh.
Starting point is 00:08:15 That ain't happening. But then Jocena goes, well, maybe Seattle's putting that information out because if they don't land Baker Mayfield, they can say they've always been, mm, and it doesn't kind of dunk on Drew Locke or Geno Smith, the current situation that they might end up having as their starting quarterback situation. So there's a lot of bullshit floating out there. I'm not saying Michael Balco is full of shit at all. We like Balco.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Yeah. I only like old Mikey Balco. Hey, good guy. Hey, Mikey B. Hey, Mikey B. Cream in the clear? Yeah, what's that? The cream in the clear, right?
Starting point is 00:08:44 Is that him? I think the what? The cream in the clear, right? Is that him? Yeah. I think. The what? The cream in the clear. That's what. Remember, that was the juice that they would rub on themselves. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:50 No, no. Balco is screwball. Is what you're talking about? Different Balco. Same name. Very different. Balco with a C is the screwball. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:58 This is insider Balco. Mikey Balco, to be exact. He said that teams that he's heard that have interest in Browns, QB, Baker Mayfield. Now, Mikey B does not explain who he heard this from. Never. Mike Bauco does not reveal his sources because Mike Bauco, unlike that screwball, is a professional. That's right. Bauco, Seahawks, Panthers, Bucks, Lions.
Starting point is 00:09:19 All very fascinating answers. Seahawks and Panthers, everybody knows, are in the quarterback market, allegedly. Now, Jimmy G is also going to be available, everybody thinks, as soon as he gets healthy enough to become available. And his contract, much more manageable than Baker Mayfield's $18.5 million guarantee contract that he is staring down
Starting point is 00:09:36 right now. So, I'm not saying Baker or Jimmy G is better. I'm just saying most teams are going to look at the business side of this and understand that $18.5 million is going to come alongside Baker Mayfield. And now basically no money is coming alongside Jimmy G if you were to sign him after the San Francisco 49ers release him, if they were to do so and save themselves $20 million, which we thought they would do last year. They did not.
Starting point is 00:09:57 All signs pointing to Trey Lance starting this year. Let's assume they're going to potentially cut Jimmy G to save $20 million if they can't trade him. Even though they said that's not the case, let's just assume with a brain that that's maybe going to potentially cut Jimmy G to save $20 million if they can't trade him. Even though they said that's not the case, let's just assume with a brain that that's maybe going to happen. When you think about the Bucs and the Lions entering the picture here, though, AJ, it makes sense for the Bucs, right? Blaine Gabbard's down there, who's an absolute dog.
Starting point is 00:10:15 I love Blaine Gabbard. Kyle Trask, the kid they drafted out of Florida, he's also down there. Could be a guy, right? Everybody knows that these guys could be guys. But if you're looking for a quarterback of the future, and you get guy that could maybe sit behind tom brady for a year you know maybe that changes the immaturity thing for baker mayfield that is being reported as a bunch of we don't believe it by the way we don't believe it we're just saying this is being reported that could be a big benefit for baker don't you think one of the situations is this the first
Starting point is 00:10:39 we're hearing it's the first i'm hearing bucks and lions right me too mikey b broke the news we said whoa whoa looky here. Whoa, Mikey B. Okay. Are there other teams, though, that are under the radar we haven't thought of? That makes me think, yeah, another team that we haven't even been talking about might jump up and trade for a guy like Baker, right? Yeah. But the Lions.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Evie, what do Lions fans think? They spend all the money on their offense, too. No, no, no. The whole plan when we traded for Goff was to have him for two years. He'd be our bridge quarterback, and then we're going to stink. So far, so good. We've done that. We'll stink again, and then we're going to stink. So far, so good. We've done that. We'll stink again, and then we'll be able to draft our quarterback next year.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Ohio State guy, Alabama guy. There's no reason to add $18 million. And Baker Mayfield, we're already in the offensive. Baker's a good Detroit guy, wasn't he? Yeah, he's gritty. That's what everyone's doing. A lot of people are like, MCDC, gritty. Baker, gritty.
Starting point is 00:11:22 They'd be a great match. That's not how it works. They both love ball. What do you mean? They love ball. If you win games, thatDC, gritty. Baker, gritty. They'd be a great match. That's not how it works. They love ball. What do you mean? They love ball. If you win games, that's how it works. Well, yeah, if they win games, it doesn't matter. But just because you're gritty doesn't mean you win games.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Well, I think Detroit has proven that. Does Baker want to go to the Bucs, though? Does he want to go sit behind Tom? I didn't think of it at first. And when you mentioned that, yeah, maybe it would. Maybe it'd be a nice little learning season for him. Maybe he'd get some garbage time at the end. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:44 If you're going to sit behind somebody. Yeah, Tom. I think everybody on earth would be like, oh it would. Maybe it'd be a nice little learning season for him. Maybe he'd get some garbage time at the end. I don't know. If you're going to sit behind somebody. Yeah, Tom. I think everybody on earth would be like, oh, okay. But then is he in line to take the gig, though? Let's say, okay, Tom could easily play two more years, right? Well, I think in my bet man right now, he's got one year left. Yeah. Okay, so then is Baker?
Starting point is 00:12:01 $375 million already been announced. If he doesn't lose. That's a lot. $375 million. If he loses. There's no lose. That's a lot. $375 million. If he loses. If he loses, Baker's the starter, though, once Tom retires. Yes. They're not just going to crown him.
Starting point is 00:12:10 He better show a lot in those practices, I guess, when he's running the scout team cards. Well, I think just in the building, the whole thing, I think they'll know, right? Todd Bowles will probably say, hey, we'll know. And Tom will probably give a pretty good – How nervous would Baker be if he knows he's performing for Tom and they're going to ask Tom every day hey how's it going
Starting point is 00:12:25 what do you think once you're getting paid 80 million a year by Fox you think this guy could run the franchise what do you think what do you think Tom will say will Tom say yes
Starting point is 00:12:33 because he knows he won't be as good would Tom have pure intentions with the answer he gives if you want to see it blow up we'll see it blow apart exactly because I mean I think
Starting point is 00:12:42 I think it was Howard Stern gave the quote I forget who he was talking to he was talking, because I mean, I think it was Howard Stern gave the quote. I forget who he was talking to. He was talking to somebody who was in an interview. It was fascinating. And that person left wherever they left.
Starting point is 00:12:52 And he said, how'd you feel about them? You hate them or whatever? And he was like, no, I wish them well. And Howard goes, not me. Everywhere I leave,
Starting point is 00:12:58 I hope it blows up and goes bang. And I was like, God damn. That's probably a lot of people. He just publicly said that. Like, I don't know how many people are thinking that inside,
Starting point is 00:13:06 because I honestly had never heard that thought, but it makes sense that some people would feel that way. And I don't know if Howard still feels that way. I'm just telling you, I heard this in a clip. I would bet Howard still feels that way. Okay, and he might have just been making a metaphor. I might have caught the conversation out of context. But him saying that made me go like,
Starting point is 00:13:21 oh, there's some motherfuckers that are, they feel like that is the case, even though everybody has to recognize that once one person leaves, there's some motherfuckers that are, they feel like that is the case, even though everybody has to recognize that once one person leaves, there's probably other people that are leaving. It's a completely new team every single year. So judging on past experience, I don't know. That's a very, I think, short-sighted view.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Not a real, obviously. Well, Howard's made, he's getting paid a hundred and some million still. Oh, yeah. Wait, doesn't Howard want to run for president or something? Howard's done it. I know he's getting mad. He gets mad a lot now at people in different situations, what's been going on.
Starting point is 00:13:47 But I thought he wanted to run for something. Okay, why do you think people do that? Do you think they just get to the point where they're like, we have to. I feel obligated to give my point of view. To grandstand on people or what? Whoa, whoa. See, I don't know what he's doing. See, I used to listen to Howard's interviews back in the day.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Are you talking about these horses that everybody seems to be pulling out of their barn? He's definitely one of those guys right now. Is he? Oh, yeah. What is he most mad at? He's upset. I've seen his things where he gets mad at people who have a get-together or a party, right?
Starting point is 00:14:16 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've seen that. But he's not just mad about COVID. It's a lot of things, I think. I thought when all his photos came out, he just kind of decided to keep it down for a little, and he has been been grinsed in it. So I don't know about any of the stuff that you all are alluding to. It feels like there's a lot of innuendo happening here.
Starting point is 00:14:30 I haven't kept up with it enough. I know I've seen headlines pop up like Howard says something. How dare they do this or say this? But I think this is a thing that happens. And I think we see this in a lot of sports, folks. And it happens even in entertainment world, clearly, obviously. People just feel obligated. Like, hey, I have a platform.
Starting point is 00:14:49 If I don't speak my mind, I will have regrets forever. Is that what people think? Like Joaquin Phoenix with the cows and the milk. Why are we taking milk from the tits of a cow? I think a lot of people are just like, oh, people want to hear my opinion. Well, that's what I'm talking about. Is that ever thought of? A lot of times it's done to pander.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Most people do it to pander to people so they get them on their side. If I say this, I know this whole group of people will be on my side. Yeah. I'm not saying Howard's doing that, but in situations that does happen, I don't think that's the case here. Yeah, this isn't about one particular person. I saw a lot of people saying that what Howard said was taken out of context, like you mentioned earlier. So people heard a clip of something he was saying that he would run for president, and then headlines ran with it. Like, oh, Howard Stern's going to run for president.
Starting point is 00:15:30 He did, at least at one point, for a long period of time, like four hours a day. So there is shit that he has probably said and done, if you take it out. It's like, I got respect for Howard Stern, the way he's run his business, and he's still making $100 million a year. Is he really? Working like two or three days a week? He's still making $100-some million a year. He figured it out, man. So I got nothing but respect for that. Nothing but respect for that.
Starting point is 00:15:50 But I do feel like all the people that end up getting super-duper political, which a lot of people do, it feels like. Keith Olbermann. I know he's jumped into that game. Keith? He's gone. He's not even in sports anymore. He's not even in sports.
Starting point is 00:16:01 He was what? Was he CNBC? Whatever he was, he had a legit political show. It wasn't sports. And now, I know he likes to save dogs, which is great. Oh, let's go. He saves dogs? Check his Twitter out.
Starting point is 00:16:12 It's five trillion dog posts about trying to save dogs. I'm like, good for you. You're trying to save dogs. I love dogs, too. But it feels like everybody gets to a point. By the way, shout out to saving dogs. You can't be mad every day, all day. Yeah, like, hey, you're still.
Starting point is 00:16:24 I'm going to be like, what makes you happy, bud? What are you like? What are you doing? Being mad. You're right, Connor. They might just love being mad. You're all the time. Makes them feel alive.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Yeah. That's unbelievable to me. I think I've encountered a couple of those humans throughout my life. I think I'd have a heart attack eventually. I don't get it. What are we doing? What are you doing? Why are you so mad?
Starting point is 00:16:41 You know what they like. What really gets them off. What really makes them go from 6 to midnight. What's that? Saying, I'm a better person than you are. Oh, yeah. Well, we do that a lot on this show, and once we get into it, it's awesome because I'm definitely a fucking better guy than you and you.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Not true. There's no questions asked about that. AJ, definitely. Way better than me. Yeah. You can have it. That's what you got to do. If Oldman comes to me and tells me how much of a better person he is,
Starting point is 00:17:01 I'm like, yes, you are, Keith. Thank you very much. No, I know. If Oldman does that, you certainly do that, and he tells you that every day, although I do not follow him. It seems like you do. I know. I check in every once in a while, though. But I want to like... Oh, it's a cat. Not a dog. You know how...
Starting point is 00:17:14 Oh, there's a dog. There it is. We are currently scrolling through Olbermann's Twitter account. Luna. It's a lot of dogs. I don't know how Olbermann got brought into this. Maybe he's not into politics anymore. He's into dogs. Oh, so he's just kind of like pounding the drum for missing dogs. Everybody gets into politics, it seems like nowadays at this scale. Everybody
Starting point is 00:17:29 that grows just gets into politics, and they're smarter than everybody. They're better than everybody. And I hope everybody continues to do that. We appreciate it. Keep it going. We appreciate you saving the world. Hopefully one day we get to that point. Let's talk more about a little football. Speaking of saving the world, the analytics people did that, didn't they? Could you imagine what football would be like without the analytics people in 2022
Starting point is 00:17:48 honestly it was quite a weapon there for a while i think bill belichick right was the founder of utilizing analytics with ernie what's his face and i don't say that other people didn't look at analytics other teams have used analytics since the beginning of time third and five trends and all that shit that's analytics can you yeah can you just what for someone that doesn't know what you're talking about what is what would analytics be so it's all percentages of things that are going to happen and it becomes the main focus they try to predict what you should do in certain situations right yeah and although they're only using like 50 some percent or 60 some percent as absolutes which is what inevitably happened with analytics it started becoming well if there's a little bit of a majority or a higher percentage a little bit more like 55 of the time this is going to end up good
Starting point is 00:18:29 and they were betting on that motherfucker like it was 95 of the time there that thing that is when analytics got too crazy but bill and ernie kind of began this entire thing where they started looking into the averages and what's normal what is and it became like a part of their game plan but they had football with it. What it seemed to have taken place over the last couple of years, and it might just be on media, I don't think we need to throw this into the league itself, but like every decision is scrutinized
Starting point is 00:18:54 and judged by a group of people strictly off of what the past numbers have said. Now, past outcomes cannot predict future ones at all. Unless it's 100 to zero, there's still a chance one's coming. So anytime somebody thinks something's absolute can change anything. And the analytics world has certainly gotten very powerful, very, very powerful, which is good for the game. John Robinson, GM of the Titans,
Starting point is 00:19:15 came out and said, yeah, but it's about fucking football. Run this thing. Where we are with analytics, is there a nice fine line on being on the front end of the curve in your mind do you think that's your responsibility to make sure that you're open minded to it however you're still very cognizant of not getting over your skis so to speak yeah and that's i mean that's what that's one thing you know with with social media and the digital age and everything is so you know sometimes it drives me crazy with all the stuff that gets set out there and everybody's an expert. You're right. And we incorporate some analytical data into some of the decisions that we make.
Starting point is 00:19:57 But, I mean, I'd say 90% of the decisions we make is we put the film on and we watch the guy play football. Because at the end of the day, that's what it's about. Does the guy play football pretty good? I mean, you're hiring the guy to play football. Does he play football pretty good? We're talking like – Not look at a bunch of numbers.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Evaluating players using analytics? And all that. There's a part of that situation. So I think my favorite part of that is he used analytics to describe how much he uses analytics. 90% of the time using just how he uses football. 10% maybe analytics and stats and data. Joining us now, not only A.J. Hawkins' studio, but the host of the Man to Man podcast, nine-year
Starting point is 00:20:30 NFL vet, ladies and gentlemen, Darius Butler. Hey, D-Bud. Yo, fellas, what's up? Hey, thank you for joining us, D-Bud. Did you hear what John Robinson just said about analytics and saying watching football? Do you think there's going to be a downturn in the analytics conversation in the NFL since all we've really heard since the beginning of analytics becoming the focal point of the conversation is like, this is the future,
Starting point is 00:20:50 this is the future, this is the future. Then you get some football guys in powerful positions like, can the fucking guy play football or not? What are your thoughts on it all and what do you think the trend is going to look like in the future, D-Bud? I think we'll still use analytics. I think it'll continue to grow.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Unfortunately for some fans, fortunately for other fans, you can even see what some of the hires with GMs, like some of these guys just coming over with no football background, but they know the numbers. And I actually talked to a GM last, not a GM, sorry, somebody in the front office last season.
Starting point is 00:21:22 He was like basically second or third in charge. So he'll probably be a GM in a couple years. And he told me, like, knowing football is, like, a bonus for them, like the personnel guys, which kind of shocked me. What the fuck? Yeah, so it was, like, this is a bonus because he wanted me to work with him, you know, being, like, a consultant, teaching him some of the football things because the guys that do, that can blend analytics and actually pass the eye test,
Starting point is 00:21:46 even like Chris Ballard. He was a coach before he played the game, so he knows the game, and he also knows the front office part of it as well. So I think you want to find a perfect balance. Obviously, that's hard to do, but I think analytics will continue to grow and be used more and more in the game. D-Bud, how do they use these analytics to evaluate these players? Like you're saying you're evaluating a guy at the combine or whatever.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Are they comparing their numbers to other players' numbers? I'm thinking analytics like, hey, in this position, where we are on the field, you should go for it here. That's how I'm talking analytics. Yeah, but like in the history of the game, there's somebody that's this tall. Oh, I don't care. That's fast.
Starting point is 00:22:20 I don't care about all that. No, but that's what they do. I've never thought of analytics that way. Honestly, I never have. They take out the brain, the heart, everything. But when it comes to evaluating players, I don't think of using analytics. Like using, hey, this person was this height and this tall. I understand you need body size.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Yeah, all of that matters. Yeah, but can the dude play? I guess I'm old school like John Robinson. So 67% of the time, a player that is this fast, this tall, this goes on to become a good player okay all right see i never i honestly never thought of it that way analytics to me is like okay third and third and four backed up here if we get in fourth and two here we should go for it there's a 54 chance we'll get it that's on field shit i completely agree that happens but there's a lot
Starting point is 00:22:58 of like with this build this speed this size this is the success rate and it's like how the fuck do you know like what the person you know what i mean i feel and i might be wrong because you guys played vastly different positions than me that were much more important in my position but just watching like we had no fucking idea if a guy was going to be a guy or not like i honestly i think you have no you have all the clues like hey this guy seems to work hard he seems to be fast what if he gets injured fucking week one he's never the same you know like do analytics take into account like attitude like d but no i don't think so what if okay what happens when we pay this guy if we pay him is he
Starting point is 00:23:33 gonna be a turn even like the locker room the meeting room uh analytics it's a great tool even when you like breaking down film as a player because you can't watch every game every snap but say you watch three four games you get some formation get some tendencies and because you can't watch every game, every snap. But say you watch three, four games, you get some formation, you get some tendencies, and now you can look at the data and the numbers and say, okay, that can kind of fill in some blanks. But I don't think you should ever go into something, even game time decisions. Like you said, you know, third and fourth backed up.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Should we go for two here? Like I think you should have the feel of the game. Sometimes a player may have gotten hurt. You may have lost your right wing on the punt team, and that's going to impact if you're going for it. So that's where analytics can't factor in until the game is over, and then it says, okay, this is what happened. This is good.
Starting point is 00:24:19 This is bad. But, I mean, I'm no expert. I worked with the PFF guys a lot last year, and they can tell you a lot of the flaws in it, but then when you come out and you put a product out there, I mean, I'm no expert. I worked with the PFF guys a lot last year, and they can tell you a lot of the flaws in it. But then when you come out and you put a product out there, you know, people buy into it because it's data. It is data, and data, you know, dominates everything at this point. Stats back up every argument.
Starting point is 00:24:36 We've talked about this. Any argument. Any argument you want, you can find some stats. Absolutely any argument. Stats are awesome because they're on every team of every argument yep okay there's always some stat that every person on every side of every argument pulls out of their ass that might be real but does it matter is that the finisher is that stat the finisher i don't think it is because you know what there's gonna be one coming back on the other
Starting point is 00:24:59 side i hate that we even have to talk about it but i do like that gm john robinson kind of open up a little bit more of the football side because sometimes if you watch some of the coverage of football, when a coach makes a decision, a field decision, it feels like, hey, I feel like my team can go right now. It feels like we're hot right now. We're a little cold right now. And it doesn't work out.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Those numbers just get thrown in these coaches' faces and thrown in the quarterback's faces like, hey, the percentage of this catch versus that catch. Like in the moment, that's a tough thing to fucking just calculate. Obviously it's good to have good Intel and good brains and everything like that. But that analytics convo is only going to continue to grow and grow and grow as we learn more and more.
Starting point is 00:25:37 And if it ain't an absolute, I don't want to fucking hear it. There's no absolutes in football though. There isn't. That's what the, that gets forgotten about though. I think that's analytics that's analytics that's you know if he got that dog in him or not you know some guys you know get nervous and you know shit shit happens if it's so tough to i mean f1 baseball shit like that analytics okay give me all the analytics in the world but football uh it's still a level of violence in there. Like the great Mike Tyson said, everybody got to play until they get punched in the mouth.
Starting point is 00:26:09 So that shit changes everything. Hey, that was pretty good Pittsburgh easy there, pal. The mouth. The mouth there. Okay, let's move on. Mikey B, okay, Michael Balco. No relation to Screwball Balco. No relation to Screwball Balco. No relation to, hey, Balco. No relation to screwball, Balco.
Starting point is 00:26:26 No relation to, hey, chew on this gum. It'll ignite your testosterone boosters for this at bat, and then we won't be able to fail a test literally immediately after this bat. No relation to that, Balco, we don't think. This is Michael Balco. He says that he has heard Seahawks, Panthers, we've all heard that about the quarterback position, Bucs, and Lions are all interested in Baker Mayfield. So we have no idea what Mikey B's
Starting point is 00:26:51 connections are, sources are, but that did start a new conversation. Josina said, look out for the timeline today to be affected in a tweet yesterday. She seems to be tight with the Browns, so we'll see what we learn. Him to the Bucs is fascinating D-Bud behind Tom Brady right I don't know if they can take on 18 and a half million dollars but the future there a quarterback I guess not sealed not signed him going there does that open up another avenue of teams that we have been missing that might be interested in Baker Mayfield services you think D-Bud I mean the Bucs I mean I mean who do you want there's no better guy to be behind than Brady. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:27:27 Obviously, Baker is talented. We saw him come in and play that. I never obviously even thought about that scenario, but now Todd Bowles, you know, being in his second stint as a head coach, having Brady on, you know, maybe a year, maybe two more years, you know, you got TV waiting for him on the other side.
Starting point is 00:27:42 That could be a contingency plan. I mean, that would be awesome for Baker, I think. And obviously, you know. You tv waiting for him on the other side that could be a contingency plan i mean that that would that would be awesome for baker i think uh and obviously you know you think baker would like that not having to take a crap shoot in the draft you know what you got with baker and like i said all the time with baker i think the more answers that baker mayfield has pre-snap the better player is that's why he was so great great in college like he it was it was all spread out he knew what he had to do and and he just had to make accurate throws. And obviously he's shown he can do that when healthy. You think Baker will take that job as backup to Tom Brady?
Starting point is 00:28:11 It's fucking Tom Brady. Exactly. Exactly. I think that's one of the situations where you look. I mean, I would at least if I'm in his shoes. You're getting $18 million this year anyway. Maybe you get a little bridge deal, and then you have the opportunity to get, who knows, two years from now, if he's playing well,
Starting point is 00:28:28 he can make him $50 million a year down the line. And you know Brady at some point is going to have to hang it up. He's 44 going into this year. So if I was him, if I was his representation, I would strongly consider that move. D-Buck, you know what? We were thinking with the Lions coming into the equation, I think, what about green bay what was that an option for for baker mayfield who knows how much longer aaron plays but if aaron plays two three more years i guess
Starting point is 00:28:52 you could go learn from him maybe go jump off somewhere else he's one of those other guys right that you would sit behind and be like yeah it's fucking aaron baker mayfield would absolutely to sit in meeting rooms every single day with aaron and just to watch him practice i feel like would be unbelievable for him. It would be awesome for anybody. But Baker, like, could you ever see that happening? I feel like A-Rock got a lot more. Yeah. A lot more treasure. I feel like A-Rock can play another three years. Well, he does.
Starting point is 00:29:17 And it's I mean, shit. Brady had an MVP year last year, too. But he's a little older. Obviously, we know what's waiting for him on the other side. And, you know, Tampa, Green Bay. Whoa. Whoa, whoa, whoa. What are you saying? You're saying people, they would rather go to somewhere warm?
Starting point is 00:29:35 Yeah. You freaking asshole. You don't know. What a bad guy you are. You don't know that. Hey, Green Bay is so small, by the way. It is tiny. You land there. I landed there for that last game went to UConn. Hey, Green Bay is so small, by the way. It is tiny. You land there.
Starting point is 00:29:46 I landed there for that last game when I was calling the Lions versus the Packers. And it feels like you're landing on Antarctica, right? Because there isn't really. Nothing. There's no collection of buildings that really breaks up the fucking. There's no real mountains around to look around. It's just. Good old Appleton.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Sounds terrible. I'll tell you what. You go to Appleton. I'd much rather summer in Green Bay than Tampa Bay, though. I promise you that. Oh, yeah. One million percent. We're talking about football.
Starting point is 00:30:07 But the other 11 months. I'm talking about life, Con Man. The other 11 months, though, probably Con Man probably got in there and got right to Hawker. It's good. You love Green Bay? Why didn't you live there full time? I did.
Starting point is 00:30:19 What do you mean? I'd come back to Ohio for like five weeks or so and then boom, right back. Oh. You still got a house over there? You still live there? I don't have a house. You don't have a house? I don't right back. Oh. You still got a house over there? You still live there? No, I don't. I don't have a house. You don't have a house?
Starting point is 00:30:27 I'm somewhere in Green Bay. What are you talking about? If I had to choose a place in June, July, and August, I would much rather go to Green Bay than Tampa. Okay. Really? Why'd you take five weeks off? 17,000% humidity down there.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Why'd you take five weeks off? I would never take time off in the summer. I'm talking, this is the winter. Like, season ends, go home, recharge the batteries, come on back. Oh, okay. now you're back. He's an Ohio guy. Ohio Trump's all for you. He can't.
Starting point is 00:30:48 You're an Ohio guy. Correct. He just sounds like a clown. He knows he's wrong. Well, that and being an Ohio guy. Did you see the other Ohio fucker walked in here? Yeah, I saw him. AJ's older brother.
Starting point is 00:30:58 AJ's older brother walked in here. Elias. Yeah, he's Ezekiel, this guy. Just fucking yoked up. No, Ryan's always been like a smaller frame than me his whole life. Oh, no. What's this all about? It's not a bad thing.
Starting point is 00:31:10 He was a quarterback his whole life. I was always in the trenches, you know, grinding. He was a quarterback. Oh, what are you trying to say? Were you the quarterback for the Centerville Hawks whenever he showed up and decapitated Craig Herbstreit? He was part of that game. Oh, he's mean.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Oh, he's muted. But he said, yeah. Pat, you got to respect, though, because you used to, in the offseason, too, come back home, stick your feet in the lawn for like 10, 15 minutes, recharge the fucking iron in your blood, and then head back to Indy. What is that? The Monongah—what? Look, you don't get it.
Starting point is 00:31:39 It's one of the confluences that makes— You have to be from Plum to understand. You don't understand. It's what makes us family. Who's your favorite me from Plum to understand. You don't understand. What makes us family. Who's your favorite teacher at Plum? I mean, we hated the teachers at Plum. Where's this guy been? Thank you.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Yeah, Jesus. Just can't think of any of their names now. But most of them. No, I mean, Mr. Smith was a good guy, but he's not my favorite. Good job. We do not have a Mr. Smith. Oh, sorry. Mr. Smithini.
Starting point is 00:32:02 You know, I used to sometimes. All right, your question for D-Butt. Yeah, D-Butt. Micah Parsons is saying him and Trayvon Diggs can be the next Aaron Donald and Jalen Ramsey. Is Trayvon Diggs at that level? Because obviously Micah was up for, you know, defensive player of the year and stuff as a rookie. But is Diggs at the Ramsey level? Or do you think he can get there?
Starting point is 00:32:22 I mean, he can definitely get there. He's still young, I would say, in his quarterback career, but he's super skilled. His ball, he probably has the best ball skills as a defensive player in the league. Whenever you can turn a ball over at a high rate like that, you can definitely separate yourself. Obviously, it's everything else.
Starting point is 00:32:39 It's kind of feast or famine out there for him because he gives up a lot of big plays, gives up big, you know, big yardage. So if he cuts those back, even, you know, just a chunk, you're not going to because he can't be that same player if he doesn't take those type of risks where he turns the ball over at the rate he does. So is he Ramsey level? No, but he can definitely get there. get there. And Micah Parsons is unbelievable. He can rush the passer as good as anyone in the league. And he can go sideline to sideline as good as anyone
Starting point is 00:33:09 as well. So you rarely see that combination of player on this level. That's something you see in high school or maybe college. But you rarely see that in the NFL level. And D-Bud, I heard that Micah Parsons would cross your fucking ass up so hard on the basketball court. I saw his clips.
Starting point is 00:33:26 I must say, very, very impressive for a linebacker. I don't see many linebackers that can go on the court like that. And my power rank is they were down there probably right above the running backs. But no, Micah don't have a chance on that court. What did you say?
Starting point is 00:33:41 I forget. It was hockey players, then it was running backs, then it was linebackers. Wrestlers are in there. You just did the football thing. But, yeah, you're saying they're all in the same. Hey, let's take some charges. Let's shot put the basketball a little bit. Let's run around as hard as we can.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Yeah, rebound, set picks, play hard defense. You know, tone setters. Yeah, need those on your squad. Need those on. What's more likely? For Diggs to pick up better as a defender, cover defender, or drop off in his picks, right? Because he doesn't get as many picks,
Starting point is 00:34:19 not as much as probably the accolades as he had in the past. But if he becomes a better corner and gets like half the amount of picks, that's an upgrade, right? That's like a full upgrade in who he is? Or no? You know what? Give me the picks. Give my offensive ball, like the yards. That's not likely, though, right?
Starting point is 00:34:34 I mean, hey. How many last year? 11. Jeez. To get 11. If he got 7, that's awesome. He's not going to get 11 again, though, right? He shouldn't get that many balls thrown his way.
Starting point is 00:34:44 DeBott, right? Isn't that get that many balls thrown his way. D-Bot, right? Isn't that a crazy amount? That's a crazy amount. I think he tied a Cowboys record. I don't know. I think maybe Cromartie. Like 2007, I think was the last guy to get double. No, Xavier Howard, I think he got 10 a couple years ago.
Starting point is 00:34:58 But 11 is, I mean, that's kind of like one once in a life. But like I said, his ball skills. And he was a wide receiver at Alabama for a couple years. He's a punt returner. So his ball skills are elite. Playing 17 games a year. I mean, he's a guy who could be a 7, 6, 7, 8 pick. You know, Asante Samuel did it for a stretch.
Starting point is 00:35:18 He can be that caliber of corner. Like I said, he just has to limit the big plays. And he can do that. He can do it. He has a great arm. This is his second year now with his coordinator um and he has other good players um around him even the other corner anthony brown is a good player you got malik hooker back there in his second year in the system as well um you got d lawrence they brought back michael we talked about so they have a good defense built around him uh succeed. Richard Sherman was in this defense as well.
Starting point is 00:35:45 He was a guy. What did he have? 50 probably career interceptions. A lot of picks. So, Trevon Diggs, the sky's the limit for Diggs. I don't think we've seen the best of him yet. Hey, great dad, too. That fucking kid is awesome.
Starting point is 00:35:58 His kid is one. Aiden. Yeah, fucking awesome. Great personality. Hilarious. Confidence. Watch his film. Good comedic timing. That fucker's going to be a guy. Yeah, he's the future. Yeah,ious. Confidence. Watch his film. Good comedic timing.
Starting point is 00:36:06 That fucker's going to be a guy. Yeah, he's the future. Yeah, I'm excited to see what he does. That Diggs family, pretty good. Yeah, good athletes. Stephon Diggs, not too shabby either. Pretty good. Go ahead, Tone Diggs.
Starting point is 00:36:16 D-Butt. Okay, we talked a little bit yesterday about how we see these two teams with a lot of similarities. They're going all in. They added weapons. And their quarterbacks are really the only question. Now, these quarterbacks are Jalen Hurts and Tua. Who of these two would you rather have?
Starting point is 00:36:32 Which team do you see being more successful? Now, you are a Dolph. Let's go. He's a Finns fan. You are a Dolph fan. This is going to hurt me, but I got to say Hurts. I got to say Hurts because his – On any given Sunday
Starting point is 00:36:46 he can be the best runner on the field with his legs, but he's a smart guy, great leader. He has a great arm, got great weapons around him. It's just the mechanical stuff. He gets his mechanics right it's all there for the taking. And that division, I think that division is there for the taking as well. In the AFC
Starting point is 00:37:01 East, you got the Patriots who are always the Patriots. And now you got the Bills and Josh Allen playing, who can easily be the best quarterback in the league next year. So, in that NFC East, I think Jalen Hurts and what they did this offseason, nobody had him in the playoffs last year. Like, absolutely nobody had him. I know they were 7th seed. They got the breaks beat off of them.
Starting point is 00:37:21 But even getting that experience is good for a young quarterback, young head coach, young team. And then you build in a draft like they did this year in free agency, you go get A.J. Brown. The sky is literally the limit for Jalen Hurts, and I think he's a great quarterback, a great player to have in that city too. So I would go all in on Jalen Hurts. D. Bunchman.
Starting point is 00:37:40 I like Tua, though. Yeah, that's what I wanted to ask you about Tua. I wanted to see about Tua. What kind of year do you think he has? He has plenty of weapons. Tyreek Hill, new coach. What kind of year does Tua have,. Yeah, that's what I wanted to ask you about Tua. I wanted to see about Tua. What kind of year do you think he has? He has plenty of weapons. Tyreek Hill, new coach. What kind of year does Tua have, and is this make or break? Unfortunately, it may be a make or break year for him.
Starting point is 00:37:54 But he's got a first-year head coach. I think a first-year play caller, too, with Mike McDaniels. And with Waddle and Hill, it's – like, over in Philly, you have people who have their like A.J. Brown, Devontae Smith. Those are two completely different wide receivers going to give you different things than you have Hurts and his legs. With Tua, I'm interested to see how they make that offense mix. It's a lot, ton of speed. But, you know, we need, you know, third and seven or two minute drive. Are you going to be able to move that ball down the field? We got to see it. I'm not fully as confident as I am in Tua right now as I am in Jalen Hurts.
Starting point is 00:38:30 But I like Tua. It's set up for him. But I wouldn't be surprised if it's a little struggle this year to get going early. But if you give Tua, I'll say, two years with Mike McDaniels as well. It's the first year. It's a lot to take on. Two years.
Starting point is 00:38:45 What is two years? What is it? Two years? What? 2024 will be on Mars! Might as well be 50 years. Jeez Louise. All right, D-Bub, before we let you go. Speaking of Mars, how fast was that shit moving that you posted last night? Yeah. Hey, a couple of marks in there.
Starting point is 00:38:57 18 of it. Paul and Jeece. How about that fucking thing just going in complete control, chilling, and then fucking see you later. I'm out of here. Is it like 10 years old though and we're just seeing it for the first time? Yeah. I. 18 of them. Pulling G's. How about that fucking thing just going in complete control chilling and then
Starting point is 00:39:06 fucking see you later. I'm out of here. Is it like 10 years old though and we're just seeing it for the first time? I don't know. I don't think so. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:39:12 I didn't think this was a 10 year old. I didn't see an alien though. Look at this thing. Yeah. Just fucking showing up in the screen. It was.
Starting point is 00:39:18 This one's sweet. Look at that round shit. See but Pat you told me you see they showed an alien. No they showed a spacecraft. Yeah there's an alien in there though. I didn't say they showed an alien. Yeah, they showed a spacecraft. Yeah, there's an alien in there, though. I didn't say they showed an alien. Yeah, you did.
Starting point is 00:39:26 You said alien. That means a bean. We said UAC. Yeah, come on. That's a bean. UAC. Something you can physically punch. No, unidentified aerial phenomenon.
Starting point is 00:39:35 You can punch that thing right there. You might not be able to. What if you get close and it just forces you? Then who created it? Then who created it? We should just stop. Then who created it? You hear me?
Starting point is 00:39:44 Who created it? That is not flat either. I hope everyone sees that. That is a round shape to the planet. Is this from the International Space Station? You're talking about the Earth? Yeah. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:39:54 As I was watching it on a phone, a smaller screen, it did look a little flat. There's a dude from Dayton, I think, in the space station right now. Call him. Fucking call him. How did a guy from Ohio get into the space station? We gotta change
Starting point is 00:40:05 our space station. You ever heard of Neil Armstrong, bud? Wapakoneta, Ohio. What? First man on the moon. Are you shitting me? Sorry about it. Oh, so now that I know he's from Ohio, it's definitely a lie. We landed on the moon! Wapakoneta, the pride. Wapakoneta?
Starting point is 00:40:22 John Glenn, also from Ohio. Oh, Buzz Aldrin. How about the right bro? We just dominated aviation. My cousin's a pilot, too. So are you. And I've never seen somebody more sick on a flight. Today, we're going to see you puke.
Starting point is 00:40:38 The mountains around us, it's going to be a rough one. You're going to come in. I'd fall asleep for sure. Absolutely. D-Butt, last question here, okay? And I agree that was UAP for sure. It feels like we're going to have extraterrestrial interaction soon. Yeah, it's coming.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Feels like we're on a precipice. The government said it. If they're watching what the fuck is going on down here, they... Could you imagine if they're like, what the fuck are you guys doing? We've been watching. Okay. We just thought we could have a good time. Watch you fucking assholes do your thing.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Now we're watching. You guys are trying to fucking kill yourselves. Can we fucking calm down down here? What if that was it? What if it was a voice of God, like actual megaphone? Hello. Look to the sky. It's just a bunch of these fucking things sitting above us.
Starting point is 00:41:23 You all need to chill the fuck out. All right, see ya. And then they just zoom out of there. What if they love football, though? What if they come to the earth just to watch football? That'd be sweet. What if they want to play, though, and they take a lot of people's jobs? That can't happen.
Starting point is 00:41:36 You can't have aliens taking people's jobs. All right, where's Baker Mayfield playing next season, Darius? On this July 6, 2022, Darius Butler says Baker Mayfield will be a? Seahawk. All right. Yep. When's that happening? Soon, you think?
Starting point is 00:41:54 Well, Josina said tomorrow or today. Yeah. I trust her. She's tied in with that organization. So, tomorrow or today. All right. Well, ladies and gentlemen, nine-year NFL vet makes his prediction on where Baker Mayfield will go.
Starting point is 00:42:08 Last year was Aaron Rodgers' watch. This year, it's Baker watch. And Jimmy. What a difference. And Judge Robinson watch. Where is Jimmy going to go? Hey, he's going to get cut. He's going to end up in Carolina. Boom. Cleveland makes sense to me. That wouldn't be too bad
Starting point is 00:42:24 for him. C-Mac can stay healthy. A one-year deal with Cleveland? Yeah. You have a great team around him. I think Michael Lombardi, I heard him say this somewhere. Why not? Bring Jimmy G in. You know, he can absolutely captain that ship. They have a great team. Boom. Sign a big old deal somewhere else after that year.
Starting point is 00:42:39 Oh my God. That helps the Niners. That helps the Browns. The Browns don't have to have the Baker thing happen. Michael Lombardi is so fucking smart all the time. Ladies and gentlemen, Darius Butler. Just like us, Darius Butler. Thank you, man. There's no way that happens.
Starting point is 00:42:55 That would be sick, though. There's no way. We don't know anything that's going to happen. This offseason was crazy. Russell Wilson's a fucking Bronco. We haven't even really talked about that. Russell Wilson is a Denver Bronco. Drew Locke and really talked about that. Russell Wilson is a Denver Bronco. Drew Locke and Geno Smith are the quarterbacks for the Seahawks right now. This isn't just like, oh, Russell's hurt.
Starting point is 00:43:11 He has a mallet finger and he's out. And Geno Smith and Drew Locke are the quarterbacks. Those are their actual quarterbacks right now. And Russell Wilson is a Denver Bronco right now. That hasn't settled in. Because aside from the Broncos country. That's right. Bronco right now. That hasn't settled in. Because aside from the Bronco's country. Let's ride. Bronco country.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Let's ride. Bronco country. Let's ride. Stop. Don't look at me when you do that. Bronco country. Let's ride. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:43 Aside from that, we haven't really even talked about Russell Wilson being a Fucking Denver Bronco So you're right What could happen next Vaughn Miller is on the Buffalo Bills It's true Like how weird is that
Starting point is 00:43:52 Haven't even seen a photo Signed a giant deal too I don't even think I've seen a photo What number is he wearing I think 40 I thought he was wearing 40 Let's get to a break I'm not sure
Starting point is 00:44:01 We'll figure that out during the break That's also because Like the Chargers added Khalil Mack and J.C. Jackson. A lot of movement for us. We haven't even thought about this. The Raiders got Chandler Jones. It's him and Max Crosby now. And they got Devontae, obviously.
Starting point is 00:44:16 I saw Max Crosby at the UFC event. He looked awesome. Two chains like gum. He's awesome. Chained up like gum. How tall is he? He was sitting down when I walked by him. He's a giant. Big. 6'4", 6'5". Big body. He's awesome. Chained up like gum. How tall is he? He was sitting down when I walked by him. He's a giant.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Big. 6'4", 6'5". Big body. White chocolate jersey. Yeah, he had a J-Wil jersey on. Dog. Max Crosby. Yeah, him and Chandler Johnson.
Starting point is 00:44:33 Who they have? They sent somebody else as well in the secondary. On the back end. Didn't they? I thought. I might be wrong. Whatever the case, yeah, the fucking Raiders are playing. Oh, Devontae Adams.
Starting point is 00:44:43 Jesus. Devontae, yeah. What are we even talking about? He's a Raider. Yeah, he's a receiver. You said the fucking Raiders are playing. Oh, Devontae Adams. Jesus. Devontae, yeah. What are we even talking about? He's a Raider. Yeah, he's a receiver. You said the back end like a safety. No, I know, but then you've seen the brain go. I think Hunter Renfro is still there too, right?
Starting point is 00:44:52 They extended Hunter Renfro. Yeah, you're right. And obviously Waller and Josh Jacobs. They're ridiculous. Raiders might be a team. How many days away from the NFL season? 64 days away. Bro, 64 days.
Starting point is 00:45:03 Max Crosby and Chandler Jones. I remember we talked about that when he signed. Like, those two guys bookend. Are you kidding me? So what, because Crosby can push and then Chandler can... And then Chandler push. Yeah, it's always good if you have one guy bowl, another guy run the hoop almost, and then you can rotate.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Yeah, they could do so much with those guys. And McDaniel's a terrible coach. Doesn't know football at all. It was probably the Rocky Sin trade you were thinking of. Yeah. Send Ngokwe to the Colts. They got Rocky Sin. Bam. I know Rocky sin trade you were thinking. Yeah, oh that's an in Gawker way to the Colts They got Rocky said bam. Hello. Here we go in the secondary. There you go better than Jonathan He better than it was part of that. Yeah, so that was right here. This is what a good time
Starting point is 00:45:36 Back back left. That's right. Where do the bad times live? I think that's an ear back. Yeah, they go they go away It's where the personality is This thing ain't worth a fuck go away. That's where the personality is. This thing ain't worth a fuck. That's where your personality is. This thing ain't worth a fuck. Nope. Kind of crazy when I heard a neurosurgeon say that. Yeah, the right side doesn't really do anything.
Starting point is 00:45:54 It's just an airbag. What's in there? Your personality and your drive and everything. It's pretty fucking important. Hey, can we stop treating that side like it's nothing? That feels like that's a bigger part than ever in the history of humans. All we're back in four minutes uh with some phone calls wrapping up our one on this july 6th good football conversation yeah good football combos today that's because you know why why man's got his truck back hell yeah more with aj in four minutes what a legend what an icon
Starting point is 00:46:20 Man. What a hero. Yeah, AJ. What a guy. Come on, AJ. Welcome back to that show. Hour two on this Wednesday, July 6th, 2022. Shall begin immediately following this beat drop from Twine. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Let's ride. You still had yourself muted, you clown. How come nothing's sacred around here? You know? Some people. This is usually my rejoiner time from the attic. Not just rejoiner. This is normally your first join.
Starting point is 00:46:58 My initial join. Yeah. Intro. How does it feel to do three hours today? You're in the middle of this right now. You carve up for the marathon today? I do sometimes get tired. But no, I feel good.
Starting point is 00:47:08 High energy so far. Oh, how was the drive? Drive was good. I picked up my brother, so he was with me the last two hours. Kept me awake. It was nice. Did you both foot the whole way? I mean, I drove.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Yeah, I drove here. Was there any moments where you were like, you know what? Maybe just drive with one foot like most humans do that don't have to drive stick. No, but my cars are stupid now. now you know like they're spaceships so i parked next to your spaceship actually which is awesome my honda spaceship rental is not and a little thing pops up every two seconds it said or like every 10 minutes i took a picture actually says you might want to take a break and it shows a cup of coffee yeah so i guess if you're swerving at all it tells you that and tells you to pull over. It told me that 50 times.
Starting point is 00:47:46 So that's because you were falling asleep? Why does it need to do that? Because it's reading your heart rate. So whenever you have your hands on a wheel, it's reading your heart rate. When it senses that you are about sleep, which you have done in the past and did this morning with your brother in the car. No, I didn't fall asleep at all, but if you feel at all. Why is the car saying get a coffee? It's because it can feel your heart rate. Because it's like analytics.
Starting point is 00:48:06 You need to take everything into account. Maybe they thought he was all boozed up. Maybe they did. Hey, you're hammered. Go take a 30-minute break. Sober up, pal. Take a cup of coffee. What if it had a cold shower or a little graphic on it for you to have?
Starting point is 00:48:16 Now that we have somebody that came from the same place you did literally and figuratively, I have a question. Ryan, and hopefully we'll have your mic. Do you drive with both feet as well, or is this just an AJ thing? It's just an AJ thing. Okay, a question. Ryan, and hopefully we'll have your mic. Do you drive with both feet as well or is this just an AJ thing? It's just an AJ thing. Okay, thank you. Alright, so you think he's a clown for doing this, Ryan, or no? I mean, I don't have the knee pain
Starting point is 00:48:34 that he's in, which I know is tough, but yeah, I think it's just him. He kind of invented it. I'm wondering if others now do it because he's done it. Only elite race car drivers can do it. No, only elite race car drivers have to do it, not can do it. And I have to do it too. Why? Because your right knee's bad?
Starting point is 00:48:51 Oh, no, because I told you I started it because of injuries and then said this is a much more efficient way to drive. I'm doing this forever now. All right, well, we're proud of you for making it out here. I'm happy your car, though, knows you. That's the problem with AI, right? That car is a rental because his other truck got stolen, which has since been found. But that car knows him better than us after years.
Starting point is 00:49:13 Oh, this fucking big guy's hands seem to get a little bit heavier on this wheel. Is his head bobbing off the back? They probably got a sensor on the back. And that big thing is breaking the sensor as it's bouncing up and down. You have a problem out there. You're a menace, but we thank you for driving out because you in studio is better than you not in studio. Chicago Mayor Lightfoot, who has not been in the news for anything at all, is considering
Starting point is 00:49:36 putting a dome on Soldier Field to keep the Bears around town. So now the Chicago Bears, Soldier Field might be domed up. And I've been talking about this for a long time. Every stadium should have a dome. Every stadium should have turf. Every stadium environment should be 75 degrees, sunny, no wind at all. Let those punts fly through the stadium with the greatest of ease. There's no need for a little side wind or a head wind
Starting point is 00:50:04 or a nightmare twisting circular tornadic wind in any stadium. Let the kickers live a little bit. Let the punters live a little bit. And let your fans know when they show up, go ahead and take the jacket off. Enjoy the moment a little bit. The Wi-Fi will be better with the roof on this thing. What an experience.
Starting point is 00:50:21 So much better for football. A.J. Hawk, your thoughts on every single stadium being a dome, every single stadium being 70 degrees, every single stadium having Wi-Fi, 100 up, 100 down. What are your thoughts on that? 100 down is a lot. It's asking a lot. 100 down. That's why you put the dome in there. I will tell you, it has fiber. Fiber runs through Soldier Field, so the internet's amazing.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Think about how much better it'll get when it has a roof on it. Oh, yes, that's football. Is it a dome or is it a retractable roof? That's a big difference. Well, I think it's going to be a dome. If it's retractable, cool. So we can take it out and play in the 20,000 seats in there, too. Add 20, they're going to build on then, right?
Starting point is 00:51:02 Yeah, so they would have to probably build up a little bit. Or just make them all bleachers. That would add like 30,000 people. That'd be sweet. And if it's 70 and sunny every time, the bleachers are great. Yeah, it'll be warm.
Starting point is 00:51:11 Bleachers are great. Football people are going to hate this. They're going to be so mad about this because Soldier Field is like one of those historic places. But you know what?
Starting point is 00:51:17 Sorry to cut you off. Wimbledon has retractable roofs now. Sure. Which that is like the most historic history. Like, hey, we were so stuck up in Snooty and they have two of them I think in their main courts.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Just real quick. They both have like a great rich history. I have to hate Wimbledon. I have to hate Wimbledon because Wimbledon was on ESPN and ESPN2 while Joey Chestnut took out a protester and ate 63 hot dogs and buns in 10 minutes.
Starting point is 00:51:43 Was on ESPN News. What are we doing? So I hate Wimbledon, even though I know the allure and the respect of it. But what you're saying is the olds have the ability to adapt, you're saying, with modern technology. You can still keep the greatness of the open roof whenever things are happening and nature happens, but at least have the option for if a game is going to be canceled
Starting point is 00:52:02 or a game is going to be had like a Super Bowl or a massive game so that there is an actual field to play on as opposed to letting weather dictate who wins who loses who has the ball on one side of the field uh more than the other just because the wind is going a certain way that buffalo new england game although awesome imagine if that's an afc championship game or an NFC championship game. Nobody's going to be happy. Everybody's going to be pissed about it. I think that is why the dome or the retractable roof is going to grow in popularity going forward. But there's going to be so many people pissed off about it.
Starting point is 00:52:34 There's going to be so many. This is that soft-ass football in the making that's been happening over the years. There's no more contact. You can't kill helmet to helmet. You see very little concussions. And now they got roofs over Soldier fucking field. I mean, I can already hear it happening. Not in Hinesfield.
Starting point is 00:52:52 No, I'd fucking puke. Not in Lambeau. Nope. Not in Gillette. Not in Buffalo. But if you put a retractable dome on there, then it's a 12-month-a-year facility. And if Kanye wants to have a listening party in February, you can have it. So it also will make him a lot more money.
Starting point is 00:53:07 Don't care. Don't want it. You don't, but maybe the people of Chicago do. Zeke, what do they say? Well, Mayor Lightfoot wants it. That means Chicago wants it. Mayor Lightfoot's a goddamn scumbag. Whoa! If I could run for
Starting point is 00:53:22 a mayor to be in Chicago, I would do it in a heartbeat. Who do you want? You want Jussie to win? We want Zito. Zito, what is your deal? Erlacher. What is your problem? Erlacher do well.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Listen. Yeah. Let's just. We don't know the. The Cutler. I just assumed Mayor Lightfoot was speaking for all of Chicago. So I apologize. It's the mayor.
Starting point is 00:53:41 Now I can't think of this city and our mayor and whether or not he speaks for everybody in Indianapolis. Oh, don't get me started on this mayor. Not 100% sure. But, I mean, there has to be a lot of businesses. But, Z, do people like the mayor there? No. Hater. Why?
Starting point is 00:53:55 Is that real or is that just your friends? That's a real thing. Everybody is against mayor-like foot off. Is this a heel play? Is this a heel move by her saying, I'm going to put a dome on a stadium? Like, is this her buying into everybody hating it? She's trying to put a dome on a stadium? Is this her buying into everybody hating it? She's trying to get a Super Bowl, right?
Starting point is 00:54:07 That's all she's trying to get. The land they bought. Arlington, three years or something like that. That's why she's doing this because she wants to keep the Bears in the city. That brings the fans to you because we can't take the Bears out of Soldier Field, so she's bringing them back on her side. That's what she's doing. Arlington Bears are going to have a retractable roof.
Starting point is 00:54:23 And a casino. And a hotel. hotel and a shopping mall bring money to the city yeah exactly they're gonna make all of it yeah they agreed to do the arlington purchase in 2023 so the purchase hasn't gone through yet there's an agreement to do it at a later date what does that mean is this like a um uh tepper in that one city in carolina yeah yeah like that type of deal where it's like, hey, we'll pay for this in the future together, right? Oh, you stopped paying for it? Cool, we're not coming here. I filed bankruptcy. I ain't paying anybody.
Starting point is 00:54:51 Get the fuck out of here. Somebody's going to have to clean up that building we partially built. Yeah. Sounds like, yeah, agreed to terms but have not signed the paperwork. Oh, what a situation. There's a lot of money involved. Yeah. Well, that's like in these negotiations that people have.
Starting point is 00:55:05 They'll say, oh, we're on a one-yard line. There are some goal line defenses that are fucking really good. Oh, yeah. Compress the field. It's tough to score. It's tough to score down there, especially with the way offenses are wide open right now. So in that one yard, three feet, 36 inches,
Starting point is 00:55:21 there's a lot of things that you normally have to get through. And they're normally very small and they're very difficult. So agreeing to terms is good news, but it feels like they might be on one yard line. When people agree to terms, it's like yeah, the overall is good, but we got to get into the finer details of this thing. And you might,
Starting point is 00:55:37 phase zero has been complete, I think, at this point. But you might have A.J. Hawk on the other side playing goal line D. Exactly. You know what I mean? And what happens when the big ohio white with the long hair is doing paul mo flips up over to over the offensive line you're on the one yard line but you might not want to be on the one yard line you'd rather be on the seven or the eight maybe because now you're dealing with the nitty-gritty at this point yeah what happens when it's fourth and goal you know you've made three stops and then that same guy you know he has a pass interference you know, he runs into the running back instead of blocking it.
Starting point is 00:56:07 And then all of a sudden we got, you know, first and goal on the one-yard line. Now you've got four more downs. Sometimes it turns into an eight-down battle. But there's no time left on the clock. There's no time left on the clock, though, I think. But, I mean, there's still an untimed down. So, excuse me, fifth down. Yeah, he's talking about when you jumped over.
Starting point is 00:56:21 Oh, thank you for bringing that up. That was a great win for the Packers. That was a great win. Yeah, you didn't celebrate at all. You were too busy. I chased down the ref, yeah. He still was dead wrong. He knows.
Starting point is 00:56:31 He knows. I don't know who it was. It was Corenti. Was it really? No, it wasn't. Well, if it was Corenti, you start running at him, he would have backed that thing up. That's for Corenti. Well, in the next play anyways, you know,
Starting point is 00:56:42 A.J. jumped over a lineman and ate somebody in the hole. Well, that's what A.J. Hawk does. And that's what I'm talking about. Goal line is not necessarily the easiest. You've got to strain a lot. A lot of strain. Everybody, goal line. Coaches say that.
Starting point is 00:56:53 Strain. Strain through it. The rep, you know, that's the thing. That registered with me. Hey, goal line drill day. Everybody is mad. Everybody hates it. Head coach is super pissed if the defense does well and stop. Head coach is livid. So is the O-line coach. Run hates it. Head coach is super pissed if the defense does well and
Starting point is 00:57:05 stop. Head coach is livid. So is the O-line coach. Run it again! Okay, coach, cool. So we're going to run until they score. I thought this was a drill, right? This isn't a competitive drill. Cool. Alright, cool. I'm killing everybody. That's when everybody just starts submarine it into the offense. Yeah, people start getting very upset
Starting point is 00:57:22 on both sides. Normally where a fight will begin. Go goal line drill day. Usually starts D-line coach, O-line coach start yelling at each other. Well, tell him to stay up! Tell him to stay up! Well, tell him not to hold then! Tell him not to hold then! And then there's one little pop-off. There's one little line that says... One push.
Starting point is 00:57:38 And then an extra, after the whistle, one little off-balance push, and then, well, here we go. The entire team we go the entire team is everybody is so tired too by that point that everyone is fighting super tired and then the adrenaline dump after the fight and then you have multiple reps that are just death after that there's yelling they're screaming there's hands slapping helmets and then there's like 15 whistles going off it is full pandemonium and that is what the goal line drill brings. Which leads us back to
Starting point is 00:58:06 our point. Being on a one-yard line isn't necessarily a good thing. Should have scored before then. Should have got in. So is this a message to Lori Lightfoot? Is she on the one-yard line? No. They agreed to terms. The Arlington Park is on the one-yard line.
Starting point is 00:58:21 They might be in the high red zone. If they agreed to terms, they've gotten into the... High red, you got some room to work with. Yeah, it's pretty good. Take a shot out there. Yeah, we'll get a retractable roof, maybe. No, we're thinking of dumb. Well, what about the parking lot?
Starting point is 00:58:33 How much would... Like, if they wanted to put a retractable roof on Soldier Field, what does that cost? $5 billion? I'm not sure. Like, 800 mil? That's such... That's just a massive amount of engineering. How much was this statement?
Starting point is 00:58:44 $1.8 billion, I think? Yeah, and I believe the city paid for $1.75 billion. That's cheap. That's such a massive amount of engineering. How much was this stadium? 1.8 billion, I think? Yeah, and I believe the city paid for 1.75 billion. That's cheap compared to everything else. Yeah, but we have the retractable roof, and they started from ground zero. So I would assume if you're just adding a retractable roof, I don't think it would maybe— 500 mil? Yeah, probably a few hundred. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:59 $25 to $50 million is what's either just— To put a retractable roof on a soldier? No way. That's just on a dome stadium project. Oh, a dome, not a retractable roof on Soldier? No way. That's just on a dome stadium project. A dome, not a retractable. No, but you are thinking about the foundation that they have to build off of Soldier Field. That's what I'm saying. It's way more than 50 mil.
Starting point is 00:59:13 I'll say $100 million. Lucas Oil was $720 million. People have $100 million houses. 2008, $720 million, that's it? Yeah. And they'll pay for it. Yeah, the city paid for $700 million. If you build it now, it would be $3 billion.
Starting point is 00:59:25 Yeah, but we've also... Well, what they're trying to get to is... Yeah. We learned a lot about a lot of things. You want the taxes to pay for it. If we don't get two Super Bowls, I want to, you know, take it and the whole entire thing out front of Lucas Oil Stadium.
Starting point is 00:59:39 Would you want the Super Bowl here? Oh, it was awesome here. Yeah. It was awesome. It was here. I didn't go to the game, but I was in the parking lot so the weather was perfect yeah so that weather has yet to happen since then in the super bowl yeah it was really nice 65 degrees everything was they got lucky in new york as well no rain no snow i was tailgating with a company with i had a sweet bus it was like a marketing
Starting point is 01:00:01 thing i was doing so i got to hang out and tailgate outside the stadium. And yeah, I was thinking, looking back, it was February and it was awesome. They had a zip line through the city. Sweet. If that zip line is in actual Indianapolis when it normally is, that's 25 degrees on that zip line. So you can go ahead and knock off at least 15 degrees. Because when you're on a motorcycle, they say knock off like 20 degrees. That zip line not going as fast as a motorcycle, but it is suspended up in the sky a little bit more. they say knock off like 20 degrees. That zip line not going as fast as a motorcycle, but it is suspended up in the sky a little bit more.
Starting point is 01:00:28 So probably take off like 15 degrees. Would probably be about 10 degrees. Ain't nobody getting on that fucking zip line. Remember Minnesota? Oh, so cold. I don't think they should have cold weather Super Bowls. Well, that's the enticement of building in a stadium, though. That's why you can get taxpayers to give up.
Starting point is 01:00:43 But the Super Bowl is about everything surrounding the game for the week leading up to it. All the money, all the parties, all the people that spend all the cash that support the NFL. For you as a fan and as a former player, that's the case. But the NFL is like, hey, if you will get taxpayer money to make our stadiums better, we'll give you a Super Bowl. I mean, the NFL
Starting point is 01:00:59 figured it out. The garage hasn't figured it out. Completely figured it out. Well, that's why I went to the podcast to happen, because we've talked about how like all this money like Jerry World makes and like Patriots plays like every team probably wants to have their own little almost community around their
Starting point is 01:01:13 stadium where they can have people in for the entire day and weekend. In those owners meetings when they were going through the amount of money that would be fine to the other team. If a non-vaccinated player
Starting point is 01:01:23 starts a spread of covid and the game gets canceled jerry jones like fuck you're gonna have to pay me 77 fucking million there was 77 million yeah yeah yeah fuck parking lot casino fucking stadium hotel these go-go dancers getting tips what do you think those tips right back to old uncle jerry you fucking got you got it and then uh the patriots are like yeah we're we're going to need like $55 million or $60 million. And you've got these teams that don't own the property around the stadium, don't own the stadium at all. They're looking at these owners going, you're making how much?
Starting point is 01:01:52 The other owners are laughing at them, for sure. Wait, you don't have this? You better figure out a way to start this process. That's exactly what everybody's doing right now. Everybody is trying to find. When I was ending in Green Bay in like 2014 or 15, whatever it was, they were starting that whole deal. They had bought up a lot of the land
Starting point is 01:02:08 and now it's awesome. They got the hills. Bars. Bars. They own it all now, which it's good for everybody. 200 million a year. It's a win-win.
Starting point is 01:02:14 It's a win-win for the fans and them. I mean, who knows how much money Green Bay has. 200 million a year. That's what they had to follow. That's what we know.
Starting point is 01:02:19 I mean, but you know, then, hey, let's open up some stock sale. Here we go. Here's another 80 mil cash infusion. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:02:24 that happened just two weeks ago. Piece of paper. And then you take that and you build new suites on the one end zone. Oh, cool. Here we go. And no owners taking. It's awesome. It's a great spot.
Starting point is 01:02:34 So you have the ability to pay anybody anything you want to pay them. Yeah. So that's why I always wondered, like, well, they offered Devante Adams more money than. Yeah, they did. That was more longevity. Right. And now what happened? like, well, they offered Devontae Adams more money than the Raiders. That was more longevity. Right? Isn't that what happened?
Starting point is 01:02:50 Oh, that's what they say, right? Isn't that what Aaron said? How come that never gets talked about whenever Tannenbaum goes on and says, Aaron Rodgers is prima donna, selfish fucking prick, took a big paycheck, and now he doesn't have Devontae Adams to hurt a ball to? That's what Tannenbaum said. Oh, man, does he really still say that, though? It doesn't make sense. Last week.
Starting point is 01:03:02 Oh, yeah. Said it in his basement last week. We heard it, literally. It seems like we've had confirmation that that's not the case. Yes, we have. Well really still say that, though? It doesn't make sense. Oh, yeah. He said it in his basement last week. We heard it, literally. It seems like we've had confirmation that that's not the case. Yes, we have. Well, what are you talking about? But what are you supposed to say, though? Like, if you're a player, hey, I'm sorry that this team wanted to pay me a bunch of money,
Starting point is 01:03:15 and I said, okay. Is that what you're doing? Who are you talking about? Like, if Tate and Bob are saying Aaron's taking all this money, leaving it, I mean, I understand you want to- No, none of it matters, though. You've got to structure it. Yeah, but he's still offered it.
Starting point is 01:03:24 You structure it so you can bring other teammates on. You don't need to ask a guy to take a big pay cut. Well, and that's why whenever it was announced the way it was announced, you know, how proper, like what the actual contract was as opposed to what it's normally kind of laid out as, oh, this is a six-year deal, a five-year deal. His was announced as what it actually was as opposed to the years that have taken off
Starting point is 01:03:46 money from the salary, to add to the salary cap. So it's all kind of a rehearsed, I believe. It feels like it was a rehearsed attack on old, this guy's pretty Madonna selfish prick. Yeah, I mean, we talked about how stats play for both teams. Like, their anger, or at least Dannenbaum's, has been, instead of talking about how, like, the Packers have never drafted in the first round, Like, their anger, or at least Dandenbaum's, has been, instead of talking about how, like, the Packers have never drafted in the first round, like, a wide receiver or anybody for Aaron, they just talk about the guys that they've drafted in the second
Starting point is 01:04:10 and third round and how they're unbelievable at getting skill positions like Devontae and Jordy and now Watson. Which we agree, by the way. Which they are. Those guys are great, but there's a reason people go in the top ten. It's normally your top whatever first round. It's only because they're fucking physical freaks who run four fours with massive heads
Starting point is 01:04:27 and can do everything like a number five overall pick here. That's why whenever you hear, oh, no first round picks have been used on a Green Bay Packer wide receiver, you have to think to yourself, oh, so like who knows who's going to be a dog, who isn't going to be a dog? But at least, you know,
Starting point is 01:04:41 the physical specimen is why somebody goes in the first round. Like, hey, there is no other this human out there right now especially at the wide receiver position and i'd say the last what four to six years probably going back farther there are absolute monsters coming out every year that yeah day was like eight yeah they step in day one and they are like the number one receiver of that team and they're all pro right i'm like jeez like is every receiver from from these big time schools just a stud right away when there's like seven or eight of them going in the first round yeah and they're all boom yeah pick it up
Starting point is 01:05:13 put them in and you start you don't have to be great with aaron you'd be good and aaron will make you great what are you holding his water for yeah yeah he holds water. Washes his balls. This guy. Absolutely, I'm a big ball washer. I got to watch him firsthand throw the ball. Talk to my brother. He washes Aaron's balls as well. Hey, hold on. I wash the same balls as you.
Starting point is 01:05:35 I'm talking when it comes to football. Greatest football player of all time. I think the release, I think that's what separates him. Obviously, his brain, everything, and his arm strength. But his release is so quick and so he can change. I don't know. That's why I think when I would watch other guys, what sticks out to me. Okay, so.
Starting point is 01:05:51 I've talked to him about his release, too, how he, like, does it. And I'm like, I couldn't even. Bro, he goes like this. He throws like a dart. But he takes, like, his little, he doesn't bring the ball back. He's explaining, like, how he does it. Like, oh, okay. Yeah, but he throws a dart.
Starting point is 01:06:03 Like, when he throws it, it's literally like he's just throwing it. Yeah, flick. He's just throwing darts or whatever. Looks effortless. It is. It's unbelievable. And he's able to put it. That's why I think I'm such a big fan because he don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 01:06:14 He acts nothing like the person that you would think is the greatest football thrower of all time would act. Right? How would you think someone like that should act? Robot. Stereotype. I need to work. I need to do this every single day. I need to work on this.
Starting point is 01:06:26 And Aaron comes in and he's like, I'm just in my free flow state or whatever, man. Just doing my thing. How many balls have you thrown? I've thrown a couple. We've got time for that or whatever. Then he comes back, gets the ball. Where's that net?
Starting point is 01:06:39 Oh, 60 yards away. Okay, let me just... All right, still got it. Okay, good. Let me go win another fucking MVP. It's just... So good. I enjoy it because you don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 01:06:49 He loves it. That is why I like it. I know Aaron talks about, oh, yeah, I could retire or whatever. He absolutely loves it. He loves dominating people. He loves competing. He loves fighting in practice.
Starting point is 01:07:00 Like, if a guy picks him in practice, he hates that dude, bro. Yeah, he threw that ball at that kid. Yeah, so, like, he's... Yeah, that kid. That was a good pick by that kid. He should save that clip. Yeah, he threw that ball at that kid. Yeah, that kid. That was a good pick by that kid. He should save that clip. Yeah, he will. Save that ball, too.
Starting point is 01:07:10 Yeah, get that ball signed. Get him to sign it. I'm sure Aaron will be happy to sign it. Yeah, for sure. Charles, a big dong on it. Here you go, kid. Well, this will be the best defense he's probably had, right? I mean, aside from having A.J. Hawk in the middle.
Starting point is 01:07:20 But this is probably one of the best defenses he's had. They should be. Yes, they should. On paper, they look amazing. So what? The last time they had a top 10 D, they won a Super Bowl or something like that, right? Isn't that what it said? Well, and then there's that stat too where it's like the worst five
Starting point is 01:07:32 Brady defenses were all still in between 10 and 20. And Aaron's worst five are like 32, 32, 31, 31, 32. Yeah, but it's Aaron. Yeah, exactly. And since we said that, guess what we're doing? Washing balls. Of course.
Starting point is 01:07:45 Washing balls. Holding water. Holding water. We gargling Aaron for. Geez, all the time. Stop slurping. This guy, you fucking shows just turn into Aaron Waters show. Well, we cover the NFL.
Starting point is 01:07:57 He's the back-to-back MVP. Yeah. And he comes on our show every single week during the season. Watch a game. I assume we're. Every show's talking about him, by the way. Yeah. I don't know if you know.
Starting point is 01:08:05 We just have a little different take on Oden, which we like him. He's a good guy. Seems like a lot of other people that do the sports do not. Well, a lot of people just look for clips. You know why? Because it gets clicks? Because he doesn't do what they would expect
Starting point is 01:08:21 or hope that person would do. Yeah. And he doesn't give a fuck. Breaks the mold completely when you if you need to know like we said and we've been watching his balls for 20 minutes now but just talk to other players in the league and other athletes around other like you hear like yeah i know a guy a big a big basketball player my wife was doing his house he lives down miami she's doing his house he has like a Mount Rushmore in his mirror. He was putting up pictures of people.
Starting point is 01:08:45 She's like, okay, who do you want? He's like Michael Jordan, Tiger, like Ronaldo, and he's like A-Rod. And she's like, Aaron Rodgers? He's like, yeah, of course. And it's just, and that's how- Ponytail? Or how would you- I don't know what the final product turned out to be, but Aaron was on that list. And I'm like, yeah, that's how most athletes, what they would say.
Starting point is 01:09:04 And it's because I think we all, and as a far a far i was a friend i appreciate that he's his own person like he's just breaks them all don't give i love it yeah i love anybody that does that and continues to show up like all right fuck off the reason other people you know talk differently is because like some of these marks have websites and they get a lot of clicks when they write about stuff you know about aaron how cool do you feel saying that i'm pretty good i thought about it for like is because some of these Marks have websites and they get a lot of clicks when they write about stuff about Aaron. How cool do you feel saying that? I'm pretty good. I thought about it for like 25 minutes before we got here.
Starting point is 01:09:31 You nailed it. Didn't rush the delivery. No. Is a Mark an idiot? It's like, A.J. Hawk, Mark. For what, though? I've got to be forced. I'm a Mark for a certain thing.
Starting point is 01:09:41 You can't just be a complete. I guess you can be a complete Mark. Yeah, you can be a complete. You can be a complete mark. You can be a mark for bad driving. You're a mark. Okay, thank you. No. I'm not giving you the power to put a negative connotation on it. We're back in four minutes.
Starting point is 01:09:57 We'll be back in four minutes. We got Aaron Rogers on the other side after all that washing of the balls. Five, six minute conversation as he's on his road to Tahoe. Can't wait to chat with him and ask him his thoughts on how we do our thing. See you then, bye. Welcome back to the, that's probably smart. Guy's a big brain.
Starting point is 01:10:18 Yeah, it is interesting though. Yeah. Because the universal. Yeah, but then you're playing. Anyways, we had a conversation off air that none of you that are listening heard. I'm sorry. Even the people that are in the back room could not have heard. So that was literally a combo that only five of us could have heard that continued on to the show.
Starting point is 01:10:37 And that's why this show stinks. So we do apologize for that. I didn't even get it, really. We're heading out to Tahoe. Well, because if you do it in meters it's already going to account for the 10 difference that or the 10 yard 15 yard difference that's all he'll have you're right it doesn't make sense to the air so you're just playing it as the meters just play it as if you're not at altitude ground zero because the yards you know what i mean yeah i mean they shot
Starting point is 01:11:01 if it's 150 yards and they're like oh the, the ball goes far, they'd be like, okay, if I would hit a pitching wedge, I will hit a 54 now. Yes. Your club. Instead of having to change and go to meters and use a different metric. Yeah, but he's just playing a different game than you are. He's playing chess. Yeah, absolutely. We know that.
Starting point is 01:11:18 Speaking of playing chess and playing a game, there's a 100K free-to-play about us taking down Tahoe this weekend. That's right, the 100k Tahoe takedown is now live on FanDuel, both the fantasy area and the sportsbook area in the free-to-play tab. So it's not just states that have legal sports gambling. This is open for like 48 out of the 50 states, I believe. Let's go. $100,000 in total prizes are up for grabs, mostly cash. It's available in any state, even where sports betting isn't legal.
Starting point is 01:11:50 Get in on the action for the $100,000 in prizes and follow along as we take down Tahoe. Oh, yeah. Here's some questions that are included. You'll fill out a questionnaire, basically 13 of them, and then whoever has the most points after the questionnaire is figured out, done with after the weekend, you will then fall into a place to win prizes. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:12:11 Will me or AJ finish higher on the leaderboard? Hi, is that a question you think? What if we tie, for real? That's an option. Okay. AJ will win. Pat will win. They will tie.
Starting point is 01:12:23 Will Aaron Rodgers finish in the top 20 on the leaderboard? Yes, no, he will finish at 20, so it's always an option. Will I finish in the top 50? Or will I end up at finish? And there's another 10 questions that I think everybody should enjoy. It's stable for scoring, it's not actual scoring. So the way this will go is an albatross sure is 10 points damn that's all one on a par four yes yeah i thought it was the whole one at all
Starting point is 01:12:53 hole one on a par three eight points albatross hole in one on a par four 10 points or two on a par five which you can do there's a couple there's definitely one you can drive the ball over the green on a par four you could get get a one on a par four. Okay. Eagle, six points. Birdie, three points. Yes. Par one point.
Starting point is 01:13:09 Bogey, no blood. Zero points. Double bogey or worse, you lose two points. So then it's a scoring system. AJ finished last year's tournament with a negative 10. Okay. The winner had a plus 89 or something like that. No, no. Yeah. maybe 70 or 69 69 for that
Starting point is 01:13:28 so my 10 it can look different to your scores minus 10 looks different with some people i shot like first day bad i think i was 90 then i went like 88 87 or something that was my score but your full scores don't matter no matter i'm trying to say what that's what that equated to that minus 10 that's what i shot though so you So you want bogey golf is good here. If you play old man golf and you hit the ball, you can only hit the ball 230 yards. There's some people out there that their swing looks terrible. You would say they're a terrible golfer,
Starting point is 01:13:58 and they'll score in the positive points because they don't hit the ball far enough to get in trouble ever. And they just bogey, bogey, bogey every once in a while and throw a par in there. There's a question in there that is going to involve somebody typing in an answer, I believe, because that's going to be the tiebreaker if people get a lot of the questions right in that one. It'll be how much of a difference is there between my score and your score? Ooh.
Starting point is 01:14:18 So you can guess that in a type in. There's 13 questions. That's one of them. Will myself, A.J., Aaron, Steph Curry, Justin Timberlake, Charles Barkley, that in a type in uh there's 13 questions that's one of them uh will myself aj aaron steph curry justin timberlake charles barkley or somebody else record an eagle or better is one of the questions easy questions but it'll be fun there's 100k to give away uh and we hope everybody gets involved we will be updating as the weekend goes along through our socials with old Nicky tweets, Evan Fox, and obviously Connor will be on the bag.
Starting point is 01:14:47 Fandle app, correct? What's that, pal? Fandle app as opposed to the sportsbook app. Both. Both. I believe both are actually in there. Now, we have some breaking news. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:14:58 We did not expect this to happen, but just like Josina Anderson reported yesterday, look for the Baker timeline to happen today. Now, we didn't know if it was going to be the Seattle Seahawks. Ian Rappaport yesterday said he had not heard anything really materializing with the Seattle Seahawks. Now, here we are, Wednesday, July 6th, 2022. Baker Mayfield is going to the Carolina Panthers. The Carolina Panthers. Number one overall pick, Baker Mayfield,
Starting point is 01:15:29 has been acquired by the Panthers for a 2024 conditional fifth-round draft pick. Sources tell Ian Rappaport and Tom Palacero. Deal is obviously pending and physical. All parties split the financials to make this happen. So that's 9.75. No. Yeah. 9.25. Yeah, 18 and a half.
Starting point is 01:15:43 9.25 million from each team. The Browns have been steadfast that they would pay $10 million basically through it. The Carolina Panthers wanted to go through their OTAs and their mini camp, and allegedly they'd been chatting a little bit, but they wanted to see what they had with Sam Darnold still being down on their roster, being owed $19 million this year because they picked up his fifth-year option before last season. Baker Mayfield is a Carolina Panther. Congrats to Baker, who gets out of Cleveland.
Starting point is 01:16:11 Congrats to Cleveland, who won it out of the Baker Mayfield business. And congrats to the Carolina Panthers, who for another season are taking a shot on who is going to be our franchise quarterback, and we will fucking run the carousel until we find our guy. Maybe it's Baker. Shout out to the Queen City. They go uptown there, not downtown in Charlotte.
Starting point is 01:16:35 How do you feel about this move, A.J. Hawk? I mean, what other options did Carolina have? Jimmy G maybe if he's healthy. So, yeah, it completely makes sense. What does conditional mean? A conditional fifth round. What's that mean? It's how much he plays, how much they win.
Starting point is 01:16:46 It could move up. It could move down. This is what happened with Carson Wentz. If he played 85% of the snaps, that became a first-round pick as opposed to a third-round pick. And, of course, with two springs, he missed no games because Carson Wentz is so fucking tough. All right? So it's probably something along the lines of that particular thing, particular thing playing time 9.25 million for your starting quarterback if you're the carolina panthers you got to be pretty pumped up about this especially if you don't believe in the quarterbacks that you have on your roster right now yeah that throws a huge wrench into the jimmy
Starting point is 01:17:17 g train because obviously he can't go to seattle cleveland i'm telling you signing for a year michael and barty i agree with him it makes sense, him going to Cleveland for one year. Cleveland is set up everywhere but the quarterback position. They have so much talent there right now, man. I think it would be great. I love that the Browns would be like, yes, give us Jimmy G. I don't know if they would. I'm just, you know, spitballing.
Starting point is 01:17:37 Yeah, now the Bucs, I think, make more sense for Jimmy G. Back into Tom Brady's camp. Why does he want to sit, though? Jimmy doesn't want to sit. I think Jimmy wants to play Yeah but would you rather play I mean he's not going to Seattle You can just rule that out So where else
Starting point is 01:17:50 What other teams Maybe Cleveland Cleveland makes a lot of sense For Jimmy G And I think there's some Italians up there in Cleveland Yeah there is But Joel Petonio
Starting point is 01:17:57 Is Baker better than Sam Dorn? Well that's Wait is Baker the guaranteed starter? Or are they going to say This is a competition? 9.25 million They're paying Sam 19
Starting point is 01:18:04 That's what I'm saying So are you going to say Hey we're going to This is going to be a say this is a competition? $9.25 million. They're paying Sam $19. That's what I'm saying. So are you going to say, hey, this is going to be a little bit of a competition? What does Rule do? We know that Rule might not operate this way, but as an NFL owner since Tepper has become the owner, Rule is, hey, anybody can fucking get it. I don't care.
Starting point is 01:18:19 I'll pay you $10 million to come on in. We got Sam Darnold coming back. We will sit his fucking ass even though we picked up his entire thing. There's now breaking news. Baker Mayfield is taking a pay cut. Baker Mayfield is taking a $3.5 million pay cut to make the trade to Carolina possible. The Browns will pay $10.5 million per Garofalo, while Carolina takes $5 million. Baker gets his wish to find a new team and took a pay cut to make that happen. Jocena alluded to that. Jocena said, will Baker take less money if he wants to go somewhere else and be a guy? Because that might be what it takes.
Starting point is 01:18:49 He goes from $18.5 million guaranteed next year down to $15 million guaranteed next year. With the Browns taking $10.5 million. And the Panthers getting a $5 million Baker Mayfield. What a move by the Carolina Panthers. What a value deal. If Baker's your starting quarterback. In a fifth round. And he's serviceableable and you're only paying him $5 million, it's like you have a guy on his rookie contract,
Starting point is 01:19:10 but actually a cheaper, like a late-round rookie contract guy almost. How about a chip on his shoulder? Oh, exactly. Can you imagine? Who's that? Panthers-Browns week one. Where is it? Good question.
Starting point is 01:19:21 Let's ride. If it's listed as Panthers-Browns, it sounds like that's in Cleveland. In Cleveland? You can just use the verse. No, it's in Carolina. So it's Brown question. Let's ride. If it's listed as Panthers-Bronze, it sounds like that's in Cleveland. In Cleveland? You can just use the verse. No, it's in Carolina. So it's Browns-Panthers. Oh, Carolina's going to give him a rousing ovation. He's going to run out with it.
Starting point is 01:19:33 Can you imagine? Baker may punch everybody in the face after he throws his first touchdown. It'll be fun to watch, man. I'm excited for him. How about him going down that sideline? We've seen him walk down the sideline before and nobody say anything to him. He'll run down that sideline just like Cam Newton used to in Carolina with the celebration. And maybe it's just
Starting point is 01:19:48 left hook to Stefanski, Andrew Barry, how you doing? Keep it moving. Whoever else is going to be there that he didn't like from the past, boom, boom, boom. Suck it, suck it, suck it. We're keeping it moving. Happy for Baker. Happy for the Browns. Happy for the Carolina Panthers. Now you have to start thinking about Jimmy G.
Starting point is 01:20:03 Who's going to be the quarterback for the Browns, and what other moves does this mean are going to take place in the near future. But if they – a lot of people are going to assume he's the starter week one. Do they move Darnold now, I assume, or try to? Because they drafted Corral and they got P.J. Walker. I guess what, Seattle come after Sam? How does that work? Sam Darnold now in a new home, going to Seattle.
Starting point is 01:20:21 Who knows? We will keep our eye on it. Speaking of keeping our eye on something, we've had a goat watch all afternoon. That's right. You know, we don't really do phone calls on this show, but we've had our eyes on the phone line that we had put in the studio just in case
Starting point is 01:20:37 a daylight today came. That's right. Joining us now from the card is Road to Tahoe, the back-to-back MVP of the NFL. Ladies and gentlemen, host of Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, Aaron Rodgers. Hey! What's up, dude? Hey. I can't believe I get to see you guys pretty soon.
Starting point is 01:21:01 I know. We're all excited, man. We could see you right now, but since you're driving, had to do the old school phone call. We miss you over here, pal. I want to let you know that. How's the off season been? It's been fantastic. It's been incredible. I just got back from across the pond. Had a nice time over there.
Starting point is 01:21:19 Where'd you go? I got to see my friends at Zenith in Switzerland. Switzerland over there. A little watch trip for Aaron Rodgers? Yeah, didn't you see the Instagram video? Oh, yes, I do remember that. Your hair looks fantastic, by the way.
Starting point is 01:21:39 You were walking around saying hello. It was a good caption. Is it Zenith or Zenith? I always thought Zenith, and then I saw that, and you said Zenith. It's thought Zenith and then I saw that and you said Zenith. It's definitely Zenith. Why would you be a culture fucking human? He didn't know that before they paid him $20 million to go do the commercial. Did you know that it was Zenith?
Starting point is 01:21:55 I did, yes. Known from the beginning. What'd you do in Switzerland other than that? Did you stay over there? Did you do a little European tour? Yeah, they had a lot of events for me over there. And then I bounced around a couple other places. I'm a history buff, you guys know that.
Starting point is 01:22:12 So I got to see some different parts. You stopped by Ukraine? No, I did not. But I was actually in a country that borders Ukraine. Oh. Yeah. A little place called Hungary. Oh.
Starting point is 01:22:34 The Hungarians are good people, I've heard. They are. They are fantastic. They have some nice food over there, too. So you've always loved to travel. I think last year or before covid we heard you're on the first thing out of a country out the middle of nowhere is that your biggest thing is that uh what you like to spend the majority of your time on kind of seeing the world and shit
Starting point is 01:22:52 yeah i mean while i'm while i'm playing i got a pretty good uh off-season spot that feels like a vacation but i do enjoy traveling and anytime you get a chance to kind of see the world it changes your perspective i think a lot of times in this media uh you know driven uh opinion circle we kind of until we get out there and see different places it can be domestically or internationally uh you realize that there's actually a lot of great people out there a lot of people that uh don't hate each other and that do get along and that are friendly and loving and conscious, and that's what I really enjoy about the chance to travel,
Starting point is 01:23:35 and, you know, domestically or internationally, but internationally you get to kind of see some more history. The United States has been around as a country since, well, you can say the Declaration of Independence, which was, you know, almost 250 years ago now. But some of these other countries, you know, have been around for thousands and thousands of years with dynasties and generations of culture and leadership. And there's a lot of great architecture and stories to be told. And I love getting over there and seeing some of those places. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:06 Hey, how's your arm feel? We didn't see you post any videos of you throwing overseas. Do you take a ball? Have you been throwing at all? What was it like at minicamp? You know, how's your body physically? Yeah, thank you for asking, AJ. You obviously didn't watch my Zenith video because in the video,
Starting point is 01:24:21 I am on top of, you know, kind of a mountain area. Mountainous area. And I'm playing catch with Ed Berry. Fucking money, Ed, dude! Easy, Ed. It was stinging my fingers. Yeah. And the pressure was on him, though, because
Starting point is 01:24:39 if he had thrown a bad one, it would have gone over the cliff. Would have been like the Dal dalai lama hitting the drive into a thousand foot crevasse of course that's exactly what i was thinking too uh but yeah no i definitely got some throws in with ed i got some throws in in the inside that kind of made everybody a little bit nervous inside dennis because there was a tiny little hallway and you can't really see it on the video, but Julian, the CEO, was on one side, and there was this, like, plexiglass on both sides that was, you know, the throw was a little bit tight,
Starting point is 01:25:12 and there were a lot of people looking at me like, are you going to be able to do this? Here we go. He's fucking Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, come on. You make watches for a living, and they're awesome. I throw footballs for a living. Yeah. So I'll be fine.
Starting point is 01:25:26 How cool did you feel right there? Then whenever you made the pass and it didn't break anything, did you feel, like, incredible? You had to feel so cool, dude, so cool. Yeah, Pat, really, really cool. Show off in front of your Zenith friends. I mean, that is a beautiful thing. Let's talk about OTAs.
Starting point is 01:25:42 You obviously got to see the building, chit-chat with some people, and I know we're looking ahead to Tahoe here. But what did you think of the young wide receiver? What did you think of Watson? What did you think of Sammy? What do you think about going into the season? Any thoughts on what you're going to have to focus on or anything like that? Yeah, deep breaths.
Starting point is 01:26:00 It's important for everybody involved. Deep, deep breaths. There's a lot of people in football, it can't just be our team, that love to crown or obliterate players without pads on. This guy is going to be the greatest thing ever in shorts and a helmet. This guy sucks, can't play at all, he's terrible, won't make the team. Every year there's opinions that start coming out about players in helmets and shorts, and I would just say, let's just everybody take a nice,
Starting point is 01:26:34 deep, long breath and trust the training camp time that we have, trust the coaching staff, trust the relationships that will be formed and continue to be formed, trust the guys in the room like Alan Lazard and Randall Cobb and Sammy Watkins to help these young guys out. Physically, though, they definitely looked apart. They definitely looked apart. All three of them. All three of the guys we drafted all have physical gifts. Obviously, the top two picks are bigger. Dobbs and Watson but uh
Starting point is 01:27:08 but the seventh round pick got a lot of stuff to them um so I think it's going to be great there's no better teacher for them on what NFL ball is going to be like than going against our three corners our top three corners Jair, Eric St, and obviously Rasul. So those guys have got a real quick initiation to the NFL. And I was joking with a couple of my buddies on the squad and in the personnel department and training room, and I said, could be a long training camp for the offense. I like the way our defense is looking and playing. And just on paper, it looks like they're going to be pretty formidable. training camp for the offense. I like the way our defense is looking and playing.
Starting point is 01:27:48 And just on paper, it looks like they're going to be pretty formidable. So it could be some growing pains for the offense, which would be great for us. It would be nice to take our lumps from time to time. I think it will help us get better and face a really good defense like that. Hey, how's your golf game? I know FanDuel has different props out there that people can participate in. Are you going to get in top 20th out there? I talked to you the other day, and I know you said you weren't real happy with where your swing was at the moment.
Starting point is 01:28:14 Last time you've seen him play. Yeah, I know you won the match, though. Yeah, you're coming off a big victory on national television for everybody. A clutch putt you hit. How do you feel going in? Are you going to win this thing? I don't think that's a safe bet.? I don't think that's a safe bet. I really don't think that's a safe bet to make.
Starting point is 01:28:31 However, if there's some head-to-head stuff, I usually feel pretty good about my head-to-head matchups. Top 20 is kind of a benchmark for me, and I feel like it's attainable. The field is always – it seems like it's getting a little bit better but if I go out and put the ball in the fairway then I think I should definitely be top 20 because I know the greens and I'm a good putter and I played out here this would be my 18th year which is very thankful for that Every year I've been in the league, I've played in his event. It's like delivery. Very thankful for that.
Starting point is 01:29:09 Listen. Just got to keep it in the fair. I have no idea what you guys are talking about. Probably AJ telling him to talk some shit. No, I'm not. Yeah, I'm sure he's got some Chuck Berry stories or something. No, actually, he said that your delivery over the phone, you sound like Trump is what he said, actually, on the phone.
Starting point is 01:29:25 This is interesting. We should do more of this. It's a little bit more, you know, it feels a little old school, a little more intimate. We have to listen to every single word. You know, normally I'm a big watcher and a moth, what's coming out and how you hear. But listening to every single word, it sounds like you're saying some good shit, by the way. Aren't you in a good spot right now? Yeah, I'm in a great spot.
Starting point is 01:29:45 Are you admitting you're kind of a mouth breather or just a mouth reader? Well, both, actually, because I busted my nose as a child. I rode my bicycle into the side of a truck. So both those things, and they are my people. It hasn't messed with your looks, though, man. You're still a good-looking guy. Look at that, dude. Aaron fucking Rogers, seeing some handsome.
Starting point is 01:30:02 Huge. This is big. What were you going to say, though, Tim? I like her I picture him naked what who you
Starting point is 01:30:11 yeah you oh thanks see alright well enjoy the ride pal we appreciate you we
Starting point is 01:30:19 pumped it to the end of this way the conversation at least a kimono safe we got to drive a long way to get to the place we're headed to tonight I did not know that was on the back end of this way, the conversation. At least a kimono. We've got to drive a long way to get to the place we're headed to tonight. I did not know that was on the back end of this flight. Yeah, bring your A-game comedy.
Starting point is 01:30:33 They might ask you to do some stand-up, you know. I don't know. Hey, you put a mic in my hand, but the people that are going to be in that room, I think I'll be able to figure it out, hopefully. But I'm very excited. I'm thankful. I believe you were probably a massive part of me getting invited to this thing, so
Starting point is 01:30:45 thank you. And we'll see you in a few hours, pal. Hey, safe travels to you and the boys. And get ready. We're going to have some fun. Yeah. You're the best. Back-to-back MVP, Aaron Rodgers. Thank you, buddy. Diggs isn't coming. Don't have to worry.
Starting point is 01:31:02 Yeah, that was... That was a Bill A.J. Hawk situation with Diggs and Aaron there. You guys weren't yeah that was wait I was the only one what happened there that was interesting that was a Phil A.J. Hawk situation with Diggs and Aaron there you guys weren't doing that well I mean we kind of buried you too
Starting point is 01:31:10 with how cold we took your statement but I think people were all uncomfortable with what you said there to Aaron directly to Aaron off air saying it maybe
Starting point is 01:31:17 but two of them wait were you trying to do like the thing where if you're giving a speech you should picture the people naked so you're not nervous no no that's just how I picture
Starting point is 01:31:24 like cause Aaron's he's just lounging he's like a Buddhist guy just dong out balls on his couch they don't wear clothes a lot If you're giving a speech, you should picture the people naked so you're not nervous? No, no. That's how I picture it. Because Aaron's like... He's just lounging. He's like a Buddhist guy. Just dong out. They don't wear clothes a lot. Driving naked? That's good. We already took a break.
Starting point is 01:31:33 Let's go to the phones. Yeah, let's go to the phones. That was a good convo, though. I think you said a lot of things about the Packers. The Packers fans should be excited about it. He likes the receiving room. All the receivers, it sounds like. Who's the seventh rounder?
Starting point is 01:31:43 I'm excited to hear that. I have no idea. The seventh rounder, whoever it was, was just listening to that interview going, fucking let's go. Let's room. All the receivers, it sounds like. Who's the seventh rounder? I'm excited to hear that. I have no idea. The seventh rounder, whoever it was, was just listening to that interview going, fucking let's go. Let's go. Let's go, dude. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:31:49 That's a life changer. That is an absolute life changer. Now, did he say that so that maybe, you know, getting to Coons and the boys also? Like, hey, I like this guy. Yeah. Keep him around. Yeah, you know, because there has been some things.
Starting point is 01:32:02 Maybe he was testing to see if it happens again. Yeah, let's see. Is this the same old, same old situation or not? Let's go to the phones. Let's go to Yeah, you know there has been some thing. Maybe he was testing to see if it happens again Yeah, let's see. Is this the same old same old situation or not? Let's go to the phones Let's go to Adam in Ohio Adam. How's it going pal? All right, fuck off Adam All right, let's go to Javier in Houston. What's going on Javier Adam? Javier what's going on? It's a winner situation. Matt, AJ, boys. Javier, what's going on? It's a winner right here. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:27 What's going on? Javier. Javier. I mean, it's amazing to be on the phone line today because it's a great day because AJ Hawk is in studio. That's right. That's why you call. That's why you call.
Starting point is 01:32:39 Hell yeah, Javier. That's why you call on the show. That's why he's the 5-Hour Energy phone line. Yeah, keep calling. Let's go, Javier. Yeah. Hey, I'm a 5-Hour Energy. Don't call. I mean, since we started off the show with an excellent quote from the aliens that are coming by, just want to let y'all know, since we are on the memes, on the TikToks, since we are getting the news from there, that tomorrow, July 7th, according to a time traveler TikToker,
Starting point is 01:33:14 says that tomorrow we're supposed to have first contact with aliens in Alaska. Okay, Javier, that's awesome. Does that time traveling TikTok pick games, or are they just doing this for views? Hey, I don't know about the source. I just know that's where the news comes from. All right, Javier, listen, that's great to hear that a time-traveling TikToker, okay, is utilizing its time-traveling abilities to make a TikTok.
Starting point is 01:33:39 This is just like Matt Groening making the Simpsons, as opposed to taking advantage of it and betting on things that you know. You kind of play the slow game, the long game. And the TikTok game is obviously going to be around for a long time. Tomorrow, first time we're chatting with aliens out there in Alaska. We're going to be pretty close to Tahoe. Maybe we hop on a bird, go say what's up as well. Yeah, maybe they come on down to Tahoe too.
Starting point is 01:33:58 And be like, oh, there's a nice little place down there. The lake is very deep in certain parts. Yeah, lakes. They may be down there. Where else would they rather be? Exactly. It's beautiful. Ah may be down there. Where else would they rather be? Exactly. It's beautiful. Ah, gorgeous.
Starting point is 01:34:07 Yeah. Come on. Snow-capped mountains in the distance. We'll see snow-capped mountains, buddy. Oh, yeah. That lake's going to be cold as fuck. It's cold, yeah. It's good for you, though.
Starting point is 01:34:16 You can see forever. In the water or in life? The water's very clear. Oh, you open up your eyes down there. You drink it. You drink it? It's fresh water. I will.
Starting point is 01:34:23 I take a bath in it. I take a bar of soap out there. I'll shower out there. Everything. Shower, piss, poop, and drink it yeah you drink it's fresh water i will absolutely i take baths and i take a bar of soap out there i'll shower out there everything shower piss poop and drink it yeah i would be pretty much any any body of water i will pee in but i'm not gonna pee in like tahoe it's too sacred pristine oh so you're showing respect to the lake i'll stand out and pee on the shore okay very nice you thank you just pee on your shorts wow like what do you mean like stand up above tahoe's down by your knees and just pee on your shorts but then if when i lower myself down to the water the urine will get in the water oh yeah i mean your dingleberry is gonna be floating around tahoe too so what the fuck you think what's the difference you're gonna dump in the lake no but
Starting point is 01:34:59 everybody's kind of farting at some point they said that's all poop particles you're drinking that water what happens if you're deep in the lake and you got to poop? What if you got a little mud butt because you're drinking a lot of mud? I've never been in that situation, stuck out of the lake. Oh, sure. You're telling me you haven't just all over the top. I would never dump in a lake or a body of water. By the way, I'm not a big dumper in public either,
Starting point is 01:35:19 but when you fart out there, little particles of poop is floating around. That's what a fart is. That's what's the difference. That's the difference. I mean, yeah. So when I'm Wim Hofing in the morning. You're just swooping poop around. You're just pushing poop all over. Well, if I fart, my body naturally wants to fart when I get into the Wim Hof ice method.
Starting point is 01:35:35 I'm going to do that. But just don't be drinking it because my farts are real. I'll keep like 30 feet from you. We're back in six. Cheers. Nailed it. Fucking nailed it. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:35:43 Fucking nailed it. What time are you getting up so I know what time so i'm depends what time the tea time is but early i would like you to wake up though kind of you want to get you up i want you to lumber down in the thing and i want you to look outside by the lake and it's me i would i would be so it'll be dark it's gonna be it's freezing in the morning like 50 degrees the good thing is though we go we do real Wim Hof. Well, we'll contrast. We'll go in the lake, and then there's a hot tub there, too.
Starting point is 01:36:09 In the hot tub, warm it up. Flushing. Yeah. I'm with that. Shower, go out there and shoot 62. Boom. Hell yeah. Sign me up.
Starting point is 01:36:16 All right, we got an hour left. This show is going to stink. Yeah. All eyes are on Tahoe. So, phone callers, you need to bring it. Yeah, come on. If any caller gets a perfect 10
Starting point is 01:36:28 judged from all the boys, you win a free shirt. Okay. Okay. This is a phone it in Wednesday. Good luck. The last hour is going to be all phone calls.
Starting point is 01:36:37 If there's more breaking news, like, you know, Jimmy G or Debo, who wouldn't sign that football. Son of a. Wow. At that camp with 7,000 kids there.
Starting point is 01:36:49 You sign one thing, you're there for the next two days signing. And I assume at some point there was a signing or a picture opportunity. But obviously, autograph hound with his kid trying to take advantage of the situation, make Debo look bad. But Debo's deal is still up. This whole thing is a bunch of bullshit. Yeah, this guy's a scumbag. I mean, middle of a camp here.
Starting point is 01:37:08 Come on, we're in the middle of something here, trying to do something. I get that you want your football signed so you can maybe sell it. And this is a dad sending his kid over, by the way, not just the kid. And everybody says, you know, I'll be nice to the kid. I think we're all genuinely nice to kids, but there's a lot of these kids that are being used as pawns by their scum that as scumbag fathers i'm not saying this situation i'm not saying that's this situation i came out that every kid at this camp got a signed photo from debo and a photo op but the dad who's videotaping his son obviously yeah you know he said on the in
Starting point is 01:37:44 debus on the fifth try, he recorded it. So the guy did it on purpose to make him look bad. Bro, autograph hounds are the biggest fucking scumbags on earth. Okay? I have zero respect for them. If you're a fan of Debo, why would you want to put that out there and make him look bad? You're not. Yeah, you're trying to get a business off.
Starting point is 01:37:56 You got a Debo autograph already. Yeah. It doesn't matter. That's why context matters. Yeah. They're rat fucks. They are. These people are. They come sprinting up to shit. You'll see a good amount of rat fucks. They are. These people are.
Starting point is 01:38:06 They come sprinting up to shit. You'll see a good amount of them this weekend. Trust me. I already got my answer for them. Fuck off. Phoenix. I used to not be like that. So happy you watched that show.
Starting point is 01:38:15 I used to. Shout out, Kendall Roy. You use it for so much. Fuck off, Logan Roy. I mean, like the, I used to feel bad for him. Yeah. And then I realized, realized oh you're selling that you're trying to sell this to my face oh he's got a binder of 85 pictures of different people
Starting point is 01:38:31 that are here I have no idea why people are fans of me in general or this show but I'm very appreciative of them I don't need them getting taken advantage of by some fucking scumbag who if I ever run into you I will sign something for you and take a picture with you but these autograph hounds are the worst people on fucking earth that's just i once i got to that point mentally by the way much better interaction especially the ones that use little kids whether it's their own kid or other people kids that they pay like five bucks to to do it that's what freaks me out when they send the kid and you see the person standing and the kid has no idea who anyone is so here's the way to debunk that hey kid kid, you got a phone?
Starting point is 01:39:05 Yeah, let's take a photo. Boom, tell your dad to go fuck off. Or you ask me, who should I sign it to? Just sign it, please. No, I'm gonna put a name on it for you. Yeah, but they have- They can erase it too. They're able to- I'm wide out. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:16 Don't buy anything I ever signed, okay? Boom. Except for WWE has these sick portraits that they have me sign. Those are nasty. Well, and you never know too, if it's something of yours, it might just say Peyton Manning on it.
Starting point is 01:39:30 Yeah. I have. All right, let's get to a break. We're back for hour three here in about three and a half minutes. Good phone calls. Phone it in. Can't wait for it.
Starting point is 01:39:38 Let's live life. Let's enjoy this. Let's have a fucking Wednesday. Cheers. Let me have my knee all night for this hey welcome back to that show hour three on this Wednesday July 6th 2022 shall begin immediately following this beat drop from Twine. Now we go. Let's ride. Saw you hit the mute.
Starting point is 01:40:09 I keep forgetting in person I forget to ride. At home it's easier to remember to ride. There's too many distractions. You know, I'm kind of ADD when it comes to that. There's a lot of stuff going on. I don't know how you sit in that. I smoke cigars. If I don't smoke cigars, I think I'd go crazy.
Starting point is 01:40:23 It gives me something to do. How come you haven't done any here? What's that all about? Yeah, that's weird. I mean, I'm kind of, usually if I smoke cigars, If I don't smoke cigars, I think I'd go crazy. It gives me something to do. How come you haven't done any here? What's that all about? Yeah, that's weird. I mean, I'm kind of... Usually, if I smoke cigars, I'm showering instantly. I don't like to smell like cigars around people in a closed situation like a plane.
Starting point is 01:40:33 I do like the fact that we get to see you in your little baseball shirt. You know what I mean? Yeah. I was almost freshly made a few days ago, yeah. Oh, yeah? Was this an A.J. Hawker Ridger? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:42 They all are. It's great to have you in the studio. The Talks at the Table is here at Nick Marlowe at Boston Corner. Titan Diggs is here after a 2-0 and one night on the diamond with Hammered Down. What are we betting on tonight? A little Wimbledon? A little tennis? What's going on?
Starting point is 01:40:54 More diamond. Wimbledon's dying down. I believe American, though, is pushing Roth with a fifth set right now. Wow. Who? Oh, what was that guy's name? Fitz? Fitz?
Starting point is 01:41:04 Something. I saw fits covering the hot dog eating contest jason yeah i think there's another fit jason fits the uh former fiddler for the uh the roof band perry yeah oh he's down with espn you know he always works with uh golic jr and now golic jr's gone fits was calling the uh hot dog eating contest. Oh, I didn't know that. I've done some serious stuff with him in the past. Yeah. I was doing a show with him once, and he was like, well, I was actually in a band. And then he told me.
Starting point is 01:41:32 I was like, yeah, of course I know who that is. He's big into sports. You want a Grammy, that guy. Don't he just decide to bail or what? Well, you want to get into sports. I think he's doing sports talk for ESPN, live his dream. Is he still fiddling? Definitely.
Starting point is 01:41:44 I think he could walk into a dueling piano situation, grab the fiddle off the side of the wall and say, somebody play Devil Went Down in Georgia, please. And then he's fucking both the devil and Johnny. You know what I mean? And I think he has the ability to still do that. He's a fucking Grammy winning fiddler. What do you think this is, dude?
Starting point is 01:42:01 You're right. I underestimated what he was able to do. Performed in Columbus Arena. In Columbus, in a horseshoe. Yeah. He sold outimated what he was performed in the you know columbus in the horseshoe yeah he sold out up there the band perry had played in the horseshoe and he led an ohio in the horseshoe you were probably there i don't think i was there for that because i would have participated Your foot stomp is really loud. Thank you. Yeah, it's a stage.
Starting point is 01:42:32 So this is your TB12 jug that you've never filled up. And that is Gary Vee jug, or what is that? This one I think was off of Amazon. I'm not sure if this is actually from Tom. That one is from Tom. This one's just off Amazon. It's supposed to keep you motivated to drink an entire gallon of water a day. 7 a.m., you should be down here.
Starting point is 01:42:54 Good morning. Take a good little gulp and start the day. Then by 9 a.m., you should be hydrating yourself. A little reminder. 11 a.m., remember your goal. This thing is an Instagram motivational account by itself. Keep chugging by 1 p.m remember your goal you know this thing is an instagram motivational account by itself keep chugging by 1 p.m don't slow down you're feeling awesome aren't you don't give up almost finished you did it go to bed now you're gonna piss all night so then you're gonna get
Starting point is 01:43:17 back into it and it's good morning hydrate yourself remember your goal and then you just put that on repeat 365 to be a healthier you you fucking asshole it sounds And then you just put that on repeat. Three, six, five. Be a healthier you, you fucking asshole. That sounds great. And then you just put plastic sheets on your bed because you just swim away by pissing your bed every night. Well, so you don't drink a gallon of water every single day? I try to drink a lot of water. I really do. But I try not to pee the bed.
Starting point is 01:43:38 I piss two, three times a night. Routine. Very annoying. I pee all day, but I can usually go to the night without peeing. I pee all the time. I think I got a problem with my bladder. Baker Mayfield's the Carolina Panther now. Let's go. Congrats to him.
Starting point is 01:43:50 Congrats to all parties involved. AJ, your thoughts on if the Carolina Panthers are now going to win the NFC South? I don't know if they're going to win the NFC South, but A, we need Christian McCaffrey to be healthy for a full season. That would be awesome. And, man, I don't know. I'm kind of excited for Baker. I really am.
Starting point is 01:44:05 And Carolina gets a starting quarterback for $5 million, a guy that is pissed off at a lot of people, and we know he plays his best when that's the case. So if he has the weapons around him and they have a good scheme, who knows what can happen. Back-to-back situations, back-to-back-to-back situations where the question has been, is it the quarterback or is it the situation the
Starting point is 01:44:25 quarterback's been in teddy bridgewater right remember way back in the day with minnesota vikings he was being talked about as being an mvp candidate has a terrible injury bounces around the league ends up with the saints he's going to be the guy for the panthers remember they pay him like 60 million or 30 million i forget i forget it was a lot of money they paid him he's going to be the starting quarterback for whatever reason they say nah this ain't it and they fire the lsu offense coordinator that they hired, Joe Brady. They get him out of there. It's like, alright, we need another one. Sam
Starting point is 01:44:49 Darnold. Is it the quarterback or is it the Jets in general? Remember what we saw happen with Tannehill once he got out from underneath the Adam Gase umbrella. Sam Darnold will be able to come down here. Is it him or is it the situation? Sam Darnold has not done what everybody expected him to do. He's gotten hurt. He's never had really a healthy Christian McCaffrey either,
Starting point is 01:45:07 which is a game changer. Will Christian McCaffrey ever be healthy? That's a great question. He has a lot of Carson Wentz in him. He's willing to die on every single play. Every play is a home run or it's no yards at all. And when you're throwing yourself into these collisions at maximum speed, exploding through contact, which I think you're taught to do.
Starting point is 01:45:27 It's awesome to do. You want to see your running back do. There's a lot of opportunity for him to potentially get hurt. If he's not playing next year, does it matter what quarterback it has? Probably not. But now we find out yet again, Baker Mayfield or the Browns, Carolina Panthers are willing to give it a go. Yeah, the fact that Baker took a $3.5 million pay cut, right?
Starting point is 01:45:44 How long has Carolina been hanging out.5 million pay cut, right? So that was part. How long has Carolina been hanging out waiting for the numbers to look right? They've had a ton of leverage. They've probably just been hanging out. Okay, you guys come back to us when you have something that will actually entertain me. So, Josina told us two weeks ago, right, that is Baker willing to take a pay cut to go be a starter somewhere else? Because it came out that the Browns are willing to pay $10 or $11 million.
Starting point is 01:46:04 Then when Rappaport and Pellicera reported they said $50-50, then it was followed up not $50-50 at all. Actually, it's $10.5 million, which is exactly where the Browns have publicly been, all the way down to $5 million is what the Panthers are paying. So I assume this just had to be Baker waiting to say that he would take
Starting point is 01:46:19 less money, or were the Browns actually fielding offers from the Seahawks and the Panthers and this is kind of the best one that they found? 100 sure but now if you look back at it 2018 number one overall pick guess who Sam Darnold or is that Baker's Baker yeah next year number three overall Sam Darnold both in the same room same quarterback room yeah 2018 has Matt Rule set anything like oh we're gonna have have an open competition? $5 million and $19 million. So are you saying Sam's the starter?
Starting point is 01:46:53 Allegedly, Baker can make that 3.5 mil up in incentives. Yeah, they should do that. Okay, so $8.5 million or $19 million? Matt Rule doesn't care. He's trying to keep his gig. Yeah, and that's not going to happen if they don't. So whoever goes in there has a very, very short leash, is what you're saying. Everybody that's ever played quarterback for the Carolina Panthers under
Starting point is 01:47:09 Tepper's leadership has a very, very, very short leash. They just drafted Corral too, right? They drafted Matt Corral down there as well. So maybe Baker's okay. Hey, Baker's still rehabbing from surgery on his non-throwing shoulder. Maybe Sam gets the gig and you, hey, let him go get in there know let us work out some of the kinks i'll come
Starting point is 01:47:27 in about week four and take the ship yeah maybe i'm sure baker's like yeah i'll back up sam darnold i don't know sam darnold by the way sam darnold's probably saying i'm not backing up baker mayfield he's making eight and a half million i'm making 19 million that is a situation they are going to have to handle i think healthy. Does he have to be 100% healthy, too? Who? Baker, because he has to pass the physical, right? You don't have to be 100% healthy to pass the physical, but he does have to be able to play. There's people who are sore going through physicals
Starting point is 01:47:54 that are stretching things. Can you physically play? You just can't. You don't want them to tell you, oh, is it hurting? No, it doesn't hurt at all. And it's the most pain you've ever been in your life when you put your shoulder behind your back. See, that's AJ lying to every medical person. That's why I got picked five times. And you're stupid if you don't. You're an absolute idiot if you don't.
Starting point is 01:48:08 And it ended up working out, by the way, because the fifth overall pick, $40-$50 million, whatever he signed for. Oh, no, that one really hurts. You should take me in the seventh round, Doc. Why would you ever self-sabotage yourself? Ever. Never. Can't do it. But with that being said, you are lying directly to me.
Starting point is 01:48:23 And if I'm an owner of a team, do I want you to be like, oh, yeah, my ankle hurts a little bit, coach. Oh, yeah, my knee hurts, too. Oh, my elbow hurts. Okay, get this guy off our list. Hurt or injured. Yeah, like, don't tell me. Yep, good to go.
Starting point is 01:48:34 I'm happy for Baker, though. It seems like a win-win. Yeah, it's awesome. And DJ Moore, I mean, they just extended him, and they got Robbie Anderson, who might retire, but he also, you know. Do you remember how good Baker was? Like, when Baker first came in for Cleveland, I remember seeing him at the Kentucky Derby.
Starting point is 01:48:46 I believe he was the guy that started the race. He was, like, the man doing everything. Every commercial. Heisman. Progressive. Heisman House. And then it's all, is it all from this injury, or what is it? I think it's all from how it ended with Cleveland.
Starting point is 01:48:56 Yeah, because there was that one year where they were, you know, a Chad Henney fourth down away from beating the Chiefs. Gosh, you're right. If people think that your people hate you, I think it changes. And it was a perfect storm for Baker. Cleveland, the history of all what they're going on with quarterbacks, and then he had those progressive commercials that ran every Monday night game. Not every Monday night, every fucking football game.
Starting point is 01:49:15 All the time. And even if you're winning and you're doing well, people get annoyed by that. If you're losing and not playing well, people get pissed. And it's coming out to your teammates who maybe don't like you as much as everything. I mean, that is, it was a lot. Baker has got to be so mad right now. Just at every, the whole situation. He was on top of the world. Yeah. The Odell
Starting point is 01:49:31 situation, like Odell leaving and having all this success and then winning a Super Bowl. And all the teammates of Baker basically being like, OBS is right. Odell Beckham Sr. put together quite a clip. I mean, we've been saying it this whole time. It's like, holy shit. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:49:47 That's why as we're covering it live, I think there's a lot of us going like, what the fuck is going on over there? And we didn't really dive into it until it came out later. Like, Baker's gone probably. This relationship is not mendable. It's like, a relationship with $19 million next year isn't mendable? What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:50:02 I heard he was immature. Well, see, that's... Yeah, I did hear that, too. That's what everybody said. I love that you said, can you give me an example of his immaturity? That's real. We haven't heard any of it.
Starting point is 01:50:11 It's all just kind of... There's a parking lot behind a Cheesecake Factory. I love Cheesecake Factory. What happened? Well, I think he ordered extra chicken. Really good chicken. Yeah, biggest menu on the planet. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:24 I'll probably... Oh, I'll check DoorDash for Tahoe, see if we can get it delivered. Well, I don't have DoorDash now, so don't worry about it. You do? Yeah. You know what changed the location? I'll get my own grilled chicken. Okay.
Starting point is 01:50:34 Can you imagine? Oh, what's this? Oh, cool. I've got Cheesecake Factory guys in San. You just keep delivering food to Sam at your house here? I'll tell you what. I have done that multiple times in other cities when I was starving and something took place. But I have grown in my technological advances.
Starting point is 01:50:49 Everybody's done that. Don't feel bad about it. Yeah. That's normal. Good. I just never do any of this stuff, you know, so I can figure it out if I had to. You just keep carrying everybody's water. That's right. Washing balls.
Starting point is 01:51:01 What's that, pal? What do you mean? Are you all right? I'm great. What's the pop for? I'm just chuckling at what you said, washing balls. What's that, pal? What do you mean? Are you all right? I'm great. What's the pop for? I'm just chuckling at what you said, washing balls. Well, that's what you've been doing all day, Aaron Rodgers. He was on a phone call.
Starting point is 01:51:11 I have. He's very, very good at football. He's very, very good at talking about the world's history, too. Did you hear him? He's a big history buff. He said, you know I love history. Almost 250 years old, but other countries are thousands and thousands. I guess you could use the Declaration of Independence, he said, as a buffer like yeah that's what everybody we just had all it is what everybody else views
Starting point is 01:51:30 but i can't wait to hear why you would not you know what a weird dude that's why it's awesome that he is because i think being weird is the best i tell my kids that all the time he should be weird i don't that should be a compliment boom yeah the ones that don't fit in are the ones that normally do it. I have a quote on my wall. You can't be weird just to try to be weird, though. You see that, too. Because then it's not genuine, actual different. You're just trying to be different.
Starting point is 01:51:55 I'm trying to be a nonconformist, but by doing that, you're actually a conformist. To what everybody else looks the exact same way you do right now. Yeah, you're a hipster. We're really breaking it down. We are, but I think that's why I like Aaron so much because he does not conform. Especially in his high-profile position. I talked about it on the show before.
Starting point is 01:52:10 Kobe, later in his career. Remember his interview? Kobe didn't care at all. Yes. He was so open and honest. I remember talking to my brother about it after we both saw an interview way back. Like, man, Kobe's awesome.
Starting point is 01:52:21 He doesn't care at all. And I've told Aaron that. He feels like he's in that phase. Hey, this do whatever. Hey, this is who I am. And I happen to throw a football better than everybody. And just because the other people that happen to throw a football are nothing like me, there's nobody like me.
Starting point is 01:52:34 And when you own that, I enjoy it. I enjoy it. I think when you own whatever you are, it's cool to see. You always should, by the way, because there's people that try to be other people, and they don't even know that the other people that you're trying to be are trying to be some other motherfucker so now you're third generation
Starting point is 01:52:46 not giving a fuck and you really gotta figure that out you know being authentic that's probably the most important thing yeah just do you dude
Starting point is 01:52:54 let's go to the phones let's go to Sean in Baltimore why be less AJ when you can be more wow on the 500 fuck
Starting point is 01:53:02 how'd you know that this thing did not work I didn't is that a thing damn so what's that the first time i watched the wire and go to the phones yeah in what two years actually i was back to back right because before yeah but the phone the whole system just crashed oh it crashed yeah that lenovo computer from walmart walmart might sell this because walmart sells everything you know why walmart because they're great. Because their family owns sports teams
Starting point is 01:53:26 in every single fucking area. All over the place. So I don't think just saying it's from Walmart is necessarily a knock. It's not a knock at all but I'm saying you can get this.
Starting point is 01:53:34 You know, Jack Johnson, Colorado Avalanche, they're from fucking Walmart too. They just won a Stanley Cup. You know what Walmart doesn't sell? That sweet custom fucking Tahoe hat
Starting point is 01:53:43 that you're going to get that AJ's wearing on his fucking lid right now. Oh, I hope. I don't know if they're going to give these again. Tahoe hat that you're going to get that AJ's wearing on his fucking lid right now. I don't know if they're going to give these again. Am I going to get him one of these NASCAR caps for this American Central Championship? You didn't have to wear this. They gave him to us a couple years ago to wear if you wanted.
Starting point is 01:53:55 Is that Mazzu? Travis Matthew. Stretchy, feels good. That's how he spells it? Travis Matthew. How do you spell that? One T. Oh, Mathew. Right? What? That's how he spells it? Yeah, yeah. Travis Mathew. How do you spell that? T-H-I-E-U. One T, I think, yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:07 One T. Okay, I'll have to check. Right, isn't it? One T-H-E-Dub? E-I-U, yeah, right? Like Tyron? Yeah, Matthew. It's Matt Hugh.
Starting point is 01:54:16 It's Walter from Grumpy Old Men. Walter Matthau. Well, but yeah, this one is not a F, though. I think it's Matt Hugh. Is he related to the honey badger? I don't think so. One T? How do you spell it? One T. How do you to the Honey Badger? I don't think so. 1T? How do you spell it?
Starting point is 01:54:26 1T. How do you spell it? M-E-T-H-E-W. M-E-T-H-E-W. Yeah, Matt Hugh, I believe. Trevor Matt Hugh. I went to buy a bunch of his shit the other day, and then I said, I ain't wearing long sleeves.
Starting point is 01:54:38 Fuck, I can't do it. Long sleeves? What do you mean? Oh, like sleeves. Are they going to let me go? Are you going to wear that, or are you going to wear a shirt and roll them? Are they going to let me go off on this?
Starting point is 01:54:46 I'm sure. You can do whatever you want. If they let me go off on this. The only rule is like pants. You wear pants. If you wear pants, you're good. I'm a little bummed. Honestly, you know what?
Starting point is 01:54:53 I was thinking about it before. I understand. If you ever wear pants to go play with your buddies, cool. You better shoot 60. But out here, if you're wearing pants, you feel professional. It just feels different. It feels right. Like, okay right like okay cool this is something this is a big deal i saw a picture of travis kelsey yesterday with pants on and a sweet polo he's wearing pants on wednesday yeah he looked really cool and they were shaking hands and i'm like in pants now it is like a thing
Starting point is 01:55:18 and i think it's stretchy too so it's fine i think i saw urlacher like he took a picture with somebody he posted and he's wearing like a good golf costume i'm like oh people are probably dressing super professional so i actually i you know the wife one picked up some golf bolas today because i actually don't have any other than we'll get a bag of some stuff too of american century and nbc stuff so if you need a shirt oh you'll want to wear that for sure yeah that's probably that seems like your thing yeah absolutely invite me but if romo can stick his dick in the dirt, I'd imagine that they'll let you win.
Starting point is 01:55:46 That wasn't at the American Central Championship where he was doing cat cam. That was like a US Open qualifier or something. He will do it there,
Starting point is 01:55:50 but his back maybe. He's going to play or not? Yeah, he might have. Do people know? Tony Romo's playing. What are we talking about? Tony Romo's favorite. He's like favorite to win,
Starting point is 01:55:56 isn't he? He withdraws all the time. He had a WD last year. Yeah, because... No, I don't think he did. I don't think... I think he's only done that once. Why?
Starting point is 01:56:03 Because he was too blacked out? No, I think he had a wrist injury. Yeah, too many crowns. Massive chance. No, it's a think he did. I don't think he did. I think he's only done that once. Why, because he was too blacked out? No, I think he had a wrist injury. Yeah, too many Crohn's. Massive chance. No, it's a wrist injury, guys. From shotgun and beers? No, it's a wrist injury from golf and probably years of football. Probably, and basketball.
Starting point is 01:56:16 He's a fucking great athlete. True. He actually is. Tony's a pickup basketball master. He dominates people. He played with the fucking NBA preseason game. Oh, you're right. I remember the layup line.
Starting point is 01:56:24 The Mavericks, yeah. Yeah. He looks sweet. He has a good crossover, game. Oh, you're right. I remember the layup line. The Mavericks, yeah. He looks sweet. He has a good crossover, too. Oh, yeah. Great athlete. Like when Let's Ride plays for the Rockies now. Does he? Well, he played for the Yankees before.
Starting point is 01:56:33 Let's go to the phones. Now he's with Peyton at the Rockies. Let's go to Sean in Baltimore. Why be less? There it is. He's in the middle of doing cat here. So perfect. What's this guy thinking?
Starting point is 01:56:42 You guys hoping he makes a putt? Hopefully he's... Hey, can we keep it down in the background? No more cat and camel in my back swing? Like, what are you supposed... That's awesome. What about the people looking on, too, from the middle of the fairway?
Starting point is 01:56:53 Is that a promo? What if we had your little laser finder here in the fairway? You're 300 yards out. You're like, oh, I think the guy's dead in the back. How far am I away from the guy on all fours? 170. How about from the pin? 165. All right. Let's try to hit the guy on all fours? 170. How about from the pin?
Starting point is 01:57:05 165. All right. Let's try to hit the guy on all fours. I would aim for that rib cage for sure. Tony Rama. I can't blame him because that stretch does feel so good. I might be doing that out there this week. Looks like he's in a Britney Spears music video.
Starting point is 01:57:20 Oh, geez. A little whip in the head. Tactic. Somebody wanted to kill him, though, by posting this video. And I want to let you know, my respect for him grew. Tell your remember, don't give a fuck. He'll do a cat-camel right there on a green in an ice course. I'm going to do it Friday.
Starting point is 01:57:33 Hopefully, we're playing together Friday. You have an eagle putt. I'm just cat and camel in three inches from the hole. Can you move? Sorry, I got a little tight, Pat. Yeah, I understand. I understand. I respect you.
Starting point is 01:57:43 Let's go to the fence. Let's go to Sean in Baltimore. Why be less? No. Well, last time you said it. So, I'm on, Sean. He's not on yet. Hello, Sean.
Starting point is 01:57:54 What's going on? Be more. Hey, Pat. Hey, J-Boys. How we doing today? Keep it moving. You got Jimmy's down there famous? Fuck yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:01 Jimmy's the shit, man. Who doesn't? Oh, so good. I think only terrorists don't go, but I didn't like what they were doing with the... What parade did they have? With the cicadas. Cicadas.
Starting point is 01:58:12 COVID-covered cicadas. Yeah, Jimmy's Famous really made a heel turn when they decided to celebrate those fucking cicadas that were keeping me up all night for like three months. Was that two, three months? Oh, yeah. All summer. That was unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:58:23 Well, we've made up because the taste of their food is so good yeah the upgrades too oh that whole place oh yeah the dance the bar yeah oh and the crab cakes are so good new floors oh i'd recommend you get the assholes but unbelievable yeah anyways what do you want to talk about sean hey happy feel good wednesday uh big shoutout to Ty real quick. Really fucking cool. Just wondering, though, if AJ's a little nervous over there. Once you guys get out to Tahoe, once you get warmed up,
Starting point is 01:58:53 if you're going to sneak on to the senior tour a little sooner than later. You know, might have to pay up that money. Add some additions to your house. It's looking nice there. Thank you, Sean. So what if I make a live golf event top 50? Well, there's only 48 in the field for now. Are you boys with Greg Norman?
Starting point is 01:59:11 Greg Norman doesn't know me, but once he sees this swing out there, there's a chance. But I'm just saying the bet is for the Champions Tour, but now we're kind of isolating just the PGA there, and there's multiple leagues out there now. I mean, I've got to rethink the live bet. But if you go into a live event... And I don't come in last.
Starting point is 01:59:28 Oh, you don't? Yeah. That plays too. If you go to a live event, you're not last. Alright, that's fair. Alright, so that is added into the top 50. But are you going to accept the money? That's salty money? Well, I'm not getting gas anymore, so... You know what I mean? I have an electric vehicle.
Starting point is 01:59:43 You have like 29 vehicles. I'm guessing one of them takes gas. Two of them don't, though. And those are the ones that I'm currently driving around. There is more news coming out of the Carolina Panthers. As you can recall, McAdoo was the offense coordinator that was hired by the Panthers to turn that whole ship around on the offensive side of the ball. NFL film study, Ian, tweets,
Starting point is 02:00:04 It's hilarious that his new offense quarterback, Ben McAdoo, had to say this about Mayfield when he was a prospect. McAdoo rated Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Sam Darnold, Josh Rosen, and Mason Rudolph ahead of Mayfield when he was head coach of the Giants, I assume, at the time,
Starting point is 02:00:19 whenever Baker Mayfield was coming out. But, you know, bygones can be bygones. How do we know where he rated these guys? The guy's a checkmark. But do head coaches do that? Put out their rankings? Well, did Mac do that on TV? Was Ben on TV or not?
Starting point is 02:00:31 A little patience. I thought he did. A little patience. Is there more to the tweet? Here we go. Okay. I would like to know the answer as well. Let's scroll down.
Starting point is 02:00:37 NFL film study would never fucking lie to us. I didn't think he was a great athlete, Mac Deuce said. This guy is kind of like a pocket quarterback that is short with small hands. That's what I worry about, McAdoo said in an interview about Baker Mayfield, who inevitably go on to go number one overall. So that's what McAdoo's initial thoughts were of Mayfield coming out of college. Now he's going to see him in the NFL. Hand size don't matter.
Starting point is 02:00:58 Hand size don't – size is always going to matter. Okay, that's quarterback position. You can either figure it out like your fucking Drew Brees and other shorter quarterbacks that have had success looking at the bottom of your helmet through the holes and pockets and understand everything, or you don't. Your ball gets swatted every single time you throw the ball, like what kind of happened to Baker at the end of his career,
Starting point is 02:01:16 not necessarily at the beginning of his career when he was with the Cleveland Browns. Bygones can be bygones. People can change and evolve. So can opinions and thoughts, just like McAdoo has. I mean, there's a lot of guys trying to turn their career around. Ben McAdoo is doing the same thing as the OC for Carolina. We know that may be his last chance to become.
Starting point is 02:01:32 If he does a good job as offensive coordinator, he may get a head coaching opportunity eventually in the future again. Can we go back and see if Mayfield said, yeah, McAdoo fucking stinks as a head coach? Yeah, I know. Can we go get some of those? I feel like that's kind of also whatever that tweet is, it makes it almost try to get people to feel like ben just said this hey we just brought baker in he just said this about him yeah yeah it's a long time he did have some positive things
Starting point is 02:01:52 to say about him too he said he's got an edge to him i like that he's gonna lead they're gonna follow him i did see a lot of pro pro style football in his college tape and you're short you have to make up for it oh there's some nfl plays in the tape that's all that matters whenever you're evaluating. But what do the analytics say? That'll be what we judge it off of. What are you going to say, Tyron? It looks like you're putting together the Zach Alphanakis fucking gift. I was trying to think if Ben's initial breakdown was wrong,
Starting point is 02:02:16 because I think all those quarterbacks besides Mason might actually be better. Rosen? Yeah, still. The Rosen one, definitely. Rosen, stonk. Listen, no offense, Rosen. I don't know if you watch this. I think there's a chance he watches. For whatever reason, he was not Rosen one, definitely. Rosen, stonk. Listen, no offense, Rosen. I don't know if you watch this. I think there's a chance he watches.
Starting point is 02:02:27 For whatever reason, he was not a great NFL quarterback. Was it him? Was it situations? Who knows? It never worked with Josh Rosen. I mean, they drafted him in the top ten, and then the next year they took Kyler number one overall. Yeah, but then everybody on TV was mind-blown about it,
Starting point is 02:02:41 and then he got traded to the Dolphins. Didn't play at all, right? Nope. That one was a bit surprising for me. The whole Rosen. I thought Rosen would be better. Me too. By the way, maybe it was a situation.
Starting point is 02:02:49 Who knows? Yeah, maybe it was a situation that he was dropped into that didn't work out. But he stunk, technically, as an NFL quarterback. Baker Mayfield wins a playoff game. He's got four of the Browns. He revitalized the whole city. He brought him back. City of Cleveland wasn't able to drink beers.
Starting point is 02:03:04 Yeah. They had an 0-16 parade the year before he got there. Baker, alongside others, lead that team to win a playoff game against the Pittsburgh Steelers in Pittsburgh, a city that they fucking hate and a division rival. Now they're moving on. What will the football gods do to this? I think they're kind of doing it right now.
Starting point is 02:03:21 Does it say anything that the Browns just let him go now and the deliberations ended last week that they might have a better idea of how long Deshaun Watson might be out? So the more and more we talked about it and the more and more I thought about it, I changed my idea like 14, 15 times. So I do apologize for those that have followed along every single day and had to watch this. But as more information was revealed,
Starting point is 02:03:42 I think I had to change the way I thought about it. I think the Browns and Baker were never going to make up. Even though I am a big proponent of anybody can get past their bullshit. Anybody can get past their bullshit, especially whenever there's 19, 20 million on the line. People can get past bullshit. You can have a conversation with somebody and be like, I fucked up. You fucked up. We fucked up.
Starting point is 02:04:03 Let's move on. Especially in sports, because that happens all the time. Every single play, if there's a successful play, somebody fucked up in there, and somebody's going to have to forgive themselves, and other people are going to have to forgive that person, and you're going to have to move on. That's the nature of sport, right?
Starting point is 02:04:16 That's pretty much the nature of sport. This one, for whatever reason, I wasn't catching the hints that like, nah, nah, nah, nah, no. We ain't ever, we ain't ever getting along. And I feel like that, this was going to be a move made regardless of what that suit judge Sue Robinson made a decision. I think just looking back, it feels like, I don't know if they have any special information. I'm sure they don't, but for whatever reason,
Starting point is 02:04:40 I refuse to believe that this shit was just dead, dead, but it feels like it was, what could have fucking happened that made them dead-dead in that relationship? I mean, it doesn't seem like it was one thing. Obviously, it sounds like it was a buildup, but it feels like Stefanski is the number one guy that doesn't like Baker. Doesn't it feel like they have a lot of animosity between them two? Those two beef, and he's a young, cool guy.
Starting point is 02:04:58 That's why I said no way. How are you ever going to figure it out? I don't know, but like Aaron and the Packers. Okay, that was pretty public pretty big pretty huge worthy of happening with the disrespect that you know is potentially happening there as opposed to nowhere else with any other mount rushmore quarterback in the history of the nfl and there was a lot of people i think a lot of people on tv even they were like oh this relationship is dead this relationship's dead it's like no i think a conversation can happen. And people can get past it, especially if it's business involved
Starting point is 02:05:28 and sports involved, you can do that. So I never really understood why the Baker-Clevel was never coming back to the other thing that was happening. And I don't think I ever bought into it. That shit was dead a long time ago. I mean, this was a decision that was made a long time ago. Who's going to take him, basically? If Baker had a Super Bowl ring and he had some more success,
Starting point is 02:05:48 then they may have been able to work it out. If Aaron wasn't as good as Aaron was, they may not have worked it out. Yeah, well, every situation. It might not have even happened, though, if he wasn't who he was. Yeah, like the whole thing. But it's a lot easier to make up when the team knows, hey, we really need this guy. Well, I pointed out the Aaron situation strictly because, like,
Starting point is 02:06:04 this isn't abnormal for players and teams to not get along big egos people a physical violent sport with tons of money young people old people the ones paying alphas guys yeah like alphas they've been told they're the man their whole life like you're gonna have issues there's a lot of times where a player in their organization their program don't get along fuck i didn't get along with our fucking organization for numerous times throughout my time as a Colt. Still love the Colts and everything. You can get past it. Winning cures everything.
Starting point is 02:06:30 Yeah, winning cures everything, which they did, though. But you also go along with all your teammates. And we haven't heard a lot of teammates come out in Baker's defense. That's crazy to me, too. That is wild to me. The most damning thing. That is the most. When you talk to GMs, especially young guys now,
Starting point is 02:06:45 like GMs or people in front offices or coaches they're big on like hey what's this dude like is he a good locker room dude is he good for our team they of course the film's got to show up but it's like they really do pay attention to the culture and they don't want to bring a turd in like it's i i love that they actually look at that it's a good deal it's a big deal now yeah not as much in the past like one dude can ruin a locker room it's. Because you get a couple of the young guys on your side, then a couple of the young guys start leaking a little information to somebody else. Then, oh, hey, why every time we have an open locker room, when we're sitting here after we shower up and we're half naked
Starting point is 02:07:14 and we have to talk to the media, why are they asking half of our team about this one player? So it's a big thing that everybody has to deal with. They're like, man, I'm so sick of talking about this. Yes. And, hey. What? That shit can spread, especially if teams are taking L's.
Starting point is 02:07:30 There's a little bit of drama. It's easy to point fingers quick. Oh, wait. Like, hey, this isn't our fault, right? No way. This is this motherfucker's fault. And by the way, the team has given him this amount of money. He's doing this and this and this whole thing.
Starting point is 02:07:39 And then that just grows and grows and grows. And then it's already hard enough to win a game. But if guys aren't getting along, if they're kind of separated, that's why the X factor of camaraderie is the biggest deal, I think, on whether or not a team is going to win or lose. And the team-building aspect of that has to be taken into account on whether or not you're going to like a motherfucker. And I think that's what you and I are both saying.
Starting point is 02:07:58 It's nice that this is becoming something that some GMs are thinking about. Other GMs would never think about it, though, and they'll be fucking stupid forever, honestly. They'll go, why don't we win? Why don't we win? It's just football. What do you mean? They can all get on the same page when they're on the field.
Starting point is 02:08:09 If they disagree and hate each other in the locker room, nah, it doesn't exactly work You're getting paid a lot of money. Fucking get along. That's what it is, yeah. You can pay me $20 million to get along with Charles Manson. I could do it. People think that kind of stuff. Well, you probably could.
Starting point is 02:08:21 I wouldn't. No, yeah, you probably could. No, I know Con Man has all of his music, but I would never do that. Charles Manson has music? Oh, yeah. Yeah, Beach Boys, everything. Oh, see, he probably could. I wouldn't, maybe. No, yeah, you probably could. No, I know Con Man has all of his music, but I would never do that. Charles Manson has music? Oh, yeah, Beach Boys, everything. Oh, see, he would know. I wouldn't, actually. I didn't even know they had music.
Starting point is 02:08:30 He lived with the Beach Boys. Yeah. What? That's true. Yeah, read one of the books. Bermuda, Bahama, Manson is our mama. Really? I didn't know Manson was a beach boy
Starting point is 02:08:46 he's a musician he's a player I don't know about that well he's a tattoo artist he's a murderer he's a serial killer he tattooed himself
Starting point is 02:08:55 singer I believe yeah cat scratch fever cult leader writer is that him writer probably
Starting point is 02:09:00 that's what happened you know more about him than us dude we just fucking learned this we're bringing some right now yeah Manson has a bunch of shows everybody's really intrigued by him Probably. That's what happened. You know more about him than us, dude. We just fucking learned this. We're brainstorming right now. Yeah. Manson has a bunch of shows.
Starting point is 02:09:09 Everybody's really intrigued by him. He's an ugly motherfucker. He's dead, right? Yeah. Yeah, he died in jail a little bit ago. Yeah, but everybody thinks like, oh, this handsome guy they always describe him as. I see a picture of him. Ted Bundy. They say Ted Bundy was handsome because Zac Efron played him in that movie.
Starting point is 02:09:20 Well, and the Ted Bundy tapes to show him in the courtroom and everyone is infatuated by the guy. Ladies love Ted, yeah. Well, that's why he was able to do that. He could lure him. Very charismatic. Ted would just show up in your house middle of the night. But he would also pick people up in his car, I think, too. Yeah. Take him out to a date. He was an inviter. Hit him with a
Starting point is 02:09:40 tire iron. What? That would hurt. Florida State, he broke into a dorm in just middle of the night, killed a couple people. This is like what you talk about, where he started in Washington and then just went to the town over. Nobody will even know. He jumped out of the window of a courtroom. I saw that in the movie, at least.
Starting point is 02:09:57 I think I've seen the actual- That's real life. Yeah, they show that in the movie. And then he stayed tolerant. He lived for a couple weeks, right? After that. Weeks. Weeks.
Starting point is 02:10:04 In the wilderness. Months out there? That was early on in the Bund just weeks. Weeks. In the wilderness. Once out there. That was early on in the Bundy. That was upper left of the world. He's still going all the way down yonder. Back then he got to take a train. Yeah. I hope there's none.
Starting point is 02:10:14 There's no serial killers out there around us. You know, they always do like the stats say, one in every thousand people is a serial killer or whatever. It has to be a little different now that everything's on camera, right? Even though you just got your truck stolen from your front yard. You would hope. Yeah, you, yeah. I don't think, I don't know.
Starting point is 02:10:32 Bill, where are you going on vacation? All right. Bill didn't deserve that. Let's go to the phone. There's no reason for that sidebar there. Bill, you didn't deserve that. You hear me, pal? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:42 But where are you going, Bill? Sorry, Bill. I'm going to Florida. Congrats. We'll going to Florida. Congrats. We'll be far away. I was just playing some bit, right? We're doing a bit? Is this a bit?
Starting point is 02:10:54 Just give it. It's a bit, Bill. Bill, I fucking love you, man. Yeah, Bill has shattered the expectations on the music on the ones and twos back there. He's great at what he does. And he uploaded a YouTube video. Bill's awesome. While doing it. Bill would do great at what he does. And he uploaded a YouTube video. Bill's awesome. While doing it.
Starting point is 02:11:08 Bill would do good at everything he does. That's what Bill does. That's why if he was, like you guys allude to, a killer, he would be great at it. And we'd never know. We would never know. I don't think Bill's killed anybody, but if he had to, I think Bill would be very efficient. Certainly.
Starting point is 02:11:19 So that's a compliment. Yeah, absolutely. We like having him around. Yeah, exactly. Every time he gets a delivery to the office, it's like... Keep you in your toes. All right, what's that? That's just in case somebody's not... Yeah, absolutely. We like having him around. Yeah, exactly. Every time he gets delivered to the office, it's like... Keep you in your toes.
Starting point is 02:11:27 All right, what's that? That's just in case somebody breaks in here, I guess. You guys think being a serial killer would be hard? Yeah. I don't think. You watch Dateline?
Starting point is 02:11:35 Everything's on camera these days. They track everything. Not everywhere. Everything everywhere. Okay, where are you thinking? Small town America. We got cameras there. We're going to try you
Starting point is 02:11:43 on small town America. These people... They got ring cans there and cell phones. Do they? Let's America? These people. They got ring cams there and cell phones. Do they? Let's go to the phones. I was just there. Ocean City? No.
Starting point is 02:11:49 Where'd you go? Ocean City. Is that where he went? He did go to Ocean City. That's on Small Town America, though. They got it. Yeah. That's a mecca.
Starting point is 02:11:56 You guys ever go to the Outer Banks in North Carolina? Is that where it is? No, I've never been. Me neither. I just hear about it and see. It's nice. I've seen some stickers lately on people's car. OTBX. Yeah. Is that what it is? OBS. OBS. Yeah, I've never been. Me neither. I just hear about it and see. I've seen some stickers lately on people's car. OTBX.
Starting point is 02:12:07 Yeah, is that what it is? OBS. OBS. Yeah, I've never been there. They love it. The people that go to Outer Banks love it. Yeah, it's an East Coast deal. Where do you scumbags go?
Starting point is 02:12:16 Middle East Coast. Cape Cod, Nantucket, Martha's Vineyard. But that's all what you guys already live, isn't it? Do you guys go to Florida from Boston, though? Not really. During the winter, absolutely. But during the summer, there's no point. They don't leave the cesspool.
Starting point is 02:12:29 They just stick in there and breed together. Why leave? It's got everything. It's got the folks. Let's go up to that area. We don't have a call from there. Thank God. Thank God.
Starting point is 02:12:41 Let's go to... This name was spelled interesting. I've never seen this before. Here's go to... This name was spelled interesting. I've never seen this before. Here we go. D-O-R-I-A-S. Darius? Darius in California. Remember, you get a 10 here, you're winning some merch.
Starting point is 02:12:55 Darius, what's going on? Is it Darius or is that Darius? See, how do you spell it? How do you spell the name? X-E-N-T-H-O-R-I-A-S. Is this Elon Musk's kid? Hilarious. X-E-N-T-H-Y?
Starting point is 02:13:15 O-R-I-S. It's from... It's Mexican. My parents named me after a Mexican demigod, so it would be Thorius. Like Achilles. Like Thor. Yeah, like Moana.
Starting point is 02:13:30 Zenthorius. Zenthorius, what do you want to talk about, pal? Hey, two things. The second one, probably more interesting than the first. So my brother's going to the Tahoe Golf Tournament, so he's wanting to know how the schedule is. I mean, we don't know about golf, but it's like a knockout thing where if you, you know,
Starting point is 02:13:47 the first day you're not going to make it to the second and then the second, you know, whoever finished there goes to the third. And there's like tea times for everybody that we can look up. Yeah. No cuts. The second. All right. There's your answer. The second is about the alien. And I don't know if it's something that we could,
Starting point is 02:14:04 we should talk about on air to be honest, because it's something that we should talk about on air, to be honest. It's some things that my family has in possession that we found in Mexico. What? Honestly, if the U.S. government found out that we had these things, they would probably be knocking on our door and doing that. Dude, hang on. The men in black. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 02:14:20 Demogorgons? What do you have? Yeah, what is it? It's the cops. So basically, it was in the state of Michoacan in Mexico. And my dad found these artifacts. They're pure jade, 100% pure gold. And about 95% of them depict what we would see as aliens,
Starting point is 02:14:38 you know, big head, big eyes. We found skeletons of these things. And if somebody was telling me, I wouldn't believe it. Where do you have these skeletons? I believe. We don't need pictures. This guy's so dead. The majority of them are in Mexico.
Starting point is 02:14:54 The bigger ones that my dad couldn't bring, you know, smuggle over to California. But just real quick. So hold on, Zentorius. Zentorius, hold on. Real quick. Hold on. There's a lot of fucking questions here. Zentorius, hold on. Real quick. Hold on. There's a lot of fucking questions here.
Starting point is 02:15:06 Zentorius, you guys have just been sitting on this? What have you just been sitting on and waiting on? What time to make a call into a show? Are they in the shed? Where are they, too? No, no, no, no. I'm not trying to do this for clout or for anything, but I know you're interested in this stuff,
Starting point is 02:15:19 so that's why I'm telling you. Super duper. My dad has sold some of the pieces. He sold, I'm not going to name a name, but from Sons of Anarchy, one of the actors on there, he sold it to them. Charles. He's a handsome guy, yeah.
Starting point is 02:15:30 Son of a, or hellboy guy. So long story short, anyway, if you look up the crown jewel of Belize, it's about 10 pounds. It's like the prized possession of the country of Belize. Just mind you, my dad pulled one out with a crane that weighed about 2,000 pounds. What? It's pure jade. It's like a crane that weighed about 2,000 pounds. What? It's pure jade. It's like a lion sitting crisscrossed apple pie with a big headdress with sapphire diamonds.
Starting point is 02:15:52 Wait, was this buried underneath in the earth? Yeah. Where? Yeah, he said he found it in the rock. How did he find it then? Underneath a dry lake bed, some of his friends were digging to build a cabin out there. And the excavator kind of just gave way caved in and they woke up they were inside of a like it looked like ruins um but
Starting point is 02:16:12 again about interesting because it is jade and pure gold but the more interesting thing is it's just they depict aliens you know ufos uh living among people they have a big tablet uh with ufos flying overhead their city underneath and like aliens and people walking around together. We have one where it's a lady giving birth to an alien, and the guy standing behind her is an extraterrestrial, like consoling her, telling her it's going to be okay. Dad. I don't know if you guys found that interesting.
Starting point is 02:16:41 There's a lot more, but I don't want to take up all your time. Sucking all that. I can talk to you off air. I'm not. Like Sweet Bit or whatever. All right. Thank you, Zenthorius. That sounds awesome.
Starting point is 02:16:51 I mean, I'm sure we can legitimize that over the phone. Sweet Blake. Sweet Blake. Have they told anybody about this? That's bad news. Where's that 2,000 pound thing of jade gold? No, he said skeletons. Well, that was underneath.
Starting point is 02:17:01 Yeah, they found skeletons as well. So, like, what do you, do you put them in formaldehyde? What do you do with those? I don't know. That wasn't a 10, but it was certainly a, oh, what's going on there? Send us some pictures. Bone structure may not be the same, so it may not deteriorate at the same pace as ours. I think the big thing is the tablets that
Starting point is 02:17:15 depict that aliens were just, like, very standard back in the day. That's, like, a lot of the alien stuff that I get tweeted now that we have chatted about this, it's all old school things, drawings with clear like, oh, there's aliens. Hieroglyphics like on the cape paintings that show alien scenes. And UFOs and stuff like that from way back in the day whenever there wasn't technology to tell you, hey, this is what it looks like. They were drawing it and stuff like that in these throwback paintings.
Starting point is 02:17:41 I guess even in the Mona Lisa. What about it? I'm not saying it. I mean, the YouTube stuff. It might have been a fake meme. It might have been a fake meme. There's a lot. Well, hold on.
Starting point is 02:17:51 Most meme facts are pretty... Well, that's the issue. Yeah, I started diving into the corner, a web of what the fuck is this fact? You know, it's a meme fact. Wait, what's going on with the Mona Lisa? I saw that. I was over there.
Starting point is 02:18:02 So I think there's something in the background. Oh, come on now. What? What's in the background of the Mona Lisa? I saw that. I was over there. So I think there's something in the background. Oh, come on now. What? What's in the background of the Mona Lisa? I don't know. Someone's going to say that they see aliens in the background? No, maybe it's not the Mona Lisa. I might be wrong.
Starting point is 02:18:14 Well, the pyramid stuff, that's why the Egypt stuff's crazy. Oh, that's awesome. How'd they do that? Yeah, and you couldn't really remake that without technology. Mona Lisa's that lady? Yeah. What's the Last Supper? The Last Supper's...
Starting point is 02:18:27 That's the Jesus. Before he dies. Judas Iscariot. You turn to 16th Chapel, stuff that's painted on the ceiling? Michelangelo. Leonardo da Vinci. I don't know about the Mona Lisa. Picasso?
Starting point is 02:18:38 That wasn't what I saw. What do we see here? I don't know. That's the Mona Lisa. Now, what's circled oh pull up the pull up the last supper i think i seen that i think i seen it on a meme there's like some in the back yeah i'm not sure you can find anything in anything well well true very true and especially any picture we pull up right now do we know if it's real or photoshop no we
Starting point is 02:18:59 have no idea what was it the nft bird well that's a whole nother game i heard that's struggling idea what was it the nft bird well that's a whole nother game i heard that's struggling uh maybe not so what's happening so the only thing is which last supper the one is da vinci the one he did the famous famous that one is the face that's the famous one they got a window in the back i'm not gonna check i don't know which other last supper are you referencing no people make a bunch of different things there's a bunch of different people do it with their own faces oh yeah yeah i was just making sure if this is the davinci one or not is this the eventual one i No, people make a bunch of different versions. There's a bunch of different backgrounds. People do it with their own faces. Oh, yeah, yeah. Search original. I was just making sure if this is the Da Vinci one or not. Is this the Da Vinci one?
Starting point is 02:19:28 I Googled it. I just, that's, I don't know. I don't know, dude. The windows in the back? Is that what happened? I don't know. This is how the lack of religion that I've had. I don't even know if that's the last sucker.
Starting point is 02:19:37 So if it's Mona Lisa or that one, is there any, is it just like an individual person like the Mona Lisa? I don't know. There's something in the background with a fucking alien thing. But it was on a meme. No, that stuff's real. I'm telling you. That's what Zentorius just told us. Well, Zentorius is dead, unfortunately.
Starting point is 02:19:52 Because whoever just heard that call. Well, who's in the Sons of Anarchy that is clearly into aliens that definitely bought this from Zentorius? I thought you were going to say Jim Irsay bought it. When he said, well, we actually sold it. And, you know, I was like, oh, Jim Irsay bought this. This is part of the Jim Irsay collection, for sure. If they got alien porn, I'd like to get my hands on that. What's your problem?
Starting point is 02:20:11 Nicholas Cage is definitely calling that guy. If he can get his number, he'll buy something. Nick Cage speaks to aliens. He has a new movie out. Preserve it. Strictly scientific research. Zito just Googled alien artifacts from Mexico. This is what popped up.
Starting point is 02:20:23 Sweet. Jesus. Yep. That checks out. With the headd Mexico. This is what popped up. Sweet. Jesus. Yep. That checks out. With the headdress. That's what he said. So you're saying the humans back then sculpted that to depict what was happening? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:20:34 Or he's not saying aliens made that, is he? No, he's saying that they had to have the picture of something, though, that they did this for. I mean, aliens probably don't look like that, though. How do you know? I don't. Who looks like that? You? No. I've never seen anything look like that other than what we don't look like that though How do you know? I don't Who looks like that? You? No
Starting point is 02:20:46 I've never seen anything look like that Other than what we think aliens look like How come everybody from all these different fucking cultures That have never seen the same thing Draw the same thing? Because they think it's As time grows Our brain grows
Starting point is 02:20:56 And our body gets weaker Because we don't need our body as much We need our brain to get bigger and stronger But I'm saying like How did the Who's in Mexico? That's the Mayans? And the Aztecs
Starting point is 02:21:04 And Aztecs Aztecs and the Mayans And then over in Greece They're drawing the same shit Yeah that's what I'm saying, who's in Mexico? That's the Mayans? And the Aztecs. And Aztecs. Aztecs and the Mayans. And then over in Greece, they're drawing the same shit. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's very interesting. I want some answers. Ted Bundy could go from one town to the next just like five decades ago, and nobody knew about it. I want to know how the Mayans and the Aztecs knew the exact same thing.
Starting point is 02:21:20 It's just like the Richard Gere thing before the internet. How did the whole world know about it? For real. It traveled before the internet. Like, how did the whole world know about that? For real. It traveled before the internet. It was cross country. It was international. Yeah. The Egyptian hieroglyphics with that stuff is also nuts.
Starting point is 02:21:32 Yeah. And the caves. Yes. Yeah. They all seem to look the same. So I don't know. Stonehenge. I need to see a bean.
Starting point is 02:21:40 You know that. Show me a bean. I could punch in a moth. Skydiphones? I'll give them a hug. Definitely. I don't know if they're hugging back. Especially if. It's got the funds? I'll give them a hug. Definitely. I don't know if they're hugging back, especially if they're fucking... They might be slimy and shit, too.
Starting point is 02:21:50 I don't think they're going to be slimy. Slippery, for sure. Swing away. They might be in the way. Liquid. Merle. Well, they've got to have some sort of advancement in technology. You'd think they'd shower.
Starting point is 02:21:59 They don't, though. They may be way behind us. Well, then how the fuck do they get there? Maybe there's different breeds of aliens, and those are the super scientific advanced ones. You sound like a mark. So to answer what you're talking about for paintings. You do sound like a mark. I am a mark for aliens.
Starting point is 02:22:13 The Crucifixion of Christ painting is apparently the one that everyone says there's UFOs out floating around in. Let's see. Up there to the right. Top? Up there to the right. Right and left. What's that supposed to be? Do we know?
Starting point is 02:22:23 Exactly. That's the question. The sun and the moon? Can we talk to the artists? Are those Italians to, right, left. What's that supposed to be? Do we know? Exactly. That's the question. The sun and the moon? Can we talk to the artists? Are those Italians to the right? Yeah. All the great artists are Italian, too. No, the people that took them out.
Starting point is 02:22:34 Pontius Pilate, you mean? Yeah. Those are Romans. Much different. No, that's Italians. We've gone to a lot of regions. What are the things in the sky? Anyway, none of us fucking know.
Starting point is 02:22:43 I'm so confused by it all. But does somebody know? That's what confused by it. But does somebody know? That's what I want to know. Does somebody know? And how long have they known? And how have they kept a secret for this long? And do they fucking just freak out every night when they go to bed? Like, oh, tomorrow might be the day where shows up and we're just all dead.
Starting point is 02:22:56 Yeah, they definitely know. And I think that's why when Mike Gallagher came on and he was like, a lot of people think there's a chance that this is just us from the future coming back and trying to. Opening a portal, all that shit. That also. portal all that shit that also another another dynamic to it well you know me and foxy did see whatever it is yeah you saw the portal yeah i love that theory and what if that's actually just a portal not from the future but from another alien planet where these aliens are just going to watch football games i saw cern just came back on yesterday they just started the cern which does open particle collider deal.
Starting point is 02:23:25 Oh, so they can create black holes. Underneath Europe. We're creating them. We don't need to create those. They slam these atoms together at super high
Starting point is 02:23:31 speed to try to create anti-matter or whatever that means. Yeah, they've created elements to it. Why are we doing that? Because we want to find the portals.
Starting point is 02:23:38 It's been off for like four years. They just turned it on and they said it's going to fuck it up. All this shit is being turned on right by the powers that be.
Starting point is 02:23:45 It means something's coming, right? I mean, I don't know. Yeah, we're dead. No, not dead. We're shaking hands. And listen, we'll send Brock right out there, won't we? Exactly. Fucking Brock's ready.
Starting point is 02:23:54 Brock's ready. Francis Ngannou's right behind him. Boom. Good luck getting to him. The Rock will be president of the entire world. Oh, yeah. Dwayne will go out there with what he was wearing to the Super Bowl intro deal. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:24:03 Dominic. The Maroon. Yeah, and here's some more artifacts from Mexico. Ooh. Is that a skeleton? I believe that is a human skeleton. See that one? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:24:12 The head looks weird, though. Little big head. Yeah, it looks like old school Neanderthal. It's like cone heads. Look at those teeth. Is it real is the question. Sure. Well, nothing is on the internet, especially if we don't want to believe it.
Starting point is 02:24:24 It's not real. It's from Daily Mail UK and LiveScience.com. Put, nothing is on the internet, especially if we don't want to believe that it's not real. It's from Daily Mail UK and LiveScience.com. Put your ride out right on that chin. You wouldn't miss. I'll tell you what. So quick. That thing puts that thing on you,
Starting point is 02:24:34 that thing's going to be swinging around the back of it. That cranium, I can tell the cranium is so thin. That thing will crack instantly. You're going straight jaw to brain. Look at that jaw. Good luck with having that jaw last, buddy.
Starting point is 02:24:47 One punch from a small person will break that. What if that is... What if that is... What if that is what combat becomes? All these little aliens land and every ex-football player says they ain't got no jaw.
Starting point is 02:25:02 Put a helmet on and just fucking start spearing people it would feel good to make a few tackles back in the day tackles too you got fucking Ed Reed flying
Starting point is 02:25:10 Troy Paul I got AJ just leading with the head everybody Coon coming through with the head down
Starting point is 02:25:19 that would be Mike Allstott oh my god what if it is football helmet to helmet hits that saved the universe? Could be the case, especially if we're looking at jaws like that. Ain't that right, AJ?
Starting point is 02:25:29 I mean, the future looks bright for us humans. Hey, let's go, humans. Come on, humans. Put the helmets on and go right for the fucking jaw. Get your own bet as a football. Right now. Can he run right now? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:25:42 Let's go to the phones. Marshawn, then. Oh, yeah. Oh. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Imagine Beastquake hitting a fucking alien who's got a little soft-ass jaw. They'd leave. Boom.
Starting point is 02:25:55 Let's go to the phones. Let's go to Alex in Indiana. What's going on, Alex? Hey, what's going on, Pat? Hey, just hanging, Alex. What do you want to talk about, Paul? Hey, so my brother has tickets to SummerSlam. Nice.
Starting point is 02:26:10 Let's go. Nashville, Tennessee. And I want to know, should I cancel my wedding plans to come with him? Are you getting married? I'm not getting married, no. I'm attending a wedding. Who's wedding? Who's wedding? Anybody sweet? I'm not even married, no, but I'm attending a wedding. Whose wedding? Whose wedding?
Starting point is 02:26:25 Anybody sweet? I'm not even really close to him. It's my wife's friend. See you at SummerSlam, dude. See you at SummerSlam, dude. Sounds like it. You just drew a dick that's peeing and cumming on the top of your... What are you doing?
Starting point is 02:26:39 I drew a spaceship. I'm not done with it, man. It's like a tweet earlier. What the hell is wrong with you? Is it? Jesus Christ. No, I'm not done yet, man. We were talking about the Sistine Chapel.
Starting point is 02:26:52 I started drawing. He looks like he's in school. John Dong, take Johnny Hill and Superbad. First off, let me finish the spaceship. It's a spaceship. It's two balls of dick.
Starting point is 02:27:03 It's shooting out something about the edge god damn it i don't show you work that's not done you're a work in progress all right thanks what's this guy's fucking i'm literally first of all i want you to watch your computer to your lenovo stop looking at my desk all i heard was trying to focus did you hear how loud you dragged it across that desk to you? You're like, brrrr. Big block dick.
Starting point is 02:27:28 You gotta know, I need those, those are the fuel chambers for the fuel. Okay. They don't use fuel, dude. Why's your rocket going sideways
Starting point is 02:27:35 across the top of your face? Because we're already in orbit, bro. Oh, okay, sweet. Thanks, man. Can we see your rocket just in case? No, when I'm done,
Starting point is 02:27:42 you can see it, man. What's your deal? Why would I let you see it before that? Oh, let's go to funds. Last phone call of the day. Nobody's going to attend. Sorry about it. Let's go to Matthew in Michigan.
Starting point is 02:27:53 Matthew, what's going on at 5RNG? Go to 5RNG.com. He's prone. Cut Mac. 50% off. What's going on? Hey. Hey.
Starting point is 02:28:02 Hey. Hey. Hey. How you doing, man? Hey, pretty good, Matthew. How are you, Matt? Hey, pretty good, Matthew. How are you, pal? Yeah, up here we don't go for the chin. We go for the kneecaps.
Starting point is 02:28:10 Oh, hell yeah. Most expensive offense in the NFL, Detroit Lions. What do you want to talk about, Matthew? We got one minute. Well, now that Baker's gone to South Carolina, maybe Detroit will go pick up Sam Darnold for a backup, seeing as he can actually win a game instead of Blau or Boyle. Bullshit!
Starting point is 02:28:33 I don't hate it. I tried to do a triple flip with the pencil, really sent us off on a high note. I dropped it. Not as bad as Blau and Boyle just got got buried but what a week it has been we apologize that we're off for the next couple days i'm sure the sirius xm fill-in host will be just as great if not better uh aj anything to say to sirius before we get out of here mad dog wednesday's is usually his best day because he's coming from stephen a right yeah he's coming for first take
Starting point is 02:28:59 ready to do his thing i don't think he was on first take today seems like a lot of people taking off wimbledon this week and we are doing that as well because we're a bunch of lazy bums. With that being said, when we come back, it's going to be massive. It's going to be big. It might be the biggest show we have ever done. Or it might just be average. We'll see you in about 10 days. Cheers. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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