The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 699 - High Horsin' Around With Darius Butler, Colt Knost, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: July 19, 2022

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about the budding rumors circling around certain players leaving the PGA Tour to go join LIV including Open Champion Cam Smith, and chat a little bit about the hypocrisy surrounding the whole situation. Joining the show top chat about his thoughts on the LIV golf situation, Deshaun Watson's looming suspension and how many games, if any he will be suspended, and much more is 9 year NFL veteran, host of the Man-To-Man Podcast, friend of the progrum, Darius Butler (24:40-49:19). Later, former PGA Pro, host of Gravy & The Sleeze, and CBS Golf Analyst, Colt Knost joins the show to give his thoughts on the LIV situation, why he doesn't fault players for taking the money, what he thinks this is going to look like in the future, and his thoughts on changes coming to the PGA Tour (1:29:30-1:42:12). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show, and listen on Sirius XM Channel 82, Mad Dog Radio. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people. It is Tuesday, July 19th, 2022, and this sports show begins right now. Let's ride. Back from the dead like Jesus Christ, the Let's Ride rides again. I can't wait to ride into today's show. Speaking of riding,

there was a situation that happened last evening that was in my palm, in my hand, in my universe. And it feels like now is the perfect time to talk about it. Sure. It was kind of quiet last night, you know. Didn't really say much on the Twitter about the tweets I was receiving and the things that were being said to me. and the things that are being said to me. To fully, you know, kind of paint the picture,

I feel like we have to do a new segment. Okay. I love new segments. We're a big-time segment show. I think everybody knows that. This one's going to stick around for a long time because I don't think this act is ever going to stop happening. Here we go. To fully illustrate what I was going through last night,

I will read just one tweet that I got from last night, but it would be impossible to do it from this altitude, this level. Let's do some high horsing, shall we? Okay. That's good. So last night, okay, last night, I got a tweet from somebody that said, Last night, I got a tweet from somebody that said,

Hey, Pat, I came on to the Twitter platform to tell you that my name is Eric. And earlier today, hey, earlier today, I got in my car. I drove to Texaco. What? No, they didn't have any. I went to Shell. What? No, didn't have any. I went to BP. What? Had to Texaco. What? No, they didn't have any. I went to Shell. What? No, didn't have any.

I went to BP. What? Had to get gas in my car. Okay. I was going to take said car to the mall so I could stop by Apple. What? And buy an iPhone. I got all the way to Apple, tried to buy an iPhone.

They were out. So I actually had to go on to Amazon and get the iPhone. On my trip back to my house to send this tweet to you, I stopped at Starbucks. Need a boost. Had to get a little bit of a boost. Had to get a little bit of energy.

I plopped down on my couch. I turned on ESPN. I watched the Home Run Derby. Great event. Turned on a Disney movie on my second television. Of course. And I told you that you are a Saudi Arabian apologist because you are happy that athletes are getting $125

million from a new tour when the old tour was a monopoly for 30 years not guaranteeing any money to any of their golfers. You are anti-American. You are a bad person.

You should not have a platform, sir. You don't even know golf terminology. You don't know golf. The golf media, we might sound bah, bah, bah, bah, like sheep on a horse. But this is what I was receiving last night. Little winded. Oh, my God, Eric. Little winded Little winded

Why did I just say All the things I just said Was that actually in a tweet Maybe Thread Let me drink this real quick My Starbucks The pox

Almost fell twice. I was close. I was going to do it. Great balance. But the reason why I said such a tale is because although Eric drove himself,

he could have got an Uber. Sure. Could have got an Uber there and did all that. Just take a little pizza here. So this is where Saudi Arabian money is. Okay?

Okay. It's everywhere. So, you know, could have taken Uber. He drove himself. Wanted to get gas. Stopped at all the gas stations there. Bought the thing on Amazon. Missed the fact that he bought a bunch of tickets for a bunch of concerts from Live Nation.

He did fly on a plane at one point. Eric was tweeting me a Boeing plane, which his engines are in absolutely everything. He watched a Disney movie. Obviously, we saw that entire thing. He was on Twitter tweeting me, which is actually, you know, they're the largest investor, I believe, hold the most equity in Twitter. And then if he would have went on Facebook, which I assume he did afterwards, and said, boom, got Pat Maxey on Twitter.

That was amazing. I just say that to say this. I am not pro-S pro Saudi Arabia's actions. I am not pro any country's actions or places actions or states actions that are like stupid and negative and not needed in our country and not in the vision of the future of what we would all like the world to look like. But what I am saying is I'm sick of the athletes being the only ones being attacked from getting this money from a moral standpoint when all of these companies get celebrated whenever they get an investment that's large that ups the net worth of them and their company and their business.

Listen, there's gonna be problems with money literally from any dollar that you see we obviously learned from bill burr about coco chanel and his latest stand-up and that was on her her wikipedia and then we also know about the beginnings of a lot of disney's beginnings of their company there's a lot of you could take that, but there's a lot of bad money in the world because there was a lot of bad people in the world for a long, long time. We hope to change that. We hope to become a better society, but also we have to realize for what it is that the money that you all are morally high horsing on is in your everyday life everywhere that you're

at and although you were never told that now you're being told this about the golfers if you're going to take a stand against athletes who have worked their ass off we're on a league and in a tour that guaranteed no money shouldn't we go after the bazillionaires that are also doing the same thing well pat those are publicly traded companies, so the stock market's the only place that's allowed to collect money from a $675 billion fund for investments and athletes aren't able to do it. Small business people aren't able to do it.

That's a fascinating high horse to be riding your ass in on. Absolutely. And it's a shame because like the PGA Tour was something we all grew up watching. I'm a big golf fan. This is going to make the PGA Tour better, I think. Tom Smith, who's alleged to go to live,

was flying a commercial coach trying to shove the Claret Jug into an overhead bin. Pat Perez, Dustin Johnson, and the boys are on a private plane having the time of their life because there was an opportunity that Saudi Arabia saw. There was a business that was operating as a monopoly that wasn't paying their players or treating anybody correctly.

Not anybody. I guess there's some people that are still locked with the BGA Tour. But I hate that we are being attacked as some group of people that don't understand the severity of things that have happened in the past in other countries.

We do. A lot of people are calling me stupid last night on Twitter. I am, but also, I'm one of the only athletes, I think, that really does business for myself, and I've had pretty good success. If I wanted to, and this is me. Hey, how you doing?

Keep moving. See that? One of these. This is me doing one of these. In the next couple months, I could run this company's worth up to a billion dollars if I wanted to, just like that. I could be a billionaire in four months if I wanted to, if I wanted to.

If I was to accept every ad that we get pitched, if I was to go do live shows two times a week, if I was to do any of that with all of our shit, I could run up to a billion just like that. Literally. It's wild. I did not know that was the case. But that's how the world operates. So I'm not necessarily as dumb as everybody thinks when it comes to business stuff. And I hate that the business of athletes is now being judged when nothing else is.

It's all celebrated, but when an athlete does it, it's not. That's my stance. And, you know, the good news is when reality kind of stinks, we can just go, like, play video games. Nothing bad. Get away. Go to escape PGA Tour has another one coming out Look at this Bro the Masters

Get away Sweet Doesn't matter If you know You love how the PGA Tour Has treated its players For the last 30 years Because it was able to do so

Because it had no competition We all love golf We all love the Masters Oh yeah The The checking of the birds in the back. The pimento cheese. The dog loaf.

And the no cell phones. Beautiful thing. We love that. And EA Sports coming together. Yeah. Thank you. PGA Tour with the Road to the Masters. Love it.

That's an amazing thing. Fuck. Can't. Can't play. Sorry, buddy. Hate to break it to you. Yep, EA Sports, $1.1 billion investment from Saudi Arabia. They just did a deal with PGA Tour.

So that's what happens. That's what we're talking about. That's what we're talking about. Yeah, $1.1 billion. There's a chance. And PGA Tour didn't know this, obviously. They would never know that. You know, just like the 23 other businesses that sponsor PGA Tour that have Saudi Arabian investment money into it.

So PGA Tour, ipso facto, kind of receiving, you know, Saudi Arabian money. Potentially, I mean, unless every dollar is tracked. And, you know, especially digitally, you could probably do that. You could just cut it like a, and it doesn't go into the marketing department. Divvy it up. Because none of that money is going into there. No, no, no. No, of course not. No, of that money is going into there. No, no, no. No, of course not.

No, good. None of the bad money. Yeah, you're right. They mark that with a special ink. Exactly. But in digital, how do they do it? They just probably tag it with like one of those trackers. Zero or one.

Yeah, PJ Tour is not taking any of that, right? From those 23 companies that are sponsors of theirs. Like, don't they have a Coke thing? Yeah, I believe it's the presenting sponsor of the Players Championship. Really? Yeah. Wait, Coke? Coke-Cole?

Coke-Cole. What? Coke-Cole. As American as they come. It is. No more Coke-Cole. Well. I'm drinking Pepsi.

Listen. What about the polar bears? That's a mistake. Well, AJ likes it. But yeah, $1.1 billion investment into EA Sports. It's in the game. It's in Saudi. It's a PGA Tour.

That money, obviously, none of that $1.1 billion went to the PGA Tour, right? Because if the PGA Tour was just like the other 23 companies, if they were taking Saudi money, then the moral thing that all the sheep of golf media that are attacking every athlete that is changing the course and the trajectory of its family's life forever. Those people would just be completely full of fucking shit then, right? Wouldn't it?

I mean, I suppose so. It makes sense. But also, you know, that's probably going to be the best game they've had in the last 10 years. So ipso facto, the PGA Tour game will make money for EA Sports, which will then, in fact, make money for Saudi Arabia. It seems like, if my math is right. Well, listen, this Saudi water here, okay?

What? It's really good. It's delicious. It's delicious. I buy a lot of it. Sure. So you're saying I potentially helped. Saudi apologist.

Yeah, there's a chance. I got even worse news for you. What? What? See that chain around your neck? Gold Okay Probably Aztec gold

And the Aztecs used to cut off Their people's heads What's this guy's name? Holy shit For the sun god What would they do? The thing I'm most scared about And I noticed this as I was horsing around

And I seen you on there Like look at that Right there on my hand Oh no Take it off That's tough I mean they've done The business they've done with people Has all been completely cleaned by the book seeing me on there? Like, look at that right there. Oh, no. Take it off. That's tough. I mean, they've done... The business they've done with people

has all been completely cleaned by the book. Above the board. Boom. Never ever talked about. And then, like... Oh, yeah. And Josh's bad dad. Let's knock it into the suicide.

Then this. Yeah, he has a bad dad. Yeah, that thing. Oh, my. Where's fucking porcelain from? Is this okay? I think this is okay. Yeah, it might be. Take those fucking shoes off, though, right now. Yeah, that thing. Oh, my. Where's fucking porcelain from? Is this okay? I think this is okay. Yeah, it might be.

Take those fucking shoes off, though, right now. How about that? How about the Nobles, the official sponsor of the Saudi Golf League? What? The SGL? Well, and CNN, also the official media sponsor of the Saudi Golf League. So CNN, that can't be. What are they doing?

Are you serious? Anderson Cooper? Golf media told me, golf media told me, because I'm supporting the golfers getting life-changing money that they've worked their asses off for and sacrificed so much. You don't just fall into being a professional athlete. There are some businesses where people just happen to out of the right birth canal

and nepotism puts them right at the front of the line. We've all seen it. By the way, a lot of the businesses that are high horsing to me are actually those types of businesses. Very rarely does a professional athlete just pop out. The amount of work that has to take place to become a professional athlete in any fucking sport, and I'm not saying that because it was me that did that. I was the lowest form of a professional athlete in any fucking sport. And I'm not saying that because it was me that did that.

I was the lowest form of a professional athlete. But the amount of guys that I've met in all sports and women that I've met all over the world that are professional athletes, their lives, their dedication, their passion, their entire commitment and being, getting rewarded in a fashion that can set their entire family up forever.

I don't know how you could be against that, honestly, unless you were just 100% like, well, they're the only ones that are taking any of this money and benefit from it. And if that was the case, I thought we'd be against them. That's right. But that's not the case.

I think we just illustrated that. And I just got my breath back. And I just want to let everybody know, I'm not a Saudi apologist. I'm not any other country that did absolutely horrendous things that probably produced a lot of money. And a lot of their money is invested in a lot of things and started a lot of companies that you probably don't want to learn about. That graphic we just made, nowhere near the amount. No.

Nazi-funded companies, China-invested companies, Russian-invested. I mean, if we are just going to start saying, well, where that money's coming from is a bad place, we're fucked. Take off all your clothes. Don't do anything. But I like the fact that we're at that point where we're going to say, hey, we are going to make the world a better place in the future. And we're all on board on that side. So with that being said, fuck all of you that tweeted me last night. And let's dive into the show.

Last night was awesome. Home Run Derby was like 10 hours long. Then the captain ran afterwards. At Boston Conner, you look fantastic. Shout out to your nobles. Mac Jones,

Saudi Arabian apologist. Yep. That's right. Yes, he is. Just want to let you know that. I just want to let you know that. So it's not, is there anything about you,

Mac Jones, in Saudi Arabia right now? Okay, fine. Ty, last night there anything about you, Mac Jones, in Saudi Arabia right now? Okay, fine. Ty, last night home run derby. Baseball fan. That's a big deal, right? I enjoyed that. It was 10 hours long.

The Albert Pujols moment was awesome. The pitchers is all I pay attention to the entire time. I assume the baseball players should hit homers every single time. When they don't, I'm surprised. But I can see how they can get tired. I mean, that's a lot. I start judging the pitchers that there's a million dollars sitting on that shoulder yeah of those pitchers some of them look like they're 95 90 do the people that win this

normally say hey i ain't here for the sentimental shit i don't care that you were my high school baseball coach you are now 75 years old and you're not going to be able to put it on a dot like the fucking winners guy was. The two in the finals had the best pitchers. I think that is a highly underrated conversation about those home run derbies every single year. Yeah, I think they used to be more sentimental, and guys would, if they were doing it for the first time or whatever, they'd bring their dad. Bryce won with his dad, right? He did.

In Washington when he was there. Right, and he was cheating, too, because he was doing the quick pitch where it's supposed to be when the ball... Yeah, they don't care anymore. It's supposed to be when the ball lands. By the way, if that fucker can throw... Exactly. You should take as many hacks as you can.

I agree. And then it's kind of on the production to be able to follow where the ball is going. Oh, they missed one last night. They missed several. Oh, yeah. For sure. But, yeah, I think guys now, with how many... It is very physically... If you watch Puj like, it looks like he's just fucking raking

and they're just routine fly outs because he's taking so many swings. I thought Alonzo hurt his back in his first round. Right, and I think that's possible because the guys hit – you hit for three minutes and, what, you get a bonus if you hit two homers over 440 feet, and everyone does. So the polar bear, back-to-back champ of the home run derby, all eyes were on him in the back. He was doing some RDLs, I believe.

No, it was actually some other dead squat thing. That's supposed to be really good for running 40s, by the way, the squat he was doing. The side squat. That's supposed to be, this one is supposed to be, allegedly, and studies might have changed that. Allegedly, that particular lift is most directly correlated with quicker twitches and everything like that. I learned that from the Stanford teammates I had on my team when that bar was, I think it's a hex. Is that a hex? It sounds right.

It's like a double trapezoid stacked on top of each other. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Double trapezoid. Yeah, I think you're right. Hex bar, dude. Hex, yeah.

I think that one, when the Stanford kids all showed up in our locker room, in our weight room, that thing showed up. And, you know, like Griff Whalen broke down to me. Well, you see the studies. They're all much smarter. I don't know if studies have proven differently, which seems to happen. But the scientists and the studies people are all smart. They're smarter than everybody.

We're going to high horse it again? Well, listen. Definitely could. But I saw him doing that. In that first round, though, there was a moment where I saw him like – A little tweak. Felt like he was loosening his back up a little bit, and then the ball wasn't going as far,

and they didn't say anything on the commentary. So I texted Michael Cole, who's a diehard Mets fan. I was like, hey, Alonzo just hurt his back. Alonzo just hurt his back. And he goes, fuck you or something like that. He wasn't able to watch it the exact time he watched it afterwards. He was like, fuck you. That didn't happen.

You're lying to me. I was like, they didn't talk about it, but my untrained eye, I think he hurt. Unless he bats like that all the time, feels like he got hurt. That has to be a real worry. That's max. Oh, yeah. I mean, by the way, people are hyping you up, too. So you are. there's adrenaline flowing if you have any little nagging injury and you're just swinging and I'm not saying Alonzo got hurt

I'm just saying it caused my thought after watching him because I think Michael Cole really likes him Yeah And I want to be like I almost want to text on be like hey Cole I think cuz gonna be out like a month or two Yeah, because of the home run derby. That has to be what happened, and then people have kind of dwindled off on hitting. To your point, yes.

But in the last round, they were talking about how his swing was a little bit different. They were talking about how he was kind of maybe forcing it, and it could be because of that. But Dave Joust is his pitcher, who was his all-the-time, full-time BP pitcher the last two seasons. That would be who you would have. When he won the home run derby. This year is not the bp pitcher for the mets anymore so he

just used him for the all-star game when and he didn't win this year oh he doesn't work for the mets he's worked for i don't think he's with the gnats now oh sandbag okay wow okay cool is there any gnats guys in it yeah yeah not for long but well for 40 or 15 years that's a long commitment i mean it's a lot of money and that was the way uh rosenthal i think tweeted yeah rosenthal tweeted uh once i turn this down 440 million dollar offer everybody's these guys are fucking idiot and it's like 15 years yeah not a chance listen 440 million dollars a lot of money i would it would be hard to say no to that but everything gets put into perspective real quick when it's like less than what everybody else is making at your position and you are a fucking stud and he's 24

so yeah that that's he's gonna get one bite at the apple potentially if he takes a deal like that as opposed to he's probably gonna get traded now and then get five less years and 50 million dollars more you know next year in free agency yeah he's a bad businessman though remember he's an idiot athletes are dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb. That's basically what I was told last night. Like, you know. A former athlete turned sports media guy. Of course, you don't understand.

Insert name of whatever. Right. And it's like, well, I mean, maybe I don't understand what the fuck you do for a living. But I feel like I have a pretty good grasp on this business. I feel pretty good about it. I got so mad last night reading this. Shouldn't get mad. Just got off vacation. We returned yesterday. New York Post

article. Awful announcing article. We didn't get to the bottom of anything, but we tried. It was great. Having a great day. And then I got all these schmucks telling me how dumb I am and how I'm a... People call me a terrorist almost, like anti-American. I'm like,

you're tweeting me that. Yeah, it's select. This is actually on the same, hey, this is on the same, hey, this is the same platform. You're basically doing the same thing. Well, it's publicly, it's not just

privately. It's like, oh, so you're for the people that are worth hundreds of billions of dollars only keeping each other's hundreds of billions of dollars. Is that what you're saying? So we're a lot. I just, I got so angry. We're going to wait, by the way, because Colt Nost is on in two hours. There's no chance of me waiting until he's on. No.

Because he's saying, oh, Pga gave over 480 million dollars in prize money saying and i think he kind of like gave the the bird call yeah to everybody so like that's why i was like pretty excited to you know chat with him today because it was like weren't you on the fucking tour what how did you guys let this fly and how did the media people not cover i didn't know that they didn't give guaranteed money to the guys on tour. I didn't know that travel, board, food, caddies, everything, the full salary coming out of their pocket.

So there's a chance like Ricky Fowler was probably losing like 10 to 15 grand a week there for a while when he was playing bad. But you get to be in the PGA Tour. Okay, well, the PGA Tour gets to have these motherfuckers that they market are going to be on tv and get their advertising deal 23 of those companies that they're advertising with happen to be companies that are getting money for i just don't understand i don't understand how anybody could be not on the side that we're on i i and by the way that's probably because i'm becoming an old fucking

stooge i guess where i'm just like kind of in my front lawn looking at people saying, you fucking idiots. No, I don't think so. That's actually how I feel right now about this whole situation. How could you be against Com Smith, blue-collar dude from Australia, flying coach with a clarinet jug, doing his thing, drinking the beer, and then he gets offered $90 million. That changes.

How could you be pissed at this guy who has zero dollars guaranteed to him from this other company it's almost like a contest like you get to compete in this it's like you you might be able to win money that's not how an agreement is that's not how a contract is one person has to show up the other people don't do anything like get the fuck out of here like i don't know how you could be against com smith getting an item billy ho we heard his whole story. What's his dad's name? Big Bill or something like that? Yeah, I think so, yeah.

Big Bill, his dad, blue-collar guy. Billy Horschel's not going to live. He's super PGA. But if that guy was offered $150 million guaranteed, how could you not be like, hey, good for you, Bill. Like, you know, I don't know,

but I guess that's just not how the world works. No, you can't be mad at the individual players at all because they're going to get money. No, he didn't keep his word. He said he was happy with fucking no money. That's what people are saying. He was happy with no money guaranteed. He said, oh, you don't have your word anymore?

It's like, is the word going to pay my fucking kid's tuition 20 years from now? What are we even talking about? The only way you could be mad is if you're like me and you're selfish. And I'm mad at Liv because it makes it harder to bet when it's lesser players in a tournament versus all the best players. I feel like they're going to get everybody, pal. That's fine. As long as they're all in one place.

Now, that sounds very ignorant, I guess, because I'm not somebody that comes from the golf world. But I don't know how you can see Dustin Johnson do very well in the open. And if you're exempt to the majors, and the majors are going to do that, I don't know how you fly coach. I don't know how you pay all your people out of your own pocket. I don't know how you do and handle and have to play 15x the amount you, and not just take the guaranteed money.

We'll take care of everything. I don't know how you continue to say no to that. Other than the tradition thing, and maybe guys don't need money. Maybe they come from families that just have a shit ton of money, I guess. But all the people that are coming after me for this, I feel like come from a lot of money. They all come from a lot of money, I guess. But all the people that are coming after me for this, I feel like come from a lot of money. Yeah, definitely. They all come from a lot of money.

You have no fucking deal what life is like for people once that happens. It's a whole different world. I'd be on the lift tour. Fuck yeah, if you're good enough. I don't know how you wouldn't. Guaranteed money

versus non-guaranteed money. Who's the dumb one? I mean, you tell me. Joining us now is a man who had, he said yesterday on the Man to Man pod live at YouTube.com. He said he had a source.

He's breaking this. Whoa. He had a source. Yeah, so he and I got linked, actually, for having sources with the Levertour. I don't have any fucking sources. I'm just giving my opinion. This guy has sources all over the world. Whoa.

Mostly because he was a nine-year NFL vet. Big-ass brain. Great networker. Great on TV. He was on Good Morning Football all last week. Absolutely crushed it. Said some things with more passion against kickers and punters than for them. I don't know if you saw that.

That was weird. Seemed as if. He was like, ah, fuck them. Fuck those dudes. I did see that. And then it was like, oh, these guys are good guys. He was like, fuck them. Fuck those dudes. I did see that. And then it was like, oh, these guys are good guys. Yeah, we're not in the wrong, dude. What the fuck is wrong with you, dude?

Come on. Calm down, dude. He didn't become a corporate stud shell out, did he? I hope not. Ladies and gentlemen, Darius Butler. Darius Butler. Wow. So that's how you took that, huh?

Well, I was watching. I took it for what it was. The passion that was displayed in the anti kicking and punting i mean you're way you're way up there i'm like oh kind of a hack thing to say there heard about 100 people well look at the look at the amount of attention he's kind of diving into the little details here on that particular a little bit too close to home feels like he actually feels like he actually meant that and then the pro one it was like man what about my guy benatari man yeah i said we won games yeah but that's not how you said it then he started a dynasty up there up there in new england

with his foot so it went both ways come on that went both ways hey that's your business baby it was a blind take now someone who frequ, who comes on this show a lot, actually wrote that take. As you know, you're a big segment show now, so they're a big segment show as well, and we all had to send in our blind takes or whatever. He's not coming on the show. What the hell is that about?

It's a stretch. I'm somebody sitting there, and I just had to go with it. You can actually stamp it. I may have got to look behind the curtain about those segments. I thought you were talking about segments. 7A, 7B, 7C. Oh, yeah. What are you talking about?

They're a block show. That's how actual shows operate. That's why our show stinks. That can't be true. Oh, you crushed it on there, dude. You're very, very, very good. I'm incredibly proud of you and pumped for you. You look great out there, too, man.

You crushed it. You're doing great. Let's get to it. Did you hear my take about the live golfers thing? I did. I did. I mean, I'm sure we agree on a lot of it. You know, I do have some sources out there,

and there will be a lot of movement after the FedEx playoffs. But, I mean, you said it all. I mean, who wouldn't? I mean, it's common sense, especially for athletes. Of course, they're going to take the hit. People are going to come at them from the public, from all angles. But Apple, Nike, and if any big leagues you do, you go back and it's all messed up. And we care about the human rights and all that other stuff.

We do. That matters, obviously. But if you do that, you got to do it with everything. And I'm just, you know, don't come with the bullshit. I'm not going to fake it. It is what it is at this point. Well, Darius, that's when we started looking into, because anytime I see athletes get attacked,

I honestly believe my first thing is like, ah, there has to be a reason why this happened. I would like to hear what it is. And I think it's strictly because, you know know we've met a lot you know and we happen to be in there experienced it you much more athletic and professional than me but i gotta you know i got a chance to be in like the stories you hear and the amount of commitment it takes to become a fucking professional athlete like never gets talked about it's always just like watch the game this guy stinks oh he's cut fuck him it's like do you know how much of this guy's life he committed for that one play that you said this guy stinks like let alone a guy that has a 10-year career 20-year

career nine-year career whatever the case like i just will always be on the side of an athlete because always all i really know so whenever the fucking people were just killing these live golfers, I was like, Oh, they must be the only people taking money from this place. Right? Like they, there must be,

I was in it. It was when I started looking into it, I'm like, Oh my God. Yeah. Everybody is literally, how is this even a thing that is being discussed right now? And you start,

it's almost like you don't want to know. I think a lot of people like don't want to know, but like that is just a small sample of where it's at it's everywhere d but it is everywhere dude honestly yeah i mean it really is it is what i mean and it is what it is that's that's the it's the athletes like you said we have a short time to get as much money as you can doing your job. And, you know, you don't compare it to, you know, other jobs. Should other jobs be paid more? Yes.

Firefighters, policemen, teachers. Go down the list. Military, yes. But when you're doing something, there is a market for that. And then, you know, people change the market. Some businesses come in and change the market. That's what they've done with the live tour. I mean, you see the planes they're riding you see what you know cam smith how he's

still moving around i forgot which uh golfer was that you had on that kind of laid it out kind of behind the scenes the type of money that they have to come out of their own pocket and then you got to make the cut you got to win tournaments to actually make money and then you got rory and you know tiger and these guys who are you know damn near billionaires are well on their way coming out and speaking from their high horse i mean like that's tough and then some people are like hey you know how much money is enough money it depends situation is situational since some people are good with 10 some people want 100 some people want to build if you're in a position where you can play or you can

Garner that type of wealth By all means you know now some people can say hey, I'm that doesn't sit well with me. I'm cool I'm turning it down and that's cool, too See I don't that's cool. I've no people who retired from the NFL because they didn't like I know people who retired from the NFL because they didn't like what was going on behind the scenes. They didn't like the politics. They didn't like, you know. So, yeah.

Shit. All right. Relax, dude. Relax. That's a lot different. You know what I mean? Okay. All right.

You're good. You're good. No, but the thing about it is I don't even think people understand that they're being hypocritical just immediately saying that. And that graphic, I think, lays that out. You know? Like, if there's – that's my issue. Like, I think – I understand why you're saying what you're saying. And I appreciate what you're saying.

And I understand that we're all trying to get there with the human. Everything you said, human rights and decisions that were made in the past. Disgusting. We're not there. But you just say, well, I'm not doing that. But then you will certainly one million percent watch ABC, ESPN, a Disney movie, order something from Amazon, go get gas from somewhere. Unless you have an electric vehicle, which is, hey, I do. Good on you. If you want to know where that shit is getting mined from.

No, no, no. I'm telling you, you go down, you do any research on anything, it's going to be fucked up at some point. Well, that's what I'm saying. That's just, we live in a country where we're late stage capitalism. Like everything we touch is already fucked up by the time. Unfortunately, that is what it is. I was doing a math last night as I was thinking about this, and it kept me up because I had restless leg syndrome last night. Yeah, real.

You ever heard of this, D-Butt? Never. I think it's a white thing. My legs just completely uncomfortable all night. I had no idea what it was. I've heard other people talk about it but like it was you know I experienced it last night

but I was up all night last night and I was thinking to myself like and I mean there's a chance we just get taken off the Internet for everything that I've said today. You know, there's a chance that that happens. And I just turned down a massive deal. Massive deal. Oh, oh, big.

But I kept my fucking dignity. You know what I mean? Hey, I got a choice to make, man. Boom. This one, not because I was trying to save the world, but because I don't like the tone of the contract. That's right. Okay?

I don't like the tone of the contract. But let's... I was thinking to myself, like, pharmaceuticals are, like, pharmaceuticals have directly killed, like, eight of my friends. You know what I mean? Like, that business has... So i started thinking about that like there's an over prescribed problem we have are we gonna start diving into all of that that has happened like at what point do we stop saying no that's okay and then and this no it's not like i don't you know what i mean

this this whole live thing has kind of forced me's not. Like, I don't, you know what I mean? This whole live thing has kind of forced me into that conversation. I don't like getting outside my world. I put my blinders on. But so I'm learning a lot as we go here. But this whole situation has kind of caused a much broader real conversation that has to take place. And the people that were calling me dumb and an apologist last night, like, maybe they just don't even know how hypocritical they are. Yeah, probably not. Maybe they just don't know because I didn't.

I would say that they don't know. I would say they don't know because, you know, you see it everywhere. You see it on TV, radio, anybody that's got a mic. And half of them are saying this shit, and then behind the scenes in real life, they don't really believe it. So when it's somebody like you and the boys that come on and get in front of the mic and they really express their real thoughts, it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. And that's across the board. So it is what it is.

There was just sheeps lining up in my fucking mentions last night. And that's another one. Same. You know, if you would have just counted them, you would have fell asleep. Turn, turn. And that's another one. Same. Burn. And then walking out. You know, if you would have just counted them, you would have fell asleep. Burn. Try to count the sheep, but the sheep don't die. It's a good song from that.

Macklemore. No, AJF or something like that. OJF, AJF. O-A-R-J. H-A-R. No. H-J-F. H-J-F.

Hey, bars. Old buddies got bars. H-J-F. Let's move on. Deshaun Watson. Anywhere from two to 75 games suspension. Talked to Ian Rappaport yesterday. He said that nobody knows. He said nobody has a clue, unless you're talking directly to Sue Robinson.

Mike Florio this morning had a report that somebody got either briefed by Sue or into Sue's documents or something from trial, and they're saying two to eight games potentially. There's going to be people pissed regardless, right? Yeah. Pro Football Talk's Mike Fleury. The intent of Deshaun Watson to sue over a full season suspension may never come to reality.

The current thinking is that Judge Robinson's punishment will land in the range of two to eight games. People are going to be pissed regardless, but if it's only eight games, I think I'll be surprised. I will be very surprised. I just how do you feel about it all? I wouldn't. Honestly, I don't know what to expect. I honestly don't know what to expect.

I wouldn't be surprised by a four game suspension. I wouldn't be surprised by a 12 game suspension. And I honestly wouldn't be shocked. I probably would be a little shocked if it was no games because if you're not finding you know anything they're doing all this due diligence and it's just hard for me to wrap and me and AB talked about it a bunch on the pod it's just

always been hard for me to wrap my head around the NFL actually you know it being multiple teams coming to Deshaun Washington his camp like hey basically take us here's our package here's our offer and then Deshaun said, his camp, like, hey, basically take us. Here's our package. Here's our offer. And then Deshaun said, nope, you guys are out of running. You guys are out of running.

All right, I'll take 230 guaranteed from the Cleveland Browns without the NFL and the people behind the scenes doing some due diligence and knowing, okay, it's not going to be this extensive of a suspension or the evidence or whatever it is. And then they trade, you know, Baker Mayfield without the suspension coming on, you know, for, you know, not a lot. I would expect somewhere around six games. You feel like the actions of people that should be in the know

are telling that it won't be as long as maybe some people are predicting. Yeah, exactly. And I feel like, you know, the NFL, they're going to do the PR thing. You know, that's what they do. So it's going to be like, hey, we're pushing for a strong suspension. We're pushing for a long suspension. And then Deshaun, the camp has already come out and said, hey, we get suspended for over a year.

We're going to sue with the assistance of the PA. So it's a lot going on. It seems like all the power isue in Rodgers' hand, and I don't know what timeline she's on or if she really cares. Because as football fans, football people, you want it to happen sooner than later, so you know going into the season, all these different type of things. But I don't know if Sue really cares about that.

But I hope justice is served either way. If Deshaun is found guilty for these things, he should be suspended. And if it's the opposite, don't punish a guy just because some shit looks bad. That's an interesting... Or a lot of names, because we've all been around. We've seen some wild shit that sounds much worse than it is. If you shed the light and you open up everybody's closets and what they do behind closed doors with other adults, it may not look great. But so it's going to be it's going to be tricky. But hopefully they make a decision sooner than later.

A lot of accusations. They all sound similar. I mean, it's been a year and a half long PR nightmare. And also there's been a lot of feeling from a lot of people like it seems like although they've been get off with a technicality in court seems like there there's already been people that have said like hey this guy is a predator dude like this is there's been women that are not going to massage deshaun watson because of what happened and there's probably you know who knows what the actual number is what the actual truth is of the whole story we'll never find out. Are you going to view Sue Robinson's, and should we judge the esteemed? The honorable.

The honorable Sue Robinson. Should we view that as whether or not he did something or not trial as well? Is that how they're fighting in there? What are they fighting? Are they fighting precedent? Are they fighting ruling? Are they fighting actual, like he did something wrong? Because the criminal cases got thrown out.

So is it just on the civil? Like, should we view Sue's ruling as Sue saying? I think it's strictly based on the personal conduct policy of the NFL. So it's not like an actual trial took place in there? No. No. Well, but they both deliver cases on how many should be suspended. Yeah.

How many games? So how should we take a rule? This is kind of a mind. You actually, I mean, you made me think about this with the way you said it. Kind of like a civil rule. But with the NFL. Yeah. Yeah.

It's strictly if he violated the terms of the personal conduct policy, which is, I've never dug into it. I don't know how much you know about it. What if the Honorable Sue Robinson says, well, he clearly broke policy for when we found out in court that he boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Right? Like that would be, you know what I mean? Like, is that how it's, I didn't even think about how we should, you know what I mean?

I didn't even think about how we should view that. what I mean? I didn't even think about how we should view that. I'm sure you can't, but how doesn't previous stuff or previous suspensions kind of shape how she's going to? Brady got suspended for four games. If Deshaun gets four games, it's going to be Armageddon. People will go apeshit. Ben Roethlisberger had two situations, right? Yeah.

He got what, six down to four? Yes. Yeah, was it? Six down to four? Yes. Yeah. Was it? Six down to four? Yeah, one case that was settled and one case that never went to court. It was an accusation. If it's not, hey, I think it was.

He settled. I mean, so the Shines, he settled with how many? 20, a 24. The Houston Texans settled for 30. The Texans settled with 30, and only one had came out against them, 29 others, I believe. So, I mean, it's a bunch of, you know, settling also doesn't, you know, emit guilt. Agreed.

At this stage of the game, we all know that, by the way. I think at this stage of life, that is true. It's interesting. Ridley got an indefinite or full year for an eight-leg parlay. Well, it was a bad parlay, too. Yeah, that's why. $1,100. You think they judged his actual decisions in the parlay?

I am so proud. All right, dude. Jacksonville Moneyline. You're fucking rolling the dice, and you're doing this. Get out of here, dude. Can't do it. Connor, your question for D-Butt. Yeah, Darius, as a Patriots fan,

should I be kind of worried that Zach Wilson is dogging his mom's friends, or should I you know just remember that they're just the Jets and I should worry about the Dolphins and the Bills hey they're still the Jets until proven otherwise and that's a young a young core of players that's that's been tasked to kind of turn that franchise around you know Brees Hall Michael Carter Zach Garrett Wilson a bunch of young guys who got to turn around. So I think it'll be a few years before they're really competitive. But Zach Wilson, I mean, those type of stories that come out, that can, depending on how he handles that once he reports to training camp,

that can win over that locker room real quick. Everybody's going to be taking jabs with the rookie skits, and the coach is going to have somebody something to say so if he handles that you know how it seems like based off his social media he will uh we all know he's talented but it's so much more that goes into you know being a good player in the nfl been a good quarterback especially but if he can rally those guys especially being in that new york uh media market it's gonna be interesting to see how it all goes, but I wouldn't be too worried about the Jets if I'm the Patriots.

I honestly, I mean, I became a fan of him. I was like, alright, this guy is not a robot. Because remember, and I said this yesterday, do you remember draft night where he was taking a photo? He looked scared to death. I'm like, this guy is fucked. Going to New York. He's pretty not used to hanging out with these young kids.

Like, what the fuck is this? Like, what do you guys do? This ain't really my crew. I hang out with, you know, a little more mature squad. Are you talking about hanging out with his mom? That's what you're saying. He hangs out with his family, his parents' friends. That's what you're saying?

I like it. I do too, man. You're saying he could have went over that locker room. Like, I think. There's already quotes from teammates that he kind of did. Yeah, he said, we didn't know about's already quotes from teammates that he kind of did. Yeah. He said, we didn't know about Zach. Yeah.

We didn't know he was a superhero. He walked in here, always sat upright and drank his coffee, did what he thought he did. More or less, he's a little bit of a dog. I'll tell you what. Pretty excited to fucking go to battle with that guy. Go ahead, Tony. D-Bud.

D-Bud, last week on Good Morning Football, you said Mitch Trubisky was going to be the MVP of the league. Why do you think that? Well, that was in a big segment show. That was also a blind take. I don't know who wrote that one. But, yeah, it was a Mitch Trubisky dark horse MVP candidate. Do I believe that? No, I don't.

But that did take on a life of its own with Steelers fans in the Twitterverse. But he is a talented guy. You know, you don't get drafted that did take on a life of its own with Steelers fans in the Twitterverse. But he is a talented guy. You know, you don't get drafted number two overall for no reason. And everybody has been talking about it since probably that first year he got drafted over to the Shines, got drafted over to Mahomes. He has made a Pro Bowl. He has made the playoffs. He was with Brian Dayball, you know, out in Buffalo as a backup.

But, you know, still sitting in those meetings, been around Josh Allen. I've been around that offense, seeing how that operation goes. And then you go to a place like Pittsburgh, that's stability. You got talent around. You got Claypool, Deontay, Harris, young offensive line. He can

go on the run. I wouldn't be shocked if Mitch Trubisky has a good year. He already has an MVP under his belt. Ooh. You know, so if he goes out there and shocks the world, I wouldn't be surprised. What's the name of your stadium again?

Fuckin' the Shore, dude. Act sure. The fuck is sure? He can light that motherfucker up. Hell yeah. How do you feel about Hines' catch-up turn and his back on Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, D-Butt? That's bad, man.

That was bad. That was hurt, man. What, Rolling Rock left town, right? Rolling Rock left town? Yeah, moved from La Trobe to Anheuser-Button. That's bad, man. That was hurt, man. What, Rolling Rock left town, right? Rolling Rock left town? Yeah, moved from La Trobe to Anheuser-Busch. I think Yingling left town. Yingling. Left town.

No, that's a – That's Pottsville. Pottsville. South of Minnesota now. And now Hines just moves out. That one was totally wrong. Take our name off the stadium. We don't want to fucking be here.

Unbelievable. They still got to do that renegade, though. That's probably one of the dopest moments in a stadium. We don't want to fucking be here. Unbelievable. They still got to do that renegade though. That's probably one of the dopest moments in a stadium I've experienced as a player. You wait until you hear your renegade down the shore, dude. It's going to be sick. Yeah, dude. The Akershaw renegade is going

Oh, I'm on it Here on my life From the long On up the Shore Akershaw From the long arm of the door. Acro shirt. Sure.

I'm in a hurry. I'm in a hurry. And I know I'm home. Acro shirt. It's not. I'm in a hurry. Acro shirt. And Acro shirt and save the day. That's not what's gonna happen.

That's what D-Buck just predicted. D-Buck, didn't you? I mean, that's kind of what he just pieced together. If Mitch is MVP, they can sing whatever they want. So what's his blind take? You're just reading the teleprompter? Got the highest paid defense, too, over there. Yeah, they spent a lot of money.

Minka Fitzpatrick got a deal. It's great for him. You know, obviously, T.J. Watt kicked his agents out of the way, signed his deal. Cam Hayward was at a celebrity softball game, won by 20. They said all vibes were high in the Pittsburgh Steelers locker room. What if the Pittsburgh Steelers do their thing? Especially Deshaun Watson. Who knows how long he's going to be playing or if he's going to be playing at all.

Jacoby Brissett will be the starter. They've got a good roster. What about the Bengals? They debuted, I guess, a white helmet uniform. It is fucking sick. You know, for the Colts, we had to wear those white Spanx, basically. They debuted, I guess, a white helmet uniform. It is fucking sick. You know, for the Colts, we had to wear those white Spanx, basically. It was just full white tights or a uniform with no color on it or anything.

You remember that? I do. You're in much better shape than I was. If we had to wear those post-Thanksgiving, rough. 4K, rough. I mean, it was a very rough thing. The Bengals have this new uniform. You think they get back?

That looks so sick. Hey, look, I'm not bad against Joe Burrow. Rough. I mean, it was a very rough thing. The Bengals have this new uniform. You think they get back? They invent. That looks so sick. So sick. Hey, look, I'm not betting against Joe Burrow. He's shown us enough at this point. And, you know, how do you handle success? Obviously, nobody, they didn't have a target on their back last year. They just made a Super Bowl run, made a special run last year. First playoff win.

Like, it just did a lot of things. Joe Burrow is the guy that that's the expectation and that's the standard now in cincinnati so and then jamar chase the guy's standing next to him in that picture it's i mean it's hard to look at that dude play football last year and not think like this year he's gonna be a top you know one two guy um in this league and they obviously have that connection from college so um it'll be interesting to see how they handle success from the top down and then uh baltimore you know that it should be a bounce back year for them um probably a contract year for lamar a lot of people getting healthy on defense they've drafted tremendous the last couple years and john harbaugh that's you know they have

a great culture they're great winning culture there in baltimore so this is going to be you know afc north you know top tier AFC North football. Hey, it's hot in the kitchen. Mike Tomlin said that in the AFC North. That's kind of how it always is. It's top football. The weather will happen for open domes, open stadiums. It's beautiful to watch.

You're down in South Florida, right? Yep. What was that? I need money grill. You guys, is that what was going on with that with Lamar? I need money. That's from the Ha with that with Lamar? I need money. That's from the Ha Ha movie. I know y'all watch that movie.

Absolutely. He need that, though. I mean, 230 in the same division? He hasn't played in what, two years? Yeah, I need that. Does he have an MVP? I think he removed his profile picture. He has to stay all together.

He did on IG, and he removed the I need money one, too. Well, if you study high and take tests high, you get high scores. Shout out to Ivory. Good luck to Lamar. Go get it, Lamar. Hey, thank you for joining us, D-Butt. Appreciate the hell out of you, man. Appreciate you for having me, man. Don't use anything that has money from bad

places right now. Good luck, pal. Shit. Yep, you're fucked. See that hat too? Problematic. Old school Florida Marlins hat.. See that hat, too. Problematic. That's a little Florida Marlins. Oh, my. Sam should be pumped, though. Yeah, he would be.

I didn't know you were a Marlins fan. Just because you're in the area, you like the color? No, I'm an NE South Florida team. Marlins, Panthers, Dolphins, Heat. Panthers, look at that. Hey, shout out to the Panthers getting a little shout out. Yeah, Miami FC, a shout out. Yeah, what about David Beckham and Methy coming to town?

That's going to be big for Miami. There's a lot of soccer fans down here. We got a lot of soccer fans down here. So that would be huge for Miami and that whole league. But I hate to see Stanton doing what he's doing up there in New York in those pinstripes, knowing we just let him get up out here. I don't have any of your character. Last night, he's not even the part owner York in those pinstripes. Knowing we just let him get up out here. I don't have any of your pirates. Last night, he's not even the part owner of the Marlins anymore, man.

They broke up our team every time we wore the War Series. Oh, jeez. You could be from Pittsburgh with the Pirates. It's even worse. Ladies and gentlemen, Darius Butler. Thank you, buddy. Thank you, buddy. Let's Ride has rode again into the hour introductions

for the dumbest show on the internet and on the radio. Currently for another at least 42 days. Okay. It's a long time. It is a long time. Yeah. How many days until NFL football starts? 51 days.

Here we go. Tomorrow we are just 50 days away from the NFL kicking off on that glorious Thursday night in Los Angeles. Matthew Stafford, Sean McVay, and the boys play host to the Kansas City. Buffalo Bills. Buffalo Bills. San Diego doesn't have a team anymore. Everybody needs to have a little bit more respect.

It's the LA Chargers. That's a fucking team that we are big fans of, by the way. We can't wait for that. Until then, we will just continue to talk about sports nonsense. There's a lot to chat about in this hour, too, and I'm excited to do it alongside Ty Shmeda, who's a new father. Thank you. Tone Diggs, one half of the hammer.

Cowboys. How's betting going? We did well last time. We had Soto last night. That's a win, right? Plus what? Plus 50 when I got it. 500. I think it got down to 450. Hey, you said yesterday. Yes, that's a win, right? Yeah, that's a win. What were the odds? Plus what? Plus 50 when I got it. 500. I think it got down to 450. Hey, you said yesterday, Ty, that's a young man's game, the home run derby. Yeah.

It's a lot of hacking. It's heavy hacking. And it's a lot of at-bats. And the finals was Soto's 23 and the other guy, Julio Rodriguez, a rookie. He is good. And he looked unbelievable in the first round. He had 63 or whatever in the first two rounds. Yeah.

Unbelievable. And he was hitting bombs. Just couldn't make it. The guy wasn't in shape enough. Couldn't make it to the final round. He had 63 or whatever in the first two rounds. Yeah. Unbelievable. And he was hitting bombs. Just couldn't make it. The guy wasn't in shape enough. Couldn't make it to the final round. He only had an 18 or something like that. Young blood. Not experienced enough.

I think we're going to say on this show, although we are not medical experts, I feel like Polar Bear hurt himself in the first. To be determined. Yeah. It's a tweak for sure. I think so. Didn't want to talk about it because the all-star people know that if they talk about that, they'll continue to peddle the narrative that this is a bad idea for guys to do.

Right. Well, and isn't it like a thing in baseball? If you do it, you kind of fuck up your swing. Shohei Otani last year, right? Yeah. Shohei Otani was a game-changer, game-changer, game-changer. Does the Home Run Derby, which we loved watching him do it. And then for the next month, he was trying to figure it all out.

Yeah. A lot of guys say that if you compete in the Home Run Derby, at least the next next month and a half after the all-star break guys will go into like a massive slump and by the way i'm not we this has not been confirmed that pete alonzo has done anything to his back much different performance this year than years past and also he's going against uh animals but he's getting older as well so maybe that was the case but there was a couple awkward and at first just as you know i feel like i've seen that move before by people stretching out like oh okay there's a little and then that was like maybe a minute and a half left too so and he got it through yeah he got it through the thing and then the second round he's

vastly different right i mean he was a much different and i'm not saying that happened to him but because there is a chance that that happens the home run derby has changed but i think it will always be successful to watch i enjoyed the fuck out of that yeah it was awesome it's always incredibly entertaining but to your point too if he is hurt like it will get very loud because the mets are actually very good this year he's won it two years in a row so it's really like i'm not saying we do not know no no no idea we don't know shit about fuck when it comes to baseball i'm just talking strictly about a move he made like three at-bats in a row. I'm like, that looks like a guy that's kind of working through something.

Now, it might have been just a little... Stiffness. Anybody got right through it because he is a stallion. We saw him doing a hex, hex squats or whatever the fuck it is. But that just seems like, as I was watching it with how hard they were swinging, I thought the pitchers have to be so nervous. They have to be shitting their pants, these 90-year-olds, with a million dollars on their shoulders.

And in the last round, too, like, hey, we need to fucking ball high. We need to ball high. You get a couple that start breaking out of the strike zone, everybody in that stadium and watching goes, this fucking guy didn't give a million dollars, didn't even give him a chance. That's what I think the whole time. And then, like, man, those are some vicious.

Those are some vicious hacks happening just for our entertainment and the the adrenaline keeps they're getting like hyped up to swing harder and harder and harder it's like holy fuck that's in the middle of the season the only problem with last night's derby i think now it's a iconic stadium but is the stadium because it's it's really like just one level like last year it was in cores and like it's the people were hitting the upper deck or if you go to san francisco or pittsburgh you're hitting in the water or boston you're hitting over the green bonds or like that was just kind of like a normal stadium and it doesn't give you the effect of i think of how far they're actually hitting the fucking yeah because over 440 didn't feel it felt like a basic hit yeah a lot of the four they're like oh that was 480 yards or whatever

and it was like it hit that net that they had in the back center, or 480 feet, it's like, it didn't look as good as leaving a fucking stadium. Yeah, right. But it still was awesome. Yeah. A lot of people are commenting about the announcers and ESPN missing a couple home runs. I was thinking the same thing while I was watching it.

Yeah. But there has to be, it's not ESPN deciding how many home runs, right? It's somebody else. It shouldn't be. Yeah, no. And it's not on the announcers to keep track. Don't they have umps out there?

They do. Yeah. Because they said Schwarbs got fucked. Right. Yeah, they missed one it's not on the announcers to keep track. Don't they have umps out there? They do. Yeah. Because they said Schwartz got fucked. Right. Yeah, they missed one, and he would have tied Pujols, and they would have went into a swing off or whatever. People are blaming ESPN. There's no way ESPN's handling it.

No, I doubt it. I saw someone bet a lot of money on Schwartz to beat Pujols in the first matchup. So I assume that person is pretty upset. That's the person that's loud about it. I'm watching the number. Because there was a couple times I'd watch the swing, but I wouldn't watch the little thing, but I'd look at the count.

And they get in those groups. I'm like, that's a home run. Gotta be. You can tell. And then the number wouldn't change. I'm like, oh, I guess it didn't make it. Then I started looking. And to your point,

there was a lot of... Ubers. I thought every ball... Oh, yeah. Pools especially. Is it the balls? It's this year's balls, right? Remember last year's balls were different.

Yeah, but I think for the derby, they always use some sort of juice balls. They, yeah. Pools, especially. It's this year's balls, right? Remember last year's balls were different. Yeah, but I think for the Derby, they always use some sort of juice balls. They want guys. Money balls are harder to hit. The gold balls. Yeah, the gold balls. That'd be tough to watch, I think, right? Oh, yeah. Join us now as a man who should be in a home run Derby.

Gonna try to put him in a long drive contest. If those things still exist, if they survived, we would like to enter a big, dumb animal from Ohio. He's got a good brain, obviously, for sports, but I would assume everything else, nobody's going to try to put him in a long drive contest. If those things still exist, if they survived, we would like to enter a big dumb animal from Ohio. He's got a good brain, obviously, for sports, but I would assume everything else, nobody's going to him for advice, but they should because we got a chance to spend some days with him in Tahoe. He's actually kind of charming. Funny.

How's it brain? Certainly an animal, though. Nonetheless, won a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup champion, a COVID survivor, a private plane survivor, and a man that got to chug Budweiser out of Lourdes just a few days ago because his brother-in-law,

not just Brady Quinn, his brother-in-law, his other brother-in-law, Jack Johnson, is now Stanley Cup champion. Ladies and gentlemen, a man who is the face of Ohio, A.J. Haas. Hey, A.J, what's going on? Did you see High Horse in earlier, pal? I did.

I actually, you know, I've always been a fan of that segment when you get up there on your high horse. Now you're actually kind of hitting the horse a few times and twirling around, so I think it's kind of taken on a life of its own. Well, you know, we're actually putting together a logo for it. It's a whole thing. I'm not sure how many people can stand on a chair.

Because I do it at like WWE and Michael Cole goes, you should fall every time you do it. I'm like, I'm actually pretty comfortable on this thing. During this high horsing segment, I almost fell in the middle of it. God damn, I thought of all the golf media in the middle of my high horsing segment.

Just dancing on my dead horse grave when I did that. So then I had to open the legs up a little bit more. And then I started really fucking riding that horse towards the end. So thank you. I felt good about it. It will be something that sticks around because I believe people are on their high horse all the fucking time, probably until the end of days. AJ, you know what I mean? Yeah, that's kind of where we're at.

You know, everyone wants to join a team so if you join a team even if whether you believe your certain opinions or not like if you want to join a team it's pretty easy to know which side like where you want to take on a certain subject and i think hey who do i want to be whose side do i want to be on okay i'll take that opinion i feel like some people do that what are you saying bah is that what you're saying you You're saying bah? No, I'm not even saying that. I'm not even saying they're sheep. I'm saying everybody loves to be on a team, man.

That's why cults are a thing. Everyone wants to be a part of something, so people want to feel like they're a part of something. I watched that Unexplained with William Shatner. Big Bill Shatner show. The Unexplained. That motherfucker deserves an Oscar for hosting that show. And I know that's

an emmy i guess would be because it's a series could be that was what is the silver screen is the movie that was silver screen acting while hosting that show that's bill shatner but i talked he talked about colts there's one about colts and why people do it and basically everything you just said there uh the nexium thing is wild that that was happening so recently and was that the hollywood one where he was branding the girls? Yeah, right above their left hips. Keith something was putting his brands on them. I watched an HBO one on that one.

That was intense. Hey, they were like pretty successful people going in there and buying in. That's wild that that has happened very recently. I think it was only like within the last decade or two. That's always something I would assume just from the past but i guess cults are everywhere and now um is it tribalism where people want to kind of link up together and social media be able to do that i think so yeah and i think you the confirmation bias also you know changes things because people don't even want to hear anything from the other side so that all coming together i think humans

are basically set up to be fucked you know like think humans are basically set up to be fucked. You know? Like you're kind of set up to be fucked. Also, when it's through your phone or on social media, it's a lot easier, I guess, to have a strong take or to have something. It's a lot easier than doing something face-to-face. Oh, you're talking about people... Not even talking trash.

Not saying, I'm going to say, oh, you're not even jock. You're not jock. Not that. They wouldn't do that to your face. I'm just saying, like, opinions. It's a lot easier to do it through your phone. A lot easier for people to tell anybody their feelings through their phone, probably.

Unit and the boys out there, Lake Tahoe, there was one drive where they go, he's not jock. It was like four people screaming it at the, do you remember that? That was awesome. That was fucking awesome. Yeah. It was a good time. What I was going to say, though, is not the negative thing. What do the Catholics, right?

You go and tell the priest, and there's behind the screen, and then there's face-to-face, and nobody ever does the face-to-face. Everybody's behind the screen whenever they're saying something terrible. Yeah, you'd probably prefer to go behind the screen. That's kind of what you're saying about the whole, like, it's pretty simple. It's easier. Yeah, it's much easier, right? It's not as personal, I feel like.

So people are more apt to do it. I was called some terrible things last night because of me being pumped about guys getting $120, $100 million and stuff like that. Do the people, okay, people are getting mad at you. Do you think they actually know your real opinion on this whole matter? Bah! Bah! Bah! That's what I think.

Literally, that's all I could think the entire time. I'm like, you fucking shit. We need to have brando shambly on he's a guy that like a lot of the golfers get in arguments with and they have strong opinions he has very strong opinions i wonder what he would think of you going on your high horse well i don't know i don't know who this man is uh his golf channel dude sounds awesome i appreciate how good he is if he's debating with people but all i care about is that it's not just athletes being attacked. Like, I just don't think that's fair at all. And athletes, for a long time, have never had a voice because their business is handled by other people normally.

And platforms are picking and choosing who gets to do it. Now, more than ever, athletes are able to talk and do whatever the fuck they want because social media is kind of taking down all that and i just don't appreciate that like i just never will never will it's whatever the case because i've only been friends and around athletes i think my entire life so it's just like how i feel i think and i've gotten very lucky to play different sports and meet people from vastly different backgrounds i played overseas and roomed with guys who were muslim whenever i was like 13 and watched them do the five prayers and no idea that that was there was nobody who was muslim in plum and then i come back from a trip i'm like oh

i just met and experienced something it was vastly different then i get in the football world and i'm fucking with god i'm literally chatting at a pretty you know high level okay you know pretty high level with people from compton in south florida it's like i've been very lucky to meet a mirage of human beings from so many different backgrounds and i'm very fortunate from it but it's all because of athletics and it's all athletes. So I think I respect the grind a lot more for athletes from all backgrounds than most people would chat about it. And you too, AJ.

And we talked to Darius about this. I just think it's a different time. I will not stand for athletes being attacked when nobody else is, AJ. I can't do it. I won't do it. And I haven't done it. And that's just how it is, AJ. And I think that's why I had to hop up on this fucking horse and talk to the people on the Twitter last night.

I mean, I get it. Like, if you're going to start this, then wouldn't you have to go after everybody and everyone that has questionable money behind whatever they are in? But, I mean, yeah, a different time, whatever. I don't know. I just always wonder what made this. We understand Saudi Arabia and the horrendous things they have done, but what made this the situation where everybody piled on the players? Oh, because.

Was it Phil? Like, did Phil start? If Phil didn't have his whole gaffe, would this be as big a thing? I think you're right. Well, maybe. That's maybe the case. I just thought it was the PGA Tour just controlled. Probably that.

Yeah. That's a big part of it. We got to bury these guys. guys because remember there was a what back in the day they talked about the pga going to washington and lobbying against some yes something yeah yeah it gets the first one yeah the antitrust thing so it's i think i maybe you're understood right i shouldn't have thought i should have thought of that but also i just assumed it was a pga being like hey remember and like sending emails hey remember the people that cover the pga tour i don't know how many media members they have they

they need the tour to be thriving as well so why are they going to write any like hey this live tour is great like when they're writing on the pga tour and they see all these stars leaving so they're so they're getting paid by the pga tour you're saying no but they cover the pga tour if there's not a pga tour where do they work no but well live could the PGA Tour, you're saying? No, but they cover the PGA Tour. If there's not a PGA Tour, where do they work? No, but, well, Live could be another golf option. But the PGA people... These people aren't going to go to Live, though. If they're not going to write about Live, they're going to go to Live.

I'm sure they won't. Yeah. I'm sure they won't. I'm just saying, like, there's a lot of different... Like, nothing is black and white. There's nuance. There's things, like, to everything. Did you hear about the PGA Tour game?

No. It's going to be awesome. Oh, yeah. Oh, man, it's coming out. It's a new one. It's called Road to the Masters. It's fucking awesome. everything. Did you hear about the PGA Tour game? No. It's going to be awesome. Oh, yeah. Oh, man. It's coming out. It's a new one. It's called Road to the Masters. It's fucking awesome.

Sweet. So popular. EA Sports. It's in the game. It's, you know, Road to Masters. They got clean money, right? Wow. That's the thing, actually, because that's the problem.

You know what I mean? So that would mean that's pga tour directly right worked with let alone the 23 other sponsors that have been tied yes to you know that they literally just made that deal and 1.1 billion is a lot more than like 90 million and 100 yeah that's a lot more but they did we did learn that they they that money, and EA Sports was only using it in a couple different games and not in marketing or anything else. It was just in some places. They had the money tagged.

Earmarked, if you will. Yeah, they had that. Did Liv earmark their money so it's okay? Well, no, because it's one place. It's just one. Yeah, these companies that get this money from the same place, they all have it. And none of it goes into marketing.

No. None of it. Just game sales. Does that make it okay? Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why. That's why it's completely okay. You know?

And that's... I'm thankful they did that. Yeah, me too. Rainy day fun. Thank you. Thank you, guys. Makes sense why they won't fucking fix Madden now, too. Why is that?

Oh, because they can't dive into the money that was given to their company Thank you guys Makes sense They won't fucking fix Madden now too Why is that? Because they can't dive into the money That was given to their company To up their valuation And up everything And make their things better To sell more To make more money off of people Americans

Americans Make more money off Americans But they can't dive into that investment Right? They can't Which is interesting Because now PGA Tour is saying You know

We'll just make the next great game Yeah but PGA Tour said Don't use But don Tour said don't use. But don't, yeah. Can't use. Don't look. And then the other 23 sponsors that they have that potentially any of that money filtered through, like they can't. They said.

Don't touch it. Hey, this game they just made, they just made a deal. Did the game come out yet? No, it comes out in 2023. Yeah. Okay, so they have time to take away any of the players they've already built that went to live because they're not in the game right now. Well, you canceled the deal. Oh, yeah, of course, right? Oh, so, yeah, there's not going to take away any of the players they've already built that went to live because they're not in the game right now. Well, you can cancel the deal. Oh, yeah, of course, right?

Oh, so, yeah, there's not going to be a game? No. Wow. Sorry. It's already in development. No. They paid Augusta. Hey, the game's going to be awesome.

Can't do it. They paid Augusta a lot of money. What are you, these terrible people? Look, I'm playing GTA. Wait, Augusta took money? Augusta took money? I believe so. That's why I wasn't in the game for so long.

Oh, shit. Because there was a very exclusive, hey, no, like this is. Because in the other games, it was the Open Championship and the PGA Championship. But the only major they didn't have was the Masters. God, dude, what can we do? I say wearing my Rolex official sponsor, the Saudi Golf League, and my Nike hat that has super squeaky clean background. Drinking my Starbucks with an iPhone in my left pocket on the desk right here. Nike shoes.

What can it? Got some Air Forces on. Got a lot of those. Sweet Jesus. Well, and I think Boeing made Air Force One, and I think Boeing also. Big company. Boeing did not make Air Force One.

I don't want to, you know, be the bearer of bad news, but the new sponsor of the NFL is Nike. Not the shoe. I'm talking about the plane. Oh, you're talking about Air Force One, the president? Yeah, and you're wearing Air Force Ones. Is a Boeing plane? I think so.

No way. You can look it up. This is disgusting. We got to move. Yeah. Got to move. Yeah, Russia. Oh, no. What's your problem what what is your

at this point who knows where you can go well I certainly know that's not you can't go to South America can you even go to Switzerland now what do you mean I don't know they probably got their hands in some I bet there are a lot of banks in Switzerland banks over there they're saving their money they're offering money for people to evade

taxes and do other stuff and keep their money and continue to do. Uh-huh. Man, we're fucked, dude. That's right. All right, that's the show, I guess. We could go to Antarctica. See you guys never.

What's that? We could go to Antarctica. I don't know if you want to go there. Well. It's rough. It's a tough place to live. What? I don't know if anybody lives there Except for maybe there's

Isn't there a whole Antarctic to the center of the earth? That's the North Pole, Tony That's the North Pole It's the South Pole There's something Antarctica's south, isn't it? Yeah, Antarctica There's about 50 countries in there

There's a lot of people in there Yeah And penguins Can't go there This sucks, dude Man Okay, where's this? Is that lead?

Oh Oh, I got it. I got it. Just buy a yacht. You just have to live on a yacht. International waters. International waters. Maritime building. Is that going to be electric?

Because what? Am I dumping oil into the fucking ocean then? You could be a space pirate. Yeah, we could build robots to row the boat. Sailing yacht. All those are raised sales. Just need a new season.. Sailing yacht. All those raise sales. Just need a new season. Let's move on.

Who makes those sails? We do. We knit them with our hands. From what fabric? Yeah, where you get the fabric. What fabric? We will skin them from sheep. The East Indies?

Sheep? Wool. Yeah, wool sails. Keep us warm. In case we need a blanket. I'll tell you what the vegans are. It'll be sale slash blanket. Boom.

The vegans aren't going to be happy with that. We're not killing them. We're shaving. But what do we use to shave? Can't use anything really with our hands. You have to bite it out with your teeth. Hands and teeth. Hands and teeth.

All right. Now we're good. Fuck the hat. No more pencil. Take your watch off. Watch off. I am so sorry. Fuck the hat. No more pencil. Take your watch off. Watch off. I am so sorry. Where's that beater made?

Oh, no. This thing was made. How about that chain, too? People are very happy making all of these things. That thing was made in Italy. I looked it up. That's fine. That's fine.

That pinky ring. I saw it. I saw a picture of it in Saudi Arabia. Yeah, because they... Boom! That pinky ring, I saw it. I saw a picture of it in Saudi Arabia. Nah, not this one. Different one. This one was... I made it myself. Are we going to make the boat out of wood?

Nice. Because we can't add the deforestation. Can you make me one? Fuck! No, we'll make it out of plastic from the island of plastic in the Pacific Ocean. So we're taking plastic out of the ocean to create our boat. Boom. Because it's already out there.

So we're using recycled plastic that other fucking terrible people have used before. They were disgusting. Don't look into some of the deals that some of these recycling companies have put in there. No, no. Don't you. Nick, what is real? You take metal from old railroads that aren't used anymore and build a boat out of that. And that came straight from Pittsburgh, so let's go.

Boom. Boom. Just like Heinz. Yeah. You can use the old Heinz ketchup bottle. Yeah, hollow that out and fucking. Yeah. Yeah, I'll be the dewey in the back.

Oh, yeah. And it will kick. We won't have an engine. No. We will kick it together in an hourly time frame. Yes. Which will be our daily workout and our safest and most green option of traveling around the ocean. Do you have any idea how many migrant workers died to lay that railroad track?

He's right. Yeah, but they're dead already. So fuck it. Well, that's going against everything we are currently doing. No, no, no, no. We're just trying to be better for the future. No, literally what you just said. That was thousands of years ago.

We can't worry about those people. Well, that happened. Thousands of years ago. Laying the railroads? 200 years. What do you think the local voters did? It isn't years. We're talking about internet years.

Who was it? Carnegie? No. Yeah, it was the year 49. Andrew Carnegie, one of the greatest Americans of all time. Yeah. Where's he from? Fucking Pittsburgh.

Why? Yeah, well, where's his ancestors from? Fucking London town. Germany? Something like that? He's from London? Probably. Oh, well, you know what they did.

Oh, my God. Can we even drink tea anymore? No. No. No way. Absolutely not. Since the Boston Massacre, we haven't been able to. Listen, we got to move on. Kings and Queens never did anything wrong.

They didn't kill anybody. It's from Scotland. Is it from Scotland? The sun never set on the British Empire. Tell me about it. Do you know what that means? I don't want to have to walk through it. They're still robbing India. That's what that means.

Let's move on. The dumbest thing, though, is that with everything that you have said, you are completely against all of what has happened in Saudi Arabia and what they have done, just like everybody else. But it's not the same. It doesn't matter.

It doesn't have to be tied together. You're saying, like, yeah, just why the athletes? Why the athletes? I don't know. I guess why the hypocrisy? But that question, that will go on forever. Why the athletes? This is just like when Notre Dame stormed a field, same exact weekend as.

Yep, yep. You know, and the sports athletes were – the sports fans were the fucking dumb ones who were trying to kill everybody. And it was like, that is nothing compared to the hundreds of thousands of people that are meeting up in cities on either coast right now. And I understand that sports are just dumb and everything, but I'm tired of sports people being attacked. Speaking of sports, let's move along. Fred Warner did, I think Aaron Rodgers called him the best inside linebacker in the NFL. Correct.

Then Darius Leonard and Aaron Rodgers had a little bit of a tiff because of said. Then Darius and Aaron chatted about it, talked about it. And Aaron talked about how he had trained with Fred Warner, had seen Fred Warner's development. Absolute superstar, Fred Warner. Says, hey, you know what? Trey Lance is ready for this leadership role that he's about to get. Fred Warner on Trey Lance leading 49ers. He's ready for it.

This is from around the NFL. Everything from a teammate of Trey Lance has been positive. That is my first read on whether or not a guy is going to be a guy. Now, they've seen him in practice all year. They've seen him handle himself in meetings. They've seen him around the building. They've seen him working for Jimmy G as his backup quarterback. They know more about this guy than anybody else.

In every single one of them, they said nothing but glowing and very positive things. George Kittle came on the show and was like, yeah, I'm bringing him out to tight end. You actually, this fucking guy is awesome. I love him. Fred Warner's like, he's ready to be a leader. Okay, he's quarterback in the NFL. He's going to have to do it. He's a little bit younger, but you're automatically thrusted into that role as quarterback. Got to see

Jimmy G do it before. I'm very excited for the Trey Lance era and for the 49ers, AJ Hawk. Yeah, I am too, and obviously the number one source you can go to to ask if this dude is ready are guys that are on the team, that have seen him in practice, seen him, how he handles himself in the locker room, what kind of leader he is, like the presence he has,

but at the same time, what are they going to say to the media when you're asked about your guy who's going to be your starting quarterback? You're not, I think, I don't have any inside sources there or whatever. I think Trey Lance hopefully is a stud, but I don't think we know. And these players, I think that what you can take from it is, yeah, they feel comfortable with him leading the team and that feels good. Now, is he successful? Who knows?

Let's see. That is such a real thing but i think guys dance around it you know like yeah they weren't yeah we didn't see any guy i haven't seen any guys at least dance around the question really and like yeah just try to try to give something they feel is right they seem they seem very genuine in what they're saying and he was with josh allen right at tight end yeah and kiddo said i see a lot of josh allen he's big he's athletic it doesn't have a lot of football in him, right? Out of Minnesota, went to Dakota.

His ceiling, everybody talks about, this guy's ceiling is, we are nowhere near how good he can become. With Shanahan there, watching Jimmy, I talk about it a lot. I wish Andrew Luck could have watched Peyton Manning for one year. Not possible with contracts and the way it all set out and the way it turned out, but I do wish that Andrew could have seen Peyton Manning because he would have got a master's degree in how to be a quarterback

quick. Boom. That's all you really need. Trey getting to watch Jimmy G for a year operate, I think that is a big advantage. Getting a chance to learn from Shanahan, Jimmy G, and everybody in the offense. It's kind of being built around him right now too. It feels like Trey's going to go on G, and everybody in the offense. It's kind of being built around him right now, too. It feels like Trey's going to go on a fucking

and they got a team. They got a squad. The Niners are just one of those teams where it feels like he's going to be supported. Granted, if you're a quarterback, it's different, but I feel like when you see how good the team around you is, he knows he doesn't have to do as

much as a guy like Zach Wilson who, when he's starting, it's like they don't really have the team around you is, he knows he doesn't have to do as much as like a guy like Zach Wilson, who when he's starting and it's like, they don't really have the team around him. He probably feels like he has to do much more. Like Trey Lance just needs to kind of show development. Like they're good enough where if he isn't, you know, an MVP candidate this year, like there's still a very good chance. They're going to make the playoffs.

Like I think he's in a very good position to succeed. To your point, going to make the playoffs like i think he's in a very good position to succeed to your point he started one season and 16 games in 2019 in college 2020 they only played that one showcase game or whatever it was because of covid and then he got drafted so his i mean that's quite a roll of the dice by the way they trade the entire future for the third pick overall and when everybody thought it was mac jones it just had the greatest college football season in the history of college football with Sarkeesian's offense.

Mac Jones is going to be a guy. That is quite a roll of the dice, and I have faith in Lynch and Shanahan, but that is not a lot of games. But the boys love him. Seems like the boys fucking love him. Well, we're going to know before the season because Jimmy G is still under contract.

It's not like he's a free agent and they're completely done with that situation. Hey, Jay, what are they doing with him? They're cutting him? You think they're cutting Jimmy G? I mean, if they can't trade for him, they have to cut him, don't they? No one's going to take the contract on after that. 20-what, two?

Yeah, I think 22, 25 after his shoulder surgery. He's been injured, what, two of the last three years. Tell the Browns to sign him, man. Yeah, but he would be a per for two games, yeah. We'll see, yeah. Is that the rumor? Ian told us yesterday, don't listen to anybody that says anything. But then Florio, who has super good connections, yeah. We'll see. Yeah, is that the rumor? Ian told us yesterday, don't listen to anybody that says anything. But then Florio, who has super good connections, legit, says, hey, somebody went through her.

Because that's the only way we'd be able to know. Florio, very locked in in the lawyer world. Lawyer world. Everybody is just fucking throwing up. And my source told me seven games. And then another one. Anonymous source. Twelve games this fucking guy.

And then somebody came out one time. Remember Ian was talking about it. No suspension, maybe it's fine. Fine. What if that happens? Holy fuck. People are going to be... The place will burn.

Hey, we talked to Darius about this. We talked to Darius. Are we taking Sue's ruling as guilt or not guilt? How are we taking it? I don't know. I haven't thought of it that way, really. Me neither.

It fucked me up in the first hour. Because you don't have to be guilty to be charged, to be suspended by the NFL, though. It's just if they feel you violated whatever. What is it? The code of conduct? Personal conduct policy. Yeah, the personal conduct policy,

which we all signed at 7,000 pages long, I think. Do you remember that thing? Do you remember that? Oh, yeah. You signed this. I was told that a couple of times. You signed this right here. Remember this?

Where was that picture posted? Where did you take that picture at? In the equipment room. What's this say? No photos to be posted from a football room. I was in an equipment room. Is the equipment room a football room? I don't know. Is it in there? You tell me.

Was there an asterisk in there or not? Imagine dealing with me, by the way. That'd be a fucking nightmare. Can you imagine? That would be exhausting. Absolutely. It's a good thing, though. It's two pages of that thing being turned to get to that thing and then show to me

is this what you signed? Also, thinking about it now, about her ruling, That's two pages of that thing being turned to get to that thing and then show to me, is this what you signed? I don't know. I don't also, thinking about it now, about her ruling, I would imagine the majority of people have already made up their mind whether he's guilty or not. And what she says doesn't change their opinion. What if the Honorable Judge Sue Robinson says, in accordance to the personal conduct policy of the NFL, clause 4027, clause 5, clause 6. I have ruled Deshaun Watson is broke by doing, boom.

What if she lays out through trial? I hope it is. Don't you think, well, is it possible that she would do a presser, that she'd answer questions about why she had this ruling? No way, right? No.

She just tells Roger. Yeah, she reports to Roger. Well, they explain, though, why. If he does, let's say he gets, hypothetically, he gets eight games. Is she going to explain what exactly went wrong to give him these eight games? No. Well, that's what I'm saying. And then is that when we.

They don't get in detail, though, do they? Like when they talk about it. What if she comes out and says, I've decided zero games because every. Like, what if Deshaun gets completely cleared by this? I mean, yeah, that's a possibility, right? And they lay out, like, we talked to boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And they've done more investigating right than all of us. We can assume that.

I sure hope so. We hope. Yeah. We fucking hope so. We hope that's the case. But if that comes out, does that change anybody's mind? Probably not. No, I hope that's the case. But if that comes out, does that change anybody's mind? Probably not. No, I think that's already made up.

We talked about this before, like long ago with the Big Ben thing. Like people who thought terribly about Big Ben as soon as he was done. Yeah, but we're racist because we didn't cover the Big Ben thing the same way we're covering the Sean Watson thing. Yeah, that was tough. We should have thought of that in 2009, whenever the hell that was. 2013, I think, or 2012. I was punting the fuck out of balls at that point. I think that was the first year I really knew how to punt.

Connor was tackling A.J. Dillon in his seventh year of high school. Yeah, I was in my second high school at that point. Were you guys tagged? He ran over a mascot. I didn't know if anybody else saw that. I didn't see that. Wait, what? I didn't like that.

What happened? Who did, A.J.? Yeah, A.J., he ran over a mascot. You didn't like it, Kai? No. That guy knows it was coming? Why are you being ball humbug? Bingo.

That is not what that fucking mascot signed up for. That guy had no idea. He probably broke two, three of his ribs. He lost his head? Everyone, ha, ha, ha. Look how funny this is. I wanted to reach out to that guy. Dude, are you okay?

There's no way. Did you and Quadzilla talk about that? Because we had a guy that's on the talk table of our show. That was potentially supposed to happen. Did you know that was going to happen? He jumped. He literally jumped perfectly, though. It looked like you couldn't see out his mascot head.

And that all of a sudden he was kind of just looking around. Was that poopies? Was that poopies? His head popped off. There's no way he wanted his head to pop off. That's like a mascot's biggest fear. Can't have it's no way he wanted his head to pop off. That's like a mascot's biggest fear. Can't have it. He might have split his head open on the path.

It was a nasty shot. It was very, yeah. Terrible whiplash. But also, follow up, that's not AJ's fault that the fucking rinky dink mascot head won't stick on. If they agreed, like, hey, I'm going to go. Yeah. And maybe they did, but I have a tough time believing that guy knew what he was signing up for.

He's used to running around the fucking outfield and tripping and letting the hot dog run around and not having a fucking 265 pound No, and you know what? If he did want that gas, then that guy's a moron. Well, that's what...

I don't think that guy had any idea. He may have won it, though. Yes, I think he did. He may have won it, but he didn't fully understand the force until it happened. He didn't know. He didn't respect it. I don't think he respected what could potentially kill him. He probably thought, like, hey, I got this mascot

deal on. I'm good. I got a little bit of patty. And all of a sudden, oh, wait, whiplash. Oh, the back of my head hit the ground. I'm knocked out. I'm concussed. He wakes up. He's like, what in the world is happening? But we... If he's awake. AJ Dillon, good guy, right? Oh, yeah.

It's not his fault. Noted good guy. I would assume he's not just fucking just running hard. Just running hard. Guy we know is one way. Fucking guy wanted to have a drill. What do you want?

Through the whistle. Through the whistle. Don't go full speed. You might get hurt. I mean, coming from the guy who truck-sticked that dude at the Golf Tournament every single year for 10 years in a row. Yeah, he was there. We both.

He's Don Batista. Yeah. He is jacked. He is jacked. We shook hands beforehand, though, and said, are you sure, man? Are you sure? Every time. And I don't know.

A.J. Dillon, maybe he did have that with the mascot. Did you? I hope so. I assume he did. A.J. Dillon, good guy. Just seeing him giving a hello to people that are taking a tour of Lamb. Yeah, well, he had to do that after he murdered somebody in that baseball. He's been reading a book club.

You know how much good shit is in this book club? He's a good guy. You think he read Fingerprint of the Gods and isn't a good guy? I mean. You think he read this fucking book that was actually in a book club last season and he's not a good guy? Did Aaron travel with those books, by the way? Huh? Did he travel with those books by the way huh did he travel with the books yeah the book club books yeah there's a bunch of books yeah he had the daily

stock he was reading every morning big satchel of books that he carries around with him nice tote bag you're telling me that aj dylan read page 367 here and where clearly maybe 370 actually. Okay. The terrible destruction continued unabated for a long period. Then at last, rah, intervened to save the lives of a remnant, the ancestors of present

humanity. You're telling me he read that and you think he's just lining up to fucking smoke a mascot without the mascot knowing? I don't think so. Yeah, they're talking about that guy's fucking kidneys and the remnants that are after he's you told me you stopped at page 350 you don't even fucking know what's going on here remember we read this together aj during the season over zoom Think about fucking recommending this book for a weekly book club. Aaron's the best. How many pages?

I believe that one was like 650. I mean, Graham Hancock is legit. He's got some interesting stuff. No Graham Harrell. 574. Graham Harrell? He's no Graham Harrell. You're right. Yeah.

I mean, but still. Let's go, Mountaineers. Let's go, Mountaineers. We have a quote from the mascot, I guess. He did an interview with The Athletic. The quote reads as such. I actually texted my dad. I was like, guess who's about to do the Oklahoma drill against A.J. Dillon?

He texted me back and was like, what? You got this. And, yeah, I did not have it at all. Okay. So fuck this guy. He knew. He thought he had a chance? I guess. No, his dad did. it at all. Okay. So fuck this guy. He knew. So he thought he had a chance? I guess.

No, his dad did. Well, that's okay. His dad's got a part. I understand. You've got to instill confidence in your kids. Thanks, Dad. But did he really think he had him? I don't think so.

Guess who's about to do the Oklahoma drill against A.J. Dillon. His dad texted him back, what? You got this. His dad, never seen an NFL player before in real life. I assume, dude, pretty good athlete, this guy. Yeah, sure. And his dad's like, yeah, you got this his dad never seen an nfl player before no in real life i assume dude pretty good athlete this guy yeah and his dad's like yeah you got him you got him i don't think he had any expectations of having a successful outcome within the fucking oklahoma drill with aj dylan yeah no chance just like you in the mascot i mean he pictured you when he was running through that yeah yeah that did motivate me like hey maybe we could do it but But then I just remembered, you know, when AJ Della came

on here, he says he, you know, goes on Twitch and plays Call of Duty and that's an Activision game. So no thanks. I don't want to be associated with that. Let's get to a break. Way to tie it together, Con. Let's get to a break. So maybe he didn't read page 574 like we did. Yeah, he might have, but I don't know if we can stand for him as a good guy because

he's still playing. Who makes these books? Sorry. Who makes these books? I don't know. Where can stand for this good guy because he's still playing. Who makes these books? Who makes these books? I don't know. Where are they bound? Wood makes books. Corn makes whiskey. Soddy makes fucking video games.

God damn it. Watch out for that, pal. They don't make them, right? They just back the people who make them. What's the difference? Ipso facto. I know. Hey.

As Connor said earlier, the transitive property. They make coffee, tea. What? Baked goods. What? Gas. What? Internet.

What? Movies. What? Great movies. What? Coca-Cola. What? Sports. What? Bank of America. movies wide great movies wide coca-cola wide sports

wide bank of america oh that's an american name it does it does the fuck did you see who else

is on that list what do banks need investment money for i thought that's where you're taking all our fucking money for yeah i thought we were in debt

what are they even taking what we're in debt the What are they even taking? Yeah, Jimmy seafood took a big fucking investment from what from who the Saudis did they Jimmy seafood did yeah That's why it's a throw their cricket parade. It makes sense Rudy so's never Pray, we're kind of wish they would at this point. They open a limited amount of hours. But Lou Malnati's. That's from Chicago.

I know. Well, Ty, what's the Philly place you always get? No, Dalsandro's, dude. No, they did not. They would never.

We need to stop throwing these out. Maybe it's fuckers at Gino's or Pat's, but not Dalsandro's. All right, let's get to a break. We'll answer some questions. I likeino's or Pat's, but not to Alessandro's. All right, let's get to a break. We'll answer some questions. I like when people have serious conversations with Ty when he asks that.

Yeah. He did it three times. Only one. Colleen Wolfe was so happy to share Philadelphia stories with you. I know. On multiple occasions. And you refused to even give even more. You just did the same.

Yeah. Well. Yo! She fell hook, line, and sinker for the same bit three times in a row. I love Colleen. I love Colleen.

What is this? Don't leave me lonely. Yeah. Old school. T's and P's to Pat's and Gino's, by the way. Are we able to play this? I think so.

Is it Saudi producers? This used to be right. I have to go. Real quick Where does the guitars come from? Texas How about the computers that are generating the music? Can we not listen to music anymore? There's a problem. Pants.

Are those fenders? Well, I mean, you can't listen on AirPods. Tell you how much I'm throwing mine out right now. Let's get out of here, dude. We need to change the subject. But... Yeah. Is that guy English, though? Yes.

Yeah. Okay. Well. What? I thought we were just talking about England. What are they doing? This is in the British Empire. Let's get to a break.

I'm sick of it. It's so never-same. Hey, they're dealing with a heat wave right now, all right? Hey, we're changing the world, though, I feel like. Honestly. I feel like we are changing. This they're dealing with a heat wave right now. Hey, we're changing the world though, I feel like. Honestly, I feel like we are changing. This never happens, but we're a dumb show. We're changing the world right now. Let's go!

Look at us, AJ. Look at us. Just like it said, in the power of now, by Eckhart Tolle. You gonna go through the whole list on this show? Just when it calls for it. Page 123.

No. What page was it? 172. There it is. Give up the relationship with yourself. Boom. Couldn't have said it fucking better. Well said.

What does that mean? We're back. Shut up, baby. Don't be so dumb. You're making everybody say, yeah, sports people are dumb when you say stuff like that uh joining us now is a voice of golf a voice of pga i made a quote tweeted my tweet yesterday talking about fairty going to live and basically put a megaphone out to all the other golf people to attack me excited to hear what he has to say not 100 sure if he saw my high horse in segment earlier but a friend of the show

host the gravy and sleaze podcast ladies and gentlemen former pga golfer now pga analyst and pundit call it nice day everybody how you doing i'm good off, I did see your high horse. That was fantastic. I would have died. So props to you on being an incredible athlete still. Thank you. And I just want to, I appreciate that. I did almost fall.

Okay, I will say. If you watch back in slow, there was a moment where it kind of went, had to open the base up a little bit more. Kind of got a little bit too comfortable talking about the high horse and I was going on on Twitter, almost busting my ass. You and the rest of the golf community would have fucking loved that. I mean, you guys would have been quote tweeting, hey, this is the guy that said, you know,

live is good for golf and this is great for players. My question to you, Colt, what did I get wrong? And why does it feel like so many of the golf media are so against these players getting life-changing money when they've played on a tour, you've played on a tour, you guys have covered a tour that has zero guaranteed money for guys that are on the road for so long? Like, why am I wrong in being, like, super pumped for these golfers and acknowledging that, like, hey, Liv is changing fucking golf, and this should have happened a long time ago if it wasn't for a monopoly. I genuinely like to go into the deep part of the lake. I would like to hear why I am completely wrong on all that, Colt. Well, first off, I'm a huge fan of yours.

I love watching your show. The only reason I quote-tweeted is I disagreed with what you said about how the PGA Tour basically plays for no money, and they're not taking care of their players. And I just don't think that's right. I mean, $480 million for the game of golf is a lot of money. It's not for the NFL, but you can't compare those two. These are two totally different sports. One thing I have a problem with is that everyone's trying to compare golf to other sports and it's totally different. I mean, you want to call yourself an independent contractor or whatever it is, you have to earn your living in the game of golf. And I think

that's what makes it so great and so compelling is it's not a guaranteed exhibition every single week. Like these guys go out, they play well. That's why you see some of these guys, you know, they make a putt on the 18th hole on Sunday to finish eighth instead of 10th. And they fist pump because they know it's a big difference in money. It's a big difference of points. Whereas other sports, you finish eighth, you don't give a shit. Like, it's over. It's no big deal. Got it.

I just like – I think that's one of the beautiful things about golf is you have to go out there and earn a living. Like, I played out there forever. I want these guys to make as much money as possible. I've always been a guy who has tried to get the PGA Tour to give these guys a stipend each week or a guaranteed number at the start of the year to help cover expenses because it is different. It is expensive to go around there and play.

But to say, like, the PGA Tour players should be getting NFL money is just preposterous. I mean – I don't know who said that. Did I say that? Who said that? No, no, no. That's what a lot of people in the media have said.

Not you. Okay, okay, perfect. Well, the media people – I don't know who's saying that because a lot of people in the media have said. Not you. Okay, okay, perfect. Well, the media people, I don't know who's saying that because a lot of the media people that I've experienced have been riding a high horse of hypocrisy about how morally bankrupt it is for them to go to live and take care of their family when they've been covering a tour.

And I, by the way, I respect the fuck out of the fact that you're like, hey, if you want to make money, you've got to go win every single week, even though the tour is going to use your name, your likeness, your expectation of being there to sell advertisements and TV deals that are worth billions and billions and billions of dollars, and you can sit there and watch the people that are above you in the league

profit off of it regardless. I respect that you are, hey, let me earn it. I'm an earn it guy. With that being said, the fact that there's an available option now where guys can also earn more money, I think it's like, what, $20 million or something like that? Earn more in the

entire thing. I don't think getting a piece of the pie guaranteed to the athletes is anywhere near a bad thing, and I think we're never going to agree on that. I feel like that's something that we will never, ever agree upon that i you know i feel like that's something that we will never ever agree upon listen i want golfers to make as much money as possible the more golfers the more money they make probably the more money i make in the role i'm in now which is fantastic but if you look at golf as a whole right like comparing it to other sports

the most watched golf tournament of all time was the 2019 masters it did less viewerships than the average nfl game so therefore it's kind of hard and i think one of the arguments we say is you know this 54 hole exhibition if we put it in football terms say they gave aaron rogers who makes 50 million dollars a year you know 200 million to go over and play seven on seven flag football would that be good for the nfl no but at least the n is paying their players. Like if you're playing and being marketed and you're being utilized to, for your league to profit, which you are being used in every negotiation. And you're talking about ratings. We know what the TV deals are worth, right? We know the money they like PGA actually shit out $160 million overnight. Didn't

they like, boom, here we go. $160 million more in prizes. We're going to take care of this. We're going to take care of that. So that would immediately tell you that that money was somewhere, right? Where is that money? Where was that money at? And that's why I think like, live is, hey, here's guaranteed money. Now they're a much different operation. The business behind it is who knows if it works out long-term, maybe everybody's going out and they're not trying to make any money. If you have $675 billion and you invest $1 billion like you have in EA Sports or in Starbucks or in any of these other companies, long term, that might make you money. That's like a 10, 15, 20 year thing. We have no idea what's going to happen. But them rattling it up and sharing the money, this is just like the NCAA

athletes, I think, personally. I didn't know that the PGA tour didn't guarantee money for their players. I didn't know that players had to pay their travel, their food, their caddies, everything week to week to week. And you could potentially lose what five figures going into actually showing up in competing at something. You might lose five to five figures if you're a big guy that doesn't make the cut. Like I didn't know any of that. So i think that information coming with this taking place it's going to be really hard to get me not to believe like hey there's a lot of shit not being talked about with the pga tour for a long time by a lot of these media people that are now attacking the players for making money you know like that is it's hard for me to get past that like it was almost a guise there for a bit you know what i mean called it felt like it was like like something that none of us knew about, but players are probably pissed off about for a very long time, I'd assume.

I'll say two things. First off, I'm not pissed at any player going over there and making a lot of money. I'm pissed at when they hate on the PGA Tour afterwards. I think this thing would have gone totally different, in my opinion, if they went on there and say Phil Mickelson, the first guy who said anything about this tour said, you know what, guys? I love the PGA Tour. It has been great to me. I've made an incredible amount of money off this, but I have a better financial opportunity over here that I'm going to take. Instead of ripping apart the PGA Tour, I think things would have been totally different. So you're saying the live folks bashed PGA Tour before everybody that's associated with the PGA tour bash the live guys.

No, no, no, no. Phil was the first guy to bash the PGA tour. He decided to make the move. So he made it, you're saying,

you're saying he made it a combative thing as opposed to a, and that's the one that started like, okay, the PGA now is going to rally every human to call it a defector, call it a, a, a traitor to the country like that is you're saying like if the live guys didn't say anything bad about the pga tour this wouldn't happen but

the pga tour have said some fucking i mean right hasn't that that is that is oh yeah they've they i think they probably could have handled it differently no doubt about it but when you when you bring up the money thing once again it's yes I think live had a huge factor in that $160 million getting put out. But also one thing that doesn't get talked about, we go back to the TV rights. They just signed a new deal that went in place last year that they went from 400 million to 700 million a year in TV rights. So there's obviously more money there. And as you know, the more money you get from

TV, the more money you can put back into your product. The PGA Tour can be better. It's not perfect. But I just don't like the dividing of the game. That's the part that bothers me as a golf fan, a guy who watches more golf than probably anybody on the planet, and who wants to see the best players play against each other week in and week out. I mean, how exciting was the Open Championship last week? How exciting was the PGA a few weeks ago?

That shit is exciting. The majors are still going to happen. The majors are still going to happen. Of course they are. Still going to happen. The majors are still going to happen. Of course they are. Still going to happen. But, like, we want that more often. Like, the Arnold Palmer, the Memorial, those events. Like, we want to see it more than four times a year. Got it.

So, you're – Cool. Yeah, sorry, AJ, go ahead. So, what happens, though? Like, what is the end game? We know what Hendrick Stenson just went over. He was the captain of the European Ryder Cup team, right? That's a big deal.

Cam Smith reportedly going over. Like, what's the endgame? How long does this happen? Like, what is the PGA Tour going to do? You know, I don't know. That's a great question. I wish I did know. It's a tough time for the game of golf right now

because you see the reports of Cam Smith going over after winning the Open Championship. You don't know how many more guys are going to continue to go over. But, man, I don't know. As just a guy sitting, I don't know exactly what their business plan is over there in Saudi Arabia with the live golf. Like, eventually, at some point, I don't care how much money you have, you're going to get tired of selling out billions and billions of dollars

without a return. That's just me. I don't know how they think about that. But I don't see it being sustainable. But maybe they have a plan in place that I don't know how they think about that, but I don't see it being sustainable, but maybe they have a plan in place that I don't know about. Yeah, it's interesting because the PGA has already had to answer. They've had to change, it seems like. But my big point and problem is just the athletes being the only ones being attacked for taking the money from a Saudi Arabian sovereign

fund that they have that has $675 billion when literally their money's in every, basically every single business that exists, like literally every single. So my issue is whenever the guys are getting attacked. And I thought hearing you say, I'm happy guys are getting money and doing their whole thing. It's great to hear that because I was honestly going to ask you, like, how do you sleep at night knowing that, like, you could potentially bury a guy that you were for a long time who's getting an opportunity to change the trajectory of their family that they would never have had before? You know, like, that is where I'm, like, conflicted. Why is it the athletes getting attacked as opposed to every business person that is potentially

doing a lot of the same stuff? That's where my problem lies. And I think that's why I am open to athletes getting more opportunities, more money, better treatment, less work, better travel. Com Smith trying to put that thing into the overhead.

I mean, that looked bad whenever you got Pat Perez. We are the champions. We are the champions. No time for losers Cause we are the champions Excuse me, Dustin Johnson, he said. Get out of the way. We're on a Boeing 757 private jet here.

They're taking... I thought that's where you were lying and that's why you quotes tweeted me and said like, hey, this is a bunch of of lies so i apologize for the bit of hostility you had to have felt at the beginning of this conversation oh no you're fine i knew this was going to be a little bit of a heated debate and there's there's no animosity towards you i was just sticking up for what i thought you know should be said about the pj tour they do take care of their players now that private jet's absolutely ridiculous that they flew on. I mean, you can't

say anything about that. I'm not sure who paid for that. If that was Liv or if that was the tournament in Ireland, all those guys were playing on. All those guys went and played in. But I have never once hated on a player for taking the money. Okay. All right. Well, I appreciate it. Not once. And you don't think a lot of the people are doing that? You don't think that's

happening? Oh, no. They are. They are. Well, I thought your word, you said, you said a year ago that you were happy and content just where you are. You fucking went back on your word just tired, and you're a terrorist. And you're taking money. That feels like that is the sentiment coming out of the golf community. I'm wrong in that? No, a lot of people do that. But I'm just saying, me personally, I've never hated on a guy for taking the money.

Because, listen, you put $100 million in front of anybody, it's going to make you do some thinking, and it's really freaking hard to turn down. There's no doubt about it. I just want what's best for the game of golf. I want to see the best guys play against each other week in and week out. That's all I care about. Hey, I can respect the hell out of that, ladies and gentlemen.

CBS host of the Gravy and the Sleaze podcast, friend of the show the show i appreciate you coming on here we needed this for the good of the program ladies and gentlemen colton us he trends every single time right yeah people seem to love the dog is that his go is mad dogs go-to to bring up only players that played 70 years ago yeah it's his charm yeah his thing's like he's a historian of the games, and he respects the games how they were originally played. And everybody else, bitch

made cats. That's right. Kyrie can dribble, but he can't dribble like Bob Koozie. Steph Curry can shoot. But, Pete, can't shoot like Larry or Pistol. Aaron Rodgers is good, but did you ever see Sid Luckman throw a football? Boom.

Boom. Who? He loves Sid Luckman. This is what we're going to do 30 years from now. Just wait. Same microphone. I can't. Same horse.

I'll be sitting on it. I'll probably be standing on it full time. 30 years from now, I'll probably be standing on it full time. The core strength is going to be serious. Also, I'm probably going to be ridiculously snooty and an asshole 30 years from now. If I'm doing this, I'm going to be up on it full time if i have core strength is going to be serious well and also i'm probably gonna be ridiculously snooty and an asshole 30 years from now if i'm doing this i'm gonna be up on my high horse i'm gonna be smarter than everybody and i'm just gonna say this guy hey can't shoot the fucking rock like steph curry you ever seen fucking chef cook now his first pair of shoes terrible they're like nursing shoes but i'll tell you what he changed the whole fucking

game of basketball how about every basketball player that you can list off at the start for whatever team they should be writing thank you letters to fucking steph curry it was all seven quarters before steph curry came you are welcome for what steph curry did how could you even say that this guy's a better basketball player than him and having like that's what happens in the sports world you just you just collect right you just collect the more you see the more you know and i would assume that he is very confident with what he says because he's seen it all is what he says you know what i mean yeah it's tough to make the argument to people that have never seen really who you're talking about play you know when different generations of that yeah but a lot of people say like oh it's super smart not saying about

mad dog but there's people that are like have you his ability to recall blah blah blah from like that is a compliment people give people whenever they're able to dive i mean there's but there's people that are like, have you, his ability to recall, blah, blah, blah, that is a compliment people give people whenever they're able to dive back. I mean, there's a reason Mad Dog's been relevant for 40, 50, however long he's been doing it, 30 years, I don't know. No juice, no juice. Yeah, 30 years from now, Arch Manning's like little boy who's about to be, what, the

greatest QB of all time. Okay, this kid's great uncle, Eli Manning, was known as the Patriots killer. That's right. There's no way this kid can live up to the height of his great uncle, his other great uncle, even his dad, Arch. That's kind of how it goes. I think that is how the sports thing goes throughout the evolution of sports commentary.

You do wonder if, because you talk about it being cyclical, like 30 years they're just running the ball 40 times a game again. That's not 30 years. I think that's going to happen like 10 years from now. All-Star comes out of retirement. Oh, yes. You talking to me? Are you talking to me?

I mean, All-Starars kid at that point. What are you doing? What do you think? Ten years from now when everybody's small? Sorry, Zeta said something in my ear. That was obviously uncomfortable. Come on, Z. You think ten years from now, I mean, it happened a little bit with Lamar

with the double tight ends. Yeah. And it happens with Josh Allen. He's running powers. Everybody's getting smaller, right? So that would automatically make you think that the high football IQ people are going to be like, all right, now we fucking – he's 220. This guy's 220 pounds.

What are you going to do, 270 fullback? Like I can hear coaches thinking it. Can't you? Like I can kind of – I'm not acting like I'm a prophet or anything, but that just feels like something that's going to probably continue to happen. And then once it goes back too big, then it'll come back to speed. But the NFL wants it to be quick, don't they? So maybe they'll stop this cycle.

I don't see us going back to old school, like seven-step drops when they throw and you only throw the ball 14 times a game. I don't see that. I don't see it coming to that. What do you think? Because they'll make rules that make it so beneficial to be wide open? Yeah, we need points. Yeah, we always need points.

We need space. They want to use all of the field at all times. They want to see people out in space. But the NFL can stop the cycle of football coaches and personnel people of taking advantage of undersized defenders. They can stop it by making the rules so beneficial to continue to be small and fast that you won't want to go but like the nfl won't want to go back to the ground and pound is that what you think probably yeah but just because i don't

think it does it's not going to help the nfl make more money if they do go back to old school days i agree but you can see a football guy not give a fuck. Eventually, though, there might be a team that puts together some dudes and they kind of bully people for a year or two, and then everyone else, some other teams may try that. Well, that's what I'm saying. And then how the NFL, you know, they'll be

exposed. Then that team that has a bunch of dudes and bullies people for a year, they'll get exposed the next year. Yeah, somebody will figure it out. If Tyreek Hill running his fucking, you know, just be but you got Ricard. Patrick Card, what? DN, 280? Yeah, 310. He's a holdback for the Ravens.

Lamar running. They got J.K. Dobbins back week one. Ian, suck it. Yeah, and also they did change rules last year to make it easier for linemen in space. Like if you're a DB, you can't go low anymore. So it's like those guys would get crushed do you think they made screens those little screens and deals like that that's huge for the line those are rules that they're making so that people have to continue to play fast and small yeah no it's for safety no but we just

figured it out didn't i mean i feel like today's a big time day for us and with quarterbacks like it feels like every quarterback that comes out has some sort of athleticism. Even Mac Jones, who doesn't run the ball very much, he's still fast if you look at the last 20 years. What did he run? 4.6? 4.6.

And then obviously Josh Allen trailing. That's crazy to think Mac Jones ran a 4.6. Yeah. Isn't it? Fields, flies. Caught a touchdown on his pro day. That's right. I saw him jump.

He jumped and caught it at his hip. That's why Bill wanted him. That's why Bill wanted him. That was fun. That's why Bill wanted him. That's such good dexterity. And Devontae Smith wasn't going to do his workout. And Matt Tritt said, come on. Come on. Let's have fun out here.

Dude, come on. It's football. Let's throw some bombs. Yeah. And that was huge. Yeah, but who knows because he was wearing those Nobles. And? And?

He was probably gassed up by Saudi fucking phones and shit. Whatever. I'm fucking over it. Does he wear Noble cleats? Yeah. Yeah. I didn't think that phones and shit. Whatever. I'm fucking over it. Does he wear No Bull cleats? Yeah. I didn't see that to be Nike. Which, hey, once again, there we are. It's the whole NFL.

Real quick, though. No Bull might have been rounding up money and investment to try to make a deal with the NFL to get onto the field. Because you have to pay the NFL to get onto the field. You have to be NFL licensed to get onto the field. What is it? Adidas? Nike? Under Armour?

All the jerseys are mine. I don't think Reebok's licensed anymore. We're just talking cleats. We're talking cleats to get on the field. Like Aaron wears Adidas. Von Miller wears Adidas, right? They wear the cleats. Can't spat and have to wear the cleats. I don't know.

They have New Balance cleats. I don't know if you have to spat or if they have a license yet. Yeah, but you just got to pay a shit ton of money, right, to the NFL, and it's like, yeah, we'll let your cleats project rock license which is smart by the way smart business i don't know if project rock is i know under armor is smart business by the nfl too because the nfl knows you see this shit on the field by 49 million people they're gonna sell so it's like just that's why it happens so it like makes sense but maybe no bull was rounding up money so that they can make a deal with the nfl to get some no bulls out there well

he definitely made a deal with the Patriots because I know a lot of their posts now are sponsored by no bull. I mean, it's a massive company. What is no bull? It's no bullshit.

Yeah, exactly. You wouldn't fucking understand. What do they have? It's clothing and shoes. He's got these new shoes that he's wearing. It's on the field so they have to have a deal

with the Patriots. Wait, are they an offshoot of Adidas or something? No, dude. It's no bull. They have some nice products. Conor has chosen to buy none of the Patriots. Wait, are they an offshoot of Adidas or something? No. No, dude. It's no bull. They have some nice products. Conor has chosen to buy none of the nice ones.

Well, I don't know about that. The tie-dye collection just came out. Now they're floral collections. Will you please lift those bad boys up? There are flyers on the- You got to remember,

this is mid- Pull up on your face. Pull up on your- You can't see that. Pull up on the- Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Zoom in on the desk.

Fucking sick. Actually, those are way better than your other ones. Yes, they're much better than the other ones. They're part of the tie-dye collection. That's pretty sweet. Thanks, man. They're like racing shoes. No.

Wrestling shoes. They're no-bull shoes. Those are the old-school auto mixes. To no-bulls' credit, I thought that last Tom's looking pair he wore would wear out. They did not. No. Those things remained for like a year and a half.

Yeah, they last. I just stopped wearing them because I got them wet and they started smelling bad. Well, they had to round up money to make a good product. Yeah, exactly. I mean, the new collections I have are just next level. No free ads. All right, I'm out of here. Today was a day.

Yeah, it was awesome. Can't have today's show every day, but every once in a while, you know, when I'm just called an idiot and a terrorist for hours, it's nice to come out and do this. Let's get into it. It's a good day to do this. You know what I mean, AJ? I'm sure tonight will be, you know, on the internet will be fine. You won't have any issues.

Well, I mean, we didn't even dive into what MLB did to Jeff Passant yesterday. That was not fair. WhatB did to Jeff Passant yesterday. That was not fair. What they did to him and Tim Kirchner, legend of the game. Did you see Siciliano on the baseball? Oh, no. Wait, what does Kirchner do? Do you think Kirchner looks like the mouse from If You Give a Mouse a Cookie?

I don't understand. Irving is 6'10". He's a big boy. But who knew Kirchner was 4'3"? How about Judd Passon sitting there just like, boom, what are you saying? You know what I mean? Just absolutely. He just can't have it.

He just can't have it. Get those guys off the screen. Get a one shot on him. Move the camera on the other side. Yeah. Camera on the other side. Give Kirchner a seat at least or some kind of stool. He is sitting, I think.

Yeah. I mean, Kirchner can't even hear him. He needs an exoskeleton. Yes. Put him in one of those stilts. All right. All right. All right.

And I love Tim Kirchner. Yes. All right. This feels like a pro go. No, seriously. Tim Kirchner show. Yeah. And we are.

But this is one of those things that as soon as it happened on television, 100 tweets come in. Oh, no. Oh, my God. Oh, no. Oh, no. Ty, what do you think Kirchhen said about this when he saw it? Yeah, the photo.

I mean, I didn't realize I was 3'8". I thought I was more like 4'2". Is this what this guy sounds like? Yeah, Tim Kirchhen does sound like that. That's what he sounds like? Oh, yeah. Come on. Does he want to call – he called the derby? No, no,chian does sound like that. That's what he sounds like? Oh, yeah. Come on. Does he even want to call?

He called the Derby? No, no, no. That was a rabbit. He's a baseball insider. Long time. The legend of the team. How long has he talked like that? His whole career?

Ever since I've seen him on TV. How does he talk again? I have never heard the man. This is how I'm going to assume he talks forever now. Know that pressure. Yeah. This guy talking about Boomer standing at 6'10", him sitting far side of the camera would sound like what?

Yeah, I mean, when you look at it. Are you serious? I thought he was going to eat me as an appetizer and have Jeff pass it as the main course. What? He sounds like the referee from Eight Crazy Nights who takes Adam Sandler into his trailer park when his house burns down. Jeez. Yeah, everybody knows that reference. I mean, if you don't, then watch the movie because it's awesome.

That was quite a deep dive. Eight crazy nights all the way in there. All right. Hey, Jet, you're all right, Jet. Miss you, buddy. Good to see you on ESPN. Miss you, Jet. Thought there was a chance.

Is Jet six foot eight next to Kirchen? No. Well, if you heard what Kirchen justPN. Yeah. Thought there was a chance. Is Jet six foot eight next to Kirchhen? No. No. Well, if you heard what Kirchhen just said. Yeah. No. I'm 3'11". So you do your math.

What's your problem? You don't like Tim? I love Tim. No, it sounds like you don't like Tim. No. I just want to let you know. He's going to the Hall of Famers. I'm not sure he speaks like that.

I mean, no. Look it up. Yeah, he sounds just like Tim. Look it up. I've been doing a Tim Kirchhen for long before I met you guys. Because you're a big baseball guy. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. All right. We're a big baseball show. We'll talk all about it up. Yeah, he sounds just like that. Look it, I've been doing a Tim Kirk shit for long before I met you guys. Because you're a big baseball guy. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

All right, we're a big baseball show. We'll talk all about it tomorrow. AJ, have a good one, pal. You too, pal. What are we allowed to do and not allowed to do? Where do we draw the lines? We'll figure it out overnight. Absolutely.

I'll send you if you, you know, I'll put a deck together. We'll figure out how we move forward. Can you BCC me on that one? Yep. All right. Diggs we move forward. Can you BCC me on that one? Yep. Alright. Diggs at AOL.com. Yep. Got it. How about us figuring the world out? Sports show. Good show, man. Let's ride.

Let's ride. Let's ride. And do a 20-hour, 52-minute break. Be a friend, tell a friend goodbye. Thank you. Gjøra på en viss veld. Thank you. Kanskje vi kan ta en kvart av denne videon? Thank you.