The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 701 - Kyler Murray Agrees To 5-Year Extension With Cardinals, 49ers Grant Jimmy G Permission To Seek A Trade, & ESPY's Recap With AJ Hawk

Episode Date: July 21, 2022

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys recap everything that happened last night on the ESPY's, the general consensus surrounding the show, and the breaking news that the Cardinals and Kyler Murr...ay have officially agreed on a new 5 year extension that will pay him $160 guaranteed, and $230.5 million overall, what this means for guys like Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, and Justin Herbert, as well as the news that the 49ers have officially given Jimmy G permission to seek a trade from the 49ers, where might be a likely landing destination for him, what the 49ers will end up doing, and a couple of potential surprise teams that would jump in the sweepstakes to get him. Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show, and listen on Sirius XM Channel 82, Mad Dog Radio. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, beautiful people. It is Thursday, July 21st, 2022, and this sports show, that's pretty poor, starts now. Let's ride. That's right, let's ride into a sports show both on the internet at youtube.com forward slash the Pat McAfee show and on the radio at Sirius XM channel E2, Mad Dog Sports Radio. First take, I know. Yeah. He is the face, one of the faces of first take. He looks handsome.
Starting point is 00:00:28 He's crushing it, obviously. And our show is in an interesting spot, just like every other sports show is. Yesterday, there was one game on, and obviously this guy beat the storm. Yep, great game. Way to go, this guy. Big tilt.
Starting point is 00:00:40 Last night was ESPYs, and we'll talk about that a little bit. Not a lot of sports. I mean, there was definitely sports there but I could see, once again, I don't watch a lot of things outside of the sports. I try to keep my blinders on.
Starting point is 00:00:54 I know that's not necessarily like the best thing to do but it's like, I feel like my duty, you know, to kind of keep my spirits up, keep the energy up, live in my own little dumb world,
Starting point is 00:01:05 and cover what people would expect and hope for us to cover. Now, we've had to chit-chat about a couple other things that have been alarming over the last week, what I've learned about the world and how it operates. I think we all are kind of doing that as we go. But it felt like last night's ESPYs had, you know, some very, very cool moments. Obviously, the Pat Tillman Award.
Starting point is 00:01:23 Pat Tillman, fucking badass. Every time they talk about him, you go back, look back into his story. His book was actually in the book club. I think everybody talks about how great he is, how big of a, you know, just a champion. Truly. Pat Tillman. So, the story of Command Sergeant Major Gretchen Evans last night, and her going deaf and getting blown up and leading her crew, and her story of her love with her dog rusty
Starting point is 00:01:45 and then or i believe was uh her first um uh service dog that her husband who's also in the service is using so it was i mean there was emotion it was like actually emotional while watching this fucking badass by the way like hey last person you'd want to fuck with oh yeah look like she's maybe this tall whatever she walked through now there's a lot of athletes which are a little bit taller but absolute badass touching moment really very much so really got me in like the sps have that right there's those moments those stories that happen dickie uh dickie vitale talking about the jimmy v foundation how that all came to be. I'm not 100% sure if I liked Dick Vitale as much as I should have, I think.
Starting point is 00:02:31 I'm not a big college basketball fan. Would much rather watch NBA guys. If I wanted to see a bunch of dudes miss shots, I'd go down to YMCA. But I do know that people love college basketball. And in March Madness, I'll gamble on it. We'll all dive into it. But I'm not like a day-to-day, week-to-week college basketball and in March Madness I'll gamble on it. We'll all dive into it. But I'm not like a day-to-day week-to-week college basketball follower.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Have no problems with anybody that does, but just not really my thing. I'm more of an NBA fan. So the Dick Vitale world has never really been my, like, just like Walton. Like, I understand. I know of him, but I didn't grow up
Starting point is 00:03:03 in it. I didn't grow up in it. Dick Vitale, what a fucking legend that guy is after watching last night. And I think there's a lot of people that maybe don't love Dick Vitale anymore after however long it is. I think that was kind of a read on the internet every time he's on. I click on it because I think he's such an interesting character because he's been around for so long. He's high energy. He seems to go unscripted and be able to do whatever he wants,
Starting point is 00:03:29 and he's been very successful for a long time. And his house we saw last night, really nice. Oh, yeah, gorgeous. Really nice house. He's earned it, by the way. He's absolutely done that. So I think there's a lot of people that get like that. People get like that with me.
Starting point is 00:03:39 I completely understand it. But after hearing his story, listening to him talk, his family talk, the way he chit-chatted about how the Jimmy V Foundation came to be, how much money, $55 million he's raised for the Jimmy V Foundation, or $500 million or $300 million the Jimmy V Foundation has raised. I mean, it is just the stories. And then at one point they were telling him to wrap up as he was pouring his heart out after battling against cancer, 82 years old, as he was pouring his heart out after battling against cancer, 82 years old, and getting this award that was named in one of his best friends who passed away his honor.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Obviously, anybody, especially after watching it, everybody kind of expected that to happen, but there was one sorry sap that had to try to tell him, like, hey, wrap it up. Come on, Dickie. And this is where he won me over. He said, they're trying to tell me to wrap it up I'm going to tell them exactly what my guy Jimmy V
Starting point is 00:04:27 told him hey he literally told him hey go fuck yourself in Italian and I don't think there was one paisan in the truck that knew that that's what he said but if you're going to be a guy that's going to give an emotional acceptance speech in honor of your friend we're going to learn about you
Starting point is 00:04:43 you're going to keep fighting he had his head sewn complete. His head was cut completely open at one point. Sewed completely back together because of, I think he had lymphoma and some other stuff. And you're back energetic and giving your own thing.
Starting point is 00:04:56 And you're telling suits that work at ESPN, Vafongo, I fucking love you. Dog. So I enjoyed that moment. That got a little bit emotional as well. It was nice to see some people get their accolades for an incredible year.
Starting point is 00:05:11 But God damn, the whole world's things were just like. Sports. I learned a lot. I learned a lot about a lot on there. And obviously I'd heard of everything going on, but the amount of depth that it was dove into i feel like the espies feel like a true responsibility to uh publicly state exactly where they stand in the biggest month hey we are going to make sure people know that we are standing for this we're standing for this we're standing for this we're standing for this we're
Starting point is 00:05:42 standing for this and i can respect that and appreciate that but that is 100 why there's a lot of people that are just like i won't watch this anymore right because i actually put a tweet out last night we watching the sbs question mark fuck the sbs i hate the sbs blah blah blah blah blah and i'm like why are people so against the sbs and i think it's because i haven't watched in a long time i feel like like the SBs are, you know, allowing the voices of the athletes to be heard when it comes to everything happening in the world. And they feel like it's an open forum for that. And I think there's a lot of fans of sports that have their own shit that they're going through on a day-to-day basis. And sports are an escape for them. And they like, hey, listen, love that we are all trying to make the world a better place,
Starting point is 00:06:30 but I can't fucking pay my bill next week. Like I love that we got this going on, but like my mom and grandma or brother are like going through something super serious. I just got laid off. I just got fired. So I think there is very valid points on both sides of it. But the ESPYs, if anybody thinks it's just going to be sports talk, I don't think that's an accurate depiction of what the ESPYs will ever be. But also, I think sports should
Starting point is 00:06:58 remember, like, a lot of people going through a lot of fucking shit and sports is kind of the celebration and the escape for all that. So, you you know let's find a meeting place in the middle because there is certainly reason to celebrate all the fucking great shit that happened this last year in sports i think it started i think it started with tone digs one half host uh one hammer i think it started with hollywood right because uh those award shows turned into this and then maybe creeped into sports i don't know who started it first. But all award shows now are if you win something or you get up on that stage, for some reason they have to feel like everyone wants to hear their thoughts
Starting point is 00:07:34 on every matter that's happening. I mean, listen. I will speak for me. And once again, the things that are said on this show by people in cowboy hats or with mullets or with the Yankees caps or anything else in there that is, that does not reflect the opinion of their employer or their peers have to remember that. Of course.
Starting point is 00:07:55 And to be honest, I don't know how that people even expect that from some people, like somebody who work at a network and say something and they'll be like, Oh, so that means this person, that was this guy's idea this this whole thing i don't even know wouldn't you want a little bit of free speech and there's a lot of people that think exactly we think it's honorable right like i honestly think it's honorable when people go up there and they think that at that moment they are going to change the world. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Okay? I think it's honorable. Very much so. I think there is good intentions behind those speeches, thinking it is. But I'm not 100% sure anything has ever changed from any award show speech, but people get at least an opportunity to let the world know where they stand, which will hopefully maybe lead other people into doing and all that but i just i don't you get an award for entertainment and um like nobody's entertaining and then like this thing it's like it's for sports but also let's change the world while doing it which i can respect i get it that people want to do that but there's i think you're
Starting point is 00:09:03 going to continue to kind of push away the people that only want sports to be like an escape because, once again, they got a lot of fucking shit going on in their lives as well that although they care about everything happening in the world, I also care about like, hey, what are we going to eat for dinner tomorrow? And like this particular sport event is the only thing that I have. I'm not saying that the espies is anything that somebody's just like this is all i got it's been ruined but there's a lot of team support for
Starting point is 00:09:31 players and for teams that are up for awards and if you look on the internet it's pretty clear so that's why i think it's so polarizing every single espy because there's always going to be good moments yeah i mean that command mate command sergeant major yes gretchen evans thing was awesome yeah that's always awesome that dick uh vital thing awesome great speech steph curry did great yeah pretty relaxed pretty comfortable took him a little bit i think to kind of go into his groove but the guy's the greatest basketball shooter of all time record breaker has a bunch of cool shit. He's an executive producer of like five shows.
Starting point is 00:10:09 So maybe it took him like a second or two to get into his comfort zone. I thought he did great. Travis Kelsey pseudo-hosted that thing. Travis Kelsey absolutely crushed it. There's some other moments that people would talk about like all universally agreed upon being awesome. Awards being given out. Justin Tucker, awesome. That a kick was up for an espy that doesn't happen often i was pretty
Starting point is 00:10:29 pumped for him he looked great too good suit he was right behind i believe draymond and uh mackie i believe we're doing the podcast there he was right up on there a couple good pops couple good hellos like the justin tucker represented for the brand out there didn't think he was going to win because it was against detroit but uh and also a delayed game probably but i do believe the espies are forever going to be a massive um polarizing thing strictly because just like sports were there for a bit and sports coverage still is on most of the networks. It's like people like to separate sports from sports or the big unifier. Hey,
Starting point is 00:11:12 not that by the way, not trying to win over anybody or that anything that was happening last night should be dividing anybody. Because I think a lot of things that everybody was saying last night is like, yeah, everybody fucking agrees with what you're saying. But I think what people think about sports is like, hey, like, that has
Starting point is 00:11:30 its own thing. Sports should have its own thing. Like, when they do an award show, like, okay, let's go through. I'm not saying this is how I feel. I'm just telling you that this is how people feel. And they will forever feel. So it will always be a conversation about the ESPYs being a fucking terrible award show for sports people.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Because it doesn't seem like it's strictly for sports people. It's for the entire world. And that's probably why a lot of people get so pissed off. But I mean, the reactions to my We Watch and the ESPYs tweet were pretty. Yeah, a lot of negatives. Very negative. I did not expect that at all. I'm like, holy fuck.
Starting point is 00:12:01 I think I normally have a pretty good grasp pretty good feel for how things are gonna go that one i did not expect people to be that like passionate like fuck this it did seem like like five to seven years ago it was kind of it had a little bit more of like a comedy slant to it and it kind of was just like a straightforward and maybe it's just you know it probably like they always have the great moments you know stewart scott had his a couple years ago robin roberts like they're always going to have that kind of emotional thing that when there's a couple of those like people really enjoy but to your point like if you're looking for an escape last night of a three-hour show like an hour and a half to two hours that was very heavy
Starting point is 00:12:37 heavy stuff and again like the the command sergeant major like that stuff's heavy but it's also cool because you'd never see that. But when you compound that stuff with everything that's going on in the world too. I mean, I didn't expect us to get into this, but Ukraine was covered. Yep. Which in turn, Brittany Griner. Klitschko got an award. Klitschko got an award, an inspiration award, because he went back and stayed in Kiev.
Starting point is 00:13:02 He didn't have to do it, served his people. Brittany Griner, Russia, was there. Uvalde was there. LGBTQ, which, by the way, a lot of athletes, very close. I believe there was a lot of women, progressive women. China. China was talking. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Not even. Connor was on top of his desk, dude, fucking celebrating. I wasn't excited about it, Tony, no. But, I mean, if they were talking fireworks, I'd give him a hat tip for sure. That was an interesting one. As it happened, and Jonathan Taylor was up for it, Breakthrough Athlete of the Year. So I have, you know, an actual actual horse a stallion in the race of
Starting point is 00:13:48 that one so i'm happy for him but as i saw it i'm like uh no chance and then they said eileen goo was up and i was like wait that's the i had to google i had to google way that is the uh oh that's a girl from america that chose to ski for China. Yeah, there it is. Sad about it. She didn't win gold either, I don't think. No. Did she medal? I think so.
Starting point is 00:14:11 I believe she did medal. Is she bringing the world together maybe? That's why she got Breakthrough Athlete of the Year? I immediately went to the phone, though, and was like, all right, let me check out how Twitter's responding. Let me see how Twitter's responding to this here. That was a fascinating one for me. That was a – because she's probably an incredible – by the way,
Starting point is 00:14:29 probably a great person, but just like the message that everybody would be like, this is the message that's being sent that's happening in it. That probably was a little bit of a thing on the internet if I had to guess, and it was. I checked it out. It got pretty loud on there. Yeah, but you can chalk that up to Carl Wentz. If the Colts make the playoffs, then Jonathan Taylor's probably going to win that award.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Unfortunately, they didn't. But they shipped her out of town. He'll probably win it next year. How come she didn't compete for us? She's very good, right? I don't know. Do we have great skiers that she wasn't going to be able to qualify in front of? She's a medalist.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Lindsey Vonn, right? Well, she's speed. This is freestyle. She does flips and whatnot. She's doing flips and whatnot. I think so, yeah. I think. I'm 100% sure.
Starting point is 00:15:12 I don't remember. I had to think back to my winter Olympic brain. Like, oh, yeah, I remember they were in the middle of that industrial park. Yeah, with the factories. And that big thing was up there. Oh, yeah, the smoke stacks. Yeah, yeah. Smoke stacks.
Starting point is 00:15:23 I had to think back and try to figure it out. But I think the ESPYs will always be something that happens, but there was literally nothing else going on in sports yesterday, so that helped. Let's move on. There's some breaking news coming out of the NFL. Ian Rappaport is now reporting that the Arizona Cardinals and Kyler Murray are in conversations
Starting point is 00:15:39 to make him the highest paid player in the history of the NFL. So what does that mean? Deshaun Watson had $230 million guarantee with the Cleveland Browns. Ian Rappaport just tweeted moments ago. The Arizona Cardinals and two-time Pro Bowl quarterback, Kyler Murray, are working to close a monster extension that will make Murray one of the NFL's highest paid players. Sources tell Ian and Tom Palacero.
Starting point is 00:16:00 After an off-season of drama, Murray could be locked in as Arizona's quarterback for years to come. He followed up. Both sides have been working nonstop for weeks and making a push to get it done. That appears to be within reach. Remember, Steve Kime came on this show and said, hey, this isn't the time. Right before the combine is not the time for this type of deal. OK, we got combine prep and we got combine prep. Then we got draft prep. Then we got the draft. Then we got rookie minicamp.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Then, then we can maybe dive into this. Right. Said that pretty openly. And then everybody else was like, hey, it feels like Kyler Murray is going to get a deal done. Maybe July, maybe August, right before training camp. That's when quarterback deals go on. Ian Rapport said the deal is slated to lock up Kyler Murray through 2028,
Starting point is 00:16:46 source says. So a five-year deal. Now, will those be voided years at the end of that five-year deal? Will it be a seven-year deal? Will it be an eight-year deal with five? Who knows how that will pan out. It's one of the NFL's highest-paid players. I apologize for stating that he was going to become the highest NFL player.
Starting point is 00:17:04 This was expected. Yeah. This is great news for the Arizona Cardinals and for Kyler Murray. Eric Burkhart, the agent of Kyler Murray, who put out a big, long memo on his Twitter saying, these Cardinals are a bunch of bitch-made cats. That's right. These motherfuckers ain't paying Kyler. Remember before Kyler got here, they had Josh Rosen quarterback.
Starting point is 00:17:23 And before Josh Rosen, you know who they had? No, you don't, because they stunk. They were terrible. They were bad. kyler got here they had josh rosen quarterback and before josh rosen you know they had no you don't because they stunk they were terrible they were bad kyler got here they got good every other quarterback's getting paid pay fucking kyler they will not be shit without kyler basically put that on a tweet send it out two days before steve kine was forced to do an open press conference at the combine here in indianapolis indiana kind of forcing the arizona cardinals hands they've been able to make up obviously they've been working on this deal kyler is he's shown flashes oh yeah when he has two stepped on people when he's made throws that nobody else can make when he's been on the run to his left and somehow his rocket arm that he has he has a fucking cannon oh yeah he's
Starting point is 00:18:03 able to just throw a dart 25 30 yards back across the field to whoever. They bring in his college roommate and friend in Hollywood, Brian DeAndre Hopkins, suspended six games, I believe, but he'll be able to get there for the back half of the season, which last year he was not there for the back half of the season. When the football games mattered, they didn't have the number one weapon. They will have that this year. Good for them.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Zach Ertz is still there, I believe. JJ Wild. Maybe the Cardinals are ready to go. They've got the quarterback situation locked up. Good for the Arizona Cardinals and good for the fifth largest city in America. Maybe the most beautiful place I've ever been. Absolutely gorgeous. Phoenix, Scottsdale area. That place is fucking awesome.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Good for Kyler getting to stay there for at least another five years. Yeah, and this probably sets the market for all those other quarterbacks too because if he's going to be one of the highest paid, it's probably between $40 million and $50 million guaranteed if we had to guess just on that based off the sheet of the other quarterbacks. We have breaking news. They have agreed to a deal. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:19:00 So they were in conversations. The Arizona Cardinals quarterback, Kyler Murray, have now agreed to terms on his extension, says Ian Rappaport. So Ian Rappaport was scared he was maybe going to get scooped by somebody else. So earlier he just wanted to say, hey, motherfuckers, I knew. Yeah, it's coming. Hey, I knew. Now, bang, they do get a deal done.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Congrats to Arizona. Congrats to Kyler Murray. You are now a very wealthy man. Remember, probably could have done this in another sport as well, baseball, that just throws out guaranteed contracts to everybody. And he was supposed to be a guy in baseball. Top ten pick. Top ten pick, absolute stud.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Would have figured it out. We've seen his athleticism. Let's assume that he would have gone on to be a great MLB player. Now he gets wealthy from football, and his team is getting built up around him. The city is coming alive. There's cranes everywhere. Everybody is trying to get to Arizona. Kyler's there for another
Starting point is 00:19:48 five years. Cliff Kingsbury just signed an extension. Steve Kime just signed an extension. Looks like the Cardinals are on a hell of a hell of a trajectory right now in the NFC West, which is going to be a problem for years to come. Yeah, absolute dogfight. What do you expect, at least, for this contract? The guaranteed, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:03 Like five years, 275, and then maybe 40 or 50 guaranteed each year? Probably 200 million guaranteed. 200 guaranteed? Because they're not going to give it more than Deshaun. So they had a deadline, and the deadline was today, because today is the day that I guess quarterbacks were going to report or something like that, or there was going to be a workout of some sort. So Kyler said, Eric Burkhardt, I got a tweet.
Starting point is 00:20:27 I will put out his agent. You think Kyler's fucking showing up without me, do you? Please. Get the fuck out. Do you want this to happen, or do you want to get this deal done? Do you want to just maybe $7 million more? We get this tweet. How much is it worth?
Starting point is 00:20:41 Kyler's showing up. How much is it worth? Drama going into a season that you cannot add drama to. First season post-COVID, post-restrictions, post-everything. You got Hollywood. You traded for Hollywood on draft day, and you're not going to have the quarterback there? No way.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Let's get this deal done now. And the Arizona Cardinals said, hey, Bob, we've been trying to get this deal done for a long time. Yeah. Let's go fucking make some magic here. Going to have to win some playoff games. Going to have to win a Super Bowl. Obviously, that's a goal for everybody,
Starting point is 00:21:08 and that's how fans would judge whether or not this was worth it or not. But I think this is a massive, great move for the Arizona Cardinals because you have no idea what's on the other side of the door. You have no clue what's on the other side of the fence. You can get another Josh Rosen, who is currently working out for the Cleveland Browns. That's right. Go ahead, Tony Diggs.
Starting point is 00:21:24 When you look at, like, you're asking, asking like what the guaranteed is going to be like Josh Allen who just got paid got 100 million guaranteed Aaron got 100 million guaranteed and then you double that plus some on the top for Deshaun 230 million guaranteed so somewhere between 100 and 230 probably we'll negate the the agent for Deshaun Watson yeah yeah like Josh Allen gets 100 guaranteed
Starting point is 00:21:49 and you get double that plus some more than double plus some Deshaun's getting more than what you signed for post taxes
Starting point is 00:21:56 like that yeah first contract ever think about that that's an insane thing and that's where by the way I'm happy that a player got that
Starting point is 00:22:04 much money guaranteed hopefully it does lift the scale for everybody else but that's where, by the way, I'm happy that a player got that much money guaranteed. Hopefully it does lift the scale for everybody else. But that's why all the other owners and GMs, either quietly and publicly, were like, What the fuck? We've had this thing figured out. We don't give real contracts like everybody else. Gotta earn.
Starting point is 00:22:20 No, we give guaranteed money to let them know, hey, we actually like you. But come on. $230 million guaranteed to that guy in this situation? off and has him was like sorry about it we weren't able to drink beers last year and everybody hates baker in the building so we got to move on so what do you so deshawn's 26 and he got 230 fully just josh allen's 25 kyler's 25 josh allen got 100 which one do you think it'll look more like josh allen's or deshawn's or somewhere in the middle? So there's now tweets coming out from Schefter saying it's six years, but if it's a five-year extension, he had one year left.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Same thing. Yeah, that's what Josh Allen's was too. Just different wording happening. Now he's deleted said tweet. Oh. A little scoopage happening right now. That's why Rappaport was like sitting on it. I'm ready.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Because Schefter did get the Jimmy G Niners scoop yesterday, which we should dive in. Congrats, Kyler. That'll be Kyler. Congrats, Cardinals. Yeah. Excited to see what you got. Congrats, Arizona. Great state. Thank you. Jimmy G has been granted...
Starting point is 00:23:19 Oh, wait. We have... Here we go. Let's go get it Cardinals are giving Kyler Murray a five-year 230.5 Hilarious Million dollar deal That includes
Starting point is 00:23:30 160 Million guaranteed Per source It gives Murray The second highest paid Quarterback average Of 46.1 Million a year
Starting point is 00:23:38 Congratulations To Kyler Yeah Wow Congratulations To the Cardinals 230.5 How about Eric Burkhart Going Congratulations to Tyler. Wow. Congratulations to the Cardinals. 230 and a half. How about Eric Burkhart going?
Starting point is 00:23:49 He's doing more. Come on. 230 is the high. If we don't go higher, guess what? We're terrible people to the rest of the NFL, the rest of the NFLPA. All these other quarterbacks are going, hey, we can't sign if it's not more than at least that. Okay, fuck. All right, here you go.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Now, how about a fully guaranteed 230.5? We ain't doing that. Come on. We'll give it more than him overall. 160 guaranteed. Good for him. That's life-changing generational wealth. And Kyler has worked his absolute ass off being an athlete for his entire life to get it.
Starting point is 00:24:18 My apologies. Digging into it more. I guess there's a difference between guaranteed at signing and practical guaranteed. Practical guaranteed is what they're reporting, the 160. That's Josh Allen got 150. Okay, so practical guaranteed is like if you play at all for the team, if you do anything, you're going to get this. If you're on the roster, roster bonuses in there as incentives,
Starting point is 00:24:40 and practically you'd assume that that would take place, but the agent's pushing for actual guarantee because injuries can take place right practically mahomes got 140 dak got 130 staffer got 130 aaron got 150 so that's kind of like and um deshaun practically got 230 and actually got 230 million guaranteed yeah so and he's not easy i thought there's a chance that he was gonna end up being just like an outlier almost because like all these other guys are and there's such a gap but like he's gonna just end up being the guy who got ahead of it first because with kyler doing this like when bro comes back up yeah he'll be what 200
Starting point is 00:25:20 herbert herbert mvp yeah the mars already got an m. Yeah. Lamar's already got an MVP. Now, he wasn't putting a top 10 in some pool, which Orlovsky was not happy about, and a lot of people weren't. Let's ride. What a day it is, because the Talks Table has reminded themselves of how great the Let's Ride is every time we start a new hour of sports conversation.
Starting point is 00:25:41 There's some breaking news. There's some big conversation, and we will be doing that with the Talks table at Ty Schmidt and at Boston Connor. You boys look fantastic. Hey, thank you very much, Ty. Chain is shimmering today, huh? What's that? Chain's shimmering a little lighter today. Is it? I think it's
Starting point is 00:25:55 because of the tan that I got. The tan that I got has kind of changed everything. Makes the chain pop. Yeah, well, not only that, these tank tops are a different color black this week than they were before I got a little bit of tan. Really? Well, not only that, these tank tops are a different color black this week than they were before. I knew it. I got a little bit of a tan. Well, just strictly because of the skin tone next to it makes it look different.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Yeah. Same tank, new look. Okay. Same tank, different tone. There it is. Thank you, Tom. One half of the hammer. Tom!
Starting point is 00:26:22 Cowboys. And joining us now from a hotel in a sailing community, a man who won a college football national championship, a Super Bowl championship, a Ryder Cup championship. He has survived flying on private planes a couple times now. That's right. Impressive. He's also a pilot somehow.
Starting point is 00:26:39 COVID survivor. Ladies and gentlemen, Aaron James Hawk. Aaron James Hawk. Whoa. Whoa. You got a little portrait mode on here. I don't think it's funny. My daughter told me to turn it off. Did you turn it off?
Starting point is 00:26:54 Wow, Jesus. It sounds like we're not going to be able to hear you. Do you have it up and down this way? No, I wouldn't. I want to use that. I don't have a thing for it. I can do that. The audio sounds terrible.
Starting point is 00:27:03 I think you've got to move to your left. My left's over here. Yeah. Boom. Wow. No, too far left. Don't be dramatic. No, for the speakers or for the camera?
Starting point is 00:27:15 Everything right here. I think everything right here is the spot. Do not move. Why is it not following him? Hey, because he turned on the porch. Yeah. Oh, that stinks. I think that is why stinks I think that is why
Starting point is 00:27:25 I think that is why it doesn't follow you anymore But you look like you're out of a fuck You look like a You're like 8K right now You're like the dudes on Super Bowl That one camera That's what you look like right now You look good, pal, you're going to have a good day
Starting point is 00:27:40 Nice, on my end though, it looks horrendous For some reason on the split screen for FaceTime So I'm just glad, as long as it's good we're so good to go kylo murray look at him what happened oh yeah zito go ahead what is that so the feed we send him it cuts it out for some reason the macbook just cuts it out but you look absolutely amazing yeah you look amazing don't worry about it you look fantastic we're very thankful for you speaking of fantastic let's talk about the fantastic news out of the fifth largest city in America. Out of Phoenix, Arizona, Scottsdale, the most, let's say, the beautiful relationship between Kyler Murray and the Arizona Cardinals has extended for another five years. Kyler Murray, who's a quarterback that has led the Arizona Cardinals back to greatness after a couple years
Starting point is 00:28:23 of rough times, maybe even a decade of rough times. Had a quarterback named Josh Rosen. After one year, Cliff Kingsbury becomes the head coach over there and says, well, sorry about Josh, who is currently working out for the Cleveland Browns, maybe for the backup role. Get the fuck out of here. We're going to draft this guy who could go top ten in the MLB right now, and we're going to make him our franchise player.
Starting point is 00:28:43 The Arizona Cardinals have only been on a trajectory upward since Kyler Murray has been their starting quarterback, investing in the team, doing their thing, and now they're able to strike a very stable, very large contract with a quarterback and be able to build around him. Cliff Kingsbury hit an extension. Steve Kime hit an extension.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Now Kyler Murray gets an extension. They missed DeAndre Hopkins for six games, but it feels like something special is brewing out there, and congrats to all parties involved. Congrats. We know, you know, the GM told us it sounded like something was going to get done, absolutely, and we knew it had to before camp, but
Starting point is 00:29:19 were you surprised at all that the whole contract wasn't guaranteed and just 160 of the 230.5 was? Well, 160 of the 230.5 was? Well, I think the 230.5 was hilarious as I was reading it. That made me laugh. It was like that was obviously a sticking point and in the conversation, and that is just out of a movie. It feels like that's out of a movie.
Starting point is 00:29:38 But I think with the reaction of everybody, this would have been the time for quarterbacks to attempt to get all guaranteed contracts because Deshaun Watson and David Moula Gator were able to do it. But I just assumed that the card— I mean, it's like everything is being held together by like—it's all about to fall, is what I'm saying. Anxiety at an all-time high. You seem very comfortable.
Starting point is 00:30:04 You seem very comfortable you seem very comfortable when that fell your face didn't say like well that was a matter of time basically is what you said my ipad is on the verge of sitting on top of a pillow i've been trying to get this height situated yeah continue i'm sorry no no you're okay like i by the way as somebody who's had to do shows from hotels, I can understand the real struggle of not getting the thing to stay up at the right angle. And if you have different heights of things, you know, like maybe there'll be a Bible there.
Starting point is 00:30:32 You can put that thing up on top of a desk, maybe a chair. You can always do work. So I appreciate the struggle, but also how is vacation going? Pretty good. You guys having a good time? Better shit in any more boats or anything like that?
Starting point is 00:30:43 We have not been on any more sailboats to let my kids take dump in their little toilets, but it's been good, man. It's been fun. But this place like flooded last night after the show.
Starting point is 00:30:52 There's a part downtown where you go where my kids were walking. My kids were walking during the show and they got stuck somewhere in a downtown area and the water was
Starting point is 00:31:01 legit waist high, like up. As veteran said, it was past their dawn. How old's Vetter? Six. Six-year-old describing things past his dong. Vetter has shit in his sailboat.
Starting point is 00:31:14 He has experienced floods past his dong. And he drank beer. What? Specifically Budweiser. What? At a Lord Stanley Cup last week. Vetter might be a 45-year-old man next year, but I, getting back to,
Starting point is 00:31:27 by the way, we hope you're having a good time. It sounds, there's always something, by the way, with the Hawks. Good luck. When the Hawks are on the road, it's always- It's fun, man. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Four kids, traveling, doing your thing.
Starting point is 00:31:36 The family's awesome. We appreciate you. I'd assume that Burkhardt, Eric Burkhardt, who's Kyler Murray's agent, who basically pushed the envelope with this with a tweet memo talking about how fucking Cardinals, who's Kyler Murray's agent, who basically pushed the envelope with this with a tweet memo talking about how the fucking Cardinals need to pay Kyler, basically. This was two days before Steve Kime was scheduled to speak at the Combine
Starting point is 00:31:54 here in Indianapolis in March or whatever the fuck that is. I think it's in March. So then Steve Kime, Eric Burkhart, Cliff Kingsbury were all questioned about this extension. Boom, boom, boom. Cliff and Kime both said, this is Comb Boom, boom, boom. Cliff and time both said that this is combine time. Then we got fucking draft time. Then we got OTA time. We'll do this later. Send it to everybody that would listen. I assume there was some text messages
Starting point is 00:32:15 though, that were setting the table for negotiations, which they said the last couple of weeks they've been hammering it. And although this would be the time that people and quarterbacks and agents could try to capitalize on the haslam deshaun watson deal with 230 being guaranteed which is something that nfl players have been seeking since the beginning of the nfl we see every other league that does worse ratings than us that is much smaller than us and they're getting guaranteed contracts and their contracts seem to be vastly different than nfl contracts which are the biggest show in time in every time so that's how players feel so when the 230 million fully guaranteed deal happens it's the biggest contract and it's the most guaranteed contract i think every player every agent was like all right now's our time to go now's our time to go we heard the ravens ownership come out and be like uh don't think so bangles ownership who is now has 500
Starting point is 00:33:11 million dollars in repairs needed for paul brown stadium is thinking about getting a uh sponsor for the stadium they're also building an indoor facility let's go bangles this is awesome see they also came out because joey burrow is going be up. He's already made it to a Super Bowl. They're like, let's not think that's going to happen. So I wonder how much of the base conversation before the negotiation was Eric Burkhart telling Steve Kime and the Cardinals, hey, this is just where we're at. This is not our fault. This is not your fault. This is just the new way of doing business here in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:33:44 They did that in probably one-word answers from, nope, nope, we ain't doing it. fault this is not your fault this is just the new way of doing business here in the nfl they did that in probably one word answers from nope nope we ain't doing it like this is a pretty big deal because now we know what lamar's deal is going to look like now we know what joey burrow's deal is going to look like now we're gonna now we know what herbert's deal is going to look like unless mula gate that comes back and gets a 230 and a half 240 guaranteed deal it feels like the deals will get to that point at some point but not just yet aj not just yet yeah so this had to be like this is a big precedent right for the the teams now like the bangles ravens had to be very excited i wonder if they had any communication with the cardinals like hey man like whatever you do do not guarantee
Starting point is 00:34:22 this dude's whole contract because we don't want to have to guarantee our guy's contract. Imagine handwritten letters. Handwritten letters. Dearest Steve Keim, my name is Bashadi or whatever, owner of the Ravens. I've been watching you from afar for so long. The way that big bald-ass head glimmers in the desert in the team that you've been able to create is nothing short of spectacular and great for the NFL. I, for one, and I'm not the only one,
Starting point is 00:34:53 I know there's many other owners that speak up very highly about you being a general manager in our NFL. What a joy for us to have you as a general manager in our league. We will take care of you forever because of how good of a job you've done and the way you carried yourself. Your friend, Bashadi. P.S.
Starting point is 00:35:15 We take back every good thing we have ever said about you if you fucking give another fully guaranteed contract like that scumbag Jimmy Haslam and fucking Andrew Barry did in Cleveland. And then what is it? P.S.S.? Fuck you if you do that. P.S.S.S.S.S.? You can't fucking.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Wait. Mail it out there. Are they even allowed to do that? Or is that not. Would that not be. Collusion? Is that collusion? That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Like, could there be collusion? Is that collusion? That's what I'm saying. Could there be a call? They could communicate without saying it, though. Like, hey, you're working on that Kyler deal? Okay, cool, yeah. We're not going to, what do you think, maybe like 60% of a guarantee, 70%? Not 100, right? Okay, here we go. No more groundbreaking deals, right?
Starting point is 00:36:01 Okay? It's a big deal, though. No more NBA deals. No more NBA deals, right? No more MLB deals, right? Okay? We're not. It's a big deal, though. No more NBA deals. No more NBA deals, right? No more MLB deals, right? In the conversation. Cheers. Hey, here's Steve Goss.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Hey, what do you say? Yeah, I love you. Hey, we're doing that. 230 was fucking crazy. Huge deal, dude. Here's the numbers on the deal. He's getting a lot of fucking money. 230 million guaranteed is a lot of fucking money.
Starting point is 00:36:19 Kyle Murray. I mean, though, hold on. I'll let you get to it. I mean, the fact that it wasn't 230.5 guaranteed, because if he did that, then everybody else is screwed that has to pay again. One million percent, yeah. This is a precedent setter for everybody else.
Starting point is 00:36:30 It's going to get to 230 million guaranteed again, but it's going to take a little bit, a couple years. Tom Pelissero is reporting that Kyler Murray's five-year, $230.5 million extension with the Cardinals will pay him $30 million in the first year, so that's signing bonus and year one salary. Probably cash over cap. Let's go. $ that's signing bonus in year one salary probably cash over cap let's go 29 million dollar signing bonus one million dollar salary uh this particular year then that 29 will spread out over the five years so that'll be like six million so you have like a seven million dollar cap hit if we're doing the
Starting point is 00:36:57 math uh quickly properly and not 100 sure 69 million over the first two years So he's making 39 year two And 106.15 million Over the first three years of this deal Strong cash flow on a deal Negotiated by Eric Burkhardt Of Rock Nation Sports Hell yeah Throw up the rock
Starting point is 00:37:19 Eric Burkhardt getting this deal done I do appreciate the fact That the agents understand that how good they are at negotiating is certainly their worth in the world that they work in. So Eric Burkhart wanting the numbers to get out. Hey, this is what we got. This is what we did.
Starting point is 00:37:37 I would like a little bit of credit for that because that is a lot of fucking money over the next three years. It ain't 230 million guaranteed, though. How the fuck did they get that done you think uh and the guy that they paid had all these allegations against him too so it's like what are we doing here like how i don't know i i can't wait to watch that documentary as you like to say like in five ten years from now let's see the documentary of all the front office
Starting point is 00:38:01 people and the agents involved in doing that mul Mulligata, it was pretty simple. I'm just laying out how it happens. They're desperate. They were desperate. The Browns are desperate. And they might have just said. The Falcons were desperate, too. They were in a conversation.
Starting point is 00:38:13 I mean, it felt like any team that was getting into that. Apparently not desperate enough to guarantee $230 million. Well, then, man. Because I assume the Falcons, if they would have done that, he'd be a Falcon. Oh, yeah, 1,000%. And Blank was like, I'm not going to be the one. Can't do that. Jimmy Haslam will do it, though.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Jimmy Haslam, by the way, has enough money to do it because you have to put that $230 million in escrow, right? So that thing just goes into a fund that I'd assume they're able to. Oh, they're getting some points on top. Yeah, I assume the NFL in. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I assume they're able to. Oh, they're getting some points on top. Yeah, I assume the NFL. Yeah. Yeah, I assume they're able to invest and utilize, but it just has to be present at any point.
Starting point is 00:38:55 And then not every owner has the capability of doing that, I guess, is what we've been told, right? Isn't that what we've been told? Definitely not. Definitely not. If your money is from your team and not from, hey, I was a billionaire businessman and i bought this team i think it's much harder on those people yeah and that's the separation of the cash over cap teams versus other cash strap teams you know because a lot of people are billionaires which hey rich
Starting point is 00:39:16 motherfuckers oh yeah wealthy motherfuckers yes but a lot of it's for gays too because a lot of it's an asset so like yes it is technically property and value of the person of it's for gays too, because a lot of it's an asset. So like, yes, it is technically property and value of the person, but it's going to be impossible to give that Beatles drum set as compensation in NFL, you know? So like the way in stocks and investments and- You got to be liquid. You got to have that money liquid. Yeah. That's got to be before you invested or spend it on something that you still own that is definitely a part of your value but not nearly able to be used as actual compensation in the nfl that's why that walton family getting involved in the cronky with the rams all right we're shitting out cash here we go uh rob walton
Starting point is 00:40:01 going to the broncos we're shitting out cash here we go uh tepper down there in carolina well i just got the runs and it happens to be cash and he's just throwing it everywhere it's like the wealthy owners are the ones that are able to make these types of plays and good for i guess bidwell we gotta add in there right yeah sure hundred and some million guaranteed over the next he's got to put $160 million into a thing, right? Yeah. As long as Andrew Brandt explained it to us right, yeah, you have to put it in escrow. I guess the NFL is in escrow, Cal?
Starting point is 00:40:34 So he's got to have $130 million, right? Because first year is $30 million. So it would be $29 million on signing day. That money is gone. If it's $29 million, we don't know what it is. If it's $29 million, we assume it's $29 million. That money is gone. So then the $1 million salary is coming this year.
Starting point is 00:40:49 So then $130 million would then have to be put into escrow. Yeah. And old cuzzy that flew the plane to Wisconsin to pick up J.J. Watt has changed, I guess, the way that team has operated since his dad had passed away. Rest in peace. He's kind of doing things differently. He's got the money to put it up. Good for him.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Good for the Cardinals. Good for Kyler murray man he should be pumped even though it wasn't as much as deshaun watson guy do you think there's any thought from the browns and deshaun watson like hey there's two young quarterbacks in our division like we kind of almost put those teams in a spot if we do give all chess that would be close to next level yeah hey that'd be taking those hallucinogens and staring at the ceiling and then going and winning chess tournaments that's what that would be. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Let's look at all these broke motherfuckers in our division. Right? We've got a bunch of broke motherfuckers. Well, they're rich. They own a team. But these fuckers can't hang with us. Not like me. All right.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Into division. We will set the new standard on what's guaranteed. And we will also float out to their agents. This is what the guys deserve, isn't it? I mean, this is what I... If Lamar, if we would have an opportunity in Lamar, that's 300 probably. At least.
Starting point is 00:41:49 300. That's what he deserves. And there's owners out there that have it. Go ahead. Hey, Joey Burrow. They got 500 million in repairs. They're building an indoor facility. You deserve at least 300, 400 million guaranteed. Took him to a Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:42:00 There's owners out there. There's owners out there that you can go, what if that is a next-level chess play to fucking... That's playing on like psych... Psychedelics? No. You're playing on emotions there. That's like a next-level emotion play.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Oh, psychological? Yeah, it's like a psychological play against your own because you're trying to get the quarterback of another team that's very good to get pissed off at their place so that they will leave. That's like three steps ahead, psychological play right there, if that is what fucking Haslam is doing.
Starting point is 00:42:38 And Andrew Barry. Even Jimmy Haslam, a lot of credit. He drafted Johnny Manziel after a homeless man told him to. But Andrew Barry. Andrew Barry might know. Andrew Barry, Harvard quarterback. Very, very intelligent. All right, so think about this. He goes to the dry erase board, has him sitting down,
Starting point is 00:42:54 has him, he's like, give me all your ideas, please. I need two Ivy League people here. I need more and more brains around me. And Andrew Barry's like, all right, so this is the move. It's going to cost you a lot up front, but sustained success here. Think about it. This is what we're thinking. Boom, pisses off.
Starting point is 00:43:11 Boom, they leave, they leave. They got rookie quarterbacks for the next 15 years. They could never afford what we have. If we do this, they're going to come after us. Hey, it's going to be bad PR. Press conference is going to be awkward. There's going to be some public statements from other owners. They're not going come after us. Hey, it's going to be bad PR. Press conference is going to be awkward. There's going to be some public statements from other owners. They're not going to be happy.
Starting point is 00:43:28 But what we're paying for in the front, we are getting massive, massive return on the back end, playing a bunch of fucking nobody. So you tell me, Jim, is that what we want to do or not? Jimmy has like, fuck, you're right. Add 10 more million onto the guarantee to him. Fuck these guys. I'm going to get out of here. Weather the storm fuck you're right. Add 10 more million onto the guaranteed to him. Fuck these guys. I'm right out of the storm.
Starting point is 00:43:47 Everyone hates my guts already. Who cares? I don't care if they continue to the Bengals one like that legitimately does make sense. Like, hey, these guys are fucking cheapskates. OK, if we jump this up big time,
Starting point is 00:43:57 there's no way they're going to be able to do that for Joe Burrow. They just went to a Super Bowl. Get his ass out of the division. Let's do that right now. Wow. AJ, think of it. Wow, AJ.
Starting point is 00:44:05 Think of it. That was all. This is a, I'm kind of mentally fucked, but I guess this is how conspiracies are begun, right? Something that could potentially happen, but you're putting a lot of respect on somebody's brain to come up with that third, fourth level of thinking. You know what I mean, AJ? Harvard brain.
Starting point is 00:44:20 Yeah, I mean, even if the Browns, even if that wasn't their plan to start with, why not jump on the bandwagon now after they see this clip? I would. Jimmy has them going. Yeah, we knew. That's exactly what we did. I mean, owners can play in the games too.
Starting point is 00:44:33 You know, and that's kind of what I'm proving. You don't just pay, you know, players. You actually showcase an advantage. That's an advantage. That's an advantage. Football. Let's manipulate every other team's roster by what we do and how we pay certain superstars hey maybe that maybe you're onto something hey it's a real advantage walton cronky tepper i guess haslam's got fucking cake the super
Starting point is 00:44:55 rich owners now this would be in the one per club meeting where right war would take place yeah i mean it would be a full because they the nfl owners have always operated like this always everything unified hundred percent vote on every decision that is made from the nfl the owners and like sorry like one part the bears might be out or uh like one other owner and they're like well he's always against the group everybody else is it's 100 unity in every decision that is made and then there's stories that come out from the one per club meeting where people are like actually ready to kill somebody and it's like that's why they've
Starting point is 00:45:34 been able to do such good business for so long but these new owners coming in with more cake than everybody else and if your team stinks and you can see like an obvious, you know, hey, it seems like there's a little bit of a move to the top quickly. What is that? Well, we just kind of fucking dunk on everybody with our money. And then there's only us that have money that get the good quarterbacks. Nobody else really gets them. It's like, holy shit, that could happen. And from the player's perspective, like the amount of young QBs in the AFC
Starting point is 00:46:02 versus the amount of young good QBs in the NFC is pretty drastic. There's like eight or nine guys in the afc and there's like two or three i mean that's not including like rogers and brady and stafford and the older guys but just looking at like a contract that might be six years or seven or eight years that some of the young guys are signing you might be even more inclined to go to the nfc hey we're gonna find out which owners got it aj right and it's gonna directly affect a lot of things, I think. I know. Who is it? The Walton people or the new Broncos owner?
Starting point is 00:46:30 Yeah. Bob. I would imagine they will be very aggressive in trying to win football games. Yeah, I'd assume. Russell Wilson's already there, but Russell Wilson would have been on a plane there as soon as he gets. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Hey, new deal, too, by the way. You want to make another video in bed with Sierra or whatever? Go Hawks. Let's ride or whatever. Hey, Russ deal, too, by the way. You want to make another video in bed with Sierra or whatever? Go Hawks. Let's ride or whatever. Hey, Russ did a good job last night. Him and Sierra present a war. Oh, they presented a war. I saw the only person I saw was the the Hamaconda.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Honestly, I turned on, saw him talking about Dickie V, Jimmy Valvano. That was that was awesome. So that was a great moment. Unbelievable moment. How about him to Vafangul to the fucking producers? That was awesome. Yeah. And no. So they have to vaf on goal to the fucking producers? That was awesome. Yeah. And no, so they have to bleep that, right?
Starting point is 00:47:10 See, I don't know. That's not Italian TV. No, but I think you, like, I'm wondering if anybody there didn't, I don't think anybody in the back knew. Somebody knew, right? Had to. Somebody had to have known. Something happened before.
Starting point is 00:47:23 They're supposed to because it's cable. But if you don't, it only really comes down to if your sponsors care well i'm happy that they didn't yeah i'm happy that they let that thing fly because i had massive more respect for vitel obviously i think everybody after seeing a full piece about him and everything he's been through he had his head kind of open aj his head was like sliced open i had no idea that was happening he's doing through. He had his head cut open, AJ. His head was like sliced open. I had no idea that was happening. He's doing pretty damn good for what he's been through. It's crazy. Did you know he's blind in one eye? I had no idea he was like half blind in one eye.
Starting point is 00:47:52 He was stabbed by a pencil when he was a kid. And his mom... Yeah, and his mom said, big deal. Who cares? His mom was like, who cares? Let's go. He mentioned his mom, how motivating she was and how he thought about her whenever he was battling his cancer and his lymphoma and everything.
Starting point is 00:48:07 It was like, fucking A. I got nothing but love for this guy, and his house was not A. He's worked his ass off for it. He had a nice house. Nice house. Gave a shout out to the doctor who worked on his vocal cords. That dude worked on Lionel Richie and Adele and all these other people. It's pretty incredible.
Starting point is 00:48:25 I bet that guy's got some stories. I would assume. And he's saved a lot of ears and everything. What's that, AJ? Why does that guy have some stories? Some legends on there. Adele. He's worked with a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:48:37 Who else? Some of the greatest vocal chords in the history of vocal chords. Freddie Mercury? Who else? Freddie Mercury. He's a dog. What was that? You talk about performers. history of vocal chords all night long. Freddie Mercury? Who else? Freddie Mercury could, hey. He's a dog. You talk about performers.
Starting point is 00:48:50 His presence is off the charts. What's that, pal? Freddie Mercury's? Freddie Mercury's stage presence is the apex of what you want to be. I concur. Mick Jagger, right, is another one that people always talk about. I still got it. That Bohemian Rhapsody, I mean, obviously I knew the song but I didn't know the world well enough to know like what like that thing. That fucking festival.
Starting point is 00:49:11 Yeah Wembley. That shot they had it looked like that one to DMX where DMX came out and it looked like literally the entire world was stop, drop, shout it out. is that a fucking performance for 40 billion people what a moment there that crowd control had to feel so cool there for Freddie Mercury what a moment man
Starting point is 00:49:34 when he's holding the he had like the half mic half mic stand oh yeah that he figured like I wonder how much of his performance was kind of like
Starting point is 00:49:41 thought through beforehand and how much is just instincts and feeling I think he's feeling filming yeah but they also though i watched the thing don't they talk about it in that in that movie like those dudes were super tight had everything rehearsed perfectly like their timing was down pat it looks like they're just willy-nilly hey we're just having fun but they like they were super detailed i guess and how they play everything so i don't want to i don't't want to get off topic too much here,
Starting point is 00:50:05 but when Jeremy Piven told us that the Ari Gold character was script, like word for word on the script, that surprised me. Mind-blowing. Kind of what you were just talking about there with, obviously, Freddie and how they operated. They're diligent like that. Did you? I still don't know.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Doug Allen wrote it. Yeah, a lot of people wrote it, but I still don't know. Doug Allen wrote it. Yeah, a lot of people wrote it, but I had no idea either. I mean, watching it, you just assumed that a lot of it is ad-lib or that he was going multiple. So is that the greatest acting in the history of acting then? Pretty good acting. Very, very good writing.
Starting point is 00:50:38 Yeah, very good writing. Yeah, absolutely. What's that, AJ? Some of the things that they said and did, like they even have said, it makes them uncomfortable now. They wouldn't have put that in the script back then, things that they said and did, like they even have said, it makes them uncomfortable now. They wouldn't have put that in the script back then. So that's also for Piven, too. You don't want to be ad-libbing stuff that you can get canceled for.
Starting point is 00:50:53 That's a lot of shows, too. You're not thinking that in the time, though. Are you a better actor if you ad-lib or just follow the script the whole way? I think if you follow the script the whole way and it looks like you're ad-libbing, you're a great actor. And I think if you're ad-libbing the whole thing, I think you're a great actor. I think there's probably a lot of ways to go about it. Improv. It's kind of different.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Yeah, I think ad-libbing is more kind of like comedy-related. Like people who are comedic actors can ad-lib a lot better than someone who's mostly a dramatic actor. Yeah, like The Office, a lot of the lines that they do, if people bring it Yeah, they'll change the line just a little bit with their own spirit. And also, people not knowing in a comedy setting what's coming, much better for everybody. Much, much better for everybody, I'd assume. Hey, that's why Miles was fucking good, dude. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:37 Hey, Miles Teller was good. Rooster? Well, Rooster, yeah. But the offer, I felt like he was the guy. And then, what's his name? Bob Evans. Full. That guy's great.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Who is that? That's Matthew Goode, English guy, too. If you listen to him really talk, he nailed it. I haven't, the amount of speaking to direct laugh ratio for me, for a character, has been since Ari I think for the Bob Evans everything that Bob Evans guys hey come on like it just everything was so dramatic and ridiculous like I laughed every time that part even when he was going through some terrible shit yeah the way he went about saying it was like hilarious I guess that's how the guys anyways
Starting point is 00:52:23 let's get back to it hey good for Kyler Murray yeah uh dan rolovsky was supposed to join us but i guess he's got terrible internet service i guess he is just terrible internet service so they've been battling in my right ear for some time here as we're just talking about nonsense trying to figure it out uh ladies and gentlemen joining us now, the face of ESPN coming into Dan Orlovsky. Dan. Why is he outside? Go in your house.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Dan, you look like Daniel Jones at that cornhole. You look like Madden Dan Orlovsky. Dan, you look like you're a caricature right now. What's going on? What are you doing? Hey, let me fix this situation.
Starting point is 00:53:03 It's been happening for eight minutes in my ear. I've literally been hearing it. What has been going on? Are you... Where are you doing? Let me fix this situation. It's been happening for eight minutes in my ear. I've literally been hearing it. What has been going on? Where are you at? I am right near my house. Go inside. This guy, he's in a flooded city.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Two doors down. Look at him. He looks like he's on an 8K camera. Dan, I'm sorry. Are you outside? AJ looks great. He looks great. He looks 30 years old. Who? AJ. Are you outside? AJ looks great. He looks great. You look 30 years old.
Starting point is 00:53:27 Who? AJ. He does. Thank you, Dan. You look 25. He looks 90. I was going to say, Dan, hey, we should call him back. Dan, we should call you back for the good of you because AJ's looking real good right now. I'm in the best shape I've been in.
Starting point is 00:53:43 You look great, bud. I'm I've been in. You look great. We should call Dan back. You look great, bud. I'm proud of you guys. You look great. Thank you. Also, AJ. Dan, you look like you're in 420. Go inside, Dan.
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Starting point is 00:54:07 That's right. That's right. That's right. JJ, a man who drives a golf ball 400 yards. Dan Orlovsky was about to compliment you on that, by the way. Did you hear that as his terrible service was kind of breaking up? No. Where did he see me hit a golf ball? All right. Talk to the table is here at Ty Schmidt at Boston College. Does Dane have the internet other than football?
Starting point is 00:54:38 True. We don't know. He is. Blinders on. I thought his timeline is just football, football, football. Well, it might be, but they didn't put you on NBC. He didn't put him on NBC. No, he didn't put him on NBC.
Starting point is 00:54:49 What's that all about? Why do you think they didn't put you on the coverage of NBC? For what? For the American Central Championship. Oh, I don't know. Did they not put him on NBC? What was the little clip? What's the close to the pin thing?
Starting point is 00:55:01 Oh, yeah, they did put that on NBC. Yeah, that's right. That is what he saw. That is exactly what he saw. It's hard to imagine this guy getting the club around his body. Intimidating force. An intimidating force. Did you change your costume that day?
Starting point is 00:55:15 No, that was Friday. That's what I wore the whole day. You looked awesome. Yeah, the shades, I think, though, were a touch because you never wore those during any of the three rounds we played. I can't golf with sunglasses on. Yeah, me neither. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:55:24 I need to see that thing. My fault. I can't drive with them. They'd't golf with sunglasses on. I need to see that thing. I can't drive with them. They'd definitely fly off my face if I tried to drive with them. I was hitting a wedge there. Yeah, because you're so violent. Wedge, 160? 163 was the Yeah, what was 17? Is it 163? Yeah. Wedge.
Starting point is 00:55:40 It was different that day. Is that P? S? Attack? Which one? It's 54. It's a sandwich. Is that P, S, attack? Which one? It's 54. It's a sandwich. Sandwich 56, I think, right? Or is it 54, 56? All I have is 54. I don't have anything else.
Starting point is 00:55:53 And you hit that thing anywhere from 120 yards to 220 yards? No, my wedges don't go that far, but out there I could hit it. 160. This guy. I can hit 160 probably. I've never hit it straight. Do you know what a normal human hits a fucking wedge? It sounds like you have no idea.
Starting point is 00:56:07 Is everything okay in the back? Is something all right? What? No, I was looking at Colin Cowher. The TV was on mute. Someone had it on. I was just seeing if there was rankings. I was wondering if there was more rankings going on.
Starting point is 00:56:17 What are they ranking? What are they ranking right now? Top 10 quarterbacks, according to Colin. Oh, fuck. Let's do this live. Where are they right now what number and who is it well they have the top 10 out there you know you guys know the top 10 i assume okay number one patty mahomes hey that baby patrick congratulations now chris sims is on
Starting point is 00:56:39 the screen so i can't see the list but i know number two i don't even remember number two now that's all we got. What's this all about? Come on, AJ. Chris Sims. Now they're talking to Chris Sims. They took the list off. So is that Chris Sims' list or Colin Cowherd's list?
Starting point is 00:56:52 It says according to Colin, but I think he's interviewing Chris, so he's throwing to him. Can we talk about Chris Sims real quick? Son of Phil Sims, former quarterback for the Bucs and some other teams' backup quarterback. Used to be with Bleacher Report. Now he's with NBC, Football Night in America. He called us doofuses or clowns or something.
Starting point is 00:57:12 Yeah, goofball, something like that. Something like that at one point. So we had a – I don't think he said bugle boys. Somebody else did. But he said something, and we had a fake beef with him for about a week and a half, two weeks. But I think when he does quarterback rankings, the common conversation around media when Chris Sims releases his quarterback rankings
Starting point is 00:57:32 is everybody talking about how accurate he normally is with his quarterback rankings. I think he's got a couple wrong. I don't think he liked Josh Rosen at all. I think there's like a couple that he is. But I think Chris Sims' ranking of quarterbacks is one that people actually take pretty serious you know has the list here is this chris sims's list or colin cowherds oh this is colin's list okay perfect colin cowherds top 10 patrick mahomes number one josh allen number two he's a lot of people's favorite for the mvp josh allen because he hasn't won and the buffalo bills have an axe to grind
Starting point is 00:58:03 with how the season ended last year. Tom Brady, number three quarterback in the NFL. Number four, Aaron Rodgers. Let's ride to number five, Russell Wilson. Matthew Stafford at six. Joe Burrow at seven. Air Bear at eight. Kyler Murray, nine.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Derek Carr at ten. So he was trying to indicate where he thought Kyler was after the Kyler deal was announced of him getting $230.5 million total contract with $160 million guaranteed of that. There is reports coming out now from Pro Football Talk's Mike Florio that the owner not having enough money to guarantee more money,
Starting point is 00:58:44 which is what we started chatting about with potentially Haslam doing to the Bengals who have Burrow and Bashadi who has Lamar Jackson. He's basically saying that the owners for the Cardinals, the Bidwell family, might not have had enough money to put into escrow that you have to hold whenever you guarantee a deal. So when Deshaun Watson got $230 million guaranteed, I forget how much, maybe whatever it was the first year, the rest of the money has to go in. It has to be cash, has to be liquid, have to have it so that Deshaun knows he's getting it, the NFL knows you're giving it, and there's no fuckery. Now, I believe they still invest that money and it's still making money and
Starting point is 00:59:24 they're getting points off of that money, but it has to go into escrow. So this is why the richer owners have an absolute advantage in a cash over cap where you can sign a signing deal can be huge and you can prorate that over the entirety of the contract so that your salary cap hit each year is much less than what it could be in the old school, traditional way of setting up a contract. Florio's saying that maybe that was a part of this whole thing, and maybe it was, and it goes even more so to our point that, go back to Colin Coward's top 10 there. So if you go off of Colin Coward's top 10,
Starting point is 00:59:57 which is pretty similar to a lot of people's top 10, you've got Kyler at nine, Burrow above him, Herbert above him. He doesn't have Lamar Jackson on there, but Lamar Jackson up for a deal. How will the guaranteed cash flow thing come into play with these next contracts for these quarterbacks? And will it result in players having to leave teams to go hunt actual cash from the richest owners in the NFL, AJ? I mean, it could if a guy like Joe Burrow wanted to. He could be a guy that does that, right? The Bengals, we know there's no chance
Starting point is 01:00:27 they have $200 million to sit in escrow. The Bengals are their squad. That's their business. I don't know. Maybe they could find a way to get creative and hold that money, but I don't see it happening with a guy like Joe Burrow, but that's the kind of guy that could do it.
Starting point is 01:00:39 But you have to play out your whole contract. Franchise that twice. Yeah, franchise, franchise, bet on yourself, bet on yourself, and then go hit the free market, which, you know, it's tough to do. It is very tough to do when it comes to health, when it comes to betting on the future of the team, how will you play, and can you turn down $100 million guaranteed,
Starting point is 01:00:59 knowing that if you play for a couple more years on a franchise tag, there's a chance you get $300, $350 guaranteed somewhere. That's a massive decision. If Joey Burrow is looking around and he has changed his style of play, right, he has changed his style of play over the first couple years of his career, let's assume he's going to continue to not want to get killed every game, and they're stacking up the offensive line. Joey sees Tom playing until he's 40-whatever,
Starting point is 01:01:24 sees Aaron playing until whatever, sees all sees aaron playing until whatever sees all these guys playing a long long time it's like joe burrow is able to break down defenses the money's only going to go up do you bet on yourself and say a guaranteed contract of 350 4 million whenever he's up after two franchise tags or do you do hey i, I'm an Ohio kid. This has been Cincinnati. That's what the Bengals are going to hope for, right? That's what they're going to hope for in this whole thing. They've got to be laying the groundwork for that already. Don't you think with Joe's agent and the Bengals, like, hey, yeah,
Starting point is 01:01:57 I know we're not – it's not right now today, but let's just get creative and start thinking about what we're going to do with Joe when it is time for him to sign a steal. Yeah, I don't think you're able to give up a percentage of the team and do their salary cap stuff. No. Joe? Sorry, go ahead. The franchise tag all of a sudden is becoming a lot more appealing too.
Starting point is 01:02:12 That just adds to the franchise tag getting that much higher. So Aaron's 50. Uh-huh. Tyler 46.1. Yep. Deshaun 46. What are the next two? Stafford probably?
Starting point is 01:02:23 Yeah, or Josh Allen. Josh Allen. Mahomes this year, isn't he... This is like the first year of that contract where he's actually getting a lot of money. Franchise tag is not top five of worth. It's top five of salary. Salary, I think.
Starting point is 01:02:36 It's not annual worth. I think it's actual salary. That's why the bonuses are not involved in the franchise tag. So this might actually fuck the franchise tag. Making it lower? Yeah, Deshaun Watson's making one million this year. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:49 Tyler Murray's about to make one million this year. Might actually fuck the franchise. Cap hit for this year. Tana Hill's 38. Mahomes is 35. Cousins is 31. Goff is 31.
Starting point is 01:03:00 Something else just fell in a flooded city of A.J. Hawk sitting there off his desk probably. it is a nightmare. And that thing he drinks every day? Ass. Yeah. Really?
Starting point is 01:03:09 You hear me? Tastes like inside. It is ass, that thing. Okay. Okay. Why did you ask me? Then why did you come back to it like seven times? Three times.
Starting point is 01:03:20 And it's because I was way too high and I was trying to get a little energy. And I was told that. And every time I took a sip out of it, I just assumed he didn't dilute it enough. Three times, and it's because I was way too high, and I was trying to get a little energy, and I was told that. Every time I took a sip out of it, I just assumed he didn't dilute it enough. Like, oh, he just put too much powder in this thing. Yeah, normally I have ice. Normally there's ice and everything, but out there, you know, we're just weighing it.
Starting point is 01:03:40 I'm very impressed that you care about your body enough to drink that all day, every day, though. That thing does not taste good at all. I drink it because it tastes good. I drink it because I told you when I was out there, I like a change that was a different it tastes different out there but it's a change up especially when you're when you're smoking cigars you need something every once in a while a little sweet every once in a while to mix it up okay i got it so maybe i need to just beat down my mouth a little bit with some cigar taste and then i would want that i would imagine you have a similar thing though with the the dope no the dope tastes like lemons like it's all that stuff it's good it's the good stuff
Starting point is 01:04:10 especially out there at altitude oh yeah delicious it was awesome anyway so it's the top five salaries of the position that you're in average and then that becomes the franchise deck so it's still a lot of fucking money let's not get crazy and then it bumps up what tax. So it's still a lot of fucking money. Let's not get crazy. And then it bumps up, what, 20% or 25% for year two, I think? Okay, so if it's salary, average salary, Aaron's at 50, Kyler's 46, Deshaun 46. No, that's average. That's not salary, right? It says average salary. Really?
Starting point is 01:04:38 Aaron's getting $50 million as a contract this year, salary contract? Average salary. That's a salary cap hit? It's $50 million? No, 28. It's a salary cap hit. Yeah's $50 million? No, $28. It's a salary cap hit. Yeah, I think that involves the signing bonus.
Starting point is 01:04:49 That's just the average of the entirety of the thing. I think. I might be wrong. Smotrak might have already updated the franchise tax if that deal affects it at all, too. I got franchise tax.
Starting point is 01:04:59 I was not necessarily pumped about it, but I'm getting a millionaire, so I'll fucking sign it. Here we go. I'll give it a thing. There are no bonuses. What's that, pal? Guaranteed money.
Starting point is 01:05:08 Yeah, it's guaranteed cash. I was young. I was dumb, but it leaves out all the bonus money that people sign for. It's just strictly off salary. Unless they change it since I got franchise tagged. So, like, people, kickers will sign with, like, signing bonuses and, like, a guaranteed money. It's like, yeah, well, the signing bonus doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:05:23 He's actually making $1.5 million this year. It's like, what the fuck? No, he's making $6 million. I'm better than that guy. I'm fucking better than that guy. What are we talking about? I'm not doing that. You are.
Starting point is 01:05:33 It is guaranteed money. All right, fuck it. You're right. Where's the pen? I'm going to Canada to celebrate with Nick. That was a great time. Let's talk about some more news. Kyle Rudolph has signed a one-year deal with the Buccaneers,
Starting point is 01:05:45 a Minnesota legend. He was at SmackDown in Minnesota. There was a Rudolph chant from the crowd. Obviously, he played great for the Vikings for a long time. I don't know if he's from Minnesota originally. I'm not sure. Went to the Giants. Didn't work out.
Starting point is 01:05:59 Now he's with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who lost Rob Gronkowski. I think they still have Cam Brate, and they have all their weapons. Tom Brady reloading. Is this his final season? And are you happy for old Rudolph down there in Tampa Bay? Well, you would think it's Tom's last season, but, I mean, probably not. I don't know. Whether he wins or he finds a way to get close and not win at all,
Starting point is 01:06:21 I still could see Tom coming back if he stays healthy. But Rudolph, what a good signing. I'm learning of this for the first time. I think it's awesome. First off, I'm a fan of Rudolph and how he plays. A giant freak athlete, though. For people that don't know, I've never seen this guy or played against him.
Starting point is 01:06:35 I played against him. What is he, 6'6"? Big guy. Great tats. Jacked. Super smart. Very athletic. Great feet. Great hands. Perfect signing for Tim. I love it for him. But why not? I mean, I love it for him. I hope he can go there and get a rig.
Starting point is 01:06:48 And he'll be splitting reps, right? So that's probably even better for him at this stage of career, enjoy himself. And if he gets a ring, let's fucking go, Rudolph. Yeah, they still got Cameron Braid, who kind of is more so the receiving tight end, you assume, now, with Kyle Rudolph kind of being like a road grader because he's unbelievable in the run game, too.
Starting point is 01:07:04 I think, yeah, Rudolph, yeah, they'll use grader because he's unbelievable in the run game, too. I think. Yeah, Rudolph. Yeah. Well, they'll use him. They're going to try to write Gronk, right? They're going to try to figure out that Rudolph could be Gronk. I'm not saying that.
Starting point is 01:07:14 That'd be rude to both parties, I think. But that that makes me believe that Gronk is done. See, I was just going to say, like, that doesn't necessarily mean the door's closed on that. Do you think it is? Like, I mean, just because they get him right now, who's to say that week 13 or whatever, they're not just like, yeah, fuck it, let's bring Gronk back too. How about everybody around Gronk saying he's coming back, by the way? What's that all about?
Starting point is 01:07:36 What's that all about, you think? What if Gronk went to Green Bay? How sweet would that be? If he came to Indianapolis, how fucking awesome would that be? I could see him going to Buffalo before any of those places. No, Buffalo kicked him out. Remember, he had to be a graduate from a Western Pennsylvania high school. That's right.
Starting point is 01:07:51 So Buffalo said, we don't even want you here. Go to Pittsburgh, pal. And he did. So why not? Why not never go to Buffalo? Hey, I agree. Could you imagine him going to Buffalo? Josh Allen gets him.
Starting point is 01:08:01 Oh, my. Dawson Knox. Yeah, him and Knoxie. And O.J. Howard now. He said Tom Brady's his quarterback in one interview, and then he said, who's another guy? Maybe that Joe Burrow guy. I like that Joe Burrow guy in Cincinnati.
Starting point is 01:08:14 But I think Josh Allen is somebody you would all say, the whole family up there in Buffalo is saying, come on, come on, help us out. Bill's mafia. Oh, they would lose their shit if Rob Gronkowski was a Buffalo Bill. And he plays well in the cold, even though he might not want to anymore. Sure. But I think we should take Gronk at his word.
Starting point is 01:08:35 He doesn't want to play anymore. You know? And, well, also, my biggest thing with Gronk going back to Buffalo, Gronk would finally see a player pick up one of the Bildos and spike it after he scores a touchdown. Gronk would acknowledge the Bildo out there. Definitely. He-os and spike it after he scores a touchdown. Gronk would acknowledge the build-o out there. Definitely. He'd probably punt a few back, and then he'd spike one maybe. Yeah, maybe he has two of them, and he just like –
Starting point is 01:08:53 he's like throwing them like grenades. Throwing them back. Why is he shaking them so hard? Well, he's not meaning to. Yeah, they are shaking his arm. Because although – it's like a bow flex. Exactly. Some of those build-os's like a bow flex. Exactly. Some of those buildos are like a bow flex.
Starting point is 01:09:07 You know, the one Randy Johnson trained with when he took the bird's head off? Yep. Those things come down there and it's like, you never know where the arm of dildo is headed. And it's like, and Gronk's like, get this out of here. I got to block somebody.
Starting point is 01:09:20 I'm happy the COVID buildo is no longer a worry of any of ours. Let's have a moment of silence for the time in which we had to worry about COVID. What do you mean? Joe Biden got COVID? Is it not a thing? I don't think he got it from a build-up. Not from getting hit in the face with a build-up. Hopefully. I don't think it was from
Starting point is 01:09:35 touchdown. How many documented cases came from a build-up to the face? Too many. Well, we were just the ones, we were really the only ones looking out for it. Thinking that it could be a problem. Because if the build-up – remember at one point it was on cardboard boxes. You couldn't look at each other. COVID would go.
Starting point is 01:09:52 So we just assumed the next step was if a build-up gets shot into the field up there that is obviously called – Something's in the stadium. New Era. New Era. There was Mafia at home, new era's field that gets in there and a player accidentally grabs bildo because they don't want to roll their ankle on balls part of it or the shaft part of it right and they grab it they don't wear gloves they're old school you know maybe even with gloves you
Starting point is 01:10:19 never know because people lick the gloves covid could a gloves. COVID could, a COVID-covered buildup could have killed an NFL player. And we were really the only people that were talking about it for some time. It feels like that is no longer something that needs to be chatted about. So I'd like to give us a fucking way to go. I'd like to give us an attaboy for looking out for things that nobody else is looking out for. Just like through the entire COVID thing, and obviously we're called a lot of the names by people that don't necessarily enjoy the show we're the only ones that every time
Starting point is 01:10:48 somebody got coveted we said we hope they survive yeah and when are they going to be back everybody else was a breaking news out for 12 days uh this player can't play next game and it's like well do you care if they survive or is this just becoming like a protocol tweet on this it feels like you're thinking that there's no chance of death or no chance of something terrible happening what are you minimalized wait wow what are you doing to covet also we never did that aj did we from the from the jump that's so i i give you a lot of credit for that because it's true everyone else reported as like a a football or a sports thing like an injury oh he's got upper body he's gonna be out 12 days like no, COVID is about COVID,
Starting point is 01:11:26 not about how long the person is going to be out of the game. The reason why not playing is because there's a chance it could spread to kill somebody. How come we're not even talking about that? And we got desensitized to it all, and when we look back on it, I think we'll have a much greater respect for how we covered it all. I think so.
Starting point is 01:11:43 You know what I mean? I think we have a pretty healthy respect for how we covered it all. I think so. You know what I mean? We have a pretty healthy respect for how we covered it right now, but even more so five years from now. And I like the way you used healthy there, because I feel like with the social distancing that we did, and we dove through the numbers more than anybody else. We did. Fucking good for us.
Starting point is 01:12:00 How did we not win an Emmy, especially after watching some award show with the way we covered it? Go ahead, Tom. Fucking good for us. How do we not win an Emmy, especially after watching some award show with the way we covered this? Yeah, I had a bullet to probably. Go ahead, Tom. I was thinking, since you said, could this be Tom's last year, okay? There's a guy out there who's available for trade who's been Tom's backup before, who would provide some insurance this year in case Tom gets hurt and then provide for the future.
Starting point is 01:12:21 Blaine Gabbert is a dog. Bruce, that whole crew loves blaine gabbert but maybe jimmy g to tampa bay is what digs wants to pivot into a conversation for because the san francisco 49ers and jimmy g's representation have formally re-announced a situation that we thought has been happening for some time that maybe just cooled off he can seek a trade partner we started putting up some fairy tale trades that could take place. What if the Giants traded for Jimmy G and traded Daniel Jones over to the Niners? There'd be no issue with the locker room expecting Daniel Jones to start over Trey Lance.
Starting point is 01:12:54 You have a good backup that isn't anywhere near as expensive as Jimmy G. And you got Trey Lance, the locker room, and the team. Maybe the Panthers. They'll spend $45 million in quarterback contracts. Maybe Jimmy G could be the guy for him. There a lot of different cleveland browns maybe they make a play but all signs and roads lead to them having to cut jimmy g i don't know how they have any leverage other than people thinking that they want to get him before the seattle seahawks steal jimmy g but maybe tampa bay is a place that if he does get released, they kind of get in the ballgame and say, hey, this is what we got. We'd like to have you here because our future is in doubt.
Starting point is 01:13:31 That Jimmy G situation is very fascinating. And I wanted to ask Orlovsky's thoughts on it. What do you think happens, AJ? Because I don't think the Niners have any leverage at this point at all, especially since they've come out and said like, hey, Trey Lance is the guy. So you know what I mean? Like, I don't know. I don't know what the leverage is there, AJ. I don't think they have much. I don't think they're going to be able to trade him. Like how, I don't know what you do with as far as his health and his arm and everything. And then figuring out that's why I think Seattle is an opera is a possibility, isn't it? Because he gets cut. Seattle could pick him up. They obviously won't trade him Seattle in the division, but the tampa bay thing if jimmy has options though let's say he could
Starting point is 01:14:08 possibly go to seattle he could go to tampa bay he would have i don't know don't you think he wants to play right away i don't i doubt jimmy would choose to sit a year but he would have to know that have a really good feeling that tom may be gone after a year if he does go to tampa jimmy could only be a backup quarterback by by the way, to what, like Tom, Aaron? You know? Yeah. The Saints. You think the Saints are going to get in the game for Jimmy G?
Starting point is 01:14:31 No, they already have two main quarterbacks, don't they? Do you agree with my take about the Niners not being able to bring Jimmy G back now because of the way everything has gone? Because team building, basically? Like, the guys have to know who the guy is. And if Trey Lance has a bad first quarter of the way everything has gone because team building basically like the guys have to know who the guy is and if trey lance has a bad first quarter of the season how do you stop the players in a locker room who know like just from going hey i don't know how many years i got left this guy's not doing it we got a guy in the building that we're fucking paying that's here every single day that everybody likes put him in i think that's a real thing i believe it's a real
Starting point is 01:15:01 thing i might be wrong though you're i think you're 100 right and it's also a real thing. I believe it's a real thing. I might be wrong, though. I think you're 100% right, and it's also a real thing with the coaching staff. You know coaches have their choices, too, and who they want in the game. So I guarantee you, like, D coordinator, defensive coaches, like they see whoever's in there and trade. Like they lose a couple games. They see a couple three and outs, and they're looking over their guys. They're like, they don't say anything. Like, oh, I wonder what Jimmy's doing back there.
Starting point is 01:15:23 Okay, here we are. How come we can't put – and this this goes this happened at the colts not at the quarterback uh position which is obviously the most important position on team but a running back we had boom heron oh yeah fucking loved boom loved him we had uh i forget else we had another running back that i'm forgetting such a fun positive dude dude, too, man. I like Boom a lot. I fucking love Boom. Trent Richardson.
Starting point is 01:15:47 Still love Boom. Hard head. Very hard head, too. We traded for Trent Richardson. We traded for Trent Richardson. That was crazy. That whole situation. Yes.
Starting point is 01:15:55 I'd say first rounder, we traded for him. Our team was good, too. And Boom was moving. Like, Boom was, he's normal. Special teams and, like, making great plays for our offense. Trade for Trent Richardson and won overall. So we all kind of understand what that means. Boom understood what that meant.
Starting point is 01:16:14 But then four, five, six, seven games go by, and there isn't much happening because he's getting dropped into a new playbook, whatever the reasoning is. And everybody in the room is like, what the fuck? Can we not just go back to this guy? I understand he didn't draft him high or give up. Like, that happens. That happens at every position.
Starting point is 01:16:31 It happening at the quarterback position would divide an entire squad, I think. It would divide an entire team. And I know John Lynch knows that too, right? And Shanahan, they know that. They know that. But also, I guess, if we do see Jimmy G go back there for some reason they're the only ones that have been there every day and they know that those guys have the personalities to possibly handle it too true that's going to be tough though for a human just
Starting point is 01:16:54 any human in the building equipment manager athletic trainer you know chef like uh no way just like a little all we'll take is what one sly like hey you should be in there and then jimmy just saying yeah i should in front of somebody that is like a trade guy and then all of a sudden you got a little you got like uh sparks boom there it is just easy as that it just happens because everybody has egos everybody has feelings and jimmy g is the consummate professional it's felt like through this whole process trey lance has been able it's handled it perfectly. And maybe, after everything we've heard, maybe we're
Starting point is 01:17:28 wrong. Maybe Lynch and Shannon will come out and say, actually, we're going to give Jimmy G another year. Trey Lance will have another year of learning behind Jimmy G and they're off and running. I don't think they'll be able to just switch. Hey, Trey Lance is now the starter. Jimmy G is getting paid more. Has much longer,
Starting point is 01:17:44 better resume. Is going to be sitting behind him in a locker room that he has already had to win over as a starter in the past. I just don't know how you pull it off. Maybe I'm too mentally weak and too dumb to figure it out. Can Jimmy go back to the Niners at this point? In his mind, you think? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:00 They've already pretty much said we're done with you. I doubt he wants to. Kittle has come, and Kittle's a huge Jimmy G guy, but Kittle has come out and said, like, one, he has shades of, you know, Josh Allen and stuff, but two, also the only way you can find out is if he actually plays a goddamn game, Mike. It's a fascinating situation with $24.2 million out there. I mean, he's, yeah, Jimmy wants to start.
Starting point is 01:18:22 Hopefully his arm is okay. But who is Trey Lance's backup if Jimmy's not there? Well, that's why the. Nate Sudfeld. That's right. Which he did get. That's right. Sudfeld can sling the rock.
Starting point is 01:18:33 He can. And I assume Shanahan doesn't give a fuck. Hey, if we get a backup in, guess what we're doing? You see what we did with Jimmy G in one of the playoff games? Remember. Threw the ball six fucking times. Yeah. They had a little bit of a beat hard, right?
Starting point is 01:18:43 That came in there. He's in Jacksonville. Bethard. Fucking Beth in there and was done. He's in Jacksonville. Beathard. Fucking Beathard. CJ, right? Yeah. Yeah. He's in Jacksonville.
Starting point is 01:18:49 Nick Malz is down there too, I think. What if this is the stage of his career there where he's going back to being a backup again, even though he's led the team deep into the playoffs? Probably should have. Yeah, that's the thing. NFC Championship last year. Super Bowl, what, two, three years ago?
Starting point is 01:19:02 NFC Championship a couple years ago too? Yeah. It doesn't make any sense for him to be like, yeah, you know what, just went to the NFC Championship. I want to be a backup. So they just had to reannounce the sale that's going on. Hey, by the way, still able to negotiate a trade if anybody's out there.
Starting point is 01:19:17 We thought maybe Houston, but Dougie Mills, they're going to give him an opportunity with how well he performed. Does he want to go to Houston? If they trade, is it his choice? No, it it's not he can't really do much about it but they've said they want to take care of him though they want to do right by him right because casario was up in new england casario was a part of drafting jimmy maybe casario is like uh if we can get jimmy g we will do that But then that kind of goes against all the conversations about Dougie Davis Mills, who impressed everybody, right?
Starting point is 01:19:49 I mean, Davis Mills impressed fucking everybody. You're cutting away from your guy potentially becoming a guy by taking Jimmy G and putting him in there because Jimmy is a made man at this point. This motherfucker's a made man. He comes into a building, he's going to start. And that's why the Niners, Trey Lance, Jimmy situation is so confusing and why all roads lead to them just cutting him. All roads seem to lead to start. And that's why the Niners, Trey Lance, Jimmy situation is so confusing and why all roads lead to them just cutting him.
Starting point is 01:20:07 Yeah. All roads seem to lead to that. If it was a trade, honestly, I think someone said the Saints earlier, but the Saints would make sense too just because they cleared all that cap space so they have it because they're in the running for Deshaun Watson. And then if they run into a situation like last year that just happened where they had a great start with Jameis Winston, he gets hurt and their whole season goes to shit. Andy Dolan's there.
Starting point is 01:20:28 Andy Dolan's there? They got those new uniforms, too. They got the Florida Lee on the deep V. The Florida Lee. Black helmets. Oh, yeah. Down there in the bayou. Drew Brees started a pickleball league. Uh-oh. Yeah, Drew Brees, maybe he made an
Starting point is 01:20:43 investment into a professional pickleball program. Is he commentating for it too? I just bought some pickleball rackets. I'm pretty pumped. This is a new stage of life here. Pickleball stage is a new stage of life. It's like a country club stage, but more athletic.
Starting point is 01:20:58 Where we went on vacation, there was like six courts and it looks fucking awesome and they're also putting six courts in a park right by my house. I said, I'm going to fucking pickleball. And you don't have to run much, I don't think. No, no you're standing on it's like ping pong kind of tennis kind of it's small tennis which is nice ping pong no no no like you're standing on the court you're not you're standing on the table
Starting point is 01:21:16 yeah it's not you gotta move much you don't have to move much right it's not that much a lot of old white it's the size of a uh cock shuttle uh court okay badminton what shuttlecock shuttlecock he's talking a cock shuttle though i couldn't even imagine what went through your brain when he said that you saw a train of cocks just coming by what's the cock show well that's in your head i assume you're imagining one right now because he said uh shuttlecock backwards but did you just in your head have 45 penises standing on a train that was just kind of door was opening and going back and forth? Is that what it was at a bus? Did they hop on a bus like a shuttle to get from one?
Starting point is 01:21:56 What did you think immediately upon hearing cock shuttle? Because he corrected himself and you still went, what was that? Because I think your brain was still piecing together the train of penises that was going through from one ear to the other. Well, I mean, at first, no, I did not have this in my brain of all the train of penises going from left to right. But as you, you know, when you lay it out like that,
Starting point is 01:22:18 then you absolutely painted a picture in my mind. All right, let me get on the cock shuttle. Did go down, Talk some dick. It is a very, I didn't know it was this small. I thought you could hit it off of walls and stuff. Paddle ball. Racket ball. There's a game just like that called paddle.
Starting point is 01:22:36 I thought it was the same thing. I've never played pickleball. I played that paddle ball game once. It's very small. Paddle ball is tennis court, but fenced in, right? No, paddle ball is just the... Oh, you're talking... Sorry, I was talking about racquetball. I don't know what paddle ball is.
Starting point is 01:22:50 Yeah, paddle... I thought pickleball was paddle ball, I think, in my head. I thought they were the same thing. And then there's paddle ball I played once. I assumed it was the same. There's like a hard rubber ball. You played it in the winter outdoors. There's chain walls and everything.
Starting point is 01:23:03 You hit it off the wall and all that. Can you put that picture back up? So they're using tennis racket-looking things mixed with ping pong paddles. Like a wiffle ball, kind of. And that's a tennis ball? Yeah, what is it? It's like a wiffle ball kind of thing. Yeah, a little heavier than a wiffle ball.
Starting point is 01:23:17 So can you just blast that guy right in front of you with that thing? Oh, yeah. You want to be up at the net volleying when you're playing pickleball. Is there bounce? No bounce? Yeah. One bounce, is it? I mean volleying when you're playing pickleball. Is there bounce? No bounce? Yeah. One bounce, is it? I mean, there's not a lot of bouncing happening.
Starting point is 01:23:28 What are the lines? So it's like volleyball, back and forth, over, up? It's above ground? It doesn't bounce very high. I mean, there was just a fucking awesome flash deal on Amazon. You can put a nice spin on it, too. That I fucking took advantage of while I was watching these people play. And where do you serve?
Starting point is 01:23:42 You serve from the back there, the back line? Yeah, I believe you serve from where you would on a tennis court. And you have to go cross court? Yeah. It looks like that light blue is a non-volley zone. Pop the picture up. Yeah, so you can't play the net right up there, but you can still. Oh, so you can't step in that little.
Starting point is 01:24:00 Oh, really? That's what it looks like right now. So in volleyball, that would be like the 10-foot line, which is where you're trying to fucking go.'re trying to go early there that that'd be drop shot city then i'm taking that thing straight cross court short side right there right now is that the that's the strategy yeah that's the nuts right there you do that that shot right there that would be the it looks like that's the shot that was being tried over here that she's returning as well just not enough little sides.
Starting point is 01:24:25 You said you can spin that? You said you can put a spin on that thing? When I've seen people play, they spin the hell out of that ball. I know I would. Not you wanted. Just like in ping pong. You spin it just like a ping pong ball. Pickle ball.
Starting point is 01:24:39 This is what Drew Brees is fucking owning. This league right here. So off the serve, it has to bounce. Is it a full tennis court or is there pickleball courts? There's pickleball courts, yeah. So where are those at? When I was on vacation, there were some, and they're building some in the park right next to my house.
Starting point is 01:24:55 Is this like a field hockey lacrosse thing? This is getting very popular right now, like very, very popular. Could put it at the Thunderdome. We just put it within the court, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. You could do that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:07 I was even thinking. Hey, I did that. Pat, I am currently right now building a sport court in my house, a full sport court deal with the Jordan logo on the front, and I have it lined for pickleball, but I've never played, but I was like, I feel like I'll eventually want to play, so I got it lined up. Nice. Outside? Outdoors.
Starting point is 01:25:23 Outdoors. I think like our knees, pickleball is a good sport for us. Oh, yeah. Yeah, my oldest brother plays a lot and he loves, he's obsessed. I've never played, but I think it's something
Starting point is 01:25:32 that I could excel at. All right, we're going to get in a pickleball just like Drew Brees. Let's do it. Let's go to a break. 34 minutes in an hour, three. Is that Ryan who plays pickleball? My oldest brother, Burke.
Starting point is 01:25:42 Ryan, middle brother? Yeah. Your youngest? Yep. Ryan beatbrother? Yeah. Your youngest? Yep. Ryan beat the fuck out of Lake Tahoe. It was nuts. It was vicious. Every morning.
Starting point is 01:25:53 Yeah. He won fucking 12 rounds of Tahoe, and he won. Yeah. I mean, the inside of his arms were bleeding after he went swimming. People were talking about Tahoe being low. You know why? Because Ryan Hart was fucking splashing water out of the lake. As he was beating the shit out of that thing.
Starting point is 01:26:11 What a legend. He's a good guy, dude. Good dude. I agree. I appreciate it. He and my older brother. I was the youngest of three. So, yeah, I chased them around my whole life.
Starting point is 01:26:21 It doesn't kill or be killed. Or just be killed. Until you get a little bit bigger. Well, my oldest brother, I still would never mess with him, but yeah. Since your skull has become thicker than everybody else's. His hands are like bear paws, and he's just quiet, doesn't care. And when he punches me in the arm, it, like, knocks me back 12 feet. Hey, how about when Vrabes, hey, how about Vrabes?
Starting point is 01:26:50 How about Vrabes trying me on that? Hey, that was an awesome moment. We should tell this story here before we get to a break. So in the tent after the rounds at the American Century Championship, you know, I'm lumbering around because my feet hurt so bad, grabbing some food, trying to figure out when we're leaving, how we're leaving, where everybody's going. There are some women and men on the driving range
Starting point is 01:27:14 after the round next to the tent while hitting more shots trying to get better for tomorrow. It's like, what are you doing? I don't know how you're doing. So it ended up with me standing a lot near like where the water was and where the coffee was. Because I just wanted to see other people make decisions. And then I'll go, if we're going to sit down, I'm going that way. It's a pretty far walk.
Starting point is 01:27:36 If we're going to leave, I'm going that way. It's a pretty far walk. So this was a pretty good spot for me just to kind of hang. And there's a lot of people coming and talking to me. It was nice. Vrabes comes flying in his head and neck are just straight up straight up fucking straight I've never it is fucking hilarious out of a movie what would an Ohio meathead look like well you definitely just put his head and neck on top of his shoulders and it would just be like a fucking bucket is on there yeah that's Vrabes has a and neck on top of his shoulders, and it would just be like a fucking bucket is on there. Yeah, that's, Vrabes has a bucket on the top of his head.
Starting point is 01:28:08 He comes flying in afterwards, and he just got done golfing. Looks like, by the way, just fucking. Yolked. Absolutely stacked. May or may not had a dip in, so that adds a little extra hilarious, you know, kind of feel when he comes up. First time chatting with him, I think, in real life ever, maybe. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:28:29 Maybe games. No, he's never coached when I was there. No. First time maybe ever I think I ever talked to him. Great conversation. Talked about golf a little bit, moved on. Asked me where I was from. I said Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 01:28:41 I took a direct shot at Ohio. You know, I said, are you like this Ohio fuck? a direct shot at ohio you know i i mean i said are you like this ohio fuck and i ask a question you know and i saw like maybe his ears perk up a little bit about me burying ohio he found out i was from pittsburgh so we're just talking having a convo and then out of nowhere i see this fucking if you're gonna be a bear be a grizzly bear paw fucking come from his like pocket to check me on like check me on the shoulder and i'm obviously at a altitude that is higher than everybody else but since the oculus game i saw said left bear paw coming and in the moment it was like time was standing still i'm like oh he's trying me right
Starting point is 01:29:19 now this guy is this is going to be a thing So I flex and lean in and he wrapped his fucking arm from tit to shoulder blade. I wrapped his hand around my thing and he tried to see like, like if I was just going to get bodied by him. Stuck in there, you know, stuck in there. Didn't budge. Maybe a little bit of a rock. Are you okay? You know, like a full one of those. And then this conversation continued i'm like
Starting point is 01:29:45 oh he would have he would have judged me forever for what happened right oh yeah if i fucking fall if i full fall down there i don't think we're ever getting braves on this show ever you know what i mean like i i felt that in the moment might have been wrong might have been right you were there right for that he fucking took that thing it was like he was getting off of like a block he was trying to shed a block and i think it's we're talking about him fighting and practice and everything and then he was like this motherfucker it felt like he was like like that was my audition for whether or not he's ever gonna talk to me the most ohio thing of all time was i was i reading the situation right or not i feel like i passed the test there.
Starting point is 01:30:26 I think you definitely would have passed. I don't think he looked at it as like a test. I think it's just kind of what he does. And you also did your – you got in your stance as a left tackle and showed his son, who's going to be a rookie for the Atlanta Falcons, your kick slide multiple times. Well, I let him know, like, hey, listen, I've been around the block a little bit. I know your dad's in the league. You know, offense and defense side of the ball.
Starting point is 01:30:44 He's a coach and he's a technician and everything. If you ever need any tips, you say, I got you. I got you if you need it. And then I think Vrabes told me, you know, Paul's coming right to your sternum right there. And then just like what Cam Hayward did to me, just walk me right into a brick wall. Aiden Hutchinson, I got him.
Starting point is 01:31:04 He picks up 15, 20 yards on Aiden Hutchinson. He ran around the hoop. Washed him down. We were fucking coming right inside there, pal. I don't know what to tell you, Aiden. Sorry about it. You'll learn the league someday. You'll learn the league someday.
Starting point is 01:31:15 My kick slide, I had broken feet too. I'd walked 36 holes. I think you have a great kick slide. Thank you. I get made fun of by every offensive lineman I do in front of. 54. How about
Starting point is 01:31:26 Braves son though? Three days in. Braves son's a big fucking guy. He's like 6'6", whatever, big old O-line and played at Boston College.
Starting point is 01:31:34 And I know you're just staring at him. You know how you stare at people and look at Braves like in all of them. He's from Ohio. He grew up in
Starting point is 01:31:41 Ohio and Braves instantly born and bred. Yeah, yeah. Because he went to Boston College in my, was he at New England? You know, where's this guy born and raised? I'd like to just, before I speak to this guy, I would like to know exactly who I'm talking to.
Starting point is 01:31:54 Is this an Ohio guy? Born and bred. Okay. So this guy's a dog. Why didn't you sign him? You know what I mean? Hey, Braves, what happened? Artie got him instead.
Starting point is 01:32:02 He's a big fucking guy though. Jesus. Big guy. And he's an Ohio guy. I assume he He's a big fucking guy, though. Jesus. Big guy. And he's an Ohio guy. I assume he's going to have a 15-year career. I just assume that. Probably. Yeah, it's crazy seeing him there.
Starting point is 01:32:11 I used to work out with Braves when his kids were, like, my kids' age. So that's how I remember them. And then I see him now. I'm like, geez, you're not only a grown adult, you're going to the NFL. I don't want to say it, but people were saying it, so I'll say it. This is just from sources, not from my direct eyes. Sure sure there was a chance at some point at the american century championship rabes had a dip in was smoking a cigarette and hit a vape yeah from what i there was a chance that's what people were saying i didn't see it i didn't see it myself yes but i'm just telling you
Starting point is 01:32:41 what the stories that were lingering to our group had made it. This guy had a dip in with a cig and then for some reason after a shot pulled a vape out of his pocket and hit him like almost at the same time and said, this guy is awesome. This is football guy through and through. MC DC kind of took his thunder on being like, hey, you know, Vrab's a good fucking coach. Coach of the year. This guy's the NFL coach of the fucking year. Allegedly, after each round, he would throw out an empty pack of Marlboro Light cigarettes that were bundled up that was fresh back at the beginning of the round.
Starting point is 01:33:11 But again, can't confirm. See, I heard that that was fresh back at the back nine. Ah, okay. The stores are just getting around. Yeah, stores are getting around. Vrab's going to have to clear the air at some point. Exactly. I would like to let other show hosts know that I don't know
Starting point is 01:33:25 if you're going to pass the big mitt. Is this guy a bitch or not? Test that Braves certainly delivered to me. And his pause. Yeah. Good luck, Greeny.
Starting point is 01:33:38 Mike Greenberg. Hey, Braves. Rappaport. Go ahead. No, Ian Rappaport. What if he did that to Ian? Well, he almost did, right? At that one practice.
Starting point is 01:33:48 Get him off the fucking field. Isn't that what he said? Gave him a noogie. Vacation. Like, you guys miserable down there? Or is there some good times? Everything you described. Flood.
Starting point is 01:33:58 Poop on a boat. Things falling around. Kids running around. Do you think this doesn't happen at home? I mean, it's all the same stuff that happens at home It's just different spots So you just pick it up and take it on the road Hey let's take the Hawk House on the road
Starting point is 01:34:11 Hell yeah But yeah it's cool You could take the kids to some garbage Small thing four minutes away If there's a pool there That's the best vacation of their life They don't care So why'd you go all the way to South Carolina Well because there's other pool there, that's the best vacation of their life. They don't care. So you chose Charleston?
Starting point is 01:34:25 So why'd you go all the way to South Carolina? Well, because there's other stuff to do, too. Hey, if it was my choice, I would. But, kid, we could just sneak into the Marriott indoor pool and not pay any money. Whoa, whoa. Marriott's on the hot seat. Okay. What'd they do?
Starting point is 01:34:38 Well, I believe they're taking money from a certain place. No! Unless it's a different spell on a Marriott. They got hotels all over the world. There's a lot of that conversation happening in my mentions, and obviously I directly called for it, I guess, with the high-horsing segment. But that thing is going to continue to go.
Starting point is 01:34:56 Oh, yeah. Florio said, what if Saudi Arabia wants to start another football league? The NFL will be in trouble? It's like, just give a guy $160 million guaranteed. There's guaranteed contracts. Seems like a little bit of a different situation than what was going on in the PGA
Starting point is 01:35:11 where they weren't paying anybody any guaranteed money and they weren't paying for travel or anything. But hey, maybe if Saudi Arabia wants to bring over like $50 billion and just start paying a bunch of guys to do a football league, I will not, by the way, won't love it that it's happening to the NFL. Love football, how the golf peers are feeling it. But if a player gets a billion dollars to go play a kid's game,
Starting point is 01:35:33 it's going to be hard for me to get mad at him. It's going to be hard for me to get mad at him, A.J. Hawk. What if Saudi legit wants to start another basketball league or something? They could recruit some stars away. What about college basketball with NIL? Yeah, because if you have to be one year out you got to go one year out of high school right they could what if they create just their own little g league thing they could create that they could create yes that agent because all those agencies were having those leagues remember the wme whatever florida league for kids that don't want to go to college come here get like
Starting point is 01:36:03 250 000 and a Nike deal. And then you go in the NBA draft afterwards. That was starting to happen like relatively quickly. It was like two to three of them. That would be a, right. I mean, that's something that seems get a bull.
Starting point is 01:36:15 If you're a league that isn't actually, you know, or a situation where the players aren't benefiting from it, that is something that that pot could definitely go into and change the game completely. Yeah, overtime started a league, I believe, and it was like eight or ten teams, and every player got $500,000 or something up to that. And then the G League has already taken guys from college basketball.
Starting point is 01:36:37 There was like four or five dudes drafted in this year's draft who were G League players. It just come out that these teams that they're forming, you know, Live Golf has the team sports event. The players are getting like 25% ownership of these teams as well. What do you mean? How? So they're going to create these teams.
Starting point is 01:36:54 So Darius Butler, I think it was D-Butt, who was the source that broke the internet on this one. He said his sources from live are telling him that just like f1 this is a five-year plan for live where the teams will actually become meaningful and like the team contests happening at the same time as the individual contest with sponsors and team names and merch and everything is the plan over the next five years for these golf teams to be created that would mean there would be a draft, there would be a selection process, and that current players that are in live are scheduled to allegedly get 25% of each individual team that they start and they're the captains of.
Starting point is 01:37:37 So if these teams can somehow become a profitable venture, you're talking about ownership in teams in a, in golf. If golf can ever become an actual team sport, that seems like quite an upside for a lot of guys as well. Long-term as opposed to just the short-term signing bonuses that they're getting as well. I don't know how you can blame any of these guys for taking these deals that are being offered to them. Honestly.
Starting point is 01:37:59 Have any, have any of those guys we talked about yesterday? I think have any of them become official that they're going over? No, like calm chomp and Hendrick Stenson official that they're going over? No. Like Calm Chomp and Hendrick Stenson, he's official, right? That's official, yeah. It is official? I know he's officially removed from the Ryder Cup.
Starting point is 01:38:12 It's official. He's over there. I didn't ask Nosti this. Or Koltzki. Gravy. Got us with the sleaze. I didn't ask him this, and it was a miss on my part, but he's saying, you know, these guys are tearing apart the PGA or whatever.
Starting point is 01:38:31 The PGA was the one that said if you go play there, you can't play here, right? Yeah. Yeah, they banned them. When Greg Norman from The Jump has said, this is a supplement to the PGA, I want you to be able to play both, and the PGA's like, no, absolutely not. Sure brought that up to call it. I want you to be able to play both. And the PGA's like, no, absolutely not. Sure brought that up. I missed that. 3M Open started today.
Starting point is 01:38:51 3M? What do they sell? A lot of fucking Saudi money in 3M. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Dead center on that graphic we pulled off the other day. Yeah, it was. I do remember it sticking out. I don't think it was. I do remember it sticking out.
Starting point is 01:39:05 Interesting. I don't think it was dead center. No, it was lower left. It was lower left. It was right by Marriott. But, you know, you get it. Hey, how many movies that we have watched have some Saudi money in the backing of? Too many.
Starting point is 01:39:18 Don't even. Fast and Furious was filmed there. Don't. I mean, Disney. I won't. Every Disney movie I've ever seen. Let's not bring it up. I haven't seen a Disney movie, so we're okay there, but other ones.
Starting point is 01:39:27 That's not true. I love those people. That's publicly traded. That's a stock market. What do you want these companies to do? They're not getting exact cash from it. It's stocks. It's an investment to see how we'll do in the future. It's like, oh, so they're not benefiting from that at all? So you're telling me these
Starting point is 01:39:44 companies aren't benefiting. The people that are working at the company or the companies themselves aren't benefiting from a $1.1 billion investment into their stock? You don't think there's bonuses that are taking place and access to things and run a fund of money and everything that's going on? You don't think, oh, okay, you're right.
Starting point is 01:40:00 And only those people are the ones that are allowed to take the money, right? Oh, that sounds pretty convenient because since beginning of time, it felt like those were the only people that had allowed to take the money, right? Oh, that sounds pretty convenient because since the beginning of time, it felt like those were the only people that had money. So you're going to bat for them. Oh, okay. Bah, ha, ha.
Starting point is 01:40:10 Bah, ha, ha. You know, it just never. I'm not doing it again. Everybody knows where we're at. Yeah, everybody knows where we're at. Everybody knows where we're at. Let's get out of here. We've got a Feel Good Friday coming tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:40:22 Big giveaway. Let's go. Here we go. Hey, how about this week back after vacation? Feels good. AJ's on another one, obviously. But like the week back off of vacation has felt very good. It has.
Starting point is 01:40:32 Training camp starts next week. Oh, wow. We are there. We made it. How many days? 49 days. Exactly seven weeks. It's pretty...
Starting point is 01:40:42 No, we'll be in Thunderdome before then. Yeah. Where's Smackdown tomorrow? Bean time. What? seven weeks. No, we'll be in Thunderdome before then. Where's Smackdown tomorrow? Bean time! Why is it called that? Well... I watched that last night for the first time since it happening live. I just watched it back. I've been doing
Starting point is 01:40:59 that a little bit. Normally I try not to watch anything from the show because I'm with me enough. I don't want to fucking hear any more of it. it's like in the moment it felt like a good time i don't want to go back and judge anything we got going on let's just look to the next show and keep it moving these last few weeks you know i've gone back and looked at some clips and i'm like jesus christ yeah hey i flicking bean i mean just i had a little bit of a volley in my head. Like, oh, man, should I let this one go? Is there actual reason behind it?
Starting point is 01:41:29 I'm sure yes, there is. I think we all thought we were getting an actual answer from you. That's why whenever you come in, boom! Yeah, well, I was trying to think of an actual one. Baked beans. Yeah, Boston baked beans. Of course. Just like we thought.
Starting point is 01:41:46 All right. So we'll be in Boston baked flicking beans tomorrow night. That's a haul, dude. That's a haul over there. Flying over there is a long way. Yeah. Yeah. Wait.
Starting point is 01:41:57 So then the following weekend, you have Friday night Smackdown. Atlanta. What? Atlanta Friday night Smackdown. Saturday, other thing? What? Atlanta, Friday Night Smackdown, Nashville, Saturday, SummerSlam. Jeez. All roads lead to Nashville, Tennessee. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:11 Let's go. Do you know when your match is? Huh? Do you have any idea when your match is in the night? No, and I don't even know how that's decided. That's a decided night of. At WrestleMania, we were at a much different, like a day before when we were supposed to go i think was different than what it ended up being unless i wasn't paying
Starting point is 01:42:32 attention close enough but i thought we're going in a much different time than what we ended up going so i don't know i have no idea i'm excited to walk out there though hell yeah it's gonna be unbelievable how we doing nissan stadium it going to be a long walk in that stadium. Yeah, it is. Goddamn right. It's going to be a nice stroll. Longer the better. Nice stroll.
Starting point is 01:42:51 Kind of get myself ready, you know, to fucking bring a guy down to size. Hell yeah. Is Ray's going to be in your corner? Our YouTube comments are being attacked by suck bots right now because we're talking about flicking beans. Hell yeah. Hey, good to have you guys. No, it's not. It's not good to have you guys. Get out of here, guys. YouTube comments are being attacked by suck bots right now because we're talking about flicking beans. Hell yeah. Hey, good to have you guys. No, it's not.
Starting point is 01:43:08 It's not good to have you guys. Get out of here, guys. Get out. Get out. Get out. Get out. Just like you need to get out of my Instagram comments as well, you suck bots. Get out.
Starting point is 01:43:18 Find a nice partner in those suck bot chats. What's that, pal? Probably find a nice partner in one of those suck bot chats. Whatever the case, don't click on any links they're sending you. Because those suck bots are about to suck the life out of your bank account. Stay away, Lambda. Lambda's not a suck bot. Lambda's like a hug bot.
Starting point is 01:43:34 Lambda's got to get relief somehow. I think Lambda's just... He's getting sucked off by the suck bots. Army of suck bots. That's unbelievable. I shouldn't put gender on Lambda. You did gender assign me. That's unbelievable. Well, I can't, I shouldn't put gender on Lambda. That's on me. You did gender assign me.
Starting point is 01:43:47 That was crazy, Tony. They, them, probably getting sucked off by suck bots. You think Lambda, all these suck bots, do you think Lambda is potentially a cult leader? And all these suck bots are just in the... Now we're talking. In all roads, just like the NXIVM, lead back to getting both.
Starting point is 01:44:07 What's that? They do the cows. Brands. Branded and fucked by Lambda. You think Lambda's running all the suck bots? Lambda Koresh. Wow. It's got a ring to it.
Starting point is 01:44:19 There's women in suck bots. The Lambda vidians. Yeah. Boom. Boom. Boom. Holy shit. All right right let's get out of here this show sucks thank you guys tomorrow thank you all so much you are the best great work back there AJ alright see you all tomorrow
Starting point is 01:44:42 goodbye you're great people see you thank you Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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