The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 702 - Feel Good Friday With Dan Orlovsky & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: July 22, 2022

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about the NFC West as a whole a day after Kyler Murray inked a new five year extension with the Cardinals, how the divisional odds have changed and what the bookmakers think of Trey Lance and the 49ers, and ultimately who they like to make the playoffs in both the NFC and AFC. Joining the progrum to chat about all things revolving around the NFL including his thoughts on the Quarterback ratings released by Madden 2023 today is 12 year NFL veteran at Quarterback, and ESPN NFL Analyst, Dan Orlovsky. They also discuss what Lamar Jackson's plans are moving forward, if he thinks missing last year will be detrimental to Deshaun Watson's play on the field, why he likes Tua to make a big jump this year, and whether or not he's worried about the Patriots not having defined Defensive and Offensive Coordinators (20:45-55:50). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show, and listen on Sirius XM Channel 82, Mad Dog Radio. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Oh, beautiful people, it is Feel Good Friday, July 22nd, 2022, and this sports show on the internet radio begins now. Let's ride. That's right, let's ride into a Feel Good Friday in which we will have Dan Orlovsky joining us in about 17 minutes. Now, he attempted to join us yesterday and he had no internet. He said it was a thunderstorm. We're saying it's potentially bad operating human in Dan Orlovsky, but today he'll be on, and today's a great day to have Orlovsky on because everybody knows that Dane is the voice of quarterbacks on ESPN. He's become the quarterback guru to the world,

and Madden has officially released their ratings for quarterbacks on Madden. Whoa, whoa. So we won't debut those yet. We will let Dan Orlovsky see those for the first time and have our conversation with him because there is a couple. Ooh. Interesting. But once again, anytime something like this happens,

we have to judge the people making the decisions more so than judge the actual numbers. I think Madden has, you know, some flaws. Yeah, sure. More than so. That's the voice of the Madden community at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt at the Toxic Table and at Tone Diggs is here, one half of the hammer.

God. Cowboys. And Madden does have some flaws, and those have certainly been spotlighted over the years as the game has remained the damn near same for years and years and years. Right? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

But the ratings ratings it feels like by the madden community have been gospel they've been you know the bible almost they have single handedly determined some people probably making it into the pro bowl in real life because how they're depicted in a video game and is it real is it not real so although we have to take these things seriously because narratives are being built about players through their score, through Madden, we always have to remember, who the fuck's doing the ratings? Exactly.

Maybe it's somebody that knows more than everybody else. Maybe there's somebody that has a little bit of a vendetta against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Maybe it's somebody who has no experience or no clue at one particular position but played in another position but they couldn't find somebody to do it in this this position so I'll pick up this position as well I know football but do I know what this position that's no but I think sometimes they get 100% right but just like anything that happens in this world there's going to be errors and I think a lot

of people find a lot of them especially whenever you're rating people for the first time from zero to a hundred because contracts whenever those come up, that's really the only way you can judge people next to each other in the NFL or in professional football. How much are they making? How much have they made? Is that a team-friendly deal or what they're actually worth? And then you see every other player look,

oh, that's what I'm fucking worth because now a number is actually being put next to them. Madden's been doing that the whole time, and it's everybody in the NFL. Hi, my name is Peter Bumblefuck. Hey, Peter. And I'm a judicator. I was a high school gym teacher, and I know football on the ins and outs.

And this guy who's in the NFL, he's 62. 62s. 62s are making it in the NFL. How's that even? That is what we have to remember through it all. Excited to hear what Dan Olavsky has to say about the 10 quarterbacks that are rated at the top of the Madden NFL game. There's some.

A couple head scratchers. Oh, yeah. I would never be the one who would say, you know what? I should be given ratings for quarterbacks. Sure. Okay? Been around a couple good. Sure.

Yeah. No couple good quarterbacks. Right. All fame. Would not feel comfortable or confident enough to put a number right next to every single one of them. No way. So we have to give a little bit of respect, I guess, to the Madden adjudicators that have enough confidence to go ahead

and put their names on a number on somebody that's much more athletic than them and probably knows the sport much better than them. But with that being said, there's always going to be backlash. Speaking of backlash, the NFC West is alive and well after the Kyler Murray deal is alive and well after the kyler murray deal gets signed and inked yesterday i have it on anonymous sources have told me um that they're very happy that that is over with okay that they are very happy to be through that particular chapter of the relationship business has to happen because somebody's making money, so the people that are working should be making money as well.

Kyler Murray has done a great job for the Arizona Cardinals. Kyler Murray, BK. Arizona Cardinals, BK. Okay. For Kyler. Pretty trash. Very bad. Right?

I mean, Kurt Warner and them boys had a good run. They did. After KW. And B.A. had a run. A little one with Carson Palmer. They had a run, but never really went. You know what I mean? Never, like, they did.

But there was an era there where it was like, what's going on, Cardinal football? Yeah. Are they falling apart over there in the desert? That city is so goddamn beautiful and glorious. So gorgeous. The stadium is immaculate. Everything is perfect out there. Is that team dead? BK, they were thinking that.

PK, post Kyler, it's a whole different game. Now I'll tell you, we should be in playoffs. We should be in the Super Bowl. We should be in conversations for winning big time games because we got a quarterback. We got an owner that's going all in on the roster. We just put extensions on the GMm and the head coach this should be a crew that goes on and does the thing there should be a lot of excitement but i i assume that from my anonymous sources uh his sentiment

is echoing everybody else's that thank god they got this done and they can move forward and only think about football because we are only 48 days away from the NFL. This whole Kyler thing worked out exactly how Steve Kime told us it was going to work out, right? And I think everybody just had an assumption this was going to take place. 160 M's guaranteed is a lot of money to just assume happened, but I'm happy it worked out. Yeah, we were ultimately just seeing how much he was going to get paid, right?

Because when you look at it, it's like their hands were kind of tied. Granted, he could have kept playing through the rest of his deal, but we always talk about what's on the other side of that. How can you let that guy go if your hope is like, oh, well, maybe we'll get a guy just like him in the draft. They really didn't have a choice, and it was kind of just, hey, how much guaranteed money are they going to get him, and when is he going to kind of – because he had the thing where you unfollowed him on Instagram and all that kind of just, hey, how much guaranteed money are they going to get him and when is he going to kind of – because he had the thing where you unfollowed him

on Instagram and all that kind of stuff. But it felt like ultimately he was always going to come back and it was just about like, hey, pay me what I'm worth. You know what they say about grass. They say you go ahead and put a little flame to it, you feel good. That's right. They also say, and they had said for a long time, that it was greener on the other side.

Because you just said they don't want to go down the road of not knowing who their quarterback is, which is so accurate at every important position in life, basically. But definitely in the NFL, they said the grass is greener on the other side. Let's go see what it is. The grass is greener where you water it. And when you pay them and then you surround them with a team and you get, you know, it feels like everybody rowing in the same direction. Cardinals might be a team to look out for.

Now, let's take a little peek-see at the NFC West odds after the signing happened here. So, obviously, the reigning, defending, undisputed Super Bowl champions of the world are the favorites to win at plus 125 the 49ers with trey lance quarterback man has never uh has he started no i started one game last year when jimmy g was out with that uh injury okay so he started one game in the cardinals one game in the nfl they're at plus 200 because that roster around them kyla murray just got signed they don't have d hop for six games they're at plus 300 to win the nfc. And then the Seahawks, and we put

Geno Smith on here, just strictly I respect for Geno, and Geno's been there, and could be Drew Luck. They're at plus 1,500 to win the NFC West. So the Cardinals just paid their quarterback. They've invested in their entire team. They've been able to kind of put momentum in their favor.

They're still third place in the odds of just their division. I mean, it is going to be tough to get out of the NFC West, and that's why you've got to participate. That's why you've got to pay guys. That's why you've got to get going. Matthew Stafford, $40 million a year. Good for him getting out of Detroit.

There you go, Matty. Getting out of Detroit, which he still calls home, still has a home, still loves. He goes to L.A., immediately becomes much more likable by the national media, wins a Super Bowl, and gets paid more money than he's ever been paid, even though he got like $50 million guaranteed whenever he was drafted number one overall. Appreciate it. Trey Lance making $8.5 million a year, his number three overall pick.

Kyler Murray's making $46.1 million per year, which is $100,000 more per year than Deshaun Watson. And then Geno and Drew Locke, about $3.5 million per year. So I'll be fascinated to see how it all plays out. Is Trey Lance a guy? Sportsbooks think so. They think Shanahan thinks so. They think Lynch thinks so.

They think that roster is good. But the L.A. Rams, still the big bad bad wolf and it looks like they've been enjoying their celebrations but you got a lot of vets over there that decide to run it back i'm not sure you're running it back to just lay an egg i think the rams are going to be fucking good again as well who else they brought in some allen robinson boom there it is and odell beckham's still out there potentially going to end up back there he crashed sean mcveigh's wedding i can't wait to watch NFC West football this year. Yeah, both the West divisions are going to be a primetime game like every week. But now with the Kyler contract especially,

what's the expectation like Super Bowl or bus now? Especially with looking at those odds. He doesn't want a playoff game, I don't think. Yeah, he has. But you have to win a – if you get paid, you have to win a Super Bowl. Have to. Or at least go to the conference championship. And I guess Trey Lance kind of has those expectations too

just because Jimmy G took him there and now it's his team. I think Trey's got a few years, but it's interesting because that roster is set up to go now. Yes, exactly. It's set up to go now. But I think expectation common would be he's young. Let him get a little bit. He's got a year under his belt.

Very feasible for us to have a conversation one year from now saying, all right, the Niners, Trey Lance has a year under his belt like very feasible for us to have a conversation one year from now saying all right the niners trey lance has a year under his belt got to experience nfl football at a high level it was his team what are they going to do this year with basically similar like i could see that conversation happening yeah but what if they what if trey lance is a dude what if they just catch yeah lightning in a bottle and that team that's been so close so close so close so close finally breaks through on their new quarterback. It's not going to be easy for the Cardinals to make it. No. It is not going to be easy to live up to the expectations of that deal.

No. But I guess that's kind of why we play the game. Rams also added Bobby Wagner, but they did lose, obviously, Odell and Robert Woods. They both are injured and they're gone. They lost Whitworth, who I assume was the leader there on the offensive line line his head was sticking up into the camera on the espy they had they did like a shot where they thought they were over the couch uh section of the theater and his big bald head was just sitting like sideways in the middle of my that's a big his caddy was a teammate of his at the bangles at the American Century Championship.

Big fuck. Huge. I mean, huge. He had Whitworth, the Whitworth tag on his back, and he was walking away from me. And I walked up and just hit the person in the back. I'm like, are you another one? Is every Whitworth just a fucking beast? He's like, oh, I was actually teammates with him in Cincinnati. They by far were the largest at the American Century Championship.

They're going to miss him, right? Yeah, I think so. There's so many records he broke for playing tackle at his age and the amount of snaps he played, I think, and everything. They're going to miss that, but I have faith in Sean McVay. He's going to sneeze. He says, fuck them picks. Give me the vets who know how to play over here.

If they go back to back to back, everything that Sean McVay and the guy sneezes, says, fuck them picks. Give me the vets who know how to play over here. If they go back to back to back, everything that Sean McVay just decided to do, turning down however much money he turned down from Amazon and Aaron Donald, going back and playing whenever he was allegedly very comfortable with leaving. I mean, it'll all be worth it. Are they the next dynasty? We said this about the Chiefs. Are the Chiefs the next dynasty? Chiefs have done well, but anytime they don't win a Super Bowl,

people are going to say, this ain't what the Patriots would have done. Patriots would have been able to come back and do it. The Patriots dynasty set an unrealistic expectation for a lot of people, but everybody's chasing that. Everybody's goal was that, but we ain't ever going to see that again. No, never. Ever. We ain't ever going to see that again.

It does make it easier for them that they are in the NFC. They're in a tough division, but I could see three come out of the West because the rest of the NFC, obviously you have the Packers at the top of the North and then the East, who the fuck knows, and the South is probably the Bucs. So you could probably get three out of the West, one out of the North and South, and then maybe two out of the East or whatever. I know you were looking for odds the other day on three out of one division. He wanted the AFC West.

I think it's more likely the NFC West gets three. Did they have three last year? Yeah, they did. Yes. So it wouldn't be unprecedented. That has to be a bet. I assume it's pretty good odds on three out of the NFC West making it in there. Yeah, I think the big swing would just be whether or not the Vikings kind of take a step this year

because they could be the other team that kind of steals the spot. Saints too. I'm not completely out of the woods with the Saints. Me either. They got Michael Thomas back. They got Jarvis Landry. Do they? Yeah, they do. Do they? Michael Thomas on the PUP. Physically unable to perform. Let's miss all last year.

Obviously had the rehab to health, then surgery decision to health. Missed a lot of games. There was some differences, I believe, between Michael Thomas and the organization. This offseason, he was in Southern California rehabbing after missing a year. Then he came back, and I guess now the Saints doctors just have to clear him, I think, is the Saints doctors have to clear him. So maybe the Saints doctors are just, you know,

doing thorough evaluations to make sure he's good. What if he misses more games? Not just last year. He only played in, like, five the year before that. It's been a – Mitch has hit, like, 16 different buttons. That a baby mitt. That a baby mitt.

That a boy mitt. It's been a while. You would hope as a Saints fan that he would have been cleared before this. Yes, well, I think as soon as I read that he was still doing his rehab in California, I was like, okay, all right. That was obviously discussed by the team and by Michael Thomas, and they're cool with it. But I think from a fan's perspective of the Saints, it's like,

didn't you do this you did this last year right and then you came back and then we missed the whole thing and then now you're doing it again and i think players should get rehab wherever they feel comfortable at i'm just saying from a public perception if he's the miss more it's going to be like well why wasn't he in the building every single day with our doctors and everything and i don't know who their doctors are who their physical therapists are down there in new orleans but i know that would certainly be a conversation around the building like this guy shut up he's still not i mean he's still not healthy after two years right even doing we need him he's a fucking guy because of what we're talking about

right now because of the drama kind of and the injury and everything i think people forget michael if michael thomas comes back as michael Thomas, he's a fucking guy guy. Not just a little bit. He has 150 catches the last full season. Exactly. He is the guy down there. And then you've got Kamara as well. Taysom Hill, full-time gadget guy.

Yep. Jarvis. Jameis Winston, Jarvis Landry. You've got the honey badger on the defensive side of the ball again. You've also got the guy from the Jets, I believe, Marcus May. Yeah. Very good safety. Mario Davis still.

Mario Davis, Marshawn Lattimore, CJ, GJ. They drafted a little of it. Yeah. So now let's head to the odds. Let's do that now. I mean, you know, we're having a pretty good combo there. Didn't just need to. The NFC, though.

Green Bay, Minnesota out of the north. Let's go through it. Here's who's going to make the playoffs. Green Bay. Yep. Minnesota. I think so, too. Really?

I like. I do. What is it, seven per side? Bucks. We just had a hell of a conversation about the Saints there. I know. I tried. I don't know. We just had a hell of a conversation about the Saints there. I know. I tried. I don't know.

We just had a hell of a conversation about the Saints there. I mean, I don't know. Saints make it. First year coach. NFC East, who cares? One of them. Okay. Eagles.

And then only two from the NFC West, I guess. Is that what I'm saying? So if I give it to the Vikings, then I'm only saying two out of the NFC West. Yeah. And if I give one to the Saints, you know, which would make a lot of sense, then we're taking, you know, there is. The NFC does seem gettable, though. Oh, yeah.

I'll do the AFC. Okay, so you've got. It's impossible. It's impossible. So you've got the Bengals going to make it. Ravens going to make it. Colts are going to make it. Well. Definitely. You've got a fucking Navy seal playing quarterback. That's true. Raven's gonna make it Colts are gonna make it well

definitely we got a fucking Navy seal plane quarterback that's true an astronaut and Marvel superheroes are coming to training camp

oh that's true Marvel superheroes are coming to fucking training camp shit you might ask yourself it was announced that the Colts and Marvel

have come together on a partnership and an agreement you can take this off the whole Colts and Marvel relationship was announced today via Colts.com. This is a fucking big deal. Huge deal. Yeah.

The Indianapolis Colts said, hey, how can we, you know, become open for business? How do we start attracting, you know, people to training camp? How do we start really making money moves out here? Yep. They said, well, how about the biggest franchise in like superhero history? Let's make a deal with them. Indianapolis Colts, Marvel, now partners. Let's go.

Here we go. Very smart. They got Spider-Man and Captain America coming to training camp. Tom Holland and Chris Evans are coming to training camp. Holy shit. Not Tom Holland. No, it's Chris Evans. Chris Evans won't be there either.

Okay. How about the other Spider-Man from before? Yeah. Not Tobey Maguire. Now, I don't know who's going to be the Captain America. I don't know who's going to be doing it. Sure. I don't know who's going to be doing it.

Sure. But we did get a chance to figure out which Spider-Man will be coming to training camp. Okay. And we got a chance to catch up with him, actually. Here's Spider-Man coming to the Colts training camp here this upcoming fall with their partnership with Marvel. Spider-Man. Spider-Man. Does whatever on Spider-Cam. Watch him jump on his chair.

Break into the other side of the chair. Oh, no. Not again. Not again. Oh, no. That was a bad decision. You're going to regret that decision. Oh, I've regretted many, my friend.

Don't you worry. It's not the first or the last. Is that what happened? Is that what's happening? Are you the Spider-Man making an appearance at fucking Colts training camp this year? Did the Colts hire you after that performance in the phone room and said, listen, we need you at training camp

to take pictures with the kids? I'm not so sure that was me. Because, you know, you can't see what the space was. I think that might have been you. Look, I don't know. If I was a superhero, I couldn't tell you. Because then that would ruin the whole entire mass situation that they have going on. But yeah, maybe.

Maybe I will be at Colts training camp, but I know the Colts don't want that because if I am at Colts training camp, there might be a little sabotage in the air. You know, I might just spidey someone's foot to the ground. Maybe hurt somebody. Everyone's sticking to the ground all of a sudden. So I don't know which Spider-Man is getting invited to coach training camp in. Which Captain America? I'm assuming they're not going to have the...

No, it feels like that's not... I read that partnership. I was pretty excited about it. I was pumped about it. Yeah. Kenny Moore? Shoot. Kenny Moore turned into a superhero?

Yeah. Let's go and do it. Kenny Thor? Kenny Thor, how you doing? Big old biceps on a Quentin Nelson. They can make him a superhero. I was like, oh, my God. Are they making a Marvel movie about the Colts?

This seems like they got the maniac in there. That's right. DeForest Buckner's in there. I mean, they could really do this thing. Turns out it's not. It's just Spider-Man and Captain America dress-up folks coming to camp. What the hell? What is this?

There might be some graphics made now that they've heard you just say what you said. Yeah, like a minute-long animation of the Colts players being superheroes, busting trees and shit. And maybe that's the open at the stadium. Yeah, I'd be sure. Oh, there you go. It's a Marvel superheroes movie for a minute and a half. Is that what it is?

Did we read in the article that that's what it was? Big Q could definitely be the guy that runs through the walls. The juggernaut. Who's Hulk? The Hulk is Mark Ruffalo. No, on a team. Hulk smash. He could be that. Yeah, right? Because it's a big...

You don't like me when I'm angry. I got a better idea. How about we quit all the tomfoolery and we pay Quentin Nelson and we pay Kenny Moore and get these guys playing football? I agree. All right. I mean, that is very fair. You don't get a Super Bowl this year, too.

That 10 years is closing in very fast. Jim Irsay says fucking calm down. Cool it. Yeah, well, I'm not going to be calm until we sign Julio Jones or somebody for the Colts because what we have right now is not getting done. Joining us now is a quarterback that won games for the Indianapolis Colts. Hell yeah. When you think of great Indianapolis Colts quarterbacks,

you obviously think of Johnny Yu, Peyton Manning, Dan Orlovsky. Joining us now is the third person in that list of great quarterbacks that had won games while wearing the horseshoe on the side of their head. Now, this man is known as the quarterback authority on ESPN. Tried to talk to him yesterday. He's got some Bush League amateur hour internet setup that obviously ruined it all. But lo and behold, today we get the opportunity to be blessed by this man's brain. Ladies and gentlemen, Dana Schlossky.

What's up, dude? What's up, fella? I think my internet's going to be a little bit better today. You look great. You got a good tan yesterday. We apologize for interrupting whatever you had going on, but it is fucking awesome to see you, pal. We've missed you, haven't we?

Oh, yeah. We missed you, Dan. We missed you, Dan. Good to be back. You look good. Good to be back. I know you were away for a little bit. Some golf, some vacation, which was very well earned. Thank you.

It's good to be back in the show, guy. Yeah. Well, I mean, like one week off, four months, two different things, but I do understand what you're talking about. You haven't been on TV, what, in a year? Yeah. You came back on TV. What's going on?

You drop in. You yell at everybody. You leave. You go do push-ups in the front yard, year yeah you came back on TV what's going on you drop in you yell at everybody you leave you go do push-ups in the in the front yard and then you come back are you gearing up for a big NFL season are we gonna see you on ESPN what eight nine hours a day oh yeah every day for this fall what's going on we know you signed a new deal let's celebrate a little bit yeah I appreciate it yeah I'll be on every day 18 181 straight days. I calculated it out. So it'll be 181 straight days of television for the most part. And I'll keep doing my same stuff, dude. Like, I'm basically going to do my same schedule as I did last year.

I'll just have some of those ESPN, a Monday night football game, a Sunday morning game. Here we go. Monday night, Dan. Monday night, Orlovsky. Let's go. Oh, here we go. Monday night, Dan. Monday night, Orlovsky. Let's go. Oh, my God. Hell, yeah.

What'd you say? Sunday what? Sunday morning what? I think week 18. Week 18 is a Sunday. I think it'll be a Saturday, like, playoff. It has to have playoff implications. Mr. Saturday night, Dan Orlovsky.

Let's go. Yeah, Donald. Super fired up, man. It'd be a lot of fun. We'll have a blast. I'll say a bunch of stuff that's going to tick people off. Um, but yeah, it'd be a busy fall. I got like another three weeks of life, more weeks of summer and then pandemonium picks up again. Hey, listen, I know you haven't been on TV in a long time and you've been enjoying summer and you just talked about it there. I was on TV Tuesday.

No, you weren't. We didn't see it. No. I was 100% on TV Tuesday. Nobody saw it. People at airports maybe and walking through a bar, they saw it. Nobody else saw it, okay?

Listen, we miss you. You need to up that internet up there, pal. What have you been? You've been skimping on the bill a little bit up there, Dan? Is that what you're saying? You're trying to knock down the power grid a little bit for the kids? What have you been? You've been kind of skimping on the bill a little bit up there, Dan? Is that what you're saying? Trying to knock down the power grid a little bit for the kids? What do you got going on? You want the truth of the situation

with this? Well, that's what this show's about. The reason why, I live in Westport, Connecticut. That sucks. Oh, it doesn't? I thought it was Big Yuck Town. Oh, it is, but it sucks to live there, everyone says. Sorry, it's Connor, obviously. You know that. Connor, I was just in Devin's Mass a couple weeks ago.

That's not a real place. That sucks. That's not a real place. Never even heard of it. Not real. Devin's lacrosse squad is the best. Everybody knows that. It's not real.

If it's west of Springfield, it's not real. Anyways, nobody cares about this little interstate battle. And this area is, it's not a poor area. I'll say that. And the people of the area refuse to put in a cell phone tower because they think it looks not appropriate for the area.

You're telling me they're doing a little high horsing? It's unbelievable, dude. You're telling me that? It's unbelievable. Just give You're telling me that? It's unbelievable. Just give me a cell phone tower. Pat, there's areas in my house where my cell phone doesn't get service. I don't even get cell service.

Listen. It's 2022. Most of us were probably born into families that had a shit ton of money to begin with. We haven't really earned a dollar or a thing. We haven't really earned a dollar or a thing. But since we are in a modern technology world in which money can buy you access and technology, we're choosing not to because it's optically an eyesore. So fuck off, Olosti.

Is that what they're doing right now? Give me a cell phone tower, dude. That's awesome. You yups are awesome, dude. The yups are awesome. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. The yups are the best. Build it yourself.

What's up, pretty girl? How are you doing? Good. How's summer been with your dad? No. What did you ask her? Fuck off. I got nothing, Dan. I got nothing for her. Sorry about it. Good to see you.

Hi, Miss Simeon. She said to that box when you got your boo-boo. Oh, yeah. I got nothing for her. Sorry about it. Good to see you. You know, I miss Simeon. Yeah, she's the one. She's the one who sent you that box when you got your boo-boo. Oh, she knows my wife. Oh, yeah. Now I remember. Oh! You want me right back over.

You're too cute not to. Jacket in the family. How's summer been? How's summer been? Bye! How's your summer been? Good? Summer been good?

Okay, you look great. Good to see you. See you. Dan, you're going to watch this back, and you're going to see that I might have let a fuck off slide whenever she said she didn't remember me. I didn't mean it. I didn't mean it.

She didn't deserve it. We forgive you. All right, cool. She want you back. We forgive you. She did. She want me back pretty quick. How old is she?

She's six. Okay, so full sentences. Write. Can she write? Yeah, dude. she's six. She's not two. What's the difference? Use phone.

She's got three older brothers, though. So like every younger kid does things faster because the older brothers dog. OK, so what age does she start speaking like full sentences and understanding things that are happening around her? I think like four, four years old, it started happening around her. I think like four. Four years old it started happening for her, but I think the older brothers factored that in a little bit being around so many older kids and stuff. Hey, what's going on? Earmuffs, earmuffs, earmuffs, earmuffs, earmuffs, earmuffs.

Everybody, earmuffs. Guys, go outside. She's six years old. I want to eat popsicles now. They're good. They're making popsicles. It's like 110 degrees getting popsicles. I want to make popsicles now. They're good. They're making popsicles. Oh, my God. It's like 110 degrees getting popsicles.

Yeah, I want one. Oh, my God. I want to be a tie. It's your Wazowski house. Are they in earshot right now? No, you're good. Okay, so, like, Ty just had a baby. For the next four years, I can just drop as many fuckbombs as I want around,

and that won't be a thing. She'll become a sponge at the age of four or five? Yeah, I you could start to like pick some stuff up but they're you know like I don't they're not going to comprehend what it actually is they've got friends who tee it off and let it fly up until three I think you're clean okay good all right perfect good to know uncle pat's still a fan favorite over there that's right what's that yeah i just had one congrats thank you thank you very much oh From the foul line. Low-hanging fruit. He's like the 400th person to say.

Jay Glazer used that as well, so congrats, Dan. Hey, he's saying a hack joke. Big time. Big time. I never claimed to be creative. I never claimed to be creative. That was good. Let's talk about you being creative or being upset or something like that. ESPN did an interview of 50 executives, coaches, and players in the NFL to rank the top ten quarterbacks.

You got all pissed off. Obviously, everybody got pissed off about it for one reason or another. Anytime you do a ranking system of fucking great athletes and great quarterbacks, there's always going to be a little bit of tension, I think, with the decisions. Now, it's always anonymous. It's always bullshit. But Madden, as of this morning, put out their top ten. And I'm intrigued to hear your thoughts on this.

Have you seen this yet? Of the top ten quarterbacks? For Madden ratings. It just came out this morning. Oh, yes. Here we go. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, quarterback guru for ESPN, the face of quarterbacking for the next 181 days of the NFL season.

Yes. We are introducing Dan Orlovsky to the Madden quarterback ratings for the first time. I'm excited to get your take on this because the top 50 executives with the top 10 with no Lamar Jackson on there, Deshaun Watson was on there, many others were on there. You obviously and many others were upset about it. Wait till you see this one.

Please put it up onto the screen, please. Doug, go full screen on that thing. This is Brady, Rogers, Patrick, Josh, Joe, Dak, Herbert. So I would absolutely put – I mean, these are Madden ratings. Hey, that's what we said yesterday as well.

We have to judge the people doing the judging and making the decisions. Madden ratings, I assume, get some very right, but they shape a lot of people's opinions about players strictly because they play it every day. They get people in the Pro Bowls, by the way, and there has long been people pissed off about the ratings how about maddie stafford reigning uh defending super bowl champion and triple crown yep right wide receiver and i think even yak so he had top four stats and one wide receiver with cooper cup won the super bowl he's down at 85 tom brady at 97 i believe it's the tip of the cap to the

goat for being the goat and uh aaron rogers up there how do you feel about lamar jackson how low he is dak prescott how high he is what are your thoughts dan as you kind of digest this uh for the last couple moments yeah so i i think first of all i would put rogers at one brady at two but that's right splitting hairs i think dak I obviously would not have Dak in the top ten. I'd have Herbert at six. I'd have Lamar at seven. I'd have Russell at eight. You know what, excuse me.

I would have Herbert at six, Stafford at seven, and then Lamar eight, Russell nine. and then Lamar 8, Russell 9. Number 10 would probably be Matt Ryan. No, not Matt Ryan. Certainly not Mack just yet, but probably to Sean as a player just on the field. I don't know if Matt is in that.

Just real quick, Dan, do we know that? Do we know what? I mean, guy, listen, I understand that when Deshaun was playing, you can take that down now, Mitt. When Deshaun was playing. He hasn't played in two years. Yeah, he hasn't played in like two years. He's been through a lot, too.

I mean, like that has to be wearing and everything. Do you think he'll come back just as good as he was? And now who knows how many games he's going to be suspended. Who knows how long the Honorable Sue Robinson will decide for him to be suspended. But everybody's just assuming he's going to be all the way back. Is that going to take a little – is it like riding a bike? I have no – I don't fully think I comprehend the position enough to know. Yeah, the situation reminds me of when – remember when Michael Vick went away to jail for – Oh, yeah, yeah, oh yeah i think it was

two years right and he was playing at a incredibly high level and then he came back and we were all like he's two years older hasn't played and all of a sudden he went to philadelphia and it was almost like he revitalized his career got another huge contract and played really well so i don't want to minimize it as it's just like riding a bike, but I don't think it's going to be he's going to go from a guy who had one of the historically best passing seasons ever to he's playing backup quarterback level ball. So I think Deshaun, after a couple games of getting back on the field playing-wise, is going to be playing at an incredibly high level again.

And everybody knows that we were on the Matthew Stafford train before literally anybody else. And then you hopped on, um, later and he goes on to win the super bowl. And I know who I'd have to have on there. Derek Carr, Derek Carr would have to be in my top 10.

Do you enjoy, before we get to Matthew Stafford, let's do Derek Carr. Why is Derek Carr saying that everybody's counting them out? Is that an actual thing that's happening in your hallways over there at ESPN? Cause I don't think Chandler Jones is brought in. They're spending a bunch of money. McDaniels is there.

Derek Carr is there. Hunter Renfro just signed a deal. Devontae Adams just signed a deal. I think expectations are very high, I think, for the Raiders for the first time a long time, right? Oh, yeah. And I like the fact that Derek is somehow maybe, you know, he's just trained to be like, everybody thinks we're going to stink.

Everybody thinks we're going to stink. And then he goes out with balls and he wins games. But it feels like this is the year almost they've gotten the most love, don't you think? And is Derek Carr going to get to showcase who he's the guy this year, you think? Not that he hasn't in the past, but like back in the national prominence because when the Colts played the Raiders Christmas Eve,

Derek Carr was quarterback. He was going to be MVP. The Raiders Christmas Eve Derek Carr was quarterback he was going to be MVP the Raiders were going then an unfortunate sack in which Derek's leg was literally twisted off of his knee almost at the thing yeah he gets injured kind of disappears then the Raiders leave Oakland they go to Las Vegas they have a lot of drama around it do you think this is the year where Carr's name is back in the national limelight and the national spotlight conversation that's happening, unlike your shows and other shows? Yeah, it has to be.

But he's no longer allowed to be good. Now with Devonta, he's got to go be great. I think this is the year that they've gotten the most appreciation. That division, as everyone knows, is just brutal. And it's the first year that we can legitimately say teams other than the Chiefs, we feel confident that they're going to at least give the Chiefs everything they can to win the division. All three of those other teams. I think this is about Derek.

Derek's been really good. He's got four straight years of 4,000 yards. But the thing is, in that four-year span of 4,000 yards and playing good football, he averages like 23 touchdowns and 10 interceptions those seasons. Good numbers, certainly not great numbers. I think he's been really clutch in certain moments. But, dude, you can't go throw for 26 touchdowns and nine interceptions this year because you've got three of the bests.

You have one of the, if not the best wide receivers in football. Devontae, Hunter. You have one of the, if not the best slot wide receivers in football in run throw. And then you have one of the, if not the best pass catching tight end in football in Waller. So you've got three of the bests. That offensive line specifically on the right side is going to be the big issue. But with the money that they've given Derek, it's that he's past that, he's past that point now of, okay, really good. You've got to be so great that you win games because of him.

And then you cover up some of the other deficiencies on your offensive roster. Dan quickly to follow up on the point you just made there. I think it was, you, you've said it a few times. I don't know where it started, but you basically said the offense coordinators are being irresponsible if they're not utilizing every single yard on the field because the way the rules are set up and

the way schemes are set up these days with what you can do. You think McDaniel's going to have a fucking field day with Devontae, Hunter, and Darren? I mean, that is, you can create space everywhere there, right? That's all you could ever ask for. Yeah, and I think that those of our receivers, I mean, Dev job is going to be I don't want to say easier than

ever but I'll throw another name out there for people to pay attention to and it's Foster Morrow shout out to Will Compton for the proper pronunciation of that but you know the the Raiders have a really good multiple tight end package as well and I think that that's going to put binds on defenses and Devante's going to get a ton of one-on-ones and really good multiple tight end package as well. And I think that that's going to put Bynes on defenses and Devontae's going to get a ton of one-on-ones and really good matchups and the same with Hunter. So, I mean, Josh McDaniels has for 15 years been a guy that has either grew up or ran the offense that was all about creating.

Mismatch. Creating, I'm going to take a better player, get them on a lesser player in more area and let that guy be win more than he should. And I think that's going to be that offense has the chance to be top five, top six in the league. The Raiders will be all about if their defense doesn't stink or not. Matthew Stafford, uh,

to get back to that, but by the way, I'm pumped for the Raiders. Yeah, me too. Let's go. Yeah. Love me.

Yeah, no doubt. Las Vegas is also a lot. Yeah, me too. Let's go. Yeah. Love McDarrius. Yeah, no doubt. Las Vegas is also alive. Yeah, pretty sweet. That stadium, they sold,

they made the most amount of money on ticket sales this year. The Las Vegas Raiders. That stadium is off the charts. I haven't been to it even though like the draft

is out there in the Pro Bowl, but I heard that stadium is just off the charts. Yeah, I mean, I was in there like the second week it was open, third week it was open for SummerSlam last charts. Yeah, I mean, I was in there like the second week

it was open, third week it was open for SummerSlam last year. Yep. And Garth Brooks, I think, was the only one that had done a concert in there.

And their entire POS system crashed. Yeah, not good. This was one of the first ones, but I think they got that out of the way and it has been nothing

but glowing reviews because when you look at it, it's beautiful. I mean, it's absolutely beautiful. It's huge. of the way, and it has been nothing but glowing reviews because when you look at it, it's beautiful. I mean, it's absolutely beautiful. It's huge, and the way they have it set up is very Vegas-y. It's like a good time. I hope they have nothing but success over there. Good luck to the Raiders.

I'm excited for it. Before the boys have their questions for you, Dan, Matthew Stafford, why do you think, now I know Derek Carr says nobody ever thinks anything of him. Matthew Stafford, do you think it's just because he was with the Lions and they stunk for so bad why he doesn't really get chatted about much? He's so fucking good at the football, and I don't think there's many people that give him any credit at all for it.

I think he's partly, but I think it's just his persona is so quiet. His personality is so quiet. I mean, the AT&T commercial that AT&T has run 454 million times was like the most publicity he's ever had. He doesn't have social media. He's not like, you know, a guy that in interviews is going to give some great quotes. So I think, I mean, if you just look at the top 10, that top 10 list, he's probably him and Herbert are two of the most reserved guys on that list. So I think that's a little bit part of it as well.

And, you know, he went to a place that was super talented, had a brainiac as a head coach. So maybe that minimizes what people think his impact actually was. But I've said it for years now and so have other people in the league. Like, just watch if you've either played with or played against. You know, talent-wise, he's as good as anybody that's coming in the league. Like, just watch. If you've either played with or played against, you know, talent-wise, he's as good as anybody that's coming to the NFL. Talent-wise, I know Aaron's widely thought of as the most talented thrower of the football or one of the. Matthew Stafford can go throw for throw with Aaron.

All right. Okay. Don't be stupid, Dan. I don't know. Dan, don't be stupid. Don't be dumb. He can I don't know. Dan, don't be stupid. Don't be dumb. He can go throw for throw with them. I bet you Aaron would tell you that.

He loves nine. He's actually said, well, I mean, who knows after the whole, you know, meme thing that happened between the two. But, yeah, he's caught. You saw it. No, you saw it. Come on, Dan. You saw it. Come on, Dan. You saw it.

You know, Dan. I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Really? There's a meme with the two of them. Well, there is a meme with a quote that wasn't a real, which happened yesterday on the Internet, by the way. actually a quote from somebody that somebody thought was a quote from somebody responded to quote from somebody kind of buried somebody while putting over husband who's also very good you don't remember this whole situation i don't remember it but i know you're talking about you know you remember yeah because listen i'm a fan of the staffords as well you and i both i'm a

fan of the staffords kelly saw a quote that wasn't a real quote from Aaron. Aaron's probably in Costa Rica at some time. When this quote came out from Aaron Rodgers about being the best quarterback in any division in the NFC North's history, basically. Not a real Aaron quote. Why would Aaron say that? She said, maybe in Chicago and Minnesota, not Detroit or whatever. And it caused uproar on the internet. Remember?

Because he's like, Stafford and Aaron Rodgers are beefing. And I would assume Aaron didn't even have a phone on him. He came back to it maybe a week or two later and was like, what happened? And that whole thing. You remember that. I don't think either of those guys care about that stuff, though. I think either of those guys are like, yeah, whatever. No, I concur completely.

But you just acting. I mean. It's tough. You think throw you throw for throw yeah go back through the reel what go hit the recipe go hit the highlights what the cowboys throw i mean the cowboys are the car the lions throw i mean there is just so many that is just like ping ping poop in the biggest moments you're saying stafford could do all that and more. Well, yeah, not and more. How about in the end zone?

Remember in the end zone? Three people crashed. It was Devontae right over top in a minute. I think it was third and 11 or something like that. Yeah, in the fourth quarter. Yeah. How about that net?

How about that net? I can bring up... Oh, the training camp net. You think Stafford? All right. I mean, we'll see. Oh, the training camp net. You think Stanford? All right. I mean, we'll see. That thing's like this big, 60 yards away. The training camp net stuff isn't that hard, dude.

All right. Bet. Okay, Dan, where are we going to put you and Annette at? And then let's just get you in the Thunderdome. Need you to come to the Thunderdome when it opens up. And we will put, we have the yardage. We'll put a field outside for you to go. You think, what are you talking about?

It's not that hard. It's like a fucking, it's this big, the fucking net. No, it's not. That net that he's thrown into is like three feet big. Oh, no. Minimize it. Look at this guy. Oh, wow.

Unbelievable. So when you watch, when you watch the college kids from the 50-yard line hit the crossbar, is that like, oh, my gosh, impressive? No, because they're throwing it probably as hard as they can. So it's just like setting up a trick shot in which you put a ball or a hole somewhere, and then you just throw it as hard as you can. How far does it go? Boom, it goes right there.

Not that impressive. You don't have to have any touch. This is touch, accuracy, and bomb time yeah like saying it's not a really good throw but it's not like he's the only human being in the world like on the planet earth making that throw guy no i understand but first time every time it seems like this guy oh wait that's his first oh yeah every time yes pit vipers on walking into training camp hey let me see that ball It seems like this guy. Oh, that's your first rep? Oh, yeah, first rep. Every time. Yes. Pit Vipers on walking into training camp. Hey, let me see that ball. Let me see that ball real quick.

Let me spin this fucking thing around. Oh, okay. Bang, right in here. All right, context. For like first time, walk out and drill it. Yes, that is very. I'm talking. Well, you know why?

He's taking 20 reps and one of them went down. Hey, you know why, Dan? You know why? Why? Because the guy, whether you like him or not, is the most talented fucking ball thrower of all time. I like him or not. Huh? Don't start phrasing stuff like that, whether I like him or not.

You know, some of the stuff he's been saying. He was saying a lot. You almost took that quote from that meme that Kelly took and almost said it right there. I could hear it. No, I understand what you that meme that Kelly took and almost said it right there. I could hear it. No, I understand what you're saying, though, and he said the same thing. And watching Stafford do the shit he does,

I'm so happy he got out of Detroit. I think they're the team to beat this year in the NFC, the Rams. I mean, I don't think that's a crazy statement, but I think it's the Rams the team to beat for sure. How about in the AFC? Let's go to Lamar Jackson because you're a big fan, as are we, by the way. And I don't know, maybe he was just waiting for the Kyler deal to get done so that there would be a little bit more study of the market.

What's the market going to do? What's the expectation? Because he does rep himself. Who knows if a deal will get done or not? Last year, a lot of adversity with COVID and injuries, and now lose Hollywood Brown. What do you expect out of Lamar? And are they in the running, you think, in the AFC? The Bengals are in there, obviously now lose Hollywood Brown. What do you expect out of Lamar, and are they in the running,

you think, of the AFC? The Bengals are in there, obviously right next to him. The Bills are the favorites for, I think, the entire NFL. The Chiefs still exist. Chiefs still exist. Matt Ryan came to Indianapolis. Everybody can suck it. And Mike Vrabel is still the head coach of the Tennessee Titans.

What do you think of the AFC, and what do you think about Lamar Jackson's bounce back year after last year maybe didn't work out perfectly for them? Yeah, I can give you eight legitimate teams in that conference that are real, like real Super Bowl contenders. Eight, which is obviously half the conference, which is insane. I would tell you this in regards to Lamar and Baltimore. They were, through week 12 last year or week 13,

were the number one seed in the AFC, and he was the MVP of the National Football League. And that was with historic injury loss on their football team. So to think that they aren't going to be equally as good or as dangerous as anybody in the AFCFC and he's not going to be in the MVP conversation is outrageous. I think Lamar is going to come into this year and have a giant middle finger up to prove a lot of people who have said a lot of stuff about him this offseason incorrectly. I think they're going to go back to a little bit of that 2018-2019 offense

with multiple tight ends and be less dependent on the wide receivers. And when I think of Lamar, I think of two things, Pat. When he sat down, I think it was on the bronze show, he said he's motivated by two things. He wants to win a Super Bowl and he wants to be a billionaire. And I think that he doesn't feel that he is capable of becoming that billionaire right now until he goes and wins a Super Bowl. Because once he does that, he goes to say, you've got to pay me $400 million.

So I think that's just where he is. I think he's a crazy confident kid. As he should be. You think that it – because remember, in high school, he was doing what he was doing, and they were like, yeah, but we'll work college. Louisville is the team that's like, we think it will work here. Then it does, obviously, has great success, and everybody's like,

who's your agent? Me and my mom are going to handle it or whatever. They're giving you bad advice. You should be a wide receiver. You should be a slot wide receiver. You should work out at wide receiver. Nope, I'm a quarterback. You won't be able to do what you did at Louisville.

Okay, Louisville. You won't be able to do what you did at Louisville in the men's league. That's not how it goes. Everybody's fast. Then he gets in the league. Same exact fucking thing. His entire life he's been able to shake the shit out of whoever. And I think he should be crazy confident. You think that he's being patient with the contract because if he wins again, if they already want to play off game, right?

He's won an MVP. They want to play off game. If they take the step, the value only goes up and up and he's just betting on himself, you think? Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And I would imagine he's sitting there going back to my initial point of, dude, we were the one seed last year with four or five games to go with all those injuries. If our team stays healthy, there's nobody in the NFL that we can't beat. And I think that's the way he's looking at it. Look how good we are. We were with all the bad stuff. And I think if if they stay healthy and he plays remotely close to the way he did with the supporting cast around him. Like, yeah, they very much so can win the whole thing. I think they're that good. I think he's that talented, and I think he's that competitive.

So 250 M's guaranteed. It's easy. It's easy deals. Give me a quarter of a billion dollars guaranteed. I'll go win a Super Bowl if you need it. We can't thank you enough for joining us, Dan. The boys have a couple questions. Is that okay, quick?

Of course. Of course for joining us, Dan. The boys have a couple questions. Is that okay, quick? Of course. Of course. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Dan, now that the roles for the Patriots head coaches have been announced, do they mean anything, one? And does it give you any more confidence in Mac Jones or no? My confidence in Mac Jones is as high as it can be. I'm just not confident in the situation.

I don't know. I tried to sit here and figure out, okay, how come there's no titles for anybody, essentially? There's no offensive coordinator, no defensive coordinator. The Patriots have notoriously been positionless in many ways in football. So it seems like they're going some ways positionless in their coaching staff. ways positionless in their coaching staff. I just, dude, I sit here and I go in that conference, given the fact that the offense is talented, but not overly talented, year two of a quarterback that I think the world of, and they got worse when it came to one of their strengths, and that was Josh McDaniels. And I look in the division. If we just look at who's really good at the play calling in the division,

I have more faith in Ken Dorsey than I have whatever situation is in New England. Certainly Mike McDaniel in Miami than whatever's in New England. Michael Floor was really good the last eight games of the year for the Jets. There's so much of it. I don't know if I've ever seen it before, so my confidence in Mack is sky high. I just, dude, the guy who's looking over the quarterbacks

called quarterback sneak on third and ten last year. I don't know what to take from that. I have faith in Bill Belichick. Sure, but if it wasn't Bill Belichick, if this was... We've said that for if this was what the heck are we doing we've said that for 20 years though time and time again right and it just always seems to work out and maybe

we are at the time where it doesn't oh no no bull that could happen that sounds like bull i'd love to know the reasoning i'd love to love to know the why of the reason that they're doing it. You know? I would love to know. Bill probably doesn't want to bring anybody new into his shit at this stage. Bingo. You know what I mean? They don't want teams to be prepared for the third and ten sneak.

Uh-huh. If they name Joe Judge. Joe Judge ain't calling a third and ten sneak. I don't think with Bill Belichick over his shoulder. I'd cut him down at the knees. Hey, Bill Belichick said, I love punters, and I understand I love punting, but there ain't no reason to put a quarterback in a position

and get fucked up to go ahead and punt. But it technically did bring someone new in. I mean, Joe Judge was not there last year. I know he has a past there, but so does Bill O'Brien. Bill O'Brien, though, he's, hey. He also was at practice. He was at practice trying to help him,

and he's trying to, what, remodel his entire thing and go be a head coach again. Yeah, I mean, there's plenty of coaches who have New England ties throughout the NFL. Oh, yeah. I don't know. Maybe Bill said, I've never got an opportunity to showcase my incredible

play-calling abilities. Let's go ahead and put a full belt. I feel like if you had told me that Bill O'Brien was there or a guy from New England's past that had called plays before I'd be much more bullish on the New England offense

no bull I'm super hesitant on that offense I just I think play calling is a completely different experience than people give it credit for. Cause you've listened and experienced, uh, some decisions that have either pissed off the starting quarterback. And when everybody in the quarterback room is going,

why are we doing this time and time again? And you've also been on a play when a play or on the field, when a call comes in and you go, why are we doing this? You think that is not something that's appreciated enough? Dude, I've been, I've, I've been on the headset either with guys calling the plate directly to me

or hearing the plate to the starter of guys like Mike Martz, one of the great offensive minds in the league, Gary Kubiak, Kyle Shanahan. I've been on the headset for Sean McVay. And then I've been on the headset for guys where I'm like, yo, what? What? McVay. And then I've been on the headset for guys where I'm like, yo, what, what, you know? And it just, because you know, football doesn't mean you can call plays.

And I've been around some coaches that were really good. And then when we got into the game, it became a completely different world for them. You're saying a little bit of a puckered situation. It's just hard, man. Dude, think about it. I try to tell people all the time, dude, you got like eight seconds to get the right call in. That's like the refs too. We never talk about it. And this is just hard, man. Dude, think about it. I try to tell people all the time, dude, you got like eight seconds to get the right call in. Can't even fart. That's like the refs, too.

We never talk about it, and this is just a completely different thing. We never think about, like, are the coaches gamers? And then next step, are these refs gamers? Can this ref handle the moment to throw the flag? Can this coach handle this happening with a lot of, hey, a lot of passion on those headsets, too, from what I've heard, from multiple different things you just kind of got to figure it out and play Madden live and in person.

Go ahead, Tony. Dan, let's hypothetically say that you agree with me, that you think the Finns, the Eagles, and the 49ers have a playoff-worthy roster. Which quarterback of those three teams are you most confident in? Jalen. Jalen right now, just because I've seen Jalen do nothing but develop and get better and better. And I think because of the work ethic that you hear about the young man, the character and the leadership,

and kind of his upbringing and his past at Alabama, I just think that he's going to take another step forward. We watched Jalen go really last year from the first month being like, okay, and then months two and three were pretty good, and then he finished strong. And I think that just because of that development, I love San Francisco. I think Trey Lance is going to be really good. Dude, he hasn't played football in a year, and he's got the least amount of passing attempts ever for a first-round quarterback.

So, like, this is a kid who's got to play, and that offense is not easy. Matt Ryan will tell you, there is so much verbiage in that offense, and they tell you, like, that's not an easy offense. So, I think that, you know what'm i'm really bullish on two i'm really high on two as well i think he's in the ideal place to go thrive i never say quarterback should fit into a place you should thrive um you know what i'll i'll take that back i i'll put tua over over Jalen just because that's a big deal I I I think that is in the exact world and I said this and I know people like I said this when the move was made Mike McDaniel as the head coach for the Dolphins comes from the Kyle Shanahan play-action pass world.

And Tua, when he was kind of at his best at Bama, was under Steve Sarkeesian, who's the head coach at Texas, who learned a little bit of offense for two years in Atlanta under Kyle Shanahan. So I think that just the understanding and the familiarity of that scheme, what the goal is, and putting Tua in really good places. Obviously the talent is really good down there in Miami as well. So I think Tua's primed for a

big, big, big third season. I'd say Tua and Jalen, two guys that are really high on. Okay, young quarterbacks that are going to carry the league for the next 10 years possibly, or on their way out. That's the reality of what the NFL is. Hope they both succeed. Hope every of what the NFL is. Hope they both succeed. Hope every team wins the Super Bowl.

Hope every person makes a billion dollars. That's not reality except for our man who's the face of ESPN for the next 220 days. Ladies and gentlemen, former NFL quarterback, now ESPN pundit, Monday Night Football commentator,

Saturday afternoon commentator, an absolute stallion and champion. Ladies and gentlemen, Dan Orlowski. Thank you, buddy. What have you learned about people down in Texas, AJ, since you're closely affiliated with the Texas Tech legend, Graham Harrell? Oh, man. I feel like I just saw something walking through

the airport. Jimbo said no ill will toward Nick Saban, so they kind of squashed it. SEC media days are happening, and they all had to speak. Lane Kiffin, he speaks – his cadence and rhythm, very similar to Saban. Once he gets going, he sounded a lot like Saban as he was talking. I know he grew up in the football world, and he coached for Saban. Him talking about the NIL from the SEC has come up where he basically just said,

hey, whoever's got the most money is going to win recruiting. Like that's just how it goes. He just said, we all kind of saw this coming from a mile away. It happened, Lane Kiffin. That was a good clip that came out of there. Shane Beamer, coach of South Carolina, he's kind of sneakily won SEC media days kind of. He hopped up out of bed turned his swag on

took a look in the mirror and said what's up and then at a press conference he said I'm not too old to not remember Soulja Boy and then he also chit chatted about South Carolina the school the state and what's the genuine and authenticity of him

and his coaching staff which is winning over there Jimbo saying he doesn't hate Nick Saban came out of there what else genuine and authenticity of him and his coaching staff, which is winning over there. Jimbo saying he doesn't hate Nick Saban came out of there. What else? I think what's-his-name still has his southern Louisiana accent. Brian Kelly. Brian Kelly loves family. Family. Food, football, and family down here.

He got rid of faith when he left Notre Dame. He put in food. I saw that. He said, should have got down here a lot earlier, shouldn't I, y'all? I know there's only three Fs down here. There's three Fs in every other place I've been, but this one I'm placing faith with food, and I can get behind that. I'm here for food, football, and family.

That's what Brian Kelly said. Let me throw up them meals. I did see something, though. Didn't he say, hey, if they want me to dance, I've got to dance. Didn't he say that? Well, I think that is college coaching now at this point. Yeah. But he admitted it.

They asked him, I think, what are you doing? So I'm like, hey, lean into it, bud. I get it. Yeah, what if he just started doing his. He should just go full go. Like just go putt. I could never be a college football coach, so I got a lot of respect for those that could.

But if a 17-year-old is telling me I got to fly to his house, you know, do a dance, make him food, send a tweet out for him to come to my school, I don't think I care about my school being good enough at that point. There's zero chance of me giving a single fuck about that 17-year-old. So I got a lot of respect for those coaches that ultimately want to transition these boys uh to men maybe but they want to boys to men and like you know change lives and everything want to win football games really all that matters but in the process they dedicate a lot of their

life to transitioning uh you know for all their players i respect that i don't got enough care i just ain't got it. And that's why I'll never be a coach. Might be easier. Hey, but think about it right now. It could be easier with the NIL deal. You don't really have to recruit if you bring in the most money and you can offer the most money to these players.

So that could kind of take a little bit of that off your shoulders. Well, that coach still had to sing Justin Bieber's Baby. That got sent through the text message. Oh, yeah. Do you remember that? Do you remember when we found out? Yeah, who was that? Tom Herman, I think. messages. Oh, yeah. Do you remember that? Do you remember when we found out? Who was that? Tom Herman, I think.

Baby, baby, baby. Bieber's good, though. Yeah, and he's hot. But what we're saying is an adult, you know, having to do that. You don't have to. Yeah, I mean, I guess. I don't know. I would be curious to see, like, what.

I'm guessing Luke Fickle's not doing that, but it's a different thing. It's Cincinnati, then he has to do other places. But I don't know. I do like that. I do like that. We've seen Saban line dancing. Yes. And obviously Saban is the cold shoulder, hard-ass game day.

And then we'll soon do interviews and, you know, kind of similar. But then we hear about recruiting stories, and it's like Saban's out on a boat. He's dancing, having a good time. Our boss is sleeping over, staying the weekend. I was at a kicker. It was at Norton Quinn. Quinn Nordine. Quinn Nordine.

He's a real estate agent now. A lot of kickers. No, wait. He's a pre-zombie practice squad, actually. Could you imagine what AJ would have made the coach do? He probably would have made him eat like 200 shrimp or something. All right, you and me, we're eating hard-boiled eggs until we puke. Stick your hand in this piranha tank.

Oh, that's awesome. That is absolutely awesome absolutely awesome what do you think fickle is doing you said that ohio fickle ain't he ain't singing or dancing for any of these recruits and if he has to doesn't want him as a fucking bear cat no that's what he does though he recruits like his kind of guys i feel like that are athletes that are gonna stick with it he develops them i'm sure luke can be very very charming so i'm sure when he goes in those living rooms he is he's a super polite like person so but also he could kill you easily and rip your rip your you know your larynx out and just walk out the front door uh vrabel and fickle they were like best friends i'm sure they still are all right let's say they just so happen to have to. Oh, gosh.

Kill or be killed. Actual death on the line. Yes. Actual death on the line. I think Braves and Luke would take Luke. I was just having this conversation with somebody the other day. Holy shit. Holy shit. Not against Luke, but I was saying like Luke, I'd put Luke up against.

No matter what happens. Holy shit. That was me. Not only is the greatest human alive, he's also the toughest and could be the scariest at the same time. So I wouldn't mess with him. Wow. Really?

Three-time state champ wrestler in high school. He could still knock anybody out. But Vrabes is a guy that we heard drink two cases of beer, smoke four packs of cigarettes, go through three tins of dip, have two vapes, and still win all of the gassers and sprints and lead the team in tackles and everything like that. The next morning. Yeah, Luke is one of those guys that he's just too tough for his own good. Like he would just – I don't know how to describe it.

I really don't. How about that? So you think – the way you said that is like braves would agree with you yeah i i think next time you see braves and he tries to put his big meat paw on your shoulder and you you bow up and you pass that test ask him i'm sure he'll be pissed at me maybe but you know what i gotta ride with luke because i know luke no matter what he will never ever if you killed luke what you couldn't do he'll find a way to come back alive and get you

oh he's like that piranha that you had whenever the when they got out of the tank rest in peace when the tank broke and he lived for

nine hours yeah like 14 hours I think 14 hours he was on he tried to get himself to a sink maybe dog

Vrabel's hand was this big went around my arm massive paw like his thumb hit me right in the pec and then his god damn pinky was over here just grabbing my shoulder blade it was unbelievable

I'm like what the fuck Jesus I'm way too high for this then I did that interview that hit the internet yesterday oh you posted that I saw a little bit of that yeah by the way I didn't know who I was talking to on the other side because I was just staring at a camera, and there was no TV, no nothing. And I have an earpiece on, and I'm sitting on a patio.

But I'm on cloud 90 at the time. Hey, you do a couple interviews. You got it. The guy drops in. Oh, you're going to Chicago. Oh, okay, good. You're in Chicago. Hey, this is Cat.

Right into the interview. I mean, there wasn't even like, Hey, how you doing? I couldn't see anything. It felt real old school. And there was numerous times I forgot that I was on camera. I thought there was a chance maybe it's radio. Maybe it's a podcast. I was on camera the whole time.

And I'll tell you what. I did not try to open my eyes at all. It didn't seem like it in that entire thing. It was sunny out there, too. It was super bright off the lake. Yeah, come on. It was behind me. Come on.

It was still. Lights. Reflecting off the... They had lights in front of you though they had lights the camera lights on so many it was a big production of course too many tony romo was also standing inside so his superstardom light yeah oh yeah uh-huh did the guy say anything to you when you first popped on like hey oh hey what's up pat how's it going there was a quick one of those and then right i mean each one I did. And it's hard to separate them all now at this point, to be honest. But it was just like right into it, right into it, right into it.

I was supposed to do the NFL Network on Total Access. That would have been, that would have been pretty awesome. Who knows how that would have gone. But we couldn't get the connection to work. I could hear them. They couldn't hear me. We were trying to work through it for like 90 seconds or so, you know? And then the guy says, sorry about it, hangs up on me.

I was like, all right. Who is that guy, I asked. Who was that, just so I know? And they're like, we'll try to get a name for you. I'm like, thank you. Thank you. I would like to know who just said, fuck off. It's not my fault.

I'm too high for that. I'm trying to make this work for you, pal. I want to be on Teddle Access. Legendary show. Did you hear Rich? Hey, I think he made news, right? Yeah. Rich Eisen, no longer at NFL Network.

Did you hear this? I did not hear that. Was his contract up or something happened? They said he's set to be a free agent, so that would mean his contract's up. Has that been legitimized or is that just like rumor? A lot of rumors in the sports media world as we have. Yeah. You think he stays though right

I believe it was reported as fact That he was a free agent on Twitter He signed a four year deal in 2018 Zito just said in my ear So he's a free agent Rich Eisen on the move Where's he going? More NFL game day on Sunday

Rich to live I am rather certain Rich Eisen will not. I am rather certain that Rich Eisen is not. You never know. Rich is a, hey, to Rich's credit, all the time, like, hey, do the right thing guy, it feels like. Honestly, like all the time. Always like that. And I don't know if he would.

I guess we'd have to do some research on what he has said in the past about Liv. I'm sure he knows where he's going, right? Yeah, even more so. I don't know if he would I guess we'd have to do some research On what he has said in the past about Liv I'm sure he knows where he's going I don't know The news was broke Wouldn't NFL Network be trying to re-up him And him saying I'm good I got something in the line Maybe but dude

Not that we know anybody I just can't imagine NFL Network would let him go AJ He does everything I feel like for them AJ I'm not saying NFL Network would let him go. AJ? He does everything I feel like for them. AJ, I'm not saying NFL Network. I'm not saying an NFL Network specifically because I do not know this particular situation. I have no idea.

I haven't been in the NFL Network studios in probably 10 years at this point. I actually have no idea who's over there, who's running things. No clue. There's idiots fucking everywhere. AJ, what do you mean? There's people making terrible decisions every single day. And if you keep Rich, is that a great decision?

A lot of people will say yes. We would say yes because we're friends with him. If you get rid of him, some people would be pumped about it. But who knows what's on the other side? There's idiots everywhere, AJ, in powerful positions. I'm not saying that's happening in NFL Network. I'm just saying everywhere. We have no idea what should be expected and what's not expected

because there's bad decisions happening on a regular basis in the nepotism-filled profession of sports media, AJ. I mean, you're correct. I mean, it probably was a dumb question to even ask. I knew the answer,

but are we seeing something like, is Rappaport trying to take more of a hosting gig? He's going to have more stuff. Not only inside, but he's going to be a host guy driving the ship. Can we get a little bit more Real Housewives on the behind the scenes of what's going on at NFL Network right now? Who's trying to step on whose throat to get to the top of the whole thing?

Rich Eisen is on the record saying Liv Golf is tearing apart golf and destroying golf. Okay. So he's not going to Liv Golf. Mark it off. You never know, though. I don't know. A lot of people who went said things about it.

off you never know though i don't know a lot of people who went said things about it so charles barkley um is publicly negotiating right now about his situation with live this is getting interesting because he was asked about it on the pgas sirius xm channel like pga radio on sirius xm why did you have him on uh because he was at a golf tournament he loves golf i think they're just kind of i don't even know. Good interview. Does old Monaghan want Charles on there talking live golf on the PGA Network? I have no idea how or what the plan was, but everybody had to know it was going to come up. I guess golf ratings are up, by the way, believe it or not.

Golf ratings are up with all this because there is a little intrigue, I think, in the sport. So all the golf purists saying this is going to ruin golf. Golf might be more popular now than it has been since the Tiger run, whenever he was kind of doing his whole thing. So is this good for golf? I guess we will still TBD. But Charles Barkley openly negotiating, kind of, through this entire thing,

is a great piece of business happening here will he end up at live we have no idea but him saying in interviews and conversations about if he was to go to live well i probably have to leave tnt that's a that's a big salary a lot of my endorsements are probably going to go away that's a big salary so they're going to have to put together a pretty large number for me to potentially go there but i'd be an idiot not to take the meeting is basically what Charles Barkley is saying. And I think he's 100% accurate with that. Could TNT for – you think TNT – this would be interesting. TNT being like, if you go with them, you can't work with us.

When Turner doesn't have any golf rights, right? Nope. So do they have any – Just the match. No. I think they have one in the PGA too. I think they have one major, at least one major. They have within the past few years. So they have a relationship with the PGA then?

For sure. So do they have a current relationship with the PGA? Let me look it up. I don't know. I didn't think that. I know the PGA championship was on Turner at least within the last five years. Wait, would they be pressured, though? Like, would people pressure them to say, you got to get rid of Chuck?

There's no way. Chuck is the most popular guy. That show is Chuck. I know. Well, that's why everybody's pissed off now that Chuck's even taking the meeting, because there's a chance that we're going to lose fucking great television. I think people would be pissed at TNT if they let him roll. See, I think you're misreading the situation. I think you let him roll. See, I think you're misreading the situation.

I think you are. What's that? I think you're misreading the situation. I might be. I don't know. Like, is he, I guess, so he even said, like, he hasn't even talked to TNT about this? No, he said he might just, he might have to.

Well, then there was a report, right, that TNT wouldn't let him out of his. There's a chance. Yeah. Because then there was a conversation. Open dialogue came from that statement to like tnt could just say no yeah we won't let you do that and then the first article that zito just saw in the back espn replaced turner in 2018 yeah it says october 10 2018 it was announced that espn would replace tnt as the pga championship cable partner

beginning in 2020 so that's what for two years then guess, they haven't had a deal with PGA. Will PGA come back to Turner is probably what Turner's trying to figure out. And Charles Barkley, maybe he's just saying that because that's how the PGA Tour operated. Like, hey, you go there, you can't come here, you do this, you can't do this. It's all, this is... He said he might have to resign, right, in that article that you popped up. Yeah, what if they don't let him? He can resign.

They're going to force him to work and say you can't go to Liv? Is that a non-compete with Liv? I have no idea. Is it because of the match? What's that? Is this because of the match? The match is owned by Phil, isn't it? Yeah.

And they wrote it on TNT. I think so. I think he's one of the founders, yeah. Still? Great question. Hey, his book came out. I'm listening's one of the founders, yeah. Yeah. Still? Great question. Hey, his book came out. I'm listening to it, actually, now. Is he talking?

No, it's that book that came out that started, I guess, the off-the-record comments. Alan Shipnick wrote it, I guess. I don't know how long it came out. I just downloaded it. I've been listening. It just started. It sounds like it's going to be pretty good. A lot of stories from different golfers.

Yeah, it just seems pretty interesting. Oh, it's going to get a little juicy. You're a big book guy, huh? Audio book guy. I like it's going to be pretty good. A lot of stories from different golfers. Yeah, it just seems pretty interesting. It's going to get a little juicy. You're a big book guy, huh? Audio book guy. I listen to books like that, absolutely. Have you listened to all of these books? I've read most of those. I've actually read with my eyeballs.

Read with your eyeballs instead of with your ear holes? Yes. Apparently, the Tom Segura book on audio book is unbelievable because it's just him. So it's just like a book of stand-up. There's a great brain. Tom Segura book on audiobook is unbelievable because it's just him. So it's just a book of stand-up. There's a great brain. Tom Segura can do stand-up in Spanish and English, has the work ethic that you would need to become whatever blue-collar job you can need, and his stories are all...

I mean, I guess I'm seeing the tail end of his, like, here he is now, but I don't think he's ever not fucking hit a home run. I feel like that's one of those. Always funny. Always. Tom Segura, always funny. Him doing like full blown Spanish speaking comedy shows too. He has to tour the entire, what, Central America and South America.

To the Spanish speaking community that only listens to Spanish speaking, you know, and they're judging him versus them and he's just yeah i grew up in a spanish-speaking family it's no problem yeah i could be the biggest stand-up comedian in spanish and english no big deal if i want it's it's amazing i like that kevin hart's getting back out there he's doing arenas and theaters again feels like he's gonna take some time off yeah because he did all those movies he wasn't doing as much stand-up remember the last stand-up we saw him do was in his basement, I think. Yeah, the Netflix one? It was in his basement. I saw some of his documentary.

Was it a documentary series? Series, yeah. Him working out his whole life, basically. He's the EP on a new stand-up on Netflix, too. I think it's one of his guys, and the executive produces the entire production and everything. The Red Solo Cup Boys. Ah, yes. Yeah, i believe it's one of them got his own special on netflix and he is the ep on that because he has heart to heart now which

is that interview series on peacock he has um he started like a comedy network is that still going on lol i think with sirius x emmy has a deal and without the bk kevin hart is a fucking great businessman heartbeat productions right heartbeat productions a bunch of shows like that and he's Kevin Hart is a fucking great businessman. Heartbeat Productions, right? Heartbeat Productions. They do TV and a bunch of shows like that. And he's getting back into stand-up. That's good. Yeah, unbelievable. It's probably nice for him, too, just kind of like,

all right, let me just get back into writing another great hour. There was a couple he had there where he was, say, with a chest. Yep. That kind of just launched. Some of Cat Williams' old stuff, too. I mean, even Cat Williams has some unbelievable, you know, you always reference a few of them hey yeah poor little tink tink man let's get to the phones maybe kevin hart um we'll do the espies now that they were up 42 for the ratings so he that's misinformation what do you mean i would like to correct something that has been

said on this program and i don't like to do this because normally we like to be 100% factual all the time. Always. But we are kind of accused of misinformation worldwide on a regular basis, it feels like, at this point now. That what you just said is not true. The ESPYs were down 42%, I guess. Oh, I didn't see that. Down 42%. I read that wrong.

42%. That's a large number. Wait, what was last year's ESPYs? Was it a COVID ESPYs or what was it? I don't know. I remember we were talking was last year's ESPYs? Was it a COVID ESPYs or what was it? I don't know. Remember, we were talking about it before the ESPYs started and we all realized we hadn't watched the ESPYs in numerous years. It was rough.

No, it was two years. No, that was two years. Exactly. Last year was leading man Anthony Mackie. Yeah. That's right. Remember, we had the same exact conversation on Wednesday before the ESPYs and we said, oh, fuck, we haven't watched it.

Wait a second. It's down 42% from last year's ESPYs second it's down 42 from last year's espies yes did people know last year's espies happened well that's what we so just back to what we were talking about here that's where the problem what we we should have paid more attention that's exactly well that on wednesday we said that we because we're gassing up the s remember wednesday starting to gas up the hey tonight there's always one of those moments and then like oh you know Russ hosted it last year well actually that was

two years ago it was like oh shit like did we even watch how'd Russ oh we didn't watch that one either we realized quickly that we were kind of

definitely a part of the problem because we had known that it existed but then we clearly did not watch it it does stay down

I thought it set up I also read and you know Outkick was not happy to report this. No, no, no, no, no. It's not Steph's fault, though. I also saw somewhere that they said they were stuffing ballot boxes

so certain people would win so they'd get on stage and push their political messages. Jesus Christ. All right. What? Wow. Who?

Let's get to a break. Diggs really watched it start to finish huh i actually did shoot because there's nothing else on i should have watched blackbird hindsight yeah unbelievable it is very good blackbird is very very good not great for indiana but great show sure it's a great great show but i watched those sbs from front to back and all i could think of was just like somebody that i know from home just being like i got my own shit you know yeah and it's like oh this is what people talk about whenever they talk about like doing it not that those aren't very important all very very very important things but sports you know for a long time and i understand it's a big platform and we should make the world a better place. Sports for a long time was an escape from all that. And I think when the awards show celebrating sports

is just very, very serious and very like, hey, you're bad people. You don't help this. It's like, I'm trying to pay my own rent. You know, I just think it's 42% is quite a fucking drop in rent. Yeah, I could have probably guessed that though, based on the replies to your tweet.

If asking, are we watching? We watching the ESPYs? Oh, fuck nobs oh no i'm like oh my god look at that people are very angry about not watching i did not know that was the case almost uh next year though it's gonna be better it's gonna be yeah it's gonna be everything everybody wants it to be let's ride gotta baby aj back in the attic this This Super Bowl, champion. This college football national, champion. What? This Ryder Cup, champion. What? This COVID survivor is back in Ohio for this beautiful Friday.

The talk's at the tables here at Ty Schmidt at Boston Corner. One half of the hammer. Dad. Cowboys, Tony Diggs is here. Obviously got Mitt, Zito, Nick in the back. I like the fact that Mitt didn't even attempt to run the horn there. Nope. That is smart, Mitt. You've been doing fantastic on the ones and twos This week, congrats to you, pal

Dirty, Bruce, Bill Everybody in the back We can't thank you enough Some breaking news International breaking news The NFL's growth into Europe has been a success I think by all accounts. Roger Goodell, I guess at one

point during his tenure, laid out to the NFL owners how they get to a certain number. I forget what billions it was in annual revenue. This is how we get to this number that everybody wants and they said, cool, we got faith

that you'll be able to do it roger it was expanding the game into europe into other continents it started with london and then it built with more in london then around england now for the first time ever they're going to germany and let me tell you about this massive failure the nfl had in germany only three million requests were made for tickets to this fucking game between the seahawks and the buccaneers three million requests for tickets for one nfl game the first of its kind in munich september or november 13th in germany uh at one point there was,000 people simultaneously trying to get one ticket.

What a success for the NFL. What a perfect business move. And what an opportunity for the NFL to showcase a game that we all love to even more people and keep growing this game that has brought so many different people together from so many different

backgrounds. I absolutely love this guten tag more games in germany next year we'd all assume aj i mean i i'm sure the nfl was expecting like they they know that they are king like we're we're we have a pretty big deal and we can we can make some things happen but do you think they had any idea they'd get this kind of response in Germany? Now, there's a lot of second-hand ticket brokers that are trying to get their hands on this ticket as well. Anytime you see that many people requesting something, there's some people trying to take advantage of the situation. And you would hope that the NFL has some certain way to legitimize whoever is buying it that comedians have had to do, musicians have had to do, because the secondhand, what is that? Market. Bingo.

Fucking bingo. The secondhand market is so absurd. Ticket will be $850, and then there's some guy who has bots that's able to get in and buy these tickets for $850, hangs on to them, and is able to sell those for like $7,000 or $8,000. And it's a full business, and you have to respect those people's hustle.

But a lot of the artists and everybody else that's getting fucked out of this whole thing and is doing all the work, they were not necessarily thrilled with it as well. So there's a lot of emailed tickets, and you have to confirm your tickets through everything. But there was some shit going on for like $30,000 a ticket, $80,000 a ticket in this fucking game. Legit. Yeah, legit.

The prices were fucking absurd. And it's because 3 million people want 70,000 tickets. That's pretty good supply-demand if you're the person at the end with the cash in your hand. Look at the bars there. But what does that mean? Okay, they have so much success here. They can play all – I mean, the opportunities are endless, really, when you think about where we – the NFL largely has barely been anywhere

but the United States. Now they're starting to branch off. Oh, man. I mean, this is – so every team every year is going to have at least one game somewhere all over the place. Who knows how many games it is 10 years from now. And the players and coaches are going to hate it. They'll add an extra bye week.

One of them will be immediately following your international game, and then there'll be another bye in there. They'll get that thing up to 18 games, and the international market will just be a weekly thing where in the morning we wake up and there's an early game, then there's a 1 o'clock game, 4 o'clock game, and an 8.30 game. And that will just become the standard operating procedure because they will be raking in so much money.

Think about the TV deals. They add another time slot. They add another time slot. You're right, the early time slot. Yeah, and everyone loves it because on the East Coast, I can wake up and there's a game on. Dan said morning, didn't he? Yeah.

He said Sunday morning. Then he said Saturday was happening. Week 18. So is he talking Saturday morning? Well, they'll probably do that, but they'll have to do it earlier in the season. And I assume just like how when you guys are playing, you would look at the schedule and look when your bye week is. And now you look at the schedule to see when your international game is instead. It's good business for the NFL.

Pat, I have a question for you, though. This question may have been posed on other morning talk shows, maybe on TV, but when do we find the first... When is the first Super Bowl hosted international somewhere else? They would have to get a team. Outside of the U.S.

Wouldn't they have to get a team? Would they do it, though? They don't have to, no. They wouldn't have to be a home team. I think so, because the way it's currently set up is if you build a new stadium. Yeah, and it's like they turn over all the stadiums each year. It seems like there's new. Do you think it'll ever happen though? Do you think we'll ever see a Super Bowl outside

of the U.S.? Yeah, I do. London will have one for sure. Would you even need a team? London will have one for sure. Don't you think? Yeah. But what if they just built a stadium? They would have to have a team. Have to? Even if they were like, hey, hey we're gonna build this stadium strictly for nfl games because they're gonna be coming over here oh yeah and they just use that one nfl stadium as opposed to using like oh yeah uh chelsea or whatever soccer stadiums just have a football cutter has a bunch of extra

ones those are actually just those are soccer stadiums no they're not great they're actually just crates yeah they're just shipping crates. Yeah, shipping containers. There it is. Yeah, shipping containers. So I guess those could go anywhere. I wonder if the NFL will attempt to buy their own land and build their own stadium out there. Why wouldn't they?

Probably just make so much sense. Put a plaza in there, a casino. Yeah, they would have their own Jerry World in these countries. Why wouldn't a current EPL team just pay the NFL to host a Super Bowl over? So what we're saying is we think that there has to be ownership of

stadium for the NFL to go there. So year-round just be like a concert venue? Yeah. Oh my God. The NFL's going to make

so much money. They could probably still host soccer games in it. The Europes will be competing in it at some point. Yeah. And then are any of the current soccer stadiums are they all like we're gonna have to keep up with their state their

stadiums over there are nice hey yeah those how are they different they all of them have the fucking grass it just walks outside and suns itself right they have like the the suites in the the lower entrances like soccer stadiums over there i guess i'm just what does it feel like honestly compared to like what i'm curious because i've seen my buddies that have gone there said it's awesome what how is the seating different or is their viewing better like how do you how do they do it it just feels like a little bit uh high in that it's nice it just feels like uh it's it's just high end yeah it feels very high end that's a great way to it's it feels like high end when you're is that like it's just high end. Yeah, it feels very high end. That's a great way to describe it.

It feels like high end. Is that like it was at one place where I saw people getting curb stomped on the way in or the way out? So that was in, I believe that was in New Mexico. But we talked about, I think it was Tottenham had a new stadium, maybe either last year or the year before when we looked at it, it was state of the art. Unbelievable.

All their seats. Where are they getting that money from? Tottenham? I don't know if that's a Saudi league. Tony, you're a fan of the team. No, I believe they're owned by, is it? 3M? No, I think it's, what's the name of it?

Coca-Cola? No. Guy who owns all the. Pezzos? Is it Kronky? Kronky? That would be a game changer. Really?

Whatever team won, Kroenke had. How nice would that be, I guess, to just be able to buy? What do you want to do? You want to go to Europe? Well, we might as well have a team there, right? If we're going to go for a week or two, might as well have at least a horse and race. Yeah, you're right.

Have our own stadium, our own suite. Need a helicopter landing thing, helipad. Right on top of the stadium. Right on top of the stadium. So when people know that I fucking. Sorry, Kroenke's Arsenal. Let them know fucking daddy's here. It looks like for like comparing us to like European leagues, we own them on like capacity by like 30,000.

Yeah, they're much smaller, right? Yes, yeah. Stadium's smaller. Their largest is 75,000. That's Manchester United and then our largest. Didn't you say they're all seats though, Connor? The NFL. Yeah, it's all comfortable, I think our largest Dallas Cowboys. Didn't you say they're all seats, though, Connor? The NFL, yeah, it's all comfortable, I think. But they all stand.

They all stand, too. The NFL is going to go build 100,000 capacity. It's even more of a reason. They're going to do it. I wonder how far, because if our dumbasses are only thinking of this right now, that means the NFL has already thought about this. They're already having it. They already own land, I'm sure, all over.

Because there is farmland over there. We were staying at a golf course, and we drove through a bunch of it to get to the city. Those countries over there are small, man. Tiny. They are small. So none of the English stadiums are indoor. They'd have to build an indoor one because England has winter.

So a retractable roof, you're welcome. Introduce that. That's what the NFL is going to do, huh? How will England feel about it? I mean, I think they'd be pumped if it's just one. I guess, granted, you could probably do a lot more of the international games at that stadium year-round, which will even make it more of

an event. Like, hey, we never get to go to the stadium. Football's in town. Let's go check out the new state of the art. Bill informed me that by 2029, United is planning on debuting a Super Sonic, I think, plane. The Concorde is coming back? I don't know.

It's not the Concorde. I think it's a different company trying to do the same thing. So if they build a stadium, this is how we think London gets a Super Bowl. That's how we've got to this point right here. They build a stadium over there, and it takes three hours to get there on a flight from New York. I think they get a Super Bowl, and i think it only continues to grow into your team

if you can get there in three hours they get a team quicker than than they would before that's for sure yeah absolutely actually remember ursa mentioned that he didn't mention that they would get a team but he mentioned how concord was supposed to make a flight for three hours i was like oh that came up in a conversation at some point probably with nfl teams like at the one per club meeting it's like if we're able to get to london we're definitely giving them a team who we giving them jags fucking give them the jags have the jags are playing over there then whenever technology makes it possible from these plane companies for us to get their back and forth now we're in europe now we're utilizing all of germany that fucking loves football here we go we are off and running united airlines our hearts went boom behold the all-new boom arrow supersonic design coming to

the skies in 2029 and that thing is long and dynamic and gonna go really fast and we'll have a lot of other people on it for the first couple thousand flights than us. But, boy, if it proves that it works, I mean. Three and a half hours they're alleging New York to London, four and a half Tokyo to Seattle, and eight from L.A. to Sydney, Australia. Look at this. Just like social media, the world's getting smaller, isn't it? My God. World's getting smaller.

And they can squeeze out now two weeks of Super Bowl stuff because usually it's just the one Super Bowl week. But if they do it in London, I assume teams will want to go over there the week before the Pro Bowl. Oh, so you're saying like media. Exactly. They can just expand that entire thing. And will the Pro Bowl be over there as well?

Has to be. People would love that, right? That would only draw more fans. The players would like to go to London, I think, right? Yes. But why don't we just steal some of these alien crap or steal their technology, reverse engineer it, boom, we're there in like 12 seconds.

Well, I don't know if our bodies can handle the Gs. Yeah, I was going to say. They have some kind of technology that shields our body from the floor. Well, maybe the technology is the thing shielding it, but according to one of my sources who seen a UAP, one of my sources who seen a uh a uh uap uap unidentified aerial phenomenal who is a pilot pretty solid pilot he seen one and said that that thing had to be pulling like a hundred thousand g's or something like or ten thousand g's so we can't handle that so i don't know what it was doing he's we don't have even craft that can pull those kind of g's he actually said i watched it

and obviously the first thing I thought was, what is that? And then second, oh, the person inside has to be just mush. Absolutely. Blown apart by the Gs, yeah. Can TC handle it? Probably. Well, TC did. He was flying at what, Mach 10 speeds? Yeah, 10.8. Yep.

Right, he got up to it before the engine blew. Do you remember that? His face was... Yeah. Because he was actually going. Well, he had to get his speed record, obviously. He had to get his out to record. Let's go to the phones before I get the fuck out of here.

Beantown, right? Hell yeah. Yeah. Flicking them. Let's go. Flick those beans, baby. You are a pathetic representation whoa of boston by the way i don't know i'm pretty sure a lot of people say that's why they call it bean town well it was the first thing that came to your mind relatively quickly so i assume that is just your friend group doing the thing

i'm very pumped to get up to your area, and breathe the air that created you and your friends and people that are similar to you. Yeah, I'm pumped for you, too. It's going to be nice up there. And like I said, I really do think the crowd is going to deliver for you. Yeah, I'm excited for it. I'm excited for tonight, AJ. Where is the program?

It's at the Garden. Bainton. Oh, it's at the Garden, though, I mean, right? I think so, yeah. TD Bank North Garden. Is it? I think so. That's what I thought.

Pretty sure. Yeah, because it's either, and you've already been to Worcester. I it? I think so that's what I thought pretty sure. Yeah cause it's either and you've already been to Worcester I mean those are really the two places that it would be. Alright I can't wait to get up there let's get to the phones let's go to Big Lou in Tucson Arizona Big Lou on the 5RNG front line go to 5RNG.com use promo code MAC if you receive 10% off your order

of 5RNG. Big Lou father of Little Lou. Hey how you doing how you doing keep it moving boys. Hey I like that Big Lou dude let little Lou. Hey, how you doing? How you doing? Keep it moving, boys. Hey, I like that. Big Lou-ing, dude. Let's go.

Hey, Lou. You're big, big? How big, big? Hey, bro, I'm like 6'3", 300 pounds. Woo! Big Lou. Hey, this is Shady Technique. What's going on, bro?

What do you want to talk about, Big Lou? Bro, I want to just talk about how the Cowboys are going to fucking suck again, bro. I'm over here thinking about all the money the Cardinals just paid Kyler and how much money we just fucking sacked into Dak. I'm a Cowboys fan. I'm getting excited. They're getting ready to go to California, but bro, we're going to fucking suck again, aren't we?

Why? Why do you think that, Big Lou? You're 6'3", 300 pounds of negativity right now, Big Lou. Hey, bro, don't give me that shit. Yeah, you are! Peace out, Lou. Lou, I, don't give me that shit. Now you are! Here you shall, Lou. Lou, I thought all Cowboys fans just had these delusions of

grandeur of winning the Super Bowl every single year. Big Lou does not fit the mold at all. He's Big Lou. I mean, what does he mean by, is he still on the line? Like, what's a bad season for him? They're still, I mean, when they're bad, they're still okay. Their defense should be legit still. Dak hopefully gets better.

Zeke, I don't know. Hopefully he has a big year. You win six, seven games, you go to the playoffs in the NFC East too. Yeah, true. They have to go. They need to go to the Super Bowl, I guess. They need to win the Super Bowl, really. That's not happening.

This year, not as much Cowboys hype, or are we just not paying attention to anybody else talking about our show? No, I think there is a little less because, you know, they lost some weapons. They lost some linemen. They might stink. Yeah, it is down a little bit. It'll just take until week one. If they look good in the first week of the season, we'll be right back into it.

Dak's going to win MVP. This team's going to win the Super Bowl. That's what happened last year against the Bucs on Thursday. Remember, we all hammered them the Bucs minus 9.5. Then the Cowboys came out and we were like, holy shit, the Cowboys are really good. Forgot how good Dak is. He's healthy too this year. Big Mike knows how to win.

Yeah. But there will ultimately come down to some game management decision and we'll go, oh, no. Knew it. Then some thing will happen in the season. It's like, Cowboys, oh, no. Is it happening again? But let's go to Nick in Indiana. Nick in Indiana, what's's like, Cowboys, oh no. Is it happening again? But let's go to Nick in

Indiana. Nick in Indiana, what's going on, pal? I think he has something to add to this conversation. I sure do. How you doing, Pat? Hey, keep it moving, Nick. Great. First of all, free my guy, Gump. Free Gump. Free Gump. Free Gump. But yeah, I do have something

to add. I mean, don't get me wrong, I don't think they're going to win the Super Bowl. But? But we got to be better than the Eagles, even though they got a little better. What do we think? Who's we? Are we going to be better than the Eagles? Nick, we've never met you.

Who's we? Is we the Cowboys? You're right. I said we. That's them. That's them. I don't want to play for Mike McCarthy, so it can't be we. So fuck that guy.

So who are you talking about then? Aren't these Cowboys fans, Colin? The Cowboys players on the team. Are you a Cowboys fan, Nick? I am. What the fuck did Big Mike do? You already hate Big Mike McCarthy? No, no.

He took too much time off. And, you know, the game's passing by. We need somebody a little better. I'm thinking, like, maybe, you know, Lincoln Riley. That's who I was hoping for. Oh, Lincoln Riley. Okay, Nick, appreciate that. Maybe Sean Payton.

He said, hey, don't rule me out from being back on the sideline. You know, remember whenever I retired out of nowhere because I was potentially going to own a team? Yeah. Yeah, I do too. And I've tried to do this home thing a little bit. And the game is probably going to call me this season on numerous occasions. He's working for Fox.

Yes. I believe. So he's going to be around the game, in the game. It's only a matter of time before an offer comes from the game. And will Sean Payton get back out there and call plays with how successful he has been? We all say yes, just like everybody's talking about Gronk going back. time before an offer comes from the game and will Sean Payton get back out there and call plays with how successful he has been we all say yes just like everybody's talking about Gronk going back week 10 week 13 if the Bucs need a tight end and maybe get over the hump and win the Super Bowl

we'll say this about the Cowboys the one positive that I have seen uh Zeke looks looks fit he looks like he's Zeke looks like he's ready to go he's been going to his cult events you guys got over there Ohio State oh Oh, H. I haven't seen him in a little while. Yeah, he had it. The cruise, yeah, he's doing well. Yeah, Zeke's a dog. Dog.

He's fun, man. Zeke's a fun dude. All right. CD Lamb. I got to get out of here. CD's awesome, by the way. That is the reason why I do always have hope for the Cowboys. CD is so fun to watch, and it's just fun to see him just interact. He just seems like a dude who you want to be on his team.

He's got great wiggle, too, Paul. Yeah. I mean, he's tough. I think he's tough, too. I think so. He's been through a lot already, which is huge. You know, maturity. A lot of people rank in deck, you know, high.

Yeah. Then Chris Canty comes out and says he's the number one most overrated player in the nfl it's like holy does anybody know if anybody's good in the nfl anymore you know and the eagles i think is probably the most interesting team with aj brian now and davante's like they have weapons all over too hey is jalen a guy is jalen a guy yeah all on jalen everybody says jalen is a guy jalen i assume has been Jalen a guy? It's all on Jalen. Everybody says Jalen is a guy. Jalen, I assume, has been working like a guy because he said his work ethic is unbelievable.

Philadelphia would be cool to be back in the mix, wouldn't it? Yeah. And Carson Wentz with the Commanders. They're going to suck. Who says no? Jordan Davis also should have been the number one pick. He's on the Eagles too. Who's? The Commanders? Yeah, what do you think?

What's the over-under that Fandor Commanders? Yeah, what do you think? 13-4. 14-3. Whoa. 3-14 maybe. They might have C.J. Stratton next season. Zito just dropped a little fun fact in my ear. Madden has placed Carson Wentz as the most injury-prone quarterback in the game.

Okay, so maybe Madden's back then. But Madden doesn't understand that even if he gets injured, he's still playing. So does an injury even matter? Are you hurt or are you injured? And Carson's like, doesn't – You shouldn't be allowed to take it out. I have pain in both legs.

Either way. You have to leave him in if he's hurt because he's going to stay in. Like Greg Jennings. Because is the game real or not? It's in the game. It's also in business. Wasabi. Whoa. Whoa. I don't know it puts a bow on this week doesn't it all right i'm gonna get out of here aj i appreciate the hell out of you pal appreciate you guys have fun in boston man it should be fun way to travel around this week

and make it work with all the kids dumping on sailboats and such. We figured it out. Had a great time. We do figure it out, don't we? It's kind of how you should view life, really. Yeah. Figure it out. Figure it out. And I've been lucky to figure it out alongside all you fine gentlemen. Here, here.

Happy birthday to my lovely wife. My beautiful wife. Happy birthday, Sam. Happy birthday, Sam. It's going to be a great weekend. Where'd you get her? I did. Surprise. Do you want to ruin it here? It's pretty good.

Oh, believe me, I'm sure it's good. I'm just curious. I mean, we did just get off an island for a weekend. Are you going to tell us on Monday? Sure. Okay. I mean, a G-Wagon's pretty nice. Yeah, it's very. But, yeah, I'll tell you.

Yeah, I absolutely will. I can't wait for this weekend. Smackdown tonight. Hell yeah. Another week of sports talk. Hell yeah. Training camp next week. Training camp starting for a lot of teams next week.

Everybody. Everybody. All backs. The ball is back. There's going to be quotes and early takes and thoughts for us to chit chat about because this week I'm going to be honest the well was a little dry

last week though this is it until February I mean next week we're back we did it thank you people that watch this show

and listen to this show so much for sticking with us through all this shit it's been a lot of shit we've been waiting shit in the shit seas of sports takes and talk through the offseason.

And next week, balls are being snapped. Meetings are being held. Motivational speeches about winning the Super Bowl. Everybody else is at the same place we are. Who will survive and make it to the mountaintop that is Lombo?

That starts next week. Hell yeah. We can taste it. Smell it. Feel it. Hear it. We're here. It's time.

Have the greatest weekend of your life. The boys will wrap up the show and have a giveaway. I'll be in Smackdown tonight, 8 p.m. Eastern time on Fox, live from TD Garden. Hell yeah. We got it. Former home of Pasta? Well, no.

It's right at home. Former home of Pasta. They're bringing his best friend back. All right. I'm out of here. Everybody, thank you all so much for your hard work. Cheers. Yep. Goodbye. សូវាប់បានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបាូវាប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់� Thank you. សូវាប់ពីបានប់ពីបានប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់� Thank you. you