The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 709 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers Salary Cap Guru Mike Greenberg, Paddy "The Baddy" Pimblett, MLB Trade Deadline Chatter With "The Mayor" Sean Casey, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: August 2, 2022

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about Dolphins owner Stephen Ross losing a first and third round pick next year, being suspended 6 games, and fined $1.5 million for tampering with Tom Brady and Sean Payton in 2019 in hopes of luring them to Miami. Joining the show is Tampa Bay Bucs salary cap guru and lead counsel, Mike Greenberg to chat about how he manipulates the salary cap, what kicking the can down the road means, how he's managed to construct this team, and much more (13:44-32:25). Next, rising UFC Superstar Paddy "The Baddy" Pimblett joins the show to chat about his big win at UFC Fight Night Blaydes vs. Aspinall, what he thinks his next fight will be, why he won't fight in New York, when he'll start training again, and what he thinks of where he stacks up in the Lightweight division (47:24-1:00:45). Later, 3x All-Star, Cincinnati Reds Hall of Famer, and MLB Network Analyst, Sean Casey joins the progrum to chat about the MLB trade deadline including Juan Soto being traded to the Padres, why that might be the biggest move in the history of the deadline, why what Aaron Judge is doing is so special, and if the Yankees are preparing to give him $500 million this offseason, and how difficult it is to keep showing up to the ballpark when your team has punted on the season (1:22:29-1:35:36). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people. It is Tuesday, August 2nd, 2022, and NFL football is two days away. This sports show begins now. Here we go. Atta baby. Atta baby, atta baby. Here we go. We have some breaking news out of the NFL world. Yesterday, what did we learn? We learned a punishment from Judge Shue Robinson in the NFL down on Deshaun Watson. He'll be suspended six games unless the NFL appeals it and Roger Goodell babyfaces and comes in and says,

we appreciate you, Judge Shue Robinson, for your voluminous amount of work that you did and the thousands of pages of research you wanted to do, but I'm actually going to say that because I am the Supreme Court in this situation, just like I was before the CBA even brought you into this whole process. I'm going to add four more games on there. He's suspended for 10 games.

Then Deshaun Watson's team potentially sues the NFL for wrongful whatever, and then that goes to court, and that suspension is potentially delayed. But that also potentially opens up discovery, which would mean we'd learn a lot about a lot of things. So would Deshaun Watson's people want to sue the NFL for appealing the six-game rule? Whatever. That was yesterday. That was yesterday.

Punishment yesterday. There's a new punishment today. What? There's a new punishment in time. Really? What? There's a new punishment in time. Really? The new punishment in the time of the NFL is that Miami Dolphins owner,

Steven Ross, has broken multiple rules. We've heard about the Miami Dolphins organization potentially being accused of doing some wrongful things. A, maybe paying Brian Flores $100,000 to lose games because Brian Flores came out and said that was the case. This is what was happening while I was there. I was pulling quarterbacks. I was putting quarterbacks in with two minutes left in the game.

I was trying my goddamn best, but they were telling me we lose more games, we get better draft position, we'll give you $100,000 per. How about that? In-game incentive bonus, $100,000 per. You lose 10 games, Brian Flores gets a million fucking dollars. That's Brian Flores

alleged. Stephen Ross and Miami Dolphins said, that ain't true. Hey, we didn't do that. That is not real at all. Because that would mean that we're jeopardizing the integrity of the NFL because then we would have teams potentially not trying and that's not how the NFL operates. Especially with sports gambling, that would jeopardize everything if there's potentially an

owner telling their coach, that's ludicrous, is what Stephen Ross said. Well, the investigation at the NFL held has come back with an answer, and the answer is that Stephen Ross might have said, like, hey, our draft position isn't great. Yeah, we could get better. But nobody could confirm that there was an incentive base and that he was serious.

It seems like everybody said that he was saying it in jest. So Brian Flores saying that he was getting paid for it. The NFL in their investigation was not able to find any documents. If we read the memo that came out actually two minutes before this show started. Right. So although he said it in jest, and it might have been mentioned to people around the building about their draft position because they weren't going to win a Super Bowl.

The NFL was alleging that there was no incentive-based actual, hey, we need to fucking lose so we can get better. So the integrity of the game, the NFL says, in this particular situation, still intact. Now, the other thing they were getting investigated for was tampering. That tampering was of Tom Brady, who we learned very quickly out of his retirement that he was potentially going to be owner, player, coach

for the Miami Dolphins, just like Jackie fucking Moon. And just like Jackie said, get the funk out of my face. Get the funk out of my face. Get the funk out of my face. Get the funk out of my face. If you don't like my music, you don't have to use it. Funk and Elohim. Jackie Moon, obviously great at music.

I don't know if Tom Brady is, but Tom is going to become Jackie Moon up the NFL. And we had heard about this after he retired out of nowhere. It was like, holy shit. Then there was another name involved, Sean Payton. He retired out of nowhere. Gave a 45-minute press conference. We learned nothing. It was like, oh, Sean Payton, also supposed to be head coach

and owner of the Miami Dolphins. Like, holy shit. Brian Flores told us that there was allegedly going to be a meeting on a yacht, Stephen Ross's yacht, with Tom Brady. Brian Flores didn't want to do that because that would be tampering. That would be illegal. And he had the utmost respect for the New England Patriots and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

The NFL has investigated these charges that maybe Stephen Ross was trying to bait players away from the teams that they're in and coaches from another team that they are contractually obligated to work for to become owners. And the NFL said, yeah, these motherfuckers did do that. Yeah, the NFL said they certainly did. The Miami Dolphins' Stephen Ross operating through a man named Bruce Beal who we just learned about as Mr. Beal in the report. He was the successor, I guess, to be owner of the Miami

Dolphins' current vice president. I guess he was the one conducting the conversations with Tom Brady when he was a New England Patriot in 2019. Son of a bitch. They said it started in August. That's right fucking. They said it started in August. That's right fucking now. Whoa.

Those conversations started in training camp whenever he was with the New England Patriots for his last season. Allegedly, Bruce Beal and he were chit-chatting about potentially getting involved with the Miami Dolphins, a division rival at the time, and maybe some ownership. And Bruce Beal would keep Stephen Ross updated on how those conversations would go

all the way through the season, then into whenever he was even with Tampa Bay, all the way to the offseason afterwards. So he was contractually employee of two teams when Stephen Ross and the Miami Dolphins were reaching out to Tom Brady about potentially becoming

an owner and a player for the Miami Dolphins, which we all can assume led to the retirement out of nowhere, in which he thought that was going to happen. Then they found out it was illegal because they were currently tampering. Did the same thing with Sean Payton. I guess that conversation didn't start until later, post-2021, I believe is what the investigation said. So now the Dolphins have been punished.

They lose a first-round draft pick next year, a future third-round draft pick, a $1.5 million fine for Steven Ross, and a six game suspension for Steven Ross. He can't show his fucking face in his suite down there at that stadium.

So this is interesting, this is fascinating because this follows up the rumors that Dan Snyder had been hiding money from other owners. So NFL owners, for those that don't know and you haven't paid attention to NFL business, NFL owners vote 31 to nothing on basically everything. Or 30 to 1, and the 1 is the Chicago Bears folks

who don't even participate in the meetings. They fall asleep like LaRusso did during that fucking baseball game. That's right. Be careful of players. Okay? Now, I think you guys are just too lazy to read through. Checked out. Yeah, whatever's going on.

The owners are always a tight-knit group. Always. Always on the same side. That is how they have become the strongest league in the world, the most popular. They're really TV-dominated. I mean, they just crush everything, and they've always been on the same page.

I'm sure there's a lot of disagreements, but publicly, they have never come to light so dan snyder potentially you know uh shell gaming money away from the owners and now stephen ross technically fucking over three groups of ownership here trying to get their employees is there a little bit of a riff is there a little bit of a split and is this enough of a punishment for Stephen Ross and the Miami Dolphins? I don't think it's going to change much. A first-round pick obviously being taken away is not good for the future of your program. But if they want to bundle something, get another one.

I mean, it's just – that's not really anything. $1.5 million, Stephen Ross, you know, he had that F1 race down there in Miami. That's right, yeah. I think he made 1.5 million they said like every 14 seconds yeah yeah didn't he make more with the f1 than he did for like any entire whole season's worth of games yeah so 1.5 million i mean stern yeah sure he'll stomach it that's real stern but he'll be able to and then six game suspension he's gonna have to watch from his mates oh that's right he got's got a home opener. Him and... What?

Him and... Now, to be clear, I don't think fans give a single fuck about this. This feels like this is high-level beef that's happening. This is ownership of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The family's name is the... Glazers. The Glazers. And then it's also the Kraft family. And then the owner of the Saints, which is the...

Oh. Lady. Yeah, it's a lady. I see her face. She's a Saint. She is a Saint. Well, she also owns the Pelicans. Gale Benson.

Benson, the Benson family. So they're obviously not thrilled with Steven Ross. This seems like more of a them thing. It's his money, him not being able to go to his stadium. And a first-round pick, problematic for the future of the team. It definitely hurts the team on the field future third round pick for sure but with the way trades are happening now with some teams not giving a single fuck about any draft picks if the miami dolphins really want to get back into the first round they'll be able to do so if they want to get back into the third

round they'll be able to do so they actually uh still have a first round pick in 2023 draft from their trade with the niners so they lost one of the two okay just like we said, nobody's going to give a fuck about this. No. That is breaking news, I guess, out of the NFL. So I'm happy we got to cover it. The talk table is here at Ty Schmidt at Boston Corner. One day into a world in which we know that Massachusetts will have legalized Fandle. Awesome.

I see you still have the Guardian cap on your helmet. There's clips hitting the internet right now, Connor, from practices and training camps and highlights, and we're two days away from a goddamn game How many days until the regular season kicks off? 37 days How pumped are you? Yeah, very juiced

There's just like a renewed energy in the air Even when we come in here, you know, it's like, wow Football really is around the corner And just the thought of, you know, placing those bets on that first Sunday How about Thursday? We already got it Thursday There's already a line out for a Hall of Fame game on Thursday.

Exactly. Yeah, and I'll probably end up betting the under just because that's what I did last year and it worked because the game is so bad. You figured it out. Well, I don't think I figured it out. I think it's been pretty known. No, you figured out sports gambling. We figured it out.

This is a good bet. Well, no, I figured out sports gambling during the regular season. I have a foolproof plan that if you continue to dump money in, eventually you will end up in the green. So I feel good about that as well. I want to let you know that it's not accurate. Well, no, it's pretty foolproof. I mean, there's a chance I'll be able to guess every single winner this entire year.

I like the Patriots. I like the Patriots. Yep. I like the Patriots. I think I like the Patriots. What did Raph say? You were the worst gambler in the office? Oh, yeah, by a lot.

Yeah, because you just bet on. Only bet on Boston. And I do not care. Half the time when I don't bet on them is when they win, too. All right, well, let's talk about the Hall of Fame game betting real quick. And that tone digs, obviously, one half of the hammer. Cowboys is very excited to get football back into the gambling world, even if it is. Kind of a combine all-star game of sorts, the Hall of Fame game,

where two teams of players that probably play in the XFL, maybe a couple guys will get another shot at the NFL at some point. You're kind of getting a chance to watch a senior bowl here or like NFL PAflpa bowl or whatever the hall of fame game is not a game that people should be gambling on no but if you host a gambling show every single day probably a welcomed edition we don't have a fucking clue who's playing we know trevor lawrence and etn aren't playing right derrick carr and crosby definitely not playing davante adams definitely not playing you can just basically go through we have no idea who any of these humans

are right so how how do we even get a good grass that doesn't matter i'm gonna bet the board either way the total did drop by the way from 32 and a half down to 30 now i believe that was on the back of the news that lawrence won't play the backup quarterback for the jaguar cj bethard won't play so i like to look at the quarterbacks. So we know their top two guys aren't playing there. So we're going to get Jake Luton for the Jaguars. And then Kyle Slaughter, who's actually a USFL

guy this year. Wasn't great in the USFL. So, you know, I think that's why the line also moved. It was minus one and a half Jags yesterday. It's plus one and a half Jags today. So there's been some movement there. Here's what you have to look at. What's that fellas Sheeran? Edge. Johnny.

Edge Sheeran also. He is a Sheeran. And he's English. This is what I'm looking at. Stidham. Connor's ex-favorite quarterback, Jared Stidham. Patriot great. Went from the Patriots

Hold on hold on Please just one second You thought that Do you remember Yeah You were cutting promos I think in our old studio Oh yeah

About Jared Stutum Taking over for Tom No problem Yeah Easily Hoping Stutum gets a start Because guess what He followed McDaniels over

From Patriots So he already knows he knows the offense he's a dog and then you got nick mullins who's the backup to stidham he's a dog in this league he's got wins in this league so i am leaning towards the raiders strictly that's how i'm betting this is strictly based off the quarterbacks that's it here we go. A conversation that I've been looking forward to. Diggs, great breakdown. Thank you. I think we're going to make money off of this game.

I hope so. I mean, we're going to bet. And this really sets the tone for the rest of the season. It does. This is either, oh, we get lucky and hit one, or is this how the year's going to go? Are we going to be two yards away from a Joey Burrow scramble from a $40 million hit against Vandal in the Super Bowl?

Unbelievable. Is that what we're going to do? Or is that going to go our way this year? That's what we're learning. Our way. Tony, I can't wait to take all the things that you just said and put it into action to propel us into a good luck, into good faith, into a hell of a season taking all of Vandal's money.

Hell yeah. Now let's pivot to talking about money. A man who has to manage money. A man who has been putting on an absolute clinic with the rules that are placed before him on how you build and construct a roster in the NFL. Ladies and gentlemen, the salary cap guru for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the team who's been able to hire and pay every single all-star you've ever heard of for the last three years ladies and gentlemen mike greenberg

what's up thanks guys appreciate you having me on hey what should i call you mike greeny mr greenberg big brain guy whatever whatever works for you all right greeny that's the other big big brain mike big brain mic yeah big brain mic yeah big brain mic do you think that what we just said is an accurate assessment do you think you have a bigger brain than everybody else like when you started doing what you were doing with the salary cap and i think it was explained to us by andrew brant former executive of the green bay packers it's a cash over cap thing that has been introduced into the modern roster construction where some teams have been

able to take advantage of it and some teams haven't. Is it just you sit down every day and have to go through the rules, see what you can do, what you can't do? Did a light bulb switch one day where it was like, damn, we can pull this off, we can pull that off? And how long have you been a salary cap guru into figuring this out? Was it like as soon as you sat down, you was like, damn, we can pull this off. We can pull that off. And how long have you been a salary cap guru into figuring this out? Was it like, as soon as you sat down, you're like, how come we haven't just been doing this the entire time? If any of that, a lot of questions, but I think they all lead into each other. I think big, big brain, Mike, I think. I appreciate it. Uh, first surround, you know, surround myself with a really intelligent people. We have a, our director of football research here, Jackie Davidson,

who is just a brilliant, brilliant mind. So we work together hand-in-hand on all the salary cap and contract stuff. And I think kind of what we – there's a few factors that I think really went into what we were able to do this year. And one, when you look back, 2010, 11, 12, when 2011 CBA came out, we were a team that always really spent cash to cap, never really prorated money forward. And the thinking was, well, one, honestly,

we just didn't have the people to pay at the time. We weren't a very good team. But we knew that at some point we're going to get there and we're going to need the flexibility. So when you don't push money forward and all those years we were able to move some cap room over and then when a guy gets released you don't face all those big dead cap charges so we had the flexibility going into this that stemmed from several years and then a second factor is you need you need really good players and specifically you need some young rookies that are contributing

because you can't pay all the veterans, but when you've got guys like Tristan Wirfs and Devin White and, you know, Winfield that are still in their rookie deals, it gives you a lot of flexibility to go out and pay some of these veterans. So it's a credit to our personnel staff, and I think we have the best general manager and personnel staff and John Spytak and Rob McCartney, Mike Beal. They've drafted phenomenal.

And that's really helped us, our flexibility, being able to bring some veterans in. Because when you have some of these rookies that are really making impacts and pro bowl players, you can go after some of these veterans. But the biggest thing is, is you need the cash. You need the money and uh i think the glazers have made no bones about it that they recognize we have a good team they recognize that tom brady has you know a limited window here and they're going for it and they've uh given us the ability to uh spend and from a salary cap person standpoint

it's a dream you know you're just going out there and just trying to making it work. And so you need kind of all those factors. So I don't want to take all the credit. I'll take, I'll take the credit. Don't get me wrong. Yeah. But, uh, you know, it's, it's something that, um, as an organization we've been able to do because of, because of all that.

I think I gave you the credit. You gave yourself none of it there. So maybe Dorn, we should go back all the times we've given him credit and edit in just for let the record show that it's actually like 45 other people yeah and i'll still take the credit i talked to a few of my the cat people around the league and we just appreciate that us cat nerds are finally getting some recognition because no one ever wants to talk about the spreadsheet guys okay big, big brain Michael. It's a big deal. This is a massive

deal, especially with the way some position groups are normally rather expensive. In the NFL season, especially now with the 17th game added, people are going to get hurt in big time positions. The ability to have depth at a high level, it doesn't matter until

it shows up. When it shows up right and when it shows up everybody's like that's why they have five guys at that position that are at the top because when inevitably something happens you're able to plug in place and the teams that have been winning lately have had great depth at skill position which by the way costs money so if you can figure out how to pay these people to keep them on your roster that's a weapon so we got massive respect for you and the other nerds around the league that are doing what they do. Now,

can I ask you about you saying for all those years where you guys didn't do it, you were able to kind of make room when they say, and there's some people that don't like this. And granted, I think the cash over cap situation with the Glazer family being like all in is the biggest separator. But a lot of people say, if you kick the can down the road, you kick the cash over cap situation with the Glazer family being all in is the biggest separator. But a lot of people say if you kick the can down the road, you kick the can down the road, it's going to get you inevitably.

What are they talking about with that, and how do you prepare around that? What does that even mean? So eventually you do put these Boyd years in, and eventually you're paying a guy like Tom Brady the money that you pushed out. And once he retires, eventually you have a big cap charge for a guy that's no, the money that you pushed out, and once he retires eventually you have a big cap charge for a guy that's no longer on the roster. So if the cap is $208 million and let's say he makes up $30 million worth of cap charges and no longer on the roster, that's what they're saying.

It starts to kind of eat up the cap room you have, and you can continuously try and push it, but eventually it's going to catch up to you and you're going to have to reset a little bit. The key to me to trying to get your way out of that is just to continuously draft well. If you draft well and continue to bring in young talent that are on rookie deals, you can really start to climb your way out of it a bit. So that's really the key to doing what we did and being able to get out of it.

So it's just a one-year thing? Do you think it sets you back multiple years? And when did the voided years thing come into play? Has it always been legal and we've just seen more of it lately? Or is it just added with the new CBA? No, it's always been something you can do. I think it got a lot of attention last year because the first time in a long time the cap actually went down because of covid so teams you know when we were going into when you're planning you look at two

three years out and everybody's planning two three years out and then all of a sudden uh 2021 the cap is going down it's going the opposite way so all the teams are scrambling a little bit and it just became uh everyone really did it last year just because everyone uh had to get under the cap so that's really why i got a lot of attention it's it's been something you can can always do but it got a lot of attention because it was it was being done by everyone last year how many years can you push it out can somebody sign like for instance not thank god it was just a cramp with tristan worse by the way thank god yeah but as soon as i saw it the initial report was he was getting carted off. I'm like, damn, okay. So you got Bobby Hainsey, obviously,

and then there's some veterans out there that are going to cost money. And then tackle is a very important position. By the way, Tristan's good, which is good. But it brought me to a question. Like in training camp, something happens at a position where you're going to have to bring in a vet who's going to cost a little bit of money. You're immediately doing the math on how many void years you can put it out there to save and what we can make the signing bonus.

How many years can you send that out? Can it be like a Bobby Bonilla? I want a 15-year, 14-voided-year deal so this vet that we need to make our team whole here early can get $10 million or something like that. How far can you go with it? So you can push it out really five years because that's how much it's going to prorate out. But then the automatic void, let's say it's a one-year contract and you push it out five years, it's going to accelerate into next year once that void happens if it's a one-year deal.

So really, you could push it out five years. And what that will do is that will lower the cap this year, but then it will all accelerate into next year if it's a one-year deal uh so really you could push it out five years and what that will do is that'll lower the cap this year but then it'll all accelerate into next year if it's a one-year deal so initially it's five years and then it accelerates back yeah so those four that we were planning on using are going to catch up because he's no longer on the team correct correct oh so that's when you kick it down the road they get you they get you it comes back in and then you gotta find somebody else to kick it down the road and you keep continuously doing that it'll it'll catch up to you eventually but uh it's something that you know when you're going for you're going for it hell yes yeah can we get tom brady back yeah yeah sure yeah can we make it work can we get godwin here on the franchise

yeah well evans the answer is always yes yeah can we get evans here yeah that's what we've been saying this whole time big brain mike because like there's uh some teams that we pull for where there's some moves that can be made and somebody goes well cap wise they don't have anything it's like yes they do the saints saved like a hundred million in like two days did you see that shit do you watch other people's films like other other salary caps moves because what the saints were 70 over then they became 30 under in like an eight day period or something like it was like holy shit the salary cap people in the nfl are the most we are collectively the most judgmental group we are the first to look at other teams going we would never do that did you see what they did we are we judge each other every chance we get.

Close group, but we just judge each other all the time. It's part of the fun. You have to be able to make fun of other people. Every new deal that happens, that affects you guys, right? I mean, you have to watch the market all day, every day. Are you watching it like a trader almost with what? Yeah. And what you like to do is you call your friend who just did a deal. Before you even see the deal, you go, I can't believe you did that deal. I can't't believe that deal just got done just to get under their skin a little bit but we are collectively a very judgmental group ty your question for a big brain mike yeah big brain mike in terms of like the kicking it down the road when you look at the like the new tv deals and all the money that's coming in and where the cap's gonna go is there any type of thought where

like hey we can almost we can kick it down the road and we'll be able to kind of outrun it because of how much money is coming into league and where the salary cap is going 100 so we're always looking okay we're trying to figure out what the cap's going to be next year and the year after and you know what the tv deal is coming in it's obviously going to increase the cap so 100 we're always taking that into consideration and knowing okay, that that's really a factor that played into ours. Do we go in a few years with the cap, it should increase with all new TV

deals, and we'll be able to push it. And that's why we were about kind of made a decision. Let's let's push it forward. And so definitely take that into consideration. What is the cat? It's the TV rights, right? And then what else? It's a question question of things, a collection of formula that the NFL and union negotiated and CBA. And it's a little bit complicated, but I think it's the league and the union to kind of put that together and give us the number. Yeah, but I think it's like TV rights is a big part.

And I wasn't saying that for you, but I think TV rights is to do that. It is. When you see the NFL is like, yeah, Sunday ticket was $1 billion for this time. We're asking for $2.5 billion now. Like, you guys all have to perk up and be like, here we go. Okay, so that's

at least, right? Because who knows where it could go, right? Who knows where it could go right now? Right. We know it's increasing now. At the same time, so will the player salaries. They'll want more. They look at it as well.

The agents look at it and they say, look at these TV deals. A $20 million receiver, he should really be making $30 million. So as everything increases, so does everything else. The minimum salaries from the new CBA keep increasing. increases, so does everything else. The minimum salaries from the new CBA keep increasing. So it kind of works both ways there because everything's going to increase as the cap increases. Oh, you just said inflation. No. It does feel like you just did that. Are you lead counsel as well or do you just give a heads up on how things will work with other people negotiating?

Am I what? I'm sorry. Are you lead counsel for Bucks as well? Yeah. i me and jack davison we kind of we handle all the negotiators together and jason will uh will chime in as well um so he loves to talk about some of the uh interesting cap rules funding rules that's where that's really where he gets interested that's awesome he defers to us and all that stuff he doesn't he that's where we're losing we're talking to mike greenberg salary cap guru and lead counsel for the buccaneers cash over cap with the glazer family backing it and

the whole team being in seems to have found maybe a cheat code down there in tampa bay and it's been fun to watch tone digs your question like so does does tom when tom says hey i got i got gronk and i got julio on the hook here uh does he come to your office first to see if you can make a deal happen or does he go to Jason's office first? Who does Tom tell when he wants someone on the team? So Jason and Tom have an unbelievable relationship. I think Tom never really calls Jason and goes, we need to sign this guy or that guy.

That's blown out of proportion a little bit. What ends up happening really is guys get released and they want to come and play here. They want to play with Tom. They want to play for BA and Todd Bowles and Byron. The veteran guys realize that we're in Florida. We have no state taxes.

That's a big thing. They want to come here. There's no doubt about it. they want to play with Tom. And we get a lot of calls from agents when guys get released or when they're in a free agency just checking in to say, hey, are you guys interested in my guy? I'd love to come down there and play with Tom. So there's no doubt that people want to come and play here and play with Tom.

But I think there's other factors in the organization as well with the coaching staff as well. Graney, a couple years ago in the middle of covid you know there was a time where your kicker and your punter tested positive and i thought to myself you know i know a lot of the coaches down there i've never got to kick and pun in a game i could do one game oh yeah so i reached out to a couple friends of mine i'm like hey what would have what would have to take place here and obviously i was told not these friends of mine at the nfl not any any team they're like well first of all the colts would have to release your rights and but also in the middle of this you're gonna

have to have the antibodies already because if you don't have the covered antibodies you'll have to be in a hotel for two weeks or whatever and you won't be able to play or whatever so i one got antibodies test turns out i did not have the antibodies so none of it could happen so i didn't even have to call in a favor to chris ballard hey need you to fucking just let me go real quick need you to let me go i'm going down there didn't even get a chance to call the bucks i would have loved negotiating with you though greeny so i remember this we had a pat mcguffin meeting ba jason and we sat around and i said you know wwe money he has I'm good at pushing cash down the road

but this is going to be too much so we had the meeting it got talked about we were disappointed because it just it would have been that way that's where we would have probably drawn the line because it just couldn't push that much money yeah listen we might have had to push that thing 10-20 years down

we would have figured it push that thing 10, 20 years down. We would have figured it out, Greeny. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Mr. Big Brain, you said that in the last six years when your window really wasn't technically open, you were kind of getting prepared for this time now where it is and you can go and get a championship. Do you see that with other teams now when you look around the league? Maybe there's a couple teams that might not be primed for a you know run right now but in three four years they might have the pieces and

the money to make a run definitely you could see some teams um because you can you can move capram now from one year to the next pretty easily and you can see the teams that uh really it's the ones that have the good young rookie quarterbacks and haven't had to pay that quarterback yet, maybe haven't had to pay the receiver or left tackle yet, and you see them kind of getting ready and pushing that cap room because it's going to happen. They're going to have to do something similar to what we've been doing. So you can kind of see some of it from blooming with some of those teams

that have a lot of cap room that keep pushing it forward a little bit. See, that was a trend there, right? Whenever pushing it forward a little bit see that was some things that that was a trend there right whenever goff was at the rams he was rookie quarterback they paid a bunch of ogs around him then uh seattle right when russ was young they paid legion of boom they paid everybody around them now it feels like the trend is young quarterback you can pay og receiver, or older quarterback who's already been broken off once, takes a little bit of a team-friendly deal, you can pay wide receiver. But if you're in that big pay of quarterback run, going to be tough to pay the skill positions.

I said yesterday that that's probably how teams are going to be constructed for the next, what, 10 years? How long do trends last, do you think, in the NFL? Is this going to be going forever, or do you think there is a cyclical? There it is. I think it has to do,

it's interesting, every time a new CBA comes out, you see kind of sometimes a new trend. People, you know, with this CBA, a lot of the minimum salaries went up so you see you see different trends that are impacted by the cbas with the new cbas when they come out and they usually come out you know 2011 was the last one and then this one came out uh two years ago so i think it's fair to say that that seven to ten year window you kind of see some of these new

trends like like you're discussing all right well we appreciate the hell out of you thank you for doing everything you've done for the game. We appreciate you explaining things to us idiots about how and why you do your stuff and keep kicking ass down there. I know it's got to be hot as hell in Tampa right now. It is hot. We practice 830 in the morning because it gets real hot come lunchtime. I could imagine.

I know you guys are selling the no state income tax. I know you guys are selling like, hey, the manatees in the bay it's beautiful in the town there's cranes everywhere everybody's having a good time go boats it's gonna be good boats everywhere but it's we're trying to get aq shipley to come back where you know we're doing well he's actually the one that told me because i run hot as well he's, it is always 150 degrees down here. It is always 100% humidity. I think that's the only thing that anybody has said that isn't great about Tampa.

Aside from that, what a fucking beautiful place, and congrats on all the success. Appreciate it. Thanks for having me on, guys. Love the show. Appreciate it. Ladies and gentlemen, salary cap guru and lead counselor for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,

big-brained Mike Greenberg. Yeah, Mike! Here we go. Out of Mike! Here we go, out of baby. Here we go, out of baby. Here we go, boys. Here we go. Here we go, out of baby. Here we go, out of baby.

Here we go, two days before the NFL preseason kicks off in a Hall of Fame game, which is a bunch of insurance salesmen and other league players playing and wearing NFL jerseys. But it is our first taste of NFL football as we celebrate the greats of the past and look on to the season on the horizon, which is going to be explosive electrifying and begins and kicks off in just

37 days. That's Boston Conner, the toxic table next to him. Matt, Ty Schmidt, baseball fan, big baseball day today. Yeah.

Massive baseball day, trade deadline day. I guess there's three different reports going on right now about the Juan Soto trade from the Nationals to the Slam Diego Padres. Allegedly, Hosmer is either renegotiating a deal because he has a no trade clause to Washington

or he's going to end up staying and a different deal is going to be presented for Juan Soto or there's a third team potentially getting involved and Hosmer's heading to a third team. Juan Soto's going to San Diego. Whatever the case, numerous reports, including one from our guy Jet Passon, that is basically saying Juan Soto's going to San Diego.

It's just how and if our guy Hosmer, who's been seen in a For the Brand sleeveless hoodie, who I am actually buying his jersey right now currently, it sounds like he's either going to be on San Diego or he's going to be on the Nationals or he's going to be on an independent team we don't know shit Juan Soto's going to San Diego the third team thing makes sense

I think he's not going to Washington that ain't happening I don't think why because they stink if he had a no trade clause you got to feel for him today San Diego is really making a push right now they're an exciting team they're really going for broke in the playoffs.

That would really suck going from there to Washington. So hopefully they find a third team and can get him somewhere where he can play some playoff baseball. Or we hope he stays. We hope he stays. Allegedly somebody's reporting. There's, I guess, reports that he could potentially stay. Really?

Jet Passon said that there's potentially a new trade from San Diego being presented without Hosmer. Oh, here we go. Let's go. Because Hosmer does have the ability, I guess. Bob Nightingale, who I guess he's not always right. Yeah, not always. But takes a lot of swings.

He steps into batter's pass. Yeah, volume hitter. He's saying something about him moving up, holding it all up or whatever. That'd be sweet. It's trade deadline day. We'll talk to Sean Casey, the mayor, in about an hour and 10 minutes and Ty will break that all down with him

because I guess this is an exciting day in baseball with only 90,000 games left in this season. Yeah, I believe they've played 104,

so there's about, yeah, about 58 games left. Jesus. my God. So many games, but who will find new chemistry

with their new team? That's right. In a pretty isolated sport, who will be able to fit in with their new team on this trade deadline day and really make a run on these last 58 games in baseball? Hell yeah. That we will not pay attention to once actual preseason football starts. I'll still watch every one of them. You're a good guy, Ty.

That's Sean Casey. So are you, Tone Diggs. Hammer. Dad. Cowboy. Dodd. Cowboy. Joining us now live from Manatee, Ohio, a college football national champion with the Ohio State Buckeyes. Whoa.

Super Bowl champion with the Green Bay Packers. Ryder Cup champion with the United States of America. Wow. COVID survivor with the grit of a true Ohioan. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hall. Hey. What'san, ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hall. What's up, bub? Hey, guys. How you doing?

Hey, big day in the NFL today. Steven Ross, all kind of stuff. Also, baseball is big today. Yeah. What a great day, huh? Today is a great day. Hey, it's a great day because we get a chance to do this for a living, isn't it? You're goddamn right.

Hey, I was on with Dan Patrick earlier today, pre-recorded, I believe. I don't know. Is he live then? Is he live? He might be live. He was live. I think I went on with him live. Great conversation.

Great to catch up with him. He said he wanted to, he told me to tell you hello. He said he wanted to say, I always got great respect for Dan Patrick. I assume you have the same feelings. Absolutely. University of Dayton, Dan Patrick. I grew up going to basketball games there. Really?

Was he playing? Did he have a shot? Yeah. I believe his name was Dan Pugh at the time. Who? What? You heard me. I did not.

It's not a big deal. It cut out the exact time. I did not hear what you said. Zoo? Pugh. I think he went by Dan Pugh back then. I didn't know that. What?

I think his middle name might be Patrick. Who knows? Yeah. But yeah, he's big time. I mean, I've known about Dan Patrick forever. Oh, I love Dan Patrick. I didn't know that. I don't think he's from anything. Dan P. Dan P. Dan P. Dan P. DP. DP. DP show.

DP. PMS. DP. What's that? What's your problem? What's that? Okay. He goes by it. Isn't that his logo? Like the DP show. Yes, exactly. So why'd you have to do that? What's your problem? What's that okay? He goes by it And then his logo Like the DP show Yes Exactly

So why'd you have to do that? Okay What do you mean? You'll listen back And you'll hear it Listen back You'll hear the sound Run it back

No we don't have the capability To run it back When we get to the Thunderdown We'll be able to do so But just know Your tone was pretty toxic Whenever we said DP Made us kind of think You thought of a different DP.

Yeah. Like pretty quickly. Yeah. Immediately. First thought. Maybe he's got another tab open right now. Yeah. With DP on it.

Yeah. Yeah. Wow. The hell? Everybody knows what you guys are talking about. You do, though. And that's who we're talking to. We're talking to you.

I'm clueless, honestly. I don't know what you young kids always think and say. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Anyways, Dan Patrick, absolute legend. I love talking to you. I'm clueless, honestly. I don't know what you young kids always think and say. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyways, Dan Patrick, absolute legend. I love talking to him. Let's get down to sports, Emmy, huh? Yeah. Let's dive into the Stephen Ross stuff, though.

So yesterday, Deshaun Watson suspended six games by Judge Sue L. Robinson. In her report, she said she's trying to set a new precedent, shift in culture, but didn't feel as if there was a fair enough amount of time to warn players about the shift in culture. So previous punishments with the new process might not necessarily add up, I believe, is what was kind of being stated in the 16-page report. The NFL has two days now to appeal that ruling from Judge Sue L. Robinson. This is the first time she's ever looked over a case. She is jointly appointed by the NFLPA and the NFL. If the Roger Goodell-led NFL was to appeal Sue Robinson's ruling

and then put in their own, it would be the exact same thing as what happened in the last CBA. So will they empower the new process, or will they say, eh, we still think that we need to make some things right? I don't think anybody would be upset if that was the case, but this is a massive precedent being set for future situations along the same lines.

Today, Stephen Ross of the Miami Dolphins, he is no longer the owner of one of his two first round draft picks next year, a future third round draft pick. He can't be in his stadium for the first six weeks of the next upcoming NFL season. He's been fined $1.5 million for tampering with both Tom Brady as a New England Patriot. Tom Brady is a Tampa Bay Buccaneer and Sean Payton as a New Orleans Saint. and Sean Payton as a New Orleans Saint,

both obviously being chatted about for what were rumors that we had heard very late in this whole process of maybe becoming ownership and player and coach positions for the Dolphins. Steven Ross was ready to go all in. The tainting and trying to lose allegations, although they found that he had said it in a manner to numerous people about their draft position the NFL said they couldn't find any hard evidence that money was offered for actual loss so he did say it maybe in jest or saying it at all but they couldn't find Brian Flores's accusation

of a hundred thousand dollars per loss if you tank this season so that's where we're at AJ as we catch everybody up I would like to hear your thoughts on it all. How do you feel? Six game suspension, $1.5 million fine. That's a lot. I mean, that's a lot of money. First round draft pick. They have two already and a future third,

which let's assume they can have four of those if they really wanted to bundle trade packages. Brian Flores' people said this is really no punishment. Steven Ross came back and responded and said, yeah, everything Brian Flores said was wrong, and we might have done a little tampering, but nonetheless, we move forward, and let's play the football. AJ, your thoughts on it all.

I don't know how you feel, but I think Steven Ross doesn't really care about the first and third and 1.5 mil and sitting out for six weeks not able to come to his own stadium and watch his team play i think he's happy to be in his eyes like vindicated with the tampering with brian flores i'm sure he did not want that out there he did not want to get like the the accusation is bad enough but if they would have i don't know what like the penalty would have been huge wouldn't it if they would have found out hey that he legit offered money to lose yeah well that's jeopardizing the integrity of the game, especially with sports gambling becoming legalized in the entire country, state by state.

I mean, that's a big deal for the NFL not to lose. I mean, Tim Donahue has still done damage to the NBA's reputation today, let alone if it was to come out. Now, this is Stephen Ross's statement in answer of the ruling being declared public. The independent investigation cleared our organization on any issues related to tanking and all of Brian Flores' other allegations. To your point, AJ, as I have said all along, says Stephen Ross, these allegations were false, malicious, and defamatory. And this issue is now put to rest. With regards to tampering, I strongly disagree with the conclusions and the punishment.

However, I will accept the outcome because the most important thing is that there will be no distractions for our team as we begin an exciting and winning season. I will not allow anything to get in the way of that. I will be on my yacht the first six weeks, about a mile away from the stadium. I will be tailgating and at the postgame parties. I will not be in my suite. That first round pick, I'm all happy about it. We got another one.

Ha ha! The future third. Go to hell. 1.5 million. That is literally one lap of that F1 race that I put in here. So let's move on. Let's put it to rest and everybody can eat shit. Kind of how Steven Ross is feeling.

And by the way, once you get past an investigation, your life is probably much, much better and more free. I've been doing a little thinking here, okay? Can't wait. This is big. This is big. Breaking news! The Deshawn News drops yesterday, okay? Everyone's talking about it.

What time this news dropped today? 1155. Time we go on today? 11.55. What time did we go on? 12.02. I wonder if they thought, hey, we need to get this off the PM. We need to get Deshaun off the PMS show. We need to get people forgetting about this.

I saw people tweeting this to him, by the way. Because we're not going to file an appeal, so we need to get people to stop thinking about it. We'll drop this news and then look for around 1157 tomorrow, some more news to drop. So, Tone is the voice of some people on the internet. I saw some reactions to us talking about the breaking news of today, and there's a new punishment in town, Stephen Ross. I saw some people quote-tweeting our video saying,

Oh, look at the NFL bootlickers over there at the Pat McAfee show not talking about Deshaun Watson anymore and then I saw some people like holding up

like the puppet emoji thing and they're like here's the NFL to Pat McAfee move on from Deshaun and I'm like the NSYNC fucking

Maryland that's what they're saying we're doing what do you want us to do we're a topical daytime show move on from Deshaun. And I'm like the NSYNC fucking Marionette. That's what they're saying we're doing. What do you want us to do? We're a topical daytime show. They drop right before we go live. We got to talk about it. The NFL appeal. We'll talk about it. These people don't know me. AJ! They know what to get you,

what they say to get you going, obviously. Which is very, I mean, it's not that difficult. First off, what are you drinking? What are you saying? You're saying it again. What? He's saying it again. Am I just walking around?

Huh? You're doing the shaka? No. Puppeteer. Puppeteer moves. It's a marionette. By the way, I will chuck a shaka, okay, because it's good vibes only, bro.

Okay, I will. This is Gatorade Zero in Fiji water. You know what I mean? No big deal. Why? Why are you drinking zero? You don't want the sugar? Well, I just want some flavor, to be honest.

And I did it during keto. I'm no longer on keto. I mean, I had a JBC right before we went live. That's right. I've had JBC in years, let alone in the last month or so. I mean, we went after it. Nick ate healthy for the first time in 10 months yesterday. Kind of.

And then today he's back on his bullshit. Got me into the Wendy's train. I'll tell you what, I've been really attacking the day. So this is just for flavor, pal. I get it. But Stephen Ross, going back to him. The tampering thing, who cares? You care about tampering? Yeah, I mean, that's the real thing.

The tampering thing is just the billionaires, right? The tanking thing. Everyone cares about tanking. But tampering is actually good for the NFL. This is a good storyline. People are like, can you imagine if Tom Brady and Sean Payton, it gives them more to talk about, more to think about, especially for people to think, hey, something like this is possible to happen in the future.

Like if this could happen, anything could happen. Well, yes, I concur. I think fans are excited about it, but I don't think fans give a fuck. This is the billionaires' problem. Yeah, it is. The tanking thing is all that matters though with stephen ross right now i feel like yes concur completely that's why he's taking a victory lap with his statement yeah but like the glazer family that owns the bucks the benson family that owns the saints and the craft family right they're probably a little pissed off about this whole thing even though they publicly won't say

that there's probably some conversations that are going to happen in that one per club meeting that are like hey fuck you and i assume by the way if i know the world like it is currently there's gonna be no accountability there will be fingers pointed at other people as well but bruce beal the man who allegedly did the conversations with tom brady his last year in new england started in training camp he has been fined five hundred thousand dollars and he's not allowed at league meetings anymore, I think. I think he has been – he's supposed to be the successor to Stephen Ross for the Miami Dolphins team as a whole.

So I don't know how long he's banned from league meetings. Did they put that? Is it just a one-year thing? One year. One year he's banned from league meetings. So he can't even think about patronizing any other teams at these league meetings when everybody's boozed up with Ian Rappaport behind the scenes. Does this hurt Tom in the future if he still wants to be part of ownership in Miami at some point? Yeah.

Did they just delay this deal? Because that was definitely what was happening, right? Yeah. How did they get around it? Like with the salary cap and all that, how do they make it work? Like with the salary cap and all that, how do they make it work? That was the debate that we had when this first came out, is that how would he count towards the salary cap or would he have like a vet min contract?

Then he also makes money, obviously, by being an owner. Did they present it to Peyton whenever he was a free agent? There was a rumor. Baseball used to. I think baseball, like Pete Rose was offered like equity positions in teams when he was a free agent. There was always a rumor. By Denver?

It was Tennessee, right? And I don't know how they're going to do it, AJ. Do you remember? Yeah, with the salary cap, we'd have to ask Andrew Brandt because I don't know how the salary cap – I don't think – Yeah, to me, I don't know how football makes it work. Is there a precedent?

Because I'll tell you what, if a player can become an owner, I'm all about it. Let's move on. We'll definitely get back to this to those that yell at us about what we're talking about. Joining us now is I mean every time I watch him fight there's absolute electricity coming through the television.

There's absolute electricity radiating through the O2 arena. He puts everybody out and done and then immediately afterwards the place goes bananas. He does an interview where he says I should have put him out quicker. Should have put him out quicker. He's always disappointed with how great he is in the octagon. We don't know that, Patty. I wish next time you just celebrate because we think everything you do

is great. Then you took time to give a speech on something that's very important to people all around the world, not just in England, not just in the United States. Mental health's a real thing. We've all been affected by it. We hope you're okay. And obviously, it's a bummer. Ladies and gentlemen, UFC lightweight stud, scouser, Patty the Batty. Yeah, Patty! Oh, he just walked into an elevator, they said.

Oh, no. Oh, no. Ladies and gentlemen, Patty the Batty! How are you, Patty? How are you, lad? How's life? I'm good. What's going on? I was in a lift then, lad.

Well, an elevator, as you would call it. A lift. Where are you at? Are you in America? Are you back in England? Where are you right now? No, I'm in England, gentlemen. London at the minute. Flying to Chicago tomorrow. So, just enjoying my last little bit of food.

Yeah, I was about to say, how's the last week been after Celebration? You've been diving back in. What's that little milkshake right there? Yeah, a little Kinder Bueno milkshake. What is your weight right now, if you had to guess? I haven't got a clue. All right, let's dive in.

I thought you said about 200 pounds, but I'm not sure. Well, you look amazing. I hope you're radiating. Obviously, what you talked about 200 pounds, something like that, I'm not sure. Well, you look amazing. I hope you're radiating. Obviously, what you talked about after the fight was so serious and hit home with so many people. We want to extend our deepest apologies that you're going through that, your friend group, and we appreciate you taking the platform to make the world a better place, Paddy.

I think everyone who has a platform like me should do what they can for people less conscious of themselves. That's just something I've always thought of. I feel like everyone should be like that. It's something that I'll always stand by. Well, we appreciate it. Let's get to the fight now and let's talk about your future.

Why are you always disappointed with how you end a fight? It's always like, I could have beat him quicker. I could have done this. We understand that you might not have had your perfect game. But God damn it, you're perfect in our eyes. I hope you know that.

Like the fans, it's like everything this guy touches is gold. But it always feels like you're not exactly thrilled. Is that just how you always be? And is that how you operate? Yeah, that's just how I am sometimes. I was disappointed in my performance because I felt like i should have went out there and blasted them out and around i know we're still finished them finish someone that's never been finished before you know he's had 11 pro fights lost one i had never been finished and i choked his ass lad i mean he got dealt with like i knew he was going to get dealt with ice i said the

whole time he was going to get finished i thought it was going to be a knockout but he defends punches well. It's quite weird. He doesn't defend them in a skilful way but he defends them well and then just grabs old you. I'm not too fussed like that. Obviously, when I look back now, I realize I was being very emotional going into the fight. I've watched the fight back. I watched it back today. Every punch I throw, I'm trying to take his head off. Throw a punch where I'm trying to set his shot up. I'm just walking forward, throwing punches. Is that something you're going to have to try to find a way to rein in or figure out moving forward?

Or can you fight like that every time? I could fight like that every time. I could go, I'm a big fat bastard at the minute, but if someone rang me now and said, get outside, I'd be out there beating them up. What is it you said the last time to us? Like, you like getting hit in the face? You don't mind getting walked in the face? Yeah, I enjoy getting punched and punching people in the face. It sounds mind getting yeah i i enjoy getting punched and punching people in the

face it sounds very weird but i enjoy it is it like you're 19 and three you've only had three fights in the ufc i looked this up today patty and i listen i'm might be a bearer of bad news here this is not how i feel i looked this up how are you the 38th ranked lightweight in the UFC? And what is this? When are we getting you? There's no champ in your division. What is the deal? Have you talked to Dan? No, there is.

There is. You can't say there's no champ in our division. There is. His name is Charles Oliveira. He is the champ in this division. Why are you 38th, though, you think? What's that? Just because you've only had three fights?

What is the deal? The UFC fights I don't even see Some of the names on that list Some of the names on that list Are scary lads No not to you right? Do you have to look at that type of thing?

And are you already planning out Who your next fight is? Or will they tell you? I don't care lads As I say Some of the The UFC lightweight division Is the best division

In the whole of the UFC By far It's the best division in the whole of the UFC. By far. It's the deepest division. All the way down to rank 50 in lightweight is very good. So I don't mind taking my time climbing up the rankings. I'm not in no rush. I'm going to take my time and earn a lot of money.

I also do take my time. Yeah, I mean. Doesn't Dana. Hey, Patty, doesn't Dana want you to fight in New York here? What, 281 is it? Yeah, but come on, lad. That's the tax man just taking all me dough. That's what happens, lad. The tax man's not getting

my money anymore. So you'll fight Vegas, though? Yeah, Vegas, December, lad. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got you. Yeah, Vegas, December. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got you. Yeah, Vegas state income tax, much different than New York. I like the way your head's at.

You just said something about taking your time and collect your money or whatever. But we all, I mean, in the arena, the same thing. And I know, obviously, the main event was famous. I mean, I'd change the channel after your fight. I mean, absolutely. You have to feel that, obviously, every time you walk into an arena. What's that feel like whenever the whole fucking place knows Paddy the baddie? This is what you've worked for your entire life, lad, right?

Yeah, it is. This is what I've worked for. I've always envisioned this and visualized this. I've always knew this was coming. So for me, it's not like surreal or nothing because I always knew it was going to happen. For my friends and my family and even my team, some of them it's a bit surreal, but to me this is just another day at the office, lad.

I do notice it, lad. After I fight, you can see people just going to the exit trying to get the quickest taxi so that they haven't got to sit around for when everyone gets off. Yeah, I do that in my bathroom. I'm going to take a shit and probably not going back. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Paddy, how was the post-game celebration?

I saw you messing around with, I think it was Stormzy in the back, hanging out with some of the lads. Molly high seed him. Molly high seed Stormzy. What's that? High seed? Yeah, it's a wrestling technique. Molly high seed Stormzy. Picked him up over the head and i like

he was about to go like that on his shoulder and i have to just jump over and catch his arm to make sure he didn't it was hilarious oh you guys are getting after it i mean you and meatball molly are a tag team for the ufc that they just have to love you two on the same card is entertainment from literally walking back in the back through both fights and then afterwards. It's amazing. Have you guys been friends your entire life? No, we met each other in the gym.

You know what I mean? We met each other in the gym years ago, about 10, 11 years ago now. She didn't start saying them properly at first. She came into each spa with someone we used to have in the ufc called rosie sexton the first ever british woman in the ufc um she came into boxing spa with her years ago and then molly ended up just coming back and getting into mma and as you say the rest is history hey she's awesome huh you see her like you two work together in the gym at the same time same fight camps obviously yeah we do a

lot of things like similar things but we don't really train together i'm far too big for that i'd squash you hey speaking of you did a little uh you did a teabag twerk on the guy back you know you didn't go front on him you didn't go back on him at what moment do you remember is it as you're cinching it in you're like hey don't forget to drop your dick on this guy, lad. Like, is that as you're doing it? I don't know what it was. I went to stand up, and as I stood up, as soon as I finished, I stood up and started,

like, it just come in me, I teabagged quick. I had to just boom, boom. Don't forget. Got the teabags in, lad. And he was on it, though, when he stood up as fast as he could when he saw the first teabag come down. Have you talked to him since teabagging? He was alright in the KZ,

and then after that he started to see an interview of him going, Liverpool's a dump. No! Whoa! Yeah. What's that all about? He never even come to Liverpool, so what's he on about?

He went to London. What's a four-hour car journey, wait? Liverpool, so what's he on about? He went to London. What's he come for? An hour car journey away. Scousers would beat the fuck out of him anyways, wouldn't they, Paddy? He steps one foot in Liverpool, it's over. He wouldn't like it. Hey, when you get a guy's arm attached to his side with your leg just wrapping it in completely and you're just waiting for him to give you the neck, it's inevitable there?

Is that in your head? That's what you're thinking waiting for him to give you the neck. It's inevitable there? Is that in your head? That's what you're thinking? And is there any way out? It is. For me, I think it's inevitable. That's one of my positions. I like getting to that position on someone's back and choking them or punching them until the ref stops it.

And when I have one arm strapped, I just feel like, yeah, it's over. When I've done that, I can remember at one point, I hit him with the knee and I knew it, it hit him and then I ended up on his back and I was on his back

and I remember looking at the clock and seeing him two minutes 30 and I was like, yeah, this is over. I've got well enough time.

You know what I mean? I've got well enough time. I could have just sat there for another two minutes playing about with him but I just ended up wrapping it up. And did you wiggle him over in front of Portnoy on purpose? I mean, it was like, I could have just sat there for another two minutes playing about with him. But I just ended up wrapping it up.

And did you wiggle him over in front of Portnoy on purpose? It was like there was a shot of obviously you wrapped around the guy's back like a koala. And then Portnoy with his wig on right over. It was like a straight out of a fucking movie almost the way it was set up. No, there was an even funnier one in the first round. When I went for that guillotine on him, the choke, and I was on my back. Like, as I started to kick Jordan off me, I just, like, looked to my right. And I just saw Dave.

And I thought, oh, my God, I can't lose while my boss is here. I'm going to have to sort his shit out here. What are you doing, Pat? And I just, like, I have to put it on him. He had a fucking monocle. Yeah. Go ahead, Ty. Your question for Patty.

Patty, last time you came on the show, I think it was on Instagram that they basically had you shadow banned. And then now I think it was the day of your fight. Your Twitter. The night before. Yeah. The Friday night, the night before. Yeah. They suspended your Twitter account. What the hell's the deal?

Why is it you're getting preyed on on social media when you have this message post-fight? I don't think you're really like a negative force on there. Why are they always in your shit? Because, lad, people give me shit. So I don't let the trolls win and give it back. And my accounts get banned for it. What's that all about? Because Twitter's a gang of bitches. So I don't let the trolls win and give it back. And my accounts get banned for it. What's that all about?

Because Twitter's a gang of bitches. Why is Elon Musk flapped, lad, and not bought it? Elon, buy Twitter, lad. Stop flapping. We need you. That's what you're saying. Yeah, we need him. We need him to source this Twitter out, lad.

I've joined an elusive list there. The only other person I can think of that's banned off Twitter is Donald Trump. You've got to create your own platform. I mean, that's what you're going to have to do. Go ahead, AJ. The only people that suffer off that, though, really, is my fans. Because I interact with people on Twitter all the time. I'll talk back to people and it's me fans What I'm gonna show for through that like Twitter's the least used out of them all

Everyone uses TikTok and Instagram and that more now. So the only people what's gonna show for us. That's the fans. So Twitter up yours How do you think you think the teabag could be your finishing move from here moving forward? I don't think anyone's really used it that much in the past.ag could be your finishing move from here moving forward i don't think anyone's really used it that much in the past it could be your thing it could love it i could start teabagging people over cheeky because that's the only reason he got teabagged because he was being cheeky in the foot and before it talking this big game i'd like he was gonna do this and do that like he couldn't finish your dinner it's a great move when are you getting back into training, Paddy? Well, I've been away since I got back home. I went to Wales with the dog for two days on my bed,

and then I went to Dublin over the weekend, and now I'm in London. So I'm flying to Chicago tomorrow, and then I'm just going to have to get back to England soon as I'm there, really. As soon as I land stateside, as you would say yeah state side well as soon as you land here we can't wait to hear what's next for you enjoy this you're a fucking good human no matter what the lizards at twitter and instagram say pal you know that fella I'm here to kick any lizard's head off we need it ladies and gentlemen, Patty the Batty. Yeah, Patty! Here we go. Out of baby.

Here we go. Out of baby. AJ Hawk kind of behind the eight ball there. What is that? Dude. What do you mean? Is this baseball? What are we doing?

Is that for Sean Casey? Sure. Go to hell. Yeah, why not? It's for everybody. It's for you. It's for me. It's for the toxic table.

At Ty Schmidt. I heard you say it. At Boston Connor. It's for at Tone Diggs. One half of the hammer table. At Ty Schmidt. At Boston Connor. It's for Atone Diggs. One half of the hammered down cowboys. Hey, Atone. Here we go, Atababy. Here we go, Atababy.

Here we go, Atababy. Hey, here we go, Atababy. Hey, AJ. Here we go, Atababy. Here we go, Atababy. Here we go, Atababy. Here we go, Atababy. There it is.

Not bad. Just with terrible tone. So let's change that because we get to live a good life and talk about sports, okay? Okay. Okay, I agree. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go.

Here we go. Here we go. All right. The NFL is currently in training camp. We are just days away from the Hall of Fame game, which is a celebration of the greats of the past and future XFL players on the field wearing NFL jerseys. It should be an absolute blast. I cannot wait to watch NFL football.

We can gamble on it. Let's go ahead and look at some injuries that have taken place already in training camp just days into basically everybody's camp. This list of injuries is already voluminous. This list of injuries is already problematic. A lot of guys set to return, which is good news, but this is what the NFL is, this is what training camp is, and it's a real deal. Jordan Poyer, Buffalo safety.

Today, friend of the show, carted off with an elbow injury. MRI to be determined on what the outcome will be for that. Tim Patrick, Broncos wide receiver, carted off today with a leg injury these are happening in real time during practice james washington dallas wide receiver fractured his white or right foot he's out for six to ten weeks van jefferson los angeles rams wide receiver knee surgery few weeks to be determined on when he returns kylerler Murray, COVID-19, four days out because yesterday was the first day. I can't believe that's still happening. Coach Pete Carroll, COVID-19, five days out.

Micah Hyde, Buffalo safety, hip-glute injury day-to-day. So the tag team of Hyde and Poyer at Buffalo in their stacked defense, both currently injured just one week into training camp. That's good news and bad news. Already hurt, going to miss reps. Good news, probably going to be able to get back in time for meaningful football. We do not know what either of them are. Chase Claypool, shoulder injury.

He's set to return. Ryan Jensen, obviously ACL. Lucas Patrick, Chicago center, had hand surgery. Taysom Hill, he has a rib injury. He's going to be out for a bit. Fryermuth, Pittsburgh tight end, hamstring injury day-to-day. Eric Armstead, 49ers defensive end, knee sprain injury. He'll be out a few weeks.

And Joe Burrow, still missing time due to appendicitis, but he is due back. A lot of injuries already, AJ. I mean, this is what football is, I guess. Yeah, and what? Most teams have only been in pads maybe two days as of now. Yeah, there's some non-contact, right? I mean, that's where Jensen got hurt. That was a super serious one.

But, yeah, pads have only been two to three days for about 28 of the teams in the NFL, and we already have 17 guys. Is that what that is? I just tried to do some math on sizing-wise. There's more guys farther down the depth chart, but these are the biggest names so far. These are big names. Huge.

Friar Muth. Hopefully he... If he has a hamstring now in camp, just make sure it's not a year-long thing. That was on day two, I believe, and he hasn't practiced since. Claypool hurt his shoulder on day two. He hasn't been back since. Nodge got his foot stepped on yesterday, but Tomlin said that's all right.

Yeah, let him sit for a long time. You know what I mean, AJ? Is that what you're saying? Be healthy for the regular season. Appendicitis with Joey Burrow. We haven't even chatted about that in a few days. Is he in a little motorized cart? Is that what it sounds like?

Sick. It's a cocaine white, this cart that he's sitting on. It's a little tricycle, almost three-wheel thing. He's riding out there, watching all the practices, getting the mental reps. No big deal. Appendicitis, I beat it. How you doing? Keep it moving.

I'm all the way back. I saw a lot of reports for Poyer. It looked like it was an elbow. You think that'll be a thing? If you have an elbow and you have surgery, can you wear the big Gronk Donjoy and then wrap it up even if you have to with the pre-wrap or whatever after, too, maybe, if you're a safety? AJ, you got an upper body?

You missing a game? I mean, it depends what it is. Like, what did he do to his elbow? The JJ Watt deal, was that for a torn bicep or elbow? What was this for? Oh, yeah, he had the knee brace on his elbow forever. Still does, right? That's still his thing.

Yeah, signature. God, I'm mad I'm wearing it. The corner that we talked to, Sean Murphy bunting. brace on his elbow forever yeah still does right that's his thing yeah it's got him in madden wearing it uh the corner that we talked to sean murphy bunting he hurt his pretty bad during the opener against the cowboys where his arm got like bent in between the two dudes yeah and he came back in five weeks with that brace defense aside safety elbow unless it's a full break right that doesn't seem like that's gonna be a lot of. We are very dumb and just pissing into the wind right now. But, right, isn't that kind of normal? Yeah, it depends how long it is.

But, yeah, I guess if he's going to hurt it, this is the time to do it in camp. All right, let's bounce around with some news. Keenan Allen was rallying the Chargers fans. Oh, yeah. He's very good. Very good delivery. Smooth. Guy should be an actor. Very good delivery. Smooth. Guy should be an actor.

Motivating. I think everybody was motivated when they heard it. He gave, what, six different emotions through it all? Yeah. And we're just going to go ahead and let it ride and assume that we're going to get another strike from the Chargers media team or the NFL films as a whole. But here's Keenan Allen rallying not only Chargers fans, but his teammates alike.

Bo Pham. That's right teammates alike. Bo Pham. Let's ride. Oh. Bo Pham. What? Let's ride. Okay. Bo Pham.

Yep. Let's ride. Okay. Bo Pham. Let's ride. Yep. Ooh, quick. Bo Pham.

Yep. Let's ride. Yeah. Mike Duff. Yep. Let's ride. Yeah. Did you see what Mike Duff... Ellis Wu, though. Let's ride Yeah This is everywhere

Let's ride is everywhere Russell Wilson did it to an entire Denver Broncos Batch of fans And they were all on the same goddamn page Russell Wilson shows up And he's like that guy in front of an orchestra Conductor He is the conductor

of all of denver right now and it can be difficult with denver because of mile high flights and where people are in their minds and their bodies and the potential vitamins they have russell wilson gets that little stick out that conductors get and says hey broncos country let's ride and this is what they do in return They're in Keenan Allen's in The NFL's in I mean the whole world's riding right now And I can't think

And thank enough Of Russell Wilson For bringing that into our road Ain't that right AJ? Yeah but do you think you owe an apology To the Broncos PR staff Who you've been grilling For putting this out there now we're just riding this all over your face it does feel like it's a lot of dancing right in my uh in my sniffer you know everywhere

but i think there's a chance aj and i don't like to do this i think there's a chance that this is a lot of laughing at, not with. What? No. No. No. No. But Russ is in on it, though. Russ is laughing at it, too. He's the only one that can. No, I agree.

Russell Wilson will do whatever because Russell Wilson handles adversity better than any human on Earth. Even better than fucking Gary Vee. Sure. So whenever you think about Russell Wilson just taking whatever the world gives him. Oh, it gives me oranges. I'm making orange juice. Oh, it gives me oranges. I'm making orange juice. Oh, they give me lemons. I'm taking shots of Sprite with them.

That's what Russell Wilson does. You give me a book, I'm writing Bible verses in it. Russell Wilson literally just rolls with the punches. So this whole Let's Ride thing where it seems like maybe people are not doing it in a genuine way. Russell Wilson's cool with that. He don't give a fuck. Russell Wilson moves on to the next thing. Me and Sierra got another anniversary next week.

Me and Sierra got another birthday. Me and Sierra going over to the White House again to figure out COVID. Me and Sierra in Denver, we're going to win a goddamn Super Bowl. Russell Wilson don't give a fuck about what he does. Did he copyright it? I assume there's trademarks. Yes. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, which is a bummer because now all of Bronco's country, you're going to have to pay them, what, five cents every time? And I think they'd be thankful to do it if they win another Super Bowl. Do you think they're going to have to do? Did you see that? Like, do you think he's got to do, hey, Lewis Hamilton, let's drive. You think they're going to remix this? That's a good idea.

Because he's now my minority owner of the Denver Broncos. F1 star Lewis Hamilton. Is he really? Yeah. And they're about to sell a team, so I don't know how long. So Bob Walton said, hey, Lewis Hamilton, you want to toss some money into the bidder? I believe so, yes.

Hey, Bob, come on. I got some extras. How much do you give? That's what I'm wondering. Yeah. Apparently him and Russell are boys, so that's why. So Lewis is now Russell's boss? Tactically.

Partially. Is Russ going to start driving? It's going to hurt a friendship. I bet you Russell could be a great driver if he wanted to. He has the body for it too, right? He does, yeah. What's that mean, AJ? What's your problem? I mean, he plays baseball. He's awesome at football. I would imagine he gets into F1. He's funny.

Funny. He's an influencer. He's a fit lifestyle guy. Music videos. Motivational speaker. Good dad. lifestyle guy. He's a motivational speaker. Good dad. Great dad. Great husband. Dog.

Good actor. Sweet truck. Sweet truck. He wears his own jersey in public and nobody says anything. Except for us. Which, by the way, that's on us. That's our insecurity. It's not yours.

I think he's a pastor. Pastor. Did someone say ambassador yet? Of the game? Of life, the game, the Bible. He was in Monica with shoulder pads on. Yep. That is an ambassador. Growing the game. Hey, Russ. Fuck, keep

killing it, dude. I do apologize to the Denver Broncos social media team who I was informed had won Webby's in the past. Holy shit. So I need to relax. You didn't know that, though. I did not. I'm an asshole. We got some money in the pass. Holy shit. So I need to relax. You didn't know that, though. I did not. I'm an asshole. We got some money in the kicking world.

Chris Boswell, kicker for the Pittsburgh Steelers, signs a four-year extension for a five-year deal in total for $20 million with $12.5 million guaranteed. I think this ties in with Justin Tucker as the highest-paid kicker in the NFL. Congrats to Boz. Hey, baby, Boz. Boz has been through it. Obviously, he's a kicker in Pittsburgh NFL. Congrats to Boz. Hey, baby Boz. Boz has been through it. Obviously, he's a kicker in Pittsburgh,

so the weather is horrendous all the way around the AFC North. Has made massive kicks for Pittsburgh. Has had a rough year and has taken the beating of being on a team that Yinzers are a fan of. He's been there, done that with everything. He's a vet at this point. I'm incredibly proud of that guy, and way to secure the bag, pal. Way to secure the bag.

That's good money. Wait, what's it like kicking in Pittsburgh? I always talk about how tough it'd be to kick in Chicago. Is it a similar thing? Yeah, Chicago, Pittsburgh, Green Bay even similar. Is it because it swirls? The wind's swirling or what? Yeah, it's hard to read what the wind's doing.

So if the wind exists, it's okay. Wind existing, everybody's gonna have to battle. Unless it's like to read what the wind's doing. So if the wind exists, it's okay. Like, wind existing, everybody's going to have to battle. Unless it's like, you know, like 30 miles an hour. Then it's like, this sucks. But if there's like teens wind, it's like if you know where it's at, it's all right. You can play with it. But in those stadiums in Cleveland, Pittsburgh, it swirls. Indianapolis, when they have the window open and the roof open, it swirls.

Green Bay, it's like when you don't know where the fuck the wind is going, that is a problem. And there's some stadiums that are just always like that, and a lot of them happen to be in the AFC North where Boz and Tucker both have to kick. And it was the – Cincinnati also miserable. I've heard interviews that it was worse.

They did close the one end zone, so it's helped a little bit when you're kicking towards the river. But it's so nice to have Boz. It's so nice to send him out there. And, like, as a fan watching, you know there's a pretty, pretty good chance. People don't know how lucky they are, right, Diggs? Yes. Yes.

Let me tell you why Boz and Tucker and McPherson is going to be another one. They hit clean balls. So, in windy conditions, if the ball is going end over end, let me get this. So if the ball is going straight end over end, okay, pure is what you call that, right? Just a pure end over end ball. The wind, even though it's pushing it,

you have a much better opportunity with the points here to cut through. Once it starts getting a little fat and you start seeing it like X almost, that's obviously a much larger surface area and the wind will take advantage of that. So you see Tucker hits like the clean, that thing is just end over end, perfectly rotated. Nice slow rotation, what you're looking for. Too fast, obviously you hit it too low, too slow, you're hitting it too high, probably going to get blocked. So a nice slow rotation, end over end is what you're looking it too high probably going to get blocked so a nice slow rotation end over ends what you're looking for but those guys that are very incredible and their percentages are very high and they kick in those windy conditions have to hit a clean ball and that's what boswell is

able to do that's why the first time i saw him kick and you first time you see somebody kick you can go oh this fucking guy is going to be a guy because he hits a clean ball and there's some guys that just can't do it i had a little x X to the ball, you know, a little X. So, I mean, I'm using the entire upright, right? Like there's a chance this thing's sneaking in. Vinatieri, he hit a clean ball, but it had a little tiny off kilter. There's some guys, though, that are just like end-over-end perfect balls. And I'll ask them how they do it and why they do it,

and it just happens to be their swing. Like their swing just happens to be are those guys the most consistent yes yeah yeah yeah that's what now Vinatieri did not hit the cleanest ball he just mentally toughed every single just every single I'm an athlete a mentally tough this ball is going in in the worst conditions it doesn't matter but like Tucker and Boz they read the wind obviously they have to have a good operation but normally exactly where they're aiming they're hitting it so it's a uh you know it's a real talent a real skill i believe personally i'm a big fan of them yeah and uh

bucker and carlson they hit pretty boom there's yeah and over oh mason crosby like i i realized how in college mike nugent was the kicker nuge so automatic. Just looked like everything was a chip shot. Mason makes like 60-yarders look like chip shots, and the ball seems to come off pretty clean consistently. Yeah, he has like a tiny female-like swing, Crosby. Just like a small little swing. Out of Colorado, whenever he was drafted, I remember people talking, this guy has a big leg.

And I naturally, being a hater, a guy with a big leg, was like, he played in Colorado. Shut the fuck up. Everybody has a big leg in Colorado. Then I saw, being a hater with a guy with a big leg, was like, he played in Colorado. Shut the fuck up. Everybody has a big leg in Colorado. Then I saw him in Green Bay. I'm like, oh, this guy got a big, big leg. Mason Crosby, absolute goat. But at the beginning, when you come

from an altitude place or a dome place or a warm climate, everybody's like, oh, there's a reason to ball. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But Crosby is unbelievable as well. Bucker's another guy who hits a very clean high ball. You can normally tell quickly if a guy's going to make it or not, and then that's what everybody's working towards that gets on those kicker carousels where they're on a team for like two weeks, then they're off a team,

then they're on a team, then they're off a team. It's like necessity is giving you the job, but they're watching to see if you can hit an NFL ball in every practice, and if you can, you're cheaper than a guy, you're going to going to get the job and if you're not we'll just continue to go back on the merry-go-round well and that's what stinks with crosby too like we talked about it last year i feel like with the packer special teams woes like the operation has kind of been the issue and that's kind of like dropping hit because he's missing a lot more kicks than he ever did and i feel like because of that like he's he's almost he's still incredible but he's almost

kind of gotten the yips like we're early in his career like multiple holders that's why yeah exactly and snappers like they would send him out there and it was it was like boz it's like okay crosby you know 55 and in like no matter what he's making this and now every time he goes out there it's like if he's having a good day he's gonna be nails and if he's having one of those days it's like shit he he might miss four field goals today it kind of sucks i mean that's only happened what once or twice in like 15 years i mean how well i'm saying like yeah you guys though i think his his performance set the standard for him for sure and then i don't want to bury anybody but the year that i wasn't called that lions packers yeah i mean i was watching the film the operation on every miss was horrendous but nobody that's watching packers game was

thinking that and they're getting a negative thought oh this guy's old and he's missing kicks it's 100 on him and then he'll miss a couple in the next year it's like i just think there's so much that goes into it but you're saying he has the yips is a fucking serious yeah that's a very serious statement about mason well i mean like like i said you know you watch enough packers games like it i mean there was that game against the lions a couple years ago he missed like five field goals and i feel like that like really did a number on him and he's bounced back since then but even wait that was the that was the year where rookie punter rookie snapper i think right yeah the year that i went up there uh it

might have been yeah yeah yeah the ball was just spinning every time he kicked the fucking ball exactly and i think that you know like that's part of it like you mentioned it's like people don't i mean all you have to do is look and make you know the packers have had four different special teams coordinators in the last four years it's like hey maybe there's a fucking issue there but i feel like he's kind of gotten he hasn't gotten his, whereas before this all kind of started to happen, like it was like, hey, Mason Crosby's a top three, four kicker in the league. You know what Mason also has is a great onside kick, surprise onside kick. I used to watch his to kind of learn how it is, which is great groin and hip rotation.

He just put that foot up and out and down and through. I'm like, I'm not flexible enough to do that, but I can do it once, maybe maybe twice if we have to i used to just jam my fucking toe right into it as hard as i could just jam my toes mason used the inside of his foot like slapped it i would go straight toe down i'm trying to break my toe off the ball it's like as you're running up to the ball it's like all right here i'm gonna try to break my fucking toe off this thing boom and then the ball flies up in the air like great kick i'm's like, all right, here, I'm going to try to break my fucking toe off this thing. Boom! And then the ball flies up in the air like, great kick.

I'm like, thanks. Yeah, all right. Let's fucking not punt. Yeah. Can I get a goddamn ice on it? But Crosby is incredibly talented. Janikowski, another guy that was really good.

I mean, he fucking used to be able to just put onside kicks. He's in that fucking dirt that they used to have out there. Oh, yeah. He used to, that ball would be like straight off the tee down

and then it would like compact into the fucking dirt and then full dust straight up in the air. And it was like a jump ball everybody had. Not a lot of guys are doing that anymore. And I think it's, you know, the new rules have kind of made a, like a quitting defeated attitude. Like, oh, they don't get a run up. We're not going to be able to get it

I think a lot of people do that but also training to do those practicing those for me it was like alright I'm going to take the last day of my week that I'm working out that I'll have a three day break for and I'm going to fucking try to rip my groin and break my toe

here so I can get this good I could see how people would not want to train that on a regular basis, but Crosby had to a lot, and that's why I think I have a lot of respect. Janikowski had to train that a lot. It's not fun. Nowadays, guys don't do it, so what the fuck? Yeah, why do you think Young Ho is so good at it?

Because he had, what, three on-site games? Young Ho, I don't think he – I'm not sure he hits the high hop. He's great at the placement of the ball. Precision. Yeah, he's like a former soccer player, I'd assume, like most guys are. I'm not sure he hits the high hop. He's great at the placement of the ball. Precision. Yeah, he's like a former soccer player, I'd assume, like most guys are. He has great control of the ball. And the Cowboys, I think, just didn't practice on side of recoveries of that one game. Yeah, a little chopper ball.

I mean, that was awesome to hear pundits. We've never seen anything like that. A watermelon ball. I'll tell you what, it's hard to get the head coach to pass that one because the other team has to be the dumbest football team. Has to be the, but it worked. Great ball, perfect execution. If I, I didn't hit that ball well, so I wouldn't have been able to do it.

So I got nothing but respect for it all. But yeah, there's the people that are good at onside kicks. I have a lot of respect for because it's not fun. It's not easy to train and practice them at all. It hurts. Your fucking shit's weird. And it could fuck up a lot of other stuff. But it's a weapon when you need it.

And it is. There's some kickers that have zero chance of getting one. And everybody in the stadium knows. If you have a kicker that has a chance to get an onside kick, I feel like there is actual hope. Like, hey, there's a one in a hundred chances getting there it's like well it's better than nothing it's better than nothing like when i would go out to do onside kicks towards the end of my career it felt like everybody was expecting like

hey we're getting this ball back right it's like all right here we fucking i guess i'm like yeah i'm gonna try to make a one in a thousand opportunity happen every single time but that's like what you that's why you work at it though like that's what you want there's some kickers I think that don't put any work in and I'm like, you're not willing to do it. You're not willing to go out there and fucking rip your groin to make this happen because that feeling of walking on the field with people expecting an onside kick to be recovered is pretty sweet. It is a pretty sweet, it's an impossible fucking thing nowadays, but like young way walks out

and everybody's like, here we go. We're getting this ball. This is our like Young Way walks out and everybody's like, here we go. We're getting this ball. This is ours. Some guys walk out and it's like, nah. And by the way, I think those vibes are a big part of whether or not you get the ball or not. Is there a massive difference between taking the ball off the tee? Like some guys putting it sideways and trying to do like... Just different kicks that you're

doing. For me, I wanted the ball to be on a tee and tilted as close as far as possible so it opened up and i could fucking come down because i'm trying to spike it through the ground and then clear my foot so it bounces behind my foot so you just got to get through it all like but there's guys that roll it on like it on the ground they could just do the little little bouncer yep that just kind of takes away any air i don't know man there's so many different ways and now since nobody can run nobody really tries anymore it's kind of a defeated thing yeah i mean the rules are a big part of it but like

you mentioned too like i i don't know i mean granted the packers aren't in a position where they're kicking a whole lot of onside kicks but i can't remember in like the last like 10 years where they've went out there and it's been like oh shit like we we actually might recover an onside kick here surprise onside was mason's thing back in the day that was mike mccart big mike used it a lot big mike used to surprise onside a lot with Mason. They haven't really done shit since. No. Joining us now is Change Pages.

There's a trade deadline for the MLB today. Oh, yeah. Big news happening. Huge. Juan Soto, 23-year-old for the Nationals, getting traded to Slam Diego. How? What are the moving parts? Also, there was other trades that happened last night that were a fucking big deal. You get Josh Hader also going to San Diego. How? What are the moving parts? Also, there was other trades that happened last night that were a fucking

big deal. Yeah, Josh Hader also going to San Diego. Frankie Montas going to Yankee. Gallo just went to the Dodgers. Gallo just went to the Dodgers. Okay, here we go. Joining us now is the mayor, a man who works for the MLB Network. He has a podcast

called The Mayor's Office, which has its 100th episode coming up. Huge. Pittsburgh legend, MLB fan favorite, ladies and gentlemen, Sean Casey. Yay! So, fellas. Sean, how you doing, pal?

Life's good over there? It's a big time for the MLB. A lot of moves being made. A lot of teams being created. A lot of teams quitting, too, or no? No, teams aren't quitting, but I'll tell you what. This Juan Soto trade is one of the biggest deals in the history of the game. I mean, 23 years old, generational player.

San Diego, the Nationals got a ton back from San Diego, six huge prospects. So, I mean, these deals are huge. Josh Hader, one of the best closers in the game, going out to San Diego. So there's so many moving parts happening right now. It's a great day for baseball. I mean, the trade deadline is so much fun. But like I said, Juan Soto going out to San Diego, one of the biggest deals in baseball history.

It's great to see you. You've been crushing it on MLB Network. Tosh, your question for the mayor. Yeah, Sean, you mentioned that the Nationals got quite a bit back. But also, I see a lot of people saying that they kind of got fleeced. Why do you think they're so – I mean, I know that Soto turned down the deal they offered, but if you're a Nationals fan, how can you be excited about this when you give that guy away? I mean, they're kind of just staking their future on these prospects,

and we know in baseball there's a very good chance that four out of six or five out of these six guys won't ever pan out yeah well i think the biggest the biggest thing when you look at it is that they offered him 450 million dollars i think it was 15 years for 450 and he turned it down and i think as soon as that happened they had to start shopping them and that that's really what happened he turned down the 450 because he's got boris he's not a free agent for you know another two years after this one so um that was the biggest reason they had to move him they got a lot of good prospects back cj abrams too who's a guy that's in the big leagues right now as a shortstop so but you're right i mean the teams that usually win out are the teams that get the

star and the bottom line is the padres got soto so they're probably gonna end up winning out this deal when you look at at like a guy like Soto going over there, and I'm a Yankees fan, they just got Benintendi. Will guys press? How long does it take to get acclimated to a new team, especially when you go to a place like San Diego and they have a lineup with a bunch of those other studs? Do you think, I mean, obviously you mentioned he's a generational talent,

he'll be good, but how long does it take for a guy to actually get acclimated to like a new club clubhouse and like will will he press and maybe not be as good the first couple weeks well i i think one of the coolest things i went in 2006 i got traded from the buckos to the tigers i went literally went from the ad has to the penthouse in one call it's like here we go you know i mean i'm like I was with the Pirates. We were terrible. I was like, oh, man, I'm from Pittsburgh, so I kind of was enjoying it. But I'm like, all right, I'm ready to get out of here.

Traded to Detroit with Leland and those guys. It was so great. And I think as a player, you're just fired up to, like, contribute. Right? You want to contribute, and you want to get out there and show that you're worth the trade. So I think for Soto going out to the Padres, I think it's going to up his game. I mean, he's been talked about getting traded for so long now. I think that that's over. He's

going to go out to San Diego and absolutely dominate for these next two months. When you look at the Nationals, how hard is it? I mean, you mentioned it being on the Pirates. How hard is it for those guys to still show up? I mean, we have 60-some games left. How hard is it for those guys who are still on the team to show up i mean we have you know what 60 some games left like how hard is it for those guys who

are still on the team to show up every single day when you you basically know like hey we're just punting on this season it's a grind it's a grind because it's 162 game season you know you're 20 games out or whatever it is you know i think the the worst thing you do is when you start playing for your stats you're like oh man i'm playing for my stats you want to be playing for the guys you want to be playing for the pennant race you want to be coming down the stretch and start playing for your stats, you're like, oh, man, I'm playing for my stats. You want to be playing for the guys. You want to be playing for the pennant race. You want to be coming down the stretch and be playing for something. So when you're on a team like the Nationals down the stretch, that's a tough thing. So for Soto to go to a team now that's in second place in the West,

they've got great pitching, they've got a lot of star power, Tatis is coming back. It's such a boost of confidence to him that he'll be so ready to go when he gets out to San Diego. Sean, do you know, is everything finalized with the Soto deal? I know we saw Eric Hosmer was maybe initially part of that, but he had a no trade clause. And then now I don't know if it's been confirmed,

but he might be going to Boston. Do you know what's going to end up happening and where like some of these pieces are going to end up in this Soto deal? No, definitely some moving parts. I think that was the big stickler was that Hosmer had a no trade clause to 10 teams and the Nationals was one of them. So when they sent him to Washington, he's like, I ain't going there. You know?

I think that mixed it up real nice. And so then they had to really get creative. So, yeah, I think – I don't know totally what the end deal is, but I know Hosmer wasn't going to the Nationals and they had to pivot a little bit there. Go ahead, Tony. Mayor, I got a question. We saw Tony La Russa potentially falling asleep in the dugout last night.

I mean, does that happen? Like I know Jim Whelan was ripping too many darts. That would never happen to Jim. But is that something that happens? Oh, there's no doubt. I remember my first year in the big leagues, I'd get up there. And, you know, Jack McKeon at the time was like – I think he was like 75, 76, just kind of grinding a little bit.

You know, I looked down there one day. It was like June, super hot. I looked down, and he's just sawing logs. Just – and I'm like, hey, Jack McKeon is sleeping at the end of the dugout. So I think as guys get older, like a Tony La Russa, I remember Frank Robinson was sleeping in the dugout sometimes. So those guys just need a quick cat nap, and bam, they're off and rolling after their 20-minute nap. You sleeping during games out there at all?

You falling asleep? Ah! I felt like it at times, but I was like, no, I can't fall asleep. You're paying me too much money. Hey, a hundredth episode of the mayor's office. Did I get that right? Congratulations. Thank you. Yeah. A hundredth episode coming up next week or coming up this week on Friday. And you know, it's funny when you do that stuff, you're like, if we can just get to 10, we're going to be good. So we're kind of fired up. We're at 100, grinding it out.

It's been a ton of fun. Here's to the next 1,000, pal. Go ahead, AJ. That's right. Sean, can we find a way to let some of these players know that they're traded before the media has to let them know? It seems like this consistently happens every once in a while. Yeah, isn't that crazy, AJ?

You saw the other day uh oh yeah dude it's like yeah so yeah he's with the red sox and then they're like he's going to houston they're playing them and he's like and they're like hey did how do you feel about getting traded he's like what i have no idea what's going on here so yeah that's that that's as a player there's there was there's nothing worse than hearing it from the media that you've been traded i think you know at times uh you know you you owe it to hear it from your club and and and and sometimes i feel like they already know they're gonna do it let me know before it gets down to uh you know defcom five where the media's got to tell me so hosmer is going to boston so right now is there um so this is a clear and evident picture of the teams that are worth the fuck right now this season and teams that aren't like san diego are they going to be able to pay juan soto or is

this just they're picking up the deal that the nationals already had for him and like is it because they're good right now how should we be how should we be viewing these trades and the teams that are making them right now mayor well i think i think the biggest thing pat is that the guys that you know that you're trading out there Soto's got $27 million, I think, for next year. He's not a free agent for another two years. So you're obviously going to have to pay the money. But the teams that are getting these guys, like a guy like Soto and Padres, they're going for it. They've locked up Tatis, they've locked up Manny Machado. They had to get rid of Hosmer because they did need to free up some money there. But these teams don't really care. They're going to be over the luxury tax, but they don't care. They want to win. They want to win now. And the reason you have

prospects at the end of the day is to trade them for frontline players. And the teams that are in it right now, they don't really care about the money. Excuse me, Mayor. I really wanted the Yankees to go after Soto, but I think as it kind of progressed, everyone knew that wasn't really care about the money. Excuse me, Mayor. I really wanted the Yankees to go after Soto, but I think as it kind of progressed, everyone knew that wasn't really going to happen. When you look at what Judge is doing, he's going to break Roger Maris' record this year. I personally think he's the best player in baseball, maybe a little biased.

And I think part of the reason they maybe didn't get Soto is because they need to give him anywhere from $500 million to $1 billion in this offseason. Have you ever seen someone have a season like that? I mean, not counting Barry Bonds and McGuire and those kind of guys in the steroid era, but has anyone had a season like this in recent memory? And do you think there's any way the Yankees can let him walk in free agency? Those are all great questions.

It's incredible to see what Judge is doing. It's great to see because he kind of like he kind of bet on himself He turned down the deal, but then then kind of bet on himself So, you know, I think the biggest thing with judges man I don't think we haven't seen this since McGuire Sosa bonds, you know back in the late 90s 2000s And so it's incredible I did think I did think there was a chance if Judge did walk that they maybe traded for Soto and then signed

him long term but looks like obviously that's not going to happen. My rookie year was when McGuire and Sosa were doing that chase. It was incredible and I think McGuire hit 60 against us and I remember thinking to myself if he hits 62 against us I'm going to stop and hug him when he rounds first

and at least if I don't play another day in the big leagues, I'll be the guy to hug McGuire. Why do you think Aaron's having so much success? It's not the balls, obviously. Is he just seeing the ball because he bet on himself better than ever and he's the best hitter in baseball? Is that just evident? I feel that way.

I feel like he put a little chip on his shoulder. You don't want to really sign me to what I'm worth. I'm going to go out and show you what I'm worth. And it turns out he's a pretty good player. I mean, he's, he's sitting right now. There's no park that can hold him. He's, he's, he's a good hitter too. He's not just a home run guy.

He's an average hitter. He drives and runs. It's incredible. So he's really, you got to love what Aaron judge is doing. You know, being a, being a former really, you got to love what Aaron Judge is doing. You know, being a former player, you guys know how tough professional sports are. When you turn down big money that's over 200 million and you say to yourself, I'm betting on myself, and then you go ahead and do it. It's pretty impressive. Hell yeah. Congrats, Aaron Judge on that.

Love you, Judge. Just as a baseball, you know, amateur, you know know like not knowing much about it hitting much more important than field uh no doubt about it because you got to score runs at the big league level the good teams they got the great pitching you have to have guys that are going to win your ball games because you could have a lot of guys that feel the balls but if you can't score runs you ain't winning so i think the biggest thing is you know you've got to be able to score some runs sean can you go through your your your routine you had in the batter's box a little bit with your gloves and the leg lifts and everything i think it's amazing i think i think a lot of the quarterbacks that lift their leg in the shotgun i think they took it from you in the box

you know it was crazy bro i don't know what i was doing but i don't know if i was that good of a player but i was always like like, well, he looks good. Double stretch, do the batting gloves and I would get in double chicken wing. I don't know why I did that. But it was it worked double chicken wing, then double shoulder roll. And then I would do this, this leg lift thing. And I don't know, I don't know what was going on was more like a you know, it just made me feel good. And I remember, sometimes, you know, when I get in and I

didn't do it, I'd be like, Okay, last time I got a knock, did three leg lifts you know and then i'm like what's up and hey aj here's a real quick story don zimmer comes up to me one time back in the day one of the greatest guys ever he comes up to me he goes case he goes i've been into big leagues for 50 plus years he goes i've seen a lot of stuff he goes i've seen two guys He goes, I ain't never seen this right here. I ain't never seen this. I'm like, well, Don, welcome to the big leagues, brother. Well, we appreciate you, Sean. Congrats on all your success in the big leagues with no matter what your fucking batter's stance is. He used to be able to put the ball over to your arm.

Oh, yeah. Sean Casey used to be able to see the ball, put the ball wherever the hell he wanted to do it. Pittsburgh legend, baseball legend. 100th episode of the mayor's office is coming out. is electric congrats on all the success and we appreciate the hell out of you man you guys are the best thanks for having me on i'll see you guys soon hey you look good you look good thank you brother thank you i can't come off the top lip like you and he's the best he's the fucking best.

He's the fucking best. Every time he's on, I'm like, how is that human in baseball? Unbelievable. He's the complete opposite of baseball. Consummate clubhouse guy. Need that guy for the long season. Locker room guy. AJ, I bawled it through the end there, but nonetheless,

feel the beat got me in my feelings. I can't wait to do that tomorrow, AJ. I can't wait to Feel the Beat. We can do Feel the Beat during the season, too, I feel like. Oh, yeah. This is a real segment, I think. I think it'll be very... We need to know injury reports on Wednesdays,

maybe Thursdays, whatever day we do it. I think it'll be informative. You know what we can do? If we're a real show, we'll get it sponsored. we can do? If we're a real show, we would get it sponsored. Oh, feel the beat? If we're a real show. What kind of sponsor do you think? Feel the beat by Bose.

Yeah. Oh, there it is. Wow. What'd he say? Rites itself. Yeah. Or feel the beat by Beats. By Beats?

Yeah. You know what I mean? Or Skullcandy. Skullcandy. Raycon. JBL. Raycon. by Beats. Yeah. You know what I mean? Or Skullcandy. Skullcandy. Why? JBL. Raycon. Maybe just like Drake.

Just Drake sponsors it. Wiz Khalifa. Feel the beat presented by Drake. Send him a DM. Presented by Wiz Khalifa. Huh. All right. Who?

That'd be sweet. Dr. Dre. Just Dr. Dre. That's what a real show would do. A real business would do. 50 Cent. But we're not going to do that. Kid Rock. Kid Rock could sponsor it.

That. I'll never. In my head I just saw Kid Rock with both hands. Let's go. Did you see how long his hair was dude? His hair was all the way down to here. Cleaned that.

Made out with Chelsea. Tammy. Tammy. Tammy Chelsea. Is that Jake's sister? What a moment. Look at you guys. So sweet.

I think he's drinking tongue in the louvre. Yeah, it's in a real museum. That's where the Mona Lisa is, right? Yeah. Somebody's going to throw a cake at it. What? You thought about it. Is that Jake's sister?

No, don't start that again. What? You're guys throwing pies and everything with these mascots. You're defaming them. Dude. No, I'm not talking about mascots. I'm talking about somebody that was an activist. It was for global warming.

We're not talking about Steve Aoki either. They also glued their hands to the fucking Mona Lisa the other day. Glued it to the... Yeah, they took... Really? They took quick care

of those people. Who did you ask? Hey, if somebody glues their hands to this thing, you pop it. Who did AJ... Jordan Schultz, of course.

Jordan Schultz. Oh, yeah. Starbucks. Because it happened. It did happen. Of course. Jordan Schultz. It was a succession.

Yeah. Of course. Oh, my God. Yeah, the brother. Yeah. Of course. Oh, my God. Yeah, the brother. Yeah. Carl or whatever his name is. Connor. Connor.

Carl. Connor. Great name. I mean, that guy, he really comes into form in the third season. Connor did it, too. He's probably the worst character. Blackbird and Acer just put them all out there. Yeah.

Hey, one more finale this week. Just let me fucking do it. All right, let's hit some things with it just let me watch it all the time you you had to stay up all night for terminal list those are long episodes uh-huh i don't know when i started it but yeah i've been like piecing together at times yeah after smackdown i started one and you're not the first episode but i started like the next that i had couldn't stop stayed up till three and watched the whole thing we tried to finish it yesterday. It's so good.

I've also found that a lot of shows if I see it's like dialogue or the scene is dark and you can't see much, I'm hitting that 10 second boom boom boom boom boom. I'm going past some stuff. Get a nice TV cheapskate. What's that have to do with it? So you just skipped all of Terminalist. I didn't say

all of it. I said every once in a while. There's a fair amount of dark scenes. Or they're setting the scene of like, oh, there's nothing really going on. Boom. I'm going for it. How do you know? Because I'm only 10 seconds on that one. On Prime Video, it's only 10 seconds.

So it's very easy. You are the best. What a maniac. People attack me for my style of watching stuff because I'll fall asleep in the middle of it. I don't watch anything and I'll get up and leave and that whole thing you piss on every script that you write you watch no i have so much you take out your dong and piss on a script every dialogue part has purpose pal you think they're just wasting lines in there not setting anything anything up? Does it? Does all the dialogue need to be there

to know the story? Hey, Jack Carr, you're fucking terrible at writing. I'm going to A.J. Hawk. Jack Carr's amazing. The whole book, everything is amazing about it, but he would understand.

You better hope he doesn't see your ass downrange, pal. Yeah. He might be on next week, by the way, from what we've been told. Can't wait for that.

I would like to watch a highlight with you, A.J. Hawk, because you do recall, if you do recall, I assume you do, you, because you were here with us, when COVID came into the world and said, what's up? Like, I'm fucking, I'm dad now. That's what COVID said. Everybody go to your rooms, you know?

March Madness? Nah. Are you talking Fauci or are you talking COVID? I'm talking COVID. I'm talking actual COVID. Fouch was the voice for COVID, though. COVID showed up and said, everybody go to your fucking rooms. All right, I'm going to fucking do some real shit.

March Madness postponed, inevitably canceled. The Utah Jazz game, if you do recall, minutes or hours after Rudy Gobert touched everybody's microphone and said, I'm not scared of boogeyman. We, we, we we and then goes out there and the uh pa announcer goes hey nobody panic but fucking everybody needs to exit to the building as soon as possible we're all gonna die and once again nobody panic just fucking exit out of here and there was women and children going and we're all watching this as we're getting messages on social media from people in italy that were like you americans have no idea what is about to come through your country you think

it's all fun and games you're talking about being over here once this fucking son of a bitch shows up everything's getting shut down whether you like it or not we're like nah it's the land of the free okay because of the brave ain't no nothing stopping this country. We're wrong. Sports were stopped. Everything was stopped. Live events were stopped. Shows were stopped.

Our show was able to continue to go because we were a necessity deemed that way. And we're in Indiana where we had enough space to continue to go. We, at one point, were one of the only live things happening in the world. Lucky to do so strictly because of where we lived and how our studio was set up and how you know grossly oversized it was yeah for sure yeah and it didn't have to be just was 100 my fault but nonetheless everything stopped except for one sport for two extra days it felt like we got a chance to experience an island continent play their native sport. And we fell in love with a competition that we didn't even know existed. Here in America, we would have called it rugby, no doubt about it.

Instead, we were introduced to Aussie rules football in the AFL, the Australian Football League. This is a sport that none of us knew existed, had no idea about, and found out quickly when everything else was stopped and it was still happening, this might be the most electrifying fucking sport in the world. It had punting. It had speckies, which are catches,

mossing people. It had riveting moments. And it had massive shots and tackles. It felt like it combined every good thing from every sport and put it into one. The only problem was these fucking games were running at 3 a.m. because Australia is on the other side of flat earth. It's also on the other side of actual round earth as well.

Which one is it? I'm a big round earth guy, but I'll tell you what, not diving into that conversation because i've flown to japan one up over earth i thought but what if everything's a movie set i mean there's arguments to be made by everybody but i do believe we start digging we're gonna end up on the other side of earth as opposed to just digging through a hole like earth is paper but i'm not getting into the argument with the people that believe that because honestly i don't have enough time and my blinders are on the greatest sport i didn't

know existed until a couple years ago aussie rules football was a savior now it inevitably got shut down it came back early last night my team the callingwood magpies playing ascendant fc which was i believe your first team or your third team never by team yeah maybe third or fourth yeah you were bouncing around that fucking league more than covet yeah yeah with who you were picking and choosing to be a fan of collingwood magpies the home of mason cox they're also known as coxzilla the only american to have true success in the AFL, had a nail-biting triumphant

last second, final minute, final moment, walk-off win. Let's put this thing on. So if you look at the score, we're in the fourth quarter. You can turn the sound on.

Fourth quarter, 42 seconds left. 76-74, down two. The Collingwood Magpies need to get down the field. And it doubles! Back three! From the Collingwood Magpie named Jamie Elliott. Dog. So the way you move the ball down the field is you run,

you bounce, and you punt it ahead. And when somebody catches it, they get all the time they need to line up a kick or they can hand pass it and punt it to somebody else. Jamie Elliott is his name, was tasked with ending this AFL game at home in front of 75,000 at a terrible angle. Horn goes off in his backswing. Boom! Get to Sharon! Sharon!

Put it through the pipes, and that's a walk-off game winner from Jamie Elliott down under. He put this son of a bitch through those sons of bitches from an incredibly hard angle and in front of 75,000 people at the Melbourne Cricket MCG. The Collinwood Palace, as they call it. What a win. The AFL is all the way back, isn't it, AJ? I think we need to start watching. AJ, actually, that's what we're going to task you with.

Yes. We need you to watch every single game and give us an update on the daily because that sport was too good for us to forget about immediately upon sports that are on at our time coming back. You know what I mean, AJ? Yeah, I got it. I can absolutely. I'll be the AFL guy.

I will keep you updated on all things going on. That was not my team originally or ever, my third or fourth or fifth team. But that kick from that angle, that seemed impossible, actually. Can you run the end of that kick back and turn up the sound, actually? Listen to this fucking horn that the game's over. Ain't his back swing, this dude. He's got run back just the final kick he's got fans two feet away from him there's a woman over there that's just going

come on you cunt and remember in australia they use that right i am just i am just quoting these people that are screaming in jamie elliott's ear from two feet away with the game on the line here from the side. And then, go ahead and play it with sound. Siren goes. Wow, the siren's gone. Jamie Elliott! Jamie Elliott! Geez.

Unreal. Why is it this bigger than soccer? Why isn't this sport bigger? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know, because when was Australia created? How was Australia created? And how easy was it to get that game off of the island to everywhere else?

Soccer was just kind of created, I think, amongst a bunch of sports that were all connected to every continent because they were all traveling. But AFL, Oswego's football is the sport that I wish I grew up playing. That's a fucking sport that I think I was supposed to play, and I wish it was more popular, but I think the biggest issue is the time that it's played. It is going to be impossible for us to keep up with it.

We tried. We were waking up like 5.30, 6 a.m. to watch the tail end of this fucking game. Yeah. Recording them. I was so proud of us. So proud of us. I still check Hugh McCluggage's stats every chance I get. Yeah.

He's a player. Make sure. See how Brisbane's doing. Check in. Well, the issue is Hugh can't fucking carry Bailey Smith's chalk. No, no, no. Check the fucking league table right now. Hugh McCluggage is a dog.

No, Mason Cox. Coxzilla has come into full form. The American is an absolute champion over there right now. Hugh McCluggage is a dog. Mason Cox. Coxzilla has come into full form. The American is an absolute champion over there. He recently got his Australian citizenship. Congrats to him. Way to go, Coxzilla. What are their taxes like? I think it's pretty high.

I don't think they're paying. I do not think... By the way, we can get into our any taxes fair conversation if we want to but we've already done too much tax talk I think Australia

has pretty high taxes I think I would assume I think but they probably got other shit you know because the taxes are high

like universal health care universal health care probably roads that are good yeah free rue on Wednesdays

or something spaghetti bowl of rue there it is all right popular dish what is that cricket arena called though is it melbourne am i giving it the wrong city no mcg i thought it was no you guys watch more cricket cricket grounds i'm gonna be honest it's tough for me to get into cricket. I have tried. Does anyone understand cricket? No. Yeah, I do. So the one guy with the baseball. Okay. Sure. He is the pitcher.

Look at him as Nolan Ryan. Yes. Okay. He gets to crow hop, though, and run as if he's a javelin thrower. Yeah. So he gets to, right? Mm-hmm. And while doing so, as if he's a high jumper as well,

he has a rhythm, and then it is a fast-pitch softball in reverse motion. Yeah, over the top. Yeah, yeah. But they are, I believe they're throwing. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's a throwing the hand down with this hand. Yeah. Crow hop, skip, timing, boom.

They're trying to one-hop and bust the wood. Yeah. Bust the wicket. Bust the wicket. Bust the wicket is what they're doing. And then the person that's wearing full body night garb, like dressing like a knight hopping off a horse, they're just trying to bat that son of a bitch from hitting the wood, right? Right.

And I believe put it in play. I don't know exactly how it works. And then you're playing pickle. You're running. No, they don't run then, though. They don't run to like first base. No, they run back and forth You're running. No, they don't run then, though. They don't run to, like, first base. No, they run back and forth between the wickets. What was that game called?

Pickle. Rundown. Rundown. Rundown. Pickle. Pickle. Pickle. Rundown.

Pickle is called rundown, right? You used to play that game. Then they're doing that, right? And the amount of times that they get by the time the ball gets back, I think, is points. But the games go for, like, months. Don't they? They go for days. Well, if you've got a good fucking pitcher, you've got a good Nolan Rundown. Yeah, like months, don't they? Yeah, they go for days.

Well, if you've got a good fucking pitcher, you've got a good Nolan Rodgers. Yeah, you've got a good hurler. You're in shape. Okay. Do you rotate? Are there innings to rotate and you go to the field? There are innings, yes. They throw that sumbitch so hard.

So hard. And then that person's just standing in there. All right, don't kill me there. Just waiting. I have respect for the cricket players. I've never gotten into it, obviously, because I'm not from a country that plays cricket. And that's a tough sport just to get into.

You should get into Highline. That Johnny Knoxville episode where he just gets hit with six. Just throwing grapefruits at him. That's how I was introduced to Highline. And I, man Man that jackass run That jackass era Nobody will understand unless you live through it It was

Do you remember that? Our dumbass friends hopping in grocery carts Buggies just running themselves into bushes They had Brad Pitt Remember they had Brad Pitt on an episode Dressed in a mask running around doing the same thing Still doing it by the way That movie was good, man.

Well, we don't want it. Poopies. Poopies. Poopies is on fire. Poopies got back in the water on Shark Week. You did? Yeah. First time.

With the whole crew. Do we still have Poopies? The Quest hotline? I could probably circle back and see what Poopies is up to. Let's check in on Poopies. See if we can get him back. I know David Baker used the... Did Poopies use the Subway Let's check in on Poopies. See if we can get him back. I know David Baker used it. Did Poopies use the Subway gift card that we sent him?

Yeah, right away. How else was he going to eat lunch that day? Yeah, of course. Why wouldn't he? That was real deep thinking, by the way. Why wouldn't he use it? What, are you supposed to look at it? All right, bro.

One last call on the 5RNG. Find a line, get a 5RNG.com. Use promo code MAC for to receive 10% off. This show is so bad. You hear me? We've been talking for, sorry, 16 minutes now straight in this after hours show. Yeah. I've seen worse.

For sure. From us? I agree. I mean, you talking about those COVID times. There was some stuff back then we talked about too. Dude. I talked to Dan Patrick. Obviously, we've chatted about this a lot. A lot came up in the conversation, though. He said,

I asked him, how have you done 16 off-season? They've done the show for 16 years. How have you done 16 off-season? He said, well, there is no off-season. I'm like, bullshit, Dan. Bullshit. He talks all sports, though, a lot, doesn't he? Yeah, I think he's well-versed.

And also, he is obviously a great interviewer, great conversation. So, you know, he's incredibly talented at what he does. But this past offseason, man, there is numerous. I mean, we're still kind of in it right now, and we're going to be for the next three weeks. Remember, I think this is kind of what we learned last year. Yeah, kind of like a false sense of excitement. Yeah, like, hey, we're back. There's always something

though. There is something, but most of it's all bullshit. It's better than the beginning of July. Yes. Absolutely. It's only getting better. Every day, though, we're slowly building up. So it's only getting better. It's not getting worse. And there's a lot of news. We're not going to slingshot back. Are we a part of a problem, though, with

what our off-season show was? No. What do you mean? I don't think so. Because we had, we did. I feel like we're potentially a part of a problem. Do you think back to all the bullshit that we talked about? You mean what?

Yesterday when you have a GM and you bring him in talking cream pies and mascots, and then, oh, hey, here we go. We are a part of the problem. That's what you just said. What I just heard is we are a part of the problem. I didn't say I'm still confused as to what you guys were even talking about. Oh, yeah. Is that right?

I bet you are. I'll send you an instructional video. The problem with you is you call, then you get out, then you call back. You double penetrate our show. Yeah. So much. All the time. That was pretty true.

That was good. That was a good one, man. Well, you tried to force that one in earlier today. You. You did. Motherfucker. Seeing it in your eyes, pal. All right. one in earlier today. You. You did. Mother fucker. See it in your eyes, pal. All right, let's get to the phones.

Ray in Virginia, what's going on? What part of Virginia are you in, Ray? What are you saying? I'm in Whitfield, Virginia. What are you saying, Ray? I can't really hear you, but I'm happy to hear you're calling from a part of Virginia that we obviously love. Great people in that part of Virginia.

Oh, yeah, yeah. What do you want to talk about, Ray? What do you say, Ray? Hey, what do you say now, Ray? What do you say, Ray? Hey, just me. Hey, baby. I was just looking at some stats earlier for Aaron Rodgers because I'm a big Packers fan.

Oh, yeah, right. He's 51 touchdowns away from 500, seven picks away from 100. And I really believe that he can really hit 500 touchdowns before he hits 100 interceptions for his career. Okay, so 51 tuds away from 500, seven interceptions away from 100. Obviously, he has like the top seven touchdown interception ratio seasons in the history of the NFL. He is incredibly cautious of the program,

incredibly cautious of what you need to win. Incredibly cautious of the ball. But he still puts up numbers against everybody else. Seven interceptions, though? That's like two years, right? Yeah, I mean... That's two years for him. Yeah, he hasn't thrown more than, I think, five and...

He threw two against Tampa last year, right? He did. Opening week. Saints. Yeah, Saints. Ended the season with, I think, and two against Tampa last year. He did. And I think opening week ended. Yeah. Saints ended the season with, I think five or six and four of the last three. Yeah. I mean, how many times has he thrown two in one game?

Well, that's, I think it was Tampa. Tampa. He did a couple years ago. Oh, that was two years ago. Yeah.

That was COVID. Uh, first year of COVID. Right. Last year was a little bit open. He was against the saints. I mean, his second one too, it was just like, all right, we're down by two touchdowns. And he said he got punched in the balls, too.

Yeah. That was on the first one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, I do remember that. Yeah, because he'll have like a game where he'll have a couple. By the way, this guy can't play football anymore. He stinks. This guy's lost it.

And then, you know, he won't throw another one for four months. Yeah. It's like, holy shit. Last year was with all the, like, disputes that came out during the draft, too. So when he started off the season like that, everyone was like, he's such a problem off the field. This is what happens when you're off season. It's nothing. And then he won the MVP.

Yeah. Again. He's an alien. Yeah. That guy's an alien. Yeah. Of course. He really is you think he's gonna stay with the nick cage book what's the next growth when the hair gets no longer is he gonna be that guy from asian shore pet detective who's in the um

next to the um next to the stage with all the aquarium i thought you're gonna have a challenge for me, Ace. You know who I'm talking about? You know who I'm talking about? What's that guy's name? Is it the Red or the White? I never remember this one. Is that who he's next?

It's probably going to be Dredd next. That or like Weird Al Yankovic maybe. He should perm it. Joe Dirt? That's what I'm saying. What if he does go Joe Dirt? What if he goes mullet? Not a bad idea.

Not a bad idea at all. That's how you know we're close. True. Russell Wilson showed up in Team 3 gear in his own jersey. Yep. Beast. This asshole dressed as Nicolas Cage from... Con Air.

And then grew his mustache back and let everybody know it's back. It's time. This guy is the best. He's a movie character. He's a movie character. How could he be as dominant as he is in as much bullshit conversation as he is and still just kind of bounce through life,

whatever, everybody can go fuck themselves? We used to think it was bad, and then it has only gotten, you know, that conversation has expanded tenfold in the last two three years did you see him talking to baldy and lindsey talked about his um his tattoo on he looks very comfortable doesn't he looks very calm balls flying out there he's teaching up razzle douglas about things feels like he is uh very very seems doesn't he seem very like uh he seems comfortable seems happy like seems to be really enjoying himself.

Pumped about everything. It's about his godchildren. Two of them. Two of them. Is one of them your kid? Isn't one of them yours? No. Oh, wow.

What's that all about? Are you sure? Are you just saying that? You don't want him to have to add more art to his arm? Jesus. I don't know. It feels like it might be a lot. How come nobody makes me a godfather or anything, by the way? Yeah, what the hell is that about? Oh, I know why. I know why. I haven't been baptized. I don't know. It feels like it might be. How come nobody makes me a godfather or anything, by the way?

Yeah, what the hell is that about, Ty? Oh, I know why. I know why. I haven't been baptized, I don't think. I have a joke. What the hell, Ty?

No, no, no. Dude, I am not. I was going to say that was me to take a shot at my life. It's family a lot. A lot of times

family members. It's family because it's a massive responsibility if you actually were to die or something. I believe there's actual rules, too, on who is supposed to be allowed to be a godfather.

All right, I'm out then. I assume you are, yes. I'm done. I'm not doing it. Have you been baptized? Yeah. So I think you're actually in. I don't think I have been.

I'm not sure. Do you have to be baptized? By fire. I think you have to. I could probably baptize you. Oh, with Lordo, we get it. No, I mean, I've done a few weddings. I'm an official pastor.

Now you're a minister of love. No, that's not what my title says. That's what mine says, right? What is mine? I have one. I think it is minister of love. Minister of love? What site did you go to?

FlavaFlav.com. That's 15 bucks. You got the same one. What are you talking about? Probably. I don't remember ever saying minister of love. Well, that's because in your head, you're like, yeah, I'm a preacher now. That's what you just said. I can

baptize you. I've done weddings. You don't have to do anything special. To be a preacher, you just got to go preach and have people there to listen. I've asked many people. Not like you can't be a Catholic priest, but you can go and do it somewhere else. That's been mentioned to me.

Hey, I was thinking about making you a godfather because I feel like you're going to be successful for a long time and you need to take care of the kid I'm like don't, please don't that's a lot of responsibility, I'll just be a cool uncle forever and also, god I don't know if I'm all in

just the initial reports of it yeah, that was actually what I was going to say to you you've got to be a man of faith to be the godfather also of your kid you know it's a little then what that's your problem no you know jeez it's not a burden you're lucky i agree but in some cases i don't want your kid you know jeez that's why you would say no to being a godfather exactly

yeah you're just no one's gonna ask you no I'll help him out nobody will ask you no maybe Conor's had a very successful life you know how many

sunglasses this guy owns no one's asked me because they know I'd say no last phone call here let's go to Stephen in Louisville what's going on Stephen

yeah doing great boys how we doing today hey not too shabby man hope you and your godfather doing great what boys. How are we doing today? Hey, not too shabby, man. Hope you and your godfather are doing great. What do you want to talk about? Well, brother, you know what? I'm having a little bit of a rough day. I'm calling to push back on something you said earlier in relation to the

tampering punishment the Dolphins received. All right. You know, you had said that nobody really cares about that first round that third round draft pick that we lost and uh as a lifelong dolphins fan it seems like my uh life is consisted of like 10 nine and seven seasons consecutively and the only bright spot and consistent spot of excitement and hope has has been the draft for myself and i'll be honest if uh if goodell had any integrity he'd uh he foresold steph ross ross to sell the fins man and uh to speak on integrity man i i don't mean to throw anyone under the bus but uh i made a bet with your old boy back

there mitt and it seems like he's ducking it and as as a member of the Hammer Dong crew, I'm starting to wonder, man, is Mitt actually one of the boys? Oh, no. Shit. Obviously, we have no idea what that is. But, Mitt, you're on somebody's books, pal. You need to figure that one out. Follow-up.

You still got one draft pick in the first round? You just got one of your two gone. No big deal. Hey, you could bundle those, maybe go top five. If two isn't great, I think it was a lot of people were thinking. But you still have one first-round draft pick, and that should be exciting. But that punishment for Steven Ross, 11.55, that's a weird time to come out, isn't it?

That's a weird time to come out. Who makes that decision? Raj. For Steven Ross, I would imagine it was well worth it for the the slight chance that he could change the the landscape of the nfl with top bringing tom brady sean payton if he was able to somehow pull that off yeah so there is we found an article because remember we were thinking about payton potentially getting offered this from the titans and allegedly because i was just remembering it,

we had not read about it in years. It just came up in conversation when Tom Brady potentially became owner and player at the same time. How would that affect the salary cap? Allegedly what was going to happen with the Titans and Peyton was a lifetime contract and then they dove into it a little further.

He'd have to have one deal as like an employee or as like an owner and then one deal as a player so they would have separated those two you could have separated those two uh i guess is what the article that got brought up so he could have i guess owned the team in one and then been a player in the other and it would it would have been separated from each other i guess is where illamu did it that's the NHL. What keeps them, though? What would keep them from saying, okay, your player contract, you get paid league minimum, but your owner deal, you get 50 a year.

They would go around it. Yeah, exactly. There's no way they're going to let that happen, though. Well, there's not going to be a lot of owners that are going to open up ownership for players, though. Yeah. No, but I mean, yeah, I know. That's what I'm saying.

I don't think Tom was probably the last guy that could happen. It could happen for, like, what if Pat Mahomes is up next? Mahomes. Mahomes is part of it. Mahomes and I mean, yeah, I know. That's what I'm saying. I don't think it'll, you know. Tom was probably the last guy that could happen. It could happen for, like, what if Pat Mahomes is up next? Mahomes. And he wants a part of it. Mahomes and Chiefs, right? That's the Hunt family. Yep. They got cake, I assume.

But also, I mean, keep Mahomes around. But it's every percentage or half a percentage or whatever the fuck percentage of an NFL team, that deal immediately becomes the most valuable deal in NFL history. You know? Well, if you're a minority owner, oh, what did you throw in some money? Oh, I threw 100 mil at them, and you're still nothing compared to the percentage of ownership you had.

But that 100 mil is going to be worth a bill pretty soon. We can actually dive into the valuations of some of these sports programs. And the Dallas Cowboys are the most valuable sports program in the world, surpassing the Yankees by like $700 million or something like that. So the Dallas Cowboys are in first at $7.6 billion. The New York Yankees are a $7 billion valued company. The Knicks are $6.1 billion. Golden State Warriors, $6 billion.

Now look at, other thanallas new york and golden state and then los angeles is next those are also the most expensive places to live so you'd assume the valuation is already high both on the real estate they have and on the business that they keep so dallas out winning all of them is just a testament to that fucking marketing genius that is jerry jones and the way they operate down in Dallas, Texas. Not that Dallas isn't a big city, but you get it. The New England Patriots, $5 billion. Congrats to Kraft.

The Giants, again, another L.A. team. Then San Francisco. Then another Boston team. The Red Sox. Then the Bears. Then the Los Angeles Dodgers. So a lot of big city where things are already valued high because of the real estate. Dodgers. So a lot of big city where things are already valued high because the real estate,

but congrats to the Dallas Cowboys being the most valuable program in all of professional sports. And that number is only going to continue to climb. So if you do some quick math and you get a chunk of the Dallas Cowboys, you get a percentage of the Dallas Cowboys, 7.6 billion divided by a hundred is what? 760 million million so that's immediately what one percent is worth so you get a half a percent that's what 380 million dollars that's just sitting there currently let alone what that could become later i mean it is a never-ending supply of money and it's only going to go up and up and up and up and up and up and up how are these teams like the the giants and the bears are on this list and they don't have any money in the related businesses category i don't know zoom in let me see it i mean the cowboys have 497 million related businesses but i don't know the giants have none besides the bears right it's like the

patriot place like it's those kind of things yeah yeah yeah yeah so like there's a lot of money to be had for chicago new york if they can find a way to capitalize on it. Well, so the Giants media deal is probably nuts then, right? Yeah. Yeah, that's why the revenue is at 16. But also, owning the stadium. They can't own anything around the stadium because they're too landlocked already, right?

But who owns the stadium itself? MetLife, Own, Buy. Because even the Niners and the Lakers. Because that property value there goes into the valuation. Right. The entire thing, right? For Chicago, it's the Park District. Owns it?

That's why they want to go to Arlington, right? Yes. So that the ownership group that doesn't vote on anything or do anything can own everything. Yes. Got it. Good business. Anyways, what we're saying is if a player gets ownership, fucking awesome.

Yeah. Just don't know if it's ever going to happen again. Wish it could have taken place there with Tom, but New England, Tampa Bay, not happy about the tampering. Nope. And New Orleans ain't happy about it either. Two very out of nowhere retirements. Turns out there was a reason.

There was conversation. And the NFL did find, as such, in their independent investment. MetLife is a joint venture between the Giants and the giants and the jets okay so split that down there then all the businesses that operate in that place in the amount of people watching all the local games so the advertising there's so much that's why it's so impressive what jerry jones has been able to do in fucking arlington texas yeah arlington all because of jerry like you it's all all points back to Jerry from whenever he took the team. They're just, yeah, whatever reason you say it, they tell you, hey, if you don't know

what to talk about, talk about the Cowboys. It always gets rated. We just did. We appreciate Dallas Cowboys being the most valuable franchise in professional sports. We appreciate everybody for watching. We can't thank you enough. Thanks to our guests today, huh? How about the mayor stop by? And the Thai conversation with the mayor about baseball was awesome

wasn't it AJ? I learned stuff for sure me too San Diego is about to go Judge betting on himself Patty the Batty stop by great conversation he looks comfortable enjoying his life he deserves it

and then Mike Greenberg the salary cap guru for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers was here we learned a little bit about the cash over cap game and the way they played it and kicking it down the road and he said yeah you're gonna have to do a reset at some point but then later in the interview he also said you can also continue to move it and uh do stuff like that's like which one is it mike greenberg which one he does does he do much does he do many like interviews no i don't think so. It was a great convo, though, man. Yeah. Learned a lot.

He actually talked about it with how the people around the league in his business never really get any love. Well, him being lead counsel as well is a big deal. Yeah. Yes, it is. He knows what they can spend. He knows how they're going to spend it. And he's the one negotiating how it's being spent.

Important job. They know right now is when we need to go. Because he said, what, six years ago. We also got a message, I guess, that Greenberg has asked for the clip of him being on

so he could show off to the other nerds. Boom. There it is. Exact quote. Thank you. Thank you to the salary cap nerd and lead counsel

of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Mike Greenberg, for joining us. We like diving into those weeds because those things are very important. Talks to the table, great work. Tone, great work.

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