The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 710 - Logan Paul, Feel The Beat With Matt "Money" Smith, Sal Capaccio, & Matt Schneidman, Plus Kyle Brandt, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: August 3, 2022

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat more about the Stephen Ross situation in Miami, and whether or not the NFL will appeal Judge Sue Robinson's decision to suspend Deshaun Watson for 6 games, and the opportunity he has to turn babyface for maybe the first and last time in his tenure as Commissioner. Joining the progrum is WWE Superstar, Boxer, and internet legend, Logan Paul, to chat about his career up until this point, when he started to realize what he was doing business wise, competing in the WWE and why it seems like he was always destined to do this, getting back in the boxing ring and who he might be facing next, and more (21:31-34:03). Later, for the second week in a row, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys feel the beat from around the NFL as they get reports from training camp from the Chargers with Matt "Money" Smith (52:04-1:02:28), Sal Capaccio from Bills camp (1:02:29-1:13:12), and Matt Schneidman from Packers camp (1:13:28-1:23:11). Later, co-host of Good Morning Football, electric factory and friend of the show, Kyle Brandt joins the progrum to chat about his new show with Omaha productions, his relationship with Jim Rome, what type of high school and college football player he was, how he continues to have the energy to do Good Morning Football that early in the morning, his workout regimen and whether he'd entertain doing "The Challenge" on MTV, and more (1:23:13-1:48:02). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show, and listen on Sirius XM Channel 82, Mad Dog Radio. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people, it is Feel the Beat, Wednesday, August 3rd, 2022, and this sports show begins with a speed drop from 20. Here we go, atta baby, here we go, we are a little bit of a rough start there for the first hour here on this Wednesday, August 3rd. We are just one day away from NFL football taking place, yes the Hall of Fame game is tomorrow night. And although we won't know any of the players playing in the actual game, and we will get a chance to kind of get a glimpse of what the new teams might look like, especially with Doug Peterson, Super Bowl winning head coach now in Jacksonville. Remember when they decided to pay Christian Kirk, who would not be playing tomorrow night in the Hall of Fame game.

That is kind of what offset this entire wide receiver market. Trevor Lawrence going into his second year. He's supposed to be a guy. Good news, he's not playing tomorrow night. Nobody we know will be playing tomorrow night, but we'll get a chance to see what these new coaches are putting into their new cultures. Obviously, Peterson and Jacksonville. Josh McDaniel is over in Las Vegas.

They've gone all in. All the players that you know of, they will not be playing tomorrow night. But we will get a chance to kind of see what is Josh McDaniel's Raiders team going to look like? What's the offense going to look like? We're hearing about what the new offense in New England is going to look like, and we're starting to see little wrinkles and ripples all around the NFL, but tomorrow night we'll learn little to nothing, but we'll

be excited that in NFL football, a Duke was kicked off in a game with lights on and cameras showcased. Hell yeah. That's right. Some other important notes on the day. Bill Belichick has talked about the tampering situation with the Dolphins,

as has Todd Bowles in the Buccaneers. The Dolphins have obviously addressed it, and Roger Goodell is going to be yelling at all the owners in Minnesota, either today or tomorrow, about the tampering situation that took place when Stephen Ross said, hey, Bob Kraft, fuck you. I'm sending my guy, Bruce Beal, vice president of this whole operation, the successor, allegedly, for the Miami Dolphins. I'm sending them directly into Tom Brady's DMs, and they're going to chit-chat about

Tom potentially becoming an owner of the Miami Dolphins while you just have him as Johnny Foxborough up there in New England, Rob. And then whenever he wasn't able to get the deal done because Tom Brady went down to Tampa Bay and had dinner, I believe, with the Tampa Bay Lightning owner, Bill Gates, I think, and Derek Jeter. That's right. Tampa Bay was able to win him over as soon as he signed back with Tampa and was training with Tampa. Steven Ross and Bruce Beal were like, hey, Tom, just know the offer's still on the table. Come own this.

So he said to the Glazer family in Tampa Bay, hey, fuck you. I'm going to try to get your quarterback to be an owner of my team and a player as well. So I guess Roger Goodell is going to have to handle that behind closed doors with all the owners. He was saying, remember, we're in this together. We're not trying to fuck each other over, Mr. Steven Ross,

man who came out and said, I made more money in one F1 race than all the NFL. So now you're putting us down over F1. You're trying to pluck other people's players. Hey, Stephen Ross, I understand that Roger Goodell and the NFL decided to suspend you for six games, take a first, take a third, and fine you $1.5 million. We want to let you know your vote ain't worth a fuck in here anymore. The next 10 years, any vote we were a part of, guess who you're voting with? Whatever the majority is.

Is that what's happening? Because how do you really punish him even more? The $1.5 million with his $8.2 billion net worth is absolutely nothing. Him being suspended for six games, not being able to go into his suite. I assume he has a yacht that's right outside. I think they'll have service. I'm not sure if you can get internet onto

a yacht these days. Dan Snyder said his couldn't because he couldn't zoom into the house oversight committee. But if this motherfucker's out on a yacht just watching the game for six games, is he that upset? We're not sure. The first rounder that was being forfeited next year,

they already have another one. And then the third rounder in the future, who gives a fuck? Draft picks could be very easy to get as long as more GMs that are like less need in LA continue to come in the NFL. We're like, fuck these picks. Really, the punishment doesn't seem like it's real at all. Unless there's more to the story that we're not going to hear about because it feels like a billionaire's problem. Not really ours. Follow up from the Deshaun Watson.

Suspension. Six games. Obviously, everybody on earth thought it was going to be a lot more, except for maybe the Deshaun Watson camp. Judge Shu L. Robinson, the first time she's ever ruled on anything regarding the NFL and the new process in which an independent judge will make a ruling, and then ultimately, Roger Goodell's still the Supreme Court judge. That's right. This happened because the players were sick of Roger Goodell being the judge, jury, and executioner for every single decision.

New CBA comes around. They have to figure out a way to negotiate a real punishment process for when something either goes wrong on the field or off the field. So what they came to agreement upon was the Honorable Judge Sue L. Robinson. Former federal judge who retired in 2017 was ready to get the gavel back in the hand. Oh yeah, for sure. The NFL and the NFLPA brought her, and this is the first time we are watching her process, which was created for her because players were upset about how much power Roger Goodell had,

kind of come into play. The NFL now has until tomorrow morning at 8 a.m. to basically appeal Judge Shue Robinson's ruling of the six-game suspension for Deshaun Watson, and this is a pivotal point in this entire thing. Because if the NFL does appeal it, and they say, hey, Judge Sue Robinson, it's your first time here, you're fucking wrong.

Sorry, Sue. Publicly, and to all the players in the NFL locker rooms, and we're not saying that we don't think what Deshaun was accused of isn't terrible. We all agree that it's terrible. Will the truth come out about what how it all feels like we got a lot of similar stories from a lot of people from all over the country uh feels like there was a lot of um you know narratives that you know Kyle Brandt said this he'll be joining us today he said this on Good Morning Football said, unless the conspiracy that you believe is that these 30, 60 some, I guess, 30 some women came

together with very similar stories, all found one lawyer for the lawsuit against Deshaun Watson because they viewed Deshaun Watson as a potential, hey, we can get this person. If you believe that conspiracy, okay, I can see that you think that the world is filled with just incredibly intelligent mastermind type people that can take advantage of people. Now, you're giving a lot of credit to a lot of people, but I understand why you could view that because technically that could have happened. Now, it sounds like all the stories are similar. So we feel like we kind of have a sense of what's going on. But whenever the Texas grand jury doesn't indict him when judge shu robinson said it wasn't violent at all i think there is also people that start piecing together what it could

have happened like and in all of our brains we all have an iteration of what happened between deshaun and this entire situation and pretty similar but there's probably variants there's people that are that probably assume every word that the uh accuser said was true there's probably some people out there that believe Deshaun Watson. He wasn't indicted in this six things. Judge Sue Robinson said he wasn't. They're probably out there. And then I think a large majority of us are just kind of in the middle where we've been

like, yeah, we assume this. We assume some of this. This probably took place. Definitely creepy. Somehow this couldn't happen. They ended up settling. So it feels like everybody's going to be able to move on with their life. We kind of have that.

I feel that the NFL is going to say we do appeal just strictly because of public narrative. And also, Sue, this is your first time in the NFL. And in the report, Sue said, trying to shift a dynamic shift in the culture of the NFL while feeling as if they haven't given fair enough of a heads up to players as well. So they're trying to shift the culture, trying to shift the process, trying to shift everything, and they're trying to set a new precedent with this new independent judge and ruler. So if Roger Goodell and the NFL appeal, you could say it sounds like they're cutting this entire process out at the knee,

saying, hey, listen, you do what you do. still roger goodell's world we still do this i think what the nfl will do is this i think the nfl will appeal it i think roger goodell will inevitably give him more games i don't think deshaun will sue him because i think if deshaun sues him that opens up the entire case and it has to go to outside courts not just through robinson's nfl court that would go somewhere now would they make that court public like we saw Johnny Depp and Amber Heard? Or would it make it private? We won't hear anything. I assume the first, not the second.

Who knows what side's going to do what. But if the NFL comes back and says no 10 games and then Deshaun sues them, then it's held up in appeals courts and he could play this entire season basically. And then the suspension potentially comes the year after like what happened with Tom Brady and the New England Patriots. I think the NFL is going to come back with let's say a couple more games, like 10. Let's say Roger Goodell says

10 games. And this, maybe he has Judge Sue Robinson up there with him while he's giving this. And he says, I appreciate all of her hard work. I appreciate the voluminous amount of research reading what they said in the report and everything like that. But we are both trying to set a new precedent with this new process.

With this type of manner, we feel 10 games is the proper amount. Judge Sue Robinson's power will still remain very powerful and go on and basically not bury the new process, but also get a good sense of what the Internet said immediately upon the ruling coming and what the world said and everything like that, which people say the NFL does. They check reactions to on how they're going to go. So I think it's going to end up being more games for Roger Goodell. I think he's going to try to put over the new process.

I don't think he's going to bury the process at all. This is what I'm assuming is going to happen. I don't think Deshaun's going to sue. I think it's just going to be a, hey, let's move on. Bygones be bygones situation. And then seven games still, most meaningful football games Deshaun's able to play. The NFL looks baby face. And the Judge Sue Robinson process still holds a little bit of power. That feels like it's a potential, but we won't know until 8 a.m. tomorrow morning on whether or not the NFL appeals

the ruling of six games at tone dicks. 100% agree with everything you said. One question, though. Is it 100% Deshaun's decision on whether he sues or not, or does the NFLPA have a say in that as well? I'd assume it's ultimately in the end, I think, it's probably going to be Deshaun and his people. The NFLPA probably pushed for it, right?

Hey, these are our options. We could do this. We could do this. We could do this. But it feels, because the NFL is in quite a bind here, too. Oh, yeah, definitely. Because the NFL has to go yell at all the owners about, you know, hey, trying to fuck each other over. Dan Snyder on a Zoom call from whatever Napoleon's Island is into this thing.

He allegedly is playing shell game with money with the other owners. Steven Ross is calling owners saying, Hey, listen, uh, or not calling errors, basically calling players that are on other teams and saying, Hey,

come on, fuck these guys. You should be appearing with Robert Kraft, not working for Robert Kraft. What are you even doing? Like they have a lot to settle themselves. A good baby face for all of them would be, yeah,

we should, we should change the ruling on what happened to Deshaun. And maybe they even changed the Stephen Ross ruling too. I mean, who knows what's going to take place with it all. But the six-game thing, setting the precedent for this whole new process, in this case being the precedent setter, puts them all in quite a pickle. And I think they're really trying to figure it out, even though they've got big old brains.

Talks at the table, I pass it. Connor, I tie Schmidt connor at thy schmick on yeah i mean sorry no go ahead i mean i just don't think they're going to do it strictly because it just carries it on and then what next week or the week after we get the camara and then after that the snyder thing doesn't seem to be anywhere near done i don't know if we're going to hear anything about the snyder thing strictly because if he spoke for 11 hours at this point we might have heard something so you think roger goodell going hands off hey judge shu robinson yeah trust the process well that's why we got her yeah exactly she's for no shit my dad was a judge my dad was a federal judge i was not a fucking federal judge what do you want me she did you read all i didn't read it all you know why i didn't fucking have to

that's why we have her. She said six games. We are moving on. Case dismissed. What if he has a gavel? Exactly. What if he actually has a gavel and goes, case dismissed. Let's move this thing on.

I don't know. That would be them missing an opportunity to potentially turn babyface. Yeah. And I think you're right. When you look at the public perception, they know how people have reacted to this. Six games, almost unanimously. And then maybe it's one of those things where they want to turn babyface, but have they almost already shot themselves in the foot where they give them six,

and now if they go up to ten, would people kind of be like, okay, the NFL is trying to do it here, or would it just be the same? This is bullshit. It should be a season. It's almost like they pin themselves in a corner and now it really matters. And you're saying that continues to extend the conversation. It keeps it in. And let's say maybe Deshaun doesn't sue.

What if he does and then he's playing week one? Is that going to be even worse? No, we can dive even deeper there because Deshaun would want to miss his games this year, not next year, because his salary this year is $1 million. His salary next year is whatever. So aside from the discovery and how you know the court who knows because that'd be an open court how that would all go in the whole thing and how much everybody would learn and remember deshaun from the very beginning did not want a um nda and he wanted to be able to talk about this that was

like months and months and months and months ago so i'm not saying that tashawn has ever uh not been like hey i don't want anybody to find out about any of this allegedly was the complete opposite right allegedly there was um almost agreements were made but they couldn't come to they had a number that was part of the settlement right the settlement part that he couldn't agree with was the nda right he did not want to be muzzled he would like to be able to talk about it and then it allegedly fell apart yes and that was with now they're they've settled with 23 of the 24 who knows what's going on with the one like if what if that one goes to court we could be visiting oh yeah this whole thing yeah again i mean this absolutely the nfl i mean we're getting close to season and you know

there's some outstanding things to talk about and by outstanding i don't mean good i mean like not finished yet. And it feels like this Deshaun Watson case could come to a closure. Or by 8 a.m. tomorrow morning, they extended a couple more days, turned babyface, and that's all she wrote. What if he says, 7.30 a.m. press conference tomorrow morning, Roger Goodell from his plane. We appeal, and we also suspend him four more games.

All right, we just lost internet, sorry. And then they just wait until the reaction. Who's making the decision to appeal? Roger Goodell. Yeah. Who's deciding what the punishment is off of the appeal? Roger Goodell. Right.

So if he doesn't want to waste any time he can literally same and we have chosen to appeal and we've thought about it we're actually going to suspend him for more games that's what the nfl thinks right we think sue see you later we're moving on now if he was to be suspended 10 games not by the way we have no fucking idea no idea because the more we talk about it the more i get conflicted on which way they'll go. Because does Roger Goodell just want to say, hands off, this is why we got this? It wasn't my decision. This was Sue's decision. The NFL and the NFLPA agreed on this, that this is how this is going to be.

This is not me. This is for – and if I was to change it, this would set the precedent for everything. Let her make her own ruling. My ruling has nothing to do with that. And he's just hands off, and it's over, and you move on. But Goodell, he has to the opportunity to go baby there is an opportunity to be here that he probably will never get again people hate his guts like everything he does booze booed everywhere he goes unless he has the volunteer

firefighters cops cops with the kids military with him which you'll never see him in public without except for at the draft and at at the draft, it's an overwhelming – Cacophonous amount of booze. Yeah, because he's had to rule against everybody's favorite team. Right. Anytime he is talking, it's normally not something great happening to your favorite anything. He is representative of 31 billionaires, so it's not even really –

he is just – and he makes $60 million a year. Yeah. So, I mean, he is a heel. For sure. Roger Goodell is a heel just probably as a human. I mean, we see he sits on his leather chairs. He eats his peanut M&Ms. Right.

Normal guy. Probably drinks beers if we ever get a chance. NFL football. Has to go watch his NFL football. College can't spend it. Sorry. Sorry about that. I'm busy on Saturday.

Maybe on Tuesday. Probably as a human. If you were in his friend group, you'd probably say, Roger's a normal guy. Yeah. Roger'm busy on Saturday. Probably as a human, if you were in his friend group, you'd probably say, Rod's just a normal guy. Rod plays cards with us. He does that whole thing. And then everybody outside is like, oh, yeah, well, he fucking suspended my favorite player 40 games for blah, blah, blah.

For nothing. Oh, he took this away from my team. He chose to do this. He put our team in this. He did that. And those are always going to outweigh emotionally any of the positive things so by trade you are going to be hated if you're a commissioner of a league so maybe goodell doesn't even maybe it's bad for the gimmick if he was to come out here maybe it would be bad for the gimmick if he was come out here and turn baby this opportunity is

sitting here yeah for roger goodell somebody else made a decision that nobody's happy about that he could supersede very publicly it's like does he want to do it or not we find out by him yeah and it feels like i mean i completely agree there definitely is this baby face you know turn that he could do easily but don't you think in two weeks when the snyder thing comes out and he says you know what dan snyder you're out i will not stand for this this is my face turn you're saying exactly he. He goes back. That's his baby face move. Like, hey, you know what? The people were pissed about Deshaun. I'm not going to do anything

for Dan aside from kick him out of the league. This is only on me. For those that don't watch wrestling, baby face is good guy. He is bad guy. People make turns from bad guy to good guy in a smooth one punch or one kick. It all happens. The most famous one, I hulk hogan

that whole nwo moment obviously because he was the biggest good guy of all time then he turned bad started spray painting his beard on right that is a uh baby face to heel turn heels can become baby face same exact in the opposite fashion bad guy takes out other bad guy in the name of good guy all of a sudden guess what bad guy is good guy bad guy bad guy's out yeah bad guy in the name of good guy. All of a sudden, guess what? Bad guy is good guy. Bad guy. Bad guy's out. Yeah, you're a baby face. Like, this is just like storytelling.

What if he does full baby face turn? Deshaun Watson thing. He adds on more to Stephen Ross. Publicly says that. Snyder from the thing. You're out. See you later. He starts donating all of his salaries to things.

Like, I'm donating 50 million of this yeah what if roger goodell goes on the most epic baby face turn in the history of storytelling that would be remarkable but it's not gonna take place no no way that's a he's healed two weeks from now oh yeah maybe even two days from now well and the owners are probably like yeah you want to be baby face everybody loves Roger. We need everybody to hate your fucking guts so you don't do a damn thing. You go out there, you shut your mouth, and you eat shit for the remainder of this year. Hey, Roger, you fucking like what you're doing right now? Yeah.

Signing autographs, kissing babies, taking pictures. That's what I'm supposed to be fucking doing. You're supposed to be fucking getting booed and yelled out of buildings. People throwing batteries at you? Good, because you know why? I'm walking right over to those batteries and they're clapping for me i'm the one telling you to say these terrible things i don't give a fuck this is you bub you're a bad guy so you go out there and you say judge shue robinson great lady big brain and move the fuck on yeah for

stephen ross you give him no votes next 10 years for dan snyder you tell that motherfucker he owes us all hundreds of millions of dollars for what he has done, and let's move the fuck on, you piece of shit. Remember, you are a piece of shit. What if that is happening? It's possible. I feel like that is possible. That really could be happening right now with Roger Goodell.

Yeah. And the Dan Snyder thing, like Jerry Jones, if Dan Snyder was withholding money from other owners, I think Jerry wouldn't be that upset if Roger Goodell decided to get Dan Snyder the hell out of here, especially because of him and the Papa John alleged meeting about Papa. This is the most division we have ever seen amongst the owners of the NFL. By far.

The most. Honestly, this is a big deal what's happening right now. This whole tampering thing yeah that they are never going to talk about again the nfl will make sure that this tampering thing everybody thought that we were doing um the tampering conversation to avoid the deshaun watson conversation yesterday and we were the puppets of the goddamn nfl or whatever you know what i mean do you remember when people were saying that oh yeah they are going to want this tampering thing to go away as quick as possible.

Oh, definitely. I mean, we do not talk about this ever again. There's going to be heated words, we assume, in a meeting today, and whether it's on a Zoom or in person in Minnesota, allegedly, is where this meeting is going to get. But they are going to try to put this to bed and move on publicly as fast as possible, unless our guy Mark Davis comes out. Yeah. With his backpack.

Starter jacket on, backpack, little flat bill. Yep, he's a game boy. We're not happy with Steve Ross. Nobody is. And then just walks off. That's the only time we've ever heard any type of division from the NFL owners. It seems to be happening now at a rapid rate. And there's new owners in there.

So is there a shift in dynamics in the ownership of the NFL, and what does that mean for everybody? What if Walton, first owner's meeting, just comes in and big dicks everybody? Like, you know what? I got the most money here. My vote matters more than everybody else's. And what do they say? Because, like, did this happen with that?

That's not going to happen. Yeah, I don't think so. They're all billionaires. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how those old school business guys get business done, but I think there's a little bit of – I think it's going to be tough just going in and walking. Jerry Jones would leave a handprint on Rob Walton's face

if he walked in there and started acting like that. I can't get up right now, but fucking walk right over here, please. Run your face into my hand. All right. Thank you. All right. Go sit down. Now, Kraft's going to do the same.

Kraft, please. Go on, Bob. You know how Bob gets down, too. He'll smack the shit out of you, and he'll kiss you right on the cheek, too. Why don't you wear a pair of Kraft? It's a wild time in the NFL, and training camp's happening. Joining us now, this is awesome. I'm excited.

This is the first time. Yeah, here we go. I've been a fan of this human for a long time, because obviously he and his brother are absolute trailblazers. Now, the name itself, his last name itself, is strictly polarizing immediately upon hearing it because you might have caught up with him at one segment of his life and you didn't love him. He's been famous forever. He's one of the

smartest business people I've ever seen on the internet. And now, he is a legitimate rock star, WWE superstar. Built for it, made for it, host of Impulsive, co-founder of Prime. Hydrate?

Hydrate. Delicious, by the way. Good stuff. Official drink of the fucking Arsenal soccer team. No big deal. Wow. Yeah. Premier League.

No shit, this guy. Yeah, fucking big brain, incredibly handsome. Ladies and gentlemen, Logan Paul. Wow. What's up, dude? Wow. I just got a standing ovation. Pat, you have so much energy.

That was such a good intro. Thank you. I'm honored to be here, man. I'm a huge fan. I love what you're doing. Logan, I don't need to hear that, okay? You're the guy around here. We all know and I appreciate you. Where are you right now? What are you doing? You training again right now? Yeah, dog. So that's why I'm late. I was sparring. I'm a boxer now again. Okay. You getting back in the ring or is this just for workout? Yeah, we're getting back in the ring. We're going to go from professional sport to professional sport. I want to get a fight in December. Who?

We'll see. I have some people in mind, but I can't say, Pat, you only get one first impression. That's part of my, I think, ability to make moments. I like making first impressions big, so I want to keep it a secret until we're ready. Okay. Well, I think, ability to make moments. And I like making first impressions big. And so I want to keep it a secret until we're ready. Okay. Well, I'm excited. I didn't know if I had missed something and you had already announced it. I felt like a jackass.

So I'm happy I didn't miss an announcement. Hey, let's go. Here we go. Let's fucking go. Let's go. Good luck out there. Good luck with training. The WWE has been something that you've taken to like a fish to water obviously at

wrestlemania when you were ms were tag team partners and then just the other day at summer slam you killed it are you training full time is it like all right i'm boxing for a little bit then i'm wrestling for a little bit you looked unbelievable hey you flew i mean the dive so it was insane you're you're you're are you a tip-top shape right now, or are you training boxing, wrestling every single day, Logan? So I cater my body, because I consider my body like my armor. Here we go. And its ability to do certain things depends on what sport I'm doing.

So I cater my body to wrestling this time. I focused on explosion, because I knew that jump was going to be long. And by the way, I've been begging to get aerial. I love to soar, dude. I feel so comfortable in the air. And like WWE let me go this time. So a lot of big jumps, a lot of big slams. And I'm 27.

And I'm working out like a fucking machine. My body is equipped because I'm young and strong to take these kind of falls. Like, bro, I wasn't even sore the next day at all. Like, I couldn't have been more healthy and prepared for this. Good for you, by the way. I cannot believe that's me. Well, and then also you hit the frog splash like form in the air. So not only are you diving and you're not just like scared you're not going to make it or scared you're not going to hit there.

You actually had perfect form and at the end exploded through it. It was glorious, Logan. It was a fucking moment. Hey, this will live forever, Logan. This is going to live forever, this moment. Thanks, man. I hope so, man. I thoroughly enjoy creating moments that I'll remember forever, but it's much more important to me that I create moments that people watching will remember forever.

Like when I watched that clip back, I watched the fans, you know, I, I want for sure. I watched me a couple of times, but I watched the reactions, man. And to see the WWE fandom, which as you know, is one of the most powerful fandoms in the world. You know, it's, it really is a family and a universe. To see them go from either not knowing or extreme dislike at the beginning of that match for me to by the end, they're counting with me, you know, hands in the air, taking pictures, phones out.

Like, dude, you can't write this. Like, I can't believe this is my life, and I'm so blessed and thankful. Well, you put on a hell of a performance, and I think your read on that entire thing is an accurate one. Cause that's what I was doing. As I was watching, I was watching it in the back and, uh, I'm looking, I'm listening to the fans because you know it your entire life, right? People just hated you regardless because of a decision. Cause you've been famous now since you were how old, old is it as uh when did you start becoming like a notable human yeah i was 18 so i kind of knew who i was but not at all like you know i knew i was

a young adult that wanted to do big things but i you know i didn't find myself till i was 25 man and you're right like my whole life has been on camera and that comes with amazing blessings and you know sometimes even greater consequences but i have no problem earning respect you know like i think that's how respect should be given like i'm fully prepared to to show the wwe universe just how capable and dedicated i am to this sport i think i think commitment is all that the WWE fans care about. And I think the things that you accomplish in that ring, like, takes a lot of commitment to get to that point. Jumping through the sky, willing to risk your body

while flying to the commentary table, like, I think the WWE universe, like, actual wrestling fans, marks, if you will, were like, damn, this dude was willing to do this for our entertainment like you saying respect was earned i think you 100 got that from the wwe folks when did you know wwe was going to be a thing when you were growing up did you assume you're athletic you wrestled right no hell no no hell no why not why not it feels like a match made in heaven logan that's i i'm not gonna lie i've been asking myself the same thing because when I think about it,

man, almost everything I've done my entire life has been building up to me performing for the WWE. Like the stunts, the showmanship, the kind of like young punk attitude. The hate, the love, the cheers. Yes. Everything. As a career path, I guess I never considered it and now it makes so much sense. After WrestleMania, which by the way,

I told you after your match at SummerSlam, I love watching you perform. You always surprise me, man. Don't take offense to this, but you're actually crazy athletic. Thanks, Logan. You too, man. You're, you're, don't take offense to this, but you're actually crazy athletic. Oh, thanks. Thanks, Logan. I appreciate you too, man. But like, I think people look at me and they expect me to be athletic. No offense, Pat, but like, you know, you're a planter. Like, I don't know. I don't expect you to fucking

do a backflip off the top rope, land and jump back up on the top rope. I understand. I understand. And I smoke a lot too. I mean, there's a lot of things I do that, like, yeah, I, I've, I'm a hundred percent 100% okay with what you just said, but I appreciate that. And you actually came up to me after SummerSlam, and you said, hey, man, I stuck around. Like, I appreciate you a lot because I'm a big fan, but let's get back to kind of your journey here to becoming a WWE superstar. Obviously, being famous since you were 18 and becoming a businessman is something that just kind of gets forced on your throat. Were you ready for the business that kind of showed up? Because, hey, man, you are fucking, hey, we're talking like, and I'm going to pat myself on the back here.

On this screen, like 20 years from now, people are going to say, oh, there's two billionaires that were chatting to each other. You know, like that's probably, that's going to happen. And you and your brother have had that mindset for a fucking long time. Did you know that? Do you watch Shark Tank? You're like, that's how you do business. How, how do you kind of handle all that type of shit as well? It's a, it's a great question. So I have not always been a business savvy. In fact, this only, this only happened me thinking about, uh, the longevity of my, my career and, and my livelihood in the past man three years like before 24 i promise you while i made money i didn't give a shit about business man all i

cared about was creating and now i don't know what it is as an adult i i'm able to work a little smarter you know and and at you know pre-23 i think it's really hard to see what 30 looks like or 35. I'm a kid with money and fame. I don't even know if I'm going to make it at that point. Honestly, bro, the shit I was doing, I wasn't even sure how long I was going to live. Now I'm 27. I'm like, okay, life is good. I kind of want to prolong this for as much as I can.

I want to have a family. I want to do good for the world. long this for as much as I can. I want to have a family, you know, I want to, I want to do good for the world. And so I'm able to work smarter and use the platform that I spent my early twenties building to leverage really smart business with, with, you know, good product, great partners. And most importantly, I think great marketing. Well, prime hydra, by the way, marketing's everything, you know, that is why, I mean, every rich person knows that as well. Prime hydra sounds to be, uh, sounds like it's killing congrats on that uh thank you how did how did that come to be you're just you're in the lab hey hey listen i want a little

better tasting a little bit more healthy how do i how's this yeah so so i think i think this uh this conversation is significant because you know every influencer and their brother mother sister family member starts uh some sort of product some sort of business. A lot of them, Logan. I've done that too. Yeah. But Prime is the one. I can say with absolute and the utmost confidence, Prime is the one we created a better for you, better tasting hydration beverage.

We saw a gap in the market where Gatorade is a legacy brand, but it's also archaic and not good for you. So what if we made something that tasted better and had literally a six of the calories with two grams of sugar? We did it. We made an amazing product. I partnered with my ex-rival, now business partner, KSI, and that story writes itself. So I have great partners, great marketing because it's built in with us, and most importantly, great product.

I saw you grab the bottle after the SummerSlam match, man. I was pretty pumped up about that. You need to get some of those on the commentary table, man. Let me go ahead and charge some of that. I'll supply you guys with prime. Give me your address, man. I'll send you a palette. Alright, man. Nine. You've dealt with Triple H

mostly in your WWE relationship. I saw he was on Impulsive. Great interview. I also saw Nick Kahn and Sonny in there. But how's Triple H? What has he meant to you? khan and sunny in there uh but how's triple h what has he meant to you and is he your you know kind of i don't say mentor in this entire wwe thing but is he the one you would view as the guy you go to for every question you have man he's no offense to triple h but this is not offensive at all but i truly feel like everyone at the wwe the higher ups all give me equal time attention

and energy you know like yes yes he's helped me backstage yes we've uh texted about certain moves or or the audience or you know he gives me plenty of advice but so does steph so does nick um so does kevin uh you know miz helped me a lot too. Like I've never, I've never felt more, more like accepted as a, as an employee. They were like, I worked for the WWE. Yeah. Yeah. They get you. Right. Doesn't it feel like that when I went over there, it feels like the world they're hustlers, right? They're, they're business people, they're creators. They put on these massive shows and they've been doing it for like 30 years, 40 years. It's like, who better to been doing it for like 30 years, 40 years.

It's like who better to learn from on those, you know, Logan? They're so good, man. It is a well-organized machine, and I am continually surprised by how much they can do effectively, too. Like some of the shit they pull off is unreal, man. I mean, Titan, 48,000 people that are watching you fucking fly through the sky. We're talking to Logan Paul. Logan, last question here before we let you go. Can't thank you enough for joining. How many people on your team down there?

How many people on your team down there? When you're sparring, are you actually getting punched in the face on a daily basis? Oh yeah, baby. We just sparred some world champs just now. That's why I'm late, man. I was three minutes late. My assistant called. She's like, he's got an interview! You actually thought? Yeah, I'm fucking sweating. My mouthpiece is in my shorts, bro. I'm late, man. I was three minutes late. My assistant called. She's like, he's got an interview. You actually thought you were fucking sweating my mouthpieces and my shorts, bro. Like, I'm drink prime. I got, I got, I'm skinny, bro.

I run skinny. I'm the opposite of my brother. I don't know if you chatted with him yet, but my man has a full-on posse, 10, 15 people. I got three. Videographer, coach, chef, girlfriend. Four. I saw Mike. I saw Mike's big ass down there. It was my first time. No, Mike's my girl. That's the girl. All right. Well. I saw Mike. I saw Mike's big ass dinner.

It was my first time. No, Mike's my girl. That's the girl. All right. Well, take care of your girl. Take care of your family. Take care of your mentals, man. You're doing a lot for a lot of people. We watch you.

Obviously, continue to do your thing, and we appreciate the hell out of you, man. Love you, Pat. Love you, Team Pat. Thank you, guys. I'll see you soon, all right? Yeah. Logan Paul. Thank you, baby.

Yeah, Logan! Here we go, baby. guys. I'll see you soon. Yeah. Logan Paul. Thank you. Welcome back to the show. It is a joyful occasion, obviously this Wednesday, because we are one day away from being able to say that NFL football is happening today. Tomorrow night, the hall of fame game where the Raiders will take on the Jaguars

in players that we have no idea have ever existed will battle in NFL uniforms on an NFL broadcast right now. The line has changed again. The Jacksonville Jaguars are getting two and a half points in Canton, Ohio as they take

on Jared Stodham, Nick Mullins, and some random guy that will be selling insurance just a couple months from right now in the Raiders at minus 2.5. Kyle Slaughter. Over under 30.5. Jacksonville Jaguars will obviously feature Jake Lutton, Kyle Swar, and Drake from State Farm getting a couple touches at running back

for the Jacksonville Jaguars tomorrow. Over under 30.5 points. Everybody seems to think that the under is a solid bet in a Hall of Fame game, but this one might get a little bit slicey and dicey out there with Doug Peterson and McDaniels, two offensive-minded head coaches,

trying to implement a new culture. I like the over at 30.5. Even though while watching the game, I am going to think to myself, new culture. I like the over at 30 and a half. Even though while watching the game, I am going to think to myself, new season, same dumb fucking brain. Why would I ever bet the over on this game? But I'm coming out swinging on this brand new season of the NFL.

I was originally thinking Raiders in the under, but you know what? I was thinking Kyle Slaughter. He's a USFL guy. So he has recently, like in the last month, been under live fire with guys that are going to be on the field Thursday night. Same

exact talent level. He is going to be in his comfort zone. Look for Slaughter to throw for maybe $350, $400. Okay, so Slaughter with a Tud. I don't know if that's a bet on Fando. They're going to have to dive deep into the roster to get some props here on Fando for this Hall of Fame game. We like Slaughter to throw a Tud, and we like the

fucking over. I like the over. I think I do too. I think you're right. Two new head coaches. These guys, maybe they do. It's like, hey, let's try to fucking... Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Talks to the table, I touch my dad, boss at Connor Town, digs one half of the hammer. Cowboys, great gamblers on the internet. Joining us now is a man who might know a little

bit better than both of us. A man who's a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup champion, COVID survivor. Holy shit. Three times? Well, I don't know how many times. Not three times in his last week or two. It's being reported the president has COVID-19 again.

Get well soon, Joe. Of the United States? This guy is, what, 70-something years old. He's about to be COVID for the sixth time? Shout out. Wear a mask, Joe. I get COVID every other day. I think he is wearing them.

That comes into the conversation. Is he just telling people that you can wear masks? Three times in 11 days. You can wear fucking masks. Go back to bed, Joe. Go back to bed, Joe. Jeez. Wee.

Chuck a chip, chuck a chip. That is what happened right before we came onto the air there in the second hour, which carried into the on-air shenanigans that you heard early. There's a lot of wonderings on how this potentially happens. Yeah. For what the most protected person probably, if that's happening, like what else else and should we get more of a heads up on what the deal is you know because kyler's out for five days pete carroll's out for five days there's other people out for five days that are in the prime shape of their life cannot go to camp

with no symptoms but potentially a president i don't know if he's in prime shape of his life or not three days still operating at a high level what's going why are we still having anything who knows maybe there's different strands still may we hope everybody survives that's right what I'm sure if it's life or not, three days still operating at a high level. What's going on? Why are we still having anything? Who knows? Maybe there's different strands still. We hope everybody survives. What happened to the 90-day period after you tested positive? Thought you don't get it for 90 days, no matter what. Well, so that would be the antibody conversation.

I don't know if we're equipped to have that one either. So we will move on. Joining us now is a COVID survivor who may or may not have the antibodies, if the antibodies even exist now. We do not know what the rules are on anything other than this show is the dumbest every day and we are continuing to prove that rule to be true ladies and gentlemen aj hawk aj you got the antibodies you got the antibodies yeah maybe we'll see i don't know i need to take a test right but what a what a great great. Con man telling the president to go back to bed.

Tone is getting a little worked up. I like it. AJ, listen. This show has been rather awful today. You hear me? Logan Paul came on and we were very lucky to talk to him. He was a great conversation. He's got done sparring and boxing. His drink prime hydrate

is taking over the globe in its genre, in its marketplace marketplace and he's really accomplishing thing and then i look around at what we're doing today and i'll tell you what two different paths that's right us and logan paul to restart practice today uh you period one fucking run the opener please run in no i'm joking please do not please do not let's dive into it uh the nfl has until tomorrow morning at 8 a.m to appeal appeal Deshaun Watson's ruling from Judge Sue Robinson. And AJ, I don't want to talk about the same thing every single day, but hey, that's been the last four months of this show, basically, because there seems to be little crumbs that come

out daily for us to continue to expand our convo about it. But we are torn. I came into the show thinking and assuming that Roger Goodell would make a baby face turn here. He would take this opportunity where somebody else made a ruling that he did not. And he saw the reaction from basically every human, including Browns fans, including Browns fans reactions that are like, this is not enough. He could come out with the way the process is and say, we're trying to set a new precedent here with Judge Hugh Robinson. But we cannot allow this to be the first ruling and Judge Hugh Robinson and myself have agreed okay 10 games is good

boom that's going to be the suspension he's babyface for everybody will Deshaun sue it and hold this up in appeals he's only making a million contract next year if he holds this up in appeals for a year and he plays that next year I think it's like 40 some million dollars he potentially misses if it's like the Tom Brady deflategate year suspension delay until the next season. Or do you think Goodell goes, I didn't fucking make the ruling.

I don't want to make the ruling. I'm not reading all that shit. We are sticking with six games and we are moving on. I've got to go tell the owners to stop fucking each other over after what Stephenven ross just did to craft in the glazer family and snyder was shell gaming money to all of us so judge sue robinson read thousands and thousands of pages of shit i'm not we move on there's he both ways in my head are feasible i think don't you yeah it's definitely possible but i i don't think he ends up appealing this i just think they don't want to do this the very very first ruling she ever has, he doesn't want to have to step in

and do what the reason that she is there is because people don't want him having full and complete control. So if he jumps in and snatches control from her right away on their first decision, what does it say for the future? Yeah, see, I think he could end his promo. I think he could protect. I think he could protect that process still in his rollout of it all. He wants it to be over, though.

He wants it over just like Deshaun wants it over. They all need it to not be talked about every single day. Let's look at the Browns' schedule here real quick because currently he's out for six games. Jacoby Brissett will be the starter for the first six. It's Panthers, Jets, Steelers, Falcons, Chargers. Okay, so Chargers obviously a team. Mariota, by the way, I heard is lighting it up.

I heard Mariota is having a good training camp down in Atlanta. Shocker. We will have to feel the beat sometime with somebody in Atlanta maybe next week or the next time we do this because that is a team that nobody has talked about. No. At all. Mariota gets signed down there and nobody fucking even talks about it because they didn't get to Sean Watson

who they were in on. Remember, Mariota, in relief of Derek Carr, when we thought his groin actually popped out of his body on Thursday Night Football, came in and threw for a couple of tuds. Darren Waller lit it up.

Rushed for several as well. Yeah, he was all the way back. He just started for the Titans whenever they were in playoff contention and then he, you know, Tannehill takes over. He goes to a new home. Who knows what that team's going to look like?

So we can't just say, hey, the Falcons are going to be a problem for the Browns, but they might be. Steelers, they always are a challenger. Browns know the teams in and out. Both sides do. That defense is going to be a problem for anybody, even if Deshaun was playing. Will the Steelers' offense by week three have any resemblance of a team that can fucking move on that Browns' defense?

Probably not. So that's going to be a low score. That'll be a 9-6 one. Yeah, that's going to be an ugly game. Jets game, we have no idea. We assume the Browns will be able to win that with their roster. Panthers game is going to be difficult, right? I mean, that's Cleveland at Carolina, Baker's new home.

All signs out of Carolina Panthers camp are that Baker's probably starting that thing and Matt Corral also a guy. That's what people are saying down in Carolina. Baker probably and Matt Corral also a guy. That's what people are saying down in Carolina. Baker probably starting. Corral is a guy. Diggs wanted Corral to be a stealer because he's a blue-collar guy. He actually punched Gretzky's kid or grandson. Kid.

Kid in the face. Got kicked out of some prep school. Had to go to some public school. Ends up at Ole Miss. Tatted up like. What's up? Dog. We would like to be friends. Yeah, I think he's a dog Miss, tatted up like, what's up? Dog. We would like to be friends.

Yeah, I think he's a dog. Super quick release, too, though, on Corral. I like watching him throw the ball. They say he's got. And Lane Kiffin's offense is not easy, so I assume he came into the NFL pretty equipped. But those first six games, Patriots also at the end of that, you know, with that roster, should split it.

Yeah, absolutely. Should go three and three, right? yeah absolutely should go three and three right and if you go three and three with your backup quarterback while a 230 million dollar quarterback is not able to play that's a good spot for the Browns and then now they got games that matter going down the stretch 11 games going through I don't think the Browns are really that deeply affected by this AJ no they shouldn't they shouldn't be too worried I mean they should honestly be better than three and three if you look at it. I mean, the first four games, there's definitely quarterback questions. We know Zach Wilson's the only one, only quarterback returning to the lineup, I guess,

for his team in those first four. We'll see if his offseason workouts tend to give him success on the field. I don't know. But everywhere else, they have a new guy basically coming in trying to take the helm. Yeah, but Chargers are going to be tough. Oh, that's what I'm saying. The first four, then those last two, you're on your own, guys. Oh, yeah, you're thinking Carolina, Jets, Steelers, Falcons. I was strictly just giving Carolina the edge because Baker's going to be on 1,000. Emotional game.

I'm thinking Miles Garrett and that defense, though, getting after Miles. And Chubb and Hunt. Why the fuck am I even worrying about the energy of the Carolina Panthers? Yeah, Amari Cooper's very good, too, and they have Amari Cooper now. And Jacoby can sling it. Yeah, he can play. And manage a game. Now, everybody says managing a game's bad, but Jacoby can manage a goddamn game.

You've got two running backs, a great offensive line, Amari Cooper, and that defense. Okay, Baker, good luck out there. I mean, you're going to play great. Oh, Miles Garrett's going to fucking body hit. Having four of those first six games at home, too, definitely doesn't hurt. And the two games that they play on the road are arguably the two worst teams

of the six they play to start the season. So here we go. Cleveland Browns. Schedule makers. That'd be six and a half. What? Yeah, how'd that work? Schedule makers must have known something was coming down the line

and wanted to give them an advantage. That's weird. You're speaking – is this inside voice or outside voice? Oh, shit. It sure sounded like you were just talking inside thoughts there through the microphone. But with the million dollar salary, you know, where he's getting fined

six games. $333,000. This first six games being the easiest run of their entire thing. Suspensions don't void the guaranteed money either. It's hard not to be like, this all seems to be pretty nice here for the Browns and for

Deshaun Watson. Now, we do know the schedule was already made, right? Yeah. Yeah, schedule was already made. And why would they want to take care of the Browns? Hey, the Browns deserve it. The Browns deserve it. The Browns have been through a lot. Cleveland has been through a lot. Cleveland has been. They just changed the name to the Guardians. They're still reeling from that.

Oh, yeah, and I saw Guardians merch not moving. No, it's not. It's still loose trash just rolling around. What's so funny? Bring back Wahoo. Is it really? Is merch not moving? I didn't hear that.

I think I saw like a sales chart thing. They're good at it. They can't feel the stadium. Team is dead. Nobody wants to put the G on their head, man. That's a pretty They can't feel the stadium. Team is dead. Nobody wants to put the G on their head, man. That's a pretty sick G they got, though. It is. And those bridges are sweet.

They are. With the Guardians on the bridges. People love Chief Wahoo. That's what it sounds like in Cleveland. Yeah. They really do. Big time. There's a lot of trash on those bridges, too.

Yeah, but all right. Every city, by the way. There's a reason for that. We came there at the last day before the street sweeper was to schedule to come obviously but cleveland bronze fans this run of their life has to be so fucking you know i don't say miserable run though what run they had a team had a team had a team you know had like relevancy and then boom they sell they're out of town they go to baltimore they don't even have a team anymore oh and they win the super bowl and

they win the super bowl dance in your face but blue collar town cleveland like lived in dog dog pound was there every single day why'd they sell the team originally just the owner just wanted to move it was probably stadium money related, obviously. But they had to sell out, right? I remember Pittsburgh News would obviously show Cleveland fans, and I assume Cleveland fans would show Pittsburgh News, and the reporters would read teleprompters in each of the cities and say the other city was the most disgusting city to ever exist. Look at these pigs.

And then they show them, and it's like, well, I feel like they have a passionate fan base. Why'd they leave? Was it people weren't showing up at the games? It's all Art Modell. What year did they move out? Do we know? 96 or something?

Yeah. Ray Lewis was the first draft pick, right, for the Ravens that year whenever he came in. So, yeah, 96, 95, 96. Think about that happening now. Well, I guess it does happen. Yeah, Rams just left and that's settled, obviously. Yeah, that guy. Everybody well i guess it does happen well yeah rams just left and you know that's settled obviously yeah everybody's okay with it the xfl the rocks like i will we will continue to put a team and that's it they are very pissed that they don't have a team anymore

but i guess the rams would be a great because they continue to show up even when those teams weren't great right rams fans yeah i mean the chargers taking off as well well they didn't yeah but they felt like they had no stadium, and they weren't really selling out then. Were they still? I don't know. I don't know. Well, they didn't sell out in that temporary stadium that day.

No, they didn't. That was in the move, though, to L.A. when they pissed off all their fans in San Diego, and their San Diego fans said, we're not going out there. Other teams were selling it out. Yeah, it was away games for the Chargers. Specifically Pittsburgh. And the Eagles.

A lot of Packers, too. Well, listen, it was that MLS stadium they played in. Yeah, StubHub. Like 40,000 people, right? for the show. Specifically Pittsburgh. And the Eagles. A lot of Packers too. What was it? It was that MLS stadium they played in. Yeah, StubHub. Like 40,000 people, right? No, it was like 15,000. 20? 20 maybe, yeah.

Remember it was so small. It had a good atmosphere if it was jammed though, wasn't it? It was all the away teams fans. Remember? Vacation. Yeah, let's go

in some nice weather, guys. Oh, we go to LA. These tickets are pretty cheap. Look how we're on the field. Is this a different stadium we had at the soccer stadium? Oh, okay. 27,000. 27,000, yeah. to L.A. These tickets are pretty cheap. Look how we're on the field. Is this a different stadium? Yeah, it's a soccer stadium. Oh, okay. 27,000.

27,000, yeah. That was the thing. 16 away games. Because I just automatically assume if a team moves out of the city, it's because they can't make any money there, and they feel like their fans are out, but it's obviously tax things. If the owner wants a new stadium, they won't green light him on, you know, putting a new tax in to give you $800 million in tax money to help with a new stadium.

What's the new city that's going to be teased? San Antonio? Potentially. Is that the new city that's going to be teased? Because I do recall some places were in the middle of conversations with the state local authorities about getting a tax to publicly fund a new stadium. And I see the upside of having a stadium and a new stadium. You get the Super Bowl and that's like billions of dollars of business coming to your city. But they always threaten to go to a town, right?

And L.A. was that town. L.A. was, for a long time, it was like, we'll go to L.A. right now. You don't think the second-largest city in America doesn't fucking want a team right now? We'll go there right now. And then, boom, it ends up on the voting thing, and then it gets passed. That, like, happened in a lot of places, I think. What is it now? San Antonio?

London? Yeah,? San Antonio? London? Yeah, definitely San Antonio. Do you think they would ever do a team in Alabama or something, though? Because that is a college football. Was Austin in there? The Bills were going to go to Austin? Or was that not a thing? Yeah, that was the Bills stadium.

When they were up for sale? No, I think the Bills were up for sale, weren't they? I didn't think they were up for sale. I just thought that they weren't going to get the money to redo their stadium. The Ralph or whatever? New York, yeah. So they were threatening to just say, okay, fuck it, we'll go to Austin. By the way, Austin feels like a city that would, right, NFL team?

With all the people moving there too? Yeah, and that's like something to do almost because Austin's the new LA or whatever. San Antonio is the seventh largest city in the U.S. It does not have a football team. And their fans, they're big sports fans, right? Because the Spurs or anything like that. They could play in that arena, too. Which one?

I don't know. I played in the Alamo Bowl there. Did you remember it? Oh, yeah. I played Oklahoma State, but they would obviously want a new stadium if you played there. Could Columbus do it or no? No, because Ohio State. They could, but I mean, yeah. Three teams in Ohio? It's not going to happen. I don could, but I mean, yeah. Three teams in Ohio?

It's not going to happen. I don't know if they're going to put three teams in Ohio. No offense to Ohio. I mean, Ohio. How would they? People are already Ohio State fans. Yeah, Ohio State gets it. They wouldn't be able to pluck.

If NFL fans are already Cincy and Cleveland fans, I assume. That would have to be a lot of. If Ohio picked up a third NFL team, that would be amazing. That would be one of the most impressive acts of Ohio in history. I feel like it would be more likely if the Bears are moving out of Chicago that they put another team in Chicago. It would be warm weather, you think, though? Wherever the money is, that's where they'll go.

Yeah, you're right. But a four-season, you can't put a Super Bowl... Ah, maybe. If they put another team in Chicago, would they still want to redo the stadium and do something else? Hold on. What did the mayor of Dallas came out and said, right? You can give us another team.

Another team in Arlington. Yeah, give us another team. We haven't heard from him since then. Has the Dallas mayor made a single ruling since saying, hey, we can get another NFL team in Dallas? No. Jerry Jones made him a speed bump in front of a Waterburn. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Can't do everything.

I just assumed. That cannot happen, watchers. Those were all said and just. Yeah. Jesus. Thank God we're doing what we're about to do. Ladies and gentlemen, last week we debuted a new segment that really made us a professional operation.

Hell yeah. It gave us a reason to dive deeper into the football conversation than we had ever dove before. Ladies and gentlemen, it is time for the second installment of Feel the Beat. AJ! AJ, you feeling it? I'm feeling it. I'm feeling it.

I think our first guest is good for this, too. He brings a lot of juice. Absolutely. Not only does he bring a lot of juice, and he's also the host of the most powerful ranking show in the history of ranking show. He is a beat writer and follower of the Los Angeles Chargers because he is the play-by-play guy

for the Chargers. So he's on the beat every single day. Live from training camp, ladies and gentlemen, Matt Money Smith. Feel the beat. I'm feeling the beat. Feeling the beat. We've got special teams going on behind us right now, Pat. Hopefully I don't show you anything that I'm not supposed to show you, and I get pee-pee whacked by my employer, so I may have to get a little closer to make sure that we don't show you

anything you're not supposed to see. What's up, AJ? Listen, AJ's going to bring up the same thing I'm going to bring up. If Telesco walks by and dong taps you, I would be the best field to beat of all time. Stop money. Stop showing them punt period. What is it? Is it punt period?

Field goal period? What is it? Yeah, they just finished field goals. They're on punts right now. And, Pat, I was talking to Tom a little bit earlier, and he had shared with me a letter that uh that you received from him in the front office because you had happened to miss practice on a particular wednesday and uh i said if you can track that letter down i would love to do a dramatic reading of that letter at some point

when i come back on perfect october 21st 2010 i believe is the day you're talking about they wouldn't let me out of the jail cell soon enough to make the practice. I did make it halfway through. I was sent immediately off. Tom Telesco, absolute legend, dude. Absolute legend. But it feels like they're really building a monster. Now, no playoff appearances yet for Herbert.

Second year with Staley. The vibes have to be incredibly high. The AFC West is a nightmare. But this team's ready to fucking go. Aren't they, Money? And does it feel like that on the grounds over there? Yeah, no doubt, Pat. I mean, look, there's juice. There's just juice when you walk out and you see 52 and 97, you know, kind of working on pass rush together with Khalil and Joey. They've hit it off. We were talking to Khalil a couple of days ago, Joey the day before, and they both said the same thing. They were like, look, this is great. I mean,

Khalil said, look, Joey doesn't hold anything back we're sharing everything we're watching film he's like yeah we just sat together for about 45 minutes watch this little brother uh those guys are professional pass rushers and that is what they care about most and they've really been leaning on one another to see the battles between JC Jackson and Mike Williams just the one-on-ones look it's it's the first week of practice right like that stuff, that stuff is fun. We did not have that last year. I thought their defensive coordinator, Ronaldo, he'll put it best. He's like, look, we had guys last year

that weren't looking over their shoulder. They knew those jobs were theirs. He goes, and fair or not, you know, did that contribute to the performance of the defense last year? Maybe. This year, we got guys that were starters last year. They may not make the team.

Like, they may not make the guys that are making the guys that are high traffics. Yeah, so look at that. Here we go. Pee-pee whack coming. Be careful. It's blurry.

We can't see anything. But if they're running any fakes this early in camp, they deserve for everybody to know what fakes they're running. Go ahead, AJ. Money, what's it feel like? What's the vibe feel like? I would imagine with all that competition, it seems like it's a pretty intense situation. Are they banging pretty good? I'll tell you what it feels like? What's the vibe feel like? I would imagine with all that competition, it seems like it's a pretty intense situation.

Are they banging pretty good? I'll tell you what it feels like, AJ. It feels like I need to do more shoulder and tries because I'm holding this phone straight out from my face and my arms start to shake. That's what it feels like. Nice. You can bring it up.

Shake weight. There we go. There we go. I'll do that. Yeah, yeah. I'll tell you, especially on defense, AJ, it just feels different. It feels different for these guys. Having Van Nooy out there, man, that's been really cool to see.

He's been working a lot inside and just listening to him and sort of eavesdropping with him and Will Hoyt, the linebacker's coach, and what they're talking about and how he's trying to get assimilated as soon as possible. There's just kind of that sort of juice. Staley, I mean, I don't know what you guys tell me. I'm a guy that's built like a 16-year-old girl that never played football, so what the hell do I know?

But, like, it feels like Staley and this staff, they like teaching. Like, they're not – it feels like there's a difference between coaching and teaching and just kind of watching them work with, like, sixth-round pick Dean Leonard, the corner, work with Jasir Taylor, who's been playing a lot of slot. It just feels like they're really invested in a lot of these guys, and they know they're going to need depth because look, that's what happened last year. One in three to finish the final quarter of the season. They win that Thursday night game

against Kansas City. They're in first place in the division. They sweep the Chiefs. They lose that game. Then they lose two of their next three. They miss the playoffs. And I think so much of that was depth and so much of that was secondary depth. They feel like they got that now. Okay. Let's talk about the offense side of the ball. Justin Herberg, everybody knows and thinks, is going to be an icon in the NFL whenever it's all said and done. Any leaps and bounds for him in anything both on the field and maybe personality-wise as he enters his third year as an NFL starter here? Yeah, the way he described it and Joe Lombardi described it was

instead of 101, it's 202. He is coming in. And I remember when Drew Brees was in camp last year, when Joe Lombardi was hired, you know, to be part of Coach Staley's staff. He said, look, imagine, and I think for a lot of us white trash, we think about fine dining and Cheesecake Factory comes to mind. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

That's right. Yeah, mini corn dough. Put them on a stick. Chicken fried chicken. And he said, this is a giant menu, and the more comfortable you get, the more you can order. And he said, in Herbert's first year, it's going to be a little overwhelming. He's going to find the things that he likes.

And Coach Lombardi, they're going to kind of accent that and just kind of hammer those things home. Now Herbert's like, dude, I'm coming in. I don't have to learn this system. I know it. I'm searching for things that I now know that I'm more comfortable with. Hey, let's try this now. Let's try that now.

It's no more just kind of base level. Let's see if we can figure this out. It's the next step. And I think that goes for receivers too. We were talking to Keenan and Mike Williams and all those guys, and they just said, yeah, you know, it's year two for us as well that's right yeah that's right that's right that's right that's right exactly so uh so i think for everybody on the team and even eckler was talking about that he's like look man i feel so much more comfortable with all the option routes

and the checks now this second year i feel like there's a lot more that i can do in this offense than i did last year game's gonna going to slow down for Justin Herbert and the boys. I'm excited to see what they can do. That AFC West is a monster, though. Go ahead, your corner. Yeah, Monty, what has Pat White been doing with the offense? Is he working with Herbert? Yeah! Yeah, my guy. Love him.

Yeah, I asked Tom Telesco about that, kind of, and Tom said, look, I needed to get another connection to pat mackerel that's the easiest way for me to to get one of the greatest i mean you want to talk about one of the most fun college teams to ever watch in the history of rich rod running the show with you out there punting around and shaking your junk in everybody's face and freaking pat and slayton god was that great that was part uh was part of it. Pat is – I should have been part of it.

That's what you're supposed to do. That's your hindsight. I should have been. You can work in time. Those were mistakes that were made. Mistakes were made. You know what? They're mistakes we learn from, Pat.

And that's the most important thing. We all make mistakes. We took one. Yes. To that letter. Yeah, Tom Glasgow. Yeah, I missed that. Missed that practice on Wednesday.

Yeah, yeah. I brought Ripple. It'll get the best of you. Yeah, literally can't get out of there. Hey, they're kicking off right now. Anyways. He's working with everyone. And it's great to see him out here, a freaking college football legend,

just like the man, just like the men that are saying, which I am the meat. I am like that budding white trash. Hell yeah. No, no, no, no. Giant slices of football bread right now this is one big white trash sandwich yeah and one particular side of the bun is like a good middle piece of bread and then the other is the butt and yes uh pat how's pat look is he throwing

it all is he doing anything does he look good he's just kind of kicking it uh through these first couple weeks he's just been kicking it and i think, he's kind of got that post that is, and you know, it's, it's the bill Walsh sort of, Hey, we're going to bring you in. You're going to be in every meeting.

You're going to be around whomever you want. And we're just going to kind of help you get on this path to football coaching. So he's kind of been everywhere. And it looks like these first couple of weeks, he's really just kind of been absorbing everything that's around him. He's going to start working out again. There's going to be some shows on those fucking practice fields, I think, for Pat.

I'm so happy for him and thankful for Tom. Last question here from Ty. Money, we've seen a bunch of pictures with a shitload of fans at practice. Is that kind of surprising? I think it was, especially with the Rams winning the Super Bowl last year and them kind of being the more popular team out there. Do you get the sense that the expectation is that the Chargers should win this division this year despite how good it is?

Yeah, Ty, you know what I think it is? I think it just goes to show you why quarterbacks are so sought after, why you're so desperate to get it right, and why you pay them so much money. When you get one, to me, that's totally the Herbert effect. I think you get out here and you see the second he steps on the field when he began he approaches there's no fans here today but when they are he always takes time to go out there and give them 10-15 minutes a sign an autograph with the kids like I think that's sort of what this is I think there's expectations people are excited it's a fun brand of football when you think about what the offense looks like all the explosive plays we're going is that right we're going people love it and uh and they have a

superstar quarterback and like just to your first point about what's it how surprised am i uh very because it really happened these last two years you know i started seeing people walk around the stadium last year it'd be like mom and dad i mean you guys know what football allegiances are like so mom and dad are in their Browns jersey, and baby boy is now wearing a Herbert jersey. Yeah, yeah. And more of that. So this year, dude, the first practice, it was on a Wednesday,

and there were – I was talking to security. When they came to open it up at 345, they said there were like 30 people lined up at 345 a.m. Here we go. So, you know, they had to cap people lined up at 3.45 a.m. Here we go. Bolt fan. Exactly. They have to cap it every day at 75. It's like the commanders.

So, yeah, it feels a little bit different than the commanders. They command. Hey, we appreciate you, Matt. Thank you so much for calling. We can't wait to chat with you again, sir. Love you guys. Hey, you too. Tell everybody we said hello.

Ladies and gentlemen, Matt Money Smith. Hi, everybody. He you guys. Hey, you too. Tell everybody we said hello, ladies and gentlemen, Matt Money Smith. Hi, everybody. He's live at Chargers Cam. Now it's time to continue to, hey, let's feel the beat, AJ. Let's feel the beat. Hell yeah.

From one beat reporter to another, ladies and gentlemen, let's go up to Buffalo, New York. Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, Bill's beat and sideline reporter, host of the Extra Point Show from 10 to noon on WGR 550.

Ladies and gentlemen, Sal Capaccio. Sal! What's going on, Paisan? Hey, what's up, guys? What are you, British? Capaccio. It's Capaccio, baby.

Let's go. All right. Hey, well, Capaccio, it's great to see you, man. You look fantastic. Thank you so much for joining us. Buffalo Bills camp. Obviously, Micah Hyde and Poyer both getting injured. Poyer comes out, hyperextended elbow.

He might miss a couple weeks. He'll be back in time. Are the injuries an issue, or is everything, this is just status quo for normal training camp up there in buffalo cell a little more than what you want of course right you don't want to see your two all pro safeties on the shelf at all but look micah hyde came back to practice that individual work a little bit he's going to be fine we know jordan poyer's a tough dude he's probably going to do something maybe to resemble you know i don't know boxing or mma when he's done he's such a really

tough guy and you know he's going to be back out there at some point. But look, here's the thing about the Bills roster. It is so good and loaded, but yet all the back-end guys, they don't get a lot of opportunity because guys like Micah and Jordan play so much. So Jaquan Johnson, Damar Hamlin, Josh Thomas, this is opportunity for them and it really is. People don't know Jaquan Johnson's in his fourth year already

in Buffalo because he's behind two All-Pros and he never plays. So these guys are a good opportunity. They're going to be okay. Okay. Sal, what's it like up there managing expectations? A lot of people are picking the Bills to win the Super Bowl. Is there a different feel there at camp than it has been before? No, I don't think there's a different feel as far as when you go to camp. Look, Sean McDermott runs the same kind of ship every day.

That's the thing about him. He's Mr. C, Mr. Consistency. You go back to 2017, how he came in. People thought they were tanking, trading Sammy Watkins, Ron Darby. But you know what? They had a program in place. It was consistency every day. You can't tell a difference, guys, between a practice now and a practice then. But the fans certainly know it. You can't get a ticket to training camp. They're free, but it's all sold out every single day. The expectations. Everyone's a superstar on this team. I mean, I covered this team. I grew up watching this team going through the super bowl years and the drought you might

get after the kelly and thermonera you might get a guy here a guy there that's a superstar a to here and there but now it's josh allen stefan digs von miller it's incredible what's happened here yeah it's an absolute loaded roster but they still feel like they have a chip on the shoulder was it no pro bowlers on the defense last year, and now they're the Super Bowl favorites. Let's talk about that prototype quarterback you have in Josh Allen. The patience that Bean and McDermott showed,

and also the unwavering confidence in him growing and developing as a quarterback has certainly paid off into him being a guy. He's getting into fights. He's getting knocked down. Sal, what the fuck? That's Josh Allen, Sal. Is that just Josh's way of going about things?

Are those types of squirmishes normal in McDermott's camp, or is that just first day of pads? We're running goal line in our 6'6", 240, multiple hundred million dollar quarterbacks running ISOs for some reason. Is that just uh status quo up there no listen we don't want to see josh allen doing that nobody wants to see josh allen doing that but it's football let me give you some context though that was the first day of pads it was about after two hours it was literally the last play on a hot day in the first

day of pads i'm sure josh and everybody kind of was riled up they wanted to get out they wanted to get out of there a little bit you know look he went through the hole jordan phillips did nothing wrong he was squeezing the hole down a little bit, gave him a little bump right around the whistle. Josh didn't like it. And the one guy on offense that can look Jordan Phillips in the eye is Josh Allen. Put his hands on him up top, little skirmish happened. Look, I think this happens in football, but I'm quite sure that Brandon Bean, Sean McDermott basically said, holy shit, what's happening? Our million dollar quarterback is, you know, a half a million, a billion-dollar quarterback's getting into some fights here.

But look, guys, the next day they were joking around. That's Josh Allen. He is an alpha male. He is a leader. He has such respect from that locker room. You know, you guys know where he came from and all the questions about him and what you said, Pat, is right. They've really built a quarterback here in Buffalo.

They've surrounded him with the right people. The organization knows how to do that, and we've seen it now on multiple levels, not just at QB, and Josh obviously has been rewarded. No day ball. That going to be a problem? You know, it can be. I think that's the biggest question, actually.

Like, what's going to happen? Ken Dorsey, first-time play caller. How will Josh Allen in the offense kind of adjust to that? But here's how smart Sean McDermott is. He surrounded his first-time play caller, Ken Dorsey, with Aaron Cromer, who's been an interim head coach and an OC, with Joe Brady, who's been an OC and a play caller.

They obviously have Rob Boris on staff. He's been an OC. They have Kelly Skipper on staff. They brought in Mike Shula. Ken Dorsey has a plethora of people to lean on whenever a situation comes about. And look, he had Josh Allen's recommendation. Sal. You got two quarterbacks. You got no quarterbacks.

You got 10 OCs. You got no OCs. Is that this is all by design, like, to help out Dorsey? Or is this McDermott being like, hey, by the way, go ahead and fuck around. We got bang! Bang! Bang! Bang! Is that clearly defined, do you think? No, I think

it's clearly defined. Sean doesn't want to do that. There's no way. I think Sean wants a clear lineage of who's that look i'll go back to sean's first two years sean was very self-aware he was a young coach he was a first-time coach and i think that first year maybe the second year he had the oldest and most veteran coaching staff in the league juan castillo was on the staff i mean you had guys have been coaching for 40 years in the nfl on his staff he did that because he wanted to have guys around him to insulate just in case something were to go wrong he could lean on but look guys this is ken dorsey's offense but the proof's in the NFL on his staff. He did that because he wanted to have guys around him to insulate just in case something were to go wrong, he could lean on. But look, guys, this is Ken Dorsey's offense.

But the proof's in the pudding. There's difference between, hey, we're doing it in training camp than when live bullets start in real games. And you've got to get in and out of the huddle and make those play calls and make sure you have everything buttoned up. How much has Vaughn Miller been doing so far through camp? He's just a regular player. The Bills have a rotation on the defensive line. They've had that for years. The question isn't going to be in camp, which is a

good question, what he's doing, which is everything. The question will be, will he be the exception to the rule? And I think he will. The Bills generally do not have a defensive lineman play more than 65% of snaps throughout a whole season. I mean, last year, I think Jerry Hughes led him with 58 or 59%. That's kind of normal for the Bills. Von Miller, you got to get this damn guy in the field, right? I mean, I think the Bills know that. That's why they signed him to the big deal. I know he's 33. He's not there to be necessarily an every down player, although he'll play, I think, plenty. He's there to be the closer. He's there to be in critical situations. He's there to make sure they have him ready to go when it comes crunch time. And maybe they have to get

to Patrick Mahomes with 13 seconds left. Sal, obviously we know Stephon Diggs is the guy there, but Gabe Davis scores four touchdowns against the Chiefs in the AFC playoffs last year. Can we expect more of that from some more of the role players or the second guys on the list? I think you can. I think Gabe Davis is going to fit well into that number two role. Look, I mean, this guy gained 17 pounds in the offseason, went from 210 to 227.

He's thick upper body. He's a physical receiver. You see him body up some of these corners. They don't have a chance in training camp. Now, he doesn't have the top end speed, but guys, look at his yards per catch throughout his career. He's always made plays down the field. I think what you're going to see, though, Isaiah McKenzie. This has been the star of camp so far, guys.

When he got his shot last year, remember, he went off against the New England Patriots. The Patriots, I don't know if they game-planned for him. Belichick had his hubris of, whoa, it doesn't matter. We'll stop Isaiah McKenzie. But basically, he's running down the field. They're like, there he goes. The Patriots secondary is like, there, who goes? They didn't know Isaiah McKenzie was making plays all over the place. And he's been doing it again. And Sean McDermott said, potentially a full-time role. I think he's going to do that. I think he's going to have that. And look, if I was a fantasy football player, which I am, I would keep Isaiah McKenzie on my radar for a lot of targets this year. You good? Are you a good fantasy football player?

It sounds like you love fantasy football, huh, Sean? I love it. I mean, I love playing it. It keeps me up my job. You know, who's doing what. And you know what? If I'm there at the end, it's great. And I'll kind of get into, I love playing it. It keeps me up my job. You know, who's doing what. And you know what? If I'm there at the end, it's great, and I'll kind of get into it a little bit more. But I try to just do my best at it.

You know what? My job, I can learn about players, waiver wires, what's going on, and it's okay. Do you ever tell Bean, like, hey, I want to let you know, my team, I drafted better than your team. Pretty good. You ever give him ideas or anything? How's your relationship? Oh, listen. First of all, relationship's great.

Brandon is a terrific guy. I know he's been on your show. He's great here. He's great on our show, by the way. He's great for Buffalo. He's also a great damn golfer. We were in a golf tournament, like a media event. That's all Bean does is fucking golf. You draft Josh Allen, you can just go fucking golf.

Hey, we made the decision we needed to make. Every time we call Bean, he's got a polo on, just got a little bit of sun. Josh Allen, you can just go fucking golf. Hey, we made the decision we need to make. Every time we call Bean, he's got a polo on, just got a little bit of sun. He's great. He's unbelievable. That son of a bitch better be Scratch. Is he Scratch? Is that guy a Scratch golfer? He's pretty close to it. He's probably out at Oak Hill today.

I mean, after the walkthrough. Of course. He gets enough advice from his kid on fantasy football from what he tells us. He doesn't need Sal Capaccio telling him what to do uh last question here sal we appreciate you go ahead ty schmidt so you mentioned covering the team for such a long time now and josh allen when he first came in you know it was kind of like though he has all the physical tools but like have has it been very noticeable year over year and then finally you get into this year and it's like okay this guy is is pretty much bulletproof like how much different does he feel almost

this year than maybe he did last year or the year before? Yeah, I think this year the difference is when Josh makes a mistake in camp, you're like, okay, who cares? It's Josh Allen. We know what he's going to do. Over the last several years, maybe not as much last year, but, oh, my God, interception, Mr. Inaccurate QB. What does that mean?

Do you have to worry about this guy? Look, we know who Josh Allen is. He's not only an elite quarterback, he is a superstar off the field. He's already put himself in the upper echelon of quarterbacks. And if anybody at this point doesn't believe that,

then basically they're just trying to prove themselves right when they were wrong. They're just being stubborn or ignorant and don't know anything about football. Hey, a lot of people are stubborn and ignorant and know next to nothing about football,

but we're happy that you are not one of those people. Thank you so much for joining us, Paisan. Anytime, guys. It was an honor to be on your show, and I hope we can do it again. Hey, by the way, great work, Digital. Like, you put a tweet out about coming on the show. The action on it was very real, Sal. You're beloved by Bill's Mafia, man.

That's not easy to do. Well, listen, I got to tell you something. That's two things, all right? Number one, I grew up here. Like, I know what these people have been through. I'm one of them. I'm a Buffalonian. I went through the drought.

I was taking a Greyhound bus from Syracuse University as a poor college student during the Super Bowl years back to the stadium as a season ticket holder. But number two, Pat, I'm just not an asshole. You don't have to be an asshole, right? Just be nice to people. That's what I am. Well, we appreciate you being nice to our show.

You're incredible, ladies and gentlemen. Sal Caportier. Yes, Sal! Thank you, Pison. I'll tell you what. Sal is fucking great. That sound over his shoulder, that just has a buffalo. It's just a sound underneath.

It was awesome. How about him in a power stance that time? Energy was up. Any question that came came he was ready and ready thank you sal so much for being a part of you know the second installment that is only getting better as the time goes on let's continue to feel the beat oh yeah bopping around the league yeah we are just bopping around the league hey let's feel the beat it around the league. Yeah, we are just bopping around the league. Hey, let's feel the beat at around the league. Let's bop from team to team.

Ladies and gentlemen, joining us from the Packers on the beat, writer for The Athletic. Ladies and gentlemen, Mash Nine Man. What's up, dude? What's up? Thanks for having me. Hey, is this your first time on the show? Actually, I was going to bring that up.

It's my second, but you had me on after a thursday night game in 2019 okay i was listening to the show right before i came on and you said why are we having a beat writer on it so it humbled me a little bit sounds about right but to be clear schneidman people in the office say we created this entire segment just to have you on that's what we did just so we can make a reason because we remembered in 2019 we love the conversation and you heard how my brain operates why would we ever have a beat writer so we had to create a segment of beat writers just to get you back on we appreciate you joining us you went to Syracuse is that a Syracuse S or what

is that I did yeah I was. I would have worn something different, but we had a Brian Gutekunst press conference real early this morning. It was raining, so I put this on. So I apologize you had to have two Syracuse guys on in a row, but what are we going to do? Well, unlike, was Sal the Syracuse guy or Matt Money Smith? Sal. Yeah, so unlike, well, he told us there at the end I was at Syracuse.

I took the bus over. He didn't just shove it in our faces. No, he didn't. That's normally what Syracuse people do. Oh, yeah, he told us there at the end, I was at Syracuse. I took the bus over. He didn't just shove it in our face. No, he didn't. That's normally what Syracuse people do. Oh, yeah, of course. Because Syracuse Broadcasting School. Oh, my God. Oh, here we go.

Harvard Broadcasting. Everybody is there. And you're going, it's like vegans, right? Crossfitters. Yeah. People that go to Syracuse for broadcasting school. Yeah, right there. You're going fucking no.

Hope you like oranges. That's why Sal's got 139,000 followers. That's right. Yeah, that's the whole thing. He's a Syracuse guy. Schneidman, I're going to fucking know. Hope you like oranges. That's why Sal's got 139,000 followers. That's right. Yeah, that's the whole thing. He's a Syracuse guy. Schneidman, I want to let you know, it makes sense you went to Syracuse because Syracuse has a great broadcasting journalism school, and you do fantastic work, sir.

We actually follow along week to week with everything you do, and we appreciate you. Thank you for joining us yet again. Syracuse Orange grad, Matt Schneidman, writer for The Athletic, follows the pack. Obviously, brand new set of weapons right I mean Lazard's there uh Tanyan's still there they're still familiar names but without the number one in Devante everybody's wondering what Aaron's gonna do how Aaron's gonna feel it looks like from the videos Aaron's very comfortable very confident and excited to work with new guys is that that what it's like, boots on the ground,

and how has camp been for the offensive side of the ball? Definitely. I mean, he won't say this publicly. In fact, he refuted it publicly. But A.J. and Pat, you all know him probably better than I do, definitely better than I do. I think he sees this year as a challenge. Part of him wants to prove that he's the bad man Aaron Rodgers.

He can get the most out of these guys without Devontae Adams. And think about this. Devontae Adams has missed seven games since Matt LaFleur became head coach in 2019. The Packers are 7-0 in those games, and Aaron Rodgers has averaged about 293 passing yards, a little less than three touchdowns per game in those games with only one interception in all seven games. So, listen, he's the guy that can make it work. You remember when they went to undefeated Arizona on a Thursday night last year without Lazard, MVS, and Devontae, and they won 24-21. It's a defense.

It's a running game. It's a formula that's knocked them out of the playoffs two out of the last three years with the 49ers with a pedestrian passing game. Why can't it work here in Green Bay? Matt, why is the head coach, Matt LaFleur, physically assaulting jugs machines up there? What happened? That's honestly the most angry I've seen him get

since they had 10 guys on the field to defend Robbie Gould's game-winning field goal in the playoffs. He was legitimately angry. And a couple of us watching practice were like, this has to be on purpose. You know, Rich Versace is a crazy crazy guy he's probably doing some different things making the punt returners come up and catch it no he said that judge jugs machine sucked i will pay any price for a new one he was really angry so he's got half-ass shit up there what's going on i see there's a joke what's that aj i didn't see this video that you're referring to. LeFleur was absolutely flustered, actually upset about what was going on there.

No, Matt knows. Yeah, whatever. It wouldn't turn over, right? They couldn't get the jugs machine to turn over, so it was messing up their whole punt situation. Also, they were trying to do a punt return drill, and the punt return drill, by the way, set off the timing of the punt and the ball being caught,

and it couldn't get on the field because of how windy it was. Probably not able to turn the ball over and control it. No, it had nothing to do with the wind. The jugs machine was just that fucked up. Oh, can't have it. Can't have it. Can't have it. What are we doing?

We don't have number one wide receiver and we don't have jugs machines. Don't love that. We're making $200 million off the field every single year just from people buying tickets and stuff. Figure it out. Figure it out. Didn't the goons talk about this this morning in his early morning presser? Like, yeah, we all figured some stuff out when it comes to equipment-wise.

Or what did Goody talk about this morning? Just standard roster update. What is really the conversation happening in Green Bay right now? Yeah, I think the biggest storyline, which he talked about when he talked to us a week ago, is David Bakhtiari's left knee. This is a guy who made an all-pro team every single year from 2016 to 2020, and then tore his ACL in a freak accident in practice, as you guys know, on New Year's Eve 2020, preparing for a game against the Bears to lock up the one seed. It's over 19 months since

that day, and he's still not practicing. He told us last week it's not even the ACL anymore. It's like collateral damage from that. The ACL's been healed for over a year they're not going to put a timetable on his return but right now they're trotting out yosh niman who did well for them at left tackle last year and then zach tom a rookie fourth round pick from wake forest at right tackle because elton jenkins and bakhtiari which was the starting left side of the Pro Bowl NFC line in 2020. Jogs machines. Are both rehabbing major knee injuries. So if you've got a 38-year-old quarterback who can still scoot around a little bit,

but not as much as maybe he used to, you've got to keep him upright. And you need your two best offensive linemen back. That's the biggest story here this camp. Put it on the ticker. Matt Steinman thinks Aaron Rodgers can't run anymore, too. Hey, sorry about it matt good luck good luck you're gonna do great at practice i'm sure aaron won't see it go ahead matt for maybe the first time in my lifetime uh the people are talking kind of more about the defense i mean

we all know what rogers can do and we kind of expect the offense to figure it out maybe not right away but by the end of the season they'll be you know a well-oiled machine but how does the defense look so far and you know are people right to be kind of more excited maybe about the prospects of the defense this year than in years past? Absolutely. I mean, Rodgers started off camp basically by setting – well, he set it on with you guys. I shouldn't even say to start camp.

He set it with you guys. The offense might struggle a little bit because we are a defensive team, and that's really been the case. I know on day one he said 1-0 to the offense and said the defense are a bunch of jumps but pretty much every day since then it's been defense there's really no weaknesses going from jair alexander who you could make a case is a top three corner in the league highest paid at his position in nfl history he's back healthy mountaineaineer Rasul Douglas, Eric Stokes. Dog. Good safety combo.

Rasul Douglas. What? Sorry about that. First, all-pro inside linebacker in Devondre Campbell. Then you have Kenny Clark, Rashawn Gary, Preston Smith on the D-line. This could be a defensive team for, I don't know, Ty. Is it the first time in Aaron Rodgers' career? I know the 2010 defense was really good, but obviously,

oh, it was on that. Talking on AJ. Talking on AJ. Talking on Aaron. He can screw it a little bit. You're the best, Steinman. We're talking to Matt Steinman, working for The Athletic, covering the pack. Also host of the Head of the Pack podcast.

Oh, yeah. That's right. Head of the Pack podcast. Oh, yeah. Head of the Pack. Are you the only host or is there a co-host? No, Bill Huber, who covers the team for Sports Illustrated up here, is my co-host. We like to say our coverage is that. Oh, your coverage is Head of the Pack. Got it.

Okay. So it's not you. It's your coverage. Correct. Yes. That's on us. We're in the middle of Feel the Beat right now. We're feeling it now. Connor, last question here from Matt Schneiman, Syracuse you. It's your coverage. Correct. Yes. That's on us. We're in the middle of Feel the Beat right now. We're feeling it now. Connor, last question here from Matt Schneiman, Syracuse grad.

Yeah, Matt, you mentioned the defense and obviously the rookie right tackle on offense. Is there a sense around the building that they are going to lean on some rookies, whether it be wide receiver? I believe they have a rookie D-line in Wyatt and one other one who plays middle linebacker. Yeah, are they going to lean on those guys this season or is it primarily going to be the vets from the last few years? I mean, you'll see your heavy dose of the Randall Cobbs, Alan Lazards, but the player of camp so far on the offensive side of the ball

has been Romeo Dobbs. Dog. He's an absolute dog. There it is. Fourth receiver from the – over 2100 receiving yards and 20 touchdown catches the last two years we were just talking to rogers in the locker room a couple minutes ago and he said what he's doing in camp is very rare for a rookie and you guys know aaron rogers does doesn't just throw around praise like that like if he see he'll tell it how it is romeo dobbs is making a push

to get some serious reps beginning of the season so we'll see i think him zach tom the rookie offensive tackle and quay walker who's the middle linebacker from georgia they drafted with a 22nd pick he's been running with the ones all camp rookies don't really contribute that much around here normally especially at receiver i think this year could be different well match diamond we appreciate your contribution to our show and feel the beat that's match diamond from the athletic cover in fact thank you matt this now is a man that we say you up to all the time oh yeah every morning we turn on the show that he is an emmy award winner uh for performing on very early every single day. Oh, yeah. This man brings the juice. He went from a producer in the jungle

to maybe one of the biggest stars in all of media. He's yoked. He's attractive. He's handsome. He has energy. And he's debuting a new show alongside the Omaha Productions, which is Peyton Manning's production company, called Kyle Brandt's Basement.

Ladies and gentlemen, Kyle Brandt's basement ladies and gentlemen Kyle Brandt are you in your basement right now let's do it let's do it Pat yeah yeah yeah yeah tank in my chain yeah all in baby feels like that's a beater that looks like a beater not a a tank top. Or is that a tank top? I think it's a tank top. Full disclosure, Pat, this came from my wife's closet. I don't own a black tank top. And you think that's good?

So like 20 minutes ago, I'm like, oh, I want to dress up like Pat. Honey, do you have any black tank tops? Here's this one. And the best part is, I'm like, do you have like a gold necklace? I had to get this from my six-year-old daughter's jewelry box in the playroom. So I have multiple members of the Brandt family. I wish I had a stogie for AJ, but we don't do that here. But I feel great. Yeah, I'll tell you what.

If you start lighting up in your basement there, that would be an aggressive decision. You look good, Kyle. You look very good. You could pull this off every day. I think I said this to you last year. We saw you almost, I don't want to say transform, but you've become recently yoked guy, right? Like super into fitness. Is this just new lifestyle? And what is it? What are you dieting, working out every day? What, how do you do it? I finally bit the bull and I hired a trainer. It works, man. It turns

out if you pay someone 150 bucks for 40 minutes, it actually works. And they make you do this stuff, Pat. They do this stuff. They make you do stuff that you hate like all of us even ex-athletes are like i know how to work out i know how to get a lift i don't need to pay but then when you go in there and they get you those kettlebells and they do something called like turkish get-ups oh lunging and you're doing yeah you've done those things yeah they're terrible they are my own but when the big guy who's like 240 with the barrel chest is like get down and do them, you do them. And that's what you pay for. So it works.

Turnout hard work actually works. You look good. Thanks, bud. You too. Kyle, you've always been jacked in my eyes. I feel like going back to your running back days, when you were running the ball, do you think if you were playing football now in today's NFL, you'd get kicked out every game? I know you have a big, hard head.

You were running that thing right through the defenders all the time. Was that your style of play? AJ, you're all over it. I remember back in the day, remember when Trent Richardson came out of Alabama, and he goes to Cleveland, and they're like, this guy's going to be Jim Brown. This is like the nastiest running back we've ever seen.

There's a play from his rookie year where safety came up, and Big T Rich, he just lowered the head, full crown, and we're not allowed to talk about it or play anything. But he Earl Campbelled this guy. It was unbelievable. That was me in the Chicago suburbs in 1995, slower and shorter, over and over and over.

Like my main move, like this head, look at the size of this cranium. I wear a 7-7-8 hat, and I'm 5'11". So my head was my biggest weapon. I was crowning everybody. And maybe that's my behavior these days. I hope not. But AJ, that's my only move. I wasn't juking anybody.

I was like an entry-level 4-5 guy, my fastest. So the crown, don't come for the crown. You might miss. That was the thing. Didn't you go to Princeton, though? You have one of those thick skulls, you think? Zero documented concussions? No, definitely not.

I didn't say anything about that. There's just probably some damage down there. Listen, Pat, until you get blindsided from some guy from Yale, like, you have not taken a hit. Yeah. Those dudes at Brown go hard because they come for it. Yeah. Getting into Harvard.

They come for it. Okay, let's chit-chat about all your successes, even though it seems like you are a rock for brains. You're not at all. You're incredibly intelligent, very talented, and you always entertain, like, at the ass crack of dawn on the NFL Network. So I was very excited to hear about a new show. Remember, we were some of the biggest supporters of that Friday.

What was that show? The NFL Network said, hey, Kyle, we want to give you a show, but we know it's going to fail. We're going to put it on a Friday at 5 o'clock. You had no shot. You had no fucking chance in that show. What was it called? So imagine.

I'll tell you what it's called. It's called Pat Basically Killed It Before It Started. Imagine you're just some kid, and you used to be a radio producer and you used to be on the fucking real world and you used to be on days of our lives and the nfl that the premier league in this country gives you your own program i don't care if it's down at two in the morning on a tuesday i come on pat's show at the time and i'm selling it friday night six o'clock it's happy hour have a beer watch the show I think it actually could be a really cool time so I think it's a good thing and Pat's like

that's no was on for like 20 minutes it's like no one watch football on Friday 630 NFL is unbeatable it was beat beat. It got beat. Put them back. Kyle, I only said that to you because of how big of fans we were of yours. How big of a fan I am of yours. And I was excited to hear you got your own show. Thought it was a long time coming. And then whenever we heard the details, we're like, oh, of course. Of course they won't give up.

But now it feels like alongside Omaha Productions here with Peyton Manning and team that have been behind a lot of great ideas great concepts I think they go all in Kyle Brandt's basement how did we get to this point what's it gonna be and when does it debut congratulations we can't wait to watch and listen and thank you to the boys and thank you to AJ uh how we got to this point the quick origin story was I did the thing last year with the Manning cast with Peyton and Eli who I know you guys know both of them and I got to the point where I screen tested with Peyton and Eli for what would become the Manning cast and when I say screen tested this is a year ago so we're in

a zoom and I'm in there you know Eli's eager beaver he's like the first one there and there's like 27 ESPN executives all there and I'm there and then Peyton comes in and it's like you feel hail to the chief in your head. And we watched the game, the three of us. I mean, this was like some sort of bizarre acid trip. We watched the 2020 Browns-Ravens game. It was tape of it, basically. Me, Eli, and Peyton.

And just kind of talked ball, and I tried to get out of their way and tried to make a joke or tried to tee them up. And I thought it went well. Like I cracked them up and everything. We get done with the thing. And one of the executives calls me and he goes, what did you think? And I'm like, Peyton is so good. He's so good.

Because we hadn't really seen him much in the media at the time. And Eli is so perfect. I'm like, this is a dream job. This is a hugely prestigious job. And I have to tell you, you shouldn't hire anybody. There should be no host. Nobody. It should just be no host. Nobody. It should just be the two of them.

And honestly, Pat, like, I think in that moment that earned me some credibility. Because if I could have just said, no, I think we fit in well, I wasn't a fit. And I think they saw that and they're like, oh, that's kind of a cool answer. And then that led to this, which is Caldron's basement. I'm in my basement right now. I'm right here, Pat. That, like, over there is my garage with, like, filthy soccer balls, and over there is my bar.

So I feel like I'm right in between sports and booze. Is it that way? Is my bar that way? Let me show you if you should try to look over there. Let's give it a little look-see. That ain't a horse, see? Pat, let me comment on the outfit, because this has to do with you, and AJ, you'll love this.

Part of the reason I'm wearing this outfit is because I feel like, in a way, Pat, you're the executive producer of this new show. Let me tell you, it's not a bone that I have to pick with you. But oh, my God, I'm so goddamn exasperated with you. Every meeting that I take in my career to try to further my career, to try to put food on my family's table, everyone, they're like, yeah, Kyle. So we're thinking maybe we could do like a Pat McAfee type thing. Kyle, you can do a Pat McAfee thing. Maybe Pat McAfee. And then I'll flip it and I'll come in with an idea.

And I'll say, you know, I got this kind of energy and I can be anecdotal and I can talk to the people and kind of be relatable. And they'll go, okay, so kind of like a Pat McAfee thing. Enough with the Pat. I love Pat. Kyle, if it means anything, Kyle, if it means anything, I take that as a massive compliment that I'm even in the same conversation as you. And I would assume for a lot of these roles, we need a jacked up, excitable football white guy. I assume all those roles are going to you that they are not offering to me. So I would like to let you know that I am appreciative of you representing our spirit in these positions that would never get these types of jobs before, though, Kyle.

Thank you, buddy. There's not a lot of us. Look, you played in the league, but it's you and me, and then it's Scott Hanson on Red Zone, that type of energy. There's not many. But listen, I got a text this morning from Peyton. It was my first ever text from Peyton, which was a thrill. I don't know him. I didn't play with him.

But I got a text from Peyton saying you're going to do great and you're going to kill this. Tell me what you think of my response because I got a little nervous and I was at a stoplight. How quick did you respond? How quick did you respond, first of all? All right. So I was driving and I was driving through heavy traffic. So I'm like, I got to show Peyton that I mean business. And then I want to respond right away because that's the kind of teammate he wants.

So I pulled over, and I pulled over and did it safely. Here you go. I said, Peyton, thrilled to hear from you, proud to be part of this. Listen, man, I'm going to be your Edgerin, big plays, workhorse, and a little bit wild. Was that good? Yeah, I mean, Edgerin would probably be like, well, I was actually pretty cerebral. I calculated. I got the response. There was not a text response, but he did the thing where, like, Peyton loved your text with the heart.

I liked it, baby. Yeah, love's good. Love's good. And then you're just not going to talk ever again? Are you going to send him one tonight? Like, hey, man, talked about your text today. Seemed to go over well. Tell him goodnight tonight.

You know what? I got his number now, so I could get JJ. I could start doing gifts. I could start sending him a lot of text lists. You know, like, hey, if you're having trouble sleeping tonight, here's this spoken word McConaughey thing. It works for me. Oh, hey, baby, you guys are besties.

I got you. Whatever you need. I work for the company now. Hey, I think AJ. Kyle, real quick. Can I ask a question, though, Pat? I guys are besties. I got you. Whatever you need. I'm working for the company now. Hey, I think AJ – Kyle, real quick. Can I ask a question, though, Pat? I know Pat told me – So first, can you explain exactly what you're going to be doing on this show in your basement?

And also, are you in the process of tracking Shefty down? Because Pat tells me he scooped your whole announcement. That was awesome. The Shefty thing is fascinating. So thank goodness for Adam Shefter. He tweets the show yesterday. I might have mistimed it a little bit in which I said, oh, hey, guys, I'm going to announce something really cool tomorrow. And like 26 seconds later, Adam Schefter said, Kyle Bryant has a new show.

It looks like it got screwed. It was literally. It was like 20 minutes later. The picture is fucking phenomenal. I think we picked that photo, right? Yeah. You guys took creative liberty. That was not the picture.

Those are in my private files you look good um but no the show is that look it's it's similar i'm not messing with you it's similar to what you guys do i'm in this crazy set look at this i got i got the warrior here hell yeah i got all my guys that's my favorite of all time over here i got i got a i got mj i got vince carter's up there i got dominique there's dartboards there's basketball hoops i'm gonna work out while i talk i'm gonna tell you what i love what i hate what's hilarious it's gonna be like a really constructive organized shit show and we're gonna hang and maybe smoke cigars and hammer beers it's gonna be awesome

i think i saw um are you gonna have people in your basement or is it going to be via Zoom or call? They'll come to the basement. And, Pat, like, I don't know if this is going to drive you crazy, but another thing I followed in your footsteps for, every Tuesday I have the same guests as you do. And it is a very, very, very, very, very, very big NFL player who is committed to come every Tuesday. Who? And unbelievably excited. I'm kind of not supposed to say it.

Can you guess? Antonio Brown. Zach Wilson. I wish it was Antonio Brown every Tuesday. Hold on, Lee! Because your tweet said most talented player. Is it Patrick Mahomes? It's not Patrick Mahomes, but you're on the right track. Every Tuesday. Josh Allen.

It might be Josh Allen. It might be Josh Allen. It might not. That's good for all of us. That's good for us, too, that you're doing that, by the way. So we are very thankful for that. Thanks, bud. No problem. Listen, any segments we have filled on Good Morning Football with Roger's

segments on this, we just do it basically every single week. It's been amazing, so thank you, because sometimes there's not squat to talk about. Well, believe me, yeah, we just... There's been a lot to not talk about over the last couple... Are you guys live? Are you pre-recorded? When are you going? We'll do some live, some pre-recorded.

Tell me what you think of this, Pat. You've got a keen eye for the media. AJ, you too. I'm going to do a show Monday through Friday for the next month, and then when the games start, I'm gonna do I was gonna I'm gonna do a show Monday through Friday for the next month and then when the games start I'm gonna do a show Sunday night right when the second window of games ends so if you're not into football night in America with all their bugles and pretentiousness come right in here talk about whatever you want we'll recap the games the second day I mean come on man that it's a really well produced show but it's a little pretentious I feel like we're going to go.

Welcome to football Latin America. We start tonight in Ukraine. I feel like I'm watching Tom Brady. It's a lot. A lot of sports. It's fine, but it's a lot. I get it. Where are you going to be live at?

YouTube? Yeah, we should be on all the ESPN digital platforms, ESPN YouTube, and then you can also just get it as a podcast audio only, like wherever you get your podcasts, as they say. That sounds like a good idea. I think when we did the Barstool tailgate show, we were trying to compete with like a kickoff show. Yeah. People's habits, you know what I mean? Like you're going to have to just stick with it because people develop their own habits.

Like going to Football Night in America is literally everybody's move's move right like everybody just goes directly to football night in america so what i'm saying is i think you've got a brilliant idea on sunday i enjoy that i think we'll watch it stick with it though i think everything's consistency right you know that i think everybody knows that god aj you're gonna say something there about sunday night no not about sunday night i think whatever you're going to be doing, Kyle, I'm just curious, is there a set end time or is it just this straight, we get to see Kyle Brandt until you want to go to bed? Oh no, it'll be, you know, it'll be on Sunday nights, man. It's just when the games are over and you sat there for six hours and you ate too much or drank too much. And like, I don't know for you guys, like I don't go on till Monday morning

usually. And I have that thing where I'm like, can't wait 10 hours i have to talk about what i just saw from kyler murray or from dk meccaf or whatever and so you do it immediately and then it's this i could go for three hours if i want i could go for 40 minutes but we're gonna the second the game ends let's talk let's talk shit let's say you drop the ball let's say who needs a whiskey let's say who won the day like just immediately crown people i don't want to wait so. Hey, this is a big fucking deal, Kyle. This isn't just, I thought this was going to be just a couple episodes. Monday through Friday and on Sundays in the fall

is a lot of work. With Good Morning Football, like I know you run hot. You're an energy guy. I can't wait to see more of you, but this is a fucking, you're going to be doing a lot here, Kyle. Let's go.

I appreciate it. And listen, people ask, they're like, I saw the announcement in the Schefter tweet. They're like, oh, my God, you're leaving Good Morning Football. I'm not leaving anything. I'm doing Good Morning Football in the morning and then the afternoon. And, like, you know, Pat, when the opportunities come in,

you can't sit here and say, I don't know, that's too much work. Like, the hell with that. You take them. You say yes. Like, this is the time to say yes. I'm in my prime, I think. Hey, I hate to cut you off. Would you ever go back on?

I know your real-world background. Would you go on a challenge and take on CT? That'd be nice. CT would spit me out, man. Right now? Because you're soft or ever? Always. Maybe always.

I'm strong now. Like, I honestly think that I'm stronger than I was when I was a college football player, but it's the knees and it's the hips. And here's the thing. Anytime I get the itch, because I get it, AJ, sometimes, like, like you see those promos and they'll be like this season on yeah if i ever get the itch to like maybe i can go down there whip some ass and you know like win a saturn or something like whatever they do now like and then i see the promos and i watch these promos and it's like people on black light cameras triple kissing and sucker punching each other. I'm like, I'm out.

I got two kids. I'm sitting around drinking a martini with a little bit of a gut. I'm not going to go on those things and get backpacked. I'm not going to go out. So I am out. Hey, could you imagine Emmy Award winning Good Morning Football host plus daily show host Kyle Grant's basement gets buckled by poopies. Yeah. Post Kyle Grant's basement gets buckled by poopies. Yeah.

That's going to be tough to come back from. Can't do it. How many people are going to be on daily with you? You, your producer staff, ESPN's producing this or Omaha's producing this and sending it to you? It's Omaha, man. It's Omaha. And it's like, look, it's going to be mostly me. It's kind of a short show.

It's only like 45 minutes, hour at the most. So, look, there's been so many shows, and obviously you guys have done it, that have perfected the guys, the crew. It's the guys hanging out. We have not perfected fuck. Well, listen, I was watching one time when one of the boys went to the bathroom, and you timed him to see if he was number one or number two. And I'm like, that's perfection. Like, that's perfection. It was a shit number two.

Yeah, yeah. It was you, Ty. Yeah, I assume so. Diabolical. That was tough. So I'm not going to have, you know, the Kylettes or any of that stuff. It's mostly just me letting it rip. And I got toys to play with, man.

I got all kinds of stuff around here. So it'll be quick. I think it's just going to be me, which is going to be hard. But as you know, for some reason, got the crazy energy I can keep talking. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Kyle, with the addition of McCourty and Jamie, is that kind of what gave you the push to kind of go do more because of the fact that they're so good on there already?

And have you and Schrags kind of felt like you had to pick up the slack or kind of teach them something while you were on there? It's a great question. I appreciate it. This long predates them getting added to the show because, listen, we do crazy stuff on Good Morning Football in the casting sense. Like I didn't even meet Jamie Erdahl until she was cast. There was no chemistry test.

There was no like, oh, let's see how it works. Jason McCourty I barely knew. So they brought in like hit-the hit the ground running professionals like they go and you know this pat like jason's got these great stories like aj you come with like these great packers stories you've got jason's got the brady stories jason's got that i was on the owen 16 brown story like listen we're talking today about this miami dolphins thing with the tampering and we're talking a commercial break and strager turns into mike wallace and he's just like so you know jason you were on that 2019 uh patriots scene that brady was on like

how does it make you feel that it looks like he was looking at other teams and you know he was trying to leave and then he got his ass kicked in the playoff game and played terrible and cost you a playoff bonus how does that make you feel and i'm jason had to take i'm not going to reveal it because he didn't tell me to but my point is he's got all that stuff and he's awesome with it second he got there was his take yeah a player was about to own a fucking team i'm all in he pointed out the merits of ownership at one point yeah yeah i would assume hey shrek stop being a mark dude all right uh teammate of mine was going to be an owner of a goddamn team. Go ahead, Ty Stray.

Kyle, as a massive fan, I don't know if there's any way we can maybe make sure this happens, but is it possible that maybe for one of the episodes in the basement, we can get Romy back in there and kind of recreate some of that jungle magic? I mean, us guys who have been listening for a long time crave it. We love it. And what kind of relationship do you still have with Rome, if any? It's an awesome question. I would love to have Rome down here, especially since you're a clone from back in the day.

Hell yeah. Literally his phrase was, I'm going down to the basement like when he was on vacation. Come down to my basement. Listen, I had my departure with Jim six years ago, I think, when I left to do Good Morning Football, and it was the most beautiful thing ever. We had this poetic final beer and hugged it out, and then when he got to the Hall of Fame, he brought me and shouted me out in his speech.

We don't talk a ton because Jim's about the grind and about the prep and about the work and about the family and just getting the martinis and driving the sled. He does his whole lifestyle. So we don't talk that much, but, like, we ended it beautifully. I mean, I love the guy. Just love him. So I'd love to ask.

Imagine if Jim Rome came on. Pat, have you had Jim Rome on this show? No, same time. He's on the same time. Yeah. Oh, yeah. We talked about him, though. We love him, though.

We were next to him at Radio Row. We show massive respect to Jim Rome, and Jim Rome hears it. I think Jim Rome knows that because. I think so, too. I hope so. Because the whole daily grind, man. Massive respect to Jim Rome, and Jim Rome hears it. I think Jim Rome knows that because – I think so too. I hope so. Because the whole daily grind, man. I mean, you know obviously with Good Morning Football,

and you guys are comparing Greek yogurts to football teams with their – Because there's times there where there ain't shit to talk about. So Jim Rome and all the guys that have been able to do it for years and years and years, I got massive respect for. I like to hear that you guys ended amicably, though. That's how it should be. I've heard about some other people in the industry where their producer leaves

or their writer leaves and they're like, fine, get out of here. You're a competition now. I was worried about that. AJ, jeez. AJ wanted you to ask. Who? Who? Who? There ain't no reason to do that. Tone, your question, please, for Kyle Brandt. Kyle, one of the highest honors in the NFL,

and unfortunately some of us in here never got to be able to get this honor, is receiving the scepter for angry runs. Oh, hell yeah. And because we can't receive that honor, is there anything that we could run through that maybe would impress you enough to maybe send us a scepter one time? put it on the intro I will definitely do it

incidentally it sounds like the guy who got his bathroom trip timed had the angry runs but that's not the kind that we do pretty good Cal Prince Basement on Omaha Productions yeah of course guys like I've given it to a groundskeeper before I've given it to a groundskeeper before. I've given it to a photographer.

Like, I'm kind of tired of giving it to Jonathan Taylor and Derrick Henry all the time. I would love to give it to someone in the media world. Run through the wall. Run over AJ. AJ, are you still ready to tackle? Come on. I'll give it a shot. I think you should run through, like, the glass window right there where the boys are.

Hey, Kyle, I just want to let you know, Kyle. What? AJ could still give you 15 to 20 goal line plays right now. Goal line? Goal line. Yeah, that's why I said goal line. I can't change direction or stop. I know that. He's going straight at it.

And he, by the way, still, Kyle, it looks like it now because he's got a costume. I'm not taking Kyle on. Kyle, look at your – Kyle's got that movie star head and he's jacked. I'm not taking you up high. Kyle, you do have a massive head as does AJ AJ's lying right now though He would go right out to jaw If he could right now if he had to

AJ would be like that forever Him and Bobby Carpenter and Schlegel Still measuring body fat percentage to this day Weekly That is what this fucking guy's doing With that little caliper pincer you're still measuring Body fat Every week look at him look he knows you guys doing a charcoal with that little caliper pincher you're still measuring the body fat yeah

every week look at him look he knows no we gotta no we gotta we invested in a bod pod we always god you remember that they would pinch your fat and then measure it and that was nowhere near real by the way that was nowhere near accurate of course not it was this arbitrary thigh pinch and like how many little heavyset kids were traumatized by that? What a stupid thing we used to do. There's a lot of stupid things that go on, including this show daily, and you're going to join in on that with the Kyle Brandt's Basement. Debuting when? When's it start? Monday, August 8th. It's coming Monday, man, 1.30.

Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. I'll go directly against us. Good luck. Appreciate that. It's unbelievable. Did you think about that? You were going to say, hey, I'll go directly against Pat and the boys? It did occur to me. It's unbelievable. Did you think about that? You were just going to say, hey, I'll go directly against Pat and the boys? It did occur to me. It did occur. It's probably not the wisest, but like you said, Pat, you've got to stay

at it. You've got to stay at it. It doesn't matter. Maybe that's why I'm going Sunday night so I can win one round out of five. No, no, no. Listen, we started at different parts this whole thing. We used to have 15 people watching for a long time, so we were very lucky to still do it. And people watch your content at different times.

It doesn't matter when they see it, how they see it. It's a completely different game. Good luck with everything. Who do you think is going to win the Super Bowl, Kyle? Obviously the Bills because you got Josh every Tuesday. I think the Buffalo Bills are going to win the Super Bowl. I really do. But I said that before I got Josh every Tuesday.

I think, you know what, my short, short, short take on take on the bills if they had literally added no players in the offseason didn't add von miller didn't draft a single player including a punter just added nobody i still think they're the super bowl favorites even without adding a single person and yet they did i think they're loaded loaded as are we in the sports media world now that we get a chance to hear you every single day uh can't wait to watch we'll have to watch after our show yes we we get a chance to hear you every single day. Can't wait to watch. We'll have to watch after our show. Yes. We won't be able

to catch you live. Sure, it'll be great. Kyle Brandt of Good Morning Football and host of Kyle Brandt's Basement debuting on Monday. We appreciate the hell

out of you, pal. Love you, Pat. Love you, AJ. Love you guys. You too, ladies and gentlemen. Kyle Brandt. There you go. There you go.

What a day today. Logan Paul, Matt Money Smith, Sal Capaccio. How was Logan? I didn't get to see Logan. Logan was awesome. He just got done sparring. He forgot he had the interview, and he showed up like three minutes late. Was literally taking a mouthpiece out as he was FaceTiming.

Great conversation. Built to be a WWE superstar is basically the end of the convo. Yeah. Yeah, true. I mean, back on Vine, back in the day, he was doing all the crazy, like, wrestling, like amateur wrestling stuff that you could tell, like, okay, this guy is explosive and athletic.

Him and his brother shut down Vine. Yeah. I mean, the Vine people would never come out and say it, I assume, and the world won't admit it. But as soon as Logan and Jake said, oh, yeah, we'll go right over here. And they said, do it. All right, well, you don't exist anymore. Bang, became YouTube, became the whole thing.

I mean, it's just trailblazers, making a lot of money, doing things their way. I got a lot of respect. He admitted about how he didn't know shit about fuck early and how he hasn't really truly come into who he is since for the last few years of his life and the whole public has watched it. And I think he acknowledged it.

It's a gift and a curse there. But what he has been doing with the WWE, I'm fucking big big fan of big big fan so how often do you have any idea how often he will wrestle no and i was thinking about asking it but i don't know what's gimmick and what's not you know like i don't want to i don't want to put him in a situation you know what i mean feels like a premium live event guy it does yeah i feel like that's the case. But he can go. Like, you know, he can go.

No, that was a compliment. No, I know, but I think like, I don't know, like with how much, how good a shape he's in and how much he can do, like,

I don't, I didn't want him to tell us, like, yeah, I'm going to be there more than people expect because if he was to only be a big show guy, it would make sense.

But also, if he was just fucking show up randomly, it would make sense as well. So I don't know what their plans are with Logan. I didn't want to be the place that, you know, because the K-Fapes that were around here. That's right.

That's right, isn't it? He was good, though. He was great. Feel the Beat was a lot of fun with Matt Money-Smith, Alcabarchio, Matt Schneibin, and then Kyle Brandt with Kyle Brandt's basement debuting next week. What a show today. Awesome show.

We got football tomorrow. It's huge. We got a Hall of Fame game tomorrow, dude. Here we go. Hey, Kyle kind of buried football night in America. He did. Yeah, that was interesting. What did he say?

I mean, he mentioned them talking about Ukraine. Some of the things he said was, I mean, that's probably not false. Yeah, but he's on the ESPNs. So, like, I mean. They're doing that, too. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm happy Kyle Grant will not be. Yeah, right. I'm happy thatPN's, so like, I mean. They're doing that too. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm happy Kyle Brandt will not be. Yeah, right.

I'm happy that he'll be. He'll be jacking weights down there, he said. You mean the ESPYs? Chugging beers. What? Does he have like nine cameras in there following him all around the room then? I don't know. I'm pretty excited to see what happens in the basement.

Is that his actual basement? I don't buy that. It feels like it is. I do. It's a little small. It looks a little small. He lives in New York. Does he live in New York?

No, he lives in New Jersey. Okay, so. It's a beautiful backyard, dude. I've seen his fucking house. It's a little small. He's more into his house. It looks a little small. He lives in New York. Does he live in New York? No, he lives in New Jersey. Okay, so. It's a beautiful backyard, dude. I've seen his fucking house. Where's Josh Allen? He deserves a fucking beautiful house. Yeah. Josh Allen's in Buffalo.

It's a little bit of a hole. He's calling in. What do you think this is? Well, he said sometimes he was going to be in his basement, he said. No, he said some guests will be in the basement. Not every guest. Like, Schrags will be in the basement, probably. Schrags probably lives close, right?

I don't know. It sounds like Schrags has a different interview style than Kyle Brandt does. Yeah. The McCourty thing seems in there. Mike Wallace. What's Schrags trying to do? Huh? He's trying to tear McCourty and break him.

He's trying to embarrass people? It ain't right. What's Schrags doing? What's Schrags doing? He said it. Don't be a fucking Mark, Schrags. Schrags. Don't be a Mark, dude.

Look at Mark. Do you know how happy I would be for one of my teammates if they were potentially going to get ownership In a fucking team If they came up to me And was like Listen to what's fucking cooking Maybe

You know I'm a free agent Next year Because they couldn't Work out a deal here Because they've been Trying to fuck me over For like the last 20 years Or whatever

How about People are telling me Like maybe own a fucking team What Yeah A team's going to give me A percentage of the fucking team We go play for

Who's the team Miami Ah we'd have to play you twice a year. You're still a fucking owner there, dude. This is awesome. I think we would all be pretty excited for our fucking teammate if that was to happen. Yeah, I'd say, oh, okay. Give me a percentage, bud.

I'll come do whatever you want. Hey, pal, are you going to fucking hire me, dude? Director of football operations? You know how cool that would be? I would be, and I guess not every person thinks like this, but I honestly believe team sport people get genuinely happy for their teammates' successes. And whenever business takes place and people are out of the building

and they're handling their business and however it ends up, like, teammates are normally very, very like, hey, you got to do what you got to do. You got to do what you got to do. I think if I found out that a teammate of mine was in discussions i own a fucking team i'd be like here let's go let's make this a new standard and i think a lot of people would feel that way around the nfl even though i guess there's some pundits thinking the opposite i just i haven't even thought about that not being the case but here we are aj i never crossed my mind to think like oh is this guy not focused on this season because

he's he someone told him that he may get to own another team, the Miami Dolphins. And like you said, he's been taking a discount for 20 straight years, and they can't figure it out now when I've been here forever and won so many Super Bowls. Yeah, I never once was like, oh, this guy doesn't like the team here. He's bailing on his guys. Oh, you want to own another team? Why don't you go fucking play for them now? Is that what a teammate...

I guess in a movie, teammates would do that. Like, you're either 100% committed to us or you're nothing. It's like, well, as soon as they start paying me, another team seems to be a bit more committed. A team, it's different at the professional level, I think. That just continues to become the narrative with this show. I think you can't view nfl football as if how you viewed your high school football team and how you viewed high school football

it is just so different it's it's a business there's a lot of money being made and whenever that kind kind of comes into conversation and shelf life and injuries and being fucked over it's just like it's much more than that and i think it should be viewed as such on a regular basis just like this yeah and fans just view it differently too just because they want their team to be good, and if there is the possibility of a player leaving, then that's one thing. But we saw – Yeah, you guys ran him out of town though.

We all know that. Well, I don't know about that. Yeah, Johnny Foxbury. You guys say, hey, Johnny Foxbury, why don't you go ahead and get on two horses, maybe make it three, get a stable, get the fuck out of town. That actually included the contract offer that they offered Tom in that whole entire thing, which was very good. I mean, it's more than he's making in Tampa Bay.

But we talked about it. They talked about this with like Debo and like George Kittle during the whole Debo thing he talked about. And then even Aaron when he talked about Devante, when Devante left to go to the Raiders. Like they're all still friends. You got to do what you got to do. Yeah. You got to do what you got to do. You're getting a fucking team, bro. Answer that text.

What if Tom went up to a teammate and was like, I just got a text from a guy named Bruce Beal. Listen, obviously it stays between us. I just got a text from Bruce Beal. Who the fuck is Bruce Beal? He's the vice president of the Miami Dolphins, successor for the Miami Dolphins. Why is Bruce Beal texting you? He said he wants to give me a part of the Miami Dolphins, the successor for the Miami Dolphins. Okay, why is Bruce Beal texting you?

He said he wants to give me a part of the team. Answer that text. Tom, answer that text, Tom. Right now, Tom. That is, I guess it makes sense, though, that media would think that people would be pissed off at him. But they did lose. Didn't try, didn't he?

Threw a pick six times. Yeah, last throw ever, yeah. Yeah, on purpose, by the way, because he's not going to the Patriots. He wanted the value of the Patriots to go down, and he was not focused at all. And he loves Rabel, so he wanted the Titans to keep going. At this point, too, his legacy means nothing. Once you go out there and fucking just roll the ball in the field,

play like shit. Yeah, that is also why the Elway thing from the 90s is so crazy, because he did get offered a percentage of the Broncos, and he said no. Just like Dan Marino was offered a percentage of Pet Detective. Goddamn. He said, give me the 30 grand. This movie's going to suck.

Fool. Give me 30 grand. That's fool. Fucking send it in. No flubs. Fucking give me my cash. I mean, Dan was in the heart of his career, wasn't he? Why would you ever always take the points? Well, how about the cash straight up if you're going to go have a good time in Miami?

Dan Marino, he's already made millions by then. And probably already spent some, too, if I had to guess. Dan was having a good old time. Dan liked to live. Dan's from the same waters that we are from. And we've heard the story of Dan. Dan liked to enjoy his life. Give me the cash now.

I don't trust that. What's this guy? I thought Jim Carrey was a slapdick. Not a chance. Give me the cash now. I don't trust that. What's this guy? I thought Jim Carrey was a slapdick. Not a chance. Give me $30,000. Dan was like, give me $30,000. Let me name the dolphin. Stuff like that.

All right, let's get out of here. What a day. What a life. What a show. Huge show tomorrow. Big show tomorrow. Hall of Fame show tomorrow, by the way. Yeah, Hall of Fame show. By the way Yeah Hall of Fame show

Real football tomorrow I mean it's not real Real football But it's They're kicking the ball Tackling to the ground NFL helmets Yep

NFL uniforms What NFL refs What NFL coaches What NFL broadcast What

The NFL is 85% back tomorrow. NFL Duke. We've got Duke on the field tomorrow. And, Pat, well, I would assume you would know, like when you get out there and they tackle to the ground for the first time, you get so much more tired. You'll realize that they've been running around camp

and you tag off at the end or you thud up at the end. When you have to go all the way to the ball and get them to the ground, sometimes like you're in the weird habit of chasing the ball and just getting there and tagging off and you realize you're in the game you're dead tired oh wait i actually got to get this guy down now 40 yards down the field also fourth and fifth stringers who have not gotten a lot of reps in practice all of a sudden getting 70 70 plays on defense and there is puking there is dren we're talking about some guys have you know like straw hats on, hot dogs, tennis shoes, just chilling, flipping peanuts in their mouth

or whatever, sunflower seeds. And then there's other guys right next to him puking most exhausted time they've ever had in their entire life. And it's the biggest game of their life. While one guy just chilling, the other guy tapping helmet, tapping helmet. We ain't got a guy. You got to go back out there. I can't. I can't. And that's what the Hall of Fame game's all

about. That's right. Yeah. I'll tell you what, man. Grit. How do you define grit, man? It's toughness. Bro, next Tuesday. Yeah. Let's go. He's awesome. What they're doing right now might be seen on our dogs on Tuesday. Oh, I can't wait.

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