The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 722 - Feel Good Friday With David Lombardi, Ian Rapoport, & AJ Hawk
Episode Date: August 19, 2022On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about last night's preseason game between the Bears and the Seahawks, what we should expect from both teams, if the Bears are going to be better than e...veryone anticipates, some potential dark times on the horizon for all the 12's in Seattle, and the new secondary Monday Night Football booth consisting of Steve Levy, Louis Riddick, and Dan Orlovsky. Joining the progrum to chat about the rumors swirling about whether or not Jimmy G was a good teammate in San Francisco and why that may be why teams aren't all that interested in him is San Francisco 49ers beat writer for The Athletic, David Lombardi (43:04-54:06). Later, NFL Network Insider, Ian Rapoport joins the show from the side of a highway to chat more about Deshaun Watson's suspension and what it means, and anything else we should keep our eyes on this 2nd week of the NFL preseason (1:14:23-1:22:49). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show, and listen on Sirius XM Channel 82, Mad Dog Radio. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Transcript
Discussion (0)
Hello, beautiful people. It is Feel Good Friday, August 19th, 2022, and this sports show that stinks begins now.
Here we go, baby.
What a day, what a day. That was the Toxic Table and one half of the Hammer.
Done.
Cowboys tone digs. The Toxic Table is at Boston Corner at Ty Schmidt.
All the boys in the back, I appreciate you. What a week it has been.
Obviously, we're at training camp,
and we've had incredible conversations
with so many people.
Today will be another example of that.
Hell yeah.
Dana White will join us in the third hour
to chit-chat about this weekend's UFC 278.
Usman.
And Leon Edwards.
Edwards.
Two.
Two.
I'm a little bummed that we haven't talked to Usman this week,
but I think he's been in the middle of training.
I love that man.
Every time he's come on this show,
first time he was too electric, put the power out in our entire city.
He was awesome.
Second time he came on, just chit-chatting about who he is, how he is,
what he is.
I love that man.
He's been playing heel a little bit on the internet.
Oh, yeah.
Hollywood Usman walking around, some great costumes, great outfits, the
pine for pine champ
said, you know, I'm not just fighting the technicalities
of Leon Edwards. And he might have got better
over the last eight years. I'm fighting
this man's fucking heart and soul.
We'll see who will break, who
won't. I got Oosman. Can't wait to talk
to Dana about that. Dana also had
a hilariously
epic internet viral interview moment
yes time
fuck that scumbag journalist i believe is exactly yes fucking excited to get his thoughts on it
right excited to get his thoughts on that entire thing and everything else going on ian rapaport
will join us in the second hour for the weekly wrap-up with Rap Sheet and Friends.
Us being the friends, he being Rap Sheet.
AJ Hawk will join us.
Today's a great day because we got football to react to.
Last night, the Bears absolutely fucking dusted the Seahawks.
Preseason, let's not overreact.
Everybody relax.
It's just preseason football, okay?
Seahawks fucking suck, dude.
Now, now, now, now, we have to be clear.
DK Metcalf, with every interview he does,
I like him more. I love everything
he's about. Seems like he's his own individual.
Got paid $57 million in guarantees.
When he's on a field for more than three plays,
let's assume defenses will play differently.
When Ty Lockett
is on the field, let's assume
for more than three plays, let's assume defenses
will play differently. This is just like the Colts not having Jonathan Taylor on the field
against the Buffalo Bills.
It's hard to judge how teams actually are.
Whenever your star players, your five stars, your game changers,
game wreckers are not on the field because that changes everything.
With that being said, Pete Carroll went to bed last night going,
oh, fuck my dude, dude.
He's still running a pretty good clip.
His gated halftime running into the locker room was rather fantastic.
Knee drive, not so much anymore.
It's more of a lumber, but Pete Carroll can still move faster than anybody in this room
currently.
So he is a young 70-plus-year-old, whatever it is.
But it's almost like whenever you lose 17 Pro Bowls between Bobby Wagner and Russell
Wilson, there's a chance that not only leadership is going to lack,
but that team might be in the middle of turnover trying to find a new identity.
Geno Smith got a lot of burn because Drew Locke got COVID.
COVID's still a thing, by the way.
Okay, good to know.
Drew Locke very sick from COVID, is what Pete Carroll said.
So he got that strain, the OG one maybe, the old one-niner that kind of took him out.
I experienced a dance with one-niner.
I was vaxxed, got immunized, I think, through getting one-niner. Got it again, did not get one-niner that kind of took him out. I experienced a dance with one-niner. I was vaxxed, got immunized, I think, through getting one-niner.
Got it again, did not get one-niner.
Got another basic-ass, bitch-ass one.
So there's different strains.
I guess Drew Locke did get the pretty heavy one.
He'll be back.
He had to watch that game go, probably still started.
Probably still started here.
Even though Orlovsky's entire conversation yesterday was,
feels like Seattle wants Drew Locke to start,
well, they would want the person to start that they probably think is the better quarterback.
Now, Dan Orlovsky was kind of alluding to the fact that they feel like
they've already experienced the Geno Smith experience.
Now let's go ahead and do Drew Locke.
Geno, who I think, you know, just literally a matter of inches away
from a much different evening last night, will be judged by this
because he's been in the league for 10 years,
so there's a lot of film out on Geno
and how come Geno hasn't stuck and been the starter some places.
You start looking back at where he was at the time
and the situations they were.
I'm sure Geno Smith's people will make a lot of excuses
for why it didn't work out.
And by the way, 10 years in the NFL,
maybe it did fucking work out for old Geno Smith.
But there's obviously a third down on the first drive
where if that guy catches where Geno Smith. But there's obviously a third down on the first drive where if that guy catches
where Geno throws a perfect ball over the linebacker in between safety and corner,
and the guy, it literally hits him right in the arms.
He drops it.
They have to punt it.
You know, they make that there.
That's a massive play, probably a momentum roller.
Geno gets going.
Obviously, tripping over a running back.
If his foot's just like that much higher, he's not tripping over a running back
on third down, embarrasses himself, falling down falling down i mean there's like a couple different situations
that if they go differently we're probably singing a much different tune about this entire seahawks
team instead the conversation is jacob eason he's the only one who was really able to score any
points he under hit but he was very close there on the final drive and the chicago bears might
not be as big of a clusterfuck as we potentially think. Now, it was a Seahawks team.
Those little things we just talked about did not
go the Seahawks way at all.
They didn't play their two stars. It is
preseason football, but at Viva
Lazzito, good for the Bears.
The Bears had a hell of a
night last night. Justin Fields looked good.
I think there was a couple plays he made where you're like, oh, that'll
translate into regular season football.
A couple plays he made that you're like, well, that's probably going the other way if it's a regular season. Looks like there was development. Looks like there was a couple plays he made where you're like, oh, that'll translate into regular season football. A couple plays he made that you're like, well,
that's probably going the other way if it's a regular season.
Looks like there was development.
Looks like there was some growth.
Getsy seems to be having a good time.
Simeon's got a rebirth.
He's running 4-2.
Try the Simeons outrunning people.
I'm watching Simeon run.
I'm like, oh, he's going to get caught and get bodied.
Nope.
Not a chance.
Making throws.
Good for the Bears last night in the Iberflues era.
Ryan Poles got a lot of air time, had the AirPods in.
What's your big takeaway from last night at Viva Lozito?
Massive, blind supporter of the Chicago Bears.
Special teams.
I think we forgot special teams there, too.
Absolutely amazing.
Yeah, you get a touchdown on a punt.
I mean, that is best play in football.
And Gil, your punter.
Trent Gil.
Where did he go to school?
NC State, I believe.
He packed. He bombs the ball. He sits
back and he's bombing them.
Pat O'Donnell,
your former trader, is now with the
Green Bay Packers. I think he probably cut him or didn't sign
him, so he's forced to go work somewhere else.
So maybe you guys should just turn your backs on
a guy that was there for a long time as opposed
to him looking for... He's a much
different punter
than gill was he's just a like um almost like seven iron grooving he's just going to groove
punts not going to get a lot of ooze and ahs but i always thought he was doing that because it was
chicago with how windy it is the nfc north it's not easy just to sit back and tag balls and those
jk scott experience that right a lot of people. You can't just sit back and bomb balls in bad weather
places. He sat back and
bombed balls. And I'm like, if he can
do this on a consistent thing,
Chicago's going to fall in love with that guy because it looks
like the defense, if you can figure out Roquan now,
Ryan Polis told Dan Orlovsky,
Louis Riddick, and the boys that
Roquan Smith's a good player.
He's a good player. It didn't say great player.
It didn't say the best player we've had over the last five years or whatever.
Led the Chicago Bears in tackles the last four seasons.
His head up his end of the bargain.
He was on the sidelines, so he made the trip to Seattle.
That's a long fucking flight to fly with the team
if you're not going to be a part of it for the long haul.
He's not playing, so that's a little bit different.
But you've got to be happy, Viva Lazzito.
Very happy.
The Bears looked like a team with some...
Disciplined as well. Yeah, they didn't look like
an inept squad. Don't you think?
Don't you think last night, Zito?
For having as many rookies and new players on the team,
I think there was only three penalties
for 28 yards as well or something like that.
That's unheard of. It's always off sides
for the Bears, even under
Nagy. It was literally 90 to 100
yards of penalties.
But now I haven't seen many penalties the last couple games.
He ever flew this big accountability guy that's familiar with the Colts?
They say, hey, he'll come in and he'll fucking set the culture.
Connor, you're not a believer in either of those teams last night, huh?
That game stunk, you said?
No, not at all.
I mean, I think the big worry for Fields is the offensive line
was worse than Dan Orlovsky's mentions last night.
They have a lot of problems.
Fields is moving around a lot.
Granted, he made some unbelievable throws while he was moving around,
but there's no one that you can say on Seattle's D-line,
like, oh, yeah, I know who that is.
That's a guy where you look at the AFC North,
not even the other games they're playing.
Packers have an unbelievable D-line.
NFC North, somebody's going to say this guy doesn't even know.
Excuse me, I apologize.
I was thinking they're also playing the AFC East.
A lot of good D-lines in that
division as well. We'll see what happens
but fields look great.
Yeah! Bears win!
Bears win. Seahawks look terrible.
Very bad. They look very, very bad.
Now, Seahawks
fans turned. There's a
beautiful video of a lady on my Instagram
account that Gumpy posted up there of her booing the team.
Yeah.
Just sick of it.
She's done.
I wondered this.
You know, the 12s up there have been a storyline for the Seattle Seahawks for a long time.
Yeah.
Ever since the new stadium came in.
Yeah.
Hey, this is the loudest stadium in all of sport.
The 12s go bananas.
Get the most false starts in the league.
Ever.
Impossible to play up there.
There's a lot going on in Seattle, right?
They can save the world.
They got a lot of other stuff going on in Seattle, right?
The XFL season.
The XFL's starting up.
They got a squad.
Sounders look good this year.
Sounders look great.
I mean, I don't know if they're going to travel up to the Portland Timbers, but I mean.
Maybe an NBA franchise.
The Kraken.
Kraken are crushing.
Kraken are there.
I mean, I know they're great sports fans up there in the Pacific Northwest,
but I think they've been great sports fans specifically
because they've had a team that's been in it every single year.
What's going to happen to that stadium if they have one, two, three?
Four.
Five.
What's going to happen?
They've got to turn that around.
They know that, right?
Pete Carroll's not waiting around forever either. I mean, there's no way Pete Carroll's going to go out on a dud, right, four. What's going to happen? They've got to turn that around. They know that, right? Pete Carroll's not waiting around forever either.
I mean, there's no way Pete Carroll's going to go out on a dud, right?
No.
They're going to have to do something.
And if you're Jimmy G, you're watching that game last night,
are you going, yeah, I want to go see how the Seahawks.
Now, once again, DK Metcalf and Lockett changed the game completely.
And we're overreacting to preseason.
But they looked bad last night.
I mean, it was no fun i assume for
any seahawks fan to watch well and that's why you mentioned pete carroll and obviously they're not
very few teams especially teams who have been good for the last you know decade or whatever
aren't just going to come out and say like yeah we're we're in full rebuild mode now you know
like the teams that fucking stink do that because no one cares anyway but do you think i mean pete
carroll was the one who was saying you know after, like, hey, we're just going to reload. Do you think in his
mind, like, he had realistic
expectations? Because you're right.
We don't know what's going to happen. It's preseason. We don't know what's
going to happen, but this team
is much worse this year than they were
last year. Like, that's just the way it is, and they didn't make the playoffs
last year. NFC West is real easy, too.
Yeah, exactly. I mean, it is a really
easy go. I'm fascinated by it all.
Go ahead, Tone. Yeah. Metcalf, Lockett, not in. Okay. Game it is a really easy go. I'm fascinated by it all. Go ahead, Tone.
Yeah.
Metcalf, Lockett, not in.
Okay.
Game changers.
Game changers.
Game wreckers.
Defense have to play different whenever those two are on the field.
Sure.
But when the Bears were only playing their starters six to ten plays,
Geno Smith has played four quarters now this preseason and has scored 10 points, scored zero last night.
That's got to be alarming if that's going to be your starting quarterback.
Remember, Daniel Lovesky said they're thinking about Drew Luck.
Now, we'll figure out what – because when Cam got a one-niner,
when he went up to the Patriots, he was not the same after our chatter.
Drew Luck, who know how he's going to bounce back after a one-niner,
maybe the lungs, maybe a little mental fog.
We hope not.
But, I mean, this is a is a that was alarmingly bad last night they want Drew Locke
to be their quarterback right because I think you kind of know Geno Smith's ceiling and you
maybe don't know Drew Locke's yet he's still super young and maybe change the senior real change I
assume that's why they want Drew Locke to come in and win that job right are you thinking what
I'm thinking maybe what no maybe Mason Rudolph. Maybe. Mason Rudolph. Rudolph to Seattle.
Mason Rudolph.
Now we're talking.
Being a Seattle Seahawks.
That's as far away
as you can get
from Pittsburgh,
so yeah.
With Jacob Eason.
That's how you make sure
the 12s fucking stay
coming to the stadium.
Absolutely.
I've said some things
about Mason,
but I think he starts
over those two.
I mean,
Drew Locke.
Once again,
we have preseason game.
Drew Locke in practice is slinging it.
Make all throws.
Has he been taking the first team reps,
and Geno hasn't been getting first team reps?
Maybe was that second team reps when Geno and the running back
weren't on the same page?
You know, that just seems like Geno was just like this much off
on a couple different situations where the momentum probably
goes a completely different way, but instead
they had to sit through that whole thing. The under
hit last night, Tone. Huge. Yes, it did.
Sweat. I mean, one third.
Alright, so I'm sleeping. Obviously, I
fall asleep during that game because it was terrible.
I tried my best because it was
NFL football. I'm going to have to retrain
my body to survive these primetime games,
by the way. I'm starting to realize.
Because with the offseason, I've been, you know, maybe passing out a little bit, doing this whole thing.
We've got to get back in here to not be an old fucks and being able to survive through the entire game.
I'm talking to me right now.
1130.
Condensed games.
Wake up in the morning.
Yeah, but condensed games don't have special teams in there.
They don't have the punts in there.
They don't have the flow of the game in there.
You know, I enjoy watching the games because I enjoy the flow because I think you really
learn a little bit more about the teams
whenever you're kind of experiencing the games
with them. So I like watching entirety of games.
Now, not possible. Can't watch
every game. And I'm going to learn that week one. I'm going to be
trying to watch every fucking game and I'm going to realize
I'm really only watching like three of these games
and only getting the highlights of those other games.
So maybe I could watch the 45 minute clips to do that on NFL Plus,
which is awesome.
But I've got to get back into the flow of watching.
I've passed out.
I apologize.
It was 23-0, I think, at the time whenever I fell asleep.
I forget what it was.
I wake up at like 8 left on the clock,
and the only thing I bet was the under last night
because in the first week of preseason, how many overs hit?
14-3. 14 and three.
14 and three.
So that just immediately makes me go, oh, so it's next week.
It's going to be a defense.
It's going to be defense dominated.
I'm not sure if we're – like if that's still my go-to
after what happened last night.
Jacob Eason won 37 through a touchdown, challenge overturned
because you challenge every scoring play.
There was two other plays where they were in as well.
And had a fourth um
in four or fourth and goal from the four to win that any of those that happened including the
touchdown that was ruled on the field as soon as i opened my eyes from my nap i see the over it and
i go oh this how this year's gonna be like literally i was sleeping i wake up i look at the
screen 138 137 touchdown let me look at the score. Oh, fucking come on.
When did they score 11 already?
And then bang, the overhits right there.
Then challenge happens.
It gets overturned, which I think watching it back here
with a little clearer state of mind this morning,
that should have never been ruled a touchdown.
I guess it's preseason for everybody.
But all of a sudden, I'm like, hold on.
Have I been touched by the gods this year?
Have I been touched by the gods this year?
Have I been touched by the gambling gods this year?
Because normally, like last year, that happens.
That's the touchdown.
They're actually going for two, two-point conversion,
and they're just hammering home everything.
And then probably the kickoff is a shank off a guy's chest.
That guy's running back to score a touchdown. And then, like, the over ends up being nowhere near it.
That's what happened last year for a good portion of the year.
It felt like as I was gambling.
This year with that thing happening, I feel like I might be touched by a Godstone.
And honestly, hammer, done.
I'm ready to go.
So last year it was 14-3 to the unders through the first week.
So they made an adjustment this year at the Sportsbook.
All the totals last week were like 32 or lower, 33 or lower.
Week two now, the lowest is 36.
You've got 36 and all higher totals.
So you could see some undies here in week two.
Got three games today.
The Panthers are taking on the Patriots.
They've had joint practices.
That has gotten chippy.
The Panthers will not be playing Baker Mayfield,
who allegedly will be the starter going into the year,
or Sam Darnold.
Instead, it will be P.J. Walker in the first and third quarters and Matt Corral, the rookie out of Ole Miss,
in the second and fourth quarters.
He will be taking on Mack Jones, who will be playing.
Yeah, apparently a lot of the Patriots stars,
if not all of them on offense and defense,
will play at least one series.
You see, Tyne Diggs, that's literally the only research he's currently doing for preseason games. We like the Patriots in, if not all of them on offense and defense, will play at least one series. You see, Tyon Diggs, that's literally the only research
he's currently doing for preseason games.
We like the Patriots in that game. 100%.
Although, P.J. Walker is a
great preseason football
quarterback to have on your roster, not only because he's
good, he can move. Corral allegedly
can move as well. Joint practices all
week, so I guess Baker and Darnold have gotten a lot
of looks with the Patriots defense,
keeping them safe for the game.
We don't know why Matt Rule isn't playing either of those two.
I mean, conspiracy people could be like, is PJ going to be number two?
And they're trying to figure out, are they trying to do that entire thing?
Is that what's going on right now?
We will keep an eye on that entire situation
and probably call Sheena quick to see what's going on.
But Mack Jones and the Patri Patriots and that's Bill
Belichick Matt Patricia Joe Judge and Mac Jones playing against Panthers all week let's assume
they're gonna have a pretty good plan yeah and a lot of depth and a lot of speed on the Patriots
D-line so PJ Walker and Matt Corral great athletes but I think you know they match up pretty well up
front with those kind of mobile quarterbacks so I don't get to watch Hammer Downs on Friday because
I'm normally on a plane.
I assume we're going with the Patriots there.
Five is a lot.
A lot of points.
It's up to six now.
It was three yesterday.
Patriots were minus three yesterday.
Corral had a rough preseason week one,
which you'll expect from normal rookies.
He was one of nine.
Pinkett.
Pinkett.
What?
Oh.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay. Normal rookie. Right. Basic-ass Matt Corral rookie. against the what? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
I forget.
Normal rookie.
Right.
Basic ass Matt Corral rookie.
Exactly.
Yeah, yeah. Not 13 and 15.
Best preseason debut
of all time.
It's not what we're
talking about right now.
That was, right?
The best preseason debut
of all time?
Statistically, yes.
And game winning drive.
Yeah.
Your team's there.
Place goes bananas.
I mean, the best start
of all time, potentially.
Potentially.
It was against the team we were just talking about who played last night.
So you're going to have Mack and then Hoyer if he plays a little bit.
Bailey Zappi, what, was like 27 of 35?
Oh, my God.
The Seahawks fucking stink.
Their fans have to be so miserable.
Yeah.
They're just absolutely miserable with what's going on.
I hope they continue to show up over there.
Go ahead.
Six is a lot, though.
Six is a lot.
But I think what we saw last week is Bailey Zappi could hold on to a lead
or build on to it.
Yeah, Zappi was slinging.
He threw the ball, what, 40 times or something like that.
Yeah.
Then there's Saints at Packers happening this evening.
Aaron's not playing.
No.
Jordan Love's playing.
Yes.
How was Jordan Love in week one?
I think he threw three picks if you looked at it,
but I think it goes back to what Rogers was saying.
The receivers were making a lot of mistakes and stuff like that.
Oh, so Aaron actually might have been most upset
that those receivers were fucking over Jordan Love.
The quote that we talked about yesterday and that everyone was talking about
obviously got a lot of the headlines, but yeah, if you expand it on it,
that's basically what he said. He's like, it's really unfair to characterize what Jordan did, and a lot of people will because but yeah, if you expand it on it, that's basically what he said.
He's like, it's really unfair to characterize what Jordan did, and a lot of people will because they'll look at the stat sheet.
But he was like, none of those turnovers were his fault, essentially.
One was a drop.
Look at Aaron though.
Right on the numbers.
So Aaron being a great teammate in the same quote, and I did not see the entirety of the quote there,
to Jordan Love, a person who everybody would assume that he would absolutely fucking hate because the whole situation he was he was being great teammate
jordan love although he was potentially saying something publicly that myself and a lot of others
like hey you need to that should be behind closed doors i think is the proper way to handle it but
then as i started morphing and looking into it i feel like he feels like he's a coach this year
yeah yeah i don't like the videos that are
coming out of training camp and maybe this has happened all the time it's just never shown because
you know the narrative about him was he doesn't care about anybody but himself he's a fucking
asshole that's always been the narrative so maybe these videos didn't make it out him like directing
corners and like like that video was a big deal because maybe it's the first time somebody's come
up to him and asked and maybe it's him feeling obligated to do so but
that motherfucker with the wealth of knowledge he has wanting to give back to his team like i think
that is awesome and the fact that he stood up for jordan love almost while doing that whole thing
not a lot of conversation happening about that we fucked that up as well i did as well
that's big time that's big news so we like the saints tonight yeah potentially i mean they were
bad last week everybody jordo Whoa, whoa, everybody.
Jordo's pretty good.
And then Danny Etling, ex-Patriot, came in and played really well for the Packers last week.
But I don't think James is kind of coming off an injury.
I don't know if he's going to play tonight.
There's not a lot of good work.
Probably Ian Book again, I assume.
Packers are minus three.
Ian Book's not great in the NFL.
No, he was not great last week either. It's Andy Dalton, and then probably going to be Ian Book for a long time.
So I lean back there. Andy Dalton? How much is Andy Dalton playing? Probably not either. It's Andy Dalton, and they're probably going to be eating book for a long time. So I lean back there.
Andy Dalton?
How much is Andy Dalton playing?
Probably not much.
He's a vet, right?
Yeah, but maybe Dalton says, hey, I want three quarters.
Maybe.
Yeah, I know.
But we went through that song and dance with Geno last night.
And that was not good.
You're saying Andy Dalton.
Go back and look at the fucking record books for Andy Dalton.
No, no, no.
Geno Smith, West Virginia guy.
I got nothing to add.
Look at his record books and look at the team he played versus the Packers team that Andy Dalton's going to play.
It's basically even and out.
Andy Dalton won 11 games like five, six straight years.
Yes.
Yeah.
A long time ago.
It still happened.
That was five, six years ago.
Yeah, but you're just saying like, no, I don't think.
It was like three years ago, wasn't it?
2014, 2015?
Bengals didn't win 11 games.
Oh, yeah.
And he got traded on his birthday.
Yeah.
And he got knocked out in his O-line.
Didn't have his back.
Back in Dallas.
And the Bears last year.
And the Bears were what the Bears were.
I mean, I just don't want to jump the gun.
Andy Dillon's a great player. Yeah, but I'm just saying you just. I mean, I just don't want to jump Andy Dolan's a great player.
Yeah, but I'm just saying
you just, I think
Geno Smith, 10-year quarterback
great run.
West Virginia, let's go, pal.
Last night got unlucky.
A couple things.
Yes.
I think you're being very disrespectful
to Andy Dolan's accomplishments
in the NFL
like a lot of people are
whenever you're just
with a guy.
I like Geno.
But just doing that
I think is pretty fucked up.
I'd just like to let you know that. And you just kind of let that fly out of Geno. But just doing that, I think, is pretty fucked up. I'd just like to let you know that.
And you just kind of let that fly out of your mouth.
And you need to, I think, reassess Andy Dalton's stature
in how you remember his NFL career personally.
Absolutely.
Can't just remember him from getting knocked out in Dallas
and nobody else seeing his head roll around on the turf.
Can't just judge him off of the Chicago Bears stuff
where I don't think they gained a yard or two whenever he was there.
No, for a while.
But nobody did.
I mean, I think they scored zero points
for 45 straight quarters.
I mean, we can't judge that. We can't judge
the end of his Bengals thing. No. I'm just, you gotta
look into the entirety of his
Rolodex of NFL memories.
Yeah, and if we were talking about it,
for sure, when I'm looking at Packers minus
three against the Saints tonight, I'm
not thinking about Andy Dalton six years ago.
I'm thinking about Andy Dalton we've seen the past three years.
And, yeah, I'm betting against him.
Sorry.
Jeez.
Andy Dalton does not deserve any of this.
No, he doesn't.
I mean, we just talked about Aaron Rodgers helping Jordan Love.
Do I want the quarterback who's being helped by the back-to-back MVP
probably looking at his third in a row?
Or do I want the quarterback who's been three years in a row kind of bad?
I'm taking the Aaron Rodgers guy.
Yeah, but Andy Dalton, at least you're not taking Aaron Rod kind of bad. I'm taking the Aaron Rodgers guy. Yeah, but Andy, don't.
At least you're not taking Aaron Rodgers.
No, I'm taking the guy.
That was wild that you just started.
You linked Aaron Rodgers into this.
I mean, Rodgers has come out and said this year kind of comparing
the Favre-Rodgers situation to the Rodgers-Love situation.
You mentioned him being a mentor.
It seems like he's passing on more knowledge this year than he ever has before i agree i'm on your side and water receivers gonna run the right
routes too right well they better exactly they got a fire lit under their ass and granted the saints
and defense is deep right yeah i don't know how many of those guys those guys want to play
week three so i don't know how many of them are gonna be playing but is it deep is it a deep
roster yeah i mean i'd say fairly the defense is definitely the strength of their team.
By the way, there's a chance Dalton goes for 400 yards tonight.
Absolutely.
And also –
Well, we've been saying it every game.
He has played, though, for the last three years.
Yeah, he's got a chance.
So that is what you were talking about, basically.
Yeah, and the Saints wide receivers, I doubt,
play as long as the Packers, you know, first defense,
just because Michael Thomas injury, Jarvis Landry, vet, proven,
doesn't really need to do anything. All right, so we got the Packers. We know, first defense just because Michael Thomas injury, Jarvis Landry, vet, proven, doesn't really need to do anything.
All right, so we got the Packers.
We got the Patriots.
Minus six is a lot.
Love you, Andy Dalton, by the way.
No, you don't.
Just want to throw that out there.
I love Andy. Actually, you took your Boston dong out and pissed on Andy Dalton's entire legacy.
Look, Andy's great, but the last time he lit anything up
was when he was slinging that ball around his backyard in that video.
Do you remember how good that was?
Kind of a small side yard. It was a side yard.
Remember, we were giving heads up that that was just
a side yard. He was actually trying to
replicate the Bengals training facility
at that time. Exactly.
But he was going to be a cowboy at that time.
Yeah, you're right. Just what did he know?
Small, little, tiny, little baby thing.
And in the last game, obviously, everybody's going to have eyes on this.
Texans-Rams.
Yeah.
Okay.
Texans-Rams, 10-0-1 Eastern, late-night game, 7-0-1 local time.
That's prime time over there in L.A.
Uh-huh.
Hey, listen, all of Los Angeles is going to come out for this game, right?
Every one of them.
Definitely.
And everybody is going to love to come out and watch their Rams, their Super Bowl champions.
That's right.
They're going to get to SoFi Stadium with an LED board,
the host of WrestleMania coming up.
Everybody's going to be flocking.
It's going to be a tough atmosphere for Dougie Davis Mills,
but he was born for this.
How much time is Dougie Davis Mills playing tonight?
So, Lovey said a little bit more than game one.
I think he only got a drive in game one.
So, maybe a quarter for Davey Mills.
And then you got Kyle Allen, former Panthers and football team quarterback
who had COVID last week.
I think he's back now.
Going up against the Wolf.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, and they got another guy, a quarterback.
Not just any other guy.
Bryce Perkins is a preseason hero quarterback.
This is Rams?
Yeah, he's a runner.
He's a superstar.
Yeah, superstar preseason quarterback.
He's a thrower.
He's a runner. He's pretty. Superstar. Yeah, superstar preseason quarterback. He's a thrower. He's a guy you know.
Dirty just walked in here.
He's a big-time Rams fan.
Rams never play starters.
Dirty, do you know anything about this Rams team this year,
or are you guys just banking on last year's team carrying into this year, Dirty?
It's probably a lot of last year's team and some of the new additions.
We got a lot of depth this year in the secondary.
Trying to build up the line a little bit.
See, the thing is, Dirty needs to be playing for the fucking Rams.
Especially tonight in the preseason game.
Dirty, how do you feel about the Rams tonight as they take on the Texans,
which are obviously in the middle of a massive rebuild?
I feel pretty confident right now.
Not really worried about it because I think there's a bunch of position battles going on right now.
Especially in the secondary.
We drafted a lot of guys.
For the Rams?
Yeah.
Caught dirty in the middle of a meal.
We do apologize for that.
So we like the Rams here, I think.
I think we all like the Rams, probably.
Yeah, in game one, Bryce Perkins played the entire game,
so I wouldn't be shocked if he does that again.
And he's a runner, too.
I mean, primetime Doug.
I mean, you got this one. I think I'm going to stay away from this one. And he's a runner, too. I mean. Primetime Doug. I mean, you got this one.
I think I'm going to stay away from this one.
This one's too tough.
We're betting all the games.
What are we even talking about?
Look for the Wolf to score on every possession he has.
I don't know if he's playing.
Has his neck been fixed?
I think that's the last time we saw him.
And they had to, yes, surgically take four feet out of his neck
because it was stretched out that much.
And he's back.
What was his name again?
John Wolford. I thought it was John. that much, and he's back. What was his name again? John Wolford.
I thought it was dog.
Dog.
Yeah.
Hungry like the wolf.
He started over Jared Goff, who is getting paid $30 million in Detroit right now
to be the starting quarterback.
Yeah.
I said Goff couldn't throw, and he came in and threw.
So Matthew Stafford, is he warming up?
He going full pads, clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose tonight?
Okay.
Sean McVay said the wolf will go for the first half.
Okay.
So we like the Rams.
What do you mean stay away from anything? You got
the Wolf, the guy who defied odds
and he got his neck all the way back.
Dougie Mills. So we like the Patriots,
we like the Packers, and we like the Rams.
Boom! Let's do it. That's the first time I've ever done
that left-handed. Happy to have it. That means
it's definitely going to hit. Great omen. And this is
the gambling gods blessing me last night when I
woke up and saw the 137 left on the clock.
And they said, hey, this is what?
And I said, don't worry about it, dude.
Go back to sleep.
I said, thank you.
That's two for two.
And I think tonight we go three for three.
Hell yeah.
Yeah, and because of that and what happened with you last night,
I've taken every under in all three of these games,
even though I hate taking unders.
No, see, that's the thing, though.
I feel like that was a warning shot, don't you think, from the gambling gods?
Like, hey, you were dancing a little bit too hard on the,
oh, it's going to go under, it's going to go under.
This is like a – we could have easily – the gambling gods are like,
we could have – hey, just like that.
Yeah.
Right there, could have done it.
And then the next play, literally the next play, could have had you right there.
Be careful.
The Rams scored 30 on their own last week.
Yeah, does joint practices do anything for this?
Like the fact that they have been around the team
and seen the offense for the past
couple days, does that change anything when you were playing
at least? We played the Bears
in joint practice the only time we ever did it
and I, this is going to be
tough to think
about, but I don't remember a single minute
of that preseason. Yeah, fair. Not a single
one. I try to think
back to like
any preseason games I remember.
The only one I remember, Cincinnati Bengals, when I got flipped by a guy.
It was on hard knocks.
He made the team because of it.
There you go.
I felt like, hey, congrats, pal.
Happy you made a job.
That's really the only preseason game I can recall vividly and be like,
this is what happened.
Preseason games are just such a like, oh, let's get rid of these memories
so that we can have other ones come in there.
And that's how we have to think about these games whenever we say like
Seattle's trash and Seattle's dead and the Bears are good
because there's plenty of preseason Super Bowl champions.
Oh, yeah.
And there are plenty of preseason terrible teams that somehow find their way.
But last night, nobody will say the Seahawks look good.
What will we learn tonight?
Who knows?
Who's going to be calling plays for the Patriots?
Probably in rotating cast again.
Probably all three of them.
Is that good for football?
Is that good for the team?
Does Bill Belichick even care about the New England Patriots anymore?
I don't know.
The Packers, what will we learn about them?
Nothing. No, probably not. Actually
nothing in that second game. Saints, Packers,
there will be nothing to learn. Maybe
special teams again. See how special teams
is. Rich Passaccia's got things going
a little bit differently. We'll see how Pat
O'Donnell looks. Outside of that, nothing.
Nothing matters in that game. And then the Texans
Rams matter because the Texans
starters. By the way, the Rams went-Rams matter because the Texans...
Doggy will play a little bit.
Starters.
Yeah.
By the way, the Rams went 0-3 in the preseason last year.
They won the Super Bowl.
Oh, yeah, they're Super Bowl champs.
Yeah.
Wines went undefeated.
And tonight we're betting on them.
All right, let's get to a break.
They won week one.
Yeah, they won last year.
Oh, so they're not winning the Super Bowl this year.
Oh, that's a shame.
Well said.
Sorry about it, Dirty.
I mean, who knows if they make the playoffs this year.
NFC West is going to be a problem.
Especially with that Seahawks team.
It's kind of finding its way. That's right.
Trey Lance. They look good.
One thing we know about that division is Kyler Murray ain't watching film
leading up to the game. Alright, let's
address it. Let's do it.
It was Dan Orlovsky's birthday yesterday.
Yeah, that birthday day.
Ty,
your thoughts on Dan Orlovsky's debut yesterday. Yeah, that birthday day. That birthday day. Hey, birthday Dan-o. Ty, your thoughts on Dan Orlovsky's debut in the Monday?
By the way, it had to cost, what, another maybe $2,000, $5,000, $10,000?
Who knows?
To just add on a Thursday for all the graphics.
You know, because at one point on the screen,
they had Monday Night Football countdown, ESPN Monday Night Football.
Then on the ticker was ESPN Monday Night Football.
And it's like, could we not just have this be like a Monday Night Football on Thursday?
Yeah.
You know, like an easy.
Please.
That's just an easy thing I thought to add on there. And that's me judging them being cheapskates or lazy and not wanting to do it.
So that's on me for being an asshole.
And the first time i turned it on
there was monday night football on three different times on the screen at the same time it was like
top of the screen monday night football background monday night football bottom monday night football
i couldn't you have easily just turned it into monday night football on a thursday like
like i think two seconds just i think you could have made it a little bit different but
obviously they got much bigger things to worry about. RG3 was on the cast.
Yep.
I didn't know that was happening.
Yeah, he replaced Randy Moss.
Randy Moss is not going to be there.
I believe so.
Yeah, I believe RG3 is replacing Randy Moss for Monday Night Countdown.
What is Randy Moss doing?
I wonder if he's just doing the Sunday show now.
Okay, so he said Sunday, Monday too much for me.
Potentially.
I don't know for sure, but I read online that RG3
is replacing Randy Moss
for Monday Night Countdown. I would like to let everybody know
that I've gotten a chance to meet RG3.
He's very nice to me.
That's going to be a massive
loss to Monday Night Football.
Randy was the fucking guy.
He was starting to get a little bit more comfortable and more comfortable
and more comfortable. They were starting to let him do whatever the fuck
he wanted to do. You got Moss got mossed was the best segment they had
he's on the field every single time uh-huh he's randy fucking moss so literally everybody on the
field that plays for any team sees rain oh fucking randy mosses here oh that was my favorite player
every position oh that was one of my favorite players that was one of my favorite players over
there he's gone that's a big deal that's a big deal. No offense, RG3.
I think he's going to do well. I think last night he did well.
He was alongside Bug,
I believe, right? And then Schefter
was on the far right. Little Punditry
had a Schefter deal last night.
He loves it. He loves it in the game.
And they had Steve. I don't know if he's got COVID
or didn't make the trip for this Monday Night Football
on Thursday. He was on his own
isolated Zoom call shot.
And this is their first
iteration. This is the first time
they did that.
Orlovsky, Riddick, Levy,
Laura Rutledge on the sideline.
This is their first time debuting. I'm sure the
nerves were so high
from everybody over there.
Why didn't they get Swagoo out there?
I did see Swagoo tweet that
basically everybody he knows
is working his thing except for him.
Yeah.
What's that all about?
What's that all about?
What's that all about?
Maybe he didn't want to travel.
I mean, it's a lot.
But I think they're only getting two or three games this season.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Including that one.
Then there's another preseason one.
Then they have like two games in the season.
Yeah, I see.
This is the Monday night.
So the on-game crew only getting three games.
The pre-show and halftime, Susie, that's all year.
That is the Monday night football cast.
With Troy and Joe.
I believe so because ESPN announced this week that they re-signed
Hall of Famer Randy Moss, three-time Pro Bowler Matt Hasselbeck,
and Super Bowl champion Teddy Bruschi for Sunday NFL game.
Multi-Super Bowl.
Okay, perfect.
So that means they had Troy and Joe doing a run-through last night.
Did you know that?
Yes.
So they were having two different trucks run?
Because, like, Laura Rutledge doing a sideline.
Who's the Monday Night Football sideline?
Did they bring over?
No.
No, because Aaron stayed with Fox, I think, right?
Yeah.
So they just did two different broadcasts last night, I assume?
Full broadcast?
And Joe and Troy had to get used to it?
Or the producers of ESPN?
Lisa Salters.
Lisa Salters.
So was she there as well?
They were doing a full walkthrough, I wonder?
Yeah, because they don't need to, like, Joe and Troy.
They're vets.
Is it strictly for the producers and the directors?
I would assume, yeah, with Joe and Troy to get a feel for it all.
Didn't Kirk say he was going to be there last night with Al, too, or no?
No, I think they had a meeting in L.A.
I don't know.
I have no idea.
He said they were doing a mock game, too,
but I don't know if it was last night's game.
A lot of mock games going on.
So close.
Orlovsky was getting killed on here.
He was.
He didn't deserve it. We're like, let everybody know, don close. Orlovsky was getting killed on here. He was. He didn't deserve it.
We'd like to let everybody know, don't kill Orlovsky.
Come on.
It was his birthday.
He's got three games this year.
Yeah.
Three games this year.
He's on ESPN.
And also.
50,000 hours a year.
50,000 hours.
And all he wanted to do was just call some NFL games.
Right.
He got a chance to do it.
I'm not going to bury any previous people that have been in there.
I thought Orlovsky was better than some of the people that have been in there. I thought Orlovsky was better than
some of the people that have been in the booth.
100%. By the way, I think
Dan Orlovsky was better last night than he was at the
noon college games. I think so too.
I think
Levy was better than he was last year, I think.
I think Riddick was as well.
But god damn, the internet
had zero time for any
Orlovsky bullshit last night.
Yeah, and I think Dan has just become such an easy target with people online.
Well, with us too.
Well, for sure.
Because of his daily punditry.
Exactly, which other people are seeing that as well.
But it's also like that game was so shitty.
I didn't watch it really long enough to even give him a fair shake.
So I don't want to say he was terrible or anything because he definitely wasn't.
Well, I mean, I also fell asleep.
Yeah, I also didn't watch very much of the game.
But if you're on the Seahawks fan base,
I forget which team Dan hated last night.
I was scrolling through his mind.
Chicago.
He was bashing Chicago.
Okay, so he was bashing Chicago.
He earned some of it.
He deserved it.
Well, no, let's just say that those are maybe emotional responses.
He really liked Fields, though.
He was very complimentary.
Searching Orlovsky last night on Twitter was a pretty fun little exercise.
Yeah, it was a bloodbath.
But it was not mostly positive.
No, not at all.
And Dan's on his phone
he's in twitter yeah he sees it he sees all that i'm thinking he shouldn't yeah maybe take like my
first maybe 15 times maybe 20 times doing wwe stuff i could not look at my mentions while i
was on air because all the wwe fans hated. I mean, like openly, loudly hated me.
Who's this uninformed, loud douchebag?
And it would have affected my actual performance.
So the fact that Dan is mentally tough enough to scroll through this
while he is live on air, I'm pretty impressed by that.
Yeah.
And also just the fact that it is the brand he's working for
is Monday Night Football,
so people are immediately going to compare that booth to Trolley and Joe,
which they'll never be Trolley and Joe.
That's just the way it goes.
But that's going to happen every time those guys call a game.
I mean, how easy is it to say it on a Thursday?
Well, like you said, cheapskates, you know.
Well, I don't know if it's cheap.
It may be, right?
It had to be.
Or lazy.
Eat one of the two. Or didn't think of think of it yeah they dump money into the graphics those things
delivered once again yeah the fish flying up you can't carol oh yes awesome awesome those are some
of the best moments yeah my favorite best partners for football not the best part of football season
but monday night football when last year when the booth did stick uh the animations the animation
they were hilarious.
Awesome.
But those can't be cheap to make.
So if you're making those for a preseason game, you're willing to spend money on it,
right?
I wonder if it's like a bundle package with the animator.
Like, hey, we want you for this season.
Includes preseason games.
Actually, I think Fantasy Bill is the guy that does the animations for Monday Night
Football.
Bill Platschke?
No, no, no.
The guy who's on ESPN and does fantasy football
now, I believe. The guy with the long hair? Yeah.
Danny Dopp. He's fucking...
He does his fantasy shit.
Where's Matthew Barry? Matt Barry, I believe,
is with... NBC. Whoa.
He built up his fantasy football conglomerate by
birthing fantasy football. Yes.
Then he got bought out by NBC. Congrats
to Matthew Barry. Well, he came on this show
and Tony dunked on his face, so I don't know. Well, he came on this show and Tony dunked on his face.
Well, he just didn't understand what a real RB2 or WR3 might be.
You don't like Matthew Barry?
I love Matthew Barry.
Doesn't sound like it.
Doesn't sound like it at all.
We talk about he's God.
Yeah, but you were cutting him off every time.
In our fantasy world, he's God.
Do you remember that?
Oh, yeah.
Zanion Tomlinson, yeah.
We know who has the most touchdowns from RB1.
Guess who, and before he could even get it out to the other day shut up matthew
give us something we don't know that's what you were saying you felt almost like he was trying
to alpha your fantasy stuff well i mean until he realizes like that fantasy tone is king yeah yeah
tony speaking of uh we'll stop the music again we won't go to break because this is a good time
to make an announcement we're're having a fancy football league.
Hell yeah.
Here we go.
Come on now, boys.
Everybody will have their own team except for me.
I'll be with CFO Phil, and AJ Hawk will be with Bill.
That's right.
There will be a draft live on Twitter space what?
Does AJ know?
Oh, he does.
I texted him.
He didn't answer, but he's now learning, I guess, alongside everybody else.
Me and CFO Phil will be beating everybody else me and cfo phil
will be beating everybody else in this office in fantasy football uh it's bruce's league yep
bruce is the commish bruce is the one setting everything up we have a draft on spaces i think
and it will be a snake draft correct right uh we're getting half-point PPR. There you go. We got standard rosters.
Standard rosters.
Two kickers.
Two kickers.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Two kickers.
One is a standard roster.
I wasn't around for that one.
Yes, you were.
You were voting.
You were actually pretty loud in the whole voting.
No, no, no.
I was way over.
Two kickers.
Two kickers.
Yeah, two kickers.
There's not even that many kickers.
That's the thing.
That's why it's going to be sweet.
That's why me and CFO Phil, maybe a little bit of an advantage.
Even though there is zero chance I'm going to pay attention to any of this
two days after it happens.
I'm excited to get into the fantasy world.
People love fantasy, I guess.
Love fantasy.
Live for it.
ESPN had a full L graphic on their entire, every show for three days
talking about fantasy football.
I thought sports gambling had come in and just completely knocked that out,
but it's not in every state.
In fantasy, I guess, you know, people really enjoy the community of it.
Tens of millions of people.
Even if people are not doing leagues anymore, they're still doing daily.
Yeah.
DFS.
DFS.
Pick a new lineup every week.
Don't have to worry about injuries and stuff.
All right, let's get to a break.
That's big news that we're doing a fantasy football league.
Yeah, huge for this.
What is it?
I think it's $50,000 to the winner, which will be $25,000 to the person,
$25,000 however they would like to give it away,
whether it's charity or Twitter or YouTube, whatever, however.
And then also, what's the loser got to do?
Oh, they got to wear a sign on Radio Row.
Yes, for a whole day.
Thought they were sleeping at Bill's house.
All right.
Well, that was too cruel.
So we had to adjust what we were going to do.
Bill also didn't want to.
You didn't hear what fucking we found out today about Bill's house.
What?
Guy's got fucking 12 cats.
He just bought a hamster to add on to it.
Well, that thing's dead.
Yeah.
Jesus Christ.
The hamster's going to be dead.
If any of those cats are anything like any of the cats that I have,
if there's a little rat-looking fuck that was sitting in the house,
I mean, those cats have that thing in their mouth.
Well, Bill survived.
I mean, my house must smell fantastic.
Let's get to a break, dude.
We're back in four minutes of the show.
Bill, you didn't deserve any of that, Bill.
Love you, Bill.
For the record, he didn't want us staying over at his house either because then he would have to kill one of us while he
killed other people just to be fair we're back in four it's the pat mcfitch show waiting for
some phone calls uh big fantasy football year this year that's right aj hawk will join us in about 15
minutes and um this song stinks this one dude it's a mashup of songs I guess
Oh
Oh yeah that song is weird
Remove from this playlist
See ya
See ya
What happened to the guy playing the trumpets and the saxophone on there
Sounded like Bruno Mars
You talking about Timmy Trumpet
No
I forget who it was
Anyways
Dan Orlovsky has sent us a tweet on his feel good Friday
What
I don't know if we're able to pull it up.
Double fist bump.
Hell yeah.
Love you, Dan.
Love you, Dan.
Love you, Dan-o.
Congrats, Dan.
That was a cool thing because they didn't put on a Thursday in the graphic.
So it was cool to see Dan in the Monday Night Football booth.
I was actually happy for him.
Oh, yeah.
Sweet.
And he looked really good because he hasn't eaten all summer.
Yep.
Yolked.
Did you see him eating that cupcake?
No, did he? With a candle. He was eating the cupcake. Yep. Yo. Did you see him eating that cupcake? No, did he?
With a candle.
He was eating the cupcake with a candle.
Oh, birthday.
Yeah, as a spoon.
That was during the game last night?
Yeah.
That was after his 23 zip, I assume?
Yeah.
I was out.
If it was after 23 zip, before 137 left, 138 left on the game, I missed it all.
Yeah, wasn't there.
So I have to go back and watch.
Obviously, you get the flow of Dan Orlovsky's game, but I'm happy for him.
In the middle of preseason, but storylines are cooking. Yeah, wasn't there. So I have to go back and watch, obviously, you get the flow of Dan Orlovsky's game, but I'm happy for him. In the middle of preseason,
but storylines are cooking.
Oh, yeah.
One in specific is,
where will Jimmy G
be playing quarterback?
Where will the handsome
Paisano, Jimmy Garoppolo
play quarterback
this upcoming season?
Because he's currently
under contract with
the San Francisco 49ers. He contract with the San Francisco 49ers.
He has led the San Francisco 49ers to the Super Bowl in the past and NFC Championship games.
But what will he look like this upcoming season?
Who will he be playing for?
Will the San Francisco 49ers be cutting him or trading him?
And with Trey Lance being there, the Niners have told him, you work out different field.
Don't even come around the team.
Trey Lance being there.
The Niners have told him, you work out different field.
Don't even come around the team.
Now, there's a couple reports coming out about Jimmy Garoppolo that are not very positive.
And I don't know why this would be getting out right now
when it seems like we're on the precipice for him going to another team.
But Chris Sims on Pro Football Talk alongside Mike Florio
had this scathing take
about Jimmy Garoppolo as a leader and as a quarterback of an NFL team.
Franchise quarterback, you're all in.
It's a 12-month-a-year job.
There's no offseason for a franchise quarterback.
And apparently there was some dismay that in 2018 after he got his money,
he just disappeared until it was time to show up for the offseason program.
I know so many people out there in San Francisco,
Kyle couldn't keep track of it.
I've heard this from players, ex-coaches there.
He goes off the radar all the time, all the time.
Nobody can get in contact with him.
But his first year in offseason there, that's when I was made aware of it.
I'm not going to name the player I was at, but I was at an event,
and the player who was a longstanding player with the 49ers was like,
I can't get the quarterback to call me back.
I've called them every day for a month.
You hear it from everybody.
I've heard it from ex-coaches who have moved on and just gone, yeah, it's weird.
The organization's tried to reach out to them times and explain things to them,
and they can't get a hold of them to the point where I think they've had to drive to his house
and knock on the door and be like, hello, are you alive, are you there?
So, yeah, I mean, I think that's why there's the 49er fan base that wants to know,
why are we getting rid of Jimmy Garoppolo?
I think there's more than just the play on the field at hand here.
And yeah, I think a lot of the NFL knows these stories a little bit. And I think that's why
maybe, you know, we've had some teams kind of drag their feet and not sure if they really want
to go all in on the Jimmy Garoppolo trade. So that knucklehead right there, that goofball is
Chris Sims. And obviously we know Chris Sims is a former NFL quarterback,
son of Phil Sims, who's been in the media game his whole life.
Chris Sims formerly of Bleacher Report.
Now he's with NBC and Pro Football Talk and Football Night in America.
He's well-known because he's best friends with Kyle Shanahan.
College roommates, yeah.
College roommates with Kyle Shanahan.
And that's why he led off his statement with saying,
I know so many
people over there Kyle couldn't keep track of it okay so let's go ahead and say it's not just from
his direct best friend who is now the head coach of the team in which Jimmy G plays for he's getting
his information from other people as well I don't know who's just openly talking to Chris Sims about
what's going on with Jimmy G on a regular basis but we don't know who Chris Sims knows we have no
idea what it is could be from though, is what some people were thinking
and automatically assuming when Chris Sims talks about the Niners situation
might be coming from Kyle.
He's clearly saying it did not.
So we just have to take him for his word that it did not come from Kyle.
Now, it is tough to hear something like this and take it that serious
because we have had somebody on our show who's a former president
of a baseball team, David Sampson.
And this is literally what Sampson said.
Now Marlins and baseball is a different league, different sport.
This is what he had to say about the end of a run for some guys,
whenever it comes to a team and how they're going to handle business.
I've,
I've been told that the MLB will float out a proposal that they haven't officially made yet to the media,
see how the people respond, and then they're like,
okay, good, this one's fucking good, let's write it down,
we'll send this over as an actual proposal.
Is that something that the MLB has done for a long, long time now?
Is that kind of the move?
So what we would do is we would float, when we wanted to sign a player,
we would float it out there to see what
sort of reaction we get to a certain player whether it may move the revenue needle if we
were going to trade a player we would start floating out listen this may not be the best
teammate we may have a clubhouse issue so we could try to ease the pain when we're making a trade
because of money when we're doing some sort of promotion so like that is it's hard not to just immediately
think of that now anytime any bad story gets kind of run about a quarterback that we thought was
like the ideal model teammate i've not heard any of this aside from him potentially being on
the tabloids dating porn stars right don't really know about it sorry about it says jimmy we don't
really know anything about jimmy off the field, this close to his departure with a new quarterback on the horizon for the Niners,
there's this story being released about how he's – it's not just on field.
It's also off field stuff.
That's hard for me to believe, I think.
Honestly, it is.
So we said, you know what we need to do?
Let's go ahead and call somebody that might have a little bit more information.
Let's go ahead and call somebody that has boots on the ground in the San Francisco market.
Beat writer.
This isn't Feel the Beat for the San Francisco 49ers.
But this is not just anybody.
This is at Lombardi himself.
Ladies and gentlemen, David Labarde.
Yeah, David!
What's up, dude?
What's going on, fellas?
How you doing?
Hey, thank you so much for joining us.
This is not Feel the Beat, so we're going to have to get you into that segment at least one time.
This is just conversation right now.
Chris Sims had an entire take about how he knows a lot of people in the San Francisco 49ers organization,
not just Kyle Shanahan.
He's college roommates with Kyle Shanahan.
I assume he's been around the Niners organization, knows a lot of friends of best friends of yours.
So let's just take him for his word that this didn't come from Kyle Shanahan.
But he talked about how, you know, Jimmy Garoppolo's a basically bad teammate,
bad leader, not around much, can't find him.
He disappears out of nowhere.
Then we played a David Sampson thing, MLB president.
He said they would leak bad information about a player they're about to trade
so that the fans can get a little bit more on board
with a potential departure player what is this story and how come you k covering the niners
haven't told us about this jimmy g is not a pro quarterback non-nfl quarterback what is real what
is not in this entire jimmy g saga about him just disappearing and not being a leader or whatever
this this has come over no out of nowhere for us are we wrong yeah i don't think it's come out of nowhere george kittle for example has been
joking for a couple years that jimmy g is really hard to get a hold of in the off season you go
back to some of his old social media posts there's a picture of george sitting next to jimmy's locker
showing him something on a phone and george captions it saying i'm showing jimmy how to
use the new ios because apparently he'm showing Jimmy how to use the new iOS
because apparently he doesn't know how to use his phone.
He doesn't get back to me for a lot of time over the course of the offseason.
But this was like a joking matter.
And Jimmy had always reported to the first day of OTAs, Phase 1,
whatever you want to call it.
And I will add that in 2020 in the offseason,
they all met in Nashville and worked out a lot of the star players.
And supposedly, Jimmy was the ringleader.
So to go close to the team, this is like not surprising.
The fact that it's being made into something this big is surprising, if that makes sense.
But we've had the tea leaves already ahead of time.
So he's made it to every LTA.
He, I guess, put together a skill workout
in nashville which is where kiddo lives i assume right didn't know where he has a house so you're
saying although this is potentially true that there are moments of the year where jimmy g is
impossible to get a hold of who knows what he's in huh yeah who knows we know i mean george has
this running joke i jimmy won't text me. And that's been a running joke since like 2017.
George was a rookie in 2017.
Jimmy joined the 49ers in 2017.
So it's not like foreign.
I've heard these rumors before, but now they're turned into something that's being used to negatively frame Garoppolo as opposed to as a joke.
Which it has been kind of just a joke for a long time.
Now, do you think other NFL teams are worried about this joke that is being made into something and that's
why nobody is maybe offered up a big-time trade or had as much interest as we could think aside
from the shoulder injury that has just got healed up i guess no listen this is the way i look at it
the off season we saw the the shoulder injury obviously cool the trade market but now the 49ers
are between a rock and a hard place
because after August 30th, or I guess on September 10th is the exact date,
Jimmy Garoppolo's contract is going to become guaranteed
if he stays with the 49ers, and they obviously want the cap savings.
So all these prospective teams, you know,
if there's somebody interested in Jimmy Garoppolo
and knows that the 49ers are probably going to have to release him
and probably are going to release him within just a couple of weeks. So now it's this waiting
game. And I don't think the 49ers will be able to trade him unless somebody gets really desperate,
right? And they want a quarterback in their camp right now. So I think that, you know,
lack of a trade has more to do with just the market dynamics. First, it was the injury.
And now it was the fact that they're up against the corner and they're probably going to have to release them last question here nobody in san
francisco thinks jimmy g isn't uh a franchise quarterback a leader everything like that bad
teammate nobody thinks he's a bad teammate bad leader bad franchise quarterback or are there
some people that have their worries i mean it was just the opposite right there there were physical
limitations especially when he got hurt this past year.
But everybody was just banging the drum for how good of a leader he was
and how much they liked him in the locker room.
So that's why all this talk about him not being a leader,
that kind of comes out of left field.
We know that he doesn't text back for certain parts of the offseason.
But as far as leadership goes, that was for five years that I've covered him.
That was the one strong suit that people would consistently point to inside the 49ers locker room okay so just
like what samson said kind of maybe that whole thing who knows uh last question which lombardi
are you related to we assume all lombardis are related at some point has to be probably some
town same town in italy are you related to any of the lombardis in football currently or in the past
or is it just happenstance?
Only by name. Can't lie
to you guys, but do you know what Lombardi means,
I guess? It means fucking win
a football championship.
It means the long bearded one, so
I started working on the beard this offseason.
The Lombards,
right? So those were the northern
Italians that kind of
when the Roman Empire fell,
you had like the Germanic people come and like sack northern Italy,
and they had long beards.
They called them the Lombards.
And the Lombards also very pale-skinned,
as opposed to the southern Italians that have the olives.
Yes.
Right?
They're taller, too.
Taller.
Hey, Paisan, we appreciate you joining us and getting to the bottom of that.
Ladies and gentlemen, David Lombardi.
Thanks, guys. Thank you. Here we joining us and getting to the bottom of that. Ladies and gentlemen, David Lombardi. Thanks, guys.
Thank you.
Here we go.
Atta baby.
That's right.
Hour two here, guys.
We lead into preseason week two weekend.
Last night, preseason week two kicked off in beauty.
Week three?
Week two.
Week two, but three with the Raiders Hall of Fame game.
They need to stop that.
Yeah, it's dumb.
I don't know how much sway we have in any portion of life.
That Hall of Fame game needs not to happen.
Players hate it.
Coaches hate it.
Fans hate it.
Media hate it.
Have an event.
Quarterback challenge.
Yeah, well, retired quarterback challenge.
Yeah, that'd be sweet.
Hall of Fame challenge.
Yeah, get fucking Marino and Brett Favre out there and let them run.
And Terry, have them run that Blitz game.
That's right.
NFL Blitz.
Making an event as opposed to making it guys having to go back to training camp
earlier than everybody else, us watching the game, hating it,
then have another week and a half to more games.
I assume more people watch Hall of Fame game than any other sports events.
So it's going to be hard to just change that. But I think if you do
anything with NFL related with big names,
it's going to draw eyes as well. Nonetheless,
week two, preseason weekend kicked off last
night as the Bears
stampeded the Seahawks
in Seattle.
We got a lot of games today. Three games, Panthers
at Patriots, then Saints at the Packers,
Texans at Rams, then tomorrow
Lions at Colts. I think we'll be there. Steelers at Jaguars, Cowboys at Chargers, Broncos at Bills, Nin Saints at the Packers, Texans at Rams, then tomorrow Lions at Colts.
I think we'll be there.
Steelers at Jaguars, Cowboys at Chargers, Broncos at Bills, Niners at Vikings.
And then Sunday, there's three more games or two more games.
So it should be a NFL filled weekend. And I cannot wait for it.
The toxic tables here at Ty Schmidt at Boston Corner.
Tyron Diggs is one half of the hammer.
Dad Cowboys.
He is here as well.
Joining us from Manatee in Ohio, college football national champion,
Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup champion, COVID survivor,
ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hall.
Yay!
A.J., the haircut looks better day two after that thing.
You look good.
You look fantastic.
Did you watch the game last night?
Seahawks look bad.
Just preseason.
Just preseason, though, A.J.
Yeah, I watched most of it.
I would imagine Zito feels pretty good about what his Bears did.
You know, Justin Fields moving the ball.
Now, I don't know if they're going to be able to block for him.
They're very lucky he is very athletic and can make a lot of plays with his feet.
But, yeah, it was a positive step for the Bears and Seahawks.
I don't care either way for them.
I think they'll be okay.
Do you feel attached to Justin Fields because he's also Ohio State meathead? I don't feel attached I'm a fan of his absolutely but I don't know what it's
going to be like this season I feel like if they're going to be good he has to play very very well
and a lot of things are going to have to go their way I think for instance Gino Smith went to West
Virginia so I do feel like I should stick up for him for what happened last night what has happened
over the last four quarters he has played for the Seattle Seahawks
as their quarterback in a competition for the starting role in his 10th year in the NFL,
which is very successful.
I mean, that first drive, that third down, that thing, that gets caught,
that's a completely different ballgame.
And that was a beautiful ball.
Over a linebacker, in between corner safety, like right on a dime.
Ball gets dropped.
We're punting.
Chicago's coming back the other way.
Guns a-blazing.
The Chicago Bears, by the way.
Seattle, the Seahawks fans, fucking the 12s,
which might have a couple of rough years coming ahead of them.
We'll see how dedicated they remain to the Seahawks,
which they will say a lot.
We'll see.
We'll see.
Russell Wilson, no star, really.
That kind of brings all the energy out of that stadium.
Completely different game.
Him tripping over the running back,
I mean, that's literally that far off his cleat off of that.
You trip, fall down there. That changes the entire game. Jacob Eason comes in, slings the running back, I mean, that's literally that far off his cleat off of that. You trip, fall down there,
that changes the entire game. Jacob Beeson comes
in, slings the ball around a little bit,
but I feel like the Seahawks were this close
a couple different times last night, but doesn't it
feel like the teams that lose
a lot of games always like this close?
It just seems to not be going their way
and for the Seahawks, not only do you use
Wagner, not only do you lose Russell
Wilson, 17 years of Pro Bowls between the two of them,
you lose an identity, I think, on offense.
Now, DK and Ty aren't playing.
And if the football gods are working against you, I mean, fucking A, it might be a long year up there in Seattle.
It's just preseason, but fucking A, that might be a long year, AJ Hawk.
I mean, it absolutely could be.
And, like, the Legion of Boom defense, that's been gone for a little bit,
but there's still been traces of it.
Obviously, having Russ there, you're like, okay,
we remember what it was like when the Legion of Boom was there.
And then with Bobby Wagner, he's off the defense.
Like, all right, now we're officially moving on to, like,
a new thing here in Seattle.
So there may be some growing pains along the way.
But, I mean, maybe they can be one of those teams that kind of flies
under the radar, but too bad their division
is too good around them. NFC West, yeah.
That's going to be very difficult, I think,
at NFC West. I'm excited to see the Seahawks
fans. I hope it's the same
atmosphere. I would imagine it will be early
for sure, but if they are not successful, how do
they continue to bring that juice?
Week one, I bet you it'll be packed, and then we'll see where
it goes from there. Yeah, well, we'll see how
the team does.
Yeah.
Regular season could be completely different than preseason for a lot of these teams that we're going to judge and overreact to
because we do a daily show and NFL football is back, so we have to.
No DK Metcalf, no Lockett.
The defenses are playing vastly different, right?
Just like the Colts against the Bills.
Jonathan Taylor is not in the backfield.
The Bills' defense is playing very different. So the Colts aren't necessarily seeing what they're going to see in the game
because they're without fucking MVP cannon in the back.
So we have to take that into account, right?
Don't we, AJ?
I think we have to.
Yeah, I think it absolutely all plays.
It's a factor.
And I know what the Giants' D coordinator is taking shots at Bill Belichick
because they were calling a few too many blitzes.
Yeah, so things like that absolutely happen.
Well, he got those exotics.
AJ, he got those exotics. AJ, they got those exotics.
You know, amoeba.
They might pull out the amoeba defense.
That's what Wink does.
They do.
That's what they'll do.
Remember Raven's defense?
They're an amoeba.
You never know who's where.
They're always changing, fluctuating, kind of, you know, around.
They got to work that.
You know, it's first-year institute,
and none of the players there have ever played that style of defense.
So Wink's like, hey, we're on a Cincinnati.innati but also bill fucking what do you want me to do sorry about
it what do you want me to do but none of these guys ever played this style of defense i had it
for fucking 20 years with baltimore everybody came there basically just went through hey this
is our defense 101 from the older players and film and everything now i got nothing bill what
the fuck you want we're on cincinnati but bill what the fuck you want me to do basically it's
that's kind of what wink said i think i didn't're on Cincinnati, but Bill, what the fuck do you want me to do? Come on. That's kind of what Wink said, I think.
I didn't hear all those words, but I do feel like that is kind of what Wink said.
But you're right.
That defense, they're going to run blitzes all the time
because that's what their defense naturally is.
But a lot of these teams aren't showing shit right now either,
offense or defense.
So it's hard to judge, but Seahawks fans have to be pretty bummed.
You know what I mean?
Like have to be pretty bummed about everything going on.
I mean, I just don't know what they – like what positive things do they have going.
If you look at the Seahawks right now, okay, all these teams have certain things
that they like hitch their wagon to and they're pumped for the season.
I mean, we know Evy is so juiced about the Lions and everything they have.
What do people have to be excited for when you look at Seattle?
Well, see, Evan, though, has the – I think Evan will be back next week.
Sweet.
Miss Foxy.
Love you, Foxy.
Love you, Foxy.
He's a handsome son of a bitch, I guess.
Very handsome.
Very handsome.
Yeah.
But the Lions fans, I think, reasonable.
Hey, we're going to win 10 games this year,
and we're going to get to the playoffs.
And I think he says playoff win like that's their goal that is that has been their goal for 20 years we just
want to win a playoff game that's all we want to do that's the expectation that's it and at this
stage of the nfl calendar any team can believe that right i mean that is literally something
any team any team's fan base can believe so what i'm lions expectations are seahawks fans
expectations i wonder like are seahawks fans that realistic after going to the promised land numerous
times having a guy you know they're not realistic fans are not realistic you can't be if you're a
fan of a team you can't be realistic it's a rebuilding year it's rebuilding two or three
seasons for us they can't think that and it might might not be that. That might not be the case.
Some guys could step up.
But, hey, it sure looks like it might be.
But I'm saying, like, Lions fans are realistic, I think, though.
Like, they're like.
They're legit saying 10, 11 wins and a playoff win.
Yeah, that's not saying they will do it.
They're saying, like, that's what they're hoping.
Best case scenario.
They're very hopeful for that.
They think it's a real possibility, which I think that's.
Yeah, why not?
You should think that.
Any team.
The year we were 2-14 and we had basically nobody playing there was nine one score games that
we could imagine if we go 11 and 5 that year yeah i mean it could have happened the ball goes for
whatever reason though it seems like the bounces normally go to the team that's better and works
harder and you know that's all the little things throughout the year and all that stuff adds up
and that's not just football by the way that's life it feels like luck seems to go in the favor of
people that you know maybe treat the universe in a proper fashion as opposed to other people but
still got to get fucking lucky in the some of those games that year we were awful got the number
one pick we were bad there was six seven games, like, should have won. Right there. Hey, actually should have probably won.
So every team, I think, can – every team's fan base can have the mindset,
like, yeah, we can make the playoffs this year.
And if we get in a dance, get in a dance, you never know.
But I think there's some teams, because they've had success,
like the Colts, Colts expectations, fans, fucking Super Bowl, dude.
What are you even talking about?
Phil Rivers got to the playoffs in his first year or whatever.
They lost to the Bills.
Like, I don't know if anybody here in five years will even remember Phil Rivers' run as a quarterback here
because it wasn't like AFC Championship or a Super Bowl or something like that.
Lions fans, differently.
Bengals fans, I assume for a long time, like, hey, we just want to kind of dance and win four games.
Then he gets to a fucking super bowl last year i'd love to see the bangles fans are
like we're just hoping to win some games now yeah we're gonna win a super yeah like you know there's
not 15 straight super bowls now that joe burrows in town it's like you set your own expectation
for your fan base and i think the seahawks fan base expectations are fucking oh yeah you know
what i mean sky high and that's why i keep saying like it seems like Seahawks fans are going to have to, like,
almost like what we were saying to you for the last couple of years.
Like, hey, Patriots fans, you're about to learn what it's like.
Like Clemson fans.
Is it like Clemson fans?
Like, they were the talk of the town for, what, the last five, six, seven years?
And then what was the record last year?
How many games?
Nine and three or something.
Is DJ Uyunglele still the quarterback?
Yeah, it's him.
And then there's a freshman five-star who's apparently pushing him.
Well, DJ Leon Galele was also
a freshman five-star. Yeah, and he did not play
great last year.
That was weird. He looked really good at times.
He's huge. COVID, dude.
Yeah, you're right. You can't judge anything.
Last night, there was a guy on the team
big return. I think
he was a return, maybe. For the Bears.
Six years he was in college.
Oh, Velas Jones Jr.
Velas Jones Jr.
Six years in college, took the COVID year, got better,
and then comes in the NFL, going to make the team.
He's 25 right now.
He's like the special teams player of the year in the SEC,
co-player of the year or something.
He's like an Australian that comes over after their AFL career,
and they're like freshmen in college at the age of 26.
Like, mate, I haven't gone to school. University.
You're a fucking fool going to an adult though.
You're competing against a 17-year-old kid right now.
What do you want me to do?
The guy that comes in, he's 28 because he played
eight years of minor league baseball.
J.R. House? Yeah, we had that.
We had J.R. House.
He was 25, 26. He was awesome. So nice to J.R. House. He was, I don't know, 25, 26.
He was awesome.
So nice to everybody.
Rich.
Drew Hanson was an old quarterback that did that, too.
He was awesome.
Then he was gone after one year.
Brandon Whedon.
Yeah, Brandon Whedon.
Brandon Whedon, yeah.
He graduated in 29 or something.
Russ Wilson.
Now, Russ didn't go play.
No.
He was drafted first round.
Hey, you know what he was doing?
Riding.
That's all Russ does, dude.
He hit.456 in AA.
Russ?
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
No, he didn't.
What?
If Russ would have hit.456 in AA, he would be starring at shortstop for the Yankees right now.
Now that we know a little bit more about Russ, and sorry Seahawks fans, it's going to continue here.
Yeah.
Because this guy is not your quarterback.
Now he's popular, he's liked, and he seems to be showing more of himself
than he ever has.
Your team appears to stink.
His team appears to be very good.
Right.
Oh, Seahawks fans.
This is what happened with Indianapolis when Peyton left, by the way.
There's going to be a lot of Broncos jerseys.
There's going to be that split Broncos-Seahawks jersey that opening night.
A lot of those.
Look for a lot of threes split in half in orange and blue, and then whatever the Seahawks jersey that opening night. A lot of those. Look for a lot of threes split in half in orange and blue,
and then whatever the Seahawks jersey they decide to do it with.
That's going to happen, I think, because it happened here in Indy.
We had Andrew Luck, though, and Andrew Luck was a little bit different.
He was a little bit of a gamer,
and that guy would actually put the entire team on his back,
and he would run into like those Knights that
had the the big jousters jousters and he would just run and they would just be
stabbing him in his lungs in his appendix and everything is good in his
heart and then also right in the head yeah and he would thank the night okay
I'm gonna go right back here you go that way I appreciate it but the whole team
on his back again then he would run by the way, it didn't even happen.
No.
Full speed, right back into it.
Boom.
Demolished.
Hey, that was an awesome hit.
I'll see you again.
He's going right back to the fucking front of the line.
He's back.
And we went to a fucking AFC championship.
Yeah.
Peyton Manning goes and has his best season ever.
Throws more touchdowns than ever.
Gets to another Super Bowl.
And we had the number 32 ranked team going into the season.
What does that mean?
Who's ranking?
Fuck them.
But we were dead last.
Go to the AFC Championship game that year or AFC playoffs that year.
Yeah.
It was unbelievable.
And I don't know if Seattle has that.
Now, to Russell Wilson.
What if the Broncos are fucking unbelievable this year?
Are we thinking there's a chance of that?
Orlovsky likes them in the AFC.
Orlovsky now.
Hey, did you get to listen to Dano last night on his birthday I did I saw a little bit of you guys saying he was uh you know
there may be some negative comments out there that's normal I thought Dano was Dano I think
he did great he was there yeah he more than some I mean is it like are some people seeing him do
games for the first time is what you're saying yeah and also I think people are seeing him
outside of his uh you know his little uh clown box yeah on the chair time is what you're saying? Yeah, and also I think people are seeing him outside of his little clown box.
Pong chair.
You know what I mean?
Hey, Dan, every idea you have is the right one,
and we're going to make you as loud as possible.
It's that way.
Hey, hop into every batter's box, Dan.
That's what they tell him every single morning.
Hey, whatever.
What do you think about this player?
Do we need you to hop in or do we need you to go all the fucking way in on this?
Yeah, you're not taking any pitches.
Yeah, he sees everything coming.
Curveball, it don't matter.
Guy has a good game out of nowhere.
That thing's breaking off the table.
Dan's doing a full fucking –
Swing.
Full hack at that thing.
Full.
And that ball's traveling a long way.
Probably foul.
Probably foul, but it's traveling.
He's swinging hard at every single take on ESPN.
And that's kind of what he's been hired to do, though.
Right.
Like, that's what those shows are.
So I think a lot of people seeing him outside of the jousting with Stephen A or yelling at Greeny or any of the other hours and hours and hours and hours and hours of television he's on every single day.
And then he put in the booth.
There's going to be a natural reaction to him already.
And then he put in a booth.
There's going to be a natural reaction to him already.
But I think as a commentator in the booth,
compared to people that have done the job in the past,
not that specific booth, but just booths in general,
I didn't think Dan was that terrible last night.
I thought he was good.
He was much better than he was for the college football things, I think.
Yeah, for sure.
And that might be just because I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to college football, so I'm watching those games.
It's like, all right, I don't care.
But, wow, we do this year.
We do. We do this year because we're part of the college football
landscape now i thought he did better you know than a lot of people have in there and it was
his first night and he's only going to get do what three more games this year i i didn't understand
the hate until i'm like oh that's because they already hate him from everything else he does
it's like oh that's fair by the way that's You do what you got to do. That's expected. I mean, I think Dan's very informative. We know that he absolutely studies the game.
So, yeah, whether – I just think if someone's talking about the commentators,
I don't know, good or bad, I think it's fine.
I think it's a good thing.
We don't want to be completely indifferent towards them.
Yeah, you're right.
They were for a long time.
That's the worst.
When you're like, who was in that booth?
And you don't even know.
That's, I think, worse.
So I think some fans prefer that, right?
Yeah, they're not part of the game. Joe Buck talks about that a lot he's like well if i get if
i have a heart attack and die in the way there they're still playing the game yeah and i joe
buck then got paid like what 15 million dollars because whenever these guys get paid what they're
getting paid to be in the booth there's a reaction from a sector of people that are like who cares
about the comment i'm not coming to watch commentator and it's like well people do care that's why there's you know 15 20 million dollar offers
happening to people to commentate games so i i think there is a sector that just wish robots
were calling the game on this just tell me what down it is what they're doing and then get to the
next play i enjoy somebody setting the tone for the game for me like i enjoy like hey we're
watching this game together as opposed to either this is your fucking your time to shine in story
time and do that like there is you know what i mean like i like the setting of the tone i like
to hear when they're having fun i like to hear or see hey this person loves it this person loves
football you can tell like they're a football nerd here and they're really getting into it
that's what i think comes across the tv you're allowed to have fun too you
know why is everybody so mad doesn't make sense just how it is bro i've always been on a team
yeah but like you're oh so you think they feel like they're then other people jump on and yeah
just how it is have to take seriously but why does everybody act like covering sports is like
literally covering a fucking cancer researcher?
You know, like it's not that serious, dude.
It's fucking football.
It hasn't always been done like that either.
You know what I think happened is because we're watching Madden talk and they're like, he changed the way football is covered.
I'm like, did he or did he just.
People like those old school guys, their old school voices.
That's what they remember, especially like the older crowd when they go after broadcasters.
But then normally it just becomes suit, suit, suit, suit, suit, suit, suit, suit, suit, suit.
Well, who's talking to the suits, by the way?
Oh, bigger suits, suits, suits, suits, suits, suits.
And then all of a sudden it's like super journalism happening, which, by the way, respect and appreciate.
But I think it should be a little bit more like a buffet.
Like, you know, hey, I'm going to grab some chicken tenders.
You know, like I'll also get a salad.
Maybe there's a pie.
Like I'm allowed to have somebody that's taking it super serious outside the lines.
That's what they used to be, right?
Outside the lines used to be super serious.
Now everybody's outside the lines.
Like everybody is trying to win a Nobelbel peace prize covering sports and when i say
everybody i'm talking about obviously a majority of what sports talk became and by the way that's
probably the only reason why this show has any form of success because like we're just sports
idiots and like not trying to cure cancer might be wrong too like that is something that we are
well wrong about this wrong about that these suits covering sports it felt like for like the last 20 years never wrong always curing cancer curing covid and this is exactly
what sports should be and it's just like yo loosen the fuck up to your point and it needs to be
covered but there was a show that did two hours the entire show on deshaun watts this morning
okay so two hours we get good transition actually because i just said there's people that cover the entire show on Deshaun Watson's morning. Okay, so... Two hours.
Good transition, actually,
because I just said there's people that cover sports that have never been wrong.
I'm not sure Deshaun Watson knows he's ever been wrong before.
I think he's a sociopath, right?
Yeah, I think that's safe to say.
I've been Googling sociopath a little bit
to try to learn a little bit more
because it gets thrown out about people we don't like a lot.
You know, successful people normally get thrown out like oh this sociopath this sociopath
just because they've had to make a decision in the past to maybe hurt somebody's feelings
so they don't care whatever they say it a lot actually looking it up just having no regard
for potentially ever being wrong is basic like you know kind of the form of it how deshaun watson
has been the greatest football player of all time
everywhere he's ever been, right?
He leaves Clemson and dabbles in Michael Jordan of fucking football.
He goes to Houston, becomes a top five player, top three player,
they don't know anything.
And then all these allegations and super serious things happen,
and he gets the biggest contract in the history of the league.
That's how good of a player he is.
That's how much his services are wanted.
He gets the largest contract after all this.
He has to have some sort of God complex, right?
I mean, and then you listen to him talk,
and it's like, I'm so standing on my innocence now.
It is being alleged by pro football talks,
Mike Florio, who is a lawyer and looks into everything,
that the NFL released the statement
that an agreement has been reached
before Deshaun even signed
the agreement to almost publicly
make it a pressured situation?
Potentially. It is just like, this is all
potential things that have happened? Because
what if Deshaun thought maybe after this appeal
no more games are going to
be added? I don't think Deshaun thinks
anything happened, like at all. I don't even know
if he has a clue what's going on. Joining us
now, maybe a man that has more information than we do.
He probably does because he's been back to work for a week and a half.
Holy shit.
Ladies and gentlemen, senior NFL insider for the network and the league itself,
host of the weekly wrap-up of the Rap Sheet and Friends,
us being friends, he being Rap Sheet, Ian Rapoport.
Hey!
Ian, we appreciate you joining us.
I know you traveled somewhere.
You're going home now.
Thank you for taking time out of your day to work with us right now.
No problem.
I'm actually going to my wife's family's home in Mississippi.
Can you hear me okay, by the way?
Yeah, I just seen an 18-wheeler going 70 by you, though.
This is like a Herbstreet situation.
It is.
Can't do it.
Are you on the side of the highway?
Are you going to get?
No, I'm not going to.
No one's going to hit me. It'll be okay.
Jesus Christ.
Get him off. Get him off.
You can't be saying shit like that.
Why did you just do what you just did right there?
You just saved your lives, by the way.
Yeah, you're welcome.
Did you knock on?
There's no wood.
It's not like no wood paneling or anything in this rental.
But all right, you guys got me. We're good.
This rental, this shitty-ass rental ain't got wood inside of it. Like my car uh ian rappaport joining us live from the side of a highway uh any
breath could be his last so let's make sure we enjoy all of them deshaun watson situation okay
deshaun watson situation he just has no idea he's a sociopath he like do you think that's the case
right now he has no clue because if you start piecing some things together
with what the statement was that was released, written down,
and then what the statement was of him talking,
it's like, oh, clearly somebody put out a statement
of what he probably should have said.
And then him talking, he just, like, you know,
this is a weird situation.
I think we're learning a lot about Deshaun through it all.
And the remorse seemed to be something that Judge Drew Robinson thought wasn't there as well from it all.
What do you think about that, Ian?
And how should we view it going forward?
All right.
So, obviously, I watched his interview at his press conference yesterday.
I've read his statements.
I've seen a lot of them.
I saw his interview pregame before the ruling came out with Aditi Kinkabwala, where he talked about how sorry he was.
I've kind of pieced all of it together.
And I feel like the explanation for his mindset, for what he feels,
and this is literally just reading the words of his agent, David Mulgato,
who came on Twitter yesterday, basically saying,
and this is paraphrasing, but I'm sure you guys could get the tweet,
basically he was saying that Deshaun Watson believes he did not commit sexual assault,
but there were other things that he did.
The situation he put him in, he put himself in.
The various lives that he affected negatively by his behavior,
that's essentially what he's sorry for.
He maintains his innocence as it pertains to sexual assault
because he does not believe that he committed that.
But as far as the situation he put himself in, that's what he apologizes for.
That's just me reading his words, reading, watching the interviews, reading the words of his agent, David Mulgata.
That's me trying to understand the different sort of views and the needle that he's threading.
Got it.
the different sort of views and the needle that he's threading.
Got it.
Is it possible he's just trying to, like his lawyers are telling him to be careful?
Because could they open up another civil lawsuit if he does admit to something?
Another civil lawsuit, there would have to be someone alleging him of something.
Now, there is still one outstanding case.
They've settled all of them except for one. Could there be another person who accused him of something. Now, there is still one outstanding case. They've settled all of them except for one.
You know, could there be another person who accused him of something?
Certainly that is possible.
And the NFL has reserved the right, as they do in all these disciplinary situations,
if more information comes, they could open it back up. I remember with Josh Brown they did that several, several years back,
the Giants kicker.
So if more information comes, the NFL could open it up.
And I'm sure that Deshaun Watson's legal team has advised him of certain things to say and certain things not to say
Which is why like I mean, it's not why but it's one reason the interviews are awkward because just clearly you can all see his mind
Think thinking and working being like all right. I can't say this. I can't say this it seems
Seems very stilted, I would say.
I'd say it was very serious allegations, obviously.
And Deshaun said for the people he triggered, I think it was almost everybody
because of the things that were being said and alleged in abundance.
I mean, there was a lot of this happening, and the NFL is the biggest league on earth.
Here's the tweet from David Moldegueta that you were referring to, I do believe we have. Deshaun has always stated he is innocent of sexual
assault. Nothing has changed in what he said. He also said he is remorseful. The decisions he made
have created this situation. The settlement allows him to move forward with his life and career.
That's from David Moldegueta, who should be hired by the United States government
to be negotiating all of our deals
with everybody about everything
right now
it's very good
and he represents
his clients, he does his job as an agent
now I will say
as a friend of yours I think we can say that
I don't think I'm doing my job allowing you
to sit right where you're sitting.
And there was an 18-wheeler that came.
I'm going to be fine.
It's like when you look in the rear view, its objects are closer than they appear.
No, I'm going to turn this way so you can't see the cars that are flying by.
But we'll see your car shaped.
That way we'll see.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.
That's just an optical illusion.
Don't you think you should at least sit in a passenger seat over there?
On the other side, maybe?
Get out like you're taking a leak.
Get up and get around.
I'm not walking on this highway.
Plus, there's not a lot of cars going by.
There's a couple now.
We'll be fine.
Do not open the door.
But I don't want to say that we've seen some photos of you.
I think you could just kind of.
Oh, yeah, but there's 18 boxes of Pez on that.
What do you mean?
By the way, the hotel I stayed at, I was in Buffalo last night.
Had the best wings I've ever had in my life.
They had at the hotel little store they have, they had a big thing of gobstoppers.
I almost bought those.
So you're still on your training camp tour
right now? You're at Buffalo?
The odds on favorites?
Yeah, I was at
somewhere
and then I was at Buffalo. I can't remember where.
And now I'm in Mississippi for a couple
days and I'm going to Detroit Monday.
Then I'm done. Okay, so let's hit
some topical things then about
NFL right now.
Hold on. I want to go back to the, you mentioned the I'm done. Okay, so let's hit some topical things then about NFL right now. Baker Mayfield.
Wait, can I?
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
I want to go back to the, you mentioned the sort of the NFL posting and the delay, right?
You talked about that coming in.
Yes.
Gloria reported this on Pro Football Talk this morning.
Yeah.
So my understanding is Deshaun Watson made the decision to accept the settlement.
He and his legal team made the decision like four or so hours before it was actually released.
There was a, I would say, a small snafu as it pertains to like completing this, signing it, making sure everything was all buttoned up.
It had nothing to do with anybody's wavering.
It just was about completing it.
So it was released accidentally because it just was.
I honestly have no idea, and I'm sure the NFL is working on that,
but it was not.
He's dead.
He's alive.
Jeez.
Thank God.
Well, you're like Jesus Christ coming out of the cave there
whenever he came on the other side. We thought you were dead
and you came back alive.
We appreciate that intel.
So you say they agreed to terms before the thing was signed
basically?
Like four or five hours before.
Alright, we appreciate you.
Safe travels. We would ask you more NFL information
but honestly, it's been a cardiac
conversation with you because I think you've died four times.
Are you nervous? Don't be nervous yeah and we like you like as a human all people i guess
there's some people that turned against liking you because the things that happened uh off air
that got on air and the you know all that type of stuff but i would like to let you know we like
fans you mentioned we like you we do like you we like you a lot big fan and
i mean within the next five to ten seconds, we think you're going to die.
I would say this.
I feel very comfortable with my life right now.
Nice.
No, this episode, if something bad happens, it will be like irony and they'll replay this.
But this will be like a cold take situation.
Freezing cold takes yeah ladies and
gentlemen Ian Rapport we appreciate you
thank you
can't do it can't do it no same thing
with Kirk that Kirk Herbstreit thing
when he was that there was a bend
remember he was sitting on like the edge of a bend
downhill so I saw that one
18 wheeler for the last mile before
it got to him and then that thing came like
a freight train two feet away from his head.
It's like, all right, Herbie, why don't we end this conversation?
You're going to ask him.
Go ahead, sir.
I was going to say, having Ian, we would obviously miss him if something terrible would happen.
But it goes without saying, this show would obviously be in dire straits with YouTube
if that were to happen live on the air.
Yeah, I mean, obviously.
Would we get in trouble?
No, as long as you don't go to a forest
where people are dead, you're fine.
Yeah, that clip of him getting hit
would fucking go huge.
Jesus.
Just thinking about that.
Because that was a thought I had.
I just want to let everybody know,
like, that's disgusting.
What's wrong with you guys?
There's no reason to even think about it.
I mean, they would take it down so fast.
Yeah, I'm just saying it would go.
Millions of views. You were going to ask a question, it. I mean, they would take it down so fast. Yeah, I'm just saying it would go millions of views.
You were going to ask a question, though.
That is, Baker.
Why Sam?
Not playing either.
Did you hear this, AJ?
Baker nor Sam Darnold playing tonight in the Panthers-Patriots game.
They had joint practices the last couple days.
P.J. Walker will take first and third quarter.
Matt Corral will take second and fourth quarters.
Mack Jones of the Patriots, he will be playing, though.
What do you think?
What's this all about?
You think Matt Rule's smarter than Bill Belichick?
I have no clue.
What a way to frame a question.
Obviously, I don't think that right now.
I wasn't listening to that final question you threw in there.
It's pretty good, though.
But, yeah, why?
I don't get it. I mean, Baker's the starter, right?
So he just doesn't want to put Sam in?
That has not been officially announced.
I know it's not official, but does he not want to get Sam hurt
in case they can try to trade him?
Does he say, hey, Sam, I'm going to take care of you here too?
If Baker's not dressing, I'm not going to make you dress and play?
How does that work?
I don't know, and why isn't Baker playing?
If he's your starter, why isn't he fucking playing?
Yeah, and don't risk it, maybe.
It could make sense with Donald because Donald didn't have have a great week and if they are trying to trade him
and he goes out there and you know maybe he doesn't play that well then there's a chance like
okay now there's no chance we can get rid of so the conversation we're having you don't think nfl
gms are gonna have to like well why are they potentially just trying they will but at least
they don't know if they're like he didn't play in the game they're like we don't have i don't know
maybe they say well it's a little bit of a mystery let's bring him in i think he's still all right
no yeah that's what they'll say before giving a call to bill or anybody in new england like hey
how'd donald look against you guys i guess if sam gets in he gets hurt then there's absolutely
zero trade possibility what if what if bill belichick tells whoever calls to ask about
how sam donald was in joint practices, he goes, everybody thought Gase was the problem.
Gase got fucked, dude.
He does love Gase.
Yeah, he does.
What if he was just like, yeah, Sam Darnold stinks.
This guy, he's the one that got him seeing
ghosts right at one point? Uh-huh, that was his rookie year.
What if Bill Belichick firmly believes
Sam Darnold is a terrible football player
and Adam Gase got bamboozled in this entire thing?
I believe it. I bet you could probably see Gase on the staff next year.
And Donald, do they have to pay the entire 18-6 week one?
And that starts similar to June 3rd?
Oh, he won't be there.
I think because they already gave him his fifth year, I think it's already guaranteed.
It's already.
Okay.
I'm pretty sure.
Yeah, I think so.
The past your fifth year in the NFL, if you're on the roster first week, an entire year's salary is due.
So that's for veteran men.
That's for whatever big contract it is.
That is how that whole thing plays out.
Yeah, just like bingo.
Just bingo.
There's no way that Sam Darnold is getting traded.
Like, you see what's happening.
They can't fucking trade Jimmy G.
The guys went to a Super Bowl.
Sam Darnold's won six games in the NFL in like five years.
Who the fuck's trading for him?
Why isn't he playing tonight?
Yes.
Why is he not playing?
Hey, Rule, let us see Sam Darnold throw nine picks tonight.
Please.
That'll help you out, right?
That helps Matt Rule out with his fans saying,
this is why we're starting Baker Mayfield.
This is why we're doing this.
I don't understand the motive here.
Because wouldn't you want Baker to get more reps?
Have they asked to follow up to rule?
I guess after the game they will, but have they yet?
By the way, I like P.J. Walker a lot.
Maybe they're trying to move P.J.
Corral, you probably want to see more of him.
Could still do all these things.
Because he might be the guy next year.
Sam needs to go.
Now, no offense to these two guys who you're going to watch play tomorrow.
Not that they're not terrible already.
But if anything happens to Jared Goff, I mean.
They're so fucked.
The Lions?
Tim Boyle and David Blau.
David Blau, we learned a lot about in the last Hard Knocks episode.
Yeah.
And I want to let everybody know, boots on the ground with the NFL Film Squad.
I did let them know episode two was awesome.
Who gives a fuck about David Blah?
I need more MCDC.
I did say that.
It's about his girlfriend or fiance or whoever.
His wife.
She's not online.
No, listen, she's racing for Columbia.
I got massive respect for them being
an incredibly athletic family,
professional and everything like that.
Who cares about David Blau?
Who cares?
No offense, David Blau.
Who fucking cares?
That's what Hard Knocks does, though.
They highlight people that people usually don't get a bunch of shine.
Yeah, like at the tight end position, like, hey,
this fourth, fifth tight end is about to make a team change.
David Blau?
Why are we wasting time?
DFP.
When we got Deuce Staley there,
mic'd up every day.
We got Kelvin Shepard,
hilarious human,
a great coach too.
He's my MCDC.
He's there every day.
What are we doing with David Ball?
Now, maybe that's why
they're doing David Baha, because they
forecast a potential Jared
Goff situation. David Baha's leading that
team to victory with MCDC,
riding an actual lion onto the field before the
game. I mean, you hit the nail on the head.
No, you know,
disrespect, but the only time you
showcase guys like David
Baha and those other guys is when your
coaches have the personality
of my left nut and these guys don't.
They're explosive and they're unbelievable.
So let's fucking see these guys, okay?
Is David Blah even going to make the team?
Are the Lions going to carry three quarterbacks this year?
Well, let's talk about the personality of your left nut.
I mean, real high football IQ down there?
No, I'm saying if the head coach on Hard Knocks is fucking boring
as shit, again, you know, like when they
did the Falcons and Mike Smith was on there. He was
great, but he's not giving them any sound
clips, so they're showing a bunch of the players.
That makes sense. You have
hours and hours and
hours and hours of footage of Dan
Campbell saying awesome shit, and
you're just cutting
98% of it. Do you think it's because they
do hold... It was pre-production. They already
filmed that before camp started, no question.
Her running on the track, so they got to use it.
That could be true. And they had that clip of
him celebrating her at the Olympics.
That was on the NFL's Instagram.
We don't need to tell her, though. I have respect
for the NFL film's creative
process. Absolutely. I have massive respect
for it. They're Scorsese of the NFL,
like everything they do.
But don't feel all good
if you're showcasing any of these fucking stories
if you're not MC.
If you got the big, dumb meathead MC DC up there,
not that he's dumb,
but that is how he is being casted.
Well, find out who they've filmed with,
who they have this footage in the can
that they're going to put in the next episodes.
It's like American Idol.
You know, back in the day,
if you're watching the show, if they
start showing a backstory on somebody,
obviously they got through because they're
filming their family and stuff before. No, they do that
now. America's Got Talent has a backstory
on everybody. Okay. Back in the day,
it was like that. Does the Masked Singer do that too?
Alright, let's get into it.
By the way, we didn't get MC DC
on the show yesterday or two days ago at training camp
and
that was a bummer.
They stopped practice 15 minutes early.
That ride practice is too efficient.
It was too efficient.
They stopped practice early.
So MCDC's post-practice everything was 15 minutes early.
Jim Irsay was right in the middle of a speech.
Wow.
MCDC would have been able to come on.
There's actually a clip of him choosing to leave instead of wait around because he said,
I'm not waiting for 15 minutes.
He had to press the amount of shit that he had to do.
So we are very bummed that we missed out on MCDC.
And we would like to say, like Hard Knocks also,
if you would have,
they did have Jim.
Let's feed us Jim Irsay,
Jerry Jones, MCDC.
These people we don't see a lot of.
David Blau.
No offense, David Blau.
David Blau.
Tom Brady, not practiced still.
And this has become
a massive conversation
among some parties and some circles, including Antonio Brown.
Antonio Brown has commented about the Tom Brady situation.
Now, he did tell TMZ just about a week ago on a strip somewhere
that he's still open, he misses Tom Brady, loves Tom Brady.
Then he put a tweet out basically saying,
Tom Brady finesses the system, misses 14 days, get his mind right, LOL.
Here we go.
Tom Brady manipulate the game, gets 14 days, go home, get his mind right, LOL.
Now you see the difference.
Put that shit on.
Put that shit on.
I mean, it's growing on me.
Absolutely.
It's growing on everybody.
By the way, you're about to see it, a lot of it.
I already have.
I've already seen it a few times.
The kids, too?
Kids in your Ohio?
Not as much kids. I've been trying to teach my kids that,
but they haven't seen much of A.B.'s rap album.
Well, tell your kids Hendrix put that shit on,
and maybe they'll be able to learn that and kind of get through it all.
Antonio Brown talking about the situation with Tom Brady.
And I don't think it's yet been described what Tom Brady's doing,
so now it's conspiracy fodder everywhere.
Rap Report came on the show, and while we were talking to him live, this was something that
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers had known about going in. Who knows how many people in the building
knew about it, but at least Todd Bowles knew about it and probably other people in powerful positions.
They said he'd be back in like nine days. Now it's like, we don't know when he'll be back.
We think he'll be back for the first
regular season game pretty sure of that so what is something that has a beginning date that was
planned but doesn't have an end date we thought when he retired for those few days he and Giselle
and his family maybe scheduled something a party an event that they have missed for the last 50
years while he was playing in the NFL and then once once he decided to go back, Gisele and the family were like, Dad, what the
fuck? Another one. And he was like,
well, I will make it a demand
that if I do come back, I have to be able
to go do this thing with my family
in the middle of training camp. And the people
that were in power said, hey, all good.
You got to do what you got to do. We understand completely. We're
in the football life as well.
But now that there's no end date, that is
interesting. And the internet, both on Reddit and Fantasy Life Podcast,
a lady, I believe, I never, I do not remember her name,
so I apologize.
He's on a mass singer they're saying.
This dude, you know, he signed that deal with Fox
to be a game ambassador and a commentator.
And he's getting $375 million over 10 years whenever he retires.
Greg Olson, Kevin Burkhart currently manning that spot.
Tom Brady will be dropped in there when he retires.
And the reason why there's no end date, and they don't know when he'll be back,
because who knows when Tom Brady's going to give up.
He's going to have a goat head on him, obviously.
He's going to do his whole thing.
We'll see that.
There's no way that Fox says, hey, remember, you told us you'd be on Masked Singer,
you on Miss Training Camp,
with Fox hiring him to be an NFL ambassador, right?
So I don't know if it's Masked Singer,
but this is gaining steam on the internet,
and it makes sense that there's no end date.
With that being said, NFL has literally,
Fox has literally survived off the NFL.
So I would love to hear the conversation
between Fox and tom brady
going we're paying you 375 million dollars at some point right you need to do mass singer in
the middle of fucking training come on that's what would have had to happen right for that to take
place that seems like not possible but maybe aj where the fuck is this guy you think i aren't like
all the you know internet sleuths out there trying to track his plane
or what he may be doing?
I would imagine they're on him somewhere, right?
Go ahead, Connor.
Well, and that's the other thing, too.
When he was on vacation with his family in Italy on a yacht,
there were still photos of him on that yacht that the press got in Italy.
So if he was on vacation with Gisele, with the family,
you'd assume there'd be a shit ton of press either spotting him
or knowing that this is where he is and that's what came out.
Weird things lean up to it too, though.
When they lay out the timeline, like he scheduled off day,
then they practiced, then he missed two or missed one and was back and then gone.
Like there was a weird – I read something where they laid out
like the five days before he left too.
What has a beginning date but not an end date?
Court.
I don't know how many people knew.
That's just
something i'm just not that he's there i'm just saying that is something no but there is like
what would it be honestly is it are people worried it's some kind of injury thing or some kind of
treatment he's getting maybe it's a surgery that's happening taking place that why wouldn't you have
to you have to disclose it on the injury report eventually so peyton like for instance peyton's
next shit we did not know until when they say when you over in Germany or whatever getting regenechine or all that yeah you
got to remember like there was a time uh not a baby mitt just cutting right to the talks table
to get a good reaction mid-sentence there I love you mitt this guy is awesome but remember I've
I think I've told this story publicly mitt you're doing a great job I've told this story publicly
that I was you know like summoned to the training room almost in training camp.
And I get in there and fucking Peyton's got all these wires coming out of them.
And they're like working on like, well, I apparently did not train hard enough for the amount of times we're going to punt this season, it appears.
And it kind of got dropped out of nowhere.
Then we end up signing Kerry Collins in the middle of training camp.
I believe he was actually hunting at the time they called him
to bring him out of the farm to come play again,
and Curtis Painter and Orlovsky.
So this is potentially, maybe it's an injury,
maybe it's a surgery that they just didn't want to let everybody know,
but then why is he coming back from a tire?
Yes, exactly.
None of it makes sense to me, honestly.
This is speculation, though.
When we don't have any information, it's such a unique thing,
and it feels like not a whole lot of people were in the know.
That's when everyone just wild speculation, just like alien stuff.
Same kind of thing.
You see the moon.
You say this has got to be a UFO.
I am not tying Tom Brady's situation in military camp with aliens.
Yeah, could see him going back to a planet to save his civilization, though,
if that might be the case.
That does have a start date not an end date.
I appreciate the fact that we have got to this point
with this but yeah to add on
to what you were saying
all these conversations happen
because this has never really happened
before. No.
There is no real intel
or insight and the way Todd Bowles is
talking about like we're hopeful he'll be back by week one.
That's the weird thing. Nobody knows anything.
And it's Tom fucking Brady.
Like, it's not just some guy.
It's the face of the league for the last 20 years.
How does he? That's what I'm saying.
I land in the middle of bumfuck
nowhere at 2.30 a.m.
There'll be six
people. I won't
call them. Marks.
No. Sacks of shit. Yes. Out there with garbage bags waiting on me, right? And people, I won't call them marks.
Sacks of shit.
Yes. Out there with garbage bags waiting on me, right? And obviously
me and Tom Brady, much different levels of
society and life, but everything
is tracked these days. Literally everything.
So are they just locking themselves
in a house and going through some stuff
and turning all their phones off?
And like, hey, we're going to have Amish month.
Is that what they're doing? What about like
Survive Alaska where you
win the award for how long
you can survive in the wilderness by yourself?
Yeah, but he would have had to take a flight at some time to
Alaska and somebody would have been like, oh, there's fucking
Tom's plane going right to Alaska.
There'd be pictures of him getting on the plane or something.
Yeah, that's why it's not a family vacation. It's a black ops situation.
Because there would have been photos already of them
on vacation. Maybe he's downrange.
If he was on vacation.
Maybe he is downrange.
Giselle is from a very small village in Brazil.
So maybe it is something with her side of the family and they're down there.
And it's definitely not the most developed region of Brazil.
Yeah, but if he was to land in Brazil from where Giselle lives, I think somebody would have.
When he was in Italy, they weren't at a resort or anything.
They were on their own yacht, and there were still photos.
People tried to come back.
What's that?
When do you think he comes back then?
Well, that's the thing.
We were told the 20th, right?
The 11th to the 20th.
It was nine days.
That would be tomorrow.
Monday.
But now the speculation is like,
well, we don't know when he's going to be back.
It's like, okay, so if it was preplplanned and you don't know when he's coming back but maybe they're on
some fucking trip maybe they're on some ayahuasca trip or some big cruise like a disney cruise with
the kids that has an end date yeah and they would know maybe they want to go to a couple of them if
it was mass singer there would definitely be photos of him in LA too.
Because Disney cruises aren't cheap either.
Yeah, him traveling at, I understand, Disney cruises.
We haven't bit the bullet yet.
They're too expensive right now, I feel like.
Okay, well, I appreciate you getting it out there
that Disney cruises seem to be a little bit...
I hear they're very, very nice
and they set up very well for parents and the kids.
But it sounds like a little bit of a scam.
You're saying I haven't bit the bullet for how expensive it is.
You guys go on 10 vacations every month,
so Disney Cruises maybe should listen to that.
A family that does spend money, a lot of it is looking at your cruise going,
I heard it's great, but come on.
So maybe Tom Brady isn't looking at it the same way you are with his kids.
But if he was to buy a Disney Cruise ticket,
before he could even get whatever fake name he has in there,
they'd be like, oh, this is for Tom Brady and Giselle coming on disney cruise it would just that's what i think is so interesting like
they are tom and giselle so somebody's gonna find them also the stuff with bowls like he knows about
what it is but then he's saying he's hopeful he'll be back for week one so like he knows what it is
but he has no idea how much time he's actually going to miss. That doesn't really make sense either.
What has a beginning date but not an end date?
I like Connor's angle where he might be at a Vuvuzela in Brazil,
like just hanging out.
A Vuvuzela is the...
Could be at a favela.
That's what I meant.
Vuvuzela is Vuvuzela.
You can see the confusion, though.
You really hope it isn't the case, but it would make sense to.
Or if his mom is sick again or a family member is sick.
But they said it was planned.
They shouldn't lie to us if that's the case.
Maybe it's a planned surgery.
Something could have happened to keep him longer.
Treatment for something is also planned.
So medical is definitely coming into play here, right?
Yes, but I don't think it's his medical
because he wouldn't have come back if he had a surgery he had to get done.
We hope obviously it's nothing bad, but this is an interesting situation.
All seriousness aside, it could be going back to –
All seriousness aside?
Yeah.
Okay, so we're going back to the aliens.
Yeah, sure.
Here we go.
Yeah, AJ brought it up, but this could be the time of year or the time,
like it could be an every 20-year thing where he does have to shed his skin
and grow new skin so he couldn't be at camp for that.
To Tony's point, too, there are a lot of theories on the internet
that Gisele can tell through the stars what type of season Tom is going to have,
a la his MVP seasons and his Super Bowl seasons,
and maybe this is kind of part of that as well.
So they took a trip?
Yeah.
To go trip?
He doesn't have to.
Just she does.
She's very good at reading the stars and the signs.
So he's watching the house like I had to do.
Exactly.
When Sam went on Girls' Trade.
He's watching the house.
He's got to watch his kids.
She's on.
While Giselle is going to.
The summit of Mount Everest.
With Adele?
Look as close as possible.
Think he's doing ayahuasca?
No, I don't think he's doing that.
Could be a whole different kind of trip.
You know what I mean?
What dimension is he in?
Sixth?
Seventh?
Like a swingers trip?
No.
Smooching bungholes.
Smooching bunghole trip.
All right, let's get to.
Okay. Let's get to a break. I don't know what the problem is here we can't
talk about anything how about him all seriousness aside no shit coming from you it's the first time
i've ever heard someone say that it confused me all jokes exactly confused me hey that's next
level yeah all seriousness aside,
10 digs. Yeah.
That is amazing.
Well, I just
wanted to say that
because if it does
come back, there is
something serious.
I wanted to make
sure that was on
there.
Oh, yeah, because
your conscience.
Just joshing around.
But seriously, what
does have a beginning
date, not an end
date?
That is what we
should be trying to
figure out.
Maybe it's treatment
of some sort.
Maybe it is medical.
Maybe it is who
knows. Well, and something that everyone on the team is okay some sort. Maybe it is medical. Maybe it is who knows.
Well, and something that everyone on the team is okay with, too.
Not everybody.
I don't think everybody knows.
They have to be.
Well, yeah, they're forced to be because it's fucking Tom Brady.
True.
Hey, you want me to retire or not?
No, please come back.
Well, I'm going to miss because of hour three is on a 10-minute break.
See you.
Yeah, nailed it.
10-minute break, too.
Let's go.
Bro.
When will we get some clarity on this?
Ever?
Never.
When he comes back, he still won't.
And we won't.
Well, Jim Gray won't ask.
No.
Well, Tom, what did you have for lunch when you were gone?
Was it Morton's Steakhouse?
Because they have 15% off.
There is a chance.
There is a chance there's another episode of Man in the Arena
at the end of this season.
And then there will probably be a reveal on what it was.
But what?
He'll probably make, you know what?
He'll put a video.
When he comes back, he's going to put one of those videos out.
Like when he threw the ball in the jugs machine and it came right back.
Something like that.
Maybe a hole in one.
And he hit the moon.
Yeah.
Maybe he's doing a show with a company or a partner that has first right of refusal all the time.
Yeah, 80 for Brady you're talking about?
Oh, no, that's a sweet movie that's coming out.
Yeah, I already finished filming that.
Sure.
Remember when AJ took you to that sex house in LA?
All right.
I do.
Actually, I was taken to that house.
I did not go on my own.
I actually did not volunteer.
I was dragged.
Hit in the pantry.
That was one of the greatest moments.
AJ, one of the greatest moments of all time.
Unfortunately, it was just me and you that had that great moment.
Yes.
I feel like we live vicariously through you with the story.
Oh, yeah.
We got a chance to go.
What a sex house, by the way.
Yeah, it was.
It feels like it was. We got a chance to go to numerous meetings when we were out in L. That was... Feels like it was.
We got a chance to go to numerous meetings when we were out in L.A.
AJ and I were invited.
And we went to a couple different spots, a couple different stops.
And there was...
You know, we got to go see one particular house.
It was amazing.
And we thought, there's no way this particular house gets upped ever again.
This is the nicest house we've ever been to.
Then we went to another meeting, house we've ever been to.
Then we went to another meeting, and we walked into the house.
Same similar type setup, and lo and behold, holy fuck,
this house is outdone the last house.
There was vaults and shit.
I mean, it was a full scene.
It was a sex house.
You can't actually. I just saw the chat scrolling.
What if he's got jury duty?
Well, he can't.
How come?
Because he's a popular, famous person.
Can't be in jury.
I was summoned to jury.
I was excited.
I was excited, pumped to do it.
I'm like, all right, give me a fucking murder case.
Give me nine months in this thing.
Give me nine months.
I want to go out of bed.
I want to actually do this you know because i watch
bull and i would dateline all these things and juries are such big conversation i want to do
my civic duty and then lo and behold wasn't able to do it because it was a violent crime i believe
and i'm a popular person so you can't be somebody that everybody knows i guess on a jury because
you might sway other people and also might be attacked afterwards. Sure.
So I don't think Tom Brady would be able to do that.
I'd be getting work done.
Choose this the time.
Well, when he retires, you know, the doctor, whatever doctor he goes to.
Liability, you mean?
No.
For the face, yeah.
For the face or for the body or anything.
Those appointments are tough to get. Yeah, they are.
And when you do the Tom Brady through the years scroll
from when he started in the NFL to this year,
he does not look like the same person.
We don't need to dive into that.
Okay, modern science.
You do whatever you need to do.
Of course.
What if he comes back with a new persona,
like a shaved head and a big beard?
What if he turns full heel?
Yeah, full heel.
Hollywood Hogan.
Special ops.
Where's the glasses, the wraparound shades?
Oh, that'd be awesome.
Wraparound shades. Under hisps. Where's the glasses? The wraparound shades? Oh, that'd be awesome. Wraparound shades.
Under his helmet.
Full sleeve of tattoos.
Yeah, what if he comes back Special Force?
And what'd you do?
Can't talk about it.
All right.
We get it, dude.
Ever watch Terminal List?
Yeah.
If he has a full sleeve of tattoos.
Well, Tony did say it.
I mean, that is something that has a start date and no end date,
is if you're going downrange. Yeah. Maybe he's just say it. I mean, that is something that has a start date and no end date is if you're going down range.
Yeah. Maybe he's just getting a tattoo, though, and they don't know.
Good. You know, because maybe
there's like four hours, five hours, six hours,
12 hours, 13 hours, 20 hours.
Got to be out of the sun. Nine days,
10 days, 12 days.
Rub on it and mess it up. What if he comes back
entire body fucking inked?
That'd be sweet. What if his whole body
is tattooed when he comes back?
Sorry, boys.
Had to go through
a little midlife crisis transformation.
That fits.
Fucking neck tattoo.
Yeah.
We didn't know how long
the tat was going to take.
We thought nine days
turned into 14.
Had to do a little extra touch up
and shading on the neck
in the Adam's apple.
That's why we had to do this.
That fits the new skin theory.
So, yeah.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Yeah.
It does.
New Tom. Yeah. It does. New Tom.
Yeah.
All seven titles tattooed on his forehead.
Can you imagine if he was downrange?
Probably is.
Taron watched eight episodes of Terminalist last night.
He was in there for nine hours.
Yeah, last two days.
Fucking ordered a new gun safe last night.
It's sweet, dude.
I can't believe you still got the cowboy hat.
I have had headaches, though, for the past two days,
so that's a problem with watching Turtles.
Here we go.
Howdy, baby.
Here we go.
Howdy, baby.
AJ, did you hit it?
Yeah, I got it.
I was a little early.
Well, I also saw you looking off camera,
probably because you had to put your little piss bottle down
that you were peeing underneath the desk
because you only gave you a minute and a half
to go ahead and relieve yourself.
We appreciate you joining us.
My left, your right, A.J. Hawk,
who's a college football national champion,
a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup champion,
and a COVID survivor, multi-time, multi-time.
Ain't that right, A.J.?
Multi, yes.
Drew Locke allegedly was suffering severe symptoms,
so I think he got OG1-9er COVID.
I've experienced that particular one and another bitch ass version of it.
We hope to go around.
I guess drew lock.
That's a big Carol said he was suffering some real symptoms from it.
Yeah.
Dang.
That was from the,
maybe the originator who got it in Seattle and gave it to everybody during
the dragons game.
Well,
that was the XFL originator.
Yeah.
But it wasn't,
I mean,
was that the first one in America?
That was when the season.
Station Zero?
It might have been.
It started in Washington, I thought.
No, I thought it was San Francisco.
It was West Coast, I thought.
Yeah.
Gwyneth Paltrow from that movie?
Contagion?
Yeah.
No.
Matt Damon?
I thought Tom Hanks was zero in the first case.
Oh, yeah.
In Australia.
Yeah.
And then.
He was in Australia.
Wait, was that real? Rudy Gobert had it.
Rudy Gobert got it after
the...
No, he had it probably during the batting of
everybody's microphone. He was a prick doing it.
That's why. Check the XFL
Dragons Nacho concession stand guy.
That was early. Because the XFL was one of the
first... Well, you know, he didn't make it.
He...
Paul Allen put a bullet in his it. He do, do. Yeah.
Paul Allen put a bullet in his head.
What?
Paul Allen's dead.
All seriousness aside.
All seriousness aside.
Of course.
Everybody needs to tighten up.
All right.
Everybody needs to tighten up right now.
Come on.
Tighten it up.
Tighten it up.
Tighten it up.
All right.
Talk to us.
Lock it in.
Lock it in.
That Boston Glock.
Hold it.
Tony Diggs is here.
Yes, there was an XFL Dragons concession stands worker
who potentially had COVID-19 pulling the nachos.
March 5th, that happened.
That was early.
That was before the Pelicans when you announced Zion.
Yeah, because people were still going out that year
for St. Paddy's Day, which is two weeks after fucking.
That shut down the XFL, though.
That particular case shut down the XFL that one weekend,
which led into the bankruptcy,
which led into Dwayne Rock Johnson and Danny Garcia buying it,
and the XFL about to become the second biggest league of all time.
Yes.
Actually, the employee who worked at the game on February 22nd
tested positive on March 5th, so...
Oh, boy.
It might have been him first.
He might be patient, Zero.
I'm doing this one more time, and I'm going to fucking get Drew Locke
because I've been watching Geno, and he ain't the guy.
It's Drew.
And I'm going to give him COVID right now.
This was a year ago.
Yeah, he might have said that.
Two years ago.
He might have said that today.
Three years ago.
He might have said that last week or this week on Monday.
I feel like yesterday all the time kind of runs together,
but we are in the middle of the second preseason week,
although it's the third week of games.
AJ, I called for the NFL to cancel the Hall of Fame
game in the first hour. Would you like to echo those sentiments?
Yeah, I don't.
I would imagine fans wouldn't be too
happy, but players, coaches, GMs,
owners, all of them would be very excited.
Make it an event.
Would you still have both teams there, though?
No. Fuck no. Just the Hall of Fame?
Yeah, alumni, vets.
Yeah, you could make it pretty cool without a game.
You're right.
Take a whole weekend of things for everybody to come and interact with everybody.
Ceremony, concerts.
Like a fair.
It's almost like a state fair.
Yes, like a Hall of Fame festival.
How about one guy?
The guy that does magic and he's funny that you saw.
Mighty Mike. Yes. Mighty about one guy? The guy that does like magic and he's funny that you saw. Mighty Mike.
Yes. Mighty Mike leads off the entire thing. He's on
Thursday night and then just have the
Chris Angel too. Definitely Chris Angel.
Of course. Definitely Chris Angel.
Imagine him in one of the wings of the Hall of Fame just saying
I'm sleeping here all weekend. No food, no water.
Yeah. That'd be awesome. That'd be booked already.
David Blaine. Get Dave Baker in like a
dunk tank or something.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
But what we're saying is the game is pointless, dude.
Think about that.
That was a week and a half before the first preseason weekend.
Think about how big of a waste that is for every team building.
Now, I respect the Hall of Fame.
That's why I think it should be a festival.
Like, let's celebrate this.
But there's no reason to have that Hall of Fame game even exist.
I mean, the only thing we learned from that was what?
Josh Jacobs or Josh McDaniels don't like Josh.
It's basically all we got out of it.
They did like a seven-on-seven of Hall of Famers.
Like, just the guys from Hall of Fame who want to play.
Who can play, who can't play.
Plenty of them, too.
Like, we've seen T.O., Randy Moss definitely can still play.
Barry Sanders, he can still go.
Barry.
Have them play Flip Cup.
Yes.
Just have the Hall of Fame Festival, a celebration of it,
because we are now in preseason week two.
Last night kicked off with the Bears traveling to Seattle
and smacking them right in the fucking mouth.
Today, the Panthers and Patriots play each other at 7-0-1.
Patriots will play Mack Jones and some starters.
Panthers will play, allegedly, their third and fourth string quarterbacks,
P.J. Walker in the first and third quarters,
and Matt Corral in the second and fourth quarters.
We all seem to like the Patriots, even though the spread has moved to six.
That's a lot of points.
Bill Belichick's watched that Panthers defense play all week.
With Matt Jones playing, let's assume they get the dub.
Saints at Packers tonight.
Packers favored by three.
Giordo will be taking on.
Jameis is playing a little bit, or no?
I have not heard a peep from the Saints, but it did move to two and a half,
so I don't know if something creeped out.
Okay, so maybe Jameis is playing.
We do not know what's happening there.
How do you feel about the Packers tonight?
Allegedly, and we missed this, we're bad media just like everybody else,
that statement publicly to the media from Aaron Rodgers about wide receivers running the wrong routes and dropping balls and everything where he sounded like a coach almost. It sounded like,
hey, coach Aaron Rodgers right now trying to demand a little accountability through public
means, which coaches have done for a long, long time. They've utilized their press conferences
to put pressure on players at different positions to perform well. Bill Polian did it to me one time.
The year we were 2-14, at one point we were 0-8, 0-9. On the
Bill Pullian show, when he was asked why the team
isn't winning, he said, well, Pat Mackey doesn't know
how to directionally punt. And I'm like, well,
okay, I don't know if it's my fault why we're 0-9,
but it does feel like Bill Pullian's saying,
hey, fucking guy, maybe start evolving
a little bit. And I kind of took it. But Aaron
also in that same, I guess,
set of remarks there about the wide receivers
said, Jordan Love's stats got fucked because these wide receivers were in the wrong spot.
So he's actually sticking up for Jordan Love, I think.
We should see a much better wide receiver unit,
and Jordan Love probably going to ball out with this whole thing.
You like the Packers tonight in this preseason game?
That means absolutely nothing without the MVP play?
Yeah, I do because Jordan Love, I know from every report we've seen,
he looks pretty good in camp, hasn't he?
He's definitely improved, has a feel for the offense. because Jordan Love, I know from every report we've seen, he looks pretty good in camp, hasn't he?
He's definitely improved, has a feel for the offense.
So him and you couple that with some receivers that obviously have a – definitely have a sense of urgency to make some plays and do some things.
Even though Aaron won't be in there, they still want to make plays
and kind of write what they feel may be wrong a little bit.
Let's see. I don't know.
I mean, preseason games, how do you pick a winner though?
When you get to the second half, who knows what can happen.
That's what we're doing right now.
Who has the better quarterbacks.
So, yeah, I'll take – yeah, right now I'll take – what's the line?
Two and a half.
Packers are favorites?
Yep.
Yeah, I'll take the Packers.
Yeah, us too.
100%.
Danny Etlin came in last week and balled out the third stringer for the Packers.
Yeah, and he's got wheels.
He can move?
He had like a 75-yard
touchdown in preseason a couple years ago.
Like guys that can move in preseason.
That's why P.J. Walker potentially a problem.
And then, yeah, for the Saints, you got
the red rifle and then Ian Book.
Hey, Andy Dalton, you're getting
dunked on in the first hour. I did not like it.
Everybody was shitting on him.
It wasn't me.
Zito, shitting on Andy Dalton. How long is the Red Rocket Nah, it wasn't me. It was on him. Zito, shit on him.
How long is the Red Rocket playing?
We don't know.
We don't know.
We haven't heard anything from St.
How long is the O-line going to block for him?
Well, they help him up if he gets decapitated.
These are all questions.
Does the number one D play much for the Packers?
Because that's a big difference.
That D is serious.
Yes, very good.
But I guess they're very deep too, right?
I think let's get back to that Packers game real quick because there is something we have to talk about randall cobb og member of
that wide receiver room he came out and spoke about what aaron said and he's like yeah these
motherfuckers need to know like we will cut them like you either do your job or you get the standard
around here is the standard if you ain't it get the hell out of here you like this whole thing
or don't like this whole thing it's drama coming out of camp which is never good but it feels like at least there's enough time the ogs that are still
around are trying to be like hey this is how this goes around here which is good i guess in the post
of vante adams era yeah i like it i don't think it's that big of a deal and i think part of it
too maybe is like for the first time like you know with all the stuff that's coming out uh about
rogers with like the ayahuasca and like youahuasca, and he's loving his teammates more.
I think it maybe is just a reminder to these guys who haven't proven anything in the league.
Hey, shit isn't sweet here.
You have to earn your keep.
Devonta Adams isn't here anymore.
There isn't the best receiver in the NFL.
Everyone who is in that room is going to have to contribute.
And if they don't, Rodgers isn't the kind of guy who's like, we've seen it in years past.
Like if you don't have his trust, you're not going to be out there.
He's not going to throw you the ball.
And, you know, I think the reporter said, like, do you think those guys appreciate it?
And yeah, Randall was just like, well, it doesn't fucking matter if they appreciate
it.
Like this is the way it is here.
And we've had guys who have been successful when you've had you know like generational players for basically from far right into rogers like what
why would you expect anything to change like that that's the way things are if you can't uh get on
board with that then you're probably not going to be playing i think it's okay so i guess that's
what we're looking at in that game like how the wide receivers look almost like what are the wide
and we didn't expect to have that be a focal point of any of these games but i guess after davante you're trying to look and see who it is yeah but now
it's like if jordan love does have a pick or ettinger has a pick or whatever it's like all
right let's do pro football focus real quick did these does that look like that wide receiver ran
the right route and none of us will know the answer other than the quarterback and the wide
receiver at the time well and we talked about it last week if rogers is actually you know calling
some plays and like he,
he's definitely paying pretty close attention to how these guys are running
the routes, like, and all that kind of stuff.
So I think there is some value there.
All right.
So tonight will be great games this weekend.
Lions and Colts wrap up their joint practices tomorrow.
1 PM.
You want to come back game AJ?
When is it tomorrow?
Saturday?
Yeah.
Sunday.
What is it?
Friday today?
No, I can't.
All right.
Thank you, though.
No problem at all.
I would like to let you know that I started that sentence with,
All right, tomorrow, the Lions and the Colts take each other.
You know, I did.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Ever since COVID, I get the days mixed up a lot.
Well, you just weren't listening.
That was the problem.
Well, that's what I'm saying, though.
I do, too.
It's possible.
Especially last night.
Did you see them just mail it in? Monday Night Football, Monday Night Football, Monday Night Football. Couldn't even add, like, on a Thursday. Like, you know what I'm saying, though. I do, too. It's possible. Especially last night. Did you see them just mail it in?
Monday Night Football, Monday Night Football, Monday Night Football.
Couldn't even add, like, on a Thursday.
Like, you know what I mean?
Are they just trying to make sure we hear Monday Night Football
and get that back in our brains?
I guess because Dan's calling, like, three games this year,
so that is certainly something that we want on our brains.
When is he doing them?
Is there doubleheaders three times?
Is that why?
He says he's got a game, what, next week or something like that?
I think there's a game next week, and then he's got two during the season.
Yeah, probably doubleheader stuff. The first week is definitely a doublehead what, next week or something like that? I think there's a game next week, and then he's got two during the season. Yeah, probably doubleheader stuff.
The first week is definitely a doubleheader, I think, right?
The first Monday night they do the really late night Monday night game,
which I'm sure these guys will have.
No, there's two Eastern Standard Times.
Tennessee and –
Oh, that's right.
Week two there's one, a doubleheader.
Yeah, they change it for the first week.
I think Joe and Troy got the Pacific time, the late one.
I think.
Yeah, I think you're right.
Because it was Tennessee and somebody else.
What are the games?
So it's week two, Titans and Bills.
Yeah, Titans and Bills.
That's the one Dan's called.
And then it's week eight.
What?
Yeah, what's the other game?
The Vikings and Eagles.
That's on ABC.
Ah.
Week 8, they're doing the first exclusive NFL game on ESPN+,
which is in Wembley.
Oh.
Is that Dan?
And then week 18 is the normal ABC ESPN Saturday doubleheader.
Yes.
Oh.
Three games.
Well, then playoffs.
I think they're doing a Saturday game, aren't they?
Yeah, definitely.
They normally do.
Super wildcard weekend?
Two, three, one, right?
Four games.
Because they also have the Monday night football game now on super wildcard weekend.
My guess is that Troy and Joe probably do Saturday and Monday.
Could be. I don and Monday. Oh.
Could be. I don't know. Maybe.
How about Dan and Boyd? Yeah.
Or Riley got it.
ESPN's out, though.
After the first Super Wild Card weekend,
isn't that the last game ESPN has? Yes.
I did not know that. You just told me something.
Because then it's just CBS
Fox, and then is Fox.
Fox is, no.
NBC.
Why can't they just add on on a Thursday?
I mean, it's just.
NBC is not the Super Bowl this year, but they do have games during the
divisional and, I thought, the championship Sunday.
I will say the reason why I'm so passionate about this is because last
night watching the game, my wife and I both thought it was Monday for 15
minutes. Yeah. And, you know, that's the game, my wife and I both thought it was Monday for 15 minutes.
Yeah.
And, you know, that's on me and my wife.
But honestly, it said Monday Night Football,
Monday Night Football, Monday Night Football
three times on the screen.
And we were just like going through our life.
Like, oh, about to be a long week.
I was thinking, like, God damn.
Jesus Christ.
It is Monday.
You've done four shows already.
What is happening?
I was at training camp.
I mean, what's going on?
I was starting to think that. And then I was like, Sam, I got to go to fucking Canada tomorrow. It is Monday. We've done four shows already. What is happening? I was at training camp. I mean, what's going on? I was starting to think that.
And then I was like, Sam, I got to go to fucking Canada tomorrow.
It is Thursday.
Weekend's right around the corner, actually.
Pretty excited about it.
And then I thought to myself, why don't you just...
Dirty.
Dirty.
Dirty.
Yep.
How hard is that to handle on a Thursday?
Into a graphic or something like that?
Probably take me about two seconds.
Whoa!
So I think the big deal is,
we've dealt with those big graphics
where it's like,
oh, you've got to have all these graphics in by next,
like last week.
Ah, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
You're not talking about the size of the graphic.
You're talking about the company?
Yeah.
So last week they didn't realize
that it was on a Thursday?
I mean, that's just like a little tiny thing.
Was this game flexed or what?
Yeah.
I did hear this morning, though, that
you think they'll flex
Texans-Browns
week 13 to Sunday Night Football?
Oh, dude.
If they're both dog shit.
And then everybody's going to say it's a work.
This is continuing to be a work because now they've got a
Texans-Browns game that people care about on week 13. There's got to say it's a work. This is continuing to be a work because now they've got a Texans-Bronz game
that people care about on week 13.
Yeah, there's got to be other games.
Hey, there's people breaking this down from all angles right now on TV
and all of them, and I don't know enough about it,
but I don't think there's one person that has a microphone and says,
I thought it was going to be a season.
Did we not all think that was going to be a season after Roger Goodell comes out
and calls him a predator and everything like that?
He said nonviolent, whatever.
That's why it's settled right I assume
it was the season and they settled on 11 but there was an angle that was also being painted
that Deshaun didn't want to settle like he did not necessarily want to say he's potentially backing
out but who knows they agreed to terms I guess four hours before it was released five hours
before it was released and it took a little bit to sign because there is believe it or not when
you agree to terms somebody uh there is a chance that they just add in the asterisks of the contract
just a lot of fuckery, like a lot of it.
And it's like, well, these weren't the terms that we agreed to.
These certainly change the terms too, don't they, don't you think?
Well, this is standard operating procedure.
Well, now it's fucking me.
Could have been the way it went down,
and they did take a little bit to kind of
get the ball in the end zone on the half half yard line but them getting a deal done i think
ultimately in my eyes um was much better for deshaun whether deshaun knows that or not i think
we all were expecting a year i think yeah and that's why the conversation is the conversation
i think and part of the thought had to be like if we do give him a year and then he sues, which he probably told him like, hey, if they give me a year, we're going to take them to court.
And then this thing just continues to be a storyline for the next however many weeks.
Because even with this whole appeal process, we thought we were getting a result last week.
And then the week before that, there's even whisperings like, hey, keep your eye out.
There might be some sort of settlement reached or some sort of agreement or ruling on it.
And it lasted two more weeks.
Yeah, it's going to be forever.
What about the fine?
I've heard people say that the fine's not enough.
If the fine's 50 mil, it still doesn't have the impact they think.
Yes, and we talked about that from a reality perspective because of what was being alleged
and the people that have been affected by that and how passionate and for a good reason they are to these types of situations and allegations
like no matter what the punishment was people were going to be pissed if he wasn't banned from
the nfl there are some people that were going to be mad and by the way never going to change
their opinion and they will be able to explain exactly why they feel that way because what they've
been through with either family member or friend or men themselves included. So you just got to expect like, hey, these people are passionate about this
for good reason.
Now there's other people I think, I guess, I haven't heard much about them,
maybe his quarterback coach Quincy Avery, is that his name?
Yeah.
Quincy Avery has come out numerous times in his defense saying, you know,
talking about maybe they were expecting no suspension at all.
Maybe after the appeal they were thinking no more games would be added.
I think that's a small. And then there's a lot of us that are just like come the fuck like
this is not great it should at least should be this but with precedent being said and punishment
and lawyers and all this shit uh will anything ever be decided right probably not going forward
you know nobody's gonna be happy not everybody's gonna be happy with any decision ever made i think
when it involves something like this no you can't there's no it's yeah
there's just too many layers to it and also deshaun got fined five mil what are his lawyer
fees three four mil you think i have no idea probably crazy amount yeah made 10 mil last year
what's that you made 10 million dollars last year and you didn't buy so yeah but there's another
666 666 dollars that is being taken away from his newest deal
in those first 12 weeks in which he's being suspended and won't get game checks.
So just from last year's money, he can pay for everything.
Well, pre-tax.
Oh, yeah.
Pre-tax because you've got to pay the fine post-tax.
The massage thing is weird, too, that they had to put those stipulations in.
They had to be okayed by the team and all of that.
Is he even going to – I wouldn't like i'm not getting massaged like well i would imagine
he'd be a little scared of getting massages from now on you would think how about the people having
to give them a son yeah how do they not just hire one person to be with him the team hire one person
that's okay you're only getting massages from this so we'll say this as somebody who has known
multiple teammates who had different body gurus now everybody seemed to have their own shit though
which is the alarming part of this whole thing is like there's people that live and die by massages
like they believe that they cannot perform and won't perform unless they are getting their bodies
worked on a regular basis you've heard stories in the past of people, you know, drinking their own piss, fucking showering in wine,
like wearing weird stuff.
Like I think it's in Rookie of the Year.
Is it Rookie of the Year where the guy's a voodoo guy?
And he's like, it is like people.
Major League.
Since the beginning of time, athletes,
there's some athletes that have really gone to wild extremes
to either hold on to being a good player or to they think they have to
be a good player. Now, there's a whole bunch of research, I assume, trying to figure out whether
it's all mental or placebo or it actually works. And if they weren't to do all these things,
would their body be able to do the same exact fucking thing it was doing post all these things?
That is not up for conversation. I'm just telling you how some guys operate so there's a lot of body gurus and massage therapists and you know things like that that are
around professional athletes some guys are all the way in some guys are all the way out the alarming
thing is the amount right and then everybody's like well you're not really serious about it
because if you were serious about it you would want a similar person because that person learns
your body learns your reactions knows what's good,
what isn't good.
So it's like hard to kind of dive into it all.
Like that is kind of my,
because there is people that do a lot of massages throughout the year,
two,
three a week throughout a season,
almost some guys.
But then the numerous,
the, the,
the sheer quantity of them.
Yes.
Debunks exactly why those guys do three times a week.
So it's like I don't really understand this situation at all.
Bringing your own towel.
What is that?
Well, that's evidence.
I don't know if it's been mentioned or not.
I just didn't hear it or not.
He also, part of his reinstatement is contingent upon his compliance with a third-party evaluation and treatment.
Part of his reinstatement is contingent upon his compliance with a third-party evaluation and treatment. So someone has to say he's trying to get better or whatever the wording you want to use is that he's complying with his treatment.
What are those treatments, AJ?
Hey, listen, this is how you get a massage.
All right?
You let them bring a towel.
What is the treatment?
I mean, I would assume you've had, I don't know if you've had a DUI or not.
I've had buddies that have gotten them
and they have to go to like a three-day thing
where people sit and say how they're smoking crack off of people.
Listen, I have not got a DUI,
but I have heard about DUI camp in Ohio
from numerous friends of mine.
Yeah, it sounds like, man,
I learned how to be a real drug addict there.
It's called DUI camp in Ohio.
Really?
You get a DUI, you got to go to DUI camp. It's for an entire weekend like tracking weights it's like aa it's like aa i think but it's
dui sit in a circle and they like go around and talk about what they're in for and every person
i've known has gone like man i thought i had issues i am good to go i have no problem every
person that i know that's gone by the way from your town and other towns around from where you're
from have told me the same thing like the only thing i at DUI camp is that I got a ways to go before it's a real problem.
And I'm like, all right.
I'm like, why is that?
Well, this one guy said, I'm sorry.
If I'm eating wings, I have to have a Budweiser.
And that has really caught me caught up because the best wings aren't at my house.
They're somewhere else.
Like, those are the types of things that are happening
at these DUI camps in Ohio.
The most Ohioans are in there telling their stories
on why they got pulled over.
Normally, it revolves around them explaining
why this is an uncurable thing.
The stories I've heard out of DUI camp in Ohio is insane.
I have not gotten a DUI.
I was trying to walk the fuck home,
and I got arrested.
I wasn't accusing you.
I was just in case.
People live and learn.
But I did have to talk to a substance of abuse advisor
every single week for 27 months.
Which is similar to what Deshaun will speak to somebody
in his field of whatever.
Those first few weeks were quite a battle.
Every time I was asked, when was the last time you used?
And I'm like, all right.
You used.
I'm not even getting into that.
I didn't use it.
What, a drink?
Are you saying the last time I drank alcohol?
Did they really phrase it like that?
Yes.
Use alcohol.
Yeah, use.
You did the alcohol?
Well, I would like to.
The guy that I had to meet with every week for 27 months was a pastor.
He was an older man.
Good.
Easterby?
No.
That'd be sick.
This guy, much cooler than Easterby.
Maybe one of the best dressed men of all time.
I don't think I've ever seen him not in a three-piece suit with a top hat.
Beast.
At his house.
That's awesome.
Middle of the day.
This guy.
Respect.
Awesome.
Now, I think he had gone through a lot of different situations, drugs and everything
like that, And he told me
his entire story. And that was very cool. We became better friends. But also while he was
telling me the whole story, as I was young in the process and being an asshole and not really happy
about having to do this for the next 24 months, I was like, yeah, you're the type of guy that needs
this type of. Yeah, like that's all I kept thinking the entire time. So then the next couple of weeks
when I was hating every moment I go into this,
which I did for 20, I hated every fucking minute of it.
But after the first four weeks, I wasn't as combative and like, you know,
like when's the last time you used?
You fucking tell me, pal.
You actually use stuff.
You know, like that.
It wasn't great.
It wasn't a great going.
But then once he and I both realized that we're going to be forced to talk to each other once a week,
me mostly realizing I'm going to be forced to talk to this guy for the next two years every single week at his house like the
conversations became a little better we started talking about like stuff and started doing that
whole thing like good will hunting yeah it was yeah i haven't seen it well yeah he gets chalkboard
figures out the math problem yes he's janitor robin williams though robin williams had to break
down his tough exterior yeah he goes goes to a bunch of different therapists,
and basically all of them are like,
I can't fucking handle this guy.
And then so finally, they take him to Robin Williams,
and he's from Southie, too.
He gets it.
Of course Robin gets it.
Yeah, he does.
Yeah, but we didn't talk once about alcohol, man.
We were just, I mean, 23 months just talking about life, basically,
and just telling stories.
I assume this is going to be a little bit different, this particular one,
because I'm getting drug tested eight times a month,
and if I have any alcohol in me or anything,
I'm getting fined $30,000 immediately and all this stuff.
How can you find somebody getting a massage somewhere?
I don't know how that treatment goes.
Are they going to have to make a third person be there?
What's that, pal?
Would they make a third person be in the room?
Well, then it's not in that patient doctor.
Doctor, patient confidentiality?
Privilege?
Who's the doctor?
The person that's talking to Sean.
No, no, I mean for his massages.
For his massages.
Could they make a third person be there?
It's like a team appointed someone, isn't it?
I believe I read that it was going to be a team appointed individual.
It should be Bob Wilder.
Not the league.
I'd like to let JJ know if he's not. I believe I read that it was going to be a team appointed individual. Not the league. I'd like to let JJ know if he's watching,
he's a good man.
And I apologize for this first few weeks.
It's kind of burying you. Love you, JJ.
He's a good guy. He was a really good guy.
He hated having to meet with me every week, though.
Sure agree to love it.
Still, yeah, look fresh.
Sure it was his job was it was at his house
yeah i had to go to his house sounds like he wasn't put out at all tough way tough way to
get there too i mean it's just you know getting to his house was a whole fucking hour and a half
experience jesus it had to be an hour every week where was it it was a psychiatrist psychologist
do you know what his credentials were? Therapist, I think.
He's just like a substance abuse therapist, I think.
He was a preacher.
He was a good guy.
But he had his own rock-bottom story?
Yes, that's how he got into it all.
That's how, yeah.
Like Dr. Drew, all of his people that worked out there with him,
they all were crazy and then they found their way.
He was being very nice whenever he was telling me everything.
And I think he was appointed by the team. So think he was a team appointed guy i think the team uh had to find him and do the whole thing it was first couple weeks i was rude though
i was rude what are we talking use well you fucking drug test me didn't you i mean you tell
me what i mean oh the last time i saw any of my friends, because all my friends booze.
Yeah, it was four months ago.
Thanks for asking, dude.
Hey, when was the last time you used?
I told you the same thing last week.
I got no fucking friends now.
I hope you're happy.
I sit in my living room and watch terrible fucking television.
I hope it's five, six weeks.
You happy about it?
You're the one that needs to be.
When was the last time you fucking used, pal?
And then he would be like, well, I already told you.
It was just like the nicest guy, the nicest guy of all time know like he's probably seen it all i would imagine he's seen
it all dealing with people i don't like this therapist this massage therapist treatment
like what is it when was the last like do they have to go hire somebody else that isn't a
substance of abuse therapist i assume uh what a wild how long does how long does booze stay in your system um it depends right
i mean you've been hung over before but i'm saying if did you get tested if you had booze in your
system aren't you are you back in the program not just back in program yeah it's a fail and i think
it's fine that's what i'm saying though like let's say you drank the night before and they got you
two days later are you getting popped so it depends on how much you drink right i think that's a whole
i don't know you know how much booze is in you i think you know how much booze yeah but how much how much shows up
in your piss let me uh zito just said 25 hours to get completely clear out of your system i guess
it's weird that it's not 24 i i went hey i smoked spice there for a little bit because
i was told they couldn't get in and i was gonna you know had to do something i mean i was going full board on tree and booze like hard i mean i was drinking no i didn't like to take i
don't think i ever really enjoyed the taste of those heavy beers so anybody that drank the o'douls
i think and that's why i think i just chugged them or whatever but i was living real hard and
everybody i was friends with living real hard. Everybody had a great time.
We were living a great life, had money.
It was a good life.
It was a good life.
It was so much fun.
It was a blast.
Literally everybody I knew.
And then, hey, if there's a photo of you with any booze or we find any booze,
it's a fine.
You have to do this for another few months or whatever.
It's like, well, who am I supposed to talk to?
We got to see a therapist.
Yeah, but what about every other day?
What about every other day?
You'll find different friends.
You'll find different ways to have fun.
I'm like, I start going through things.
Oh, that'd be much more fun than when you're fucked up.
That'd be fun.
And that's when I went bigfoot hunting, ghost hunting.
I went catfishing.
Noodling, I guess, is what you call it down there.
I hit the road
for like six, seven months. Were you filming a reality show
with Burt Kreischer? I did all the reality
shows that off-season. Yeah, got on a bus,
did all the reality shows,
just kind of isolated all by myself.
Cruise, right? Didn't you go on a cruise?
That was, no. Did not go on a cruise when I was
Oh, yes.
Seabass told you to. Yeah, cruise was how I beat it
in the first year
yeah yeah hop on a cruise you can go get banged up for a week and then you come back or whatever
and that did happen I mean that certainly did happen but then I tried to lock in and then a
lockout happened oh ruined my liver some days and I'm not nonetheless I don't know how they'll find
that therapist and who says the therapy is happening and working and everything like that
but we will kind of
follow along as it happens because this has never happened before.
No. Hopefully it never happened again.
Right. I'm
getting out of here. I'm going to Canada.
Harrison Bucker wants a 70-yard field goal shot.
Let's go. Go and get it, Harrison. I think he can
get it. The longer kicks, the better.
Jimmy G, we talked about that in
the first hour. He, good teammate,
good leader. He checks out for a couple weeks during the offseason, though.
That became a little bit of a story on why people don't want to trade him.
David Lombardi, Lombardi himself told us that's all bullshit.
Russell Wilson has a brand new cleat, the Alpha Menace Elite 3.
So clean, these Alpha Menaces, AJ.
If you would have worn them back in the day, you might have ran a 4.3.
I need to see these. yeah alpha alpha menace elite threes with this high socks or the mid socks
over top of them what a look can't soccer yep that's how soccer cleats are now you don't need
to spat them either aj do you i mean i would but yeah you don't have to well you don't have to
because these go up to these go up to they they're hard to get on no you just gotta slide them on
they have ankle support, man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're sweet.
I'm sure they feel great.
My feet are way too fat for the Alpha Menaces,
but I do know if you're a skill or a speed
or an absolute freak athlete,
the Alpha Menace Elite 3s will be riding high.
You know what I mean?
Brian Dayball is giving Tyrod Taylor starting reps
for the New York Giants,
but he denies it has anything to do with Daniel Jones' performance.
Hey, nothing to do with it.
Okay.
Let's give the guy a break.
Yeah.
Let's get a former starter in numerous places
who has had success in teams and situations
that have been completely fucked.
Some one reps here as videos continue to release
of Daniel Jones throwing balls to nobody.
That was via around the NFL.
Kirk Cousins says you fucking liked that at practice. That could have been a Shanahan. That was via around the NFL. Kirk Cousins says,
you fucking liked that at practice.
That could have been a Shanahan.
That could have been his own GM.
That could have been to the fans.
Or maybe that was to Kirk Cousins,
who has a birthday today,
and says, this is a new me.
Welcome to new Captain Kirk.
A little bit bigger biceps, new haircut.
This is a new Kirk Cousins.
If I die, I die.
Javon Kinlaw, the San Francisco 49ers, a fucking monster.
Got a good video of him walking off the practice field, I assume in Minnesota, shirtless.
He was the man that got in a fight with that bum-ass reporter, Grant Cohen.
And Grant Cohen, obviously, 4'2".
This dude is a freak.
Holy shit.
How cool would that be, AJ?
Good luck blocking him. Are you serious?. How cool would that be, AJ? Good luck blocking him.
Are you serious?
How much fun would that be?
And, you know, he is on record as stating that a reporter who talked massive amounts of shit about him
said that when he walked up on him, he was cold as ice, motherfucker.
And I can see why, by the way.
I don't know if there's many people that aren't cold as ice as soon as they see Javon Kinlaw.
He's moving up in my rankings of greatest athletes on earth.
Just from that one walk-off video, it's great to see.
Absolute dog.
Tyron Matthew talking about what he's been around, who he's been around.
He said best he's been around when it comes to leadership,
when Demario Davis, he thinks that defense is going to be great.
How could they not be with all the weapons they have?
Will they be playing tonight in the game against the Packers?
Probably not.
Probably not.
Antonio Brown compared Tom Brady's situation to his.
Malcolm Butler has been put on IR season ever.
Probably.
I don't want to say it.
Yeah.
No.
Yeah, probably.
What is it?
Career, you think?
Probably retiring.
He came out of retirement for this.
Wait, what happened?
No idea.
We don't know.
Yeah, this could have been Bill Belichick doing the whole.
Rookie corners have been playing very well too malcolm butler will always be remembered for one of the biggest plays in the history of football yeah congrats on all the success we hope that
isn't it if it is congrats on a run pal um yeah lebron james agreed to a two-year 97.1 million
dollar extension obviously he's worth way more than that. Tom Charania broke the news.
Bill Plasky showcased that he still has his fastball because he said,
oh, great, the Lakers are going to suck for another couple of years.
Yeah.
Bill Plasky?
Yeah.
Where'd he come from?
Rathorn.
LA Times.
Yeah, he's still got a heater. His headline basically said, signing LeBron to massive new deal means
Lakers will inevitably fucking stink for the next two years.
Bingo.
I'm sure LeBron saw that.
LeBron's worth way more money than that to not only the franchise, but the NBA, to everything.
Congrats to the Lakers locking him down.
Maybe they'll get back on the winning side of things.
Hey, maybe that'll happen.
We do know that Windy won't be breaking the news.
Brian Winghorse says he no longer has a close relationship with LeBron James.
In years past, I had messaged with him, but we both kind of moved on.
That's via the NBA Central, which is a great news source as well for the NBA.
Wendy has been following and tracking LeBron James since high school.
He was Cleveland era through Miami, back to Cleveland, over to L.A.
Wendy's had a hell of a run.
Congrats, Windhorst.
Congrats on what? On a run. Congrats, Windhorse. Congrats on what?
On a run.
What are you talking about?
Are you breaking up with LeBron?
What happened?
Did something happen?
He was just the guy that they would put on TV
anytime anything LeBron happened
because they assumed he was the plug
because they think he had a great relationship with him since then.
He's no longer the plug.
It was probably that one thing
when he was trying to explain something.
Oh, when he did this thing?
Why did he feel like he has to tell us, though?
I assume he was asked and interviewed about it,
but also that is literally the only time we fucking saw Wendy on television
for the last 45 years, him talking about LeBron.
Now that Wendy's no longer LeBron plug,
what would the next version of Wendy be?
Good question.
I'd like to watch Chapter 2 of Wendy on media.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, this is like
when Ben and J-Lo
broke up for the first time.
Like, there will be people
who are devastated today
in cubicles.
And they'll be back together
at some point.
They'll be back together
down the road.
I hope so.
I'm out of here.
I'm going to Montreal.
Bonjour.
Ça va?
Ça va bien?
Et tu?
Comme ci?
Comme ça?
Because we got a big
preseason weekend ahead of us.
The boys will do a giveaway
on the other side of this break.
AJ, you're the best.
Cheers.
Goodbye. Thank you. Hey, hey, hey.
Hey, hey, hey.
You don't gotta say nothing On everything about you
You don't gotta say nothing Hey, hey, hey. You don't gotta say nothing On everything about you
You don't gotta say nothing Thank you. You don't gotta say nothing
One little thing about you
You don't gotta say nothing
Hey, hey, hey. សូវាប់បានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបា I'm going to say it again. Hey, hey, hey.