The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 727 - Mark Schlereth, General Bob Carpenter, AQ Shipley, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: August 26, 2022

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about people wanting Aaron Donald to be suspended for getting into a fight and using his helmet in a preseason joint practice against the Bengals and how this kind of stuff happens more than people think, they look ahead to this weekend's preseason games, and everything else happening around the NFL. Joining the progrum to chat about the viral clip going around that offensive lineman have the easiest jobs in football and don't need time to acclimate and give an impassioned plea is 3x Super Bowl Champion, 2x Pro Bowler, current color commentator for the NFL on FOX, Stink, Mark Schlereth (14:46-32:37). Later, Ohio State legend, former first round NFL draft pick, the man who saved college football, The General, Bob Carpenter joins the show to chat about the college football landscape, training camp fights, his love for Top Gun, and much more (49:07-1:21:03). Later, Super Bowl Champion, 12 year veteran on the offensive line, and friend of the progrum, AQ Shipley joins the show to chat about what it's like trying to block Aaron Donald, how difficult it is to play offensive line, and to make a big announcement for the upcoming NFL season (1:29:07-1:50:40). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Beautiful people, it is a meathead edition of a feel-good Friday on this August 26th, 2022. This show shall begin right now. Football is happening in full force. Last night there was two preseason games, one on NFL Network, one on Prime. It was our first time getting to experience the Prime experience for NFL football. It'll be the home of Thursday Night Football, I believe, for the next like 11 years or so. Yep. We saw Kirk Herbstreit make his debut as a full-time NFL guy last night alongside Al Michaels.

The entire presentation from Amazon was on full display. All the graphics, all the pre-show, the halftime show. In the game itself, what did we learn? Well, not much. I mean, to be honest, we didn't really learn that much, except for the fact that Trey Lance probably going to take a little bit. Offense line didn't seem to be great. Trey Lance was missing some throws.

Seems like there were some reads that were missed. And everybody wanted to bury Trey Lance last night and say, hey, maybe they stick with Jimmy Garoppolo. Maybe it's a nut. The internet was loud last night and say, hey, maybe they stick with Jimmy Garoppolo. Maybe it's a nut. The internet was loud last night. Maybe Jimmy G has another year of teaching and tutoring Trey Lance and helping him learn another year because this guy's not played a lot of football. And with the look at how he looked last night, you would say, man, this guy stinks.

But George Kittle came on to this show and said, hey, it might take a little bit. Like the first couple weeks might be a little rocky, be a little bit rough but we'll inevitably get there they're banking on it I think there's some technique stuff that I've heard every single quarterback that has ever talked about throwing a football uh kind of goes against in the way Trey Lance throws great athlete let's assume he'll be able to figure it out that's what I'm doing I'm assuming that Trey Lance will be able to figure it out I don't know if all the San Francisco 49ers fans believe that at this point. I think he will. I think Shanahan will put him in the right positions. And whenever

everybody's playing full speed, it's a much different game than preseason football. So let's not overreact. Speaking of, hey, are the Texans a team? They might be. Dougie Mills is slinging the pill, dude. Dog. And last night I was watching a game, as we all were, listening to Kirk and Al do their thing. By the way, no, uh, guys, stop saying that. No real, pill, dude. Dog. And last night I was watching a game, as we all were, listening to Kirk and Al do their thing.

By the way, no real – I'm so sick of hearing me say it. But no real professional just ho-hum, another NFL game. The reaction about Al Michaels was it's going to be weird to hear Al Michaels on Thursday as opposed to Sundays because Sunday is normally the biggest game of the week. Thursdays have notoriously not been that at all. Because Thursdays are the only game on the schedule that can't be flexed

because it has an entire scheduling conflict for teams to be on Thursday with the weekend afterwards and everything and everybody having to have one. So the Thursday lineup in pass has not been great. Their first game, though, was a fucking great one. Chiefs. Chargers. Chargers. Yeah.

Justin Herbert. Patrick Mahomes is the first Thursday night football game. One week after the Thursday night kickoff, which will be on NBC, which Mike Tirico and Collinsworth will be calling. I think it was just like Alan Kirk are going to be good. Yeah. A hundred percent. That's just what everybody needs to know.

We never had a doubt. Kaylee Hartung, I never knew who she was before. She'll probably settle into her role as well in a good fashion. I think that on-camera stuff, I think they did good. There will be no big complaints. The pre-show halftime show, they're going to have to continue to work through that whole thing, doing their thing.

Looked exactly the same as everything else. I think Amazon probably thinking massive success last night. Got a show up on the air, pre-show. Got a game on the air. There's a couple glitches with some cameras and some reruns and some replays. Microphones on, off, things like that. Natural stuff that's going to take place. This is pre-season for everybody.

But I think Amazon's pretty pumped about how it went last night. Nobody buried everything. Nobody went over the top how awesome it was. Just kind of slid under the radar that a game was happening i think they were happy about that big story dougie mills can fucking play toxic table at boston connor at ty schmidt what were you going to say there pal yeah i just think like if you look at thursday nights moving forward especially with the schedule they have to like thursday night is is almost going to feel like sunday night you

know as opposed to like in years past where it's like the team's kind of – the game's always kind of stunk, and it was just – if something crazy happened, that's what we'd be talking about, but it does. And, like, you know, I don't think any of us were blown away by it last night, but it also wasn't like, oh, wow, this is terrible. Which is all they were looking for. Exactly, and I think as we get down the line and we get some of these, like, marquee matchups on Thursday night,

like, a primetime game isn't going to feel like a shit show. It's just going to be like it's reliable. It's going to be entertaining. And it's something that I don't think we're going to have to worry about at all. I think the games are going to be better on Thursday Night Football because Roger Goodell knows how deep Bezos' bank account is. Yeah, bingo. Hey, if we give them – and not that Amazon hasn't been in business with the NFL, they have been for like four or five

years now at this point. This has been a walk before you, or crawl before you walk and then run is now having a game every single week there, and I think they're going to try to get more later in the season as well as they come up. So that relationship and partnership has been growing, but anytime a new network gets a string of games, they're going

to give them good games because they would like them their first impression be oh doing business with the nfl is awesome if it was just a bunch of trash games there's a chance that amazon could be a little bit like hey we're paying a lot of money this is our first experience so who knows what the future looks like those saturday games are going to be up sunday games are going to be up apple's going to be trying to get involved they got a blueprint now i guess with doing it. I wish they would have shook some things up, though. Maybe. You know, like. Yeah. Yeah. But if you shake something up and it sucks, all anybody's talking about today is, oh, Amazon thinks they're reinventing the coverage of football. Right. But it is a new platform,

new era, new digital age that they are kind of trailblazing for everybody else to follow behind them. Wish they would took some shots, you know, maybe even talk to them a couple times about take some shots, maybe try to change some things up. That was not the mindset, I do not believe, from the very beginning. I think they executed exactly how they wanted to, and they should be pumped up about it. As should Kirk and Al.

Great chemistry. They were awesome. There was a 28-3 game was mentioned, and Kirk Herbstreit said to Al, did you call that game? And Al said no. And Kirk, without missing a beat, said, well, well we all watched and whenever we saw both it was like oh the chemistry is yeah not that al michaels has never had a problem with chemistry with anybody or herb street having a problem with chemistry with anybody but you're always wondering if they're going to talk over each other not get along seems like they're right on the fucking same page and kirk we've been

asking him to come to the men's league for a long time i've been publicly campaigning for kirk to come to the men's league he only played in college he did not play in the nfl kirk does not think that his resume warrants any respect in the nfl it feels like that's what he always said he's like how is anybody gonna take me serious in the nfl i know nothing about it like i'm a it's like you know you don't watch it or do you watch it kirk he's like of course i watch it i'm a fan it's all excellent guys that i know for college going in there i'm like kirk everybody in the nfl watches college game day on saturday everybody okay everybody knows who the fuck kirk herb street is and you are incredible what you do why don't you showcase that and come to the men's league please that's right why don't you come to varsity pal why don't you do that and

he's like ah you know i don't want to he i feel like he thought he would be disrespectful almost if he was to do that because he wasn't an NFL guy. Hey, Herbie, everybody's fucking pumped you're in the NFL now. Let's go and have a hell of a season. Why not be the best fucking team out there? I'm sure that's what you guys are thinking. You should go get that. You can go get that.

And we're thankful you motherfuckers are in the NFL together. And what's nice is, like, last night they were great and they're only going to get better. They're only going to get more comfortable. Imagine, like, week 13, like week week 14 they get a little looser you know al al starts i love when al al opens up and i'm sure him and kirk are going to do that together it's going to be great i agree yeah i'm looking for i thought you're really going to go farther i started taking a drink i know i thought about it and then you even saw me drinking the water like yeah i'm stopping my sentence right now.

To be honest, when I talk, I look in that direction and I see nothing. Oh, okay. So it's just kind of a thought. There is numerous times where I think you guys think I'm making eye contact with you and Zeno's probably in my ear and I'm thinking about something else. And then I snap back to it. I'm like, how long have I been staring at this guy? It's a game you've got to play.

Yeah, how was the brain check this morning? Pretty good? Did we show him what just happened here, you think? Yeah play. How was the brain check this morning? Pretty good? Did we show him what just happened here, you think? Yeah, hopefully it's good. What does that mean? Why's he doing that? He doesn't remember the thing. That's the issue.

It was just this morning. Just some blood taking and stuff like that. From your brain? Brain bleed? That's not how blood work works. I do believe town is right in this situation. Normally it just goes right here Right here But I'll tell you what If they were able

To just go in there That'd be sweet Terrible What are you talking about That would be the Most terrible thing Of all time Did you talk to them

About what it could be Did they say like Any one of a hundred Different things Did you do any tests with them Did they do Not yet They gotta reach back

Alright Hey we're pulling for you Good luck Go get it So when I'm saying that to you That's my brain Saying it to you by the way Your brain Not yet. They got to reach back out to me. All right. Hey, we're pulling for you. Good luck. So when I'm saying that to you, that's my brain saying it to you, by the way. Your brain. Yeah. Brain to brain.

Because your brain is kind of taking everything in. Basically telepathic. Yeah. So my brain is wishing your brain good luck. Thank you, brain. But it's using my mouth to do such. Pretty cool. It is pretty cool. It's like when a brain, when somebody studies a brain.

Yeah, like anatomy. That's a brain. Studying a brain. A brain. How often does that's a brain study in a brain a brain how often does that happen i mean think about the word you know a brain named the brain tool yeah you're right so the brain would have to like the name exactly because the brain is literally what came up with the name of his fucking self the only thing in the history well this don't know shit about pangaea boom brain got a poop where's he at little dicky i don't know shit about Pangea. Boom. Brain got a poop. Where's he at, little dicky? I don't know. He probably has butt cheeks hanging out somewhere.

I tried to support him. I tried my best. I just couldn't take it. Enough of this dude's fucking asshole sitting on my television. I can't do it. You have a terrible ass, too, dude. What are we even? It's still a good show.

They got some moments. They can get past it. When? Season one? Yeah, season one, season two also. There's the best moments. There's certainly some very properly placed jokes in there but i couldn't get past all the cheese no i mean you have to love seeing

15 to 16 minutes of butt cheeks per episode you know they're only 22 minute episodes so it's hey little dicky gets on the court though he's a fucking dog he's a baller absolute baller or if he is just flowing on a mic on a maybe we just yeah do that well the second season he's creative he's an artist yeah that's what they did in the second season instead of the every episode you know butt cheeks him and benny blanco just spent a day together butt naked together and that was kind of the one episode during the second season so he didn't want i wasn't the demo he i'm not the demo he said listen people that just don't like seeing me nude all the time yeah aren't gonna like this show he was talking directly to me it's a good thing we have music to rely we still got

a little dicky's music we can listen to that's very nice so that's why he has a diverse portfolio because he knows that some things aren't gonna be for everybody well and if he releases the music from the episodes then i think he'd get a lot more eyes because there are some bangers he puts in there that aren't his actual music oh it's like's like Flight of the Conchords. They got a song every single... Sure. Yeah. What a show. What a show. I love their honesty, too, and their candid... Yeah, we just ran out of ideas.

We couldn't make any more. Sorry, they wanted to pay us for another season. We honestly just... We actually... We unloaded all of our ideas in season one, and then they gave us

a massive amount of money for season two, and we tried our best, and then season three, they said, we want to run it back, and we said, we can't, Mike. We can't do it and you know most people do a money back uh grab right there put some shit out like game of thrones did that last season yeah that last season that last season

when there was starbucks cups stealing the show every fucking week they mailed it in they took the check everybody hated the author now you guys are going, whoa, whoa, whoa. Well, it turns out the author wanted to do more. HBO wanted to do more. It was those writers, Benioff and Weiss. They said,

nah, we're just doing this season. That's it. And they were the ones, right? So that's who I'm talking about then. Those writers just did a money grab. They fucking sucked. For sure. Thank God House of the Dragon came back.

Thank you, House of the Dragon. Goddamn right. Season two is coming. They're running that during football season on Sunday nights? Uh-huh. What's their problem?

I know people will watch them Tuesdays or Wednesdays when there's nothing else on. Yeah, but why would you do that? Fucking load up the terrible times. For some reason, these network shows and all these shows, they do not like doing summer. They don't do summer at all. Well, I know. It's what it feels like. People are outside doing stuff.

Are they? No, I know why. It's COVID life. I don't think so. Well, I guess not anymore's what it feels like. People are outside doing stuff. Are they? No, I know why. It's COVID life. I don't think so. Well, I guess not anymore, but that was always the, hey, people got shit to do in the summer. They don't need to do anything. Somebody needs something. Yeah, people don't work anymore.

They don't do anything, actually. They need shit all year round. And us, you know, 49, 50 million Americans that watch the NFL season, like offseason, you bring House of the Dragon in the offseason. That would have been great. I agree. Yeah, I agree. Because I was almost going to get into that with the new Targaryens.

Yeah, they know the fat marks. They're going to watch either way. What's her name? Rey Naira. What's that, Foxy? What did Connor just call them? What did you say? I just said, you know, HBO and these networks know that the fat marks are going to watch when they want to watch.

It doesn't matter what time they air it. Aren't you a Mark? Yeah, I'm a Fat Mark, too. Ty's not? I'm a Mark. Yeah, but you're not a Fat Mark. No, I don't know. So what are you talking about?

You said Tubbs yesterday, didn't you? What did you say? What'd you do? That was Val. Big Ben's fat the other day, too. That's not true. Yeah, what's going on in this office? Everybody's just getting a...

That was a meatball to a meatball. Seems to be a culture thing. So everybody just got rid of their mirrors in this building? No. That's what I said. Is that what just happened? I would have said us, but I think it would give more context

to say Fat Marks instead of us. Let's move on. To your point, though, the Lord of the Rings show is coming out, too, and it's like the most expensive show ever. Rings of power! They spent 500 million bucks or something like that? Yeah, on one season.

It's going to be good. The Fatso's are going to love that. Yeah, I was just going to say the fat marks are chomping at the bit. What is Lord of the Rings? That's just like Harry Potter? Oh, no. It's like Middle Ages.

More like Game of Thrones. Yeah. Orcs. Goblins. Not as X-rated as Thrones, though. Right. Yeah, I noticed there was

a little bit of an orgy scene. Yeah, no bang-asses. Well, because Thrones tells it how it is and thrones though right they got direct yeah i noticed there's a little bit of an orgy scene yeah no bang houses well because thrones tells it how it is and uh rings does uh you know panders to the fucking public oh it's a little soft they're saying a little woke yeah they want to they want it they want like a disney park ride someday it's on amazon it's on the top lord of the rings like pg-13 and then har Harry Potter's, like, G. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hey, that shirt's sweet. Come on. See a shirt in this one?

How'd you get that? Yinzer 360. You got it on a strip store? What? No, I think you found it in a box that showed up at the office. That thing is awesome. Sweet shirt. It looks cool.

I would never wear a yellow shirt, but. Why? It's like the sun. They are tough. Yeah. With my breed of Caucasian, with yellow, just might as well say, hey, Pat, why are you wearing ketchup and mustard outside every day? You know what I mean?

I don't like Carson Wentz rolling into that fucking press conference. No one has ever looked as bad as Carson Wentz in an outfit. Hey, why do you always wear a black tank top? Really, black's the only color I can wear. These tank tops are incredibly comfortable. All I got to do is just a little bit of arms. I can get fat in the gut. Nobody notices. Speaking of fat in the gut, nobody

notices. It's not fat. These offensive linemen have. No. They are shredded and yoked. It's a skill position. We know that. You know that. This morning or yesterday on Maggie and Perloff on CBS Sports,

Perloff, former McLovin of the Dan Patrick Show, left the Dan Patrick Show to start Maggie and Perloff on CBS Sports. Perloff, former McLovin of the Dan Patrick Show, left the Dan Patrick Show to start Maggie and Perloff on CBS Sports Network. Maggie, formerly of The Fan in New York. Yeah, Maggie and the Moose. Maggie and the Moose. They come together for a daily show. Maggie had a take on

offensive linemen that went as such. One good thing about offensive linemen, this is regarding Tyron Smith, left tackle, had his hamstring get ripped off the bone, and he'll be out until at least December or something like that. She said, one good thing about offensive linemen when replacing them, it doesn't take you a long time to get acclimated. You're pushing guys around.

I really think an O-lineman doesn't need a month to get acclimated to a new team. I think they only need a week or two. And I listened to the entire... It was wild what was being said, but I appreciated the fact that she was saying it because it gives us an opportunity to talk to this man. Friend of the show. We are massive

fans of the founder of Man 101, Super Bowl champion, stallion of a man. Ladies and gentlemen, Stank Mark Schleier. Yeah, Stank! champion stallion of a man ladies and gentlemen stink march always good to be all i've missed you man it's good to see you stink we've i've watched you on the internet everything you've done i've been watching um it is great to see you as well you look better than ever right now stink yeah don't tell anybody but but I went vegan about

28 days ago, completely vegan, trying to be raw vegan, and, you know, going from a guy that was a meat-gin, like all I did was eat meat, and so I went from meat-gin to vegan, and I used to hate vegan people because I was like, you know how you know you're vegan?

Just like this interview. Give me 20 seconds, let me tell you about the vegans that I've gone through, right? So, you know, and the thing I always thought about the people like me that just ate meat is like I'm never trying to make a piece of broccoli out of a piece of steak. Like you people are frauds, right? You're trying to make broccoli taste like steak. You're frauds. Call the fire.

Yeah, but I've done it, and I'm telling you what, this is no lie, I feel freaking great after having heart surgery this off-season in April. I feel really good. And instantly, like in six days, I dropped 15 pounds. I feel great. Let's go. Let's go, Steve. Hey, doctor told you you had to do something with your diet or lifestyle or no?

Yeah, the doctor, I went and saw a doctor through my friend Daryl Green, NFL's fastest man. And he said, hey, come out to Houston, see this doctor. I want you to, you know, to do some of this stuff. So anyhow, I ended up doing it and I've been doing it, like I said, for 28 days now. Feel great and doing really well, man. I'm really excited about kind of where my health is right now. So it's all good. I can come body you right now, though. I can fucking excited about kind of where my health is right now, so it's all good. I can come body you right now, though.

I can fucking toss your ass around if I wanted to right now. No, I'm still strong as the day is long. There's no chance of that happening. AQ Shipley, obviously former center and the NFL coach, he had something happen with his neck where the thing around his spine pinched or something, and came right he was not expecting to have to be like they forced him into retirement like he went into a meeting he was in a game next day he goes to a doctor he's just trying to hear what it is what's the thing and they're like you

can never play another snap like it came out of nowhere like right i think they call i think it's spinal stenosis is is usually what the where that where where the shrinking of the area where your nerve comes out. So it almost gets compacted. Your nerve ends up getting hit, and it becomes a very dangerous situation. Yeah, just out of nowhere, though. He had just played a great game, got out, then he goes back in, and then the next day, this guy whose entire life has been football, like his entire life has been football, he thought maybe like a week or two he'll be back.

Like, hey, you can't play football ever again. So it was obviously very emotional in that moment. He calls me, you know, we're tight. We start chatting about it. And, you know, I'm trying to be as positive as possible. And the conversation is going a bit negative. You know, it's going a bit negative. He can't find it.

I said, well, the good news is like for the rest of your life, anytime we're doing anything, like you have have to know now, I can fuck you up. You know what I mean? Like, you know, because it was never like that, right? Like, AQ is this big, round mound of a man, uses incredible leverage. He's a tough guy from Pittsburgh. Now, for the rest of our lives together, you just got to know that I win. Like, that is a whole new world.

So I thought maybe I had that on you, too. That is not the case. No, no. That's a whole new world. So I thought maybe I had that on you too. That is not the case. No, no. That's not going to happen. Although if you grab my fingers or you bend my knee, I mean you're a big WWE guy, right? So you just grab my fingers or you bend my left knee because my knee doesn't bend past about 80 degrees, 85 degrees, and that really hurts. So if you just bend that knee, I will instantly tap out, like instant tap, or my fingers.

You grab my fingers, I'm going to tap. By the way, AQ is built like a keg with little tiny arms and legs. You've got little Tyrannosaurus arms, Tyrannosaurus legs, and just this big giant keg body. Yeah, and this is how he is. And if you get in there close, yeah, there it is. Yeah, there he is. If you get in too close and those things get on yeah, there it is. Yeah, there he is. If you get in too close

and those things get on you, you're fucked. You're dead. Guys, he can roll those hips weren't too far from his neck. I mean, that's real close.

So he was one strong unit, you know, attractive guy for how he's been. Yeah. And athletic, good golfer. Great. But forever,

I mean, I'm single-legging him into potential wheelchair. Sorry about it. If he, you know what I mean? Fuck around and find out, AQ. Anyways, happy you're healthy, happy you're okay.

Meatgin, hilarious. And keep it going with the vegan stuff, man. We need you around forever. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Let's start talking now about what had happened and why we love what happened with Maggie and Perloff. We watch that show on one of the TVs out here

every single day. It's a very consistent show. I feel like it's on all the time. I'm not from New York, so I did not know who the sports pope was for a long time. I had no idea who Chris Maddog Russo was. I did not know who Maggie was. But when I heard McLovin had left Dan Patrick

to go do this show, I'm like, God damn, okay, this has got to be a show. So now we are hearing about it for the first time a lot of people are because of the comment that was made by Maggie who's been talking sports for a long time at a high level and people need to remember that there's a lot of meatheads and stooges out there that's our immediate reaction upon hearing the name Maggie and then a sports take hey shut up Maggie like that is just something that says she is great and a lot of things her offensive line take though couldn't have been more wrong stink why is this the case you think that people actually have this genuine thought about offensive linemen why do

you think it isn't considered to be a sophisticated position like everywhere else and why have we gotten to this point you think stink yeah well I think, number one, even coaches in the National Football League, like we always used to refer to ourselves as like this secret mushroom society. Like the head coach doesn't even know what we do. We just know. We're the only ones that know what we actually do. And it's kind of a secret. And so we always are at, and you know how this was when you were at practice,

the O-linemen are down in one area of the field away from everybody else, like completely compartmentalized, like cows grazing over there, right? And nobody really knows what we do, and nobody really understands the skill that is involved in doing what we do. And so even when Nathaniel Hackett, the new head coach of the Denver Broncos, like on his press or in his press, referred to his skill position players. Man, I called him up and said, hey, bullshit. The most skilled position in football is the offensive line.

And here's what you have to understand. All five guys, if you want to be good, you can't be good individually unless all five of us are good together, unless we're all working in unison, five becoming one. And that's the beauty of it. Like I've always loved this about offensive line play, is that all five guys have to be working in unison. And I always say, hey, all five of us can be doing the wrong thing.

And if we're doing the wrong thing together, it's going to work out. We're going to be okay. But we have to be tied together. We have to work together. And it's the most unique position in football and then the other thing i always say is hey everybody's an exceptional athlete you play in the national football league you're an exceptional athlete it doesn't matter what position you play okay but we are considered or we are uh as a group in totality the worst

athletes on the football field i like that that. Worse than the punters? Worse than the punters, you think? Yes. Okay, good. You guys are more athletic than the majority of us. You guys are more athletic than us. So we're the worst. We're the worst.

And yet, I always find this fascinating, Pat, because you cover all sports. And you're very versed and you're very knowledgeable. As is Maggie. This wasn't like dog and Maggie. This was just how people in general see playing offensive line. They just see girth. They just see size, and they think that that's all it is, is you're moving guys around. I would argue right now that Larry Allen, pound for pound, might be the best, most athletic player that's ever played in the National Football League.

You would see guys that played against Larry Allen, pound for pound, might be the best, most athletic player that's ever played in the National Football League. You would see guys that played against Larry Allen. Now, first off, 6'4", 335 pounds, probably ran the 4'7", 40s, could slam dunk a basketball flat-footed and bench press 700 pounds. We used to refer to him as the landlord because he owned the fucking space between center and tackle. He owned that space. And I have seen multiple guys come down with a Larry Allen flu before they had a play against Larry Allen.

Like that was all of a sudden like, hey, man, I'm not feeling really good. I might have to sit this one out. That he was that dominant a football player and that dominant an athlete. But think about this. For the majority, like I'm not talking about the outliers, but for the majority of us, every day that you play, you're lined up against a guy who's a better athlete than you. And name one other position where the guy who is the better athlete is, is the guy who's the worst, excuse me, the worst athlete is expected to win 100% of the battles. So if I play you and you're a better athlete than me

and I win or whip your ass 65 out of 66 times, but you get one sack against me, I'm a piece of shit and you go to the Pro Bowl. Yeah, but I'm celebrating too. I'm celebrating too. Right. You got grass stains on your freaking back of your jersey and yet you're going to celebrate

the sack, and that's all anybody will ever remember. That's why all offensive linemen live in this state of paranoia. Nothing good can happen to me as a player. Nothing. I hate Monday night football. I hate Sunday night football. I don't want to be in the spotlight. I want none of it, because

the only thing that can happen to me is bad. That's it. I mean, think, you win a game, you put 200 yards rushing up, you dominate, your quarterback doesn't get hit, and the only thing you are is a tagline at the end of the game. Hey, you got to think the big fellas up front, those hogs did great, now let's talk about me. Right? That's how they operate. So, like, you think about this. You cover the NBA. A point guard gets hooked up on a switch against Nikola Jokic, blows by him, lays it up. We don't say, hey, take Nikola Jokic out.

He's a piece of shit. He's no good. No, you say it was a great switch. The better athlete got it. Like every other position, hey, man, when you're a supremely gifted tight end, the one-on-one coverage is not some D lineman that you're a better athlete. It's a safety. It's like athletes. Corners and wide receivers. Like athletes play against each other. That's how it works. Offensive line,

you're playing against a more gifted athlete and you're expected to win 100% of the battles. That's why it's the most skilled position in football. Leverage is created. Your ability. Moving a man from point A to point B is skill and technique it's late it's leverage that you create uh it's footwork it's hand placement it's hat placement it's all

those things and and you have got to be very versed at not only what you're doing but what the guys beside you are doing so that you can work in unison together to be good hey we love what you just did right now that was awesome awesome. I mean, you just, like, let's say positions were running for a political office. And they all had to get on a podium and talk about why their position fucking matters. What you just did right there, offensive lineman will win the position. That's right. That was awesome. That was a great breakdown that I don't think I've ever heard before.

And a lot of people haven't. And I think the perceived notion of offensive linemen just pushing guys around, Maggie said in there, which it is. Ultimately, if you were to zoom out, it is pushing guys around. But the amount of muscle memory and everything in the work, I think you feel as if as one of the only talking points for offensive linemen out there publicly is like, hey, there's a lot of shit happening there that might just look mundane and we don't ever talk about let's go ahead and have some respect for that with the tyron smith situation i mean he's a guy eight

time pro bowler left tackle would be the position that you could kind of isolate right with the other four still going to be a problem still everybody have to be on the same page those think yeah yeah there's there's a little bit more out there. You know, I used to call out there being in the water, you know, as opposed to being in the concrete, especially with wide receivers. You know, they're out there playing around in the water. Those guys are in the concrete. Left tackle, even the right tackle today, different than in my day, right,

where you would have a right tackle that was just kind of a mauler and you'd have a left tackle that could move that was really, you know, pretty gifted athlete. Now, with the way these teams are all in nickel, you know, what you take a linebacker out, you bring in another cornerback, you really have this kind of NASCAR package where you're just rushing the passer. Both tackles now have to be pretty gifted. There are some guys like Lane Johnson, the right tackle position, is a gifted guy athletically, you know, I mean, incredibly gifted. But the left tackle historically has been that one where you're facing the Dwight Freeneys, you play with Dwight Freeney, you know, absolute freak shows.

You know, these guys nowadays, I mean, it's not uncommon for these DNs to run 4-3-8, 4-4, you know, I mean, It's in linebackers and things of that nature. The game is just completely different. You've got to be so gifted. Let me see your set. McAfee's got a pretty good set. He knows.

Thank you. Yeah. Then you've got to change the set up. You can't be in the same spot all the time. Now you've got to change the set up, right? You can't be in the same spot all the time. Now you've got to up kick a little bit, right? You've got to be inside out. I'm like Joe Tom.

Hey. No, I'm like Joe Tom. I'm just trying to get to my spot. I'm trying to get to my spot. You're just trying to get to your spot? Yeah, I'm just getting to my spot. Nice. Nice.

Well, see, but that was – that one was a longer set simply because you probably had a nine technique versus a five technique. Exactly, Stan. You had to get a little bit deeper there. Every time I do this, nobody gives me credit. All right, go ahead. Give me that. Boom! Oh, yeah.

Did you see that? That's called a take two principle right there. Push him out on the draw. Of course. Push him out on the draw. Bam. Climb. Get the linebacker. Seal him out on the draw. Push him out on the draw. Bam. Climb. Get the linebacker.

Seal him inside. I mean, it's perfect technique. I tell you, here's the other thing, you know, from just a pure pass protection standpoint. Some of the things that we used to do as players, you know, I would memorize not only the drops of the quarterback, like seven-step drop, five-step drop, three-step drops are called, but not only the depth of drop, but also the timing of the route combination. So when you hear the timing of the route combination, you can start to understand like, hey, man, this five-step drop has a hitch to it.

So I actually have to be – I actually have to take a legitimate kind of pass pro set. But this five-step drop, they all go. Man, that ball is gone. He hits the fifth step. There is no hitch. There's no hitching up, moving up in the pocket. That ball is gone. So now I can run block effectively a five-step drop,

and that ultimately takes me and creates where, like, when I'm consulting for teams, I always talk about taking the passive out of pass protection. So now all of a sudden I can be the aggressor in a pure passing set where now the offensive or the defensive lineman goes, what the, like, what's going on? Like this guy just run, he just went run block on me and they're throwing the football. And so now you get to dictate to the defense what we're doing as an offense. So then it becomes the mental aspect of that game is how do I eliminate? And this is what I always tell teams. You've got to sit there and say, if we're doing as an offense. So then it becomes the mental aspect of that game is how do I eliminate? This is what I always tell teams. You've got to sit there and say, if we're going to throw it 35

times, how can I eliminate 22 of those to make my guys automatically win? And that has to do with understanding the depth, the route combination, the timing of the football, how many run action plays versus play action plays do we have you know how many how many boot keeps do we all that kind of stuff how many three steps versus five steps where it's gone so there's a lot of there's a lot of mental processing of the game which i call either cheating the game or funneling guys where i want them to be to to give me a chance as a lesser athlete to win those battles. That's why there's such a skill involved and such a knowledge involved in playing this game.

I agree. There's different techniques. There's a lot of work. There's chess on the line. There's different, I mean, strategies, everything. You guys just never talk, you know, so nobody really knows that. Happy this has become a moment where we could learn. Stink, we miss you.

We're happy you're healthy. It's great seeing you, brother. It's great being on with you. Great seeing you guys. And anytime, you know I'm a phone call away, brother. God, I'm happy you're good. Ladies and gentlemen, Mark Slayers. Thanks, Sting!

I got a lot of tweets last night telling me, you're going to be quiet about this. You're going to be quiet about this. What is going on with Matt Ariza, the punter for the buffalo bills he and others claimed him as the punt god was his nickname is obviously disgusting uh the sounds of it are terrible that is not something that any position in football or any league or any human would want to be associated humans that do that particular act i obviously don't know all of the details i don't know who does but reading the initial reports and what is being said is terrible and i have no clue how this pans out i guess he is with the team tonight the buffalo bills take on

the carolina panthers in carolina tonight alongside a bunch of other games that are taking place three other games uh so that is my thoughts on it i am just like every other human that read that and was like that's disgusting uh then you start looking into the rules and laws in california seems like this is going to be uh oh yeah it's a civil thing now it's going to be criminal it is terrible i wish that upon nobody hate that our position is even a part of it and i hate that i put a guy over and this happens just a couple weeks ago the bills allegedly knew about this a month ago or something like that you would have to think that a lot of the nfl teams who hire uh investigators former high-end police officers to

protect their team and do questions before the season or before the combine process with the draft prospects you would assume that other teams also knew about this which is might also add into why he dropped down the draft board the Baltimore Ravens only had Jordan Stout on their draft board and if you remember Harbaugh came out and said our team has made a stance here in the last decade that we're not even taking chances on anybody that can potentially do that you add that into the thought did teams know this before draft before he came into the nfl there's a lot to unfold it's all very very serious and i don't think any of us know what the future looks like but it is it seems to be like we are probably not going to see matt arise up ever again see that's just from the sounds of it right now.

There's an entire process to this that we all have to remember. It gets difficult to remember because the world that we live in, it seems like a lot of research has been done already on the prosecuting side with text messages and phone calls with investigators next to Doe, the victim in this situation. So I, alongside everybody else, saw it and was disgusted and flabbergasted by it. And yeah, I just I don't know what else to say other than you read through it in every new piece of information. You're like, oh, my God, that is terrible.

How is that happening? But you would assume that is no knowledge from people around the NFL before the draft. Yeah, it's awful and apparently the the bills did were not aware at least i read they were not aware of this when they drafted him but were made aware of it like a month ago and obviously it's not the same thing they're two completely different things but i just feel like this coming on the heels of all the deshaun watson stuff like that they're not going to just let this slip through the cracks where stuff like this might have in the past.

Luckily, we're in a time right now where it's like they're going to get to the bottom of this, and if he is to be held responsible, I think you're right. We're probably not going to see him around ever again. This is a civil lawsuit happening right now, but if you watch any criminal law docs or TV shows, that does not mean that the criminal can't come afterwards.

No, there's actually numerous situations where the prosecuting attorney sits in on the civil court case and here's anything if they can have in there. And then they decide during the case, almost that we are also pressing criminal charges that you would have to assume Arisa and the two other men that were also San Diego State football players, I believe. And there's numerous quotes from students.

Like, everybody had heard about this and knew about this around campus. A lot of people were wondering how this wasn't something that was being taken seriously. And he was being celebrated a lot. Oh, yeah. Like, a lot. He was the star player on their team. Wall Street Journal wrote an article,

the first punter ever to be marketable or something. So there's a lot of situations that he was being put in the spotlight. And I assume around San Diego State and the victim's family, it was like, that was probably something that was very, very serious. Once again, we do not know the entire story. Nobody does. But what we are reading and hearing about is certainly fucking alarming and disgusting. Football. Is it too much?

No. Because normally I have a pretty good little lead in with football is what we're here to talk about. But as the beat was dropping there, this is the first time I've really looked up to watch you guys do it. Full passion and energy. So we will never take anything away from anybody that does something passionately and energetically. I think we found it here with football. Yeah, I agree too. You think so? At Tone Diggs, you like that? It's got to be something

along those lines. Football works great. You know, could have been like no, I'm not going to throw out any other stupid ideas because football is great. Yeah, we don't need to. Now is not the time to throw out any ideas. The talk's at the table. At Ty Schmidt and at Boston Connor, it seems like you're ready to throw one out. Well, once football season ends,

maybe after the Super Bowl, we just change to bullshit. Yeah, because that's what we're about to talk about. For six months. It kind of sets the tone for everything. Yeah, exactly. And if we ever do a show live, which we are planning on doing,

whenever we lead off live, hello, it is blah, blah, blah, we're live and hum, hum, hum, this show begins now. We assume that there will be an entire football. Right. That would be a sick moment. That'd be sweet.

Bullshit works, too. Okay, so we keep doing this until that moment. Have to. I do want to say I love football. Still miss Let's Ride, but I love football. I do miss it. Let's Ride got played out. It did.

And that wasn't our fault. Kind of. Nope. It was college internet people. Yeah, it was college internet people. Yeah, it was college Twitters, I agree. So social media people, you're saying. Yeah, internet people. But we were certainly...

Had a big... Yeah, we were kind of pushing. We were kind of the kindling and the gasoline, man. Yeah. We kind of saw the fire and we said, oh shit, man. Throw some lighter fluid on there, man. Let's get it bigger, man. And we did.

And then other people that are much bigger than us did it as well. So we were kind of a part of the process of fucking that one up. I guess. I mean, what happens if they start doing the football? We need to call Russ. Then we will adapt. That's what we do. That's what you have to do.

Ever evolving. That's right. Adapt to survive. Kill or be killed. Adapt or die. Boom. Hoorah. Hoorah. Hoorah. Let's go. Adapters survive. Kill or be killed. Adapter die. Boom. Hoorah. Hoorah.

Let's go to an attic in Ohio. Speaking of adapter die. Yeah. This guy's had to get through life with his fingers not operating like everybody else's. Not being able to drive because he just falls asleep. Immediately upon his hands going on to a wheel, he just falls asleep. It's crazy. He's allergic to shrimp.

Couldn't go to those hoity-toity events. Couldn't do it. He's got two left feet. Drives with both of them. But somehow, someway, this walking miracle was a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup champion, the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers,

and an Ohio State Hall of Famer. Damn. Yeah. Miracle. Miracle. Aaron James Hall. Yeah! AJ!

You're a walking miracle, AJ. You know that? Yeah, I was allergic to shrimp, by the way. I knew that. I know you beat it. Not current day. Just like you were allergic to driving. Remember, it just made you fall asleep.

Then you had to fight through that as well. Only certain times. Small windows. Small windows. I stay away. Not much small window. It's every day. It's for like two hours.

It's a pretty big window. I can control it. Important hours. 365 times two. Is that 730? Yep. 730 hours of the year, this man will fall asleep immediately upon being behind a wheel.

Yeah. That's a lot of deaths. You hear me? Yeah. Isn't it pretty impressive that I'm still here? Miracle. How many people did you kill? Thank you.

Well, driving or just... Yeah, driving. Just people that you hit. Just dirty looks. Don't have the head that you have. Did you see Kirk Herbstre? Last night, a man you tried to kill was a sophomore in high school. He made his Amazon debut alongside Al have. Did you see Kirk Herbstreit? Last night in Maine, he tried to kill as a sophomore in high school. He made his Amazon debut alongside Al Michaels.

Did you watch the game? I thought Amazon did good. I thought the microphones looked a little Mickey Mouse. But I thought everything else looked very good. I think they got through the game. I'd assume the Amazon people very pumped. There's a couple tech things. It was easy to find on the Prime app.

I think they were excited and pumped. And Herbstreit's in the men's league for the first time full time ever i'm excited about all of it yeah i am too i think he looked comfortable and i don't know if he gets nervous or anxious or whatever but he had to feel a little different than he has for college games for all these years so i think he and al were great i think they're going to continue to to be great i would imagine hanging out the more you get to hang out with al michaels like the the easier like i just it would be awesome like that guy has stories for days and he's the coolest guy ever it seems like they have good chemistry i talked about this in the first hour uh 28-3 was mentioned and kirk asked out did you call that game and al said no and then herb street responded immediately like well we all watched it and just one it was like two guys

literally just having a conversation. They sounded like humans. They also sounded like guys that are working together for the first time, asking each other questions as opposed to just being like, hey, this is how a team's supposed to be, like addressing it. I think they were just humans in there, which is what Al and Kirk are, which is all we really ask for. Hey, why don't you guys just go be the best booth in the fucking NFL?

What he said. Let's go do it. Why not us? Why not them? Well, we don't have a booth in the fucking NFL. What he said. Let's go do it. Why not us? Why not them? Well, we don't have a booth in the NFL, but why not them? I'm saying those two could take that moniker, but they also, they should think, no, we already are. What do you mean? It is us. It might be.

I really enjoyed last night. I enjoyed them on the call together last night. It felt like a big game, too. I feel like the production, it feels like it's going to be, the games will feel big. We talked about this in the first hour. Amazon is getting a good lineup here for this thursday night football normally thursday night football shit games bad games always bad games because they can't be flexed and they set it up beforehand and it was part of a bigger bundle package with another network in the past now that amazon has a big bank a big bank i mean is it. I mean, is it the biggest?

Close. I don't know. Every day, right? There's two fucking... But it is, I thought, I guess. I thought... Name your company, first letter in A, and you'll make a lot of money.

Yeah, I thought Apple, Amazon, and Google are the trillion dollar companies. Apple, Amazon, Accreture. I thought it was Fangs. I thought it was... Accreture, definitely. Fangs. I thought it was Facebook,

Apple, Amazon, Netflix, Google. I don't think Facebook anymore. I think they're done. You think? Well, they're meta. They got the new Oculus coming out. Zucks on Rogan. Yeah.

That's going to go well. He was trending last night at four or something like that. Still trending today, too. Still trending. I'm sure he's selling a lot. It's Mangs now. Really? Is it Mangs?

Because meta instead of Facebook? Okay. Anyways, they're all going to get into the game with the NFL at some point. Amazon's kind of leading the way here. Amazon's been in bed with the NFL for a few years. It's kind of been a crawl before you walk type situation. And the NFL is going to give them good games. And it seems like their first game is Herbert Patrick Mahomes.

It's only going to get better from there. Good for them. They got a late Bills and Patriots game, I think. I mean, there is a hell of a lot. It's a big deal. It's a big deal that this is the first time it's ever strictly on streaming, correct? Yes. So for all the geriatrics out there that still,

what's an application? I don't know. That's a big deal. Yeah, but if they're still doing that, a lot of their life is fucked. Yeah. And I think that's kind of what the NFL said. Hopefully they have someone in their life that could write it down like a little instructional pamphlet. Here, this is how you turn the Thursday night game on.

I've seen some olds that are very good. Oh, yeah. Very, very good. They're good at texting, calling, and Twitter or Instagram, whatever. That's important. My wife's grandma, she's a very colorful, fun lady. So we give her our old iPhones.

We always have. She loves having an iPhone. I don't know how exactly old it is. It's $700 million. Here's a little hand-me-down, Graham. Sorry, I dropped it. Here's a hand-me-down, Graham. The amount of poop that has gone on there.

I don't want to put it in the trash and kill more people. Come on, now. I said give want to put it in the trash and kill more people. Come on now. No one told you to put it in the trash. Yeah, I said give it to grandma. I'm not going to smash it like Con Man and Hillary either. I don't.

Don't you fucking put me in the same sentence as her, AJ. You son of a bitch. Did you hear that laugh? I'm not going to finish what I i was saying it's one of those ones that really gets you you have outed yourself as a man that gives your grandma sorry your mother's grandma just piece of shit recycled phone so i mean that's gonna be something's gonna be tough to forget yeah that's gonna sound like it's tough to forget let's move on joining

us now as a man who has seen didn't get to make my point that's the problem go on i'll get to it later no what's your point no i want the general because she is good with phones and iphones and technology keeps you up to date with your kids and grandkids so i'm saying like technology will keep you like current so it helps 2022 feels like the right time to go to a streaming service if you're the nfl it's only going to get more and more and people are going to be spending more money than they spend on all these cables for all these streaming things but it's going to be considered much better somehow and we're all going to be pissed about it 15 20 years from now this is just the world

this is the way it's going what's going on Connor? Well in the old set you know stumble in and out of whatever bar they go to in their town are going to have the games now too because the DirecTV deal Amazon signed so they're still going to be in those locations too it's not just like hey you need Amazon you need to find the app and go through that whole situation I didn't I'm not saying it well you should i didn't think it was as easy to find

the kickoff show when i went in there oh is it different than the it should be on the home page yeah i have the game i think it just said the game knows kirk and al were sitting there and it might have been because of how late i got into it i got in like two minutes before the game started so i saw the tail end of the kickoff show, but I had to click on just the game as opposed to the kickoff show also being there when it was on the kickoff show and then the game being the game.

I think they ultimately know that no one cares about the kickoff show. You know? I mean, we're there to watch the football game. What is your problem? I'm just saying. It seems like they spend a lot of money on it. Yeah, for sure.

I think you're right. But, you know, it's like, oh, you're not going to watch the kickoff show? Boo-hoo. Who cares? You're going to watch the game. That's for sure. You are, especially when it's Justin Herbert, Patrick Mahomes. Yeah.

Good for Thursday Night Football. Happy for Alan Kirk. Let's go. Here you go, boys. Keep going. Joining us now is a man who saved football at one point during this COVID era. Yeah. Big Ten, who I listened to an interview with Greg Warren.

Kevin Warren? Kevin Warren. Kevin Warren, Big Ten commissioner. Greg Warren was a long snapper. He was a very long snapper for the Steelers for a long time. Greg Norman. Very similar. He started live.

Greg Sankey. Greg Sankey is the SEC commissioner. Kevin Warren is Big Ten commissioner. He was early in his title is Big Ten commissioner. He was early in his title as Big Ten commissioner, and he decided that the Big Ten was not going to play football because of COVID. He decided that because of

the medical experts he had, and also they were a joint conference with Pac-12. So the Pac-12 was going to do it. They were going to do it. That's two of the power fives making the decision. New in your reign as commissioner, you can get off on the right foot like, hey, I'm making a good decision.

And also grandstanding on everybody else. Of course. What hurt him was obviously the SEC saying, oh, that's cute. Big Ten ain't real. We are playing football. And then the ACC say, what are they doing in Big Ten? What a sad... We're playing football down here. And then obviously this man that's about to join us

hit the pavement, went to the commissioner's office, talked to him, and got football back in Big Ten land. Now, I will say I was very impressed with Kevin Warren when I listened to him do an interview the other day. The only thoughts I had on him before this interview was, oh, that's the guy that canceled football and thought he was saving the world.

I saw him do an interview the other day. Fucking very impressive human being. Had the Hall of Fame, the other day fucking very impressive human at the hall of fame probably yes very impressive human big you agree uh yeah who was he there with he was talking to somebody it was an interview it might have been 60 minutes or something somebody was getting enshrined though he was there supporting them maybe dick for meal it may be but listening to him speaking this interview i was like okay this guy isn't just a fucking doofus corporate Corporate true. It was very good. He's talking about paying the players a salary in the Big Ten. You should probably talk more.

Yes, that's what I think, too. That is exactly what I think. And also, another man that should talk more, the man that went to the commissioner's office and said, we ain't doing this. We're playing football in Ohio. We're already going through enough, aren't we? Hey, Coach, aren't we already going through enough?

Come on. We need football. And he pounded the pavement. He rallied the troops. He's seen Top Gun Maverick eight times already. Ladies and gentlemen, the host in Columbus, Ohio

of the show titled... What? With General Bob Carpenter. Yeah! Oh, you're asking me to intro his show. There you go, Bob. Hey, there you go, Bob.

Hey, Bob, what's the name of your show? AJ doesn't know the name. He was on it this morning. That's embarrassing. What is the problem over there, General? Yeah, morning juice. Every Friday, AJ comes on.

We get to dive into some wonderful topics, whether it's South Carolina changing their mascot name or whatever it might be. And here's why Kevin Warren now had his cooler, because you saw him pre-COVID when he was taking some bad information from people and making some decisions. I don't think he was real sure. Then he made that partnership with the Pac-12. And then all of a sudden, it'd be like me sliding over to AJ's house and like stealing a couple of

his kids, his favorite kids, and then just like absorbing them into my family after he stole USC and UCLA from the Pac-12. So I think that's what that big energy that you're feeling right there from him is after he went and cuckled the dude who he said, we're a team. Now we're on my own. Don't worry about it. Okay, stealing kids is not what cucking is, Bob. You know that, right? Cuckling? Well, I mean, I

couldn't try to slide in and steal the wonderful Miss Laura, but I would never do that. Family, family, family. So as you were getting into your cucking story in your head, you had to oh, I'm not going to say that. I'm going to go fuck AJ's wife in front of AJ. So you said steal his kids. That's what you were doing.

That's what you were doing in your head the way you were giving that answer? Okay, I got it. Still got back to the point though of cuckling at the end there. I appreciate it. Kevin Warren was also talking about potential salaries for Big Ten kids To all get and everything He should talk more I think

You think it's just going to be Big Ten SEC At some point General Bob You're more boots on the ground there in Columbus Which is obviously a college football town Well I think the ACC is always going to have a place They've got 14 or 16 teams 15 teams right now So there's a spot for them

I don't know if it's going to be, you know, to the level and degree of what the SEC and Big Ten are. Because you look at these two media deals, let's face it, guys, money makes the world go round. And so if you're competing against a school that is getting $100 million every year and you're a school that's getting $25 to $30 million, it's really, really hard to be able to make that up, out-recruit, go bring in donations and do

all those things when you're in a difficult spot like that so i don't know if the sec adds teams here shortly i would it wouldn't surprise me if in the next i don't know five four three four years when they do the new tv rights deal for the college football playoff if by that point the big 10 then is ultimately probably to i don't know let say 20, 22 teams because that's what Kevin Warren was talking about. Bob, have you been watching your guy Dan Campbell on Hard Knocks this year? I hope you have. The guy's putting on a great show. What do you think it's going to look like for the Lions?

I know you had some time there where Kid Rock was pumping you guys up before games and all kinds of stuff going on. So what do you think of Dan Campbell and his whole performance on Hard Knocks? I'm staying with the band, man. I'm staying with the – you know it. I'm staying with the band, man. Fifth in one hand, chew in the mouth, heater in the other. Hell, yeah.

Hell, yeah. Hey, he's a big fucker, Bob. I mean, he's a big guy, dude. We saw him at practice last week. Huge. Huge. Have you been watching him? Is that him all the time? Yeah, that's kind of who he's a big guy, dude. We saw him at practice last week. Huge. Huge. Have you been watching him? Is that him all the time?

Yeah, that's kind of who he's always been. I mean, he's always been that oversized dude. He's still obviously pumping weights. I'm glad that last night I actually watched the first episode two days ago, and then I watched the last two episodes last night for two and three, so I got to see the stuff at Colts Camp and everything else. Like I said, I mean, he's a combination of the dude and John Rambo. He's everything you want him to be all wrapped up together.

I think they're going to be good, man. And I say good relative. Like, they're going to be better than what they've been. Watching that thing, like, he has a bunch of former players. Those guys care a lot. The players respond to him. And I'm watching that. I'm watching Hard Knocks.

I'm sitting there telling my wife, playing in bed. I'm like, I kind of want to go coach NFL football now. I never have wanted to do that before. But if I get to coach with Dan Campbell, and that's my boss, like that dude, I'll go to war with him all day. And that's why you see Deuce Staley and A.G. and all those guys.

Those are guys that A.J. and we all played against. Heck, I played with Aaron, just missed Dan. But they've got something going on. They've got a belief. And when Dan Campbell is your coach out there and he's giving you those speeches and getting everybody juiced up and he's giving it to you real, man. Like that's the thing. A lot of the stuff he's saying, it reminds me so much of Bill Parcells. And a lot of guys didn't like playing for Bill, but Bill was going to be honest with you. Like you may not have wanted to hear what he was going to say, but if he was going to cut you, he was going to tell you that week,

if you don't get your ass better, you're on your way out of here. And people are like, that's terrible. Like, wouldn't you want to know? Because so many times in that league, you guys know it. Like, hey, put your arm around you. You're doing a great job. Next thing you know, hey, you're out of here. You'll lose your job.

Like, Dan, he's going to be honest with you guys, so at least you can respect that. The dude gets it. He's going to be honest with you guys, so at least you can respect that. The dude gets it. He's going to be honest about it. I love it. I mean, they should do the Lions for hard knocks every year because the players are all right. But the coaches are the characters in this one, man,

and they are far superior to anything else I've seen thrown out there. I concur. I love watching the team. I think Dan Campbell, I don't know if he would want me on a team that he was coaching, but I wouldn't mind me on a team that he was coaching but i wouldn't mind being on a team that he was coaching you know i think there's two different perspectives of that whole thing because once he starts diving into it all i can't help but be like at least he's keeping it like light yeah upbeat and in fascinating like intriguing so guys pay attention as opposed

to dozing off and him doing those 40 up downs general hey 40 up downs broken wrist they're doing 40 up downs before a practice starts when was the last time you seen that general high school that's a high school thing isn't it i would say the last time we actually did up downs asia we had mark d'antonio it's our is our defensive 40 we actually not 40 we may have done 25 one practice it was like bad our freshman and sophomore year. But, yeah, you never see guys doing up-downs in the NFL. And here's the best part. Like, Dan comes off as such a tough dude.

And you've heard the quote even about, you know, people want to say I'm a meathead and they underestimate me. That's fine, dude. That's only going to lead to wins and we're going to be in a good spot. But also, you had that comedian come in, and he's busting Dan's balls about not doing his uptown good job, looking like downward dog. And Dan's just sitting there laughing. So that's a coach that he's comfortable with who he is. Most guys, AJ played for a guy, if you ever questioned him, like, oh, bristle, don't make fun of me, I'm the best.

Most coaches are like that. Who's that, Big Mike? Is that Big Mike? We don't have to get it we can dive into that here in a minute but when you question them that's the reality and dan you're sitting there making fun of him calling a meathead and his up-down suck like and he's just gonna laugh about it because he's been part of the crew he's played he understands how it works yeah and by the way that comedian crushed yeah that not that's not an easy

room to go into bob what's his name josh adams there we go he killed because i saw him walking in they asked me to do that that was that was potentially going to be me in that episode doing that and i was like i got to do smackdown i am so sorry i won't be able to make it was on friday after uh practice or whatever so whenever i saw that thing start, I saw this random guy, yeah, Josh Adams, walk in. I'm like, oh, no. Oh, no. Here we go. And he said, hey, my name's Josh Adams.

At the beginning, I'm like, oh, no. This guy's got no idea the room he is talking to. He fucking killed it. I was so happy for him. I was watching, laughing. But you're right. He wasn't the only one. Aiden Hutchinson also laughing.

It felt like it's a good room. many wins we don't know but I do love watching every single Tuesday night uh the boys have some questions for you is that all right Bob let's do it all right tone you up yeah Bob uh general uh Nebraska and Northwestern open up college football season in Ireland this weekend were you asked to asked to potentially run out of the tunnel with one of the teams with the American flag or the Big Ten flag to represent all of college football? And the spread's 11.5 there. You think Nebraska's going to cover that one? Okay, I wasn't asked, but I would love to do it.

One of my favorite things is to spread American patriotism throughout the world, and now we're going to give them a little slice of what makes America so great is college football. So hopefully they can experience that and love it the way that America does. So I would have willingly, easily went over there and taken care of that. As far as that 11.5 points, I think Nebraska wins. I hope for Scott Frost's sake that they actually win, because if not, he might get fired and have to find his own ride home. So that might be a little rough.

But also, with that, I don't think this is going to be a blowout. I would take those points. If Nebraska wins by 10, I think they should be happy. Northwestern's not great, but until Nebraska proves to me that they can close out a game and not find a way to lose it at the end, I'm not going to feel great about that. Were you disgusted with how Taron looked in that helmet? Is that why you didn't say anything?

Well, I mean, it looks a little small on him. You know, I mean, you've got the beard to help bring the face out a little bit. But, I mean, that thing looks like it might fit my younger son. Yeah, it's very, very tight. It would look a lot sweeter if I had the fucking button, if I had the button for the oxygen. You were given a great answer earlier about something, I forget, Dan Campbell, I think, and he was trying to sneak his head

into that fucking helmet over there, and I'll tell you, it was quite a scene. I mean, it was a full-on, one of those situations. How many times have you seen Top Gun Maverick up to this point, and how many times have you watched it since you've been able to see it at home?

So you're going to be disappointed. I've seen it six. I have not watched it yet on Apple+. This guy's a fraud. This guy's a fraud. Oh, you're a fraud. Oh, that's crazy. Time out.

I put my foot down on this because the streaming services, like you've talked about, have gotten out of control. And I sort of realized that we're paying for stuff we're not even watching. We have like seven streaming services. I got hoodwinked when I bought Paramount Plus thinking that that's where I was going to be able to see Yellowstone, find out it's on Peacock, paying for all this stuff. I watch like five hours of TV a week that's non-football.

So why am I paying for Netflix and Amazon Prime? Apple Plus is like the last thing that I don't have. So you're taking a stand. Well, I'm trying, but they've got the NFL,. I'm going to have to get it now. Well, I'm trying, but they've got the NFL, so I'm going to have to get it. I'm taking an NFL package. But that's it.

That's the last one I'm doing. I'm done with this stuff. We're starting to spin them off. They've overtaken our lives. You said it earlier. It was supposed to be cheaper. It was supposed to be easier. All it's done now, I have more passwords.

I can't remember crap. Somehow my kids have the authorization to watch adult stuff. My account was locked. I couldn't even pull up. I was thinking the Manti-Tao documentary. I couldn't find it on there. So I'm stumbling around late night trying to watch that at 11 o'clock after I'd been drinking. So I had to stagger into some other movie and watch Tombstone or something.

Hell yeah. I mean, it was great. It was a great deal. I'm told to do Tombstone. Do some deadlifts. We've got so much crap in here, man. So I haven't seen it yet. I thought it was going to come to Paramount Plus because why wouldn't it?

Paramount's the stinking producer of the movie, so I thought they would be involved. So it's on Apple Plus. I'm going to have to break down and get it. Maverick's just going to be the cherry on the sundae because I have to get it for the NFL. So it'll all be good and don't worry. I will make sure I watch it at least two or three more times over the next week. We're a little bit worried you're a fraud

there for a second. Seriously. There's a lot of, oh no, Bob, whenever you said you've only seen it one time since it's come out. I like the fact you're taking a stand. One of my friends' dad, CFO Phil's dad actually to be exact. I don't think he'd care that I said this. He works overseas a lot on nuclear power plants. I was going to say warehouses, but that is what they are.

Same thing. But they are. The power plants is what they are. He works on them all over the world for long periods of time, out in the middle of fucking nowhere in these countries. He's working on them. Then he comes home. So obviously, he hasn't gone shopping a lot throughout his life for a lot of things.

When he comes back, it's all there. He learned what a razor was costing just a few years back, how much a razor was. And he said, I'm not shaving ever again. So he stopped shaving for like two years at a protest of the prices of razors. He inevitably had to shave at some point. protest of the prices of razors he inevitably had to shave at some point but so i like these you know one person protests just to take a stand to let people know that you are not being bamboozled by these motherfuckers but inevitably they're going to get you just like the race he had to shave at some point and they were waiting there at the same price they did not drop their

price they're waiting on papa manes just sitting there on them and he had to go back had to do it didn't love it still mad about it but you're he had to go back. Had to do it. Didn't love it. Still mad about it. But you're going to have to go in. They know it inevitably, and they got us by the balls, Bob. They got us by the balls. It's terrible. We allowed it to happen.

And, you know, it's out of respect. You guys are busting AJ's balls for giving Grandma Peg, you know, hand-me-down iPhones. Like, listen, I don't need a new iPhone with a better camera shoved down my throat every six months either. Like, I'm happy with the things that I have. You guys just want to upgrade everything, all you need. You don't necessarily need all those things.

My father-in-law, he put his foot down. He told me he's 73 years old. He goes, don't buy me any more clothes. He goes, I'm 73. I'm pretty sure I have enough clothes to last me the rest of my life. I told him I can't wait until I get to that point, probably at 55 or 60. I'm like, I have enough clothes to last me the rest of my life. And I told him, I can't wait until I get to that point, probably at like 55 or 60, where I'm like, you know what? I don't need to upgrade any fashion.

I've got what I need. If I get fat, you know what? It will encourage me to get skinny again. If I get too skinny, I'll have to lift weights to get bigger. But I'll have plenty of clothes to be able to wear all that stuff out until you can put me in my casket. And you can slide me in there naked, Pat. I don't even need anything else. In your casket? put me in my casket and you can slide me in there naked pat i don't even need anything in your casket yeah close casket what about give me a weird open casket

viewing no it's open i told you ag knew this i was gonna go shirtless shirtless open casket that was the plan beast you work out every morning still still getting after a little bit pat trying to for you man you work out with the boys over at ohio yet or no? I'm going to head over there after this. I had to do a little exam afterwards. So I'm going to head over there now and finish up that workout. How are they looking? Individual toe shoes. They look good, man.

Those guys, they're as good as they've ever been. And defensively, they've looked really good. You know what, man? There's nothing more humbling than when you've been working out with guys that are like 18 to 22. And I go in there, it's like loosen up my knee, loosen up my back. These dudes just cruise on in.

They're ready to go and just start cranking big weights, and you feel like an old man, and that's the reality of life, and it sucks. General, you're the only guy that is working out with 18, 19, 20-year-olds in the fashion that you are right now in the whole world. So keep fucking going, pal. You need to keep it going. In the whole world, you're the only person I've ever heard about. I feel like I have a lot of friends around the NFL,

a lot of friends that have played college football, retired now. You are the only human that I've ever heard does this. That's why I was so alarmed by it. And the fact that you still run with them and make times or no? I haven't run with them yet this summer. My thing is I turn 40 next year, and my goal is I want to go out, I want to run a 40 under 475, and I want to do a full conditioning test with those guys.

That's it at 40. I may hang it up at that point, but that is the goal at this point in time. Well, I remember you didn't work out with them last year, and they lost to Michigan. So I think they're happy you're back in the building. Hopefully that's the case. I mean, I'm just happy to be back. I mean, I get enough of my football, Phil,

doing demonstrating tackling with your boy AJ over there for the third and fourth-year-olds, fourth graders. I tackle a man. He's always wearing this nice, like, Michael Jordan cologne that I found out this morning that he somehow found in the corners of the Internet. Because I go in to tackle him. We've got Little League football, and he always smells so good. He used to wear the Abercrombie Fierce that Chopper used to buy him,

but I guess he's kind of went back to the Michael Jordan from the mid-'90s. Are we talking about AJ right now? Yeah, that guy. You're wearing cologne to practice third and fourth grade football practice? I get done with this. I smoke cigars all here, so I have to take a quick shower. I sprint down to practice. Yeah, if I take a shower, I'm putting cologne on, no question.

I didn't know you were a cologne guy me no i've got a bottle of cologne that's about half full that my wife bought me when i was in college like that's how much i wear cologne me too that was good enough for the both of us i've never got into it you know i grew up in a town with a lot of uh yeah a lot of a lot of uh a lot of folks like you a lot yeah you're right like me no aqua de joe yeah there's a lot of cologne around me at all times also the axe development what was that oh yeah that was so bad i thought i have such a big nose i think it's just like i i smell too much of it i'm always like How are you guys Walking around with this shit On you All day Ladies love it

I'm like Alright Well if you look like shit You smell good I don't know if that's Going to work either Connor what do you have About

Yeah Bob What are you getting Into this weekend Are you just watching Football playing Top or watching Top Gun And then also

Have you seen The terminal list Because you strike me As a guy who would Love to be down range Hey what are you doing This weekend Are you a slave

To Apple Plus And Prime this weekend is that what you're gonna do bob basically what you're asking i've got one of my my son's got a football game to uh tomorrow morning so i got that i'm gonna try to coach some stuff up with aj we've got an event on saturday night you got these charity events um i have not seen terminal list that is on my watch list to ultimately get done i think that's on amazon so i'm gonna try to get to get that. I love Chris Pratt, one of my favorites. I've heard the show is absolutely fantastic. So that's the next thing. Like I said, I just finished up Yellowstone, I don't know, this week.

So I'm fully caught up with that. And this is – I try to enjoy it, man, because I'll watch a little bit of that Nebraska Northwestern, maybe the whole thing if it's good. But as of next week, the weekends just fly by. You're just ripping paper off during football season. We're already within four months of Christmas, so the weekends just fly by. You're just ripping paper off during football season. We're already within four months of Christmas, so the year's basically done.

Don't be so negative. Good point. Football season is just 5,000 miles an hour. There's no day off. It's just basically the same day every day. Smackdown.

That's what life is. I can't wait for it, Bob. This offseason, I'm ready for this shit to be behind us, aren't you? Listen, now don't wish it away, Pat. Now get the fuck out of here. The offseason, we're wishing it away.

Yeah, like don't fast forward the summer either. Like you need to enjoy the summer for what it is and then you enjoy football season for what it is. Football season. I mean, Coach, football season. You tied it all together. Here's the thing. It's like a two-story beer bong that's got about two beers and five shots in it.

So, like, you hammer that thing down and then you just stagger around the rest of the year. I mean, you're drunk as a you're drunk you're feeling great but i mean you're not functionally being able to do anything like you can't take vacations you can't do any of that yeah i mean that's exactly where you're at aj knows what i'm talking about yeah i think you saw you do it i believe that was a story potentially from yourself and i want to let you know very impressive if you're doing two beers five shots in a two-story beer bong i've done a a six-beer, two-story beer bong before. That was, yeah.

Six beers. Dude, your stomach would explode. I would love to watch that. No, it did, yeah. It got that. First person to ever complete that, I was told, at the house that I walked up to and said, what do you got here?

He said, we don't put six beers. What do you got here? It was literally outside. The party was happening in the front yard. Here's the problem. When you get the two-story beer bombs, you really have to trust the folks that are at the top of that thing

because you have no control and no idea of what fluids and how much of them are going in there. Yeah, let's assume somebody fucking spit in that thing. Oh, yeah. Oh, you hope they spit. That's the least of it. Exactly. It did have a little piss taste there at the end. much of them are going in there yeah i let's assume somebody fucking spitting that thing exactly it did have a little piss taste there at the end i guess but yeah six beers down place went crazy obviously it was right it was quite a moment because whenever that two-story beer hits you too that shit's like a fire hose fast so there's a little bit of a spray at the

beginning so if you can corral the spray there's a big pop out of the people you know that's like halfway through that ago then you finish it and you like leave it open and there's like little drops you know everybody goes crazy yeah hold it down hold it down all right all right so you gotta keep it moving and then i projectile vomited on the side of the house and i had to get out of there. But nobody saw me puke. I learned that just like a year ago or two years ago. The Athletic did an article about stories about me before anybody else knew about me. The Athletic did this article.

And one of the people they talked to was Ryan Dorchester, who was the equipment manager for West Virginia at the time. It was his house. And he was having the party. And I was either freshman or sophomore. It was his house, and he was having the party. And I was either freshman or sophomore. I forget. I was, like, going over to the party. He told this story to the athletic or whatever.

And in there, he said he's the first and only human we've ever seen handle it or whatever. I had to call him afterwards and be like, hey, I don't need you to continue to tell this story because it's not. I projectile vomited all of that directly across the street immediately afterwards. So it's quite a scene, but you're right. That is what football is.

Drinking from a fire hose. We got Thursday night football is going to be awesome. You see that Ohio fuck Herbstreet last night calling NFL games? I'm happy for him, Bob. I love your terms of endearment. Those are absolutely amazing. I mean, he's a Centerville elk. He's an A.J. alum.

A.J. played on Kirk Herbstreet Field growing up in high school. alum. A.J. played on Kirk Herbstreit Field growing up in high school. Oh, A.J. also knocked Kirk Herbstreit out of contact football. Whenever there was an alumni game, he won helmet to his jaw. And Herbstreit, as a 30-year-old, took the helmet off for the last time. I can't believe I've never heard that story, A.J. Herbstreit told a story on here. Oh, really? Yeah.

He came on. He was like, hey, did your guy here ever tell you about the alumni game in Centerville? And we're like, alumni game? I'm excited to hear this. Because you work out with the Ohio State team. You're 39 years old. There's an alumni game in Centerville, Ohio, which is like one of the most Ohio places of all time, where guys that graduated high school already put on full fucking pads and play against the high school team.

I had no idea this happened. Ohio's the best. Not anymore. They don't do it anymore. Because you aimed at him. Yeah, you killed a guy. So he speared with his ride-o, obviously. Kirk Herbstreit, jaw here, sideways as he was coming through.

Kirk's running the triple option. He's my responsibility. First off, I think he stayed in the game, actually. I don't know if he left. No, he cut his helmet off, took his pads off, and they stopped the game. He's pissed. Never put him on again. Maybe later that night he decided to hang him up.

No, it was like a joint practice. Let's talk about this, General Bob. Joint practice is always a fight. Every single time. I don't know how often it happened when you were playing. I think we were a part of it one time when I was in the league. Now it's just like a very common occurrence. You're hearing a lot of players come out and be like,

this is just a setup for a fight. That's all this is. Kyle Long tweeted, joint practices should be outlawed. Other guys were like, it is not. Cam Hayward put out a tweet that was like, it's just a two-hour, you're ready for a fight, basically, to take place. Players hate it.

Coaches and evaluators love it. This Aaron Donald shit is obviously making massive waves because they want him suspended actual games for a pre-season practice action even though there's been 20 fights in the last 10 days are we going to judge them the same as what has happened before what are your thoughts on joint practices and do you ever see one just going like kumbaya i do not as somebody that's watched a lot of practices from the front row so first of all, we covered a lot of ground right there. Before we move on, you know, AJ,

Centerville is the only place where they're actually running a triple option in an alumni game. This isn't like seven-on-seven running the spread. I mean, it's like Wes Kane and AJ. I saw him and his dad. He put that beer on top. He'd have AJ just fire that pigskin off and knock the beer right off his head like varsity blues.

Wes Kane and Centerville might be the same place. As with the joint practices, like you were saying, Pat, I mean, those things are a mess. We had a joint practice when I was in Dallas my second or third year with the Denver Broncos. And we got Wade Phillips there. So, you know, like we're with Denver's offense, Dallas defense with Broncos offense over there,

or Broncos defense, and they're moving back and forth. And so you hear commotion on the other field. So we look over, and I'd watch Flozo Adams, and I told this story because no one could believe the Miles Garrett situation two years ago. I'm like, I watched Flozo Adams tear off Jarvis Moss' helmet and literally pull off and then just straight up reverse, boom, smoke him on the top of the head with it. I mean, massive fight ensues.

Last play of the practice, split up. We're going with our own team. Broncos are going with their team. That stuff happens every year because, like you said, guys are fighting for their jobs. They're fighting for their lives. And don't think for a second the guard that's blocking Aaron Donald doesn't think, hey, this is a chance for me to make the team. If I can block this dude

and I can wear him out a little bit, he's the best defensive lineman possibly ever. It's going to help my case to make the team. And that's why the coaches like it, man. They can control it. This isn't like a game where people are subbing in and out. This is good on good situation over and over again. And you're doing

it for multiple days. That's the other thing. You don't play the same team the next day in a row, so you can harbor all those feelings and think about how the dude beat you in one-on-ones or this guy shoved you later. Oh, and film. Bob, say in film, too, the laser pointer.

Oh, look what Aaron Donald did to you today. Like just, hey, you want to make the team? Want to be a starter? Can't put this on film. And then the next day, it's immediately, Bob, immediately. Oh, it's terrible. That's the thing. The coaches don't fight.

Dan said it. We don't want you to fight. We'll kick you out. And Parcells would say, if you broke your hand, I'm giving you a non-football injury because you're punching a helmet. You're getting kicked out. You're getting fined 15 grand. But the coaches, the same coach that tells you not to fight will also sit there

and run back the last half second of a play when the whistle's blown and the dude's pushing you. You're going to let him treat you like that? You're just going to back down? Then it's like, what do you want me to do? You want to push the guy late and then start a full on melee afterwards? The coaches love it. The players, it's the worst two days you're ever going

to have but they they love the evaluation it's probably safer than pre-season but the fact that you would talk about suspending it you have people now this is what i call like the outrage crowd what is that here we go i go you know why you guys are outraged i go it's people that are outraged about something that doesn't impact you when the people that are playing don't care about it i never players are coming out saying we should eliminate you know maybe the joint practices but i didn't hear one per one player saying who's currently in the nfl aaron donald's a terrible dude he should be kicked out of the league he should be suspended that's everybody else who doesn't play football anymore so why why is it their job to tell the

guys that are playing what is safe and acceptable? Here's the news flash. You guys know this. The NFL is not a normal workplace environment. There is no normal workplace conduct. The things that coaches tell you, they would, HR would, there is no HR department in the NFL. You can't go and cry and say the coach called me X, Y, and z and embarrassed me in front of the team they made me weigh in in front of other guys and told me i was a fat ass and i was overweight i need to quit

eating so much at night you can't say that in a real world that's everything that happens and you know why it happens because you got to be tough to play it and you got to be a dude and that's the last bastion of dudeness we have in the united states. Oh, geez. I mean, then you just, so you took that all the way. The last bastion of dudes in the United States is the NFL? Well, outside of the military. College football in the NFL, outside of the military. That's where we're at. That doesn't even count.

Those people are, they're real, they're real folks. Like, I'm talking about, like, UFC, combative sports is really all we got left. Where you can't be offended by someone saying something and calling you a name. I don't feel good about that anymore. General, you know what another thing that I thought of immediately upon everybody saying he should be suspended for what he did in that practice? I'm like, okay, well

going forward, I'd like every player to negotiate their contracts off of shit they did in practice. You know what I mean? If it's only going to be the bad stuff, let's also make it the good stuff too. I kicked a 75-yard field goal yesterday. Hey, Chuck, I'm going to need some fucking kicker pay, pal.

The precedent of what you start practice, that is kind of self-maintained whatever the case. Hey, everybody's smarter than everybody, Bob. That's kind of the way it goes. Go ahead, Ty Schmidt. General, you mentioned Centerville, and you also mentioned MCDC's kind of wanting way it goes. Go ahead, Ty Schmidt. General, you mentioned Centerville, and you also mentioned MCDC's kind of wanting you

to coach again. I know you're coaching your son with AJ. Isn't your dad one of the biggest legends in high school football coaching in Ohio? Are we talking the next couple years here? You're going to maybe take that mantle and, I don't know, turn into Gary Gaines or something in Ohio?

Maybe. Rest in peace. he did just retire last year my dad my dad did so he had been in his all our alma mater for the last 23 years um congrats that's one of the things congrats coach there you go admiral carpenter he comes he comes back and watches he our kids and does all that now. He's a full-time grandfather. But he literally, one of the speeches he would give, as he's telling guys going into your camp your senior year, it was like directed to seniors, like, listen, you guys have two weeks of two-a-days, three weeks of two-a-days, a couple scrimmages, ten games, assuming you stay healthy. The things you can do on a football field will get you thrown in prison

after this point in your life. You can no longer do those things. It's called assault then at that point, gentlemen. So make sure that you appreciate what you're doing. We're going to make you tough. We're going to make you hard. You can go do all these things. But, yeah, I mean, that was kind of the methodology that we preached

because we were very similar to Centerville. We lined up. We ran the wing tee. We were just going to try to pound you there for 60 minutes. Bob, what's it like seeing all this? I love when your clips pop up. Make you hard. We're going to pound you for 60 minutes.

Go ahead, AJ. Sorry about it. He's gritty. Well, your dad also, his dad coached a North-South All-Star game I played in with Bob, who I roomed with Bob as well going into our freshman year in college. And his dad, very quiet, reserved dude, but gave a legit pregame speech where he got so jacked like i he's awesome awesome coach but wow what's like when you see a little clips of him

popping up but your dad played tailback in the nfl will score touchdowns for a long time patriots yeah it's uh it's pretty cool thanks to you know social media now they all tag me on this stuff you know big blue nate big blue vcr for the giants some of the old Houston Oilers fans. And it's cool, man, because my kids just know my dad is like Grandpa. He's a 65, 67-year-old dude now. And they see him. He's got a little limp. He needs his knee replaced, and he won't listen to me about it.

So he's just trying to fight through life with it. But they get to watch that, and they watch Rand Paul run around and rush for a buck 61 against the Philadelphia Eagles in the playoffs and have the rushing record there, which I think he still has, for a playoff game, and get to see that cool stuff and listen in to John Madden, the late, great John Madden, Pat Summerall comment about his toughness, his grittiness, playing the playoff game, his ankle's all jacked up,

he's crawling back to the huddle. Like that's the stuff that I'm glad they get to see because that's something that I kind of would hear stories about, you know, from Parcells and dudes that played with, you know, through coaching that had played with him. And so it's a pretty surreal feeling. And that's the stuff when I get around A.J., A.J.'s kids, I try to tell them that because I always say the coolest things I ever got to hear

were from my dad's former teammates telling me how tough he was and how good he was. And so anytime I'm around my former teammates, I always make sure I tell their kids how good your dad was and what he was all about. That's awesome. That's very nice of you. You're a good man, General. You saved Big Ten football and

we'll never ever forget it. Have a fantastic weekend and make sure you pay Apple on time bob yeah hey the good news is man it's like anything else pat all that stuff set up automatically i don't even know what i pay for anything anymore all i know my kids just purchased a million things and i want to come back as one of them in my next life all right well i hope you get to do that ladies and gentlemen general bob carter yeah Gentlemen, General Bob Carpenter. Yeah, Bob! Thank you, General! Bob!

He's all the way back. We got four games. AJ, you're more than a second behind there. You can't blame your clock. You can only blame you're willing to participate in this program. To my left, your right, AJ Hawk, who is a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup champion,

COVID survivor, Toxic Table, Hat-Tie. At Boston Corner. Also, one half of the hammer. Done. Cowboys. Tone Diggs. Tone, how are we gambling? What are we thinking?

You gave me an entire Excel spreadsheet. I think we should run through these real quick before our guest joins us because he is wrapping up his MMA practice right now. So, tonight, Bills and Panthers. Bills aren't going to play anybody. Panthers are playing starters at least into the second quarter. We were lied to, right? I don't know if that was a good sign. Was Shanahan like, I don't want to show any more of what Trey looks like right now.

We don't want to ruin his confidence. We get him out of the ballgame. I think what Shanahan was talking about was the offensive line not being anywhere near good enough. That's how people were construing his words. I forget what he said, but that's what everybody was saying he was saying. But nonetheless, Trey Lance still got a lot of room to grow. Let's assume he's going to be able to pull it off. We were lied to.

And Dougie. Yeah, Dougie. Seahawks and Cowboys. Drew Locke's going to play three quarters. I think Geno's going to start. Cowboys don't ever play starters, so that's why it's a seven-point spread there for the Seahawks. Chargers and New Orleans.

Chargers have never played starters. orleans we don't know and new england vegas not a lot of uh news coming out of that one either they've had joint practices this week are you guys fighting over there uh no no real fights and i do assume they'll play starters just because bill and mcdaniels are probably on the same page as far as uh game plans going like the blitz and all that like first quarter yeah? Yeah, that was a problem before. Yeah, first quarter, probably maybe even just the first half of the first quarter. Got it. A couple drives, a couple series.

Saturday, Jags, Falcons, Rams, Bengals, Eagles, Dolphins, Bears, Browns, Cards, Titans, Bucks, Colts will be at that game. Tom Brady will be taking on Matt Ryan. Jim Irsay tweeted that last night. That should be fun for at least a quarter. Who knows how long that'll be. And Vikings, Broncos. Any intel on those games, Diggs?

The only one I think where starters are, two of them where both starters are going to go, is the Bears and the Bronx. Starters are going Bears-Brown? Yep. And then Bucs and Colts. The other ones, it doesn't look like starters are going to go, really. And Sunday, Giants at the Jets.

Oh, battle in New York. Yeah. And then Lions at the Steelers. What do you think there? Steelers starters are going first half. So are the Lions, but they're not playing Goff. So, you know, lean. So, Trubisky's playing first half?

That's what they said. And then Kenny Pickett gets third quarter, and then Mason Rudolph gets fourth. Lions are not playing Goff, but they're playing everybody else. Is Jamal Williams playing? Probably. Oh, yeah. Can we bet on him getting 200 yards? Probably.

Well, and who knows if Goff walks into MCDC's office and says, hey, look, I'm fucking pumped. Well, MCDC actually said, there's nothing the quarterback can say, man. Not happening. Not happening, man. We're going to have him out there paying him $30 million. We're going to wait until we've got to fucking really pay him. Christ, I forgot about that.

What? He's getting paid $30 million. I completely forgot about that. What's your problem? pay $30 million. I completely forgot about that. What's your problem? DJ Lane said yes to it. It's a long-term answer. What are you talking about? My God.

Jesus. Going right. He's been to a Super Bowl. He tied Mason Rudolph. Yeah, true. He did set the single-season record for the Lions in accuracy. So people were saying, you know, was that that good in Detroit? There's some other storylines.

Let's bounce around a little bit. The top 20 players in the NFL have been released, but it's not in order. So the top 20 is comprised of these men right here. Devontae Adams, Josh Allen, Tom Brady, Aaron Donald. If he plays this year. Get him off right now. Miles Garrett, Derrick Henry, Tyree Kill, JC Jackson, Justin Jefferson, Travis Kelsey,

Cooper Cup, Shaquille Leonard, Patrick Mahomes, Micah Parsons, Jalen Ramsey, Aaron Rodgers, Deebo Samuel, Jonathan Taylor, TJ Ryan, and Trent Williams. I guess they will debut the actual list Sunday 8 p.m. for the top 20

of the NFL voted on by the players I think and coaches or something like that quite an honor for those guys no matter how good you are it always feels good uh for your your peers to vote you into the top of your class don't you think AJ absolutely that's all people care about is like what do how does your team feel about you what do you what do your peers think are you accountable to them that's all that matters really yes getting voted captain by your teammates is worth a lot more than getting voted to an All-Pro by some media person that doesn't know what they're talking about. This being by the players for the players,

I assume even though these guys have accomplished a lot, most of them are incredibly wealthy already, seeing that their names made the top 20 for yet another year was a moment in which they said, that's pretty fucking cool. Same with their families, same with everybody around them, AJ. Absolutely. I just want to know who's going to be number one.

Oh, he's going to be number five. Because he's top five, top five, top five, top five, top five. You know what I mean? That's a big deal. Because you can be top 20. Oh, that's cool. Not better than top five. What one of those losers is going to drift down to 18 or 19 in the NFL? Who will be judged worse than who?

I'm pretty sure Aaron Donald has been number one maybe the last two years, but after yesterday, are we sure? He might be 20. Kick him out. He's out of 100. Please. He's not in my 100. Example for kids.

I'm going to read some of these tweets. He assaulted someone. People are legit mad. He assaulted someone. I would like to read some of these tweets. We should do this. People are legit mad. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Trying to kill a guy.

I mean, hear the story Bob told about Flozel. Anyone who knows Flozel, he was a giant. Turns out Lyle Collins also ripped off Michael Floyd's helmet and threw it at him as well. Yeah. And Lyle Collins was at the center of all of them. Are we taking him out for the tour? No, he plays for the Bengals.

Can't do it. Well, I think he should probably spend a week one at least. Lyle Collins should. All right, here we go. Maybe. It's like what they do on Jimmy Fallon, right? No, no, this is Camel. Mean tweets.

I can't remember Pat ever taken so many l's before definitely a double standard on this take says joey wolf so many joey wolf obviously a man who's a father and uh this is him right here this fucking guy i would smack you so hard in the fucking mouth if we're playing football together joey wolf you hear me but but if we're in real life i can't do that because there's a separation between football and real life. In game, in practice, in preseason, says Joey Wolf, who would just get absolutely smacked around. The Rams should suspend him.

That's not how you want a leader of your team acting. Doesn't matter if it's preseason or not, says Michael Lawrence. This guy, this guy, he seemed to have a pretty similar look, these people. A lot of Ohioans, I do believe. This guy. This guy. Yeah, these Ohioans. Bengals and Miles Garrett, right?

That is, this is all of Ohio rallying behind this. It is awesome. Does it matter if it's in practice or prime time? People wanted Miles out of the league and in prison for swinging a helmet. Safety is key no matter where it happens pat says tony who god damn it digs it wasn't tony dogs no stay right here tony's ready to fucking go i mean tony's no problem at all right there tony um let's see let's see who else um i did enjoy one where they said Oh I get it got a shill for the big market Now you got NFL rights Yeah of course we give a fuck about the Rams

I do not give a fuck About the Rams even more so after yesterday Which is off air stuff Not because of what Aaron Donald did No no Different situation Jack Hawk here not to be confused with Mike You're right suspension isn't enough, not to be confused with Mike.

You're right. Suspension isn't enough. He needs to be thrown under the jail, especially for weeks three and ten. Oh, sounds like... And he's got a... He's got a bula thing as his. So it's hard to... This guy's on our side. Yeah, this guy's kidding.

He's joking around. Yeah, I'm taking a lot of heat right now, man. A lot of Ohioans have learned what Twitter is and have gotten very pissed off about Aaron Donald swinging the helmet. Let's talk to a man who had to play against Aaron Donald on a very regular basis. A man who's from the same city as Aaron Donald in Pittsburgh and a man who might have a little bit more intel than we have on players fighting each other because that's what he did for a living. He assaulted people for a living for a long time.

He got paid to go to college. Well, he got a full scholarship to college To assault people every single day of his life In high school He made it into a fucking hall of fame For assaulting people AQ Shipley AQ how you doing

I'm good guys how are you How's MMA practice I love this thing I think I like this better than I like football How are you? How's MMA practice? I love this thing. I think I like this better than I like football. Oh, you're in there rolling around, tapping out, doing a little getting skin on skin. You feel like you're back in the action? Look at this, man. When I get obsessed with something, I go all in.

I bought every fucking pad known to man. You got a gi yet? No, I didn't get a gi yet. I think that's next i'm gonna start learning how to roll around just so and you tell us as much as you want to tell us you went into a man's basement today and did full fight practice before you came on this show yeah yeah i mean it's i did i met a couple guys that were Alright, Khabib A couple that were professional fighters And

They asked me if I wanted to start hitting mitts with them And I started hitting mitts with them And I'm obsessed with it I bought the same fucking bike that we do for training over there So I can get extra here I bought gloves, I got the fucking pads I'm about to put my kids into fucking BJJ practice

I'm all in right now. How are you allowed to do this, but they said your neck would break if you did football again? Well, I'm not taking shots. I'm just hitting mitts. For now. You're like a mark for this fight club. You get to go into this fight club down there.

That was sweet. That was a good combo. See the elbow high? Wow. I wouldn't take you on. No. Thanks. Thanks.

Are you punching people down there? Because motherfuckers need to be arrested for that. No, no punching. It's just hitting mitts and getting your heart rate up to 180 and laying on the ground feeling like you're going to fucking die forever. There's some clips of AJ training as well. I was wondering if you had ever done any of these. Pretty high-level stuff.

AJ, you're a big MMA guy, right? Don't you do some of this training? Nope. I was a fan of MMA. I still am a fan of it. Are you? I think AQ's the same thing. AQ's kind of on the side.

You're hitting mitts while they're rolling, and then in between periods you're doing your thing. How's it go? So there's a heavy bag there's like an uppercut bag um two guys are holding mitts so you kind of just work this little rotation there's no on the ground stuff for this time i think they do that some other time but i'm not ready for that i don't think i honestly don't think i'm not with your neck yeah your neck yeah i don't think i can do that they they made me tap out six times in one minute before all those guys. I went and did it one time.

It was a bad decision. I regretted it immediately. I had a double arm bar. I broke both my arms. I tried to tap out. I had to do it with my foot. Couldn't do it because I couldn't move my arms. I got a lot of respect for these guys because this shit's the hardest thing I've ever fucking done.

We couldn't find a video of this particular drill, but did you do any any of this did you do any of the side kicking with somebody holding the bag have you gotten to the legs yet or just mitts so we did uh they had the tie pads today so they were holding off to the side and you had a kind of rotate a couple knees yeah exactly are you getting stars for every class you go to and how many people are in the class it's it's uh it's different every week it's funny there's like i think there's like eight or ten guys on the group chat sometimes they're six sometimes they're four these guys are all like pretty successful people so it's like i'm just trying to rub elbows no no you're not trying to look you're trying to throw yeah elbows trying to throw high oh what high elbows. Hey, did you hear about this Aaron Donald stuff? I'm getting attacked right now for saying,

what are we even talking about for this guy getting suspended in a regular season for a preseason practice helmet throw? Now, it was obviously alarming. It's obviously not something you would like to become a habit or to happen, but these joint practices are basically a setup for a melee every single time. What are your takes and thoughts on people saying they should be suspended? Aaron Donald should be suspended forever, AQ. I think they should go to

training camp and watch a training camp practice because there's 16 fights of fucking practice. And then now you're going to mix another team in? There's going to be 16 more fights, right? That's just ultimately what happens. I mean, it's obviously you

in the heat of the moment, you don't want to see somebody grab a helmet and try and fucking clock you in the head with a helmet. Probably not the best decision he ever made. I would have to say that, but you do see fights consistently in training camp practices, and then whenever it's joint

practices, it's even elevated. I concur. Go ahead, AJ. Do you think joint practices will be something that they take a look at and say, hey, we may never do this again? Well, I think they're starting to get to that point, right? I mean, I think it's starting to you're starting to get more and more fights. I think these coaches think it's a great idea because now that's a way to get work in and not have to maybe risk as much injury in a game.

So now you can get that full speed work against another team. But now if it becomes, you know, detrimental to everybody, right, because now you're starting to have to worry about all these fights. You're seeing two or three fights almost every joint practice. These players fucking hate it. Like, let's be honest, they fucking hate it. You hated it as a player. I hated it as a player. Like, you got MCDC saying, all right, we're going to get this thing. I can't wait for these next two days a player. I hate it as a player. Like, you got MCDC saying,

all right, we're going to get this thing. I can't wait for these next two days a week. Every player in their mind is like, God, fuck. Two more days of this shit? Yeah. Nobody wants it. Yeah, no players want it.

Coaches and evaluators want it, though, for everything you said. You get an eyes on two rosters as opposed to one, and you own all the film. So normally you only get to see, like, game tape, and if you have a relationship with somebody, you can see a guy who's maybe a 56 person on your roster,

but on another team he might be 51 or 52. So there's a difference between being cut, making a team, and maybe you're missing a spot. Now you're seeing an entire other roster of 80, 85, 90 people. Not everybody's going to make a team. I see why it's beneficial from an evaluation standpoint. I see why coaches enjoy enjoy because you can get exposed in those situations a little bit different from somebody else's team as opposed to your own team but i haven't heard one single player that's

like let's do joint practice not not a right not a one and i think the nfl will have to look at especially and maybe that's why aaron donald did Yeah. Maybe Aaron Donald and that Cincinnati Bengals guy, after a really polite first practice, second day they said, hey, we got to do some real shit or we're going to have to do this every single year. We ain't doing this anymore. And they're like, what's some real shit? And the Bengals guy was like, oh, you should Miles Garrett, Mason Rudolph.

Perfect. All right, all right. That's why I'll leave it unstrapped a little bit, and I'll tell you when. And then you fucking swing that thing. It'll become such a backlash that everybody will be like, no more of these joint practices. Hey, Q, what do you think about that? You think maybe that's what happened?

I mean, if that was orchestrated, that's maybe the greatest thing that I've ever heard in my life, right? I mean, like, that would be an all-time plan, you know. But, no, I don't think it happened. I think, again, it's heat of the moment stuff and shit happens, especially in those joint things. And especially with Aaron, that's what you've got to understand, right? Every single game that guy's played for the last seven years, right,

he's playing the three technique on the outside. The center is sliding to him, and he's taking two shots every time, right? So now you amplify this in practice, it's like hey like where the fuck's 99 okay we're gonna slide to him and now all practice long he's working the outside shoulder the guard that center's coming to get a shot he's coming to get a shot coming in eventually it's gonna piss him off you hit him in the back you hit him in the side maybe now he pissed he's hot it's in the middle of wherever they practice louisville, Kentucky, Cincinnati. I don't know where they're at. And he's like, man, forget this shit.

I'm done. I'm done. I'm fucking swinging now. Exactly. Well, you know, Aaron does that move where he grabs somebody's face, and you can tell that he's making eye contact with them, and he's telling him. He's probably done it to you.

I don't know. But he's telling them, I think, like, hey, this is not the fucking – this is not what you want to do with your life right now. And then if it escalates, you can see how he goes, well, that's fucking mine. Miles Garrett did that, and now he did hit somebody else with a helmet on, with the helmet. So,

I don't know if he maybe took, like, Kevin Huber's helmet, the punter's helmet off, and went in and hit an offensive lineman, but there's people calling for him to be suspended forever at this point. Six games is precedent. Somebody got a nice shot on him at the end, though. I will say, he took a little spill at the end.

I don't know who got a nice little push on him at the end. It was pretty nice to see. You had to play against him a lot. He's the guy, huh? He is the guy. Why is he the guy? He's so talented. I mean, he's, I don't know.

He's a dog, though, right? He's a dog, too. Like, that's the thing. He's from Pittsburgh, obviously. he's really good man i mean there's no other i mean he's when it's all said and done he might be the best defensive lineman ever to play the game right i think people are probably putting him in that category already he's just so good at keeping his feet moving he has a motor he you you sit there and it's every coach is like oh get your hands on get your hands on fucking. Get your hands on him. It's fucking cheap. You lose right now when you're trying to get your hands on him. It's a fucking wrap.

Quarterback's down. It's one of them things where you almost don't want to get your hands on him. You want to kind of make him make a move and then hope to hold on and balls out. It's one of those things because he's so good at winning right now at the line of scrimmage. He does such a good job flipping his hips either way, no matter what. You overset him a tick, he's inside. Now the center's short and he works back this side. It's incredible what he does.

When you watch his film, it's impressive to break down. I'd say, and you got to play against him. You did well. I think I've seen some clips of that whole thing. But that's not what you want your leader to do. That's not what you want your leader or your leader to do no that's not what you want your leader your team to do you know that's what uh mike from ohio said he's an embarrassment to the rams this guy that's what i was told you know aaron donald the guy that fucking won a super

bowl for him literally on the last play he's the best player of all time that's what you want as a leader that guy getting that fired up for a fucking joint practice that doesn't mean a fucking thing on whether or not aaron donald's gonna have success this year right that's that's another that's another added element to this that he is invested enough in this practice to care enough to get into a fight like that as opposed to just being like yeah this is a fucking waste of time the fact that he's out there is a big deal the fact that he's even practicing is huge let alone he's this invested you're right like he cares that much much. When people are talking about him retiring and the guy, he's that passionate.

You could turn this into a very positive thing for them. No, it is. He's not what you want out of the leaders. I can't do that. AQ, that's not what you want out of the leaders. Oh, no. Should I be doing that? That's what I was.

My comment. Let's read one. Let's read another one. This should be a segment where you zoom in on all these guys' faces. I was watching. That was pretty good. So he shouldn't be held accountable for endangering the safety of another team's players, says Max Powers. This guy fucking cares, dude.

Looks like me in a fucking helmet. What did they do to him, though? Did seven guys jump him before we don't know um yeah i'd love to know i'd love to know the play leading up to that i really would i assume there was no not just one play right that's a couple that's a full you you breaking down how the center is like okay 99 to the right here, so I'm going to snap this, and I'm going to put my helmet right into his ribs here while he's getting work in a preseason with the guard right there at the time. I'm telling you, and this is a legitimate statement,

going into Rams week, almost every team in the league installs a new protection. They'll just literally call it go to 99 find them oh he's over there perfect we're going that way back go the other way oh he's over there we're going that way that's what like uh they've done a nice job of trying like when staley went there they started doing a nice job when wade was there wade ran his scheme his system and you know obviously wade's a legend, right? But he stuck with his scheme like a lot of great coaches do. Their scheme works. They stick with it, right? So they would put 99 to the three technique, and as AJ knows, right, the 4-2 scheme, typically, the Mike linebackers do the three tech, right? So you could

always end up sliding to 99. When Staley went there, they would start going a lot more five down stuff or putting the Mike opposite 99. So now you have to make a decision. Do we slide to the fucking mic or do we go to 99? And now teams start saying, fuck it, we're just going to go to 99. And then now they start running all these blitzes the other way and getting you blitzing on the back. And they got guys that can rush the passer who are blitzing the back.

So, I mean, it ends up being such a... Bobby Wagner, then. What you just broke down is Bobby Wagner just signed with them Super Bowl fucking MVP almost. Or was he? I don't remember. Had a touchdown. Whatever the case. Bobby Wagner, then. What you just broke down is Bobby Wagner just signed with them, Super Bowl fucking MVP almost. Yeah. Or was he? I don't remember. No.

Had a touchdown. Whatever the case. Bobby Wagner just signed there, and that's now the game that you guys are going to have to play on the offensive lineman, I guess? Yeah. I mean, it's going to be such a – and they always put Floyd opposite him.

So you got him, you got Donald here, you got Floyd over there, you got the mic to this side. You probably put Jalen somewhere else. So it's like pick your poison. You're fucked either way. Well, don't put a helmet inside of Aaron Donald a few times, especially if you're from fucking Ohio. He's still a Pittsburgh dude.

That's the way it's going to go. So, Ty, your question for AQ? AQ, the Packers recently moved Bakhtiari off the PUP, and now it's kind of been like he's feeling better, but they don't know when he's going to play. When you're coming off like a major injury like that that how do you temper wanting to get back in there but also knowing that you don't feel right and obviously he's the only guy who will know but like when do you expect him to kind of like actually have his feet back under him so to speak completely yeah it's a good

question so when i came off my acl you know i I played my first game a little over a year after it happened. And, you know, adrenaline can do amazing things. So when you get in those games, some things can really change. But I will say that, like, it did not feel 100% normal until that 18-month mark, which I think he's probably past that point at this point. So at his stage, it just has to become a comfort level it has to just be getting reps again trusting it doing all that things it's such a that injury is more psychological than it is anything else and you know i know he's had a

couple setbacks and stuff like that but i think once he once he trusts it gets rolling again i think he'll be pretty good yeah have you told those people in your little fight club that you know for the rest of your life you and me with that neck thing, I just give you one little hip toss, you're probably in a wheelchair forever. So, like, you have to, have you told them that? Have you told them that or no? No, I haven't told them that. That has never come up, actually. That's one of my favorite moments in the history of maybe my friendship with anybody is because it was such a devastating blow to you.

You go into that meeting, right? I don't think you were expecting to hear the news at all that you were hearing. Kind of out of nowhere. Hey, yeah, by the way, never going to be able to play football again. You've committed your entire life. It's like, God damn, Doc, we have slowed down maybe into that. And it kind of, and it took you, you know, and I got an opportunity to chat with you that day. Very lucky to talk to you that day. And I was trying to figure out how, how do we get a little positivity out of this thing at the end, you know? And it's a true statement.

I still stand by it to this day. I want to let you know that on a golf course, you fucking get a little sideways or whatever. Just know that you're one away from us is wheeling you out of there. Right. Is that how it works? I don't know science enough. Is that it?

I think it's something like that. It's like ironic that like the doc was like, Hey, uh, you know, for the next six weeks, let's try not to get into a car accident. Let's let's let's. And I'm like, what the fuck does that even mean? And ironically, five weeks later, what?

It's like three days before the Super Bowl. I come to a stop coming up to an exit. I'm looking in the rearview mirror. This girl's staring at her phone. Re rear ends me doing 45 miles an hour luckily like i see i'm watching the whole thing in real time i fucking cut the wheel to the right take my foot off the brake and just off to the side got rear ended doing like 45 50 miles an hour jesus almost took yeah she has no idea she almost took it out she almost really changed everything what what it was your what happened to you what was it she was probably driving with two feet she probably was technical term was uh you know bruise to the spinal cord and stenosis of the neck which is like a narrowing

of the spinal column so over time just doing what we do right like the spinal column starts to narrow narrow narrow and then if you take the right hit, now that cord hits that column. It's a lot closer. There's not as much space as a normal person. So that's kind of what happened. I got lucky as hell. Can it get better or no? I think most doctors have said that bruise is going to be there forever.

So just stay away from that. Yeah. When that happened, was that the first time you ever dealt with any kind of neck issue? Don't try me. So in 2013 with the Ravens, actually playing the Bengals in Baltimore, downhill, running a belly, downhill collision with Vontaze Burfecht, and kind of had

something similar. It wasn't as long. It wasn't as drastic and just kind of shut down, neck down for not as long of a period. This one scared the shit out of me because this one was like 35, 40 seconds long. I'm happy you're okay. Thanks, guys. I'm happy you're hitting

mitts in some guy's basement these days. Hell yeah. I'm going to let them know. Do they know about your neck? They know. Yeah, everybody knows. Trust me, there's nothing coming back. It's just all – honestly, by the end of it, I look like the most out-of-shape person by the end of it.

It's impossible. Those workouts are impossible. Did you see me at SummerSlam, pal? I look like the most out-of-shape person in a lot of situations. Go ahead, Boston Connor. Yeah, Coach. For offensive linemen and people that might think, you know, you're just going to show up and just block whoever's in front of you,

how hard is it to learn a new scheme? I mean, you just mentioned putting in a whole new set when you're playing Aaron Donald. But for a team like the Patriots where maybe, you know, they're changing their entire offense, how hard is it to change your terminology and to learn a completely different offense versus the year before? Yeah, that's a great question. I think for people that say this, especially when you're going to a new scheme,

something where you've really never been in before, terminology's different, guys that have been there forever, now they've got little code word lingos. It takes some time. It takes some time even if you have been there and haven't been working with the same guys, right? If you're the backup guard, now all of a sudden you're thrown into the starting lineup. Well, the left guard and the left tackle might have a completely

different language. They might have their own language of communicating. The left guard and the center had their own. Now you come in and all you know is what you've been taught by the book. And they've kind of created everything evolves into its own little world, right? So it's such a different world when you get thrown into a situation, you're mid August or late August, you get thrown into a new team. First,'ve got to learn the playbook and learn the playbook. Now on top of that, now you've got to learn the little things that, you know, the center comes up with or the left tackle comes up with,

the different communication. So to that point, then beyond that, you've got to learn how that center wants you to step. You've got to learn how that left tackle wants you to step for your deuce blocks or whatever it may be. It could take a long time. And so anybody that thinks it's as easy as just like, oh, these guys just run into fucking people, not right.

Well, that's because all you offensive linemen judge and shame other offensive linemen who try to talk about what you guys do. That's your own fucking fault. Shame. Who's doing that? For the history of time. Everybody forever. They're just judging other offensive linemen?

Well, yeah, because if offensive linemen, it's like the Navy SEALs. If the Navy SEALs come out and tell stories about what they did, all the other Navy SEALs are like, that ain't what we do. Offensive linemen, we ain't talking. What are you? People get fined for being on camera.

It's like, well, I think the world deserves to know a little bit more about the offensive lin well, I think the world deserves to know a little bit more about the offensive line play. Yeah, I think so. I think the world needs to know a little bit more about the offensive line play. And since we do believe that, and we stand firmly in that belief, we'd like to make an announcement. Ooh.

This upcoming NFL season, A.Q. Shipley will be live in studio once a week. Yeah! Let's go! Let's go! Hey, listen, I don't know if you... Fired up. Hey, I hope you survive your little fight clubs.

You know, I hope you get a chance to do that. It'll be great to have you in the Thunderdome. I can't wait to hear your brain spill onto film and spill into the conversation. It's good for all offensive linemen when an offensive lineman starts speaking for them. I think I got a chance to do that for punters and kickers. You, Stink, many others who are TJ Lang, incredible offensive lineman personalities.

We're lucky to have. We can't wait to see you, pal. Fired up, boys. I can't wait to shine the light on the big boys up front and give them the due credit that they all deserve. That's right. We'll bring some tie pads, too, for you. Goddamn right.

Get a couple of these. Show us the ropes. Yeah, bring some tie pads too for you. Goddamn right. Show us the ropes. Do a couple kicks like this. Have a great day. Have a great afternoon. Stay away from car crashes. We'll see you this fall, pal. Appreciate you, boys. Ladies and gentlemen, MMA fighter, A.K. Shepard. Thank you! I asked him, you know, I'm like, hey,

want to make the announcement today or whatever? He's like, sure, sounds good. I got MMA practice still. I laughed so hard. I could not take it serious. And I did a lot of follow-up off air of what it was. It sounds like a great thing. He's enjoying it.

It's going to give him a routine. With some high-level guys, it sounds like, too, right? A routine, a schedule. I think he's learning a lot. The locker room. Yeah, this is perfect for what a retired player needs. I wish it was in more places. Now, he should be telling these people, though, hey,

be careful. I'm going to get out of here. I'm going to hit the road. Detroit. Detroit Rock City. Hell yeah. Jesus. So where is it there? Where do they play basketball? That's a great question. Little Caesars Arena, I assume. Presented by Rocket Mortgage.

Not Papa John's Arena. No. They had to get rid of that. Is that what it was? No way. It was always Little Caesars. It's a pizza. Is that what they said?

Pizza, pizza. Piece of pizza. You got it first up. It's a pizza. It's a pizza, I guess. What's your problem? It stinks. Little Caesars? Yeah, it's trash. Nick i guess come on what's your problem it stinks a little smaller yeah it's trash nick there's no bad there is bad oh you didn't have the pizza that the colts gave us at the sweet last week there is bad pizza there is i don't

know bad pizza is still better than no average other stuff nope this pizza we got there i mean it is i mean if they put a bunch of toppings on it maybe the cheese still look grated yeah it was great melt oh what was it like a fancy like a fancy flat no no opposite nope it was using somebody else's box too I think they're running a little uh well well liquor into uh you know Patron bottle yeah Papa John's threw this pizza out and the Colts said, okay, we'll use it for our sweets. Thank God those wings were so delicious that they saw me eating.

If I was to rely on that pizza we got at halftime, I think we would all starve. I'm not sure there's a single sweet that eats a single... There's not a person in any of those sweets that eats more than one slice. Are we running it back with that pizza? Yeah, I ordered it again. This is like downsize me when i downsizing downsizing

downsizing supersize me i didn't think that movie could be as bad as it was so i watched it again three hours watch it again no way this movie sucks this bad i must got a misread on it it did sure we're doing that with the pizza Okay We must have got a bad pizza Yeah, there's a couple things that were bad in that suite What else? What are you talking about? Connor's a Patriots fan We gotta remember that

Going into the Colts suites There was an 8-year-old apple rind Inside one of the cup holders Okay That's what else That was honestly impressive Yeah I think somebody, what?

Working on the field Probably walked by, dropped that thing in there. Someone was constructing the goddamn stadium. Downsized me. Downsizing. Downsizing. It's with Matt Damon.

It is awful. I don't think I've heard of that. Okay. Well, there's a reason. Yeah. I watched it because I like Matt Damon. Sure. Martian. Come on. Is this part of the crypto commercial? Well, as they a reason. I watched it because I like Matt Damon. The Martian.

Is this part of the crypto commercial? Well, as they've been saying forever, fortune favors the smarts. The brave. Whatever the fuck he said, yeah. That's not what they said, Matt. That's not the term. Or the expression.

By the way, how's crypto doing? People are getting sued, man. Well, the NFL is launching NFTs today. They are. Genius. I saw them marketing that last night. expression and by the way how's crypto doing people are getting sued man well the nfl is launching nfts today they are genius i saw them marketing that last night pat mahomes right and obj i looked so i looked at my wife during i'm like i didn't know these were still a thing these are still a thing and if these still a thing are they who know no they're not uh marks like bill i assume have bought all these today so bill those board apes i mean some that were sold for 50k 100k are down to like five grand bill bill get out of coding dude yeah for

real because the nfl was doing i saw him like well last night they've been building it for a while so they couldn't it probably as they were in the process like oh this is not good roll it out fucking roll it we spent way too much time on this yeah nft still a thing or no like like the nfl thing is that are you is that gonna you think last yeah the nfl all day and then the nba top shot are still going because people see you know there's new stuff coming out and there's limited amounts uh i think like the art world and nfts is really cooled off i mean nfts in general have really like the value of them has really dived down but there's still like a market for the nfl all day and the NBA top shelf. Is it going to go back up eventually, though? Like a stock or what?

I mean, people assume so, but there's people who say against it, too. Bill, you have a quota. Nope. You have a bag of $250,000. Go buy all these NFL things. Just like the Zion, though. Zion did go down.

Our Zion moment. But, you know, hey, great season coming. Great season coming. Yeah, and that was because of Zion, not because of the card. No, it was because of the Pelicans. They wouldn't fucking put him in a goddamn game. True. But because he wasn't playing. If he comes back, has a great year, which he should, all signs are pointing to that.

Who's buying him? Me? Nobody. Already got a max deal, right? It feels, yeah. Wow, with incentives. It was the weirdest max deal of all time. Yeah.

Who's buying these? And what's it look like when you buy it? What does it look like on your phone? So whenever you buy it, you buy it. Like Gary Vee's buying all these today. Well, he's making his own. You buy a pack, and it comes with how many ever randomized cards. And you have a certain chance of getting the legendary ones that are more valuable.

Who says they're more valuable, though? So there's only like five of them printed, as opposed to 300 of them can i not just screenshot it no because then you don't you don't have the ability to sell it because you don't own the rights to that number four oh so there's like there's like a uh like a code or something like a serial there's a serial number you know how ultimate team works at all with like the video games because in video games absolutely not so in video games an ultimate team which is where you build your own team you buy packs of cards and in those cards sometimes you get like a gold value player so like you have an ultimate team player so does aj but you can use that player to play the game how'd they put me in there i believe you have one no i

do not aj definitely does aj last year i remember people tweeting this it's like the gold version of aj so his best year all of his best stats that It's like the gold version of AJ. So his best year, all of his best stats. That's like what the gold version of a Topshop card is because there's only like four or five. So who controls who starts the NFTs then? Like the NFL NFTs. The NFL owns them right now? Does the AJ Ultimate Team guy play? Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Do these NFTs play? Like is Brett Favre for $41,000 going out and slinging a touchdown in your house? There is like fantasy leagues that you play with your card. So you have a Joe Burrow moment, you get Joe Burrow in that fantasy league. Okay. Are we like Brian Gumbel when he said, what is this thing called the internet?

Is that what we're doing here? Yes. No. Yes, that is us, AJ. If for $41,000 Brett Favre will fucking come and throw me a touchdown in my backyard, I will bid on that son of a bitch every day of the week. $41,000 ain Brett Favre will fucking come and throw me a touchdown in my backyard. I will bid on that son of a bitch every day of the week. $41,000 ain't going to get it done.

That's where it's at right now. That thing's going up to $100,000. Okay, I'll do $100,000. For Brett in Wranglers, come toss you a fucking football? No, I want him in full pads. Two hours. Hey, Bill. Is Bill still there?

Yes, sir. What about, do people lose these like they do Bitcoin or whatever and you can never get them again? There are fishing scams out there to where you click a link, it signs them into your account, and they just drain that shit. All right. Weapons. It's all going to work out. NFTs matter.

Let's remember that. They do. They will. The future of trading cards. Absolutely. Gary Vee's all in on them, so if Gary's in on them, he's ahead of the game, I'm going to be in on them. Tabidou's in on them.

Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah, that's why he almost didn't. Cave on. There's a Dougie Mills for $37. Is Ty going to a VCon next year? That's it. Get Dougie Mills. We would like Dougie Mills. Get Dougie Mills. What does this do? Do we get into anything because we buy this or we just have this on somewhere? That stuff's

like the metaverse. I don't think it's anything like that. No. This is just like, hey, you got a futuristic playing card that might be worth a lot of money someday like the old playing cards. We're the worst. All cards. We're the worst. All right. We are the worst. We're an internet football show.

Yeah. And internet football things happened, and we have no idea what it is. Well, that's for the internet football, Mark. So, you know, we're more about the game. You're right. That's why I can't suspend Aaron Donald. It's fucking practice. Bingo. That's right.

And also, there is now photos surfacing of somebody for the Cincinnati Bengals wielding a Rams helmet as well. So remember all you Bengals fans are showing up in my mentions. Let's keep that same energy. Let's keep that same energy. Get rid of that offensive line you guys just brought in. Bingo. Or you just say, it's a joint practice.

It's a training camp. Boys are going to fight. That's right. That's just going to happen. Let's move on. All right, I'm out of here. See you guys. Have an incredible weekend of preseason football.

AJ, you're the best. Take them home. Let's do a giveaway on the other side of this. Hell yeah. Let's do a good giveaway. You got it. All right, see you guys all. Goodbye.

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