The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 729 - Michael Lombardi, Darius Butler In Studio, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: August 30, 2022

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys are joined in studio by 9 year NFL veteran at Defensive Back, host of the Man-To-Man podcast, Darius Butler to chat about teams making their final cuts, which guys they're surprised got cut and where they could wind up, and everything else happening in the NFL. Joining the progrum to chat about Jimmy G ultimately staying with the 49ers, what that means for Trey Lance moving forward, and his outlook on the entire 2022 NFL season is former NFL General Manager, host of The GM Shuffle, author of The Daily Coach, Super Bowl Champion, and friend of the progrum, Michael Lombardi (19:23-52:19). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people. It is wow. There's a litany of brand new free agents around the NFL Tuesday, August 30th. This show begins now. Football is in full force today and it's not on the field. No, no. It's all the shit happening off the field. And obviously there was a massive restructuring of a contract in San Francisco that will carry a lot of the conversation here early. But today is a massive day for all the teams of the NFL as they make their final cuts on who's going to make the squad. Does that mean it's final, final as of today? No. There are some people that are going to be on rosters today about 5 p.m.

because 4 p.m. is kind of time. They're going to be calling their family, calling their friends. They're going to go to bed tonight. I'm a fucking NFL player. Then two days from now, They're going to be calling their family, calling their friends. They're going to go to bed tonight. I'm a fucking NFL player. Then two days from now, they're going to walk into lunch at the facility. Hey, I was calling, take some chicken salad, do that whole thing.

They're going to sit down and eat that food. That's going to be their last fucking meal in that building. The rosters will continually be fluid right now, but we will get a first glimpse at who some brand new free agents that are going to be on the move today. That should be a lot of fun for teams all around the NFL because, you know, there's

some big names getting released right now. There's some notables. There's a lot of people we haven't heard of, but there's some dreams coming true, some new dreams probably starting, and maybe some insurance salesmen finding their way back home. The boys are here at the talk table at Ty Schmidt at Boston Corner. Obviously, one half of the hammer. Done! Cowboys Tone Diggs is here. And joining us live in studio, host of the Man to Man podcast, Darius Butler.

Hey, D-Butt! D-Butt, let's get this out of the way right now. Right now? Right now. This upcoming season is going to have a lot of things that we have not had in the past. That's right. Because what once started as a show in a haunted basement, you remember it was haunted,

has now grown into a show that is about to move into a brand new studio, a brand new home, a brand new facility. The studio is very nice. Very expensive, very nice. Hell yeah. A lot of money and hard work was put into it to make it better. A negotiation happened with NFL Films so that we can get footage rights this season.

So we can maybe do the same things as the people that we see on network television. That's right. And hopefully celebrate the game in a bigger way. In a way that hasn't happened in the past. Obviously, Sirius XM contract comes to an end. We do not continue there. We appreciate everybody at SiriusXM contract comes to an end. We do not continue there. We appreciate everybody at Sirius. Nothing but a how you doing, keep it moving.

Thank you so much for the opportunity. Thank you, Sirius. Thank you, Sirius. But with that being said, new studio, focusing full-time on the video representation of this particular show, getting footage rights, getting a little bit of a bank from multiple companies and having the ability to grow and make things

better hopefully around here. We have a lot of people that are going to be coming through the office to break down film and bring an energy to our show on a weekly basis that's going to make us better, make the show better, and hopefully make this season the greatest season that we or anybody has ever had.

Adding to that list, Darius Butler will be in the studio every single Wednesday and Thursday. This up first. Wednesday will be a big film day for D-Butt, the breakdown film. So he'll probably come in each hour, have his own segment.

Thursday, he'll just be joining us on stage for the entire show. D-Butt, you fit this show perfectly. You've always got the show. You've always made time for this show. You're a great teammate. You're becoming an even better media personality. We appreciate the hell out of you.

We can't wait for this show. Yeah, D-Buck! I appreciate you, Pat. It's going to be a lot of fucking fun this year. Can't wait, man. I think so. Honestly, I believe it is. The energy in, you know, anytime anybody's in the studio, the energy's awesome.

Yeah. Not just in here while we're live, but also out there, new conversations, new takes, new everything. So with you being live every single week, Wednesday and Thursday, we can't wait for it. It's going to be a great middle of the week energy that's going to fly in from South Florida. Ooh, it's cold. A lot of that. A lot of that shit. Oh, yeah.

You remember we go down to warm weather climates. This motherfucker's got a hoodie on. Sweatpants. Sweatpants. Sweatpants. Ridiculous. He's got Indianapolis winter staring him right in the fucking face again. And I'm excited to watch you kind of relive through that entire thing. It's going to be good, man.

I kind of miss winter a little bit. Do you? I've missed the last few years. So now once Thanksgiving hits, the weather actually changed. So it'll be fun. Oh, you also have a chance to show off fits. Absolutely. Oh.

It's a new fit. Yeah, yeah. Get your fit off. Put that shit. See? Deebo, we're pumped. We're thankful. Wow, we got some film today that we're going to break down with you.

You're going to showcase why Tyreek Hill is Tyreek Hill and how Tyreek Hill should be treated and have, should have been treated for his entire career. And some people get baptized by Tyreek Hill on a field in the middle of a preseason game, and it ends up everywhere because he is different. Speaking of different, we did not expect this Jimmy G situation to go the way it did. And although Ian Rappaport and many other media stooges were saying, there's change, Jimmy G remains on San Francisco 49ers, and people like myself and others that have maybe played in the game

or have been lucky enough to be in an NFL locker room have said on many occasions, that'd be weird. If you're trying to make this the Trey Lance regime, which they have been doing from the beginning. Remember, Shanahan's come out and said Trey Lance is our starter. George Kittle came on the show and was like, hey, Trey Lance is coming to tight end university. Love Jimmy G.

We've loved Jimmy G. But this is Trey Lance's team now. Trey Lance's team now. Everybody that's ever been in a locker room goes, well, if it's Trey Lance's team, they're doing the right thing. They kept Jimmy G away from the team. He wasn't in meetings. Wasn't in a locker room. Was just kind of doing his own thing.

Biding his time so that he could not have any sway over the locker room that he was once the leader of. So much so that they went to the Super Bowl and the NFC Championship just last year. So we always said that if Trey was to struggle or Trey is the starter, it's going to get fucking loud, not only from the fans, if Jimmy G's there, but also in the locker room. There's a lot of guys that aren't ready to just rebuild and project for the future

because who knows how long your career is going to be. If Trey Lance has a game like he had just the other night in preseason where those balls are ugly, he was missing targets, it's going to be hard for George Kittle, who's what? One of the greatest teammates of all time? Not to at least let a thought sink into his mind. There's a guy right fucking there that is ready to go that has led us to the promised land before.

We didn't win, but he has led us to the promised land, and we're going through this. We didn't know how that would work. We told Ian Rappaport as such yesterday after we went off the air. Jimmy G has agreed to a restructure of his contract with the San Francisco 49ers. Six and a half million dollars guaranteed, $500,000 in roster bonuses, which equates to $27,777 per week if he's on the roster, which we shall assume he will be, and another $9 million in playing incentives, which we can assume the amount of time he's on the field, if he a starter or not if they're good or not where they go to playoffs wild-card

weekend and if he makes a Pro Bowl that's another nine million dollars so that's a total of potentially 16 million dollars in salary next year for Jimmy G if he starts and they probably win a Super Bowl it clears eighteen point six million dollars in cap space for the 49ers due to the signing bonus cash every cap let's move some shit around game that everybody's playing but now It clears $18.6 million in cap space for the 49ers due to the signing bonus cash ever cap. Let's move some shit around game that everybody's playing. But now that Jimmy G's back in the building. That's tough.

Darius Butler, who's been in the NFL locker room, you said the same thing I said from the beginning. And we were telling people they were wrong. They were not. I think Ian Rappaport from the beginning was like, there's a chance he's still on the team. We don't know how that'll work. Jimmy G's going to be the starter of this team at some point. Don't you think, D-Bud? I don't see any other option here.

I mean, I was coming into it ready to kind of look at Trey Lance's year. This year is almost like his junior year in college because he hasn't played a lot of football. And we saw, you know, I don't want to overreact from preseason, but it didn't look like he was ready, comfortable in that offense. And like you said, this is a team that is built outside the quarterback for a championship. They were literally just in the NFC Championship.

Jimmy G has won there consistently with a lot of guys that are in the locker room still. Yeah, 15 guys, I think, still from the Super Bowl team. Yep. It's tough. That's a lot of motherfuckers. Sure. And it's not like he's going to be away now.

Like, he'll be practicing, I'm assuming. So, he'll be probably the scout team quarterback. So, if he goes out there just dotting up the starters every week and then Trey Lance goes out and struggles for a couple weeks how is that managed in the locker room how's that handled now you know we've been in a bunch of locker rooms haven't been in San Fran's locker room so I'm not going to speak for them but it would be tough it would be tough it would be tough to watch that and it's tough for Trey man natural human instinct it is definitely tough for Trey mentally to get through it, but natural human instinct.

If you're being directly hurt in a situation and you think we've had the success with this, it's hard not to just do that. Now, I know that everybody says it's a team and you just do what you're told and everything, and I get that, but there's actual humans in there, not Madden video game characters in there. This isn't fantasy football. These people actually have to interact every single day.

So it's Trey Lance's team they're saying, $16 million of salary potential for Jimmy G if he plays and they win. I just don't know how it works out. I honestly have no idea. Let's assume they got the right leadership, right? They can handle it. Yeah, best case scenario, they can handle it. They got paid the big bucks for a reason, Lynch and Shanahan.

So they know this team better than we do. Now, they're not in their locker room. The players obviously got to handle that. But it's one thing to have external pressure for the quarterback, for a young quarterback like Trey. But like you said, when it's internal in that locker room, it's like. We're just telling you reality. Yeah, this is real shit.

Now, if Jimmy G's gone, it's like this is your like that's our guy we got to live with you know the ups and downs but if he's there and you're seeing him every day it's just a different dynamic but like you said let's hope they figure it out yeah because it's turning of the page whenever it's like hey jimmy's not here anymore it's trey lance so although there is still a thought probably from the fans coaches in that building and players in that building like uh we'd be much better off if jimmy was our quarterback this year next year like if trey was the only quarterback on the roster nate sudfeld i think was number two and jimmy was not on the roster because they either cut him and jimmy only got two million bucks i think if they

were to cut him as of today uh that's all he would get so a lot of people are saying why do you take such a pay cut he's a bad businessman i don't know he going to get $2 million. Always going to get paid somewhere else when salary caps are already basically at their max. I think this is actually a pretty good deal for Jimmy G to get back into a good team that's in contention. And they wouldn't have done this if they didn't think that he was potentially going to play or if they were going to trade him. If this was just going to become an easier trading tool, we'll talk to Michael Lombardi in about seven minutes, who obviously has a lot of knowledge on this situation and with the NFL.

Excited to hear his thoughts. But it's going to be natural, I think, just if he struggles at all, which all young quarterbacks are going to do anyways. But if he struggles with the things that Jimmy's good at, like throwing and deciphering what is supposed to happen, leadership, right? Isn't Jimmy Nunes like a great leader?

Everybody fucking loves him in there. It's just like if Trey struggles with any of the things that Jimmy's great at, natural human reaction. I don't give a fuck how old you are, how much you're paid, what you do for a living. Natural reaction is just like, what the fuck are we doing here? Why don't we just fucking go to that? We only got 15 games left. We only got 10 games left. We only got nine games left. If we win them don't we just fucking go to that we only got 15 games we only got 10 games left we only got nine games left if we win them all we can

still go and do what we got to do let's assume trey figures it out shanahan gets an offense where train lance is going to thrive and this will be a non-starter non-issue but god damn it's going to get loud if there's any stumbles at all you guys talked about it from the locker room side but also the fan side they watched him go take, take him to the Super Bowl. They watched him take him to the NFC Championship last year. I mean, any sort of struggle from Trey, especially because he's only... Don't want to be negative! We don't like being negative.

It's brand new free agent day. It's not players getting cut. That's right. Any sort of struggle, especially because he's only in his second year. It's like, and they've seen guys like Rodgers sit for three years, and other guys sit for three years, and stuff like that. Like, hey, Jimmy's going to be, he's going Like, hey, Jimmy's going to be – now he's definitely going to be free agent after this year. They set his contract up where he's going to be free agent after this year.

There's probably a lot of 49ers fans that are saying start Jimmy and let Trey sit for another year because that would benefit probably the team as a whole, not only this year, but going forward. You think fans are saying that? What do you think some of these coaches on defense say? Oh, yeah. Linebacker coach, defensive end coach who's got dogs. They got a team that can go at the quarterback place.

They're having conversations with each other around Jimmy G can fucking complete some of these. Trey Lance is super talented. But, you know, once again, I expect him to have some struggles early. Everybody. You look at all the quarterbacks from last year. I mean, Mac Jones had a pretty good year as a rookie. All the other guys, most of them, they stunk. You know, Trevor Lawrence stunk.

Zach Wilson stunk. Justin Fields, like all these guys. Davis Mills had a solid year, so you expect him to struggle early, but when you've traded all those assets

and you have a team, once you have Bosa, one of the best pass rushers, one of your best left tackles, like you got players. Kittle. Debo. Like you got players

all around that roster that can compete. And you can't take these years for granted as a player. Like you went to Super Bowl your rookie year. Yeah, never. Two years later, we're completely defeated. That's how it is in this league. Whoops. Let's be positive, though.

What's your problem? I mean, hey, that happens when you lose a paint man in all time. Great. I understand. Well, we had him on the roster still at that particular point. But he had a bunch of wires coming out of his fucking neck day two training camp. Remember? Manning all-time great. I understand. Well, we had him on the roster still at that particular point. True, true. But he had a bunch of wires coming out of his fucking neck day two training camp, remember?

Yeah, and you turn it around very fast with Andrew Luck. It's not like he had 5, 10, 15 years of bad football. You're right. But with the Niners, I think the first three games are – And then balls were deflated. Yes, exactly. Anyways, go on. And then that got kind of blown up.

And then Brady beat the best defense of all time. Whatever. That's in the past. Who cares what happened? Of course. With the Niners, though, can Jimmy G just turn it off? Because obviously he can't be the same leader, captain. Well, he does, doesn't he?

They say they can't get a hold of him for months at a time. Sure, sure. In the offseason. Which is absolutely fine. Jimmy G's like, all right. Yeah, but when they're coming out, it's Trent Williams, Debo, and Jimmy G. Like, they're kind of leading the pack out there. Like, does he turn that off?

Does he have to become a guy? You're talking about with the boom box. With the boom box, doing the whole entire thing. In the first three games, the Niners are, like, very gettable. But up until the bye week, it's not, you know, the easiest schedule. Ty, let's say you're a fan of the Niners. What did this move tell you, you think? Well, I would just, like, don't you think that it's probably going to end up

Jimmy G's not going to start the year, but it'll probably end up morphing into what it was last year unless they start 6-0 or whatever where they have Trey Lance packages. Because I can't remember, it might have been Giorgio Schultz yesterday who was talking about the offense and how Shanahan wants

to dumb everything down for him. Why are you putting the training – Well, right. Yeah, exactly. But why are you putting – What? What were you saying exactly too? I didn't say anything.

Sometimes I think Schultz, he comes on here and just, you know, blows smoke up our asses. No! Hey, that's neither here nor there. Schultz? Yeah. Are you telling Giorno that right now? He's going to see this.

I hope he does. Hey, I love you, Giorno, but sometimes I think you come on here and kind of just say whatever the hell you want, which I respect and I appreciate. I really do. Yesterday was a smack in the mouth to Schultz. It was. Everything he was saying got debunked like 10 minutes after he got off the show.

But if that is the case and you're going to start him and you have Jimmy G still, your offense just has training wheels on it. This is a team that's ready to go. Why would you do that? So it would make more sense that either they start him and somehow he picks things up really quick and they're great, or you have packages for him and you do exactly what you did last year.

Jimmy G plays. Hopefully he can stay healthy. If he doesn't, Trey Lance maybe has you know a couple more games in the middle of the season but it just makes no sense to start a guy when you have a team that's ready to go to a super bowl and the implication is that like oh we're gonna have to basically minimize what we do on offense tenfold because this guy's not ready yeah they can't they can't do that you can't minimize that's the reason you're going with him, like to improve on that offense. He's already a quarterback-friendly offense, you know, quick passing game,

kind of be protective with the ball. Trey Lance, he should take the training wheels off essentially. But, you know, hey, maybe they got it figured out better than we do. And Trey Lance, you know, we heard about his character, how smart he was. So maybe, maybe. Matt Ryan said it took him a few years to kind of catch up to the speed of the game and the speed of the receivers and all those things. So he has a good offense around him, you know, putting a positive spin on it.

Maybe they're right about Trey and he picks it up faster than we all expect. Yeah, I mean, throwing a spiral will help. There's a lot of duck throwers in the history, but it feels like he's not really comfortable or confident throwing a lot of the balls. Whenever he's just balling and we see those highlights from camp, it's like you take all the thinking out of it. I think he can deliver a ball. But in the NFL, when you've got a ba-da-da-boom and hit it,

especially in that offense, right, because a lot of slants, a lot of quick stuff. I wonder if Trey Lance is thinking to himself, too, like I don't know if this is necessarily the best fit for me right now. Trey's so young, hasn't won a goddamn game. He hasn't won a game. They play at Chicago. That's a win. You know?

Yeah, exactly. Zito, you didn't deserve that. Yeah, he's our quarterback. I only said that. Zito, we got a quarterback. Justin Fields is our quarterback. Big said there's a lot of positive coming out of the Chicago Bears. Brad Biggs yesterday.

So they're at Chicago, at home against Seattle, at Denver. That's going to be tough. Then LA, then the Panthers, then the Falcons. So I mean, first six games, that's an easy three and three. You'd assume four and two maybe. It's after that that it kind of turns. And then you got Kansas City, Rams, Bye,

Chargers, Cardinals, Saints, Dolphins, Bucs, Seahawks. Yeah, but then at the end there, they got the commander. No, Raiders are a big problem this year. And then the Cardinals hopefully are able to piece it all together for the good sake of not only the bird gang out there in Arizona, but for the entire NFL. Hopefully Kyler and the boys are hot all the time this upcoming season.

So the Niners early have a chance to figure it out. If you're going to have Trey Lance go through some stumbles and bumbles, you would hope that even if he can't do shit, you'd come out of the first six 3-3. You would hope that your team would be able to at least do that. But if you're

0-2 there, and you've got Jimmy sitting on the team, are you going to continue to be patient with Trey Lance when you've got Jimmy sitting right there who's been there? And it's like, that's a tough decision to make in the season when you're staring down all the stats that tell you, well, you go 0-3, you go 1-3. The percentage you're making in the playoffs is whatever it is,

even though 17 games would be a little different. Yeah. X factor there. Denominator, if you will. Right. Exactly. Shout out to Hoagie. Shout out to Hoagie. Child to hoagie.

But, like, that is a situation that I think is going to be difficult to manage in-house. I think it's going to be difficult to manage. The only way it doesn't get uncomfortable is if Trey Lance comes out and fucking balls. But, I mean, even for this, like, the last three months it's been Jimmy G. There's no chance he's there. Like, what does this deal that yesterday that happened with Jimmy G say to Trey Lance about what the coaches think about him? Like, okay, now after this entire training camp where Jimmy's on a different field, not even wearing pads, practicing without any of the team,

he's not over there all of a sudden right before, you know, the real football is about to kick off. They're like, actually, we're going to bring Jimmy back because what we've seen from you, Trey Lance, we're not as confident as we thought we would be. And I think I was going to say that earlier before Squirrel happened, but Jimmy's way too – or Trey's way too young for them to ask or give a fuck about his opinion, right?

Yeah, for sure. I mean, he's only played 11 games in college. He hasn't played an NFL game. That's what, in my head, I was trying to think of the scenario where Shanahan goes. Yeah. Hey, Trey, do you care? No, Shanahan doesn't give a fuck if Trey cares.

So how does that whole thing work? I don't know. Joining us now is maybe a man that might have more answers. We have missed the hell out of this guy. He's the host of the GM Shuffle podcast, one of the authors of the Daily Coach newsletter, which is fantastic and motivating and inspiring every single day. Obviously a Super Bowl champion, former advisor and consultant for the Patriots.

He's been hooked and linked to literally every program in the NFL. Ladies and gentlemen, the man who has forgot more about football than you've ever learned, Michael Embargo. Good to be here, Pat. It's good to be back. Good to be back with you. Paisan, you look good. Thank you, my man.

Yeah, it's called not eating. That's the best thing you can do. As Francis Ford Coppola said, he never a 350 pound 85 year old so I took that advice did you watch the offer huh did you watch the offer I did I watched it I read the book take the gun leave the cannoli which it's not based on but it's similar it's great it just shows you the power of if you have a belief in what you're doing and know what you're doing regardless of what the outside counsel and this fits perfectly into the 49er conversation. That's why I did it.

The offer does. I know it's an unbelievable segue, but let's do it. Kyle Shanahan, when he's in Cabo, he's down there. Thought he was going to get involved in the Matt Stafford trade. It didn't happen. Was watching tape. He fell in love with Mac Jones. He wants to trade for Mac Jones. They

make the deal to get the three. And then, like in the offer, all these other people who really don't know, because remember what Bill Walsh said, only a few can evaluate the quarterback and only fewer can coach him. And Kyle's one of those few, and so is his father. He goes back and now he's got resistance within his own building. Remember a year earlier, Kyle wanted to sign Tom Brady, and the resistance factor within the building said, no, no, no, no, we're not doing that. I wrote about that in the athletic. Now, so Kyle gets back.

Once Mac Jones, and all of a sudden the Twitter momentum, you can't take Mac Jones there. He's not good enough. You can't hire Al Pacino as Michael Corleone. It's too short. You can't do this. You can't do that, right? And he gets worn down. Much like, and I said this to him, there was a time in San Francisco when Bill Walsh called

the meeting and he said to everybody in the room, Mike Holmgren, Denny Green, Bob McKittrick, all the great coaches said, I have a chance to trade for Steve Young. Are you guys interested? Raise your hand. No one raised their hand. He walked out of the room, told me to go pick him up at the airport. When it comes to these decisions, Kyle knew, but then he went with Lance. He got talked into Lance.

Everybody will deny it. I understand they all deny it. Certain people know. And now I think this is the residual effect of that. Trey Lance isn't ready to play. He may be great a year from now. He may be great two years from now. He's not ready to play. And on that plane ride back from Houston,

Kyle understood that and said, we've got to do something about this. Okay, so you said a lot there, Lombo, and it's great to fucking have you. You just tied together the making of The Godfather and then the San Francisco 49ers current predicament in a fashion that nobody else

who ever speaks into a microphone could ever do. Paisan, grazie for that. Grazie for doing that. Now, let's move on. You said a lot here. Kyle Shanahan wanted Tom Brady. He was talked out of that

a couple years ago. You said you wrote about that in The Athletic. Did I miss that? Because I had heard that that never really amounted to anything. Is that true or not true?

I thought Kyle Shanahan didn't want Tom in the building that's not the case no I think Kyle did I think I think that look they just come off the Super Bowl and in fairness to them they're sitting there saying hey you know why would we trade out a quarterback who's young for a quarterback who's old we just want a Super Bowl I mean we're just 10 minutes away from winning a Super Bowl. I mean, we were just 10 minutes away from winning a Super Bowl, I should say. And then obviously the Raiders were involved too. I mean, Tom's hometown is California. And I think that never could have mount any steam within the 49ers building. I think that's what happened. Okay. Let's get rid of Jimmy. Momentum was started back then. Okay. So then they move up to three. You're saying now everybody will deny this, you're saying, so obviously you're going to have a lot of people say,

what does Lombo know? What does Lombo know? Jason Kelsey got drunk in a Super Bowl thing and buried Lombo. What does Lombo know? Lombo knows a lot of motherfuckers. How long have you been around the NFL, Lombo? You know, I think it's going on 38 years. Yeah.

That's right. Lombo doesn't know, I think it's going on 40, 38 years. Yeah. Yeah. Lombo doesn't know shit, obviously. Three, almost four decades in the NFL connected there. You think that when they want the three, 100% going to be Mac Jones. Why do you think that? I think Kyle wanted Mac Jones. I think his father also, who's a great quarterback evaluator, thought Mac Jones was the perfect fit for what he did. And watch Mac Jones play. And tell me Mac Jones wouldn't be perfect for the Kyle Shanahan offense. I mean, he's got some Matt Schaub qualities to him. He's got some Kirk Cousins qualities to him.

He's got all the things that Kyle wants. And yet, I think in the building, they felt like, and Twitter felt like, there's a lot of experts on Twitter that know scouting. They understand it. They have Trey Lance is going to be the MVP in the league too. Just let's put that out there. And so they all feel like he had an opportunity to, you know, it was not enough value to take Trey Lance, to take Mac Jones a three. Look, that picture of Mac Jones smoking a cigar after this win, that destroyed a lot of people's value of them. It really painted a poor picture of them.

So I know that's what happened. They deny it. They'll do. You know, I've had private texts from people saying, you're right, I can't share that, but that's fine. I don't care. Look, when you've been yelled at by Al Davis, when you've been called every name in the book by Al Davis,

you think I care? No. Longbow, seriously, What do you mean? This guy gives TED Talks. You think he cares? Come on. About what somebody's saying on Twitter. Now let's move to the Jimmy G move.

So they move up to get Trey Lance, and Shanahan knows, you think, immediately that he's not the right guy, or do you think Shanahan came to the understanding, we'll keep Jimmy G for this one year so Trey Lance can continue to grow? Now with what they've seen, you think, do you think Shanahan says we need another year of growth and you think Jimmy will be the starter inevitably? Or how do you think they handle the whole situation going forward?

I think they've got to be delicate. So here's what I think they have to do. They know they have to go to Chicago. So let's put things in perspective. They play the Houston Texans, the same defense that Matt Iberflues is running in Chicago in the opening game is in Houston, right? So it's fairly simplistic. It's zone drops. It's read same defense that Matt Iberflues is running in Chicago in the opening game is in Houston, right? So it's fairly simplistic.

It's zone drops. It's read the quarterback. It's not a heart. He goes down to Houston, doesn't play well. Kyle flies back and probably has a realization. Look, the offense that I have to run with Trey Lance is going to be a single wing type offense. It's going to be a lot of quarterback runs, easy throws, all that stuff. And if we do this, he may be very good at doing that, but he also could get injured because he's

going to have to run a lot. It's going to be the RG3 offense when they were together in Washington with his dad. He's going to have to run. And so if he runs and we get hurt, is Nate Sutton good enough to play? Is Brock Purdy good enough to come in? We are a Super Bowl-caliber team. We really are. We've got a defensive front that's really good. We can play the line. We have everything we need. If we lose this quarterback because I have to run this system,

I think it hurts us. So I think he did the smart thing. They made the smart football decision. They'll eat crow on this. Who cares? You know, as Al Davis used to say, I'd rather be consistent. I'd rather be correct

than consistent. Like, they're doing the right thing. Make no mistake about it. Signing him back was right. Okay, so they bring Jimmy G in. They tell Jimmy he's going to be a backup quarterback, you think? And how does the locker room, how do they manage the locker room? And Lambeau, you know, you've been there at all levels. You have sons that are coaching currently that uh by the way got promoted

congrats thank you family we're proud of them both yeah but you know position guys position group guys let's say on the defensive side san francisco 49ers linebackers coach d lineman coach whenever they're eating food together watching film and they see another practice or another game where trey lance is missing slants and doing this they know hey Jimmy G's here let alone all the players all the players in that locker room that aren't thinking hey two-year project three-year project we got a team right fucking now I don't know if I'm gonna be on this team next year Trey Lance struggles at all it's gonna get fucking loud around the building isn't it how are they gonna manage that you think and do you think they've already broached that subject

with Trey and Jimmy and the team? Well, I think they probably have. Now, in that building, there was a time in that specific building when Bill Walsh benched Joe Montana and brought in Steve Young in a playoff game. And Steve Young against Minnesota. And Steve Young brought him back. Almost they didn't win that playoff game.

The next year, Bill was indecisive on who was the starter. He went back and forth. And about week 12 of that season, the locker room kind of got messed up, and Bill finally declared Montana the starter, and they won the Super Bowl. They beat Cincinnati. I think it's a delicate, delicate balance you've got to run. I think practice. I think you talk in games, but really when players go out to

the practice field, and you know this, Pat, when they don't feel a sense of confidence that the quarterback's running the plays against scout team effectively, they're going to go, wait a minute, what's going on here? Wait a minute, that's not right. You're not checking us into the right run. We need to be into this run, not that run. I think it's really complex. I think he's going to have to manage it. And I think Trey Lance is in a tough spot because he's got somebody looking over his shoulder look they didn't put those incentives in the contract okay they didn't put those incentives they didn't put the no trade clause they didn't put any of that stuff in there because he's just the backup like they didn't pay him this

because he's just a backup they're protecting themselves they're protecting their season which is what all good organizations should do I applaud him for Did you think any of the other Jimmy G shit was going to come to fruition? This feels like something that I just couldn't believe happening because of the drama behind the scenes that could potentially take place that I think distracts away from winning a championship. I think you need everybody in synergy and in the same page, but also you need a good fucking quarterback to win a championship. So you kind of got to balance all that. Is this how you saw the Jimmy G thing going?

He gets cut today by four o'clock. He's only making two million. I said on the Lombardi line on Beeson yesterday, I said that I thought he was going to be in Seattle, Pat. I really thought he was going to Seattle. Seattle wanted him. And San Francisco knew it. That's why there's been no trade.

I know Ian Rappaport reported this on your show, too. There's been really no interest in Jimmy G going back to March. In fact, Kyle was walking around the owners meeting asking other coaches, why aren't you interested in Jimmy? Well, he's coming off a shoulder surgery. One thing you don't want to do is mess with a quarterback after

a shoulder surgery. It's like an offensive lineman after back surgery. Those are difficult things to overcome. There was no trade market out there. I mean, Seattle was never interested. I mean, excuse me, Cleveland was never interested in them, you know, and Seattle was never interested in Baker Mayfield, but they were interested in Jimmy. And I think the 49ers, and I know that the 49ers were worried about cutting Jimmy and having him go to Seattle. Now, what they did was they made the best decision for them. And I think Jimmy made the best decision for him because if he would go to Seattle behind a very young offensive line, behind a young team that looks like they're kind of in a rebuilding,

he may not have the same level of play that he would have if he stays in San Francisco. Seems like it all worked out for the best. Jimmy G gets cut. He only gets $2 million today. Instead, now he's got at least $6.5 million guaranteed, another $500,000 if he's on the team all season, and then another $9 million in incentives that lead him up to $16 million. Probably not going to sign a $16 million deal anywhere right now

at this stage of the game. But how long will he have to play? How good will they have to be for him to hit those incentives? I guess it's all T, B, D. Trey Lance better start hitting some fucking slants. I mean, that is literally what's going to have to happen. That's the only way it doesn't become drama, right? If Trey just comes out and balls Lambeau?

Right. Well, it's always going to be drama because I think for Trey to come out and just ball, we're being presumptuous. I mean, it's going to be challenging for Trey. Look, the kid ball, we're being presumptuous. I mean, it's going to be challenging for Trey. Look, the kid didn't play in college. He didn't throw the ball. I mean, Kyle was quoted after the Houston game as saying, hey, he lacks experience, but this is what we have. I mean, that was his quote. He does lack. I mean, I am not here to kill Trey Lance. I'm saying to me, the more ready quarterback was Mac Jones. There is upside to Trey Lance. I don't see it as an MVP season this year.

I don't see all that conversation. I see him as a runner first, passer. So I think it's going to take some time. There's three more years on his contract, right? You still have three more years to develop him. Jimmy goes off. And look, the 49ers retain their ability to get a compensatory pick if they play him and they win. What's wrong with that? They didn't get an offer for a compensatory pick if they play them and they win. I guess. I mean, what's wrong with that?

They didn't get an offer for a third-round pick by anybody this year. So I guess if they would have won into the season and say, hey, this is going to be the same thing as last year, Trey's going to learn under Jimmy, they would have to pay him $20-some million. Now they only got to pay him like $16-some and probably get the same outcome. Business-wise, it might have made sense for San Francisco as well as Jimmy G because the situation that San Francisco 49ers cooked up of them having to move on from him. Wild scene here.

Yeah, scene. Tone, your question for Lombo? Lombo, I would love to get your thoughts on this because I know how you felt about MVP Mitch when he was with Nagy and the Bears organization. Now he's with the Steelers and Matt Canada, whatever. What do you think about the situation in Pittsburgh with Kenny and MVP Mitch? Is he going to even play all year?

Is Kenny going to come in? How do you feel about that? You're out on Matt Canada? This guy's only been coached for two years. We were out on him last year. I think Mike Tomlin has a pretty good handle on it. I think for where he is with his offensive line, I think Mitch is the perfect choice for him. He doesn't want to put Pickett in there. No, go on the road, play

Cincinnati, the Super Bowl team last year, crowd noise. One thing about the start of the season, the September 11th games are all playoff games because every coach, every player, every fan thinks their team's going to be really good. The energy is at the highest level. It's a playoff level energy. It really is. The game goes way faster. See, we can't duplicate the speed of the game in the preseason to the level of speed in the first quarter of a regular season game to the level of speed in the fourth quarter. Impossible. I think you take Trubisky, you let him go into Cincinnati, you understand what he's good at doing and what he's not. They are running a Matt Canada college type offense, which I think is ideal for Mitchell. and what he's not. They are running a Matt Canada college-type offense,

which I think is ideal for Mitchell. I think it's perfect. A lot of half rolls, read the field, let him use his athleticism, make some plays. I think they've got to rely on Najee Harris. They've got to rely on their skilled players. I think Mike's smart to do that. I think the worst thing you want to do is send Pickett out there against a very complicated scheme, have him make certain

mistakes, turn the ball over, and lose the game. I think Mike would probably wait until the right moment. Maybe it's week eight, maybe it's week four, maybe it's week ten. I don't know, but I think it's smart to do that. You know Mike Tomlin, Will? I'm a big fan of his work. I assume everybody is. No, I don't know Mike that well. I admire the hell out of him. Look, this next book that I just finished, Pat, I talked about the Hall of Fame and the criteria for coaches. There should be a criteria for a coach to get in the Hall of Fame. And Mike Tomlin meets the criteria.

He's the Hall of Fame coach right now. Tell him where to get it. Tell him where to get it. It won't be out. I mean, it's going to get on Amazon all day, but I'm still in the editing phase of it. It should be out by next football season, hopefully. All right. Well, we can't wait. Well, it's not hopefully. It's going to be. I'm going to the editing phase of it. It should be out by next football season, hopefully. All right, well, we can't wait. Well, it's not hopefully.

It's going to be. I'm going to get it done, Dan. Yeah, get the fucking thing done, Lombo. Don't be lazy ass over there. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Michael, one head coach you do know very well is Bill Belichick. What do you think is going on up there? It's all been doom and gloom being reported.

Why do you think Bill Belichick even changed the offense, and what do you think a realistic expectation of the season is? He's got no lumbos on Steph. Well, I think this. I spent a lot of time. I watched the Patriots and the Raiders practice. I think when you have Tom Brady in for 20-some years, 20 years, 19 years, and Josh McDaniels for as much of that, Billy O'Brien, Charlie Weiss,

there was a volume of offense that got built up. Now Mac Jones comes in. he learns pieces of it. I think Bill's intention was always to kind of get back to where he can get the younger players to play quicker. Look, they've got to handle the details much better. I think this is bigger than who's calling the plays. I think this is about who's the voice of the offense. And I think Mac probably needs Bill's voice more than anybody. This is not a

disparaging word to Patricia or Judge. I just think the only guy that really will have the ability to run the offense effectively for the year will be Bill. Because, you know, I laugh at people saying Bill doesn't know anything about offense. Oh, really? You know, ask any offensive coordinator if he doesn't know anything about offense. He understands the game completely. So I think it's a work in progress. I really do. They've got to tighten up a lot of details. They've got to improve. There's no denying that.

I think that they have not played to the level, especially in that Raider game, where they had their first team out there and the Raiders were playing their backups. That's something. But it's something you build on, and you've got to practice it. I'm sure they'll get it fixed. I think Mack, when I watched him last week, I think Mack's going to be really a good player i thought mac's stronger he's quicker but he needs to be able to get comfortable and confident right now lambo i saw one particular play he threw it into six guys i mean it was his worst throw i've seen mac yeah it's the worst throw i've ever seen mac jones have

and then we started i started looking at like the route concepts there didn't see like seem like this is it right here you know what play this is I know exactly which play should have thrown the ball over to the the d-slant over there and he leaves the pocket and he makes a horrible look he made he made two he made he made bad decisions in the game there's no denying that and I think they're that this confidence has to come back and if you're thinking about you think it's because I don't know what the play was called. So I don't know if somebody ran the wrong route or what happened. But he's leaving the pocket too quickly.

I think he's just not playing like a comfortable, confident player. That's got to change. You think it will change by the time it goes down to Miami because that front of Miami is physical. They're hard to block, you know, and they're coming. They're going to cover up the guards. They're going to cover up the center. They're going to make you have to beat them. They're going to block, you know, and they're coming. They're going to cover up the guards. They're going to cover up the center. They're going to make you have to beat them. They're going to play man-to-man.

They're going to go back to their blitz zero game that they played a lot early in the year last year. That's where New England's going to have to step it up. You think they'll figure it out, though? It's Bill, right? I mean, that's how we should do it. I think they will. I think anybody – I think this is when – you know, Bill –

I think Bill's at his best when everybody doubts him. I really do. Well, Boomer. Boomer didn't doubt him. Boomer came in at that press conference yesterday and gave him a high note. Boomer, good to see you. Hey, we're great. Boomer goes way back, I think, with Bill.

I know when he was the head coach in 91, Boomer was, you know, always around. So, you know, I mean, Bill has a great sense of history for the game. And Boomer's impact at that station really was part of the history of the game, let's face it i think he liked boomer because he was clearly talking to boomer oh yeah in this video he sees boomer show up late oh look good yeah you probably get you know boomer showed up late one of his great lines is one wrong all wrong i mean you know you can't just show up late now that's why i think he was oh look who look who it is. Fucking Boomer. You graced us with your presence. Had Boomer ask the first question, too. Yeah, that shit talk.

Like, I appreciate that out of Bill. I really enjoy the human. Never really met him. But I just have a feeling he'll figure it the fuck out. As will this man, D-Butt. Your question for Lombo. I'm going to stick with Matt, Lombo. You talked about Matt Jones and Kyle Shanahan falling in love with him out of the draft.

I know it's old news now, but personally as a player, I didn't see much of an improvement going from Jimmy to Mac, but you said you did. What did you see from Mac coming out? What ceiling do you see on Mac compared to Trey? I think Mac is real. I think Jimmy has a lot of plays that you wish Jimmy didn't make. I think Jimmy has that, God dang it, Jimmy, why'd you do that?

Now he's won 33 games for Kyle. Kyle's only won eight games without Jimmy as a head coach. So I think Matt is more of an understanding what's going on. I think he'll have less negative plays, less bad plays with Matt, protect the ball better as he grows and develops as a young player. I think Matt, even though he's not as athletic, he can still move. Matt Schaub ran this offense for the Houston Texans for years and wasn't athletic.

So I think it's more of a mental upstairs part of the game, the timing, the rhythm. I think we're all the things that fit exactly what Kyle and his father see in quarterback. Look, I think the hardest thing to do in college right now, a lot of these quarterbacks don't anticipate throws. They don't throw the end cut before the end cut. They wait until the end cut's open before they throw it.

And in pro football, you've got to anticipate throws. I thought Mack did that really well. Two times you've dropped Schaub's name today. He was a guy, huh? Not enough credit? Respect? I mean, look, they have really good offense. You've been out of Houston to play them, and you'd say,

oh, he can't move, he can't do this, and he's bootlegging out, making plays here. I mean, look, that's the one thing about this system. Schaub a third round pick right uh kirk cousins a fourth round pick i mean they've been able to get the quarterback to play at the highest level brian greasy played for mike in denver you know jake plumber was a you know as they traded for him they brought him in there so i mean it's a quarterback friendly system for players, and when you don't excel in it and make those plays you need to make, it becomes problematic. Greasy, Kirk, Schaub.

Jake Plummer. Jake Plummer. Me. Connor Campbell. Maybe. I mean, that is something to think about. Kirk Cousins earned himself a $90 million guaranteed deal playing in the Shanahan.

Matt Ryan, great in that particular. Really good. I think Matt's going to be great for the Colts. I love the Colts. I've said this on my show. I love the Colts on the over. I think Matt's going to be really good for the Colts because he's a really good play-action passer.

And this offense that Frank, and Frank's really good at adapting the offense to the quarterback. I think he'll be really good for him. I hope so, Lombo. I bought a suite this year, season ticket suite. It was expensive. Yeah, it was very – well, it was nice. The second time was very good.

It's nice. The first – what's that? Cobwebs. The first time. You know what, Pat? If not now, when? Seriously, if not now, when? If not us, then who?

Yes, right. I agree. There's a lot of those you could potentially ask yourself. But going in there and watching that team, they look good. Like, it looks like a good team. The defense seems to have guys at every position you need to have a guy in. The offense, I mean, we don't have enough weapons at Alombo. Football has changed, hasn't it?

Don't you need fucking weapons right now, Alombo, in a plethora? Because at some point, an injury is going to come and when that injury comes it can't just completely fucking kill everything you have going every team that has won as of late has a long list of fucking weapons at the skill position on offense don't you think lombo i think you got to have great players there's no doubt i mean look cincinnati got hot at the right time last year and they were healthy. I mean, they were healthy going into that. Look, you know, after they lost to San Francisco,

they didn't turn the ball over but two more times in the remaining games of the season. The kicker made 14 consecutive field goals in the playoffs. It's all about being really good at the right time, and they were good to start the season. This is a misnomer, I think, as you're getting ready to bet there's a misnomer about these September games that teams can start slow no good teams start fast and they finish fast I think if you go back you'd have to go back to

2018 when the Patriots won the Super Bowl they were 2 and 2 in the month of September most every team since then has been a winning record in September yeah because the common thought is it matters when it matters. You know, a team's going to stumble out of the gates. What you're saying is there's a good barometer these first couple of weeks of who has a chance to fucking maybe get hot later. That's what stats tell us. Yeah, that's right. I think if you're good, you're good. You're going to be good starting out. Cincinnati was good last year starting out. Now you're always going to go through some difficult periods. You got bumps in the road. You've got

obstacles you have to overcome. But I think Cincinnati proved they were good. The Rams proved they were good. And they got better. Look, the Rams stayed healthy. I mean, the Rams had zero depth. But they were able to stay healthy. And I think one of the MVPs of the Rams team last year was Notebloom, the left tackle. He stayed healthy when Whitworth

got hurt, which I thought was going to really hurt their team. And he was able to play really well hey fucking Stafford's a guy by the way we haven't really talked to you we haven't really yeah they add weapons at Vaughn Miller they add Odell Beckham Jr. they add it's like you got to go if you're going to win these days it feels like and uh you know the Colts one got Matt Ryan out of his fucking contract let's go yeah let's go win one let's get some weapons on these you know-new free agents that have been cut. Devin Allen out of Philadelphia. Bring him in.

Bring him a shot. Let's fucking go ahead and take the top off this whole thing. Ty, your question for Lambeau. Yeah, Lambeau, speaking of not having any weapons, the Packers, they're receiving – a lot of people say whatever they want to say about not picking guys in the first round, but they always had a guy like either Jordy Nelson or Devonta Adams there. They don't have that anymore.

Do you think Aaron Rodgers is good enough to kind of overcome that and raise up all these other guys around who are going to have to make big impacts this year? And in terms of starting fast, do you think it's going to take them a little bit of time to kind of work into what they're going to be by the end of the season? You know, I would never doubt the talent of the quarterback. In this next book, you know, there's a great dark player. Gump may know him because he's such a big soccer guy. Phil Taylor is the greatest dark player in the history of the world. He's the most accurate. He's won more world titles. I think Aaron Rodgers could beat Phil Taylor. I mean, that's how accurate he is.

Last year, when you look at the numbers of one of the things I always look at. Hold on, Colombo. Imagine him in the middle of those European dart bars. Yeah. Aaron would. You look at percentage of throws, how many attempts and how many catches. And usually tight ends are in the 80 percentile lower. There's high 70s. Receivers

are in the 60s. When you play for Aaron Rodgers, you're going to be in the 70s. Devontae Adams is like 73%. He throws the ball to you. You've got to catch it. You have no choice. His presence makes defense worry. I mean, the only guy that was a 50-50 player last year was Valdez Scanlon.

He was the only one. Everybody else was. So they're going to have to count on Cobb, Lessard, and these young players to develop. I think what Aaron said the other day two weeks ago about these guys needing to step up, he was just basically coaching the team, saying, hey, we've got to get you to play at our level. Like, this can't just be every other day or, you know, every other period.

We need your attention and detail every single time. If you're supposed to outside release on the route, outside release. If you're supposed to get inside the corner, get inside the corner. I'll get you the ball, but you've got to do your part. I don't underestimate the Packers at all. So you're telling me Aaron Rodgers can beat this guy, you think? What? Yeah, I think he wouldn't be Phil.

No way. Listen, I'm a big Aaron Rodgers fan. This motherfucker don't play, though, when he's got the dart in his hand. I mean, he is. No, I mean, Phil Taylor would have a hard time with Aaron Rodgers. Look, and Phil Taylor's never had pressure in his face when he throws those darts. True. True.

I think Aaron Rodgers could figure out darts for sure. I think he could split darts with other darts, but that's what Phil Taylor's been doing. That's right. I mean, that's all. Those dart tournaments are the fucking best to watch. Just pints everywhere. 180. And then they're completely quiet.

And it's like a golf thing real quick or like a dive. When people are diving in the pools, it gets real quiet. And then it gets super quiet again.'s it's insane that and i think aaron would that would be oh yeah there would be so many of these oh yeah look at that fucking guy he's never been hit when he's thrown it i mean that's the thing i mean rogers throws darts and he gets hit and gets back up there has to be a way we could set this up and handicap it some sort of way because phil would have to have some sort of advantage here. Give Aaron like two, three weeks, I guess.

We can really give him a chance. Maybe we get a little bit bigger. Just as a little tiny. He has to wear his helmet, maybe. Phil has to wear the helmet. Something to think about. Exactly. I love that. He's so good, though. He's so good at football. And he is one of one. He's an alien, Lombo.

That guy's an alien. He is an anomaly, and I think for a long time everybody hated him for it. Now I feel like he's finally coming into the time where everybody's like, oh, this guy is a hippie who happens to be the fucking best quarterback to ever play football. You better appreciate him because they don't come around very often. I mean, you better appreciate him because he's just a player that is so unique and what he can do and so i don't underestimate him i don't know if watson can make the step or the other young receiver but to me i think that he will get the ball to them and they will move

the ball this dude's a back-to-back mvp in the nfl right now the biggest league on earth the biggest i mean stupid sport This is a book he recommended for people to read in a one week book club. 8,000 pages. Best guy to ever do it. What's it called? The Fingerprints of the Gods by Graham Hancock. Only 700 pages. Don't worry

about it. Size 5 font. Don't worry about it. In part 7 on page 386 the Tyrian papyrus in the palermo stone the figure of 39,000 years accords surprisingly closely with the testimony of the tyrian papyrus one of the two surviving ancient egyptian king lists that extends back into prehistoric times before the first dynasty okay so the best thrower of a fucking American football is going to be reading that in his downtime? Nobody expected that.

The guy is one of one. He's his own being whenever you talk about no matter what dimension we're in. And he's so fucking good. It's awesome. It pisses so many people off, Lombo, that that's the case. I love it. I mean, look, I just love watching him play. I could watch him play all day long.

I mean, it's just when you watch great players like Devontae Adams, because I was out at practice with the Raiders and the Patriots, just watching Devontae Adams work, his attention to detail, his precision in his routes, the pace, the way he changes his speed on routes, is just an education for a scout. Because how do you learn about great players? Watch great players. And we have a hard time in sports is understanding what greatness looks like from good we compare everybody who's

good greatness is over time you do it year after year after year that's how you get into the hall of fame you don't have a short career you have a long career of greatness uh let's talk about the greatest a man that you know very well you've worked alongside. I think you know him personally. Tom Brady just took an 11-day absence. That surprised the shit out of you? Because let me tell you what. He came back, played against the Colts. We had a front-row seat to it.

Still can fucking throw the ball and knows exactly where everybody's going. And 11 days meant nothing to Tom Brady's performance. Yeah, I would suspect the 11 days away, he had a bag of balls and two receivers he was throwing to. I'm just guessing. I don't think he missed a day. Look, here's a man that every Thursday after practice, he goes and works on his quarterback drops. Now, he's been working on quarterback drops

since 1985 when he played high school football. So, he still has that attention to detail. I think what he said the other day was very humanizing. I'm third 45. I got a lot of stuff going on. I'm sure this was preplanned. I'm sure the Bucs knew it was going to happen before he came out of retirement.

But when I watched what you watched, Pat, I thought he threw the ball as good as I've ever seen him throw the ball. In that stadium the other night, he was precise and he was quick-minded. That's the thing with older quarterbacks. You always worry about their eye level. You worry about them. Are they looking at the rush? Are they throwing it on time?

Man, he was good. He was throwing it on time. This isn't the play I don't think. Fast forward a couple plays here. That was a great ball to Cam Bray. Hit him right in the back so he can continue to run. Although it's third and ten. This one.

Fourth and three right here. Go to the next shot. It's from the front. It's Tyler Johnson, too. He's available. Look at this. Watch his drop. Go ahead. From at this watch his drop good uh from the snap full speed from the snap full speed fox he's got to deal with like a little tiny ball look at this bang that thing is out real quick right on it doesn't even take a second guess back foot hits the ground balls coming out fourth and three on the numbers to a guy that got how many targets last year?

55, I believe. 55 targets last year. He is now a free agent. Colts need a weapon. Come on. He played good on the grass there. I liked that kid. I was surprised they cut him. I thought he was coming along. You know, I really did. Tyler Johnson from Minnesota. Look, I think what we learned from watching Brady on that play is

how quick-minded he is. When he got that ball in his hand, he knew he was throwing it to him. There was no hesitation from his foot movement to his arm. And I think that's where a lot of young players, I mean, I think not to pick on Trey Lance, but he's not ready to do that yet. He's not ready to do that that quickly. Well, he is the greatest of all time, so maybe Trey Lance will have a chance to go catch him. I'm excited to see how the Niners kind of handle this situation,

both in the locker room and also outside. I'm sure they'll have it figured out because they're a great group of people. That's right. Speaking of great person, we can't thank you enough for rejoining us, Paisan. Thanks, guys. You're the best. Ladies and gentlemen, Michael Lombardi. Yeah!

It is happening in some people's football? Careers might be over. And that is obviously the negative part of today when the final cuts are being made for rosters. And they won't be, you know, necessarily what the team will look like a week from now. But there are some guys who are getting a heads up from somebody for the first time in their life being told they're not good enough. There's some guys being told that they'll never get to play football again because of this. And there are some people that are going to have to come to the realization that the next chapter of their life has become now. That's obviously the negatives of today, the positives of today. There's going to be brand new free agents. There's going to be a

lot of guys that are maybe going to get to pick and choose where their next destination is and might be able to land themselves in a much better spot than maybe they once were. So there's a lot of potential opportunity in today as well, although there is a huge, huge negative. You know, like some guys selling insurance starting next week because of what happened today. Some guys maybe making sandwiches because of what happened today.

Good luck. Some guys going to be playing in Dwayne Rock Johnson's league, CFL, looking for an opportunity to get back. And some guys will sign somewhere else. So we've got to take that all into account on this massive day in the NFL. Just less than 24 hours removed from Jimmy Garoppolo restructuring his contract to remain a San Francisco 49er. Today's a hell of a day.

The Talks at Table is here at Ty Schmidt at Boston Connor. One half of the hammer. Cowboys Tone Diggs is here and live in studio like he will be this season on Wednesdays and Thursdays. Ladies and gentlemen, host of the Man to Man podcast, Darius Piper. Thank you very much. Joining us in an attic in Ohio, a man who's a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup champion, and COVID survivor, multi-time. A lot of new information coming out about... About what?

I'm not getting into it. Well, there's a lot, so you're going to tell us what's in that shit, okay? Yeah, I'm sure that'll happen. But it feels like a lot of stuff's coming. A lot of stats are being reanalyzed. About what? Oh. I just think we're about to learn a lot, maybe,

about what AJ survived multiple times, as did I. Get your heart checked. Get your heart checked, Connor, if you. What? Me too. I got it once. You survived? Survived.

Never got it. All right. Can't get it if you don't take a test. Join us. All right. Goddamn right. All right. Join us now.

A man who beat COVID twice. At least. AJ Hawk. Yeah. AJ Hawk. How you doing? What's up, guys? You telling me Sirius really paid Conan O'Brien $150 million?

Listen, there's no reason to die back in the day. When did that happen? I thought it was Spotify or something else. Full catalog. No, that was, you're thinking of Justin Timberlake. He sold all of his music. $100 million in his catalog. He sold Team Coco, his podcast network, right?

Yes. And it's just his podcast. I believe there's a couple of original content pieces as well that is included in the $120 to $150 million deal. Good for the big guy. I love Coco. That's what I said. That's why I did not enjoy the fact that...

He smoked dope on stage with Seth Rogen on his show, I think. What? Okay, that sounds like one video you saw. That sounds like one video that you had seen, and I'm happy we got a chance to bring that up because that does make Coco even better in my eyes, although Ty and everybody seems to be getting very negative. No. Shout out to Coco.

Shout out to Team Coco over there doing their thing. Crush on the internet, on YouTube. I believe they have a great presence. And he changed game late night, obviously. I wasn't being negative. I was just saying for all those marks out there coming at you and us for not being on Sirius, it's like, hey, listen, we ain't working for peanuts, okay? They just gave Conan O'Brien $120 million.

It's like, you know, there's a little bit of piece of the pie to go around. Cousin Sal still on Conan's show? It was $150 million. Cousin Sal was on Conan's show? It was $150 million. Cousin Sal was with Jimmy Kimmel. That is a completely different show. And there's no reason to even dive into that. Thank you, AJ, for bringing back that up. You know what I mean?

Bringing that back up. I can't ask questions here. I'm sorry. Well, we already had it. Stat was presented. And then you wanted what? Confirmation is what you wanted for your run? I don't know.

I can't tell. Ty's delivery is so smooth and so direct. I don't really know if he's telling the truth or not. I honestly thought Conan O'Brien has sold the digital media and podcasting company he's been building since leaving late night to SiriusXM. Wall Street Journal News exclusive.

Conan O'Brien's podcast company sells to SiriusXM and deal valued around $100 million. I remember this happened but I was happy for Conan O'Brien. Of course. And honestly, whenever I looked over at Ty to talk while we were chatting about our SiriusXM deal ending, I thought Ty was going to talk about his experience and how he enjoyed getting to know people.

Instead, it went the opposite direction. That's a bad read on my part. I do apologize for that because I got nothing but positive things to say about everybody at SiriusXM. Let's move on. Jimmy G restructures his contract. $6.5 million guaranteed. $27,777 per game if he's on the roster goes to him. So another $500,000 throughout the entirety of the season.

Then $9 million more in playtime and playing-based bonuses, which we'd assume if he becomes a starter the percentage of plays that he plays on the offense how the offense does when he's in there if he makes a pro bowl if the team goes to the wild card divisional round you get it there's probably bonuses associated all that can go up to 16 million if you add all that together clears 18.6 million somehow in cap space of, because nothing matters when it comes to that. AJ, whenever you saw this and heard this, were you as befuddled as I was and I think Darius was?

Because from our standpoint, this just seems like a drama maker in the locker room, but they know better than us, I guess, AJ. I mean, I don't think they had a whole lot of other options. They didn't want to cut him, it seems like. But does this clear the path for him to potentially get traded during the season if somebody goes down another team it opens up a little bit makes him a little easier to trade him now so my immediate thought was oh they got a less a

smaller number so that they have to guarantee that on week one and then they're still going to try to shop them but it sounds like all reactions are no he's back in the building he's back in the meeting rooms like they're bringing him back to bring him back. There's no trade clause in there. He would have to waive it. Yeah, so he had to clear that. Which I think he had in his last one too, right? Yeah, he did. So that just remained in there.

Well, he should. So he would just have to say, no, I'm not going there. Yes, I will go. And it can't be tagged as well. So he's definitely a free agent. His contract is up after this year. What if Jimmy goes out, balls, and then what are they going to do then? What do they do after another year of that?

And Trey Lance goes into the preseason. There's a couple of ducks four or five feet outside. And then they just keep running his back. What if they go to the NFC Championship again? AJ, it's going to be tough to manage in that locker room, I think. Honestly. Well, if they go to the NFC Championship game and Trey Lance stays in the lineup and doesn't get hurt and plays well,

then they're fine, right? Yes, that's what we're talking about. We're talking about Jimmy coming in and playing. Like, does the leash on Trey Lance, is it any shorter because Jimmy is there? Does he feel that? How is Kyle addressing that with those two, I guess? Or the team, AJ. Oh, yeah, you're going to have to let the team know,

hey, this is our plan, this is what we're doing. They all love Jimmy. It does seem like they get along. But, yeah, like what's the future look like, I guess? Trey misses three passes week one. Let's just say his first three. Shit ducks wide. Whatever.

Maybe picked, deflected, picked. And Jimmy's just standing there. What, he has a headset on, I guess? Jimmy has a headset on? Yeah. Holding a clip on. Yeah. Holding a clipboard. And everybody, how is the natural reaction not to be like, oh, sweet.

You're fucking playing now. Yeah. Jimmy looked like, you know, I don't know how you stopped that. How long? Yeah. How much? I guess it'll be funny to see early on this season if Trey Lance struggles at all, which I hope he does not. We hope not.

How much they have the camera on Jimmy on the sidelines. Oh, is Jimmy getting warmed up? Oh, here we go. It's going to be all about that. It's going to be a thing for sure. We're watching Mason with Kenny Pickett, just in a preseason game that did not matter. I believe Mason will be making the 53.

Is that what they're saying? Yeah, as of right now, he is still on it. What is your problem? Can we just get some reported facts? Come on. Let's get some facts. I'm saying there's 57 players left on the team. They've got to get down to 53.

Why are you going to carry three quarterbacks? I don't know. Are you smarter than Tomlin? I'm not,'s 57 players left on the team. They've got to get down to 53. Why are you going to carry three quarterbacks? I don't know. Are you smarter than Tomlin? I'm not, but, you know. One more? Apparently people have called about the trade, and they're just, you know. I don't know, man. What's wrong with him being on the roster, Diggs?

You ever carry three quarterbacks on a roster? Yeah. There is people that do carry three quarterbacks. Aaron, Matt Flynn, Graham Harrell all together at the same time. Graham Harrell? Graham Harrell was on the roster? The good QB room should have got his shot. Cowboys are only carrying one.

Graham Harrell is about to leave West Virginia to the promised land. You're goddamn right he is. He and JT Daniel are about to to sling that rock all over the yard i thought jt daniels is he the quarterback there i thought he oh okay i thought he's let's ride guys yeah rumor has it that he got he has their competing yeah yeah so i just popped the brakes on this last virginia excitement oh no there was a backup some other middle with an arm hoagie was a young quarterback last year maybe beat him up oh great Virginia excitement. I don't know. There was a backup. Some other trash can with an arm. Hogie was the young quarterback last year.

Maybe you beat him up. Oh, great. He was great last year. Well, Graham loves him, too. What the fuck, bro? I thought we were bringing in change. Well, it doesn't matter who's playing quarterback because they got the best goddamn play caller in the nation. Sure.

Giving them plays, though. Who are you talking about? Goddamn Graham Harrell. That's who I'm talking about. Good to see you on Graham's side now, Con Man. I was never not on Graham's side, AJ. Is that right? It sounded like there was a couple moments where you weren't,

but I'm happy you're on our side. We're going to be boosting West Virginia, I think, to beat Pitt on Thursday night. Walk. Hopefully it goes through. Hopefully FanDuel lets us. This year has really become a little bit more of a – Mountaineers, huh?

Let's go. Boosting the 7.5 for the Moylan. Well, definitely the 7.5. Both. Let's not get crazy. Actually, we might try to boost the 9.5, maybe 10.5. Okay, let's not get crazy. There's going to be a lot of energy in there.

First game of the year. There's going to be... I think they're underdogs. Yeah. They're replacing Kenny Pickett, though. Who's the next stud? Everyone else comes back. They lost their best wide receiver, too?

Yeah, nobody cares. This West Virginia team has not impressed many people over the last couple years. Neil Brown? I trust the climbers. Your fucking head coach has a bowl cut. I mean, that's an issue. I haven't seen him. I want to see a picture.

That's an issue. He's got a bowl cut with a visor on. I like him. He's a good guy. Yeah. He's a good guy. Graham Hale called offense. Maybe. He's a good guy. Yeah. He's a good guy. Graham Harrell called offense. Maybe.

He's going to have to win some fucking games, though, and I'd be very happy if he kept that thing. Let's win on Thursday. They're going to need Graham Harrell's juice because Akershire is going to be bumping. Kenny Pickett's in the house. There's going to be a lot of West Virginia fucks there. Don't you worry about that.

And Wani. Wani's going to be in the house. Pac-Man's going to be there. I don't care about Wani's set. Pac-Man's going to be there. I believe a lot of the boys are going to be there. West Virginia sideline is going to be packed. And there's going to be a lot of West Virginia contenders Juan's set. Pac-Man's going to be there. I believe a lot of the boys are going to be there. West Virginia's sideline is going to be packed. And there's going to be a lot of West Virginia.

They don't usually play this game week one, do they? No, normally it's the middle of the season. It's the first time back five years or something like that. Normally it's a conference game. Well, it was a conference game. Oh, yeah. No, it's not. Because West Virginia wasn't allowed in the ACC.

Oh, yeah. What the fuck? Why didn't they just take us? That would have made everything so much easier. It really would have. They regret it now, too. Who? The ACC.

Yeah, of course they did. Because you guys were good then, but now. What's that? Now it's like, oh, West Virginia, who cares? No! Not after Thursday. Yeah, not after Thursday. Not after Thursday.

This year's different. That's right. I got a lot of people sending me text messages trying to wager a lot. Got to. Back your brawl. No means a lot. Got to. How your brawl. No means a lot. Got you. How about 1,000?

I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I didn't know JT was in the quarterback. No offense. Like, hey, let's go. Yeah, we're going to win. Let's fucking win. Okay? But also, I don't know if we're going to.

I've seen them on national television a few times. And unless Graham Harrell is avataring for the quarterback, I don't know how we're going to potentially I don't even know the pit team but I know this West Virginia team from last year and a year before that and a year before that and I think the year before that and it's like all right I'm not I'm not being forced into fucking twenty thirty thousand dollars worth of bets make sense you know what I mean with With 10 points, 7 points, 10 points, you've got to take that, right? Yeah, 10 points. Right, 10 points. Let's go.

I want 10. Week one, it's going to be close. It's going to be close. Rivalry game, got to be. College kids are going to be nervous. Sure. It's going to be tight, probably. It's fucking, it's going to be loud.

It's going to be close. Seven and a half is more than enough. Yeah. 100% right, D-Bone. We don't even need to know who the fucking players are. Damn right. Because we don't. We don't have a clue.

No clue. But this year's different because we're going to be in a college football landscape. That's right. Exactly. Let's remember that, AJ. Your boots on the ground on Saturday, I believe, Ohio State and Notre Dame. Somebody needs to get to this backyard brawl on Thursday night. Well, on Pitt's quarterback, Slobodan Milosevic actually used to be the USC starting quarterback.

What the fuck is this guy's name? He actually beat out JT Daniels at USC. Oh. Slobodan Milosevic. Slobodan Milosevic. Slobodan Milosevic. That's not his real name. So this is a fake name? The real name Keaton Slovis sometimes goes by Slobodan Milosevic. This is our problem with this show.

That's real. That's his name. The first time I hear this human's existence, you guys give me a name that is nowhere near his actual name. This is Dougie Mills all over again, but way worse. What's Cousy's name? Keaton Slovis, a.k.a. Slobodan Milosevic. Just like Straveler, a.k.a. Stravolski.

Gumpy's tweeting to Rap Sheep. This guy's name is Keaton Slovis. And you said Slobon Slobodan Milosevic. Yeah. No, they stopped him at Ellis Island and made him change it before he came over to play. Listen, America did some fucked up shit with that whole thing. Where are you from? Germany. Or Deutschland. Germany. Get the fuck out of here. What's your name?

Okay, sweet. Smith, get the fuck out of here. Yeah, you also have smallpox. Sorry, shoot this guy in the head and throw him in the river. I'm done with this guy. I mean, they should have done things a little vastly different, obviously. But this is something we don't know enough about, and we need to learn more about.

Okay? This Thursday, West Virginia starts their climb to the top. Hell yeah. And they're going to keep it within seven and a half points with that pit team. We can send our guy, Ian Zerdan, to watch the game and give us a scout report too. I think you'll want to watch from home so he gets all 22. Yeah, you're probably right. True.

Want to be able to get the answers. Rewind, yeah. The whole thing. AJ, that's a big deal happening on Thursday. College football is like here. Oh, yeah. We're here. You calling a team this year?

They played in Ireland, right? Yeah, right. Yeah, Ireland. How does that come about? Ireland hosts a college this year? They played in what? Ireland, right? Yeah, right. Yeah, Ireland. Well, how does that come about? Ireland hosts a college football game? How does that even take place? I love it. Yeah.

But how did that? The Aer Lingus Bowl? Notre Dame played there a few years ago, but that makes sense. Yeah. The Irish. The fighting ones. Yeah. I don't know how this comes about.

I don't know. Northwestern had that cool design in their home. Maybe they showed that. Fitzgerald Irish name right Oh yeah Very much so They were giving out Free beer too

Did you see that Yeah cause the Internet went down Or something How does that make sense So Ireland was like Take a beer lad Jeez you don't have

The internet We get it Fucking black out I guess Electric atmosphere I'd say Purdue's also Thursday night Yeah All right here we go

You on a team though This year or no We're back We're back You know we can only go up. Won 11 last year. Been stinking for the last few years. But Jim Moore, new era, new year.

Our starting quarterback, I heard, in the first drive last week. But we still covered and competed against Utah State. So I'm excited about where we're going. Jim Moore is the coach? Junior. Yeah, Jim Moore. Junior.

Hey, blow. Remember last year, that coach? He got promoted to head coach. He was like, I'm not fucking coaching these guys. I'm out of here. You remember that? Yeah. You call it, too. Yeah, Jim Moore Jr. Hey, bro. Remember last year, that coach? He got promoted to head coach. He was like, I'm not fucking coaching these guys. I'm out of here. You remember that? You still remember, all right? No, you talking about Randy Essel?

Sure. That was my guy. He said, this ain't the same school. Sorry about it, D, but I need to get the fuck out of here and live my life. I mean, they're in a tough situation. We were talking about the Big E's before we got on the air. They're independent and recruiting in the Northeast. That's a tough spot to be in as a coach.

But Jim, he's got these guys going the right way. D, but how cool would it be to just be like A.J.? Like Ohio State's always going to be good. You know, like every conversation he's ever had with any other NFL guys. But if they lose one game, the sky is falling, though. That's the downside. Like Mack Brown in Texas. Yeah, but I think every school, the first game they lose, sky's falling.

No, but a lot of schools expect it. Like you, I don't know. Yeah, but I think every school, though, first game they lose, sky's falling. No, but a lot of schools expect it. Like, you – I don't know. Yeah, it's a great – it's what you want your team to be to where they expect to win every single game, and you want the fan base that way. But also, like, for the coaches and everyone, there's a lot on those dudes. You lose two games, see you later. West Virginia's about to go undefeated. Sure.

So is Iowa. No doubt. See you in the national championship. Well, I don't think that's – I hope they do. So are the Dukes That'd be sweet Why was everybody

I didn't understand that Here's another situation That the red On film From Duquesne That guy had his They thought it was his pants What pants and nips

Are you talking about What the fuck was that It was his undershirt It was his undershirt But at first glance It did look like He had his pants Up to his nipples

Don't worry They went down To Florida State and covered So not a big deal It was his undershirt. It was his undershirt, but at first glance, it did look like he had his pants up to his nipples. Don't worry. They went down to Florida State and covered. So, not a big deal. Good start. Isn't that fit? That guy did that? Oh, yeah.

That dude came? That guy. Start at the end. Wait until the Dukes get back in the FCS action. What was the spread? Jacksonville State's about to fucking go ahead. The spread on that one was 40-something. 44? You guys covered?

Yeah. Let's go, Dukes. Huge cover. Florida State's dead, maybe. Can't cover 40-something against the Duquesne Dukes. They got that guy on the team. FCS powerhouse. As soon as I saw that, though, I was so confused.

There it is. I didn't know what the thing was. I had to actually scroll through, and there were his pants up to his neck. I was like, oh. How tall is he? Zeke should do that. What about 30? 30 is an interesting spot here. Scatback. What's his name? Scatback. Yeah, he? Zeke should do that. What about 30? 30 is an interesting spot here.

What's his name? Scott Beck. Yeah, he's going to have to be. Not interested in getting in the game. No, yeah, he's good. Never seen that body language on the side. I mean, here's the guy right behind him on the right. And the play is coming at you, too.

There's no reason to cook these kids. No. That was just an undershirt. They're fucking red. What do you want them to do? Camera can't pick it up as well. You know what that is? That social media accounts once again who don't know football well enough.

Oh, yeah. Deebo actually thought it was his pants, though. So Deebo had to score. Yeah, but Deebo was fucking, he was, you know, had some fucking. Yeah, was he in the goddamn clouds like he is today? Oh, my gosh. He's an ayahuasca. Fucking.

He's smoking ayahuasca. No, I don't do that stuff. Get a cinder block around his ankle right Paul you're goddamn right joke for you guys why is everybody saying Darius is hot is that what you guys are saying

no I'm not saying that I'm trying to keep the cinder block around his ankle it's like floating away yeah same thing we had to do with Mitt remember a couple and Todd a couple times yeah had to do with Mitt

you mean have to do with Mitt yeah Mitt's still having him be tied down like balloons you know what I mean just tether him at all times maybe you know let's move on get him an anchor for concrete his shoes every morning Yeah, Mitt's still having them be tied down like balloons. He might just tether them at all times, maybe. Let's move on. Get him an anchor. Mitt's a weather balloon at this point.

Concrete in his shoes every morning. This show's the worst. Okay, this is why Sirius fired us. God damn it! Go right to the window. You're right. Ladies and gentlemen, today is the day where a lot of people are finding out what their fate is in the football world.

What does their future look like? Are they going to be rich NFLers? Are they going to change the course of their entire family's lives and the legacy and the family tree forever? Or are they being shown a door to a new life in something that isn't nearly as glorious or as high-paying? Are dreams being realized or nightmares being faced? That's what today is.

Today is brand-new free agent Tuesday, August 30th, where teams are having to make their first cutdowns to their first final roster. That'll be changing as the week goes on here and throughout the entire season. There's always a turnover of players with injuries happening, other positions having to give up, guys. It's a whole game. New families are being moved to new places today because of what they're finding out it is a crazy time to be alive here's some of the brand new free agents that have just been announced already today kellen maund who chris sims had is the number four uh prospect qb

in the nfl can throw like mac jones better than some other people which by the way chris sims has been accurate in a lot of his quarterback breakdowns and everything like that so kellen mond was a surprise sony michelle is on the road again josh gordon flash as he's excited for his next stop who needs weapons the colts do the packers do will flash have another chance and another opportunity to continue that once promising elite career before a bullshit rule ruled him out. Tony Jefferson's out there. Strafoski. Hold on.

D-Butt, I want to ask about Tony Jefferson. Weren't you surprised by that? Oh, kind of. He's been obviously dealing with some injuries. He got on late last year. I think he'll still get another opportunity. I was surprised to see him cut, though. How about CJ?

Same thing with Anthony Harris. Anthony Harris cut. CJ, GJ traded from the Saints to the Philadelphia Eagles. That's a big-time move in the secondary, right? That's a huge move. So they said extension talks broke down, but he's one of the best slot defenders in the league. That's what he's been playing primarily.

And now going into Philly, he's going to be a full-time safety, you know, trying to get paid. Easy. You've done that type of thing, haven't you? I wouldn't say easy, but I think for him, the type of player that he is, I think it'll be an easier transition than most players. And he's doing it at, you know, usually a lot of guys do it like I did it going into my ninth year.

He's like, what, four or five years in maybe, so going younger. So, you know, a lot more tread left on the tire. I'm excited about him, though. Getting that defense, it's a lot of good, good ball players in that secondary. So I'm excited about that move for Philly. And Sirianni has heard all of his teammates say, hey, this guy starts shit with everybody. He starts fights with everybody.

And Sirianni is like, he sounds like a dog. Get him on our roster however we need to do it. Howie Roseman makes the trade this morning, becoming a big deal. But these are the things we're going to see over the next couple of days. New places, new faces. CJ, GJ, my sources have told me, everybody that plays against that Saints defense fucking hates him. So that is what you

want on your team. The Philadelphia Eagles continue to stack that roster, make moves, almost go all in. Will Jalen Hurts lead them to the promised land? Will Sirianni make the right situational decisions down the stretch when it matters? Will they be able to get a stop? That's what everybody wants to know, and their fan base has to think,

our motherfucking team's going all in right now. Ricky quarterback pay. Got a Ricky quarterback pay, and you got to go all in. You got a window. You can bring in AJ, Brian. You can bring in CJ, GJ. You can bring in new guys. I mean, that team is going.

Brad Berry. The NFC East is gettable. Yeah, very. I mean, they should be the favorite going into this year. Most. The NFC East is gettable. Yeah. Very little. I mean, they should be the favorite going into the year. Most people are picking them, right? I picked them, you know, a few months ago maybe. But, I mean, this is another move that just, I mean, how he's doing everything right, man.

Okay. And I think their fan base has to be pumped. Just a few years back, they won a Super Bowl. They were eating horse poop in parades. Hell, yeah. The statue was put up. It was blown up completely. And now it's a whole new world. They won a Super Bowl. They were eating horse poop in parades. Statue was put up. It was blown up completely and now it's a whole new world. What's that, pal?

Who was eating horse poop? Bunch of johns out there. Not the players? No. There was people climbing the poles. Philadelphia having a celebration is just awesome to think about. Kelsey had that fit on. Didn't they grease the poles?

They did. They're always greasing the poles in Philly. It's true. Only in Philly. I've been there. I've been there. All right, let's get back to the brand-new free agents. We move on.

Duke Johnson, a running back who came into fame, I believe with the Browns, has been cut from? Bills. Bills? Is it the Bills? I don't know. It looks like a blue team. I'm learning where a lot of guys are, by the way, through these cuts.

And there's a lot of people that I would like to apologize to I never heard of. But if you're a wide receiver and, you know, you still got some, you can go. Come on to Indianapolis. Yes. Green Bay. Come on, Devin Allen. Just released from the Philadelphia Eagles. Don't love that necessarily.

Why are they cutting him? I thought we had a guy who's fastest on earth. Maybe another Tyree Kill out there. So bring him to Indianapolis. Let's keep it moving. There's Anthony Harris of the Eagles getting cut. CJ, GJ being traded from the Saints to fill that in. Tim Boyle.

Fox 8. David. David Blah goes from fumbling to snap to beating out Tim fucking Boyle. Wow. I'm a Blah guy, so I'm okay with this. Love you, Tim Boyle, but it's time to move on. Tim Boyle, I don't think, did anything good for the Lions whenever we were watching. No.

But I would like to say, love the name Tim Boyle. I think it's a UConn guy, too. Yeah, he is. Yeah, TB12. Shout out. His claim to fame was Rodgers liked him. Aaron got him a job, yeah. Yeah, bingo. Because his UConn guy too. Yeah, he is. Yeah, TB12, shout out. His claim to fame was Rodgers liked him. Aaron got him a job. Yeah, bingo.

Because his UConn stats were brutal. He's like 18 for 40. Aaron's got a lot of us jobs. Sure. Knots fucking couldn't help us hang on to serious. Remember we had State Farm there for a little bit. Oh, yeah, true. We had State Farm for a day.

Then he had to go get immunized and we lost that. I don't think that and we lost that. I don't think that's what lost that. I don't think that's what lost that deal. I believe it was how we read that thing. Yeah.

Hey, tell the crew in the back to shut the fuck up. Hey, Mac, why don't you get your dogs to shut their fucking mouths while you're reading that? Okay?

Sorry. Try to sell insurance. We have tested the read. The read is good. It doesn't need any ad libs. It doesn't need tested the read. The read is good. It doesn't need any ad libs. It doesn't need any remixes. The read is good. You're right.

They're 100% right. They're much more professional than us. I love Jake from State Farm. Yeah, they're still going. I love all their commercials. They are still doing their business very well. Fucking Bugle Boys. But there was zero chance of this particular show staying directly on that script.

And they didn't know that going in. Thus, Aaron Rodgers got us that particular job. We ruined it. Tim Boyle got the job. He's no longer on that script. And they didn't know that going in. Thus, Aaron Rodgers got us that particular job. We ruined it. Tim Boyle got the job. He's no longer on the team. Let's hope he gets somewhere else. Mohamed Sanu, great athlete, never really finds a home anywhere. Why is that?

Did you ever play against Mohamed Sanu? Played against Sanu, yeah. What is the deal? He's a great player, isn't he, from Rutgers? You know, at those skilled positions, man, once you start to get up in age, just like most of these front office people, they want to just give those young guys an opportunity to see what they got.

They kind of feel like they know what they have with Sanu, so maybe he'll get picked up with a contender or someone down as the year starts. But that's kind of what happens in receiver rooms, safeties, corners. It happens a lot. And if you're past five years in the NFL, if you're on the roster for opening week, your salary is guaranteed to you. So a lot of these older guys that are getting cut doesn't mean that their season's done

or they might even end up with the team that they were just. Yeah, re-sign right after the first game. I think it's year 10 for him, too. Yeah, so he's been around. I've played with Moe and Cincy. He's a stud. Like, if he's healthy, that dude, he's big, physical. Like, I always appreciated how he ran with the ball.

He'd catch the ball and try to run through people. Also, he has a cannon. He can throw. Throw, kick. I think he can throw, kick. I think he can do it. He's a great athlete. He goes by the name Moe?

I mean, yeah. We called him Moe Sanu. Let's bring in Moe. He would be a good indie addition. Bill traded a second round pick for him. Great guy, too. He's with the Falconsy addition. Bill traded a second-round pick for him. Great guy, too. He's with the Falcons when Matt Ryan won the MVP. All right, Mo.

Welcome to Indy, pal. We'll see you Monday of week two. Funches on the road again from the Lions. He was playing late in the fourth quarter. Kind of understood and saw that one coming. He moved to tight end. He was a wide receiver. Brett Kern being on the road.

He's going to the Bills, I think, personally. Sam Martin, another pun punter he's also out there oj howard is that oj howard yeah yeah bill's got him surprising young guys yeah really they uh they ate three million dollars on that cut i believe yeah was he healthy throughout camp? Yep. Really? So was he going back to Tampa then? Someone will snatch him up. Somebody will kick the tires on him. Tyler Johnson has been released. That's crazy. 18.

We just saw a film of him. Tom Brady hit him on a fourth and three against the Colts this past week in the first drive, first series. He's starting. He is now released on the road. Wonder what that's all about. Come to Indianapolis. Phillip Lindsey, speaking of Indianapolis,

that guy just a couple years ago was the guy, wasn't he? Oh, yeah. Now he was getting third string reps with the Colts. He was battling for that third spot, and then now he's being released. Let's assume somebody will sign him because now running backs are stable by committee. Somebody's going to fit in. He's going to fit in somewhere.

They said special teams probably led to that because he doesn't play them. And also we got Jonathan Taylor and Naeem Hines. Yeah. So those are two guys. So whoever's getting that one spot is the third guy who has to play special teams. Phillip Lindsay doesn't play special teams. Phillip Lindsay's been a starter since day one in the NFL. Probably has never taught how to fucking cover a punt or a kick in his entire life.

Kind of goes against him, but he was a superstar early. Then Coleman, Ward, and Shelton. Danny Shelton. Danny Shelton release. Big boy. Oh yeah, to Cleveland. A lot of brand new free agents. We'd assume

a lot of these guys get another opportunity somewhere. Maybe sign back to the practice squad or maybe back to the team after year one. But there's a lot of guys who are going to be able to pick where they go next, AJ. Yeah, I guess. I mean, there's definitely some big names year one. But there's a lot of guys who are going to be able to pick where they go next, AJ. Yeah, I guess. I mean, there's definitely some big names out there. It's always a bit surprising. And teams are, you know, they'll be making moves, what, all the rest of this week.

Yeah. You're not safe, though. That's the scary thing. If you're like, oh, I made the team, here we go. No, you're not safe because now there's a pool of 800,000 players where they can come try to scoop you up and get you out of there. I said in the first hour that there's somebody tonight who's leaving the facility, texting her family, friends, even probably the positional coach.

Don't do it. My dream has come true. Thank you. All those long hours and sacrifices and pain and long hours and roads, everything. I made it, Mom. I made it, Dad. Hey, high school coach, fuck, I want to let you know before everybody else,

I made it. Then they're going to bed tonight. They're going into the facility tomorrow. They're getting a peanut butter and maybe a banana sandwich or whatever the fuck they want to eat. Sure. And they're just sitting at a table, and they're having a conversation with everybody look at this dream come true dream come true and then while they're walking to either team meeting position meeting a special teams meeting

they get a tap on short and we never see that motherfucker ever again nope ever again person's gone tough business tough business yeah thing i've sent all the texts back. Yeah. Just kidding. I just want to let you know. Never mind. I learned quickly that this ain't game anymore. This is business. It is. So there is some questionable times here for the next few days. So if you're a family member or a friend of somebody that is on maybe 46 to 53 on a roster,

have to have some self-awareness, let's not pressure them to let you know if they made the team or not because they might have today. Tomorrow is a very different story. Yeah, and that Logan Ryan was just cut as well. So, like, when those guys are out there and you're a safety on another team and you know where you're on the team, you see that, you're like, oh, fuck. Here we go. These are some big names getting released.

This has to be the guaranteed salary thing. You know, it's numbers game sometimes. Sometimes somebody surprises you, you know, have a great camp. And, you know, you may be heavy in one position. Obviously, you see an opportunity to pick somebody else up on another position. It's tough, man. But, you know, a lot of careers will end today. But then a lot, you know, you got guys like James Harrison that was cut, you know,

six, seven times and then end up obviously having a Hall of Fame caliber career. Never the end, man. Never the end. He can keep going. Yeah, keep grinding. The old guys. D-Bud said it. If you're an older guy and you're not an every-down player, you have to play special teams. They don't have room for you on the team as being

a player that may play 50% or less of the plays on offensive defense. You better be playing some special teams. How about the $500,000 difference in vet men, rookie men too? When you're talking about teamer or third string linebacker or tight end that's playing special teams, like the new CBA making it that big of a difference, I think the intentions were pure. The intentions were, oh, the veteran men will be more because you've earned it.

You know, you put in your time, you've earned this whole thing. But what it became immediately is, oh, I've got two old fucks. I've got an extra million dollars. I can go do this entire thing. So at this position, covering a kick, covering a punt, blocking for anything, can I pay $500,000 less at this? Yeah, I can certainly do that. So the shaping of the roster and the salary cap, which isn't real,

but it is real for 30 to 53, 26 to 53. That is pretty fucking real, the salary cap. They hold it over everybody's heads. It's the top 20 that they kind of dance with. So that type of stuff is going in and decisions being made today as well. I also think today really emphasizes when you talk about how when a new regime comes in and they don't give a fuck about like the viking the vikings cut three guys today that they drafted and you know like the top four rounds a couple years ago yeah exactly and then another

guy they cut i think was a second or a third round pick like they're just cutting bait with all these guys that they didn't draft we can talk about patronage draft picks too right because i saw a stat come through in a group text it was a. You guys have had 13 first or second round draft picks over the last couple years? I think only two of them are on the team. That goes back to Chandler Jones. Why isn't Bill going to combine? He's going to these workouts out in Millinore.

I think it's because he knows that he's not going to end up paying these guys what they're worth. I mean, Chandler Jones won a Super Bowl, one of his best players on our defense, and we shipped him to Arizona the next year, so I think that's why, usually our defense, and we shipped him to Arizona the next year. So I think that's why, usually. Cole Strange, though. They said he's doing good.

Yeah, Cole Strange. He's doing great. Here's Bill Barnwell. William Barnwell, by the way, been around the game a long time. He has. He knows. Hey, Bill, we appreciate your service. The Patriots had 13 first, second, and third-round picks

between 2018 and 2020. Right now, it looks like they went two for 13. Oh, yeah. Wow. What's that all? Are you losing faith? I mean, I read some of those stats, and that guy's just, you know, he's painting a picture.

Sonny Michel actually helped us win the – Yeah. He's the only one to score in the Super Bowl in 2018. I mean, and the whole entire playoff run he had was unbelievable. You're saying Bill Barnwell is throwing a Bill pot there? Is that what you're saying, pal? Yeah. I mean, Kyle D're saying, Bill? Yeah. I mean, Kyle Duggar, definitely a hit.

I'm glad he didn't just say some bum from D2. Damien Harris guy. Uh-huh. Dalton Keene, this guy. Dalton Keene. He was an H-back. You were excited about Dalton Keene. He looked good in training camp this year. Real bummer.

Bum to see him go. Nikhil Harry hurts. Yeah, Nikhil Harry hurts. And, you know, I hate to bring it up, but Michael Lombardi said Nikhil Harry was a can't-miss wide receiver, so that's why Bill took him before DK Metcalf and AJ Brown. So you just said, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. And Debo Samuel.

You just said Bill Belichick might have had 13 draft picks, but Michael Lombardi's at least one of them. Not at least. He is Nikhil Harry. I mean, there are people in New England who will never forgive Michael Lombardi for that draft pick. I'm not kidding. It comes up every year will never forgive Michael Lombardi for that traffic. I'm not kidding. It comes up every year.

Publicly? Oh, yeah, publicly. He said Nikhil Harry is the can't-miss wide receiver of that draft class. And he probably said, I told Bill. Yeah, Deebo Samuel came to Gillette. He said, come draft me, Bill. A.J. Brown grew up a New England Patriots fan. He also wanted to go to New England.

And I'm not going to say this because it worked out with Mac Jones, but there's a chance if we do draft one of those guys, Tom Brady doesn't leave. Was Lambeau still in the organization? No, but he does the consulting for Bill every year. And Lambeau told everybody that he said this, I assume. Oh, yeah. There's actually an article headline. I get sent to the same Patriots group thanks I have every single year

before the draft. And it's Michael Lombardi's article about to kill here. Jeez. It's alright, Lombo. Hey, when you step in a batter's box, you're going to get something wrong. He's 38 years in the NFL. Like Lombo said, you think I care? No, he doesn't. No, I don't.

Yell that by Al Davis. He was signing off. Patricia was signing off. Is Bill making picks these days? Oh, yeah. I forgot about that. You think Bill's lost a little bit of his hard edge up there? Wants to kind of hand it over to the dog, to Matt Patricia, to Lombardi? What do you think? I mean, it's going to be tough for Miss at the top this much,

obviously, without a guy like Brady in there, because Brady, you know, he covers up a lot of that. But – Interesting note there. And the other part is the first-round picks that we're picking out are 30, 31, 28. It's not like we're picking in the top 10 or the top 15 every year. Tomlin said, I ain't going to lose enough games to get a guy that looks like you to chase young. Exactly.

That was a hilarious line. I ain't never going to lose enough games to get a guy like you. What a hilarious line from Tomlin's brain. He's walking up to Chase to go talk to Chase, you know. Hey, big fan, man. And Tomlin's brain just immediately goes, yeah, you're too much of a fucking monster to follow. You're 27 where we're going to be, 26 where we're going to be.

How many times do you think Tomlin has had that thought? It was like, God damn, that guy would be a great stealer. Oh, so never going to make it to where we are. had that thought. I was like, God damn, that guy would be a great stealer. Also, never going to make it to where we are. Is he ever going to be affordable enough for us to fucking pay him? Which is what I guess

he would tell me in warmups. I'm going to wait until you're old and cheap is what he told me. It was a hilarious line. Remember he explained to us, there's just some people where I feel like

they physically have to deteriorate enough to get into the price range that I will be willing to pay them and you were one of them I thought that was a massive compliment but that is real about the Patriots and these teams that are historically great yeah they're not up there in the top 10 where they get a chance hey who's running four twos who's running four threes I get these guys

and that's why the parody of the NFL is the way it is it's a tough place to play too like it's a tough environment to I guess adjust to um I. I was one of those hot picks in 2009 and went in there and struggled. It was kind of a transition. I drafted with Julian Edelman, Pat Chung, McCourty was the year after, so it was kind of that next run, that next dynasty. We had young

Josh Boyer in there trying to run a room with 14-year vet Sean Springs, 8-year vet Lee Bottin, so it was tough. But playing in that environment like in that building very very different than every other organization in the league and um so yeah it's just a vibe um I mean do they make you anxious or what what is it I mean it's like you know every day it's a good thing you know looking back on it in retrospect when I got to other places I'm like damn now you understand it as you get older in the league

but it's tough it's tough you know it as you get older in the league. But it's tough. It's tough. You can obviously get in that doghouse. Practices, like the intensity of practices, the amount of things that change from day to day, week to week. You can have a bad, shit, Wednesday, Thursday practice. You may have been coming in that week as a starter. Going into Sunday, you're coming off the bench. Or you may not even be suiting up.

Like, that doesn't happen around the NFL, you know what I mean? So it's a different level of pressure, but some people thrive in it, some people don't. So it's always situations are situational, but it's a tough place to play. And his practices are nothing like everybody else's, right? Like, if he thinks, from what I've been told, and I might be wrong, I've never been in there, but if, like the smallest, simplest thing, if the center and guard, right guard,

are missing a block one week, like they will run that Indy thing for fucking ever. Like as most teams will have like, hey, we got a five minute period we're going to do working on this, let's get this better. Like Bill will hammer, hey, we will not end today's practice until you two motherfuckers figure it out basically. Where other teams have, hey, it will hammer, hey, we will not end today's practice until you two motherfuckers figure it out, basically.

Where other teams have, hey, it's Wednesday, so we got first and second down. We got this, we got this, we got this. And every day is like this. From what I've been told, like, Bill will change the practice schedules if he sees a glaring issue and basically be like, we are not moving on until we fucking fix this. And it seems like that is a smart decision i don't

come from the football world i didn't grow up in it but that feels like a way to keep things fresh i think you hammer home points that way for sure and it kind of gets out of the groundhog's day is that an accurate take on what happens up there or is i oh for sure not only as a team but even as an individual i give you a funny story my rookie rookie year, last play of the game, first play – I mean, first game, Monday night football, my first game. Last play, you know one of those plays where you throw it and people are tossing it. Annexation of Puerto Rico.

Tight end catches it. It's an offensive play. Tight end catches it. I run full speed. I bounce off of him. He pitches it back to, like, T.O., T.O., stiff arm. I miss four tackles on one play. So, Belichick comes in

the next the next morning on monday like you know and we low lights every you can blow a team out 56 to 7 you're gonna have low lights on monday so i know my play is coming it's the last one so i'm sitting in there and he says i've been coaching in this league for 40 years whatever whatever you say i've never seen a player miss four tackles on one play. So the next, like, four weeks after practice is completely over, I got to go throw my full pass on, and I got to go tackle Ben Jarvis, Green Ellis. Like, three, four, like, full live tackling

until, like, I have a good week where I'm getting them down. So that's how it is. It's a level of accountability. Well, it's hilarious because he just says, says hey here's an obvious glaring thing yeah so we are going to fix this yeah so this never happens again and that's like just at your position last play of the game whatever the case he treats that with everything that is why he's the guy and it's does everybody else to do that though yeah that's what I'm saying why doesn't everybody do that it's tough to do that once again you Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Why doesn't everybody do that? It's tough to do that. And once again, you've got to have buy-in from the top.

So, like those guys that I mentioned, you know, Tom Brady's obviously incredibly important to that success. But having those other – the Devin McCourty's, the Patrick Chung's, the Julian Edelman's, those type of guys. The Matt Slater's. Having those type of guys in the buildings and all those different, you know, units, offensive, defense, special teams, that matters as well. And then when that level of accountability

is from the top down, like Brady's getting, he's getting called out in low lights too. I never saw Lux not getting called out to me and Cam Newton's not getting called out to me. Those are my other teammates as quarterbacks. Brady, he's getting called out. We can hit a fucking wide open tight end.

Maybe we can win some games this year. So you're sitting there as a rookie like, oh shit, I got shit real. So, but like I said, in retrospect, you look at it. Look how happy this guy is. I love it. Yeah, I love hearing that stuff. That's why it's lasted this long. Is that because of that?

It's also why it might not last ever again. Well, I don't know because, you know, when we pull up those... These dudes don't get coached these days, right? When you go to other places, it's tough to take that shit. When you see other coaches struggle with that. You've got to have accountability, man. It is.

It's every second thing. It's like having kids. If you give up an inch, like, hey, that's it. They're going to be – you can't give up anything. Say it, AJ. How you do anything. It's how you do everything. Yeah.

Yeah. And I think the modern generation, it's not like hard coaching is the way to reach them. It's exhausting to do that. To do – like get deep on it every day after practice. Like it's exhausting, man, mentally the way to reach them it's exhausting to do that to do like get deep on every day after practice like it's exhausting man mentally and physically for the people doing it i know just as as a parent like you could easily take the easy way out and be like oh yeah i'll i'll act like i didn't see him doing something like that or whatever but no like you need to go and take care of it bill's just spinning that whistle yep i'm never seeing fucking the guy miss four tackles on a play ever again. That hit. Let's go. Let's do another one.

It's it's very that's full commitment from Bill Belichick. His entire being is that I wonder if it will continue. He's evolved, I guess, is what they're saying. Yeah, definitely. And change his whole style. But is it going to be able to be one that wins like they did when they did win the way they won? Because, I mean, every story that comes out i think to myself that is hysterical that sounds like the right thing to do but you're dealing with actual humans that have big egos have been around a long time and your body can only take so much the fact you're doing full tackle drills like the conditions after every practice too but

i mean the the benefit of it is and this is kind of the conversation you have when someone comes into the building, it's like when you run out of the tunnel on, you know, Sunday, like you feel like you're going to win the game. You feel like the other team. And then other teams, they go above and beyond to try to over-prepare for, you know, Patriots week. So, once again, this is when Brady was there as well. So, that's obviously you can't just not account for the greatest quarterback

all the time. So, maybe he has changed some things now. But that's obviously you can't just not account for the greatest quarterback all the time. So maybe he has changed some things now. But that's the benefit of it. When you walk out, you know you're more prepared than the other team. You know you're more conditioned than the other team. So, you know, it's kind of a necessary evil. Yeah, you throw a ball into six people, it's going to be a pain. Yeah, it is going to be a problem.

But that's another reason why it might be able to last, because it feels like Mac Jones, who's the quarterback, one of the top guys, has fully bought in. He spent the entire offseason. And like the draft thing, it is very damning. But Bill also is able to say like, yeah, I fucked it up and then spent $150 million in free agency. He's getting guys that are proven in that he probably knows,

yeah, I can coach these guys the way that I've coached all these years and they're not going to go cry about it. And as far as practice goes, you remember when Jonas Gray scored four touchdowns against the Colts, and then he was late to the plane, and then he got cut? It's not even if you play bad in practice. You can play well in the game, and then on Monday. Yeah, but you can't miss the plane. You can't miss.

That is something. Yeah. I think he was late to practice, actually. I don't think he was late to the game. Can't do that. Yeah, yeah. I had somebody who was late one time because I was in jail. Can't do it.

I mean, I've never experienced someone. Scored four touchdowns. And 170 yards in his only game. That's the second time he fucking said that. Sorry. It was against Colts. It blew the shit out of him. But, I mean, I apologize.

Bro, how about LeGarrette Blount? LeGarrette Blount had. That was the playoffs. I think he had four in one game as well. Yeah, he had. I think he had 19 touchdowns that year, and he didn't go to the Pro Bowl. He was just running people over.

That was after he smoked with – Left. Left. In Pittsburgh, and nobody would pay him. So Bill was like, I'll give you $24. Come play up here. And he did. And he did.

And he fucking won the Super Bowl. In the most accountable holding place, New England, this guy that everybody said was a problem. He goes up there gets paid nothing and fucking just Why is everybody dumb?

I don't know. We will find out. He walked off the field. Julian Edelman He's pissed. What do you want the guy to do? Julian Edelman

He said he's healthy. Yeah. Really? Uh oh. This might be a Gronk type situation. Julian Edelman feels extremely better

after a year away from football and he's not rolling out an nfl return via zach cox n-e-n-s-n-e-s-n northeastern sports network hell yeah nice fucking zach cox knows the deal yeah we saw julian edmund a few times looks like he's in great shape i think he will always be in great shape what was his knee though had no yeah no cartilage yeah just sore. Like, that hurts like fucking hell. That's what that does. So if you're saying that, though, he's got to – I'm sure he's tested it a little bit.

You know, he's been working – obviously, he works out. He's in great shape, but he's probably been running around a little bit, changing directions, saying, okay, I still got this. You think he was the receiver in the 11-day vacation that Lombo was talking about? 11 days? Running on sand, too?

Running on sand, much better. Much better for the knees. Probably Amendola, too, because he just retired. What? Oh, what? Two receiver. Lombo said, if I know Tom, he had two receivers with him and a bag of balls whenever he went on this 11-day absence.

Yeah. That would be the two receivers right there, right? And they wouldn't say anything to anybody. Oh, no. Hell no. And didn't he say he'd only go back to New England? Is that what he said? He did.

Unfortunately, he was in Vegas for the Patriots-Raiders joint practice. Is his contract up or no? Is Wright still with him? I don't know if he still has the rights, but I know he sold those Foxborough Forever shirts, and he acted like that. He was never going to leave New England. Yeah, but he didn't feel the way he feels now.

At the time. Situation is situational. At that point, he didn't think he could ever run a fucking seven again. Now, he's all the way back. Eleven's taken. Someone's wearing it. I mean, obviously, he can come back and have it. I'm not saying it's a Cam Newton, Pat the Patriot situation.

He's definitely going to Tampa if he comes back. Yeah, if he comes back, yeah. Is that why? He's going to Tampa. It's warmer weather. Is that why the surprise cut happened? Tyler Johnson. Or like Kansas City or Green Bay, something like that. No, he's going to Tampa. Remember's warmer weather. Is that why the surprise cut happened? Tyler Johnson. Or Kansas City or Green Bay, something like that.

No, he's going to Tampa. Remember what? Warm weather, yeah. Every drunk and everybody who's this guy said, warmer weather, you should see how good, you feel so much better every day. Your joints aren't sore waking up. Tampa's a big let's get the guys a Sunday team.

Like, hey, let's just get the dudes a Sunday. He's going to New England if he comes back. I mean, who cares? Does he think he'll a Sunday. He's going to New England if he comes back. I mean, who cares? Does he think he'll get a big number if he goes to New England? Who fucking cares? What is your problem? I love Jules.

You don't like Jules? I love Jules. You just posted the fucking picture from the Falcons. Exactly. I love him. That was in 2016. What is your problem? I love him.

I love him to death. He wouldn't even come to the preseason game because Tom Brady was playing. I'm like, don't you think you should at least give him a hey. Thank you for all the fucking happiness. No. The only reason I'm like that is because of Tom. The only reason that I feel that way is because his mantra his entire career is the next ring.

That's his favorite one. He's instilled that in every single New England fan in the goddamn nation. Why don't you go and say your thanks to the God that brainwashed all of you into believing that particular thing. Hey, Tom, thanks for fucking doing what you did to my life. The amount of parades and happiness that we had because of what you accomplished alongside your teammates, I would like to say thank you for that.

Don't you think you should have had a sign maybe this weekend? You would have had a chance to be on the field thanking Tom for everything he has done. Don't you think you should have had a sign maybe this weekend? You would have had a chance to be on the field thanking Tom for everything he has done. Don't you think that's what you should have done for Tom Brady? I'm not fucking thanking Tom Brady while he's got pirates on his helmet and a goddamn buccaneer symbol across his chest. Okay, I'll thank

him when he's done, of course. And when he comes back to New England and we retire 12, I'll thank him immediately. But when he's playing for a different team, the same way Tom Brady is him and his team against everybody else, that's how he and Bill have kind of taught New England to be. It's the Patriots against everybody else.

It doesn't matter if Edelman or Gronk or Brady or any of the number of guys who have come through New England, done well, and then left. You don't really give a fuck about them because they don't play for the Patriots anymore, and that's just how it is. Vinatieri. Vinatieri, exactly. Very rude. That guy gave you your first.

He gave more than that, two of the three, but you have to understand that. Where's he at now, Vinny? He's just out in the woods lifting hits. Yeah, probably hunting somewhere. He's killing something. Does Jules have first-round refusal on which team he goes to if he comes back? I would assume, yeah, he gets the opportunity to decide that, I think, right? If he retired?

Yeah, if he comes back. Like for me, for instance, if I was to come back and punt for the Buffalo Bills, which everybody who's very kind said that on the internet, it would be an honor to play for the Buffalo Bills organization. I'm not sure business-wise I'd be able to do as such or want to sacrifice my brain into caring about punting a ball again, and it might conflict everything.

But I have had those thoughts, and I thought it was quite an honor when people would tweet me that. And Brett Kern is the right guy for the job because he's a fucking robot, that guy. Or if I was going to go kick for Tampa a couple years back, or last year a team that called me if I was going to go do that, the Colts would have had to trade my rights for me to do that I wonder if Julian still has any years left on his contract

or if he's completely up well even if he does we saw us at Gronk I mean Bill really does not give a fuck yeah he doesn't get he you know sold his rights to Tampa he doesn't care I don't care give us a seventh rounder for Julian yeah he's quarterback from Kent State you think I give a fuck that would be funny if Bill sold that to himself In the meeting room He's with Matt Patricia, Joe Judge, and Kraft And Kraft's like hey Bill what are we going to do with Jules We love Jules he wants to come back

Fuck Jules Get him the fuck out of here I really don't think he cares Julian's only coming back to Foxborough Foxborough forever That's his thing I still think Edelman's an unbelievable player, but we have like three to four slot receivers that we're paying a boatload of money.

It's like you've got to kind of give it to them before you let Julian come in. All right, before this hour ends, I would like to talk about the Amazon Prime football that debuted on the internet with Russell Wilson's video. This thing's a pancake. Have you seen this ball that Amazon Prime is introducing to the world alongside Wilson? Now, Russell Wilson, I'm talking about Wilson

the Duke-miker. Do we have a Duke in the office? Yes, we do. We should grab a Duke. I guess Amazon has created a new football. I don't know if this is for the future or if it's just a... Hey, talk about Amazon.

For who? For the NFL. To play in the Thursday games? Yes. They're using it on Thursday nights. No. Strictly for Thursday nights. Things are fucking submarine.

Is this the one Justin Herbert threw? Yes. It is. Very thin. Would be horrendous to kick. As soon as I saw it, that's the worst ball I've ever seen to kick. So the Duke is the greatest ball of all time. Good toss. Had a baby.

The Duke is – look at how thin that thing is. It looks like a deflated football, honestly. Oh. Oh, and it's fake. No, that was real. No, that was real. That was real. That was 100% fake.

Whoa. No, no, no. Is this just a souvenir to give away? That ball doesn't exist, I don't think. Go back. This seems like a hole-in-one type thing. Yeah, see, I thought fake. Whoa. No, no, no. Is this just a souvenir to give away? That ball doesn't exist, I don't think. Go back. This seems like a hole-in-one type thing. Yeah, see, I thought the same thing when I first saw it. It's like throwing it into the jugs machine.

Throwing it into the moon, yeah. No, he does have a ball. It's a little tiny little baby Duke, it appears. Not as good as our baby Duke, but the NFL made one. And then... Accuracy. Dart. Wow, what a throw.

That was sick. Oh, you didn't see that? What? So they're doing the a throw. That was sick. What? So they're doing the fantasy files? That's real. They're doing the fantasy files? That's fucking real. Did you see how far the bag flew on Russ's?

Let's show Russ's, please. Russ's might be fake. That was real. I agree with Herbert. Russ's was real. Let me see Russ's. Russ's is real. I didn't see it Just like everything else

Everything else Russ does Is fucking real Hell yeah Obviously What'd he do though How about that Rolls Royce Was that real That was definitely real

How about his good man brand That he was wearing Was that real Sure That's the fat Old stupid Duke That everybody calls The best football of all time

And then here's the prime one Boom That one Give me that See a difference Why It looks like an Ozzy Rose football Kind of just a little bit smaller ball's on. And then here's the prime one. Boom! That one. Give me that. See a difference once. It looks like an Aussie Rose football, kind of just a little bit smaller. Giant sunflower seed.

Boom! Boom! Oh, that's real. Yeah. Holy shit, dude. And then he asked, he was like, hey, did you get that? Because it was the fucking greatest throw he's had. I see that last one again. Yeah, absolutely. What are you talking about? it was the fucking greatest throw he's had. I see that last one again. Yeah, absolutely.

What are you talking about? It's the greatest throw we've ever seen. That thing's like a torpedo. Yeah, he's got a cannon. I don't know how it didn't go through the pad, to be honest. Send Russell to the front lines with one of these. Boom, see ya. Seven to eight yards at his house.

Yeah, wherever that is that he's been training at and throwing stuff. Could kill a man with that football. Yeah, so that prime ball is something. All right, we need to take it serious. You see that fucking – probably going to be a deep ball. Yeah. That might break your ribs. That'd be a good gimmick.

Like they should be able to use the prime ball on like one-third down like every Thursday night. Yeah. Final five seconds, seven – if it's going to be last play in a tail Mary situation, prime ball for the prime time. Yep. Bring in this little tiny baby one and also nobody's allowed

to rush the passer. Nope. Because we have to see this. I'm going to read options with that. You can't see that shit. Who's this?

A little slight hand it's Matt Stafford he's through it. Stafford's got it too? I think so. They really. Oh he's throwing 100 yards. They really went all out

with this. God damn what's he doing? Easy 100. Definitely. Oh! His elbow is fine? Easy 100. Definitely. Oh! Oh, fuck! His elbow is fine! Easy 100.

His elbow is fine! Is that how he got throwers? Holy shit! What are we doing with all this? What are you talking about, dude? It's a prime football. This is just a good marketing scheme for Amazon. Oh, you sound like a marketer.

Yeah. What are you talking about? This is the future of football. It's a sound like a mark. Yeah. Mark. This is the future of football. It's a good throw by Matt. It was. All those guys. You see Russ. I mean, Justin Herbert.

I like to do Vortex football. Yeah. When Elway used to throw it out of the stadium. No, Vic too. Remember? Oh, yeah. Those commercials. Those were shit.

When is Aaron going to throw it? This is 20 years later. We got to do better than that. What? Like, that's what we, that was the standard set fucking 25 years ago. You're right. Michael Vick experience. Did you not watch it? Did you not watch it?

I don't want to run these videos back. You're saying, how does it get better than Russell Wilson knocking a bag eight yards? Russell Wilson threw that football 450 miles an hour. Okay. What's funny? This is bad. The Vortex were fake footballs. This is real, genuine

cahide. We can't play the old shit, right? The old fantasy files. Those fantasy files were awesome. Remember a guy reached through the fucking drywall? Chris Cooley. Andre Johnson. Caught two between them. Steven Jackson dives through the car.

Yeah. Mason Crosby hits the fucking clock and resets the time three times. Yeah, on campus. That was sweet. That was awesome. Yeah, I remember those days. That was a standard. Well, then soccer got a hold of it.

And I think Methy was literally juggling balls off the crossbar. Yeah, Dino was too, I think. From 20 yards away. And then Beckham knocked down three things from like 75 yards away. So you're saying it's kind of copycat league? I expect more from Amazon.

Alright. We'll be back in the next hour. That was Darius J. Buckley that said that. If anybody's listening, that is an algorithm. I expect more. Accountability. That's what I'm saying. You algorithm. I expect more. Accountability. That's what I'm saying. You're drafting the Patriots.

Accountability. Goddamn right. All right, we'll be back in about five minutes or so. Hour three, we'll take phone calls. Hell yeah. We'll chit-chat about any of the more releases that have been announced, the brand-new free agents. We'll talk about Jameis Winston and Demario Davis

doing incredible motivational speeches before games. There's a lot to talk about, including Baker Mayfield having a casual conversation with somebody, becoming national news. We're back in about four or five. We'll see you then. You are 46,000 people. So, giveaway? I'm not doing it.

Might as well. PMS is dead. Okay, hashtag PMS is dead. Hashtag PMS is dead. Take a screenshot right now. Hashtag PMS is dead. And put your cash tag in there, obviously, so that we can pay you out in an efficient fashion. If you win, we'll give 10 people $400. Hell yeah.

You should say something nice to somebody that's been released from a team today. There we go. Wish them luck. Wish them luck in whatever they do in the future. Maybe recruit them to your team because they are brand new free agents. So all you have to do is take a screenshot there from earlier. Use the hashtag PMSIsDead. Put your hashtag in there and say something nice to somebody

that maybe got released and recruit them to your team i need to relax okay because there's some people out there that don't understand the modern business world welcome and there's some people that have no idea i was really enjoying that last night everybody telling me i was dead and where our company was done so and. And it's like, why is everybody saying this? I honestly didn't know. I was waiting for you to text us and be like, hey, guys, unfortunately, I'm going to have to let all you guys go. Don't you

even start, Darius. You haven't even got here weekly. Okay, we'll cut that thing. We're going to have to. You're here on Wednesday, Thursday in the studio. No more. Cap cuts. Hopefully. Look at this. Hey. Every Wednesday and Thursday. We couldn't even spell the full word out. Yeah. cuts. Hopefully. Look at this. Hey! Every Wednesday and Thursday. We couldn't even spell the full word out. Yeah. That's where we're at right now.

Can't afford those letters. Every Wednesday and Thursday. That's going to be a blast. Oh yeah. You know what else is going to be a blast? AJ Hawk. I have an announcement to make on the state of this dying company. Damn it. It's not funny. I had a couple people text me, ask me, what happened with Sirius?

I was like, I have no clue. The deal was up. He's been saying it for months. The deal was up at a certain time. That's what I'm saying. I feel like the actual viewers of this show and even listeners of this show, this is not a surprise at all, I think, right? No.

No way. No problems. No ill beef with anybody. But literally, could see it coming from mild down literally week one yeah on serious it was like oh these people that listen to this show hate us yes understandable by the way you do what you gotta do you guys listen to what you listen to we're very different but not a lot of throughout the whole thing there's no beef at all it's just kind of expected but even though we are dead now and we're only on youtube.com forward slash theepadmagnificent show,

and we have a podcast, obviously, that comes out every single day that somehow still gets downloaded by people, and we're very thankful for people that... Really? For now. Some people, it's the only way they consume the show. I know. I had a lot of people tweet me...

I was like, you don't even really know the show then if you haven't seen the whole thing, but hey, it's cool. Yeah, so you were also surprised by everybody that was like, oh, no, SiriusXM is going to be dead. It's like, man, I feel like the SiriusXM show is very different than the YouTube show. And the podcast is obviously a cut down of all of it. And we appreciate the people that download the fucking podcast. Like, you are the best. And there's people that only consume shit via audio.

So, like, that's never been my style, but I understand those people exist, so that'll still go on without a hitch. Nothing will change. But we have a rather large announcement, AJ Hawk. Oh, shit. Uh-oh. Hey, we have, like, a video game coming out tomorrow.

What? Whoa. Yeah, a video game coming out tomorrow. It's fucking awesome. Holy shit. We've been playing said video game in office for the last

couple months I'd say at this point to kind of beta test. Work through it all. Yeah, beta testing through it all. It's on the phone.

It is not a game that will be on Xbox or anything. It will be on your phone. If you have an iPhone obviously it will be I think the best. Bigger the screen

probably for the best but nonetheless can play on a smaller one it is a fucking great game and it's coming out tomorrow let's go

I'm very proud of it you should be very excited about it and I think it's gonna be I think people are gonna love it we didn't create it no

concept definitely everything like that but the people that went in and built this fucking thing so talented yeah did an incredible job so impressive it is graphics yes it is very very nice we are way too lucky that we get introduced to these people way too lucky for the opportunity

but i will say we fucking i think killed it with said thing and it comes out tomorrow AJ Hawk. I can't wait to see the world's reaction to it Can you describe any of the gameplay or how it works or what? It's all surprise, okay, you're fine. I know you won't be able to play it. Okay, cuz you do have to use your fingers Yeah, cuz it is on your fucking face. Fucked. I'm not a big gamer on my phone, but I could play this one I'm not a big gamer on my phone But I can play this one Actually yeah It is rather I don't know if you'll be great at it

But you can play Like for instance I'm the worst in the office at this game By far Because you play the least amount of games on your phone Yes I think there is a Benefit to being a gamer and playing games on your phone, but I can still play and enjoy.

So that's why I think it's a home run. That's why I think it is. I enjoy playing it, and I'm not great at it. That's great. That's why I think it's a winner. Would it be like every state or just the FanDuel states? How does that work? So I'm not 100% sure how it'll go out until tomorrow.

We will certainly make that announcement. It's not just sports gambling states. FanDuel is a large part of this, though, with us. An introduction for this whole thing. So it's more than just the sports gambling states. But FanDuel is certainly a part of it. Yeah, I think it's the FanDuel fantasy States that can do that, which is 30 plus. Just wait.

Hey, we've said too much already. It is going to be – I've been looking forward to this for a while. This has been a tough one not to – you know, right into the microphone as soon as I see it. A new update comes through. We're beta testing in the office. A new update comes through and we're all like, oh, oh. Did you see – like it just – it feels like it's going to do well and we're very like oh did you see like it just it feels like it's gonna do well and we're very very thankful hashtag pms is dead let's answer the phones here

on the 5rng phone line yeah sports involved no they're a company we've said too much we don't want their blood money we've said too much already we're giving away too much what if they want to offer it this is like yesterday Whenever we were talking We were talking about announcing AJ Being weekly in the studio Which will be happening We did a big announcement yesterday

It's probably going to be on Tuesday So you know you're watching You're watching the show piece together And as I'm building up to announce That AJ is going to be in studio once a week, Diggs goes, D-butt? You talking about D-butt? That's happening tomorrow.

That's happening tomorrow. That's currently what's taking place with this video game every single time we continue to talk about it. Yeah, absolutely. So does anybody want to get one last thing in about it? It's really fun. It's really fun. Addicting. Good luck.

In a good way. The Raiders just made a big move. I believe it's a notable. The Raiders are waiving former first-round pick Alex Leatherwood per source. They tried to trade him to everyone. Got 32 no's. Ian Rappaport kind of burying Alex Leatherwood here a little bit. No reason for that.

Recently drafted Alex Leatherwood here a little bit. No reason for that. Recently drafted Alex Leatherwood, right? 2021, number 17 overall. Played him at guard last year, drafted him as a tackle. Yeah, that's out of Alabama, big boy. So this is similar to what we were chatting about earlier with new regime. It is very easy to accidentally say, hey, we have no loyalties to you. So if you're not holding up your end of the – you are being judged exactly how a fourth-rounder is being judged,

a seventh-rounder is being judged, because we've been given the green light by the owner here to build this how we see fit as opposed to the last group. Let's assume he gets picked up. I don't know how many first-round offensive linemen end up as free agents in the world that we live in today. But it is something that new regime, new look, new feel, I don't want to say no loyalty, but really, honestly,

less than in any other situation. And this was, I remember this pick. This was a big reach that everyone was talking about. I think Gruden made, and he flamed out of his spot. But first-round talent, so he was at least a second, third-rounder on some people's board, I would assume. So hopefully he lands on his feet. But, wow, that's fully guaranteed, though.

They have to eat $7.9 million against their cap. Jesus. So they're going to have to pay him one to move on. Ari Mirov started tweeting about Raiders' first-round picks from 2019 to 2021. Jonathan Abram in 2019, fifth-year declined. Josh Jacobs, 2019, fifth-year declined. to 2021 uh jonathan abram in 2019 fifth year declined josh jacobs 2019 fifth year declined uh klein for cleland yeah there's another reach number four or five overall fifth year declined clemson damon arnett cut henry rugs the third cut alex otherwood cut this is very much a uh

hey i don't understand what was promised to you in the past and what you're supposed to be but if you ain't doing what we need you to do, or if you're even questionable on doing it, we are going to move on and kind of put our fingerprints on this program all over it. Now, Mike Mayock will be remembered as a guy, I think, whose draft picks did not, you know? But he can say Gruden made those draft picks. Which everybody was saying at the time, right? Is Gruden in charge of everything? Yeah, it's tough with Claude and Farrell,

especially because they reached for him and then they took Crosby in the second or third round. And he was such an A, basically, now. Absolute stud. Moving on from people is a lot easier if you're the new GM. Oh, yeah, absolutely. I was told that in my negotiation. I'm a fucking punter.

We did not draft you. There is no loyalty between us. Okay. My response also pretty epic. Don't need, I don't know if it was ever delivered because at that point I had an agent who was doing a conversation who still got paid even though I got franchise tagged. And that was always confusing to me and Phil. So you actually didn't do your job. Didn't get a deal done.

I got franchise tagged. Now I still have to pay you. I don't understand how that works. But hey, business is to be done how business has always been done in that situation. But he's not, I'm not the only person

that has heard that from other people. We will continue to keep our eye on the situation. I'm just reading this headline here that is written on this piece of paper by Boston Conner this morning. Lou Holtz sent Brian Kelly several letters over his Notre Dame tenure to no response. This must have slipped through the cracks in the group text.

Sports Illustrated is reporting, while talking to reporters this past week, Lou Holtz shared that while Brian Kelly was at the helm, he wrote him several letters over his tenure as coach. Unfortunately, Holtz said, he never got a response. So, obviously, we got to go. Well, well, well. Looks like I wasn't fibbing when I said that Brian Kelly was a big old piece of shit.

He writes this guy letters and tries to tell him, hey, this is exactly what you need to do if you want to be a successful coach that knows your name. Okay, he didn't fucking respond to me once. You know how long it takes me to write these goddamn handwritten letters? I'm not typing them on a Macintosh. I'm not typing them on a Dell.osh. I'm not typing them on a Dell. I'm dipping my ink in the quill, and I'm writing

these handwritten letters. And what does he do? He says, hey, you know what, Lou? I won't write you a letter, but I'll send some kid into a cherry picker with 85 mile an hour winds, and I'll kill him. And then guess what? I still won't write that letter back. He can apologize, but it doesn't matter

because Lester Daines is the right guy. We got Marcus Freeman with 17.1 dogs at Ohio State. And I wouldn't be surprised if Brian Kelly gets run out of LSU because before too long, the boosters down there are going to find out what I found out. And listen, he's a big old steaming bag of shit. Coach, isn't it a chance that you with those handwritten letters that he never got them?

He was just checking his email? No, are you kidding me? If I fucking write a letter, it's getting on the head coach's desk, okay? You think Charlie Weiss never got my handwritten letters and Tyrone Willingham? Those guys always wrote back to me. Always. Oh, shit.

I might as well bake you in those letters. Thank you, Coach. That's your buddy Brady Quinn, okay? He knows I wrote a letter before every single Notre Dame home game. Had it in his locker. What did you say about the game where you're taking on your future brother-in-law, A.J. Hawk? Well, I said, good luck, Brady. Hopefully

you play like a guy like Carlisle Holiday. I'm sure you remember him. He was a great quarterback at Notre Dame. Led them to a lot of success. Of course, you know Brady. Unfortunately, they had good seasons and they got their asses beat in every single big post game bowl.

And we all remember the LSU Sugar Bowl where Demarcus Russell or whatever the hell his name was, he threw it all over the football field. And then AJ and the Ohio State Buckeyes beat the shit out of Lusitane in the Fiesta Bowl. Did you see the documentary about Manti Taylor? Seems like a really good guy

that the world really was rooted to. Manti's a sweet kid, okay? And I'm sick and tired, sick and tired of everybody sitting on him and making him feel like he wasn't a sweet kid because he was such a sweet kid. Everything that you want out of a student athlete at Notre Dame, he wasn't Catholic, which I don't love, but he's a sweet kid and he really got misrepresented in that.

I still feel bad for mankind. Did you write him a letter on how that shit came out? Once again, I couldn't write him a letter because he's not Catholic. If he was Catholic, I would have, but he's Mormon, and I don't know about his religion as much as I do about the Catholic religion, touchdown Jesus, all that kind of stuff. But, no, you know, I just, again, I feel bad because Manti was such a good player. He was the highest-rated linebacker recruit Notre Dame ever had, you know,

and look at him now. He's just a sad-oos on a beach down in Hawaii. What? Look at him now. He's just a sad oose on a beach down in Hawaii. What? Did you say sad oose? Oh, my gosh. Coach Holtz, I did not know you had oose in the repertoire. Yeah, of course. How do you think I recruited?

We got some bad ooses in my time. Offensive, defensive line. I stole a couple of them from SC and BYU and all those places. Jesus, man. I'll tell you, I did not expect that today. That's why as soon as I saw it on the sheet, I was fucking pumped. Is this real or is this not? It is real.

Very real. I mean, that goes into literally oh yeah right back i was grinning ear to ear when i saw that yesterday oh my god thank you baby jesus golly what if it was typewriter i thought you were gonna because what if lou never put a stamp on it and never got sent what if he doesn't know how to work Federal Express, dude? It's also possible that he never wrote the letters and he's misremembering. Come on. I hope that's not the case. We all do.

He was a great magician on television. Yes. He was a great coach on television. Great coach on a football field. Oh, yeah. Great lawyer in the courtroom. Everything that's happening there, we're just trying to potentially how it did go down. Exactly.

Thank you, Coach Lou Holtz. Thank you, Coach Lou. He's intro'd a few presidents, hasn't he, for rallies and stuff? Presidential medal. I don't know about a few, but, oh, fuck. How do you even go on from that? Cup one, damn it. He can still be president.

It's not fair. All right, so that is That is obviously He did say that He did say that I think Him and Bob Oh shit Richie Yes

That's a hell of a song That's a hell of a song Unbelievable Everybody We've given out some misinformation On today's program. We would like to let everybody know that that was not actual Coach Lou Holtz. Oh, no.

Just a couple moments ago. What? Everybody needs to know that that was not Coach Lou Holtz, and those are not actual quotes from Coach Lou Holtz. Like Ty does for Coach Sirianni, those are actual quotes. Coach Lou Holtz, you take a little bit more creative liberties, it does feel like. Yeah, but we can never be so sure. What? Yeah, but we can never be so sure. What?

Yeah, we can be. Well, like I said, I've kind of been saying this for quite some time now, and then boom, what do you know? He does think Brian Kelly's a piece of shit. Let's go to some phone calls. I think that's the only way to really change the subject here. Let's go to. It'd be tough for Coach to admit that.

Like, hey, I poured my heart out and wrote all these letters, and I got nothing back. How many? At what point do you stop writing a letter he said it was nine he wrote nine of them yeah so after the first six he goes all right lucky number seven is the one well i don't know maybe this son of a bitch will get back to me eventually if i do lucky number seven or eight maybe he will six isn't enough is nine enough is? Is 18 enough? Is 27 enough? What will it take to get this son of a bitch to respond to me?

Did you reference all the other letters prior in each letter that you, for the eighth time I am writing you, do you think he was reminded of that or no? Maybe. I mean, or he probably just said like, hey, listen, pal, I'm going to give you one more opportunity to respond to me. Otherwise, I'm going to the AD. And guess what?

I'm going to let everybody know you did kill that kid, okay? You did. Not only that, you're a piece of shit on the sidelines. I see you yelling. I see you screaming. I see you. You're not very Christian, okay? And what's that all about? I thought it was like the greatest Catholic institution

in the United States. You're saying this did potentially happen. I think so. Alright, let's go to the folks. No other show has that. No, no, no, no. Hey, do the Pat McAfee show thing. Okay. Are you going to have that?

I mean... Are you going to have that? Are you going to have that? I don't think so. I don't think so. You know, I don't think so. You've been doing that since high school.

I assume. Lou Holtz. Yeah. Right before that. So that one is just like, long time. That was just naturally long time. Oh yeah.

Cause you grew up Catholic school, right? Right. Notre Dame place. You're supposed to go to. Yeah. Wanted to go to Notre Dame, almost did go to Notre Dame. So you're doing that literally just as like your second language is almost Lou Holtz. Oh, I remember doing that in like sixth, seventh grade for like my older brother's friends and stuff like that.

Oh, man, it's a season. So every time he comes back, you get real excited. It's a little nostalgia trip for you as well. I mean, it's just, you know, it's something that, you know, you can kind of just slip in and out of at this point. It's a good thing we're off serious, too, because if you couldn't see Ty doing that, you'd think that was Lou talking into the microphone. You think that's why we got into some trouble?

Maybe. Sounded exactly like him. Definitely was Lou. Yeah. There was a moment where you kicked it back in mid-sentence, and I saw Darius's face realize what you were doing and start crying and laughing over there because he thought it was over.

And then, boom, we get right back into Lou Holtz out of nowhere. God, that's awesome. Ty had to love when Lou was on. Was it Friday nights when he would give the pep talk, like the halftime speech or pregame speech? Yeah, well, I used to go at it with Mark May, that son of a bitch, because he was a great offensive lineman at Pittsburgh. He could just say whatever he wanted to be.

Well, guess what? Dr. Lou knows what he's talking about too, pal. I've won a couple national championships. How many have you won, Mark? Not many. Not as many as me. He used to tear up a newspaper and put it back together. Used to.

His bumblebee speech that he gave one night I was watching while I was in college. I'll never forget just being like, that's a great motivational speech right there. I did see recently the newspaper bit. Some school had him come in and speak, and he was top tier form doing the newspaper bit again. He's fucking mid-season form right now? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I saw this maybe a week ago.

I don't want to ruin anything for anybody. But what? I'm sure you could buy one. No, I mean, it's a trick. You got to do the magic trick, right? Of course. Of course. You're right.

He rips it up and then puts it all back together. Someone did a sweet magic trick for you this weekend. I'm going to try to learn. It was awesome. David Rinaldi. Thank you for doing what you did. Great show, David. Great show.

There you go, David. That was that Puccelli he was walking around doing tricks with cards and shit and coins was he part of the program or was he just off the street

part of the program he was paid to do walk around do entertainment and he did god damn he put four bitcoins right on my forearm

right here and then one fell on my watch bitcoin insane well they were just little coins they had the bees on them

so he said it's worth 30 grand 19 19 grand, 10 grand, 5 grand, whatever it is. What is Bitcoin? Oh, here we go. Yeah.

Hey, Darius. Hey, excuse me, crypto guy. Where is that? I was... 19, below 20. Oh, no. Zoom out.

We're not worried. Still in on Bitcoin. Still in on Ethereum. Don't want to talk about it. Starbucks, actually, is going cashless later this year. Yeah, but Quills is the world still. Quills still takes cash. I had a visit to Quills this morning.

How about this, AJ? How about this? Darius is on his way I visited Quills this morning. How about this, AJ? How about this? Darius is on his way in to the office this morning. He goes, anybody need anything from Quills? I'm like, all right. Darius is doing a Quills run. Anybody need anything? We had just got done with our second Quills run of the morning.

He goes over there. I think you were introduced to a new drink, I believe, today. Yeah. How was it? It was all right. First trip there, maybe I'll go back a second time, give them a chance. Oh, they didn't sell you? What was it?

You didn't go back? I honestly don't know what it was. It looks like you ordered milk with a splash of coffee. Was it coffee? It was a cup of oat milk with a splash of coffee. Well, that's a different drink. You just got to find your drink. It does not.

Once you find your drink, it's the... Is that what it is? Okay. My peach tea. My peach tea. What's your drink, you just got to find your drink. It does not. Once you find your drink, it's the My peach tea. My peach tea. What's your drink, Diggs? Top of the line. Me? Cold brew. Little bit of all milk. Two Splendors. I almost went cold brew, too. Oh, it's good there. Darius, please tell everybody that we've been talking about this, that it's

heard about this place. Coolest looking people. Cool squad in there, but yeah, I'll go back yes hell yeah fuck you connor with your negativity connor's never been he judges this yes i've walked by that one i've peeked in and there are a lot of cool looking people in there but from what i've seen come back to the office i know their scones are like sponges and i know their coffee has barely any coffee corporate chill bucks mark okay he. He always goes there. That's right. I do always go there because they never fail.

And, you know, granted, they're going to have to let go of their insider in the NFL. But I still think that they have the legs to make a run. You're talking about Giorno? I'm talking about Giorno. Yeah. Giorno was at the US Open last night. Did you watch that? Serena was serving up slicing and dicing to end that thing. I didn't see the entire match.

I watched the intro back when she came out the diamonds she looked awesome obviously the first round atmosphere was electrifying bill quentin dr ruth yeah they were crushing she was smacking his little cheek telling him he's a good boy dr ruth knows that was the great great part. There's a lot of celebrities in the crowd. Tyson was, what's wrong? Billy Jr. Dr. Ruth. The announcers were laughing about Big Bill and Dr. Ruth. Everybody, as soon as they found out that William Clinton was sitting next to Dr. Ruth,

knew that you were going to break. She's a sex doctor, right? Yes. A what doctor? Sex doctor. What do you mean? She gives advice on sex and how to do it. Yeah, properly.

Old Slick Willie doesn't need her. That's what I was going to say. They were talking about tennis, dude. What are you talking about? But we know as soon as we saw the photo of Bill Clinton and fucking Dr. Rue. Sex doctor. We knew AJ was going to bring this up in the middle of the show. With the right hand.

That's what I mean. Easy. show. With the right hand. Yay. That's what I mean. Easy. Seriously. I'm not talking about her. Where's the cigar at? Both of them. Where's the cigar?

Everybody relax. Anyways, let's not talk about what was going on around the court. Let's talk about what was going on on the court. Serena fucking murdered this lady. From MNE. What is that? Montenegro? Is that what it is?

That's my guess. I don't know. I thought it was Maine when I was first watching. She's playing somebody from Maine here in the first round? I don't believe that was the case. Serena's serve got very hot, and she just started boom, boom, boom, and she was beating hell. And listening to the commentators,

and I don't watch tennis as much as I should apparently, they were saying this is the best Serena's played in like five years like this is a they said it was the best she'd been moving in a while yeah and i think she did gear up for this because this is kind of like her shit right the u.s open is the fucking serena tournament so hardcore if you are doing a retirement or she didn't want to call it a retirement i think she said uh evolution or something like that because she's going into a different chapter and after listening to her do an interview afterwards and handle everything that was going on that was a lot a lot was happening i think she's really fucking cool person like i think if you were to meet her and hang out with her i think you would enjoy being around serena williams although she is fucking serena williams if you're going through

that last stage and it's your tournament you could see how she could get fucking jacked up for that. She was locked in during that match, like super pissed the entire time. And then as soon as it ended, it was like so much happiness. The place went crazy. They did an entire fucking run. Billie Jean came out. Terrible coin flipper. Pretty expensive coin flipper that lady is.

Yeah, her. But she was awesome. She gave a great speech. Gave a great speech as the Gil King with the interview. What a moment, you know? And it was the first time, and my wife and I were talking about it, it was like, oh, we should watch this. Like, Serena's the fucking, there's nobody that's going to touch Serena

in women's tennis ever, right? I don't know tennis enough. Again, probably not. No way. I don't know tennis enough. Again, probably not. No way. I don't know. We got young Coco coming up, young Coco Goff. But, you know. Serena's a dog, though, right?

Yeah, Serena, she's one of one. Her and her sister, Legends, Venus Williams. But Serena, this is amazing that she's getting this last run. Obviously, the GOAT. I'm mad I missed it. I was on a flight. But I'll definitely check out the second round. It was awesome.

Yeah. She also had to take years off in the tail end of her prime because she decided she wanted to have a kid. That's basically what she said. If I was a male, I wouldn't have had to make that decision. I would have just kept fucking crushing people and winning tournaments, but I wanted to have a kid. I think she's a dog.

Oh, yeah. She is in that upper tier level, and we don't know her. Never met her. Followed her. Her husband and I follow each other on Twitter. He's the founder. Founder of Reddit.

Yeah, Lexus. We follow each other. We DM'd a couple times. Nice. No big deal. I feel like I'm part of it. But honestly, I don't know her, but you have to put her up in that competitive. Yeah.

In that, like the, you know. She changed the game. The super humans up there yeah she's in there she's in my opinion she should be in the mountain rush more type conversation of athletes talking about athletes overall man male and female and she does some great stuff business-wise too you know off the off the court she knows part owners of the dolphins her and her sister um some other things all their clothing she changed like tennis clothing i feel like too sick year last night Dolphins, her and her sister. Some other things. All their clothing. She changed, like, tennis clothing, I feel like, too. Sick year last night.

Oh, yeah. Her and her daughter had the match in whatever it's called on. Sick year last night. She's just so dominant for so long. Didn't she win a tournament while she was pregnant? Like, before she actually had to, like, go and believe so. She was, like, eight and a half months pregnant. Won the Australian Open, I thought.

Yeah, I thought she won one. I don't know if it was eight and a half months. The baby almost fell out that night. Oh, yes. She was like eight and a half months pregnant. Won the Australian Open, I thought. Yeah, I thought she won one. I don't know if it was eight and a half months. The baby almost fell out that night. Oh, okay. That's a lot. I thought I read that. No, but I do think she won the Australian Open. Don't be a horse's ass, AJ. Why are you such a fucking asshole?

I always said that because General Bob likes to talk about how his mom ran like ten miles when she was eight and a half months pregnant with one of his brothers. Okay, well, so General Bob, we just got the information. She was 20 weeks pregnant. Yeah. Whenever she won the Australian. Still crazy. Jeez.

That's tough because a lot of times girls are still sick at that time. Morning sickness. Oh, yeah. Hey, congrats on a hell of a run. Legend. Are they going to have that type of thing after every single round here at the U.S. Open? I hope so. I hope so.

They normally interview the winner after every single match. Okay, will it be a full? I hope so. Yeah. I guess so. Probably number two in the world tomorrow. Especially if you're center court. She's playing tomorrow?

I believe so, yeah. How much are those tickets? Probably pretty expensive. So is she the underdog on this one? Number two in the world? I don't know. She was a heavy favorite last night, I know. She was minus 330 and closed that.

The sports books being like, yeah, so Serena technically should lose this. She is a decent dog, plus 180. Wow. Well, betting on some of the ladies. Just, I don't know what we're doing. The energy in that place last night, once she started painting with her serves,

that place started just like the darts. Just like the fucking darts. In between dart throws, everybody goes bananas. In tennis, in between serves, everybody goes crazy. And then silence! The person in the little chair that's why kriegos is so awesome because when it is quiet he'll start talking shit and everything what's the whole thing it's to throw helps and hit it harder oh that's just like max effort grunt

bingo oh what's going on with Joker? Well, he didn't get the vaccine. Bullshit. Can't play in the U.S. Open. Is it the U.S. Open that kept him out or someone else? Getting back into the U.S. But I thought we changed the rules, didn't we? Didn't the CDC?

Listen, I know we're listening to CDC. We're not listening to CDC. People are listening to CDC. It just depends on if they're saying something you agree with. Correct. Right, it's kind of how this has gone, I think, with to CDC. We're not listening to CDC. People are listening to CDC. It just depends on if they're saying something you agree with. Yeah, correct. Right, it's kind of how this has gone, I think, with the CDC. Didn't they say Vax and non-Vax will not get treated differently anymore? Yep.

So how come Joker can't come? If you're a citizen of the goddamn United States of America. Oh, if you're. Well, that's a whole other conversation. I can't be part of it. Well, he's coming after. I like that part. Because he bought that one medical company to disprove the vaccines.

So I assume they didn't take lightly to that either. So what's that have to do with him getting back? So is he out of the U.S. Open forever? In the land of the free? No, I think part of it is because he himself did have COVID and he had a big charity event and basically got the entire country of Serbia sick. He almost killed Nikola Jokic. Alright.

I think that's a show. I was unaware. I think that's a show for today. The party was bumping. Honestly, I think that's a show for today. We've done enough. That's what happened though. We have done enough. We've done enough today to really prove.

I miss Kirkjian. There's no. Tim Kirkjian made an appearance today as well. I miss Tim, too. Let's go to Devin in South Bend, Indiana. Devin, what's going on on the 500-NG phone line? South Bend. Hey, how are you today, Pat?

Hey, not bad. How are you, Devin? Hopefully great. What do you want to talk about, man? Hey, first of all, I want to say that I'm a big fan of the show, and you guys do a great job every day in and out. I just want to let you know, first of all, that I'm a big

fan. Devin, we appreciate that. It's not true, though. There's some terrible shows we put on here. Today, be one of them. Anyway, what do you want to talk about, Devin? I want to talk about my Chicago Bears. They're a lot of people i'm a bear fan i live in south bend indiana home of the fighting irish um and i'm not i'm about an hour

and 45 minutes away from chicago so i go to a lot of bears games and a lot of people are doubting them this season because i mean we went three you know in the preseason, and all the Bears fans online are saying, we're going to win the Super Bowl, we're going to do that. And I'm like, shut up. Oh, okay, Devin said the same thing you did, AJ. Right. I'm like, okay, we're not a Super Bowl team, obviously, but Justin Fields has improved since last year,

and I have seen it just in the first three preseason games. And I just wanted to get your thoughts on, you know, the Bears. How do you think they're going to do this year? And do you think Justin Fields is going to be the man? Great question, Devin. Let's get to it. So Bruce Arians was on first take earlier today. Bruce Arians wrote a book called The Quarterback Whisperer.

He's been with Peyton. He's been with Luck. He's been with Tom Brady. He's been with Carson Palmer. He's been with – Roethl been with Luck he's been with Tom Brady he's been with Carson Palmer he's been with Roethlisberger Ben Roethlisberger he's been with a bunch of quarterbacks going back long long time always worked with quarterbacks always worked on the offensive side of the ball he was on first take earlier and he said he was asked who are some of those next quarterbacks that have it that he thinks in between the ears because he said making decisions

is the biggest deal of who's a quarterback, who's not a quarterback. If you can make the throw, obviously that's a thing. He was talking about in between ears. He said Patrick Mahomes, he thinks, has it. He said Justin Herbert, he thinks, has it. He said Justin Fields, he thinks, has it. And I remember I literally looked at Darius and said, Justin Fields, holy shit,

because he didn't say Mac Jones. He said Justin Fields. And you had quite a good take on Justin Fields. What are your thoughts on him going forward? You think he's a guy, don't you? I think he's a guy. But obviously, just like any other quarterback, you've got to put him in a good situation. You've got to put good talent around him.

Chicago has not done that so far. But he was my favorite quarterback prospect coming out after Lawrence. I had Lawrence one, but Fields I felt like should have been a number two pick in the draft. I think he still has the most talent. If San Fran would have took him at three, they definitely aren't dealing with what they're dealing with today. So I like Justin Fields a lot. He was a guy at Ohio State, right?

He just won. That's all he did? Yeah. He came in with very high expectations, and he, I think, exceeded those expectations. How did he handle it? It seems like last year there was a bunch of fuckery he was quarterback for them and there was i mean we're talking about the play selection that was made for him he wasn't a boot much there was kind

of you know a lackluster offense maybe that you can make a lot of excuses for why he didn't have the success they were in turmoil they were turning over and everything but it seemed like he was just consummate professional i don't think i saw anything that would make you believe like this guy is gonna be you know a distraction or any of the bullshit that was potentially being said about him while he was coming into the nfl remember there was narratives trying to be cooked about him that we all think yeah was potentially sabotage so he would fall yeah so that other teams could get him which is a bullshit dirty part of the game that does happen during draft season. But he seems like the fucking guy.

And hearing him and B.A. talk about it, I was like, okay, not taking Justin Fields as serious as we need to, and it's strictly because they're in the middle of a full turnover in Chicago. Will we ever see him be great? And when he was great at Ohio State, did he handle it like just a fuck? I don't remember anything about him off the field other than he just fucking works, and he was great at ohio state was he did he handle it like just a fuck i don't remember anything about him off the field other than he just fucking works and he was a vegan and yoked yeah i think right aj he was a pro when he was at ohio state yeah it was partly during

coven and everything but he was an absolute pro he felt i at least feel like from watching that dude from the outside like he came in he transfers in and seemed like okay he felt like an adult like he was a mature dude that was in control while he was in college. And so he goes to the Bears, and I feel like the exact same thing is in place. But let's see if obviously he needs everything around him to go decent, at least for him to have some success, I think. I like the fact that him and Aaron, too, talked afterwards after the game. And Aaron told him, like, hey, keep this alive, this whole Bears-Packers thing.

This is a big deal. And I think Justin Fields was asked, and he said he wants to beat the Packers or something like that. Three goals. I want to do this. I want to do this. I want to beat the Packers. Chicago loves this dude, huh, Zito?

Absolutely loves him. Can't do anything wrong. Yeah, probably not, no. I mean, Chicago, I mean. They need a guy. They need a guy. The league is better when Chicago's good. When was the last time?

Cutler? What, 06? 06, Super Bowl. Yeah, Super Bowl, Roma, Grossman. Even then, they didn't have, you know, who a lot of people thought they could have or should have had at quarterback. But have they had a 4,000-yard passer yet? No. Never.

Yeah, so, like, he could be that guy. But, once again, you got to put him in a favorable situation, put weapons around him. Like the things they've done in Jacksonville, at least on paper, it looks like they're at least going in to try to help Trevor Lawrence. A lot of money next year, by the way. Let's go to – and also a new stadium coming up. Let's go to Gabby in California on the 5RNG phone line. Gabby, California, what's going on?

Hey, what's up, boys? What's up, man? What do you want to talk about? I got a question for D-Bud. I've been trying to get in. Well, first of all, I'm a Raider fan, and I can't not say the fucking disrespect is insane that we have the same odds as the Giants to win their shit division as we do to win ours.

Well, I mean, your division is very tough. D-B, all right, as a D-back in the league, I was wondering, would you rather have an elite D-line in front of you or be part of an elite secondary? Great question. That is a great question. Damn. Damn, that's tough.

I would say elite secondary just because you know where your guys are going to be, communication pre-snap, figuring things out. Throughout the week, game planning and prepping. You know, you just obviously got to be on the same page, much like O-line. Like O-linemen aren't really shit without the guy next to them being on the same page. Very similar with D-backs. But it does help when you got an absolute dog or a few dogs coming off that edge. But if I had to choose one, I would say a dominant secondary unit.

Yeah. But you want both. For sure. One makes the other? One definitely helps the other. So if you think about like that run when the Broncos, when they went in just in the Super Bowl. Talk about Tabo?

So Peyton's last Super Bowl. He wasn't playing great, obviously, but you had Warren Von Miller coming off the edge and then you had to leave Chris Harris Robey in the slot. You had T.J. Ward. You were stacked on the back end, in front. An offense has to play against that.

That's tough. You heard Matt Ryan. He talked about picking up the passing game, but the pass rushers is what changes the most with quarterbacks. If you've got to deal with that pass rush and then you've got DBs that know where the hell to be, that's tough. Yes, you have to decipher the coverage and you have to watch your ass. Yeah.

So that's all happening pretty quick. Bruce Herring said, from a snap to three seconds, who can process and make a decision and make a throw? That is the difference between who can be a quarterback and who can't. It was actually very insightful for – I think he was on – I don't know how long he was on first take. I saw like 10 minutes or whatever. Anytime he starts talking, I enjoy listening, man.

So good luck to the Raiders, though. Hey, look, you know, the reason why you have the same odds as the Giants because, like, the AFC West is just… Different division. Every team is different. This is literally not about if you're a better team or not. It's about how you'll fare in your division. And your division is going to be tough.

And maybe the Raiders go. Veteran quarterback, a lot of dogs, new management, so it might be a fresh breath in there of competition and maybe a whole new vibe, I guess, which there's a lot of people saying. Maybe the Raiders go to the Raiders. Speaking of, they just traded one of their better secondary members, Trayvon Mullen, to the Cardinals. So they did that today as well.

Okay, they picked up old buddy Rakia Sin, right? Oh, yeah, and he's right from India. He had a good year last year. So they've been making some plays. It seems like they're also trying to piece together. They go all in on Chandler Jones. They go all in on Devontae Adams. I think they paid Crosby, right?

Yeah, they did. Renfro. Renfro got another deal. They're going. They have studs everywhere Wallace is supposed to be paid soon I think yeah he's trying to get

a new contract which is shit they're good very good at the football they're going all in over there McDaniels with that offense is going to be something to see

I mean depending on their own line I was going to say I think they have a chance to have the best offense in the NFL this year plus 700 not bad odds

AFC West over there but you have to remember you're also betting against Patrick Mahomes and Justin Herbert and the boys. And Russell Wilson and the boys. That's tough. So that's why the odds are the way they are.

But let's remember that, you know, the odds are gettable. They know the same shit as we do. If you think that McDaniels and that Raiders team will be able to piece together in a new, you know, energy, the AFC West is going to beat up on each other. There's going to be losses. You can win that division, I think. Oh, yeah.

10, 11 wins. 100%. Who can get there? All of them. Yeah. I mean, you're going to see one of those teams in a primetime game for like the first 10 weeks of the season. That's awesome.

Just like the NFC West last year. Yeah. Because the first Sunday night football is Denver, and then the first Thursday night game with Amazon is KC Chargers. It really is almost every single week. Well, congrats to all of the broadcasts and congrats to the AFC West. You bring in the richest owner in the NFL.

Yesterday I said richest owner in sports and somebody did correct me. I guess Balmer, the thigh grabber and... What about the Waltons? That's not the Riches? No. So I guess Balmer's got

a hundred-something bill. Robson Walton's only got 60 to 70 bitch-ass billies. That's all. He's the richest in the NFL. What does Steve Allen have? The Microsoft guy. Well, so is Balmer.

Balmer is similar to Balmer, but I don't think as much. Balmer is Microsoft guy, right? Yes. Paul Allen is what guy, right? Yes. Paul Allen is, what, third or fourth at Microsoft? Microsoft was just creating billionaires over there. Yes. Oh, yeah.

Wow. Yeah, Ballmer is at those pool bars with Bill Gates. True. What? Oh, don't say what. I didn't see any pictures of that. Look at his face. Yeah, you did.

What? I didn't know that. I don't know if Ballmer wants that out there. I didn't hear that. No, he doesn't care. He's got $90 billion. Pretty cool, man. Jeremy in Ohio spelled Jeremy on a 500 phone line. What would you like

to talk about, pal? J-E-R-M-E-Y Okay, what is it, Jeremy? E-R-M-E-Y On O.J. Howard And why he got cut Okay What is it Jeremy? Um He's just shit pal Alright

Bingo Yeesh That's pretty rude Yeah I mean O.J. Howard Super Bowl champ That's right

Don't ever forget it Friend of the program He was good on the show Freak athlete too Freak athlete If you're in the NFL Who said it? Mark Schlares Yeah So If you're in the NFL, who said it? Mark Schlaerth.

Yeah. So if you're in the NFL, you're a great athlete. And before he could even get his next words out, I said, thank you, Mark. Thank you for what you just said. What, top two hands on the team when I was there? Top three. Yeah, top two probably. I heard people were voting.

I gave you top three for sure. Consistent. I have pretty good hands. Darius, you think your hands were too good to be a holder? That's why you weren't good? Because they were too soft? That's why you couldn't figure out how to catch a snap? I don't know.

I mean, I thought I was pretty good. Well, it was a little slow. I mean, that's what everybody said. Yikes. Hands are too good. Hands. He's got buttery soft hands, this guy. That's why I asked him earlier, how come you weren't a wide receiver?

It feels like you, tall, fast, athletic, can catch everything. Got to depend on too many people. Be good. I had to bet on myself. You know, I didn't have a, you know, smart. Like I said, you got to have a lot of good people. I got to have a good play caller, good O-line, good quarterback. I just put me on the island of me when I match up.

And figure it out. Yeah, let me figure it out out here. Dan Orlovsky threw you the ball a bunch of times. Nah. Oh, nah, just put me on the island. Let me win my matchup. And figure it out. Yeah, let me figure it out out here. Dan Orlovsky threw you the ball a bunch of times. Nah. Oh, well, yeah. When I was a scout team DB, he was seeing your hot shot quarterback. But, yeah, it was fun practicing against Dan. What do you think Dan Orlovsky's up to right now?

He's watching film. Watching film. Branding right now. Watching Fox. Yeah. Might be locks in with the boys. Let's call Orlovsky. He should be coaching that UConn team.

Should be. I mean, actually, he probably has. NFL Live is coming up. Yeah, two hours of prep meetings. Probably wrap it up right now, right? Do they do that two hours every day? I assume. That'd be wild.

I would give Orlovsky a shot coaching the UConn. He put us on the map. Yeah. It was Dan's town for a while. Fucking state. What are we even talking about? Dan answers. We'll talk to him if he doesn't. Show's over It was Dan's town for a while. Fucking state. What are we even talking about? Dan answers. We'll talk to him

if he doesn't show us over. Hope Dan's happy. Yeah. Get it right, Dan. He might be in hibernation too because, you know, he's got a long 10,000 hours

coming up for him from now until February. He's got a college game coming up, doesn't he? Probably. 10,000 hours for my 10, until February. He's got a college game coming up, doesn't he? Probably. 10,000 hours, found my 10,000 days. Is that one of the Thursday games?

Show's over. Is he calling this Purdue game Thursday? No. Tom Fox. Nice. Is he at WVU Pitt? Who's calling it back here, bro? Probably Herbie, right?

Is it? Thursday? I don't think so. What? I don't think so. Herbie's doing Ohio State-Notre Dame 8 p.m. Yeah, on Thursday. What is this guy?

You're going to wheel Herbie out? What was that? No, you don't think West Virginia-Pitts is a big enough game for Herbie? I think it's a huge game. I don't think it's a primetime game at 7.30 p.m. Eastern. I assume Orlovsky would have Rutgers-Indiana. I think it is. Is it Thursday? Thursday at 7.30 p.m. Eastern. I assume Orlovsky would have Rutgers-Indiana. Is it Thursday? Thursday at 7.

7. Eastern. Kirk might be on that. Let's just mic up Graham Harrell and just listen to what he's saying. Let him commentate the game? The whole entire game. He could do it. He can do anything. Game day's there. That's why I said Kirk is probably calling it.

Oh, are they really? I didn't know that. Yeah. All right, so let's keep it within seven and a half. Okay. Let's go ahead and do that. Lock that in. Yeah, that's a lock.

And the over. Whatever West Virginia points over is, I'm going to hammer it. Good luck with Slobodan slinging the pill. No, because they're going to score fast, too. But guess what? Harrell and the boys are coming right back. Six all-conference players on defense. Never mind.

Never mind. I will not be taking that. Never mind. Don't just come and go like that. I will take West Virginia 7.5, but never mind. Okay. Graham Harrell. Graham Harrell.

He's got a plan. They're going to keep it close. You know what that tells me? They've got a lot of the same guys back, so he's got a lot of film. True. He's got a lot of film to look at. Jesus, Neil Brown. So, grabs OC? film. True. He's got a lot of film to look at. Jesus, Neil Brown. So grabs OC? Yeah. Okay.

There's Pat Narduzzi. He is officially the Chris Bickle. Chris Bickle. Class of 95. 97. Chris Bickle. Class of 97. Head coach of the University of Pittsburgh Panthers. That's right. Pat Narduzzi. He leads with this man,

Devin Slovan. No, Slovan Amalosevic. Keaton Slovan. Slovan something. That's right. Pat Narduzzi. He leads with this man, Devin Slovan. No, Slovan on the lowest. Keaton Slovan. Slovan something. That's not his name. And then on the other side, that's Neil Bryant. Had success at Troy. We're trusting the climb with the Mountaineers. It has been some time. We haven't climbed that high, but we hope this year

will be the altitude that we'll not be able to breathe without a mask is how high we're going. With that quarterback right there who is obviously a great player. JT Daniels. I don't think he won the starting job, but nonetheless, West Virginia plus 245, why not? And Neil Brown, they took a page out of the pit book

because it's now actually the Zuc, the new class of 2008 head football coach of West Virginia. I am not sure if the Zucari family has purchased the naming rights of the head coaching role in West Virginia. I did see him in pads the other day. I did, too. Wait, is he the star and quarterback? So he did say he had years of eligibility left if we needed him. I don't think that's how the NCAA looks at it.

I believe the NCAA, you have a clock as soon as you enroll in school. You have like five years with a red shirt in there. Then that can be extended with a blue shirt, gray shirt, all these other shirts you can potentially put in there. So, like, you could almost get a doctorate as eligible. I think he has outlived that. I do believe Zucari at this point will not be able to play. Bring him back.

But Zucari will be present in the massive backyard brawl on Thursday night. You're not going to like who's calling it. Who's calling it? Pit alum Louie Riddick. Oh, great. Nice. So now every completion I have to hear about what the secondary should have been. What a great throw by Slobodan Milosevic. Is he with Dane?

Is it Dan? It's Steve Levy, Dan Orlowski and Louie Riddick. Matt Berry and Louie Riddick. Oh, nice. Fantasy football advice. It'll be good. Not that Matt Berry. Oh. It's Steve Levy, Dan Orlovsky, and Louie Riddick. Matt Berry and Louie Riddick. Oh, nice. Fantasy football advice. It'll be good. It'll be good. Not that Matt Berry. Oh.

Sports Center Matt Berry. Yeah. B-A-R-R-I-E. It'll be good. I'm excited for it. Louis Riddick's a professional. He'll call right down the store. Love Lou.

He's a very solid secondary member. Oh, yeah. I like Rudy. We need more secondary guys calling game because nobody else knows what the hell's going on back there. Yeah. I think we're going to do a guys calling game because nobody else knows what the hell is going on back there. Yeah, I think we're going to do a lot of that this year where somebody gets blamed and looks bad on the internet. And then we're going to be able to utilize film and say, well, actually, what was supposed to happen was this and this. We're actually going to do it tomorrow, I think, because we already got the plays picked out.

Can't wait for that. We had an incredible Tuesday. We hope you did as well. Say nice things to those who've been released from teams because nobody knows what the future looks like for anybody. Will they find new homes? Hopefully. Will they go play in another league, try to get another shot? Maybe.

Will they be selling insurance? Maybe. Maybe. Yeah. I need some positive advice. Go ahead, AJ. Have a great day. Darius, thank you for stopping by.

To all the boys, thank you for your hard work. Michael Lombardi, Lombo in the first hour. It was great to catch up again. Hashtag PMS is dead. Still trending number one. We'll be back tomorrow with more bullshit, more big guests, and more big conversation. And our video game. Hell yeah.

It's going to be released tomorrow. So it's a big day. Yeah, huge. Huge day. It's an opportunity of a lifetime tomorrow. That's right. Let's enjoy it all. Thank you all so much.

Goodbye.