The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 731 - Russell Wilson Signs An Extension With The Broncos, Jeff "The Jett" Passan, Joel Klatt, Darius Butler In Studio, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: September 1, 2022

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys are joined in studio again by Darius Butler as they discuss Russell Wilson's new extension with the Denver Broncos with $165 million guaranteed, if this cha...nges anything about what Lamar Jackson will end up asking for contract wise, more on the 49ers situation with Trey Lance and Jimmy G, and the Backyard Brawl being back after some years, and the other big college football games tonight. Joining the progrum to chat about Edwin Diaz coming out to Timmy Trumpets, if Aaron Judge is going to resign with the New York Yankees, and everything else going on in the world of baseball is ESPN MLB Insider, and friend of the show, Jett Passan (1:08:13-1:34:10). Later, Color Commentator for the #1 college football broadcast on FOX with Gus Johnson, Joel Klatt joins the show to chat about the state of college football, why he's so excited about tonight's games and this season as a whole, his thoughts on the NIL situation and how he would approach it going forward, and if he has any interest in calling NFL games (1:34:12-1:58:39). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, beautiful people. Rabbit, rabbit, it is Thursday, September 1st, 2022. NFL Football 7 Days From Now, this show starts now. Football is here tonight. Two massive, massive college football games. Penn State travels here to Indiana to take on Purdue about an hour and a half north of here. I can't wait to watch that game on another television because the Backyard Brawl is back for the first time in 11 years tonight.
Starting point is 00:00:34 Now, the Backyard Brawl is a game that's obviously very close to my story, my life. I am from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Went to school at West Virginia University. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Went to school at West Virginia University. The reason why I went to school at West Virginia University is because how close it was from door to door from my house to that campus. That 75-mile stretch or whatever has been talked about by damn near every fucking network this week
Starting point is 00:00:55 because the backyard brawl is one that has a lot of history, has a lot of passion, and tonight should be fucking epic is all I'm saying. There's 75% allegedly crowd is going to be West Virginia crowd. So we're about to go into Accresher Stadium and maybe take some big old Montaineer dumps on that thing. And hopefully Neil Bryan will have the climb that we've been trusting for a long time at the peak, at the climax, at the tippy top of the mountain because I do believe we're taking on a Pittsburgh Panther squad
Starting point is 00:01:24 that's really fucking good. Defensive line's supposed to be number two in the country. I guess the offensive line's pretty good as well. They lose Kenny Pickett and a wide receiver that they had last year that went on transfer to USC or whatever the case. They got a new quarterback. We do as well. It's seven and a half points.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Feels like that's going to be a little bit too many points for a rivalry game with the juices how high they're going to be, the nerves how high they're going to be. First game of the season season boys are going to be a little bit tight 7.5 feels like a lot or we might watch the game tonight and go of course
Starting point is 00:01:50 30 points we don't even know a single player on the fucking West Virginia team with that being said I am happy that this game is back
Starting point is 00:01:56 I am happy that this game is happening everybody in my life has some sort of connection not everybody I guess Connor doesn't fucking matter no I have nothing.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Ty Darius doesn't either. I care. I'm a little Big East guy, yeah. Darius is back in the studio another day. Ty went to Iowa. It's Big Ten. But everybody that's in my personal life that I haven't met through my profession is either a diehard Pitt fan or a diehard West Virginia fan.
Starting point is 00:02:23 And although this brawl and rivalry might have taken an 11-year hiatus, the ship talk between the two never stopped. The bashing of the two never stopped. There's hype videos coming out from both sides. Starting quarterback, who I never fucking heard of for the University of Pittsburgh, is coming out in the middle of a pep rally, looking back at his daddy, whether or not he can swear or not. You go, who?
Starting point is 00:02:45 Floor question. Shut up, dude. All right? You put out a tweet allegedly in 2014 that said, eat shit, pit, which is what everybody at West Virginia's bucket is saying. It's a beautiful rivalry. This is a beautiful thing that is back for the people in the area in which I'm from, from where I went to school.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Obviously, the backyard brawl for me brings up terrible memories. Now, I had the longest kick in Heinz Field and in the middle of the backyard brawl and won 3-1, I think, in the backyard brawl and, you know, a lot of that type of stuff. There's one particular backyard brawl that I will remember forever and one particular backyard brawl that I was kind of forced to talk about all week this week because media folks wanted to chat about it because it is a game in the history of college football that nobody could have expected going the way that it went, including myself and all of my teammates. It was in 2007.
Starting point is 00:03:31 We had a fucking team. Now, Darius? Don't want to talk about it. Okay. Darius went to UConn. Darius had to run into the buzzsaw. They were at the time. Not bad.
Starting point is 00:03:41 UConn was not bad. Donna Brown was up there. Darius Butler was up there. I believe Dana was there at the beginning. He was gone, yeah. He left. But we used to just fucking steamroll time. Not bad. UConn was not bad. Donna Brown was up there. Darius Butler was up there. I believe Dana was there at the beginning. He was gone, yeah. He left. But we used to just fucking steamroll everybody. Of course.
Starting point is 00:03:49 And I was just lucky to be there. This was my first real baptism into football was this team. I grew up in the soccer world. For high school, I'd show up on Fridays. I'd kick. I'd do my thing, and I'd leave. West Virginia, when I got there, a couple months before school started, we were the first freshman class that was able to do that via the NCAA as go in early the summer beforehand.
Starting point is 00:04:09 And Mike Barless was a fucking guy. Now, he made me into the person I am, but those were tough days. Those were tough workouts. That was my first, hello, how you doing? This is how the football world operates. Practices, meetings, how it was going to be just being a kicker at the time. Then I would transition into a punter as well and do both my sophomore season but I was really learning football culture through that entire thing always been an NFL fan didn't know much about college but you know the insides of what
Starting point is 00:04:35 football looked like and I was very lucky to be on a great fucking team not just good a great fucking team now I rode the coattails through some magical moments. We obviously won the Sugar Bowl our freshman year. Now, there was a lot of vets on that team too, older guys that were fucking hell of good players. Jay Henry, Mike Lorello, Dan Moses, and the boys up there, Sheffy, all the guys. They were good people. Good people up there, but they were the older class, the older regime. Our freshman class, which I didn't redshirt, so Pat White,
Starting point is 00:05:05 Steve Slayton didn't redshirt either. Owen Schmidt was a part of that group. Darius Raynaud was a part of that group. I came in alongside a great recruiting class, Reed Williams, who was in my wedding. I mean, we just had a team. We had a very good fucking team. We loved each other off the field.
Starting point is 00:05:21 We partied. I mean, we did. Not everybody. I'm not painting a broad brush i think we probably had some nerds on the team somewhere nobody that i knew we had a fucking blast we lived how you know you would think a team that went to school in morgantown west virginia where there's penny pitchers on wednesdays and drink till you drown tuesdays and like five dollars and spend no more type thursdays I mean, it was a great time.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Our basketball team was fucking unbelievable at the time. I had, and I went out too much. I was a little bit too reckless, a little bit too carefree. But everything was all too kumbaya for me. Freshman year, I kicked, okay, not bad. We won the fucking Sugar Bowl. All right, this is awesome. This is how it's supposed to be.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Beat Georgia in Georgia. The week of that game, we're housing beers and wings and the georgia guys got like water and salads at events it was just like we were not supposed to be the team that we were supposed to be many scholarships are pulled from guys from other schools they ended up at west virginia pat white was offered to be a wide receiver i believe at lsu or alabama not a quarterback nobody really saw him at that he was drafted to play baseball like three times by the time. So we were really a group of misfits that had Mike Barless in the weight room kicking the fucking shit out of us, and we would go. We were a lot of workers, a lot of Pittsburgh guys, a lot of Florida guys in there. We had a
Starting point is 00:06:38 working group, and then Rich Rodriguez was the most intense human being that I had ever seen in my life. This is the most intense, most passionate person I'd ever seen about the little things because his big belief is to take care of the little things. Big things take care of themselves. But those fucking little things need to be pointed out, need to be addressed, and need to be treated as if they are a fucking massive ordeal because long term they will be. At the time, I don't think any of us really understood why this motherfucker is always mad. Like, hey, things are pretty good.
Starting point is 00:07:06 We're having a good time. What the fuck, dude? We were up 25, 28. We go down to the SEC. We play fucking Mississippi State. We win by a lot. Afterwards, we're getting motherfucked from some penalty that happened,
Starting point is 00:07:18 and it's just like we needed that guy to be our coach. We needed Barwiss, and I think we needed each other. And in 2007, in the backyard brawl, the team needed me to do my fucking job. At that point, I'd become a college kicker that people expected to make kicks. So when I would miss a kick, obviously people would be alarmed at that point. Didn't start out that way my freshman year. Grew into that particular thing. I think going into the backyard brawl in 2007, we'd already won two bowl games before that freshman, sophomore year. Going into that game, I had made like 10 straight field goals.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Who knows how many extra points? I mean, I was playing probably my best ball, kicking my best ball. And then first quarter, first drive, I miss a fucking 20-yarder. What are you doing, you idiot, doofus? We all knew what was on the line. Third drive, I miss a 30-some yarder wide right. First one wide left, I think I tried to overcompensate missed the next one wide right and little did I know that that would definitely come in to affect the rest of my life because after that first quarter ended we go into halftime
Starting point is 00:08:15 I think we had to lead second half we end up losing that game 13 to 9 our shots that go into a national championship which that team deserved that team that I was very lucky to be on deserved to go to a national championship and fucking ruin whoever. I think it was Ohio State or LSU. LSU. I think LSU got in because of us. Okay. So I think it would have been Ohio State.
Starting point is 00:08:36 It was, yeah. And those Ohio State boys, I understand they're big, they're strong. Fucking Steve and Pat had a different speed. That would have been. Different. Well, we would have won. We would have fucking won. But instead, we ended up losing that game.
Starting point is 00:08:51 And what happened to our team? Rich Rod leaves. He goes to Michigan. There's new people brought in that are planning for the future, not really for the current. So like our senior year just kind of comes awash. for the current so like our senior year just kind of comes awash and it just is a moment that I have tried to basically bury deep because of how much guilt I feel from what happened that evening because the people that I care about my teammates my family my friends at West Virginia that I got to know my roommates that I live with there who also on the team they're friends and family I
Starting point is 00:09:24 guess at the same time those people what they had to experience because of my performance in first quarter it was just the worst night of my entire life um thought about maybe disappearing never being seen again after that I was told it by a lot of people walking by our house had a lot of bottles thrown at our fucking house had bottles thrown in my car everybody knew where I lived because I fucking was always out and about and we had a massive uh team chemistry building barbecue right every single year it was not a party it was not a party it was a team chemistry building barbecue at the end of training camp and the entire city fucking showed up at it so literally everybody knew where i lived and on that particular evening i learned a quick lesson
Starting point is 00:10:04 about you can be known by a lot of people. You can be loud. But if you don't do your fucking job, they are certainly going to let you know about it. I hit rock bottom, I'd say, that evening. At one point the next day, I got in my car. I kind of just drove away, was going to disappear, never come back, didn't talk to anybody. For whatever reason, I turned back around and my teammates uh were so cool and they talked to Reed this week for Sports Illustrated Ross Dellinger did Reed Williams was my roommate
Starting point is 00:10:30 and he told his story and Ross Dellinger a retro Sports Illustrated I don't like doing interviews I don't like talking to people uh there's too much of me right now anyways and also anytime I talk to somebody they'll take like a tiny quote from me and everybody hears how I speak every fucking day they'll take a tiny quote and then they'll insert their opinions on what I was thinking but if they would have just continued to quote you'll get exactly how I'm actually fucking feeling so I don't really enjoy the whole media game because a too much b they're never going to accurately depict what I actually mean because I'm a fucking you know idiot and it's hard to understand that so Ross had reached out to me he wrote the Sports Illustrated article and I did not answer I don't know Ross like that
Starting point is 00:11:09 he came on our show we're not like he doesn't follow me I don't follow him we I'd never met him in real life I respect and appreciate his work but he wanted to talk about 13-9 I was like I don't I don't want to talk about this so he interviews my guy Reed Reed tells me hey you're going this guy's just asking about you basically so this story is going to want to talk about this. So he interviews my guy, Reed. Reed tells me, hey, you're going, this guy's just asking about you, basically. So this story is going to happen whether you want to give your side or not. So I called Ross. I thought he did a great job with it. I thought he was very, very kind. I thought he was very nice.
Starting point is 00:11:35 I appreciated the opportunity to talk about it because reading that article and everybody that's reached out to me since that article has come out yesterday has been a really fucking cool story and a cool moment for me that I think I needed. So, like, I think these last two days have been a lot. For me, there's been a lot of guilt that has been felt. There's been a lot of bad memories that have been brought up. But there's also been a lot of closure, I think, with a lot of fucking people, including me and Coach Rod, texting each other the last couple of days. So, like, I tonight west virginia wins by
Starting point is 00:12:05 a thousand gonna be tough i think that pit team's ready to go yeah but i am excited to be back into a state of mind which hasn't happened i don't think ever where i'm like yeah i went to west virginia i was a part of that i feel like i accomplished a lot yeah i tweeted this this morning it's the first time i've ever really done something like this about my college thing. But I feel like getting a lot of messages from a lot of people that I thought I let down and a lot of people that I thought would hate me forever and them sending me a message being like, bro, come the fuck on. We all hate it, but come on.
Starting point is 00:12:36 I mean, I was a fucking guy, dude. I came in two different positions. Two different positions. I was All-American, all-time leading scorer, obviously two-time BCS champ because I rode coattails of that, Ray Guy finalist, Groza semifinalist, and I don't talk about it ever. I always have my jersey here, but I never talk about it because if I was to talk about it, the only thing that's going to come up
Starting point is 00:12:56 is how I should think about going back to that spot in my mind where I wanted to fucking kill myself. So I am happy and proud of what I accomplished. I am lucky that I was a part of that team. I will never be able to go back and make those kicks now, but I will say forever, fucking eat shit pit. Tonight, let's go. I hope Neil Brown finds a winner.
Starting point is 00:13:17 It'll be a lot of weight off of my shoulders. If they fucking win a national championship, that would be fantastic. I don't know if it's going to be this year, but Graham Harrow in there. True. We shall see. So I'm excited for tonight for a lot of reasons, and it feels like football is happening, happening right now. Super excited for tonight.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Not a surprise that Morgantown is going to take over. Akershire Stadium. If you're from Pittsburgh, you either most likely root for Pitt, Penn State, or Morgantown, and I think Pitt probably has the least percentage of fans in the city. Morgantown, no. It's West Virginia University. It's the whole state.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Hell yeah. Yeah, just versus a fucking neighborhood. Yeah, that was Pac-Man, too. You didn't love that. What are you going to do? You're going to tell Pac-Man? I have no dog in the fight. I have no dog in the fight tonight.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Obviously, in the back of my head, I'm like, yay, Pitt, because I'm from Pittsburgh, whatever. It didn't go there. It doesn't matter to me. I actually enrolled and was accepted. I was going to go to West Virginia but decided to play football in college so I didn't go to West Virginia. You haven't been great in our locker room. No, I wouldn't play football there.
Starting point is 00:14:15 I just drank. Well, yeah, but the week you were on the team, which happened to a lot of people, I'm going to walk on. I'm going to be a college football player. I'm not going to be back next week at all. This is Boris guy. Yeah, that is it. But the whole city is going to be abuzz tonight.
Starting point is 00:14:30 But yeah, Pitt brings back all five, actually all seven O-linemen. Their top seven linemen are back. They had number two in the nation in sacks last year. They're all back. Six all-conference starters are back on D. Jesus. That's a lot. We're boosting the seven and a half.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Here we go. WVU also has five O-linemen back, but they. We're boosting the seven and a half. Here we go. WVU also has five O-linemen back, but they were 100th in the country last year, and Zach's giving up. Only up from here. Only way he's up. It's hard to replace fucking Kenny Pickett and Jordan Addison on offense.
Starting point is 00:14:56 There you go. And then JT Daniels, maybe he's the greatest quarterback of all time. Who knows? Yesterday we didn't even know if he was the starter, so I'm assuming he's not. But if he was in an actual battle with maybe the backup who played last year was it that who jared there was two guys who played last year there was yeah it was hoagie doggie or whatever
Starting point is 00:15:12 doggie dog relax doggie doggie this guy's been ruined enough on a football field we don't need you guys burying him as well you're right west jane team was six and seven last year i mean that bad that is bad when you think about our team, though. Hey, Diva, the team that I was lucky to be on, hey. Hey. That team was a bunch of fucking dogs. Pat was ahead of his time at that quarterback position. That O-line, that zone running scheme you guys had, obviously Slayton.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Weapons outside of receivers as well. Y'all had dogs up and down, up and down that roster. Richie Rod, I felt like was great. I had no clue he was that type of person. From the outside looking in, you see him at the Big E stuff. Oh, this is a cool coach. I'd love to play for that guy. Hey, he probably is cool.
Starting point is 00:15:56 I mean, I've never seen him as like a person. Seems like it was normal. I've never like hung out with him as a human. I've only experienced him as coach to player. He did not want us to like him. Like that was a very, you only experienced him as coach to player yeah he did not want us to like him like that was a very you know what i mean a lot of college coaches that way though so you know you said he'll probably be back in the sec soon he's like you're doing his thing somewhere hey he's at jacksville state they just beat the fuck yeah and he was not did you see
Starting point is 00:16:19 three two minutes left in the game his hat sideways about to fucking explode massive dogs in the game too not like it was you know they were favorites they were massive dogs and i'm sure he let them know that yeah he is just one of those guys who is the most passionate human i've ever seen about the little yeah the smallest thing he is most passionate about and as i grow older and i told him this like i've respected what and why and how he did what he did to us yeah more and more you know like as i get older now there are certainly some things that if i was in his position i would have done very different you know and there are certainly some times that i was asked to you know
Starting point is 00:16:57 potentially do a rich rod rich rod impersonation in front of rich okay and i took that as an opportunity to point out some of the fucking things you have done in the last year that we all have seen. And it's like, maybe we need to move on. But I think he was, with that group we had, I mean, I don't want to bash the group because of how good of a group it was at humans. But like, it was almost like last chance you.
Starting point is 00:17:22 It almost was like last chance you, our team. We have the amount of arrests since college that have come out of that locker room, and I'm not talking about for, like, petty crimes. I'm talking about we had some fucking, like, dogs in there. Yeah. And everybody bought in, and everybody wanted to go to work and make – I think we all wanted to go win everything, and that's why it hurt so bad that it didn't happen because I feel like
Starting point is 00:17:46 obviously I'm a massive part of it. I feel like I was a good player for the team. I did not show up in the biggest night that we had. Now, granted, we played in a bunch of bowls. We all got those fucking games. You guys scored nine fucking points, so, you know. Yeah, Pat got hurt. Pat was five of ten. But if it's not for
Starting point is 00:18:02 Pat and Rich, though, I don't think, that locker room is a clusterfuck But like Pat White We would have walked into fucking Baghdad By the way Might have won with the group that we had We go into fucking Baghdad It was awesome to be a part of it
Starting point is 00:18:17 That was my first welcome to football How many guys got arrested And stuff like that Or had a bunch of issues coming in. And it was, like you mentioned, last chance, you pretty much. And you couple that with how Morgantown was. If Rich Rod would have been a candy ass, you guys probably would have had a much different team.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Guys getting arrested, kicked off the team. You needed someone. I mean, I was a part of the problem. I was a massive part of the problem. Yeah, and then you get out loans. You know, when it's penny pitchers and you have $40,000 in money out that you just got loans out from a 2 a.m., it's my money and I want it now.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Oh, paying a good 20%, 30% interest on this. That's a good deal. Give me the cash now. I'm on full scholarship. If it doesn't work out and I don't go to the NFL, I'll be broke like everybody else. Everybody else is in debt. I might as well be in debt, which, I mean, might have.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Might have never had to pay for it anyways. Yeah, true. Depending upon how it all goes. And then if it ends up working out, I'll just pay off this $40,000 cash, $75,000, whatever it ended up being at the time. So we were having a blast, dude. Then the offseason,
Starting point is 00:19:20 the basketball team was fucking making runs. Oh, yeah. Filthy. Morgantown was awesome. Hockey. You hated playing in Morgantown, I assume? No, I liked it. Loved the environment.
Starting point is 00:19:29 I hate getting my ass kicked. And then especially how y'all played the game. It was a lot of running. So I played, you know, obviously corners. So it was miserable. I think one year y'all might have had like 400, 500 yards rushing. Christ. I knew it was bad, too.
Starting point is 00:19:41 And the D-line coach came to the sideline and told our D-lineman, hey, on the snap of the ball, just run sideways. I've never heard that before. Because you had that zone scheme where you didn't have, like, a big bunch of 320-pound guys on the whole line. You had, like, athletic offensive linemen that can move side to side. And then Slayton or White would just find the seam. And then the ten times that they did throw the ball,
Starting point is 00:20:07 it would be wide open because you had nine guys in the box to stop the run. So it was tough. And the wide receivers that we had, Darius Raynaud is maybe the most explosive human I've ever seen in my life. He would put his foot in the ground, and it was just because they had to pack the box to try to stop the zone or whatever option. They would throw it out to him and he would have one-on-one and you make that one person miss which he would and then it was just
Starting point is 00:20:30 a race basically every single time owen schmidt as the dive that was awesome he used to bleed be bleeding the shit from his face face mask broke like i mean it was that he's a big guy too uh he wasn't no he wasn't nice like that. A tall receiver. He didn't – Wes Lyons. There's no reason for you to shit on him. He was nice. I had to find one.
Starting point is 00:20:51 I had to find one because I remember seeing him like 6'7", 6'8". Oh, shit. He made the NFL. Another Woody Haga. Damn. Let's see if he gets a shot. You got to give him a shot. No, yeah, he was a good guy.
Starting point is 00:21:02 He's a good player. Wrote a book. He's an author. Wow. Okay. Okay, Lyons. He's an author. Wow. Okay. Yeah, he's an author now. How about it? Yeah, hey there, the Big East days.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Man, Rutgers had – they had guys. Pitt obviously had guys. We were on our run. Cincy, South Florida, they had a run. Louisville. That division. Louisville. Yeah, Louisville.
Starting point is 00:21:19 So, a lot of good teams with coaches. But, obviously, you know, Dub V, y'all right at the top. Yeah, we tried to at least, I think. And I don't know how. I should have focused a lot more. But, yeah, I should have focused. Different experience. I mean, I don't know how I was supposed to.
Starting point is 00:21:33 I could go to those classes, which I didn't, but I could go and take those tests and just pass them. Yeah. Just from 25 minutes of looking at something, I'm going to go pass this test, forget everything forever. And then there's penny pitchers out right there there and i have four teammates that are looking to go because uh it's somebody's birthday and i'm not a i'm not a soccer player anymore so i don't have to run like 14 miles every single day i mean it was like a lot of like what what who would i be
Starting point is 00:22:01 if i didn't go exactly who why. Why would I not go out? And then I started having a good time too much at the time, was able to get away with it, and it doesn't show up until when? Until it shows up. And it did that particular night. It was the fucking universe coming all the way back saying, you should have focused a little bit. Things have been a little bit too easy, too smooth, too nice for you.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Boom! 20-yarder left. Bang! 32-yarder right. And that's like missing that much. I mean, what happened on him? Who the fuck knows? I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:22:35 I still won't know if I did. It just, I fucked up, man. It's a tough thing. That's a big part of college, though, is figuring out, like, oh, okay, I don't need to go to these classes. Because guess what? When the test comes around, I can pass them. And then I can get boozed up and have my free time and do whatever. That's a big part of college, figuring out what do I like to do?
Starting point is 00:22:54 Do I want to go fucking sit in this lecture hall that absolutely stinks and fall asleep and not get anything out of it anyway? Or do I want to go get real fucked up the night before and then just roll the dice on the test and guess what if i get a 75 i'm all good i'm gonna get my degrees see listen but my favorite is after that uh team chemistry building barbecue one year we had a couple guys get arrested on their way out and uh don't love that don't don't love that did not condone that at all did not want that to happen at all uh but everybody in the city was at this one it was awesome we had a couple we had a rap concert in the kitchen at one point nice with uh 66340 i think was his name 66240 663? He was this local rapper, man. He was awesome. He was lying about everything else.
Starting point is 00:23:47 If I was to give his actual height and weight, it wouldn't be anywhere near what his actual height is. He wasn't 6'6", 340. Well, he might have been like 6'3", 380. But he was a big fucking guy. Made bangers. So we would have, I mean, literally everybody's there. Cops were blocking off the street, you know.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Like, it was just, it was awesome. Normally it was the first week of school, too, first weekend of school. So it was like a welcome. Celeb this week. Yeah, but all of our coaches were there, too. Like, not the. GAs. GAs.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Every GA was there. Like, I was getting rides from GAs to go pick up another keg down the street. Like, hey, we need to do this. And obviously everybody's like, we don't talk about any of this ever. It's like, of course not. What are we what are we doing so then obviously we have some guys get arrested on the way out of there and uh i get woken up the next morning i think i passed out on the couch i get woken up next morning like a mandatory team meeting like 8 a.m or something we weren't supposed to have anything till noon so i knew yep something's wrong not yeah not good
Starting point is 00:24:42 you know so i'm getting like smacked in the face like hey wake up we got a mandatory team meeting so we go up there and uh coach stew rest in peace what a legend he calls me aside and he goes um he goes uh there was some type of party last night patrick and i said uh i think we had a good time yeah we had a pretty good time he goes there was a fucking curfew patrick you know that 11 o'clock sharp in your house i said i was in my house at 11 o'clock i was 1000 in my he said i'm gonna ask a bunch of people they all say you were in your house 11 o'clock i'm like yes sir i was motherfucking in my house 11 o'clock he goes your eyes are all bloodshot i said i was drunk but i was i was certainly in my house 11 o' He goes, get your fucking ass out of the meeting room. I'm like, all right. So as I'm walking in, I sit next to, I think I was next to Reed probably at the time or somebody.
Starting point is 00:25:32 I forget. I was like, have you guys heard what this is about? And everybody's like, no. I was like, well, it's about the party. And they're like, no shit. I was like, all right. Well, I missed that. I was just talking to Coach Stu.
Starting point is 00:25:42 I don't know what you want. And he goes up there. He has all the seniors stand up in this meeting. Rich Rod goes, last night, two of your motherfucking teammates got arrested. Right before our season even started. Bah, bah, bah. Goes on this whole thing. And he goes, seniors, stand the fuck up.
Starting point is 00:25:57 So all these seniors stand up. And every one of them is either still drunk or every single one of them. And then he says, GAs, will you fucking come to the front of the room? Every one of them still drunk. He goes, when you're partying and choosing, this is who you're fucking. He's like pointing at, he's like, Owen Schmidt saying, you know what he's been through? You're fucking Owen Schmidt whenever you're not focused on anything. Owen's like, that's right.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Owen and I literally were on the run at the end of that night to go grab something together. Then he points at this GA. This guy's sleeping on a fucking couch. Has a kid. Has a wife. Da, da, da, da. You're fucking this guy whenever you're choosing to party and do blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:26:40 That guy was sleeping on my couch just about two hours ago. I mean, the whole thing. So it was really our team was tighter, I think, than ever before. And I think that's why that game is such a stab right to the heart when we talk about it. But this week I got to face it a little bit. And I'll watch it tonight. And hopefully we'll win.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Definitely love this cover. And then we move right into a college football weekend. I think that's about to be epic. Really good weekend. Yeah, I think it's going to be awesome. We're talking to Joel Klatt in the third hour. He is calling the Penn State-Purdue game tonight. And he also has Alabama-Texas, I believe, coming up.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Wow. Big game. Yeah, coming up next week. Should be an absolute blowout. He's probably got a game Saturday, too. What do you mean should be an absolute blowout? Yeah, come on. Texas is going to even ranked this year?
Starting point is 00:27:26 I don't think they're ranked. Real rich for you to say, though, just talking about your team giving up 500 rushing yards. Yeah, that's old news. Our team was ranked, though, yeah. At that time, we were ranked at that time. They weren't the only team we were doing that to. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:38 And by we, I mean I was watching that team. Saw the same jersey on them. A lot of me doing this. Yeah, a lot of me doing, all right, boys. Go for two. Go for two. No, no, no. Let's keep those points going.
Starting point is 00:27:50 So I think the college football season this year is going to be heavy at the top, right? And then everybody else is going to get worked? So it's really heavy, Bama, Ohio State. Is this what's going to happen with NIL? Is this going to continue to be the case? Because I thought USC just spent all the fucking money. How are they not even up in their top? Or is it just people don't know?
Starting point is 00:28:08 Well, he's taking USC. I mean, that program was after Clay. What Clay Helton did to that program was a goddamn travesty. Okay. After Pete Carroll and then fucking what happened in there. So, like, it may take more than a year for USC. I mean, they did get a lot of fucking recruits in there. They got, like, the best running back from there. They got the best running back from Oregon.
Starting point is 00:28:25 They got the best running back from Pitt. Obviously, they got one of the better quarterbacks from Oklahoma. So USC's going to be okay. Utah is another team in Pac-12 that's supposed to be really good. They're returning everybody. They almost beat Ohio State in the Rose Bowl last year. But it's Ohio State, Bama, Georgia. Georgia!
Starting point is 00:28:43 Because they only bring back three guys on defense because nine got drafted but I mean they'll probably just reload or whatever and then you know you still have Clemson if they can find a quarterback but it's probably going to be Ohio State and Bama. Well I can't wait for this evening. I can't wait to watch and get started and I can't wait for the fact that
Starting point is 00:29:00 we are seven days away from NFL football. Let's go! Wait until September. Hey, where's September? It's here now. How about it being September already? Welcome to fall. Welcome to football season.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Huge. We battled through the global warming problem. We certainly experienced this. Yeah, and I'm not so sure we might not have a fucking 88-degree day within the next week or so. No. I don't want to get too excited because I did. It was crisp this morning. I put my sweatshirt on i said this last weekend it was fucking 95 degrees
Starting point is 00:29:29 so why am i getting ahead of myself thinking that this is just here to stay i hope it is but listen beggars can't be choosers when it's ice cold and there's no sun for four or five months here in indianapolis we'll be begging for the summer days and we'll say hey give us the 99 120 humidity just completely getting baked anytime you walk outside weather sure that's and we'll say hey give us the 99 120 humidity just completely getting baked anytime you walk outside weather sure that's what we'll say then but right now i'm fucking sick of that weather yeah me too and i am pumped that it's september it has a little crispness to the sky to the to the air right now smells like football getting into football season yeah and we somehow have made it to september d but how's the feel? You're retired now at this point.
Starting point is 00:30:05 But I feel like all of us that have ever played football, get a little antsy around training camp time. Get a little antsy around season time. Let's fucking go, huh? Yeah, I'm ready. Let's have an NFL season, D-Butt. Ready to roll. This is going to be, obviously, an exciting one for me.
Starting point is 00:30:18 But the league, man. There's so many changes, so many moving parts. Different quarterbacks in different places. Top wide receivers move. New coaches. My Dolphins look ready. We got a tour. We got guys, Mike McDann, new coach.
Starting point is 00:30:31 So I'm excited, man. It's going to be a hell of a year. A lot of storylines going in there. Let's go ahead and talk about one that just broke this morning. Russell Wilson has agreed to terms or signed the paper to renegotiate or extend his current contract that he negotiated with the Seattle Seahawks with the richest owner in the NFL the Denver Broncos Russell Wilson and the Broncos have agreed to terms on a five-year 245 million dollar extension he gets a hundred and sixty
Starting point is 00:31:01 five million guaranteed that's officially locked in now he has two years remaining on his current deal so they think that this is actually totally a seven year deal worth 296 million dollars he is 34 years old 165 million of that guaranteed so this conversation automatically leads million guaranteed let's ride locked into Denver for seven years let's ride we got the richest owner in all the NFL let's ride is what his agent said whenever he went in there to renegotiate and get this thing a little bit longer let's get the let's get the business long term. Let's get this partnership to really mean something. Let's go to work right here. And that is awesome for Russell Wilson. Awesome for the Broncos. Congratulations to everybody.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Now, what does this mean for Lamar Jackson, Joey Burrow, and everybody else that's going to be looking for a deal? Russell Wilson has already been paid. This will be his third contract that he's made. So it's not his first contract like Lamar, Joey Burrow, and Kyler Murray was just seeking a couple weeks ago. But the $165 million guaranteed as opposed to the full contract being guaranteed, everybody on the Internet is saying this is bad news for Lamar Jackson. Other people on the Internet, agents around the NFL, are saying Russell Wilson just did the NFL a favor. He got this deal done with not a fully guaranteed so that nobody else expects it.
Starting point is 00:32:29 First, Kyler didn't do it. Now Russell Wilson, who's already won a Super Bowl, is Russell Wilson. He's not taking a fully guaranteed deal. So now no other quarterbacks can expect a fully guaranteed deal. Now that's a very negative way to look at it. 165M is guaranteed for your third contract is a hell of a fucking deal. But what does this mean for
Starting point is 00:32:47 Lamar Jackson going forward? I think he still has his exact same business group that he had a day ago, and I think he will going into whenever the negotiation finally ends. Shouldn't mean shit when it comes to Lamar. He should be in his own ballpark. Like we just said, Russell
Starting point is 00:33:03 will be 34 this year. You know, Lamar is 25, so he has at least another 10 years, you would expect, ahead of him. I'm still sitting in the same place. You give Lamar four years, 200 and some change, make him the highest paid, make him the highest paid annually, do right by him. And then he's back at the table before 30. And, you know, the Ravens, they can make another decision three, four years down the line if they want to move on. But I don't think this changed it for Lamar. Great, great deal for Russ.
Starting point is 00:33:31 I think so. 34 years. Everybody's like, oh, this fucked Lamar. I'm like, what, dude? This is another. Okay, so you get rich if you get drafted early and you make your first contract. Second contract, you're kind of sniffing the upper richness. You get rich if you get drafted early and you make your first contract. Yep. Second contract, you're kind of sniffing the upper richness. You get wealthy in like your third, fourth contracts, which is where Russell is.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Lamar is still on his rookie contract. Yeah. So acting like that contract that Russell just signed is anything like what Deshaun or what Lamar should sign. Very different. Now, the Deshaun one, I guess you could also say because he got paid by Houston already, but it's in the division. He didn't finish that, and he's still in his spot.
Starting point is 00:34:09 So it's like, Lamar should not change his tune at all, I don't think. Even though everybody on the internet's like, he's going to fucking ruin it for Lamar. It's like, not if I'm Lamar. If I'm Lamar,
Starting point is 00:34:19 it's like, hey, good for Russ. Look at that. Way to go, Russ. Way to go. Now, for me, Deshaun would fucking, this guy. Yeah, we still up here, but I need the first one. Way to go. Now for me, Deshaun would fucking this guy. Yeah, we're still up here. We need the first one. I don't know what you're
Starting point is 00:34:29 thinking. If Russ was a rookie and had accomplished what Lamar has accomplished, his agent and his deal would be looking for exactly what Deshaun's doing. So I don't think this changes fucking shit. No, I feel like if anything, like guys who have already had their deals, like Josh Allen and Mahomes and probably even you could maybe throw Kyler in.
Starting point is 00:34:47 It's like, oh, okay, so now when I turn 34, this is kind of like the base. Or even when I turn 30, 32, because Mahomes, what? He'll be at the end of his 10-year deal when he's around 34, 35. So now he knows that's how much he can get. Do you remember we were live too about how much that was worth? Oh, yeah. 470. My home's deal looks better every day for the Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Yes. Every day. It was supposed to be a $500 million deal. Then it ended up being like a $460 million deal. It's like, well, that's $40 million. I mean, I guess we're just throwing away millions at this point. But $40 million is a lot of fucking million dollars just to throw away. They're like, yeah, we reported that.
Starting point is 00:35:25 It's like, no, you didn't. So we don't know what's real and what isn't, I guess, at this point. We can assume this rough steal was real. Yeah, for sure. And the Mahomes deal, it was awesome in the beginning, but isn't there kind of some thought, because the way that deal was structured is why they couldn't keep Tyreek Hill around? Because of how big his money number was? No, they couldn't keep anybody around.
Starting point is 00:35:41 Don't even think about falling into that trap. What are you doing? I'm just saying, he's what, $70 million this year? What's that guy all about? Can't be doing it, dude. Can't be doing it. It doesn't matter. You need a smack in the mouth.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Yeah, it does. You're trying to fall into, I'm going into network TV real quick. What's this about? It's got to matter because it happens. These teams lose guys. It doesn't happen. I know it. I disagree.
Starting point is 00:36:02 It just happened with A.J. Brown in Tennessee. They couldn't sign him. They could have signed Tyreek. Tyreek hated Jackson Mahomes. What do you think? Do you think it was the money or the burial of Jackson Mahomes? I think it was definitely the money. I think he wanted to catch the most accurate ball in the league from Tua.
Starting point is 00:36:15 I mean, there's a lot of conversations here that could be had. Who has the most accurate throwing arm in all of the NFL? Tyreek said Tua, and he said, I'm done with this. Get me out of here. They could have paid him if they wanted to pay him, I think. Because they could have restructured Patrick Mahomes. Packers could have paid Devontae. Tried to. Tried to. Tried to pay him where he
Starting point is 00:36:31 got in Las Vegas. But couldn't because of the guarantees, right? Because of the numbers. You can structure it, though, in any particular fashion. He could take a $1 million salary this year. They could fucking structure this thing to just run this whole thing out. If they really want to keep somebody, they can. That is what we have learned.
Starting point is 00:36:48 What has happened to you? You honestly sound like Mike Florio right now. No, because these teams have to pay for it eventually. They don't, though. You sound exactly like what these people sound like. It happened to New England. I saw it, at least, with New England after the end of Brady's whole run because it stacked up. Granted, it's only for one year,
Starting point is 00:37:06 but if you want to keep guys in there, probably ain't giving them the top dollar. Someone's got to pay for it eventually. No, that's not real. The only thing that happens, I guess, is if your quarterback does leave. Tom left. Drew Brees left down in the Saints, so they had to fucking pay for that. They had to cut like nine or ten guys or whatever.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Still able to keep a lot of their top guys. But I think with the way the salary cap gymnastics has been popping off, I think you can literally pay anybody anything and keep them forever. I honestly believe that, if you want to. The Patrick Mahomes thing, it is interesting, because that was originally reported as 10-year, $500 million. It's like, God damn, half a billion dollars to play football is a lot of money. But in a couple years, it feels like that's going to be like a two,
Starting point is 00:37:43 three-year deal. I was going to say. To keep Tyreek, they could have done that too. He's going to. They would have to. That's why they – Plus, he's the face of the league pretty much, or one of them. And so he's already, what, part owner of the Royals. So I'm sure he's making State Farm.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Didn't Tom renegotiate like every couple years? Yeah, every couple years. But he, again, was not making less money, but he wasn't making the top dollar that everyone wants now. He was getting it all in signing bonus though instead, right? Yeah, some of it. But he still wasn't like year to year in that top five. Even now.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Where is he at this year? He's making like 20 something. He's still very low. And he just could have won the MVP. He was right there neck and neck with A-Rod for the MVP last year, and he's making like 20-something. He's still very low. And he just could have won the MVP. He was right there neck and neck with A-Rod for the MVP last year, and he's making. A lot of people argue he should have won the MVP last year. Sorry about it.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Didn't do the show. That's right. The show wins every week. Jim Gray doesn't have the juice. They are back, though. They are back. Hey, let's go. Season two.
Starting point is 00:38:40 I'm sure Jim will ask the tough questions about everything. Yeah, the show won't suck. So, 20 seasons in New England, Tom Brady made $235 million. Yes. Russell Wilson playing zero seasons in Denver, $235 million going for the next seven years. It's a different world. It's a different game.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Salary cap is different too. God bless America. And with that owner, that Robson Walton guy having all the cash, they can just cash over cap everybody. Yeah. They can literally just move along. How you doing? Keep moving.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Can I say something stupid? Sure. You said it's a seven-year deal? It's a five-year extension. Two years left. Okay. Two years left, Baltimore. I mean, Russ hasn't been the most healthy of guys recently.
Starting point is 00:39:22 What? Because his mallet finger? You're talking about his mallet finger? Has he even played really good the last two seasons? That's a better question. Whoa. I mean, that's fair. What are you saying? And you want to rush into his upper 30s.
Starting point is 00:39:36 What are the Broncos doing? Well, it's at home to Tony Wolford and Jared Goff, who had a broken finger. That team, though. Seattle, I mean, he's running for his life up there. They're sick of watching Trevor Simeon sling the ball around. They'll pay Russell. Trevor Simeon.
Starting point is 00:39:52 No offense, Drew Locke. We like Drew Locke. Probably a great dude, if we had to guess. Drew Locke, Brock Osweiler, they paid. They're done with it. Flacco. Flacco. Flacco, dog, by the way. Paxton Lynch.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Paxton Lynch. Number two. Hey, he looked like the V for Vendetta mask, the anonymous mask. Yep. That guy. He's got a mustache and the perfect jaw. That's a good point. They just, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:15 I mean, Guy Fawkes. Great point. Yeah, Guy Fawkes. Also, anymore, it doesn't matter because these guys are spending how many millions of dollars on their bodies. I think the age of when you can play quarterback is changing like it's not i mean granted now if you get your fucking brains blasted in like that's different but outside of last year russ has been healthy you know and i think that was a big part of like their offensive line should be better in denver
Starting point is 00:40:38 it was really bad in seattle for what like the last three four years like he he he said he wants to play another 10 years there. Who's to say that he's not going to play? He seems like he's kind of got that Brady in him, like a little bit wacko, like would really like to play as long as he could. He might end up playing until he's 45. His mallet finger, too, he could have played with it probably.
Starting point is 00:41:03 I mean, when he couldn't play, he was playing. That's right. That was awesome. You hear that from Denver, too. This guy loves the football. Yeah, his walkthrough is like something they've never seen before. It's what a lot of players on Denver were doing. Full pads and walkthrough.
Starting point is 00:41:13 You heard about this? He wore his jersey. Hey, it's worked for him thus far. You know, he's already had a Hall of Fame career. You look at his pass for reigning, obviously winning the Super Bowl. He didn't miss any games up until a mallet fingership. Now I feel like this is going to be a different phase of his career. This is going to be the career where now he has to more so carry these teams as far as on his arm, letting Russ really cook.
Starting point is 00:41:41 Can he do that last couple years? Even when he came back from that finger injury, he didn't play great last year. He didn't. And he had good weapons on the outside. Metcalf, Lockett, not a great old line. They were kind of a run-first team. So it's going to be interesting going into this year with Hackett, who A-Rod speaks very highly of. He's got
Starting point is 00:41:58 some weapons. Lost one of them with Tim Patrick, the deep shot guy, but still got some good receivers. So it'll be interesting. A lot of money, but what's your alternative at this point? And if the salary cap continues to go up, which everybody's projecting and predicting, is it a lot of money? Because they'll be able to do the cash over cap with him or anybody else. They're going to sign guys, too.
Starting point is 00:42:16 I mean, Denver has a lot of selling points for guys. I know everybody thinks like Miami in L.A. and Tampa is, you know, no state income tax is obviously a massive advantage as well. So Vegas is going to take advantage of that over in L.A. and Tampa is, you know, no state income tax is obviously a massive advantage as well. So Vegas is going to take advantage of that over in Nevada. But like Denver has some selling points to a lot of people. And if they it is nice, isn't it? That's beautiful. I've been to Denver and there's other places you mentioned.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Well, I understand that. But a lot of guys like come from, you know, Florida, Texas, California, Louisiana, Georgia. So if they, at the end of their careers, get an opportunity to travel back to the warm weather, then it doesn't hurt every single day you wake up. Guys do that. But if you've got a quarterback, and Denver's going to have a lot of cash behind it with this Robson Walton,
Starting point is 00:42:57 a lot of cash behind it, and Denver is a – you could sell Denver to people. Look for them to get not just some weapons for Russ, but look for them to be in the market for a lot of weapons for Russ. And what Russ wanted whenever he was in Seattle, I want to be remembered as top five quarterback all the time. And the way we're playing with the offensive line we have, we don't know if that was a real quote or not, but that was allegedly his big gripe.
Starting point is 00:43:18 So they're going to try to get him as many weapons as possible, I would assume. And with the cash flow that is now available with the richest owner in the NFL being there, Robson Walton, this is not just a this year thing, I think. And that's why they wanted to lock in Russ long-term. They are going to spend some fucking money over there in Mile High. Yeah, like we say, it's a lot of money. It's not for this guy.
Starting point is 00:43:37 He could wipe his ass with that. It doesn't matter. He could do this deal 100 times over and it could be terrible every time. It's like, who gives a fuck? Are people still in a Walmart parking lot? Exactly. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:43:48 Like, you know, and he probably has no idea either. You know, I wouldn't be surprised if he went in there and he's like, so what, are we going to give Russ $500 million guaranteed? Or, oh, he only wants $165 million. Okay, well, fuck it. Yeah. $165 million, we gave that to fucking some city in Arkansas. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:00 What are we even, Russell Wilson? Yeah. Are you kidding me? Give him $200 million for his troubles. Can we give him another card? So I saw the Rolls Royce. It was an outdated version. Can we get him a new one or that?
Starting point is 00:44:08 That is real. Whenever you get that owner that has that amount of money and hopefully that aggressive, which we can only judge him off his brother-in-law, which is Cronky with the Rams. How long has he been there? A while. A long time.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Been there a while? Yeah. Was he in St. Louis? Well, he's the one who... Yeah. And by the way, was he in St. Louis Yeah Well he's The one who Yeah And by the way Fucked up
Starting point is 00:44:28 St. Louis did not deserve that Hey we love St. Louis Go Battle Hawks Go Wheelhouse To the brunch Yep The best Diva this brunch place was
Starting point is 00:44:36 Electrifying I'm leaving St. Louis For LA too Not if you've been To Wheelhouse It's clear that Kroenke Never went to Wheelhouse Yeah or Bush Stadium
Starting point is 00:44:44 You think it was Bush Stadium maybe Yeah Cardinals games Are a great environment Yeah Not if you've been to Wheelhouse. It's clear that Kroenke never went to Wheelhouse. Yeah, or Busch Stadium. You think it was Busch Stadium maybe? Yeah, Cardinals games are a great environment. I assume that's because everybody goes to Wheelhouse first and then they go there. I don't doubt it. What was it, 11.30 in the morning? It was early. 11.30 in the morning, just full on.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Were the Blues in the playoffs at that time? I don't know if they were in the playoffs, but it was a Blues game. They had a game at 2 o'clock. And the Cardinals, didn't they have a game as well? I think that evening, yeah, and then Royal Rumble was in time. Yes, there it is. I mean, it was prime for the wheelhouse.
Starting point is 00:45:11 I'll tell you what, they hit a home run. Good day in the gateway to the West. That's right. And you look at that arch and you go, this is a good city. And then Fox will remember it because he was taking so many shots at wheelhouse. This guy was on a shot ski, fucking 11.35 a.m. It was impossible not to that's how awesome that place sounds like
Starting point is 00:45:27 i'm like can i please get a uh yeah a little wakey wakey yeah can i get some b's and g's in this place yeah we do it you do have biscuits and gravy yeah all right i'll take those foxy give me uh two shots keys what I'll find some friends here. What? A little cold beer. What? What is that, vodka? What?
Starting point is 00:45:49 What type of vodka? What? Tito's? What? Handmade? What? Give me 14 of those. What?
Starting point is 00:45:55 Yeah, Foxy really went after it. They had two DJs at 11.30 a.m. Two different rooms, fully bumping, 11.30 a.m. In the back, DJ having a good time. A couple windows windows place fucking banana land like it is 1 30 a.m this place then another room full sports bar feel place going crazy and then i was eating biscuits and gravy at the fucking yeah great great biscuits and gravy this city is missing one of those. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:27 Wheelhouse would do very well if it was in Indianapolis. But to be honest, I don't even know if the laws would allow Wheelhouse to exist. You're not allowed to have a happy hour here in this state. Really? We also got people getting shot and killed just right downtown. Not just people. True. Special fucking forces. Dutch special forces.
Starting point is 00:46:41 I don't know if... Yeah, it's like that. Yeah. That's great. Seals of Holland. St. Louis was like the murder capital of the world for a long time. Not around wheelhouse.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Not around wheelhouse. US. Probably not the world. You can break a lot of bread in wheelhouse. You can put your differences aside. Hell yeah. That's right. Shout out to wheelhouse, dude. That place was awesome. A couple other things happened around the world of NFL.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Jimmy G will practice with the 49ers for the first time this year today. Here we go, Jimmy. He's been watching their practices from afar, behind the media, behind the fans on another field, so he can go and rehab his surgically repaired throwing shoulder that happened offseason. He's been doing that away from the team, away from the meetings. So if there's no confusion on who
Starting point is 00:47:25 the starting quarterback is, this is Trey Lance's team. That's right. Oh, yeah. Well, well, well. There's a fucking handsome Italian guy on that field right over there. He's led us to a Super Bowl and an NFC Championship whenever he's healthy. When he's hurt, we fucking suck, but, I mean, maybe,
Starting point is 00:47:42 right? We saw what that guy was missing throws. Let's bring him back. Bang! Will you restructure your deal to make a lot less money than what you're guaranteed, but probably more than what you would make on the market if you were to be cut right now? Jimmy says yes. He's back in there. He's back at practice. Will there be rusty? But no.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Jimmy's been around, right? He knows the deal. He'll be sharp. He's been in the building, too. He's been rehabbing in the building. It's not that big of a deal, is it? Knows the offense. And it'll be, I mean, He'll be getting scout team reps now.
Starting point is 00:48:06 It's going to be an interesting dynamic. I hope that locker room can handle it. Great move for Jimmy. Trey, man, that's tough on Trey. Trey was asked by Shanahan about how he's going to handle the situation, if it'll be okay or whatever. I don't know if Shanahan was asking for approval
Starting point is 00:48:21 to bring back Jimmy G. It's a good conversation to have. It is a great conversation. I don't think you can say, hey, Trey, it's your second year. You've played next to no football. Do you mind if we do something? But Shanahan at least talking to him is a smart move and a smart play in setting the dynamic up for the rest of the year.
Starting point is 00:48:37 When I told Trey that Jimmy was going to come back, he said, awesome. That dude was awesome for me last year. When you have a quarterback room that likes each other, it makes it more enjoyable to come to work, says Trey to Shanahan to Shanahan to the reporters. There we go. Settled. Not a problem at all, it sounds like.
Starting point is 00:48:52 Settled. Yeah. Feels pretty good. Also, story's over. I know it's been kind of tongue-in-cheek, and I don't know who they play the first week. Chicago. Okay, so probably not.
Starting point is 00:49:01 But what if the 49ers go three and out on their first three possessions and the Bears score like two touchdowns and they're down like 14-0 in the first quarter? Isn't the allure to be like, all right, fuck it, bring in Jimmy G. That's going to happen. So that's what I've been saying this entire time. And a lot of media people told me that I'm a child and I don't know what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:49:20 But it's going to be hard for me, just as somebody who has sat on a sideline of a lot of games, lot of games i've been on sideline front row seat heard conversations that most people don't get to hear watch the game from a better perspective than everybody else got to as soon as somebody starts sucking that isn't necessarily you know like it's hard for everybody else on the team let's be like hey why don't we fucking just – Impossible. It's impossible for people not to do that. Even if you have as little input on strategy or the game as the fucking punter, it's hard not to be like, hey, when we were running like two-minute offense, we were fucking going right down the field.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Is there anybody? Who can we talk to? Hey, how come you guys aren't fucking doing this? Like that happens. These are just natural things that take place. If Trey comes out there and he's throwing these fucking Tim Wakefield balls that he was throwing against Houston, it is going to be hard for everybody. And that's why I've said this.
Starting point is 00:50:09 It's going to be hard for everybody not to be like, okay, maybe a couple weeks. We give Trey a couple more weeks. It's going to be difficult. I honestly believe that. Yeah, it's tough. I don't think as early as the first game, but A.B. asked me this on the pod this morning. A man-to-man podcast. Man-to-man pod.
Starting point is 00:50:23 So he asked me, kind of put the GM head coach hat on, you know, what do you do if you get the week, you know, five, one and four, you know, or if they're two and two, what do you do? If they're one and four, I'm like, hey, we just keep Robert Trey. We keep Robert Trey. We got to go. We're all invested in this. Shanahan and Lynch, they already signed an extension.
Starting point is 00:50:42 They're going to be good. You know, you're kind of two and two but the quarterback is thinking now you maybe make a switch you know you're 500 three and two one and four we're dead one and four you kind of you kind of did oh and four you know it's different so um it really depends but as a player you can't take any years for granted like as a coach as a gym maybe you can say okay to trust the process type shit but as a player that doesn't exist you don't want to be a free agent you know coming off of five and twelve football team like you want to win every year ab played 14 years and went to two super bowls i i played not only you had one afc championship appearance like you don't you never know when
Starting point is 00:51:18 you're gonna get there if you can ever get back so the players it get quick you know two three four games like shit this guy practices even, this guy's jimmies. Practices even, though. They'll see him practice. Like, all these conversations that they're going to have to somehow monitor so they don't become actual cancers in the locker room. And that sounds like such a shot at the locker room, and I don't mean it to be because there's OGs in that locker room. There's a lot of people that are supposed to, you know,
Starting point is 00:51:41 kind of take care of the vibes of the locker room. That's a big part of a team-building process. But just natural human instinct is like, this guy's impossible to get a hold of in the offseason because he's probably on an island fucking somebody. But, like, whenever he's on our team and he's playing for us, we win. Like, it's going to be very difficult not to do that, especially with a team that's ready to go.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Like, that team's ready to fucking go right now, and all know it i just i love trey i hope trey is incredible i think what um we were told by lombardi himself yesterday like hey there's days where trey's unstoppable so i think us just assuming trey's gonna suck is also kind of a slight i don't know if that's necessarily the case but if he does i'm not assuming he the case, but if he does, I'm not assuming he's going to suck, but if he does, it's going to get fucking loud. And that's just, I don't know how you stop that. I don't know how you stop humans that have a direct benefit or direct loss from somebody else's performance from not having an opinion of like. You don't because he hasn't earned it. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:42 When you watch those games, he only played, what, a handful of games, and you're like, has this guy earned this, or is this happening because he has a third overall pick and they gave up a lot of drafts? That means he earned it. That's what that means. That's why we don't know how you fucking monitor. I don't know how you monitor. Well, even if they're 1-4.
Starting point is 00:53:00 Like, last year they started off terrible, and they still made it around the playoffs. Like, if you're 1-4 and you look at that back after the schedule like we looked at yesterday, the first five games are probably the easiest. It only gets harder. If you go with Jimmy, you might have a chance to sneak in, but
Starting point is 00:53:14 why would you just quit on the season at 1-4? The Colts even. The Colts started off terrible. The Patriots started off terrible. And then what? And then they made a run. You guys. Actually, we did lose the last game of the season, but we were already off terrible. And then what? And then they made a run. You guys. And then, you know, we didn't lose. Actually, we did lose the last game of the season, but we were already clinched. You guys lost the last game of the season.
Starting point is 00:53:30 What did Lambeau say to us? Lambeau said, good teams start good. Start and finish. He said, like, the storyline is always, oh, this team could get good. And he's like, stats tell us that that's not. Yeah. Like, teams that don't start good aren't going to win the Super Bowl. And I wanted to combat him immediately and be like,
Starting point is 00:53:46 no, no, the Giants. Remember, Coughlin was about to get fired middle of the season. They were like, whatever it was. And then they went on a run. They win the Super Bowl. They beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl. And then I wanted to think of another example. And I just couldn't do it.
Starting point is 00:54:02 It was like, I just couldn't. The Packers, right? So while he was giving his answer, I couldn't really.. It was like, I just couldn't. The Packers, right? So while he was giving his answer, I couldn't really. Yeah, two times, though. Oh, no, exactly. In like 20 years or 30 years. I mean, it is like teams got to start good. So if you don't start good, I think to back up what Darius was saying,
Starting point is 00:54:19 stats say you're probably going to be fucked anyways. You might as well give Trey an entire season, I think is what you would say. I mean, they're tied to him. They're tied to his success, Lynch and Shanahan. He has to be good at some point. They signed Jimmy, too, though. You got Jimmy. You got no Trey Claus, so you can't just ride that wave this year
Starting point is 00:54:34 and give Trey another year and then have some Trey packages maybe. But, you know, Trey's got to be good. And it's unfair to him. Trey can be good. It's unfair to him because, once again, you look at the crop of quarterbacks, the guys that did play the full year last year, Mack Jones, Lawrence, Zach Wilson, Justin Fields, most of those guys struggled mightily, except for Mack.
Starting point is 00:54:55 Mack had a pretty good year, but it's a lot on his plate. Noble. He had a pretty good year in Noble, but still got absolutely tattooed in the playoffs. Yeah, that's the rookie quarterback yeah that's spent 150 which what they're gonna have to go through kind of this year with niners gonna have to go through he's gonna be a rookie it's his first time seeing a lot of shit yeah that's what's so you get into a big game when it matters like mac did like there's a chance teams are gonna do a little shit a little bit different than maybe everybody else did because
Starting point is 00:55:24 it's the playoffs and it matters. And that's when the inexperience fucking, here it is, especially in a position where you have to dissect shit. It's just natural. I don't know. I feel like we're all staring down the same outcome here. If Trey is an anomaly and comes in and is just freak show, Jimmy G will be an incredible backup like he was, I assume,
Starting point is 00:55:43 Tom Brady will be able to do it. But if he struggles at all with that team, it's going to get loud. Football is here. Two massive college football games tonight. The Toxic Table looks fantastic. At Ty Schmidt, at Boston Corner, one half of the hammer.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Dodd Cowboys, Tone Diggs is also here. And back again live in stew with some fresh air maxes on, ladies and gentlemen, Darius J. Butler. Hey, it's been great having you here, man. It's been great to be here, man. Honestly. It's been fun. Connor and Foxy are unbelievable shooters, aren't they?
Starting point is 00:56:23 They're locked in. Me and Foxy, we went toe-to-toe yesterday. He got me in the end. Yeah. I mean, that's going to happen again. He was locked in. He started to beat it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:33 Yeah, he's got a clean jump. He's hit from three or two. You got to get on him. I don't know how he is in games. Might get a little winded. I don't know how it is with hand and face, but I do tell you this. That net is broken over there, the chain net, because Foxy's a fucking sniper. I've seen it firsthand.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Connor has become one as well. For now. You know why? Connor just got dunked on by Foxy, even by me. Connor just getting fucking ruined in this office. This dude want to work. We're talking like 100 makes a night before leaving the office. Like he's a kid again.
Starting point is 00:57:03 And then all of a sudden he showed up and it was Splash Town. He was getting real loud, talking to, calling people out. I mean, that's what you're potentially running into in this office. People fuck around coming to this office and they have no idea what they're about to get. I'm 0 for 3 in this motherfucker right now.
Starting point is 00:57:16 But I'm going to make my mark in the Thunderdome. I got something for the ass. You know, Thunderdome has the opportunity to open it up a little bit. Thunderdome has a, you know, it's going to have a little bit more space, a little bit of a run. Yeah. Not only does the running involve a little bit more cardio and athleticism, there's also more time to like kind of talk, you know, because in a lot of these shooting games, things are quick. When you're going back from one end to the other, there's a lot of, hey, that was a good shot.
Starting point is 00:57:41 That wasn't bad there. A little strong, right? A little strong. And then bang, we're back on the other end. Now you're fighting a three front war. Yes. You know, athleticism is a problem. That wasn't bad there. A little strong, right? A little strong. And then, bang, we're back on the other end. Now you're fighting a three-front war. Yes. You know, athleticism is a problem. You're getting your chirped at.
Starting point is 00:57:49 Your mental is battling. And the hoop gets smaller as your vision gets a little bit more tired. So I think the Thunderdome is going to bring out a lot of more aspects from all of our games. Good. I'm looking forward to it. Oh, you're looking forward to it. Goddamn right.
Starting point is 00:58:01 I heard Darius, I don't want to break any news that is his, but five white dudes beat Darius in four hours. Oh, no. YMCA. YMCA. YMCA. What the hell happened? What happened, D-Buck?
Starting point is 00:58:15 D-Buck. That's what happened. Cooper Cup. Cooper Cup. Cooper Cup. Cooper Cup. Jesus. Cooper Cup at the Y down here in Indiana.
Starting point is 00:58:26 He said, I'm not going back. He said, I'll do these little shooting games with you guys. I can't go back to Ursae's Y last night. Not allowed. Five. The level of competition was not up to par. Oh. And you still lost.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Oh, my gosh. We're not playing any defense. Nobody. I just can't. I can't play like that, man. It's got to be something. I got to have my juices flowing. But Connor didn't tell me the schedule when the real guys show up.
Starting point is 00:58:50 So I'll be there when the real guys show up. So the thing about it is there is certain pickup styles. I enjoy the style that you are saying is not competitive enough. It's basically a shooting game that you're just jogging from one side to the other. No fast breaks. Yeah, you're just jogging. One person's bringing it down Exactly, no fast breaks. Yeah, you're just jogging. One person's bringing it down. One person will do a fake cut, get to a spot.
Starting point is 00:59:09 The other person kind of trailing, hey, I'm doing some cardio. But really, it's just whether or not who's going to make the most amount of open shots that we're kind of passing around to. That's a great style. You don't have to worry about rolling your ankle ever. Nope. Don't have to worry about rebounding. Rebounding is a thing.
Starting point is 00:59:23 And if you get a steal, it's strictly because the pass was an errant one yes it's not because you actually made a play yeah all-star game rules that's how you know the thunderdome game seems to be no fast no no no i i do believe darius is looking for actual games yeah well when d-bug comes to you know when he comes to the office fine you know You know, I'll strap him up. Are you going to smack the floor? I'll smack the floor. Oh, I don't know. Who are we playing to? 21.
Starting point is 00:59:49 11. Not 21. Gotta be quick games. This fucking asshole. One time. Have you ever heard somebody play to 21 in a pickup game? Never. Never?
Starting point is 00:59:57 Never. So we go to the Y to play. I'm like, all right, this is going to be my cardio. I forget what it was. 21. I'm going to get in shape. It was 4-0 at this point. I think we were up. I met
Starting point is 01:00:08 in a deal. I made a deal with the guy that I was guarding. We were playing all-star rules. We were doing that. So I'm sitting over here on the wing. I had a couple points. I had a couple steals. Did a little bit of running, but I wasn't doing what fucking Connor and this guy were trying to prove. I don't know what these guys were trying to prove. The guy dribbles down. He goes,
Starting point is 01:00:23 what are we playing to? And Connor, without even thinking, 21. And I'm like, hurry. I'm sitting on the wing. I go, what? 21? I can't even breathe. It's fucking 4-2 right now. And we played at 15, I think.
Starting point is 01:00:37 I walked off the court. Yeah, I played at 15. I said 21 because after the 4-0, I looked around and said, oh, okay, so I'm never going to play with these guys again. So we might as well make it until 21. Oh, you want to have a good time. There's no chance they're coming back to the Y after this one. Yeah, we were playing against some guys.
Starting point is 01:00:49 Can't do that. If it's really competitive, nine, make it quick. Get a lot of games. A lot of people waiting. Usually like 11, 12 is what you go. First games. Ones and twos, yeah? Ones and twos, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:59 You shooting twos or no? Yeah, I'm shooting twos. I got a mid-range game, which people don't see often. You know, everybody's shooting threes now. Steph Curry, he messed up pickup basketball. Guys dribbling down, pulling up from NBA range, but I thrive in that mid-range. You're not scared to get underneath that and then in the miscommunication of who's playing where, just a little elbow jump or Jimmy Butler off the bank.
Starting point is 01:01:20 Joining us now is a man who's in Anatic in Ohio who will also be in the studio once a week. Will his knees be able to handle the style of basketball that we're going to play at the Thunderdome? We shall see. off the bank. Joining us now is a man who's in Anatic in Ohio who will also be in the studio once a week. Will his knees be able to handle the style of basketball that we're going to play at the Thunderdome? We shall see. He's a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers, Ryder Cup champion,
Starting point is 01:01:35 and COVID survivor multi-time. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawk. Hey, A.J. A.J., how you doing? What's up? I'm on board for the NBA All-Star rules. Absolutely. You need to prove to me that you can make threes enough to beat.
Starting point is 01:01:48 Exactly. And I'll do this, too. I'll do this. I'll do this effort. I'll even turn and box out a little bit if it's a long rebound. Yeah, if you have to. I mean, if I'm seeing the trajectory of that ball and it's either going right or left and that rebound's not coming straight back, I'm going down the other end.
Starting point is 01:02:04 I'm already headed the opposite direction. Oh, yeah, I'm posted up in the corner already yelling for the ball. Absolutely. I don't think Darius would like to play with us, I don't think. It sounds like. I hate defense in basketball. Have you seen any of the videos this motherfucking guy's put on Instagram of him playing?
Starting point is 01:02:19 Unbelievable. No, I'm at the age and the stage where you're just getting, like, best case scenario is a broken ankle. Like, we're probably tearing Achilles. Yes. I think both Achilles probably going like we're caboli. Sure. There was the fucking, like, the, you know,
Starting point is 01:02:34 the Michael Jordan gif exactly on the back of it where he, like, slows down and comes back. Darius is doing that to random fucks in these pickup games around LA Fitnesses and whatever gyms he's playing at on a regular. You can fuck around and be like, oh yeah, I'm playing a little pickup basketball. Pick up the cardio real quick. I haven't played in a while. And then you run into a Darius Butler and it's
Starting point is 01:02:53 dead. Oh my God. And then he's talking shit while doing that ain't gonna work. Just ruining people's lives. If you don't use it, you lose it, man. I gotta keep it. That's the only place I can really, you know, compete. Do you have, like, a team of guys? No.
Starting point is 01:03:10 So our gym and a lot of these gyms after the pandemic shut down. So, like, my 24-hour fitness down there shut down. So we had to find different places. So now it's kind of more coordinated where we actually get together and we're in a gym. So that way the people that show up you know they're playing you're playing good ball everybody's taking care
Starting point is 01:03:27 of each other too everybody got work the next day nobody's getting paid to be here so it's high intensity that's not the videos I see he's posting
Starting point is 01:03:34 that guy those are young those are like college football players so that's when you're smelling yourself you're talking shit oh it's the old guys
Starting point is 01:03:41 like alright so that's different how many like retired here's D but just fucking around in flip flops how you doing keep it moving this is my birthday Talking shit. Oh, it's the old guys. All right. So that's different. How many retired? Here's D-Bud just fucking around in flip flops. How you doing? Keep it moving. This is my birthday. I did that in the office yesterday.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Just the easiest dunk of all time. Effortless. Hey, floats, dude. You got to make sure you still got it, man. One of the greatest athletes of all time. How old are you? 36. You're old as fuck, dude.
Starting point is 01:03:59 Yeah, holy shit. Oh, my God. Jesus Christ. Yeah, we will fucking play with your fucking old ass. That's why these whites are beating the fuck out of you at YMCA and pick up basketball, D-Bud. Old D-Bud that I knew, not old D-Bud. Yes.
Starting point is 01:04:12 I'm talking old D-Bud. Previous D-Bud. Never a shot at five whites from Indiana fucking slicing and dicing. Was it five on one? It was bad, man. It was bad. I had literally no – it's bad. I assume it was five on one, them against D it's bad. I assume it was cherry picking.
Starting point is 01:04:26 I can't play like that. Well, I think that's how D-Bot would have probably ended up playing, but he was probably trying to be kosher. He said a lot of people were telling him when games were. Connor was telling him when games were. I have a lot of respect for the pickup basketball, but I am certainly – look at that, the mid-range, that fade. Always wearing the tights?
Starting point is 01:04:41 Always got tights on? Always got to have the tights on, yeah. Two on, two on. Do you have an arm sleeve or no? No. All right. You ever play with Tristan Jass? Is that his name?
Starting point is 01:04:50 Oh, the layup guy. Yeah, the layup kid. He goes and schools up. He's a good little player. He's awesome. And I think because he doesn't dunk, he doesn't get as much respect. He crosses. He was on Segura's arm, committed suicide, as you said.
Starting point is 01:05:02 Yes. Treason, that arm. Treason. Tom Segura's arm committed treason. Yeah, just kind of quit on everything, turned against his whole body. But, yeah, I enjoy watching Tristan's stuff. I also like Lethal Shooters. Lethal Shooters, you know who that is?
Starting point is 01:05:19 See him? See him a lot? He's fucking unbelievable. Do you think that there's enough retired NFL guys that play basketball that we could have a couple team league at the Thunderdome? Because then maybe we could stream it. We could put money up on the line.
Starting point is 01:05:33 Like a big three, though. No, no. I think five on five. T.L. would play. It's a lot of players. Fats Shipley. He's a good basketball player. I think the big three format would probably be a little better for the older guys. You think so? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:47 Only half court, then? I mean, half court, it can get a little more because there is more back and forth up and down, so it could get a little worse on your joints. But, you know, you get five on five, that's a lot of guys. We'll have 4K cameras all around the place, and we have a full court, and we have an ability to put, like, bleachers in if we want, I think.
Starting point is 01:06:05 Could do four and four because that would kind of make a difference. That would be worse. Yeah, that's more defense. There's a lot more space. I thought we were doing an all-star game. What are we playing? I'm playing zone anyway. I mean.
Starting point is 01:06:16 I thought we were trying to do less running. Four and four is more running. Yeah. I think you just got to move the ball forward. Nah, more space. Yeah, exactly. More open shots. No, I was thinking just got to move the ball forward. Nah, more space. Yeah, exactly. More open shots. No, I was thinking you were thinking like seven on seven.
Starting point is 01:06:28 Who wants to get below the net and box out? I thought we were just doing, hey, shot up. If it's not in, it's a rebound. I want to let everybody know, I'll be commentating said league. So whatever rules everybody comes up with, I'm not even going to have to worry about or care about. But I think we should try to figure out some sort of stream game. Hey, also, Pat, can you set a net up?
Starting point is 01:06:44 Can we play volleyball in there? Is it big enough? How sweet would that be? I did some research and I found a good net There we go I think with the We're all Mustangs here We've bought like
Starting point is 01:06:57 I think like 20 of those nets So thank you for doing the research I do think we have a plug actually Here we go Yeah they're going to have to so thank you for doing the research. I do think we have a plug, actually, in the Nets. Here we go. I was there before with Pahols on the ground. Yeah, they're going to have to. Oh, yeah, you do have to. I'm talking about pickleball, too.
Starting point is 01:07:10 I don't know if we still want to do that. We're not sliding from pickup basketball to pickleball just yet. It's like putting lines on the basketball court. You can do it all. You can have it all out there. They're building new courts right by my house. I could walk over there tomorrow and see if they'll come build something outside. How about a bocce court?
Starting point is 01:07:23 There's a bocce court. Oh, hell yeah. We'll have a bocce court? There's a bocce court. Hell yeah. We'll have a bocce court outside for sure. Because the only Italians that live in Indiana will be there every fucking day. A bocce indoor. So no pickleball? Pickleball maybe. It's a lot of hitting the ball.
Starting point is 01:07:36 Do you hit the ball off the roof and that or no? No, it's an outside. I believe it's mostly an outside unless you're at a racket club. It's full-size ping pong. We got a big field. We got a big field. Big field. All right, let's move along. Nick will take club. It's full-size ping pong. We've got a big field. We've got a big field. Big field. All right, let's move along.
Starting point is 01:07:46 Nick will take care of it. 16 minutes of no conversation. That is because a man is about to join us who we have missed, AJ. We have missed mightily. Because although the sport in which he covers, we do not necessarily have the most amount of experience, information, or love for. It is certainly a conversation that is worthy of being listened to every time we have it.
Starting point is 01:08:13 Hell yeah. This man is the young insider. The young face. The man that will carry America's pastime into the next 20 years of television coverage. He used to get a little loose-lipped on a bunch of shows. Yeah, he is. So we couldn't talk to him for a while. It is an absolute honor and a joy to say
Starting point is 01:08:33 welcome back to the program from ESPN, man who covers the MLB, Jet Passing. Yeah! Jet! Jet! What's up? It is so good to be back hey connor are you there right now i knew something was fucking coming because gumpy's not here so i yeah i'm here
Starting point is 01:08:53 listen here's the thing how did you no sell the lou holtz impersonation like you were Hulk Hogan standing in a 1980s WWF ring. What was that? That was the funniest shit I've seen in a long, long time, and you're just sitting there like, oh, I gotta mow it. No! Like an asshole. This guy is a method actor. Yeah, everyone sees
Starting point is 01:09:19 an impression. I just see Lou Holtz, so I don't understand what he's funny about. He was just trying to make sure everybody knew that that was actually Lou Holtz I was speaking at the time. He's a doctor. A lot of comments about how you just held it together. While Nick was dying, Zito was dying. I was gasping into the microphone at one point. Almost ruined it.
Starting point is 01:09:38 AJ, who's... You were choking. Dude, it was awesome. It was great. Jet, I mean, AJ was even laughing. Look, he's kind of giggling right now. I watched it last night. I was laughing by myself in the kitchen, actually.
Starting point is 01:09:48 Yeah, I've watched it a few times as well. Just a sad oose on the beach. AJ, this is a serious question for you, AJ. How does it feel knowing that everyone who wears your jersey at a professional football game right now looks like a complete scumbag. It was unbelievable. It was incredible. I was at the Chiefs-Packers game
Starting point is 01:10:12 last Thursday, and every Hawk jersey that went by was just the worst person there. It was a parade of terrible people. Those are my people, Jet. Those are my people. I appreciate that. I don't like you slandering them. Yeah, exactly, Jet.
Starting point is 01:10:26 Watch the way you talk about the people that watch this show, dude. All right, Jet? It's great to have you back. And Ty, you do deserve all. Hey, what a fucking performance. Thank you, guys. Thank you. What was the line that you sent me a text about one of the lines?
Starting point is 01:10:42 I think it was, what was the word? Macintosh. Yeah, the word? Macintosh. Yeah. I'm not typing it on Macintosh or Dell. When did you think of that? All that was just happening on the fly there? Yeah. Macintosh.
Starting point is 01:10:54 I just figured Lou Holtz probably wouldn't call a computer, you know, an Apple. You know, he'd probably call it a Macintosh. Have you heard, have you seen that Lou Holtz has responded? Why'd say say? All right, Jets, do the Elmo, Jets. Don't do the Elmo. Elmo will not be able to do the Elmo. But Lou Holtz, his foundation responded and said,
Starting point is 01:11:16 imitation is the greatest form of flattery. And then they went on to say, save the expletives or whatever, spot on or something like that. So we did get a chance to kind of feel what Lou Holtz would say about Brian Kelly if he was asked publicly about Brian Kelly. Brian Kelly also followed me on Twitter after this, Jet. So I think
Starting point is 01:11:33 there's an inevitable conversation that's going to have to take place at some point. And that's the life that we're in. Jet, we have missed you. The MLB is doing its thing. Last night, Citi Field, just one park away from Serena beating the shit out of the number two player in the world. Edwin Diaz comes out to do what Edwin Diaz has done all season
Starting point is 01:11:54 with Narco playing. Timmy Trumpet comes out of the dugout. That 40-year-old Australian DJ who gets the people going rode his trumpet like a horse at one point, played that thing out there. Then he was staring down Turner, Freeman, and I don't know who bats fourth to the Dodgers right now, but the heart of their order. The heart of the order on the best team in baseball with that big of a moment.
Starting point is 01:12:18 And Edwin Diaz fucking delivers his baseball at an all-time high right now because of that jet. It has to be. Closer entrances are, to me, the best thing in sport. There's nothing like it, right? And Edwin Diaz coming in with Timmy Trumpa playing. I don't know if you've seen. There's a guy named Felix Bautista who closes for the Orioles.
Starting point is 01:12:38 And I don't know how many Wire fans we have here. But, you know, the best part of the wire is when you know Omar is coming and you hear the whistling. And every time Felix Bautista, who's like 6'8", 275 pounds, throws 102 miles an hour, has a split-finger fastball that he calls arma letal,
Starting point is 01:12:59 which means lethal weapon in Spanish. Every time he comes in, they play the whistle, and then the lights at Camden Yards just go bonkers. I'm not going to say it's as good an entrance as Edwin Diaz's, but listen, baseball has a history
Starting point is 01:13:14 with this. Mariano Rivera coming in to enter Sandman and Trevor Hartman coming in to Hell's Bells. It's a really cool thing that baseball does. Jet, so is every team, is this like the NFL to where if you don't have a franchise quarterback, you're on the search for one and you're going to pay him $500 million?
Starting point is 01:13:29 Is that what it is with closers now? If you own a team, this is a great marketing ploy, obviously. Are you all looking for a closer that you can kind of have your own version of this? I mean, all 30 teams should have a closer that comes into some sort of great entrance music. And Edwin Diaz is an interesting case because this was a guy who got traded to the Mets for Jared Kellnick a couple years ago.
Starting point is 01:13:50 Looked like a complete disaster of a deal. But this is his free agent year right now, and he's been the best reliever in baseball. And he's going to go out and he made this offseason become the first $100 million closer. And I think part of it, when you factor in, if you're a baseball team, the idea that you can market your closer, that you can market the ninth inning as something that everybody wants to watch. I want someone to
Starting point is 01:14:14 come up with an app that says the closer's coming in right now. I want to go watch him shove for one inning. The MLB will send so many cease and desist to people that play it. It won't be able to spread as much as it should, but I get what you're saying. Can I just say something? There's something really cool that baseball did yesterday, actually.
Starting point is 01:14:33 Okay. They are right now giving away free MLB.tv subscriptions to every single college student out there. For the next six months, you can watch all the baseball during the rest of the regular season. You can watch winter ball. You can see spring training baseball. Listen, one of my goals in life is to get people interested in baseball. It's still a great sport. And if you're 18 to 22 years old, if you're in college right now,
Starting point is 01:15:02 don't you dare throw a pitch, Pat McAfee. If you're there, you can see it for free at this point. So I believe you just go to MLB.TV and you got to sign up through there, but it's pretty cool. Probably a college email needed to get in there. Congrats to the MLB being forward-thinking, opening
Starting point is 01:15:20 up their product to people. For me, with what you just said, I think you've done a great job as being a mouthpiece for a league that had potentially been dying for a little bit in my demo i'm just football meathead guy i never got into baseball because i'm from pittsburgh and the pirates fucking suck sell the team please god now this edwin diaz situation has intrigued me because them the first time i saw this Narcos thing was like three weeks ago. Three weeks ago.
Starting point is 01:15:48 They were showing it. They had that thing choreographed, Jet. They had that thing choreographed. His walk, the original, and then as soon as he hit the outfield, the fucking beat dropped and it went. They had a camera following him as he's jogging. There's drunk whites all around Citi Field
Starting point is 01:16:04 doing the whole thing. The Mets mascots have fucking trumpets they're playing. Then he goes out and he fucking delivers. 99 on the paint, 99 on the paint. I'm like, I have so much respect for the moxie it takes for all of that production to go out and do your fucking job whenever it's being decided by like eighths of inches. If his finger hangs on the ball just a half an eighth a second too long that's a ball or it's a fucking home run it's a loss last night timmy trumpet out there the entire city going crazy the entire internet waiting for this moment to happen going against the best batters he fucking goes one two three
Starting point is 01:16:42 against it's like that is a motherfucker you have to respect and appreciate that's a moment that i think every sports fan loves and it's like how many more opportunities does baseball have to have that type of thing because it felt like last night was world series game fucking seven and that's what baseball probably needs more of jet probably a lot more of that yeah i mean listen the the beauty of the baseball season, Pat, is that you have 162 games to go out and do that. Every night you've got 15 opportunities for a closer to go out there and shut things down in the ninth inning. And listen, you know, the first inning, the second inning, the third,
Starting point is 01:17:18 fourth, third, sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth, they're all the same. All you're trying to do is get three outs. But those final three outs have always proven so mentally difficult for some guys. You can have the best reliever in the world, and the guy just crumbles in the ninth inning. So to have the balls that Edwin Diaz does to go out there, stare down these great hitters, and throw fastballs and sliders and just make them look silly, I mean, it's as talented as you get. Because he goes out there last night, and they bomb on him, Jet. Career over.
Starting point is 01:17:48 Oh, disaster. But instead of the mindset of like being nervous of that while he's jogging out there, like, God damn, this is a lot. I mean, there is Timmy Trumpets here. They got mascots dressed up. Everybody in the stands had their phone out. Everybody's talking about it. It's a big thing.
Starting point is 01:18:03 Instead of the mindset of like, oh oh i better not fuck this up it felt like he was walking out to the pitchers like welcome to my fucking world almost and that's an advantage almost for the pitcher instead of for the batter like those guys are great batters they had the entire fucking city against them i assume that ball was coming in a little faster i assume it was a little bit smaller on the vision. And he kind of flipped the pressure, which I love. Is there any stop in this guy? Because I heard what? They were calling him Ed Luz for a while. Weren't they calling him Ed Luz there for a bit?
Starting point is 01:18:33 Now he's all the way back with the music. Is he, are they going to win? Are the Mets going to fucking win this whole thing? Are we getting Edwin Diaz in game six or game seven of the World Series with Timmy Trump playing that thing out there? Let's put it this way, Pat. The New York Mets at the top of their rotation have Jacob deGrom, who right now,
Starting point is 01:18:53 the way he's throwing is the best pitcher I've ever seen. I've been doing this for 20 years. Jacob deGrom, when he misses a pitch, when he goes six inches off the plate with a fastball that's going at 100, you're like, how did he miss? He's not supposed to. He's throwing 94, 95-mile-an-hour sliders. I mean, it's silly what he's doing.
Starting point is 01:19:15 Then you've got Max Scherzer behind him, ahead of him. Who knows what Buck Showalter, the manager, is going to do with the postseason rotation. But to have those two at the top and to have a lineup that the Mets do, this is an organization that hasn't won a World Series since 1986. That's been to only one since then. I'm sorry, been to two since then, lost both of them. But, yeah, the Mets have a real chance this year. The problem is the Dodgers are a juggernaut.
Starting point is 01:19:41 This is a team that's on pace right now to win, I believe, 113 games out of 162 that they're playing. It is all-stars stacked in their lineup. It is deep in starting pitching. And let me tell you, if we get a National League Championship Series between the Dodgers and the Mets, or the Braves,
Starting point is 01:20:00 who are also a fantastic team, there are a lot of great teams in baseball right now, and October's going to be a lot of fun. Love you, Dansby. Love Dansby Swanson. Sorry. Jett, what's your favorite place to – Get to Jett.
Starting point is 01:20:10 He's great. If he had trumpets. Sorry. Jett, what's the best place to watch a game in person, Major League Baseball? What's the best venue that you've been to? I got a top two, San Francisco and Pittsburgh. I honestly think PNC Park and Pittsburgh. Because they're older or what?
Starting point is 01:20:28 Regardless of the product on the field, that ballpark is gorgeous. The view there, the sight lines, everything about PNC is great. Neither of those teams is very good right now. Dodger Stadium, the backdrop in the hills of Los Angeles is wonderful. Fenway Park, Wrigley Field. I mean, one of the great things about baseball is the stadiums. And you get to see history. Connor was yelling at you this entire time.
Starting point is 01:20:57 And then you say Fenway. Hell yeah, right on. He said my team. He said my place. Holy, best mascot out there. Honestly, I think when Connor starts yelling, I just turn it off. I don't listen. I don't listen. You sound like my place. Holy, best mascot out there. Honestly, I think when Connor starts yelling, I just turn it off. I don't listen. I don't care.
Starting point is 01:21:08 You sound like my mother. Jesus. Last question for me before Ty has an actual conversation with you about baseball. This is disgusting. Calm down, man. Everybody needs to relax. You just talked about the Pirates there. And I started the, whenever you and I were chatting, I think, was that a year or two years ago?
Starting point is 01:21:30 When was I really into baseball? Talking about baseball. Last year. When were you joining us a lot? Was it last year or two years ago? Thank you, AJ. You're right. Every day.
Starting point is 01:21:37 Two years ago was a lockout. When were you really joining us, though? I think it was during COVID. So I think two years ago. So two years ago, I was really, I think I was sort of getting into baseball. I think. I'm not 100% sure. I think I was during COVID. So I think two years ago. So two years ago, I was really, I think I was sort of getting into baseball. I think. I'm not 100% sure. I think I sort of was.
Starting point is 01:21:48 And then I started, you know, a little reflection on why I was never into baseball. And all roads led back to the Pirates fucking stink. I enjoyed PNC Park, enjoyed going to the games, but it was never like, oh, we're going to watch baseball. We were going to the park. We weren't going to the team. So then as we continued to watch the moves that this fucking team would make
Starting point is 01:22:07 and all the players that would go on to win World Series elsewhere and go all-star everywhere else and have these great careers, it's like they all could have been pirates. What happened? I started to sell the fucking team. Hey, this guy needs to sell the team. We need an actual owner here who will spend some money, who will utilize everything that Pittsburgh has behind it
Starting point is 01:22:23 and make a winner on the fucking diamond. And then obviously all the diehard Pirates fans called me a con, called me a fraud, told me that I don't know what I'm talking about. You got to trust the process. Believe in the future. We got good prospects back. Now even those people I think are on my side. Everybody in Pittsburgh fucking hates this ownership.
Starting point is 01:22:42 I don't even have anybody going against us whenever we say this guy fucking stinks. Is there any chance that this guy, he might be a good person. Okay, we saw him in that photo. He might be a good person, but as an owner, he fucking sucks. Is he ever going to move on and how would that process work, Jed?
Starting point is 01:22:58 There's no sign right now that Bob Nutting is going to be selling the favorites. But we have two teams right now that are up for sale, and it's interesting. The Washington Nationals and the Los Angeles Angels. And the numbers that are being thrown around, I don't know what your guys' reaction was when the Broncos got
Starting point is 01:23:15 $4.5 billion, but it was an absurd number from someone who isn't in football every day. I mean, the Nationals are probably going to sell for $2.5 billion. The Angels are probably going to sell for $3 billion. Listen, for what Bob Nutting bought the Pirates, and the return on investment he can have,
Starting point is 01:23:36 the only thing we ask for as sports fans are people who care, right? That's all you want. The best franchises tend to have the best owners. The most successful franchises have owners who are invested not just in the team, but in the fan base as well. And when you have a fan base like Pittsburgh that's just disaffected at this point.
Starting point is 01:23:59 Have you seen O'Neal Cruz at Allpat? Oh, yeah, dog. Yeah, O'Neal Cruz hit a baseball 122 and a half miles an hour a couple days ago he's hitting balls harder than anyone in the history literally in the history of the game he is like the yannis atentacumpo of baseball he is six foot seven and playing shortstop and doing it well. And so there is hope there. It just depends on the owner actually investing in the team, and he hasn't shown any willingness to do so at this point.
Starting point is 01:24:33 Well, so hopefully the Yenzers will do what they do best, and that's publicly shame that guy. Question from Ty here. Jet, go ahead, Ty. Jet, do you think it's time to start panicking if you're a Yankees fan? They just had like the worst month they've had in like 20 years maybe, it seems like uh Judge is probably gonna break the AL home run record he gets one pitch to hit a night and he usually fucking goes yard no one else hits um like are they gonna are they gonna choke and kind of flame out in the playoffs here you think what's the the what's your opinion there and also is there any way that they don't keep Judge in this offseason?
Starting point is 01:25:07 Obviously, you see what the Mets are doing, and I think that kind of worries a lot of Yankees fans, that Steve Cohen's going to throw a shitload of money at him or that the Dodgers will do the same thing. Is your inclination that the Yankees actually might not re-sign him? The Yankees should be worried because Aaron Judge has been the best hitter in baseball this year, and he's doing it in New York. Like, let's not discount that. I understand.
Starting point is 01:25:30 You know, all of us on this show, we're Midwesterners. We're not coastal people except Connor, and I don't have him. We see sports for what it is, which is not something that exists only in the East and West time zone. And so to say that and then to look at Aaron Judge and understand when you're in New York, there is more pressure. When you're in your walk here, there is more pressure. And him going out and hitting 51 tanks before the month of September, he's had an incredible year.
Starting point is 01:26:01 And because of that, if you're the San Francisco Giants, you have to go after Aaron Judge. If you're the Chicago Cubs, hell, if you're the New York Mets, even... Oh, yeah! Bring him over to the trumpet team! The Red Sox. Could you imagine if he was on my team next year? Aaron Judge was on the fucking Mets. I'd kill myself. I'd shoot myself in the head, so I wouldn't even
Starting point is 01:26:20 be able to see it. Well, it's a shame, because you're going to miss multiple Mets World Series. Maybe. I won't be around to see them. No, you should want to see it. Well, it's a shame because you're going to miss multiple Mets World Series. Maybe. I won't be around to see them. No, you should want to see it. The fucking trumpet thing in the World Series is going to be awesome. Not a chance. You're a man that loves good entertainment. Think about how amazing that'll be.
Starting point is 01:26:32 Absolutely. If Aaron Judge stabs me in the back and goes and plays for the Mets, I will drown myself in the back. Stab you in the back? The Yankees haven't paid him. What are we even talking about? Stab you in the back. I do think that when it's all said and done, Aaron Judge will end up a New York Yankee.
Starting point is 01:26:48 Hell yeah. I know. We've seen situations in the past. The Subway Series rival. They've had great players. You know, Robinson Cano ended up going to Seattle. But Aaron Judge is the closest thing that the New York Yankees have had to Derek Jeter. He's a captain.
Starting point is 01:27:04 He's a guy who's a captain. He's a leader in the clubhouse. He's extremely well regarded by his teammates, by the coaching staff, by management. Everybody loves Aaron Judge. The idea that he's going to be wearing another uniform, it just seems hard
Starting point is 01:27:20 to fathom. But look, money talks. The Yankees offered him $213 million entering this season, and he's going to go out this offseason and get $300 million plus. So that's at least a $287 million bet he put on himself? Is that what you're saying? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:35 He made himself $100 million plus, I think, this year. Dog. That's why it's such a good sport. That's why it's such a good league. And if he was to come over to the Mets, we got DeGrom pitching. Yeah. Well, DeGrom's going to be a free agent as well. Well, DeGrom's a free agent.
Starting point is 01:27:50 No, we're paying him. He's sticking around. Yeah, Cohen ain't losing DeGrom. No way. And we'll have the most electrifying ace in DeGrom. Sure. Obviously. We'll have the most electrifying closer in Edwin Win-Win, no matter what, Diaz.
Starting point is 01:28:05 What? And then we got Aaron Judge just fucking doing his thing. I mean, it's a great time to be a Mets fan. They all got money on their mind. Piazza might come back. Listen, Steve Cohen's the richest owner in baseball right now. Let's go, Steve. He's the richest owner in professional sports behind Steve Ballmer.
Starting point is 01:28:20 So the Mets absolutely could go out and re-sign DeGrom, sign Diaz, and bring Judge in. I just don't think that that's realistic. Thank you. And also Judge does not want to play with that dork Pete Alonso. Absolutely not. Polar bear? Polar bear? Wow. Not a chance. Don't tell me you're talking about my
Starting point is 01:28:39 back-to-back home run derby champion. Okay? Diggs has a question for you, Jeff. We apologize for the lack of professionalism from the only person that knows anything about baseball on this show, Ty Schmidt. Ty, sorry about it. The Mets are the future of New York. The Big Apple runs through the Mets.
Starting point is 01:28:55 Sorry about it. They're not in New York City, so it doesn't count. Well, was the U.S. opening? What did you say? The Bronx is, come on, Jet. You know, okay. Queens? You don't say? The Bronx is, come on, Jet. Queens? You don't like Queens? Queens is not? No, they're in Flushing.
Starting point is 01:29:09 The stadium's in Flushing. That doesn't count. All right. That doesn't count. All right. Go ahead, Tom Diggs. All right, Jet. When looking at the season end awards, there's really only one that's up in the air,
Starting point is 01:29:20 and it's because Verlander just potentially got a boo-boo. Is Verlander still going to win the AL Cy Young, or do you think maybe we should take some flyers on like Dylan Cease or McClanahan? McClanahan just got hurt. Maybe Ohtani. What are we thinking? Dylan Cease was my preseason pick to win American League Cy Young,
Starting point is 01:29:39 and he has come out and shoved the entire year so far. He's been fantastic. I think it all runs through Verlander. If Justin Verlander comes back from his calf injury and makes a few more starts down the stretch, I think he's a lock at this point. But if you want to throw a little coin on Seats, I don't think that would be a bad thing to do.
Starting point is 01:29:57 Go make some. Hey, when's baseball matter? Right now? These games? Yeah, I think if you look, know there are some races the american league central wide open at this point minnesota cleveland chicago all of them could go out and win the the national league with the braves and the maps fantastic um in the wild card races really in both leagues uh are getting good and remember there's an extra wild card spot this
Starting point is 01:30:23 year and the wild card format has changed, too. In the past, it was just a one-game thing. This year, there are going to be four wild card series, three games each, all of the games in the same place. So, if you are the higher-seeded team, you get to host every wild card game and you've got to win two of them to advance to the division series. Go ahead, AJ. Jet, is Mike Trout and Shohei ever going to get the pub that they deserve?
Starting point is 01:30:45 Dude, why are their teams stink? How can they be the best players? Every time I talk baseball with a baseball person and I say, I don't know who Mike Trout is, you don't fucking know baseball. Well, why is he on a shitty team? He's on with Shohei Ohtani, who's the nearest thing to Babe Ruth. Why is he on a shitty team? Better.
Starting point is 01:31:01 Why? No, better is right, actually. You know, there was a number last night. Is he on a shitty team? Better. Why? No, he's better is right, actually. You know, there was a number last night. It came out. The most strikeouts for a 30-home run hitter in a season. Shohei Otani hit his 30th home run last night. He struck out 170 guys this year.
Starting point is 01:31:25 Before that, the answer was Babe Ruth with three strikeouts. Is that good? Is that good? What Otani's doing right now, let me ask you guys this, because you guys play ball, and you have your own definition for MVP. Is the MVP the best player, or is it the best player
Starting point is 01:31:41 on a good team? Because if it's just the best player, Shohei Otani goes out every year and he puts up Pete Alonzo numbers as a hitter and puts up, like, Max Scherzer numbers as a pitcher. So he is two elite players in one. On the other hand, Aaron Judge, carrying the Yankees, 50-plus home runs right now, could wind up with 60-plus. That is going to be a debate uh that is
Starting point is 01:32:05 hotly contested i think over the last month of the season see for us the mvp is just the best quarterback in the league that's what the nfl is that's what that's what that's that's so it's hard for us to even get in that conversation because are you valuable to your team or to the league you know most valuable players that to your team or to the entire league as a whole i don't know you know that's a tough thing that's why all these awards are no offense shit but it is it is a little bit difficult you know because situations are situational like will shohei be there forever and not matter and will their team no no let's show hey otani is a free agent after the 2023 season with the angels being sold now, there is a possibility that he gets traded this winter.
Starting point is 01:32:49 And if Shohei Ohtani were to move to the Dodgers, to the Mets, to the Yankees, I mean, that is a realistic thing. Even if he doesn't end up on a different team this winter, if the Angels stink going forward in 2023, he's not going to stick around. Why would he? So don't you think a big part of the sale, though, is that you have Shohei Otani on the team? Not if he's going to leave. Like, you've got to surround him with guys.
Starting point is 01:33:17 And the Angels have tried to do that. The interesting part of baseball to me is you can have the two best players in the world, and you can make the argument that Mike Trout and Shohei Otani are the two best players in the world and you can still stink because the other 24 guys who surround them just aren't good enough. That's baseball. Hey, Jet, we can't thank you enough for joining us, man. You're awesome. We've missed you. You look fantastic.
Starting point is 01:33:41 Thank you, boys. I appreciate this. Honestly, coming on with you guys is truly my favorite thing. It's the best and what you guys have going here. It's a special thing. And I hope you realize that every day. Well, we're very lucky for it. We're very thankful for people like you coming on the show. Didn't know before we get out of you just want to say some shit that you're gonna have to regret
Starting point is 01:34:00 and probably never be able to come on the show. It's worth it. All right. All right. So you already did, I guess. Ladies and gentlemen, Jet Pass. Thank you. Yeah!
Starting point is 01:34:12 This man's about to do so for the entirety of the college football season. Hell yeah. He calls the game of the night between Penn State and Purdue here in West Lafayette, Indiana. Should be a hell of an atmosphere. Should be a hell of an environment. He's got Alabama, Texas as well. And he sits alongside Gus Johnson, one of the most electrifying humans to ever grace this earth he does a fantastic job can't wait to hear and watch him do his thing this fall from fox sports
Starting point is 01:34:35 ladies and gentlemen joel clark what's up man what's going on i'm just glad we've got a better connection than before the draft yeah Yeah. That debacle. Yeah, you were in Vegas, I think, outside, right, in a patio area? That's right. Well, yeah, DJ came on, Daniel Jeremiah, and he was like, oh, Clatt's trying to be fancy at the Caesars pool. I don't know. Our wires got crossed.
Starting point is 01:34:57 I sent him a handwritten note. He didn't respond yet, but you get the idea. Oh, Lou Holtz, you're saying. It's a Lou Holtz, Brian Kelly situation. Do you feel the same way about DJ as Lou Holtz you're saying. It's a Lou Holtz, Brian Kelly situation. Do you feel the same way about DJ as Lou Holtz clearly feels about Brian Kelly? No, definitely not. DJ is a class act.
Starting point is 01:35:14 Lou apparently really doesn't like Brian though. Wow. Is that right? I mean, I heard some things the other day, Joel, from Lou. I know. And it got pretty heavy. Everything Lou said there, though, pretty true. I mean, we don't need to rehash it, but yeah, Brian Kelly is a sack of marbles.
Starting point is 01:35:32 He's a piece of shit, Joel. You know it just as well as I do. Okay, Joel, so. I thought the only thing I was surprised was there was like a soft shot at Brady, right? Right? Yeah, well, that's Ty. I mean, that's just, that was a little Ty there.
Starting point is 01:35:46 I don't know if Lou Holtz is going to take those shots, but Ty mixed with Lou Holtz, certainly going to get one in. That video, because Ty is literally an impressionist, can do like 15, 16 different people. He's been doing Lou Holtz
Starting point is 01:35:58 for a couple of years. Feels like that particular video went though around the college football world. It appears as if it does how did you see it who sent it to you and was everybody on the same page of oh that is fucking awesome joel oh well first of all yes so the last part a hundred percent um see it right away only because for a thursday night like everything gets the week is crazy so
Starting point is 01:36:23 i'm flying out t. I actually like went with my family. We connected in Denver. They stayed there to see our family, so on and so forth. So I hadn't seen it yet. And then yesterday we're in the car driving to our production meeting. We're going to go meet with Penn State. So I'm trying to pour over like, hey, what do I want to ask James Franklin about their team and, you know, their young players? And I'm, you know, I'm kind of one track mind. And then'm kind of one-track mind. And then all of a sudden, our producer and director are just cackling like schoolgirls. And I'm like, what's happening up in the front seat?
Starting point is 01:36:52 And sure enough, they put it on. And by the end of the trip, I'm literally crying, getting out of the SUV as James Franklin walks up. And he's like, what's wrong with you? And I was like, you've got to see this. Well, we appreciate that time. Fucking right. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:37:10 Reserve it, Ty. Also, thank you for your service. Dr. Coach, Philosophizer, Lou Holtz for that whole thing to happen. And Brian Kelly. Right. Big thanks to Brian Kelly doing that. Let's talk about the game coming up, Joel.
Starting point is 01:37:21 You just talked a little bit about your process and production meetings and everything. You're about to straddle in. and we talked to Herbstreet about this. Hey, we've got a long season ahead. How are you feeling going in? I know that tonight's a massive game. It should be an electric atmosphere. You've got Alabama, Texas. There's going to be a lot of big noon kickoff push and everything around Fox.
Starting point is 01:37:40 How do you feel going into the season? Got good energy, Joel? Great energy. I can't wait for the season. It's always a little bit like Christmas for me. This is my favorite time of year. I love this sport like deep in my bones. I love college football. I love being out there. In fact, yeah, this morning I'm walking to do a hit for, what was it? I don't know, Fox and Friends or somebody. They asked me to do a hit and I'm walking outside of the stadium and sure enough, there's this kid in a sleeping bag outside of the gate.
Starting point is 01:38:07 And I'm like, hey, hey, brother. They're like, there's no line. You know, like you don't need to camp out. And he's like, no, college football's the best. Like, I'm so excited. His name's Isaac. He's like, I'm going to be the one in the front row in a black sombrero. Make sure to put me on TV.
Starting point is 01:38:23 And I was like, done. Absolutely done. front row in a black sombrero make sure to put me on tv and i was like done absolutely done i get fired up i get i get fired up for this time of year and yes it's busy but there's something about like the aspirational nature of college football the fact that it's not the destination and you and you're seeing the dreams like come to fruition right before your eyes. You're seeing these kids go to young men and then men. I mean, I just, I love everything about it, man. What was James Franklin like? I know Penn State's kind of flying under the radar right now. Are people, I guess, their expectations aren't as high as they were once before.
Starting point is 01:38:56 What do you think their season might look like? So for me, I think that Penn State is on the first month of the season. They could either go back up to what they have been over the last few years, or at least previous to the last two years, where I felt like they were contenders in the Big Ten. They were contenders in the Big Ten East. Last two years, they're basically a 500 program. So this first month of the season is going to tell us everything that we need to know.
Starting point is 01:39:24 They recruited at a really high level. They got some really good players. Number one running back in the country. You'll see him tonight. Nick Singleton. They think he's going to be great. They got a six-year quarterback, Sean Clifford. He's trying to start the union. He's doing all sorts of stuff, right? I mean, this guy has been there forever. I think that it could go one of two ways. I really do. The bottom line for me is if they can run the ball, then they'll be better. They're talented.
Starting point is 01:39:51 They've got some great pieces on that team. Joey Porter, I think he might be a first-round corner, so we'll see. Whenever you talk about them getting a lot of recruits and everything, what does that mean, Joel? They just paid them? Is that what's going on? These NIL deals, Joel, it's ruining college football, Joel.'s what i heard i mean is it though is it like no i don't think so but i don't feel like a lot of people say it's ruining it joel and i'm happy to hear you
Starting point is 01:40:14 you're one of the voices of college football so you saying and herbie as well herbie's like at first i think it was i don't want any change or anything but then as he's watching it go he's like should be some guardrails but ultimately this is fucking good for the sport do you agree with that do you believe in that 100 the fact that we got this far into it and college football didn't adjust when the olympics adjusted is crazy like this is i'm i'm all for this now are there some guardrails that we need yeah absolutely and and i think that comes into place where we just need every school to be competing on the same level as far as the rules go. Because right now there's different rules in different states based on different legislation. And I don't think that that's good for the game.
Starting point is 01:40:58 So if we get some good guardrails that everybody agrees on and then move forward from that standpoint, I think it's good. There's one of two ways through this. And this is what people don't want to hear. I think that there's only one of two ways. You either get federal legislation that kind of is overarching over the sport. And that way, everybody gets the same rules. Or you collectively bargain with the players. And I think that's the more probable path that we're headed to is that there's going to be an association of college football players, it will very much turn into kind of a minor pro situation where the schools will share in the revenue, which they're not sharing right now, even within IL. And what that will allow them to do is start to get some rules that the players then agree to that everyone can move forward, I think,
Starting point is 01:41:42 in a more competitively balanced fashion. Structuring that is going to be a tall task for whoever decides to dive into that because players, you know, obviously the COVID year gave opportunities for Kenny Pickett to be there for a long time and for Clifford to play for six years and everything. But normally those players, especially important guys, guys that are worth a lot of money, only in prominence are two years, three years, then they're gone. Then who gives a fuck anymore if you go to the nfl so i think setting up the structure of a players union
Starting point is 01:42:09 for college football players is going to be very difficult i think it's been talked about for a long time hopefully this generation is entrepreneurial enough to understand that it's worth it and to buy in but that's going to be a talk because the amount of people that just say oh fuck it i'll play you know what i mean like that that is always i'll be intrigued to see how it goes but i do like the fact that we're in a portion where you can make some money i think they put some windows on when you could transfer to now i think i'm not yeah they did i think just yesterday was that yesterday joel it was yesterday and that's been much needed because listen we were all young people and like you get pissed off you
Starting point is 01:42:43 get emotional and you make really poor decisions. So why in the hell was the transfer portal open on random Sunday in October after a guy didn't get as much playing time as he felt like he should have gotten? That's real. He's like, screw it. I'm out. It's like, hey, like, right. Maybe we should rethink this portal a little bit.
Starting point is 01:43:03 So they put some windows where you can transfer when you can't transfer. I think that that's really good. I think that will also slow down the coaching carousel. One of the reasons you had so many coaches get fired so early last year was to get ahead of things like transfer in the early signing day window. I think that could probably get a little bit of a tweak moving forward. I think that could probably get a little bit of a tweak moving forward. But then ultimately, you know the group that needs to step up and actually affect change rather than just crying all the time? The refs?
Starting point is 01:43:32 The coaches. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. I agree. The coaches. They're all, you know, they're like, oh my gosh, my job is so tough. I get $7 million a year, and now I don't know what I'm doing. It's like, come on. The coaches should be the ones that form the association.
Starting point is 01:43:49 They have the most influence over the players. They've got the players' full attention and they're the ones that should be taking the steps to help the players associate and form, whether you want to call it a unit or whatever, some association that then you can collectively bargain with.
Starting point is 01:44:05 That would be better for the bulk of their players, and it's something that I think should be done. Joel, genius. And that's good PR for all those fucking coaches for their recruiting, which is all they really care about, right? That's right. And the players aren't stealing any money from their pie. Their pie is completely separate.
Starting point is 01:44:19 They're a state employee, basically. So the only people that are losing money if the players start getting it is the school and then obviously some of the networks so the coach you would think in the best interest that's a good call joe i've never heard that till today you've been preaching this one a long time and how come i haven't heard it well i don't know listen we're gonna try to remedy that though you know what i'm saying you know what i'm talking about the coaches the coaches already have you know like they have like the American Football Coaches Association. Who knows?
Starting point is 01:44:48 God knows what they do. They get together and drink. I don't know. You know, like I don't know what they do. It's like just have the players have like a subset of that organization. And I think that's the way to organize the players in a quick manner. Then those coaches start banding together to fuck over players. Joel, look what you started already.
Starting point is 01:45:03 I know. I know, right? Tone, your question for Joel. Joel, do you think anyone like the Utah, the USC, A&M, Clemson, anyone besides the big three have any chance this year of winning a national championship? West Virginia. Man, I mean, I was just going to bring up. I was like, you forgot to bring up West Virginia.
Starting point is 01:45:23 By the way, Keaton Slovis. How about that? Oh, Slovis. How about Slovis? Did you see what he did at the pep rally? Yeah, I saw him look for, hey, am I allowed to do this, Narduzzi? Yeah, I saw it. Yeah, don't worry about it.
Starting point is 01:45:36 Heard the kid's a good player. Hope he sucks tonight. Well, the guy's got balls. I mean, the other Joel, he walked up there. Am I allowed to? And then I guess he does deliver it. It then makes its rounds all around West Virginia. Yeah, they love it.
Starting point is 01:45:54 I mean, this is a good energy going into this game tonight. I'm not going to be able to see yours, I don't think, the entirety of it. I wish I could. I'll watch it back because you're awesome. But the backyard brawl tonight should be pretty epic. I think the energy should be very, very magical in Accresher Stadium tonight.
Starting point is 01:46:11 We shall see. I'm looking forward to that game too. I'll have it on the iPad on the side. Always collecting. Oh yeah, I got it. The question posed, the problem with the playoff, as it's currently constituted, it's a massive problem.
Starting point is 01:46:29 The playoff sucks. It's made the sport so top-heavy that all we have is, like, three teams that I could see legitimately win the national championship, maybe four, like maybe four. So maybe Clemson gets into that. So do the other teams have a chance to win the national championship? You're talking about beating Alabama. You're talking about beating potentially Ohio State when the chips are down.
Starting point is 01:46:49 I think that's really tough, beating Georgia when the chips are down. That's going to be really tough for all those teams. A&M is a bit of the squeaky wheel in college football. Always getting the grease. They haven't done much in their history, and yet we're constantly talking about them because they pay so much to all their players, which is great. Good for you.
Starting point is 01:47:08 You've got a great recruiting class. What are you doing this to Jimbo? That's not a shot. Jimbo's going to dunk on you, dude. You know that. I said I'm for NIL. I'm for it. I'm saying good for you.
Starting point is 01:47:21 You are using the rules to your advantage. They've got the best recruiting class in history. Now we need to see it pay off onto the field. Okay, I did not know that was the case. I should have looked into that a little bit more when Saban and he were going to have a cage match at one point during the SEC press conference, and that's all I was really looking at.
Starting point is 01:47:37 I didn't know that the money actually paid off on the back. Hey, look at Texas A&M. Hey, we got big money down here. We got loyal people probably in here. Let's pay fucking everybody. Give them salaries, and let's have a squad. Maybe Texas A&M. Hey, we got big money down here. We got loyal people probably in here. Let's pay fucking everybody. Give them salaries and let's have a squad. Maybe Texas A&M gets back in there. D-Butt, your question for Joe Glad.
Starting point is 01:47:51 Hey, Joe, I got a couple questions for you. First of all, who are you calling the game with tonight? Second of all, you mentioned Porter earlier. Any other big-time DBs we can expect to take the field tonight? Yes, let's go. The second one first is Jair Brown safety from Penn State this dude I love this guy like it's a hard I don't want to root for for guys in particular but you love to see kids succeed so when I'm in the booth man I'm going to be watching Jair Brown kids from
Starting point is 01:48:17 Trenton New Jersey he grew up in in the Donnelly projects which is one of the rougher projects in New Jersey. And his mom flat out just refused to lose her kids to the streets. So that's what she said. She said it in several articles and different interviews. And so what she did is she was like, they were going to play sports and be at home. And that's it. They weren't going to be outside. So she got a second job when they were growing up. So when Jair's a kid, and they call him Tig. So Tig Brown, he's growing up. His mom gets a second job as a bus driver just so that she can keep her eyes on her kids. And then it's just like sports and home, sports and home. Goes to Lackawanna Junior College, follows in Jaquan Brisker's footsteps there. Now he follows in Jaquan brisker's footsteps to penn state led the country interceptions last year with six jire brown is a dude man i can't wait to
Starting point is 01:49:09 watch him play as well and then you know that way to go maul that's right that's right and i'm with gus you know i'm with gus i gotta make sure did you guys get offered nfl games you're muted but i think you said no. How does that even happen? You guys are awesome. Do you want to do NFL, Joel? You should. Sure.
Starting point is 01:49:37 Listen, I want to call football games. I love college football. It's hard because I love college football. I'm really happy for Herbie. This dude has deserved this stage for a long time. I'm a bit behind that. I'm just trying to, every single game, I'm trying to get better and provide entertainment to the fans, take you closer to the game, make it a little bit more interesting and a little bit more exciting. And, you know, it's at some point that would be great, but I
Starting point is 01:50:09 love college, man. I would love to call a national championship game. That's really what I would love to do. Hell yeah. That's the pinnacle there of what you're currently doing. I think the good thing that you and Gus do is you guys understand that you're setting the tone for everybody that's watching the game with you. Like, I think some people forget that, Hey, we're watching the game with you. Not like, you know, you don't have to talk at us. Like we're with you. So when Gus gets Gus, like everybody can't help, but be like, Ooh, it's awesome. And every other sport, they have that, right?
Starting point is 01:50:38 Every other sport, if it's almost a goal in hockey, you hear the vote, like, Oh, like get crazy. At one point it felt like everybody in football thought that they were calling a surgery and it was like had to be journalism had to be matter of fact with everything and the snap is taken and oh good throw there and if you see here so the energy that you guys call a game with i think he's very much appreciated by all of us so you should think about that and if you could relay the message to that fucking gangster, Gus Johnson, we all appreciate him so much.
Starting point is 01:51:08 He calls everything. Do you call Did you play in the NFL? I don't remember. Did you make it to the NFL? I was in a couple of camps with the Saints, then the Lions, but nothing stuck really. So this is what Herbie said. So Herbie never played in the NFL either.
Starting point is 01:51:23 For years, we were saying to Herbie, hey hey we need you in the men's league dude we need you right we need you in the men's league or whatever and off camera and he's probably pissed i'm saying this now publicly but off camera i talked to him and he'd be like man i never i never made it he almost was like he was like projecting shame that he never played in the NFL and people wouldn't respect him if he was NFL games. And I'm like, Kirby, shut the fuck up. Okay.
Starting point is 01:51:49 Everybody in the NFL knows who the hell you are. Everybody in the NFL has respect for you and you call games off. You're the same way though. Like, I hope you don't ever think that because you didn't have this super NFL career that you can't call NFL games. Like you're good. You should be on in NFL games. If it's an option in the future, please don't let that games like you're good you should be on in NFL games if it's an
Starting point is 01:52:05 option in the future please don't let that ever hold you back well that's nice of you to say but by the way that's that's a real thing you know that that Herbie talked about because the executives in our business that's how they talk it's like well you know you didn't do this or that and that's like okay like I I didn't understand that was a prerequisite. But it's fine. You know? But I do think, here's what's great, though. As television has become way more prominent,
Starting point is 01:52:33 and we see every football game across every level be televised on basically a national level, I think what has happened is that the expectation of football fans for their broadcast and from their broadcasters, I think, has elevated. And so if you can do this job really well, I think football fans see it and acknowledge it. It's the only thing that matters, Joel. That's right. It's the only thing that matters. Nothing else matters. And I think that it was different 10 years ago.
Starting point is 01:53:04 And it was different 15 years ago. and it was different 15 years ago, and you had to have the gold jacket or the ring or whatever for credibility, and now people watch enough where you can get credibility just if you're great at the job. And you can lose it, too. You know, like, you could be really good at football, hopping that booth for a couple
Starting point is 01:53:20 weeks, and all of a sudden, nobody even remembers that you were good at football, and it's the complete opposite. I mean, that is taking taking place we don't need to say any names ty your question for joel clatt joel i think the uh the college football playoff committee is meeting either yesterday or today about the uh you know moving to 12 to 16 teams and i think what it needs to be unanimous for it to maybe go into effect as soon as next year. Is there any, I mean, because it's all about the bottom line, is there any way we don't get 16, or do you think they'll maybe settle on 12 because they don't want a
Starting point is 01:53:52 situation where we get, you know, this 16 seed, go play Alabama and get beat by 80? Yeah, so I don't think it'll be 16, but it's not because of the competitive balance that you were suggesting. It's more because they have to have their cake and eat it too. I know that's a terrible expression, but think of it from this perspective. If you're the SEC in the Big Ten, you have to protect the value of the conference championship game.
Starting point is 01:54:17 And if you just go to 16, there's no value in the conference championship game. And you might be thinking to yourself, well, why would there be value in that game for 12 teams? Because then you can still have a buy in the first round. So at least that game would, in theory, let's say Georgia and Alabama are playing the SEC championship game, the winner gets a huge seeding advantage going into that postseason, and the loser would have to play on the road in the first week of the postseason.
Starting point is 01:54:44 So that's why you won't, I don't think you'll see 16. I think you're going to see 12, and it's more because of that. They're trying to maximize the dollar amount in their conference championship and try to squeeze out as many dollars as they can in the postseason. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Joel, we were reminiscing about you and Gus at Wisconsin last year. I think it was the season opener. Are you looking forward to any environments in particular and do you have like a number one that you look back on and think that
Starting point is 01:55:10 was probably the best environment you've been in well last year in general we had a great run we had the Wisconsin game and they did jump around and we stayed live that was I mean goosebumps yeah because it was kind of the first first time that we had college football fans back in the stadium after the pandemic. And so to witness the jump around there after the third quarter was incredible. The Michigan-Ohio State game, guys, that was just kind of like a magical environment. Snow falling, Michigan ending their long drought over Ohio State. Hell yeah. I thought that was, it was an incredible environment.
Starting point is 01:55:46 Those two stand out to me, just because of what we face in the pandemic and then the weight of what Michigan was doing in that game in the snow last year late in Ann Arbor. Did you know that the reason why Ohio State lost wasn't because of the snow or the khakis. Nope. Or Aiden Hutchinson and his paint on his face that is awesome. Sweet. It looks awesome. Hey, Billy Jean.
Starting point is 01:56:14 You know why? Why? For the last 25 years, Bob Carpenter, General Bob Carpenter, also known as Bobbyby carpenter former ohio state buckeye alongside aj dallas cowboy i think he played for the giants as well i know bobby the man who saved big 10 football rallied the troops sent them to illinois to chicago to protest the big 10 offices and say hey we need football. General Bobby Carpenter for the last 25 years has been working out
Starting point is 01:56:50 with the Ohio State Buckeye football team. Because of COVID, he was not able to work out with the team last year. So they got a little soft. They go up to Michigan. They lose. Is there a coincidence? I think not. Joel, you've been covering college football a long time.
Starting point is 01:57:07 You're a great college football quarterback. You have a lot of friends around the college football world. Have you ever in your life heard of an alumni of a team working out with the team for 15 years after he has left the college and doing the same cardio, same sprints, same lifts, same everything. Have you ever heard of that? And do you think that is why Ohio State lost to Michigan last year? I've never heard of that. Me neither.
Starting point is 01:57:34 As insanity. And, by the way, it happens, I guess, with a few of those Ohio State guys. Like Joey Galloway is still posting videos like pushing a sled. I'm like, calm down. Ohio is awesome. Ohio is pushing a sled. I'm like, calm down. Ohio is awesome. Ohio is Ohio for life. It's incredible. I've never heard that, but that's absolutely the reason.
Starting point is 01:57:55 There's no other reason. It couldn't have been that the linebacker core was decimated by injury. It couldn't have been that. It couldn't have been that Michigan finally had an offensive line. No, no, no. It's Sergeant Bobby. What do you call him? General Bobby? General Bobby. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:58:11 Whoa. Fucking name and rank. Jeez Louise. Should we knock him down? First Lieutenant? Hey, Joel, we appreciate you joining us, man. You were awesome. Good luck in the game tonight. I'm sure you're excited to get back into the booth.
Starting point is 01:58:27 We'll be watching alongside the backyard brawl. You're the man. Thank you for the time. Your time. I love the show, guys. You guys do an awesome job. Hey, we appreciate you, man. Ladies and gentlemen, Joel Klatt.
Starting point is 01:58:37 Hey, Joel! Let's go to the phones. She's awesome. Any other movies we want to watch? Top Gun's out. I was going to say, have you seen Top Gun? Oh, man, yeah. Okay, I was going to say, I figured that would be right up your alley.
Starting point is 01:58:51 Yeah, that was incredible. If the first one wasn't so good, I would say better than the first one, but the OG one, I would still say it's better. I never saw the first one, so I'm just going to say it's the best of all time. You ever seen Project Power on Netflix? Project X? Pretty good. Me? Yeah. Which. You ever seen Project Power on Netflix? Project S? Pretty good. Me?
Starting point is 01:59:07 Yeah. Which one's that? Project Power. Yeah, with Jamie Foxx. Where he's the guy with all the... With the superheroes and he takes a pill. I have seen that, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:15 Good movie. Just watched it. Yeah, it's awesome. Last night. Yeah. Not last night, over the weekend. That's why I was wondering too, because that's been out on Netflix for two years. A long time.
Starting point is 01:59:22 I watched it like a year ago. Yeah, over the weekend. I just watched Perfect Storm and I was just like, yeah, I that's been out on Netflix. A long time. Actually, like a year ago. Yeah, over the weekend. I just watched Perfect Storm, and I was just like, yeah, I'm kind of in the mood to watch a movie. It's almost done with movie series season because football is coming. Let's get this shit in this weekend. What do we need to watch? What needs to be watched?
Starting point is 01:59:38 Remember the Titans and Friday Night Lights I watch every year before starting? Oh, so it's like Grinch and the Santa Claus. Yeah, exactly. Marcy Blues, maybe. Yes, Marcy Blues. Theinch and the Santa Claus. Exactly. Varsity Blues, maybe. Yes, Varsity Blues. The replacements. Longest Yard. Longest Yard.
Starting point is 01:59:49 Point Break. So there's no series that have come out within the last fucking 15 years that we need to watch this weekend? No, no, no. You're good. What about the show where the one kid throws the ball so athletically? I was just going to say, the only shows out now with football and stuff is like the worst type of football,. All-American.
Starting point is 02:00:06 There's one of this kid running a slant. That is just the biggest joke I've ever seen. You're talking about that guy that does the gift throw? Yes, exactly. The Drew Brees throw. Tony. Tony coined it that. I didn't say it.
Starting point is 02:00:16 I've never once said that in my life. That was fucking rude to Drew Brees. You would remember that if I said that. I don't remember you saying it. I could have said it. I don't remember it, though. Yeah, you probably said it off-air. Let's go to the phones. Could have said it. I don't remember it, though. Yeah, you probably said it off air. Let's go to the phones.
Starting point is 02:00:27 Could have said it. I have no idea. Let's go to the 5 Energy phone line. Let's go to TJ in Morgantown. TJ, how's the vibes, pal? Backyard Brawl tonight. Let's start the season undefeated. Let's trust and climb.
Starting point is 02:00:36 Let's climb higher than we've ever climbed. Absolutely, Pat and the boys. How are you doing? Keep it moving. I'm actually here with the West Virginia Cheer Team. We're actually on our way to Pittsburgh right now for the Backyard Brawl. Ready to and the boys. How are you doing? Keep it moving. I'm actually here with the West Virginia cheer team. We're actually on our way to Pittsburgh right now for the backyard brawl, ready to hand the boys an ass-whooping that's been 10 years in the making. Hell yeah, TJ.
Starting point is 02:00:53 Bring the squad. Bring the spirit. Bring the joy of that cheer team, pal. Absolutely, Pat. Are you going to be here tonight at the game or no? All right, TJ. Good luck out there, TJ. Let's go to the phones.
Starting point is 02:01:03 What cheers you guys got? You guys do any cool country roads cheers? Country roads jerseys now. I will say the West Virginia band and cheer team top of the line. I mean, are they Tibble?
Starting point is 02:01:18 I actually was watching the best damn band in the land, Tabiddle. Tabiddle, excuse excuse me i was watching to biddle um a couple times and then i saw what alabama and georgia's bands were doing and aj's first response was to biddle would ruin these which i found to be great uh the pride of west virginia would fucking they would go toe for toe with anybody yeah yeah they would they got a drum line that's really good. Really? Very good.
Starting point is 02:01:46 They go Lanny and T. Cheerleaders go. And they have the mountain air fly. Are the guys jacked, though? Like, if the guys are jacked and look like they're all juiced, then you know it's a good squad. I don't know if TJ's on the tremolo and sandwiches or not, but I do know they fly.
Starting point is 02:01:58 They're a good squad. They're a good team. They used to have a guy running that squad. He was a little bigger man. And when YMCA would come on, they would zoom in on him, and he fucking. Let's go. I love that squad. He was a little bigger man. And when YMCA would come on, they would zoom in on him and he fucking... Let's go. I love that man. Did you ever drink
Starting point is 02:02:08 with a Mountaineer while he was still in costume? Me? Or is that a costume and he's just like that all the time? So the best Mountaineer of all time, I don't need to say his name,
Starting point is 02:02:18 Brady, I think was his name. Okay. Appleseed. Great beard. Brady Appleseed. Great hair. He had a good time. And I think he
Starting point is 02:02:25 He got his mountaineer ship Revoked Because of how good of a time he was What? Feels like that should be Why? You gotta go out like that Pre-requisite
Starting point is 02:02:32 He was awesome I forget his last Brady something Great beard We're talking about Great beard Perfect But he used to tear it down with us
Starting point is 02:02:41 That's awesome Then he got some You know Bullshit mountaineer I hate that Since then I think Does he allow to fire that down with us. That's awesome. Then they got some, you know, bullshit mountaineering. I hate that. Since then, I think. Is he allowed to fire that musket with blanks? That's from 1937 right here.
Starting point is 02:02:52 I think it actually is. Really? Is that a real panther? Looks familiar. That's from 1937, right? Yeah. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 02:02:59 Wait, what's that mountaineer do with no beard? You know your West Virginia history. Is this Brady? That is not Brady. I believe this man probably died shortly after this because he probably had too good of a time. Anytime you got to wear, you know, a, what is it? Boone hat?
Starting point is 02:03:15 What is it? What's the guy's name? Davy Crockett. Davy Crockett hat? Is that what that hat's called? Yeah, I think so. Might be Davy Crockett. Daniel Boone.
Starting point is 02:03:23 Could be Daniel Boone. Yeah, that one, I think. I don't know. Whatever Crockett. It could be Daniel Boone. It could be Daniel Boone. Yeah, that one, I think. I don't know. Whatever the hat is. 400 degrees. They wear these all-leather costumes. 7,000 degrees. You're talking about just losing 20 to 30 pounds a game.
Starting point is 02:03:33 And then they've got to travel with the gun and check it through every airport they go to. Always a scene. I mean, it is. It's a blast, I guess. You get to do push-ups and fire the gun. You still get to fire it, though? Yeah, it's blanks, though. I know.
Starting point is 02:03:46 Yeah, so was Alec Baldwin. That's what I'm saying. I thought it might change. AJ. Whoa. I didn't think you could fire blanks in public places anymore like that. How dare you? Shout out the Panther mascot for literally skinning a panther, though,
Starting point is 02:03:58 and just putting it on his head. 1937, a little different, though. That was their prerequisite. You got to kill your own panther. That's sweet. Kind of like a 300. That's sweet. Kind of like in 300. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 02:04:08 Kill the wolf, become a man. Oh! Oh! Oh! That was a great movie. Does that movie hold up? Yeah. Yeah, it does.
Starting point is 02:04:15 Absolutely. The Leoneidas dude. It was like the first big green screen thing, right? Yeah, that was. I think they had like a billion extra characters. That was real. I thought it was all real. I thought it was real too. No, out of the 300, they had like 18. extra characters. That was real. I thought it was all real. I thought it was real too. No, out of the 300, they had like 18.
Starting point is 02:04:27 The whole movie was green screen. The guy from PS I Love You was just fucking. Jerry Butler. Absolutely. The brain from Law of Body Citizen. No, they did catch heat because they actually did a couple of those elephants. They pushed them off that cliff and people were like, Jesus Christ, you can't be doing this. They had to get shot because they were in danger.
Starting point is 02:04:42 It was a good shot though. Didn't Thomas Edison electrocute an elephant? All right. Did he? Just trying to prove his current electricity. It was him or somebody back in the day. I think we like elephants, by the way. Fucking big brain.
Starting point is 02:04:52 Oh, yeah. Love elephants. I think we like it. I think I'm a big elephants guy. Never creeps into anybody's favorite animal conversation. One in Thailand just ripped a guy apart because the guy made him carry wood too far. And the elephant said, fuck you, and just ripped him apart. See, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 02:05:06 I think there's pretty good attitudes. I got elephant ornaments at my house, two wooden elephants. I see them every day before I leave the house. What do you say to them? Bye, elephants. Bye, elephants. Bye, let's see. Am I coming back?
Starting point is 02:05:19 Pretty good. That's the sound. Say hello. Elephants never get talked about as favorite animals. They should. They're top three. Alabama. Roll T talked about as favorite animals. They should. Alabama. Roll Tide.
Starting point is 02:05:28 Roll Tide. Yeah, they're big, but they're fucking smart. Does anyone have any as a pet? You know how people have these tigers and stuff in Texas and the Ohio guy that killed himself? Do anyone have elephants in captivity like that? I think that's the animal I would like to have. I would like to have a couple elephants. Wasn't Bhagavan riding an elephant?
Starting point is 02:05:44 I believe so. I was also going to say in India, don't they ride elephants? Yeah, it's always really uncomfortable, right? It's not a smooth ride on top of it. I also told Grudges, too. Yeah, they're smart. They remember. There was one that he went to the guy's funeral. Oh, yeah. Will Smith is riding
Starting point is 02:05:57 elephants. Prince Ali is he. Hey, Will Smith is back, by the way. Ali Ababa. Ali Ababa. Will Smith is back. Yeah. He was trending the other day. I was looking through it. Is it Paul Z? People said people are on his side, I think.
Starting point is 02:06:11 Oh, they're back on his side. Is he getting hired? I don't know. No, he's still banned. And they still canceled those movies. You're banned! You're banned! What a moment in this show's history.
Starting point is 02:06:22 Who'd you ban? Everyone. It was me. I bet on the Pittsburgh Bengals. Yeah, he was rooting for the Steelers. That was a terrible time. Twice this week, I was reminded that. That you hate Foxy? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:32 Let's go to the fence. 11-0. What's your favorite animal, D-Butt? Good question. Wolf. I'll go to wolf. Wolf! Strong answer.
Starting point is 02:06:41 My wolf. I don't think I've heard a lot of wolf answers as well. You have a wolf t-shirt? I don't. Yeah, so you don't like wolves of wolf answers as well. You have a wolf t-shirt? I don't. Yeah. So you don't like wolves. I'll get one. He has a wolf t-shirt.
Starting point is 02:06:49 Two. Strength of the pegs and the wolf. Strength of the wolves and the pack. Oh, you like that they're a squad. Yeah, they wrote, yeah. And they're ferocious. Absolutely. Big old dog.
Starting point is 02:06:58 Ready to handle business. Wolf. They were in 300 too, right? The wolves? Yeah. Yeah, they killed him. Yeah. Yep.
Starting point is 02:07:04 Did you guys know Bill was in 300? Really? McComas? Yeah, he was a stunt double for the one Spartan that became a traitor, went over to Xerxes' side, showed him where the go-kart was. With the big lump on his back. Bill! That was the hot talk.
Starting point is 02:07:18 Bill! That's not true. Bill catches more strays than anybody. No, they're not strays. These are direct shots. Did you hear what he just said? You're right. You're right.
Starting point is 02:07:27 Bill. Bill, I'm so sorry, Bill. Jeez. We were talking earlier about Gumpy's immigration and having a real thing. And then Tone goes, yeah, now Bill stands in Gumpy's spot. And I got to deal with it. Bill. Bill.
Starting point is 02:07:42 Bill. He's 30 seconds behind. He's locked in. He's trying to get those NFTs because I think they just dropped. No, He's 30 seconds. He's locked in. He's trying to get those NFTs because I think they just dropped. No, they didn't drop. No, got pushed back. I think they pushed him back. So we talked to Dave Feldman yesterday.
Starting point is 02:07:52 It was a great conversation. Riveting conversation. Everybody learned a lot from it. All the answers that we needed, we got from him. Everybody loved him, too. Yeah. Well, I don't know. Everyone is here.
Starting point is 02:08:03 What are you saying, Derrick? What are you saying, Derrick? What are you saying there's what are you saying what are you saying there i was hearing from my timeline everybody loved him people fucking hated that guy bill bill dave feldman doesn't need to know listen the opinions of the sheep do not concern that of the line that is dave felt that's right now i will say bill nick said this was you can you please say and clear up if this was you. Can you please say and clear up if this was you or not
Starting point is 02:08:26 in, you were not in 300, right? No, yeah. Yeah, it was actually my debut, my acting debut. All right, Bill. My IMDB. This is my only role.
Starting point is 02:08:34 Bill, I want to let you know what everybody says and does to you around here is a bunch of bullshit, Bill. It is. Okay, Bill, you code YouTube back there. You're teammates with AJ.
Starting point is 02:08:43 You do so much work that we appreciate the fuck around here. You know that, Bill? I don't know what everybody's deal is. Thank you. I appreciate that. Now, with that terminal list of yours, if I'm on it after what I just said, that is bullshit. It's actually just Nick Moraldo 15 times.
Starting point is 02:08:56 Okay. Hell yeah. Tone took some shots of you earlier as well. Yeah, but he knows that's all good fun. We party all the time. What Diggs didn't mention is that Bill doesn't smell like cat piss anymore, and everyone appreciates that very much. Well, Bill, it's great to hear that you got your house in order.
Starting point is 02:09:12 Is that real? He had a house problem. I don't think it was just cat piss. He bought a house. It was a fugaze. Everything was wrong with it. It still had, I think it had anthrax in the door, actually. He bought a shack.
Starting point is 02:09:22 It was unbelievable. He's flipped it around. I saw it taut up on a ladder. I think everything's getting fixed. Yeah, just built that thing over his fireplace. Yeah, it looks fucking good. Bill's about to flip a house and make a couple hundred thousand dollars. Everybody's going to be laughing at him. He lived in a pigsty. He flipped it
Starting point is 02:09:33 around. Now he's going to become wealthy. We're proud of you, Bill. Speaking of wealthy, what happened to these fucking NFL all day things? I thought we were getting in the game today. Way too many people trying to access the site today, so they had to delay it until 3 o'clock, and there's still too many people. Now it's delayed until 4.
Starting point is 02:09:47 Wow. Okay. Too much traction. I wonder what happened between all the other times and this time. Okay. Tech people going blockchain and couldn't figure this shit out. Well, the blockchain's on the back end when you decide to sign up and pay for it. But the tech, they could have never expected it.
Starting point is 02:10:02 300,000 people visit the website. That's a lot. You're telling me 300,000 people are fucking clamoring to spend $85 to get a video of Kyle Pitts catching a six-yard slant last year in a Week 14 game? You're getting more than just that. You're getting numerous plays. Do you not remember we opened a pack here?
Starting point is 02:10:19 We did, but the Kyle Pitts one was rare. Yeah, we looked up the value on that one. It's $230, I think. Who's buying it? Who might be buying it? I don't think... No one's really bought them recently, but that value is being floated out.
Starting point is 02:10:32 So we could just start making up all values then. This thing's worth $45,000 because it is worth what somebody's willing to pay for it. And at some point, maybe somebody will pay that amount. We have one more pack left. Can we open that? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:44 I bought a whole mess of NFTs last night. I actually just went on YouTube and ripped the highlights off and they're just in my phone right now. I paid nothing for them. No, you don't own them. You don't own them? Yeah, you can't put them.
Starting point is 02:10:52 You don't know what it's like to own them. I'll look it up in that blockchain. 99% of possession is possession. Got it. Damn. Well said, though. That's sound. This motherfucker ain't never lie.
Starting point is 02:11:03 You know what I mean? Good fucking point. What'd you say? He's going to look them up in the blockchain? No, you can't look anybody up in the blockchain. It know what I mean? Good fucking point. What'd you say? He's going to look him up in the blockchain? No, he can't look anybody up in the blockchain. It's the email that he signed up with. It looks like we cannot look up the new pack because the website is indeed crashed. Come on!
Starting point is 02:11:17 How do you not fucking prepare for this? We're trying to do this all day. What are we doing? Dave. Come on, Dave. Dave, you're the GM. Start coding. Get you a bill.
Starting point is 02:11:29 Fucking guy. I will say the FanDuel face-off, field goal face-off thing did get done yesterday at one particular point because of so much activity. But right back up like 10 minutes later. Yeah, held strong. Not hours and hours and hours. No. Well, we're getting some numbers back on how many people played the field goal face-off yesterday.
Starting point is 02:11:46 A lot. Here we go. That's really cool of people. I stink at the face off. I'm not going to say it. I suck. So you suck? I'm bad. Are you good at video games? I'm going to be really good. I'm not good at phone video games. AJ, are you good at video games to begin with? I mean, you just said I'm going to be really good
Starting point is 02:12:02 just like you said you were going to win the American Central Championship. You got closer this year than you ever have in the past but are you going to stink at this game forever aj no if i spend some time with it i mean it's the first phone game that i have played i've never been a phone game guy but it is it's fun man i could see it's it's kind of difficult to tell you the truth yeah every kick is something new and i think that is why it'll continue to be good ten thousand dollars to the highest score that is played in the first week in a money game. 60 cents is what the cheapest money game costs.
Starting point is 02:12:27 You could win $1.05 back. That's good on your money. Compete against people. And as you can see here, you might just run into an A.J. Hawks sighting whenever you're playing a little field goal faceoff. Who you don't want to run into is Ty, Nick, Connor, any of the guys that have been practicing, Zito even, who have been practicing on this.
Starting point is 02:12:47 They were raking in cash yesterday. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Last night I said I was up from like 2 a.m. to like 4 a.m. And this poor son of a bitch, I beat him no bullshit, probably like 25 to 30 times in a row. We started in like the $5 games. I beat him about 10 in a row in those.
Starting point is 02:13:07 He dropped down to the cheaper ones, probably thought he was going to be okay. But that late, it was just me and him in there. So, unfortunately, I had to drop down to that one. Unfortunately, I had to go beat him down there. Literally this morning. I bought a Sony 85-inch TV with all my winnings from last night. Seriously? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:24 Yeah, you were doing a lot of fresh meat. He put out a tweet yesterday. He was saying this in the office like redundancy. Fresh meat. I would walk out of my office stand at the kitchen
Starting point is 02:13:37 I'd hear I'd hear the tail end of what it was either saying and then I go over to like the court or something and I hear in the back fresh meat. I'm like, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 02:13:49 He's like, I'm talking about the game. I want fresh meat in here. And then he showed me a tweet. He was about to tweet, fresh meat with three kissy faces. He said, you think anybody will know what this means? I was like, I've been in here. I don't know what it means. And he let that thing fly, though, huh?
Starting point is 02:14:01 Zeta, you had a great night last night, didn't you? Oh, yeah. That a baby. Congrats. Thank you, guys. It's a great game. night, didn't you? Oh, yeah. Atta baby. Congrats. Thank you, guys. It's a great game. Can I get it on my iPad? Yep.
Starting point is 02:14:08 Yeah. I think it'll be easier on my iPad. Yeah, with your fingers? Yeah. You might be able to. It might still be fresh meat. They did just add $20 games. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 02:14:19 Get in there, AJ. Hey, there's some people posting scores, screenshot and tweeting. Like 14, 15, 16,000. There's people in there that are getting good at their games. Yeah, they'll get you. There's some people posting scores, screenshotting and tweeting. Like 14, 15, 16,000. There's people in there that are getting good at their game. There's some guys. Nick went on a three-game losing streak. A couple fresh meat. I was getting cleaned up there for it, but I came back.
Starting point is 02:14:36 I ride the wave. Let's go to the fence. How'd you do? I won something awesome. I mean, I got that high score before, and I just know I'm never going to touch it again. So it has kind of deterred me a little bit. You got the high score before it went live, though.
Starting point is 02:14:51 I know, but that's what I mean. Like, I know I'll never have that round again. It was magical. I thought Darius was playing right now. I was about to get excited. How many? What was your score? 25,000. What time is your flight? I'm checking right now. I double checked. You don't know what time it is? What if it's, is it four?
Starting point is 02:15:07 How high is it? It's been high for three days. It's not true. There's not come down. Well, it's on the center block and you can fly to wherever you want. That's why I lost all those whites at YMCA last night. How did that happen? Let's go to the phones.
Starting point is 02:15:22 That's a shame. You'll get humbled up here real quick, though, won't you? It's definitely not, but I'll go in there when the real players are in there. Let's go to the phones. Let's go to Eli in Michigan. Eli, what's going on, pal? Not much. How you doing? Keep it moving. You know how it goes.
Starting point is 02:15:38 Quick question is the NFC things that are going on. When are we going to get the greatest play of all time, which is the own onside kick recovery, the one and only onside kick recovery for about a billion dollars that it's going to sell because, you know, it's a one-in-a-lifetime play. Thank you, Eli.
Starting point is 02:15:55 I appreciate that. I was thinking about that yesterday. Like, A.J. has that play that was a penalty where he's jumping over Aaron or Darren Sproles, and that would be a sick one. D-Butt has numerous pick sixes where I think swag into the end zone with a great shot of it. I was thinking of that yesterday. I did not sign up for the NFLPA, though, my last couple years in the NFL.
Starting point is 02:16:14 So if I was to make a deal with them, they would have to make a deal directly with fucking me. Much better. Much better, yeah. That's why I asked the question yesterday, how much are the players getting from these NFC? We negotiated a deal with NFLPA, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. How much are the players getting negotiated with the NFLPA?
Starting point is 02:16:31 003%. Maybe. Maybe. We shall see. But if I was to get on there, I think it would be sick. I think it would be sweet. But that would have to be business that we would have to figure out before it even happens.
Starting point is 02:16:40 But is that the same thing you were thinking, AJ, whenever he was talking about it? Like, you know, AJ, maybe AJ owns him jumping over Darren Sproles. That'd be awesome. And then maybe it goes all the way to you chasing the ref down the sideline after the game. It could all be sweet, AJ. Yeah, I guess it could be.
Starting point is 02:16:54 I was thinking like Dana Orszolowski, the step-out-of-bounds play that he plays on ESPN all the time, doesn't he want to own that? He wouldn't want anybody else to, I don't think. Because they literally buy it and then hold that phone over his head. Yeah. He could sue people if they were buy it and then hold that phone over his head. He could sue people if they were to run it then, if he owned it. It's my clip.
Starting point is 02:17:12 Yeah, how's that work? D-Boy, you know anything about this game? You're a big crypto guy, obviously. Zoom out, hold on, diamond hands, long term, it's worth it. Okay, now with the NFTs. Let's do this NFTs. Some NFTs have worked, some NFTs have not. This one with the NFL, let's assume it's going to survive because the NFL is involved with it.
Starting point is 02:17:26 Did you think yesterday anything, like any plays that you would want or if this was something you would even be interested in? I didn't take much away from yesterday, honestly. As far as the highlights and on and off, I still don't get that part of it. I do think there is some use for NFTs going forward for things like tickets to game, birth certificates, driver's license, you know, vaccination records, shit like that that can be recorded on the blockchain. I think it is use case for going forward. But the highlight stuff, I still just. I don't understand. Yeah, I don't understand.
Starting point is 02:17:56 The NFTs have technically been existing since emails sent tickets to things and flight tickets and scan this, scan that. I understand how digital shit is good. I understand that. The whole, because then the NFL earned the rights, right, of that broadcast right there. Yeah. So then how? Yes. That's what I don't understand.
Starting point is 02:18:21 You don't technically own the play. Like, just because you buy it doesn't mean, like, the NFL is, like, signing over, like, the ownership of that to you. Can you just run it on all your socials? I mean, I assume so. Can you? It says you can. But who knows? Who knows?
Starting point is 02:18:36 Isn't that what Feldman said yesterday? You can connect your account to the social, and then it is yours, and then that's the only way that people know that you own it. So we tried to do this whenever NFL All Day first came out. We looked up through their buy lines, and it says you can't use it as footage rights because we wanted to use it right before the Super Bowl. Because we were just going to buy. We were just going to buy whatever plays you wanted to buy. Yeah, I remember that, yeah.
Starting point is 02:18:56 We were going to drop a quick $100,000, just get plays for the Super Bowl week. Would have worked. So we'd have footage rights, and just we'd go gif to gif to gif to gif. Yeah. Can't do it. We tried. I still don't understand what it is, though. I don't know why it's valuable.
Starting point is 02:19:10 It's only valuable if people say it's valuable. So let's assume it'll be valuable because it's the NFL. And the NFL's valuable. But the NFL owns everything. The NFL. Yeah. What about the Pokemons? Are all those things still big?
Starting point is 02:19:22 Oh, yeah. The Pokemons? Yeah. You know, Logan Paul, didn't he buy that $4 million deal? He wore it to WrestleMania or SummerSlam? Yeah, he spent a whole million dollars on a bunch of unopened packs. I'll sell you my Charizard for $40,000. To who?
Starting point is 02:19:36 To anyone. Do you have a Charizard? Yeah. PSA 7, though. What the hell is that? Yeah, that's what Logan Paul has. That was like 3.5 mil. There was a gang of Marks playing Pokemon Go at that park at Puchella.
Starting point is 02:19:47 What the hell? What do you mean? They're still playing Pokemon Go? Still a thing? They were finding little dogs and cats out there that you got to catch. They're at close now, right? When I saw our entire offensive line. Weren't they killing people doing that?
Starting point is 02:19:59 Yeah, people were walking off of garages. Yeah, almost caught Mewtwo, though. What's that? Almost caught Mewtwo. Off the top of that parking garage? And off the garages. Yeah. Almost caught Mewtwo though. What's that? Almost caught Mewtwo. Off the top of that parking garage? And off the Grand Canyon. That other guy who exploded into a million pieces when he landed. But did he get him?
Starting point is 02:20:12 No. Didn't even catch him? Didn't even catch him. That stinks. Turned out to be a Diglett. Yep. Not good. Because Diglett sucks.
Starting point is 02:20:21 Yeah. Pretty common. Yeah. Where is he? Find those just about anywhere. People were walkinglett sucks. Yeah, pretty common. Yeah. Where is it? Find those just about anywhere. People are walking into windows. People that have been in public for the first time. This is people going in public for the first time with this Pokemon Go,
Starting point is 02:20:35 and they had no idea how to act or what to look at. Just walking into cars, walking into traffic, walking into walls, walking off parking garages, walking into the Grand Canyon. So it got people active, which I think is good for the first time. But it was certainly a backfire. When I saw our entire offensive line playing and almost late for a team meeting, I knew we were fucked. Yeah, you knew you were going 2-14 in that moment, right?
Starting point is 02:20:56 Well, me and Benetar were watching these guys. Does it tell you, like, hot or cold when they walk? Like, how does that work? Your Pokeball shake. What's up, D-Bud? You're confused? I'm confused as shit. I'm trying to figure it out right now.
Starting point is 02:21:09 So you know what this game is? It was an app called Pokemon Go. So you like see it. So I would see one like there. And then you would have to like either hit it on your phone or throw something at it. And what do you get? People were walking off of fucking ledges. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:21:22 Dying. Adults? All right. Yes. Well-deserved. If that happens, it's deserved. Well, that's what a lot of people said. Like, well, probably the right people
Starting point is 02:21:29 leave in our world if this is what happens. Same adults that fall off shit when they're taking selfies and die. So, whatever. I don't think they're the same, but similar situations. Both in the umbrella of marks.
Starting point is 02:21:41 Definitely. Selfie marks, Pokemon marks. But Pokemon's beloved by a lot of people. I think Pokemon Go really did get people active for the first time in their lives. I think there were people who were on the move. But it took over there for a bit. It was huge.
Starting point is 02:21:54 There was that video of that guy wearing a fucking harness and he had like 40 phones and was walking around just constantly. That's when you know. You win money? No, you just add them to your pokey decks. You got to catch them all. Bingo.
Starting point is 02:22:08 You own them then? We had an offensive lineman that was close to catching them all, I felt like. I can't believe that. Like, that is crazy. What year was this? I don't remember. It was obviously up in Anderson. Okay.
Starting point is 02:22:21 It was after dinner, before a special teams meeting. You know, that little area. Me and Vinny are sitting up there on the back of a golf cart, waiting to head in, and we see six offensive linemen running through the, galloping through the little area there and celebrating. And they come up, what were you guys doing there? And they go, what were you guys doing? It looked like you guys were very excited.
Starting point is 02:22:43 Long day today. You guys got a lot of energy, obviously. What happened there? He's like, oh, just caught a whatever. Caught a Gengar. Whatever it is. And what's that? And they're like, oh, there's Pokemon Go.
Starting point is 02:22:52 Like, excuse me? What is it? Pokemon Go. Oh, what a game. And then they walked in front of us, and me and Vinny go, we're fucked. Middle training. You think anybody at the Patriots is fucking chasing a goddamn Charizard right now? I don't think so. I don't think so.
Starting point is 02:23:05 I don't think so. I just didn't fully... Wow, there he is. Legend. He caught them all. Yeah. Fucking dog. There's people that
Starting point is 02:23:13 traveled the world because there was location-specific places where you could only catch, like in Japan or San Francisco, you could only catch certain Pokemon.
Starting point is 02:23:20 Like Colt's training camp that was only coming. Yeah. Your room, though. Snorlax. It's a place to visit in Anderson. My room. Yeah, we got a long fall this fall.
Starting point is 02:23:30 It's going to have some training camp stories. Hey, it was good. I had a pretty good setup in there. Oh, yeah. Pretty good spot right off the lobby. Nice. Oh, yeah, it's perfect. First floor.
Starting point is 02:23:39 Recliner, bed, TV, baked goods normally, some other stuff in there. And I just had nothing to do. So as people came back, I was like, oh, thank you. People were here. Hey, how we doing? That's a fool. Training camp for you guys, I don't know how you guys did it. Honestly, that thing fucking sucked.
Starting point is 02:23:57 That's why everybody, like, retires, right? Don't want to do it. I do not miss training camp. If you went in the early ones, like, as you got older, it got easier. You know, like, as far as the physical part. It's really mental. But I was one of the players that kind of liked training camp. Getting away.
Starting point is 02:24:11 Yeah, you get away. Obviously, every team, every locker room is different. So, that's when you really get to kind of know the guys, know your coaches. So, yeah, it wasn't bad. And you get off day, like, what, every four or five days, like, the last couple years. Now they do, yeah. Yeah, it wasn't. I enjoyed it, but I never had to do anything.
Starting point is 02:24:27 So I had a good time. I'm going to go stop in this group's meeting. What's going on, fucking losers? You guys got another three hours of film? That sucks. I'm going to go catch a Pokemon. Let's go to the phones. Last phone call of the day.
Starting point is 02:24:42 Should we go to Tampa, Nebraska, Colorado, or California? Nebraska. I say we never go to Nebraska. Plus Penn State's playing tonight. Nebraska. So what's that have to do with Nebraska? Z always says Nebraska when Penn State comes up. Why do you do that, Zito? Joe knew. Let's go to the phones.
Starting point is 02:25:00 Let's go to Chris in Nebraska on the 5 Energy front. Do you know what that means right there? What just happened? No clue. Okay, good. That means a lot of people probably don't. Chris in Nebraska, what do you want to. Do you know what that means right there, what just happened? No clue. Okay, good. That means a lot of people probably don't. Chris in Nebraska, what do you want to talk about, Pop? You never know. I think I know. Pat and the boys, how are you doing?
Starting point is 02:25:12 Keep it moving. Stool President was on Patty the Batty's podcast last week. And Portnoy thinks that because the U.S.'s best athletes, such as yourself, Pat, don't play soccer. They play other sports like football or basketball. We are in a powerhouse globally. If we could force all the U.S. best athletes like LeBron and Tyreek to play for the U.S. team,
Starting point is 02:25:29 one, who's the starting lineup? And two, with five years to practice, could the boys win the World Cup? Chris, great question. This has been a debate for a long time, and it's always been chatted about how there are other options in the United States to play in other sports that have maybe much bigger benefits than
Starting point is 02:25:45 committing to soccer your entire life. Where over in Europe and a lot of places, soccer is really the only outlet for a lot of different neighborhoods, communities, and cultures. So I do believe soccer has a little bit of a head start in some countries because it's just their culture to play. Everybody plays, your dad plays, your brother plays. Your neighbor plays. Just natural knowledge of the game is spread quicker, just like basketball is here, just like football is here. It is just treated vastly differently. Now, if we had all our best athletes play soccer,
Starting point is 02:26:19 would we win the World Cup? Yes. Would we even? Yes. Come on. We wouldn't win it without that. Yeah, we're about to win it. We're about to win it this year without OBJ out there, who would probably be a starting striker for any fucking country
Starting point is 02:26:32 if he was to commit to soccer, no problem at all. Without LeBron playing fucking goalie. You got LeBron playing goalie. He's 6'8", and he's faster than fucking everybody. I mean, that is just two positions. Greek freak at goal. Yeah, I put Giannis at goal. He's going to be on our team. Well, he's not. He's from'8", and he's faster than fucking everybody. I mean, that is just two positions. Greek freak at goal? Yeah, I put Giannis at goal. He's going to be on our team.
Starting point is 02:26:46 Well, he's not. He's from the United States. Hey, boys, sorry. We're talking about a fucking international sport. It's the World Cup here, boys. Okay, we're representing the United States. Jokic, center back. He's not from America.
Starting point is 02:26:56 I'm just fucking Greek freak. Yeah, we're fucking beating Greek freak. Brian, OBJ. It'll never happen. Martin Gramatica. Of course. His brother. Bill, OBJ. It'll never happen. Martin Gramatica. Of course. His brother. Bill.
Starting point is 02:27:08 Jake Walker. But yes, we would win, but we're going to win anyways with just our guys that have stayed committed to soccer in the world that we currently live in.
Starting point is 02:27:17 We have a lot more people than a lot of these countries that are soccer powerhouses. Sure. There's no excuse that we don't have enough people anymore. And I think when I was growing up, I was in Project 20, I think,
Starting point is 02:27:28 which was for the World Cup and for the Olympics or something. Like, I had a lot more schools looking at me for soccer. I did the ODP, played overseas, did the whole thing. But I didn't think it was ever an excuse. Like, oh, our best athletes are playing another sport. Because I thought the group that we had was big enough. The pool that we had big enough to pull from was a good enough squad that we should be able to compete because I played my entire life. I committed every fucking minute of my life to it basically growing up. So how much
Starting point is 02:27:52 more could I really be committed to it? All these other guys that you're seeing having great success in soccer, let's assume their entire lives have been spent playing soccer, traveling for soccer, investing in soccer. So I don't think that's necessarily an excuse. But as I've gotten older and I've looked back, it's like, obviously, if we had everybody that played every other sport professionally that's from America play one sport and only have one sole focus on a sport, we would beat the fuck out of everybody. That wouldn't even be a question.
Starting point is 02:28:20 Isn't it also, I've heard this this you can clarify if it's true or not a lot of the best players don't always make it to the national team because of politics and bullshit yeah there used to be a lot of politic and i got lucky some people liked me but some of my friends were much better than i was and they never got a shot because they were not necessarily well liked by people so just like everything politics gets in the fucking way but let's assume it's better now you would hope so let's assume it's better now let's assume that is the case but i feel like there's going to be assholes in every single genre of life, and we've just got to accept that, I think, to go forward.
Starting point is 02:28:51 It feels like internationally, too. Like basketball has never been bigger. You see a lot more players now coming from Europe that are unbelievable as soon as they come over because they've been focusing on basketball. No, but also they all have soccer feet. Yeah, true. So everybody has soccer feet. Like you look at a lot of the guys even americans that go on to play professional sports anything and
Starting point is 02:29:10 they say they grew up playing soccer like their feet it's it's good for the feet it's good for the feet good for the stamina not great for the knees if you're a little heavy body you know beat my knees down mls got a chance to do Just grow, continue to grow and be like that way kids can look up and say, hey, you know, just like we see NBA, NFL, MLB. MLS got a chance to be that. I think Methy, if he comes to. Miami. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:29:34 Ronaldo, if he comes over. I think if we get like the big names. Now, we've done that a lot. Wayne Rooney came over. Thierry Henry came over. Zlatan Ibrahimović came over. Gareth Bale. Gareth Bale. Gareth Bale is currently playing.
Starting point is 02:29:46 The Italians on Toronto FC. Yeah, the two Italian kids are very good on Toronto FC. So we've done that, but it's going to have to be like the best in the world when they are the best in the world. But right now, like Christian Polithic and the boys, Brendan Aronson is currently playing for Leeds and everything. If they were to come back to MLS, I'd be pissed. I think we'd all be pissed.
Starting point is 02:30:07 Like, hey, no, we're finally doing it. But the goal would probably be 15, 20 years from now or 10 years from now, the MLS to be competitive enough that if you were to play in a full-time, you'd still get better. Because I think a lot of the guys that come from overseas to come play here, it's like they're just playing in scrimmages, and they're not getting better.
Starting point is 02:30:23 So it's at the tail end of their career when they've already peaked, and they don't need to keep working on a game.mages, and they're not getting better. So it's at the tail end of their career when they've already peaked, and they don't need to keep working on a game. You go over there, you're, like, getting better. It's like iron sharpens iron. So if Portland Timbers continue to produce, and Miami FC continues to produce, and they continue to grow and go. And if we win a World Cup, that'll change a lot.
Starting point is 02:30:40 If we do well in this World Cup at all, even though it's in the middle of American football season, so not as many eyes are going to be on it. But if you do well in the World Cup, a lot of kids will be like, oh, we can do that. And that's a fucking thing, you know? Even them going to the semis. Obviously, they're going to win. Any success at all.
Starting point is 02:30:53 Getting out of the group. Getting into the knockout stages. England's not going to make it. Knock them the fuck out. Sorry about it. It's our game now. It's coming home. Anywhere past what Lando Donovan did in the boys, then it's a win.
Starting point is 02:31:06 So just think about, like, this guy, right? Yeah. Or this guy. If this dude played. AJ, how tall are you? Barely 6'1". 6'1", a little heavier. You ran a 4'5".
Starting point is 02:31:16 Let's say you were to cut weight because you're playing soccer, probably run a 4'4", 4'3", 40-inch vertical. Let's assume that he could fly around and probably use that fucking massive noggin to score. Darius Butler is one of the greatest athletes I've ever seen do anything. If his entire life he was just focusing on being a left outside back or a middle back, let's assume he would figure it the fuck out.
Starting point is 02:31:39 It's hard not to have that conversation every single time, but when you're having that conversation, you're trying to explain why you're not as good. We are as good. Fuck yeah. We are as as good and we're winning the world cup so i don't want to entertain anything hell yeah let's get out of here where's that world cup get her it's still happening right oh yeah well dude perfect ain't talking about it true oh what happened not anymore they're not not? I thought they were like the main people for that. Too much backlash. I respect that.
Starting point is 02:32:08 They couldn't handle it? Did they really get backlash? Oh, yeah. Wait, what did they do, honestly? Were they like trying to let Americans know, hey, we're playing in this? Qatar's tourism board hired them. Yeah. No way.
Starting point is 02:32:22 They did a tourism commercial. You guys serious? them. Yeah. No way. They did a tourism commercial. You guys serious? Yes. Yes. Okay. They paid them to come out and ride horses or camels or whatever and play golf and shit. And it was like, hey, Qatar's not that bad. And they did a trick shot off the top of the stadium.
Starting point is 02:32:37 Yep. And the stadium is obviously on top of... Coke bottles and dead bodies. 25,000 dead bodies. Oh, jeez Louise. Did they know that? That's not true, Darius don't listen to what they're saying Not 25,000 but like 15 For sure
Starting point is 02:32:50 But the whole world is going to have their eyes On Qatar So the networks that are going to be covering Qatar, is everybody going to Bash them like they did Dude Perfect or And Liv, like it's comedy that this is Happening right after the Liv tour and all the uproar that's been going on the entire
Starting point is 02:33:07 year with the Liv tour. Are we going to be mad at everybody? If we are, just let me know. If we're going to be mad at everybody, I'm fucking ready. I love it. I love being mad at everybody. I'll fucking holler at some people if you need me to. Fucking right we will. We almost did it this morning because our peach tea from Quills wasn't as good. That's right. No, today's batch wasn't as good. No, it was good.
Starting point is 02:33:23 It just wasn't as good. When you guys came back in, you were singing quite a different tune, if I do recall. I was just packed in there, dude. We were lucky to be there. Yeah, exactly. The block is hot, though. A lot of cops around the office these days. They have got a taste of the sweet nectar of Quills and buzzing around here.
Starting point is 02:33:40 They are. Well, Quills is taking a couple laps around the block, and I think we know why. Well, Quills is taking a couple laps around the block, and I think we know why. Because if they don't have some police up there, then there are going to be poop-smeared windows all over Quills for the next 20 years. What do you mean? Nobody's going to disrespect Quills. Everybody respects Quills. People who are on meth don't know what a Quills is.
Starting point is 02:34:04 No, they do, because they can smell that peach tea from inside. And they're acting like zombies, and they're going to try and break down the doors. Have you been to Quo's yet? No, I will not go. Foxy, tell this man. Foxy went for the first time yesterday or this morning? Yeah, yesterday. It was fucking fantastic.
Starting point is 02:34:17 Connor, you're really just missing out. I asked Foxy, hey, Foxy, how's the coffin? He gave me this face. No, no. It's good. No, you just got to find your coffin. Not always easy, but once you do boy is that a fucking satisfying feeling yeah i found my coffee cold brew bingo hell yeah has anyone drank just regular black coffee from there uh foxy did i
Starting point is 02:34:37 thought yeah how was it fucking great it's just not it's not can't wait to get a little coffee lesson too. Connor knows everything about coffee. I do. I started drinking it two years ago. More milk. It's all the milk. That was the mistake I made the first time I went into Quills. I ordered the cup of milk.
Starting point is 02:34:57 Ordered the Schultz. The little latte? Let's get out of here. D-Bot, thank you for joining us. Appreciate you having me. AJ, you're the best Jet passing What a fucking guy Big thanks to Joel Klatt
Starting point is 02:35:08 Who I like a lot Yeah he's the man Definitely an OSI game I like Joel Klatt a lot Tony Great show today You too dude Really good
Starting point is 02:35:16 You got to showcase Your college knowledge Did you hear him He was almost doing That thing that he did To that one fantasy guy Matthew Barry Talking to Joel He's like Hey Joel We all know We were going to Fucking say Okay this team's This team almost doing that thing that he did to that one fantasy guy. Matthew Barry.
Starting point is 02:35:28 He's like, hey Joel, we all know what you're going to fucking say. This team, this team, this team, this team. College football, your brain is good. I love it. You need to tell that doctor that's doing the brain scans. Any results? I didn't even have a test yet. Forgot about it.
Starting point is 02:35:43 Blood test came back good. Congrats. No reason for any more testing. I didn't even have a test yet. Forgot about it. Blood test came back good, so. Hey! Congrats. No reason for any more testing. It's probably just my brain, I assume. Yeah, it's a gift, by the way, to all of us. Not a curse. Remember that.
Starting point is 02:35:55 Hammerdown's like 10 minutes. Talks to the table. Great job. Everybody in the back, we appreciate you. We are out of here. Football, NFL football is just seven days away. We can never forget that. Big time college football games tonight. Let's go, Mountaineers. Here you go.
Starting point is 02:36:06 I believe a boost is live on FanDuel right now. If you are in a state in which the FanDuel sportsbook is available, we are boosting West Virginia plus seven and a half to plus 125. When originally it was minus 110. Okay, that's a good boost. Here we go. That's a good boost. Let's do it, Graham.
Starting point is 02:36:22 Let's do it, Graham. Fuck it. Maybe get out there and put the helmet back on, Graham. You're the only player I know on the team. You're not even a player or coach Let's do it, Graham. Let's do it, Graham. Fuck it. Maybe get out there and put the helmet back on, Graham. Woo! Hell yeah. You're the only player I know on the team. You're not even a player. You're a coach. Need you here, Graham.
Starting point is 02:36:29 Whether you like West Virginia or not tonight, you got to take it because it's good value. It is great value. From minus 110 to plus 125. That's a good boost. Let's enjoy it. Tomorrow we'll be celebrating it. Tomorrow will be Feel Good Friday. We'll see you then.
Starting point is 02:36:40 See you in about 19, 20 hours and 30 minutes. Goodbye.

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