The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 732 - Feel Good Friday With Aaron Rodgers, Stefon Diggs, & AJ Hawk
Episode Date: September 2, 2022On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about last night's great college football games, how excited they are to have football back, the importance of special teams, and how miserable it is p...laying in the cold, and everything else happening around the NFL, as we approach the start of week 1. Joining the progrum is 4x NFL MVP, Super Bowl Champion/MVP, the proprietor of the Aaron Rodgers Book Club, friend of the show, Aaron Rodgers to chat about his last few months, having a new perspective on his career, his journey with Ayahuasca, his thoughts on the upcoming season, his announcement of season 3 of Aaron Rodgers Tuesday's being renewed, and much more (3:27-57:13). Later, 2x Pro Bowler, All-Pro, one of the best receivers in the NFL, Buffalo Bills star, Stefon Diggs joins the show to chat about how training camp has been, if things feel different in Buffalo, Josh Allen continuing to get better, Von Miller disrupting practice, and much more (1:10:05-1:26:13). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hello beautiful people. It is feel good Friday, September 2nd, 2022. And this sports show shall
commence immediately following this beat drop from Twine. There it was. Here we go. Let's have a show.
Football is all the way back. College football delivered in a massive fashion last night.
Obviously Penn State with a thriller late drives down the field in West Lafayette, Indiana, and gets a win over Purdue.
Even though I was already sending out texts to all my friends that went to Penn State, letting them know,
Oh, no, you guys stink.
James Franklin can't coach his way out of a fucking bag.
Instead, Sean Clifford, the 45-year-old, walks right down the field, 6-7 on the final drive.
Touchdown, big big win in the Penn
State Nittany Lions or want to know with a scare the other game that took place was electrifying
I'm going to be honest although the outcome wasn't my favorite no sure it'll happen it was a fucking
hell of a game the backyard brawl was awesome the backyard brawl was off for 11 years the backyard
brawl was missed by college football fans and football fans
and just sporting fans alike for 11 years.
The fact that the world wasn't able to see that game,
which is always like that, by the way.
I guess there's a couple been blowouts in the history,
but if you go back through it, there is always electricity in the air.
The fan bases don't like each other.
Pitt showed up last night, believe me.
Hey, congrats to the University of Pittsburgh student section and fans and alumni who are insufferable.
Okay?
Of course.
Fucking insufferable.
But congrats to all of them for showing up.
That might be the last time Accresher Field Stadium looks that way for a Pitt game this season.
Honestly, it is not something that sells
out all the time. It's off of campus. It's not easy to get to for the University of Pittsburgh.
And there was reports last night that West or yesterday that West Virginia was going to fill
up that entire fucking stadium. They did not. Pitt showed up. That was amazing to watch. I didn't
know any of the players on our team. Okay. I knew JT Daniels was going to be guy. I knew leg was
kicking. I didn't know there was still a Sills on the team on the D-line. That's awesome. He's a guy. But I learned about
a lot of players last night. C.J. Donaldson Jr., Bryce Ford Wheaton, who ultimately is going to
have a rough couple days and he's going to be questioned about that for a long, long time.
This West Virginia team didn't have high expectations going into the season, I don't
think. But we got a lot of young guys. We got a fast team. We got This West Virginia team didn't have high expectations going into the season, I don't think.
But we got a lot of young guys.
We got a fast team.
We got an electrifying team.
And JT Daniels seems to be a dog.
I like the West Virginia team,
although it stinks that they lost.
Pitt got a great win.
West Virginia, I think, showed up and made me a lot more happier about where the team is.
And then Penn State-Purdue
was all the way down to the final drive.
It was a magical night for college football last
night. The toxic tables here at Ty Schmidt
at Boston Connor. One half of the hammer.
Done. Cowboys 10.
Diggs is here. Our Superboost hit. We're undefeated
on the season.
Is that good tone? I don't know. You tell
me, pal. It's really good. I said, even if you don't
like West Virginia, it's good value.
7.5. It's a key
number. It's a very, very key number. So I'm going to start doing, yeah, 6.5 much different than 7.5. It's a key number. It's a very, very key number.
So I'm going to start doing 6.5 much
different than 7.5. 2.5 much different
than 3.5. These are all numbers that you have to look
at. So whenever it goes to 7.5, you have
to like it in a rivalry game where the jitters are probably
going to be there.
The jitters are probably going to be there.
It was a rivalry game. The over
hit, which I don't think I expected. I thought it was going to be
a lower game. But what a fucking night for college football.
What a day for us.
Yeah.
Because we are being joined once again by a friend of the program.
In an unprecedented fashion, this man came onto our show weekly
throughout an entire NFL season.
First time won an MVP.
That's right. We ran it back for a second time we won an mvp again holy shit this man really wasn't known by the masses
before this whole thing started and by the touch and the blessing of the football gods we got to
hear his brain spill out through two fucking seasons on this show.
Somehow, someway, I think mostly because of our friendship with Aaron James Hawk,
who is friends with him from their time playing together,
we were lucky to have these fucking convos.
Now, these convos led to some interesting situations.
Big time.
These convos took us to places none of us could have expected,
but these convos enlightened us on a human that is one of one,
a fucking anomaly.
And he is rejoining the show after a lot has happened.
Conversations from his big old brain with numerous people have obviously sparked conversation and fodder around the entire Internet about what's going on in the world, not just the football world.
We are lucky to be rejoined once again, ladies and gentlemen, by the back-to-back NFL MVP,
Mr. Aaron Rodgers.
You look good, dude.
You look good, dude.
Hey, you look amazing. You look like you're in great shape.
Look like you feel good about life. How is
everything over there, man?
It's not as good
as it was in Omaha.
That was some fun. The boys everything over there, man. It's not as good as Tahoe.
That was some fun.
The boys that missed out on that, man, they missed out.
I agree, and we're kind of rubbing it in Ty Schmidt's face right now because Ty couldn't come because, you know, hey, baby.
Of course he died last time.
And a baby.
Tahoe was a blast.
Thank you for that.
Is that what it's like every single year out there in the middle of just
the most beautiful place on earth that I had no idea existed for our group yeah it usually is like that
what does that mean what are you talking about for us you know for those of us that stayed at
the house that's that's what it's all about right there yeah we missed every event i was
we had a good first round too yes we did hey you were fucking playing top 10 in the end of that thing
it was a great round i i'm scared to death of putting but i mean i don't know if and walking
i mean what was it seven miles a day or something like that i i have no and that was a lot i did
not expect it to be that tough aaron honestly well you weren't even carrying the bag i mean
let's give some kudos out to to connor you actually did the grill work the light bag well excuse me hey that guy's
a dog hey dog big bag big straps and it'll we didn't empty anything out of it either so if it
ended up in there it was staying for the entire thing oh yeah i mean we didn't have a full champagne
bottle like aj did to his brother one year or whatever but it was loaded in there connor you're
the man aaron as are you thank you for the hospitality out there, and let's start chatting about life a little bit since then.
You've done some interviews.
You've said some things.
The entire world has reacted.
Have you heard any of this?
Have you had your blinders on away from it?
Have you, with training camp taking place and building a team,
have you got to experience what you have started outside of the football world?
It's big, Aaron.
It's fucking big.
It's real life stuff.
I'm just hanging out in the light.
You see this?
I'm just enjoying the opportunity.
It's been some fun conversations.
Now, you know, I've been on a couple podcasts and said things, everything I stand behind.
Not a lot of questions from our local media about any of it.
I haven't been asked one time about anything I said on, I mean, they rarely ask me about stuff I say on your show.
After you scoop them.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Good journalism, good journalism.
Yeah, but they haven't done any follow-ups.
But there has been a lot of articles written,
and what it's done is it's sparked some incredible conversations for me
with teammates, with people that work at the facility, coaches,
players from other teams that reached out.
I had a great conversation with some of the Saints guys
about some of the stuff that I said on Aubrey's podcast,
guys from the Chiefs who went to Kansas City.
You know, just a really interesting conversation that I'm really happy
I had the opportunity to talk about my experiences and what it meant for me
and what those journeys did for me and my mental clarity and my overall
happiness and life and then getting to talk to joe uh you know dr joe was uh was a lot of fun as well
um that was you know kind of a year in the making after everything that happened last fall and um
obviously you know some of the guests that he had on his podcast was, you know, definitely stirring some shit up across the country.
And then to go on his show and to kind of talk about what it was like last year was really cool.
But a lot of stuff that we talked about every single week, you know, I came on your show, especially after I got COVID and then, you know, subsequently COVID-toe.
And there was a lot to talk about.
Yeah, I mean, there was a lot of stuff through the last season that we were lucky to be a part of.
But I think the reason why, and also your own busting with the boys, you crushed it on there.
Shout out to Will and the entire squad.
But I think, like, the reason why it gets so big, Rogan has like, I think 12 or 13 million
downloads allegedly.
I mean, who knows what fairytale numbers he has that downloads every single show because
everything that he says is heard by everybody on earth.
So whenever you say change some things in a country, like there was some world policy
being changed, I think due to some of Rogan's podcast that took place.
And I think all those conversations are vital though.
Like, honestly, I believe, don't you think, and I think that's why this show is the way it is.
And when I was getting attacked for giving you a platform to speak, it's like, we're getting a
chance to hear like how fucking Aaron Rogers feels. This is a obviously back-to-back MVP.
Now at this point, like, don't you think conversation is maybe one of the most powerful
things of all time? Whenever we were out of Tahoe and we got to chat, it was really cool watching you.
Because I think a lot of people think that you're just this, oh, I know everything asshole.
And that was not the case at all.
Whenever I got a chance to have some, like, real convos with you out of Tahoe,
I think evolving through it all and then you, you know, partially being correct.
I assume these convos with Rogan, which is from outside the football world,
I don't want to say, did it feel like legitimacy or did you feel like,
was there like, you know, I feel good about this
because of how you felt the entire time?
Or what was it like, you know, going through that whole process
with the world hearing you almost for the first time?
Well, it was great.
And I say it again, you know, we have two ears and one mouth for a reason.
Oh.
So often with social media, and we're all guilty of it, we speak twice as often as we
listen.
And in order to come together as a country and come together as people and connect, you
have to listen to other people's opinions, and a lot of times opinions that you don't agree with.
Because the only way to test your own belief system
and to have it ingrained at a deeper cellular level
is to have it challenged, right?
Not to live in an echo chamber where you're repeating the same things
and hearing the same things and locking in the same algorithms that give you the same opinion
and belief over and over and over and over again.
That's how division happens because there's absolutely zero room
for people to connect and at least just listen to what you have to say.
At the end of the conversation, it could be,
well, I respectfully disagree with that.
Awesome.
But at least you listen to it.
But not even having an open mind is the, in my opinion, is the ability to take your brain to a place where you can
imagine what it would be like for what that person is saying that you don't agree with to be true.
In what world, in a world where that is possibly true, how can I take my mind to that place and sit with that reality?
And I think it's an important lesson to learn or skill to practice is to listen to understand, not to listen to respond.
And I was really thankful for Joe and for Aubrey for the opportunity to go on those two.
Because the other ones are fun.
You know, I did Bust One of the Boys and PFT and some other things.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
But those are much shorter.
You know, I've sat with Aubrey for over two and a half hours and Joe was over three hours.
And both of those deeply meaningful to me.
Aubrey and I's friendship is really deep and special.
And, you know, the connection we have is pretty obvious when you watch that one. And then Joe and I, Joe was important for me. I reached out to Joe at the
beginning of the pandemic, uh, and asked him, as I asked a number of other people who had COVID,
you know, what did you do to, to come back from COVID and what, uh, research did you do? What
medicine did you use and how did it make you feel?
And how quickly were you back?
Because I thought, hey, at some point I might get COVID and I need to be ready for it.
So I talked to him and a number of other people.
And a lot of the people were saying the same things to use.
And then I got COVID and obviously my world changed just a little bit.
Mine did too.
I mean, obviously, my world changed just a little bit.
Mine did, too.
But Joe was very supportive, and it was fun to be able to go back on a show and kind of close the loop on COVID, you know, before, I guess, the world is ready to.
But Joe said something I thought was really, really interesting that, you know,
if you didn't hear it, I wanted to share it.
But he was talking about responding to neil young and neil young was wanting to take his
music off of spotify because you know joe is this purveyor of misinformation and and you know
dangerously killing people i believe is the yeah and and he said and and Joe said, you know, the things that are conspiracy today or and information that's not censored.
A lot of the things that we talked about last year, that Dr. Malone talked about,
that Dr. McCullough talked about, that Alex Berenson talked about,
that a number of people talked about on joe's show turned out to be true
and that's the danger in canceling people for opinions or being so plugged into a mainstream
narrative that you're just literally regurgitating information that you know let's just be honest
there's people who have a financial interest in the narrative
being a certain way wow and a lot of us were caught up in that me directly you and your
your guys and i love you guys and i'm so thankful for this platform to speak on it but we all got
caught up in it love you we love you too but there's a lot we're gonna roast it and hopefully
you know through what i talked about with some of the ridiculous nfl policies last year
and the discrimination hopefully we are shining some light and and furthering a conversation about
how not to do what we did ever again yeah can't let that thing repeat obviously as studies continue to come out more
information is released i think there's going to be a lot of clarity on what we just experienced
for an actual unprecedented two years of just shutting down the world and you know that i think
the cool part about your conversation with old rogan because you two were you know the i mean
you were the mvp of the nfl talking about it rogan had the has the biggest
show on earth talking about it and you two kind of free thinkers obviously open-minded people
and also going against what is being pitched by the government and the people on the tv that you're
being forced to watch basically every single day so you two took big shots so i think you two coming
together for a show to talk about it was brilliant
awesome and one of the best parts about it i thought was when you were reminding people what
was actually being said at the time because that is something that we've talked about where
will we ever find out why and how this happened or will we never talk about this again because
it's easy for something to be forgotten about if it's never chatted about they say only the bangers survive in like art or music or anything only the good shit survives because
only the good shit is anything that people either continue to play or continue to talk about all the
bad shit drifts away there's so much stuff that's forgotten and never chatted about if it's not a
focal point of conversation by the masses so i think you reminding how shit actually went. And I think
the reason why you remember all these things is because each one of these times these things were
said, you were taking more shots, as was Rogan. So like, I think, I think that was a big part of
that whole conversation as well as we move forward. Mr. Rogers. Yeah, you bring up a great point. And
I said it on Rogan. I said, let's not revise history. Let's remember what was said, what was said, what was pushed. And that was in the beginning, you get the shot and you won't get COVID and you can't transmit COVID, which we know was either an out and out lie intentionally or a statement that never should have been said and then should have been revised. Misinformation. It was 100% misinformation.
But those people who were saying those things weren't getting censored or taken off of Twitter, deplatformed.
But other people on the other side who were experts, you know,
had posts flagged, had their accounts suspended,
taken off of social media.
That's the danger.
Free speech is not dangerous.
Censored speech is dangerous when the course of human history has any government ever protected its citizens
by restricting speech you can't you can't give me an example it's not possible you cannot give me
of that ever happening hey i'm on your side here 100 what you're saying i love free speech love
conversation love people learning about stuff
Because I'm from Pittsburgh, I've gotten to meet people from all over the world
And all over the country
And believe it or not, people have different views
Because of how they came up, what their life is, what they've experienced
It's just natural to have those conversations
And open conversation, free speech needs to happen
Even with the assholes, hey, we need assholes to be out there
So we know what not to be, too
I think that is a big part of the world right now where we get.
Do you have a bug zapper in the back of your room there that you're chatting?
Is that what you're giving a great answer?
Passionate answer.
I don't want to interrupt, but it sounded like 45 bugs were just getting slaughtered in the back at the same time.
Cut that.
Let's re-ask the question.
No, no.
All good.
Damn coffee machine.
It does go to this
clean process.
Sounded like French press.
It does sound.
15 minutes after it's,
you know,
done,
you know,
pumping out coffee.
So I had to
slap a couple cops
while I was ready
to rock and roll
this morning
and get that jaw
and just keep on punching,
man.
Boom,
boom,
boom,
you know,
get the tank top on
and really come
and have a conversation.
Yeah,
I wanted to make you feel as comfortable as possible because I missed you.
You know, I've been talking to all these other people.
And some people I really like and some people just fun conversations.
But, you know, like this is my home here.
Come on.
Hell yeah.
Come on.
I just wanted to make you.
I didn't have a for the brand shirt.
I have this other shirt that, you know, that was gifted to me that I think you're really going to like.
But I said, what do I want to wear today to make Pat feel the love that I feel for him?
Yeah.
Black tank, bro.
Man, you know what they say.
What do they say?
Imitation is the greatest form of flattery.
That's right.
Lou Holtz just said that to Ty.
Aaron, I don't know if you saw that.
Ty was Lou Holtz for a little bit talking about the Brian Kelly situation.
Lou Holtz for a little bit talking about the Brian Kelly situation. Lou Holtz saw it.
His foundation quote tweeted it and said, save the expletives.
That's exactly how I feel.
So I would like to let you know I am incredibly flattered.
And we are very thankful that you're back here having a conversation with us.
And we've enjoyed listening to you chat.
Listen, it is awesome hearing you kind of, I don't want to say introduce yourself to
people, but you are. A lot of people knew fucking nothing about you. And although our show does
alarmingly good, alarmingly, surprisingly, shockingly well, and it will end at some point,
there's a lot of people that never listened to this fucking show that still think the same way
about Aaron Rodgers as they had maybe before Aaron Rodgers Tuesday started two seasons ago. So whenever you host Jeopardy and you do all this
shit and you go, anytime I think you get a chance to showcase your fucking hilariously large brain
and deep thinking ass, hippie ass, I think it is awesome. Like I enjoy it so much. We love that
you're back though. And we've, we have a lot to catch up on.
How do you feel about football?
You feel good about football?
How's training camp been?
Obviously, with all the conversation, changing the world, reminding people of stuff,
you got fucking football happening right now.
How's that?
Everything, life is good, huh?
Yeah, life is great, man.
I got Tom Clements back in the room.
We're having a blast.
He's a Pittsburgh guy, you know.
He might not be a West Virginia guy, but he's a Pittsburgh guy.
So you know he's
gritty. Yeah.
Which, by the way, West Virginia should have won
that game last night. Yeah, Aaron!
I mean, they had a completion
there that would have put them, you know,
getting close to field goal range.
Guy runs it back for a pick six.
That guy had a great game.
Did you see that? Had a fucking tackle on punt.
Two touchdowns.
Yeah, well, it was a shoulder tackle.
He tackled.
He just had big arms.
You know, that wasn't illegal at all.
And then we had a catch to end the game.
They called it incomplete.
Obviously, they overturned that.
There was a couple targeting.
The refs didn't want us to win.
Okay?
The refs didn't want West Virginia to win.
But I thought it was a fucking beautiful game.
Do you watch a lot of college football?
Last night's environment got me feeling like, oh, football's back.
Like last night made that happen to me.
Look, I'll be honest.
I only stumbled upon the game because I was looking for Serena and Venus playing doubles.
I can understand.
I understand.
They lost.
I've got ESPN, but it was on esbn uh the old show i think so
so on esbn was pitt in uh west virginia which i have a connection to uh old quarterback coach
frank signetti is coaching uh at pitt and graham harrell the legend oh yeah legend
offense coordinator at West Virginia.
So I definitely had some rooting interest going on there. And obviously, you know, Pat, my affection for you.
I can't deny it.
I was pulling for the Mountaineers.
But, you know, almost went some.
Yeah.
Well, the only person I knew on the team was fucking Graham Harrell.
So, you know, after last night, I thought the team played great.
Like, I'm actually excited to be a West Virginia fan this year.
They looked fast.
They had some situations where I was like, oh, this is a good football team.
Because in years past, you watch and go, oh,
this is a JV football team playing against other colleges.
So I think Graham Harrell's impact has already been felt.
And, you know, after those conversations about him out at Tahoe, can't help but pull for fucking Graham Harrell's impact has already been felt. And, you know, after those conversations about him out at Tahoe,
can't help but pull for fucking Graham Harrell to have success.
Honestly, cannot help, especially those Fridays that he would have.
All those Fridays where he would be committed, you know, to the team so much.
Give him back.
Give him back to the community.
I mean, that is a guy that we fucking want to have in West Virginia for a long time.
Let's talk about the Green Bay Packers, Aaron.
Let's do it.
Yeah, go ahead.
You sore?
No soreness?
I know you're tripping balls in ayahuasca like, what, two months ago, three months ago?
And now you're doing training camp?
There's other guys that, what, they just train all day, every day.
They drink water.
All they do is eat.
You're out here tripping your face off okay and
then you show up at training camp and win the mvp are you feeling good body feeling good i feel great
i feel i feel great i you know it is fun having tom back tom makes uh makes that room uh so much
fun we just have such a great rapport we have years and years of memories and most of them was
when i was a younger
player you know although he left i think in 20 up to the 2016 season so it wasn't that long ago but
he was my direct quarterback coach in the room from 2006 through 2011 and a lot of fun fun memories
together so having him back has been great uh obviously jordan and i get along really well and
have a great time and been fun to watch him continue to develop. Everyone honed his fundamentals throughout
training camp. Danny Etling in the room as well, who's a breed option
samurai. He's the
man. It's a really fun quarterback room. Connor Lewis, a long
time good friend, Swiss Army knife
coach. He did analytics in the beginning, and then he was in the quarterback room,
and then he was out of the quarterback room doing special teams.
Now he's back in the quarterback room, brilliant guy, and a lot of fun to be around.
So I love the quarterback room the way it is right now.
That kind of sets the tone for the entire day at work.
And then the team, you know, it's a young team, and there's a lot of fun with that.
There's a lot of young energy and excitement with the guys you know look at i think we have 21 new guys as opposed
to last year which i don't know if that i don't know what the exact number is that seems to be a
little bit maybe above the uh the mean uh but i really enjoy uh coming to work with these guys
and the challenge of uh you know reconnecting and and raising up leadership with these guys and the challenge of reconnecting and raising up leadership
and empowering guys and connecting with guys.
I will say the thing that has been most fun out of anything, and I was really hoping for
this, especially over the last couple of years, is a return to normal.
And what I mean by that is not a new norm.
Not a new normal.
No!
No!
I'm talking about a return to normal meaning
you know especially for us non-vax guys who you know went through hell last year uh being able to
little things like being able to go to dinner on the road in san fran pre-season being able to have
an o-line dinner in kansas city with about 20 of us and prank the young lineman with a $25,000 bill,
which was 10 times above what it actually was, I think. And having the opportunity to do those
type of things, having a team party like we had a few days ago, that's what I missed. I missed
those connection times. And something is silly and stupid. I don't even know why they did this, but the tables are back in the locker room.
Now, this means nothing unless you kind of understand the locker room.
But the locker room is shaped like an oval, right?
And everybody's facing each other.
That was a Mike Sherman design so that, you know, there's no right angles in the locker room.
So we're all kind of facing inward, right?
Well, they've always had these tables in the locker room so we're all kind of facing inward right well they also they've always had these tables in the locker room and on the tables is that's the hangout you know
for the last couple years everybody's been sitting their ass in the locker and when you sit in your
locker all you're doing is looking at your device right now we got these tables finally back and
they have these little round chairs and now every single day in training camp, you walk into the locker room from the cafeteria
or from the equipment room or whatever, and guys are hanging out.
Guys are playing cards.
Guys are playing dominoes.
Guys are playing, you know, whatever game it might be, spades.
Guys are playing euchre.
Guys are playing.
Boo-ray over there?
Boo-ray, yeah.
I mean, guys are hanging out, you know, and that's talk, you know.
And that's what I love to see.
I love to see the opportunity for those connection points.
And that's what's exciting is the return to the old norm, right?
Not this, you know, not a new norm.
An old norm where guys hang out and enjoy each other and spend time together.
I love that.
And that's been probably the most fun part of camp i just love how much like fuck you you
still have for that hole you know what i mean like yeah they're not that new norm okay not the things
that people were telling me that i'm gonna have to prepare myself for i'm talking about what life
was like before uncle 19 came through and literally hit us all with a train of fucking
misery and conflict and chaos and ultimately a lot of fear and i think that is hopefully
subsiding a little bit as we move forward but that locker room sounds amazing that's what
that's the part that everybody misses when they retire you know that's what everybody's talking
about and it sounds like for the last two years, these young guys, especially with how good of the fucking teams you had, didn't have a,
that's a massive part of team building. I think, you know, like I walk into that team,
let's say you guys need to punter. I do not have this show. I'm not successful. I'm working out.
I'm punting. I walk into one of those tables. I sit down, I get down to 50 firsthand to talk.
And I turned that thing over. My relationship with everybody in that building is going to be
much different than if I have to go sit in my locker and not chat with anybody.
That happens not just with my position, but everybody. That's huge, Aaron. I think that's
a big fucking deal. Has to make life similar. You enjoying it a lot more now, I would assume, yes?
I've been enjoying it since I did ayahuasca. So the last few years have been great.
Hold on.
Okay, okay.
Let's dive into that.
Let me finish my answer, bro.
No, no.
Let me talk about the –
Oh, no, no.
Yeah, you're right.
Loving football.
Loving football.
Go ahead.
No, then we'll talk ayahuasca because I got a lot of questions.
I got a lot of questions.
You're loving football, though, since ayahuasca.
Why?
New mindset?
New vision on things?
New look at things?
Well, how come?
Yeah. Mental health, bro, it starts with self-love.
And when you increase that, then you're able to pass that on more easily.
And listen, the locker room is where the chemistry takes place.
Like there's a lot of great things that happen on the practice field
and obviously in the game and outside the facility is fun and dinners and different things but the
locker room is that's the core of that connection right that's where the inside jokes happen
that's where you know the you know the pranks happen and the and the connection and the
conversation and you got dudes you, freestyle rapping in one corner.
You got guys playing spades in the other corner.
You got me and Dave scheming prank plots in the other corner.
And you got, you know, and you got the random specialist in the other corner,
you know, talking about, you know, Joseph Smith or whatever.
So there's a lot, you know, there's a lot of stuff going on in that locker room.
I'm not talking about any gold plates.
That's where the, you know. That's where the connections happen.
I mentioned Joseph Smith not as a slight to the LDS at all,
but I did make a joke with our new punter, Pat O'Donnell. He showed up to the plane, and I said,
are you on your mission?
Because he looked like a D know like a mormon
uh you know door-to-door mormon guy yeah show up on a bike yeah yeah and then that's got a great
sense of humor what did he do pat punters you know this has got to be something about pat and
punters right respect i got back to my locker one day and there's a book of mormon in my locker yes
i like this pat's a good dude sounds like
pat's a good dude i like that and i open it up and this is where like he really understood you
know me and my sense of humor and my intellect and and i got a glimpse of his he had i opened
it up and i was looking through and i was like you know there's like highlights and underlines and like pan marks in there.
And I was thinking, did he go find this at like a secondhand, you know, bookstore and put it in my locker?
No.
In fact, he had taken time and gone through because he knew of my, you know, he knew how detailed I am
and that I would probably look through it and try and find some clues in there.
He had gone through it and highlighted and underlined and written in pen stuff to make it seem like this was like a used Book of Mormon.
So it was a multi-layered joke there, and I appreciate it.
And then Dalton.
He read a Bible to have a follow-up joke for you.
That's awesome.
That is – I love this guy.
Hope he punts well there for a long time.
He's got a great leg.
And he's – you know what?
He's a really well-groomed punter.
He always comes in.
That hair is on point.
The eyebrows are on point.
The facial hair is on point.
You know, between him and mason there's not
a lot of hair gel left in the city i see what you did there your hair looks great too right now
wow hey thank you yeah it's it's you know have you been you never know have you been growing
that hair since ayahuasca yes oh good transition pat thank you so what the fuck happened with that you know and how
did you end up dabbling with it because i feel like that's a massive decision you and i chatted
about a little bit of tahoe i've obviously encountered humans in the past that have done
the ayahuasca and the other potential hallucinogens or whatever the title is that's big deal that's
like a you're going there thinking
that you're going to transform right isn't that kind of what happened everybody that i've talked
to before going after going different people afterwards and it's all every time every person
i've talked to has been for the good let's assume just because we don't want to paint a broad brush
some people have had a bad one or whatever but it's a transformative decision you have to make
right to go take that and it seems like football wise it's worked one or whatever, but it's a transformative decision you have to make, right?
To go take that.
And it seems like football wise, it's worked with you hair wise,
obviously it's, yeah, it's worked incredibly well,
but what that was a transformative decision that you decide to go do that.
And did you know it was going to change you forever?
I mean, I hoped for sure.
I mean,
I don't think you can ever know for certain when you're dealing with a
master plant teachers, but, uh, what's that? I want to ask her certain when you're dealing with master plant teachers.
What's that?
Ayahuasca.
It's a master plant teacher.
That's what I'm saying. Oh, you're talking about the plant itself.
Yeah, I think there's some master plant teachers from Ayahuasca and Huachuma, peyote.
I haven't done those other ones ones but there's just many plant teachers
that that people have been using for thousands and thousands of years there's churches set up
across the country that serve some of these medicines and have deep and meaningful experiences
for me it just came down to uh you know a high school best friend and i having a round of golf
and talking about his recent ayahuasca experience. You met him, Jordan.
Oh, yeah.
And inspired me to do it because I was searching for a deeper level of self-love
and went down to Machu Picchu in Peru and had magical experiences there in Peru,
in the Sacred Valley, and then had a couple of really interesting nights on the medicine
and came back a changed person.
Wanted to leave myself open to doing that again in a different setting,
in a different place, with a different group,
and ended up doing that again this off-season
and had an absolutely beautiful experience.
Sat for more nights this time, three, and two the first time, three the second time.
And had a really difficult night one, beautiful night two, and then kind of a mixed bag night three,
with a really beautiful kind of conclusion to the ceremony.
And, you know, it changes the way you look at the world.
You feel way more connected, and it starts with a self-love. conclusion to the ceremony and uh you know just it changes the way you look at the world you feel
way more connected and it starts with a self-love and when you have that unconditional love for
yourself it's way easier to then transfer that to the people that matter in your life and honestly
the people that don't matter so that i can you know say with with honesty to my detractors and
haters and whoever it is like i don't have bitterness towards you.
I don't have animosity.
I have nothing but love and appreciation for where you're at in your life, on your life
path and all the different emotions that impact our personality and our decision making and
in our belief system on a daily basis.
It allows me to relate to my teammates better, to relate to the coaches better, to relate
to my close friends and loved ones better.
And really most importantly, out of all of it, it's not selfish, but to relate to myself.
And then to shed self-judgment and all the projections that I put on myself, to really
shed those and to find a deep and transformative self-love for everything that I am
and everything that I'm not and then go out in the world
and try and love people in the same way.
Do you think that you were fighting who you were for a long time
because you're this hippie brainiac who is, like,
the best player to ever play the most meathead sport of all time?
Do you think you were just kind of confused?
That's why you were trying to find and figure out who you were with ayahuasca the first trip?
Or what do you think it is?
What do you think it was that made you appreciate yourself and, you know,
understand who you are more?
Because it felt like you being yourself more is probably how
everything kind of changed for you in a positive way.
What do you think it was?
I think we're all products in some sense of our
uh upbringing you know there's a lot of conditioning that goes on um and a lot of uh
patterns that are formed uh many just naturally as you acquire them from your parents or
siblings or surroundings or environment some of them are based on survival and i'm not talking
about life or death some for some people yes yes, life or death, but more just surviving the day and surviving the emotions that come up.
And for me, a lot of the things that I learned or patterned were very self-critical.
And on my end, I do appreciate it because that self-criticism drove me to be the best and to not be satisfied with where I was at, to not be complacent, to not
make decisions that would adversely affect my future in a negative way.
And so I'm thankful for that.
But there comes a time where shame and guilt and self-rejection and self-rejection and
self-criticism can get in the way of the true connection to yourself that allows you to love
yourself better and then to allow others to love you as well in a deeper and more meaningful way.
So that's really what I went down to Peru looking for and hoping for was just a greater self-love
and an understanding of what that means on a deep cellular level, and shedding some of the shame and guilt and conditioning that I learned as a child.
And again, this is not a projection onto my family life or the environment I grew up in.
It's just what became the reality to me and how I kind of maneuvered in my world as a 5-year-old,
as a 10-year-old, as a 15-year-old, as a 15-year-old, as a 20-year-old.
And it was through a lot of self-judgment, not feeling good enough or lovable or whatever it might be.
And so the goal was to really shed those things and to find a deeper self-love.
And with the hopes and the ideas that a deeper self-love would lead to more contentment
and peace which would lead to a more clear mind which would lead to being a better leader and a
better player and having the success in the field that i knew i was still capable of doing seems
like you fucking found it buddy oh yeah congratulations made the right decision
gotta feel pretty good well listen. Listen, the work continues.
It's constantly trying to evolve
and adapt.
What do you got there?
A 700-page book that you said
people should read with your book.
You didn't read it.
Is that Fingerprints of the Gods?
Yeah.
Look, I mean, that's what it's all about.
It's about leveling up for
you it might not be that for you it might be starting with the boy the mole the the horse
and the fox right i said that in the wrong order but yeah or the trebek the answer is yeah you know
what i mean right but or the my friend hey but i think i think we saw some of you continuing to work on yourself through this book club.
Don't you think? Yeah, I think we all did.
Yes, I think so.
I think it was cool that you were doing that.
And I was like in my while you're stating these books, I'm a goddamn.
This feels like literally books.
He's currently going through right now as you're going through an entire process.
It's been books I read in the last couple of years years for sure yeah well i want to let you know it's been an honor to be a part of this entire
aaron rogers appreciates what the fuck aaron rogers is for the first time in his entire life
uh era here it's been very cool it's been very nice i think we should make an announcement right
now don't you yeah i think we should. All right.
You want to say it?
We didn't rehearse.
I want you to say it.
In an unprecedented move. What?
For the third consecutive season.
What?
What?
Conversations that rattled the sports globe. What? What? What? Conversations that rattled the sports globe.
What?
What?
What?
Emotions that were high, low, and all the emotions in between.
What?
What?
Yeah, I didn't know how I was going to get that many what's in there.
Anyways, Aaron Rodgers Tuesday is back for season three.
Let's go!
Yes!
Yes! Yes! Hey, this thing has been a full... Hey, we're talking, right? Anyways, Aaron Rodgers Tuesday is back for season three. Let's go! Let's go!
Hey, this thing has been a full...
Hey, we're talking, right?
I mean, it's been all over the place.
Not feeling low, but the reaction to some episodes were rather negative, negative, negative, negative.
And then you know what you would do that next week?
You'd go throw for fucking four touchdowns, two incompletions,
and then we'd go back and have the whole conversation.
It's been an honor to ride the wave of a season two times in a row
alongside of you and for it to become the third.
This is awesome.
You're awesome, and we appreciate the fucking hell out of you, Eric.
Listen, Pat, get your Speedo on.
Get your longboard out because this is a long ride that we're jumping on here.
Yeah.
We're going to ride this thing all the way down.
Nah, I'm not hopping up there.
We're going to do this whole thing.
I can't thank you enough.
I know Ty has some questions for you.
Is that okay?
Yeah, come on.
Hey, let's have a fucking season three of NRT.
Hell yeah.
Let's go.
We're back, bro.
You know, I know we're in the middle of self-love,
no pressure, no animosity, no bitterness,
but you don't win an MVP this year, I'm going to be so pissed.
Yeah, you're not.
You know, because we have a streak, you know what I mean?
I mean, we'll bring everything we can.
We're just, like, the fact that you've won the MVP both years that we've done this has been hilarious.
And when we look back on it, we'll say, what a fucking joke this life has been.
But it's been really cool.
This is a whole new team you're working with.
It's going to be a whole new season. Let go dude huh let's go i just just need a couple people
counting us out that's all we need and i think they're already out there aaron there's a lot
of them pal i want to let you know that this one isn't a guy though ty schmidt your question no
absolutely not aaron great to see you it's been a while you look great your hair looks great you look physically fit um hope you enjoyed your summer i think you did um a lot
of people were talking about you know the comments you made with the receivers kind of needing to
pick up their play and get ready because once the season starts you know we don't really have a
choice have you found yourself in like a more active coaching role almost with those
guys? And do you feel like they've come along to the point?
Like you expected them to be at this point,
right on the precipice of the season?
Well, again, Ty, great question. Yeah. Thank you.
Misty and Tao. But I think as you get older,
you have to step into that more of a coaching role.
And I love those opportunities.
You know, I think it's important any time that I'm speaking up in a meeting that those guys take notes because I'm not just speaking for my health.
I'm usually dropping some things that may come up at some point during the year.
And I think it's important that everybody's dialed in on the same page and paying attention.
And I will say those young guys really have come along.
Now, we've got to get Samari, you know, a little bit more focused.
But he is very, very talented.
I'm starting with him, our sub-grant pick, Samar Ture.
And I thought he had a really nice camp and did some great things
and improved his last game.
I mean, he had like six catches for 80 yards
and and kind of basically won his spot on the last game and i give him a lot of credit um but the
other two guys i think can really make an immediate impact for us talking about romeo dobbs and
christian watson it was good having christian back at practice he missed a lot of practice
and during that time what was going on romeo was getting a ton of love right he was getting a lot of practice. And during that time, what was going on? Romeo was getting a ton of love, right? He was getting a lot of pub.
He was making plays in practice.
He was making plays in games.
The thing I like about Rome's that I saw right away was that he's a humble kid.
And with that humility comes a really good perspective that I haven't done shit yet.
that I haven't done shit yet.
And so I'm going to make sure I'm improving every single day because it's one thing to do it in the preseason.
It's another thing to do it in the regular season.
And I really like his approach and his work ethic.
And overall, he's just a great kid.
He really is.
And excited to have him out there.
Christian missed a lot of time with
his knee injury and then he gets on the field the first couple days and you're thinking who is this
nine right here i mean he is big i might need to change dave's uh you know dave
bakhtiari's nickname because this kid might be the the new baby giraffe i mean he's
he's maybe more like a deer because he's out there just prancing
around and flying around on the field. I mean, this dude's got incredible stride length and
really, for a man who's 6'5", like his speed is legit. So it was nice having him. He's a different
type of receiver than we've had. That guy, a guy that big with that type of stride length and that
speed. So again, we're going to temper expectations for sure.
And I did say earlier in camp, you know,
Romeo might be held to a different standard than a normal rookie.
But we still need to temper expectations of those guys.
They are rookies, but I am impressed with all three of those guys.
And, you know, I think it's going to be interesting to see how it all shakes out. But we're going to
need those guys to step up and play well when they get a chance. When it comes to holding those guys
accountable, that's what we do. They ask me a question about receivers. They have a shit day.
I'm going to tell them they had a shit day. They have a week where they don't play good.
I'm going to talk about it. But we're also going to love each other up and hold each other
accountable and pat each other on the ass when we're making good plays
and get serious when we need to have better performance.
But I like the approach from those guys.
Christian asked a lot of questions.
So has Romeo.
A lot of questions.
And their goal is improvement and getting on the same page.
And when you pair that with the veterans that we got, which I'll tell you what,
Sammy Watkins and Randall Cobb have practiced as good as I've seen
receivers practice in the last few weeks.
Haven't heard about it at all.
Haven't heard about it at all.
In a long time.
So we really have those guys.
And obviously I love Allen and trust him a lot.
So I like the group that we got.
We get the big draft back and big, sexy Elton Jenkins.
You know, we should be in a good place offensively.
All right, we got baby draft, big, sexy, big draft.
I mean, this offense sounds like quite a phenomenon of people.
Let's assume.
We got the mayor.
The mayor.
A.J. Dillon, the mayor.
Oh, yeah.
Of all of Wisconsin?. The mayor. A.J. Dillon, the mayor. Oh, yeah. Door County.
Of all of Wisconsin?
Mostly Door County.
Okay.
He's shaking a lot of hands.
He's got those quads.
He's, hey, I'm a big, I'm a grown.
He ran over that mascot.
You talked to him about killing that mascot?
Did you see that?
Didn't feel bad.
Hey, you got to do what you got to do.
That guy signed up for a fucking one-on-one with A.J. Dillon.
You got the ball or not, pal? I guess that's what you gotta do that guy signed up for a fucking one-on-one with aj dylan you got the ball or not pal i guess that's what you said to him i mean it's like would you really get run
over by aj dylan or a roundhouse from chuck norris i don't know not sure that could be c huh all of
the above um what do you think is because let's assume that these guys are watching this right
just like every coach's press conference that has said the players
all hear exactly what is said about the players because of that same thing with you especially
with rookies that are going to have to do business with you that are wide receivers you said let's
temper expectations they're still rookies even though we're going to hold them to a higher
standard because they're going to have to perform more what are some things that they're going to
encounter you think that are like just hiccups like have you talked to them about that like
there's going to become a coverage a human like what do you think is going to be the issue with the young
wide receiver in your timing or maybe you're having ultimate success early speed that's it
that it really is it um and also i believe it's uh this is a double entendre here. Star in Speed.
Who was the main star in the movie Speed, do you remember?
Keanu.
And whose birthday is it today?
Well, happy birthday, Aaron.
Yeah.
Keanu's birthday.
Oh, okay.
Happy birthday, Keanu Reeves, dude.
Happy birthday. Happy birthday, Mr. Wick. Appreciate you, dude. birthday oh okay happy birthday mr wick appreciate you dude uh greatest actor of a generation but
to return to your answer it is speed so i don't mean the necessarily the speed of the game because
obviously it gets a little faster from regular season to from preseason regular season, from preseason to regular season, but the speed at which your brain must operate
and still be able to leave room for reaction. So the worst thing that a player, any player,
young player, old player can do is be robotic, you know, be so locked in what you're doing,
you can't leave any room for reactions and instincts. When it comes to rookies, it is hard
to be able to feel comfortable with what you're
doing and leave room for the reactions because your mind starts running a million miles an
hour.
And when you talk about the game slowing down, right, this is fun things, sports talk, you
know, the game slowed down for you.
What does that actually mean?
Well, it doesn't mean you're slowed down.
It means your mind has relaxed enough to make room for reactions and instincts to enter.
And that's going to be the biggest challenge for them.
And it's going to take a play or two plays or a game.
You know, could be game one, could be game 17.
Thanks, NFLPA.
But could be game 17 where it kicks in.
Hopefully game one or two or three, something early on.
But I'm sure they'll figure it out.
They're good kids.
They really care about it.
And they ask good questions, and they're supremely talented.
So it's just the speed.
Once the brain slows down and they allow room for the reactions and the instincts,
the game becomes a little bit easier.
Hey, good luck out there, boys.
Figure it out.
Tell your brain to figure out what the brain needs to do.
All right?
And the NFLPA is going to be pumped with how you delivered that 17-game monologue.
A lot of money, though, coming into the league.
There's going to be 18 games next year or the year after that.
Whenever it can happen, there's going to be 18 games.
I don't want to be the bearer of bad news.
We're not going to get into it.
Connor, your question for Aaron Rodgers?
Yeah, Aaron, I'd love to hear your thoughts about Ukraine,
but I know AJ wants to ask you about that maybe next time.
Have you followed the Trey Lance, Jimmy G situation at all,
and do you think that is kind of going to mess up the locker room dynamic?
Yeah, I'll give you my answer next week.
I want to save that for when AJ's there.
Smart.
He probably has a take or two as well on the whole thing.
We have not heard yet.
I'm not sure, though.
Listen, I think a lot of us were thinking, and Jimmy, I think,
admitted himself that he was probably going to be somewhere else, right?
You know, he's played at a high level for a long time.
He's one of those guys who you know can step in and play and play well and the Niners obviously said
they want to move on with Trey as their quarterback he you know you've seen some
clips we saw him in person you know he can definitely throw it and he can
definitely run all over the place he's super athletic but second year guy I
think Jimmy's been league what separate or nine at this point?
It's been a while, right?
So you have a veteran quarterback and a young quarterback on the same team.
I don't think, you know, the media loves to do the, you know,
the pick sides game, right?
Like, oh, how many people are on Trey's side
and how many people on Jimmy's side?
That to me, that idea
really only exists outside
the locker room. In the locker room, and you know,
Pat, you've been in the locker room, it's
brotherhood, it's friendly,
it's camaraderie,
it's friendship, it's
competition, but in the end,
you know, whoever's taking
snaps, that's who we're getting behind.
Now, every now and then there might be a guy who's best friends with somebody
who might harbor some ill will and, you know, really wish their guy was playing.
But, you know, the game's about winning, right?
And when you win, whoever's calling the shots, whoever's making the plays,
that's who we're riding with and that's who we're rolling with.
And everybody gets on board.
That's the big part, Aaron. I don't think it's an issue. with and that's who we're rolling with and everybody gets on board um that's yeah that's
the big part i don't think i don't think it's an issue now if they lose some games and struggle
you know there'll be some heat outside the building inside the building i don't know i mean
i feel like it's it's a very direct environment locker room you know guys voice their opinion
you know what do you think should be playing who could be playing like people get it it's a business
you drop the kid in the first round the kid kid's going to play at some point, right?
Yeah.
The guy's winning MVP.
He's the kid's going to play at some point.
Yeah.
You're 100% right.
I just think it's – if they win, it's all good.
That just seems like a tough decision,
but it sounds like Jimmy G and Trey are actually like boys, boys.
And Jimmy spoke glowingly, as did Trey.
I think that will help out immensely in the locker room.
They probably are.
So let them be.
Yeah,
exactly.
There's not,
there's really,
truly not a lot of animosity in the locker room.
You know,
it's,
it's,
it's our guys,
you know,
and,
and you're not best friends,
everybody on the team,
but,
but there's a lot of really good close friendships in the locker room,
you know,
and,
and it's not bullshit when I stand in front of my locker and,
and speak glowingly about Jordan and the things I'm seeing him doing well in the preseason
and in practice. Like, I'm not like doing that for some sort of, you know, virtue signaling or
whatever. I'm doing that because I love him. I care about him. I want him to do well. When I
see him out there doing well, man, it fires me up. When I see him drop back and one hits and
throw a fucking dime, I'm like, yes, homie, yes.
Here we go, Jordan.
And I bet it's the same with
Jimmy and Trey. You know, like Jimmy probably
is a competitor. He probably wanted to be somewhere and be
a chance to be a starter. But, you know,
c'est la vie. It is what it is.
He's going to be there. He'll be a great teammate, I'm sure.
And if something happens or
if they struggle, he'll be ready to
really jump in. Yeah, it'll get figured out.
I think that's what everybody just assumes.
It'll get figured out.
But it's going to be – if it – I think their settings – whatever.
We'll move on.
I'm excited.
They're going to be a good team.
So he just needs to play within himself and they'll be fine.
He had a great defense.
He had playmakers.
He had a great play caller, head coach.
They'll be just fine.
And that's that brain thing you were talking about with the wide receiver,
probably a quarterback position even more so for the younger guys, huh?
Yeah.
Because that makes you what?
Kind of press everything, I'd assume, right?
I mean, the timing.
You play faster, the timing's a little bit off.
You know, you're two-inch instead of one-inch,
and you're maybe bouncing the pocket, maybe leaving the pocket early,
and not just kind of sitting and letting things kind of just progress
as you're playing on time.
Playing on time isn't playing slow.
It's actually playing fast.
Playing too quickly is playing off time,
and off time is off balance, and off balance is inaccurate.
Of course.
Hell yeah.
All right.
Hey, have a great fucking weekend.
Last year, with the sales of the Aaron Rodgers Book Club t-shirts,
we raised $100,000.
Wow.
We'll be donating that to a few different reader advocacy groups.
We have found three.
We're going to find a couple more.
I think we're going to give $20,000 to each for a total of five.
You did a lot of great work, not only on the field last year,
on this show,
for the readers around the globe.
The book club was a smashing success.
Can't wait to see what we do this year if we have another season of that.
And we know Aaron Rodgers' Tuesdays will be awesome.
We appreciate you, man.
Hey, guys.
I'm excited.
I have some books in mind if we run it back.
Okay.
But big kudos to you guys and the boys
and everybody that makes that show so special.
I cannot wait for season three.
I promise you.
It's unprecedented.
It is going to be fire.
Hell yeah!
Ladies and gentlemen,
you look tank top,
hair pulled back,
mustache.
You look fucking awesome.
Ladies and gentlemen,
the back-to-back MVP and host of season one, two, and now three,
Aaron Rodgers Tuesday.
Aaron Rodgers, thank you, buddy.
Yeah!
Football!
Hour two is on its way.
A lot of tweets last night about people just tweeting what their topic that they cover is.
Yeah, I saw that.
I loved everything about it.
We talk mostly football because we are football stooges,
sports stooges to be exact, the talks of the table.
At Ty Schmidt at Boston Corner.
Boys, I haven't heard a lot out of you today
because we had just had a 55-minute conversation with Aaron.
I apologize for that, but that was a lot of fun, Ty.
Yeah, it was awesome.
Good to see our guy.
Looks happy.
Great to have him back.
I am very excited for this season,
and hearing all that stuff he said about the receivers has got me feeling a little bit better
than I think I was going into the show this morning.
Temper expectations, he said.
We do have rookie-wide receivers that we're depending upon.
There's going to be some learning curves.
But it sounds like he's very comfortable.
Tables are back in the locker room.
That's right.
Huge.
Playing cards again.
The team's coming together.
They're going to have to.
A lot of new faces.
Going to have to make some magic for them.
At Boston Corner, last time we saw that guy, Lake Tahoe, what a time.
Yeah, it was nice to reminisce.
It's almost like that was two years ago at this point because of this journey
we've been on to football.
And now it's here, just kind of looking forward.
But, yeah, Tahoe was amazing.
It was nice to remember those good times and look forward to this whole season
of good times.
Tahoe was kind of like our ayahuasca trip.
Yeah, exactly.
Changed our mindset on things.
It truly was. Find out that that exists out there. Whatasca trip. Yeah, exactly. Changed our mindset on things. It truly was.
Find out that that exists out there.
What a beautiful place.
Yeah, that is the Mecca of California.
It is definitely.
By far.
Impossible to get to.
Mm-hmm.
Impossible to get to.
You got to go by land, air, and sea to get there.
Yeah, you do.
But the place we were staying at that was his house, overlooking Lake Tahoe, with a
full mountain range in the back that people, I guess,
destination snowboard and ski on.
It was amazing out there, dude.
Beautiful. Gorgeous. Now, I know
Tone Diggs is not Foxy.
This is Tone Diggs. Oh, did you say Foxy?
No, I thought Foxy was going to say something,
but he's in another room, so you can't see him. He's behind
a wall, so don't worry about that. You had a great
talk. Go with it, Tone. That's also mine this week. I hate him.
Come on. Jeez. Tone, my favorite had a great thought. Go with it, Todd. That's also mine this week. I hate him. Come on.
Jeez. My favorite week
one bet is the Pittsburgh Steelers plus
six and a half. Shut up. Oh, no.
I love that. Maybe we boost it.
Maybe we boost it.
Boost is hot. Boost is hot.
Boost is hot. What were you going to say there?
We're not big on driving, but I did one time fly
into San Francisco and it's like a three-hour drive to Lake Tahoe.
Beautiful scenery through there.
I recommend everyone does it.
Yeah, they should.
It's a nice little getaway.
But it is hard to fucking get there.
Joining us now is one of the mayors of Tahoe,
a man who went to the American Century Championship like 13 years straight.
He's a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion,
a Ryder Cup champion, all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers,
and COVID survivor multi-time.
One of the co-hosts of Aaron Rodgers Tuesday,
which will be entering an unprecedented season three coming up this season ladies and gentlemen aj hawk what's up dude it
was good i got to see most of it man he looked great sounded great he was uh i i scheduled it
for the one o'clock hour he had he had something going on so we went to the noon i didn't like
that we didn't have you on here we're missing a special level of toxicity you know no i thought it was great i enjoyed watching as a fan so it was
it was very enjoyable to see what'd you get a little aj hot cut today too huh hair's looking
good look at that that's a few days ago i think oh really reunion cut you've been working out
yeah is this uh yeah you're getting ready you've been cutting carbs so you have a little bit more
joy you look a little bit more handsome doesn't look a little bit more handsome, doesn't he?
Yeah, he does.
He's probably going to spray tan tonight.
Oh, because you're the picker for game day.
No way.
Jack Harlow is going to do well.
We'll see.
His nail tag skull knows how to keep a little secret,
but that doesn't mean he should be picking games for Ohio State Notre Dame.
If the entire 2002 National Championship squad is going to be in the building,
it's either A.J. Hawk or Maurice Claret. Yeah, and who has ties to Notre Dame. If the entire 2002 National Championship squad's going to be in the building, it's either A.J. Hawk or Maurice Claret.
Yeah, and who has ties to Notre Dame?
That also went to Ohio State.
A.J. Hawk. Boom.
Brady Quinn. In the family.
What about Laura Hawk?
Is Laura Hawk picking?
Oh, yeah. She would really, really
enjoy that. I'm sure she'd be up for it.
Alright, let's dive into it.
Aaron seems to be in a great place.
I don't know how much – how often do you talk to him nowadays
in the training camp days?
Is it every day?
It feels like he's in a great spot.
Are you expecting the same thing?
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, every time I talk to him, he always seems goofy
and like he always is and in a good mood
and seems to be really enjoying football too.
Feels very comfortable.
He wore what he claims was a tank top.
It looked like an old man shooting basketball shirt
or something that my dad would wear to the ref.
But, yeah, it was cool.
Yeah, it had an interesting fit, but I think he was just trying.
You know, he said he was trying.
No, it was great.
I respect the effort.
I think he probably cut that maybe.
Yeah, it looked like it.
There's a chance he might have cut that just for the occasion,
and we appreciate him for that.
The tables being back in the locker room, he said, like,
hey, people aren't going to take this as a big deal, but it is.
That is a big deal.
That means that all of the, hey, you're not allowed to hang out with each other
even though you're teammates and don't know each other that well.
And if you do know each other better, you'd be a better team.
All those protocols that are put in place to save lives, obviously,
zero NFL guys ended up dying.
Thank you.
Thank God. Thank you, NFL guys, for surviving that. But that's all out. calls that are put in place to save lives obviously zero nfl guys ended up dying thank you thank god
thank you for surviving that but that that's all out that's huge i think i think we're gonna see
i think that is a huge deal aj hawk i didn't even think about that until i heard him say it but then
as he says it i understand it's the whole the same buzzword culture and all that if the team
gets along they're gonna play better if they if you trust the guy next to you and you've done things and you've hung out with that dude off the field like in
their real life you're gonna trust that person a lot more i feel like and if a whole team is like
that then yeah look out you're gonna be going somewhere and it might change the way you view
the profession as a whole yeah like some people who maybe were thinking about who knows how many
years i have left you know because he's been kind of experiencing a terrible experience in the NFL.
Not although he's not playing well,
but the camaraderie of the game, of the locker room, is a massive part.
Money's great.
Winning's great.
Competing's great.
Legacy's great.
But a massive part of your day-to-day, your overall happiness,
is your interaction with the building and how it all goes.
So you can see how maybe some people thought the last two years weren't what they signed up.
This ain't. This is much different than what I signed up for.
So maybe that changes the future.
Maybe that changes some futures, Ty Schmidt.
What do you think about that?
Yeah, it's got me thinking four more years.
What?
I might start, you know uh get that
thing out of the dryer and start wearing it every day again he did look healthy aj hair is full since
the ayahuasca trip you you get the tail end of that hair there and the way back there we go
there's ayahuasca still in it oh definitely you know i mean because how long it's been on his head
yeah but he's uh he was holding something there what was that he was pointing at the sun he's
pointing the sun well so he wasn't holding that bottle i did see him grab the bottle at
one point but i thought this was potentially a marketing photo for somebody uh but he looks good
i i honestly i'm happy that he seems just fucking happy like carefree happy not worried about
anything because the world has reacted to all the interviews he has done over the last couple weeks aj how have they reacted well he's been championed by a lot of people
just like what happened in the past they get a victory lap almost with it and then there's still
people that are still killing him too but that'll only continue to be a case he's aaron rogers and
people are going to hate him for no reason and people are going to hate him for a reason and
people are going to love him after actually getting a chance to hear that hippie fucker talk.
He's a hippie, dude, isn't he?
I mean, it does seem to be trending in that direction.
Trending.
It's a great thing.
I think it's awesome.
Hey, man, be you.
I like anybody that is authentic and they are who they truly are.
With the hippies and the cowboys.
Great song there by Cody Jinks, I believe is his name.
Was introduced to that song within the last couple weeks.
And a lot of the words he's saying in there, I'm like,
this guy's talking about my life.
I'm normally the hippie surrounded by the cowboys.
But basically how the industry doesn't like him.
So it's a big A.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Nice.
They don't write about me
in your magazines you know that whole thing what the hell sure well he's a fucking heat maker dude
everybody's gonna love it did you watch the games last night last night you know obviously pit gets
the win over west virginia west virginia going into that game i'm not sure what the expectations
were pit was ranked 17th they returned the number two defensive line in the country, full offensive line. They have weapons upon weapons up there in Pittsburgh after an ACC
championship last year. West Virginia, a lot of turnover. I was impressed by the Mountaineer team.
I was impressed by the environment. That was awesome. Made me actually genuinely feel football
was back, AJ. Then Penn State on that last drive game winner,
Big Ten football kicking off in beautiful fashion. Last night was fucking awesome, AJ. Did you catch
any of the games, and what are your thoughts? Yeah, those two games, I was kind of flipping
back and forth throughout the night, and you're right. I heard you say it earlier with Aaron.
It felt like, here we go. Football has started. It has begun. I know there was other games on
around, but those two, both were good games. It kind of
came down to the wire, and I think you hit it right on the head.
The atmosphere was awesome. It was cool
to see college fans going
crazy, and yeah, the games lived up to the hype,
I think. Tom Diggs, how did we bet last night?
We bet pretty good. I know the Superboost hit.
Why is that?
A lot of the show
was on Mountaineers plus 7.5,
so they did well.
That's very cool.
Graham Harrell.
16-1, favorites straight up to start the season.
That's not ATS.
It's not against the spread, but straight up.
There hasn't really been any big upsets besides Northwestern over Nebraska.
Every other favorite has won so far this season.
So you're saying they are who we thought they were.
Sounds like it.
I mean, there's a lot of football we play tonight and tomorrow.
All right, this weekend, massive matchups here.
Obviously, Oregon-Georgia.
Georgia favored by 16-and-a-half.
Reigning champs who had 45 people drafted in the first round
that only had 32 draft picks somehow.
Cincinnati-Arkansas is a big deal.
Luke Fickle, what's he going to do in the post?
Desmond Ritter, Sauce Gardner,
that whole era, era.
Then you got Utah, Florida.
Dan Orlovsky's on the call.
Dan Orlovsky laying down in Gainesville
and he was asked by a local,
he said he pumped up, first night game
at the Swamp. And that guy looked
at him dead face and said, buckle up,
son, because the Swamp is no joke.
Dan Orlovsky tweeted
that he obviously either felt threatened or impressed by their fan base and then all eyes
are on notre dame ohio state game day will be live in columbus aj hawk will be the guest picker
jack harlow will be performing bangers and marcus freeman in his first head coaching stint with the Notre Dame Fighting Irish
returned to the place that he played, Ohio State, with a 17.5 point favorite.
This should be a massive weekend.
College football is fucking doing it.
Normally, okay, we're in the college football world this year with the Omaha College Football Production six games or whatever.
So normally we're not in the college football world because the NFL has
enough going on.
This year we're in the college football landscape.
I loved it last night.
And I assume this weekend with this lineup,
we're going to have fucking great games this weekend, AJ.
You're going to be all boozed up.
But I think we're in for it this weekend with college football,
and we appreciate them for that.
I think that's what makes college football cool, like the atmosphere,
the band, the weird, like the diehard fans that have been fans of that university
since they were born they were born into it i think that's what makes college football cool
we may not know every player on the field but i think everything that surrounds it makes it awesome
i concur completely i'm i'm not normally a big-time gambler on college football but connor
feels like you got it all figured out oh yeah, yeah I mean, I've been ruined for you know, good college football for my entire life
Everyone knows I watch college football every single day if I could but I mean Tony said it about the favorites 16 one straight up
I'm just a you know, I like the dogs early just because of these massive spreads
Maybe it is top heavy with Ohio State and Bama
But Notre Dame is a fit number five ranked team in the country, and they're 17-and-a-half-point dogs.
AJ Hoxton being nervous, the Buckeyes are going to be.
I'm nervous.
I'm mostly nervous that Tobittle is going to get the boys so fired up
at halftime that Notre Dame's going to come out and have no idea what to do
in response to whatever cool, funky stuff Tobittle does.
Hey, Tobittle is awesome.
They might have some competition, though, with the Tennessee band.
Did you see Cole Kublik's tweet to us?
I did not.
Did they do a dong or something like people have done in the past?
What's wrong with you?
They don't do dongs.
Nobody does dongs.
Other people haven't gotten in trouble in the past.
No, there's no dongs in the halftime band play.
Come on.
If a band is doing something, I assume it's something like that if you're bringing it up.
No, you think I'm bringing up dongs?
That would be if you brought it up.
We'd all go, oh, the Baylor probably made a dong.
So what'd they do?
They were awesome.
They played narco.
Oh, they did?
Okay.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, they crushed it.
Cole Kubrick sent it to us because obviously it's hot with the Edwin Diaz.
That's all part of the pageantry that is college football. A man
who went to college at the University of
Maryland would go on to catch a football
and cause a miracle for a fucking
city. Now he's a member of the Buffalo
Bills. Two-time, two-time
pro bowler and
a man who just had a back-to-school
backpack giveaway, making
the world a much better place. Ladies and gentlemen,
Stephon Day. Hey, we're so big, huh? Hey, how are you, man? school backpack giveaway making the world a much better place ladies and gentlemen stefan day
we're so big guys hey how are how are you man you caught the tail end of our conversation uh there was no bands that made the dong formation on any fields yet i just want to let you know that
just clarify it i got you i heard about i heard about some dogs, though, so I got to pay attention to that.
Have you seen a Bildo yet in your time being a Buffalo Bill?
No, no, not yet.
I haven't been blessed to see one.
That's part of the initiation.
So I'll let you know.
Come across my desk.
Well, now that COVID's kind of done, you know,
because Bildos are being left at home because Bildos are known to hold COVID.
Transmitted.
Transmitted. So the Buffalo Bills fans, they kind of knew that.
Stefan, sorry that this is how this has started,
but thank you so much for joining us.
Giving back to the community with backpacks for back to school.
You're a great dude.
I think we're all enjoying the fact that you're up there with the Buffalo Bills.
This year, massively different.
Obviously, you're – hey.
Hey.
Hey.
Hey. SD got a big old bag
congrats on that i think you're getting a call yeah i think congrats on that but this year you guys are favorites now you know what i mean you guys are you guys are you guys are
yeah it's all right.
I mean, it's actually kind of dope to think about.
Yeah, kind of sweet.
Sitting sideways.
Let me see if I can make some mistakes.
Oh, okay.
All right, it's just getting worse.
No, I'm just worse.
They're facing Asia.
We got action.
Come on, listen.
Go!
Hey, look at you, a tech genius.
I didn't know that was the case.
You guys are at the top. Part-time IT guy. You guys are at the top of the mountain now, though. All, a tech genius. I didn't know that was the case. You guys are at the top.
I'm an IT guy.
You guys are at the top of the mountain now, though.
All eyes are on you.
You guys are going into the Super Bowl champs as favorites week one next week,
less than six days away from now.
Do you guys even know that?
Do you have any clue, or is it the same vibe as you felt the last couple years?
Do you understand that it's heightened now,
or can you not tell with the group that you have?
I can't tell personally just because, you know, we kind of got that team made up of guys that's kind of a tip on your shoulder guys,
the guys who came through the back door, had to work hard to get to where they're at type of guys.
So it's been it's been a definitely different positioning from everybody else's perspective.
But I feel like we live in an ignore the noise, especially in that realm right now.
This chapter, you know, we fell short a couple times.
So at this point, we're just trying to get over the hump
and get to where we all feel like we belong.
But it kind of starts somewhere, and I don't want to give you the political answer,
but it's got a big game coming up in a couple days.
It's just going to kind of get us to where we want to go as far as one step at a time.
Hell yeah.
How good is Josh Allen?
And he's so young, too, and he continues to get better and better.
What's it like watching that dude just continue to improve?
Josh Allen, in my opinion, is the best quarterback in the league.
You know, I'm not just saying that just because he's my quarterback.
You've seen him have explosive games, crazy games.
You've seen him run.
You've seen him jump over corners, run over DBs over dbs challenge linebackers stiff arm d lineman i feel like he's he's a quarterback that provides
the complete package and he can he can throw the ball like he can throw the hell out of the ball
he's a leader i've seen i've seen his approach change this year as well as far like what kind
of um how he's been you know he's a playful guy he has a lot of fun out there he kind of keeps
things light but he also this year i kind of feel like he kind of like taking that charge like um i feel like he's stepping into that
that i mean he's been qb1 but he's stepping into that realm of like i know i know i'm talented i
know what i can do and i'm trying to do everything i can i can to win it do you think that's a natural
evolution of a player there especially at the quarterback position do you think like
the way he had acted because of how old he was what he has experienced what he hadn't experienced like do you think this is just a
maturation of him becoming like a full like face of a franchise yeah the man i say the man just
because uh coming in is kind of hard to you know you know you don't know what you're getting in
quarterbacks like you can you can assume what you can get, but over the past couple of years,
you've seen the maturation process of a guy
keep continuing to get better.
And that's what you want from a quarterback position,
especially as a receiver,
a guy that continue working at his craft,
continue to try to put you in positions
to really have success.
So I feel like it was inevitable
as far as the type of guy he is
and the type of time that he puts in.
He was about to be that guy. He was about to be that guy.
He was about to be the guy at one point.
You know what I'm saying?
It just happened sooner than later, I guess.
Was it bullshit or real?
Like, you guys, as soon as you hung out the first time, like, hey, we're going to be boys?
Was that kind of because you had to be?
No, that wasn't bullshit.
That was real shit.
Like, it was COVID.
You know, we played some Call of Duty and shit like that.
So he really did revive me a couple of times.
And I was like, damn, he might not be half as bad. But shit,
when we got the first time working out and I kind of met him and we kind of had a little
bit of an energy, like, all right, yeah, I kind of like him. He's not that bad. You know,
I never had another quarterback. And I've had like five quarterbacks since I've been
in the league at that time. But when I met him, he might not be that bad he might be all right yeah because coming out of Minnesota everybody knew you were
incredibly talented but had no idea what had happened you were fucking great over there
why is it not working then you go to Buffalo it's just rebirth now you're wildly wealthy hey
wildly what resurgence it's like resurgence they brought me back they brought me back to life
and I feel like the culture kind of embraced me as well as far as, like,
the type of player that I was and, you know, what I brought to the table.
They just, you know, embraced me wholeheartedly.
And they was like, look, go out there and be yourself.
And I'm still grateful for that up to this day.
That's awesome to hear.
And thank you for saying that.
Is that why you think, like, when a guy like Von Miller comes in
or anybody else comes in, the bills are just built
right now. The culture's already built.
You're either going to fit in or you're going to not
make the team. Is that kind of the mindset up there
right now? 100%. But I feel like
a lot of guys, some guys
perceivably have a bad rep
or anything, but everybody on our team really
is good people for the most part.
From what I know. I don't know
what people do.
My personal relationship and professional, I've seen nothing but good things from these people they work hard work hard as shit uh they're good teammates and i feel like it's like that
culture that makes you like all right like you know what i'm saying they're winning here they're
doing everything in their power to make adjustments and we added players adding the right pieces
and i think that's why i make it easier for guys to be like, yeah, like I want to go play over there.
Like, shit.
They went in, they got in the right mindset,
and I feel like we'd be having fun.
Like, you know, football can kind of turn into a job for a lot of guys.
Groundhog Day.
I feel like we're having hella fun.
Groundhog Day, man.
It just gets so repetitive in there.
It does look like you guys are always fucking dancing.
I mean, there's always Josh Allen doing something.
It's awesome.
That's a real thing, though.
That can change a whole season.
Exactly. Especially cultural.
I mean, just for us to keep things...
I got a guy, a quarterback, Derek Dutt.
I mean, I'm not going to... He hits me in the nuts
probably every other day.
Wow! Holy!
He has a joke for me every week.
So it's like, even when
you're dragging, you might be sort of like,
man, I'm tired right now.
They ain't going to let you be that way.
It's too many guys on the team.
Like, no, we got work to do.
So you better get in a better mood.
That's awesome.
Are you guys on offense excited to watch your defense play?
And also a guy like Vaughn Miller, I know they brought him in, they say, to kind of be the closer and to finish games for you. And second part of that question, is that a sweet backstreet boys t-shirt you were wearing right now yeah oh yeah oh there we go they're on tour
oh they're back i forgot your question because i was so focused on the team
where yeah vaughn miller him closing games out
the defense has been it's definitely been exciting like seeing a guy like that in
person like seeing a guy like that like shit like come off the edge damn near can ruin a practice
if you let him just because like he's making so much havoc he's getting to the quarterback
those plays where everybody's arguing like damn that would have been a sack or not it wouldn't
have been a sack his shit be be, real close to being a sack.
So it's like I think Coach has to let him know a couple times to ease up.
Like, all right, give us a look right here.
Let us get a player or two because he'll be so disruptive.
But it's something to enjoy from the offensive position to be like, damn,
like we're going to have some extra possessions.
Like I feel like we're going to get the ball back.
We got Dak.
We got him.
We got Big Phil, Jordan Phillips, Tim.
We got some guys, some 30-year guys, AJ Appanenza.
We got guys that can play.
So I think another guy to look out for, and I don't want to jinx it,
but Greg is a baller.
Who?
He just came in with a different.
Greg.
The D.N.
Greg Greg?
From Miami.
His name's Greg, Greg?
I just call him Big G.
Big G's real mild-mannered, but he's a dog.
I feel like that second year,
that second year jump is one of those guys
that you need to keep your eyes out for.
Hey, fucking Big G's going to be a problem.
Big G's going to be a problem.
How old are you, Stefan?
I'm 28.
So you're too young
to even know
that there was real
NSYNC Backstreet Boys
fandom beef
back in the day.
Yeah, beef.
I do know that, though.
That's natural.
Well, I'm Justin Timberlake guy
through and through.
Don't know how to tell you that.
You're a JT guy?
Yeah, how could you not be?
That's like,
I'm starting to question.
I'm a fan.
I'm with you.
As you can say,
I concur.
Like, I agree.
You're the man. I'm with you. As you can say, I concur. Like, I agree. You're the man.
Go ahead, Tony.
Stephon, do you like – now, who knows what they're going to do on defense,
if they're going to mirror you or not.
But do you like, like, week one right out of the gate,
you going against another dog in Jalen Ramsey?
Yeah, 100%.
Like, I feel like this is what this game is made of.
You know, we got one of the toughest schedules.
People don't even think we have a tough schedule probably,
but our first four or five games are damn near primetime games.
It's fitting that we jump off the fan with the first game of the season.
I feel like last year we were cut short for many reasons,
but this is that game that you wanted.
This is the game that we wanted, something that we are excited about,
I'm excited about.
I can't wait.
Let's not do any competitive advantage and give anything away.
But do you feel like you picked up right where you left off?
I mean, literally your last game ended in, like, the best spot for your
offensive side.
And we got a lot of love for the defense.
We love everybody on the defensive side.
They're great on our show.
But the conversation all offseason was obviously the coin toss and your
offense was not unstoppable at the end of the season.
When you come back into training camp is it like you guys are picking up
because of the veteran experience that you have on there or is there still
that process of having to ramp up week ones nowhere near what week 15 will
be.
Is that still a thing you guys
can still get better it's a it's a little it's a little bit of both you say you have some camaraderie
that you've built uh for the past couple years a couple couple key things that you might be
comfortable with but it's always a learning curve as well we still i feel like we watch more film
now on specific routes than we did before because it was a lot more so off of town and improv and
getting open and that kind of thing.
But now it's more so like, all right, well, what are we doing right here?
What's the plan right here?
What's the backup plan?
What's plan A?
What's plan 1A?
I'm saying so I feel like it is some carryover,
but at the same time, you still got to work your way back
to hitting on all cylinders.
Can't wait to watch what that offense grows into after,
if you're going to get better off of fucking last year.
You guys were electrifying to watch.
Connor, your question.
Yeah, Stephon, you added to the D-line,
but you also took a corner in the first round this year.
Elam, have you had to give him a couple welcome to the NFL moments
and kind of show him the ropes?
Yeah, we've been on his ass.
We've been on his ass, 100%.
I feel like he's a young guy that's built for it, though.
He came into camp with the right mindset of, I'm trying to get better, and we've been on his ass 100 i feel like he's he's a young guy that's built for it though like he came into camp
with the right mindset of i'm trying to get better and uh we've been on his ass 100 like i told as a
receiver him saying you don't you don't want to make it you don't want to make it easy at all
because the conversations we're having with him is if it's if it's if it's hard right here it'll
be easier in the game and sometimes that is that is true like i feel like we have some exceptional
receivers that guys that can get open catch the ball so uh in practice you ain't gonna do nothing but get
better and it's a big ass from a young corner you know everybody's talking about ignoring the noise
and this is a guy that's coming in in the first round and need him to play we need him to play
we need him to play well so uh i feel like it's been indefinitely he's been a professional he's
been grinding and i can't wait to see him i can't wait to see him in I can't wait to see him in action. Last question here, Stefan from Tide.
Stefan, I know he was the quarterback's coach last year,
but Ken Dorsey is his first year as you guys' offensive coordinator.
Has there been any kind of learning curve with him coming in
or when you have vets like you and Josh kind of, you know,
in your rooms steering the ship?
Has that transition been smoother than you maybe expected?
It's been a lot smoother, especially considering he was already
kind of like a part of our team already.
He kind of already had some more personal relationships
with not only me, Josh, and the other receivers.
We spoke every day.
We had a million walkthroughs.
So it just kind of worked out that he stayed in the building
and he got the OC job.
So I feel like when you have those veteran guys and those professionals,
it's a lot easier for him to really be like,
okay, these are some of the plays you feel comfortable with.
It's more like an open dialect on like, okay, this is what works.
This is what I've watched hundreds of hours, and this has worked for us.
Let's tailor it up to try to do it XYZ way
and continue to have success at it.
So I feel like it was a smoother process than I anticipated.
But, you know, nothing is going to be perfect.
It's going to be – this year is its own entity,
and it's going to be something we're going to have to figure out anyway.
Man, you're awesome on this show every time you come on.
We appreciate the hell out of you.
Thanks, boss.
I appreciate it.
Hey, you're a good punter, right?
I think I've seen you punt a ball after –
I'm nice as shit.
You know what I'm saying?
Are you doing that this year?
Is that a celebration, or do you get fined for that?
I always punt the ball in this sense, celebration or you get fined for that i'll be i always put the ball in the stands and i've got fun multiple times so if you if you're telling on me right now no no no i'm saying if you make one into like i'll donate
a pretty if you know where are you donating though one of those you tell me out of the
stadium no no no double header i, if that's what you want.
Hey, if you want the other one.
I don't want that.
No, okay.
I was saying it was your decision where I'll donate.
If you punt a Bildo, I'll donate.
All right. All right, so 20,000 from me if you punt one.
And it's like, it has to go.
Where do you normally, I don't, you're telling,
you're kind of setting the standard here right now.
Probably upper level. Probably upper level. Whoa. Okay okay so if you go on to the upper level and
we'll find out because people will have self-worth i'll donate 25 grand to any buildo charity or any
charity that you would like and if you pun a buildo aj will donate 25 grand right aj yeah 25
good good good it's got at least get in the stands, though.
I got you.
Yeah.
That's going to hurt.
You better pick a big one.
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Ladies and gentlemen, Stephon Diggs.
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Brad Biggs came on this show, Feel the Beat.
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Hey, Brad Biggs, thank you.
Thank you, Brad.
Love to have you back.
I don't know why you blessed us with the information that you blessed us with.
Brad Biggs basically said, hey, that Anaheim plan thing's coming real soon and then that got picked
up and then yesterday press conference here we go Arlington is happening with the Chicago Bears
there's a buyout after 2027 uh to get out of Soldier Field that's like 87 or 97 million dollars
or whatever and that's like they announced the plans of what they're going to do.
The Chicago Bears are no longer playing in Soldier Field after the next four or five years,
and they're going to be moving to Arlington.
So look for Arlington to have a plaza, a casino, hotels, restaurants, shops,
a whole experience, especially with a team like the Bears
who have a lot of history, the museum that they can put in there,
just like Lambeau has, just like New England has, just like Dallas has.
There will be an entire world there for the Chicago Bears to build upon.
It's great business.
That's going to be a little bit different, though, huh?
Are you Bears fans still going to be pumped about it or no?
Oh, yeah.
A new stadium is going to be absolutely amazing.
Okay, so you don't mind that it's moving out of the city, right?
No, yeah.
Like Arlington Heights is like 45 minutes, so it kind of sucks in that.
But you still have a skyline you can see.
It's like, I don't know.
Is that where the practice facility is?
Is it near there?
No, that's more north.
So this is northwest.
How far is the practice facility, you think, from where this will be?
Probably under 30 minutes, probably.
Okay.
Maybe 30, yeah.
Because the practice facility is like 45 minutes away, I think,
from downtown Chicago, right?
Yeah.
It's way out there. So guys that play for the Bears, I think, from downtown Chicago, right? Yeah. It's way out there.
So guys that play for the Bears, I think if they live in the city,
they have to commute a pretty good bit in the morning for work,
or they live out.
Bless you.
It tastes too good.
Is the practice facility new, though?
Because could they build a new one in that Arlington Heights spot?
I assume they would, yeah.
But that's what I'm talking about.
Whenever you did woo, what did you say? you made a sound there for what for the bears whenever
you said it was 45 minutes away from chicago i felt far to me because i know chicago it could
be 45 minutes or two hours doesn't matter there's so much traffic oh yeah is elon building a uh
hyperloop the tunnel and company it's there already right is it so wait when will they
break ground though they'll have this thing done before they move out of soldier field right yeah they would obviously but i'm saying they're
not gonna like all of a sudden 2027 and now we break ground we'll be in soldier field two more
years well it seems like that's what every city did with covid for construction yeah you know we
had two years and then we just said fuck it once everybody's back then we'll just him hard we'll
not let anybody be able to move feels like every city's done that, so let's hope Chicago doesn't do that
or Arlington doesn't do that with this new Bears thing.
Let's get ahead of it.
You mean like when the Vikings decided that they were going to play
at the University of Minnesota outside for a year
when it was negative 10 every year?
Did you play up there?
Did you play in that?
Yeah.
Well, you guys had the legendary coldest game there, right?
I played there, but wasn't that partly because their dome collapsed?
Remember that?
No, yeah. That was the old dome, right right they were supposed to play in that until the new
one was finished old dumb so old deteriorates that was a part of their thing about leaving
minnesota right yeah there was there was speculation they were they were it was the old uh hey if we
don't get a new one we won't you'll'll kind of force our hand. We'll have to go to L.A.
Fuck.
We'll have to leave.
You don't pay for a new stadium.
So I think that happened.
Then they got agreed for a new stadium.
Going to play it out in this old...
What's the name of the old dome?
Metrodome.
The Metrodome.
We're going to play it out, and then Snow said,
we would like to say goodbye to this place as well.
So they crashed through the goddamn roof.
They have to play...
Wasn't Brett... Didn't Brett hit his head or something like that?
Were you a part of that game?
When Brett hit his head playing outdoors in Minnesota?
Yeah.
I wasn't a part of that game, but no, I played against the Vikings when
Teddy Bridgewater was the quarterback at Minnesota's college field.
Was it cold as fuck?
Cold, turf, very hard.
Yeah, it was Minnesota.
How cold though?
Like alarmingly cold yeah i mean minnesota
gets so much snow too i feel like minneapolis especially and yeah it's it was i don't know
exactly what it was but yeah it was not warm at all i know that i think it was negative 13 when
we played the vikings jesus christ just that was before when how do you measure that how do you
measure the absence of temperature at negative 13 and then then that's before wind chill, they said.
That's before wind chill.
Okay.
Jesus.
How much colder could it get?
How much colder could it get?
Can it get colder?
And can you feel the difference between negative 13 and let's say negative 30?
If it's windy, you know that.
It could be negative 5, but if there's not wind, it's actually bearable.
It's okay.
But when that wind picks up, it's nasty.
I guess stale cold, you're right.
I guess you can deal with it.
It's much more manageable.
Yeah, yeah.
But still, is negative 5 with wind that feels like negative 10?
Is that the same as negative 30 feels like?
At what point is your body just like, yeah, it's fucking.
It is unbearably cold right now you know like that's what it's cold yeah like those games
i'd go out for warm-ups and i'd wear like in green bay they could have you could get these
kind of like scuba gloves that you could wear when it was really cold they're nike thick i
wore them a few times uh or you always wear like little liners under my football gloves too you
always think they might help they don't really do much, but you go out for warmups
and legit 90 seconds in, I wish my fingers were numb.
They're not numb.
They just feel like there's needles sticking through all of those
and my feet.
So go right as soon as warmups are over, put my helmet in the sauna,
sitting there for a half a second, try to get my fingers back,
and then go out for the kickoff.
I don't know how you guys had to hit each other like that.
Like warmup hits?
I don't know how you got through warmup drills other like that. Like warm-up hits? I don't know how you got through warm-up hits.
Those are not fun.
Those are absolutely not fun.
I remember watching those.
Me and Vinny would be sitting on the heated bench or whatever,
and we'd have the poncho, the big fucking warm poncho, backwards.
Smart.
Well, Dutch oven, you make yourself there.
Exactly.
I mean, I'm not shitting my pants yet, but yes,
it is certainly an oven that you are cooking yourself in.
And we're just sitting there for the warm-ups as fans
are piling into this fucking stadium.
And we're watching our teammates just do
individual drill where it's like shuffle,
shuffle, fucking kind of
engage. It's kind of
I don't know. It's a full strike.
Come on. Especially if it's that cold.
Your coaches are obviously pissed that
they think there's no juice. So we've got to get some pops.
Let's see where the pad's going.
And all of a sudden, guys are on the ground.
Yeah, and me and Vinny are just sitting there like, man,
today's a good day to be the guy that only kicks the ball.
Because these guys are getting hit before the game.
These hits mean nothing.
This means absolutely nothing.
And every single fucking bash to the jaw that happens just has to hurt so much
more in those fucking cold
weather games i i those are the warm-ups that made me think of tj we i don't know how you guys
would do warm-ups you do individual all this stuff pat and go offense and then you come together and
run like three or four plays ones on ones one oh against one yeah and that's the those little
sessions where maybe the defensive coaches are a little juiced up and want you to come downhill a little bit or whatever and if you would come like and it's freezing cold and you hit
sitting or tj like you jam a finger you hit him when it's freezing that's when those dudes get
legit really pissed what the fuck are you doing i'm like hey man you got you know you see these
guys you see my coaches they're losing their mind you're like all right man all right man what if
tj lane just started swinging yeah fight i don't. TJ, he's got a rock head, man.
That dude, he would blast me in warm-ups.
What?
So, Coon, TJ Lang, Sitton, you, just the hardest heads in the NFL.
No tour at all.
We're playing old school football.
If we could take these Rydells off, we think that would be an advantage for our team.
No, I don't.
I wouldn't wear a helmet.
Are you kidding me?
It's a weapon.
I get it.
Yeah, that's why you're thinking that. But if you had to. You can't use your head if I wouldn't wear a helmet. Are you kidding me? It's a weapon. I get it. Yeah, that's why you're thinking that.
But if you had to.
You can't use your head if you don't wear a helmet.
Yeah, if everybody had to take helmets off, though, I feel like your.
It'd be rugby.
Yeah, but your team.
Your team, though, would be benefactors from that rule, I think.
I see where you're going with that.
I mean, you want them to get your shots in?
Yeah.
I hate that. Like, I'm from Pittsburghsburgh obviously you're from ohio we grew
up in the cold okay i grew up in the fucking cold there's blizzards i had missed school
there's ice i've you know i hate the fucking cold though i i hate when people are like
oh he's from pittsburgh he'd be okay get used to it nope gets worse as you get older actually i
think yeah i still fucking hate it let's not. Oh, you're wearing a long sleeve.
I thought you were from Pittsburgh.
I am.
Yeah, we learn these fucking work, dude.
Like, you know, like when it's really cold.
Yeah, like this is good.
You're probably going to see me with gloves on, too, if I had to guess.
And I'm going to fucking use this heated bench we have over here.
Yeah.
It is something as you grow older, the less amount of cold air you ever want to feel in your fucking body.
We may not hate it as much as people who have never experienced it
their whole life, but it still fucking sucks no matter where you go.
No, people that never experience it, it's a celebration.
It's like a little sea and snow.
It's a novelty.
Snow is great, yeah.
Snow, oh my God, I play a game of snow.
That's like that whole thing.
And I'm like, another game.
Fucking cold.
It'd be nice if we get
a little sun around man tateo another day exactly never seen yeah but third fourth quarter though
the novelty does wear off i think absolutely cold practices too though we had a lot of cold
outdoor practices those those can get difficult we did as well and that's i hated whenever i said
that about the bangals indoor practice facility.
Like, build a fucking indoor practice facility.
I get a bunch of Bengals players, oh, sorry, we're Ohio guys.
We practice outside.
It's like, yeah, you can fucking practice outside.
Yeah.
We're just talking about like extra reps and not getting pneumonia or having to worry about a car crash on the highway over top of the thing.
Or after hours, maybe you don't want to turn on the lights to the entire outdoor practice facility.
You can go in your indoor facility.
That's what I'm talking about.
Yeah, sounds soft to me.
You can do all that outside.
It's like, okay, yeah, I'm sure you can.
Be a human, though, as well.
And that's the whole game of the whole thing.
That's unbelievable to think of not having any reprieve from that.
It's like, hey, listen, guys, you get it.
It's going to be cold today, okay? It's going to be cold today. It's going to be cold
tomorrow and the next day and the day after.
That's unbelievable. Depending upon who
you play, though, that is how practices go.
Practices outside, you're playing an outdoor game.
Practices indoor, you're playing an indoor game. That's just
standard operating procedure.
In Cincinnati, though, they did
the schedule where you come in, meet, breakfast,
whatever, get your jersey on, go walk
through, and then come back, have lunch.
That's kind of the old school formula that some coaches used to do.
I'm sure they still do.
But we would take 20 minutes to get dressed for walkthrough
because we would walk through on the game field in Cincinnati.
So you're in the stadium, go to your locker,
guys are putting starter coats on in 35 layers
just so you can do walkthrough out there in the freezing cold.
It wouldn't be bad to maybe be able to move a little bit during a walkthrough.
Or see a coach's face.
He's so bundled up I can't even see him.
Made a Super Bowl with all this.
Made a Super Bowl with all this.
Think about what this team is going to be able to do.
I like the Bengals a lot.
Oh, yeah.
I like the Bengals a lot all of a sudden.
Joey Burrow, too, seems like the guy we'd like.
Online.
He wants to go to dive bars.
Respect.
Yes. Joey Burrow is a guy that we like. Online. He wants to go to dive bars. Respect. Yes.
Joey Burrow's the guy that we like.
Now, I do believe he probably could.
If you go to the right dive bars, you probably could.
Probably scared to do it, though, because everywhere he goes,
he says it's a full production.
I thought that was a great way to describe what life is like,
probably, in the public for him and other people that are like him.
It's always a scene.
There's always going to be something.
Especially here, though.
Like, Joe Burrow is nationally, internationally internationally around the world is known and loved but in ohio man it's
a different thing like people they've always loved him but they are just obsessed now because he is
like he look like how in the world did this happen the bangles were lucky enough to get joe burrow
and he's already done this so early in his career and he seems to be so fucking cool yeah like just seems to be like
the coolest dude of all time so i'm at the ufc fight coolest looking fucking guy of all time
didn't even know who he was he was so fucking cool for like a minute and a half two minutes i just
fucking had a full oh my god this guy's so cool spell kind of tossed over top of me that i talked
to him he's so good at football hey you're a homebody now though joe that's what it is that's
that's just kind of how this goes it becomes a full up and i think he knows that he knew that
lsu i mean lsu that dude is a god so i'm sure that he couldn't go anywhere started yeah i i think
those quarterbacks have to live that different life for a long time i remember thinking about
that with like manziel whenever he came out i was like hey you just party at home now dude like
like in my gear house like somebody just needs to tell him like hey you just party at home now dude like like in your house like somebody
just needs to tell him like hey you just party at home now that is how it goes it sucks i understand
believe me i'm a person that enjoys going out but i'm not a person that's as popular as you are as
known as you are or somebody that's going to try to egg you into a situation as much as you are
using your party at home but some guys can't do it feels like joey burrow has bought all the way
the fuck in that who he is what what he is, how he is.
It would be nice to go to a dive bar every once in a while,
but teach your own.
Let's kind of move on.
That fucking guy is going to be a guy for a long, long, long time.
Everybody loves him.
The analytics people love him.
The super football film people love him.
The technique people fucking love him.
Everybody loves that guy as a prospect and as a quarterback.
Good for Cincinnati.
And they have an indoor practice facility that's currently being built.
Yeah, and they have Jamar Chase.
I feel like how many teams in the NFL are looking for either a number one
stud wide receiver or the guy at quarterback,
and they have them both, and they're both under 25.
Ty, what do you think of the Bengals?
Do you like them?
Yeah, very much so.
I do, too.
They're bringing in a bunch of tight ends, though.
They feel like they're weak in a tight end position.
Joe Mixon, no one really talks about him that much.
He's very good.
They put a bunch of money into the offensive line.
McPherson, too.
It seems like close games, especially.
He's going to make kicks.
Exactly.
There's a lot to like about the Bengals.
Huber won that kicking competition at Baby Cowboys.
They brought someone in to compete?
Yeah.
I think Drew Chrisman, the guy from –
Ohio State.
Yeah.
I think he was in it.
I don't know if it was real competition or not.
I don't know if there was another kicker other than Drew Chrisman,
but I think there was, and I think it was Drew Chrisman,
who I'm a fan of as a human and as a content creator
and everything that he does.
But I was pulling for Huber hard there.
I love Huber.
He's awesome. Me too. Huber Huber hard there. I love Huber. He's awesome.
Me too.
Huber is my draft class.
He played at Cincinnati.
I played at West Virginia, obviously at big e-schools.
He and I got to know each other through that.
I talked to him one warm-ups.
I was like, we're just kind of getting to know each other at West Virginia.
And we had a game.
It was probably a primetime game.
I had a guest.
Cincinnati was good.
They had Brian Kelly.
And he goes, when did you start kicking or whatever?
And I just had started punting, I think, for West Virginia.
It just happened midseason.
And I told him, like, oh, yeah, I started punting, like, actually,
two weeks ago.
Like, actually, this rollout style, like, probably two weeks ago.
I was like, when did you start?
He was like, when I was 14, I started punting.
I'm like, well, what an advantage.
All right, I'm going to watch this guy.
Like, I watched Huber, and I, like and I got better because I watched fucking Kevin Huber,
even though he was a lefty.
And then I got a chance, obviously, at the Pro Bowl.
We were there at the same time, hang out with him,
had some drinks with him.
I fucking love that guy.
I'm a big Kevin Huber fan.
Went to high school in Cincy, college in Cincy.
Has been a bangle now for what, fucking 12 years, 13 years.
What a legend that dude is.
Lefty.
The old lefty punter.
The old Bill Belichick trick, right?
Yeah, old Bill Belichick trick.
He kind of stopped doing that.
Now he's got Jake Bailey because whenever he was doing it,
there was only one or two in the entire NFL.
Now it's like there's more so returners aren't startled
that the balls go in the other direction.
So Bill Belichick was like, all right, we don't have to just have lefties.
I'm about pissed off with people doing this.
Yeah, like Ryan Allen.
If you can hear a little sense out of my voice because I said like,
oh, Brett Kern's going to go Buffalo.
Brett Kern fucking like one of the greatest punters of all time,
and everybody's like, Brandon Bean only takes left foot at punters.
I'm like, Brandon Bean has a brain.
Okay, I'm assuming that is not how this is going to go,
but that was a thing with bill for a
long time because there was only like one or two yeah so whenever you would show up it was an extra
thing that the other team had to prepare for just one more thing that the team that was playing
against patriots had to think about had to bring in a guy but now it's like much more common
situation so i think that's why it has kind of died off a little bit yeah it's like 10 15 years
and then in the super bowl against the Rams, it kind of was like Ryan Allen
versus Johnny Hecker. And then the year
after that, after Ryan Allen had like
three punts of 60 yards
in the Super Bowl, a couple of them obviously
rolled and got the right bounce. Doesn't matter!
No yard left behind. Still in the
books, but then Jake Bailey came in and
beat him out. And Bailey was, it feels like
the first right-footed
punter since 2008 or something.
He bombs fucking balls.
Crushes them.
This guy doesn't leave the ground either.
I don't understand it.
I don't understand how he does it.
How do you do that?
I don't know.
He's a beast.
Anywhere for the Brantley Clash.
For the Brantley Clash.
I forgot about that.
Stanford, good dude, kills the ball, though.
So much fun.
So much fun to watch him kick a ball.
But Sam Martin ends up getting that
job with buffalo bills he's a righty so we're back in the game i guess buffalo righties are
allowed to punt in buffalo new york let's go to the phones we're supposed to do that 22 minutes
ago what was old buddy doing when he punted the ball 25 yards down the field in the college game
a south carolina state guy he's awesome yeah that tweet that tweet of them saying what was this and I quote you it
was awesome like hey listen I don't know it was certainly not legal you're not allowed to punt
the ball past the line of scrimmage which uh he will learn that lesson in a big way last night
but I guess he converted on a fourth and eight earlier in the drive that same drive with the
same thing we saw this come last year he was running all the way up to
the line whether or not he decided or thought he could make a first down he would punt late
it was awesome to watch and he that's where Shaq Leonard went to school so I posted about him then
Shaq Leonard hit me up he's like hey this dude's awesome great athlete obviously great punter a
good guy so I remember this guy from last year. I'm happy on their opening night. He decided to fucking say, hey, those who thought that I maybe had slowed down,
I have not.
I have sped up.
Him running eight yards down the field on a fourth and 18 and murdering a ball
and it not getting blocked, I think, is incredibly impressive.
But against the rules, which is a damn shame, we should see more of that, AJ.
Do you think guys were even trying to block it?
They were trying to attack.
This dude, he can't punt the ball down here.
Well, this is kind of like whenever a quarterback pump fakes seven yards down the field.
James.
And gets everybody kind of jumpy used to get him.
I wonder if he'll start fake punting.
He should.
He should.
He should.
I don't know how often it's going to work against other guys that have a scheme to block said type of punt.
But I think that dude's athletic enough to do whatever the fuck he wants.
I love him.
I think he wore a hoodie under his pants last year.
I fucking love him.
I forget his name.
I should know his name.
But I fucking love that guy. A little stuff like that, is like which i forgot about is like why college football is awesome because you
know you've never seen that the nfl obviously but it is nice like some of these smaller schools
seeing it i'm excited for this weekend so in college and on a punt everybody and i've said this numerous times, so I don't want to sound repetitive.
Like a mark?
All right, we're going to shut up.
Repetitive is the right thing.
Okay.
Not like a fucking mark.
Jeez.
Okay?
I apologize that AJ even said that before I'm about to.
I apologize to the information I'm about to say.
Okay.
Because AJ shouldn't have said that before the said information gets said.
So in college, the punting rules are different than the NFL rules.
That is why you see a lot of the rollout punts,
like the guy from Pitt last night who just hung on to that rock
as long as he possibly could.
Did not see, I think he did not see or expect old buddy to come late.
C.J. Donaldson Jr., I believe, was the one who did the block.
Same number.
He was number 12.
Same number.
Don't know if it was him or not.
If it is, the guy might win a fucking Heisman.
Sure.
He's an unbelievable freshman or running back for West Virginia as a guy.
I think he's playing special teams as well.
But that punter was holding onto the ball as long as possible
because in college, everybody is allowed to cover the punt,
leave, and go past the line of scrimmage before
the ball is kicked. So the longer you delay by going to the right, the longer you can kind of
extend your motion, the further down the field your coverage team can get, which means what? No
return at all. If they're going to catch it, it'll be a fair catch. And if it gets on the ground,
they're not going to catch it because there's literally four guys normally right around it.
So it's a return killer, basically, taking your time and doing this.
He did not see old buddy come off late.
This is an Aussie rules thing that has been adapted into American football.
We called it rugby for a long time because we didn't know that Australian rules football existed.
And we didn't know because the commentators kept calling it a rugby kick.
It's actually an Aussie rules kick.
And Aussies
are the reason why it has come into the American game for so much. Now, the reason why there's so
many more Aussies in college than there is in the NFL is there's only 32 jobs, obviously,
but there's a very different style of punting needed for the NFL because only two people
are allowed to leave the line of scrimmage before the ball is punted, and those two people are the
furthest outside guys, the ones on each side. Those are the only two that are allowed to leave the line of scrimmage before the ball is punted. And those two people are the furthest outside guys, the ones on each side.
Those are the only two that are allowed to leave the line of scrimmage.
That's why whenever you see a double team on the Gunners, it's such a big deal
because those two are the only motherfuckers that are allowed to cover before the ball is kicked,
which probably takes about two seconds from snap to kick.
So you have to have a much higher ball a much bigger hang time or you got
to have a gunner that's a fucking dog and if you do you try to keep that guy around for as long as
you can a la slater in new england and a couple others around the nfl bethel as well uh who was
miami miami dolphin now formerly the cardinals and the patriots so that is why you see the rollout
punt in college and you don't see it really in the ninals and the Patriots. So that is why you see the rollout punt in college
and you don't see it really in the NFL
because the rules are built for that to have a much higher success rate in college
with your coverage team getting down the field than it is in the NFL.
And I will take my professor cap off and leave it right at that, AJ.
Do you think, though, because –
do you think the college game could change to the NFL rules on punt
because they want more returns because those are very exciting for
people and we don't really get to see that much?
That would be an easy rule to change.
Because they wouldn't be doing that
Aussie punt anymore then.
I did a couple
semi-Aussies in the NFL.
A couple rollouts.
I hit one against Green Bay that might still be
going.
I mean, I fucking murdered.
I think it was a penalty.
No, roughing the punter afterwards.
Hell yeah.
Because you're allowed to rough the punter.
Because if I act like I'm going to run, I am a runner, not a punter.
So, like, that's another reason why the NFL can't really. We can hit the punter, but you can't hit him late, like, after he lets it go, though.
Yes, that's what happened.
So I punted.
I was running.
I punted, I think, if I do recall.
And it was the former Illinois coach that was a special.
Ron Zook.
It was Ron Zook for the Green Bay Packers.
They did a pool shoot.
They did a fucking – they cheated.
They did a pool shoot, and the guy hit me, I think, late.
So Tom McMahon's dad – or Mitt's dad, Tom, was not happy.
I mean, you're talking motherfucking across the field to the Zooka.
I think they had settled their differences since then.
But I think I did it once against Green Bay.
I did it once against Denver.
I didn't hit it well at all.
We tried it a couple times because in college,
I got to the point where I could do that,
and then I would hit this missile, like this low missile,
that it was sick.
It was sweet.
Yeah, I've hit a couple of them that are probably still going.
I hit one at UPMC whenever I was very hungover in some off season.
There was a Coles kicking camp happening at UPMC Training Center in Pittsburgh.
And we had destroyed the south side the night before.
And I was asked to come speak to these kickers, punters that were at this camp,
and I should not have been speaking to anybody, so I showed up late.
I did not.
I did not want to speak to them.
I gave a couple high fives, but I started fucking around kicking some balls,
and I hadn't hit a rugby ball in some time,
or an Aussie rule ball, sorry, sometimes.
So I rolled out to the right a little bit, and I hit that thing cleaner
than I've ever hit a ball in my life.
It hit the top of the fucking UPMC building
and it sounded like an actual bomb
went off. Everybody stopped.
Everybody in the building stopped.
It was the drunk guy in the middle of the field.
Sorry. Then I just walked
away. I think I was in jorts.
I think I was wearing jorts at the time.
That's why we did it the next season.
I was like, hey, Tom, I think we should think about this.
Because Tom's like, if you can hit a ball 75 yards in the air,
we should do that.
We should figure out how to block.
We should try to block for that.
But I couldn't get it as consistent enough.
And with the NFL blocking, guys running like four fours, being like 6'5",
there was no real comfort.
There was no real comfort in me not getting killed doing it every time.
That's pretty sweet, though.
Yeah, it was.
We tried.
The option of it.
We tried.
We tried our best.
We did against Miami, too, down in Miami,
that same game that Charlie Whitehurst blew his hamstring out.
Oh, yeah.
We moved tackle over.
We even went tackle over.
So it looked like a college lineup, too.
And I was just going to be,
I was just going to hit it as far as I fucking
could. It was like, hey, it was the last
game of the season, I think. It was the last game of the season
so it was like, let's fucking try some
shit for next year. Let's see what we can do.
And I don't think, I think I caught one of them.
I think one of them almost got blocked.
The other coach knew what we were doing. He was a former
Rutgers guy. Former Rutgers coach.
So he knew exactly what we were doing. He brought the guy off the far end. Shiano? Shiano, my coach's No, it wasn't Sh doing. He was a former Rutgers guy, former Rutgers coach, so he knew exactly what we were doing.
He brought the guy off the far end. Shiano?
Shiano, my coach's name.
No, it wasn't Shiano.
He was at Rutgers.
The guy was a special teams guy.
I knew him from Rutgers.
When I was at West Virginia, he was at Rutgers.
Then he was Miami Dolphins special teams coordinator.
So after the game, there was a fool, hey, look like college again.
I was like, yeah, you're a fucking guy on the screen.
Took my leg off.
Because they knew to bring the backside like a backside sprinter is how you
fucking just murder that because punter can't see it and that guy probably not getting blocked
because everybody's blocking front side so everybody's kind of motioning right so the back
left is where you are and you're only going to roll to the right too because you're not going
to punt rolling left right unless you're a lefty then obviously are. And you're only going to roll to the right, too, because you're not going to punt rolling left, right?
Unless you're a lefty, then obviously reverse it.
Then you obviously reverse it.
And that's why they're like, oh, this guy can punt with both feet.
It's like, it doesn't matter.
People will know immediately upon.
It's great.
It's very athletic.
But I don't think it's really changing the game at all.
Darren Rizzi, I believe is his name, was that Rutgers special teams coach
and Dolphins special teams coach.
Yeah, that's him.
That's the guy.
Good guy.
I mean, we had great conversations throughout my time in college and in the NFL, but he almost fucking ruined it.
Hey, Con, the Patriots old special teams legend.
He was coaching.
Is he still coaching?
Oh.
Old special teams legend.
Oh.
Back in the day.
Like, he was there when early.
He probably has two or three rings.
He's very famous.
He's awesome.
Vinny talks about him. He's not there anymore. I know that. He's the godfather of this whole special teams thing. He probably has two or three rings. He's very famous. He's awesome. Vinny talks about him.
He's not there anymore.
I know that.
He's the godfather of this whole special teams thing.
He was with the Giants for a little bit.
He was coaching us.
He was with Belichick for a while then.
Yeah, he was.
Giants, probably Cleveland.
But, no, they kept the same special teams coordinator that replaced Joe Judge when he left.
And that's why Joe Judge is the QB coach.
Joe Judge.
We had an onside kick on him.
They fucked us.
He's a dog when it comes to special teams.
He's very good, yeah.
He was also on the fucking field.
Is he coaching special teams for the Patriots too?
No, they kept the same guy.
I forget what college.
He's probably running cards or some shit.
He's got to be helping, right?
Yeah, the guy who's the special teams coordinator now was like his protege
when Judge was with the Patriots.
And they had a very good special teams after Judge left.
They were the number, I think they were the number one special teams unit in 2019.
Brad Seeley.
I'm thinking Izzo from back in the day.
Really?
I don't know.
Izzo, he was a special teamer with the Patriots, and then he's been coached.
I don't know why I thought.
He was one of my favorite players.
How about fucking Bubba Ventron, dude?
Yeah. I mean, he's been coached. I don't know why I thought – he was one of my favorite players. How about fucking Bubba Ventrone, dude? Yeah.
I mean, he's –
What about him?
Jim Irsay, one of his first answers or one of the first things he said
whenever we talked about the team that they had last year versus this year,
he was like, I had to look around and see what we had the best of.
We had the best running back.
We had the best offensive line.
We had the best special teams coordinator, Bubba Ventrone.
Like, said his name.
I was like, God damn.
Bubba's a Pittsburgh guy.
Played, I think he played for the Steelers for a bit.
He was with the Patriots most of the time, though.
I think he ended with the Steelers back at home, I think.
His brother might have played as well.
But I told Bubba as soon as I saw him, I'm like, hey, man.
Ursae's first answer today, basically, was that you're the fucking best special teams coordinator in the NFL.
So, I mean, I know you're not a businessman.
You just want to kind of do the job and do the job right.
It's a fucking great clip to have just going forward as a fellow Pittsburgh guy.
Yeah, mention him being a head coach.
Yeah.
Not just like a good special teams coordinator, like some guy that will continue to rise the ranks.
Pittsburgh guy.
Did Joe Judge hurt that, though, for special teams guys getting head coaching gigs?
Oh, Harbaugh.
Harbaugh.
Harbaugh's still a guy.
That's right.
Harbaugh's still a guy.
Harbaugh's still a guy.
I think Darren Simmons could do it, too.
Cincinnati special teams coach.
He's interviewed for some head gigs.
I love that man.
Why is he all – he's just because he's such a good special teams coordinator?
They just keep him around and he never wants to leave?
Yeah, honestly, he's awesome.
I told you.
I told him day one
first meeting i'm like hey man like this is my 10th year i've learned a lot just sitting in this
meeting like you yeah he just has a great rapport he knows how to handle guys he works works his
balls off i don't know maybe he will actually get a head coaching job at some point he's been like
three four head coaches though right yeah oh yeah he's been there for a long time yeah and he looks
like he's you know 35 he's got this for a long time. Yeah, and he looks like he's, you know, 35. He's got this fucking visor on.
He really –
He goes crazy every game.
Like, yeah, he's –
Danny Smith could be a coach.
Who's that?
Danny Smith.
We hope.
I mean –
I fucking hope they let Danny Smith be a head coach.
The Steelers special teams coordinator.
Absolutely.
Hey, Danny.
Danny's going to be shown this by numerous people,
whether it's his kids or people around the building.
Hey, Danny, why don't you chew some fucking gum
and go get some head coaching interviews?
Okay, let's go, pal.
What do you say?
And don't forget about Richie Passaccia.
I was going to say,
do you think that he'll get another head coaching opportunity?
I did forget about Richie Passaccia.
If he can fix the Packers special teams.
That's going to be a tall task.
Yeah, bingo.
But I think everybody loves that fucking guy, right?
Everybody loves that guy.
That's what it takes.
Special teams coordinators, and this is always chatted about,
when Rich Passaccia was named the interim head coach,
the first, the talking point for everybody that has ever been in the NFL
was like, well, special teams coach has talked to the whole team.
Offense talks to the offense mostly.
Defense talks to defense mostly.
The special teams coordinator has got to reach every single room.
And even the big guys because field goal unit and field goal block.
That is the talking point, but it's real.
They have to be able to relate to so many motherfuckers.
There are so many different motherfuckers playing in the NFL at different positions.
From corner to offensive linemen, special teams coordinators have to be able to relate to
and reach and get to buy in on something that none of them like.
So I think more special teams coordinators would be good head coaches,
but it's going to take a couple of the top guys to really get that opportunity
to prove it, I think.
Yeah, it is.
I mean, you laid it out perfectly.
They do.
They have to hold guys accountable.
They have to be there and make them care about something that is secondary
to most every player.
Like, hey, no, I'm supposed to be a starter, man.
I'm supposed to be on the field.
I'm supposed to be a corner or wideout, whatever. on the field i'm supposed to be a corner or wide out whatever and the coach said yeah you're
supposed to bud but this is where you're gonna this is the only way you're getting on the field
is if you show that you can play on special teams here i know you haven't done it in a while
but you got to buy in and do it and it's cool to see when they actually do it you see guys that
maybe like we're like oh come on man i'm not i'm above that you know guys come in sometimes and
think they're above special teams and then seeing them buy in, understand the process,
and respect the coach and the whole thing.
I'm like, all right, it's cool, man.
It's a tough gig, though, to get somebody that doesn't want to be there
to eventually, like, start playing very well on special teams.
And has never played it before.
It's a different world.
Yeah, it's a different sport.
Not only do they not want to be there, they've never played it before,
but the coach has to somehow give them a conversation in a proper laid out fashion how some guys very direct some guys
make things a joke and like the hard stuff make it a little bit joke let's bypass that some guys
have different ways to make people realize like hey this is your life but it is a difficult thing
to say hey you are a starting linebacker in Dwayne Johnson's league. Okay.
In this league, you're a left guard on the punt team.
So that message with getting that person to buy in and then teaching them.
They have to teach them fundamentals like going back to having a,
how do you do a three-point stance?
How do you do that?
That's what people have to do. They have to teach fucking adults that are good enough to make it to the NFL
and other positions how to do a new job.
All right, you need to do a pass set, basically.
Stay right on the fucking line.
What do you mean?
Like, yeah, kick your leg.
Yeah, yeah, you're close there.
And guys are like, I backpedaled before.
I've done this before.
I've never had to fucking kick.
Okay, yeah, and if you take one, like one wrong step,
we're going to pump block and we lose the game on you.
You don't have a job at all.
Okay, this is great.
Yeah, and also get a hand up.
And if a twister comes, you've got to get them.
I've never done any of this before.
We know, yeah, we've got to give them two days, figure the fuck out, okay?
Like that is what special teams is.
I don't know how it doesn't become a fucking explosion more, you know?
Also, though, that guy that you just that that coach
taught him to kick slide and do all that okay let's say you go into the game first quarter
that guy whoever's starting that guy's position gets hurt he gets bumped in the starting lineup
this guy comes off a punt team i gotta coach up some other kid put him in a guard who's probably
never done it well not only that the guy that was trying to learn how to fucking punt set did zero
studying for the game but now he has
to run punt reps kickoff reps and now he's on the defense that he did not because he's begging to
get off something man coach just get me off kickoff at least something i'll do a punt i'll do a punt
i'll do one punt i'll do one pump for you jack doyle was the fucking best man jack doyle is my
favorite story because we picked him up he got released by the titans he's a local guy here
he comes in he's a tight end didn't really talk to anybody just super quiet hard-working guy
but day one he was good at everything like tight end he was running the right routes he was doing
everything right special teams he was just doing his thing and he made his team being like my left
wing or whatever pretty big job especially because most of my punts going this way even my punts to
the left so he's on the back side of that I needed.
He's got this big beard, good guy.
We have a good rapport.
And then he started playing on offense a lot more because he wasn't, and they didn't take him off.
And he's not the type of guy that would bitch at all to get off.
So it's almost like he was certainly taken advantage of,
but we knew he'd do his job.
Him openly coming up to me being like,
hey, let's get this one off quick and like while i'm
jogging on the field like hey this one i'm not covering it and we need to get this one
i got you dude hey i got you dude yeah like that was uh it would like i would like laugh like in
his face almost while he's fucking full on dying and you know you watch the film back obviously
jack locked his guy up. Jack got his coverage
lane, like he did his whole thing. But that's
literally his thoughts before a punt, like
oh my god, everything
I've done means nothing if I fucking give up
a block right now. If I give up a block right now,
nobody will remember anything that I fucking did.
It's a nightmare. I don't know how it is
in a bigger fuck up every single game.
In the NFL, in college, in anything.
Because the amount of moving
pieces it's just any play could be the fucking end of it honestly well that's like how common
is it for like the packers who like they've their special teams has kind of been like the hey you
can't let this be the reason you lose a game late for like can that even change like you even if you
hire rich passaccia like can that change you think so yeah because the little things right it's all
absolutely can change yeah and it's a whole new, right? It's all the little things. Absolutely can change, I think.
And it's a whole new mindset.
You just got to get people to buy in that they're doing it.
So I don't know what the culture is about special teams around that building.
I assume it's been very negative for a long time.
Rich Passaccia, from what everybody said, is a guy everybody rallies around and loves.
So if he's the leader of the group, I think you can change it.
I think you can.
Don't you, AJ?
100%.
And those guys are super detail
oriented. The great special teams coaches, like I said, Darren, Keith Armstrong, who's down in
Tampa Bay now, I think is a special teams genius. He's had some head coaching interviews as well.
They're so detail oriented. And just how they set things up, I'm like, oh, this makes so much
sense now. You're not killing us. But I understand completely, hey, if I'm running down on kickoff
and I see him setting up this way, I know this return is going this way.
Okay, they're setting up like that.
The return is going up the middle.
They teach little things like that to get guys to understand what's happening.
It's like the psychology almost of it.
Yeah, why?
Okay, what's happening?
I think they do a good job breaking it down.
Okay, they got three returns.
If you see this in front of you, you attack his face.
If you see him double, you split him.
If you see this, you got to go on his left side
because you know they're trying to cut you off to get to that side of the field.
I think just like any coaching, you explain the why people will buy in a lot more.
You explain why we're doing what we're doing.
Hey, this person is going to flash you.
They're going to flashball you.
They're going to think you're going to think they're hitting you.
They're flashing you.
And then they're going to go and de-cleat this guy right over here.
Your guy, one of our other guys.
So when he comes to flash you, need you to chip him.
Okay.
Need you to chip that guy because he's going to go fucking kill our person over there.
And if he does that, get look at the fucking, huh?
You see the lane that happens here.
It's like that type of stuff is what i think makes you
better makes you worse and if you can get people to buy into those things i think we had the fourth
down army for a bit and it was like people i think our squad like enjoyed going out and took pride
take pride in it yeah yeah we were fucking really good i was really lucky to be surrounded by
incredible guys we had a core unit of like six guys that were
backup safety backup running back backup linebacker tight end and it was like we don't know what's
going to happen on the offensive defense side of the ball but we know in our particular unit we are
going to beat the fuck out of people and we did we didn't give up a return yard for like 13 weeks
14 weeks or something like that but every single week it was like a celebration though but you had
the same guys though right like that's yes that's how at ohio state coach trestle says
from day one punt the most important play in football i played left wing for four straight
years at ohio state in the old school pocket kick slide stay on the hip and my freshman year i'm
sitting out there playing left wing and we went 14-0 won the national championship somehow and
we had a lot of very close games i'm'm like, I probably should not have been there.
Like, that's a tough spot.
If I take one extra kick slide, I don't stay on the hip,
who at the time was Matt Wilhelm,
All-American middle linebacker playing tackle right there that year.
If I get off his hip, they go right there.
That's a great little lane for them to run and block this punt.
We may not win a national championship.
Like, I was like, I don't know.
I'm glad I didn't think about that in the moment.
How about this?
Yes, I look back on a lot of shifts.
And I'm like, man, I'm so nervous oh my god how nervous i had to be so how did i do that you by the way thanks for buying into fucking special yeah i loved it i took pride
we took a lot of pride in like our kick slide i'm like man okay i'll be with you man i promise you
i will not leave your hip that's all just don't leave your guy don't leave your guy out to dry
and stay with you they can't block it because they're not fast enough to go over the edge
and get a block.
So your discipline that you maintained through your entire life,
back in the day it used to be your discipline of talking, right?
He was a mute.
That's right.
Now your discipline in your meal and your workout and your robotic days.
But you never, in that national championship against the U, right?
Yeah.
So I'm assuming there were some dogs coming off the edge.
Pretty good athletes, yeah.
You fall for one, and you just kick out like this,
and he hits you with an up and under, bang.
I think the stats were like block kick.
If you block a kick, you win like 82% of the games or something like that.
It makes me kind of nervous actually thinking going back,
put myself in that game.
I don't know how anybody does it because if I'm kicking
and a guy gives me one, I'm like, oh, I'm going to go get it. And then it's literally the game is over. You lost that game. That's what I'm saying, dude. I don't know how anybody does it because if I'm kicking it, a guy gives me one.
I'm like, oh, I'm going to go get it.
And then it's literally the game's over.
You lost the game.
You just lost the game.
Thank you for coming.
Hope you've enjoyed your football life.
You just lost the game.
That is kind of how it is viewed and kind of the outcome of it.
And it's so minute and you have to buy in.
I think it can be changed is what we're saying.
We think it can be changed.
And Basacha feels like the guy.
Yeah, he's got a PhD.
All right, let's go to the phone line.
We're supposed to do this 46 minutes ago.
Good conversation on this field.
Special teams rant.
It was good because last night there was a lot of people,
why does this partner hold on?
Ball's so fucking long.
A lot of that.
It was like, well, he's probably told to hold onto the ball a little bit longer.
That's why they have him doing it.
That's his style.
I believe he's an Aussie.
It looks like he's an Aussie.
If not, he's American and does Aussie very well.
And I don't think he saw that guy coming.
It was a big moment.
Yeah, huge moment.
Blocked punt.
I'm like, oh, we won the game.
Yeah.
That was literally like, oh, we won the game.
Start the half.
And obviously on the other side of stats, unless it's 100 or nothing.
The stats are also not very good for winning the game.
Fucking Bryce Ford Wheaton.
I appreciate you're on the mountain here, because you're fucking really good.
And I know your grandpa, Coach Ford, Garrett Ford,
a senior they showed him at West Virginia running back.
He was a stallion of a man.
Bryce Ford Wheaton's coming back.
Yeah, for sure.
That was devastating.
Two tuds, big-time special team.
This guy's a fucking guy.
I think West Virginia can play.
You know what, though?
If you're going to get the ball 50 times a game like that kid's going to,
some shit's going to go wrong, Bryce.
Fucking eat it and move on, bub.
Don't you fucking worry about it.
Now, that running back, Donaldson, he's a dog.
He's a freshman.
Yeah.
6'2", 2-something.
Tight end, they said at the beginning.
And they were like, but they had some sort of inkling that he wasn't just playing tight end.
He's going to get the ball.
Yeah.
We should have kept feeding.
There was that fourth and couple inches in the fourth quarter.
50.
You know.
Oh, yeah.
Six minutes left.
Perfect punt afterwards.
You're playing against 17
in the country.
Rivalry. Yeah. On the road.
Your team is brand new. Literally,
your team is brand new. All the people that are making plays for you right
now, I mean, except for the
diehards that are living in Morgantown,
have no fucking idea who these guys are. Still
on defense. Dog. Love him. Thankful
he's back. But other than that, I didn't really
know who anybody was. I haven't
paid attention close enough.
You get that. I think you gotta go.
I think you gotta. Hey, everybody can
judge hindsight. I understand.
They go on. They pin them. They block that.
They do the thing. He's a genius.
That ends up not happening, but that was
the big conversation piece after the game was
what's the deal, bro?
Why don't we go full decision?
We got our entire offense lineback big conversation piece after the game was, what's the deal, bro? Why don't we go fourth and one?
It's like we got our entire offense line back,
and we got a new run back that's bigger, faster, stronger,
and everybody on the field.
He said after the game, he said if I was put back in that situation,
I'd do it again.
See, can't do that.
That's what we were talking about there earlier.
Allowed to learn.
Allowed to learn.
Allowed to learn from your mistakes.
Allowed to evolve with more information and knowledge.
So he knows how the outcome was, and he'd still go back and do it. I'd fucking do it again.
He can't do it.
Do it again today.
That's like me going, you know what?
I'll go back to 13-9, pull that one harder left.
You know, I'll pull that one harder left, the first one,
and then the second one, I'm hitting that right in the back of one of our
offensive linemen so hard that I actually injure him so it's worse.
That's what that is.
Why do you say that?
Why do you do that?
Coach Bryan.
Means he'll do it again next time, right?
But will there be another backyard brawl where nobody knows your team?
That's what I'm saying.
So, like, saying, why did he say, you want the pit, though?
Yeah.
True.
You also want to watch Virginia.
True.
Maybe that's what the book said to do.
Is that why, Nick? Did you listen to the full thing why i just saw a transcribe transcribe quote where he said you know put in that situation i'd do it
again okay it's hard trust climb neil if you say you go right back down to the campsite
i had a bear eating everybody okay i don't know why we trust the climb.
Once we get past it, you know, you just say, yeah, I'll go right back through that bear.
Because you know why?
Why's that?
Because his team's going to be hardened by this.
Hell yeah.
That's right.
So that's why he'd go back and get the same exact outcome.
His team's going to be hardened by this, and we're going to carry it through the rest of the season.
Still a lot of games to be played and a lot of growth to be had for this Mountaineer team.
That's why Neil Brown said, I trust the climb.
The fuck? Yeah, I don't know if that That's why Neil Brown said, I trust the climb. The fuck?
I don't know if that guy's ever reaching the summit, unfortunately.
What?
He had fire last night.
He just had fire yet?
He did.
He did.
You want to win that Thursday game, too.
As a college kid, that Thursday game, if you win, you get the whole weekend.
As a college student, you can go hang out.
Well, his first weekend in college, they're going to have a good time working regardless.
But you're right.
It would have been a much better vibes.
Yeah.
A lot easier to get into that good.
And all those insufferable pit Panthers.
Oh my God.
For the rest of the fucking year.
There was, you know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
You hate pit, huh?
I partied there.
I had a good time there, but yeah, I mean,
worst night of my life was because of that fucking school, you know?
So I will remember that.
See if a Phil is like a super pit mark he's fucking
disgusting did he go there yeah yeah his whole fucking family did no he's brainwashing his kids
into thinking there's no other school it's like hey little phil what do uncle pat gets old you're
around 14 15 years old he's a hockey player right stud he's a great athlete yeah so he's gonna be
he's gonna be in like alaska with a host family when he's 12.
Minnesota, probably.
But also, Phil is a hockey coach.
Oh, okay.
So, Phil, okay.
You know what I mean?
Can Phil skate backwards?
He can stop, too.
It's crazy.
He can spray ice?
I got to figure that out.
Like Mendoza.
Let's go to the phones. Louie. Like Mendoza. Let's go to the phones.
Yeah.
Louie.
Luis Mendoza, yeah.
Fastest guy you've ever seen, blue line to blue line.
Couldn't stop.
Yeah.
Then he could.
In the ice.
Yeah.
Took me a minute. There you go.
Mendoza.
Holy shit.
Good call.
I'm so proud of me right now.
Pretty good.
Thank you.
Let's go to the phones.
Thank you.
You guys have all had some good ones as well.
But that one felt really good right there.
Let's go to Andrew in Los Angeles.
Andrew, how's it going, pal?
Sorry.
Sorry we've been saying we're going to literally go to the phones for 51 minutes now.
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What do you want to talk about, Andrew, in Los Angeles?
How's the traffic?
Traffic's terrible, as always.
Hey, Pat.
How we doing?
Keep it moving.
Happy, feel-good Friday.
Ho, ho.
Love that.
Yeah.
There we go.
Andrew's a dog.
Yeah, he's a dog.
He's a dog.
Sounds like a little bit of an aggressive dog.
I'm a dog.
Hey, what do you want to talk about, dog?
Hey, I want to talk about my favorite team, lifelong fan.
Jerry Jones owned and operated Dallas Cowboys.
Usually when we have high expectations, we do pretty bad.
Like a couple years ago when A.J. Hawk had us in the Super Bowl,
we won like six games.
Then next quarter we got decapitated and nobody helped him up.
Anyways, we seem to have
low expectations. People on Hammer Don
and ESPN saying
the Eagle is going to win the division.
I just wanted to get your thoughts on that and follow-up
question. What do the boys think about Andrew Tate?
Thank you, Andrew. Andrew Tate's
the guy that got kicked off the internet?
Great question, Andrew.
Is that Andrew Tate? Could have been. It off the internet? Yeah. Great question, Andrew. Is that Andrew Tate?
Could have been. Could have been. Didn't sound like him, but could have been. I don't know who this person is, but
I would enjoy the fact if somebody
was getting kicked off the internet
that they decided to call into live shows
on the internet. That would be sweet. That would be cool.
That would be hilarious. That'd be an Alex Jones
move.
My name's
Carl.
Carl from Kansas.
We are so broke.
Just lying.
Yeah.
What a fucking menace.
Andrew Tate.
I don't know anything about him, though.
I seen he was kicked off the Internet.
I'm sure it'll work out.
You know, I don't.
I'm sure it'll work out.
What did he do?
I've seen a lot of his, like, whatever his rants.
What officially got him kicked off the internet?
Do we know?
So I don't even know what his rants are.
Is he a political guy?
Is he a pop culture guy?
Is he a sports guy?
I thought he was, like, a dance electronic guy.
He's a DJ?
I don't know if he is now.
He was a kickboxing champion.
He was a big no-man guy.
Very pro-man.
Yeah.
Oh, okay. Possession, ownership of of women stuff like that oh great so andrew in la wants to know what our thoughts are on andrew tate i guess
sounds like uh glowing reviews from the back room here about who he is sure the internet kicked him
off uh that's what i'm reading from headlines like i've never seen his content oh i'm sure
andrew tate be pissed that that was what the headline was.
Nonetheless, we don't fucking know who he is.
I don't know who he is.
I'm sure it'll all get worked out.
I'm sure it'll all end up great, too.
I'm sure there'll be no drama at all around it.
The kicked off the internet thing is interesting, though.
Yeah, you got to do a lot of stuff for that to happen.
Different guys are.
Some note guys got their YouTube, right, Steve?
Yeah, I think so.
He's trying to give back. Do they give it back, Steve? Yeah, I think so. Oh, shit.
He's trying to give back.
Do they give it back then?
How does that work?
I don't know.
I don't understand any of it because- Because that's a big deal for one of those guys to get your channel pulled.
Yes, for sure.
But just to be kicked off the internet, definitely a big deal to get your channel pulled.
Yes, we have gotten strikes from people that we thought were close to getting our shit pulled.
We do not enjoy that at all because YouTube, for all of its gripes that everybody has for them,
we've been able to operate as an independent show with zero.
We are very thankful.
So it would be huge for us.
And there's channels that are much, much, much, much, much, much, much larger
and obviously much better than ours that would depend upon it every single day
and their business and their life and everything like that.
But I don't know.
How do they just ban you from the internet?
That process doesn't even make any sense to me.
So is it your IP address?
It's just platforms, right?
No, I think, yeah.
Like Andrew Tate, I think it's like Instagram.
It's a lot of stuff.
I don't think it's just one.
So he cannot sign up for another account.
He cannot create a new email.
He cannot do anything to get another account.
The last time we saw this was Alex Jones.
And how did that work?
I still have no idea.
I just kind of went with,
oh, he's banned.
I remember Alex Jones tried to create
new accounts and they would just delete
it right away. Oh, so they're actively
seeking Andrew Tate's new accounts,
finding him. People would upload Alex Jones videos and you'd see it on youtube regardless but where were
his videos being showcased to anybody yet on his website so he wasn't banned from the internet no
just banned from social media yeah well you'll still find him in reels there'll be clips of him
on podcasts and different shows but somebody else posted it not him it was all other people i think
putting us on so that's what it means whenever you're kicked off the internet you're not able
to have a platform on these social media sites yeah you can still get access to the internet
and create your own website and everything like right okay so it's the next level shadow band
right yeah it's a super duper shadow shadow band yeah it's an actual band it's a super-duper shadow ban. It's a super-duper shadow ban. Yeah, it's an actual ban. It's not a shadow ban.
Nothing shadow.
It's a full ban.
Yeah, so it's a real shadow ban.
A ban ban.
The shadow ban, they just act like it didn't happen.
The actual ban, they come out and say it did happen.
Yeah, this is very real.
Okay, got it.
I've been shadow banned a couple times on a couple different platforms.
I wonder why.
I don't know.
Oh, I know why.
You used the word dude.
You did use the word dude.
Yeah, that was. Oh, yeah, that was on the NFL's
comments.
That was awesome. I wonder if Omar's
going to shadow ban me on the SportsCenter account.
If you use bruh enough, he might.
I'm starting to comment
on the SportsCenter Instagram a little bit.
I've been doing a lot of he is, isn't he
to Omar.
You know, Omar, SportsC, Bleacher Report, Checkdown.
What?
Yeah.
NFL.
You named it.
House of Highlights.
He's running them all.
You got Shadowband for saying dude?
That's what they said.
Yeah, hate speech.
That's hate speech?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then, yeah.
I mean, that was the whole thing.
Remember, I told the NFL social media person I was ready.
We didn't have a deal done with NFL films at that time.
We were talking.
I was willing to sacrifice it to take a stand, though.
There's no reason for me to be banned from the NFL comments.
So I just made a statement to the NFL social media person
that they've done fucking nothing for the league.
You've been handed something, and shut the fuck up, basically.
If you want to
ban me somebody that played in there covers it every fucking day like i don't i don't comment
ever so like that's why i didn't find out that i'd been you know shadow banned there was something
with matt ryan happening i'm like i want everybody to know that i'm fucking on board with this guy
i want everybody to know first time i was actually excited to comment because i guess this is what
people do on instagram i don't do enough of it.
Like commenting is how, you know, it's like a good time on there, I guess.
I never fucking do it.
I do it one time.
Can't even see it.
Zero likes.
So I got upset.
And then turned out the NFL told me it wasn't a social media person.
So I had to take back.
I didn't.
I didn't.
I didn't.
I don't.
I still don't.
I don't take it back. Fuck you, person that banned me. Yeah, you shouldn't. Yeah didn't. I didn't. I don't. I still don't. I don't take it back.
Fuck you, person that banned me.
Yeah, you shouldn't.
Yeah, because you definitely did.
They told the people that don't understand the platforms that, oh, something must have
happened, but they certainly did.
And there's no reason to do so.
Other than just being a fucking punk, I think.
Can't do it.
Can't do it.
That's these social media degrees.
They're getting jobs.
People like having power, man.
They do. It's little That's these social media degrees. They're getting jobs. People like having power, man. They do.
It's little yellow coats running the social media.
Exactly.
It's little yellow jackets.
Fucking hate them.
You know the security people?
Like concerts?
Way low security.
They have all the power.
Oh, yeah.
They do have a lot of power.
They do not.
They do not.
I will drive right the fuck by.
Not even.
I'm not even entertaining a convo right now with you.
I do not have time.
They don't have the direction.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
I'm a bad person.
They're just trying to do their job.
I get it.
I get it.
I get it.
Student drivers, I also give them a run around.
Let them know shit ain't sweet out here.
You know how you welcome to the streets.
That's a good learning experience.
You should do that. If you do not beep your horn at least once at a student driver you are not making the course
hard enough they are coming into our roads sure you're right okay prepare them exactly cut them
off too oh yeah yeah you can't do anything that would require them to be a good driver for you not to get hit.
So do with that as you may.
Yeah, egg their car.
They're going 50 on it.
No, you'll egg the student driver car.
That's being owned by somebody who's making no money sitting there with these people.
That'd be such a tough job.
What if you were the instructor?
I had four.
They were called on-roads.
I don't know what you guys called them.
They were four hours at a time where I would drive a dude around.
Yep, and that guy fell asleep? I would have. No, he didn't. I don't know how. Do you them. They were four hours at a time where I would drive a dude around. Yep. And that guy fell asleep?
I would have.
No, he didn't.
I don't know how.
Did your guys' car have the brake pedal?
Like the passenger brake pedal?
Yeah, the student driver one, yeah.
I think it has to.
It has to.
Yeah.
Ours didn't.
Chicago's living dangerously.
Ours didn't either.
We could drive our own car, too, for our own roads.
Really?
Yeah.
I don't remember.
I think it was my teacher's car.
Our guy definitely had the break
Couldn't do it
My guy fell asleep
Just sleeping
I wish my guy would have fell asleep
Yeah my guy was one of our front row coaches
So we just drove around
And hung out
Yep
Drank beers
Packed in
We drove around
He fell asleep
Like two or three
Like you had to stay underneath the limit
But then
Yeah
Was there direction though Before he fell asleep Like go to this spot uh yeah we just went to like
some dairy queen or something but yeah parking lot yeah he was great he was probably the best
his best two driver ever had this dude's great no offense mr kerns r.P. Who? Do not say that. Come on. She's not dead.
No, no, no.
Really?
I think so.
Is that the lady that got bit by the chimp?
No.
That's Mrs. Brooke, dude.
That's Mrs. Brooke.
Yeah, go Mustangs.
Come on.
Yeah, go Mustangs.
Go Mustangs, dude.
We got the Foxes tonight.
Fox Chapel.
The yuppies taking on the Mustangs.
Let's go.
Rivalry week.
Let's go, Mustangs.
Every week's rivalry.
We got chips on our sword against everybody.
Exactly.
Is it purple and gold?
Is that your colors?
Damn right.
Shut up, Connor.
Stangs up, baby.
Connor, you went to four high schools.
None of them were plump.
One of them was plump in my heart.
Let's get a couple phone calls.
I think I saw Connor wearing a varsity jacket the other day.
I did have my varsity letter on.
Let's go to Nick in Texas. Nick, what's going on,
pal? Nothing much,
Pat. I was just curious because
they were starting to make kickoffs
to the one-yard line. They did it
last night in the West Virginia game, but they're
doing it in the NFL. I'm curious if they're
going to continue to do that, and what's your thoughts on it?
College, it's just
the fair catch thing changed everything. If you get the ball in the air down the field it's going to end up at the 25
so i think that's what a lot of people are doing i don't know why the balls aren't getting smashed
out in the nfl they're just right now they're trying to see who can cover who can't you'll
see teams just blast it through the end zone every time i mean that is just something people do it
depends on how your special teams unit is we're just talking about it if you If you've got a good group, you want to go ahead and tackle them.
You want to go ahead and try to pin them.
If you don't, hey, let's give them a ball at 20, 25, whatever it is.
Let's move on.
That's kind of how it goes.
Is that what you want Mason to do, huh?
Yeah.
I mean, hey, whatever it takes.
Yeah, exactly.
Fucking giving up six, seven return touchdowns a year.
It's not always easy just to blast the ball through the end zone, by the way.
No, no. Sometimes you can't with the wind. There are some stadiums, yeah, where it touchdowns a year. It's not always easy just to blast the ball through the end zone, by the way. No, no.
Sometimes you can't with the wind, yeah.
There are some stadiums, yeah, where it gets a little difficult.
And I'll never forget a couple guys, a kickoff team who also played defense
and were just kind of playing a lot of plays.
Let's say kickoff fourth quarter or so, middle of the quarter.
We're up, let's say, 10 at the time.
Pretty big defensive drive coming up.
Hey, need a touchback here, Pat.
Walking by.
Need a touchback here.
Okay?
Let's not do anything crazy.
I mean, yeah, you got it, Pat.
We're going right into about 10, 15 miles.
Hey, I got a full drive coming up next, Pat.
Need a touchdown.
Just kind of walking off.
It's like a real.
You got about 10 plays coming up, and I'm going to be already deathly winded
if you
put this thing at the three full sprint full force all-out effort hold your lane get double
team probably and then run into a car crash and then they're spotting a ball you got to get back
up and let's fucking go rush the past as soon as you get up though at the offense is sprinting
onto the field too like that that seems to happen when you're in that situation where
all of a sudden the offense is real antsy
and they want to get to the line as fast as they can.
Can we slow this down a little bit?
Hey, hell of a week.
We can't thank you all enough.
Big thanks to Stephon Diggs, Aaron Rodgers,
obviously A.J. Hawk, you're the best,
Darius Butler in studio all week.
Can't wait to get the regular season started.
Aaron Rodgers Tuesday was announced
for an unprecedented season three today.
It was a hell of a Friday.
You guys got hammered down
today? Yeah, I'm a piss real quick. We got picks
Friday, giving out all the picks for the weekend.
Thank you for that. Talks to the table. Great job
this week. Everybody in the back, fantastic.
Ty, your Lou Holtz was really
the highlight of the week, buddy. I appreciate you.
Ty, I got texts from random people
I hadn't heard from in a long
time about Lou Holtz, so Ty, you should be
proud. Hell yeah.
Universally beloved.
James Franklin saw it.
In a world full of fickle fans.
That felt to be universally loved.
So I want to say thank you for allowing us to be a part of it.
You bet.
Thanks for letting me do it.
We'll see you guys on Tuesday.
We're off Monday.
Oh, we're lazy.
It's Labor Day.
Golly.
All right, see you Tuesday.
It's football week. Hell yeah! Have a, see you Tuesday. It's football week.
Have a great weekend.
I appreciate you all so much.
Goodbye.
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