The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 732 - Feel Good Friday With Aaron Rodgers, Stefon Diggs, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: September 2, 2022

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about last night's great college football games, how excited they are to have football back, the importance of special teams, and how miserable it is p...laying in the cold, and everything else happening around the NFL, as we approach the start of week 1. Joining the progrum is 4x NFL MVP, Super Bowl Champion/MVP, the proprietor of the Aaron Rodgers Book Club, friend of the show, Aaron Rodgers to chat about his last few months, having a new perspective on his career, his journey with Ayahuasca, his thoughts on the upcoming season, his announcement of season 3 of Aaron Rodgers Tuesday's being renewed, and much more (3:27-57:13). Later, 2x Pro Bowler, All-Pro, one of the best receivers in the NFL, Buffalo Bills star, Stefon Diggs joins the show to chat about how training camp has been, if things feel different in Buffalo, Josh Allen continuing to get better, Von Miller disrupting practice, and much more (1:10:05-1:26:13). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello beautiful people. It is feel good Friday, September 2nd, 2022. And this sports show shall commence immediately following this beat drop from Twine. There it was. Here we go. Let's have a show. Football is all the way back. College football delivered in a massive fashion last night. Obviously Penn State with a thriller late drives down the field in West Lafayette, Indiana, and gets a win over Purdue. Even though I was already sending out texts to all my friends that went to Penn State, letting them know, Oh, no, you guys stink. James Franklin can't coach his way out of a fucking bag. Instead, Sean Clifford, the 45-year-old, walks right down the field, 6-7 on the final drive.
Starting point is 00:00:43 Touchdown, big big win in the Penn State Nittany Lions or want to know with a scare the other game that took place was electrifying I'm going to be honest although the outcome wasn't my favorite no sure it'll happen it was a fucking hell of a game the backyard brawl was awesome the backyard brawl was off for 11 years the backyard brawl was missed by college football fans and football fans and just sporting fans alike for 11 years. The fact that the world wasn't able to see that game, which is always like that, by the way.
Starting point is 00:01:15 I guess there's a couple been blowouts in the history, but if you go back through it, there is always electricity in the air. The fan bases don't like each other. Pitt showed up last night, believe me. Hey, congrats to the University of Pittsburgh student section and fans and alumni who are insufferable. Okay? Of course. Fucking insufferable.
Starting point is 00:01:35 But congrats to all of them for showing up. That might be the last time Accresher Field Stadium looks that way for a Pitt game this season. Honestly, it is not something that sells out all the time. It's off of campus. It's not easy to get to for the University of Pittsburgh. And there was reports last night that West or yesterday that West Virginia was going to fill up that entire fucking stadium. They did not. Pitt showed up. That was amazing to watch. I didn't know any of the players on our team. Okay. I knew JT Daniels was going to be guy. I knew leg was kicking. I didn't know there was still a Sills on the team on the D-line. That's awesome. He's a guy. But I learned about
Starting point is 00:02:09 a lot of players last night. C.J. Donaldson Jr., Bryce Ford Wheaton, who ultimately is going to have a rough couple days and he's going to be questioned about that for a long, long time. This West Virginia team didn't have high expectations going into the season, I don't think. But we got a lot of young guys. We got a fast team. We got This West Virginia team didn't have high expectations going into the season, I don't think. But we got a lot of young guys. We got a fast team. We got an electrifying team. And JT Daniels seems to be a dog.
Starting point is 00:02:33 I like the West Virginia team, although it stinks that they lost. Pitt got a great win. West Virginia, I think, showed up and made me a lot more happier about where the team is. And then Penn State-Purdue was all the way down to the final drive. It was a magical night for college football last night. The toxic tables here at Ty Schmidt
Starting point is 00:02:47 at Boston Connor. One half of the hammer. Done. Cowboys 10. Diggs is here. Our Superboost hit. We're undefeated on the season. Is that good tone? I don't know. You tell me, pal. It's really good. I said, even if you don't like West Virginia, it's good value. 7.5. It's a key
Starting point is 00:03:04 number. It's a very, very key number. So I'm going to start doing, yeah, 6.5 much different than 7.5. It's a key number. It's a very, very key number. So I'm going to start doing 6.5 much different than 7.5. 2.5 much different than 3.5. These are all numbers that you have to look at. So whenever it goes to 7.5, you have to like it in a rivalry game where the jitters are probably going to be there. The jitters are probably going to be there.
Starting point is 00:03:19 It was a rivalry game. The over hit, which I don't think I expected. I thought it was going to be a lower game. But what a fucking night for college football. What a day for us. Yeah. Because we are being joined once again by a friend of the program. In an unprecedented fashion, this man came onto our show weekly throughout an entire NFL season.
Starting point is 00:03:43 First time won an MVP. That's right. We ran it back for a second time we won an mvp again holy shit this man really wasn't known by the masses before this whole thing started and by the touch and the blessing of the football gods we got to hear his brain spill out through two fucking seasons on this show. Somehow, someway, I think mostly because of our friendship with Aaron James Hawk, who is friends with him from their time playing together, we were lucky to have these fucking convos. Now, these convos led to some interesting situations.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Big time. These convos took us to places none of us could have expected, but these convos enlightened us on a human that is one of one, a fucking anomaly. And he is rejoining the show after a lot has happened. Conversations from his big old brain with numerous people have obviously sparked conversation and fodder around the entire Internet about what's going on in the world, not just the football world. We are lucky to be rejoined once again, ladies and gentlemen, by the back-to-back NFL MVP, Mr. Aaron Rodgers.
Starting point is 00:04:52 You look good, dude. You look good, dude. Hey, you look amazing. You look like you're in great shape. Look like you feel good about life. How is everything over there, man? It's not as good as it was in Omaha. That was some fun. The boys everything over there, man. It's not as good as Tahoe.
Starting point is 00:05:06 That was some fun. The boys that missed out on that, man, they missed out. I agree, and we're kind of rubbing it in Ty Schmidt's face right now because Ty couldn't come because, you know, hey, baby. Of course he died last time. And a baby. Tahoe was a blast. Thank you for that. Is that what it's like every single year out there in the middle of just
Starting point is 00:05:22 the most beautiful place on earth that I had no idea existed for our group yeah it usually is like that what does that mean what are you talking about for us you know for those of us that stayed at the house that's that's what it's all about right there yeah we missed every event i was we had a good first round too yes we did hey you were fucking playing top 10 in the end of that thing it was a great round i i'm scared to death of putting but i mean i don't know if and walking i mean what was it seven miles a day or something like that i i have no and that was a lot i did not expect it to be that tough aaron honestly well you weren't even carrying the bag i mean let's give some kudos out to to connor you actually did the grill work the light bag well excuse me hey that guy's
Starting point is 00:06:06 a dog hey dog big bag big straps and it'll we didn't empty anything out of it either so if it ended up in there it was staying for the entire thing oh yeah i mean we didn't have a full champagne bottle like aj did to his brother one year or whatever but it was loaded in there connor you're the man aaron as are you thank you for the hospitality out there, and let's start chatting about life a little bit since then. You've done some interviews. You've said some things. The entire world has reacted. Have you heard any of this?
Starting point is 00:06:34 Have you had your blinders on away from it? Have you, with training camp taking place and building a team, have you got to experience what you have started outside of the football world? It's big, Aaron. It's fucking big. It's real life stuff. I'm just hanging out in the light. You see this?
Starting point is 00:06:53 I'm just enjoying the opportunity. It's been some fun conversations. Now, you know, I've been on a couple podcasts and said things, everything I stand behind. Not a lot of questions from our local media about any of it. I haven't been asked one time about anything I said on, I mean, they rarely ask me about stuff I say on your show. After you scoop them. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Good journalism, good journalism.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Yeah, but they haven't done any follow-ups. But there has been a lot of articles written, and what it's done is it's sparked some incredible conversations for me with teammates, with people that work at the facility, coaches, players from other teams that reached out. I had a great conversation with some of the Saints guys about some of the stuff that I said on Aubrey's podcast, guys from the Chiefs who went to Kansas City.
Starting point is 00:07:53 You know, just a really interesting conversation that I'm really happy I had the opportunity to talk about my experiences and what it meant for me and what those journeys did for me and my mental clarity and my overall happiness and life and then getting to talk to joe uh you know dr joe was uh was a lot of fun as well um that was you know kind of a year in the making after everything that happened last fall and um obviously you know some of the guests that he had on his podcast was, you know, definitely stirring some shit up across the country. And then to go on his show and to kind of talk about what it was like last year was really cool. But a lot of stuff that we talked about every single week, you know, I came on your show, especially after I got COVID and then, you know, subsequently COVID-toe.
Starting point is 00:08:46 And there was a lot to talk about. Yeah, I mean, there was a lot of stuff through the last season that we were lucky to be a part of. But I think the reason why, and also your own busting with the boys, you crushed it on there. Shout out to Will and the entire squad. But I think, like, the reason why it gets so big, Rogan has like, I think 12 or 13 million downloads allegedly. I mean, who knows what fairytale numbers he has that downloads every single show because everything that he says is heard by everybody on earth.
Starting point is 00:09:12 So whenever you say change some things in a country, like there was some world policy being changed, I think due to some of Rogan's podcast that took place. And I think all those conversations are vital though. Like, honestly, I believe, don't you think, and I think that's why this show is the way it is. And when I was getting attacked for giving you a platform to speak, it's like, we're getting a chance to hear like how fucking Aaron Rogers feels. This is a obviously back-to-back MVP. Now at this point, like, don't you think conversation is maybe one of the most powerful things of all time? Whenever we were out of Tahoe and we got to chat, it was really cool watching you.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Because I think a lot of people think that you're just this, oh, I know everything asshole. And that was not the case at all. Whenever I got a chance to have some, like, real convos with you out of Tahoe, I think evolving through it all and then you, you know, partially being correct. I assume these convos with Rogan, which is from outside the football world, I don't want to say, did it feel like legitimacy or did you feel like, was there like, you know, I feel good about this because of how you felt the entire time?
Starting point is 00:10:14 Or what was it like, you know, going through that whole process with the world hearing you almost for the first time? Well, it was great. And I say it again, you know, we have two ears and one mouth for a reason. Oh. So often with social media, and we're all guilty of it, we speak twice as often as we listen. And in order to come together as a country and come together as people and connect, you
Starting point is 00:10:42 have to listen to other people's opinions, and a lot of times opinions that you don't agree with. Because the only way to test your own belief system and to have it ingrained at a deeper cellular level is to have it challenged, right? Not to live in an echo chamber where you're repeating the same things and hearing the same things and locking in the same algorithms that give you the same opinion and belief over and over and over and over again. That's how division happens because there's absolutely zero room
Starting point is 00:11:14 for people to connect and at least just listen to what you have to say. At the end of the conversation, it could be, well, I respectfully disagree with that. Awesome. But at least you listen to it. But not even having an open mind is the, in my opinion, is the ability to take your brain to a place where you can imagine what it would be like for what that person is saying that you don't agree with to be true. In what world, in a world where that is possibly true, how can I take my mind to that place and sit with that reality?
Starting point is 00:11:47 And I think it's an important lesson to learn or skill to practice is to listen to understand, not to listen to respond. And I was really thankful for Joe and for Aubrey for the opportunity to go on those two. Because the other ones are fun. You know, I did Bust One of the Boys and PFT and some other things. Oh, yeah, yeah. But those are much shorter. You know, I've sat with Aubrey for over two and a half hours and Joe was over three hours. And both of those deeply meaningful to me.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Aubrey and I's friendship is really deep and special. And, you know, the connection we have is pretty obvious when you watch that one. And then Joe and I, Joe was important for me. I reached out to Joe at the beginning of the pandemic, uh, and asked him, as I asked a number of other people who had COVID, you know, what did you do to, to come back from COVID and what, uh, research did you do? What medicine did you use and how did it make you feel? And how quickly were you back? Because I thought, hey, at some point I might get COVID and I need to be ready for it. So I talked to him and a number of other people.
Starting point is 00:12:52 And a lot of the people were saying the same things to use. And then I got COVID and obviously my world changed just a little bit. Mine did too. I mean, obviously, my world changed just a little bit. Mine did, too. But Joe was very supportive, and it was fun to be able to go back on a show and kind of close the loop on COVID, you know, before, I guess, the world is ready to. But Joe said something I thought was really, really interesting that, you know, if you didn't hear it, I wanted to share it.
Starting point is 00:13:24 But he was talking about responding to neil young and neil young was wanting to take his music off of spotify because you know joe is this purveyor of misinformation and and you know dangerously killing people i believe is the yeah and and he said and and Joe said, you know, the things that are conspiracy today or and information that's not censored. A lot of the things that we talked about last year, that Dr. Malone talked about, that Dr. McCullough talked about, that Alex Berenson talked about, that a number of people talked about on joe's show turned out to be true and that's the danger in canceling people for opinions or being so plugged into a mainstream narrative that you're just literally regurgitating information that you know let's just be honest
Starting point is 00:14:41 there's people who have a financial interest in the narrative being a certain way wow and a lot of us were caught up in that me directly you and your your guys and i love you guys and i'm so thankful for this platform to speak on it but we all got caught up in it love you we love you too but there's a lot we're gonna roast it and hopefully you know through what i talked about with some of the ridiculous nfl policies last year and the discrimination hopefully we are shining some light and and furthering a conversation about how not to do what we did ever again yeah can't let that thing repeat obviously as studies continue to come out more information is released i think there's going to be a lot of clarity on what we just experienced
Starting point is 00:15:29 for an actual unprecedented two years of just shutting down the world and you know that i think the cool part about your conversation with old rogan because you two were you know the i mean you were the mvp of the nfl talking about it rogan had the has the biggest show on earth talking about it and you two kind of free thinkers obviously open-minded people and also going against what is being pitched by the government and the people on the tv that you're being forced to watch basically every single day so you two took big shots so i think you two coming together for a show to talk about it was brilliant awesome and one of the best parts about it i thought was when you were reminding people what
Starting point is 00:16:10 was actually being said at the time because that is something that we've talked about where will we ever find out why and how this happened or will we never talk about this again because it's easy for something to be forgotten about if it's never chatted about they say only the bangers survive in like art or music or anything only the good shit survives because only the good shit is anything that people either continue to play or continue to talk about all the bad shit drifts away there's so much stuff that's forgotten and never chatted about if it's not a focal point of conversation by the masses so i think you reminding how shit actually went. And I think the reason why you remember all these things is because each one of these times these things were said, you were taking more shots, as was Rogan. So like, I think, I think that was a big part of
Starting point is 00:16:56 that whole conversation as well as we move forward. Mr. Rogers. Yeah, you bring up a great point. And I said it on Rogan. I said, let's not revise history. Let's remember what was said, what was said, what was pushed. And that was in the beginning, you get the shot and you won't get COVID and you can't transmit COVID, which we know was either an out and out lie intentionally or a statement that never should have been said and then should have been revised. Misinformation. It was 100% misinformation. But those people who were saying those things weren't getting censored or taken off of Twitter, deplatformed. But other people on the other side who were experts, you know, had posts flagged, had their accounts suspended, taken off of social media. That's the danger. Free speech is not dangerous.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Censored speech is dangerous when the course of human history has any government ever protected its citizens by restricting speech you can't you can't give me an example it's not possible you cannot give me of that ever happening hey i'm on your side here 100 what you're saying i love free speech love conversation love people learning about stuff Because I'm from Pittsburgh, I've gotten to meet people from all over the world And all over the country And believe it or not, people have different views Because of how they came up, what their life is, what they've experienced
Starting point is 00:18:14 It's just natural to have those conversations And open conversation, free speech needs to happen Even with the assholes, hey, we need assholes to be out there So we know what not to be, too I think that is a big part of the world right now where we get. Do you have a bug zapper in the back of your room there that you're chatting? Is that what you're giving a great answer? Passionate answer.
Starting point is 00:18:33 I don't want to interrupt, but it sounded like 45 bugs were just getting slaughtered in the back at the same time. Cut that. Let's re-ask the question. No, no. All good. Damn coffee machine. It does go to this clean process.
Starting point is 00:18:45 Sounded like French press. It does sound. 15 minutes after it's, you know, done, you know, pumping out coffee. So I had to
Starting point is 00:18:52 slap a couple cops while I was ready to rock and roll this morning and get that jaw and just keep on punching, man. Boom,
Starting point is 00:18:58 boom, boom, you know, get the tank top on and really come and have a conversation. Yeah, I wanted to make you feel as comfortable as possible because I missed you.
Starting point is 00:19:07 You know, I've been talking to all these other people. And some people I really like and some people just fun conversations. But, you know, like this is my home here. Come on. Hell yeah. Come on. I just wanted to make you. I didn't have a for the brand shirt.
Starting point is 00:19:20 I have this other shirt that, you know, that was gifted to me that I think you're really going to like. But I said, what do I want to wear today to make Pat feel the love that I feel for him? Yeah. Black tank, bro. Man, you know what they say. What do they say? Imitation is the greatest form of flattery. That's right.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Lou Holtz just said that to Ty. Aaron, I don't know if you saw that. Ty was Lou Holtz for a little bit talking about the Brian Kelly situation. Lou Holtz for a little bit talking about the Brian Kelly situation. Lou Holtz saw it. His foundation quote tweeted it and said, save the expletives. That's exactly how I feel. So I would like to let you know I am incredibly flattered. And we are very thankful that you're back here having a conversation with us.
Starting point is 00:19:59 And we've enjoyed listening to you chat. Listen, it is awesome hearing you kind of, I don't want to say introduce yourself to people, but you are. A lot of people knew fucking nothing about you. And although our show does alarmingly good, alarmingly, surprisingly, shockingly well, and it will end at some point, there's a lot of people that never listened to this fucking show that still think the same way about Aaron Rodgers as they had maybe before Aaron Rodgers Tuesday started two seasons ago. So whenever you host Jeopardy and you do all this shit and you go, anytime I think you get a chance to showcase your fucking hilariously large brain and deep thinking ass, hippie ass, I think it is awesome. Like I enjoy it so much. We love that
Starting point is 00:20:42 you're back though. And we've, we have a lot to catch up on. How do you feel about football? You feel good about football? How's training camp been? Obviously, with all the conversation, changing the world, reminding people of stuff, you got fucking football happening right now. How's that? Everything, life is good, huh?
Starting point is 00:20:57 Yeah, life is great, man. I got Tom Clements back in the room. We're having a blast. He's a Pittsburgh guy, you know. He might not be a West Virginia guy, but he's a Pittsburgh guy. So you know he's gritty. Yeah. Which, by the way, West Virginia should have won
Starting point is 00:21:11 that game last night. Yeah, Aaron! I mean, they had a completion there that would have put them, you know, getting close to field goal range. Guy runs it back for a pick six. That guy had a great game. Did you see that? Had a fucking tackle on punt. Two touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Yeah, well, it was a shoulder tackle. He tackled. He just had big arms. You know, that wasn't illegal at all. And then we had a catch to end the game. They called it incomplete. Obviously, they overturned that. There was a couple targeting.
Starting point is 00:21:41 The refs didn't want us to win. Okay? The refs didn't want West Virginia to win. But I thought it was a fucking beautiful game. Do you watch a lot of college football? Last night's environment got me feeling like, oh, football's back. Like last night made that happen to me. Look, I'll be honest.
Starting point is 00:21:55 I only stumbled upon the game because I was looking for Serena and Venus playing doubles. I can understand. I understand. They lost. I've got ESPN, but it was on esbn uh the old show i think so so on esbn was pitt in uh west virginia which i have a connection to uh old quarterback coach frank signetti is coaching uh at pitt and graham harrell the legend oh yeah legend offense coordinator at West Virginia.
Starting point is 00:22:28 So I definitely had some rooting interest going on there. And obviously, you know, Pat, my affection for you. I can't deny it. I was pulling for the Mountaineers. But, you know, almost went some. Yeah. Well, the only person I knew on the team was fucking Graham Harrell. So, you know, after last night, I thought the team played great. Like, I'm actually excited to be a West Virginia fan this year.
Starting point is 00:22:50 They looked fast. They had some situations where I was like, oh, this is a good football team. Because in years past, you watch and go, oh, this is a JV football team playing against other colleges. So I think Graham Harrell's impact has already been felt. And, you know, after those conversations about him out at Tahoe, can't help but pull for fucking Graham Harrell's impact has already been felt. And, you know, after those conversations about him out at Tahoe, can't help but pull for fucking Graham Harrell to have success. Honestly, cannot help, especially those Fridays that he would have.
Starting point is 00:23:13 All those Fridays where he would be committed, you know, to the team so much. Give him back. Give him back to the community. I mean, that is a guy that we fucking want to have in West Virginia for a long time. Let's talk about the Green Bay Packers, Aaron. Let's do it. Yeah, go ahead. You sore?
Starting point is 00:23:31 No soreness? I know you're tripping balls in ayahuasca like, what, two months ago, three months ago? And now you're doing training camp? There's other guys that, what, they just train all day, every day. They drink water. All they do is eat. You're out here tripping your face off okay and then you show up at training camp and win the mvp are you feeling good body feeling good i feel great
Starting point is 00:23:51 i feel i feel great i you know it is fun having tom back tom makes uh makes that room uh so much fun we just have such a great rapport we have years and years of memories and most of them was when i was a younger player you know although he left i think in 20 up to the 2016 season so it wasn't that long ago but he was my direct quarterback coach in the room from 2006 through 2011 and a lot of fun fun memories together so having him back has been great uh obviously jordan and i get along really well and have a great time and been fun to watch him continue to develop. Everyone honed his fundamentals throughout training camp. Danny Etling in the room as well, who's a breed option
Starting point is 00:24:31 samurai. He's the man. It's a really fun quarterback room. Connor Lewis, a long time good friend, Swiss Army knife coach. He did analytics in the beginning, and then he was in the quarterback room, and then he was out of the quarterback room doing special teams. Now he's back in the quarterback room, brilliant guy, and a lot of fun to be around. So I love the quarterback room the way it is right now. That kind of sets the tone for the entire day at work.
Starting point is 00:24:59 And then the team, you know, it's a young team, and there's a lot of fun with that. There's a lot of young energy and excitement with the guys you know look at i think we have 21 new guys as opposed to last year which i don't know if that i don't know what the exact number is that seems to be a little bit maybe above the uh the mean uh but i really enjoy uh coming to work with these guys and the challenge of uh you know reconnecting and and raising up leadership with these guys and the challenge of reconnecting and raising up leadership and empowering guys and connecting with guys. I will say the thing that has been most fun out of anything, and I was really hoping for this, especially over the last couple of years, is a return to normal.
Starting point is 00:25:38 And what I mean by that is not a new norm. Not a new normal. No! No! I'm talking about a return to normal meaning you know especially for us non-vax guys who you know went through hell last year uh being able to little things like being able to go to dinner on the road in san fran pre-season being able to have an o-line dinner in kansas city with about 20 of us and prank the young lineman with a $25,000 bill,
Starting point is 00:26:07 which was 10 times above what it actually was, I think. And having the opportunity to do those type of things, having a team party like we had a few days ago, that's what I missed. I missed those connection times. And something is silly and stupid. I don't even know why they did this, but the tables are back in the locker room. Now, this means nothing unless you kind of understand the locker room. But the locker room is shaped like an oval, right? And everybody's facing each other. That was a Mike Sherman design so that, you know, there's no right angles in the locker room. So we're all kind of facing inward, right?
Starting point is 00:26:46 Well, they've always had these tables in the locker room so we're all kind of facing inward right well they also they've always had these tables in the locker room and on the tables is that's the hangout you know for the last couple years everybody's been sitting their ass in the locker and when you sit in your locker all you're doing is looking at your device right now we got these tables finally back and they have these little round chairs and now every single day in training camp, you walk into the locker room from the cafeteria or from the equipment room or whatever, and guys are hanging out. Guys are playing cards. Guys are playing dominoes. Guys are playing, you know, whatever game it might be, spades.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Guys are playing euchre. Guys are playing. Boo-ray over there? Boo-ray, yeah. I mean, guys are hanging out, you know, and that's talk, you know. And that's what I love to see. I love to see the opportunity for those connection points. And that's what's exciting is the return to the old norm, right?
Starting point is 00:27:37 Not this, you know, not a new norm. An old norm where guys hang out and enjoy each other and spend time together. I love that. And that's been probably the most fun part of camp i just love how much like fuck you you still have for that hole you know what i mean like yeah they're not that new norm okay not the things that people were telling me that i'm gonna have to prepare myself for i'm talking about what life was like before uncle 19 came through and literally hit us all with a train of fucking misery and conflict and chaos and ultimately a lot of fear and i think that is hopefully
Starting point is 00:28:13 subsiding a little bit as we move forward but that locker room sounds amazing that's what that's the part that everybody misses when they retire you know that's what everybody's talking about and it sounds like for the last two years, these young guys, especially with how good of the fucking teams you had, didn't have a, that's a massive part of team building. I think, you know, like I walk into that team, let's say you guys need to punter. I do not have this show. I'm not successful. I'm working out. I'm punting. I walk into one of those tables. I sit down, I get down to 50 firsthand to talk. And I turned that thing over. My relationship with everybody in that building is going to be much different than if I have to go sit in my locker and not chat with anybody.
Starting point is 00:28:48 That happens not just with my position, but everybody. That's huge, Aaron. I think that's a big fucking deal. Has to make life similar. You enjoying it a lot more now, I would assume, yes? I've been enjoying it since I did ayahuasca. So the last few years have been great. Hold on. Okay, okay. Let's dive into that. Let me finish my answer, bro. No, no.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Let me talk about the – Oh, no, no. Yeah, you're right. Loving football. Loving football. Go ahead. No, then we'll talk ayahuasca because I got a lot of questions. I got a lot of questions.
Starting point is 00:29:17 You're loving football, though, since ayahuasca. Why? New mindset? New vision on things? New look at things? Well, how come? Yeah. Mental health, bro, it starts with self-love. And when you increase that, then you're able to pass that on more easily.
Starting point is 00:29:36 And listen, the locker room is where the chemistry takes place. Like there's a lot of great things that happen on the practice field and obviously in the game and outside the facility is fun and dinners and different things but the locker room is that's the core of that connection right that's where the inside jokes happen that's where you know the you know the pranks happen and the and the connection and the conversation and you got dudes you, freestyle rapping in one corner. You got guys playing spades in the other corner. You got me and Dave scheming prank plots in the other corner.
Starting point is 00:30:12 And you got, you know, and you got the random specialist in the other corner, you know, talking about, you know, Joseph Smith or whatever. So there's a lot, you know, there's a lot of stuff going on in that locker room. I'm not talking about any gold plates. That's where the, you know. That's where the connections happen. I mentioned Joseph Smith not as a slight to the LDS at all, but I did make a joke with our new punter, Pat O'Donnell. He showed up to the plane, and I said, are you on your mission?
Starting point is 00:30:43 Because he looked like a D know like a mormon uh you know door-to-door mormon guy yeah show up on a bike yeah yeah and then that's got a great sense of humor what did he do pat punters you know this has got to be something about pat and punters right respect i got back to my locker one day and there's a book of mormon in my locker yes i like this pat's a good dude sounds like pat's a good dude i like that and i open it up and this is where like he really understood you know me and my sense of humor and my intellect and and i got a glimpse of his he had i opened it up and i was looking through and i was like you know there's like highlights and underlines and like pan marks in there.
Starting point is 00:31:25 And I was thinking, did he go find this at like a secondhand, you know, bookstore and put it in my locker? No. In fact, he had taken time and gone through because he knew of my, you know, he knew how detailed I am and that I would probably look through it and try and find some clues in there. He had gone through it and highlighted and underlined and written in pen stuff to make it seem like this was like a used Book of Mormon. So it was a multi-layered joke there, and I appreciate it. And then Dalton. He read a Bible to have a follow-up joke for you.
Starting point is 00:32:06 That's awesome. That is – I love this guy. Hope he punts well there for a long time. He's got a great leg. And he's – you know what? He's a really well-groomed punter. He always comes in. That hair is on point.
Starting point is 00:32:19 The eyebrows are on point. The facial hair is on point. You know, between him and mason there's not a lot of hair gel left in the city i see what you did there your hair looks great too right now wow hey thank you yeah it's it's you know have you been you never know have you been growing that hair since ayahuasca yes oh good transition pat thank you so what the fuck happened with that you know and how did you end up dabbling with it because i feel like that's a massive decision you and i chatted about a little bit of tahoe i've obviously encountered humans in the past that have done
Starting point is 00:32:57 the ayahuasca and the other potential hallucinogens or whatever the title is that's big deal that's like a you're going there thinking that you're going to transform right isn't that kind of what happened everybody that i've talked to before going after going different people afterwards and it's all every time every person i've talked to has been for the good let's assume just because we don't want to paint a broad brush some people have had a bad one or whatever but it's a transformative decision you have to make right to go take that and it seems like football wise it's worked one or whatever, but it's a transformative decision you have to make, right? To go take that.
Starting point is 00:33:25 And it seems like football wise, it's worked with you hair wise, obviously it's, yeah, it's worked incredibly well, but what that was a transformative decision that you decide to go do that. And did you know it was going to change you forever? I mean, I hoped for sure. I mean, I don't think you can ever know for certain when you're dealing with a master plant teachers, but, uh, what's that? I want to ask her certain when you're dealing with master plant teachers.
Starting point is 00:33:46 What's that? Ayahuasca. It's a master plant teacher. That's what I'm saying. Oh, you're talking about the plant itself. Yeah, I think there's some master plant teachers from Ayahuasca and Huachuma, peyote. I haven't done those other ones ones but there's just many plant teachers that that people have been using for thousands and thousands of years there's churches set up across the country that serve some of these medicines and have deep and meaningful experiences
Starting point is 00:34:15 for me it just came down to uh you know a high school best friend and i having a round of golf and talking about his recent ayahuasca experience. You met him, Jordan. Oh, yeah. And inspired me to do it because I was searching for a deeper level of self-love and went down to Machu Picchu in Peru and had magical experiences there in Peru, in the Sacred Valley, and then had a couple of really interesting nights on the medicine and came back a changed person. Wanted to leave myself open to doing that again in a different setting,
Starting point is 00:34:57 in a different place, with a different group, and ended up doing that again this off-season and had an absolutely beautiful experience. Sat for more nights this time, three, and two the first time, three the second time. And had a really difficult night one, beautiful night two, and then kind of a mixed bag night three, with a really beautiful kind of conclusion to the ceremony. And, you know, it changes the way you look at the world. You feel way more connected, and it starts with a self-love. conclusion to the ceremony and uh you know just it changes the way you look at the world you feel
Starting point is 00:35:25 way more connected and it starts with a self-love and when you have that unconditional love for yourself it's way easier to then transfer that to the people that matter in your life and honestly the people that don't matter so that i can you know say with with honesty to my detractors and haters and whoever it is like i don't have bitterness towards you. I don't have animosity. I have nothing but love and appreciation for where you're at in your life, on your life path and all the different emotions that impact our personality and our decision making and in our belief system on a daily basis.
Starting point is 00:35:59 It allows me to relate to my teammates better, to relate to the coaches better, to relate to my close friends and loved ones better. And really most importantly, out of all of it, it's not selfish, but to relate to myself. And then to shed self-judgment and all the projections that I put on myself, to really shed those and to find a deep and transformative self-love for everything that I am and everything that I'm not and then go out in the world and try and love people in the same way. Do you think that you were fighting who you were for a long time
Starting point is 00:36:34 because you're this hippie brainiac who is, like, the best player to ever play the most meathead sport of all time? Do you think you were just kind of confused? That's why you were trying to find and figure out who you were with ayahuasca the first trip? Or what do you think it is? What do you think it was that made you appreciate yourself and, you know, understand who you are more? Because it felt like you being yourself more is probably how
Starting point is 00:36:58 everything kind of changed for you in a positive way. What do you think it was? I think we're all products in some sense of our uh upbringing you know there's a lot of conditioning that goes on um and a lot of uh patterns that are formed uh many just naturally as you acquire them from your parents or siblings or surroundings or environment some of them are based on survival and i'm not talking about life or death some for some people yes yes, life or death, but more just surviving the day and surviving the emotions that come up. And for me, a lot of the things that I learned or patterned were very self-critical.
Starting point is 00:37:34 And on my end, I do appreciate it because that self-criticism drove me to be the best and to not be satisfied with where I was at, to not be complacent, to not make decisions that would adversely affect my future in a negative way. And so I'm thankful for that. But there comes a time where shame and guilt and self-rejection and self-rejection and self-criticism can get in the way of the true connection to yourself that allows you to love yourself better and then to allow others to love you as well in a deeper and more meaningful way. So that's really what I went down to Peru looking for and hoping for was just a greater self-love and an understanding of what that means on a deep cellular level, and shedding some of the shame and guilt and conditioning that I learned as a child.
Starting point is 00:38:29 And again, this is not a projection onto my family life or the environment I grew up in. It's just what became the reality to me and how I kind of maneuvered in my world as a 5-year-old, as a 10-year-old, as a 15-year-old, as a 15-year-old, as a 20-year-old. And it was through a lot of self-judgment, not feeling good enough or lovable or whatever it might be. And so the goal was to really shed those things and to find a deeper self-love. And with the hopes and the ideas that a deeper self-love would lead to more contentment and peace which would lead to a more clear mind which would lead to being a better leader and a better player and having the success in the field that i knew i was still capable of doing seems
Starting point is 00:39:17 like you fucking found it buddy oh yeah congratulations made the right decision gotta feel pretty good well listen. Listen, the work continues. It's constantly trying to evolve and adapt. What do you got there? A 700-page book that you said people should read with your book. You didn't read it.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Is that Fingerprints of the Gods? Yeah. Look, I mean, that's what it's all about. It's about leveling up for you it might not be that for you it might be starting with the boy the mole the the horse and the fox right i said that in the wrong order but yeah or the trebek the answer is yeah you know what i mean right but or the my friend hey but i think i think we saw some of you continuing to work on yourself through this book club. Don't you think? Yeah, I think we all did.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Yes, I think so. I think it was cool that you were doing that. And I was like in my while you're stating these books, I'm a goddamn. This feels like literally books. He's currently going through right now as you're going through an entire process. It's been books I read in the last couple of years years for sure yeah well i want to let you know it's been an honor to be a part of this entire aaron rogers appreciates what the fuck aaron rogers is for the first time in his entire life uh era here it's been very cool it's been very nice i think we should make an announcement right
Starting point is 00:40:38 now don't you yeah i think we should. All right. You want to say it? We didn't rehearse. I want you to say it. In an unprecedented move. What? For the third consecutive season. What? What?
Starting point is 00:41:02 Conversations that rattled the sports globe. What? What? What? Conversations that rattled the sports globe. What? What? What? Emotions that were high, low, and all the emotions in between. What? What? Yeah, I didn't know how I was going to get that many what's in there.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Anyways, Aaron Rodgers Tuesday is back for season three. Let's go! Yes! Yes! Yes! Hey, this thing has been a full... Hey, we're talking, right? Anyways, Aaron Rodgers Tuesday is back for season three. Let's go! Let's go! Hey, this thing has been a full... Hey, we're talking, right? I mean, it's been all over the place. Not feeling low, but the reaction to some episodes were rather negative, negative, negative, negative.
Starting point is 00:41:35 And then you know what you would do that next week? You'd go throw for fucking four touchdowns, two incompletions, and then we'd go back and have the whole conversation. It's been an honor to ride the wave of a season two times in a row alongside of you and for it to become the third. This is awesome. You're awesome, and we appreciate the fucking hell out of you, Eric. Listen, Pat, get your Speedo on.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Get your longboard out because this is a long ride that we're jumping on here. Yeah. We're going to ride this thing all the way down. Nah, I'm not hopping up there. We're going to do this whole thing. I can't thank you enough. I know Ty has some questions for you. Is that okay?
Starting point is 00:42:12 Yeah, come on. Hey, let's have a fucking season three of NRT. Hell yeah. Let's go. We're back, bro. You know, I know we're in the middle of self-love, no pressure, no animosity, no bitterness, but you don't win an MVP this year, I'm going to be so pissed.
Starting point is 00:42:27 Yeah, you're not. You know, because we have a streak, you know what I mean? I mean, we'll bring everything we can. We're just, like, the fact that you've won the MVP both years that we've done this has been hilarious. And when we look back on it, we'll say, what a fucking joke this life has been. But it's been really cool. This is a whole new team you're working with. It's going to be a whole new season. Let go dude huh let's go i just just need a couple people
Starting point is 00:42:51 counting us out that's all we need and i think they're already out there aaron there's a lot of them pal i want to let you know that this one isn't a guy though ty schmidt your question no absolutely not aaron great to see you it's been a while you look great your hair looks great you look physically fit um hope you enjoyed your summer i think you did um a lot of people were talking about you know the comments you made with the receivers kind of needing to pick up their play and get ready because once the season starts you know we don't really have a choice have you found yourself in like a more active coaching role almost with those guys? And do you feel like they've come along to the point? Like you expected them to be at this point,
Starting point is 00:43:31 right on the precipice of the season? Well, again, Ty, great question. Yeah. Thank you. Misty and Tao. But I think as you get older, you have to step into that more of a coaching role. And I love those opportunities. You know, I think it's important any time that I'm speaking up in a meeting that those guys take notes because I'm not just speaking for my health. I'm usually dropping some things that may come up at some point during the year. And I think it's important that everybody's dialed in on the same page and paying attention.
Starting point is 00:44:02 And I will say those young guys really have come along. Now, we've got to get Samari, you know, a little bit more focused. But he is very, very talented. I'm starting with him, our sub-grant pick, Samar Ture. And I thought he had a really nice camp and did some great things and improved his last game. I mean, he had like six catches for 80 yards and and kind of basically won his spot on the last game and i give him a lot of credit um but the
Starting point is 00:44:31 other two guys i think can really make an immediate impact for us talking about romeo dobbs and christian watson it was good having christian back at practice he missed a lot of practice and during that time what was going on romeo was getting a ton of love right he was getting a lot of practice. And during that time, what was going on? Romeo was getting a ton of love, right? He was getting a lot of pub. He was making plays in practice. He was making plays in games. The thing I like about Rome's that I saw right away was that he's a humble kid. And with that humility comes a really good perspective that I haven't done shit yet. that I haven't done shit yet.
Starting point is 00:45:10 And so I'm going to make sure I'm improving every single day because it's one thing to do it in the preseason. It's another thing to do it in the regular season. And I really like his approach and his work ethic. And overall, he's just a great kid. He really is. And excited to have him out there. Christian missed a lot of time with his knee injury and then he gets on the field the first couple days and you're thinking who is this
Starting point is 00:45:30 nine right here i mean he is big i might need to change dave's uh you know dave bakhtiari's nickname because this kid might be the the new baby giraffe i mean he's he's maybe more like a deer because he's out there just prancing around and flying around on the field. I mean, this dude's got incredible stride length and really, for a man who's 6'5", like his speed is legit. So it was nice having him. He's a different type of receiver than we've had. That guy, a guy that big with that type of stride length and that speed. So again, we're going to temper expectations for sure. And I did say earlier in camp, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:08 Romeo might be held to a different standard than a normal rookie. But we still need to temper expectations of those guys. They are rookies, but I am impressed with all three of those guys. And, you know, I think it's going to be interesting to see how it all shakes out. But we're going to need those guys to step up and play well when they get a chance. When it comes to holding those guys accountable, that's what we do. They ask me a question about receivers. They have a shit day. I'm going to tell them they had a shit day. They have a week where they don't play good. I'm going to talk about it. But we're also going to love each other up and hold each other
Starting point is 00:46:42 accountable and pat each other on the ass when we're making good plays and get serious when we need to have better performance. But I like the approach from those guys. Christian asked a lot of questions. So has Romeo. A lot of questions. And their goal is improvement and getting on the same page. And when you pair that with the veterans that we got, which I'll tell you what,
Starting point is 00:47:04 Sammy Watkins and Randall Cobb have practiced as good as I've seen receivers practice in the last few weeks. Haven't heard about it at all. Haven't heard about it at all. In a long time. So we really have those guys. And obviously I love Allen and trust him a lot. So I like the group that we got.
Starting point is 00:47:24 We get the big draft back and big, sexy Elton Jenkins. You know, we should be in a good place offensively. All right, we got baby draft, big, sexy, big draft. I mean, this offense sounds like quite a phenomenon of people. Let's assume. We got the mayor. The mayor. A.J. Dillon, the mayor.
Starting point is 00:47:43 Oh, yeah. Of all of Wisconsin?. The mayor. A.J. Dillon, the mayor. Oh, yeah. Door County. Of all of Wisconsin? Mostly Door County. Okay. He's shaking a lot of hands. He's got those quads. He's, hey, I'm a big, I'm a grown.
Starting point is 00:47:54 He ran over that mascot. You talked to him about killing that mascot? Did you see that? Didn't feel bad. Hey, you got to do what you got to do. That guy signed up for a fucking one-on-one with A.J. Dillon. You got the ball or not, pal? I guess that's what you gotta do that guy signed up for a fucking one-on-one with aj dylan you got the ball or not pal i guess that's what you said to him i mean it's like would you really get run over by aj dylan or a roundhouse from chuck norris i don't know not sure that could be c huh all of
Starting point is 00:48:16 the above um what do you think is because let's assume that these guys are watching this right just like every coach's press conference that has said the players all hear exactly what is said about the players because of that same thing with you especially with rookies that are going to have to do business with you that are wide receivers you said let's temper expectations they're still rookies even though we're going to hold them to a higher standard because they're going to have to perform more what are some things that they're going to encounter you think that are like just hiccups like have you talked to them about that like there's going to become a coverage a human like what do you think is going to be the issue with the young
Starting point is 00:48:48 wide receiver in your timing or maybe you're having ultimate success early speed that's it that it really is it um and also i believe it's uh this is a double entendre here. Star in Speed. Who was the main star in the movie Speed, do you remember? Keanu. And whose birthday is it today? Well, happy birthday, Aaron. Yeah. Keanu's birthday.
Starting point is 00:49:21 Oh, okay. Happy birthday, Keanu Reeves, dude. Happy birthday. Happy birthday, Mr. Wick. Appreciate you, dude. birthday oh okay happy birthday mr wick appreciate you dude uh greatest actor of a generation but to return to your answer it is speed so i don't mean the necessarily the speed of the game because obviously it gets a little faster from regular season to from preseason regular season, from preseason to regular season, but the speed at which your brain must operate and still be able to leave room for reaction. So the worst thing that a player, any player, young player, old player can do is be robotic, you know, be so locked in what you're doing, you can't leave any room for reactions and instincts. When it comes to rookies, it is hard
Starting point is 00:50:04 to be able to feel comfortable with what you're doing and leave room for the reactions because your mind starts running a million miles an hour. And when you talk about the game slowing down, right, this is fun things, sports talk, you know, the game slowed down for you. What does that actually mean? Well, it doesn't mean you're slowed down. It means your mind has relaxed enough to make room for reactions and instincts to enter.
Starting point is 00:50:28 And that's going to be the biggest challenge for them. And it's going to take a play or two plays or a game. You know, could be game one, could be game 17. Thanks, NFLPA. But could be game 17 where it kicks in. Hopefully game one or two or three, something early on. But I'm sure they'll figure it out. They're good kids.
Starting point is 00:50:51 They really care about it. And they ask good questions, and they're supremely talented. So it's just the speed. Once the brain slows down and they allow room for the reactions and the instincts, the game becomes a little bit easier. Hey, good luck out there, boys. Figure it out. Tell your brain to figure out what the brain needs to do.
Starting point is 00:51:11 All right? And the NFLPA is going to be pumped with how you delivered that 17-game monologue. A lot of money, though, coming into the league. There's going to be 18 games next year or the year after that. Whenever it can happen, there's going to be 18 games. I don't want to be the bearer of bad news. We're not going to get into it. Connor, your question for Aaron Rodgers?
Starting point is 00:51:27 Yeah, Aaron, I'd love to hear your thoughts about Ukraine, but I know AJ wants to ask you about that maybe next time. Have you followed the Trey Lance, Jimmy G situation at all, and do you think that is kind of going to mess up the locker room dynamic? Yeah, I'll give you my answer next week. I want to save that for when AJ's there. Smart. He probably has a take or two as well on the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:51:48 We have not heard yet. I'm not sure, though. Listen, I think a lot of us were thinking, and Jimmy, I think, admitted himself that he was probably going to be somewhere else, right? You know, he's played at a high level for a long time. He's one of those guys who you know can step in and play and play well and the Niners obviously said they want to move on with Trey as their quarterback he you know you've seen some clips we saw him in person you know he can definitely throw it and he can
Starting point is 00:52:16 definitely run all over the place he's super athletic but second year guy I think Jimmy's been league what separate or nine at this point? It's been a while, right? So you have a veteran quarterback and a young quarterback on the same team. I don't think, you know, the media loves to do the, you know, the pick sides game, right? Like, oh, how many people are on Trey's side and how many people on Jimmy's side?
Starting point is 00:52:42 That to me, that idea really only exists outside the locker room. In the locker room, and you know, Pat, you've been in the locker room, it's brotherhood, it's friendly, it's camaraderie, it's friendship, it's competition, but in the end,
Starting point is 00:53:00 you know, whoever's taking snaps, that's who we're getting behind. Now, every now and then there might be a guy who's best friends with somebody who might harbor some ill will and, you know, really wish their guy was playing. But, you know, the game's about winning, right? And when you win, whoever's calling the shots, whoever's making the plays, that's who we're riding with and that's who we're rolling with. And everybody gets on board.
Starting point is 00:53:23 That's the big part, Aaron. I don't think it's an issue. with and that's who we're rolling with and everybody gets on board um that's yeah that's the big part i don't think i don't think it's an issue now if they lose some games and struggle you know there'll be some heat outside the building inside the building i don't know i mean i feel like it's it's a very direct environment locker room you know guys voice their opinion you know what do you think should be playing who could be playing like people get it it's a business you drop the kid in the first round the kid kid's going to play at some point, right? Yeah. The guy's winning MVP.
Starting point is 00:53:48 He's the kid's going to play at some point. Yeah. You're 100% right. I just think it's – if they win, it's all good. That just seems like a tough decision, but it sounds like Jimmy G and Trey are actually like boys, boys. And Jimmy spoke glowingly, as did Trey. I think that will help out immensely in the locker room.
Starting point is 00:54:06 They probably are. So let them be. Yeah, exactly. There's not, there's really, truly not a lot of animosity in the locker room. You know,
Starting point is 00:54:12 it's, it's, it's our guys, you know, and, and you're not best friends, everybody on the team, but,
Starting point is 00:54:17 but there's a lot of really good close friendships in the locker room, you know, and, and it's not bullshit when I stand in front of my locker and, and speak glowingly about Jordan and the things I'm seeing him doing well in the preseason and in practice. Like, I'm not like doing that for some sort of, you know, virtue signaling or whatever. I'm doing that because I love him. I care about him. I want him to do well. When I see him out there doing well, man, it fires me up. When I see him drop back and one hits and
Starting point is 00:54:43 throw a fucking dime, I'm like, yes, homie, yes. Here we go, Jordan. And I bet it's the same with Jimmy and Trey. You know, like Jimmy probably is a competitor. He probably wanted to be somewhere and be a chance to be a starter. But, you know, c'est la vie. It is what it is. He's going to be there. He'll be a great teammate, I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:55:00 And if something happens or if they struggle, he'll be ready to really jump in. Yeah, it'll get figured out. I think that's what everybody just assumes. It'll get figured out. But it's going to be – if it – I think their settings – whatever. We'll move on. I'm excited.
Starting point is 00:55:13 They're going to be a good team. So he just needs to play within himself and they'll be fine. He had a great defense. He had playmakers. He had a great play caller, head coach. They'll be just fine. And that's that brain thing you were talking about with the wide receiver, probably a quarterback position even more so for the younger guys, huh?
Starting point is 00:55:28 Yeah. Because that makes you what? Kind of press everything, I'd assume, right? I mean, the timing. You play faster, the timing's a little bit off. You know, you're two-inch instead of one-inch, and you're maybe bouncing the pocket, maybe leaving the pocket early, and not just kind of sitting and letting things kind of just progress
Starting point is 00:55:46 as you're playing on time. Playing on time isn't playing slow. It's actually playing fast. Playing too quickly is playing off time, and off time is off balance, and off balance is inaccurate. Of course. Hell yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Hey, have a great fucking weekend. Last year, with the sales of the Aaron Rodgers Book Club t-shirts, we raised $100,000. Wow. We'll be donating that to a few different reader advocacy groups. We have found three. We're going to find a couple more. I think we're going to give $20,000 to each for a total of five.
Starting point is 00:56:21 You did a lot of great work, not only on the field last year, on this show, for the readers around the globe. The book club was a smashing success. Can't wait to see what we do this year if we have another season of that. And we know Aaron Rodgers' Tuesdays will be awesome. We appreciate you, man. Hey, guys.
Starting point is 00:56:37 I'm excited. I have some books in mind if we run it back. Okay. But big kudos to you guys and the boys and everybody that makes that show so special. I cannot wait for season three. I promise you. It's unprecedented.
Starting point is 00:56:54 It is going to be fire. Hell yeah! Ladies and gentlemen, you look tank top, hair pulled back, mustache. You look fucking awesome. Ladies and gentlemen,
Starting point is 00:57:04 the back-to-back MVP and host of season one, two, and now three, Aaron Rodgers Tuesday. Aaron Rodgers, thank you, buddy. Yeah! Football! Hour two is on its way. A lot of tweets last night about people just tweeting what their topic that they cover is. Yeah, I saw that.
Starting point is 00:57:23 I loved everything about it. We talk mostly football because we are football stooges, sports stooges to be exact, the talks of the table. At Ty Schmidt at Boston Corner. Boys, I haven't heard a lot out of you today because we had just had a 55-minute conversation with Aaron. I apologize for that, but that was a lot of fun, Ty. Yeah, it was awesome.
Starting point is 00:57:39 Good to see our guy. Looks happy. Great to have him back. I am very excited for this season, and hearing all that stuff he said about the receivers has got me feeling a little bit better than I think I was going into the show this morning. Temper expectations, he said. We do have rookie-wide receivers that we're depending upon.
Starting point is 00:57:54 There's going to be some learning curves. But it sounds like he's very comfortable. Tables are back in the locker room. That's right. Huge. Playing cards again. The team's coming together. They're going to have to.
Starting point is 00:58:01 A lot of new faces. Going to have to make some magic for them. At Boston Corner, last time we saw that guy, Lake Tahoe, what a time. Yeah, it was nice to reminisce. It's almost like that was two years ago at this point because of this journey we've been on to football. And now it's here, just kind of looking forward. But, yeah, Tahoe was amazing.
Starting point is 00:58:16 It was nice to remember those good times and look forward to this whole season of good times. Tahoe was kind of like our ayahuasca trip. Yeah, exactly. Changed our mindset on things. It truly was. Find out that that exists out there. Whatasca trip. Yeah, exactly. Changed our mindset on things. It truly was. Find out that that exists out there. What a beautiful place.
Starting point is 00:58:28 Yeah, that is the Mecca of California. It is definitely. By far. Impossible to get to. Mm-hmm. Impossible to get to. You got to go by land, air, and sea to get there. Yeah, you do.
Starting point is 00:58:37 But the place we were staying at that was his house, overlooking Lake Tahoe, with a full mountain range in the back that people, I guess, destination snowboard and ski on. It was amazing out there, dude. Beautiful. Gorgeous. Now, I know Tone Diggs is not Foxy. This is Tone Diggs. Oh, did you say Foxy? No, I thought Foxy was going to say something,
Starting point is 00:58:57 but he's in another room, so you can't see him. He's behind a wall, so don't worry about that. You had a great talk. Go with it, Tone. That's also mine this week. I hate him. Come on. Jeez. Tone, my favorite had a great thought. Go with it, Todd. That's also mine this week. I hate him. Come on. Jeez. My favorite week one bet is the Pittsburgh Steelers plus six and a half. Shut up. Oh, no. I love that. Maybe we boost it.
Starting point is 00:59:13 Maybe we boost it. Boost is hot. Boost is hot. Boost is hot. What were you going to say there? We're not big on driving, but I did one time fly into San Francisco and it's like a three-hour drive to Lake Tahoe. Beautiful scenery through there. I recommend everyone does it. Yeah, they should.
Starting point is 00:59:27 It's a nice little getaway. But it is hard to fucking get there. Joining us now is one of the mayors of Tahoe, a man who went to the American Century Championship like 13 years straight. He's a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup champion, all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers, and COVID survivor multi-time. One of the co-hosts of Aaron Rodgers Tuesday,
Starting point is 00:59:43 which will be entering an unprecedented season three coming up this season ladies and gentlemen aj hawk what's up dude it was good i got to see most of it man he looked great sounded great he was uh i i scheduled it for the one o'clock hour he had he had something going on so we went to the noon i didn't like that we didn't have you on here we're missing a special level of toxicity you know no i thought it was great i enjoyed watching as a fan so it was it was very enjoyable to see what'd you get a little aj hot cut today too huh hair's looking good look at that that's a few days ago i think oh really reunion cut you've been working out yeah is this uh yeah you're getting ready you've been cutting carbs so you have a little bit more joy you look a little bit more handsome doesn't look a little bit more handsome, doesn't he?
Starting point is 01:00:25 Yeah, he does. He's probably going to spray tan tonight. Oh, because you're the picker for game day. No way. Jack Harlow is going to do well. We'll see. His nail tag skull knows how to keep a little secret, but that doesn't mean he should be picking games for Ohio State Notre Dame.
Starting point is 01:00:41 If the entire 2002 National Championship squad is going to be in the building, it's either A.J. Hawk or Maurice Claret. Yeah, and who has ties to Notre Dame. If the entire 2002 National Championship squad's going to be in the building, it's either A.J. Hawk or Maurice Claret. Yeah, and who has ties to Notre Dame? That also went to Ohio State. A.J. Hawk. Boom. Brady Quinn. In the family. What about Laura Hawk? Is Laura Hawk picking?
Starting point is 01:01:00 Oh, yeah. She would really, really enjoy that. I'm sure she'd be up for it. Alright, let's dive into it. Aaron seems to be in a great place. I don't know how much – how often do you talk to him nowadays in the training camp days? Is it every day? It feels like he's in a great spot.
Starting point is 01:01:15 Are you expecting the same thing? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, every time I talk to him, he always seems goofy and like he always is and in a good mood and seems to be really enjoying football too. Feels very comfortable. He wore what he claims was a tank top. It looked like an old man shooting basketball shirt
Starting point is 01:01:30 or something that my dad would wear to the ref. But, yeah, it was cool. Yeah, it had an interesting fit, but I think he was just trying. You know, he said he was trying. No, it was great. I respect the effort. I think he probably cut that maybe. Yeah, it looked like it.
Starting point is 01:01:41 There's a chance he might have cut that just for the occasion, and we appreciate him for that. The tables being back in the locker room, he said, like, hey, people aren't going to take this as a big deal, but it is. That is a big deal. That means that all of the, hey, you're not allowed to hang out with each other even though you're teammates and don't know each other that well. And if you do know each other better, you'd be a better team.
Starting point is 01:01:59 All those protocols that are put in place to save lives, obviously, zero NFL guys ended up dying. Thank you. Thank God. Thank you, NFL guys, for surviving that. But that's all out. calls that are put in place to save lives obviously zero nfl guys ended up dying thank you thank god thank you for surviving that but that that's all out that's huge i think i think we're gonna see i think that is a huge deal aj hawk i didn't even think about that until i heard him say it but then as he says it i understand it's the whole the same buzzword culture and all that if the team gets along they're gonna play better if they if you trust the guy next to you and you've done things and you've hung out with that dude off the field like in
Starting point is 01:02:28 their real life you're gonna trust that person a lot more i feel like and if a whole team is like that then yeah look out you're gonna be going somewhere and it might change the way you view the profession as a whole yeah like some people who maybe were thinking about who knows how many years i have left you know because he's been kind of experiencing a terrible experience in the NFL. Not although he's not playing well, but the camaraderie of the game, of the locker room, is a massive part. Money's great. Winning's great.
Starting point is 01:02:58 Competing's great. Legacy's great. But a massive part of your day-to-day, your overall happiness, is your interaction with the building and how it all goes. So you can see how maybe some people thought the last two years weren't what they signed up. This ain't. This is much different than what I signed up for. So maybe that changes the future. Maybe that changes some futures, Ty Schmidt.
Starting point is 01:03:19 What do you think about that? Yeah, it's got me thinking four more years. What? I might start, you know uh get that thing out of the dryer and start wearing it every day again he did look healthy aj hair is full since the ayahuasca trip you you get the tail end of that hair there and the way back there we go there's ayahuasca still in it oh definitely you know i mean because how long it's been on his head yeah but he's uh he was holding something there what was that he was pointing at the sun he's
Starting point is 01:03:44 pointing the sun well so he wasn't holding that bottle i did see him grab the bottle at one point but i thought this was potentially a marketing photo for somebody uh but he looks good i i honestly i'm happy that he seems just fucking happy like carefree happy not worried about anything because the world has reacted to all the interviews he has done over the last couple weeks aj how have they reacted well he's been championed by a lot of people just like what happened in the past they get a victory lap almost with it and then there's still people that are still killing him too but that'll only continue to be a case he's aaron rogers and people are going to hate him for no reason and people are going to hate him for a reason and people are going to love him after actually getting a chance to hear that hippie fucker talk.
Starting point is 01:04:27 He's a hippie, dude, isn't he? I mean, it does seem to be trending in that direction. Trending. It's a great thing. I think it's awesome. Hey, man, be you. I like anybody that is authentic and they are who they truly are. With the hippies and the cowboys.
Starting point is 01:04:44 Great song there by Cody Jinks, I believe is his name. Was introduced to that song within the last couple weeks. And a lot of the words he's saying in there, I'm like, this guy's talking about my life. I'm normally the hippie surrounded by the cowboys. But basically how the industry doesn't like him. So it's a big A. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:05:03 Yeah. Nice. They don't write about me in your magazines you know that whole thing what the hell sure well he's a fucking heat maker dude everybody's gonna love it did you watch the games last night last night you know obviously pit gets the win over west virginia west virginia going into that game i'm not sure what the expectations were pit was ranked 17th they returned the number two defensive line in the country, full offensive line. They have weapons upon weapons up there in Pittsburgh after an ACC championship last year. West Virginia, a lot of turnover. I was impressed by the Mountaineer team.
Starting point is 01:05:35 I was impressed by the environment. That was awesome. Made me actually genuinely feel football was back, AJ. Then Penn State on that last drive game winner, Big Ten football kicking off in beautiful fashion. Last night was fucking awesome, AJ. Did you catch any of the games, and what are your thoughts? Yeah, those two games, I was kind of flipping back and forth throughout the night, and you're right. I heard you say it earlier with Aaron. It felt like, here we go. Football has started. It has begun. I know there was other games on around, but those two, both were good games. It kind of came down to the wire, and I think you hit it right on the head.
Starting point is 01:06:08 The atmosphere was awesome. It was cool to see college fans going crazy, and yeah, the games lived up to the hype, I think. Tom Diggs, how did we bet last night? We bet pretty good. I know the Superboost hit. Why is that? A lot of the show was on Mountaineers plus 7.5,
Starting point is 01:06:24 so they did well. That's very cool. Graham Harrell. 16-1, favorites straight up to start the season. That's not ATS. It's not against the spread, but straight up. There hasn't really been any big upsets besides Northwestern over Nebraska. Every other favorite has won so far this season.
Starting point is 01:06:40 So you're saying they are who we thought they were. Sounds like it. I mean, there's a lot of football we play tonight and tomorrow. All right, this weekend, massive matchups here. Obviously, Oregon-Georgia. Georgia favored by 16-and-a-half. Reigning champs who had 45 people drafted in the first round that only had 32 draft picks somehow.
Starting point is 01:07:00 Cincinnati-Arkansas is a big deal. Luke Fickle, what's he going to do in the post? Desmond Ritter, Sauce Gardner, that whole era, era. Then you got Utah, Florida. Dan Orlovsky's on the call. Dan Orlovsky laying down in Gainesville and he was asked by a local,
Starting point is 01:07:16 he said he pumped up, first night game at the Swamp. And that guy looked at him dead face and said, buckle up, son, because the Swamp is no joke. Dan Orlovsky tweeted that he obviously either felt threatened or impressed by their fan base and then all eyes are on notre dame ohio state game day will be live in columbus aj hawk will be the guest picker jack harlow will be performing bangers and marcus freeman in his first head coaching stint with the Notre Dame Fighting Irish
Starting point is 01:07:46 returned to the place that he played, Ohio State, with a 17.5 point favorite. This should be a massive weekend. College football is fucking doing it. Normally, okay, we're in the college football world this year with the Omaha College Football Production six games or whatever. So normally we're not in the college football world because the NFL has enough going on. This year we're in the college football landscape. I loved it last night.
Starting point is 01:08:12 And I assume this weekend with this lineup, we're going to have fucking great games this weekend, AJ. You're going to be all boozed up. But I think we're in for it this weekend with college football, and we appreciate them for that. I think that's what makes college football cool, like the atmosphere, the band, the weird, like the diehard fans that have been fans of that university since they were born they were born into it i think that's what makes college football cool
Starting point is 01:08:32 we may not know every player on the field but i think everything that surrounds it makes it awesome i concur completely i'm i'm not normally a big-time gambler on college football but connor feels like you got it all figured out oh yeah, yeah I mean, I've been ruined for you know, good college football for my entire life Everyone knows I watch college football every single day if I could but I mean Tony said it about the favorites 16 one straight up I'm just a you know, I like the dogs early just because of these massive spreads Maybe it is top heavy with Ohio State and Bama But Notre Dame is a fit number five ranked team in the country, and they're 17-and-a-half-point dogs. AJ Hoxton being nervous, the Buckeyes are going to be.
Starting point is 01:09:10 I'm nervous. I'm mostly nervous that Tobittle is going to get the boys so fired up at halftime that Notre Dame's going to come out and have no idea what to do in response to whatever cool, funky stuff Tobittle does. Hey, Tobittle is awesome. They might have some competition, though, with the Tennessee band. Did you see Cole Kublik's tweet to us? I did not.
Starting point is 01:09:27 Did they do a dong or something like people have done in the past? What's wrong with you? They don't do dongs. Nobody does dongs. Other people haven't gotten in trouble in the past. No, there's no dongs in the halftime band play. Come on. If a band is doing something, I assume it's something like that if you're bringing it up.
Starting point is 01:09:41 No, you think I'm bringing up dongs? That would be if you brought it up. We'd all go, oh, the Baylor probably made a dong. So what'd they do? They were awesome. They played narco. Oh, they did? Okay.
Starting point is 01:09:53 Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, they crushed it. Cole Kubrick sent it to us because obviously it's hot with the Edwin Diaz. That's all part of the pageantry that is college football. A man who went to college at the University of Maryland would go on to catch a football and cause a miracle for a fucking city. Now he's a member of the Buffalo
Starting point is 01:10:14 Bills. Two-time, two-time pro bowler and a man who just had a back-to-school backpack giveaway, making the world a much better place. Ladies and gentlemen, Stephon Day. Hey, we're so big, huh? Hey, how are you, man? school backpack giveaway making the world a much better place ladies and gentlemen stefan day we're so big guys hey how are how are you man you caught the tail end of our conversation uh there was no bands that made the dong formation on any fields yet i just want to let you know that just clarify it i got you i heard about i heard about some dogs, though, so I got to pay attention to that.
Starting point is 01:10:49 Have you seen a Bildo yet in your time being a Buffalo Bill? No, no, not yet. I haven't been blessed to see one. That's part of the initiation. So I'll let you know. Come across my desk. Well, now that COVID's kind of done, you know, because Bildos are being left at home because Bildos are known to hold COVID.
Starting point is 01:11:03 Transmitted. Transmitted. So the Buffalo Bills fans, they kind of knew that. Stefan, sorry that this is how this has started, but thank you so much for joining us. Giving back to the community with backpacks for back to school. You're a great dude. I think we're all enjoying the fact that you're up there with the Buffalo Bills. This year, massively different.
Starting point is 01:11:20 Obviously, you're – hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. SD got a big old bag congrats on that i think you're getting a call yeah i think congrats on that but this year you guys are favorites now you know what i mean you guys are you guys are you guys are yeah it's all right. I mean, it's actually kind of dope to think about. Yeah, kind of sweet.
Starting point is 01:11:48 Sitting sideways. Let me see if I can make some mistakes. Oh, okay. All right, it's just getting worse. No, I'm just worse. They're facing Asia. We got action. Come on, listen.
Starting point is 01:11:59 Go! Hey, look at you, a tech genius. I didn't know that was the case. You guys are at the top. Part-time IT guy. You guys are at the top of the mountain now, though. All, a tech genius. I didn't know that was the case. You guys are at the top. I'm an IT guy. You guys are at the top of the mountain now, though. All eyes are on you. You guys are going into the Super Bowl champs as favorites week one next week,
Starting point is 01:12:14 less than six days away from now. Do you guys even know that? Do you have any clue, or is it the same vibe as you felt the last couple years? Do you understand that it's heightened now, or can you not tell with the group that you have? I can't tell personally just because, you know, we kind of got that team made up of guys that's kind of a tip on your shoulder guys, the guys who came through the back door, had to work hard to get to where they're at type of guys. So it's been it's been a definitely different positioning from everybody else's perspective.
Starting point is 01:12:39 But I feel like we live in an ignore the noise, especially in that realm right now. This chapter, you know, we fell short a couple times. So at this point, we're just trying to get over the hump and get to where we all feel like we belong. But it kind of starts somewhere, and I don't want to give you the political answer, but it's got a big game coming up in a couple days. It's just going to kind of get us to where we want to go as far as one step at a time. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:01 How good is Josh Allen? And he's so young, too, and he continues to get better and better. What's it like watching that dude just continue to improve? Josh Allen, in my opinion, is the best quarterback in the league. You know, I'm not just saying that just because he's my quarterback. You've seen him have explosive games, crazy games. You've seen him run. You've seen him jump over corners, run over DBs over dbs challenge linebackers stiff arm d lineman i feel like he's he's a quarterback that provides
Starting point is 01:13:30 the complete package and he can he can throw the ball like he can throw the hell out of the ball he's a leader i've seen i've seen his approach change this year as well as far like what kind of um how he's been you know he's a playful guy he has a lot of fun out there he kind of keeps things light but he also this year i kind of feel like he kind of like taking that charge like um i feel like he's stepping into that that i mean he's been qb1 but he's stepping into that realm of like i know i know i'm talented i know what i can do and i'm trying to do everything i can i can to win it do you think that's a natural evolution of a player there especially at the quarterback position do you think like the way he had acted because of how old he was what he has experienced what he hadn't experienced like do you think this is just a
Starting point is 01:14:07 maturation of him becoming like a full like face of a franchise yeah the man i say the man just because uh coming in is kind of hard to you know you know you don't know what you're getting in quarterbacks like you can you can assume what you can get, but over the past couple of years, you've seen the maturation process of a guy keep continuing to get better. And that's what you want from a quarterback position, especially as a receiver, a guy that continue working at his craft,
Starting point is 01:14:35 continue to try to put you in positions to really have success. So I feel like it was inevitable as far as the type of guy he is and the type of time that he puts in. He was about to be that guy. He was about to be that guy. He was about to be the guy at one point. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:14:49 It just happened sooner than later, I guess. Was it bullshit or real? Like, you guys, as soon as you hung out the first time, like, hey, we're going to be boys? Was that kind of because you had to be? No, that wasn't bullshit. That was real shit. Like, it was COVID. You know, we played some Call of Duty and shit like that.
Starting point is 01:15:02 So he really did revive me a couple of times. And I was like, damn, he might not be half as bad. But shit, when we got the first time working out and I kind of met him and we kind of had a little bit of an energy, like, all right, yeah, I kind of like him. He's not that bad. You know, I never had another quarterback. And I've had like five quarterbacks since I've been in the league at that time. But when I met him, he might not be that bad he might be all right yeah because coming out of Minnesota everybody knew you were incredibly talented but had no idea what had happened you were fucking great over there why is it not working then you go to Buffalo it's just rebirth now you're wildly wealthy hey
Starting point is 01:15:37 wildly what resurgence it's like resurgence they brought me back they brought me back to life and I feel like the culture kind of embraced me as well as far as, like, the type of player that I was and, you know, what I brought to the table. They just, you know, embraced me wholeheartedly. And they was like, look, go out there and be yourself. And I'm still grateful for that up to this day. That's awesome to hear. And thank you for saying that.
Starting point is 01:16:00 Is that why you think, like, when a guy like Von Miller comes in or anybody else comes in, the bills are just built right now. The culture's already built. You're either going to fit in or you're going to not make the team. Is that kind of the mindset up there right now? 100%. But I feel like a lot of guys, some guys perceivably have a bad rep
Starting point is 01:16:18 or anything, but everybody on our team really is good people for the most part. From what I know. I don't know what people do. My personal relationship and professional, I've seen nothing but good things from these people they work hard work hard as shit uh they're good teammates and i feel like it's like that culture that makes you like all right like you know what i'm saying they're winning here they're doing everything in their power to make adjustments and we added players adding the right pieces and i think that's why i make it easier for guys to be like, yeah, like I want to go play over there.
Starting point is 01:16:45 Like, shit. They went in, they got in the right mindset, and I feel like we'd be having fun. Like, you know, football can kind of turn into a job for a lot of guys. Groundhog Day. I feel like we're having hella fun. Groundhog Day, man. It just gets so repetitive in there.
Starting point is 01:16:58 It does look like you guys are always fucking dancing. I mean, there's always Josh Allen doing something. It's awesome. That's a real thing, though. That can change a whole season. Exactly. Especially cultural. I mean, just for us to keep things... I got a guy, a quarterback, Derek Dutt.
Starting point is 01:17:13 I mean, I'm not going to... He hits me in the nuts probably every other day. Wow! Holy! He has a joke for me every week. So it's like, even when you're dragging, you might be sort of like, man, I'm tired right now. They ain't going to let you be that way.
Starting point is 01:17:30 It's too many guys on the team. Like, no, we got work to do. So you better get in a better mood. That's awesome. Are you guys on offense excited to watch your defense play? And also a guy like Vaughn Miller, I know they brought him in, they say, to kind of be the closer and to finish games for you. And second part of that question, is that a sweet backstreet boys t-shirt you were wearing right now yeah oh yeah oh there we go they're on tour oh they're back i forgot your question because i was so focused on the team where yeah vaughn miller him closing games out
Starting point is 01:18:00 the defense has been it's definitely been exciting like seeing a guy like that in person like seeing a guy like that like shit like come off the edge damn near can ruin a practice if you let him just because like he's making so much havoc he's getting to the quarterback those plays where everybody's arguing like damn that would have been a sack or not it wouldn't have been a sack his shit be be, real close to being a sack. So it's like I think Coach has to let him know a couple times to ease up. Like, all right, give us a look right here. Let us get a player or two because he'll be so disruptive.
Starting point is 01:18:33 But it's something to enjoy from the offensive position to be like, damn, like we're going to have some extra possessions. Like I feel like we're going to get the ball back. We got Dak. We got him. We got Big Phil, Jordan Phillips, Tim. We got some guys, some 30-year guys, AJ Appanenza. We got guys that can play.
Starting point is 01:18:51 So I think another guy to look out for, and I don't want to jinx it, but Greg is a baller. Who? He just came in with a different. Greg. The D.N. Greg Greg? From Miami.
Starting point is 01:19:04 His name's Greg, Greg? I just call him Big G. Big G's real mild-mannered, but he's a dog. I feel like that second year, that second year jump is one of those guys that you need to keep your eyes out for. Hey, fucking Big G's going to be a problem. Big G's going to be a problem.
Starting point is 01:19:21 How old are you, Stefan? I'm 28. So you're too young to even know that there was real NSYNC Backstreet Boys fandom beef back in the day.
Starting point is 01:19:29 Yeah, beef. I do know that, though. That's natural. Well, I'm Justin Timberlake guy through and through. Don't know how to tell you that. You're a JT guy? Yeah, how could you not be?
Starting point is 01:19:38 That's like, I'm starting to question. I'm a fan. I'm with you. As you can say, I concur. Like, I agree. You're the man. I'm with you. As you can say, I concur. Like, I agree. You're the man.
Starting point is 01:19:48 Go ahead, Tony. Stephon, do you like – now, who knows what they're going to do on defense, if they're going to mirror you or not. But do you like, like, week one right out of the gate, you going against another dog in Jalen Ramsey? Yeah, 100%. Like, I feel like this is what this game is made of. You know, we got one of the toughest schedules.
Starting point is 01:20:05 People don't even think we have a tough schedule probably, but our first four or five games are damn near primetime games. It's fitting that we jump off the fan with the first game of the season. I feel like last year we were cut short for many reasons, but this is that game that you wanted. This is the game that we wanted, something that we are excited about, I'm excited about. I can't wait.
Starting point is 01:20:30 Let's not do any competitive advantage and give anything away. But do you feel like you picked up right where you left off? I mean, literally your last game ended in, like, the best spot for your offensive side. And we got a lot of love for the defense. We love everybody on the defensive side. They're great on our show. But the conversation all offseason was obviously the coin toss and your
Starting point is 01:20:50 offense was not unstoppable at the end of the season. When you come back into training camp is it like you guys are picking up because of the veteran experience that you have on there or is there still that process of having to ramp up week ones nowhere near what week 15 will be. Is that still a thing you guys can still get better it's a it's a little it's a little bit of both you say you have some camaraderie that you've built uh for the past couple years a couple couple key things that you might be
Starting point is 01:21:14 comfortable with but it's always a learning curve as well we still i feel like we watch more film now on specific routes than we did before because it was a lot more so off of town and improv and getting open and that kind of thing. But now it's more so like, all right, well, what are we doing right here? What's the plan right here? What's the backup plan? What's plan A? What's plan 1A?
Starting point is 01:21:34 I'm saying so I feel like it is some carryover, but at the same time, you still got to work your way back to hitting on all cylinders. Can't wait to watch what that offense grows into after, if you're going to get better off of fucking last year. You guys were electrifying to watch. Connor, your question. Yeah, Stephon, you added to the D-line,
Starting point is 01:21:51 but you also took a corner in the first round this year. Elam, have you had to give him a couple welcome to the NFL moments and kind of show him the ropes? Yeah, we've been on his ass. We've been on his ass, 100%. I feel like he's a young guy that's built for it, though. He came into camp with the right mindset of, I'm trying to get better, and we've been on his ass 100 i feel like he's he's a young guy that's built for it though like he came into camp with the right mindset of i'm trying to get better and uh we've been on his ass 100 like i told as a
Starting point is 01:22:10 receiver him saying you don't you don't want to make it you don't want to make it easy at all because the conversations we're having with him is if it's if it's if it's hard right here it'll be easier in the game and sometimes that is that is true like i feel like we have some exceptional receivers that guys that can get open catch the ball so uh in practice you ain't gonna do nothing but get better and it's a big ass from a young corner you know everybody's talking about ignoring the noise and this is a guy that's coming in in the first round and need him to play we need him to play we need him to play well so uh i feel like it's been indefinitely he's been a professional he's been grinding and i can't wait to see him i can't wait to see him in I can't wait to see him in action. Last question here, Stefan from Tide.
Starting point is 01:22:46 Stefan, I know he was the quarterback's coach last year, but Ken Dorsey is his first year as you guys' offensive coordinator. Has there been any kind of learning curve with him coming in or when you have vets like you and Josh kind of, you know, in your rooms steering the ship? Has that transition been smoother than you maybe expected? It's been a lot smoother, especially considering he was already kind of like a part of our team already.
Starting point is 01:23:09 He kind of already had some more personal relationships with not only me, Josh, and the other receivers. We spoke every day. We had a million walkthroughs. So it just kind of worked out that he stayed in the building and he got the OC job. So I feel like when you have those veteran guys and those professionals, it's a lot easier for him to really be like,
Starting point is 01:23:28 okay, these are some of the plays you feel comfortable with. It's more like an open dialect on like, okay, this is what works. This is what I've watched hundreds of hours, and this has worked for us. Let's tailor it up to try to do it XYZ way and continue to have success at it. So I feel like it was a smoother process than I anticipated. But, you know, nothing is going to be perfect. It's going to be – this year is its own entity,
Starting point is 01:23:47 and it's going to be something we're going to have to figure out anyway. Man, you're awesome on this show every time you come on. We appreciate the hell out of you. Thanks, boss. I appreciate it. Hey, you're a good punter, right? I think I've seen you punt a ball after – I'm nice as shit.
Starting point is 01:24:00 You know what I'm saying? Are you doing that this year? Is that a celebration, or do you get fined for that? I always punt the ball in this sense, celebration or you get fined for that i'll be i always put the ball in the stands and i've got fun multiple times so if you if you're telling on me right now no no no i'm saying if you make one into like i'll donate a pretty if you know where are you donating though one of those you tell me out of the stadium no no no double header i, if that's what you want. Hey, if you want the other one. I don't want that.
Starting point is 01:24:27 No, okay. I was saying it was your decision where I'll donate. If you punt a Bildo, I'll donate. All right. All right, so 20,000 from me if you punt one. And it's like, it has to go. Where do you normally, I don't, you're telling, you're kind of setting the standard here right now. Probably upper level. Probably upper level. Whoa. Okay okay so if you go on to the upper level and
Starting point is 01:24:48 we'll find out because people will have self-worth i'll donate 25 grand to any buildo charity or any charity that you would like and if you pun a buildo aj will donate 25 grand right aj yeah 25 good good good it's got at least get in the stands, though. I got you. Yeah. That's going to hurt. You better pick a big one. All right.
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Starting point is 01:26:28 Ladies and gentlemen, Stephon Diggs. Yeah! Brad Biggs came on this show, Feel the Beat. Yeah. We appreciate it. Hey, Brad Biggs, thank you. Thank you, Brad. Love to have you back.
Starting point is 01:26:41 I don't know why you blessed us with the information that you blessed us with. Brad Biggs basically said, hey, that Anaheim plan thing's coming real soon and then that got picked up and then yesterday press conference here we go Arlington is happening with the Chicago Bears there's a buyout after 2027 uh to get out of Soldier Field that's like 87 or 97 million dollars or whatever and that's like they announced the plans of what they're going to do. The Chicago Bears are no longer playing in Soldier Field after the next four or five years, and they're going to be moving to Arlington. So look for Arlington to have a plaza, a casino, hotels, restaurants, shops,
Starting point is 01:27:16 a whole experience, especially with a team like the Bears who have a lot of history, the museum that they can put in there, just like Lambeau has, just like New England has, just like Dallas has. There will be an entire world there for the Chicago Bears to build upon. It's great business. That's going to be a little bit different, though, huh? Are you Bears fans still going to be pumped about it or no? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:36 A new stadium is going to be absolutely amazing. Okay, so you don't mind that it's moving out of the city, right? No, yeah. Like Arlington Heights is like 45 minutes, so it kind of sucks in that. But you still have a skyline you can see. It's like, I don't know. Is that where the practice facility is? Is it near there?
Starting point is 01:27:51 No, that's more north. So this is northwest. How far is the practice facility, you think, from where this will be? Probably under 30 minutes, probably. Okay. Maybe 30, yeah. Because the practice facility is like 45 minutes away, I think, from downtown Chicago, right?
Starting point is 01:28:04 Yeah. It's way out there. So guys that play for the Bears, I think, from downtown Chicago, right? Yeah. It's way out there. So guys that play for the Bears, I think if they live in the city, they have to commute a pretty good bit in the morning for work, or they live out. Bless you. It tastes too good. Is the practice facility new, though?
Starting point is 01:28:18 Because could they build a new one in that Arlington Heights spot? I assume they would, yeah. But that's what I'm talking about. Whenever you did woo, what did you say? you made a sound there for what for the bears whenever you said it was 45 minutes away from chicago i felt far to me because i know chicago it could be 45 minutes or two hours doesn't matter there's so much traffic oh yeah is elon building a uh hyperloop the tunnel and company it's there already right is it so wait when will they break ground though they'll have this thing done before they move out of soldier field right yeah they would obviously but i'm saying they're
Starting point is 01:28:47 not gonna like all of a sudden 2027 and now we break ground we'll be in soldier field two more years well it seems like that's what every city did with covid for construction yeah you know we had two years and then we just said fuck it once everybody's back then we'll just him hard we'll not let anybody be able to move feels like every city's done that, so let's hope Chicago doesn't do that or Arlington doesn't do that with this new Bears thing. Let's get ahead of it. You mean like when the Vikings decided that they were going to play at the University of Minnesota outside for a year
Starting point is 01:29:14 when it was negative 10 every year? Did you play up there? Did you play in that? Yeah. Well, you guys had the legendary coldest game there, right? I played there, but wasn't that partly because their dome collapsed? Remember that? No, yeah. That was the old dome, right right they were supposed to play in that until the new
Starting point is 01:29:28 one was finished old dumb so old deteriorates that was a part of their thing about leaving minnesota right yeah there was there was speculation they were they were it was the old uh hey if we don't get a new one we won't you'll'll kind of force our hand. We'll have to go to L.A. Fuck. We'll have to leave. You don't pay for a new stadium. So I think that happened. Then they got agreed for a new stadium.
Starting point is 01:29:51 Going to play it out in this old... What's the name of the old dome? Metrodome. The Metrodome. We're going to play it out, and then Snow said, we would like to say goodbye to this place as well. So they crashed through the goddamn roof. They have to play...
Starting point is 01:30:04 Wasn't Brett... Didn't Brett hit his head or something like that? Were you a part of that game? When Brett hit his head playing outdoors in Minnesota? Yeah. I wasn't a part of that game, but no, I played against the Vikings when Teddy Bridgewater was the quarterback at Minnesota's college field. Was it cold as fuck? Cold, turf, very hard.
Starting point is 01:30:20 Yeah, it was Minnesota. How cold though? Like alarmingly cold yeah i mean minnesota gets so much snow too i feel like minneapolis especially and yeah it's it was i don't know exactly what it was but yeah it was not warm at all i know that i think it was negative 13 when we played the vikings jesus christ just that was before when how do you measure that how do you measure the absence of temperature at negative 13 and then then that's before wind chill, they said. That's before wind chill.
Starting point is 01:30:47 Okay. Jesus. How much colder could it get? How much colder could it get? Can it get colder? And can you feel the difference between negative 13 and let's say negative 30? If it's windy, you know that. It could be negative 5, but if there's not wind, it's actually bearable.
Starting point is 01:31:07 It's okay. But when that wind picks up, it's nasty. I guess stale cold, you're right. I guess you can deal with it. It's much more manageable. Yeah, yeah. But still, is negative 5 with wind that feels like negative 10? Is that the same as negative 30 feels like?
Starting point is 01:31:22 At what point is your body just like, yeah, it's fucking. It is unbearably cold right now you know like that's what it's cold yeah like those games i'd go out for warm-ups and i'd wear like in green bay they could have you could get these kind of like scuba gloves that you could wear when it was really cold they're nike thick i wore them a few times uh or you always wear like little liners under my football gloves too you always think they might help they don't really do much, but you go out for warmups and legit 90 seconds in, I wish my fingers were numb. They're not numb.
Starting point is 01:31:50 They just feel like there's needles sticking through all of those and my feet. So go right as soon as warmups are over, put my helmet in the sauna, sitting there for a half a second, try to get my fingers back, and then go out for the kickoff. I don't know how you guys had to hit each other like that. Like warmup hits? I don't know how you got through warmup drills other like that. Like warm-up hits? I don't know how you got through warm-up hits.
Starting point is 01:32:05 Those are not fun. Those are absolutely not fun. I remember watching those. Me and Vinny would be sitting on the heated bench or whatever, and we'd have the poncho, the big fucking warm poncho, backwards. Smart. Well, Dutch oven, you make yourself there. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:32:19 I mean, I'm not shitting my pants yet, but yes, it is certainly an oven that you are cooking yourself in. And we're just sitting there for the warm-ups as fans are piling into this fucking stadium. And we're watching our teammates just do individual drill where it's like shuffle, shuffle, fucking kind of engage. It's kind of
Starting point is 01:32:37 I don't know. It's a full strike. Come on. Especially if it's that cold. Your coaches are obviously pissed that they think there's no juice. So we've got to get some pops. Let's see where the pad's going. And all of a sudden, guys are on the ground. Yeah, and me and Vinny are just sitting there like, man, today's a good day to be the guy that only kicks the ball.
Starting point is 01:32:54 Because these guys are getting hit before the game. These hits mean nothing. This means absolutely nothing. And every single fucking bash to the jaw that happens just has to hurt so much more in those fucking cold weather games i i those are the warm-ups that made me think of tj we i don't know how you guys would do warm-ups you do individual all this stuff pat and go offense and then you come together and run like three or four plays ones on ones one oh against one yeah and that's the those little
Starting point is 01:33:20 sessions where maybe the defensive coaches are a little juiced up and want you to come downhill a little bit or whatever and if you would come like and it's freezing cold and you hit sitting or tj like you jam a finger you hit him when it's freezing that's when those dudes get legit really pissed what the fuck are you doing i'm like hey man you got you know you see these guys you see my coaches they're losing their mind you're like all right man all right man what if tj lane just started swinging yeah fight i don't. TJ, he's got a rock head, man. That dude, he would blast me in warm-ups. What? So, Coon, TJ Lang, Sitton, you, just the hardest heads in the NFL.
Starting point is 01:33:54 No tour at all. We're playing old school football. If we could take these Rydells off, we think that would be an advantage for our team. No, I don't. I wouldn't wear a helmet. Are you kidding me? It's a weapon. I get it.
Starting point is 01:34:04 Yeah, that's why you're thinking that. But if you had to. You can't use your head if I wouldn't wear a helmet. Are you kidding me? It's a weapon. I get it. Yeah, that's why you're thinking that. But if you had to. You can't use your head if you don't wear a helmet. Yeah, if everybody had to take helmets off, though, I feel like your. It'd be rugby. Yeah, but your team. Your team, though, would be benefactors from that rule, I think. I see where you're going with that.
Starting point is 01:34:19 I mean, you want them to get your shots in? Yeah. I hate that. Like, I'm from Pittsburghsburgh obviously you're from ohio we grew up in the cold okay i grew up in the fucking cold there's blizzards i had missed school there's ice i've you know i hate the fucking cold though i i hate when people are like oh he's from pittsburgh he'd be okay get used to it nope gets worse as you get older actually i think yeah i still fucking hate it let's not. Oh, you're wearing a long sleeve. I thought you were from Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 01:34:47 I am. Yeah, we learn these fucking work, dude. Like, you know, like when it's really cold. Yeah, like this is good. You're probably going to see me with gloves on, too, if I had to guess. And I'm going to fucking use this heated bench we have over here. Yeah. It is something as you grow older, the less amount of cold air you ever want to feel in your fucking body.
Starting point is 01:35:05 We may not hate it as much as people who have never experienced it their whole life, but it still fucking sucks no matter where you go. No, people that never experience it, it's a celebration. It's like a little sea and snow. It's a novelty. Snow is great, yeah. Snow, oh my God, I play a game of snow. That's like that whole thing.
Starting point is 01:35:21 And I'm like, another game. Fucking cold. It'd be nice if we get a little sun around man tateo another day exactly never seen yeah but third fourth quarter though the novelty does wear off i think absolutely cold practices too though we had a lot of cold outdoor practices those those can get difficult we did as well and that's i hated whenever i said that about the bangals indoor practice facility. Like, build a fucking indoor practice facility.
Starting point is 01:35:51 I get a bunch of Bengals players, oh, sorry, we're Ohio guys. We practice outside. It's like, yeah, you can fucking practice outside. Yeah. We're just talking about like extra reps and not getting pneumonia or having to worry about a car crash on the highway over top of the thing. Or after hours, maybe you don't want to turn on the lights to the entire outdoor practice facility. You can go in your indoor facility. That's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 01:36:11 Yeah, sounds soft to me. You can do all that outside. It's like, okay, yeah, I'm sure you can. Be a human, though, as well. And that's the whole game of the whole thing. That's unbelievable to think of not having any reprieve from that. It's like, hey, listen, guys, you get it. It's going to be cold today, okay? It's going to be cold today. It's going to be cold
Starting point is 01:36:26 tomorrow and the next day and the day after. That's unbelievable. Depending upon who you play, though, that is how practices go. Practices outside, you're playing an outdoor game. Practices indoor, you're playing an indoor game. That's just standard operating procedure. In Cincinnati, though, they did the schedule where you come in, meet, breakfast,
Starting point is 01:36:42 whatever, get your jersey on, go walk through, and then come back, have lunch. That's kind of the old school formula that some coaches used to do. I'm sure they still do. But we would take 20 minutes to get dressed for walkthrough because we would walk through on the game field in Cincinnati. So you're in the stadium, go to your locker, guys are putting starter coats on in 35 layers
Starting point is 01:36:59 just so you can do walkthrough out there in the freezing cold. It wouldn't be bad to maybe be able to move a little bit during a walkthrough. Or see a coach's face. He's so bundled up I can't even see him. Made a Super Bowl with all this. Made a Super Bowl with all this. Think about what this team is going to be able to do. I like the Bengals a lot.
Starting point is 01:37:18 Oh, yeah. I like the Bengals a lot all of a sudden. Joey Burrow, too, seems like the guy we'd like. Online. He wants to go to dive bars. Respect. Yes. Joey Burrow is a guy that we like. Online. He wants to go to dive bars. Respect. Yes. Joey Burrow's the guy that we like.
Starting point is 01:37:26 Now, I do believe he probably could. If you go to the right dive bars, you probably could. Probably scared to do it, though, because everywhere he goes, he says it's a full production. I thought that was a great way to describe what life is like, probably, in the public for him and other people that are like him. It's always a scene. There's always going to be something.
Starting point is 01:37:43 Especially here, though. Like, Joe Burrow is nationally, internationally internationally around the world is known and loved but in ohio man it's a different thing like people they've always loved him but they are just obsessed now because he is like he look like how in the world did this happen the bangles were lucky enough to get joe burrow and he's already done this so early in his career and he seems to be so fucking cool yeah like just seems to be like the coolest dude of all time so i'm at the ufc fight coolest looking fucking guy of all time didn't even know who he was he was so fucking cool for like a minute and a half two minutes i just fucking had a full oh my god this guy's so cool spell kind of tossed over top of me that i talked
Starting point is 01:38:20 to him he's so good at football hey you're a homebody now though joe that's what it is that's that's just kind of how this goes it becomes a full up and i think he knows that he knew that lsu i mean lsu that dude is a god so i'm sure that he couldn't go anywhere started yeah i i think those quarterbacks have to live that different life for a long time i remember thinking about that with like manziel whenever he came out i was like hey you just party at home now dude like like in my gear house like somebody just needs to tell him like hey you just party at home now dude like like in your house like somebody just needs to tell him like hey you just party at home now that is how it goes it sucks i understand believe me i'm a person that enjoys going out but i'm not a person that's as popular as you are as
Starting point is 01:38:55 known as you are or somebody that's going to try to egg you into a situation as much as you are using your party at home but some guys can't do it feels like joey burrow has bought all the way the fuck in that who he is what what he is, how he is. It would be nice to go to a dive bar every once in a while, but teach your own. Let's kind of move on. That fucking guy is going to be a guy for a long, long, long time. Everybody loves him.
Starting point is 01:39:16 The analytics people love him. The super football film people love him. The technique people fucking love him. Everybody loves that guy as a prospect and as a quarterback. Good for Cincinnati. And they have an indoor practice facility that's currently being built. Yeah, and they have Jamar Chase. I feel like how many teams in the NFL are looking for either a number one
Starting point is 01:39:35 stud wide receiver or the guy at quarterback, and they have them both, and they're both under 25. Ty, what do you think of the Bengals? Do you like them? Yeah, very much so. I do, too. They're bringing in a bunch of tight ends, though. They feel like they're weak in a tight end position.
Starting point is 01:39:47 Joe Mixon, no one really talks about him that much. He's very good. They put a bunch of money into the offensive line. McPherson, too. It seems like close games, especially. He's going to make kicks. Exactly. There's a lot to like about the Bengals.
Starting point is 01:40:00 Huber won that kicking competition at Baby Cowboys. They brought someone in to compete? Yeah. I think Drew Chrisman, the guy from – Ohio State. Yeah. I think he was in it. I don't know if it was real competition or not.
Starting point is 01:40:11 I don't know if there was another kicker other than Drew Chrisman, but I think there was, and I think it was Drew Chrisman, who I'm a fan of as a human and as a content creator and everything that he does. But I was pulling for Huber hard there. I love Huber. He's awesome. Me too. Huber Huber hard there. I love Huber. He's awesome. Me too.
Starting point is 01:40:26 Huber is my draft class. He played at Cincinnati. I played at West Virginia, obviously at big e-schools. He and I got to know each other through that. I talked to him one warm-ups. I was like, we're just kind of getting to know each other at West Virginia. And we had a game. It was probably a primetime game.
Starting point is 01:40:41 I had a guest. Cincinnati was good. They had Brian Kelly. And he goes, when did you start kicking or whatever? And I just had started punting, I think, for West Virginia. It just happened midseason. And I told him, like, oh, yeah, I started punting, like, actually, two weeks ago.
Starting point is 01:40:54 Like, actually, this rollout style, like, probably two weeks ago. I was like, when did you start? He was like, when I was 14, I started punting. I'm like, well, what an advantage. All right, I'm going to watch this guy. Like, I watched Huber, and I, like and I got better because I watched fucking Kevin Huber, even though he was a lefty. And then I got a chance, obviously, at the Pro Bowl.
Starting point is 01:41:11 We were there at the same time, hang out with him, had some drinks with him. I fucking love that guy. I'm a big Kevin Huber fan. Went to high school in Cincy, college in Cincy. Has been a bangle now for what, fucking 12 years, 13 years. What a legend that dude is. Lefty.
Starting point is 01:41:25 The old lefty punter. The old Bill Belichick trick, right? Yeah, old Bill Belichick trick. He kind of stopped doing that. Now he's got Jake Bailey because whenever he was doing it, there was only one or two in the entire NFL. Now it's like there's more so returners aren't startled that the balls go in the other direction.
Starting point is 01:41:40 So Bill Belichick was like, all right, we don't have to just have lefties. I'm about pissed off with people doing this. Yeah, like Ryan Allen. If you can hear a little sense out of my voice because I said like, oh, Brett Kern's going to go Buffalo. Brett Kern fucking like one of the greatest punters of all time, and everybody's like, Brandon Bean only takes left foot at punters. I'm like, Brandon Bean has a brain.
Starting point is 01:42:00 Okay, I'm assuming that is not how this is going to go, but that was a thing with bill for a long time because there was only like one or two yeah so whenever you would show up it was an extra thing that the other team had to prepare for just one more thing that the team that was playing against patriots had to think about had to bring in a guy but now it's like much more common situation so i think that's why it has kind of died off a little bit yeah it's like 10 15 years and then in the super bowl against the Rams, it kind of was like Ryan Allen versus Johnny Hecker. And then the year
Starting point is 01:42:28 after that, after Ryan Allen had like three punts of 60 yards in the Super Bowl, a couple of them obviously rolled and got the right bounce. Doesn't matter! No yard left behind. Still in the books, but then Jake Bailey came in and beat him out. And Bailey was, it feels like the first right-footed
Starting point is 01:42:44 punter since 2008 or something. He bombs fucking balls. Crushes them. This guy doesn't leave the ground either. I don't understand it. I don't understand how he does it. How do you do that? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:42:53 He's a beast. Anywhere for the Brantley Clash. For the Brantley Clash. I forgot about that. Stanford, good dude, kills the ball, though. So much fun. So much fun to watch him kick a ball. But Sam Martin ends up getting that
Starting point is 01:43:05 job with buffalo bills he's a righty so we're back in the game i guess buffalo righties are allowed to punt in buffalo new york let's go to the phones we're supposed to do that 22 minutes ago what was old buddy doing when he punted the ball 25 yards down the field in the college game a south carolina state guy he's awesome yeah that tweet that tweet of them saying what was this and I quote you it was awesome like hey listen I don't know it was certainly not legal you're not allowed to punt the ball past the line of scrimmage which uh he will learn that lesson in a big way last night but I guess he converted on a fourth and eight earlier in the drive that same drive with the same thing we saw this come last year he was running all the way up to
Starting point is 01:43:45 the line whether or not he decided or thought he could make a first down he would punt late it was awesome to watch and he that's where Shaq Leonard went to school so I posted about him then Shaq Leonard hit me up he's like hey this dude's awesome great athlete obviously great punter a good guy so I remember this guy from last year. I'm happy on their opening night. He decided to fucking say, hey, those who thought that I maybe had slowed down, I have not. I have sped up. Him running eight yards down the field on a fourth and 18 and murdering a ball and it not getting blocked, I think, is incredibly impressive.
Starting point is 01:44:20 But against the rules, which is a damn shame, we should see more of that, AJ. Do you think guys were even trying to block it? They were trying to attack. This dude, he can't punt the ball down here. Well, this is kind of like whenever a quarterback pump fakes seven yards down the field. James. And gets everybody kind of jumpy used to get him. I wonder if he'll start fake punting.
Starting point is 01:44:37 He should. He should. He should. I don't know how often it's going to work against other guys that have a scheme to block said type of punt. But I think that dude's athletic enough to do whatever the fuck he wants. I love him. I think he wore a hoodie under his pants last year. I fucking love him.
Starting point is 01:45:02 I forget his name. I should know his name. But I fucking love that guy. A little stuff like that, is like which i forgot about is like why college football is awesome because you know you've never seen that the nfl obviously but it is nice like some of these smaller schools seeing it i'm excited for this weekend so in college and on a punt everybody and i've said this numerous times, so I don't want to sound repetitive. Like a mark? All right, we're going to shut up. Repetitive is the right thing.
Starting point is 01:45:32 Okay. Not like a fucking mark. Jeez. Okay? I apologize that AJ even said that before I'm about to. I apologize to the information I'm about to say. Okay. Because AJ shouldn't have said that before the said information gets said.
Starting point is 01:45:47 So in college, the punting rules are different than the NFL rules. That is why you see a lot of the rollout punts, like the guy from Pitt last night who just hung on to that rock as long as he possibly could. Did not see, I think he did not see or expect old buddy to come late. C.J. Donaldson Jr., I believe, was the one who did the block. Same number. He was number 12.
Starting point is 01:46:08 Same number. Don't know if it was him or not. If it is, the guy might win a fucking Heisman. Sure. He's an unbelievable freshman or running back for West Virginia as a guy. I think he's playing special teams as well. But that punter was holding onto the ball as long as possible because in college, everybody is allowed to cover the punt,
Starting point is 01:46:23 leave, and go past the line of scrimmage before the ball is kicked. So the longer you delay by going to the right, the longer you can kind of extend your motion, the further down the field your coverage team can get, which means what? No return at all. If they're going to catch it, it'll be a fair catch. And if it gets on the ground, they're not going to catch it because there's literally four guys normally right around it. So it's a return killer, basically, taking your time and doing this. He did not see old buddy come off late. This is an Aussie rules thing that has been adapted into American football.
Starting point is 01:46:53 We called it rugby for a long time because we didn't know that Australian rules football existed. And we didn't know because the commentators kept calling it a rugby kick. It's actually an Aussie rules kick. And Aussies are the reason why it has come into the American game for so much. Now, the reason why there's so many more Aussies in college than there is in the NFL is there's only 32 jobs, obviously, but there's a very different style of punting needed for the NFL because only two people are allowed to leave the line of scrimmage before the ball is punted, and those two people are the
Starting point is 01:47:24 furthest outside guys, the ones on each side. Those are the only two that are allowed to leave the line of scrimmage before the ball is punted. And those two people are the furthest outside guys, the ones on each side. Those are the only two that are allowed to leave the line of scrimmage. That's why whenever you see a double team on the Gunners, it's such a big deal because those two are the only motherfuckers that are allowed to cover before the ball is kicked, which probably takes about two seconds from snap to kick. So you have to have a much higher ball a much bigger hang time or you got to have a gunner that's a fucking dog and if you do you try to keep that guy around for as long as you can a la slater in new england and a couple others around the nfl bethel as well uh who was
Starting point is 01:47:58 miami miami dolphin now formerly the cardinals and the patriots so that is why you see the rollout punt in college and you don't see it really in the ninals and the Patriots. So that is why you see the rollout punt in college and you don't see it really in the NFL because the rules are built for that to have a much higher success rate in college with your coverage team getting down the field than it is in the NFL. And I will take my professor cap off and leave it right at that, AJ. Do you think, though, because – do you think the college game could change to the NFL rules on punt
Starting point is 01:48:23 because they want more returns because those are very exciting for people and we don't really get to see that much? That would be an easy rule to change. Because they wouldn't be doing that Aussie punt anymore then. I did a couple semi-Aussies in the NFL. A couple rollouts.
Starting point is 01:48:39 I hit one against Green Bay that might still be going. I mean, I fucking murdered. I think it was a penalty. No, roughing the punter afterwards. Hell yeah. Because you're allowed to rough the punter. Because if I act like I'm going to run, I am a runner, not a punter.
Starting point is 01:49:00 So, like, that's another reason why the NFL can't really. We can hit the punter, but you can't hit him late, like, after he lets it go, though. Yes, that's what happened. So I punted. I was running. I punted, I think, if I do recall. And it was the former Illinois coach that was a special. Ron Zook. It was Ron Zook for the Green Bay Packers.
Starting point is 01:49:13 They did a pool shoot. They did a fucking – they cheated. They did a pool shoot, and the guy hit me, I think, late. So Tom McMahon's dad – or Mitt's dad, Tom, was not happy. I mean, you're talking motherfucking across the field to the Zooka. I think they had settled their differences since then. But I think I did it once against Green Bay. I did it once against Denver.
Starting point is 01:49:34 I didn't hit it well at all. We tried it a couple times because in college, I got to the point where I could do that, and then I would hit this missile, like this low missile, that it was sick. It was sweet. Yeah, I've hit a couple of them that are probably still going. I hit one at UPMC whenever I was very hungover in some off season.
Starting point is 01:49:57 There was a Coles kicking camp happening at UPMC Training Center in Pittsburgh. And we had destroyed the south side the night before. And I was asked to come speak to these kickers, punters that were at this camp, and I should not have been speaking to anybody, so I showed up late. I did not. I did not want to speak to them. I gave a couple high fives, but I started fucking around kicking some balls, and I hadn't hit a rugby ball in some time,
Starting point is 01:50:18 or an Aussie rule ball, sorry, sometimes. So I rolled out to the right a little bit, and I hit that thing cleaner than I've ever hit a ball in my life. It hit the top of the fucking UPMC building and it sounded like an actual bomb went off. Everybody stopped. Everybody in the building stopped. It was the drunk guy in the middle of the field.
Starting point is 01:50:37 Sorry. Then I just walked away. I think I was in jorts. I think I was wearing jorts at the time. That's why we did it the next season. I was like, hey, Tom, I think we should think about this. Because Tom's like, if you can hit a ball 75 yards in the air, we should do that. We should figure out how to block.
Starting point is 01:50:52 We should try to block for that. But I couldn't get it as consistent enough. And with the NFL blocking, guys running like four fours, being like 6'5", there was no real comfort. There was no real comfort in me not getting killed doing it every time. That's pretty sweet, though. Yeah, it was. We tried.
Starting point is 01:51:07 The option of it. We tried. We tried our best. We did against Miami, too, down in Miami, that same game that Charlie Whitehurst blew his hamstring out. Oh, yeah. We moved tackle over. We even went tackle over.
Starting point is 01:51:20 So it looked like a college lineup, too. And I was just going to be, I was just going to hit it as far as I fucking could. It was like, hey, it was the last game of the season, I think. It was the last game of the season so it was like, let's fucking try some shit for next year. Let's see what we can do. And I don't think, I think I caught one of them.
Starting point is 01:51:37 I think one of them almost got blocked. The other coach knew what we were doing. He was a former Rutgers guy. Former Rutgers coach. So he knew exactly what we were doing. He brought the guy off the far end. Shiano? Shiano, my coach's No, it wasn't Sh doing. He was a former Rutgers guy, former Rutgers coach, so he knew exactly what we were doing. He brought the guy off the far end. Shiano? Shiano, my coach's name. No, it wasn't Shiano. He was at Rutgers.
Starting point is 01:51:49 The guy was a special teams guy. I knew him from Rutgers. When I was at West Virginia, he was at Rutgers. Then he was Miami Dolphins special teams coordinator. So after the game, there was a fool, hey, look like college again. I was like, yeah, you're a fucking guy on the screen. Took my leg off. Because they knew to bring the backside like a backside sprinter is how you
Starting point is 01:52:10 fucking just murder that because punter can't see it and that guy probably not getting blocked because everybody's blocking front side so everybody's kind of motioning right so the back left is where you are and you're only going to roll to the right too because you're not going to punt rolling left right unless you're a lefty then obviously are. And you're only going to roll to the right, too, because you're not going to punt rolling left, right? Unless you're a lefty, then obviously reverse it. Then you obviously reverse it. And that's why they're like, oh, this guy can punt with both feet. It's like, it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:52:33 People will know immediately upon. It's great. It's very athletic. But I don't think it's really changing the game at all. Darren Rizzi, I believe is his name, was that Rutgers special teams coach and Dolphins special teams coach. Yeah, that's him. That's the guy.
Starting point is 01:52:45 Good guy. I mean, we had great conversations throughout my time in college and in the NFL, but he almost fucking ruined it. Hey, Con, the Patriots old special teams legend. He was coaching. Is he still coaching? Oh. Old special teams legend. Oh.
Starting point is 01:52:59 Back in the day. Like, he was there when early. He probably has two or three rings. He's very famous. He's awesome. Vinny talks about him. He's not there anymore. I know that. He's the godfather of this whole special teams thing. He probably has two or three rings. He's very famous. He's awesome. Vinny talks about him. He's not there anymore. I know that.
Starting point is 01:53:06 He's the godfather of this whole special teams thing. He was with the Giants for a little bit. He was coaching us. He was with Belichick for a while then. Yeah, he was. Giants, probably Cleveland. But, no, they kept the same special teams coordinator that replaced Joe Judge when he left. And that's why Joe Judge is the QB coach.
Starting point is 01:53:22 Joe Judge. We had an onside kick on him. They fucked us. He's a dog when it comes to special teams. He's very good, yeah. He was also on the fucking field. Is he coaching special teams for the Patriots too? No, they kept the same guy.
Starting point is 01:53:35 I forget what college. He's probably running cards or some shit. He's got to be helping, right? Yeah, the guy who's the special teams coordinator now was like his protege when Judge was with the Patriots. And they had a very good special teams after Judge left. They were the number, I think they were the number one special teams unit in 2019. Brad Seeley.
Starting point is 01:53:54 I'm thinking Izzo from back in the day. Really? I don't know. Izzo, he was a special teamer with the Patriots, and then he's been coached. I don't know why I thought. He was one of my favorite players. How about fucking Bubba Ventron, dude? Yeah. I mean, he's been coached. I don't know why I thought – he was one of my favorite players. How about fucking Bubba Ventrone, dude? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:05 I mean, he's – What about him? Jim Irsay, one of his first answers or one of the first things he said whenever we talked about the team that they had last year versus this year, he was like, I had to look around and see what we had the best of. We had the best running back. We had the best offensive line. We had the best special teams coordinator, Bubba Ventrone.
Starting point is 01:54:25 Like, said his name. I was like, God damn. Bubba's a Pittsburgh guy. Played, I think he played for the Steelers for a bit. He was with the Patriots most of the time, though. I think he ended with the Steelers back at home, I think. His brother might have played as well. But I told Bubba as soon as I saw him, I'm like, hey, man.
Starting point is 01:54:42 Ursae's first answer today, basically, was that you're the fucking best special teams coordinator in the NFL. So, I mean, I know you're not a businessman. You just want to kind of do the job and do the job right. It's a fucking great clip to have just going forward as a fellow Pittsburgh guy. Yeah, mention him being a head coach. Yeah. Not just like a good special teams coordinator, like some guy that will continue to rise the ranks. Pittsburgh guy.
Starting point is 01:55:04 Did Joe Judge hurt that, though, for special teams guys getting head coaching gigs? Oh, Harbaugh. Harbaugh. Harbaugh's still a guy. That's right. Harbaugh's still a guy. Harbaugh's still a guy. I think Darren Simmons could do it, too.
Starting point is 01:55:13 Cincinnati special teams coach. He's interviewed for some head gigs. I love that man. Why is he all – he's just because he's such a good special teams coordinator? They just keep him around and he never wants to leave? Yeah, honestly, he's awesome. I told you. I told him day one
Starting point is 01:55:25 first meeting i'm like hey man like this is my 10th year i've learned a lot just sitting in this meeting like you yeah he just has a great rapport he knows how to handle guys he works works his balls off i don't know maybe he will actually get a head coaching job at some point he's been like three four head coaches though right yeah oh yeah he's been there for a long time yeah and he looks like he's you know 35 he's got this for a long time. Yeah, and he looks like he's, you know, 35. He's got this fucking visor on. He really – He goes crazy every game. Like, yeah, he's –
Starting point is 01:55:48 Danny Smith could be a coach. Who's that? Danny Smith. We hope. I mean – I fucking hope they let Danny Smith be a head coach. The Steelers special teams coordinator. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:55:57 Hey, Danny. Danny's going to be shown this by numerous people, whether it's his kids or people around the building. Hey, Danny, why don't you chew some fucking gum and go get some head coaching interviews? Okay, let's go, pal. What do you say? And don't forget about Richie Passaccia.
Starting point is 01:56:10 I was going to say, do you think that he'll get another head coaching opportunity? I did forget about Richie Passaccia. If he can fix the Packers special teams. That's going to be a tall task. Yeah, bingo. But I think everybody loves that fucking guy, right? Everybody loves that guy.
Starting point is 01:56:22 That's what it takes. Special teams coordinators, and this is always chatted about, when Rich Passaccia was named the interim head coach, the first, the talking point for everybody that has ever been in the NFL was like, well, special teams coach has talked to the whole team. Offense talks to the offense mostly. Defense talks to defense mostly. The special teams coordinator has got to reach every single room.
Starting point is 01:56:43 And even the big guys because field goal unit and field goal block. That is the talking point, but it's real. They have to be able to relate to so many motherfuckers. There are so many different motherfuckers playing in the NFL at different positions. From corner to offensive linemen, special teams coordinators have to be able to relate to and reach and get to buy in on something that none of them like. So I think more special teams coordinators would be good head coaches, but it's going to take a couple of the top guys to really get that opportunity
Starting point is 01:57:11 to prove it, I think. Yeah, it is. I mean, you laid it out perfectly. They do. They have to hold guys accountable. They have to be there and make them care about something that is secondary to most every player. Like, hey, no, I'm supposed to be a starter, man.
Starting point is 01:57:23 I'm supposed to be on the field. I'm supposed to be a corner or wideout, whatever. on the field i'm supposed to be a corner or wide out whatever and the coach said yeah you're supposed to bud but this is where you're gonna this is the only way you're getting on the field is if you show that you can play on special teams here i know you haven't done it in a while but you got to buy in and do it and it's cool to see when they actually do it you see guys that maybe like we're like oh come on man i'm not i'm above that you know guys come in sometimes and think they're above special teams and then seeing them buy in, understand the process, and respect the coach and the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:57:48 I'm like, all right, it's cool, man. It's a tough gig, though, to get somebody that doesn't want to be there to eventually, like, start playing very well on special teams. And has never played it before. It's a different world. Yeah, it's a different sport. Not only do they not want to be there, they've never played it before, but the coach has to somehow give them a conversation in a proper laid out fashion how some guys very direct some guys
Starting point is 01:58:10 make things a joke and like the hard stuff make it a little bit joke let's bypass that some guys have different ways to make people realize like hey this is your life but it is a difficult thing to say hey you are a starting linebacker in Dwayne Johnson's league. Okay. In this league, you're a left guard on the punt team. So that message with getting that person to buy in and then teaching them. They have to teach them fundamentals like going back to having a, how do you do a three-point stance? How do you do that?
Starting point is 01:58:43 That's what people have to do. They have to teach fucking adults that are good enough to make it to the NFL and other positions how to do a new job. All right, you need to do a pass set, basically. Stay right on the fucking line. What do you mean? Like, yeah, kick your leg. Yeah, yeah, you're close there. And guys are like, I backpedaled before.
Starting point is 01:59:00 I've done this before. I've never had to fucking kick. Okay, yeah, and if you take one, like one wrong step, we're going to pump block and we lose the game on you. You don't have a job at all. Okay, this is great. Yeah, and also get a hand up. And if a twister comes, you've got to get them.
Starting point is 01:59:13 I've never done any of this before. We know, yeah, we've got to give them two days, figure the fuck out, okay? Like that is what special teams is. I don't know how it doesn't become a fucking explosion more, you know? Also, though, that guy that you just that that coach taught him to kick slide and do all that okay let's say you go into the game first quarter that guy whoever's starting that guy's position gets hurt he gets bumped in the starting lineup this guy comes off a punt team i gotta coach up some other kid put him in a guard who's probably
Starting point is 01:59:38 never done it well not only that the guy that was trying to learn how to fucking punt set did zero studying for the game but now he has to run punt reps kickoff reps and now he's on the defense that he did not because he's begging to get off something man coach just get me off kickoff at least something i'll do a punt i'll do a punt i'll do one punt i'll do one pump for you jack doyle was the fucking best man jack doyle is my favorite story because we picked him up he got released by the titans he's a local guy here he comes in he's a tight end didn't really talk to anybody just super quiet hard-working guy but day one he was good at everything like tight end he was running the right routes he was doing
Starting point is 02:00:14 everything right special teams he was just doing his thing and he made his team being like my left wing or whatever pretty big job especially because most of my punts going this way even my punts to the left so he's on the back side of that I needed. He's got this big beard, good guy. We have a good rapport. And then he started playing on offense a lot more because he wasn't, and they didn't take him off. And he's not the type of guy that would bitch at all to get off. So it's almost like he was certainly taken advantage of,
Starting point is 02:00:38 but we knew he'd do his job. Him openly coming up to me being like, hey, let's get this one off quick and like while i'm jogging on the field like hey this one i'm not covering it and we need to get this one i got you dude hey i got you dude yeah like that was uh it would like i would like laugh like in his face almost while he's fucking full on dying and you know you watch the film back obviously jack locked his guy up. Jack got his coverage lane, like he did his whole thing. But that's
Starting point is 02:01:08 literally his thoughts before a punt, like oh my god, everything I've done means nothing if I fucking give up a block right now. If I give up a block right now, nobody will remember anything that I fucking did. It's a nightmare. I don't know how it is in a bigger fuck up every single game. In the NFL, in college, in anything.
Starting point is 02:01:24 Because the amount of moving pieces it's just any play could be the fucking end of it honestly well that's like how common is it for like the packers who like they've their special teams has kind of been like the hey you can't let this be the reason you lose a game late for like can that even change like you even if you hire rich passaccia like can that change you think so yeah because the little things right it's all absolutely can change yeah and it's a whole new, right? It's all the little things. Absolutely can change, I think. And it's a whole new mindset. You just got to get people to buy in that they're doing it.
Starting point is 02:01:49 So I don't know what the culture is about special teams around that building. I assume it's been very negative for a long time. Rich Passaccia, from what everybody said, is a guy everybody rallies around and loves. So if he's the leader of the group, I think you can change it. I think you can. Don't you, AJ? 100%. And those guys are super detail
Starting point is 02:02:05 oriented. The great special teams coaches, like I said, Darren, Keith Armstrong, who's down in Tampa Bay now, I think is a special teams genius. He's had some head coaching interviews as well. They're so detail oriented. And just how they set things up, I'm like, oh, this makes so much sense now. You're not killing us. But I understand completely, hey, if I'm running down on kickoff and I see him setting up this way, I know this return is going this way. Okay, they're setting up like that. The return is going up the middle. They teach little things like that to get guys to understand what's happening.
Starting point is 02:02:35 It's like the psychology almost of it. Yeah, why? Okay, what's happening? I think they do a good job breaking it down. Okay, they got three returns. If you see this in front of you, you attack his face. If you see him double, you split him. If you see this, you got to go on his left side
Starting point is 02:02:50 because you know they're trying to cut you off to get to that side of the field. I think just like any coaching, you explain the why people will buy in a lot more. You explain why we're doing what we're doing. Hey, this person is going to flash you. They're going to flashball you. They're going to think you're going to think they're hitting you. They're flashing you. And then they're going to go and de-cleat this guy right over here.
Starting point is 02:03:09 Your guy, one of our other guys. So when he comes to flash you, need you to chip him. Okay. Need you to chip that guy because he's going to go fucking kill our person over there. And if he does that, get look at the fucking, huh? You see the lane that happens here. It's like that type of stuff is what i think makes you better makes you worse and if you can get people to buy into those things i think we had the fourth
Starting point is 02:03:30 down army for a bit and it was like people i think our squad like enjoyed going out and took pride take pride in it yeah yeah we were fucking really good i was really lucky to be surrounded by incredible guys we had a core unit of like six guys that were backup safety backup running back backup linebacker tight end and it was like we don't know what's going to happen on the offensive defense side of the ball but we know in our particular unit we are going to beat the fuck out of people and we did we didn't give up a return yard for like 13 weeks 14 weeks or something like that but every single week it was like a celebration though but you had the same guys though right like that's yes that's how at ohio state coach trestle says
Starting point is 02:04:08 from day one punt the most important play in football i played left wing for four straight years at ohio state in the old school pocket kick slide stay on the hip and my freshman year i'm sitting out there playing left wing and we went 14-0 won the national championship somehow and we had a lot of very close games i'm'm like, I probably should not have been there. Like, that's a tough spot. If I take one extra kick slide, I don't stay on the hip, who at the time was Matt Wilhelm, All-American middle linebacker playing tackle right there that year.
Starting point is 02:04:33 If I get off his hip, they go right there. That's a great little lane for them to run and block this punt. We may not win a national championship. Like, I was like, I don't know. I'm glad I didn't think about that in the moment. How about this? Yes, I look back on a lot of shifts. And I'm like, man, I'm so nervous oh my god how nervous i had to be so how did i do that you by the way thanks for buying into fucking special yeah i loved it i took pride
Starting point is 02:04:54 we took a lot of pride in like our kick slide i'm like man okay i'll be with you man i promise you i will not leave your hip that's all just don't leave your guy don't leave your guy out to dry and stay with you they can't block it because they're not fast enough to go over the edge and get a block. So your discipline that you maintained through your entire life, back in the day it used to be your discipline of talking, right? He was a mute. That's right.
Starting point is 02:05:14 Now your discipline in your meal and your workout and your robotic days. But you never, in that national championship against the U, right? Yeah. So I'm assuming there were some dogs coming off the edge. Pretty good athletes, yeah. You fall for one, and you just kick out like this, and he hits you with an up and under, bang. I think the stats were like block kick.
Starting point is 02:05:33 If you block a kick, you win like 82% of the games or something like that. It makes me kind of nervous actually thinking going back, put myself in that game. I don't know how anybody does it because if I'm kicking and a guy gives me one, I'm like, oh, I'm going to go get it. And then it's literally the game is over. You lost that game. That's what I'm saying, dude. I don't know how anybody does it because if I'm kicking it, a guy gives me one. I'm like, oh, I'm going to go get it. And then it's literally the game's over. You lost the game.
Starting point is 02:05:49 You just lost the game. Thank you for coming. Hope you've enjoyed your football life. You just lost the game. That is kind of how it is viewed and kind of the outcome of it. And it's so minute and you have to buy in. I think it can be changed is what we're saying. We think it can be changed.
Starting point is 02:06:04 And Basacha feels like the guy. Yeah, he's got a PhD. All right, let's go to the phone line. We're supposed to do this 46 minutes ago. Good conversation on this field. Special teams rant. It was good because last night there was a lot of people, why does this partner hold on?
Starting point is 02:06:16 Ball's so fucking long. A lot of that. It was like, well, he's probably told to hold onto the ball a little bit longer. That's why they have him doing it. That's his style. I believe he's an Aussie. It looks like he's an Aussie. If not, he's American and does Aussie very well.
Starting point is 02:06:29 And I don't think he saw that guy coming. It was a big moment. Yeah, huge moment. Blocked punt. I'm like, oh, we won the game. Yeah. That was literally like, oh, we won the game. Start the half.
Starting point is 02:06:37 And obviously on the other side of stats, unless it's 100 or nothing. The stats are also not very good for winning the game. Fucking Bryce Ford Wheaton. I appreciate you're on the mountain here, because you're fucking really good. And I know your grandpa, Coach Ford, Garrett Ford, a senior they showed him at West Virginia running back. He was a stallion of a man. Bryce Ford Wheaton's coming back.
Starting point is 02:06:57 Yeah, for sure. That was devastating. Two tuds, big-time special team. This guy's a fucking guy. I think West Virginia can play. You know what, though? If you're going to get the ball 50 times a game like that kid's going to, some shit's going to go wrong, Bryce.
Starting point is 02:07:12 Fucking eat it and move on, bub. Don't you fucking worry about it. Now, that running back, Donaldson, he's a dog. He's a freshman. Yeah. 6'2", 2-something. Tight end, they said at the beginning. And they were like, but they had some sort of inkling that he wasn't just playing tight end.
Starting point is 02:07:28 He's going to get the ball. Yeah. We should have kept feeding. There was that fourth and couple inches in the fourth quarter. 50. You know. Oh, yeah. Six minutes left.
Starting point is 02:07:39 Perfect punt afterwards. You're playing against 17 in the country. Rivalry. Yeah. On the road. Your team is brand new. Literally, your team is brand new. All the people that are making plays for you right now, I mean, except for the diehards that are living in Morgantown,
Starting point is 02:07:57 have no fucking idea who these guys are. Still on defense. Dog. Love him. Thankful he's back. But other than that, I didn't really know who anybody was. I haven't paid attention close enough. You get that. I think you gotta go. I think you gotta. Hey, everybody can judge hindsight. I understand.
Starting point is 02:08:13 They go on. They pin them. They block that. They do the thing. He's a genius. That ends up not happening, but that was the big conversation piece after the game was what's the deal, bro? Why don't we go full decision? We got our entire offense lineback big conversation piece after the game was, what's the deal, bro? Why don't we go fourth and one? It's like we got our entire offense line back,
Starting point is 02:08:30 and we got a new run back that's bigger, faster, stronger, and everybody on the field. He said after the game, he said if I was put back in that situation, I'd do it again. See, can't do that. That's what we were talking about there earlier. Allowed to learn. Allowed to learn.
Starting point is 02:08:42 Allowed to learn from your mistakes. Allowed to evolve with more information and knowledge. So he knows how the outcome was, and he'd still go back and do it. I'd fucking do it again. He can't do it. Do it again today. That's like me going, you know what? I'll go back to 13-9, pull that one harder left. You know, I'll pull that one harder left, the first one,
Starting point is 02:08:58 and then the second one, I'm hitting that right in the back of one of our offensive linemen so hard that I actually injure him so it's worse. That's what that is. Why do you say that? Why do you do that? Coach Bryan. Means he'll do it again next time, right? But will there be another backyard brawl where nobody knows your team?
Starting point is 02:09:16 That's what I'm saying. So, like, saying, why did he say, you want the pit, though? Yeah. True. You also want to watch Virginia. True. Maybe that's what the book said to do. Is that why, Nick? Did you listen to the full thing why i just saw a transcribe transcribe quote where he said you know put in that situation i'd do it
Starting point is 02:09:31 again okay it's hard trust climb neil if you say you go right back down to the campsite i had a bear eating everybody okay i don't know why we trust the climb. Once we get past it, you know, you just say, yeah, I'll go right back through that bear. Because you know why? Why's that? Because his team's going to be hardened by this. Hell yeah. That's right.
Starting point is 02:09:54 So that's why he'd go back and get the same exact outcome. His team's going to be hardened by this, and we're going to carry it through the rest of the season. Still a lot of games to be played and a lot of growth to be had for this Mountaineer team. That's why Neil Brown said, I trust the climb. The fuck? Yeah, I don't know if that That's why Neil Brown said, I trust the climb. The fuck? I don't know if that guy's ever reaching the summit, unfortunately. What? He had fire last night.
Starting point is 02:10:10 He just had fire yet? He did. He did. You want to win that Thursday game, too. As a college kid, that Thursday game, if you win, you get the whole weekend. As a college student, you can go hang out. Well, his first weekend in college, they're going to have a good time working regardless. But you're right.
Starting point is 02:10:23 It would have been a much better vibes. Yeah. A lot easier to get into that good. And all those insufferable pit Panthers. Oh my God. For the rest of the fucking year. There was, you know what I mean? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:10:34 You hate pit, huh? I partied there. I had a good time there, but yeah, I mean, worst night of my life was because of that fucking school, you know? So I will remember that. See if a Phil is like a super pit mark he's fucking disgusting did he go there yeah yeah his whole fucking family did no he's brainwashing his kids into thinking there's no other school it's like hey little phil what do uncle pat gets old you're
Starting point is 02:10:56 around 14 15 years old he's a hockey player right stud he's a great athlete yeah so he's gonna be he's gonna be in like alaska with a host family when he's 12. Minnesota, probably. But also, Phil is a hockey coach. Oh, okay. So, Phil, okay. You know what I mean? Can Phil skate backwards?
Starting point is 02:11:16 He can stop, too. It's crazy. He can spray ice? I got to figure that out. Like Mendoza. Let's go to the phones. Louie. Like Mendoza. Let's go to the phones. Yeah. Louie.
Starting point is 02:11:28 Luis Mendoza, yeah. Fastest guy you've ever seen, blue line to blue line. Couldn't stop. Yeah. Then he could. In the ice. Yeah. Took me a minute. There you go.
Starting point is 02:11:39 Mendoza. Holy shit. Good call. I'm so proud of me right now. Pretty good. Thank you. Let's go to the phones. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:11:48 You guys have all had some good ones as well. But that one felt really good right there. Let's go to Andrew in Los Angeles. Andrew, how's it going, pal? Sorry. Sorry we've been saying we're going to literally go to the phones for 51 minutes now. On a 5 Energy phone line, go to 5energy.com. Use promo code McAfee for 10% off.
Starting point is 02:12:06 And get one of those gas station stands. Don't be a fool. Order a carton, get a pallet. Don't do it one at a time. That's what the losers do. Drink them all at once. No, you don't have to. That's the great thing about 5RNG. You don't have to. You only need one.
Starting point is 02:12:21 And see you later. We're having a great afternoon. What do you want to talk about, Andrew, in Los Angeles? How's the traffic? Traffic's terrible, as always. Hey, Pat. How we doing? Keep it moving. Happy, feel-good Friday.
Starting point is 02:12:33 Ho, ho. Love that. Yeah. There we go. Andrew's a dog. Yeah, he's a dog. He's a dog. Sounds like a little bit of an aggressive dog.
Starting point is 02:12:40 I'm a dog. Hey, what do you want to talk about, dog? Hey, I want to talk about my favorite team, lifelong fan. Jerry Jones owned and operated Dallas Cowboys. Usually when we have high expectations, we do pretty bad. Like a couple years ago when A.J. Hawk had us in the Super Bowl, we won like six games. Then next quarter we got decapitated and nobody helped him up.
Starting point is 02:13:07 Anyways, we seem to have low expectations. People on Hammer Don and ESPN saying the Eagle is going to win the division. I just wanted to get your thoughts on that and follow-up question. What do the boys think about Andrew Tate? Thank you, Andrew. Andrew Tate's the guy that got kicked off the internet?
Starting point is 02:13:23 Great question, Andrew. Is that Andrew Tate? Could have been. It off the internet? Yeah. Great question, Andrew. Is that Andrew Tate? Could have been. Could have been. Didn't sound like him, but could have been. I don't know who this person is, but I would enjoy the fact if somebody was getting kicked off the internet that they decided to call into live shows on the internet. That would be sweet. That would be cool. That would be hilarious. That'd be an Alex Jones
Starting point is 02:13:40 move. My name's Carl. Carl from Kansas. We are so broke. Just lying. Yeah. What a fucking menace.
Starting point is 02:13:55 Andrew Tate. I don't know anything about him, though. I seen he was kicked off the Internet. I'm sure it'll work out. You know, I don't. I'm sure it'll work out. What did he do? I've seen a lot of his, like, whatever his rants.
Starting point is 02:14:05 What officially got him kicked off the internet? Do we know? So I don't even know what his rants are. Is he a political guy? Is he a pop culture guy? Is he a sports guy? I thought he was, like, a dance electronic guy. He's a DJ?
Starting point is 02:14:17 I don't know if he is now. He was a kickboxing champion. He was a big no-man guy. Very pro-man. Yeah. Oh, okay. Possession, ownership of of women stuff like that oh great so andrew in la wants to know what our thoughts are on andrew tate i guess sounds like uh glowing reviews from the back room here about who he is sure the internet kicked him off uh that's what i'm reading from headlines like i've never seen his content oh i'm sure
Starting point is 02:14:43 andrew tate be pissed that that was what the headline was. Nonetheless, we don't fucking know who he is. I don't know who he is. I'm sure it'll all get worked out. I'm sure it'll all end up great, too. I'm sure there'll be no drama at all around it. The kicked off the internet thing is interesting, though. Yeah, you got to do a lot of stuff for that to happen.
Starting point is 02:14:59 Different guys are. Some note guys got their YouTube, right, Steve? Yeah, I think so. He's trying to give back. Do they give it back, Steve? Yeah, I think so. Oh, shit. He's trying to give back. Do they give it back then? How does that work? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:15:11 I don't understand any of it because- Because that's a big deal for one of those guys to get your channel pulled. Yes, for sure. But just to be kicked off the internet, definitely a big deal to get your channel pulled. Yes, we have gotten strikes from people that we thought were close to getting our shit pulled. We do not enjoy that at all because YouTube, for all of its gripes that everybody has for them, we've been able to operate as an independent show with zero. We are very thankful. So it would be huge for us.
Starting point is 02:15:36 And there's channels that are much, much, much, much, much, much, much larger and obviously much better than ours that would depend upon it every single day and their business and their life and everything like that. But I don't know. How do they just ban you from the internet? That process doesn't even make any sense to me. So is it your IP address? It's just platforms, right?
Starting point is 02:15:54 No, I think, yeah. Like Andrew Tate, I think it's like Instagram. It's a lot of stuff. I don't think it's just one. So he cannot sign up for another account. He cannot create a new email. He cannot do anything to get another account. The last time we saw this was Alex Jones.
Starting point is 02:16:08 And how did that work? I still have no idea. I just kind of went with, oh, he's banned. I remember Alex Jones tried to create new accounts and they would just delete it right away. Oh, so they're actively seeking Andrew Tate's new accounts,
Starting point is 02:16:24 finding him. People would upload Alex Jones videos and you'd see it on youtube regardless but where were his videos being showcased to anybody yet on his website so he wasn't banned from the internet no just banned from social media yeah well you'll still find him in reels there'll be clips of him on podcasts and different shows but somebody else posted it not him it was all other people i think putting us on so that's what it means whenever you're kicked off the internet you're not able to have a platform on these social media sites yeah you can still get access to the internet and create your own website and everything like right okay so it's the next level shadow band right yeah it's a super duper shadow shadow band yeah it's an actual band it's a super-duper shadow ban. It's a super-duper shadow ban. Yeah, it's an actual ban. It's not a shadow ban.
Starting point is 02:17:05 Nothing shadow. It's a full ban. Yeah, so it's a real shadow ban. A ban ban. The shadow ban, they just act like it didn't happen. The actual ban, they come out and say it did happen. Yeah, this is very real. Okay, got it.
Starting point is 02:17:17 I've been shadow banned a couple times on a couple different platforms. I wonder why. I don't know. Oh, I know why. You used the word dude. You did use the word dude. Yeah, that was. Oh, yeah, that was on the NFL's comments.
Starting point is 02:17:30 That was awesome. I wonder if Omar's going to shadow ban me on the SportsCenter account. If you use bruh enough, he might. I'm starting to comment on the SportsCenter Instagram a little bit. I've been doing a lot of he is, isn't he to Omar. You know, Omar, SportsC, Bleacher Report, Checkdown.
Starting point is 02:17:49 What? Yeah. NFL. You named it. House of Highlights. He's running them all. You got Shadowband for saying dude? That's what they said.
Starting point is 02:17:57 Yeah, hate speech. That's hate speech? Yeah. Yeah. And then, yeah. I mean, that was the whole thing. Remember, I told the NFL social media person I was ready. We didn't have a deal done with NFL films at that time.
Starting point is 02:18:10 We were talking. I was willing to sacrifice it to take a stand, though. There's no reason for me to be banned from the NFL comments. So I just made a statement to the NFL social media person that they've done fucking nothing for the league. You've been handed something, and shut the fuck up, basically. If you want to ban me somebody that played in there covers it every fucking day like i don't i don't comment
Starting point is 02:18:29 ever so like that's why i didn't find out that i'd been you know shadow banned there was something with matt ryan happening i'm like i want everybody to know that i'm fucking on board with this guy i want everybody to know first time i was actually excited to comment because i guess this is what people do on instagram i don't do enough of it. Like commenting is how, you know, it's like a good time on there, I guess. I never fucking do it. I do it one time. Can't even see it.
Starting point is 02:18:53 Zero likes. So I got upset. And then turned out the NFL told me it wasn't a social media person. So I had to take back. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I don't.
Starting point is 02:19:03 I still don't. I don't take it back. Fuck you, person that banned me. Yeah, you shouldn't. Yeah didn't. I didn't. I don't. I still don't. I don't take it back. Fuck you, person that banned me. Yeah, you shouldn't. Yeah, because you definitely did. They told the people that don't understand the platforms that, oh, something must have happened, but they certainly did. And there's no reason to do so.
Starting point is 02:19:16 Other than just being a fucking punk, I think. Can't do it. Can't do it. That's these social media degrees. They're getting jobs. People like having power, man. They do. It's little That's these social media degrees. They're getting jobs. People like having power, man. They do. It's little yellow coats running the social media.
Starting point is 02:19:27 Exactly. It's little yellow jackets. Fucking hate them. You know the security people? Like concerts? Way low security. They have all the power. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:19:36 They do have a lot of power. They do not. They do not. I will drive right the fuck by. Not even. I'm not even entertaining a convo right now with you. I do not have time. They don't have the direction.
Starting point is 02:19:49 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm a bad person. They're just trying to do their job. I get it. I get it. I get it. Student drivers, I also give them a run around. Let them know shit ain't sweet out here.
Starting point is 02:20:01 You know how you welcome to the streets. That's a good learning experience. You should do that. If you do not beep your horn at least once at a student driver you are not making the course hard enough they are coming into our roads sure you're right okay prepare them exactly cut them off too oh yeah yeah you can't do anything that would require them to be a good driver for you not to get hit. So do with that as you may. Yeah, egg their car. They're going 50 on it.
Starting point is 02:20:30 No, you'll egg the student driver car. That's being owned by somebody who's making no money sitting there with these people. That'd be such a tough job. What if you were the instructor? I had four. They were called on-roads. I don't know what you guys called them. They were four hours at a time where I would drive a dude around.
Starting point is 02:20:43 Yep, and that guy fell asleep? I would have. No, he didn't. I don't know how. Do you them. They were four hours at a time where I would drive a dude around. Yep. And that guy fell asleep? I would have. No, he didn't. I don't know how. Did your guys' car have the brake pedal? Like the passenger brake pedal? Yeah, the student driver one, yeah. I think it has to.
Starting point is 02:20:52 It has to. Yeah. Ours didn't. Chicago's living dangerously. Ours didn't either. We could drive our own car, too, for our own roads. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:21:01 I don't remember. I think it was my teacher's car. Our guy definitely had the break Couldn't do it My guy fell asleep Just sleeping I wish my guy would have fell asleep Yeah my guy was one of our front row coaches
Starting point is 02:21:14 So we just drove around And hung out Yep Drank beers Packed in We drove around He fell asleep Like two or three
Starting point is 02:21:21 Like you had to stay underneath the limit But then Yeah Was there direction though Before he fell asleep Like go to this spot uh yeah we just went to like some dairy queen or something but yeah parking lot yeah he was great he was probably the best his best two driver ever had this dude's great no offense mr kerns r.P. Who? Do not say that. Come on. She's not dead. No, no, no. Really?
Starting point is 02:21:48 I think so. Is that the lady that got bit by the chimp? No. That's Mrs. Brooke, dude. That's Mrs. Brooke. Yeah, go Mustangs. Come on. Yeah, go Mustangs.
Starting point is 02:21:56 Go Mustangs, dude. We got the Foxes tonight. Fox Chapel. The yuppies taking on the Mustangs. Let's go. Rivalry week. Let's go, Mustangs. Every week's rivalry.
Starting point is 02:22:05 We got chips on our sword against everybody. Exactly. Is it purple and gold? Is that your colors? Damn right. Shut up, Connor. Stangs up, baby. Connor, you went to four high schools.
Starting point is 02:22:15 None of them were plump. One of them was plump in my heart. Let's get a couple phone calls. I think I saw Connor wearing a varsity jacket the other day. I did have my varsity letter on. Let's go to Nick in Texas. Nick, what's going on, pal? Nothing much, Pat. I was just curious because
Starting point is 02:22:31 they were starting to make kickoffs to the one-yard line. They did it last night in the West Virginia game, but they're doing it in the NFL. I'm curious if they're going to continue to do that, and what's your thoughts on it? College, it's just the fair catch thing changed everything. If you get the ball in the air down the field it's going to end up at the 25 so i think that's what a lot of people are doing i don't know why the balls aren't getting smashed
Starting point is 02:22:53 out in the nfl they're just right now they're trying to see who can cover who can't you'll see teams just blast it through the end zone every time i mean that is just something people do it depends on how your special teams unit is we're just talking about it if you If you've got a good group, you want to go ahead and tackle them. You want to go ahead and try to pin them. If you don't, hey, let's give them a ball at 20, 25, whatever it is. Let's move on. That's kind of how it goes. Is that what you want Mason to do, huh?
Starting point is 02:23:15 Yeah. I mean, hey, whatever it takes. Yeah, exactly. Fucking giving up six, seven return touchdowns a year. It's not always easy just to blast the ball through the end zone, by the way. No, no. Sometimes you can't with the wind. There are some stadiums, yeah, where it touchdowns a year. It's not always easy just to blast the ball through the end zone, by the way. No, no. Sometimes you can't with the wind, yeah. There are some stadiums, yeah, where it gets a little difficult.
Starting point is 02:23:30 And I'll never forget a couple guys, a kickoff team who also played defense and were just kind of playing a lot of plays. Let's say kickoff fourth quarter or so, middle of the quarter. We're up, let's say, 10 at the time. Pretty big defensive drive coming up. Hey, need a touchback here, Pat. Walking by. Need a touchback here.
Starting point is 02:23:48 Okay? Let's not do anything crazy. I mean, yeah, you got it, Pat. We're going right into about 10, 15 miles. Hey, I got a full drive coming up next, Pat. Need a touchdown. Just kind of walking off. It's like a real.
Starting point is 02:24:01 You got about 10 plays coming up, and I'm going to be already deathly winded if you put this thing at the three full sprint full force all-out effort hold your lane get double team probably and then run into a car crash and then they're spotting a ball you got to get back up and let's fucking go rush the past as soon as you get up though at the offense is sprinting onto the field too like that that seems to happen when you're in that situation where all of a sudden the offense is real antsy and they want to get to the line as fast as they can.
Starting point is 02:24:27 Can we slow this down a little bit? Hey, hell of a week. We can't thank you all enough. Big thanks to Stephon Diggs, Aaron Rodgers, obviously A.J. Hawk, you're the best, Darius Butler in studio all week. Can't wait to get the regular season started. Aaron Rodgers Tuesday was announced
Starting point is 02:24:40 for an unprecedented season three today. It was a hell of a Friday. You guys got hammered down today? Yeah, I'm a piss real quick. We got picks Friday, giving out all the picks for the weekend. Thank you for that. Talks to the table. Great job this week. Everybody in the back, fantastic. Ty, your Lou Holtz was really
Starting point is 02:24:55 the highlight of the week, buddy. I appreciate you. Ty, I got texts from random people I hadn't heard from in a long time about Lou Holtz, so Ty, you should be proud. Hell yeah. Universally beloved. James Franklin saw it. In a world full of fickle fans.
Starting point is 02:25:11 That felt to be universally loved. So I want to say thank you for allowing us to be a part of it. You bet. Thanks for letting me do it. We'll see you guys on Tuesday. We're off Monday. Oh, we're lazy. It's Labor Day.
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