The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 734 - College GameDay Announcement, Division/Awards Predictions, Feel The Beat With Sal Capaccio & Mark Kaboly, Kay Adams, Darius Butler In Studio, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: September 7, 2022

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about the official news that Pat will be joining College GameDay full-time, what that means for the show going forward, for his duties with WWE, and ho...w excited he is to be joining an American Institution. Plus they preview and pick their division winners, and who will win MVP, OPOY, DPOY, and Comeback Player of the Year. Joining the progrum to feel the beat ahead of tomorrow's NFL kickoff game between the Bills and Rams LIVE from LA is a true Buffalonian, beat writer for the Buffalo Bills, Sal Capaccio (20:28-31:29). Next, Pittsburgh Steelers beat writer and fan favorite Mark Kaboly joins the progrum to give a final outlook on the Steelers before the start of the season (32:01-47:54). Next, new host of Up & Adams on FanDuel TV, Emmy Winner and former co-host of Good Morning Football, Kay Adams, joins the progrum to chat about her new show on FanDuel TV, what she did in her off time, who she likes fantasy wise this year, which teams she's high on, and much more (57:36-1:20:47). Later, co-host of the NFL Power Rankings Podcast, writer for NFL.com, the preeminent authority on NFL Power Rankings, DanZeus, Dan Hanzus joins the show to chat about his power rankings as we embark on the 2022 NFL season (1:20:49-1:40:41). There's NFL Football tomorrow. We made it. Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Uh, hello beautiful people. It is a ho-hum, run-of-the-mill, standard Wednesday, September 7th, 2022, and this sports show shall begin right now. Football is here. Football is alive. Football is obviously what this show talks about most because that is what you would turn in to this show for. Now, we can talk about other things during the offseason and try to figure out what the fuck litigation is and grand juries are and indictments are and ham sandwiches, what did they do? Who knows? Got to go to court. There's a lot of contracts and new places and faces,
Starting point is 00:00:36 but we are just one day away from NFL kickoff. Let's enjoy the hell out of that. College football has already had an electrifying start. It feels like it is the greatest time to be alive, and it is the greatest time to be alive, especially when I get a chance to do this every single Monday through Friday at youtube.com forward slash the Pat McAfee
Starting point is 00:00:54 show noon to three ish EST. That'll never change. That is something that I will never give up. That is something that I cherish. This is a day job that other people would, you know, dream to have. And speaking of other people, that was me whenever I was playing in the league. When I was doing other things, I wanted to do this. I wanted to bullshit about sports with my friends. And somehow, we've been able to turn this into a profession. I don't understand how. I don't understand why. The show is very stupid. It's dumb.
Starting point is 00:01:28 We're a bunch of sports stooges. But we at least try to keep it light on a daily basis and hopefully give people a mental vacation. It has turned into something that I am passionate about and love more than any other chapter in the rest of my entire life. I will never, ever sacrifice this show for anything. This show will always be free for people and every conversation and decision that I have to make revolves around the energy that I have to perform this particular show with this great group of people. The Toxic Table's here at Ty Schmidt at Boston Corner.
Starting point is 00:01:56 One half of the Hammer died. Cowboys Tone Diggs is here. And yet again, like he will be all season, live in studio, a man who's never worked out before, our Darius J. Butler. Hey, D-Butt! That was good.
Starting point is 00:02:10 D-Butt came into our rack, lifted, did some presses of some sort. Military press. Military press of some sort. Then went to rack it and boom, boom, boom. You see weights fall off the whole thing. What a mark. Just happened about 20 minutes ago. Oh, clamps.
Starting point is 00:02:24 We don't need clamps because we're professionals around here. Goddamn right. Perfect for him. Also, we had clamps, and those are somewhere in the office. If you find them, we'd love to put those. It'd be great to have them back. Right back on that. Darius, it's great to have you here.
Starting point is 00:02:35 Boys, it's great to have you here. Everybody in the back, I appreciate the hell out of you. On today's show, we'll have Feel the Beat here in about 15 minutes with Sal Capaccio and Mark Caboli. Caboli. Caboli? Caboli? Are you sure? It's Caboli, dude. I don't like what he's up to. Me neither. Yeah. Sal Capaccio, obviously Buffalo Bills, beat writer.
Starting point is 00:02:55 They play tomorrow night. Try to get a Rams beat writer. Couldn't find anybody. Busy day. Can't get on. The day's schedule is difficult for everybody. We understand that. We appreciate anybody that takes time to do so. Marco Bolli said, hey, anytime you need me, I'm fucking on. That's right. So we'll talk to Marco Bolli.
Starting point is 00:03:11 And then we have Kay Adams, who's up an Adam show, debuted on FanDuel TV just yesterday. Day two today had a litany of guests, including Darius, who fucking crushed it on there. That show's very good. Oh, yeah. That show's going to do very, very well on FanDuel TV. They should all be very proud of that.
Starting point is 00:03:25 There we go, FanDuel TV. Congratulations to Kay on finding a home that she's going to crush and to FanDuel TV for happening. So when I led off the show, I talked about how much I love this particular show. And I love that we have the opportunity to do this. Will we be able to do this forever? No. Not because the boys aren't talented not because people everybody will stop
Starting point is 00:03:48 listening and stop watching which people should have already done that already I don't know if that's going to take place but because I'm going to run out like I know that
Starting point is 00:03:55 so this show will probably survive the boys without me in here and now there's no end in sight we're talking 3, 4, 5, 6, 10 years whatever the case
Starting point is 00:04:03 but I'm not going to be able to do this for the rest of my life, mostly because we've all seen me. I get sick of me so much. I will be sick of hearing my voice every single day the way it goes. So anytime there's any opportunities to do anything outside of this show, I always look at them. I'm always
Starting point is 00:04:16 interested, and I represent myself, so the conversations are always something nice to kind of learn about. When I got to start doing business with the WWE, it was fucking amazing getting to chat with them, learn about their business, learn about how they go about doing their doing business with the WWE, it was fucking amazing getting to chat with them, learn about their business, learn about how they go about doing their things. I think I've gotten a chance to take some stuff from the WWE, apply it to this business, make us better. And the people at WWE are proud of us for doing it and are willing to help and do everything. It's
Starting point is 00:04:39 like everybody I've ever worked with, I've had the opportunity to learn from, grow from, and experience life that I never thought I could experience. When I retired had the opportunity to learn from, grow from, and experience life that I never thought I could experience. When I retired from the NFL, went to Barstool, what an incredibly lucky opportunity for all of us, for me, to get a chance to learn from the people that have been doing it on the internet for a very, very long time, how they go about doing their business, what works, what doesn't work for me. I got a chance to kind of experience it all. Bob and Tom, whenever I was in the league, I got a chance to do their show on a weekly basis from 6 a.m. to 10 a.m. every single Tuesday, nationally syndicated radio show. I got to see how they operate, how they put their show together.
Starting point is 00:05:14 I'm just like incredibly, incredibly fortunate to be able to live and do the shit that I do and learn from the people that I get to learn from. You can go back. I got to learn from fucking Adam Vinatieri on how to be a punter, a ball kicker in the NFL. It's just, I am a lucky fucking human. I know that. I'm trying to enjoy it as much as possible. I'm living the dumbest life possible. I think I work my ass off.
Starting point is 00:05:36 So I think, you know, hopefully karma does come around a little bit. And if I didn't work my ass off, Tim and Sally McAfee would be embarrassed. But I think everything that happens to me, I always have to think back to what this show is, how this show goes, and what the future means for this show. So when WWE comes and they offer SmackDown, we go and get a house in Tampa Bay. We build a studio in the living room so that we can do the show live from Tampa
Starting point is 00:06:02 every single week whenever I go in to do the Thunderdome. Now, we had like 130-some thousand concurrence happening at one point live in a living room in Tampa Bay that Zito put together. There was 400 wires running around, three cameras, and we had 130-some thousand people watching on the Draft Spectacular, and we broke, I don't know, like four or five different sets of news just doing that. That is how we have always rolled around here how do we continue to do the show while also experiencing other things that nobody really should deserve to have the opportunity to experience
Starting point is 00:06:34 so whenever i got to do college game day a couple years back we were literally doing a show out of the back of a box truck a couple different times we continued to move i flew on six flights a week doing college game day. I was doing Thursday night football for them. I was doing Monday get up. I was got a chance to experience what the ESPN life is like. And ultimately at the end of my run with college game day, at the end of my appearances that were paid for, we decided like, Hey, don't know if now is the right time. Don't know if this is the right business. Don't know if it's the right time for my life, for the show, for their show. Didn't really know if it was the perfect fit.
Starting point is 00:07:06 So Jimmy Pataro and I have been in contact ever since. Now, we sat in his suite for the national championship game here in Indianapolis. He was very kind to let us in there. Good food. Hey, that suite had good food. I can imagine. That suite, much different food than the suite. No apples?
Starting point is 00:07:23 Now that I'm thinking about it. No apples? I mean, I didn't expect to put that in this whole. AJ only eats cheese coop. That's sweet. Much different food than the sweet that I'm thinking about. I didn't expect to put that in this whole... AJ only eats cheese cubes. I just found that out. Sometimes. Depends on the day. Of course. He would do his entire thing. But Jimmy Pataro and I have remained in contact
Starting point is 00:07:39 and conversation trying to figure out what works and how it works. The Omaha Productions offer came to simulcast six games. That's still happening, I do believe, unless there is some changes, but I do believe that is still happening. Haven't talked to the Omaha folks since this has been announced last night at 11 p.m. Thanks, Marshawn. I mean, at least give me the morning.
Starting point is 00:07:58 I mean, Jesus Christ, at 11 p.m. I mean, how am I supposed to sleep, Marshawn, whenever you light up my phone at 11 p.m.? I mean, do you care about my well-being? You don't. I mean, it was obviously massive news. I'm honored to have the news broke. But Jimmy Pataro and I have been in contact trying to figure out how we can make something work, how we can make something bigger work.
Starting point is 00:08:17 And literally the conversation just kind of naturally fell. And last week we got a deal done for me to join College Game Day full-time this season. Also, next season, it is an honor. It is a show that is an institution. It's a Saturday staple in all of our lives, from truck drivers to suits and all the people in between. Saturday morning has a routine, and it all revolves around College Game Day. When I got a chance to be on the show a couple times, I knew that I was, hey, I'm into TV right now. I've only watched this show since I was a kid.
Starting point is 00:08:49 I've only seen this show in every single NFL building on every Saturday morning it's on. I couldn't believe that I had the opportunity to do it. It just didn't work out at the time to continue to do it. Now it is. I am honored and lucky to do it. With that, though, because it is Saturday morning, to make that decision really be a firm yes from me, I wanted to talk to the people from the WWE. Because obviously, I hold my role as a SmackDown commentator
Starting point is 00:09:16 as high as anything else that I do. Because not only is it a dream for me since I was a little kid, but there's other little kids out there that are hopefully getting their imagination and their goals and dreams created, just like I was when I was a kid watching WWE. And somebody can go on and have bigger dreams than people that are around them could ever fathom or people, the city where they're from could ever understand. I think WWE does that for kids. So every time I got an opportunity to get on a microphone there, I wanted to honor that.
Starting point is 00:09:48 So before I could agree with Jimmy Pataro to do College Game Day, which is an institution and an honor of a lifetime, and in the sports world, one of the biggest shows of all time, I had to talk to the WWE first and see what their thoughts were. I was thinking about maybe doing both.
Starting point is 00:10:04 How do I go about doing it? I did it one time whenever SmackDown was in Buffalo and there was a plane that was stuck in the Middle East and they weren't able to get back. So Triple H actually called me, who's in charge of creative now. Triple H called me and was like, hey, can you get the Buffalo to do SmackDown
Starting point is 00:10:18 because we don't have anybody basically. And I had college game day the next morning in Memphis. So Jim Irsay, this is my joke of my life, Jim Irsay gave me his fucking jet to fly to Buffalo, then the game day in Memphis the next morning. I was on like two hours of sleep, but it was accomplishable. So the original thought for me was, I could do SmackDown and game day.
Starting point is 00:10:38 I could do it. The folks at the WWE, who I have nothing but love, respect, and appreciation for, I'm talking old regime new regime whoever you think is in charge over there i have nothing but great feelings towards so i reach out to them i chit chat with them they actually were the ones that said hey man if you're gonna do game day which is great opportunity congratulations we're actually you know i think wwe has been a part of game day a few different times. We love the show.
Starting point is 00:11:06 You cannot be traveling overnight for the entirety of the season. It's not good for your health. It's not good for your family. It's not good for anything. Whenever the time is right, we will have you definitely be back in our family. So SmackDown will be on hold for a little bit. Me commentating while I do college game day. I'm still very much in the WWE family.
Starting point is 00:11:25 And as one OG in the WWE said to me in a message that was very heartfelt, said, hey, now one of our guys is on college game day. So I'm still very much a part of the WWE family. We'll still very much be doing things. But for the good of college football and for the good of the opportunity that is in front of me right now, I'll be focusing on college game days on saturdays this show monday through fridays then sunday i'll be attempting to watch all nfl games and this will be the greatest football season of all time i'm very grateful i'm very thankful it only happens because all you motherfuckers that watch
Starting point is 00:11:59 and follow along i'm very very thankful and to all the boys, all your hard work, anything that I get to do is literally a reflection of fucking everything that you guys have accomplished. I appreciate everybody. It's a huge day. Got a haircut for TV. I was going to grow that thing out. I was going to grow that thing out because in WWE, you wear headphones, so I
Starting point is 00:12:19 can just fucking, I can put a little poof and just take it back and nobody would know that I'm growing my hair out. But with game day, that shit's going to get nasty. Got my haircut this morning from the back porch barber, and I can't wait for Austin, Texas this Saturday. Hell yeah. I can't wait to get back in front of their crowd. I can't wait to get back chatting about college football this morning.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Now, I watch college game day every Saturday, so I know the high-level, zoomed-out stories of basically everything and everybody. We cover a lot of the media. Tom Diggs, though, is in the weeds of college football. Had a full hour-long class this morning learning about who transferred where, who had great history where, what coaching lineage is where. I'm trying to become as sharp as a tool as I could possibly become. And a lot of people did call me a tool on the Internet, so that wasn't on purpose saying I'm going to become a sharpest tool, but it's still going to be a tool in a lot of people's eyes.
Starting point is 00:13:09 I'm going to try my best to be an additive to a show that has won 32 Emmys or something like that since 2003. It is an honor. It is a blast. And this show shall go on. I might be live on Friday some places. Oh, really? I believe that's in the middle of conversations as well. Yeah, there might be a little bit of that going on. I might be live on Friday some places. Oh, really? I believe that's in the middle of conversations as well.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Yeah, there might be a little bit of that going on. It's kind of all, you know, the combo is between me and Paizan Jimmy Pataro. Sure. First time I met him, by the way. I had no idea who the fuck he was. Who's Jimmy Pataro for the people that don't know? So he's the
Starting point is 00:13:43 ESPN. He's the head guy at ESPN. So, like, you know, it's been well documented that my relationship with middle management is not fantastic. Okay? It is pretty well documented that I do not. So there has been some situations in the past at ESPN because I was in games.
Starting point is 00:14:03 I was in studio show. I was doing games. So there's a lot of different departments at ESPN because I was in games I was in studio show I was doing game so there's a lot of different departments at ESPN ESPN is like 50 departments because of how big it is and you know it's been around a long time it started as guys drinking beers running highlights now it's become this conglomerate that is you know remarkable but it's a lot of different so I would if I had a situation with somebody you know in a thing where there's something was said or something was saying and i didn't like it my natural reaction is i'll fuck off okay and i wouldn't say it you know maybe in that fashion but it would certainly get my point
Starting point is 00:14:35 across like hey okay that ain't gonna happen like we that ain't that ain't how this is gonna go so i think jimmy got these messages from like four or five different things uh departments and was like who the fuck is this guy you know like who is this pat mcafee guy who seems to just say nah not going to do that nah don't want to do that that doesn't sound like something i would ever do so i'm so sorry not going to do that so we actually have become pretty good i think he's got a chance to kind of understand who I am. I've got a chance to understand who he is. I've got a chance to understand ESPN as a whole a little bit more through the conversations with him.
Starting point is 00:15:12 And I'm very grateful for him keeping in touch. Never given up on me, I think. Could have very easily given up on a relationship with me because of the multiple things that have happened. ESPN at one point banned their employees from coming on this show. That's right. That's what it got to at one point with me and ESPN. Trendy.
Starting point is 00:15:29 It banned them. So me and Jimmy, since those moments, have become pretty cordial. Like pretty good friends. I was offered US Open tickets. Oh, yeah. Wow. That's right. I don't know if that was kind of the close.
Starting point is 00:15:43 That's a big deal. That was kind of like, hey, let's close this deal. Wow. I don't know if that was kind of the... That's a big deal. I don't know if that was kind of like, hey, let's close this deal. You want to go see... What day was it on? You want to go see this Nick Kyrgos guy just lose his fucking mind every single... Sorry, this guy's an emotional rollercoaster.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Oh, yeah. I don't know how he survives. Maniac, yeah. I don't know. He's going to... Maniac. They need to check that guy's heart, by the way. I've been diving into it.
Starting point is 00:16:00 But, yes, I'm very thankful for Jimmy Pataro for getting this deal done. Very thankful to join the College Dayman Squad. And Marshawn, thanks for leaking at 11 o'clock at night last night. He didn't fucking sleep. And I'm going to be lacking sleep anyways. Yeah, exactly. But thank you to the WWE family.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Thank you to everybody. And yeah, let's have a fucking show. Let's go. Big fucking deal, man. Congratulations. Thank you, dude. That's huge. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:16:23 Match made in heaven, right? I can't wait to see you interact with the crowd. Because obviously they do a lot, and it's kind of like almost a studio show in front of the crowd. But you interacting with that crowd is going to be dope. Well, I think, Darius, like I have too much ADD. So if I see a crowd of people sitting right here, and I even get like a sense that they're getting bored, it's really hard if I have access to a whole thing not to be like,
Starting point is 00:16:47 oh, let's bring these people back to life a little bit. But that's not always good. And I think from the last time I was on game day to now getting an opportunity to go full-time, I've been with the WWE, right? I've been with the WWE through it. And the WWE crowd control, crowd interaction, everything like that is top tier, top level.
Starting point is 00:17:08 I've gotten to watch some real motherfuckers work on a microphone now. Like watching Paul Heyman work a microphone in front of an arena, like that's a game changer. That changes how you operate, when's good. How can you be an additive to the show as opposed to just being the show in there? Because I was just getting like little 30 second hits 45 second hits and i'm like well if i'm only getting 45 seconds like these motherfuckers are gonna remember these 45 seconds now it's like i feel like i have a much better understanding of like i think the wwe was like almost a master's class yeah setting me up for college game day it's all it's like a perfect fucking storm it's coming at the perfect
Starting point is 00:17:45 time and i'm really excited to see how it all evolves you know well i think what we do too right because it's like you know a big part of college game day is an institution it is you know like something that has been just so consistent ever since i've been alive but like something that you do so well that i think people assume that anyone who's on tv can do well is like spontaneity and being able to just kind of like think on your feet and do something and not be worrying about like oh should i do this like no i might look like an asshole i might look like an idiot like you don't have any i always look like because we you know and people say whatever they want but we really do come in here with other than a single sheet of paper like we're not talking
Starting point is 00:18:24 about like oh we're going to talk about this first paper like we're not talking about like oh we're going to talk about this first then we're going to talk about this then we're going to talk about this like it's kind of like hey we're going to go in there and either we're going to sink or swim and most of the time you're fucking swimming and that is something that we have sunk though a few times yeah but we're still here i mean we found you know but but that is something that like college game day can benefit from because you because whatever you want to say about it, people say if they want to say it's stale or whatever, that's not true.
Starting point is 00:18:50 It's the same format. You're doing the same thing week in, week out, and you have the same cast of characters. So when you have someone who can come in and just be a fucking lightning rod, that changes the whole dynamic of the show. It's going to be awesome. I hope so.
Starting point is 00:19:03 There's going to be people that anytime I get introduced to a new audience, and I mean we have 10 million people watching every month on YouTube. That's just on YouTube. That's just on YouTube. So who knows what Twitter is? Who knows what numbers are real? So, I mean, we can dive into that, Annalise, right now if you want to, but it's supposed to be a positive day.
Starting point is 00:19:21 All numbers are bullshit, but if all numbers are on the same bullshit scale, then if we're all wrong, we're all right scale, then if we're all wrong, we're all right. If we're all wrong, we're all right. I've heard that in numerous football meetings. We have a lot of people that watch this show for whatever reason. We don't really market this show much, though. People normally
Starting point is 00:19:38 fall to this show or they find us on Twitter or through another thing and then they start following along. Anytime I get put in front of somebody else's audience that is big, there's going to be some people that hate. I'm going to have to dive back into this. I'm going to have to dive back into the. I have a pretty kumbaya life on the Internet.
Starting point is 00:19:55 And then this Saturday, if I just so happen to give a prediction about somebody's team, I'm probably getting fucking blown out. It's going to turn ugly on Twitter. I'm going to have to mute a lot of words. I'm going to have to start quietening a lot of things because it can't change the vibes of this show. And I think that's what game day is all about, good vibes as well as good content.
Starting point is 00:20:15 And I'm lucky to be a part of it. Speaking of good content and good vibes, ladies and gentlemen, it's time for a segment that we have run now the but four weeks straight. Holy shit. We have never done something like this before. for a segment that we have run now the but four weeks straight. We have never done something like this before. Ladies and gentlemen, it's day of feeling the beat.
Starting point is 00:20:51 For sure. Pretty good. That was awesome. That was pretty good. I'm really proud of us. There's somebody listening right now for the first time who is probably an average college football fan. I said, oh, that's what I got to look forward to. That's exactly what I hated.
Starting point is 00:20:59 Son of a bitch. Joining us now is a feel-the-beat regular at this point. He's a beat writer for the Buffalo Bills, a true Buffalonian, brother. Hell yeah. You can follow him at South Sports. He's the host of the Extra Point Show, 10 to noon a.m. on WGR 550, Absolute Weapon of a Human, Paisano Salcapocci. Hey, Sally!
Starting point is 00:21:20 What's up, boys? I love Feel the Beat. I'm actually a drummer myself, getting ready for Ozzy tomorrow night at halftime. Hell yeah. I'm going to be air drumming on the sidelines. It's going to be great. Hey, are you spin the sticks and do the whole? Yeah, you lose your mind?
Starting point is 00:21:34 We should have known that, Sal, with the way you bring the energy. Yeah, you know it, right? I mean, I actually wish I would have played some more instruments when I was growing up. But I've always been a drummer. But yeah, I can spin it a little bit. Love getting into it. So yeah, Ozzy's in my wheelhouse tomorrow it's gonna be fun out so if i say so i think you're the only one ozzy being announced his halftime performance was very alarming and surprising to all of us he still got it so he still obviously still got it
Starting point is 00:21:55 yeah i don't know if he still has it but it's the nostalgia that matters oh you're right it's like a trip back it's a trip back in time with Prince of Darkness. Can't wait to watch it. Sal, maybe his drummer, huh? COVID something. No, don't want him to die. Traffic. Don't want him or her to die. Don't want anything like.
Starting point is 00:22:13 What if, yeah, get stuck in traffic because you know how LA be. And they need a drummer, Sal. Will you go in there? Oh, I'll sit in. Go! Bring me on, Ozzy. Here we go, baby. I'll do it. I'll get on stage. Here we go, baby. I'll do it.
Starting point is 00:22:25 I'll get on stage. I'll rock it out. Let's do it. You look awesome right now. Handheld microphone in a hotel, it appears, with palm trees. I am here at the hotel in L.A., guys. Got palm trees. I left Buffalo.
Starting point is 00:22:35 I'm in palm trees. Got the pool down here a little bit. Got a camera person. My brother is here with me. He actually came in from Oregon. He's here. He's going to the games tomorrow. He's holding a camera for me.
Starting point is 00:22:45 I've got the mic here because I want to have good audio content for you guys because you're totally worth it. By the way, thanks for the love last time I was on. I really appreciate it. Brandon Bean even gave me some love, and I made sure I said thank you to him. But you guys were awesome, and I really appreciate that. No, Sal, you're awesome. You hired a cameraman and got a stick mic.
Starting point is 00:23:01 You're the best. Yeah, we need to have you on every time, Sal. Let's dive right in. Yeah, Cabo is going you on every time, Sal. Let's dive right in. Yeah, Caboli's going to be here. Cabali doesn't know what he's doing. Anyway, Caboli. See what – hey. Anyway, Sal, we appreciate you.
Starting point is 00:23:14 This is why this team is Super Bowl favorites because they've got Sal Capaccio following along. Going into tomorrow, feels like everybody's healthy, right? Poirier's back. We're all good. All systems go. Going into Thursday night football, the Buffalo Bills got to feel great about this whole thing yeah look except for trenavius white though right of course he's been on the pup list he hasn't practiced he tours acl last thanksgiving night that's going to be a challenge obviously because you know the bills have to face cooper
Starting point is 00:23:37 cup alan robinson now obviously taryn johnson in the slot will be on cooper cup a lot but that's a tough passing game to go against with two rookies, Kier Elam and Christian Benford, who are going to be on the opposite side of Dane Jackson. But you're right. Isaiah McKenzie, Tim Settle, who I think will be a beast on this defensive line, and Jordan Poyer, who obviously is an all-pro safety.
Starting point is 00:23:58 The Bills are having all those three guys. They've been practicing this week. They're ready to rock and roll on Thursday night. That's great news for them. When you think about Josh Allen going into this season, he's obviously gotten better every single year. There's no way he got better, right? I mean, you've been watching him. Did he get better from last year? Because I watched yesterday a 58-yard flick of the wrist that gave Davis in 30-degree weather. Has he gotten better? Have you noticed anything different here of Josh Allen this year? You know, I don't know if the
Starting point is 00:24:22 talent could get any better, right? I mean, Josh is Josh. He's one of the most talented human beings on the planet at what he does. But here's where he can be better and where he's tried to be better, actually, guys. Yards after catch. The Bills have not been very good at yards after catch really over the last several years. But part of that's been the design of the offense, what Brian Dable brought. They attack downfield. They have this really strong-armed quarterback. They can do that.
Starting point is 00:24:41 They get the ball in certain spots where guys get down or out of bounds. But with Ken Dorsey coming in as the offensive coordinator they've wanted to improve in that area and that's a receiver stat and it's a josh allen stat and josh has said i want to give my guys more opportunity to run after catch so i think in that area he can be and he will be better because it's something he's concentrated on this offseason to give his guys an opportunity to catch the ball and get up field a lot of slants coming, you're saying. You know, a lot of inside game, a little seam route. Let's talk about the seams a little bit.
Starting point is 00:25:09 Dawson Knox just signs a four-year, $31 million deal, 53.6 total, 31 in guarantees. He's a guy. With Cole Beasley out, is he going to have a big breakout year? I know he's a guy already, but what do you expect out of Dawson this upcoming season? And does everybody love that fucking guy? He was on this show yeah he was awesome everybody everybody loves dawson knox he is truly a buffalo guy even though he's from the nashville area and you guys know the tragedy he lost his younger brother just a couple of weeks ago and he spoke at length about
Starting point is 00:25:37 that to us in the media earlier this week and how much you know the outpouring of support from buffalo the punt foundation that he's a part of for pediatric cancer research raised over two hundred thousand dollars of people donating in luke's name and in dawson's name so you know that's what we do in buffalo right we take care of our own that's what makes buffalo special but as far as on the field dawson's been a rising star he was a raw raw player at old miss let's remember he went to old miss as a quarterback transfer they had they transferred to um to tight end they had had DK Metcalf and AJ Brown. They weren't throwing the ball to the tight end guys, right? So he came into the league raw. The Bills saw something in him. He's been rising. He's going to be a very good player. But I would say this,
Starting point is 00:26:14 I think this contract is more about the next several years, not just this year. Because Isaiah McKenzie, James Cook, think of all the weapons the Bills have. You're not going to get 100 targets for Dawson Knox. What you're going to get is a guy that they feel is going to be a really really big part of this offense for years to come and he's locked up for another four years after this year and he's got juice right he's great for the culture i assume in buffalo and josh allen loves him anytime the quarterback that you just paid what hundred some million dollars guaranteed to loves a guy let's keep him around unless you're the packers ty your question for sal capaccio yeah Sal the last couple years while Josh Allen's kind of been ascending it seems like the Bills on offense at least have kind of just been missing their running back how has James Cook
Starting point is 00:26:54 looked leading up to the game and is the team and and the city kind of really expecting him to have a breakout year as well you know we're all kind of wondering the same thing believe it or not they kind of haven't used James Cook in the preseason that much. Now, my colleague on the radio side of things, Steve Tasker, who does Buffalo Radio, you guys know, should be in the Hall of Fame, by the way, for special teams. He said something interesting.
Starting point is 00:27:15 He said he thinks the Bills may have been kind of keeping James Cook on the down low a little bit so they don't show anything in the preseason. I think that could be true. We'll see. We haven't seen enough from him. When he's been in the open field in practice i will tell you he is electrifying he makes people miss um he makes it so effortless when he changes direction and gets up field i'm so interested to see how they incorporate into the offense guys because they haven't really done that in the preseason and i think there is something too they didn't
Starting point is 00:27:40 want to show that that much you think brandon bain and mcdermott are just lying to all of us sal is that the type of operation over there in Buffalo? I don't think they're lying. I think that they're just waiting to – they want to be vanilla, right, as they say. And I think that that's what you're going to see from James Cook is having more of an expanded role. In the passing game, of course, guys, Devin Singletary,
Starting point is 00:27:57 he's still the main running back. And Sean McDermott loves him. So does Brandon Bean. And he's going to be the main ball carrier. You're going to see James Cook sprinkled into the passing game, get some carries, and maybe he forces their hand as the season goes on. Yeah, that's one of those types of guys who gets a ball, he's going to be the main ball carrier. You're going to see James Cook sprinkled into the passing game, get some carries, and maybe he forces their hand as the season goes on. Yeah, that's one of those types of guys who gets a ball, he's gone, and then the fans are like, what happened with that other guy there?
Starting point is 00:28:14 Connor, your question for Sal Caposcia. Yeah, Sal, you mentioned the defense earlier. Are we going to see the same type of D-line rotation that they've had the last couple years with Vaughn Miller and now Russo, who I believe Poyer kind of gave a sort of look out for that guy, or Stephon Diggs, excuse me, look out for that guy. What do you expect from that D-line? Is that what they're going to rely on on defense this week
Starting point is 00:28:35 with the young corners, as you said? That's why I love coming on the show. You guys know your Buffalo Bills stuff. You know that this team lies on a rotation at the defensive line ever since shawn mcdermott's been the head coach they rotate guys in fact as i went back and looked the highest amount of snaps any defensive lineman defensive end or tackle has really had under shawn mcdermott is like 64 percent kyle williams jerry hughes but come on you got von miller he's used to playing 85 90 90 plus percent of snaps when he's been in denver
Starting point is 00:29:02 and with the rams you can't do that you're paying him 120 million dollars he's here yes to be the closer and to get to the quarterback you know hopefully at the end of games like they didn't get to patrick mahomes but you got to have him on the field i i think you're going to see somewhere in between for von miller which is more than what the kind of standard has been for the bills to get him up to maybe 60 65 percent but less than what he's maybe played in Denver and L.A. I mean, they want to keep this guy fresh as the season goes on. And then, of course, you have Greg Rousseau, as you said. He's going to be on the field.
Starting point is 00:29:31 The Bills really did target the defensive line this offseason. It was the most overhauled position on the team. Tim Settle, Daquan Jones, and, of course, like you said, Von Miller coming in. There's Shaq Lawson, Jordan Phillips. They're going to rotate, but I think Von's going to play a lot. How's Sam Martin look? Look, we haven't seen him much, guys, right,
Starting point is 00:29:50 because he hasn't been in the building that much. You know, here's a guy I think you could do a lot worse if you had to find a punter that quickly to get up to speed in the NFL. They didn't want to go out and get a rookie. Sure, they kept a rookie. Originally Matt Ariza, and then everything happened. But he had all that time and OTAs. They needed to get a guy to get in there who's done it, who's been with other snappers,
Starting point is 00:30:08 who's been with other kickers. It's the holding operation that really is the thing here for the Bills, I think, that they're more concerned about. And that's Reed Ferguson snapping, getting it down for Tyler Bass. As you know, Pat, that's a big deal that everybody has to be on the same page of. And I think Sam Martin will be fine punting the ball. He punted in Denver. I mean, the weather can get pretty bad there at times he'll be fine in buffalo but it's really the
Starting point is 00:30:27 holding operation i think that really has to be up to speed and where they want it he'll be good tyler bass has a monster leg so he'll be able to figure it out uh just like you know anytime we have sal on we feel like we have it all figured out you are a lightning rod my friend you are incredible and we can't thank you and your brother for holding the camera enough for joining us today yeah thank you guys always appreciate being on it's football season we're totally jacked up big bills mafia party here in la tonight it's happening ready to get it get the season underway are you emceeing that thing so i'm gonna be at the party i'm gonna be doing like a little uh twitter spaces basically i'm gonna be jumping on stage rallying the crowd a little bit, saying hello and thanking the chapter.
Starting point is 00:31:05 So I'll be a big part of it. You know me. I can't get enough of that. Sal, they need to put a microphone in your hands. I would like to tell you that we are having our first ever scheduled Twitter spaces thing tonight. So whenever you said you're going to be on Twitter spaces, we said, oh, no, strictly because we won't be able to listen.
Starting point is 00:31:21 We're bummed. But everybody that's there will enjoy the hell out of it. Have fun tonight and tomorrow. We appreciate you, ladies and gentlemen. Sal're bummed, but everybody that's there will enjoy the hell out of it. Have fun tonight and tomorrow. We appreciate you, ladies and gentlemen. Sal Capoggio. Yes! Sal's electrifying. How about him having Carmine hold the camera, too?
Starting point is 00:31:32 Carmine Capoggio, just an absolute savant film cameraman. You can't do that. Yeah, his name is Giovanni. Oh, okay. I thought it was Carmine. That means Wikipedia's lying to me because I looked it up before when I was looking into Sal. It said, brother, Carmine. Wait, wait, okay. I thought it was Carmine. That means Wikipedia is lying to me because I looked it up before when I was looking into Sal. It said brother. Carmine.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Wait, wait, wait, wait. You're about to say mutt, which is accurate. I am. But a part of that muttness is you see it right here. You see it right here. That's right. I didn't do it. 23 and me did.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Are they smart or not? You tell me. Oh, it's time to continue to feel the beat. It's time to continue to feel the beat. Joining us now is a regular of the Feel the Beat, and we didn't feel the beat as much this time because we cut into Sal's time last time, and he was holding a microphone. Staying in there, so I don't want to do the same
Starting point is 00:32:19 because this guy's probably doing the same. A man who has a cameraman holding his camera right now, he has a stick microphone, and all the information we could ever possibly need for the pittsburgh steelers writer for the athletic ladies and gentlemen mark kaboom what's going on hey hey you know you don't want to know where I'm at, do you? You're at UPMC right there? Yeah, and if you look probably over my shoulder, you'll see a bunch of University of Pittsburgh football players walking by me,
Starting point is 00:32:55 and I know how much you enjoyed those guys. Oh, it was a catch. It was a catch. Tell them it was a catch. Tell them the last play was a catch. That ref got it wrong. Might have hit the ground, but he had complete control of that. We scored. No big deal. Tell them good was a catch. Tell them the last play was a catch. That ref got it wrong. Might have hit the ground, but he had complete control of that. We scored.
Starting point is 00:33:06 No big deal. Tell them good luck, though. Happy they won the ACC last year. Clemson's got a D-line ankle. Be able to fuck with this shit. But they put on a hell of a show. I actually, there is the building that I hit one of those. I was just talking about this the other day.
Starting point is 00:33:19 I hit a rollout punt into that ceiling. It's somewhere in there, one of those rafters. Rattled the whole... Still going if that fucking roof isn't there. I don't have any problem at the UPMC. I went to a camp in high school, I think, there. They had a... What was the name of that scouting group
Starting point is 00:33:35 out of Pittsburgh? Fuck. They had a camp down there. I was like one of the only kickers. I don't know. I hit a fucking 70 yarder there. Got zero scholarship off of that. Anyways, let's move on. Your name's Kaboli? Yeah, whatever you want.
Starting point is 00:33:50 It doesn't really matter, does it? Uh-oh. I feel like you put it in your Twitter bio because of us. Is that true? No, no. You know what? That's because, not because of you guys. I did that a long time ago because my uncle always gets mad
Starting point is 00:34:03 when they pronounce my name wrong, and I really don't care. So instead of hearing his crap, I just put it on there so I don't have to answer to him anymore. What's Unc's name? Who knows? He talks a lot of gibberish, so I try not to pay attention very much. Uncle Kabaly is not happy about the caboli references yeah yeah uncle uncle gary uncle gary caboli uh gary caboli's proud of his nephew more caboli and uh we are too so it's all been settled over there mitchell trubisky starting quarterback kenny pickett number two although he
Starting point is 00:34:41 was number three clerical where cut and paste component was obviously wrong for the B. Was that you? Did you post that? And is this exactly what we expected? I think so. Right, Mark? What? The cut and paste component or the Mitch Trubisky? The Mitch Trubisky, Kenny Pickett, Mason Rudolph.
Starting point is 00:34:58 Kind of what we expected, right? Did we ever expect Kenny Pickett to be third? So when that cut and paste component happens, that was more of a surprise to everybody, right? Or no, was I wrong? Oh, yeah. It was a lot to do with the cut and paste component, including the head PR guy being about 30,000 feet in the air at the time. So he wasn't able to make the correction until too late.
Starting point is 00:35:20 So that's what happened there. So that's why it took 19 and a half hours to make it correct. But, yeah, I mean, there was always going to be Mitch Trubisky. And you've even looked back to October of last year, guys, where Tomlin said he wanted – he didn't want to go with a rookie quarterback. He wanted to be a veteran quarterback. And he always was talking about he wanted to be a more mobile guy. He was giving us hints all the way back into October,
Starting point is 00:35:43 the new quarterback that he wanted. But then when we got here with Pickett, they were playing the game probably just to, you know, give Pickett something to shoot for, a little carrot or so. But it was never going to be anybody but Trubisky to start the season. I don't know where it's going to go from here. I would assume Pickett will eventually get the chance, but it was going to always be Trubisky. I mean, nobody else really even had a shot. Fascinating question was posed on First Take today. Who gets benched first, Trubisky or Trey Lance? What do you think?
Starting point is 00:36:12 Now, you don't have to get into Trey Lance. I don't know if you know that situation. Yeah, I don't think any of them. First of all, I mean, that's not Mike Tomlin's style, man. He's not going to have that leash about this big, let me tell you that. He's going to let Trubisky play as long as he can. There's going to be multiple games of him struggling. There's going to have to be multiple practices where he struggles.
Starting point is 00:36:32 There's going to have to be an elevation of Pickett's play for him to do that. If he had everything worked out how he wanted to work it out, he would have Trubisky play the entire season. But like we said, that's probably not really likely to happen. So I don't see a couple interceptions, a couple bad games from Trubisky on the bench. It's just not the way Mike Tomlin goes about things. So I could see late in the year maybe or if Trubisky gets hurt. That's probably the only chances Pickett goes in.
Starting point is 00:37:02 I don't think there's going to be a case where there's going to be poor play on Trubisky that gets him yanked. Uncle Gary and the Yenzers are going to get lobbed, though. Hey, they're going to get lobbed. They don't like me when I talk bad about Pickett. And I'm not even talking bad. I mean, he's the future here, but he's not the present. Well, I see you kind of dunked on him.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Yeah, geez. You kind of did. I mean, maybe take it easy on Kenny Pickett. They're chanting his name. Fourth quarter preseason game, they're chanting his goddamn name. That's kind of dead. I mean, maybe take it easy on Kenny Pickett. They're chanting his name. Fourth quarter preseason game, they're chanting his goddamn name. That's going to happen in Pittsburgh. Do you think Tomlin cares about any of that or no? No, Tomlin don't care.
Starting point is 00:37:34 He's not going to care about that whatsoever. I mean, now you might have to ask Mitch Trubisky if it's going to affect him at all. I mean, it can't be nice if, you know, the first home game against the Patriots, I believe week two and the first incompletion in the past, he's going to start booing him. I mean, they're probably going to introduce the offense.
Starting point is 00:37:49 He's going to get booed. Kavisky's probably going to go out for the coin toss to get booed. The first incompletion, he's probably going to get booed. It's going to be tough for him. It's going to be a little bit different. It's going to be like he's back in Chicago, right? Yeah, well, at the end of the 10-day for sure, he's getting booed until proven otherwise okay that which is
Starting point is 00:38:07 not normal i don't think like pittsburgh would rally behind any quarterback that's going to be their guy but i think pittsburgh and i might be yeah well we won't rally around mason we can't do it we won't do it i think at some point you did though because i do remember a compliment at one point then he got well he started got a long time i think but normally i think pittsburgh would be behind a guy but they would be behind a guy, but they're already behind a guy. His 20th pick in the draft. He went to the University of Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 00:38:28 It's like, here's our guy. So Mitch is almost going to have to prove himself. Mitch is used to that, though. That's right. Mitch knows it's football. It's NFL football. Hey, baby Mitch. Darius, your question for Uncle Gary's nephew, Mark Caboy.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Hey, what's up, Mark? Based on what you saw in this preseason, I know there was a lot of quick passing game in this offense last year, but a lot of explosive weapons on the outside. Claypool Johnson, Pickens. You think they air it out a little more this season based on what you've seen in the practices? I think they want to take their chances.
Starting point is 00:38:57 I mean, like any team, they're going to need to be able to have that threat of going down the field to open up any space for Najee Harris, especially with that offensive line not playing extremely well. So, I mean, last year there was a little bit of an issue because Roethlisberger wasn't very accurate down the field. He was sometimes didn't want to go down the field as much. Trubisky does have the deep ball, and they do got the talent out there. I mean, if you're crazy not to use a guy like Pickens and just, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:25 run as fast as you can, let's throw the ball as far as we can, at least once a game, it's going to be as simple as that. But yeah, I think they're going to try to stretch it just to help out the run game. If not, the play action doesn't work. And, you know, a lot of three and outs and a lot of, you know, seven point games where you're losing, putting up 180 yards of total offense. So they have to stretch it some i just learned that accurate is a tough word for yinzers right there and then you start thinking yourself it's accreture now yeah oh man how was the reception to accreture through the preseason at the home games everybody loves saying hey it's great to be down your action
Starting point is 00:39:59 is that happening it's mostly like we have no idea what this is. Let me Google it, and I'll look on Wikipedia, and I still don't know what it is. So we're just going to call it the stadium. I'm bad at the stadium, right? Yeah. If that's an accurate portrayal of what's going on, I fucking love Pittsburgh. Tell me your question.
Starting point is 00:40:22 Mark, who do you think is public enemy number one this season? Is it going to be Mitch? Is it going to be Matt Canada? Or is it going to be the O-line? Who's going to be number one? I don't think the O-line can come back from what they did in the preseason. I mean, there might be people outside here lining up, ready to ship them out of the building.
Starting point is 00:40:42 I don't think there's no way that that's going to be enemy number one. It's funny because Canada was the enemy number one for the previous two years. So, yeah, when you have that offensive line do what they did in the preseason and allow Jacksonville just to beat up their quarterbacks, even if it is Mitch Trubisky and even if it was the preseason. One thing that the Yinsers love to do is pretend like they know what offensive line play is all about.
Starting point is 00:41:07 It makes them a little bit smarter. Yeah, that left guard can't block it. You know what I'm saying? It's always there. They're going to go off after them. They've got to use their hands a little more. Tomlin's got to quit playing. Got to run the ball more. You know how it is.
Starting point is 00:41:22 You've just got to run the ball more in Pittsburgh, regardless if nobody runs the ball anymore. You know, it is. You just got to run the ball more in Pittsburgh, regardless of nobody runs the ball anymore. You know, that's because the bus. Wheels. It's 100% why. The wheels on the bus went round and round, round and round, round and round, all the way to a Super Bowl in his hometown. So that is like the expectation.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Like, hey, we're a hard-nosed city. It's a tough time. And if you're going to throw the ball over to place Todd Haley, Like, hey, we're a hard-nosed city. It's a tough time. And if you're going to throw the ball over to place Todd Haley, Bruce Arians, we're going to move on. But now Matt Cannon has got some magic to make, and I can't wait to hear what you guys are saying about him. Mark, I can't thank you enough for joining us, dude. You're the absolute best.
Starting point is 00:41:57 There's a couple more questions from the boys. Is that all right? Oh, any time, any time. Yeah, sure. Go ahead and shoot. What do you got today, Mark? What are you just fucking hanging out in a dark workout facility there? You know what?
Starting point is 00:42:07 You know what? I am really, really sacrificing for you because it's media lunchtime right now. Oh, no. Instead of the media lunch, I am doing this. So I'm hoping I can go over and get one of those bison burgers or whatever it is. Oh, hell yeah. Media lunch has been canceled. You know what?
Starting point is 00:42:24 Maybe you can pull some strings for me and get some Rudy Sub sent my way. Okay. Because I'm going to miss lunch for doing your show. Well, I apologize for that. How is the media lunch at the Steelers facility? Normally pretty good? Oh, it's spectacular. Well, during the COVID years, they gave us box lunch.
Starting point is 00:42:42 It's just not acceptable. No. Is this the Steelers or not? Come on. You had to be like, fire, Fitz. I mean, we'll have, you know, we've had a little battle here in Pittsburgh media room. We call them gyros here. So they had gyros the other day, not the E-ros or whatever the rest of the world calls them.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Who called it a gyro? Yeah, not in Pittsburgh. The gyro is good. Yeah, the gyros are good, especially 3.34 a.m. down there south side. Wake up with some of that cucumber. Shout out Sammy's. Mike and Tony's, right? No, Sammy's.
Starting point is 00:43:11 Mike and Tony's is the other side, I think, if I'm not mistaken. Mike and Tony's is right next to Mario's. I go down to Sammy's around 20th Street, 21st Street. Yeah. Okay. It all kind of blends in down there, to be honest with you. Whenever you're buying gyros on south side, normally there could be a couple of different wide-side shots coming.
Starting point is 00:43:28 You've got to watch yourself. What's that? Especially now. The problem is now half your audience, three-quarters of your audience, they have no idea what you're talking about. They call them gyros or something like that. It's totally foreign to me. What is a gyro? It's a gyro, right?
Starting point is 00:43:44 I would say the gyro is a foreign. That's why it's. Well, you know what I'm saying. Nobody knows what you're talking about. Connor, your question for Mark Caboli. Yeah, Mark. Najee had the Liz Frank in the preseason here in a little before. Is there any worry for that to carry on into the season at all,
Starting point is 00:44:01 especially if the O-line absolutely stinks it up this year? No, I don't think so. I think he looks pretty healthy. I think they were just being very, very cautious with that injury. He just sprained it. And I love the fact that he came out and just said, I mean, they're not supposed to talk about injuries. Mike Tomlin makes that very, very crystal clear to the players.
Starting point is 00:44:22 And Najee is like, forget this. very crystal clear to the players and nausea is like forget this um don't pretend like i got a sore toe and i'm just sitting out for six weeks i got liz frank's brain but uh he set the world straight that uh he's not that much uh he's not going to sit out for a little foot sprain but he's back on the field here today and i think he'll be as close to 100 as possible and as you know following the sealers they are going to need it, and he's probably going to touch the ball about 400 times this year, and he's probably going to get hit hard a bunch of times too with, like you said, that offensive line.
Starting point is 00:44:54 I've got to throw one little shot out if you guys don't mind. Pat Fryermuth, the tight end, is a huge fan of your guys. Fryermuth! He actually comes up to me in the locker room and tells me how much he loves you guys. So I just thought I'd throw him a shout out. Well, tell Friar Muth
Starting point is 00:45:08 we're big fans of his as well. Diggs actually has a jersey, I believe. Always with him. He wanted, I forget which tight end we were just going through college football class
Starting point is 00:45:18 this morning. He said this tight end with Friar Muth were Pittsburgh. Rock bars. Rock bars with Friar Muth and Pittsburgh. This is the custom jersey he made and Muth. Rock bars. Rock bars with Fryer and Muth and Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 00:45:27 This is the custom jersey he made, Muth. Muth! So we're big fans of his as well. Does a lot of people tell you, do a lot of people tell you that you're great on this show? Because you are. You are great on this show. I don't know how you are. Go ahead. The funny thing is, your fans, you know, the national guys like me,
Starting point is 00:45:45 the local fans just hate me still. But we're dynamic. Pittsburgh people hate me. Your fans love me. It's like we get him off there. We're tired of seeing him. He doesn't know what he's talking about. And your guys, oh, he's pretty funny.
Starting point is 00:45:58 He's pretty good. So it's an interesting dynamic right there. Well, hey, stop burning bridges around Pittsburgh. Jesus, Ty, your question for mark caboli well first and foremost that's bullshit mark you're great on this show i love when you come on also uh last time you're on here you mentioned that chase claypool basically got was getting hurt like every other practice uh how's he doing how's he doing do the steelers expect to have their full complement of uh receivers going into week one?
Starting point is 00:46:25 Yeah. Oh, well, I don't know about Deontay Johnson yet. We're not allowed to report whether he practiced or not until they send out the injury report here in an hour or two. But I can tell you he didn't practice on Monday, and he still has that shoulder injury. So we're not quite sure about that. But, yeah, Claypool looks like he's back close to 100%. And he's a guy that can make a difference
Starting point is 00:46:45 if he's healthy. The whole question is if he can stay healthy. He's been, like you said, banged up a little bit from here to there. You have Pickens, Johnson, Claypool, and even guys like Gunnar Olszewski who really impress people
Starting point is 00:47:03 in preseason. They're not lack of talent. They're just lack of experience and a question mark of quarterback in an offensive line that needs a lot of help. I think they've got the athletic ability and the skill players. It's just a matter of the other stuff. Well, they've got great coaching and they've got great beat writers. We can't thank you enough for joining us. Good luck with that media lunch.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Hopefully there's still some cold food available. Yeah. I'll, I'll sweet talk my way into something. Sandwich or something. What's your go-to line? Hey, you know me,
Starting point is 00:47:33 Mark. Boy, is that what you guys are? Put it this way. If, if I, if I can get a lunch, I'll tweet it out to you guys.
Starting point is 00:47:42 A lunch update from Mark. If you could do that every day, we might be able to make that a paid segment. Yeah, that would what we're talking about. A lunch update from Mark. If you could do that every day, we might be able to make that a paid segment. Yeah. That would be amazing. We'd appreciate you. Just like we appreciate your time.
Starting point is 00:47:51 You're the best, ladies and gentlemen, Mark Boyd. Yeah, Mark! The Buffalo Bills travel to Southern California to take on
Starting point is 00:48:00 the Super Bowl champion, Los Angeles Rams. The Talks Table's here at Ty Schmidt, at Boston Corner. One half of the hammer, done! Angeles Rams. The talk table is here at Ty Schmidt at Boston Corner. One half of the hammer. Dime. Cowboys Tone Diggs is here. And in studio, like he will be all season,
Starting point is 00:48:11 ladies and gentlemen, the host of the Man to Man podcast, reoccurring guest on Up and Atoms, Darius J. Butler. Hey, hair looks incredible, dude. Appreciate you. No problem. It looks really nice. No, it has. Fresh haircut here?
Starting point is 00:48:23 Wow. Yesterday? Yeah, fresh. Hey, because you had a hat on, right? Yeah, I did. you. No problem. It looks really nice. No, it actually does. Fresh haircut here? Wow. Yesterday. Yeah, fresh. Whoa. Hey, because you had a hat on, right? Didn't you? Yeah, I did.
Starting point is 00:48:30 I switched it up back and forth. I almost threw the cowboy hat on. Maybe later. Something to think about. Oh, see. Have you ever worn a cowboy hat out in public? Hmm. Come on.
Starting point is 00:48:39 I'm going to go no. How about cowboy boots? No. Oh, you're missing. Cowboy hat, I can't do either. Don't you got to earn the boots? Well, that's a belt buckle. How's the traction in those boots? What's that?
Starting point is 00:48:50 How's the traction in those boots? You can really dance, yeah. I mean, you're not going to really be pushing any cars or anything, you know. Sure. But you can get out there and fucking definitely kill the land with it. And do what you got to do and dance if you have to. Put them fuckers in spurs, usually. Those came in Crocs.
Starting point is 00:49:02 Yeah, you're damn right. Yeah. I got some ostriches this past weekend. Boot barn down there. Hell yeah. Yeah, I walked into aman Crocs. Yeah, you're damn right. Yeah. I got some ostriches this past weekend at Boot Barn down here. Hell yeah. Yeah, I walked into Boot Barn with the wife, you know, said, I'll get ready for Texas maybe.
Starting point is 00:49:10 And saw these nice ostriches skating in. A couple of gold bullies were in the back there. They were looking at things first. I didn't know what was the proper way to look at stuff.
Starting point is 00:49:17 I said, hey, you got these on my side? They're like, everything that we have is out. Sorry. I'm sorry about it.
Starting point is 00:49:24 All right, you all know what to do down there. What's going on? Speaking of sorry and traction, I did not see the ball spin yesterday. Yeah, it was unbelievable. Spun the ball yesterday. Stopped that fucker with my foot. You guys, no reaction. I'm all about eye contact.
Starting point is 00:49:39 Well, that's the only thing. We could see it on there, but we couldn't see it on there. Yeah, I understand. I didn't think it was going to take place either, and somebody was asking a great question. So that person that was probably doing something awesome is a college football national champion. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:52 A Super Bowl champion. What? A Ryder Cup champion. What? A COVID survivor. What? A.J. Hall. Yeah!
Starting point is 00:50:01 A.J., what's up, pal? What's up? I didn't see you. Was I talking and you stopped the ball with your foot while I was spinning? I think you were either trying to light your house on fire for your cigar or taking a big sip out of a massive bottle. All right? That's one of your go-tos there while somebody else was asking a question.
Starting point is 00:50:16 It's great to see you, AJ. How's life? Good, man. I can't wait. I'm pumped for the game day situation. I'm glad it's public. You didn't get to break it. Cool.
Starting point is 00:50:24 I guess that's how it works. But you know what? I can't wait to see you and Matt the game day situation. I'm glad it's public. You didn't get to break it. Cool. I guess that's how it works. But you know what? I can't wait to see you and Matt McConaughey just piling around Texas. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he smokes dope, right? Not in Texas. It's not legal in Texas. But we'll set up a time to go to a state that is legal and do it together.
Starting point is 00:50:36 I can't wait for it. All right, all right, all right interaction. It's going to be fantastic. I'm excited to get back on the road with College Game Day. I'm bummed I'm going to be missing SmackDowns throughout the season. But I'm thankful for how WWE said, yeah, like, you got it. You know? I wouldn't have done it, by the way, if WWE was like, nah, we need you.
Starting point is 00:50:55 I think they never said they don't need me. But they were like, hey, this is a massive opportunity that you should go do for sure. So it's been a fun thing. It's been a fun few days. It's all kind of come together pretty quickly. But I want to let you know, AJ, this show ain't ever changing. This show is never going to change. It's going to be great.
Starting point is 00:51:11 And we've got NFL football tomorrow. We talked to Sal Capaccio. We talked about Tredavious White potentially being an issue. But other than that, all systems go in tomorrow night, AJ. And I can't wait for our life now to become literally 24-7 for the next five months. Football, football, football. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:27 This is the time of year that we look forward to. This is the time of year we get excited about. And obviously the Bills are favored by two and a half on the road. There's some bets we're putting together for a no sweat promotion that Fandle has going on where you can place a bet. And if you lose, you just get that back in free bets. So let's go fucking big tomorrow. AJ, the season's right around the corner, pal. What's your energy like?
Starting point is 00:51:50 What are your vibes like? I'm pumped. It's finally here. It almost doesn't feel real, but aren't the Rams pissed that their Super Bowl champs playing at home and their dogs? Well, AJ, you tell me. Are they ferocious? Remember I asked you one time what you would describe your style of play as,
Starting point is 00:52:05 and you said, are you serious? What do you want me to say? I'm ferocious. Is that a real question? That sounds like a question during a pre-production meeting that I don't want to be a part of or whatever. That's basically what you just said right there. I assume the Rams know that they are underdogs at the house,
Starting point is 00:52:17 but is that going to fire them up more? No, they don't care, but they're probably thinking, I'm sure in the back of my mind, wait, we just won the Super Bowl. We lost Vaughn Miller, yes. No, they don't care, but they're probably thinking, like, I'm sure in the back of my mind, how do we – wait, we just won the Super Bowl. We lost Von Miller, yes. OBJ is not on our team right now, but how are we dogs in the first game of the season? Great question. We have similar thoughts.
Starting point is 00:52:34 OBJ actually went on to tweet. He says he thinks these teams that are starting the season are going to be ending the season together as well. Darius Butler, that is very real. That's a very real possibility that I think everybody has on their mind. Odell Beckham Jr. also potentially linked to both of these teams because Von Miller said, Goal locker right here for you. And the Rams said,
Starting point is 00:52:49 Hey, you crashed McVay's wedding, so you have to come back. Odell Beckham Jr. getting in the commentary, anything he says people are going to talk about. What he said is valid, though. These might be the two teams that end up in the Super Bowl, and I think the NFL would be pumped about it. Start the season, end the season the same exact way. Got to defend the champs.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Obviously, expectations are high with Stafford and Cole. And then, obviously, the Bills. I feel like everybody's on that wagon. Are they still the betting favorites? Yes. Yeah, so everybody's on that wagon. It's getting lower, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Expectations are high. Great, great, great game to start the season off with. I'm shocked that the Rams are still dogs as well. I'm definitely taking them to win this one. Oh, really? We just had a, here we go. If you're going to make a pick for a game, like we can at least fucking stress it out. Come on.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Darius Butler has made an official pick. What about the over too? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, Slow down, Hawk. Slow down. What the fuck? It's football season. I'm not slowing down.
Starting point is 00:53:41 Yeah, you're right. It's go time. Hey, I like that eagerness. Okay. I like that excitement out of you. I like the, hey, we need more, we need more. But we need to acknowledge Darius Butler has picked the Rams plus two and a half. Yes.
Starting point is 00:53:53 All right. Wow. Let's go, D-Bot. Might be riding with you, D-Bot. We'll see. Whoa. Good tease. Good tease.
Starting point is 00:54:01 Okay, AJ. I'm learning. I'm learning. Show business. I'm still thinking. Okay. AJ, we'll make our official selections tomorrow. We will also make our Super Bowl selections
Starting point is 00:54:09 tomorrow. We will make our divisional winners today. I don't care about it. Who cares about the division? Everybody. It's the first step to the Super Bowl. We're going to do division winners today in the third hour. We're going to do MVP winner today in the third hour.
Starting point is 00:54:24 We'll do comeback player of the year today in the third hour. We're going to do MVP winner today in the third hour. We'll do comeback player of the year today in the third hour. We'll do offensive player of the year and defense player of the year in the third hour. Tomorrow, we will be picking winner of the game, winner of the Super Bowl, and we'll be talking to some fucking legends tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:54:40 I do believe you kick off the entire NFL season. On Fridays, you guys run the slate again? Absolutely. That's my favorite day. I'm starting to enjoy that. I do believe you kick off the entire NFL season. On Fridays, you guys run the slate again? Absolutely. Yeah! Absolutely. That's my favorite day. God damn, it's exciting. I'm starting to enjoy that.
Starting point is 00:54:51 At first, I didn't enjoy it. Now I do enjoy making those picks. We're a segment show. I know. C-block, D-block. We didn't feel the beat in the first hour. Did you see Kaboli and miss lunch to chat with us about life? I saw a little bit of Kaboli.
Starting point is 00:55:03 Did he really miss lunch? Yeah. He said, I'm sacrificing it, eh? I'm missing media lunch to do this conversation with you guys. And it wasn't no slouch of a lunch. Good luck. Bison burgers. They had bison meat.
Starting point is 00:55:15 For the media? Update. Yeah. Update wasn't bison burgers. What was it? Fucking Italian beef. Yeah, he is. He's living the dream. Kaboey.
Starting point is 00:55:24 Kaboey with a Kaboey. I fucking love that guy. Yeah, he's living the dream. Kabali. Kabali with a Kaboli. I fucking love that guy. He's the best. Just thinking about him. He's all by himself in that indoor facility with a phone. Saying, hey, guys. Doing his whole thing. The pit players walking by him just got to be like, what the fuck is Kabali doing?
Starting point is 00:55:41 No, they know Kabali. He's crushing. Absolutely crushing. As did Sal Capaccio. He had a microphone and he had a cameraman from his balcony in his, I think Giovanni, in the hotel that the Bills are staying at right now. He was ready for feel the beat. He brought it.
Starting point is 00:55:56 He said, Dawson Knox gets a brand new deal. He's going to go. But this isn't just about this upcoming year for Dawson Knox. They think he's nowhere near his ceiling, nowhere near where he's headed to. He's best friends with Josh Allen. He just signed a four-year, $31 million guarantee deal, 53.6 in totals with other incentives and stuff.
Starting point is 00:56:16 Knox has said, I love people in Buffalo. Hopefully I'll be here a long time. Everybody in Buffalo loves this man, AJ. Your thought on Dawson Knox getting this massive deal and what this means for other tight ends well how long has Dawson Knox been playing tight end like how long has he been in this position I don't know it's not that long is it formerly a quarterback yeah then he goes to yes yeah his ceiling is very very high the dude's already stud but his like the potential he has as well is crazy so yeah I think this is a was a no-brainer for the bill especially on the rocket ship that is buffalo bills with josh allen is only getting
Starting point is 00:56:48 better and better i would assume as a new england patriot fan not exactly thrilled to toss an ox sign on daughter line to go ahead and ruin your lives for a couple more years pal no no i'm okay with that i mean the real worry is how good the afc is as a whole i mean i think even if you're a buffalo bills fan you have to be worried like man of course when our team gets as good as it's been for the past 25 years, seven other teams get as good as they've ever been in the past 25 years. So, I mean, yeah, you are worried about the Bills, but one game at a time. You know that. I'm looking to Miami on Monday.
Starting point is 00:57:15 I'm not looking past that. I'm not looking to anything before that, although I am looking to tomorrow. I'm very excited to play some bets on that game. So you're certainly looking before that, but not after that. All eyes are on Monday. You're not worried about what the Buffalo Bills are doing just yet. But that is a valid point. It feels like the entire, obviously, AFC,
Starting point is 00:57:30 but the NFL has just gotten to a heightened level. It feels like every team's good. More money's being spent. More teams are going all in. And speaking of going all in, Fandle TV did just that. That's right. They signed an Emmy Award-winning host. Oh, yes, they did.
Starting point is 00:57:47 Who was off air for like a hundred some days Or whatever Had a couple commercials, crushed them Now she has her own show, Up and Adams That you can watch every single day 11 Eastern on FanDuel TV Both on, I think, well I don't want to It's everywhere Just find where FanDuel TV is, you'll find the show
Starting point is 00:58:01 It's been fantastic the first two days Can't wait to see it continue to grow Ladies and gentlemen, Kay Adams. Thank you. And congratulations on College Game Day. You are amazing. I don't know how you balance your time. Congrats.
Starting point is 00:58:15 Well, I fucking stink at it, actually. It's going to catch up to me, but I'm very thankful for that. Thank you for joining us. Welcome back to Daytime TV. You know, I'd like to not have to superglue eyelashes onto these eyeballs, but I've missed you guys and I've missed, you know, setting the tone in the morning. And I'm so excited that we're kind of related now, the FanDuel family. Absolutely. Love having you in the FanDuel family. I think FanDuel TV has had a smashing success. Your show has been great. Darius was
Starting point is 00:58:44 on today. We've been watching. Have you been enjoying this? How much of the creative process have you been a part of? And how will it change once games start, you think? A million percent. And, you know, traditional media, that's not really the case, right? So the show is going to evolve what it was yesterday and today. Maybe we'll go a little looser.
Starting point is 00:59:02 We'll bring in guests from, you know, all parts of the FanDuel family, of course, in the sports entertainment space. So I would just say it's going to be a journey, right? Ups and downs. We're going to try things. And it just feels so good to have that support and that freedom. So we're really, really excited. And now we have a football game tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:59:19 So I came back from Africa just in time. Well, welcome back from Africa. You were in Africa for 100 days? What were you doing in Africa? I was there for about three weeks. That's Chappelle, right? I went to Kenya. I went to Tanzania. I went to Rwanda
Starting point is 00:59:35 and I ran into an NFL owner while I was gorilla trekking, Pat. Isn't that insane? Yes, this is all insane. I had no idea this is where the conversation was going to go. So you said you're going to move on from Good Morning Football. Chappelle did this. Yes.
Starting point is 00:59:51 He said, I'm going to get out of here. Was this like – Dan Snyder? Was he hiding? Was everyone hiding from a congressional oversight committee in Rwanda? There was not. I didn't realize this was going to go there either, but it was amazing. I went and I was going on a there either, but it was amazing.
Starting point is 01:00:09 I went and I was going on a gorilla trek and they put you in these like pods of eight people. So I was with one other person. They put you in. I'm sitting there, of course, like hat, no makeup, like just, you know, we woke up and they put you in like gators on your feet and you're all like, you know, performance gear to go out into the jungle. And I hear, K Adams? And I turn and, well, it's an NFC West... Should I have you guess? Cliff Kingsbury? No, no. Sean McVay?
Starting point is 01:00:35 You say owner? No, it was Michael Bidwell. It was Cliff's boss. I was an owner! I completely forgot it was a fucking owner! Bidwell was there on his own plane? Isn't that crazy? Yes, very crazy. I'm going to assume it's very expensive to do. There's 800 people there, and then you get put into these groups, and I'm like, is that my Super Bowl pick?
Starting point is 01:00:54 Maybe, because it was so weird. Oh, the universe kind of put you guys together in Rwanda. Was it a successful trip? Did you meet any gorillas? Did you shake their hand? Did you go shake their hand? Because I think that's what you got to do. Is that right?
Starting point is 01:01:07 I did not do any of that. They'll rip it right off. No, no. If you don't shake their hand, they'll rip it off. Listen, I watched this whole documentary on this. I'm not doing it. You're sanctuary. You go into their land.
Starting point is 01:01:17 You got to go like. On to them. Yeah, Paris. Yeah, you got to go like do one of those. Pull your whole arm off and eat it then. Pat, Pat, no. That's not the move. You have to go and you have to make a noise. You got to go do one of those. Pull your whole arm off and eat it then. Pat, Pat, no. That's not the move.
Starting point is 01:01:28 You have to go and you have to make a noise. You got to go shake their hearts. I want to shake their hearts. You got to go shake their hearts. What noise do you have to make? No, you make a noise. What's the noise? Pat, you walk up. One day when you have vacation, which you never have,
Starting point is 01:01:38 you will walk up to these gorillas in Rwanda and you have to go, literally. No way. No fucking way. Because that makes them know that you're friendly. I want to shake their hand. A handshake isn't friendly, but I'm fucking outfitting
Starting point is 01:01:51 this gorilla. No way. I don't think so. Did you do this? I'm not jacking off a silverback gorilla. What are you talking about? Did it work? Did it work? If they start moving towards you, you have to go Are you making yourself as large as possible Did it work? Did it work? Yeah, you would have got, if they start moving towards you, you have to go.
Starting point is 01:02:08 Are you making yourself as large as possible too? Like a fucking barrel? Oh no. I can't do that. No. No, but like, no, but I also, I saw one having sex too. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:02:20 Why? It was because you were fucking doing the goddamn job. It's a mating call you're doing. Wow. Look at all these Americans. Hey, welcome, Americans. Yeah, go walk up and do some mating calls and then see the show. See the show.
Starting point is 01:02:32 Watch what they do. That's awesome. I can't wait to go. I can't wait to go on this erotic gorilla trek. Yeah, that sounds awesome. For a while, it does. It's a good little vacation. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:41 Did Bidwell go, uh-huh, uh-huh, to a gorilla? I need to hear that. You will have to ask him when he comes on your show himself i've said too much all right well we're happy you got back from vacation did you enjoy the hundred some days off or no it sounds like you had a great time is it a lot of that a lot of similar to that a lot of questions about what was next or did you have it all figured out no i totally unplugged i'm pretty good good at compartmentalizing. We got the Emmy and I didn't even know. I was in Europe. I had no idea.
Starting point is 01:03:09 I went to Greece. I went all over. Hey, congrats! Let's go! You won an Emmy! I haven't celebrated it at all. I haven't even thought about it. It's very exciting. Sure. I'm just happy to be back. I'm good at going off the radar.
Starting point is 01:03:25 But I'm ready at going off the radar, but I'm ready to sort of kick off the season and I'm really so grateful. FanDuel is such a nice fit and you know this better than anybody and your dealings with them. Totally open to want to go do this, want to do that, so the door is open for whatever I want to do. If I want to start a guerrilla
Starting point is 01:03:46 erotic tour in Rwanda I'm sure Fandu will be supportive. Yeah I'm going to have to figure out how to bet on how many people we that's going to have to get regulated then but I'm sure I'm sure we can find out what an amazing thing I can't believe that is the I'm telling you that documentary I
Starting point is 01:04:02 seen you walk in and you fucking shake their hands. You have their hands you have to Planet of the Apes that's how Caesar gets the exactly you gotta put your hand you gotta put your head down
Starting point is 01:04:09 and let them yeah cause that knot smacking right in your mouth I'm gonna kill you eat your face what's the non-friendly sound though I need to know that what's the
Starting point is 01:04:17 no the non-friendly thing is the non-friendly thing is in the silverback they have like a lot of air in their chest these things are huge and you see them sort of like of air in their chest. These things are huge. And you see them sort of like the air fills their chest. And then they start doing this.
Starting point is 01:04:29 And then like shit, you're in trouble. You run to your pod. Was there any Code Red moments out there in Rwanda? No, just the sexy moments. That was it. Do you sleep at a hotel out there? Or was it like out safari type thing? Yeah, I was on safari for a couple of
Starting point is 01:04:45 weeks and then uh to do the gorilla trekking was like three hours out of kigali the capital and it was in a beautiful hotel just not too far away happy you didn't get coveted daughter yeah thank god jesus thank you very happy for that congrats on winning emmy sounds like you and let's get back to some nfl conversation now it seems like the league's better than it's ever been honestly this morning i heard you chit-chatting about numerous teams who do you like this year who do you like going into the season i know you have friends literally all over the league so we're putting in an interesting spot but what are some teams you're really intrigued by okay i love the bangles as you know i loved them magical ride last year they'll be competitive i do enjoy that everyone's sort of counting them out because I think they'll surprise. And I like the undersell and over-deliver of that team.
Starting point is 01:05:29 But the Ravens, if they're healthy, how are you going to beat them? They're so good. If we get, you know, Marlon Humphrey at 100%, Marcus Peters, let's go with that secondary and Hamilton, all that, that would be amazing. And I hope, I hope for Lamar, he just pulls a flacko, pull a flacko, get paid, bounce back, set the world on fire, and do your thing. So I think the Ravens are going to be super formidable. Your Colts? Come on. I'm headed to Indy in a couple weeks to do something with the Colts,
Starting point is 01:05:55 and I'm so excited for them too. I think they can make waves. And the Chargers. Like Justin Herbert, win the MVP. Why wouldn't he? The numbers will be there. Full complement of receivers back. Both sides of the ball, great, tough division, but I think they're the best and most complete,
Starting point is 01:06:09 which is something I always look at. A lot of good teams. Go ahead, AJ. What about tomorrow, Kay? How excited are you about the NFL season kicking off? Obviously, Bills, Rams, Josh Allen, another guy who a lot of people think may win the MVP. Like, what do you think that game is going to be like?
Starting point is 01:06:23 AJ, good to see you. AJ! Congrats on not getting killed over there. win the MVP? Like, what do you think that game is going to, going to be like? AJ, good to see you. Um, I am super excited. Congrats on not getting killed over there. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Um,
Starting point is 01:06:32 I'm really excited. I might get killed in the parking lot. So I'll go there and like, I'm, you know, we'll, we'll see what those Buffalo bills fans look like. They travel super well. I get to go to the game.
Starting point is 01:06:39 Uh, I moved to LA, which is insane and something I never thought that I would do. So I'm excited to celebrate all of that. I would say, is Cooper Cuff going to have like 300 yards in this game? Notre Dame is white. What a bummer. And I think if you keep saying things like, we're keeping our fingers crossed,
Starting point is 01:06:55 we hope to have him early in the season. If they don't have white, and I know they've got the safeties and all of that, I'm really worried about this team down the stretch because everybody's pumping up. I hate when teams get overhyped. I don't care who it is, the team I like or don't like. It's never good to have everybody unanimously saying you're going to go to and win the Super Bowl. Hey, how about Allen Robinson, too, over there? I mean, they got no OBJ is just kind of chilling and tweeting right now. If they bring him back midseason as well, Sean McVay just is going to have a plethora of weapons for fucking ever, Kay, Forever, it feels like. It's so true. And, you know, there's, of course, that thing about
Starting point is 01:07:29 repeating for a Super Bowl. I talked to Sean Payton, my first guest on Up and Atoms on FanDuel TV. And he, you know, because he went and then they had a good, successful winning season the next year. The Saints did, like so many teams in the patriots 2004 2003 like they went back to back uh but beast quake took him out and you just it's really hard to get back there and do it and his main thing was that it's exhausting do they have the depth beyond their superstars to sort of compete down the stretch if they're so exhausted from playing at that level all year and then matthew stafford's elbow so there's certainly some question marks on the ramp side we're so happy for Matthew Stafford.
Starting point is 01:08:06 He's playing a broken neck, split spleen, a couple of kidneys lost. How many lungs you got? He broke them both. I mean, he has been there, done that in Detroit. He goes to LA. Now he's a pitchman. He's on like four different commercials,
Starting point is 01:08:19 Super Bowl champion, having a time of his life. Now he's got to worry about this damn elbow. That ain't going to be a problem, Foxy. No problem at all. That ain't going to be a problem, Foxy. No problem at all. That ain't going to be a problem for Manny Stafford. Top of the sky in the NFL. He's got that text. I hope not.
Starting point is 01:08:29 I hope not, too, because him and Cup on the same page is magic to watch. And then you add in Sean McVay's over-excited, over-analytical. I mean, it's just what they could accomplish. And Aaron Donald's back. It's unbelievable. Can't wait to watch him. Darius, your question for Kay. Great.
Starting point is 01:08:43 Hey, great work, you two. Good TV earlier. Yeah. Great TV earlier. Appreciate you, to watch them. Darius, your question for K. Great work, you two. Good TV earlier. Yeah! Appreciate K for having me on, man. Big year, obviously. Huge year coming up. But we got a huge fantasy draft tonight. I know you're the OG in fantasy advice.
Starting point is 01:08:57 So I need some fantasy 101 right now for me and my teammate, Gertie. What do you need? I need some advice. Kay, we don't know shit about the block. We don't know anything. Sleeper. None of you play basketball? So me, AJ, and Darius do not.
Starting point is 01:09:14 We are being forced into Bruce's league today, and we are about to get laps run around us. We all have teammates, but our teammates happen to be the worst in the office. So we're just talking about just basic shit here, K. 101. We got the draft tonight, 8 p.m., Twitter spaces. Two kicker league and a punter.
Starting point is 01:09:30 Two kicker league and a punter, okay? This is a big deal. Whoever has the second pick should trade down before the draft even starts because the second pick is the suckiest spot to be in because everyone's going to take Jonathan Taylor first overall. And then at number two, you sit there and you say, should Derrick Henry go? Is he going to come back and get all the carries and stay healthy? Do I go with Justin Jefferson, who's almost a sure thing?
Starting point is 01:09:53 Or do I go Christian McCaffrey, who if he stays healthy, he blows everybody out of the water. So it depends on what's your appetite for risk. Do you have to go running back? I think so. I think you should definitely start with a running back, and I wouldn't take, obviously, the old rule. I'm an old grandma when it comes to this.
Starting point is 01:10:08 But quarterbacks late. Do you know that for the first time ever, Aaron Rodgers is ranked as the 13th? The disrespect. Because this guy's in the jungle doing ayahuasca. Hey, I was in the jungle, too. doing ayahuasca. You know what I mean? I was in the jungle, too. It's crazy because he's never been outside.
Starting point is 01:10:29 As a healthy quarterback, he's never been outside the top 10. I understand he loses Devontae Adams, but are we not talking about a back-to-back MVP? Are we not talking about an offensive creative mastermind in that before? Thank you, Kay. That's what we've been saying. I saw he was 13th-ranked quarterback.
Starting point is 01:10:46 I definitely knew that before you said it. I was like, these fucking people. I don't know. Is this fantasy or real life? Because both of them are wrong. That's right. And I don't like it at all. How much do you get penalized for throwing picks?
Starting point is 01:10:55 Because Aaron doesn't throw picks. I would imagine that helps in fantasy. Minus one. That ain't shit. It depends on what your league setting. Yeah, it's what your league settings are. So, wherever you play, you should definitely look. Some of them are four. In which case, like, I like James Winston,
Starting point is 01:11:07 but I don't like James Winston. Whoa! Winston? I don't know. Oh, is that because Sean Payton isn't a coach anymore? You hope he just does terrible down there at the Saints? Wow. I will say, no, he was actually really, really performing pretty well.
Starting point is 01:11:22 And before he got hurt, I think he had a winning record as a starter. he had more efficient numbers than he ever had in tampa bay i think he could throw a lot like dennis allen defensive minded coach i hope he can continue to get the best out of him i mean sean payton sort of got him to walk that line of aggressive and reckless really really well does that continue it's just too many there's so many questions with the saints michael thomas like are you a top 10 i believe so uh but there's there's i don't know there's j many questions with the Saints. Michael Thomas, like, are you a top ten? I believe so. But there's – I don't know. Jamison's a wild card. That's why we love him.
Starting point is 01:11:50 Yeah, he was awesome to watch. I mean, he kept his team in the games and the other teams in the games. And it was – he's the only quarterback in the history of the NFL that's been able to do that week in, week out when he was playing. But he had no eye. He couldn't see shit. That's right. The guy couldn't see.
Starting point is 01:12:03 He was blind. He's a whole new quarterback. Went to Harvard Quarterback School with Sean Payton, Drew Brees. He was on Trust Levels, which is a Players' Tribune podcast with Mark Ingram and Cameron Jordan. And they told him he's a 76 on Madden. And Cam and Mark ran through his stats, his career stats. Sounds like he's got the entire team on his fucking side. They could be a squad.
Starting point is 01:12:24 If he's not throwing picks, he's a guy. I like him, and I also like Chris Olave because if you have Michael Thomas and he's healthy, I think Chris as a rookie is in the best position. I think he balls out because he's not going to have all the attention of the defense. As we've seen, when Jameis is throwing for tons of yards, he can support a top-ten fantasy receiver. He had Chris Godwin and Mike Evans, so Michael Thomas can do that.
Starting point is 01:12:46 Olave has got the speed, downfield, Jameis, it all makes sense. I feel like we just got – sorry, buddy, your team's going to fucking lose. Yeah, deep hug. Your team's going to lose. Nah. Yeah, AJ, you got no shot. Me and Bill got picked. Yeah, you guys stink.
Starting point is 01:13:00 Yeah, you guys are fucked. Their team's going to stink. Sorry. All right, Ty, your question for Kay Adams. Yeah, Kay, you mentioned that you moved to L. Yeah, you guys are the absolute worst. Their team's going to stink. Sorry. All right. Ty, your question for Kay Adams? Yeah, Kay, you mentioned that you moved to L.A. in the offseason. Taking the temperature around the stadium kind of the last few days,
Starting point is 01:13:16 is it crazy that people are more excited now for Ozzy Osbourne than the game? Oh, man. I haven't been near the stadium. When I tell you I moved in the offseason, I moved last weekend while launching the show. I don't have air conditioning. I don't have anything in my name. I don't have the internet at my house. I don't think I'd use any of it if you had it in California.
Starting point is 01:13:33 I don't use the internet or energy or anything out there right now, I think. Welcome to Cali. Welcome to Cali. It's going to take me a minute to like Cali. I don't want any Cali hate from anybody. I'm much more city girl New York where I've lived for over 10 years It's going to take me a minute to like Callie. I don't want any Callie hate from anybody. But it's not. I'm much more city girl, New York where I've lived for over 10 years.
Starting point is 01:13:51 But I think people are excited. I mean, we got a nice game on Sunday. Raiders Chargers, I think, will be very exciting because all those Raiders fans that love this. And it'll be exciting tomorrow, but for nothing with the Buffalo Bills fans coming and breaking their elbows and shins, jumping off buses onto tables. They're having a party tonight. Sal Capaccio. Oh, yeah. It's going to be a good time. Connor, your question for Kay.
Starting point is 01:14:13 Yeah, Kay, since you are in L.A. now, do you get the sense that maybe if the Rams start a little slow that the Chargers are going to quickly become the team of the town? Or what do you think there? I hope so. I mean, Justin Herbertbert total mvp candidate stud nobody's done what he's done through two seasons not the most vocal leader but derwin james is incredible i caught up with austin eckler earlier this week just talking about it and and just the confidence they have in brandon staley and to me it all comes down to just
Starting point is 01:14:40 did you guys really exercise those chargers demons like Like, is it done? Or is it still going to creep up like it did? And they're super juiced up to start the season because they, of course, get to take on the Raiders who knocked them out last year. So there's a lot of storylines there. And they're just loaded. I mean, Keenan's a character. I've never, you know, I worked for the Rams
Starting point is 01:15:00 when I was in St. Louis, like in the Chris Long, Sam Bradford years. And they were never, you know, super supported there because they were losing under Jeff Fisher, you know, we know and love. But I would say the Chargers have always had my heart. And now they're loaded. I cannot believe that they're like Super Bowl being talked about or even that, you know, the candidacy of Justin Herbert.
Starting point is 01:15:20 It's so impressive and such a testament to Brandon Staley. What a badass he is. They're going all in, too. I mean, testament to Telesco and the ownership, paying to people jc jackson being out first that's not great on the back end but he'll be there whenever football matters yeah sure how did you how the fuck did you get here so you started with the rams that's where you how did So I went to Mizzou, which is in Columbia. M-I-Z-Z-O-U. I never went to a football game there. I never went to a football game there. I bartended and waitressed every game day because I would make like $1,000,
Starting point is 01:15:57 which just like saved my life and bought me books for the next semester. So I never went to Frohfield when I was there. But I went. So from there went to Faroe Field when I was there. But I went. So from there, I just got into fantasy football, just being competitive. And the SiriusXM launched this station. I moved to St. Louis with a boy. And I didn't want to be there because I'm from Chicago. But I took a job with the Rams where I was the girl, not on air.
Starting point is 01:16:20 I just wanted to do whatever I could do to get near the team and like in some capacity and i was the girl that would no joke pat at the edward jones dome the elephant graveyard of the nfl i would stand in the tunnel five feet tall 100 pounds with a headset smoke pyrotechnics and i'm after whatever speech the coach gives them in the thing and and they're about to come out, I'm holding, like, Steven Jackson back. Like, while he's trying to, and they're telling me his name, and they're like, Sonja, but I'm like getting dragged and, like, concussed by a helmet. You did a great job.
Starting point is 01:16:55 Look at you. Now you're ready. Yeah. Let's go. Let's take a trip back in time a little bit, shall we? Before Gorilla Trek. Sure. Before any trips to Europe or anything like that.
Starting point is 01:17:06 Tongue digs your question for Ted. Okay, this question used to be right up your alley. Which 90s sitcom star from the hit TV show Friends reminds you most of an NFL quarterback? Oh, my God. I don't know. What a question. What?
Starting point is 01:17:21 That's Good Morning Football. That is Good morning football. I know, but I would tee up those questions for the group trooping, and they would, like, eat that up and spit it out. I wasn't, you know, partaking. Oh, I don't know which friends. Who's a really strange quarterback? Phoebe would be Aaron Rodgers because I feel like she would do it.
Starting point is 01:17:40 Bullshit. Absolutely nailed it. This is what we've learned here. Aaron Rodgers is Phoebe And he's the 13th ranked Fantasy football quarter It's been a rough convo for Aaron Rodgers We know Ross is Rich Gannon
Starting point is 01:17:53 We've known that for years Rich Gannon, that's kind of silly He's a 90s quarterback No, 96 Listen to the question Who's Jen Aniston then? Herbert? Stafford? Joey Burrow.
Starting point is 01:18:08 No, Tom Brady. How do you feel about that? He's most successful, but she's the winningest. She's the one that stood out. She was married to someone as an equal in Brad Pitt before. I think there's Jen Aniston.
Starting point is 01:18:24 American sweetheart, like absolutely. Rom comedies like Ted 2, it all makes sense. What do you think it's on? I mean. Situation, not as a human. Anytime you open yourself up and you don't show up at an OTA, I mean Aaron Rodgers did the same thing. Like you're opening yourself up for judgment.
Starting point is 01:18:45 But, you know, at Good Morning Football, I was in a job for six years. By the sixth year, it sort of runs itself. If he needs some, you know, you don't have to be on every call. You don't have to micromanage everything. I think he's earned the right to sort of have his time away. But if he's not up to par, people are going to think that he's not all in. What an absurd question for Todd Bowles to be asked. But perception is reality.
Starting point is 01:19:04 It's just going to be, I hate the fact that if he's 45 and it catches up to him, and it will at some point, or if the offensive line just isn't what it was and he declines it all in his level of play, people are going to say, he's not all in. But he was all in through controversy on the field, family issues off the field. You know, he went and wasn't, wasn't he in Qatar like on a camel taking a selfie or whatever, and he missed OTAs, a volunteer camp. And he won a Super Bowl that year.
Starting point is 01:19:31 He was in Qatar? With Dude Perfect? Was he at the World Cup? Was he setting up the World Cup, you think? Did you guys just say, did you just say Dude Perfect? They were in Qatar too. I mean, you were tracking gorillas or whatever in Rwanda having incredible sound effects to really bring them in. But yeah, Dude Perfect was over there doing trick shots in Cutter.
Starting point is 01:19:54 People were not happy about it. No, they weren't. I didn't know. I missed that. I missed that headline. But Tom, it will be fascinating. Part of me, how is it going to end? We love that he's obsessed with the game.
Starting point is 01:20:05 I just want it to be the storybook that he wants it to be, and that's all I'll say. Yeah, I think it's going to be tough for him to give it up, and that feels like that is the root of all the conversations happening with him on the field and off the field. But if you're almost the MVP last year and you've still got a team back, why not go for another run? Excited to watch it.
Starting point is 01:20:21 $375 million waiting on him. Okay. If that ain't enough to get you to retire, I don't know what will be. Excited to find out. Kay, you are crushing it. $375 million waiting on him. Okay. If that ain't enough to get you to retire, I don't know what will be. Excited to find out. Kay, you are crushing it. We can't wait to watch Up and Adams every day on FanDuel TV. Before we go live, you're the best. Welcome back. Pat, thank you for
Starting point is 01:20:36 always being supportive. You are a bright light in this business, buddy. Thank you. And everybody, thanks guys. It's so good to see you. Yeah, you guys kind of stink. Thank you, Kay. All right. Ladies and gentlemen, it is time. And I honestly, this is one of the parts of the season that
Starting point is 01:20:53 I did miss. This is one of the electric factories that I haven't been able to visit for some time because it hasn't been a relevant conversation because the NFL season has not been at full swing.'s right shame ladies and gentlemen this man is the authority on ranking teams in the NFL he is the NFL's representative of where teams are ranked week to week of an NFL season it gets talked about a lot. It gets speculated a lot.
Starting point is 01:21:26 Fans get pissed. Some decisions are made that we can't see, but only this man can. Because he actually wields a thunderbolt. That thunderbolt is the power of understanding who's going to go and who's a no. Ladies and gentlemen, the host of the NFL Power Rankings, Dan Zeus. Yeah, Dan Zeus! No one has ever called me an electric factory. So speaking of people getting gassed up, this is outrageous.
Starting point is 01:21:54 I'm flying right now, Pat. So happy to be back. We're happy you're back into our lives. We saw your first Power Rankings the other day, and we fucking lost our shit. It was a standing ovation of full, Dan Zeus is back! Let's go!
Starting point is 01:22:07 We're judging teams that we know nothing about before the season even starts. That's Dan Zeus! Come on! That's all Zeus is! Zeus! Let's talk about the season before we get into your first ranking of
Starting point is 01:22:21 the NFL teams. This season you and Colleen Wolfe have launched the NFL Power Rankings Podcast. First episode won out yesterday, which is what we'll talk about. You can get it wherever podcasts are available. We love Colleen over here. We obviously love you. That's going to be a smashing success, but look for us to probably scrutinize your brain a little bit this season, Dan Zeus.
Starting point is 01:22:42 You know, I have no problem with that. And criticism is part of the job. Like I don't check my mentions for two to three days outside when the publishing first goes out, but it's not because I'm soft. It's because I got to let people let out their anger because I understand like, who am I? Who is anyone to say your team has no chance? You're 27, you're 28. And I could also say this, just because chance you're 27 you're 28 and i could also say this just because what you're ranked right now it doesn't mean i don't think you're any good like i like the jaguars for instance as a team that could surprise people uh this season and this time last year i had the bangles at 30 so it's like am i an idiot maybe but also a lot of people have the bangles out too that's one of the great things about our league dan dan dan you can't have me say everything i
Starting point is 01:23:24 just said about you being the authority and wielding a lightning bolt, and then you go, oh, it's Super Bowl team Bengals at 30 last year. It kind of kills your own credibility before we even fucking get started, Dan. Yeah, no, I guess I kind of banged myself on that one, but I think honesty is important, too, in journalism,
Starting point is 01:23:40 so I just want to say I'm not always perfect, but it's just fun, the snapshot of the season early. By the end of the season, of course, the Bengals made a steady march up the power rankings because we saw that team develop. So if you're low in the power rankings now, it doesn't mean that I, as the powering guys, think you suck. It means that that's where things stand now. But things can change as the season goes on. We've got a lot of football coming up. Danzers, why don't you just have one auto-reply? Sorry about it.
Starting point is 01:24:06 You know? It's not your fault. You're the authority. That is on them. That's not on you. Good luck with the podcast with Colleen. We can't wait to keep an eye and an ear on that all season. Let's go ahead and showcase your top 10 here before the season has even started. At number one, you have the Bills. That's the odds-on favorite in every
Starting point is 01:24:21 single sportsbook. Are you worried about them going to your number two team, LA? They're two-and-a-half-point favorites on the road. Love Josh Allen. Love the Bills. What are you ranking them one for, just because everybody else is, or what do you see in that team that makes them get the win tomorrow night? It just feels like this is it for the Bills. I do
Starting point is 01:24:37 think they're the most balanced team. I love the Von Miller move. The Tredavious White being absent is something that's on my radar for this Thursday, and they have two rookies in that secondary that you imagine Sean McVay and Matthew Stafford are itching to take advantage of. So at the same time, do I think that Josh Allen, remember last time we saw Josh Allen? That man was possessed. He is absolutely a top tier, top three player in this league, and I think we could have a fun shootout potentially in this game.
Starting point is 01:25:06 But yeah, I think it's a tough one, especially when you know that McVay in his career in openers is 5-0. And they outscore their opponent like 32-16 on average. So the Rams are going to be ready. And the Bills, after getting gassed up throughout the summer, they can't lay an egg here. They would make the power rankings look bad. They'd make the people in Western New York sad. Let's hope the Bills show up. I think they will. We can't lay an egg here. They would make the power rankings look bad. They would make the people in western New York sad. Let's hope the Bills show up. I think they will.
Starting point is 01:25:28 We can't have that. Nope. Sal Capaccio is sad. Hey, Dan Zeus, I'm looking at number three there, the Niners. Do you have a lot of faith in Trey Lance to put them there? We know the team around them should be really good, but we're just not sure what they have yet in the young quarterback. This was, I think, a lot of drawback here on Niners at three.
Starting point is 01:25:44 Yeah, I would say initially the most pushback I got is Niners at three. And whatever. Like, I love the Niners. That defense was top ten DVOA, according to Football Outsiders, last year without creating a lot of turnovers. So that side of the ball I believe in. Offensive side of the ball, yeah, Lance is a little bit of a projection. Of course he is.
Starting point is 01:26:04 But at the same time, when the Jimmy Garoppolo news came out, that was not great news for Trey Lance. You understand like everything you read and hear is that locker room loves Jimmy Garoppolo. He's a winner and he's a good dude and all that. But while Trey Lance might feel a little extra pressure, if he's the real deal,
Starting point is 01:26:21 he's going to ball out and it won't matter who's behind him. But the good news for the Niners, that makes me even more confident of them as a top three team, even if Lance does struggle, now you have that security blanket and Garoppolo, a guy that's taken to the Super Bowl before. But in general, I don't have him at number three if I don't think that Kyle Shanahan thinks that Trey Lance could be special. And just think about it. If Lance does hit the ground running and he's a baller, this team is better than anybody in the league potentially. I don't want to go backwards here, but Rams beat the Bills. Is it an immediate
Starting point is 01:26:49 flip-flop at the top, or is that not how Dan Zeus does his rankings? Yeah, that would probably necessitate a flip-flop unless something strange happens. Okay, your question, Darius. Man, I'm still shocked that this Niner's at three, but I'm going down to nine. He charges right under the Broncos.
Starting point is 01:27:06 A lot of moving parts to the Broncos. Obviously, Russ coming in. A lot of people coming back in that Chargers fold, and they obviously reloaded on defense. Why nine under the Broncos there? And Niners. Yeah. At the AFC West, obviously, I think I have them packed together,
Starting point is 01:27:20 and then the Raiders right outside there, the top ten. Here's the thing about the Chargers. It's all there. And you try not to think and get yourself all boxed in with Chargers going to Charger. It always seems to happen. But you just love what they've done on both sides of the ball. And I think, like, we had our NFL.com article you put out the week before the season, make your predictions for awards.
Starting point is 01:27:42 I have Herbert as my MVP. the week before the season, make your predictions for awards. I have Herbert as my MVP. And I think you say that this is a guy that is as special as it gets in his first two years. And when you take an elite, truly superstar quarterback with a really good roster, I think this is a year the Chargers do make that move, and I think they could even beat out the Chiefs for the division.
Starting point is 01:28:01 But I've shown respect right now for the Chiefs, keeping them ahead of the mix in that division. But the Chargers, obviously, a ton of upside there. Dan Zeus. So you got the Niners at three because you think Shanahan will figure it out. You got Herbert as your MVP and the Chargers at nine with a whole team loaded around them. I mean, every sentence that comes out of your mouth makes me wonder what the fuck's going on.
Starting point is 01:28:24 Honestly, do you battle for this? sentence that comes out of your mouth makes me wonder what the fuck's going on yeah honestly is is this uh do you battle for this like you got the buccaneers at four the bangles at five packers chiefs broncos chargers ravens round out the top 10 there is it a constant battle on where you're putting everybody everything absolutely i mean it's a struggle that that top 10 that you're looking at there to me any of those teams make sense as a Super Bowl team and when you ask me about these teams like I can talk about them in a way where I could see them as being a number one team potentially because they have that type of upside so yeah even if I have these teams lower in the top 10 I love them all but they got to go
Starting point is 01:29:00 in a certain order and a team like the Rams that's battle-tested and has a lot of that roster coming back, they're going to get a little more love than the Chargers, who I have to view with a little bit of suspicion, or the Ravens, who I really like their roster and the idea of Lamar Jackson being back healthy in a bounce-back year with John Harbaugh. But also, I'm not going to put them up at number three because we've got to see them show that they're back
Starting point is 01:29:23 in the early part of the season. Well, and, and you know who knows about that contract sure connor your question for dan zeus yeah dan just had damn near tore apart my apartment when i saw you had the patriots at 18 just because i respect your ranking so much and i basically am almost counting them out for the whole entire season is that because there's no oc and play caller and can you possibly see the patriots being maybe that Bengals team of this year's power rankings for you? So you were mad about 18? Yeah, I was.
Starting point is 01:29:52 Okay, because it's weird because I'm more into the Patriots than I feel most of the national media is. All you've read, and the local media up there in New England as well, Tom Curran called the offense a vehicle with square wheels. Use a term code. As they install a new offense. Here's the thing. Yes, do I think there's a little bit of a ceiling right now
Starting point is 01:30:14 and reason to be concerned as you put in a brand new offense and you have Joe Judge prominently involved and Matt Patricia? Sure, but I think a little too much has been made of that when you got the guy in the big chair, Belichick, here to figure it out. I think they could have, even in the best of times, as you know, Connor, as well as anyone, sometimes the Pats would come out of the gate a little slower as they figured things out. And then they would rip off the seven straight wins November into December
Starting point is 01:30:40 and off they roll into the playoffs. I think that could be a possibility because you just get the vibe that the offense is going to be a work in progress here initially. But I really like Mac Jones and I thought he was the best rookie quarterback last year. They're going to be okay. I think they're fighting for a playoff spot. I think they are a wild card team potentially,
Starting point is 01:30:57 which I haven't seen a lot of people picking them to get that far. I'm with you kind of Connor. Yeah. I mean, they could be a team. They could figure it out. You say Shanahan's going to figure it out. I just, I assume they could be a team. You say Shanahan's going to figure it out. I assume, much like you, I think
Starting point is 01:31:07 Belichick's going to figure it out. I'm happy I don't have to rank everybody in the top 32. When you released this list, this was your tweet. I don't know if you write it or somebody else does. Yeah. It is an impossible and frankly unfair task to expect someone to put
Starting point is 01:31:23 NFL teams in accurate ranking order before a game has even been played. And yet, I've done it. 32 for 32. Football is back and so are the power rankings. That sounds like Dan Zeus' throws. You know it, huh? You fucking know you're the guy. That's awesome. You look in the mirror and you say,
Starting point is 01:31:40 hey, there's the guy. You know it, huh, Dan? I've learned through doing this. I think this is my fourth season. They're 32 for 32 because I believe it. That's what I think it is. And if you disagree, you're welcome to mother F me down there in the comments and the tweets. I don't care.
Starting point is 01:31:57 That doesn't matter. I feel confident about where things are, and I love doing the power rankings, and I love McAfee gang having me on. It's fun, but you have to have confidence and you got to have thick skin or it's going to drive you crazy. Yeah, I'd assume you got to have skin like Warm Dylan. Darius, what were you going to say?
Starting point is 01:32:15 No, I mean, that three pick is still driving me crazy. I want to know who's at 30, Dan. Who's at 30 right now? Who's at 30? Let's see. Yeah, because Bengals last year in your ranking was at 30. Yeah, I got the Commanders at 30 right now. Oh, we have a lot to bet on them. We're talking about on them.
Starting point is 01:32:34 The Commanders I don't see being magical. But, yeah, the team in this bottom 10-12, as I kind of alluded to earlier, is the Jaguars. I just think they have a lot of things that could click into place that they could be contending for a playoff spot uh potentially uh this season i don't see i think the bangles what happened with them last year was just so much fun and and great to watch and my great friend who passed away last january on the around the nfl podcast uh my partner chris wessling was from the west side of cincinnati and we that was such a great ride for us on the
Starting point is 01:33:04 podcast to kind of remember west. But I also think that Cincinnati team's a once-in-a-decade type situation. I don't know if we have that type of team playing in the Super Bowl, but the Jaguars fighting for a playoff spot, I'm into. They got an indoor practice facility. They sold sponsorship to their stadium. They are a business now. That ain't a once-in-a-decade.
Starting point is 01:33:23 Dan Zeus, you're out of line right now i won't let you know i mean niners at three cincinnati bangles are dead i mean i guess we'll watch it all unfold but we already know what's going to happen because dan zeus with his lightning sword go ahead aj dan zeus where do you have the the raiders and don't you think they may be a team that could fly up your charts once the season starts? Yeah, Raiders fans, of course, they're fired up because I have them fourth amongst the division teams. I like the Raiders, but do I – here's what I like about the Raiders. I love, obviously, Devontae Adams being there. Dan, what are you –
Starting point is 01:33:56 Josh, we're doing this call and plays. What's that – what do I like? What's that? You don't like the Raiders? Dan, what does that sound like right there a little bit? I like them all right. I mean, number 11 is kind of a lukewarm endorsement of them being a potential powerhouse. I'd say that's where I feel about them. I really like Darren Waller as a bounce back guy.
Starting point is 01:34:14 And if you get that top tier Waller and Adams is the Packers Adams, Derek Carr is going to eat and throw 35 to 38 touchdowns. And that offense can score points. Yeah, we'll see. Can they get enough stops on D? I don't know. You got the Colts at 12. I remember last year you said, what, 13 was the spot where you don't know? Like, isn't that where you put –
Starting point is 01:34:33 Twilight Zone, yeah. Yeah, 13 is the spot where you don't know where you put people. You got the Colts at 12. You think it's a big bounce back here in Dan's brain, huh? I like it. And you know, Pat, like Shaq Leonard, Shaquille Leonard, he's such a big part of this. He needs to come back from that back injury, that surgery,
Starting point is 01:34:47 and be healthy and anchor that defense. And if that happens, then you start looking at the other side of the ball. Pittman could become a true pro ball, all pro type talent. I think he's got number one wide receiver potential. And Matt Ryan, I know this has been the summer of windmill and 360s and tomahawk dunks on Carson Wentz because everybody kind of seems to dislike the guy as a player at least. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:35:10 Whoa. Who's doing that? It's out there. You know that, Pat. It's out there. Who? The guy in Washington. Street's talking.
Starting point is 01:35:19 Carson Wentz is not a popular guy, so I think some of the Matt Ryan, the pumping up of Matt Ryan has been maybe a little overdone. I don't think we're getting the 2016 version of him, but I think he'll be absolutely a better version of the quarterback play they had last year. And I do see the Colts as the division winner. I like them in the South. This show doesn't like the windmill dunk on Carson. We like to have a fair, accurate thing. But you just said, well, Matt Ryan's going to be much better than whatever happened last year.
Starting point is 01:35:47 I mean, Dan, it's hard for you just not to bury everybody because you're old Zeus. You're the fucking guy. Is that the thing? Chargers are going to charge her. That's what you said earlier. Then he buried old Carson Wentz here. Dan Zeus, how'd you get into this game? Have you just been an NFL lifer here?
Starting point is 01:36:03 Been a fan watching it? How'd you get into the judgment game? Yeah, well, the judgment game, that was kind of, that was, I've been at NFL.com now since 2010. And eventually the gig opened up and I was like, oh, that looks fun. I want to try that. So that's how I got into the rankings game.
Starting point is 01:36:17 And it's been a lot of fun. And yeah, you know, I think I talked about it last time on, I grew up in New York as a Jets fan. And maybe that's where, if you're sensing too much pessimism, Pat, that might give you a lot of insight into why. Sometimes I look at the glass half full of certain teams. But I love football. I've loved it since I was a kid.
Starting point is 01:36:36 And I'm just lucky to write and talk about it. Yeah, we're lucky to have you, Dan Zeus. I mean, without you, how would we know who's the best and who's the worst? Time to dig your question for Dan Zeus. Yeah, Mr. Zeus. I mean, it's easy to talk about's the best and who's the worst? Tim, digs your question for Dan Zeus. Yeah, Mr. Zeus. I mean, it's easy to talk about the good teams. Who's the worst? Give me the worst.
Starting point is 01:36:50 Let's fucking talk about the worst team. Yeah, well, that means 32, and that's the Bears for me right now. Oh, come on. What the hell? And this is like sometimes it feels like piling on. And, like, I don't want to windmill dunk on the Bears because that city is a great city with great fans. And when's the last time there's been an exciting Chicago Bears team?
Starting point is 01:37:11 Man, this year. All right. Maybe. I would love it. Cole Komet. I like that. David Montgomery. Darnell Mooney.
Starting point is 01:37:17 There's some pieces. But I just hope this is my fear is that this time next year when dan zeus has to write the blurb for the bears i'm writing it's year three and we still haven't it doesn't feel like we've given justin fields a true shot to show who he is yet i hope that's not the case i hope this is a year of progress but the the roster right now it needs more work this is a work in progress i hope fields falls out but it's a big challenge for him. It is a transition year for a young quarterback. Two years in the NFL,
Starting point is 01:37:50 two head coaches, play callers, offense coordinator systems. That's a great way to start. A lot of great careers obviously start that way, but Justin Fields seems to be a guy who can handle it all. 32 out of 32 is not a good spot to be, especially for the third largest city in the United States of America.
Starting point is 01:38:05 But that's why they're going to Arlington to get this stink off them from Chicago. Ty, your question for Dan Zeus? Dan Zeus, sticking in the NFC North, I see you have the Packers at 6 there. Are you not really worried about any of the inexperience at wide receiver? And obviously the Packers' defense is maybe as good as it's been in the last 10 years or so. A lot of people were kind of picking the Packers to go to the Super Bowl a couple weeks ago, and I feel like they've maybe eased up on that.
Starting point is 01:38:28 Now the Vikings are kind of getting some of that steam. What do you see with the Packers moving forward? Yeah, I think a lot of people were kind of stunned by what happened in January and how the offense struggled so much in that loss to San Francisco. And then you see Devontae Adams leave town. But I still feel really good about him. Like you said, the roster is the defense is absolutely stacked.
Starting point is 01:38:49 And then you look on the other side of the ball and it's the back to back MVP Rogers. So I think there's a bit of projection that he's going to figure it out. Now they haven't always been able to develop wide receivers beyond Adam. So that's where you could say, all right, hold up here. I mean,
Starting point is 01:39:03 you have Christian Watson in the building, Romeo Dobbs, like you, you almost need one of those guys to be a dude this year, or you imagine Rogers is going to struggle, but he's talking them up. He, I know he said it talked about on your show. Like they, they believe in these kids and think they're going to make a, an impact. Nick Allen Lazard needs to step up. Can Sammy walk and stay healthy as Randall Cobb got anything left in the tank? I mean, they have a great running game, a great defense, a good offensive line, and an all-time quarterback. They're the NFC North champions.
Starting point is 01:39:33 Come on now. Dan Zeus, you're so good at what you do. That was a hell of a promo right there for the Green Bay Packers, just as you had enough information to bury the Bears and the Chargers and the Raiders. We appreciate your big brain, and we appreciate the big responsibility that you've placed solely on your own shoulders to be the authority on ranking teams in the NFL.
Starting point is 01:39:50 We appreciate you. Can't wait to talk to you again soon, pal. Appreciate you guys. Thank you. How was your offseason? Pretty good? Great. Great, yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:58 Good time with the family back on the Jersey Shore, and now we're in it. We're all the way back in it, and I'm ready for football. Danes, you're not a guy that just smokes copious amounts of marijuana? No? Not your style? No, it's not my thing at all. I'm like one of those guys where that makes me paranoid. Tito's and soda. Let's do it.
Starting point is 01:40:16 We need to have a Tito's and soda sometime, especially as we argue with that one team in the top ten that you deliberately fuck with so everybody loses their mind. Ah, we don't know. We're not sure if that's true or not.
Starting point is 01:40:28 We appreciate you. Good luck with the new podcast, the Power Rankings podcast with Colleen Wolfe. First episode debuted yesterday, wherever you find your podcasts. We'll talk to you soon, ladies and gentlemen. Dan Zeus. Yeah, Dan Zeus! That's a lot of fucking responsibility. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 01:40:44 When did it become Power Rankings instead of just ranking the teams? Well, they used to be basic bitch-ass rankings. And then they hit the gym, unlike Darius Butler. Hey, this guy tried to tear our entire gym apart over here, AJ. You'd love to hear that. What do you mean? He was working out, just getting after it? He was.
Starting point is 01:41:00 He was getting after it. We were having a little pump sesh over there, a real quick little pump sesh. He does a military press, starts hammering it out, and then he goes to re-rack it, misses the side, boom. Bang, pow, boom. And then this way went the other thing. We'll make everybody sign liability shit before they walk into Hawkeye. I'm glad he didn't get hurt.
Starting point is 01:41:18 I mean, that's how people get hurt. Yeah, I did. I got good shoulders. Can we get him a spotter next time? Just some fucking clamps. We have clamps. We don't know what it's on. Can't find them.
Starting point is 01:41:27 But that's on me. I put it left up. That's on me. We can't find the clamps. No. I think we use it for the setup in here. Yeah, it might be holding something up. It might be holding the ceiling up right now.
Starting point is 01:41:38 We do need clamps for a hawk up, so put that in your little list. Thunderdome looks good, dude. Does it? I mean, there's so much going on right now. I can't wait until we just settle in and talk. My schedule just settles in. I don't want to make this about me, but fuck, I'm the one living my life. So I'll let you guys have your thoughts on your lives as well.
Starting point is 01:41:57 It would be great just to settle into the NFL season. Right now, dealing with contractors and the finishing of construction. Yeah. Zito just said something in my ear that I learned just a few days ago that fucking completely. I mean, just it stopped me right in my tracks, stumped me and said, would anybody have thought of this? There's no light switches in the fucking thing. Everything's motion detector because that is what the company that wanted to do make it look like super high. So I go to my office for the first time and we don't have the furniture in there yet it's pitch black and then i'm like staying there for a second turn around then his fucking lights
Starting point is 01:42:31 just turn on i'm like oh my god you're like yeah it's motion detector i'm like well i motioned for half a fucking room here it didn't do anything and then it came out of nowhere and sometimes i like lights off am i gonna be sure can i get a light switch oh we'll put one in we'll put one in so then we go downstairs walk into the building like so is there like a no light switch everything is we've paid obviously top dollar to have yeah motion detector lights and it's like is there any way we could just turn in a uh how far you gotta walk in to turn on the lights the whole building you gotta walk down a pitch black uh hallway apparently then you gotta get around around a bend around another side to hit a
Starting point is 01:43:05 light thing that has five options on it. Okay. A lot of that stuff gets way too complicated. You don't say. Great job has been done. That place is fucking hilariously awesome. It's been a lot of hard work. CFO Phil and Tim are literally there
Starting point is 01:43:22 right now building stuff and piecing it together it's been a lot but there's just so many things that happen in a big project like that that it's just how did that even become a who agreed to the we got sinks that have no front we have we have like stainless sinks god damn it what do you mean they have no front they're like art they're super artsy artsy the water just runs in the ground no well science says it doesn't but you put your hands there i think it's right on the ground but i assume it's top dollar it was fucking when it was decided like this is the best sink of all time and then we see it all for the first time
Starting point is 01:43:54 tim phil everybody that was basically there included is like this it's not a sink this is this is just like kind of a splash thing almost what's this? We'll get a new one in – when's that going to be? January. Okay. So we've got no change. But it's been a hell of a project. I'm very thankful it's coming to a close. I'm happy that we're going to be moving in there very soon.
Starting point is 01:44:15 I'm thankful for everybody's hard work. But I'm pumped for that type of shit to not be in my life. I'm excited for that. Just like Lamar Jackson, all negotiations are done. You know, one season starts. There's no more of those. Let's play ball. Kind of settling in. I'm very excited for that. That's why I'm so thankful, I think, for tomorrow. And before we
Starting point is 01:44:33 get there, we've got to make our predictions. Here we go. Let's run around these divisions real quick and pick our winners. Myself, AJ, and Darius will do that. I think most of our answers will probably be similar. And if we go chalk, just with the favorites, I'm not embarrassed of that at all. And there's been people that have
Starting point is 01:44:50 parlayed our picks in the past. This is a great parlay. Probably have massive odds. It might pay off for you. Five, six months for you for now. AFC North? Me? Bengals. AJ Hawk, your picks for the win. i was taking bangles all along too okay sounds like this how this is gonna go again yeah i thought you were taking radio like darius your pick i got baltimore okay baltimore is lamar trying to get a massive bag if the deal doesn't get done by sunday they
Starting point is 01:45:21 say it won't happen baltimore is the to win that. And I got a lot of faith in Lamar. I love Lamar. But the Bengals is the Bengals. I don't know what we're even at this point. The Bengals is the Bengals. Joey Burrow, who will be joining us tomorrow at 12.15 Eastern Standard Time. First appearance on this show will be tomorrow
Starting point is 01:45:40 for Joey Burrow. I met him in real life. Cool. You see everything he does? Cool. There's no reason to think he'll be a one-hit wonder. They bring in an offensive line to protect him. He's still got Jamar. They got their defense.
Starting point is 01:45:50 Why not the Bengals? I don't know. They're building an indoor facility. I like them. Let's go to the AFC South. Colts, obviously, favorite and going to win it. Darius?
Starting point is 01:46:00 Whoa, whoa. I go Colts, too. I go Colts. Okay, AJ? Yeah, I was thinking Titans, but I'm going Colts here. I don't love it now. Shit. That's tough.
Starting point is 01:46:09 Let's go Colts. Matt Ryan, let's go. Yeah, Matty Ice. AFC East, Buffalo Bills, we're all on the same page. Ooh. I'm going to go left here. I'm going to go Dolphins. Do it, AJ.
Starting point is 01:46:20 Hey, I like it. You like it? I mean, we're going to learn a lot here. I'm going Dolphins, yeah. A lot of moving parts. Everybody's on that Bills bandwagon, so that is enough for me to jump off. So I'm going Dolphins. Okay.
Starting point is 01:46:32 Fuck. I wouldn't advise anyone to tell me, though. This is purely a Dolphin. AJ? I do like the pick from Darius, but I will take the Bills here. Okay, I like the Dolphins as well, by the way. No Patriots choices. That's where the Patriots want to be.
Starting point is 01:46:46 AFC West. Go ahead, AJ. You go first. You know what? I'm going to take Chargers here. Chargers. Wow. Take the Raiders.
Starting point is 01:46:58 That's what I was thinking. I was either Raiders or Chiefs in my eyes. I mean, that's a toss-up almost in the West. Well, I mean, believe me, Russell Wilson fucking walking out of his house looking like a goddamn angel from heaven in his white Goodman brand linen costume walking to a Rolls Royce.
Starting point is 01:47:13 Let's Ride just ran through my head, rode through my head like 30 times while I was looking at this. Probably should have done a little bit more prep and not just made this decision on the spot. All right, give me the Kansas City Chiefs. Wow. Yeah give me the Kansas City Chiefs. Wow. Yeah, they're still the Chiefs. The Chiefs are still the Chiefs.
Starting point is 01:47:30 NFC North, we're all on the Green Bay Packers, right? Yeah. Easy. That's easy. Everybody in the room almost. NFC South, go ahead, AJ. I got to go with the old Tampa Tom here for sure. Okay, Darius? Give me Jameis and the Saints.
Starting point is 01:47:45 Me too. I'm going with the Saints as well. Although I think Panthers, if Baker can stay healthy and Christian can stay – that's a lot. That's a lot. I'm going to stay out of it. I like the Panthers. They got him at plus 1,000.
Starting point is 01:47:57 That's wild. But, yeah, Saints. Tampa still makes playoffs. Yeah. Tampa still makes playoffs. Tampa still a problem for everybody in the playoffs. I think Saints go on a run here. NFC East, who do you like,
Starting point is 01:48:07 Darius? Easily the Eagles here. Easily. AJ? Dallas Cowboys. Gimme the New York football fuck no. Nah, I can't do it. No offense, Giants. I apologize. This is two days in a row where I've dunked
Starting point is 01:48:23 on the Giants, and I don't mean to do so, but you all recognize where you're at. If you guys get four or five wins, you'll be pumped. If you get six or seven, you're stuck with Daniel Jones for at least another couple years. It's a whole situation in New York. Don't mean to say anything. Commanders could surprise people because Carson can play. Hey, Carson can play. Very, very, very good.
Starting point is 01:48:43 The Dallas Cowboys got Big Mike McCarthy. There's a clip of him this morning chit-chatting about how he loves, he loves his relationship with Jerry Jones. I don't want to steal it from him. This was Big Mike McCarthy talking about him and Jerry Jones' relationship this morning, which makes it very difficult for me not to pick the Dallas Cowboys. Run that thing, Foxy?
Starting point is 01:49:02 I don't look at nervous as being a, you know, that's why I'm saying it the way I'm saying it. I don't think it's a negative. I think all energy, you know, Jerry thinks all news is good news. I think all energy is good energy. So, I mean, that's, we kind of meet halfway there, but that's another
Starting point is 01:49:17 topic. Hey, Jerry, this ain't good news. That's what Mike McCarthy has had to say to Jerry when Jerry goes, now listen, Mike, we can turn this this is fucking bad news that is a hilarious picture into their relationship that started the first night, right, the first press conference Mike McCarthy and Jerry Jones sitting up there on the table
Starting point is 01:49:34 obviously hung over, fucking got after it the night before at Jerry's house, it was alluded to in the press conference, Mike McCarthy also said I told Jerry I fucking watch every snap from last night, I did notrett I fucking watch every snap from last night. I did not do that, obviously. So I enjoy that relationship.
Starting point is 01:49:49 I like the Dallas Cowboys this year a lot more than any other year, especially with Zeke and Dak trying to do their thing. Too many fucking dogs in Philadelphia. Give me the Eagles. Give me Sirianni. And now for the NFC West, a division that has been, you know, talked about for the last couple years is Murderer's Row.
Starting point is 01:50:08 The reigning Super Bowl champions are in there. Number three overall team in Dan Zeus' power rankings are in that division. AJ, we'll start with you. Who do you like in the NFC best, the NFC beast, the NFC West? This one definitely is a little difficult for me between the Rams and the Niners, but I'm going Rams here. Darius. I'm going Rams.
Starting point is 01:50:31 Give me the Rams. Clean sweep. Give me the Rams. Take the Seahawks. Okay, that's a no. That's $2,000. That's going to be a no from me just to win the division. So, those are big odds.
Starting point is 01:50:43 I mean, just to win the division plus $2,000. Sheesh. I'll, just to win the division plus 2,000. Sheesh. It'll take a flyer. I mean, the Falcons are plus 32 fucking hundred. Yeah, that's insane. They have no faith in fucking. Everyone thinks they're going to be terrible. Artie Smith was getting into it with somebody.
Starting point is 01:50:58 They asked about Desmond Ritter or something, and they kept following up about how many reps he'll get with the ones or whatever. And Arthur's like, we're not doing this every day. He's not a star. He's like, I'm not doing this every single day with you. I enjoyed it. But all right, so we got our picks in for the division. Now it's time to do the MVP.
Starting point is 01:51:16 Now it's time to pick the MVP. Here's the odds. Josh Allen is leading the way at plus 700. Patrick Mahomes at plus 800 with Tom Brady. Justin Herbert plus 900. Aaron Rodomes at plus 800 with Tom Brady. Justin Herbert plus 900. Aaron Rodgers at a plus 1,000. Joey B., who will be on tomorrow. Russell Wilson, Matthew Stafford, Dak Prescott.
Starting point is 01:51:33 Round out the top eight here, I believe. Nine, three, six, eight, nine. Top nine here. Darius, your selection for the MVP. Justin Herbert. You already know, no surprises here. I'm going Justin Herbert. Love him. Love him. Everything nine here. Darius, your selection for the MVP. Justin Herbert. You already know. No surprises here. I'm going Justin Herbert.
Starting point is 01:51:47 Love him. Love him. Everything about him. Everything about him. What about the fact that they have not even made the playoffs yet? And anything like that scare you or no? No. Close games, they end up losing, don't they?
Starting point is 01:51:56 Yeah. You know, Brandon Staley, rookie head coach, super, super aggressive. But I do like how much he goes with analytics, how much he trusts with analytics how much he trusts his quarterback in that offense um you know another year together and then he just loaded up on defense so um but i like herbert man i like the chargers a lot too these are just questions i would be asked about picking justin herbert over somebody like josh allen or patrick mahomes aj who are you picking i like a rod here man i just think honestly i think he's got chip on his
Starting point is 01:52:24 shoulder he's got the plant medicine coursing through his veins. I think he does it for a third time in a row. Ayahuasca a couple years ago. Finds his love for football again. Finds his love for himself. Goes on to win a couple MVPs. Has another experience down there in the jungle with more Ayahuasca. He's doing Aaron Rodgers Tuesday again, which is fantastic.
Starting point is 01:52:45 Seems to be in a more coaching leadership role with the team so he's probably in a clear headspace feels like he has a little bit more authority that he has earned around time he's getting back to back to back aaron rogers plus a thousand everybody knew that's who we were going to pick darius i respect your choice josh allen obviously is high on everybody's charts because of how the season ended last year. 58-yard flick of the wrist in 30-degree weather for, I mean, just a beautiful seed from Josh Allen. He is the prototype.
Starting point is 01:53:14 He's 6'6", 245, runs a 4'5", can jump over everybody, can throw the ball forever, understands the game well. The team is built around him. So it's an obvious reason why he's the odds-on favorite. Patrick Mahomes already been there. Tom Brady on another revenge tour. Is he coming back on his last year to win an MVP? Almost won it last year. All great choices.
Starting point is 01:53:34 All great choices. Has there ever been a three-peat winner at MVP? Back-to-back-to-back. That's a great question. I don't think so. You know who knows the answer to that? Aaron Rodgers. You wouldn't know.
Starting point is 01:53:50 Brett won two, right? Yeah, definitely. Did he win three in a row? Did Favre win three in a row? 95, 96, 97. He's the only one. Okay, so Aaron's definitely getting it. So that is definitely happening.
Starting point is 01:54:01 That is probably something. Yes. All right, sweet. We just went plus 1,000 to it right now. If you would like to get a little bit of the action, That is definitely happening. That is probably something. Yes. All right, sweet. Even better. We just went plus 1,000 to it right now. If you would like to get a little bit of the action, let's go with Offensive MVP, Player of the Year. Jonathan Taylor leads the way for everything.
Starting point is 01:54:16 Justin Jefferson? Yeah, he goes across the top. Holy shit, I just got a photo from the Thunderdome. They have not added light switches, but there is TVs that are turned on and ready to go. We are getting very close. Justin Jefferson, that's so interesting to me because this is a non-quarterback offensive award here. The MVP is the quarterback award. Offensive MVP is who has a great, outstanding offensive year that isn't a quarterback so i'm
Starting point is 01:54:47 gonna go with jonathan taylor how you doing keep moving matt ryan knows the assignment he's gonna hand that fucking ball off we got the offensive line he was great last year he's only gonna get better i think matt ryan's not gonna check out any plays i got jonathan taylor not only because he's the favorite his hometown guy because it's the right choice. AJ, your decision. I like Devontae Adams here for this. Man, you think Derek's just going to feed him, huh? I think Josh McDaniels is an unbelievable play caller. I think they're going to find a way to get this dude open. I think even if he's not open, he'll still make plays.
Starting point is 01:55:16 And he's got Darren Waller, Hunter Renfro, and numerous other people taking a little bit of attention away from him on the defensive side and the game-planning side. He might be more open and have more one-on-ones than he's ever had in his entire NFL career. That's a problem. Derek Carr, great quarterback. Will he be able to keep up? Will he be able to feed everybody?
Starting point is 01:55:34 We shall see. Devontae Adams, plus 2,000 right now. That sounds like a great bet, actually. Darius, your choice? Big fan of continuity here between the two LSU receivers, Jefferson, but I'm going to go with Jamar Chase. Better value, plus $3,000. Second year with Burrow, really third year, including college.
Starting point is 01:55:52 Meet Jamar Chase. Hard to double as well. Good receivers around him. Meet Jamar. He would dress awesome at the awards ceremony. He would dress so. He has great fashion, great swag. He buys Joey Burrow's clothes. Everything we buys Joey Burrows clothes. Yeah, he does. So everything we see Joey Burr walk into stadiums wearing,
Starting point is 01:56:12 Jamar Chase has bought for him. Okay. Isn't that amazing? I like it. Joe says he doesn't even look at it. He just, yeah, whatever. It's chemistry. I'm just going to put it on.
Starting point is 01:56:18 Whatever. Let's trust. He looks super cool. He's got that curly hair. He's got a Mara 1215. I don't know how many more times I need to say it. Very excited. Very excited, Joe. Yeah, you should. I think so. I think it's a great choice. What's on tomorrow at 12-15. I don't know how many more times I need to say it. Very excited. Very excited, Chum. Yeah, you should. I think so. I think it's a great choice. What's his
Starting point is 01:56:28 odds right now, Jamar Chase? Plus 3,000. That's a lot of good, tasty. Yeah. All right, let's go to Defensive Player of the Year here. This is somebody that's an absolute game wrecker. TJ Watt was last year's Defensive Player of the Year. This year Miles Garrett is the odds-on favorite. AJ, we'll let you
Starting point is 01:56:44 start this thing as the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers. Who do you think is going to have a massive year? I think Nick Bosa is going to have a big year, but I'm not going to pick him for this award right now. I have to go Aaron Donald. I think he gets off to a fast start tomorrow night. Darius Butler, your thought?
Starting point is 01:57:00 Damn, I was thinking Nick Bosa too, but I'm going to defensive rookie of the year last year. I think he follows that up with an even better year. Michael Parsons. Man. Dallas Cowboys. That's who I was going to pick. So I don't want to pick the same person.
Starting point is 01:57:14 Let's zoom in a little bit here. Where's Chandler Jones at? Is he even on there? He's probably on there somewhere. There he is. Post 6,000. Oh, shit. He's pretty tasty. Give me Chandler somewhere. There he is, plus 6,000. Oh, shit. It's pretty tasty.
Starting point is 01:57:25 Give me Chandler Jones. Okay. Give me Chandler Jones. If you look at his stats, I think everybody's going to go, holy fuck, how is this guy not the top of this thing? Going to a new home, has a new chip on his shoulder, has a team around him, has Crosby that can eat blocks on the other side. Look for Chandler Jones to have a disgusting year this year.
Starting point is 01:57:44 What are his odds? 6,000. Fucking love it. Let's go. D-Buck and Jair Alexander plus 6,000 win defense MVP. Me could. It's just so tough at that corner position. We got the last guy who's done it with the Colts here with Gilly Lock. It's really tough to do at that
Starting point is 01:57:59 corner position. Is TJ Wyatt? He has a chance to go back to back here. His brother did. None of us picked him. What's that all about? We back-to-back here, doesn't he? I don't see why not. His brother did. None of us picked him. What's that all about? We don't like TJ? Ah, that's weird.
Starting point is 01:58:09 You don't like TJ? Love TJ. Doesn't sound like it. Love TJ. I hope they're not playing from behind at all. Somebody said. Oh, they're going to be chasing, you think? I don't want teams to run the ball too hard.
Starting point is 01:58:18 Oh, even more, Chandler Jones. You've got Patrick throwing a lot. Yeah. You've got Herbert throwing a lot. You've got Russ moving and throwing a lot. Yeah. Let's go, dude. We're going to have to go, dude. He's going to have to get there quick.
Starting point is 01:58:27 What? So those guys are going to be open. On every team they're playing. All right. All right, everybody. They're going to be throwing a lot, though. Yes, definitely. Which is more opportunity.
Starting point is 01:58:36 Who knows how many sacks he's going to get. They're going to have to win, though, right, for him to get the defensive player of the year. Any other picks? What else did we say we were going to do? I'll coach the year. Comeback player of the year. Comeback player of the year. Here we go. Let's do comeback player of the year. Any other picks? What else did we say we were going to do? Coach of the year? Comeback player of the year. Comeback player of the year. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:58:47 Let's do comeback player of the year. Christian McCaffrey. Obviously, everybody has eyes on him because he's returning. Derek Henry was the leader in rush yards like seven weeks after he had been injured or something like that. That's how dominant he was early before getting hurt. Jameis Winston is in there, plus 600. What's he returning from? Just an ACL injury and a lapse of starting,
Starting point is 01:59:12 and he's got new eyes since the last time we've seen him. A lot of weapons. Same team. Michael Thomas is down there. Allen Robinson has gone over to the Los Angeles Rams alongside Cooper Cup. Darius, we'll let you start this one. Who do you got?
Starting point is 01:59:25 I'm down there. Great odds. Julio Jones, plus 5,000. I fell for this last year. Nope. I'm back. That was with Tannehill in Tennessee. He's in Tampa with Tom Brady and Alex Guerrero, TB12 method.
Starting point is 01:59:41 I think he bounces back. Everybody said Odell was washed when he was out there in Cleveland. I think we get the same story here with Julio. Plus 5,000 comeback player of the year. Lock it in. Man, I wasn't even... I was off the... I'm going to overreact to Julio Jones being Julio Jones. He's back in number six, too. Oh, he changed that shitty...
Starting point is 01:59:57 He got 85. Now he's in six. What was he doing? I don't know. You know, training camp. A lot of guys on the team. A lot of guys got there. He didn't want to rough on his brothers. Yeah, just wait until, you know, it's a smaller roster. Some of these moms get out of your order, Jones. How do you guys feel about Brian Robinson being the third shortest odds on the?
Starting point is 02:00:13 Yeah. Wait, what? After getting shot last week. Oh, no. Two weeks ago. You don't know when he'll be back. Is he a rookie? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:21 He can even come back player of the year. Well, he got shot in training camp. He got shot, yeah. He got shot in training camp. That counts. That's quite a comeback. Yeah. He can even come back Player of the Year. He got shot in training. He got shot, yeah. That counts. That's quite a comeback. Yeah, true, true. I mentioned this on the show when it came up, that you never know how you're going to react
Starting point is 02:00:33 when somebody comes up to you to try to rob you. Bryan Robinson knows that he will fight him. In the middle of broad daylight, you're trying to take my car, I'll fight you. And then he got shot for it. And that is, I'm not saying everybody should do that, I'm just saying a lot of us have wondered, you know, when some bum comes walking down the street here screaming at themselves,
Starting point is 02:00:51 I'm like, if this person has a moment of clarity and says, oh, I want to get money from that person, how am I going to react? Am I going to left hook through the jaw? Or am I just going to be like, all right, relax, if there's any weapons. Brian Robinson knows. I'm not saying everybody should act that way, but I do believe he deserves to be on the comeback player of the year. If he gets shot in the streets of D.C. in the middle of training camp
Starting point is 02:01:08 in broad daylight. I just assume if he has a really good year, they're going to give him offensive rookie of the year. And comeback player of the year. Good point. Usually they don't do both. So you're saying let's not waste our time on Brian. Yeah, I just feel like usually they just give everybody one award.
Starting point is 02:01:20 Give me Derrick Henry. Nice. I'll take the odds on favorite, Derrick Henry. award give me derrick henry nice i'll take the odds on favorite derrick henry he led the nfl in rushing seven or eight weeks after he was on ir let's not forget that let's say in who knows what julio's years like if derrick henry's playing for the tennessee titans too that's a completely different defense you're facing i think all season him getting hurt changing the entire thing they still were number one seed in the afc somehow. Coach Vrae is going to figure it out with him, feed him the rock. And that's us making prognostications.
Starting point is 02:01:48 Good for us. We're a show. Let's go. Hey, good luck, AJ. Good luck, Darius. Good luck. I'll take Baker for comeback player of the year. Baker?
Starting point is 02:01:56 Plus he was down there. I've seen him. Plus 2,000. I didn't make a pick, so that's my pick. Oh, I thought you picked somebody. I'm sorry. I was going between he and McCaffrey, I think. I wasn't really sure, but I want Baker.
Starting point is 02:02:05 So none of us have faith Christian McCaffrey is going to remain healthy. No. That's kind of the – not that we don't like Christian McCaffrey. Love him. Love him. I think he runs too hard. He runs too hard. He wants to punish defenders too much, which I love and I respect,
Starting point is 02:02:17 but that scares me a little bit. We figured that out last year, right, because we had a same-game parlay on him, and every time he got the ball, it was like he's trying to explode through every bounce of Texas. I hope he's got a better bet on him, I guess, with the props. Yeah, it was until the first quarter. Also, can guys be too muscle-bound? He has so
Starting point is 02:02:36 little body fat. He is so jacked that it's like there is no room for air. If anything gets... Yeah, but think about it. There's guys that have been like 1%, 2% body fat. Bob Sanders. That's just like, that's how they are. Yeah. But T.O. Think about it. There's guys that have been like 1%, 2% body fat. Bob Sanders. That's just like, that's how they are. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:48 Bob. That guy. Bob got hurt. Yeah. Christian McCaffrey got hurt. But there's a lot of like guys that are just absolutely strapped that don't. Tyree Kill. I mean, look at Tyree Kill.
Starting point is 02:02:58 Yeah. True. That is T.O.'s another guy. Christian McCaffrey though is, I mean, he was created to be a professional athlete. His mom, I think, professional athlete. Dad, obviously, professional athlete. Grandma and grandpa, both sides, professional athlete. Olympians. I think, like, uncles and aunties.
Starting point is 02:03:14 Brothers playing college, right? The whole family. He was built to be the person he is. Let's just hope he can survive because he's electrifying to watch. That was picking... Hey, good for us. There you go, boys. Let's get the hell out of here, huh? What are we saying?
Starting point is 02:03:27 What are we saying today? Tomorrow. When we wake up tomorrow. Yeah. Oh, my God. The air is going to be a little fresher. That's right. The food is going to taste a little bit more delightful, Kaboli.
Starting point is 02:03:41 Hell, yeah. The water is going to be a little bit more quenching. The morning dump's going to be smooth and beautiful. Talking no wipes. No, home one. No hitter. Ghost dump. That's tomorrow. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:56 We'll see you guys in about 20 hours and 50 minutes. And I promise you, when you see us tomorrow, we're going to be too much. Yeah. We're going to be a lot. We're going to be tough to handle. Definitely. We got Joey Burrow tomorrow. We got Andrew Whitworth tomorrow.
Starting point is 02:04:11 Come on. We have another potential surprise guest coming in on this NFL kickoff Thursday, September 8th. Let's go. Let's have one, huh? Here we go. I don't know if the commission is joining us, but we will put a request in. Hell yeah. Let's go.
Starting point is 02:04:24 Big thanks to Danzers, Kay Adams, and Sal Capaccio and Mark Caboli for joining us today. I had a lot of fun. I hope you enjoyed it. College game day's happening. Let's go. Yes. That is pretty big. And we have winners to announce here on this
Starting point is 02:04:39 Winners Wednesday. We'll put up the graphic as soon as we get out of here. Hammer. Dad. We'll be in about 10-15 minutes. You are the best. Goodbye. See you manana.

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