The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 738 - Monday Night Football Recap, Aaron Rodgers Tuesday Season 3 Week 1, Rex Ryan, Jordan Poyer, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: September 13, 2022

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about last night's crazy Monday Night Football game in Russ Wilson's return to Seattle, people second guessing Nathaniel Hackett's clock management and decisions late in the game, Geno Smith playing his best football since being at West Virginia, and what to expect from these two teams moving forward. Joining the progrum to chat about everything that happened in week 1 of the NFL season and what his biggest takeaways were is Super Bowl Champion, former Head Coach of the New York Jets and Buffalo Bills, and current ESPN NFL analyst, Rex Ryan (19:00-42:10). Next, friend of the progrum and All-Pro Safety for the Buffalo Bills, coming fresh off an interception and a massive win in the season opening game on Thursday Night in Los Angeles, Jordan Poyer joins the show to chat their big win, what this week will look like as they prepare for the Titans, Josh Allen being a DAWWWWWWWWG, and much more (51:44-1:09:56). Later, Super Bowl Champion/MVP, 4x and back-to-back MVP, 10x Pro Bowler, 5x All-Pro, proprietor of the Aaron Rodgers Book Club, Quarterback of the Green Bay Packers, Aaron Rodgers joins the progrum for season 3, episode 1 of Aaron Rodgers Tuesday. Pat, Aaron, and AJ chat about the Packers' disappointing loss against the Vikings on Sunday, why he's not panicking, what they'll adjust moving forward, what kind of mental mistakes they made, what this week will look like, and much much more (1:09:58-1:46:23). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people. It is episode one of the unprecedented season three of Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, September 13th. Let's start now. Football is here. We have a full NFL week one slate in the books. It ended last night in Seattle where Russell Wilson returned to the town in which he became a legend. Returned to the town in which he became a Super Bowl champion. Returned to the town in which he became a legend, returned to the town in which he became a Super Bowl champion, returned to the town that he got his ass booed in last night on Monday Night Football. Geno Smith stole the show. Pete Carroll was bouncing around. Rumors were in abundance.

RG3 beat a hawk. It was a magical evening and a magical way to start the Joe Buck and Troy Aikman era of Monday Night Football. There was a Manning cast as well in which we all watched along when Peyton was looking at Nathaniel Hackett, first-year head coach, making poor clock management decisions in a lot of people's eyes. I'm excited to hear what Nathaniel Hackett thinks. Nonetheless, Brandon McManus, who has a massive leg, misses.

Why about that much? 62 yards, that ball was in the upright. 63 yards, that ball was kissing off the upright probably. And 64 yards, that thing sideways, landing right in front of Seattle Seahawks general manager John Schneider. If you watch the clip back, and we do have it, we'll get it from the back version, but if you watch this bomb from McManus,

I think he thinks it's in when it's leaving his foot. The ball starts turning a little bit sideways. Now, that could be wind, could be because he caught it a little bit fat, but nonetheless, McManus, who has a massive leg at mile high and at sea level, misses inches. Schneider right there there arms crossed right underneath he was on the sideline as they were figuring out all the fuckery of the timeout no timeout clock run clock doesn't run they're about to line up for that 64 yard field goal the seattle seahawks fans

were loud pacific northwest fandom is always loud they proved it once again last night i think he ran over and was like i'm fucking gonna get a look at this thing for myself. Seattle Seahawks and Geno Smith get a big-time dub. Congrats to them, and congrats on the NFL for going off with an electrifying weekend. Great weekend, NFL. The goal line stands last night with

fumbles going the other way. Another inside-the-five drive that only resorted in three points for the Denver Broncos. They're going to have to figure a lot of stuff out. Jerry Judy is very fast. I think I forgot that. I think we all did. There was playmakers all over the field, but it was Geno Smith's evening. I can't wait to chit chat with all of our guests today. Obviously Rex Ryan will join us in about 10 minutes. I'm sure he'll have some thoughts on how Geno played last night because he and Geno, different era of both of their careers. Geno has his big, hey, I'm back.

I've been behind two Hall of Fame quarterbacks in Eli and Russell Wilson. This is the new version of me with a team completely empowering Geno. He's playing. Excited to hear what Rex Ryan says about that. He's also here for Dr. Schultz. Okay. Really? Yeah, foot stuff.

Oh. They are the best, dude. This is awesome. Genius. That's like walking on clouds. It's a couple years too late. Yeah, foot stuff. Oh. They are the best, dude. This is awesome. Genius. That's like walking on clouds. It's a couple years too late. Yeah, right. But it's right on time.

Hell yeah. Cannot wait to chat with Rex Ryan about the NFL season. Also, what he's got cooking with Dr. Schultz for their athlete's foot treatment, basically. Okay, go on. Making it easy and making the stigma of the conversation kind of disappear a little bit. If your feet are uncomfortable, Dr. Schultz has a way to fix it. And Rex Ryan's here to tell you about it. Also today, Jordan Poyer of the Buffalo Bills, the number one team in all the sports books to go in and win the Super Bowl.

They obviously went to the Los Angeles Rams last Thursday and pondered them. Jordan Poyer had a pick. He's a friend of the show. The conversation should be fantastic. Then at 2.05 Eastern, Aaron Rodgers will be here for the first conversation of Season 3 of Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, the unprecedented, groundbreaking, trailblazing Aaron Rodgers Tuesday that we are very lucky to be a part of.

Can't wait to hear what he's got to say. He's had a couple days to sit down now. Not only was his new haircut that looks super cool, but on that Packers disappointing performance from this past weekend against the Vikings, who might be the greatest team in the NFL. We do not know at this point. It's only week one. Excited to hear what he has to say.

Today should be a great day. The Talks table is here at Ty Schmidt at Boston Corner. Ty, did you expect Russell Wilson to get that response last night in Seattle? To be honest, no, not really. I figured it'd be kind of the same thing as all these other guys who have switched teams from one year to the next. Very touching tribute before the game, and then as the game started, everything kind of shifts.

But they showed it. I mean, when he came out onto the field initially in warm-up, they booed his ass. They booed his ass from the get-go all night. It really did seem – I mean, you can take however you want to when people talk about revenge games and shit like that. Last night did kind of seem like it meant more to the Seahawks. It really did seem, I mean, you can take however you want to when people talk about revenge games and shit like that. Last night did kind of seem like it meant more to the Seahawks. It really did.

Like, they really wanted to shove it up Russ's ass for leaving. Well, and it feels like, and to your point on that, Pete Carroll in the night before a game meeting, you know, it's the last time you're chit-chatting before everybody's going to be at the stadium getting into their game routines and everything like that. It's almost like Pete said, this doesn't leave this room. You know, he's chewing his gum.

He's got his Air Maxes on. He's wearing his cap. This doesn't leave this room. But if you've been here with Russ, you fucking know what tomorrow means. Yeah. Okay? And if you haven't been here, ask an older guy what it's about. He thinks he's better than you.

He thinks he's better than me. Fucking John Schneider. He thinks he's better than John Schneider. That's right. This doesn't leave the room. But tomorrow, the guy you're playing, remember, they traded you away. Defense alignment and makes a big time stop on a goal line stand. They traded you away.

No offense. They wanted you fucking out of here. This guy is better than. There's a chance that happened. With all the rumors, anonymous sources. Remember, it got ugly there between Team 3 and Team. Now, I like Team Seattle Seahawks. Anonymous source, anonymous source. That gets buried. Russ goes back. We're all friends. Russ

ends up leaving again. More anonymous sources, more anonymous sources. Everything was in the chamber for Pete Carroll, I think, if any of those are true. We don't know if those are true. We're just going off what it looked like last night as they were playing as well. Pete Carroll and Russ show cans after the game. Hey, congrats. Have a good one. See you later. Only those two really know what it's like, what it was like behind closed doors when

Russ was potentially pissed off about the new offense or the offensive line or how things were going, wanting his own office, doing whatever the hell, being whatever guy he wants to be. And maybe Pete Carroll knows that. But yeah, it looked like an emotional win for the Seahawks. And the fans were there. The 12s were there from the very beginning yeah when he jogged out on Monday Night Football kickoff or countdown hey they let him have it that was like an eighth full it's like 4 15 p.m Seattle local time the people that got in there early let them know about it then whenever he came out for the game with the warm-up, which we have the clip, Joe Buck and the boys kind of just let it run

so you could listen to it. Mixed review. You could hear the boos, but there was also cheers when it was at max capacity. In warm-ups, 415 local, a little different story, a little bit more boo. Once we got closer to kickoff, 515 local. That's going to be tough, by the way. It's wild. We appreciate the West Coasters.

Thank you, West Coast. We forgot what you got through. But also, your primetime games are earlier, so you get to kind of have a night after games. For us, we're all kind of battling for the fourth quarter to get through. So there's definitely pros and cons for either side, but we appreciate you showing up in Seattle last night for making that electric environment.

Here was him coming out, leading the Denver Broncos. That's right. Onto this field that I have won a lot on. Here's the reaction. Onto the field. He was greeted with a mixed reaction at best. And here he comes again. So this is normally when they cheer the person on. Yeah. When you're coming on the field, we'll cheer for you while you're playing. We'll boo you. Yes.

I got to experience it with Adam Vinatieri. Adam Vinatieri up in New England. As we're going on the field for warm-ups,'s like thank you mr venetieri for everything you know and vinny this is different obviously quarterback different position than kicker but venetieri did a lot for new england i think and people know who he was up there on the field walking on the field very nice so as soon as that game started they were saying terrible things to him absolutely terrible things and vinny expected it understood it and then on the way were back to being, hey, thank you for everything you've done. Now, Patriots won that game, so that might have been why.

But it was when Peyton came back for the 18-12 game, you know, Peyton versus Andrew Luck in Lucas Oil Stadium, Sunday night football. A lot of things get remembered about that night. One of them for me was how loud that place was for Peyton when he was, after he jogged on the field, was doing a quarterback warm-up, like right before a coin toss kickoff, which is very close to the game. So, you know, you could see how that potentially emotionally fucks with you a little bit or drains you. He took his helmet off, had a full like 15 to 30 seconds of him waving, and the place was going apeshit.

And then as soon as the game started, they were fucked. Like, hey, they were loud when Peyton was on offense. They were celebrating when he was getting sack fumbles, whenever he was getting sacked for safeties. They were going crazy against him. And I think that's kind of what we just expected, and then it wasn't like that at all. There seems to be bad blood up there between Russ and Seattle, Connor.

What's that all about? Because I think even you Boston fucks would cheer for Tom time and time again before the game and then during the game, fuck off Tom. Yeah, before the game, I remember very specifically everyone going nuts for him because Brady actually did the whole run down

the 100 yards, the let's go in the end zone like he did in New England and people were cheering for him. Little nostalgia pop. Little nostalgia pop. People appreciated what he did of course, but then as soon as the game started, like you said, they started booing him from start to finish and it was very loud. I think the only difference with Russ is

Peyton, neck injury, terrible back half of his career, cut. Tom, even though he did get a contract offer, it wasn't that great for him, so he chooses to leave. Russell was like, I don't want to be here anymore. You have to trade me. I feel like that's the only difference

between those situations. He was trying to babyface that whole thing. Remember, Team 3 was the one saying everything. And Team 3 was probably telling Russ, hey, we can get you out of this situation. We'll be the bad guys. You'll be the good guy. Don't worry about it. People won't even know. Seattle was like, nah. hey, we can get you out of this situation. We'll be the bad guys. You'll be the good guy. Don't worry about it. People won't even know. Seattle was like, nah.

We know how teams are. The number right there after team is the one. It's literally team three. You are, right? You're three? So who's telling all these people that the offense line fucking stinks and the offense coordinator is bad and want to get the fuck out of here? Is that you? And that's what Seattle's saying, I think.

That's what their fans are saying. And I would like Seattle Seahawks fans to remember, hey, down the road you might not be able to get a free agent because of this. So hope you're happy. Hope you're happy, Seattle Seahawks. That's what people were saying on the internet last night. Yeah, of course. All the big diehard Russell Wilson fans, which there are many.

And how could there not be? You saw him looking like a goddamn angel walking out of his house to a Rolls Royce. And everything he says publicly is a cliche machine. So you just think, oh, this guy's pure-hearted. Seems to be this way. There's a lot of people on the internet that absolutely love Russell Wilson or are part of the Russell Wilson tribe. And I would not say that we're not part of it because let's ride.

But with that being said, they were all saying, I hope Seattle Seahawks fans are happy that they're displaying their trashiness. And in the future, this is going to affect who wants to become a member of their team. You win games, people want to be on your team. Just as easy as that. I don't know how to change it. You win, people are going to want you. Seattle Seahawks for real.

At Tone Diggs. Last night, emotional. Big Monday night football game. Everybody's juiced and amped. Geno Smith looked like he could do no wrong. There were some plays last night he was making where he was like, God damn, Geno Smith was projected to be this guy. And finally, after a few stops, he has become this guy. On the run, touch, how you doing? Keep it moving. Touchdown. Eyes downfield, on the move, eluding sacks

and dropping it in an absolute bucket. Geno Smith played like this from start to finish. Had a lot of emotional energy, ran some people over, was slinging the pill all over the damn yard. That one he had to keep safety off this guy, Parkinson, who he just has incredible flow and air. Drops it right only in a spot that he could catch it and not catch it. This is the best Geno I think we've seen since West Virginia, right? Yeah, for sure.

Is this what Geno's going to look like with an entire program and organization pushing behind him? Is this what the Seattle Seahawks are this year? DK Metcalf made some plays. Ty made some plays. Geno's doing his thing. What if the Seahawks are for real, Tony? Is that a thing or not? I think it was similar to

last season where they could run the ball. And if you're going to be able to run the ball and last year they stopped the run. Now,ante williams had a decent game last night uh for the broncos but if if you could run the ball and kind of protect gino like that with penny and then when kenneth walker comes back i think they're going to at least be competitive and stay in games now they scored those two touchdowns the first half and they did not score anything in the second half or what just a field goal in the second half or what, just a field goal in the second half. So maybe they figured

Geno out a little bit and going forward that worries you a little bit. But if they can continue to run the ball. I mean, let's just shoot the people straight here. Okay, let's do it. Yeah, sure. Bronco should have covered last night. Yeah, absolutely.

Bronco should have absolutely covered last night. Nathaniel Hack should have. Yeah, you know, fumble and goal on twice. Broncos should have absolutely covered last night. Nathaniel Hackett is going to be questioned for a lot of decisions he was making last night. Running the same exact play on the goal line, on the half-inch line. It being stuffed out twice with the same exact outcome both times. In hindsight, you can judge and make fun of. But both of those things get scored. And both of those are touchdowns. Whole different game.

We cover. We're celebrating today. Because Broncos win cover and over hits. If that takes place. Could it be tough to hit the over whenever you're fumbling on a half inch yard, half inch line twice? I mean, absolutely two times actually on the half. They couldn't even put the fucking

goal or line of scrimmage line basically all the way in there because how close it was. That's one of those ones where if Russell was under center and just falls forward somehow, it's a touchdown. He goes up over top, it's a touchdown. I mean, they were so close, two different occasions, both ending up with fumbles, both going the different direction.

Those are how you win and lose games. If you're going to get those all year, the Seattle Seahawks are going to win. Seattle Seahawks are going to win the Super Bowl. They get that type of stuff. Broncos should have covered, but it just felt like, honestly honestly it was seattle's night was that the football gods telling us something right there on monday night football that's right no let's fly yeah is that them saying hey that the the pony that rode out of seattle into denver was the problem around here and this is just a display from the football gods letting us know publicly like hey this is if you want to judge how the situation went this is the team that is rewarded in it all in this

particular evening i still think the broncos are going to be good i still believe oh yeah they're going to figure it out russell wilson will but some of those balls yeah they looked a little lollipop hey those moon rockets that he normally throws that come down in a dk metcalf and feel like they're look like they're gonna break through metcalf or ty's fucking arms over there for seattle they looked a little bit bottle rockety coming down jerry judy very fast gonna have to work out the timing with him i assume that's a work in progress but the balls did not look the same out of russell wilson doesn't scare me but it didn't look the exact same three that we had seen in the past no definitely not and i think

like to your point you know when you used to see those plays to like lock it and metcalf and stuff like that like he's he's always hitting them in stride always hitting them in stride like maybe it was just kind of the emotions and everything but you know we always talk about brady like his arm just continues to get better and better somehow. And I'm not saying Russ isn't as good, but you keep throwing – you underthrow guys like that. You turn the ball over more. And also, maybe just shit can the running out of shotgun on the one-inch line.

Maybe, like you said, just fucking get Russ under center and let him fall in. I get you just paid him a bunch of money, but he can move. Let's make sure we're punching it in when we get down there. And maybe it's the mallet finger. Maybe that's why they didn't want to have him reach over top. But whatever the case, zero points, one inch total to score on two different drives, and they can't get the job done for whatever reason. Great goal line stands by the Seattle Seahawks.

We are not knocking back. But it's just like in an offensive society that we're in right now you would think they'd be able to find a half of a fucking inch a couple times whenever you're paying somebody 250 some million and you got a brand new offensive guru head coach offense guru head coach and we haven't talked about how they got the ball back for four minutes left and didn't have enough time to get uh closer than a 64 yard okay so let's talk about that new offensive guru head coach that you bring in because all offensive gurus have been doing well as head coaches now new head coaches have performed very well in week one haven't really been any rookie mistakes or game situation fuck ups until last night a conversation certainly began and is continuing i i would assume that

most people are chiming in because peyton Manning is literally watching along live with the team that he currently lives in the city of with the new head coach at the end in a two minute situation and he's saying live on the air for everybody to hear last night live and here on the internet probably get a time out here probably get a time out talk about it maybe we'll talk about this one maybe get one here maybe we'll get one here maybe and maybe we just talk about this one. Maybe get one here. Maybe we'll get one here. Maybe we just talk about it. Got to get one here. And then Shannon Sharp goes, so let me get this straight. They just blew through 30 seconds there to trot out somebody to do the field goal.

Now, if they go for that on fourth and five, if they take a timeout early, save the amount of time, they go for it, they don't get it, then he's the idiot who didn't even send out his kicker for a 64 yard opportunity. And he has a kicker that can hit from 64. Now they call a timeout. They save themselves some time. And you figure that the offensive guru head coach and a $256 million quarterback can figure out a way to get five yards or if they even draw them off, try to draw them off sides before taking the timeout. None of these things happen. So I think that's why it's a question everywhere. Hindsight, once again, is our friend in this.

But Nathaniel Hackett's beginning as a play caller and as a head coach is in question. And I think it all happened on Monday Night Football, and he'll just have to bounce back. But that's life as a fucking head coach in the NFL, I guess. Well, and it's one of the things we talk about, too. You always mention it, and we've talked about it with Chuck. Like, how many of those different things that he probably didn't have to worry about last year when he's just the OC, and who knows how many plays he's actually calling

in Green Bay because LeFleur calls most of them. Like, that's a lot more responsibility on your plate all of a sudden. How about the timeouts for the Neals at the end? Yeah, exactly. Everything he's doing is being scrutinized right now. Joining us now, this is the men's league. Yeah. It us, joining us, joining us now, this is the men's league. Yeah.

It's like when Sean who had people fucking diving at the knees. Fans shouldn't be yelling timeout and your head coach isn't. Like, I know it's Peyton Manning, but what, half of the country

was watching that game like, okay, timeout, talk about timeout. No, I agree completely, but I assume he had a plan. You would think he would have had a plan. Joining us now

is a man who's been in that seat before, had that headset on, had to make those types of decisions. And not only did he do it in a fantastic fashion, he took the Jets to fucking playoffs like every goddamn year. Ever since

he's been gone. Since he's been gone! They haven't won with their action! Yeah. They stink. No offense to them. Offense should be taken, actually. A little bit of offense.

I got a chance to meet this guy since he's been working at ESPN. He's electrifying. He's hilarious. And now, he's here for Dr. fucking Scholes. Hell yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, legend Rex Ryan. Yeah! Hey, what up, Pat?

Rex! It's good to see you, buddy. Coach, it's great to see you. The first thing, though, don't we have to call timeout? Are you kidding me? Everybody in the stadium is wanting to call timeout. Everybody watching at home like, timeout. Coach, timeout.

You got three of these bad boys. Are you kidding me? You got Russell Wilson. It ain't like you have Mark Sanchez. You got Russell Wilson. They paid him $256 million just like a week or two ago. They got the richest owner in all of sports. So I guess that means nothing.

But everybody on earth, there's a fourth and five left here, 50-some seconds left. Because if you go for it and you don't get it, Denver's kneeling it out anyway. So there's really no, you know, Rex, why wouldn't you, I guess? No, 100%. Like, you know, Rex, why wouldn't you, I guess? No, 100%. Like, you've got to be kidding me here. Like, you have to call timeout and move it with your best player,

the one you paid $240 million to. You're right, Pat. You've got to do it. And now, look, this kicker is unusual. I mean, like I say, I understand, you know, milking it down and kicking the field goal and all that. Not from 64 yards. Are you kidding me?

How long was that damn record? You know, 63-yard field goal. That thing lasted for 100 damn years. Tom Dipsley, half-foot guy or whatever, he knocks it through. He still could have used Dr. Schultz. But anyway, he knocked it through. And here's the thing. It just was really strange it was just really strange man

it almost looked like he panicked okay it almost looked like he wasn't prepared for the situation and we're okay what's my call and he froze and I've seen coaches do that before they freeze it in the biggest moments and you're like but as a head coach they pay you for those moments and i i couldn't believe that uh you know what i was watching but again hopefully he'll be a really good coach down the road but man he's going to regret that one yeah i would assume so he's going to look back on it and second guess everything hopefully i mean west virginia's head coach did not second guess any of his decisions after losing a game. That's right. Do it all again. I'll go back and do it the exact same way again. All right. We fucking lost. So let's not do that. But yeah, I think obviously Hackett will look back on this and wonder what if.

But you've been in football forever, literally forever. We read on your Wikipedia that you and your brother said when you're like six years old, we're going to be fucking football coaches. That's just how it's going to be. You love the game. Whenever you get that head coaching role in that opportunity, you the kicker right what's your line do you think he right he was told like hey this is our line and in his head hey i got him to where the fucking kicker told me to be we got to give him a shot like what do you think or do you think it was just a fool i don't i've

never been in this position before what the fuck should i do moment yeah i mean look obviously yeah you you find out the range from the kicker he can kick it from here we got to get to this yard line to have any kind of chance but you have three timeouts it's fourth and five it ain't fourth and a hundred you know it's it's not five seconds left or even 20 seconds left oh yes it is because you let the clock get down so you had no choice but to kick it then. It just totally butchered the thing. And the way, look, the way these guys convert fourth downs now and the way the rules are, like fourth and five is, that's back in the day, fourth and ones.

You know what I mean? It's easy to convert those, a hell of a lot easier than it used to be. And to me, there was no, I mean, I'm going to go down with with my best player the one i'm giving 240 million dollars to and we gave up like three players and three draft picks or whatever it was yeah you gotta you gotta ride with your quarterback and and uh you know unfortunately he never did that so we'll never know that's a tough start obviously for his head coaching career and also Russell Wilson's Denver Broncos let's ride career on the flip side though how about those goal line stands two fumbles same exact play basically half inch line that's something that's momentum a team can ride for the next few weeks Rex oh there's no question and here's the thing I took from number

one phenomenal red zone defense all right last year man I mean the the the seahawks were awful in almost every statistic on defense all right but when you saw these these plays in the in the uh uh you know by the goal line it was unreal i mean two takeaways like that's that's amazing but i tell you what i've got to give a shout out to my my guy geno Smith. All right. Yes. I know he's got a chin like a marshmallow, but Geno Smith came out on fire in that first half. You know he did. He played his tail off, and I think he's going to ride that momentum. Look, I started him for two years. He hadn't really had the opportunity to go since. He's been on the bench behind some really good quarterbacks. And I'm excited for Geno to finally get this opportunity again,

and hopefully he'll make the most of it. I think he will. It seemed like he started out in a great fashion, and the whole team's around him, obviously sitting behind Eli and sitting behind Russell. He's probably a completely different player. What do you think Pete Carroll told those boys the night before? Now, I know you're a big let's go get a fucking snack guy.

Damn right. Do you think Pete let them know, like, hey, all the night before. Now, I know you're a big let's go get a fucking snack guy. Damn right. Do you think Pete let them know, like, hey, all the rumors you've heard, if you weren't here last year, ask somebody who was. Russ thinks he's better than everybody in here. Do you think Pete used that type of stuff? I don't know if you know Pete that well. It felt like all of Seattle wanted last night pretty bad from the beginning all the way to the end, Rex.

Yeah, there is no doubt. I don't know if he would go out and signal, you know, just take out, you know, the Russell Wilson, put it on him. I think he would use it more as a team. Like, look, everybody wants to see Russell Wilson and his new Denver Bronco team, this superstar team, against us. We're just the afterthought here. Oh, yeah? We're getting ready to beat the hell out of this superstar team against us. We're just the afterthought here. Oh, yeah? We're getting ready to beat the hell out of this football team. And I think that's how they played.

They were inspired. You're right. They did want to have Geno Smith back. And look at the fan base, man. All of them chanting, Geno, Geno. It's like, good for you, man. That was great to see. And the great thing about, hey, oh, Russell deserved a lot better.

Hell no, you're with another team now, man. You know, so I don't blame the fans for having at it. And it was kind of a fun thing. But I know, I mean, Pete Carroll, you know darn well he was using the old, you know, hey, disrespect to us completely and to our quarterback and everybody else, and he certainly used that. Okay, we're talking to Rex Ryan, obviously, absolute legend, just chatted about Monday Night Football and Russell Wilson getting booed, jogging on for warm-ups in the Monday Night Football countdown on ESPN

and being booed throughout the entire evening. They should have covered untimely turnovers that the Seattle Seahawks defense force changes the entire evening. I want to ask about a couple other NFL teams before we dive into this Dr. Scholl's partnership because, hey, this is brilliant. This, yeah, it is. We'll get into it. We'll get into it.

We'll get into it. How do you feel about the Buffalo Bills bills a team you know very well obviously josh allen's like a prototype it feels like but that team has dogs everywhere number one in all sports books they go out to la steamroll what do you like about that team rex haven't really got a chance to hear your take on the whole squad yeah hey pat everything about that team like this isn't the team that i had ain't no way in hell like they're in the single player on it you know all those type of things and we're battling eight and eight just scrapping to get to 500 this team right here is is built to to go the distance and number one how you gonna do it well you have to have a franchise quarterback we all know that well if you're drafting right now i'm not sure you take anybody over Josh Allen.

You know, he's definitely in the top three if he ain't number one with Patrick Mahomes and that Herbert kid. But, I mean, he's absolutely phenomenal. You look at the weapons they have around him. I mean, the receiving core, Stephon Diggs was a great move they did. But the thing that I'm most impressed with is their defense. And they took an area of weakness. They couldn't stop anybody from running the ball on them last year. So what do they do?

They bring in, they add, settle, they get the Phillips back, and that big Jordan Phillips, a great player for Buffalo. He can't play for anybody else, but he is lights out for Buffalo. And then you also bring in Von Miller. Oh, by the way. Oh, he's done. Oh, yeah. Oh, really?

He's done? All he's going to do is rush the passer on third down and in the fourth quarter and in two-minute situations? Good luck. He's a closer. That's exactly what you need to do to win in this league. You've got to be able to rush the passer in the fourth quarter of games. That's what they fixed.

They fixed the run defense. Look, they were number one in the league last year in defense. Well, how are they going to do now? They're even better in that. Their depth is incredible. That defense-aligned depth, it reminded me of the old Niners back in the Bill Walsh days when he had 10 defense alignment dress for games when nobody else was having five or six dress. He had 10.

Why? Because you've got to – he was a strange mentor of mine, but Bill Walsh actually was, and he always said, you've got to be able to rush the passer in the fourth quarter. So you need pass rushers. Well, Buffalo's got it. And I tell you what, the only question I think they had going in was how good the new

offensive coordinator was going to be, Dorsey. He's good. He might be better than the other guys. They just replaced, so that looked pretty damn good to me. So yeah, they were absolutely impressive. We'll talk to Jordan Poyer in about

45 minutes here. Can't wait to talk to him. Oh my God, both those they were absolutely impressive. We'll talk to Jordan Poyer in about 45 minutes here. Can't wait to chat. Oh, my God. Both those safeties, man. No Pro Bowlers last year. Isn't that crazy? On that defense, none. Yeah, the number one defense in the league and no Pro Bowlers.

They should have put Leslie Frazier in there if that's the case. Hey, Leslie, you know what? You're the defensive coordinator. You're the number one defense. You had no players. You're doing it with no players at all. You go to the damn Pro Bowl and represent this team. But, yeah, no, players are fantastic.

You take both those things, you stick them in the Pro Bowl. Those guys are awesome. But I think they're not going to be able to play in it anyway because they're going to be going to the Super Bowl this year. I think we all think that, and that's kind of a scary thing, that everybody is in agreement on something in the NFL because we all know the NFL is full of fuckery. But that team, they have the mindset, too.

Like, we haven't won shit. And I think it's because that no pro bowlers. Josh Allen, although he is a guy, a superstar now, he started out with a lot of people bashing him. So that'll be with him forever, I think. Like, Stephon Diggs was on here last week. He said, you couldn't even tell that we're the fucking odds on favorite anymore. them so that'll be with him forever i think like stefan diggs was over here last week he said you couldn't even tell that we're the fucking odds on favorite anymore like that that's the mentality

that you want and von miller's hearing it too and he could be the first guy to go three different teams and win i mean it's i think we're all in agreement rex and i'm pumped to watch this motherfucker they go let's talk about another team your name has ties to obviously the philadelphia eagles with your dad and whenever you went and did the show live for espn in philly it was a cool moment watching you do the chanting alongside of them and everything that team they seem to have dogs rex i like this mentality of these younger coaches almost like hey we need dudes at spots do you kind of enjoy this new evolution of coaching and team building strategy especially in especially in Philadelphia with what they're looking for. Yeah, no, I still like the old guys.

I'm still waiting for that phone call, Pat, you know, to come back in. But, no, I absolutely do. And, you know, my son, you know, he's coaching now six years in the NFL. Hopefully he'll be one of these new young cats that get promoted down the road. Because you're almost like, where did this guy come from? Well, when you know Sirianni was with the charts for all those years and he's done a hell of a job. He's got a lot of young coaches on his staff.

And it's an exciting brand of football. And the thing I like most about what Nick Sirianni did was he took what his quarterback, what his strengths are, and he utilized them. He lets that quarterback be himself. And, hey, look, you're a terrific runner. Take off, man. You feel it? Take off.

You don't have to sit in a pocket all damn day. And Jalen Hurts is a dang good football player. People forget, you know, Tua did beat out Jalen Hurts, but only after the fact Jalen Hurts was a two-time Southeast Conference Offensive Player of the Year. Like, he's pretty damn good. Could have won the Heisman at Oklahoma. So, you know, he lets them do his thing.

And I think they're an exciting team. They've got a big, strong offensive line and, you know, a good defense. But I will say this. They were challenged last week. Late, right? Late? Yeah, late. And Detroit ran the hell out of the football.

And so I'm like, holy cow, maybe Detroit's going to be good too. So we'll see. What do you think about the change of the game here? Now, you just talked about running the ball and being damn good on the ground. How do you feel about the evolution of football? You're an old school guy. Now, I'm not saying you're an old school guy because you've been around a long time. It just feels like

you're with the greats whenever the conversation happens. The Ryan family is like one of the staples of football. I'm happy to hear your son, third generation. That's awesome. Congratulations, but what do you think about the evolution of football right now? It's obviously for science and for safety, it's wide open.

It affects defensive football the most, which we know you absolutely love yeah it does but i i still think it's for the betterment of our game and you know protecting our players this game is about our players and that's what everybody loves to watch and let's protect them we're still having the greatest game it is like look this is one of the only sports that takes courage to play. And courage to me is not you're crazy. No, courage is you're scared, but you go anyway. Like, that's football, man. Like, it's tough.

It is a physical-ass game. And you just got to love it. But I love the new game. And, look, it's still 11-on-11. You can still get after the quarterback. You can still knock the hell out of people. You just can't hit them in the head anymore. Which, back in the day, used to be quite a weapon.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's true. We have A.J. Hawk on here, you know, every day. Yeah. And he doesn't, like, it has taken him a little bit here to change the name, like, to helmet. He used to to say it was a weapon like that was literally what he taught yeah you're that ride though you get that big

heavy one you get one of those lighter ones you can't really hit anybody with you get that heavy one you're trying to yeah it's a weapon for the jaw not hitting with my head what am i doing now the game is just and it's been pretty quick like 15 years on us the next generation though of players is in, and they understand. They get it. Like these Guardian caps, Coach, did you see those? Dude, I know they look horrible, but here's the great thing, Pat. I went to a – my kid was playing at Clemson.

I went there, and they all had them. And so I called the NFL and said, hey, should we put these things on our guys for training camp? And of course, they looked at me and anything I suggested, they're like, oh, Rex Ryan's calling? What? Get that out of here. No, we ain't doing that shit. Boom. Now we're all doing it. So good for them,

man. Prevent some of those concussions and things like that. It's great. Keep our guys healthy. I think the game is growing still somehow, 103 years into this or whatever it is and i mean 25.1 million average viewers on that tampa cowboys game and that game was boring boring that was a boring game out there how do you feel about tom coming back greatest of all time i assume everybody's in agreement of that him coming back what do you? Do you think it's going to change anything down in Tampa? You think they can go on a run?

I think they can go on a run, but, I mean, I think it's going to be based on good, you know, like Godwin. If he gets back healthy, remember he had the hamstring. Because I looked out there, I'm like, who the hell is he throwing to? You know, Mike Evans is a great player, but they had nobody else really. So, I think as long as he comes back healthy, they'll still have a shot. You like Tom? You know, you've been away from the game here for a little bit.

And you just said you'd go back and be a head coach again. Let's make that happen. Let's make that happen. Coaches are getting fired at a lot more alarming rate nowadays because you can't just, like, be okay with losing because social media and everything. Let's get Rex back in the league. There you go, Pat.

Hey, when you left the game, when you left the game, was it hard? Was it difficult? I think guys that are lifers, it becomes much more difficult coaching, playing. And I think Tom experienced that for 40 days. He was like almost lost. It feels like it sounds like it. Yeah, it really is. Because when you are a football lifer, it really is. But the one thing about and Pat, you know, when we went into this media deal i i got up with you know espn and doing that sunday countdown show so you still have your fix and the fact you know i have a son that now going is six year in the nfl and and my brother so i'm still connected that way but yeah it's you miss the competition man you miss the competition, man. You miss the locker room. You miss all that.

But I'll be honest. It's funny. I never knew there would be life after football, but I enjoy what I'm doing right now. And I'm not getting back in this league. Obviously, you go anywhere to be a head coach. But I'm not going to jump in to be a coordinator or whatever unless it was, you know, they had to pay me a ton of money. That would be the only way you get back. But, but I like what I'm doing. And, and Pat, let's not, let's not forget. One of the things I'm doing is I'm a partner with Dr. Schultz.

Oh, hell yeah. Hey, Rex, this is brilliant. And these are things that you can do now that you're in the media space and everybody sees how awesome you are obviously we knew from hard knocks in your press conferences how electrifying you were but in the media i mean i feel like getting to know you as a person for the conversations off air i came back and told the boys i'm like hey rex is one of the coolest motherfuckers of all time and then i think i talked to you at that point about getting on social i'm like rex you got to get on social i'm like the first wave of people that are going to tweet you, you're going to have to get through that. Like, you're going to have to get through the first wave.

But all they're going to attack you for is what you've embraced fully. This is brilliant. Now, I know athlete's foot is a problem that people don't like to talk about. Having your foot be irritated or uncomfortable is something nobody likes to chat about. So Dr. Scholz and Rex Ryan have come together to create a new instant cool athlete treatment spray and wipes not only do they have this incredible product they're also teaming up

with the host of tocs my feet are killing me dr brad schaefer to really address and promote like good feet health i think this is a it's great for you, obviously. The tie-in is amazing. How did this come together, and how pumped are you about this? I assume it's pretty exciting. Yeah, I mean, it's cool. But when they first called, Pat, I'm like, yeah, right. Like somebody's busting my chops here.

You know what I mean? Like, no, we got this great product, and they actually sent it to me. And I'm like, all right. And anybody's had athletes, but you know it's like, oh, hell, that burns like hell. This stuff I spray, I'm like, damn, this thing's pretty good. I'm like, oh, I'm in. I'm in. Like, we're going to do this.

And look, it's funny, Pat, because I spent 30 years coaching or whatever. But in some circles, I'm known as that. That's the coach that has the foot fetish or whatever. I'm like, yep, that's me, mother. You came right at me. I'm guilty. Look, my wife is gorgeous. She's got gorgeous feet.

But when Dr. Scholl was called, I'm like, oh, my God, this is hilarious. They're choosing me. But they're explaining why. They're like, Rex, two things. They said, well, I was uniquely qualified to do it. And I'm like, yes, I can do this, man. me but they're like explaining why they're like correct you know two things we you know and they said well you know i was uniquely qualified to do it and i'm like yes i can do this man because i'm an expert in in football and i'm an expert in feet so what the hell i'm gonna do it and and i flat out own it and and you know it's uh i remember pat going into a stadium we're going in and play

new england and all that stuff came out. I remember Wes Welker and these butts of my chops, everything else. And I come out, and they all got these things out, posters on something on the feet and all that type of jazz. And I'm like, oh, great. This is fantastic. And some fan yells, hey, coach, hey, coach, what do you think of my girlfriend's feet? And I'm like, man, I'm just going to ignore it. And I'm like, no, look over there.

I glance over. I'm like, they look pretty good. You know, doing all right. But either way, it's just one of those things. But when Dr. Scholl's called, I'm like, here it is. Like, here's the funny thing. Pat, it's the number one, you know, Dr. Scholl's the best of the best, the best foot product company, you know, in the world. And they and the the the best foot product company you know in

the world and they're like asking me to do it i'm like okay dude you know let's go for it but coach yeah it's kind of a cool thing coach they're the best foot you know company you are the best foot spokesperson in the history of anything and i i love the fact that you're owning it completely i like that the new eng England fans gave it to you because that's what sports are. I mean, that's what it's supposed to be. But I do wish you would have looked at that lady's feet and said, fucking busted ass.

It would have been awesome. I would have. If they were jacked up, I would have said it, but I'm like, man, they look pretty good. They're clearly not as good as my wife's feet, but man, they're pretty good. Key features of the new... You're the best, by the way. Your teeth look amazing, too.

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You can literally head to drschulz.com right now or purchase it anywhere dr schulz instant cool athletes foot treatments are available hey you're the man thank you for everything pat you're the man and and thank you so much for having me on there man am i glad you read that stuff off because you know all i know is this product is outstanding and thank you for getting it out there for me ladies and gentlemen rex ryer is all the way back got a chance to chat about the monday night football matchup between the denver broncos and the seattle seahawks that saw russell wilson return to his home that we've seen

him in the nfl for his entire career. He got booed going onto the field for warm-ups and going onto the field for the games. And he got an L on the way out of Seattle. But he was wearing a tuxedo and threw for 340 yards and a touchdown. So what does that mean going forward about the Denver Broncos? We do not know. We do know that the Seattle Seahawks defense was opportunistic. A couple goal line stands, two turnovers in that.

Three points was all that was had by the Denver Broncos in three trips inside the Seattle Seahawks five. That was obviously the turn of the tide. And also, Geno Smith was lights out. What an absolute stallion of a game by him and performance by him. And it felt like all of Seattle wanted that one,

which had to feel good for Pete Carroll, John Schneider, and everybody in the Seahawks universe. The Talks at Table is here at Ty Schmidt at Boston Corner. One half of the hammer. God! Cowboys' Tony Diggs is here. We talked to Rex Ryan in the last hour.

He loves feet. Yes, he does. He has teamed up with Dr. Schultz, who also loves feet. Yes, he does. To take care of a problem that everybody potentially has at one point or another in their life. Athlete's foot or a little bit of an infection in between your toes. The discomfort, the burn,

the itch is no fun. Dr. Schultz took care of that with Rex Ryan. I love that those two came together for a marketing opportunity. Dr. Schultz saw everything that was happening and instead of saying, we don't want to talk to this guy, instead they said give us this guy.

That's our guy. Give us the football expert. Give us the foot expert. Give us the athlete expert. And he can be the guy that can represent our brand new instant cool athlete foot solution. Sounds awesome. Match made in heaven. Shout out to Dr. Solis for that.

Joining us now is a man who I know loved that. Oh, yeah. A man who won know loved that. Oh, yeah. A man who won a college football national championship, a Super Bowl championship, a Ryder Cup championship. He is a quarterback on the field when he was playing middle linebacker and tackling people with his forehead on every single play, so much so he became the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers. Now he's a two-time two-time covet 19 survivor ladies and

gentlemen aj hall aj how you doing pa i'm doing great i think what people some young people may have forgotten is wes welker was what he was held out of the first half of a game because of his comments yep and his deadpan delivery when he was making comments about rex ryan this whole foot situation i completely forgot about him being suspended for a half by Bill Belichick. But in a weekly press conference going into a Jets game, he basically did a whole, we're going to put our best foot forward. Whenever you're talking about getting out of bed and putting two feet on the ground, you're going to do this.

Because shortly before that, it came out that Rex Ryan and his wife are very active participants in the foot fetish community that's right they're producers they're editors they're actors they're a part of the whole thing and obviously instead of just you know being embarrassed by it Rex Ryan now has chosen to be like yeah fuck off there's a lot of people probably in that community not that I know but Rex is one of them and I assume there's others that just haven't told me because of the stigma that is potentially alongside of it. So shout out to Dr. Schultz and Rex Ryan in this hour, six minutes. We'll be talking to Jordan Poyer. Can't wait to chat with him. AJ, we're talking to you right now

about last night's Monday night football game. Did you get a chance to watch the entire thing? Was it the Manning cast? Was it Joe Buck and Troy? And how did you feel about how the game went, AJ? It was nice, actually. I got to watch the whole thing. I watched Joe and Troy, and then I went back, and I watched the best of Peyton and Eli and their whole situation this morning on YouTube,

which they're great, man. Honestly, I love both those guys together. And their guests, they're awesome. But Joe and Troy, too, I feel like they knocked it out of the park. Yeah, I like Joe and Troy. I like that the telestrator wasn't working and instead of just calling it quits,

Troy goes, well, telestrator ain't working. So he's old. The people he used to work with, because that's somebody's job. Okay? Yeah, probably a couple people's. Well, yeah, you're right. Probably a couple people's. Big old crew, Monday Night Football, they got about 80 people on that crew solely focus on this making sure this is plugged in you're solely focused on this make

sure this is happening it's almost we don't do anything like that at all and i don't think it's an efficient way to do things at all but allegedly it's the way to get the best things done because you have so many eyes on so many little details and the little things lead to the big thing so if you take care of every little thing, you'll take care of the big thing. Sometimes it's difficult in those big productions though to get a hold

of the right fucking person that you need just for something. Like, hey, what about, oh, that's, yeah, you gotta go. Not me. Well, you're doing the.

No, it's completely different. No, you're doing the. No, I'm doing the other thing. Not today. I'm not doing that. Okay, well, if you were just to happen to be doing the.

I wouldn't know. I would have no idea. Don't ask me. right where is the i don't know don't stop fucking asking me questions there's a chance that could happen now i'm not talking about in my experience with tv that actually happened at a couple of the theaters that we did shows at because the person that controls the lights for the house doesn't control the lights for the stage let alone potentially asking the person that needs to move the drapes who that person that's all they needed they needed 20 that person needed 20 they were not around for the exact time that we needed them to do the thing so that was on us not on them and we did apologize to them for that you know we

apologize that we rented this theater that we were doing this show and we were being forced to use you as a worker and that at the exact time that you wanted to go smoke your 50th cigarette that we actually need you just to move that thing because we could have done it ourselves but we were told we're literally not allowed to do it don't touch it don't fucking touch it okay made the show much worse but we we are sorry that we did that happen to us but in the tv thing there's experts for everything and that's why we just got Zito. That's right. Hey,

Zito, how can we get this thing to be over there? Right? Well, I don't think, no, yeah. Zito at first we'll go,

I don't know. And I'm like, well, there has to be a way. And then it's like, all right, here we go. So in theory,

there's always a, in theory, we could connect. I'm going to need like four or five wires. we could we get them yeah yeah all right let's do it all right let's do it and then whenever those big networks that have all those experts for every little thing all those people have to chat with zito and they have to prove how smart they are right in every conversation that they have but this most recent time with espn has not been like that at all by the way this most recent time with espn it has been awesome it has been very cool but i'm not talking about jesse has been i'm talking about every network we have ever worked

with for anything ever and we are a part of it there's always i'm smarter than you you're an idiot and zito has to talk to every single person so i'd assume the telestrator people heard about it and the blame was on somebody else. Yeah, for sure. But it probably was somebody else's fault. But I think Troy and Joe did well. I think they did well. Picked up right where they left off.

They let it breathe at the beginning, and the game was a good one. I mean, I didn't expect that game to go that way at all. We all picked the Broncos. Obviously, the Seahawks saw that. They heard about it. They probably used that as motivation. But that didn't go anywhere near the way I thought it was going to.

Do you know Hackett as a person? He's getting killed right now, AJ. I don't know him at all. I've never met him. I just know how highly all the Packers guys speak of Hackett. They love the dude. You calling time out? Think that goodwill is still there with everybody?

I don't know about with the Broncos fans. I don't know if the Packers players loving them are going to go over. Does everybody just not like Russ out there in Seattle? Nobody likes him or what? No, I saw some people cheering. You saw there was Broncos. I'm talking just like everything online and everything going on. Was this something known before the game, all of this weird animosity?

So there's those anonymous sources. Remember two years ago when he had allegedly asked for a trade and Team 3 was upset about the offensive line, the way the offense was running. And also, if they were to be traded, not that they're asking to be traded, they would go to Miami, Chicago, Denver, I guess, and New York they would go to. Not that they're asking for a trade, but if they were to, those would be the city. So then no deal was to be had. But during that entire process, there was anonymous Team 3 sources.

And then remember, there was anonymous sources from Pete Carroll's camp too saying, Russ was impossible to fucking deal with, basically, is what they said. And then it all got smashed because either a deal couldn't be made or they decided to go back together. And at that press conference, they go, we love each other. Their heads pop in. It's like the Brady Bunch. And then a year later now, out the door, gone.

So we have to assume that some of that was real. There was a Sports Illustrated article, I think, last week about a bunch of shit that came out behind the scenes. About how Rustin liked Schneider, allegedly. So, yeah, I think it was ugly. I did not know everybody fucking hated him, though. I had no idea. Yeah, you see him kind of wandering around the field after the game, too, trying to find some dudes.

Like, that was weird. Yeah, he found a couple guys. But, hey. DK sent, you know, the jersey deal and all that. But, yeah, it was awkward, I feel like. Yeah, him and Pete had a handshake. Him and Gino had a handshake. He is a smaller quarterback, though, and those cameras.

Yeah, they weren't doing him justice. I didn't know how he could see anything, to be honest. I don't even know how you – this's never been my life so he's looking right i've never had to figure it out yeah like following around for on the jumbo i mean about the start too when he was leading him out of the tunnel like just the way it was it was like oh jesus christ he looks like he's five four yeah russell russell shrink six inches before he signed with a bunch of dogs on that team bunch of dogs on that team. A bunch of dogs on that team. Joining us now is a man who is on a team of absolute dogs.

Offense, defense, special teams, quarterback, running back, safety. Doesn't matter what the position, they got dudes. Zero pro bowlers on the defense side of the ball. Number one defense in the league. You tell us how that works. Interesting. Chip on the shoulder is huge. Interception already had by this man.

Ladies and gentlemen, safety for the Buffalo Bills, Jordan Poyer. Hey! What's up, boys? How you doing, man? How you doing? It's good to see you guys. Dude, great to see you. How are you doing, man?

I'm good, man. Hey, congrats again. I think I said it last year, but congrats again on all your success, bro. I'm always reading about your stuff on Twitter, man. Congrats again on all you guys, really. You guys are killing the game. Man, congrats to you on all your success, man. And you and all your guys.

All your guys, by the way. Congrats on all the success. Hey, we appreciate the hell out of you, man. We love you. You look amazing. Hey, you look like a model right now. Hey, you look like a model right now. Yeah, you look like a model right now. Yeah. Hey, life's good over there, huh?

On Thursday night, I will say, okay, because friend of the program, we all picked against you. Okay? We all did. I picked you to go to the Super Bowl. Picked you to go to the Super Bowl. Everybody needs to relax. But opening night, I picked against you because we thought the rookie corner on that defense was potentially going to be a problem we didn't know how the you know the

rams quarterback said he felt better than he's ever felt in his life matthew stafford so we all picked against you then while we were watching it we all had the same thoughts in our group text what will we do what have we done what are we even thinking about going into that game you guys seem to pick up right where you left off last season. Is that how it feels inside the building? Oh, for sure. No, we were ready to play. I mean, we understand we've got a good football team.

We've got the best quarterback in the game, the best pass rusher in the game. And so, you know, when it comes to us on the back end, you know, that makes it easy for us when you've got a front four. We didn't blitz one time. We've got four guys getting after the quarterback. We ended up getting seven sacks. I mean's that's what you want on the back end is we get to back to go back there and just kind of cherry pick and just wait for the ball to kind of come to us so um you know we it's a fun group of guys to be on uh it's a fun group of guys to play

with and we work extremely hard obviously you know we've been building this thing since 2017 um and we're you know right in our window right now we just want to continue taking one day at a time, man. Titans lost yesterday, so we know they're going to be hungry coming in next week. It's a week-to-week league, so we've got to continue to prepare well. Yeah, we had a great game on Thursday, but that don't mean shit coming into next week. You know what I mean? So you guys have played long enough to understand that, but we do got a good football team. Yeah, I'd say.

You mentioned your defense didn't blitz one time in that whole game. So you're getting four-man pressure that much, and you're turning the ball over three times and getting seven sacks. How does it feel, I guess, for your defense? You're never satisfied, always on to the next one. But you guys had a dominant performance. Yeah, I mean, like I said, you just want to continue to build off of that. I mean, any time you can rush with four and get to the quarterback,

I think that's the recipe to win the game any day of the week. So our jobs on the back end, we were just limiting their explosive plays. We understand that Stafford liked to take shots down the field. We were just trying to limit their explosive plays, get them to blink for a half a second to get Vaughn, Jordan, Greg, just an extra second just to get there, extra half a second just to get there. And, you know, credit to Frazier and obviously Sean

for putting together a hell of a game plan. And we just went out there and executed it. We all know week one to week 17, hell, week one to week five is going to be vastly different. But where are you guys going to change? It's just got to get tighter, hone in on things. What is McDermott's message to you guys this week? You know, we always talk about Kaizen. It's just continuous growth. That's the board he always puts up every single day. Continuous growth. You never want to be satisfied with your performance and you just want to keep building. We didn't play a perfect game at all. Obviously, you want to strive for it.

Yeah, you guys stunk, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We saw that. What the hell? I'm saying there's stuff you can get better at. You know what I mean? There's stuff that you can get better at and that you have to get better at because everybody's watching tape week in and week out and there's always stuff that you can continue to get better at. And know what I mean? There's stuff that you can get better at and that you have to get better at because everybody's watching tape week in and week out

and there's always stuff that you can continue to get better at. And that's what we got to do. You know, just a Kaizen continuous growth. And that's what Sean has been preaching. I don't know. Kaizen? What are you saying?

Yeah, it's Kaizen. K-A-I-Z-E-N. Honestly, I never heard of it until I heard it until Sean, you know, in the meeting. Honestly, it just means continuous growth. He's got a board, and he's got a line going across the board, and there's squiggly lines going through the straight line.

You want to stay on the straight line, and you don't want to dip. You don't want to go high. Don't get on the roller coaster. Don't get on the roller coaster. Edge and flush. Same within the game, same within the season. It's a compound of two Japanese words. Oh, you're talking about Kaizen.

Yeah. Of course. Oh, I didn't know what you were saying. Obviously, I didn't... Is that my fault? Is that my fault? Yeah, I mean, I'd heard that word before for sure. That's a great word, it sounds like.

Oh, yeah. You're on track, okay? Let's talk about Kaizen here real quick with you. You're on track right now to have 17 interceptions this year. Hell yeah. Okay? Big year. 17.

You're on pace for 17. Now, if you don't, it'll be a letdown for everybody. But whenever you make a play like this, bam, give me that. Big dive, big play, do your thing. Fourth quarter, ice the game basically here. And all the team celebrates, do your dance, do your dance. When you make a play like that, does it make you feel good? Like, yeah, I got hands still.

You know, like, is there any of that? I got hands. I got hands. Of course, of course. I'm top three on our team for sure. No, of course. Of course you are. Yeah, you're proving it.

But, no, I mean, that's why you play the game. You know, that's why you love the game. It's those moments right there. You know, you work extremely hard throughout the week in the offseason. And then to get rewarded, you know, to make plays in the game. And that feeling right there, that's why we all love the game. That's why we all play the game. Obviously, to win, too.

But there's nothing, there's no better feeling than making a play, a football play in a national football game, especially a big play like that, you know. You guys run to the end zone, celebration pick? Is that what you guys did? I don't know. That just became a thing, right? I don't know when that started, but everybody, now I'm tired. When somebody else gets a pick, everybody wants

to run down to the end zone. I'm like, dang, man. We go to this one? Long way to go. This one looks closer. 12 plays, holy cow. Hey, you're getting old, man. And I liked you chatting about this team being together since 2017. Like, we're in it right now.

This is the expectation. I can't wait to watch you guys continue to grow somehow. Ty Schmidt, your question for Jordan Poyer. Jordan, every time you come on here, you talk about you and Micah's relationship and how you guys kind of play on a string. You've been playing together so long that you kind of, you know, it's like the left hand knows what the right hand's doing and I know you talk about Kaizen and continuous growth but like with him how do you guys get better together as a unit when you have so much chemistry

already like is there even anything you guys can do to continually get better together out there honestly it's really just communication um it's really just being able to get lined up and then executing the defense that's called you know and it when when all comes down to you get you get a call right and everybody's got to be on the same page for that call to be executed and so mike and i's job is you know we're watching film throughout the week to make sure that we are making the correct calls because then once you make the call now it's just playing football now once you're lined up now you're just playing football trusting your instincts you know trusting your ability and play football but you get a call you know offenses come out in a million different formations you got

to be able to you know get the call quick you got to be able to recognize formation and make your checks and so a lot of it is throughout the week him and i just preparing throughout the week to make sure that our back seven is all on the same page it's not just mike and i it's you know our whole back seven we're always watching film together just because if back seven is all on the same page. It's not just Mike and I. It's, you know, our whole back seven. We're all always watching film together. Just because if one man isn't on the same page, it jeopardizes the entire defense. And so that's what we take pride in. We want to make sure that each and every down, that we're all on the same page. Even if we always say if we're all right or if we're all wrong, we're right.

You know, even if, you know, we're supposed to be Rob and we go Lee, you know, if we're all playing the same defense, we're all right. So Rob Lee, Rob Lee, we got a mat going in there. What's going on? I'm talking ball in my head real quick. Yeah, it was cool. I felt like I was in a huddle. Hey, if we're all wrong, we're all right.

If we're all wrong, we're all right. Yeah, you got it right. AJ, your question. Jordan, how much that uh communication is pre-snap i was watching the game last night i was watching the corner like we had some cut splits i watched the corner trying to signal the other corner on the other side it just got me thinking like yeah like when you play with guys long enough you start recognizing that in the pre-snap communication that's something i was that got me excited like i was pumped because you could see what's going on your preparation oh here we go this is what we talked about all week and then you communicate and then when you execute it feels great and the confidence right and the confidence confidence confidence too so I mean for example you you come out the plays over we're looking at sideline first

thing we're trying to find is the personnel you know what personnel they come out and they come out on 12 they come out 11 and then from there you can kind of you can kind of break it down to certain formations that you're going to see you obviously already know the calls that you're going to be running out of 11 or 12 so you get a 12 personnel you know the top three calls that phrase is going to call out of that 11 so we're in the huddle you're talking to michael like hey 12 personnel you know they can come out slot they come out pro this is what we're doing if if we're this this is what we're doing after that all while they're in the huddle so then now they break the huddle boom we're already getting If we're this, this is what we're doing. If they're that, all while they're in the huddle. So then now they break the huddle. Boom.

We're already getting where we know the spots we got to get to. We know the checks that we got to make, you know, cause you can always break it down. It's, you can always break it down just based off of the personnel. You know, the personnel,

there's only certain formations that they can come out in. And then, then you got to make the checks from there. What has, is that coach Frazier? Like what, can you talk about what he has done with that D, what he does on a daily basis, and what style of coach he is?

Because it sounds like y'all motherfuckers are prepared. Yo, we're prepared for sure. I mean, him and Sean do a hell of a, I mean, not just them two, the whole defensive coach staff do a hell of a job of getting us prepared, getting us understanding how offenses are trying to attack, you know, us specifically, you know, based off of what we do. And so, you know, they could go out there one week and the defense is, you know, maybe they're blitzing a lot more than we would have. So maybe we don't watch that tape.

We watch the tape from a game where, you know, it's a similar defense. This is how they attack. Ah, gotcha. This is a style of play that they did with that style of defense, and it's kind of similar. So we're able to get kind of a feel of how they attack. We run a 4-3, how they attack a 4-3, or vice versa. So it is a lot and confidence is another thing that he continues to give us. Just obviously just first of all for myself, coming into 2017, the confidence that he's given me to be able to play in this system, to be able to be a leader in this system,

and to trust me in this system, and to trust me in this system. And I take pride in that, and so does Micah, and so do a lot of guys on this defense. And so, you know, when we're out there film setting throughout the week, you know, we're focusing, we're honed in and locked in with whatever Fraze has got to say because, you know, Fraze played the game, you know, for a very good football team back in the day now. So he knows what he's talking about.

He knows how to get us in the right spots to help us make plays on the right spots to make help us make plays on the football yeah you got the c on the chest too man that's a big fucking deal you know what i mean yeah hey you're you've come full circle as a human i assume you realize that on a day-to-day basis like fully focused it's one day at a time you know we're always trying to get better it was one at a time but you know i love it i love where i'm at right now i just want to keep getting better kaizen that's it i can't wait to drop that conversation like you said like three times right and every time i immediately was like whoa context he said he said a word he said i didn't know i thought it was like k y like yeah kill like an acronym yeah i thought i thought that's what was happening because Ibraflux's defense

in Chicago is going to be hard hitting, intensity, smart football, and turnovers or something like that. Hits. I just said the HIST method. And I know coaches love those types

of things. So whenever you say Kaizen, I'm like, I'm trying to figure out what McDermott's saying. Turns out it's an actual word we just never fucking heard of because we're so dumb. So that is kind of how we live. Connor, your question. Remember, you do know this because you know the show. Diehard Patriot fan, Connor, with a question. Yeah, that's right.

We won't talk about that. I would like to talk about those when you're mentioning confidence and everything. Does it help that you know that the guy that you practice against is better than every single quarterback that you're going to play on Sundays? Does that give you more confidence too that maybe you guys practice and Josh Allen has a great day, but you know that the things that he can do, not everybody can, and a lot of the times that helps you out when the game comes?

Yeah, you could say that. Like I said, he's the best quarterback in the game, but all quarterbacks and all offenses they present different different challenges. Right, yeah. Josh is going to get back there.

Josh is going to get back there. He's got an arm. He can throw it 80 yards or he can run it and he can run you over. Certain quarterbacks and other quarterbacks are going to present different you know Tannehill he's going to come out there they're going to run the ball run the ball run the ball he's going to boot it and he's going to try to hit his hit his receivers inside the numbers or down the field you know and so different challenges throughout the week but definitely Josh prepares us you know you know

especially in the back end you know he's launching the ball down the field and having uh giving us ability to track the ball down the field nobody can us the ability to track the ball down the field. Nobody can throw the ball as far as him. And so he definitely gives us different looks in different ways that you definitely will not see on the field. But I would say, you know, different teams present different challenges throughout the week. One challenge that teams are going to have whenever they're facing Josh Allen, and I don't know if you have this challenge in practice or not. If he's doing it in practice, please let us know. He put that thing on Jalen's face a couple times.

He did. He did. Oh, yeah. Brings the team down. I love it. I don't know if that's happening in practice or not, but that is an obstacle that other teams

are going to have to prepare for. Oh, what a moment. There's other footage that going to have to prepare for. Oh, what a moment. There's other footage that we're seeing of Josh Allen. Hey, you know, every interview he gives, he's the happy, you know, smiling. Hey, how we doing? Have a good time. Everybody's like, oh, he's just a big kid. He jokes around all the time.

He's a fucking dog, huh? Hey, he is. So-called killer. He came to the sideline after I think he scored a touchdown. He came to the sideline. He was flexing that knee. He said, I is so close. Killer. He came to the side. He came to the sideline after I think he scored a touchdown. He came to the sideline. He was flexing and he said, I'm a dog. I said, yeah, man. Okay, let's go.

That's a dog, bro. Hey, you need that. I think you need that at that position. You have to. Yeah. I mean, when a guy like that, he's firing you up, man. He's making plays out there. The only level is up everybody else's plays.

So, like I keep saying, man, we're just so lucky to have him on our team. I guess you've got to be a dog, though, whenever you're getting paid over $100 million. The entire franchise is sitting on your shoulder. Like, hey, to handle that and get better, you've got to be a fucking dog. I love everything about it. Tony, your question for Jordan. Last one here

jordan you were talking about communication and one of the big things before the game that everyone was talking about was trey white being out and uh the young corners like did you notice yourself during the game or or whatever like having like were you communicating more to make sure that you guys were all on the same page those boys were ready to play man those boys kair and cb they came in ready to play there wasn't really any anything I had to do extra out of my game or out of myself to make sure that, you know, I give them the check. They knew what they're doing. You know, it was nothing out of the ordinary.

They made the plays they had to. So it was really cool to see, and both of them boys have been growing this whole training camp. And I know the situation between Kier and CB, first-round pick CB, but those boys, they're grinding together with each other, and they're going to continue to make our team a lot better. Would have been cool to know that

before the game. Yeah, would have been. So we were on the bills, on the bills, on the bills, on the bills, on the bills, and then somebody came on the show. Sal Capaccio. Sal Capaccio came on the show and talked about rookie corners, you know, how's it going to go work out?

And we immediately were like, his elbow's better than that. You wouldn't trust Mike, am I? Well, see, that's what we fucking were realizing while we were watching the game.

Okay? That's on us. We were immature at the time. That's fine. That's fine. That's fine. Won't happen again.

Won't happen again. Long season. A lot of times, pick the bills coming up. Don't you worry about that. We appreciate you joining us on this Tuesday. What do you got today? Anything else? Nothing, man. Won't happen again. A long season. A lot of times, pick the bills coming up. Don't you worry about that. We appreciate you joining us on this Tuesday. What do you got today? Anything else?

Nothing, man. Go get some treatment. I might go golf a little bit. Hell yeah. We'll see. We'll see. Shot of 87. Some merch, too.

Got a clothing line. Huh? Don't you have your clothing line? That thing's still rolling, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Check it out. I'll just send y'all some. Okay. I'll just send y'all some. Okay.

I'll just send y'all some. How do we buy it? There it is right there. Well, it's sold out right now, but I'm going to tell y'all. Oh, shit. Sorry about it. It's a lot. It's a lot of it.

Sweet. But, yeah, y'all check it out. I'll send y'all some. Boyko's going to send me y'all address. I'll get y'all a box of stuff. Okay. Supply chain's a problem for everybody. Okay?

So we understand. We understand completely. Enjoy your day. You said you shot an 87. You're a golfer? I'm a golfer. I try. I try.

I try. 87 is pretty good. 87 is all right. My best is 80. I never broke 80. I hit 80 three times. Never broke it, though. Today.

Are you a bomber? Yeah. What are you? 300, 310. Jeez. All right. It'll play. My short game is tough right now.

You got to work on that. You got to work on that. This guy that's sitting on the screen with us, 380, 390 drives. No shit. That barbarian. I'm not Timmy Tebow. That's crazy, though. Dude.

My goodness. Jordan, we were out of Tahoe at that American Century Championship. Yes. Whoever's listening, I'm trying to play in that one these days. Go ahead. Yes, you should. Make a Pro Bowl maybe, dude. I got to do something.

He's a spectacle to watch drive. He swings actually out of his shoes every time, dead straight. It's like a home run every single time. I've got to go YouTube this now. Yes. Wild. We appreciate you. Have a great day.

Good luck on the golf game. You're breaking 80 today. Jordan Poyer. Yeah! Anytime we start talking about plays and games and outcomes and situations, we know the football season is back, but it isn't until the first Tuesday of the season, A.J., and games and outcomes and situations. We know the football season is back, but it isn't until the first Tuesday of the season, A.J., that we get a real chance to dive deeper into the weeds.

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Great shirt. Great, great shirt, Aaron. Great shirt. Thanks, Pat. We're all Mustangs here, aren't we? We're all Mustangs here. Not true.

Hey, let's go Mustangs! Mustangs! Hey, you had that water last week. What is it? I assume that water tastes better than the water that I'm drinking right now. This is raw Nom Hom coconut water. Is that ayahuasca right from the micro dosing no it's uh it's right from the source made in uh made in thailand and uh

pretty incredible it's a new product i just found. So checking it out. Staying hydrated, bro. You know how we do it. Hey, you're damn right. I'm with you. Now, this one's from Fiji. Yours is from Thailand. I'd assume your water is better, but I appreciate the hell out of you for joining us. Let's dive into it. How is the mindset? Last year, pretty similar start. I think this isn't a new feeling after week one, trying to figure some things out. How are you here on this Tuesday? Have you moved past the Vikings game already? Well, yeah, Patty, you got to. It's Tuesday already.

We're already in our next preparation. That's the beauty and the curse sometimes of our sport. You know, it's fun to reminisce and stew over a big-time win where you ball out and have a great performance. And it's nice sometimes to be able to move past a disappointing uh loss in the first game of the year now like i said after the game you know definitely an improvement over last year we scored seven as opposed to three so hell yeah a lot of things to build on uh but that game was you know a couple plays from being really tight that's the beauty of the nfl and the

frustrating part you know we had a chance in the first play of the game to have a 75-yard touchdown. We had a chance on the goal line a couple different times to punch it in and score. And, you know, the game would have looked a lot different, obviously. And that's that game you don't like playing, but coaches like you because you got a lot to correct on Monday. I can imagine. Hey, what was it like?

What was their defense doing? I guess that may have frustrated you guys, or at least they seemed like they were covering everybody and they were getting a ton of pressure on you. Is that just normal Vikings D? Well, they got a good front, obviously, with Z and Hunter. They got two premier pass rushers, and they got some good push up the middle. They played some different coverage on the back end. Harrison was really flying around on my eyes, and there were some things we just didn't expect. Leverages mostly, I think, on the slot for a lot of different plays.

There were some guys left open at times that we got to. Some we couldn't get to because of pressure. But overall, they played pretty solid. They didn't bring a lot of pressure. They pressured maybe two or three times the entire game. So they played a lot of shell coverage, a little bit of one-high here and there, sprinkle in, but a lot of quarter-to-quarter half stuff. And stuff that we expected to see, we've seen from our own defense and practice. But when you've got a good pass rush and you can cover on the back end,

that's a good recipe for shutting the team down. Going into the game, you know that Bach and Jenkins aren't going to play? Or is that kind of game-time decision and takes you off guard there? Because you know they have a good pass rush, and you're without Bach for a season now at this point, all-pro guy. I mean, that's going to be difficult to replace regardless, let alone who knows when he's going to be back. Do you know going into the game that's the case?

Going into the week that's the case? And can that ever enter your mind? How do you block that out? Most of the time we know by Friday if a guy's going to play or not. There's certain players, and I kind of fall in that category, that can not practice all week and then play on Sunday, and you expect them to be out there and playing well. Every now and then a guy won't practice and maybe do some stuff on Saturday

and go out and play. But for the most part, if a guy won't practice and maybe do some stuff on saturday and go out and play but for the most part the guy doesn't practice uh during the week and definitely practice on friday there's not a high expectation of him playing so we had a pretty good idea that that both elton and dave weren't going to play uh starting the week but you know they had a chance to get out there and see how they felt and they weren't ready to go and alan pushed it hard to come back and i just wasn't ready either. So, you know, down those three, it didn't help. But I feel like the line overall played pretty good up front. We ran the ball really well.

We just didn't get enough attempts. I think we had 18 attempts for 100 yards. Just got to find ways to keep getting the ball to 28, 33 more. But I know it was a good learning experience for us. You hate it for that to happen in an L learning experiences and wins are a lot more fun but you know I'm sure there's

overreaction Monday the first Monday of the whole football season you know after the games have happened it's I'm sure really fun time for all media types because you can write a team off you can crown a team you can make you know some wide sweeping decisions about certain teams or players or sides of the ball and

you know we're just getting back to work and and hoping to put a little better product on the field this Sunday. Now I don't know if it's been since the Ayahuasca trip a few years back that made you change your mindset about football and life as a whole you seem to be very comfortable confident and content in what this team is going to become uh you said that after the game you're like growing pains and everything like that young squad around you we saw that literally on the first play you already referenced it i mean hey you i mean that was bucket in a bucket with a brand new on a go route. What do you say to him since the game has happened? Because you're going to need him, right? I mean, you're going to need him,

and it feels like you are very comfortable with where all these guys are and their development and what next week's going to look like. Yeah, I mean, as I was just saying to Christian after that one, that was obviously a great route by him. And I was teasing Pat P after the game how we got him on the first play. And he said, I wasn't quite warmed up yet. You know, I like the call. We talked about it basically from Thursday on, starting the game with that play.

And, you know, in so many words, unless the coverage was something else, I expected the ball to go to Christian. And so we talked about that and the type of route he wanted to run and the fact that he could score on his first play as a Packer. So there's a lot of things that kind of lined up there really nice. But, like, there's not much to say. You know, drops are going to happen. They suck more when it's one that would have been a walk-in touchdown.

But the ones that are most frustrating are the mental mistakes, and we made way too many of those on Sunday. And that's what we've got to clean up. There's going to be drops. You hope not for a touchdown again, or at least not a bomb touchdown. But it's the mental mistakes we've really got to clear up. There was a lot from a lot of people. What do you mean?

Do you have examples for people don't know what that means and is this what you were motherfucking about on the bench yeah give tom a break probably probably yeah they were zoomed in real tight i heard uh i i couldn't i could hear a couple of the words it's it felt like but there was a lot of this a lot of this and it was fucking every time this Is that what you're talking about? Is that the frustrating thing? And what are some of those things, if you could expand upon? Well, I think it goes into the why, which is the most important thing in football and often in life.

It's understanding the why. Here we go. So we have a play, right? And you install it and you talk about it. That's paper play, right? And you install it and you talk about it. That's paper football, right? To go into it, the next level before you get onto the field is to understand the concept of why. What are we trying to accomplish with this play? And how does that affect my specific role on that play?

That is the why part, why we're running this play. So it might be because of certain coverage. It might be because of a certain matchup. It might be because of a certain adjustment you're expected to run on a certain play i mean that's what we just need to clean up a little bit um just the why parts we can't have a bunch of uh you know robotic things going on out there we need guys to be able to react in real time and and to make adjustments on the fly and some some of that is, you know, experience for sure. And some of that is just in the preparation. It's not just understanding what you need to do,

but why you need to do what you're doing and then what to expect, which will change what is drawn on the paper to what actually needs to show up in live time in the game. So, you know, again, that's why we have to have patience. A lot of these guys have not played a ton of football, and really it's not something that could have been figured out in training camp or some off-season throwing session. These are live rep things with the pressure of a regular season game,

with the pressure of it counting, that they have mistakes they have to make. And there's things that have happened a practice that we've corrected. But it all comes down to in the moment, can we make the right adjustment? Can we think quickly but have a slow mind? Can we play fast but be under control? And that's why I'm not too worried about it. There's a lot of talent on our side of the ball. We just got to execute a little bit better.

If 10 guys are doing all right on one play, sometimes it's that one person who screws it up, and it could be me. They could totally ruin a play. You mentioned that. Could you have gotten any of that experience in the preseason? I know you mentioned regular season because you knew that question was probably coming or they already asked you in the locker room. But if you would have got some reps in the preseason, would that have helped? I would assume that's what they're asking you.

Look, a lot of this stuff is team specific. It's look specific. It's against first team players who are running intricate schemes. The preseason is a lot of one high man, one high zone, and two high man. It's very basic coverages. There's very few pressures. Most coaches will talk to each other during the week before the lead-up of the game and ask for certain things or ask not for certain things or say who's playing or who's not playing. Are you going to bring any pressure or not pressure.

And for the most part, there's very few real football scenarios that happen that you can't get outside of a practice. The only thing is that there's more people watching those preseason games. Other than that, the practice reps are the most important because you're going against the number one defense when it's the ones on ones and they're playing intricate coverages and schemes and trying things and you have to react in real time so those are the most important reps the preseason is just to see if anything changes when the lights go off for certain players but you know like that's why i said we're going to be a work in progress i said it before the season i

said it after the game we have to have patience with these guys. All the guys, not just the young players, but all the guys, because there's an adjustment with the way things were doing. Bill Belichick actually said, preseason games, nobody's showing anybody shit. He actually said it like last week. He said, nobody's showing anybody anything. All the cards are on the table week one. The cards, it seemed like, that the Vikings were putting on the table were fucking good. And I know you've been in the NFC North for a long time, and the Vikings have looked at the Green Bay Packers for a long time as the team that's

gotten in their way. They probably had a couple good squads that could have won on runs, but the Big Bad Wolf was in the NFC North in that frozen time in Wisconsin, which is you. What did you see from that team? I mean, it looked like their defense was able to get pressure. Offensively, Justin Jefferson, and you said it afterwards, hey, man, couldn't help but pay your respects, I feel like, to how he played and what he did. Did you notice anything different about that team with Kevin O'Connell's leadership over there?

Well, I'm happy for Kevin. Kevin used to be a workout buddy of mine at San Diego years and years ago. As young players, we worked out in a gym out there. You're so old, bro. That guy's a head coach now. In your division, you're an old ass, bro. Old. I'm happy

for him, though. He's been some different places and done a great job. He obviously has the charisma to lead a team and the intelligence to come up with good schemes. They obviously run a similar offense that we run. I'll tell you what I told Justin after the game. I said he was the best player on the field, and I meant it.

I didn't say it tongue-in-cheek. I've been a fan of his since I watched him in college, and he's a dynamic player who is an excellent route runner. I'm sure, as any good player should do and would do he's probably watched the bestest position over the last couple years and that would be probably davante adams hell yeah a lot of his release stuff looks pretty similar to 17 and you know he was the difference maker i think for the entire game hey kirk's very steady a quarterback and did a nice job look like getting them in the right stuff

and making the plays that were there to make. But Justin, obviously, was the difference in the game. Yeah, this is a cool moment. Everything you say and do is going to get recorded. So I assume Justin was happy to hear that from OG legend Aaron Rodgers. And it was real watching it. Kevin O'Connell allegedly going to be putting him in the Cooper Cup role. I'm excited to see what he does.

That could be a problem in the NFC North. Hey, I know there's going to be a learning curve, but I think over there they're ready to go right now. Ty, your question for Aaron Rodgers. Aaron, glad to see you're in good spirits today. You know, everyone, like last year, is going to write you guys' obituary today and this week. So that will be fun to revisit later in the year.

But I also did love seeing you, you you know out there lead blocking like ronnie bass lower the shoulder nearly fucking decapitating big z uh but you also you got banged up pretty good there was later in the game they're showing you on the bench getting your you know neck massage how's the body feeling today you feeling okay going into next week i feel like I just played a game. It's been about eight months, so it's good to feel some contact again. I will say we were talking last night, a couple buddies, about the best football movies of all time, and I brought up how it's amazing that –

Right here. Yeah, he pulled off right there. Fuck you. Fuck you. You said three times. That was awesome. That was amazing. Yeah, a better athlete probably would have stayed up there.

I don't know, man. That's a big dude, bro. Remember the Titans, one of the best plays is Sunshine. He flabbed back like four guys on refs touchdown runs. Yep, to win the state title. One of the greatest blocking displays ever in any position. But, yeah, man, I'm feeling pretty good. I'll be fine.

Nate gave me a nice little neck massage there on the sidelines for a second. But, yeah, you know, every week is like a car crash. Could be, you know, big pileup or it could be just a little fender bender when you run your car into the median or something on accident, but I mean, I think

AJ's probably done that before. I was about to say, it seems like a situation that has happened. Actually wakes him up. See if he wants to share that story at some point. AJ crashed into a median. Never would have guessed. Never would have guessed. This guy's a menace to our roads, Aaron, this guy.

He's a menace to a lot of things. He's just lucky he's got a great woman kind of dressing him in the mornings, making sure he showers, brushes his teeth, eats more than eggs and them in the mornings making sure he showers brushes his teeth you know eats more than eats more than eggs and chicken in the day so yeah aaron why is everybody going shotgun on the one yard line what's the deal you agree well there's this for years it was always a big personnel right it's 23 personnel and you got in your goal line packages, and you had your specific plays. And then a lot of people went away from it and just kind of took goal line out altogether.

We don't even really have 23 plays in the plan. We have some 12 plays and some 13 plays, but no 23 plays. I'm talking about personnel here, so two backs, three tight ends. It's just not many people, especially this offense, and this offense is now at seven or eight, nine, ten teams maybe. There's not a lot of goal line emphasis in this offense. A lot of teams like to stay in 11 and do some things. It's had some success, and when it goes well, everybody's like,

yeah, why would you ever put in big personnel in a game? And when you get stuffed on the one or a guy fumbles like last night, people are probably wondering why the heck you don't have big personnel. And that's the beauty of the media. They can take whatever side they want. Have you talked to Hackett since last night? He's taking it on the shins right now about the whole timeout 64 yarder at the end. If McManus, who is an incredible kicker, I'm a big fan of with a big leg. He makes that kick and they have less time on the clock after the kickoff to get back

into field goal range. He looks like a genius. But since it was a 64 yarder and the chances are low, then he misses. He looks like an idiot. That guess that's just the NFL and Hackett knows that that's what comes with the territory of being a head coach, you think, or what? Yeah, he's got real thick skin. I'm not worried about Hackett at all. I was texting with him before our game and then during the day yesterday. I love him. He's a great man, great coach.

I thought once they took it down that the right thing to do was the kick. If they had called timeout right away, obviously the idea would have been to go for it there. It was kind of that tweener there on what, the 36? Six. No, 46. 46, yeah, the 46-yard line. I mean, McManus got two kicks at it, too.

He got the free timeout one that he missed a little left, and he adjusted slightly and still missed it. It looked like it was long enough, though. They didn't have that graphic where you can see if it would have made it from whatever, but it looked like it was long enough, just missed a little bit left. And again, that's what they can do.

He decides to kick it. He makes it. You know, great decision. There's only 15 seconds left on the clock. You know, he misses it. Oh, why did you take the ball out of, you know, Russell's hands and blah, blah, blah. So that's the way it goes.

You've got to stick to your guns and believe in what you're doing. You know, Mason's got a big leg. I don't think he has 64, so in that situation, we probably would have burned the time out right away with about 50 seconds and gone for it. Now, I assume this is all situations are situational and it can be figured out. They could go hard count time out there, right?

You can go hard count. It's fourth and five. Steal five there if you want. Everybody kind of knows that. Hard counts ever work? Yeah, hard counts can work. No, no. Yours are always, you fucking kill people.

But, like, on the fourth and five, everybody on defense is like, water, water, right? Like, everybody is basically. Yeah, I mean, yeah. Yes, and it's still, first of all, it wouldn't be a hard count, right? Because they're on the road. So, playing in Seattle. So, it would be a silent count, right, because they're on the road. So they're playing in Seattle. So it would be a silent count. And their silent count is guard tap.

And guard tap, there's pluses and minuses to each decision-making. So we do foot, right? So I raise my foot up and down. Josh looks under, looks looks up snaps the ball um the disadvantage of that is that he has to rely on his guards to tell him you know where the uh where the turn is going to where the guys are at who's walking around all that stuff and his first look is he's already snapped it then he's got to get the picture right for the guard tab it's allowing the center to have his eyes down the field the whole time the only drawback is in opinion, it's much harder to ever get anybody to jump on guard tap

because there's such a rhythm to it, and it's a little bit slower, where the center up and down is so rhythmic that if you get a guy into a rhythm, every now and then you can get somebody to jump in a certain situation. You do what? Yours is tones, all your hard counts at home. Isn't that what it is? It's like rhythm, tone. It's hard to pick up, but once you have it, it's a complete weapon.

Does anybody else do what you do? Well, I like Pat's. Pat has a number of cadences that he rolls through in Kansas City, and they do a bunch of different things with second and third cadences and quick cadences. It's having a good mix of all of it. The times to get them to jump off sides is when you feel like there's a rhythm to it. Maybe you've gone on the same count 80% or 90% of the time of the last maybe 10 or 15 plays, and you change up the count significantly but it's a

weapon because it doesn't allow the defense to really fire off the ball and that's what obviously you know you're playing in seattle or a loud loud environment much easier for those guys to be able to get a jump on the snap count because it's obviously going to be a little bit – just a tick off for the tackles, especially getting off the ball. But at home, you know, it can be a weapon. Draw them off sides if they decide to jump or making sure that they're, you know, just a tick late, making sure that ball snapped first

so we're actually getting a slight advantage on the count. I used to do that for field goal snaps. No big deal. You know, we're going on four this time all right let's go let's show four on film on an extra point so that the other team sees that hey this could be on four then all the big guys the offensive linemen hate it in practice fucking hate it but in the game nobody's coming so it's like a gift of the curse you got to have everybody on the same page there with the movable offense alignment that you have happening can you be as aggressive with it whenever it's a new crew each week it seems like well you got to you got to you got to hold to the standard you know i mean obviously it's about about making sure you get that ball

snap everybody on the same page but you got to hold to the standard and that's why in practice we're always mixing with it i mean it's it's very, very rare, if ever, that, you know, any back-to-back plays are on the same cadence. So we're always mixing it up, and we have a number of cadences. I don't need to go through them all, but we have a number of different cadences that we can go. You have different numbers and colors you use? The colors and numbers is the snap point within those colors and numbers that can change from time to time.

Jesus. Wow. Did you take the color number from Brett? I adjusted his color number, but I used the same colors. Yes. Green and blue. Green 19? Is that what you, what is yours?

Green 19. And blue 19? Blue 58. Oh, because the L in blue there and the R in green. Are we figuring it out? Oh, no. Oh, no. This is competitive advantage.

That's why people don't do this. Joe Cain used blue 80. Who? I think. Joe Cain from the program, but I don't know. I'm not 100% sure, and I'll check. I can promise you the colors in no way are related to direction. Oh, okay.

Yeah, that's what somebody would say if it was, by the way. Zero correlation. Hey, you cut your hair. You look awesome. What made you do that? At what point was there a certain moment where you're like, you know what? Time to get the AJ Hawk and turn into a fucking sex magnet. Is that what it was?

Anthony Kiedis. Yeah, you know what? I couldn't make it to Supercuts like AJ, but... Sports Clips. Sorry, Sports Clips. Hey, we almost had a deal with... MVP treatment. We almost had a deal with Sports Clips.

No, I never get the massage. Well, that was the problem. Come on. AJ wouldn't get the MVP treatment. The fools. Show them answer, guys. What massage is that, AJ? What's that? Which massage is it? The MVP treatment. The hot dog fools. Show them the answer, guys. What massage is that, AJ? What's that?

Which massage is it? The MVP treatment at Sport Clips. I do not do that. It's extra money. I just get the quick cut, but you can continue with your answer. I'm sorry. The one, this type of massage or different one?

Whoa! Whoa! Get your head out of the gutter. Jeez. No, I meant like you're drinking coconut water and your feet run. I don't know if that's what the MVP thing is, but

AJ refused to get it, so we couldn't make a deal with Sports Clips. You tell me about it, Aaron. That's what this fucking guy is like. It's a menace. Yeah, but I definitely I've seen AJ rock a similar hairstyle for a long time and always enjoyed it. Tim Odie, you know Tim.

Tim has always been the stylish one in the equipment room. And he has a beautiful coif that looks very similar, just a little more gray than mine. But I think when I saw my picture from the NFL Honors, I said, might be time to... Was it the suit or the hair? All right.

So if I did all my hippie shit after that, at some point I'm going to cut this. It just finally came to be last Friday. Wait, hold on. Weren't you in the middle of a Pancho Karma puking shit routine in the middle of that NFL honors while you were wearing that full cowboy John Wayne tan suit with the hair flowing? Is that the picture you saw?

You shouldn't have judged yourself in there. Listen, I don't know where you're getting your information about Pancho Karma, but there's no puking in Pancho Karma. No, I heard attic basement. Same damn time. That's how you get the evil spirits out. That's what I heard. Get the evil out of you.

Ayahuasca, that can happen, yes. Oh, thank you. But not panchakarma. We're crossing streams here, okay? Let's get our info right. All right, so you decided to cut the hair after all the hippie stuff. The hippie stuff was obviously a topic of conversation for everybody in their life.

How has the drawback been with the teammates? Did everybody come up to you and be like, hey, what's ayahuasca like? Or did everybody, has your offseason been a topic of conversation with your younger teammates at all? And how has that been? Oh, man, it's been interesting to hear from so many different guys across the league uh people uh men and women and that i know or that i don't know reached out and asked questions about it um people from my past acquaintances friends close friends who didn't understand it or wanted to learn more about it and then teammates too a lot of teammates pulled me aside and asked me about it,

interested in it, wanted to know more about it, wanted to know more about my experience with it. So it's been fun. Made for some interesting cafeteria conversations. And anytime you can share some information like that, I think it's always a good thing. And I've been on some fun. I got to do Rogan's podcast

finally. I got to be on with Aubrey, which was amazing. I just talked to Bill Maher, had a nice conversation with Bill. It's been fun, kind of the people that have come into my sphere, both not just through the ayahuasca sharing, but also through

the dealing with COVID last year. It's been quite a year. We're talking about the shot you finally got on a Sunday conversation with Caleb Presley. Yeah, that was fake. What? What? Excuse me?

What? I was in the room. I was in the room. I thought it was. Remember where it happened. I wasn't even allowed to say, like, hey, I just watched Caleb Presley vaccinate Aaron Rodgers. I was told directly I wasn't allowed to say that because that was not real. Didn't AJ come on and say that I was vaccinated?

Yeah, he did. I was like, AJ, we have any big news to break in the next hour? He goes, Aaron's vaccinated. That was just on a random fucking Wednesday. Do you remember that that oh yeah the off season yeah that's what yeah that's classic aj yeah just a wild card i read the text wrong i'm sorry hey have you gotten back into your full season routine and has that been anything have you just picked up right where you left off every single year whenever you show back up for the season are you having fun well i think it adjusts it definitely adjusts every year you you know the off season i like to sit down and and uh write down think about what worked what

didn't work kind of like an end of the season review for myself and what i want to change so it's going back and revisiting some of those ideas and thoughts and then adjusting that's what i did the kind of the week off before the season started was look at my each day and and how do i want each day to to go uh what what are the important things i need to get done uh where's time for just relaxation and turning my mind off um and then you know what do i want to add to my routine what kind of doesn't really work and then just figure it out to where i'm feeling my best each week and and the you know there's been some adjustments with it but for the most part it's pretty similar uh just kind of planned my week around this you know 45 minutes to an hour basically well we're happy to hear that

and thankful you showed up today because you know a lot of people on the internet that weren't privy to seasons one and two of this particular tuesday program that happens aaron ain't coming yeah aaron ain't showing up after that Vikings game. It's like he sits in an incredibly comfortable chair in his house, in the pocket, in the fire, in the Thunderdome every Tuesday regardless. And this is another one of those where we can't thank you enough. Connor has a question for you, Aaron. Go ahead, Connor.

Yeah, Aaron, last year Kirk Cousins said, if I die, I die. Did you guys meet at midfield and kind of, you know, give each other a fist bump and congratulate each other on making it past COVID? No, no. I respect Kirk a lot. I've played against him a number of times now over the years and also respect his right to have an opinion about his own health and to make a decision

which he feels is in his best interest. There's zero judgment at all with him or anybody else who decides to make their own decisions. for whatever reason, that just reminds me of that fake quote that was out there about how close me and Kirk are spending time together in the offseason.

The Internet's awesome right now. Fake quotes are going more than they've ever gone in the past. Oh, yeah. Actual counts are getting got. That's not what happened. I like Kirk a lot. I think he's a super, super nice guy, a very good player. But I haven't spent a lot of time with him off the field over the years but um but no we both made it through the winter of death uh thankfully and uh good to

see uh good to see us both still out there maybe you guys do i waska together you and that'd be awesome good aj aaron i heard you on club random with bill maher you told him that you're a throwback player you know you're you, chin strap, no mouthpiece, weird baggy pants, your big high tops, and your socks straight out of the box that they give you so you look like the guy in the poster. You mentioned you got to see Brett Favre. Did Brett tell you all these things to do to be a tough guy, or

did you just watch and absorb it? What's wrong with this guy? I just listened. Bill Maher was smoking dope. I just listened to it. Bill Maher was smoking dope. What? He was.

He was. It's legal. Legal in California. It's not legal. I don't know, H. Is that a real question? I'm serious, though. You got smashed by one play.

Brett had like 300,000 straight starts, right? Never missed a start. And he wore a singleton strap, didn't wear rib pads, didn't wear a mouthpiece. What? I was like, that's a standard. And then I always had bad ankles going back to high school. And for those three years as a backup, I never taped my ankles of it was I'm like well shit I ain't going on the game he knows I was like after the first year I was like man my ankles for someone's

better when I roll them now or have a slight you know have a slight roll I don't have there's no issues you know it doesn't swell up doesn't bother me and I realized that the less I was taping them the more it was taking off of my knee because you know basic uh science and i have basic science yeah i'm gonna use those two words in the same sentence but um well you when you lock up when you lock up one joint right the pressure uh goes to the next joint either up or down so you lock up the ankle there's naturally a little more pressure structural pressure that uh that goes to the knee and so having a bad knee for so long since i was in high school i felt like and maybe this was just

a placebo effect which is very powerful as well, but I felt like... Well... God, I miss this show, man. It's good to be back. I felt like I was taking pressure off of my knee if I had ankles that were stronger and I got them stronger by not taping my ankles.

So, it was against kind of conventional wisdom. As a young basketball player, it was always you've got to have your ankle braces, you've got to tape your ankles. And the less I taped my ankles, the stronger they got. The stronger they got, the less pressure and pain was going to my knee, and my overall leg health improved. So you had to take the rope off like you're Batman in that cave. That's right.

You know what I mean? You've got to rise. Yeah, you've got to rise. You've got to take the rope off. It's holding you back a little bit. The tape on the ankles was holding back the rest of your body. Yes. I'm happy we learned that.

Look at us, bub. Rest of the week, we're working hard. We're chatting up to teammates. We're having dinner. What does this week look like as we go forward with a new group of people? Rest of the week, we're working hard. We're chatting up to teammates. We're having dinner. What does this week look like as we go forward with a new group of people? Well, COVID is over, supposedly. Is it?

What? Thursday, I'm back to being invited to the – we're going to have O-line dinners again. Oh, yeah. Okay, we beat COVID and O-line dinners are back. Yeah. All right, look at us, dude. Yeah. Yeah, man. So we had one last week. line dinners again. We beat COVID and O-line dinners are back. Look at us, dude. We had one last week. It was lovely.

We had a good time. Everybody showed up. Look forward to that on Thursday. On Friday, I believe there's some sort of concert in town. Who? The Killers. Nickelback? I wish. They were in Austin this past week when I was down there. I found out late.

Ozzy Osbourne? Is it patient number nine? Is it Bob Ritchie? Who is it? Zito, rest center. Look it up, Z. Z, look up who it is. There's a reason he's not telling us. You're definitely going to this concert? He's going on stage. I don't remember exactly who it is, but I think I'm Dixie Chicks.

No, it's just the Chicks. Look at us. We all all know i didn't know oh clearly it's it's luke combs i think fucking love that guy yeah all right enjoy the hell out of your week we appreciate you so much we'll start the book club next week. Once we get the $100,000 donations figured out this week, you're the best. Can't wait to see what the Packers look like for the rest of the season. We appreciate you, man. You're on Sunday Night Football, boys.

Hell yeah. Burn it up. Burn it up. Been waiting all day for Sunday night. Scott. My gang Chris the fire. Aaron's on drugs. The king of the night.

I hope they add that in. They remix every week. Yeah. I wonder if they wrote the song before or after the Ayahuasca news drop. You know what I mean? I noticed that

I believe it was Thursday night first game of the year. Collinsworth didn't slide in. You think that's what happened to his voice? They fucking... Just because he didn't slide in. Did he address it at all? Yeah, he did. The slide or the dress? His voice. So the slide was not addressed. His voice was. Tirico said

this man's done three things in three days. Travel got the best of him. I think allergies are hitting everybody. Last week and I felt for Chris Collinsworth because whenever you have a profession that has a microphone and speaking, and you have no idea if your next word is going to be heard or not in the middle of a sentence, that is a tough mental battle to get through. I think at halftime and during commercial breaks, they were giving him some shit.

He sounded better and better. But then as he got a little bit more tired, he kind of broke up. Allergies, I think, are hitting everybody right now. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Last week I was having a problem. Had to take it up a nasal octave, which normally I'm nasal. Had to go up a little bit higher so the vocal cords would maybe show up for me. There was a couple conversations I was having, though, on college game day

where I was like, oh, the next thing that comes out of my mouth is not going to be heard. And I had to wrap up the sentence quickly. So I felt for Collinsworth there. He sounded fucking terrible. I can't wait for him to be back because I don't think people are listening to what he was saying. They were just talking about how he was saying it. And Chris is still Chris. We've got to remember that.

I assume Cincinnati weather probably somewhat similar to what we've had here all this goddamn rain. The ragweed count is so high. I mean, what do you want him to do? There ain't no ragweed over in Green Bay right now. Aaron looks very comfortable. He does. Doesn't he? He looked very comfortable. Likeweed over in Green Bay right now. Aaron looks very comfortable. He does. Doesn't he? He looked very comfortable.

Like, yeah, it's growing pains. We talked about this. We'd obviously want to win instead of a loss with it. But we'll move on in the – it sounds like just kind of waiting for it to click for some guys. And once that happens, it doesn't seem like he's worried at all about a drop-off. No, definitely not. And I think to your point, like we've kind of been talking about, like the Vikingsikings aren't some also ran like they have the chance to be very good this year like we might look at this game in three months and be like oh shit like okay the the vikings are for real they're

very very good so i don't think the panic level is high at all again like i said if they lay an egg against the bears on sunday night i think people will kind of be like whoa what's going on are these receivers going to be able to figure it out? But I don't think any Packers fan is really that worried about that. Bears are undefeated. Packers completely defeated going into Sunday night football. Judo's happy. He had victory stakes. The gout didn't show up. Life is

good for Bears fans. Let's get to a break. Let's take five. We'll be back with some phone calls. Take five? Five! Big thanks to Aaron Rodgers for joining us and for everybody that's watching. We're going to take five, take some phone calls, probably do a giveaway because it's the first Aaron Rodgers

Tuesday of the season. Have to do that. We'll see you in about five minutes wrapping up this glorious September 13, 2022 show. Let's go to the phones. Let's go to Dan in Connecticut. Lovely place here on the 5 Energy phone line. What's going on, Dan-o?

Oh, what's up, Pat McAfee? Dan, you are too young to listen to this show. I can tell. I think, how old are you? I'm not Dan. I am Owen. Matt. Owen, how old are you?

He's so different. I am at 8 and a half 8 and a half if you're telling us you're half age you're too young to be listening that's a record what's on your mind pal what do you want to talk about Owen

I want to talk about how inspiring this show is and how you're inspiring this whole entire world with how you're talking about sports and how you're talking about your life experience. Thank you, Owen. Thank you, Owen. And also, fuck Boston College. Oh! You're the best, Owen. You were the best, Owen.

Owen, you were the best. I want to let Owen know, if you're still listening, Owen, you're inspiring. Best kid ever. Owen, the way you talk about sports is inspiring. I can't say that. Yes. I didn't know eight and a half to do that. Wow.

Shout out, Owen. That time. Hey, Owen. New generation in Connecticut, I guess. He was making me feel good, too, by the way. He was making me feel good, making the show feel good. He was talking us up. He was hyping us up.

And then, boom, yeah. Was this Aristotle's brother? A little misdirection from Aristotle's brother, Owen. It was eight and a half there. That was awesome. I'd say he put his balls on your forehead, but I don't think they dropped yet. Ladies and gentlemen, the head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers, Coach Mike Tomlin. Oh, man, Pat, it's an honor to be on with you, man. Thanks for having me.

You're a legend. Thank you for putting me through my workout and having the scouts actually come watch me kick at West Virginia. I don't think I've ever fully thanked you for that moment, Coach. No, man, I've drank the McAfee Kool-Aid for a long time. Let's get right into it. The locker room culture changed completely when I was in the league, from when I was a rookie to when I was done. And I retired after the 2016 season. Now it's even more different, I would assume, from when you came into Pittsburgh and everything like that.

The dancing on the logo, the TikTok, everything like that that you guys have had to experience. What is your messaging in there? How do you adapt and let players be themselves without doing too much? Because that is a fine balance that you've been had to experience. What is your messaging in there? How do you adapt and let players be themselves without, you know, doing too much? Because that is a fine balance that you've been able to do, I think, in an incredible job with throughout your entire time at Pittsburgh.

I think for me, more than anything, I try to stay connected, you know, just getting a sense of where these guys are coming from, what's in vogue for their generation, what captures their attention, how do they learn, how do they communicate, how do they interact with each other formally and informally? And I think being a parent kind of helps me.

You know, my boys are 19 and 20, so it's not much difference between them and some of the younger guys that I deal with here. And so for me, it's just about gaining an understanding, working to stay connected. You know, that's my general attitude, man. It's adapt or die for me. And I don't want to be one of those old crusty guys man just that just refuses to adapt although i am one of those old crusty guys now yeah you are old as shit now you know what i mean i mean you've been around a long time i remember back in the

day whenever you showed up there was a lot more you know to the camera there's a lot more yeah yeah there's a lot of that now you're just old ass man now huh you know how these years in this business will scar you man it'll settle you down that is classic one of my favorite moments uh with you is uh when you would tell me every um warm-up i'm gonna get you back to pittsburgh when you're old and cheap uh what what does that mean what did that mean and uh should that have been taken as a smack in the mouth like i uh whenever you said that to me no man it was a tip of the cap man there's certain guys around this league that I'm really interested in but I know I cannot afford and and you were one of them so I was gonna wait for you to physically deteriorate a little bit you came

back into my wheelhouse yinzers are gonna go bananas in Heinz Field this weekend first time it could be filled up in a long time I can can't wait to see it. I can't wait to... Oh, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my We appreciate you, Coach T. Last question before we let you go. Why'd you let Troy Paul Mala do what he fucking did to me? Why'd you let, I know you've heard of this. Why, why? Well, that's the short side of the field. That's bad football. You guys coaching unsound football over there in Pittsburgh?

How did that happen? We know you and love you as a man, but on Sundays in the fall, man, you're the nameless gray faces that we see. All right, ladies and gentlemen, head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers, never had a losing season, absolute legend, two-time Super Bowl champion, Mike Thomas. Yeah. Thank you, Coach.

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That was Boston Connor that just read that ad for CK. Ty Schmidt sitting next to him. One half of the hammer. Cowboys tone digs is there. AJ, what did you learn from your good friend Aaron Rogers after that conversation there? He seems to be calm. He's not overreacting, not freaking out.

I'm sure he knows the outside world is. Yeah, I think he's seems to be in a good spot. I would imagine wednesday like tomorrow morning when they start that install meeting and everything he has already knows exactly what the plan is and will probably be pretty vocal on what he wants to you know what he wants to get accomplished throughout the week it seems like that's how he's been this entire training camp a lot more coaching a lot more accountability almost upon his shoulders which is what he's been asking for right yeah a little bit more saying some things a little bit more empowerment from the team he's got a young crew we don't really know any of these

motherfuckers but i assume they're gonna figure it out yeah that's why when like the jair alexander thing came out about him not covering uh justin jefferson the whole game even though he was asking for it i thought was kind of weird it's like i mean i feel like you hang your hat on jay or alexander in the secondary you're not gonna have him have him shadow Justin Jefferson? I wonder if it's just as easy as that, too. But Jair Alexander knows more than we do. I mean, if you're locked down corner, isn't that kind of a thing, like when you're playing with a guy? Yeah, but I don't know.

Like, what if Kevin O'Connell is using Justin Jefferson in a manner that is just like, what if they just. They mentioned it on the broadcast, too. Like, the other 10 guys have to know what they're doing. Yeah, Jair's good, but then it also affects the other guys, too. They got to know what they're doing yeah gyre's good but then it also affects the other guys too they gotta they gotta know what they're doing too i think grell and pain is going to take place i didn't we didn't get to ask him though about how much hype we heard about the defense right and then justin jefferson goes for two bills or whatever so i guess we did not get to ask aaron about i was also thinking though like and i not after the

game because in the moment it's just like jesus christ justin jefferson is wide open there's no one within 20 yards and then like you look at that play from Devontae against the Chargers. Sometimes he's one of the best receivers in the league. Sometimes these guys are just so fucking good, there's nothing you can do. Yeah, Devontae Adams obviously shook Asante Samuel on that one where he was wide open. Justin Jefferson's both plays. This is Aaron blocking Z'Darrius Smith. Justin Jefferson's plays. both like drag routes.

And I assume they cleared out for him to come across because, yeah, it's both him coming from one side of the field to the other. So that's a lot of tracking, I think. Obviously, he's Justin Jefferson, so that's going to be difficult regardless. But both plays, it's him coming all the way across. And I think that's going to take a lot of communication. That's going to take a lot of, I mean, conditioning and cardio. And you've got to keep up with a guy who's been untrackable

for his entire NFL career. What if that Kevin O'Connell offense is just, you know what I mean? What if they are? They absolutely could be. They really could be. We know they have stars everywhere you look on that team. So let's see. Let's see if Kirk can continue to play good, efficient football like he did, too.

Let's go to the phones. Let's go to the 5 Energy phone line. Let's go to Valerie in Minnesota. Valerie, what's going on in Minnesota on the 5 Energy phone line? Hi, Pat. I just got married this weekend to Rahul Iyer, who should be listening at work right now. Oh, yes.

He's a huge football fan. He was already on a team fantasy football strategy call, arriving to our reception right after our wedding. My question is, what's your advice for balancing marriage and relationship and the love of football? Valerie, congratulations. We hope that every single day you two wake up next to each other, it's a good one.

Congratulations, honestly, on everything. Thank you. No problem at all. Yeah. How does she feel about that? So she brought it up there, so I assume she noticed it. And it was one of the – Valerie, if you don't like football at all, I do think this might be a tough go with old Rob.

But if you also enjoy football, there's always a place that you can meet in the middle on what we're doing. I think like Sam enjoys football, NFL football, because she grew up in Indianapolis. The Colts were very good throughout her entire thing. So she's a big fan of NFL football. throughout her entire thing. So she's a big fan of NFL football. Now this new college football dedication that's happening, it's going to take her a little bit, I think,

to get used to this particular life that's happening. But I think if Valerie doesn't like football at all, which she has to, that's why she's calling into the show, right, I would assume? Yeah, and if he's on a strategy call for fantasy football directly after their wedding reception, she has to be somewhat okay with it. Yeah, she had to have known. It's's probably important all of a sudden yeah rob just didn't even watch football while they're on 15 fantasy teams i got a call i got 13 calls today hey i want to let you know like our bank accounts are joined now officially because we're married a lot you're gonna see a lot of withdrawals to different leagues but it's gonna come back about

six months six months five six months it's gonna come back back about six months. Six months, five, six months, it's going to come back. Is that right? How many leagues are you in? Well, funny you say that because I'm missing one of the calls right now. Sorry about it. Oh my god. Yeah, Valerie, you're going to be fine. Hey, Valerie, Rob, good luck. You guys got it. You guys will figure it out for yourselves. You'll make your own path.

You'll make your own way. You love each other. Remember that. Right, AJ? Sure. Whoa. I mean, day one, she's calling for advice on issues with his love of fantasy football. Well, I think she wanted to call in and say what's up to him too. A little surprise. He'll be fine. I just think, hopefully he didn't take her by surprise

and give her the old rope-a-dope. Like, oh no, I don't really do much of this. And all of a sudden, he got married. By the way, that's catfishing. That is catfishing. It's only one full day of the week. If you don't, just go do something else on Sunday night and watch football. Then it's Monday and Thursday. So three nights and one full day.

So you think about a full week, it's seven days with the calendar we use. Now, that calendar might be wrong, especially with the earth spinning a little bit faster now. True. But three out of the seven are taken from NFL football, though. Only for six months. Half the week for half the year. It's a lot.

It's a lot. I appreciate Sam paying attention to games that she does not give a fuck about just because she knows. And I appreciate that. But there are certain times where I feel bad. Like a game will be going terrible and we have zero real

fandom in it. I got to watch this because I got to know what this fucking... I'm so sorry. I'm going to have to. I do feel bad, but I don't think Valerie and Rob are like that. I also do think it's different for people who don't do what we do where it's like that really is work.

I have to pay attention. I know this game sucks, but like I really do have to talk about this all day tomorrow. And I appreciate Sam for understanding. Thank you, Sam. Thank you, Sam. Thank you to all the significant others of this office for everything. Yeah. By the way. Of course.

Everything. And also that's why it's nice, you know, Amazon came on a Thursday night night because now the Thursday night games in the past might have been pretty shitty. Now they're pretty good. Kind of sweet. Like this Thursday, huge game. Yeah, huge. Huge game coming up on Thursday. I assume week two is going to somehow top week one,

and it kicks off on Amazon Prime with the Chargers taking on the Chiefs. Justin Herbert, Patrick Mahomes, and a cast of stars. With Al Michaels and Herbstreet on the call, it should be an electrifying Thursday night. Week one just finished up. Week two is right around the corner. Valerie and Rob are going to dive all the way in. I'm pumped.

What a way to start week two, AJ. I mean, Kirk, Al Michaels, Amazon, Thursday Night Football. How did they get this game? This is awesome. I'm so glad they did. Oh, well, Bezos, you see, started in an apartment and he had spray paint, Amazon in the back. And they told that really weird looking nerd

that he was going to fail. And he said, no, I'm buying everything. I'm buying everything. I'm buying everything to sell everything. And then now he goes to space for fun on Tuesdays. So he has this big old bank account that everybody on earth knows about because it's tracked every single day is he the richest guy are they the richest company in the world or are they number two behind elon it's a conversation so the nfl goes hey if it works out with these people for their first time being the

exclusive there's probably a much bigger deal that could even happen maybe even next year down the road so the nfl is good business the nfl understands its fans they kyc yeah they know your customer the nfl does thursday nights are a big night they know amazon's got a big bank let's go ahead and make our fans happy our customers happy and our business partners happy and let's assume that the next bank is going to be a bigger bank somehow. That's how. Yeah, I understand the NFL absolutely wants Amazon to have a great experience here with these Thursday night games. Because Amazon pretty much owns everything already.

What's this last frontier, that appointment watching TV where people watch live? That's the NFL. $25 million Sunday night. Yeah. Go look through all the ratings thing and just see what's close. Nothing. Maybe the Super Bowl. That's it.

So the NFL knows that. Amazon knows that. And also, like Apple's watching. Yeah. They're seeing what, oh, Amazon got Justin Herbert, Patrick Mahomes, first Thursday night game. Oh, maybe they'll get in there. And the NFL knows that there's other platforms that have more money looking in there.

They want it to be a success. It's great for everybody, to be honest with you. Yeah, and the best part is Amazon said, you know what, if we're going to do this, let's do this. Give me fucking Al Michaels and give me Kirk Herbstreit, two guys that everybody basically universally loves and one guy that the NFL has been trying to get for a long time to call their games. Like, they crush it. And now if they get games like this that, you know, not like the Cowboys books, like these ones that might actually go and be a shootout.

Yeah, fireworks. Then we're in for a nice little Thursday night this season. Golly. It's incredible. Are we going to Wisconsin to hear Long Nick Has Cold Beer? It broke my heart. With Luke Combs? That'd be awesome.

He's a showman. Yeah. Yeah, he's a superstar. Icon. Yeah, but he's a showman, too. Like, when he's on the stage, he's going all in. Have you seen him in person? No, I watched him at CMA Fest, and he had a whiskey cup, chugged that, threw that in there.

It was belt full. You know, all the way out. Then he got a drumstick and started smashing a cymbal at the end. Threw that into the crowd. Threw his hat into the crowd. I'm like, this guy. Showman.

This guy's a showman. This guy understands like, hey, the song is the song. People are going to follow along. But also, we're paying a lot of money to see a guy up on a stage and he goes. He respects the craft, I believe.

I saw him. I was there and he did he put on a hell of a fucking show it's fucking luke combs and those are his words stage presence stage presence is key to performing like i love when someone has great stage like stage presence i don't really care how good of a singer they are i want them to put on a show okay me too i think singing helps though and he can live but that's secondary to me like i want to see that they're up there juice to be there they're up there, juiced to be there, they're excited, and they're passionate about what they're doing.

In the song he's singing, he wrote, so it's his words. Yeah. So I feel like I'm learning about the person. I'm watching him do his thing. It's a full, it's a show. He's a showman. I can't, I need to go see him live. Let's talk about seeing somebody live.

TJ Watt will be back this season because it has been announced that TJ Watt has torn a muscle in his pec, not a ligament in his pec. Ligament in pec, IR, going to have to get surgery. Muscle in pec can rehab, hopefully build up the other muscles around it, help rehab that muscle that was torn back together. He should be back in six weeks. He posted a Terminator GIF saying, I'll be Bach. And everybody is sitting around Pittsburgh waiting for that day because he started out remarkably. Three tackles for loss, two pass breakups, one of them being an interception, a menace all day. And he says he'll be Bach. AJ, your thoughts on TJ's diagnoses? This is a big

sigh of relief for everybody this is obviously it sounds like tj is very very relieved and excited that this is the case he probably thought instantly yeah there we go surgery i'm on ir the rest of the year i missed this whole season i started out great in this first game after coming off defensive mvp so i uh this is huge news for all of steelers nation for nick beraldo for tone for all of you guys nation, for Nick Beraldo, for Tone, for all of you guys. I think I'm actually, I'm super happy for TJ because right here I felt terrible. Yeah, Yinzers are rejoicing. And Yinzers at this moment were like, oh, no.

Everybody became lip readers. Everybody became a pessimist. Derek Watt even comes up and goes, oh, no, my brother's gone. The reigning defensive MVP. This is such an interesting play because it was clearly hands to the face. I mean, hey, get the fuck out of here, Leo, he says. But then Joe Burrow using his legs. So he's like doing a squat.

TJ is going for a rip down. It's classic, just uncomfortable, awkward, you know, explosion. And it's just like that's a game of football where something can pop with a play that nobody would expect like that aj yeah you never know like you see like even in the game last night there's some monster shots and everybody pops up i'm like oh someone's dead here every once in a while you think that and then play like this which some people may not think looks like a whole lot bam six eight weeks it's just an awkward you know he's going full rip on that arm trying to win the game fourth quarter 20 seconds left and then joe has his feet he isn't off balance at all, he's going full rip on that arm, trying to win the game, fourth quarter, 20 seconds left. And then Joe has his feet.

He isn't off balance at all. So he's fighting everything against it. So it's tit versus quads, basically, in this situation. And in this particular case, the squat beat out the bench and tore a muscle, which is probably going to take place 10 times out of 10. But there's other times where Joe Burrow has somebody at his feet, maybe he's off balance, and that rip is enough to get him down. But Joey Burrow said he prides himself on his mental, physical toughness

not going down ever. And TJ got an uncomfortable, awkward, but thank God he's all the way back. Yeah, it's like Jamal Adams last night. He's going to be all the way back, sorry. They're saying he tore his quad, and it looked just like a routine kind of play. And then all of a sudden he gets up, and he can barely walk over the sideline. That stuff's scary, dude. Is he out for the year?

For sure? Quad. Did he rupture the tendon? What happened? I don't think we've gotten the actual medical results out yet. It's just every conversation is, yeah, he's fucked. He's fucked, yeah. If it's ligaments, it has surgery.

And surgery means probably done, right, on muscle tears? And there was something with his hand during training camp. Yeah, he was playing with a broken hand as well. He was going to play the whole year with it, right? He needs surgery after the season, I think. He was flying around last night, too. That's a damn shame. Peyton was talking up Jamal Adams a lot in the Manning cast last night.

He's a big fan of that. If he has to get surgery on his quad, I would say, hey, buddy, fix these fingers up while you're at it yeah and also can i get lasik there we go while we're here just let's just do everything i'm not gonna be able to move right with this quad gonna be bedridden for how many seven eight days or whatever all right let's take care of everything i got this elbow thing tennis elbow give me 45 surgeries at once please bring all the doctors i need quad doctor i need arm doctor i need hand doctor i need eye doctor does everybody come in one time and make sure that guy gives me enough of the drugs to pass me out for two three hours it is

easy to forget when you're just kind of watching these games all day like but when you go back and watch some of these plays in like slow motion like how violent it is on every single play, especially if you're playing D-line or some of those. What about the corner last night, Ty? Was it Bowen? Bowen comes up, annihilates the lead blocker, and then annihilates the running back, and he pops his shoulder out.

Javante put his helmet right in his shoulder or whatever. Guys will have their shoulders pop out of place on a regular basis, and they're like, just pull it, pull it, pull it, and it goes right back in their eye. What's what's play it's like you maniacs and it is probably because a lot of people talk about how soft the game is that people are kind of getting comfortable with the sport for the future they forget like hey when people are moving 20 miles an hour at each other and they only have shoulder pads and a helmet on there's a chance massive collisions are going to happen and those are taking place every single play.

And the game can get as soft as it wants. It's still going to be a physical gladiator-style sport that people are going to love, and we should always remember that whenever we look at these guys beating the shit out of themselves for our entertainment and a payday. They're all getting paid. So I guess we should keep that in account as well.

Yeah, for sure. I mean, there aren't as many as there used to be, but you'll look at everybody, they're still good guys getting just blasted in the head. Every play. All the time. No, no, no, no, no. Fucking love it.

No, no, no, no. It takes courage to run and hit. It's one thing to be close quarters bad. It's like, hey, I'm a Sam linebacker. I'm walked up on a tight end. Close quarters, okay, here we go. Who's tougher in the moment? But to have space, like safety and running running back all of a sudden the hole opens up

running backs coming downhill adrian peterson with 12 yard running start safety's running at him eight yards away it takes a lot of courage to be like okay here we go buddy i'm going as fast as i can that's right at this dude that's what rex ryan said rex ryan said our sport is a sport that it takes courage to play you're scared but you're going out there anyways. So you try to tell little kids. Yeah, man. Everybody, hey, I'm like, you know, they're really scared too. Like they're scared that you're going to kill them.

So how about let's try to figure it out. Like we're all in the same boat really. This guy. Everybody's scared, man. But if we're all going to be scared and we're going to be in here, you're getting knocked out. I'm just saying, you know, kids especially. They assume like everybody else is the Terminator.

I'm like, no, you're playing other kids yeah everybody's human yeah yeah NFL you think people think that in the league too really you think so well no people think like I think sometimes when people talk about the change from college to the NFL yeah of course everybody's really good in the NFL everybody's really fast everybody can run but guess what like I tried to tell people I said these guys were all in college at one point too, bud. Like they were all rookies. They were young.

Like they're not, they're not like aliens. Well, some of them might be hybrids. We know that for sure now, but like they're still humans. They were young in the league at once too. So like,

you know, they'll figure it out. We know that for sure. Now he said, that's a matter of fact. We know for sure. Now there's, it does seem like it with what guys are getting bigger,

stronger, faster at every position somehow. Love great for the human race if there's anything cooking coming it's been quiet been quiet on that front it has not been there's really no it hasn't there's a shit popping up in the sky everywhere oh okay sorry i thought i might no i'm serious i haven't like i'm saying saying across in my algorithm. I haven't seen as much lately. My algorithm just knows. They know. My lambda is like a fucking brand new potential thing in the sky. Put that in his palm. Oh, it's a McAfee.

Of course, I knew it. Hey, Foxy, this is exactly what we saw. I sent right into the group. It just is never-ending. Let's hit some more phone calls here. You were talking about like safety running back it's like kicker returner you know what i mean exactly exactly just yeah same thing we're just staring they need to put justin ready to kick off specialists if his hip feels good and his

groin feels good i would like to see him all year do what he does and also i'd like to see him get down there and like cover kick make him have to count the kicker that's awesome yeah because you can easily put a five back as a safety there have the one of the fives that's going to be accounted for by somebody else and just let him go all the way through he bombs the ball he's already proven he's done that and did you see the mic'd up segment that um kansas city chiefs put out called the huddle they find out the buckers out he walks up to the special teams coordinator who i should know his name he's a very good special teams coordinator I apologize he was always very nice to me that's on me sorry about it um but he goes hey uh do you need me to kick off too and coach was like yeah he goes what do you want me to do just kick it out of the end

zone and the coach like laughs almost he's like yeah he's like all right and then the first one just fucking kicks it out of the end zone or whatever there was no panic at all from justin he's like all right yeah i'll do that jogging out for that first extra point because i thought about how i used to feel when i was just going out to hold for a standard extra point there's like obviously a heightened energy it's like okay here we go got to do something in a 1.2 seconds that's going to be very fast and all this happiness is gone if i fuck up like there's a moment where you think like that justin just jogging onto the field like yeah i've never done this in my life before didn't know i was going to do this today

just found out and then fucking murdering it over the net like i love this dude yeah i absolutely love this guy middle of a real game first quarter quarter of a game and he's actually playing it. I mean, it's awesome stuff. Let's go to a couple more phone calls and get the fuck out of here. We've got to run up to Thunderdome and, hey. Hammer some stuff out. Monday? Yeah.

Sweet. Oh, I said that last week. Last week, I was getting the predictions from other people. This week, it feels like it's mine. Yeah, making your own judgments. This is mine. This is my judgment. You can't control it. For some reason, it's not this next Monday.

You can't control the supply chain. Yeah, it's not on you. We technically could have went live from there a few different times. There's no reason until it's ready, though. Exactly. You're unveiling a new place. It's been in the works for a long time. We're not even going to have... There's no need for a soft open. No.

When you're on the half yard line. Especially with people. Yeah, we're in shotgun right now. We're going under center. We're going under center. Sure thing. And we are ass slapping straight.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Let's go, friends. Do you want to know how Mitt spelled Valerie from Minnesota? Yeah. Yes, please. V-A-L-L-O-R-Y. Valerie.

Valerie. Well, that's how they spelled Mallory, right? A friend named Mallory. Watching too much Thrones. The Valyrian is probably getting into his head. No, the Valyrian would have helped him out here, I think. Right? Probably. Yeah, you're right.

In theory, yeah. Mallory, yeah. So you need to start watching it. That's not how it's spelled. How do you want me to spell it, bro? V-A-L-E-R-I-E, by the way way is how my daughter is spelled. I don't know about Valerie from Minnesota who just made a star. That's how the song is spelled as well. That's my mom's name

spelling as well. Shout out. So it's Valerie. You learned something today, man. Yeah, there you go, man. Will you remember it tomorrow? Probably not. No. But it's alright, man. You're good at other stuff. Working hard, getting things done. Hot boy bets. Yeah're good at other stuff. Maybe, Mitt. Working hard, getting things done. Hot boy bets.

Yeah. Driving a sweet car. Sweet car. Yeah. Did I see Mitt had Seahawks money line last night? He did. Golly. Wow.

Fucking Mitt. Yeah, baby, Mitt. Yeah, bro. Fucking told you, guys. You lose one cent, you gain another, man. Can't spell, but I got a sense of who's going to win games. How'd you know? Was it Geno Smith?

Was that the case? Well, I actually thought that it was going to be a low-scoring game. I also had the under and Seahawks money line, and then I just thought Russ wasn't going to click well with his new offensive line or receivers. So I just had a hunch. Broncos also fired his dad. Oh, boy. You're in a a hunch. Bronco's also fired his dad. Oh!

Good point. Good on you, Mitt. That's right, Mitt. He benefits from the whole thing. Yeah. Number one punter in the league right now? AJ Cole. Raiders punter, yeah. Who's fancy teams are you on?

Oh, mine. Oh, that's right. Thatta baby AJ. What does that mean? He just punt punting backed up more than others um i mean yeah after one week you can't really judge but pinning him deep he's gonna do shit with tom mcmahon with how big his leg is like he's gonna he's gonna be a weapon i think especially in the desert out there that ball is gonna fly and he is like this tall like he's a very tall I need to go to a game out there. I want to go to that stadium. Let's go.

You want to do that? Yeah, the Vegas. It's black on the outside, right? Yeah. It's like the Death Star. I was in Vegas when it was being built. It wasn't done, but it was being built. I was like, man, that is sweet.

It is very nice. It's right off the strip, right? It's on the other side of the highway. So I think it's easy to get to. When we went there for the WWE, it was one of the first shows. Traffic was impossible to get to. Terrible. The the wwe it was one of the first shows traffic was impossible to get to the concessions weren't figured out yet but i think now they have something like trams running there from hotels i would imagine i don't know no i don't think so you can walk though but

there's you can't walk anywhere in vegas barely like oh that hotel is across the street i gotta walk across up over bridge like three miles technically you can walk everywhere in vegas in theory you can but every single time you start to you go what the fuck this is the largest hotel of all time yeah i'm walking four miles just get off of this property then i gotta cross over six lanes and then i gotta walk through their entire property get to it and they're like yeah you can you can though it's like well it's 145 degrees, too. I'm hungover and or still drunk. No way am I doing it. Not a chance. We should go to a game, though.

I think they got that suite area in the back, too, that you'd probably enjoy. Who do they play? That'd be sweet. I mean, we could go to any division game, yeah. Any division they have at home. We should try to get there. Yeah, that'd be sweet. All right, let's take, how many more phone calls? One or two? Who's on from where?

Florida, Illinois, Akron, Ohio Steven in Akron, Ohio What's going on pal? Yo, Pat, AJ What's going on man? Just chilling, how are you Steven? Keep it moving I've been listening since you guys first came on Long time

Long time listener, first time caller. Die hard, die hard Seahawks fans. 2-0 feels fucking amazing this week with Geno and fucking Jacoby Brissett, two of the bottom barrel quarterbacks of the league. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Stephen, Stephen, Stephen.

How are you a die hard fan of two teams in the same league? AFC and NFC, Pat. pat that's okay i respect he likes football enough to have his fan of both conferences he doesn't just like the league you guys are bad fans uh he likes the seahawks undefeated obviously with geno smith who looks like an absolute dog in this re-emergence into a starting role in seattle and pete carroll has fully empowered him and seattle was electrifying last night. Congrats to Geno and the Seahawks and to Stevens, one of his teams.

The other team, the Browns. Jacoby Brissett's a guy. I was saying to him whenever he was with the Colts, he's now with the Cleveland Browns. Good team around him. Go get a big-time win against Carolina Panthers off of Cade York's foot. Now, the Cleveland Browns are announcing after being undefeated going into the season, new quarterback, new era, new logo

on the middle of the bronze field. They're putting a fucking elf on the field. It is on there right now. I believe the elf's name is Bronny the Elf. Big ears, little body, a lot of luck. That's what's going down in Cleveland. Right, AJ? Yeah, I guess.

I don't know. Why did they make this change? Because they wanted to usher in a new era. They got a new stadium coming. They got a new thing cooking in Cleveland. New quarterback. New team. We're going to go on a run. We might have moved on from Baker, but we're in a better spot.

Where are we? Bronny the Elf in the fucking middle of the field. Hell yeah. And there he is dancing on top look at me look at me the Elf is wobbling and waddling

around the field the drone footage is electrifying the Elf is giving a goddamn stiff arm to who we don't know probably the haters

that's what Cleveland's got going on right now they might win a goddamn Super Bowl because this Elf is going to be running wild all season in Cleveland. It is the most Mickey Mouse shit I've ever seen.

That thing fucking stinks. No. Like backyard football. That's an embarrassment to the league. If you're a Browns player, you're probably pissed. If I know anything about the Browns, things were going too well and they needed to do something to fuck it up. Come on. Jeez.

They're selling merch. I'm sure they're selling a bunch of merch with that fucking thing on it. Now, I did think that Cleveland was a gritty blue-collar city. Yeah. Now that they do have an elf in the middle of their field and an elf mascot, going to have to question a lot of things. That's on Rupp. Listen, Rupp and Stipe and everybody.

Listen, we're not getting into that. I'm just telling you what people are going to say. Okay? Many others from Cleveland. Kevin Costner from draft day. Yeah. How come they didn't put that dog that's walking around? That'd be sweet.

Good question. And it's a dog pound. They have a dog in the office. All the dogs in the crowd would chew up that elf and spit the elf out. I don't know, though. I kind of love Brownie the elf. Why? Because of the Heisman?

I mean, you talk about gritty. Santa rides them fucking elves harder than... Blue collar. Yeah, those blue collar sons of bitches cobbling shoes and stuff like that. That elf isn't... Yeah, but Brownie... Yeah, he looks like it.

Brownie fucking... You know what? He defected from Santa Claus down in Cleveland. I can't do this. I want to play football. That's what Brownie did. Okay, so we like him even more. No, I don't like a quitter. from Santa Claus down in Cleveland. I can't do this. I want to play football. That's what Brownie did. Okay, so we like him even more. No, I don't like a quitter.

It kind of fits in perfectly. It's not a quitter. It's a, hey, I'm going to take this blue-collar mentality, and I'm going to drop it in the biggest league of all time. Sorry about it, Santa. Sorry about it, Scott Calvin. I'm fucking out of here. You want me to make these little wood and plastic toys all day, every day?

You know what I want to do? Tote the rock around Cleveland, Ohio. Yeah. And that's what brownie's gonna do no brownie quit on the kids and you can't support that you gotta support the kids we try to get uh we try to get ears and boots on the ground what if he was fired from that he's a shitty worker from santa may have fired him no because he sucks at work yeah no i No, I heard Santa's a Baker Mayfield guy. Is that right? So whenever, you know, that makes sense because he is a kid. What's your deal?

Sorry, I forgot he's a Panther. Carolina, he fucking played really good on Sunday. He did. He didn't play that well. He has matured a lot. He's a fucking fiery leader. Alright, let's just ask. Do you think in the past the Cleveland Browns, a 58-yarder goes in to win the game? Or do you think maybe that lucky little elf shows up

and Cade York is shaping shots with a draw from 58? That would have been good from 90 if he had to hit that thing. Rookie, mustache, bombing balls. You don't think Brownie the Elf is potentially a coinkydink? You're 1,000% correct that in the past that would not have gone in because that was their first win in week one in 17 years.

Brownie the Elf! Boom! Brownie doesn't travel to away games. If anything, that was the Panther hopping around the stadium causing a fucking wind effect. Wait till you see what the Browns have. You think Brownie the Elf paint and Brownie the Elf mascot is something? Wait till you see what the Browns have. You think Brownie the Elf paint and Brownie the Elf mascot is something? Wait till you see his little fucking ass in 4D bouncing around like that Panther was in Carolina.

He's going to be dangling on the goalpost. Yeah, he's going to be hanging. Laughing like David Sampson. Yeah, exactly. So did Baker have him locked in the basement when Baker was living there, and now he's allowed out? Yeah, that's potentially a thing. He was working.

Baker had him working, and now he gets to live and free and celebrate. I'm happy for him. They need to throw some fucking eye black on Brownie, and then we're in. People are talking about ball security as well. Let's zoom back in on him. He's pretty shitty to me. What do you mean? Oh, he's toting that thing like a loaf of bread.

Yeah, what a clown. Brownie is a bitch. He's fast. He's not a in on him. He's pretty shitty to me. What do you mean? Oh, he's toting that thing like a loaf of bread. Yeah, what a clown. Brownie is a bitch. He's fast. He's not a bitch, man. Brownie is a bitch. He's going to run your fucking ass over. He wishes Brownie's a fucking elf. They're like this big.

Look, this is the size of Brownie. You think I'm worried about this little fucker carrying a football like a loaf of bread? No. That's an ugly gnome. Which is the same thing as an elf. No. Yeah. You think he's holding that ballome. Which is the same thing as in health. No. You think he's holding that ball weird. You can't say what you just said.

With those shoes, you think that brownie's going to be burning without cleats on his feet? Come on. Aerodynamic you asshole. He's got no traction. Doesn't need it. He's got sweet fingies though. All the home games, swinging Deshaun Watson's towel around his head, firing up the crowd.

All right. That's the show. Gross hands, too. Thanks for the call, Steven. Honestly, thanks for the call. What's that? I don't know if you can call it show. I mean, you didn't talk about the sweet special team situation here in this city.

What happened? They fired the Lego guy. Yeah. Well, Hot Rod, I do apologize. You had a hell of a run here. What happened? They fired the Lego guy. Yeah. Well, Hot Rod, I do apologize. You had a hell of a run here. What happened? Well, he kicked two kickoffs out of bounds, one of them being to start the overtime period,

and then he missed a 40-yarder way, way, way, way, way wide right. I assume he knew that the writing was on the wall. He was in a competition in training camp. I love Hot Rod. He's always been very nice to me. I thought he got stronger. He was hitting balls better. He did not have a good first outing.

They are moving on. Who knows who they're going to bring in. Yesterday, the Amendola got signed to the Chiefs, who had a kicking carousel competition that consisted of six kickers. Six kickers went in there and worked out for one job. This is the kicker carousel that you get on. Then you make a team off of one of those workouts. Hopefully you get hot and you

live there forever. You get cold, they're having another one of these workouts that has the who's who. Cameron Dicker, Elliot Fry, Chase McLaughlin, Cody Parkey, Tristan Vizcarra, Vizcarra, Vizcarra, and Matt

Amendola. How jacked is this dude? Jacked. He's from Missouri. How jacked is this dude? Jacked. He's from Missouri or Oklahoma State. Oklahoma State, maybe. Yeah, he is a problem. He murders the ball, too. So hopefully this will be a home for him for the long term. But, yeah, man, the kicker carousel is no fun.

There'll be another workout next week somewhere, and they'll see the same guys. Rodrigo will jump in now, won't he? Yes. Or he'll take some time to fix some things, and then he'll say, all right, I'm back, and then the same guys go to every workout. Whoever has the best day gets the job. You get hot. You keep your job.

You don't. Everybody else is coming in the next week, and that's life like a kicker who has a one-year deal with teams. So you think the Colts are just going to get one of those remaining five guys? Or another guy that maybe didn't go work out who's fixing something. Like Verdi, the guy who maybe they had in camp. Exactly. He might have figured some stuff out. Paisan, though, Vinny Vizcano.

That would be pretty sweet to bring him in. I'm okay with another Italian coming in. What was that? The amount of Italian talk from you. It's just, it's overwhelming People that don't watch this program Think you're really Italian, I would imagine Well, of course

Oh, then they see that And they're like, oh, is there some poop on here? You must not have taken it off this morning Whoa Nope, he did Every time You told us that Listen, poop on your fingernails

You get it, you listen to it every single day You don't want to get poop on your fucking pinky ring, okay? Yeah, listen. Make another song. I got poop on my pinky ring. Poop on my pinky ring. Tell me how to fix it. You take off your pinky ring.

You take off your pinky ring. So then it doesn't end up in your sphincter. Yeah, but. Get it? Thank you. I think I'm making the right decision. TM, TM. I'm respecting the pinky ring. Yeah, absolutely.

Anytime this thing's going splunking, okay, we need to make sure it's clean and ready to go. And what I've been doing on the weekends, it is, you know, it's not like a fun job. Yeah, it's one thing if You're taking like Little rabbit poops But when you're fucking Dropping nuclear missiles Like yeah You take that thing off Have I figured out

My diet for the season The weekends Crushing food Okay Week keto There you go Do it It's been working

I don't think I've gained Low carb diet Sounds great Get a haircut every week So it looks like I'm Keep it fresh Figured it out Look at me Look at you losing it. Keep it fresh. Figured it out. Look at me.

Look at you. Look at us. Who would have thought? Figured it out. It was a good Tuesday. Let's get the fuck out of here. Hammer Down is in 10 minutes at youtube.com forward slash hammer down. I believe there's a link in the chat right now to direct you directly to that show.

We'll be in the Thunderdown hopefully next week this time. Having a great time. Big thanks to Aaron for joining us. Rex Ryan and Jordan Poyer, friend of the program. Need to have him on more. AJ, you were great. Boys, you were fantastic. Tone Diggs, I love you, buddy.

Love you. Connor, what's the giveaway for today? Oh, I mean, we talked about it earlier. I think it was what should the Browns mascot be instead of Brownie, right? Didn't we want to tweet that? Hashtag PMS ART is back. Hashtag PMSART is back. Hashtag PMSART is back. And say something nice to that elf that is now the centerpiece of the Cleveland Browns Stadium.

Or say something nice to somebody else. Make sure you put your cash tag in there and screenshot right now. All right. Say something nice to somebody maybe the elf took quite a beating today from gnome lover uh boston connor put your cash tag in there would have been sick. Mark the Elf. The elf's name is M-A-R-K. We hate seeing him every day. We'll put him on the field in some brown paint. And we're going to lose every fucking game.

Because Mark the Elf is here to stay. What was that hashtag again? Hashtag PMSARTISBACK. ART Aaron Rodgers Tuesday. PMS Pat McAfee Show. We apologize to other people. I'm sorry that's my name. You know?

I'm sorry the name of the show is PMS. So, what are you going to do? Sorry. Yell at Sally and Tim. Sorry that menstrual art is back. It's big these days. No, see, that's... Can't do that. You can't do that.

No, we do not. Maybe. Menstrual art? That's the problem. This show, that is the problem. We're not mocking anything. It just so happens the problem. That's the problem. This show is the problem. We're not mocking anything. It just so happens to be the name of the show. We apologize that for a long time for

I guess half the people in the world not great. If it means anything to the show, also not great. But it does happen to have the same. Hashtag PMSART is back. Say something nice to somebody. Put your hashtag in there. Utilize the screenshot from before. You could potentially be one of 20 winners of $500.

And big thanks to everybody for joining us. You're the best. Say something nice to somebody. Goodbye.