The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 743 - Monday Night Football Recap, Aaron Rodgers Tuesday Season 3 Week 2, LaDainian Tomlinson, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: September 20, 2022

On today’s show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about last night’s Monday Night Football doubleheader, if the Bills can get any better, if the Titans are dead, how good this Eagles team could be, pumping the breaks on the Vikings, and all the other takeaways from the games. Joining the progrum to chat about the changes in usage of Running Back’s in today’s NFL, his thoughts on the games last night and the league as a whole so far, and everything else around the league is Hall of Famer, former MVP, 5x Pro Bowler, 6x All-Pro, Walter Payton Man of the Year, and current NFL Network Analyst, LaDainian Tomlinson (33:22-55:12). Later, Super Bowl Champion/MVP, 4x NFL MVP, 10x Pro Bowler, 5x All-Pro, the proprietor of the Aaron Rodgers Book Club, Aaron Rodgers joins the progrum to chat about this week’s big win over the Bears, how he feels the offense is coming along, why the Bears rivalry is so important, the impact of getting some of the injured guys back, and much much more before he unveils a new book in the Book Club (1:26:06-2:29:05). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people. It is Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, September 20th, 2022. And this dumb sports show, live from the Thunderdome, starts now. Football! It is all the way back. Week two of the NFL season has been completed with a lovely twofer on Monday Night Football. I did not love that I had to flip back and forth between ESPN and ABC. Did not love that both games became absolute blowouts and pretty dominant, but I did enjoy the fact that we had NFL football all goddamn

night. Now, if you stayed up to the end of that Vikings-Eagles game, congrats to you. I'm very proud of you. If you watched the end of it this morning, like some of us did, also completely understandable. We'll talk about those two games in beautiful fashion today. We'll break down all thefl standings and talk about some college football going in knoxville tennessee this weekend oh here we go hey florida traveling to tennessee can't wait for that

and uh as usual we'll have aj hawk here we have like danny and tomlinson joining us in about 22 minutes or so he's all the famer works for the n And A.Q. Shipley will be live right here on this stage, chit-chatting about a brand-new segment called In the Trenches, breaking down some offensive hurt play. Hell, yeah. Offensive line play. Sorry, no, no, just offensive. Oh, it is offensive.

Right. But it's from the trenches, from the big guys, from the offensive line room. Cannot wait to hear how that goes. Normally, I'd introduce the talks to the table first at Boston Corner, at Ty Schmidt. I will certainly do that. Boys the table first at Boston Conrad, Ty Schmidt. I will certainly do that. Boys, you look fantastic. Thank you, Pat.

Thank you. Let's go to the room in the back, though. Let's go to Evan Foxey. Let's go to. I can't switch to our camera back here right now. Yeah, we got switched right before the show. So my phone's got switched. Don't have our camera back here.

Can you guys hear me, by the way? Yes, we can hear you. I was actually going to ask in the back, like, how's the audio sound? Because yesterday, we went for an entire hour to start the Thunderdome era. Yep. Hour ends, we go to break. Thought, fucking, we did it.

Yeah. Yeah. Unbelievable. Shot one in, shot one in, everything. Shot one in. Then I watched the video back of the shot, and it's the most despicable sounding thing we've ever put out in the entirety.

Yeah, in tennis. So there's a lot of questions about how were we not told about that for an entire hour of how that took place. It got fixed. Now can't get to Foxy. But this is what the Thunderdome era is going to bring. Some adversity. Some things to go through.

Probably moved in here about two weeks too early. Maybe. Probably could have given him another two weeks or so to really settle in. But this place is too nice for us not to take advantage of. Don't you think, Ty? No, come on. It's unbelievable. And also, we mentioned it yesterday.

Who's to say in the two weeks that either, you know, one of our throats doesn't get slashed downtown or, you know, our tires don't get punctured or something like that. It was time. It was time. Yeah, you know, there may be some things that we still need to work out here. But time was running short on downtown, and we needed to get up here. I blocked about 40 to 50 people last night.

Nice. Yeah. A lot of bitching and complaining. Yeah, just people who are smarter than everybody. Sure. Have it all figured out. Oh, yeah, a lot of that going around. Have it all figured out.

And I appreciate how much people care about this program, and I appreciate how much people want to make it appear as if they know what the fuck they're talking about. Yesterday was a shit show. Right before we got live, as we were live apparently, I thought we snuck by. And then afterwards, still trying to figure it all out. We do appreciate all of the criticism and feedback. But if you're a no-talent-having motherfucker, go ahead and keep that in the chamber.

Because I will scour through your Twitter, see if you're a person that I should be listening to. And if you're not, I just blocked you. And normally I mute people, but I don't want those people to win any of the contests that you guys have worked your ass off to do as well. But I love it. I mean, we golfed yesterday, four holes. Took a long time.

Golf swing wasn't fantastic. I believe we'll be streaming rounds probably on our Twitch. I think we're going to start a Twitch up to do that. Simulator's awesome and camera's back. That a baby Foxy. Here we go. Look at that. There's Doug on the right side.

Look at him standing over Foxy's shoulder. Yesterday at this exact time, he was over here filming from his phone. So that's good news. Dougie's been a hell of a tag team partner for everybody in the back. As has Vig, Deepak, and our guy, Paulie B, who's been working here. Once again, we'd like to remind everybody, we hired a guy named Petro. We have not seen him at all. Got a nice email from him last night, though, saying he's overseeing it all.

Oh, okay. It wasn't the queen. The queen died. Yeah, the queen passed away. He wasn't here before then or during that. And he's got a brand-new tattoo because the queen died. Really? Yeah, he's living the good life, the high life.

We paid him. He brought us this all-star cast, which we're thankful for. But it's been an entire scene, and we're thankful for everybody's patience through yesterday's first hour. I would not have listened. No. Yeah, staticky. I listened to that shot that went in, pumped about.

Not sure how many more of those are going to go in, by the way. First try, too. First try goes in. I thought we fucking hit a home run. I know. Because the amount of, like, buttons and cords that were being plugged in before we went live yesterday, like, classic, classic production by us.

Yeah, 25th hour. You can move into a multi-million dollar facility that you built from scratch, and it can still somehow not be fit for you, and it can still not be able to work, and we've got to figure it all out. So as soon as we go live and we go off, I go, we fucking did it. We did it. Perfect. We did not do it. We did not do it.

But anyways, it'll get better, especially on this Aaron Rodgers Tuesday. Can't wait to talk to Aaron later in the show,, you know, it's going to be a little bit more upbeat. You know, not that he wasn't upbeat and calm last week, but this week, I mean, they beat the dog shit out of the Chicago Bears. And there was an ayahuasca celebration with Alan Lazard. Going to have to dive into that because he reacted to the ayahuasca differently than everybody else. Other guys drank it and passed out and laid down he actually came alive because the uh plant god kind of kind of hit him in the middle of the field the bears had no opportunity no chance especially if he's getting a dose of ayahuasca in the middle

of the game from alan lazard the bears might as well just quit just like i'm not gonna say it whoa oh come on i'm not gonna do it you can say it might as. Oh, come on. I'm not going to do it. You can say it. Might as well. The refs? Is that what you're going to say? No. They let down James the Brown Bear from the Chicago. They did. Jim.

Jesus. Jim, yeah. Formerly James. Full name James. Formerly James, yeah. Friends call him Jim. Yeah, right. Birth name James.

They let down that Brown Bear going into Green Bay and lose him for the 105th time or something like that. Yeah. Which I do believe Green Bay is keeping track of. But whenever you see Aaron taking shots, I was out of a football and him coming alive and everybody passing out, we all knew that was all she wrote. Can't wait to chat with him and see what type of mindset he's in right now.

Ty Schmidt. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, and you can say what you want, but he's said it to us in the past. Like the Bears games kind of do just mean a little bit more. You know, it's one of the oldest oldest maybe the oldest rivalry in the NFL and you talked about it yesterday him talking to Justin Fields last year and saying like hey cherish this because like you know not every not every rivalry in the NFL not every teams that have a rivalry like it isn't Packers Bears like I'm I'm glad that those guys and they didn't play great they didn't play

their best football he kind of admitted that. He said, you know, like the stats were a little bit misleading. The offense still wasn't as, you know, where we need to be or where we're going to be. But you knew that they were going to get up for the Bears game. Oldest rival in the NFL. It means a lot to him. Sunday night football. Like, I'm glad that they kind of, they answered the bell and responded.

Yeah, and LaFleur and Aaron tied a no together after a loss. A lot of losses. Uh-oh. tied a no together after a loss. Unbelievable. A lot of losses. Uh-oh. I mean, that's a lot of losses. You know, if you become 10-0 after losses, that's a lot of losses. But in the grand scheme of things, there's some coaches that have a lot of losses and still have jobs, and we don't really talk about it.

We just kind of skim over it. But let's talk about a couple teams last night that just fucking demolished teams. Yeah. Unbelievable. I don't know which game we should start with. I guess we could just go with the Buffalo Bills because what the Buffalo Bills did to the Tennessee Titans last night was rude. Yeah.

I mean, it was absolutely cruel and unusual punishment for the formerly number one team in the AFC. Yeah. The coach of the year, Mike Frabel, I actually bet Titans plus 10 because 10 feels like a lot of points for a primetime game, especially on a monumental occasion where there's two Monday Night Football games. The number one team in the AFC last year, coach of the year, going on the road to a very tough Bills mafia.

That place was deafening. I mean, they were having a good time. Von Miller got to experience it for the first time in his career as a member of the Bills. He chatted about how fantastic it was. There was no Bills. No, there's no Bills. So we kind of got a little question. Did they lose their edge or not?

But they go in there to Buffalo and get their asses beat. This Buffalo Bills team might go on to be the greatest of all time. That's what it certainly appears like here early. First against the Rams, last night against the Titans. Those are two formidable foes if you look at last year's records and outcomes. And it didn't seem like the Buffalo Bills slowed down at all. Josh Allen has a 56 yard flick of the goddamn wrist right in the bucket to stefan diggs this in the third quarter they're already up

10 but whatever this type of stuff is happening at ease in week two and they seem to be on the exact same page every single day thus stefan diggs is maybe going to have 700 yards because in the first half first quarter he was wide open all the time the The Titans know that Stephon Diggs is a weapon. They knew Gabe Davis probably wasn't going to play, so Stephon's going to eat. Somehow they weren't able to stop him. You know why? Brand-new offense coordinator Ken Dorsey might be better than fucking Dayball,

and Josh Allen might be better than Josh Allen was last year when we thought he couldn't get better. This Bills team on defense, Vaughn Miller's made them better. Poyer's still on track to have 17 interceptions this season. We love Poyer. He's incredibly handsome. 17 interceptions this season. We love Poyer. He's incredibly handsome. Great guy. Incredibly handsome.

Incredibly fucking handsome. Cool merch. Cool merch. He's dropping a shoe line today. But whenever he gets on the field, dog. Captain of the Bills defense alongside Micah Hyde gets his second pick in two games on track to do 17. And with what Von Miller's helping them do in the front and the boys in the back, Tredavious White going full seat.

I mean, are the Buffalo Bills stoppable at Boston Corner? You've seen a lot of this team. That pick was insane. Do you think this team's stoppable? Right now it's hard to say. Have they peaked too early is really the only conversation you can have about this fucking Bills team. Yeah, I mean, there's definitely a case to make, like,

oh, they're playing their best football too early, but then you hear Von Miller talk after the game like, yeah, we have a bunch of killers on this team. team like we don't care if we're up by 30 the next drive we're going to go out and try and score again we're not slowing down at all and like you said you know they have guys that go out i think they're missing ed oliver and maybe jordan phillips another d tackle no problem next guy up gabe davis is out no problem next guy up it just feels like that they have the depth the defense the special teams obviously the No problem. Next guy up. Gabe Davis is out. No problem. Next guy up. It just feels like that they have the depth, the defense, the special teams,

obviously the offense, and probably the MVP, Josh. Zito, go into the group text if you still can with the tech ability we have. And Vaughn Miller talking about the organization that they have. Yeah. He breaks down this entire clip from everything, everybody in the building. He's been in a couple different places, he's been in a couple different places one super bowl in a couple different places this is von miller directly after the game talking about his experience as a member of the buffalo bills listen to these glowing reviews of a man who's already won two super bowls at two different programs two programs that people talk about

being run like pro bowl in really high class. Listen to what he has to say about the Buffalo Bills in old Western New York. 17 weeks, and, you know, football is a humbling sport. You know, you're going to be met with adversity at some point, and we just keep preparing for that adversity. You know, whenever we're up, we keep saying to each other, like, don't blink, don't let our foot off the gas. Like, it's a killer instinct. It's a blood-in-the-water instinct.

And, you know, I don't know how it was before I got here, but now, like, we pedal to the metals. We have an attitude of domination. You know, we're not playing the game to just win the game. We're playing the game to dominate the game. And we got a team full of killers, man, and it's led by, you know, our quarterback, you know, our head coach, you know, the leadership on this team, you know, from Brandon Bean all the way down to the janitors and the infrastructure of this team.

Like, our cafeteria ladies are just so great. You know, everybody that helps out with this team from, you know, Nate and the athletic training staff to, you know, the equipment guys, Eric Ciano. Like, everybody has their hand in this, man. And we just want to take it one player at a time. Like, the Super Bowl is just so far away. There's so many things that can happen. We want to focus on the now, you know, and success leaves clues. And all the successful teams before us, they just take it one game at a time.

And that's what we're trying to do. So like when you talk about culture, that is what you talk about. Yes. You talk about the entire building buying in, the entire building being on the same page. He's talking about the fucking lunch ladies. The cafeteria ladies here are awesome. They're always so happy. The food's amazing.

It makes me feel better about myself. Everybody from Brandon Breen down to the damn janitors. Vaughn Miller's cutting a promo about everybody. Eric Solano, I know who he is. He's fucking great at what he does in the equipment room, though, in the athletic training room. This is just a guy who's been there for like two months, three months. He said this is what a guy who's been there for like two months, three months. He said, this is what a winning culture feels like. So you have to give a

lot of credit to not only McDermott, who's been able to kind of steady the storm and done it, Brandon Bean, but them together. From the beginning, they had Tyrod Taylor. Made the playoffs. Made the playoffs with Tyrod Taylor. He said, see, get the fuck out of here. We're going to build. Listen,

we like you. We appreciate you. And what you're about to go through in football, you're not even going to remember this. This is not even going to be a thing. You're going to go to Cleveland. There's going to be a Baker train that's going to come through. Turns out that's not going to work out for them either. You're going to go to the Chargers. You're going to get a golf tee stabbed into your lung like 15 minutes before a game against the Chiefs,

the reigning Super Bowl champs, and you're playing really well. And then Justin Herbert's going to come in, and guess what? He's fucking going to be awesome. You're never going to play again. So Tyrod Taylor, we apologize for having to do this. You led us to the playoffs. Get the fuck out of here. We're rebuilding.

We're drafting a guy with massive hands with massive upside. He's going to suck his first year, and McDermott and Bean aren't going to even waver. Second year, he's going to get a little bit better. They're still going to stink. We're going to stick with them. There's going to be veteran quarterbacks aren't going to even waver. Secondary is going to get a little bit better. They're still going to stink. We're going to stick with them. There's going to be veteran quarterbacks that are going to become available. And Bean and McDermott say, nah, we're empowering our guy.

We're going to load up around this guy. We're going to take every opportunity we can to make this team better, and we're going to go for it. Now they're reaping the benefit of their patience. They're reaping the benefits of the culture they put in. They're reaping the benefits of the players they brought in who have been absolutely impactful look at imagine that team without stefan dicks you can't he wasn't on that fucking team he was on the vikings where he couldn't do right remember that the vikings it did not get along at all now he's superstar in

buffalo alongside josh allen i can't help but just applaud the bills for their patience their culture building and their vision now not going to be able to happen in a lot of other places. It takes a lot of fans just buying in and understanding that the future's brighter. And it takes a lot of days where you're being told you're the dumbest motherfucker on earth, probably, being in McDermott both. But now they're in a situation where you can bring in a vet, and the vet's like, hey, this place, this is a winning program. And if you're in the AFC East, you ought to be scared to death, Boston Card.

Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, especially with the Dolphins, too, it's not even like there's one juggernaut. Now it seems as though there might be two with Mike McDaniel, and, you know, I won't even get into the rest of the AFC. But, yeah, I liked what Von Miller said about the successful teams leave footprints. I think he's talking about Bill Belichick and the Patriots,

and that's kind of what McDermott and Brandon Bean have done is they went that method, empower a quarterback, just like New England did with Tom Brady for years. You guys are saying, hey, we're paying you less. No, that was the narrative. I won't get into other narratives of Brady and Tampa that we could dive into, because I wouldn't be counter. Hey, he's not dead. It would just be no point to do it.

Thank you. I'll clap for myself on this one. I appreciate that, guys. Hey, don't strain your arm patting yourself on your back. Don't worry. I stretched right before, so I've been doing it all day. Hey, my arm's a little sore from us putting up the shots yesterday. A lot of shots.

A lot of shots yesterday. A lot. You also, you know, you got to figure out which shot you're going to use on which hoop you're going to use, which also, that can mess with the tension in your arm as well. I can talk about the hoop being tilted up on this. Tilted up being about 11 1⁄2, 12 feet maybe? If this was that movie Hoosiers where they bring out the thing, this one probably sitting a little bit higher, but they'll say it's a 10

because the front of the rim is bent up, which makes us better shooters. Yes. This is a lethal shooter trick shot every time we shoot. So, Cardi set this up? Yeah, it feels like this was a carnival setup, yeah. Which is only going to make us better. That's rightival setup. Yeah. Which is only going to make us better. That's right. Exactly. Thunderdome's only going to make us better. Adversity. That's what it's all about.

We're going to be unbelievable basketball players, shooters like Lethal Shooter at the end of this. But no, Bills, you know, they run the AFC East. There's a chance they might run the NFL, you know, come February. But we'll see what happens. I would not bet against them for the rest of the year until they have some sort of wavering in their armor.

And the other team in that particular game was Tennessee Titans. Number one team in the AFC last year. Yeah. Coach of the year last year, Mike Vrabel. 90 different players. But they got everybody back. Yeah. Taylor LeJuan gets hurt last night.

We hope he's okay. Hasn't played a full season since 2017. Offensive line is a tough position. Tack was a tough position. Him going out obviously does not help the Tennessee Titans' cause. There was a graphic that made its way onto the Internet about teams that are scoring the most amount of points and then giving up the most amount of points.

You know, one of those quadrant things. Sure, sure, yep. Titans are not going to like where they are at because they're very near where the Colts are when it comes to scoring points and giving up points. They're way, way, way, way more than the median. The worst team defensively is the Cardinals, the Lions at this particular point, and then the Titans for giving up points.

And then further to the right you go on this graphic is the amount of points that you score. Further down is the amount of points that the other teams score. So where you don't want to be is lower left, where the Titans are sitting dead in the fucking middle of it. I don't know what has happened to them. Seems like they have maybe lost their way. Cardinals giving up a bunch of points, but they're scoring more than a median amount of points. Shout out to whoever made

this. I don't know. We should be giving credit to right behind there. They're not good at tagging their stuff. O-A-W-H-R-U-S. O-R's. Shout out at O-R's. O-R's. O-R's.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, O-R's. Thank you, O-R's. Jeez Louise. Nonetheless, do not want to be lower left on this graphic. As you can see where the Titans are living. And then the team that just fucking slaughtered them is on the complete opposite end of the spectrum.

That's kind of the tale of the tape. Let's move to the next game now. Vikings-Eagles. Fascinating stuff here because in the first game, Kevin O'Connell era for the Minnesota Vikings looked like it was going to be a fucking ha-ha. We are geniuses. We are smarter than everybody.

Kirk Cousins, new haircut, new bod. Yoked up. Justin Jefferson doing a gritty still, but now he's getting a lot more attention as being the guy because he's been a game wrecker since he stepped into the NFL. Obviously, he didn't get drafted before Rager or other rookie wide receivers at the time. He was drafted late, ends up in Minnesota.

Kirk Cousins and he have become a dynamic duo, especially in week one where they went for over 200 yards against the Packers. Wide open, a lot. Adam Thielen, still a guy. We absolutely a lot. Adam Thielen, still a guy. We absolutely love him. Dalvin Cook, still a guy. We absolutely love him. Defense, add Smith onto the team from the Packers.

Has Harrison hit Snake Smith, who I think, did something happen to him last night during the game? I don't think so. He might have got banged up, but I think he came back. I don't think it's serious or anything like that. He's a stud. They got Pat Still. I mean, they have a bunch of names all over that roster,

and we thought maybe this was going to be the year in the NFC North that the Vikings are going to say, this is our house. Yeah. The NFC North runs through. Score. I won't do it. Can't do it. Score.

Score. Score. Score. Score.. Skull. Skull. Skull. Skull. Skull. Skull. Skull.

Skull. It's not. It is not, it feels like. The Vikings potentially same old Vikings up and down, or maybe the Eagles are just fucking dogs. They made Kirk Cousins look like Kirk Cousins from like three, four years ago. We thought Kirk Cousins has maybe grown into an absolute savage because he has won in primetime

games. And in week one against the Packers, he was slinging it all over the place, sitting in the face of adversity, big-time shots, delivering the rock. They were doing their thing. He and Kevin O'Connell, the first offensive coach he's had since becoming a Minnesota Viking, this guy's going to empower him. Although the GM said, we don't have Patrick

Holmes or Aaron Rodgers. We got fucking lazy ass, bum ass Kirk Cousins. He said that literally day one of training camp, it felt like the offense was going to really suit for Kirk Cousins' needs. Last night, I don't know if Kirk Cousins sucks or if the Eagles' defense is just that much better. Slay feasted. Slay had a wide open pick that was tossed to him like it was a punt return. But in the fourth quarter, up 24-7, one-on-one with Justin Jefferson.

Just moments after waving off the sideline because he had a little bit of a limp, they were going to take him out because it is a red zone. He says, nah, Slay is a Slay maker, a playmaker. Two picks for that Eagles defense. Jalen Hurts seemed to be unstoppable. This team is fucking awesome to watch. And Coach Sirianni is maybe the reason why for building this culture in Philly that we all mocked at one point because the way he was doing it

was a little bit different than we had heard in the past. Seems like they've got teams. They've got a team and a bunch of players that kind of fit their mold, and that Eagle squad might be on a fucking terror in the NFC East. Yeah, if Jalen Hurts can play like that, he's just so dynamic. I mean, that's what everyone said last year, like, this guy can't complete a pass. So if he, you know, if you can limit

what he can do in the run game, like, and you have to make him beat you from the pocket, he can't do it. He looked unbelievable yesterday. He did. He looked unbelievable. And adding A.J. Brown is, I mean, to go back to the Titans game, too, I know they always talk about Derrick Henry, like, you see how important A.J. Brown was to their offense.

Like, they lose him, and it's like, you know, you stop Derrick Henry, the game's over. Adding A.J. Brown for Jalen Hurts and Devonta Smith's got one more year. He's starting to, like, the Eagles are, they've been very, I mean, granted, it's two weeks into the season, but holy shit, they've been very impressive. And swag. Yeah, for sure. Very comfortable, very confident. And all of Philadelphia was going

bananas. Pauly B, the audio guy here, he obviously loves the Eagles. First thing he said this morning, go birds. Go birds. Go birds. D'Alessandro's. Eagles people are not a D'Alessandro's guy, or Pat's. Yeah, he said he likes...

I can't remember what he said, but he said... Brun what was it? I can't remember what he said, but he said he likes. Bruno's or something. Joe's. Joe's. Yeah. Joe's kind of stinks. He said Dahls Andres is okay, so he knows.

He understands. But the Philadelphia Eagles fans have to very much appreciate where they're at because people say he can't throw, made some big-time passes. A.J. Brown opens up the box, though. Look at this run that Jalen had last night where he he hovers from the six yard line now the score of the game 14-7 second quarter this is about when people are about to start fall asleep last night because there's two games on it was very late great blocking by goddard gets tackled oh oh he said from like the five and everybody started pointing out this is why i do

600 pound squats this is why you do this this is why you get a guy who's an absolute fucking dog like there's a lot of people that maybe go down here, especially at the quarterback position. Jalen Hurts says, nah, nah, nah. Just like I was run out of Alabama and people thought I was going to stink. I'm going to hover into the fucking end zone and put this thing in its full two score game. This Eagles team is electrifying. They're fun to watch. Defense got a bunch of swag and hopefully Sirianni will have more press conferences. And on the flip side, the Vikings might be completely dead. We have no idea what to expect from them going forward.

And we should remember that when we're placing bets. Yeah, absolutely. I definitely do think, although Kirk Cousins won on primetime and won a playoff game, can't go betting on Kirk Cousins in primetime at any other point. The Eagles, it feels like, though, with them having an unbelievable D-line, unbelievable O-line, and Hurts running like that, it feels like they're a very complete team, too,

just like we were talking about with the Bills. Like, sure, you could say, oh, well, Hurts, you know, he just tucks it and runs. You had like 330 passing yards yesterday. Like, they can beat you in multiple different ways. And obviously, you know, maybe the Vikings week one, and that was kind of a fluke, and they aren't that good. But it feels like they're also a good team, and they got the doors blown off them by the Eagles.

Yeah, it's fascinating to kind of watch teams settle into what they are. Yeah. You know, like who's what? We don't know. We have no idea right now. Like the Packers. We'll talk to Aaron, obviously, in like two hours. Are they that second-week team?

We'd assume because history states that maybe they'll walk into a season and get their fucking asses beat. Right. And then they'll wake up and kind of do their thing. Looks like a team when Lazard's on the field, much different than whenever he's not on the field. Yeah. Looks like Adam Jenkins.

Maybe we get Bakhtiari back. Maybe that'll help out the whole thing. But I don't think anybody is like 100% sure what that team is going to become because Devontae's not there. Who knows what the future is going to look like? Nobody knows what this Vikings team is going to be. How about the Lions? They lose to the Eagles, right?

They make it a game late and everybody judges the Eagles. What if the Lions are a damn team? We have no idea if the Lions are a team. A.Q. Shipley is going to be here in a little bit, breaking down some in-the-trenches offensive line play that I think is going to make us better bettors because the big boys down underneath see the game from a different space. Cannot wait to hear that.

He said, hey, I like that Lions team. He said he likes the way the Lions team plays. He said schematically seems like they're potentially a squad. Fox, he's clapping and smiling back there. I don't know if AQ's just saying that because he's a former player that was a coach in the NFL, so he's just pulling for them. We've got to understand that there's biases. But there's a lot of teams where i'm not sure we have a clue what to know about them but in five weeks it might be like yeah this fucking team is different than

we've ever seen them before that is why the nfl season is such a process and that's why i'm enjoying every fucking game that comes on even if it's inconvenient to have two games on at the same time on a monday night yeah for sure and that's also why, you know, like, overreaction Monday and stuff like that is so fun because you really do ride the ebbs and flows so much. Like, every game, like, one week, you know, after that first week, I'm thinking, like, Jesus Christ, the Packers are going to go fucking 7-10 this year. Like, they're going to suck.

And then they come out and they look much better against the Bears. It's like, okay, yeah, they're a playoff team. They're going to win the division still. You have Tampa Bay next week. Like, you could be right back in that like i i don't think we really know anything until like week eight or so like early like teams are just figuring out what the hell's going on right there like with the vikings you think part of that is at least it seems like justin jefferson is so good but it seems like kirk cousins kind of just locks on to justin jefferson and like forgets theelands out there forget some of it and then just ends up like hey if I don't have a guy too that's what I

think they need to get him a little bit more involved like Justin Jefferson is amazing but it does seem like Kirk kind of just gets lasered in on him and you know that's when he starts forcing more throws or if he's not there the the entire play kind of just collapses and they don't have anything else to do. It's interesting to watch. We'll see how teams figure it out. First-time head coach. Yeah.

So KOC is going to have to figure this out, how to keep the boys in line. We'll run through some stats here before we're joined by Hall of Famer LaDainian Tomlinson. The AFC South currently combined one 5-2 record after two weeks. Here we go. Not bad. Juggernaut, bro. Everyone's in it still. Listen, the AFC South is a powerhouse,

and it's going to cannibalize itself because of how good it is. You know, and I thought the Colts were maybe going to go undefeated after week one because if they didn't lose that game to the Texans, they ain't ever going to lose. That's right. Then they got shut up by the Jags, and Frank Reich has said, like, yeah, all is fine. Players have said, yeah, all is fine.

And Frank Reich has said he's been very happy with Matt Ryan being a quarterback or whatever. So it seems like they got it all under control with some starters coming back. But from the AFC South, and then you look at the AFC as a whole, it is a glaring. Oh, yeah. It is a glaring, oh, this potential division stinks here. Terrible. But a lot can change.

By the end of the season, we might have a very different feeling on it all. Yeah, absolutely. But when you do look at the division, it's like, okay, we might have an NFC East on our hands here in the AFC now, and these four teams might be bad for a long, long time, especially when you're talking about the Colts, especially when you're talking about the Titans, because maybe

Ryan Tannehill will never recover from that Bengals loss, because we know he had to work through a lot of it, and thus far, it doesn't seem as though he's gotten over it. And then you look at the Jags, and you look at the Texans. I mean, they've got young quarterbacks, first-year coaches. Obviously the Texans are all 1-1, but the Jags are 1-1. They could be 1-5-2.

It's a tough look in the AFC, especially in the AFC. It's going to be very, very competitive. So maybe that just means a lot of teams will have losses, so we shouldn't be so down on it. But are they doing Malik chants in Tennessee, you think? I think so. I think everyone's fed up with that. Pittsburgh, they got Kenny chants happening.

San Fran, there was Jimmy chants happening. Obviously, Trey Lance out for the season, had success with surgery. Congrats to him. Yeah, baby, Trey. Another year, hopefully gathering some more NFL knowledge and learning the game through some mental reps. And then in Tennessee, they may be a Malik chance. Now, remember, Vrabel has pulled the trigger on a quarterback before in the past.

Mariotta was the starter there before Tannehill was. So, get the hell out of here. Mariotta wasn't bad. Not great. Wasn't bad. Get the hell out of here. An unproven guy that had come from somewhere else can become our starter. They go on.

Boom. Have great success. Will he do that again with Malik? I'm not bringing it up because that's very negative. I assume Vrabel will be patient. Vrabel said after the game, we've got to figure out a way to win games. Yeah. Hey, don't we all, Vrabes?

Yeah. Don't we all. Tom Brady has confirmed that Fitzmagic is not the that motherfucker that he was talking about. That's big news. Congrats to Fitzmagic. Wow. Big win. Although Thursday Night Football Amazon analyst and p. Congrats to Fitzmagic. Big win. Although Thursday Night Football Amazon

analyst and pundit Ryan Fitzmagic thought that he was that motherfucker because there was numerous times when Fitzmagic would be on another team, beat the Patriots, and Tom Brady would show zero respect for the Harvard bearded man. Tom Brady has come out and said, nah, nah, it ain't you. So yes,

yes, it is Derek Carr. Okay, thousand percent. Tom Brady didn't come out and say it is Derek Carr. It's Derek Carr, right. Okay, 1,000%. Tom Brady didn't come out and say it was Derek Carr, but now that we know via Dana White and Rob Gronkowski, an entire deal was made with the Las Vegas Raiders and Tom Brady. And John Gruden, who is now suing the NFL in a case that is going to open a lot of eyes, I think, for a lot of people, no longer the head coach. He's the one that said, nah, we're keeping our young quarterback.

This is the Derek Carr, John Gruden show. Not going to be the Tom Brady show. Now Tom inevitably goes to Tampa Bay, wins the Super Bowl year one. Gronk goes there. Antonio Brown goes there. All contribute to the success. Could have been the Raiders. But no, Derek Carr remains suspect number one to be that motherfucker.

The Tom Brady we'll never forget about, right? No. No, yeah, I'm sure he wouldn't forget about it. And I'm sure, like, week one, you know, this year when Carr throws three picks and fumbles, Brady's not sitting there just grinning ear to ear, almost gritting his teeth into dust, like, yeah, good, exactly. You wanted this fucking guy instead of me? I hope, you know, like, Tom's not the kind of guy who just lets that stuff go quietly into the night.

Like, he will remember that on his deathbed. There's probably some weird tattoo he has that only shows up whenever he used, like, some sort of app on the phone. And it's like, fuck Derek Carr. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. Hey, don't ever forget it. The night before he goes to bed, he opens up that flashlight on his phone that goes, fuck it, you're right. Yeah, I don't know what's going on with my family, but I do know one thing. Fuck Derek Carr.

Back to work. He was moving to Vegas, I bet. Can you imagine that offense, too? Giselle was ready. Giselle was ready to go to Vegas. We're going to Sin City. The whole family is going to Vegas. People are going to love to come visit. Got a deal done. John Gruden goes, nah, I want Derek Carr.

Tommy, you motherfucker. Are you sure? So not only does he goes, nah, I want Derek Carr. Tommy, you mother... Are you sure? So not only does he hate Gruden, he hates Derek Carr. Let's see the emails between John Gruden and Tom Brady. Those are going to come out potentially in the lawsuit that John Gruden has with the NFL if they go into discovery and everybody's emails, which is potentially on the line because there are 600,000 to 700,000 emails that are going to go through.

That lawsuit is going to get loud if it ever happens. Another little fact, police are investigating Kyler Murray getting smacked in the face. I don't think this is, I don't want to be like, this is tough. Old guy at the yard yelling in my front yard. But this is some of the softest shit I've ever seen if this becomes an actual criminal case. The video obviously has made its way around the internet. I believe a person with the last name of Cox was the one that shot it. Yeah, Cam Cox.

Kyler goes to celebrate with the Bottle Poppers, who are Cardinals fans, in the Wynn Suite area, I believe, behind the end zone, in which it is a nightclub with table service and bottle service, and they're having a great time. A couple Cardinals fans over there that he's dapping up, and somebody from the second row reaches over and hits him right in his left eye. Kyler Murray goes, wait a minute. That seemed like there was a little ill intent on that. So he gets back into the face of the old white that appears to be

the one that did it with the gray sides, and they have a little shouting match back and forth. And then I believe Kyler ends up walking away. They just got a huge win that there's no way they thought they were going to win. And maybe some negativity is drawn from this, but if this ends up being a criminal case, I think we will all have lost hope in a lot of things.

Now, should that person maybe apologize to Kyler? Sure. Maybe write Kyler a handwritten letter, maybe walk around town wearing a sign saying I'm a jackass that went to a football game and thought it was okay to slap a guy in the face. Maybe something like that. But criminal stuff, I don't think this is – no, Kyler's tough.

I love fucking Kyler. For sure. And I like Kyler as a human and as a person. This seems to be a little baby back bitch shit here. Don't we think a little bit? Yeah. I mean, also in a situation like this where the juices are flowing so much. That was the last play of the game.

The game ended right there. And, again, obviously no fan should ever fucking swing on a player or anything like that. But do you need to press charges? The Raiders could just be like, all right, that guy's fucking banned for life. I think that does the same thing. This fucking asshole won't be back at games, and you don't have to worry about anything else.

All right, keep drunk Frank out of the bottle service area. Obviously he's popping one too many bottles. They were spraying bottles onto the field at that place. So maybe Guy was a little bit too intoxicated. He should definitely not touch a player, but the whole police are investigating thing, it's like, Arrest this man! We got other shit to figure out, don't we?

And there are top 10 most wanted lists in Vegas, I'd assume. Let's go find those people and not worry about that type of stuff. Join us now. Here's the top 10 most wanted running back of all time. Hell yeah. Electrifying. Not only running, but catching. And whenever he scored, he celebrated in beautiful fashion with a little ball roll

that will forever be synonymous with not only Chargers, but the NFL as a whole. Currently a pundit and analyst for the NFL Network Hall of Famer, ladies and gentlemen, LaDainian Tomlinson. Hey! How are you guys? How are we, man? How are you doing? How are you guys doingian Tomlinson. Hey! How are you? How are we, man? How you doing? How you guys doing, man?

I'm great. How are you? Thank you so much for joining us. We're obviously big fans of yours. It's great to chat again, boss. Yeah, I'm a big fan of your show, man. Congratulations on that. You're doing some awesome stuff right there.

Well, I'll tell you what. Yesterday, we did a full hour and 20 minutes where he couldn't make out a word we're saying. So I think we are on the right path, but we're certainly taking steps backwards, which is something you've never done. NFL Network, you love it over there, LT? Yeah, I mean, it's been a really good transition for me, Pat. As you know, coming off the field, you know, you're kind of looking for something to, you know, I was 32 when I retired, man. You know, I had to, I couldn't just sit at home or play golf every day,

even though I love to play golf, no question about it. But at the same time, I wanted to continue to be around the game and kind of get out the house a little bit. And so it's been great. I've been doing it 10 years now. Wow, I can't believe that, but it's been great. Hey, happy 10-year anniversary, OTV hey happy 10 year anniversary we knew that we knew that obviously we sent you a cake it should be on its way nfl network has brand new studios you're very good hey you're very good on tv i i think everybody

enjoys the hell out of you when you were playing did you think you were going to get in the media or was it something that just kind of showed up after you retired and everybody hell no i didn't think i was going to get into the media you know pat i was really one of those guys that was like man i would never get on tv and talk about guys and you know all that kind of stuff because i understand it's hard you know the game is hard and you're going to make mistakes out there. So I've always approached, you know, my analysis more of constructive criticism. Like if I get on a guy, I'm going to try to also encourage that guy of what he can do better. And so I think, you know, that's been kind of my style. Of course, you want to say something sometimes to grab headlines.

And heck, I'm always a straight shooter. You ask me a question, I'm going to give it to you. And so that's also kind of my persona and the way I am. Well, we appreciate it. We enjoy it. I'm sure there's some players that hate it. I think for us, in the same vein that you're talking about, making it to the NFL is impossible. It's very difficult to do the amount of you know

hard work and i think sacrifice never gets talked about like whenever guys are up at like 5 a.m in high school running miles and miles doing push-ups as opposed to getting to go out with everybody like that little sacrifice that's happening throughout their entire high school career never gets talked about because it's kind of just like expected so i think making it to the nfl the amount people have had to give up and work and everything is impossible winning in the nfl is impossible but it's hard not to say somebody stinks doesn't i mean it is hard lt isn't it sometimes it's hard not to say like this team stinks even though i understand that they're not it's difficult lt yeah it is especially uh you know i think where the game has changed so much now

and you know i you know what i'm gonna tell you what perturbs me here we go i'm just gonna give it to you good work you know guys today like running backs for example for for one thing there are no more you know uh one one show running backs guys that did it all, you know, in my day. They're always guys, you know, I mean, Jonathan Taylor, Derrick Henry, you know, like they probably are guys to be the main guys. They don't need help. But the majority of the NFL now, you know, it's rotating guys. It's guys' specialist position.

And you still have guys that top off like one long run one catch there come get me like say it dude stay in there and i'm speaking honestly because i play fantasy football now so i'm going off the rails a little bit you know somebody fucked you huh somebody tapped out you need a couple more points. Yeah, yeah. Sick of it. It's almost like, I think it's more difficult for the running back as well. And tell me if I'm wrong. Some guys, like, I was lucky enough to be on a team with Frank Gore. Been around a long time.

And they were taking his attempts down to try to preserve him. But he was very much like, no, I need to, like, I need to feel, no, I need to feel the rhythm of the game. I need to feel the rhythm of it. And one of these is going to break. It feels like whenever they have a stable, there's a couple guys that are in every single play. Some guys can't get a groove either. Is that a good read, you think, or a bad read on the current status of how running backs are used in the NFL?

No, you're absolutely right. And especially if you are used to being a guy to get most in the NFL. No, you're absolutely right. And especially if you are used to being a guy to get most of the carries, because when you talk about a rhythm and a tempo, you do start to get that throughout a game. And a lot of times I know for me personally, I would set things up early in a game. Like I was staying in the A gap, staying in the A gap, even though I saw that linebacker starting to run over the top or starting to hit the A-gap too fast or just standing there where I can bounce it outside,

I'm going to continue to set him up because it's a rhythm, it's a tempo. Then all of a sudden in the fourth quarter or late in the third quarter, I'm going to make that cut. I'm going to make it because I've set him up the entire game. It's difficult to do that these days because you don't get an opportunity to as a runner. You don't get those chances to carry the football 20 times a game any longer. Do you think that's good or bad for the state of football? And do you think that will ever come back?

Now, once again, I'm stating Derek Henry, Mike Vrabel has been very committed to, hey, third down or third quarter. We're down 17. We're still going to run. There's still a benefit of our offensive line coming out and hitting. There's still a benefit of the defense having to tackle Derrick Henry. We can wear him down. We'll get him at some point. Do you think the game's going to come back around to that,

or do you think this position is potentially going to be changed forever as more of one scat back, one is a blocking back, one is a run up the middle back. Do you think that's just how the game is going to go and kind of evolve? I think so. I mean, you're going to always have. Yeah, but listen, Pat, you're going to always have special guys. Positions are going to be dead. Debo is going to be dead.

No, no. I don't think it's going to be dead. Debo is going to be dead. No, no. I don't think it's going to be dead, though, because you're going to always have special guys that you have to give the ball to. That's going to always be there. But football is evolving. It's becoming basketball on grass, you know, where you've got to create these mismatches, and you've got to, you know, try to get scheme guys open.

And that's what it's becoming and to be quite honest it's fun for the fans to watch you know this wide open game it's fun for the fans and being a lifetime fan pat as you you probably are growing up back in the day seeing the cowboys play you know win those titles in the 90s being a texan but it was four yards in a cloud of dust most of the time and then eggman would hit that play action and bang gate to michael irvin right that's that was football back then we're not gonna see that anymore not like that that is gone forever we now have 11 sets personnel that's four wide receivers, one back, shotgun most of the time. Let's do this RPO stuff. I grew up in Pittsburgh.

Jerome Bettis, the wheels on the bus went round and round. And it was like, it was almost marketed. Like, hey, we are a ground and pound team. We got this big dude who's going to run you over, but he's got quick feet. Hey, he's got quick feet. And then all of a sudden, it's either going to be Neil O'Donnell or Maddox or Cordell Stewart. They're going to hit for one or two throws. and then we're right back to the ground again. And I think there's some fans that are still calling for that in everywhere.

But the rules make it for the pass game to just be opened everywhere. Let's talk about some of the teams. Go ahead. No, I was going to say really quickly, that's the easiest way to win in an f in an nfl so if you're a team now let's say that a lot of falcons you know where they're struggling on offense you know maybe they're getting ready to go through a transition at the quarterback position you're going to probably like the best way to win games is to condense the game by running the football, trying to win time of possession, playing really good defense,

because you're not going to throw the ball 35, 40 times a game. You can't do that and win. The Cordero Patterson experience, he's supposed to be a running back his whole life, by the way. He was a wide receiver. Somebody screwed that up. Yes, he was a wide receiver in the running back era. Now he's a running back in the wide receiver era, and that up. Yes. He was a wide receiver in the running back era. Now he's a running back in a wide receiver era and he's fucking unbelievable.

He is electrifying to watch. Let's talk about some of these top teams last night. The Buffalo bills. I mean, it was a route that Titans team number one in the AFC just a year ago, head coach of the year in Vrabel. They lose the one. That's obviously a problem,

but that bills team, are they peaking too early? Is that the only negative? They're peaking too early. Is this team stoppable, you think? What do you think about how and why they got to where they're at, LT? Well, I think this Bills team is primed to make a deep run and possibly win a championship. What does it take to do that?

You've got to have the experience. You've got to get there. You've got to get there. You've got to be there, make deep runs, lose heartbreaking type of games, be able to come back from there, from that, with the core of your group. And they have a great core. Adding Von Miller to close out these games late in the fourth quarter is only going to help them. And it's going to come down to, as you know, Pat,

you're going to have to be lucky a little bit toward the end of the season with injuries. And also, we talk about weather. You know, if you're going to come to Buffalo, maybe they do want it to be cold as hell and snowing all over the place. You come to Buffalo, you're going to have to change up your game plan in order to play here. So all those things have to fall their way.

But I think there are some super talented teams in the AFC. So I believe whoever comes out of the AFC will probably win the championship because those teams in the AFC are going to beat the hell out of each other this season. You're talking about the AFC South more specifically, right? Yeah, like the Colts and the Texans and the Jags. Well, I'm talking overall AFC. No, yeah, no, you're talking about the AFC South. Yeah, the AFC South is what you're talking about.

Yeah. Hey, one, five, and two in two weeks, the AFC South. Everybody else in the AFC is good. AFC South stinks, it seems like. That's really what it seems like. Yeah, well, I'm concerned about I am concerned about the Titans. I am, you know, because when I look at playmakers on the outside, they don't have any man. You know, they got the young kid, Burks, I think is his name from Arkansas.

Yeah. And, you know, if you have to rely on the rookie then you're in trouble i'm just going to say that you're in trouble if you got to rely on the rookie at the wide receiver position to be your number one and i don't see much talent on the team you know except for derrick henry ryan tennant hill is solid you know he's a solid quarterback but can't he lift you absolutely not and then here's my issue on defense with Tennessee here's my issue they give up too many free yards man like I get the zone coverage and all they said last night they let Stefan Diggs catch everything underneath and then they let him get behind like how does that happen you give up everything underneath and then you let a guy run past you

and get behind you as well. So I think Tennessee is in real trouble. Heck, the Colts might still have – your Colts might still have a chance to come back and win that division. That's right. That's right. All word out of Colts camp, we're good. All fine.

24-0 on Jacksonville, all good. Don't worry about it. We get some – hey, that good. Don't worry about it. That's what's being said, LT. It is tough not to get on this microphone and be like, let's not say that. Just for the sake of public perspective, let's say not good, we lost 24-0 to the Jags,

but they're saying it's all good. The AFC South is going to be a dogfight, but the AFC as a whole is so talented. I like the battle-tested theory you have. Any team that comes out of the AFC as a whole is so talented. I like the battle-tested theory you have. Like any team that comes out of the AFC has been through it a lot. Battle-tested, ready to go. Let's talk about the NFC. A couple of the top teams before the boys have their questions for you, LT, and we appreciate you joining us. Aaron Rodgers, we talked to him here in a couple hours. From week one to week two looked drastically different. Was that the addition of Alan Lazard?

Was that the addition of Jenkins back on the offensive line? Or do you think sometimes it's just going to take a little bit to figure it out when you lose a guy like Devontae Adams? What are your thoughts there? Well, I think having Alan Lazard out there helped tremendously. I mean, that's a guy that Aaron Rodgers is familiar with. You know, he has a connection with him. And Aaron even said himself weeks ago that,

you know, this is a guy that I believe in. He's going to be the number one wide receiver. And, you know, he thinks he's going to have a terrific year. So I think that was part of it. But also getting Jenkins back, you know, you have to continue to protect Aaron Rodgers. So that's always good to get those guys in front of you back out there. But at the end of the day, it's still Aaron Rodgers, you know, consistently getting on those young guys, telling them where they need to be, how they need to do things, showing them examples of what he wants from them. And it's going to continue to build. They're going to get better. The great thing is they got two dynamic runners you know that's that's a great thing and

so um i think green bay in the end they'll be there they'll be right there 200 combined rushing yards between aaron jones and aj dylan aaron jones on for like 132 or something like that and then aj goes for another 68 hit a massive same game parlay on all of them having success i hope they continue uh to do that last Last question for me, Tom Brady still got it. Hey, still got it. How, how and why do you think you retired at 32? I retired at 29. Obviously I have a friend in Adam Vinatario once he was like 46. He's most competitive human of all time. I get it. But Tom Brady coming back, still having that fuck you bitch, right? Like still has that. How do you think? Do you think that's just something you're born with

and you either got it or you don't? How long do you think he goes for? Well, I think Tom Brady might be the most disciplined athlete of all time. You know, we talk about him being a goat. But think about it, Pat. You know this. Think how hard it is to keep that discipline up, the off-season work that you put into it,

to continue to be in shape your mind to be great that arm is still strong he's still throwing the ball freaking great like it's unbelievable so i'll say the off offseason dedication that he's shown uh with the the whole body stuff and being dedicated to his body. And I would like to know, you know, how much freaking money he spends on his body. I mean, that's what I would – because LeBron does the same thing. Yeah, LeBron's at like a million a year. LeBron spends a million a year. Is that Russ that spends a million a year?

Tom's got Alex Guerrero. What? He lives like with him. Yeah. He actually has. Yeah, Alex used to be my guy as well this is san diego and i knew how much i was paying him oh you had alex too yeah because i think people forget that they had um they had like fleets because vinatieri had some of guerrero's guy that came out and worked in

indy for a couple days you guys had that in san diego as well i didn't know that yeah yeah so i actually met alex guerrero through keen Keenan McCardell a long time ago. I had this injury. Keenan had worked with him for years. See, Alex started out flying around. He had guys that he saw. Those were his guys. He would fly to different cities after the game and spend a couple of days with guys just working on them.

And I had a serious injury one time and keenan hooked me up with alex and you know i pretty much stole him at that at that point for the rest of my career man i put him on the payroll hey that's what everybody did i think that's what everybody did whenever they got a chance to work with this pliability and uh the muscle the muscle massages that because vinitary was like hey i will pay for your first session because i was told the price much like you probably were and i was like i ain't paying a fucking for your first session. Because I was told the price, much like you probably were, and I was like, I ain't paying a fucking guy that amount of money to come in. I'm just

fine. No, it's going to make you better. And I should have listened to Vinny, obviously. I should have listened. But the next day after the guy worked on me in my house, muscles in my body that I didn't know I had were sore. They were rolling it out, working it out. The pliability is a real thing. The avocado ice cream that

Tom has kind of brought into it, just going to he stole it from everybody now. So Tom and there was other, I assume you were even pitching your team like, hey, we should pay this guy to only work for us. I know in the Colts that was happening. I assume other teams it was happening. And then Tom was able to make it happen with the Patriots. And that's all

she wrote. But you're right. The food discipline, the drink discipline, the time management discipline, the mental focus discipline, he has to be the most disciplined guy in the history of sports. And, dude, I'm telling you, I mean, at 32, I was just about burnt out. I don't know how you felt at 29, but I was just like, I'm freaking tired, dude. Like, offseason, like, can I take some more time off? Is it time to go back already? know how you felt at 29 but i was just like i'm freaking tired dude like off season like can i take some more time off is it time to go back already you know like how does this dude do this

it's incredible he loves the game that he loves the game they say lt that's why so many people retire you know first day of training camp first week of training camp they're like i enjoyed what i was doing yesterday not again not loving what i'm doing today get me out of here but we appreciate everybody's hey 32 you retired young still hall of fame don't mad appreciate it absolute stallion the boys have some questions for you go ahead ty lt i saw and i don't know if you still are but that you were a special assistant to uh dean spanos with the chargers as probably i mean in my opinion at least you're the greatest charger of all time bar none uh do you like what you see from the

chargers especially now that they've moved to la and uh is like getting into the front office or coaching something that you'd ever be interested in yeah so that's a great question. I still, I do still have the title of being Dean Spano's special assistant. And I mean, I love what, what the Chargers have done. I mean, Tom Telesco, you know, John Spano's, their front office has done an outstanding job of accumulating talent, you know, via draft or off season, you know, trades. Hey, they spent money. Casey Jackson. Absolutely.

They spent money. And so here's the thing. When the last time we can say that the Chargers have spent money like that, that should tell you that they believe that this window that they're in with this young quarterback, it is now. They can win now. And so I absolutely think they can. They proved it to me just the game against Kansas City.

Like, they should have won that game. Like, there's no question in my mind if that game is in L.A., the Chargers win that game. And so I do envision possibly one day I would love to be in the front office. I don't want to coach. No way. You know, I think that's too much time away from the family. You know, it's too hard.

I don't want to work that hard. You've got to care about so much stuff. You've got to care about so much stuff, too, that's completely out of your control and your success hinges upon it. It's like I don't know how they sleep ever, ever. I don't know how coaches sleep ever, ever. I don't know how coaches sleep ever. Yeah, me neither. Terrible.

Yep. No, but I would love to one day possibly work in the front office in some capacity. I don't know what that would be, but maybe. Maybe own a team, LT. Why not just own a team, LT? You know what I mean? Have Spanos, you know, give you a percentage and work up a business, buy a little bit more, then go somewhere else just like Tepper

did with the Steelers. Buy another team. Let's get you into an ownership role because the NFL is a cash wagon. I'd love to see a former player in that seat. I would like to talk to you about the Spanos saying they see this window. Do you think they learned that because of the Phillip Rivers era? Do you think that's it? Do you think they were like, we didn't take advantage of having a guy? We could have

invested. We could have won more all in. Do you think they don't want to do that again with Herbert or do you think that's it do you think they're like we didn't take advantage of having a guy we could have invested we could have won more all in do you think they don't want to do that again with herbert or do you think just natural yeah yeah yeah i think a little bit of it plays into it how can it not right i mean when you think about the the window that was there for so long with philip rivers and i think there's a sense that maybe we could have did more, you know, to help Philip, to probably keep that window open. And you don't want to make that same mistake, obviously. You know, experience is really the best teacher, right? We know that.

And so I think the past experience has really allowed Spano's family to say, you know what, we have a window. We understand what we have in Justin Herbert. We're going to go for it. And that's what's happening. I love any time ownership goes all in, as opposed to the opposite, which does take place.

So I assume all Chargers fans are pumped to watch it. I can't wait to see what they do. 30 minutes has already flown by, so I apologize immensely for this. Thank you so much for joining us, man. Hope to talk to you again soon. Absolutely. You got it, Pat. Always a pleasure. Ladies and gentlemen, the

Daniel Thomas. Football! A lot of that to be chatted about. Hell yeah. Two Monday night football games last night. One on ESPN, one on ABC. We just had the Daniel Thomas on, Hall of Famer. The Toxic Table is here live in the Thunderdome at Ty Schmidt at Boston Conner.

Boys, I would be remiss if I didn't bring up the fact that you guys are using cardboard boxes for your feet down there. Yeah, knees almost dislocated yesterday. I don't like it hanging from these bigger chairs. But, you know, we're good. We're rallying. Feels fantastic now. No problems whatsoever. I see you're using two books underneath the cardboard box to put your feet on top of those.

Do you feel like you're disrespecting the books or do you think you're being powered by those books through your feet? I think it kind of reflects my life. Books holding me up almost. The knowledge in those books have never served me better now. So I think not only are you up on your soapbox, but I think the thing about it is, and this might have been learned in one of those books, I'm not sure, two different size books you got. So you put a cardboard box on top of two different size books.

That thing's been slanting the entire time. I've been watching it. Every time you start talking, I'm like, man, this guy is doing this with this. It's almost like you're wake surfing underneath the table right now. I'm a good wake surfer. I had the books on top of the box, but they were the two closest sizes. So it was either deal with it or books on top.

I think your feet would have slipped, which is what I was trying to say. I thought they might have slipped. And I thought I honestly thought maybe you'd put, you know, head to toe, head to toe. That's how it started. Yeah. And did not work. It fell off. What are you going to do?

These are the things you don't think about whenever you're building a multi-million dollar new set. No, definitely not. Like he said, not only knees, but yesterday, boy, did my feet fall asleep. It was like I'd been taking a dump for too long. It was like, alright, listen, I can't be feeling like

I have diabetes all day. Yours seems to be like a perfect fit there. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. My knees feel great today. My feet feel great today. I got nothing to complain about. I'm afraid I've got some bad news for you.

I think your left knee is going to go through it here. Yeah, no. Because it's been riding a lot lower than the other side this entire show. The thighs are really the problem here. I got two big thighs, so I can't scoot as close. So that way I can't really get my legs close enough to the box for it to be comfortable. But, I mean, this is adversity. This is what we go through.

This is what we do. This will only make us better in the end. I see you changed your headphones as well. Yes, the headphones that were brand new out of the box yesterday have already went out. Static-y, actually. In the first hour, I was very worried. It was going on for everyone. But, you know, I looked around a couple times.

Just me. Just my headphones. For those that are wondering, by the way, spend a lot of money on these headphones. Yeah. They naturally don't work. You think you spend money on something like that will take care of it. Oh, it'll work. We won't have to deal about it.

We'll do that. Then you remember, like, oh, some things just don't work, actually. Yeah. So even if you think you have it figured out or somebody else has it figured out, then the shit just doesn't work. It's like, oh, I thought I, hey, that was, didn't even think about that problem. Nope.

You're never expecting to get a lemon out of the box, but guess what? It does happen. You order seven or eight boxes. One of the boxes is, you know, bound to not work. I'm glad it was mine. You would hope they'd bat a little higher percentage that one out of every seven or eight.

You think. But nonetheless, happy you went back to the old school headphones. Seems like you're much more comfortable with those ones anyways. Yeah, maybe. We'll see, because like went back to the old school headphones. Seems like you're much more comfortable with those ones anyways. Yeah, maybe. We'll see. Because like you said about the box, I can already feel my left knee kind of going through it. So it is going to be a little bit of a battle. That's okay.

I can see it now, so I can maybe adjust a little. Yeah, see? I'll bring in the same, because I got these Aaron Rodgers Tuesday books at the house, so I'll bring in my copy and then have them just right below perfect. I don't know if you saw my addition to the desk over here. I'm using three of the Aaron Rodgers Tuesday Book Club's books from last year to hold up this thing, which is open. Pat McAfee, Let's Ride Belt Buckle.

Oh, my God. Sorry about it. Is that one of one? Sorry about it. I think there's five of these that have been sent out there. And I don't know if it's going to auto-focus, kind of. Yeah, this belt buckle says, let's ride on. That thing is sweet.

Let me block the... There it is. Too bad the Broncos might stink. Yeah. No, no, they're going to win. It's hard to win in the NFL. Yeah, you're right. It's hard to win in the NFL.

They've got to win. Broncos country, let's ride into a successful season with Russell Wilson, who just signed a new $260 million deal and the richest owner in all of sport. I think Broncos are happy to be a part of it, but if those games continue to be boring, it's going to be tough. Are we riding or are we saddling?

Let's get these games a little bit of ha-ha. Let's get a little ha-ha on that entire horse thing. I think it's the sound you make to make them run, I believe is what you do with trained horses. I'm not sure. Yeah, I mean, you're riding away from the stadium if they continue to do what they do because no one wants to watch that.

Everybody's saddling up and fucking taking it due north. Yeah, different watering hole. Out of here. Sick of it. Happy we got that figured out. Hi, everybody's in the back. I'm Evan Fox. You have Viva Lozito, Nick Marotto.

Joining us live from an attic in Ohio, a man who's won a college football national championship, a Super Bowl championship, a Ryder Cup championship, and he's beat COVID I think four or five times.

Holy shit. Ladies and gentlemen, father of 10, AJ Hawk. Hey! What's up, dude? What's up, guys? You watched both games,

I'm sure, obviously. I tried my best to flip back and forth. I did find it to be inconvenient. Then I had a bunch of people tweeting me that I was poor because I didn't have two TVs. Okay, what do you want me to do? I got to do a full Sunday setup for a Monday night. Don't love it, but love that there's games to watch.

So I don't want to bitch too much. Could not see the entirety of both games. Once that Bills-Titans game became unattainable, which appeared to be after the first drive for both teams. Titans go down, score, then they get the ball back. It kind of gets bad. Bills don't stop. They do punt, inevitably. Sam Martin gets his first punt of the NFL season.

Boom! Off a guy's shoulder, beat him up ball. Bills get 40 yards of field position out of it and the ball back, of course. That's how their punt team operates. Seems like the Bills can do no wrong, so then you go over to the Vikings-E eagles game then eagles start pulling away it was tough to stay awake for all of it but i tried my best did you watch both games and what's the biggest takeaway for me for me the only question is have the bills peaked too early because these motherfuckers look unbelievable aj well you know how i i that stupid, it means nothing.

There's no reason for me to have the feeling. But when things are going too good, I get worried for teams, especially when they're going this good this early. But, hey, like the Bills, they're going to look back on this team and what they've done in September, hopefully in December and January, and they're like, man, we're way better than we were back then. How about us? That's the only takeaway.

You know what? It's going to be hard to be this good for fucking 15 more weeks Yeah, that's literally the only takeaway because they all look at the news. Hey, look at the new AJ Hawk Big boy I did see some people telling me about how big of a sellout I was for building this thing talking about how we're gonna lose The intimacy of the set I believe we are closer in looking at each other much more now than we were at the last studio. Without a doubt.

But the only issue is, if we could move that big screen to right here, I'd be able to see everybody in one shot. Have to turn my big dumb head this way to see A.J. Hawk on a side screen. So that's a little bit of a takeaway. Sorry. It's still intimate. Once you actually get in here, like, yeah, it is. The actual stage itself is smaller than our previous

studio was yeah it's awesome yeah i enjoy it the biggest takeaway that i've had thus far we've had power yep okay we've had power helps audio kind of a thing for about what 90 90 minutes or so yeah kind of come see comes out i had no idea what's happening right so we didn't in the moment we didn't even really know it's taking place. No, I thought everything was going out without a hitch. We said, holy fuck, what an hour. It was unbelievable. And the ball splashes. That basketball shot's not easy to make.

Fucking splashed it. This is amazing. We find out that was not the case at all. It was impossible to listen to. We got it figured out. Shout out to Pauly B for spunking through the machine in the back and figuring that whole out. I think we're doing okay, AJ.

Honestly, today feels a lot better than yesterday. And I'm going to be honest. Yesterday, at the that whole out. I think we're doing okay, AJ. Honestly, today feels a lot better than yesterday. And I'm going to be honest. Yesterday, at the end of the day, and even into this morning, wanted to maybe sell this place and never fucking come back in here. Got past it. We're in a good spot now, AJ. Got past it. Hopefully some 40-year-old billionaire has a special hangout he needs

in the Indianapolis area if you want to sell that sucker. You're saying it's going to be sitting on a shelf. I don't know how many people can afford that amazing, that complex. What you would do if you were a grown adult and you have a ton of money, that is what you build right there, what you have. Well, to be clear,

the property itself was nowhere near as expensive as I thought it was going to be. When I actually looked at the sign that it was for sale and going, oh, there's no way. I remember the day you told us that. Hey, I remember you came in here. Okay. Bought a church.

And then that was, what, two years ago? Two years ago. Three years ago? Yeah. Probably two and a half years ago, yeah. And then the construction's taken 18 months, which I do believe if we would have given everybody four months and giving them 18 months or four months, I think both would have— Same outcome.

I think same. Yeah. Yeah. I learned a lot about the construction business. Okay. It's a real gem. And I appreciate all the hardworking humans out there, but it feels like deadlines, you know, are a thing, but not really.

They are a heightened, like, let's get the last three months, the growth that this place has seen. Now, a lot of other shit has had to happen but like two months ago this place would have thought literally nothing was being done to it some walls were put up a month ago then it really started clicking the last like three weeks everything started really moving started getting installed and everything like that so it is really coming together quickly you probably moved in two weeks too early aj probably two weeks too early probably needed probably another two weeks or so to figure it out. But I think in two weeks, probably similar type stuff as what we have going on yesterday.

So we're learning a lot as we go. And at the same time, what the fuck do we know next to nothing? Well, and that would have driven everyone crazy if in two weeks we get in here and we're already well into the football season. And then we have the same things happen yesterday. It's like, well, why the fuck weren't we in here two weeks, we get in here and we're already, you know, well into the football season. And then we have the same things happen yesterday. It's like, well, why the fuck weren't we in here two weeks ago? Yeah, because this place, we got so excited that we could just say like, all right, if I make this $500, $500 to somebody that retweets us. $500 from me, $500 from AJ Hawk to somebody that retweets us.

Right, AJ? Yeah, absolutely. Oh, yeah. Got it. Oh, damn. Did right, AJ? Yeah, absolutely. Oh, yeah. Got it. Damn. Did that go in? Yeah. You didn't hear it?

You didn't hear an eye on it? I'll Venmo. Let me Venmo you. No, catch that. My bad. That one did, though. Damn. I hate this place.

Yeah, I mean, if you do want to sell it, I figure Frank Grant can put on, like, scriptures and sports at some point up here and he can stand and do his thing and then teach the kids. All right, let's get in some overreaction because that is kind of an overreaction there, especially in Indianapolis. People are saying, get Frank Reich the fuck out of here, okay? Frank Reich knows that being a head coach is going to come with those types of conversations,

especially if you get blanked by the Jacksonville Jaguars 24-zip. He has come out and a couple other players in a press conference saying we're fine, everything's good, we're all good, baby. And I hate hearing that. That's like when Neil Brown, after he lost the pit over a fourth and an inch, they decided to punt, they ended up losing, could have gone for it. He's asked if he would do it again, and he says, yep, I'd do the same exact thing.

It's like, okay, even if that's how you feel, lie to us to make us think that things are going better. That's how everybody's reacting to Frank Reich in the Indianapolis Colts situation. But if they win, nobody will give a fuck. They know that. They get players back. Let's talk about some overreactions.

Are the Titans dead, AJ? What the hell is going on with them? Watch that game last night, and I know we're talking about the Buffalo Bills, and the only question mark is, have they peaked too early? That's literally the only question mark for the Buffalo Bills. Everything else looks fantastic. Poyer's still on to have 17 interceptions this season. Let's keep it going, Jordan.

All right, let's not fuck around and not make the Pro Bowl again. Okay, let's get 17 picks, pal. You're on track to do so. Anything else will be a massive letdown. But the Titans on the flip side, yeah, Poyer's pick is awesome. Ball's bing, bang, batted around. He comes sliding in like a beauty and has an incredible celebration afterwards. The defense is balling. The offense is balling. Special teams, Tyler Bass is killing balls and

Sam Martin's creating turnovers on his only appearance on the field upon a football. So it's like this Buffalo Bills team, unbelievable. Is that the conversation or what are the Titans doing? Vrabel came out and said, we got to learn how to win a game. We got to do this. They were fucking terrible, dude. Like bad, bad football. And I don't know if that's what they look like exactly for the entirety of week one, but I know last night, primetime, they laid an egg. What happens if they're dead? LT said he thinks they're dead, dead. Is that real or not? I mean, the tough thing for them too, if they get behind early in games, they rely heavily on the run game with Derrick Henry,

who is probably their best player, and they want to feed that guy the ball as much as they possibly can. You can't do that as much when you fall behind early. And, I mean, Tannehill, right now, what, people were calling for Tannehill to get pulled in the first half, I feel like, last night. Weren't they? At least online, which we know that's not, you know, whatever.

Well, Malik did see some action last night, and I think with what he did in the preseason, it's going to get louder if this team continues to stink. They lose Luan. Do we have an update on Taylor Luan's injury? Not right now, I don't think so, at least before the show. We do have an update on the Buffalo Bills corner. I guess he has left the hospital on his own.

Walked out. Walked out on his own recognizance or whatever, so that's great news with how nasty that injury looked. We'll get an update, I hope, on Taylor Luan at some point because that's a pivotal piece to the entire thing. I think an interesting comment that happened last night, and I think Dan Orlovsky said it best, is looking at the big picture. I was watching that while I was trying to figure out what happened.

Wild. Was it diarrhea? I think he just bobbled his words so much. And he said, pfft. And he did that. Yeah, one of those. And it's like, Dan, you're on Monday Night Football and everybody knows. You're not going to tell people that.

Because it was a weird, like, I understand something could have happened where his mic could have cut out or somebody was in his ear, and then the fart sound and I'm like, alright, well just tell us what that was exactly. Yeah, he could have easily done it. Easy for me to say, right? After the fart sound? Yes. Because instead it sounded like he sneezed mid-sentence and then shit

right into the microphone. I thought he unzipped his pants, put the microphone directly in between his butt cheeks and let one rip. See? And that's what a lot of people did on the internet. That thing got a lot of views because he obviously has the video next to Laura Rutledge from the booth about some water being

in the booth. That's right. And that went viral. Now he makes fart sound with his mouth when he can't get a sentence out. Doesn't tell anybody that was a bobble. Now everybody actually thinks that Dan Orlovsky took his lav mic off the side of his head and put it into his tank and shit on it. Nick does not

just speak for Nick. Nick speaks for the internet last night. Really? Yes. He's got a mic that he can stick directly in his butt cheeks. You know he's wearing a headset with the mic coming out of here. Well, then people are thinking that he farted directly into a very hard surface. Like he's sitting on hardwood, and that thing shot directly into the microphone because that's how clear that fart was. When I thought to myself, like, oh, he obviously just bobbled a sentence

and made the fart sound just like get through it because he's Dan Orlovsky. Certainly should have told he's a nerd. You know, that's like Dan Orlovsky. Should have told people that's why he didn't move on there wasn't a lot of people that thought that was the case there's a lot of people like oh dan just farted into the microphone it's like one of the cleanest sounding fart on mike ever all the time all the time it sounded like a fake fart it was so good yeah it was a sneeze and a fart i believe also he sneezed first to get him tripped up i think yeah in the middle and he almost had an aneurysm because he covered it in.

And then as he went down for the sneeze that he was covering, he got closer to his butt. And then that's where the fart shot up. Never mind, that might have happened. You're right, I might have changed my mind. I don't know. I think he's only got, what, two more Monday night games? Why is it so funny? He could have made an all-time Monday night football moment

if he would have done that and been like, oh, I just pooped my pants. Yeah, well, you think Dan Orlovsky on Monday Night Football is going to say, oh, he's the most self-deprecating guy there is. Exactly. He tweeted he's the most self-deprecating guy in the face of the earth. Can you imagine how hilarious that would have been if he would have done that and been like, oh, my God, I just pooped my pants? That would have been amazing.

Self-deprecating. What if he cuts a full – yeah, get it? Self-deprecating. What if he cuts a full promo? You remember what Joe Paterno did on the sideline of the Penn State game? You remember what a lot of guys have done in the past? I just did that Monday Night Football booth. I'm nervous.

I'm excited to be here. All right, I'll give it to you, Louis Riddick. I'm going to go change my diaper. Right, exactly. Steve, Louis, you guys are going to have to take over for the next 10 minutes. I'm going to need a fresh pair of underwear. I just pooped my pants. So what's worse, shitting his pants or the end zone?

Oh, see, see? We didn't even remember. Yeah. Come on. See? Come on. What's worse? You're right.

You're right. For the good of journalism, and he is a journalist because he's on ESPN on Monday Night Football, he would have to do the same thing. I believe that the running out of the back of the end zone is a tough one, especially because that's in his first game. Right. That's his first NFL game, which is a stat that gets forgotten about whenever it gets brought up. People just think that's a part of his career.

Whenever he was with the Lions in that 0-16 career season, which is something that happened. That was in his first year he ran out of the back of the end zone. First time playing Jared Allen. And obviously the cowboy Jared Allen is never going to forget it. So I would say that one's tough because the teammates are laughing at you. City, Detroit, already been through enough. They're laughing at you.

And the Vikings are forever going to remember you shitting your pants first time you play them running out of the back of the end zone. A bobbled sentence on Monday Night Football is going to happen. We think you should have added something, right? Don't you think, AJ? I think now with the internet, don't you think it's always, we always mess things up. Like, it's fun to, you got to

acknowledge it. Just like, oh, here we go. Like, you're right. Oh, baby shark by me on my Monday Night game. Real thankful to be here, guys. What if he said, how did that pick that up so clean? Yeah, that's what I would have said. I mean, I think these mics are amazing. Was that you, Lewis? That would have been good, too.

Steve! You blamed someone else? Yeah, that would have been good. Let me guess, Steve. It was the dog. Yeah. Like a full one of those? Oh, I shouldn't have had those wings at Anchor Bar.

Like, if you would have said something like that, I think people – because in the grand scheme of things, we all watch Jason Witten. Again, whatever, but it's not like he was up there doing – What do you mean? Evakim, Evakim, Evakim. He wasn't doing that, so just roll with it. Put a rabbit out of his foot, dude. Don't worry about it.

You know what I mean? Jason Witten, incredible tight end, and that's how we should remember that. That's right. Good man, too. Walter Payton, man of the year. Absolutely. He's done a lot more for football than a lot of humans, myself included, but he will never be remembered for that by an entire generation

because of what happened in Monday Night Football. But it's not his fault. Not his fault. Not his fault. He should not have been put in there. I am with you, man. You're right. I know Witten, great dude, unbelievable Hall of Fame tight end.

That's all I see when I see Witten. Really? You sure? A little piece of you, though. Great guy, great father, husband, human, yeah. Hey,, unbelievable Hall of Fame tight end. That's all I see when I see Witten. Really? You sure? A little piece of you, though. Great guy, great father, husband, human, yeah. Hey, a little piece of you, though. I saw him. I met him for the first time at a dinner, and it was after.

It was in the middle of the Monday Night Football run. Oh. Yeah. As soon as I met him. You're crushing it. Yeah. Is that what you said to him? Yeah, what'd you say, Pat?

What'd you say? I assume I dropped some sort of something. Yeah, and he was at the time, and his first time in the booth, they put him in fucking Monday Night Football. They drop him in a Ferrari as a 14-year-old. What do you want out of Jason West? I agree. That's an impossible situation. Really, really difficult to be good in that situation.

You've got to be a phenom on television to drop into Monday Night Football and be good. Like, I think, honestly. And I think because of how good he was at football. Let's bring it all back around. Because of how good he was at football and how good of a human he was, they just assumed, hey, Witten's going to be able to do this, no problem. Turns out, if he got maybe a year of practice at somewhere else. Did he get the screen test or anything, though?

They always make people screen test and do practice games or whatever. No, we're not sure. I think they were probably thinking, hey, we put him in with a consummate pros pro and Joe Tess, it's going to be just fine. The three-man booth was tough, though. It made it impossible. He had never done an NFL game before either. And then we'll put a cart on the sideline.

No Bogey in there. I mean, Witten had no shot. How do we ever know who's talking and when to talk, too? Witten's thrown in there day one. He starts to say something, then Bogey jumps in. That'd be a tough situation. So we would like everybody to not remember Jason Witten at all for what he did in Monday Night Football because he had no opportunity,

no chance. He did collect a paycheck, though. He did. I mean, they really did try to reinvent the wheel without telling him. It's like, hey, this is going to be the best fucking thing ever. You're going to be just fine. Don't worry how it's going to happen. It will happen.

You just be you in the booth. Just focus on calling a game. You're really good at the game. You can see things. You're in a tight end position. It's a growing position. It focus on calling a game. You're really good at the game. You can see things. You're a tight end position. It's a growing position. It's a very important position. You're a good guy.

Walter Payton, man of the year, absolute stud. They drop him in there. And to your point, you're saying everybody is being judged against that pretty much. Yeah. Still some guys that break through. Yeah? Still some guys that break through.

And I have to listen to a couple regional games, you know, get a chance to watch them all. Right. And you turn on, like, a local cbs game somewhere and it's like all right who and how did we think this was okay you know for the nfl biggest league on earth have you seen the numbers that have come out i saw some of them yeah it looks like uh roger goodall was feeling pretty good about his product yeah roger goodall is fucking pumped about what he's got going on, and he can do no wrong, I assume, in the network size. $20 million on NBC for Sunday Night Football.

The afternoon slate for CBS combined, $27.3 million. I believe that's the Bengals, Cowboys, Broncos, Texans, Raiders, Cardinals, time slot at 4.05, 4.25. That entire thing got $27.3 million. If we're reading the stats right, that's the biggest of the day, and obviously the biggest of whatever for that particular time in

TV history since the last time the NFL did it or whatever. I mean, the NFL is continuing to absolutely slaughter the ratings, and I don't think it's going to change. And we were talking a little bit earlier, we had a call with FanDuel, you know, to celebrate that we hit the super boost and kind of rub it in their face, you know, because they've been batting 1,000.

They've been batting 1,000 with everybody, FanDuel. They're good at what they do. Sportsbooks have been winning a lot, and it's because this football season has been electrifying. I mean, it has. You know, this has probably been the most hyped football season, both college and NFL, and it's lived up to the hype. There's been some snoozers.

The Broncos-Texans game, meh. Last night's two games, meh, kind of boring. But there's been thrilling matchups. There's been thrilling games, and there's been storylines already budding from teams that we didn't even know about. I mean, it has been a fantastic start to football. Football is the fucking best sport on earth. It is the most glorious sport on earth.

And I think we're only just now tapping into what makes it fantastic. And it's going to continue to grow. I fucking love it. I love football, AJ. Like, I am so happy we're in the middle of this. How could you not? If you sit there and watch it, like the games, like all the craziness that has happened. I mean, those numbers for week two of the regular season is asinine

to think about that. Like the amount of eyeballs that will tune in to watch an NFL football game. It's awesome. That's why, like I said, I'm a much bigger fan now than when I was playing football. I think I love to watch and figure things out. But has Amazon come back with any numbers? I know they said they had the highest subscribers from that night,

but what else? So Jay Marine, a man I never met, was in negotiations with him for like six, seven months. He's the head of sports. Probably should have talked to him at least one time. He has kind of put the whole thing together. He announced to all of his Amazon employees that Thursday night's game between the Chargers and Chiefs delivered the most signups in the history of Amazon. And I believe that's how they're going to judge success.

They're not judging success on the ratings because the ratings are something. But whenever you're a destination viewing place like YouTube, like Amazon, where people have to come seek you out and find you as opposed to just popping up on your television. I don't know if you're necessarily judging your numbers versus other numbers because the numbers of people that are seeking you are active numbers, right? Because they had to do so to get there. So they're the people that are buying. They're the people that are moving. They're the people that are seeking you are active numbers, right? Because they had to do so to get there. So they're the people that are buying. They're the people that are moving. They're the people that are seeking you out. They're a much more valuable customer than somebody that just turns

on a TV and has no relationship with anybody. So I think how Amazon was going to judge this relationship was strictly upon signups and how many more people they get on to Prime Video before and after the game. i think what jay marine said to everybody is i don't know what everybody's thoughts are in this company about the nfl i'm not sure if everybody's a fan of the sport or not but as a company what we need to understand is these motherfuckers brought more signups than anybody in the history which is exactly what the nfl told amazon was going to happen when they were negotiating the deal getting a billion dollars from them a year for just one game exclusivity.

It is. The NFL is king everywhere, and now you've got Apple probably seeing this. Netflix, why wouldn't Netflix potentially get into the live sport? You've got all these people seeing that, and the NFL is just sitting at the top of the mountain like the hungry, hungry hippos just gobbling, gobbling everything, AJ. Honestly. Yeah. Well, their goal, everything, AJ. Honestly. Yeah.

Well, their goal, right, is to have everyone be a Prime customer. Like everyone in the world is signed up for Amazon Prime. Like that's what they want, I feel like. And then they want to be able to run and automate your whole life. So who knows what that gets into. But, yeah. People love football. People love Amazon.

What day do you think the NFL is competing with Amazon? Someday in the middle of COVID when people found out that you could Amazon everything and they were sitting at home there was probably one day like a prime day probably happened during COVID that was probably the most signups they had you would think or yeah probably or maybe like around like Black Friday or or something like that where because they have all the crazy deals and you don't have to go fucking you know get your teeth knocked out by some hillbilly that is what it was it. It was like Prime Day, Cyber Monday, like all those days. Yeah, that was the former best one.

Jay Marine's like, hey, sales team, hey, marketing team, we appreciate all of your incredibly hard work. Prime Day is innovative, it's amazing, and we see millions and millions and millions in profit every single one. Genius. Our first ever voyage with the NFL fucking beat all of you. So let's get a little bit better. Let's go back to the drawing board.

Let's do a little bit better. Amazon's going to own everything, you think, at the end? Amazon, Apple? I mean, I don't know if they're going to break them up someday for being a monopoly, but it seems like, yeah, they want to run everything. The monopoly story. They can try. The monopoly story is interesting, too, yeah, they want to run everything. The monopoly story. They can try.

The monopoly story is interesting, too, because are you going to go after venture capitalist firms that have their money and everything and they own, you know? Everyone's trying to automate our whole life. Yeah, it's just how it works right now. They want to make it as easy as possible to, hey, boom, here we go. That's on my doorstep now. I was talking to an orthodontist or a chiropractor.

I forget who I was talking to. I forget what his profession was. Probably both. Venture capitalists, they came in and bought his company up. They're just trying to own everything. These VC companies, firms, that have all the money.

They have all the people that you think are rich. All of their money are combined together into these firms, into massive pots. they don't get taxed they're in there you're able to kind of invest in things with it it's a great way to kind of hide money and invest money and get richer for the uber wealthy people this is happening everywhere this is why whenever people get upset about the saudi fund that is being invested into everything it's kind of a hypocritical thing because big money from people

that might not be perfect humans have been coming together to buy shit and pay people for a long time but they're trying to buy up everything and it's like that's what amazon's doing as well like it's going to come a time where everything is kind of bundled up i think and amazon's on the forefront of that because they can sell everything to your fucking house immediately and now they got the nfl package it's just it's good business it's great business i don't know how you stop any of these people you can't they talked about it like a couple years ago like you know they were saying like the big box stores like eventually those will just die it's getting to the point now where like if you go into any of those places like they don't have inventory anymore like it is easier just to like you know they're trying for whatever reason they go you know we

don't have it in store but you can order it online's like, or I could just cut out the middleman, never come here again and just get it on Amazon, and it'll be at my house tomorrow. Let's chit-chat here about some breaking news. Is this real? Is this real? The Pro Football Hall of Fame news. We are happy to announce the 129 modern era nominees for the pro football hall of fame's class of 2023 okay punters kickers and special teams have been

added shane leckler gary anderson ryan longwell jason elam pat mcafee jeff eagles matt turk jason hansen josh cribs thank you Pat McAfee, Jeff Eagles, Matt Turk, Jason Hansen, Josh Cribs. Thank you. Wow. I did not deserve that. How about it? How do we vote for you? I did not play long enough to deserve that.

Whoa, man. Length doesn't matter. How does that even happen? Can we vote for you? Don't. Vote for Shane Leckler. This is one of those things. Vote for Shane Leckler. This is wild of those things. Vote for Shane Leckler.

They're going. This is wild to be on this fucking graphic. I don't think we get a vote, though, do we? No, it's those people like. Yeah. Yeah. Man, that's wild. Congratulations. Yeah, let's go.

That's pretty fucking sweet. Let's go. Maybe we'll do a graphic, man. I mean, this is. Bam. Holy fuck. Don't vote me in. But this is cool to even be acknowledged.

Did not play long enough. Did not have a big enough contribution to the game. But I am lucky to cover the game every single day since then. And if any of these people go in that are representing special teams, I will be fucking pumped about this. But this is something I could have never expected. I just saw it on a text here in the group text. Zito goes, pretty large surprise in the text message. And I'm i think so i think that is worthy of it i hope shane goes

in i hope all the boys go in what a joke dude what an absolute joke good for you hey that's pretty cool huh yeah what do you mean of course josh cribs in there too with you i like that it's like an interesting thing now Because I've judged this type of situation And others in the past Like oh did he actually Or is it because he's a popular person In the thing

Whatever the case it's cool to be on this side People already hate the Hall of Fame anyways I mean you heard what Deion Sanders said Like half the guys that are already in the Hall Or just got voted in don't deserve to be there. So, of course, why not? You should be in. I mean, they had to change the kickoff rules

because, you know, the kick to yourself. There's a lot of different contributions, I think, that you're not giving yourself as much credit for. No, no, no. Let's not even dive into that. But it is fucking awesome and insane. And I don't fully know how to take it all. You don't have to say it.

Thank you, though. You definitely should vote. If you get into the Hall of Fame, that would be pretty sweet. Are you kidding me? Ah, that would be insane. That's crazy. Get Leckler in there for sure. And you.

Let's get to a break. That is wild, dude. Two punters in the same year. That'd be sweet. Awesome. We'd pack out, Kent. Oh, yeah. That'd be bumping.

How about me just realizing, too, my insurance is probably up. Because that means five years, right? Oh, yeah. So I'm going to have to figure that out. That's what I just. I feel like I'm getting old now. Five years out. Geez, Luis.

Thank you to whoever put that graphic together in that list together uh i obviously do not believe i deserve it but somebody did and put me on there thank you i appreciate it that's fucking cool that's awesome probably won't happen shouldn't happen but the fact that the conversation even took place, I appreciate it. What we are about to do is an unprecedented conversation in the sports media world that we've been lucky to do the last two seasons. Ladies and gentlemen, fresh off of a win in which he looked damn near perfect, back-to-back MVP winner of the National Football League, host of Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, which is currently in its third season, ladies and gentlemen, ayahuasca guy, Aaron Rodgers. Yeah!

What's up, dude? Hey, guys. How you doing? Hey, we're great, man. New location. Yeah, I'm happy we're able to connect with you today, to be honest with you. Could you imagine we get in this place and not able to connect with anybody? It would have been a heartbreaker. But we need to get you out here.

We're going through it a little bit. There's some technical difficulties happening every single moment, but we appreciate you, bud. Thanks for the love. Kind of like the AJ Hawk household. Yeah, bingo. He's rebuilding a house. He rebuilds his house every two weeks.

I have no idea how he does it. These constructions and contractor, AJ, I have no idea how you do this every other month with your wife in the business that she does. Honestly, I have no idea. Well, it's all right, Pat. You'll get to it. You'll be okay. No, I think we need a pistol or chopper to come out here and handle this whole business. They were too busy in Ohio. Couldn't come to Indiana. Next time we will learn from that. Aaron, let's talk about week two here. Last week, you didn't seem to have any panic. Obviously, you're always very relaxed and comfortable. Feels like Packers came out with a little bit more energy here

against this game. Is that because it's the Bears? Is that because of what happened week one? What do you attribute to, and did you feel it? Well, it's all that. I mean, I think first week to have major overreactions and write teams off completely is always a mistake, and it keeps happening every single year in our business.

To do it after two weeks, I would say, is the same thing. To crown somebody early in the season, there's so much that can happen. There's so many different momentum swings and confidence, rollercoaster teams go on and injuries that can happen. For us, we're fortunate. We played in a tough environment on the road. We came home to our crowd, incredible environment against our longtime rivals who were riding high off a big win in week one, and we took care of business.

Other than coming home playing at Lambeau with that amazing atmosphere which the floor was doing his part and pumping the crowd I could see him many different times on the tv copy like what else was different from week one to week two could you could you feel it early on the game like all right this is this is much better than I felt last week I don't know if it's if it's that you know they went down uh we we got the. We went down and got three. Then they came right back down and got seven and seven-three. And I was thinking, gosh, dang it, what's going on? You know, we got to get this thing rolling.

You know, we got to take this down now and score. And we put together another nice drive and took the lead back and didn't give it up from that point forward. But I just feel like we all kind of just settled in. The crowd definitely helped. The environment helped. Sunday Night Football has always been a favorite of mine i was just watching a clip back uh during the break here with al michaels and uh love al so much but just and he's not with sun and i football anymore mike draco's on there there's a fantastic job but

i've always really enjoyed those we've won like 13 straight primetime games i saw you know tom fanning sent me a stat there. So it just kind of lined up for us. Again, there's some similarities to last year. Hopefully, a lot of similarities. I said it, I think, last week. We get blown out in week one, play a division opponent week two, go on the road week three against an opponent that is going to be favored,

and we're not expected to win. And we need a Herculean effort to go down there and get the dub. But it feels good to be one-on-one. The entire division is one-on-one now after Philadelphia beat Minnesota last night. And so it's, you know, we're two weeks in. We can't overreact. But it definitely feels nice to get that first win. Oh, we overreact literally every single day.

Oh, yeah. Titans are dead. I don't know if you know that. I mean, Titans are absolutely dead. They got no shots the rest of the year. And the Bills. Is Mike Vrabel not coaching them anymore? See, I bet on that last night.

Shut the fuck up. Come on. The only thing you can say about. Is Derrick Henry still there? Yeah, they still got him, yeah. Ryan Tannehill still throwing those strike routes? Yeah, they're going to be just fine. They're going to chill out.

There wasn't a lot of those last night, I don't believe. But, I mean, he still got it in him. Well, Buffalo. Hey. That's a pretty damn big team there. Do you watch these games? And do you think – I watched a little bit of that one.

I really like Josh Allen. I've gotten to know him a little bit over the years. I really like him as a person. If somebody that I really, really like is on TV, I'll probably check him out. Who else do you really like that you watch? I'm not going to give away

too much of that information. If it's applicable to the conversation age, then I'll add to it. I know you're trying to set me up again here with some ridiculous interjection, but I do like Josh Allen a lot, and if he's on, I usually watch him. I like Matt Stafford a lot. If he's on, I'll watch him, and I'll just stop right there. You left a couple names off the list, so you don't like? That's what A.J. wanted to get into, right?

A.J., that's what you wanted to get into. That's what he wants. That's what he wants. That's exactly what I need. I just like to know what games he's watching. Yeah, I do enjoy that. I don't watch a lot of games. I don't watch a lot of games.

But if somebody's playing that I enjoy watching or that I'm good friends with, then I'll probably check it out. So what do you think whenever you see the Bills that are just humming? Now, your team looked much better this week, too, than you did week one. And I think that guy that's on your shirt, Aaron Jones,

was a big part of that. Obviously a focal point. But when you watch teams like the Bills... We need a sombrero. We need a sombrero on there. Yeah, he's a... And also maybe the sunglasses, too.

Those are so sweet at night on the sideline. It's like his thing. Yeah. It's like his thing. He puts on the Oakleys and the sombrero. It's like,

that's a great marketing. Great fucking player. He puts on the Oakleys and the sombrero. It's like, that's a great marketing. Great fucking player. He was on our I mean, I don't know if you saw it or not. He was on our super boost because you and LeFleur were like, need to get Aaron Jones involved more. That was obviously a topic of conversation you all had. And what do you think

happened week one on why he didn't get involved? Or in week two, is that more so what you expect for the rest of the season and obviously the convo with Aaron Jones how'd that go no it changes every week it really does I mean the goal is to get 33 and 28 the ball uh you know it'd be nice to get them a number of touches you know the 15 range at least for each of them but it just depends on how the game goes some games flow differently than others And week one, the way it went and the score and the inability to be efficient and to keep drives going, we didn't have opportunities to get those guys runs.

But I felt like we were five for nine, I believe, on third downs. That gives you more opportunities. The fact that we only had nine third downs in the entire game with, I think, 69 plays, nice for the game. But that gives you more opportunities to run the football. I mean, I think week one we were, I don't know, one or two conversions on third down the entire game. So it depends.

You know, there's big deals made about it. Oh, you know, there's a conscious effort to get the ball to these guys. No, every game there's a conscious effort to get the ball to your best players. But the flows of different games don't allow it sometimes or allow maybe even more in other games. Aaron, the broadcasters say that you're given two plays every time they call something in, a run play and a pass play, and you get to make the decision.

It's a serious question. Stop laughing. And you make that decision. Is that something that's always been the case, and is that 100% true? That is not true. No, it's not 100%. Oh, they're not lying on TV? Then how often does that happen where you have two plays and you make the call? I would say, I don't know, in the 40% to 50% on the top end, max probably.

Flow of the game. Then there's 100% of the time I can change it to whatever I want. Now, 60% of the time that I do change it to what I want, it works every time. So I've got to be very careful about what that 60% is compared to that 40% of the run-pass options. Yeah, because if you start making decisions and it doesn't go well, well, then those decisions are going to get called into question. But if they go well – Then there's no audibles in this offense, and then there's, you know,

all, you know, the lack of competitiveness and the diva attitude and all that stuff starts coming out. And then what do you do? Then what do you do? That's awesome. Was it always like that with the floor? And do you feel like this year you're another year in the system, but you're without Devontae?

Is this the most comfortable you two have felt together? Well, I think every year it's been more comfortable for sure with Matt. Look, our relationship is personified by funny, you know, asides and anecdotes. You know, I get back in August and he shows me like, hey, look at this book I'm reading about spirituality. Look at you, bro. That's incredible. He wants to be friends. Yeah.

He wants to be in a circle. But it's little things like that. And it's jokes. You know, it's me kind of like every now and then kind of needle, needle, needle, and him kind of going right to the edge and losing his shit, and then he realizes, oh, he's messing with me. And then he catches himself, and then I'm like, nice, man. Good job, buddy.

That's kind of the relationship how it goes. There's a lot of fun little moments like that. But in the game, I don't know what happened, but the first quarter, his headset wasn't working. So it sounded like when you're trying to get off a phone call and you act like you're going through a tunnel. Oh, this show. Yesterday. But it was one of those. And, you know, there's been times over the years where I've messed with him,

where I act like I can't hear what he's saying. You know, I don't know what's going on. You know, and he starts to kind of, you know, get the blood boiling a little bit. This was, you know, it was kind of going in and out. So we had some funny, you know, there was some near freakouts going on. But Matt kept it together. I give him credit. You know, Matt, last year, the year before, first year, definitely, definitely would have, you know, been way more demonstrative on the sidelines.

This time he just called a timeout. We came over, had a couple laughs about it, and moved on. Congrats, Coach. Yeah, here we go. Congrats, Coach. Hey, you know, that's what life's all about, right? It's about just growth and reflection and great eyebrows. You are the universe, Coach LaFleur. Don't ever fucking forget it, pal.

All right? Don't ever forget it. You are the universe. I love the way he said, this time, just called a timeout, figured it out, moved on. You know? That's hilarious to think about that relationship between the two of you because you've said he's a little bit tight-lipped. It's never going to work out in the first place, right?

Obviously. Well, you hated him because you didn't get to pick him. The asshole, prima donna, Aaron Rodgers, won't give this guy a chance, don't be the problem was what was said, and you're going to be the problem. And now you two are the bestest of friends. It's an amazing thing. It is. It's a cool thing. It's funny, you know, with a couple

bottles of nice wine and a couple stogies and a couple good book recommendations can do for a relationship. Oh, yeah. Yeah, there we go. Thank you, AJ. We're both journalists. Is that the stuff that Frank Thomas is

peddling? Big heard. That's for big don'ts. That's Nugenics. Nugenics, that's Nugenics. I don't know, what did he say? I thought he said Nugenics. What did he say?

No, I said Ayahuasca. We said Ayahuasca. He said hallucinogens. No, AJ said something ridiculous, I think. Hallucinogens, that's all he said. Oh, you did say hallucinogens. I thought he said Nugenics. Are you on Nugenics?

You are looking a little bit. Frank looks good. He does. How about in that commercial? He's fucking, what, 6X every other person that's in that commercial. And then he was on Fox Baseball. Yeah. And he Sicilian-ed everybody else in that whole thing. He's passing and encouraging.

And Nugenix is the thing. You do ayahuasca with the floor or no? I would, but I have not. You love Lazard doing that? How come you had a different reaction to the ayahuasca than everybody else that took it out of the NFL football there? I will say, you know,

I don't want to send the wrong message. You know, that's not what happens. You're not standing up, you know, drinking ayahuasca and then have this, you know, Jesus revival, you know, slaying in theca and then have this, you know, Jesus revival, you know, slain in the spirit thing that happens to you. It's not like that.

You did this. You did that. That's what you did. You did, ah, did it take you back? Did you feel it whenever the NFL football kind of dumped out a little ayahuasca right into that fake cup there? And then you drink it then you did the playing card find you again once in time in the end zone there aaron rogers well that was a celebration that alan and i talked about a couple years ago uh that was just really him and i you

know because bobby and i had a little thing and you know and him and i had our own thing and then bobby and alan had their own thing right and then on Friday, Alan kind of spread that to the rest of the guys. So I was aware they were doing something, and I just wanted to get over there and get involved. And then when I realized he was doing the tea thing, then I remembered what our celebration between him and I was. And, again, you know, I'm not sending the wrong message. That's not what happens in the ayahuasca.

You don't have some sort of immediate pass out faint into oblivion. After a while, you have some incredible experiences. This is you just sending yourself through the dementia. I can't wait. From the stories I've heard and the way you reacted on Sunday Night Football and what it feels like, I can't wait for that to radiate through my entire... I can't wait to feel it, Aaron. Let's talk about Lazard being back, though. Obviously, great connection there. He's out week one. What's the comfort level going into week two? Does that

change anything for you as an overall player? Jenkins back. Is there more comfort, or is that all fodder for pundits to talk about from the outside looking in uh there's definitely some more comfort with 13 and 74 back out there uh just understanding body moments uh and the way that uh that alan runs his routes alan shows up way more than just in the the measurable stat sheet though but I think that's one point to always remember about him. He's very valuable in a bunch of different ways. He's such a smart, smart player. I mean, he is a brilliant, smart player and an excellent blocker. And I'll say that about Sammy and Randall as well. You know, those guys really, really block well. If you watch

some of the plays that Jonesy and Dillon had in the game, there's some big-time blocks by all those guys. And then even on the screen on second and 28 to Romeo, Allen and Randall out there, big-time blocks. Yash Nishman was down there with a block. And we're really one block away from a second and 28, 50-yard touchdown on a screen pass because of the effort of those guys. So it's more than just that, and I'm excited about getting Allen back. The conversations we had on the sidelines were pretty top level,

and we had some things we were trying to get to later in the game. We had a couple bonehead plays that kept us out of some more opportunities in the red zone and the field, but great having Allen back. us out of some more opportunities in the red zone and the field. But great having Allen back. And like I said at the game about Big Sexy Elton, the fact that he was out there, I can't tell you how proud I am, the extent of how proud I am of Elton. Just he'd been out for months and months,

ACL, rehab, and it's tough to get back out there and play after you've had a significant injury. You've got to get the confidence back and make a play. And for alignment, you're contact every single play. You're anchoring, you're setting, you're moving your feet. And Elton's played left tackle for us, left guard, center, and right tackle for us. So, yeah, I'm just so proud of him. You know, he had a couple plays I'm sure he wanted back.

But the fact that he was out there, that's what success is, and that's what being a warrior is. Here we go. I need the warriors to show up, you know, to prepare your mind and ready your hands for battle. And I'm really proud of Elton for the way that he stepped up. Big sexy. Steady the mind, prepare the hands for battle.

Let's go, Packers. Whole new team. Excited to see Bach get back. I think we all are. But you're right with that injury. Getting over the mental hurdle after an injury is a real thing, especially when it's significant and in a position that you have to pivot on all the time. Big sexy is a real thing, especially when it's significant and in a position that you have to pivot on

all the time. Big sexy is a fucking dog, it sounds like. AJ, your question, pal. I want to know how your body's feeling, Aaron. How's your body? You got smashed a few times, obviously, in the Vikings game, we know. Nate Weir was rubbing your neck on the sidelines. And not only did you get hit a few times this last game on Monday night,

but you also used your legs a little bit. You were fine. I think you might have got up to your top speed a few times. Like, how do you feel? I haven't checked the GPS yet to see how fast I got going. What's prediction? Hey, what's potential there, you think, miles per hour? I think 20, 21 probably.

Here we go. 24, yeah. Yeah, 20, yeah, maybe probably. Here we go. 24, yeah. Yeah, 20, yeah, maybe more. Who knows? You look fast forward. It's already gone. It's already gone. Yeah, look, you know, I had a read option there.

I had, I think, maybe a six- or seven-yard gain as well. So that's a plus, man. Five carries for 10 yards. A little lower than my average. You know, obviously, I didn't have a knee in there, which totally kills your, you know, your YPC. But, you know, the older you get, the more difficult it is, I think, on Mondays and Tuesdays. But maybe the easier it is to get through a Wednesday or a Thursday or Friday, if you will, banged up, because you're maybe just a little bit more used to what that level of 100% or your 100% during the season looks and feels like.

So neck is definitely a little bit sore. Body had overall some soreness, but I feel pretty good two weeks in. The thing I do feel good about is I ran to the sidelines that one time for like seven yards, big gainer, win the down and wasn't that tired a lot of times you know i sprint because not just seven yards you got to get the pythagorean theorem and you got to get certain you know distances you might run just to get out of bounds right of course uh sometimes i come back to the huddle and i'm like you know maybe bring a little heavy uh every now and then i know it's a seven yards so let's seven-yard, so I'm not looking for any major accolades here.

But as far as where my wind is at, not playing the preseason, I do feel like I'm in good shape. Seven-yard scamper to the sideline from the middle of the field. You start doing the math. The field is, what, 52 and a third yards wide. If you're in the middle of that thing, 53 and a third yards wide, so that's 26.75,.66 yards to the middle of that thing 53 and a third yards wide so that's 26.75.66 yards to the middle of the field a squared plus b squared equals c squared you do the seven yard

scamper you start doing the math you see this guy ran 200 yards gained seven that's unbelievable hey and you're not tired winning football that's what we need dude that's back to back mvp that's on back yeah all the way back. Younger than ever. You know what I mean? Yeah, it might have been that celebration that kind of got me rejuvenated. You know, the medicine just started spinning up inside me again. Yeah, the brain started remembering being down the middle of that jungle and just,

whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What the fuck is going on here it's awesome dude you like you can do it again you think the rest of your life you'll do ayahuasca if i'm called yeah but i well i don't think that was i don't think that was that was the last time what is that hold on just real quick uh so i have a friend named austin collie he was a mormon fella all right and when mitt romney was running for president, Austin Colley and I had conversations about what the person who's maybe going to be president believes in

because I'd never met a Mormon person before. So we broke down the entire thing during a 30-minute. Maybe I had, didn't know, didn't know. Broke down during a 30-minute cardio thing, broke it all down. He talked about the mission he went on in the middle of college. He broke the freshman wide receiver record at BYU, and then he was called to go on a mission from God for two years to Nicaragua where he wasn't allowed to use any technology.

He's working out on the streets down there. Is that what you're getting called? That was literally how he used it. Is that what you feel like happens down there? And are you going to get called forever, you think, because of how good you're doing for that entire plant garden tea that they got cooking down there? Well, I really enjoy the LDS reference. Thank you. Bring that into it.

Thank you for that. It's the same idea. It's just more of an intuitive feeling that it's time to sit with the medicine again. I think once you've sat with the medicine one time, you kind of know what that feeling is, that it's time for more lessons to be learned. And some people sit once and never feel called again, and some people sit 100 straight days and then still feel called years and years down the road to keep on doing it. I had such a beautiful experience this last time that I'm pretty certain it won't be my last, but I'm not sure when my next time will be. Can you? Is that something you can take numerous times?

Obviously, there are some drugs that kind of wear you out or whatever. Is that something you could potentially do forever? I'm glad you brought this up because i was wondering how i could how i could segue this but i'm i really want to go on a small tangent there with the word the word you just used because words are spelled right there's words are spells uh and they are spelled a certain way or pronounced certain way and there is power in the specific word so you just use use the word drug, right, to refer to ayahuasca. And I, and you know, there's been, you know, I saw a few articles people sent me about us doing the tea celebration. And I just want to stop you there right away, because the reference to ayahuasca,

you know, or even marijuana, putting the tag drug on them is a manipulative word that creates a bias against those specific things. And it happens all over society, right? Think about the word fat and sugar when it comes to food, right? Fat, you know, brings an image of unhealthiness and maybe obesity, death, where sugar is sweet, right? Sweet is kindness. Kindness is loving, right? So we have these two words that couldn't be more opposite, right? Fat, you know, high fat foods are actually usually pretty good for you. Foods with high sugar are terrible for you. And sugar, you know, you cut sugar out of your diet and it has an immediate impact on your cells and your body, especially if there's, you know, cancerous growth in your body or precancerous growth.

Sugar, not good for you. Fat, you know, most, you know, fats are pretty good for you. Fat, most fats are pretty good for you. Drugs, you think about drugs, you start labeling marijuana a drug, which is a plant. Ayahuasca a drug, which is a plant. Psilocybin a drug, that's a fungi. Also comes from the earth. Then you think about medicine, right? What is medicine medicine is like oh you know I'm gonna take my my daily medicine my

aspirin that's a drug right that's that's that's a drug I'm gonna take my you know cough medicine well that's a drug that's not the plant all right I'm gonna take my whatever fill in the blank, medicine that's a pharmaceutical. Those are drugs. Ayahuasca is not a drug. It has properties in it that have hallucinogenic abilities, but it's not a drug. We're talking about plants here. So I think it's a very important point to make. And this is how words are used in our society to create a bias against certain things. And I do think it's important enough to go on this ridiculous tangent that I went on

to remind people how words are used to create bias in certain situations. And those bias create fears, and those fears prevent people from doing the research themselves or looking into it or having their own idea or truth about a certain situation. Hey, great tangent.

Really think about the words that we use because words are spelled for a reason because they cast spells and create energy around positive and negative associations with certain things. Okay. Didn't get the last part, but everything else, valid. And I'm happy that I said that despicable thing about the plant ayahuasca. Despicable.

I'm really thankful because No, me too. I kept reading these articles talking about us doing a drug celebration, a drug this, a drug that. It's not a drug. It's a plant.

Yeah, now they're getting drug with what you just did. You know what I'm saying? What do you consider alcohol? Go ahead. now now they're getting drug with what you just did you know what i'm saying consider alcohol i mean alcohol from what like spirits booze that get you hammered white white talking about whiskey talking about bud light what i think that's what he's talking about. Well, I think a lot of it comes from what? Vegetables and plants and crops.

Rice. What? What? Rice. Now, some of those things have some genetically modified components for them.

But that's a whole different tangent. But I think that, you know, like for the most part, I think it's probably not, you know, a debatable fact that, you know, alcohol is, it's more of a depressant, right? And it doesn't make you contemplate the meaning of life for the most part or, you narratives that you've been grown up to believe to be true, the conditioning. Some of these other plants that are outlawed as, what's the term, Level one, not level one. Narconics. Yeah.

They're labeled as, you know, certain types of drugs. A lot of those make you question reality, question what you've been told. And most of those, nobody's ever OD'd from. A lot of people have drunk themselves to death. Well, they've made poor decisions. And caused some bodily harm, physical harm to themselves

and other people. But I have no problem with alcohol. Yeah, I can have a couple of wines. Tequila is supposed to be an uper. That's why you get a Terramona. What? Scotch. What? That's your thing, I believe, right? But I's why you get a taramana. What? Scotch.

What? That's your thing, I believe, right? But I'm happy you did this. Chippin' tequila? What? Anything else? This conversation has really taken an interesting turn, I like it. Well, it was my fault, I fucking said ayahuasca was a drug. That's 100% on me, because whenever you...

What? When you tied it into, when you tied it in with uh marijuana you really i'm like yeah you're right okay i apologize that that even happened i'm excited you got that off your heart because it seems like that's been something you've been cooking on for a little bit because all these people are saying this guy this guy goes and does this drug addict here somebody said uh i've puked for the colin cow said, yeah, I've done drugs and puked too. It's called a hangover, Aaron. One too many rum and Cokes.

Which was awesome. That was an amazing thing. Much different society. Ty has a question for you, Aaron. I don't know if it's about the term drug or not. It might be about some booze or the team. Excited to hear it. Go ahead, Ty.

Aaron, great win on Sunday night. Glad that I got to come in here on Monday. Just feeling great. Excited for another week. And I will sit with the medicine with you anytime, pal. So keep doing your thing. Love you. You mentioned Romeo having that big play on second and long

that set up Randall's catch on third down, which I think would eventually set up a touchdown. Sammy Watkins had the big chunk play. Are you enthused with what you've seen from these guys who are kind of unproven in the offense and at this point in the season how much is it you kind of bringing them along and trying to get them ready to go and how much is it uh the vets like randall and alan who are kind of like hey this is this is how things need to go for us to be successful ty great to see you you you. You look great. You sound great.

Hey, baby, it's us. Thank you. Not surprising. Another great question. To answer your great question, I will say I think it's as much me as it is Randall and Alan, those guys who played with me for a long time, just continuing to, as they watch the film back together, to talk about why certain things happened a certain way. But there's been a lot of great conversation throughout the weeks,

post-game, sideline, meetings, film review, things that have been really encouraging. It's just about opportunities for those guys. You know, I think Christian. I think Christian had a couple opportunities, but we've still got to find more ways to get him some specific plays. Romeo didn't have as many opportunities. Basie's had two screen plays, but we got to find ways to get him involved. Sammy had three plays called for him, and he caught all three of them. So that was good to see. It just depends on how teams are going to play us. The Bears really didn't bring any pressure, and they played a lot of two-show. So teams aren't going to bring a lot

of pressure and play a lot of two-show, then we're going to win in different ways. And it might not be with those guys getting a ton of targets. I don't think anybody had more than four targets the entire game. That's a little bit different kind of football than we've played in Green Bay over the years. First ball to Christian Watson week one. Obviously, we all know what had happened was. This time to him, a little short little pass to get him into the game. Was that obviously like, hey, Christian, we appreciate you. Let's get you on a good flow.

Is that an active thought by you? And do you talk to him before the game at all about bouncing back after a rough week one well that play had zero uh real read in it it was uh that was the play call it was him in a you know in a fly motion and me just making sure i don't throw the ball too crazy and try and get him one that doesn't move, like a little knuckleball to catch. So that had zero read into it. That was zero, you know, me, you know, sussing anything out. It was just, oh, okay, Christian's over there. Then he's going to run over here, and I'm going to snap it right there

so that I can toss it right there. Yeah, that was the whole play. But it's good to get the ball in his hands. He's so athletic. He's, you know, he's a long str. But it's good to get the ball in his hands. He's so athletic. He's a long strider. We've got to get him in space. Just get him comfortable running with the football. You know, like this, everything is new.

I get it. You know, he played in college and was a star in Romeo. Everybody in the NFL was a star at their college. But it's different in the NFL. You know, it's different when you're catching and running and stiff-arming. And you need to have those anchor plays where you can go back and go, oh, yeah, I remember when I had this catch and did this after the move and caught this ball and moved over here. It's just about getting those guys opportunities to kind of feel it out and get comfortable

and have those plays that they can lock in their memory and look back and take confidence from. Yeah, you need to get confidence rolling, right? Because it seems like you said that there's not a lot of dudes built like that guy you've ever seen. I think we're all excited to watch you two kind of get on the same page and see the growth because they invested in a wide receiver. So let's see what happens. Connor has a question for you, Aaron.

Yeah, Aaron, last year you said, you know, Justin Fields, you've got to honor what the Bears-Packers rivalry is. Did you get a sense that he was devastated enough after the loss? And if not, did you tell him to, you know, maybe go try ayahuasca so he could care a little more about the sport of football? Connor, you legend. I'm curious. Absolutely.

No, I didn't. We had a nice conversation. I told him after the first game, basically, to enjoy this rivalry. The first time we played them, just because it's so special. You know, it is for everybody the first time. It is a welcome to the rivalry moment. So there was a lot of first timers on that side uh that hadn't played in those games i've played in i don't know 29 of them i think now

that's a great rivalry and welcome to it how many wins 104 105 we got 104 as a team where it's 104 to 95 and i think eight times see that's a cool thing that doesn't happen right that doesn't happen anymore with even in college football there's still rivalry games but with conference realignment they don't seem to be happening as often as we had all hoped in the nfl you never see it because people leave teams and change teams there seems to be no loyalty between anybody for this it feels like you, and I don't know how others feel in the building, so I apologize. AJ would probably be able to speak better. It feels like you take great pride in the fact that this is a real rivalry and it doesn't

exist much. I remember last year you told Justin like, hey, why is that you think? Is it because just how long you've been in Green Bay and you know what the people feel like after a win? And does it actually affect how people feel when you beat the Bears versus somebody else? Yeah, I mean, I was out and about yesterday and, man, people were reduced. You know, they were rocking their Packers stuff. They were, you know, thanking me for how I played. They were talking about their own experience going to the game. There was a lot of happy people around town.

So that's, you know, that's usually the case. But think about, you know, Pat, how many, what other rivalry could you say in the NFL is similar to this? You know, that has a history and that also has, you know, at least a few players who've played in a number of these who kind of carry on that tradition. Like, is there another rivalry that you can think about off the top of your head that can kind of fit in this

category in the NFL? We were just kind of mouthing, I guess, Giants-Eagles, maybe, potentially. I think they hate each other. I think that's one of those ones. Cowboys-Commanders, but that's not the same thing anymore. That team's changed so many times. Yeah, I don't think so. You're right. It's named now, so it's not even named. Right, yeah. Yeah, it's only been the Commanders for a few years. Well, I watched that football game.

Look, this is my 18th year, so I've been a part of this. This was my, what, 36th time being on the field for a part of it. Obviously, I didn't start in a few of those, but it's a special experience. I've seen a lot of it. Obviously, I didn't start in a few of those. But it's a special experience, you know. And I've seen a lot of change on both sides. You know, Mason and I, Mason's been with us for, what, 16 years now. He's seen a lot of games. We've had guys on both sides of it.

You know, we had Julius Peppers, Paddle Donner, a punter was there. Lucas Patrick, who played with us, is over there now. Luke Goetz, he's been a part of the rivalry. Luke Butkus, the nephew of Dick Butkus, who wants to punch me in the face

like he's on our staff. So there's a lot of Jim McMahon. That guy wants to punch you in the face? What? Supposedly, yeah. Did his nephew tell you. That guy wants to punch you in the face? What? That guy wants to punch you in the face? Supposedly, yeah. Did his nephew tell you that, or did he tell you that on Twitter? No, he didn't.

No, he did an interview, and he said, you know, but he was mad about the fact that I said I owned the Bears, and that he would, you know, if he saw me, he'd want to punch me. Or, no, if he had been playing back then, he would want to punch me in the face. Which is kind of what you were looking for at that moment, too, right? I mean, you probably would have fought back, I think. Which is kind of what you were looking for at that moment too, right? I mean, you probably would have fought back, I think.

Well, a 65-year-old punching me in the face, I feel like I got, for the most part, a pretty good chance. What if he's fucking, what if you do? I fucking own you. I've always owned you. You turn around, Dick Buckus is on the field. Yeah. He fucking just comes over, and he does, and you two fucking square up.

That would have been so square up that would have been so awesome look mad respect he's a legend I got no beef with Dick Bunker he's a fucking legend he played and he also knows how special that rivalry is

so yeah when I say something like that it's triggering because it's a special rivalry right you know there's there's the mutual animosity but you can't really say what i said was not true oh record can bury the bears yeah it's awesome i love that you talk about it that way too because it's not normal for the NFL nowadays. Everybody wants to say the absolute right thing all the time. And you being like, no, this is a rivalry.

Our people like it more. We're trying to beat the fuck out of them. I mean, what are we even doing? Sorry about it. I think that's a beautiful thing, and that's why the NFL will continue to be the greatest sport on earth. AJ, your question. Well, yeah, it's kind of hard to argue with your record against them. But I wanted to ask, you mentioned Luke Goetz. I know he was on the staff last year or before, and now he's with

the Bears. They cut to you at the sideline all the time, you and Tom Clements, the quarterback coach who came back to town. How do you like having him there? And he seems to be a great calming influence on you when you're there punching Microsoft surfaces and throwing them and pointing angrily in different directions. What's it like having Tom there? He seems like he never reacts, and he's just like, all right, here we go, bud. We're going to just get it on out, and then we're going to go on the field next series. That's basically what happens. I feel like I could say almost anything, and he'd be like, all right, let's just, you know, let's make sure we throw the ball on time.

Let's have a better series. I'm just like, what could I possibly say that could really trigger Tom enough for him to not say, all right, let's go respond. Let's go out and get serious. But I love that call me and his presence. He's such a great guy and such a wealth of knowledge. There's always one or two things he tells me on the sidelines or pregame or, you know, on the bench there that really helps. And he's excellent coaching fundamentals.

He's excellent understanding the position. And it's a less is more, you know. There's a standard, you know, and the standard is up here. And it's not unrealistic because I've played at that level. But it's not coming down because I'm 38 or it's not coming down because we don't have Devante or whatever, you know, whatever you might put in there. The standard is the standard for Tom. He's seen me play at the highest level.

He expects me to still do it. I love him for it. And he's, you know, it's just, I shook his hand. And, you know, again, like you get older, things are maybe a little bit more emotional. I've seen you cry at the drop of a hat age all the time for no reason whatsoever. I'm not scared. I saw him on the sidelines in week one. I didn't mention this, but I shook his hand and I said,

Tom, it's so good having you back. hand and I said, Tom, it's so good having you back. And I, and it kind of hit me after I walked away, like how much I truly meant that. Like I truly meant how special it is to have Tom back because he was such a big part of my young career. And, and I owe him so much for the success that I've had. And it's just so cool to like bring it full circle and have him, have him back in town in my room. Hell yeah. It's great. I think that what you just talked about is a cool moment that you were so emotional that's why you guys didn't win because you saw tom back on the sideline you know that's basically what i just heard there that's that is a fucking cool thing though that you've been in the league long enough that this guy has seen you okay at different levels probably watched from afar and now he's back in there and

understands like okay sometimes aaron's gonna be pissed off and sometimes aaron's gonna expect something but he's allowed to and i assume that respect goes both way between you and tom and that's why i think we're all expecting an incredible season speaking of tom's um do you and tom brady text each other and say who can ruin a microsoft surface more me or you this week uh this week it was tom first week you had the early lead on him you know what i mean had early lead i didn't throw any services last no no no but he didn't do anything to a surface and he took the lead and will probably withstand the number one uh surface abuse for the season i don't know if anything will top that,

but that energy that he still has, he's saying, fuck you, bitch, to Marshawn Lattimore and throwing a surface. You are motherfucking whenever new guys aren't doing things. What do you think it is about you two that keep that drive? Because I think that is one of the most impressive things about this run. And everybody talks about Tom being 44. is you're 38 years old you've won the mvp four times back to back now you still have this like competitive what do you think it is and do you think you'll ever be able to get like lose that like will that ever go away you think well i hope so i mean i don't think i'm gonna be that weird you know uh parent in the stands watching their kid who absolutely loses their shit nonstop and can't turn off that competitive juice like I've seen from A.J. Hawk in coaching

little Lennon's games where he just can't realize these girls are 11 and nobody's going to the WNBA after the season, so maybe just chill out a little bit. I'm not going to be that guy. I don't think it's even possible. But as far as doing something that I love, that I'm really good at, and being highly competitive, I don't think that's going to turn out. Why would that? That's the drive to be the best all the time.

And every now and then they catch us doing some things. I threw, you know, threw, tossed a surface, you know, back against Carolina in, what, 2015. It's still a great meme where, you know, it's one of those things you'd think a guy's never going to be open. You look at the stupid, you know,

pictures on the surface, he's wide-ass open and you get pissed off because the game is basically over because he threw a shitty pick and it comes like i get it i totally get it uh after that i just realized maybe i shouldn't take it out on the surface surface did nothing wrong uh didn't make me you know start you know taking out of myself uh you know physically or anything yeah there we go there it is right there yeah Yeah. Yeah. Son of a... And Scott Tulzean's like, you fucking missed it.

Good teammate. Good teammate, you know, just piling on there. I think that want to be great still and still have the juice is a talent that not a lot of people have. And it's an honor to watch you keep going, pal. The hair's looking fantastic, by the way.

You should feel good about where it's at right now, I think. Thank you so much. I got to talk to Age, or sorry, probably Laura, about kind of what she sets out for AJ to put in his hair. Because I feel like there's times where it looks fuller than it actually is. So you get up close, you see there's a lot of thinning going on. And I just want to make sure that I know i'm using the right products uh as i get older uh so i gotta give laura a call probably after this see what he's uh what he's using on his hair but you got a great head of hair as well

now mine's getting thin as well i'm starting to get the peaks a little bit more i was going to grow along but my hair looks bad like that did you say i don't believe it did you say give me the aj hawk though when you got the cut is that what you said look how long it. Did you say give me the AJ Hawk, though, when you got the cut? Is that what you said? Look how long it is. Do you have, like, weird long parts in the back? It is super. It's got a pretty good flow. Who? Me?

You. Yeah, it's definitely, it's still a little long, but it's not that long. I feel like it's maybe just a tad longer than yours, but I got to get that product. You got some filler or something going on that you've been using. Oh, okay. You don't say. Wow. You got some filler or something going on that you've been using. Oh, okay. You don't say. Wow. Guy's cheating in his hair.

That's unbelievable. Hey, Aaron, you still doing coffee enemas? He's putting it up here, too. He's putting it right up here, too. Absolutely. What'd you say, AJ? I asked if he was still doing those coffee enemas. I know he said he's not doing sugar.

Are you doing that, too? It usually goes hand in hand. Get the caffeine, you're saying. Not during the season. I would. Hey, I would. Out of all the different types of enemas, coffee is definitely the best. Well, you did that one. What was that one? He was in the middle.

Poncha Karma. Poncha Karma. In the Poncha Karma, there's different types of enemas. You can do these oil ones, water ones, coffee's coffee ones. What? What AJ brought up was real? So that gives you what, just straight energy, straight to the ass? Like, hey, give me all the...

I didn't think it was a real question for the record. I thought it was a joke. Anyways, whatever you do, man, you're in the best shape of your life. You're playing football better than ever. And are you growing the hair for a Halloween costume? Have you thought about that already? that already been uh planned and prepared i don't know where else to go you know the two best athlete athletes two best maybe athlete athlete actors of all time actors first though actors slash athletes are uh keanu reeves and

nick cage so i've already dressed up as them over the last year. I don't know how to top that. I really don't. I was watching Life Aquatic back the other week. That was a great costume back in 2017. What else do you do? You pay homage to the two greatest actors of our generation. Is there a third that you would put in that category? Maybe Chuck Norris or Jackie Chan, I guess.

Paul Giamatti, maybe? A.J. Hawk. What? Oh, you could be A.J. Hawk. Oh my God. You're A.J. Hawk. As what? A.J. as his common McAfee show wear? A.J. as...

I think you put put the pads on I think you put the full pads on I think the Ohio State pads I think you should be Matt LaFleur You should trim up your eyebrows and be LaFleur Even better Put them in the khakis just do this all day Just do this all night at the party

And if they catch you on Snapchat or something You'll just be doing that As opposed to you know AJ what do you think? Or maybe I'll ask Ty first as a true Packer fan. Ty, what do you think about Matt, you know, trying to get the fans riled up? Do you think that's his job? Do you like it?

Do you not like it? Is it cool? Is it cheesy? What do you think? I'll be honest. I do not love it. I can't say it. I mean, it's fucking Lambo, Matt.

All right. The people are going to get loud. Okay, you don't need to be bumping them up. But I like that he's, you know, he's juiced up. He's ready to go. He wants the team to be successful. He wants the crowd to get into it. But rest assured, they're going to get loud. Especially if 12's out there.

They're going to get loud, okay? I'll tell you, I don't know if they probably didn't catch this on the TV broadcast, but it's one of those cool things when you actually go to a game that you would hear. But at the two-minute warning, the crowd started chanting, the Bears still suck. The Bears still suck. Oh, come on.

It means a little more. Yeah, that's right. And then they posted on the Jumbotron these videos, which are usually for our crowd, which is a loud crowd and incredible at the wave as well. I think it's a Midwest thing. But sometimes they do the wave around the stadium when we're on offense. So they have these, you know, these players on the Jumbotron that say, hey, shh, quiet or whatever. So it's a two-minute warning, and they're chanting this,

and they put up that PSA on the scoreboard, like, hey, offense is at work, be quiet. It was like three of our guys. It was like Sammy, Alan, and Bobby maybe. And I was like, man, fuck that. Let's hear that chant again. Let's go. Oh, so you did a –

It's 27 to 10. We're up three scores and we're kneeling it out three times. Come on, let's go. Oh, that is amazing. I love it. That was a cool moment. That explains the rivalry right there, I think. That, I hope, lives on forever.

And are we starting the book club this week or next week I mean I have one if we need one uh next to me we can we can go with it and then I think we do it and and start it off right uh the one that I really wanted to start with just to kick it off so super controversially I uh I don't know where it is I might have given it given it away so I might need to get another one. But I got one that's a great book that I read this off-season that is a good one to start with as well.

Do you want to go with it, or do you want to go next week? Either way. I think, ladies and gentlemen, it is time for a repeat of what happened last season, which took the book-reading world by storm. We could have never guessed

to be a part of something like this, but I think it became like the second largest book club. If you go by the numbers of subscribers and merch, maybe the second going second, the entire book club going raised a hundred thousand dollars for reader advocacy groups, which we've had numerous reach out. And now we got season two book one,

Aaron Rogers read this book this off season the first book of book club 2.0 is you're going to recognize this author from a book from the first year of the book club but this is another book by don mcgill ruiz and it's called the mastery of love oh of course let's go man I fucking love when this is talked about we love love around here yeah we love love here what's the mastery of love all about Aaron and when did you read it well at the top it says the practical guide to the art of relationship um but it's it's much like the four agreements, which I'm sure you remember all four of those. That was a book that he wrote as well.

You're going to go get it right now. And remember that it's important to be impeccable with your word and don't make assumptions and always do your best. And what else, Pat? What am I missing? Where did he go? He's off camera. He's trying to find it. Oh, here we go.

You're missing – I think it's underneath your thing. No, it's off camera. He's trying to find it. Oh, here we go. You're missing. I think it's underneath your thing. No, it's right here. Yeah. Dude, obviously. Hey, Don, let's get a little bit more creative with the cover. Yeah, come on. Master of Love. Very similar.

I mean, we turned that song a bit sideways. I mean, we got the. Hey, Don, come on. It's all about what's on the cover. I think that's the point, because a lot of times they're sold together. The Mastery of Love with the Four Agreements. And I think there's another book called The Fifth Agreement. Let's see here.

It's a lot of fucking agreements. But yeah, it's a simple book. It's only about 200 pages. But the simplest books often have the deepest wisdom in it. He's from the Toltec lineage, and he does a fantastic job of making complex subjects like relationships a little simpler to apply some of the wisdom from this book. So shout out to Don Miguel Ruiz. The first time we highlighted one of his books, The Four Agreements, he had a message of support for our book club and thanks for the recognition. So big shout out to Don Miguel Ruiz again. Hell yeah. Thank you for your books and for your incredible knowledge and how to live a better life. And I think one thing that you didn't mention

that i wanted to bring up here is breaking old agreements or breaking old habit or i don't see any of those pages dog you break uh no there's one right there always do your best always do your best i forgot about that one and it's not just about what you think is the best it's about what's the best for the situation that you're in that's right you've been saying it all week yeah and the fourth agree the four agreements are great. The fifth one's fantastic. And the mastery of love is really going to take us all to the next level, isn't it, Aaron? I mean, this is a beautiful thing, this Book Club 2.0.

Hey, I'm excited to bring it back. I'm going to match all the first-year donations. So I'm going to throw another $100,000 to the Book Club. And we're going to announce those specific reader advocacy groups that we're partnering with very soon. But big thanks to AJ Dillon and all of our other loyal book club fans. And again, read more, TV less. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah. Make your world a better place, smarter place. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah.

Make your world a better place, smarter place. That's right. More literate place. That's right. $200,000. Hey, thank you for that, Aaron. You're a good man.

Good guy. Good guy for that. And also, one more thing. This behind me, right, you know, these are real books, right?

I can take one off the shelf. Oh, yeah. You know, you know, right here. i can take one off the shelf oh yeah you know you know right here i can pull one off the shelf that's a real book see it's in my hand right now aj has fake books whoa me too aj got any books so no this is a backdrop from amazon i told you that three what dude kfay i don't need to pretend like I can read all these. These are fake. Man. I think there is one over my shoulder somewhere,

though. Ayn Rand is up here somewhere. Okay. All right, sweet. That's great. Really pumped for it. Thanks for it. Aaron.

Yeah, I got Ayn Rand somewhere. Yeah. Good. Sure, you guys call and read together, I bet. You can't see it here,

but I have some of the book club books right here. I got The Giver. I got Outliers. I got The Four Agreements from Don Miguel Ruiz right here. I got Where Men Win Glory. Oh, yeah. I got my own little. Hey, there we go.

Hell, yeah, dude. Hell, yeah. And then remember when you told people to read this in a one-week book club? You remember that? It's not a one-week book club. It's a year-long book club where we just get together and meet for, you know, 17 or 18 weeks. So we've got to, you know, inspire people to read. It's not, you know, what are we talking about?

We're talking about 16 or 17 books over 52 weeks. That's one book every three weeks. I don't think that was properly said last year then. I think a lot of people ourselves included thought we're on a week-to-week book club and maybe that's what scared us away from a little bit you know I mean because when you pop up a Bible and tell me that we're gonna talk about it next week there ain't no shot you know what I mean I'm not even giving it a go so I I think what the we're not that's the thing

we're not talking about it we're highlighting books that i love and that i recommend to people to read and we don't got to read it every week and they have entire year maybe to to go through a book club or actually honestly have entire lifetime do what i do just start stacking books all over the place and never read them you know that's a good policy hold on so that's what everybody's gonna now. You do read these books that you, like the mastery of love. But this is what happens. You start a book club

and then literally I get fan mail or friend mail. In the last year, I've probably stacked up 100 books that I didn't pay for that were sent to me, that were gifted to me. Some of them are like local writers you know that i need to be putting their book on the you know on the book club that's a

good idea some of my friends are sending stuff in some people i haven't talked to in a long time some of the random fans but it's probably been at least a hundred books uh that honestly i haven't got to because i have my own stack of like 20 that I'm trying to get to and get through. We're backed up on books already. I'm actually reading probably two or three of those at a time at the most. There's another hundred. How many brains is this guy? Because I'm not reading notes.

You're reading three books at a time, dude, and you're a back-to-back MVP at the NFL. Your brain bigger than everybody else's. Is that what you think? Are you a speed reader? You're reading both pages at the same damn time? You're doing two lines? How do you do it? There's just certain times where it makes sense

to have a book with you. So sometimes you might want a smaller book or one you can pick up and drop, like The Mastery of Love. Sometimes it might be a different book that I'm going to highlight later in the book club that's you know 100 pages that you can pick up and read 10 pages at a time and then sometimes you know there's a 300 page 400 page book that uh that that situation uh it calls for a book like that we have more time to read you might be on a flight or

or have you know three hour downtime at some point where instead of binging a show you want to read a book. Of course. And that's the thing that I think we just learned about old book club 2.0 is let's not rush ourselves here. No. Let's take this as a year long challenge. We all know you're not going to read them.

A little judgmental. I thought we were not supposed to judge a book by its cover or a tank top or whatever the case is. Let me finish my sentence. You're not going to read them if they're over 200 pages. Wow. A wise man once told me sometimes the simplest books

have the deepest meanings. Well, let me just say this one that we started with it's right at about 200 pages. Even the Berenstain Bears, it's too long for them. Well, with, it's right at about 200 pages. The Berenstain Bears, it's too long for them. Well, yeah, that's true. The Berenstain Bears are very short.

Last year we had what? The Boy, the Horse, the Boy, the Fox, the Horse. Yep, the Grandpa. I've read that one multiple times. Oh, I already have, yeah. But this one is the one I always go back to. Fingerprints of the God. Yeah, because I honestly believe we're supposed to read it every single week.

And I thought that was an impossible task. But Connor was trying to speed read these things. I was trying to find cliff notes because I thought there was maybe going to be a quiz each week and really had to chat about it. This one is really the one that really turned the page for me, not even to give it a go. Look, if you want to go to that and you want me to pick 200 page books that are shorter, I can create a list of questions that I ask you the next week and quiz you on the

motifs and things. Schedule's crazy. I just learned it's an entire year long thing. So give me more fingerprints. I mean, your schedule. You're doing the show Monday to Friday, is that right? What? Then you got SmackDown.

No, no, no. Hiatus on SmackDown. Hiatus on SmackDown. Okay. You're doing the show Monday through Friday. Yeah. And then you're doing college game day on Saturday. Yeah, it's awesome.

And then you're watching football all day Sunday because you got to talk about it during the week. Yeah, it's great. What? It's good. Catch me week 10. When are you working on your physique? Because you're looking good, man. You're looking ripped.

Hawk House in the new Thunderdome. Right over here. It's honestly right over here. Aaron, you've got to see this place. The gym that him and Schlegel put together, fantastic. Now, one of the companies that Schlegel told us to work with. That's the runaround. Come on, Schlegel.

Give us a runaround on running around a treadmill. Nonetheless, it is beautiful over here. So I think I'm going to get into like a little bit more of a schedule. So this is obviously set up here, Aaron, where I'm pointing right above my head. That's a golf simulator. That's a big wall that we need decorated. So any ideas out there? We are wide open.

We're thinking about. Yeah, go ahead. Psychedelic mural maybe would be good there probably. Oh. Hey, why don't you send your tat over? And then we'll just put it right out there. Super-imposed on there. That could be a cool thing. You said a psychedelic painting, you think?

A little bit of a splatter? A mural? A mural. Oh. You don't want that third eye staring at you all day, though. Yeah, it's looking out that way. It ain't looking at me. It's fucking looking at everybody else.

You know what I'm saying? And then the Hawk House is down over yonder at that hoop that I've missed multiple times today, but I hit yesterday, although it had the worst audio in the history of all of you. That's the Hawk House down in there. We'll debut it someday. We're going to give a full tour once everything's in there. You didn't, you know, I'm guessing you didn't call my friends at Power Lift. Well, we didn't. Well, we didn't.

Well, we didn't. No. That's kind of agent's fault. Yeah. I need to get there. What? To the Hawk House? Yeah, I need to get there in person and see what's going on

and see what it needs. There are a lot of accessories I'm looking for. Yeah, but Powerlift, I mean, was probably an option at some point. Yeah, he dropped the ball. What's that all about? Why do you think we don't have it in the Hawk House? Why do you think you chose not to have it? Because we know Aaron says, call my friends at power lift,

and then you ask Aaron, hey, what's your number? And then he flakes out and gets back to you six months later. Oh! I couldn't start that. Yeah, well. It's already tough enough in the supply chain. I love that no one AJ's triggered because he takes – most of his shots are very, like, you know, subvert.

But when it's overt, you know, when he really wants you to know to take a shot at you, that means he's really triggered by something you said. So good for you, man. Good for you, too. Sounds like you got him triggered as well. Sounds like it was a great ending to this beautiful episode two, season three of Great Toss There, Zito. Aaron Rodgers Tuesday.

Aaron, this ball goes in. We'll put another $50,000 into that literacy thing, and then we'll give away $1,000 to 10 people who randomly tweet this. Holy shit. If you make it I'll put another 50 on top of the 100 I'm putting in. Wow! Okay. Here we go. Pressure moment. Oh no. Hoops so big. Why didn't you try and bank it? Well, sorry about it. Nobody's going to read now.

That's 100% on me. Aaron, I appreciate you. I'm going to watch you this week. Get a little better at throwing so I make the shot. We'll do it again next week. Something magical will happen. Thank you so much for joining us, brother. Have an incredible week. Get a little better at throwing so I make the shot. We'll do it again next week. Something magical will happen. Thank you so much for joining us, brother. Have an incredible week.

Good luck the rest of the way. Thanks, guys. Take care. See you next week. Got it. Yeah! How you doing, Aaron? I appreciate you, brother.

Have a great one, brother. We appreciate you, Aaron. Yeah! All right, it's time to wrap up this glorious Tuesday. From myself to Toxic Table, everybody in the back, AJ Hawk. To all the construction workers and people that worked in this place, architects, people that helped with the design in the very beginning, we appreciate everybody for allowing this to be our job and our workplace. We will see you manana with a massive Wednesday.

Ain't that right, AJ? I can't wait. Hey, it's a big Wednesday. Mad Dogs with Stephen A. tomorrow, right? Yes, exactly. You get it. We all get it. We'll see you in about 20 hours and 18 minutes. You all are the best.

Hammer Downs on a hiatus while we figure out what to do with that show. Tone Diggs, obviously, new father. My baby Tony. Brand new father. Brand new father. Yeah. Congratulations. We will figure that out because we are all needing their bets on a daily basis.

Yeah. Absolutely. We at least need to hear Gumpy's brain on a daily basis. Right. Win. Yeah. Bad. Bad. Very bad. All right. See you all tomorrow. I wish I could have on a daily basis and win. Yeah. Bad. Bad. Very bad. Alright, see you all tomorrow.

I wish I could have made a shot for a giveaway. That's on me. I apologize. Fistball goes in. We'll give $100 to, or $500 to 10 random people that reach like this. Whoa. Man. That. Man.

That's tough. Just wasn't in the CADs. It's always tomorrow. Yeah. Tomorrow they're all good. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah, because if I make everyone, it's going to look like it's an easy shot.

It's not an easy shot. It's not. It's hard. No. It's really hard. Fucking impossible. Damn near. Different levels. Yeah. Phil's celebrating. We're hard. It's really hard. Fucking impossible. Different levels.

Phil is celebrating. We're not giving money away. Of course. CFF Phil, very happy. We're not giving away more money. We'll give away a lot of money tomorrow, hopefully, and we'll have a better show. We can't thank you enough for joining us. You all are the best.

Goodbye. Be nice to people. See ya.