The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 748 - Monday Night Football Recap, Aaron Rodgers Tuesday Season 3 Week 3, AQ Shipley LIVE In The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: September 27, 2022

On today’s show, Pat, AJ Hawk, AQ Shipley, and the boys chat about last night’s Monday Night Football game between the Cowboys and Giants, how Cooper Kush might actually be a guy, what’s next fo...r Danny Dimes and the Giants, if all NFL teams should be playing on natural grass, Lamar Jackson’s contract situation, any pressing injury news that we should be aware of as we move into week 4 of the NFL season, and much more. Joining the progrum fresh off a massive win in the GOAT Bowl in Tampa, is Super Bowl Champion/MVP, 4X MVP, proprietor of the Aaron Rodgers Book Club, Quarterback of the Green Bay Packers, Aaron Rodgers. Pat, AJ, and Aaron chat about the win in Tampa Bay, what he saw on the Jumbotron that had everyone talking Sunday and yesterday, his thoughts on the offense as a whole after a breakout game from Rookie WR Romeo Doubs, how nice it was having Bak back out there, he breaks down a few plays, chats about his respect for Bill Belichick ahead of this weekend’s game against the Patriots, and much more before debuting the 2nd book of this year’s book club (1:48:35-2:42:38). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It is Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, September 27th, 2022, and this sports show starts right now. Football is concluded with week three of the NFL season after last night's Monday Night Football matchup of NFC East rivals where the Dallas Cowboys and Cooper Cush go on the road to New Jersey to take on the New York Giants and get a big-time win. There was some fuckery with some calls. There was some magic that was made. There was big-time punts.
Starting point is 00:00:33 And Week 3 continued to be a week that we go, huh, this game's pretty boring. Yeah. This game's pretty boring. But you know what that means about Week 4? We got magic on the horizon. Starting on Thursday night with the white Bengal Cincinnati
Starting point is 00:00:48 Bengals playing host for a week four Thursday night football matchup. We'll watch on Amazon Prime. The Miami Dolphins and the electrifying Tyreek Hill Tua, Jalen Waddle, McDaniel and the boys will travel north to Cincinnati, Ohio. If you do recall
Starting point is 00:01:03 Thursday night football in Cincinnati. Oh, no. Was where the Urban Meyer train really got derailed. Almost a one-year anniversary. Yeah. Jacksonville Jaguars travel up to Cincinnati for a Thursday night football matchup. Short week. Obviously got to go home.
Starting point is 00:01:20 They lose. Urban Meyer is so fucking distraught. Has to go to his grandkids, which are nearby in Ohio. The chairman. Doesn't fly back with his own team. Okay? They said the, what, the captain of Titanic actually went down with the fucking Titanic. That's right.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Because it was their, it was his ship. George Clooney, perfect storm. Went down with the ship. Yep. Coach normally flies with team. Like that, hey, these are my men, you know. So whenever that decision was made, we all go, oh, is this guy maybe a dipshit? Perhaps.
Starting point is 00:01:51 No, he had to go with his grandkids. Remember, we were told we were bad people for asking that question because we had never heard ever in the history of the NFL a coach not flying back with his team, ever. Like, that's just not a – you think Lombardi said back in the day, I'm not fucking going with the boys. You think Bill Belichick after a game, because you know what, you guys fly back on that plane,
Starting point is 00:02:12 I'm going to stick around here, go on my boat for a second, and I'm going to go back home in the middle of a fucking NFL season. No way. That is what Thursday night football in Cincinnati can do. Thursday night in Cincinnati can bring something that has never happened before for the first time, can ruin an entire career, can set course maybe that these Cincinnati Bengals are all the way back
Starting point is 00:02:30 or are these Miami Dolphins really for real. One of the only undefeated teams left in the entire NFL is now playing on Thursday night. Can't wait to watch it. Can't wait for week four. And can't wait for Aaron Rodgers Tuesday where we're chit-chatting about a Packers win over Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Starting point is 00:02:44 That, Ty Schmidt, one member of the toxic table. Aaron Rodgers Tuesday is always a gloriousit-chatting about a Packers win over Tampa Bay Buccaneers. That, Ty Schmidt, one member of the toxic table. Aaron Rodgers Tuesday is always a glorious day, pal. Yeah, nothing better. There is really nothing better, especially when it's a victory Tuesday. And we actually have a decent amount to talk about. You know, they mentioned the scoreboard, food gays, or whatever you want to have. Jumbotron. Yeah, Jumbotron.
Starting point is 00:03:01 So very excited about that. The goat bowl, if you will. I mean, I said it yesterday. It's a great time to be a Packers fan, and I am very, very excited for this conversation today. I'm excited to hear what his thoughts are, what he heard, what he's seen on the Jumbotron that gave things away, and what does he think about going forward?
Starting point is 00:03:20 Him and Dobbs have got a good relationship. They do. At Boston Corner last night, Monday Night Football, Giants get a massive win. Cooper Cush, Central Michigan, I believe, right? Chippewa? Oh yeah, Lake City, Michigan as well. Full on redhead,
Starting point is 00:03:35 great beard, has the tight sleeves that go underneath the uniform all the way out to the pads right in the middle there. Suits him. Questionable swag, obviously, on Cooper Cush. He's a fucking player. Last night made some plays I don't think anybody would expect any backup to make. He looks comfortable.
Starting point is 00:03:52 He looks confident. He's delivering a rock, reading the defense. And remember when Mike McCarthy said, when Dak Prescott went down, the offense doesn't draw up too much with Cooper Rush. And Richard Sherman actually got a little bit of alarm for that. And when Richard Sherman saw it, I was like, yeah, that is an interesting thing. You just paid this guy a couple hundred million dollars guaranteed, and then you're saying the backup isn't that far of a drop.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Seems like a little bit of a disrespectful thing to say. Now, probably trying to rally Cooper Cush as well, trying to give him a little confidence. But as we're watching him, Cooper Cush might be a fucking guy, dude. There's going to be a lot of teams calling for the old Cush To come sign with him I think what he did last night was magical It was fun to watch on the old Monday Night Football
Starting point is 00:04:29 Yeah he's been in the pigskin And Zeke it felt like had his best game in a few years At least during this season was his best game Pollard had 100 yards on the ground CeeDee Lamb even though he dropped that Deep ball came back With a nice little one handed catch But yeah to your point Cooper Cush gives All teams hope D. Lamb, even though he dropped that deep ball, came back with a nice little one-handed catch.
Starting point is 00:04:49 But yeah, to your point, Cooper Cush gives all teams hope that their backup QB might be able to step in, win some games, and keep the season alive. Yeah, I think so. And people need to be level-headed about it. I don't think anybody expected old Cooper Cush to be what Cooper Cush is, except for maybe Jerry Jones. There's a video from Jerry Jones a couple weeks ago on what he was wishing people would be saying in a few weeks
Starting point is 00:05:07 after Cooper Cush comes in for Dak Prescott, after Dak injures his thumb, and he's maybe out for a week, week and a half up here in my mind. But doctors are saying maybe four weeks, five weeks, up here maybe one week. He said this about Cooper Cush and relief for Dak Prescott. So you'd want that? You'd want that controversy? Of course I would. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Of course that means we'd won. If he comes in here and played as well as Prescott played, Rush, played that well over these next games ahead, I'd walk New York to get there. Do you think he can do that? Well, I don't know that but uh i i would uh you can't find on record where i said i thought dak prescott could do it when he had the when he stepped in and had the chance to do that but he didn't hey he said listen i'm not you can go check what i talked
Starting point is 00:06:00 about when dak came in for old tony romo i never once fucking said he's going to be a guy, but I hope he's a guy. He just said he was hoping there was a QB controversy. The beginning of the question was kind of cut off there. I should have led into it better. But basically the conversation was, what if Cooper Rush comes in and plays very well? Will there be a quarterback controversy? And Jerry goes, I fucking hope.
Starting point is 00:06:19 That means he played good. He is playing very good. We have A.Q. Shipley joining us live on studio, and obviously we go in the trenches later today. Dak Prescott's an unbelievable quarterback. There's no reason for anybody to think that Cooper Rush is going to out Dak Prescott as the starting quarterback for the Cowboys, especially with the amount of money that he's been paid by the Cowboys
Starting point is 00:06:37 and everything like that. I think Cooper, though, has proven that he could probably play somewhere, AQ. Don't you think? You've been around a long fucking time in this league. I feel like the way he's playing his composure feels like his teammates believe in him he's making big plays when he needs them three straight starts three fourth quarter drive comeback wins i guess he's the only player in the history of the game that's ever done that he's like he might be a fucking guy aq hey he's doing really really nice things
Starting point is 00:07:00 for that team he's leading the team that's what you want from a quarterback. He's not turning the ball over. He's doing exactly what you want. And they may want a controversy, but they might get something in return for this guy at some point. So no controversy. Maybe there's a conversation for a couple weeks when Dak comes back. If Dak isn't 1,000%, Cooper Cush continues to do what he does. Trade deadline's coming up, though.
Starting point is 00:07:22 And if you can get something big, and Jerry might see a little bit of a move, there's numerous teams that are already thinking to themselves, fuck, we're already out of it. Maybe we can get a quarterback in there. Cooper Rush really building up that stock. We're not saying he's going to trade him. We're just talking about the number of outcomes that could take place. I love watching him.
Starting point is 00:07:37 And on the flip side, Daniel Jones. Okay. Matt Hasselbeck asked us yesterday. He did. He said, what do we know about Daniel Jones And first answer we gave Always going to hit the over rushing Yep for sure
Starting point is 00:07:51 He rushed for like 70 some yards last night He's over under for quarterback rush yards Was that like 58 or something like that Because the books have kind of got on to what we've gotten on to He will run He will gain yards Now everybody remembers him tripping and falling on his face in the middle of the open field that's gonna happen when you're so goddamn fast okay us normal humans would never understand what it's like to run that fast because daniel jones is flying okay
Starting point is 00:08:13 sometimes your heart and brain moving a little bit faster and your legs are able to keep up whether you fall right on your face on national television nonetheless still running very fast out the middle of nowhere he does that a lot uh kenny galladay's experience over there has been absolutely questionable it's a fact i put a lot. Kenny Galladay's experience over there has been absolutely questionable. I put a tweet out. The Galladay story is fascinating because obviously week one he gets no snaps, or week two he gets no snaps. He comes out and says he deserves snaps
Starting point is 00:08:34 and he's just doing what he's doing. There's obviously a little bit of tension because he's a $31 million cap hit next year. This guy. $31 million cap hit. That's more than I think like 20 of the quarterbacks or 21 of the quarterbacks next year or 24 of the quarterbacks. I forget the exact number, but nonetheless,
Starting point is 00:08:50 the contract he got from the previous regime is absurd. So everybody assumed whenever the new regime comes in, they see bad contracts, they're going to want to do away with that because everybody can be a cap casualty, especially if you weren't brought in by the previous GM. It is assumed that it was felt by Gallaudet in the building and also by the front office. It wasn't get as many plays.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Wasn't doing his thing. We're all confused because Gallaudet was a fucking guy. Oh yeah. It was fun to watch with Matthew Stafford. Oh yeah. Fun to watch with Matthew Stafford up there in Detroit. And it wasn't a lot to cheer for in Detroit. No.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Okay. They were losing. They're put on. Gallaudet was a guy reset the market. He goes to New York. He fucking stinks. Yeah. He is terrible.
Starting point is 00:09:25 I put a tweet out that the Gallaudet story is fascinating. Giants fans come flying in. What's fascinating about a guy fucking robbing an organization? That's true. What is fascinating about a guy that is completely screwed over an entire team and will be doing so for the next few years? Now, business is business. I'm happy Gallaudet got his money.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Players, the owners have enough money, okay? I understand that it's not great for the team setup for him to get paid as much as he's paid. I'm happy Galladay's made money. I assume Galladay didn't always have money. So I'm happy that Galladay has become a success story for he and his family. But, God damn, you can't bitch about how much you're on the field and how much you're getting the ball and what's being happening behind closed doors, and then you get a massive play on Monday Night Football that appears that you need it
Starting point is 00:10:04 and you got it and you actually, and then drop it, and then have no emotion. Yeah. No emotion. I thought he was going to slam his helmet on the side. So did I. I was like, oh, he's going to slam the helmet here. A little Ken Dorsey freak out.
Starting point is 00:10:15 This guy cares. Set it down. Turned around casually. Walked away. It was like, maybe he wants them to get rid of him. Maybe he's not that worried about dropping it because of how he feels behind the scenes, but that shit's wild to me, AQ. And that's the type of thing that can really, in a locker room,
Starting point is 00:10:29 cause a little dysfunction. And Debo doesn't want that at all with the new culture he's trying to build, I assume. No, it's crazy. It's absolutely crazy to see. He was a productive player for some time. Good, Allison Yard. So good. And now he's not getting any burn on the field.
Starting point is 00:10:43 And when he does does he fucking drops that one yesterday that's a big play third down and it was unfortunate that he did make a big play that was negated by a bad pass interference call that didn't even count oh yeah that was the biggest play of his day yeah sterling shepherd with the little get out of the way that was kind of bullshit yeah for sure it is just fascinating the gay experience with the Giants has been very fascinating. And we don't pay attention close enough because the Giants fucking stink. Yeah, they do. Okay?
Starting point is 00:11:10 We understand you're a big market. We appreciate that. Everybody in the big market talks about the big market teams. We're lucky enough not to have to. If you stink, we don't have to talk about you. That's right. Giants would probably be a cool team to talk about since we've been a show, never been a fucking team.
Starting point is 00:11:22 No. So it would be cool to kind of dive into the Giants' history and tradition and fan base, and I got to experience them last night. They're a passionate bunch with what they were saying about Gallaudet, but they have sucked for a long time. I feel like Wink and Daybow are going to be able to bring them back to prominence, but it's very apparent it's going to take some time to figure it out. And very apparent that, see, that's what I don't understand is, like,
Starting point is 00:11:42 Daniel Jones doesn't stink, but he's clearly, like, he's not going to get another contract with the Giants. He's not the guy moving forward. It's just as simple as that. You can tell when you watch. Like could he be a pretty formidable backup for some other team? Absolutely. Like he's definitely good enough to do that. But you play in that market.
Starting point is 00:12:00 He's just not the guy. Like if Cooper Cush would have been playing for the Giants last night, I think they would win that game. Giants win. It's hard not to say that. Yeah, it is. And then with Galladay, it's so blatantly obvious that he's checked out. It's not like in two weeks from now a switch is all of a sudden going to flip
Starting point is 00:12:17 and he's going to be the guy he was in Detroit. He's done. He doesn't give a fuck anymore. And nobody's going to pick up that contract. No. So he's stuck. So you've got to figure that out. That's almost one of those things that Dayball and Douglas and them over there,
Starting point is 00:12:28 you look at that contract, you're not able to get out of it. You're not going to be able to trade anybody for this. That restructure. So you either just take it on the shins and get them out of there, or you have to make right with him almost. And that's a weird thing to say, but it is kind of like the bed that has been made for them in the previous regime. It's wild.
Starting point is 00:12:43 I mean, it is absolutely wild to watch Daniel Jones continue to just be mediocre. Seriously. That's where he's been. He's literally somewhere in the middle. He has some days, and most of them are just mediocre at best, and you rely more on his running anymore than his passing, and you just can't do that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Also, he's had what four ocs in five years three ocs in five years like and they talked about it last night he's had the most pressures in every single year that he's played for the giants i mean obviously the last regime they put a boatload of money into a guy who fucking stinks at wide receiver he's got a second year left tackle a first year right tackle like i do you know obviously don't think daniel jones is gonna lead a team on his own and win because of him as dan orlovsky says but i don't think he's really had a good chance either it's not like sterling shepherd's their best receiver and he gets hurt every single year yeah so it's tough if you're in the daniel
Starting point is 00:13:40 jones camp there's a lot of things you could say you know about, our guy got completely fucked. Saquon. I mean, this guy Saquon's been hurt basically every year. There's no offensive line, new offense coordinator literally every single year. Daniel Jones' team has a lot to say. And to your point about people getting injured and not having weapons, Sterling Shepard officially did tear his ACL. Ian Rapport is reporting that Giants
Starting point is 00:14:00 coach Brian Dabo is reporting that the wide receiver Sterling Shepard has torn his ACL. His season is over. Fucking shame. He had Achilles last year. Battles all the way back. Has a big game. Starts to have a big-time game.
Starting point is 00:14:11 And then in a non-contact injury, just jogging a basic, like kind of a straight route almost, a go route, thing just blows up on him in the middle of the game on turf, which led to a conversation from Odell Beckham Jr. that chimed in basically saying every stadium needs to be grass. We have enough money to make everything grass. This turf is problematic, which leads to another conversation that is very interesting.
Starting point is 00:14:34 The NFL can't afford that. Oh, yeah. Every NFL team can't afford that. It feels like every Premier League team has the ability to have grass. Now, they're running like eight miles a game over there. If they were to have turf, everybody's knees would be blown up but it feels like every other big league in the world that revolves around their players running things have grass and have the ability to do grass you see that stadium in phoenix yeah it basically in the middle of the desert
Starting point is 00:14:57 figured out how to have a grass field because that motherfucker takes a walk outside the grass takes a walk outside gets the desert sun then it comes, gets the desert sun, then it comes back in. Then they've got this other thing that comes over top of it that shoots a perfect amount of water on it, like the farmers do out there in the middle of America doing the good old shit with the Joan Deere tractors and such. That's right. They have that whole thing in there. So they have the sun regulated by walking it outside. They come in, they have the water regulated.
Starting point is 00:15:21 It's like, why doesn't every team invest in that type of thing? You have the ability to do so. It seems like it's going to save a lot of people's injuries. Now, is the Sterling Shepard injury going to happen on grass or on turf? I guess we'd never be able to tell, but it feels like the turf injuries seem to be a lot more gruesome because of the lack of give. And I know the original AstroTurf back in the day, that green shit.
Starting point is 00:15:43 That was just carpeting. It was literally just carpeting way back in the day and i don't know if it's because of turf that he tore his acl just jogging down there we just saw the clip and it is these are the most nasty ones yeah the ones with non-contact means it's just something just completely popped your body just said nah for whatever reasons and we can't say that it was definitely the turf that caused it but it it definitely led to Odell Beckham Jr. talking about it, which he has gotten injured on turf before. Why not have grass on everything? If it's potentially a saver, Odell Beckham Jr. says,
Starting point is 00:16:14 just get rid of it all fucking together, bro. Billions made off this game. I can't understand why we can't play on grass. That shit is rough. Praise up for my brother. Shit just hurt my heart. Now, I put an X in instead of an I because Odell Beckhamham jr is cooler than us that's right that is what he did but that is a lot of guys say this especially the running positions guys have got to run and run and run they're like hey we
Starting point is 00:16:32 are pounding the shit out of our joints on this can we not just get some grass and just be a little bit softer on all of us well and i think that's the key is you hear most players who say yeah we would much rather play on natural grass and it's not like at this point they don't know how to do it in different cities. Like you mentioned Arizona. Like there is a tried and true way that you can, if you're in a climate that maybe isn't conducive to keeping the grass nice year round, like you can do it. They've figured it out.
Starting point is 00:16:58 I know a guy, okay, his name is Stank, okay? Sure. Stank was able to grow weed, weed okay behind a false wall in the middle of morgantown with zero light capacity or moisture control okay this guy was able to have fucking gross show behind a fake wall no lights nothing because the way science has it set up where you can just have literally the perfect amount of uv rays in this thing the amount of thing he was a genius stank was a fucking genius when he came to this type of thing i think he was in agriculture i believe he was he was utilizing his entire thing like you have enough money even the cities that are just in the middle of like winter
Starting point is 00:17:36 and whatever there's something that you can cover up and put your false wall behind like stank had over top of that thing and monitor that grass because that is very important to the entire outcome of your product i just for me i love turf because i kicked on turf yeah in turf there's always a perfect always a perfect ball always set up there so grass isn't fucking with you you knew exactly what you were going to get from my position but it seems like all the guys that are making a lot of money in the league in you know generating a lot of the capital for the NFL are all like, hey, we all believe that we should be able to run without being sore every single goddamn day on our knees.
Starting point is 00:18:14 AQ, you're a big body. Obviously, you played in the NFL a long time. Big guys don't mind if it's turf or grass, do they? It's more of a skill position thing, or is it big guys as well, and I'm just kind of being a sizist here for you? Yeah, you're a complete sizist. I mean, this is – big guys hate it. More than anything –
Starting point is 00:18:29 Hate the turf? Hate the turf. Okay. More than anything, it does. It makes your body sore. It's like running on a basketball court or concrete. It is definitely a harder surface than grass. When we would get out of training camp in Arizona,
Starting point is 00:18:42 we would go back to our facility, and the first three, four weeks is always 110 degrees, and the veteran guys would always push like, hey, let's practice outside, even though it's 110, just to be on the grass so you're not inside in the bubble. Okay, so we'd rather take the sauna than the beating, basically. So that's what people are deciding. They're deciding to go into a hot sauna to work out as opposed to a room temperature 70 degree one because of the beating that the turf gives.
Starting point is 00:19:10 So that's the big guys. Skill guys already hear what they're saying. I'd assume defensive players enjoy the turf. Do you, Lyman, enjoy the turf? I think period. I think it's universal. I don't think anybody enjoys it. I really don't, except for kickers and punters.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Yeah, we don't have to run. I don't have to run, so it's fucking awesome for me. Was it last year or two years ago where there was three or four people in the first two weeks who tore their knee on MetLife? I think Bosa got hurt, Nick Bosa got hurt there, and it was a conversation then
Starting point is 00:19:38 like, hey, MetLife has to change this. I don't know if it was turf as a whole, but MetLife specifically I know is giving guys problems. So we were talking about this earlier, and it led to another conversation that's currently taking place in the NFL so Hurricane Ian I guess is about to be a real motherfucker yeah okay the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have already evacuated Tampa they're training in Miami currently because Hurricane Ian is coming up through the west side of Florida and then about to go across the top of Florida it seems like into it seems like, into the Carolinas.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Right into the Carolinas. Yeah. College game day this weekend. Right into there, you know? Hope everything's okay. Hope everybody's safe. Obviously, it's no fun at all. I don't know hurricanes at all. I'm from Pittsburgh. Went to West Virginia. I live in Indiana. I go to Florida. It rains. I think it's a hurricane. They say, oh, this ain't a hurricane. And they're right. I've never been a part of an actual hurricane. Sounds like a hurricane is just when the sea and the sky say, fuck you, right? And there's no control in that at all. I think it's pretty inconsistent. I think they're not 100% sure where it's going to go. Tampa evacuating makes me seem like the people in Tampa who probably understand hurricanes a little bit thought that they were
Starting point is 00:20:39 probably going to get fucked by this. So they evacuate. Now, the game this weekend that they have was supposed to be in Tampa Bay. They are now looking for other venues. It was reported, I believe, by Palisaro, the arrow that maybe Minnesota would be a place because Minnesota's playing in England against the New Orleans Saints, so their stadium is vacant. They also talked about maybe other Midwestern teams that have an away game that their stadium will be open. Talking about what we just talked about earlier, AQ and I and the boys got into it. It's like Tampa is a grass field stadium. There's no way that Tampa is going to want to go to Minnesota whenever we looked, the Tennessee Titans potentially have an open stadium this particular weekend, have a grass field. Maybe
Starting point is 00:21:22 they'll be there. So I'm not sure it's 100% locked in, but those are the types of things that teams are thinking about when they're going to decide where they're going to play a game as opposed to their home stadium. So we want to take another week of wear and tear on somebody's turf on their legs when we don't have to, if this stadium is available and they have grass. It's legit. That's why what Odell tweeted and what happened with Sterling is so important because that shit actually matters to the people that are actually playing the game and aq i don't know if you want to echo my sentiments or add on to it we kind of had that conversation earlier but i think it was a good one like i think that's a solid conversation to have right now i think so too and i think if you look at that tampa team they are pretty banged up already not to mention
Starting point is 00:22:03 they have a 45-year-old quarterback that probably doesn't enjoy running around on turf either. So that would be – He has pretty good pull too, I think. Yeah. Probably. I'd say. He's pliable, though.
Starting point is 00:22:14 He can move around pretty well. No, but I think what happened to Sterling Shepard last night is terrible. We are all – hey, Godspeed to Sterling Shepard, okay? Godspeed to Sterling Shepard. Hope you get back. That's tough after an Achilles. That is just, that's a tough double whammy mentally. Hey, come on, man.
Starting point is 00:22:31 We hope you're all right. It's going to suck. We hope you're okay. But it leads to a conversation that happens on a regular basis, then it kind of disappears because there's a lot more spectacular things to talk about. Let's just get grass in these stadiums. And let's maintain them. Because the shitty grass fields are fucking terrible too.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Because the shitty grass fields become the excuse for teams not to get grass fields. Because they go, oh, you want to have what Pittsburgh had for a long time where they're just spray painting fucking dirt, basically. Chicago was a shit show for a long time. Washington. No, there should be a standard. Like, I assume the Premier League has,
Starting point is 00:23:04 because soccer ball rolling on the field has to be. There should be a standard. Like, I assume the Premier League has because soccer ball rolling on the field has to be... There should be a standard for what the goddamn grass is. If we're not going to get a dome everywhere, which I'm a big proponent of. Sure. Put a roof over everything.
Starting point is 00:23:16 They're doing it in Chicago. Yeah, they are. It's already being talked about. Mayor Lightfoot said we're putting a fucking dome over this thing. And I said, hey, Mayor,
Starting point is 00:23:24 I don't know about everything else you do, but I'll tell you what, I'm a fan of that move. Yeah And I said, hey, Mayor, I don't know about everything else you do, but I'll tell you what, I'm a fan of that move. Yeah, I'm bored. All right, I don't know about any of your other policies or how you've handled yourself. Seems like everybody does not like you. Seems like both parties are done with you at this point. But if you want to put a dome over the Chicago field, I'm with it.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Okay, I am absolutely with it because I'm a kicker and I'm a punter. And I love that type of thing. But I do understand, you know, the snow falling in Lambeau is just... Nothing better. Do you like retractable, at least? Yeah, I like retractable roof. I like the option. I like the option.
Starting point is 00:23:52 But if we don't have to deal with 55 mile an hour winds, like, I'm okay with that as well. It's terrible for the game. New England-Buffalo last year, okay? Oh, yeah. Buffalo finally has their team to go against this New England team. And because it's fucking 75 mile an hour wins we get 7 pass attempts
Starting point is 00:24:08 from Josh Allen it's a prime time game too it's awesome but you know why they're changing rules? because it's not awesome they actually like offense they like the ball thrown around put a dome over everything
Starting point is 00:24:21 let the kickers and punters be happy I'm only saying that as a former punter so people that are going to be like you're, you're soft. Yeah. Okay. I am directly as a punter, but the grass field have a fucking standard. Have it just have to be a certain length. Have it be a whole thing. They could do that. And I assume there's some stank motherfucker out there that could probably build a whole thing for them. The technology that they're using on these farms nowadays. That's unbelievable. With the seeding and the watering and everything they have.
Starting point is 00:24:52 That'd be something I assume some fucking farmer genius, hillbilly, brilliant, connoisseur of fucking growing stuff could figure out for the NFL. Remember that stadium we showed? it was from england i think that it was all underground had like all the hydro stuff yes tottenham care of it all yeah new stadium yeah the field and if they had a concert that fucking grass would go down and then the concert thing would go up and then the lighting would still be on the grass so it's still getting uv rays and water and everything that's what i'm talking about like and there has to be a way to put like i don't want to say bounce to it but if you put that grass on something that has a little bit of give you're probably going to get an even better brand of football like honestly
Starting point is 00:25:32 don't you think you'd probably get an even better brand of football 100 i think everybody loves grass and i think vegas even copied arizona i think they're doing the same thing with the tray that comes out yeah it's thick enough they're able to have the soil the with the tray that comes out. Yeah. It's thick enough. They're able to have the soil, the dirt, the grass. Everybody should be able to do it if you can keep grass alive in that fucking weather. We care about player safety, don't we? Player health. Goddamn right. Pleasure to be here.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Or say we do. Yeah. Do we actually care or not? Huh? You tell us. You tell us, dude. Do you care about this thing? Yeah, you do, right?
Starting point is 00:26:03 Changing helmets, wearing Guardians? Yeah, they're huge. How are they going to walk gonna walk without these how are you gonna run routes without these you can't let's take care of these two huh roger can't wait to hear roger have to tell all these billionaires all right so there's this new thing we're doing hear me out it's going to cost an extra $10 million a year for every single stadium. Oh, fuck! Dude! Nope. Fuck off! Send it back.
Starting point is 00:26:29 Oh, ask Mara. Hey, Mara, by the way, your team stinks again. You guys started undefeated two games, then the whole thing stinks. You think he was happy to lose Sterling Shepard with how much money he's paying him? Mara, why don't you tell him that if we would have had grass, we don't do that. Is that cool? How about you, pal? Odell Beckham Jr., like him getting hurt in the middle of the Super Bowl?
Starting point is 00:26:43 You like that? Boom. You like that? I would like Roger Goodell to do that. Probably would never happen. Well, yeah, but they're going to London this weekend. Like, let's go to Tottenham. Let's find the information.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Let's find the fucker that built that thing, and let's bring him to America, and let's have him put those retractable, you know, fields, grass in every single stadium. Yeah, steal the blueprints. Yeah, steal the blueprints. Exactly. Steal the blueprints. You're over there already. It's simple. Find the lag's stadium. Yeah, steal the blueprints. Yeah, steal the blueprints. Exactly. Steal the blueprints. You're over there already. It's simple.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Find the lag's house. Yeah. Show them the decoration. Sorry. Find the lag's flat. There it is. Go right in there and steal the blueprints. Remember the tea party?
Starting point is 00:27:18 How'd that end up here? England, just give us the blueprints or else we'll take it. We'll dump the tea. They haven't forgot. No. You want that type of turmoil with brand new King? No, not a chance. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:27:29 That King's fat fingers? You think he's going to be bending over backwards to help you if you don't just hand him over? I don't think so. King got fat fingers? Oh, my God, yeah. They were giving it to him. Yeah. He's got saucies.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Oh, little pork sausages. Worst I've ever seen in my entire life. They look like inflatable balloons. It's got saucies. Oh, little pork sausages. Worst I've ever seen in my entire, they look like inflatable balloons. It's terrible. So if I do recall, a foot, right, measure is the size of a king's foot. Yeah, that's how they came up with it, right? Right. And then like the king had the sizes, like things were based off of the king's sizes.
Starting point is 00:28:01 What if this is what the new sizing for fucking fingers? What if that's the new normal thing? Is that the new guy? If that's the new normal finger. So he got stung by something, right? Right in the arm? No, he's actually just never used his hands a day in his life. He's never wrote anything.
Starting point is 00:28:18 He's never carried anything. Actually, the hardest thing he's ever done is put that ring on his finger, and he hasn't been able to take it off because it's so fat. And literally, so you know, like the worst thing he's going to have to do is get that thing off. Oh, yeah. Exactly. They're going to have to.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Yeah, they'll let him die. He's going through something. That ain't healthy. I don't know. They did release like a list of his demands every morning when he wakes up. It showed him signing like his first royal decree, and this fucking doofus spilled ink all over himself.
Starting point is 00:28:47 He's like, oh, this bloody ink. I hate this. He's a dipshit. He really is. He wrote the wrong date on the thing he signed. His wife had to tell him, like, hey, that's not what today is. You get some free time to Google what this guy does every single morning
Starting point is 00:29:03 when he wakes up. Check it out. It is unbelievable. That's why the queen lived till she was 98. She's like, can't let this fucking. Pretty much. The world will end if I fucking die. My son is a dipshit.
Starting point is 00:29:15 That's what she said. He's pretty old too, honey. Yeah, he's very old. 76 or something. He carries around a little box that has like biscuits and jelly in it everywhere ted lasso kind of like ted lasso this guy's a ted lasso king i mean that might be a stretch because ted lasso although he seems like a dipshit he's actually pretty heady you know pretty intelligent can get through to people great at darts great at d Great at darts. This guy is just a dipshit through and through.
Starting point is 00:29:46 And kind of just lucked in to becoming king. Well, I think everybody that's ever become king. Well, true. That's kind of how it works. But if you take a temperature on the people in England right now, I don't think they're doing cartwheels that this guy is in charge. God save the queen, they're saying, huh? Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:30:02 God kill the queen. They want the other kid? Yeah, they want Markle's brother-in-law, whoever he is. William or Harry. Not the redhead. Yeah, not the redhead. The other one. Harry.
Starting point is 00:30:11 Harry. Harry. Harry. Harry. Wasn't Harry, isn't he married to Meghan Markle and William? Who? Bill. Yeah, William.
Starting point is 00:30:23 No, Bill was with Markle for sure. Bill King. I don't know who's who. King Bill. King Bill would be sweet. It's got a good ring to it. God, imagine fucking Bill McComas walking around. Oh, my mom.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Well, I mean, that is his RuneScape character, King Bill, so I think he does do that anyway. His what character? RuneScape. What's that? It's an online community of people who play games and they pull each other's butt because they're so bored. Hey, look, I'm just telling you the facts here.
Starting point is 00:30:51 What's your problem? What do you mean? We're talking about King Bill. We're trying to. Yeah. Did you say something about pulling a plug? A pud. Pulling each other's puds.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Oh, even worse. Exactly. They would pull each other's plug because RuneScape is a cutthroat game. A lot of savages on it. Bob Baloney's? All right, let's move around. There's some other stories to talk about. So the Kings of Dipshit?
Starting point is 00:31:14 Yeah, big time. Everybody thinks it. Yeah. All right, so we didn't just offend an entire little tiny island that's smaller than Pennsylvania that's a country. No. You all need to fucking relax over there, by the way. His first day in office. You guys are about this big. No. You all need to fucking relax over there, by the way. His first day in office. You guys are about this big.
Starting point is 00:31:27 You guys used to be. We heard all about it. Twitter reminded us of all the things that you guys have done. Whenever the queen passed away. I got massive respect, though, whenever they're for NFL game. Everybody had a great personality.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Everybody was incredibly nice to us. I think I actually very much enjoy the English folk. Cool accent. Very cool accent. But India doesn't forget. Not just them. There's a lot of folks that didn't forget. I realized whenever the Queen passed
Starting point is 00:31:58 because Twitter became one of the most electrifying places of all time. Now, if you were a Queen, member of the Queen's family, or a member of the most electrifying places of all time. Now, if you were a member of the Queen's family or a member of the fan club of the Queen, which there was a lot of people, probably not a good night to be on Twitter. But if you're just kind of indifferent about it all,
Starting point is 00:32:16 like, yeah, I don't understand why this is a thing still in America, but I appreciate that it is a thing for other people, Twitter was the greatest place on earth whenever that Queen passed away. Rest in peace to her, obviously. Of course, RIP. When we look back on it, though, okay, remember when the queen died? All we'll think of is...
Starting point is 00:32:32 It was Twitter. There was 545,000 tweets burying the queen, and it was hilarious. Well... For some people. For some people, not for all people. For me, it was fucking hysterical.
Starting point is 00:32:43 So funny, dude. There was some sheer yeah the crown you know the real internet the internet showed up though yeah you know what i mean like all all facets of came together yeah yeah i mean it was hey let's put on a show today so i assume this new king is happy that that is still hat like still the is this is this king getting murdered by everybody on the internet or people just don't care enough no i think if people don't care then they're indifferent regardless but anyone who does care is like yeah this guy's a fucking dipshit you know long may she reign okay
Starting point is 00:33:17 well if this dipshit gives us the blueprints that have taught them uh stadium so we can put them in all the nfl stadiums saucy fingers is good by me. I love him. All right, I love him too. Let's get some grass in those fields, Goodell, huh? Let's do it. Better yet today. Wouldn't the owners want to do this, though,
Starting point is 00:33:35 to protect their players? Did you hear what it would probably cost? $10, $20 million, who knows? What the owners want to do is protect this. You are awesome, Tito. That's like one of the coolest. See, I love you, man. There you go.
Starting point is 00:33:48 It all comes down to the cost of maintenance. No maintenance on turf. No, let's talk about it. Zito, though, that was like very genuine, it sounded like. Wouldn't these guys want to protect their players? Yeah, you would hope. You would hope that's the case. And I think, you know, we'll move to a society.
Starting point is 00:34:04 This is once again the same thing where, like, we can hope for something and still realize what the reality is though sure we're all working towards what we're hoping for but we have to recognize that this is actually where we're at right now a lot of people think we're here hoping to be here and just fail to realize that this is actually what this place is okay Okay. In this particular case, the NFL is a business. So although there are some owners, I feel like who genuinely have the player's best interest at heart, that's not necessarily the case for all teams. AQ just gave me a look and said,
Starting point is 00:34:34 some owners, huh? I think he expected me to say no owners. I do believe there are some owners who have the player's best interest at heart, maybe even over the bottom line, but this clip from a slow news day, which is by Kevin Clark of The Ringer, Spotify, talking to Ed Reed, is a beautiful, beautiful depiction of what the NFL is viewed like by players
Starting point is 00:34:58 and by the NFL and by the fans. Ed Reed, I believe everybody agrees, one of the greatest players of all time, one of the coolest players of all time, maybe one of the most well-liked players of all time by all parties, by all teams. Teammates, coaches, other teams, other players, other fans, everybody fucking liked Ed Reed. Here's Ed Reed talking about the Lamar Jackson situation.
Starting point is 00:35:23 And at the beginning of this answer that we don't have on here, Ed Reed says, I'm not talking about somebody Lamar Jackson situation. And at the beginning of this answer that we don't have on here, Ed Reed says, I'm not talking about somebody else's business, but since I am an analyst, I will give my analyst description of what my advice to Lamar Jackson would be. Listen to how he talks about how the NFL is as opposed to what we think it
Starting point is 00:35:40 is or what we hope it is, how it actually is and how players view it because they've been through it and had to live it. Here's Ed Reed on Slow News Day with Kevin Clark, a show from The Ringer. Well, I'll just give him an advice. You know, I mean, he's in season now. He's playing. I know he's not practicing either yesterday or today.
Starting point is 00:36:00 You know, so, you know, he's just got to be smart. You know, I'm not telling him to play scared or anything because i don't think he's going to do that he hasn't displayed that um but he has to be smart you know because it is a business you know and they will use that shit against you you know whether you like it or not you can think these people love you you know they're showing their true colors right now you know and There's no shots at the Raiders because they're an organization that's a business. It's a business first.
Starting point is 00:36:30 It's the NFL and it's football to the players and us and we love that. It's a business first to the league. I experienced it. I know it for a fact. It hasn't changed. That's just the way it is, man.
Starting point is 00:36:48 And you got to know how to operate your business. It's the real world. It's no different than being in any other business. It's no different than being in another business. So what he's talking about is basically, hey, the NFL is a business. So Zito's saying, oh, don't they want this for the safety of their players? Yeah, I guess in theory, publicly, they would want to say that. But at the end of the day, the NFL, the players, the stadium, the field,
Starting point is 00:37:14 everything is to garner capital. It is a business. And they're running business very, very good. Now, that is why when you start to word things like this, and we obviously all believe that Lamar Jackson needs to get paid, pay that man his money. A lot of it. You're looking like assholes every week that goes by and how Lamar
Starting point is 00:37:32 plays for not paying him his money. Even if it's not, you know, how much you think he deserves, the Cleveland Browns just told you exactly what he thinks he deserves. And that's how business is done. Business is to be done how business has been done. The Cleveland Browns paid Deshaun Watson $230 million guaranteed.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Lamar Jackson says, hey, I'm just doing how your business is done in your league with your fellow owner. This is what I command. And it feels like everybody is on the same page as Lamar saying, pay that fucking man his money. Every Ravens fan says, fucking pay this guy, which is rarely the case because normally the NFL team will do a full marketing push of what they actually offered, why they think it's fair, some other stuff through some sources, through some media people. Hey, let's get this narrative out there so we can get our fans on our side. That has not been the case in Baltimore at all.
Starting point is 00:38:22 Everybody in Baltimore is like, yeah, we fucking want our guy to be here we want to pay him and let's stop pissing him off okay because we'd like him to not leave immediately after the two franchise tag years if you do decide to lock him in for another two years which they can do after this season but to back it up if it's not making money for the nfl they do not give a fuck but I do think the way we got to paint it to them, the way it's got to be painted to these owners is, hey, you lose Sterling Shepard, your team's probably going to stink. Your team stinks. How many stadiums are you selling out later? How much money are you making off concessions and merch sales and playoff opportunities and everything like that for the New York Giants? I think that's how it has to be laid out for anything to ever get done. And I think Ed Reid did a great job of saying like, hey, this is reality. It's a fucking business. I hate it. We
Starting point is 00:39:09 all hate it. But this is just what it is. We hope someday it's not like that. But this is how it is currently. And I really appreciate and respect the hell out of Ed Reid because it kind of ties this whole thing together, AQ. You got to love former players. You got to love current players that are willing to speak out about it because it's the truth, right? It is. They understand it's a business. It is a business. It all comes down to the dollar. And that's the way they look at it.
Starting point is 00:39:32 And the way they honestly look at it is regardless of Sterling Shepard's on the field, they're still going to sell out. They're still going to make their money. And that's a shitty way. I don't know if the Giants will still sell out. No. I don't think so. I mean, we'll see what happens.
Starting point is 00:39:46 But it does seem like this is one of those things that happens where, you know, the Giants season might take a little bit longer. They were undefeated going into last year. They were. They were. You're saying we shouldn't give up on them yet. No, no. Well, I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:39:55 The Panthers were 3-0 last year. Just got to remember that when we're in this area of the season. Good point. But also, teams that went on to win the Super Bowl also get this. They start hot. They start hot this time of year as well. So who knows what we know about who. But I think the whole everything revolves around the dollar is what fans have to remember,
Starting point is 00:40:15 especially whenever you see a player do something that is considered, oh, this asshole, he gets to play in the NFL. He doesn't have to play in the NFL and he's doing this. It's like these owners are doing the exact same thing and would do the exact same thing. So just have a little bit of patience, hopefully in respect for the way they do business. Well, that's what's so interesting about the Lamar situation is they know what he's capable of. They know what they want him to do and what they think he will do if they're going to be successful this year, but because they haven't paid him and Ed Reed kind of alluded to it a
Starting point is 00:40:43 little bit in that clip, it's not that it's explicitly this way, but it almost seems like they're kind of hoping he gets hurt. Maybe not, you know, not something super serious, but that he gets hurt and he's out four to six weeks so they can be like, hey, you know, listen, we can't, you know, we can't trust you to be out there for 17 games every week, which just seems crazy to me because either you're hoping for it to be that way or the other reality is he's going to play the whole season, he's going to break a bunch of records, and then, yeah, you're going to be staring down a situation where he's going to say, hey, what you offered me earlier, like that ain't fucking cutting it anymore.
Starting point is 00:41:21 Not even close. Yeah, I'm excited to see what the final number is for Lamar, where and how it all pans out. You ever see a guy with a treadmill in his hotel room? What's that all about? I don't know. That ain't fucking cutting it anymore. Not even close. Yeah, I'm excited to see what the final number is for the Mar-Where and how it all pans out. You ever see a guy with a treadmill in his hotel room? What's that all about? I don't know. I really don't.
Starting point is 00:41:30 But if it works for him, it works. I know. Is that motherfucker just running all the time? Like, is he just in the best shape of all time all the time? Because my first thought. He could be wanting to do something, you know, even just like light walking, like activate hamstrings, morning up, whatever it is, right? Oh, I didn't even think about that.
Starting point is 00:41:48 A lot of guys are starting to kind of request that, whether it's like a bike or something, just to kind of get going. Can we get Lamar in a suite too? Yeah, no kidding. What are we doing? He's in a room like the size that I would get. That baby little room that I would get the Colts would put me in a closet somewhere. Like, thank you guys, appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Who made this decision? Seems like GM probably if I had to guess. But I'd never seen a treadmill in a room. I love it. It's there, though. And whatever Lamar's doing is working. Fucking four touchdowns, five touchdowns last week. One Russian rushed for another 100-yard game.
Starting point is 00:42:19 His 12th of his career, which breaks his own record for a number of 100-yard rushing games. I fucking love everything about Lamar, though. I really do. And even if the Ravens are like, yeah, maybe if he gets hurt, we might be able to drive the price down. But then instead of Lamar looking at the Deshaun contract, can't he look at the Dak Prescott contract and be like, oh, okay, sure, yeah,
Starting point is 00:42:37 I got hurt, but it wasn't as bad as Dak, and Dak still got like $80 million last year. If Lamar Jackson is playing any semblance of lamar jackson football yes in three years this season counting so in two years after this season some owner is going to pay him 3x what right the baltimore ravens offered him some owner will somewhere tepper who knows what they'll get figured out some new owner might come in. Seattle Seahawks might be up for sale in 2024. That's a rumor going around the internet right now.
Starting point is 00:43:09 There's another big fucking market team that's going to have a lot of bazillionaires up in that area that are going to buy that team. A lot of cash. Maybe Balmer gets into the NFL game. Think about what he's going to want to pay for cash over cap to get a guy. Lamar would be a great guy in Seattle to rally everybody. There's just so much more cap to get a guy. Lamar would be a great guy in Seattle to rally everybody.
Starting point is 00:43:26 I mean, there's just like so much more money coming into the league. Lamar knows it, and I think he's doing smart business. Now he has to stay. He has to remain Lamar Jackson, which is the bet that he's putting on himself. But anytime somebody bets on himself, I fucking love it. I enjoy it, and I want to see him get paid out, just like Joe Flacco did, didn't he? Goddamn right.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Joe Flacco did with Baltimore. Weren't you there then? Were you there for the Joe Flacco era? I came the year after. Sorry. I missed the ring there. You got rich Joe Flacco though. Got rich Joe Flacco. Deep ball Joe Flacco. What was Joe Flacco like as a teammate?
Starting point is 00:43:59 He was awesome. Everybody enjoyed him? Everybody enjoyed him and he was so good at throwing the deep ball. I loved playing I loved playing with him because, you know, you'd sit there at the 20 and you had the opportunity to take it to the other 20 real quick. Or? Or go 3-0. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Hey, that's football. That's right. That's absolutely Joey Footstep's Flacco football. That's every single drive. And, you know, the Ravens will play Flacco because back then it was what 120 million now we're looking at 320 million it's going to be there like two years from now that's it'll probably be like a 300 some million dollar guarantee and that's post two franchise tag both of which will be in the 40 to 50 million dollar range but there is an old saying you leave your for show money looking for mo money,
Starting point is 00:44:46 you might end up with no money. But in this case, he's going to end up with so much money. So much. Yeah. He's going to be incredibly rich no matter what, and it's basically whether or not Baltimore wants him to be rich in Baltimore as opposed to somewhere else. Yeah, figure it out, Baltimore.
Starting point is 00:45:02 What do you say? This guy's a good player. Do you think it's possibly a negotiation tactic, too, with Deshaun Watson in the division? He's like, hey, you saw this guy at a massage table, you know, next to his bed. I want a treadmill so you know, like, I'm working.
Starting point is 00:45:16 I'm getting ready for the game on Sunday. I'm not doing this other bullshit. Well, do you think he's negotiating with every other team? Because remember Ian Rappaport, when he told us about Deshaun's negotiation situation and Lamar's negotiation situation, he said, you know, Lamar does everything right, so it kind of puts him in a bad spot negotiating-wise.
Starting point is 00:45:35 Deshaun had the ability to be a free agent basically with multiple teams bidding. Now it's just the Ravens. So maybe he should bring in something terrible. He needs the... Jimmy Seafood. Yes. There it is.
Starting point is 00:45:50 You bring in those assholes that are celebrating cicadas over there. Yeah. Maybe create a COVID. We don't know. Has it come out? It hasn't been substantiated, but there's rumors. Has been disproved. Those fucking crab cakes.
Starting point is 00:46:02 So good. So good. Crab cakes are so good. They're there. Steak is so good. The good. Crab cakes are so good. Steak is so good. The vibes in that place, immaculate. They got a bakery downstairs where there's pies and shit. So good. Literally, everything that comes out of that place
Starting point is 00:46:15 is good, except for COVID that they created there and cicadas that came out of there. That's Jimmy's seafood. And obviously, the owners are who we thought they were. Yeah, they're kind of dirtbags. Do you think with the whole Lamar situation, Tyler Huntley playing so well
Starting point is 00:46:31 every time he comes in has kind of hurt him almost? I don't know. Maybe he should just trade Lamar. There you go. Any team that needs him. Just trade him. Yeah, trade him right here to Indianapolis. Yeah, he could trade him to Indianapolis, but then the taxes would have to go up so he could pay him. You trade him. Yeah, trade him right here to Indianapolis. Yeah, he could trade him to Indianapolis, but then, you know, the taxes would have to go up so he could pay him.
Starting point is 00:46:47 You have an astronaut. Connor learned about the payment of the Lucas Oil Stadium here in town, and it is not something he has forgot about. No, never will either. Jim Irsay somehow made money building a new stadium. Incredible business. Good business, man. Incredible business. $800 million paid like 50 bucks, right?
Starting point is 00:47:04 No, that's not what I meant. The way he got it sponsored and the way he went about getting the public funding and the sponsorship at the same time. We didn't get to see the books. We have not got to see the books behind the scenes. But from outside looking in, it seems like Jim Irsay maybe had one of the greatest business moves of all time. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:47:22 And now he has one of the greatest stadiums in the NFL. Although it's a little bit too comfortable, I think, for some people. A little bit. Except for away fans. It's not that comfortable for them. They were so loud. Chiefs fans were so fucking loud. Chiefs travel well.
Starting point is 00:47:35 We talked about this yesterday. We're sitting there doing the national anthem, and we're on the field level, you know, so we're standing there. You can kind of look around and see the whole thing. And I knew that we were playing the Chiefs, but I had forgot about the end of that national anthem. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:51 They were there, dude. And they let you know. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Chiefs! That fucking thing rattled. I think a lot of Colts fans were like, oh, my God. We are not alone in here. It actually startled me.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Me too. I don't know what it was at first. I'm like, oh, yeah, this is the Chiefs thing. I had the same exact thoughts, and I've been a part of it on the field at the Kingdom. It's awesome there. Awesome. Like the entire place doing it. The field feels like it's actually rattling.
Starting point is 00:48:19 Like it's a cool rendition on something that happens in every single stadium, right? It didn't always be that way. It wasn't always the national anthem every game you remember that when we first got to the nfl it wasn't every single game it was only big games yeah and then something happened and obviously the national anthem became the storyline right and then now everybody does the national anthem because i think everybody wants to make it a thing and the whole performance and the stadium it's a part of the show almost now at this point. Who's singing it, how it's being sung. It happens everywhere. Normally, pretty standard, boring shit.
Starting point is 00:48:49 Big flag, singer. Singer good? Okay. Singer bad? Okay. Rarely singer unbelievable. Rarely like whatever because every singer says National Anthem is impossible to sing anyways because of where you got to start or whatever. So normally, the National Anthem is the same exact thing pretty much everywhere like once you get through it the the symbolicness of it that
Starting point is 00:49:10 it's about to be the kickoff though is what guys kind of i think get emotional about yes okay when the national anthem is playing it's like okay obviously that i think a lot of guys pray during that i think it's a moment of like hey we're about're about to do this. It's like a symbolic thing more so than anything. The Chiefs fans making that their own and remixing it and it being legit is what I fucking love. Like getting to experience that on Sunday. Foxy, I'm happy you were there. Now imagine for the entire stadium being that way because they're not letting any visitors in there
Starting point is 00:49:39 and buy any of the tickets. Maybe a few sneak in, but it's not enough to fucking rattle the stadium like Lucas Oil Stadium was. That was fucking awesome. It was so loud, and I couldn't imagine it at the Chiefs place because I actually thought it was Colts fans. That's how loud it was. I couldn't believe it. They were loud there, and they were also loud on that
Starting point is 00:49:56 penalty at the very end of the game. A lot of boos came out there. Well, can't use abusive language. We'll get to it quick here. AQ, you just can't say rude stuff to Matt Ryan. I don't know what Stone Cold Chris Jones thought he was allowed to do, but you can't be saying that type of stuff to Matt Ryan.
Starting point is 00:50:10 On a follow-up, just to hold some sense of credibility, and I said this yesterday, it's real. Can't have shit talk be the reason why a game goes a different direction. That ref throwing that
Starting point is 00:50:25 flag right there matt ryan was jogging off not matt ryan didn't look at the ref and go did you hear what naughty language you just said like matt ryan didn't do that matt ryan didn't do that chris jones didn't think anything of it either the punt team was on the field matt ryan was off the field and then that ref's like nope actually come back on good and go win this game so the ref must have been mightily offended by whatever Chris Jones said, but also can't have that be a determiner of a game. I think you've got to know situations are situational. Fourth quarter, five minutes left.
Starting point is 00:50:54 This team's like, that can't be third down. That can't be the reason why a game changes. Can't have it. I mean, I have such a big issue with the fact that the refs send out these points of emphasis things. No, no, no. It's points of celebration or clarification. Yeah, points of clarification.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Points of clarification. No longer points of emphasis. Points of clarification is the new wording, the new verbiage. Regardless of what it is, they're told to look for something more. And then you have these off-season conversations and now taunting or celebrations or trash talk, all these things that were celebrated on Mike Dup's for years and years and years cost games. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Can't have it. Well. Matt Ryan, though, is just one of those guys. He's too handsome, too professional. He can't say rude things. I'm happy the ref saw it the same way. Look at the body language, too, though. Like, Chris Jones is smiling.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Like you said, Matt Ryan's not. Can you believe what this guy said? What could he have possibly said that you'd get a flag there? This isn't fucking high school football. This is the NFL. Matt Ryan just jogging off. All right, we're out of here. Quentin Nelson probably heard what was said there.
Starting point is 00:51:59 I think everybody agrees that Quentin Nelson is a dog. So if Quentin Nelson was offended by what was said, don't you think he would potentially grab Jones by his fucking head? I think everybody agrees that Quentin Nelson is a dog. So if Quentin Nelson was offended by what was said, don't you think he would potentially grab Jones by his fucking head? I think he would. So it's just, will we ever know what was said? Never. But will we ever care? No.
Starting point is 00:52:15 This can't happen. I think the more I thought about this last night, I was sleeping on it because a lot of Chiefs fans said thank you to us for talking about the way it were, because we benefited from it. I benefited from it directly. Five and a half seemed to be covered regardless, although Patrick Mahomes could have went down there and got it. So my bet's going to hit anyways, but I'm a Colts fan.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Happily, we got a fucking win. So I did benefit from it, but that can't be the case. What were you going to say, Foxy? I was going to say, aside from this, have we had any really bad calls in any other games yet? Last night, that pass interference was bad on Sterling. There was a goal line play with Bears versus Packers, too. It was kind of blown.
Starting point is 00:52:50 I don't think anybody thought that. That is this year's Tony Cranty, Cassius Marsh. Oh, don't get me started. This one right there? Yeah. Yeah, third down, getting off the field, fourth quarter, five minutes left. That's why they kicked him off to be a ref anymore. That's tough stuff.
Starting point is 00:53:07 All right, let's go around some more news. Miles Garrett in a bad car accident yesterday. His Porsche was driving on a wet road is what's being reported, and he went to dodge an animal, and he and a passenger started to roll down the highway, and his car, and Bleacher Report reported about it, Tom Pellicero did as well, he went into the hospital with non-life-threatening injuries. He was released from the hospital, and my immediate thought whenever they said non-life-threatening injuries, I thought, okay, if that's where they're setting this,
Starting point is 00:53:38 because they could have said no broken bones, nothing like that. So whenever they decided to describe it as non-life threatening, I go, Oh shit. Like some serious stuff happened. Then you see the photos of his car, man, this is scary. Especially with how big fucking miles Garrett is. You'd assume he's taken up a lot of the room in that Porsche. So how much space is there for his body? If this thing's going to go down and collapse like that we hear he's okay i wonder if we'll get an update on what the injuries are if miles garrett who is built like an absolute fucking
Starting point is 00:54:11 titan and a gladiator gets through this with no broken bones and nothing like that i think we'll all be incredibly surprised and wildly impressed and we're happy to hear he's okay but god damn this is just another reminder that any given moment of your life can change so you might as well enjoy every single moment he's trying to dodge a fucking animal on a wet road and one of the best cars that can handle a porsche can handle the road very well it is supposed to be like whipped around almost low center of gravity it's got good everything in there so he probably thought he was okay who knows how fast he was going they will probably overanalyze all of that type of stuff, especially with what's going on with Odell Beckham
Starting point is 00:54:47 Jr. on, I think, ESPN NFL's Instagram account. That was a wild thing to post. But I hope he's okay. And man, it's a nice quick reminder about perspective of life and what can happen and can't happen very, very quickly, I think. Yeah, because you know, anytime
Starting point is 00:55:03 something like this happens, people always assume like, oh, he was either drugs involved or he's drinking or whatever. Just the middle of the day. And you're driving a car like that. And if it is a deer or something like imagine you hit a deer in that car, like probably you're probably dying. Like there's a good chance of. Yeah, very good chance. More so than if you're driving an Escalade or a big SUV or something like that. And yeah, it's just like you have no idea what's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:55:28 Thank God he's okay because I thought the same thing, non-life-threatening. He could have still broke both of his legs, broken an arm, broke both his arms. Especially in a Porsche where he's big body too. That thing's kind of set up like an Indy car. You're kind of going up underneath that a little bit with how low it is to the ground. Hope he's okay. Miles Garrett is obviously a stud.
Starting point is 00:55:49 That Browns team is going to need him going forward. We just hope he's okay. Keep him inside of it. That's got to be a tough car for his big ass to get in. You know what I mean? Getting into that thing. He's got to do a full... You think he was going? There's a full slip underneath the wheel. The steering wheel also becomes
Starting point is 00:56:05 problematic. As somebody who has pretty good sized quads, used to at least. I'm building him back though. Yeah, I'm bringing him back in the Hawk House. Yeah, the Hawk House got a quad machine there. He's 6'4", 275 though. So getting into any car, problematic.
Starting point is 00:56:22 SUV, problematic. Let alone a Porsche that's already a little bit lower. He's getting into that thing. Hope he's okay. Hope he is okay. Joey Bosa has a significant groin injury and will be week to week. Left tackle Rashawn Slater expected to miss the rest of the season with a biceps tear.
Starting point is 00:56:39 The Chargers conversation going into the season was, this is the year. This is the year for the Chargers. They get one more year in Staley's system. Herbert's going to be comfortable. He's continuing to grow. He got a chance to showcase who he was last year and in his rookie year. His rookie year, it didn't seem like they understood situational football.
Starting point is 00:56:56 They lost a lot of close games. Last year, they don't make the playoffs again. At the end of the season, there's a situation that happens where they could potentially make the playoffs. Head coach makes a decision. They end up losing, not going to the playoffs. This is the year, there's a situation that happens where they could potentially make the playoffs. Head coach makes a decision. They end up losing, not going to the playoffs. This is the year, though. Darius Butler, numerous other pundits and experts are saying, hey, this is the squad that's going to go. They get weapons. They bring in Khalil Mack. They got J.C. Jackson. Obviously,
Starting point is 00:57:16 they're repaid Derwin James. The Chargers are the team to talk about and go forward. Now, they're out everybody. They seem to be out everybody. Quarterback has fractured rib cartilage. They still had him drop back 80% of the time on Sunday. That was the highest percentage of any NFL team on Sunday. The guy with broken ribs. Matt Asselbeck told us yesterday that when he had that, it is just a miserable pain. It's going to be tough.
Starting point is 00:57:38 Now, he did get an injection. Who knows what that means? All-pro center Corey Linsley. Knee injury. Been out. All-pro left tackle. Now, out for the season. Number one wide receiver Keenan Allen, strained hamstring. Who knows when he'll be back? Top pass rusher now Joey Bosa, groin injury week to week. They said it's pretty severe.
Starting point is 00:57:55 Top cornerback not responding as expected from ankle surgery. That's JC Jackson, I believe. So whenever you look at that team, you can see why they maybe aren't living up to the hype that we put on them beforehand. Because anytime somebody gets injured, especially at an important position, you can be fucked, let alone all of them. AQ, your thoughts on the Chargers? Yeah, listen, you can afford to lose one. You cannot afford to lose five Pro Bowl-type players. I mean, that is too much talent not on your roster at one point.
Starting point is 00:58:19 And they're all pretty significant injuries. You're losing guys for extended periods of time. Starting the season one and two, they have a long road to go. They do, and I'm worried about it because I love the goddamn Chargers. Oh yeah, they're awesome. I love their fan base. I like their team. I like Kyle Van Nooy. Obviously
Starting point is 00:58:36 we're big fans of his and everybody else that's coming. Austin Eckler, he unfollowed us. Yeah, what the fuck? What the hell? Is that why they're not giving him the ball? Because he unfollowed me? Yeah. I the fuck? What the hell? Is that why they're not giving him the ball? Because he unfollowed me? Yeah. I don't know. Could be.
Starting point is 00:58:47 See if he gets any more bits from us on Twitch. I'm sending him. Keeping our biddies to ourselves. That's right. No more subs. No more subs.
Starting point is 00:58:56 No, I'm joking. But he did give a full injury report on his Twitch and we had to talk about it. I wonder if that is why. Ooh. I wonder if that's why. Did we piss him off
Starting point is 00:59:04 because we weren't overly negative about it? I was just like, this is kind of crazy. I wonder if that is why. I wonder if that's why. Did we piss him off? We weren't overly negative about it. It was just like, this is kind of crazy. I mean, if you were to be Austin Eckler, listen to us talk about it. Do you remember we were like, yeah, never seen this before. We'd assume that the team is not going to be happy about this, but we do enjoy it. Like we tried our best to keep it positive,
Starting point is 00:59:21 but it was fascinating what he was saying. And the conversation should be about how injured they are, but instead the conversation's going to be, Chargers are letting down everybody yet again. Now, football! It is here, week three of the NFL Sunday and Monday and Thursday.
Starting point is 00:59:38 Slate is over. We have a lot of things to break down and digest, especially in this hour two where we'll be joined not only by the toxic table at Conner and at Ty Schmidt. You boys look fantastic. You too, Pat. So do you. Oh, you're talking about the T-shirt?
Starting point is 00:59:53 Yeah. Appreciate it. It's nice. It's a good shirt. Thank you. Thank you. It's comfortable. It got sent to the office.
Starting point is 01:00:00 You know, I'm built like a spark plug, so most T-shirts not great. A lot of people think that I only wear tank tops because it's all I have. Now I did have like 60 of the same tank top. It was very nice and it was convenient, but also for the way my body is built, it was like fantastic the way it flowed. Some t-shirts got sent to the office like a week or two ago and I got a chance to see them. The way this one fits my particular body is good. Yeah. It's a comfortable one. Now, I'm going to gain weight through the season. We'll see if it maintains. But whatever the case, I felt like today was the day.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Last night I had a tank top on with like a flannel, denim flannel thing over top. Looked good. Looked good. Got a text message from Harvey. He said, look at you in your little collared shirt. I said, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hey. There's a tank top on underneath that.
Starting point is 01:00:43 Everybody needs to relax. I was trying to do the whiteout to keep the Giants a winner because I bet on the Giants in the first half and on the Giants in the whole game. Made a bigger bet for the Giants first half because I knew I was going to be on with the Mannings. Wanted to have a little bit more interest in what was going on.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Now, obviously, they do not have the lead at halftime or at the end of the game. The Cowboys get a win. We'll hear about more about why and how that happened with our guy A.Q.q shipley who's sitting here hosting in the trenches and the bobbled exchange podcast with drew stanton currently available at a baby aq super bowl champion both as a coach and player because he was a player coach in a year they won a super bowl that's right deal this guy's jackie moon super bowl champion you get two rings for that did you get should have i should have i felt like i should Coach for one, player for the other. And it was about half the
Starting point is 01:01:28 season for both because I got nine games as a player. I think you have a gripe. Yeah. I think you have a gripe. You're a two-time Super Bowl champion. One as a player, one as a coach in the same exact year. Joining us now from Manatee, Ohio, a man who joins us every single day, damn near. He's also a Super Bowl champion. He's an all-time leading tackler for one of the oldest franchises in the NFL in the Green Bay Packers. He's a college football national champion, a Ryder Cup champion, and he's beat COVID a couple times.
Starting point is 01:01:54 Ladies and gentlemen, the face of Ohio, A.J. Hall. Yay! What's up? What's up, dude? What's going on? I know you're a t-shirt guy now. Is that full go, like all the time? They only sent us two of them, so I got this color and another color I'll never wear, which is white. You rarely see me in a white t-shirt. Don't want the nips to be out there. Also, the gut, you know, in white is a little bit tough.
Starting point is 01:02:15 The nips, yeah. Don't the nips show through in a white t-shirt? Yeah, I don't know how anybody wears white t-shirts. People do, though. And I just assume that if I was put on, my nips would be out. So I can't wear the white, especially the way my bar my barrel body is built it's basically forcing my nips onto my shirt so you know there's numerous things that go on in there but I like this t-shirt I appreciate you for noticing AJ yeah of course looks good it looks like a nice comfortable t-shirt I understand if you find a shirt that fits and you like yeah you want to get a thousand of yes that's
Starting point is 01:02:42 what I'm gonna be trying to do to these ones yeah look for this particular shirt to be worn for the next i don't know year and a half or so here we go in different colors and then when the summer comes back around we'll bring tank top back we'll figure it out as we go speaking of figuring out as we go aj it seems like you have the nfl figured out you had the cowboys last night they get a big win on the road on the weekend i think you're like 11 and 6 i mean that is fucking unbelievable AJ you should feel very good about where you're at right now what did you know about that Cowboys team last night that was going to go into the Meadowlands in New York and beat Danny Dimes Day Bowl in the New York Giants squad that was already undefeated how'd you know AJ what were your thoughts on him what did you see
Starting point is 01:03:17 well I think I knew I had confidence in Cooper Rush in what he could do I love what the Dallas defense can do that was what kept me, I guess, the most optimistic. And I knew Danny Dimes and the Giants offense, yeah, they've won a few games early and they look good, but I didn't think they were super explosive. I'm going to put a ton of points up. Oh, you thought because they only had two passes past 20 yards in the entirety of the season that maybe they weren't going to be able to make that Dallas
Starting point is 01:03:41 Cowboys defense that is well coached by Dan Quinn, Michael Parsons, potential defensive player of the year candidate, defensive MVP candidate. You thought maybe with the lack of explosion that Peyton was talking about earlier, by the way. Peyton, the first couple drives, was like, this is where we need a shot. This is where we need a second down. Need a double move here. They're sitting on it.
Starting point is 01:03:59 They're sitting on it. Need a double move. Then it was third and 10, and Eli was like, they might go for that double move now. And Peyton goes, need it on the first or second down don't need it now then the next drive same thing double move they're sitting they're sitting double move they're sitting they're sitting I wonder why Hasselbeck was able to notice it yesterday didn't have enough time yeah but Peyton's able to notice it Hasselbeck's able to notice it you might have more time you take a deep shot right because the defense can't just fucking pin their ears back and come after you
Starting point is 01:04:23 I'm saying they couldn't keep him upright like daniel jones was getting rocked all night so maybe they didn't feel comfortable calling any double moves because like we're gonna hey guys we're gonna need three and a half seconds and we haven't had three and a half yet tonight so you think that was a problem all season do you think daybo recognized that as a problem he hears what has to back is saying here's what the analytics people are saying but he's saying in real life we can't fucking protect this guy long enough for any what hey hey that sounds good peyton yeah hey that sounds good hassle back daybo is like if you were the quarterback and i started calling double moves and like six seven second developing plays and you're just getting killed what would you say to me as the guy in hasback and man it'd be like
Starting point is 01:05:00 all right well we're not so it makes sense i don't what you're saying. But it feels like that is a problem. Saquon showed some explosion. Saquon's had a bounce back year, which I think we're all happy for, especially out of the Penn State University. Let's go. The cult over there in Happy Valley, Pennsylvania, a place that is, you know, known for a lot of things. Infamous, I'd say. A lot of football wins. A lot of football wins. Some other stuff. Certainly known for a lot of things. Infamous. I'd say.
Starting point is 01:05:25 A lot of football wins. A lot of football wins. Appreciate that. Some other stuff. Certainly known for that. Pooping pants. Certainly known for that. There's ski slopes out there somewhere.
Starting point is 01:05:34 I don't know. You guys skiing over there? Is there a – AJ is talking about – I think there's some skiing. Oh, you're talking about cocaine? No, nothing to do with drugs, no. No drugs, actual hills.
Starting point is 01:05:45 Oh. No, you're not. You know what you're talking about, AJ. Nonetheless, we know what potentially people think of when they think of Penn State. And it used to be football program incredible. Then something happened that was very terrible and you heard a lot of Penn State alums go We didn't know.
Starting point is 01:06:03 We didn't know. Good coach. A lot of that. There was a lot of that out of the Penn State folks, so it was kind of tough to take them serious for a while. You know, the Penn State people in our lives, very difficult to even have a conversation with because you'd be talking to them and you'd say,
Starting point is 01:06:18 hey, you fucking dipshit, all right? Take your little sheep wool off your eyes and just look at the situation. And they couldn't do it. You know, these Penn State Colts. Hey, weren't we talking about Shaquan? Okay. All right, let's get back to it.
Starting point is 01:06:29 Okay, he went to Penn State. What are you trying to say? What are you trying to say? I'm trying to say Joe knew. And they all knew Joe knew. Joe doesn't know. Yikes. He's out of here.
Starting point is 01:06:39 Well. Yeah, he's dead. Broken heart. You're not saying like AQ knew what was going on, are you? I don't know. Actually, I've never even thought about that. That is something I just always assume no, but I mean, now that you mention it,
Starting point is 01:06:53 I mean, maybe it's something we should dive into. We assume that a lot of people had no idea, but there was obviously a lot of wrongdoing, but that entire storyline took a lot of the attention away from the Penn State lore, right? The Penn State lore used to be, I mean, I grew up in Pittsburgh. Penn State people around the football team, what Harrington used to do. He was an absolute dog fun to watch that team.
Starting point is 01:07:13 The lore was that the football team, something terrible happens, a lot of allegations. That is no longer the thought. Feels like maybe Penn State's getting back. And if Saquon continues to play well, I think it's good for Penn State as a whole. He was gone for a bit there. Last couple years seemed to be checked out. Injuries, the offensive line was terrible, but everybody was saying, well, if he's a guy,
Starting point is 01:07:32 he can make anybody good. If he's a guy, he can make anybody good. This year feels like he's a fucking guy again. What do you think it is about to make you that is making these types of plays happen again when maybe in years past they were not taking place? Breaking tackles, having great vision, explosion, finishing the pile on, outrunning corners.
Starting point is 01:07:49 This is the Saquon Barkley we all thought we were going to get for his entire NFL career. Obviously people get hurt. They have situations they go through. But it's great to see him back. What do you think it is about this year's Saquon that makes him different than maybe years past? And will he continue to do this, you think? Yeah, I think we talked a little bit about this.
Starting point is 01:08:01 ACL injuries are tough because everybody says it's a six-month to a year. Adrian Peterson was the anomaly coming back in six months, but it's typically an 18-month deal. So when he comes back last year, he's not 100%. Now he comes back this year, he's got all the motivation with people talking shit, and he's putting it together. He's having some great, great runs so far early in the season. And the O-line did a fantastic job on that one play we just saw.
Starting point is 01:08:27 They did a great job. They didn't do a great job in pass protection. No. But they did a good job blocking that run play. On that one play you said. Yeah. I like the way you worded that. On that one play right there where we just saw for a touchdown,
Starting point is 01:08:38 these guys did a good job. Impressive. On that one play right there. How many plays I wonder the offense had last night? 40, 50 for the Giants, do you think? What do you think, Norm? We'll just watch the flow of the game. What do you think?
Starting point is 01:08:48 Yeah, it wasn't many. I mean, you're hoping for 65-ish. I think that's kind of the number you want to get to, and they were probably well below that. Yeah, they were below 60 for sure, 50-something. How about the Dolphins having 39 plays this weekend, getting a win? Still winning. It makes no sense.
Starting point is 01:09:02 How about their defense being able to hold Josh Allen and the Bills to 17 points on 90 plays? What was it? 39? 40 minutes of possession. No, no. 39 first downs. Oh, yeah. To like 15 or something. 39 first downs, 17.
Starting point is 01:09:19 Really? That many? Yeah, I think so. We have the graphic. Fox is trying to find it right now in the system. How would you hold him to 17? Sorry, 31 first downs. 40 minutes of possession? Yes, dude. 497 yards, bro. One punt for the Bills, five for the Dolphins.
Starting point is 01:09:34 Now, I got a tweet from a Dolphins fan that was not happy about the things we talked about in this game. Are the Bills okay? Yes, the Bills are okay. That's what we talked about yesterday. Tua, I guess it was a back. McDaniel came out and said that Tua was getting annoyed with everybody who was worried about his head when he was saying, hey, I have a back problem.
Starting point is 01:09:51 Like, hey, this is where this is hurting, and everybody was worried about his head. So I guess something can happen with your spine where it causes some dizziness or what's that called? Equilibrium being off or whatever. So McDaniel came out and said that Tua was basically saying this, and the independent doctor was saying the same thing. So like we talked about yesterday, if they were to do some malpractice to get Tua back in there, week three of the NFL season, people are going to find out,
Starting point is 01:10:17 and it's going to get loud. And McDaniel's career as a head coach is probably going to be much different than it was going because no players are going to trust this guy as a head coach if he's running a program that's forcing guys who are getting CT on a field a head coach is probably going to be much different than it was going because no players are going to trust this guy as a head coach. If he's running a program, that's forcing guys who are getting CT on a field to go back in the same fucking half and potentially getting two concussions in one game, which we all know is pretty catastrophic to the way the brain functions. So we heard from McDaniel that that conversation happened.
Starting point is 01:10:39 It was his back. So hopefully he'll be safer going forward. I've never heard of this. And when we all saw this, we all thought the same exact thing. Oh yeah. yeah yeah and he's not in the concussion protocol today and i mean you guys would know more but i feel like that's the type of thing where even it's kind of like borderline like they'll put a guy in the concussion protocol just to be safe well and that's for good for business by the way right that's all cover your ass type thing the
Starting point is 01:11:01 nfl has to do for good for business is we care about the players. We'll put this guy under protocol. We'll extra test him. He's not. Another player is Minka Fitzpatrick. Do we know this? And is this from, you think, that play that you – Yeah, what's it from? Like, is that how – does that happen where you play the whole game
Starting point is 01:11:14 and then all of a sudden two days later you start to have some symptoms, I guess? So, do you think it's from the play that you were talking about, by the way, with Chubbs? This play didn't help it, that's for sure. This is first quarter, first play. And it doesn't look like anything from the side, but in the back. Yeah, it does. It looked like it from the side for me.
Starting point is 01:11:31 Well, that's like AQ picking out plays to run. And he's like, oh, this one's a kill shot. And I'm like. Good tackle, though, Minkah. Way to break down, come to balance. I like it. Well, and then we find out maybe a week later he has a concussion. Is it from this play?
Starting point is 01:11:42 Is it from another play? Is it from something in practice? Maybe. It sure felt like as soon as this happened though, AJ texted me and said, Minka's out. Boom! I don't see how anyone stays in the game from that. Minka might be the toughest guy on the planet. Made some plays
Starting point is 01:11:57 for him as well. So we're very happy if that was the case, that he didn't get two concussions in one game because once again out of all the analytics that we've been shown back-to-back concussions is the biggest worrisome for the brain going forward now how many times that happened in the past and people maybe didn't have the worst outcome who knows I guess not every single concussion has been documented over the history but this one with Minka did come out of nowhere. I had a teammate who on like a Thursday, he ended up going into concussion protocol from the game on Sunday and the
Starting point is 01:12:30 way he described it. And I don't want to say this player's name because this player is obviously a cool dude, but it is alarming what he said. He said, normally by Thursday, I can remember like setting my alarm and like turning my my alarm off and things that I do in the morning. Wednesday, normally not. Tuesday, normally not. By Thursday, normally things start coming back together.
Starting point is 01:12:52 And this week, it wasn't. So I told him, and yeah, I guess I'm in the concussion protocol now. Jesus. That's scary. Every week? How often does that happen? Every game I've ever played. That's like talking to guys that played in the 70s.
Starting point is 01:13:04 That's the stories you hear. Scary. Yeah, I'd say. It usually takes me until Friday to at least remember my name. And then I usually remember it by game time Sunday. And then, of course, I start the whole process over again. Yeah, by Thursday, normally, I got this type of stuff for you. I can tie my own shoes and stuff.
Starting point is 01:13:19 This week, I couldn't do it. It's terrible. It sucks. I laughed when the human said it to me. I was like laughing. And then I thought he was fucking with me. I thought the person was fucking with me. And then he wasn't.
Starting point is 01:13:32 And I was like, I got like concerned like quickly. I was like. Have you ever had anything like that? You ever got dinged up? Honestly. Every week of your life? Yeah. Every game I've ever played.
Starting point is 01:13:40 Me? I think there's been a couple where I probably have gotten. No, I don't know. Like in soccer? Did you bang heads with anyone in soccer or anything like that when you were going to play overseas i guess i don't know but i was never like a healthy human so i always assumed when i was like seeing stuff that it was like because i was dehydrated or i didn't eat right or i was tired or whatever i just kind of power through it you know like it's just i think there was a completely
Starting point is 01:13:58 different view on it back in the day than there is now and i understand that everybody's trying to save everybody and everybody's trying to get into a a fully healthy world but back in the day than there is now. And I understand that everybody's trying to save everybody and everybody's trying to get into a fully healthy world. But back in the day, it was not like that. I mean, when we first came into the league, it was still the old school. When we came into the league, it was still old school ways. With pain pills, pain pills, not into quotes. I was very lucky that it wasn't happening there because I would have been a human. I would have been like, yep, go ahead and get me.
Starting point is 01:14:23 Yeah, of course. My left quad, right quad, right calf, left calf. Everything hurts. They each need one, yeah. Thank you so much. Probably at that time, I mean, if I'm just being realistic with who I am and what was probably happening back in the day, that was still taking place in the NFL.
Starting point is 01:14:37 That has changed quickly. And I'm happy for it, obviously. But there are some teammates of mine I'm going to be worried about forever. One of them was a guy that was the leader of a wedge back in one of the last years of a wedge. He was the king of the wedge. Then a guy who was a fullback. He would just run his head straight down
Starting point is 01:14:54 right into like five, six people. And then obviously he was an offensive lineman with shorter arms. That was the knock on him. So these guys are getting closer to him. I'm sure there's a lot of shots to the head happening because he needs him to get close to him lead with because he's yeah he has to because i use my head as a weapon for sure yeah and you have that i mean look at that thing you better look at that you better you have that thick cranium but i watch that concussion
Starting point is 01:15:17 movie i told you i watched that concussion movie i came in the next day don't watch that don't watch and i go listen, we need to talk. That guy's running his mouth again, isn't he? Running his mouth. That guy's running his mouth. What's wrong with you? Come on. That doctor's running his mouth again, isn't he?
Starting point is 01:15:36 You can't speak on Tua. You haven't seen his charts. But he is coming out talking about Tua, how it was egregious or whatever, the whole process, and if anybody should care about it, because tell the truth, but AQ, I remember coming up to you and being like, dude, I'm worried about you, and you're like, don't listen to that guy. It's not real. It's not real. That movie's not real. No, and I think a lot of people
Starting point is 01:15:54 were hoping it wasn't real, but it is real, but I think brains and craniums are set up different. I don't think there is one, you know what I mean? And I think you've been saying this. Everybody responds different. Every single person responds differently to any kind of head trauma. yeah you never know there's no cookie cutter way about it that's why the protocol is good i think it's you should have the protocol i agree it's at 100 but yeah it's just hard to i think something's really hard to diagnose like
Starting point is 01:16:15 what's considered yeah how is it do we need to sit this guy out or is this just a normal run of the mill okay he's fine all right now the mink is in there what does that mean he's got to pass some tests for is he going to be back this week is he going to be back this week? Is he going to be out this week? Going in on a Tuesday game on Thursday? What do you think, AQ? You've been most, you've been in the league the most recent. The protocols have changed vastly since we have gotten in there.
Starting point is 01:16:36 What does this normally mean when somebody goes in a protocol as a coach or as a player? How are you viewing this? Symptoms are first, so they'll see if he's still sensitive to light, headaches, all the typical symptoms. And if he's still sensitive to light headaches all the typical symptoms and if he does not have any more of those then it goes to the test they give you like that impact test we all took right you do that baseline test it's a baseline test and if you get close to that baseline you're back to normal you're cleared you're good to go so it's all
Starting point is 01:17:02 self-monitored at the beginning until the test until the baseline to get to the baseline it is i feel good again let me take the baseline test so that we have no idea how long that could be right carrie collins he came to the colts the year peyton got hurt and uh he's supposed to be a star he was in a tree stand when they called him he was retired in a fucking tree stand this is he told me the on a plane. Got a chance to chat with him. Guy's got a lot of stories. Been through a lot. Done a lot.
Starting point is 01:17:28 I think he regrets a lot of things he's done, but he seems to be at a peace of mind and a peace of life where he is good. I enjoyed talking to that fucking OG, Kerry Collins. I think everybody enjoyed him as a human. Seemed to have like a carefree gypsy soul with where he was and very comfortable. But he was in a fucking tree stand when he got the call that the colts need a quarterback because peyton was going over to europe
Starting point is 01:17:49 to get something done with his neck and none of us knew that his neck was anywhere near this situation that it was at so carrie collins out of a tree stand in the middle of training camp comes in has one week he's our starter i think we play the texans week. J.J. Watt, wide open, off the end, picks Kerry up, actually picks him up, turns him like a bag and dumps him like on his head basically, like you're trying to empty a trash can almost. Like boom, bang. Okay, Kerry Collins, what the fuck am I doing here? I assume is what he's thinking.
Starting point is 01:18:18 And I feel like he was genuinely giving us effort. Like he was trying to give it – paid him a lot of money, I think. Yeah. But like was trying to win. Like he was trying to give it paid him a lot of money i think yeah but like was trying to win like yeah he was retired checked out felt like when he was with us though at the beginning when he was about to play wanted us to win but then the hey how are you feeling he was still having this he was still having this it went on for like four weeks i think four or five weeks or something like that and inevitably he ends up leaving curtis painter comes comes in, then Dan Orlovsky comes in. That's kind of how the season goes.
Starting point is 01:18:46 But I think people kind of – I don't think there's a guess on when he's going to get out of the protocol if it's self-monitoring because he probably has no idea. You have to pass each stage, though. There's all those stages. Like symptoms, when your symptoms go down, then they'll try to like – eventually you go run around a little bit without like helmets,
Starting point is 01:19:03 without doing anything. Then they'll try to put you into individual drills. There's all these steps I think you have to pass through the process. But yeah, you never know. Like you said, Kerry Collins might be three or four weeks. Some guys might be three days. Who knows? So let's pivot away from that for other big news that's going on.
Starting point is 01:19:20 The Tampa Bay Buccaneers have evacuated their facility. They are now training down in Miami because of Hurricane Ian, who is supposed to be a fucking asshole. Okay? We know one thing about Hurricane Ian. Son of a bitch. Yeah. That's right. Okay?
Starting point is 01:19:34 Hates football. Asshole. Hates football. Hates people as a whole. Good times. Good times. Let's kill him. Now, not as big as a piece of shit as one-niner.
Starting point is 01:19:44 Sure. No. One-niner, biggest scumbag. Different tier. All time kill him. Now, not as big as a piece of shit as one-niner. Sure. No. One-niner, biggest scumbag of all time. Right. Yeah, that's like pedophile level. Dahmer. Yeah. Fogel.
Starting point is 01:19:54 Fogel. That type of stuff. Breast carve. Boom. Same category. I mean, hey, it pains me to have to say it, but that's where we're at right now. That's where we're at right now. Ted Bundy.
Starting point is 01:20:04 That's what we're talking about. Yeah. Rhymes with Schman at right now. Ted Bundy. That's what we're talking about. Yeah, rhymes with Schman Schmusky. Yeah. We are. Don't you hop in. Penn State. We are. Penn State.
Starting point is 01:20:17 What was that guy's name you just said rhymed with? Schman Schmusky. We are. Penn State. Okay, so, like, yeah, that's what one niner was seems like hurricane ian though fucking real asshole yes okay everybody's doing everything we don't know what it's going to be i know nothing about hurricanes i'm not from the area i've traveled to florida you get caught in a rainstorm if you're from the north you go oh it's a hurricane and some local
Starting point is 01:20:43 goes no he's saying this's going to be going five. It's afternoon fucking. Okay. All right. Whatever the case, I guess this one's a real problem. Tampa Bay has actually moved closer to where Hurricane Ian currently is because of where Hurricane Ian is projected to head, which is up the west coast of Florida, up across the top, I believe, of the Panhandle, then over to the Carolinas. That is what's being predicted at this moment.
Starting point is 01:21:06 But talking to people who are hurricane-like experts, that could change at any given time. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers people, who I assume have a pretty smart fucking hurricane expert on their staff, says we need to get out of the way of this thing ahead of time. They go down to Miami to practice. Now their game this weekend, in which they are a home team, is going to have to be on the move, they're thinking. So Tom Pelissero reported that the NFL and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are looking for a home for their game. The Minnesota Vikings are playing the New Orleans Saints in England this weekend. So maybe it's in the brand new Bank of America Stadium, I believe, in Minnesota, which is beautiful, or another stadium in the Midwest, which we chatted about earlier.
Starting point is 01:21:45 The Tennessee Titans are not at home. The Titans are on the road. The Titans closer to Tampa Bay, even though it's still going to be a little bit of a haul. And it's a grass field like Tampa Bay Buccaneers are used to for their home game. Do you think that's something that's going to come up in the conversation? And how do you feel that this team will be able to manage all this bullshit distraction, A.J. Hawk? I mean, it sucks for him, but honestly, sometimes when you feel that this team will be able to manage all this bullshit distraction aj hawk i mean it sucks for him but honestly sometimes when you do that it's it kind of dials you in the team they're together all this sucks look at these like it doesn't suck they're still getting practice with great facilities and whatever but just messing up what your normal routine is your normal flow maybe maybe don't jump start maybe something you know you know when you're
Starting point is 01:22:23 playing away game hey it's just us. All we have is our coaches and our players and trainers on the sideline, everyone else against us. Maybe it's something like that where they kind of bond together. Might be like a bowl week. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:22:33 Do you know what they're doing with the families? Are the families traveling with them to Miami? Isn't everybody evacuating? Aren't they evacuating big areas of Florida? Yeah, and around there? I mean, if you... And to the right. And they're saying, get out of there.
Starting point is 01:22:44 I've seen like the clips of all the cars on the highway. Everybody's're saying Get out of there I've seen like the The clips of all the cars On the highway Everybody's saying Get out of there Man They're telling you Fly right in there
Starting point is 01:22:52 Yeah Good luck I don't want to make this About me but I mean Why am I What are we doing What's going on
Starting point is 01:22:59 Flying into My week four My game day experience Of flying into A fucking hurricane It's like Alright maybe Maybe somewhere Love Clemson Of course My week four, my game day experience of flying into a fucking hurricane. It's like, all right, maybe some more. Love Clemson.
Starting point is 01:23:08 Of course. Two top ten matchups. That's awesome. But also, like, don't love flying to begin with. Is that game okay? Like, is that okay to go? No. There is so many games that are currently, like, on watch right now
Starting point is 01:23:20 because of Hurricane Ian. I like the fact that the Buccaneers are getting ahead of it. The Buccaneers are like, hey, there's a chance that we – there's a bunch of college games in there, NFL games in there. There's a lot of games that are going to be affected. We should check on that for gambling-wise, by the way. Probably a lot of unders in a lot of situations, even if the hurricane comes into a tropical storm
Starting point is 01:23:37 and it isn't a full hurricane, which is people are predicting. 8 a.m. Saturday. I mean, the entire state of South Carolina. That is right where. Swallowed. So let me just get up here. Tampa's Wednesday. I believe Clemson's right here.
Starting point is 01:23:53 Okay. Yeah, so pretty close to the eye. Well, it's kind of smack dab in the center, so maybe it'll be calm in the eye of the storm. Yeah, you might get lucky. So it's 8 a.m. here. How fast is it? Is it slow?
Starting point is 01:24:05 Oh, no. So that's 9 a.m. here. How fast is it? Is it slow? Oh, no. So that's 9 a.m.? Yeah. That's when the show starts? So you'll be fine at 9? It'll be a cool atmosphere with all the rain in the background
Starting point is 01:24:13 and the wind. Yeah, a lot of people will be out there. Listen, I fucking love... Ponchos. Bring a poncho. Listen, if we're going, I hope these Clemson kids
Starting point is 01:24:21 are going. They'll show up. They'll show up. Oh, yeah. A lot of kids. It'll be fun. It'll be... Actually...
Starting point is 01:24:24 It'll be sliding in the mud. It'll be awesome. Yeah, I don't think hurricanes are just, like, fun rainstorms, dude. I think hurricanes are...on kids are done. They'll show up. They'll show up. A lot of kids. It'll be fun. It'll be fun. It'll be fun. It'll be fun. Actually. It'll be sliding in the mud. It'll be awesome. I don't think hurricanes are just like fun rainstorms, dude. I think hurricanes are. It's very windy. It's going to be a tropical storm. It's going to hopefully dissipate to a tropical storm. That's what everybody, I think, is hoping and banking on.
Starting point is 01:24:36 And I think these people down here know it much better than us. But the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are leaving their fucking facility. So if they think it's going to be a tropical what do they know that everybody else doesn't? Who's their weather person? This is like the people that are still wearing masks. What do these fuckers know that I don't? Call Al Roker. Isn't he doing this? I assume Al Roker's got a full take on this. Fuck Al Roker. Call Jim Cantor.
Starting point is 01:24:56 Joe DiNardo. Joe DiNardo's dead. Rest in peace to Joe DiNardo. You need a phone to heaven. Call his son. He is in heaven. Thank you. I'm happy nobody followed up. Joe DiNardo and Joe New. Joe New. He's not to heaven. Call his son. And he is in heaven. Thank you. I'm happy nobody followed up. Joe Nardo. Joe knew. Joe knew.
Starting point is 01:25:06 Joe knew. He's not the only Joe who knew. Denny. He had a 50-50 chance to get it right, Joe Nardo, every time. Every time. He had a 50 chance to get it right. Hold on. You did not hold Joe Nardo in high regards in your side of Pittsburgh?
Starting point is 01:25:21 How dare you? Oh, my God. Oh, my God. We are from vastly different parts of Pittsburgh? How dare you? Oh, my God. Oh, my God. We are from vastly different parts of Pittsburgh, you and I. You guys didn't like Joe DiNardo? Oh, yeah. No, we didn't like Joe DiNardo. Wow.
Starting point is 01:25:35 Oh, my God. Albie. Who was your weather person? Oh, I listened to Joe DiNardo, but he would always say, oh, there's a 50% chance of rain. It fucking rained all the time in Pittsburgh. So he was right. He was never wrong.
Starting point is 01:25:51 Boom. That's why we love Joe. Yeah. That's why we love Joe. That's all I had to know. It's unbelievable. I can't believe it. I completely changed my opinion on Joe DiNardo.
Starting point is 01:26:01 This is their Super Bowl. Dude, are you serious? Look at this fucking guy. What are you even talking about? I mean, I'm just saying. I think you're with me now. From what I've heard, he never missed. You think Joe DiNardo, this guy, ever missed?
Starting point is 01:26:13 Love you, Joe. I mean, I didn't think so, but AQ's making a lot of points. Is this guy a national celebrity? Fucking Pittsburgh celebrity. What are we talking about? This guy knew, okay? He said it's raining. Guess what?
Starting point is 01:26:24 Put a fucking hood on, dude. That's what Joe DiNardo did. I'm so sick of you right now. You can't cancel your golf plans all the time because it rains every fucking day. This 88-year-old right here lived his life serving the Pittsburgh community. He didn't want to do it. He had to do it. He was a necessity for
Starting point is 01:26:46 all the Inzers. On kids in the winter, he'd give them coats, Project Bundle Up. Boom. Joe Nardo. That was a trip. You guys are golfing. Sorry, your golfing's getting offended. Joe Nardo just didn't want you to have a 7-iron with a lightning rod right through it
Starting point is 01:27:02 like your fucking Thomas Edison. He's at stake. He looks like a nice guy. He is! He's the greatest of all time! That's what I'm saying. He looks like a good guy. If Joe would have somehow lived... Looks like L. Ron Hubbard in that left picture. Easy. You shut up.
Starting point is 01:27:17 The photo on the ID looks like I see one. Keep going, AJ. Keep going. Do not let AQ get your little toxic brain into a place where – I don't know Joe DiNardo. I didn't grow up in Pittsburgh. That's what I'm saying. You are not allowed to say –
Starting point is 01:27:30 Did Joe hate the iPhone because it made weather people obsolete? Because we just look – Here we go. That's what kills us. Oh, you can read the Doppler like DiNardo, huh? Nobody can read the Doppler like DiNardo, pal. I do not get into a position where you think you can bury joe donardo because of what this golfing hillbilly just said about joe donardo okay joe knew all right fucking joe knew both of them yeah that's right back to you all right anyways tambe buccaneers
Starting point is 01:28:02 evacuating is a big deal that's a big step Joe Nardo would have been the one they would have called To see if they should have fucking evacuated or not Let's assume they did call Al Roker and the boys at the Doppler station And maybe even Jim Cantor Snuck his nose in there and said I got some ideas and some plans myself Seems like Hurricane Ian is going to be something though By all the people that know shit
Starting point is 01:28:21 And there's a lot of things that we need to account for Going forward into the weekend Not just my there's a lot of things that we need to account for going forward into the weekend, not just my life, a lot of other games that, you know, maybe we should judge how we bet on it and everything like that. Do we know, is that still going to be Sunday night football, even if it's a different location? Like, is there a chance that they're going to flex? I mean, I don't know if they can do that this early.
Starting point is 01:28:38 Week seven is when flexing starts, but this would certainly be a situation that's an outlier where it would be like, maybe we should take a game like the Indianapolis Colts and the Tennessee Titans. Oh, please. You know what I mean? That would suck. Make that Sunday night football right there in Lucas Oil with the suite that is overpriced right there on the field.
Starting point is 01:28:59 It's a nightmare. Bring in Tariko. Bring in Collinsworth. Maybe not that game, but another other game. Maybe this is a situation where they would decide to do it, or AQ, you don't think so? I mean, I think there's a chance. If there's ever a time where there's a chance, it's right now.
Starting point is 01:29:14 Like, this is very different circumstances, but I don't see it happening. So let's talk about you don't see it happening because it's going to be a tropical storm? No, I just don't think that they'll make the flex move before the seven-week rule. They ain't moving Brady out of prime time. AJ, you think, and if they're playing in like a half-filled stadium, it might be even better. You know, it might get even better access, might get better everything. It's kind of like a special occasion, almost like a bowl game's happening in Tennessee.
Starting point is 01:29:43 They can almost build up some graphics to make it a little bit like that if they wanted to. I mean. Up to you. Up to you guys. Thursday night football, Sunday night football on Thursday. That was an interesting start to the season. You guys knew you were going to have that. You couldn't just put it on Thursday.
Starting point is 01:29:59 Let's not ruin the graphics. I get it. But for me, we're just banking on this thing becoming a tropical storm. That's kind of what people are betting on. They're like, it's going to be a hurricane. It's going to be a tropical storm. I don't know enough about weather. Do you? No, I don't know anything about weather, but I guess you got to prepare for it to be a terrible hurricane. And hopefully it just, you know, it falls off. It sounds like some people down there are preparing for it to not be hurt.
Starting point is 01:30:21 Yeah, at all. I got this thing. is... So they're just hanging out like, oh, you guys are all marks for leaving. Yes, that is kind of how some people... That happens every time there's a storm though, right? Like there's a certain people that stay back and then call everyone else marks and then let's see who wins. Yeah, and we just got to hope
Starting point is 01:30:35 that this becomes tropical storm. Because the team go home. Also, it could affect them long term. Like I would say, let's say they play a game Sunday. It gets moved somewhere in the Midwest. Do they get to fly home right afterwards? Because that sucks if they're going to stay a few more days wherever they are.
Starting point is 01:30:48 Well, if they're in Nashville, I mean, what a time. They'll get on those little pedal bars. Yeah. Well, it should be gone from Florida by the time the game kicks off because Saturday is up by South Carolina. What damage does it do, though? You've got to think about all that type of follow-up there. Right on the bay, too, for Tampa, literally Tampa Bay.
Starting point is 01:31:03 Yeah, the water's right there. I mean, it could affect their living situations long-term as well. Feasibly. Feasibly. It could. In theory, could jeopardize a lot. We have no idea because we don't know what this is going to be. Is Ian going to be an asshole, or is Ian just going to be a soft little bitch?
Starting point is 01:31:19 We're all hoping for B, but maybe we keep poking the monster, we get A. And if that's the case, there's going to be a lot. What was the one that came up on the Jersey Shore and stuff? Katrina made the Saints move. Saints had to move when Katrina hit. Katrina, New Orleans, terrible, obviously. Sandy. Sandy was the one.
Starting point is 01:31:39 So when Sandy came through, we were playing in Tennessee. Windy as fuck in Tennessee. So I think we should take that into account for no matter where this hurricane is, there's a good chance that there's going to be a lot of action everywhere because of it. Now, I think I heard somebody say Sandy's comparison here to what Ian is, has started and is maybe going forward. And everybody likes to sensationalize everything. And obviously Sandy was horrible. And we hope for that never to be again.
Starting point is 01:32:07 And there is a chance, I guess, that this could be, but there's other people that believe it couldn't. But when Sandy came, we played in Nashville, and it was fucking very, very, very windy. I remember it like it was yesterday. And I don't remember, I don't think I asked a local Joe DiNardo if this was just because of how Tennessee is or if this was because of Sandy.
Starting point is 01:32:26 But my feeling is that it was implied that this is, no, when a hurricane is coming, like, weather is everywhere going to be affected by it. Just spitballing here. And the NFL can do what the NFL is going to do. But let's play this thing Sunday night, Kinnick Stadium, Iowa City, Iowa. Tom Brady, home team. The Chiefs will have to be in the pink locker room.
Starting point is 01:32:47 So even though they're closer, you know, they don't really have a home field advantage. I mean, it really makes a lot of sense to me. That's a cathedral of football. Let's do it. Let's just end it right now, end the discussion, play this thing in Iowa City on Sunday night. They can wave to the hospital too.
Starting point is 01:33:03 Boom. Everybody wins. Tom would wave. Who wouldn't wave? That's a good question. B.A. Two folks on four. Wave at the fucking kids after we win. Kids don't want to wave to a bunch of fucking losers anyways. Whoever wins this game
Starting point is 01:33:17 gets to wave to the kids. Before the game, we don't wave to the fucking kids because we might lose the game. Let's win the game. Then we'll be heroes to the kids. We wave to the fucking kids. That'd be hilarious. Listen to B.A. break that whole wave down. But is that AstroTurf or grass? Grass.
Starting point is 01:33:31 Thick grass. Slow-ass grass. Good for punting grass. Shout out to Torrey Taylor. That's right. I'm excited to see what the boys do up there in Iowa. Why don't they get creative like something like that? Oh, because the NFL wants all the money. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:33:42 Won't make enough money. That would be cool, though. It would be cool. And it's a good opportunity. Good weather still. It's not going to be freezing cold. Right. You have an opportunity to potentially do a college.
Starting point is 01:33:51 Now, I'm not saying Iowa is the one, but some college stadium that is maybe open that can house whatever the number of people are going to be to show up. Some of those college stadiums that were so fucking 102,000. Too big. Big house. 102,000 fucking Tennessee, dude.s are so fucking – 102,000. They're too big. Big house. 102,000. Fucking Tennessee, dude.
Starting point is 01:34:07 That's so many. So many. That's so big. Michigan's what, 110? Yeah. They're the second biggest stadium in the state. What's the biggest? I think MetLife.
Starting point is 01:34:18 No. It doesn't seat the most. I swear. If they had bleacher seating, it might, but it definitely doesn't seat over. I think Michigan might be one. I don't know if there's... I think Michigan's like 111 or something. I don't think there's any NFL teams that are going to top 110,000.
Starting point is 01:34:31 I remember the Washington football team that had the name before the Washington football team. And they took it off the upper deck. Yeah, but they had FedEx Field in, what was it? It was like 100,000, I think. Remember when they built it? Maybe the Cowboys. What are the Cowboys?
Starting point is 01:34:43 I think they're under 100. They're under... Yeah, there's no NFL stadiums that are 100 because they have bleachers. Remember when they built it? Maybe the Cowboys. What are the Cowboys? I think they're under 100. They're under, yeah. There's no NFL stadiums that are 100 because they have bleachers. It's too nice. You know, like the Colts Stadium, where they have the seats. They have college stadiums that have bleachers so you can jam more people in. Yeah, everybody's just standing on top of each other. Michigan Stadium, number one, 107,000.
Starting point is 01:34:58 Beaver Stadium in Pennsylvania. Wow. The Colts fills up 106,000. Ohio Stadium in Columbus, the Horseshoe, $102,000. Kyle Field down there in Texas, the Aggies, which, I mean, they paid a lot of money not to be doing what they're doing. That's right. They get a big-time win.
Starting point is 01:35:15 Max Johnson won't be a guy. We'll see. $102,000. Neyland Stadium, another $102,000. Baton Rouge, calling Baton Rouge, $102,000 for LSU. Austin, Texas, $100,000. Bryant-Denny in Alabama, $100,000. Baton Rouge, calling Baton Rouge, 102,000 for LSU. Austin, Texas, 100,000. Bryant-Denny in Alabama, 100,000. Sanford Stadium in Georgia, go Bulldogs, 92,000.
Starting point is 01:35:32 Cotton Bowl, 92,000. Rose Bowl, 90,000. Ben Hill Griffin Stadium where Florida plays, 88,000. The NFL doesn't have a team on there until 16, and it's at 82,000. And then FedEx Field is at 82,000. So Lambeau Field, 81,000. Congrats to Lambeau, AT&T stadium, 80,000. Yeah. And it's all because to AJ's point, all those colleges just stack motherfuckers on top of each other.
Starting point is 01:35:56 Texas though, I got to be in that stadium. You know, we did the run in the middle of college game day, their sweet section. Top non real, really, really really nice that's why i was surprised to see their name so high over a hundred thousand because that looked way too comfortable to have a hundred thousand people in there can we that is so many fucking people that's massive think about the money dude just the money rose bowl would be everything around it but parking everything that's a hell of a trip for them to play in the Rose Bowl. That'd be a long trip. So much money, though.
Starting point is 01:36:27 And that's just – some of those stadiums are going to fill up every single week regardless. The Colt is going to go to those Penn State games regardless if the team stinks or not, right? AQ? 100%. That city, State College, Pennsylvania, they say on game day becomes the third largest city in the state of Pennsylvania. It's a super small town. Think about that. Well, that's how you get away with stuff.
Starting point is 01:36:48 AQ, are there people that live there, AQ? Yeah, there's people that live there. It's just, I mean, it's mostly... That aren't affiliated with Penn State. Do people live there and do other things? Yeah, I think there's like a big agriculture kind of farming stuff going on. It's out there, right?
Starting point is 01:37:02 If I do remember driving to it, you got to drive through some sticks to get to it. It in the middle of nowhere airport when you guys fly in there you fly an hour away no there's a there's an airport there but they it's a short runway so like if there was weather in the area when we were coming back home we would have to fly into harrisburg or how far drive hour and a half yeah yeah we bus we had a bus to penn state one year because of weather so we just got in the bus and took off those runways interesting because you land in some places that have shorter runways and if you know going in you know the landing is going to be you know like they're hitting the brakes as quick as possible and then on takeoff you're getting up as quick
Starting point is 01:37:38 as possible and then there's some places have nice long runways and it's like oh this is the smoothest takeoff and smoothest landing of all time and the pilot's like well yeah i had fucking room you know this is american made tom cruise in this fucking thing out of this city it's flying is a modern marvel tampa it'll never make any sense to me that runway in tampa when we would land you would land and boom they smack the brakes and you fucking that was scary teeterboro is another one over there in New Jersey. They have very small runways in New York, New Jersey because there isn't a lot of space. That's why people hate flying in now.
Starting point is 01:38:11 Obviously, there's a lot of people. Getting to it is terrible. But your flying experience is nowhere near good either because that shit, you're waiting in line. You could be like 35th in line at those runways over there, at those airports. You wait, you wait, you wait. And then when you take
Starting point is 01:38:25 off you're literally shot out of a slingshot straight up in the air it's like well flying is terrible this is no fun at all it's like well that is the situation you're currently in to live in that box that you live in in new york i'm sure it's a great time let's move on mac jones will miss a couple games due to a severe high ankle sprain this has been a fascinating conversation to kind of dive into because mac jones was asked about this thing yesterday in a press junket or whatever. They were zoomed in very close on his face. I'm talking about on his face. Why is that?
Starting point is 01:38:52 It looked like the TikTok that people post their TikToks like that. I don't know. It kind of happened last night whenever I was on the Manning thing too. I'd lean my face in there and it would cut off the entire thing because I was getting excited. So I don't know if it's just because they have a computer right there and he's just sitting right in front of it.
Starting point is 01:39:07 Kraft has Kraft Productions. They have their own press conference, the whole thing. I don't know why you wouldn't give them a better setup. Nonetheless, we get a very close-up of Mac Jones talking about his injury, and this is what he had to say about his ankle sprain and expectations going forward. A question on the high ankle sprain. The tightrope surgery that has been done on high
Starting point is 01:39:26 ankle sprains lately um it was big when you were at alabama i know you had mentioned it a couple years ago there was a quote from you today just on the efficacy of it um i was wondering if that was something that's come up uh every process and kind of your thoughts on that being uh uh an avenue here it's good haircut no bull yeah I'm just kind of taking it day to day and making sure everything's good. Honestly, any injury questions are Coach Belichick's thing, so I'm not here to answer them. I appreciate everyone kind of reaching out and looking after me,
Starting point is 01:39:58 but it's kind of just a day-to-day thing, and I'm just trying to get better. Okay, so hey, listen, Belichick is the right, is the guy you need to direct that question. Now there's multiple reports coming out from local reporters in the New England area and the Revolution region about how the team has what their expectations are and Mac Jones has what his expectations are. This is coming from James Stewart.
Starting point is 01:40:18 The Patriots and Mac Jones are at a disagreement about how to move forward. Patriots want to get him back as soon as possible, and he's hesitant to their guidance and wants to proceed with caution. Second opinion, Pat's timeline is four weeks max. He's comfortable waiting six to eight if needed. So this report is wild, okay, just in of itself. How's it get out?
Starting point is 01:40:39 What's that? How's this news get out? How do we know if any of this is true? Well, if we were to dive into this, he's seeking a second opinion, right? Unless he already got a second opinion, which would be tough. Everyone should get second opinions. The team wants you to get a second opinion.
Starting point is 01:40:52 I agree, AJ. If I could finish my thought here so we can fucking tag team this thing, that would be fantastic. So in this report, it's saying like a second opinion. So unless he was able to do that within four hours of the game, and if he was able to find a second opinion with a doctor that's probably out of state maybe in Vail Colorado where Thomas Clanton is who's the one who's done the tightrope surgery to Tua and others in the past I don't know how he had been able to get a second opinion already so if Mac Jones is comfortable doing
Starting point is 01:41:18 six to eight weeks and the Patriots are saying four weeks max in this report this is what James Stewart reported he might have heard this. Mac Jones then looks at the medical professionals of the New England Patriots who tell him we think it's a four weeks max thing. Without getting a second opinion, Mac Jones looks at him and goes, nah, this is six to fucking eight weeks. Like, how does that even, I don't even know how that would even be possible. I don't even know how that takes place. Let's assume that Mac Jones is going to get a second opinion.
Starting point is 01:41:43 And with what he saw with Tua, who got the tightrope surgery on December 1st, 2019 was back December 29th, 2019 with a high ankle sprain, that's four weeks. And he saw how good it was in the efficacy of the tightrope surgery. There was a good reason for Mac Jones to be like, well, I'm actually going to go talk to this doctor that I know has helped out one of my friends in the same exact situation, just get his thoughts on it. So I would assume the Patriots would want him to do that, right? Because if this doctor is that fucking good and he's the expert of it, he would want to do it. So I think this report, although
Starting point is 01:42:13 I don't think James Stewart's making shit up, I think he's potentially hearing parts of the story. I just don't know how in actuality it would take place unless Mac looks at a doctor and says, nah, six to eight weeks without even talking to his own doctor. That is just, I don't think that's something Mac Jones would do, and says, nah, six to eight weeks without even talking to his own doctor. You know, like that is just, I don't think that's something Mac Jones would do.
Starting point is 01:42:28 And it doesn't sound like it makes any sense, AJ. Yeah. So that was yesterday, right? Where he's, he's doing that video, the zoomed up video. Today is Tuesday. So yeah, if he's getting a second opinion, it might be today. So how could you, like you said, how could you challenge the timeline that they give you right away?
Starting point is 01:42:43 I obviously, I assume he got his MRI yesterday or after the game sunday but yeah i don't know do the patriots want him to get the surgery you think or they think hey just let's rest it and come back and for i have no idea i i just i think the patriots will want whatever is going to make him the most healthy the quickest personally and also long-term health as well like they do they know they got to win now and they want them back as soon as they can but they know like all right we want this guy around too and i don't want to sound like a mark and just assume the best thoughts for people and the best opinions for people but bill belichick you think you think he's gonna he's the gm too right so he's directly involved
Starting point is 01:43:16 in all these conversations he's not saying mac yeah you're back in four weeks okay like in 2022 with mac jones i don't think that's happening. So, you know, the report, I think, I think once again, could have heard these things like max people might say six to eight weeks. Like, I don't think we have any of those answers yet until the second opinion comes. And we assume the second opinion is going to be from Thomas Clanton, the doctor in Vail who did the tightrope surgery to Tua. So unless he's traveling out to New England or he's traveling out to Vail to get it done, let's assume that hasn't taken place yet. We might be wrong though. Maybe that second opinion has already taken place and Thomas Klein's already given that back, but we're going to assume
Starting point is 01:43:52 that has not taken, we're only on fucking Tuesday right now. What they could have done is sent his MRI results to these other doctors. That's something they do as well. I know I tore my pec. We sent it off to a couple of different people to see what they would say for your timetable, like your return. And everyone does have kind of different opinions on how long it takes to to come back from certain injuries but like everything else like everyone it's an individual thing too some people are faster than others imagine if bill belichick and the new england patriots medical staff looks at dr thomas clanton who's had like he's the authority on these types of surgeries and ankles and the patriot scout listen go, listen, Mac, fuck this guy.
Starting point is 01:44:26 That would be how that would have to happen. For that report to be true, that would be how it would have to happen, and I just don't know if that's necessarily how it would have to take place. Well, and like you said, the success with Tua Waddle got it too, but I think even more so like the relationship Bill has with Nick Saban. Like if this wasn't going to be a thing and Bama didn't send their players to this guy specifically to fix these sprained ankles sooner, then that'd be one thing. But like Bill and Nick Saban are best friends.
Starting point is 01:44:53 I would assume that if Bill had any doubts or questions about it, he'd reach out to Saban like, hey, does this take longer or is this guy the real deal? And by all accounts, it seems like this guy is going to have, you know, Mac Jones back before the bye week, which is great news, unless, you know, that bullshit report is true, which I think it is not. You should always get a second opinion. That was a big fight for players for a long time,
Starting point is 01:45:16 to be able to get a second opinion, because sometimes a team would not be operating in anywhere near the player's best interest and just saying, oh, yeah, I think you got this, you got this, and they're acting as medical professionals, and this has happened in the NFL. I'm not saying I've been around it or A.J.'s been around it or A.Q.'s been around it. We're just saying things that have happened in the past
Starting point is 01:45:33 that have set a precedent. I think a second opinion is vital. I think it's an awesome idea. The more information, the better. But I think we're a little bit too soon on the jumping to conclusions on how long it's going to be. Either way, even though he looked like he was an incredible pain aq you always have to take caution early but your body can respond completely different like you might think it's four to six weeks and after two weeks you feel
Starting point is 01:45:56 100 better there was a time where i mean i was playing with the colts and i tore my mcl and i'm like fuck i'm done i fucking just tore my knee it's over and then like MCL and I'm like, fuck, I'm done. I fucking just tore my knee. It's over. And then like by Thursday, I'm like, it feels pretty good. I think I got a chance. I think I'm back. High ankle's a nightmare. I think I'm back. High ankle's the worst.
Starting point is 01:46:14 High ankle's bad. Wouldn't you rather break your ankle? That's what they always said. That's like one of those theories that they always said and everybody's just like, yeah. Depends how bad you break it, I guess, too. Yeah, because anytime somebody gets a high ankle sp ankle sprain they go they say you should have be better you broke that thing instead of that i'm gonna go ahead and break that and everybody's like yeah yeah just move along to the next conversation because we're trying to lift the guy up you know we're like yeah you're tougher than anybody on earth man they say that's worse than an actual break so you know do your thing and
Starting point is 01:46:38 everybody yeah yeah and just walk away it's like how those things linger they linger a lot too those high ankles you got to make sure you feel really good before you come back because that could linger for a long time he was in excruciating pain it was obvious how painful it is a lot of people have i don't say a lot of people have been taken down by ankle sprain but a lot of people have been taken down by high ankles yeah it's painful injury and i mean i feel like we just saw some michael thomas last year right like or two years ago because he didn't really play last year. Was it the story he didn't get a second opinion or he hurt his ankle and then he tried to come back without surgery and rehabbing it
Starting point is 01:47:09 and it never really fully healed? Yeah, he thought he was going to be able to not have to do surgery. Then it got to a point where they had to do surgery. Surgery was too late, missed the entire season. That's the game you're playing. I think all medical people are trying to have the best interest at heart, but some people see things differently.
Starting point is 01:47:27 That's why second opinion is needed. Excited to see what happens with Mac Jones. Obviously not good to see anybody get hurt. Sterling Shepard, it has been confirmed, torn ACL on a non-contact play when he was just running a go route. Absolute bummer for Sterling Shepard and New York Giants who are trying to, you know, become a very new culture under Dayball and Wink Martindale. And I'm just putting those two together, by the way, because I think Wink being added to that squad is a big fucking deal.
Starting point is 01:47:53 AQ, you had to play against Wink, and you were on a team that Wink coached. He's beloved by his players, right, and also a nightmare for the opposing team. Seems like a perfect hire for the Giants if you're trying to change culture on the defensive side of the ball. It's a great hire. I mean, he was beloved by it. So when I was in Baltimore, he was the outside backers coach.
Starting point is 01:48:08 Suggs, Purnell McPhee, all those guys loved him. He moved over into the defensive coordinator position after Dean Pease left and just started bringing the house. He started coming with blitzes from everywhere, cover zero from anywhere. You never know what he's going to do. Doing different stuff, putting D-ends outside on receivers or tight ends and chucking them before they can get going, and then that disrupts the timing of the entire play.
Starting point is 01:48:32 So he does a phenomenal job. Ladies and gentlemen, it is time for a weekly segment that has really captivated the world because the man that we get to talk to is one of the deepest thinkers, an anomaly, maybe an alien, and possibly the greatest thrower of a football in the history of planet Earth. He's the back-to-back MVP, four-time total, just got off a win in the Go-Po in Tampa Bay where he went 27 of 35
Starting point is 01:48:57 for 255 yards and two tuds. I think we have it figured out. Ladies and gentlemen, he looked good earlier. Does he sound great now? Let's assume he does. Aaron Rodgers! Yeah! Can you hear me? Yeah! Good one! Good, I can hear you guys all the time. Thought that ball was going to go in because of it. I was so excited.
Starting point is 01:49:20 I got big time. Grabbed the ball, shot it up there. That's my fourth miss of the day. Let's hope this conversation is not anything like my shooting game. Congrats on a big time, grabbed the ball, shot it up there. That's my fourth miss of the day. Let's hope this conversation is not anything like my shooting game. Congrats on a big win, Aaron. Hell yeah. Congrats on a big win. There was a lot of hype around last week. And the way Olsen was talking on the game and Burkhart were talking on the game, they were like, hey, don't just tell Aaron this is a September game.
Starting point is 01:49:41 He said Aaron understands the legacy, what this game is like. He's a massive football fan. He understands that these two, you and Tom getting to play against each other, isn't going to happen that much more often. And we really got to captivate and enjoy it. Was that a real mindset going into the game? And what did it feel like getting the win, obviously? Is it different than any other game? Or is this just, we got to move on? We're 2-1 now? There's a little bit of a lot of that i think uh i do love the history of the game and i feel really fortunate to be in the conversation can you guys hear me still oh yeah you sound amazing perfect you look great hair looks amazing sound great this is
Starting point is 01:50:17 fantastic great work zd baby i haven't got my chuck berry shirt yet from aj but uh i'm rocking a little uh tunyon and Son sweatshirt here. Hell yeah. Shout out to Bobby Tunyon and his family. That's an Indiana company, I believe. Really? I think he's an Indiana State guy, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:33 Yep. Big Bob Tunyon? Yeah. I think he's from Pittsburgh, actually. Really? Well, we were talking about the game, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, I didn't know he's a yinzer.
Starting point is 01:50:44 Fuck it. And if that's a construction company in Pittsburgh there's probably Italians involved as well I don't know if Tanyan's the only one in that company but nonetheless go back to the game I appreciate you Tanyan I think got changed over at Ellis Island I think it was Tanyini or something Tanyini
Starting point is 01:50:59 of course Tanyini what a player nonetheless yeah it was a good win I don't remember exactly what we were talking about or what Olsen said Yeah, Tagnini, of course. Tagnini, what a player, nonetheless. Yeah, it was a good win. I don't remember exactly what we were talking about or what Olsen said on the cast, but I do enjoy those guys. I'll just say that. You know, I really enjoyed working with Troy and Joe for a long time, but having Kevin Burkhardt and Greg Olsen in those minis out with EA
Starting point is 01:51:24 has been a lot of fun. It's a good group. I'm not sure exactly what they were referring to, but I do love the history of this game, and I love playing in big games like this, even when they're in week three. It still is week three, and so we've got to just enjoy it. But now it's Tuesday. We're moving on to the next opponent.
Starting point is 01:51:40 But sometimes these games factor into late season tiebreakers and different things, and obviously you expect Tampa to be there. They're one of the elite teams in the league. And obviously we expect to be in that position as well. So that was a good win for us. Hell yeah. So what were you saying? What did you see on the jumbotron?
Starting point is 01:51:56 I know afterwards you tried to get someone fired, whoever was operating that down in Tampa. So thoughts and prayers out to that person and their family. But what did you see there? Was that cheating if you saw something and you went and relayed it to somebody? Listen, first of all, the Jumbotron is interesting because you want to show replays, but you also – there's been times where a replay starts to play, right? And then somebody's like, oh, wait, hold on, hold on, turn that off, you know, because it could be a potentially reviewable play.
Starting point is 01:52:24 I think ours has gone to maybe waiting to the next play a lot of times unless it's a for sure you know catch out of bounds or down there's anything kind of on the edge it's always uh you hope that that home operator doesn't show anything i will say to clear things up the questions seem to be like what did you what were you talking to matt Matt about down there on the two minute drive? That's what I was referring to. So during that drive, I realized we were past the point of probably needing a timeout.
Starting point is 01:52:54 I think we had one timeout at that point. So I walked down because Matt loves standing kind of outside of the 25 from time to time. So him and Joe Barry, I'd even scored, never standing down there about the 20 yard line or so. So I just went down there and said, Hey, we have one time to time. So him and Joe Barry, I'd even scored when they were standing down there about the 20-yard line or so. So I just went down there and said, hey, we have one timeout left. If they come out with a formation or if we're missing a line or something, just don't be afraid to pop a timeout because we don't need it for the end of this.
Starting point is 01:53:15 If they score a good two-point conversion, we don't need to carry that timeout over. There's 20 seconds left here. It's probably unlikely we have a chance to, after a play and a kickoff and different things to get in the range. So let's just make sure we think about that. And then, you know, then about four plays before, four or five plays somewhere, it was well before the two-point conversion, I did see something on the Jumbotron that I went down and relayed to Matt. I'm not going to get into exactly what I saw.
Starting point is 01:53:44 Or if it even had a real impact on the play, I think that's kind of inconsequential. But I just thought I saw something. I walked down, I relayed it to Matt. Whether that got relayed to Joe or not, I'm not sure. Either way, it had nothing to do with the two-point conversion. There was not an image of the Microsoft Surface or anything on there. That would have been pretty funny, though.
Starting point is 01:54:06 But even still, you know, even if you know something's coming and you relay it, you still got to go out and execute. I mean, I think that was what Spygate was all about, right? Stealing some signals, but you still got to go out there and execute the play and, in our case, stop them. But it had nothing to do with the two-point conversion. Oh, sweet. So you stole their signals before the game.
Starting point is 01:54:27 And then that's what you saw up there. You were you saw what signal they had out there. And you already had camera people ahead of the time film Tampa Bay Buccaneers stuff. And then you saw it on Jumbotron. No. OK, yeah, you can't even dick around and say yes, by the way. If you imagine if you would have the whole world would have went upside down. You're just saying you saw something during the two-minute drill
Starting point is 01:54:49 that was on the Jumbotron. You relayed the message. Could have helped, could not have helped. Made a play. Defense made a stop whenever they needed it. That's all you're referring to, even though the clip was certainly like they saw a two-point conversion. And Aaron, he saw a delay.
Starting point is 01:55:02 They clipped the question. It was a long question. It was about, you know, we saw you during the two-minute drive. You'd walked out. He talked to Matt and something about the two-point. So I was answering, yes, I went down there and reminded him about the timeout. I also passed along some information I saw, you know, during the drive. But it had, again, nothing to do with the two-point conversion.
Starting point is 01:55:22 Anyway, it was an off-schedule play anyway. So even if I'd, you know'd seen something on the surface, again, you still got to go out and execute. And look, we're talking about heat of the moment stuff. It's just how much information sometimes can be information overload. So whether or not they even got passed on to the defense, I don't know. I just talked to Matt. Got you.
Starting point is 01:55:42 So we, as an internet an internet me included heard that clip saw that clip and overreacted you're saying that's what we did yes okay all right well happy here enough i put my fucking zen necklace on dude i don't know if you even saw this i got a zen necklace on dude i saw you wearing it looking cooler than anybody on earth and i was like i'll put one of these on maybe it'll be like i'm doing ayahuasca you know is that what this is is that what this is you wore it the other day. You look so cool. What is this?
Starting point is 01:56:06 I don't know. It's black on black there. I can't really see it. No, blue. It's blue. Actually, if I wore my black... The only reason why I wore this today is because it blended in too much with the black tank. So I wore the t-shirt just to put this on so you could see it.
Starting point is 01:56:18 What is this here? Oh, nice. Yeah. It looks like some sort of ceremonial necklace possibly a lot of necklaces you know are made by indigenous people and there's like prayers woven into each specific bead and uh so there's you know there's a power of uh of a necklace that has a lot of prayers into it. And, yeah, that was a gift that I got. I just felt like it kind of made the outfit.
Starting point is 01:56:52 You look super cool, dude. Yeah, it was awesome. Aaron, do you not trust wireless headphones? Yeah, what's that all about? Say again? Do you not trust wireless headphones? Don't you think people are trying to steal your info or something? Why?
Starting point is 01:57:07 Because the headphones I was wearing, is that what you're saying? Yeah. Yeah, just because you're always corded up when it comes to your headphones. Yeah, the internet reacted to you being very wealthy and having wired headphones on. And we thought maybe, you know, Dr. Joe Rogan pod, don't need to break up the Bluetooth or anything like that. Yeah, this is really perfect for, this is a great theme that'll come up here at the end of this conversation. But no, I've been, you know, I've represented Bose for a number of years.
Starting point is 01:57:36 They're a great company. They make incredible products. I have tried out some other products, including the Apple headphones. But they have CAA written all over the side. That was a gift from CAA. Big thanks to my marketing people at CAA. But also they have big, it says big CAA sports on the side, you know, instead of kind of maybe in small letters.
Starting point is 01:57:59 So when you're trying to put together an outfit and you want, like, huge, you know, kind of marketing there on the side, I just went with the more comfortable old school headphones. Yeah, I can't go with it. It also has a little, you know, like a thing you can talk into right here if you want to do a phone call. So it's very, very handy. Do you think the CA on those headphones flows with the prayer necklace? Not a chance.
Starting point is 01:58:23 I don't think so. I think you made the right decision. You looked awesome. You guys got a big win. Let's talk about the game. Dobbs seems to be a guy. I mean, it seems like you really enjoy him. He broke a record.
Starting point is 01:58:33 I believe he's the first wide receiver to have eight-plus receptions. Devontae Adams, obviously, was the only guy that's ever done it. He's a young guy you're building a connection with quickly, it feels like. How come? What do you like about him?
Starting point is 01:58:44 And why do you think it's kind of started to work so well for you guys? Well, funny enough, I went to him before the game, and I said, great day to catch your first touchdown today, I think. And he kind of smiled. And sure enough, there's a lot of things I love about Romeo, but it's just his approach. You know, he's very steady. He asks a lot of good questions.
Starting point is 01:59:05 He's sharp when you quiz him in a meeting or if a coach quizzes him, he's always come up with the right answer, cares about it. And the best thing is he catches the ball with his hands all the time. You watch a lot of catches he made. He made a catch last week on a screen press. There was a foot in front of him, easy hands catch. And I was teasing after the game about an interaction we had on Friday where he had a body catch on the sidelines,
Starting point is 01:59:31 and he came back four plays later and made this ridiculous over-the-shoulder hands catch with the ball a foot above his head. He has that innate ability that you love from receivers to be aggressive to the ball and catch it with his hands. And it was fun to get him in the end zone. He made some nice catches. He ran some good routes.
Starting point is 01:59:52 And, you know, he's going to get more opportunities, especially in a game like that where Sammy Watkins is out and now he's on the IR and Christian Watson doesn't play. We need him to step up and have that type of performance. Oh, you guys were out wide receivers? I didn't know that. I thought that was only the other team. I had no idea if you listened to any of the media report. Let's talk about that touchdown for Romeo
Starting point is 02:00:08 because obviously this is a massive moment for him. I saw you all celebrate it. We have the ability here to do some stuff. What are you looking at here pre-snap down here in the red zone, Aaron? I think this is really when you start to start cooking. Now, Matt Hasselbeck told us yesterday that all these plays, potentially
Starting point is 02:00:24 run plays, that you're allowed to check out of any time you want, because it's really clear. You see A.J. Dillon kind of cut this way, and it feels like the entire offensive line is all going this way. But then all of a sudden, you see these two dudes over here, and then you just got these two dudes here, and you make a check and say, I'm fucking throwing it to our youngest guy and make a play out there for me, Romeo Dobbs. Is that kind of how this whole thing went? And as soon as he gets in, are you going fucking bananas for this guy right here who beats three people to score his first ever rookie touchdown in the NFL? Wow. Look at you. You got the video this year, man. That's
Starting point is 02:01:01 amazing. Thank you. Thank you. I feel very good about it. And you can roll it back. All right. Yeah. Pre-snap. Look, we're in a run to the left with a run solution to the right. So contrary to Matt Hasselbeck, this is not a check. This is built into the play. Now, this may have been an adjustment that I added to the play, but it's built into the play. And I'm just looking pre-snap at where the coverage is on Allen at the point and where Davis is outside and where that stud 31 is inside and see how much he's shading to the side of the two receivers and where the defensive end is at and what our run game looks like to the front side and kind of trying to put it all together and see what the best option is. I felt like in this situation I had a chance to get it to Romeo,
Starting point is 02:01:44 and Allen in front of him was one of the felt like in this situation, I had a chance to get it to Romeo, and I had Allen in front of him. He was one of the smartest players in the game, and I felt like he would probably lead the way and get us in a good situation. If I put the ball in a decent spot here, it was, what, third and three. I felt like we had a good chance of getting the first down for sure and maybe a touchdown. Yeah, I think whenever you watch it all take place so quickly, I think, you know, whenever you made that comment about seeing something
Starting point is 02:02:03 on the Jumbotron, everybody on the Internet that is not an Aaron Rodgers stan or fan goes, oh, he gets a delay game all the time. He's bitching about seeing a delay game for Tom Brady, blah, blah, blah. He doesn't. The reason why the play clock runs down so low for guys like you and guys for Tom, you're literally trying to collect all the information you possibly can pre-snap because it's a determiner of what you're going to fucking do at all times, every single play, Aaron? Yeah, I mean, look, we'd like to have better tempo for sure. I felt like there were times, especially the first three drives, we had nice tempo, we're going to allow it quickly.
Starting point is 02:02:41 But there's certain situations and and environments and uh third downs with uh long calls and check with me's and crowd noise where you you're going to be up against the clock and knowing the rule the rule is really it's zero and then look up at the for the back just and look at the clock and then delay, right? It's not zero delay. You know what I mean? Like once it's zero, it's not a delay game. There's always a beat in there for the ref to know it. It seemed like to me on both the last two plays for them that that beat had happened, zero beat delay.
Starting point is 02:03:19 They called it on the second one. They didn't call on the first one. But, yeah, we're up against the clock a lot, and we know the rules. You know, we've got to get that ball off. There's been times where it's been very, very close, but I feel like, you know, we teed that line of, you know, one to zero to delay pretty well. Yeah, I'd say.
Starting point is 02:03:40 That's pretty funny. You said on that play right there, the touchdown pass, that you had a run to the left and then a run solution to the right. So there's a run to the left, a pass to the right. How much more comfortable do you feel now making those decisions at the line than, say, your second year starting? I would imagine it feels a lot easier and better now. Yeah, I mean, I've always been a big fan of them. We put them in years and years ago.
Starting point is 02:04:04 One of the first times we hit it was in 2006 we played the seattle seahawks at uh at seattle on a monday night game i believe later in the season and and brett hit uh donald driver and donald weaved and broke a bunch of tackles or made a bunch of guys miss for like a 60-yard touchdown or something. And that was the genesis of it. In 2007, we played Chicago Bears at home, and they played like 42 snaps straight of the Tampa 2. And a lot of our passes that game were the backside one-step slants against their cover two. They were playing outside leverage, and that was kind of the only way we could get some positive passes because they were begging us to run the football.
Starting point is 02:04:45 And kind of grew from there with different single-man, two-man, back side of runs, front side of runs, three-man stuff that we came up with that kind of went across the league with the outside one and two blocking for number three running to the flat and various things off of that. So it's a lot of fun, and it's a percentage game. You're playing a percentage of what you think the better outcome is going to be, throwing it out to the receiver or letting the run go in those situations. And they're not on every single play.
Starting point is 02:05:17 They're on a few tag-specific runs each game, and every team I think throughout the league is doing something similar. It's a quicker version of the RPOs where you're not the most time not really reading it feels like it's pretty sophisticated offense is that what you were referring to whenever you're talking about the young guys having to understand the whys of plays and is that something that you think like the young guys are obviously romeo you're having you're building a lot of trust with him is he starting to understand the whys of plays and why you might do what you might want to do? Because it sounds like a very sophisticated offense.
Starting point is 02:05:47 Sounds like it. I mean, it sounds like a lot of pre-thought there. Well, you can make anything sound sophisticated enough if you use big words and keep talking about it. But at the end of the day, it's a very simple game. It's percentage-based. What's the best play possible? I remember one time when I was a rookie, we ran a 92 blast.
Starting point is 02:06:11 It was a weak side open play to Amon Green, and I saw him and Derek Brooks hit each other, and it was one of the hardest hits I'd seen. We came back and watched the film, and they were in an eight-man box, and the comment was, well, the defense is going to win sometimes. And I never really, you know, agreed with that philosophy. I always said, if there's a different thing we can do in that situation, why don't we do it?
Starting point is 02:06:34 Then Mike came in with his offense, and we had a lot of answers. So we could adjust plays run to run, run to pass, pass to run, and started doing things to get after the defense when they gave us unfavorable looks. And it just grew from there, the ability to add run solutions now to the outside to do RPO game, as you saw from the college rank coming to the pro rank. And, you know, that's kind of my strategy. Why waste the play if there's an easier, quicker option, better option to get to?
Starting point is 02:07:03 A lot of stuff, you know, going into the season was you no longer have Devontae, who was obviously a massive portion of the targets because Devontae is Devontae Adams. Now you've got a new cast of characters. You get Alan Lazard back. It was obvious that him coming back was massive, not only for your comfort, but for the output of that offense.
Starting point is 02:07:24 Can you put into words Alan Lazard's presence there for you? I mean, I saw him blocking there for Romeo Dobbs touchdown, even though he's just running a route, he was blocking for it. It feels like you and him are on the same damn page and he will demolish dudes in the run game. Seems like he's the perfect teammate for you. He is a perfect teammate. He, you know, he cares about it. He wants to be great, but he celebrates his teammates, and he does the dirty work. He's always been a great blocker, and he does it without complaining. He does it as a lead blocker.
Starting point is 02:07:55 He does it on the backside. He'll sift defensive ends. He's no fear out there, plays with an edge, and we love his approach, and we love when he's a part of the offense. And he can work in the slot and get down the sidelines on inside fade. And he can work outside. And he can break guys off and run read routes and choice routes. And he can do it all.
Starting point is 02:08:16 I mean, he's a fantastic player. I love his story. And the fact that he was kind of a tweener guy, they thought. Is he a tight end? Is he a receiver? Went to Jacksonville, came to us, showed up all over the tape his first year. Then he gets cut. Then he gets activated, never plays until Detroit game on a Monday night. And the history of Alan Lazard was kind of written in the first chapter that night.
Starting point is 02:08:45 And it's been a beautiful start to the book, I think. And I'm really, really proud of him. He's got a great approach. He's a very good leader in our locker room. And when he's out there, we're a much better team. Hell yeah. Ty, your question for Aaron. Aaron, great victory on Sunday.
Starting point is 02:08:59 That one was a lot of fun to watch. When you're looking at the offense as a whole, I think a lot of people look at, you know, you guys only scored 14 points, but you look at the production from Romeo and Allen and Randall Cobb look great. You get Bakhtiari back, not for the whole game, but for a little bit. Are there tangible things that you notice with the offense getting better and kind of just more comfortable week to week that just most fans wouldn't notice and who just kind of want to bitch that you guys only scored 14 points because it really did.
Starting point is 02:09:31 I don't think the scoreboard indicated how well you guys played on Sunday. Thank you, Ty. You look – you're glowing today. Thank you, Ty. Thank you. Fantastic. Thank you. glowing today.
Starting point is 02:09:42 Thank you, Ty. Thank you. Fantastic. Thank you. Listen, this game will always allow for gloating and bitching on both sides. And that's just a part of it. I think that's what makes fans so endearing is they want to gloat about us beating the Buccaneers at the same time, bitch about the production or whatever. Listen, this is a very difficult sport, and it's tough to win.
Starting point is 02:10:11 And the Buccaneers are a great team and have a great defense. Not a lot of teams are going to light them up. Now, we had three great drives start the game. If I throw maybe a better ball to Jonesy on that third down, he may slip two defenders, and it's 21-3. If he holds on a better ball to Jonesy on that third down, he may slip two defenders, and it's 21-3. If he holds onto the ball, it's 17-3. Then the whole rest
Starting point is 02:10:32 of the game probably has a different maybe flavor to it because we're up two scores for the majority of the game, and that last drive obviously doesn't have the same type of significance, and we're feeling a little bit better about ourselves, and we had some other opportunities. Obviously, I threw a bad pick, one of my only bad plays of the game.
Starting point is 02:10:49 I felt like I played a pretty good game. It was great having Dave out there. I'm so proud of him, just like I was proud of Elton coming back. I had to beg Dave. I had to beg Bach. Dave to be out there. We were laughing, you know, and I'm sure you got AQ in there, right? Yep.
Starting point is 02:11:06 I'm sure he can relate to this. Dave was saying, you know, he never realized what it's like for those players that don't play every snap, you know, where they're, you know, D. Lyman playing three snaps coming out, you know, a linebacker who's not part of the nickel package coming out, or, you know, receivers who kind of come in and out, backs tight ends coming out. He's like, man, it's kind of nice, like playing a series and taking a series off.
Starting point is 02:11:30 Oh, no. He's getting comfortable. He likes it. He likes it, Ty. It sounds like Bach likes this. I mean, I think he played probably a little more than half the snaps, but it was great having him out there. I think he, based on looking at the film,
Starting point is 02:11:42 I think he played really, really well. Hopefully his knee feels great this week and we'll see where he's at. But I feel good about our line and the way they've played and the fact that we can have Josh Myers go out with cramps and bring in Jake Hansen. I feel good about that. I feel good about if we're going to do some platooning with Dave, we bring in Yash Nishman, who's played really, really well for us.
Starting point is 02:12:05 So that helps our depth. But having him and Elton back definitely solidifies our line, and I feel like we ran the ball at times pretty good. That's a great front. And most teams that have scored points on them, any type of points, have done a throw on the ball, so we obviously had to throw a little bit more. Hey, when you watch games, obviously you're playing during the the day when you look on and watch all these games going on there's every once in a
Starting point is 02:12:28 while you see a quarterback who's in like consistent pressure every single drive it seems like multiple times getting banged up never feels comfortable what does that do to a quarterback if you have consistent pressure over and over again does that wear on you week one right i mean that happened to you week one i think yeah it Yeah, it's tough. I mean, it definitely throws off the timing. You might want to speed things up. That's kind of the natural reaction to that. I've got to play faster. I've got to get the ball out quicker. I've got to do this or that.
Starting point is 02:12:54 I think there's some ways of helping with that. You know, one thing is always mixing up the looks. You know, mixing up, especially when you've got great edge rushers. Can't give them the same look every time. We've got to slide to them sometimes, slide away. We've got to chip up sometimes. We've got to have a tight end in the back every time. We've got to slide to them sometimes, slide away. We've got to chip up sometimes. We've got to have a tight end in the back on them sometimes,
Starting point is 02:13:09 maybe two tight ends on them sometimes and slide away. You've got to give them different looks. We've got to leave an open end, come back and cut them. Leave an open end, come back and boot. You know, we have to give them cadence as well. You've got to give them different looks. They're not just flying off the ball every time because you let them just fly off the ball with 40 dropbacks, a great pass rush is going to get home at least once.
Starting point is 02:13:31 And a lot of guys, once or twice, and then hit you a few more times. So you've got to keep them off balance. And I think under center helps us too. I love kind of being more higher percentage under center in this offense. I feel like it gives us, you know, a lot more things we can do. I think you told us that Mike McCarthy maybe has a rule about taking a shot every single quarter, and you've kind of enjoyed it. Is that a part of keeping defenses off balance as well?
Starting point is 02:13:57 Like, hey, got to take a shot even if you don't think the percentages are that high of a connecting? And how do you get those into the game plan? Just ask for them. Hey, LaFleurflore fuck it i can't hear you sorry let's go deep and chuck it all goes no listen i think you'd like to push the ball down the field especially because that you just got to give them the threat of running by them um but you know we're such a schematic uh offense that does also rely on timing. We give you so many different looks that have very similar things. I like the mix-ups that we had this week with fly motion on some of our guys
Starting point is 02:14:35 and then, you know, toss action and coming back and faking the toss and running keeper off of that. I felt like that was really effective for us. So that's what we try and do. We try and make it all marry up, the run game with the action game, you know, with the keeper game. And when we're doing that, you know, it's going to help us keep the defense at least, you know,
Starting point is 02:14:54 not clued into exactly what we're doing. Did you and Tom text each other after the game, or was it just that dap up afterwards? Hey, good. See you down the road. Yeah, there were a couple messages sent back and forth. Yeah, a lot of respect. What'd you say, man?
Starting point is 02:15:08 You looked handsome. You guys didn't win, but you looked handsome. Like, what do you guys say? I mean, he knows that. I think he knows that. What is it? He had a nice run. He got called back, but he had a nice run.
Starting point is 02:15:17 Wow, but his knee brace is fucking turning that son of a bitch sideways. So uncomfortable, I'd assume. Yeah, I think he... You got to slide maybe the other foot but if you're you know if you play baseball you probably either a right foot forward slider or left foot forward slider and i think he's a left foot forwards or a right foot forward slider so his left knee is bent so that's going to catch the turf and turn that thing around a little bit he had like offense alignment don joy's because he never runs. So it's not
Starting point is 02:15:45 even like a thought of, cause there's no offense alignment at a slide. You got the clip. Oh yeah. Right foot forward. Yeah. Right foot forward slider. So I thought he looked natural. I thought he looked natural by the way. The knee brace kind of made him look unathletic at the end. I thought he looked very natural through this and he obviously felt like he was flying because he was, uh, the knee brace got figured out. Did you guys text about the knee brace or about life in general or anything? I was actually wondering if he had the GPS for his top speed on that run, so I was just waiting to hear back from that.
Starting point is 02:16:17 He'll have it figured out. TB12 will have it down to actually, I think it'll be millimeters per second. They'll get it done because it's the little things. The big things take care of themselves. Congrats on the win. Congrats on the win'll get to die, you know, because it's the little things. The big things take care of themselves. This week, congrats on the win. Congrats on the win. The goat boy, you won. Congrats.
Starting point is 02:16:30 Happy about it. Pumped about it. Let's continue to move forward. Now you've got the Patriots. And anytime you take on the Patriots, I assume you just have massive respect for Bill Belichick. That's how I am. Every time I pick a game, I'm like, I feel like Bill Belichick will figure it out. What is it against the Patriots defense that is different, if there's anything, because Bill Belichick's over there for you going
Starting point is 02:16:48 into the game week? Well, he's the best coach of all time. GM too, probably, by the way. GM too. Yeah, I mean, he's a legend, living legend. And he's been ahead of the game for a long, long time. He makes incredible in-game adjustments halftime adjustments third quarter adjustments fourth quarter adjustments whatever it takes you know that there's going to be an initial idea about what they want to take away from our offense and then they'll have you know two or three you know plan b a plan c a plan d we we figured that out in 2014 and And I've told this before. They wanted to take away Jordy and Randall.
Starting point is 02:17:27 We went to Devante. They wanted to take away Devante and went to Jordy. We're going to really take away Jordy for sure and Devante. We went to Randall. I mean, that's what they do. They're always mixing it up. There's different fronts. He's added an extensive zero blitz scheme to the repertoire.
Starting point is 02:17:42 But he's a fantastic coach. And you just never know exactly what you're going to get but you got to be ready for all of it do you have any relationship with him because i always see him he goes talks it feels like to guys that he has respect for after games i assume he's come up to you and chatted with you do you guys have any relationship at all i think just a mutual respect i've seen him a few times over the years at various events but but uh just a lot of respect i mean for me i just i think he's a fantastic coach and i love uh you know love what he's accomplished and love what he's about and think he's hilarious in his press conferences and
Starting point is 02:18:13 and yeah he's a legend yeah i fucking love it mac jones uh just yesterday was like uh injury questions are for bill belichick so then bill comes up and they're like, what about Mac's injury? And doctors are looking at it. Just fucking buries him. I mean, it is. Being a local reporter up there has got to be either the scariest thing of all time or the most hilarious thing of all time. Maybe at the same damn time.
Starting point is 02:18:35 Can't wait to watch how it all pans out. Connor has a question for you going into New England this week. Yeah, Aaron, please take it easy. If you feel like, you know, you're beating the Patriots too bad, maybe throw left. You only do no looks. But with Mac Jones and New England, have you kind of had any thoughts about how the offense is being run and how difficult do you think it is for Mac having two guys kind of call in plays?
Starting point is 02:18:58 I think that a lot of times, and again, this is just an opinion. This isn't based on anything that I insight information. But a lot of times when there's stories that are out there about that, in actuality, one guy is really doing it. Oh. There's conversation around who's calling a defense sometimes, this person or that person. It's usually figured out in-house, and then maybe for whatever reason it's not really talked about a whole lot outside of it,
Starting point is 02:19:27 or it's just not a big deal. There might be some defenses where one guy calls first or second down, one guy throws in a call on third down, a position coach or a pass game coordinator or something, and it's never that big of a deal. So I think for the most part, a lot of that's maybe just fodder for media consumption. I would guess at a place like New England with Bill, it's probably pretty smooth. So whoever's calling it, I'm sure that Bill's making sure that's as smooth as process possible. I would be highly surprised if there's any strife or struggle or back and forth or wondering who's doing it.
Starting point is 02:20:06 Because in actuality, I believe that there's only one way of talking to the quarterback, like one headset that talks to him. I mean, that's what I would want. I wouldn't want two different voices in my head. So somebody ultimately has the final say on what the call goes in, and then they go run it. So I don't know that that's that big of a story. A bigger story would be if there's a major change in philosophy or terminology. But I would assume it's Bill O'Brien, right? No, it's Joe Judge.
Starting point is 02:20:39 Joe Judge. And Matt Patricia. Okay, so I would assume those guys use pretty similar terminology to Josh because they're all in the system together. So I would assume it's not that big of a difference. Got it. How important is that guy that is calling the offensive plays? I tell Pat all the time, I think that guy has –
Starting point is 02:20:58 that coach has the ability to have the biggest impact on the game one way or the other, good or bad, the person calling the offensive plays. Is that something that you could see? Like, would you want to call plays? Let's say, hypothetically, you were a coach someday. Would you think you'd be a good in-game play caller? I think I would because I know what I don't want as a quarterback. So it's you, though.
Starting point is 02:21:19 You would have to be calling your own plays, not for another quarterback. Like, you're calling for – No, I could call for another quarterback like you're calling i can call it for another quarterback and i have before uh that's that's a story for a different way but okay 2011 to week 17 i called that game a good portion of flinters did we win with a record when flinter set the record he had a nice day he had a nice day for like 500 yards you can do is this information brand new? Yeah, 480 and 6. It's not a new record. You called all of them? You called the whole game? I called
Starting point is 02:21:50 a lot of that game. Hold on. Is this brand new information that you might be the greatest offense coordinator in the history of offense coordinator? Matt Flynn throws for 500 fucking yards with you on the headset. Is this new news? I don't think that's new news. I think it's been out there that I had a hand in a lot of those calls.
Starting point is 02:22:07 Well, congrats, dude. Wow. Way to have it. Great day on the headset. Hey, I didn't do a whole lot. Again, Matt balled out. He's got to be in there emotionally. They drew him offside through a touchdown. He threw a key to Jermichael for a
Starting point is 02:22:22 touchdown. He had an empty pressure throw to Donald for a touchdown. We had a screen to Jermichael for a touchdown. He had an empty pressure throw to Donald for a touchdown. We had a screen that nobody ran the screen except for the receivers and Ryan Granning. Ryan went 80 yards for a touchdown. I mean, it was a well-played game for Matty. I'm really happy for him. But my whole point is slower is better.
Starting point is 02:22:42 Annunciation is important. So that's what Matt and I, when I i he doesn't know all my i come up with new signals for him from time to time like he knows that this means that i can't hear you right but i'm trying to get him on this one right this one means slow down enunciate enunciate please say the words that you're trying to get out of your mind now and i'm like many hey just slow down bro i can't understand what you're saying to get out of your mouth. I'm talking to my wife now, and I'm like, Matty, hey, just slow down, bro. I can't understand what you're saying. There's a lot of people talking to me.
Starting point is 02:23:09 So just slow down and stay with me. But thankfully, Jordan does a great job. Jordan loves it. He's always watching me and standing there, Matt. And Matt, you know, like Mike used to always stand like right to my left, like right on the yard marker, right? So it was great. So I just look at Mike, hey, one more time.
Starting point is 02:23:24 Yeah, I didn't hear that. It's fantastic. But Matt, he could right on the yard marker. So it was great. So I just looked at Mike, hey, one more time. He didn't hear that. It was fantastic. But Matt, he could be roaming the sideline. He could be down 50 yards on the other sideline. He could be behind us. Who knows where the hell he is? But Jordan always stays with him. And if I'm like, hey, one more time, what was that again?
Starting point is 02:23:37 Start over, slow down. Jordan's always helping me out with that. So big thanks to J-Lo on that. Hey, the floor's awesome, huh? What do you say after the game, after this game? And obviously it's just a September game, and it's an NFC game, so it's obviously important, and that's a very good football team to get a win. But what was LeFleur's message afterward?
Starting point is 02:23:54 Is he just a fuck it, we're on to the next one guy? Seems like he's a little bit of a psychopath when it comes to football. Is that an accurate read on him? Yeah, I'd say so. Yeah, it feels like it when you're watching listen he loves he loves throwing the occasional bone but it's a little different than than it used to be you know uh victory monday and i don't know if ship remembers this but i'm sure you guys remember this well victory monday used to mean you don't even come in the facility right if you don't want to see
Starting point is 02:24:23 you wednesday see you wednesday right have a great two right if you don't want to see you wednesday see you wednesday right have a great two days off you know go down to milwaukee have a good time go to madison have a blast come on that doesn't happen anymore right so so but i like to needle him from time to time so he was like and guess what guys see you wednesday And I was like, old school see you Wednesday. Actual see you Wednesday. And everybody in there but Mason and Big Dog were like, what does that mean? Yeah. I was like, well, back then we never had to come in on Mondays and Tuesdays.
Starting point is 02:24:57 Now it's, you know, you got to get a flush on Monday. You want to squat for me, squat Tuesdays. So, look, the schedule is great. Uh, you know, after a win, especially when Maddie gives us a little bit of a break, it's also great for the coaches.
Starting point is 02:25:11 I think they can actually, you know, maybe, uh, get home before midnight on a Monday and Tuesday. Cause they're grinding so hard watching their desks, but, um,
Starting point is 02:25:19 but that old school watching your garden, their desk, garden, their desk. Uh, Hey, this, Old school watching your desk. Guarding their desk. Guarding their desk. Hey, this question came up earlier. We were pontificating about it. And since you've been around the NFL for so long and you are a runner, okay, still moving, by the way.
Starting point is 02:25:38 You still got it. You know what I mean? You're doing a basketball training offseason. It's paying off. You still got it. You still got some wiggle. Last night, Sterling Shepard, non-contact, running a go route, tears his ACL. Odell Beckham Jr. responds on the internet and basically says, like, what are we even doing?
Starting point is 02:25:55 We need to get rid of all turf fields. And we're not saying that the turf field necessarily caused Sterling Shepard, but it certainly has raised the conversation again about turf fields and grass fields. And we talked about how in the Premier League and all these other leagues that involve a playing surface that is grass or whatever, they have these incredible technology that are able to keep the grass perfect. They invest in it. They pay for it. They do the whole thing.
Starting point is 02:26:18 And the NFL is still like there's some grass teams, there's some turf teams, and it feels like guys continue to get hurt. Now, from a business perspective, I think the NFL owners should view it as an investment in their team because if you lose a star player, you're probably not going to sell as many tickets, you're not going to have as many eyes. But I think it's difficult for them to do that
Starting point is 02:26:35 if they hear the large number it's going to cost to have grass fields in every stadium. Do you think we're ever going to find a time in the NFL where it's all grass fields? And are you a proponent of that? And what is the difference between the two from your perspective, Aaron? Yeah, that's a great question. I don't know if we're ever going to get a standard for that because it's up to the owners.
Starting point is 02:26:58 The owners have such a hold on what happens in the league, as some people think they should. There's not a standardization across the league, even on grass fields or on turf. So grass in Chicago is different than the grass in Tampa. Grass in Green Bay is different than the grass in San Francisco. It's different types of grass, different lengths of grass, different consistencies. I love our field, but it can get slick at times for sure. Other fields, you know, in nighttime or, you know, in humid weather might not get as slick. Chicago's always kind of grown their grass out a little bit longer.
Starting point is 02:27:40 It used to be a lot longer than it is now. It used to be really long. It used to be a lot longer than it is now. It used to be really long. But the indoor facilities, though, don't have a consistent, I don't believe, don't have a consistent standard. Meaning, I think all the fields are a little bit different, right? That's just, you know, again, I don't have the specifics on those. But some fields seem a lot more firm. on those but some fields seem a lot more firm some are a lot to have a lot more give where there's a little bit of you know sometimes uh wobble you know when you're making your cuts and
Starting point is 02:28:12 i think some of those the wobbles on a microscopic level can lead to some of these injuries probably that's what odell i'm sure is talking about i actually saw the play that shepherd and it was a wild play right look he's just running normally and then goes down to me i thought oh that did he like something with cartilage on the lateral side maybe but you're saying his acl yeah i confirmed torn acl out of nowhere so he had achilles last year fucking yeah no it's awful he's been hurt you know i think the last four years now so it's that's awful for a kid that. But there's a lot of non-contact injuries on those indoor surfaces. I don't know if it's at a higher level or not. I'm sure that somebody can do some research on that.
Starting point is 02:28:52 But I think it would be hard to do an across-the-ball or across-the-board standard for it. But most players, the majority of players, especially older players, would love playing on grass. That's why even in the wintertime here in Green Bay on some of our coldest days, when Matty asked me what I want to do, I said, let's go outside. I'd rather go outside in 10 degrees and then practice indoors on the indoor turf. And AJ and AQ talked about this earlier.
Starting point is 02:29:19 Down in Tampa, the older guys would be asked where they want to practice, and they said, give us the 110 sauna outside on the grass, as opposed to the turf on the inside. And you're saying on the opposite end. So people that are watching, that's how players feel. They'd rather go into a fucking hypothermia or into a sauna as opposed to run on this turf for another day, potentially for a full practice. And who knows if there'll ever be any change. I hope so though, Aaron, you know, I kind of hope so. I hope so too. I mean, they're looking into a lot of different issues around injuries and that would be an interesting path to go down and look at the stats on indoor facilities
Starting point is 02:29:55 against outdoor facilities and types of grass and all that things. I'm sure, you know, with the analytics, you know, money that gets thrown around, I'm sure we could figure at least get some sort of information around that. Last question about storylines around the NFL before we get to the book club. Cannot wait to hear what we are reading this week. I mean, last week, the love, I fucking loved it. You could have read The Mastery of Love, which I actually still have right here.
Starting point is 02:30:22 Oh, it was so good. Unbelievable. It was so good. It was so good. It was so good. You could have read that in a week, I'm sure. This next book, I don't know if you could read in a week. You probably want to stretch it out a little bit. Oh, no, there's no chance of me reading it, it sounds like.
Starting point is 02:30:33 But Mastery of Love was sitting right at my desk, two of them. I had two of them because I wanted to read it twice. Instead of reading the same book twice, I wanted to read both books because I wanted people to feel good about it. And boom, fuck. Boom. Bang. Read this thing.
Starting point is 02:30:49 You know, no big deal. I absolutely loved it. I can't wait for it. The abusive language. Did you see this, what happened? Fourth quarter, Chiefs-Colts. Chiefs up five, I think, or up four with five minutes left in the fourth quarter. Third down, Matt Ryan and the Colts don't pick it up.
Starting point is 02:31:05 They're punting. Matt Ryan off the field. Punt team already on the field. Call for abusive language from Stone Cold Chris Jones to Matt Ryan. 15-yard penalty, first down. Colts go down the field, throw a touchdown to Jelani Woods with 20-some seconds left, end up winning the game. Essentially, abusive language was the thing that turned that entire game
Starting point is 02:31:27 and got the Colts to win. Now, I'm happy about it. I bet on the Colts, and I am a Colt. But the whole our take was can't have this happening. Were you guys told about this? Is there some things you can't say, you can say? Do you involve in any of this, and what are your thoughts on it? There's always a video every year
Starting point is 02:31:45 like here's the uh they don't call they can't call them points of emphasis clarification points of clarification yeah that's what it is clarification yeah yeah yeah and you always see those ref the little bit more i remember a game against minnesota where roughing the passer was you know the big thing we're gonna really clamp down on all these roughing the passer was the big thing. We're going to really clamp down on all these roughing the passer calls, right? And Clay hits Kirk, I think, on an intercepted pass. Yep. And they call it back, and the hit was very, very light. And I remember how frustrated we were.
Starting point is 02:32:19 But that was what they were emphasizing at the time. And then there's this year, I think, illegal contact has been something they've been really trying to look at. Stuff that could be away from the ball as well. When it comes to abusive language, I don't really know exactly what that's talking about. I do know that there's certain, you know, code words that they're probably looking for that you probably, you know, are going to get more of us for. Say them. How do we know, though? If you don't have a list of the abusive words, how do you know what's abusive?
Starting point is 02:32:54 Is it you got to put George Carlin special on or what are you going to do? I think, yeah, we need the George Carlin special. I'm not, I don't know. I mean, there's not a list of them, but I would assume if you're putting together some colorful metaphors that you're probably going to have to give yourself a chance to get fined. I mean, I don't know. I don't know what Chris would have said to him. I feel like Chris is a great competitor. He doesn't seem like a hothead to me.
Starting point is 02:33:20 And Matt, great competitor, doesn't seem like a hothead to me either. So I don't know what was said between the two of them that would have been grounds for abusive language, but there wasn't a whole lot of abusive language in our game. It was pretty... Pretty civil. Sue's not there anymore,
Starting point is 02:33:38 but Sue and you and Sue obviously have your whole thing and hopefully that'll get settled one day over some good scotch or maybe some stock investments. I know he's in that. But Matt Ryan didn't even react. Like, Stone Cold Chris Jones was in his face, and he's smiling. Chris Jones is.
Starting point is 02:33:54 Matt Ryan hears it, throws the ball, jogging off the field, probably feeling like we fucking lost this game, and then all of a sudden, abusive language, 15 yards. It's like, I wondered if they tell you guys anything different. It sounds like no. It's just like, hey hey there's some things you can't say you know what they are well it's the taunting as well as a point of uh clarification you know they're really looking at taunting you know standing over a guy or making a demonstration to a guy a lot of them to me it's i don't know man it's and There's been stuff done to me.
Starting point is 02:34:25 If somebody does the belt to me, do I want a taunting penalty on that? No, of course not. I don't know. We just got to be careful going too far on some of these rules. It's like what college did with targeting. Are you shitting me? It's absolutely ridiculous. You're ruining these kids' and teams' opportunities by subjective calls
Starting point is 02:34:47 or weird movements that a defender makes or an offensive player lowers their head last minute and it becomes a helmet-to-helmet. And we're taking kids out of the first half, they're out of that game, right? Second half, they're out of the second half and the first half of the next game. I mean, the punishment doesn't fit the crime at all. It's ridiculous. So we've got to be careful on how far we go on some of these rules.
Starting point is 02:35:09 Again, I don't know what was said between Chris and Matt, but that's what happens. These calls, they're 15-yarders, which severely impacts a game, especially late in a game like that. Yeah, the Colts won because of it, and I don't know if we'll ever know what either of them said to each other or what Chris said to cause a 15-yard penalty. And back to the targeting thing, I think they should look at intent, right?
Starting point is 02:35:31 And I guess that's hard to sell or whatever. But if, like, a guy is clearly putting his head down and trying to spear somebody and take them out, like, I think that's very obvious. Where if a guy like Skolsky gets a big-time shot and his intent is just to make a tackle, and you're kicking this guy to the national fucking championship game, this guy, like, he's worked his entire life.
Starting point is 02:35:50 And then in college, you lose one game, you're not going to go to the national championship. So you take a guy out that's like a staple of your defense who's probably the reason why your team maybe goes to the national championship. It's an interesting thing, and we're in a time right now where everybody's trying to overcorrect things, and maybe we'll finally settle in though you know aaron maybe we'll it feels like we're right i think you're right though pat i think you can especially with the help of replay look at intent and if a guy is spearing eyes closed you know cheap shotting
Starting point is 02:36:20 a guy like aj used to do to me at practice, kick him out of the game, for sure. Kick him out of the game. But if a guy is making a head-up tackle and the offensive player lowers his head or does a weird thing and it comes helmet to helmet, that shouldn't be grounds for an injection. That's ridiculous. You're impacting these kids' lives on a grand scheme,
Starting point is 02:36:41 and I don't think it's right. Yeah, there's a lot of things that we don't think are right, but you know what? This show's going to fucking fix them all. Hell yeah. This show is also going to bring back a lot of literacy advocacy. Ain't that right? This show is going to turn people that would have never opened a book
Starting point is 02:36:54 into full-time readers. This show, in its second time doing it, is going to have the biggest book club that we could possibly have. Ladies and gentlemen, it is time for book number two of the Aaron Rodgers Tuesday Book Club 2.0 aaron rogers is telling us to read what book last week it was the mastery of love which we all read we bought two of them so we could read them twice give them to two friends not just one friend this week aaron rogers is telling us to read a book that he says is much longer so might be a less reading percentage it's much much older, and it's
Starting point is 02:37:26 an important book, I think, to read, because we've got to make this book fiction again. The Bible. Boom. It's one of the most famous fiction books written. Definitely the most famous fiction book written in 1949, and it's called 1984.
Starting point is 02:37:42 Ooh. George Orwell. Ooh, Georgie. Oh, this is going to be some shit, right? This book is something, obviously. I've heard about this book before. This is going to start a conversation that, of course, Aaron wants us to read this book. I would love for you to read the book. I know AJ's already read the book.
Starting point is 02:37:57 He's told me about it. Maybe just the cliff notes. So I know what it means. Yeah, it's an interesting book, especially in the context of our time. It's written in 1949 by a guy named George Orwell about a dystopian future of 1984 where a lot of the things that he wrote about
Starting point is 02:38:14 could have some correlation to things going on in our world today in 2022, especially when the government renames a division of it the Ministry of Truth, which is the organization that the main character Of the book Winston Smith
Starting point is 02:38:26 Actually works for It's an organization That rewrites history Of a single day To change what is true But maybe anti The party ruling Or maybe undermining
Starting point is 02:38:36 The people in charge They rewrite history In order to fit a narrative That better suits The talking heads of the day So very fascinating book It actually got pulled I think think, from many reading lists. It was a book that was on a reading list maybe in eighth grade for many of us,
Starting point is 02:38:49 seventh, eighth grade, junior high, I think, usually. Of course. But a book that still stands up. Very interesting book. Controversial, I think, to some people. But at very least, a book that you can read and say, I'm going to read this book so that this doesn't happen to my society in 2022 and beyond because a lot of things that are happening in this book could be we're moving
Starting point is 02:39:11 towards some of those things right now so you're saying this is like done by the jetsons or by the simpsons people is george orwell one of those time travelers and folk is that what it feels like the simpsons is amazing i mean i still remember watching that video you put out it was like i don know, minutes and minutes long about all the different things they've been right about, including the weirdest thing maybe of all of them was Trump coming down the escalator, right? Yeah, well.
Starting point is 02:39:33 The sign falling down. I mean, the queen, they got the queen's year passing. They got that right, 2022. That's been added to that video. And since we put that video out that has got and this is not like a uh that is good yeah hundreds and hundreds of millions of views like that is the biggest video we've ever done by far and we get uh it's been plopped and put into so many different things because i wasn't the person that created the theory but i was the
Starting point is 02:40:03 person that follow enough people that's like hey people that are in this culture feel the same way as people that are in this culture feel the same way as people that are in this culture. And I have friends in all of them. We all have different things in every culture that's like the Simpsons predicted this. And then in this, the Simpsons also predicted this. And it was like, all right, let's do some fucking research on this and really gather them. Ty went to work. There's like 27 of them or 28 of them that were just like too spot on to be like coincidence.
Starting point is 02:40:28 You know? But apparently the Jetsons, same fucking thing. I guess the Jetsons have like 60 things going through their show back in the day that are all real now and it was supposed to be set in the future and all that stuff. I'm excited to dive into 1984, pal. I know you won't. I know you won't.
Starting point is 02:40:44 Again, it's it's a fascinating book i read it many years ago um and and look through some of the notes i'd made in it uh recently when i picked it up i was trying to find it last week and start with it but actually i enjoyed starting with don miguel ruiz and mastery of love uh as a first one but i think i think pat at some point you would be interested in reading it. It's a fascinating book. Yeah, I've seen it. I haven't even read The Alchemist yet.
Starting point is 02:41:12 The Alchemist is classic. Bro, when I think about The Alchemist, I honestly just think about a movie, a book, I mean, that is just so... It's not over here. It was there, definitely there. I saw the cover oh yeah this one right there yeah well the thing about the alchemist is to realize one's destiny is a person's only obligation and when you're diving into this brazilian author's book right
Starting point is 02:41:37 here paulo you really start to feel that or spanish uh brazilian spanish i think spain Spanish, Brazilian, Spanish, Spain. Portuguese? Brazilian? Is it Brazilian, gentlemen? Could be Brazilian, could be Portuguese, who knows? So they speak Portuguese in Brazil, right? Yes. Hmm. That's confusing.
Starting point is 02:42:02 Obviously, when I read this book, I thought to myself that the idea is that your singular pursuit should be to live in your own dreams. And that's what The Alchemist is all about. And that's why the book club is so amazing, because that's something I would have never dove into. Can't wait to read 1984. Can't wait to hear the response of all the people on the Internet of you picking that book for us to read. I appreciate it. I'm excited about it.
Starting point is 02:42:28 Good luck this weekend against the Patriots. And congrats on your win against the bucks pal thanks guys and i look forward to this every week and can't wait to see y'all next week you're the man aaron rogers oh uh thank you iq thank you to everybody who's watching for all four hours here thank you to aaron rogers obviously for joining us thank you to aj who. Thank you to everybody who was watching for all four hours here. Thank you to Aaron Rodgers, obviously, for joining us. Thank you to AJ, who obviously had somewhere to go. Talks to the table. You guys crushed it. Everybody in the back, appreciate you.
Starting point is 02:42:50 Had some adversity. Yeah. Got it done, though. Stared it down. Went through it. Ran through it. Had to do it. Big thanks to Tone Diggs, who's making the world a better place, being an incredible father.
Starting point is 02:43:01 He'll be back, I believe, next week. Don't want to put too much pressure on him. He can come back whenever the fuck he wants. But I think next week is when he's planning on it. If not, maybe the week after that. We definitely miss him. We missed a hammer down, boys. We do, but we can't wait to get that back in our lives.
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