The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 749 - Everything DB With Darius Butler LIVE From The ThunderDome, Hurricane Ian Update With Tampa Bay Buccaneers Beat Reporter Rick Stroud, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: September 28, 2022

On today’s show, Pat, AJ Hawk, Darius Butler, and the boys chat about the official news that Zach Wilson is back for the Jets this week, keep an eye on Hurricane Ian and what that will mean for both... college football and NFL games this weekend, the body cam footage from Myles Garrett’s accident this weekend, look ahead to tomorrow night’s Thursday Night Football game between the Dolphins and Bengals, and keep an eye on everything else happening around the NFL as we prepare for week 4. Joining the progrum to chat about Hurricane Ian, and what it means for not only Floridians, but for the Bucs/Chiefs game on Sunday Night is Buccaneers beat reporter and Tampa Bay resident, Rick Stroud (1:11:08-1:18:36). Later, Darius Butler breaks down the best Defensive Back plays from week 4 live from the ThunderDome in his weekly Everything DB Segment. Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello beautiful people. It is Zach Wilson. He's back Wednesday, September 28th, 2022. This sports show starts right about now. It's what we chat about here on this particular show because we're a bunch of sports stooges talking about the greatest sport in the land. This weekend, our sports traveling overseas to showcase it. I was going to say how many years it was. I don't have that stat sitting in my brain, I guess. For however many years it's been taking place over in England in London town, we will have another game in the morning when we wake up on a Sunday and it is glorious. It almost feels like it's super wildcard weekend again because there's NFL games all damn
Starting point is 00:00:41 day. It's a much easier slate to watch at one o'clock because there's a game already in the morning and the 4 o'clock slate gets a little bit lighter and then the night game. It is a fantastic time to be an NFL fan because it is popping off this weekend. The Minnesota Vikings are traveling overseas to play against the New Orleans Saints. Is Jameis Winston playing?
Starting point is 00:01:00 We do not know. Remember, this is kind of a story that slipped through the cracks, I believe, because Jameis has played the last two games in the first week when he said there's pain everywhere yep yeah i guess he actually fractured his back so i think that is four or four four vertebrae four vertebraes fractured in his back and that particular game has played since then the offense has kind of been sputtering he might be going through a lot of pain that might be why they stink and they have andy dalton looming over his shoulder with the Florida Lee on his head, traveling to London town. Will Andy Dalton be
Starting point is 00:01:29 taking on Kirk cousins in an NFL clash in London this weekend in Tottenham stadium, in which we saw the field get moved into what it's going to be. They took this beautiful patch of grass, the pitch that they play soccer on. And they said, hey, grass, we got this cool technology. Get the fuck out of here. Slid that thing up underneath the stadium, said picked it up, moved it out, and then they subbed in, give us the artificial turf for the NFL guys. Unreal. Yeah, a lot of people aren't happy about this particular story happening on this particular
Starting point is 00:02:00 day in Tottenham showcasing the stadium of the future, the stadium that NFL stadiums should be able to have. I understand you want to have concerts and have other events on your field, but I believe the stats are pretty alarming in how often players get hurt on artificial turf versus grass. You hear old guys talk. Yesterday, Aaron Rodgers said they'd rather go practice in fucking freezing cold weather than on the turf inside.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Then we heard A.Q. Shipley talk about down in Tampa it would be 110 degrees outside and they'd rather practice out in a sauna on the turf inside then we heard aq shipley talk about down in tampa it'd be 110 degrees outside and they'd rather practice out in the sauna on the grass than on the artificial turf and then the tottenham video hits and it's like this beautiful display of what a stadium could be with different surfaces already in there and just like my friend stank that grew that stank behind a false wall with the the fucking u UV rays and the ability to have science take care of things and be able to grow without it having to have an absolute amount of, a massive amount of room or whatever.
Starting point is 00:02:51 So I think grass stadiums could be everywhere. I think grass stadiums could literally be in Tottenham this weekend. Instead, it got subbed out for the artificial turf. We'll have to keep an eye on that. Let's hope that the NFL does become a place one day with all grass fields so that players can play their best football all year and raise more money for the artificial turf. We'll have to keep an eye on that. Let's hope that the NFL does become a place one day with all grass fields so that players can play their best football all year and raise more money for the NFL, right?
Starting point is 00:03:10 That's right. That's right. More money. Profitable. More money for the NFL. Andrew Whitworth said he would have played until he was 50 if he was able to play on grass fields his entire career. Whitworth, pretty good moneymaker for the NFL.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Yeah, not bad. If you want to keep that guy around, he would be able to play for another fucking 20 years, maybe. That's right. But instead, he's retired. He's out. Good luck selling more jerseys for Whitworth, man. Not going to happen. No money, NFL. We're talking about making money, those grass fields. That's what we're talking about, the bottom line, getting
Starting point is 00:03:35 raised significantly with those grass fields. We're talking about keeping the stars on the field longer, which is what moves the needle, what moves the dollars, and what moves you into a network television deal that's worth a hundred-some billion dollars with numerous places. That's what we're talking about with the grass fields. That's all we're asking for, Toxic Table, at Boston Corner, at Ty Schmidt.
Starting point is 00:03:53 That's not too much, is it? No, I mean, apparently these owners don't like money. What? That's kind of what I'm hearing, because you put all grass fields in, it sounds like you're just going to be making more money, because these guys are going to be playing longer, they're going to be playing faster, They're going to be playing faster. They're going to be playing better. You're going to elongate the careers of all your top superstars.
Starting point is 00:04:11 You don't have to worry about, hey, our quarterback, who we just gave $500 million to, he's only going to play until he's 32 because he's torn his ACL 15 times on the turf. Have a standard for the grass. It has to be this long. You can only use Kentucky blue or crab or whatever the hell the other stuff is. Have a specific
Starting point is 00:04:30 Bermuda. Have a specific standard for it so it's all just one field everywhere. Now we've got the Ferris game now too. That's right. We're playing fair football. So in the sports gambling era, which you guys are going to make a pretty good amount of money off of, you're going to have the Ferris game of all time because everybody's playing on the same
Starting point is 00:04:46 surface. It's the healthiest surface. You've got players playing a long time. This is good business. Yeah, it's simple. It doesn't seem that complicated. When was the turn from, hey, we can't play on grass anymore and we need to have turf? Was it within the last 20 years?
Starting point is 00:04:59 And what was the reason for it? Easier to maintain. Easier to maintain. Cheaper to maintain. Easier to maintain. And when the rubber was Cheaper to maintain. Easier to maintain. And when the rubber was added into it, remember, it was talked about as if it's just as soft as a regular field. And it might be to, like, somebody that's doing a demonstration with, like, one of those axes that you have at, like, a carnival that you hit it and it tells you how hard you're hitting it. That is basically what they were doing.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Well, the rubber pellets that we put at the bottom actually make it feel softer than actual earth. Bouncy. It's like, well, the interesting thing about that, maybe at the surface, but whenever people are actually running, they're getting past just the rubber pellets there. Right underneath of it is goddamn cement as opposed to dirt and gravel, whatever the rest of actual earth is. I think we can meet in the middle. We've learned more about science. We have more data and more analytics. Let's go grass everywhere. Joining us now is a man who I would assume would still be playing. That's right. It would have been even better, in the middle. We've learned more about science. We have more data and more analytics. Let's go grass everywhere.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Joining us now is a man who I would assume would still be playing. That's right. It would have been even better, by the way, if there was grass fields out there. Nine-year NFL vet, hosted a man-to-man podcast, and also everything DB right here every single Wednesday on the Pat McAfee Show, Darius Butler. Hey, everybody. Glad to be back. We definitely got to make that shift. And those rubber pellets, they're getting your eye, too.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Oh, dude. Who are you telling? Bro, I'm holding. Oh, I didn't think of that. I'm holding just like this right here. And I can feel that Vinny's going to miss a kick before I can even see it. Because if you duff at all or hit behind the ball, which happens to happen, people who have ever golfed do it.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Detroit last year. Yeah, and then the ball's going left. Vinny didn't do it, but somebody did. That shit is just directly. I mean, it feels like it has a, they have eyes for like the ear hole and the front in there. Those things fly around, fly around. I can understand that the turf field with the pellets on it is better than just like some muddy pit.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Yes. But are we not at the point now with the amount of money that's being made that we could do what Tottenham does and just maintain that grass? If you want to have concerts, I understand that. You want to use the venue to make more money for the city or for yourself. now with the amount of money that's being made, that we could do what Tottenham does and just maintain that grass. And if you want to have concerts, I understand that. You want to use the venue to make more money for the city or for yourself. However, the deal is structured and made, whoever did it. But why isn't it?
Starting point is 00:06:56 What do you think it is, Darius? Do you think it's just the money and the investment? Do you think it's going to cost too much money? Is that what the NFL is thinking? I got no clue, honestly. Hopefully, if the numbers keep coming out, we make a real good decision for the players as far as health-wise. But honestly, playing on Davos
Starting point is 00:07:10 advocate a little bit. As a younger player, I didn't mind that turf. You feel it a little faster. It's kind of like when you step on some courts and you feel like that little extra, little bounce, a little give. So we got that as well on that turf. But as you get older, and like the guy said, practicing on it um even more so with that grass you um you know it's way easier
Starting point is 00:07:30 in your body and your joints you know what i enjoy though is let's get the grass to have a little bit of a little bounce because you can build you know the way they i mean i see a wrestling ring put together yeah multiple and you can got multiple you can kind, you can see the ones that have a little bit more give and don't give and everything like that from the side. How come they can't just have one of those ones that have a little bit of give? Yeah, what do we say? A little grass? It's like best of both worlds almost.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Well, and I thought Tom and him was, you know, when I looked up earlier, I was like, this probably costs $15 billion. That is why the NFL won't do it. It looks like it costs that. It does. And then you see what the number is, and it's a billion dollars. Only one. And let's remember how much SoFi was.
Starting point is 00:08:08 It was eight. That's a lot. It is a ton of money, but we're looking at the stadiums. Imagine if it was nine. That would have been five billion overbought. Yeah, like look at what the stadiums in the NFL are being built for. It's 5X what, you know, Taunton. Oh, that whole stadium was a billion.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Yes. Not just the whole entire stadium. We need to know the technology. Right, stadium. We need to know the technology. Right, yeah. We need to know the technology. Now, if they were to implement this into the modern stadiums, they would probably have to dig, right? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Oh, yeah. They'd have to get a little bit deeper. Deep found it. But the sophistication level of this, I think it's super high level. And I'm happy that the soccer folks did it because, obviously, the pitch in soccer is very important because the role of the ball. You can't have a goalie out there, you know, ball bouncing over his foot right here in the middle of London.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Exactly. Because then the hooligans are going to go bananas and then that's going to cost you more money. Can't have that type of shit happen. Have to have good grass. But do you think the NFL would be able to do it? Did not know that was going to be the story that we lead off with, but hard not to get into it. Another big news, Zach Wilson's back. Whoa, Zach.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Guess who's back? Back again Zach Wilson's back. Oh, my God. Guess who's back? Back again. Zach is back. Okay. It's a good run, footsteps. He did. We thought he was going to be the starter for the rest of the year. Zach Wilson's going to have to just sit back and watch Joe Flacco do what Mike White did last year.
Starting point is 00:09:20 And then Joe Flacco loses the game. And everybody's like, all right, is that young Mormon kid who's banging moms back? And it sounds like he is. It was one tweet that said, actually, Zach Wilson is back. And we were like fucking pumped up for it. What does this mean for the Jets? Nothing. They still stink.
Starting point is 00:09:36 They're in the AFC East. It's going to be tough, but maybe they get a little bit better. I don't know. Part of me was thinking, Flacco, yeah, sorry, he's done for the rest of the season. But the rest of the NFL, is there even reason to play any more games if you're not on the Jets? Zach Wilson's back. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Jets are going to turn this thing around, probably win the division, you know, win the Super Bowl. I mean, that's what we've come to expect from Zach Wilson. Special talent, you know, everyone remembers his pro day and that cross-body throw from, you know, the outside hash. You know, I mean, the Packers have a huge game against the Patriots. It doesn't matter. It doesn't even matter.
Starting point is 00:10:11 It doesn't even matter. It's like, why are we playing? Zach Wilson's back. Zach Wilson's back. It is a little upsetting. It does rob us of one more matchup of Footstep Flacco versus the Pittsburgh Steelers. Just that vintage rivalry, you know, old cool Joe coming into Pittsburgh slinging the rock. Now, we don't know what Minka's doing.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Minka entered the concussion protocol yesterday. Game on Thursday. Entered the concussion protocol on Tuesday. Happens like that sometimes. What does that mean? We were talking to AJ and AQ about it a little bit yesterday, and I talked about a teammate of mine, and I didn't say his name, but he told me that he would remember
Starting point is 00:10:45 turning his alarm clock off on, like, Thursday. Like, he would remember, like, basic things that he would do by Thursday normally, and when he didn't on Thursday, he decided to talk to the doctor, like, you had a concussion, and how long have you not remembered, like, doing menial tasks on Monday, Tuesdays, Wednesdays? He's like, every game. So I was like, okay, so this guy's brain is mush probably coming up.
Starting point is 00:11:06 That's not good. Let's get some of those brain pills. Why would it be a couple days later? Because of something like that or just because you think you had got over it already and you haven't? Is that what you think? Sometimes you go in there, you have a game, get your bell rung, and then you kind of come back to it and you feel good,
Starting point is 00:11:20 and then maybe next day not so good. You still give it time because you don't want to turn yourself into that protocol. You want to just keep getting better, hopefully. But if it doesn't, if it keeps getting worse, maybe not sleeping, maybe you're sensitive to light or sounds, and it keeps getting worse, you make that call and you make that decision. So good on him for making that call, but it's a brain injury, and just like any other injury, it's unique to every player situation. So, um, you know, hopefully he's good.
Starting point is 00:11:46 I like the fact that Minka though, like did not want to end the game. Right. No. And we think it was the first point. By the way, don't love it. When I say I like it, like, don't love it. Okay. If he's doing serious trauma to himself and his future and his family and everything, like obviously don't love that. But the fact that he probably didn't even know he had a concussion, just thought it was a normal thing. We think this was the play.
Starting point is 00:12:11 First play, right knee from Chubb, right to the side of his head. A.J. texted me immediately upon this play happening and goes, let's hope Minka's okay. Now, Minka didn't go out, right? You see Minka actually look. Minka had a hell of a game the rest of the game, too. Looked fine. But looked fine, played the rest of the way, didn't miss a single snap.
Starting point is 00:12:29 But AJ seen it immediately and texted me and was like, hey, that looked bad. Now we're on a Tuesday, he's doing it. So I think Minka was probably fighting it for a long time or had those feelings before. And then they go away, and now he turns himself in. We hope he's okay. Will he be playing or will he not be playing? If he's playing, I know Zach Wilson's back, but. Yeah. Well. Minka he's okay. Will he be playing or will he not be playing? If he's playing,
Starting point is 00:12:46 I know Zach Wilson's back, but... Make us play. He went in on Tuesday. I doubt he plays. Is it possible he was in it for a couple days and it was just announced that he was in the protocol? They would announce immediately upon him going in, I think. Because if he goes in
Starting point is 00:13:02 immediately after the game... Because Tomlin said he was assessed after the Browns game, but that could mean days after, hours after. Probably right after in the locker room. You know, probably talked to some doctors and maybe went through that impact test, whatever testing they do now. And he probably cleared it.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Probably was good. And then, like you said, because those symptoms can pick up at any point. A day later, two days later, three days later. Did you have any concussions? Yeah. Oh, yeah. it probably was good and then like you said once those symptoms can pick up at any point um a day later two days later did you have any concussions yeah oh yeah you miss any games no dude this fucking guy uh stinger man it was a stinger fucking dead on the field blacked out clearly dead on the field i mean clearly dead on the field i think we're on the plane ride home after i saw you do it the first time i don't know how many times you did it the first time you did it.
Starting point is 00:13:49 And I said, you were dead on the field today. And I was standing right on the sideline when he came over, and he was saying stinger the entire time. And they were like, are you sure? He was like, yeah, it's just a stinger or whatever. And I think you duped the guy that was asking the question. I think you duped the guy. He's back in there.
Starting point is 00:14:09 This fucking guy's back in there two plays later. i'm like yeah dude was definitely just like i'm looking at the doctor i'm like you know it's bad am i a bad teammate like i don't know if i'm a bad team and then ewol even on the plane was like yeah hey man like i think he even said like you're putting me in a bad position because i'm like being a bad friend on most of you but like that is what a lot of people are doing though like to to i, and this is going to go to a bigger conversation, but people judge like NFL doctors and stuff like that. You know, the difference between the NFL doctors and these doctors that aren't in the NFL, they're judging the NFL doctors. When people go to doctors that aren't in the NFL, they're going to tell you, I have a problem. Hey, I have, for some reason, this arm is just not working or whatever. So then the doctor goes, thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:14:46 They leave. They Google what the fuck that means. And then they go back into their research. They come back with a full thing. Hey, let's try this. In the NFL, I'm most professional. And I'm not saying this is every single situation. But in a lot of situations, guys are purposely not telling people what stuff is.
Starting point is 00:15:01 That's because there's only a certain amount of jobs that you can do it. There's only a certain amount of lifespan that you have in your profession. There's only a certain amount of time of opportunity that you can realize like, I'm getting a chance to play right now and Darius, I don't know how many but I saw one personally. I'm happy you talked about it. That was my only NFL blackout.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Okay. Oh, there we go. It was scary as fuck though. I mean, he was clearly on Jumbotron and in life. I mean, you know how they say, like, delay a game, they have to look at the clock and then look at the ball being snapped? Right. So I was watching Jumbotron, dead, look on field, still dead, and then get up and then, oh.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Derek Carr was giving our sideline, come on, come get this guy. Bounced up. But it was similar to chubbs actually caught a knee to the head by um forget the running back number 30 with the raiders but um and then went back out and finished the half we had a two minute drive but um like you said ewald eric walden our former teammate and i was uh and something that happens when you get concussed you can get kind of like more irritable and like i was kind of like a cool head on the field but like i was just like just yelling just out of character like so we get to halftime and i just
Starting point is 00:16:09 kind of have a towel over my head you know usually i'm kind of uh in front doing the halftime adjustments and talking and shit but i'm kind of to myself hammering up and ewahl actually went and told the doctors like hey like d-buzz fucked up he's not right so then they put me in there and up pulling me out the game so shout out to ew, you know, my dumb ass at that point, when you locked in, you know, it's game time. You're trying to be out there for your guys, be out there for yourself. Like you said, you don't know how many opportunities, how many plays. And it's a brain.
Starting point is 00:16:35 And it's better that it's more awareness on it now. But for us, you can't see it. If I can't see it, if I can walk, I can run, I can play, I'm getting out there playing. That's just kind of how a lot of us are wired. Not the best thing, not the right thing for your long-term health um but you know you out there in the middle of it you know you do what you do well it's like uh you know it's like live by sort of the sort you need guys like that those are the guys you
Starting point is 00:16:58 want on your team for sure of course the guys are like yeah yeah i got a little bruise but i'm playing through it yeah my knee is swollen but I'm playing through it. Yeah, my knee is swollen, but I'm playing through it. Like, those are the guys you want on your team. I think every fan would say that. Absolutely. Those are the dogs that we want on our team. But that same mindset could potentially fucking jeopardize a lot. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:17:15 It's an interesting dynamic that I think the NFL has to balance, and obviously they haven't done a perfect job with it. But I don't think it's as easy as, like, brain studies outside the NFL or brain. Like, I don't think it's as easy as brain studies outside the NFL or brain. I don't think it's two very different situations, but I think the NFL is trying its absolute best in there. It's tough, man. Back to Ewald. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:34 This is a dude that has head-butted somebody else with no helmet on. Beast. Oh, yeah. Ryan Cushing. He's a dog. Most hard-nosed player probably on our team at that point. Dog. One of my favorite Packers of all time.
Starting point is 00:17:45 How about this? One of my favorite Colers of all time. How about this? One of my favorite Colts of all time. Yeah. Just as a human. That was his role every Sunday. Hey, I'm setting this motherfucker to the edge. Yes. Like, he was our Sam Backer.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Like, he was setting the edge. So, literally, that's just, like, contact every snap. But, and that's the thing. Even with the injuries, the body, the head, or whatever, if you ask most guys, and that's why it's such a fine line to tread, because you ask most guys, they'll fucking do it again a thousand times over. Because there's nothing like that, you know, being out there and playing. Now, would you go out and play with certain injuries?
Starting point is 00:18:18 Maybe not, but you look back on a lot of your careers, a lot of these guys' careers, and say, man, I'll go out there and do it again, same way. You need Ewals on the team. Dogs. Not just dogs, but also. Good people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Yeah. Imagine how Darius feels about me or the rest of defense feels about me if I go to the trainers. I'm like, hey, I think Darius is fucking out. Right. Like, I can't do that. Who told the trainers? The punter, Pat.
Starting point is 00:18:42 The pat did. Fuck that guy. What does that guy know? Ewol was one of our guys. He was one of our leaders. Respected by everybody in there. So him going and being like, hey, this dude cannot put him back out there. I think that is awesome.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Speaks volumes. Once again, Ewol is the fucking man. Should get more respect. Should get more credit. But his ass is out in the middle of the fucking country right now, would never do media, and if he did, the media people would lose their fucking mind. He is
Starting point is 00:19:11 awesome. He needs his own podcast at some point. With concussions, is it the same thing where, you know, like, guys get fucked up but they have so much adrenaline, you can kind of just play through that? Do you think there's any piece of that with concussions, too, where like, you just have so much adrenaline that you almost don't even know and then after the game
Starting point is 00:19:28 all the symptoms just kind of get you. It's different. Everyone is different. So you saw two of which they said it's a back. I think it was a fucking concussion but it came back. So we do too. Watching it we all thought it was a concussion. Then me and AJ had like a 50 minute conversation.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Do you know what that Dolphins organization, so already being sued, already being investigated, already being penalized, what they would have had to do, right, to get around this protocol with the franchise quarterback, with McDaniels first? Like, I think it's going to be. They won early. Outside party.
Starting point is 00:20:00 I mean, they came out with the back and him never, did he even get evaluated for a concussion at all? They said he might be outside the third party evaluation. Oh, so he, okay. He did. They said he did, but he was getting pissed off because they kept asking about his head and he was like, my back for some reason is doing something.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Hey, and it could fucking be his back. I'm just, this is my opinion. No, we all think the same thing. Like, it looks like a fucking concussion. Right. But like for what would have had to happen to get him back on the field like that's an aggressive move by the dolphins to do you know what i mean so it's like it's hard to and they're investigating it hopefully we'll get some information out of that whole thing but he came back and played good ball though like
Starting point is 00:20:37 we'll talk we'll show one of the plays later but he came back and played good ball like you said minka had a good game i had a concussion one time I was in a great game third year in the league I was playing with the Panthers were playing the Falcons back of my head knee Tony Gonzalez and then like the second the last two quarters just terrible just I was just out of it like I'm on the sideline guys are talking to me I'm just kind of blank and like but I'm still playing I'm still making the calls but I'm just kind of like a step slow and just got killed that second half. And my teammates are like, bro, what the fuck going on? Because I didn't really tell anybody what happened.
Starting point is 00:21:09 You know, you're playing. Of course. So it is the adrenaline that keeps you going. But you're definitely in the off. So when I was watching Tua, like, shit, he's sharp. He's still making reads, making throws. Didn't have a ton of plays, obviously. But it's really different.
Starting point is 00:21:20 How about that two-minute drill against Oakland at the time, I believe? What about it? How were you in that? Were you off there? Did you play well? Yeah, it wasn't myself. We got out of it. I don't think they scored, but just... Because I wonder if for you, you're saying that your concussions were the same reaction with the way
Starting point is 00:21:38 you played on the field? Because think about that. If one person has multiple different reactions to what a concussion is, let alone what other people say. How do we know what the fuck it is? You don't. We can't, right? We probably can't. Well, hopefully we'll learn more.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Hopefully we'll learn more. Hey, that's great to hear. Thank you for telling us that. Now, happy you didn't die either. Yeah, definitely. And now it goes into, like, the player safety even with the quarterbacks. Like Brady talked about it last year, how, you know, defensive rules have changed so much because of concussions. He said it's on quarterbacks more so to put
Starting point is 00:22:07 guys in spots where they're not throwing hospital passes and wide receivers and tight ends are getting taken out. Yeah, leading people into those big shots back in the day. They've done a great job of cleaning up. Those defenseless players, which I hated at the beginning, how you're defenseless, you're running up or across the middle up the game. Those defenseless players, which I hated at the beginning. How you defenseless, you're running up or across the middle of the field. We grew up watching, and that's what separated certain receivers and tight ends from others.
Starting point is 00:22:32 I definitely hated it, but watching the game now and just seeing it, it definitely makes it a safer game. You do hate for the knee shots, though, the low shots. It's tough to play as a defender, damn near impossible at times, but I do like what they've done. I'm sure their concussion numbers, especially those guardians. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Hell yeah. It saved the day. The generation, it was a generation. It took a generation because I think the guys that were learning in high school to hit, hey, strike zone, shoulder pad, I think they grew up and all their big hits were basically taught with the same penalty so i think it took like a good seven eight years for it to really become but the vision i think of the rules being changed is working out oh yeah these younger guys seem to still be able
Starting point is 00:23:17 to make bigger hits naturally where guys back in the day benefited got more money. Their team won. Won awards. Won awards. Jacked up. They were highlights on commercials. Highlighted, promoted, more popular than ever. They were taught to lead with the middle of their fucking forehead right through the face of somebody.
Starting point is 00:23:37 That's going to be tough if your entire life you were taught that, just to change it. We saw James Harrison, obviously, struggle with it in a big way. Clay Matthews. Clay Matthews. Clay Matthews with the sacking of the quarterback. A.J., I assume it was not easy for him to fucking change it because he's like, this isn't a – it's a weapon. Yeah, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:23:54 Helmet is classified as a weapon, yeah, because you fucking use it. Like that's how A.J. was taught to play football. He's the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers. So let's assume that he and James Harrison aren't the only ones that is. But then the guys that grew up like your big. Yeah, Darius Leonard is like straight with the arms every single time, basically. These younger safeties, it feels like they have a better read. Now you're going to see, what is that called whenever they adjust their,
Starting point is 00:24:18 when the water's. Strike zone? No, no, it's called like, they describe it as something on TV every time the commentators talk about it. When somebody's head goes from here to like here. Yeah. And then it's like within a bang, bang. Changing levels.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Yeah, they use it as something. There's something very. See, that's impossible to avoid. That's, yeah. Yeah, that's impossible to avoid. So I think like sometimes those still happen because those guys, there's really nothing you can do. But it feels like a majority of the guys these days now are like actually. And these three guys a lot of times just pull up and just like not like just completely.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Because, I mean, that's in the league is you're not getting ejected like college, but you get in the letter. You know, I hit that hit on Thielen. I got a letter on Wednesday, 24K. So that next time you have a similar situation for some guys, other guys may be like, you know, fuck it. But for me, like, I understand what you're saying. I put a tweet out that was like 30K, you know? And then I had another one lined up.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Twitter finger, eh? No, I fucking hit set, yeah. Run it back, pal. Do it again,
Starting point is 00:25:16 I dare you. It's just like the intent, like especially with the level change. It's right in the full game check, dude. You should have heard that conversation. I mean, obviously that's classic for a tweet,
Starting point is 00:25:24 dude. All right. Bye, bro. It's not real life, dude. You should have heard that conversation. I mean, obviously, that's classic. For a tweet, dude. All right. Die, bro. It's not real life, dude. Anyways, what were you going to say? Threaten. It was threaten, yeah. It was fun.
Starting point is 00:25:32 It was a good conversation. A few words. Old frog, equipment manager, was standing right next to me when it was all going down. We walk away. He goes, you are a madman. You are a madman.
Starting point is 00:25:44 I'm like, I don't know, man. When you get fined like $40,000 by the Indianapolis Colts for a definite public intoxication, alleged swim, and then you get fined $180 by the city, you're kind of... The way you feel about money
Starting point is 00:25:59 all of a sudden is just like, oh, I worked my whole life to get here, and it's just like, they just take it. They crush you with it. That was for the... in the training room, the WWE one. All of a sudden, it's just like, oh, I worked my whole life to get here. And it's just like, they just take it. They crush you with it. It's like, ah, fuck it all then. That was for the, in the training room, the WWE one? Yeah, the football one. Yeah. Worth it.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Definitely. Yeah, for sure. I mean, for the whole story of it all. Now, I mean, I'm fucking under the impression. You still live. Sanctioned matches at WrestleMania. What? This thing happened.
Starting point is 00:26:21 Yeah, exactly. You know what I mean? Shout out to the Colts for that, by the way. Shout out. Got me that as a gift. That was the Colts, huh? Shortly after WrestleMania, I think so, yeah. I wonder how much money that cost me
Starting point is 00:26:32 and the other people in the city. All right. Come on. I didn't realize I was Colts. Okay, there's some more news around the NFL. Let's go to Cleveland. Miles Garrett was involved in a non-life-threatening accident, one car, single car accident the other day on Monday. It kind of came out of nowhere,
Starting point is 00:26:51 scared us all to death. Now, whenever they said non-life-threatening, I think that put some people's minds at ease about it. For everybody else, anytime something's described as non-life threatening, you assume that there's going to be other injuries that are pretty serious. So thankful he's alive, but middle of football season, will he be able to play? Now we're learning more information. Mary Kay Cabot is reporting that the Browns' Miles Garrett suffered a sprained shoulder, strained biceps, and cut his hand when he flipped his Porsche. No concussions, not ruled out for the Falcons game. Mary's told that he will try to play. Now, we also have body cam footage from an officer or firefighter
Starting point is 00:27:30 that arrived at the scene. This was posted on Cleveland.com's YouTube. And Miles Garrett is in much better condition than we could have fathomed a 6'4", 275-pound Defensive Player of the Year favorite in a Porsche. Remember how much room is in a Porsche? If you've never been in a Porsche, think about how much room is in a fucking Kia. It is the same exact type of thing. Getting in and out of this Porsche for miles Garrett has to be damn near impossible every time he drives it. He has to be laying down completely. This thing allegedly
Starting point is 00:28:03 flipped numerous times. They said it was a wet road. Looks rather dry here on this particular video. Was avoiding an animal. He obviously has a torn up t-shirt. He looks to be very coherent. He's sitting straight down. And while you're watching the beginning of the video, you think to yourself, can Miles Garrett stand up? Because his legs have to be almost underneath the goddamn hood of the car in a Porsche with how tall he is.
Starting point is 00:28:26 And towards the end of this video, he gets up, walks away. So he seems like he's in much better condition than we could have fathomed. That's great to hear. We haven't gotten a complete update on the passenger who was in the car with Miles Garrett. We'll keep an eye on the news cycle for that. But goddamn, you hear Miles Garrett's in a Porsche and the car rolls over a bunch of times, your immediate thought is,
Starting point is 00:28:48 and I think we can, I might be able to, let's get through the... Shout out Sharon Township. There he is. Yeah. So he's a little bit rattled probably, car just flipped over a bunch of times. Holy shit, I'm alive.
Starting point is 00:29:04 That's crazy. Hand sliced and then he just walks. That's fucking awesome to see. Yeah, yeah, great to see. And she was moving her legs too, which is also good to see. Good to see, yeah. Scary situation. And, you know, puts life in perspective real quick when something like this happens.
Starting point is 00:29:17 This was just going home from work, maybe stopped somewhere, maybe going somewhere. Middle of the day, middle of the season, worried about nothing but football probably in life and a car roll over, an animal can get in your way and you can almost fucking die. So remember that. I assume Miles Garrett will have that perspective on a lot of things because there's probably moments where he was still inside of that car when it was flipping upside down, where he was thinking, oh, I'm going to fucking die right here. This is it. So let's remember that whenever we see somebody else go through it, we're happy he's okay. But I think your first reaction was the same as mine miles garrett's a big body in a porsche he had to get fucked up seems like he's okay that's wild to me he looks great obviously he's a
Starting point is 00:29:53 he's a monster so that's the first thing i was thinking big you know big man little car but he had a pastor she looks you know good too so obviously those porsche got some good uh good airbags and shit in there so did you see, do we have the photo of the car? Because before we saw the video of Miles walking, we only saw a picture of the car. In the windows, there's no room. No, not at all. Yeah, there's no room. It's just airbags everywhere and a seat is jammed in there.
Starting point is 00:30:19 That thing's crumbled. And the windows are like this big. And, you know, these cars are fucking they're because they're supposed to be performance you know like hey this is built for performance not necessarily for as much comfort even though some cars try to do both rarely is the case successfully which is why tesla fucking just yeah killed everybody right slaughter tesla just killed everybody hey our car is faster than your car uh it runs by itself it's easier to maintain there's no gas you plug it in at home uh here's the patent for it if
Starting point is 00:30:50 you want to create your own yeah okay go ahead unbelievable that that happened i'm a big car fan never had a porsche but happy to hear miles garrett's okay and let's remember life you know hey cam newton remember what happened to him he missed some time he like i think he got a concussion broke his arm. Yeah, was that his shoulder? Shoulder maybe, yeah. He was in a bad SUV or something. Yeah, he was in a truck. Souped up, right?
Starting point is 00:31:11 It was lifted, I think. Yeah, yep. But I think his car almost fell off like an overpass or something. Like, it was really scary. I'm always interested about this stuff, too, because, you know, like the common term is, you know, these guys, every NFL game, how many car crashes you get into.'s trying to play on sunday like i wonder how sore he's going to be going yeah once play against falcons right that was in mary k's uh report here's cam newton's
Starting point is 00:31:36 truck on an overpass completely topped wild so like where's he sitting you know yeah that's what i always think like modern marvel where was he sitting that his know? Yeah, that's what I always think like modern Marvel. Where was he sitting that his head? How is he just okay? Seriously? I almost got a car accident one time My car started spinning on 70 because of snow I'm going like 55 60 miles an hour Got a change lane, but there was a little bit of slush in the middle one caught one of the tires I started spinning on the road. Geez Wow while I'm spinning Oh Dead good run. Oh, I'm dying. Yeah. Car ends up just stopping on the side
Starting point is 00:32:08 facing forward. It was almost like a movie. And I just sat there and my hands just started like shaking. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. I was fucking... I'm back. Oh, my God. Yeah, wow. People are passing me like, are you okay? I think so. I think. Yeah, maybe. Hit the gas. I'm gonna get
Starting point is 00:32:23 in the right lane. Yeah. Go 25 miles an hour. This six-hour drive is all of a sudden maybe 10 to 12. Isn't it funny, too, after something like that happens, you lower the music down? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You're not going to help anything out. Music going down.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Concentrate. Study these hands. Hearing your heartbeat for the rest of the drive. I couldn't even imagine what was going through Miles Garrett's head right there. Yeah. Scary shit scary shit man who knows how fast he was going people would dive into it he has a porsche it doesn't appear as if there's gonna be a lot of people on the road he almost got a terrible terrible terrible story yeah told seriously hopefully it doesn't affect if he couldn't get up there like we'd all'd all be like, yeah, that makes sense with the
Starting point is 00:33:07 rollover. You know, I was watching that body cam. I'm like, he's sitting down, and his legs are just perfectly straight. I'm like, all right, can he fucking move his goddamn legs right now? Like, are we doing that? And then when he stood up and walked away, it's like, all right. Like, I was watching a body cam footage. Like, get up, Miles.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Yeah. Get up, because we hadn't heard anything. And then he did. It was like, fucking all right. I was watching a body cam footage like, get up, Miles. Yeah. Get up because we hadn't heard anything. And then he did. It was like, all right, good news. Could have came, could have went. Who knows? 18 NFL games have been decided by three or fewer points. Okay, this is a big deal.
Starting point is 00:33:35 This season is having a good one. This season is having a good run right now. Sunday football, not as electrifying as I think everybody could have imagined. Great punting, though. Hey. could have imagined. Great punting, though. Hey, great punting. Corliss Waitman actually got AFC Special Teams Player of the Week with his performance in Denver. Shout out to Corliss. I actually had a chance to chat with him a little bit on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Dude's the best. He murders footballs. Absolutely murders footballs. I'm very happy for him to be in Denver. But the NFL's parody is very real. It feels like guys don't know if their teams are good or not. It feels like people are buying into the gimmick almost, that they're an NFL guy and their team's supposed to be good.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Because life's a lot better when you compose than you're a winning team as opposed to a losing team. I wonder if there's a little bit more accountability nowadays because it seems like more eyes are on everybody. Is that why some teams aren't as bad as you would think they are? Is that why you think teams are's a little bit more accountability nowadays because it seems like more eyes are on everybody. Is that why some teams aren't as bad as you would think they are? Is that why you think teams are getting a little bit better, or am I completely off base with that? It's so early.
Starting point is 00:34:32 It's so early to make judgments, really. Teams don't even know who they are right now, really, because you come into the season with a game plan, with a plan for personnel. Guys get hurt. Wilson gets back in that lineup. So everybody's going through different shit. Russell Wilson, shit. Well, he figured it out in Denver.
Starting point is 00:34:48 So there's so many moving parts right now. But none of it fucking matters because the Miami Dolphins are at the top of every private ranking right now. Undefeated. I think the Eagles are at the top of a couple, too. That's my other team. Both of your teams have the Chargers.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Yeah, what happened with your Chargers? Injuries. Injuries, man. It's tough. No excuses. No explanations. Yeah, they're fucked. No, if Herbert's still playing, we got a chance.
Starting point is 00:35:12 What about their left tackle? They have some of the best pass rushers in that division. Bosa's out right now. Everybody. Keenan. J.C. Jackson. J.C. still banking. Keenan's coming back.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Okay. We got to get Echo to do his podcast yet. We need to. He unfollowed us. He's on Twitch. He unfollowed me. We had to cover your Twitch, too. What are you fucking on?
Starting point is 00:35:32 Yeah, it's on our phone. We're going to act like it didn't exist. It's literally on the internet. You're talking about everybody on your team's health. What are we supposed to do? It was a breakdown. Sorry about it. Sorry about it.
Starting point is 00:35:40 I don't want to change topics. Kind of out of nowhere, D-Butt mentioned Russell Wilson. I'd be remiss if I didn't say. And we are not getting paid. This is not an endorsement or anything. Russell Wilson has this dorsal fin, arobi football. I know it's early. It's only, what, September, almost October.
Starting point is 00:36:02 If you're looking for a gift for your kid your spouse anyone for christmas go buy one of these things the dorsal fin football the russell wilson dorsal fin arobi football i don't know if you can see this he trains with this thing going into the the season you can actually shift the dorsal fin if you're left-handed or right-handed you could switch these fins around pat and i were chucking this thing around before the show this thing is fucking awesome unbelievable i yeah i mean not only can it says you can throw it up to 100 yards we don't have the full capabilities to test that in here. But I swear to God, as soon as the show ends, I'm going out into the field over here,
Starting point is 00:36:49 and I'm going to throw until my arm falls off. I love this thing. If you have young kids, be careful. This is very hard plastic. So if you don't throw a good spiral and you catch it a little weird, your kids are going to break their fingers probably. But, yeah, you can see this. Russ can huck
Starting point is 00:37:05 this thing he's playing with his buddy here again we are not being paid to talk about this but they sent it to the office i didn't think they'd ever make a better vortex football russell wilson found out how so is that better than the nerf we grew up with oh yeah oh yeah there he is oh yeah come on it whistles too that is not better than the Mike Vick Nerf ball. That is not better. What's going on here? It pains me to say it. What's going on here?
Starting point is 00:37:32 It really does. Foxy, have you fucking hucked this thing around yet? I haven't. I haven't even seen it been hucked around yet. Get your mitts on this thing, okay? The Russell Wilson Sonic Finn Dorsal Finn Arobi football. I think it retails for $16.99. Very reasonably priced.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Got a signature on there, too. Got a signature. Yeah, and as you can see, it used to be in Seahawks, you know, Seahawk green, blue, or whatever. They got the Broncos colors now. Hell, yeah. Let's ride. This thing's awesome.
Starting point is 00:38:03 How long did we throw that thing earlier, Ty? I don't know what time. We both got in here about eight and threw it until the show started. So four hours, give or take. How many bruises and cuts on the hands? My hands hurt bad. Like they're beating up pretty good.
Starting point is 00:38:18 You're going to need to get some Vaseline, some cocoa butter, definitely some gloves, cutters. But we're talking about, no no i don't think cutters i think you need to wear those gloves construction that kid from montana oh yeah you're right like some gardening gloves yeah some thicker ones to really protect yourself there's a lot of hard plastic on that ball a lot of hard plastic on a brick i don't think it looks like it should be dropped out of a b-52 not being thrown around that's because you throw bombs yeah that's actually
Starting point is 00:38:42 what we said and you have to be careful because if you don't get the right trajectory on it, this thing fucking comes straight down like a mortar. It does. And it will break fingers, wrists, hands. You took Valerie's face off earlier. I did. It takes a little bit to control it, figure out how to kind of throw it.
Starting point is 00:39:01 But once you realize like, oh, I need to fucking shift the dorsal fin because I'm right-handed, you got to figure it out. All right, let's move on. I saw Russell Wilson and PFT have a conversation last night. Oh, yeah. He's got a great new commercial, doesn't he? Well, PFT
Starting point is 00:39:17 was just trying... Was that a commercial? I thought he was just trying to have a convo with Russ. That was a convo. Yeah, it was just a conversation, but I think the Dangerous Sandwich is something that is coming out. It is a sandwich. I think Yeah, it was just a conversation, but I think the dangerous sandwich is something that is coming out. I think in turn it will be a commercial, but I watched a conversation between PFD and Russell Wilson on the internet last night, personally.
Starting point is 00:39:34 Did you see this convo? Absolutely not. It's cold. I would seek it out. Yeah, you may want to check that out. I would seek it out, and also give me the dorsal. Also the dorsal and football. Hey, Broncos, find ways to win some ugly games. Maybe they do figure it out with the dude.
Starting point is 00:39:53 Okay, so maybe Russell wasn't throwing the ball as well early in the season because he was used to practicing with performance-enhancing fins on a fucking ball all offseason. Because it definitely does – when you change those fins – Night and day. It really – watch for the walls if you're throwing inside. Yeah. You change those dorsal fins, all of a sudden a ball that was turning over one way is turning the opposite direction. Hard.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Yeah. Hard. Backdoor slider. Near that room? So we're actually thinking about doing like a $15,000 giveaway if you can get that thing in the vicinity of that backboard. It'll break the backboard. It will shatter the glass if you can get that thing in the vicinity of that backboard. It'll break the backboard. It will shatter the glass if you hit it. It's going to be impossible to hit the backboard with it.
Starting point is 00:40:30 But then follow up. If it does hit it, no more backboards. Yeah, exactly. We're not playing basketball anymore. So I hope it's worth it. Hope you're donating a new backboard if you win that money from us. But the Broncos, we were talking about the Niners looking like they suck and being like, is Jimmy G really? I mean, there's people talking right now on, I think it was RG3 on Monday Night Football
Starting point is 00:40:48 Countdown, was like, you all were telling me that Jimmy G was going to come back and his team was going to be better. I was saying, I don't know if that's the case or not, but you all were telling me that Jimmy was going to make the Niners offense just like what they were in the past and immediately better, much better than Trey Lance. And RG3 said, I wasn't saying that. And I actually thought to myself, like, pretty solid take right there, yeah. Everybody was saying that this offense was going to be much better
Starting point is 00:41:09 with Jimmy G in there. They did appear to be for one week. Then last week against the Broncos, they looked fucking terrible. So that led to even more questions like, is Jimmy G that big of an upgrade all of a sudden on this team? Which we're not saying it. We're just saying this is what the reaction was naturally. And I'm only saying that for conversational purposes in this entire thing.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Was McDaniel the real genius behind the run game? Because even the run game wasn't popping off. So take Jimmy G out of it. Even the run game wasn't working. And then we talked to AQ yesterday, and we're like, are the Broncos' defense just not getting enough credit at all in this entire thing? Like, are the Broncos' defense a fucking team that's going to make a lot of teams look bad? Is that what you're thinking and kind of what they're settling into?
Starting point is 00:41:45 Yeah, their defense is really good up front and on the back end. That secondary, Sertain, Kareem Jackson, Simmons, like they got players back there. So, I mean, great defense, but offensively, ugly. Russ did put a nice drive together at the end of that game to get points, which was the difference in that game. They flipped the switch here. Yeah, they flipped the switch.
Starting point is 00:42:05 He went like some vintage Russ, like the biggest player. He scrambled out to the left under pressure, made a big-time throw. I think to Sutton. But it's ugly right now, but they're finding ways to win, similar to kind of the Chiefs started off ugly, but they were still winning ugly early on. Miami. Yeah, so a win is a win in this league.
Starting point is 00:42:23 We know how it is. You can play great. Lions play great for however long and they end up finding a way to lose that game. So you'd much rather win an ugly one than the Broncos. But defense is really, really good. So I'm interested to see how much they figure it out.
Starting point is 00:42:37 The teams that win those ones are normally the ones that go. Yep. Winners win is like what people say. Winning teams win, dude. Sorry about it. Which is why the Colts win was so surprising. Because the Chiefs are normally a team that win that type of game. But instead, Stone Cold Chris Jones says, That was a direct one.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Disturbing language that has no place in professional football. Now, Matt Ryan heard what he had said, I think. He was one of the only people on the field that heard what he said it was it was being directed at him and he just turned his john deere tractor driving ass right around it was walking right off the field yeah punt team on the field entirely quentin nelson in shot so i don't know if he heard exactly what he was saying but he didn't see like matt ryan react as if it was like a thing and get involved the entire colts were off the field. Punt team was on the field.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Hold the fuck on. Can't have it. First down. Colts were on the draft. Happy the Colts won. Pumped the Colts won. Sure. Got a great photo that we'll all have for a long time with Jelani Woods,
Starting point is 00:43:42 the 6'7 dude, by the way. This guy is a dude. He made a couple catches in traffic. Oh, yeah. Not just the two touches. Like, he is, he might be a, let's throw the ball to him. Yeah. Hey, there's our weapon. We didn't have a weapon.
Starting point is 00:43:53 We got a weapon. We got a weapon now, which is great news. And the photo of that happening, like, right in front of our faces, basically, is awesome. It's majestic. But that whole abusive language to win a game, and we've talked about it now three days because I think I think this is important. This can't become a thing. This could, I think the refs have to realize the moment too. And I know like in that particular case,
Starting point is 00:44:14 that is a subjective ruling, right? Because the ref found it to be disturbing language. So that's a subjective ruling. And I know that we don't always want subjective calls in a game, but I think in that type of moment people have to have a little bit of situations or situational here this cannot be the reason why the fucking third and long going off the field fourth quarter five minutes left it's like are you you're we can't have the refs deciding subjectively the game literally on the balance like like you said that's first quarter you know nine minutes left in the car all right we're gonna set it yeah we're to set the tone for this game.
Starting point is 00:44:45 But, man, I couldn't believe it. Like I said, I was happy because it worked out for the Colts. But that's sick, man, for Mahomes and the Chiefs not to get that ball and, you know, get the chance to run the clock out. That's terrible on officiating right there. It doesn't feel like the Chiefs are that worried about it, though. No, no. Just like the Bills.
Starting point is 00:45:02 Yeah. It's like, yeah, all right. Speaking of the Bills, Josh Allen did his first weekly hit or second weekly hit with Kyle Brandt in Kyle Brandt's basement. And they got a chance to chit-chat about Josh Allen's penis being grabbed in a football game. That's right. You're fiery yourself. At one point during the game, Josh, you're getting up from the pile, and you are pissed. And you get a flag for it.
Starting point is 00:45:26 Peaky blind. What happened? I mean, I think anybody with two eyes can understand what was going on under that pile. Obviously, I let the emotions get to the best of me, but there are some things that I didn't appreciate down there that was going on, and we'll let everybody make their own judgments for that. I apologize to my team for
Starting point is 00:45:48 putting ourselves in a tougher situation. It is what it is and we'll move on. I know I'm going to probably get a fine for that, but I hope they look at some other stuff too. There's a lot of other stuff. The player in question said after the game, quote, with alpha males, that's how it goes.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Do alpha males grab each other's groins on the football field? Not typically. That's – no, it is what it is. He's a competitor, and that's just kind of – he's been known for that going back to college. Yeah. So, you know, I should know that and shouldn't let it get the best of me, but sometimes, like, it just does. You know, sometimes you see red and things like that happen,
Starting point is 00:46:29 but I'm not here to make any claims or throw anybody under the bus. It is what it is. I shouldn't let the emotions get to the best of me. All right, so he acknowledged that his penis did get grabbed on a football field. Yep. He acknowledged that. He told his teammates, hey, very important there. Also, 15-yard penalty is huge.
Starting point is 00:46:46 I do apologize for that. How often does that happen, D? I've been in the bottom of, I think, two piles in my career. One against the Cowboys. Returner fumbled it. I was in the area. Pile starts. I'm outside a pile.
Starting point is 00:47:00 This is before the pull-off pile rule. Know that film's on. Got to have to be in pile. If I'm not in pile, I know that film's on got have to be if i'm not in pile i'm big end up with my hand on ball in pile find ball okay don't have control of ball have hand on ball start giving a little oh my god somebody started yeah there was a full there was a full and i'm like oh all right i'm like, oh, all right. I'm not probably going to get this ball anyway. So I kind of get weaseled out to the end of it. And then another one, I was nowhere near.
Starting point is 00:47:29 I couldn't even feel it. But they say in those piles it gets disgusting and underneath things like that. How true is that? Is that blown out of proportion? And then when you hear things like this, everybody's like, yep, that's what's going on in the pile. That's not happening, right, in every single pile? From my experience, unspeakable things happen in piles. And rightfully so. Okay, so this is a pile. That's not happening, right? In every single pile? From my experience, unspeakable things happen in piles, and rightfully so.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Okay, so this is a normal. The ball is the program, all right? Now, I don't know that specific situation, but if that ball is loose and it's a scrum, you got to come out of that ball by any means. Now, that's not something I would do, but you get up under a pile with Eric Walden in that pile, like,
Starting point is 00:48:03 we're getting that ball, so you got to do what you got to doden in that par, like that ball, we getting that ball. So you got to do what you got to do. Outside of that, though, you don't hit the family jewels. You don't hit the nuts. There's one player in my entire football career that intentionally hit me in my nuts, and we still not good to this day. Harry Douglas.
Starting point is 00:48:20 Oh, wow. I see Harry every week. Yeah, on TV. I didn't know this was. So me and Harry, we need to have. Where's my camera? We need to have a conversation. But Harry, Harry was the only player that that ever did that intentionally.
Starting point is 00:48:33 But I sack tap him. Does that make it even? What's that? If you could sack tap him, would it make it even? What was it? That's kind of what that's kind of what it was like a little slick one. So it was like after play third down, we got to stop and I'm going off the field. And he kind of like hit back of the head. Yeah. So then was like after a play third down, we got to stop, and then we're going off the field, and he kind of like hit, bop.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Back of the head. Yeah, so then I'm, you know, obviously I go, but the refs, you know, they catch the second guy more times than not. You got penalized? No, they just kind of broke it up and let it go. You know, had some judgment call. Good job by the refs. Hey, Big East refs back in the day were pretty good. Oh, yeah, they let us go.
Starting point is 00:49:01 There was like five of them that made it in the NFL. Do you know that? I don't know. I didn't know that. Still? I think there was a couple guys. Oh, yeah. They let us go. There was like five of them that made it in the NFL. Do you know that? I don't know. I didn't know that. Still? I think there was a couple guys still left, yeah. But when we were in the Big East, whichever guy gives me the ball, I should know who that is.
Starting point is 00:49:13 Back judge? Hump? Line judge? Yeah. I don't know who the fuck that is. One of the judges. Should know who it is. I talked to most of the refs anyways.
Starting point is 00:49:22 I enjoyed speaking to the refs. I felt like it was always good. Any sport I played, I always felt like I need to talk to most of the refs anyways. I enjoyed speaking to the refs. I felt like it was always good. Any sport I played, I always felt like I need to have a relationship with the ref. Sure. It wasn't always great, though. I mean, I abused those relationships every once in a while with some things that I said. But the ref would give me the fucking ball every kickoff. And this one guy, he's from Mass.
Starting point is 00:49:37 He was from Massachusetts. Had a Massachusetts accent. Good guy. Good guy. Cool guy. In college, good guy. Something would happen. Let's say I missed a fucking extra point or something. This guy, fucking ball, motivational speech. In college, good guy. Something would happen. Like, let's say I missed a fucking extra point or something.
Starting point is 00:49:45 This guy, fucking ball, motivational speech. Come on, Pat. And then I walk away, and I'm like, you're the only person saying that right now. Like, I really, everybody else, including myself, have told me that I should never do what I just did again and maybe disappear. So I appreciate that. Good interaction. Then, like, second year in the NFL, I think, I'm standing there for a kickoff, like opening kickoff of the game,
Starting point is 00:50:06 and this guy's waiting with a ball in front of me, and I'm, like, grabbing. I didn't even look at him or whatever, and he goes, good to see you. And I, like, look up, and I'm, like, my God. Made to men's league. Man, fucking congratulations. Yeah, I gave him, like, a congratulations before kickoff.
Starting point is 00:50:19 You know, they're not even winding the clock at me, and this fucking ref are giving a fist bump to each other and everything, and he's, like, good luck out there. But I'm like, good to fucking hear you again, man. I appreciate that. It's cool to see those refs just pop up. We used to practice with Big Ten refs out here for preseason. And sometimes you'll see them get bumped up to the big boys league as well.
Starting point is 00:50:37 I would always talk to the back judge. You know, hey, just let us play a little bit. All right, just keep it clean. Hey, I know you're talking about us grabbing. You see what this guy, he's grabbing a little bit. I think we should just let us both. Yeah. Always got to work.
Starting point is 00:50:48 Love it. Got to work. Got to work. Got to work the refs. I love the refs. And shout out to the refs, too. Nobody wants to be a ref. No.
Starting point is 00:50:55 But this year, I would say, they've kind of stayed out of the way for the most part, at least, you know, looking at it from a macro standpoint. Because it was weeks where we were talking about the refs every week, every big game. So outside of that Chiefs one, I'm sure there's a couple other ones, but they've been doing a pretty good job. But still, not as much to Darius' point.
Starting point is 00:51:15 That was happening like every other game. Every single week on Monday, there had to be something addressed. Hey, to Darius' point, congratulations. We appreciate it. Way to go, Stripes. Hey, they were starting to say that these fucking refs stink everywhere. Yeah. They're saying not just in college football
Starting point is 00:51:31 or the NFL, but you're talking about internationally. They got VAR, made the game worse somehow. These refs got blinder in other sports and including in the NFL. And we're wondering, why don't we use more tech? Hey, these guys fucking stink. And all you hear from the ref contingency is, no, no, no. We don't need more tech.
Starting point is 00:51:46 They don't know what it's like. We're in the game. A human error is a part of it. We're a part of the game. And then they want to work, it seems like. This offseason, it feels like the NFL refs, they heard our claims. They heard our chance for their demise. They heard us calling for them to be eliminated from the fucking sport almost.
Starting point is 00:52:02 Robots. They also heard us talk about, yeah, robots and technology. And maybe even microchips in the balls. We don't even need these fucking chain operators. The chains have made it to the streaming era of football. Fucking underdog story of all time. That the chains are still being used on Amazon Prime. Bam, right there.
Starting point is 00:52:19 That was awesome. That was wild. That was pretty cool. That was the future meets the archaic past, which has to be able to be changed. And the NFL ref said everything everybody's saying is valid. Okay, let's get Sterator out of here, the guy that did the little butt dance into old cousin. Cassius Marsh. Cassius Marsh.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Let's get the old hags out of here. These young guys, you guys sucked last year, okay? But you got one year under your belt, and we're going to go to work this offseason. We're going to be on Zoom calls. We're going to be doing camps. We're going to be talking. We to work this offseason. We're going to be on Zoom calls. We're going to be doing camps. We're going to be talking. We're going to be working. We're going to be getting better.
Starting point is 00:52:48 And when the NFL season comes up, guess what? Nobody's going to say anything. Nobody's going to say anything. You know why? Because we're going to be good. And we don't expect compliments. No, we're just doing our job out there. Offensive linemen.
Starting point is 00:52:58 We're the offensive linemen of the game. Of all officiates. We're bigger offensive linemen than offensive linemen when it comes to getting credit for being good. That's right. Congrats, the NFL refs. Hard work paid off. Thank you, refs. Your hard work paid off, refs.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Long road. It was. A lot of work. To get here is a long road to look back and say, hey, thank you, referees, because it really was bad last year. Oh, yeah. And the year before. And the year before.
Starting point is 00:53:22 And 10 years before that. And the year before. Because last year, remember, we were talking to Pereira. Yes. And we're like, are we realizing these refs suck more now? Or is this status quo? And Pereira's like, this is pretty par for the course. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:36 Yeah. Yeah, it just hasn't been covered as much. You know, normally guys suck or whatever. It's like, so maybe right now we're in the golden era of referee officiating in the fucking NFL. And it was the last year of the point of emphasis. Now it's a point of clarification because it's almost as if, you know, we've moved past that era and it's like, hey,
Starting point is 00:53:51 we just want to clarify illegal contact. And it hasn't been that big of a problem so far. Evolving. Yes. Self-awareness is coming. Come on. A little bit of work. Now the 15-yarder that I was on the benefiting side of in the Colts-Chiefs game,
Starting point is 00:54:06 like, can't have it. Can't have it. Never again. Can't have it. But if we know anything about this crew of NFL refs, they'll be able to learn. Yeah. Maybe start wearing earplugs so you don't have to listen to the trash talk on the field if it's going to upset you.
Starting point is 00:54:19 Yeah, stay on the porch. Bingo. That's right. Keep your ears on the porch. Earmuffs, if you don't want to hear what the men are saying to each other in the middle of the men's league. Bingo. That's right. Keep your ears on the porch. Ear muffs if you don't want to hear what the men are saying to each other in the middle of the men's league. Frank Reich. While competing for food on a fucking table for their family.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Can't have it. It's a great sport. All time. All time. Live on stage with me here at the FanDuel Thunderdome. The Talks at Table. At Boston Connor. At Ty Schmidt.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Congrats to the Yankees winning the AL East. Hell yeah. Last night they locked it down. Aaron Judge had four walks. Come on. Four walks. What? Four walks.
Starting point is 00:54:52 What? Four walks. What? This guy is unbelievable. What a good eye he's got. Aaron Judge can see the ball better than everybody else. He's able to take four walks with records being broken right on the precipice of his life congrats to the yankees honestly it's a big deal i know for you guys it is yeah shout out to the
Starting point is 00:55:10 yanks now the real season starts you know because it doesn't mean shit if they don't win the world series and fucking pitch to aaron judge oh they're not pitching them i mean i shouldn't say they're not pitching to him but it's one of those things where I think people are getting pissed. He does have a great eye, and once he starts pressing, he's not just going to start swinging at pitches out of the zone because he's close to breaking this record. The big issue is guys behind him are like one for 31 in the last however many games, so there's really no reason to pitch to him.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Is this how you beat the Yankees? Possibly. No, because that's kind of the caveat is the Yankees have been very hot in the last ten. They've been winning, but it's like they can keep walking him because the guys behind him aren't punishing them for walking him. Once guys behind him start hitting and they score more runs, it's like you can't just give them a free base.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Yeah, exactly. Because you've got a lot of people yelling about it for good reason because everybody wants to see history, and we're not. Who knows how often we're going to get to this point without every player just sticking every needle that's possible into their body. Exactly. Which they should let them do. They used to be able to do.
Starting point is 00:56:13 Not opposed. Let them juice. Let the boys juice. I want to see home runs. Let the boys juice. I want to see fucking walks. We want to see dong shots. I want to see guys that are as big as possible hitting the ball as far as possible.
Starting point is 00:56:30 And I want to see the most runs possible. How about fire tech? You're not the only one, man. You're not the only one. Because, you know, baseball's ratings were the highest they were ever in the history of watching baseball. ever in the history of watching baseball. When dudes were walking into that batter's box, sweating out sandwiches. What?
Starting point is 00:56:52 Chewing gum that boosts their testosterone. What? Oozing with horse steroids. What? Seeing the ball better with the HGH. Like Ted Williams. Had better hand-eye dexterity because better with the HGH. Like Ted Williams. Had better hand-eye dexterity because of the same HGH.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Had the capability of drinking something else so I was able to get him around any drug test or whatever. They were creating that with Obalko down there. There it is. And then those balls were fucking gone. Like Russ Wilson's Sonic Finn nerve football. We're reading some reviews
Starting point is 00:57:25 of that ball. A lot of people don't agree with what Ty was saying. Yeah, I don't know what the deal is. I fucking hate that ball. What the hell? It sucks. Give it a chance.
Starting point is 00:57:33 Don't buy that. It is his... The worst ball of all time. What are they saying about it? They're saying it's just, well, here they are. Oh, I'll play come back. Yeah, you guys.
Starting point is 00:57:42 Those who never played catch with this ball, how quick they had it up on this screen. There's a one-star review. It's been out for a while. No, we do not know. It has been out for a while. Remember, it had Seattle Seahawks colors there for a bit.
Starting point is 00:57:54 We do not know if this is a review of Russ's ball or not. This could be the back room sabotaging the ball because they didn't get to play with it earlier. July 26th. So when I saw the Russell Wilson infomercial in YouTube video, I couldn't wait to get my hands on a Sonic Fit. Okay, so this does appear to be about the Sonic Fit. It should be ideal for 12-year-old grandson
Starting point is 00:58:14 who throws a football in the park almost every day. I pre-ordered immediately and got it ahead of schedule. Boy, was I wrong. Any 8.3-ounce ball or even a rock will travel just as far as this toy. There it is. I even had several young athletic dads give it a throw. Same result. It never really levels out in a spiral as shown in the videos.
Starting point is 00:58:35 The only way this thing is going to travel 100 yards is to fire it out of a can. Don't waste your time and your money. This thing is a dud. 85 people found that to be helpful. Obviously, one of them wasn't tired of me because we fucking love it. Love this thing. I will say this guy may be on to something very, very tough to throw a spiral with this thing. But when you do.
Starting point is 00:58:58 When you do. It is a moment. It goes. This ball is golf. It is. This ball is golf for football throwers. If you fancy yourself a pretty solid football thrower, go ahead and pick this one up and try to figure this one out.
Starting point is 00:59:11 Now, it's probably going to ruin every other ball that you're going to try to throw. True. But when you throw a spiral with this one, you get the same feeling as you just mashed a drive into the fairway. You get the same feeling of burying a long putt because there's going to be a lot of duffs and duds and chunks and misses when you're playing catch with this dorsal fin ball from Russell Wilson. And that's what keeps us coming back. Doesn't it?
Starting point is 00:59:32 It does. It's so much fun throwing this thing around. I haven't even switched the dorsal fin to the left hand. Maybe I'm throwing it wrong. Maybe with the dorsal fin, we're lefties. Like I was in baseball. Exactly. And also, you know what they're not saying on here,
Starting point is 00:59:49 you kind of get the best of both worlds. If you like baseball, this thing, you can throw a fucking slider. You can throw a curveball with this thing. Every time. Yeah, it's not just going straight. Like, you can tell your buddy, hey, no, we're not actually just standing eye-to-eye throwing this thing. I'm going to need you to line up 25 yards to the left.
Starting point is 01:00:06 I'm going to fucking boop. And you're going to change the dorsal fin. I'm going to change the dorsal fin, so I'm going to throw it to you once over there, and then I'm going to need you to line up 25 yards to the other side, and we're kind of just going to go back and forth. The dorsal fin is like spider tech. Yeah. You can go further.
Starting point is 01:00:21 In go less, you can really get the little stick on that thing, make that song bitch really break off. Darius Butler's here. He didn't get a chance to throw the Russell Wilson dorsal fin ball. Did you get a chance? Yeah, I threw it a couple times. I don't want to be on the catching side of that throw too much. It comes in hot.
Starting point is 01:00:36 You got to catch it right so Ty may get some pitchers sent to him. It is like a little lawn dart situation. It feels like you're only throwing. It fucking stinks. Let's just call it what it is. It feels like you're only throwing. What? It fucking stinks. Yeah. Let's just call it what it is. Somebody bought one because Ty said how much you loved it.
Starting point is 01:00:50 How do you feel, Ty? How do you feel, Ty? Somebody tweeted us and said, hey, Ty, with what you just said, I'm buying my kid one of these. You feel good about yourself now after what old Cousy said there? He said, what a great idea, and it really does just hammer home that I still got the sailing juices. How do you feel good? Best buy. You want to go back to the best buy.
Starting point is 01:01:07 It never leaves. Never leaves. The ball is tough to throw. It is. It's tough to catch as well. But, again, you know, it says on the thing, it's an aerodynamic training football. This thing isn't for just every layman out there.
Starting point is 01:01:21 Recreational. Exactly. Russ is using this in the offseason to get prepared for the NFL season. Your 12-year-old grandson might not be able to fucking spin this thing 100 yards. I'm sorry. Joining us now
Starting point is 01:01:35 is a man who might have played with his dorsal fin ball and that's the true cause for why his fingers are the way they are. That makes sense. I don't think it's for catch. No, not for anything. What's good about the football? Nothing.
Starting point is 01:01:50 So it whistles. It whistles. There's a pretty cool whistle, and that's like when you finally throw a spiral, and that thing whistles and it starts to float, you're like, did it. Yeah. I beat the game. And when you do throw a spiral, you can make some pretty sick catches with it. Ty had a nasty one-hand, because the size of it's rather small.
Starting point is 01:02:09 Yep. You don't expect it to be as small as it is, I think, because that Michael Vick Nerf ball back in the day, pretty good size. Felt like a real football. Had to be, so you could throw it far, by the way, because the heavier the thing, the further it can travel. That ball's awesome. This ball kind of smaller,
Starting point is 01:02:25 which means you can just go ahead and snag that thing out of the sky. When it whistles, it feels good. But joining us now is a man who's probably played catch with this. That is why his fingers are busted. You're not supposed to play catch with it. No. This guy has basically dominated every facet of life. High school, he had 31 tackles in a game twice.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Jesus. He's a college football national. That's pretty good, right? That's awesome. 31. Florida? Anybody in Florida doing anything in high school? Probably. Shot on the sideline, guys. Willie Williams.
Starting point is 01:02:52 First linebacker in Florida comes to mind. He was a man-child. Yeah. They were showing videos of Derrick Henry the other day. Oh, so awesome. Him running in high school against people. It was awesome to watch. What do you have? Just people running into him like a movie, like, bing! Like all high school, basically.
Starting point is 01:03:08 Fournette ones, too, also awesome. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they're saying that they said he would score three touchdowns. Right. Then he'd score four touchdowns. Right. Then he'd score five touchdowns. Right.
Starting point is 01:03:18 And I'm like, no way. And they're like, then he'd have six touchdowns. Right. And I'm like, seven. I'm like, holy fuck. Yeah. Could you imagine going to a game where a guy scores seven fucking touchdowns in one game? I guess that's happening in high school football.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Yeah, when you look like that motherfucker. And he was in a smaller division, too. So it wasn't like he was in 5, 6, 7A. He was in like 2A. This dude had two touchdowns, 31 tackles in two separate games. College football national champion, Super Bowl champion, lover of the dorsal fin Russell Wilson throw football thingy, A.J. Hall. Yeah!
Starting point is 01:03:50 What's up, dude? All right, so I was connected. I have no idea what the hell the dorsal fin ball is. I thought you were talking about the Amazon ball that Russ had that sweet promo for. Okay, Russ wasn't the only one that had the Amazon ball sweet promo. If you do recall, that was... So this is a Team 4 exclusive ball?
Starting point is 01:04:04 Team 3. Team 3. Yeah, Team 3. Team 3. Yeah, Team 3. My bad, guys. The whole crew. I'm sorry, all of them. Jeez. Team 4.
Starting point is 01:04:11 I don't know if you can see it. It's actually Russell's John Hancock right there. Oh, okay. And you got a little QR code. I love it. I haven't got a chance to check out what the QR code leads you to. I'm going to do that right after the show. I assume right to the website, you get to take a selfie with Russell Wilson
Starting point is 01:04:25 and you can buy one of the dorsal fin balls. Best of both worlds. Did you see PFT talking to Russell Wilson last night on Twitter? Yeah, I've seen it. People have gotten pretty creative with Russ's Subway commercial. Not sure on the mic situation and chewing and all of it. It's just kind of awkward.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Commercial? TikTok. On my bet, I guess Russ just telling us how much he loves this kind of awkward. Commercial? TikTok. On my bet, I guess Russ just telling us how much he loves this sandwich he has. Not a commercial. Okay, so I haven't seen the commercial. I only saw PFT having an actual conversation with Russell Wilson yesterday. And the brain on that fucking guy. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 01:05:08 I mean, I assume a lot of people had seen the opportunity to do that video. Right. Now, I do not hang out in the parts of the internet that would have that need to because it seems like magic can be made in there. BFT did that the best that it's ever been done? Is that the best that that style of thing has ever been? I assume it is. Most likely. Are you going to run it?
Starting point is 01:05:23 I don't know. I don't want to get a fucking strike. We should reach out. Team three will rip it down. Yes. There's a lot of people that could potentially give us a strike on that. It's only great pub, though. It's a great pub for all of it.
Starting point is 01:05:33 Yeah, I need to have the Danger Witch. Is that what it's called? The Danger Witch. It's not out yet, right? Oh, yeah. Super spicy. It's out. It's out.
Starting point is 01:05:41 It's secret still. If you still want them. What? those sandwiches they're out yeah is that what gertie's eating what'd he say but he said it's in the vault it's a secret though what is i thought it was like beta testing well that interview might have happened weeks ago true we don't know when pft interviewed russell wilson there you're right we're not all right let's talk about some news aj we talked We talked to Darius Butler about this in hour one, and I assume you were a man, especially because you're from Ohio and you are who you are with your traits and toxic thoughts at all times. At the bottom of a pile, okay?
Starting point is 01:06:16 I'm never grabbing dongs. I'm never showing things. I'm not doing anything like that. Okay. Okay. If that's the question. A couple times it was awkward and weird. Like, man, I just got to hold on to this.
Starting point is 01:06:27 Like you're there and some weird lineman is like trying to maybe forearm you in the ribs. But, no, no one is plugging butts and pulling gongs in there. Well, never heard the first one. Not that I've been a part of it at least. But everyone does say, oh, a lot of things happen under there. So that was my question to Darius actually because I'd been in two piles. One pile I got my hand to ball as soon as hand got to ball though i started getting like chuck like there was bite you they bite your tricep no there's like this fucking like chop coming
Starting point is 01:06:55 at my like wrist and at my wrist and at my arm and it was like you know that game that people play like punch from like oh yeah five inches i'm like how is whoever the fuck because who knows who the fuck that was yeah how is this person generating enough power in this fucking thing it feels like he was sawing through the my boat i'm like all right i'm not gonna get the you got it you can almost like see my shoulder like just all right i'm out of here uh the film shows that i dove in instead of getting out i almost got the ball i have that story forever uh they ultimately end up getting Let's get out of here. Then another one, it was like quick. I was on the outside.
Starting point is 01:07:27 Nothing happened. I talked to Darius. Darius said he and Ewald, who you also know, and we spoke glowingly of Eric Walden's head and hands, man. Ewald setting the edge. Bomb. Head and hands. That dude is awesome.
Starting point is 01:07:37 Setting the edge. Setting the edge, yeah. Yeah, he's going to do it. He's an incredible teammate. We talked about that. He actually reported that Darius was definitely knocked out and not just had a stinger like Darius was telling everybody at the halftime of the game.
Starting point is 01:07:49 Good friend, too. We talked about how awesome he is. But Darius talked about how he and Ewald say, hey, if we can get the ball at the bottom of this pile, we're going to get it. Is that a common thought everywhere? Because I naturally hear, oh, it's going to get nasty under there. I was under there. I felt like it was going to break my arm, but the dong grabbing and butthole plugging,
Starting point is 01:08:09 you're saying like there is rules. There's codes of conduct. There is code. Like a lot of, a lot of athletes do kind of have code and you're right. Like chopping your arms, doing whatever it takes to get, don't even think about reaching your hands near this ball. If your team has that ball, then your guys are going to be all over guys like you. i just i don't know maybe it's a different time maybe they're more into that stuff now and they're they're finding any orifice they can to try to get him to let go of the ball but no at least when i was there i don't remember it happened a bunch there's probably a couple humans through the history that did it right and just like it's hilarious yeah well like in hockey there's guys that will cross check somebody right in the back of the head still and it's like hey this has been out like there's always going to be people
Starting point is 01:08:47 that probably take a little bit of something and go beyond it there's always going to be those types of people what i think we are realizing here is there is shit in there but the grabbing of the dicks is not just every human's doing in the bottom of this is not standard operating procedure like alpha males in the bottom of the jewels. Stay away from the jewels, man. Yeah, can't touch decks, I guess. And who knows? Maybe, I mean, you know, this could be like a compliment to Josh Allen. Guy's got a massive fucking hog, and that was just the first thing about it. Thought it was his arm.
Starting point is 01:09:13 Thought it was his arm. Exactly. Thought it was his arm. It's like, oh, shit, you know, Josh Allen's got a 16-inch penis. Where's the ball? There's his arm. Found his arm. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:09:21 Found his arm. Ball's got to be close. Maybe he's blinded. Can't see in the pile. Oh, there's his arm. Exactly. Found his arm. Ball's got to be close. Maybe he's blinded. Can't see in the pile. Oh, there's his arm. All right. It's possible. It's possible.
Starting point is 01:09:34 That information is from Kyle Brandt's basement. If he had a dark visor on, you never know. Might not be able to tell. Let's pivot into a completely different conversation now. Very serious. This is going to be very serious. And I think this is good for the entire country to hear because there is a story that is currently captivating the southeast of our United States of America
Starting point is 01:09:55 that the entire world kind of has their eye on because of what storms in the past have done to cities and towns all over the East Coast. From the south, obviously, we all remember New Orleans, all the way up to the Northeast with a couple different hurricanes that have made their way up there. And obviously, Florida potentially gets decimated every single year, it feels like, full rebuild with these hurricane storms. I'm from Pittsburgh, went to school in West Virginia, live in Indiana,
Starting point is 01:10:19 have no clue what the fuck a hurricane is, have no idea what the normalcy of it is. This one, the way they're talking about Hurricane Ian, seems to be one of the biggest assholes of all time when it comes to hurricanes. Allegedly broaching a Category 5. As of yesterday, it was like 500 miles wide, 170 mile an hour winds were cooking off this morning. They have a path on it where they think it's going to go,
Starting point is 01:10:43 but nobody really has a clue. And it's kind of captivating the sports community as well. This weekend, a lot of big games in the area in which Hurricane Ian could be going, although they say it's not easy to predict the direction of a hurricane. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers actually evacuated Tampa Bay and went to Miami, which is interesting because at the time of the decision to go to Miami, Hurricane Ian was closer to Miami than it was to Tampa, but I guess the real shit's about to come. Joining us now, beat reporter for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to allow us a little bit of
Starting point is 01:11:14 insight on what life is like, not only as a resident of Florida right now in the area in which Hurricane Ian could come, but also covering a team that has already had to evacuate just a couple of days before a Sunday night football game. Ladies and gentlemen, Rick Stratton. What's going on, bub? What's up, guys? Yeah, you know, these hurricanes, it's with apologies to game day. You don't want this coming to your city, you know, and it looked like it was going to be a direct hit on Tampa Bay.
Starting point is 01:11:41 And it has moved a little bit south. But communities like Punta gorda and sarasota not that far away are going to feel the brunt of what is just a massive storm we don't normally have these kind make landfall in the west coast of florida but this one's going to for sure okay rick we appreciate you joining us in the middle of this i assume there's a lot of planning and conversation going on with everybody around you, let alone the Buccaneers on the move as well. So your job is strenuous. You're born and raised in Tampa, right?
Starting point is 01:12:09 And I know Florida. We got Darius Butler here who's from South Florida, and we got to talk to him a little bit about it. And once you get off, we'll continue our conversation with him about what life is like in Miami, where I think they're warned of it on a regular basis. Like, hey, a hurricane could come, a hurricane could come. This one, it feels like it's very real, but Floridians are kind of used to this type of stuff? Or is this one being treated differently down there?
Starting point is 01:12:30 I think that, you know, on the west coast of Florida, like I said, they're a little more rare. And it's been 100 years since the direct hit on Tampa Bay. I hope everybody's taking it seriously. I mean, when you see a storm of this size, it's hard not to. I think most of the people have had mandatory evacuations along the West Coast. They've heeded those warnings and they really should, because you're talking about storm surges that will wipe out entire communities on the coast. So I know that everyone in my neighborhood, I'm very much inland and pretty safe and high and dry, so to speak. But they've all taken precautions and, you know, boarding up windows or whatever you got to do.
Starting point is 01:13:09 And you either hunker down or you or you evacuate. And we're not in an evacuation zone, thankfully. But it's been very stressful. You know, people do some panic buying. They run out of gas up around here pretty easily. There's just a lot of things that go on but uh you know like i said uh somebody's going to bear the brunt of this unfortunately i i think that tampa bay might be spared a good portion of it and um that's that's
Starting point is 01:13:37 kind of what's happening right now uh before aj has a question and i apologize i have to elaborate on this i just learned what storm surge is because I think that's probably common conversation down in the hurricane that's just when the ocean is picked up and fucking moved on to land right that's basically what that is that's it man you know you're if you they're saying like 16 feet they're saying like 16 feet this fucking thing is just moving on to land that's is that everywhere yeah well in in certain areas around the Iowa, for sure, as it comes to shore. And what happens is, and it's really bizarre, even in Tampa Bay right now, if you're near the bay, if you've ever been on a beach and you see the waves, you know, the sand gets sucked back into the ocean.
Starting point is 01:14:17 Well, right now, off of Bayshore Boulevard in Tampa, you could walk out there hundreds of yards because there's no water. And that's scary because all that water is being sucked back in and then a storm surge is going to come. And if it is that high, you know, anyone's been to the beach and gone over a causeway, you see the bay there, those communities along the coast are going to be effectively underwater. And that's what's really scary if you don't evacuate. And then the loss of property and all of that is devastating. Charlie hit here many years ago.
Starting point is 01:14:50 It was a Category 4, but it was a smaller storm in terms of its width. This one's a monster compared to that. So I can't imagine the damage that will come from this. I just hope everybody took the right precautions. Rick, what about the families of the players, coaches, staff, everybody there? Did they take off or what are they doing? Yeah, you know, the Bucs chartered several planes and they made sure that anybody that wanted to come would come with them to Miami.
Starting point is 01:15:19 They did that on Tuesday. You know, and Miami at that time, the storm was far enough away that if they chose to drive down there, they could do that too. Some were caring for elderly parents and many of them have kids, even pets have made the trek down there. So it's a very unusual experience. But as long as they know their families are safe, maybe they can concentrate for those few hours a day on preparing for a football game that right now looks like it might be played in Tampa on Sunday night. We don't know. It could be someplace else. We've heard things like Minnesota and whatnot, but they're doing
Starting point is 01:15:55 the best they can. It's just not a normal circumstance to have to relocate during the week for a home game. Why'd they go to Miami, you think? That was already in conversation. That was the easiest conversation, easiest move. Because when they go to Miami, you think? That was already in conversation. That was the easiest conversation, easiest move. And because when they moved to Miami, when did they go down there? Because I think if it was when it was reported, Hurricane Ian was closer to Miami than it was to Tampa. So, like, us looking outside, it was like, why would you go to a place that's still being affected by it?
Starting point is 01:16:18 But I guess because it's moved past, it's moved on, that's what they were banking on? Yeah, I think, you know, at that that time the track was more towards Tampa Bay, so they wanted to get out of Dodge. And I think that they felt on that coast, on the east coast of Florida, there wouldn't be the impact that there is on the west coast. It did track south more southerly than it expected. They're still able to practice today, and I think that they'll be okay.
Starting point is 01:16:45 They looked at, I guess, a facility in West Virginia that teams go to sometimes, and that would have been fine, except it's too far away for some of the families to travel in some cases. So Miami, the Dolphins are playing Thursday night at Cincinnati, so their facility was available, and it was very close. I think it just kind of all worked out the best logistically. Ty, your question for Rick Stratton. Yeah, Rick, so you mentioned, do you have any idea when we'll know if that game's going to be played Sunday night?
Starting point is 01:17:14 I know they kind of said that they're waiting as late as possible. When do you expect to know when and where that game will be played? I think they'll have to make a decision probably by Thursday or Friday, simply because you're talking about the possibility of more travel involved. They're in Miami. Some of their families are there. They got to make their way back here as well. So really, I got to believe within the next 24 to, I don't know, 30 hours or so, we'll know where that game is. Once this storm passes, if Tampa Bay is spared, there'll be a lot of emergency people that will have to go to the area to help out, clean that up and secure it, whatever communities hit, because Punta Gorda and Sarasota is not that far from here.
Starting point is 01:18:01 But if they have the, you know, the manpower in terms manpower in terms of safety and police and all that to put on a game in Tampa, they'll certainly do so. So we should know something here. I think maybe as early as this time tomorrow, it just depends on where that storm eventually lands. Rick, all of our positive vibes to everybody down there. We appreciate you stopping in here, trying to clarify some of our questions on a
Starting point is 01:18:25 grander scheme, because we're a bunch of ignorant stooges, and good luck, boss. We appreciate the hell out of you. Thanks, guys. Thanks for having me. Ladies and gentlemen, Rick Stride. Yeah, Rick! So that's the unpredictability, right, of a hurricane that was originally supposed to go there, now it's turned a little souther.
Starting point is 01:18:42 Obviously not great for the cities that thought they were kind of not in it. Now they're in it, but there's a chance that could change again. South Florida, is it just like always on watch, or is it just always a potential? I mean, you know hurricane season, summertime, maybe June to November or something like that. But you kind of know, and then every year, every couple years,
Starting point is 01:19:03 I'll say it's one that kind of gets more hype and it's bigger has more wind has more things more dangerous but you're pretty used to it on that east coast but like you said i didn't know it's been it hasn't been a hundred years you know hit the west coast of florida so it's much different for them than it is for us but you're always somewhat prepared like you know houses a lot of people have you know their shutters so people start putting up short as like you know, houses. A lot of people have, you know, their shutters. So people start putting up shutters. Like you said, panic buying, buying a bunch of things. So it's crazy down there. But the south is more prepared.
Starting point is 01:19:31 But, like you said, Punta Gorda. What was the other one? Sarasota. Yeah. Man, stay safe down there. And the surrounding areas, of course. Hey, storm surge is the real. AJ, did you know what storm surge was?
Starting point is 01:19:41 I didn't know until last night what storm surge was. And it feels like Floridians, they just say it as if it's just like a normal thing. Well, the storm surge is really what we're keeping an eye out for. And just the conversation moves on. And I'm like, what is storm surge? And it's like, it's when the ocean just becomes bigger. Is that technically when it hits landfall or what? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:20:02 When all that storm crosses over and bam, it hits land. And that's when it really does all the damage. Because there's tornadoes. or what uh i don't know yeah when all that storm crossed over and all bam it hits land and then so that's when it really does all the damage because there's tornadoes there so just natural as somebody who's not from the area and have never been down there with when it happens they always it's the same description from the sky as a tornado that we experience over here in the midwest obviously oklahoma experiences in different fashion in iowa, everybody. But I've grown accustomed to the tornado life here in Indiana because it's potentially happening, and a couple have hit up and down. But from the Doppler, it looks like a pretty similar thing.
Starting point is 01:20:34 So is every hurricane a tornado, but then you just add in the ocean as a tag team partner of the tornado? Most hurricanes, they'll have tornadoes pop up within them, but they aren't like open land out here in Kansas or somewhere. They just go and just demolish it for minutes or hours. It'll probably be a tornado that pops up for 15, 20 minutes. This is a visual of the storm surge. But outside of that, it's just a lot of wind, obviously, a lot of rain, a lot of debris flying around. So it's a tornado with the ocean.
Starting point is 01:21:05 Well, and he mentioned it. i didn't even think of it but from being down there the causeways like because those are low close to the ocean so if this thing is getting up to 16 feet like that's just that is crazy like there's there's really nothing you can do to i mean what's a tsunami then wiped out a mass way a huge wave that makes land? Like, what's a tsunami? How is that different? Earthquake? So I guess the Doppler is the difference, right? Because I don't know if a tsunami has a... No, it doesn't have...
Starting point is 01:21:33 That's... It's when a monster-like rogue wave smashes into... I remember when it happened a while back, yeah. And what do they say? That's the moon, right? The moon is what creates the waves. All that stuff. What happened to George Clooney on the boat?
Starting point is 01:21:45 Was that a hurricane? The perfect storm. That was the perfect storm. That was three hurricanes submerged into one. Oh, no. So that's what happens with these two. So while this one's coming, there are other ones that are forming that you've got to keep an eye on that can come in.
Starting point is 01:21:58 So you can have a hurricane come and then a couple weeks later, another one can come through. It doesn't happen often, but when it does, you know, it can get ugly. That's a different worry. That's a different worry that not a lot of people have. Like, in Pittsburgh, we get flooding, you know, because the amount of hills. So there's flooding. So, like, flash rain is a problem with flooding.
Starting point is 01:22:16 We don't really get tornadoes because of how hilly and mountain-y everything is. Bridges. So we don't get that. Bridges, I guess that is a natural disaster. Collapsing, sorry. Well, yeah, that is a man-made thing. But where I come from, there's not a lot of, like, earthquakes aren't happening over there. So then I moved to the Midwest, and it's like tornadoes are a thing.
Starting point is 01:22:35 And my introduction to tornadoes is just like, yeah, you just kind of look at the sky and hope it hits another neighborhood. It's like, okay, so you can't control it. Go downstairs. You seen one yet? Yeah, go downstairs. Yeah, exactly. You seen a tornado heard one heard one i heard one though come through the woods i hope you never see one me too everybody got their shit you got earthquakes west coast you got blizzards yeah west coast is different i think it's like building houses down there you got all that code you got to build them like they got to be hurricane proof and that's why yeah like
Starting point is 01:23:02 d-butt said those houses have the shutters that they know they're going to put up. Or they can just close them up and lock them. Yeah, somebody sent me a tweet. Impact windows. A guy sent me a tweet, and I asked you. This dude's from Pittsburgh, lives down in Florida now for like 20 years. And he was drilling in metal, I think, to cover up his windows. Those are shutters?
Starting point is 01:23:19 Does everybody just have those when you buy your house? Most people have them. Because you don't want to be in a situation where you got to go at this point and try to find some. And if you are, usually you just got to put some plywood and just put it over the windows. But some houses are built with almost like shutters built in. So you just close them, open them. And then like mine, I have them in the garage, just throw them up. But you got to got to have them for worst case scenarios, even with impact windows.
Starting point is 01:23:41 You know, you still it's just something about seeing that glass or seeing a piece of metal covering that glass i'd rather that piece of metal every time but it's definitely scary man as a kid crazy as it sounds we used to love hurricanes because it was just crazy wind rain and then for 30 minutes when you get into the eye it's just like a normal day go outside running around for a few minutes and then that other side of the eye comes through but um and that's when it's that's when it says serious too right so oh yeah because we always hear about the eye of the storm i think tornado has one as well but the eye of a hurricane seems to be a lot larger a lot bigger in a lot bigger time and darius said that is like a perfect day or whatever but then when it comes back it's the hardest like the other side is going to be harder than it was even before
Starting point is 01:24:27 because that's – or damn near the same exact because the core of it is where it is at its strongest. That's what Rick was talking about, that eye wall. Yeah, the eye wall. That's where the storm is like most powerful, right outside of that eye wall. But when it hits land, it starts to lose steam. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:24:42 It starts to lose steam. Oh, the little fetches. Yeah, the faster the hurricane is moving, I think Zito put it up, they move from like, what, 15 to 60 miles per hour? So you want it to kind of go quickly over you. You want it to go 50, 60 miles an hour? Nah, you want it somewhere in that middle.
Starting point is 01:24:57 But you don't want that eye to sit over you for a while. And then, because you know that other side is going to be ugly on the other side. Man. It's wild, man. But evacuate when they tell you to evac a lot of people a lot of floridians especially because like you said this is an every year thing and a lot of people are kind of like oh yeah whatever i'm gonna hunker down the whole storm system may be five to six miles high and 300 to 400 miles wide although sometimes can be even
Starting point is 01:25:23 bigger if typically moves forward at speeds of 10 to 15 miles an hour, but can travel as fast as 40 miles per hour. The term hurricane is usually restricted to the Atlantic and Northeast Pacific region. Okay, so we don't even got to dive into us saying that we have hurricanes, other people don't. Yeah, it never happens in the Northeast. That's why Sandy was so devastating. Like the Northeast, I feel like it gets the Nor'easter like blizzards, in the Northeast. That's why Sandy was so devastating. The Northeast, I feel like, gets the nor'easter blizzards, not the hurricanes. So was that Category 5 then, I guess?
Starting point is 01:25:50 Sandy? Yeah, the one that can make it all the way up there has to be Category 5. Is that the one that shut down New York City and they had no power for like a week? Yes, and I think it hit pretty close to New York City. That's where it started? I thought it went up. Did it not go up the? Yeah, I feel like that one hit first, like North Carolina.
Starting point is 01:26:07 Yeah, I wasn't sure where. It went up the coast. I thought that's why it was a bigger deal, because it hit so much further up the coast. Zuta said eight different countries have to deal with hurricanes, is it? No, just Sandy. Sandy hit eight different countries. Sandy was a problem. $70 billion worth of damage.
Starting point is 01:26:24 So, did Sandy go up north up there to the uh iceland in canada it says caribbean to canada oh the caribbean so they were down here yeah so they went up the entire side this one's coming the land slows it down though yeah that's kind of a bank like people bank on that like hey once it gets to land it will hopefully slow down yeah but if you like rick, if you're on that path. Right on the water, like, it don't matter. Well, and if it bounces back out, does it gain steam? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:52 Because we were talking about Ian going across Florida and then going back out to the ocean, then coming back in at, like, Georgia. We would like everybody to be safe. College game day. Is it still in the path of hurricane ian which is they're calling no no it's still aj i think you're good aj hey how scared were people 500 years ago you have no idea what the hell this is how about the eye of the storm coming oh my god we're good and then oh it's beautiful we're about what the fuck dude and then the next time it comes like
Starting point is 01:27:23 don't celebrate remember last time we celebrated? They brought the horror and the shit to it. Like, how many times did it happen that they were like, all right, nobody's going to celebrate anymore. Everybody fucking into your caves, into your holes, whenever it stops. They probably had a better beat on it back then than they do now. Do you think so? They knew it was coming. They probably smelled it coming or something.
Starting point is 01:27:41 You know how many people died during hurricanes back in the day? I mean, they had obviously worse equipment. I don't know if there's millions of people back in the day. There would have been if the hurricanes didn't kill them all. I mean, South Carolina is still directly in its path there. Yeah, but remember, people who know more about hurricanes than us say, there's a chance of seeing moose. Yeah, when it hits land, it'll slow down.
Starting point is 01:28:03 It's going right back into the fucking. I saw Jim Cantor trending, right? Yeah, and there was another guy that was out there, too. Was it Steve Wiseman or something? DiNardo? DiNardo's son? Jeffrey? Easy.
Starting point is 01:28:15 Joe Nardo's dead. Bite your tongue, AJ. Does he have... I would guess he has offspring. I would assume they're Emmy-winning weather people. Jeff DiNardo. It's like Steve Irwin's kids. They just carry it on. There isn't nepotism in the weather game, pal. You's like Steve Irwin's kids. They just carried on.
Starting point is 01:28:25 There isn't nepotism in the weather game, pal. You either can read the Doppler. We want Al Roker Jr. We want Jeff Cantor. Fuck Al Roker. Like referees' kids. He's got shitted pants on TV. Listen, he's on TV every fucking day for 45 years.
Starting point is 01:28:40 There's a chance you're going to let a little fart with poop out, dude. Yeah. All right, Al Roker does his absolute best. Did that really happen? Come on. Probably. Did he run off set like Joe Paul? What happened? I didn't see it. Listen, we know what happened with Joe.
Starting point is 01:28:56 Yeah. Joe's butthole said, it's time for Cornwall to come around. We're going to let a little poop out. I can't remember, was Joe Paul wearing Depends at that time? Or was that later? I know he was coaching with Depends on, so he might have been like,
Starting point is 01:29:10 ah, poop my diaper. I got to go change it. We'll ask AQ next week. Anyways, rest in peace, Joe and Nora. Rest in peace to Joe. Appreciate you, Joe. I wish Joe was here to let us know if game day is going to be okay or not.
Starting point is 01:29:20 He'd tell you. 50% chance. Dude, Zito, don't listen to what fucking AQ says. Oh, AQ's golf tee times were affected by Joe DiNardo misreading the Doppler one time. Get out of here, dude. Joe was just messing around, too. He was, you know, on hole one, teeing off, and there was
Starting point is 01:29:36 nobody out there because he wanted to play golf. That's like when cops just abuse the siren when they want to get through traffic. Joe DiNardo wants a tee time, and it's all booked up. 92, 93% chance of rain today in this particular part of town. Sorry about it. From 1 p.m. to 3 p.m. Sorry about that.
Starting point is 01:29:52 It's going to start at like 9.15 a.m. to about 11.20 a.m. Noon should open right up. Head down the hatches. Stay in your house. Joe Nardo wouldn't do that because he was an honorable fucking doppler. That's right. Nonetheless, yeah, still planning on flying into a hurricane and do game day this weekend. Exc in your house. Joe Nardo wouldn't do that because he was an honorable fucking doppelganger. That's right. Nonetheless, yeah, still planning on flying into a hurricane
Starting point is 01:30:08 and do game day this weekend. Excited about it. Got to fly out of it, too, because Saturday night, right here at the Thunderdome, college football prime time with the Pat McAfee show. I believe we're all going to be a part of it. I don't know if everybody's travel plans have been figured out. You looking at me? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:29 Oh, I thought you were looking at D-Bud or something. No, yeah, I plan on being there, of course. I'll be there. Let's go. Here we go. Even without Ohio State playing. Have a couple of surprise guests, too, calling in. Really?
Starting point is 01:30:40 I think. We got one at least locked in. Obama? President Obama will not be calling in. Don't sleep on Barry O. You've been. Dabo one at least locked in. Obama? President Obama went off the call. Don't sleep on Barry O. Dabo? I forgot about Z. Z is an impressionist.
Starting point is 01:30:54 Anytime Obama gets mentioned, Z goes right into his impersonation. But yeah, Saturday night should be a blast. If I get here. We'll see what happens. You'll be here. Put that thing back up on the screen. How do you know? I'm Lacho Nardo.
Starting point is 01:31:07 This is awesome, yeah. Yeah, you're right. Good vibes. I got good energy. Good vibes. Yeah, I'm thinking about flying in a hurricane. It's from windy.com. That doesn't help.
Starting point is 01:31:17 Yeah, this is Wind Horse. Oh, this is Wendy's website? This is Wind Horse. That's right. Sponsored by Helmets. Can you zoom in a little bit? It's going right. I mean, the center of the path right now is, I believe, where Clemson is.
Starting point is 01:31:27 Go down. You've got to go down. Left. Up. Where's the eye right now? It's like right in that area. I believe right in that area. Yeah, Clemson.
Starting point is 01:31:36 There it is. So we're in the middle of that thing. But the game's still scheduled to go, right? Of course. As of now. Death Valley. Do they have any backup plans? I have no idea. I'm not high enough on totem pole i've let some people know though about my concerns sure about
Starting point is 01:31:53 like oh you know i think any other game day i would have been able to just hang out in the town for the entire day yeah this is literally gonna fly back for a thing don't love flying out of natural disasters or into them because a lot of wind is dependent upon whether or not you fly. We've done it before. Yeah, Foxy and I reminisced yesterday about flying over a tornado in a tropical storm. It was wild.
Starting point is 01:32:16 That was a lot of fun. Well, it's not like there are any other good games this weekend for college football. It's really just Clemson and NC State. That's the thing. All right, dude. What does that mean? There's a lot of good games. Several good. There's a high-profile matchup. There's a lot of it.
Starting point is 01:32:32 I haven't seen the slate. Is it good? Yeah, there's a lot of good games. Baylor, Oklahoma State. Iowa, Michigan. There's a lot of good games. But Clemson and NC State, two top 10mson NC State Two top ten teams NC State in the top ten for the first time in a long time
Starting point is 01:32:48 Should celebrate the shit out of that Phil Rivers, NC State grad Boom, stud, Mike Glennon NC State grad Ever heard of him? NC State grad, boom Chuck Amato, old coach, big old barrel chest Sweet shades on
Starting point is 01:33:04 Jimmy V NC State coach Ever heard of him? Chuck Amato, old coach, big old barrel chest, sweet shades on. Boom. Jimmy V. Jimmy V. Oh. NC State coach. That's where Jimmy V found his fame, obviously, for the Jimmy V Foundation. Was Russell at NC State? He was. Russell Wilson, NC State.
Starting point is 01:33:17 Boom. Boom. Top ten for the first time in a long time, taking on Clemson. Hey, it's NC State team. Coaching staff's been together a long time. Culture's been instilled for a long time. It's going to be a battle. Clemson, I don't want to say they're gettable right now,
Starting point is 01:33:31 but this isn't the Clemson that everybody has recalled from recent history that's just a steamboat here, you know what I mean? Just went to overtime. With Wake. A lot of points. Yep. D coordinator left after he'd been there for a long time. The dude's a legend.
Starting point is 01:33:44 Venable's gone. He's now with Oklahoma head coach and them. They got a brand new defense that seems to be flying around. Yeah. I mean, this is probably in NC State's mind. They're thinking it's the highest we've been ranked and we got a chance to go get Clemson right now for the first time in a long time. That's why it is a huge game. This is a huge.
Starting point is 01:34:01 We are. I am not underselling the game. I'm excited to be in Clemson. I believe they have a Hall of Fame introduction happening this weekend in Clemson for somebody that we know. So like, I think it's going to be an awesome, it's potentially an awesome weekend to be in Clemson. And I'm, you know, I'd be very lucky to be there. That being said, selfishly would also not like to fly into a fucking hurricane or out of a hurricane. Seems like they're telling people to leave that area. Right. I'd be one of the only people in the,
Starting point is 01:34:24 in the country flying right into the middle of it. That just seems like an interesting mental hurdle, but I'll get over it. I'll get through it. I'm sure I will. Well, and I think that's fairly reasonable. Fairly sane. You know, not a whole lot of people want to fly into a hurricane or fly out of a hurricane. Cantor does.
Starting point is 01:34:40 Of course. But you're not Jim Cantor. Bingo. If we all wanted to fly into tornadoes and hurricanes, then why the fuck would Jim Cantor be Jim Cantor. Bingo. If we all wanted to fly into tornadoes and hurricanes, then why the fuck would Jim Cantor be Jim Cantor? There it is. Sum of the concho. Imagine his ass standing in the middle of the stadium. Fucking the thing going, I got Clemson by a thousand.
Starting point is 01:35:03 And then he just gets fucking sucked off the screen. That'd be awesome. Oh, man. The last thing he ever does. Uh-oh. What's that? Easy. What's up?
Starting point is 01:35:12 He comes right inside of George Kittle, I believe Trico said the other night. What are you talking about? We're talking about sports. Let's go to another incredible sports story. Have you seen the video from cleveland.com of miles garrett body cam footage from either a firefighter or police officer somehow some way miles garrett has uh cut on his hand uh separated shoulder or something like that strained biceps and a couple ripped t-shirts yeah somehow in a one single car accident roll over in
Starting point is 01:35:44 his porsche alongside a passenger who also appeared to be OK in the video. Mary Kay Cabot, Miles Garrett suffered a sprained shoulder, a strained biceps and cut hand when he flipped his Porsche. No concussions, not ruled out for the Falcons game. Mary Kay was told that he'll try to play. Absolute insanity. We chatted about this yesterday. We were told it was on a wet road. It appears from the body cam footage that it was not a wet road. Was he trying to avoid an animal? Probably. There's a chance. I don't know where this is in Cleveland or not. When we saw the photos of the Porsche, we thought to ourselves, damn, how does Miles Garrett get into a Porsche? He's 6'4", 275, and we thought there had to be some serious injuries to Miles Garrett. They were saying
Starting point is 01:36:22 it was non-life-threatening at the beginning. After seeing this video, I think the only thing I wondered was, will he be able to stand up? By the end of this video, he literally walks off the film, off the camera. We are so incredibly pumped and thankful for that that Miles Garrett ended up okay. The passenger appears to be okay as well, but certainly a surprising story and a surprising end to something we thought could have been very terrible for a guy who is very dominant in the nfl well i'm sure it was super scary for him like you know anyone has even been in a minor wreck like it's it's crazy geez that was violent even if it's not like a
Starting point is 01:36:53 high speed thing but he rolled that car multiple times right yeah multiple rollovers we we talked earlier about his mind as that thing's rolling he's thinking he's dead right there's that has to there's that thought. Have you ever rolled a car? I've never rolled a car, especially multiple times. I spun one. And I spun like two times. Well, that was a tail whip.
Starting point is 01:37:14 That was different. Watch that. That was a control. You tried to go in your house and tell your future wife, I'm sorry, I'm too embarrassed to talk to you. Yeah, can't be around each other anymore. I don't know if this is the universe telling me,
Starting point is 01:37:28 probably not the right move, but I also know I don't want to talk about this every day for the rest of my life. Just crash my Shelby. Get your stuff out of my house right now. No, it wasn't like that. Hey, I'm not sure we'll see each other ever again. Sorry about it.
Starting point is 01:37:46 I'm going to get out of here. And, you know, Shelby's been fixed. The tree was removed. Pothole has not been fixed. That thing is still sitting there waiting for me. I used to be really comfortable with how I could drift that particular vehicle and other vehicles, too. I grew up in a, you know, a driving family. You know, I'm pretty good with floating gears. You know, I'm pretty good with floating gears.
Starting point is 01:38:05 You know, I'm pretty good behind the wheel. I feel like I'm a good driver, solid driver. If I was smaller, I would attempt to become an actual professional race car driver because I don't think I have the fear that some people have of going fast and like being worried. I enjoy driving. So when I got that Shelby 660 horsepower to the back wheels, you know what I mean? It's hard not to... And drift that thing. And I had a little roundabout in front of my house. So, naturally. It was almost perfect.
Starting point is 01:38:32 Yeah, had to do it. How is that house doing? Still standing. Raccoon still surviving. What? Hell yeah. There's an office over there on that property that's still used like daily. So, it's still up and running.
Starting point is 01:38:42 Still doing its thing. Just haven't lived there in a bit. I'm not sure if anybody took the black mold out. And by that, I mean, I haven't hired anybody to take the black mold out. So it's probably, you walk into there,
Starting point is 01:38:50 it is a little toxic and nuclear. You should not do that. But you live and you learn. You grow up. And I forget what I was going to say. Oh yeah, the fear though. The fear whenever you're having one of those,
Starting point is 01:39:00 like Miles Garrett, when he's sitting on that ground right there, we're seeing a moment where I would assume with some part of his brain, he's like like i can't fucking believe i'm still alive right now yeah and if he plays this weekend i'll be absolutely amazed i'll be so impressed in the mental toughness of that uh we're happy that you're okay miles miles we're happy you're
Starting point is 01:39:21 okay miles i think i get him into get him into russ's truck man you're okay, Miles. Get him into Russ's truck, man. You're not going to roll that thing. Yeah, Russ's big old truck he showed up at training camp in. Russ only drives that in his own jersey, you know. That's right. But he walks over through that little grass area there that is not easy. That's fucking unbelievable to me. Yeah, wild. It actually is.
Starting point is 01:39:41 It's very surprising. We're very happy. Seems like the passenger also good. It actually is. It's very surprising. We're very happy. Seems like the passenger also good. Some more stories. James Winston might not be playing this weekend against the Vikings in London Town. He missed practice yesterday. Now, is that because they're traveling and they might just be giving him a day off? Or is it because a couple weeks ago he fractured four vertebrae in his back
Starting point is 01:40:00 when he said everything hurts, everything's pain, pain everywhere? He did that entire thing. He has played two games since then, so I don't think we've talked about it that much. But Jeff Duncan is reporting, looks like the Saints are preparing in case they have to make a change of quarterback. Jameis Winston was not at practice today.
Starting point is 01:40:16 Andy Dalton took the first team reps to quarterback with Taysom Hill receiving reps as reserve quarterback. This is different than past weeks where Jameis might have gotten some time off so is Andy Dalton the red-headed wonder about to lead the New Orleans Saints which is a very good team because Jameis is injured I guess TBD for Sunday morning in London town AJ Hawk yeah this is why they they signed the red rocket because you could throw them in there if something happens to Jameis now obviously I don't want anything wrong with Jameis I know the dude's a warrior and fighting through a lot but hey it's a good deal andy was a great starter for a long time in the nfl man it's gonna be uh it should be in good hands and i think we are two
Starting point is 01:40:52 guys that might say positive things about andy dalton into microphones on a regular basis about andy dalton because we've met andy dalton we probably like andy dalton now you know andy dalton a lot more than me i've only known known him a little bit. Seems like I like him. I could say fuck Andy Dalton at any moment. I don't know him that well. I thought he was supposed to come on the show. I don't know him. Yeah, but he just got named starting quarterback, I believe, for the Cowboys that time. So I have given, I've done like, okay
Starting point is 01:41:16 you got it. I don't know if the last couple of situations he's been in are necessarily the best situations for us to judge him in. Now, his teammates not helping him up off the ground when he got decapitated tells me a lot, almost too much. Makes me think like, oh, people hate this guy, or maybe they didn't know him enough.
Starting point is 01:41:31 But maybe with the team around him, Andy Dalton has shown in the past that he can win some fucking games. That's like six years ago. But maybe he's able to do it with the same squad that seems to have guys everywhere. They just need to go make a run. And that's obviously, we hope James is okay. Yeah, hope James is okay.
Starting point is 01:41:46 I hope he plays. Taysom Hill, I guess he just stinks now. I'm glad that whole entire ship has sailed, supposedly. Andy Dolan is no longer the Red Rocket. I feel like we have seen what Andy Dolan was in the past few years. And the new Red Rocket is Cooper Cush. We've said this. We've seen him playing.
Starting point is 01:42:02 He is the new Ginger Jesus. We're not talking about Andy Dalton winning games anymore. If anything, I'm excited this weekend to see what Kirk Cousins and Justin Jefferson does and if there's some sort of new London gritty. I don't want to watch
Starting point is 01:42:17 Andy Dalton slate the pigskin. I want to watch Justin Jefferson scoring touchdowns. You want a little London gritty out of him. Exactly. Something new. A teacup or something. Yeah, what is the, what do they do over there? Tea and. Tea and crumpets. Say grit tea and crumpets.
Starting point is 01:42:32 Got to figure out. Two rocks. Crunk. Crunkets. Got to figure out what crumpets are. What are those? Like bread and biscuits. It's like a little biscuit, I think.
Starting point is 01:42:40 There it is. Like a little biscuit at tea time. I'm not mistaken. I've actually never heard any comments. Where's that guy from? Where's this particular gentleman from, Tom? You know, pretty much anywhere in England. I don't really know the different, you know.
Starting point is 01:43:01 I thought the Scousers had a little different accent, don't they? The Liverpool lads? Yeah. There's a stigma. Yeah,ers had a little different accent, don't they? The Liverpool lads? There's a stigma in this world. They talk a little different, I think, than the rest of England, right? I think there is a little local regional dialects of the English accent. So you're saying this particular gentleman that you are talking as right now, from everywhere. Yeah, from wherever Michael Caine's from. So maybe the English countryside.
Starting point is 01:43:26 Again, I don't really know, you know, any fucking cities in England outside of London. Birmingham. Manchester. Birmingham, Manchester. Straight in the part of Avon, which I believe is where Bill Shakespeare's from. William. Yes. What's the angle, guy?
Starting point is 01:43:46 Where are they from? I believe they're from the West End of London. Okay. You're the best. Big game in London this weekend. Huge. I do wonder how that Vikings team will do against the Saints defense. The Vikings team has been like this, D,
Starting point is 01:44:01 but what are your thoughts on how that matchup will fare? They've been adjusting. Defenses have been finding this, D, but what are your thoughts on that or how that matchup will fare? They've been adjusting. Defenses have been finding ways to slow down 18. Jefferson, Okuda did a good job on them last week. We all saw what Slade did to him on Monday night. And now he's got Marshawn Lattimore, who's one of the best in the business
Starting point is 01:44:16 too. So you like the Saints defense maybe against the Vikings? Yeah, but if Andy Dalton's out there stinking it up, they can be out there for 90 plays. Stinking it up, they can be out there for 90 plays. Stinking it up? I'm just saying if, you know, if he has a chance to go out there and light it up too. AJ, how about this guy?
Starting point is 01:44:31 There's a new Ginger Jesus. Fucking step out of town, Andy Dalton. We got Cooper Cush here. It's not as easy as that. No. AJ, is it? Hearing Connor say that made me feel much better about the game the Red Rocket will play because the Red Rocket knows.
Starting point is 01:44:43 He's got a chip on his shoulder like, hey, there is the King Ginger in this league and I'm still that guy and he wants to prove that if he gets in the lineup on Sunday. We'd like to let all the Gingers know I got red in my beard so we're allowed to talk this way. That's right. Me too, actually. Sorry about that. I got red in my beard too. My beard's like orange. Because it does sound a little
Starting point is 01:44:59 hmm. You know, because there can only be one redhead. Harris. Right. It is a little Harris. That's the Irish in us. Exactly. Nick gets it. All right. Also, speaking of all that, speaking of all that,
Starting point is 01:45:13 hope life's good, Tony. We miss you, Tony. Miss you, Tony. Good Irishman, that Tony Diggs. Oh, he is. Truly. Great Irishman. Yep.
Starting point is 01:45:23 Tony McDiggs. Tony O'Degillio. Tony O'Degillio. Tony O'Degillio. That's right. He's a great dad, I bet. Oh, I'm sure. Probably crushed. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:33 He's rolling on the ground making little baby noises. I bet he's awesome. And I assume that the iPads are still set up for all the games while he's doing this entire thing.
Starting point is 01:45:41 Hunt winners. Said you don't have to. He did tweet, I think, on Sunday or maybe last week. You don't have to wake up and hunt winners if you never fall asleep. Joining us now is a man who is an incredible athlete, just drained a bucket that won 13 random people $500, and now he will make us smarter at football.
Starting point is 01:46:02 Host of Everything DB, nine-year NFL vet, Darius Butler. Hey, boys. That a baby. As usual. Oh, your mic isn't on. Mic isn't on. Oh, shit. Did you turn it on, dude?
Starting point is 01:46:14 Did you? I didn't touch it, Nick. This guy makes one basketball shot and then he just. Green light still on? That might be it. It says it's on. There we go. Now you're on.
Starting point is 01:46:25 Sounds like Nick hits him. All right. There we go. Now you're on. Sounds like Nick hits him. When he muted all their mics back there. So he could say I forgot that. You still good?
Starting point is 01:46:32 Yeah, you're good. All right. Oh, yeah. You sound real. Hey, who fixed it? How it got fixed? That sounds really good. Hey, as usual, chime
Starting point is 01:46:40 in whenever I ask whatever question. I actually watched it back. I saw you taking some notes fucking last week. Quiet defense is a dead defense. question. I actually watched it back. I saw you taking some notes fucking last week. Quiet defense is a dead defense. I like it, man.
Starting point is 01:46:49 But let's get into it. Some big plays from the weekend this past weekend. Obviously some good from the defensive side of the ball. And some bad. Way to go, Ty. Paying attention in the meeting room, you asswipe. Hey, watch Ty. Young players, take notes in the meeting room.
Starting point is 01:47:06 But this is a big, huge thing. My head's right here. Yeah, bingo. Game. Photographed from everyone. I'm taking notes. From the, I don't want to read this because I got a fucking iPad. Game winning play from the Colts this weekend.
Starting point is 01:47:17 Obviously, big home win. The guys were there. Went to 1-1-1 against the Chiefs. This is a huge moment in the game. Seven seconds left on the clock. Couple times now for the Chiefs. is a huge moment in the game Seven seconds left on the clock Couple times now for the Chiefs They got to get in field goal range And send this thing into overtime
Starting point is 01:47:29 This is basically man-to-man Let's see if we can Do they have an empty check there in Indianapolis? Most likely But you'll see it's going to look like Just man-to-man across the board Or cover three Regardless of single high or tight matches They're going to watch They're going to look like just man-to-man across the board or covered three. Regardless, single high with tight matches.
Starting point is 01:47:45 They're going to watch. They're going to have two guys for Travis Kelsey. You're going to see this play unfold. This play is actually going to be made by Gilmore down at the bottom on Juju. Let me just light it. Yeah. Boom. So tight match.
Starting point is 01:48:00 It'll be a slant route. He's going to break it up. Safety running to the ball. Tips and overthrows. Defenses, we always talk about it. We do the tip drill in practice. Send us home. Big, huge, huge win.
Starting point is 01:48:11 Defense played great. Offense, they got it done when they needed to. Loved this play. Had to get to it. Had to show my Colts some love. We can go to the next one. Hold on, D-Bot. So why'd they go man-to-man, you think, in this situation?
Starting point is 01:48:22 Because don't the Chiefs just got dogs everywhere? Tight match. You got to have tight coverage here because you don't want to give up. You can't give up a 10-yard catch here. Like the Bills, 13 seconds left. Obviously, Chiefs, Andy Reid, Eric B. And me, Patrick Mahomes are great in situational football. They just really – and their kicker stunk this game, right?
Starting point is 01:48:39 Yeah, they probably had no confidence in their kicker. But you got to get tight matches here. You can't play soft and give them a decent shot at a field goal. So tight matches. This is why you brought Gilmore over. Matt Ryan made plays late. And this is why you brought Steph Gilmore over to make plays like this. Game-winning plays on Juju Smith-Schuster.
Starting point is 01:48:56 He had a massive tackle on a third down, too, against Travis Kelsey. Kept him like a yard short. And it was like the tackle was like a – he took a shot. I didn't know that Gilmore – it was like a big time. Yeah, it was very physical. He had a little injury. He came back in this game. He got knocked out of this game for a little bit, came back,
Starting point is 01:49:13 and obviously finished with a big play here. So this was huge. Was it on that tackle that he got hurt, I wonder? I'm not sure. Did they mess up the routes on these ones? Because Juju takes like a stutter step. It didn't look like he thought – I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:49:24 I think this was kind of like, so you'll see on the inside, if you watch Kenny Moore, you'll see he's, this is going to be like low rock, but he's going to go right behind. I wouldn't say they messed up though. This is just good, tight coverage, sticky coverage. Once again, two of our best cover guys. I mean, that's not a bad throw. It's just
Starting point is 01:49:39 a great play from a former defensive player of the year. This is why we brought five over here. Let's get to the next one. What do we got here? What we got here? What we got here? Okay, this is another game winner against Foxy's Lions. We're going to watch K.J. Osborne in the slot here, man. So he's in the slot.
Starting point is 01:49:56 And defensively, what they're doing on defense, they got this post-safety leaned all the way on top of this guy. And this guy is Justin Jeffersonerson let's see if we get a zoom here justin jefferson okuda on him as well but uh justin jefferson he's going to control that middle of the field safety he's going to be on top they also have a robber safety who's giving these guys inside help right so with inside help you gotta stay outside leverage and right here you'll see this is where this corner gets in trouble he loses that leverage obviously kirk oh let's see if i can get this one if i can get
Starting point is 01:50:30 this one and kirk's gonna see it and now we got that outside leverage and obviously with that let's see we got let's just let it play outside leverage give it can't give it up, can't happen in this point in the game, this situation in the game. Once again, knowing, we can run this from the top, knowing your assignment, knowing where to be, knowing your leverage, knowing where your help is. Where is your help in this play? It's all inside. Even if this guy is not, he's a body inside.
Starting point is 01:50:59 He may not be specifically helping you. He's a body inside, and you even got your post safety, so you have to keep your outside leverage as that's got to know what the hell just happened there. But play this again. Outside leverage. K.J. Osborne, cousin sees it, makes a throw. Too easy.
Starting point is 01:51:13 Too easy. Can't happen. Can't happen, Foxy. You lose focus in one second, and that's the game. I asked A.J. this, but how can a defense play good all game, then last two minutes they just shit the bed and allow a touchdown? We always talk about in the meeting room, it's 65 plays, 60 plays, and it really comes down to about four or five of them.
Starting point is 01:51:31 That's usually the difference in the game. It's really about focus. And once again, we always talk about is it us, is it them? I feel like this is an us thing. He lost leverage pretty quickly here. This wasn't like – it's not like Osborne hit him with an amazing you know route or stem this is just bad leverage you can't you can't have it you can't have not there right there you can't have you see right now he's inside he's already crossed over hips or face hips are locked
Starting point is 01:51:54 facing inside like this is a touchdown right here at this point when any quarterback especially captain kirk out there not on prime time well well well he has one prime time remember that's a new thing i think an interesting point here that i just learned is that looks like wide open you out there, not on prime time. Well, he has one on prime time. Remember, that's a new thing. I think an interesting point here that I just learned is that looks like wide open. You think everything's fucked. Guy takes, what, two steps the wrong way. Yeah, one bad step. And this is a good route by Osborne, but once again, not a great route.
Starting point is 01:52:17 But if he stays outside, I don't know. Let's just imagine that defender outside leverage. I don't know where Kirk goes with this ball because, once again, you got deep help over Jefferson, and then you have this guy who's just kind of robbing the middle of the field. So I don't know where Kirk would go with this ball, but, hey, you can't have it. You can't have it, Foxy. You can't have it.
Starting point is 01:52:35 So Kuda back because he's been playing pretty well. It seemed like the first couple years he wasn't. Yeah, Kuda's playing some good ball. So number three pick coming out of Ohio State. And coming out of Ohio State, he has some of the best college technique. Hold on. Also, I remember him fucking, didn't he run on that? Yes.
Starting point is 01:52:50 He ran on a straight line and did the hip thing. Yeah. And they had the camera. It was a perfect angle on the camera. It was like, hey, this is how this rep is done. Flip hips, flip hips, turn. He was like the prospect, right? Yeah, it's the reason he went three overall.
Starting point is 01:53:03 You know, to a team that needed a bunch. Obviously, obviously with the lions you go number three overall with a cornerback obviously they're very high on them went out last year with a achilles injury i believe so this is a big year for him he started out strong these first three weeks he's been really really good changed his number ohio state dog that might have you put that one back on you run it out of the tunnel a little bit different but how much of that do you think has to do with the defensive coordinator being a former player and everything, as opposed to, you know, Patricia, which I think a lot of people didn't get along with him? You know, it's that. It's your coach.
Starting point is 01:53:35 It's your room. It's some other good players in that room. But it's your coach. And it's also you being a pro. I talked to Shep when he was here for Hard Knocks when we were out there for that training camp practice. Linebacker Coach Shep. Yeah, Linebacker Coach Shep. You saw here for Hard Knocks when we were out there for that training camp practice. Linebacker Coach Shep. Yeah, Linebacker Coach Shep. You saw him on Hard Knocks a lot.
Starting point is 01:53:48 But he said Jeff had been doing more kind of off the field, studying, preparing for games. And that's what it's about when you become a pro. It's not just about athleticism and how quick you can flip your hip. It's about the little things, leverage, knowing how you're going to get attacked. And they're doing a good job scheme-wise too. I know in this game with Jefferson, there were times where they said, hey, go be aggressive, get in his face.
Starting point is 01:54:06 We'll have some help over the top at times, and then you make a play when you need to. So that's what Okuda was doing. This is – Let's go, Jeff. Sorry about it, Foxy. So last week, one of the big things we talked about was finding number three, right, in zone coverage.
Starting point is 01:54:22 And this is empty. So this is one, two on the outside end and you got one two and this is three all right so is that how i like right yeah so this is number three right here so you're going to find this middle of the field logan wilson he's showing pressure right now but he's going to drop out in this cover too he's going to get that nickel blitz and we got to point that out too we got a nickel, this is basically a nickel Two, right So nickel's coming off the edge
Starting point is 01:54:50 Ooh, is that Hilton? Nickel's coming off the edge, but you got Logan Wilson This is the guy to watch, just watch him play Because this is the passing strength, you got a receiver out here Watch him play this middle Run through, so right now he's there He fills the route, at this point He's in great position, he can look back At this point, he's in great position.
Starting point is 01:55:08 He can look back at this quarterback and Joey Footstep's going to throw it right to him. I mean, that's a great, great rep from a linebacker. That's exactly what you want from your middle field read. Because cover two, we always talk about the two half, right? The two half defenders. That's why I call it cover two. You're talking about these guys. But this guy is just as important. Knowing where that guy is pre-snap, so it's not something you have to figure out. He knew exactly where he needed to go before the ball was ever snapped. Even though he lined up on the line of scrimmage, he was able to get an interception 20, 30 yards downfield.
Starting point is 01:55:39 So shout out to Wilson. He had that ticky-tack flag in the Super Bowl. A lot of people remember him on Cooper Cup. This is a big-time play from a big-time player. AJ, you like that? That was an unbelievable play. Watching in person, I was watching the ground he covered, too. He's showing mugged in the A-gap, and he gets a pick, what, 35 yards down the field.
Starting point is 01:55:56 He plays this exactly how you should. I thought it was awesome. I wish he would have scored, actually. Yeah, that's super impressive. Just like AJ said, showing that mug look in the A-gap. Where does he pick this ball off of? Let's super impressive. Just like AJ said, showing that mug look in the A-gap. And to make this – where does he pick this ball off of? Let's see exactly. 45.
Starting point is 01:56:10 No. Dang. That's a lot. That's a lot. That's a lot of ground. That's for Urlacher and them. When the Bears were rolling with cover two, Urlacher was the absolute king of that middle reader.
Starting point is 01:56:20 And then, obviously, Lance Briggs sitting in the hooker. Are you kidding me? They had so many studs that just went after the ball and made you take little easy check on the ball. And eventually you're going to make a mistake. Ball scaredy, job scaredy. Awesome punch at the end of that play too. It was.
Starting point is 01:56:36 Got to secure that ball. You get it. But that's a great play by Wilson. And this next play, this is going to be another cover two play. Big, huge play in the game. Fourth quarter, third and 22 dolphins didn't have a ton of snaps on offense two didn't have a lot of throws but this is the biggest one you're going to see waddle down here at the bottom of the screen but now cover two again so once again
Starting point is 01:56:57 where is number three where is the passing strength in this situation the passing strength is up here this is three this is the passing strength right heel receiver tight end so where is this linebacker going to go he's going to go up here so watch where he goes he's going to play and once again he's that middle field run through defender right but now he's up top of his passing strength this guy's going to run the hook and sit him right here intentionally this is a play design this is a perfect design because while that's happening Tyree I happening, Jalen Waddell is setting up this safety with an outside move. He's got him outside.
Starting point is 01:57:29 Now look at all this space you have in the middle of the field. Tua does a great job. He sees it. He throws it. This is the same coverage. Different, obviously different passing strength. The linebacker is going to drop to a different place. Different route concepts. Can I get it again from the top? Different route concept. Once again, finding number three out of the huddle. For the linebacker is going to drop to a different place different route concepts can i get it again from the top different route concept but once again finding
Starting point is 01:57:47 number three out of the huddle so for this linebacker this is all formation but this is a great play call by mcdaniel putting the passing strength up here knowing that expecting this coverage because you got a lot of young corners out there like young corners young safety entire new secondary for the buffalo bill so put them in a situation where you got a safety one-on-one with Jalen Waddell. And once again, we saw earlier a couple weeks ago with Justin Jefferson in safety. That's not a position you want to be in. And this is a great ball from Tua, you know, fighting through a back injury. D-Butt.
Starting point is 01:58:18 Yeah, we were on that back again. Whoever was running up at the top, watch him pivot out up towards the other sideline, up at the top of your screen to kind of take the backer and make him sit like just another foot so he doesn't get in the way of waddles uh which path here uh running i'll show you here watch edmunds he stops here right in the middle watch the guy pivot back out up towards the bill sideline so he doesn't sink back in and get in the throne okay yeah yeah so yeah so he's pivoting what aj's talking about right here is this number three receiver pivoting away from that middle run through defender. And once he stops his feet, he got no chance of getting out here.
Starting point is 01:58:50 You know, he would have to do exactly what Logan Wilson did, basically, which is turn around and just run. And know exactly what you're doing. Because you're a linebacker running with the wide receiver. That's already a speed mismatch. But if you know where you're going and you can beat that player to the spot, it's good ball. But this is good offensive play calling. Is that beaters is that what people this is a coverage beater this is a coverage beater because that's what that linebacker is coach to do go to the passing strength take the middle run through once he sits down you have to sit down and then that backside x which is away from the passing strength he's got time to set up
Starting point is 01:59:21 that safe so play calling this is super sophisticated call this is super sophisticated play calling so they had to be banking d but weren't they they had to be banking on they were saying all right i think we're gonna get tampa too here right exactly absolute beater of that exactly i don't think it matters like if poyer and hyde are out there like they would but either one of them would have had to make an exceptional play to stop that play design yeah i think port the thing about pouring a high on third and 22 they maybe give themselves a little more depth out of the gate right because you know as once again the sticks this is the first down marker up here so the 30 yard line will be the first down marker so you get yourself that so now you don't have to necessarily respect that out that outside move that waddle makes here right you don't have to necessarily respect that outside move that Waddle makes here.
Starting point is 02:00:05 You don't have to. Because you can tackle. You want to move because you have depth. You're playing that top down. And once again, youth. This is a young corner. You're in a flat. 46.
Starting point is 02:00:14 Get deeper. Sink deeper. The first down marker is here. Sink deeper because if you sink deeper as this corner, that gives him a little more comfort to settle down there instead of having to respect that. And this is just, I mean, once again, this is a good ball. It's a coverage beater.
Starting point is 02:00:28 And that's where the ball is thrown and located like that. That's a great, great, great play design from Mike McDaniel. Great play design. And then a great throw and execution from Tua and Waddle. We should take Dolphins more seriously, we think. McDaniel knows they're going to be in coverage. I guess third and 22 are probably going to be in coverage too, right? I assume McDaniel's doing that. And he goes,
Starting point is 02:00:46 alright, so how do we beat that? Oh, easy. We just fucking run that one. Let's call it. And that's why play calling matters, right? Play calling matters. Design matters. Something that my co-host on NFL matchup, Greg Cosell, always says it's how pal. Design matters. So this is play design. Knowing what you're going to get
Starting point is 02:01:01 from the defensive standpoint. And then knowing what you got on your players too. because you know you got a guy fast enough to go out there, do an out-breaking route, and get to the middle of the field because Buffalo, I don't care what coverage they're running in the back end, they still got dogs up front. This play takes time to develop. A lot of times on third and 22 in this situation, offenses go with a screen, with a draw, maybe try to get in the field goal range, but they say, you know what,
Starting point is 02:01:24 we're going to drop our nuts and try to get a big play here. Fuck it. And they got one. That a baby, Tua. There we go, Tua. Don't put that right on your face, AJ. That's why we all wanted a power ranking, man. Still getting disrespected Thursday night.
Starting point is 02:01:36 Don't understand that. Three and a half points. Yeah, man. We'll see. We'll see. Bengals are in the Super Bowl. What we got next? White Tiger uniforms.
Starting point is 02:01:45 Oh, we getting some Sertain tapes. So a lot of people, a lot of, you should pay attention when other DBs, current and former, are talking about a specific guy. When players publicly speak highly on players, pay attention. And every corner, every DB, everybody that talks about cornerback play, Patrick Sertain has been one of the best in the business from day one. Shouldn't be a surprise. Got coached by his pops, Patrick Sertain, the first.
Starting point is 02:02:14 Dolphins legend. Coached him up in high school, sent a lot of guys to the pro. Then he goes to Nick Saban in Alabama, gets coached up. But this is one of the cleanest prospects coming out in a while. You'll see him right here with some text. Forget the rest of the cleanest prospects coming out in a while. You'll see him right here with some text. But I just don't forget the rest of the coverage. Just watch Sertain's, just his technique right here. Stan Square in his pedal.
Starting point is 02:02:32 Watch the route. Great break. I mean, that's like, that's textbook. Are you kidding me? Like, that's like, that's literally clinic tape, individual work. Against Brandon Ayoub, who's a good route runner. Look at his feet. Look at his feet, man.
Starting point is 02:02:44 He's so, like, such good balance, and he's in control, not panicking ever. Yeah, like, this is a second-year player, like, I want to pause it a little bit more. Let me go on. Alright, here we go. I just got to show how, like, you got to be so patient, like, to, he's still in it. He's never got out his pedal, and he's 15
Starting point is 02:03:01 yards down the field. So that's not normal. That's not normal to be that patient. I mean, big time speed obviously but to have because there's no i mean you look at behind him like there's no safety help it's not like this is like some type like this is this is green grass back here so to have that type of confidence in your technique and your ability to go out and put it on tape week in week out like he does he matched up with dk metcalf week one follow him all around the field, moved around on week two, and then he was moving from IU, Debo, and George Kittle in this game. And, you know, not a guy you want to throw into his coverage at all.
Starting point is 02:03:32 He can come up and tackle. He can play zone. He can play press. He can play off. His next rep is actually going to be a rep of him playing press. Seems to be a dog, too. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:39 Dog, dog. So he's a corner. Like, this is like an out-of-the-park draft pick right here for our Denver Broncos. This is him down here in the bottom once again. Giraffe pick? I'm saying when you draft. Giraffe. Yeah, when you draft a guy like that.
Starting point is 02:03:52 What are you? I thought it was like intercepting the ball with his neck. That's what I thought he actually meant. What's your problem? So what the hell are we talking about? They knocked this pick out of the park. But this is him in press coverage, third and three. Draft pick.
Starting point is 02:04:04 Okay. Excuse me. So this is hard but this is him in press coverage, third and three. Draft pick. Okay. Excuse me. So this is hard. This is a hard press, right? So we're going to be a little more physical at the line of scrimmage. It's third and three. And once again, rock solid technique from the beginning to the end of the down. Top of the route, no separation.
Starting point is 02:04:18 No separation. I mean, he's running his route, and this is once again from a hard press. So you saw him in off, right? You saw him in press. Typically corners, they're better with one or the other. They're hard press. You saw him in off. You saw him in press. Typically, corners, they're better with one or the other. They're just press guys or they're just off guys. I can get it from the top, but this guy can do it all. This is a
Starting point is 02:04:31 hard press right here. Great technique from beginning to end. Aiyuk can never create separation and is down. Great play. Whenever you think about this, because I think I can control this a little bit too over here, which is pretty sweet.
Starting point is 02:04:46 That is awesome. Yeah, it is pretty sweet. He never gives him, right, like if you look at the space, he's on him, glued to him the entire time, right? He runs the route for him. He runs his route for him. He is, there is zero separation. No separation. And that's what quarterbacks are talking about with wide receivers,
Starting point is 02:05:03 how maybe they create a little bit of separation or they do that. That's what separates the great corners from everybody else, like zero fucking separation. The whole day, it's like that the whole day. The whole day. Iuke's got to be so miserable. Yeah. Think about how miserable that has to be.
Starting point is 02:05:17 How annoying would that be? You think about separation. There's nothing you can really do. Yeah, that's it. You think about week one with DK. DK, I think, had like six catches for like 30-something yards. And every catch he had was like, it has to be a great throw and a great catch. And that's what you want as a corner.
Starting point is 02:05:31 You're going to give up some. But for Pat Sertain, if he gives up a play, it's usually damn near a perfect throw or a perfect catch. And actually, you're going to see on the next rep with Pat Sertain. That is the most amount of room. This entire play. This entire play. Third and three. That is in between them. You know what? On the other side of the room, this entire play. This entire play. That is in between them.
Starting point is 02:05:45 You know what? On the other side of the field, let's see. So this is where Jimmy G, this is probably not the matchup you should be looking at. And up top, we got a bunch wrong. And we got terrible communication on the back end. And the guy that you just paid $100 million is going to end up. Jesus. Oh, no.
Starting point is 02:06:03 Wide open for six. I'll be wide open for six. It looks like – maybe this is fake, but it looks like Jimmy G. Let me get back out. It looks like Jimmy G is looking that way, but for some reason doesn't throw it. Decides to come here. And, I mean, obviously a bad decision. But walk-in touchdown if you throw it up there to Debo
Starting point is 02:06:21 because of the bad communication. I wonder if – what, you think he's looking at Kittle? I don't know what. Underneath here? Debo's what? What do you think, AJ? Because, look, it's only, what is it, third and two? Third and three, yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:32 Look at the sticks. Yeah, so he's not thinking Debo's going to come free. Yeah, he should have. I mean, but, yeah, you got to look at that. That's bad communication. That's a whole other video for another day for what Denver could do up there communication-wise or should do. But Jimmy's got to see that, obviously.
Starting point is 02:06:47 That's not the throw or the matchup you want to go to in this next play. Certain guy. A guy. You know, a guy, a guy. So top two, three in the league already. Damn, stop throwing at him. Yeah, stop throwing at him at this point. He's following number one receivers for a reason.
Starting point is 02:07:02 Now, we saw off technique. We saw hard press, and this is second and nine. And this is more of a soft press. So this is more of a I'm kind of going to play you with my feet, right? I'm fast enough to wherever release you take, I'll just run with you and kind of feel you and then force. So this one, Ayuk is going to give him an outside release. So just patient. So now, okay, I'm sitting inside for a slant because I'm on the backside, right?
Starting point is 02:07:26 Everything's away from me, so I'm protecting my inside. But now I know you're running vertical. So now I just run with you, right? I just run with you, and I squeeze you to the sideline as much as possible. And now this quarterback has to make a perfect throw. Can I get this from the back copy? He's going to have to make a perfect throw. There's not much room over there at all.
Starting point is 02:07:42 You'll see it for Jimmy G. Now, quarterbacks can make this throw. Oh, just not Jimmy? Wow., quarterbacks can make this throw. Oh. Just not Jimmy? Wow. They said Jimmy can make these throws. I mean, you got to be able to make that one, right?
Starting point is 02:07:55 Because you know that red line we have in the practice field? Yeah. It's kind of where that NFL shield is right there. And that red line is usually you have receivers. They try to run up that red line and control it. So they give their quarterback room to throw them outside to throw them. But great coverage. This is a long foul ball that Pat Sertain forces.
Starting point is 02:08:17 And then on this next and last play, we're going to see Jalen Hurts with a very similar look, similar play. This is Jalen Hurts playing. As good as Pat Sertain is playing on defense, Hurts is playing on offense. So this is going to see the middle high safety, man-to-man coverage across the board. But this is the matchup we're watching. Down here at the bottom of the screen, Devontae Smith kind of had his coming out party. So right here, Devontae, I want to show you his pace first. Pace coming off the ball.
Starting point is 02:08:40 I'm going to play this one full speed. Just watch it. He kind of loads in the sleeve. Then he just hits the gear. Boom. Bang. Then once again bang same thing almost the same throw right what a ball this is the difference let me see from the back copy this is the difference from average quarterback play and big time quarterback play so jalen hurts obviously what he can do with his legs everybody know but what he's been doing from the pocket with his arms,
Starting point is 02:09:06 obviously this is an easy read, single high man-to-man across the board. But this throw right here, this is a big-time throw. And I think what you're saying, Darius, here is – This is a big-time throw. This is high outside cornerback. He's in a pretty decent position. But, I mean, look at that ball location. Like, look at that ball location. Like, look at that ball location.
Starting point is 02:09:27 You couldn't hand it to him better than that. That's pretty. And that's what Jalen Hurts, like, looking at his tape, there's so much of his tape that is just efficient from his body mechanics, from his reads, pre-snap, and then obviously from his throws. Offensive line, they did a great job putting some big guys in front of him that can protect him, give him that time. And then going out and getting dogs, drafting D. Smith,
Starting point is 02:09:46 and then trading for A.J. Brown has been working outstanding for him so far. It seems like the reason why you showed that might be because, hey, that's great coverage. Sometimes they're just saying shit you could do. People are probably talking about the Washington Commanders DBs right now because Devontae had such a big game. It's like, yeah, sometimes
Starting point is 02:10:01 same exact coverage, previous play, other game, quarterback doesn't sometimes they same exact coverage previous play other game quarterback doesn't make throw great coverage this is unbelievable coverage this one same exact coverage quarterback makes the throw that you can't defend it's like bad coverage some people were saying it's like hey sometimes they're saying shit you could do especially in football right and these are dudes it was other plays in here where he kind of gave um gave Devontae a chance it was like a double team you Jump ball. Jump ball. But these are players.
Starting point is 02:10:29 Dee Slate came out saying, look, we got three Batmans at receiver. We got swole Batman, A.J. Brown, skinny Batman, Devontae Smith, and then fast Batman with Watkins. And they're all making plays, and the quarterback is making throws, man. These are dudes. You know, Hurts is playing like an MVP right now. And this guy, Devontae Smith, this was a Heisman winner. A lot of people forget this so he goes up he's a small guy we remember T.Y. playing with T.Y. it didn't matter who was
Starting point is 02:10:50 lined up across from T.Y. was coming down with that ball more times than not so great plays right here why do you think the narrative was that Hurts stinks throwing the football because that's what it was last year is he's obviously explosive running but like has he really gotten that much better year over year well number one yes his mechanics are are night and day um from from uh rookie year to this year and then to the third year every year he's taking a step kind of what you've seen with josh allen but the same thing with josh allen is coaching matters play design matters for calls but then talent talent matters too like that matters a fucking lot you go outJ. Brown. You go out and get Devontae Smith. Even Quez Watkins, having him in there. Dallas Goddard has been a baller.
Starting point is 02:11:29 And then having an offensive line in front of you where you can operate from a clean pocket and really go through your process. And then when it does break down, I can use my legs and get outside of the pocket. He ran for 10 touchdowns last season. So, it was that. And then, obviously, what we saw at Bama when he got benched for Tua, basically because couldn't throw the ball around the yard like Tua could so he was a it was a run first team and then he went to Oklahoma where yeah you got to make kind of different level type of reads in that Lincoln Raleigh offense so I think it's all working for him he's had great coaches in the off season he went out to Cali I believe and worked with the guy for I believe I don't want to say
Starting point is 02:12:05 how many times but he is paying off and every you turn on the film and you see the process and a lot of times with quarterbacks especially athletic quarterbacks you just want to you just throw it you know you just throw it you get your body in whatever position but when you can actually tie that shit together and make your reads and make good throws good accurate throws from a good base you're going to get what you get from Jalen Hurts, man. Wired right, leadership wise, all his teammates, coaches have always raved about it. Even when he got benched at Bama, you can still visibly a great teammate going to Oklahoma,
Starting point is 02:12:35 do great things, got drafted, took over for Carson. And I mean, the sky's the limit for this Eagles team. Yeah, you know, Jalen and Tua, two undefeated quarterbacks, same quarterback room. That's right. In Alabama. We appreciate the hell out of you. That was everything DB. Yeah, you know, Jalen and Tua, two undefeated quarterbacks, same quarterback room. That's right. In Alabama. We appreciate the hell out of you. That was everything DB.
Starting point is 02:12:47 Hell yeah, DB. All right, that's been a Wednesday, September 28th show, I believe. Darius already made a shot from earlier, giving away 13 random $500 cash app transfers because Darius Butler-Bank shot that thing home. Got a game tomorrow. Got a game tomorrow. Got a game tomorrow. Cincinnati favored by three and a half at home in the new white
Starting point is 02:13:08 bangle stripe uniform. Paycor. Hosting the Dolphins in Paycor Stadium. This is the first time Paycor has been under the lights. That's right. First time. The bubble is up now, too. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:20 The bubble looks amazing. The bubble looks amazing. Are they inside yet, or is it still just the out? They just inflated it. Well, the fact that Cincinnati hadn't been able to get this, okay? I don't want to pile on because we do have a bubble. Sure. They made it happen.
Starting point is 02:13:37 Thank you for that. About time. They should name this after you. What's the problem? I don't want this named after me. Tim McAfee and the boys could have done this two, three weeks, any of the years over the last 50 where they didn't have one. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:13:54 They should paint that thing or put some sponsorship on it. Duquesne University where Tone Diggs. Congrats on baby Tone. Congrats, Tony. Congrats, Father Diggs. Congrats on Father Diggs. Yeah, Father Tone. Congrats, Father T Congrats, Father Diggs. Congrats on Father Diggs. Yeah, Father Tone. Congrats, Father Tone.
Starting point is 02:14:07 He went to Duquesne University. And the way he says it is that Duquesne would be an Ivy League school if there was more grass on the campus. That's right. Now, that has been found not to be true at all. But it's not like a big powerhouse sports. They got a good basketball team. They got a good football team.
Starting point is 02:14:23 But it's like D2, D3. They have had this same exact bubble. I grew up playing soccer in the 90s in their campus, which is directly above a jail, okay, in downtown Pittsburgh. Tough to find land there. They've had this bubble in there for 30-some years, this same exact one. So I'm pumped that they led the way almost for Cincinnati
Starting point is 02:14:42 kind of doing the same thing. Congrats, Cincy. Put some fucking tiger stripes on that thing. That's it. Yeah, make the white bangle a full-time thing. What do we say? Put a head on it, too. And a tail.
Starting point is 02:14:54 It's laying down. Now we're talking. Now we are talking. Now the bubble is no longer a bubble. What is it? It's a fucking bangle bubble. Yeah. Boom.
Starting point is 02:15:05 Yeah. You're welcome. That'd be dope. You is it? It's a fucking bangle bubble. Yeah. Boom. Yeah. You're welcome. That'd be dope. You can even put little side legs on it. Exactly. And that's where people can put their shoes and stuff. Anything. Tyson still got his bangle?
Starting point is 02:15:15 The white tiger? I don't think so. Got another one? I'm not sure. I don't know. Yeah, who do you give it back to or who do you sell it to? Yeah, Tiger King. Joe Exotic.
Starting point is 02:15:24 Yeah. Hopefully not the guy in Zanesville. Oh, not the guy in Zanesville. I'm not sure. Who do you give it back to or who do you sell it to? Tiger King. Hopefully not the guy in Zanesville. Not the guy in Zanesville who went crazy and released all the animals and they're running across I-70. Hopefully not the guy in Zanesville. Hopefully not an Ohio guy. Bogovon, maybe. Bogovon down there in Carolina. I think that's where he's at.
Starting point is 02:15:40 Maybe him. Maybe that lady who was suing him. Not Carol Baskin. She still got her cat sanctuary going. She does. Really? Don't say it. She's been suing people.
Starting point is 02:15:51 Yeah. What? So I won't. What are other people saying, Con? It was all allegations. It was all allegations. Well, they are saying she's, you know, a couple bad weeks away from killing her next husband. But, again.
Starting point is 02:16:04 That guy was mouthful. Allegations, allegations, allegations, allegations. Tyson still has two tigers. Tyson still has two tigers. He had to get rid of one last year because he got in an incident with a neighbor. So he had three tigers. One tiger killed a kid. Had to get rid of that tiger, but kept
Starting point is 02:16:18 the other two. These are good tigers. These tigers seem to be a little bit more tame. Sorry about it. We always had a problem with that one We were looking for a reason actually So thank you Sorry about your kid by the way What is an incident with a neighbor with a fucking jungle cat
Starting point is 02:16:35 I know What do you mean It was an incident in his neighborhood I misread that What's the incident though Same thing The question isn't about whether or not it was a neighbor The question is It was an incident in his neighborhood. I misread that. What's the incident, though? Same thing. The question isn't about whether or not it was a neighbor. The question is, what was the incident?
Starting point is 02:16:49 You have an incident with a tiger and human beings. Typically, I think you just assume it did not end well. Yeah. Fair. Maybe it peed on something. Maybe. Maybe it marked it. Ate somebody's flowers.
Starting point is 02:17:01 Yeah. A massive dump. The catnip for those jungle cats that we know is poinsettias. And there was a bunch of poinsettias in the neighbor's yard. So that cat was getting a little sniff, getting a little sniff, and then went over and just ate all of them. Ate a neighbor's dog, maybe. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:17:19 I hope. Oh, no. That's probably more likely, yes. What about the poinsettias? Yeah, poinsettias makes more sense. That sounds plausible. Could you imagine Tyson's tiger eat your dog?
Starting point is 02:17:32 What a heartbreaker. Walk out of your door. Bricks in your house. Go get some groceries. What was that? There was a line in Morgantown loose because the circus came to town over the weekend and won't go away.
Starting point is 02:17:43 Send an email to us. Heads up. There's a fucking king of the jungle roaming the city. Be careful. It's like, all right. That's great news. A fucking lion? Is this thing just fucking up in a tree?
Starting point is 02:17:56 Is it going to be walking around town? Like, do we need to be prepared to leave our house and pissed offline because you guys have been treating this lion like shit? I'll like a little bit more information. Never going to follow up. Never going to follow up. They find it? News is in.
Starting point is 02:18:12 I don't know about the lion in Morgantown, but it was not a tiger pet incident. Oh, nice. It was a tiger potentially gnawing an arm off of somebody. That's going to happen from time to time. In the neighborhood?
Starting point is 02:18:28 I think if you have a pet tiger, there's a chance that's going to happen. Okay, so later on in the story, the person jumped over the fence. See, this is just like the monkey in the Halloween. Texas. That's right, the Texas thing. He started to play with the tiger. Harambe. Harambe, same thing.
Starting point is 02:18:45 Like that orangutan that made the draft pick, right? If you jump in his cage, all bets are off. Talking about Rocky? Whatever that thing is, you guys show. Rocky the orangutan. It's not an orangutan, by the way. Be cultured for one second. Is he 150 years old? How old is that? Rocky, I think
Starting point is 02:19:01 in captive orangutan years, each year is maybe 30 years. At least. Oh, yeah. I'm not sure. Oh, yeah. If you jump in Rocky's cage, he's not doing anything because I've been to the Indianapolis Zoo. I've seen him.
Starting point is 02:19:17 He hates his life so much. If you go in there, he's probably saying, like, please shoot me in the head. Kill me. Fucking end my pain. Just one. Connor actually went to the zoo the other day. He got to experience rocking the orangutans for the first time. It's weird because when you look them in the eye
Starting point is 02:19:32 it seems like you're kind of looking at Simpatico. Is that what you said the other day? Yeah. It seems like when you make eye contact there's just something about it like that orangutan is miserable right there. You know what they're saying. They still have the one just in the box by a very small box by himself and he's
Starting point is 02:19:49 just laying there baking in the sun and just sitting there people coming up and smacking on the window saying hey wake up fucker yeah it's sad should have seen the rhinos yeah but we get you know there's zoos couldn't tell what zoos do good things, too. Of course. You know, they help extend lives. They breed those animals. Feed them. Species alive. Yeah, he looks real happy.
Starting point is 02:20:14 He was not making that face when we went. Get me out of here. I love Rocky. So do I. I like to think that during his draft pick, he did it bad on purpose as a protest. Probably. They're like, all right, hit the thing. He's like, oh, is that right?
Starting point is 02:20:30 Yeah. No thanks. Maybe. I need you to hit the thing. Ten seconds, Rocky. Go fuck yourself. This is my time. Remember when you made me just poop right in the same room I was sitting in?
Starting point is 02:20:42 Yeah. Five seconds, Rocky. Come on. Oh, is this going to affect you guys? Uh-oh. Oh, sorry about it. You guys have to go home to a cage? Oh, you want to hit this button here?
Starting point is 02:20:52 What if I scroll to the next screen? Oh, what's going to happen now? Come on, Rocky. Yeah. Come here, you little fucker. Jesus. Anyways, the zoo's awesome. It is. It is. Wildly overpriced, but it's awesome. It is a very nice zoo, though. Jesus. Anyways, the zoo's awesome. It is.
Starting point is 02:21:05 It is. Wildly overpriced, but it's awesome. It is a very nice zoo, though. There's a lot of things there. I mean, I didn't know they had penguins in Indiana. Awesome. That's cool. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:21:14 That was the saddest part to me. Why? They put out like a tray of ice to remind these penguins, you know, hey, you like living near, you know, the cold water and icebergs. See how much money they spend to keep that place refrigerated to the proper temperature so those penguins can live a great life? Do you know how much money? Every time you walk into that place, you are reminded how much.
Starting point is 02:21:33 It costs a lot to step foot into that zoo. It does. Not anymore. Think how much it costs to take care of one animal just for a year. Yeah, we learn from Joe Exotic. It's expensive to feed all those animals. Yeah, but they treat them like shit at the zoo, so I don't think they're spending that much time.
Starting point is 02:21:48 I don't think this is an accurate assessment of all of it. Not of all of it, but I mean, I know for a fact that those animals would pay 10x what it costs to keep them alive to kill them. Just from peeking in through the windows. I know that's how they feel. Some of the water was filthy. Fair assessment.
Starting point is 02:22:06 Are there elephants there? What do you think is going to happen to the water when they go in? Do you think it's going to remain clean? I assume they have to clean it or have some sort of filter now and then. You mentioned the orangutan thing. Poop everywhere. So sanctuaries, I think people view those differently than zoos, right? That's a massive area.
Starting point is 02:22:25 There's no cages. They're actually in the wild, per se. What'd you say, Zito? How much? $10,000 to $12,000 a day to take care of a zoo. Like a normal zoo. Not as much as I thought. In my head, I was thinking it.
Starting point is 02:22:37 Yeah. Way more, I thought. I was thinking a lot more. Is that all the employees, or is that just the food, too? Oh, actually, no. It says plus millions more. That's an elaborate thing. I don't know about daily.
Starting point is 02:22:53 I was going to say, there's been at least eight G's to bring in fucking Donato's pizza to the Indianapolis Zoo every day. That's the only way they're making any money outside of the admission. What are you talking about? They're selling Donato's pizza in there? Last time went yeah i was like i'll grab a slice of pizza okay eight inch pizza fucking 34 dollars are you kidding me i fucking ordered this from donato's right now it's fucking 11.99 how does that work gotta get some there. Yeah, had to do it. The zoo's a nice place, but there are some animals areas that I think anybody that walks through there goes, I'm kind of viewing these animals a little differently. Yeah, feel bad for them.
Starting point is 02:23:34 Reverse it, then think about it. What? We were in the cages. You're going to have Rocky running the zoo and you're going to sit in a cage? That's all he's thinking about. I know. I think it is good for going to sit in a cage. That's all he's thinking about. I know. I think it is good for people to see stuff, though. Definitely.
Starting point is 02:23:49 I think the zoo has benefits. If we didn't have zoos, Connor wouldn't believe a lot of the animals he saw in the zoo because he hasn't seen them with his own eyes. Yeah, and a lot of people like Connor would be like, well, that doesn't exist. Rhinos, that's funny. That doesn't exist. Well, we actually just saw one downtown. Well, I still don't know if I saw a live one because there's a massive chance all three of them were dead
Starting point is 02:24:09 because there's no water in the goddamn rhino exhibit. But also, Indiana casually has the rarest gazelle in the world hanging out in there. It's half, it's like, oh, I got a cool color. It's like silver. I'm like, all right, that doesn't seem real. Why does Indiana have the rarest gazelle in the planet?
Starting point is 02:24:28 Is that what everyone talks about in the zoo community? Oh, you gotta get to Indiana. You got the rarest gazelle in the world. That doesn't make sense. Why? That's how good the zoo is. Sounds like they just spray painted. They saved his life, probably. They spray painted half a gazelle and said,
Starting point is 02:24:43 Oh, look! Hey! The odd bird gazelle! Check it Oh, look, hey, the odd-bred gazelle. Check it out. That thing is awesome. Very cool. The plains are large. I believe the plains. Oh, yeah. The Badlands.
Starting point is 02:24:54 At the zoo. It is. It's a large area. It is. They get to open up the stride a little bit in the plains, it feels like. Yeah, but they share it with wildebeests and hyenas. It's like a sanctuary, though. It is.
Starting point is 02:25:04 The plains area feels like a sanctuary. It's bigger. It's the ones that are. In the zoo, you mean? it with Wildebeest and Hyenas. It's like a sanctuary, though. The Plains area feels like a sanctuary. It's bigger. It's the ones that are... In the zoo, you mean? This is part of the zoo? Yeah. The ones that are in, like, you can see the back and we see all of the space. And then you see the... Oh, yeah. Just the miserable animal. It's hard.
Starting point is 02:25:19 Like where the gorillas hang out and everything right by the glass. That's where you see these guys are pretty upset. The tigers, the lions. They have big space. Columbus, too, has big old space for the lions and tigers, though. Big old area for them. There might be like a show area and then like an open area.
Starting point is 02:25:35 Where they can roam. Not in Indianapolis. I think Indy just opened up the kangaroo ones. You could beat the shit out of them. They did open up the kangaroo. I don't know if anybody's fighting kangaroos. Do you wear headgear? No.
Starting point is 02:25:47 What do the arms do? How do they look? They're rock'em, sock'em robots. And then they bring those feet up and you're fucked, dude. You're done. Missile drop kicks. Imagine if it kicked you in the balls. One of those things.
Starting point is 02:26:03 Well, that takes us back to Josh Allen in the bottom of that ball. That's right. And that's kind of the message of today's show. Yep. Stay away from other people's dongs. Yeah. No more squeezing penises. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:26:13 If you're doing it, stop. Everybody agree? Unless they ask you to. Yep. I got it. No more dongs. All right. Team on me.
Starting point is 02:26:22 Team on two. One, two, three. Team. All right. That's the show. Hell yeah. See you guys tomorrow. We got football to talk about tomorrow. We got Coach P's keys tomorrow.
Starting point is 02:26:33 Let's go. Let's continue to do this week. And then maybe, just maybe, we'll find out more about where Hurricane Ian's headed. Bingo. Need to know. Positive vibes and thoughts and prayers and everything that I could possibly do from this particular studio in the middle of Indianapolis, Indiana. And I'll donate to any recovery fund as well whenever it comes about.
Starting point is 02:26:54 I do it basically every single storm. But anytime somebody says, like, thoughts, prayers, positive vibes, people go, don't send your positive thoughts and prayers. Okay, do something about it. Well, I don't know what the fuck else you want me to do. Okay? Do you want me to go down there and spear the hurricane? Do you want us to set up a fucking offensive line in the trenches from the hurricane?
Starting point is 02:27:13 We can't do that right now. So we would like to say, honestly, tonight, there will be plenty of times where we're watching the coverage of Hurricane Ian, where we'll be saying, God damn, that has to be fucking miserable to live through. So you're not alone. The rest of the country is thinking about you. I do believe Jim Cantor just got taken out by a tree. What? He's dead?
Starting point is 02:27:32 Breaking. Jim Cantor is live in Punta Gorda, Florida. What are you doing? Oh, what? Treeland, take him out. This is his Super Bowl. What are you talking about? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:27:42 Jim Cantor staring down a one-way metal post sign. Let me get in the way of that thing. Hold on to that, man. Trees have already taken him out. He's in a full forward lean. He's got the Cantor lean in the middle of this windstorm. Cameraman says, God damn it, I could have done anything else but follow Jim Cantor around.
Starting point is 02:28:02 And if we don't have somebody in the middle of this, will we ever really know what it's like? That's what Jim Cantor around. And if we don't have somebody in the middle of this, will we ever really know what it's like? That's what Jim Cantor asks himself every single day when tree limbs are taking him out. 110 miles per hour is the best. Just as a football show, we like to tell Jim Cantor, got to get both hands on that tree, kind of shove it aside, and shoot your knees in.
Starting point is 02:28:22 I would like to do this. Wouldn't you like to do this once just to see? Well, if they tell me at the end that nothing catastrophic is coming, I'll do it. But I think every time you're in one of these, there is a chance at the end of it it's going to get much worse. Storm surge, for instance. I don't know how Jim Cantor beats that.
Starting point is 02:28:35 I am happy he did withstand at least a half of a tree here. That hit him right in the shit. Well, and if he falls back, hold on. You're right. You've got to put his hand. You're right. Get your hips back. Don't let that thing get your legs. You got to put his hand. You're right. Get your hips back. Don't let that thing get your legs.
Starting point is 02:28:46 You need to get your hands on that, Cantor. Early. Boom. He saw it. I don't think he saw it coming. He can't see through that. Did you see him hopping, like getting ready for it?
Starting point is 02:28:53 Yeah, I think he ran directly in front of it. You know, Fraga trying to miss those things. He seen it at the corner of the eye. Give me that. Oh, he did. You're right. Just let it hit me.
Starting point is 02:29:01 What? When's the last time Cantor got to go one-on-one with the Oak One? You know, like when has Jim Cantor had a real opportunity on camera to fucking stare down a tree and say, I beat you? You know, and I think he could do that now, and that's why we thank Jim Cantor. Thank you, Jim.
Starting point is 02:29:18 We told Darius earlier that there is a breed of white that love this, you know, that'll go out in the middle of this type of shit and really test fate. Yep. And there's also the people that'll drive tornado trucks into tornadoes and stuff. Always seems to be white people, but I'm sure their footage will be something that we need for us all
Starting point is 02:29:36 to remain safer, so we appreciate it. Now if that street sign there gets loose, watch out, because that thing looks sharp on the one, and it will impale. Cut his head off. Or go right through his chest. Like this is the end. Michael Cera.
Starting point is 02:29:52 Let's hope that doesn't happen. All the positive thoughts and prayers to everybody down there. Stay safe. Stay safe. Teas and peas. Come on, let's beat Hurricane Ian's. I think we just gotta kind of withstand. I don't think we just got to kind of... We're staying. I don't think we beat him.
Starting point is 02:30:06 But the way we beat Hurricane Ian and everybody that's actually dealing with it right now, not us at all, we're saying we, it's not us, it's you guys. You beat Hurricane Ian by being the last one standing. Don't break. But if they're telling you to evacuate, get out of there.
Starting point is 02:30:21 Get the fuck out of there. Everybody said you should evacuate. Unless you're Jim Cantor, I guess. You stand in militaries. Yeah. Built it. Why is he there. Get the fuck out of there. Everybody said you should evacuate. Unless you're Jim Cantor, I guess you stand in militaries. Yeah. Built it. Why is he there? Did we talk about that enough?
Starting point is 02:30:29 Nick said it. What does he do when there's not a hurricane? Waits for the next one. That's what I'm saying. This is what he does. He waits until there's one of these things, then bam, we all ask for it. Tone Diggs is watching us talk about this right now, asking why he's doing it, and Tone is so pissed off. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:30:44 Oh, you think the world would be better off without Jim Cantor? You're wrong. Yeah. Diggs is watching us talk about this right now, asking why he's doing it, and Tony's so pissed off. Yeah. Oh, you think the world would be better off without Jim Cantor? You're wrong. Yeah. Diggs would say. Tony'd kill to be down there right now. Tony is one of the whites that would. 100%. Like to stare down a tree.
Starting point is 02:30:58 Oh, my God, I feel alive. High-fiving Jim Cantor right next to me. What storm just happened up north? Tony was outside looking up to the stars and sky just to see if he could catch a blizzard. I mean, that tornado. Yeah, the tornado. Oh, the warning. Yeah, the warning.
Starting point is 02:31:12 Listen, Tony doesn't even like to get his socks wet. He likes to talk a big game. I don't think he'd be veteran. Sorry, I'm here. Guy's a father. Come on. Guy's a father. I mean, he never had wet socks before.
Starting point is 02:31:22 Guy's a father. I don't like having wet socks either. No, never. No, no. Nobody likes it. Because we were talking about how miserable it is, and Tone says, I've actually never had wet socks. I haven't either.
Starting point is 02:31:32 Stood by it. Are you serious? Oh, yeah. He has stood by it, yeah. Stepped in a puddle the next day. All right. That's the program, I think. Hey.
Starting point is 02:31:43 Oh. Jeez. See you guys tomorrow. AJ, pal we appreciate you baby good show guys great work huh hey toxic table way to bring it today huh thank you russell wilson uh dorsal fin ball way to bring it today how are you dorsal fin see if you can put that in the hoop let's go to subway is he's to break the glass? I don't know if it's going to get anywhere near the glass. It's very tough. Oh, it's hitting the glass. It's a tie we're talking about. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 02:32:10 I mean, you can't control the goddamn thing. That's impossible to play catch with. I think you're only supposed to throw it as far as possible. Do not buy that ball. Everybody in the back, way to go, Becker. Hey, Dirty Bruce, howdy, baby. Howdy, baby voice. Hey, Gumpy, good work out there. Thank you, Gumps. Miss go, Becker. Hey, Dirty Bruce. Howdy, baby. Howdy, baby voice. Hey, Gumpy.
Starting point is 02:32:26 Good work out there. Way to go, Gumps. Miss you, Gump. Miss you, Gump. Tim, way to go, pal. Way to go, Tim. All right. And you guys have watched.
Starting point is 02:32:34 Hey, way to go, Pat. No, no, honestly. Good show, Pat. Nice. So you guys have watched. Hey, there you go, Pat. Tell everybody that watched, you deserve the biggest applause for what you were able to withstand today. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 02:32:49 This show, somehow. Way to go. See you guys tomorrow. You're the best. Take about 20 hours and 30 minutes or so. Goodbye.

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