The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 753 - Monday Night Football Recap, Aaron Rodgers Tuesday Season 3 Week 4, Jordan Poyer, AQ Shipley LIVE In The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: October 4, 2022

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys are joined by AQ Shipley LIVE from the ThunderDome to recap last night's Monday Night Football game between the Rams and 49ers, how the 49ers look incredible after looking terrible last week, if the Rams are in trouble, Nick Bosa having an incredible night, and much much more. Joining the progrum is friend of the show, All-Pro, starting Safety for the Buffalo Bills, Jordan Poyer to chat about the Bills big win over the Ravens on Sunday, his pursuit of breaking the record for most interceptions in a single season, what it's like preparing to play against Lamar Jackson, and much more (29:49-39:57). Later, joining the progrum as he does every Tuesday, is Quarterback of the Green Bay Packers, Aaron Rodgers to chat about the big win over the Patriots in overtime, preparing to go to London for the first time to play the Giants, his thoughts on OBJ saying he's special and that he'd potentially like to play with him, what makes playing against Bill Belichick so difficult, the next installment in the Aaron Rodgers Book Club, and much more (1:50:29-2:28:53). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people. It is Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, October 4th, 2022. And this dumb sports show starts now. Week four of NFL Just That has officially wrapped up with the Niners beating the dog shit out of the Los Angeles Rams. Now, Los Angeles Rams are banged up. Los Angeles Rams have an offensive line issue. But is it the offensive line of the Los Angeles Rams, or is it that 49er defense that appeared to be all the way back? Hey, these motherfuckers are flying around.

Oh, yeah. Dogs. And D'Amico's got those boys doing a lot of things. Normally, you see those little stunt games happen, not with the big guys. Normally, with the big-name guys, they say, hey, you're going to go over here, you're going to take on the tackle, it's going to be a one-on-one matchup, we're going to run a stunt to get everybody else some action. Instead, D'Amico's running these things for Bosa.

Bosa had nine pressures yesterday, which is an insane amount, and he is unbelievable. Fred Warner appears to be the fastest, strongest dude on the football field whenever he's on the football field. He was making plays all over the place. I picked the Rams just because I thought about the allure of the Rams. Them coming back, trying to go back-to-back, trying to win two. Aaron Donald coming out of retirement,

which we learned during the kickoff show yesterday that we watched, that he actually told all of his family, all of his friends, all of his business partners, hey, I'm playing eight years in the NFL. That's it. I'm going to be able to take care of everybody. Then he got addicted to the confetti, he said. Yeah. I thought that addiction to the confetti to break a promise that he's made to himself

since the beginning of the NFL, him coming back, wanting to run it back. Sean McVay turned down whatever, 20-some million a year to call games on Amazon Prime to come back. You've got Matthew Stafford, Cooper Cupp, Jalen Ramsey. Everybody is basically back. I thought that was going to be a motivator at the end of the career. Let's go and get another one. Feels like they've got a lot to figure out.

I don't know if they're going to go get another one, to be honest with you. And we have a Los Angeles Rams fan in the office in Dirty. Dirty said, mail it in for the year, guys. That was tough. Now, Shanahan is 9-0 against McVay whenever he has Jimmy G, a quarterback. Now, is that because Jimmy G's the guy, or is that because Shanahan's offense is so fucking awesome to watch, and the defense that they run is next level?

Where's McVay? Lost it. Perhaps. Too much calm. Cooper Cup is getting the ball in every fucking play. Yeah. I bet on Cooper Cup scoring touchdown. He didn't, but he touched the ball in every single other play.

It seems like they got no other weapons. Is Odell Beckham Jr. Stock going up and up and up as every single game passes for the Los Angeles Rams. Now, he was at the Giants facility yesterday, either hanging out with friends or talking to the Giants. We don't know which one's the case. Josina said potentially talking, hanging out, having a good time. Somebody else said he was at a friend's house.

There's mixed reports. Nonetheless, Odell Beckham Jr. is doing his tour. He won't be healthy until November, I guess. But the Rams seem like they miss him a lot. That offense does not appear to be the same. Matthew Stafford doesn't appear to be the same. Oh, because he's on his back a lot. Let's learn about why today on this In the Trenches Tuesday as well

with a man who is a Super Bowl champion player coach. That's right. True. Formerly of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the Arizona Cardinals, the Indianapolis Colts, the Baltimore Ravens, the Philadelphia Eagles, and the Pittsburgh Steelers. Ladies and gentlemen, from Joe Paterno era, Penn State University, A.Q. Shipley.

Hey, A.Q. What's up, boys? The Talks at the Table is here at Boston Corner at Ty Schmidt. Love you, boys. Tone Diggs, great to see you for the second straight day after your paternity leave. We have missed you. The cowboy hat looks fantastic. AQ, let's dive into it.

Last night was a game of the offensive line, right? I mean, the Los Angeles Rams offensive line with Whitworth. Whitworth's doing great on TV. I love Whitworth. He is crushing. I love Whitworth. He's the man. We talked to him before the first game and we said hey

how about these this offense line they're going to be alright he goes it'll be fine they're in good hands you got these young guys they just paid another guy

to be the vet in the room for the offensive line I forget his name I think it was yeah he got paid the right tackle I believe got paid take care of it all

and Andrew Whitworth says it's going to be no problem I assume a lot of people thought it was going to be no problem it appears now they're on like their third or fourth starting offensive line

in as many games. A.Q. Shipley is a man who played center for a long time. Won the best in college football. Holy shit. That's a big award. He's a heady guy. You see that massive brain

you would assume because you can't just have that much air in a massive head that he has. Now, AQ, that offensive line seems to be problematic. Is it the Niners being that good, or is this what the Rams' offensive line is going to be for the foreseeable future? Are they fucked, dude? It seems like they're potentially fucked. Probably a little bit of both.

You know, I think the biggest thing right now is they got some injuries, so let's not overreact too quickly. Center's out. Center's out. Guard's out. Right. They got a couple guys out. They're missing Whitworth. They're trying to get, obviously, Noteboom kind of back in order.

Havenstein's the guy you're speaking about. He's the vet on that group. He's the right tackle. But, you know, they do got some issues to work out, but we also cannot forget that San Francisco defense was flying, flying around. Yeah, and we were chatting beforehand. Bosa has that big helmet. Oh, yeah.

Cool. Him and Kittle both have that fucking extendo forehead thing. It looks sweet. It does look kind of sweet. Yeah. Kittle's hair flowing. Sweet. Unreal.

Sweet. If he gets that foot down. Sure. There's a couple parlays that hit. Yeah, absolutely. I guess they haven't been using him much in the offense. They don't ever look for him. They really don't.

That's been a thing this year. Is that what's happening? And Bruce actually brought this up yesterday. Could it be because Trent Williams is out and they are keeping him in more to protect? Potentially, but let's get the guy the ball. Yeah, sometimes it's like just throw it up to him. I think he deserves it, right? Yeah.

I mean, there was a time not too long, maybe last year, where I asked him, I said, I think it was in the, and I said, like, the Cardinals game or something. You, like, ran a guy over and went, and he mockingly made a joke that was like, well, it happens in every game. And, like, he was joking, obviously. It was a good pop.

Got a pop out of all of us. But then as you start watching, it's like, yeah, yeah, actually, if you just get the ball in this guy's hands, he's going to fuck people. You can run little screens to him. It's a very easy way to get him the ball, but maybe he is in protection a little bit more because that appeared to be the problem with the Rams. Get back to the sweet helmet.

Bosa was fucking wide open. Nine pressures is a lot, right? That is something. What is the goal for an offensive line going into a game? No pressures? Is that the thought? The goal is no pressures, no sacks, right? That is something. What is the goal for an offensive line going into a game? No pressures? Is that the thought? The goal is no pressures, no sacks, right? Like, that's what you want.

So to give up nine pressures and two sacks to one guy, and he wasn't the only one eating on that front. He was not the only one eating. I mean, they were rolling last night. They got so many guys. They got Armstead. I mean, they got a bunch of guys. Ebicom, right?

They got so many different guys. They can do so many different things. Well, Javon Kinlaw, he's coming back at some point. And when he was playing against the Bears in week one, he was unbelievable. Well, yeah, we know he's awesome because of everything that had taken place. Big time. Cold as ice. That's right.

That photo of him walking off the field carrying his pads, too. Monster. Specimen. Dog. Hey, Godspeed on recovery. Yeah. Good luck. You need your back.

Javon. But they, D'Amico, what's he doing that's different? He's going to be head coach, I assume. How long has he been coaching? Because I feel like with what he did last night, everybody's like, oh, okay, that's our next head coach. Yeah, right there. That's going to be our next head coach.

A lot of people said that immediately. I was thinking the same thing. How long has he been coaching, and when did the, and when did is this his offense that he's creating? Is this his own thing, or what do you think like lineage is this potential? I think it comes from Sala, right? I think he was the linebacker's coach under Sala, and so the big theme, I played against those guys

twice a year for a bunch of years out there, and so the big theme with them is they built that entire defense around the defensive line to let them eat, so now they don't have to blitz. You heard them talk about that a lot last night. They don't have to blitz a lot. They can sit back and play coverage, drop seven, eight guys in coverage and just rush with three or four and get home because they're that good up front.

How do you feel about that if that's your team? Like watching the game last night, I was happy for the 49ers faithful. Yeah. You know, that program, they were back. Yeah, they were. They did that trolley thing on ESPN last night. And you're talking about Shanahan. He was shit before Jimmy G got in there.

At the top of that hill when he was on the trolley, which I guess the trolley doesn't run on that particular street, Joe Buck said, before you even start tweeting us, telling us that the trolley would never run on this particular street, we understand it's not that. But at the top of the hill, they were talking about his record pre-BJ? Yeah. Before Jimmy?

Yeah. BC, before Christ, right? Yeah, right. Bingo. Right? That's right. Thank you, Jesus. He's God-fearing man.

He's got a cross. Oh, really? Yeah, he's got a cross. Okay. I didn't know that. Hell yeah. What are you talking about? That's huge. Anyways, BJ. Not that BJ. Not that cross. Okay. I didn't know that. Hell yeah. What are you talking about? That's huge.

Anyways, BJ, not that BJ. Not that BJ. No. Before Jimmy, Trolley, not good for Shanahan. And whenever you look at his overall record, I think because of the pre and then when Jimmy was hurt, and then in the year they got kicked out of their stadium for COVID, there's been some adversity over there for sure. His record isn't like, hey, this guy is

the greatest head coach on earth, which I think a lot of people think like, hey, Shanahan's a fucking great head coach. The record doesn't state that. The record says something vastly different. But whenever he has that team rolling and then with that defense going and Jimmy G's maybe going to settle back into what he was last year, it feels like the Niners are all of a sudden right back in the conversation, oh, this team can win a fucking Super Bowl again. They were in a fucking NFC Championship game. So it's weird to even think like that.

But they've been through it, I feel like, the last 12 months or so. Yeah, for sure. It seemed like the team we saw last night was who we expected to see last week against the Broncos when they looked just really bad. Boring. Yeah, super boring. But this is kind of what we were saying when it's like hey if jimmy g gets in there he has the experience with all these guys they're ready to go and you

just see little things like debo so explosive you get the ball in that guy's hands good things are going to happen if they can incorporate kittle a little bit more because they've always been plug and play with the running backs like it seems like with shanahan's offense it doesn't really matter who's back there. Their starting running back gets hurt in the first week. He's out six to eight weeks or whatever. Boom, drop another guy in there. He's a stud.

And we're going to break down that play later, that play design with Ol' Cuzzy that just busted it. I mean, it is just the scheme is just so much more interesting than anything else you see anybody do right and there was a conversation we had to have it because it was happening elsewhere so how do we say this we have to cover things you have to exactly if things are being talked about we have to talk about it because we are doing a talk about show sure that's right the thing we talk about is the football so if it's being talked about in the football world somewhere,

we have to talk about it because it's a talk about the talk about show. Exactly. That's what we do here. But why? Who cares? Why do we talk about it? Well, because we have to let people know that people are thinking like this just in case they interact with anybody from that particular niche group of

people, that that might be what you're encountering. So actually, I think we're bringing people together by talking about what people are talking about so that other people who aren't talking about it can say, oh, I didn't know people were talking about that. So it's all about opening the doors of conversation, I think. Yeah, that's right. And that's why you have to talk about what people are talking about. And that's why it is vital for us to say that at one point we were talking about people

talking about McDaniel being the genius up there at the Niners. That's right. And he was gone. And now the Niners are fucking dead. We're talking about that on the show because people are talking about people talking about McDaniel being the genius up there at the Niners. That's right. And he was gone. And now the Niners are fucking dead. We were talking about that on the show because people were talking about that, so we had to bring it up because the Miami Dolphins were, oh, remember? Yeah, undefeated. He had his sunglasses on, fucking cool sunglasses on, McDaniel.

Got Gatorade dumped on his head. He was like, I love you guys, man. Everybody loves him. They got music playing. They're doing the whole thing. So people were talking about like, oh, was that the real golden goose of that Washington football team? Put your left hand up. Commanders.

Who are we? Commanders. I don't know if we got the rhythm right there. Only heard it a few times before we came live. We'll get it. Those haters can't stand us. Left hand up. Who are we?

The Commanders. Okay, all right. All right, we got it. Banger. God. Play that over the loudspeaker. Is Wale on that? I thought he produced it.

No, I don't know. I don't know. We'll have to look into that. Wale. I'd be shocked if he wasn't. Those haters can't stand us. Left hand up. Who are we?

The Commanders! Number one song in the country. How could it not be? Yeah, coming at you. As soon as I heard it, had to run it back a few times. I mean, I love the Commanders. Who doesn't? They're going through it right now.

They've got a lot going on. They're going to be up for sale, though, allegedly soon, via one report. But with reports, what. Okay? Who doesn't? They're going through it right now. They've got a lot going on. They're going to be up for sale, though, allegedly soon via one report. But with reports, what's real, what isn't, we don't fucking know. But it's alleged that they're going to be up for sale soon. We've got a whole new, no more poop pipes bursting. That's right. No more anything. We're going to go right to the top.

We're back. Hey, commanders, you're going to be back. Here we go. But with that being said, any time a former Washington commander, formerly known as team assistant coach, goes on to have success as a coach, that photo of all the assistant coaches that were in Washington who have gone on to be very successful head coaches is going to get shoved around the internet quickly.

And everybody was talking about maybe McDaniel because he finally got his opportunity with Miami. He's the best out of all of them. This guy's got Miami, which is a place that was literally burning to the ground, it seemed like just a year ago, to win. And then the Niners didn't look great. And then Trey gets hurt and Jimmy gets in. There's all that drama.

It's like, was McDaniel the glue that was holding old Shanahan together? Had to have that conversation because people were having that conversation. Turns out that's not accurate. Shanahan's still got football figured out. Is that what you're thinking, AQ, after watching film last night? Well, that scheme was awesome. The run game was awesome. They were phenomenal on third down. That was the difference between last week and this week. They were phenomenal on third down. Jimmy kept drives alive, which allowed the run game to stay alive. And it all starts with that run game with Shanahan's offense. So who's their,

they got good offensive line coach, don't they? Chris Furster. What's his name? Chris Furster. Wait, I know that name. Yeah. Chris Furster. I know that name. Was he? Legendary.

Yeah, he used to have some meetings that would knock your socks off. That's Chris Furster? Hey, a guy who knows how to move bodies. He's a great offensive line coach. So they got the scheme. Probably the best offensive line coach in the game. Whoa, Dante's going to make it. Fuck him so much. coach in the game. Whoa, Don does so much. Retired.

Fair. What about Howard Mudd? Rest in peace. Rest in peace. Mike Munchak. Matt Patricia. Russ Grimm. He's out right now.

How about Strasser here in Indiana? He's been good so far this year. They've been moving. They've got some issues going. What? You got the best O-line in the league before the season starts. Where would you rank their O-line right now? There was no reason for the Colts to get brought up here.

That's why this show is the worst. There's no reason for the Colts to catch a ricochet shot right now. You just explained it. We've got to talk about what people are talking about. Yeah, people are talking about it. A Colts offense line is supposed to be unbelievable. Okay, so the L.A. Rams' offense line is fixable. They're going to get healthy.

You can only hope. Shanahan is still smart on the offensive side of the ball. Unbelievable. Okay, let's move on. Why the fuck do the Colts offensive lines think so? What is going on? Honestly, that's a real question. Because two top 100 players in the NFL on that.

Ryan Kelly, the center, who by all accounts has been very good at football his entire life, I'd assume, but definitely in the NFL. And then Quentin Nelson is supposed to be like greatest guard of all time, top 10 pick, has been heralded by everybody as an incredible football player. And then this year, it's all gone to shit. Matt Ryan, I'm worried to death about that guy. Anytime he gets touched, ball comes out. I mean, he had like nine fumbles or something like that already in four weeks.

I mean, and it feels like that's going to be happening a lot to him. Jonathan Taylor has zero holes. We're very lucky to sit in the suites. No, paid for it. Lucky to have the means to buy said suite. Very expensive. Unlucky that it's the Colts that the team is the suite at. What is your problem?

I'm just trying to cross all the, you know, T's, dot all the I's. It's still awesome. All right, it's awesome. Anyways, we're on the field, okay? We're in the game. We're a meet and greet. We're in a game. That's right.

Okay, that's kind of what it is. That's the whole thing. And you see Jonathan get the ball. Nothing. Like, you watch Derrick Henry, and I can see the other side of the stadium. So, like, that's a hole, I think. That's a big gaping hole. And those do happen.

We know that because every time you break down a film, like, in the NFL, that type of shit can happen. Even though the NFL has great defensive linemen, there's massive holes that could be had. Watching games, you can see other teams. They have just these wide open holes. And then every time Jonathan Taylor seems to get the ball, and I think it's because he is Jonathan Taylor,

so they probably stack the box or whatever, and they can't really protect for the pass enough. I don't know if that's why defense is doing it. He ain't got shit. This offensive line almost had a fucking MVP last year. What has happened? How's that happened? Yeah, watching through the first couple weeks it's there's a ton of communication issues there's a ton of breakdowns due to communication and then also i think part of that is because they have jonathan taylor they're getting stacked boxes they do so much rpo stuff so

now what everybody's condensed down because we know the ball is getting out quick now every there's seven boxes eight eight boxes. So everything is red zone. Everything is red zone essentially, right? Like they're literally just condensing the box, knowing the ball is going to come out. And whenever there has been times where they've tried to push it down the field, there's been communication issues or breakdowns,

and people are just running free. Fucked. Yeah, it's messed up. How many weeks does that take? I mean, I'm trying to learn college football as much as possible, like all the hundreds of years of history of every team over the last few weeks. It's not easy. So I don't know if it's easy to compare that type of situation to, like,

trying to learn and communication stuff. Are they going to figure this out, you think? Is this figureoutable for the Colts? You would hope with the veterans they have on that team. You would hope. Like, it should have been figured out at this point. That's what I'm talking about. We're back.

I don't need to hear anything. Colts going on a fucking run, dude. I just heard it right here. It doesn't make sense because, like Tony was saying last night with the Niners, right, Trent Williams is out. Maybe Kittle stays in box a little more. The Colts have two 6'8 tight ends that can also catch the ball. Yeah, what is that?

Why aren't they on the field the whole time? Because they don't have weapons. Like, put Pittman out. Hold on. We've got to correct something. We've got to correct something because there was a lot of tweets that were saying something. Yesterday while chatting about Jelani Woods' lack of snaps, there was a statement

said, I believe, by the man in the cowboy hat. About how he missed snaps on Sunday? And that's why he didn't get a lot of snaps right oh shit people started actually running with that no idea yeah yeah yeah i've seen it a journalist uh who works for a legit operation had to answer a question about it that people were uh signing i saw the newspaper yeah that's what i'm saying saying can't be spread misinformation but i would say if you heard it, though, it was very clearly what?

We were just raising the question. It could be true still. It wasn't like, hey, this happened. I said it in my maybe voice. Oh, yeah, of course, that one. Hypothesis voice. I will say, yesterday, your first day back, you had your maybe voice on the entire time.

There's a new thing in my headphones going on. I've got to get used to it. Oh, a new studio. Yeah. You have to go through it. We had to go through it two weeks ago. Exactly. I could hear my voice before the thoughts come in my head.

I looked over at Tony yesterday. His first sentence, I was like, oh, today's going to be awesome. Because you could just tell he was not prepared for what was happening. What is it? It's a delay in your ear? It's almost I could hear the words in my head before they come out of my mouth. Is that why you're talking so slow? Yes.

Yesterday you were. Oh, so you feel like you're talking in a stadium right now. Yeah. I don't know what's happening. You know my brain's not great anyways. Can we just turn down his thing, right? It's like half a second. I know what Tony's talking about.

Yeah, we still have it. You kind of just got to get used to it. We're getting to the bottom of it. Do I have it as well or no? No, I don't think so. Only the IFB, their channels. That's fine. I can take it out.

How are you guys closer to the whole thing and have it worse? That's a good question. If we know anything about how this whole thing was set up, I'm sure they fuck with it back there. And then people will come back and fix it. And then right before they leave, they'll unplug it again. All right. Let it abode.

All right. Everybody's good. Everybody's good. I feel like I was talking very slow yesterday. Yeah, a lot of maybe voices. So I didn't know what anything was. But there was people that thought that was real. We do not know that to be the case.

No. We assume it is not the case, though. Well, it still could be, though. still a chance all right let's run through some shit uh russell wilson has a shoulder injury uh they play on thursday night so this is something to chat about i believe he got tackled on the sideline landed awkwardly in the game he finished said game but now he is, I don't know if he's, I don't know if he's questionable. I don't think, he's playing, right? It's Russell Wilson.

It's becoming a story, though, because I think he has gotten some treatment on him. They have arrested him. Tom Pellicero tweeted, Broncos quarterback Russell Wilson dinged up. His shoulder in Sunday's loss to the Raiders. Good use of, I thought the sentence was ending there. It was not. Russell Wilson dinged up his shoulder in Sunday's loss to the Raiders and is sore today, according to coach Nathaniel Hackett.

Wilson is listed as limited on the estimated participation report. Denver faces the Colts on Thursday night. The estimated participation report. So if we were to be participating in something right now, we can kind of put together a guess or two who would be participating. That's an interesting thing. Have you ever heard of this before? Is this something that is normal? And this is just for them to say he would have practiced today or would not have practiced today if we were to practice, but we're not practicing. So to answer your question before you even ask, like if you had a game today, would he play? This is our answer.

Is that what that is there? And how awesome is that, that that is an answer now that's just like standard lexicon? They typically do that for all the Thursday games, little estimated things. Because it's walk through the whole week for the most part, right? So they might jog around a little bit tomorrow, but he's sore. What's that? He's dinged up, dude. Pretty good. He's dinged up.

Sore. He's dinged up. He's dinged up. It's different than being sore. Two words there. Dinged up, dude. Pretty good. Thank you. Sore. He's dinged up. He's dinged up. It's different than being sore. That two words there, dinged up. And also, to compound that, sore. Right. Football.

Well, he has concussion water. Does he not have soreness water? Well, he's got the danger wish, and I thought that helps with shoulder injuries. Well, no, that's why. He's got a shoulder injury because he did eat too many Danger Witches, and he wanted to live dangerously. So that's why he soared. The Dangerous Life is not for everyone.

Well, that's why the Danger Witch may be not for everybody, too. Have we tried it? How is the Danger Witch? I ate one every day for the last week. It's been amazing. Oh, so it's something that's very delicious? Oh, yeah. We should have known that.

It's real good, it sounds like. Yeah. Throwing the dorsal fin, we should have known. Whatever he puts his hands on is unbelievable. If Russell Wilson puts his hands on something, it's going to be good. That's right. Kind of like Tebow. Yeah.

Tebow died, though, right? Tebow? Oh, Tebow. Tebow did die. Yeah, because. Kind of like Tebow. Yeah. Tebow died, though, right? Tebow? Oh, Tebow's dead. Tebow did die. Yeah, because Tebow was with Tebow. Yeah, it was a great run. It was perfect marketing, too, because when you heard Tebow, everybody was like, like Tebow, but with a V.

You know what I mean? Like Rex Ryan with the Scholes. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, yeah, he's sore, dude. Yeah, he's dinged up. Did you not see the estimated participation trophy, though? He would have got one.

So let's not even act like it's a problem. But it is against the Indianapolis Colts on Thursday night. It is in Denver. It is going to be Amazon Prime. The Colts are getting three and a half points. Broncos favored by three and a half. Obviously, the over-under is 43 and a half points. I have no idea how this is going to go,

but with what I seen the Denver Broncos defense do to the Niners defense a couple weeks ago, it automatically makes me think, oh, this Denver Broncos defense with Patrick Sertain and the boy who we're learning about through everything DB with Darius Butler, I think it's going to be tough for the Colts to move the ball on this Broncos team. Now, maybe the Titans are a team that nobody is going to see coming.

Maybe they are stallions. Maybe their defense is better than people have given them credit for, maybe. But the Colts do not look like they're going to be able to move the ball really on anybody. That Broncos defense seems to be very good. The under feels like the right play here, especially with the Colts' defense. That might be our go-to bet of the weekend. Tony, you love a good under bet. This one feels like, how are anybody going to move?

I was just thinking the total could be 23 and a half, and I think it might be too high in this one. Thursday night, too, much more basic game plan, right? Can't really put too much. Are you all right? Thank you. It feels similar to the Niners, Broncos, and how many points you scored in that one?

21. 21. Yeah. You're right. But Randy Gregory being out hurts that Denver's. Yeah, and they just gave up a ton of yards. Hurts Denver's defense. Big shot.

Yeah, Josh Jacobs, who Josh McDaniels didn't want to fucking play. Sounds like a hate. 175 yards or something, total offense from Josh McDaniels, or Josh Jacobs in Josh McDaniels' offense. I wonder how they came back. You know, they smoked a peace pipe together? Probably. Josh McDaniels' offense. I wonder how they came back. They smoked a peace pipe together? Probably. Josh McDaniels, Josh Jacobs.

Did Josh McDaniels say, hey, Josh, you're going in the last year of your contract. You're a running back. Where I come from, New England, we don't pay those guys. We don't like you. So welcome to the stable. You're going to be just whatever, and then we're going to move on. And at the beginning, he's like, hey, you're also playing in a Hall of Fame

game. Yeah, sorry about it. You're going to be playing in a Hall of Fame game. Yeah, sorry about it. You're going to be playing in a Hall of Fame game. This game does not matter to anybody. Actually, nobody on our team that is going to be on our team this year is going to be playing in this Hall of Fame game. You're starting, dude. Actually, 30 carries.

Good luck out there. So then Josh Jacobs just kept, I guess, being a trooper and just was like, yeah, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it. And then Josh McDaniels finally was like, all right, we fucking need this guy. We haven't won a goddamn game yet. Is that what happened? How do you think this came to be? You think if you were to know Josh McDaniels as a new England Patriot fan for

life or because I'm happy because Josh Jacobs, that's why we're all so alarmed. I'm like, Hey, I thought this guy was a great fucking player. Right. And then now Josh McDaniels, I guess it was because we all just assumed the new england thing with our running backs are up there you don't get paid really it's a stable we need we this what you need to do we'll create yards for you basically it's kind of a system uh position but josh jacobs said dude i'm happy josh mcdaniel's to find out i assume raiders fans are excited to see him back in there yeah absolutely i assume when mark davis and josh mcdaniel's met and mark told him, if you don't win a game soon, I'm going to delete your Madden

franchise off my Xbox. He said, hey, look, we need to have Josh Jacobs be playing. And because of the fact that McDaniels is from that coaching tree up there, I think he at some point was like, all right, instead of doing the whole stable thing, we're 0-3. Let's just use our best players instead of, you know, throwing the ball to Brandon Bolden because he played for me for a long time in New England. And now we'll see what happens. And, you know, after Sunday, it feels like the Raiders could be back if they're starting to use all their guys.

Hey, Devontae was getting the rock. Yep. Derek Hart. Geez. No Renfro. Still got it done. You think they were just having a walkabout in Vegas, and they saw the crazy horse, and they went in and had a couple dances together

and fucking bygones were bygones? That's what I'm saying. I don't know if they're walking by crazy horse, or maybe they're just at a blackjack table. Maybe they just happened upon each other at a sports bar off the strip somewhere, and they just chit-chat and get past it. Or they're 0-3, and it's like, well, I've exhausted all other options. Maybe my pride's getting the best of me here.

Let's fucking give our guy a go. But Devontae was getting open. Devontae was getting the ball a lot. I enjoyed watching what they were doing with Josh Jacobs. Derek Carr looked like he had a lot more confidence. It appeared as if they were going. I mean, good for the Raiders. They're the Chiefs, though, seem to be the big bad wolves.

Yeah, for sure. I mean, it seemed like they realized, like, hey, we're not going to be – we can't be throwing it 50 times a game with Derek Carr. Like, I understand we got Devontae, Darren Waller, Renfro. Everyone said we might have the best offense in the NFL. But this guy was a first-round pick. He's very good. And maybe part of it, too, is like, yeah, we're not going to pay him,

but fuck it, why not just give him 35 carries a game this year and kind of just use up all the good juju he's got left in him. And then we'll let somebody else deal with him whenever he's done with us. And then we'll figure out how to gain a single yard, you know, once he's gone. But yeah, it is awesome to see Josh Jacobs getting a rock again. There's some guys that I just think are electrifying when they get it. Josh Jacobs became one of those guys in his primetime games when we'd watch the Raiders.

I'm not saying I watch the Raiders, like, every single game. I do apologize for that. I should. I should. Yeah, but. I saw it on the three. It was tough for me to dive into it. But anytime they're on primetime, I saw Josh Jacobs, I thought to myself, that guy's a

fucking great running back. Did he only show up in primetime games? I do not know. Hey, do you think, just quickly, you know, because teams that are like one and three statistically tough to make it in the playoffs, and then teams that are too good early, they peak too early. Is that anything you think, or does it not matter at all? No, I think you set yourself up for December and September, right?

But I don't think any of that matters. At the end of the day, you're trying to figure out who you are in the first month. You're trying to also figure out who the rest of the league is. They needed a win. They've got to win with their backs against the wall. And so now we'll see what this Raiders team does from there. That's like the Chiefs. Everybody thought they were dead,

and then they have a game, and everybody's like, oh, there's the Chiefs again. Then the Buffalo Bills, they obviously start out guns a blazing. Have a Miami situation. Then they get back on the right side of things. And the man that is joining us right now is back on pace to have 17 interceptions this season. Wow. If he doesn't have 17 interceptions, don't vote him into the fucking Pro Bowl.

Can't do it. Absolute stallion. Captain of the Buffalo Bills. Ladies and gentlemen, Jordan Poirier. Yeah! Welcome, Pro Bowl. Can't do it. Absolute stallion. Captain of the Buffalo Bills. Ladies and gentlemen, Jordan Poirier. Yeah! Oh, you're muted. You're muted.

Thank you for having me on again. Hey, great to see you, man. How are you, boss? You healthy? You're all the way back? I'm healthy. I'm healthy. I'm good.

You know, a little nicks and bruises here and there, but I'm all right, man. It's good to see you guys, though. Hey, great to see you as well. So, congratulations. We're back on 17 pace. Back on track on track you're an animal dude hey you are like the way you hawk the ball is insane this one obviously massively athletic and heady play needed it in the fourth quarter this one though you're a fucking animal dude you hear me now this is a game changer because it ends up a touchback as

opposed to getting the ball on the four or whatever and it was talked about in baltimore all weekend but let's just talk about you making a goddamn fucking play pal huh look at the scene the field there's one of the four two out there bro let's go you're causing questions the hardball's career that's not for you to deal with but that is because of the play that you made in the decision there um you're and the decision there. You're all the way back. It feels like the Bills are all the way back. What happened in Miami?

Are you okay? And what was the conversation after that massive win over Baltimore? What a way to go out there. Yeah, yeah. I got hurt in the Tennessee game, just a sprained foot. I was lingering a little bit throughout the week. It was going to be a game-down decision over Miami. Unfortunately, we just missed it.

Maybe we needed another day. But I was able to get back and get back this week to help our team come out with a victory. It was an awesome feeling to go out there to Baltimore. Being down 17, everybody probably counted us out. But we got the right guys in the locker room. Vaughn always telling us, don't blink. One play at a time. We were able to come back with a hell of a win.

I think that was the first time the Bills had won in Baltimore for a long time. So it was pretty cool. It was a pretty special feeling. Okay, so now you have Pittsburgh. All right, you're taking on the AFC North. You've got Baltimore. Now you've got Pittsburgh. They've got a young quarterback.

How far into the planning are we? I know it's Tuesday, but I assume with that veteran group up there, you guys are all eyes ahead now. What is the thought process going into this planning are we? I know it's Tuesday, but I assume with that veteran group up there, you guys are all eyes ahead now. What is the thought process going into this week's game? Yeah, I mean, obviously, you know, they got a rookie quarterback coming in here. You know, a top first-round pick, you know, a guy who's got all the potential in the world, obviously a really good defense over there.

So, you know, it's going to be a good football game. You know, we got another home game. We're. It's going to be a good football game. We've got another home game. We're excited for our crowd to come and show their support. We've got to prepare well. Obviously, they probably wish they had some plays back last week. They're going to be hungry coming in here to Buffalo.

Obviously, I've played in that division before and it's always a tough game when you're playing Pittsburgh. Ty, your question for Jordan Boyer. Jordan, obviously you're a vet, so I don't know how much your preparation changes week to week, but how difficult is it preparing for a guy like Lamar Jackson? Does that change how you kind of prepare for the week going into the game

as opposed to if you're playing against somebody else? Yeah, for sure. Just the style of offense that they run, it's not a normal, you know, your typical offense. So you've got to change some things up on defense schematically. You know, you've got to run some things differently schematically. And you've really got to play kind of 11-on-11 football, being able to count for Lamar, you know,

when he has the ball in his hands and quarterback keeps and quarterback his own reads and stuff like that. So his plan does change a little bit throughout the week, kind of gets skewed up a little bit. Some rules are changed. But like I said, we've got the right guys in the locker room, man. We always understand when we play in Baltimore, it's going to be like that. You're going to have to really hone in throughout the week and understand the details in your work.

It started off a little slow, but as the game progressed on, we were able to settle down a little bit and make some plays. Yeah, what do you think it was there? Because obviously it was a tale of two different halves of football there especially in the fourth quarter what do you think it was is it just a new group of guys around you know without your guy Hyde too it is it's a little different you know but um you know we miss Hyde miss 23 out there but uh I think we just had to settle down in the game a little bit obviously early on got put in some tough situations, probably some plays that we want back.

But just having to settle down in the game a little bit and see how the game was being played, how they were attacking us. And then obviously when it come down to making plays, we had to be able to make plays and give 17 the ball back. And once we were able to do that, we knew that he was going to take care of the rest. What'd you do to fix your foot? Did they have you grab this stuff with your toes and bring it in like this? Is that what you know, we knew that he was going to take care of the rest. What'd you do to fix your foot? Did they have you grab this stuff with your toes and bring it in like this? Is that what you did?

Yeah, what do they call that thing? The LG board. I think it's the LG board. Yeah, I had to do a bunch of that. They were getting me right, though, man. It was kind of frustrating. Like I said, I missed that Miami game. I really wanted to play there.

Obviously, living down there in the offseason, got a bunch of homeboys on that other team and a bunch of family. But, you know, like Vaughn said, good medicine for us, and we were able to bounce back and come to Baltimore and get a victory. Hey, how tedious is that? Oh, I've had to do that a couple times. It is. It sucks.

So heavy. It is. It is. It's just like, what are we doing? Like, you know, is this really helping? But we'll see what they tell you to do. Hey, I guess it did, though, huh? You're back. Two picks. Hey, you're, is this really helping? But, dude, that's how you do it. Hey, I guess it did, though, huh? You're back two picks.

Hey, you're back two picks. You did. Back on track. Hey, just keep doing the miserable toe things. Just keep doing the miserable toe things, dude. Connie, your question. Yeah, Jordan, is it harder to prepare for a quarterback like Kenny Pickett because you've only had, like, a small sample size to kind of watch film on him?

Or are you watching pittsburgh's offense more so as a whole and then trying to kind of see what it's like with kenny based on his plays yeah you know obviously you get the second half of the of the uh jets and steelers game from over the weekend and see kind of how he operates within that within that system but then you know obviously you go back to the browns game throughout throughout the seasons and you know you watch their offense as a whole you know they probably they go back to the Browns game throughout the seasons and, you know, you watch their offense as a whole. You know, they ain't really changed much in the second half of that Jets game with the way they were running the ball, with the plays that they were calling.

So, you know, I'm sure they're going to come out with a couple of wrinkles for us on Sunday. But, you know, you really just kind of watch their offense as a whole, get some tips, get some reminders throughout the week. You know, and it's a totally different style offense than we played the week before. So we're going to have to have a really good week of preparation. And like I said, this is a tough football game,

a tough football team. I've been in this division for four years, you know, so I know every time you go to Baltimore, every time Pittsburgh comes to you, it's going to be a tough game. Obviously, you know, with the defense that they have over there. So, you know, we've got to come ready to play jordan um i don't know if you saw on pro football focus it said zero picks but in if you're watching the game can he pick it through three picks okay now there's a hail mary involved there's two tips that whole. You're on track for 17, all right?

How is there at the safety position, like corners they can just throw away from, right? Corners they can just throw away from. If there's a greedy corner who is racking in interceptions, you can just throw away. At safety, you're kind of involved everywhere, right? So we might get, you get 17. you get you get 14 picks 14 13 picks 13 picks we'll donate a million dollars to a foundation yeah yeah yeah yeah there it is yeah 13

all right okay let's go here we go heard it yes i did challenge me now challenge me i'll take challenges personally but there's no way to like you're in every single play right at the safety position. That's a little bit of a different game. That's why having a ball hawk at safety is such a big fucking deal though, right? I like to be in every play. I like to get to the ball every play. You know, I always, you know, when you run to the ball, good things happen, you know. And so, you know, I'm able to play with a lot of vision within the system.

And so, I'm able to get to the ball a little bit quicker than some guys that may be playing a man or rushing a passer or whatever. So I like to be able to tell myself every game, go into the game and be the game changer, be a game changer, make a play that changes the game. And like I said, I'm playing 70, 80 plays a game. One of those plays has got to come my way at some point. So just keep running to the ball.

Good things happen. We got great D-line. We got great linebackers that clean stuff up and allow me to be able to play freely in the back end. Well, let's go, huh? Let's go get it. Yeah. Let's go.

Hey. Let's go. Let's go. Dude. Let's fucking go, Pat. All right. Well, why not get 17, though? You know, let's not stop at 13, though.

No, why not? Yeah, you just bust through that. Yeah, we'll keep adding on to it. go ahead and tell him your question for jordan jordan the camera always shows like when great quarterbacks play together they're always talking before the game after the game or whatever like when you and minka two of the best safeties in the league play each other do you guys have a conversation before and after just to shoot shit yeah i mean usually you see another guy on the other side that you that you watch film's always, you know, go say what's up to him. Hey, respect to your game.

Good luck. You know, best of luck to you. The rest, you know, there's some guys, you know, I like Levi Wallace. I'll go chop it up with him before the game. He was here for four years. I was a teammate with him. You know, other guys, you obviously respect a lot of other players around the league. So if there's someone obviously like me, I'll go up to him.

Hey, man, respect what you're doing. And he's balling too. So, you know, I'm trying to stay ahead of him because every time he turned off TV, it seemed like he'd get another pick, too. So, you know, like I said, it's a very tough defense over there, and, you know, he leads the charge over there. Hey, good luck this week, man. I can't wait to watch.

I appreciate it. Hey, I love you on game day, bro, by the way. That's hot. That's dope. Hey, come on, huh? You bring the energy. You bring the energy. You bring the energy.

That means a lot. I need to hear that. I need to hear that. I want to let you know, I need to hear that. I appreciate that. There's a lot of college football fans that do not enjoy me on there. They don't know what they're talking about. Thank you, Jordan.

Thank you. I needed that. Let's go get 13 this year. Okay. I appreciate you. Everybody on there is amazing, by the way. I'm lucky to be there. I'm trying to learn as much as possible. I fucking needed that. Let's go get 13 this year. Okay, I appreciate you. Everybody on there is amazing, by the way. I'm lucky to be there. I'm trying to learn as much as possible.

I fucking needed that, though. I appreciate you. Jordan, good luck this week. We'll talk to you hopefully in the near future. Yep. Jordan Boyer, ladies and gentlemen. Yay! All right.

A million dollars just popped up. There we go. Boom. That's a lot of picks. That's a lot of picks for safety. Go corner. Go on. That's a lot of picks. That's a lot of picks for safety. Go to the corner. Go on. Yeah, that's a lot of.

What's the NFL record? I feel like that would definitely be it. 14 is the record. Safety is. As he was talking, and we were talking about Kenny Pickett, I believe you asked or somebody asked about how much you can train or prepare for him. Yeah.

The stat of three, literally it just popped in my head. I'm like, jordan's gonna be my kid too this week oh my god i mean jordan and then i thought in my head what's the record so then i didn't know my i know his answer was coming to an end there soon so i didn't have the opportunity to utilize this super fancy talkback button to hit zito to ask him for the record so i almost said on air hey what's the record for amount of picks for safety or whatever, and then say I was going to give him a million. And then I just blurted out a bunch of numbers, like 17, 15, 14, 13.

Because I was trying to guess what the record would be. Like in my head, 14 is the record for safety. Yeah, Night Train Lane in 1952, the modern day record. They were so loose with the ball. The modern day record is 11, basically, with Trevon Diggs. Okay, so we'll make that 12. Give an update and tell Jordan if it's 12. If he breaks an NFL record, we'll donate a million dollars to a foundation of his.

Still might not make the Pro Bowl, though. Well, if he doesn't, don't fucking put him in. Yeah, exactly. If he doesn't break a record that has never been touched before, don't fucking put him in the program. What do you think about it? He doesn't deserve it. No. Zero Pro Bowlers on that Bill's defense last year.

So this is unbelievable. Zero. That's unbelievable. They had number one defense in the NFL. I think scoring, turnover, everything. Zero. The new Pro Bowls flag football, though, right? I think it's a whole thing.

We might be a part of that. We might be a part of that. I don't know. And I don't know if that's breaking news or not either. And I don't know if it's a whole thing. We might be a part of that. We might be a part of that. I don't know. And I don't know if that's breaking news or not either. And I don't know if it's happening. That would be sweet. It was certainly a part of the conversation that I had with ESPN whenever we were chatting about it, about things we could potentially,

you know, hey, what can we potentially do stuff together with? And I'm like, I think that Pro Bowl could be awesome. Because you look, and I'm sure this is what everybody said, and I don't know what we would be a part of. I might only be on a microphone at it or whatever. I don't know if I'm in the preparing process, brainstorming process of it. Probably should be, but I don't know if I will be or not.

But, like, you look back at the old ones, whenever everybody would go to Hawaii and cared, it was invested in, like, the skills challenges that had actual prizes and, like, everybody actually competed in them. Now, I know in the modern world of people not even playing in like college bowl games and like science telling you not to exude any energy. But if you get some sponsor to offer up like real fucking money for people, like you will get a guy to go do something if they're going to get some. Match it to a donation as well to a charity. But every guy is thinking about their business whenever they're choosing not to do shit.

They're thinking about their business. Don't want to get hurt. Why? Hurts the business. Don't want to do this. Why? Because it hurts the business. So if you just say, hey, business, not a bad idea to do this, these couple skills challenge,

be able to do this. And then we'll also donate, too. So we'll be able to make it both. Like, you can then, like, I think, really get guys to do shit. That quarterback challenge way back in the day. Unbelievable. Yeah, like Peyton taking on that guy who. Jeff Garcia.

No, no, not that guy. Brett Favre. Oh, that guy. That's who I'm talking about. I'm talking about the. You don't deserve money. Hey, you new here, kid? You're going to buy all my drinks this weekend.

You broke? Yeah. You're buying my food actually you uh i'm gonna take your hotel room as just kind of a hangout room for me you can fucking sleep in the lobby actually don't sleep in the lobby we got a volleyball net anyways they were all competing at that time that was long before we knew anything about any defunding. Right. Before you're stealing from the poor. Stealing from the poorest people in America.

In the poorest state, I believe, in America. Right. So you could technically, if you ipso facto that thing, the poorest people in America. The people who need money the most in America. The United States. Yes. From Maine all the way down to South Florida and the Keys.

That's right. You think he was watching Robin Hood? All the way over to Southern California. All the way up to which one's on top? Oregon or Washington? Washington. Alaska. Oh, and also Alaska.

Basically, Russia. All the way down to Hawaii. Of course. The forest. By far. That's a big fucking area. That's a lot of people. That's so many people.

Yeah. Brett's like, them. Don't care. Right there. Well, who says they get, they deserve to have clothes

and get to eat and have a roof over their heads and a bed to sleep on. That's bullshit you know we flat volleyballs my daughter's got at her new facility too many what were you saying he said let's watch robin hood fuck that the opposite you know brett like he couldn't read a defense he didn't know what defense was or anything like that maybe he misunderstood robin hood was watching it and got and got it like up. That's a good idea.

Modern day. I love this guy. Look at this. What is he? Fucking stealing from the poor and giving to the rich. Yeah. That's a great idea. I should fucking do that.

He's a nickel defense. What is a nickel defense? What the hell am I talking about? Oh, they sub out a linebacker, put him in safety. That's it? Jeez. All right, I'm going to lunch. Well, I can take that nickel from those poor people. Oh, they sub out a linebacker, put him in safety. That's it? Geez. All right, I'm going to lunch. Well, I can take that nickel from those poor people.

Oh, geez. It's my nickel defense. Are they ever running dime? Because that's best. That's double. Need some of those. Anyways, it's terrible. Yeah.

But back in the day, they used to do the full skills challenge. Yep. And they would be throwing that motherfucker as hard as they could. And they'd be, like, really torquing and everything. and they'd be throwing it and we get to see like josh allen versus patrick mahomes who could throw the ball further like back in the day that conversation was being settled on tv actually and it was at in hawaii with a rented out resort everybody's families went there was only nfl people there was like events and concerts there was like it was like hey congratulations on making the pro bowl this is what you get to do as opposed to

oh you made the pro bowl let's go to work all right you gotta do you gotta go shovel you gotta pour concrete in the desert okay you're staying in a hotel that isn't just for there's four conventions happening at this hotel was that not the case yeah i was there with you a with you. AQ was out there with me. We went out to have a good time. The fucking hotel had four different conventions in it. Fans. In the lobby, everything like that. That was when Luke Keekly, I think I met him for the first time. And he's just like glasses, you know, unassuming white dude just walking through. And then all of a sudden, boom, you got like four autograph hounds that just somehow snuck into the convention that was staying in that hotel.

They're like, look, can you sign 45 jerseys for me? My whole family's here. And it's like, gee, this is the Pro Bowl, huh? Congratulations. Hey, congrats on that. There you go. Congrats on it. It was 22 degrees at night in Phoenix.

I mean, it was fucking freezing. Couldn't go outside at the time. I don't know if it was like unreasonably cold for the time, but it was. It was so cold. It was just like, I remember, I think I told everybody that I outside at the time. I don't know if it was, like, unreasonably cold for the time, but it was. It was so cold. It was just, like, I remember, I think I told everybody that I knew at the time, like, I was, like, so pumped to make the Pro Bowl. Rightfully so. Because, like, watching it growing up.

And they used to have, like, kicking competitions and, like, contests. Oh, yeah. And I hear about people boozing. I'm like, this sounds like my fucking, like, I'm about to go do the Pro Bowl. Yeah, right. If we're boozing and kicking and doing, like, all this stuff and then hanging out. Allegedly, just hanging out by the pool. Everybody just chills.

It's like an open bar. Everybody's in there. Music, they have, like, actual musicians playing. I'm like, I can't fucking wait to get the Pro Bowl. Then I get there. I'm like, this is the fucking worst thing about it. It sucks. They invited me back.

Do you want to? No, I'm not going to the Pro Bowl. This one's in Orlando. You basically got to go do Mickey Mouse the whole time. Is this the Pro Bowl? Then they started moving it, and it's like, all right, it's cool. But I think if you made it mean something, I think a lot more people would treat it like it's something.

And I think that's like the first step. I think like that's the first step. And then once you get that to happen, then I think it can go on to be great. And if we can get these skills challenges back, when you talk about a time of content, like seeing fucking, let's just go from my kicking position. Seeing like a 75-yard kickoff between like Justin Tucker and Harrison Bucker. Yeah.

Great content. That is literally two minutes of the whole entire weekend. Great content. Seeing Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen, if you're able to get them, move it after the Super Bowl if you have to, whatever the case is. Make it a whole skills challenge thing. If you're able to get them, seeing them slice and dice a thing with an actual prize on the line and a big donation that they're fighting for.

So, like, there's some actual competitive juices. As opposed to if I go out here and I miss, who gives a fuck? It doesn't matter. Man, the AFC gets one less point. Oh, man. Oh, do you get home for the van training? No. So what's the points?

Well, you get a truck if you get the MVP. Does this point matter for that? No. No. Okay, yeah, give me the ball. I don't know. Man. Bummer.

That sucks, dude. Shit. And you can say that shallow of the players don't really care if there's something on the line both for philanthropy and for themselves. And maybe that's the case. But also, it's probably the right play. Could you imagine if a guy fucking throws out his shoulder

in the middle of that skills challenge and he's getting absolutely nothing for it at all? It's like everybody will hate him forever. So we live in a modern world where guys can't be risky. But if you make it make sense, I think we can make a good opportunity, a good skills challenge. I think personally, that's something I could do. Well, and we talked about it. It probably, I mean, it's obviously not going to happen because ESPN has it, but that's where, you know,

like if Apple's looking to get into like the NFL game, like that would have been something perfect for them to kind of dip their toes into the water. Hey, we'll, we'll take over all the pro bowl stuff and to your point when it was in hawaii it's a little bit different because guys can go out there before it you take your family it's like an actual vacation like nfl guys can go vacation wherever the fuck they want you know you've had pro bowl guys pro bowl guys yeah you've had this whole season where you've been getting your fucking head bashed in you're sore as shit and it's like hey you want to come down to orlando uh when you're probably pissed off you're not playing

in the super bowl and do a bunch of bullshit you don't want to do and there's no prizes or no money involved like and you're surprised the guys don't want to do it it just i don't think it's shallow at all like you you got it and then the guys that go they don't care like right whenever you watch there's a couple guys that care like crosby cared about it last year because it was in Las Vegas. Great time to go over if you're Max Crosby, and he did. I think that's really smart. Mack Jones obviously cared. It was his first one.

Young guy, he's doing that. And there's others that we're probably not saying, and we apologize. We know you give effort all the time. Hey, are they keeping score? Thank you. Are they keeping score? Yeah. That's right.

Trying to win. Yeah. Hell yeah. I understand those guys are out there. I appreciate and respect the hell out of those guys. Need those guys to have a good league. But for a majority of guys, it's, all right, I got one drive in this game. I'm trying to get from the left side of the field to the right side of the field

without getting anything hurt here. And then you meet the guy across from you, and you're wondering if he's thinking the same thing. And that person is all right. We got our pro boy. Yeah. And then it's just getting down the field and getting off.

And everybody talks about how bad it is. And they're trying to make a change to it, which is good. But I think you have to make it mean something. If it's going to mean something, it has to make it something. And hopefully they'll do that. You know, hopefully that'll be the case. And it'll be great content for all of us. Yeah.

And like, there is a blueprint. It's not like this is, like, a brand-new idea, like, breaking ground. It's like, hey, we need to go back to what it used to be because it's so much better than what it is now. And even the game. Like, the game has just turned into, okay, nobody's going to play it. Yeah, there's no chance of getting anybody to play any of those games. No chance.

There is no chance. Just scrap it because they don't want to play any of those games. I think they have. Okay, good. But it's seven on seven, and didn't you say, like Because they don't want to play in the NBA. Okay, good. But it's seven on seven. And didn't you say, like, guys don't want to do that either. Well, I think the guys that want to do that will do that. Which I hope is what they're doing.

I hope it's like, hey, if you want to do this, we're playing. And there is probably a prize. I'd assume there's a prize up for that whole thing. And I assume that's an opt-in situation. As opposed to, you made the football, you're in it. I hope. Just like dodgeball and all the other shit. Yes.

I think those are all opt-ins, which is what you need. Like, you need the people that are going to at least try, you know? And I think they can make it happen. Honestly, I believe they can. I think guys wouldn't mind doing that shit. How about offensive linemen, benching? That's what I'm saying. Do you remember the old O-line, D-line benching?

It was unbelievable watching the old linemen of dallas 49ers warren sapp like put 225 on the bar and throw it around for 35 40 times like it was because we see the college kids do it and everybody tunes in for it let's get the grown-ass fucking men but put a prize up there yeah like i think you've got to put a prize up there because you're not going to get these big fucks who run their heads into each other all season, sore, whole body sore. They have to stay in shape from their last game until when this is. I'm not saying everybody just stops working out or whatever, but to go do what everybody were going to want them to do, guys are going to have to fucking train for that. So for guys to stay in shape from their last game until then,

like I think you should put like let's put some fucking money into it. And you could get a sponsor to do it. I mean there are these sponsors that have so much money. So there are people right now that have more money than people have ever had in the history of anything. And there's a lot of them. All of a sudden there's like so many companies that are the wealthiest companies of all time. a sudden there's like so many companies that are

the wealthiest companies of all time it's like somebody would have to sponsor that and be like yeah we'll get our name on every big name we should sponsor it like what do we even is literally i don't know if we have the money i think it has to be a pretty big money any company who is affiliated with the nfl has the money to put like the n NFL doesn't have like rinky dink sponsors you know like just put it up any of them do a million bucks or whatever like you're never noticing that and if half of it's going to charity it's probably a write-off yeah which write-off is an interesting thing because everybody just assumes write-off you just get all that money back you don't you do not no no no it's a small percentage of that money back unless people are doing it differently than us which i assume that is

taking place because i hear people aren't paying anything you know these rich people and i'm like well how are they doing that because i'm writing big checks to this fucking government yeah and you boys are too now that you're in the uh now that you're in the world that you're in right now it's wild you hear these stories about these assholes, 1% fucking assholes. It's like, I think they're in the north of the 1%. I think they're way up there fucking everything over. So the write-off is a benefit. It is quite a benefit.

I've been accused of doing a lot of write-offs that we don't write off. And then shit that we should write off, I don't think we write off either because we don't want to raise any alarms but write-offs you get a percent it's not like everybody i think people just assume oh it's a write-off you get that money back that's not the case no zito told me i i thought it was by the way actually nice i see if i feel fucking right that's how this thing works i just bought a whole bunch of helmets zito told me i could write it all off because i use it for work. You certainly can. You certainly can write it off.

Yeah. He told me I got all the money back. I own five swords. I got all the money back, baby. Yeah. Yeah. See, that's not real. And if it is, he needs to not say that in a mic.

Yeah, they're coming. He needs to not say that into a mic. But anyways, the Pro Bowl could be awesome. I just think a company has to put some shit up. Right. Make it worth their while. Exactly. Imagine, like, some catch.

There's some catch thing. Am I Brett Favre? What's that? Am I Brett Favre with the swords? Similar. Basically, except you're not killing four people with it. Yeah, you're not targeting. That's good.

The catching one, remember? That's good. Steve Smith and Chad Johnson, like, them talking shit while they're going through. It's like a catch every five yards and then turn around and sprint back or something. Yeah, they always have a catch one, right? They run up. It's like on the line. And then the quarterback is sometimes hit or miss or whatever.

And then some catches like a one-handed catch. And it's like the throw is like right at it. And then there's some that are just insane. I think they try to set up those moments yeah which is a good idea good idea but if you get the guys competitive i think is the biggest thing yeah because they tried to do like a dunk contest this year yeah yeah yeah you remember that i do hold on what was they didn't have the pad covered no remember they could have just put a little stage on in front of that normal path Normal pad. But they just had a crash pad just laying there. But I think they had a storm.

Wasn't it like it was colder than? Oh, yeah, it was super windy. Because Russ was wearing a parka, if I remember correctly. Yeah, and then Micah Parsons didn't wear anything on the 40-yard race. Yeah, and he what? And everyone was like, that guy's a maniac. I do like the quarterback carnival. Yes, with the moving targets and that shit.

Yeah, that is cool. Back in the day, that was just golf carts driving stuff back and forth. That was awesome, too. Technology taking the quarterback carnival to the next level. Let's keep that. For sure. Let's certainly keep that in the whole thing. What if all the skill guys are doing seven on seven?

I think this would be a big hit with the offensive linemen. They do one-on-one with the defensive linemen. Yeah. And then if you get to the quarterback, if the D-line gets a quarterback, offensive lineman has to sleep in the double bed. Now we're talking. Outside time. And do 100 up-downs.

Yeah. Because you've got to stop them every time. Or else. Sorry. That's why you're in a play ball. Sorry. You know what would be cool, too? That?

What did you say? The punt return thing where they try and catch as many. Seven balls. Sorry. That's why you're in a play ball. Sorry. You know what would be cool, too? That? What would you say? The punt return thing where they try and catch as many as possible. Seven balls. Yeah. Yes. That would be sweet.

Right? It's a good idea. But not the O-line thing? No O-linemen's doing a one-on-one after October. It's not happening. Well. After October.

After October. It's the best when the D-line coach comes to the O-line coaches in October and they're like, hey, you want to do this? Fuck, no. Not a chance. Zero chance.

Hey, we can do get-offs. We can do get-offs. Let's take our first two steps and call it a day. One-on-one's a nightmare, huh, because you guys are set up to lose? Is that what the problem is? I just, you know, after October, you're on the injury report for being sore. Nobody wants to. What is that?

Why do you keep talking about Russ? Hey, look. Russ is a different. I'm just saying, nobody wants to get that little added extra hit. There's no reason for it. Just wait for it. So you guys saw it. Let's get to it, Bray.

Let's take five. See, A.J. Hawk will be joining us. That is a great idea, though, with the punt returns. But we should have, like, O-linemen and D-linemen do that stuff, too. Yeah. We should have a teammate. Yes. Should be one big guy, actual returner.

Big guy, actual returner. Yeah, exactly. Is eating contest out of it? We can get to that. Combined catches, though, I think, for that one. Then eating contest also in there for the big guys. Bench press, I think, for the big guys. So we got the big guys in the game? You can do the throwing one too the big guys Bench press I think for the big guys So we got the big guys in the game

You can do the throwing one too with big guys Have the quarterback and an old lineman Doing the target practice thing The quarterback carnival Yes Speaking of Before we get to the break Host of In the Trenches

Here on this Aaron Rodgers Tuesday October 4th, 2022. He is all the way back. Week four of the NFL season has concluded in epic fashion with the San Francisco 49ers dominating the Super Bowl champion Los Angeles Rams. Shanahan and Jimmy Garoppolo's record against the Rams goes to 9-0 or 7-0, one or the other. They have been dominant in this series, and last night was no different. The Niners' defense was fantastic. The offense appeared to be all the way back. What are the Niners going to do the rest of the season? We think great things strictly off of last night, but the league is literally changing

week to week. Colts beat the Chiefs a week ago. Colts lost to the Titans this week. The Colts stink. The Colts beat the Chiefs a week ago. The Colts are going to win the Super Bowl. That's the NFL. There's only been one man that has remained a consistent force in this entire prognostication of the NFL season. It isn't the toxic table at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. It isn't one half of the hammer.

Don, Cowboys, 10 digs. Welcome back, Tony. Thank you, baby. Tony. Thank you, baby. Tony. It isn't the in-the-trenches man himself, A.Q. Shipley, who's on the stage with us today. It is this man who's in an attic in Ohio, a man who got it right last night, a man who knew that the Niners were going to do what the Niners did last night

in Santa Clara, California, against the Super Bowl champions. He's a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup champion, COVID survivor four times, AQ. Sounds about right. Oh, what do you mean? You mean he never had it in the first place? Got it. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawk.

What's up, dude? What are you trying to say? I faked my COVID diagnosis? No, I think AQ is thinking if he survived it four times. That's been AQ's thing since the beginning. AQ, you know, has been like, all right, I understand. I mean, what are stats? It's been a full situation.

But we are happy that you survived. We're happy that AQ survived whenever he had it too. You too, Tony. Congrats, guys. Ty. Connor. ZD, baby. I had got.

It was knockout. Yes, it was. Sounds like 100%. Couldn't be both. I do think his got was acting up during the middle of COVID, which kind of put Zito's brain in a blender. He didn't know if it was the gout altogether making him feel the way he was feeling and the waves he was feeling.

His gout, the King's disease, getting a little bit more serious with me now that there's going to be a new King. Zit's gout was almost like when people have arthritis, they feel a storm coming in that's right zeke's king's disease was so strong zeke thought that there was a chance there's a new king coming and lo and behold he was right so maybe he didn't have go hey you're right zeke didn't have covid and i don't think foxy ever had covid either right never had it loser yeah look at the doorknob

i was the only one that knew it takes all of us you guys didn't know that foxy we appreciate you being the only human potentially in the united states of america other than howard stern howard stern went out to eat last night with his paws for the first time since 2020 so evan fox howard stern potentially the only people we know publicly that did not get COVID. But we're happy we passed it, right? Yeah. We're happy we passed it. It's over.

It's so soft. A.J.'s president said the pandemic's over, so we're good. So let's move on. A.J. also said, you know, not just his president, but A.J. said that the Niners were going to be a team. Yeah. A.J. said that the Niners were going to win last night.

AJ, there wasn't a dot for that entire game that the Niners weren't going to win that. That defense appeared to be faster than everybody. And then what D'Amico's doing with them is electrifying. We talked about it a little bit before we got on the show and as the show began. Normally, they run those stunts with the defensive linemen with the other guys. You know, normally the star, one-on-one, hey, you're going to get chipped. You've got to do your thing. But normally, the stunts are kind of run with the other guys to get some more production from somebody else they're running stunts to set up bosa and matt stafford felt

pressure from bosa nine times last night he had two sacks that's an impossible way to win games if you're the rams but it's because their offensive line is so damn, like, I guess it's a revolving door, not only, like, on the field, but also for who's playing for them. Is that what you knew? Is that why you picked the Niners? Because, damn, that team was awesome to watch yesterday. Well, I mean, I took the Niners, A, because I felt very confident in what their defense can do

and the studs they have on their defense. And Fred Warner is so fun to watch play as a middle back. Like, that dude is always in charge. He's always around the ball. Both of their whole front seven, like, everybody gets so much pressure. It feels like every single play. Like, even if you're not getting pressure, you have to be aware of it. You have to always be shuffling around the pocket worried about it.

And then their DBs in the back end. I mean, pick six, like, what are we doing here? They almost, like, not a perfect game, but they play damn good, man. And they're fun to watch. Hell, yeah. And this is an incredible graphic here by Dirty. We appreciate that. they almost like not a perfect game but they play damn good man and they're fun to watch hell yeah and this is an incredible graphic here by dirty we appreciate that but if you look at the ranking they're at the top of it for everything and then on the offensive side of the ball they get a new running back dropped in that fucking guy's fastening everybody on the field so all right

so they got wide open holes he's fastening everybody debo samuel is now aq shipley's here who obviously was player coach jackie in the NFL Super Bowl champion. He reminded me before he went on air. I don't know if you guys could hear him because you might have heard it. He goes, hey, who FaceTimed you early last year and said this Debo Samuel guy? And that was AQ. You've been on the wideback Debo Samuel from the beginning. Last night, he proves yet again in his press conference.

He goes, I've broken a lot of tackles in my career. Yeah, because he has that long one or whatever. He's a guy, man. Absolutely could not lose him this offseason. Smart move, getting him back in the building and paying him. I'd assume you feel the same way. Yeah, I mean, he's my favorite player in the NFL to watch. And for two years now, probably longer, he does all the dirty work. He blocks. He goes into the backfield and does the running back stuff he's obviously an incredible receiver right he's the same type of player as him and Chris Godwin are so good when they get that ball on the quick screen just getting vertical and he does everything for that team it's incredible yeah he's awesome to watch turn over you also on defense

Troy Paul Moller is coaching up maybe the next Troy Paul Malou and Dallin O'Hofanga. I heard you're getting his jersey. I might. Oh, you didn't actually? Okay. So that was your maybe voice. That was his maybe voice, AJ. I don't know if you heard that in the first hour.

He said, you know, when I said that, Jelani Woods didn't, because he was getting an echo like he was talking in a stadium and he's dealing with it for the first time, because it's just the second day in this studio, which I guess they have new tech and different tech than me. Whenever he talked about Jelani Woods knocking a lot of snaps on offense because he missed chapel on Sunday

and Frank Reich was punishing him, that was taken seriously, like, on the internet by some people. So had to clear that up. Did they not know who said it? Well, that's the thing with the internet, you know. It's a rating quote. I think some people saw it. Yeah.

Did it say love Tone Diggs at the end of it? Oh, okay, it was Diggs. No, but they didn't put the asterisk on it and say said in maybe voice, which is a very clear thing if you were to listen to it. So it's kind of difficult to do that. But the whole thought about you telling me you're buying that guy's jersey literally right before we go on air, and then now you're buying that guy's jersey literally right before we go on air and then now you're kind of backing off it can't have it we just pledged a

million dollars to jordan boyer okay maybe why would you not buy it maybe a jersey i'm not a big jersey i'm not a big jersey guy jersey's much smarter by the way i see i see people used to buy people used to buy my jersey it was a wild thing i didn't understand it either if you're watching and asking didn't make any sense they were very expensive there was a lot of them sold made no sense every time i saw somebody on it i would literally wearing it i would literally stop what i was doing and i would say thank you so much for spending way too much money on that should have got a jersey instead literally should have just got a jersey instead would have had the same outcome i appreciate it sign it normally keep it moving the jersey is the right play yeah i honestly believe the jersey is the right play.

Oh, yeah. People wear jerseys on a regular basis, though, still. Oh, yeah. In that suite next to us at the game, there was jersey eye black on. Can't do that. Eye black. What did you say? Can't do that.

What was the roof open? I think it was awesome. It was awesome. What do you mean can't do that? It was awesome. It was awesome. Thank you you mean can't do that? It was awesome. It was awesome. Thank you, Foxy. Cool.

If the roof's open, you're allowed because the sun. Well, I end the window. I end the window. Hey, aren't there suites down there, Pat? Aren't they just open? You guys don't intermingle in all the boxes down there on the thing? Feels like it sometimes. I mean, it does.

It has a good vibe like that. Yeah. Come one, come all. Very good vibe. Big community. Big commune. That's cool, man. I started wearing cleats until the. Come one, come all. Big community. Big community. That's cool, man. I started wearing cleats to the game.

Ooh, good move. You need to, please. That's what you need to do. If you're wearing eye black, you better have shoulder pads, holding a helmet, football pants, cleats. Cup. You better wear a cup. You're better off just writing douche on your floor.

No! Just saying. Not that guy. Not that guy. That's sweet. on your floor. No! Just saying. Not that guy. Not that guy. That's sweet. Not this guy. That's not cool. Not this guy.

Yeah, he was on camera at one point, obviously. Getting him up. Like Fireman A. Like LeFleur. Yeah. Like LeFleur. Yeah, I can't stand that either. What?

What's your problem? This guy doesn't like excited stadiums. What's this all about, AJ? You don't like fans. Sorry, guys. Oh, sorry. You don't like fans. Sorry, guys. Oh, sorry. You don't like the energy. I do like fans.

There's a big difference between some slappy who's boozed up down there with eye black on getting people up on the jumbotron and the fucking head coach doing the sideline. Whoa, dude. Yeah. You got to pump it up. You got to pump it up. You got to pump it up. You got to pump it up. You got to pump it up. You got to pump it up.

You got to pump it up. You got to pump it up. What is this from? AQ hates fans, too. Yeah. He wasn't pumping them up. I just looked at AQ. He's been staring into the kitchen thinking about Rice Krispie treats for the past fucking

time. No, he's on a diet. 25 minutes. He's on a diet. Somebody makes him. past fucking... Nah, he's on a diet. 25 minutes. He's on a diet. I just watched him. He's on a diet. That boy was doing it. You had no problem with that boy doing it.

I think there's a picture of me in a Colts uniform getting the crowd fired up. I'm pretty sure there is. Let's go. Yeah. You know what there isn't a photo of? AJ with his hands up. No.

With Wiz Khalifa on the stage. Yeah, there is. I said it to you guys. No, never seen it. Only time he put his hands up was to flip off Wiz Khalifa on the stage. That's right. I said it to you. No, never seen it. Only time he put his hands up was to flip off the fans in the crowd, actually. Wiz Khalifa, Radio Row. I wonder if we're getting invited back. What are you talking about?

You performed with Wiz Khalifa at the Super Bowl. What? What? What? The Miz had one of the greatest fuck-ass of all time. Yeah, and he also poked his head out at him. Yeah. Yeah, what a time.

That was awesome. Did Wiz know that you were featuring on that with him? Let's go. I don't think he knew. Yeah, AQ is a big-time crowd guy. He also cuts the gloves off the hands because he wants to feel the eyes as he's gouging. Right? Is that what it is?

Big bell man. Is that what it is? Just one hand. That's on a snapping hand. Does that say, don't tread on me on the back of your tricep right there? That was the old high school, get your initials on the back. That's how he became a Hall of Famer. Yeah.

Goddamn right. Super Bowl champ. I do like the fact that he has those snapping fingies out. You know what I mean? Because I couldn't wear a glove on my right hand either. I like to feel the ball. Is that right? Same thing for you.

That's exactly right. Yeah, you make sleevelesses, and he cuts the fingers off his glove. I don't think you're the only one, right? A lot of people do this in the center community. I thought they'd make them like that. Why didn't you wear UFC gloves? Ooh. That would have been sweet.

Yeah, then I wouldn't get as much. Because you're in fight camp now, right? That's right. That's right. How's that going, AQ? It's going really good. Really good. Thanks for asking, AJ. These guys make a mockery of it. No! now right that's right that's right how's that going aq it's going really good really good thanks for asking aj these guys make a mockery of it but no we are happy about it last week you called

make sure you was there boom i called to wake you up yeah i heard about what time your fight camp was yeah i called you 20 minutes beforehand to call and make sure you're awake because you had a long travel i want to make sure you got the fight camp you're fucking a part of a fight team now wtf that's what's called waltz training facility that's a guy's basement he's training You're awake because you had a long travel. I want to make sure you got the fight camp. You're fucking a part of a fight team now, dude. WTF. That's what it's called. Walt's Training Facility. That's the guy's basement that he's training at.

Assume this guy's name is Walt. It's his house. It's a nice house, but they're on a fight club down in the basement. Is there any rules? Yeah, I mean, there's nothing on the ground. You're allowed to talk about it. He's talking about it. Okay, that's good.

I thought it was jujitsu. No, no, no, no. We're just hitting mitts. Hs hitting heavy bags spark you guys are like shadow boxing like shadow boxing just to kind of get a feel for you know how to how to cover up you know we need to schedule you a fight anyone in there goes like too hard everything nah we're not gonna go there does everybody wear the same gloves when they go in there is it gee no see i found this out the hard way. Apparently, you're supposed to wear heavier gloves,

and it doesn't hurt whenever you're hitting as much. I got the lighter gloves. Four ounces less than everybody else. Everybody else is throwing pillows. This guy comes in with fucking bare knuckle boxing. Yeah, they don't like him. They're not real happy about it. Jake Lazor is pissed by it.

Fucking A.Q. Shipley came in here. Fucking heavy hands tried to knock me out. Almost had to kick his ass out of the fight club. I think you did a Twitter video last week. Talked about it. I didn't even see that. Yeah. We'll send it to you.

Is Gary Vee involved? No. He wasn't. No. You all right? What's wrong, Pat? Sweet Jordans. Thank you. Appreciate that. They live in the locker room now,

so they're always here for me. That is probably what Jay Glazer said. And I know AQ was sucking wind, and he said, Hey, AQ, I didn't hear no bell. And then boom. You guys should set up like a charity fight, I didn't hear no bow. And then boom. So I'm ready. You guys should set up like a charity fight, like an exhibition.

Yeah, AQ versus Jay Glazer. Raise money for charity. No, listen. Remember, this guy, he's won. If he was to do what me and Jay did on a Super Bowl thing, this guy's paralyzed probably. Remember, cannot be involved in any physical, but he's in there shadow boxing in some dude's basement. You know, like as friend, I'm kind of worried. What are we doing in here, dude?

Oh, I'm on a fight team. I'm on a fight. Oh, you're on a fight team. Okay, so. Do you really say he's on a fight team or no? Yes. You should see the text messages we get. It says fight practice tomorrow morning, 8 a.m.

Dude, it is awesome. I'm so happy he's found something. You know, he loves the guys that he's in there with. Seems like a high-risk kind of thing, though, when the guy can get paralyzed with one touch. Yeah, I don't let people touch me. Oh, good, good. It's a big thing. Too quick.

Doesn't JJ? I do not want to see that. You leaked the information about his heart? Oh, I didn't do that. No, I thought it was you and Rich Ornberger. You guys were at fight camp. And you guys were rolling around. That JJ Watt shit was awesome.

And he did like the tweet, so I believe he heard our take on it. So I think we can assume that it was accurate. Not us saying, JJ said, my heart stopped yesterday. It's beating today. I'm playing football tomorrow. Like he didn't actually say that, but that's what, how the tweet read. Right. It was like, yo, this guy almost fucking died.

Was probably told could have died if didn't get it taken care of. And then a few days later, he's playing football against like, that's a JJ Watt. Right. Like that is what JJ Watt is. Cause you see the gifts of the broken nose with the blood running, the dancing in Houston, that entire city ran off of how J.J. went. And I think it's like the character, I'm not saying that as, you know, saying it's separate from the human,

but J.J. Watt has become a full thing. You know, like a J.J. Watt thing is like, I bring energy what leadership what grit what more grit more grit like that's what jj watt is almost like that's what you think of when you think of jj watt so like that whole situation um i was excited to kind of see him get him i don't say emotional about it but like realize like man i got a kid on the way like he was almost a human for a second there and then it made me realize like oh that shit was pretty serious at last week and look he's on the fucking field again like that's that's old school age it's a it's a wild i'm happy for him i'm pumped for him and i'm thankful that i got to

play in the same league as him but that dude's a fucking animal bro a fucking animal out there well it's like anything to do with your heart has to be just, I can't imagine how scary that would be when you realize, like, something is up with my heart, no matter how serious it could or might not be. But, like, yeah, to think of going through that the week of a game, and then what's he feel like during warm-ups? Like, what if he's like, oh, man, I don't know. I just feel like he would be anxious for a while during that game.

I completely forgot about, about like yeah you you first get your first like little winded you get a little winded and warm up somehow and all of a sudden you start feeling like your chest is tight it's like oh is this normal is this what i normally feel like or is this oh that's a whole thing i mean you i don't want to say it was a heart injury but you had an uh injury that was obviously scary the whole like can change your life injuries is a lot deeper i think right and i think we watch it with jj there yeah i mean it's crazy you could see kind of him being pretty emotional after the game right i mean it's like it could almost been taken like that right

perspective the crazy thing is i mean he literally has that thing done and he's back out the next day well then it's a ball save the game yeah That's right. Don't cry, JJ. You tipped the ball. JJ, you tipped the ball. JJ, you tipped the ball. You tipped the ball. You tipped the ball. You tipped the ball.

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You tipped the ball. You tipped the ball. You tipped the ball. You saved the game. Come on. Yeah, the boys played good. I almost fucking died last week, bud. But, yeah, it was a great game. You're right. I did.

JJ Swat won, didn't I? What if he would have died? I don't know. All right, let's dive in to some more news around the NFL. The Eagles are the number one seed in the NFC. And they currently have a top five pick from the New Orleans Saints. This whole situation with the Eagles from going to, you know, Super Bowl, them becoming a laughingstock almost from outside. We were wondering which building's on fire more, the Houston Texansans which we've all seen and heard about it was on fire

or the philadelphia eagles who go to a super bowl fans celebrate for the first time in 50 years eat poop off the streets yeah remember thank you who was doing that who fans john's bro what are you talking about just eating poop because they were so happy yeah bro some fucking john bro what is this guy come on you guys reference it all the time i need to know if this is real or not whether eating like horse poop from the parade or yes yes do some john bro the night they won the super bowl they were eating poop off the street in that poop just because well the horse actually ate a cheesesteak from dallas andros and that's what people were actually saying is hey hey, eat that horse shit,

it's way better than Gino's or Pat's. Yeah. And they did. They did. And then some John goes over there and then some other John

eats the John and then they're all like, yeah, we won the John. Yeah, they won the John. And the John was Lombo for the first time

in 50 years. And then they built a goddamn statue of the two people, Philly, Philly, that whole thing. Everybody's gone. Everybody's gone build a goddamn statue of the two people, Philly, Philly, that whole thing. Everybody's gone. Everybody's gone. Two people in a statue, fucking, they don't even survive another year. Fucking, that quarterback's gone to Jacksonville, to Chicago, to the Colts. If he's not playing right by now, I mean, that tells you what

you need to know. He had a hell of a run. Hey, congrats, dude. Everybody be named. Super Bowl champ. And then Doug Peterson, he's turned around the Jacksonville Jaguars, maybe. I mean, this past week against Philadelphia Eagles in his reunion with Philadelphia, his homecoming, if you will, with a place that he has a statue of him outside of the stadium. They didn't do that great. He's gone. Carson Wentz is gone. Everybody's dead.

Joe Douglas is gone. Everything stinks in Philadelphia. And all the Johns in Philly are like oh of course of course can't have anything good for too long and then somehow the Colts go Sirianni get the fuck out of here you gotta be the head coach offense coordinator for the Philadelphia Eagles yep you start cutting promos and press conferences that sound hysterical absolutely hilarious but behind the scenes you get the entire team to buy in to one mission you get incredible leadership from like jason kelsey and the boys who just saw the world implode before

then love the city of philadelphia would like to see the eagles get back to being great like they were just like three years beforehand and you get a jalen hurts dude then you trade for a weapon on draft night then all of a sudden the city's back the team's good and they're the only undefeated fucking team in the NFL. And they have a top five pick and the future looks very bright. I mean, these Eagles fans, these Johns everywhere, have been the top John all the way down to bottom John.

You know what I mean? They've been through all the Johns just in three years, and it seems like they're back on top of the world for good, AJ, at least for the next five, ten years. And I'm happy for them. I'm happy for the Johns. I'm really happy. I'm happy for Jones. I'm really happy. I'm happy for Sirianni, especially how he came on the scene and what happened here on this show and Ty

and everyone not really taking him too seriously at first. But I think as the season went, we knew this guy is legit and he's on the show tomorrow, I believe, right? 12.35, it has been confirmed he'll be on tomorrow, Eastern Standard Time. I'm excited to talk to him, though, about, like, as we were potentially reenacting press conferences. Thank you. Showing our homage.

Yeah, paying homage. To the man. Right. This form of flattery. It was how we learned about him, almost. Then we heard from some people, like, man, that's pretty similar to what that John's like. It's pretty similar. You know, that's just people. what that John's like. It's pretty similar. We'll find out when we talk to him, hopefully.

Hopefully he gets comfortable enough that we get to see him. He opens up and has – He seems always comfortable. That's why I think people love him there because we say it all the time. If you're authentic, man, whatever that may be, people will, I think, respect that at least. And if you're winning winning people will absolutely love what you are he's a deep thinker which we enjoy on this particular show yeah he cares we we know he cares a lot and he really really wants to win like that definitely comes through and he got the

team to buy in i think and that's why eagles fans are so fucking pumped they have the identity of philadelphia they're winning they're buying in sirianni's not just a fucking cookie cutter coach it's like what a good time to be an eagle fan when it was looking like itni's not just a fucking cookie-cutter coach. It's like, what a good time to be an Eagle fan when it was looking like it was over again just a couple years back. Yeah, probably the quickest turnaround I feel like we might have seen ever. And also, it wasn't as if it took time

for Sirianni to become Sirianni in his opening press conference. He gave us the equation for his success, which was less thinky, more athlete. More dewy. Dewy, yeah. Oh, no more athlete takeover. Takeover.

There it is, yeah. So it wasn't as if he, like, was trying to be somebody. Like, he's just been Sirianni from the get-go. That's why it's so easy to root for the guy. Well, we did have to bury that opening press conference. That's good. What are we supposed to do? People talk about it.

The message was good, though. The message was good. Hey, I don't want my guys thinking. I want them flying around and having fun and hitting people and scoring points. And that's what they do. Well, and that's what I think we're learning through the Sirianni era. It's like, hey, the way he talks is a little bit different than everybody else, but the message seems to ring true.

It's like when Jim Irsay was tweeting. You know? What the fuck is this guy saying? It's like, well, you've got to pick through. There's a message in there somewhere. All right? And that message is probably deeper than what you were thinking, through what he's, there's a message in there somewhere. All right. And that message probably deeper than what, you know, you were thinking Jim Mercy's potential doc.

There's some people that the way they deliver their words or their message is a little bit different than what other people do. So your natural reaction is to judge it. This is like, you know, when people, you know, listen to a song and some people listen to the beat of the song and like it or hate it. And some people listen to the lyrics in the song and like it or hate it. And some people listen to the lyrics and like the song or they hate it. And if you listen to the lyrics,

sometimes a song that is shit because the beat is bad is actually pretty deep. And it always seems like a person's either a beat person or a lyric person. And Sirianni's lyrics have fucking, seems like they've cracked the case, cracked the code over there in Philly. And I enjoy it.

I can't wait to fucking talk to that guy tomorrow well it's your point too about like karen you know we heard what josh allen said after seeing the stuff with ken dorsey going ape shit in the uh the coach's box like sirianni gets fired up on the sidelines you can tell how much he wants to win he wants to protect his guys everyone remembers in the preseason game when jalen Hurts got blasted and he was yelling across the field at Salah like hey what the fuck was that Salah you know like he cares he really does and these guys love him and it's obviously it's a lot easier to kind of fall in line and fall and pick up what he's putting down when you're winning games like if they would have sucked last year but that they went to the playoffs. So it's like, how can you deny what he's doing?

It's just like in Miami with McDaniel. I'm happy they're having success because he doesn't have to change at all. You know? Oh, I mean, that's like we say, if you win, you can do whatever you want. You basically can get away with anything. And so you can show your personality. Also with Sirianni and McDaniel down in Miami, they always talk about coaches.

Hey, I want my guys, like I want to let you be you. Be an individual, but obviously we're all working for the same goal. Be you. Keep the same kind of message, but also like have fun. I don't want to stifle any of your personality because I know that's when you play the best. I think both these coaches too, like players see that. Hey, these guys are real. Like they're not putting on an act for the media, for us.

So we feel comfortable doing the same. Hey, congrats to the Eagles. John Stein. Oh, yeah. John Stein. Hell yeah. If they somehow fall apart, it will be nice. Why are you putting that John out there? I'm not saying they will. I'm saying like any team, if you start out hot,

everyone's expectations are so high. What's this John's problem, dude? Am I saying John right, by the way? I think so. You ever seen Creed? They're using it the same way they do it in Creed. Adonis goes to order a cheesesteak for the first time with his girlfriend. Vince Papali

with the Johns on it. He's acting like a real Porter John right now. Poopy John? No, I say that's not. I think it's J-A-W-N. Thank you. That one is J-A-H-N. Bank up. Poor John. There's no T? That one is J-A-H-N. John.

John. John. John. Like go for it. I think that's, is that Baltimore? A John? Yes, actually it is. Is that Baltimore or is that Philadelphia?

No, I believe it's PG County, Baltimore. Yeah, I think that's John. Okay. Is a Baltimore. I think. If I know correctly, because there's a lot of players from there on the Duquesne team, and I heard a lot of Jonts. One of our friends, rest in peace, changed his name from John to Jont while he was at college at Duquesne.

That's sweet. Yep. Legend. Legend. Rest in peace, Jont. Legally did like legally did that Yeah Pretty much

I mean it was At one point he was a doctor too He was Dr. John And it was Good for this guy Rest in peace dude Hey John You did it dude

Best wedge breaker of all time All time dude We're talking Football player He was He was ready to go out there And Whatever it took. I mean, every play.

Every play like that. Jont was a legend, dude. Rest in peace, dude. Yeah, but I think Jont's Baltimore. Got it. And that's the only reason. I think. I'm not 100% sure.

Because I was a little bit alarmed whenever I learned that we had a new name. You know what I mean? Yeah. Hey, anybody see Jont? It's Jont. I missed something. What is Jont? Oh, J, anybody see John? It's John. I missed something. What is John? Oh, John.

It could be anything. But it's my name. And I'm like, all right, so that's John and John. And I think Philly and Baltimore, we might be wrong about this, and I assume the comment section, some John or John is letting us know whether or not we're right. But that's a close area. How come everybody doesn't just have like a version of that?

I'm getting in the comments section, J-A-W-N is Philadelphia. John. Yeah, John. There was a recent cop show in Baltimore, and it sounded like a Philly accent. I think those two accents are very. Yeah, they're close. Yeah. I think Philly and Baltimore are close, right?

I mean, they're only an hour and 20 minutes away from each other, right? Baltimore. You tell me. I think it's like an hour and 20 minutes away. He lives in Baltimore for a good bit of time and also lived in Philly. What's that? Balmore. What was that?

Balmore. Now, T. Balmore? Just a crossover. Balmore. Balmore. That's where the Johns are? That's where Balmores are.

I've been to Balmore a couple times. I enjoy Balmore. Hey, we shut it down. Shut it down. What a night. And by the way, I've been meaning to say this for some time. Sure. If you ever find yourself in Balmore,

there's this place that's run by just like the worst people of all time. Scum of the earth. But their restaurant and atmosphere is maybe the best in the country. Yeah, second to none. Jimmy's is the name. Famous seafood. I think they ship nationwide too. They have the best crab cakes of all time. I don't know how they do it

because the people that are making it. What? They still selling COVID? Well, I don't know. They had a good sale on a two for one, they were saying. That's why AJ got four times. Yep. He only went to Jimmy's twice. Why do you hate these people?

Why do you hate the people that run the place? Because they suck. It's so good. Well, Connor has his own reasons. Yeah. I, because crab cakes are too good. So good. So it's hard to eat any other crab cakes after you eat their crab cakes.

So, you know, when you don live in balmore and you don't have any giant friends you know you automatically say well fuck you because you kind of ruined my crab cake experience have you tried the cicada cakes so i didn't try that but i did go down to the bakery and they had this nice covered carrot cake and it was delicious so good if you want to be out 10 11 days, two negatives needed. Yep. A couple slices of that thing gets you right. They do have a bakery, though.

It's unbelievable. It really is. It's the nicest bakery I've ever seen. Jimmy Seafood does? Yeah. It's in the basement. It's fucking unbelievable. This guy had a TV show. Shaped Head did a TV show on the Food Network a long time ago in Baltimore.

It was when those shows were big. Guy Fieri. Dude, this guy used to go to places because they had the little Guy Fieri thing. Wasn't that your thing? I would literally Google it and I'd be like, all right. This was a thing. This was a thing. Carlo?

It's only an hour and ten minutes away. Yep, we're going. Hop in the car, go straight to a Triple D place. And you get to a place and there's a spray-painted Guy Fieri head on the wall. That's how you know he's playing. That's sweet. Oh, yeah. Did they do Jimmy's, I wonder?

Should have. I think they did. I assume so. I think they did. Had to. Place is so good. Assholes running it, though. Yeah, anytime.

Can't follow UNC alumnus, too. You know what I mean, AJ? I don't know what you mean at all, but yeah. Crab cakes, luckily, are not really on my radar. Dude. What? Do you do any seafood at all? They got these scallops.

Oh, yeah. I like seafood, but this crab cake's a consistency. I'm a consistency guy, and that whole, that's just not my thing. No, that's why they. I would try it for sure. They'll ship it to your house. You're going to pay them, though, because, listen, they all run a business. That's right.

It's not quite boiled chicken, but you might like it. I grill chicken. I don't boil it. Same thing. Of course. Boiled chicken's gross. For the college football... Really? Compared to grilled chicken, yeah. For the college football primetime with our show on

Saturday night, this dude was trying to order Cheesecake Factory's grilled chicken from two hours out to this place. I need it so bad. I need grilled chicken tonight. Can't even think about eating. Are you guys going to have wings there?

I'm trying to order for everybody. I'm trying to get you your little hot dog deals you like. A Monkita. Oh, good. I'm glad I didn't find it. A Monkita. A Monkita. Do you eat Cheesecake Factory every night?

Is that what you do? I don't ever have it in Ohio. I only have it really when I'm with you guys because here they don't deliver it where I'm at. And so it's like I'm not going to go in there. You are so good with your diet. I have a lot of respect for it. I just saw Dana White say that, you know, my nutritionist and I think Dr. Joe Rogan was even saying that you don't really hear of any essential carbohydrates. But you do hear of essential fats and essential oils and everything

because he was defending the keto diet because he has lost a lot of weight. He looks great. He looks very good. And somebody talks about him, how it isn't sustainable or whatever. And he was talking about how his scientists and then also the people that were interviewed on Rogan are like, do you ever hear of an essential carbohydrate? You don't, you hear about everything else. It's basically in the keto thing. I do keto. I enjoy it. I love it. There's this new bread. I'm not going to say the name because it's not out yet, so I don't want to put it into people's.

There's a bread coming out for keto people, though. We did it. Game changer. We did it. If what they're saying is true, it's true because that's like a big thing. It would have to be, I guess, because they're going to be a legit company and they're going to launch but it's the keto thing is great for me but i do feel like i'm going to die at some point because my heart's just going to stop because i'm just you know like how how can this be good for me what i mean to be all right i mean i'm eating like a steak a burger

you know give me some uh i'll eat some bacon you know give me some eggs in there some cheese i'm like yeah that's great i'm doing it and then i'm like everything i just put in my mouth i was told for my entire life like hey gonna stop your ticker you know and then now that's all i'm eating it's an interesting little game changer this keto don't worry about our earliest ancestors did it and they didn't even cook the meats okay so liver king here i've seen what you've been doing the last two weeks during paternity leave you're talking about the primals? Yeah. What's that guy's deal? Just living like he would.

He's everywhere. 10 BC. He's everywhere, dude. Do you know Liver King? Yeah, he's definitely taken. Whoa! More than. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. He can't look like that.

He can't look like that. Sorry, he's not in your fight camp. Yeah, that's all he eats. And he just eats liver. He only eats like raw. Dude. raw organs. That lifts your testosterone because you're eating liver. You're eating something that already has it in there,

so it's naturally going to be boosting it. You believe that? Boom. Hell yeah. Boom. Count them. All the abs, AQ. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.

That's what you're saying, Stu, JQ. It doesn't mean you're going to bring him down. No one in the locker room looks like that? Well, a couple guys, but they did fail. They did. Whoa. No need to say names here. No need to say names.

I thought he was yoked. Who? There's a lot of yoked guys. I don't look like that. Well, I will say, LeBron did kind of. I mean, LeBron was unbelievable. You should have seen that. And what was he eating?

Organs. And? He wasn't eating liver. QBs. I don't think LeBron was eating. LeBron was awesome. Whoa, you looked awesome. You look better than this guy, whoa.

Just want to let you know that. And that's a big compliment, I think, for whoa. He would do like 30 sets. You know how people do reps? Yeah. He would do like 30 sets, I guess, at night, like in L.A. Fitness. Jesus. Just a little late-night pump. How you doing? Not in the facility like 30 sets i guess at night like an la fitness he does just a little late night pump how you doing 30 sets aj yeah well in the facility too what are you talking about

we had 20 sets at lunch two days this dude the amount of work he put in was so jacked so fucking jocked dude so jocked first day he walked in jesus fucking christ oh my god and i've watched professional wrestling my entire life so like you know there's dudes that are jocked that are walking around lauron langer walked in i was like this fucking guy holy shit now what aq was alluding to i think he did accidentally take a supplement that was tainted that he did not know about okay so he failed a test we do not know if Liver King has done something similar. He took a little of that fast acting. What was that stuff that really got you going?

Deer antler spray. Anno Explode. Anno Explode. That shit got pulled from the market, right? Oh, yeah. Oh, it's still out there. What? It's not the original version.

It's like the Mickey Mouse. What's the drink that we use? loco for loco it's like that how they had to dumb it down yeah not kill people is that what you mean is that what you meant to say these days couldn't handle it well i don't think kids are days but either that's why they had that's why they had uh we were actually the ones that couldn't handle it our generation i believe couldn't handle it. Our generation, I believe, couldn't handle it. Now, this generation definitely could not have. But I don't know if this is a fight that we just get to go. You soft fucking punks.

I don't know if that's our thing. All right, let's move on to some other news from last night. Obviously, Bobby Wagner had the greatest tackle in the history of the NFL. There have been others, a belly-to-back suplex from James Harrison. Anthony Schlegel has taken out a kid on storming a field situation with a rock bottom wearing khakis. That is awesome. Last night, Bobby Wagner on the Peyton and Eli Monday Night Manning broadcast

was shown bombing a protester on the sideline of a game. Now, Patty Piero is going to bust out here because I do believe we have to kind of make sure we zoom in on some facts. Because there's people, after I put out a tweet calling Bobby Wagner a hero, they're attacking me for the usage of hero. Had a couple military people say,

he ain't no hero. And I agree. I'm sorry that in the way I wrote hero there, it was automatically assumed that I thought Bobby Wagner headhunting a fucking maniac was anywhere near as heroic as like, you know, firefighters that run into fires and save kids. Or like cops that get in the way, or like the military that's over there doing their thing. Like, no way did I. You weren't insinuating that either. No, by the way, think they're heroes too. Different levels. With that being said, pretty big hero movie.

If you heard Peyton Manning react in real time, oh, nice hit. Nice hit. Veteran play. You heard George Kittle go, that was awesome. That you heard george kiddell go that was awesome that's literally what george kiddell said that was awesome every player that you've heard talk about this situation has gone fucking awesome because every player has said for a long time how come these guys are able to get so fucking close if they're able to jump onto the field with a smoke device this dude's got a fucking smoke stick in his left hand.

People are like, yeah, that's all he had. How the fuck do you know that a human who's sprinting right at your bench, I mean, he was running directly at this bench this way, and then he turned around and ran north up the sideline. Obviously, you should know that somebody who has a smoke stick and was able to get that onto the field has nothing else. And if they're running onto a football field with millions of people watching along, let's assume they're very passionate about their message, which we

have an appreciation for. Whatever this person is protesting. I'm sure they're very passionate about it. I'm sure it's a worthy cause that they are protesting. With that being said, it's fucking illegal. You're putting a lot of people's lives potentially at risk. You're holding up everybody else's life. Nobody paid to come fucking watch you do this. I understand what you are doing is worthy. But if we continue to just say that these people are awesome and this is what needs to happen, it'll continue to be a trait that people do. We don't need that. We need fucking people to do their thing. We appreciate your passion, but stay the fuck off the field.

And if you have a smoke stick, how is much appreciate the fact that this dude has his head up. You know, he didn't tuck his head at all. Kept that chin up, didn't he, AJ? He wanted to make eye contact with Bobby Wagner. Well, that kid's never been hit before. Well, it did appear that way as the kid was running or whatever. Bobby could have hit him way harder, by the way. Bobby definitely did not give it everything.

I agree. Could have went actual onto cranium. He doesn't. He hits him in the chest, knocks him down, helps out the security, walks off, doesn't do anything after. Hey, doesn't mean any harm. Just wants to end the situation in the safest way possible. I think that that is a heroic move for the situation. Not a bigger hero than cops, military, firefighters, teachers,

anybody that you want to label in putting first responders, front line, like any of those people, it's a different world. But in this situation, this needs to happen more often. And I think that's exactly what you heard from all the players. And I'll take it one step further. You know, like dahmer or they knew right this dude did it this guy's got fucking bodies in the apartment okay heads heads in the apartment i think there should have been an opportunity to post him up in downtown

milwaukee or wherever the fuck he was and just a donation okay to the families or whatever 20 20 bucks you punch dahmer right in the face just one time just right in the face and then you can go and just a donation, okay, to the families or whatever, 20, 20 bucks, you punch Darmer right in the face, just one time, just right in the face, and then you can go back in line if you want to, and then somebody else can come through, boom. You play stupid games, you win stupid prizes sometimes, and I think we have to remind people of that. There's a lot of people coming after me.

There's people coming after me for saying that about Bobby. He's going to be sued. That's a lawsuit. He did wrong. He's 241 pounds.. That's a lawsuit. He did the wrong. He's 241 pounds. That's just a kid. That is just a kid out here. How about this?

Oh, Patty, you sound like the police chief of Hicksville defending a bad cop from unnecessary force. What? Bobby was in the wrong. He's a 240-pound man wearing armor. He's going to have to settle because it's a pretty good open and shut case. Stay in your lane. The world needs less heroes. Now, this could be a troll account jumping into the situation,

but there was tweets just like this from actual humans in abundance last night to me. I actually had to follow up and say, like, to the people that are saying he's going to get sued, get the fuck out of here. You are what's wrong with America. This guy trespasses. Who knows what he has? Gets his ass blown up because he's out running security, spends a night in jail, and then he's going to be the one who's going to get paid for it. That's what people want to like.

Even if, let's say, that does happen, which I don't think it's possible because I think you're doing an illegal act. I'm not sure you have the right to sue, but I'm not a fucking lawyer. Never will be. Never. Can't read enough books. We have a book club. Never done it. But with that being said, you shouldn't want that to be the way life is anyways you know aj like that's i have so many

problems with it all and i appreciate the fact that bobby wagner came out and said security looked like they were struggling i was just trying to help them out and then i got on my way you don't know what that guy has we have no idea what that guy has on him and that's really real chapelle show somebody comes up with a knife other people have done stuff it's like people can sneak shit in especially if they're willing to get on the fucking field and i think every player agrees with that aj i apologize for going long that i was getting attacked last night and i was like so fucking flustered like how how is anybody how is anybody on that side that's how people are though that those same people that are saying he's going to be sued or he should be sued yeah i'm

sure you can try i hope it doesn't go through. I hope it doesn't work. But those are the same people where they think it's all right for somebody to sue. Say I'm a criminal. I break into your house. You beat the hell out of me. You put me in the hospital. I get to sue you because you beat the hell out of me, even though I broke into your house to try to hurt you or your family. Like people do that. They sue in those situations, too. It's wild. It's a wild world that we're in and i understand that i guess that's a loophole where people are able to do it but it doesn't mean you should be rooting for that like that ain't hey come on and you i mean if anyone yeah whatever happens like this is bobby was absolutely right you're damn right we don't know what he has on this we this dude could have anything on well that's what bobby said you

don't know what that fan got or what they're doing you see it all all the time, and we don't know what they're carrying in their pockets. It's whatever that little smoke stuff is, but that shit could be dangerous. But if you're able to get a smoke stick in the game, okay, let's assume that you're potentially able to do anything else. And I think plastic has the ability to be created into a lot of things. Not that anybody on the Rams' sideline, when they saw this person run up, was like, oh, I'm scared that this person's gonna hurt me that's like an absurd thing to think about but also this motherfucker is just running at

our sideline we have no idea who they are obviously like you're allowed to be like hey get the fuck away from like that is something we should be completely okay with and i guess there's some people that aren't that's wow to me i think i was too naive to that i gotta know there's repercussions if you do shit like this it's just as simple as that because if they just let this guy run around and run around and then they just kind of corral him and take him on the field we're gonna have four to five of these people doing this every single game and to aj's point like bobby wagner could have fucking killed this guy he could have put the crown of his helmet down and put his fucking lights out but he didn't he just fucking look at us football people being good people well and you saw it like at the start of the video there's

the other security guy who like blows his knee out or something trying to run after him it's like hey sometimes like we've all talked about the whalen security people that they had you know you got an 85 year old bag of bones like guess what if they can't get the job done one of these guys will and and if you're not ready for those repercussions don they can't get the job done one of these guys will and and if you're not ready for those repercussions don't don't get on the fucking field in the future people have to know they can't do it too exactly because let's yeah i don't think they even spent the night in jail didn't you see the picture they posted it was still dark like they let him out that night well probably posting bail you know because whoever he was with probably spent some

of the money that could go to helping. There's two of them. Him and like another girl, both were down there. Oh, I didn't see the other one. I saw a picture. They're both like holding up their little citation or whatever. They're like proud. What did he, who did he ask?

He has somebody on show. He said, hey, if somebody glues their hand to the field. You love these things, huh? No, but I love the absurdity of some of them, yes. This thing, yeah, like I watched Brad Jones, my teammate, he like some kid ran out before kickoff one time, and Brad's an awesome dude. He kind of hopped, hopped like behind him,

and almost the guy didn't know, and then he just picked him up and bam, slammed the hell out of him in the security team. Hell yeah. It was awesome. The place went crazy. So James Harrison did. And then the security came. Hell, yeah. It was awesome. The place went crazy. So James Harrison did. And then he held him down until security came. James Harrison did a belly-to-back suplex, a German suplex.

Just, boom, right over top. And then holds him down. Security comes and says, see you later. That's a football field. Hey, you get on a football field, football might happen. Sorry about it. Sorry about it. That's consequences, man.

Hey, listen. If Bobby Wagner was to run up into the stands and he won't throw a beer in his face, hey, that's going to happen. Yeah. That's going to potentially happen. You know? Like, that's happening in the stands. That's the type of shit that happens out there. On the field.

Same rules. I mean, if you go on the field, you should just be happy that the cops didn't shoot you. I don't know. What was that guy, LSU? That was LSU. Yeah, just st that was on there. That strolled out there? Oh, yeah.

And then, oh, fuck, I'm in the game right now. I'm going to walk this way. Is that first down? And then the cops come up to him. You have to get off. You're on the field right now. Oh, fuck you. I'm not on the field.

No. Right down to the ground, then you're walking off. But, yeah, This dude was awesome. Talking to awesome. And he was definitely blacked out. I think just so boozed up. Like it wasn't, you know, he probably didn't even know how he got down there. It was, I don't think premeditated like this one.

This guy was so confused. Yeah. When he got to this point, I thought he was just taking it in. Yeah, that's exactly. He got to this point. Whoa. I'm just taking it in. Yeah, that's exactly right. He got to this point. Whoa. Oh, shit. I'm in the game.

Yeah. Look at me. Then there's probably a little bit of a moment of, how did I? What am I doing? How did I? Now what? Now what do I do? How did I get here?

I must have came right through. You went and tried to steal the ball. I must have came right through there. went and tried to steal the ball. I must have came right through there. Check ball. Check ball. Pass. But that's the security, right? That everybody's saying they'll be good?

Right. Yeah. This guy walked to the fucking 25-yard line. Yeah. Just strolled casually. Not very athletic this time. While they were going into the end zone, too. The LSU or whoever it was was like on their 30 going into the end zone.

He's very close to the action. So cargo pants, you have no idea what's in cargo pants. And if you're wearing cargo pants, you could be doing anything. So with that being said, now no players picked that guy up and dumped him on his head. Right.

That guy wouldn't have known that that happened though, until he got out of jail and seen it. Just like most protesters are streakers that get onto a field. Last night though was planned. Last night was a, a coordinated effort. We'd assume they'llakers that get onto a field. Last night, though, was planned. Last night was a coordinated effort. We'd assume they'll have a distraction in a play. That's a lot of humans, man, a lot of humans for those people that aren't qualified to be doing what they're doing, to watch everybody.

I assume there's just like every stadium has high-end, like super up-and-down. Sophisticated cameras? No, like, super, like, up in the... Sophisticated cameras? No, like, seals. Like, shit like that. We have people up on the roof, yeah, watching. I assume there's, like, some real... Yeah. For, like, actual problems.

If shit were to go sideways. If any actual problems were to take place, I assume... Like an air marshal. There's, like, eyes in the sky or something. So I assume there's... But down there with most of these security people, there's like, I was at a couple of WWE events and WWE is a combative,

like, Hey, this, you stink, you stink. Like people get upset and the WWE security is very good. You know, they got a good crew,

but when you go to the arenas, it's like local hires or whatever. There was this one time where the average age of the, the people that were around the ring maybe 94 maybe maybe 96 that's not hyperbole not not at all and i'm like sitting down i'm watching and i forget who was saying something but there were some very upset people there i'm like man what if they did just fucking say i'm going in i'm yeah you want some i am gonna come get something then i looked at security and was like, that person doesn't even know where they are right now.

That happens. Seth Rollins. That should be fixed, I think. Yeah, that happened. Seth Rollins got speared by somebody. He came running over and speared him. What if that guy spears Bobby Wagner, and Bobby Wagner is the guy that's soft?

Yeah, what if they go, and all of a sudden, a player sits down on the sideline, and some streaker is running, and they don't see him. They trip a sudden they like a player's sit stand on the sideline and some streakers run and they don't see him they trip and they dive into somebody's knee and they tear their acl and they're out for the year yeah that's another thing that can happen yeah or what if they are nude and just dong right on face mask even worse they just t-bag somebody right there in the sideline that'd be tough to come come back from all right i'm happy that happened last night i'm happy we got to talk about it. We are appreciative of everybody who's very passionate about your causes because you are passionate for a reason.

Something had to happen to you or somebody very close to you that opened your eyes and made you realize that this needs to be talked about. We appreciate that. We honor that. We think that the world would be a better place if there was more people like that. With that being said, though, you go on a football field, there's a chance you're going to get fucking hit like a football player. Sorry about it.

We don't love it. Actually, we do. We love the entirety of it. It's awesome. Yeah, we love the whole thing. So does Peyton. Yeah. So does Kittle.

So does every youth. I turned around right when Peyton did. He's like, come on, we've got to show this thing. I mean, I understand the A team, but let the B team show it. He caught himself the B team. They should show this thing. Yeah, he was politicking. He was politicking hard for it. Because I think they're scared to show it because they don't want to make that person popular.

But what we need to show is that person getting demolished. Smacked. Crushed. Right. Yeah. But then there's people that want to be smashed. Yeah, I was about to say this. And you just thought of somebody that said, hey, will you tackle me right now on this golf course? True. That is what AJ just thought of. He's like, hey, will you tackle me right now on this golf course? True.

That is what AJ just thought of. He's like, oh, there's people that want to get out there and just fucking. They'll probably do it like a tackle drill. Right before contact, jump. Like, all right, do that. Don't really get me here. Knoxville. Johnny Knoxville is coming out next week.

Crush me. Yeah. Just run it. Fucking just kill me. There are some people like that. We don't recommend it, but if you get on the the field there's a chance you're going to get hit about him though no no it is about the man who's the back-to-back mvp four-time total a man who just got done beating the new england patriots alongside his teammates of the green bay packers aaron rogers

oh nice shirt that's a bliss can you hear me yeah you sound amazing you look great hey man city here we go huh let's go boys it's there's gonna be a london uh london vibe to the whole show today i figured i might as well rock my uh man city gear they got a couple games over there this week uh as well so So big London week. Hold on. We just talked about dude. Holland. Holland.

He's like the best player on earth, I guess. We were thinking about betting on him for the World Cup. He's from Norway. So no, they're not going to win. The United States is still going to win. He seems to be a guy. Have you always been a Man City fan? I have not.

I switched allegiances a little over, I don't know, maybe seven, eight years. I was a fan of this other team that plays in the Premier League, and especially one specific player who ended up coaching in the Premier League after other stops, played for the LA Galaxy. And then Man City started reaching out and sending me a bunch of swag, and I said, you know what? All the players I grew up watching on that other team are gone so i'm gonna start pulling for man city and they haven't let me down man city chose you that's all very nice you know what i mean sometimes your team

finds you it feels like man city did that with you can't wait for you to go experience london this is the first time the packers have ever gone when are you heading out there is it early or are you guys going late in the week we're going late we're going out thursday and we don't have a buy after either which is a little different a lot of teams have taken buys so we're going to go out thursday and land i think friday morning and then go through a normal friday try and stay up friday as long as possible deal with the you know being a little tired and then get through it get through the game and head on back and then we got a home game the following week was that something you guys talked about I know every team kind of has their different plan on what they do some teams leave early some teams leave on Thursday like that was that something you

guys like voted on I wish there had been a vote it might have got a little differently but uh there is one final say as it should be in almost anything there's one final say and you know aj you're a huge analytics guy i'm sure there are a lot of analytics that went into the decision and it was decided that thursday was the best day to go. And so here we are. So when we played over there, there was a lot of analytics shown to us too earlier in the week that said going early isn't worth it. You know, you're not going to catch up. The teams that have won have not gone early.

They've gone late. Now it's like 23 games over there or whatever the case is. And stats don't tell you anything. I think it works either way. I honestly believe that it doesn't matter if you go early or late. I think if the stats are, because we were told we're going to win for going late and we lost and the flight home was terrible. And we didn't get to experience England as much. I assume that is something that you would have looked forward to doing because the Packers were the only team that hadn't gone over there yet, right?

Is that accurate? Well, as my buddy buddy ty would understand nobody wants to give up a home game against the green bay packers because you know our fans travel well we're going to show up in the stadium that place is going to be packed and at a rival team or whether we're playing at a team we only play at their stadium once in eight years you know the packer fans are going to show up so this just happened to be with the beautiful 17th game that our union voted on. We were slated to have nine home games this year and eight road games, so we decided to take one of those home games, put it in Tottenham, and that's the way it went.

Okay, so before we dive all the way in on England, which will be a funny, I'm excited for you to experience the European fans. They're going to fucking love you over there, dude. They're just like fans of when I went. It might be vastly different now. It appears as if it does, but American sport. That's like what they're, they're common American sport fans, basically.

Like you got a lot of military people. You got a lot of European folks. It's just like an American sport is here. The NFL is here so not that it isn't just nfl fans but there is there's you're gonna be loved over there i think i think you're gonna be fucking loved are you speaking or anything at the press conference do you know about that i'm sure i got some press conferences lined up uh doing some other things during the week i believe so i'm excited it's been uh you know a long time in the making bringing the Packers out there. So excited to be over there.

I'm sure there's a lot of Packer fans over there. There's probably at least one Packers bar where they watch the games. I know there's one I went to in Paris a few years ago. Oui, oui. And they're all over the country and the world. So excited to see our fans over there. There's a lot of great sports fans over there. They love their soccer.

Everybody's kind of got their own team over there. That's probably the sport of the country. But excited to bring our football over there. It's funny thinking back. I don't think England had a team, but NFL Europe, when you hear the stories about NFL Europe, so many guys who went over there. It was going on when I was a young player,

age was young, probably like it was in the last two years. But those guys who went over. It was going on when I was a young player, age was a young player, like it was one of the last two years. But those guys had a blast over in Europe because it wasn't just about being, you know, playing for the Rhine Fire or whatever. It was the ability in Europe, as you know, if you've been over there, it's pretty easy to jump from country to country.

So you can go over there and, you know, get from Germany to England or Italy to France, Switzerland to Hungary, you know, pretty easily. So it's fun. They all got their own traditions and different food specialties and stuff. So I'm excited to get over there.

Look, it's going to be one of those things where we're getting in early Friday morning. I'm not a lot of sleep. So I don't know if there's going to be a ton of time to explore the town. There will be, I don't think. There's a couple of things going on. I'd like to go to Wembley. I think actually our U.S. women's soccer team has a friendly against Team England. of time to explore the town there's a couple things going on i'd like to go to wembley i think actually our u.s women's soccer team has a friendly against team england on friday that we're we're

talking about saturday man city has a game as well the lady lions are really good yeah the english remember when we watch them in the europe yeah we're talking like 35 yards like strikes hey they're fucking good. That English women's team is really good. I'm still taking Team USA. Oh, yeah, for sure. Hey, for fucking sure. But I'm just saying that game will be a, I think it'll be an incredible game.

I was very fortunate to go over to Europe to play soccer as a teenager multiple times. And it's like a part of my learning curve. It's so fucking old over there you know and that just sounds like such a blanket statement but like you just learn so the streets are so fucking small and it's like well these were created for way back in the day and then you just turn the corner and some historic thing happened in a random city in some random town it's like it's a really cool place to kind of walk around tour and see it i'm i'm kind of bummed you're not able to go over there because I think the conversation after you fucking strutted around England before the game in London would have been fucking epic.

But, hey, any offseason. That's right. Any offseason. How's the water over there? I mean, I know from time to time you find yourself in different bodies of water. Is the water cold over there? Yeah, I had a pretty good time. Yeah, I had a pretty good time. Yeah, I had a pretty good time over there.

I stayed out of the water, but I did end up in a rave in Munich, Germany, in the basement or something one time, and that was quite a scene. I do remember that being quite a scene. Being like, all right, here we are. We're really doing it. And Dew Haas was really big at the time, you know? Oh, yeah. Great song.

Yeah. I've lived too many lives. I should have been dead already. But anyways, all right, so let's go back to New England. There was a cool moment after that game with you and Bill Belichick, and then obviously in the press conferences you both sung each other's praises, and then we heard that there was a conversation pregame and then after game. What do you think that's about, and how long has that been?

Do you think it's just mutual respect? Have you guys ever hung around each other, and do you see yourselves being buddies in the future when you're both done with football? I think so. I think there's a lot of coaches like that. Maybe, you know, a half dozen or so that I've met up with in the off seasons or talked to post-game that you have a lot of respect for, you've gone against. We have Rod Marinelli, who's the father-in-law of Joe Berry,

our defense coordinator, in with us this off season. Had a lot of battles with Rod when he was in Detroit and a lot of other places. A lot of respect for him. It's those things where you hate going against him, but at the end of the day, when you're done playing or he's done coaching, it'd be fun to have those conversations and meet up and talk some ball and talk some stories.

But Bill is such a legend. He started coaching long before I got in the league. Knew who he was. Obviously, incredible success, but just being ahead of the curve the way he has with his defensive styles and innovation, he's just a fantastic, fantastic coach. Also, ahead of the curve on media. The way that he handles the media has been legendary for decades now.

But the thing that touched me that I really appreciated was him coming over pregame. Because post is always you're always going to have a moment with the other quarterback or head coach or somebody you know but there's so many cameras and microphones it's hard to really have a real conversation but he stopped over and we were just starting our throwing lines and got to chat for you know 45 seconds or a minute and that was really meaningful just because you know there's no cameras around, there's no microphones. Just, you know, to have, you know, a good conversation, sharing mutual respect and admiration like that was really cool.

And he obviously is a phenomenal coach. You hit those guys ready to play and they shut us down in the first half and kept us out of the rhythm. And then the second half we got things rolling, started putting some things together, hit some plays, finally hit some throws and looked kind of more like ourselves. But I had so much respect for Bill. Hell yeah. Hell yeah.

What is that? What is it? We always hear people talk about these masterful halftime adjustments that are made. Is that a thing? And how did you feel in the second half compared to the first? Did you flip a dry erase board or anything? Like, what do we, you know? Yeah, a lot of halftime adjustments.

Look, I mean, the first two plays coming out to half, we had, you know, incomplete, incomplete. We're sitting there third and ten, down by three, really sputtering. And I think there were two big plays that happened in the game. The first one was on that third and ten at 10-7. I hit Allen down the right sideline. He made a fantastic catch. You know, the ball was a little bit lower.

He was kind of pushed to the sideline. He jumps on top of the last second and makes a kind of diving catch in front of him and sometimes it just takes one play like that to get you going now we're not on the 25 anymore now midfield we turn that drive into a touchdown to tunyon after a penalty that got us going then they come right back down they score we're down 17 down 17-14. What do we do? We respond. We drive down the field. We miss the third and three, but didn't convert. But Mason drills a field goal before the end of the fourth quarter.

Now we're sitting 17-17. What happens? They drive right back down, score another touchdown. Sitting there 24-17. And then, you know, I turned to Josh. I said, we're not losing this game. We're going to get this thing figured out. We're going to go out and score and handle it. And we, you know, we're not losing this game. We're going to get this thing figured out. We're going to go out and score and handle it.

And we, you know, went right down the field, had another nice touchdown, roaming the own back shoulder ball, got the ball back again another chance. The Roms couldn't quite hold on. It was a run. But we put it together. And the overtime was important. The other second play was really important. It was 24-17.

We're down as third and six. Cobby runs a great route. I kind of slide left slightly Dave did a good job kind of pinning this guy inside and we kind of passed off the twitch pretty good but I put a ball in a good spot Randall went on a great route on uh on kind of a sail we call it we kind of bend in and then back towards the sideline uh that got us going so uh that was two of the biggest plays the game for sure randall cobb everybody's talking about it you know commentators it seems like packers fans if ty is you know a good

indicator of what everybody else in the cheesehead nation is thinking it feels like randall cobb's playing like he was like five years ago almost and the commentators are even noticing it is that true do you think and is it how important is it to have that comfort level with a guy that not only you know where he's going to be and he knows where you're going to put the ball, but also I'm sure that you can have different conversations with him than you can with the younger guys because of the past that you have. And is that why you wanted Randall to be back so much like a year ago?

Is it kind of, you know, I don't want to say fulfilling, but is it nice to kind of see this kind of paying off here right now? Yeah, it's great because I love him. You know, he's such a great friend and phenomenal teammate and leader. I really feel like he needs some more playing time. You know, he's made plays in every game that he's played. There's always one or two plays where, you know, he had two huge plays in the game. He had that on both on third down, third and six.

He gets on the sideline for 20 something, third and one on our last drive. We're like in the mid-40s. We do an action. He runs a beautiful through route. I hit him first down, move the sticks. Then I hit two plays to roam. Next thing you know, we're in field goal range. I think he needs more opportunities for sure.

He's earned them. Big kudos to him, though. You know, he figured out how to get his body back. He's, you know, stayed healthy so far. But he went through the entire offseason program, OTAs, busted his ass, and earned the opportunities he's gotten and probably more. So I look forward to, you know, some more snaps for him because every time he's out there, he's gotten and probably more so I look forward to you know some more snaps snaps

for him because every time he's out there he's making explosive games I was teasing him this is going to be his highest yards per catch that he's had in his career because you know he's having you know two or three catches a game and at least one of them is an explosive play at two catches against the Buccaneers both explosive plays 17 yards on third and eight and then 40 yards on the RPO and this last game obviously two huge first down plays, and then he decided to pitch the ball back to Elton Jenkins on the other one. But, you know, one of the great, probably the best catch of the game that nobody's going to talk about is I throw it to Randall,

and they were, you know, we're in the minus 41, which is still in Hail Mary range. So they were bringing five. And I thought maybe a punt return type play would have a better opportunity than maybe rolling out, getting drilled, not getting the ball off. Randall, I guess, was thinking it was lateral last play of the game instead of going and getting it. And then if you get down there, maybe inside the plus 30 or so,

maybe look to lateral. He went right to Elton. Elton catches his shoestring, you know, lateral back to him and falls down. Best catch of the game by far. Jeez. Hey, how valuable is it to have a guy like Randall that knows, he knows like all the little things, like the attention to detail you want on all these routes.

He's there all spring, all summer. Like he can explain to dudes like, hey, no, you need to run that thing at 11 not 12 like he can give those guys so much knowledge like i would imagine having that for you is a huge like weight off of you too yeah finally aj you make a great point there we go that to me is as big of a role for him as anything. It's to be able to translate the way that I play and the expectation to the young guys when I'm not in that room. I'm telling you, it is the most important quality, possibly, that he adds to our football team. Obviously, he's still an explosive player. He can still run great routes.

He still, you watch the tape back, he's getting open consistently. But his ability to be that voice in the room, along with Allen, the two oldest guys in the room, the longest, Kavi obviously much longer than Allen, to be able to explain the little intricacies of plays is priceless, I promise you. And to rely on Christian Watson and Romeo Dobbs, a couple of young guys, and have that voice in the room, man,

it's gold right there. Let's talk about the wide receivers a little bit. Romeo Dobbs appears to be a guy in the making. Makes some mistakes, though. There's a fumble. There's a dropped ball. Thought it was a touchdown. I think you thought it was a touchdown as well because I think the rules have evolved enough.

He had it. I don't know. I think if he maintains some sort of possession in the end zone, they call it, whatever the case, that doesn't know. I think if he maintains some sort of possession in the end zone, they call it, whatever the case, that doesn't happen. But since Devontae isn't there, do you think you find yourself going back to Dobbs where maybe in a time in the past, if a fumble happens or a drop happens or a wrong route happens,

you would maybe be like, I don't know if I can trust this guy? Or is this just a natural because you have respect for what Romeo Dobbs has been able to do thus far? Well, I think it's part of all of that. I mean, a big part is he's going to be out there. So there's no choice but to go to him in certain situations. He runs some routes better than others. He's learning.

You know, we still got to get him to be a better intermediate route runner. He does a nice job on the deep balls, stacking and creating separation. Obviously, you know, he's in tune with the back shoulder if that's necessary. He hit, you know, had one in preseason and had some in training camp. The best part is before that play, I looked over him and made a check. Now, it wasn't a real easy one. Thankfully, I've made the same check to him in one-on-one drills during training camp. Here we go. This is when I talk about it a lot. The ability to recall things that happen from practice and be able to, in a snap, execute them in a game is one of the most important qualities

in earning trust from myself and the offense and getting the ball thrown your way. So before the snap, I made kind of an arbitrary semi-veg-ish, unless you understand the entire nature of what I'm doing. And he, whether he did this subconsciously or whether he was expecting this, he had gotten that check before, ran the appropriate route, and the ball obviously was in a decent spot, made a beautiful hands catch. And that's a fun play to go back and laud a guy like that for his ability to recall what I want in that situation and then to go execute. Now, as far as the other one, which would have been a really special one to go up 31-24 there,

that's a big learning process for him. There's no reason for him not to take a hand off the ball. Turn your body, double wrap it, whatever you got to do. You're in the end zone. Just secure the catch to the ground. Did I think that was a catch? Obviously, right away I did until Matt June, I'm going to stand next to me and goes, oh, he dropped it.

I was about to be celebrating with Elton and Dave and the guys. But that's a learning experience for him because that's a play that needs to be made. He runs a great route. The ball, you know, maybe slightly underthrown, but in a spot where he can catch it and secure it,

we need him to finish that play off. He had a nice game. That would have been a spectacular game can catch it and put the insecure it and we need him to to finish that playoff he had a nice game that would have been a spectacular game finish that one to the ground he's gonna be a guy though it sounds like and you think that too that's why you're saying this stuff you're saying i can't wait to watch the evolution i i think both guys can be can be dudes you know uh what do you what do you like to call guys who are dudes? Dogs! Yeah, I think both guys can be that kind of player. It's going to be how does their confidence progress? How many plays can they lock and anchor into their mind for those places to go back to and think about

when they've had maybe a stretch where they haven't played their best ball or maybe they need some inspiration? How many memories can they lock into their brain that they can easily access in the moment? And then how do they work on their craft? You know, it'll be big jumps, opportunities for them between years one and two, and two and three especially, that we see from a lot of young players.

But I think they both have opportunities to be really, really good players in the league. Dogs. Hey, what is going back to the Patriots defense, Bill Belichick? When you face a team coached by Belichick in a defense, I guess what sets him apart? Is it that you never really know how they're going to try to defend you? I know they're famous for changing up their game plan

and how they defend people from week to week. Is that the biggest challenge that they seem to give everybody, really? It's adjustments, yeah. I mean, they obviously self-scout. I think self-scouting is so important for every unit, offense, defense, special teams, because that's what the opposing people are looking at. They're looking at what you're doing.

So you have to be a master in not only what you're doing but what you're showing on tape so you can have adjustments off of your staples and the patterns that you've been showing throughout a game. And what Bill does is studies himself, obviously, in their defense and then goes back and switches things up. And so you might think coming in, oh, they're going to play a bunch of five down front. And if they're not, they're going to be an over front. This backer is the most likely to pressure. They like to bring this thing. They like to bring a lot of empty and have this great plan they come out and run something completely different um and the other part is on that

plate of dobs what they do so well is their ability to adjust so pre-snap we're in an empty formation right and they show double is this the touchdown to dobs or no which one is this one this is the one he dropped okay we got that actually, I think, pulled up. I think we actually have that. Oh, good. We can talk through this. It'll be great. I think so.

Yeah, this is it right here, right? Yeah. Right, it's kind of far away. I know it happened, but pre-snap. So pre-snap, they showed a six-man up front. I made a check for a little extra protection. Now, what did they do on the back end? They're not playing

zero coverage, right? They went to a one high coverage and only rushed four guys. Obviously, Rome's take it to the ground, buddy. That's a tug. But what I mean by that is that there's not many defenses that audible, you know, where they have a play called we come on make a check and then they check it was so fun against brian back in the day or lacquer because they had not only a bunch of checks but they had a bunch of dummy checks too so you never quite knew were they actually checking out of one high in the two high were they checking to do a blitz were they mixing things up so we had to play this cat and mouse game and it definitely made me a better player but with bill you know i checked to some they checked right out out of it and went to a coverage snap because they knew we were probably loading up

for an empty pressure situation, and that's the beauty in what they do. They're very well prepared. Ty Schmidt. Aaron, I think for most Packers fans, or at least speaking for myself, just watching the offense, it's pretty easy to see that, you know, later in the season you guys will get things completely figured out. And that's why there's really no panic whatsoever, even after a game like that on Sunday where, you know,

it's probably closer than it should have been. Even you alluded to it with Christian Watson, he's been super effective on kind of the jet sweep jet motion type of stuff. And you had like one of those shots to him where he couldn't really get his head around, look like he had a nice opportunity. Is there anything that you see that he needs to do to kind of be more effective in the passing game? And also, I saw Odell Beckham tweeted out, like, man, hey, AR-12 is special. Someone said, hey, can you imagine playing with him?

And he basically said, like, oh, man, it'd be unbelievable. I don't know if you saw that. If you did, what kind of relationship do you have with him, and is that something you'll maybe keep tabs on moving forward? Great question. That's a long two-part, two-different-subject question there, Ty. Very well done, my friend. I'll start with the first answer with Christian.

Look, I tell you, he's got special speed. He really does. He's got incredible stride length. When you watch the film back, it's similar to watching Devante, his rookie year. There were games where I didn't give Devante a ton of looks. You go back and watch the film, you think, man, this guy is open. Often, you know. And it's like that from time to time with Christian.

There's a few routes. I mean, not as much as Devante. I just think Devante was a little more polished route when I was a rookie, but, but there's a few times where I might need to give him a second look, even when things don't look great from the start, because he does have that different type of speed. But we will find a ways to use them. I think, again, we got to have patience. It is interesting to think about. We had 440-something yards

of offense, and we scored 27 points, and we had a nice second half. I wouldn't say there's a ton of problems to fix with the offense. We were running the heck out of the ball. Jonesy had a... Yeah, but at the beginning, dude, at the beginning, people watch

the first five minutes, and then they're out. It's a four-quarter game. It's a four? Quarter game. Yeah. It's a four-quarter game. Sometimes you have to go into a fifth quarter. But, look, I like the things we did on offense, especially in the second half. But games are going to be like that, you know? But we have two great backs with different styles.

I thought A.J. ran the ball really hard and tough. And Jonesy did his thing, slashing all over the place. And then we found a way to get Allen involved early and often. He had a 100-yard game, which was great. Obviously, like I said, Cobby needs more opportunities. We need to keep eating the ball to Cobby. And then using Dobbs and Christian in spots to get them the ball when it makes sense.

And I like where we're at. Obviously, I said we're going to be a work in progress. We have been. There's been parts of games where we've really played well. It's just that consistency. And I feel like we're going to figure it out. We're going to get it going. But there's a lot to build on, you know, especially 440 yards, one sack.

Yeah, but you guys didn't have 600 yards, dude. No. So, you know, it could have been better. That's why, you know, stats can be used in a lot of different ways. But the only step. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Sounds like you weren't talking about football there. What's that all about?

Sound like you weren't talking about football. That sounded a little personal. Moving on, though, the Odell Beckham Jr. series of tweets is right here. We have it. It is AR is two with three O's. So that's not just two that's two fire dude honestly bro makes it look effortless effortless capital e because e is for extra and you're extra effortless dude that's right then chris williamson at c williamson 44 he is

on your side says a lot of damage could be done with you and rogers odo beckham goes who you telling that's a different breed right there pal uh obviously you have seen this you're on twitter all the time uh you probably were told this by everybody in your surrounding family have you heard about this and what does this mean to you whenever somebody who's like odo beckham jr says hey this guy's really fucking good at the football and it would be awesome if we played football together. Odell and I have been friends for a number of years now and so we keep in contact often. We talked at various times over the years

and obviously with a player like that, you're always hoping that there's a time where you can figure things out and play together. But he's a special talent and I was really happy for him last year and see how they used him in L.A. and for him to get a ring. And obviously he was dominating the game to start that game until the injury. I'm not sure what his status is going to be, honestly, and I don't think I'm speaking out of turn.

I mean, you'd probably say the same thing. I don't know. Is anybody that rehabs as hard as him? I mean, he works. He's got a nice place, supposedly. I heard this on the telecast that he's been rehabbing in Bahamas. That's got pretty nice down there. If that's true, you know how stories go.

Don't let the truth get in the way of good stories. Sometimes you're talking about rehab or how good your body is or what kind of shape you're in. There's always stories about that but but i like odell a lot and and uh appreciate his friendship and i first and foremost just want to see him healthy he's dealt with a number of major injuries in the last five years and surgeries and rehabs and most important thing is him getting healthy and then you know i'm sure he'll have a kind of competitive playoff teams who are looking at a stud like that to their roster. Hell yeah, come to the Colts.

Why would you want to go play for a 4-12 team? All right, let's move on. There's 17 games tied. I know, at the time. No, no, we tied one. Oh yeah, good point. It's 4-12, 0-1. That's tough, yeah. Good point. It's 4-16 or 4-12. That's tough, dude.

Anyways, you do plants with Odell Beckham Jr. How close of friends are we talking? I haven't yet. Okay, okay. All right, all right. I didn't know. I think I'd enjoy that. Yeah, I think that would be hilarious.

Would love to be a fly on the wall. Tone Diggs has a question for you. Matt, Pat, we can make that happen. Okay, I'll be a fly on the wall. That'd make me smaller. Do some plants. You couldn't be a fly there. You'd have to be a participant.

Yeah, I do love the plants. We know that. I mean, I think I could be a part of it. It'd be fantastic. Next offseason, let's go win another MVP, huh? Hell yeah. Let's go win a Lombo. Tone Diggs, back from paternity leave, has a question for you, Aaron. Yeah, Aaron, let's go win another MVP, huh? Hell yeah. Let's go win a Lombo. Tone Diggs back from paternity leave has a question for you, Aaron.

Yeah, Aaron, I was doing some deep thinking. Mack Brown once told Pat, like, when he was at Texas, at one point the wins were a relief and the losses were devastating. Is that anything that ever creeps into your head, like the later you get into career, like with this current packers team at all well i'm not going to agree with anything mac brown says after he voted us so low in the 2004 polls um yeah fuck that guy dude i can't believe he did that i can't believe he did that that's unbelievable he's a really nice guy to me but i can't believe he did that to you

that's rude but uh no i don't really understand what he's saying. The wins are – I wouldn't ever call a win a relief. You know, it's hard to win in the NFL. It doesn't matter if you're beating the third-string quarterback at home. It's still difficult to win. I think one thing that I do feel strongly about, and, A.J., you played in Green Bay for a long time. We rarely – this is kind of a blanket statement,

but we rarely get a rollover from a team. Like there's rarely a time when somebody comes in a Lambo and they just roll over. There's a few times over the years, you know, 2014 against the Bears when I threw six tuggers in the first half. Yep. Landlord. That's the landlord first half. Yep. Landlord. That's the landlord.

Wow. That's the landlord. We played Tennessee at home one year in the cold around Christmas and beat them like 55 to 7 or something. Oh! Titans just beat the shit out of the Colts. But there haven't been a lot of, like, rollovers. You know, teams come to Lambeau.

It's an epic place to play. It has all the history. And it's the Green Bay Packers. We're going to get their best shot. We expect tough games every time we come to town or every time somebody comes to Green Bay. So obviously it would be easier if all three phases were just absolutely humming and we could steamroll some teams

and i'm guessing there'll be there'll be a few of those this season but uh we're not gonna we're not gonna ever feel like it's a relief to win we're gonna celebrate all those wins hell yeah learn our lessons from our defeats and our tough moments but but no we're gonna celebrate the hell out of those wins we're gonna have a to have a nice helping of scotch after all of them. What? And get on down the road. Hell, yeah. Okay.

What do you think of these stadiums over there that the whole field lifts up and there's different layers and all of a sudden field turf comes up and the grass is removed? Is that something we're going to see here eventually? I hope not because they're pulling up the grass and they're putting in the turf. We talked about that last week on the show, right? What seem, I mean, you're going to have to look at the analytics here, but it seems like more opportunities at least for

injuries on a non-grass field. I think it's kind of funny. You know, obviously Tottenham is a wealthy team over there and got a great football club. They don't want anybody playing on their special grass, right? Their pits, yeah. Yeah, there we go. And they spend, obviously, a ton of money, you know,

being able to roll out one and roll in the other. But, no, I'd obviously always first and foremost love to play on grass. But it is pretty cool. You know, Arizona, right, they have the rolling, but they have grass at the University of Phoenix.

No, sorry, it's called the State Farm Building now, isn't it? Who knows? In Pittsburgh, they're playing in the accresher you know that accresher in pittsburgh now no yeah lambo always going to be lambo huh ever going to get sponsored you think we saw your tax statements i guess for the packers making like 200 million or something in real estate around lambo lambo itself is a big enough brand name right i mean that place is fucking packed every single home game.

Is that how it is just in Lambeau? Yeah, but look, the league is about dollars. And if there's more ways to make dollars and somebody wants to come in and put their name on the stadium at Lambeau Field. Could you imagine? Look at Ty. Aaron, look at Ty right now. He is about to puke right now.

He'd fucking dare. I don't know who's going to do it. Don't you stay away. Ty, I'm with you. I don't want it to happen either. I know. We had patches on our jerseys in the COVID year. Who knows?

The NBA obviously went to that, and they're making a ton of money. I'm sure on that. Obviously, look at soccer. They've been doing it for a long time. The naming rights and the jersey rights for the Premier League are incredible fees that are paid. Obviously, it's, you know, good marketing because you see it all over the place. Yeah, I want to jump in there. It'd be interesting, you know, purists, traditionalists like myself,

and obviously Ty Schmidt wouldn't want to see that, but I think it's definitely possible. What is that on the shirt there? I know Puma. Puma's still doing their thing. Eddie Haidt Airways. Eddie Haidt Airways. Hell yeah, dude.

Fucking sign me up. Mm-hmm. Does that marketing work? That's a whole deeper conversation. I was at the Colts game, and the Colts stadium is like a NASCAR. You know, it's just got advertisements just kind of stamped on different areas.

Unless it's like an immediate purchase. We're the biggest sports business in the States, for sure, and our reach is worldwide but this is the nfl man people people watch it look at the ratings in the games they're incredible right and sunday night game monday night thursday night's supposedly doing pretty good too uh monday night got it fixed you know with joe and troy and i'm sure that they're doing really really well sunday night is always you know, with Joe and Troy. And I'm sure that they're doing really, really well. Sunday night is always, you know, always going to rate super high.

What are you laughing about? Well, Monday night got it fixed. That was hilarious. That was very nice, like just casual. You know what I mean? Just casual. Observer, you're a fan? It can be casual.

I'm a big Troy and Joe fan. So I think they do a great job. I worked with them for a long time with EA on Fox and love those guys. And I've tuned in with the sound on and enjoyed the broadcast. Hey, look at all the football. That's good for football. All right, enough about football. You're going to England this week.

Safe travels, mates. Have a good one over there, lad. football, you're going to England this week. Safe travels, mate. Have a good one over there, lad. It is time to continue one of the greatest traditions that this show has. One of the most impactful things this show

has ever been a part of. Definitely the smartest thing we've ever been a part of. But also maybe the only thing that survived this long because of how awesome it is for this particular program. Ladies and gentlemen, it is time now for book three of Aaron Rodgers book club season 2.0. At first, we were told to read the beautiful book, The Mastery of Love. God damn, it was great. We all became doctorates and we had our master's program of love.

Then there was another book that was awesome. It was titled 1984 by George Orwell, which is also a movie, I've been told. I'll tell you what, a lot of conversation around Aaron Rodgers picking this book for his book club. This week's book is The Art of Contemplation by Richard Rudd. All right. That's good art. That's good art. I love art.

Paul's brother. And I think, Pat, you would really enjoy this book. Number one, it's around 100 pages. Yes. That's good. Big fun. You could probably get through it in a week. But Richard Rudd is a dear friend.

He's an Englishman. He wrote an incredible book called The Gene Keys, which is out there. That one, I think, Pat, would take you a little bit longer. That's in the 500, 600, 700 pages. That's never, yeah. But The Art of Contemplation is a brilliantly written book, simple in nature but deep in wisdom. And Richard is a very, very wise human being and a dear friend. And I'm really hoping to see him this weekend when we get over there.

But I would definitely check out this book as a kind of intro to Richard and his writing style and, like I said, his deep wisdom. And, again, it's about 100 pages, Pat. So you could probably get through it in a couple of sittings. That's amazing. I assume you're the only NFL quarterback in the history of the England game to be meeting up with a fucking author over there. I do love that. I appreciate that. That's why the book club is so special. And did you take any wisdom from the book to contemplate whether or not the microphone was on when you said snap the fucking ball to the center because you know america heard that and i don't have kids yet but my kids almost heard that there you know

and that's uh that was an awesome moment in there i just want to let you know that that's the art of contemplation in my mind you know yeah one of the techniques in the art of contemplation in my mind, you know? Yeah, one of the techniques in the art of contemplation is called pausing, right? So when there's a situation that comes up, instead of reacting right away, it's taking a beat and letting the emotions kind of flow through you. I did not practice the art of contemplation that moment.

Hey, we're growing, aren't we? Yeah. We're getting better. The book club is fantastic, as are you. Safe travels. We appreciate the hell out of you. Ladies and gentlemen, Aaron Rodgers. Yay!

It's 4.01 Eastern. It's been four hours. It's time for us to get the fuck out of here. Thank you all so much. There was a tweet that was sent out earlier that you could potentially be a winner because AQ made a shot. We'll be back, Mignogna, with Coach Sirianni

talking about maybe his offensive line and how great they are. Can't wait to make myself sound much smarter than I actually am. I've seen Jason Kelsey coming out and pulling and finishing blocks downfield with his hips. You know, good leverage in there. Is that a big part of your offense? Almost pivotal? I'll be able to do that now

because of AQ. Can't wait for that conversation and everything else we're going to cover tomorrow. Let's continue to fucking enjoy this life. Fucking A. Have a day. Say something nice to somebody. Goodbye, Sam.