The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 754 - Paisano Wednesday With Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni & Michael Lombardi, Plus Everything DB With Darius Butler LIVE In The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: October 5, 2022

On today’s show, Pat, AJ Hawk, Darius Butler, and the boys chat about Mike Tomlin’s comments about Von Miller being an alien and a scientist, Kenny Pickett officially being named a starter, Odell Beckham Jr. responding to Aaron Rodgers’ comments yesterday on Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, and look ahead to tomorrow night’s Thursday Night Football game between the Colts and Broncos. Joining the progrum is the Head Coach of the Philadelphia Eagles, the only remaining undefeated Head Coach in the NFL this season, Nick Sirianni, to chat about what dawg mentality means to him, why he feels like he’s the perfect guy to coach in Philly, not feeling the pressure to be anyone but himself as a Head Coach, he meets our Coach Sirianni, and much more (31:47-54:03). Later, Super Bowl Champion, former GM of the Cleveland Browns, author, host of the GM Shuffle Podcast, and friend of the show, Michael Lombardi joins the progrum to chat about what’s pissing him off in the NFL this season, what he likes right now, why he thinks Quarterback play is not great right now, and ultimately, who he thinks is going to win the Super Bowl (1:26:54-1:53:41). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people. It is how you doing? Paisan Wednesday, October 5th, 2022. And this show starts now. Football! That is right. Football is the topic of conversation on most days. Today, football has provided us with an absolute gem,

an absolute blessing, a gift from the football gods. Ladies and gentlemen, Coach Sirianni of the Philadelphia Eagles will be on this program in 32 minutes. Exactly. It's his first time on the show. Obviously, he is the coach of the only undefeated team left in the NFL. Last year in his first year as a head coach, they made the playoffs. They lost in the playoffs.

But this year, there was a lot of conversation around how his squad was going to do. They obviously invest big during the draft at the wide receiver position. They let Jalen Hurts know it's either you or nobody. But if Jalen was to stink, they would have got rid of him and got a new quarterback because it felt like the only position they didn't know about was the quarterback position. Jalen Hurts has shown up. This team has been fantastic.

And Coach Sirianni will be joining us to hopefully bless us with why and how he goes about operating and turning around a program that looked like it was on fire just two years ago. That should be a good conversation. Hey, it should be. The toxic tables here at Boston Corner at Ty Schmidt.

I mean, there's a lot of gobble-goo today. Isn't that right, Connor? You pumped up about it? Yeah, I'm pumped. I love when our Italian brothers come on the show. It feels good that we're going to be able to talk to, I don't know, two of the best in the game, really. Yeah, you kind of gave away the lead there. Michael Lombardi will also be joining us in the third hour. Thank you for doing that because I can ask Ty Schmidt.

These are one person that is maybe your favorite guest that we have on, Michael Lombardi. And then, boom, probably another guy is going to become your favorite human on earth after today. Coach Sirianni is somebody you know very well. We get to chat with him here in about 21 or 31 minutes, pal. Yeah, I am so excited. So excited. I couldn't fall asleep last night.

I was just, you know, rolling over, tossing and turning. I didn't think this day would ever come. I really didn't. I didn't know if we'd ever get Coach Sirianni on the show. Will and behold, boom, first hour on a Wednesday. There's nothing better. I mean, I'm really – I'm chomping at the – I cannot wait for this conversation.

The added detail there from Ty, Wednesdays during the season feel like an off season because there isn't a lot of conversation. Now, Thursday night is tomorrow, but rarely any news is coming out on a Wednesday. Normally stuff's either on Friday or Monday after the game, so we kind of react for a lot of conversation. Now, Thursday night is tomorrow, but rarely any news is coming out on a Wednesday. Normally, stuff's either on Friday or Monday after the game, so we kind of react for a couple of days, and Aaron Rodgers Tuesday is taking place, so we've had great discussions about the reaction to that on

Wednesdays, but Wednesdays, normally a time in the week where we can get a little loose. That's right. Yeah, the show gets a little loose. It's a lot of time. AddTone Diggs is here, one half of the Hammer. Don! Cowboys, great to see you, pal. Great to see you. Hey, Hammer.

Done. Has been back. It's been fantastic. You guys hitting any winners or not? Did you know Aaron Judge was going to hit 62 last night? Yeah. No, I found out yesterday that baseball is back Friday with the playoffs. I haven't been met, obviously.

Oh, yeah. The one game thing's happening this week. Yeah, here we go. Let's do that. Let's watch that. That's the coolest part of baseball on the playoffs. It's on Friday? Friday. Like, here we go. Let's do that. Let's watch that. That's the coolest part of baseball on the playoff. It's on Friday? Friday.

Like, they're normally stacked. It's going to be tough because, yeah, it's obviously Friday night SmackDown. Got to watch that. Right. Say hello to old friends over here at WWE. Hope all is good. Hope everybody's having a blast. Haven't been able to keep up with everything.

Sounds like Triple H is doing very well. Yeah. That's creative. Seems like there's still some buzz and some juice. Ratings, I believe, are still doing great. So I don't get to watch as much as Friday Night College football that I have to react to Saturday morning every single week. So I've been watching

some of that there. But if I mean, if we go on a one and done situation, a little March Madness, a little how baseball should maybe think about being like in the future more than just after 195 games, having just one game matter which is what friday night is is that's what taking place and aaron judge breaking this

record time yeah you're a yankees fan is this worth a fuck because i don't want people telling me that what he's seventh place now or something like that because the steroid era you had so so so so mcguire mcguire bonesyy. So he's like being celebrated because everybody, fans, game, league, are like, he's the first guy who's actually been drug tested on a pretty regular basis and can't just be eating all the Tramblone sandwiches like everybody used to do. Is that kind of what's happening right now? And is this that big of a deal in the grand scheme of history

like 10 years looking back? For sure. He broke the AL record, which the two guys before him were both Yankees, to do it as a Yankee, and we've talked about it, like in a bet-on-yourself contract year, like that's the big part of it, is he had maybe one of the best statistical seasons ever. You know, a couple, however many months removed after the Yankees basically kind of low-balled him, and now he's going to make,

he probably made himself about $125 million this year by not taking that and getting this new contract. He's only the fourth guy to ever hit 62 or more. Bonds, McGuire, and Sosa are the only guys who have hit more. So, yeah, I mean – Pretty pumped up. I nailed that because I do think they each had like two seasons almost.

Yeah, Sosa I think hit 62-plus two times. Bonds did it two times. And McGuire did it two times as well. Yeah, I saw the graphic last night, late night, as I was kind of like half asleep. I'm like, oh, this is why everybody keeps saying the seventh best of all time or whatever. And then it's natural just to think, well, there's three guys.

We're playing a different game. Yeah, exactly. With different bodies and different supplements. Bring that back. People are saying that as well. But if Aaron Judge is able to do it without it, if Aaron Judge was in the, I can take HGH to have better hand-eye coordination.

I can take more testosterone than anybody else because they're having a piece of gum that boosts your testosterone and steroid era. He's hitting out of every single park. Yeah, he probably would have hit like 130, 140 homers this year. Need that. Need that. One Aaron Judge would be safe.

Yeah, sure. It didn't help that Roger Maris' son came out and said like, hey, if Judge breaks this record, he should be considered the true home run king. And a lot of people took umbrage to that because... Barry's the real homer. Yeah, exactly. Always will be. Well, of course. Big's the real homer. Yeah, exactly. Always will be. Well, of course, big hat when he did it.

Yeah, big hat. Wasn't the same size hat whenever he was smaller, but as you grow older, you know, they say you're supposed to learn something new every day. That's right. Barry Bonds took that to heart. He learned something new every day, and as he got older, his brain got bigger. Sorry about it. Yeah, what?

Everybody's talking about his head growing or whatever. He's learning something new every day. That's right. Yeah, what? Everybody's talking about his head growing or whatever. You see him. He's learning something new every day. That's right. The brain's fucking, how big can it get? Well, we'll find out. Barry taught us. Yeah, exactly.

Jeez, what do you got to learn? Learning something new every day. Big baseball show. This year, they did switch to no more one game. It's now a three-game series for the wild card. Oh, of course. Baseball fucks up the only thing they got. Why are you going to do that, baseball? I don't love that.

Bullshit. I don't love that. It's all right. Aaron are you going to do that, baseball? I don't love that. Bullshit. I don't love that. It's all right. Aaron Judge is going to be a Pittsburgh Pirate next year. Hell yeah. Let's not talk about baseball anymore. Baseball stinks. We just learned it stinks even more.

Yeah. Learned that baseball had something good. Yep. Ruined it. I was pumped for that. Me too. What the fuck? Did you hear me?

I said, oh, fuck. I'll have to be able to work baseball into my television schedule in the middle of football season because of that. And instead, they're like, it'll be more. It'll be more. It's like, well, that's a problem with you guys. baseball into my television schedule in the middle of football season because of that and instead they're like there'll be more there'll be more it's like well that's a problem with you guys there's too much more like just fucking condense it well that's not actual baseball it's like okay well actual baseball fucking stinks to watch so have we ever thought about it but there's Yankees fans that love it I'm a big time M fan. I love when the Mets are playing.

Obviously, the Braves have incredible fans. They look like they're going to go on another run. Good for them. But it's not a national sport. I think baseball is a regional sport. I don't think it's a national sport. I think that is the proper way to tag it. Nonetheless, happy for and congrats to Aaron Judge. And that guy that fractured both of his legs jumping into him.

Yeah, I love that guy's move. So the guy jumps off the balcony down to the pitcher's area. Bullpen area. Bullpen area, like 15 feet, 20 feet almost, two stories, jumping off a little two-story house off the top of the right down. Because, yeah, I agree, as he goes into the game, watching the game unfold unfold he takes a little peeksie around he has good self-awareness and he says well there's a bunch of fucking slobs here

in this particular area none of these people are gonna be able to catch anything ball comes it's hitting off a face it's hitting off a chest it's hitting off a glove people are fighting for it it's going back down into this area here so i have a sneaky suspicion that if I attempt to break both of my fucking ankles and go down there, I'll be able to just kind of, I'll be the pickup at the end. Yeah, exactly. Smart scraps.

That did not happen because a guy who's worth like fucking $2 billion just snagged that fucking thing. Boom. Celebrated. Going to put it in his office forever. Not going to sell it. Yankee's never going to see it again.

Yeah, probably not. eBay's never going to see it again. The guy's the vice president of a fucking venture capitalist firm or something. They caught it. Literally one of the wealthiest humans on earth. Yeah, basically. Didn't know you could be one of the wealthiest humans on earth in one of the nerd businesses that is like venture capitalism where you have to do a lot of accounting and rounding

up everybody else's money basically. Right, sure. Bernie Madoff. That was his front, but it... Shut up. I mean, yeah, he was running that business as well. But yeah, I mean, that's a Ponzi scheme where you're just taking people's money, using it,

and then taking other people's money to pay off dividends to other people. And it's a shell game, and basically it works until you run out of people to get money from. Bernie Madoff was able to get, like, fucking royalty from other countries to put their money. He just kept on going. Everybody was getting paid, including him.

He was doing that. It has to be very stressful. But venture capitalist people, they're normally a pretty nerdy bunch. Not from a very athletic part of town, normally, either. Normally kind of born into those positions. But the fact that he was able to snag that thing with a glove, I'm impressed. Congrats.

Hopefully you'll put it. Maybe you'll donate it congrats, hopefully you put it maybe you'll donate it hey, why don't you donate it that'd be good raise funds to help the world out or put it right there in your fucking office because somebody tried to break their own legs for that thing, somebody tried to get it, you got it congrats, joining us on the stage

is a man that will be joining us all season long once a week, twice a week breaking down everything DB absolute stallion Darius Butler Sage is a man who will be joining us all season long, once a week, twice a week. Breaking down everything DB, absolute stallion Darius Butler. DB, I didn't know you were a baseball guy. I wanted to have the baseball conversation. Are you really? No.

Me neither. Yeah, so I just wanted to get that convo out of the way with Ty because it involved the Yankees, and the Yankees are his team. Aaron Judge is now going to be able to hold the Yankees hostage with a contract, basically. Right? That's a good business? Yeah, I mean, they have no choice. Have to pay him.

Nah, he's coming with Pittsburgh Pirates. No, Red Sox. Break the bank. Bet on himself. Bingo. I love it. Imagine they get Shohei, who's on a terrible team. Sure.

Somehow. He just signed a one-year $30 million deal. Guaranteed. Biggest arbitration deal, right? Yep. Look at us. Baseball guy. We know baseball. We know baseball. $30 million fully guaranteed Biggest arbitration deal, right? Look at us. We know baseball.

We know baseball. $30 million fully guaranteed for one season, right? And then he's a free agent. Correct. And then he's coming to the Yankees. Well, if George Steinbrenner was still owning the Yankees, yeah, but these cheapskates are running the show now. I don't know. Really? Might be a Met. Could be a Met.

Oh, yes! Wow! Fucking trumpets and Shohei? It's possible. It's certainly possible. He could get a different song. Maybe with a saxophone or a good... Who?

Shohei. No, Shohei does... Listen, we're just talking about adding on to the show here. Yeah. Shohei does whatever the hell he wants. If he wants to have the translator go out there first... That'd be awesome. ...introduce him and then him come out, do whatever. You get Shohei in the same hell he wants. If he wants to have the translator go out there first, introduce him,

and then him come out and do whatever. You get Shohei in the same building as those fucking trumpets? Is that the greatest show in sport? Paul Heyman needs to introduce Shohei. Yes, absolutely. There is a chance they lose Edwin Diaz. No, where's he going? To someone who might pay him $100 million.

They might get rid of him to get someone else. No. It's possible. I'm going wherever he goes. Okay. I just would like to let it be known. It's possible. I'm going wherever he goes. Okay. I just would like to let it be known. Oh, yeah. I'm going wherever the trumpets go, and hopefully he's able to play.

Let's talk about some football here before Coach Sirianni joins us in about 20 minutes or so. Mike Tomlin had to chit-chat about what life is like playing against guys like Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson. I think the reason why I enjoyed it is because Mike Tomlin is very thoughtful and not scared to put people over. He's also not scared to talk like some reality to people. As opposed to talking over people's heads or being guarded or anything like that, Mike Tomlin is relatively open.

Now, he has a lot of Tomlinisms in which he's not going to say shit. But when you ask him about certain specific things players normally scheme he opens up because i think he's excited to do so for the good of the sport here's him talking about josh allen and lamar jackson's playmaking ability at his press conference just yesterday are there coaching techniques or principles that you can give guys to try to deal with those situations? Yeah, build a fence. You know, those are his talents. You know, it's just like trying to tackle Lamar Jackson. You know, I was watching him on the other side of the ball deal with Lamar.

And when you're dealing with guys at the quarterback position that have arm and leg talent, it's challenging. And so, you know, you can coach all you want about near leg and building the fence and all of those things, but when they get you in one-on-one circumstances, they're going to win a lot of those. They've been winning a lot of those at every level that they've ever played at since little. Back in the day, Darius, I believe, you know, it was believed. How about that?

I believe that it was believed that the only way you could win is if you have a pocket passer that you have to protect for that can't move you might see them in a pickup basketball game you might see them out and about and this person's making 70 80 million dollars to play quarterback in the nfl and they are not a fucking athlete at all we're talking can't play ping pong can't do shit but they were able to sit in a pocket break down a, and make the right decision. Now, stats have told us that that is still needed to be a successful quarterback and win a Super Bowl. Do you think it was only a matter of time

before somebody who was a freak athlete didn't get moved out of the quarterback position to somewhere else because of the narrative about the quarterback thing? And do you think that everybody knew this was going to happen? Do you think the old heads in the NFL knew that this day was coming? Because it's very obvious.

If you have somebody that can extend a play and make a play by themselves, your team is much better. And the future appears to be that way. I just wonder if it was like only a matter of time, or do you think there was some resistance to this in the football world? Definitely some resistance, like you said, because you've got a much larger sample size of guys doing it from the pocket for so long.

Even the last few, you stafford brady like these guys still do most of their work uh from the pocket but when you have a guy first of all it's opportunity right giving these guys these athletes not being moved from that position and giving them the opportunity to grow at that quarterback position but when you can have the athlete back in there and they can do the same things in the pocket they can still make the reads they can still make the throws jaylen hurts lamar jackson josh allen even kyle murray you know obviously there's room to grow when you have that like time to say when the play breaks down when everything goes to shit those guys just jump off the jump off the screen to make a play so that's

that's that's the difference it's a much more exciting style of football. Oh, yeah. And if you're a fan, I mean, every play, there's a chance. Every day. When you just used to have the guys who couldn't, and obviously only the bangers survive. So in our head, we're just thinking of Peyton. We're just thinking of Tom. We're just thinking of Eli. We're thinking of the uncomfortable falls.

Whenever somebody gets close and they're just down in like fetal position almost, like do not hit me. I need to stand back up. Not getting touched basically, but methodically just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. just down in like fetal position almost like do not hit me i need to stand back up not getting touched basically but methodically just boom boom boom boom not even a thought of the quarterback running i mean those days were obviously good days for teams there was a lot of fucking shitty quarterbacks that played that style of football that fans thought like oh this guy's gonna be just like those guys like he's gonna be able to break there was a lot of motherfuckers that

couldn't break down the defense and knew exactly what the defense was going to do. There was a lot of guys that couldn't put a ball just on an absolute dart. And now as we're getting older and as we are kind of evolving as fans and as a show, we're seeing guys that only move and make plays and it's like, hey, this is football. Only the bangers survive, so people only talk about the pocket quarterbacks that were good. Let's remember there was a bunch of fucking shitty ones. Let's, so people will only talk about the pocket quarterbacks that were good. Let's remember there was a bunch of fucking shitty ones.

Let's also remember there's probably going to be some quarterbacks that are mobile that fucking suck, and that's going to kind of happen as we kind of evolve here. But, man, it feels a lot better whenever you have a guy that can move and playing quarterback and like, all right. And the only reason why I know that is because when I have a bet on a team and it appears as if the offensive line is fucking dead and it's like, okay, need, need at least some

more points here. Need just a little bit more points. Every play it could happen. Now we have Matt Ryan, a quarterback for the Colts. You have Matt Jones, who I guess can move. I've seen him gritty a little bit, but Aaron's always been a guy that could move and throw the ball. I think there's more of that style of football coming in

as opposed to more Tom Brady, and I don't think that's a thing. I think everybody knows that, but I think it's good for the game ultimately. I think this is a fucking good development for everybody. Yeah, I mean, you look at college football now, like how many guys are back there that are just drop-back passers? Like that really doesn't exist anymore. It seems like all of the really good quarterbacks who are coming in are guys who can move or are expected to move in their offenses in college

like i don't know when we'll see another guy like tom or payton who you know i mean i guess arch but even you like you look at him like he's a manning and he can he can move around like it that just really isn't how the game's played anymore yeah i, I love watching these guys. Oh, yeah. And you've got to find that balance, too, of where you don't fall in love with running around. That's like Aaron, right? That's what Aaron's always been good at. Yeah, perfect at it. And because you want to be out there.

Like, these quarterbacks, the guys you mentioned, especially that dude from the pocket, a lot of those guys are like the Ironmen. You know, Peyton was always out there. Eli was always out there. Tom. So, when you do run around, obviously obviously you're going to get hit more. So getting down, you see Kyler. You rarely see him take a big shot.

Lamar, same thing. So being smart with it. Josh Allen takes more shots. He's bigger. But at some point, those hits kind of mount up. So using that athleticism but also getting down when you need to. They run him on isos and pyres and leads and stuff like that. And I get it.

It's definitely a weapon. It is definitely something that he can do that nobody else can do. And he can take advantage of a defense 11 on 11 here. Everybody's got to be matched up. One person has to tackle Josh Allen here. But also, we say it about Lamar. It gets held over Lamar's head all the time. It was getting held over Lamar's head during his negotiation, clearly.

I mean, Josh, what? One massive shot to, like like just out of nowhere, like some awkward shot, and it's like, well, is Josh still going to be able to be Josh? And we just assume Josh is tough enough to handle it, but it's like this is the fucking NFL, and there are massive bodies. Vita Vea dropped into coverage. Vita Vea dropped into coverage against the Packers.

He's nose tackled 340. That's listed. Dropped into coverage. Vitavia dropped into coverage against the Packers. Dropped. He's nose tackle, 340. That's listed. Listed, right. That's listed, 340. Who knows what that is? He drops into coverage, and Aaron Jones gets a ball, and he's running through.

And Vitavia drops his helmet and his shoulder right into Aaron Jones' like spleen and back. Ball comes out. Ball goes the other way or whatever, tamp gets ball back. It's like those types of hits, and Aaron Jones I think is okay or whatever, but if you have a 350-pound dude in space able to hit somebody uncomfortably, there's a chance something's going to happen. So there's always going to be that fear,

but it feels like these guys have the ability to take care of themselves, which is ultimately the best for everybody. I just went through every team here, and in the last, what, three, these young quarterbacks, all of them can move a little bit. Like Herbert, yeah, he's a pocket passer, but he can get out and move a little bit. Like all these guys can move a little bit. The only one I think who's starting right now who maybe doesn't move that much is Dougie Mills, but that's because he's got a fucking arm down on that guy. Yeah, it is for sure. They're worse than they were

last year. Everyone else can move a little bit. Dougie can move. He can run. He's no Dan Jones. Not many are. What do we know about Dan Jones? Over rushing yards. Guy's never gone under

on his total rushing yards. Ever. Never will. 65-0. Running for his total rushing average. Ever. Ever. Never will. 65-0. That's awesome. Running for his life. Sneaky athletic. Yeah. I think he had two touchdowns last week running.

He did? Yep. Saquon Barkley, leading rusher in the NFL right now. Yeah. This is the first time in international game history. I guess the game is not in London this weekend. Where the hell is that about? I don't know.

We said London game yesterday. I had a couple people upset. England game. Okay? Okay. It's the London game. What do they want us to call it? Tottenham game?

Is that what it is? I don't know. Is it in London? It says London. Okay. It's in London, people. This is the issue. Now, this is the only couple people that tweeted me this.

I assumed I was just naturally wrong because I clicked on a person's thing and it said they were from over there or whatever. But this is the issue with you guys right now in Europe. And I don't want to be like, hey, you guys, because we got our own shit to figure out. But you guys, we're not properly educated on the Brexit in UK and the

Emerald Isles in Europe. And what's England? What's Britain? What did the Queen run? We have no idea. Still don't. Was it that entire town over there? Is it the What's Britain? What's like? I don't fuck. What did the queen run? We have no idea. No, still don't. Was it that entire town over there? Is it the entire like great Britain? Is it England?

Is it what? I don't know any. I wanted to let you know. Appreciate everything you guys do. Don't have a fucking clue how you guys operate. No, no, no, no,

no. Tottenham is a town in North London. Okay. Sorry about it. Sounds like London to me. Okay. So we're going to Brooklyn. All right.

We're going to Tottenham in London this weekend with the NFL. Sorry about it. Seems like it's been a great time. They showed the crowd a lot last week. Hey, the blokes were having a good time. Yeah, they love it. The lads were having a lad of the lad day. They were having a blast out there.

Always loud. Great game. And this year, it seems like this is going to become a common occurrence because there's a game in Germany that's going to be good. Thursday night game is going to be good. This weekend, it has the first time a reigning MVP has gone to England and played in a football game. That actually mattered.

First time a leading rusher has been in a game in England. First time the teams have had two winning records playing in England. I mean, this is like a big fuck. I'm happy. Let's keep growing the game, D-Buck. Good for England, man. Finally finished some good games, good teams over there. They deserve it, I guess. I think so. I think they do. You see the big news?

They're selling cheeseheads in the Tottenham shop. There may be 50,000 cheeseheads at Tottenham on fucking Sunday. Home game. It's a home game. Home game. It's a home game. It really is. You know, Giants have no chance.

So nobody wants to give up a game with the Green Bay Packers to go to England. This is what Aaron said yesterday. Because if it's a home game, obviously you don't want to give up a home game. But if it's a home game with the Packers coming to town, their fans are going to show up. So the reason why the Packers potentially haven't been to England in so long is because there has been zero times where a team has said, you know what, yeah, let's leave when the Packers come to town.

Packers have always been good. Packers fans always show up. Are they as much as the Chiefs? You guys show up as much as the Chiefs right now, Packers fans? I'd say so. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, they don't have the home of the Chiefs.

They can't take over the anthem like the Chiefs can. But I'd say in terms of just traveling, like, yeah, Packers fans will show up. I wonder about, like, Kelsey and Mahomes and them sitting there on the sideline of an away game, just looking around. And as the national anthem's going, maybe some guy's doing their little prayer thing or guys are getting teary-eyed and feeling a little good and vibing or whatever. And then towards the end of that national anthem, I wonder

if they look around and they're like, I wonder if our people are here or not. And then that home of the Chiefs! I wonder if all the Chiefs guys are like, yep, alright. We got it. We got a fucking home game here. Gotta be a good feeling.

As the game's starting, and if you're the home team, you are like, yep, all right. We got it. We got a fucking home game here. Got to be a good feeling. Got to be a good feeling. As the game's starting, and if you're the home team, you're like, God damn. All right, so we'll have to go to a goddamn silent count at home here with the Chiefs. I mean, that is a very cool, I think it was a smart idea to take over the national anthem. Yeah.

I think that has become a very, very clever, it's an indicator, I think, of what, now granted, the Chiefs lost to the Colts just one week ago. Sure. In Indianapolis. And they still had that. Loud cheese! And they were loud numerous times. Loud. Very loud. But I think that's a good way to set the standard. The Packers don't have that, huh? Just the Cheeseheads.

Yeah, pretty much. It's disrespectful. I don't care for it. Yeah, exactly. For what? Home of the brave. Yeah, it's true. They respect the troops. Well, it's home of the free because of the brave. Amen. That's right. People forget, especially whenever chiefs come to town.

Exactly. They don't even think about it. They don't even think about the military. Now, this is another thing. I was watching the National Anthem from the suites the other day. All the military people there that were saluting had their hats on. That's always the case, I believe. Right? How come everybody... Yeah, I i guess it is is that a military exclusive i don't know camera people shooting it

big hats on oh geez really people moving stuff off the field all had hats on it felt like that's a problem and everybody in the city is with the hats off and then but the army the military people over there hats on it's like what's? I don't know what's right. Is it because you have to take a ball cap off, but you can leave the military cap on? It says if you're in civilian dress, you've got to take that hat off. But if you're not in civilian dress, it makes no sense. Okay.

There's the rules. All right, there's the rules. We got the rules. Got it. Got the rules. Good to know. All right, that is great to know. Yeah.

I was never a hand over heart guy for the national anthem. I'm hands, I'm kind of hands down at the side. But every once in a while, I will feel obligated to do hand on heart with who I'm standing next to. Because if it's like four people, you know, like full on, and I'm just like sitting there like this, and there's a random photo taken, the natural thing is going to be, who the fuck's this asshole right there? What's he doing? Literally to his left and his right,

they're telling him what the fuck to do. It's like, well, is this the Pledge of Allegiance? What the fuck is it? I don't know. Has that always been a, I don't know if that's a, here it is. So it says, if you're in civilian dress, stand at attention, remove your hat with your right hand, hold it over the left side of your chest

with your right hand over your heart. If you're not wearing a hat, place your right hand over your heart. In either case, wearing a hat, place your right hand over your heart. In either case, stay in position until the music stops. Is this for military personnel or humans? This is military customs and courtesies, but this is talking about if you're in civilian dress. I think you are.

I'm a military personnel. Correct. Yeah. So that's not me. Hey, you get it. Yeah. Tony, can you roll to the chapter where it says, Blasting Bruce Springsteen's Born in the USA from your cell phone while the anthem is being sung?

That says if you are in the continental U.S., you don't have to do it in Alaska or Hawaii. You have to do it 100% of the time. Because that was happening in a suite around us. That's awesome. Well, really? We can't say much because we have four different TVs on in our suite, and they were all the loudest TVs I've ever heard in my life. Yeah, you were watching them.

No, when the National Anthem was on. It's not of the National Anthem. No, I think like Boomer Sims was doing a full breakdown in the back, and then I think there was another situation that happened on NFL Network as that National Anthem was going. Like, oh, let's wrap it up or whatever. So the stadium was quiet, and you only hear those TVs? They were singing.

Christian Singer was singing the national anthem. She was so good. So good, by the way. You said top five. Top five I've ever heard. High praise. What would you have done if she stopped and goes, what is that noise?

Literally, as we were standing there, there was a big, big pop off one of the shows behind us. And I seen the suite next to us. I saw them all react to it. I'm like, oh, here we go. Opportunity to talk, I guess. And they did not, though. They were a little bit like, where's that?

Are people yelling right now? It's like, oh, no, it's the four fucking TVs they have on there. Loud as hell. We got to look for that next time. But the Bruce Springsteen blasting out of the one suite a couple down was a nice little touch of national anthem. Awesome. As you're listening to it, it's like, oh, that's what

born in the U.S. Oh, man. It's like, oh, my God. Over here, a little patriotic boner overload. Love what you guys are doing. All right, so I don't have to do the hard thing. I'm not in the military. Actually, it's a stolen valor if you're out there. You could argue.

And you're not in it. You could argue that it is, yeah. Big time. I'll keep digging. I'm fine. I'm sure. You said a lot in your maybe voice there, so we don't know what's real and what isn't. It's true.

It's a new civilian protocol. Mike Tomlin, continue to chit-chat about the Buffalo Bills because it's a big-time game this weekend. Obviously, Kenny Pickett's first game is going to be a potential problem with Jordan Poirier on the hunt for 12 picks this season. If he does, we will donate a million dollars to Jordan Poirier Foundation. I believe that has been officialized. 12 would be the record for the safety position in one season. He has four on track for 17.

If he gets 12, we'll donate a million. He's a cool dude. He was on here yesterday, had a sprained foot, did the toe exercises to get back on the field, missed the Miami game. They felt it. He's back. They're back. They also brought in a guy who's a two-time Super Bowl champion,

two different programs. That person, Vaughn Miller, was asked by Mike Tomlin to explain basically why Vaughn Miller is Vaughn Miller. And Mike Tomlin had an incredible answer that you know we're going to love about halfway through this when he starts chit-chatting about the reality of the situation. What do you think it is about Vaughn Miller that's allowed him to be so consistent for so long through age and injury?

He's Vaughn Miller. Some guys are aliens visiting from another planet. And that's just the reality of it. Man, in the National Football League, man, you've got to respect all these guys, right? They're all freaky. But some guys are even freaky in our setting. And he's just one of those guys. He always has been since he came out of A&M, moving and changing and running like a corner.

He needs no endorsement from me. His resume is his resume. It is what it is. Kudos to Vaughn Miller. Tip of the cap to Vaughn Miller. And I'll say this. We talk about his talents often, but this guy is a scientist. He works at his craft.

He encourages, trains others to do so that are like him. That Edge Rush Summit and things that he's a critical component of, I got a lot of respect for. I spent a week with him in Orlando when we coached the Pro Bowl and just to see the professional and scientific approach that he takes to his craft, even in a setting like that. That guy was the reason we won that Pro Bowl game. You know, I know we don't spend a lot of time talking about the outcomes of Pro Bowl games,

but man, Von Miller took over that Pro Bowl game and, and gave us all quality checks, man. And we appreciate his effort. I love Mike Tomlin. I enjoy the hell out of him. I like the fact that Vaughn Miller gets respect from everybody

because everybody in football knows how great he is. What makes him so dynamic? I guess it's that line that he's a pass rusher who can move like a corner and always been able to do it. Him talking to us last week about he's trying to play the game like he's the offensive coordinator. That's that next level shit, right? That just different aliens

have within the NFL. Obviously, you got those alien-like physical's that next level shit, right, that just different aliens have within the NFL? Obviously, you got those alien-like physical gifts, like Mike T said, man, what he brings to the game from the mental side. That's what separates him. And it's crazy that he's still doing it at this level. A lot of people saw that deal, saw that contract, and were like, wow, you know. But now you see why. And he was one of those guys where, as a defensive player,

when you're offense on the field, you're up. You're standing up on the sideline. You're watching. You're like, okay, let me see. Let me see what 58 or now 40, what he's doing out there. And it's special. Game breaker. Week in and week out, he's a game breaker.

Somebody got to circle. They talked a lot of shit about him when he signed that deal. Oh, yeah? He's washed. He's this. He's that. He's turned out to be quite a weapon for the Buffalo Bills here early. We're about to be joined by a man who became a head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles last season.

It seemed as if the organization was on fire, burning from within. This dude was able to get them back on track to make the playoffs. They did not win in the playoffs, but still made the playoffs this season. They're the only team that remains undefeated for the entirety of the NFL. Ladies and gentlemen, a man with the Doge mentality, Paisano, Coach Sirianni. Yeah! What's up, Coach? Hey, thanks for having me, guys. Hey, you're fucking awesome, dude.

You know that. Because I did not encounter you with the Indianapolis Colts. I knew you were there. Then you leave. You go to Philadelphia. You get the head coaching job. And everybody I've talked to has been so excited for your success, and everybody knew it was coming.

When you get your head coaching opportunity for the first time with Philly, and that press conference was terrible. I think you would even admit that looking back, but when you get that head coaching gig for the first time, like what's your mentality, could it have gone any better than it already has? You seem to have turned an organization completely around coach. You know, this organization is unbelievable as far as the people in this building. Uh, you know, we got a great support staff and I wasn't like any other head coach that came in the first year in the sense of like, who has four guys on the offense and

defensive line that have been there for 10 years with Jason Kelsey, Brandon Graham, Lane Johnson, right. And Fletcher Cox. Right. So I was, I was able to come into place and, and we know you guys know, I mean, you win football games because you're good on the offensive and defensive line. So I had a much smoother transition, and I'm just excited to be here in Philadelphia and look to keep building on what we've been doing. Were you worried that you were going to have to change at all? You know, because you make some metaphors that are fucking fantastic.

Hey, listen, whenever you're just, like, comfortable enough, especially in a city like Philadelphia, you know, because if you think about the Eagles fans, they have their first Super Bowl 50 years or whatever. There's fans actually eating horse shit in the parade, losing their mind, their statues going up. And then just a couple of years later now, there's probably a lot more from within. And there's no reason to dive into that with you. You're the head coach. You weren't there. But from looking inside the building, it's like then everything just got ruined so quickly

and there was like potential fights on a field and disarray then you come in and it felt like you never wavered from who you were you know you were not going to speak about things in a cookie cutter fashion did you ever feel any pressure that you're going to have to change and adapt to being a head coach and speaking in the same bullshit ways that every other head coach talks in? You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying by that? Yeah, I do, Pat. You know, I really didn't. Some of the best advice I got was be yourself because if you're not yourself, everyone's going to see through it. Not most importantly, the freaking players are going to see through if you're not yourself, right? And they'll see through it like that, right? And so, and then, right, the freaking players are going to see through if you're not yourself. Right. And they'll see through it like that. Right. And so and then right. The whole community will

everybody will see through it. So I just was myself and I just continue to be myself. And if that's saying some crazy shit, like with with the flower analogy and stuff like that, then whatever I got to do to get my point across, I'm going to do if that show a video, if that's have analogy, you know, our guys get it. I got great captains. I got to do to get my point across, I'm going to do. If that's show a video, if that's have analogy, you know, our guys get it. I got great captains. I got great guys on this football team. They understand. And sometimes they can sort through my bullshit story and figure it out themselves with what I'm trying to get across.

Yeah, the messaging is the same. You're just doing it in your own way. And I think that's the most important part. And being authentic, you're 100% right. As you were saying, if I wasn't me, everybody in would tell, the fucking locker room immediately going to be like, well, this guy, he's a stooge. We are not. We're not listening to this guy. It feels like your team has fully bought into your message. The only team left undefeated, and that's a curse, obviously. There's only been one team in the history of the NFL that's been able to do it. It's very difficult.

You're going to run into adversity. You fucking know it. All that stuff's going to happen. But you have had this mighty success. And I think a lot of it is Jalen Hurts, right? I mean, we can dive into A.J. Brown being brought in on draft night and the defense being like, you know, ball hawks all over the place and dogs everywhere. But the question going into the season was, will Jalen Hurts be able to be a guy in the NFL long term like he was in Alabama, like he was in Oklahoma. What is it about Jalen you think from your point of view last year to this year that is like cementing him as a guy that people are talking about, this motherfucker might win the MVP, dude.

Going into the season is, is Jalen Hurts a guy? Now it's like, is Jalen Hurts the MVP of the season? What have you seen from your quarterback that makes you go like, yeah, this is our guy? Well, I know it's one thing you want me to say. He's a dog. He's a dog. Yeah, he is. Isn't he? Let me, let me tell you. Love it. Let me tell you why I think that. And what I, what I think dog mentality is dog mentality is truly. And I know you,

I've heard a couple of clips. People show me some clips of what you guys portray, what I think dog mentality is truly and I know you I've heard a couple clips people show me some clips portray what I think dog mentality is but dog mentality really is to be in the moment that you're in now and not worry about what happened in the past not worry about what's going to happen in the future it's all about our process and about being here today to make sure we're going about to go one and oh this week that's it and so And so let me give you some examples of Jalen Hurts and who he is as a football player. He makes an unbelievable, he makes maybe one of the best plays I've ever seen a quarterback make on his feet against New Orleans last year. We've all seen that. People around Philadelphia are going to be playing that for the next 30 years. And he

runs for a touchdown, puts us up 40 to, I don't know what it was, 40 to 23. And he has this look on his face like, I'm ready to go do it again. He has this play against the Washington football team last year where he fumbles the football. He fumbles the football. We go down 10-0. I'm screaming in his face. I mean, I'm right here screaming in his face. And guess what his face looked like.

The same thing he looked like when we were in New Orleans and he made that run. Then we go to Washington, we go to Washington and the damn bleachers almost fall on him. Bleachers collapse and almost fall on him and same damn look, same damn look. And so that's who he is. And he doesn't get too up. He doesn't ride, right? There's such a wave of the season in the NFL. And you can't ride it, right?

Because we play once a week. So everyone's looking for things to talk about that week. You lose, it's over. You win, you're the best team ever. And so he knows how to stay steady. And that's a great thing for your captain of your football team and the leader of your football team and the quarterback of your football team to have. Yeah, very mature it sounds like, and he had to be.

I mean, he went, obviously, Alabama, went through a lot there, wins there, goes through a lot, goes to Oklahoma, same situation. Draft day, this guy can't do it. I mean, there is just, it feels like he is a wise man way beyond his years, as are you. Now, when you think about the future of the Philadelphia Eagles, and you said they'll be running that Jalen Hurts clip for 30 years from now. Hey, you're there forever, huh? Like, you have to have that mindset as the head coach?

Like, do you feel like you're the perfect head coach for the Philadelphia Eagles? Because it feels like the team that you have is the perfect representative of the city of Philadelphia. And I might be wrong. I'm from Pittsburgh, so the Johns are going to judge me for that. But it does feel like the dog mentality of the team that you put together is the perfect representation of the city that is Philadelphia. And you're having success. Do you feel like this is home? And how quickly was that comfort level with the city of Philadelphia,

which can obviously be known as a pretty fiery place? You know, I love the passion that this city has and how much it cares about football, right? I've been at some places where you had to do crowd noise when you were playing at home, right? And that sucks, right? And so, like, a city like Philadelphia where you have such an unbelievable advantage when people come in here as far as you know, it's going to be hard to communicate as an offense here.

And so like I love the passion of the city and how much they care about football because I care about football. I love football. I don't have a lot of hobbies. And my biggest hobby is football. And so like, and that's the way the city is as well. And then it's like, I believe our team led by those, those offense and defense alignment are mean, nasty, physical, right. And that's, and that's what we want to be, right. We want to be a mean, nasty, physical team. And that's what we based our identity on last year when we got it rolling. And I think that's what we're seeing that we are now but with all that being said this is a close city or pardon me a close team um that that loves each other and wants to be around each other so we know we we connect and when we're physical and that's what we want to bring to the table each week a tight

knit group that'll beat the hell out of you that's a tough squad to beat and it seems like you haven't figured out. Connor has a question for you here. Coach, go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Coach, I believe you got Jason Kelsey two kegs of beer to bring him back to the team this year. Were there any other options that you were thinking of getting for him? And when you guys traded for A.J. Brown, did you get him any gifts,

maybe a dog perhaps to kind of embody that mentality? I definitely got Jason Kelsey, the kegs of beer. And I know he enjoyed those. I was just trying to sweeten the deal of him coming back. And you know what? As long as I'm the football coach here, I want him here.

So I'm ready to give as many kegs of beer to him next year. And the year after that, and the year after that, because that guy is a dog. Yeah. That guy's awesome. He is. He's awesome he is he's awesome he's one of the smartest football players i've ever been around not only is he the

toughest guy one of the toughest guys i know or the toughest guy i know he's one of the most intelligent football players i've ever been around um of setting the table for everybody and knowing you know getting everybody on the same page on offensive plays he's nimble too we've watched some clips of him pulling you guys always have him pulling everywhere with your run game. That is awesome to watch unfold your run game, especially with Jalen being the weapon he is that is kind of commanding the bum-ass safeties and linebackers to have to respect him on the option every single time.

But he's so nimble at his age. Do you have a guesstimation on how long he's playing? Is he just going to play forever, you think, with Jason Kelsey? Shoot, I hope so. You know how I feel. I hope so. But you know what I got to do probably is because he is so nimble, I probably got to get him a couple carries. Steichen and I got to get him in the backfield. Report is eligible and then give him a couple carries, maybe a screen, maybe a dive. I don't know. We're going to have to do something. Maybe that's my gift to him this year instead of the keg and sweeten the deal that maybe he'll get him to come back. Could you imagine him lining up at fullback or running back?

Everybody would be going bananas. He'd be thankful. This city would be going nuts. Oh, my God. Then he'd give a speech in that big fucking costume, and then he'd be hammered drunk. I love him. If you listen to his new podcast with his brother,

it's very good, called New Heights. I get clips of it every once in a while, and I really enjoy what I'm hearing. I have not listened to it. I need to put it on on one of my trips home and listen to it. Your only hobby is football. I forget. Oh, yeah.

I mean, what are we doing? If we're not watching football, more film, getting better. Darius Butler has a question for you, Coach. Hey, Coach, you talked about your leaders uh multiple times in the interview tell me a little bit about big play Slay as a captain this year what he brings to the table that you know most of us don't see yeah you know this is Slay's first time being a captain and which actually shocks me because he is one of the best leaders on this football team and that's why you know that's why the guys voted him captain you know not only is he a great football player who's

able to, you know, take a guy out of the game and not let him, you know, get started whether that's, you know, just him covering them one-on-one the whole game, or just him lining up there and the fear that he, that he creates to that guy. But he's also just, he, you know, he's always trying to help the younger guys and there's nothing in him that's saying, oh, this guy's coming out for my job. No, he, he, all he cares about is that this team gets better and better and better. So, you know, we had to play Zach McPherson last week. Slay got a little dinged last week and we, and we had to play his backup and everything that Slay, Slay's not holding any coaching points back from Zach. He's getting him

as much ready as he possibly can, you know, to be the player that Zach can be. And you see that every day with Slay. He cares about the community. He cares about his teammates. And the other thing with Slay is, like, when we signed James Bradbury, who's been a great addition, a great addition by Howie and his staff, the person that was the most excited about it was Slay.

And so that's who he is. You know, not only a great player, great teammate, great person. And that's why he's a leader and a captain of this football team. What's your relationship like with Howie there? You just talked about him and how good their team has done. Obviously, they've invested. They've gone all in, it felt like, from ownership all the way down. What is your relationship with them like?

And what was the expectation going in? Was it always the way it is now? Or did it kind of have to grow? Yeah, you know, Howie's awesome to work with. We talk about everything. I'm, you know, I talked about the offensive line I came in with and the defensive line that I came in with and why my transition, you know, besides the opening press conference, why my transition was pretty smooth in and besides the two and five start but howie's a big part of that howie's a big part of that because i think when you see a lot of organizations the head coach is coming in with the gm and they're both they're both they're both going about their same the first year the same time like and they're trying to learn i i got a guy who's been doing it for 15 years that has been in this building in this city for 20 years that it can help me navigate through

everything and work together to put the best product on the field. So, but as far as the expectation, you know, my expectation from the day I got here was like, I'm in the NFL. Like we got to win. I don't care what we think about what's going to happen. We got to win. And so, you know, and then like your Philly, you know, and the radio and the first part when I was here was like, this is a rebuilding year, and they're going to have a rebuilding year here. And so then we're in the – let me tell a quick story.

We're in the first preseason game, second preseason game. We played Pittsburgh first, and then we played New England. And all I'm hearing is rebuild, rebuild, rebuild. That's not my mindset, but I'm hearing everybody say rebuild, rebuild, rebuild, whatever. We are getting our ass kicked in this preseason game. Belichick is taking it to us. And it's halftime, and we are getting booed like you've never been. I was like, we are getting booed like you've never been i i was like we're getting booed like

so the expectation may have been uh you know that this was a rebuild year but the people of philadelphia let me know very quickly in my first year is there's no rebuild here in philadelphia you starting two and five is hilarious that you just said that in there because you've obviously thought of that yeah things but things are real good now we're undefeated boys let me take you back to two and five last. I was getting fucking booed out of the grocery store. Philadelphia, you want to have those passionate fans.

I got a damn flower thrown at me. A flower chucked down. We lost to the Chargers. Boom, flower chucked down. So, hey, that happens. How's your little manure settling in? That's literally what that person that's literally what that john said as they were throwing that john at you they were like how's the manure

and how's the flowers coming coach and here we are now it feels like you guys are in a great spot what is your messaging to the team now it's a lot harder to coach an undefeated team right that's what they say it's a lot harder whenever you're having success than it is when you have your failures because there's a lot to motivate from when you aren't doing good. What's your messaging now? How are you talking to them? I actually think, you know, I went to Mount Union, and that's a small Division III school in Ohio. And my time there, my five years there, because it took me five years to graduate.

I'm not ashamed of that. We were 66-2 in five years. We won three national championships there. Not bad. And so Larry Karras, Larry Karras, my, my coach, who is the greatest coach of all time. And I, and I've said, I talked to him still, he still gives me advice. He, I called him last week about the wind, how to play in the wind and the rain and just some, some other reminders. He was great about that. You know, he was great about, you know, he coached us

even harder when we won. He coached us even harder when we won. And so like, I'm blessed that I came up in that sit and that and like a program like that, that knows how to, you know, how to handle success. So I actually think it's easier to coach guys harder when you're winning. I think it's way easier. I think it's way easier. I think it's way easier. Now, that doesn't mean you've got to, like, we've got to make sure, like, our thing, again, I know, dog mentality, okay, is this, right? No matter what situation you're in, you're thinking about the day, right? And so if you're 2-5, if you're 5-2, if you're down 14-0 like we were last week

or up 14-0, just be right there. And just be right there and control what you can control and go through the process here. And like, all right, you made a great play, great. Dog mentality, make it again, do what you did. You made a shitty play, don't do it again. Dog mentality. Opposite, right?

So, you know, the message is just stick to the process of why we've gotten to this spot and keep working like crazy, and good things are going to happen. Hey, Coach, I love to hear that. It's probably easier to get everybody to buy into, not that it ever isn't, because it feels like you have a relationship with all your players. But whenever it's working, too, it feels like everybody's like, all right, we'll fucking do this. We'll do this. We'll do this. We'll do this.

It's working. Do we like this? Yes. Is life better right now? Yes. Let's continue to do this and continue working do we like this yes is life better right now yes let's continue to do this and continue to have success and i don't know how often this has happened to you but there's another coach that wants to talk to you uh coach sirianni your question for coach sirianni coach

it's great to finally uh be able to talk to you i feel like i know you just as good as i know myself we've we've talked a lot about dog mentality today. I want to tell you what dog mentality means to me. It's having more bite than you have bark. It's being ferocious and vicious. It's playing in a parking lot like Vince Papali, if necessary, doing all these little things we need to do to prepare to win a game. But my question for you is, do you know right away if a guy has dog mentality? And if he doesn't have dog mentality,

is there anything you can do to kind of bring that dog mentality out of him? Dog mentality is a prerequisite of getting on this football team. So we try like crazy to figure it out, to figure out the toughness, the mental toughness, the physical toughness that a guy has in the draft process or in the free agency process. And so we're working like crazy. Does that mean everybody have it? No. And if they don't, you just got to get them around Jason Kelsey and Lane Johnson and Brandon Graham for a minute. And they'll turn them into some dogs. Love hearing that. Speaking of the draft process, I know one of the things we really love to do to kind of test the guy's competitive juices

is maybe have him make a couple shots on a mini basketball hoop or play rochambeau or rock paper scissors i have a proposition for you you maybe give away some money to fans of the show do you maybe want to play best two out of three rock paper scissors coach first coach if you win we will $500 to 15 people who retweet this video. If I win, we'll give 10 people $500 who retweet this video, as long as they put their cash app in the tweet as well. I want to play no matter what because I want to compete, but you're telling me I don't have to donate shit?

You don't have to donate shit. We will be donating everything. Yeah, you don't have to donate shit? You don't have to donate shit. We will be donating everything. Yeah, you don't have to donate a single thing. It will all be us. Now, listen, this isn't, you're not shooting on the third hit. No, it's rock, paper, scissors, and then we're shooting that, John. So rock, paper, scissors. We say shoot or we just throw it?

Your call, coach. Would you like to say shoot? Can we say shoot? That's how I'm used to calling it. We'll say shoot. That's how you play used to calling out. We'll say shoot. That's how you play in Western New York. That's how you do it. Kind of right outside of Erie, Pennsylvania.

That's how you do it. Okay. Best place to get a cheesesteak in Philadelphia before we start? Ooh. I'm going to sound like a Taurus. Don't say Gino's your pass, Coach. Don't say Gino's your pass. You know what?

I'm going to go with the people at the cafeteria right here. James and his crew in the cafeteria. They make a damn good cheesesteak. That's dog mentality. Try it to Alessandro's if you haven't tried it. All right. You ready to go? Yeah.

All right. Rock, paper, scissors. Paper, scissors. Shoot. Oh. What you got? Scissors. Scissors.

Yeah. We're the same person. We're both three scissors. Rock, paper shoot rock rock paper scissors, shoot. Scissors again. Scissors again. Rock, paper, scissors, shoot. Oh! I think you might have rock there. Hey, you got no idea what I'm going to do because you're like, there's no way he's throwing scissors again. Come on, baby. Okay, hey, this is game seven here.

Rock, paper, scissors, shoot. Scissors here rock rock paper scissors scissors shoot. Oh Through scissors again Rock paper scissors Shoot oh Hey, this is for 15 or 10 paper scissors shoot Hey, this is for 15 or 10. Paper, scissors, shoot. Oh!

Dog mentality. I got dog mentality, Coach. What can I tell you? Hey, that was awesome. Appreciate you guys. Thank you, Coaches. Thank you, Coaches. Thank you, Coaches. Now, since this Coach Sirianni lost, only 10 winners.

Sorry. He's done more research on you. Sorry, guys. Coach, thank you so much for your time. I know you're very busy on this glorious Wednesday. Good luck with preparation for the Arizona Cardinals and good luck the rest of the way. Hey, thanks a lot.

Thanks for having me on, guys. No, you're the best. Ladies and gentlemen, Paisaunia. Coach, see you real soon. Yeah, coach. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk. How are you, pal? Well, I got to see all of Sirianni, both Siriannis, and I found it.

I wasn't really sure who to root for in the Rock, Paper, Scissors game, honestly. I didn't really know. I don't know who I was pulling for. Well, for the people, you should have been rooting for Philadelphia Coach Sirianni, you know, because 15 winners instead of 10 winners. But I think after talking to him, I love that guy. If he was on this stage, I think he'd be able to, like every day, I think Sirianni would be able to post up right here every single day on this show if he had to. And I think that's why his players love him, and that's why he's having success, to be honest with you.

Don't you think, AJ, after listening to him? I love that fucking guy now. Oh, I mean, yeah, think of like any, just think of a current NFL head coach on a team that's undefeated right now sat here and had a conversation in a Rochambeau match with a guy that's impersonating him and usually doesn't put him in the best light when he does impersonate him. Whoa. Hey, AJ. What are you talking about?

What's that all about? It's gotten better over the years, man. Over the last year, maybe it's gotten more positive. But still, that's credit to Sirianni. I addressed the opening press conference. Had to. He addressed the opening press conference as well later. And maybe not after the first press conference.

And after you go two and five. You saw him reminiscing through what life was like when he was getting booed in the second preseason game in Philadelphia during the media calling a rebuild year. And he was like, the people of Philly, I don't think they got that message. I don't know if anybody told Philadelphia people that this was a rebuild year.

We're going to have to win now. They make the playoffs. It was at that point when that team started turning, I do believe we started treating them out. If we would have known him, I think we would have been nice to him long before. For sure. Did you hear that guy talk?

Hey, hear him talking? He was like, the fucking uh the captains they get my message and they translate it to everybody through the bullshit yeah they send through the bullshit it's like this guy's awesome and he was talking about authenticity and if you are anybody but yourself everybody's going to notice it they're not going to react to it like everything he's saying i'm like yeah this guy gets it right this guy gets it it seems like yeah he absolutely gets it and he knows like yeah he's authentic he's himself he's not scared of that and yeah people may have to sift through some of it

maybe early on can you imagine guys that come in maybe four years from now and he's like they're like wait what what does this mean like hold on hold on and he even probably tells them hey if you don't understand what i'm talking about young guys get with the older guys they'll get you squared away hey so we're planting a seed, all right? But sometimes, just like a green at a golf course, you have to aerate the grass to get the seed into the ground. Right now, we're aerating the green, okay? Because we want to have smooth putts later. So we're currently rolling it. We're beating it up, actually. We're making it worse right now so that later life is even better. And that's what our team is. That's why we're going through a hard training camp. We got to beat down our team so that our putts are smoother later.

And if you don't know what that means, ask one of the fucking older guys. It's a great metaphor. It is like he has to do a lot of that stuff, you know. And I enjoy the hell out of it. You know what else I enjoy, AJ Hawk? What would that be? I enjoy the Hawk House a lot, dude. I enjoy the Hawk House a lot.

I've been using it every morning. It's been perfect for me. It's been great for me. And it feels like everything that we got in there, aside from the cardio equipment, which I guess we got fucked on. I guess we just got completely fucked out of or whatever. Other than that, though, everything's amazing. I appreciate your effort and Schlegel's effort in there.

Thank you. There's one or two more little things I want to try to sneak in there. But, yeah, we'll see. I was doing some iso split squats this morning. You know what I mean? Really? Some military. I'll tell you what. I like doing that old school lat pull-down machine. but yeah we'll see i was doing some iso split squats this morning you know what i mean really some military i'll tell you what i like doing that like old school lat pull down machine it has the low row two attachment if you sit down on the ground i just that felt good i was getting

some reps in saturday night yeah i don't know if i'm as sophisticated as everybody else in weight rooms i just want to be able to do the shit that i can do and please make me look stronger more jobs you know everybody this squat so that Those squats, those squats, that's for real. That's good for the legs. Yeah, yeah. Kettlebells? No kettlebells yet. I mean, maybe next week or the week after.

I used to do those. That used to be a thing I would do a lot, and I would add weight. I'm not at the point now. Actually, the leg was shaking today. Had to fucking shake a leg in the back. It's good. It's normal. Split squat is this bad boy right here.

You know what I mean? It's this right here. It feels good. Get a good stretch on your hip flexor, groin area. It's one of these, and you're supposed to keep your knee six inches off the ground or whatever. And my pants are a little bit too tight to be doing it properly. You're supposed to be completely square on there. My back leg was fucking funny.

I was taking a pass set this morning on both legs. Love the Hawk House. Love the Thunderdome. You know, travel to this place is so much better for basically all of us other than Boston Connor and one other person. Love the amenities. Love the opportunities. Love the fact that our show is taking quite a turn today, AJ. You know why?

What happened? We have a new cast member. Really? Everybody's talking about, you know, us changing and the show changing and evolving. Everything's better in your life at this place, but I like the old shitty place. And we appreciate that. We did too.

We had great times there, but it was the right time to get out of there for everybody. And although this place is nicer, we will certainly take our time and do our best and beat the shit out of it. Just like the last place. And we'll be able to find our home, but everybody's wondering what's that mean for the show? You know, we got NFL it. Just like the last place. We'll be able to find our home, but everybody's wondering, what's that mean for the show? We've got NFL footage,

we have these breakdowns, we have these segments. I feel like I'm getting better and smarter at football, which is great. It's awesome. But we're adding a new cast member. Had to do it. Actually, the boys didn't even know about it until I sprung it on them, didn't I? No clue. I said, congratulations boys. Got somebody new on the show.

I like the new cast member. That wasn't the initial response. The initial response was a little bit worried. You think you can just plug and place anybody here? I said, yeah, I think I can. With this one right here, I think I can just fucking figure out who can fit and who can't fit. You know that, AJ? Who is it, Phil Mickelson? Jesus.

What is that about? I'm trying to run through names in my head. It would be awesome if it was That's a good idea Phil Mickelson would certainly be an interesting story Especially now and then everything we've heard about him in the past Right He hasn't been sick in 12 years since he started drinking coffee He also has that coffee stuff that doesn't have the jitters somehow

He has the ability to put a bunch of shit in his coffee Not mayonnaise like Will Levis at Kentucky But he puts a bunch of other shit in his coffee And there's no jitters But there's a lot of shit to his coffee. Not mayonnaise like Will Levis at Kentucky, but he puts a bunch of other shit in his coffee and there's no jitters. But there's a lot of shit to talk about with Phil Mickelson. We're not able to afford Phil Mickelson with this particular deal. Maybe the next one.

Maybe the next one. Clean money, at least. So in an attempt to ruin the chemistry of this show, I've decided to add another member. And I was told this by a couple of college football fans on college game day they say best way to ruin an ingredient is to fucking ruin a recipe and add something well i'm doing a lot of that ladies and gentlemen we have a fucking robot we have a robot

this thing right in front of the stage right here is a robot this thing is designed and put together by fucking space rocket scientists this is one of the most sturdy things of all time in this particular robot that is to be named by somebody on the internet okay name our robot has added quite quite a new angle for us to have this is just one of the shots that this fucking robot can do. Whoa. It's moving. It's sliding. Go wide.

Go wide. Go wide. Go wide. It's sliding. Go back to it. Boom. Look at this thing. Look at this thing.

Oh, my God. AJ, what are we doing? Who's controlling that? Is Eddie controlling that? So Hax should had to get... Sweet Blake. Lambda. It's not Sweet Blake.

It's not Lambda. Not yet. It actually had to get coded in there this morning. There's Dumas. Hey. Hey, how you doing? Hey. That's sweet.

He's on the track. Does the track move or is it always right there? Track will be there. So that's going to have to be a thing. Certainly didn't leave enough room. I can only shoot baskets this way now, away from the robot. No, no, we're going to put something

over top of the robot. Make sure it's safe. But we only have like one or two presets for this thing thus far. We will be able to add like 10 or more, I guess. That one angle that I just saw is kind of like watching a sitcom. It's pretty sweet.

Yeah, yeah, go to that side one there. Let me tell you about what's going on. Are you Jerry Seinfeld? That's pretty good. Sitcom, yeah. It's like when Kramer had his own set on Seinfeld. Diva, look how cool you look. AJ, look at you.

You guys love Kramer. Sweet. All right, relax. AJ, look at you. This shit is dope. It is. Yeah, so we'll be able to work that in there how will it be used who knows will we break it probably impossible but whenever it's presented

this is like the old intro what am i supposed to do look at something that i can definitely afford and say what am i supposed to that thing goes up and down as well they're like we can add this thing in there and now we did not know that this dolly was on the ground we thought that it was going to be on right on the stage turns out it is not okay it's too wide to do that uh so i'm sure there was some blueprint that was either misread or misdone yeah but you were protected though all we had to do is put the guarding cap on true yeah and you're doing kickflop flips off the stage over the uh over the rails uh earlier which was sweet well actually like it was the old days, I put the grinder shoes on. That's right.

And I ran up here. Hit a 50-50 right on the edge of it. Yeah. That was a white thing? You guys have any of those? No, I had the video game, though, Tony Hall. There it is. Sick.

Kareem Campbell. Sick game. I got a friend who was a skater, too, Mikey Taylor. Oh, that guy. He's a good haulier guy. He can do it. When he gets on that board, it's like, Mitt is our skateboarder here in the office.

He's like Picasso. He just hit a pool two weeks ago, and it was therapeutic there for a bit. It was. And then it became a hospital, right? Broke an ankle four different spots. He sprained an ankle. It wasn't.

Fractured his ankle four times Honestly he must have fell off the thing Like into the Was he really skating in a pool? He thought there was water in it Skate park I'm going swimming So he's a legit skateboarder though

Well Barely I've never seen the outcome like positive I've seen the photo And what he was sitting on top of Which appeared to be something out of Tony's Pro skater video game. So I thought, oh, guy must be good to be able to sit in front of that. Then next day I see him at stadium where he had to walk at least two, three miles to get to where we were. Full sweat, crutches, walking boot. Spray my ankle. When? When? I thought it was

therapeutic. One last run. Yeah, one last run. And then two nine-year-olds come in with a wheelchair for him because he decided it wasn't smart to walk two miles back or whatever,

which it wasn't. He said, oh, I got a doctor appointment tomorrow. Four fractures in his ankle. You should not be walking around

on your foot, right? Probably should have that thing at least elevated a little bit. Mitt's got it figured out. That's the life of the skater. You've tough exactly it's gonna be tough as a skater right it's gonna be dumb you gotta be tough gotta break some bones tony's broken some bones let's go through some news stories odell beckham jr has responded to responding about playing with

aaron rogers we asked aaron yesterday about what odell beckham jr put on the internet about him you know looking making things look effortless and playing with him would be a cheat code. And then Aaron Rodgers basically said, I've been friends with Odell for a long time. We haven't done plants together, which could be a lot of different plants, but we would enjoy doing it. And he assumes that he'll have a lot of options. And it's also something he would love to see happen with the Green Bay Packers. More or less, He said that in an entire answer. Odell Beckham Jr. saw that answer and then gave a series of emojis. I believe it was fish pump in the middle, fish pump to the sides.

Is that ears or hands? It's hands, yeah. Oh, it's open. It's catching. Okay, and then is this a hell yeah hell yeah i think that's like when you do the clock for catching drills oh so that's him catching balls oh so he's catching balls okay so if that is catching balls which i think we could he said it would be sweet to fist bump aaron aaron sends one back i read the playbook all of of a sudden, I'm wide open. Give me the goddamn ball. Touchdown.

Everybody's clapping. There we go. Wow. So Odell Beckham Jr. literally just said, this is how it'll go. Yeah, see you in Green Bay. All right. Go, Pat, go. Book it.

Hell yeah. I heard Swagu, I believe it was Swagu, Marcus Spears. He was on our 4TV down here yesterday. I just so happen to be happening upon that area of the office. And they were talking about Aaron Rodgers, talking about Odo Beckham Jr. And Marcus Spears said that the Packers become the Super Bowl favorite out of the NFC if they get Odo Beckham Jr.

Do you believe that, Darius Butler? Right now, on the spot, we certainly should have prepared you for this question. Sorry about it. I'm going to stick with my Eagles. I'm going to stick with my Eagles pick. How they're playing, the continuity they already have. But, I mean, that would be a hell of a runner-up, I guess.

Isn't it difficult to say the favorite? Because, like, as soon as you say the Eagles, we just talked to Sirianni. I don't think they're going to lose another game. But I do believe the proper and whatcus was potentially meaning was could definitely win a super bowl you get odo beckham jr like it becomes much more likely you get odo beckham jr do you believe that aj and is that why aaron's like unless me and that guy have been friends a long time it'd be great to have him on our team i feel like he's gonna have a lot of options but it would be great to have him in green bay do you agree with that and after how he played last year

i guess how could you not think that way I mean I think it's possible Green Bay can win it all without Odell but I think when if Odell is there he goes there for like a late season push he absolutely can give them like the firepower they need we know with injuries and everything and the way they're able to run the ball right now if they can continue that consistently you throw Odell into the mix. Come on now. Good luck. If Odell can sign a couple million dollar deals every year with incentives, if he dominates, to join a team around November, December, and this becomes the Odell sweepstakes. Now, Odell continues, has to continue to play very well.

Yeah, of course. If he falls off at all, everybody will kill him for it. Oh, who cares? We're not doing this whole thing and odell doesn't care and not that odell will fall off i'm saying if odell plays like he played last year and he signs a one-year deal with a team for whatever week 12 on and they go on a run and he puts up stats and he has an incentive-based contract to make even more money if if this becomes a thing in the NFL, I'm fucking here for it, and I'm incredibly happy for Odell Beckham Jr. Who knows because of the injury, but couldn't you see, like,

if he, let's say the Packers do sign him and he has a very similar end of the season like he did last year with the Rams, isn't there a chance someone gives him another massive contract? Yeah, I think so. Probably have some incentives in there just because of the injury. But if he comes back, like you guys said, and plays like he played last year, because you look late this season.

What makes him harder? What makes him harder to cover? He got everything. Everything. Speed, quickness, you know, side long arms, huge hands. So his catch radius is huge. You get a guy like Aaron Rodgers, as accurate as he is, that'll be damn near unstoppable.

Once again, if Odell comes back healthy. You watched a late film last year of the Rams. Like, that safety was actually leaning to Odell's side a lot of times. Even with Cooper Cupp on his triple crown type year, he was still controlling that middle of the field safety because of his speed. And obviously, we all saw the Super Bowl. He was well on his way to winning the MVP of that game. So, if this knee is constructed correctly this time, because of his speed. And obviously, we all saw the Super Bowl. He was well on his way to winning the MVP of that game.

So if this knee is constructed correctly this time, I can see a big deal for him, for sure. So Cooper Cup probably experiencing the lack of Odell Beckham Jr. as well in that offense. But there's some stats coming out that are pretty alarming, both around the Los Angeles Rams pass game. And we do this because of what Sirianni talked about. They just lost a game. This team's dead, okay? So that's kind of way the nfl operates a wow stat ari mirava pro football folk uh yep

focus oh come on what dude what come on it's a stat a wow stat at my sports update very well there's a wide receiver in the nfl has more receptions through four games and a starting quarterback has completions. Cooper Cup has 42 receptions. Justin Fields only has 34 completions. Bonkers to have that going in a week five of a season. Now, we do not have to bury Justin Fields. Everybody else is doing that. It appears as if he is not good at football right now.

Will he become good? Who knows? A lot of turnover. Will he be another story of, yeah if he had you know right which happens in the nfl and it's not cool or maybe he does just stink maybe i don't know i think the jury is still out on that particular situation but the cooper cup he's the only one being targeted he's the only one being targeted for that ramsay only one yeah whenever anything has to happen or any play has to be made mat Matthew Stafford is on one guy.

Now, I guess that they're – Skronek has like 16 targets or something like that, but on this season, Allen Robinson only has 18 targets, I think, or whatever. Allen Robinson was unbelievable for a very terrible fucking football team in Chicago. For whatever reason, though, McVay isn't doing what he did for OBJ, for Allen Robinson, which is like draw plays for this guy to get involved early and have success.

I wonder what that's all about. Diggs, are you correcting my stats? No, no, no. To add on to them, Cooper Cup has 54 targets, I believe. Devontae is next at 47, but Cooper has had 15, 14, 6, and 19 targets. Okay, so that's what we saw the other night against the Niners where he was only going to Cooper Cup. That was on a primetime national stage game,

so maybe that's influencing this conversation. But the lack of Allen Robinson, what's that all about, you think, AJ, over there? Why isn't McVay doing what he did with OBJ? Just a different feeling or a different player or what? I guess McVay is trying to learn him as a player what he does best, the routes that he likes to run. It takes time, I think, sometimes to learn your players and for the players to learn what the coaches want as well and the quarterback.

So that's – I would imagine they'll eventually get on pace and, like, you know, he'll get a lot more targets. But I don't know when that might be. D, but Allen Robinson's still a guy. Why didn't he get the ball? Sean McVay don't like him? He's still a guy, but he's not Odell. Odell is a guy you can put an X in.

Whatever, literally tell him to route at the line of scrimmage, hey, run a dig here, run a comeback. He's going to create that separation damn near every time. That's not the same with Allen Robinson. Allen Robinson, a very good receiver, but I wouldn't say on the same level as Odell. But you pay a guy $15 million a year, bring him in, what, $45 million, like you've got to find a way to get him involved,

even if it's putting him on the same side with Cooper Cup, putting him in stacks and letting him get open that way. But they've got to figure it out. It's odd for him to only have 18 targets going into week five. Like, that's crazy. One touchdown, I think. Yeah, just the Falcons. Yeah, it's a wild thing.

What were you going to say, Connor? Are they doing the Tyreek Hill treatment where they're putting their number one corner on Allen Robinson, then they're doubling Cooper Cup? Is that why maybe because he can't really get open as much? That was the thing. I was talking about his lack of targets, but then when he did get a couple of targets in the San Fran game, he was covered. He was locked up.

So you do have to create separation and build that trust with a quarterback. Obviously, Stafford only trusts one guy right now, and that's Cup. And then the next guy would be Higby. Those are guys that have kind of been there. So maybe you got to start showing up to the 6 a.m. breakfast, get more involved with the game plan. Politicking. Yeah, something's got to happen.

I don't want to say it's politicking because that puts a negative thing on it, but there is a little bit to networking and, like, you know, building up a little bit of a relationship. Not saying it's not happening, but for whatever reason, that has not gone how any of us would have expected going into the season. As you were giving your answer there, I don't know if you saw me, like, cover my face. There was some breaking news that was relayed through my ear.

Oh, shoot. Oh, no. Jonathan Taylor is out for this Thursday night night football matchup the colts ruled out running back jonathan taylor ankle for tomorrow night verse the broncos that's via tom pelissero the era philip lindsey call him up revenge game philip lindsey actually was interviewed and he said that he's ready and willing if and when he is called upon from Denver, played for the Broncos, obviously had a lot of success

there, then for whatever reason didn't get extended to not stay. Now he's in Indianapolis. He and Naheem Hines, let's go and feed and run the shit out of that. Now, if the offensive line continues to do what the offensive line has done, it doesn't fucking matter who you put back there. You can put Jonathan Taylor back there and you aren't going to get any yards.

I mean, it's just hopefully they're able to make some things happen, but we hope Jonathan Taylor gets incredibly healthy. He has not looked the same at all. I guess his ankle injury is very serious, but this Colts team as a whole, I mean, he's missing a game. First practice he's ever missed in his entire life was on Wednesday this past week, last week. First one ever. Jonathan Taylor's like, he's ever missed in his entire life was on Wednesday this past week last week first one ever Jonathan Taylor's like a he's my heart beating I'm playing football guy right now he's

missing a game that's not normal at all I'm not happy about it but Darius you obviously have ties to the Colts team uh you do and watch a lot of the Colts games why do they suck will you can you please tell me this offensive line is supposed to be fucking good. What happened? Honestly, Vince. They're not playing assignment football well. That's really what it comes down to. It's not like, you know, they're just devoid of talent.

It's just not doing the little things right. Like you said, as talented as this O-line is, they're missing simple things. And I'm not, you know, AQ Shippey. I don't know all the ins and outs of the O-line, but it's simple things. Free runners at the quarterback. And then Matt Ryan got to take care of the ball, too, whenQ Shippey. I don't know all the ins and outs of the O-line, but it's simple things, free runners at the quarterback. And then Matt Ryan got to take care of the ball, too, when he does get it.

Nine fumbles. Yeah, that's way too many fumbles. Thanks. Did a good job in that second half, especially throwing the ball. I don't want to get hazed. I take it. I don't want to take it. He's playing indoors, too.

It's not like it's fucking raining. Yeah, he got a hold on to that center. He wasn't indoors. What? I think Woods involved, too. Big man Woods. Naheem Hines. Obviously, now you would expect he's going to get more touches to that Taylor. He wasn't indoors. He was involved, too. Big man Woods. Naheem Hines. Obviously, now you would expect

he's going to be more touches with Jonathan Taylor out. Isn't Glowinski gone? Costanzo's gone? It's not the same old line. No, not at all. And I guess the right guard position is potentially a revolving door,

both metaphorically and actually on Sundays. Is Ryan Kelly still there? Yeah, Ryan Kelly's the center. He is. They have their best lineman just for some reason. Can't fucking block anybody. What's that all about?

I don't know. Why do you think that is? Let's dive a little deeper. Do you think they are potentially at their wits end with having a new quarterback every fucking year? Like I wonder if that is. Wouldn't you? Do you think it's a little difficult to change the terminology and how somebody wants to do something every single year,

especially if you're at the offensive line position? It's like, hey, we've got to change every single year how we do things. I guess some people could frame it as a challenge. It is. It is, though. They're getting used to different cadency each year from different quarterbacks. They don't know, like, each quarterback drops and how they move around the

pocket. They, they all move a little differently. So you have to also learn where he likes to set up, like what he doesn't like as a quarterback and the old quarterback may have liked what you used to do. And this guy's like, no, you, I need you to, you know, set a little tighter or whatever it may be. So yeah, that's, that's part of it, but better figure it out quick. Yes, I think so too. But for a team that's as mature and as paid

as it is there's no continuity it feels like in the very important pieces of it and i think we kind of you know amidst all of our carson wentz is yeah carson wentz is doing what carson wentz does chatter we didn't even really talk about the whole, like, just subbing out, you know, quarterbacks. We thought Carson not being a quarterback was good because I can't, in my heart, can't take another fucking year of watching Carson Wentz be in charge of the program. Can't do it. Love Carson as a person. I think he has incredible football abilities at times, but the way he takes care of said football program that is worth billions and billions of dollars with a lot of fans and everything like that

is reckless in my eyes, I think personally. Can he change? Maybe. Everybody says no. And it appears as if that is still the case now, but that's neither here nor there. He's going to play good football. So get us another guy.

Hey, let's get us another guy. Hey, we get a good quarterback, we're going to be good. This is just like what the Eagles had, by the way. If Jalen Hurts plays well, they're going to be a good team. The Colts, the natural thought was, we get a quarterback, we're going to be a good team. Matt Ryan, chip on his shoulder. This team wanted Deshaun Watson.

This guy wanted to get me the fuck out of here. I'm going to do my thing. And then instead, now we've got a completely disjointed team team. It seems like nobody appears to be on the same fucking page. Nobody can do their job. Well, Matt Ryan's fumbling about nine times, not completing a lot of fucking passes either. Doesn't look like he's a Navy SEAL or an astronaut on a field. And it's like, what is the deal? Oh, we have zero continuity. It seems like year in a year out. And how will this end up working? We have no idea. Well, yeah, some injuries as well. Obviously, your middle backer, one of the best to do it, has been banged up.

And now he's out this week too, right? Yes. Broken nose, good question. Yeah, they didn't report on the nose. They only reported on the concussion. We were right there. I mean, it happened right in front of us. The first thing we saw was just blood hitting the field that

the Marvel... Oh, Marvel curse. No, I'm saying Spider-Man had to go out there in his little spandex and stomp it all. Stomp it all the blood out there. Did they go out there when he was hurt with the trainer? Some of the Marvel people?

Well, they should have maybe. Now that we think, you give us a little rinky-dink knock-off fucking Iron Man, maybe he'll be able to put it on his face. And then what we're talking about? I can't believe they rolled out those fucking... Yeah, that's a joke. Can't have it. I cannot believe they rolled that out.

Is there any pictures of this? Any pictures of him? Somewhere. I think you might be a little too hard on these characters. I gotta see. I'll wage you. I gotta see you. Go to Colts.com. They're probably on there. Okay, well, if... That's a tough job. Google Walmart Halloween costume.

What's a tough job? Yes, exactly. What's a tough job? What's a tough job? Being a Marvel character trying to get the crowd juiced. That's very difficult. Yeah, you're supposed to do it

at Times Square, these fucking people. These people... They're not... Yeah, kids' birthdays. You're not supposed to do it at Lucas Oil Stadium in an NFL fucking game.

No way. He was a vision rival. So it's not their fault. You're right. This is just like when we see somebody in a television booth that is terrible at speaking. It's not their fault. Somebody put him there.

Nobody should have been putting these fucking Aldi brand Marvel characters in the middle of the $110 billion meteorites NFL game. Like, that should not have happened. Shouldn't have happened. With that being said, I do believe Captain America dropped his little shield thing in the blood that they were slaying.

Oh, geez. Well, yeah, he was trying to run so fast, trying to save the fucking world, and that thing maybe just fell in there. But nonetheless, the nose is going to be a problem on the way out. What do they do with broken noses? Because in basketball, they put the mask on. In football, what do you do?

You shove the paper up your nose like J.J. Watt and you get back in the fucking game. What? Put a visor on. Wearing a helmet. No, but I'm saying like. They said his swelling still needs to go down before they can figure out how bad it really is too,

I think, in his nose. That's what they said because it was a bat. I read something like that. Yeah, they're waiting for the swelling to go down. His helmet was dented. Yeah, I think. Damn. Yeah, it was. Was the helmet coming down and hitting him? Yeah, I think helmet like that. The swelling. Yeah, they're waiting for the swelling to go down. The helmet was dented. Yeah, I think. Damn. Yeah, it was.

I think helmet. Was the helmet coming down and hitting him? Yeah, I think helmet into nose. But it was bad. The amount of blood that was. Yeah, if you can see it, I feel like it's pretty startling. Saw Kyle. Saw the picture with Kyle on there.

Holding it. Holding it, yeah. Yeah, I found that interesting. The Kyle was holding it. But I guess it was probably so many that there was probably no time to transition to Darius holding it, but I guess it was probably so many that there was probably no time to transition to Darius holding it, if I had to guess. Because it was like the blood was coming out of it

almost to the side. It was bad, bad. I guess the concussion should have been a natural thought, but my first, whoa, that guy just broke his fucking nose. Real bad. Plus the concussion. Hope he gets healthy. And once again, I'd like to let Shaq know,

we need you, bud. We need you bud i need you shack we need you buddy all right godspeed out there uh that leads to thinking of kyle and shack who's going to cover their nose i saw a lot of guys squirting their own water in their mouths yes did you see that too yeah yeah, I've seen it more and more I feel like. Me too. Maybe some trainers are being like, maybe some trainers are not even given the option. They just hand you the water and the guy has their mouth open and you just put it in their hand. Darius, how do you feel about that?

How do you feel about spraying the bottle into your own mouth as opposed to somebody else spraying it into your mouth? I was usually a do it yourself-yourself kind of guy, but sometimes when you're gassed or maybe you come out, get a quick break, you know, hit me real quick. A little tag team. Yeah, a little splow.

You can trust their flow, like their squeeze, how hard they squeeze. Oh, yeah, best in the business. They're great tone. Yeah, you're right, AJ. I think they are ready for that moment, but I think AJ has really taken a stance firmly. Okay. And I concur just from watching, but I've never –

It's been a while. It's been a while since we even have referenced this, though. But I saw it this weekend. I saw a lot of, hey, give me my own bottles from guys. Some good habits going on out there. I like it. There is some good habits going on. Because that didn't appear to happen in the past, like, past few years.

And maybe it was COVID. Yeah, I'm sure COVID And maybe it was COVID? Yeah, I'm sure COVID probably, I was just thinking that COVID probably changed everything. Everyone had their own bottle, right? Yeah. Yeah. With their own name on it, you couldn't use anybody else's bottle. 53 bottles.

So guys got used to using their own. That's right. Thank you. No. Well, silver lining. I'm not saying it. Well, me either. Something kind of good. Yeah, I don't think, yeah.

Now, if what happened. It's on the one- saying it. Me either. Something kind of good. Yeah, I don't think. Yeah. Fuck him. Now, if what happened. It's on the one-niner, right? Yeah, fuck one-niner. If what happened would have happened with Shaq Leonard during COVID and they got blood on the field, the NFL would have shut down for like six to seven weeks. Oh, and then the Titans would have owed Jim Irsay like probably 40 million or whatever, 30 million. Jim would have made the city pay for it.

If you remember correctly, the Titans started the whole thing. They were the first team to like just not care about anything. It was a mass breakout. Oh, yeah. I remember you, the Steelers fan who had to be on the other end of that thing, said, these guys don't care. And then every other team got it, which we thought immediately. Because of the Titans.

But there was never any field-to-field contact that happened. Yeah, outdoors. Thank you, Dr. Allen Stills. I believe outdoors stats are going to be pretty loud. Yeah, interesting to see. Are we ever going to see those? No. No.

Pandemic's over. Is it? The president said it. Not mine, but someone's. What's your problem? 60 Minutes. You're not from the United States of America? I'm on TV.

No, I'm from New England. It's different. What's your deal? Sorry? Bill Belichick's your brother. Revolution region. Yeah, exactly. Bill's my president.

And the good Lord himself. Hell yeah. Or herself. Or herself. Jesus Christ. Amen. Thank you. Nonetheless, though, you are here in reality.

Yeah. All those you're talking about are right here in the United States of America. God damn right. You got one president, which functionally makes no sense. Just fundamentally from the beginning does not make sense. I get it whenever there was four states or whatever it was, whenever we fucking decided to do that. But how the fuck, and this is just me outside looking in, AJ.

This is outside looking in. This is me outside looking in aj this is outside looking in this is me outside looking into the politics world 30 000 feet maybe even 42 got a bigger plane okay 42 000 a little bit higher okay we're gonna miss hurricane in because we're going up over that something maybe even higher depending on maybe 50 000 depending on what we're doing let's zoom out a little bit how in the world is somebody who grew up in southern california let alone all the different subsets of southern california malibu versus compton right versus long verse like let alone the individual subsets but let's just say

as a whole the people that live there which is an ignorant conversation to have because within Southern California, there is seven countries, whatever it is in different things. How are they supposed to feel the exact same way as somebody who grew up in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, or in Ohio, or even fucking Miami, which is a completely different world. I understand warm weather, completely different world than that whole thing. So the fact that it is set up to fundamentally fail, you know, like, hey, people are going to be mad because there's no way everybody sees the world the same way

because people very rarely live the same life. They shouldn't. People shouldn't all see the world the same way. Exactly. So the whole thought of how it works, I don't know how this was the decision, but the fact that it still is and it's still just like gonna go on forever means that forever everybody's gonna be upset about who's running whatever bingo yeah it makes no sense

that's probably never gonna get figured out no so it's kind of just like uh man well what are you gonna do we're just along for the ride yeah pretty much till the aliens come we all got about we got to put our differences aside and we fucking bound together. Yeah. More legs keep drying up. Or the AI and robots kill us. That is either. Speaking of, we need one common enemy. We need a name for this robot.

Now, RealPython. An Italian-American treasure. Yeah, absolutely. I love it. He's a TED Talk giver, a podcast hoster, a general manager in the NFL, a coaching consultant in the NFL, a mentor, an author, a stallion. Ladies and gentlemen, Michael Lombardi. Yeah!

I appreciate it. Maybe we should have had this meeting in Appalachia like they did when they ran them all out of there, all those hockey guys left, you know? We could go to Appalachia and do it why not right well I saw the whole crew this weekend I saw Matty Patricia with the big pies on his flag right on his chest do you know if Bill Belichick it seemed like the Patriots had more staff members on the sideline with flags I wasn't paying attention I did notice with the Patriots so I might be wrong there but I assume Belichick utilizes that as some sort of motivator and unifier for the squad, you think? Yeah, I think, you know, he had the Croatian flag on.

I saw Bears had his Armenian one. So yeah, I think part of developing a culture is understanding your history. And when he goes back to Green Bay, I mean, he was just loving the fact that he went back to Green Bay. Last time, you know, you stay there, you stay in Appleton, and that Lombardi Steakhouse has some incredible memorabilia in it that is remarkable. And when you can go onto a field, AJ, you can appreciate this, but you can walk onto a field, even though the stadium's different, and stand at the spot that Starr sneaked the ball in on third down with 13 seconds left to go. Could you imagine if he wouldn't have got the first down pat? Oh, my God.

Marty would have never been in the Hall of Fame. But anyway, so, you know, I mean, you could stand on that spot and just feel the history of that place. It's magnificent, and that means a lot to Belichick. Well, I think Aaron's happy he got the win in that game, and I guess we can start there. What are you seeing out of the Patriots? Obviously, you used to be a coaching consultant up there I believe you did some advising roles your son

coached up there he's now with the Raiders but what are you seeing with your deep ties to the New England Patriots from that team and what do you think the rest of the season looks like because I'll say uh Camballo here uh Cambolini he is almost like we're dead now type Is that the thought you think for the new England Patriots this season? Or do you think he'll figure it out? No, I actually thought they really, they've improved. Look,

the first three games that they did something on patriotic, like is they turned the, you know, the, one of the things that you know, when you work there is we are going to avoid losing before we can win. Now that sounds really simple, right?

But when you turn the ball over, like Mac was turning the ball over and I want to, don't want to hear about this, well, it's 50-50 balls. No, Aaron Rodgers throws 50-50 balls. The other team doesn't catch them. So, like, even though Rodgers, even though Mack was averaging 8-1 per attempt, you got to be smarter with the football. And they're giving games away, fumbles, turnovers like that. And once they stop doing that, like they did against Pittsburgh with only one, and they did in Green Bay, they had a chance to win that game. They'll win their share of games. Are they an elite team? No, I don't think so. You know, the quarterbacking situation is unsettled, but they've got two elite running backs. The offensive line is starting to

play better. And I think their defense, which has played well all year, really, when you look at it, they've given up a lot of yards. They haven't given up you look at it. They've given up a lot of yards. They haven't given up a lot of yards. They've given up points because the offense has put them in a bad spot. I thought they called the game. I think this is really important. I thought they called the game like a team that was trying to win the game, not like an offensive coach trying to gain yards.

I thought they managed the game the best they had all year. Mike, what do you think about the whole offensive play call situation? We made a huge deal out of it in the offseason during camp. Who's going to call the plays offensively? It looks like Patricia may be calling them in through the headset. Do you think that's how it's going to stay

and how do you think it's gone so far? A run in the zone. I think they're going to continue to do that. You know, I think the play call is a little bit over. Because, look, they're looking at sheets. Okay, on second and sixth, we've got these five plays. On third and ninth, we run them on this.

I think a lot of it is in-game. Like, what adjustments do we need to make? And in that game particularly, once Hoyer went out after the first drive, you know, I'm sure Belichick told Matty P, look, Matty, here's what we want to do. Get get 10 runs that we like and get five or six passes that we like. And let's make sure he knows what he's doing on those plays and kind of condense the game that way. But I think they'll continue to go that. And they've stopped running the outside zone to the level they were doing it this summer. They're more of a big physical push-you-back team.

I think they need to continue to do that and give the ball to the two best players, which are Stevenson and Damian Harris. I mean, they can run the football on anybody. Okay, let's move away from the New England Patriots. You host the show, multiple ones, the GM shuffle, the Lombardi line. Anything else that I'm missing there? No, that's all I do. That's not that's all I do. You know,

that's not, that's all. You also write for the daily coach, which is a newsletter. That's fantastic. That I still get every morning while I'm taking a grumpy, normally read the daily coach. It's a nice start to the day. You're one of the most busy people of all time.

What's pissing you off about this NFL season? What is the biggest storyline in your eyes? This NFL season that hasn't been talked about? Because whenever you get to ranting and noticing something, there's nothing better on this planet or in the NFL world. What is the one thing that's really got you pissed off, Lombardi, right now? Well, I just

think to me, you know, I just finished my latest book called Football Done Right. There we go! Thank you. That's a shameless plug, but in the book, I write about Howard Cosell and his influence on the NFL. And what drives me crazy is, is when you see something, you should say it. When we see bad quarterbacking, we need to say it. Right. And I think too many times we make excuses for what's going on on the football field. And sometimes it's not the quarterback, and sometimes it is. But I think when you watch this season, more than ever, is you're seeing a lot of bad quarterbacks in play. And I think it's affecting the line. For example, you know, Mack Jones gets hurt,

and the line goes from 5.5 up to 9.5 because Brian Hoyer's playing. Well, like, okay, Brian Hoyer might not be great, but Mack Jones wasn't playing any good anyway. That line should have never moved four points, right? Well, like, okay, Brian Hoyer might not be great, but Matt Jones wasn't playing any good anyway. That line should have never moved four points, right? And so I think we have to stop making excuses. Justin Fields, I mean, he's not completing any passes. I don't care how many you want to make about it, right?

And then when he does complete them, he's one of the lowest yards per attack. Kyler Murray, you're not having a very good year. Let's just be frank. And I think, to me, we have to educate the fans more about the game than we are doing that. We're just saying, oh, he's going to be okay. No, he's not. No, he's not. Watch the first half of the Carolina game.

They rushed him. He's not having a good year. They haven't scored a point in the first quarter, and you're telling me he's great. Come on. Please stop. If we see it, you've got to say it. Now you've got me started on that.

That's your fault. I know. That's exactly what I was expecting and hoping for. I thought you were going to bring the hammer down on one person. It turns out you got five or six. What do you think about Baker? Because you talked about Carolina. It seems like that situation is going nowhere.

I mean, Stephen A. did a, hey, give me my camera moment. Give me my camera. Yeah, talk to me. Yeah, I like Baker mayfield he said i think he's a good person he is playing god awful right now is what steven a said it sounds like he's supporting a baker but he said i have to point it out because baker needs to hear it and you just listed off a bunch of quarterbacks is baker also in that group and what do you think that means for rule i think he's going back to college is that what you think well here's the thing i think to

me the difference between college and pro football is this. In college, you can mask the quarterback and get away with it. In pro, if you don't have one, you're going to lose. They've got a good team in Carolina. That defense is good. They played as well as you could play. Baker's averaging 16 completions

per game. That's a high school game. Think about this. Last week, think about this. Last week, think about this last week. Marcus Mariota won a game. He had seven completions. The Giants and the Bears, two historic franchises, they combined for 20 completions. I mean, is this 1950?

Is Papa Bear on the sideline coaching the game? Like, we can't get a completion, right? We can't get – like, Baker can't get a completion. And God knows they're trying. Screen, flat. I mean, it's like Peyton Manning's going to be watching this saying, like, whatever happened to completed passes? Like, whatever happened?

Can't we get a few of them? And I think that's Baker. Baker's just not playing. Too many tip balls at the line of scrimmage. You know, not converting third downs. And for rule, you know, in college you can mask it. And the answer is this. If you don't get a quarterback your first year on the job in the NFL,

if you don't get a legitimate one, then you're going to have a hard time sustaining excellence. That sounds like – What about out in Denver? Nathaniel Hackett gets out there. Russell Wilson comes in. They give him a big old deal after they trade for him. Like what do you think –

Like everyone assumes that they'll be fine. Russell's going to look like Russell eventually. I know last game he had three touchdowns. But what do you think? Everyone assumes that they'll be fine. Russell's going to look like Russell eventually. I know last game he had three touchdowns, but what do you think they're doing? What's with all the... It just seems kind of disjointed. I've been saying this. Russell last year rushed for 183 yards, the lowest

of his career. He doesn't want to move anymore. Because he doesn't want to move, we don't let Russ cook plays. I've said this before. Russ is not cooking at the French Laundry, which is an elite restaurant in america he's cooking at the hackensack diner like he's a short order cook right now like he's not making plays with his feet he's really not i mean he's on in a rose royce two weeks ago i seen him get into rose royce you're saying he's at the hackensack diner what's this guy making grits and eggs is what you're saying?

You're over... I mean, look, just say you own the Broncos. You just gave him $240 million. Are you happy with it? I'm a Walton family member. I'm fucking okay. I mean, but here's the thing. He's got to make more plays with his feet. You know the most important position in football

today right now is the guy that can do the quarterback sneak. Jacoby Brissett can run a quarterback sneak. That makes him valuable as hell because Russell will do it 30 inches from the goal line. Not me. I'm not sneaking it. I'm not sneaking it in there. I'll get the shotgun and give it off.

I'm five yards away, so I've got to gain five to get one inch. Like, seriously, come on now. Stop. Look, you know, you guys look at the stats who's the best qbr last week in all of football based on esp and the worldwide leader gino daniel jones did anybody watch the game daniel jones was the best quarterback according to qbr like at some point we got to watch the games who didn't watch you say espn didn't watch or no well with those you just can't look at numbers is

what i'm saying you just can't say okay you know you can't do that i i don't know call me cranky call me that but that's what that's what got me on that you have buried eight people so far since we got started so i'm not gonna call you no i have not buried anybody i've not i've only given you the truth that's the thing nobody wants to say it like nobody wants to you the truth. That's the difference. I'm not as possible to follow the truth. Nobody wants to say it. Like, nobody wants to say the truth. You know, everybody hymns and hauls about it. Like, just, hey, look, if I was saying, I would tell Russell, Russell, man, you got to run.

You got to move your feet. You're too good of a player to not do that. Like, you got to move. Like, what's wrong with that conversation? I'm not saying he shouldn't play. I'm saying to improve his play. You know, I mean, we're all judged on all of it. And if the fans don't know it, it's not fair.

Well, we appreciate you enlightening all of us. Thank you, Lambeau. Thank you, Lambeau. What's good? What do you love? Anything you love? How about this? I love the Lou Holtz impersonations.

And if I can get Don Martindale together to tell the Lou Holtz story when he picks him up at the airport and he has to have the Wendy's in the car and the Diet Coke and he gets stopped by a Michigan police officer that story's golden I got to get that on the air okay at some point sounds like you're the only one that knows what that story is Wink Martindale was an assistant for Lou Holtz Wink Martindale he was the GA for Wink. He was the GA for Notre Dame. So he had to pick up Lou at the airport. And whenever anybody picked up Lou at the airport, they had to have a cooler full of Diet Coke

and Wendy's chicken sandwiches. That was what had to have happen. And then they were driving back. That's what they had to have happen. Back to South Bend. They're driving back to South Bend, and he gets pulled over by a state trooper because Lou did all the driving.

And so the state trooper pulls him over, and Lou tries to big-time the state trooper with I'm a Notre Dame football coach. The guy's a Michigan fan. So when Lou pulled away after he gave him a ticket, the cop yells, go blue. And Wayne's sitting shotgun with the Diet Coke. Wayne's sitting coke shotgun but not allowed to have a diet coke because they're from luke wink cooler fool wink still doing it by the way the giants obviously

have a winning record for the first time what it feels like forever they're going over to england to play in the first ever winning record versus winning record team game in england ever you like the giants i i think baltimore's feeling the effects of Wink being gone. I don't know what the fuck happened there, but him going to Giants with Dayball seemed to be quite a culture change almost. No doubt. And I think give Dayball credit. All he's

doing is what you have to do as a head coach is manage the game. I thought Mike Kafka called a great game last week. Mike Kafka wasn't trying to become a head coach. He was trying to win the game. And so he allowed the team to win. Barkley was sensational. And all they've done, they're not a good team. They're three and one, but they've managed the game correctly. They've given themselves a chance to win, which is the only thing that matters. And they call the game that way. I mean, Wink ran a double agap pressure from about the third play of the game and they couldn't block

it. Chicago, they never routed the protection the right way. They sacked them six times, you know, and no completions. I mean, other than the two throws down the field, they couldn't do anything. What is that, double barrel, AJ? Double barrel to? Yeah, some people would call it that. Double barrel. Well, what they did was they made the back pick up the blitzer,

and they brought another blitzer through the A-gap, and because they didn't slide the protection like a punt, slide all the way over there's a free runner at fields and the way to attack fields is not from edges is in his face with the ends if you keep the ends inside out he has nowhere to go yeah but wink always has his amoeba exotic type offenses you know young quarterbacks are always going to struggle with it i'm happy to see wink having success i got to hang out with him out at the Pro Bowl. Fucking love that dude. Sounds like Lou Holtz did too.

Darius, your question for Lombardi. Mike, you've obviously buried a ton of quarterbacks already, but you spoke about numbers and people watching the games and the people that watch every game and have all the numbers. PFF had a conversation with him this weekend. They said overall, even at the top of the league, the top quarterbacks, the numbers are down for quarterbacks for some reason early on in the season. What do you think that is?

The defense is catching up? Are we playing soft or zone, make them go long and hard? What's the reason for that? Well, I think a lot of it is the fact that some of these guys, they're getting a lot of new people they're working in. They didn't have preseason camp. And I think sometimes the games aren't getting managed. I think Mahomes is playing better than I don't know what his numbers compare to you know

pro football focus numbers I don't know I mean pro football focus has Nick Bosa's the 23rd best defensive end I want to find 22 better than Nick Bosa I'm going to start looking for that you know I mean so like okay I'll be out there. So, how you manage the quarterback. Like, you've got to be able to have some sense of balance. And all these kind of liberties were taken, put the quarterbacks in a lot of bad positions. And, frankly, we're just not getting to play. I mean, up until last week, I thought Lamar played really well. I thought Josh Allen.

I mean, Jalen Hurts is a great example, right? They're running Oklahoma's offense. The guy's going to have 250 carries. He's the sixth player in the game. He's the sixth weapon. You've got to account for him in everything. People talk about the RPO stuff. It's not really RPO when Pat Mahomes does it because Mahomes is never running with it. It's really play action. It's a long play action. But when Hurts does it, you've got to account for him.

And that becomes harder. And I think the more this game changes, I think you've got to have a quarterback that can do a lot of that stuff. Mike, are you surprised at all with the success that Jalen Hurts has had, at least early on this season, and how well he's thrown the ball down the field? And what are your thoughts on Sirianni? I think they've done a great job. I mean, look, I work for Jeffrey Lurie,

and Jeffrey Lurie wants to throw the ball 100 times a game. He wants to win passing. And I give him credit because they changed their team. And I give Sirianni credit. When they were not played very good last year, you know, they changed and they started running Oklahoma's offense. And that's what they're running. And what you saw last week was you saw Philadelphia knew that the Jacksonville Jaguars were going to try to set

their defense in the run game outside in, right? Take away the quarterback, take away the outside zone. And Miles Sanders had a few days running inside. That's what Tampa did against them in two games last year. But Tampa had Vita Vey and they had Sue inside. Jacksonville didn't have that. So they were able to run the ball. And the fact that they're calling runs continually, I think they've done good. The biggest change to me in Philly this year besides Hertz's ability has been the way they call defenses Jonathan Gannon is blitzing more running zone dogs he's not playing soft cover too and they're getting after quarterbacks last year they played six elite quarterbacks the ball was only on the ground 36 times this year they're

playing much better in that phase. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Lombardi, I'm curious to hear what you think about the Lamar situation. Do you think Baltimore's kind of screwed that up to the point where it's too late for him to come back? And how do you see how he's playing this year? Because it seems as though nobody can do what he does. Nobody can do what he does. I wish they would put him under center more

and run more boots and play actions with him. I really do. Like the last call of the game, I didn't agree with Coach Harbaugh going for it on fourth down. I would have kicked the points and taken my chances, but he did. But I certainly wouldn't have run a drop back pass game. I would have tried to put him on the edge and use his feet and athleticism. But I think Lamar is, you know, look, where is he going to go? They're going to franchise, right?

I mean, we're talking about how bad some of these quarterbacks are playing this year. You can't let one that's playing good go away. So they're going to have to get something done. And as much as they may not want to guarantee all this money, they may have to. I mean, look, the kid I think is sensational. I ask you guys this question. How does Lamar sit in the green room for 32 picks in his draft and Trey Lance goes third? When you watch both those guys play college football, it wasn't close.

Lamar is really a talented player. I think he would be better in Kyle Shanahan's scheme, under center, boots and nakeds, more than he is in just this RPO stuff. Could you imagine him in fucking San Francisco? And I know Baltimore has the franchise tag, and Lamar is set to make like $115 million, $111 million guaranteed right now if the salary cap doesn't move, which it probably will because Apple is about to get in the game in a big way after this Amazon success.

And that's just the forethought of what the salary cap will be. But if he gets franchise tagged twice, he's on pace to make like $115 or $111, $120, depending upon whose math you do, guaranteed. So they're going to have to offer him a pretty good amount afterwards because in his head, that's what he thinks he's already getting now have to remain healthy which he's been able to do aside from last season and the covet season's its own thing but he's a fucking guy why wouldn't they just lock him down lambo and just get the drama over with and move on and say hey we are our guy we love you we are doing this like that just feels like a

mentality thing that they might regret later on down the road, I think. Yeah, I don't know why they just don't jump in all the way and do what Philly's done and design the offense more for him. I really don't. I think they're trying to, but to me, what concerns you about Baltimore, if you're a Raven fan, is every time you play against a good coordinator, like Leslie Frazier and Sean McDermott, or you go in the playoffs with Mike Grable, they stop your offense.

And that's got to worry you a little bit. Here's what I would say about paying Lamar. I think in life, in my career, you could never overpay a great player. You could never overpay a great player. The problem you get into is when you pay a good player great money. That's the problem. You could never overpay a great player.

You know, because the market will... You couldn't overpay Josh Allen. The market's going to continue to go. Mahomes, you can't overpay a great player, you know, because the market will, you couldn't overpay Josh Allen. It's the market's going to continue to go Mahomes. You can't overpay him. So to me, that's what I would do. I think he's a great player. They may not think that. I think their system limits Lamar more than Lamar limits their system.

Everything that's been worth a single fuck in my life, people have told me I've overpaid. Jerry Jones, actual quote i don't know if he said worth a fuck but basically said everything that i've ever done that has ended up being awesome and very beneficial for me and my business at the time people have told me i've either overpaid or been bamboozled and then in the end i haven't been my stadium is still as clean as it was day one it is still the standard and everybody's still in it, and I own it 100% because I fucking built the thing. I mean, it's just there's some good business.

There's some bad business. Feels like the way the Baltimore's handling this, knowing that Lamar's representing himself and hearing everything that's going on, just seems to be bad business. What do I know, though? I've never been a general manager, and maybe they'll both figure it out. We hope that is the case. Just like our friend, your friend, we're fans of Tom and Giselle.

We hope they figure it out, too. We hope everybody figures it out and moves on. Ty, your question for Coach Lombardi. Michael, do you think there's any cause for concern with the Packers? They're winning, obviously, but the offense is obviously going to take some time to get there with them being so reliant on all these rookies. And then the defense was supposed to be so good coming into the year. And they've been opportunistic and kind of bowed up when they needed to, but they haven't looked great.

Like with Rodgers, is this still a team that's going to be there in the end? Or do you think there is some cause for concern if you're a Packers fan? You know, I mean, they got the best. He's still great. I mean, the throw he makes, the dobs he drops in You know, I mean, they got the best. He's still great. I mean, the throw he makes, the dobs he drops in the end. I mean, it's just remarkable, you know, and he's hard to fool. And as the longer the game goes, it becomes more difficult to play against them. And they get that line going with the two backs that they have.

You know, they should be able to get better offensively. There's no doubt. Defensively, I'm surprised. I thought they would be better, especially against the run. I mean, New England had a chance to win that game. They got first and 10 at the 49, you know, and they ran three plays and they had to punt it back to them. If they get one first down there, they win the game. And Green Bay can't go like that. They're better than that in terms of their talent level to play a close game on their own turf. So I expect it to get better. But look, I think Philly and San Francisco, I wrote this for VEASAN.

You can say all you want, September doesn't matter. But since 2018, only the Patriots at 2-2 have gone to the Super Bowl. I mean, I think San Francisco's defense is elite. It's Raven-ish in 2000. It's Tampa Bay in 2002. And it's the Legion of Doom in 2012. It's that kind of defense. And them in Philadelphia, I think, are going to be a great war.

I really do. I think that's where Green Bay's got to work, because they're going to give, those great defenses are going to give great quarterbacks trouble. I think Legion of Boom. Boom. Not Legion of Doom. Sounds cool, though. Legion of Doom, this year's Niners. WWE, I think, Legion of Doom. I do believe. Legion of Boom, they're a fucking hell of a football team. WWE, I think. Yeah, that's right.

I do believe. Legion and Boom, they're a fucking hell of a football team. Oh, yeah. Hard front to block. And when you look at it, you couldn't block them. You got Earl back there. He was like Ed Reed. He made plays on the ball.

Their corners, they played 90% zone, but they were so good. If Kane Man wants the route and you couldn't throw the ball over their head sherman was another sherman played receiver at stanford for a little while that's how good he was you know and so you can't throw the ball over his head he catches everything well and also they were all on the same page and all very heady football players oh yeah that's like the perfect concoction i think for a defense to do their thing michael lombardi right now, Paisano Wednesday, October 5th,

2022. Who's won the Superbowl. You know, I think it's, I'm going to go defense at San Francisco. I think that Jimmy G, as long as he stays, as long as he doesn't turn this ball over and they know who they are,

they get losing, you know, they've lost two left tackles now. So, you know, that's always problematic. They get Trent Williams back, know, they've lost two left tackles now. So, you know, that's always problematic. They get Trent Williams back. But I'll tell you, Jamika Ryans has done a tremendous job of changing what they do defensively.

You know, he took over for Salah and he improved the defense significantly, right? They're just not an over-front playing three. They're not playing the Pete Carroll scheme. So I think they're – I learned this in my life. Defense, I've been fooled twice. In 2000 by the Ravens when I was at the Raiders and 2002 by the Tampa Bay Bucs at the Raiders. Defense that are that fast and tackle that good,

I don't care how good you are on offense, they're hard to beat. Yeah, that's who you normally got to zone in on during the playoffs. Who has a Super Bowl championship defense? That's literally – everybody that makes the playoffs is normally going to have a pretty good offense. Normally going to be able to on during the playoffs. Who has a Super Bowl championship defense? That's literally everybody that makes the playoffs normally going to have a pretty good offense. Okay, normally going to be able to play the ball. Who has the Super Bowl defense? And later in the season, we'll start predicting that.

Remember, we had the Saints a couple years back. We're like, hey, this defense, the Saints defense, looks like they're ready to go in a Super Bowl. Then they have a couple injuries. Tom beats them, and they move on. It's one of those things that don't get talked about all season until it matters and i appreciate the fact you're old school we appreciate you paisano all right guys thank you have a great day guys appreciate you hey you too thank you hey how's the family everybody's great you know we got a win in carolina we'd be better and we

got we got a win at the raiders we celebrated that that was nice so he got his first win as a raider that's good's good. Life goes on. For me, Sundays are like a Billy Joel song. It's either sadness or euphoria. Either we win one or lose one. It's hard. Never easy. Out at the Raiders, Josh McDaniels going to get that figured out? What is it, you think?

Look, I think they're getting better. I think that they're 1-3, but if you watch the games, they could have easily won a couple of those. They've given away last week i thought they finally on that last drive of the game they kind of came together as a team devante adams made a great third a second and third second and 14 play called an in route kind of was thrown behind them great adjustment got the first down won that game denver's defense now it's good you know they scored 32 points against the good denver defense now gregory's out 32 points against a good Denver defense. Now Gregory's out.

That makes a big difference. Follow-up real quick, and this is not saying you have inside information, although you do know basically everybody there and have talked to him. Did he just not want to play Josh Jacobs, or what the fuck happened, do you think, with Josh McDaniels and Josh Jacobs? Because he was playing in a Hall of Fame game. Remember, this is a big conversation. Why is Josh Jacobs playing in a Hall of Fame game?

I think Josh Jacobs has really shown them how much he loves football. I think in the offseason, he didn't love football like a lot of guys. You know, we wear and tear these guys in the offseason. And sometimes as coaches, we pretend that the offseason is the Super Bowl. You know, how many guys have been all great players? And, you know, and now all of a sudden, he like now he loves football. And if you love football and you're coaching a guy that loves football who's talented you're going to gravitate towards him 175 yards or something like that a couple times i mean great runs yeah absolutely ladies

and gentlemen great run just like you've been on a few hey a couple great runs out of you ladies and gentlemen michael lombardi i feel like we got smarter we We got better. I feel like today has been quite a day. We had Paisano Wednesday with Sirianni. Thank you, Sirianni. Thank you, Sirianni. Thank you to Lombardi for stopping by in the middle of his incredibly busy schedule for his age, for any age. Yeah. Actually, what he does.

I hope he's enjoying the hell out of his life. Thank you to AJ. Thank you to DB for everything DB. Hammer. Don. He's about 10 minutes or so at YouTube.com forward slash hammer. Don. The Talks at Table.

Fantastic job. Everybody in the back. Evan Foxy. Zito. And Nick. Thank you. To the new robot. Jabba.

Lorda. Great work today. We will see you tomorrow. Goodbye.