The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 759 - Everything DB With Darius Butler LIVE From The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: October 12, 2022

On today's show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about everything happening around the NFL as we prepare for tomorrow night's colossal clash on Thursday Night Football between the Commanders and Bears, plus they dive into all the interesting news stories floating around the league as we approach week 6 of the NFL season before Darius breaks down the best and worse DB plays of the week in this installment of Everything DB. Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people. It is winning Wednesday, October 12th, 2022. And this sports show starts right now. Football is here and it is a glorious Wednesday in the middle of the season. So that means we are just one day away from NFL week six beginning with a battle of the Titans. That's right. A clash of the colossal. Two teams that have proven that they are worthy of being watched by the entire globe in this international league that is the National Football League. The Commanders are getting a point.

As of yesterday, I don't know if that has changed at all. As we're speaking, I don't think it's changed. I could be wrong. It is still one point, and it is. Boom. The commanders. Coached by Ron Rivera, who is currently apologizing to his quarterback for having a bad day the other day when he was asked why his team was not able to be good,

and everybody else's team in the NFC East was able to be good after being years and years of terrible. Ron Rivera had a one-word answer. Wasn't asked for a one-word answer. Gave a one-word answer. Quarterback? Follow-up from the reporter. Led into a conversation with Ron Rivera chit-chatting about how the quarterback can be good in other games in which he struggled and felt like,

wow, this is pretty harsh for the head coach to say about the starting quarterback of your team that you're currently paying $30 million. Now, on that team, Taylor Heineke. On that team, other quarterbacks as well that Ron Rivera has maybe seen a little bit of happiness with in the past, and now he's experiencing the Carson Wentz experience, which can be incredible.

But it also can be very frustrating because you have no idea what the hell is going on and why that decision was made by the guy who's the most important player on the field. So can Carson. And Ron Rivera let bygones be bygones and move into a Thursday night in which they are the underdogs against the number 32-ranked Chicago Bears coming into this NFL season. Brand-new head coach, brand new operation, brand new culture.

Team is moving out of the stadium they're in within the next couple of years. What will the Bears be 10 years from now? Nobody knows, but they've been around for a long time. You hope it's been better. Yeah. But a lot of stats and analytics people and also football people have said, Monsters of the Midway have been little timid children of the Midway. That's right.

For a long time. Long time. For the Monster Thongs. little timid children of the Midway. That's right. For a long time. Long time now. The Monster Dongs. But they could be all the way back. And will tomorrow night prove to be the evening that Justin Fields and the Iberflues era ride into victory lane? Who gives a fuck, honestly? Yep.

Bingo. That game is going to be tough to watch. I think we all know that. But it is early enough in the season that there is a chance that these two teams at the end of the season, if they're able to figure it out, could be around for playoff conversation. We're only entering week six. There's still so much to be learned, still so much to be figured out. But right now we feel like we have a pretty good grasp on who's going to win the Super Bowl and who isn't. That's what today's conversation will be. One of the

teams that we don't think will be able to win because they just fired their head coach already, Jonathan Stewart, formerly of the Carolina Panthers, will join us to talk about the Carolina Panthers situation. And also a comment that one member of the Talks at Table, at Ty Schmidt, made just the other day. I've seen you two on the internet kind of having a little give and take Twitter thing. Yeah. Which I would like to let you know, as of today, I guess you have 30 minutes to edit

or five minutes to edit a tweet. Really? Whoa. Some people that pay Twitter to do something now can edit a tweet within like five minutes of sending a tweet out. Both Adam Schefter and Ari Mirov have showcased the ability to do as such. Okay. I'm sure that won't lead to more problems.

No, of course not. I would never do that. How could it? But on Twitter, you and Jonathan Stewart kind of had a little back and forth. What was it about? I forget what you said. Will you talk to him about today? Yeah, for sure.

We posted a clip of the show, and we were talking about the Panthers, and I just said, hey, it's not crazy to think that the Panthers might never be good again. Like, they may not get it figured out. Ever? Ever. Like, it's certainly possible. And he said, whoa, man, too harsh. Which I was like, hey, I didn't say it's a certainty,

but also they've only been to the playoffs once since they went to the Super Bowl. They have the second richest owner in the sport, and they're starting a rebuild after already having to do a rebuild. It's very hard to win in the NFL. Is it that crazy to think that the Panthers may never be good again? I don't think it is. Well, and he responded, said it was too harsh. I responded and said, hey, why don't you come on the show tomorrow?

Let's talk about it. There we go. And that was supposed to be yesterday. Tomorrow was supposed to be yesterday. But I completely forgot in a moment of sending the tweet of, hey, why don't you come on the show tomorrow? Let's talk about it. Yeah, here we go. And that was supposed to be yesterday. Tomorrow was supposed to be yesterday. But I completely forgot in a moment of sending the tweet of, yes, this is awesome. Yeah. You know, because I was excited. I'm a fan of Jonathan Stewart.

I remember how great Jonathan Stewart was. He was an incredible guy. He was. For the Carolina Panthers. I was like, this is awesome. This is perfect. Let's have the convo. We were completely booked.

We had four guests yesterday. What are we going to do? Completely forgot about that. Very thankful and lucky for everybody that stopped by. So I asked Jonathan if he would push to today. He said, no problem. He's on in 23 minutes. Can't wait to talk to him. Can't wait to obviously watch, you know, everything

DB with Travis J. Butler. DB, how you doing, man? You've been crushing it. You've been on the road this football season, dude. You've been here. You're over in Philly. This week, you're coming back here. Then you're going back to South Florida. Then you're on the road again for like 17 weeks. How you feeling, pal? You're crushing it all.

We are very, hey, you're killing it. It's been fun. Had a lot of down time, a lot of off time at home. So obviously football season's been busy. It's been fun, though. I'm enjoying it. The season has been pretty good, I think. Yeah. Primetime games are a little bit of a bore there for a bit.

So, you know, conversation nationally maybe wasn't something every single morning. It was with Tua's thing. That's right. Absolutely. Yeah, good morning. America was talking about it. Greeny brought this up. He was practicing today, too.

Yeah, he's back throwing on his side. Not with the team yet. Thrown on his side. This is part of the protocol progression from him bouncing back from the concussion that he received on Thursday night. Have no word on Sunday being a concussion or not. That investigation's ongoing, even though they fired the UNC, which, what

does that mean? I don't know. He was very disrespectful. Remember? Yeah, but, yeah, I understand. It wasn't because the UN, what does UNC, because isn't it the independent something? Yeah. Neurology consultant. Unassociated neurologist. What is the... That's Unk.

That makes sense. Okay, it's Unky. Yeah. It's Unk. He fired Unk because Unk wasn't appreciating the nephews. He was only talking to his brothers and sisters. That's right. Angry Unk.

Because whenever the NFLPA was asking him about the process, he was kind of shooing the NFLPA off. Hey, listen. I did everything right. I'm a fucking, I'm actually a brain doctor. I'm Big Unk. So, you know, the thing that we're using right now to talk? I fucking fixed this.

I know everything about it. So, questions? Stupid. And the NFLPA, who had the prerogative, I guess, since the CBA was written, they just fucking kicked his, all right, hey, sounds good, pal. The fuck out of here. Son of a bitch. No longer Un kicked his. All right. Hey, sounds good, pal. The fuck out of here. Son of a bitch. No longer on anymore.

You're out of the goddamn family, pal. And now everybody thought, oh, that must have meant that he broke protocol. Then they were very loud saying no, it's just because he was disrespectful. So we still have no answer on the concussion on Tua from Sunday against the Bills, I believe it was. Then the Thursday one against the Bengals is the one that really made national news. And Greeny brought this up. So Greeny brought it up this morning on Get Up, which we, hey, we watch

Get Up every day. Every single morning with sound. At Boston Corner, the talks table. How good's it been to see Greeny back in the chair? It's been incredible because he did take those three-month vacations and it was a bummer because it wasn't the same show without Greeny. No, it wasn't the same sports media world without Greeny. No.

I let Greeny know that. Can't watch it without Greeny, I'll say it. And even sometimes. I love Greeny that much. Yeah, I love Greeny as well. I think Greeny's very good. Gotta get his golf in there. We still watch it.

Not just golf. If he's been doing this for 30 years, by the way. Yeah. I meant nothing. No negative shit talk was being had there. That was me telling Greeny, like, hey, we're fucking out here, okay, battling. We need you back. Need you back.

Need you back. And a lot of people that were like, oh, Greeny's not working anymore. Greeny's not working. He's worked a long fucking time. Him and Golik doing that early stuff, that's a long time. That's a lot of off seasons. A lot of off seasons. That's a lot of off-seasons. A lot of off-seasons. That's a lot of off-seasons. Now, for them, it's not an off-season because baseball

and everything like that. We get it. But the ratings tell us there's one predominant time, especially if you're a full-time football show like we are. So we miss Greeny a lot. He did miss a lot of days. It was insane. Hey, Greeny, how about for selfish reasons alone on this stage?

Exactly. For as long as we go, you gotta go. Exactly. It's the rules, Greeny, how about for selfish reasons alone on this stage? For as long as we go, you gotta go. Exactly. It's the rules, Greeny. If Foxy's looking for a second, I will second what he said. What did Foxy say? Unwatchable without Greeny. Because it doesn't make sports media world better, or because, what do you think? We know why.

That's how he digs. He's a hater. Known hater. Let's remember that. Tony's point to Jerry and Joe's that they wheel out there sometimes. All right. There's no reason for that. You're Boston, Connor. An eight-year-old told you to go fuck yourself. Exactly.

I'm the exact same. If you weren't here, we wouldn't be wheeling ourselves out here doing some bullshit. No, by the way, I'm thinking about that, guys. I'm thinking about it. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah, yeah. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't know about that.

Slow down. Yeah, boy. I've been thinking about that. Yeah, slow down. Yeah, boy. I've been thinking about that for the offseason. We've got a big offseason coming up. I don't know. To these guys' point, you know, the show is what it is when Greeny's not there, but it's get up with Mike Greenberg and co. It's not get up with Maz Maziano and co.

But they built the pier. They built that entire thing, I think, so that this whole show could happen with Greeny. And there's been different iterations of it. Beautiful. And Greeny, it is gorgeous. Yeah, it's great. That's one of the coolest sections of New York City.

It really is. It's beautiful. It's the pier down there, Pier 17 or whatever. It's clean. Well. Dude, you can walk right to Wall Street. It really is. Like, I walked right down that fucking Big Bull.

Yeah, sure. Just walked right by it big bull yeah sure just walked right by like huh would have never been in this part of town ever financial district i think it is down there great walk around they got like a brick roads that have like shops and shit in there heineken party deck or if you know you want to get a 20 22 dollar you know imported brew go right ahead they have keg cans yeah yeah yeah they did big fat boys. They have keg cans? Yeah. They did.

Big fat boys. Sonic and keg cans. It's pretty good. Nonetheless, it's a beautiful area. Greeny hosts a great show. Greeny, please give us a heads up on the days you're off, though. Because we will do the same. You need that.

And that's a massive compliment. And I think everybody that is at Get Up should take it as such, and they probably do because they do know us over here. Nonetheless, Greeny said on Get Up this morning, great show. do because they do know us over here. Nonetheless, Greeny said on get-up this morning, great show. Greeny was awesome. Great show. Great work, Greeny. Thank you, Greeny. Thank you, Greeny.

Anyways, Greeny said that whenever Tua got slung down and was knocked unconscious on a Thursday night football, Good Morning America was talking about the NFL having an issue with concussions, basically, is how he was framing it. He said when Tua or when Tom Brady got tackled by Grady Jarrett, it was football people talking about how bad it was. It wasn't Good Morning America saying the NFL isn't caring about their quarterbacks or whatever.

He was alluding to the fact that the NFL is okay with these terrible roughing the passer calls potentially because it's not going to draw attention in a negative way to the NFL as being a bunch of barbarians who don't care about their players. And I think that's a pretty valid point. But also, it's fucking 19 million viewers on like a Sunday afternoon. We are bigger than Good Morning America. Like the game needs to be as good.

No offense, Good Morning America. We love it when you guys talk about our sport. We wish it would be a little bit more positive. Normally, it's some other stuff. And you guys got a lot to do. You got to change the world. I don't know if any news channel is bumping what the NFL does at 50 million, let alone all the ratings things.

It's like, let's make the NFL as good as possible. I respect what Green is saying, and it's probably the right way to be thinking in that. But in my eyes, let's make the game as good as possible so we can continue to grow. And everybody, I guess the NFL does have to kind of cover their ass though with the whole concussion thing because Dr. Will Smith in the movie. Yeah. And it was a bad, it was an ugly scene. Obviously Thursday night football, a lot of eyes on it with Tua being out there and then the reaction.

So they have overreacted, I think, with the rough and the passive calls. But at the same time, it's football. And if we're being honest, like there will always be concussion issues with football there will always be broken bones broke like that's just that's it's a part of the game until we stop playing tackle at full speed like the athletes only getting bigger stronger faster like that it's you know it's evolution so as long we're watching and playing football which i think we will continue to do we're going to have those injuries uh like the sacks though like i mean rough in the past, I get it.

I get the rules. I get the player safety. But, you know, Chris Jones, Grady Jarrett, the one in Baltimore, Buffalo, like these are like getting egregious. And big-time parts of the game. Huge. So how about this? I'd like to extend an old branch to Good Morning America

to put a segment on about how these calls are ruining the greatest league on earth. Here we go. Straight hands to the air. So now it's on news, both things. Yeah. Right now we're kind of. And the NFL has to respond. Covering both sides of the coin.

Yeah. Yeah. Did we fix this? Well said. Might have. Because Good Morning America does great work. Great work. Unbelievable.

The best in the game. Well, there's also. The other one. Today show today's show burleson cbs morning news morning so it's kind of like the same thing yeah whoa whoa different network yeah whoa whoa throw just anybody nbc abc cbs they all got to work okay what are we doing hold on there's another one what's the the nbc has one. That's the one. The Today Show. Don't forget about Red Table Talk. Yeah, and the Morning Show. Yeah, and the Today Show. The Morning Show is on Apple.

That's not a daily morning show. No. That's a story about a former morning show. Exactly. So that's why the Today Show. That's right. There's a lot of morning shows. Which one's Whoopi on?

Whoopi is on... The View. That's right. People love that or hate that is that's right people love that or hate that that's what I've heard that's what I've heard that's it

people love it or hate it is Ozzy Osbourne's daughter still on that show I don't think I've ever watched I thought Sharon was on it

Sharon Sharon anyways we need to broaden our horizon a little bit and that's what we're saying about Good Morning America

too yeah yes if you guys want to talk about the biggest league on earth the greatest sport

on earth you know a little bit more in America, too. Yeah. Yes. If you guys want to talk about the biggest league on earth, the greatest sport on earth, you know, a little bit more in depth, like about how, you know, fourth quarter, one team having all the momentum, one defense, down six. It's a star. Called the perfect four-man game on the defensive side on the third and five. Waited all game. Got to have it. Held that one in the chamber for the moment that we had.

Started out bad, that team. Yeah, real bad. That team started out bad, bad. They were getting their asses beat. This team stinks. People were saying, what an underdog story. This one game was an underdog story. Thank you, Marty.

And then all of a sudden, the greatest of all time drops back. Four-man game. Perfectly executed. One of the best players in football, Grady Jarrett. perfectly executed, one of the best players in football, Grady Jarrett, demonstrates the effects of positive change in the game of how you tackle people. Because he's wide open. Could have picked him up and dumped him on his head.

Just slings him down. Slings him down. I think Brady kind of went for a kick. Trying his ding-ding. He went for a kick there, too. No one's talking about that. Well, that was after the, you know, Tom was just trying to get him up off of him. No, no, no. Yeah, yeah, Tom's.

Tom raises his leg. Oh, look like he's trying to shin. Yeah, shin is ding-ding. He was. Like Shinigami. Can't have it. Anyways, you don't have to have all the shin, the ding-ding talk in your feature, but what we're saying is this team came back against all odds,

against the greatest of all time. Yeah. And then a call happened that was a judgment call from a referee that made a similar call the week before. And it's like, that's a good story for Good Morning America or the Today Show or The View or the… Steve Wilco Show. Sure.

Steve. Steve Wilco. I don't know if Steve's covering that. He should be. I thought we reviewed those. I think that's an easy fix, honestly. Hold on. What did Aaron say about…

That's an easy fix. What did Aaron say about the review? He said intent is tough to be judged. Yeah, he said that it's basically still, you know, like it's impossible to take the subjectivity out of it because no matter what, like it's still one person's opinion on whether or not it's roughing or not. And he said he doesn't know how that ever gets out of the decision process. Yeah, we've always said,

and I think it's because we're the most naive group of humans probably. Sure, sure. I don't want to lump you in because you're not here every day. We are. We're always just like, oh, they might not have. Who knows? Somebody knows. I'm not going to get into it.

We might be naive, but I think you can judge people's intent whenever you're watching. You know, when you're watching instant replay. It looks like a duck. That's what we were talking about for the college football stuff with the helmet, the helmet. I was calling the first year that was instituted. I was calling college football games. My first time calling football games was calling college football games on a

Thursday night with the NFL having Thursday night football. Yeah. Those games are happening still. I was on that remote operation so we didn't even have a telestrator or replay we had we could only see what we had on the field because we're sending the stream elsewhere and then it's going up there that was the first year of the helmet to helmet a thing I got to go to a college football like summit that ESPN put down on uh in Charlotte that had like the lead rules person talking about about how it's like crown of the head, head above shoulder, like breaking down what the rule is, how the rule is. And I remember people asking questions.

I think Herbie even asked questions. He was down there, and I didn't know Herbie the way I know him now. It was at that event where we rode in the same car together, though, to the hotel from the airport, and we got to chat to each other, and I think that's the first time Herbie realized I was a human, you know, not just an Internet cartoon. Sure, sure. Like, oh, no, this is how he is all the time. I think Herbie kind of recognized.

But Herbie, I think, asked a question, and a lot of people asked a question about, like, so the guy's getting kicked out of the game for that, you know? And I think there was a lot of people that were wondering how it goes. And if you remember that first season, it was like like accidental blows guys were getting kicked out of games it was and i i think the overwhelming reaction was can we not just say like if the intent was to hit somebody in the head then they get ejected from the game still be 15 like if it's still a helmet to helmet situation make it 15 we understand that but to eject somebody and kick them out of the game like that's a big deal so i think we've always thought that you could judge intent and i think maybe

we're too naive i guess is that what everybody's saying because i think you can in a replay judge intent on on uh on a rough it's tough with roughing the passer i think and the thing with roughing the passer is and sean make sean payton I saw him speak on it yesterday, I think. He talked about how, like, the ref has a certain view of it. So, like, that Chris Jones one, like, he was behind. So he sees him following. He doesn't see the strip and the ball and the left hand, like the angle that we saw on TV. So if they get those, all those, let's say, three, four different angles, now they can see it.

Now the hits in college, that's different. Regardless of your intent, if you drop your crown, you do certain things, I understand, like, hey, it's kind of like no nonsense. We're going to get you out of here for your safety and to make it that serious so that you don't hurt yourself or the other person. So I get it. But as far as roughing the passer, I think you – they did it a couple years ago with pass interference,

which I thought was a terrible – I thought that was a terrible idea from the jump. Why? Whoa, whoa, whoa. Because you slow-mo anything, and going down the field, it's going to look like pass interference in slow motion. So you think impossible to judge in real time? Because I do think during the pass interference review era, there were some pass interferences that were challenged.

And we watched it, and everybody on earth was like, that's the wrong call. Now, did the DBs not feel that way? I didn't even think about it through the lens of you guys, where it's like, yeah, if you slow it down frame by frame, that might have happened. But I'm also taught that if I can get away with it, like, that's a part of being a good DB. Is that what you guys are kind of thinking? Exactly. It would be similar to, like, holding with offensive linemen. Like, that's something you can throw on every passing or run play.

Because you guys actually have little games. Yeah, it's little games. There's like little actual tactics and techniques not to get caught, right? Exactly. You do business

as business is being done. Depending on the crew, you know coaches, we go over to different crews, the different back judges, what calls they, you know, they lead the league in

or if they're in the bottom of the league in certain things. So you know kind of what you're getting going into the game and then as the game is going on, first, second quarter, you're, oh, shit, they're not calling shit.

We're playing offensive or defensively. Until the fourth quarter, they don't call it. Well, no, actually, like fourth quarter, like depending if they're calling the game a certain way, usually in the fourth quarter, it stays that way. So if they're really tic-tac, it's going to pick up. If they're letting the boys play, it's going to be more of that in the fourth quarter, offensively and defensively. And, you know, I think that's the same thing in the trenches as well. I would have to ask AQ about that, but I don't mind that. So I think that's from their eyes, right?

And it makes a lot of sense because as you were talking about that, it was the first time, and I'm sorry about this, to all corners in the NFL, I've never been able to think from that perspective because I'll tell you what, I've never been able to think from that perspective because I'll tell you what, I've never been able to even think about playing that position. Sure. Fair. Yeah.

Fastest. Yeah. Got to be tough. Right. Your cardio's got to be. Second to none. Through the, you got to be like a soccer player. Yeah.

You got to be a fucking soccer player because you're not getting subbed out. You know, the wideouts go deep. Punk ass wideouts. They go off the field. They're taking, they're getting, some because you're not getting subbed out. You know, the wideouts go deep. Punk-ass wideouts. They go off the field. Some of them are even getting air. Getting oxygen, you know, for a first down, getting some things. Then they're coming back out.

DB's still sitting there. Had to do the last four plays. Had to make a tackle maybe even because it was a run. Had to get the call from the opposite side of the field sometimes. Jog all the way back. And then all of a sudden it's, oh, now we're. Oh, here we go. This guy had oxygen in it.

Now he's going, hey, you know what? Hey, we are going here. So I've never really thought from that perspective because it would be rude of me to do so. Had never even thought about how you guys feel about the pass interference thing until today because I thought it was very obvious for everybody if it was pass interference or not pass interference.

Felt like it was universally agreed upon on a rule and then somehow the refs on television were making the opposite. But as you started talking there, I started thinking about like in the special teams games, whenever you're covering kicks or covering a punt, there's like little tricks where you can grab people's hips and it's like a little slingshot operation that are like people practice these things to get honed in on them because you're in a spot where refs can't see you. And if you were to review every single play, there's probably shit like that happening on both sides. on both sides.

So maybe that is why you hear a lot of the super high-end football people say the pass interference review thing is just bullshit if they're on the defensive side of the ball. I think we just kind of pieced it together there. It just came in right before the show that Mike McCarthy said that he's up for reviewing any penalty that's a 15-yard penalty. Now, that would include pass interference, but that also includes roughness in the pass or unnecessary roughness, stuff like that,

which I think is the only ones you can judge intent. Yeah, I think so. Face mask. Yeah, face mask, horse collar. Hey, how about that ear hole? What happened? Somebody grabbed an ear hole the other day. Everybody thought it was a face mask.

It was a giant, right? Yeah, it was on dogs. Yeah. Fair game, right? Yeah, I think you were going to bat on Twitter, right? Yeah. Yeah, okay, so it was your Twitter. Because it looked like a face mask.

Well, it was egregious, but I mean, yeah. I ain't going to quote you guys. If you can grab dreads, I can grab your fucking ear hole. Hey, that's pretty solid. Because, you know, your whole head is going with the ear hole. You grab the face mask, it's a little different. You ever have fro dreads, anything? No dreads.

I had a fro all through, shit, really, from fourth grade to 11th grade. Was it awesome, or what? You had that thing big? We got Randy Moss big? You know, it was something you got to deal with every day. I didn't like it.

But I was insecure about the shape of my head as a young kid. So I stuck with it until I went to my senior year. I'm like, you know, fuck it.

I got to rock this peanut head. Hey, I think you did the right thing. I think you made the right decision. A great fro though is something that I would have grown if I had the ability to do so. That's like fucking coolest

look of all time. Yeah, top three. Walking in with a fucking massive fro. Which are the two? Yeah. What did you say? You said top three.

Yeah. What are the other two? Yeah. Dreads and mullet. Duh. The fuck? Duh. What a fucking idiot.

Come on, Tony. Mohawk? I'm a Mohawk guy. I had a Mohawk at one point. Mohawk was in there for a bit. Yeah. The reason why I want to ask getting tackled by your hair jeez i'm not i had long hair that went outside my helmet and i never got

tackled by it but the helmet was so tight on the back that if you grabbed some of my hair i couldn't feel i couldn't feel because the helmet like cut off the feeling almost at the end of it but then there were some other ones that were going through some cracks if they got a hold of that like hurt like fucking hell. Going down. Jones got pulled down by his dread the other day. You think that hurt like fucking hell or no? I don't know.

Sometimes I see them come out. I don't know. I don't have any personal experience that way. I would assume it hurts, though. If you pull that shit, I mean, you got me, buddy. I'm going down. My long hair, there was parts that I couldn't even feel. I had long-ass fucking hair.

I mean, I had hair down here or whatever. It was disgusting, too. Bad hair. Bad long hair. There was parts that I couldn't even feel. I had long-ass fucking hair. I mean, I had hair down here or whatever. It was disgusting, too. Bad hair. Bad, long hair. I was growing it out to a donator or whatever. Then I started doing this, like, little top, like, top of my head. Samurai. Yeah, like, right on top of my head thing that was sitting there.

And I was living hilariously at the time, obviously. But that thing got too disgusting. But there was parts where I couldn't feel. And then there was other parts where I was like, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Relax there. Vinatieri fucking got me one day while I was standing up. I mean, Vinny's the man, though.

Classic Vinny. Have you seen Vinny lately? I saw him a little while ago. Looked like he... Dude. Adam Vinatieri. What's that? He's juiced up. He's yoked. Yeah, you've made some accusations. Adam Vinatieri. What's that? He's juiced up. He's yoked. What are you? Yeah, you made some accusations. I'm not making accusations. He's got to carry moose out of the woods.

You've got to put a moose on your back. You've got to fucking beat up a little. Adam Vinatieri right now might be preparing for a World's Strongest Man competition. Super jogged. Him and Jim Irsay from 1997 are going to absolutely battle it out. The Indy Star tweeted this like two or three weeks ago, and I don't know how we missed it. I honestly don't know how it slipped through the cracks here.

Jim Irsay was a competitive super heavyweight powerlifter weighing 307 pounds, eating 20,000 calories a day. At the same time, he was a general manager in the NFL. Jim Irsay. Now he's the head of the team. How many problems did he promise that decade? 20. What? Jim Irsay. Now he's the head of the team. Yeah. Unbelievable. How many did he promise that decade? 20.

What's your problem? Just saying. So I'm happy you brought that up. Me too. That leads me. Thank you, Jim, for being an absolute stallion, okay? He doesn't have to go punish his body every single day. No.

He's born mega rich. I didn't know he was a GM. I didn't know that. 32 years old or something like that I think 32 how long how long were we running you know I think it was like

10 years I think I'm not sure and then he bought the team from his dad like in person it was like a handshake thing I think

if I remember the story right I was sitting at an event the story was being told on the stage and people were kind of having little side conversations I was trying to have my ear to the story

I was like did this guy just say he was fucking general manager at 32 years old? Is anybody listening to this? And then I think he bought the team from his dad with a handshake deal for like a million bucks or something like that.

1984, he was the general manager. It looks like 1995, he was day-to-day management of senior executive vice president, general manager. He was general manager for a long time, I think. Yeah, he was running the team. Youngest GM at the time. Until 97, maybe? Yeah.

Damn. Also a power lifter. No big deal. I only said that because... Let's fucking trade up! It's the anniversary. Ohio State champion, it says. Yeah, well, championship, I think.

I don't know if he was the champion. I hope he won. Hey, let's go. Congrats. Hey, Ohio, how do you feel about that? Yeah. Some yups kid, okay? Some yups kid came over from Indiana to win the Ohio State.

There's Ohio people right now. He didn't win. He didn't win. My fucking Uncle Ned. Anyways, Jim Irsay also put out a tweet a couple years ago on this particular day and this is something that Connor alludes to about once a week now at this point he's damn right

because Connor is a citizen of Indianapolis right now stealing my money now we don't believe that your tax dollars are being used at all for the public funding that happened for the lucas oil stadium in which jim ursay negotiated an incredible deal for good business man but pennies on the dollar well i mean hey that's colts are a team hey for the shoe or not

dude it's for the shoe if they do what he promised two years ago he tweeted this particular tweet right here colts Nation don't you worry we're going to get the horseshoe at least two Lombardis this decade as sure as the sun rises and the seasons change it's coming don't you ever doubt that ever you will see greatness believe and you will see great people of Indianapolisapolis is what jim mercy said yeah and i think this goes back to what aaron rogers was talking about in that locker room okay you're too big of a stooge to realize it you too tone because you started this entire conversation today how's you do you know why the colts are struggling why is that well if you ask aaron

and obviously you asked jim, two very successful people, it's because this city isn't trying to manifest it enough. This city doesn't believe enough. Remember, what you're putting out into the universe is normally what you bring back. Aaron had to told Ja that in the locker room. And just frankly, as a whole, you put negative thoughts out in the air, there's a good chance negative thoughts and negative things are going to come back. You go and law of attraction,, put a little positive out there,

the universe is going to return it and give you some positive. And it's because of citizens like you and citizens like you. Words are spells. I know that now. Yeah, thank you. You've got to be kidding me. You don't believe enough, dude. I believe, but if the Colts aren't playing well because of the slobs in Indiana, don't believe them.

And that's why they're going and deciding, let's give the oldest possible quarterback the most amount of money we can so that we can, for the next three years, go 8-8-1 and not get a good quarterback that's young but be good enough to keep everybody like Frank Reich

and everybody in the building. It really feels like there are a lot of problems going on with the Colts. And a lot of it has to do with some of their best players not playing like their best players. Oh, my gosh. I don't think we should blame the slobs of Indiana either. Oh, you guys are manifesting. Hey, myself included.

To quote the great Ron Rivera, I think it's just one word. Quarterback. There you go. Quarterback. Quarterback. Ain't wrong. Corvette. Corvette. Ain't wrong. Yeah, fucking Corvette. That moment was wild.

No follow-up. No Corvette. One word. Carson revenge game coming at you. The guy immediately saying, well, Cooper Rush. They weren't playing. He's been around. He's good. He's good.

But you picked Carson Wentz, Coach. Yeah, I still believe in him. I think that's the moment in his head he's like, oh, shit. Forgot where he was. I got to go. We're not in. This is not a private conversation. All right, let's reel this one in.

And you see, you know, some promise there. Good game. Too bad. How about Carson just, yep, let's reel this one in. And you see some promise there. Good game. Two bad ones, three bad ones. Yep, that's coach. Coach is straightforward. Carson Wentz, man. Guy, listen, I've been a part of it, I guess. But we would do that to anybody, I think, in that particular position.

He has the talent. And you heard Ron Rivera talk about it. You heard Frank talk about it. You heard Philadelphia talk about it. I think if you talked to any fans in the Eagles fan base or the Colts fan base, they'd be like, yeah, at points, this guy is an unbelievable quarterback. You'll see him do some stuff on the field. It's like, okay.

Okay, this is the guy. Exactly. And then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, it's like he'll just – the NFL is chess. It is high-level football happening. You cannot fuck around. Like, you can't. And if you do, it might work sometimes.

But more often than not, the other side that is very smart is going to take advantage of it. And it feels like he's working a perfect closed Sicilian, okay? He's working, you know, he's working that chess move, that old what's-her-face saw on the ceiling. And then right before he has checkmate, like he might have even had check sometimes. Right before checkmate, he just goes, ah, fuck it, I don't want it. He just knocks over the king, which I think,

or the queen, which means you're dead or whatever. Like, he just does that out of nowhere. So I think there's always an opportunity for Carson to fix all that shit. But everybody that talks about football says, no, he can't do it. I'm like, I think he'll continue to give people hope, though, because of what you said. On Sunday against the Titans, there were some plays he made.

It was like, fuck. And then the last three games when you need it, or the last three plays when you need it on the two, he threw three picks, only one of them counted. I mean, it's just like none of it makes any sense. I don't understand the Carson Wentz thing, but Ron Rivera appears to be a bit flabbergasted as well, D-Bud. Yeah, it was wild.

That comment, like he just, you know, he was in the AFC West or something. He just had a dud at the quarterback position. Talented, obviously, like you said, at some point. Makes sense. Is that Russell Wilson? What is he? You know what I'm saying? That's the most talented quarterback division, right?

We would all agree on that. Sure. Oh, okay. Yeah, I thought you were talking about one of the coaches. Yeah, I'm just saying. Winston, he ain't the only quarterback that has that. You know, Matt Stafford, at some point in the game, he's going to throw you. Yeah, so there's even more hope.

Derek Carr, Russell Wilson, Matt Ryan. Yes. I mean, you go down the list. It's a few starting quarterbacks that do it, but there's a lot of other issues on that commander's team, and, I mean, even beyond the team. All right, so let's go past that one step forward that, you know, I think Matt Ryan was called, what, an astronaut?

Yep. Navy SEAL. Which is so goddamn disrespectful. Peyton Manning. Jesus Christ. If I'm a Navy SEAL, I will never root for the Colts, but I'm not. However, if you are a SEAL and you heard that shit, you know what to do. Matt Ryan I don't think is making through buds.

No, I also don't know if you're looking at all the quarterbacks and if the Navy SEAL is the best quarterback. You're like, fucking Matt Ryan is a Navy SEAL quarterback. So, anyways, he was described as a massive compliment, a Navy SEAL. Well. Which might have been, you know, Stolen Bauer. Yeah. Stolen Bauer.

Astronauts probably pissed, too. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Reg called him Peyton Manning. Exactly. Peyton Manning doesn't talk to Reggie Wayne anymore. All right. Anyways.

First source. They talk about Matt Ryan being like this super leader, right, in the locker room, everything needed. I think Russell Wilson is considered what? Is he? I don't know. Have we heard about Russ in the locker room or just off the field? What do we know?

He's a chosen one. I don't know. I mean, you don't get too much out of the locker room currently, which I don't think you should, but if you look at how his former teammates, you know, talk about him and treat him publicly. That's interesting, isn't it? It's very, very, uh, very interesting. So I guess we can go ahead and slot that in there as well. But that's kind of the conversation that's been lingering over Carson's head. So that's why I think when Ron

Rivera says something like that, that takes a shot too in that particular, and it's just like, that was a wild scene. But anyways, Ron Ron Ver has apologized they take on the Chicago Bears tomorrow in Chicago Darius early feelings on commanders versus Chicago Bears we all know that this game is expected to be terrible a lot of bad football yeah it can't be worse than last week agreed fucking agreed I completely agree what are your thoughts on the game though so far D-B? I'm interested to see how the commanders come out and respond. Obviously, when you create that distraction as a head coach, especially taking a shot at your quarterback, you've got to see that. But, I mean, I'm honestly expecting another stinker, unfortunately.

I believe we're supposed to have Jonathan Stewart on within the last 10 minutes. No, he's not on. We did not get him. Jay Stu. We're working through something back here. Oh, yes. Here we go. That's what I was... So I apologize for not expanding upon what you said.

I think all hell is breaking loose. We'll get back into it. All hell is breaking loose in one of my ears there. Yeah, there's something going on. How come? What are we, three weeks into this thing now? All hell is breaking loose. We'll get back into it. Oh, gee. All hell is breaking loose in one of my ears there. Chaos there. Yeah, there's something going on. How come? What are we, three weeks into this thing now?

Into here? Into here? Three, four weeks into it? Yeah. Four? Close to a month. Yeah, I think four. This is week four.

New things are still popping up. How does that happen, do you think? Well, we know why. When people come in here and they pick a wire and unplug it to see what happens. Beep boop. It does feel like that's what happens. Like MacGruber. See if the boys can figure this out tomorrow.

We're supposed to have Jonathan Stewart on here in a moment. Hopefully we'll get it figured out. Back to your point about tomorrow's game. Last week's game was terrible. Chase McLaughlin won the AFC special teams player of the week because he was the only motherfucker that scored for the Colts. He was the only he was the only motherfucker that scored for the Colts.

Yep. And was the only motherfucker that was even close to scoring for the Colts. And then the Broncos, I mean, it was just a terrible thing. So people will still watch this game, though, right? Yes. Yeah, definitely. It's the NFL. I mean, I'll still watch.

I'll still watch. How do you think the overall will be, though? And do you think Amazon, they're bringing back Marshawn Lynch? Marshawn, or not bringing back, they're bringing in Marshawn Lynch for Thursday night football coverage, which I assume will be electrifying. But people will watch this game tomorrow, right? There's no problem with thinking that they won't. No, people are still going to watch.

It's the NFL. I mean, I feel like the worst NFL game still has higher ratings than damn near any other sport. And Chicago's a big market, but we were talking about it before. Because we're looking at this game, oh, Commanders Bears is going to be a shitty game. Everyone thinks it's going to be a shitty game. I'm expecting like a 45-point shootout. Tomorrow's an over.

Points, points, points tomorrow. We are sitting on the over for tomorrow. What's that line say that? 37, I believe. Boom. I love that. I'm going to take it at 55. Alternate. Easy. I'm not even thinking about the under. So, now that we mentioned it publicly,

now we have to start thinking about whether it's going to turn back around. No way. Because if we take this bet and we lose on Friday, we're going to be like, we're naive. Look at us. We think the best is going to happen all the time. It never does. What is the deal?

Or we're waking up on Friday going, how come nothing makes sense? Like tomorrow night's game, commanders and bears, should be a shit show. What is the deal? Or we're waking up on Friday going, how come nothing makes sense? Like tomorrow night's game, Commanders and Bears, should be a shit show. Should be an absolute shit show. Now, I think the Chicago Bears have done some good things. Every once in a while, just haven't been able to win some games. Commanders have done some good things. Almost beat the Titans last week.

Should have beat the Titans probably if you really watched the film back. So both these teams have some shit going, but they also have a chance to be great. And maybe this is a week that it turns around for them. You know, the Denver Broncos head coach, Nathaniel Hackett, Darius said that we're going through growing pains right now. Everything's fixable. We just got to keep going. Do you believe that? Do you think like teams have shown what they are already? Or do you think there is chance for massive growth in the middle of a season? Still definitely chance for massive growth. A lot of ball left, a lot of adjustments left to be made. You know, with certain teams, you know, everybody's dealing with injuries or people coming back off of

a pup list and things like that. So yeah, it's definitely but when you look at the Broncos and watching that team, I mean, especially if you look at their division too, because you look at the other teams in that division that you expect to continue to get better, I don't have a lot of hope with that team like

like russ shockingly looks looks bad this year yeah they're dead yeah i like in the decision making like that that interception that he threw to to gilmore shout out to gilly lock for making that play so that's a that's not a throw you make especially to that on that matchup like i was a backup receiver coming in for something you throw that when you're in control of the game, you go up six points at that point. That felt like you're going up 30 points in that game. So just like some of the decisions, and it's not looking good out there in Denver. So Richard Sherman gave a passionate speech

after Thursday Night Football last week. Yeah, it was a lot. Passionate. It was a lot. He was pissed. He was passionate. He was? He was.

Had to be some real genuine emotion in there to be that passionate. I assume he cares for us or the opposite. Yeah, he hates his company. There's actual care. There's actual feelings there because the passion. And maybe that's Richard Sherman on TV, by the way. True. And if that's the case, great clip.

Hey, great piece to add to sports media. I can't wait to watch him. I think his brain is fantastic. I think his brain is fantastic. I think his resume is great. And he comes from an angle that nobody else does. He's Richard Sherman. I mean, there's no other Richard Shermans out there.

From Compton, went to Stanford, wide receiver, now a corner. I mean, just Super Bowl champ, has some of the biggest moments. There's nobody like Richard Sherman. So maybe that is just how Richard Sherman is going to be. But he was very passionate after that Thursday Night Football bore fest that, you know, run the damn ball, basically. And I wonder if we saw Russ on primetime, and in those moments, he's making those off-script plays, and he's throwing it far. All those other games that aren't on primetime, I wonder if it's super run-heavy, dominant in the games that we don't watch. In primetime, Russ is different. Or has it always been the games that we don't watch in prime time russ is different or has it always been the fact that russ can't just do everything with his arm because in my eyes when russ signs

with the broncos and he gets nathaniel hackett who's this west coast offense guru or whatever because his dad was in it or whatever it's like and he's got weapons oh russ is going to cook he's going to cook but now everybody that has kind of like knows him like it sounds like they're all iterating the same thing like hey it all goes through the run game and then russ can make decisions after which is every quarterback but i think it was being marketed to us and perpetuated to us like hey let russ cook let russ cook let russ cook and it seems like his meal is a lot more uh yeah a lot more of this and then being it which is not a that's a lot of quarterback yeah he does it a lot but so do you think the broncos didn't which is not a – that's a lot of quarterback. Not a bad thing, yeah. Brady does it a lot.

So do you think the Broncos didn't know that? Because it sounds like that. The Walters damn sure didn't know it. I tell you, they didn't know it. But you always – and that's why coming into this year, I'll say I'd be shocked if the Raiders or the Broncos won. And everybody was like, oh, anybody can win this division. There's so much talent.

Yeah, we were saying that. New coaches. But that's moving parts. You've got Hackett coming in. He's got a whole other set of issues. I already hired somebody to help him with game management. And even if you think about that fourth and one play. I forgot about that.

They called, like, I think the defense called a timeout. Offense came out. They called a timeout. Then they come out for the third time in the same formation. So, like, before the ball even snapped, I'm like, as a defensive coordinator, as a defensive player. Kodak? Kodak? Yeah, but they gave us a Kodak, too. Usually that's something we do. We wait for the formation. So like before the ball even snapped, I'm like, as a defensive coordinator, as a defensive player. Kodak? Yeah, but they gave us a Kodak too. Usually that's something we do. We wait for the formation, wait for a

shift or a motion, call a late timeout. It's called Kodak, take a picture. Yeah, so that you know, okay, because once you get a formation, now you have a menu. Because as a play caller, defensive coordinator, all you have is personnel, you know the time, obviously the field position. But now, if you're giving me the formation now i have a much higher success rate to stop whatever

play is coming like if i know where uh judy is or i know where this player that player is now that helps me defend that place so when i saw that that's that's on coaches that's on you know even the quarterback hey let's come out with something different maybe you have another play in the chamber but um there's a lot of moving parts there they could turn around honestly i'm not very bullish on them but uh it's just man now he's dealing with an injury to the shoulder injury uh man it's looking rough for the broncos right now unfortunately well i think like lombardi has been hammering this all year like russ when he he used to run a lot and like teams would have to account for that he'd be rushing for 50 60 yards a game and even in like on thursday night i think it's

on the first possession he had like a 17 yard run they march right down the field they don't score but maybe it's because he wants to be remembered you know allegedly as the top five quarterback of all time like he doesn't want to run anymore he wants to stay on the field he doesn't want to get hurt but like that was a massive part of his game when he was one of the best quarterbacks in the nfl it was because at any point he could extend plays and if no one's open boom he could take off and get you 14 15 yards and he would do that multiple times he just doesn't do that what were you saying so i was looking at that like to start his career, the first four years, he had over 100 rushes. 2020, he had 83.

And then last year, it dropped to 43 rushes. So 40 less rushes, and now he has seven. 40 less rushes. I missed the games, too, though, last year for the first time. Two games. Mouthfinger. It was only two? Yeah, it was only two. Middlefinger.

Mouthfinger. He came back. Remember, he rehabbed for 22 hours a day. Yeah, remember, he did the walkthrough on the field. Yep. Like 2020 went 513 yards rushing to 183 in 2021. So maybe we need to add an ingredient back in our recipe if we want to let Russ cook.

That's right. But he's older now, though. Yeah, he's also missing throws, I feel like, that we used to see him just get on every single time. With that deep ball to Judy against the Colts where it was kind of in between two defenders and he overshot him. We saw Geno Smith hit Tyler Lockett on that.

That was a mortar ball. And it felt like we saw that from Russ damn near every week when he was with Seattle. That's the best deep ball in the game. Yeah. That's what it was. Russ has a shoulder, right? Didn't he stop and see a doctor has a shoulder? Shoulder can affect arm talent a lot.

Yeah. I think that is something you can see quarterbacks' balls almost start looking like bottle rockets as opposed to, you know, bombs out there. And I think maybe he had a shoulder issue. Was it going into last game or happening after last game because he stayed in L.A. or went to L.A. to get it checked out? Had to go back to the house?

Yeah. Get it checked out. But, like, would that affect deep balls? Because even, like... Shoulder injury? Yeah, yeah. What were you saying there? What was that, man?

I don't know. I feel like I caught... Like, I heard, like, a... Like a... No, it's just a lot of things. I heard a voice. Yeah, right? Go back to the house?

Go back to the house? I heard a voice. It was after the game? Yeah, because, like, I think it came out nothing was wrong. So, like, if you're his teammate... Like, if you're his teammate, it's like, oh, this dude's flying back to L.A. for the, unless you have the long weekend, he can do whatever the fuck he wants. Sure.

Oh, yeah, three days off. Yeah, he's good. But he did get his shoulder checked out, so something has to happen. But I think, like, that would affect your ball if he has something wrong. He doesn't look like. Even him overshooting guys? He doesn't, he just doesn't look like. I mean, and last year, he didn't look great either.

So, it's not, this is not like he's just. Yeah, but in Monaco he looked good, remember? He always looks cool. When he was throwing an AB in his backyard and wherever his backyard is, we still can't find out where that is. That's a very nice backyard. Was that in Seattle, that backyard?

I thought that was Seattle. He was still throwing there this year, I thought. This offseason. This is unlimited, man. He's had a great career. Outstanding career. He's had a great career. D'oh! Outstanding career. He's had a great career. Super Bowl champion. His winning percentage is unbelievable

quarterback rating. Yeah, baby. Sure. I mean, if he does fall off, I mean, he had a great career. Everybody falls.

Everybody can't be Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers and, you know, these guys that play forever. So, you know. Congrats. And he got a lot of money. He's got a lot more

guaranteed money, so. Broncos don't want to hear that. I want to play. That was He's got a lot of money. He's got a lot more guaranteed money. Broncos don't want to hear that. Seven years, 60 million more. They're fucked. No. Well, hey, look. Absolutely, but look at like, and I'm not doing this to show on the Colts,

but look at like Matt Ryan. If they want to get rid of Russell Wilson, who is going to take that contract? Because if they want to get rid of Russell Wilson, who is going to take that contract? Because if they want to get rid of him, he's not probably playing that well. Hey, so we're going into week six. Exactly. Okay, you've got to sign for $230 million. But he's missing throws.

He's throwing guys behind. Oh, no. He's making bad decisions. And like that last play in overtime, we can say great play by Gilmore because it was. But Dorlosky brought it up. I mean, they had the man beater on the backside in that bunch. And instead of doing what you're supposed to do as a quarterback,

which I don't fucking know what to do. I'm just saying based on what the formation and the man coverage, what you're supposed to do. Like, he didn't even make the right decision. That's what Orlovsky told you. That's what Orlovsky told you. And you probably don't fucking throw at Stephon Gilmore again. Yeah.

You know what I mean? With the game on the line. I think it's interesting, all of it, because he did just get paid. He is going to be a Bronco for a long time. For so long. With the richest owner in the NFL. It's just a fascinating situation. Before we get to a break, because we've got to figure out some tech issues

with Jonathan Stewart in the back. Zito's been on two phones. Oh, cheesy. Anytime you see that type of stuff going on, you know it's good news. I'd like to address something that happened yesterday. Yesterday I was a terrible host.

Yesterday I was a bad host. What do you mean? What? Because we're in the middle of a conversation and I went off on a tangent. I said some things that I had been thinking of saying for a long time but I gave no precipice of what I was talking. I didn't give full context. I pride myself on trying to give as much full context as possible.

That's why whenever I talk, I say a lot of words. Now, it is a talk show, and the talk show is named after me, so probably going to talk a lot anyways. But whenever I'm setting something up, I like to give, you know, full context to things because I think that is warranted so you can understand a full what's happening, I think. So yesterday I didn't give full context. I told a guy to shut the fuck up. Okay. You remember that?

I did. I enjoyed it. Five, six times. Hey, shut the fuck up. Clipped it. It was awesome. Hey, shut the fuck up. I don't do that much.

I'm not that type of person. That is literally not something I do often, but this particular human called for it and still calls for it. And I'm not apologizing for doing it. I just wish that I would have laid out a little bit better context for the situation. So everybody could understand why I was doing it for. So for that, I am wrong. And I would like to admit that this dude was out of line. Okay. This dude is out of his zone that he should be talking about. And this dude tried to be the victim in this thing when he started this whole thing. Without me explaining that to everybody, I could potentially look like an asshole and was an asshole at the time.

So let me dive into this. I was very fortunate to be on Monday Night Manning. I was very fortunate to be on ESPN2 during a Monday Night Football game. It is an honor of a lifetime to be in the position that I am in to get to ESPN2 during a Monday night football game. It is an honor of a lifetime to be in the position that I am in to get to do the things that I'm able to do because most punters in the history have not been able to do this. I had the opportunity on ESPN to set a record straight about one of the most embarrassing punts of all time for a punter, a negative one yard punt that ended up from going from somebody's foot right into their ass and then

up and out of the back of the end zone for his safety. He was replayed 4,000 times in the past, I believe, and this is maybe a little selfish of me, but in the past, I assume everybody would be like, hey, punter, get the ball off. Hey, punter, get the ball off. Hey, punter, get the ball off. And obviously, punter, get the ball off. But in that case, while I was breaking down the film, there was a clear and obvious flaw in a backed up punt by the personal protector of going backwards. There's a limited amount of space already. That's why it's called a backed up punt. And this is something we go over in NFL meeting rooms. This is an NFL situation

because in the NFL, there's different punting rules than there is in college. In the NFL, only two guys are allowed to leave the line of scrimmage before the ball was punted. In college, everybody's allowed to leave the line of scrimmage before the ball was punted. In college, everybody's allowed to leave the line of scrimmage before the ball was punted. So you can just take people that maybe are going to block a punt down the field by acting like you're covering and they have to run with you. You can do a lot of things. You can move the pocket. You can do a lot of things that people see in college football, but you can't always do it in the NFL due to the rules, the intricacies, and the humans that are there. intricacies and the humans that are there. So on Monday Night Football, I was able to explain that although Thomas Morstad did appear to be in the wrong here because he punted a ball right off the

taint of a man right in front of him. It is not technically 100% his fault. The PP should never back up in this situation. He is actually taught his number one rule. Make sure the center is going the right way. Make sure we get the snap off. And then you go forward and you help cause a wall because we have to get this ball out in a shorter amount of space than we normally have. So me getting to say that on Monday Night Manning is a massive honor, I think, not only for me, but also for punters everywhere who know that Thomas would have got fucking buried by everybody for that situation, an embarrassing situation. You had one job situation.

This is a what did they used to do on ESPN Monday Night. Come on, man situation. This is punter getting buried. This is Thomas Morse getting buried. So I got a chance to explain, like, hey, in the NFL, in a backed-up situation, a PP's job is to not back up. It is to hold, hold. And you'll see blocks happen every once in a while.

But that PP clearly, like he would in an open field punt, backed up, backed up because he's supposed to scan. I would assume he's a very intelligent football player. That is why he's a personal protector. He's given out calls. He has to pick up twists. He has to do a lot of things. I'm not blaming him entirely for being like a bad football player.

I'm just saying in this particular situation, he did something that you can't do in that particular play. So I did it in a pretty entertaining fashion. You know, I dropped a taint good. I did this. But I felt like I was doing some education. Then there was somebody that quote tweeted, ESPN, that's one of the first ESPN tweets

I've ever been a part of. ESPN doesn't tweet me a lot. Like, this is not something that happens on a regular basis. Omar, like, Omar does not, that is not, me and ESPN's Twitter and social media is not a real thing. ESPN tweets this out one of my first times. It gets quote tweeted by another punter and the punter says this on his tweet. He is also completely wrong. If Morstead had any sort of awareness, he would realize he was going to do

that and adjust. A typical American understanding of punting, okay? So I said, who the fuck is this guy? Well, we'll go back to the tweet, but I said, who the fuck is this guy? So I clicked on his profile, former punter at the University of Kentucky, career QBR of 118.8, attababy, pununting coach in pin it deep KSR podcast. Former punter at the University of Kentucky Wildcats. Who gives a fuck what the former punter of the University of Kentucky Wildcats thinks about an NFL situation? You won the Ray Guy in college.

He was very good in college. I'm not saying he wasn't. You've never sniffed the NFL. You've never sat in a meeting room. You have no idea what anybody's responsibilities are in the NFL. It's a completely different style of punting than it is in college, which you were great at, I will say. Absolutely great at.

But if you go back to your tweet, you're acting as if you are a fucking expert in something that you are not. And you take a shot at Thomas Morstead, one of the greatest of all time. You take a shot at me. I just got nominated for the fucking Hall of Fame. And you take a shot at fucking Americans in the same tweet. So if you think that I'm just going to sit there and take that and be like, oh, yeah, this guy's right, never.

And I'm sorry that the situation popped up in the middle of a conversation yesterday and I didn't give full context, but fuck that guy. Okay, that is, and I don't have a problem with all Australians. I don't have a problem with all Australian punters. I think this guy is an absolute buffoon, but him attacking American punters is wild because he's acting as if an Australian wouldn't make that type of mistake just strictly because they were born in Australia playing a game called Aussie rules football in which you punt a ball back and forth as a kid. Now,

I didn't grow up punting balls back and forth, but I did kick a ball off the side of a house for hours and hours and hours and hours at a time. Had no other hobbies. And I love the NFL. So there might be some people that are pretty good at kicking that also have a higher football IQ than your fucking dumb ass that you are not scared to kind of open your mouth and run it. But then just a couple weeks later, the actual Aussie punter that I should be talking about on a very regular basis, not this knockoff Max Duffy, the actual Aussie punter that I should be talking about, Michael Dixon, who I have immense respect for. You're talking about coming over to America, working his fucking dick off, translating his game

into the American football game, becoming an absolute weapon. Aussie for sure, certainly Aussie, and he does this in the game literally just the other day against the Saints. 10-10, he rolls to his right, Aussie rules foul ball. Doesn't get a punt off. Gets tackled. His awareness is at negative whatever. Didn't show this. Didn't want to show this. Hate showing this.

Don't like bashing other punters. That's why I felt an incredible honor to be on Monday Night Football to stick up for Thomas Morstead. But whenever this happens, it's like, okay, pal, you bashed all Americans. You bashed Thomas Morstead. You bashed me now what happens to the guy who's the version that everybody was hoping you would be and you don't say a single thing so like that's my problem and that's why i told the guy to shut the fuck up because he has

no idea what he's talking about that being said hour one has completed oh yeah let's get to hour two and i assume someday me and max will run into each other, we'll chat. But until I hear like, hey, I was out of line for talking about something that I knew nothing about. And in a moment in which you tried to attempt to save the reputation of punters, I tried to bury you because I'm a nobody at this point in my life. When I was a Ray Guy guy, that'll be cool too. And all the Kentucky sports radio people that are bashing me all night, calling me an egotistical maniac and all that stuff,

I'm sticking up for my fucking people. If that's egotistical and you like people that hate America, that's on you. Not just your feet. That's on you. I went to West Virginia. I go there. I meet some of the local people. I like to conversate with people.

I'm like, what are some things about West Virginia? They're like, oh, we hate Kentucky. I go, oh, jeez. That's rude. I don't know anybody from that. I come to Indiana. I'm like, hey, how's it going, Indiana? What's going on? We hate people from Kentucky.

I'm like, god damn. Jeez. I didn't know it was because Kentucky hates America. I didn't know Kentucky hated America either. If that's the case, then fucking I guess I got to do it too. Joining us now is a guy that we never, ever would say that to because he's an absolute stallion and a champion of a man. Ladies and gentlemen, national football champion,

Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup champion, I think this is going to work, A.J. Hall. Yay! What's up, buddy? How's it going? Can you guys hear me all right? Yeah, we can hear you perfectly fine. The question is, can you hear us? I guess this has been a problem now two days in a row.

Can you hear us? I can hear you, yeah. Zeed is working his magic behind the scenes, so this is amazing. Hell yeah. Zeed. Hell yeah. I don't think we're going to be able to use the microphones back there, though. So no microphones in the back are going to be allowed to be turned on

because we are actually connected to AJ's audio with a speaker in the back to the program that is running now through the whole entire back with a phone in front of it, basically. Like a modern day two cups of the string between you. So cutting a promo. Yes, exactly. That is exactly what we're doing right now. So cut a promo on a guy.

Go old school with audio as if we're in the basement again. It's great to be back in a good old days. Here we are. Five years ago. It is. It does feel like four or five years ago. You got to go back to go forward. AJ, it's great to see you, pal good old days. Here we are. Five years ago. It is. It does feel like four or five years ago. Yeah, I got to go back to go forward.

AJ, it's great to see you, pal. How are you feeling, man? Are you excited about tomorrow night's matchup between the Commanders and the Bears? I mean, I don't know if I'm going to be able to sleep tonight thinking about that game going on. But I thought I was going to ask you how you feel. And I know you just dumped on that dude again for a little while, got those out. It's good to get that out and let people, you know, I don't want to hold that in too long. Yeah yeah i you know i don't do that with a lot of people and i i feel bad doing it you know when you have a big platform it's something that i think you should take very seriously especially if you want to be remembered

as somebody that's like hey be nice to people say something nice to somebody like i would like the world to be a little bit more positive but he has a platform too so whenever he did the little quote tweet he's the authority on punting for some people you know i thought to myself this guy dumps on me thomas morstead who taught me how to punt is going to be one of the greatest of all time and american punters it's like fuck this dude you know especially like having an opportunity espn's twitter this is a big deal for me this is that like i was not on sports center ever in college except for whenever i missed kicks you know what i mean like i i did i was not on SportsCenter ever in college, except for whenever I missed kicks. You know what I mean?

Like, I was not like everybody else on every team that I had ever been on that had ever got on anything. ESPN tweets, a big fucking tweet. This is a big platform that a lot of people, I'm realizing with the game day, did not know I existed. So I thought this was a pretty cool thing. And then people check quote tweets. So then people check quote tweets, and then they see this guy burying me it's like oh okay the former punter of the university of fucking kentucky feels like he can say because he won a ray guy congratulations i was a finalist for that i get it i didn't win it yeah it's a shame

it's a shame i will forever be a nominee for the hall but i didn't win the ray guy no no what the fuck shut up like the fact that you know and then last night i was getting attacked by a lot of kentucky and sports radio people i got a i got a tweet from somebody i never heard say to you like what do you mean what can they say oh they found him i was hard yeah they were defending him and it was like i think because i was a bad host yesterday i didn't give the full context of like why i was burying this guy you know what I mean? I just buried this guy.

That's real heel. That's real heel. Not saying, hey, this is why I feel the way I feel. People thought that I just thought, oh, this guy in Kentucky, the one array guy, I don't like. Taking an unprovoked shot at him. Yeah, I think so. I think a lot of people are doing that in Kentucky. Maybe.

Like I said, when I went to Washington, who would I like? Kentucky. Indiana, Kentucky. And then Tennessee, Kentucky. It who would I like? Kentucky. Indiana, Kentucky. And then, you know, Tennessee, Kentucky. It's like I never understood why. And then I got a lot of tweets last night where I'm like, these people are saying pretty rude shit. But in their eyes, they think that I was taking an unprovoked shot at a guy

I think they liked a lot. So I think I was a bad host in doing that, which I apologize for. I do not apologize for taking a shot at that guy. Should have went harder yesterday. Should have did what I did today, yesterday. That is a tactical flaw on my end aj hawk okay well i don't know if we've seen the end of it or not but do you think it's part of his plan to try to get some pub to come after you i hope so and hope his podcast does well because the more punters that are popular the better to be honest but if you're fucking an asshole i hope it doesn't happen like

there's so many great australian punters that have come over to America that I've met that are fucking so cool, so appreciative, thankful, excited to do their thing. And then some guys make it to the NFL, some guys don't. And it's like, it's a whole conversation in the punting world. But that guy, fuck that guy. Fuck that guy. Let's move on. Anyways, Commander's Bears tomorrow, AJ. Okay?

Commander's Bears. Ron Rivera apologized to Carson Wentz. Did you hear this? Ron Rivera. In a team meeting or what? Yeah, I believe in front of everybody. He said, yesterday I was sitting at a press conference, and I was asked why everybody else in our conference is good, our division is good, but us.

Okay? That's what they asked. And I was so appalled by the question that I could only say one word, and I just literally, Carson, you see your front row. Quarterback. Quarterback. Quarterback. First thing I thought. And then I got into a whole give and take about it all.

We're all frustrated. All right, let's turn it around. Carson, I apologize that you were just the first person that popped in my head in that situation, and now we move on or whatever. And is that how it went down, you think, AJ? How does Ron Rivera address that? And can they get past it by tomorrow? Does this rally the team for tomorrow for a big win against the Bears, AJ?

I mean, Ron Rivera will be a master motivator if he can find a way to spin whatever was going on. Maybe I guess he could just say, hey, that's not how I meant it. It came out like that. I was frustrated just in how the team was doing, whatever. That's how it came out. That's not at all how I meant it. And he could try to explain to the team and to Carson what he was trying to say but i don't really know what you can really

say when you only give one word answer you only name one person daris we were talking about this earlier and the commanders fans hate that we talk about this but if we didn't talk about you guys you'd be pissed as well right so it's kind of uh people are talking about dude if you damned damned if you do double-edged sword. Lose, lose. Bam. All those things. As soon as we all heard it, we go, head coach can't be saying that about the quarterback.

Can't do it. That was your first response to it. Have we ever heard anything like this? Did you think back in your time of any time a coach has come out and just said, yeah, quarterback's terrible? I don't think it's ever happened. Honestly, that's why I think everybody's so alarmed and surprised by this.

I'm sure it's happened. I just can't think of one off the top of my head. But it was shocking even hearing it from Ron Rivera. You know, I was coached by him for a year. So it was just surprising you give that one word answer. When I first saw it, actually, I think it was a PFF tweet. I retweeted that. I'm like, there's no way.

Like, this had to be taken out of context. We thought it was a skit. It then went right into it. Somebody sent me to tag me on the video. Oh, no, it's actually worse. He threw it right, like, literally quarterback, and then the reporter had to follow up with some other questions. So you don't like that.

That's the quickest way to kind of, I guess, lose a locker room, especially because you know, okay, that seat's getting warm, and then you start pointing fingers. As a leader, even when it's not your fault, you put the bullshit and say, hey, it's on me. I got to do better. Defense can do better. All these other things.

And you look at Carson. I think he's top five passer in the league right now. And then the rest of the division. Don't look at the stats, man. You got Cooper Rush. You got Daniel Jones. So you look at that division. It's not like that's why the other guys are winning.

Jabba, hell. Listen, Jabba's looking at you sideways too right now. Nah, I fuck with Jabba. Stats don't lie, right? They do! Especially for Carl. Every single year. AJ, you hear me? They're on everybody's side all the time.

I can't take it anymore. Everybody has stats. Every side has stats. It's unbelievable. Carson, though, no more. There doesn't need to be any more Carson Wentz. He threw seven picks in one game last year. They were all dropped. So then at the end of the season, everybody's like, his touchdown interception ratio is unbelievable.

It's like, watch the game. Just watch the Fox. There's too much zip on the ball. The defenders can't handle it. Too much zip. Yeah, you're right. That's 100% the reason. But then whenever they need to be able to grip it somehow, they do.

So defenders can't get the grip on it all the time, but then it seems like they do. Not just for Carson. A lot of guys. Not just Carson. Not just Carson. But that's what's going around right now too. It's like, oh, Wentz has more passing touchdowns than Mahomes

and more passing yards than Stafford and all these people. But it's like, hey, it doesn't matter because a lot of the stuff that he does isn't stuff you can see on a statue. Stats definitely lie, but it's hard for you to give a one-word answer and say quarterback. I agree. When a guy is top five in passing. You know what I mean?

1,000%. So that's my only point. Because he could have said, to your point of being a good leader, he could be like when they say, how come you guys haven't won? And I figured it out. He goes, well, we got it all positioned. You know, quarterback threw for 348 yesterday. He had a touchdown.

We had a chance to win that game. We just weren't able to do it. And defense has, you know, Chase is coming back and there's other stuff. Like he could have given an answer. A lot of it, yeah. He could have utilized Carson's positives because his job is to lift up. He's the head coach of the football team. It is to lift up and boost your players. He could have gave the clichés that we hate to hear, right,

and pumped them up big time and done what we think head coaches normally do and support their team, even though behind closed doors, he probably is wearing thin a little bit and kind of frustrated. But instead, you know, we go all bad day, wrong or rare. Well, and I think to your point yesterday, you said bad day. Had a bad day. Sorry about that. You said, you know, like, hey, if the head coach is saying stuff like this and what we've already heard about Carson in the past, where it's like he's really not that tight with, you know, people in the locker room.

We don't know if that's true, but all that stuff. That's all been alluded to. Exactly. So it's like, well, when your head coach is already taking shots at a guy six weeks into the season, like, how's the fucking team going to respond when you come in the next day? Long season. Head coach hates your guts. Why should I fucking have any confidence?

12 more weeks. Remember, GM, first day of training camp for the Minnesota Vikings. Kirk Cousins is a terrible quarterback, basically. Didn't say that. I've got to make sure I get things right here. Kind of said that. We all got one of the great quarterbacks. The NFL has a lot of good players.

They have a couple of great players. Our guy's not one of those. He's okay. He's below good. We just gave him another deal, fully guaranteed. Great deal. It's the first day of training camp. It's my first day as general manager of an NFL team in training camp.

Our quarterback, not Pat, Aaron, Tom, you know, those guys you know that win Super Bowls and stuff. But we'll make it. We'll try. They've come back. Yeah. And I assume the GM and Kirk have become boys. Sure.

I assume that entire building has been together. So I think to Darius's point, this is a long season. Maybe this is when Carson decides it's time for me to be the best quarterback I can be so that whenever the coach is having a bad day, his first thought isn't me. You know, let's let him blame the fucking offensive line at least. Maybe that's how Carson will view it because the hunting season is right around the corner, and you don't want to go in the hunting season with bad

vibes because just like manifestation, you go into the woods with bad vibes. Guess what? You can wear all the goddamn orange and camouflage you want. They're going to smell that negativity, and you've got no shot of killing any deer out there. I also think there's a chance that Carson didn't even see this clip or hear this clip because all he's thinking about is fucking putting that new gravel down in his driveway with his bobcat right when he gets home from work you know i mean he he might not even you know like ron may have said something

to him and he might have been like well shucks coach that's news to me i didn't if you wouldn't tell me i would never know if you never told me, I'd never known. He actually did say that. It's fucking harvest right now, Coach. Yeah. What do you think? Coach, I got a new fucking bobcat at home, okay? I had no idea. I'm watching film.

I'm laying seed. I'm doing all that. You said what about? You said I stunk? No, he's probably taking out of context, Coach. Don't worry about it, Coach. Coach is like, no, I actually. No, I said you fucking stink.

I said you're the problem. They'll get past it. Don't worry about it, Coach. Don't worry about it, Coach. Is it like, no, I actually – No, I said you fucking stink. I said you're the problem. They'll get past it. Don't worry about it, Coach. Don't worry about it, Coach. Is it possible Ron Rivera is a John Deere guy and that's what the real problem is? There's a chance. Anyone with the clue is a John Deere guy, so that could be it. No, no, because Tone said, to quote the great Ron Rivera,

and the internet is telling him, you disgusting cowboy hat wearing pig. That's what they're saying right now. I've noticed it has a lot to do with politics. I don't know anything about Ron and his politics. I don't know if it has something to do with AJ's birthday or not. I thought you were talking about the offensive or defensive coordinator for Washington. That's what it has to do with politics.

Oh, okay. They're tied together. The team is in D.C. Of course there's politics involved. Jack Del Rio. He has his thoughts. Defensive coordinator. Defensive coordinator is celebrating AJ's birthday. Oh, Del Rio. I forgot he's over there. Yeah. Jack Del Rio. He and his thoughts. Defensive coordinator. Defensive coordinator

to celebrate AJ's birthday. Oh, Del Rio. I forgot he's over there. Yeah. Mine dust up. Jack Del dust up. AJ's birthday a little too hard.

That's a tough way to start a season as well. Dealing with a full political scandal. Yeah, it is. Will the commanders ever win? Who knows?

Definitely not. New name, same outcome it seems like. Might have new ownership. Who knows? That's been reported on the internet multiple times. I've seen so many memes. It's not even going nowhere.

Well, the memes on the internet are telling us that the other NFL owners are potentially, because I guess, remember, we've talked about this numerous times with the first expose, second expose, third expose, fourth expose, law break, Ponzi scheme, house oversight committee, emails, poop pipes, gates falling. Papa John. The whole thing. Sean Taylor.

Every time we've talked about all these things that have only happened, not Sean Taylor, but the other stuff in the recent history here, we've talked to Rappaport and we've talked to other people who are like, can the other NFL owners say, hey, we don't want to do business with you anymore? And there actually is, I guess, a rule in there that they can vote an owner out if they feel as if, you know, it's called for or whatever. So we've always said, like, if he doesn't get it for this, if he doesn't get it for this, and he never has.

But reports now are saying that they might think about doing it, but what the fuck does that even mean? How come he's allowed to be at Jerry World, but other billionaires have to go hide in Venezuela? What are you talking about? That obviously was something. Which billionaire was hiding in Venezuela? I think your great uncle.

Oh, you're talking about? Great Uncle Ron McAfee was hiding in Venezuela. You're talking about John McAfee. John McAfee was hiding in Venezuela. He's still out there. He's in Bolivia. What if he is? You watch that doc, me too.

That doc is scary. He was living on a boat with guns and dogs and multiple people. Yeah, multiple German shepherds, 100 guns or something like that. A lot of booze. A lot of booze on there. Just on the run. And he shows up on land in Venezuela, and they're like, you can't come here. What are you guys doing?

What are you doing? You can't show up with 100 guns and a bunch of—what are you doing? Then he goes to jail. Then he pays himself, gets out of jail, gets in the boat again. He's fucking somewhere else. This guy is amazing. He's filming himself. He's got his videographer filming him smoking a cig like in a nice scene inside a jail cell somewhere, I think, in Venezuela.

And he got a documentary crew to film his documentary crew. Genius. Wait, what is this on? John, uh... Netflix, right? I think it's Netflix. Yeah. It's John McAfee.

I'm not related, but some of the decisions this guy makes. Yeah. He's been through some goddamn McAfee family tree. He's got some wild seeds down there. It seems like he is a maniac. I was just saying, Dan was out running a subpoenaena and now he's just in Jerry World a couple weeks ago. I was there. I was interested. Did they find him? Because remember, he had his

pockets taped and he had duct tape around his hands. Right. So when they tried to subpoena him, couldn't stick to him. He never saw it. They said, we delivered a subpoena and Dan Snyder's like, when? Where? How? I didn't get it. Then he went to Napoleon's Island. Yes.

Napoleon's home island. Bonaparte. Yes. Went there with his yacht, parked out, skipped the house oversight committee. Yes. Then he got summoned again, and I think he did it via Zoom, right? Yes. And that one wasn't closed.

Closed door. Yeah, it was closed door. Nothing happened. So he ended up winning, and then he goes to a game in Jerry World and just does his thing. So that guy is a maniac. He's a cockroach. You cannot kill he survived i mean he survived the me too like movement you know taxes like it's a lot of shit he's still he's got to have a lot of shit on a

lot of people oh that's why he went to dallas because jerry remember he told papa john him and jerry were on the same email chain there Hey, Papa, we need you to get Roger Goodell fired immediately. The Cowboys are famous for. What's that? And he loves cheerleaders. All right, let's move on. Jerome Boger, okay, will be officiating the. What's that, AJ? He loves what?

The Segway. He loves cheerleaders. Oh, cheerleaders. You're thinking he has photos or something of Jerry's? Well, that's what he was doing with his team. Anyways. Oh, Jesus Christ. There is a chance.

Come on, Tone. That that's real life. But also, I wonder when and if they'll ever do that. And how about expansion teams? How do they go about who's going to own those teams? Because they're allegedly starting a division in Europe in 2025, I believe believe there's a delta plane that's supposed to be the Concord that's able to get from New York to London in four hours or something like that so when that happens everybody's assuming there's going to be an NFL expansion because when Jim Irsay was on our show we asked

him about expansion of the program and he said well Concorde was supposed to get us from New York to London in like four hours. And then that stopped happening. And then the world got much further away. And the moon is 80,000 miles away. The Mars, 250,000 miles away. So whatever you're talking, and I think you'll get there once in your lifetime, Pat, not me. So he was talking about expansion and growing and distance kind of being the issue, not so much the fan base.

So I think him alluding to that with the thought that there's another super jet coming in, I think that is, you know, maybe playing together. Roger Goodell leaking this a couple years beforehand is normally a bureaucracy. The NFL really slow to kind of move through anything. A lot of people have to pass on. Seems like it's normally a bureaucracy the nfl really slow to kind of move through anything a lot of people have to pass on seems like it's already been a conversation and good for the nfl good for europe but how do you figure out who the fuck owns those teams aj you know how do you figure out who owns them and how do you figure out like how do you how are the rosters made up do you do like the nhl don't they have like when they have an expansion team they have an expansion draft

you have to like protect certain players and some players are not protected well we see something like that yeah and you have to have a home base some players are not protected. Well, we see something like that. Yeah, and you have to have a home base back here. How do you work players out? And do we pay them more for traveling and living over there? All those logistics seem crazy to try to figure out. How do you play a full season? All of it is just going to be tough.

Add two rounds to the draft. A lot of money. A lot of money. Hey, AJ, you saw that Tottenham Stadium? Pretty nice. Packed, though. Yeah. of money. Hey, AJ, you saw that Tottenham Stadium? Pretty nice. Packed, though. Yeah. Packed.

Filled up. Every game over there, filled up. Munich, Germany, what they had, like 17 million people trying to get 70,000 tickets. In the first six minutes. Yeah. Well, I think it was also a lot of ticket people trying to scam people and shit like that. But the amount of, it wasn't 17 million. It was 500,000.

Yeah, 570,000 or something like that. It was an absurd amount of money. 5X, 10X, whatever it was. The amount of people, I mean, to get in there. So the want is there. How would it work? I'm happy I'm not in the NFL.

I'm happy we're talking about it. We talk about these England games, like they're cool. When we went and did it, it was terrible. Fucking hated it. Everybody hated it. Everybody hated it afterwards, hated it beforehand.

Aaron right now and them are dealing with it. They didn't have a bye week. We didn't either. Like Monday, we're trying to figure it out. Tuesday, we're still trying to get back into it. It's just a complete kick to the nuts of your entire routine, which is what an NFL season is, Groundhog's Day. It's nice.

It's not nice. It's a logistical nightmare, whatever. It's a cool experience, but I'm happy I'm not playing in it. How would it work, you think, with people living over there, D? But I do – you'd have a home base, you think, where people would work out? And would that be where the office is, you think? How do you think it works, Darius? You'd have to have something over here.

But what he said, is it going to be four teams? So you're going to have four new teams at the same time? I think so, yeah. I feel like you'd definitely have to expand the draft. How did they do it when the Panthers came into it? Panthers and Jags? Well, with the Texans, I think they did do the same type of thing where a certain amount of guys on each team,

the Texans basically just got them, and then they obviously got the first pick in the draft. So, Nick, I don't want to cut you off, Ty. You might get to it. Are you going to talk about a supplemental draft right now? Is that what that is? No, I don't think so, but I assume that's part of it. So, what is it, Nick, in and hockey whenever they have an expansion hockey's

done this a lot you like can offer up like every team has to offer up like five guys or something yeah they offer protect certain players yeah there's a protection list and it's any combination of something like seven forwards three defensemen and one goalie then the rest of your players are exposed unless they're like entry-level contracts which are rookies who were just drafted or have only played like two or three years or so. You know, Brant Boyer, special teams coordinator right now for the jets.

I'm happy they're having success for that guy. Zach is back. Hell yeah. Zach is back. But Brant Boyer was a special, a special teams ace back whenever it was like, Hey, run your face into a wedge.

12 years. That guy. Stud dude. We're talking AJ. You would love Brant Boyer. Back when like Larry Izzo wedge. 12 years, that guy. Stud, dude. We're talking, AJ, you would love Brant Boyer. Back when Larry Izzo was doing it? Like that era? Yeah, 12 years. He is flying right into the...

Concrete head and absolute more courage than anybody. Four-man wedges. Stacked on top of each other. They had wedges on top of each other, so if you hit it, they would fall into the other wedge. So there was not... I mean, it was insane. Go make a pile. It was my first kickoff in the NFL regular season game.

I'm like, holy fuck, we're kicking off from the 30, so there's really limited touchbacks. Like, hey, we're going to get some collisions. Hey, we are, we're going to get some collisions. He was playing during that era. Like, badass dude. Guys trying to kill each other. Yeah, it is.

We do not care about anything. But he was with the Browns, I think. And then he got offered up to the Jags expansion team. He was up in the thing, so he ended up going down there. They just kind of, they like, that would be an interesting, I think, if I recall his, we were talking about it one morning because we were talking about the expansion shit. I don't know how it would work because I think London was supposed to get the Jags, so it wouldn't have been a thing for a long time.

Like the Jags are just going to become a London team. So we still have 32 teams. They'll do all their home games for like the first half of the season, and then they'll fly back, and then they'll have a home base in probably Jacksonville and just have all-away games for like the last half of the season. That was always kind of like the conversation. But expansion-wise, I think every team has to offer up guys. That would be hilarious just out of nowhere.

Some guys turn it down. What if some old guys are unprotected and they're sitting there and they may want to play another year or two and they realize they've got to go overseas somewhere like that? I'm good. I bet we have a couple of people pull out for sure. So I'm living in – somebody's got a phone call. Is that somebody getting called to the expansion?

Darius Butler, congrats. You're on. Yes. I'm going to go to Dusseldorf. Yeah. That's what I'm doing. No, but that is like just sitting in Indianapolis. You're on the Colt.

You're like number 25 on the roster, 26 on the roster. I guess that was – Backup linebacker or something. Oh, man. Got a family. Probably played five, six years. You're a special teams guy, just kind of doing your thing.

You've been offered up for the expansion draft. What does that mean? Well, any of these four teams in Europe can pick you. There's only enough players going into the expansion draft for everybody to get picked. You're going to Europe, dude.

We don't know which one, but it's either in London or Germany or Ireland. It's going to happen. Because in college, everybody just kind of appreciates and respects the draft. In Florida, you used to have that big run where it's like, it's the only profession where you get drafted and you have no choice. Like, hey, congratulations, you're moving to this thing. But we're lucky to do it.

You get lucky to get drafted, get an opportunity to have a job, and there's a lot of jobs that you have to travel for. So there's a lot of high-paying jobs that you have to travel for. But there is something to be said about not being able to pick. Imagine being 29, 30 years old, having an old thing. It's just like all of a sudden I'm in London now. All right, sweet. You get to be there, though, remember? You get to beondon admiral or whatever the hell you're gonna be you don't

have to it's like well i i wasn't thinking i was gonna be a fuck but yeah well you're right though they got to be laying the groundwork now for if they're if they do plan on doing this like talking to potential owners right all the people out there that would put a group together and want to own one of these teams and it would be european owners, I would assume, right? It would have to be, right? It would have to. You'd want them to have, like, a little bit of – Like soccer clubs. Take pride in their hometown team or whatever.

Yeah, unless it's going to be like Wrexham. Yeah, sure. Ryan Reynolds. Half the EPL is now owned by Americans. Well, and – Shout out. Sorry about it. Yeah, that's right.

Well, they're trying to push those fuckers out. That would be tough, man. Or if you're one of those players who, like, you know, get cut and back on the team, get cut. Like, imagine going from Europe back to Atlanta, back to Europe. Yeah, because there's guys that get signed on a Friday. Yeah. And then they are cut on a Monday. Yeah.

And then they're brought back that next Thursday or Friday or Saturday. Even fucking, yes, Saturday guys getting signed. Hey, you flying to you? Hey, expand the game. How do you do camp? You do camp over there? You do preseason games? How does that work, too?

You would have to do it in America, right? You would have to have a base at home, I think, here in America. I think you would have to. Yeah. Because the amount of people that are moving. And then at the end of camp, congrats, guys. Let's go take the old flight. Don't worry.

Those four-hour flights aren't here yet. We've got an 11-hour. Have fun. I think they're waiting for those flights. Now we'll – Hopefully that works out. Hey, will practice squad guys that are getting signed to practice squad get the four-hour flights, or will they get the –

Oh, no. Yeah, teams are not getting four-hour flights. You know what I mean? Hey, you're flying, coach. You're actually standing up. You have to stand up the whole time. Maybe a cargo ship. You've got to beat a guinea pig for the Concorde flight.

What's that, Val? You've got to beat a guinea pig for the new flights. Let's assume those are happening already. Let's hope. To AJ's point, do you think by the time that happens, preseason might be done? And by the time they add four teams, there won't be – there'll be two games, there'll be no games,

and there'll be 18 games in a season? I think there always will have to be at least two preseason games, I think, because it's like a chance to see – I don't think players, starters should be in those games at all. I think that's going to whittle away quickly. That seems to be something that is. Already has. We're playing guys, we're playing guys, we're playing guys.

We're not playing fucking anybody except for Josh Jacobs. Right. Some of the better teams that started out better this year played their guys. Not week one, though, right? Not week four? They played their guys as starters, and like Rams didn't play their starters. I don't know.

It depends on the coach, I think. You like preseason or no? No, I hate it. I like getting a few reps, you know, just going through a routine, getting a couple series, getting the calls. So I don't mind it, but, you know, you get out of there once you get kind of the mechanics.

What if they just completely change the entire system? And in my head, I just thought of this, so i'm sure there's going to be a lot of holes to pick through it but why don't they have one preseason game for like your guys you know your team like hey get the reps let's do the warm-up yeah let's do the whole thing let's figure it out let's play like it's preseason game and then there's like a pool games that takes place where like hey these are our bubble guys these guys are going to play their bubble guys are going to play like it's just like a showcase game almost for you know the bottom end of the rosters so guys like can't play guys that are already locked in now gms and coaches

will ruin that but i think you could use it as an extra like opportunity to look at guys from other teams and you can have your team guys. I think if it's locked in for that, nobody would do it, and I think players would agree to it. You know what I mean? Yeah, I guess I wonder how many players would that be, and what if you pulled all the players? What if every team? I don't know.

You can't say that. What if you had like 10 guys you put out in the bottom of your roster at the end of the preseason, and you put all of them together, and then they make up two teams, and they play against each other. That would be sick. Here we go. Mark this. It's like the Senior Bowl almost, but it's at the end of training camp.

There's two weeks off. All the guys that are bubble guys for teams. How pissed would you be if you went from starter to bubble guy and all of a sudden you're in that game? Better ball out. Who are you going to ball out with? Yeah.

A guy you never played football with before? Like your coach is just pissed at you, and he puts you in the bubble game. Hey, that's going to be a threat in OTSM. You stop. You guys don't run to the ball. You're going to the bubble game. So you get two preseason games for every team, and then you've got the bubble bowl, which is the last week,

which is people that aren't on teams anymore, and that's for that week in between the cuts. The guys would be juiced for that game. It's like an extra opportunity for the guys that just got cut or whatever. But then guys like Russ Wilson, who won all the reps, might volunteer to go play quarterback for one of the squads in that game because they're always working. Russ is not playing in a bubble.

He didn't play at all in this preseason. Rustin probably should have been a new system. I looked into the Texans expansion draft. Okay, here we go. Each team had to put up five players for an expansion draft. That was a month before the regular draft. You couldn't have a punter or kicker as one of your five players. And the five players couldn't be someone who was going to be

an unrestricted free agent the next year. A lot of teams use it as a salary cap dump. Anyone who they thought was old and maybe they wanted to get rid of their salary, a lot of people put those five players up. Texans had to draft 30 players from the 150-player pool or 27.2 million in salary, which was about 40% of the salary at the time. So those were the rules pretty much for the expansion draft. So I couldn't put Matt Ryan up.

Literally, as you were laying out the rules, I didn't listen to all the rules because Squirrel, I thought about Matt Ryan getting put into the expansion. Is he going to be on a restricted free agent next year? You can't make four teams out of that, though. No, he's going to be a cut next year. Well, this was just one team. I think they'd have to adjust.

Yeah, probably 10 guys. I guess they would want to dump, but you're right, it would be a salary cap dump. Every GM would be like, thank God. Congrats. Congrats to the Dusseldorf Dragons. Guys that normally get cut. Matt Ryan.

Matt Ryan is starting to court. No offense, Matt. You're going to turn around. Hey, you're going to turn around. Let's go, Matty. Long season. We've got an expansion draft coming, though, so think about that. That's why they also give them the number one pick then, right? Correct. So then hopefully there's a young, good quarterback that they can draft as opposed to having to –

Unfortunately, it was – What if it's the first pick, though? If there's 14. Well, that's why I don't know if they'd be able to do it all at the same time because whoever gets, like, the fourth pick, it's like, that team's going to stink. Yeah, but how awesome would it be if 15 quarterbacks ended up in the expansion? That would be sweet.

No, we don't want to pay these fucking guys. Sure, we might. Here we go. Here's a wide receiver that you guys can afford three of the players from the expansion. Here's Kenny Galladay coming in with a $30 million hit cap it. Matt Ryan's coming in with a $43 million cap it. Here's Jared Goff, another $40 million cap it. Jimmy probably would have been in there this year.

Jimmy Garoppolo going in there. These teams are like, 25, 43. We can't even. What are we supposed to do? We got stars everywhere yesterday, but fuck, we can't pay. How would that work? Do they get a higher salary cap? There was 25 Pro Bowlers that were in that expansion draft.

Yeah, so probably exactly what we're talking about. Oh, good way to rebuild a whole team. Fucking reset the contracts. To your point, Pat, when that happened in hockey with the Vegas team, one of the reasons they were so good coming out, too, was they were incentivized to take certain players. They were offered draft picks by the teams giving away players like,

hey, we got a heavy-loaded contract here. If you take this guy, we'll also throw a pick to you guys for getting him off our books. Yeah, and that's what they did with Marc-Andre Fleury. Well, and they also said, hey, we don't care what happens. Give us fucking Stoner and we'll be good. Yep. Yeah, and that's what they did with Marc-Andre Fleury. Well, and they also said, hey, we don't care what happens. Give us fucking Stoner and we'll be good. Yep. And lo and behold.

Did you hear what the Golden Knights did last night, AJ? I did not see it. What happened? Well, every single Golden Knight that Ty said yesterday scored. Ty might be a hockey prognosticator at this point. I said it. Hey, Stoner's got the cement out of his skate. So the fucking NHL is on notice right now. Walker, yeah. A is looking he's he had pocket aces last night let's just say that

wild bill wild bill cut his hair he looks so goddamn fast on the ice it's unbelievable how'd he do he scored a goal what no wild bill aces and stoner game winner 25 seconds left in in the third period. Looked fast. Looked so fast. No cement in the skates anymore. Let's just say you could, I mean, there's really no point. I know we're one game in. There's no point in playing the rest of the season. The Golden Knights will be hoisting Lord Stanley's Cup.

Nah, because the Pittsburgh Penguins are going to be doing it. We haven't even started yet. We play tomorrow against the bum-ass, bum-ass team. You know who I'm talking about. Yeah, the Flyers. And whenever we get on. No, the Oats. You guys got the Coyotes. Oh, yeah, the talking about. Yeah, the Flyers. And whenever we get on. No, the Oats. You guys got the Coyotes.

Oh, yeah, the bankrupt team. Yeah. Pens are about to do what nobody's ever done in hockey. So everybody needs to go ahead and tune in to what's going on with the Pittsburgh Penguins this season. First NHL team to ever go completely undefeated. Wow. 82-0. Starts tomorrow.

Holy shit. Pittsburgh Penguins are doing that. Hell, yeah. Darius, I know You're a big hockey guy You're a caniac aren't you You're getting a chance To witness that You're a panther

Come on now You know South Florida We won our first Playoff series Oh here we go Yeah they got Ass kicked by the Lightning but you know

Yeah the Lightning Were a wagon though Go Boach Build a step Nick told me We should be good This year Yeah okay

No you knew that though You're a big hockey guy Just like Ty knows A lot more players on that team than those three guys. That's right. Fucking do I need to talk about Max Pacioretty, which they may have actually gotten rid of him. Yeah, they traded him. Yeah, Alex Pietrangelo had fucking two apples last night.

He's a great player, too. He's a huge hockey guy. Good luck to all the hockey players. AJ's current Twitter profile pic is him dumping Lord Stanley right into the mouth of Jack Johnson after he won with the Colorado Avalanche. Great photo. It's a great photo with a great tweet from last night. Spoiler alert, says AJ on.

Spoiler alert. Tyvus Powell says, if you broke your right foot, do you think that you'd be able to drive with your left foot? Now, this is not what AJ does. AJ drives with both feet. The question was, if you had no right foot, only driving with one foot, could you do with your left foot? AJ, spoiler alert. Yes, if you have an ounce of athleticism. AJ, did you think that he was talking about driving with both feet, or did you understand the question here, and you just think the answer remains the same? I understood the question. I love Tyvus.

He is a great dude. I know him well. No, I understood exactly what he's saying. It would not be fun to drive just left-footed, but you could absolutely do it. What about driving just right-footed? Oh, no way. I mean, that's just stupid, but yeah.

You drive two feet, one foot? No, one foot. Nah, one foot. Yeah, because you're a human. That's a Tyvus question. Did Tyvus play with the Colts? When? I think you were there. I'm pretty sure you were there.

I don't know what year it was, though. You sure? Yeah, I think that was it. Tyvus, good guy. Great guy. Great team. Ohio State guy, right? Yeah, that's, I think, where he goes.

Oh, jeez. Was he a good guy, then? Is he your team? Was he on your team? No, he's much younger than me. But I met him through everything, you know. I don't remember Tyvus. Tyvus seems like a great guy.

Great question. Anybody that's pontificating those things on Twitter, I'm a fucking fan of. He was probably running down there and pointing for you. No. You don't even remember him. No, I would. Tyvus, I appreciate you. Tyvus, I appreciate you.

Isn't Mitt doing that right now? What? What? Driving with his left foot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he is. Mitt has an ounce of athleticism, though, don't you? Hey, Mitt, you driving left Mitt doing that right now? What? What? Driving with his left foot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he is. Mitt has an ounce of athleticism, though, don't you? Hey, Mitt, you driving left-footed right now? He's dialed in.

He's coded in. Yeah, he said, yeah. Yeah, he's driving a Mustang left-footed. There's some sort of weird fur stuck in his grill. He, I don't know, he hit something. Yeah, he said he damn near demolished a deer the other night. This was like, I don't know, I think he hit a furry or something. It's hard to get to the break with your left foot, dude.

He was also going 150, so he just obliterated this guy. Can't have that. Hey, stop speeding. Don't do that. Didn't the semi almost take his door off and almost take him with it? That was not his fault. That was a while ago. Mitt was parked in a very okay parking spot with a very okay

parking job, and a truck was pulling down a road that he spot with a very okay parking job. And a truck was pulling down a road that he probably shouldn't have been turning down. It's a tight road. And Mitt was there with the door. And old buddy just took his door off. Hey, the truck's coming through. Basically. Sorry about it.

Boom. And then the truck driver had the audacity to get out and motherfuck Mitt like it was his fault. We're all away. What the fuck, man? Bro, I paid the thing. Bro. Mitt, man? I paid the thing. Mitt, we're happy you're not, but we're happy you survived that. Happy you're back, Mitt. Happy you're back, Mitt.

Jerome Boger will referee the Jaguars Colts game. Okay. First, my reaction was, come on. I actually did the liar, liar, Jim Carrey, oh, come on, which is a great gif on the internet. Spoiler alert alert if you're going to start dialing in on twitter like i think you should because you were built for it i was a little bit alarmed by that but then you dive into the analytics at jerome bugger's game sounds like it's a great day to be a colt yeah adam lefkoe bleacher report please don't take us down we apologize bleacher report please please adam lefkoe bleacher report we take us down. We apologize, Bleacher Report. Please. Please.

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With that being said, Lefkoe also works for Turner. Oh, I think that is Bleacher Report. Yeah, same thing. So, Turner, I watched TBS last night. Costas was calling a game. Didn't expect that. That was a nice little treat. Turner, respect you.

A lot of respect. Pink eye guy. He did. He did at one point have pink eye. In Sochi. That's what he's remembered for. That was an Olympic pink eye. That's right.

Olympic pink eye. And he powered through. Remember, that's what Costas does for. That was an Olympic pink guy. That's right. Olympic pink guy. And he powered through. Remember, that's what Costas says. Is he normally calling baseball? Yeah, he does call a lot of baseball games, yeah. Really? Yeah. Because I only watch the bigger games.

Sure. Costas? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I didn't know this either. He just started back doing it again, right? Well, he came up doing that, though. When?

When you weren't alive? He definitely, like, you texted me last night. I don't think he's done a playoff baseball game. At least I can't remember in, like, the last 10 years or so, probably. I turned on Apple. Who is he doing Apple? I don't think he'd be on. Katie Nolan.

Yeah, their booth is locked in. So I go like this. I turn the game on. God, this game's fucking slow, right? Nothing happens for, like, the first 30 seconds. Nobody's even saying anything, and it's pretty quiet. So then the voice pops on. I'm like's costas i know that guy so that's when i text you and then he just shot in the booth it's fucking costas i have no idea that he 20 years

since he's done a full postseason mlb series there we go i love the reaction i got from ty and digs when i asked if costas was calling the fuck yeah he always calls 20 fucking years i know greenies that's greeny's hero. And Greeny loves MLB and wants to be the commissioner and he loves Costas because he listened to Costas calling MLB growing up. He does games on MLB Network during the season, but yeah, he hasn't done that. I haven't heard him do the playoffs in, I mean, 20 years.

So a lot of the world being introduced to Costas playing baseball or calling baseball for the first time last time? Yeah, for sure. Okay, I felt like a fucking idiot. I was like, I didn't know Costas was calling baseball. I thought it was pretty good. Different style. Different style than I think I've heard in the past.

Good game. Yeah. Going for it, Yanks. Wish we could have got seven runs in. Was he able to fit his horse in the booth? What's that? The horse that he rides. It's very tall and very high.

I didn't know if he was able to get it into the booth. I didn't see, but I do think he was at Yankee Stadium, right? Yeah. So I think he was. It's a big booth. I think he was. He got in there. I think he was talking down into the booth. I didn't see, but I do think he was at Yankee Stadium, right? Yeah. So I think he was. Big booth. I think he was. He got in there. I think he was talking down into the mic. Joking, Costas. You're changing the world. We know it.

Who was in the booth with him? Ron Darling. Of course. What a darling. Yeah, he's a sweetheart of baseball. Nonetheless, I was surprised you... Costas interviewed Vince McMahon a while back. Yeah, it went well. I think I was surprised. Costas interviewed Vince McMahon a while back. Yeah, it went well. I think I saw that clip whenever, you know, I was about to talk to Vince McMahon.

Yep. A lot of people were texting me saying, hey, this, is this what's. Check it out. This is what it is. But I was, you know, I was watching the game. I was surprised by Costas. Welcome back to baseball. Yeah. You go, Bob.

Yeah, you go, Bob. Anyways, Turner owns that. I didn't know Costas worked for Turner. I guess he's doing TBS games for him. Lefkoe of Bleacher Report. We are fans of Lefkoe. We don't want to start any shit here from Bleacher Report. We're just reading a tweet.

That's right. Just reading a tweet. That's all. That's it. A Lefkoe tweet. Mm-hmm. Not from Bleacher Report. Well, he...

By way. By way. By way. Adam Lefkoe, by way of Bleacher Report and Turner. Yeah, so kind of. So we don't want to step on any toes, though. Yeah. He posts that since 2016, home favorites in divisional games with Jerome Boger are 18-3 on the money line.

Okay, that's 86%. We like that. In the same 21 divisional games, home teams are 12, 7, and 2 against the spread. We like that. Home favorites of seven points or more in that 21 game span are 4, 2, and 1 against the spread. Divisional game totals with Boger officiating are 19 and 14 to the over since 2016. Jerome Boger has officiated four Buccaneers games in the Brady era. Tampa Bay is averaging 32 and a half points per game at home. That increased to 35.5 points or whatever.

So, I don't know about that last night with Tom Brady and the Grady Jarrett situation obviously leading to this research. Colts are winning this weekend. Let's go. Lock it in. Lock it in against the spread and money line. 64%. That's as good as 100% in a lot of cases.

Fucking Colts are undefeated this weekend. Chuck's hitting the anvil before the game. What? Oh, yeah. Chuck Pagano is fucking. You know that. He's fucking going to bring that. Yeah.

He is, isn't he? Hell, yeah. Hell, yeah. Chuck's going to bring that. Didn't do a let's go. Who knows where they got him? He should stop by the suite. I'd love to have you, Chuck. Hell, yeah. Chuck's going to bring that thing. Didn't do a let's go. Who knows where they got him? He should stop by the suite. I'd love to have you, Chuck.

We'll tell him that tomorrow when he gets into town. Colts are locked this weekend. That's what I just read. Darius, you feel the same way? Feel the same way. How's JT doing? Taylor's back at practice? Is injury still out?

What's going on? AJ, how do you feel about Colts? I don't need those types of questions. I don't need Taylor. I feel great about it. What if Jerome self-scouts and he sees this tweet? He will. I don't think he's the type of guy to do that. He wants to change it up a little bit. Yeah, he doesn't. What if Jerome self-scouts and he sees this tweet? He will. I don't think he's the type of guy to do that.

You think Jerome Boger's changing? He ain't changed for anybody. I think you're safe, too, because if you look at the sack that Brady got, you know, the roughing the passer call on, I feel like Matt Ryan's been sacked like that 150 times this year, like exactly the same way where he just gets ragdolled and kind of gets thrown around. Yeah, the ball's probably flying. Yeah, balls probably flying.

Yeah, I think you can expect seven, eight, nine, ten roughing the passer calls this weekend. He's had ten fumbles. He has. That's not a good staff record, Beck. Ten fumbles, four and a half games. Five. Yeah.

How many has he lost? What the hell are we doing? Four, three, four. And he's thrown what? Five or six picks? Yeah, he's on pace to slaughter the fumble record. Are any of those like really poor condition games? Like hard rain or anything else?

It was windy. It was real windy. I was in there. It was super windy. Roof was open when he played at Lucas Hill. Sun was swirling. Yeah, it was swirling. Sun was bright.

And you talk about the sun on the ball, you know what I mean? I mean, you get hit a little bit. Yeah, it leather up a little bit yeah yeah he's like he likes that ball real slick too like a k ball so maybe just pull a little bit more grip on that thing so whenever you're getting buying every other play can we not call plays though for that not to happen isn't that something that can happen from a play calling situation can we not get creative with it can we not fucking get the ball out of his hands quick? How come every time they say, and you're not a quarterback Darius, so, but I would like you to answer this question. How come they say like, you know, some quarterbacks are able to help their offensive line and some quarterbacks aren't. How come they talk about

some plays like Ben Roethlisberger, for instance, when he was with the Steelers, that ball was getting out as quick as possible in the depth of the routes were the shortest in the history, like the NFL or something like that, because they thought they had a bad offensive line. Is that something that you can adjust to and make happen? Like, can Frank Reich and Matt Ryan make the offensive line better by the plays that they're calling, or are we fucked completely? You can try to help it, but then you give up.

Everybody's going to play you aggressive and play everything short, jump shit, and then at some point you're going to have to drive the ball down the field. It's going to be a third and seven, a third and nine. It's going to be a situation. So I don't care what you call. Your O-line got to figure it out. You got to communicate, get on the same page. And they haven't been close to that.

And they did a whole different O-line group this past Thursday, which didn't look good, left tackle struggle. But, man, it's been tough. Regardless if you're getting hit, though, you got to hold on to the ball. Like you got to hold on to the ball. When he walked into the office, he brought beers. What? Which is very cool.

Super cool. Good indicator. It is a good indicator. He likes John Deere. What? Also a good indicator. Very good. Huge.

But as soon as he walked out of there, oh, negative Nick. You remember what he said? Yeah. That's a frail-looking guy. He did say that. I said, Nick, relax, fatso. The guy is in great shape. He goes, he looked thin. Yeah. That's a frail-looking guy. He didn't say that. I said, Nick, relax, fatso. The guy is in great shape. He goes, he looked thin.

Yeah. And he did, by the way. But then you start looking at some photos of him in pads, and then years pass, he's always remained healthy. He's always been kind of a thinner, you know, super lean build. But that might be something he wasn't expecting, getting hit every other drop back, AJ. I mean, that's something that probably can add up on you.

He's a tough son of a bitch too, but he's been getting hit a lot. A lot. And he can't have any confidence taking any kind of drop back. There's no way he's super confident in having the amount of time to let those deep developing routes even get there. He's reading a play call.

Alright, we're going spider... seven stud drops. Spider two wide banana, alright. Right. Here we go, fuckin'. That weighs on your mental. That guy's gonna hit you right in the spot. Oh shit.

One, two, three. One, two, three. Hitch. Boom. I knew it. I fucking knew it. I fucking knew it. As he's calling the play. Frank Reich, let's do 24, 24.

Amen. No, no. Have you seen? No, no, no. It is fucking third and eight. Yeah. Third and eight. I don't care.

We're going to run. Draw. I can't hear you. Sorry. Hey, JT. You got this. Good luck. See?

That could happen. Yeah. It's not yet. No. Early in the season. No. Early in the season. We're not there yet.

Super early. A lot of years. Barely even October. If he's expecting it, just hold on to the goddamn ball. Well, I think that's. Squeeze that day. He's like waiting, waiting, waiting. And then when he's expecting it, just hold on to the goddamn ball. Squeeze that day. He's like waiting, waiting, waiting. And then when he thinks, oh, I'm good. Boom.

That just builds up the fear even more. I mean, I bet if you asked him before the season, like, hey, Matt, you think you're going to get killed this season because the Colts whole line sucks? He'd probably say, no way. That's why I came to Indy. Because the offensive line's great. The running game's great. That's why I'm here.

It's the most expensive whole line, right? Probably a selling point I came to Indy. Because the offensive line's great, the running game's great. That's why I'm here. It's the most expensive O-line, right? Probably a selling point. I sure hope not. I think so. I asked him in his press conference via Kyle, the athletic trainer, who's the man. I asked him via Kyle to ask Matt Ryan what he knew about Jonathan Taylor. And he said Jonathan Taylor was one of the reasons he came,

because the run game and the offensive line and everything is so good. At his stage, he was like, yeah, this is exactly what we fucking need. Yeah. And then I could just do one of these real quick. And then we got boom. Bang. Pittman. No problem at all.

Give me a tight end. Give me Moe Alleycox. Give me Pittman. And then we just go right back to the best running back in the game. This guy's the rushing leader, rushing title holder, MVP candidate. No problem. We got an offensive line that we're investing in. Boom, boom, boom.

I'm going to be able to play for fucking 10 more years, dude. No worries. Here we go. Then he gets here first game. Boom! Hands it off to Jonathan Taylor. Boom! Both of them getting tackled in the backfield. Alright, next week we'll get better, won't we? Next week, hand it off. Boom! Blow up 10 fucking fumbles

later in four and a half games. You're right. There's no way Matt Ryan saw this coming when he came to Indianapolis. It's fixable though, right? It's fixable? Fixable? AQ said it's fixable, so I'll go with AQ. I don't know if AQ saw Bernhard Raymond get his ass beat

last Thursday. How's the left tackle? Right first start, right? Right tackle wasn't much better, though. Right guard also a problem. They helped him out. They helped him out quite a bit. I don't know if he can chip everybody. He hunkered down a little bit in the second half. That's tough.

A lot of nerves, prime time, first start. Shit, it can only get better. It can only go up from here. I agree. I think so. I think so. We're on his side. Let's go, cuz.

You failed a test. It can only get better, too. But you still might be a doofus. That's a pretty good thing. Wow. I mean, I appreciate you making reference to, like, humans taking a test in a class or something like that. That's a very good metaphor for the entire situation.

But I don't think you're scared to death that you're going to potentially get broken in half whenever you're taking a test, like this guy could have felt in his first ever primetime game at left tackle. And to our point from earlier, right tackle not doing that great, right tackle not doing that great right guard not doing too great so if you're that rookie you know can't get much help because where do we send the running back is the running back coming to me is the running back helping the guard and tackle on the other side is he chipping i mean you got new running backs in there too obviously important parts of the protection but you got you know heinz went, JT's banged up, so that's another element to this thing, man.

Figure it out. Hey, Matt Ryan's going to survive. That's right. It's a bummer they don't have like a 6-7 tight end to help block or something, because that would be perfect. Just put him on the field. Put Jelani Woods on the field. Jelani Pierce.

Let's talk about Aaron Jones a little bit here. Aaron Jones, obviously, after the game, told reporters that with two yards, him and A.J. would have been able to get it. You give him three opportunities at it. And there's no reason for us not to believe Aaron Jones, and there's no reason for Aaron Jones to say that if he actually believes that, which he should.

There's a stat coming out about Aaron Jones that he is currently averaging 6.39 yards per carry. That's the best in the entire NFL. He ranks tied for 19th in rushing attempts with 61. That's via Matt Schneidman. Hey, Schneidman. Atta baby. Way to go, Schneidman. Hey, that's good reporting, Schneidman.

Hey, baby, Schneid. They're in the pot. Hey, we appreciate you, Schneidman. Well, I don't think giving the goddamn ball is what everybody's saying. A.J. Dillon's also having an incredible year, and Aaron Jones is getting obviously frustrated after week one. Everybody was saying, can't have four targets or whatever for Aaron Jones. Can't do it.

We've got to get better. We've got to get better. And then somehow it gets lost in the mix. A.J., why does that happen, you think, with Aaron Jones? He's an incredible fucking football player. He and A.J. Dillon both. Like, I feel like when you watch them play, they complement each other very well. And A.J. Dillon, like, I don't feel like we ever see that dude falling backwards ever.

He always is finishing forward. He always is punishing the defense. Also, Aaron Jones, like, he's more of like a slasher, do everything back. But he runs very, very physical, too. He's not letting dudes, like, he's not running out of bounds. He's blasting dudes in the sidelines. He catches the ball everywhere. They both, I feel like, can block.

So I feel like the more heavily involved these guys are, yeah, it's – I don't know. I just feel like people can't consistently stop both of these guys. What did Aaron – Aaron said best 11 on the field. Yeah. Yesterday. Because he was talking about Big Dog. Yep.

The week before he was talking about Cobb. Romeo Dobbs, he seems like. Both running backs he's complimented. It's almost like, hey, LaFleur, why don't you go into a little drawing book? Let's get a little creative. Let's do this over a Zoom call. Let's get two backs in here.

Let's get fucking two tight ends with Tunyon and fucking Big Dog. Let's get Cobb. Let's get Dobbs out here. Let's figure out how to use our best players. Why do you think some play callers get lost in the middle of a game and maybe forget about a guy? Do you think it's just situational,

Darius? Do you think it's on purpose? Do you think that some people can't see what we can see? Do you think LeFleur thinks differently of Aaron Jones or it just gets lost in the mix almost? I think that's ultimately what separates the okay ones from the good ones from the great ones. Play callers?

Yeah, the play callers that can adjust, that can kind of feel, okay, how's this game? Okay, we had a plan, but this defense, their plan is better, so now we have to move on to plan B or C. But to that point of that tweet, he's averaging over six yards a carry. Yeah, he's 19th because he's obviously splitting carries with Dillon. It's kind of similar to what's going on in Dallas. Like Pollard, it's always every game he has a big run.

So people are like, hey, he needs to be running back one. He should be getting 25 carries. But we're playing against that offense. Like Zeke, what he does on that other side of the bend, like that pounding and falling forward for three, four, six yards, and you had that change of pace with fresh back, fresh legs back there. Like, that's tough. And the 20 personnel for defenses,

it always kind of puts you in a bind as far as how you're going to match that. You're going to match with base. You're going to match with sub. And then A-Rod obviously has the ability to check in and out of play. So, you know, that's what separates good play callers from the bad ones. I wonder how I would be as a play caller. Terrible, I think. Just because if I know me at all, which I've been with me a long time, it's terrible.

You might let your emotions creep in, I'm guessing. Well, for sure. I mean, if we don't like the way somebody's talking, we are certainly attacking. I said personally, we're going to have to get that. But also, if I see something that's working, like, hey, we are going to. We're trying to win the fucking game here. Let's do that. I think there's some.

And we're not saying this about LeFleur. I'm just saying in general. It seems like some play callers almost try to do too much shit. Like, hey. I get too cute. Yeah. Do we need to get everybody involved in the game? Yes.

But if we don't, let's not. If we don't need it, let's go ahead and keep it moving i'm intrigued by the christian watson thing though because he's a decoy now right with the jet sweeps and everything like that haven't hasn't really been used at all as a weapon they don't really account you like almost don't even have to account for him in the passing game because it's like the routes he's running it's either either he's just fucking running a go ball or he's not, you know, like early on in the season they tried to get him involved on a couple of those bubbles, didn't get his head around quick enough.

Like that's the type of stuff where when Dobbs is or Cobb is, like Rodgers trusts those guys. So I don't know if he's – but the thing, like as a fan at least, that drives you nuts is Aaron Jones is far and away their best offensive weapon. Like it's not even close. And in the Bears game a couple weeks ago when they rushed for over 200 yards, they were running like a little pony package where him and A.J. Dillon are both split in the backfield at the same time.

I don't think they've run that since then. And I think what they do a lot is, like, Aaron Jones will have a great drive. He'll, you know, gash the defense. He'll have, like, an 11-yard carry and then, like, a 7-yard carry. And then they'll take him out and they'll put in A.J. Dillon for you know like six plays and and it's just like he's the change of pace back like he's completely he's not if he gets moving or if it's late in the game he's kind of like that Derrick Henry where like he'll grind teams down and he might break one late but it's a lot more four five six yard hard run like Aaron Jones is a game breaker like

if you get the ball in his hands, whether it's in the passing game or the running game, he is going to make plays. He's proved that time and time again. And I feel like for whatever reason, they continually say, hey, we need to get this guy's touches. We need to get this guy involved. And then they just don't. And when they do, they beat the shit out of teams.

And they paid him too, which is what's surprising to me. They paid him, and then they're stealing at you. It's like normally when you pay somebody, they're forcing that person the ball. And it's like the complete opposite. And this is what it is to be a head coach and a play caller, though. Everybody's going to question everything if you're not winning every single game. Sport science gets involved as well, too, as far as how many touches, how many carries, all this thing for the whole season.

Because obviously they're looking for the season, for the playoffs. They expect to be in the playoffs, make a run. So that gets involved. But to your point, like when you're a play caller, you come a game you have plans right we get in the red zone okay these are the plans these are personnel groupings that's going to be in but if aaron jones is just he just having one of those days sometimes we just got to switch it up like put him in there let's keep feeding them and that goes for for anybody receivers hey we got this this was the plan but hey it's 36 let's dial up something for this guy. He's hot today.

And I feel like a lot of times they don't even, they get into a situation where he doesn't even get that opportunity because they get into the second half and he's only got like six carries or six touches. So it's kind of just like, you know, okay, well, we still got to keep A.J. Dillon involved. And I also, like, he's a consummate teammate, so he's not going to say anything.

And they do, I mean, A.J. Dillon is a stud. He's good as well, so he needs touches. But I also do think there's something to, like, Aaron Jones, like it's hard to get into a rhythm when you're going and you're eating, and then all of a sudden it's like, okay, well, I'm not going to get the next series or I'm going to be off the field for the next four plays. Like I know he's not saying that that's an issue, but it's tough as a fan watching it to not think, like,

if this guy stays in the game, like, he's going to go off. And not that A.J. Dillon isn't. Right. And I think Aaron Jones is a fan of A.J. Dillon. We're all fans of A.J. Dillon. For sure. But the stable backfield thing is interesting. And I'm only saying that because I've seen a couple running backs

who maybe their style was like, I need to find a rhythm. I need to, you know, I need to beat these teams down a little bit, and then I'll get going. You see it with, like, Derrick Henry. You see it around the NFL with like the top end running backs. Josh Jacobs, the other day, they're starting to do it like out of necessity almost. Hey, we got to go. It's like, I wonder what Aaron Jones would be if he was on every single guy. He was getting 25 carries a game. Which is why whenever they drafted A.J. Dillon in the second round or whatever, everybody was like, you draft a quarterback. We didn't need a fucking quarterback.

And you draft a running back. We didn't need a fucking quarterback. And you draft a running back. We didn't need a fucking running back. Like, those are the only two positions, like, on the offensive side that we got the guys at. And now it's like, how can they make the most out of all of it, AJ? Well, I think D-Butt hit on it. He mentioned, like, the sports science and everything. I'm sure they're telling Aaron Jones, like, hey, man, it's a long season. We need you for the final push when we're really making a run at this Super Bowl.

So we don't want to wear you down, give you too too many carries now we know we're going to be there in position hopefully to make a run and we need to make sure that you feel as good as you possibly can when that time comes i get it hey i get that makes sense but also you can't be hamstringing yourself saying that and then like all right so we're only going to give you eight touches today you're one you're our best player on offense but we need you healthy so we're only going to give you fucking 10 opportunities i think some of these coaches honestly get so locked in into the game into the moment and after the game is over like oh shit i only got this guy this many plays or that i think it was frank who early on like they didn't expect somebody to play or something like that and they

didn't adjust the game plan from like the practice week which is wild to me i think naheem hines had like the first catch of the game for 17 yards. And then he didn't get any more touch for the rest of the game. So you've got to have a plan obviously, and we go through same formations, plan, shift, and that's the game plan for the week. You kind of know third down, like, okay, this is what

the team are. We're getting bunches. We're getting stacks. We're getting this. Rarely do they fully completely adjust, but I think there's certain times where they should do more of that and I think that's what the best ones do. Hey, that's what the Patriots defense does, right? They got like four different game plans going into the week and then the quarterback's like, alright, we got them figured out.

And then the second quarter comes and says, what? What is going on here? And then third quarter, same thing. Fourth quarter, same thing. So defense can do this as well, AJ. It's not just offense that can adjust and change. Oh yeah, defense can do it. It's just you got to make sure you have the right personnel oh yeah do it like week to week and make those changes because it's it's a lot on guys a lot of moving parts i think but the best offensive play callers i think i've said forever they take

what the defense gives them like whatever the defense is what their plan is they're gonna the first 15 the script they're gonna see okay how do they play bunch what's their empty check what are they doing here and there and then you adjust and you do you take what they give you like if they're loading the box we're not going to sit there and try to pound our big our big running back until you take the guy out of the box hey most defenses that first 15 are going to have to show everything that they got basically for the entire day now we just said that the bill uh patriots change quarter to quarter and everything like that because that's just the way they operate and it feels like that would be the right move.

But I assume it's not as easy to execute as we are just making it out to be right now with everybody having to be on the same page and four different game plans every fucking week. That seems like that's not realistic. No, personnel wise. And from the moment you come into that building in New England, like it's a I would say it's a different standard as far as like um accountability and knowing you know the ins and outs of everything the coverages the why you're doing it so that way you know you can go and it could be a week eight game and we can go back to something we were doing in week four and you got to obviously have like smart players that can adjust as well because you're always dealing with injuries and new people playing new positions so the AJ's point personnel is big on that so every coach every team uh can't do that but you got it you got to be able to adjust you and to your point about checking the first 15 yeah yeah

that's so most teams the first 15 you're going to learn what the defense is going to do probably yeah but you you have multiple things so we'll have an empty check but we'll also have like a second empty check you know what i mean that we go to. Or same thing with the bunches. Like, hey, all right, we're coming out first. The plan is to lock the bunches. And let's say the first two third downs we locked them and we get good results, we may stick with that. Or if we get bad results, we may switch it up.

We got a plan B. Yeah. We always got a plan B sometimes and a plan C. So you'll see things and then you'll adjust. So why is that the first 15 then is just what the offense is trying to see what the defense is going to do even though the defense probably has other options available if you have success or is that to see what your team can do well on that particular day you think aj none of us are offensive players this is a great conversation for us to have

each coach might give you a little different opinion on why like what they want to do in those first 15 but yeah they're gathering information yeah i mean gather information how they play this look. This is what we've done in the past. How are they going to match it up? That's how we go from there. That's when you're looking at their Microsoft surfaces and they're breaking them on the sidelines. They're looking at, hey, how are these

guys playing this right now? No, not breaking them. You break them, you're fine. That's right. Break them, you buy them. Just like that offensive coordinator for the fucking Buffalo Bills. Ken T tantrum dorsey that's right handle losing with him forever it's gonna be a stain yeah yeah that was wild getting a head coaching job i appreciate where kyle was coming from on that i appreciate kyle's big brain i think he's very handsome and good on tv and on the internet but like that one i'm like man i was

like kind of pumped to see yeah it was sick i like, happy to see that we still got that. Yeah. You know, like, somebody cares enough to lose their shit in public. Now, let's not make a habit out of it. Like, hey, listen, you know, we can't be making a habit out of that. That cannot be every day, every game type thing. But also, like, dude's fucking invested. Players are going to love that.

But you break the tablet, AJ, you're getting fined because Tom Brady did it on primetime television, Paul. That's why, AJ. How much do they fine? How much do those tablets run nowadays? Game check, I heard. Yep. Oh, no. Aaron, it's game check, yeah.

Seriously? No. Oh, I was about to say, wow. 10 grand? I have no idea. Is that conduct detrimental? Yeah, I've been fined like 70 grand because of tweets, so I wonder if a Surface, you know, that's hardware at least,

not even just software. Yeah, I mean, those things retail about 700 bucks,. So I wonder if a Surface, you know, that's hardware at least, not even just software. Yeah, I mean, those things retail about 700 bucks. So if you're finding more than that, I think that's pure poppycock. Do you know anybody that has one? A Surface? Yeah. Yeah, just one guy who's watching the NFL and he's seen that Tom is using one. He said, oh, give me one of those.

I want to watch film on it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that one guy. How bad is it still, though? Do you still find commentators, you know, they're looking at the iPad. I'm like, how bad is... Microsoft's got to be so pissed.

Well, they should just hang it up. Yeah. Call it. Yes. Yeah. Because... Why do the players all have iPads? Yeah.

Every team is like, hey, get your iPads up. Literally, boom. And then game day happens, got to use an entirely new computer, an entirely new software. How does this fucking thing work? That makes no sense at all. Have an iPad all week, and then, all right, go do service. Can't get mad at it either.

No. Don't break it. You will be fine. One detrimental to the league, to the game, and to the team because you embarrassed all of us. It's like with Apple trying to get in the rights deals,

I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to make a move for the iPads on the sideline and you would hear every player and every coach be like, fuck, you're not open. Jesus. All right, you hit a code. Fuck, that's every day of my life. You know anybody that doesn't have an iPhone, Darius?

Yeah. Me too. We got some people holding it out. I met some more people through my travels here that tell me that their phone's more secure than mine. And I'm like, hey, I want to let you know, kids these days, they can fucking get yours, dude. They can get no problem at all.

They can get whatever. I don't even know if security's even worth a conversation anymore. Everybody needs to understand, it feels like, and I don't know shit about fuck. Neither does AJ, and I'm not speaking for AJ. AJ can give his opinion on it immediately afterwards. From my understanding, there are whiz kids out there that just understand coding and technology better than the people that are creating it. Okay?

The people that are in it. These kids who grow up in it understand they can get into whatever the fuck they want. Simple. They can do whatever the fuck they want, AJ. I mean, they can just. They want to get into it. If they want to, they will. If they want to, they will.

I guess all your job is don't make it too easy on them, I guess, right? Yeah, I guess that's what we're thinking from the phone companies. But still, if they want it, they'll get you. They got Bezos. They get anybody. Bro, you get an email every other day from a company that you subscribe to at some point. We've been hacked. More than you know, this information we gave up.

What information did you give up? Oh, just your social security number, your bank number, your address. All your credit card information. Everything should be good. We got it back to good, though. Just something to think. It's like, okay. And then you go two days later.

It's like, when did I sign up for a fucking Foot Locker subscription? Yeah. Oh, they have your credit card, your shoe size, and also the house that the shoes want to because they're all being tracked. It's like, what? Everything's okay, though. Come on back to Foot Locker. I'm not saying that happened to Foot Locker, but that is literally how it feels with some of these emails. We would like to tell you about a data breach that has occurred or whatever.

Everything's okay. Everything's okay. We got it figured out. We got to the root of it. But three months ago, if you haven't seen any money go out of your account, thank God, because we gave away everything, basically. We got a lockdown now, though. You should think about changing all your information, though,

because we're fucked. And then the next day, email another company, same exact thing. DoorDash, what's happening there? they got my credit card they got my house information they got everything i need if they get hacked we're fucked what do you have hulu what do you have anything you're subscribed to it's like you're banking on all these companies to be locked i want to let you know they're gonna get you if they want to we're all running out of passwords too bro yeah and then the phone remembering the crazy ass password that it creates like i'm not doing that ever you know everybody says i should i'm like no no no well And then the phone remembering the crazy-ass password that it creates.

Like, I'm not doing that ever. Even though everybody says I should. I'm like, well, what if my phone one day just says, meh, actually, we don't remember. Have you ever used one of those? No. They try to get you to – They're like automatic. They want you to write it down somewhere too or put it in your –

like, what are you going to do? It's one of the greatest brains and minds in defensive football. Host of the Man to Man podcast. Host of the NFL Matchup Show on ESPN, ESPN Plus, and ESPN2. Ladies and gentlemen, for everything DB, let's go to 12-year NFL vet. Both are 9-year NFL vet. And he played corner, nickel, and safety. Ladies and gentlemen, Darius J. Butler.

Yes, sir. Hey, boys. Let's get to it. Let's get to it. Jabba's moving. My audio good? Yeah, you sound J. Butler. Yes, sir. D-Bud. Let's get to it. Let's get to it. Jabba's moving. My audio good? Yeah, you sound great. We solid, man.

Let's get to it, man. Grit. Perseverance right here. Let's get it. Hey, let's live in vision. Special things strong, man. Not in consequence. Yep, whatever you just said.

All right. I said that. Whoa. That was your coach. That was my coach. You weren't listening, D-Bud, huh? Why'd you listen to me? You said that one again.

I didn't remember that one. That's a Chuckism? Let's live in vision, not? Why'd you listen to me? You said that one again. I don't remember that one. Is it Chuck Isen? It's live in vision, not in circumstance. Okay. That's a good one. Hell yeah. It's actually his Twitter bio right now. Really? I think so. Live in vision, not in circumstance. Maybe live in circumstance, not vision. What does that mean? Yeah, that might... No.

It's literally his Twitter bio. You don't want to live in circumstance. That one didn't resonate with me. Oh, it was only when he got... A lot of them do, you know some of them just I think that was when he I'm not going to say it I'm not going to do it You always say circumstances are Circumstantial

So Well let's talk about some circumstances It was when he got cancer I think He said I'm not listening to the diagnosis I'm living in a vision I want to dance with my two daughters Oh I do remember that. He said, let's live in vision, not in circumstance. Let's live in vision, not in circumstance.

Came like his rally cry. Really good. I remember it. D-Bud didn't care. No, I remember it. It's all coming back to me. Don't be a bad teammate. I was a bad teammate earlier. Tyvis Powell was not your teammate. He got hit in 2017.

Let's clear that up first. Tyvis, I wish I was a teammate with you. We're going to get back to some circumstances here. I had a nice same game parlay going Monday night. One leg didn't hit. Travis Kelsey. 60 yards. He needed 60 yards. This is the big reason why it didn't hit.

That is a defensive in Cleveland. Farrell? This is the big reason why it didn't hit. That is a defensive end. Cleveland? Farrell? Yes. Four overall pick by John Gruden. That's him out there. You know what Patrick Graham said?

We're not going to let 87 beat us. They have four touchdowns, but only 25 yards. We put a DN out there to get a reroute and help Trevon Morgan cover. This is third and 15, so it's going to end up being a free play because this DN, who's probably not used to being out there, got illegal hands to the face. He's buried. He's just tackled Travis Kelton. So that's one way to eliminate target number

one. But it's third and 15. Me, Cole Hartman in the slot. We go back to the top. He's in the slot. Nate Hobbs in outside leverage on defense. The coverage they're running here is man to man across the board. He's a post safety and he should be a robber, right? Jonathan Abrams. He should be a robber, which coverage they're running here is man-to-man across the board. He's a post safety, and he should be a robber, right? Jonathan Abrams. He should be a robber, which means you're giving everyone inside help

defensively down the field. Third and 15, remember, so this is the first down marker right here, pretty much where he's standing. So he should be looking to help anyone who needs it. Obviously, this guy is not going to need help, so that would have became his second threat. You can let it play. He kind of stays over here guarding grass for some reason.

He has to read the quarterback, start making his way here, and try to make a play, help that nickel back out. It should be a pick, honestly, but he obviously lets Hardman just run away from him. Outside leverage, nickel back, running away. McCall Hardman, 4'2",2", tough sledding on that nickelback. So great execution by Patrick Mahomes, finding the open target. Bad execution on the back end defensively.

How often is 99 tackling a wide receiver? That does not happen really ever almost. Now, a Belichick thing, and you'll see it later in these clips as well, a Belichick thing and Patrick Graham, defensive coordinator for the Raiders, is a Belichick disciple. It's always reroute. We're going to reroute those type of tight ends, right? That looks like a punt run.

We did it before with Adelius Thomas. That's a guy we'll put out there and just reroute the guy. But if he was anywhere near this core, usually they'll do it this wide. If he's anywhere near this core. During this game, Chandler Jones, one of the best pass rushing league, he rerouted him a ton before going to quarterback same with max max crosby but um that's how important patrick graham thought that travis kelsey was to the offensive success of the chiefs like once again once you get to the red area where he had four touchdowns it's a lot tougher to do it with what chiefs do down there. But out in the field, they did a great job holding the 25 yards.

You think Graham said we were able to accomplish our mission of this guy not breaking a game? No. He got 25 yards, four touchdowns. He's thinking, this guy can't beat us. So much so he's putting a defensive end flanked out on a way. This is the guy we are taking out of the game. Four touchdowns later, tough ride home, you think, for that guy?

Oh, real tough ride home. Tough. Tough ride home. I mean, the that guy? A real tough ride home. The Chiefs, they do so much in the red area as far as with your eyes. It's almost impossible to have good eye discipline. They got guys going behind the line of scrimmage, this way, that way. So it's tough with what they do with Kelsey down there. Are teams going to do that, you think,

going forward? Is that strategy? Four tuds. Yeah, the four tuds. Four tuds, you got to fix that. It's tough. I don't know. I don't know if a lot of teams would do that. But Travis Kelsey, once again, he's that big of a piece of that offense. You got to do something out of the norm.

Why didn't you account for that in your same game parlay? I feel like you should have. Yeah, D-Bud. Yeah, D-Bud. Why can't you see the future? Because it's Travis Kelsey. I still expect – he had four touchdowns. I still expect Patrick Mahomes to find this guy.

Four touchdowns, 25 yards. I had never seen this. Seven catches, 25 yards. How come Jonathan Abram just stood there and just – Honestly, okay, so I don't like, you know, jumping on guys. He's a box. He's better in the box. Yeah, he's better, and he has some good plays.

Blitzen coming off the edge. He's a great tackler, you know, when he's coming down, filling gaps. But out in space, that's where Abram kind of struggled, and that was kind of one of the when he's coming down, filling gaps. But out in space, that's where Abram kind of struggled. He was the first round. He practices hard. He's one of those guys that's kind of like full speed ahead. It didn't pick up his fits.

This guy's awesome, he said, as he's spearing people and walk through. He's like, yeah, every single snap. It's like everybody could do that. I do like that we're, I like his effort, though. I like that he cares. I like how hard he went in those practices. I didn't like how everybody was gassing him up for it, though. It's like, hey,

everybody could spear people and walk through. Gotta practice like a pro. Long season. Oh, yeah. And I think Abrams probably learned that. He's probably becoming more of a pro and more of a leader, but you're saying he still has an opportunity to grow. He has to. He has to.

He has a talent. But in this league, as a DB, even as a linebacker now, you've got to be able to play in space. You've got to be able to be impactful in the pass game. So there's definitely some room. That's like A.J. A.J., that was your big thing, right, pal? Yeah, liability in the pass game.

That's right. That's right. Play against the Eagles. Yeah. You guys calling him a liar? I was saying he's – I was not saying that. But a lot of people, you know, his coaches sounded like we're saying, hey, this guy can't play against the Eagles because he's You guys calling him a liar? I was saying he – I was not saying that, but a lot of people, you know,

coaches sounded like we're saying, hey, this guy can't play against the Eagles because he's a liability in the pass. Get him out. Right, 4-4. AJ, that's what they're saying to you, AJ? Yep, they're saying it. And AJ said, I will request a trade today if you don't put me in the game. Right. Think about that, though.

AJ runs a 4-4 and the coordinator's like – Can't cover it. What do you mean? Can't put this guy in space. He's jumping over sproles on a thing. This guy can't cover a soul. I felt like that was before when everybody was running a 4-4.

Like running a 4-4 when it was still the standard. Now everybody runs 4-4. AJ, does that kind of piss you off a little bit? What? What, that everybody runs a 4-4 now? No. I've never really thought about that. Well, let's put it in his brain now.

You should be pissed off, dude. Yeah, you should think about that. You used to be really cool when you ran a 4-4. I'm pissed now. You're right. What's that? You are? Yeah, I'm pissed now.

Jeez, calm down. All right, good. Not a whole lot of white linebackers. His weight running a 4-4. 4-4. Jumping 40 inches. Yeah. That's why you go top five.

Top five. That's how you get $50 million guaranteed. That keeps you never pissed off. Hey, you see Devontae's split right there? What's that tell you, D-Bot? Well, number one, Devontae obviously can do. He's one of the best

right-runners in the league. Top two. I'll put him up there with a couple other guys. Cut split. Inside the numbers. Now, this is another math changer, right? So, Travis Kelsey. Travis Kelsey, he changed the math. That's what great receivers do, great pass rushers. They change the math.

We've got to put two guys on them. So, in this situation, we've got a bracket coverage. We've got a corner, and then we've got a safety inside leverage. Now, I personally hate bracket coverages in the field because of this reason, especially with good, smart, savvy wide receivers. He's going to have a deep post route, but he's going to hesitate kind of at the top of his route, kind of this intermediate area of the field, and then split these two defenders because in the bracket coverage, obviously I got his outside leverage, I got his inside leverage, but nobody has him right down the middle of the two.

Derek Carr steps up in the pocket, makes a great throw. You see him throw his hand up, run it back. Watch the hesitation. Sweet little stutter, too. Yeah, that stutter just to stop his feet even more. And then he throws that hand up, Randy Moss. If you run it back, actually, this is a double bracket. They doubled two guys on this one.

They doubled Renfro up top as well, which I don't mind a Renfro double because he's not splitting these guys. He's not running for 50 yards. I think he did, though. He's not. He's not. He's got to catch up, all right? Why? Because he's white?

He's on a Renfro. That's fucked up. He's not making this play right here. You let this play. He's ahead of Devontae. Let it play. Let it play. He ain't doing that.

That's why he's making $30 million a year. That's, once again, why I hate bracket coverage. You'll see another example of that as well. But great job. Great route by him. Speed release. Hesitation at the the top, threw his hand up. I mean, they're both. There he is.

There he is. Hey, but that's why you hate bracket coverage. Those guys gone, huh? That's why Cooper Cupp's never on here. Well, we've had Cooper Cupp on here before. He loves Cooper Cupp. No. Cooper Cupp's best team in the league.

There it is. Oh, that's the other one. Okay. There's two. Not the answer. Most productive. You know he Cupp. No. Cooper Cupp's best team in the league. There it is. Oh, that's the other one. Okay. That's not the answer. Most productive. You know he's getting the ball. Can't stop him. So, yeah, Cooper Cupp. AJ, what do you think about bracket coverage there?

It's like a punt team. You split in the punt. That's what you're trying to do. In this particular case, it seems like these guys, I got left. You got right. We got nothing. Who's got over the top? Nobody.

AJ. Yeah, I agree with D, but it's very tough because the receiver, whoever you're trying to double, knows that as well. So he's like, I'm going to split these dudes, run right down the middle. If my quarterback can put a good ball out here, this double did nothing for us, actually. This is awesome. Nothing.

And Devontae Adams, he sees double coverage damn near every week. It's different in the red zone. Yeah, red zone, we don't have to worry about that D-Bot. We don't have to worry about 30, 40, 50 yards down the field. So it's much better in the red zone. But this, once again, is bracket coverage on both receivers you see Gabe Davis down here outside leverage inside leverage backed up on the two yard line I believe it's the third and 10 yep and once again right through the middle of the guys post route Josh Allen from the pocket in his own end zone makes it accurate

throw down the field once again outside inside nobody has down the middle 30 but that's surprising coverage right right there that's a very surprising coverage at that point in the field you'll see both of these safeties kind of split and go all the way out to the number ones so even if you're this guy like you're one-on-one with that guy with the entire middle of the field open. So don't understand his coverage. Maybe they're trying to protect these guys. Tone told me earlier, hey, when you go over there at Steelers play,

make sure you mention we had backups, we had this, we had that. Well, the good news is Minka was on Gabe Davis. No, he's actually in the end zone right now. That's the best coverage player. But not a good spot to have him.

You tried to double, tried to account for the weapons, but obviously great route, great ball, and that's how you go 98. Shout out Gabe Davis. Supposed to have him on the show today. Helped me and Dirty get our first win against A.J. Hawks team. Yeah. Fantasy football this week, so long season ahead.

Thank you, 1-3. Eight touchdowns in the last six games. Game Davis averages like 40-some or 60-some yards. That's playoffs included? Yes. Okay. And if you think about it, third and ten right there, first drive of the game.

Steelers get a stop. Maybe that game goes the opposite direction. Instead, 98 yards. Then the next kickoff, Steelers fumble it. Buffalo Bills got it. They get a stop. But that kind of set a tone for the rest of that game. And the Steelers got billed out of there.

They did. You guys got billed out. I didn't say billed out. Well, that's because the game was such a big blowout. They saved it. They kept them. Did they go to the top or no? No, that punt stunk.

No, he didn't swing at it. It felt like, right? Yeah, Steph. He has to punt to build up. Somebody tell no? No, that punt stunk. No, he didn't swing at it, it felt like, right? Yeah, Steph. He has to punt the build-up. I just saw the kick. No, that's one or he either punts one up to the top level or he punts a build-up into the stands. Okay. AJ added the build-up, right, AJ?

Yes, I did. It just has to get into the stand. I don't know, maybe what, 10 rows deep? What do you think? You tell me, AJ. $25,000, you're donating. It's charity, you cheapskate. If he picks up a bill and attempts to punt it, his foundation gets the money.

Okay. Okay. All right, so just an attempt. That's going to hurt his foot. He's got to make contact with it, but yeah. That's going to hurt his foot. It depends. You've got to pick and choose which one he picks up, man.

You never know. All right, let's go to some good defensive back play from this past weekend. Hell yeah. Here we go. Now we're to the good. We've got a Patriots once again again, we got a returning guy. Back-to-back weeks, Jack Jones with another pick. I said he was a second-rounder last time I was with him.

He was actually a fourth-rounder. Would have been a first-rounder. But now TJ, TJ Hodgson, went off last week, right, over 150 yards. Once again, Belichick, good tight ends, good receiving tight ends, anywhere near the core. That edge rusher's primary responsibility before getting to the quarterback is reroute this guy. And his reroute is actually going to help when the back end, they're going to end up running what looks like

a quarters coverage. So you got one, two, three, four, dividing the quarters part of the field, and then the three underneath defenders. And then you're going to get four verse he's going to have a wide vertical he's going to go vertical this receiver ultimately he's going to want to occupy this cornerback and the safety and what that would do is give TJ Hagen sent a one-on-one with this quarter flat defender for Jared golf and throw the ball but you'll see this little reroute at the beginning of the route helps throw off the timing a little bit so once again you're widening you make them go wider when they run this route on air when they run their practice this person is at a different point in the field jared golf still tries to make the throw jones comes off of his off of that number one receiver great vision

goes up and get the ball and the most impressive part of this play was getting his feet in balance but having that vision, having that awareness as a rookie, that's very, very special. Watch the end of this play actually getting his feet down. It wasn't even close, getting both feet down. Come on.

He had two up. One, two. If you let him play, just let him run and maybe he'll see it. He had another pick, too. That's unbelievable. Yeah. That's incredible athleticism, ball skills. I want to see this one more time.

Oh, you want to see it from the top? Oh, that'll be good. Oh, okay. Draft players, huh? What is this? Congrats on getting one, dude. Cole Strange, please. Come on.

Casey Hayward. This is kind of a teach tape for corners on not panicking on that deep ball. We see it a lot, especially with certain quarterbacks that throw up that deep ball, kind of underthrown, receiver comes back, get an easy spot foul flag, which this could have easily been first and goal for the Tampa Bay Bucs. But I want you to watch Casey Hayward here, especially at the end of this route up against Scottie Miller. Now, remember, Scottie, 4-3 guy, right?

Burner. Burner. Burner. So, eyes are on him the whole time. Now he feels him slowing down around that six-yard line. He knows, let me get my head around. Let me make a play. So, that's a savvy veteran.

I think Casey's, what, 10, 11 years in the league at this point. Falcons? Yeah. Yeah. So, you got him. You got Tarell. Tarell. Tarell.

Oh. You know, he's having a little tougher year than last year. Last year, he played at an all-pro level this year. You know, you're matching up with some of the top dogs. Some guys are going to get you. A lot of ball left. I think you'll be all right. Hey, let's talk about this, though.

What is he reading right now off his – because he's just reading Scotty at this point, right? Yep. He's just running and reading Scotty. AJ, go ahead, pal. He's looking at at his eyes i'm trying to figure out when he's gonna go up for the ball and then watch casey he realized oh here we go i'm in phase i gotta turn around or i'm gonna get a pi especially this ball is under thrown like that's that's i mean that's textbook that's perfect not panicking most dbs in this situation they're going to continue running he's going to come back to the ball and this ref is going to throw a flag but him getting his head up and around the last second actually getting a hand

on the ball as well i mean that's that's a great play at most likely you're going to see veterans make which uh obviously casey hayward is that ball's close yeah definitely underthrown scotty miller slowed down you see his eyes you saw the eyes he saw his body slow down so once again great job reading that receiver and not panicking. Because at first, you're out of phase. He's out of phase, so you're just running. You're looking at the receiver, looking at his hands. If Casey Hayward was in phase, hip to hip,

he would have had his head around looking for the ball the whole time. How hard is that to turn around right before? That is incredibly hard. Did you see how close? I mean, that ball, he has no vision on that ball. He's just banking entirely on Scotty Miller's body language here, right? Ball's got to be close. Yeah, and what he did great here as well is turn into Scottie Miller

as opposed to turning this other way because let's say Scottie Miller's running here and he feels him slow down. If he slows down and I turn into him, we're both going to have an opportunity to go for the ball. A lot of times what corners do that late, if Casey now, maybe not in this situation, but if he turns this way, it's easier for that receiver to just kind of throw him by and just go

up. You have all your, you're running down 50 yards. You have all your momentum going this way. So if somebody swipes you by, you're going to go by. He comes back for the ball. So great job not only getting his head around, but turning into the receiver and making the play on the ball. That's like perfect coverage. That's incredible by Casey Harrell. Hey, that a baby, Casey.

There you go, Casey. Atlanta got robbed for an opportunity in the game. Now it's going to be tough for me to feel bad for the DB when they're on the quarterback long throw. Yeah, that's right. You guys don't, I mean. You don't see that often. Turn around like that.

That's a special play from Casey. Hey, Casey, great play. Usually that's a bailout. Yeah, absolutely. This is the same, I believe. Speaking of bailout. Oh, the same. Yeah, this is probably from the back copy.

Could have used that really cool stunt there, too, but they held on. Could have brought some pressure. Golly. Yeah, that's some good stuff right there. I mean, that's like perfect coverage, right? That's perfect right there. The ref was probably ready, like, okay. Yeah, what if this ref was right there. I mean, that's like perfect coverage, right? That's perfect right there. Ref was probably ready like, okay. Yeah, what if this ref was like, damn, what the fuck?

He had his hand on the flag probably. I was going to say, how many refs do you think would still call PI on that? I feel like there are still some guys who would. He'd turn around. Yeah, they're looking for that head turn. Like if that corner turns around and plays that ball, usually they'll let it go. So even if there's a little contact, but he gets his head around, they'll let it go even if there's a little contact but he gets his head around don't let that incident yeah because we have a right to the ball too but if we're not playing the ball and the receiver a smart receiver even if i have no

chance of catching that ball i just turn around come back for it because it's automatic flag as soon as any contact is made so casey knew he made a great play uh who we got arizona cardinals against the philadelphia eagles now this is a play that we see i feel like almost every week we talk about this play crossing routes against cover three right and a lot of times cover three if you're matching guys it basically turns into man to man once this guy clears the underneath defenders so number one james bradbury obviously a great addition to them slays and coverage up top but his coverage this is not where the interception comes But just watch his coverage Before we even get to the interception

On this crossing route from Moore Like right now What a good receiver does At that point when they come in on a crossing route If you're in a If the corner's in a good position, they'll run up at you Let's say you're in a good position They'll kind of get you vertical again

And then go back across It's kind of called a stair step. So that's what good receivers do. And Rondell Moore did a great job of that. But Bradbury did a better job of staying vertical and then putting his foot in the ground and still sticking. Like that's amazing, amazing coverage. So I definitely wanted to highlight that. But then to this ball, it's an underthrown ball. Not a bad decision, I don't think. We have Hollywood Brown, a guy that can run run like he can but definitely got to put this out in front of him great job by chauncey gartner johnson on making the play on this ball cj gj yeah cj gj but he had an opportunity kyle had an opportunity here to put this over their head i think he was in a good spot with that speed but where he is right now if he throws this ball out there i don't think he can

get around and make it. But great job by him having the vision, not panicking, going up, making a play for his team. This secondary unit for the Eagles, this whole team. Are you running back? Defense. D-butt. Yep.

Hate to cut you off. We run it back. Just watch Slay. I mean, first off, the athleticism it takes for him, not slamming down here at 24. James Bradbury, yep. The fact that he is able to recover, like his hips and feet are unbelievable. Then watch him drive and undercut the route.

So if they throw this ball, you may look open. He's going to pick this thing and maybe take it to the house. Yeah, it might be picked. We watch this every week, even running back from the top, even the safety up top. Like these are tough routes to cover. And this is why we see him every week. You're running away from the leverage.

This is outside leverage, outside leverage, outside leverage. Watch him. He does a great job being sticky with his – like nobody's open at this point. Collin makes a poor throw, I think, and CJGJ makes him pay. That's awesome. Good job from the Eagles. Hey, that's why that hip thing is so important at the combo. Yep.

That's why, because you've got to be able to literally turn sideways at any given moment because old Cousy could have cut back out, right? Because he was trying to get him to spin. Right? Old Buddy was running that route. If I've learned anything through this whole football academy we've been doing, Rondell's trying to get him that way, right? He's just trying to get him to do actually exactly what he's

doing. Like, oh shit, he's not going across. He's actually going vertical or out. And he respects the stair step, but he has enough athleticism to aj's point speed quickness all these things to stay sticky like that's why they went out and got bradbury who i i thought it was a great move when they did and he avoids this though he avoids the the voice receiver running up the seam too like a lot of guys run into each other there yeah so this was this was really really good execution from the back end. Because he could have won.

If the guy goes out, I think he plants left foot and is with him. Guy goes left, plants foot and goes with him. Is that good coaching, great athleticism, good anticipation? What do you all of that? Good coaching. That's him being a really, really good pro. A really good pro. That's who he is.

He got this. Your DB coach, he got this tailpipe. Yeah, tailpipe. We talked about crossing with lower crossing routes because it helps you avoid the traffic, right? Teams run a lot of crossing routes to get one person running into the other one. But if I'm running directly behind the receiver, I'm never going to run into traffic because he's not going to run into his guy.

Then you get to a point where you can obviously try to undercut him once the ball gets in the air. This is the same game. Cardinals on defense now interesting too isaiah simmons who was kind of like that swiss army knife coming out of college big kid linebacker played some slot he's been playing last couple weeks he's been he's been their nickelback right he's been their nickelback so that's a big nickelback so you see him running in motion with davante smith but this is a zone coverage once again cover three so you got one, three guys responsible for the deep parts of the field. But I want you to watch Jalen Thompson and watch his discipline

and coverage on when you're an underneath defender, right? And this is cover two, cover three, anything where you're an underneath dropper, a zone dropper. Ultimately, as a defense, we want to invite checkdowns. Like, like that's what we want we want the offense to throw a check down and then we rally and tackle with leverage so he does a great job continuing to get depth now wasn't it wasn't anything any cheese in front of him for him to bite but to continue to get depth and having eyes on the quarterback so vision on a quarterback so that you're in a good position a good body position to break

when the ball comes. And this is a great throw, I mean, great interception, great reaction. Jalen Thompson on Jalen Hurts right here. So when you get these opportunities, DBs, gotta take advantage of them, man. Interceptions, these picks change your life. That's a PBU right there. They line up on second down, second to ten. And this offense is as potent as they are.

They probably go down to score. So this is a big-time play and gave this team an opportunity to win this game. Did you like that, AJ, huh? Just kind of sat in his zone and then said, uh-uh. Give me that. I love any coverage when you can have eyes on the quarterback. I absolutely want to get to a spot, read the quarterback's eyes, and have everybody break.

Bro, let's see how far he goes. And, Key, you heard AJ say get to a spot. That's the first thing. Hey, D, but if Simmons is running and it's a zone, what is that? Why is he running? A lot of times, you know, they're trying to identify man or zone. If you run with it, they're like, oh, it's man. Yeah, well, so a lot of zones, you know, let's say in the huddle,

they call it three run. Or sometimes we used to call it three stay. And we would play like three stay if we're playing an offense like probably like the Chiefs or like the Packers who do a lot of that jet sweep where you can't really get on the other side of the field and be in a good position to set an edge or do something like that. Christian Jetson. So they weren't as worried about it here. So this is probably just a three-run call.

But I like the fact that they got into first and ten. Like let your players get back to a spot and read this coverage. Now, you saw how the Eagles played it. The Eagles played it more like matching. We're matching and running with these guys, but these are spot droppers. As a defender, you like spot dropping. You get to a spot, you get

your eyes on the quarterback, and you make a play. He was sitting at the 32 there, two yards in front of the sticks. Drops all the way back to what? The 38? That's 18 feet. That's a pretty fucking long way. That's a long way to just kind of make an absolute miraculous play. Looks like we got a lot of good DB play around the NFL. Is that why the scores are so bad, do you think?

We got some low-scoring games? We got some good DB play, some good receiver play, too. But good DBs, DBs make an opportunity. Young guys, young guys getting plays. Sauce Gardner, I think he got his first pick. Stingley had another pick. You saw Tariq Woolen. I didn't have him on there, but Woolen got another pick out in Seattle.

So guys are making plays on the ball. Ball skills, man. Get on those jugs. Get the interception. Once again, just to drive this point home, underneath coverage. AJ said it. Get to your spot. When you're in a zone, when you're a zone dropper, AJ said it, get to your spot. When you're in a zone, when you're a zone dropper,

a lot of people kind of get there. Because you almost can kind of take it as like a down off. Like, okay, I'm not in a man. Like, when you're a man-to-man coverage, like, it's like a high imp. Like, it's almost like a fight. Like, everything is on 10. When you're in a zone as an underneath dropper, corner sometimes to cover too,

you can kind of get a little more lackadaisical. But the more urgency you have getting to your depth and actually getting to a spot. Now I can look at his quarterback and I can react and I can be in it. Cause if you're here and I'm still fading. And now when he breaks, you still got it, you got to get down. You got to put a foot down. You got to get to your spot. So have a sense of urgency, get into your spot so that you can kind of feel. Sometimes you may see a route, you may see something happen.

You may see someone sit down right in front of you, or you may see him go to the flat and and you say, oh, shit, I kind of know. I know the couple concepts they run when number three does that or number two does that off of emotion. So get to your spot and give yourself more opportunity, because once they get there to their drop, they're expecting their guys to be in certain places, and you can make a play on this quarterback.

Hey, not a bad throw from Jalen here, right? Or did he get duped? You know, as a quarterback, on the flip side, as a quarterback, they have to kind of feel that underneath coverage. You'll see Brady do it a lot. And now he kind of – Simmons, opposite of him, he didn't really get that. He just like, shit, I don't have no threat. Let me get up there.

I don't love that, but he's up there. So he kind of takes away that check down. This is the only other check down he has, but that's probably where he should have went with that ball. You got to feel, as a quarterback, especially first and 10, if the underneath droppers just get out and they're well coached, they get out to their depth. Aaron Rodgers does it a lot.

Brady does it a lot. Peyton used to do it a lot. Hey, you just take this little five-hour dump off, and at some point the defense is going to get more aggressive, and that's when you take the chunk. But great job by the defense. That's a great job. What do you think about this?

D-Butt, what do you think about this play? I think this is absolute bullshit. I hope we get a couple of these with Matt Ryan. Hell yeah. But, I mean, this is terrible. We got a kick. Try to get a kick to the nuts. Ding, ding.

Not as nuts. Man, this is a heartbreaker, man. 2.56 left on the clock. Look at Art. 2.56 left on the clock. What do you think he's saying? He could be on the beach somewhere. Third and five to Connor's point.

You saved this play your whole game. And I had the same reaction. My dad's a billionaire. Why am I coaching football? I slept on a fucking couch when I could have been sleeping on satin sheets my whole life to fucking be a football coach. And now I got this fucking bullshit. Perfectly designed.

Perfect timing. About to beat the goddamn GOAT in the division. Everybody thinks we stink. Yeah. Dean Pease, man. His defense. Are you? Save that up.

Dean Pease, another Belichick disciple. Dialed it up. I mean, this is. Like, look at that. Like, look at that. I mean, it's a perfect. Look at that, man. It's perfectly run.

Like, perfectly executed on the D-line. We don't have any D-linemen on here. We will in future. People's contracts will kind of end other places. And't have any D-linemen on here. We will in future. People's contracts will kind of end other places, and we'll add D-linemen into it. I would love to hear, first of all, you ever go into a D-lineman room in any football building, it's the most

entertaining room. Best position group in locker room basketball. D-linemen. The vibes radiating from every D-line room are ones that you want to peek your head in, would like to listen to, and see what's going on. If we had a D-line. The vibes radiating from every D-line room are ones that you want to peek your head in, would like to listen to, and see what's going on. If we had a D-lineman on this show, they would be going fucking bananas at this perfectly actually.

They're like, everybody did it. 47 just took one for the team. He said, look, I'll do a spin move and a few people. He killed. That guy's an edge rusher. He's like, nah, I'll fucking eat up two or three blockers for this. Everybody bought in for Grady Jarrett to get home. And when he gets home, he's gentle with the guy.

Gets off of him quick, runs to the sideline. Celebrate with your teammates. Go celebrate with your teammates. And this is a huge moment. Third and five. Third and five. We get him down. Now we give our offense an opportunity.

It's a six-point game, so we score a kick-off point. We'll probably win it. Tough, tough, tough way. Greeny's right. All football people did talk about that being a bad call. Yeah. And that's why every person that comes in here, I'm going to show it to them. Hey, what are your thoughts?

What's going on here? That's not football. I mean, that's like perfectly executed football from the defense side of the ball, and they don't get paid off for it at all. It's like that can't happen at the highest level. What if he has an incentive and he comes one sack short? Oh. And that is the one. two and a half million dollars exactly man sacks always devastating yeah just like picks are always money for dbs and we're lucky that

you break them all down for us ladies and gentlemen everything db all right we're gonna get out of here as they try to fix the things that were broken today but weren't broken yesterday right they're smarter than us remember that the people that are here are very good people we have great people people came in town yeah the people that are here we we have great relationship with a lot of new people coming in and out here though because some job has to be done by somebody who's a specialist and it's like okay that makes sense and then they leave and everything's broken. But they probably, I bet they say, when I left, though, it was all squared away.

Everything was perfect. Of course. But we have cameras here, you know. And the coincidence just so happens to be, like, every time that camera picks somebody going into this room, the next show that we have, something's fucked. Yep. So I'm not the smartest person. I can't code. I can't do all the technology stuff.

I'm not the smartest person. I can't code. I can't do all the technology stuff. I try to learn as much as possible at all times because I think it's a good piece of information to have going forward, especially with how much money we paid for all this stuff and the people we employed and everything. So I have a pretty, you know, very elementary grasp on how it all works. But the one thing I do know, and I can be astute,

is that somebody we don't know goes in there. The next show we're fucked. Every single time. Which then leads to, to like how come we bought the most fickle machines of all time you know that's another thing raises the question because the people who bought them might be thinking hey if we buy the bad one they're gonna have to pay us all right now we're naive we're normally like people are good people but it seems like whenever you're trying to correct something that is in your sphere you might be be just saying, oh, fuck everything else, you know, and unplugging other stuff.

We just can't have that happen. We're four weeks into it. We'll be back tomorrow. Hell yeah. Zito? It's kind of like buying a Ferrari, like a Lambo or something. When something goes wrong, it's like, you know, you buy that old F-150. That bad boy's good for $300,000.

Right. You can't get a robot with that one. No, no. You can get from A to B every single day until you can't when there's a power lever outside. That's right. Remember,

we used to have the F-150 downtown. Yeah, exactly. And then somebody was siphoning our gas because we basically... What? Yeah, that was outside the last office.

The last office had an actual... It was like a kill switch. Like a movie size. Like, literally the size of my arm. That was red. And you just pull it down and it cuts off all power to our building. Basically said, size of my arm. That was red. And you just pull it down and it cuts off all power. Basically said pull me on it.

Yeah, pretty much. Never happened before. And then it happened about five times in a month. Can't protect it either because that's a code violation. Have to keep that. So we have to keep the power switch that is six foot tall right outside of our office. Yeah, code. Can't wait to get out of here.

Can't wait to get out of here. Can't wait to get out of here. Now we get here. Now it's much smaller little switches that are just getting moved back here. One way or the other, we'll get it figured out, AJ. We'll get it figured out, won't we? I mean, the switch, the big old lever down at the downtown place seems a bit tough with all the different random people walking around. Anyone could just pull that thing.

Yeah, I'll say. Random people. They did. We had problems. Hey, won't you have a generator? It was a full kill switch to the entire block. Yeah, right. I don't know what it... It was incredible. It's unbelievable. It's code. Can't chain it up.

It's code. Somebody's going to grab that thing. Now that we're gone, I kind of want to go back and pull it to be honest. It's illegal. That's against code. Can't do it. Everything DB was awesome. AJ, you were fantastic. We didn't have any guests on today. We apologize to

Jonathan Stewart and Gabe Davis. It is 100% our fault. Our shit's fault. We appreciate them potentially taking time to chat with us. Hopefully, we'll be able to do that tomorrow. When we wake up tomorrow, AJ, we are in our football game. When we wake up, I might not get go to another football game. When we wake up, I might not go to sleep. Me neither.

No point. It's going to be a barn burn, I'm telling you. It's all about managing expectations. Everyone's expectations are super low, so it's going to be awesome. Commanders, Bears, one week removed from the prime shit bowl. How will Carson and Ron Rivera

who have made bygones be bygones and the commanders traveling to chicago the third largest city in the united states of america commanders bears thursday night al michaels kirk herb street by prime if you don't have it this is a once in a lifetime matchup that if you miss you'll'll regret. Let's go to bed. Let's have a good one. Let's wake up tomorrow excited about an epic battle of Titans, a clash of the colossal tomorrow night on

Prime, AJ Hawk. Can't wait. I bet Al is so juiced. Can you imagine? He was so pumped up last game. This game, he is going to be on fire. What did he say last week? You know, sometimes a game can be so bad, it's good. Do you know what I mean, Herbie? No. No. I love that.

Al's the man. Well, it feels like Herbie and Al, though, are starting to – Yeah, they're fighting their groove. They are. Yeah, they've both done it. Like, Al obviously has done it since 1970. I think he had a 50th anniversary of calling games or something like that. I think in 50 years he's been doing it.

Herbie, though, you know, this is like people judge Aaron next to Tom because they're like, oh, Aaron's not that old. It's like, you know, he's 30 fucking years. I mean, he is. He's been around a long time. They're like, yeah, Tom's 44, though, 45. It's like, get it. He's been around a long time.

Al Michaels, 50 years. Herbie's been doing like 20 years worth of. Yeah. A long time. You know what I mean? A lot of hours. Yeah, both very, you know, good. I bet both have their own ways of doing things.

Seems like they're able to come together and connect in a very good manner. I love listening to them. Love the prime vision. Can't wait to watch the commanders. So thankful for you, Darius. And I can't wait to watch you bury home. A money shot for the people. D, but if you make one of these shots, whether

it's the two basketballs, two footballs, or anything else you throw, we will give 10 people who retweet this $500. Now, to absolutely qualify, you have to not only retweet the tweet, but you have to reply with saying something nice to somebody. I said some mean stuff to somebody earlier. He deserved it. But on the Internet, you should say something nice to somebody,

a little bit more positivity, and put your cash tag in there. And 10 randoms will win $500 because our guy, Darius J. Butler, knocked down a money shot to end this glorious winter Wednesday, October 12, 2022. Come on, D-Bob. I've got to go back to the bank. Is it open? Nope, too high. Sorry. You got another opportunity.

Hit the backboard. I know. You look incredibly cool today. The outfit is very fresh. Thank you, Kutz. Connor said it hit the backboard. At least this one hit. Uh-oh.

That's it. Oh, it's coming back. It's coming back. It's coming back. Shit. Bones ball. Bones ball. Bones ball.

Very tight today, G-Roy. Bonus ball. Ladies and gentlemen, D ball, bonus ball. They're tight today, is he right? Bonus ball. Ladies and gentlemen, Darius. Sweet ball shooter thing. Hey, thank you. Yeah, it's awesome. Yeah, kick. Dr. Dish one, D-Butt zero.

Yeah, D-Butt, D-Butt won 17 of 50 earlier. Yeah, he's despicable. You gotta get over the net, it's hard. Yeah, you just gotta have a job. Not really. Man, Darius got one, that's why. 10 people! Oh geez. Ah! That was a a job. Not really. And Darius got one, that's why. Ten people. Geez.

That was a moon ball. Sorry, people. Ball came back to you. Ball's gone. Football, football, football right there. Football, football, football, football. Putting in ten people will win $500. You randomly reach out to your Darius brother.

What's this? My gosh. Dorsal. Dorsal. Dorsal. Dorsal. Dorsal. Dorsal. Dorsal. Dorsal. Dorsal. Dorsal. Dorsal. Dorsal. Dorsal. Dorsal. Dorsal. Oh my gosh

You got more books throw some of the books Nice that's it. That's nothing in it, there's nothing in it. I drank them, I got energy. Yeah, I got the hop in. Nice, that's in. That's the one we need. Don't throw Jesus, don't throw Jesus. Hey, Frisbee a couple books, D-Bart. Those are some good books. We got George, we got 1984, yeah. You wanna read it or you wanna swear?

I'll read it. I've read a couple of them. Here you go. I can't throw the mastery of love. Okay. Yeah, you gotta master the throw Oh Alright Tough day

Better day tomorrow Yeah we will I hope I blame the shit It's the network It's the network. It's the network. It's the network. Two times during this show, big pops in my ear. I blew out both my ear drums.

Sure. And I lost sound to everything. I didn't have to show lost sound in my ear or if I actually did lose hearing. Tomorrow we're not going to have that. No, no, no. No chance. Tomorrow Darius is going to make a shot. Hell yeah.

Coach Pagano is going to make a shot. Tomorrow, we got commanders and bears to talk about. More stories. Tomorrow is the day that we've been dreaming of, AJ. We can't thank you enough for joining us. You're the man. Thank you to everybody that watches. We'll win some money for you tomorrow.

Hell yeah. Have a great one. We'll see you in about 20 hours and 41 minutes. Boom. Have a good one. Cheers.