The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 768 - Monday Night Football Recap, Aaron Rodgers Tuesday Season 3 Week 7, Jordan Schultz, In The Trenches With AQ Shipley LIVE From The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: October 25, 2022

On today’s show, Pat, AQ Shipley, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about last night’s Monday Night Football game that saw the Chicago Bears absolutely demolish the New England Patriots and Boston Connor must atone for everything that he said on yesterday’s show, as well as the potentially Quarterback controversy brewing for the Patriots. Joining the progrum to chat about all the different potential moves being made as we approach the trade deadline is everyone’s favorite Insider, Jordan Schultz (36:52-57:25). Next, Back-to-Back/4x MVP, Super Bowl Champion/MVP, proprietor of his own book club, QB of the Green Bay Packers, Aaron Rodgers joins the progrum to chat about last week’s tough loss against the Commanders, what the Packers need to do to turn things around, what the problem is right now, and how they’re approaching the Bills this week (1:44:01-2:16:11). Later, we go In the Trenches with AQ Shipley as he breaks down the best offensive line play of the last week (2:16:13-2:54:17). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people. It is Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, October 25th, 2022. And this sports show starts right now. Football is glorious because football provides us with all of the emotions. We get excited, we get happy, we get sad, we get mad. But today we're mostly glad because a friend of ours had a night that nightmares are literally made of. AQ Shipley will be on the stage all day today on this Aaron Rodgers Tuesday. We'll go in the trenches with him later. AQ, it's great to see you. Let's go. One half of the Hammer, Don Cowboys, Tone Diggs is here.

I can't wait to hear what your big brain is thinking about the state of the NFL and the game last night. The toxic table is here at Ty Schmidt and at Boston Connor. Last night, the Chicago Bears. That's right. Aviva Lazzito. That's right.

Chicago Bears fan. A president was on with the Mannings last night. Don't sleep on burial. What a dream come true for Zito last night was. The Bears beat the Patriots 33-14 in Gillette Stadium. The Bears get a massive win in halt or delay. Bill Belichick passing Papa George Hallis for the number two overall

in wins for a head coach in NFL's history. And before we talk about the game, let's hop on a train from just yesterday. You say could, I just don't think we can put it at could anymore. I think we will see him tonight move up to 325. Legitimately, I haven't been this confident in a Patriots game in two, three years. Legitimately. Oh, no!

I'm setting up for you to be me and Tiedemann. Sure, sure. That's fine. It could be. But let's keep in mind, we have all watched the Bears on primetime. The Bears just are not a good football team. Oh, no! That might be 41-3, one extra field goal.

Alternate spread. Are you going to change it a little bit after seeing the fog over there? Yeah, this morning I took him at 13.5. Before the show, I took him at 20.5. And then after the show, I'll take him at 28.5. Oh, no! How much Bill loves football history. What better way

to honor George Hallis, an all-time great coach, by beating the fuck out of his team. Give me a good night. 325 wins. What a fucking dog. Oh, no! Don't lose to the Bears tonight. Don't lose to the Bears.

You hear me? Don't worry. You know what I'm going through today. You better not fucking lose to the Bears. I don't know what you're going through because we've never had a big, dumb, dipshit as a head coach. Oh, my God.

Sorry. You lose to the Bears? Yeah. Guess what we're going to be saying about Bill Belichick. What's that? This guy was once a good head coach. Now what is he?

Oh, he's just a miserable, big, dumb dipshit. Turns out Matt Patricia's a better offensive coordinator than every single team in this room. Think about that. Think about that. Oh, no! It was fantastic to aboard the Oh No Express. Connor, your team got its ass beat last night. You had so much confidence going into that Monday night football matchup that was supposed to be historic.

You repeatedly, like we just saw on the train there, just banked on it. Banked on it. Banked on it. Here we are, Tuesday, October 25th. Your team's fucking dead. You guys lose to the Chicago Bears. They're down on Monday Night Football. Wow.

Oh, no! Your thoughts, Connor? At home, nonetheless. You lose to the Chicago Bears on Monday Night Football. You know, it is what it is. Football is football. Yesterday you said, you know, all these things that happened the week before. It doesn't matter for the next week.

And here we are, proving that that is true because the Patriots have looked so good these last two weeks before yesterday, and the Bears have not. And then we come out on a night that was supposed to be remembered forever for the Patriots. Realistically, you know, not only is Mac Jones coming back, maybe reestablishing himself as the future of the Patriots. Not only did Bill Belichick get a haircut from the photo that you posted, he looked unbelievable.

Not only were we supposed to set that record for Bill Belichick against the team, passing the coach of the team that he coached for, but we got our asses kicked. And not only did the minus 13.5 alternate spread bet not hit, not only did the minus 20.5 spread bet not hit, not only did the minus 20 and a half spread bet not hit. Not only did the minus 34 and a half bet spread hit not hit. None of my bets hit. And because of that, I will not be able to gamble at FanDuel or anywhere

for the rest of my life, I don't think, because of those losses. However, you know, it's a humbling experience. I'm very glad that we're getting this game out of the way. Oh, listen to this. Wow. Oh, the humble corner. Week seven. Ty, you sit next to

him every single day on the toxic table and you you're gonna look ahead is that what you're about to do did i hear you're about to just move on you're gonna look ahead oh of course we're always on to new york but i'm just saying i'm glad that we're getting this game week seven and not you know week 15 so the wheels really you guys i mean that was an embarrassment last night okay and i'm not saying it's an embarrassment because they lost to the Bears. The Bears appear to have a weapon in Justin Fields. And our sources have told us that Justin Fields maybe did ask for a little bit more opportunity to run the Rock. Stormed the office.

Because we had stormed the office. There you go. Is that the actual information? Right into Getze's office, he stormed in, kicked the door in, and said, I want more run plays. Okay. I want to win. And that's an interesting thing because a lot of quarterbacks are saying, I don't want to run the ball as much.

I don't want to take as many shots. I don't want to be hurt. I want to think about the longevity of my career. And what we were saying after the last Bears game is, you know, longevity of a career is good. But if you can be great, you're going to make a lot more money. Your career is going to be a lot better. Yeah.

They need to utilize what makes Justin Fields potentially great. And that is he is a specimen. He is a great athlete. He runs hard. Has good vision and seems to be a little bit of a dog in the open field. They started drawing a place for him to run. I think we'll look at a couple in the trenches later with A.Q.

Shipley, but Justin Fields showed up and showed out on Monday Night Football. The Bears defense did as well. Bailey Zappi got a couple shots in. Mack Jones did not. Not even a few. I mean, he got benched early. Ask Ian Rappaport, how long's the leash?

How long's the leash, you know, on old Mack Jones? And he laughed and he said, well, if Mack throws three picks, we all know what we're all going to be saying and what's going to be happening. Didn't need to do three. Only threw one. Had two other three and outs, and that motherfucker was out of the goddamn game. Bailey Zappi's in there.

Bill Belichick's spinning a web that was planned all along. We're going to play both quarterbacks in the second half. Just got a little bit out of hand. There's no reason to put our quarterback. Just came back off injury in the game. Whatever the case, miscommunication seemed to be everywhere. Bailey Zappi said he didn't know he wasn't starting until we all found out that Mac Jones was starting, and that was like at the kickoff of the game, actual game time decision.

Very interesting stuff happening out of New England. I think we can all agree on that. This isn't normally the New England Patriot way. There's a little disarray. There's a little miscommunication. And do you hear the way he's speaking, Todd? Do you think the fans noticed that and they've quit on the season already, Todd? Yeah, I think so.

I mean, that's the one nice thing about, you know, like our situations is, hey, that happens on Sunday, you get overreaction Monday, and then you can kind of put that to bed, and then you start looking ahead to the next week. When you lose on Monday Night Football in primetime, only game in town, and you look as bad as they looked last night, you got a one-way ticket to Poopsville. And that's it. On the Ono Express. On the Ono Express, one-way ticket to Poopsville. And that's on the Ono Express. On the Ono Express, one-way ticket to Poopsville, boom! And you're plopping right out of the cave.

That's right. The Ono Express is coming out of the cave because you think the light's at the end of the tunnel. You're getting there. It is hellacious in the Ono Express in the middle of that tunnel. You see nothing. It's pitch black. Then you see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Okay, things are happening. Then once you get out there, guess what? Poopsville, boom! It's not the light at the end of the tunnel. It are happening then once you get out there guess what poopsville boom it's not the light at the end of the tunnel it's actually a fucking train coming back the other way that's right that is what the oh no express is and it felt like the patriots were on it all night last night it did well and you know i mean connor just yesterday was thinking hey i'm on a first class ticket you know flying uh quantus air to to wherever my next destination is he's on drake air? Exactly. He's on Drake Air. He's eating caviar, drinking champagne. We're going to the playoffs.

And then this morning, he's got a coach seat on the Poopsville train to Poopsville. Boom! And it's not fun, but that's the way it goes. That's the NFL, baby. That's the NFL, baby. I mean, it's wild. We were talking about it yesterday. You know what would make sense for this NFL season was if the Bears would beat New England

on Monday night in Gillette. Because the way New England was going and the way the Bears were going, like trying to figure it out, are they going to be a team? Are they not going to be a team? They're still below 500, but fucking A, if I'm a Bears fan, shout out to Barry O and Viva Lizito. I think you have a lot of promise for what Justin Fields could be, what the offense could be. There was a play last night, AQ, as soon as he came in, he said, hey, let me of promise for what Justin Fields could be, what the offense could be. There was a play last night, AQ, like, as soon as he came in, he said, hey, let me show you something. Justin Fields makes a check. It was supposed to be like a run or whatever.

Sees a blitz coming, makes a check, calls a screen. We're fucking out the gate for a touchdown. Like, that's Justin Fields taking command of the offense, having confidence enough to fucking do it, as opposed to the conversation being, he's trying to figure out how to breathe in big moments, which was happening this season, which is a bit alarming. But, yeah, in this particular play, you go back to the conversation being he's trying to figure out how to breathe in big moments which was happening this season which is a bit alarming but yeah in this particular play you go back to the beginning of that thing aq pointing this out i guess we don't have the

very very beginning but at the very beginning of that play he sees the blitz coming from bentley i believe on the right side they kind of come in and he makes a check like this through his helmet old tight end because he realized the message it was probably supposed to be a different play they turn it into a screen outside we're out out. Boom. Touchdown. That's Justin Fields reading the defense, having confidence to call it, making the right call, and then them executing and fucking scoring. Like if you're a Bears fan, how much different is this than the last like what, seven years basically other than the year where the double doink happened where you had no hope for the offensive side of the ball. Feels like on Monday Night Football against the Patriots,

who are always going to have a good defense, who are always going to have a good scheme. Remember, they make you play left-handed. That's literally what people say about Bill Belichick's defenses. The Bears were able to fucking move, and Justin Fields was able to operate. And him showcasing the run and them planning some more runs, I think the Bears fans should be very pumped about what they saw last night.

AQ, do you think so too? 100%. I think that was awesome to watch. It was really cool to see because you're right. Bill Belichick takes away what he wants you to take away, right? And so they have not shown this. This was literally Getze, Fields getting together and saying, hey, listen, we need to do this.

So they have not shown a ton of QB runs. They have not shown a ton of this read option stuff. And so when they come out, Belichick hasn't seen it and it hits and it was cool to see it is so is that what people are going to start doing to belichick hey he's gonna make his play left-handed cool we know that let's put a whole new fucking game plan in here that might make our team better than it's ever been and we might use this going forward if justin fields is going to be the runner and if justin fields is going to be the threat that he's going to be that he showed he could be last night are you fucking worried there in green bay about the fucking bears the bears being a problem for you as well well we'll see i mean they have the same record as

as the packers right now but it does like hopefully he can stay healthy but you watch that last night it is kind of like shades of robert griffin before he got hurt you know it's like he he has great arm talent. I don't know about him, you know, throwing like the. He threw a dart last night. There was a fucking. He threw like a javelin last night. Yeah.

It was like, damn. Okay, guy's got an absolute hose. And he can throw the deep ball. So it's like if you have to account for that. And then also it's like, hey, at any point, whether it's a design run or a scramble, like this guy can get 10 yards, 12 yards anytime he wants. Did you guys stink?

Were you guys hurt? Or what do you think it was last night that made you guys look so inept against the Chicago Bears in 2022? I was also told the best D-line ever yesterday, by the way. By who? Oh, by Boston Connor over there. Oh, Boston Connor? Right over there, yep.

Don't know guy. This guy? That guy right there. Said the best D-line of all time. What happened? What did happen? I mean, aside from Drew Donner, our best D-line was out, but they lost their starting center, I mean, two plays into the goddamn game.

So it really doesn't make that big of a difference. That was a sad ride. Yeah, yeah. They need not show, I mean. Yeah, what are we doing? Show some respect. Can we get a far angle of him getting carded off and just say, he's getting carded off?

Just let you know. He looked like just a sad, sad man, which, by the way, he's getting carted off and just let you know he looked like just a sad sad man which by the way he's getting carted off it's a terrible time in his existence home team only because the away guys can't even give the thumbs up to the crowd on the way out yeah like that's a good moment when a guy for the home team gets injured and he can give like a salute or a thumbs up you know get that hey lucas well if you're all right hey sorry about it godspeed on the recovery. But, yeah, he's out, and they still were able to do their thing against the Patriots.

Yeah, I mean, they beat the fuck out of us, and we might stink. We might be middle of the pack, and that's why, you know, I'm so grateful for teams like the Buffalo Bills and the Kansas City Chiefs because if there weren't those two who are just levels above everybody else in the AFC, it would be heartbreaking right now. For instance, if you're a Bengals fan or a Chargers fan or you can even probably throw the Ravens in there, having those guys during this era of Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes is going to be such a bummer for those fan bases in those cities.

Isn't it? Because they're going to be heartbroken for the next 10 years, and I don't have to be heartbroken anymore because every year I can go in and say there's no way we're winning the Super Bowl this year. Realistic expectation. Exactly. And why is that? Because Tom's not there anymore.

I don't know. Is that what it is? Is that what it is? Is that what it is? Is it because Tom isn't there anymore? Is that why you guys aren't good anymore? Is that why you have no expectations going in? Patriots have the same record as Tom Brady and the Bucs.

So I wouldn't say go that far just yet. But it is a much different team when you don't know who the guy is that quarterback like the the team you saw that quarterback controversy happening in new england not just in the media in the locker room as well the team had no idea what's going on yeah and i assume that this was just bill's idea a way to motivate and keep everybody uh fresh and not judging anything and just going to work matt gets work on on Saturday. I guess Bailey Zappi got to work all the other days. And then when Bailey Zappi comes in, he throws one ball down the left side, incredible catch.

Then the touchdown that he throws, incredible connection. But everything got better for the Patriots as soon as Bailey Zappi went in. It was like a zap of electricity whenever old Zappi came into the Patriots. Now, that certainly fizzled off and did not do much the entire second half at all. But that's an interesting situation to be happening in New England of all places with the greatest coach and GM of all time, knowing that that type of shit doesn't normally lead to success in the NFL. College, maybe.

NFL, I don't think quarterback controversy is a good thing to have in the middle of the season. AQ, your thoughts on it. Not a good thing at all. I mean, you cannot do the platoon system. So if that's their game plan going forward. Which he said it was, right? That's basically what Bill was saying, was like, yeah, that's playing off. Who knew that? Me. Anybody else? No. Okay. So was it a plan or was it just your idea? Yeah. Because if it's in your head,

did like Matt, Patricia, Joe Judge knew that they were going to be rotating, and is it just after each pick he was going to change back to the other person? And when Zappi did it, it was already out of control, so he was like, we already lost. I don't think I understand at all how he's going to sell what he was thinking, but he doesn't have to sell it. No, no. He doesn't have to sell it at all. But nonetheless, you don't expect that type of shit to be happening

in a New England camp at all. Ever. Over the last 20-some years. No, because also if max starts nine of ten for you know 120 some yards and throws a touchdown like he's not getting benched he's staying in the game and he's going to continue you know it just it makes no sense like he got benched because he wasn't playing worth shit yeah well that's not what bill said and is bill saying that because he might go back to mac here after how zappy didn't he has has to keep Mac's, you know, moxie.

He's got to keep his level of confidence at something, so he goes back in there. I did enjoy a left-handed high-five from Mac to Zappy. Yeah, smiling. Because Mac, you know, from all accounts, right, everybody likes him. Yeah, for sure. One fake story about Mac not being liked that came from somebody who worked at the stadium or something. DM from a random guy to a quote-unquote insider. Which could create a dangerous narrative to create out of nowhere, especially with how and what that guy was going through.

So very interesting that that one just went unchecked and let everybody think of, oh, Mac, not a good teammate, even though he is by all accounts. Everybody absolutely loves the guy. I mean, Jacoby Myers came out and said something about Mack working as hard as he could to get back, and then he gets booed. Zappy chants happen. Then he gets back. Yeah, Jacoby said it was disgusting, right?

I said it's disgusting. Jacoby said it was ugly, I think. You said it's disgusting. Zappy chants, first three and out. This dude just got back. Their zappy chants faintly. I thought it was Bailey they were chanting. It was clearly zappy because of the later chants that I had heard.

But as they were going to break, it was a faint. I'm like, I actually went back. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait a minute. Are they already doing this? Because just a couple years ago, when he came into a preseason game in the third quarter, the place went absolutely crazy. Guy makes a Pro Bowl.

We're going to the Super Bowl. Oh, how things can change in three fucking weeks. This guy is now getting somebody else's chance. That's the NFL. That's the name of the game. But I found that to be wild. But it's because of how much success Zappi was having. And Zappi comes in, has immediate success.

I'm like, this is about to be a runaway. The Bears hold, hold, hold, and fucking come back. Not only just come back, come back and dominate. And I think a lot of credit should be given to Ibraflues. He was with the Colts. A lot of credit should be going to Sirioi over in Philadelphia. He was with the Colts.

So that's what we do here. We create great football minds. That's right. And great football coaches. Sign old quarterbacks who are expensive. All right. And ship those good coaches out. All right.

And promise at least two superpowers. That is the – He's deflecting again. That is. Yeah, you are. Don't be – Hey, we're talking about the Colts and their coaching staff. No, we were talking about the coaches who are coaching at other places

who just so happen to come from Indianapolis and be a head coach factory like that Washington football team was back in the day. And does our future look like theirs? Oh, no. I mean, a new name would be sweet. Keep the train off. Keep the train off. We do not need to get on the Oh No Express.

Oh, boy. No, no, no. We do not need to get on the Oh No Express yet. Oh, no. Oh, no. Sam Allinger, he. Sam Ellinger. He's going to be great. Yeah, Sam.

If anyone could save the organization, it's Sam Ellinger. You see this? Fucking 12 different quarterbacks in the last, like, four or five years or whatever. Well, there's not one person to blame for that. Who's that? Like a Mr. Architect himself. Oh, come on. Who's that?

I think he's talking about Andrew Luck. He's right. No, he got hurt. Andrew, what do you want? That happens in football. Andrew gave his liver, his kidney, his shoulder, a bunch of his ribs. Got hurt by him. I assume a spleen.

Yeah, probably. Certainly amount of time and brain investment to this team, to the city. He was getting his dick kicked in on a regular basis, and that's not great for offense. On and off. Way to go, AQ. He could have retired in April, though, not nine days before the season started. Well, that is something that if you're Chris Ballard

and you're being asked about the creation of the team that you got to put together here in Indianapolis, he's probably mentioning that a lot. But that was, you know, we've had some years to correct the cycle, is what everybody else was saying. True. And $140-some million has been spent on quarterbacks. That stat came out from Spotrak, and we know we've been paying a lot of people.

But Luck was a guy. He's a generational player. You got to play alongside of him. You played with a lot of good guys. Luck on the football field was an absolute fucking dude. Incredible. Incredible at football. Incredible. with a lot of good guys. Luck on the football field was an absolute fucking dude. Incredible. Incredible football. Incredible. I mean, he was unbelievable. He was so talented.

And then you see these injuries happen and he walks away and you're like, he could have been one of the best. The NFL fans missed. I think NFL fans missed that one. Now, I know you're in Pittsburgh. You're in Iowa. You're in New England. You're in Chicago. You're in Michigan. Bruce is in the Uppville. Dirty's in Iowa. You're in New England. You're in Chicago. You're in Michigan. Bruce is in the upville.

Dirty's in Virginia. Bill's out here in Indianapolis. So he got to see it. I got to see the look, like the way look. He was so fucking good. So talented. People saw him on primetime, won a bunch of those. People saw him in the playoffs, were able to make a run at that one time until he lost by 50.

But people didn't have all the air in the ball. You tell me if that's fair or not. Still got a banner from him. were able to make a run at that one time until we lost by 50, but people didn't have all the air in the ball. You tell me if that's fair or not. Still got a banner from him. You're damn right, but didn't get to see him on TV as much. So I don't think everybody really fully, they understand that Andrew Luck was good, but I don't think you fully comprehend the motherfucker was,

he was a guy. He was top guy. It would be Mahomes, Allen, and Luck right now at the top of the AFC would be fucking epic to watch if it would have happened. But obviously his career gets cut short because of injuries and also opportunity outside of football that is real high society. I mean, you're talking like some of the best jobs on earth. Like people go to school, pay a lot of money to go to to school have to have the best brains on earth to get these jobs that are very high paying and i think a lot of freedom and a lot of artistic you know like everything in there he just fucking just gets to do like yeah am i going to continue to ruin my body okay potentially brain with this or am i going to go take one of the most highly sought after jobs in the fucking world whenever i want

it because of how smart i am off a football field. Like, I think that needs to be talked about a little bit more. Like, Luck was a once in a generation fucking dude. He retires nine days before a season starts because the injury is already accruing again and not wanting to get back into it. And I don't think I've talked to him or anybody has talked to him publicly about what he has and why. And I'm excited for that documentary at some point that's going to come about how it all unfolded really behind the scenes. But then that puts Ballard into like a desperation cycle almost.

And that desperation cycle got very expensive. And now here we are after week seven in fucking Matt Ryan, who is owed $24 million this year, another $12.5 million or $14 million next year, so like $30, $40 million, he's benched after week seven. And it's like, what does that mean for everything else going on? I have no idea. But maybe Sam Ellinger just goes on a fucking tear. Maybe Sam...

What are you doing? What's that about? What are you talking about? What, Al? Well, there's two things, right? Whoa, whoa, whoa. No, there's two things, right? Whoa, whoa. No, there's one thing. Sam Ellinger.

Yeah. Well, the first thing. We're back. That's Matt McConaughey. That's right. He's tweeting Sam Ellinger. Hell yeah, look. Made for the moment.

Moment. Hashtag hook him. Hook him. All right, all right, all right. The Colts are fucking McConaughey's team now. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. The Colts are going to win with Sam.

We used to stink, but now we're good again. Because we're back with Sam and Matt. Let's go, dude. What are you talking about? Why'd you give me the little side eye? You don't think this guy could be the guy? I've seen his ass, his trunk. He is huge in the bottom.

He is a great athlete. Now, does he have the experience and, you know, the understanding of what NFL defenses are, aside from just watching film alongside Matt Ryan and Carson Wentz and stuff like that? No. And is he getting baptized into the NFL in week eight of an NFL season when every team basically says you really get rolling

around week eight and he's just getting dropped into a team that, you know, hasn't really been excellent at much of anything. It's not set up for success for Sam. I don't think it's not the best situation, but just like McConaughey said, this motherfucker was made for the moment. We're going on a run. You don't believe that. What's that all about? The side eye. Thank you.

Thank you. This has nothing to do with his ability or what he may bring. This has everything to do with optics. We talk about optics a lot, do we not? Sure. It's exotic. So here's what happened. The minute.

The minute that was announced yesterday, that entire locker room said we just gave up on the season. We just gave up on the season. Can I ask? They don't believe it. They're like, Sammy, yeah. Not a chance. So does the locker room not watch practice and be like,

well, Sam's arm doesn't look like a noodle, so maybe we play it? I think at the end of the day, you go out and you put all your trust, faith, money into Matt Ryan. You make a trade. You go out and do this. This is, hey, we're going to the promised land with this guy. And the minute you move away

from that, the locker room goes, wow, we're rebuilding now. No. I heard everybody in there said it's fucking Sam time. That's right. There's fucking stairs from one side of the locker room to the other this morning

because the team rode in on their fucking cows, dude. What are you talking about? We mailed it in. This guy doesn't know. You have no idea about the power of a Texas Longhorn. Their men's basketball team about to win an ad. Sure. Sam Ellinger about to win some games for the Colts.

University of Texas might become my second favorite fucking university on earth. Yeah. In a matter of weeks. In this entire thing, pal. Tennessee gave me a great morning. Yeah. A great night. App State was very.

App State was really cool. Kansas also fun. Uh-huh. Well, fucking Texas. I'm a coach of the men's basketball. That's right. Okay, cool. They gave me a job.

What am I supposed to do? You and McConaughey are best friends. Yeah. Hang out on the weekends. Kevin Durant. I haven't met the director of culture, Matt McConaughey, yet. You smoke vitamins with Kevin Durant, probably, after you guys went to Natty. Oh, I love Kevin Durant.

Yeah, he's the man. And again, they're not testing for dope in the NBA this year. So I can make the NBA. That's right. So can Foxy. Well. Foxy fucking 38 to 50 on this Dr. Dish, pal. Yeah, but if one of the guys in the NBA puts their shoulder into Foxy's chest, he might die.

Oh, you're talking about that Kobe. I'm putting my shoulder right through this motherfucker's chest. That was awesome. And I don't want that to happen. That was awesome. For America, he did that. That was unbelievable. For America, he did that.

And went to hang out with him right before. Just a, oh, you pal, it's good to see you. Be pals with him. And then the next day, bam! First play. That's brothers. I guess. I mean, that is certainly a level of competition that I respect and appreciate people having.

And if you keep that into your adulthood, I get even more respect and appreciation for the amount of effort that takes to be that competitive all the time. But that's why that mama mentality is something that very few can attain and very few can accomplish. Paul Gasol is probably so fucking wild. What? You guys are going to beat us anyway. What? What are we even?

Okay, I guess that's cool. This is going to be a tough game. I guess. That's right. So meeting Sabrina and learning about Sabrina Ionescu, the way she, like, analyzed, like, she's, you know, that's why Kobe and I think that's why Kobe had such an affinity. Yeah, the way people were talking about her.

They were like, wait until you meet Sabrina. And I'm like, I can't wait. All-time leader of triple doubles in all of college basketball. We were on 39-1 or something. COVID canceled the national championship. She didn't even get to, to like experience a national championship or whatever yeah whenever she was at oregon and then now you know she's a world champion dominant in there and i asked her i'm like what type of you know she she's a dog huh like she and they're like

uh yeah they broke down this conversation and interaction they had with her after she had like i don't know probably like 25 15 and like 11 or something. She missed some layup in like the first quarter. So then she stuck around in the fucking gym for like seven hours afterwards, like doing the whole thing. I'm like, see, that's the effort level that nobody else has. Like that takes effort and everybody technically has it. Everybody technically can give effort and can control it. just your mind being like i will never ever ever do that again is just something that not a lot of people have and can attain i think that's what the separators are and now it's leading to a very public divorce yeah of course you know when it comes back to our sport it's hard to turn that off competition is a funny thing isn't it dude

competitive drive some people have it's insane like look at bill belichick i put that tweet out last night because they were going through all of his accolades and we're like you know kind of taking a trip through bill belichick's fucking life last night on monday night football and they show this picture of him same exact fucking costume hoodie sweats cut off looks like an absolute hilarious asshole at what he's doing the amount of time that this dude has had to invest of his life, not just coaching, right? Coaching takes forever. We talk about how long people that are coaching the NFL, how long they're in their office, how long they're doing whatever they're doing. A lot of people call it desk watching or whatever the case it is. And it's all bullshit, but nonetheless, that is the culture of the NFL, and I think they do that just as much as everybody else, if not more.

Then on top of that, he has to out-scheme everybody because he has four different defensive strategies every single game. Offense, they're changing every single game. But he also has to scout the talent. He's the GM. He also has to negotiate with fucking everybody through the week. They're picking up people for special teams because the bottom half of their roster gets hurt or gets cut they're having

workouts they're having to scout them and sign them negotiate with their agent well we want a little bit more guaranteed because we're taking we have an offer to work out this team and this team he has to make all those fucking decisions while coaching and doing the whole thing and he's done it for like fucking 50 years he's gonna do it the amount of time he has invested in the game. I think that is worthy of appreciation. Hey, thank you for what you've done for the game. Thank you, Bill. Love you, Bill. Now you can immediately follow up and say, what has his life

been other than football? And I assume there are moments where he accidentally starts slipping into that thought, but he has that competitive level that those people that are at that top level have, where it's just a never-ending pursuit of getting better doing more accomplishing it and just not allowing yourself to ever just get off the mission that type of shit not a lot of people have and i think that is what's missed in the conversation about bill belichick because he

you know there was spy gate and that's right, there was Spygate. That's right. And there was the Flakegate. That's like fucking 40 years ago. He's still coaching. So, like, from when Spygate was happening, he's still every fucking day doing the same thing he's been doing for that whole time. That is a full commitment to the game,

and I think we should say thank you to him every once in a while. With that being said, Ibraflus and Justin Fields went in there and just fucking ruined his entire celebration evening. There's other people that are doing the same exact thing. But I think what Bill has accomplished, just strictly from a work ethics standpoint, should be commended personally, I think. Well, we had Sirianni on earlier this year, and he said,

to be honest, I don't have a whole lot of hobbies outside of football. This is what I love to do. It's like a lot of people yeah they love football but then it's also you know you have whether it's fishing or you know whatever these guys do in the off season like i don't think it's crazy to think like he loves football more than anything you know his kids and his family notwithstanding but like he doesn't have a whole lot of things that he cares about outside of football, and that's fine with that because that's what happens when you- What's the percentage of people you think are like that? Because you got two, three from each sport, it feels like, almost like- The one of one?

Like the people that are just way of the- Because I think it's all competitive. I think it all relates to competitive fire or juices or however you do that. The people that are the most competitive seem to be the people. Now, you have to have talent. There's always those assholes that have no talent but are super competitive and get upset when they lose something. It's like, bro, fucking look in the... You stink.

You stink. Yeah, but I hate losing. It's like, well, then fucking don't do this because you stink at this. Like, you see those people at gyms and at workouts and stuff like that, guys getting actually upset. And it's like people that get actually mad at golf and let it ruin their entire lives

because they're golfing and they're not in a PGA. It's like, yo, bro, you are never going to be at the point. Like, I don't even think your swing could be molded into being, hey, me neither. Hey, you and I seem to be on similar pitch. But allowing that to get there, like some people have those competitive juices, but they don't have necessarily the talent. If you know what your talent is and you have that competitive juice that nobody else has, it's like I feel like those are the motherfuckers

that break through forever, and those are like the icons. But the amount of sacrifice that their brain forces them to go through is something that I don't think that's the reason why I think they are what they are. Well, and it's cool for Bill, too, because, like, you've talked about how B.A.'s kid turned 40, and he was like, holy shit, he's 40. I've missed all these years. Bill connected with his dad very well because of the fact that they were both so involved in football. And now both of Bill's sons coach for the Patriots.

So even though his life is all football, he still has that, like, other part of it where it's like, yeah, I'm doing this, but I also get to do it with my kids. Well, that's an awesome thing to tell your kids. Hey, I want to see Dad. Yeah. You're going to have to learn football. Pick up a fucking headset. You can play lacrosse with your friends.

But if we're ever going to really see each other, you're going to be watching the desk. And if you're watching your desk, you might as well learn what football is. You were a coach for what? One year? Two years? I don't even know if I made it a year. It might have been eight months. It's a different level.

That fucking commitment. It's crazy. It is crazy. Especially when you don't watch film and then the quarterback yells at you for being a fat bum. That doesn't help either. That happen to you? Never happened to me. Tom did that to you?

No, the moment. Tom told you that you guys, you're so much better than you're fucking playing right now. What the hell? After going to a wedding on Friday night, he did that to you? I thought this year was the first year that that happened. That's sad. No, but the very first start I had down in Tampa with Tom, we played in Carolina. And we beat them up pretty good.

Ronald Jones. Ironically, they just lost pretty good to Carolina. Yeah, they did. Are you the X Factor? Okay. They needed it. okay they need it whoa think of that remember that long run they had they put aq in and then ronald jones ran for like 90 yards right up the gun right up his ass right behind him right there i remember that 200 yards rushing big day big day at the office but oh yeah either here or there but at the office. That is your office, isn't it? There was a play where there's a lot of stuff going on, and I come up,

and I make the mic point, and I'm, like, making the call, and then I forget the fucking snap count. Here we go. And then I'm like, here we go. I'm just not going to snap the ball here. I don't know what it's on, and I don't want to snap it early because I don't want them to scream at me like, you know, other quarterbacks have, right?

So I don't snap it. Everybody else jumps. AQ, snap the fucking ball! Nice. Oh, here we are. I'm in the game now. I'm in the show. I'm in the show.

Here we go. I did it. I did it. Was that like second, third play? No, it was later in the game. It was like third quarter. So luckily we had a win at that point. You were probably okay with it, though, because he was at every practice that year and week

and wasn't missing stuff and he was invested and stuff? That's exactly right. He was the ultimate professional. I don't know what's going on right now. So if it were to happen Sunday, you would not be able to take it? No, listen. It would be harder

to take it. Barbarian meathead into a spot right now. But the conversations have to be happening. We talked about it, I think, yesterday with who gives a fuck? I forget who it was. We were talking to somebody. AJ and I were talking about how, maybe it was Rapsheet.

I guess it would have had to have been Rapsheet yesterday. We were talking about Rapsheet, about how, like, those conversations are happening, though. Like, in meetings, in locker rooms, away from Tom. There's a lot of people going, we appreciate Tom. Okay, we understand Tom's good. We love Tom. Some of us won a Super Bowl because of Tom. But also, like, hey, pal, there's some lot of people going, we appreciate Tom. We understand Tom's good. We love Tom. Some of us won a Super Bowl because of Tom. But also, like, hey, pal, there's some shit going.

That stuff's starting to happen. They've got to start winning, you know, or it's going to get – I don't want to say it's going to get ugly, but it will get ugly I think down there with some people. I honestly believe that it will potentially get a little bit ugly down there. The funny thing is winning corrects everything. Everything. Everything.

Like every little detail that gets exposed when you're losing gets overlooked when you're winning so he starts winning same thing right like in anything you start winning all that shit gets forgotten he talked uh on his let's go podcast yesterday took some accountability it sounded like excited about uh turning around and can't wait to hear what aaron says at 2 p.m today i'm excited for this conversation we in our aaron rogers tuesday history this is unprecedented third season aaron rogers tuesday hell yeah first year mvp a lot of wins yes second year mvp season a lot of wins this year they started 3-3 and everybody was like,

haven't had this happen in 20, whatever the case was for LaFleur and Aaron. This year, under.500, first time. What will Aaron say on this particular Aaron Rodgers Tuesday? Can't wait to hear his response. Yeah, I mean, like, I really have kind of kind of listen they have not looked good they've looked terrible and there is about as close to dead as you can be but then you watch that game last night it's like any team can get any team yeah why can't they beat the bills on sunday night the only difference i think is because he's mentioned it like people aren't looking at the

packers and saying oh this team fucking sucks they're three and four like the packers are getting every team's best shot every single week because they are the Packers and they have Rodgers. But this league is unpredictable. Who says they can't win on Sunday? Who says? And they need to. Joining us now is a man who probably has the answer on whether or not the Packers are going to turn around.

Tampa and Tom are on the same page. What's going on in Seattle? How's the vibes in Seattle, especially with the wins that they've been accruing and the way they've been doing it without Russell Wilson? What's going on with Lamar Jackson? How about Chicago? Ladies and gentlemen, the man who knows everything about the NFL,

Jordan Schultz. Hey, Schultz! Schultz, how you doing? What's up, big time college game day? I see you big time. Yeah, Schultz, he's trying to be like you, big time college game day? I see you, big time. Yeah, Schultz, trying to be like you one day, you know, trying to own one penthouse in New York, not ten like your family. But, hey, Schultz, how have you been?

We haven't talked to you in a while. What have you been? I miss you, man. I'm doing well. Doing well. I miss you guys all as well. Almost midway through the season. And, listen, I mean, you can't ask for a better time in the sports year.

I got the playoffs, baseball. My Mariners are out. But, hey, whatever time in the sports year i got the playoffs baseball my mariners are out but hey whatever who cares yeah mariners stink the mets are out pirates pirates didn't make the world series this year either maybe next year which is damn shame uh are you strictly football now are you still dabbling in basketball i didn't hear you even mention the nba is happening and i think that's where you used to be, right? Listen, I am a football guy. I love that gridiron. Yeah. But I still got my hoops background, my passion, my ability to be a slow Jewish basketball player who can make threes. I mean, that's always my passion.

Hey, respect. Let's dive into the NFL here. Let's talk. You know a little something about Seattle. I think you have a Seahawks helmet literally right over your right shoulder there we all know your ties to seattle with starbucks not to be confused with dumb starbucks no actual starbucks and seattle as a whole uh schultzy what are the vibes like yeah yeah you love the seahawks yeah oh yeah well that's a cool hat that's cool hat you good hair day today though too so don't put that. That's smart. What is the vibe like in Seattle?

Because I think going into the season, we all assumed once you trade Russell Wilson away, this year is going to be a wash. 70-whatever-year-old Pete Carroll is going to have to rebuild this team. They were saying, no, no, no, we like our team. Now Geno Smith is balling. Pete Carroll seems to be celebrating with everybody. They knew this was going to happen, and what are the vibes in the building, Jordan? Yeah, I mean, before the season, Patty, I was told that we feel, this is the Seahawks,

we feel like we're going to be competitive. I know Ian said the same thing. Like, everyone counted them out, especially in the NFC West, but they felt like Geno was going to have a good year, maybe not at this level, but they felt like we're going to be able to run the ball. And I think the two biggest surprises to the outside world, but not internally, are Kenneth Walker and Tariq Woolen. They might be the third team ever to have offensive and defensive rookie of the year. And I mention Woolen because he's a fifth-round pick out of UTSA, 6'4", 220, jumped 40 inches, 42 inches, ran a 4'3".

When I talked to DK about him, he basically said, this guy is very similar to me, just playing DB. Physically, we're very similar. He's a freak. And then you talk about the rookie, Kenneth Walker. This guy was a two-star recruit, goes to Wake Forest, splits carries, ultimately goes to Michigan State, wins the Doak Walker, wins the Walter Camp. Now he's a star, 168 yards, two tutties against the Chargers. Basically, with him, it's like, yeah, it sucks Rashad Penny got hurt,

but this guy is one of the few bell cows in the league right now. Like, how many running backs are you seeing getting 25 carries a game? That's him. So you complement that with DK as well as Lockett as well as Geno's play, then that's what you're seeing. So DK, he had tests done. He'll be out for a bit, right, with the injury. They have a couple injuries over there in Seattle, right?

I mean, I talked to him yesterday. He said he felt good. I know he wants to practice today. Pete does not want him to practice today. They have the Giants on Sunday. I think it's going to be tough for him to come back and play Sunday considering he has the patella. He's already had a previous knee issue with the patella.

Sunday I think is going to be tough, but I know he wants to go. Okay. He has the patella. He's already had a previous knee issue with the patella. Sunday, I think, is going to be tough, but I know he wants to go. Okay. I think it's going to be tough. I just think, realistically, you also mentioned Tyler having some injuries. This is about the time of the season where we see guys start to get hurt because there's so many injuries piling up in the middle of the year. To me, this is a big stretch for Seattle because they've overachieved.

They're 4-3. Now they've got the Giants who are 6-1, and they've overachieved. But, like, I almost feel like this is a who's who game. Okay. Schultz, he's obviously at the bottom of it. Oh, yeah. DK Metcalf seems like he's going to be back next week.

Don't expect him. He's in good spirits. I mean, he's a competitive guy. Like, he wants to play. It's tough to play on a knee. Schultz, we appreciate that information. We'll take that into our brains and act accordingly. Good for fucking DK.

Let's go. Good for DK because I think just a couple days ago that was a very different vibe. I'm happy he's going to be back. Let's bounce around to another injury. And I don't love, you know, just going injury to injury here. J.C. Jackson's out there with the Chargers. That's obviously sad. Brees Hall out.

Offensive lineman from the Jets is out. Is there anything that is still waiting, anybody that's waiting on tests that might come out this week that might, you know, also be out for some time here? I would just look at Evan Neal with the Giants. They're a left tackle, a right tackle out of Alabama. They've really bookended it, right, with Andrew Thomas and Evan Neal with the Giants. They're a left tackle, a right tackle out of Alabama. They've really bookended it, right, with Andrew Thomas and Evan Neal. And I think they're still trying to figure out how serious that injury is. They lost Bellinger.

Their tight end's played well. That would be the other one for me. But the J.C. Jackson injury, I mean, he hasn't played particularly well, but they did decide to do a massive deal. And they have high expectations for him, so that does hurt them. What a bad experience. The Brees Hall injury is incredibly sad as well. We'll watch him in Detroit. Go ahead. Yeah, the Brees Hall injury really sucks because he was playing

lights-out football. The Jets had a great one-two punch with him and Carter, but then they make that move last night that Ian broke to bring in James Robinson, a 24-year-old back who averages 4.5 yards per carry, 18 total touchdowns, he's similar to Breach. He can do some of the same things. I don't know if he's quite as explosive, but that was a really big get. And to me, if I'm a Jets fan, I'm fired up because it shows me Joe Douglas

and company are saying we want to win right now. Well, Woody Johnson has an Instagram account now. Of course he wants to win right now. He sees those comments. You said Christian McCaffrey was going to play in the first game there well before anybody. Hey, before anybody else. And we don't know if that was a shot in the dark

or an actual inside source, but what are you hearing about Christian McCaffrey? What are you hearing about Christian McCaffrey's workload going forward? It seemed like when they were giving him the ball, he was having success. And later in the game, if he would have been giving the ball, he might have taken some home run shots there because he's just a different type of back what are you hearing about them going forward with Christian McCaffrey since it appears if you have an inside source yeah it's

it's all out now I mean that was that first game was let's get him accustomed let's try and get Kyle to scheme up some stuff in the red zone they didn't have a lot of red zone opportunities the game got away from them I think they felt like okay he's in great shape but he doesn't really know the playbook at all so but I think now felt like, okay, he's in great shape, but he doesn't really know the playbook at all. But I think now moving forward, you know, Christian's a smart guy. I don't just want to say, oh, he's a Stanford guy, but he's a smart dude. He grew up around the NFL, obviously, with his dad, Ed. He really understands football, like, at a high level.

It is all out now. I think you're going to be looking at 20-plus touches a game. They have Jeff Wilson there. They got back Ty Davis Price, a kid they like at LSU. But this is going to be the Christian McCaffrey show. I cannot wait to watch that with Shanahan. AQ Shipley in the trenches host has this San Francisco 49ers team on it every

single week. They might lose games. AQ's like, you'll be good in the end. In the end, they'll be good. They'll be sound. Ain't that right? I agree. I agree. Okay. Hey. There you go. Let's go. Okay. Hey. There you go. Let's go. Thank you.

Connor. Isn't it always grain of salt with Schultz? Grain of salt? Yep. Yep. Respect. Connor, your question for Jordan Schultz? Yeah, Schultz, what's the status with what they're thinking with Geno Smith?

Obviously, right now they have like a top five pick. Would you see them taking a Stratton or a Bryce Young? Or do you think that they're going to sign Geno and kind of ride with him these next few years? That's one of the biggest questions in the NFL. You know, he's basically making three and a half million this year. He signed a one-year deal. He's 33. And I think on paper, 32, I think on paper, you would say, well, Seattle's probably going to move forward with the quarterback. I don't necessarily think that's the case. I'm not saying they're not going to consider drafting a quarterback in the top five, but

this is a guy in Geno Smith who has played like a top eight guy. You know, he has, not only is he not making mistakes, but he's winning you games. You know, I think the Arizona game is a good example where he didn't have his fastball, but he did just enough. They're calling enough plays for him to entrust him with the offense. That tells me Shane Waldron, the OC, and Pete Carroll really believe in what he's doing. I think if Geno had his way, they would love to find an extension this season. Like, let's not let it wait until the offseason.

I don't know if John's going to do that, but I can tell you that Geno wants to be there long-term. If you think about him, he's very comfortable in the offense. He loves the city. I talked to him last week. He's a happy guy right now. He would love to be there long-term. I don't know if they're quite there yet. Jay-Z fly out to talk to Schneider, get that deal done.

I believe Geno is part of Roc Nation. I believe he still is. One of the first signings, I think, of Roc Nation. Excited to see if he can get the long-term deal done. Bringing Will Anderson. I also saw Bruce Irvin, I think, is playing for them again. I fucking love that. Bruce Irvin's back.

But also Geno Wasserman now. Wasserman guy. Oh, he left Roc Nation. I think he's... I'll just say Wasserman. Let's just leave it at that. He's not a Jay-Z guy. he's – I'll just say Wasserman. Let's just leave it at that. It's not Jay-Z. I don't think I know a Wasserman.

Wasserman, aren't they an advertising agency or no? No, Wasserman's got a ton of dudes. Yeah, no, they got – Oh. They got your guy Najee Harris. Nosh. Nosh. Nosh.

Wasserman. Okay, here we go. Hey, congrats, Wasserman. Here we go, Wasserman. Let's get that deal done for Geno. Let's get that guy paid. He's found a home. He's throwing darts.

He's playing the best he's ever played. And thanks to Roc Nation taking a shot on Geno. Yeah. Hey, thanks for everything. Thanks for all the business. Thank you, Roc Nation. Thanks for all the business, everybody. Tony, your question for Jordan Schultz.

Schultz, there's a lot of big names being thrown out here before the trade deadline. What's a couple big names you're looking at that you think might get down here? What are you hearing? What are you hearing? What's the temperature? Bigger than McCaffrey? No. The guy that's come up the most when I talk to

teams is Brian Burns. The whole league wants him. Carolina, like everyone thought when Matt Rule got fired, this was going to be a full-on fire sale. I don't think they ever really thought that. I believe they were offered two ones for Burns and turned it down. He is someone that the entire league feels like is a superstar.

I think you start to think, okay, is there anybody else in Carolina? The name that comes to mind is Derrick Brown. Third-year guy to Auburn, has kind of quietly played really well, former first-round pick. I wonder if he would be available. The Panthers do like him, but if you think about the right asking price, that would be someone that I would feel like maybe a little bit more realistic to

get dealt, and a guy that teams do like. So you think about two defenders there. Obviously, Denzel Mims has been mentioned. Kadarius Toney. Darius Slayton's another guy, but the Giants really like him. If I'm the Packers, I'm going to go out and try to get a wide receiver. Obviously, Randall's hurt. Dobbs has been up and down.

Watson's been a little bit hurt. They need a receiver. I wouldn't be surprised if they go after someone. Yeah, Lazard, I believe, is a little bit injured as well right now. Brian Burns, they turned down two ones for they're not gonna trade him right that that was basically that was sending a message to everybody whenever that gets leaked publicly like hey the panthers have turned down two ones for a trade request for brian birds that was them telling everybody we're not trading this guy right i assume that's what you're how you read

that as well and your people yeah well or or like if you want them you know pony up even more like we're this is not he's 26 he hasn't gotten paid i think they feel like he's going to be a part of the long-term long-term future jeremy chin that would affect i yeah i think you're probably right back yeah so i if i'm giving up more than two ones and i gotta pay the guy that sounds like a terrible deal yeah but i mean he's a player he's a hell of a player another free agent that is out there who hasn't signed with anybody yet, but the Chiefs, you know, they re-figure Travis Kelsey's contract to open up $3.455 million.

Then it comes out that that had nothing to do with the man I'm about to ask you about, Odell Beckham Jr. Does he still have his options? You talk to OBJ? You and Schultz see an OBJ chit-chat in a little bit? Full transparency, I have not talked to OBJ, but have talked to people around him. And I know the Rams still have his rights, per se.

I think given what's happened, I would be surprised if he ends up back in L.A. From what I was told, his rehab has gone well. He's getting closer. He's not there yet. But what a coup it would be for a team like Green Bay, who we know liked him last season, to bring him in for what they hope to be a

stretch playoff run. A vertical guy who was probably going to be the Super Bowl MVP before tearing his ACL. I think Green Bay is on that radar. You mentioned Kansas City. I know Travis really wants him there. That would make a lot of sense to have him and KC as well. I think every player wants OBJ on their team.

You just said that Rams have his rights. That's not – that's the first I'm hearing that. I didn't know that. I just thought they had the opportunity to exercise it if they wanted. That was my understanding. But I don't think – I think it's irrelevant now because I just don't think he's going to end up there. I don't think they have that.

Do they? Is that right? Okay. I don't know. No, you tell me. You were the first – that's the first time I've ever heard that are you 100 sure that i thought if les and sean wanted to bring him back they have the opportunity to have you know first go if you will but i guess maybe maybe i maybe i was told wrong i don't know that that would be a big piece of information

i'm pretty sure that's the case but But again, I don't see that happening. To me, the best case scenario... That would be a massive piece of information. If that was true, that's a big piece of information on his OBJ watch, Schultz. You just dropped kind of a bomb in the middle of that thing. I've never heard that before. Maybe it's like if OBJ... If they want him, that's where OBJ wants to be.

Maybe it's like if OBJ if they want him, that's where OBJ wants to be. Maybe it's that. Oh, you think like it's, he was told like OBJ wants to be in a Ram. So if the Rams say, hey, we want you back, he's going to go there. Contractually though, saying the rights thing, that's a whole different story. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Also, they kept his locker, dude. Like they

had really felt like there was a real chance for him to come back. They kept his locker open. It was at Sean's wedding. They had open communication, but OBJ's the one that tweeted out like they offered me nothing, basically. So then

they had to make an offer, so that means the rights weren't there. Got it. Boom. Alright, so he can go anywhere the fuck he wants. Yeah, he's a free agent. But you just said his rights. Never mind, Schultz. We're saying the same thing. We're saying the same thing.

You and I. I think we're saying the same thing. We are now. Yep, absolutely. Ty, your question for old Schultz? Schultz, what about a guy like Jerry Judy, who now there's kind of a little fire that he might get moved? Do you think there's any validity to that?

What would that you know cost compensation wise and also are you hearing any rumblings about nathaniel hackett potentially getting shit canned here soon if the broncos don't turn things around i mean the the dumpster fire of all dumpster fires has been denver you mentioned judy a guy that quietly has been discussed from other teams is kj hamler um i think I think the asking price for him is less. He's a speed guy, hasn't really been ingratiated to the offense. I think when you're talking about Judy, a former first-round pick, still on his rookie deal, the asking price would be extremely high,

a two or a three. That's a lot to give up. And in terms of Hackett, my understanding was they wanted to give him as much a runway as possible, this was before the season, to really develop that relationship with Russ that he had with Aaron. That allowed Aaron to vouch for him and say, this guy's a legit coach. He knows what he's doing, essentially. So I would be very surprised if Hackett does not keep his job through the season. I'm not saying that's the right thing because I think he's in over his head.

But I can tell you that they feel like there's no upside to them firing him right now. They have a massive contract with him. It would be a huge buyout. I just don't see it happening. Now, obviously, they have the ownership that has the money to buy out of whatever. And they weren't the ones that necessarily decided for this particular deal. But firing a guy seven games in would be awesome. You know what I mean?

Yeah, we've seen enough. All right. We're with Russ anyways. For whatever reason, we've got to move on. I've just seen you put a tweet out there. You're doing a show with A.J. Dillon. What is that? Is that a weekly thing?

No, we just got off. And he's a great guy. Oh, yeah. Sauce, dude. Phenomenal. I mean, you know what he said? My quads are for go, not show. I'm here to run people over.

I am the quad king, not say quad. He told me he squatted 650 as a high school senior. Yep, remember it. That's a long way. Which is insane. I was there, yeah. senior. Yep, remember it. That's a long wait. Which is insane. I was there, yeah. Or 630, whatever it was. But, no, one of the things he said was, too, that stuck out was,

you guys know this, I don't think fans know this, is how funny Aaron is. Like, he said, you know, people view Aaron as, you know, Aaron Rodgers, super serious guy, but he's, like, the greatest. He's a great guy to hang out with. He said one of his first experiences in training camp, he has Bakhtiari, Randall Cobb, and they're joking around. And he comes in, he's going to try to be all serious in the huddle for his first time.

He's next to Aaron Rodgers. And that was his first, like, welcome to the NFL, where it's okay to joke around if, you know, you're doing your job. Hell, yeah. Hell, yeah. Well, I can't wait to listen to it. I appreciate you joining us. How's Starbucks doing? You guys okay? You guys everything okay

in Starbucks? We're doing alright. I see you got one of your little refresher, lesser things there. What is that? You're a pig, dude. This is a green tea. Pat, you know when you put all that shit in there, all that soy

loy almond stuff, it's sugar. I don't put anything in it. No liquid cane sugar. Would you guys sneak into these drinks? You guys sneak into these drinks. Battening up the kids in America. Why don't you make it a little bit more apparent that you guys are sneaking in liquid cane sugar?

I'm doing keto. I'm like, give me the green tea. And I'm drinking. I'm like, this is so good. Then I do a little Googling. They're like, you got 700 grams of sugar. This is why you got people super gluing themselves to your desk. Yeah, this is what happens because you guys are sneaking liquid cane sugar into these things. Anyways, no liquid cane sugar.

Give me one Splenda. And I'd like a little extra ice to keep this thing cold. Now, I did see a video that if I could get a cup that's this big, I can dump it into a cup that's this big. Yeah, yeah. You can save 28 cents. Why are you guys doing this? Why don't you make this one big?

Why are you guys ripping 28 cents off of people, Schultz? I have a question. I have a question. When am I allowed to come to Indianapolis, check out the new studio? When is this going to happen? Whenever, dude. We're talking about it. Whenever.

Immediately. I didn't know if, listen, now that you're doing the game day, I didn't know if you allowed people like me to come into the studio. Like me? What does that even mean? Like me? What does that even mean, Schultz? Insiders?

No, no. Like Seattle, you know, the old Starbucks. I didn't know if you wanted me in the vicinity of your office. Oh, because. Oh. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Okay. Yeah. Now I thought about it. I don't fucking need to be. You guys are charging an extra 28 cents for the same amount of liquid. And speaking of liquid, the cane sugar. You guys are just sneaking it in the back door. Can't have it.

The cake pops stink now. Whoa, really? of liquid, the cane sugar. You guys are just sneaking it in the back door. Can't have it. The cake pops stink now. Whoa, really? Don't disrespect the cake pops. Cake pops are awesome. I'm just saying they're not as good as what they used to be. Elite product. Alright, we appreciate you. How much today did you say that's accurate you think?

About 68.8. Hey! Ladies and gentlemen. I gotta figure out this Odell thing I think I confused you no I was not the confused one in that conversation yeah I think so whenever you say rights that's like

65% ladies and gentlemen George Jones we appreciate it. Hello. Football is awesome, isn't it? Hell yeah. Football is a place where you can experience the highest of the highest and the lowest of the lowest. You can be entertained. You can cry.

You can feel feelings you don't ever feel anywhere else. That is why the game is so fantastic. And last night, we got an opportunity to watch one team go into some hallowed grounds and beat the fuck out of another team. Representing that team on this stage at the Toxic Table at Boston Corner, fresh off the Oh No Express at Ty Schmidt right next to him, also on the Oh No Express, at Ty Schmidt right next to him, also on the Oh No Express. One half of the Hammer, Don Cowboys, Tone Diggs,

who is also on the Oh No Express. And former coach and Super Bowl champion with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, also on the Oh No Express. AQ Shipley hosting the Trenches and joining us live from Manatee, Ohio a man who has never seen the Oh No Express because he's a college football

national champion, Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup champion Damn! He's an NBA pundit, a video game drama shitster. Saw that one just started back up yesterday. I don't know if you saw that George, the guy that he said talks shit on Ninja, quote tweeted the video and said I'm going shit stirrer. Saw that one just started back up yesterday. I don't know if you saw that. George, the guy that he said talks shit on Ninja, quote tweeted the video and said, I'm going to address this today, as in yesterday, 530 on my live stream.

So AJ is now fully into the video game drama bullshit behind his head. That's what this guy does. Beat COVID 14 times, AJ Hawk. AJ, how you doing? Oh, I'm doing great. I mean, I know Con Man's struggling. It was, what a battle last night, huh? Okay, so let's talk about the game.

We won on the Oh No Express earlier and relived all of Conner's greatest hits from yesterday about how bad they were going to kill the Bears, how historic the evening was going to be. At the end of it, he actually goes, Bill Belichick going to beat the Bears and pass George Hallis at the same time the guy that created the Bears? What a dog, dude. Great promo for what the Patriots were supposed to do. Great promo for what everybody thought the Patriots were going to do last night. They do not do anything of them. I mean, they got

bodied by the Bears at home. Is this a turning of a tide? Is this something that you could have never expected? You watched the game last night. We both picked the Patriots minus eight and a half. We were both very, very wrong. What's your biggest takeaway from Monday Night Football with the Bears beating the Patriots, A.J. Hawk? Well, so I was watching some of the pregame lead up to the game, and I knew I was screwed at about 8-12. They were going through with RG3 and Booger and Alex Smith and everybody and then they all picked the Patriots, which is fine. I picked the Patriots as well, but then Shefty read a stat, oh, 62% of the money is on the Bears and he started like cackling and lost his mind.

What do they lose? I was like, man, if these Bears guys have this on the locker room, which they don't, they might come and just run right through you on their way out of the tunnel. Because I knew right then, I was like, man, I wish I could change my pick. Yeah, he actually said, what do 62% of the public know? Ha, ha, ha, ha. And he kept going. I was like, geez, man, what a loser.

Loud laughing. Now, with that being, you know, that type of conversation happening, we have to refer to Sunday where where michael irvin was cutting a lock promo on nfl network's morning show about the cowboys killing the lines and like everybody was talking about how the cowboys are going to kill the lines dax back with what this thing's going to be i actually watched him three or four different times on that nfl network morning show which is the one that i that i watch because i think they do a great job and i enjoy it and i think michael irvin on tv is spectacular whenever you can have him. Kurt

Warner does a great job. Mooch does a great job. Rachel and Cynthia have a great segment there breaking down numbers. I think Rich does good. I enjoy that program. I enjoy that show. But listening to them talk about what the Cowboys are going to do to the Lions and then whenever he did the lock segment and he like was shaking in the thing about about it's a lock. I was like, oh fuck. The Lions are about to do it. Now, I didn't get that feeling enough to go bet on the Lions. I didn't actually put any money on it, but then the Cowboys did

beat the fuck out of the Lions. That kind of brought me back down to earth that it isn't always just contradictory to where all the hype is, but last night it certainly was the case. AQ was watching. AQ, you like what the Bears are doing on a ground game.

You like what the trenches are doing for the Chicago Bears. There's a right guard for the Bears that you're talking about being one of your favorite players in the fucking NFL, right? I love what Tevin Jenkins is doing. He's a dog on the field. He's always looking to finish. That's right, Z. What, are you sucking on him?

Yeah. I just love that. Suckling Z? That's right. What are you doing? What was that? You wanted an echo? I don Zeke. What, you sucking on him? Yeah. I just love that. Suckling Zeke. That's right. What you're doing? What was that? You wanted an echo? I don't know.

I felt like that was like a – we were all in. Oh, that was like a go. So we were gone. Yeah, we were gone. Bear down. That was a bear down. But they had a good run game, period. And now you add the element of Fields running the ball with this,

as we're going to see later. I mean, it's a really good run game. He wanted to run, too, allegedly, from the sources that we have talked to him. By we, I mean Zito. Justin Fields, what did he do, Zito? He stormed into Getze's office. He kicked that door in and said, let's add some more run plays. I want to run.

I want to win. Let's do this. We talked about this like a week ago where everybody's scared for the future of a quarterback. Well, the future of a quarterback is going to be much brighter if he's a great fucking quarterback. And I think what makes Justin Fields separate himself from everybody else, just from small sample size of us watching, and we do not watch every single play, we do not watch every single game for the Bears, so I do apologize. But it appears as if he has the ability to be a fucking freak athlete on the field. He can handle the runs. He can handle the hits. It feels like he has the ability to be a fucking freak athlete on the field he can handle the runs

he can handle the hits it feels like he has good vision and last week we're chit-chatting about him being able to breathe in big moments and now it's like hey when they let him move and give him the freedom to go ahead and do what he's doing right here he's special he's different i hope they stick with it it sounds like they're going to bill belichick didn't seem to expect it. Justin Fields had a fucking big time night, and I know as an Ohio State grad, O-H? Yeah, I-O for Fields for the win. I'll give it to him. That was awesome.

What a great Aaron Rodgers Tuesday. The O-H-I-O people are probably pumped to see Justin Fields flourishing. Winning in Gillette in primetime. They had a shot of him jogging back into the huddle real close. And I almost like, I thought to myself, I don't even think Justin knows how fucking impossible this is, what he has accomplished. I played, you know, against the Patriots a bunch,

just because I was on a good team that played against the Patriots a bunch. And we, I won one time in Gillette. Talk to AQ, AQ's never won in Gillette, aside from being a coach when Tom went back with Tampa. And you can probably look at a lot of people's careers. They've never won in Gillette. That place is just different. Him going in there, fucking performing the way he did, getting that win. I mean, that's a statement made by that Bears team and Ibraflues' crew and Justin Fields as a whole.

I'm very happy for him, man. Honestly. Very, very happy for him. Well, I mean, imagine if they got blown out like we thought they would. It would be like, oh, get rid of the coach already in the first year, all of this stuff, get Fields out of there. Maybe like we always talk about when you have quarterbacks that are athletic, well, well, the next level he's going to have to become a pocket passer,

not be able to – you can't run, turn and run whenever you have a little bit of pressure. Maybe not. Maybe you've got to let these guys go. Like Justin Fields, you can't – don't try to force him to be in a pocket passer all game. Yeah, there's going to be situations where he's going to have to do that. But for the most part, man, let this dude go and set up plays for him, have these design quarterback runs that seem to be very successful.

Now, can you continue that now that it's not going to be as big a surprise to the next team? Yeah, everybody's going to have a book on him now. And New England seemed to be, what, confused? We had Nick Saban say a week ago, all right, Tennessee lined up with a power eye. All right. And our guys didn't know what to do.

It was like the first time I heard Saban say something about the coaching potential, your preparation not being great. And I don't know if Saban meant to say that. I think Saban was just talking about the state of the game. But I think anybody listening was like, oh, so that isn't even something you really have to go over much because you're not fucking facing it that often. Was Bill Belichick in the New England Patriots defense caught off guard

by the Chicago Bears, and what does that mean going forward for the New England Patriots? Well, the design runs for sure. That is something they haven't showed, and breaking that out was genius. But the stuff that really I couldn't get over was the fact that on those third and four teams like that just played and on some of the other plays there was just no one spying Fields and if you watched most of their games a lot of the times he is most effective when he is scrambling around and then running for first downs running gaining yards and there was no thought to just have a spy on the entire game

their backs were turned a lot of times too a lot of times you know a lot of times third down you're playing man to man look like a lot of their guys backs are turned and if not fields can definitely make one or two guys miss it's like a lot of space there's a lot of space and then they had like a josh allen type power league outside that we're going to see on the in in the trenches and everybody and it's going to become a natural conversation because it's the way it is it's happening with lamar right now with all the success that Lamar has had. People that aren't for Lamar getting paid. Okay?

We don't know anybody. We are not those people. No. So direct your hate towards somebody else for what I'm about to say. Okay? This is not me. People say he's going to get hurt. Can't invest good money in him because he's going to get hurt.

It's like, well, he's won a fucking MVP. He's won a playoff game. He's gotten where he is. He is Lamar Jackson because of what he can do on the ground, and then you're going to hold it against him whenever it's time for business. People will try to do that to Justin Fields if they continue to have him run, but I'd much rather be a great quarterback and have a couple people say that I'm going to get hurt,

that's why they can't pay me, than be somebody that never really made it to the great level because I wasn't given the opportunity to utilize all of my incredible strengths that a lot of motherfuckers don't have. Fields is a dog, dude. He is. He's a vegan, too, I think. He's a vegan. He's like yoked up. No offense to

that. I just didn't expect that to be able to create that. He is a fucking... Now I got people saying, you should try his peanut bar scoops that are fully i get it i understand it's a healthy thing but not normally do you see fucking yoked and shredded dudes that turn into vegans and maintain that ability especially going to the adult league we talk about all the time like with these type of quarterbacks like trying to put them in a traditional pro style offense like is fucking

stupid especially when you see the success that lamar's had and he's won an mvp like they lamar's one of one sure i mean justin fields is he might be one of one as well yeah i mean he's i think he's very similar athletically to more um but like when they try to put these guys in offenses that when they know that there's other offenses like the Ravens offense that work, I don't understand. And then you see it last night. Finally, for the last two years, Bears fans and Bears media, they always talk about getting Justin Fields outside of the pocket

and how he's passerating outside of the pocket. The first three plays last night were him getting outside of the pocket and then running with him too. It's just stupid not to do stuff like that. AQ, you were a coach in the NFL. What is it, just stubbornness, ego, pride? What do you think it is about some of these coaches that don't want to adjust I was talking to you know a big-time football brain about how some of these coaches just don't want to adjust and we were both flabbergasted by because neither of us had been coaches before you'd been around it obviously you played for a lot of different

teams you got a chance to coach now so you see the game through their lens and i'm not saying any of the coaches that you worked with or played for have this idea but how why do some coaches just refuse to like fucking take advantage of the strengths of the players that you have as opposed to just doing the system system system system yeah i don't know it's a great question i think the biggest thing like that we've talked about over and over again these guys have their systems in place and and that's what they believe in. And they think that rather than changing and adapting to the personnel, they want the personnel to adapt to them. And that's usually the worst-case scenario. Yeah, it never works.

It doesn't work. Like, for instance, we've got a 6'7 tight end here in Indianapolis. Can't find the fucking field, AJ. You know, like, I don't want to dive in. I think Sammy's going to be looking this direction. Matt Ryan was too. Yeah, I'm just, they couldn't get, for some reason, the X's and the O's just couldn't have the same.

Isn't it amazing how one game changes everything for everyone's opinion on every team in the league every single week, I feel like? Jim Irsay said, get that guy off my field. Yeah. To Matt Ryan, seven games in. Isn't that crazy? That's crazy that they have three. Perseus said, get that guy off my field. Yeah. To Matt Ryan, seven games in. Seven games. Isn't that crazy?

That's crazy that they have three. Yeah. So they don't want him to get hurt now, the contract situation, too. I know that. You hear how we're talking about the Bears right now? Colts have a better record than the Bears because they tied to Texans as opposed to losing. But I think everybody on earth is much more positive about what the Bears are going to go and do than what the Colts are going to do. Oh, yeah.

3-3-1. You would think with the way things have unfolded here that they would be much different, like maybe two wins or one win. But instead, they're 3-3-1, making a change for the rest of the season. That was announced alongside of it. For the rest of the season, this guy is our starter. So everybody in the locker room, this is what we're telling you. This is our guy going forward.

You might like Matt Ryan. You might be appreciative of Matt Ryan. Hell, you might like Big Dick Nick. You might like Mr. Sam Ellinger's team. Until further notice. That's right. That might be. We don't know how long we'll go into this game against commanders.

They got Ring of Honor for Tariq Glenn. Tariq. Tariq. I think Tariq. Tariq Glenn. Big. I never got to play with him. Every story that I ever heard about that guy is just like biggest, coolest dude of all time. Biggest, big. I never got to play with him. Every story that I ever heard about that guy is just like biggest,

coolest dude of all time. Biggest, coolest. Do you ever get to study or know anything about him? I mean, I know him. He was a great tackle. Great. I just, I mean, he's huge. I guess he's, I guess we're talking like giant of a man,

beloved by everybody. He's going into the Ring of Honor this weekend. They're playing against the Commanders. So Jim Irsay had to pick the basic homecoming game for the Indianapolis Colts, which is the Ring of Honor game where a lot of old players come back. It was going to be the Commanders and Carson

Wentz coming into town. That was going to be the homecoming game. That was the Ring of Honor game. Now we're going into that game. New quarterback change. We've got Sam Ellinger coming in there. Sold out house. Tyron Glenn's going to be there. A lot of the OGs are going to be in the building. It is an interesting time to be a Colts fan.

The moxie oozing out off of that field from the quarterback position this weekend. Unbelievable. Heineke and Sam Ellinger. If they dap each other up, there might be a zzzz. The roof might go off because of that dap up in pregame. Make sure Erse knows to open the roof this weekend because you can't contain that this weekend. You cannot.

There's a flooding of moxie coming into Indiana. And it wasn't what we thought it was going to be. We thought it was going to be Matt Ryan versus Carson Wentz. Boo. Tariq Glenn going into the Ring of Honor. Homecoming. Instead, it's first start for fucking hook them. Sam Ellinger taking on Taylor Heineke, who just

beat the goddamn Green Bay Packers in his first start. I mean, it is vastly different than what we expected, but it is interesting that this was the game of choice for the Ring of Honor ceremony, directly chosen by Jim Hersey, I think. So I don't think it's anybody else

making that decision. I think it's him. And we got a first-time starter. I hope Sam does well. Hey, let's go, Sam. Here we go, Sammy. What do you say, Sam? You think when they shake hands, Ellinger and Heineke, Big Tobacco drops like a new can of dip, and they just say,

you know what, let's name this the Heineke-Ellinger can? We assume, Sam, we assume just because he's a Texas quarterback. Yeah, hook him. Heineke, because he's Heineke. Old Dominion, Virginia, big tobacco. You didn't chew ever, right? No. That's the most surprising thing in the world. That goatee, that fucking head, those tattoos. Taylor made to chew,

right? From Pittsburgh. That gut. Never did. Jesus. You look good. You look good. You look good. You look good. Is Matt Ryan the number two two or is he he's the inactive yeah well he has a grade two shoulder sprain that's right which which was a part of the announcement but then it was also followed up with even if he was 100 healthy this does not matter so like the messaging and then ian ratboy came on and said it was frank reich

you remember he said this was frank's decision from a football standpoint he wants to get sam mellinger in there i'm like okay from a football standpoint. He wants to get Sam Ellinger in there. I'm like, okay, from a football standpoint. I saw Frank's presser. Yeah. Collaborative effort. Is that what he said? He said it was collaborative. Yeah.

Collaborative meaning, yes. The owner, I talked to the owner, and this is what we're doing. He may agree with it, though. He may agree with the decision, but I'm saying, yeah, you got to do what the owner wants to do. Foles is his guy, though. Won a Super Bowl with him in Philly. I thought that was the whole reason that they brought Foles in.

So if it was up to Frank Reich, wouldn't he go with the guy he brought in? What if Irsay just enjoyed the cut of Sam Ellinger's gym? Yeah, that's probably the case. What if he's just walking? Jim Irsay, give me that fucking guy. He's not even dressed. Yeah, next week he's starting. You think Ellinger, instead of wearing a football belt or whatever,

is going to wear a cowboy belt buckle? Hell yeah. Why not? Big old cold on it. Hey, Frog, T, boys, make sure that belt is a little bit bigger than everybody else's. I've never noticed it. Do NFL – dumb question here. String.

I think a lot of string now. Okay. Because putting a belt through a pair of football pants, people have never done it. One of the worst experiences. Some O-lineman pants have that still. Not a lot of skill positions have belts. I wore a belt.

Like the thin – On the field? Yeah, on the field. AQ, you wore the diaper jersey? No, I didn't. I've seen it, but no, I didn't. Just regular diapers. I have to get mine hemmed with the seamstress deal.

You used to have to put like a needle through. Or like a hanger. Yeah, it's not easy. You know what they do though now a lot is a lot of them is just like the buckle and the part that you feed through is the only part that is out, obviously. But they sew. They're already in. They sew right there so it can't move. That part just stays out.

The world's soft. You guys aren't even fucking lacing their own belts anymore. This is what I'm talking about. They're not unbuckling chin straps anymore. You just zip them. Did you do a zipper? No, I had a buckle, but I did do the... I'd screw the top

ones. Yeah. that's always cool. You got to bolt it. You bolt in the high snaps. But, yeah, it is weird seeing guys – you know when guys get pissed, you usually snap your, you know, boom, take your bottom two off. Now it's like, okay. They unzip and then they slide it up in front of their mouth. Yep.

That's like the upset pissed off. Let me – Yeah, I always see Herbert doing it. Mm-hmm. I was going to say thanks a lot, Kyler. What? He looks cool. Yeah, and he takes his helmet off so that everybody can see him and he can tell his coach, fucking calm down. Chill the fuck out, I think.

I think we should take it easy on him playing video games because Juju said that him and Kelsey and Patty Mahomes were playing the new Call of Duty on Friday night. I believe that led to their victory on Sunday. That could have just been an internet article? No, that was real. I saw the press conference of Juju's. Is could have just been an internet article. No, that was real. I saw the press conference of Juju. Was that a report on the internet?

Apparently it was real. See? Yeah, Juju actually explained how they play this war zone game. They all drop in together. A lot of good communication between the four. Oh, build team chemistry. Boom. Well, if they lost.

If they lost, do you think he would be saying that? No, because they played. It would be the reason he lost. He actually would, yeah. And they wouldn't have. He has danced before on a juju's a different guy now i love him yes love you juju he's last two weeks he's playing really well with the fucking chiefs right now he's tough man juju's tough mccall hardman too with four or three fucking touchdowns travis kelsey with four the week ago boom she had a block wide open the manning cast you watched the manning cast at all i watched a

little bit i tried my best um to kind of bounce back and forth yeah aj aj texted me during it what did i yeah he said i'm sick of obama pushing his agenda on everybody on this calm down aj that happened yes he did spend a lot of minutes on that it was bad i saw the three-quarter zip i saw a three-quarter zip photo he said register to vote i had a lot of time on that. It was bad. I saw the three-quarter zip. I saw a three-quarter zip photo. He said register to vote. I had a lot of money on last night's game. I wasn't really with the fuckery there for a bit, but then I bounced over when Bill Burr was on

because the white tiger is fucking electrifying. Anytime you get a chance to hear the white tiger talk, you're going to do that. So I had to do that. I heard some of Obama because a fucking friend of mine is interviewing a goddamn president. I actually sent a text to Payton. I'm like, you're interviewing a fucking president.

Let's go, dude. Hey, congratulations. You're interviewing a president. I thought that was incredible. I did not make it to the— Vince Vaughn. Is Trump on next week, you think? Are they with Trump next week?

Are they doing a Manning cast next week? Who's his team? Who's his NFL team? The Giants? That's so funny. Why are you laughing? I think he's a Giant, maybe. Can you imagine Trump and Biden?

Maybe Trump and Biden on the same show. I don't keep up with the political world as much, but I did see a tweet from Phil Maines this morning. Whenever other people ask him how much money I give away, and then he put a Biden press conference clip where he said $3,200,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 dogs. What is this guy's problem? What is this guy's problem? It's not a joke. I'm serious. He eats his chocolate chocolate chip ice cream and he does his coloring book.

Sounds great. This show. Anyways, I don't think we know nearly enough. I assume we just offended all parties. I assume we just offended all parties and I'd like to let you know we are a politics show. We dabble in sports every once in a while.

We are. All of our takes. Super politics. All of our takes are very real. That's right. It's like old linemen. You should take them to the bank. Let's talk about some other stuff around the NFL aside from the Bears

beating the fuck out of the New England Patriots. It was bad. Credit to the Bears D. We haven't talked about the Bears defense. Credit to them, man. They played well. Quinn, hey, still got it. Still fucking got it. What year is this for him? Because I remember when he was a St. Louis Ram and he was in like the sack king conversation.

He still got the juice. Primetime games, though, got to remember those types of stars are always going to make plays. He was all over the place. I enjoy watching that Bears defense. Zito, you know, you have this like blind confidence in the Bears, even whenever they display ineptitude at all levels, like last year and the year before that. It's paying off right now. It looked like some really good football last night. Zito, good for you, pal.

Oh, yeah, and our rookies did very well, too. That pulse picked up. That one interception by that brisker. After he got kicked in the ding-ding. Yeah, exactly. Hey, that was a clear kick to the dick. That was a clear. Could he be fined?

You think he's fined for this? I would hope so because the other angle, the back angle, I mean, he lifts that thing up at the last second. Breaking up a double play. People are calling him Grayson Allen or whatever. Oh, he did lift it up. Yeah, he lifts it up and he points his foot like through the dick. Yeah, he's a piece of shit.

Well, that's what a lot of people were saying about Mack last night. You know, I don't know what his teammates are saying. I think people would assume that if you're willing to do this type of move, you probably got a little bit of dirty dog to you in everything. And then, what, three plays later, old cuz gets an interception on him, goes up and gets it. What an incredible play. What an incredible karma full circle event just in a matter of a couple seconds.

That's a tough throw right there from Mack. Yeah, like falling back after he just kicked the guy in the dick. What a pick, though. Jeez. Hell of a play. And he ran a couple times, Mack did. But even on that play and on another one of the sacks, he just didn't look on the way.

No, he didn't. It really felt like he was really wanting to play. And instead of just telling him, like, hey, zip on the ball, Zappy, we're 2-0, we're dominating, like, let's give this thing another week. 2-0 against who? That would be the Browns and the Lions. But, I mean, you score 29 points and you score 38 points, no matter who you're playing.

That's a lot of points. Con, are you worried, though? Agreed. Is Con worried about the fractured locker room, possibly, when other guys are saying, hey, we didn't know they were going to play two quarterbacks, and there's all this, even though Peyton and Eli said, yeah, they're probably going to play two. we didn't know they were going to play two quarterbacks and there's all this even though Peyton Eli said yeah they're probably going to play too everyone said we're probably both going to play and then you have players saying hey we

have no idea Peyton and Eli said that I didn't hear them they knew that both quarterbacks were going to play no they said we might see them both or whatever Peyton I think said we tried to reach out to New England and say who who's going to start obviously they didn't tell us anything and I think Eli's like we may see them both, so you think they did get told something. I think the pregame show, too, said that. There was, like, reports before the game, hey, there are reports, like, they both might play. Okay, I didn't hear any of that. I know that Bailey Zappi found out Mac Jones was starting when we all officially found out he was starting,

which I guess was, like, a second before the first play. Well, that's what they do, though, too. Like, AQ might know. Like, I know Patriots obviously keep everything very, in-house and very like confidential they don't tell players a lot of times week to week what their role may be like you may be starting and playing 60 plays on defense this week and next week you may only play 15 plays you don't even know until game day almost well that's what doesn't make sense because it got reported on sunday or it might be that mac was playing that mac was starting yeah, I went into the show yesterday. Thank you.

Knowing. Mac Jones is starting. Yes, because it was reported. Very confident. And then I started seeing other people talk about it. They're like, we're not sure. I'm like, oh, I just said for three and a half hours on our show that I am certain that Mac Jones is starting.

So I didn't know if we heard a report that other people didn't or what was going on with it all. Because Bailey Zappi said he didn't know. Rap Sheet said it too. Rap Sheet didn't say that there was any sort of like, hey, Zappi might start tonight or might get some playing time. It was under the assumption that the only way Zappi was going to play, yeah, is if Mack played terrible.

Also, Tommy Currens this morning that Mack Jones will only get three series and that's it. Tommy Currens said he knew that going in? That's what he said, yeah. Which, I mean, I read Tom Currens. Why would you even do that? This sounds like a Schultz-y. This sounds like a Schultz-y. I read Tom Curran's article

before I placed my bets, just like, okay, before I think that they're going to win 38-3, I need to hear what Tom Curran thinks, because we typically think... And he did not say three series? No, he didn't say three series. Are you sure he didn't say, like, he played three series? Now I'm thinking that he might have said that. Okay. So that's what's wrong

with our show. But I feel like we had it right all day yesterday and then i'm turning on fucking espn and they're like they don't know they don't know no i'm like we fucking what if bailey zappy starts last night then we have to go in with an entirely different mindset today about how wrong we were on the biggest story of the evening i don't know how we knew and everybody else didn't that seems very weird to me. Must have been a glitch in the simulation. But going back to what AJ's saying, AQ, is that something you're used to hearing about players not hearing stuff, not knowing stuff?

I don't know if that's something that is, you know, norm, is it? I don't think it's – No, I don't think so either. I think when it comes to, like, some of the personnel moves, I think you're kind of kept in the dark, like, you know. Yeah, my guy got traded here out of nowhere. Yeah, real quick. This guy played fucking two great games.

Really good. Too good. Got traded out of the fucking middle of the week. See my guy right next to my locker neighbor. There's cleaning his shit out. We cut him? Wasn't he just fucking playing? He played pretty good.

They traded him. I go out to practice. Everybody just keep their blinders on, okay? Listen, you worry about your job and your job alone. We can't just guess. We have to trust the – we have to do this whole thing. I'm like, what the – what are we guessing? This guy was good and we get him –

He's playing good. We get him out of town. I don't think anybody – you probably didn't even know until it was that. We didn't know until your fucking locker was getting cleaned. I was like, what? And I go online. AQ's been traded. I'm like, what the fuck? That guy was just in a meeting. I didn't even know until they told me we didn't know until your fucking locker was getting clean i was like what and i go online aq's been traded like what the fuck you got was it just in a meeting i didn't even know until they told me i got a text 7 30 in the morning hey come come to my office i'm like man i'm getting an extension yeah he was playing good i'm gonna play in the baltimore six hours

later he was playing good football i mean playing really good football so i think there is a lot of in the dark about a lot of things but i don't know, like Jacoby talking about how hard Mac worked and then for how it ended up, it's like, okay, they're on his side. But then if you watch the way the team played immediately upon Zappi going in, there was just like an energy in the whole team. Offensive line seemed to be flying around a little bit better. The defense gets a pick. There's big time catches. It's like, well, Zappi seems to be, you know be the guy for this team. And then it sounds like it's not. It's like, to your point about a fractured locker room, I think you have to have.

But I know less than Bill Belichick, so I'm not even going to fucking. I'm not saying it's a fractured locker room. I'm saying it's just new for us to see. Oh, yeah, but it's new to see guys like, not question, but say, oh, yeah, I had no idea. I didn't know this was going to happen. Yeah, in the past they may not know what's going to happen, but they give the old cliche answer to the press after the game.

Whatever the coaches do, they just give the old vanilla answer. When did you find out Mack Jones would be the starter, Zappy? About the same time you all did. He's a Texas boy. He was singing to Stacy's mom on a sideline. Everybody thought that was going to be the Drew Locke Jeezy a Texas boy. Uh-huh. He was singing to Stacey's mom on the sideline. Everybody thought that was going to be the Drew Locke Jeezy moment for him. I hope not. What?

I mean, it's a good song. He could, but Drew Locke fucking stinks. I don't want to have. I think they won that game, though. So I think the difference would be you guys lost because Stacey's mom. Yes. But I wouldn't want Zappy to be Drew Loc Locke because what does that say about Mac Jones? Look at the crowd go crazy.

That's an impossible situation for Mac, I feel like. It felt like a preseason game. It felt like the preseason game where Cam was playing and Mac was standing on the sideline. And that's not that long ago. No. That is not that long ago. That's just like a year and a half ago.

But Boston, those mass holes, they do not care. We are here to win football games. This is the standard. It's the standard. You don't live up not care. We are here to win football games. This is the standard. It's the standard. You don't live up to it. We are ready to move on. I can appreciate that. They'll get back on Mack's side.

Mack throws a touchdown and the place goes bananas for him yet again. But it was a weird primetime game in Gillette. I went back to see the first reports of when Mack was going to start. It was about 20 hours ago from Albert Breer. And then 8.04. No, it was this weekend. I think it was Zach Lowe from The Athletic reported it. And then about at 8.04 last night, Shefty tweeted,

don't be surprised if you see both Patriots quarterbacks tonight. Yeah. Oh, kind of slipped it in there. Albert Breer also, I don't know if you guys saw his tweet yesterday or if he has already deleted it during the game. We might want to steer away from Albert Breer for a little don't know if you guys saw his tweet yesterday or if he has already deleted it during the game. We might want to steer away from Albert Breer for a little bit. Uh-oh. He is throwing around, like, that shit's fire.

You know how people say that? Threw fentanyl into it for some reason. I'm not sure why. That shit's what? I'll actually pull it up right now because Bruce texted to me saying, hey, I don't know if you've seen this or not. So what, Breer just thought he was saying something super cool like he thought he was yeah doing the twitter yeah being hip and cool i could see that uh and he mentioned the fucking

stone cold killer of like our generation yeah he said this right here is sports radio fentanyl yeah there it is what does that mean ow Ow I'm not sure So killing Is that good or bad? Yeah I think it's good Because fentanyl just kills people Right? Like that's what it is

They do use it in hospitals So this right here Is sports radio fentanyl killing Adam Jones is probably Passed out somewhere Oh meaning like It's a Comatose?

Put you to sleep Comatose? Yeah I wasn't sure. I don't understand the context. So it was bad radio, is what Albert Breer was talking about? Maybe. Like the worst of all time? That's a compliment.

He's trying to say it's good. Something that's fentanyl? I don't know, man. We don't mean to laugh at making that. No. I am strictly laughing at him. Yeah. Kind of backpedaling on your take.

This show sucks. Let's move around the NFL a little bit. According to the NFL, and we have a much different take now than when the show started. I'm happy we didn't lead off the show with this particular story. We led off the show with the Oh No Express, recapping what Connor said yesterday and then obviously the outcome. The NFL released a statement from Tom Pellicero's Twitter account. Remember, plug in, need you to tweet this out. The statement was basically like, it was not

an autograph, stop asking questions. Then Pro Football Talk's Mike Florio reaches back out and says it sure looked like an autograph what is it the nfl comes out and says we have no further comment at this time about the whole situation to be clear this is the video that they were talking about where mike evans afterwards in the tunnel was approached by two referees one of the referees saying his name grabbing a piece of paper mike evans writing something down and obviously appearing to be clearly looking like an autograph situation, which can happen between NFL refs and NFL players,

especially in front of that many cameras. This is the video in question. Mike. Mike. Mike. Mike. Mike. That's whatassie.

So I believe that was from Sheena Quick, a friend of the program. She took that, and she was alarmed just as much as everybody else that saw that video. We are now getting more information that it was a phone number because of a golf pro for golf lessons. Tom Pellicerra, full story here. Bucks wide receiver Mike Evans and side judge Jeff Lamberth both went to Texas A&M who are dealing with a litany of issues. And Lamberth was getting Evans' phone number to pass it along to a golf pro to give Evans lessons per sources.

Lamberth didn't have paper, so he borrowed it from another official. The NFL said in a statement that both Jeff Lamberth and line judge Tripp Sutter have been reminded of the importance of avoiding even the appearance of impropriety when interacting with players, coaches, and club staff on game day. In other words, it was bad look but no discipline. So did Mike Evans know that he was, you know, looking for a new golf coach? And why is the ref reminding Mike to give his number to him to get to a golf coach who wants to give Mike Evans golf lessons?

Who the fuck knows? But that appears to be what it was. Do you buy it, AJ? And is that what we all expected it to be? Of course, golf lessons is what needed to happen after a loss in the tunnel. I didn't expect it. I did not expect it, but I saw the report, and honestly, it cal to happen after a loss in the tunnel. I did not expect it. I did not expect it, but I saw the report and honestly, it calmed me down a bit. Me too. I believe it.

I do believe it just because, I mean, like I've said before, maybe I'm naive. I don't think refs are dumb enough to do that, to try to ask a guy, after you just got blown out by the Carolina Panthers right outside his locker room and get his autograph. So, I would assume they talked pre-game, they talked pregame.

They talked before. Hey, man, yeah, hook me up with your guy, man. I want to play. Yes. Hey, I know this guy. He's a Texas A&M legend probably. Wants to give you lessons, get you better at golf. Cool, let's talk after the game.

Now, you say you refuse to believe that the refs are that dumb to ask for his autograph in the tunnel immediately after the game, after they lose. I agree, but they were dumb enough to do that right in front of fucking a bunch of cameras immediately after a loss in the tunnel. The refs can get into the locker room. You know, the refs have the ability to get into the locker room. Optically, look terrible. I'm happy to hear that it wasn't an autograph signing because that calls into

question everything else, and I hope Mike Evans gets great at golf. Yeah. I bet with how big he is, how athletic he is, think about how long that swing could potentially be. Do you play with him? His move could be fucking unbelievable, A.Q. No, golf. You ever play golf?

No, I've never played golf. Did he golf ever down there? I don't know. I don't think so. Well, he's picking up the game. He's learning his sport. He's learning his lessons. Yeah, exactly.

That's why he's talking. I want to get into golf sometimes. Oh, I got a golf guy for you. He's the best. He wants to. Oh, we'll get the information afterwards. Hey, Mike, Mike, Mike. Mike, Mike. Hey, let me get your number so I can fucking give it to the golf guy. Not. He's the best he wants to do. Oh, we'll get the information afterwards. Hey, Mark, Mark, Mark, Mark. Hey, let me get your number so I can fucking give it to

the golf guy. Not the other way around. Not like, hey, here's his number. You should hit him up. Exactly. That's what should have happened. Here you go. Here's his number. Oh, yeah, my paper. So it was an uncomfortable interaction just from the foundation of what happened. No one's going to believe it, though. People that believe the NFL is rigged and the refs are paid off by players and

things, they're going to stick with this for the rest of their life, though. Like, oh, you know, remember, refs are getting autographs from players. Refs are getting autographs from players. Dean Blandino is stumbling off a Jerry Jones bus here in Indianapolis, Indiana. There's been other balls that have just moved from third in the yard to third in the intro, whatever, for certain people. There are certain spots that happen. I mean, there is a list of the game is rigged

conversation or conspiracy fodder if you really want to dive into it. But with that being said, as somebody that's been in there, I have never shanked the punt to help somebody win a bet. I've never. AJ, would you like to go on the record and say anything? I've never been approached by anybody

to ever do anything like that. I don't think it works that way. Me neither. So he hasn't missed an assignment on purpose and never been approached. Me neither. AQ, you were in the NFL a long time. A lot of different teams. You definitely got paid off.

You definitely were cooking books, I bet. You scumbag. No. Never? Not a once. So what about Dean Blandino coming off Jerry Jones' bus? What about this guy asking for an autograph all of a sudden in the fucking middle of the thing?

What about a ball just mysteriously moving? The NFL is rigged. What about the Hail Mary in Seattle? I don't know. But I do know this. I don't know. You can't say that. You're part of the NFL for a long time.

On those ref reports, it always says where they went to college. So maybe Mike said, oh, there's an A&M guy. Let's go say hello. And, hey, I'm learning golf. And there it is. A very believable story. I think it is a believable story. Can't be happening in front of Sheena Quicks, Canberra.

Would have been worse if the Bucs didn't stink and they got blown out. Like if the Bucs would have won. If they win that game. Mike Evans has a pass interference late, that's called, by Texas A&M. Oh, that would have been tough. For a Bucs fan, I'm more worried about Mike Evans dropping that ball, worried about his golf game. What's going on there?

You're right, wide open. And fucking, that looked bad. That looked like a team that doesn't give a, looked like a preseason game. Like, they're not even, you know what I mean? They didn't have like a sense of urgency, I felt like, all day. This is a real fucking game. Hey, this matters here. Division. This is a real fucking game. Hey, this matters here.

Division. This is a pretty big fucking game here. Get your boys together. Out of nowhere. What is the deal? You fucking lost the ship, lost the tide. You're not down there. Are you the problem?

Are you the X Factor? Are you the glue that kept that whole place together? Is that what's going on down in Tampa? They stink right now. Yeah, I don't know what's going on. They got to get it figured out. They got to get it figured out quick. And here's the thing, Oregon. There you go. See what I did there? They stink right now. Yeah, I don't know what's going on. They've got to get it figured out. They've got to get it figured out quick. And here's the thing, Oregon.

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They're playing good football. They got to get it figured out. Thursday night. Thursday night. Quick turnaround. Ravens run game. Simple playbook. Winfield out. Uh-oh.

What? Andrews is up. What? They got to get a win quick. I thought we were going to continue to win. I thought we were going to list off more stuff. What about it? I'm scared to point out all the flaws and inadequacies of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

because you have a lot of friends down there. But I will say, from watching them, they just look like they have no juice. What happened? They got no juice. You need juice. You got to have the juice to win the games. It looks like they got no juice. They got no confidence.

They got no juice. They're not making any plays. Obviously, you got people not showing up to work it is tough enough to win in the nfl when you have juice and everybody's bought in and there isn't drama outside the field let alone when all that other shit is happening can they get past it we find out on thursday night aq was jpp sue jensen like did they lose all their leaders like that's a valid point honestly i mean you mean, you have Sue, JPP, Jensen. Like you said, those three guys are all great leaders, great in their position groups,

keep accountability in check with all the position groups. And so when you lose guys like that who may be getting older and maybe not as great of players as they once were, they're still super important to that team. So it's a great point to bring up. I know Rick Stroud brought it up a couple weeks ago when he was on there. But, you know, at the end of the day, other guys got to step up. You know, you lose guys, other guys got to step up.

It happens on every team every year, and hopefully some of those guys do. I hope so. Honestly, for the good of the NFL, Tom Brady being on a good team is fantastic, let alone everything that's going on on social media right now with him and a former teammate. Jesus, what a bad time to beat Tom Brady being on a good team is fantastic, let alone everything that's going on on social media right now with him and a former teammate. Jesus, what a bad time to be talking about. Oh, gosh. Jeez.

I don't know what happened. Something bad. Seems like something. Yeah. What are you guys talking about? Well, there was that thing with one of his guys, and AB was asking for payments. Oh, AB.

Oh, I don't know. Oh, that's part of it, yeah. I would assume there's like. I mean, AB's on his own schedule right now. He's getting paid to rap. I seen the check. He's getting paid a lot to rap. And the cash.

Let's go off. That's a weird situation there. That guy's an absolute maniac. That's a weird situation there. And, you know, Tom's going to have to address it at some point. Tom's got a lot of shit going on. I mean, a lot of shit going on. That's getting added to it.

P.J. Walker is the guy for the Panthers, even if Darnold and Baker are healthy. P.J. Walker has had success at quarterback for the Carolina Panthers. They obviously get a massive win over the Tampa Bay Q Gronkineers this past weekend in which the Tampa Bay Q Gronkineers are out with the Q and the Gronk, just the Tampa Bay Buccaneers now. P.J. Walker has had success. And I think the reason why P.J. Walker has had success is because he's a great thrower of the football. He's very mobile.

And it seems like everybody loves him. I think every team he's ever been on, everybody loves him. Everybody loves what he's about. Now you've got Steve Wilk saying, you know what? Fucking fuck it. Let's go. This is our guy. New team.

No Robbie. No CMC. We need weapons at every position. Fuck it. Let's go. This is our guy. New team. No Robbie. No CMC. We need weapons at every position. We'll make our quarterback one. Good for P.J. Walker getting an opportunity here to get some meaningful time, meaningful film, and hopefully extend his career a long, long time, A.J. I hope so. He's fun to watch.

You're right. He can sling it. The ball looks good coming out of his hands. He's super athletic. He definitely feels like he brings something to the team that they haven't had, too. So hopefully he can sustain that for a while how about them having 4 000 people in the stands yeah yeah yikes they did it was he announced attendance i don't know who knows some another sellout yeah exactly some media person took like a pano video like five minutes before kickoff or

whatever and all you saw was the teal seats just the entire place and you're like this is what happens when you and they listed off everything that the panthers had done over the last two years i don't i don't think they put in their file bankruptcy against one of the counties here in there but they could have added that in there it was just a very very bleak outcome for attendance there and then they go and beat the fucking Buccaneers. Is that enough to rally and save the Carolina Panthers organization, or does this year not matter at all, you think, AQ? It's all about who they hire next, who's the actual quarterback going to be, who's the head coach going to be.

Keep Wilks. Was it Tepper who gave him the game ball after the game? Hey, I think everything's on the table right now. The players seem to love Wilks. I understand it's the whole, like, hey, let's win one for this interim guy or let's try to keep him around. It seems like they like him, at least from the little videos I've seen. What is it, two, three weeks?

How long is that fired coach thing that we do? I normally just do the one week, but it could stretch to two weeks. The fired coach bump is real. For sure. We've learned that with Gombling. Yes. Week one, it didn't work against the Rams. Who knows who the fuck they are. A big win this past week.

Yeah. They jumped out. Who's Carolina play next week? Oh, I'd like to make a correction. I said the Bengals lost to the Jets this year. Completely wrong. Bengals buried the Jets. Nick Mangold day. Two years ago, last year they lost it. So I would like to apologize to the Bengals fans for saying that yesterday

about them losing and then now being very good. It seems like the Bengals over the last three weeks have figured it out. Three, four weeks they figured it out and they're going. So I apologize to all Bengals fans for what I said yesterday. So I apologize. It was last year the fucking Jets just dog walked you. You end up making it to the fucking Super Bowl

so it doesn't matter anymore. Nothing matters really in the NFL anymore. There's a lot of time left. Teams can go on runs but it does appear as if some teams fucking stink right now.

The NFL owners have unanimously agreed to repayment plan involving Stan Kroenke's relocation of the Rams. Rams, that's good news. There you go, guys. What does this mean?

Front Office Sports is reporting that NFL owners have unanimously agreed to a repayment plan involving Stan Kroenke's relocation of the Rams. Kroenke will foot most of the $820 million bill but be partly repaid over the next 30 years. All right, you pay $700 million. We'll pay you the $120 million over the next 30 years. All right, you pay $700 million. We'll pay you the $120 million over the next 30 years. We're going to get a 30-year loan out to pay our own business partner back. Nobody will experience a loss this year, next year, the year after that,

the year after that. We won't even remember there was a team in St. Louis by the time this actually affects your guys' bank accounts. And by that point, we might have resolved this entire thing anyways. So they're out of St. Louis. The drama is over. It was the St. Louis Athletic Commission that was heading it up. I don't

know where that money goes. Is that money going into all of St. Louis? Is it just going into the committee members or commission members? I'm not sure, and I'm sure St. Louis isn't thrilled that they no longer have it. Can you imagine in the owners' meeting? Alright, what's next on the docket? Who thinks Stan should give $700 million of his own money to St. Louis? Aye.

Roger's like, we'll help you. $120 million. Remember, we're helping. Yeah, pal. What is it, $120 million? Something to sneeze at, Stan? Is that what you're saying? You don't want $120 million?

What, are you guys paying it to me now? No, no, no, no. We're actually getting a loan out. 30 years. You'll be dead. Yeah, you'll get it. It'll be from all... It won't even be from us. It's actually coming from a bank. Yeah. Which, the money that we're putting in there, the interest rate on it, actually, we are...

Yeah, Stan, you fucking... Hey, you wanted to move the team. You want a Super Bowl. You fucking get it. You're welcome. Way to go. It's over. Alright, next subject. Sny, you wanted to move the team. You want a Super Bowl. Okay, you fucking get it. But you're welcome. Way to go. It's over. All right, next subject. Snyder. And then that's literally all that happened there.

I'm happy the NFL has handled the St. Louis issue, though. St. Louis had great fans. We saw that whenever the XFL took place. I don't know if $820 million is going to do a damn thing to reconcile that relationship. But I do hope that St. Louis fans think it's a little bit of something. And maybe they reap the benefit of it, too. Where does that money go? Is it going to streets? Are they fixing roads?

Hopefully. Infrastructure, hopefully. Infrastructure. Yeah, but it's to the sports commission, right? So you would assume it's athletic fields and stuff like that around the area. Hopefully it goes towards a new stadium so they can get an NFL team again. Yeah, because that was the issue. But then Kroenke footed

$4 billion in LA to build. It was supposed to be $4 billion. It bumped up to $8 billion. And then it was $7 billion. I think it was $6 billion. It was supposed to be $2 billion. He footed an extra $4 billion but had to leave St. Louis because

there's no stadium. You think he looked at the Spanos family? Like, hey Louis because there's no stadium. You think he looked at the Spanos family? Like, hey, I just built the stadium. Can you at least lend me a couple hundred million dollars? And Spanos fans are like, we'll give you $120 million over the next 30 years. The NFL was fantastic. And joining us now, like he has for the last three seasons, this one being the third, I guess.

So two and a half seasons. Two and more than a third. Yep. Less than a half seasons. There it is. He's the back-to-back NFL MVP. This past Sunday, they lost to the Commanders. This upcoming Sunday, they have the Buffalo Bills in primetime coming off a bye.

Your quarterback for the Green Bay Packers, Aaron Rodgers. Aaron, what's up, bub? You're not allowed to smile today. You have to be pissed off. Or what is your mindset after that loss to the commanders going into a tough Buffalo Bills team? Aaron, thank you for joining us. Was there a question that I wouldn't yeah there's

a lot of people that are tweeting okay and I don't know if you see that because you kind of stay in your same world there's a lot of people tweeting Aaron's not going to show up on a show this is the first time they've had a losing record since the Aaron Rodgers Tuesdays have started he's not going to smile if he's on or he better not smile if he's on there what is your mindset we still got a long season left, I assume, or do you understand there's some frustration and it's warranted almost around the Green Bay Packer faithful? Well, they can say whatever they want.

Love that. They've nothing, you know, nothing's going to sway that opinion, I don't think. You know, I can come on here and extol the virtues of my team and the hope for the future and the excitement about the present. But I think people who are bitter and angry, they kind of want to sit in that, wallow in it a little bit, if you will. Like a pig in shit, just kind of enjoy it for a little bit. Just kind of let that wash all over them until they're ready to get washed off.

Is that what you're thinking, though, obviously? That's what, like, this type of loss does to a team is, like, some people, you know, want to feel it just so that they can never feel it again? Or is that something that you guys can't do in the locker room and you see others doing at the same time? I was talking about the fans. I think the fans are doing it a little bit, yeah. The fans, you know, want to be upset.

And that's fine. I mean, that's great. It's still kind of a free country, so they can do whatever they want. As far as us, look, we're going to get ready for a tough opponent on Sunday Night Football. I think there's a lot of interesting things coming to a head this week. We have, you know, had some success in primetime games over the last little bit. So I know we're playing a tough opponent.

They're coming off a bye week. They've got an extra week to get ready for us. They've got a great quarterback, great defense, very well coached, a lot of weapons, Jake Kummerow. So a lot going for him. But, you know, we're the underdog this week, which is a new spot for us. Hey, quick pivot back to the Washington game. What exactly do you think?

What were they doing defensively? I give their defense credit, honestly. What were they doing, I guess, to give you guys a tough time for your offense? Nothing. Then what was it? People are going to be so mad with your answer. So mad about it. I mean, they didn't have to do anything.

They rushed four guys. They played a cover four. They sprinkled a couple weak inserts and a couple man coverages. And that was it. So what do you think it is? They got good players. But as far as, like, schematically, what did they do? Just lined up and played.

So what do you think it is? Why do you think there is some struggles? Growing pains was obviously a conversation early. There was a report that you guys were going to do something with your offensive line. And then whenever last minute came out that Bakhtiari woke up on Saturday and his knee didn't feel good, they kind of went away from that. It felt like you could just never really get anything going. Aaron Jones got in the end zone twice.

Okay, hey, here we go. Here we go. Aaron Jones getting back into it. But it never really felt like you guys were able to do anything. Is it just you think it was them making plays, you guys not executing? What do you think it was them making plays you guys not execute what do you think it is well i mean they have a nice front they have a lot of first rounders in that front they got a good uh you know good linebackers are good on the back end but we had so many uh just mental errors and mistakes it's just it's not the kind of football we're used to playing over the years.

There have definitely been games four or five seasons where we average four, five, six, maybe seven at the most kind of mental errors or missed assignments per week. Some weeks you have like four, two sometimes.

This season, a lot more than that every single week. It's double digits every single week. Even on the game, we had like 50 plays or something. It wasn't a ton of plays. They had 37 minutes of time possession. A lot of mistakes. After the game, you said this might be the best thing for this team. Are you talking about locking in, kind of learning that this can happen

and maybe give up all those MAs and miss things? And have you felt that around the building the last two days? I guess you haven't really been around. So you've got to be careful taking my comments out of context. I think I said the best thing for this team is going on the road and being an underdog at this point. Oh, okay. And people people starting to count us out i said that might be the best thing for us might might be what do you think about the locker room that you have this year first last year do you

think learning do you think like after that game did you feel like all these guys care these guys are invested these guys understand that this was a massive loss and we don't although we have a lot of time left we really don't did you feel that with the locker room are you disappointed with any of that or do you feel like you have the guys that you can go on a run and kind of right the ship that's a good question i feel like i just got to look at what happened in the locker room we had two guys speak up one kind of normal and one not as normal uh we had uh dollin speak up, one kind of normal and one not as normal. We had Dallin speak up on behalf of the special teams and I guess, you know, us in general. And gave an impassioned speech about owning, you know, owning our stuff and being accountable and playing better.

And what that looks like, not just on Sundays Sundays but Monday through Saturday thought it was great and then uh we had a big dog said a bunch of things as well um so if it had been a quiet locker room and we just kind of mosey on over to the buses and mosey on over to the airport you might think that guys don't give a shit but uh definitely wasn't that definitely uh definitely wasn't that feeling at all it was disappointment frustration uh guys care because they put in the time emotion and and uh that's what you want to see now we just gotta find a way to get one win and then start stacking from there hell yeah go ahead ty ahead, Ty, your question for Aaron. Yeah, Aaron, I think a lot of fans, I mean, I know me especially,

like I kind of do the wallow in the sorrow for a couple days, but then, you know, after a couple days, it's kind of you move past it. You still have hope moving forward. No, you don't. Yeah, you do. Yeah, you do. Absolutely. I said earlier.

He has hope after he talks to Aaron. After this conversation. Absolutely. Aaron saves him from, Aaron saves Ty from doing bad things to do. Absolutely. I said earlier. He has hope after he talks to Aaron. After this conversation. Absolutely. Aaron saves Ty from doing bad things to himself. Yes. I think that is. Okay. Easy, AJ.

But, yeah, no, like, that's for real. You know, you watch the game, and you live and die with everything, and you get really upset and frustrated because, like you mentioned, like, it's just, you know, my whole lifetime, you're not used to seeing the Packers play like this. But we've seen the NFL. I mean, shit, no one thought the Pats were going to get blown out by the Bears last night, so it is like, why can't you guys go out and beat the Bills on Sunday night?

With how frustrated the fans are, keep in mind how frustrated you guys probably are, but at this point in the season, how close do you think we are to one of your patented relax or run the table speeches? Or does that not even need to be said because everyone kind of understands the situation that you guys are in and what you need to do moving forward? I mean, it's just got to catch me at the right time. I couldn't tell you if it's going to come out at some point. It just has to be in the moment. It's not a lot of forethought to it.

If a question perks something in my brain that I feel like I need to give a certain response, I think after I gave those responses, I realized that that might kind of go places. I'm glad it did. It kind of became a rallying cry. But you can't do that shit all the time. It's got to be authentic in the moment. If it comes out, it comes out. That would be great.

But I think when the players really take over, then you're going to see the possibility of us making a run. So when the players really take over, I'm not talking about usurping power from coaches. I'm talking about we take over, we take ownership of what we're putting on the field. Now, some of that might be in the plan. So some of that might be, hey, I really want to do this, offense, defense, teams, whatever it might be.

But the other part is taking ownership of your daily habits and your routines. Just because we're a young team, we can't just write that off as, oh, they're figuring it out. be um but the other part is taking ownership of your your daily habits and your routines just because we're a young team we can't just write that off as oh they're figuring it out the rookies are figuring this thing out and they're gonna go through their rookie wall and blah blah blah bullshit bullshit we need everybody on the same page to make the plays that are possible we need them monday to saturday to put in the time to be ready to play sunday because there's too many times in the game where there's simple, simple things that just are not being accomplished.

How close are you? We hear people talk about, like, different players about their team. Oh, we're really close, even though they may be losing some games. Okay, we're close. We're almost there. We just got to figure it out. Do you feel like you guys are close and it's just one player here or there? It's definitely not just one player here or there.

Like I said, it's, you know, 20% of the time. If we have 50 plays and we have 10 mental misassignments or mental errors, that's 20% of the time. So that's way too high. You know, in the past, we're looking more like at, you know, less than 10%. So it gives us, you know, a really good chance to be successful. 20% is too high. That's one play a series where you're really making it tough on yourself.

So we've got to fix that. And whatever that is, I think guys who are making too many mistakes shouldn't be playing. We've got to start cutting some reps. And maybe guys who aren't playing, give them a chance. So we're in a scene. We made some changes, you know, last week. We moved Yasha over to right tackle.

We moved John to right guard, Elton to left guard. So, you know, we're doing some things. And there'll be more opportunities for other guys, I think, moving forward too, especially with our injury situation as we look at this week and see who's healthy. We're lucky to get to ride the wave of an NFL season with an NFL quarterback, let alone the guy who's the back-to-back MVP. And this would take, you know, a real human to say this, and I don't know if you're at this point,

but is there times where you're dropping back, where you have zero confidence or faith in some people that you're on the field with and doing what they're supposed to do, so it kind of makes you second-guess yourself? Is there anything affecting how you play with that? Is that outside stuff potentially affect how you are and how comfortable you are in every single play, and is that something you've thought about? I can't say. I mean, I'm too big of an optimist. So I really think the best in people, and I expect that high level.

So for me to go out there and think, oh, man, this dude is guaranteed not running the right route. I have no idea what he's doing. I don't think like that because I just have an expectation that, you know, we've had these conversations for months now about certain things and they're going to recall in the moment and, and I know they're going to do the right thing and we're going to make this work. So I just have a lot of optimism when I'm out there. Um, now sometimes they test my optimism for sure, but, uh, but you know, there's always

the, it's the good with the bad, you know, how do we get them to really lock in on those positive things and take those with them and then play with that confidence. You know, play with that confidence that the young players had at their colleges when they were the man. You know, they were the BMOC. You know, they were coming through every single week making plays. If we can get them to play with that type of confidence, you know, then I expect some better results.

Confidence comes from preparation. Obviously, preparation leads to results, and everything kind of goes hand-in-hand. After the results are given, this particular game against the Commanders, you watch it, you judge everybody on every play, you judge yourself on every play. How do you go about watching a game like the Commanders to correct it for going forward?

And what did you see out of yourself against the Commanders? Yeah, judge everything. Yeah. Every play, my own performance, all of it. I mean, this was my highest graded game by Tom, which people may be surprised to hear. which people may be surprised to hear. But, you know, we probably didn't execute a lot of drops, a couple of missed throws.

But, yeah, I mean, we're behind the sticks. You know, we're second and 20, third and 25, first and 15s, way too many penalties, you know, way penalties, way too many drops, not enough rushing attempts because we were behind the sticks the whole time. Obviously Aaron Jones, every time he touches it, is going to make a bunch of big plays as a possibility. But, man, there were three or four plays where if we just do what we're supposed to do, those are the key plays. I tell them all the time.

It could be the first play of the game. It could be the last play of the game. Any play in between. One play often. Two plays, three plays at the most can determine the outcome of the game. And sometimes the simplest play is just to buy outside release here. This happens, boom, boom, first down, move on. We're getting points in this draft.

Little things. It's the details. Some of it's on the players, for sure, on us. Some of it's on the coaching staff as far as making sure that we're really getting every detail into this. But ultimately, like Dallin said after the game, it's about the players. Players win, players lose. We're out there playing. So it's on us to get this shit fixed.

So we've got to look at our habits, what we're doing during the week, how we're studying. Because when you're missing little details or fundamental things, those are correctable. And that's why you have some hope is because it's not like we're getting just dominated out there. You know, we're not getting man-to-man dominated. We are getting – we're beating ourselves in most games.

We really are beating ourselves. Do you think – it sounds like there is some real hope, huh? Hey, this is what we were talking about with Ty. After you started talking about things on, like, Monday, Sunday night, Monday yesterday, you talked to Ty. Yankees get swept. I mean, Iowa Hawkeyes stink at football. You guys lose the game that you lose to the Commodores.

Then all of a sudden, Ty comes in here, miserable mess. Then we talk to you, and you start hearing some things. And, Ty, you could see his Grinch face turn from upside down literally to a smile. It feels like you have that vibe too. You have to, obviously, going into Week 8. But how is the step forward? Do you talk to the floor? Do you talk to the team?

I know the two guys talked. How do you think you guys get out of this little bit of rut, and how do you turn things into this hopeful promised land that you can see coming from a mile away? Well, you have to really be cognizant of when is the right time to speak and when is the right time to listen. We have two ears and one mouth for a reason. So there are times to listen.

And then there are times where you've heard enough and now it's start time. It's that time to really crack the whip a little bit. So could be, could be that time. Could definitely be that time to really crack the whip a little bit. So could be that time. Could definitely be that time. Players only meeting coming? No, we don't know. No, LeFleur needs to hear this too. Sounds like everybody needs to hear this potentially.

No, no. Players only meeting, that's for sure. Players only meeting, that's for sure a lot of times. But no, it could be time to look for a little more opportunities to crack the whip a little bit. Well, I can't wait to hear how that works. We're seven games in. I think, again, not everybody can be coached or held accountable the same way, but it could be that time.

Okay, I'm excited to see the reaction. Big time Sunday night primetime game. Excited to hear the fallout from everything that you said, and everybody judge Aaron Rodgers being a prick to his teammates, even though that's just kind of the way you would want your leader to operate. Speaking of leader, Bakhtiari, okay? I know he's a friend of yours, good friend of yours. We've seen you guys in a golf cart. I don't know him personally, but I'm a big fan of him as a human.

He chugs two beers at a time. He's one of the greatest athletes for the size that he is, and he seems to be hysterical as a human. Did you know he was going to sit out, and do you have optimism with him for the rest of the season? Because he's in a full game, then he's in a pitch count, then he's supposed to be in, then the day before the game he's out. You're the closest to him. We don't really know what's going on. Is he going to be all right going forward, or is there some real worries here about one of your best friends and David Bakhtiari, and also one of the best tacklers to ever play football?

Yeah, I didn't know until 90 minutes before. I didn't know until he put the inactives in. I knew that he was going through some things, but I thought he was going to play. And I know he went out to test and couldn't get it done in pregame, so they put him down. So I found out when just about everybody else found out. Obviously he wanted to be healthy.

Nobody takes care of himself quite like Dave. He's got, you know, a lot of people taking care of him around the clock besides, you know, his amazing pregnant wife, Frankie. I feel like Dave should be taking care of her a little bit more. But that's a whole other thing. Dave's super cheap. Got him. He's a good golf cart.

Yeah, yeah. The golf cart's great. I do love the golf cart. It's my favorite gift ever from Dave. And my only gift. But listen, I found it 90 minutes before the game

and was disappointed for him, mostly, just because I know how much he cares about it and what he's been through. I don't know. I let him speak for himself, but I feel like I want to manifest him coming back and playing himself, but I feel like I'm going to manifest him coming back and playing this week, and I feel like that's a real possibility. Do you talk to him about it?

Is that something you guys kind of – because you said you let him tell his story. We haven't heard anything about it. And I think, like, fans of the program, myself included now, because they are 12, and, you know, Aaron Rodgersgers Tuesdays have been a fantastic treat for all of us to be a part of so I'm going to pull for the team obviously that is blessing us with this particular segment it's it makes no sense I don't understand like is he worried about this thing tearing bad like to go from playing to a pitch count to not being able to play to potentially playing like I don't think I've ever heard of this before, and it sounds scary almost.

You're saying that that is manifesting, is that we do have positive vibes about the whole Bakhtiari potentially. I mean, I do. And you've got to understand, again, Pat, the pitch count in the Giants was because of the long flight, the short amount of time between the game and the flight. That was the reason for that. And then, you know, obviously he has a surgically repaired knee

and he's going through practice and trying to feel better and every now and then might have some flare-ups and inflammation or whatnot. But, you know, I would expect him to improve and hopefully play this week. All right, let's go, let's go great to have you back balk you know does he need to get that's a hope that's a hope that's not a definitive that's a strong hope and manifestation uh he'll probably tell me tomorrow in the car to shut my mouth and stop talking for him but hey there we go nice yeah dude i'm hoping for it i'm manifesting right alongside you i think he's great i think he's good for the game whenever he's playing it's really nice to see

i've never seen what's going on with his knee though it kind of makes me scared but let's go ahead and get him back let's do positive let's do positive here we go he needs to get that lady that ed monix used to go to i was married to that guy to drain his knee that's right you know what i mean that's why he needs that Ed Monick's knee relief from semi-pro. Tony, I have a question for you. Go ahead, Tony. Aaron, is anything attributed to potential offensive struggles with

Getzey and Hackett not being there anymore? Has anything... Am I going to blame struggles on that? Have you experienced any difference without those two being in the building, obviously? Is it a different, is it a much different offense? Is it different preparation, I think, is what Joan is leading to. Listen, I think you've got to remember, first and foremost, this is Matt's offense.

So Hackett was the offense coordinator, but he was more the implementer of the plan. So he had his own ideas, and all these coaches bring their own ideas to it. But the boundary around this offense is the Shanahan system that Matt grew up in. So this is Matt's offense. This is not Hackett's offense. It wasn't Getze's offense. It's not the West Coast offense. This is Matt's offense.

So it doesn't matter who's in that place, that's the offense that's going to get run. So when you have an offense coordinator but an offensive head coach, it's not like they have their own system. So when they leave, what you're missing is the implementation of that weekly installation, the personalities, the relationship that that person has with the head coach during the week and then on game day, the influence that person has,

maybe that specific section of the plan that person has. But, no, we got in their place. Tom Clements has been a longtime coach of mine, and he's a fantastic coach. He's done an incredible job, I think, again this year with me and with Jordan and with Danny. And then Steno's doing the OC stuff. He's, you know, one of my all-time favorite coaches. I mean, he's a great dude. He's funny as hell up in front of the room.

He's doing a great job. So do we miss those guys? Do I miss those guys? Hell yeah. I mean, that's, you know, that's like two, like, they're like brothers to me. You know, Hack and Getzee's, like, younger than me, but, you know, we were around each other for, I don't know, 10 years. And Hack, you know, every year spent like, felt like five years together. So, like, we were together for like 15 years.

His years are feeling like 10 years now, his years. Old Hackett over there. Yeah, well, I'm going to stay away from that one. I'll let you. You can stay away from that. What about your head coach? You and the floor, you have a fun relationship. It seems like he's really amped up, and you talk about during games,

you're there to calm him down. What's it like day to day now? You guys still like same vein, or are you both just amped up and pissed off all the time now? There we go. I would say Matt is never really pissed off. You know, amped up and pissed off all the time now? There we go. I would say Matt is never really pissed off. You know, amped up, definitely. At anxiety level.

Anxiety level. At me, he might be mad at me. He's mad at me when I say stuff like this. His anxiety level is at a seven base. But the funny part is that, you know, I say that and then, you know, some other people, I won't name them, you know, might come by and tell me, you know, I say that and then, you know, some other people, I won't name them, you know, might come by and tell me, you know, that was a little bit low. Oh, his assistant coaches, it sounds like.

It sounds like that's the other people that are in the building a little bit. And Robert Sala, yeah. Oh, and the Jets and people that have been around him before. If he's in the seven now, that's better. That's what I do love about Matt to see him grow the most is he's been able to laugh at himself and hey crazy enough as he's able to laugh at himself a little bit more his jokes in front of the room become that much more funny now maybe not funny enough to engage a frank zombo for an entire speech but they are they are getting better so i will give matt a lot of credit for that how's our relationship awesome man man. Yeah, we still talk all the time.

Every single day we've got a great FaceTime that I get to look forward to, Tuesday night, Wednesday night, Thursday night. So pretty business as usual. We both want to get it fixed. We both care about things deeply and both want to be saying the right message to the team. Him in front of the room and me in my own capacity is kind of a mouthpiece

for coaching staff and for my own thoughts um but yeah you know Matty uh uh you know just wants to do right by the squad and uh he's he's been a good uh good leader for us you think he's been steady for us as well in some of these moments of adversity which shows a lot of growth as well okay and obviously you having a say and having a conversation with LeFleur is a big deal from where we were a few years ago. Not saying that you weren't involved in anything, but that was obviously a topic of conversation. Trade deadline one week from now. Are you in there? Are you in that conversation or no? I'm in all the conversations. Do you want to be? Do you not want to be? Do you feel like you're included as much as you wanted to be

whenever the whole conversation started a couple years ago? And do you feel like it's a respect worthy level of input that you're allowed to have on the team that is ultimately being judged by how you do forever? You know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, that's a sticky question, I think. You're trying to trap me a little bit. So I'm not going to bite on that. But that was good. That was a real question, I think. You're trying to trap me a little bit. So I'm not going to bite on that.

But that was good. That was a real media question from you. Well, I mean, it's a real thing. Trade deadline's coming up in one week. There's a lot of teams that need a lot of weapons. You guys, everybody's saying need one. There's a couple people on there. Have you gotten a chance to chat about that, or do you want to?

Do you feel like you have or no? I am in conversations with Brian often. Here we go. This is good news, right yeah i don't think that's new news that's the same thing i said last week i'm in conversation with brian often and um you know trust that uh if there's a guy to get out there that makes sense for us then we're gonna get them that's good news still though i think we can still celebrate even though you said it one week ago you know i think that's good news that's great place to where we yeah here we go yeah good news i feel like that's good news. That's a great place to where we're going. Yeah, here we go. Good news, I feel like.

That's what we were looking for a couple years ago. I see you've got the Milwaukee Bucks hoodie on. Are we going to make a run this year? Are we going to win it all? I think we had a good chance. We had an opening night without Middleton, Connaughton, Joe Ingles, one of my all-time

favorite players in the league. Got a win. Now we're 2-0, I think. Big game tomorrow. Hell, yeah. Excited for the team. I mean, Giannis had video game numbers the other night. He was 17 for 21, scored 44 points in like 30 minutes or something crazy like that.

He's pretty good at the basketball. How about the Pacers? We're tanking for that big 7'2 guy. Yeah, Wendell. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I think it's a little early. Let's be.

I know. You're bad. It's been a long time. You know, we don't got Giannis around here. It'd be great if we got. Yeah, Wendell. Are you writing off the Lakers already there because they're 0-3 and the Sacramento Kings and the Orlando Magic?

Of course. They suck, all those teams, so bad. The Lakers can't shoot a penny into the ocean. Now, you're an owner in the league. You understand how the game goes. You can't make shots. You're going to lose games. The Lakers can't do it.

LeBron said it to me. LeBron told me that. He told you personally? Well, I told a lot of people. I happen to be one of the people on the receiving end of the what is that what did scotty pippen say to you oh scotty fucking dunked one on me now hey he's a player scotty pippen is a goddamn player he did a champagne celebration in my face oh yeah beat me one-on-one i was told he was terrible at golf that's right i was told he this guy stinks at golf del curry sandbagging i was up we were at the casino until

3 4 a.m t Tee off at 7.30 against fucking Scottie Pippen. That guy's a scratch golfer. I got bamboozled. We won. Who cares? But Scottie Pippen is good at golf. Do not get fucking hustled into that whole thing. Aaron, we're going to let you go. Do you have a book this week?

I do, and I think it's very apropos for you, for our fan base, for Ty as well. Apropos. This is apropos. Because at the root of it is this gentleman, Wizard, if you will, teaches breath work. And I think at a time like this, we all need to take a couple deep breaths. And I think at a time like this we all need to take a couple deep breaths. We enter our lungs and then enter our bellies and then just exhale it.

And as we exhale, we need to exhale all that negativity that we've been storing up the past few days. All the negativity and the spite and the vitriol aimed at me and Matt and all of our players. Let's just breathe that in. And then let's exhale it out. That easy. And now we can heal ourselves with this book called Healing by David Elliott. Wim Hof? Not Wim.

David Elliott, the author of the book. David Elliott, he's a great human. Like I said, he does breathwork stuff. He's written a couple books. This one and a book called The Reluctant

Healer about his life and lessons and this is kind and a book called The Reluctant Healer about his life and lessons. And this is kind of a workbook-ish where it gives you some prompts each time to do some writing and some meditations on. But I highlight this because he's a great human and also because I thought it was apropos for today as we kind of get out there a little bit and get a little worried about the season getting away from us. Let's just take a couple breaths here, take a beat, and recenter and calm and turn off the A.J. Hawks of the world who already want to write us off. Yep.

And turn on the Tuesday afternoon Ty Schmitz who have a little bit more hope a little bit more love in their heart and a little bit more excited about life you I think that is apropos

isn't it it is I was using the context clue since the first time you used that in this particular conversation it fits today is that what apropos means

yeah and that book is called Healing Healing Healing by David Elliott Is that what apropos means? Yeah. And that book is called? Healing. Healing. Healing by David Elliott. Did David Elliott hawk some of Wim Hof's stuff, or is it two different breathing people here?

Definitely two different styles for sure. Big Wim Hof fan as well. And I've done a lot of his stuff. This is definitely a different style. You get in a cold tub, you're a cold tub guy. You go to a frozen lake, you do your breathing, you take your shoes off, take your socks off and say, you know what, I need to be centered in cold water. Because if you can battle against cold water mentally, you can battle against any challenges that come your way. Is that what the healing is all about as well?

I know that's Wim Hof's way. What? What? We appreciate you, buddy. Good luck breathing this week. Good luck playing this week. Let's fucking go get them. We're underdogs this weekend. Yes, we pick you. What'd you say, AJ? We're gonna embrace that.

I've been a homer. I pick you guys no matter what. What should I do this week? GFY. GFY. Ladies and gentlemen, Aaron Rodgers. Welcome back to the program. It has been a lively break over here at the FanDuel Thunderdome. I don't know how it's been in the attic in Ohio for A.J. Hawk.

How are you doing? Doing great. Not quite as lively over here by myself, but I can imagine you guys had a spirited conversation. Yeah, there was a lot of chatter about these potentially being directly from DiNardo's desk. Yep. Oh, yeah. So DiNardo went to Doppler to desk, and this bottle was there. Okay.

And that's something that I hope everybody takes into account moving forward, and I appreciate WTAE for sending his beloved belongings to this studio in Indianapolis. Rest in peace, Dunaro. Rest in peace, Joe. Talks and Tables here at Boston Corner at Ty Schmidt. AJ, it was loud. Everything you were thinking right now did happen just moments ago.

Tone Diggs is here, one half of the hammer. Dad! Cowboys. And now it is time for us to get smarter at football, for us to learn why teams are good, why teams are bad, and what the fuck is going on in the trenches with AQ Shipley. AQ, how you doing, pal? Fantastic.

Missing Joe? Yeah, of course. All right, so check it out. We got the Chicago Bears. I'm sorry. Just shut up and do it. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm really, really sorry. check it out. We got the Chicago Bears. We're done. I'm sorry. Just shut up and do it. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm really, really sorry. Check it out. So they wanted to get Justin Fields going. They wanted to get him involved in the run game. So we're going to send somebody in motion. We're going to get a hide. The key is watching Judon. Judon, if he stays up the field, could hand the ball off.

But the key, Fields will keep his eye on him. He's going to take a few yards here. That is it. We've talked about it a hundred times. A bad step here, two steps here, a couple inches here, whatever it is. We're going to say he's going to go two yards or so. He's going to come down the line of scrimmage. That is it. That is all he needs for Justin Fields to take this thing around the edge, and then he gets a lead blocker out in front with the tight end coming in motion. Here we go. We're going to fake the handle.

Look at him. Look who he's looking at. Boom. He sees him take a few steps inside. The offensive line is selling everything this way to get the rest of the group working that way. Once they all work that way, he takes a bad step here. That is all we need.

We get the lead blocker bypassing. He's out in front with a ton of speed oh how good was that z so good how good was that that was just easy football right this is what um like pat white steve slayton used to do back at west virginia college teams do this this feels like a play that they can run whenever they want is that accurate 100 you get a lot of these things right with him hurts kyler all the guys that are running the ball right now. It is such an added element and puts everybody else in a soft position on the edge that has contain.

Because even that right there, they have not shown this. So why would he sit there and play up the field? But if he does play up the field, guess what we got? A big gaping hole right there. So there's so many things they can do off this. Now they also have the play action coming off of this whenever Cole Komet comes here. Boom, he's out there. So there's so many things they can do off this. Now they also have the play action coming off of this whenever Cole Komet comes here. Boom, he's out there.

Now you can have the play action if you want it off it. There's a billion things you can do off this. But this, I mean, he just gets out in free space and runs untouched. It's unbelievable. And that's them utilizing Justin Fields in an offense that they hadn't in the past and hopefully will going forward. Why they would never change this? You don't think it's pretty safe play, it feels like.

Yeah, and as long as you do what Kyler Murray has done a fantastic job in the NFL of being able to not take big hits. He's so good at getting in the open space, running, and then getting down. As long as these guys understand that, you don't have to worry about them getting hit and getting hurt, really. So then now right here, if he's about to take a big hit, either get out of bounds or get down, period. Boom. That's the best down, period. Boom.

That's the best of both worlds. Yeah. AJ, you stopping that ever? You can, but I mean, I would assume next week, the guy they're reading off of, Judon, they're like, hey, you're a quarterback all the way, bud. Don't worry about the dive. You go hit this guy every single play.

Is that how you beat that? You just make you, he declares one way or the other every single time? He's got big gaping holes, though. There's a lot of different options. But, yeah, usually the end guy, like, he has responsibility. He can slow play it. Oh, we're going to quarterback all the way. Like, you've got to – that's something, though, you have to work on all week,

though, and you've got to get looks at. Golly. It's awesome. What if the Bears are good all the time? I mean, there's so much – Oh, yeah. Possible. There's so much you can do when the quarterback can run.

It adds – And you can't hit the quarterback anymore, AQ. You used to be like, hey, if he's carrying on his fakes, I'm going to kill this guy. Now you can't do that. No, because they're going to call it, as we've talked about. It should be fair game once they get out of the pocket. But we saw a roughing the passer called, I think I sent it to you, outside of the pocket.

So who knows what the fucking rules are anymore. You actually kind of sounded like you were talking for a defensive side of the ball, which you never do. You're always on the complete opposite side. You're always like, oh, shut up, defensive lineman, is basically your thing. Then there was a roughing the passer call outside of the pocket, and you said, what the fuck are these guys supposed to do? I honestly, the state of the game right now is interesting. I think we're going to figure some stuff out, hopefully,

over the next season or two. Competition committee. Hell, yeah, hopefully they do it. All right. This is sad. Super sad. We're going to highlight two players here. We're going to highlight two players that we will not see the rest of the year.

Damn it. Who have had fantastic starts of the season probably pro bowl type seasons if we were trending and continuing on the season elijah vera tucker we will see hustle his ass off and be running damn near stride for stride with bruce hall at the end here bruce hall fucking stud right i mean you feel so bad for this new york jets team because they finally feel like they got things going in the right direction but the beautiful thing about this let's pause right here here's what's awesome about this play first of all this guy does not get fucking touched in this thing he will not get touched which is unheard of in a run play in the nfl the one thing you're going to see every single one of these guys are running you had a bunch that was a little wider

to start you get the point man right there You get two receivers coming out in the lead. You got Dwayne Brown, big Dwayne Brown, getting around, leading the charge. And then watch all of these guys. They're all going to get to this frontside gap. He gets through. He's going to beat him and make him go underneath. He will come around, get the nice block on 96 to get this thing started. And then you got all these lead blockers with two receivers and Dwayne Brown coming around cleaning this thing up down the edge,

and watch this. Does not get touched for 60 yards, 70 yards, whatever this thing was. Look at that hole. Is that a wide receiver block in 5'6"? Where are we at? Browning? Oh, yeah. That's hell of a... Yeah, 100%. We got two receivers, and we got a point, man. We got three receivers basically on this point, and then big Dwayne Brown. Dewey. Hey, Dewey Brown. Look at this. Watch this block.

Gets the thing started. That's the home run, right? We always talk about it. Look at big fella. Wow. Look at big fella. Moving. I mean, running stride for stride sucks.

He tore his tricep. He's out for the year. He's out for the year. But you've got to love the effort. This is a different New York Jets team. Yeah. This is a team that wants to win. What?

Are winning. That's a shame, though. I mean, it honestly is such a fucking shame, isn't it? But the thing I think I enjoy the most aq is this guy's gonna go boom to boom he's gonna get second level and then this guy's gonna have to track here there's a lot of foot movement to get to the point where the running back's wide open and we have big gaping holes you hit on it man i love this this is a scoop call right center and backside guard get the scoop big fella i mean this guy's like 330, 340 pounds.

He's going to get up underneath. He does a great job holding off just long enough. Now watch. You always say, when you get to the second level, make them lose underneath. That's the biggest thing. You want them to lose underneath. Always lose them on the right side. If he gets over the top, he makes this fucking play.

But just him. Doesn't get a ton on him. But he loses them underneath. And that's the big thing. He takes the back door. And we are out the game. Boom. Jeez. Boom. Boom. But just him. Doesn't get a ton on him. But he loses him underneath. And that's the big thing. He takes the back door, and we are out the game. Boom. Jeez. Boom.

Boom. Boom. Boom. A.J., would you – Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom.

A.J., that's one thing you're taught, right, as a linebacker there. You cannot take the underneath. If you are going to go underneath, you've got to make the play, right? Yeah, they're going to make it look easy. They're going to try to bait you into taking the underneath, and you're right. Never take it. But if you take it, you absolutely better make the tackle. Yeah.

Which he thought he was going to undercut and go, right? That's probably what he thought. It's so hard to make it. You've got to hit that underneath right away if you want to make that tackle. Yep. How good is that, though? This dude is so good. I mean, filthy.

He's so good. Now, granted, I think it's because how good the offensive line is and the scheme is, but you've got to be able to have a guy that can get it when he gets to the next level. That's all he was doing. And then the big fella who's running with him at 300 and whatever he's out to. That is

huge loss. That is tough for Jets fans, man. And Jets fans are going to be like of course, but that's a shame for the entire NFL. You've got a young team that's very fast explosive and hungry and all of a sudden they lose their two best players. How will they respond? We shall see. Sounds like they've got some good guys, though. Sounds like you could put maybe another running back

back there and still be able to get James Robinson, be able to get some yards. Yeah, so they make the trade to get a nice pickup there. They've got four-fifths of their offensive line still intact. Hopefully the guy that steps in for them does a fantastic job. But this, in my opinion, is the best blocked run play of the entire year so far wow let's get

we're in our titles congratulations to the jets who have the best blocked play of the nfl season thus far yeah big honor is there going to be a better one you think oh we got some good ones let's go let's see what we got next what are we watching high school football what we got some good ones. Let's go. Let's see what we got next. What are we watching? High school football. What? What? We got some. What is this? What is it?

That's exactly what I said whenever I saw it. But, man, this is brilliant. This is some really good shit. I hope some more of this stuff. Creativity? Creativity, ingenuity creeps more into the NFL. Pep Hamilton, the offensive coordinator. So what's he trying to do right here?

He's trying to get numbers. If, say, for instance, he's in here or now he's in there, now you've got numbers. You've got two for two, and then they're just going to throw the ball out to either side. If he's in here, two blockers for two, now you throw the ball out there. We get the whole numbers game. These guys are split. He's split. Let's go to the back view. Okay, here we go. So you saw the running back started up here. He motions back. They like this picture. Again, three blockers for three blockers. What they're going to do here, which is really interesting, they end up pushing. They get a double team here and they push out to him. They go one for one here. They basically leave him

unblocked. Again, they could throw it out here. They could throw it out there, or they can hand it off to Pierce, who is running the ball incredibly right now. You're a big fan of this guy. I'm a big fan of the way this guy's running the ball. He's smooth. He's doing a phenomenal job, and you're not going to hear about him because the Houston Texans fucking stink. But... Good play design here. Great play design. Great running back. Hand it off. Watch this move. Watch him set up this. He's going to set this up like he's cutting it back here.

This linebacker is going to play hard right here because he thinks the cutback is coming. All he does is just set him up to hit the big gaping hole right there. Oh, he did. One little stutter step. He flies hard here, and there we are. But, wow. Look at that thing. Dog. That's fun designing Look at that thing. Dog.

That's fun designing. That's a fun play. That's fun if your offense was to run something like that. It'd be cool to see that out of a lot more offense coordinators. Pat Hamilton, shout out. Do you think the defense is just assuming there's no way in hell they're running the ball here? Again, you put everybody.

That's the whole thing about some of this creativity is you're trying to put them in a predicament. You want to make them make a decision. What is he thinking right here? They could go play action throw there, so now he has to hold long. Same thing with him. They could throw it over here, so he has to hold up. He could very easily pull this right now. If Chandler comes, now we throw it, and you've got great numbers on the outside, right? So you're trying to put everybody in a bind to make a decision, and that's the whole purpose of some of these things right now. It is so hard to play offensive line right now because when I came into the NFL,

there was one dude on every team, one. Now every team has three or four. So how do we combat that, right? We try and do some of this creativity stuff. We try and get these guys to hesitate for a sec, bounce over the top, and then you get the big hole. Get these guys out leveraged somewhere else. And that's all you're trying to do is just create some form of a mismatch. That's a first and 10 just out of the middle of nowhere. Unreal.

Just might as well drop this one in. Everybody has to prepare for next week going forward. More plays can be run under there, right? Depending on how people run it. Absolutely. I mean, you can do a billion different things out of that. Play action, quarterback run, whatever it is, right? And just throw it out to the left, throw it out to the right. There's so many things you can do. They need it. Yeah. Big time. And then you got where you fake the quick, and then you got a guy running down the fucking sidewalk on a wheel route. Yep. Ever

heard of it? Heard of it. Ever heard of it? No. You're going to have to be able to protect whenever something like that happens. We did a fake punt that had something like a swinging gauge. Right. Similar. A little numbers game. We snapped it when Sean snapped it, but still the idea was there. Stanford guy. Good thought process.

Right? It was a good thought. Conceptually. Conceptually. In theory. In theory. It was brilliant. Here we go.

Seattle Seahawks. AJ, they line up like that against you. What do you do? Just shit your pants and move on? Yeah, pretty much. You actually hit on it. You said that it gives every defense stuff that they're going to have to sit there and walk through and work and practice, and the

coach is going to spring it on them like Saturday morning to make sure we have everything checked out. And then even when you do, you get in the game, and like you said, it kind of puts everybody they can't really be decisive. Like, okay, I've got to slow play this. Oh, they might throw it outside. Oh, what if they run the ball? You're kind of screwed. It's a good play. They need to do more.

Hey, Frank, put it in. Put it in, Frank. Put it in with Sam Ellinger. Can you be run with him? Frank, put it in. It's a copycat league. That's exactly what it is. It is a copycat league. This is something that needs to be copied more. The Seattle Seahawks are doing

awesome stuff in their run game. Check out what they go. They go a ton of 13 personnel. They love their tight ends right now. AJ, I think this is the play you're talking about. So what's going to happen is it's going to be a toss. This is a big scheme right now. It comes from the Shanahan world, right? And so Shane Waldron, who's the offensive coordinator up there,

came from the Rams, McVay, Shanahan, that whole tree, right? We're going to send him in motion. And here's what I love about this. We're going to send him in quick motion. We're going to snap it while he's got a full head of steam in motion. And these two are basically going to work in conjunction with one another, working Van Noy up to the second level. And this is what I love about this too. These guys, they're having the hardest job because they have to block and they have to run routes, right? And so a lot of times, if they're in a one-on-one block, they can't run off the ball. Why can't they run off the ball?

They're scared to fucking death that this guy has a two-way go and can beat them inside or outside. So by doing this scheme where we're going to send him in motion and he's going to protect his inside, now he can run off the ball, try and get him stretched and get him outside. And then you have him coming inside out. And so when he comes across, here we go. And now watch this. Look at that. And look where he hits.

Hits him in the hip. He's going to fall every time. Gets to the second level. That is the whole reason this play works. Offensive line really can just run off the ball. But the key to it is those two tight ends. Butensive line really can just run off the ball. But the key to it is those two tight ends. But watch the offensive line just run off the ball. They get a double team up to there.

And check this out. He ends up taking his. He picks up his. They basically switch responsibilities on the fly because they run like a form of a cross dog. The hip is the key. Hits the hip. He goes down.

Gets up to the corner. Big. Hell of a fucking. Gaping. Holes. I mean, that's pretty big. And Kenneth Walker is just out the gate. Big, gaping holes. I mean, that's pretty big. And Kenneth Walker is just out the gate. Bye-bye. Michigan State.

Go green. Did he get hurt? No, he's good to go. He's the dude. No, Schultz. Is this Seattle team, is it very similar personnel to last year? Why is their offensive line all of a sudden great this year when last year it fucking sucked? Is line all of a sudden great this year when last year it fucking sucked like is that a more of a product of russell being gone and them

kind of being able to do what they wanted to do probably or what is it well i think i think a lot of it too when you have a guy like russell back there right you're paying him a shit ton of money what do you want to use him for you want to throw it right you got dk you got lock you got all these things and so when you get a guy who maybe at first, right, at the start of the season, now we design this offense where we're going to be run heavy. We're going to protect him. We're going to help him play good defense, get some run, get some gadgets, get some play action, get a billion different things to help him out.

You don't need to help him out anymore because he's proved he's a guy, right? But they've also figured out this 13 personnel with all three tight ends, they can do a lot out of it. These guys are all athletic tight ends, so you can still get the pass game out of it, but you're going to get base defense nine times out of ten, and you can get the runs that you want. You've got your whole playbook in play. How often did they use a formation like this with Russ?

Like, is this completely new? Yeah, they didn't do this a lot. They did not. Team three is like, these motherfuckers. Three tight ends. This is more Cleveland, right? Like, when you turn Cleveland on, Cleveland does this all the time because they want to run the fuck out of it.

How about the timing of when they snap this ball? That's a lot of trust. That's a lot of work on that because Geno can get tripped by this guy going across. The Titans did this against us where they sent a guy in motion, and it was like perfectly timed. It was – the guy was, I think, timing it up perfect as Derrick Henry was about to hit it. And it was the one I sent to you. I'm like, the timing here is so good because that's a lot of trust.

That's a lot of faith. That's a lot of confidence. And that's also, I mean, you kind of got to say, fuck it, and just hope that it all pans out. Everybody's got to buy in and do their job. So much practice goes into all this stuff with the shifts, with the motions, with all the eye cams. I mean, if he gets stripped right there, the fucking play is over.

It's over. Maybe fumble, too. Yeah. I mean, it is. Yeah, or you get the snap a tad early, and now he botches the handoff then, right? And it's perfectly timed. That guy doesn't even have to lose speed. He hits the hip, and then he bounces up.

That's really good shit. Really good stuff. And the key to it is, again, it all comes from the Shanahan tree. You said Tennessee. Tennessee comes from the Shanahan tree. Atlanta comes from the Shanahan tree. The Jets come from the Shanahan tree. I thought Shanahan stunk.

He's got a losing record without Jimmy G. Speaking of... Trent Williams do this, right? A little bit of AQ, but they turned it up inside more, didn't they? When Trent Williams was in motion? Yeah, they did it a little bit with Trent last year. They would start doing that towards the end of the year last year, and also in the playoffs they did it. They would bring in an extra tackle and basically put Trent as the F fullback and do the same shit.

They would fly him across and boom, he's coming inside out trying to kill somebody. And that's not what they're doing on this play, but still something from the Shanahan tree who's affecting everybody's run game, it sounds like. That's worth a fuck? Absolutely. He's been unbelievable. And the copycat league that we speak of,

it is getting taken across the entire league from everybody. Patriots were trying to do that and they had so much trouble with it because they couldn't figure out the zone blocking scheme. Timing? Oh, yeah, because they were trying to do it in the training camp. I remember they couldn't figure it out. So much work has to go into the zone scheme. It's all timing.

It's all footwork. It's all steps. These guys go through a 50-play practice, and 42 of them are runs when most teams go through it, and 42 of them are passes. You're getting your eight runs of practice, and got to make them fucking work right so that's the difference between these guys which also kills them when they're down in the fourth quarter what's the stat i think they're like 1 in 29 when they're down three yes in the fourth quarter under shanahan because everything is predicated off this run game and when they can't run it and they got to do a drop back pass it's not the best situation oh you hate Jimmy J hey

let's rewind this to the beginning Pat if you can't so let's kind of just talk the blocking scheme this is essentially what you would call a Bob play why do you or you can also call it an iso why do you call it Bob back on on backer. Who's the back? You should. Most teams would line him up. Most teams would line him up in the eye or the week and run this iso or bring him

through. You get a double team to there. You get a double team to there. You get a seal block on the backside. Big Trent, you don't got to worry about. He's got the one-on-one basically kick out and he runs off the ball and does a fantastic job on Frank Clark. But here's what I love about what Kyle Shanahan does. There's always one responsibility that he adds a wrinkle to. And so what they would normally do if this was a true ball play, you could bring him from here, send him across and on the snap, we're going to snap it somewhere right when he gets to about here,

he would come through and block the Will linebacker. What is awesome, what is unbelievable, what I love. We love this. It's always one wrinkle. You don't see him. Ayuk's right here. He's right outside this picture. Ayuk and Kyle Juszczyk are going to exchange responsibilities.

But watch his eyes. He thinks Juszczyk's coming for him. So he's going to come up, sit in the hole, He thinks Juszczyk's coming for him. So he's going to come up, sit in the hole, look at Juszczyk, and he's going to get earholed by Ayuk. And when Ayuk comes in, the corner has to trail, and Juszczyk goes right off this block. Watch this. It's going to come right there. Now Juszczyk will come and block Ayuk's guy. And there is the big gaping hole. That's awesome. And then you've got this dude, one-on-one with 22,

and he has no idea where to go, and then he's going to make someone miss. This guy's going to be a problem. He's going to be a problem moving forward. You think so? Just because they're going to give him holes and McCaffrey's going to fucking expose him. 100%. And he's going to have 25 touches a game in so many different ways.

So this was planned for Iyuk to end up blocking this guy. Yep. And for Juszczyk to block this guy. And this guy thinks that this guy's probably getting him, or he's getting a free shot at that guy. Look where his eyes are. He feels so good right now. He's like, oh, I'm going to make this play,

or I'm going to take on Juszczyk, who I've already He's like, oh, I'm going to make this play or I'm going to take on Yusek who I've already got him out leveraged. I'm like, oh, shit. I just got hit from the side. And if you watch the end of this,

you'll see it kind of, look, he goes down. Now he's going to get back up. Ayuk's going to go back after this. Oh. Beast. Watch it. Keep letting it go

if we can, hopefully. Somewhere up there. Ayuk puts him down again. When they're scheming this. Watch it. Keep letting it go if we can, hopefully. Somewhere up there. IU puts them down again. When they're scheming this. Hell, yeah. When they're scheming this during the week, IU obviously being a wideout, like who is his wide receiver coach scheming that for him, or is this in a team meeting?

How does that work as far as this goes? So whoever's doing the run game, which we've talked about, Chris Burster, the offensive line coach there, is working in cahoots with Shanahan. This is all Shanahan stuff. But you get these different ideas every week, and you get these different little wrinkles, like I said, off of all their stuff, which is awesome with what they do always is you always get angles. Everything they do in Shanahan's scheme is to get angles.

So now instead of a guy working like this. What's the angle? C-angle. What's the angle? We get the angle here. We get the angle here. These guys can just seal. get angles. So now, instead of a guy working like this, we get the angle here. We get the angle here. These guys can just seal. You get cheeks. We're looking for cheeks, boys.

Always looking for cheeks. Seal block. There's your block. There's your hole. Imagine the play action off of that. You got linebackersers don't want to get cracked they just shoot it up in there like oh no this is a naked this is a boot here and then the guys are running scott free i mean how good is this aj right like i mean you've seen a billion

different schemes right like how good is this when you can take what has been drawn up as a weak side iso for a hundred years and you just add one little thing and everybody's like kyle shanahan's brilliant, which he is, because most people are scared to make that little adjustment. But if they're not leading in the fourth quarter, then he's not brilliant, you're saying. Then it's tough. Then it's tough. I think the thing that I enjoy about this in the trenches is

we would have never known that that's a scheme thing. We would have been just like, oh, you got blocked into that guy. And then at first, it's like no, like they schemed this up perfectly and the Chiefs did exactly what they thought they were going to do. And how could you not, I guess, if you're the Chiefs is what AJ was saying. Exactly. I mean, that's what I love about it. And I also think with you, Sheck, going there and them exchanging responsibilities,

it gives Trent the freedom to run off the ball because I think he can help him if he does work inside. You see what I'm saying? So they're almost working in conjunction. Who's the offensive line coach doing this? Chris Furster. Dog. What is he?

He's great. Famous for? Where was he before? Stud. Was he in Miami? Really good coach. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They were both.

That's right. Dolphins O-line meeting. Oh, yeah. Let's get fired up. He's fucking a great offensive line coach, though, you're saying. He's arguably the best in the NFL. He's my favorite. He's got more hours in the day than everybody else.

Very, very good. Yeah. Energy like you couldn't dream about. Hey, we got some big bumps. Big bumps? Big bumps. This week there was a couple big bumps. A couple big bumps.

A couple big bumps. What I love, I love this guy coming out in the draft. Comes from Wisconsin, Whitewater, Division III. So what's he doing when he comes into the NFL? He's coming in with a chip on his shoulder. Hell yeah. I love guys with chips on their shoulder because they're always trying to prove. They're always trying to be pricks.

They're always trying to do the extra dirty stuff. He was on Good Morning Football every day. Yeah, two months. He's the prince of GMFB. He was doing a great job on there every morning. He was lifting logs and shit. Yeah. Has dreads, right? Yes, he does. Yeah, two months. He's the prince of GMFB. He was doing a great job on there every morning. He was lifting logs and shit. Has dreads, right? Yes, he does. Okay, yeah, and we know who you're talking about. Dog.

Quinn Miners. We're going to get a little man play. We're going to get a pin and pull. Here's the pin. Here's the pull. Check this out. We're getting a trap right here. Now watch Quinn. He gets him down. And now watch this. Now gets him down. And now watch this. Uh-oh.

Now wait for it. Boom! That's not legal. Look how excited this guy just got. That's not legal. Look at that smile. I mean, that is unbelievable. That wasn't legal. I thought they made that.

You guys aren't allowed to do that anymore. Yeah, that was a fucking cheap shot. I love it. He was getting up. He was on his way up. If there's no flag, hey, keep doing that, Quinn. Finish the play. Boom.

Finish him. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. How good is that? Jeez. Pretty sweet.

You love that guy, huh? I just love finish. That's why I like Tevin Jenkins. The guy's trying to finish on every play. Hell yeah. Tevin Jenkins, right guard from the Chicago Bears. Right guard from the Bears. He's been on the big bump segment this year.

He's also, he's always helping and trying to go get ribs. He's trying to bury people. He's trying to put people down. So this is called big, dirty bumps? Yeah. No, this is called big bumps. Big, dirty bumps. It's an STD.

So, like, offensive linemen are like that guy that tried taking a rib from Jesus. They're always trying to get ribs? Always trying to get ribs. Well, I think the rib was marriage, wasn't it? Yeah. This play just – I thought that was to create Eve. To create Eve.

You know, I – Marilyn did the ribs so he could fellatio. Suck his dick, he did. That's right. My bad. He's ding-ding. So good for him. We'll start calling these Marilyn's so we can finish his part.

Because we're taking ribs out. Yeah. These are called Marilyn – no, Marilyn Manson. Marilyn Monroe just had a movie. Apparently it wasn't good. Stunk. Marilyn Monroe's been dead for 50 years. Moment of silence for Marilyn Monroe.

Damn. They just made a movie about her, dude. Who killed her? Ana de Armas. I don't know. I do not know anything about Marilyn Monroe. Super. Connor does.

Yeah, I know how she died. We're trying to have a moment of silence for Marilyn Monroe. I apologize. Wasn't she friends with Fidel? I just found out she passed away. What's so funny? Everybody needs to relax. A couple weeks ago.

No. This is almost as bad as Shinzu, I assume, with how everybody's acting. I assume Marilyn Monroe's been dead for a long time. Not nearly as long as she and Zoo. Her movie. In AJ's referencing, it does appear she might have been death by a doorknob. And we know how that all works.

What? Doorknob. Big political shows, remember that. That's right. I don't know what that means. Yeah, you do. I don't either. No.

Rest in peace, Marilyn Monroe. I don't. Rest in peace. Like Tony. Are we going back to some big stories? Yeah, let's do it don't either. No. Rest in peace, Amaro. I don't. Rest in peace. Like Tony. Are we going back to some big targets? Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. Where are we?

In the trenches? That wasn't her. We're in a lot of trenches right now. Not just the football ones. Well, we got here. I wouldn't rather be in any other trench with any other guys. Hell yeah. I pray not for winning because God willing we shall.

God willing we shall. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Let's go. We ready? Hell yeah.

I got a conversation with some senators tonight about our guy Gump, by the way. Let's go. I'm tired of running around. If you don't get anywhere, maybe mention UFOs. See where we're at on that front. Are you talking to Dr. Oz or? He's running. I see the ads.

Is he? Sure is. Are you talking to Kane? Not an actual position. He's doing like a... Governor, I'm pretty sure. Governor? Yeah.

Wow. Pennsylvania. He's from Pennsylvania? He's going against... It's a heated battle. Dr. Oz is from Pennsylvania? He's going against some guy from Braddock. Or not Braddock.

Yeah. Yeah, Braddock. Braddock? Yeah. Fetterman's from Braddock? There he is. Revital not Braddock. Yeah. Yeah, Braddock. Braddock? Yeah. Fetterman's from Braddock? There he is. Revitalized Braddock. Fetterman?

Oh, boy. Fetterman's running this year? I think it's a big left versus right fucking political race. Most are. Oh, you don't say. No, no. I mean, like, this is a big one. He's like far left, far right.

This is a big one. Dr. Oz? Yeah. All right. Where does he fall? Oh, we know where he falls. He's in Pennsylvania one. Dr. Oz? Yeah. All right. Where does he fall? Oh, we know where he falls. He's in Pennsylvania, I guess. People are pissed because I guess he lives in either Jersey or New York or something.

I'm startled to know that he's from Pennsylvania. He's not. Okay. All right, great. He's running now. He's going to be the governor of a state he doesn't live in or from? I didn't know that was legal. Can you do that?

I guess so. I guess so. Well,'s there, I guess. Well, good luck out there, Dr. Oz. You got it, Doc. Good luck out there to the guy from Braddock, too. If a guy becomes governor from fucking Braddock, what a story. For those who don't know, Braddock is a...

I mean, you gotta be a real motherfucker to be from Braddock. That's awesome. Get that guy in office, then. I mean, Dr. Oz is running for governor? I think the Braddock guy too is not on like, he's not on Connorside. Oh, yeah, because I was thinking Dr. Drew. Dr. Oz

is on Connorside. Dr. Drew is running for governor? No, that's what I pictured in my mind. Same. Dr. Drew did go to school, okay? Has many, that was the guy we had on. Yeah, Dr. Oz, didn't he go to school? Yes,

he did. I don't know, he's running for governor, I guess. Jesus. All right, let's move on. He's not on my side?

Is he trying to bring fucking mass back to Pennsylvania? No, no, Dr. Oz, I think you'd like his running. Yeah, Dr. Oz on your side. Okay.

Yeah. On your side, we're Americans. What are we fucking talking about? That's right, we're on American side. You heard Connor earlier about fucking sleepy

time and coloring books. Look, I'm not the one that makes the commander-in-chief schedule, alright? It's him. What is your problem? That's our president. Might be Pennsylvania's governor, Dr. Ross. He used to have a pretty daytime show. Careful with our president, too. AJ's going to get pissed

and hang up if you say that. Are we not all on the side of everybody we are aj i am liberty and justice for all amen amen we see right through you con we see right through that's impossible i'm fat idiot senate by the way as well not for government either way same thing i don't know what that means i'm talking to some of them tonight stay centered let's go i need to get we need to get gumpy back in yes why'd you tell us to talk about this touring your segment i didn't yeah i didn't you tell us to talk about this during your segment? I didn't know you were getting political

within the trenches all of a sudden. What's this guy's deal? Sounds like you're the most political one out of everybody. That's what I'm learning here. Anyways, rest in peace to Marilyn Monroe. I miss you, Marilyn. Honestly. Marilyn Manson will be what we call the cheap shots to the ribs

because they're trying to take one out. Dr. Oz's right. And Marilyn Manson will be what we call the cheap shots to the ribs because they're trying to take one out. Perfect. Dr. Oz, all right. Guy from Braddock, good luck. All right. All right. All right. All right.

All right, let's get into this. We're in the trenches with Calvin. Is this a big bump here? It's a big bump. Optic bump or, like, actual bump? It's a – this one will get talked about in this offensive line room all week long. Oh. Okay. This one will get talked about in this offensive line room all week long. Oh, okay.

Not optically like, okay, we just crushed him sideways. But who do we got here? We got Aiden Hutchinson. Top five pick, right? Number two. Number two. Number two overall. There it is.

You're not going to be real excited after this one. Why are we picking on the rookie? He had a good game. Tyler Smith, other rookie. We got another rookie, right? First round pick. Tall side, Blue. Top 20 pick.

Great set. Hands are ready. Let's go. Get your hands on them. Oh, the bull rush is coming. What are we going to do now? Tork him. Oh.

Damn. Oh, my gosh. Come on. It's a great finish. It's a great finish. It's a great finish. It's like holding to me. Hands are inside. Now we're going to torque him inside. Drag them down.

And we just bury him. Hutch. Come on. Hutch had a big-time third-down sack this game. Two of them. Yep. Finally got some sacks out of him. Finally got some production out of him.

Whoa. Someone's pushing it in. Here we go. That's not a position you want to be in. When we look at that, that's a great way to slow this thing. Watch this thing. Oh, he slides. He's like, oh, shit.

Oh, shit. What do I do? I miss Michigan. I'm happy he didn't get hurt. Yeah. That's dangerous. Yeah. That is dangerous.

But how good is that by the rookie left tackle? It's pretty good. Ate the bull rush. If he would have been hurt, though. AQ, if you would have been hurt,? It's pretty good. If he would have been hurt, though, AQ, if he would have been hurt, sorry to cut you off, they probably would have changed the rules and said this is illegal. He would be up in arms, I bet. I mean, it is A.N. Hutchinson.

Well played, AJ. He was the guy. He's not having as fast as the starters are, but I thought he had a sack this past weekend. He had two sacks this weekend. Two sacks this weekend? Yeah, and then he did have three in one game, but let's keep in mind. Five sacks? That's pretty good.

But it was against Carl Wentz. Who cares? It's five sacks. No, I like it. I think he's doing really good. I mean, he's young, too. He's got five sacks? Yeah.

What are you saying? I'm saying he got buried on that particular play. That's what I'm saying. Hey, we appreciate it. Ladies and gentlemen, it's been an entrenched Zakey show. Thank you. We had to veer off there to have a moment of silence, and then that led into a conversation about a guy from Braddock taking on Dr. Oz in a fucking.

So he's running for something in Braddock? No, he used to be the mayor of Braddock. Yeah. Now he's running for Senate. But isn't Senate also, or is that just the whole state? Two of those per state. Say, fuck it. Well, there's also state senators. Less important.

Well, the state senator was the one that came out about the commander's football field, and we all thought it was actual senators, and it was a big deal. Right? Correct. What is Dr. Oz doing? Senate. Actual Senate? Yes. In Pennsylvania? Yep.

Interesting. Good luck? Yep. Interesting. Good luck out there, everybody that wants to change the world. You got this. Hope you do, honestly. We're all counting on you. We're all counting on you to figure it out. Let's hope we do that. Right, AJ? Oh, yeah. We'll get it figured out.

Well, hopefully, everybody goes to the ballot box and picks the right answers. That's right. And then everything gets figured out quickly. Mm-hmm. It's that easy. Let me look at this fucking guy. That guy's a dog.

Yeah, that's Braddock, dude. Hell yeah. Yes. I have no idea what this guy looked like, but when we were talking about somebody from Braddock earlier, I thought of this guy. Yeah. This is the guy. Yeah.

That's a thin blue line tattoo? Yeah. Dude, Braddock don't play. I'm telling you, if a guy from Braddock ends up being, that's a big deal. That's a big storyline. Yeah, I don't know why AQ's making fun of this guy. Is that what I look like? Yeah.

You do kind of look like that guy. If we get you a floor. Dr. Oz has double sleeves, I heard. No mustache. That's what set him apart. Just the goats at the bottom. He's got some L Luca Garza in him. Well, good luck to everybody running into the thing.

I hope you're the right one. Get it done. I think those are soon. If I know anything about politics, I know a lot of talking right now. And then not a lot of walking on the other side. That's right. This is the year that that changes, right? Should be.

Register to vote. Register to vote. And whoever you vote for, make sure it's the person that's going to fucking work. That's right. That's what we want. I don't know enough about it to give my influence on anybody, so I will be responsible with my platform, which other people should think about doing as well.

But I would like to let everybody know whoever you vote for, make it the right one, because we're all living in this shit together. Hell yeah. Well said. I can't wait for the celeb videos trying to guilt us into voting. Those are always awesome. I'm going to move, and then they never move

because they've actually been to other countries. And other countries suck when you go to them for more than four days. There's a chance that every country has their downfalls. But it would be nice. It would be nice if everybody got it right every time. It would. This time, I would like everybody to get it right. Let's do some common sense. Let's fucking get it right because our lives depend on it every fucking day.

And those voting in Indiana, whoever's figuring out city planning, state planning, potholes, would love to see what marijuana could do on the entire ballot. Highway reconstruction. Highway reconstruction. Let's make sure we vote those people out. I'm not doing enough research to know who those people are. I'm counting on Hoosiers to do it. That's right.

That are much smarter than me. Good thoughts. Register to vote. Register to vote. That's our show. That's where our show is every day, isn't it? Yeah. Boom.

Boom. Boom. Boom. That's where our show is every day. I tuned in. Oh, I watched a decent amount of you guys Saturday night, and I tuned in towards the end when you guys were throwing the football back and forth.

Boom. Boom. For like five minutes. Seven. I think it was like seven minutes, I think. Did anyone count? You guys look good. The ball still hasn't hit the ground.

You guys are spinning it. Hell yeah. What the fuck were we supposed to do for that? To make it it? What were we? It might have been the most boring game of all time. It's tough because they knew. Like the stats were on the game.

108 to nothing or something in the last 45 minutes. What are you talking about? The spread was only 21 and a half. That was awesome. That was the last bet I've won. About the Patriots losing. What the fuck? I don't want to close the show on a bad note, but Connor, you're not off the hook yet.

We've got to revisit this tomorrow on whether or not the Patriots are dead. The quarterback situation will obviously break down more Senator races across the country as we move into political season. AJ, I appreciate you joining us. AQ, great work today. Tone, what a job. Hammer is in like 15 minutes

at youtube.com forward slash hammer. New studio about to debut here in the next week or so. The talk's at the table at Boston Corner. I'm Ty Schmidt. All the boys in the back, I appreciate you. Obviously, Jordan Schultz, Aaron Rodgers, thank you so much for your time. Let's make the world a little better place. Let's make it a little happier place.

Let's say nice things to each other, and let's try to enjoy this time that is very limited we have together. Ladies and gentlemen, we'll see you in about 20 hours. Goodbye!