The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 769 - Shams Charania, Everything DB With Darius Butler LIVE From The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: October 26, 2022

On today's show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about the news that Russell Wilson spent 4 of the 8 hours of the Broncos trip to London stretching and walking up and down the aisles of... the team plane, and why his life is seemingly more and more like a mockumentary, and everything else happening around the NFL as we approach week 8 of the season. Joining the progrum to chat about everything happening around the NBA thus far including Zion's health status, if Kawhi Leonard is ever going to be an every day player again, the Lakers' struggles, Kyrie potentially receiving back pay from the state of New York for not playing last year, and much more is NBA Insider for Stadium and The Athletic, and co-host of Run It Back on FanDuel TV, Shams Charania (28:24-48:40). Later, 9 year NFL veteran at Defensive Back and friend of the progrum, Darius Butler breaks down all the best DB play from this last week in his Everything DB Segment (2:06:52-2:46:02). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello beautiful people. It is winter Wednesday, October 26th, 2022 and this dumb sports show starts right now. Football is obviously the topic of conversation every single day whenever you're in the middle of an NFL season. We are sitting on a Wednesday which means week eight is tomorrow. Week seven was behind us but we're in a beautiful spot to kind of judge everything. You hear that sound? Oh, yeah. That one I got. Is it D-Bud?
Starting point is 00:00:33 Eight. A little crackling. Blame it on the black guy. That did sound like that. Yeah, it is. Well, you didn't come in on Monday because you didn't want to hang out with us because we're white. That was AQ day.
Starting point is 00:00:44 It might be the ring light. No, he's Tuesday. Maybe it's the ring light. I got in late Monday. I don't want to hang out with us because we're white. That was on a Tuesday. It might be the ring light. No, he's Tuesday. Maybe it's the ring light. I got in late Monday. I don't know if it's the ring light. It might be this thing. It's gone now. How's it going now?
Starting point is 00:00:54 Pretty good. Sounds good. All right, that's this thing. We tried to fix something. We messed up something else potentially. Nonetheless, we are thankful and excited to be here on this glorious Wednesday where we'll get a chance to chat with the host of Everything DB and the Man to Man podcast and potentially either the victim of racism just And obviously one half of the hammer, Don Cowboys, Tony Diggs is here. All the boys in the back, we appreciate the hell out of everybody's work.
Starting point is 00:01:31 We almost had an internet crashing just moments before we went live here at the Vandal Thunderdome. And, you know, people would say, how could you have an internet outage or a power outage at the Thunderdome? Isn't that why you moved from your last office? True. Well, I'll tell you what, we tried triple stamp, double stamp, ordered 2,000 up, 2,000 down, 1,000 up, 1,000 down from two different internet companies. Now we're going into week eight of the NFL season. Obviously we're supposed to start on Thursday night when the Rams took on the bills for the
Starting point is 00:01:59 opener of the game. So it's like about eight weeks we're supposed to be in this place. We only have one of the internets that we have definitely paid for and ordered because the other one putting it in somehow and getting all through it and then the other internet the one internet that we do have wasn't supposed to be our main internet supposed to be our backup internet but they were able to put the internet in here they had a crash uh right before we went live in our entire area so we're excited that we were able to get fucking on air today. We're very thankful to be here. We have a hardwire of another internet that is running right across the middle of the basketball court
Starting point is 00:02:30 that Zito put together right before we went live, just in case everything crashes. This is what we learned from the last office to this office. Now we've got a hardwire plugged into something that's supposed to be our third internet option that might be our only internet option. And that's what happens whenever you operate on the internet, and the internet's being controlled by a couple companies and they don't really give a fuck about everybody and how much they use yeah absolutely not interesting now we work on the
Starting point is 00:02:51 internet make a good living on the internet we're thankful for the internet love the internet so we have to be you know thankful to the internet as a whole but with that being said the internet companies are running quite a racket it It is quite a racket going on. They control everything. They know it. And we're happy to be on the receiving end of that. For sure. And I think you can put your ears back in because there's still a little bit of blipity blip blip.
Starting point is 00:03:13 So it was not an issue with your situation. Okay. So I can hear stuff. Yes. I'm excited about that. Let's talk about some stuff that we have heard. This news came just moments ago. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:28 The Denver Broncos are currently playing in London time this weekend. They've traveled over there. We've seen Russell Wilson walking onto the practice field in London with his over-the-ear headphones on. He looked locked in. He looked focused. If we know anything about Russell Wilson, the founder of Team 3, Mr. Unlimited, we know that he's never going to miss an opportunity to get better.
Starting point is 00:03:55 He's never going to miss the chance to make himself the best version of Mr. Unlimited that he can become. For the first time, I think, in NFL history, they've been playing games over there for like 20 years. Russell Wilson did not just fly over to London. What? He took four hours of the eight-hour trip and worked out on the fucking plane while his other teammates slept.
Starting point is 00:04:21 This report came via a tweet right before we came live. Zach Stevens, DNVR. You start doing some quick thinking, that seems like Zach Stevens, Denver. This man has his inside sources. Russell Wilson worked out and stretched for four of the eight hours on a flight from Denver to London. Said he was doing high knees in the aisle when the rest of the guys were asleep. I assume if I send some text messages to somebody that's on the Denver Broncos team,
Starting point is 00:04:45 they would send back that they were trying to sleep, not actually asleep. Trying to sleep. The reason they couldn't sleep is because at 40,000 feet, there was a fucking guy doing high knees in the aisle who was their starting quarterback. I love this. He's always focused. He's always getting better. D-Butt, your thoughts on Russell Wilson taking four out of the eight hours
Starting point is 00:05:05 to fucking get better out there. Not shocked at all. It's the same guy when he had the mallet finger. He was, what, rehabbing 19 hours a day, right? Yeah, 19 hours a day. Didn't work for him, though. What are you talking about? I mean, other quarterbacks played with the injury.
Starting point is 00:05:20 He didn't, even though he does have Wolverine blood. And if you think you guys – now, this is one of the funniest tweets I've ever seen in my entire life. Just the whole, from beginning to end, because it ended with that his teammates couldn't sleep. He's not flying over with his teammates. He has his own fucking office in that building. He's flying over on his own fucking jet. No!
Starting point is 00:05:38 Team 3 was with him, though. Probably a hyperbaric chamber on his plane that he's flying over there. Well, I assume that is potentially true, but there is he had Team 3 on his iPad while he's flying over there. Well, I assume that is potentially true. But there is, he had Team 3 on his iPad while he was up there. Had to have good internet so he could be in contact with Team 3. And they were actually live on the other side, putting him through the workout. That's right.
Starting point is 00:05:55 So they were doing high knees. You don't think they were on the plane? Team 3? Yeah. You think they're putting, you think so? Yeah, damn right. In the new deal? A.G. and Brady guys on the plane, Team 3 is on the plane.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Well, are they on the plane, A.G. and Brady's guys, or are they traveling separately in a different plane? Oh, is that one week whenever there's a wedding for somebody that he had to go to and miss a walkthrough and fly by himself and fly home by himself and his terribly optics and they look bad? You're talking about that? Yes, I'm talking about that. We're not talking about that.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Okay. We're talking about Team 3 being on. You think maybe a whistle. What if Team 3, sitting on the plane, hey Russ, remember, we're operating still on mountain time or whatever the hell it is. It is time for our cool down, our night cool down. So, he's doing high knees. Alright, and then they blow a whistle again in the middle of the fucking plane. night cool down. He's doing high knees. And then they blow a whistle again in the middle of the fucking point.
Starting point is 00:06:49 All right, stretch. Russ is doing a full fucking workout. The Denver Broncos strength coach is sitting right behind him. What the fuck did I sign up for? This guy. The rest of the teammates have to watch that and wonder about everything about that guy. He needs to start winning again so that everything he does isn't judged in a negative fashion. I think that.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Agree, 1,000%. When he was spending a million dollars and he had a Peloton team and he had an arm team and a cardio team and a social team and a hair team and a dress team and a car team. And whenever he was doing all that and they were winning, it was cool. Everybody was like, this guy's invested. This guy's awesome. Oh, he's his own. He's always his own self. He gets to be his true self. Mr. Unlimited.
Starting point is 00:07:29 It was all a positive. You know, this guy has his own thing. You start losing, you start doing danger witches commercials like that. Now it's like, oh, this guy fucking stinks. This guy's a fraud. This is a fugazi. There's no way this human's real. Then he says he has Wolverine blood.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Then he's out the next week. He didn't play. This guy blows. What's your problem? I don't know. I'm just he has Wolverine blood. It's like, then he's out the next week. He didn't play. This guy blows. What's your problem? I'm just saying what people might say. I'm not saying that. We're quoting people. Yes, and we don't have to worry about the Danger Witch anymore because Subway said, oh, this guy does actually stink. We're going to
Starting point is 00:07:55 pull it off. No, they pulled the video. Commercial. I thought they all see. I saw an internet report where yeah, they had to make room for other sandwiches, so the Danger Witch was not on the menu anymore, but they still had it. Oh, it's on the secret menu. Correct.
Starting point is 00:08:14 The Danger Witch still lives, but you've got to order it off menu. And that was a report you heard on the internet? I think that was from the New York Post, if I remember correctly. That could be. Okay. It is. They're not just reporting stuff on the internet. They do in real too who knows if it's real a lot of stuff yeah a lot of reporting personally i love this i absolutely love this because he has been trying a little bit
Starting point is 00:08:35 russ is now working himself into drew brees territory where he's just going to make it about himself one last time every single time any way any way he can. Hey, Team 3, how can I make this about myself? I know the team's got issues. I know we got issues with everything that's going on. How can I kind of put the onus on me, not in a negative light, but in a positive light, talk about how great I am? How can I make this about myself? Well, Russ, you want to work out for four to the eight hours
Starting point is 00:09:00 while everyone else is sleeping or maybe doing some team bonding stuff? Oh, brilliant. Yeah, I got it. Oh, brilliant. I want to make it really obvious. Do high knees in the fucking aisle. He's flying over the fucking Atlantic Ocean. You think it goes up to Adele before the game on Sunday and says,
Starting point is 00:09:17 hey, do you think we could change the lyrics maybe to God Save the Kingdom, maybe God Save the Three? Jeez, what is your problem? Is Adele singing it? That was in my fucking dream world she was. So whoever sings it, it God saved the three. Jeez, what is your problem? Is Adele singing it? That was in my fucking dream world she was. So whoever sings it, it's always good though. Yeah. Susan Boyle.
Starting point is 00:09:31 That whole place goes bananas. Susan Boyle, also very talented. She goes off when she sings it. Well, yeah, but what I was saying was I think everybody does when they sing it over there. Oh, okay. They'll have some like opera star over there sing it the national anthem will be sung by somebody and it will be done okay here we go when god save the queen or god save the king comes on for those people it is the fucking best 45 seconds of their lives do you hear the
Starting point is 00:10:00 electricity over there when you watch those games the entire stadium is belting it as loud as they can. The whole place is, it is, it's pretty electrifying, to be honest with you. And I didn't know we had another London game coming. I thought we were going to Germany and Mexico. I didn't know we had London this weekend. We got a 930 fucking game. Jag, right? I mean, this is the London game because it's the Jaguars.
Starting point is 00:10:23 It's a home team. It's a home team. Troy and Joe on the call, too. We get to see those weird Jaguar masks or the people that are painted their face as Jaguars. They're kind of spooky every time we see them. Yeah, but I felt like the Packers felt like a home game over there. Sure. Right?
Starting point is 00:10:39 So, I think the London people are like, just because the Jags weren't able to sell out their stadium and they were coming in games over here, don't give us, oh, we are not necessarily. Jags again? I mean, we are coming to the games. We are coming to the games because American sports, like when we went over there, it was an American sports celebration. It felt like a lot of jerseys. There was Jags fans.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Jags beat us that game. So there was a lot to cheer for. So I think a lot of people were like, oh, this is awesome, good stuff. But I think they've shown out for a lot of the other teams as well yeah are the jags going to be the team that goes over there if they go over there is the expansion team going to happen that is very fascinating to have that conversation because that's taking a salary cap way if you had four more teams think about it i mean more how many games that is how many more markets that is because that 9 30 market will become intact if they have a division over there
Starting point is 00:11:25 you have that every single fucking week premier league has been banking off of that in the morning people wake up and there's nothing else on oh we can watch some fucking soccer bet on it it's awesome it's our sport now too so we can watch the other people used to have it play on tv in the united states can celebrate that we are winning the world cup in qatar here and yeah a couple months we would recommend nobody to go to the World Cup, though. Do not go. I think, is Dan O calling this game? Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:11:51 In London? No, it's exclusive ESPN+. I believe it's exclusive ESPN+. Oh, Rich and them are calling Germany. Yeah. Seattle. Rich, Michael Irvin, that whole crew. Kurt, Mooch. They do that once a year. Well, they used Michael Irvin. That whole crew. Kurt.
Starting point is 00:12:07 They do that once a year. Well, they used to do it for the London games. And then Sanchez and Kevin Kugler were doing the first couple England games now. This is Orlovsky's doing this 9.30 game? I swear Troy and Joe said that they were going to London on Monday night. Because then they have to fly back for the
Starting point is 00:12:23 Cincy. I love that 930 time slot, though. It's the best. And if they have a division over there? Two games at 930? It'd be unbelievable. The Broncos Jaguars will air on ESPN Plus, making it the first exclusive NFL game for the streaming service. I don't know who's calling it, but it's on ESPN Plus.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Oh, so we've got to go to Peyton's Places, huh? Yeah. That's right. Peyton's Places. Stephen A's World. Stephen A's World, Stephen A's List. People will love trying to find that. go to Peyton's Places, huh? Yeah. That's where Peyton's Places is. Stephen A's World. Stephen A's World. Stephen A's List. People will love trying to find that.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Abby Wambach's Places. She's got one on there. Ronda Rousey. Ronda Rousey. Eli Manning has something on there. Matchups on there. Yeah. That's right.
Starting point is 00:12:58 But it's not just exclusive there. You're also on ESPN and ESPN2. Yep. Now this says it's on ABC too. What the fuck? We just had a full conversation. Where was this report on the internet? The first one you said is the first exclusive.
Starting point is 00:13:13 NBC Sports. So maybe NBC Sports is trying to drive a little bit of a win. I hope you're happy. Get to watch us on ESPN Plus the first time ever. You're going to have to... I'm excited for it. 930 games are awesome. If they have a full division in England or Europe, Get to Washington on ESPN Plus the first time ever you're going to have to. I don't know. I'm excited for it.
Starting point is 00:13:25 930 games are awesome. If they have a full division in England or Europe, I didn't even think about that. They'll have 930 games all the time. This will be a new norm. And if you talk about the TV market, which directly affects the salary cap, I mean, that is great news for everybody. All right, now that we have Darius here.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Darius, yesterday you weren't a part of the conversation. The conversation about our conversation from yesterday with Aaron Rodgers is a lot about the accountability and him calling out his teammates, him calling out his coach. He never called out either of them, but everybody's taking his message as shots at both people and everything like that because they're not winning right now. It is obviously a different tone of a conversation with
Starting point is 00:14:05 him yesterday and i'm not saying that is a negative thing i'm happy that that happened actually because i mean if he didn't i think we would all be worried yeah about how even more how invested i would also worry about how if he wasn't a little bit different than he normally is i think i would have been worried about how invested he is sounds like he's's still all in. Sounds like he's very optimistic. But the big takeaways are him talking about if you're making mistakes, you shouldn't play. And big takeaways, he's calling out people through the media. What were your thoughts on how Aaron did yesterday? And what are your thoughts on the reaction of what Aaron did yesterday in a conversation
Starting point is 00:14:38 with us right here? I mean, you can definitely tell he's still invested. And he said it's fair that fans are frustrated with the team. I've just never been a big fan of guys sending messages through the media, and I feel like it was kind of a shot. You're talking about playing time. That's a direct shot at the coach a couple weeks ago. Okay, so you thought that was a shot at the coach because everybody on the Internet
Starting point is 00:15:01 or some – not everybody. Some people are saying that's a shot at his teammates. Well, that first and foremost, but the coach decides, you know, who plays. Okay. Who's getting the reps. So there's levels. Yeah, it's, you know, obviously, and everybody knows that. The coach is calling the shots in that department.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Then, you know, simplifying offense. I wouldn't necessarily say that's a shot, but you're sitting and talking, you know, for 45 minutes, like you're going to say some shit that maybe comes off the wrong way. But just like the rush hit, all that, you know, for 45 minutes, like you're going to say some shit that maybe comes off the wrong way. But just like the rush shit, all that, you know, lame shit he does is cool when he's winning. But when you start losing, now you take shots at everything. And obviously Aaron Rodgers is a guy that, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:36 people are going to take shots at any opportunity they get for the last couple of years. So, you know, that's that. That's been his whole career. Long time. But, I mean, he's got a lot louder. Oh, yeah. Because of New York Supreme Court.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Nobody saw it. I didn't hear many people talking about that. What are you talking about? What were you saying? What were you bringing up? I was just saying, it got loud around Aaron Rodgers. Why? I still don't get it.
Starting point is 00:16:01 What are you talking about? Why are we sending just these blanket statements out? What are you talking about? Why are we sending, you know, just these blanket statements? What are we talking about? It's not being so vague. We got some guests on later. We'll probably get into some other stuff. Shams Charania will be joining us in 12 minutes to chit-chat about the New York Supreme Court ordering back pay for all the state employees who were fired because of their vaccination status. That came out yesterday.
Starting point is 00:16:23 Oh, well, well. Talking about that immunized part. Wait, they're getting back pay for killing people? Well... They're rewarding it now? Because they didn't get their fucking vaccine. They killed, what, at least three, four people? Well, I got vaccinated.
Starting point is 00:16:41 You remember, I got vaccinated since I was letting a non-vaccinated person talk, I was killing people. You remember that? I was killing people. Blood's on your hands. I was killing people. Turns out you were killing people, even if you got vaxxed, because Pfizer came out and said it didn't stop the transmission between people.
Starting point is 00:16:55 So everybody killed everybody. Is that a report on the internet right there? No, that one was actually, that was real. At Biden? That one. What are you doing what what what what was that we put a name to the headline here oh i didn't that sounded aggressive i don't know if he you know was the one huh well i don't know i don't know any of it i do know that it does sound like because i have you know seen these particular stories there's gonna be a lot of a lot of fallout with what happened the last couple years with decisions that were
Starting point is 00:17:33 made and i don't know it like it never fucking happened no i don't think so i don't it sounds like this is gonna be uh i don't know i saw a couple people cracking beer celebrating this morning because of it and those people did lose their jobs because of uh what is now going on in the supreme or the new york state court yeah but i'm just saying like not only that i think that's obviously a big decision that's made and we'll talk to sean shirani to see if they're are they gonna pay kairi that's you know it's kairi is kairi better kairi getting his money back because he wasn't allowed to work because he was working in a state employee building or whatever.
Starting point is 00:18:05 I don't know. You guys chose debates last night? What's that? You guys chose debates last night? I did see that the guy from Braddock that I learned of his existence yesterday had a conversation with Dr. Oz last night on a stage. Did he crush? So you guys brought that conversation up yesterday on purpose because you guys knew that was coming? Did you, please?
Starting point is 00:18:23 I learned about Dr. Oz fucking trying to get into the government game for pennsylvania i didn't know dr oz i'm from pennsylvania dr i know pennsylvania big fucking state i'm talking like six hour drive from one side of the other but i had no idea dr oz was a pennsylvania i learned yesterday holy shit dr oz is about to be in the government for the uh for pennsylvania and then in follow-up i found out a guy from fucking Braddock is maybe going to be in the government of Pennsylvania. So yesterday was quite a... Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:18:49 I feel like I've missed a lot. And then they just so happened to have a debate last night that the entire world was talking about. What doctor I was a doctor of? Fucking life. What's this guy's name? Come on, just like Phil, Tony.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Okay. I don't know. Well, Dr. Phil's a doctor of psychology i don't know but my man from braddock had a rough night last night i think oh no i think he was trending because of it yeah but anyways this is what government still is yeah i'm learning this is what this is what it still is i don't exactly i don't go i don't go into that world much i try to stay away from it completely and i people call me irresponsible it's like, I also won't mind enjoying my life. I wouldn't mind not having to feel like I'm going to save the world with every single decision that I make.
Starting point is 00:19:34 I'm not going to feel like I have to fight every human that doesn't agree with me every single day of my life. I have not gotten invested in politics yet. Will I someday? Maybe. I have no idea. Sounds miserable. Yeah. Sounds miserable. I've been very fortunate to meet a lot of people that span both direct, very far both directions. And both those people are terrible to be around right now.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Because they both want to just fucking change the world in their direction. It's like, okay, cool. Can we just have a good time here? Yeah, but have you thought, have you heard about, and it's like, I haven't heard. That is crazy. I'm sure the other people have an excuse there for whatever reason. No, they don't. They're wrong. Okay. I agree with you completely. Then you go to the other side, complete opposite. These two used to be friends, complete opposite somehow. I've seen a lot of the same world have no chance of changing their concept or idea. So what is even the fucking purpose of getting in there?
Starting point is 00:20:26 Isn't that what you're supposed to do is kind of come to the best resolutions, what you thought it was. So I stay the fuck out. I stay as far as I can just for the sake of my own happiness, I think. I think that is something that's okay. And I don't think everybody should speak on something. Like if you don't know enough, I don't think you should speak. What I do know, I thought, was a fundamental thing of politics.
Starting point is 00:20:48 I thought you had to speak. How come every politician that I see speak that ends up in my timeline, normally they've done something absolutely terrible, can't fucking talk. Isn't that like a pretty high part of being a politician? Isn't that kind of what it is? Nobody can talk anymore, and they're all
Starting point is 00:21:04 doing the power, they're all in power. What are you guys doing over there in the fucking politics world? I've been over here in sports just trying to do our thing, and we got our own issues, okay? We got a lot to figure out. You should see what some of these refs are calling. That's bad. There was an autograph on them as well.
Starting point is 00:21:17 It was a phone number for a goal. I mean, we got a lot of shit to figure out as well. We are not perfect, but you politics people need to figure it the fuck out, okay? You guys have a lot more power than I got that we got on this particular stage and i would like to see you know a little better options i think come ballot box not that it matters because my vote is an uninformed vote mostly but this is there has to be better yeah let's not i mean let's not act like you know that 90 percent of 98 percent of people fucking voting have an uninformed vote. And how can you blame him when the two options are a celebrity TV doctor and a fucking...
Starting point is 00:21:50 Who you didn't even know was from the fucking state and might not be from the state. Exactly. He's from Cleveland. There you go. From Cleveland? He's from Cleveland. No offense, Cleveland. No offense, Cleveland.
Starting point is 00:22:00 No offense. And the other guy's a bootleg version of Bill Goldberg. Looks like fucking a poor man's Bill Goldberg, who I'm not sure if he used to be in Hell's Angels. I mean, look. No offense. And the other guy's a bootleg version of Bill Goldberg. Looks like fucking a poor man's Bill Goldberg, who I'm not sure if he used to be in Hell's Angels. I mean, look at that guy. That's Bill Goldberg if everything went wrong. That is Braddock. That's a dog.
Starting point is 00:22:14 He is a dog. The ultimate win-win situation for Pennsylvania. You get Dr. Oz or you get the next contender against Aziz in Monday Night Raw. Why don't you want that? Commander? Yeah, thank you. Commander Aziz. Where the fuck has Commander Aziz been? That Raw. Why don't you want that? Commander? Yeah, thank you. Commander Aziz.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Where the fuck has Commander Aziz been? That's a whole other... That's a whole other category of, you know, press and media and everything as well. Is Aziz running too? Let's get Aziz in the race. I would vote for Commander Aziz in anything. I don't think he's from America,
Starting point is 00:22:42 so I'm not sure if he... I don't know what the rules are. I'd vote for Ezekiel. Anyways, you guys brought that up on purpose because it just so happened that I learned of these humans in anything. I don't think he's from America, so I'm not sure if he... I don't know what the rules are. Anyways, you guys brought that up on purpose because it just so happened I learned of these humans, and then last night they have their fucking Super Bowl, these two? I had no idea. I had no idea. You think I fucking know?
Starting point is 00:22:56 I thought AQ and that guy... You are the one that brought it up. I can't remember how it got brought up. AQ and him were arm wrestling at the Penn State game. Anyways, I did see some videos from that last night. And I do fear that we're in for another round of sorry candidates in politics. All I know.
Starting point is 00:23:18 I think that's what we would do if we covered more politics. Sorry ass candidates in politics. I don't know if there's any good things about anybody that's ever run for politics, which leads to the thing, why would anybody do it? So anybody that's actually worth a fuck probably would never want to get into it because your life gets ruined and you can make no money. There it is. So we're just basically set up for nobody ever good to ever do anything
Starting point is 00:23:38 that is in a position of power in our country. I might run. That's comforting. Did we just figure out politics? I think they may. Tony, you might run. I might run. I'm comforting. Did we just figure out politics? I think they may. Tony, you might run? I might run. I'm going to fix the roads
Starting point is 00:23:46 and burn the fucking mass, okay? Get those palms greased. Oh, you're talking about like back-end payments because you're never paying for anything ever again, right? Right. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:23:55 No taxes. You get Secret Service. This is a good time for us to figure out politics. Is that opposite Jabba? What's that, that one? That's a joke. Jabba and that camera, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:04 They've got eyes on each other. They've had beef ever since Jabba moved in here, too. This one, that one? That's a joke. Jabba and that camera, yeah, got eyes on each other. They've had beef ever since Jabba moved in here, too. This one, you know, much more mobile. This one kind of just stands in the pocket. That's right. You know what I mean? Jabba hits from all sides. Jabba goes out every once in a while.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Yeah, this one struggles. It goes black every once in a while. This one? Yeah. I told you, it's been pissed ever since Jabba came in. As soon as Jabba moves, that one turns. Fuck it, I'm not working anymore. Anyways, that's while. This one? Yeah. I told you, it's been pissed ever since Java came out. Java moves. Fuck it. I'm not working anymore. Anyways, that's politics.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Just like Java and that camera. I feel like we just did it, didn't we? Got to the bottom of it. All right, I've been told that we have a tech fix. Oh, really? So let's do that and then we'll have Sham Sharani on the other side. I appreciate your take on Aaron.
Starting point is 00:24:45 You? Yeah, very. It's real. I appreciate your take on Aaron. You? Yeah, very. It's real. It's an interesting situation, too. It is. I think they figured it out. They can still turn it around. Yeah, I think they did. You watching any tape there?
Starting point is 00:24:54 Whose fault is it? I mean, it's hard. You know, it's hard. Even watching tape, you don't know what's going on in the meeting room. He's saying it's 20, but 20%. That's a lot. That's a whole lot. You go through a game, you know, maybe two.
Starting point is 00:25:08 Everybody's going to make mistakes, but maybe like two M.E.s, you know, maybe three. But if you're fucking up one out of every five plays. M.A. is a missed assignment, right? Yeah, mental error, M.E., and then M.A., missed assignment. So, like, mental error is just kind of fuck up. Missed assignment is also something? Are they interchangeable? Basically depends on the coaching staff.
Starting point is 00:25:28 So, if you – and it's different with offensive defense, too. So, if I get into my drop, let's say I don't get enough depth or I don't – you know, I react to something I'm not supposed to, that would be more of a missed assignment. But if I blitz instead of dropping into a fucking half, that's a mental error. Yeah, but as long as you blitz full speed, because some coaches are fine with mental errors, okay? High school football, for sure.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Well, that's what he said. That's what he said. Go fast, yeah. Go fast. If you're going to do it wrong, do it wrong fast. That's a special teams mission. I don't know about defense, though. Special teams is like, hey, if you're going to go to the complete wrong gap.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Do it hard. You better fucking go yeah better go full speed well that's what he said they're having at least one on every fucking possession that's like that's that's an issue and that's why the offense is so bad and again you know people are ripping him like he he didn't call out anyone specifically so hopefully that means everyone in there knows like hey you know gotta get my shit together they've had 10 drops over the last two weeks like you're not gonna win very many games with that and i don't think he's talking about the drops no yeah right and that's why i asked him guys
Starting point is 00:26:31 lining up in the wrong spots i mean you're dropping the ball if you're huge you got velite you got two jobs get open and catch the ball if you're a receiver but i asked him do you have a lack of confidence with like some people and i would assume if you're the quarterback and you have to know what everybody's going to do and there's this one particular guy just not doing what he's supposed to do so now you question the other route in that concept as well it's like all right well it's supposed to happen this supposed to and this is just going off of what aaron said yesterday i'm not fucking this is not me going to bat i'm just trying to figure out you can see how that could potentially affect how he is even subconsciously as a whole yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:27:08 third and as the play yeah in the floor gets buried a lot but what if his play concept is actually so well what his play concept is actually something but for some ever now that we're learning a little bit more about like the finer details for whatever reason if one person fucks up the whole play concept could potentially be completely backwards, right? Because this person might be blocking a person when really they run the wrong route. It's week fucking eight. Why is that already happening?
Starting point is 00:27:33 Why is that still happening for them? That's odd, especially with a coach and a quarterback that's been in place for, what, four years now, three years? Yeah, this is their fourth year together. Yeah, if it's like a first-year type thing, like I was watching the Steelers film, and it was one play where the right guard went out, and he was like almost in a screenplay and just got sacked.
Starting point is 00:27:52 And everybody else was doing something else. Yeah, that was a tough one. Jesus. Yeah, so I mean. What the fuck's going on in Pittsburgh, dude? Well, there's a high school quarterback's coach trying to be an offensive I thought he was a high school coach. High school head coach, Tony. Show a little respect. No, I don't know. I don't want to be an offensive coordinator. I thought he was a high school coach. High school head coach, Tony.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Show a little respect. No, I don't know. I don't want to give that much respect. Oh, so you say you'd be disrespecting high school football if you gave him a head coach and roll immediately with what he's proven as the best coach to us. Any level of football, to be honest with you. Yeah, because that's the head.
Starting point is 00:28:18 You've got to earn that. Yeah, work your way up. You run the town. Who's smoking hot all the time with insider information. Oh, yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, the insider for the Association of the National Basketball, who has won the last 10 trade deadlines, the last 40 drafts, the man who knows everything about everything in the NBA,
Starting point is 00:28:42 just signed a deal with FanDuel to be on FanDuel TV. Whoa. From the Athletic in the Stadium, ladies and gentlemen deal with FanDuel to be on FanDuel TV. From the Athletic in the Stadium, ladies and gentlemen, Shams Rawley. Shams! How are you, Shams? Pat, I got three things. So, first of all, you got a three-piece suit on on national TV nowadays. We got to talk about that.
Starting point is 00:29:00 And then you got ad reads. You got a new studio. I don't know, man. I'm happy to sign the FanDuel deal, but I'm just trying to follow your lead. Shams, Shams, you've always had ad reads, Shams. SeatGeek has been sponsoring us for five years. Now you bring me in. When you usually bring me in, it's usually clean. Now you got ad reads.
Starting point is 00:29:14 You got ad reads more frequently. That means more money. Shams, Shams, let me tell you about. Well, actually, a lot less frequent ad reads now because we got one particular deal that let us go, nah, we're not doing that go we're not doing that anymore that deal is from the same company that made the right decision and signed your fucking legendaries
Starting point is 00:29:35 we are so happy we have you on our TV in the mornings it's fucking amazing we love it I appreciate you guys and yeah run it back new nba show uh 10 a.m eastern time michelle beetle chandler parsons eddie gonzalez i think we have a good group of people i'm really excited at the way the show's been already two weeks in uh but i mean i'm i was just pumped with the deal to me it's really breaking barriers uh for the
Starting point is 00:30:04 industry so um yeah because you're the first insider right you're the first insider that has with the deal, to me, it's really breaking barriers for the industry. So I'm excited. Yeah, because you're the first insider, right? You're the first insider that has any type of deal with a casino or a sports book or anything like that. And this is going to be very normal, like, one year from now. I think maybe two years from now, it's going to be just considered a thing because I don't think you're going to be affecting and talking to the odds makers. considered a thing because I don't think you're going to be affecting and talking to the odds makers but alongside your announcement a heads up on what you could potentially profit from that on
Starting point is 00:30:30 is not a bad play to have in the insider in the future in the sports media world as we go forward it's good for the fan it's good for the consumer and it's good for the gumbler yeah it's great it's great for the gumbler and let's start talking about some news that Shams Sharania has that nobody else has. And by the way, very cool that the NBA is the first league that has that. I mean, it's like all of it is very cool, Shams. And you should celebrate that. Congrats, Shams. We're happy for you.
Starting point is 00:30:56 A lot of hard work went into that, Shams. You've been grinding a long-ass time. And I'm not saying that you're now all the way at the top. You've been here for a long time whenever it comes to performance. But I think more people are getting to learn about you. More business people are getting to learn about you. So the future is going to be incredibly bright for Sean Sharani. Let's talk about some teams that futures might be bright or pockets that might be future bright.
Starting point is 00:31:17 Are they paying Kyrie Irving back his $30 million or whatever with that New York Supreme Court ruling where back pay is due for anybody that lost their job because of their vaccination status in the state of New York? Is Kyrie Irving about to get a massive check or how is this going to get handled? Do you think, Sean? This is a big deal. $20 million is how much last year Kyrie Irving didn't get for missing that time with the vaccine mandate. I mean, that's how much money he was, for half of the home games that he had to sit out. So it's a lot. And so he obviously spent a lot of time away from the team as well because of the vaccine mandate.
Starting point is 00:31:59 But yeah, I mean, it's, I don't think that there'll be a situation where he's going to get that money back because technically it's the private equity or the private entity aspect of it as far as the Mets. So I don't see that being the case. But listen, this ruling literally just came out the other day. And so I'm sure him and his people or his people are at least going to be checking in on what happens here because he did forfeit a good chunk of money last season i'd say what does it say in the bigger
Starting point is 00:32:29 picture of the conversation for everybody else as well we shall see i mean hey that's going to get interesting that's what kairi irving i mean that that's part of the reason why he ended up sitting right is because he felt like this was a bigger stand than just uh himself and he wanted to uh take a stand for everyone else that lost their jobs as well. And there were a lot of people in New York City that did. And now with this ruling are apparently going to be brought back and going to get their payback. So I think, listen, I guess what Kyrie Irving was looking at last season,
Starting point is 00:32:59 some of it's coming back a year later. Oh, the world is such an interesting place. I'm excited to see how this all unfolds. We're thankful that you're telling us the news from the association. Let's talk about Clay getting ejected last night. Are they a dirty team? We got guys on our team punching teammates right in the face out of nowhere. Then they're getting deals.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Clay's getting ejected in fucking games because he's going to get all through a ref. What's going on with Golden State? Is there a lot of drama? Are they going to be a team this year? Are they going to figure it out, you think? I think they're going to figure it out. I think what happened last night, Clay Thompson talking that ish, he deserves to talk it.
Starting point is 00:33:34 They've got four rings. You saw Draymond Green was using the number four a lot. Devin Booker said after the game, that's literally all the shit that they were talking about. They were saying, we got four rings, and they were rubbing in their face so i think for for uh for the warriors i'm not as concerned about them but what i'm concerned about with clay thompson is what steve kerr said after the game is his minutes restriction right now because he missed some time during training camp jermon green missed time during training camp for the punch with jordan
Starting point is 00:34:02 pool and and he took some time away so those guys are still getting into game shape, which is going to be an issue that this team is going to have to deal with. So once Clay Thompson is past being in minutes restriction, I expect him to be back in form because the Clay Thompson we see right now isn't what we know of, even last year when he was coming off ACL injury. Did I see Andre Iguodala crushing Pepper or something like that one of the opening night on ring night or whatever with LeBron and Draymond. Did anything ever come of that?
Starting point is 00:34:30 I don't think I've paid attention. He was doing the pepper. I think he was salty. Cherry and butter. He's like, oh, I'm salty, I think is what he was doing. Yeah. I don't remember. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Did you see what we're talking about? It was on the bench. It was right here. Draymond and LeBron were right here. One of those. Staff was like right there. I think he was stirring the pot a It was right here. Draymond and LeBron were right here. One of those. Steph was like right there. I think he was stirring the pot a little bit. He was stirring the pot a little bit.
Starting point is 00:34:52 I think that's what it was. He was stirring the pot. But I haven't heard any fallout from that. But Draymond Green, Andre Goodell, they played with each other for, what, nine years now? So I'm sure they've had their run-ins. All right, and on the flip side of that, Dapup, that caused the salty stir of the pot. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Blosky. Yep. LeBron, that team stinks. He's saying, you know, Aaron comes on the show on Tuesdays, and he says some things about, you know, we've got to simplify the offense. Who's that a shot at? Is that at the quarterback or is that at the coach? Is that at his teammates?
Starting point is 00:35:29 Is it not a shot at all? Is that just his thoughts on how the offense needs to be run? And then yesterday he talks about, you know, people that are making mistakes shouldn't be playing. Is that a shot at the coaches for deciding who's playing? Is that a shot at his teammates who are making the mistakes? Or is that just a statement of fact, what he's saying? LeBron James says, we can't shoot a penny in the fucking ocean.
Starting point is 00:35:47 We got no lasers out here. Our team stinks. Are the Lakers dead dead? And how does that team recover from anything that's happening? And we're very early in the season. They got like no hope, right, in a lot of people's eyes, and it sounds like in LeBron's eyes as well. What is going on with the Lakers?
Starting point is 00:36:02 Yeah, so tonight they play in Denver. It's going to be a big game. I mean, i don't know how many games in october that we have that are this meaningful but they're oh and three right now if they win and russell westbrook is not expected to play tonight he's got a hamstring soreness that he dealt with in preseason and now he's going to sit out tonight so uh if they if they win i very, very curious to see how they handle and how Russell Westbrook handles his situation moving forward because he has started, but he's only averaging 10 points a game. He's shooting less than 30% from the field, less than 10% from three-point range.
Starting point is 00:36:36 So he has not gotten off to a good shooting start. He is playing great defense to me, but there's a lot offensively there that's missing. And as a team, the Lakers are shooting just 21%. What LeBron was saying is they need shooting in the worst way, but there's not really a trade coming on the horizon. They're going to have to be in their
Starting point is 00:36:57 sorrows for a little bit. This is the team that they have. They're going to have to deal with it. Right now, I'm sure LeBron is trying to search for answers, and that is going to go on tonight. But if they win tonight, I'm very, very curious. Does Russell Westbrook come back on Friday? Does he come off the bench? Does he just stop?
Starting point is 00:37:14 Does he just stay away from the team? Does he just not play? Russell Wilson in the NFL, I'm curious what you guys have heard or seen from Russell Wilson, but he hadn't played well this season, and then he takes some time off. I assume it was a real injury. Our guy Ian Rapcourt would know, but just very curious timing when these guys – Sean, what are you? Shams.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Shams, you're the basketball association guy. You're coming over in National Football League. I'm asking you. I'm asking – Pat, I need information. We need intel right now. You're sure the guy with Wolverine blood was really injured. That's why he missed the game. He wasn't because how bad he was playing and how everybody was better.
Starting point is 00:37:54 That's what Shams just said. Shams, is that what you just said? No, no, no. I didn't say that. I was just asking. I was asking a question. The leading question. Very leading.
Starting point is 00:38:04 I want to let you know, Shams, I hadn't even thought of that about Mr. Unlimited. Hadn't even thought about that until you just mentioned it, but that is a fascinating thought. I don't know how often it happens in the league. Probably happens towards the end of the year whenever teams are not in and guys have made it. So maybe week seven, Russell.
Starting point is 00:38:23 I mean, that just fucked me up. What if that is what Russell Wilson was doing because of all the bad puck? I don't even – I honestly don't. I'm just – You've said enough. You've said enough. Maybe in the NBA there's load management. So those things maybe tend to happen more.
Starting point is 00:38:37 You're right. In the NFL there's only, what, 16, 17 games? So it's a little less likely. 17, welcome to 2022. Just an idea. The whole thought, though, that that does happen in the nba we go back to james harden right when he was at the nets he had that hamstring allegedly and then he ends up oh that that was we we talked about that one at length i think we all knew what that was about right like he first of all he wasn't playing well
Starting point is 00:38:59 second of all he was trying to get traded and he ended up getting traded and this is a you, you know, we don't know what the Lakers teammates are thinking, or I guess the NFL, the Broncos teammates, but the Nets locker room definitely believed that James Harden had quit on them because he wanted to be in Philadelphia, and he got his wish. What happened to Russell Westbrook? What happened to him? Because Brody, right? I remember Brody.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Triple-double. Oklahoma, he was awesome. I mean, it was incredible. I still think that he's a very – I think he has the ability to be a very impactful player in the NBA. Now, the role, I think that's what other teams around the league are keeping an eye on because if Russell Westbrook does ever become – if he does end up getting traded, there are a few teams that the Lakers are still going to be monitoring. San Antonio with Josh Richardson,
Starting point is 00:39:46 Indiana with Miles Turner and Buddy Heald, Charlotte with Terry Rozier. There are a few different scenarios the Lakers are going to keep tabs on. So if Russell Westbrook ends up at those teams, gets waived, all these, you know, the rest of the league is going to be keeping an eye on Russell Westbrook because of his talent
Starting point is 00:40:01 and seeing if there's a fit there from a roster standpoint, a role standpoint. And so it's going to be on whatever other team or for the Lakers right now to figure out what role Russell Westbrook is suited best in. Is it starting? Is it coming off the bench? Is it being the leader of the second unit? And I think that's what there's clearly been the divide in terms of what, you know, Russell Westbrook even came out after one of the early regular season games the other night and said he feels like him coming off the bench attributed
Starting point is 00:40:30 with the hamstring injury right and so like it's it's a different mode when you have to come off the bench it's a different level of preparation and uh getting your body right it has to be a pretty different feeling too whenever you the team you mentioned i don't know enough about sacramento i think you said or yeah i think you said sacramento indiana though they get rid of miles turner buddy healed healed that would mean the pacers would be trying to not be good at basketball right that's what that would mean they already are too yeah i mean i mean so russell westbrook's getting traded to the team that people are not trying to be good right to get players for a team that's trying to be good.
Starting point is 00:41:06 I do want to say this, though, Pat. I don't think we can just blame Russell Westbrook for the Lakers' issues. I agree. I don't want to make this. I'm trying to figure out what the fuck happened to the guy. What happened to him? That's like an outsider. What the fuck happened to that guy? He was a dog.
Starting point is 00:41:19 I mean, he was awesome to watch. Shit talked. I mean, he was pounding people. It wasn't always russ was very very very very very very very athletic and you know people get old whoa he's still athletic i mean even even dating back to last year i mean there have been some finishing issues i mean he's not shooting the ball well for the field so offensively he he's i mean just percentages wise he's not that that same guy that he's been in years past.
Starting point is 00:41:46 But I still think when you watch him play, the defensive energy that he's brought, even when he's not making shots offensively, you're still seeing the pop in his game from a defensive standpoint. Now you just have to figure out what role suits him best, what will allow the team to succeed better. Because the other night, that two-for-one shot that he you know how the lakers finished the game it was clearly an issue of course bad yeah of course i saw that stay ty your question for jean ferrano yes jean should
Starting point is 00:42:13 we worried about uh what's going on with zion we know in the past you know he gets a hangnail the fucking pelicans don't let him play for two three months Now he's got a hip back type of thing, and he's looked pretty damn good so far. Unreal. Yeah, about fucking time, but it's awesome that he's looked the way he has. But should we be worried about Zion's injury moving forward? It doesn't sound like it. Okay, let's go.
Starting point is 00:42:39 He actually wanted to play last night, like in terms of it, like it was his decision. Oh, same old story. This is what it's been, Sean. He really wanted to play last night in terms of it feels his decision. Here we go again. This is what it's been, Sean. Pat, Pat, Pat, this is the NBA. It's an 82-game season. It's early.
Starting point is 00:42:54 It's really early in the year. Herb Jones, another teammate of his, he was also sat last night because I think the Pelicans right now want to be concerned. They still won the game. I think they're 3-1 going into this weekend. So there's not a great level of concern. There is optimism that he's going to be back as soon as this weekend, from what I'm hearing. So the injury was a posterior hip contusion.
Starting point is 00:43:15 I don't know. I saw some Twitter doctors. Is that a butt contusion, Pat? Is that what that is? I think it's probably top of your butt. He landed. He took a big bump. It was a nasty fall. He took a big bump.
Starting point is 00:43:27 It was a nasty fall. It wasn't really flat. I'm happy he didn't get knocked out. That could have been one of those bang-bang things, which is never good. But this is, the story of last year was he wanted to play, they wouldn't play him, right? Well, last year's a little different because he was coming off a fractured foot. I mean,
Starting point is 00:43:43 he wasn't in the shape that he's in now. He was denting first. You can see the shape that he's in now. I think there was a before and after. I don't know if we can pull it up. There was like a before and after picture last year's media day and this year's media day. He looks like a different type of dude. He even said he's in the best shape of his life and his career.
Starting point is 00:44:02 So I do think that being in complete basketball shape, a guy like Zion, he's a unicorn in a lot of ways. When you think about Chet Holmgren, Zion, like those guys, they have to pay even more particular interest in their bodies because if their bodies are in peak shape, their games are going to be exactly what we're seeing now from Zion, which is just revolutionary. So we just need to see him hopefully get back on the floor.
Starting point is 00:44:26 I do think Friday in Phoenix, Sunday against the Clippers in L.A., both of those games are potential return games. Hey, let's go, Zion. Here we go, Zion. He just released some new shoes too, I believe they are. Let's go. Fire Flames. Darius, your question for Shams.
Starting point is 00:44:40 Sharania. I'm going to stick with star players and injuries. Kawhi Leonard. I feel like Kawhi's been getting a pass for a while now. Just missed another game last night. Will we ever get to a point where we see Kawhi on the court night in and night out again? I mean, that was the hope. I think the Clippers went into the year and they're playing for the playoffs, right? They're playing for a championship. And so I do give them the benefit of that doubt. And I do have to give Kawhi Leonard the benefit of the doubt because in 2019, when he was in Toronto,
Starting point is 00:45:07 they kind of did similar behavior as far as load management, sitting him on the back to backs. And he won the championship. So there was some of that in San Antonio as well. I think that he, especially at this point in his career, he's taking an increasing amount of interest in his body, making sure that he's 100% when it matters most because what we've seen though at least last year especially the year that he tore the ACL he was playing more and then he suffers that torn ACL in the playoffs so uh I think it's just about being precautious and making sure that they're taking all the measures
Starting point is 00:45:38 to ensure that he's 100% when it matters like no like no. Yeah, it sure sounds. Sounds like that is the case. Not in the – I mean, there's a regular season moment where he's playing nightly. I mean, maybe it's the second half. But I do think they want to be able to ramp him up as the year goes on. I heard somebody on the television this morning get up, I think, said, you know, when people buy the tickets, they're hoping to see his stars. Yeah, right. But the stars aren't playing, and then it's not announced
Starting point is 00:46:10 until the very end of it. It sounds like a fucking you problem. I think that is probably what everybody in the NBA is saying. They're never going to be able to change that, right? You can't change that. I know Adam Silver is probably going to have to address this a lot about it because the fans are not going to be happy when they buy. For instance, LeBron sat one game whenever he came and played against the Pacers.
Starting point is 00:46:28 That place was filled up. That was the only night it was filled up of that month because LeBron was coming to town. He doesn't play. You heard everybody in Indiana. Oh, fuck LeBron. It's like, well, you just bought a ticket because you want to see how good he is. But so it's kind of tough. I think the league has tried.
Starting point is 00:46:43 You know, I think if it's blatant, you'll see the league come down with fines. And they've done that in the past. The Clippers have gotten fined in the past when they blatantly arrested guys. San Antonio, you know, I think was where, you know, Greg Popovich was really the one that started with this. I can see how fans would be pissed. Tim Duncan. I don't know how you fix it.
Starting point is 00:47:00 I don't know how you fix it. Are we going to shorten the season? It was an easier fix for me. It would do it. Start on Christmas. Yeah, why don't you guys just start after we going to shorten the season? Start on Christmas. Why don't you guys just start after Christmas because Christmas is the NFL's day. Sorry about it. Sorry about it, association. We just decided.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Jesus came into the stable thing. We're playing football. That's right. Connor has a question for you. Sean, we'll let you go. We know you're staying long. We appreciate it. Sean, are teams going to start tanking for Victor Wambayana, or are they just going to try and do their best?
Starting point is 00:47:30 It's Wambam-yama. Will teams start tanking for Victor Wambam-yama? Victor Wambam-yama. Wambam-yama? Not right now. Not right now. The Spurs are playing well. They were a team that a lot of people thought was going that route utah got off
Starting point is 00:47:47 to an amazing start this year so those two teams i think there's a belief that they'll trickle back down to you know to earth um but i think that will probably take shape like it always does it's not like tanking is a new thing there's teams every year there's it's the unfortunate part of it that there are a couple teams that are clearly playing for the future. So I think that sorts itself out always in the second half of the season. Alright, well we appreciate you for joining us. Can't wait for you to keep us updated. We're going to watch you
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Starting point is 00:48:41 Joining us live from Manatee in Ohio is a man who's a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup champion, an NBA pundit, a video game shitster, a survivor of COVID. What? The real one? The ever vaccinated A.J. Haas. Hey!
Starting point is 00:48:59 Hey! What's going on, A.J.? Good to be here. How's the program going so far? Program today has been really... I saw some of Shams. He's good. I feel like we broke some news in there.
Starting point is 00:49:11 Obviously, I didn't know it was breaking news at the time, so I didn't react to it. I know sold it, and I assume it will be taken as pretty large news. I found that out via a tweet from Mitt. Oh, Ross being hurt is big news. That's breaking news. And I guess we just found that out. And is he going to sit out games because he's not hurt? And did you hear Shams allude to that?
Starting point is 00:49:27 I didn't even think of that with the Wolverine blood, Mr. Unlimited. Shams kind of alluded to the fact that maybe Russell Wilson, because he's playing bad, and because the team isn't good, and because the narrative around him isn't as positive as it once was, that maybe he wasn't hurt
Starting point is 00:49:44 and he just skipped a game whoa whoa aj just said you think you think russ is going to set out a game i mean maybe the team forced him to set out because to protect him from himself i don't think russ volunteered to sit out i don't think so either but sean's put that out there as if sean's like oh you guys don't think like on the way there he is not taking himself out of the game okay so let's talk about the new breaking news on the trip to London because the Denver Broncos are blessing the European community with the presence of Russell Wilson this weekend, 9.30 a.m. Eastern Standard Time, America kickoff.
Starting point is 00:50:20 Russell Wilson showed up to practice day with his Bose headphones on. Now, when we played in London, we were told to stay awake for the flight over there or stay awake for the day whenever we get over there so we can catch up to their time because we're going on Thursday or Friday or whatever. Russell Wilson on his flight to London did the exact opposite of that. Russell Wilson, while everybody else was sleeping, was getting a four-hour workout in. Not only did he work out for four hours, but just to think about in the middle of an NFL season
Starting point is 00:50:48 is fucking hilarious. Four hours is longer than the rocks working out. We see what the rock looks like. But four of the eight hours, he was getting calisthenics, recovery, and a workout in, including doing high knees in the aisle while the rest of his teammates slept. AJ, if you're in the Denver Broncos playing, flying to London, and you see this quarterback
Starting point is 00:51:09 do this one week removed from saying he's got Wolverine blood, and then the video of him saying Mr. Unlimited resurfaces on the internet again, and then you guys are losing, how are you taking the calisthenics at 40,000 feet, AJ Hawk? What you said right there at the end, you said, and you guys are losing. If you're winning, he can do whatever he wants. He can do an eight-hour workout while guys are sleeping, and they're going to be fine. But if you're not winning, that's when these things start to be questioned a little bit. Guys might be, oh, I'm going to fake sleep, might slide that left leg out in the aisle
Starting point is 00:51:40 and see if I can trip somebody. I can see that happening in a situation like this. But it's not bad. Like, you should in long flights, especially if you're going to play a game. You should get up and walk around and move, get the blood circulating, don't let it pool. That's what we talk about, those compression tights they would give out to people they don't want it to whatever for recovery.
Starting point is 00:51:56 But how did this get out here? That's, I guess, my other question. How did this get out? There was a bunch of people on the fucking plane that said, wait till you hear this shit. That's probably what happened if I had to guess. Somebody who is 52nd on the roster, 51st on the roster, that just got signed a week ago playing special teams, flying over to London with the team, talking to a friend of theirs whenever they get to London.
Starting point is 00:52:20 You know, hey, what's it like? What's it like? Oh, London's cool. Hey, what's Russell Wilson like? Listen to this shit. It could literally come from anybody that's on that plane. Athletic trainer telling a friend, I've never seen anything like it. This motherfucker was doing high knees.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Steward it. People working there, like, on the plane, too. All you got to do is just tell one person. And as soon as you tell one person, the person that broke it, Zach Stevens, DNVR, I think he's probably pretty well connected around Denver. Somebody had a conversation with somebody. And who knows if it's 100% accurate. We'll assume some of it is.
Starting point is 00:52:47 Because once you hear that story, you can certainly cook. You play that phone game back in the day where you say something, and they say something, and they say something, and it comes all the way back, and it's like, how close was it to what it is? Let's assume there was a little bit of Mr. Unlimited's persona added into that when it was getting relayed to whoever was going to report his information.
Starting point is 00:53:08 So maybe he didn't do all that they're talking about, and maybe we'll hear more. But I certainly believe he fucking did something, and I certainly believe somebody was like, this fucking guy. Patrick Sertain, he's like best corner in the game right now? Top two, top three, yeah, for sure. I wonder if he's like best corner in the game right now? Top two, top three, yeah, for sure. I wonder if he's ever like, I'm happy that that isn't my style of being good at football.
Starting point is 00:53:30 You know what I mean? I wonder if a lot of people are thinking that. I need TMZ to get their hands on this video. Somebody. I need to see him with his headphones on with Team 3 behind him. Whistles. Charting them. Saying some prayers.
Starting point is 00:53:41 Whistles. Whistles on the plane. It would be awesome. And they would be literally like i just did it into the chair there exactly what happened if you're flying over the fucking atlantic ocean i think or maybe the northern atlantic ocean depending upon if the pilot at the time believes the world is round or not i think every pilot has since the beginning of time you know they choose to utilize the fact that it is round to make the flight shorter. But anyways, weather in the time of year that we're in, who knows what the wind could have been.
Starting point is 00:54:11 How many Gatorades did he knock over and different little snacks they have all over the plane, ice cream bars. Those guys got their head half asleep in the aisles and shit. Oh, album in the face. Team three hit some turbulence like, oh, this is a good core exercise. I need you to lock in. Maybe that's why it was four hours. It's funny because it's true a little bit.
Starting point is 00:54:29 Yeah, because you could get a great core exercise. I mean, you have great turbulence. You get a little like one of those luggage bag seat V seats. Stand on one leg in balance, yeah. Oh, we can get good core exercise. Maybe that's why it was four hours. They were battling all the different elements of the sky that they were flying over. Was he throwing a med ball over the top of the seats too to kill somebody?
Starting point is 00:54:49 Yeah, absolutely. Oh, my God. He's ready to roll, though. He's ready to roll. Is he? 100%. What color bands were they using? You think they had the green ones out there or maybe the purple ones?
Starting point is 00:54:59 What bands do you think he was using? Purple is lighter. Purple is a little bit lighter, so he's probably trying to get more high reps, I guess, on that slide front. He's not going green because of Seattle either. He won't use green. Yeah, but the green is the right. The green is like the perfectly. He maybe had some specialized orange ones made
Starting point is 00:55:15 for the crib. That's right. Imagine that football being flown. They definitely shot. He was definitely throwing this, whipping this around the cabin for sure. The dorsal fin? Yeah. Curving into the the cabin. For sure. The dorsal fin? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Curving into the cockpit. 42,000 square feet dorsal fin. Completion. How was that pressurized with that toss? The dorsal fin? Oh, gosh, yeah. Yeah, actually, you've got to go the opposite direction. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:55:39 Toilet flush in the other direction in Australia or whatever. I can't reiterate the fact, Moran. You've said it. You've said it. We've all said it. We've all said it. The people have said it. If they're winning, Russell Wilson could have took a tub of piss, his own piss, and put it on the plane
Starting point is 00:55:53 and sat in it. And everybody would have been like, people do some weird shit, man. Whatever it takes, man. Whatever you need to do to make yourself feel comfortable to play in London. We missed the Wolverine bud last week. You're losing, though. Whatever you need to do to make yourself feel comfortable to play in London. We missed the Wolverine Bud last week. You're losing, though.
Starting point is 00:56:07 All of this shit is like, that ain't working. It's not even an asshole. You better have fucking five touchdowns this weekend if you're going to do this dumbass shit. Like, that is, isn't it crazy? That is the world we definitely live in. But you choose to sign up for that, I guess, whenever you fucking play football in the NFL. But it's very real. I think there's been warning signs about all this,
Starting point is 00:56:25 about Russell Wilson for a long time. It was just always painted in a different narrative about him being the superhuman quarterback almost, is what it was kind of being painted. And now everybody's like, he's wearing a cape, dude? Get the fuck out of here. I think that's kind of what it is like, I feel like, for Russell Wilson. Do you agree, D-Book?
Starting point is 00:56:42 Absolutely. I mean, and then the commercials and stuff. I mean, that has made it worse. And then Subway releasing that commercial amongst all this stuff. Because he probably shot that six, seven months ago. And they released it in the midst of him, you know, absolutely stinking it up. But that's what comes with it, man. You think about
Starting point is 00:56:57 all the quarterbacks, the good ones, the bad ones, the great ones. They all kind of had different styles. And, you know, this is Mr. Unlimited's style. So I take the good with the bad. Just listening to people on a mic or on camera eat is tough. When they're eating and
Starting point is 00:57:13 speaking, it happens sometimes. And that's why Russ's one commercial is kind of awkward. That's why? What? Oh, that's the reason. I agree. Foxy, you're right. Brad Pitt stinks because of it.
Starting point is 00:57:30 Well, I think Brad Pitt's the only one that can actually do it. I hate it so much. I love Brad Pitt, but I hate what he does. Shut up, Fox. You're wrong. You're wrong. That's ridiculous. You're wrong. Oh, Red Wings stink too, by the way. Yeah, that's right. Oh, no! Oh, no! Oh, no. Oh, no. Chugga-chugga-chugga. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:57:47 Anyways, Russell Wilson needs to start winning games. That is what Team 3 is saying to Russell Wilson right now. This weekend. We are in the trenches, and this is not an actual comparison to military like somebody else potentially did that is the greatest of all time and got cooked for it. But Team 3 is sitting underneath, underneath you know some tents or something and everybody in the nfl world is just yeah every just every fuck every of them does he know does he understand like do you think he
Starting point is 00:58:19 thinks everyone's in on it or like what do you think it is he's continuing to cut his promos so i think he is kind of out of it i think they keep him pretty well guarded yeah is that a nice thing about russ and him as an individual he will jump on every single one of those grenades 14-3 okay see and that's what that would be his actual answer if he was told that thing that i just said and that's why russell wilson is still a superhero we got to treat him as such that's right but he can't be losing games as a superhero everybody's gonna mock him. We're also thinking that this report is in the negative light. Don't you think it's possible that Team 3 is like, wait until you hear this shit.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Absolutely. Russell's working out half the flight. Four hours. You think maybe this is one of the members of Team 3. Probably the whistleblower. Because there's somebody with a stopwatch. Somebody with a whistle. Yep.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Somebody with a mascot. Unprecedented for an NFL player to do on the flight over there. So if he lights it up, you're going to see everybody in between the aisles, high knees, karaoke, backpedal. I can't believe both teams haven't lost in every game in London because I've never heard of anybody doing this. No team deserves a win if they don't have a quarterback doing this. Fucking Bach would have played the entire game if he was doing this all the way over.
Starting point is 00:59:27 That's actually real, too. He would have played the whole game if he did that. Or if he just got up. Sounds like he slept the whole time. Who? Bach. He was told to sleep the whole time. That's what AJ said.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Like, hey, you do actually have to get up and move around a little bit. I don't think he got up and moved around at all. Actually, there's reports coming out now that Bach was actually the whole plane. Oh. Right down the aisle. From the cockpit all the way to the fucking big plane. Yeah, just all the way to the back. If someone's doing high knees on a plane,
Starting point is 00:59:54 I'm all, hey, asshole, sit the fuck down. You're going to make this thing fucking crash. Okay, so that's probably commercial airliner. A little looser, I think, on the chartered planes. You know, there's assholes on every plane, especially. But there's a lot of activity on these. Jumping around?
Starting point is 01:00:08 Yeah, Walmart planes. No, you'd be throwing. I'd be throwing the blankets and pillows in the aisle and stuff as you see him coming. But you're right. It is weird for that physically of an action. But if a plane crashes because Mr. Unlimited is fucking doing uptowns. Also, was he doing uptowns? Did we hear if he's doing up-downs?
Starting point is 01:00:27 Can you imagine if you would take a leak and you didn't know that he's in the back where they're preparing the food and he's just doing push-ups and up-downs and jumping jacks? Well, he's definitely in full pads too, right? Because he does everything in full pads. Full uniform.
Starting point is 01:00:39 There's no room. Full uniform. There's no room anywhere. It's probably, you know, young guys, it's a young team. Cat and camel for sure. You got an older team on there. Yo, sit the fuck down, bro.
Starting point is 01:00:48 Just the thought of. He had to be doing. He had to do some sit-ups. Because of the amount of room that he had. There's no room this game. He flew his own plane over. Or he could have been like, hey, you got to take eight seats out. Bottom eight guys on the roster got to be fucking stowaways.
Starting point is 01:01:03 Put them back with the luggage. I need my space to fucking do jumping jacks and push-ups. Need Russ to win this weekend. If he loses, actually. I'm rooting for you, Russ. I see a lot of Brett ripping. I'm rooting for you, Russ. So am I.
Starting point is 01:01:15 Come on. So am I. Here we go. If they don't win, they might be trading half their team. What's that, AJ? Everybody's rooting for Russ, aren't they? No. You tell me.
Starting point is 01:01:23 Not Satan. That's right. Satan ain't rooting for him. Who's Satan rooting for rust aren't they uh no tell me not satan that's right satan ain't satan's rooting for fucking brady and everyone who's eminem yeah what what's your problem what do you see that about new york aj did you see that yeah they're giving people money back or giving their jobs? What is it? Well, I think both.
Starting point is 01:01:48 So you're getting back pay for what you missed and you're getting your gig back? Is that if you're at a government job? I read one report on the internet. I do not know, but I think it said jobs back and back pay, I think, is what I read. But if that person who put that tweet together doesn't know, the fuck do I know? Nothing. But I think that's the case. That's a pretty big deal, I think, for the rest of the world, and for Kyrie. That was the
Starting point is 01:02:12 question for Shams. Kyrie's not going to get a single dollar. Because it is private entity, but I'd assume there's going to be people that are going to say, this guy lost fucking, actually $130 million or whatever it is because of the new deal that he couldn't sign because of it all.
Starting point is 01:02:28 You remember other teams' players that weren't vaccinated were allowed to play against the Brooklyn Nets in their stadium. Kyrie, not vaccinated, not allowed to play for the Brooklyn Nets because a Brooklyn entity would be paying him. He couldn't work for a Brooklyn entity in New York not vaccinated. But they allowed him to buy courtside seats and sit right there and watch the game.
Starting point is 01:02:52 It never made sense. It never made sense. It seems to make a lot of sense. You're right. Why don't you elaborate a little bit on why that makes sense. I wish I really could. But I was being a bit sarcastic there. None of it makes any sense, and it seems very irrational
Starting point is 01:03:08 when you talk about it. It does seem very irrational, and then, you know, at the time, he was the worst human of all time. Just like, I assume, all these other people that were not vaccinated, that lost their jobs and were not getting paid in the middle of a worldwide pandemic and the scariest time
Starting point is 01:03:23 in a lot of time. A lot of people lost a lot of jobs and everything because at the time what we were being told and this is coming from somebody hey all right right here got it had to get it because i was working with a company that basically if i didn't get it i wouldn't have been able to work with the people and it was a dream come true to work with people and i liked people there so i did it you know just to be a part of the team because i had to make the life a lot easier. This is just as somebody that is and had to all the people that didn't are going to be doing victory just because I happen to know some people. I know the world knows that I know at least one person that wasn't. I happen to know other people
Starting point is 01:04:00 that are in fact, this is going to be a large victory lap and i think there's going to be a lot of conversation and discourse about how everything went uh for those last two years on what we were being told what we were allowed to do what we weren't allowed to do what had to happen why you had to do it it just feels like this new york supreme court ruling might be a conversation start or maybe i guess in i'm just being too naive and dumb, maybe we never hear from it again. But I think there's going to be a lot of people pissed off about all of this, I think, for a long time going forward, AJ. Yeah, I mean, I still think with all of this,
Starting point is 01:04:34 like whatever people's vision was, whatever side you're on, they're sticking with it. I don't see a whole lot of people coming back from whatever side they may be if they're presented with all new information now. Yeah, you're right. We talked about politics. So I stay out of it. People don't change their mind.
Starting point is 01:04:48 People, you say, oh, Kyrie, now look at this. They say, hey, whatever, he's getting money, he's getting his job, whatever. People still have their views of Kyrie that they did before. I doubt people are changing. Oh, yeah, because then there's like 40 other things that you can bring in. Yeah, but remember Flat Earth?
Starting point is 01:05:03 Remember? Remember? Remember? Spurn and Sage. Yeah, but remember Flat Earth? Remember? Remember? Remember? Spurn and Sage. Yeah, but I think you started hating him mostly because you thought he was a selfish, entitled guy, which at the time you could have that conversation because if everybody else on your team is doing something,
Starting point is 01:05:18 they're counting on you to be on your team. I could see where those conversations happened. But then whenever people started attacking him for everything else, and then Aaron got fucking, I happened to be right alongside that ride. And those mentions were pretty negative about the type of person he is. Now this stuff starts coming out. There's going to be
Starting point is 01:05:35 a lot of victory laps. And I just think the world should prepare accordingly that we should have good conversation about everything, especially with what we learned about yesterday. AJ, we learned about the Dr. Oz thing yesterday. I did. I don't know. You probably knew, I assume.
Starting point is 01:05:48 Of course. I had no idea, but I know they had a debate, though, right? Okay. So I saw your eyes light up whenever you got to bring this up. I just learned of these two humans doing what they're doing just yesterday, if you do recall. Dr. Oz is about to be a member of government representing the state of Pennsylvania. I'm from Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania, big state.
Starting point is 01:06:06 Not saying I know everybody from Pennsylvania. Had no fucking idea Dr. Oz was from Pennsylvania. There's people saying he's from Cleveland. Okay. Didn't know that's how government worked. Okay. He's running for a position. Had no idea.
Starting point is 01:06:17 That was a, that was a what? And then I learned he's running against a guy from Braddock. And if you're from the Pittsburgh area, you know Braddock completely. You know everything about Braddock. Braddock is that you've got to be a dog to make it out of Braddock. You have to be. It is a hard-nosed place. What is it?
Starting point is 01:06:37 Former Steel area. Then Steel Mill shuts down. And then, you know, it's like. Issue Steel. Good football program. It's a. Hey, you got to be. I you know it's like issue still yeah good football program it's uh hey you gotta be i mean it's if if i per yesterday i was like god damn if a guy from braddock is about to be in the fucking government like okay here we go like i was like almost pumped like
Starting point is 01:06:56 okay we got a guy from braddock in there how'd it go well that's the thing i just learned of his existence and dr osby and in the government. And then last night they had their Super Bowl, and I heard. Is this a big race? It did not go great. Is this a big race just because Pennsylvania is a sweet fucking state? I think so, yeah. It's a swing state. No, it's a sweet fucking state.
Starting point is 01:07:14 Sweet state. Oh, swing is what? Iowa is the caucus. That's a swing state. They're saying not anymore. No, Iowa. That's a big swing state. Because of Kirk's dogs and his kid.
Starting point is 01:07:22 It's a big deal because Dr. Oz is a celebrity. Oh, okay. Well, I'm sure there's other things that make it a big deal. Because of Kirk's dogs and his kid. It's a big deal because Dr. Oz is a celebrity. Oh, okay. Well, I'm sure there's other things that make it a big deal. And Fetterman. Celebrity, too? Yeah, a lot of editorial college votes. Yeah, look at him. He's a fucking dog, I think.
Starting point is 01:07:33 Yes. If he was going to be in the government, I was going to be very surprised, which is why yesterday I was so surprised. And then I thought I was set up, AJ, by you and Tone and everybody because that thing happened last night. I just learned of this human's existence. Me too. And then hours later, this dude is trending number one on all the platforms that I look at.
Starting point is 01:07:50 I'm like, holy fuck. You know how we normally do. Why is the world like this? We normally do the draft spectacular. I think there's a big election coming up. We should do a Tuesday night. On the Piero too? I can get on the map.
Starting point is 01:08:02 Call Kornacki. Call Kornacki. Kornacki's going to be busy. Remember, that's a map doer. We should break down the midterms. I can get on the map. Call Kornacki. Call Kornacki. Kornacki's going to be busy. Remember, that's a map. True. We should break down the midterms. Is he still around? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:09 Is he still around? I'm all in on that. Are they using him for Sunday night football at all? Draft night? Yeah. Election night's spectacular. I like it. I'm not doing it.
Starting point is 01:08:19 It's a political show, right? Yeah. They only want to do a full speech about how I don't fucking know how anybody does the politics world, why you would want to do it, how you want to do it. It is it is a no win situation. You're getting into exhausting. Exactly. That's why I can only pay attention to it. And then yesterday I'm told to somebody and then they're the most important person in politics. All of a sudden, like four hours later, I need to stay out of that world. Need to continue to stay out of the world. Let's talk about our world. OK, let's talk about football. Need to continue to stay out of the world.
Starting point is 01:08:43 Let's talk about our world, okay? Let's talk about football. What? Let's talk about ART. What? Let's talk about the reaction to what your best friend, Aaron Rodgers, said to us yesterday. The entire sports media was chit-chatting about what Aaron was chit-chatting about yesterday. And although he didn't say any names or call people out directly, he made some statements that people took differently. Some people thought he was burying his fucking teammates.
Starting point is 01:09:04 Some people thought he was burying his fucking teammates. Some people thought he was burying the fucking head coach. Some people thought everything he said yesterday was kind of a subliminal shot at somebody. Is that how you viewed what he said yesterday? Did you expect that? And do you think that the Packers are going to be able to turn it around after listening to Aaron chit-chat about the team and where they're at yesterday? I sure hope they can turn it around. And that's why I made the joke after he got off
Starting point is 01:09:26 when he seemed to get a bit snippy with me. Like, good, he's got that killer mentality still. He's got that energy, that emotion still when it comes to football. So I look forward to their Sunday night football game against the Buffalo Bills. But, no, I didn't take it as he's taking a shot at a coach or certain players specifically. And then he did come back and say like how hey matt and the guys like they put an awesome plan like every he would always come back and say like how
Starting point is 01:09:48 great the relationship is and everything but i don't know exactly i never i didn't take it as him calling like people out specifically really but i felt like i don't know he's trying to trying to get the boys going somehow i think so too and he's done this a couple times where he's like a coach speaking like it's his press conference speaking to the entire team. And I think the entire team listens. You know, I think the entire team listens. I think all the coaches listen too. I bet you Rich Passaccia had no idea that he was ever going to experience a Tuesday internet show until he got to Green Bay when all the coaches are like, all right, well, here we go. Let's see how this, I think that happens.
Starting point is 01:10:25 That might be a little bit self-centered and egotistical of me thinking about this show. But I feel like it has become like Aaron's way of saying exactly how he feels. And if you're trying to work alongside Aaron, the quarterback, you'd probably want to hear how he's feeling about how things are going. Probably prepare you a little bit better for what's going to happen on Wednesday when you go into the meetings, what's thinking like that. That's why I'm saying that just as thinking that they listen. But he does, I think, try to get some messages across.
Starting point is 01:10:51 And I don't think it's shots. I think he's literally just stating it as a matter of fact, like, hey, this is what I think is happening. I've been here a pretty long time. I've had some success. I'm the back-to-back MVP. It would be stupid for them not to listen to him, which was the conversation about his contract dispute
Starting point is 01:11:05 a couple years ago when he was thinking about, like, fuck, trade me, get me out of here, I'm tired of not being. So, like, I was like what you pointed out, though. Him having a different emotion yesterday than he normally does tells me he's still invested, still competitive. Right? It doesn't mean he's, like, checked out.
Starting point is 01:11:21 Like, if he came on yesterday and was completely normal, it's like, I think, everybody's reaction would be are you cool with aaron rogers laughing and talking about ayahuasca trips on the pat mcfee show when the team is three and four like that would be the conversation so i think when you're losing there's no winning but i think he is using it as a message to kind of tell everybody how he feels ty you, you're a Packers fan. I assume you have similar thoughts or your friends and family who are Packers fans have similar thoughts than as the coach is going in. Like, let's be excited about what's going to happen here, but also know that our hearts could get broken with every word he says. Yeah, for sure. And I
Starting point is 01:11:58 think that is a good point. It was nice to see a little piss and vinegar. I think as a Packers fan, at least you would have been like, oh, okay's i was hoping he wasn't going to come on and just be all happy go lucky no big deal we're going to get it turned around everything's fine because this is it's kind of uncharted waters like this is the worst record they've had seven weeks through the season three in his career yeah so it's like you know you kind of have to address that kind of stuff it's like everything isn't great right now like they're they have issues that they need to get figured out quick. And in terms of the coaches, like you would think they do watch it because you know that whenever LeFleur has his next interview with the press,
Starting point is 01:12:34 like they're going to be asking him a bunch of questions about what Roger said yesterday. Like it's as simple as that. So like, and I don't know. I mean, it's just, it's nice to know that he still does care. He's invested. But also, it is kind of like a bird call. It's like, hey, you know, shit isn't sweet around here.
Starting point is 01:12:51 So, like, if you're one of the guys that's making all these mental mistakes constantly, like, I feel like that's just the NFL in general. It's like, hey, if you don't fix that kind of stuff and get to the point where we're not having one guy who's fucking something up on every single possession, then you're not going to be playing. Like, you're not a stud in college anymore. You're not in high school. Like, this is the fucking NFL.
Starting point is 01:13:11 There's a lot of money on the line going into the season. Everyone thought that we were going to be, you know, competing for a Super Bowl, and now we've kind of put ourselves in a bad situation here where you don't quite have to run this table, but, like, you've got to start winning games and need to start winning games quickly. Greg Jennings buried him.
Starting point is 01:13:28 Yeah, he popped up again. What did he say? Per usual. Is he not co-hosting that show every day? I don't know about every day, but he's been on there quite a bit as of late. Oh, really? So he's only – I thought he was on there all the time. Sometimes T-Sizzle's on there.
Starting point is 01:13:44 And AJ's got his owner sometimes. Who? T-Sizzle's on there. And AJ's guys are on there sometimes. Who? T-Sizzle? So? Kid Rock? The barbecue sauce guy. Mangled? It's the Carton show.
Starting point is 01:13:52 We're talking about the Craig Carton show. Mangled was on last week. Greg Jennings is not on that all the time? I don't think he's on every single day, but he's one of the panelists. He's on there a decent amount. Okay, got it. I saw him on there yesterday. Oh. He's on there a decent amount. Okay, got it. I saw him on there yesterday, and he was blasting.
Starting point is 01:14:06 Or saw him talking about Aaron talking about, you know, his teammates. Can't do this publicly. Can't do that whole thing. And, you know, I can hear where Greg Jennings is coming from, but, like, that guy's going to hate Aaron forever, right? Why does that – that guy is not a big Aaron fan? Do you know anything about that? Were you around them?
Starting point is 01:14:22 I came in with greg same draft class yeah i mean i know greg well i don't know what his deal is with aaron i don't like i would think if i asked greg okay what do you hate aaron he'd say no he said no what are you talking about i'm just giving my opinion on what i think but obviously it's he pops up and went in negative times and says negative things about him so it's like all right it does seem like that is the trend and i don't know greg and i don't know what happened behind the scenes so i'm not i'm gonna go ahead and stay out of it but it does seem like he is a very. And I don't know Greg, and I don't know what happened behind the scenes, so I'm going to go ahead and stay out of it. But it does seem like he is a very regular, who's a teammate of Aaron, right?
Starting point is 01:14:50 So it's a little bit heavier, right? Because this guy was in a locker room with Aaron. He knows Aaron. And he does say a lot of negative stuff. You usually don't see that, especially receivers, quarterbacks. If you watch most of Brady's former teammates that are in the media, you almost never see him take a shot at it, regardless of what he's doing.
Starting point is 01:15:07 He mentioned 11 days of camp. Antonio Brown. I mean, Patriot teammates. Sure. Oh, he was. Oh, damn, he was. But I think AB's a fucking nut job. Yeah, there's a chance.
Starting point is 01:15:22 He's the president of Donda Sports. Exactly. Still is, even though Jalen Brown, Aaron Donald. Everyone. And Adidas. Adidas, Balenciaga, CAA, although they work for him. So a lot of people kind of misrepresent that. J.P. Morgan, Chase, I think.
Starting point is 01:15:44 Good music. 140 million in there yet. They've all separated from Donda. I've all separated from Donda after obviously saying hateful things about the Jewish community. Hey, we got good relationships with the Jewish community. We got nothing but love for them, you know? I don't know why you would have necessary hate for anybody, but it feels like connie's attempting to cancel himself at this point with the things that he is saying i don't know there's that way there for a little bit i was i was getting updated via my wife on collier uh because you know it's in the reality world family yeah so it's in that world now so there
Starting point is 01:16:21 was a time there where he was just using his instagram stories right he deleted all his posts no posts yeah and he was i mean it was some entertaining shit it's like all right here we go here we go here we go here we go and then i think you know i'm part of the problem because i'm giving them views on that um i was talking about on this show i think i talked about a couple times i'm like oh kanye just fucking buried somebody. And it was like, you know, because I, I, I listened to Kanye's music,
Starting point is 01:16:48 you know, back. Oh, Kanye. That's straight from the go. Kanye. That's right. You know,
Starting point is 01:16:53 that's why I listened to that. So now that he's not in like our world, like I just like, ah, it's Kanye doing Kanye stuff. Then it feels like he really took a turn and was like, no, I would like to,
Starting point is 01:17:03 I'd like everybody on earth to hate me or something. Listen up. Like, it sounds like that really took a turn and was like no i would like to i'd like everybody on earth to hate me or something listen up like it sounds like that is what he wants to do and they're saying that mental health stuff it's like all right well he's still getting on camera you know so yeah people really have to pay 1.2 mil to that moving company that's oh my bad antonio brown i mean foxy was on it we're talking about this he was ready for the year 1.2 no I was because I wanted to ask about him being the president of Donda I was like I want Danny boy hustle hard to do a vlog I want to see from wake up till bedtime what his responsibilities are as president hustle hard to see oh oh though I don't think he has time to
Starting point is 01:17:38 make a vlog for him never mind well then you know somebody Antonio Brown though owes 1.2 million that moving company it was originally like $60,000 or something. I don't know how it became. I thought it was like $4,000. I thought it wasn't even that much. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:51 I might have seen it at one appeal. This went through the bag of phallic. Yeah, the penis stickers. Items. Phallic. Live, too, right? I mean, that was live. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:00 Oh, yeah. There's a lot going on. Kanye actually, though, had a very eloquent explanation for why he has decided to stay at Donda Sports, which I encourage everyone to read. It's Antonio Brown. Yeah. What did I say, Kanye?
Starting point is 01:18:13 Yeah, and then you said the 1.2. I mean, you guys are saying the same person right now, AB and Kanye? They might be sharing the same mind. Hive mind. Yeah, it's possible. You'll learn for AB to put out some good music Mind meld
Starting point is 01:18:27 That would make sense Interesting Anyways we hope everybody Is happy Comes back stops burying people And just lives It seems like that's impossible to happen these days Just don't be mean
Starting point is 01:18:42 The original was $4,000 To $1.2 million that's quite a lawyer jeez let's have a grab that is incredible yeah incredible work to your point about the mental health part too i know a lot of people are pissed at the podcast for putting it out and like letting him continue to talk and not like kind of helping him by kind of basically keeping that to themselves because of how ridiculous. That's interesting too though, because he's been on a lot of platforms,
Starting point is 01:19:12 a lot of huge networks, different podcasts, you know, Mavin and bronze show. They, they had an interview, but didn't release it. So it was interesting.
Starting point is 01:19:21 Um, but like you said, it's tough when somebody i always um back when we used to record podcasts we always thought like uh pre-record we always thought well if whoever we're about to talk to says something makes themselves look bad or like buries themselves in a locker room without even knowing or like you know what i mean like says something that's uncomfortable like the like a broncos country let's ride like we can always save people like we can always save people never did though never really had to i think there
Starting point is 01:19:55 was like a couple people we had to save yeah but it wasn't like it rarely happens but i think it is something you have to think about whenever you're doing a show that is pre-recorded you all we always had that in the back of our mind when we're talking to somebody. It's like we could save somebody if they end up, you know, killing themselves. And I'm not even talking about it in a canceled fashion. I'm just talking about as like a human, like saying like something bad about a teammate without even knowing it's something bad about a teammate, but would certainly be received as something bad about a teammate by the people we do it. But now that we're live, like I haven't even thought about that anymore.
Starting point is 01:20:27 Like we're live. People know we're live. Like it's going to happen. In the prerecorded game, picking and choosing what you send out, knowing what's going to happen, I think is an interesting – that's an interesting conversation piece. The thought process is probably opposite than most people in platforms. They just want the clicks.
Starting point is 01:20:43 They want the views. So regardless of that person burying or canceling themselves, let's put it out. Absolutely now. The genius stuff. Oh, yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. Drama sells all that.
Starting point is 01:20:55 They just want people to make, hey, you've got to become aware of this. Okay, so let's dive in here deeper then. Drama sells, you know, okay, cool. What does it do? It gives you a bunch of views. So you can make money off of YouTube with a bunch of views, but the ads aren't going to be worth anywhere near what they would be worth if somebody was watching you because they actually genuinely enjoyed you
Starting point is 01:21:15 as opposed to just watching the shit. So, like, I think views are a cool thing, and people have made a lot of money getting views off of negative stuff and everything like that. But I don't think, like, there's actual views that mean something and then there's just a number which is just something that happened that people are like i think there's a deeper dive into that on what's good you gotta have good you gotta have a good show though yeah like the clips maybe if somebody people aren't really aware of it but hopefully clips of drama or something that
Starting point is 01:21:43 happens yeah okay it makes somebody aware of it then you hopefully clips of drama or something that happens, yeah, okay, it makes somebody aware of it and then you hope to bring viewers to the actual show. If you have a good show, though, you have to have something legit to offer once people find out about you. Yeah, I guess. You're right. It's a good commercial. I guess that's a way to do a commercial for your show. Our particular strategy has been to be
Starting point is 01:21:59 incredibly lucky and get opportunities to go on other shows and be like, well, that'll be our thing. Yeah, tweet. We'll tweet. and tell people not to watch the show and say, why are you watching? That's a little different, different style. Yeah. Well,
Starting point is 01:22:11 with Kanye, I'm doing business. Yeah. I'm telling people to not watch our shit. By the way, this is kind of how I think it should work in there. Cause I think there is too much bullshit. Like not that,
Starting point is 01:22:22 not that, Hey, Kanye is a grown fucking man. He made himself a billionaire. Um, you know, I think he wants to be canceled. think there is too much bullshit like not that not that hey kanye is a grown fucker man he made himself a billionaire um you know i think yay wants to be canceled yeah all the shit he's saying he wants it out there i think so and there's gonna be some story like five years from now kanye rebirth yeah it's gonna come out it's gonna be a whole thing i assume and is kanye actually not that much of a chess player he's just living in the moment
Starting point is 01:22:46 because we all give him this genius title because how good he was in music you know he was able to create incredible beats for everybody and he was able to tie things together and his artistic ability with shoes and fashion changed every single he worked with adidas he changed everybody else though too everybody else was trying to create so i think we all automatically label genius, genius, genius because of his artistic ability. Is he thinking 10 steps ahead at all times? Is he like, I've got to get canceled so I can disappear for five years
Starting point is 01:23:13 and then come back as a rebirth and it's a new yay? You know, like that could be what he does. And everybody would be like, of course, this is what Kanye was doing. He'll be on the other side. He kind of already tried to do that once with, like, the Sunday service stuff, though, right? I mean, he was kind of, not to the point of where it is now in terms of getting canceled, but he's already kind of tried that.
Starting point is 01:23:33 It's like, oh, shit, everyone, you know, when things got really hairy with Cam the first time around, he's like, oh, I'll do the Sunday service gospel stuff, kind of rebrand myself as a man of God, a man of faith, and then here we are what two years later and it's like and he didn't pay the people yeah that too that's sunday yeah exactly most people we crowd with the or call geniuses or whatever usually it's another in the back spectrum that you see at some point you know whether it's before they reach that or after but at some point if somebody's up that high you see the the dark side of that or the bad side of that as well so i think you're right i think that's 100 true because you can't be a
Starting point is 01:24:08 genius in all things like a genius in certain aspects of your life and then some other other aspects may struggle a bit damn right that's like why we got billy with tech yeah right the internet you know what i mean what does he struggle with well we don know. We haven't seen it yet. I think maybe... I don't know. Being a dog. Yeah. Because he always is. He struggles with
Starting point is 01:24:29 not being a dog. Right. The urge to not just get every Medal of Honor available. Yeah. He was a Marine. Yeah. Billy a bad motherfucker, too.
Starting point is 01:24:40 Yeah. I can tell. When we called his name and he looked down there. The way he walked. Kind of like a silhouette. he just kind of looked back anybody that walks like anybody that has been taught how to march
Starting point is 01:24:50 and I'm not saying ban, no offense ban's probably badasses too but when you see the people who have been taught how to military parade walk almost and they still carry it into their fucking retired life even though it is a little sloppier but you see kind of the bones of it.
Starting point is 01:25:06 You're like, all right, this motherfucker used to have to run like four miles every morning. Yeah. For like years and years and years. All right. And lady, what are you talking about? You fucking sexist prick. We're talking about Bill. Oh, you're talking about Bill.
Starting point is 01:25:17 Yeah. I was talking about as a whole. Oh, no, no. Yeah. I was just saying Bill. You've been called a couple of things today. Hey, AJ, you should have seen the way this whole show started. We had a little like a little buzz in the ear.
Starting point is 01:25:27 Connor goes, looks like Darius. That's what he said. And lo and behold, who was it when we got down to the bottom of it? Was it Darius? There was a light underneath it. Okay, so it was Darius. No, it wasn't Darius. I put that light there.
Starting point is 01:25:39 Oh! It was coming from the area Darius was in. And it was there because Darius was there. What's your problem? My problem is Darius showed up on a Monday, and he didn't want to hang out with us for two days. That's my fucking problem. That is true.
Starting point is 01:25:54 We saw his ass on FanDuel TV. We did. I'm like, that's a fucking hotel room. That's not Darius' house. I know where that is. I stayed in a hotel. That's in Indianapolis. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:03 And that shocks you? Yeah, it does, because I'm also living downtown and basically right next to where Darius is staying at his hotel. No, different hotel. No, I moved. I'm living next to that hotel. Right next to it. Bullshit. You didn't invite him up to the apartment
Starting point is 01:26:20 so give him a pair of binoculars so you can both creep on some homeless people? Good question. I do have two pairs of binoculars just in case other people want to watch me because it is electric. I almost brought down all those breadsticks on Monday just to be the king. Alright, you two fight. Whoever wins gets his breadstick.
Starting point is 01:26:36 You're a bad guy. Let's talk about a good guy. Just if people wanted to watch. I'll tell you what, we got a good little circle going. Alright, let's move on. That already happened. It was called bum fights. They got in a lot of trouble.
Starting point is 01:26:49 Bad things. You're a bad guy. These are called breadstick fights. Everyone wins. No, not everybody wins because you're making them fight for the breadstick. You should just give the fucking
Starting point is 01:26:57 4,000 breadsticks that we had. Thank you, ESPN, for ordering us lunch the other day. Thank you, ESPN. Pizza was delicious. Gave us five pizzas, 45 orders of breadsticks, a bunch of wings. We are very thankful for it.
Starting point is 01:27:12 Those breadsticks, though, could have fed all of Indianapolis. Yes. Thank you, ESPN. Thank you. Pizzas couldn't, though. Why? Just because I don't even think the bombs would have ate those pizzas. Still a very nice gesture.
Starting point is 01:27:28 Either way. We appreciate it. What happened? I'm not. I just said we appreciate it. It was not their fault. No. No, they didn't know. They didn't fly out here and try the pizza scent.
Starting point is 01:27:39 They just called in. And the call in was a problem. Hey, can we get 200 breadsticks and the five worst pizzas you have? Oh, come on. I mean, hey, what was wrong with them? It was both. I don't know. They just had like shoestring cheese.
Starting point is 01:27:52 Yeah, usually when you're. They were like super. Super hoity-toity, you know, when you're ordering pizza. Oh, fancy pizza. Just kind of a rule of thumb here. Pepperoni wins every time. Just get fucking pepperoni. You don't need any other bullshit on there because people.
Starting point is 01:28:04 Fancy stuff. They'll take shots at it. I would assume that they paid a lot extra for the pizzas that came. They spent a lot of money on stuff. Eat pizza. You don't need to eat something with 700 things on top. The one had broccoli on it. There was broccoli.
Starting point is 01:28:16 Broccoli. That might have been a message. They might have been sending a message to our whole office. They might have been sending a message to our whole office about being a little bit out of shape. That makes sense. It was not their fault. We appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:28:26 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. There's somebody that took time out of their day to do that. And the way we're talking about it is just so different. The wings were amazing. The wings were absolutely so good. The breadsticks were getting fit.
Starting point is 01:28:40 Those are going to take a little bit to get through. There's a lot of them, but they were getting housed. The pizza's still here, though. The pizza is still. Yep. Not even the crows would eat it. I think it was because it was 36 games. They always got Bill's car.
Starting point is 01:28:51 Yeah. That is a thing. Yeah, we don't want your fucking pizza. Well, it actually took out Ty's new car this morning. What? What are you hiding? Oh, nothing. You saw me.
Starting point is 01:29:00 I fucking got rid of that problem like that. Come on, get it. Yeah. Go get it. And guess what? That thing got the hell out of there right away. All right, let's talk about some football news. Russell Wilson has responded about the flight to London.
Starting point is 01:29:14 Russell Wilson's full quote to media after Wednesday's practice, I don't really get jet lag too often. I don't really. I've traveled enough to kind of get it out of my system down. For me, I was on the plane the first two hours. What is it, an eight-hour flight? The first two hours, I was watching film, of course, watching all the cut-ups and everything else.
Starting point is 01:29:30 And then the next four hours, I was doing treatment of the plane. I was on the plane, probably. I was walking up and down the aisles. Everyone was knocked out. I was doing high knees and working on my legs and everything else, making sure I'm ready to rock. So that was good in the last two hours. In the last two hours.
Starting point is 01:29:44 The last hour of that, I fell asleep for two hours uh in the last two hours the last hour of that i fell asleep for one hour and i watched film for the rest okay i felt uh good to go once we got back coaches did a good job coach landau and the whole coaching staff had us do a little movement so we got here as soon as we got here i did a little movement i did my full workout did all that and then maybe rested for about two or three hours once I got home, I feel great. Okay. Aren't they in England right now? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:07 Yeah. He probably has a house over there. He has a home there, yeah. He bought one this offseason strictly when he saw the schedule for. Can we go back? Am I high? No. There was either typos or something. Easy, AJ.
Starting point is 01:30:18 Please. Can you go back to who tweeted this? McConner? Zach Steak. This is fake. We got had. This guy's a troll. Got to be, this? McConkner? Zach Steen. This is fake. We got had. This guy's a troll. Got to be, right?
Starting point is 01:30:28 This has got to be fake. We've used his stuff before. Which part doesn't make sense? What's not real about this? What he said when he got home. Aren't we talking about the flight to England? He's in fucking England right now, right? Well, wherever he's at, he feels at home.
Starting point is 01:30:44 Yeah, is there a church in London? I assume. So once he went to the church, he's home. Let's read this again. Okay, so he is currently in fucking London right now. Correct. He'll play on Sunday. I don't really get jet lag too often.
Starting point is 01:30:56 I don't really. I've traveled enough to kind of get my system done. For me, I was on the plane the first two hours. What is it? An hour flight? The first two hours, I was watching film, the first two hours. What is it? An hour flight? The first two hours, I was watching film, watching all the cut-ups and everything else. And then the next four hours, I was doing treatment on the plane. I was walking up and down the aisles.
Starting point is 01:31:14 Everyone was knocked out. I was doing high knees and working on my legs and everything else, making sure I'm ready to rock. So that was good. In the last two hours, the last hour that i fell asleep for one hour and i watched film for the rest i feel good to go uh i felt good to go once we got back coaches did a good job coach landell and the whole coaching staff had us do a little movement and so we got here did a little movement i did my full workout did all that and then maybe rested for about two to three hours once i got home i feel great so're just talking about his hotel room?
Starting point is 01:31:45 Yeah, maybe. What does he mean? Rested two to three hours before he went to bed? Is that what he's saying? What the fuck? He doesn't go to bed. I'm a terrible reader, I think. I am so flustered by everything that you said.
Starting point is 01:31:57 I mean, you read it. What are you flustered about? Some people like Russ. We understand when they're anywhere, wherever they're sleeping, wherever they're putting their head down at night, wherever their loved ones are, that's home. A Russell was a rolling stone. Wherever he laid his hat was his home.
Starting point is 01:32:18 That's what he's talking about. Four hours is a long time on a plane to be walking up and down, doing high knees, working your legs and stuff, as he said. I try to stand here every day for three hours. I fucking make it, what, 20 minutes or so, and I'm not even battling turbulence. I did the check. They left Tuesday for London. What time?
Starting point is 01:32:36 Let me check. Hold it. The headline says, with Tuesday trip to London, the Broncos are keeping the status quo on offense. This guy's awesome. I'll watch film, okay? First two hours, obviously. Yeah, what is this? Once I got comfortable enough with all the cut-ups and everything,
Starting point is 01:32:50 then I decide it's time to get a little treatment on a plane. Team three dialed up a couple workouts. I'm doing, what if he's doing 30 yards? Bro, how long is the plane? Is he running gassers on that plane? I assume so. Walking up and down the aisles, doing high knees in the aisles while everybody else was asleep.
Starting point is 01:33:04 I like him throwing that in there. That would have been one of those things on the podcast. Yes. It was prerecorded that he would have said, while everybody else was asleep, we would have just been like, okay. Let's take that part out. Let's go ahead and make this guy a little bit better. That's the only line I think that's a little bit interesting. That once we got home and then getting rested to go to sleep is certainly an interesting thing.
Starting point is 01:33:21 But he doesn't want to waste any hours. He doesn't want to waste any time. He wants to get better all the time, Ty. time he does but that's the thing about him just doing whatever he can to make it about himself like he i don't even think he realizes that but that's like a subtle shot at everyone else on the team like everyone else is knocked out you know how's that four hours running up and down you know i feel good this is what people do about aaron speaking this is what happens when you're a quarterback and a leader of the team this is what happens when you paid a lot of money and this is what happens when you're a quarterback and a leader of the team. This is what happens when you paid a lot of money.
Starting point is 01:33:46 And this is what happens when you're not winning. Yeah. All of these things are true. What's up, Tone? It continues to happen, though. The Denver Broncos put out a tweet on October 25th, which is. And they have no hope. Yesterday at 3.16 a.m. that they had just touched down in London Town.
Starting point is 01:34:02 Okay, so. I don't know if that was Logan. Start doing some math. 3, 5, 7 a.m. takeoff. 7 a.m. takeoff. They left Monday afternoon. Yeah, so start doing some math. 3, 5, 7 a.m. takeoff. 7 a.m. takeoff. They left Monday afternoon. Yeah, so they got there yesterday at what? Noon England time? 322 at 316 a.m.
Starting point is 01:34:13 I assume they're tweeting from London time. Yeah. Which is six hours since 9 a.m. 40 seconds to explain all that. I mean, 40 seconds to explain eight hours. Here's Mr. Unlimited. 40 seconds to explain eight hours. Here's Mr. Unlimited. He's awesome.
Starting point is 01:34:29 Sounds good. You know, I don't really get jet lagged too often. You know, I don't really try hard enough to kind of get my system down. But yeah, for me, I was on the plane the first two hours. I was, first two hours, it was an eight-hour flight here. The first two hours, I was on the plane the first two hours. I was, first two hours, it was an eight-hour flight here.
Starting point is 01:34:46 So the first two hours, I was watching the film. Quarter. Watching all the cut-ups and everything else. And then for the next four hours, I was doing treatment on the plane. I was walking up and down the aisles. Everybody was knocked down. I was doing high knees and working on my legs and everything else, you know, making sure I'm ready to rock.
Starting point is 01:35:00 So that was good. And then the last two hours, the hour of that I watched I fell asleep For one hour And I watched So I felt good to go Once we got back And then we had
Starting point is 01:35:11 For one hour This guy sucks What's your problem? Are you shitting me? It's tough He is talking As if he thinks That's what he's supposed to say
Starting point is 01:35:20 It looks like a skit Yeah it looks like a skit Like a parody Like something This might be a behind the scenes Is this like a behind the scenes Bit that he's doing? Is this like a skit, like a parody. This might be a behind-the-scenes. Is this like a behind-the-scenes bit that he's doing? Is this like one big documentary? Yeah, it's a big bit.
Starting point is 01:35:30 I'm sure it's all a bit. That would be awesome if it was a mockumentary. What if it's 10 years of a bit, and then it's just all... And he's the greatest human alive, if it is a bit. Yeah. The greatest troll job ever. What if all these films and all this camera that they have behind the scenes, they're just filming him being a completely different human being,
Starting point is 01:35:47 planning out all these things to create a superhero at quarterback. And then whenever he retires, we're going to get a documentary. And it's not going to be like Tom Brady's. It's not going to be like Michael Jordan's. It's going to be the complete opposite. It's going to be, look at this bit I just ran on the NFL for the entirety of my career. What if that's it? That feels like that's what has to happen
Starting point is 01:36:07 for that to take place in real life right there. Like AJ said when he was talking, like, what's so funny? He does it at every press conference. He's probably laughing at us. Oh, shit. Oh, so you're buying into them. Clowns are actually buying this shit. How long did it take?
Starting point is 01:36:21 Two hours, I watched a quarter. And then the rest of it, I slept for an hour. Then another hour. That's wild. Anyways, we appreciate Russell Wilson's effort into being the what he thinks a movie NFL quarterback is supposed to be like. Thank you, Russ. Thanks, Russ. Thank you, Russ.
Starting point is 01:36:39 And if you're doing things how the NFL quarterback is supposed to do it all the time, you assume that would equate to wins. Yeah. So let's hope they start winning so we don't have to judge everything that he does. And whenever that makes the Internet, back in the day when they were winning, we'd go, oh, he did, didn't he? Man, that worked so goddamn hard. Everybody else is fucking passed out. Hey, wakey, wakey, McManus.
Starting point is 01:37:01 What a time. Let's go through some other news. Shaq Leonard is stacking up the bulletin board material on his Twitter this happened last night Bill McComas Billy Tubes the man who codes for YouTube sent it into the group text and it was a screen recording of Shaq Leonard's Twitter account he is currently just liking every single tweet that is negative about the Colts, about everything he's doing, about what the Colts are. And this is classic Shaquille Leonard getting receipts. This is what Gary Vee talked about. This is what Bob Sala talked about. Shaq Leonard has been known to actually, I think he has the photo on his phone, a bleacher report or somebody grading the draft pick of Darius at the time,
Starting point is 01:37:45 grading the draft pick of Darius at the time, Shaquille Leonard, as the worst draft pick of the draft and maybe of all time. Still has that photo. He is motivated by these types of things. Seems like he's diving back into that. Last week, allegedly, he wanted to play. They didn't let him play. That means he's probably back against the commanders this weekend. I don't know if that's been ruled or not.
Starting point is 01:38:01 Nose looked good on the sideline. Probably had to have a restructuring of that after the hit he took that caused him to have a concussion right in front of our suite. Shaq Leonard's all the way back. This makes me feel good. Sam Ellinger, Holcomb, we're back. Shaq Leonard's fucking saying, run your mouth. This is good for the Colts, AJ.
Starting point is 01:38:17 This is good news. I'd say this is great for the Colts. It sounds like Shaq Leonard not only is going to be back and healthy, but he's highly, highly motivated with plenty of chips on his shoulder like Conman has stacked over the years too. If you remember from a couple months ago, I believe Conman is stacking chips always. Oh, yeah. As tall as he is.
Starting point is 01:38:36 Darius, you're scared to death about this Colts team, what the future looks like and what the rest of the season looks like as an alumni of the Indianapolis Colts? Yes. Me too. Absolutely. I'm not going to tweet it though because Darius is going to like it. I don't want Shaq to like it because I fucking love Shaq.
Starting point is 01:38:48 We're a much better team with Shaq on the field. He hasn't played much. We've been losing. But, damn, this team needs to find some sort of identity, some sort of electricity, and find something in that locker room that can be a little bit of success. Yeah, I mean, we expect it. A lot of people expect it.
Starting point is 01:39:01 Obviously, the offense will be better with Matt Ryan in there. We expect a big year out of JT, especially Nick. Sorry, Nick. The O-line has been in shambles all year. But the only part of this team I feel like has kind of held up their end is the defense. You know, defense has played well this year. And then getting Shaq back out there, you would only think it would help that.
Starting point is 01:39:20 So, at least we got that to look forward to. So, you're positive? I mean, you got to be positive. Hell, yeah. You got to be positive. Hell yeah. You got to be positive, Sam. You know, Sam, maybe give us a little spark. He can move around a little bit. Just protect the ball.
Starting point is 01:39:30 That's number one with your offense. Protect the ball. The ball is the program. I saw Matt Ryan talk this morning in the locker room about being benched, and he said he's just here. He's moving on, supporting the team. I think some people talked about requesting a trade. There is a full ping pong game happening in the background, though,
Starting point is 01:39:45 as Matt Ryan's given this testimony about being benched at this stage of his career. Optic's a little interesting, obviously. Maybe have him do a press conference for that type of thing as opposed to right next to the ping pong table. But Matt Ryan's going to be the third string quarterback as he gets healthier, hopefully, with that grade two shoulder sprain. And there's a lot of season left, AJ. A lot of season left.
Starting point is 01:40:05 Ain't that right, A.J. Hoss? Yeah, they may need Matt Ryan eventually. You never know, like, with health and how everything goes. But as D-Bud said, I think Ellinger can be that dude. Like, imagine if he comes out game one starting. Like you said, we talk about all the moxie this dude has. If he can play well, obviously Shaq Leonard's back on D. That helps him a bunch.
Starting point is 01:40:24 You could. You could have a lot of hope, I feel, in Indianapolis, especially if Sam E's back on D. That helps him a bunch. You could. You could have a lot of hope, I feel, in Indianapolis, especially if Sam Ellington can sling it around a little bit. Yeah, he got no book on him either. Nobody has a clue what this guy's going to do. You know what he's going to do? Magic. I hope so.
Starting point is 01:40:36 We need it. He's a magic man. If not, they owe you $200,000. No, it's not that much. It was $150,000. Let's have a little bit of respect for the price. Yeah, but $50,000 for the things that you had to deal with, like the camera guy pooping in the suite and the Apple Ryan.
Starting point is 01:40:49 So we left for eight years over. Yeah, but I left before the Alec Pierce touchdown that happened right in front of the suite, so I'm not allowed to complain about the price anymore. That was worth the price of admission, I believe. That's probably a part of it all. And the only person that's in a photo is Bruce Brown. Bruce Brown's incredible mustache
Starting point is 01:41:05 because i'd already left at that time because you know these weekends weren't getting along with those watch alongs at night with game day oh yeah wait who's dumping in that suite bruce brown one on camera yeah it was really a design flaw it looked like i just said that what's that connor's connor mentioned it know. What do you mean you're on camera? It was a design flaw. The cameraman is up on like a perch right next to our, and it's just a cement thing with no room there. No door for him to get out.
Starting point is 01:41:36 No door. He's up on a perch. You know what I mean? Reeking of piss. So, well, he's working hard. He's working hard. He's working hard. But potentially peeing himself instead of running.
Starting point is 01:41:45 Yeah. So nearest bathroom, the closest one was, I assume, through our suite to down right next to us. Either this way is a family one or down the hallway. But there was a code red that happened. Okay. Code red in the middle of one of these games where a cameraman jumped down, sprinted. We're talking full sprint through our suite. Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:42:10 Big guy. I mean, he was talking yoked up guy, big guy sprinting. Thought there was a shooting maybe. It was like that type of thing. Then he comes back in, walks up onto his thing. So I asked the Colts, I'm like, is everything okay with the cameraman? And I didn't even mean to say like I mean is this guy gonna be sprinting through our suite the entire time I don't know if that's
Starting point is 01:42:30 gonna be happening but then they got him a ladder they built like a whole new thing for him so I feel bad about that he's always been a very nice person that cameraman but yeah I thought he was gonna I thought there was potential shit coming through in the middle of our suite and somebody almost got tanked. I mean, somebody almost got taken out as well. It was a real problem. But I think it was a design flaw, not the cameraman's flaw. I'd feel pretty bad for that dude if he did have dumps running down his leg and he's jumping through your suite.
Starting point is 01:42:54 Dude, it was an interesting situation. He comes back, does the whole second half. It's like we thought Zito was going to have to get up in there and do the camera. We had Zito ready to go. Zito was standing there because the half was about to kick off. Teams were on the field. He is just making it back up on there. We're like, wow.
Starting point is 01:43:10 Thought Zito was going to have to have the seat. We got great seats, though. Great seats. Unbelievable. Got the commanders this weekend. Can't wait. Glenn's going into the ring of honor. Tyra Glenn.
Starting point is 01:43:20 I heard cheapest ticket on SeatGeek because of Ellinger starting is like six, seven grand, something like that. That makes sense. This is going to be a big Sunday. Where are we ranked right now in the power rankings? Okay, so let's dive into that. Thank you so much for bringing it up, D-Butt. D-Butt, D-Putz brings up a great thing.
Starting point is 01:43:42 Every single season we have the incredible opportunity of watching somebody else put their entire life on the line every single week. And I'm not talking about in like a life or death situation. I'm talking about in a happiness or miserable situation. There's one man who says, put the onus on me. Put the pressure on me. I will rank the teams of the NFL for the NFL. I will certainly piss off 31 teams every single week. I will utilize all of my time on Sunday night and Monday morning and Monday night before it is released, scrutinizing over every single decision. Every once in a while, I'll let my 7-year-old son make a decision because between 17 to 25, who gives a fuck?
Starting point is 01:44:27 That man is Dan Zeus. And ladies and gentlemen, it is time for Dan Zeus' Power Rankings. Hey, Dan Zeus! Wait a second. Oh, look at that. We didn't fix the graphic. Foxy, thank you for doing this because since it is the first edition of
Starting point is 01:44:46 Dan Zeus' Power Rankings, there is something that we need to talk about before we get started talking about the rankings of Dan Zeus and the pressure on Dan Zeus and the life that Dan Zeus has to live being the authority on ranking NFL teams for the NFL. We asked
Starting point is 01:45:02 Bill McComas, who's gotten into the graphic design game. We said, Bill, can you please make a graphic for Dan Zeus' power rankings? We get these graphics this morning. NFL Network's week eight power rankings. Didn't even have fucking Dan Zeus' picture in the back
Starting point is 01:45:18 like the first one I saw. I said, is this not Dan Zeus' power rankings? And Bill goes, where does he work? And I'm like, Bill, what about fucking Dan Zeus? We have Billy Tubes here. I assume he knew we were going to talk about this. Bill, why do you hate Dan Zeus? You know, I could make an excuse here.
Starting point is 01:45:34 I could try to get myself out of it. I forgot who Dan Zeus was. I'm not going to lie. I forgot who Dan Zeus was in person. We haven't delved into the power rankings for a while since last season because they don't matter. That's early on. Because of Hanzoose?
Starting point is 01:45:49 Yeah. It's all about Danzoose. I respect him. He does a great job at what he does now that I remember who he is. Turn him off, Bill. What the fuck is wrong with you? I haven't seen him on TV recently. I mean, we have the same channels on every time.
Starting point is 01:46:04 NFL Network. Bill! The guy's gone!, we had the same channels on every time. NFL Network. Bill! The guy's gone! They demoted the guy. Bill was also drinking an entire Red Solo cup of whiskey before the show. Oh, yeah! 10.47 a.m. A McComas cracking open a little whiskey.
Starting point is 01:46:19 Vegas mode. Me and Bill took a shot together. Good whiskey. Pretty good. You took a shot, too. Yeah. What are you talking about? A little ammo? Having a good time. It's a daily celebration, a shot together. Good whiskey. Pretty good. Good whiskey. You took a shot too? Yeah. What are you talking about? A little ammo?
Starting point is 01:46:26 Having a good time. It's a daily celebration, a little vacation. Bill, there's nothing wrong with you taking a shot that early in the morning or whatever and trying something out for all of us. I appreciate you do it. Let's not make it a habit. Let's not obviously become addicted to that whole thing. Let's do it reasonably, responsibly.
Starting point is 01:46:41 Absolutely. Obviously. Can't be forgetting about dan zeus and then being like oh he's even on tv they just like ruin him even more but i do appreciate all your hard work and thank you for delving into the graphics thank you bill boost back if ifs and fists were whiffs you can't forget dan zeus what that's right no hell yeah. Hell yeah. Thank you, D-Boot, for that line. That was not what he said. I'm close.
Starting point is 01:47:08 He co-opted that. But still, it was a nice little remix. Was it? Yeah, like R. Kelly Ignition. All right. I think he's canceled, too. Who? Ignition?
Starting point is 01:47:20 He's a bad, bad guy. He's in jail for like 30 years or something. I think life, yeah. Is it life? I think life, yeah. Is it life? It might be. He was a terrible, disgusting guy. Yeah. Weirdo.
Starting point is 01:47:32 How was that able to happen for so long, you think? Ah, let's get into the pirate. Honestly, that was crazy, all the information that came out from that, and it was just like happening for a long period of time while we're all kind of having the technology that we have makes no sense devil's advocate great tipper what's that i was working at cold stone one time he came in and uh he left me a big tip yeah that was to keep your mouth shut yeah he didn't add it he'd like to cut his eats jim
Starting point is 01:48:03 turns out all zeke's jib. Turns out all Zeke's favorite people are terrible, terrible human beings. Whoa, what do you mean? Anyways, R. Kelly, bad guy. Yeah. Horrible guy. Oh, did he say hi? Hi. Zeke didn't say anything.
Starting point is 01:48:16 Unbelievable. Wow. I said I like Dan Zeus. Okay, yeah, we do. We do like Dan Zeus. Yeah. Let's get to Dan Zeus' power rankings on this sports show. 32nd team in the NFL.
Starting point is 01:48:29 The Houston Texans. 31st team. Once again in the bottom two. Hell yeah. The same old Lions. Carolina Panthers get a big win over the Buccaneers. Who cares, says Dan Zeus. You fucking stink, number 30.
Starting point is 01:48:50 How'd they drop? They went from 27 to 30 after a win? Dan Zeus plays no fucking games. They're actually up from 32, I believe, pal. Oh, okay. My bad. I'm reading it. Green arrow.
Starting point is 01:48:59 Yeah, the one next to it. Open your eyes. I mean, okay. What? Like anyone can read this. Whoa! Bill! Shots fired. No shots at Bill. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 01:49:14 He's the one who made the graphic. I mean, that is a shot at Bill. He took a shot at Dan. 29. Holy smokes. Packers are at 19. Patriots at 17. Other notables, the Colts are at 26. Let's get to the top.
Starting point is 01:49:29 Number one team in the NFL, the Buffalo Bills. Number two, Philadelphia Eagles. Kansas City Chiefs, who's lost to the Bills, is probably the reason why they are number three, because they looked fantastic this past weekend in the National Tight End Day Super Bowl. Yeah. Niners and Chiefs.
Starting point is 01:49:47 True. Cowboys at four. AJ, you've got to be pumped about this. This has been your team for like three years. They're finally living up to the gifts that you thought they had. Well, three years ago when I picked them to win the Super Bowl, I mean, I haven't stayed on their bandwagon as long, but I guess they've got to be pretty excited to be in the top five, don't they?
Starting point is 01:50:02 Yeah, Mike McCarthy does. Geez, there was a lot of heat on him getting fired for Sean Payton before the season started. Now the number four team in the league says Dan Zeus. Number five team, Bengals, seems like they have gotten very hot. They're fun to watch. Jamar Chase and Joey Burrow well on their way of being Aaron and Devontae. It is amazing watching them operate on the offense side of the ball.
Starting point is 01:50:22 Defense side of the ball, they've got dogs over there. Bengals have tightened it up. Yeah, I think through seven weeks, I don't think they have a lot of touchdown in the second half. Yes. Mike Hilton, dog. Which is crazy. Lou Aruma.
Starting point is 01:50:33 Lou Aruma. Go, Paisano. Paisano. Speaking of Paisanos, New York fucking Giants. Them Johns are the number six team in the league right now. If you were to take a guess a year ago, two years ago, three years ago, four years ago, five years ago, six years ago, where the Giants would be ranked at any time on Dan Zeus' power rankings,
Starting point is 01:50:54 which are the authority on power rankings in the NFL, they would say bottom five every time. This team has fucking stunk. Saquon's a dog. Dable and Wink have the boys flying around over there. Fun team to watch play with Daniel Jones. He can run the rock all over the place. Forget four or five years, even four or five weeks ago, you said.
Starting point is 01:51:13 That team stinks. You think? Yeah. I think we would have, yeah, because training camp videos were bad. Bad for Daniel Jones. Dable got them figured out, though, whenever he arrived in the blue Ford F-150 that fucking Bruce Brown now drives around Indianapolis in the early mornings.
Starting point is 01:51:32 Early, early mornings he's on those things. How early? Very early. Very early. Signs up to be earlier than he even has to be. Wow. Signed up. That's horrible.
Starting point is 01:51:40 Yeah, just out of nowhere. He goes, you know, I'll show up at that ridiculously early time. Like, out of nowhere. Yeah, he did. Absolutely. That's what Bruce Brown does. We appreciate Bruce. He goes, you know, I'll show up at that ridiculously early time. Like out of nowhere. He did? Absolutely. That's what Bruce Brown does. We appreciate Bruce. Hey, Bruce.
Starting point is 01:51:48 Hey, Bruce. Congrats to your Giants. Vikings, brand-new head coach Kevin O'Connell and new GM are at seven. Ravens at eight. They move up big time. They were losing games, like giving up leads, giving up leads, giving up leads. They finally get a win over the Browns,
Starting point is 01:52:01 and everybody says they're all the way back. That's what it feels like? I guess. I don't know. I think they tried giving away that one, too. Oh, yeah. Still don't know if I trust their defense. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:09 I mean, honestly, after the top three teams, do we really trust? Ravens, Titans, Jets, Rams, Niners, Raiders, Fins, Seahawks, Chargers round out the rest of the top half of the NFL in Dan Zeus' eyes. AJ, what's your big takeaway on rankings? We love rankings, don't we? They matter. They matter. That third row, if you could pop it up, what, 9, 10, 11, 12,
Starting point is 01:52:33 those teams I'm wondering, like, okay, they're going to go one way or the other. I feel like that row, especially Titans, Jets, Rams, Niners, like which teams are going to take the step up to the second row and which teams are dropping back? All right, let's go around the horn. AJ, which team are you picking out of that group? Nine to 12. I like the Titans and Niners from here.
Starting point is 01:52:52 Okay, Darius, your thoughts? I like the Niners. Tone? Niners, D gets healthy. Ty? Niners. Connor? Just to be 32 by the end of the season.
Starting point is 01:53:03 That's your prediction? Yes. Wait, I thought we were doing positive. Oh, positive? Yeah. Nothing. I don't think I have. The Rams will, I was going to say 31.
Starting point is 01:53:14 Yeah, Titans. They play hard for Vrabel. I think so, too. Yeah. I like the Titans and the Niners as well, even though that seems to be the easy answer. But what if this is the Jets? You know, the Jets lose Brees Hall and their right tackle, who is an absolute
Starting point is 01:53:26 dog. That's a big-time loss. Brees Hall was scoring a lot of touchdowns. They were electrifying. Zach Wilson hopefully can figure it out a little bit as we go. They trade for James Robinson, so maybe they understand and realize what their team is, and they're going to continue to do what they were able to do with Brees Hall. Although Brees Hall appears to be an anomaly.
Starting point is 01:53:42 He's young. He's fast. And that offensive line blocks incredibly well. They lose one of their best players. But I just don't know about the Jets. No offense. I don't think any of us do. Jets fans are optimistic, I assume. But even you have to have some realistic views on everything with the Buffalo Bills being in your fucking division.
Starting point is 01:53:57 And when you look at the Rams, I was high on the Rams early. I lost a lot of money on the Rams early. And I think that just makes me jaded. But let's not forget, they got fucking dudes everywhere on that team. Everything I was saying about them at the beginning of the season still rings true. And if they were able to tighten it up and figure it out, they might go on a goddamn run. We'll see. Because last year when they won the Super Bowl, they didn't have the greatest start either.
Starting point is 01:54:19 It seems like they did have a little bit of a Super Bowl hangover to start this year. We'll see in the back half of the year. You would think that they would be able to turn things around. We were talking about the Jets, and literally seconds before he came in, came on the show, this guy, A.J. Hawk. I believe he sent in a quote from Zach Wilson that he is trying to rid his life of bowel movements. He only allows himself to take poops on Tuesdays
Starting point is 01:54:46 and Thursdays right now, I believe. Is that what you said? I thought that was for Russell Wilson. That's Russell Wilson. Well, no, it says, I thought it was Zach Wilson because it says, I wear number two on my chest. Yeah, me too, but I think that was just a misquote for number three. Okay. Even though they were talking about number twos. Because the tweet says Russell Wilson
Starting point is 01:55:01 from Zach Stevenson. Oh, no, no, no. This was just a screenshot of a... I did read the number two, yeah. Wilson's life is a continuous battle against what he calls wasted seconds. The biggest culprits are eating, sleeping, and yes, using the uh-huh facilities. So I immediately thought it was Russell Wilson after hearing that. And then the number two app and the number two on my chest would lead to maybe it is Zach Wilson. So I guess Zach Wilson said, which changes this drastically on how I view the MILF Hunter.
Starting point is 01:55:33 Where is this from? Oh, never mind. For sending that one commenter wrote this. No. And my commenter. You don't mean BFT? You fucking idiot. AJ sent it in.
Starting point is 01:55:48 Oh, that's from the Athletic Plus. That's from the Athletic Plus. Engage in that. What the hell is the Athletic Plus? Report on the internet. I think that is what BFT is. Yeah, writes in the same font as the Athletic and dupes a lot of people. It's an athletic article.
Starting point is 01:56:02 Yeah, there it is. One of the best brains of all time. You got to be careful what you say to the group chat. Sorry, Diggs. Yeah, it's always the one. Yeah, I don't think I'm bringing that up. Yeah, I don't think you... I mean, it was sitting in that cowboy hat.
Starting point is 01:56:20 That was unbelievable what was written? By Russell Wilson? Yeah, if that was about Russ... Can you run that 40-second clip again? Can we run that 40-second clip? That was about Russ. That's a completely believable quote. It's not that crazy to think that maybe he likes Sierra dumping on his chest.
Starting point is 01:56:33 Yeah, and also wear number two on my chest. That's a thing. You're right. Not that crazy to think that. Didn't John McAfee – I don't really get jet lagged. Yes. He looks young, too. I don't get jet lagged too often. that then john mack
Starting point is 01:57:04 i was doing treatment on the plane. I was walking up and down the aisles. Everybody was knocked out. I was doing high knees and working on my legs and everything else, you know, making sure I'm ready to rock. So that was good. And then the last two hours, the last hour of that, I fell asleep for one hour and I watched the film the rest.
Starting point is 01:57:21 This guy's a dipshit. Jeez. Kind of gets more and more upset every time no but i just wanted to play that just so that you know you could see how the covid cowboy could read that in sure by all the way in yeah and that's the issue really you know this is just like when uh ball sack sports put out that quote from antonio brown that's right And Antonio Brown was like, couldn't have said it better myself. Yes. Ah, dude.
Starting point is 01:57:50 Russell Wilson. What a human. Alright, let's take a break. Let's take a break. And on the other side, let's dive into everything DB. There's some more news happening around the NFL. Like Giants captain and starting center Nick Yates has been added to the active roster after being on PUP for 21 days at least.
Starting point is 01:58:08 He had to be on there to get off. He's coming back after seven surgeries to cure a fractured fibula and tibia week two last year. Fucking dog coming back. Seven surgeries. The amount of discomfort, miserable nights, probably a lot of questioning whether or not he'll ever play football again,
Starting point is 01:58:30 if he'll ever be able to do a lot again. This dude's back on the active roster. Congratulations, Nick Gates. This is crazy. You know who this guy is? You ever play against him? Obviously, I don't know. You played a long time ago. I didn't play against him, but I'm sure he has a big old rod down his leg and everything. I mean, seven surgeries.
Starting point is 01:58:47 It was a nasty break. I know that. I mean, just another thing to help the Giants out, though. This is good for them. Well, hopefully, you know. I mean, I don't want to be the bearer of bad news, but seven surgeries. He's a dog.
Starting point is 01:58:59 He's fucking fought through enough mentally. He'll be all the way back. He can't wait to get back out there. Hey, let's go, guys. Let's go, Nick. Here we go, Nick. So there's a lot of trades that have happened. So a lot of people have other people's first round picks. There's some teams that are going to get
Starting point is 01:59:13 that are good, that are going to get teams that are bad's first round picks. And the teams that are good are about to benefit greatly in the draft from the bad teams who continue to be bad who try to make a play, and they have a great draft pick that they have already traded away to try to get better, and they did not.
Starting point is 01:59:29 The NFL is about to get interesting, man. The Saints are 2-5. Their first-round pick belongs to the Eagles, who are the No. 2 team in the NFL if you listen to Dan Zeus. The Browns are 2-5. Their first-round pick belongs to the Texans. They stink. Two in the top five, though. The Broncos are 2-5. Their first-round pick belongs to the Texans. They stink. Right. Two in the top five, though.
Starting point is 01:59:46 The Broncos are 2-5. Their first-round pick belongs to the Seahawks, who have figured it out over there in the post-WrestleWilson era. How will those picks be spent? What will teams do going forward? If you're good, do you try to gather more picks? Do you add one more playmaker at a position that isn't normally one of the top picks? It's interesting to see how it all goes.
Starting point is 02:00:05 But it's like bad programs make bad deals that keep their bad programs bad. Consistently bad. You're right. That is something that we do see. Sometimes different organizations just can't seem to figure it out. It usually starts from the top, though, doesn't it? Yeah. Colts aren't going to be that team, though, Deebo.
Starting point is 02:00:25 We're back. We're back. All the way back. Let's go, Sam. Let's go, Sam! Go, Sam! Matt McConaughey coming? Well, he said he was made for the moment. He's Sam Ellinger. Hook him. Hook him. That's what Matthew McConaughey said. McConaughey should be the fighting coach of the Colts.
Starting point is 02:00:42 Invite him in the suite. Have him sit in the suite with you. What's that? Have him sit in the suite with you. What's that? You heard him. Have him sit in the suite with you. Open invite to Matthew McConaughey to sit in the suite. Hell yeah. Come on.
Starting point is 02:00:53 Hook him. All right, all right, all right. You guys are both coaches at Texas. He's the director of culture. He also coached, though, the basketball team. Boom. I'm going to coach the men's basketball team. He does a great movie.
Starting point is 02:01:06 He's played a lot of great roles. Given a lot of good speeches, a lot of good commercials. Great lawyer. A lot of super cool stuff. Open invite. Anytime you want to get in his suite there, Matthew McConaughey. I'm sure I'm not the only one. I'm sure there's a lot of other suites you could potentially sit in.
Starting point is 02:01:22 Ours, there is a chance that Bruce Brown will not tip the waitress in the order beforehand. So there's an entire situation at the end of the game where the waitress thinks that we hate her. And then we'll have to deal with it. If Matthew McConaughey's there, even better. Yeah, sweet talker.
Starting point is 02:01:43 Bingo. Matthew McConaughey's here. Sorry about it. Bruce, anything to say about the whole situation? It was a miscommunication. They could have a better system in place for sure, but I will make sure to include Rattuti in the tiny little box that they put there.
Starting point is 02:01:58 Yeah. I think Bruce did a scroll by, you know, because the ordering process has to be in by a certain time. Yeah. And to Bruce, we all forget about it. It's an awkward time to have to put in for the game, especially in the world that we're in and what we're concentrating on. To their credit, they send us a reminder like, hey, you need to do this.
Starting point is 02:02:15 By the time we see the reminder, though, normally the shot clock is on at that time. And I think it's a pretty well laid out, you know, system. And Bruce missed the tip line. It's certainly one time. And I love this lady. Did she like say something? Did she say like, Hey, did you forget this or what? No.
Starting point is 02:02:33 At the end, she asked if there was anything she could do differently. That would start crying. What are we talking about? It's so uncomfortable. It is so uncomfortable. Did Bruce yell at her? No, it was super awkward for the rest of the game. Yeah, it was super uncomfortable.
Starting point is 02:02:44 She's so nice. What did you say? She's an awesome lady. I didn't see it. This lady. super awkward for the rest of the game. Yeah, it was super uncomfortable. She's so nice. What did you say? She's an awesome lady. I didn't see it. This lady. You didn't see it? My bad. Yeah, she's like, oh, of course you did.
Starting point is 02:02:51 All right, you piece of shit. Just pay me. That's what she said to Bruce. She's an awesome lady, too. She works her ass off. It is great. But yeah, it was an uncomfortable conversation. Food's been great, though.
Starting point is 02:03:04 Matthew McConaughey there. Uncom, though. Matthew McConaughey there. Uncomfortable conversation. Matthew McConaughey, you're a Texas coach. Got to invite Acho. That's fucked. Yes. That's the next step. Soch or both?
Starting point is 02:03:14 Both. Get the brothers in there. Manny. Not Soch? Soch. It's your suite. Well, you're the one doing the inviting. Yeah, go ahead.
Starting point is 02:03:22 It just made sense. I heard uncomfortable conversations. I heard Matthew McConaughey. Ooh,. Yeah, go ahead. It just made sense. I heard uncomfortable conversations. I heard Matthew McConaughey. Ooh, Kevin Durant. It's called KD. Ocho, definitely invited. Would love to have you. If you want to watch a fellow Texas Longhorn play great NFL football,
Starting point is 02:03:37 Sam Ellinger's about to be that guy. Come on in. Yeah. I don't know if Ocho would feel welcome with Connor being there. What? Geez. Why? The remarks he made earlier in the show towards Darius and his general behavior.
Starting point is 02:03:49 Perfect person to have a conversation with. I'm sure they can hash it out. Exactly. You think so? You think you have to sweep? Is the right time to do that? You know, trying to have a good time? I think you guys just kind of, you know.
Starting point is 02:03:59 Maybe take it up to the concourse. Yeah, dude. Certainly come in, though. Conversation is out. Certainly come in, though. Conversation is that. Certainly come on in. Definitely invited. Kevin Durant, obviously. Sure.
Starting point is 02:04:11 Anytime. Whenever you want, Converse. What about the offensive assistant for the Texas football team with his stripper wife and the monkey that he has? Actually, it's Halloween season. He will decorate his house. And if you go into parts of the house, you shouldn't. Here we go.
Starting point is 02:04:25 Remember, we saw the video. Yep. Clearly show four different signs. Don't come in here. Monkey lives back there. He's going to fucking bite your fingies off if you stick him in the cage. Stay away. We saw the video from the monkey owner.
Starting point is 02:04:39 One more thing you do. Fucking kid can't read. Hole assassin, right? You guys talking about pole assassin? Yeah, pole assassin. Pole assassin. There it is. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:47 That's her. Make sure you bring that up on game day this weekend. It's pole assassin season. Dude's got to be a hell of a coach. Yeah. Why is that? The hook and ladder they run. That's a great recruiter, I bet.
Starting point is 02:04:59 Be who you can afford to be, man. I mean, that guy is doing it, obviously. Oh, you're talking about how the San Francisco 49ers offensive line plays. Yeah. They're fucking good. A lot of big bumps. They're good over there. Huge bumps. Fucking love you so much. Let's get to a break. Jacked up.
Starting point is 02:05:18 Is that in my ear or public? Zito has once again dropped a little piece of nugget of information into my ear for the third time today we do have breaking news on Netflix Aaron Hernandez doc will be happening limited series with John Bernthal Aaron Hernandez Zito in the middle of Sean Sharanya giving us an answer about either LeBron, Kawhi, Russell Westbrook,
Starting point is 02:05:47 Zion. Zito screamed in my ear, breaking news! Out of Netflix. Hang up on Shams. Hang up on Shams. Basically. This is a big deal because I'll be excited to see what we learn from this. You know, with the Dahmer doc and the Dahmer series, I felt like I learned a lot about one of the worst humans to ever
Starting point is 02:06:03 exist in planet Earth's history, just a pure evil person. Will this be able to be the same thing where we'll learn about Aaron Hernandez and how he got to where he was as opposed to the documentary about a guy showing up in his mom's kitchen cooking bacon?
Starting point is 02:06:18 Unfortunately, I think it has been duped. I think this is the McOchner situation. You go back up, this is from disbussing film, not discussing film. Here we go. There's not a chance that this is real. No chance at all, though. Good run. It makes sense.
Starting point is 02:06:33 Bernthal would crush this roll, though. Put it out in the universe, Zito. Is that what you had us do there? If it happens, it happens, right? Yeah, it's great. That's two today. Yeah. Number two.
Starting point is 02:06:44 They could have Fluffy, though, play the guy who's the quarterback's two today yeah number two they could have fluffy though play the guy who's the quarterback's father which would be sweet the comedian yeah the host of everything db which we will begin right now with darius butler my good my good yeah you sound good remember that pole right behind you not good all right so stay bum i'll stay right here uh let's get to it let's start right i think yeah yeah oh yeah all right we solid let's get right to it man so this is something that we've been talking about a ton obviously uh uh andy dalton had a rough night this night against the cardinals but uh we got three deep. One, two, three, and then four underneath in the red area.
Starting point is 02:07:33 But something that's kind of been repetitive throughout the season is these corners, these veteran corners undercutting these receivers once they get into this end zone. So it'll be two things to watch here. This corner, Antonio Hamilton, who, shout out to him, man. Been through a lot this year. He's the player that had the cooking accident. Oh, yeah. Burnt up his feet and legs and shit. So he just got back out, man. Been through a lot this year. He's the player that had the cooking accident. Oh, yeah. Burnt up his feet and legs and shit. Damn.
Starting point is 02:07:47 So he just got back out there. Got his first pick of the year out there on prime time. So watch him, and then we're going to watch Buda Baker in the middle of the field, the great read that he gets on Andy Dalton back here so we can let it run. But watch him. As soon as he – pause it right here. So right now, it serves you no purpose, no good purpose for young DBs, young cornerbacks to be on his top shoulder once he crosses this goal line
Starting point is 02:08:11 because if he catches it here or here, it's a touchdown. So as soon as he crosses this goal line, get underneath him, get in between the quarterback and him. Once again, just like basketball, ball you, man. And then watch how he undercuts this and makes this play. And even if he doesn't, that read and that break that you got from Buda Baker, that's textbook. It's like reading that quarterback.
Starting point is 02:08:33 Once again, not worried about getting deep, getting beat deep. You're reading that quarterback. As soon as you see that egg break, that hand come off the ball, great job by both of these guys. Everybody underneath did their job for him getting that interception. Undception undercutting once again it's something we saw with slay uh gilmore i think uh trevon diggs had one so this is something young dbs that's a cliff that that goal line be ready to undercut it now once again this is going to be a common thing that we go over uh today it's something we talked about early on with the first everything db that we had with the fire zones three under three deep
Starting point is 02:09:09 knowing who you're responsible for you responsible two strong three strong two weak whatever it is so this is going to be three under three deep so one two and then we're going to have a deep middle field safety but i want you to watch isaiah Isaiah Simmons right so right now we got one two as far as the receivers go one two and then this is number three let it play he's going to do a great job here with his eyes reading the quarterback pause it this is from depth so right now you got one right you're deep third you're deep third you're deep third you got two you got two and then he's got three but he's playing it from depth I believe this was like third and long. Let this play.
Starting point is 02:09:47 Great read and then an even better interception. That's right. One-hand interception. Obviously a big-time draft prospect. Kind of struggled early on. They've been having him play in slot corner. They've been having him play in some dime. He's getting better and better as the weeks go on.
Starting point is 02:10:03 It's a big-time play. This was, I think, the second of back-to-back pick sixes from this Cardinals defense. So playing it from depth, once again, this is his – he's relating to this guy. But it's third and forever, third and a bust ride. So they can rally and tackle that if he throws it to Kamara in the flat or if he throws it here, which he probably should have. Andy Dahl stares him down throws right to it just do six four runs a four three so makes the play and then gets home that's a big big dude
Starting point is 02:10:31 out there moving so great job in that three under three deep fire zone i love that next one another imagine being that guy aj it'd be cool to be that big that fast that smart well he can pretty much play every position on the field too i feel like yeah yeah at clemson did a lot of pass rushing played nickel sometimes line out as the outside corner um i believe what top top 10 i believe in the draft that was kind of the thing though right they didn't know how to play him when he came into the league now they're kind of figuring it out you think kind of yeah kind of just making him a slot defender he's not uh great against the run. Not really, you know, not like an A.J. Hawk type of guy you want in the box.
Starting point is 02:11:09 Oh, yeah. Going downhill, taking guys on. He's a guy you want playing in space. A guy perfect for these type of situations. Having coverage. Let his athleticism take over. And you get plays like this. Hopefully we see more and more of this as his confidence continues to grow.
Starting point is 02:11:22 That's everything in the league. Once you know what the fuck you can do, got to do, and then obviously your confidence, you start making plays like this. How about the feint up front there early? Is that for Andy Dalton to show Andy Dalton? I'm not sure what that step up was, but he stepped back and played. You see all three of these guys playing it from depth. Nobody's in a rush.
Starting point is 02:11:40 Look at him right there, though. You see him, Pat, if you run it back a half a clip, he looks like he's going to jump down for a second on the guy underneath. And I bet Andy felt that, too. He's like, oh, I can sneak this right behind him. Yeah, probably. Big deuce. You 6'4", he still jump.
Starting point is 02:11:55 Damn, we got this one from a tight copy? I don't think so. I don't think this is a tight copy. I mean, you can see it here. Great play, great one-handed pick. And then, obviously, getting into the crib. Next play, same thing, same coverage. Now, you got one, two, three, one, two.
Starting point is 02:12:09 But once again, it's three under, three deep on the defensive side of the ball. And this is Trevon Diggs. Now, I don't know what Jared Goff was doing with this throw, because it was a pretty clean pocket. You got a double move up here. And once he runs this double move, Trevon Diggs, like we went over this a few weeks ago, he feels like he's a receiver. Like once he identifies the route, he feels like if I'm in a good position,
Starting point is 02:12:33 if I'm in any type of position to see this quarterback, I'm going to play the quarterback. I'm going to play the ball. This is him doing it. His 17th interception in 35 games. So that's basically every other game this dude is getting his hands on the ball and catching it. So once again, double move. Pause right here.
Starting point is 02:12:49 A lot of corners right here will panic because they can't see that receiver, right? He's like, fuck that. I'm the receiver at this point. Once again, Jerry Goff, you'll see from the tight copy, makes a terrible throw. And he goes up and picks. And we're going to run it back one more time from the top. That's great ball skills, something he's been doing since his days so hold on hold on that's an interesting little thing you say he runs it like a wide receiver and i think a lot of people say that on tv but strategic wise there's
Starting point is 02:13:13 only one route that that guy can run at that standpoint and it's a go route so digs might as well run a go as well well no he can run a dough move and then come back he can run a uh so he can run that route up now that's pretty deep down the field so yeah at that point you kind of know and he feels it once again he has vision on that quarterback too so he's also seeing golf being ready to throw this ball and golf should see him too right golf should see that he's in a position where hey this dude's looking at me that's trevon diggs we saw this happen with um with Carson Wentz earlier in the year. Like, he stared right at him and said, I'm going to try this fucking guy anyway.
Starting point is 02:13:49 That's why he has 17 picks. Actually, can you run it to the wide one more time? Just to see the matches and the mechanics of the coverage again. Let it play. So, you got a five-man rush. So, pause. So, fire zones, it consists of at least five guys rushing most times. One, two, three, four, five.
Starting point is 02:14:05 And then you only have six guys in coverage so deep third deep third that's a deep third guy as well and then you have your three underneath defenders he's really an underneath defender he's playing it from depth this is two running vertical and he's kind of letting it go to that free safety you got our five five he's pushing through the three. He's matching there. And then he's underneath. He's matching the two. So 3-under, 3-deep. This is a coverage that you see a lot executing it.
Starting point is 02:14:32 And then once again, Trevon Diggs being special. A lot of people were surprised that they didn't look at this interception. Did you end up seeing it, and do you think it hit the ground or no? I thought they could have looked at it. They could have took a closer look, but, I mean, it's the Lions. It's the Lions. Thank you. Yeah, it's the Lions.
Starting point is 02:14:48 Is that a touchdown if it's a good throw? It could be. It could be. I mean, that's a tough throw to make, too. Look what Goff is throwing his ball. And that's something that he kind of has a feel for at this point. Like, unless that's, you know, Stafford, Josh Allen, you know, Mahomes. Mac Jones.
Starting point is 02:15:07 Not Mac Jones. It's only a handful of guys that can make that. Sam Ellinger, that can make that type of throw. Hell yeah. So, I mean, once again, even if it was, you know, Bobbitt or whatever, this is an amazing pick from, let's see, from Depp. I think it was second and two. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:15:24 I don't know what he was. I think it's second and two. Yeah, I don't know what he was. I think it's second and two. I don't know what he was thinking. Second and two, that's a waist down for defenses. And, like, he didn't even step in. Watch the mechanics of this throw again. So, you're not even getting the most out of your arm. You know, he's already not one of those guys mentioned.
Starting point is 02:15:40 But you got a clean pocket that you can step into. Great protection. Yeah. Unbelievable protection. You can step into that throw and make a better one. And he threw it like fading away. So this is obviously on golf and then just tremendous play from Trevon Diggs. You think he was thinking like, I play for the Lions anyways, who cares?
Starting point is 02:15:57 I don't know. Look at this. Make this look cool. And then watch this catch at the end. Man. Completely turns his body around. Look at his hips. You kidding me with his hips and confidence to have his eyes back too?
Starting point is 02:16:07 He's running backwards right now. Full speed. Like that's special. You can say what you want about bad eyes and, oh, he gives up big plays and this and that. But it's not a lot of players, period, but especially DBs that can make a play like that. Like that's something you would expect his brothers to find out there to make.
Starting point is 02:16:27 They review every turnover. No, they didn't review this one. They didn't review every turnover. They didn't review this one. That was the issue. Lions fans are really pissed about it. They do in New York, don't they? Yeah, they review every turnover and every score.
Starting point is 02:16:38 They did not review this one. At least that's what Twitter was saying. Well, Twitter. This is where we have this fussing films early. They did not review this one. I mean, they had to. There was probably a commercial break whenever the turnover happens, right? They didn't just roll right into the...
Starting point is 02:16:52 I mean, what are you... No, yeah. They just confirm it real quick, don't they? Didn't What's-His-Name tweet about this play that they should have reviewed it? Gene? Yes. Yeah, Gene said... Territory, yeah.
Starting point is 02:17:02 He thought it was a bobble or whatever. Yep, and he said they didn't review it and they should have. But I thought, Gene, Gene. Those are your guys, Gene. Gene, I thought they were reviewing every single turnover, every single scoring play. No matter what. If you throw a challenge flag, it's actually a punishment
Starting point is 02:17:17 because they're already challenging. Remember, that was happening a couple weeks ago. Lions versus Cowboys, no chance of reviewing that shit. Looks like he had control of that ball, though. I don't see enough to turn it over. He said, I'm surprised the play was not stopped for a formal, detailed review. He didn't say they didn't review it.
Starting point is 02:17:32 Oh, Lion. I'm surprised that the play was not stopped for a formal, detailed review of the interception ruling in Detroit versus Dallas. For a catch to be made, the ball can touch the ground, but the player must have firm control of it prior to that. It does not appear that Diggs does, in my opinion.
Starting point is 02:17:49 Now, we are zoomed in pretty close here. They had some pictures up there, some steel shots it looked like, too. He said they didn't review it. Did I not read that right? Formal. Formal. Bingo. What else?
Starting point is 02:18:04 That's like when it comes back. They look at it and they confirm it. They did it in the Sunday night game. Remember? All of a sudden, I forget which team. They're kicking an extra point. Oh, yeah. Bobble's right there.
Starting point is 02:18:13 Confirmation. That ball mid-air right there. You can't tell from here. No. Bobble. Yeah, it's really just. I don't know. How can we not?
Starting point is 02:18:20 It never touched the ground. Did it touch the ground? It definitely touched the ground, but I don't think it moved, bro. I don't know. I might be wrong. This is probably touched the ground, but I don't think it moved, bro. I don't know. I might be wrong. This is probably not the right angle. Oh, here we go. And then once they ruled it in the section on the film, it's going to be hard.
Starting point is 02:18:36 They need what? Inconclusive? Yeah, and if it's taken longer than two minutes, is it conclusive? I don't know. And if one team is one in five and sucks, does it really matter? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, and the other team is the most valuable and sucks, does it really matter? Yeah, exactly. And the other team is the most valuable team.
Starting point is 02:18:48 Just add it to the list. Oh, well. Same old lines. How about that delay of game, Justin Tucker? Yeah, you're damn right. You guys deserve to lose that. You know what? I hope that starts happening more. I hope the refs decide
Starting point is 02:19:04 that bad decisions have taken place and that team needs to be punished. That's right. Too much bad football. That was not the place where Jared Goff should have ever won on a second and two. Fuck them. What if that's what the refs say? Well, I'm tired of the bad football.
Starting point is 02:19:18 You guys coming after us? It's bad football every single week. We're going to start punishing you. Well, and they might be saying, like, hey, watch this. Watch how fucking pissed off Dan Campbell's going to get. Man! Don't you guys even look? He's staring at that Jumbo John 2 down there.
Starting point is 02:19:30 The fuck is that, man? It's like a 20-yard wide shot of him bobbling that catch. All right, let's move on. Sorry about that. Good play. Good execution, though. And the thing about those three underneath, three deep fire zones is, and I'm sure AJ can attest to this,
Starting point is 02:19:44 it gets to some points where you have some gray area, right? Because the true zone drops, as Coach Truck would call them, like high school drops. You just get to a spot. You get to your depth. But with these, you're relating to actual players. So if he comes this way and he comes that way, do you pass it off? These guys, they swap out.
Starting point is 02:20:03 So it can get some gray area when you have one less guy in coverage when you send a five. And that's why you send five, because you say, all right, fuck the gray area, you guys figure it out. We're going to send five to get home. But great play by Diggs. Let's get to the next one. Great catch, too.
Starting point is 02:20:19 Yeah. Great catch. Great catch, Foxy. Another one. Another five-man pressure, three under three deep. So, obviously, we got one, two. We got three here. And then one, well, one, two here.
Starting point is 02:20:31 So, the underneath defenders will relate to the twos, the seam flat players. And then you're going to have your three receiver hook, guys. So, let this rock. So, Paul, so right now he's coming and playing that from depth, right? Remember, this is kind of the same. He has the same responsibility that Isaiah Simmons had on his play, but he's kind of just going to go get this guy. He's playing his guy top down.
Starting point is 02:20:54 He's relating to number two. He's pushing through to number three. He's staying with number two as well. It's great coverage. Seems like a safe coverage too, by the way. It's a good coverage, and it's aggressive, right? Sometimes you coach this for the guys that play with vision to try to make a play on the ball, and then some guys it's tighter matching.
Starting point is 02:21:11 We used to run it with Chuck, and coming from that Baltimore, says we have very tight, tight matches, pretty much man coverage unless you've got a bunch. Then we'll get to some zone rules. But great coverage, pretty good pressure, and then another big play by the secondary. Oh, nice throw, Jared. See, at least Jared, he feels some pressure here.
Starting point is 02:21:33 And it's the thing, sometimes that first play, even with that clean pocket, maybe he saw the five-man pressure and said, all right, I know somebody's coming from somewhere and just fucking threw it up there. This one, you get a little, but as a quarterback, NFL quarterback, you got to be able to step and make accurate throws in this pocket. Do you think he saw Okaz, who's supposed to get three up there, running back, who's chipping right now? Do you think he saw him leave then and was like, oh, that's the spot?
Starting point is 02:21:56 That's exactly what he saw. Because when you have this much space, you should be able to complete this pass to him. You should. Right? But that's great. That's sticky coverage right at the sticks and makes that play. So that's that team flat
Starting point is 02:22:12 player knowing exactly where the sticks are and then making that play. Are they on a different page too? Because it looks like the receiver turned outside and he threw the ball inside. No, he should have turned inside. I think that's where all the space was. Yeah. I think that should have been where they throw it, right i mean what it went in my leverage yeah i'm not yeah i'm not an offensive guy but you know you're getting outside leverage here it should be bank
Starting point is 02:22:31 and you're coming back here force this star and let's make a throw right here near the top of this star that's right you did but he went and tried to pivot and push away and this uh seen flat player that slot defender with great vision made a diving interception once again for this dallas defense hey they're they're greedy over there yeah aggressive up front and even even when they rush uh four guys you know they can get after the pass but dan quinn he's been doing you know dan quinn a lot of people knew him for that three deep and what he did with the legion of boom is that the same shit right there he's running he's running completely there he's morphed into much more man coverage they mix in some cover twos they do fire zones, he's running completely. He's morphed into much more man coverage. They mix in some cover
Starting point is 02:23:05 twos. They do fire zones. So he's definitely evolved. And that's because of the talent. That's a good coach. That's a sign of a good coach when you have Diggs, Hooker back there, Donovan Wilson,
Starting point is 02:23:20 Jaron Kers, I believe his name is. You got big, fast, physical players. And obviously, Michael Parsons doing his thing up front as well. Did Hooker play safety before that anywhere? Yeah. Where? All right. Colts.
Starting point is 02:23:35 First round pick, all right? Top 15 pick. Yeah, fuck Ohio State. Is that the answer you wanted? Ohio State. Ohio State University. So, Malik Hooker, hey, he's much better in Dallas. I think that's the perfect fit.
Starting point is 02:23:50 Why didn't he work here? He was hurt? Injuries. He had some injuries. He started off hot. He started off hot. He started off hot. He was, I want to say, like three.
Starting point is 02:23:58 That one-handed pick in Phil Rivers? Yeah. He had, like, three picks in a row. And then he tore his ACL. I think his rookie year. Dirty block. Change the rules. Basketball player, happy he's back.
Starting point is 02:24:10 So this is good offensive play right here from obviously Joe Burrow. He's been getting hot these last few weeks. But as far as the defense, this is our cover two in the two-minute situation, I believe third. Let me switch the page. I like the notes. So, yeah uh two minute and this is second and long second is super long right and what a big coverage that you see a lot in two
Starting point is 02:24:33 minute on defense is cover two and as a cover two defender as a hook curl defender especially in a long yardage situation in a two minute situation you want to play everything top down, right? You're going to get high load a lot as this defender and as these flat defenders out here. Everything is going to be attack. If it's something in front of you, you better believe there's something behind you. So you got T Higgins out here lined at one. You got Hurst here at the tight end position. So we call this spin dig, option dig, whatever you want to call it, but it's basically a high low route And the quarterback is going to be reading this defender. So you let this play. You'll see.
Starting point is 02:25:10 Boom. Pause it right now. So right now, he's taking the cheese. He's taking the cheese right now. And he's going to run this route right behind him. Burrow's going to see this defender that he's reading the cover to. So everybody else is doing their job. He's pushing up.
Starting point is 02:25:24 Middle linebacker, he's pushing to the three receiver side the passing strength he's the hook curl defender me and tone we're talking about cover two uh before bum as soon as he takes up takes that cheese 25 yard completion first time that's a huge chunk play that you don't want to give up in any situation is that me ma that would-M-A? That would be more of an M-E because he was doing his assignment. He was playing hook curl, right? But he just, he reacted to the, I said earlier, like he reacted to the wrong thing. Like that check down, you react to that on the throw.
Starting point is 02:25:57 Are there rules, like how many yards down the field does T. Higgins have to go and run that in before that's not his responsibility? He's not even looking at Tee Higgins have to go and run that in before that's not his he's not even he's not even looking at I know yeah he um I mean and this is a route this route this spin dig a a dagger route like those are cover two beaters and they're going to run these routes because they know everybody's going to call some form of cover two in two minutes so for him he should have his eyes on the quarterback and just continue to get depth. Like this is running back. This is the other hook
Starting point is 02:26:28 curl defender up top. You can see he gets a reroute and then he continues to get depth. So reroute's the receiver which safeties always love. Both of these guys get rerouted. And look how much deeper he is than him. So if he's as deep as this guy, Joe Burrow's not throwing that. He's going to throw it to
Starting point is 02:26:44 Hurst and then these two guys should rally and vice tackle that and get him on the ground, and then you line up and play again on this side of the 50 as opposed to now their next step is at the 41, 42-yard line and plus territory with a minute and some change left in the game. That's Joe Burrow, though, incredible read, right? Good read. I mean, that's a simple read.
Starting point is 02:27:02 That's day one, two-minute stuff for that hook curl defender and for his quarterback looking right i know where the sticks are right d but he's got to know the sticks like i'm not breaking down on anything until they that ball is out of the quarterback's hands because you know this is exactly what they want yep soon so soon literally soon as he's just looking at that defender as soon as he knows he already knows where he's throwing his balls nowhere nowhere else for him to look. So he's looking right at this underneath the fender hook curl, boom, step into it. And I know most dig rocks want to be completed two yards outside that hash. And that's literally exactly where he throws his ball. You said every team uses cover two in the two minutes?
Starting point is 02:27:37 Most. Is that just the go-to? Yeah, because you want to make them go the long, hard route. You don't want to give up big chunk plays. And at some point, sometimes let's say they need three points at the end of the game and they got plenty of time maybe you get more aggressive you got to send some pressure you got to play some tighter coverage but this is uh two minute before the half so two minute before the half even if they do get points you want to make it three you don't want to give up chunk plays that's what you
Starting point is 02:27:59 want to eliminate in two minute chunk plays you know make them complete a bunch of eight yard catches uh down the field. You don't want to give this play up. So this would be a MA right here. Now, if he just blitzed or if he just ran out and played like a buzz flat instead of a hook curl, that would be an ME. That would be like, hey, what the fuck were you doing? This is more of you can coach this up.
Starting point is 02:28:18 Hopefully he learns from this, like, all right, he got me. Now you won't get me again. Fool me once. Yeah. Shame got me. Now you won't get me again. Fool me once. Shame on me. To A-Rod's point, this guy, you keep making that type of mistake. Can't be on the field. Can't be on the field.
Starting point is 02:28:33 Can't trust you. Because the other 10. Can't trust you. But you can't say that. It only takes one. Can't say it. You're a bad guy. Bad guy. Bad guy.
Starting point is 02:28:43 Three under. Three deep. Running for the top, please. Trade me if you're not going to blame me. You're a bad guy. Bad guy. Bad guy. Three under, three deep. Running for top, please. Trade me if you're not going to bully me. So this is kind of that gray area, right? So you got three underneath, three deep again on defense. But now we got a little situation here. This is a – I play slot a lot, right, in the league.
Starting point is 02:29:01 And this is something I'll be communicating with my – whoever my three receiver hook guy is. Hey,'s going to be campbell in this situation if these two guys do a quick switch right if he does a cross and he comes out we're going to swap this out because he is relating to number two which is him right now either if he's going to run across or he's going to chase that all the way across and he comes out. You'll see. Let it play. But you'll see he never. So let it go. So, boom, pause it. So now nobody runs with Samuel. Right. So you got him. He's a three receiver and his guy pre-snap is still right here. So he feels like he's in good position. But the safety feels like and I don't know their rules.
Starting point is 02:29:41 Right. So sometimes you're in this fire zone as a seen flat defender. Some defenses, if I get a quick crosser, I'm not chasing that. I'm passing that off. But that pass off has to be communicated. You have to have communication pre-snap. You can't just, you know, anticipate the guy knowing this. Especially if he's showing blitz, he's in the disguise. Hey, 5'9", hey, hey, hey, hey, lurk this, lurk this swap, lurk this switch.
Starting point is 02:30:05 So then when that happens. Lock, lock, lock. When", hey, lurk this, lurk this swap, lurk this switch. So then when that happens. Lock, lock, lock. When that happens. Or you say lock it. Now, if I lock it, I'm running with it. And I'm just going to be in a bad leverage situation. But anything is better than just having a free runner. Because up here, everybody else is cleared out up here.
Starting point is 02:30:17 He's running with his two vertical. He's obviously a one. He's going to the post. Three receiver. He feels like he's still over his uh number three heineke obviously sees the free runner so this is a good play call good execution good read but you can't have you can't have that miscommunication you got two guys right here and neither one of them is covering this guy and then it turns into a big play this is a lot
Starting point is 02:30:38 shallower route but this is the exact same thing that was on everything db week one when justin jefferson was running the crossing route with. Yep, with the crossing route that he dropped. And most of the time it's going to come down to pre-snap communication. So it's one or two things that are happening in the meeting room. Like, hey, you guys got to communicate and get on the same page. And 5'9", you got to run with that. Or, Amos, you got to run with that. You just got to go.
Starting point is 02:31:02 So those are the one or two things. And that's a tough situation. And when he's in that position, whenever you're on the same side with number two and number three, we got to have some type of pre-snap communication. So if that's AJ there and that's me, hey, AJ, alert this swap. And this is probably one of the only routes that is going to happen because if he goes more vertical and push that, he's going to run with it, just like this seam flat defender does up here. What the hell is going on aj but you know what happened a lot of times i know i don't know what their rules may be but if i was in there at that backup position if uh that they're basically creating a
Starting point is 02:31:36 bunch obviously right there into the boundary but if two would go over top of that guy who's like hot to three then we would run with them if he would go underneath like he would here i would have to jump him and take him all the way across the field he replaces with the new two yeah so uh like you like you just mentioned with that bunch because running back so if i'm if i'm if i'm showing up in the a gap he no matter what he's going over top me so that's a lock so that would be a lot from him any so anything, same flat, this is where we were coached in this coverage. This is where I was coached, at least. Anything up and out, I have with this guy. And up will be past my linebacker.
Starting point is 02:32:13 If my linebacker's showing pressure in A-gap, if he comes this high, it's up. But anything up and out. So this wouldn't be up. Up is deep? Up will be vertical. Just running vertical like this, too, is. Deep. Anything deep is up.
Starting point is 02:32:24 Anything up that way is vertical. Past the lineback'm running with yep or out so even if he goes flat right now I'm responsible for that as a seam flat defender right the up will be the seam the out will be the flat now this is a crosser so once again the pre-snap communication is everything here like hey I know my number three because once again that's the first guy i'm looking for the slot defender where's three where's my three three is to me so i know my help is to me as well so i can pass this to my help and we can both have the easy down here this would be easy down if we pre-snap communicate this five now you run with that and then i just play this running back from depth. But, right, this is exactly what we can't have.
Starting point is 02:33:05 AJ, how big of a difference is it that the guy is here as opposed to here in front of him? He's behind him as opposed to in front of him. You mean the backer or the – When he showed up and he's mugging in the A-gap, you know he's going to be over top. But, yeah, it's like D-Butt said, the second they break the huddle and they come to the line, if I'm the three defender,
Starting point is 02:33:23 I'm looking and talking to D, but instantly. Like, hey, what do you want to do? Like, we've already talked about it before the game and worked it, but we're talking. We know, like, I think at least as defensive players, I know I can look at a formation and instantly see how I can be screwed in this and what causes us problems. Yeah, but I remember Fickle talking up until the snap.
Starting point is 02:33:41 Yeah, but Fickle used to ask you questions and you'd go, yeah, I got it. I'll be there. That area. I got it. I'll be there. That area. I got it. It was how he would – how he described matchups. I just – my brain didn't compute. That's all that was.
Starting point is 02:33:51 AJ, is it easier for the linebacker here if he's not mugging up in the A-gap to see this crosser and potentially play it better? But he has to mug because that keeps this guy in, right? Correct. Well, that's his three, though. He knows he can keep – yeah, that's why three though he knows he can keep mitt yeah that's why i'm thinking they didn't have any communication and i guess the amos knows he's thinking he has to run with him if you so yeah if you should know that if there's no communication you got to run
Starting point is 02:34:14 with that all right you you got to take it now that that's bad football this is third and eight this is a money down in the fourth quarter of the game this is third and eight and there's two veterans there's two of their better players. So I wouldn't expect this from those guys. Those guys, they can self-correct and self-coach. But I'm sure he needs to coach them up, too. If they come out on that, and I was the linebacker in there, too, and my three, I know he's probably going to stay in because I'm mugging.
Starting point is 02:34:37 I was like, I'm going to get a big old shot on this dude if he does run across. Oh, champ. Yeah. Yeah. At least slow him up. Try to knock him down. Yep. Slow him up and make him go over there
Starting point is 02:34:46 he goes i mean he goes over the top but this is still you know and underneath right because he only got what two three yards of depth after that you're saying like a hip check type thing oh yeah tony carenti i'm turning hitting him no i'm gonna try to hit him it's before five yeah you can get a good good good chuck on you're using that helmet bing this is seven weeks in, and they're making the same fucking mistakes over and over again. Like, is this stuff correctable, or do you think this is just who they are? This is very correctable. Very, very, very correctable.
Starting point is 02:35:12 Then why haven't they corrected it seven weeks in? This is a tough play, too, though. It is a tough play for the defense. It really is. Well, they say any of those ones that go across are fucking impossible to guard. You've got to hope that these guys get home, right? They put you in peril. Like, whoever is matching those up,
Starting point is 02:35:26 you have to make a decision on the fly sometimes, and it's tough. And this is the gray area. Whenever you're bringing pressure, whenever you're sending five and you're losing one in coverage, it makes it a little more, it's a little more onus on the coverage.
Starting point is 02:35:39 But once again, pre-snap communication is paramount in these coverages. Last one. So quarter, quarter quarter half up here so it looks like we got some type of quarter coverage up here and then we got half coverage down here i believe this is two minutes as well yeah this is second quarter a minute a minute nine left first down but this is a great job by patrick mahomes controlling this deep half safety you could just let this one play and just watch how his eyes hold and widen this safety Great job by Patrick Mahomes controlling this deep half safety.
Starting point is 02:36:12 You can just let this one play and just watch how his eyes hold and widen this safety to give that room to MVS. Because this is a lot of space, right? So, once again, underneath the fender. Two-minute. Sink. Get depth. Come on. Everything top down. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:36:22 Come on, 20. Wake up. Get back. And this is a young player. This is a second-year corner replacing Emmanuel Mosley, who was having an all-pro, pro-ball type year before tearing his ACL, I believe, last week. So this is a young player, but you got to know this coming in.
Starting point is 02:36:37 Play this. I mean, if you're here, that gives me a little more comfort to where, because he's a deep half defender. You're getting a seven route. So I can understand getting that with him, almost coming off that hash, especially with Mahomes. Now he's back to that side. But before this, if you run it back probably half a second. Mahomes is, I mean, the entire time he's looking this direction.
Starting point is 02:36:59 He knows exactly what he's doing. He's giving us that time and more space to set that safety up and run this post route and once again it's another chunk play in two minutes damn so you can't have that so imagine if that safety is able to get a little more depth and have a little more trust in this corner being underneath like if he's if he can be here as opposed to where he is because he's going to continue to widen because once again you're a defender, so you're keying the quarterback on where he's at. So if he's here instead of here, he can probably make this play. Now, he's getting turned around.
Starting point is 02:37:33 That's 100% his responsibility as a quarter safety, right? This is a quarter safety. That's number two running a vertical post. And if you run it back a little bit, just watch this MVS right up here. Like, he does a good job pushing vertical, giving them them a little hint outside and then getting that safety turned around and then obviously you got patrick mahomes who's you know one of the best quarterbacks in the league i believe we got this in the back copy too so that but that's once again as an underneath defender get your debt like look at look at his helmet look at his eyes the entire time is this like
Starting point is 02:38:03 mahomes understanding coverage is more to it like you said a couple years ago? Absolutely. So this is split coverage. This is split safety coverage. So he doesn't care if this is cover two or quarters coverage. He knows it's split safety, and he knows MVS, his speed guy, is in the slot, and he's running a post. So he knows where he's going to be.
Starting point is 02:38:20 He trusts his arm. Bink. I mean, that's a big-time throw. And once again, now their next play is lining up on a 30-yard, plus 30-yard line with a minute left and two minutes. And the guy's not even on the screen until right here. Yeah. That throw.
Starting point is 02:38:34 That's tough. Jesus Christ. It's that whole area. Yeah. And I believe I'm going to put it on the corners because I feel like the corner, you got to, you know, the safety. If you're in that type of situation, that's kind of what you got to do. As is get back, get back, like sit, get back.
Starting point is 02:38:49 We're fucking reroute at this point. Get dead. Like you should be like here with your hips open. Like he's playing quarters up here, but you should damn near be like him. Like, I mean, because we're going to protect everything deep rally. That's the, that's the route. These are the route him. Where's the back him? Like those are the routes. Him. Where's the back?
Starting point is 02:39:06 Him. Like, those are the routes we want thrown to in two minutes. It's a minute on the clock right now. These are who we want to go. We can. Every snap we get, that's one more opportunity for Nick Bosa to get home. That's Chelsea, too. It's impossible for this guy not to.
Starting point is 02:39:18 Yeah, you got to respect that. That's what I'm saying. I understand why the safety did what he did, especially with 15 looking there. But that's a tough sled for post safety and MVS in the slot right there. So this is great execution from the offense. And I think poor execution from this underneath flat defender, this corner down here. And it's a great ball. I mean, you got Patrick Mahomes back here.
Starting point is 02:39:38 If he has protection to get this off, these are the plays he make. This is why he's a, you know, $50 million a year quarterback. I mean, he is just, this is quarterback. He's playing the whole time. Oh, yeah. He knows exactly where he's going the whole time. He knew before the snap what he was going to do. And he knows the guy he's looking
Starting point is 02:39:56 at, too. He knows Travis Kelsey's public enemy number one. So if I stare at him, they've got to respect that. Just give me enough protection, enough time to get back to MDS in the middle of the field. That's that. Big time player. Big brain football right there.
Starting point is 02:40:09 That is. That's big brain football. It's also Andy Reid drawing up. You know what I mean? They've obviously worked this. And I'm not saying Patrick Mahomes didn't figure this out in practice and know that this was going to happen. But this is taking advantage of a defense, utilizing your weapons, and making the most out of it when you need it. Absolutely.
Starting point is 02:40:23 And situational football. utilizing your weapons and making the most out of it when you need it. Absolutely. And situational football. And something that the Chiefs do probably more than anybody else is practice two-minute situations, two-minute, two-minute. I said something on Twitter, I think, last year about just how good the Chiefs are in two-minute. Just watch them.
Starting point is 02:40:36 It's like 50 seconds on the clock, minus 27-yard line, doesn't matter. They just always look very, very comfortable. And then the Honey Badger at that time time who was a chief, he was like, Big Red, we do that every day in practice. It's two minutes. We're doing it every day. And you can see it showing up on film because most games, and obviously this one didn't, but most games come down to a two-minute drive.
Starting point is 02:40:55 Yep. One score games, man. Either the offense getting a position to score or the defense getting a stop. So I think the big thing to take away here, especially in two minutes, that's why situational football is so big, underneath defenders man, play it top down. You reroute him
Starting point is 02:41:11 six yards down the field is irrelevant for us at this point. Five yard route. Yeah, we need you back here. It's a five yard route in two minutes. We need you 15, 20 yards deep as a flat defender corner, especially when you got 87 in the slot, man. So help your safety out so he can potentially help this other safety out.
Starting point is 02:41:29 But this is a tough play and a really good play from the offense and the quarterback. Really good play by you. Thank you, Darius. That was great work. I feel like I got smarter. I got better. I love watching that every single time.
Starting point is 02:41:41 Yeah. That was the two-minute drill, too, where they were calling for a huddle and the refs gave him a timeout instead. Yeah, three two-minute drill, too, where they were calling for a huddle, and the refs gave them time out instead. Yeah, three plays later. If I could, we'd dial it up. Hey, that was really good, D-Bud. Thank you. Thank you, D-Bud.
Starting point is 02:41:52 Appreciate the notes. Appreciate the dedication. Appreciate the time. Appreciate your schedule this fall. Thank you for stopping by today as opposed to a couple days ago that pissed off Boston Connor. AJ, hell of a show out of you today. We appreciate you, buddy.
Starting point is 02:42:06 Hey, appreciate you guys. Great job, D-Bud. It's always fun. I enjoy watching those things. Appreciate you, AJ. It was fun, man. We get smarter, right, I feel like? Hell yeah.
Starting point is 02:42:14 Yeah. I mean, yeah, I've said before, but, like, triggers, plays I've faced, things I haven't thought about in a while, and it's cool to – I love – you know, I'm a nerd for pre-snap communication. I really am, honestly. Huge. And, you you know all this stuff i'm pointing out like this is shit that i've been beat on obviously multiple times everybody has played has taken those l's have not communicated something pre-snap have tried to get a reroute in two minutes and then you look back at it maybe as a you know a eight-year vet you look back at it you know you playing your second year
Starting point is 02:42:43 like what the fuck was i doing So this is more so seeing that, hearing it. I'm sure they're hearing these same things in the meeting room. But when shit's going fast, when it's a minute and nine o'clock, and it's Patrick Mahomes on the other side, maybe you're not thinking about all those things until you get kind of... Experience. Experience brings wisdom, I believe.
Starting point is 02:43:00 Everybody's going to have to kind of get baptized a bit. My takeaway is that this shit's impossible. You guys have no chance back there. Seriously, it's impossible. That's why communication is everything. We've got to be on the same page. I enjoyed a lot of the talk at practice was about talking at practice. Communicate, communicate.
Starting point is 02:43:22 Why aren't you talking? You should be talking. It's huge, man. It is so big, like especially with DBs to linebackers. Like you're working with that. Like a lot of it depends on linebackers on number three SD, but he's relating to three. No matter what the formation ends up as,
Starting point is 02:43:36 I got to be yelling the whole time. Hey, I'm with you. I'm not, I'm gone. I'm not with you. Like you got to know what you have to know what everybody around you is doing. So it's just a lack of confidence normally that kind of keeps people away from communicating? Because you were a mute, right, and you love talking before games.
Starting point is 02:43:49 Is that what it is you think, lack of confidence? I think it's confidence, but it's knowing what the fuck you're doing too. Oh, so a lot of people are like that. Yeah, sometimes, like, for instance, that right corner. You know, this is probably his second or third game getting real action this season. So he hasn't been getting reps with these guys in practice. He probably hasn't been talking to them as much in the meeting rooms. And obviously that stuff, you know, shows up.
Starting point is 02:44:10 So you need it. That's what walkthroughs are for. That's what coaching is for, the meetings. And then, like A.J. said, linebackers communicate with DBs because most times we're in separate rooms. You know, like on Thursdays we would do half our meeting separate and then half our meeting together as a full unit. But depending on the team, maybe sometimes it's just the linebackers meet with linebackers, just DBs meet with DBs.
Starting point is 02:44:32 And then game time comes and you'll be surprised. Sometimes it'll be a fucking linebacker coach throwing the DBs and the DBs under the bus and vice versa. Like that happens more than you probably think. So it really comes down to communication, man, like more than anything. Especially if you're losing. Yeah. There's a lot of this. Yeah, my area.
Starting point is 02:44:52 I have my area. Our guys, we got it right, guys. We got it right, didn't we, boys? Hell yeah. Just like we did on Wednesday, right? Yeah. I don't know about your fucking group. It's interesting.
Starting point is 02:45:02 Yeah. Losing is a real – We're seeing it with Russ. Yeah. You see it literally trickles into everything. It makes everything terrible. That's why you want to be on a winning program. Who will do that in Week 8 tomorrow when we are back live here at the FanDuel Thunderdome?
Starting point is 02:45:16 We'll have a game to chat about, a good one, on Amazon Prime. Hell yeah. Not only do we have Al Michaels and Kirk Herbstreit and Kaylee Hartung and Tanya Gonzalez and Carissa Thompson and Fitz Magic and Whitworth and Richard Sherman. Marshawn Lynch piece is going to be glorious.
Starting point is 02:45:30 We got a fucking game, okay? Lamar and Tom, one and a half point spread. Let's enjoy tomorrow. Let's enjoy week eight. And we can't thank you enough for joining us today. Talks to the table, great work. Tone digs, hammer, done. Starts in about 15 minutes. It's going to be great. All Talks to the table, great work. Tone digs, hammer, done. Starts in about 15 minutes.
Starting point is 02:45:45 It's going to be great. All the boys in the back, fantastic job. Way to deal with the technical difficulties that happened before the show, during the show, and are currently happening right now. And also, big shout-out to Shabam Sharania for all his help. Thank you all for watching. We'll see you in about 20 hours and 33 minutes. Have a good one.
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