The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 773 - Monday Evening Football Recap, PAFL Trade Deadline Day, Aaron Rodgers Tuesday Season 3 Week 8, Jared Allen, In The Trenches With AQ Shipley LIVE From The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: November 1, 2022

On today’s show, Pat, AQ Shipley, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about last night’s Monday Evening Football game, and monitor all the different trades happening today around the league as we approach the trade deadline. Joining the progrum fresh off his induction into the Vikings’ Ring of Honor is future Hall of Fame, one of the greatest pass rushers of all-time, Jared Allen to chat about this Vikings team, his weekend getting inducted into the Ring of Honor, how the league has changed since he retired, and his thoughts on the day he goes into the Hall of Fame (1:18:40-1:36:55). Next, 4x and back-to-back MVP, Super Bowl Champion/MVP, proprietor of his own book club, QB of the Green Bay Packers, Aaron Rodgers joins the show to chat about the Packers’ tough loss against the Bills, if he thinks they have time to turn things around still, his thoughts on the trade deadline, the changes they need to make in practice moving forward, and much more (1:36:57-2:18:45). Later, we go In The Trenches with AQ Shipley as he highlights the best offensive line play of the week (2:30:39-3:09:44). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It is Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, November 1st, 2022. Rabbit, rabbit, this show begins right about now. Football is here and Paffle has wrapped up its week 8 lineup and schedule with a riveting primetime matchup in Ohio just last night on ESPN and ESPN2 with the Manning Brothers. The show last night. Learned a lot about Boomer Esiason, the hardest working man in sports. And obviously the second half of that game was tough for a lot of people to stay awake through. And maybe even the fourth quarter where the Cincinnati Bengals actually scored a couple touchdowns

to make the score look a little bit closer than maybe what the game felt like for its entirety. The Cleveland football team at home on the Elf win 32-13 against the Super Bowl traveling Cincinnati Bengals squad. Now, the thing about the Cincinnati team last year was the reason why they weren't going to win a Super Bowl was because their offense line wasn't good enough. Joey Burrow, who's an absolute stud, had found his number one weapon in Jamar Chase. But for whatever reason, in the playoffs, he got sacked like seven times, eight times, and like nine times. Like consecutively, that's a lot of times being sacked in the NFL, especially in the playoffs whenever you're going to try to win Lambeau and win the biggest title of them all. So everybody thought in the offseason they're going to take care of the offensive line, they're going to be back, they're going

to be great. So then the season starts out. Offensive line was not figured out. Three new pieces, same old shit. Him getting tackled and blown up and sacked and killed and murdered. There was a time where he was like sacked 24 times in the last four games at one point. It was wild. They had to figure it out for a little bit. Last night going against that Miles Garrett-led Cleveland football team's defensive line. How were they going to fare? Didn't seem to do that well. You know, Joe Burrow was taking some hits. There were some mistakes made. And the Cleveland team that has a running back by the name of Chubb are tough to stop.

Now, whenever Deshaun Watson gets back onto that team or whenever he gets to join that team for the first time, as opposed to Jacoby Brissett, who just got a massive win, congrats to Jacoby. Congrats, Jacoby. Honorable. You know, are they going to play like that in all three phases? Is that the team that we're going to see?

I mean, they have a kicker in Cade York who had won from 55 last night that would have been good from like 80 yards if they had to. The defense has the ability to affect games, make big plays against a really good quarterback who was without his number one weapon, so it should be talked about. But I thought Cleveland Browns' team looked good and I thought the game was a little bit of a snoozer, which

seems to be the trend of all the primetime games of the Paffle. Will that change this upcoming Thursday as a team from Philadelphia will play against a team from Houston in football and also in the World Series same exact night? We'll be excited to see how that pans out for the Paffle. Let's talk to the toxic table at Ty Schmidt. We're talking Aaron Rodgers today, obviously, every single Tuesday of the season.

That should be fantastic. But it feels like the year is weird for everybody. Maybe nobody should panic because of how much fucking kind of weird stuff is happening everywhere in the NFL. Does this season just feel like maybe that's the year it's going to be? Because that's why the primetime games are does because the games are being forecasted to be good. Kind of aren't. And the games that maybe we don't expect to be good all of a sudden come out of nowhere and great. It's been a weird year for the NFL as a whole.

And that continued last night. Do you think that makes you feel a little bit better about the green bay packers start yeah i think a little bit i mean because it is cliche to just say you know like hey any given sunday any team can win but we've seen this year like that actually is the case um yeah i mean and the nfc isn't the afc so i think that's the big thing like you we mentioned it yesterday like that are the packers going to win the division probably not because the because the Vikings have such a comfortable lead right now. I don't think it will be panic time. If they lose on Sunday to the Lions,

I think that's when you'll see people really start to panic. Let's not put that. And I get that, but yeah. But the big thing is today is the trade deadline. They need to go get someone today. And I don't know if they will. Now you've got all this stuff coming out about how no one in the defensive room

trusts the defensive coordinator. Bob Domofsky reporting that anonymous sources from the defensive side of the ball do not trust the scheme or the coordinator or the plays that are being called. Not great going into Week 9 halfway through the season. That was via ESPN.com article. Bob Domofsky has reported that there's a declining confidence

in the defensive scheme in what's being called, and it's led to overall frustration with the defense. Another source confirmed that sentiment. So that's not good midway through the season. This is vastly different for the Packers than what's normally happening. A lot of time left, a lot of time to figure it out, just like for the New England Patriots. You steal a win against the Jets.

You feel good about the Patriots this year or no? Yeah, I feel very good, especially in the American Paffle Conference. It feels like those teams that are kind of floating around 7-10 are all right next to each other. The Chargers are there right now at 4-3, and then the Patriots right below them with the Bengals. We're using a lot of names right now. I do feel good.

We got lost in a conversation. We're talking. I said a bunch of names, too. I actually said, do you feel good about the New England football team? But I didn't say New England football team. I said the other team. It's crazy. I said the team name.

It's crazy what is happening in the NFL this year. I'm enjoying it as a fan, but it's been tough to watch. Last night, AFC North battle. Tone Diggs, Pittsburgh Steelers fan, one half a hammer. Done. Cowboys. When you're watching that, you know the Ravens are just running away with this thing, or you have no clue what the rest of the season looks like?

I mean, I don't know if they're good either. Are they? To be fair, the parody in the league is just ridiculous right now. No, that's parody spelled I-T-Y, P-A-R-I-T-Y. What you're talking about is parody, which is how Antonio Brown pronounces parody, O-d-y oh p-a-r-o-d-y okay that is actually news to me i know i was pronouncing around but i thought those were the same words i don't i maybe they were but i think what you're talking about is not the uh the the equality of a league right now or the competition being battled tested across the entire nfl you're

talking about laugh comedy laugh, laugh, parody? Yeah. I thought that was like parody in the NFL. Oh. So you. Hold on. So this started as a, you just want to reference Antonio Brown calling parody, parody. Yes.

But now you just spelled a different word that ends in I-T-Y, and I don't know what that one means. Yeah, but I don't know if I spelled it right, but I do know it's two different words. You did. Two different words. Yeah. I did. You were right. One's parody law, and one is parody in sports. Yeah.

Those are the same word what he just said. Parody is satire-like. It's kind of like similar. Parody is like competitive balance. Those are the same word. So it feels like Antonio Brown's right. Well, yeah, they're certainly pronounced the same. Okay.

Which we can dive into this whole thing in the English language. Why do you park on a driveway and drive on a parkway? That's gold, Jerry, gold. Yeah, the English language is a stupid one. But anyways, I'm happy to learn that you just learned something today, and the parody is very real, it feels like. But in a game like last night, if it's two AFC North Division opponents, I always root for the team that has the worst record so that –

Steelers still have a chance. No, no, no. I just want everyone to be miserable. Hell, yeah. Oh, okay. But it kind of feels like the Paffle. It's kind of like how college football has been the last few years, where it's only like, oh, you're only like, hey, Bama could win,

Georgia could win, maybe Clemson could win. And that's kind of how we feel with the NFL right now. Like the Chiefs could win, the Bills could win, the Eagles could win. Maybe there's a team that sneaks in there. Diners might be able to win. Yeah, that'll get them. Vikings. Vikings seem to have a little bit of a dance.

The Minnesota football team has a chance, I guess. But whenever you, like Philadelphia's a fucking wagon. Yes. We're going into week nine, long season. Joining us now, a man who is part of a lot of long seasons. Do you think the teams are who we think they are right now, or is there a lot to be had? Former Super Bowl winning coach and player, A.Q. Shipley.

Yeah, I think it's exactly what we thought. Nobody clapped. Nobody clapped. I was waiting for it. I was waiting for it. Please clap. I was waiting for it. I was waiting for it.

I was waiting for it. I was waiting for it. Please clap. Have a good day. I think you've had a great morning. I feel like I've been on it. I think you've had. I've been on it.

But we're going into week nine. Do you think this is too early to rule a team out? We could have probably done some stats and analytics on this on how many teams were below 500 at this point or multiple games below 500 who have come back and made it to the playoffs or have made it a run at this whole thing. We could have done that. We apologize.

It just came up in conversation live right here while we're here. But do you think you know a team at this point, or do you think there's room for a lot of change still? I think you have a pretty good feel for what teams are, but I do think with where the league is right now with so many teams. The Paffle. The Paffle, exactly. Right around 500, teams can definitely still climb out of that hole.

I think in years past, the 3 and 5s had no fucking chance, zero, but now we move forward, and I still think, like you said, the Packers have a chance. I still think in a weak division, Tom Brady's team could have a chance. There are still some teams that can climb out of this hole, but I do think the clear-cut favorites are where they are. And they're going to be at the end, you think? 100%.

They're going to be in that final realm in the playoffs, moving on to the second round, fighting for this thing. It feels like everybody feels that way that has a rather large brain about football. Probably get pretty good odds on just betting on all these teams that we know are going to be known to win. Maybe. I mean, that seems like a pretty good little bet we could probably put in there right now. There was a stat, too, because you talked about before

how teams who are going to be in the end start hot and finish hot. Yeah, Lombardi told us that. Yeah. And the last two Super Bowl champions were two and six combined, the Rams and the Bucs, in November. So this month it feels like there might be some shakeup in those bottom-tier teams. And then also, like, you look at the Niners last year.

The Niners lost to the Colts in the rain in San Fran, and then their season's damn near over, it feels like. And then they close out, like, nine and one or eight and two, and then they end's damn near over, it feels like, and then they close out like 9-1 or 8-2, and then they end up going to the NFC Championship. And we can talk about the team that he was on down there in Tampa. It was Tom's first year there whenever they go on to win the Super Bowl. It wasn't until like a week 11 bye week, and then Atlanta was the next week, I think, or Atlanta was the week before or a week after,

where you started instituting more of what I think everybody thought Tom Brady's offense would look like if they were going to have success. A lot more run game, I think. A lot more play action. A lot more it felt like Tom Brady was in control because it took for the bye week for them to really be able to sit down and kind of recalibrate how it would work with Bruce Arians' offense and Tom Brady's 20 years of offense coming in at the same time.

You were in the building. Did it feel like that was the case? And that might be a team that we look at and be like they had a roster though we knew they had a roster they had stars the defense was playing good but that's a team that definitely made a massive change into being uh maybe wild card weekend into a fucking oh this team's gonna win the super bowl right now yeah i mean we were seven and five and we reeled off eight straight it was unbelievable to watch and it was a it was a team that looked like we had no chance. Zero chance. Then we come out

and rate it the first game after the bye and look like a completely different team. We start hammering the run game more. Leonard Fournette starts to play off Lenny. Then Lombardi, Lenny. There's so many teams that can do that, but they got to go. They got to go now.

Now's the time to go. Yeah, I think so. Because it's going to catch up to you, I think, at some point. But there's a couple. What were you going to say? Well, I was just going to say, like, but with that team, though, like, don't you think this Bucs team is much different? Like, it looks like they just don't care.

They don't give any effort. Like, that team didn't look like that. Hey, Warren Sapp was. Oh, yeah. Hey, Warren Sapp cut a promo. Big time. Justified. Well, yeah, I think we've seen it on a couple film things.

Yeah, it's been floating around a little bit. And I think Chuck Pagano even said, like, hey, this dude's not a guy you want to play. Like, this dude is not a guy you ever want to see. Said getting blown 15 yards off the ball and stuff like that. Yeah, Herbstreet said the same thing. Herbie was like, as he was looking at it, he was like, Devin, why do I remember him at LSU or whatever? Was it LSU? Yeah.

Yeah. He said, I remember him at LSU. You did not want to be on the same field as this guy. Now it looks like he's just not playing it. So maybe tonight he'll change or whatever. And I hope he did. But Warren Sapp was loud too about it. I wonder, what do you think fucking happened?

You know what it is? And I didn't know we were going to talk about the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I mean, this man won a Super Bowl with them. So I guess we should talk about them every time you're here. I apologize for that. But if Tom Brady misses 11 days in training camp and then there's other stuff happening, and we've mentioned it a few times and we've talked about it,

AQ, I'll be excited to get your take on it. Don't feel like you have to bury anybody because you never do. And we try not to bury anybody on this particular Paffle show. Goddamn right. Well, unless they deserve it. When we have to. When we have to. I mean, when we have to, we have to.

Well, sometimes, you know, you do speak on the path in a way that shines them in a nice light, but that was before. No, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Stern but fair. You guys were awfully mean to Brett Favre when he was here yesterday. Okay.

That's the difference. Brett Favre was trying to kill poor people, so you kind of have to be mean to him. I guess taking food is a way of killing somebody. Yeah, you can get there. So, I mean mean you could you could get there the way i was killing people because aaron was coming on right i guess you could i guess you could reach to that whole thing but all that is alleged we shall see what brett has to say

on the other side of that even though he was dressed up yesterday but you know when tom brady misses 11 days he has earned that right to do it i think everybody thinks that everybody assumes that everybody knows that it's fucking tom brady tom brady wants to miss 11 days. He has earned that right to do it. I think everybody thinks that. Everybody assumes that. Everybody knows that. It's fucking Tom Brady. Tom Brady wants to miss 11 days. He can miss 11 days. But on the other side, we're still going to have Tom Brady as our fucking quarterback, so we are willing to do this, right?

We're willing to put up with it. Somebody else asked for 11 days off in the middle of training camp. Not going to be granted. Tom Brady, greatest player of all time, going through some stuff, and we assume that some people in the Buccaneers organization know what we all know now at the time was potentially happening so I think the Buccaneers felt obligated to do this for Tom Brady because what Tom Brady has done for them and Tom Brady asked for it so Tom Brady's going to get it so I don't think anybody else could do it or would feel like they could do it but Tom had to do it and the Bucs said you got it because of what

he's done for the Bucs and And also, we still have Tom Brady quarterback. We'll fucking do whatever we need to do to have Tom Brady be our quarterback. So whenever the locker room sees that, the bottom half, I think, of the roster, bottom three quarters of the roster, who are still living and dying, thinking they could get cut every single week, just trying to stack up good plays, trying to get a good money so they can feed the, you know, live off of it with their family, hopefully for however long they can do it. That, that'll, they're not going to change anything, but that, that little area of made men, you know, players that have had success,

have been paid money, their legacy is good. Legacy is good. If they were to not play football anymore, legacy would be, would be good. Whenever they see stuff not play football anymore, Legacy would be good. Whenever they see stuff like Tom miss 11 days and then Tom miss a practice and then Tom potentially do this and Todd Bowles do that, it's natural, I think. And I'm not saying this is what's going on with Devin White. Maybe he would fit said category that I just talked about. I'm not speaking for him. I do not speak to him. So that's not – but maybe you also see it and you're like,

what the fuck's going on? You know, like would I get this same treatment if I was – like that type of stuff can trickle in, I think, and it can affect how people view day-to-day. And that might be what's going on in Tampa and making us all go, that does not look like the team that we think this team could look like. Now, AQ, you have a lot of friends down there. I know a lot of people down there.

Don't feel obligated to speak on this. But that is something that could potentially happen right i mean that is certainly something that could happen with humans happening yeah i think you know at the end of the day it's it's one of those situations where you don't even if you're not saying it out loud it's still gonna it's gonna be in the back of your mind it's gonna creep there it's gonna be like that guy can do that so that means i could definitely do this yeah so I think with that being said, I think also they've had some injuries. I think they had some guys who were leaders in that group, Lee, Sue, Pierre, Paul, guys that hold other people accountable, and you hope that the rest of the guys are able to do that.

And that's one of the situations where even if it is creeping there, you hope the other groups are holding their rooms accountable and reeling everybody in, but it's still a tough situation. You hope so. I mean, it's just – and Tom has earned this. Tom is able to do this, and Tom had to do this. So I'm not saying, like, Tom's to blame for this either. Like, hey, this is – that's a tough situation to go through. And if Tom wants to play football, there's going to be a team in the NFL

that's going to want Tom Brady to be their quarterback, and Tampa has his rights. Tampa's going to want Tom to be their quarterback as well, so anything he has to do, they're going to do to get there. But I think there is some lingering effects that potentially happen whenever that type of stuff starts taking place. Now, you've talked about the voting for this and how it goes, and Warren Sapp referenced the C on his chest a lot yesterday. Does that mean anything in the NFL?

Does the C on the chest mean anything? I think depending upon where you're at. There's definitely rigged voting things that happen around the NFL. We've all probably seen it, heard a story or two about it. But I think there's some places where the culture is very real, and it's pretty well defined on who the captains are. So I think that's a situations or situational type thing. I'd agree 100%.

You've been on a lot of teams, a lot of programs. There's a lot of teams that are trying to make a guy to be the captain. Well, yeah, especially if you have a young quarterback, right? Like, you're going to force him to be a captain, whether or not you look at him like that or whether or not he is. He's naturally that. Yeah, exactly. How do you feel about that, by the way?

Because I think quarterback is a position where you have to be a leader, but there are some quarterbacks that are not the cliche movie quarterback motivating type guys. There's guys that just aren't good leaders that are quarterbacks. They are incredible players. They can play the position well, but they don't have the natural, innate, open leadership quality that I think everybody would expect. Do you think you need that?

I don't. I don't think so either. Yeah, I mean, two guys. Because you've got good offensive line. Yeah, I mean, I'll mention two guys specifically, Larry Fitzgerald and Paul Puzlesny. I played with both those guys. They were captains everywhere they ever been,

two of the greatest players ever. Puzlesny's neck. Oh, my gosh. It was this big, wasn't it? It was fucking this big. Huge. But neither of them would say a word. They did not say words.

But, man, you watch the way they work. You watch the way they came to practice. You watch them take care of their bodies in early, out late, doing all the right things, and you're like, oh, that's a professional. That's the guy I want to follow. Yeah, I think that's the style of leadership. I think there's a lot of different styles of leadership, but I think there are times where the organizations or programs

are trying to get one person to be thought of by his teammates as a vote. So they'll have the vote, you know, and then it'll be like, oh, everybody's seeing what we're seeing. Yeah, we thought. Put it up there. And then there's, in the cafeteria, there's conversations like, okay, listen. We all love everybody here. Did you? Nobody voted for that guy. No chance.

Right? Nobody? Okay. Okay. I didn't think so. Now we know. So we know this is not a democracy. We know that. So we will participate. But also, that seems like a bunch of bullshit to me. But I think other situations, it's very real. I think coaches in the front office kind of take it in, and they're like, yes, this is exactly how this whole thing goes.

But it's all trying to motivate. You're all trying to motivate the team to buy in however you can in the voting for the captain process or the giving out of the captain process that's just like i think another recognition to the players about how much appreciation has and like we it's just all everybody's trying to get everybody to fucking buy in at the end of the day that's literally all justifying too right yeah a lot of times it's about justifying hey we drafted this guy early we need him to be a leader even though he's not like the biggest leader we're gonna put a c on his chest bam we did it a leader. Even though he's not, like, the biggest leader, we're going to put a C on his chest. Bam, we did it. Boom, he's walking out.

He's not – It doesn't even say heads or tails. He doesn't really like doing that type of thing, talking out there. Right. Well, we're going to have to have him fucking stand away from the ref then. What are we even talking about? Yeah, I mean, it's an interesting situation. I'm one of the guys that absolutely hates –

I mean, NFL Films puts all those, you know, the pregame speeches, right? Don't say what you're about to say. Paffle Films. Paffle. Paffle Films. You clown. Even though we have a deal with them. puts all those, you know, the pregame speeches, right? Don't say what you're about to say. Pathful films. Pathful. Pathful films. You clown. Even though we have a deal with them. Technically, yeah.

For now. For now? You think they're going to cancel it? No. Not them. I know. I was actually thinking about that yesterday, and I was like, so much better.

Yeah. So expensive. So much better. Yeah, I was going to say, paid in full. Too late now. Paid in full. Yeah, he can't. You think they're coming after us about logos.

You think they're going to let us back out of that deal? No way. Not a chance. We'd have to pay more, probably, to not use them. Double it, and then we'll go our separate ways. Once again, it's awesome to cover your league. We are very, very, very thankful for it. Yeah, some captains aren't actual captains.

I don't want to break kayfabe here. It's kind of rude of us to do that. Some of those Cs are bullshit. And I assume in a lot of sports, some of the Cs are bullshit. And there's politicking that is involved in everything, in every aspect of life. And we just have to understand that as reality and take it as it goes. Well, and I don't know where Devin White falls in this category, but when the guy next to him is also a captain,

like Levante David is the vet of that linebacker room. He's been there when they stunk, and now he's there when they're good. Is he the one that you kind of look forward to? The rooms, policing your rooms is a big deal. Yeah. Right? It's a huge deal. Policing your rooms is a big deal. Yeah. Right? Policing your rooms is a big deal.

So that would be kind of on him. Are they trying to force Devin White into the next Levante David of the Bucs? I don't know. I have no idea. I'm not in there. Yeah. What do you think? I'm not in that room either. Oh, you. Remember, he would tell that one guy. Wouldn't tell us. Yeah.

Rich Ornberger. Mike Floria told me that AQ told Rich Ornberger. Yeah, Mike Florio told me that AQ told Rich Ornberger. Saving all your best content for Fumbled Snap. Wow, the bobbled exchange. We are. Great show.

Come on, Rich, we are. Hey, how was Penn State? We good? Tough week. No, you guys fucking stink. It was close. It was almost as bad as that pit game it was close let's start you're talking about west virginia my pit game no i'm talking about pit losing to north carolina by three touchdowns hey north carolina drake may is a guy drake may is a guy

quarterback for unc is a guy he's from pittsburgh he's a Duquesne fan. There's a Pitt fan back there. I know there's a Pitt. He was shooting that through you to him. Exactly. Ah, who cares? Pitt football, that's how a lot of people feel, which is rude because Narduzzi's got like $30 million for somebody to call it a head coach. It's a pro time.

They won the ACC last year. Okay? That's a big deal. Love you, Kenny. Nobody goes to the game. Kenny's gone. Slobodan's not getting it done. Who's Slobodan? Slobodan Milosevic. They also lost, is that Nobody goes to the game. Kenny's gone. Slobodan's not getting it done. Who's Slobodan?

Slobodan Milosevic. They also lost – is that Slobodan? Yeah, Jordan Madison. Slobodan Milosevic. Oh, he's from USC or something like that. They got rid of Mark Whipple. Whipple ran the offense that was an electrifying offense. Yeah, and he's having a lot of success at Nebraska, so that's –

True. College football has been fun to dive into this season. This weekend, I guess, is supposed to be a fucking movie. I guess down in Athens it's supposed to be. Between the Hedges? Yeah, is that what it is, right? I believe so, yeah. I can't wait to get down there.

They're saying it's going to be, because the rankings officially come out tonight at 7 p.m., I guess, on ESPN. Reese, Herbie, Bear, Pollock. First ones, right? Who else? officially come out tonight at 7 p.m i guess on espn reese herbie bear pollock first ones right who else i don't know who else is on there but that show gets talked about in every production meeting because on air if you've heard me and des talk about that show des said it was on wednesday one time on live on game day next next production meeting, Des was reminded like, that show's on Tuesday. So I immediately heard that and Des heard that. I was like,

oh, somebody was, you know, like, hey, if we're going to talk about it, let's make sure it's right. So now we talk about it like in a very open conversation

because it has become a conversation. Those production meetings are awesome. They are, there's a lot of energy in there. Herbie's throwing things out there. Jimmy G's throwing stuff. He's the, he's obviously the, I don't know what his fucking title is.

Not that Jimmy G, though. Not that Jimmy G. The other Jimmy G. Those meetings are awesome. But anyways, show's on Tuesday. Okay. Not on Wednesday. Good to know.

Show's on Tuesday at 7 o'clock on ESPN. It's a big topic of conversation amongst the show. And it is. I watched it last week. Gave me so much information on everything. They literally just, like, 20 minutes, break down everything, all their thoughts. Everybody that studies college football for a living, full time,

they lay it out. Tonight is the first rankings, so it's a big deal. We don't know if it's going to be 1-2, 1-3, 2-3, down in Georgia, but it should be an electrifying weekend. Now, in the NFL, there is some breaking news holy shit cut off the college football story to tell talk about the paffel it is trade deadline tuesday november 1st 2022 there's three hours in 35 minutes left in the trade window for the NFL. And we have a big one.

The Detroit Lions are trading TJ Hawkinson to the Minnesota Vikings from Adam Schefter per sources. TJ Hawkinson, obviously, tight end out of Iowa, an absolute stallion for the Lions, a great player, a pillar player, a person you'd want to build around from how hardworking he is. His personality. His talent. His ability to get open in a situation in which it seems like will always be doom and gloom.

He goes from the gray and blue to the purple and gold. He goes from outhouse to six and one penthouse. from outhouse to 6-1 penthouse. He is now a member of Kirk Cousins, Justin Jefferson, Adam Thielen, Dalvin Cook's offense with Kevin O'Connell pulling the strings. Congrats to the Vikings, and congrats to the Lions for letting all their fans know exactly where we are this season. Unbelievable. Wow.

That's awesome. In the division. Vikings. In the division. Our only fucking good player. What are we doing? In the division. Top ten pick in the NFL draft.

Fuck it. We're sending him. In the division. Hey, we want to see. You know what? If we're trading him, we want to see him twice. Yeah. So fucking stupid.

Just so he can come home all the time. Twice a year. We want to see this guy. Wow. So fucking stupid. Just so he can come home all the time. Twice a year, we want to see this guy. Wow. I wanted them to pay us. I think it's a second and three-fourths maybe or something. Oh, okay. If you're going to find it. Great.

Hey, future's bright. That's a good draft pick. I'm sure they'll be great. Okay, so let's go to the last two drafts for the Detroit Lions. Oh, my God. And let's go directly to their second picks, which would probably be good, and their fourth-round picks, and let's just see what could potentially be coming in return.

That's right. St. Brown was a fourth-round pick. There we go. Good ball player. You guys find good quality in the fourth. What are we doing, though? We're trying to build a team. This is a great young core piece, a very, very, very fucking good tight end

that has never caused any problems and has only experienced losing in his entire time there. Stafford, his main quarterback, gets traded out of there, doesn't bitch, doesn't say a word, and now the team sucks last year, sucks this year. Fuck it. We'll send him on his way, even though we are building a promising young team that would have been great with TJ Hawkinson on him, should have paid him, and then we could have had an awesome core moving forward

with probably a new quarterback next year in this draft because we're going to have a top three pick. No, fuck it. Send him in the division. He's going to score a touchdown against us every single time we play the Vikings. I promise you. Take the bet now. Anytime touchdown scorer, TJ Hawkinson against the Lions.

It will happen every fucking time. Sorry about that. Sorry about that. That is absurd. Tom Pelicero is confirming the Lions are sending TJ Hawkinson to the Vikings. Sources tell him and rap. Okay, so Shefty was told,

Ian was told, and Tom was told. Okay. Was it a group text? You think they're all in one group text? Yeah, three-man job. That'd be awesome. That'd be awesome if all the insiders are all in a group text. Like, all the work you do is just to get into the group text. And then once you get into the group text, you just get the same messages. Yeah, it's like when you're in insurance and you get residuals.

For the rest of your life. Minnesota sends a 2023 second round pick and a 2024 third round pick to Detroit. For Hawkinson, a 2023 fourth round pick and a 2024 conditional fourth round pick. That's a good haul. Hold on. Detroit sucks. Hold on. All right.

So literally, as I'm reading that, I'm thinking, no way. Minnesota will send a 2023 second-round pick and a 2024 third-round pick to Detroit. In return, so a second and a third. One next year, one, two, in return, they get TJ Hawkinson a 2020 third fourth round pick in a 2024

conditional fourth round pick, probably upon playing time or how everything else goes. Second round pick, though. Hey, you get a second round pick. Second and third, that's awesome. I mean, great. Good job, guys. Three words, right, Foxy?

Yeah, like, literally. Same old lines. That's tough. I mean, that's tough. I mean, that's tough to sell tickets. Do you think they have it? Now on the flip side. To hell with what they're doing.

I agree. Okay? And, you know, it's going to work out. This is our decision. These draft pick trades are unbelievable. Fuck these picks. Well, that's because's because like that's how we view it like in comparison to we actually got a good haul to all these other fucking trades that are happening but still fuck these picks second rounder is pretty good i guess second to third no other teams gave up tj hawkinson though is also a uh i mean this is a game changer think about him going to the

fucking vikings now so the vikings at the tight end position they had big country there for a while right yeah kyle rudolph yep long time he was there for a long time did they get somebody after kyle rudolph i have earth smith there now he was hurt last year i believe yeah just got hurt again high ankle right i think so he was a second round pick a couple years ago okay so here we go so now you just dropped t.j hawkinson into the mix on top of the dalvin cook adam thielen justin jefferson offense and everything they got cooking with the way they draw plays and the way they draw people open this is a home run right i mean i feel like there's a home run for the vikings and if you win

a super bowl who gives a fuck about any of the draft picks the vikings are one of those teams that i think the national, powerful fan base is going to have to just buy into the fact that this is. The Vikings are a fucking wagon right now. They are loaded, too, with weapons. They have a very good team. Vikings tight end Irv Smith Jr.

suffered a high ankle sprain on Sunday versus Cardinals and expected to miss multiple weeks. Minnesota now lands a tight end TJ Hawkinson. This is another great example of a team realizing like, hey, we are in our window right now. We can win. This entire NFC, interesting. The entire NFL, a lot of weird shit going on. We have a good team. We have enough weapons. We feel like everybody's bought in. We're also trying to set a tone for a culture, for the fan base to know who we're

going to be hey it's trade deadline day we just lost a piece of our offense we're going to fucking replace that and when they're both back in five six weeks from now just waiting till you see what we do this is a home run for the vikings in my eyes and victor the viking yet again wow gets to come swinging his big fucking hammer all over the internet doing skull chants in parking lots because the vikings are going all in the vikings are loaded and the vikings are a team that are doing everything that we love they're creative on offense they're saying fuck these picks let's go win they're paying people fucking hey let's go vikings yeah not only is hockinson supremely athletic and a great

receiver but like he's in that kiddo mold like he will absolutely help their run game yeah yeah nasty nasty blocking loves putting guys down and this just reiterates like packers got to fucking do something you can't watch something like that happen with the team even though but two teams in your division are making moves today yeah now it's each other, and one team got much better than the other one. Right, yesterday. People are open to business in the NFC North, not the Packers just yet. AQ, your thoughts on TJ Hawkinson going to the Vikings and what this means for that Vikings run game that Ty just pointed out,

and also that Vikings team as a whole? I think it's huge for the run game, but most people that understand the play-action game, the tight end is key. The over routes, the seam routes, this is a monster get for them. He's going to be able to do all the stuff going back across, cutting the D ends off on the backside, help at the point of attack, and then the play-action game is huge.

Huge pickup. He's a good player, right, Foxy? He's awesome. He's so good. I'm so happy for him. It really is a perfect fit because he is a great pass catcher, but he blocks the hell out of everyone. He's the eighth overall pick.

Yeah, dude. He's awesome. Just another tight end that we've taken to the top ten. Shout out to Ebron. Yep. Whoa. What are you talking about? That was the other tight end.

Gresham. Eric. I think Jermaine was the first round. First round, yeah. Kyle Pitts. Kyle Lee. Have the Vikings played a primetime game yet? Yes, they got blown out by the Eagles in Philadelphia

and Kirk threw those two picks to Darius Slay. And it turns out the fucking Eagles are undefeated. They are unbelievable at football. I mean, how does this happen in the division and nobody else had even thought that Hawkinson was on the block? Like, we've been talking about the trade deadline for a week, two weeks, and Hawkinson never came up. The rumors were there a little bit.

I saw a couple things that he might get moved and he said all the right things during it all. He said on the Motor City blog. How come we're not seeing any of this? How come we're not seeing this? Foxy, don't be greedy with this information. Between the division though, how often does this happen? Do they have to tie MCDC down to make this happen?

Because I assume he didn't want to. I was wondering if he was going to play tight end. Yeah, true. He might have. He still might. Maybe that's why they traded him. Now, you never root for an injury or anything like that. Good timing, though, for the Vikings tight end to get an injury.

Because if it happened next week, they probably wouldn't have made this move, right? Maybe? I don't know made this move, right? Maybe? I don't know. I think, yeah, I think this is a perfect time trade deadline window for the Vikings. Who else? Was McNabb? Was he the last when he went from Philly to Washington?

Sure. Well, I mean, Ravens and Steelers. It happened this year with the Dolphins and Patriots as well. Yeah, but I don't think it's like stars. Not normally. Not adoring. A massive piece like that. Yeah, so maybe McNabb.

Maybe the last massive name. Then Favre. Yeah. Just talking football. I swear there's no jab to come with that. Yeah, but he went from the Jets. Yeah, he went to the Jets first. Okay.

In the division, get the fuck out of here. We're sending picks back, too. Well, maybe Dan Campbell's like, who gives a shit? Because I know I'm probably going to get fired at the end of this year. Hey, what if this is like the opposite of the Calvin Johnson curse? He's like, I actually want you to go live. Yeah. I see a lot of myself in you, man.

Get out of here. Go do good, man. Get out of town. That's what they did with Stafford. Go do good, man. Yeah, I can see that. We myself in you, man. Get out of here. Go do good, man. Get out of town. That's what they did with Stafford. Go do good, man. Yeah. We appreciate your sacrifice, man. Don't be like me.

No. Get fucking out of Detroit, man. We'll trade you anywhere. Go to Minnesota. You're going to go to playoffs this year, man. Win a ring for me, man. Come here. Yeah.

Is that what happened? That makes the most sense. I'm sure this isn't sitting well with MCDC. Yes, but he would have to be in it, right? Because remember, two alphas, you know. That's right. Him and Holmes. Yeah.

He goes, Sheila, don't do this, man. You think, yeah, what happened? I wish Hard Knocks was there now. Yeah. Maybe the Detroit Lions social media team will give us the ins and outs. That's pretty good. They'll give us something. Yeah, hopefully just. When he was traded, when AQ was traded, Chuck had to address it to the team.

Like, I wonder how MCDC's addressing it. Yeah, Chuck traded me. Chuck Pagano? Chuck Pagano. Have you guys talked ever since? And Gregson. They signed him four times, traded him one time. It was awesome. He got the full gamut.

How'd he trade you? A little rollercoaster ride for a couple years. Because he played football good. What's that about? You were blocking the big oozes and you couldn't... I had a good year in 12. You did? Yeah. Remember that Cleveland game you came in? That was 14.

Oh, fuck. Well, came in, we came back. That was a good year, too. That was a good game, too. Had a good game that game, and then guess what happened the next week? Well, he wasn't dressed the game before. No, it was the next game. You weren't dressed the next game?

Yeah, it was the next game. Yeah, he wasn't dressed the next game. Yeah, it was awesome. I was like, what the fuck's going on? It feels like there's something going on here. Something going on here? It feels like something's going on here. Were you playing center or guard?

Center. Really good. Who was playing center? Good dude. I enjoyed dude. Really good. Who was playing center? Good dude. I enjoyed dude. I enjoyed. Which one? Who's?

Soteli. Loved him. And then in 14, it was who? Harrison and Collin Holmes. Jonathan Harrison was the guy that I thought maybe if he's not going to play, put him on the punt team. I want him on the punt team. What are you talking about?

Who? Well, what year are you saying? We were at your house. We saw their heads on the dartboard that I want him on the punt team. What are you talking about? Who? Well, what's Yuri saying? We were at your house. We saw their heads on the dartboard that you have in your garage. No. That is an uncomfortable position. But, you know, AQ, how many transactions did you have throughout your? By the end, 20-something.

Damn, like Skip in Detroit. Think about him being told, what's that? Like Skipper, the guy from Detroit who they were all happy about. Oh, Skip. Skip. Skip. Yeah, the guy from Detroit who they were all happy about. Oh, Skip. Yeah, the guard. Guard Skip. Is he getting traded? I was going to say, he better be looking over his shoulder. We cannot trade Skip.

Well, if MCDC's talking like that to TJ, he's definitely talking like that. Man, Skip, man. How do you address the team after something like that? That's like Chuck basically said, because he had been playing good. He had been playing really good football. And then he just gets traded. And then he wasn't dressing for games before then.

So he wasn't dressing. Then he plays. Plays good. Then he gets traded out of town. Everybody's like, what the fuck? What's going on? I feel like we've got a team that can maybe win a Super Bowl. We had a fucking really good team.

And it felt very, very interesting the way it was all going. But Chuck was just like, hey, he had to address the entire thing, and he just moved on to the next day. Put the blinders on. Blinders on, yeah, trust the process, that type of speech. But in his words, it was that genre of speech, though, like, hey, you got to have faith. We had a good team. It made no sense. Still doesn't make any sense.

But in the NFL, that fucking shit happens. 20-some times this guy's been cut traded. Was it better for you, AQ? Did it work out better for you? Yeah, it was huge because I went to Baltimore, and the big question early in my career was that I couldn't play guard. I was short. I had short arms, this, that, and the other.

I started 13 games at guard. What? That year that I went there. And so from that point forward, if I wasn't a starter, now teams viewed me as a backup swing. I could play both. So it was huge for my career moving forward. How'd that year end?

In Baltimore? Yeah. We double-pass for my career moving forward. How did that year end? In Baltimore? Yeah. We double-passed New England Patriots. You lost. How did the locker room take the Chuck Pagano speech? Oh, dear. Seriously, though. How was that received?

Because if you're on the team, are you just, you know, oh, okay, our year's over? It was after practice. It was after practice. It was after practice. It was on the field. So it's like end of day. So everybody just kind of goes home on it the next morning. Everybody's like, you know, it is what it is.

Yeah. Chuck is saying that because Chuck has to say it. You know? Everybody else in the building is just like, ah, this business. One guy said, wrong guy. Wrong guy. That guy's still coaching in the NFL. Halfle.

Sorry. Canvel, sorry. Can't call it. Isn't that crazy they're making us do that? It's unbelievable. We can say NFL. We can. And we can say the team names. Can't be on a graphic.

No, no, no. Don't even fucking think about it. Don't put it on a graphic. I could show you the highlights from last night. Can't pause the highlights. Because if we pause the highlights, you know what it looks eerily similar to? A graph. A photograph.

It kind of looks like a graphic it's interesting isn't it that's unbelievable isn't it an interesting question pause huh i got a question no we can yeah but it's just like that's my counter to them like well i can play i love that move i can play film yeah if we made the graphic you love that i love that move yeah so i can what if i pause it is that not a graphic there's a score at the bottom of it. There's players on the field. Yeah, logos. Well, you have footage rights.

It's like, okay, so we should start asking ESPN, who we have a relationship with now, if we could start adding things in the middle of the broadcast for a half a second like people do on Instagram to put as the cover. You know what I mean? Because then we can get the footage from them, and then we can pause it on a graphic that looks like a professional show, which we try to be.

That's where we paid millions and millions of dollars to get footage rights and try to do that, you know, try to do the whole thing. So is that what we have to do? Is that the next thing? We need it for a 150th of a second, not even just put it up there real quick. Dirty's graphic, put it up there, a little bit of a spread thing in there for us. Put it in the fourth quarter when the game's about over. Just put it there at the end because we can get the footage rights.

We can get that. And then we just pause it on the screen. So then we have our own graphic on the screen. And we have to do that through ESPN, even though we have a deal with NFL. Who ESPN? Okay. It's kind of ass backwards that makes sense doesn't it yeah why would they do that why would they even make me think of that type of thing right there why what's what's the deal what did what do we do to the pathel I don't know what did you do to the pathel I know yeah yeah dude handing out concussions oh yeah you were in that Will Smith lawsuit.

Yeah, you're the wedge buster. What? Why? Why? Where am I? I don't know. Stop. I don't know where I'm at.

Don't do that. Don't do that. But it's real. We would just like a good answer from the PAFL. And I believe a conversation is set up this week with the PAFL on how we can fix the whole thing and right the whole thing. I'm assuming there's no ill intent from a large majority of the people that are currently having to hear from me about this and from us about this situation. There's just somebody. There was just one, you know.

There's a turd in the punch bowl somewhere. Yep. How do we find them? Well, that's, I put some, I mean. 3-1-7 Washington. I feel like I ask good questions. I feel like I ask good questions in response that, you know, aren't taught in the schools I think that they all go to.

So I feel like I get a pretty good – because I would like to know why. Like why are you picking this to go against us? Is it another network that has gotten a hold of this person and said, hold on, are they doing, is it the league itself? Is it somebody from within the league? Because we said something about their team and maybe they don't get along with the owner of the team that I'm really tight with. And did they tell somebody, be like, hey, let's make sure we check everything that's

going on. Are they just trying to make our lives worse? Trying to make it harder for us to do our job? Who is it? You know, that is a question that I would like to know because to sniff that out as like a tiny little – like I get what they're saying. If we were to not have a deal with the PAFL at all and weren't paying them $4.5 million, okay, if we weren't doing that, I would understand why they're like, it feels like you're stealing a lot of our shit. You know what I mean? And we're kind of make up your show.

I feel like us doing that wasn't only just for the rights that we're using uh the footage that we're using but it was also like uh hey i hope we can you know i hope you guys see that i'm willing to do i would like to do business with you guys so for them to pick out something like that for me as somebody and you know i've got to read the resume in the moment because we're talking about the league that is currently trying to do what they're trying to do right now in this entire conversation i mean i was like waltz pe Payton Man of the Year for Indianapolis. I was a Salute to Service Award finalist. I'm a nominee for their fucking Hall of Fame play date years and have one of the shows that is pretty large that covers basically just their league.

It's an advertisement. Year-round. Year-round. So I don't understand at all why this is something that they would want to do. So to your question on who it is, I'm trying to, this is not like, oh, who's trying to fuck me over there? Like, that is a... Legitimate question.

That is a real thing, yeah. And I don't know if everybody always wants to find out. I do. I like to find out those types of things because I'm like, oh, okay. So I know that you are a person that I should never, ever interact with, do business with,

and also look for in the future for any other type of businesses I do. So I'm learning as I go here. We appreciate the Professional American Football League. Of course. We love covering the Professional American Football League. We feel like we have brought some things maybe to the league in a benefit. And us doing business with you is just going in a ridiculous way. And that is just so stupid. And if we potentially change some things in how relationships go forward with the digital age with the national football league and how every social

media platform there's a billion dollar deal that nba just did with a streaming platform i don't know if it's going to be which one how it's going to go but that's a billion dollars you look at what amazon's paying for social media is going to be not that far behind they're saying there's going to be a game i I mean, would anybody be surprised if Elon Musk had a game on Twitter? Nope. No. No, not at all.

Elon Musk, why would he do that? I don't know, because he wants the fucking Alpha Bezos. Like, that's just what these bazillionaires want to fucking do to each other. Whatever they want to do, they can do, and they have so much money. Musk was able to just buy Twitter.

Yeah. Just fuck it. Yeah, 40-something. Fuck it. And then still be top 10 rich human on earth. Like, it is the money. So I think the NFL, the PAFL, is going to have to cross all these bridges at some point with social media, with what is monitored, what's not monitored. We pay for a piece with NFL Films.

We can't post it on Twitter. But I've seen 14 other accounts post our shit on their Twitter accounts that, you know, we follow, we appreciate, we like those people. They can put it all up. We cannot put it up. It's just like a very, but I feel like we, I should have seen this coming whenever we engaged in the conversation to begin with though. Like we're the first ones, right? Remember it was a big deal yeah first show independent show on social that the nfl films has aligned with the footage so i probably should have more patience with it all but i think we're all thinking the same thing like how can you be and they just have no fucking idea some people just have no fucking idea i think and that's that's what we're learning at every

single genre of life you get a peek behind the curtain at pretty high-end places and you're like oh okay they don't have a fucking clue either all right it's actually kind of inspiring and motivating for me it's been like all right if that person can do it i could fucking go do it but it is something that we're gonna have to work through i think it's some positions not everybody by the way but at some positions in the end i mean maybe you should have seen it coming but also like just to go back to the point like we're halfway through the season so it's just incredibly obtuse to just out of nowhere be like, hey, you can't do this anymore. You just can't do this anymore. Obtuse is such a good word to use.

We're smart too, lawyers. You hear that? Like an angle. You hear that, dude? It just makes no sense. You said like an angle, yeah. Almost like you had parody and parody. Exactly.

A cute sense of listening. Like an angle. Oh, man. What's Yangle? What's Yangle? What's Yangle? Good movie. We also did movie breakdowns,

and we'll start doing more of that if we have to, Paffle. Okay? Especially if he's games. Yeah, he's probably not getting his fucking sake in hockey. You know, it's heating up,

and we all got teams in the race, too. Yeah. Or most of us, rather. Let's talk about some other stories around the NFL. Let's not go into hockey just yet. Yeah, you're right.

Maybe later today. Sure. Maybe tomorrow. Save it for tomorrow, Wednesday. That's Hockey Talk, youtube.com forward slash that's Hockey Talk. Boom, boom. Oh. You see what we just did there?

Remember that, AQ? That's a good plug. Yeah, AQ, you quit on that show, right? Good plug. This guy used to be a host of that show. Yeah. I said, no, I don't want to host it. Oh, I've got to eat dinner. Stuff like that. Yeah. And I said, no, I don't want to host it. Oh, I gotta eat dinner.

Stuff like that. Yeah. He does gotta eat dinner. Five of them a day. I do. I need to eat dinner. No, you look good. It's the black. I love the beard. I do the same thing. Yeah, the beard looks great. The beard is awesome. I grew the hair out and the beard because I took four fucking slices out of my head this week when I banged it off

a wall. It's a big gaping hole on your head to go to what Ty asked. Is that Glazer from Fight Club? That's a Jay Glazer over here. Oh, that's from Fight Club. Yeah, it is. Oh, AQ's doing this whole number. Oh, I'm growing my beard. I'm growing my hair.

Oh, kind of dug his head around a little bit. And Jay's like, oh, yeah. AQ, you want some? Want some of this? One for the right, pal. and you just fucking didn't watch for that yeah you ate it you should have watched for the right with your eyes instead of the top of your head yep lightning quick aq too slow how long were you unconscious i don't know dude i'm telling you it hurt it bleeds every freaking day i'm telling you like every day like i do something and there it is. It's bleeding again.

Is it bleeding again? They got much darker red. Is redder a word? Sure. There are plenty of words today. More red. Redder is not a word. I just learned. Reader is though. We're good ones.

Let's talk about some other stuff that happened around the NFL. The Bears trade Roquan Smith to the Ravens for a second and a fifth. Roquan Smith leading the NFL in tackles. Oh yeah. Did you know that? I did not know that until I watched this morning where they had his entire stat line up on ESPN. Leads the NFL in tackles. He's going to the Baltimore Ravens defense, who I think is a bunch of dogs, right? People said they were exposed early. New defense coordinator because Wink Martindale's out of there. They're saying some of the corners maybe couldn't cover anybody. You bring in a guy that's leading the NFL in tackles, that has to be a good thing. Bears fans obviously watching this trade and Quinn's trade

and wondering what the hell we're trying to do on the defense side of the ball, able to put up points. I think they've got a vision for the future. I assume old Cousy is very happy he got traded Roquan because after Quinn got traded, he seemed visibly distraught about it all. Now he goes to Baltimore. Great fit for that defense, I assume old Cousy's very happy he got traded Roquan because after Quinn got traded, he seemed visibly distraught about it all. Now he goes to Baltimore. Great fit for that defense, I assume. And what do you think Baltimore's thinking with this trade?

That's the type of player they like over there. I mean, he's downhill, he's hard-nosed, he's going to hit people, mix him with Quinn. They've got a hell of a linebacker in Cornell. You played for the Ravens. Harbaugh. Harbaugh a good guy? Just likes dogs?

What type of coach? He's a hard-ass coach or no? He is. He comes from that Andy Reid tree. So, it beats you up during training camp, builds you back up for the year. And, I mean, the culture there is unbelievable. It starts from up top, starts with him. Why won't they pay a little more?

Business. Isn't that what Ed Reid said? Business? Well, Ed Reid said that he needs to start treating the game like it's business. Yeah, think about it. If they're going to treat it like it's business needs to start treating the games like it's business. If they're going to treat it like it's business, you need to treat it like it's business too.

That's what they're telling you this is. I understand that. But I like them making a move. I like the Ravens making a play. I enjoy any of these teams that utilize this trade deadline and say, I want to make our team better. There's only a few teams at the moment that appear to be on their way. And we'll see those teams make moves today somehow because those teams want to continue to get better and better

where everybody else is almost maybe planning for next year or the future or a rebuild or a readjustment period here for the next few weeks during November. So I'm excited the teams are making moves. The Ravens are one of them. Lead the AFC North. They are big-time favorites to win the AFC North. They add another weapon on defense side. Is this kind of a sign of the times?

Because they do have two starting linebackers and with like in like last year a couple years ago people would have said i mean majority of the time you only have one linebacker on the field like but now people are running more so we're seeing like cyclical say it said the game is cyclical the game is cyclical you talk about whenever they the air raid offense hit college ball and then quarterbacks were starting to transition in the nfl and then guys started doing in the nfl it became like the thing and then rules started changing for fantasy football in sports gambling and statistics and ratings and there's hits that were eliminated from the game coverages that were eliminated from the game it's like hey you need to be throwing the ball and everybody got faster

and smaller and quicker and combine times are faster than they had ever been. You run a 4-6 nowadays, you're fucking slow. 4-6 is slow when everybody's running 4-3s. Back in the day, it was 4-4 was the fucking number they were looking for. You actually hear Chuck still go, hey, this guy, fo-fo. It's like fo-fo is now slow-slow. That is like average time. The game got much faster, much quicker, much more wide open.

And then when you would talk to people, there were big meathead football people back in the day people like Vrabel people like AQ people like AJ they're like yeah once everybody starts getting small though somebody's gonna somebody's gonna start just beating people up and I was like well how long you think it's going to be because they're changing rules to make these games be wide open everything he's like it normally takes like about a generation or so. And I was like, is that an accurate guess? Is that what is happening in the NFL right now? Because it feels like run schemes are getting more sophisticated.

That might be because we're in trenches learning about them every single week. So maybe you should take a little bit of credit for that. But it feels like run games are becoming a much more important part of whether or not you're going to be a team or you're not going to be a team. And has it always been this way or did it change for a little bit no i think it's always cyclical is that the word we're using right so it's not just us we didn't create the fucking word webster did i think perfect well that's the word so you had when i came in it was jamal williams it was vince wilfork it was casey hamptons right then they get phased out it's jj water and donald all those guys and then look who got drafted this past year big jordan davis right like the big boys

are going to start. You're going to see that monster down in Florida. What's he weigh? 405 pounds. You're going to start seeing those guys starting to kind of roll back in because the run games are taking off. Because they're going to be able to take advantage of the littler guys. 100%.

It's all about matchups. See that nickel in the box and we go after them. Oh, no. No way. Breaking news. Oh, no. No way. Breaking news. Oh no. Pathel? Association.

Association? Whoa. Just one day removed from being kicked out of a game in which we saw a photo of him and his eyes were this big from intensity and lashing out. and his eyes were this big from intensity and lashing out. Former 18-year NBA vet, head coach of the Nets, Steve Nash, has been fired. Oh!

Shams Harania on the report here on NFL Trade Deadline Day. Shams Harania is reporting that Nets and head coach Steve Nash have agreed two part ways. Steve Nash, if you do recall, was a part of a conversation that Kevin Durant had with ownership of the Nets. We learned of this conversation because it became very public knowledge that Kevin Durant said, either you fire these motherfuckers, the coach and GM, or you fire me. Okay, one or the other. And now I'm going to go watch a concert here in Paris with James Harden. That is allegedly what happened in the meeting so now we know potentially kevin durant's conversation with

the ownership maybe did wrinkle into a little bit of thought process if it's not going exactly how we want it to go we will adjust steve nash is fired from the brooklyn nets job i'll be excited to hear his thoughts on it all 10 years from now why don't you come back yeah like they did that whole song and dance like all ke Kevin and I buried the hatchet. We put our swords down. Like, they clearly, Durant hated him the entire time, and they started 1-4 or 1-5 or whatever they are. I think they won last night against the Pacers.

They did. Pacers are the worst team in basketball. Exactly. So, how do you fire a guy after, you know, getting a massive win? It was a massive win. How do you fire the guy? You a massive win? It was a massive win. How do you fire the guy? He beat the Pacers. Yeah.

That's what I'm talking about. At home. Come on. That's a big-time win. Is KD the coach now? We got Jackie Moon's situation. Here we go. It's genius.

KD got a percentage ownership through that. What's his? Crypto. No, Ventures. 3-5 Ventures. 3-5 Ventures. what's his Crypto no Ventures 3-5 Ventures 3-5 Ventures he has a part of the Nets

with 3-5 Ventures he's owner he just became the 19th or past 19th become the 19th highest scorer in NBA history last night against the Pacers

he's a player now he's a coach. That's Jackie Moon. That's right. Is he the fucking pregame? Pregame announcer. Entertainment and announcer? Yeah.

If we're going to Brooklyn Nets games and it's the Kevin Durant show, I am fucking here for it. Get him on a dry race board on the sideline. Is he going to wrestle a bear? Do we? Maybe. If they need to get fourth place and play in a mega ball he'll fucking do it i love kevin i'm on kevin rant side all the time even though steve nash was very cool to me whenever he talked to me up there in canada he was and i clearly knew

nothing about him and uh i told him that was a little bit rude to me i did not know he was going to be there i thought i was talking to marshall lynch steve nash shows up hey you want to talk steve nash definitely want to talk to her i know he want to talk to Steve Nash. I know he is awesome. I know Steve Nash. I know of Steve Nash. I didn't know the finer details of Steve Nash's career going into that conversation. Rude of me. He was awesome.

Played in the NBA a long time. In my head, as we were doing the introduction there, I had to remember me saying, you played in the NBA for 18 years? That's what I said to him. And he said, yeah. As you drank coffee. Dang it. Holy shit. Yeah, holy shit. That's what I said to him. And he said, yeah, as you drank coffee. Dang it. Holy shit. Yeah, holy shit. That's what I said.

I felt so bad right in front of his face, but seems like a cool guy coaching over there in Brooklyn. Seemed to have been a nightmare experience. That's why I'm excited to hear what he has to say about it 10 years from now. Coaching through COVID, coaching with Kyrie going through what Kyrie was going through. Are they giving him back pay for everything that happened with the Supreme Court in New

York and their rulings? I doubt it, but what a scene. Another coach was fired today. He's the offense coordinator for the Indianapolis Colts. Frank got fired? So Frank's head coach play caller. Oh, okay. Titles are important here.

Offense coordinator got fired. That's on me. Marcus Brady. He has been released from the Indianianapolis colts of his contract that came through tom pelissero's memo uh on twitter he was the offense coordinator he um he was a human that i did not know really existed so yeah i think that is uh what the hell good news that's good news i think for uh colts fans. Somebody got fired that we didn't know.

Offense coordinator, thought that was Frank Reich, to Diggs' point. Thought Frank Reich was the one that was calling plays, making plays, doing the plays. But obviously Marcus Brady was a part of the strategy, part of the scheme. And he's the reason, that's the reason he got fired, because the Colts offense has looked at him. What's that? They're better now? You yeah for sure this is interesting you know this is uh yeah this is a really interesting thing because um this is clearly like a hey Jim we're gonna make some changes we're still fighting every single day type move right that's what Frank and Chris are currently doing with Jim

Irsay if we just had to guess ownership Jim, Jim Irsay, Chris Ballard, Frank Reich, paying $40 million to a quarterback who is no longer the starter. And he's hurt, and he did not do well. Owner also paid linebacker, running back, corner. I mean, offensive line have paid everybody. And it seems if the writing's maybe on the wall is what people are saying for Frank and Chris with how things have gone. Made the playoffs a couple years ago.

Didn't make the playoffs last year. Looks like not going to make the playoffs this year. Jim Irsay, very public persona, very public person. Was out trick-or-treating with the Green Kids last night. Oh, that's nice. What a guy. Very much on social media. He's in the whole thing.

Cut a great promo for Tariq Glenn on Sunday. I wonder if this is Frank and Chris saying to Jim, like, yeah, we're not going to stand for this being the same thing. I don't know why Marcus Brady was the one that got fired. Offensive line coach potentially may be a conversation, but how many offensive line coaches are on a staff? One, two, three? Yeah, typically just one, and then there's an assistant.

So it's tough to fire a position group person? Is that that the thing and is it always going to have to be a coordinator it's going to have to be a coordinator because then you know the assistant usually isn't ready in their case right to take over a full room and then he's got no one to help him out if you fire a position group guy with that only has an assistant so it's going to be the coordinator oh but what if you didn't know a coordinator even like existed or the, so it's going to be the coordinator. Oh. But what if he didn't know the coordinator even existed? Then it's the perfect fall guy, right? Because aren't you firing it for the public perception? For sure.

Perfect fall guy. But we don't know this guy exists. So the whole public is just going to be. The public is going to see the title. You think? Yeah. But in this case, when the head coach is the one calling the plays, isn't everyone saying, like, well, you're the one calling the plays,

so what's this guy doing? You're firing this guy for no reason. It's your fault that the offense sucks. It almost brings an immediate. Why the fuck are we firing this guy? You're right. The offense is a problem. Yeah.

You call the plays. It almost brings that. It doesn't. This doesn't get. But you can't fire Gus Bradley. I guess first year. Yeah, exactly right. I assume Jim Mercer asked Frank Wright to list out his top five favorite coaches

that he's with, and then he said, okay, every game you lose, I'm going to fire one of them, starting with your number one guy. It's like a squid game. Marcus Brady, exactly. And Frank was like, please don't think and do that. My life will freaking suck if you do that. Please don't, Jim. And then, unfortunately.

You lay off fudging Frank Reich. No, if he swore, if you do that. Please don't, Jim. And then, unfortunately. Will you lay off fudging Frank Reich? No, if he swore, I would do it. I don't want to speak for Frank Reich and swear, yeah. I bet you Frank, good guy, great teammate, backup quarterback, long time. Everybody loved him, it sounds like. But it is not, for whatever reason, it is a boring brand of football. So boring. So boring.

It is so boring to watch. I mean, it is. It's tough. And it seems like, I don't know if Marcus Brady is going to change anything or him being gone. But I'll tell you what,

if Marcus Brady's negativity was coming into those meetings and that negativity was oozing into the play calls, then I'm happy he's gone. I heard. I'm happy he's gone. With that being said,

stinks for Marcus Brady to be the guy that's getting fired for this. I didn't even know you existed. I live in Indianapolis. I heard. I'm happy he's gone. With that being said, stinks for Marcus Brady to be the guy that's getting fired for this. I didn't even know you existed. I live in Indianapolis. I heard it had nothing to do with on the field, actually. I heard when Frank asked everyone to bow their heads on team meal on Sunday. Do not.

That's maybe voice. Not again, Tony. That's maybe voice. That was sports talk radio around Indianapolis the last time Tony did something he just did. You know that? Were you here for that? I remember hearing bits and pieces of it. I also heard it's a rule that if you're at this point in the season,

if you're the 30th, 31st, or 32nd ranked offense in the NFL, or Paffle, you should fire your offense coordinator. I heard that too. I mean, realistically, Frank Reich is just a fucking – Bye-bye, Kenny. He's just not a good coach. Bye-bye. They've had different quarterbacks every year.

If he was a good coach, he would be able to bring in a quarterback who's proven and kind of make him learn his system. He fucking stinks. He has to be fired. I don't understand why he still has a job. The team is terrible. Seriously. Guys, it makes no sense.

And his family is going to be just fine because he's gotten paid a shit ton of money to stink at football. And that's what they've done for the last four years. And he's picked a different quarterback every year. And there's been better quarterbacks available. And they fucking stunk every year. It sucks to live in the city when the Colts lose because everybody's just a pain in the ass. Indiana nice. Nice people, yeah.

But they're just like, oh, Frank Reich. Oh, Andrew Luck retired. He screwed us. It was fucking five years ago. Get over it. Go win a game. Jesus Christ. It was less than five years ago.

Three, four years ago. Going into 2018. That did really change a lot of things. What, nine days before the season, the guy retires? I mean, happy, he's happy. Sounds like Andrew Luck is very happy. Every time he does an interview, it seems like he's in a good spot. Happy for him and his decision.

But when you're talking about building the team, it seems like that is always the excuse. Like, hey, is that a worthy excuse, you think? Tom Brady allegedly was thinking about coming to Colts. Now, would he have really? Who knows? We go with Phillip Rivers instead. Phillip Rivers gets us to playoffs.

Almost beats the Bills. Phillip Rivers retires, goes to coach high school football. We try to have him on the Megacast, have no service. Phillip Rivers hasn't responded since. He was pissed. He was responded since. He was pissed. He was not happy. He was pissed. Then Matt Stafford.

Definitely looking at it. Matthew Stafford. We apologize, by the way, Phil. Yeah. It was just. What are you. I mean, it's nobody's fault. I don't think so either.

Just something that happened. We wish we would have talked to him. It's everybody's fault. Then next year, Matthew Stafford allegedly was looking at real estate in Indy. Like on Zillow in Indianapolis. Looking at real estate. Trying to break down where he was going to move to. Nope. He's going to the Rams. Guess what? Both those motherfuckers

go win a Super Bowl with another team. We end up with Carson Wentz. Carson doesn't take us to the playoffs. Carson gets traded. That's all I'm going to say. Got the future now, though. That's all I'm going to say about Carson Wentz. I think he could have played good football. I think he could have played good football.

Now, was it the situation he was in? Is it the situation he's in now? Is it the situation he was in? Who knows? It doesn't need to be said. Then we bring in Matt Ryan. We bring in Matt Ryan. Nobody's going to trade for Matt Ryan because the contract's so big.

We were saying that on this show. Whenever they were talking about maybe trading Matt Ryan last year, I think in the middle of the season, because Artie Smith's team was – or two years ago. Whatever the case was, he was talking about being traded. Our entire take was nobody's going to trade for Matt Ryan. His contract is bananas. Nobody's going to add that to their salary cap for Matt Ryan.

And we did. We traded for Matt Ryan. We picked up that salary. And I was excited to hear all the reports out of camp where this dude's a fucking guy good leader of men he understands the offense he's able to do it then the first eight weeks it's like well he doesn't really the miscommunications happening between both of them it's like okay so philip rivers played one year retired so you can't do it anymore carson wentz did not work out as an indianapolis colt matt ryan already done as an indianapolis colts it's $120-some million has been spent

over quarterbacks over the last three years. At what point do you think Jim Mercer goes, I'm sick of paying all these people that you guys think we should pay for? I think that is where Frank and Chris are like, we'll fire somebody. We've got to try to make a move. I wonder when it all comes to a head.

They've got to draft somebody, right? We can't just keep getting 38-year-olds and being like, that's the answer. We got it. Solved. They gave up picks. They gave up a first-round pick for Carson Wentz. It wasn't even just bringing him in.

It was a second that turned into a first, but they drafted Sam Ellinger. Two sprained ankles, you remember. Yeah, two sprained ankles, and instead of missing some games, he only played less than 70% of the season. 85%. 85%. It was such a high percent.

Only had to miss one game, really. Yeah. But instead he doesn't. And now they have absolutely no hope for the future. What is your problem? Because they're going to win seven games. They're going to win seven games. They're going to be 7-9-1.

And they're going to be middle of the pack. And they're not going to be high enough to get a good QB. So what you're hearing here is Connor has had to hang around Colts fans. Yes. Yeah. That's what you're hearing. Just talk about all this bullshit that they're going to be able to do. They're not.

They fucking stink. All the players that they paid, unfortunately, at least this year, aren't working out. They haven't paid Jonathan Taylor yet, but go ahead and pay a running back because that works out for every single team who's fucking done it. Makes no sense. All right.

Well, hopefully the Colts figure it out. We have a lot to figure out. Allegedly, the Paffle is already a league. Yeah. Wait, what? Yeah. That doesn't count. Nope, that doesn't count.

Ours is just a professional one. Yeah, and is that? It's two different ones. Nothing but shout out to the Philippine American Football League. We just have the professional one. Two separate entities. You see, theirs goes da-na-na-na-na-na. Ours goes da-na-na-na-na-na-na.

You see? So they're paff. Easy there. Paff. Feels like a paff-o. World Wildlife Foundation situation. Well, I hope we don't end up on the wrong side of that. They actually had to change.

Yeah, they moved the whole thing. And we will change to PAFE if we have to. If we have to be professional American football entertainment, we will. Simple. We will do it. We mean no disrespect and haven't met any disrespect to the Philippine American Football League. We didn't know you existed until just moments ago. With that being said, I think we can coexist.

I think so. I think we can both exist. And if not, please let us know. We will obviously be talking about the PAFE going forward. I don't think they've had a season since 2019. Yep. Unfortunately, I think the pandemic killed the pavel potentially well every new beginning again yeah every new beginning comes from some other beginnings

end that's right and i don't like that the philippine american football league is no more yeah i think more american football league the better i think at some point if the earth survives long enough obviously right and i'm hearing about a gold asteroid out in a space that we're trying to get to uh that has enough gold to make everybody on earth a billionaire if everybody's billionaire is anybody a billionaire ponder that for sure article i'm sure they're just going to split that with everybody thanks article well you know you could potentially think if there's just one of these floating around how many are floating around out there?

Yeah, let's get up there. Probably several. And maybe we need to start sending some people splunking. Yes. You know, maybe we need to hot. Ooh. There it is. Thank you.

How about you go to space and fucking take a jackhammer to one of these asteroids? Oh, what do you say? If I become a billionaire. Watch out. This is going to be an awesome life. Yeah, but everybody's going to be a billionaire. Thank you. That's okay. No, that means nobody's a billionaire. No, yeah everybody's going to be a billionaire. AQ. That's okay.

No, that means nobody's a billionaire. Yeah, we need to be the first to the Astro. That's what I'm saying. We got to get there first? Call Matt Ryan. He's got time. He's an astronaut. Well, that's what his leadership style was discussed.

Right. Turns out astronauts don't win a lot of football games. No. Bummer. Okay. We need to get Jack Hammer over. Fucking Farr's already building a rock in his backyard Fucking get up there

As they're coming back in Whoever the runners are Favre's taking a football, throwing that rock You know those Brinks trucks People try to rob the Brinks trucks Think about what these missiles that are coming back with Full of things of gold are going to encounter You think Favre's calling Montana

Being like, hey I heard what you did to that burglar that tried stealing your baby. Oh, yeah, remember? Threw a football from upstairs to downstairs. Hit kidnapper who was trying to kidnap his goddaughter. Granddaughter. Hit kidnapper in face with Duke football. Point. Oh!

Kidnapper throws baby in air. Yeah, point. Kidnapper throws baby in air. Joe slides down the banister. Round of bend. Goes off. Catches baby. Unbelievable. Steps on

kidnapper. Call the police. Yep. What a hero. Fucking A. By Zano. Check the pulse. Actually killed the kidnapper. Like the last. Yep. What a hero. Fucking A. Aizano. Check the pulse. Actually killed the kidnapper like the last Boy Scout. Boom. The fucking nose bone right into his brain killed him. We should make a movie where it's basically the town, but it's Favre and Montana.

Let's get to a break. Let's get to a break. Let's get to a break. Let's get to a break. Favre's not calling Montana. We know what he's doing. He's strapping four poor people to a rocket saying, hey yeah if you come back with 10 buckets of gold i will give you a hot pocket i'll maybe think about getting you a couple items off the dollar

menu maybe maybe that's only if i'm a billionaire all right ladies and gentlemen aj hawk hey hey jay what's up dude good to be here. How are you guys doing? Hey, fantastic. How was Halloween last night? How was the evening? It was great, man. I scooted around a little bit with the mask on. Probably freaked a couple people out, but then I eventually took that thing off. I logged some hours in that guy yesterday. I really did. Yeah, I felt like you really felt one with that mask yesterday at certain points during our conversation because we all took our shit off. Yeah.

Because, you know, it was tough to take take anybody serious it was tough to have any conversation we did it though like 35 minutes we did halloween we had a full bit didn't we yeah we did a bit committed to it we committed because a year ago we did it and the whole show crashed we committed to it you stuck with it the whole hey thank you for doing that thank you aj we thought we're never gonna get aj back we thought you were just creep forever now. No, but you know I'm not just going to dip my toes in. I'm going to jump all in, man, if we're going to do it. Hell yeah.

Speaking of jumping all in, we jumped all in that we don't know what the fuck's going to happen in any primetime football game tree yet again. Pal, Cleveland beats the shit out of the Cincinnati Bengals last night. Whenever you see Chubb get wide open like that, and then Kareem Hunt's name is on the trade block, he might be traded today is what our sources are telling Zito, who's telling me that maybe Kareem Hunt is on the move today. The two-headed backfield in which Chubb has become amongst Hall of Fame company

already in the backfield, and he's been split in time. So who knows what it'll be like in the future whenever he's the full-time back because he is elusive he is powerful he is explosive last night goes for over 102 touchdowns the Cincinnati Bengals are having a tough time protecting Joe Burrow what are your what is your takeaway of the Paffles Ohio Super Bowl last night AJ Hawk I mean obviously not having Jamar Chase definitely affects this offense for the Bengals, but the Bengals couldn't run the ball. They couldn't really protect Joe Burrow. How do you expect to win the game?

Credit to the Browns' defense, too, for putting pressure on them and seeming to be kind of suffocating them all night. Just the Bengals could never get going, I feel like. Yeah, I think the Bengals couldn't get going, and also the bounces were going Cleveland's way. I mean, that Miles Garrett deflection off of Cousy's hands right in. Yeah, this is the first quarter. Ten minutes left in the first quarter. That's very early for a ball not to go your way.

Joey Burrow running away from Myles Garrett here. Smart, smart, smart. Let's see another day. Smart. Hey, thank you for doing that, Joey. Because maybe a year ago, maybe two years ago, Joe Burrow is running his face right in the middle of Miles Garrett's chest there. And then he's probably getting pushed down to the ground and landing right on his shoulder somehow.

So I appreciate Joey Burrow being smart. But whenever these types of bounces are happening early and then all the momentum is on the other side and you can't protect your quarterback, it's going to be a tough evening. Now, AQ, you said Miles Garrett's preparing for that. They knew that that was potentially coming. So if you're not in and you're not free, go ahead and look to get your hands up. It causes a pick very early in the game. You think that was prepared and planned for. I think this Bengals offense has shown RPO quick throws. Just get maybe even the big touchdown with Chase last week, the one that he takes 60 yards, it was an eight yard throw. He just turns in everything they've shown all year. Short, quick

RPO game. So defenders are told are told hey you're probably not going to get there get your hands up get your ball get a batted ball get whatever and you're going to create play so miles garrett that looks like he got lucky just made an insane play but going into the game he probably knew he had a lot of those opportunities ed jay yeah and he's 19 feet tall with super long arms so it makes a lot of sense for him to get his arms in the air especially when he's on the play side. I enjoy just like that little detail because that seems like, oh, he just got lucky and got the ball.

It was like, well, or maybe. No, they work on it. That AQ knows like you work on that as D lineman. If you're not going to get to the quarterback, do something. Get your hands up. Get in the throwing lane. Alternate the thrower. This is the best case scenario for you right here. Why doesn't that big, fat offensive lineman not just cut?

Yeah, what the hell? Why didn't you just cut that guy? Dan Orlovsky told me you just cut that fucking guy. What's the deal? How come that's not happening? Classic quarterback answer, right? Just fucking cut him. It's a run play.

It's a run play. It's a cut him. You can't just cut. We've got to run the ball. It's a great point. It's a great point, AQ. Explain that to people that don't know that come at Pat like that. Yeah, Connor, why don't you get out here, Connor.

You're the defensive end. AQ, you be the tackle. Yeah. And while you're doing it, if you could explain, I mean, I'll relay the message into a microphone. AQ, that's got to put linemen in terrible situations, right? Like they're getting blamed for not cutting a guy down when it's a run to them. Right?

That's exactly right. He can't hear you. What do you think this is? Yeah. So, when you run an RPO, can we hear this? Yeah. Really good, actually. We did it.

So when you run an RPO, you're actually running the run play. It's not just, hey, listen, we're going to fake this run. It's an automatic pass. The quarterback's reading the Will Linebacker. And whether he goes over there, we hand it off. If he stays in the hole, now we throw it. So it's a complete read. So you can't just cut guys.

That's the defensive end down here. I can't just come and cut his legs out from under him because if he hands the ball out, boom, he swims me and makes the play on the run, boom. Tackle for minus four. But now I run. You think it's run. You don't know what's going on behind you. You don't know what it is, so you're on the run, boom. Tackle for minus four. But now I run. You think it's run. You don't know what's going on behind you.

You don't know what it is, so you're blocking the run. You have to block the run. So now Connor comes out of his fifth. I'm here. Now he sees that it's a pass, and that's what happened. Question, AQ. Yeah. Why don't you punch him right in the balls?

How do you run block an RPO? Because a lot of times guys will get caught downfield on an RPO because they're run blocking. Isn't it a slow thing? Well, it's interesting because they're calling more illegal men downfield this year than ever before. I think defensive coaches have been bitching and complaining a lot, saying, hey, listen, these guys are downfield.

They haven't called it in years past. They're making an effort to it. So now you're trying to maybe hang on the double teams a little bit longer and then get to the second level. So hopefully the ball's out by that point aq how far are they allowed to technically go downfield two yards in college i believe it's what three is college three uh it might be yeah yeah i think but it's like a weird it's a weird in between though isn't it kind of like a subjective call and also the people that are watching it right they have other jobs to be looking at too sure that's not their only job to be watching in that particular play.

Like a lot of calls, the refs have, hey, you have this call in this spot, then as the play progresses you have something else. I think that call is always like an additive, like and also this call. Well, I think also, too, you don't know where they're at when the ball is thrown, right? So now if you're a ref and you're looking at this guy, now you look up and he's five yards downfield. They may have been at that two-yard spot when the ball was thrown,

which would have been legal, but they see him five yards downfield blocking a linebacker, so they're like, illegal man. Can't do it. Can't do it. Can't win with it. That's bullshit. But I do like the fact that Miles Garrett took advantage of the opportunity,

made a big-time play, and last night was Cleveland's night. What do you think of that team, AJ? What do you think of Cleveland going forward? Chubb seems to be a monster. The block game, AQ says they've fucking got the best offensive line in football. That's a big statement coming from in-the-trenches host himself, AQ Shipley. But he says Chubb and that offensive line are an incredible tandem. You bring back Deshaun, or you debut Deshaun,

not that Jacoby doesn't deserve some respect and credit for getting this massive win. San Francisco right there. How do you even stop that? There's no way to stop that. You can't stop that. You want to be the edge guy? You want to try to set the edge there with that big old lineman coming back across the ball here good luck look at this this is trent williams stuff but this is just this guy right here

bam boom squared him up i appreciate i respect that he squared him up but he had no shot in the whole thing but as we see more team like atlanta does this type of shit the niners do this type of shit we learn that from aq breaking it down you. You see Cleveland doing it. We can assume they're going to have success going forward. Maybe we weren't feeling that way about the Browns two or three weeks ago, I don't think, at all. Mail it in, we're saying about the fucking Browns on this year. Is

Deshaun even going to waste coming back? Are they even going to think about putting their $230 million quarterback in at the end of the season when he can come back because of what the Browns' potential are? You watch them win last night, night it's like maybe the Browns are able to put together some hard-nosed football going forward you know they should I mean with Chubb like it seems impossible to stop Chubb for four quarters what talky talky got that uh strip sack too with Miles Garrett in there on the back of it like they have studs everywhere you look but

it's like the NFL from week to week we don't know what we're going to get. I feel like we don't know what team is going to show up. Oh, you're muted. I just wasn't sure. Okay, yeah, Pafflehawk, but also, they just, you mentioned Taki Taki. They also got the Falcons' best middle linebacker, Deion Jones, who played last night. Oh, he had a sweet sack

last night, too. Yeah, Deion can fly. He's great. Hey, it's crazy how one primetime game, though, can kind of change a narrative. You know, Aaron was talking about that with the Packers. Like, hey, one primetime game, we can change the entire narrative, not only about the team, but about you as a whole. And then last night, the conversation's about Chubb. It's about how good the Browns could potentially be.

Get a quarterback in there, not Jacoby. It's different whenever you win a game. That's why the week-to-week mentality of the NFL, the pathos, sorry, is so real. Because one week you're dead. The next, oh, maybe they can go on a run. Four o'clock deadline, Eastern Standard Time for the trade deadlines. Which teams are going to try to go and which teams are going to say no? Which teams are going to be selling?

Which teams are going to be collecting? We're going to learn a lot about teams, I think, in the next two and a half hours. Joining us now is a man who is certainly going to be in the Hall of Fame, an absolute game wrecker. This past weekend, he went into the Vikings Ring of Honor and rode a fucking Clydesdale onto the field. Ladies and gentlemen, stud of a man, incredible pass rusher, Jared Allen. How are you, man? Hey, good. How you guys doing? How was the weekend? I mean, we saw you on the Clydesdale. I assume it was a celebration the entire weekend, and did you have a blast? It was a whirlwind.

You know, it's like a wedding, right? It's like your wedding. You don't actually get to enjoy it until the end when everybody's done taking your freaking picture. Yeah. And, you know, pulling it this way, that way, yeah. But, yeah, it was a Friesian, actually, a Friesian horse. You know, Clydesdale, very very similar though uh is that your horse sweet no it's not it's not uh they're trying to they're trying to get me to buy it right I guess I

probably should at this point hold on so had you ever rode that horse before is that first time on a horse no no no I used to like but they they called with it with how it kind of came about was they were like when we first you know told me I was going to ring of honor they're like hey if we could get a horse would you go and come out on a horse i'm like yeah sure like let me know i'll bring one of mine up and then we didn't talk about it and then they called me monday and they're like hey you still good with that horse thing and i was like uh yeah but under these conditions i have to ride it what kind of horse send me some videos here and i got to test drive this thing on saturday um because i ain't going into 80 000 screaming fans on a you know on a whim i mean i thought i'm not worried about me

but it might not look good if that horse goes crazy because you know things will get western and uh i will win that oh we're talking to jared allen a man who rode a farisian horse into the stadium in minnesota this past weekend toisian horse into the stadium in Minnesota this past weekend to celebrate him going into the Ring of Honor. A lot of stories, I assume. A lot of, you know, kind of talking about the good old days with the Vikings teammates in the Vikings front office. And what was your biggest takeaway, you think, from all the meet and greet and the hoopla of the weekend? Yeah, you know what?

They did a great job. To me, I think it was just the moments I got to spend with some guys I hadn't seen for a little while and some of the older guys you know the purple jacket guys steve jordan uh you know uh johnny randall you know those guys like that um so just kind of being able to to chop it up with them uh hear their stories you know kind of reconnect and stuff like that obviously seeing kevin and pat williams fred evans all those guys you know that that's that's great then i think like my kids now are at an age where they they can they can kind of like grasp now what i used to do because they were young when i when i played when i retired um so to see their face of like dad why do these why do these people think you're somebody cool yeah like you're the guy who takes me to softball and volleyball like why does

everybody want to talk to you? So that was pretty fun. But, yeah, I mean, I think it was just kind of a whirl. I think the best memory, I mean, you know, obviously coming out on the horse and stuff like that was the fun part. But the whole experience was great. It's completely humbling, you know, seeing the banner drop and seeing your name, you know, inscribed up there. It's pretty surreal.

It's kind of just kind of, you know, you don't really know what to say, to be honest with you. You just kind of take it in and be like, well, I guess I did it all right. Yeah, you deserved it, pal. You earned that. You earned it all. We're lucky to have watched and we're excited to chat with you now. How do you feel about the current Vikings team?

Hey, they look good. This team looks like they can go. They just trade for TJ Hawkinson. They look like a team that can go. Did you get to chat to Kevin O'Connell or to with anybody on the team and what are your thoughts yep and so i got you know so when they when they first brought me out this summer um i got to spend time with crazy and and and o'connell and i gotta be honest like you know when they first were doing the regime change i'm a little skeptical i'm like man here we go again it's gonna be like this you know you take two tips forward and then you bounce all the way back you're gonna rebuild and uh but after talking with crazy and o'connell that you know

early this summer i was like you know what these guys have a method to their madness and sometimes when you hear statistical or analytical guys you know take over you know it's all numbers but they have a great way you know crazy has a great way of using how smart he is and numbers guys but then surrounding himself by with football people so all those analytics then get put into an actual football but you know i mean so it's not just like well the numbers say this it's like okay well if we can do xyz on this side but then he has the football input so man honestly right guys and i think they're at the right age the right mentality that they got the players to buy in. They understand where the current NFL is.

You know, I just don't think you can have these, you know, 65-year-old hard asses anymore. Like, I love it. Right? Old school. When people want to be out there dancing, me and Pat Williams were laughing. It was like, and Kevin, we're like, man, these guys put more energy into the celebration than they actually do the play. You know, they ran 75 yards to go celebrate, caught the pick and slip. So, but yeah, I just, I love where the rat and, you know, they ran 75 yards to go celebrate, caught the pick and slip.

So, but yeah, I just, I love where the rat and, you know, coach told me after the Miami deal, he said, he's like, they found a way to win. So I was able to talk to the team Friday or I'm sorry, Saturday on the walkthrough. And I told him, I said, that's, that's the biggest thing. You know, when you have a regime change and anybody's ever been through a regime change culture, you know, it's, it's, it's a word used a lot, but winning culture is tough to define, right?

Because losing is a, you know, losing becomes a, what's the word I'm looking for? Like you have to learn how to win. Like losing can become a tradition. Like you just get in situations and you're just like, well, here we go again and we're going to lose. So learning how to win is a behavior that has to take time. And for these guys to come in and find ways to win week in and week out and to continue to build on that at such an early stage, it just shows that they believe in their coaches.

It shows that the coaches, you know, obviously got them right and they had the balance in the locker room. So the more and more I'm around them, the more and more I say, okay, these guys are going to be the real deal. And then Z'Darrius coming off the edge with Ballin. And I think once Daniil gets used to that stand-up position, coming from a guy who's a monster with his hand on the ground, to come to have to stand up, I mean, that's got to be a tough transition for him.

So, yeah, I don't even think they're clicking on all cylinders, to be honest with you, quite yet. And they're just winning. Hell, yeah. And they're trading and trying to get better. T.J. Hawkinson traded in today from the Lions in the division. It's wild stuff. A.J., your question.

I guess going a little bit off what you said, how surprising is it at the success that they have had that new regime this early? Obviously, the roster was there. Kirk is there. Kirk's playing well. The rest of the team does. But you're right. It's tough to come in from day one.

I think O'Connell is. They're leading the NFC North and looking great right now. Hopefully, they can continue that, I guess. But how surprising is that that they can actually do that and implement it all right from day one like o'connell is and they're leading the nfc north and looking great right now hopefully they can continue that i guess but how surprising is that so they can actually do that and implement it all right from day one it's huge because you know what it shows it shows a it shows a humility amongst the coaching staff as players we know coaches have bigger egos than any player i said that often people look at me like i'm crazy and i'm like coaches usually have an ego right and it has to be their way. They want this done.

But I think what they've done is they came in and they took a look at their roster and said, okay, how do we complement this, right? You know, it would have been easy to go in and just trash Kirk because he hadn't done, you know, he hadn't personally himself taken him, you know, to a Super Bowl yet. But I think they found a way to keep Dalvin Cook healthy, right? To, you know know get a strong running game let kurt play action off of that you know kind of balance that offense out and then play you know solid defense you know behind and i think too you know the expectation was zimmer you

know zimmer has an expectation of defense that's supposed to be here so when it dips you know the world the world's falling so um yeah i just i just think that that they were able to kind of get away from the expectations of what were in the past. And it just shows that this regime, you know, they have a connectivity with the locker room and that, you know, they really are humbled in their own rights because they just look, hey, this is what we got. Now let's figure out as coaches to make them successful, not the other way around. Like, you know, a lot of coaches come in and try to find players that are going to make their scheme successful. I agree.

And I think they've kind of taken a different approach to that. Yeah, I think so. Honestly, I believe, like, what do we have? How do we make it the best it can possibly be? While also having our style implemented. I think that is something. Like, Kevin O'Connell, you see that offense and what they were using Justin Jefferson.

Justin Jefferson had, like, 180 yards in the first half against the team. I forget what it was, maybe week four or week five. And they had him on all these drag routes. And then now you have Adam Thielen, who's a guy, I think, in every single. Now he's getting able to feed off. And then Dalvin Cook hammers it home. And it's just like it feels like they have it all figured out. Quazy is how you pronounce the GM's name.

It sounds like we are. Is that accurate? You've talked to him. Yes, that's what, if I'm mispronouncing it. No, I think we were mispronouncing it. You would know. We would not. So everybody's saying Kwesi, I think.

Yeah. Kwesi. Maybe it is. No, no. Maybe it is Kwesi. Maybe I'm mispronouncing it. Kwesi, if I'm wrong, I apologize, but he hasn't corrected me yet on it. Kwesi, we apologize as well if we are wrong.

We can't wait to see. He probably doesn't give a fuck as long as they're winning games, and that's the right mentality to have. While we have you here, we'd be remiss not to ask, because you deserve to be in the Hall of Fame. I think we all agree that. We're all fans. We don't have votes.

How much do you think about that? Is it something that you think about when you were playing? Did you think about it? And when the day inevitably comes, will you feel a massive weight off your shoulders? Will you feel, like, gratitude? What do you think you'll feel when you were playing did you think about it and when the day inevitably comes will you feel a massive weight off your shoulders will you feel like gratitude what do you think you'll feel when it happens um you know i got asked that question a lot this week so it's kind of apropos right and i i tell people i go it's it's this weird feeling because you're getting you're getting rewarded so to speak or judged based on stuff you did a while ago right

um and i told the guys you know this weekend when they were asking me about the Ring of Honor, I said, it doesn't mean to sound cocky, right? But the Ring of Honor, that kind of stuff, they're expectations. Because when I played, that's what I was chasing. I was chasing greatness. I was chasing the guys ahead of me. So when and if I get in,

it'll be one of the greatest honors and it'll let me know to be kind of a, kind of a, you know, pat on the back or a hey, you know what? The way you did it was right. Your mentality was right. You know, so that yes, that was always an end goal for me. I'd be lying if I said it wasn't, you know, because I wanted to be better than than the Derek Thomas's. I wanted to be better. You know, I wanted I wanted to track these guys down and do what they did at such an amazing level. I wanted to track these guys down and do what they did at such an amazing level.

I wanted to do it higher, better, faster. Those were always my motivating factors and stuff like that. So if it happens, it'll be a tremendous honor. I disagree with people who say it's going to change your life because that's just not the focus of my life. My kids aren't going to love me less. I still got a dish to do. You know what I mean? My daily life doesn't change just because you got a gold jacket or a purple jacket or anything like that. It'll be a badge of honor I wear proudly.

I would represent it to the fullest. But again, at the end of the day, it's a weird thing for them. You get built up and they're like, oh, you're not quite good enough. You're like, well, what could I have done? You're like, there's nothing you can do. It's a weird thing, too, because, by the way, you're not quite good enough. You're like, well, what could I have done? You're like, there's nothing you can do. It's a weird thing, too, because, like, by the way, you deserve it in our eyes. It's a when thing, not an if thing. And thank you for your contributions to the league.

But it's whenever you get to that point where you're on the bubble and, like, you've made it, you didn't make it, you didn't make it, they build you up. This is in all aspects, not just Hall of Fame. You get to the point there where the conversation isn't why you should make it. The conversation is why you shouldn't make they build you up this is in all aspects not just hall of fame you get to the point there where the conversation isn't why you should make it the conversation is why you shouldn't make it and it's like sometimes i think that can be a little bit overbearing for people like man i was pretty good like i'm still in the like i just think it's like a very weird thing i'm happy you're open about it can't wait for you to fucking go in there and i hope you ride a

goddamn horse in the canton too on one of those i'm thinking like a T-top freaking Burt Reynolds Camaro. Oh! With the freaking mullet flowing out. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah, your party's going to be incredible. Ty has a question for you. Straight mustache in it up. Oh, we got a handlebar.

You got a handlebar on that? You got it. That's something you got to go in with a handlebar, right? Can't wait to watch that. Can't wait to experience it. Go ahead, Ty. Your question for Jared Allen.

Jared, I don't know how locked in you are to the league on like a week-to-week basis now but it seemed like especially while you were playing everyone always talks about how there's maybe 10 to 12 teams going into the season who realistically have a chance to win a super bowl the parody this year though it seems like there are maybe four or five teams that are just head and shoulders above the rest of the league like if you are watching it on a week-to-week basis does it surprise you when you see teams like the Packers with Rodgers or you know the Bucks and Brady just not playing well this year like do you think the league is kind of starting to change in that aspect or no yeah I think you know so I I'm not like week-to-week

watching but I watch enough just so I can not be an idiot when I you know talk to you know you guys who got all the information. No. We don't know shit. By the way, I caught your tweet the other day about what you guys are doing, and it was hilarious. I love your response.

It's freaking great. Oh, thank you. You'll get into the Paffle Hall of Fame. To me, the more surprising thing is actually. Immediately. But, yeah, so I think, to me, the more surprising thing is actually Brady and the Bucs, right? Because they have the talent surrounding that. That, to me, is surprising. But Aaron, I think, doesn't surprise me.

And maybe AJ knows better. But for a while now, everything has been on Aaron. All the money went to Aaron. Like, it's Aaron, Aaron, Aaron, Aaron, Aaron. And at some point, you've got to have a supporting cast. I don't care how good you are, right? You're, you're, you're only one man. And so at some point, you know, you look at why Brady was successful.

You know, Brady was never, ever the, the, the, the, I mean, he, I think he was always the top five of the highest paid quarterbacks, but he wasn't, you know, always the top guy because he made sure he had a surrounding cast. And I think, I think that's kind of what you're seeing with some of these guys in the league this year is you're just not – you're seeing the emphasis put on maybe one aspect at the end of the game, like Green Bay, everything's put on Rodgers. And then the way they do it in Cincinnati,

I was talking about Cincinnati earlier, we've got to fix the old line. And they went out and they didn't really fix the old line, right? But they didn't put the emphasis on Burrow getting the ball out of his hand faster. Like that's a huge part of the problem with that offense is they don't get the ball. He does not get the ball out of his line, right? But they didn't put the emphasis on Burrow getting the ball out of his hand faster. That's a huge part of the problem with that offense. He does not get the ball out of his hand, right? Jared, you're saying you would eat that, huh?

That offensive line is something that you look at. Oh, the guy hangs onto the ball and they have a little bit of miss. We can eat and feast. It wouldn't even be an offensive line issue. You're holding on to the ball two and a half plus seconds, three seconds. I mean, you're getting smoked.

And so, and then you have a new offensive line, right, that the emphasis is put on. And, yeah, I think you're going to do things. Defensive coordinators are smart, too. I think that's the problem. Everybody wants to talk about this offensive driven, like, oh, he's an offensive guru. You give a defensive quarter you know our defensive

coordinator a year or somebody they're going to figure them out uh and you and just look at the battles case he's had with buffalo right you gave you they played each other enough times they got enough film that buffalo is no longer going to be surprised by my home it's a vice versa you know josh allen's not going to always get away with what he can get away with when you come up to a defense that can that can run at that level so i think that with what he can get away with when you come up to a defense that can run at that level. So I think that's what plays out. And so if you have too much emphasis on one position, it just eventually catches up to you, and that's where you fan out.

And I think that's where you see with the Vikings, all the emphasis was on Kurt when he first got there. And now you don't talk about Kurt that much because you have Jeffries, you have Cook playing well, you got Zrius on the defensive side, right? You've got all these guys, and you're looking like, wow, Kurt's kind of dominating this year. But that's not the position everyone's focused on. So I think they've got a better supporting cast,

and that's kind of why you're seeing these upper echelon of teams because it really is. They've figured out how to operate at a team at a high level and highly great players as well. AJ, last question for old Jared Allen, future Hall of Famer. I don't know the answer. I'm just asking who you have the most sacks against, which quarterback that may be, and do you have a favorite guy that you used to go against? Yeah, so I think it's Stafford. I think it's like 17 or

16 or 18's Stafford. I think it's like 17 or 16 or 18 against Stafford. Rodgers, I think, is 14 or 15. And to be honest, I always say playing someone like Aaron, I mean, you're playing with fire, but it's easier than playing a guy like Peyton, right? Because Aaron has those extra – because he can get outside the pocket, because he knows if he holds that ball for half a second longer, he can hit a bomb down the sideline to make you pay.

That gives you a chance to get there. When you play a guy like Peyton, even Brady or Breeze, that ball is out just so fast that you're really just rushing against the clock. It doesn't even matter what offensive lineman is in front of you because you're just trying to rush against the clock. So I always like playing with the guys that were top of the league. Everybody that said they were the more I wanted to hit you, hated you because you made more money than all of us,

and everybody thought you were great. And they whined and cried. Maybe one of that whining bitch when they got hit, that's who I wanted to hit. When Tom Brady starts yelling at his offensive lineman, because that stuff, when they come back on the field, he'd be like, uh-oh, dad, he's who I wanted to hit. Tom Brady starts yelling at his offense a lot. When they come back on the field, he's like, uh-oh, daddy's scolding you.

He's just messing with them. To be honest, those are the guys, sometimes you have more success against the special ones because they'll do a little action to give you a couple more shots at them. Well, everybody was playing against the special one. They're playing against you, pal. I'm

happy and thankful that you're getting honored in Minnesota. Can't wait to see the honor in Canton. Thank you for the time. Ladies and gentlemen, Vikings Ring of Honor member, future Hall of Famer, Cowboy. Fucking real life, huh? Real life Cowboy? Yeah, we were opening stuff up here, so

fuck it, because you got some videos. You ride bareback? Never. You ride with no saddle? Everything. What's that? Jeez. No saddle?

I grew up riding bareback because of my dad. You know, my dad would never buy me a kid's saddle, so he just threw me on the back of a horse in bareback. What a dog. So you're grabbing main there, right? You're holding on to main there? Yeah, if you need to. A lot of times, just balance, grip with your...

Jesus Christ. I like that. A fucking beast in between the thighs. Yeah, if you need to, a lot of times, just balance, grip with your, you know. Jesus Christ. That's it. A fucking beast in between the thighs. We're going to, I was trying, when I went hunting, I was trying to, you know, go hunt a buffalo, like, dances with the wolf style, you know, very bad, dirty, like Marla action. I don't think anybody wanted to put that on TV. I think Peter got a little too busy. You're showcasing a great animal, though, and the horse. I think the horse deserves a lot more credit than the entire thing.

They don't ever say that. Ladies and gentlemen, Jared Allen. Yeah, dude! Joining us now from his place in Green Bay. For the third season in a row, we have been blessed with the opportunity every single Tuesday to chit-chat with the back-to-back NFL MVP. That doesn't change this year. The team is now three and five. How will he respond? Will he show up? Yes, he will. Can't wait for it. Ladies and gentlemen, Aaron Rodgers. Whoa. Whoa. Oh, my God. Whoa.

Hey, guys. Whoa. What? Hey, you look you look good. You look young, clean shaven. Is this when did we make this decision? Did it change after Halloween and did you dress up uh for halloween this season i did i did we had a nice skiffy last night one that i probably won't be fine for oh that's very nice and uh it was it was coming i wanted to trim down a little bit, but it fit the outfit. I don't know if there's any pictures out there yet, but it wasn't a great outfit. I mean, it was definitely better than AJ's attempt the other day that I saw. What about that match? That was just creepy.

Two hours? You should have worn that at the function that you had at your house at one time when I showed up in my eyes wide shut outfit. You had your own deal. Maybe I will. Maybe in the future. I appreciate that. But it was Halloween.

It's supposed to be creepy, right? What type of skin wearing shit are you guys going to? What is going on? You were there the next year, Pat. Oh, yeah. That was that type of event. You're right. Yeah, you're 100% right.

That is that type of event. A lot of crazy stuff going on out there in Columbus, man. What did you dress up as? My outfit was, I was Jim from The Office as Dave. If you're familiar with Jim's kind of no outfit outfits that he would do for Halloween, he showed up one year just in his regular suit and put a hello, my name is Dave uh name tag on his shirt that's what i went as uh and it doesn't matter uh really other than maybe last year over all the years where i've had a costume it's it was about the same about three people knew what i was half the people

thought i was you know myself in a in the future as a non-player, what my daily garb was going to be. But no, I was Jim from The Office. There were a couple of really good outfits. Definitely shout out to Josiah and his girl went as the – she was Willy Wonka and he was the blue – yeah, that's the picture right there. So it went kind of like that. And he was the blueberry, the kid that turned into a blueberry.

Violet Beauregard, yeah. Yeah. Josh Myers and his girl went as Grapes and were the most fun, probably people having the most fun of the whole party, which was great. Pat O'Donnell and his wife went as Ken and Barbie. Pat got a nice spray tan before it, so he was looking good,

which I'm not sure if that's going to rub off by this weekend, so check out his beautiful spray tan he's got. He's probably yoked up, too. You've got a good body. You put a good spray tan on. You're dressing as Ken. What a night for Pat O'Donnell. How were the vibes, though?

I think this is important. You guys still did the Halloween party. Was there any conversations about maybe not doing it because how the season's going? Or has that conversation creeped into your locker room at all about, hey, this year's not going good. Let's do low vibes. Or was that ever a part of it, you think? I think one of the most important things is hanging out together and and that chemistry and it wasn't a uh you know as these parties are never

going to be 100 attendance but uh there was a strong contingent especially from the offensive side that showed up we'd love hanging out together you know we do our weekly o-line dinner together and so we had 100 attendance from the offensive line and from the quarterback group uh danny etling and his girlfriend kendall went to uh goose and maverick i believe from top gun you're thinking danny had a real mustache he shaved too which was nice uh a la miles teller's dirty mustache good body though miles teller bad good body. You know what I mean? He was doing that dancing thing. J-Lo and his girl, Veronica, were disco. So she already had the hair, and it was big, and he had a big wig on. So that was good.

Bakhtiari went as the milkman, and his wife was the housewife. So that was an interesting outfit. He would be, by the way. How'd you grow? I must highlight our Lord and Savior, Royce Newman, went as Jesus, and

his girl, Sabina, went as Mary Magdalene, I believe. That's good. That's smart. That's a good callback. A couple thousand years. Not as old as horses. But that callback is a couple thousand years. Which will be a foreshadowing to the book that I highlight today.

The Bible! Let's go! You're giving us the Bible? Just like you're giving us the Bible? That's going to be this season's this one? It's the Book of Mormon, actually. Okay! I'm excited to learn about it. Don't give away the lead. This season's this one? It's the Book of Mormon, actually. Okay. I'm excited to learn about it. Don't give away the lead.

We'll dive into that later. But I think that's a big deal, everybody hanging out. Especially whenever things go bad, there's an opportunity for people to hate each other and bash each other and want to stay away from each other and linger away from each other. It sounds like everybody's together still. That's good news. Good vibes.

AJ, your question for Aaron? I think it's fucking great news, actually. No, I think it's awesome. You guys should probably hang out. When things are tough, hang out more. But I wonder, do you guys, where do the invites come? Where do they stop? Do you invite the coaching staff?

I'm sure you've probably seen the old classic clip. Randy Moss goes into Bill Belichick's office and invites him to their team Halloween skating party, and Bill and Linda show up in full garb, which I thought was amazing. Pir oh yeah the invites it was just players only players only no kids so you would have to find a sitter age which has often been an excuse for you not to show up even though your wife is always on top of it up even though your wife is always on top of it. But you're just such a primate.

Oh, bad teammate. Add a quick fake wall in your piss cups, finesse a table. But no, it was just players only. It was players only. And we had a good contendent show. It was fun. But the best part is

it was at Terror on the Fox. And for age, you know, you've been there before, but there's this haunted train that you ride over. And then there's like a haunted maze and a haunted house you go through. And we had a good time. Most of the fun was had by me and Bobby Tunyon of doing our own scaring.

And being in a group with Ida Cobb and Shelby O'Donnell, those are two of the easiest people in the world to scare, we found out. So we had a lot of fun hiding behind some of the walls and doing our own scaring. All right, good. Happy, you were at Terrorize on Fox. Is that what you said? Terrorize Fox? Terror on the Fox.

Oh, okay. I thought you said Terrorizing the Fox. Jesus Christ. Sounds like a good time. Need to get to it in one year. It sounds like things are good when it comes to camaraderie-wise. Camaraderie-wise. Whenever we talk about that Sunday night football game,

you guys were 10.5 point dogs going into it. You even chatted about how this is good news. Our team is being counted out, kind of an underdog thing. You lose to the Bills. It didn't look great. Is there anything you guys take from these games? Because there's still everything in front of you. You've got a Lions team right now that just traded away their best fucking player

on the offensive side in Detroit this weekend, and you still have everything in front of you. What is the messaging? How are you guys talking about the season? And how do you think you're going to kind of right the ship, you think, Aaron? Well, there's never any moral victories. I never really believe in that. I think there's things you can take from certain games

that might give you confidence moving forward. But, you know, we've never really been a moral victory team in Green Bay. We're about wins. And when you're not having wins and you're slumping, I think the most important thing is just to see how we deal with adversity and if we're going to stick together. I haven't really seen any negative clips, so I'm assuming that means that we stuck together in the postgame

and nobody was kind of throwing shade on anybody else or passing the blame, which is important. Yeah, everything is kind of in front of us. There's a lot of teams in that 4-4, 3-5 range. We still have nine games left. There's a lot to play for. Obviously, this is an important stretch for us coming up because we've got a division opponent,

and then we have two games in a week with Dallas, who's obviously playing well, and then Tennessee is playing well. Both games at home, which is great. But, you know it's November football now the weather's continuing to turn and we need to be playing our best football moving forward so you know it's a strong look at all those different things that go into that I think in general we all just got to play a little bit better I mean that's the most important thing and we still haven't played a complete game we're still looking for that for eight weeks

that's disappointing but the way it goes we've had a lot of injuries, you know, which hasn't helped us. You know, I thought there was, you know, a call that definitely went against us in the game on the Tanyan touchdown. Hey, that's bullshit. You said, hey, I know it's, you have to be nice to refs. Sounded like it looked like, or looked like it was a little bit difficult for you to potentially lay off that potential call there. I mean, that's a game changer, right? I mean, that's a momentum changer, you think. You view it that way?

It can be. You know, it's a different game, 27-10, 27-14. You know, it's two scores and three scores. So that was, you know, disappointing. It was 24-7 at the time. It would have been 24-14. Just watching that back and then talking about Bobby on the bus afterwards because you never know.

The emotions are that there's no way that was a penalty. And just to feel it when I came off the fake, it looked like he was getting held. And I looked back to Sammy on the backside, and he was kind of gloved. And so then I peeked back to Bobby, and I saw him break free. Sammy on the backside, and he was kind of gloved. And so then I peeked back to Bobby, and I saw him break free. You know, my thing was they're hand-fighting, for one.

And if you're going to call, if you're on that guy the whole time, you know, the ref had number one on the play. Like, if you want to call OPI, then you have to call a corresponding hold, which happened before that, and then have offsetting plays. To me, it felt like they were hand-fighting. The guy was grabbing Bobby. He just slapped his arm off, and he fell down and probably would have been a no-call there. But more than that, losing Christian Watson early hurt us

because we had a lot of things in the plan for him. And obviously Elton, 90 minutes before the game, find out he's not going to play, which is somewhere the last week with Dave. So then we're moving guys around and moving pieces around and adjusting some things in the offense. We just, you know, we need to get healthy. And I don't think that's going to be full health this week. We'll see what nine status will be.

We'll see what Allen's status will be. We'll see what Elton's status will be. But we need all those guys moving forward if we're going to try and put something together and make a run. Doesn't sound like you've given up hope, which is great news. Sounds like nobody has over there, especially if everybody's still going to Halloween parties and hanging out with each other. But the time's going to come quick.

I mean, we're running against it here as the season rolls on, almost entering week nine here, halfway through the season. Ty, your question for Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, Aaron, I didn't see the video, but I read a quote that you said, you know, last week during practice, it actually kind of felt like you guys were the Packers again. And then, you know, Dobbs had that unbelievable catch where, you know, dotted him. And then Toure late in the game had kind of that route where he almost made his own decision, it looked like, and went to the open space and you found him.

Is that the type of stuff you're talking about where you're finding more confidence in these guys and was that something you saw in practice this week where it's like hey okay i can maybe start to trust these guys a little bit more because although it's not translating to wins necessarily like they are kind of starting to pick things up and and and get a little bit better well we need all those guys to be confident we need them to play with confidence last week when when I said about feeling like the Packers, it was more just we're practicing like a good football team. I don't feel like we had consistently been doing that week to week. And there's been times over the past where you have some rough weeks of practice

or things don't look perfect and you go out and just light it up. And there's been times where you practice incredible and go out on the field and have a hard time scoring. So it doesn't always correlate, but the feeling of it, the energy, it just felt better. Pre-game, this was the first game of the season where it really felt like we were ready to play, like energetically. And that's a weird thing to put your finger on,

but it's more just a feeling that we're dialed in and we're locked in and ready to go. And, again, obviously it doesn't translate to a win, but that energy I think is encouraging for us moving forward. When it comes to Samari, you know, I had a conversation with him weeks ago about kind of projecting how the season would go. And I just said to him, I think you're too talented to be a healthy scratch every week.

And I think it's possible for you and even probable that you need to be suiting up and, and making plays by mid season. And I don't think that was like, you know, maybe some, uh, you know, spark plug for him to get going and start practicing better, but he has been practicing really well. And I have been proud of the effort he's been showing during the week. And then he goes out in the field and makes a really nice adjustment play uh you know on a play where he's supposed to be running a big post down the field i kind of come back to the left we block it up nicely and he just naturally twirls out to the opposite side and and makes a catch and that's a big moment for a kid you know i was

real proud of him came down the end zone zone, congratulated him. I said, hang on to that ball, kid. That'll be a fun one to have in your office down the line to remember your first touchdown catch. So really proud of him. I'm happy for him. I like what I've been seeing at practice from him. Romeo, the talent is there. I love Rome.

Just an excellent kid. Does all the little things well. The game within the game I've talked about. a good teammate to taking notes and meetings you know being sharp and then just little things that he does around the facility just respect to the to the workers of the cafeteria workers to the trainer trainers the equipment staff the young guys working in there I just like the way it goes about his business. And all that to be said, we just need him to play confidently on the field. And when he does, you know, he's a great hands catcher, and he makes plays for us.

So we've got to keep building with him, get nine going if we can get him back, get Allen back hopefully. Randall will be back in a few weeks. And Sammy, you know, we've got to just make the plays that are there. We can do that. We're going to run the football well. I've said a lot of weird things with offensive line and a lot of different starting fives,

but I definitely haven't given up any hope. Yeah, you guys had over 200 yards rushing. You know what I mean? And it was fun to watch. That's against a Buffalo Bills defense that is very, very good, and it felt like in the middle of the field, a couple different drives in a row, Aaron would spark something, then A. Then AJ would come in and get going. It feels like the blueprint is there. Do you feel that? Do you feel like you guys are getting closer to what you could potentially

be to be the best offense that you need to be to make a run at this thing? Or do you still think you guys are trying to figure it out? I think we're trying to figure it out still. I mean, we can rush for 200, but if you lose by two scores, you know, exactly go back and say that's what we're going to do every single week. I think there was things they showed us that allowed us to do that. And then just those two guys are so reliable. I mean, they really are. You love going to battle with those guys because they're so sharp and smart. And then they just never go down the first guy.

I mean, you watch some of the runs that 33 makes, and a guy who weighs under 200 pounds are just outstanding. I mean, it's ridiculous. You know, his ability to slip off of blocks and he's just never really down. He never can count them out. And at 28, running behind his pads, he's one of the, got some of the best hands on the team, catches the ball well. And you love playing with those guys. You really do. So I'm not sure what the blueprint's going to be, but I will say this, you know, you know and i felt this you know like six years ago when you're in a rut you know sometimes it just takes one it just takes that one game to remind you you know who you are and what you're capable of and once you get that one i think everybody can just like take a breath and relax and go, okay, now we've

reset. Now let's get going. So we've been hoping, you know, it wasn't going to get to a four game streak, but we've got an opportunity this week as a division opponent on the road to have that feeling, to take that breath and then to, you know, have that reset and hopefully put some things together. We're obviously here on trade deadline day. There's an hour and 32 minutes left until the trade window closes in the NFL. We've been keeping an eye. Denver Broncos just traded Chubb, defensive end to Miami Dolphins.

Damn. So Miami Dolphins are in the game. Chase Claypool traded to the Chicago Bears earlier today. Allegedly, your team, Packers, were in on that conversation. Bears outbid for Chase Claypool to join Justin Fields in the offense after trading Roquan Smith and Robert Quinn out of Chicago. You didn't know what to expect. Obviously, I asked you last week and then probably the week before about trade deadline and things like that.

And it's an interesting question to ask you because a couple years back, the conversation was that you were never asked for your opinion on anything. In the whole world, the new football was like, well, why would you not ask the best ball thrower of all time his opinion on who he's going to play football with? As this trade deadline is coming up now, we're against it, you know, hour and 30 minutes basically and some change. Are you keeping an eye on it? Are you checked out on it?

Are you sick of talking about it? How do you feel about trade deadline and what the Packers are doing? Well, the trade deadline has really become an interesting thing. I think earlier in my career, there wasn't a whole lot of movement ever at the break. Agreed. There wasn't big names going. There wasn't big names going. You know, you weren't seeing, you know, starters, pro bowlers,

all pro guys switch teams as frequently or anywhere. I mean, it just never really happened. It was so rare. It was almost like, whoa, who got traded? What? And now it's way more common. I don't know if it's because there's – I'm not going to call it tanking, but there's teams that are really valuing those draft picks and looking at guys maybe in the last year of their contract

or maybe a year to go in a contract that they don't feel like they can retain or they're going to want to retain and try to get some value for them. So you're seeing more of that. Obviously, you know, we're what, 4 Eastern I think is the cutoff maybe. So we're coming up on it. Hopefully, I was kind of hoping there might be, you know, some news during this show that we could break in live time. That would be pretty cool.

I have had conversations with Brian, you know, the past few weeks. I'm not sure what's going to happen. But I know that we've, you know, I'm not surprised to hear that maybe we were in on the clay pool. And then we'll see what happens. Brandon Cook's allegedly not at practice today for Houston. His name's been up in conversation with the Green Bay Packers for a while. It sounds like Aaron.

Are they practicing on Tuesday? Is it like? Apparently. Thursday night, Ken. Oh, yeah, they have Thursday night. Okay, okay, that makes sense. No, but also some teams have Monday day off. Tuesday they're back in the building.

It's fucked me up as a person that talks into this microphone every day. I'm like, why the fuck's the guy at the building? That's the word. Yeah, it is. It's interesting. But you're thinking maybe something happens. Maybe something does happen. A lot of big names moving around. AJ, your question for old Aaron Rogers. We have different offensive guys getting traded

around the league. How tough would it be for a receiver to go from one team to another midseason and actually be dropped into their system? Do you have to come up with just a little package at first for this person, or how long does it take to actually understand the offense? It depends. There's so many teams running our similar system. I think if you had a guy in that system,

you could really plug and play for the most part with probably seven or eight teams, at least at this point. Who's that? That's the Shanahan? Yeah. So, yeah, like I've said in the past, the Niners are running it. Rams are running it. We're running it.

Atlanta, Tennessee, Cincinnati. Philly. Niner. What? Philly. Philly. Is Philly running Philly. Miami. Philly. Is Philly running? Who do they have from our system?

Oh, no, no. It's the Jets. Minnesota? It's the Jets that have the little four. Minnesota. Yeah, Minnesota's running it. Yeah, so there's like eight or nine teams probably that run similar offense. So you could plug and play a guy like that from one of those teams.

With somebody else, you'd probably – look, it's a lot of the same plays. But with somebody else, you probably – look, it's a lot of the same plays. A lot of the same terminology for them. This has been passed down through iterations over the years. But, yeah, you'd probably give them a 10 or 15 play thing to start if it was somebody from a different system and then slowly work them in. But, look, a goal ball is a goal ball, a slant is a slant, a curl is a curl, a shallow cross is a shallow cross in most of these offenses. So it wouldn't be, I don't think, as difficult as some of the storylines can make it seem.

Is your thumb doing anything for you right now? I just thought about a go ball, about you throwing one. Any difference in your hand throwing this year? Because I saw you with the tape on. There wasn't tape, then there was tape, then there was tape, then there's no tape. It's just kind of something you feel as you go, or you feel like it is something you've got to worry about a little bit on a thumb? Yeah, I mean, I wanted to tape it up just for a little extra protection Sunday night,

and it felt fine. Every now and then I might have a couple snaps under center that jar it a little bit, but for the most part it was fine all night. You're taking some shots, dude. You know that. You're taking some shots these days. You feeling it like an old man or no? Are you good?

I definitely feel it a little more over the last few years, Mondays and Tuesdays. Just kind of the way things go. A little bit more sore in those days, but for the most part, by the time I get to Wednesday, I feel pretty good. Okay, yeah, because I'm seeing you, you know, take your chin strap off while you're picking yourself up, and you've got the long johns on. I'm like, damn, this dude is taking a couple big-time shots. And I'm happy to hear you're okay. All right, hey, happy to hear you're okay. Let's keep this thing going.

Hey, no problem. Connor has a question for you. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Aaron, there's a lot of talk after the game of the Jair-Diggs exchange before. How do you feel about kind of coming out of the tunnel at the same time? And also, did you even notice it when it was happening in real time? Or is that something you saw after the game?

Well, I did see some other tunnel incidents that happened across our sport. But it is a little different when you go in the same tunnel. We were coming out for pregame warm-ups, and they were kind of amassing by their locker room entrance as well. It's not. I mean, look, it's all pros, so there's going to be those conversations, but I don't know. I mean, that's just normal trash talk to me,

and those are two great competitors. I thought both their responses at the end of the game were pretty funny. You encountering any different shit talk this season as opposed to years past? I know you love a good shit talk. I know you love good competitive banter. Have you been experiencing that more this year than maybe years past because teams are taking advantage of the situation here early in the season a little bit more? Or is everybody like Aaron O.G. kind of talk to you? No, there's some definitely some people that enjoy shit-talking regardless who's playing quarterback, and I like those, man. I feel

like you're, you know, kind of a part of the game and gets the juices going a little bit, so I always enjoy that. There's been some good ones, for sure. There's been some real bad ones, you know, someone just like, I don't even know how to respond to you. It's like that, for sure. There's been some real bad ones. Someone just like, I don't even know how to respond to you. It's like that line from Hangover, right? That Ed Helms

says to Zach Galifianakis, you are literally too stupid to insult. Right? Sometimes, every now and then it's like that. But for the most part, it's good. It's good banter back and forth. Sometimes some guys get real personal and then you might have to say something back to them or just lock that away in the old memory bank.

But when you're getting beat, not a whole lot you can say to some of the shit talk. You just got to get beat. It's a different world for you guys. It's a different world for LeFleur right now too. A lot is being made of what his record was coming into the season versus what it is right now. And obviously a couple games under 500, people are going to say that.

Is your relationship with LeFleur anything different this year than it has been in year pass? And how are the conversations gone with how everything has kind of started this particular season with LeFleur? Yeah, I mean, it is a little different. It definitely is. It's better. Oh.

Nice. Huh? That was 12-6. Yeah. Fucking dropped right off the table. Yeah, it was a little curveball right there. Nobody could have expected it. It's because you guys are around each other longer and you just have a relationship.

Yeah, we've been around each other for a long time. It's a good rhythm you get into during the week and the conversations. And just the trust and, you know, it's – and this is generally how it goes. You know, as you get closer with a coach, there become more conversations about actually the non, you know, access and those stuff. It's more about the character of the team and the confidence of the team and the vibe and the energy that we have. And yeah, Matt and I are always kind of connected in conversations and really appreciate that relationship. And, you know, it's on the leadership of the football team and that includes him and staff to continue to keep it together and to be putting out the right energy and the right mindset

and the right words to get guys to know that, hey, there's still a lot to play for, you know, but at the same time there's got to be a lot of accountability about the way we have played. I concur. Earlier, you mentioned everyone just needs to play a little bit better. How do you do that? Every coach in the world is trying to figure that out.

Is there any actionable steps guys can take to, like, hey, we're all going to get better? Well, that's a good question, Edge, and I don't know if I have a perfect answer for you, but I think there's two parts where we can control every single week, and one is the preparation. And so how are we preparing? How are we note-taking during the week? What are we doing during our off time? That's number one that we can always look at.

And number two is practice habits, and I think those are really, really important. And like I said, last week was the first week i felt like we really practiced like a good football team um but how are we practicing what habits are we putting out there how much are we critiquing ourselves in practice and and uh how quickly are we able to absorb a plan that goes in the morning and then go out and execute that on the field in practice. So I think those are two ways that you can set yourself up to play better. When it gets to the game, you know, a lot of it is just, you know, playing with confidence and being able to react quickly and being able to have a mind that's not cluttered,

a mind that's moving quickly but not over-racing. And a lot of that stuff is just learned. But I think if you really can win games Monday to Saturday if you're preparing the right way and then if you're practicing the right way. And we just obviously haven't been doing that. Isn't it crazy that whenever you get in those big moments, you rely on your fundamentals, and your fundamentals only come from your preparation.

And the people that prepare the most are normally the ones who are the most confident people because the confidence comes from the preparation. But we hear a couple of quotes from somebody in the past that goes like, practice, we're talking about practice. It's like Allen Iverson might have been an anomaly. I think a lot of other people need to realize how important practice is on a regular basis.

And it feels like you guys are going through those growing pains right now because that's not like a – like that's – you know, like I was very lucky to be a part of – I got a chance to go see Tarek Glenn go into the Ring of Honor this week and catch up with that first generation of team that I came into the league with. And those dudes practice. They're at, like, every rep in practice. There's no balls on the ground. If there's a ball on the ground, everybody's pissed off.

Everybody's fully invested in everything. Practice matters. And there was, like, a couple younger guys that I was a part of. I didn't fully understand that yet. I'm like, if I hit a shank here, this does not matter at all. And then all of a sudden, as you get older, it's like, oh, the reason why Vinatieri is Vinatieri, or the reason why these guys are the best is because Wednesday's reps are a direct indicator of what Sunday's reps are going to be. And on Sunday, if you're having a bad day, you can rely upon all the work you put in.

Are those growing pains you think you're seeing? Not only your team go through but most young guys kind of go through there right that's a really mature way to look at things and you guys need it to happen quickly it sounds like right well i think that's the general progression for young players is there's uh there's a time where practice becomes less pressure filled and more performance driven and what i mean by that is you're less worried about making mistakes and you're more able to be focused and centered on how important your performance on that and the individual play is and then to expand on that there's a way of scripting

for practice that allows for a player to learn how to practice and i think it's a vital part of of uh of any team and a responsibility that's really important for the scripter of practice because you have the opportunity to set up that individual rep for one person two people or the entire offense to make an adjustment to re to react and to be able to lock a memory into your brain that can help you on Sunday. And I think we haven't quite fully grasped that, that every single rep matters. Otherwise, why would Adam Stinovich be spending all his time trying to script, you know, the perfect practice rep? We're wasting his time. If we go into a walkthrough and don't anticipate,

hey, we have a base call on here, what could Adam possibly script here that's going to help us have a memory that can be locked into our brain so when on Sunday we get into a game and we see the same look, we can go, oh yeah, I remember Wednesday, morning walkthrough, whatever play that was, this is the look that we got. We made this call and this was right. And I think that's when you can make that jump is to be able to understand that there are no wasted reps ever. Every rep matters. Every rep's important.

And that's the respect I think you showed to the person's job is the script practice because they spend a lot of time thinking this over. And the last thing we want is people to just go into a robot mode where you're just like autopilot, you know, not even thinking about this. The most important thing is to be so locked in that you can anticipate what could this guy possibly script for us that's going to help us get better on this play for this specific sequence. And I don't think we're quite there yet. But this last week was a step in the right direction.

I think that's a very mature thing to have to do, though. I think that is a mature mindset that older teams kind of have, and I was very lucky to be dropped into one there and kind of see how it all operates. Is that something you guys could have thought about when you're coming in like a brand-new team almost? I mean, a lot of similar guys, but younger in pretty key positions. Is that something you thought or even could have thought of coming into the season,

maybe being something like, oh, yeah, even practices are different. It's not just games that are different. Has it been a very eye-opening experience here? And I don't want to say without Devontae, but has it been an eye-opening experience without your number one guy? And how do you think, you know, like brighter days are ahead? Well, I think, Pat, I don't know if that's something you can really necessarily plan for i think there's an important thing to learn as a young player

that i learned and that was that i'm going to watch the eldest person in my position room and see how they did it and mimic as many of those things those habits those ways of those things, those habits, those ways of doing things that I like or don't understand yet or want to incorporate into my game as quickly as I possibly can. And then anything I want to do differently, then I do differently. I do it on my own. But as a young player, the most important thing you should be doing is looking to those guys in your room, those veteran guys, and how they do it. Because we've had some incredible practice players over the years who just lead by example. You know, the Julius Peppers of the world, the Ryan Grants,

you know, Donald Driver's practice habits. These guys who set the standard for, like, there's no wasted reps, we finish to the end zone every time. Ryan Grant changed that whole thing for our practice because every single run he had, he would run to the end zone. It doesn't matter if we were on the minus 20 or the plus 20. And that just changed the way we did things. There was no wasted reps.

There was no half-ass reps. And I think, you know, as an older player, I think sometimes you just almost assume, I guess, that a young player is going to watch the habits and want to mimic the oldest person in the room what they're doing. But we've had to reset some of those things because we haven't maybe had that sink in, how important every single rep is when you step on the field. It's crazy to think about because it is very – But I don't think that – let me just expand that.

Pat, sorry to cut you off there. I don't think that – I really don't think that's a Green Bay problem. So I'm not saying this is – I think this is across the league. I really think this is a young player thing that you've got to figure to figure out you got to watch the older guys in the group how they do things and study that and and learn how to practice and learn how to be a pro and it takes time it definitely takes time but um but we're into the season now and we should be practicing a certain way like we finally did last week okay so hopefully we can grow upon that i think we just had a great practice conversation about how it matters you know know what I mean? A lot of people forget about that. How

important is it's very mature thinking. Excited to see if the Green Bay Packers team can continue to be the team that is preparing on Wednesdays, Thursdays, and Fridays for Sunday. Now it is time to prepare our brains to get better, isn't it? We've been a part of something here for at least a year where we feel like we're adding to society we're making society a better place normally our particular program makes the world worse makes sports media worse sure makes the world dumber not with this particular segment no no no ladies and gentlemen it is time for the latest installment of the aaron rogers book club last week he gave us the book Healing,

which was brought to you by a man named David Elliott. Two Ts. It's about how to breathe and recenter yourself and refocus on what matters and what doesn't matter. Then there was obviously the mastery of love, the outliers, the war of the gods. And now, ladies and gentlemen, it is time for book six

of the Aaron Rodgers Book Club 2.0. It is... First of all, I want to say thanks to Foxy who ever put together that graph. So, that image of me. How do I be dirty? Yeah. I look pretty jacked right there.

So, big thanks to Foxy. You are jocked. You are very jocked. So jocked. Very jocked. Very jocked. Yeah, yeah. But today's book is a really fascinating book that definitely tests the dogma that so many of us grew up with, but it's called The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross by John Allegro.

It looks sort of. Oh, The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross. Talking about dogma, which is living for other people's dreams or something like that, right? Trying to prove other people right? Yeah, that's, no, I don't think that's dogma. No, dogma is doing something you don't love. Steve Jobs had a quote about dogma, I think. Didn't he?

You're living, hmm. Be a dog. But anyway, that's dogma. It's not that you're not eating. It's not be a dog. It's a principle or set of principles laid down by an authority as incontrovertibly true. Excuse me. Man.

Wow. It's D-O-G-M-A, not dog. D-A-W-G-M-A. That's what I was thinking. It's D-O-G-M-A. So this book is about the mushroom and the sacred cross. This is about, because you said it was about Jesus Christ earlier, didn't you? Is there a little bit of religion?

It tests the Bible a little bit. It's about... Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. It's this guy. This guy interpreted the... Spent decades interpreting the Dead Sea Scrolls. And in that interpretation, he comes up with a hypothesis about the Bible

and what it was really written for for and about and it's interesting and you know i was talking uh about how i think it's important to read uh information in books that test our own um initial feelings on things you know to live in a world where we just confirm our own bias all the time or we live in echo chamber, it doesn't really allow us to grow at all, but when we read books or articles or interesting things, anecdotes about things that kind of test things that we had learned as a kid,

maybe, or patterns or conditioning or dogma in this case, I think it's good. You don't have to believe everything in this book. It is fascinating and it is incredible research and it is an interesting hypothesis and I think it's a good read for anybody who

enjoys expanding their brain a little bit and also who is interested in the history of mushrooms. Oh, so it's about chirpy mushrooms too? Yeah, it's about a certain type of mushroom that's been used in biased societies

dating way, way, way back. It's actually... Peanut butter. Were they putting in peanut butter? A fun side note is that the same type of mushroom that he's talking about in this book was the mushroom that set the genesis of the Santa Claus

myth, which is... What? Excuse me? Santa's not real? It's November 1st, dude. Jeez Louise. If you're watching this, I don't think so. Brian Carey just came out of hibernation. Hold on.

Do they talk about grinding up the mushrooms, though, like in a coffee grinder, and then putting it in peanut butter sandwiches so you don't really taste it? Right, like crew roll-ups. Two to four hours of a great time. Is that what they're talking about? Is that the mushroom?

We're talking about the same mushroom here? Not necessarily, no. I think I could have created Santa in some of those, you know what I mean, after I have some of those peanut butter sandwiches. I can't wait for it. How many pages? How many pages is that book? It's pretty long.

It's over 375 oh we'll save that for you but it's really uh it's about let me see there's a little uh yeah there's a long into it's about 275 275 that ain't bad compared to other pages of uh index so is there photos in that pictures in that thing there's i mean it's not like a coloring book or anything there's there's a couple pictures but not too many okay maybe maybe a coloring book one of these weeks for your old friend pat but it ain't nothing on like it's the 500 page fingerprints of the gods here you know what i mean 500 pager this is still the best one we've ever had earlier i thought you know you had... Shout out Graham Hancock.

Fuck yeah, dude. Hell yeah. Hey, Graham, this ought to take you seven years to write. Love you, Graham. I can't thank you enough for all the big brain stuff you did. I thought earlier, though, you were alluding to maybe having the Bible. Because remember Jesus and Mary Magdalene were dressed up at the Halloween party, and you said, oh, that's a little teaser for the book club. I'm like, he's putting the Bible out there I was

excited for that maybe next week maybe next week something to think about I don't think I'm going to have the Bible in the book club but I have nothing still the best seller a lot of copies of the Bible have been sold yeah and if he does that one though a lot of different styles

what did you grow up what version of the Bible did you grow up reading? King James, of course. Yeah, of course. It was the King James one, which is obviously the best version. I fucking have no idea. Every once in a while, I'll go into a hotel. I'll pull out a fucking little drawer.

Boom, right there. Every single time. I'm like, let me dive in here. Take a couple of your magical mushrooms, maybe some of your ayahuasca, maybe smoke some vitamins. Pretty cool shit. There's a lot of good stuff. Seems like they're just trying to tell tales of people doing bad stuff so the kids won't do it. And maybe it was kind of taken out of proportion, but hey, if it's going to get me into heaven so I can have a good time for eternity, I'll continue to dive in. AQ, you got a tattoo of a cross on your shoulder there,

which did you think maybe the Bible was going to be this week's book club? How excited were you for it? I thought it was coming. I grew up big time Catholic. Was that King James' version? Yeah, sure. King James' version. How much of that did you... Did you get to be an altar boy? Oh, come on. Did you?

I grew up Catholic, too. Get your heads out of the gutter. I grew up Catholic. Went to Penn State, altar boy. Did you? You went to Penn State? I grew up Catholic, too. Get your heads out of a gutter. I grew up Catholic. Well, he went to Penn State, so automatically. Went to Penn State, altar boy. Jesus Christ. Yeah, yikes. Is everything okay? You really picked a couple winners, didn't you?

All right, Aaron. Sorry for taking up your time. I know you've got to get better every single day. Just got to get better. We appreciate you stopping by. The face looks amazing. You look young. Hey, thanks, guys.

Appreciate it. What do you got today? Hey, have a great day, huh? I'm going to, you know, get into some film, and we've got a beautiful day in Green Bay out here. Oh, yeah. Not going to be too many of these left, so maybe I'll take it. Yeah, maybe go rollerblading or something outside.

Oh, hell yeah. Clear your mind. Rollerblade a little bit around Green Bay. Ladies and gentlemen, Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, Aaron Rodgers! What trades happened while we were talking to aaron rogers obviously chubb goes to the miami dolphins from the denver broncos he was allegedly on the trade block for the last couple weeks the dolphins flip a deal uh flip a uh a pick that they got from the trey lance trade with the niners end up getting chubb the dolphins were not finished though the dolphins Dolphins also got Jeff Wilson from the San Francisco 49ers. He was the starter before Christian McCaffrey got

to town. He knows McDaniel's offense. McDaniel knows him. He has done well with the Niners. The Dolphins making plays on this trade deadline Tuesday. Gumpy's probably loving it. We should probably call him in a second. What does this mean, you think, to all of Miami? That not only are they going all-in round two, they bring in Tyreek Hill in the offseason. Now they're bringing in Chubb and Jeff Wilson. They know that they got a team and they're going for it. I fucking love it in South Beach, AJ. That's what the NFL is now. I feel like we are in a time where people think, hey, our window is open. We need to do whatever we possibly can to win right now.

Like, we don't – yeah, they're planning for the future, but they know their future may – I may not be here in the future, so I'm going to win right now. And I think it's a great time to be a fan of the NFL because this is awesome to watch. And if you think about the owner, Stephen Ross, he was being alleged of trying to lose games in the NFL. There was a lot of very serious allegations being said

about the owner of the Dolphins for a long, loud amount of time. Now they're making moves. They're paying everybody. They're having a winning season. Probably trying to write that narrative, if you're Stephen Ross, by going all in. McDaniel probably loves it, and I don't know the GM. But joining us now, a man who's been a Dolphin fan since birth.

He's from the north-left part of Canada. He loves the southeast team of Miami Dolphins. Ladies and gentlemen, a man we all miss, stuck in Canada, not allowed in America, Gumpy. How we doing, boys? I'm grinning like the butcher's dog, Gumpy. You got Chubb. You get Jeff Wilson.

You brought in Tyreek Hill. It feels like it's a great time to be a Dolphins fan. How do you like these moves, Dolphins fan Gump? It's a damn shame I won't be allowed in the country to see him in the Super Bowl. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hopefully by then, right? Yeah, what? Who's the quarterback?

Fucking awesome, dude. This is the best. Greatest thing ever. Dolphins all in for once. I love it. Dolphins all in for once. I love it. Dolphins all in for once. What happens if they don't make a run, though, Gump? Is it going to be tragic if they lose in the first round?

Building up expectations. You guys are supposed to be good now. Is that what you're saying, AJ? Kind of. Oh, no. Longer fall. Oh, no. Why are you doing that, AJ? Are we Super Bowl or bust, I'm saying? Are the Dolphins like, hey, now this is the expectation. We are Super Bowl or bust.

Is that where we are moving forward? Yeah, happily. I don't think so. Not this year. But you paid Chubb, right? You paid Chubb this year. Go into next year. I mean, the Bills and the Chiefs are still the top of the AFC.

There's no denying that. But it's just positive for the Dolphins for once. Like, this is awesome. This is the best time I've ever had in my life being a Dolphins fan. And you're stuck in Canada for it. Yeah. Got a baby goat. Wish we could get you in the United States.

I'm happy you're enjoying it. Sounds like Lions fans are yearning for the day that they can do what you're doing right now. What do you think it is about the organization this year that's different than every other year? Why do you think they're going on? Is it because you think Stephen Ross was being accused of trying to fucking lose games and the fans don't necessarily love that? Or do you think McDaniels just brought a new energy and they understand it's their window?

What do you think, Tom? Mike McDaniel and Tua. It's like what's happening with the Bears with Fields. You get a quarterback, surround him with what you need to do to make him good. And that's what Mike McDaniel's done. You empower your quarterback. Everybody loves him as a leader. He's fucking awesome.

He's the best. We're happy for you. We can't wait to see you, ladies and gentlemen, Gumpy. Love you, Gumpy. Miss you, Gumpy. He's won half of the hammer. Done. Cowboys who talk about gambling every single day,

15 minutes after this show ends at youtube.com forward slash hammer. The Pittsburgh Steelers have also made a trade. They traded for cornerback from the Commanders. William Jackson. The third. Yes. Not William Jackson the second? No.

No. Not the original William Jackson. This is William Jackson the third. Anytime there's a third, I love it. I think it needs to be mentioned. If it is out there, there's a reason for it. And he is, you know, now a Pittsburgh Steeler. So the Pittsburgh Steelers get rid of Chase Claypool,

send him out of town to Chicago, a team that got rid of Quinn and Roquan Smith. Roquan Smith, leading tackler in the NFL right now, traded to the Baltimore Ravens from the Chicago Bears. We all think, oh, the Bears are mailing it in. They trade for Chase Claypool, get him out of Pittsburgh. Now he's in Chicago. I don't know how Steelers fans probably indifferent about that. Get cornerback William Jackson III in there. Are you happy about this? And what do you think this is saying from Mike Tomlin? This is like when he brought in Minka a couple years

ago when the offense went to shit and Duck Hodges was leading the team. No offense, Duck, that's the reality of the situation. Yeah, he wasn't really playing for the Commanders. I know he got three years, $40 million. I believe it was this offseason for the Commanders, and he just didn't like the team anymore. So, fucking buy low situation for the Steelers here. I love it. I mean, everything they did today was absolutely perfect. Super Bowl next year is going to be fucking awesome.

Okay, so this is, you're looking for next year. No, no, this change is nothing this year. Okay. So, Tomlin is coaching for 2023 right now. And this trade was made for 2023. Absolutely. And you guys have to pay him, I assume, right? Because the window had changed where the money has to go.

Yeah, absolutely. I can pay him. So you pick up a big-time contract from somebody on defensive side of the ball, which your defense has been the heart and soul of that thing. Well, TJ's not playing. TJ probably back here in the next couple games. You're giving up hope on this year? ball, which your defense has been the heart and soul of that thing. TJ's not playing. TJ's probably back here in the next couple games. You're giving up hope on this year? You think that's what the Steelers have done or no? I don't know if they have, but yeah, I have.

I mean, look at the fucking team. But they're making trades. So you want Canada next year? Super Bowl next year. Yeah, exactly. So, hey, guy, use the last of this season to kind of get acquainted with the building, the staff. City.

The city, you know, the ins and outs, how Tomlin goes with the defense as a whole. Casino. Just know that you're getting traded to Pittsburgh right now for fucking next year. Okay? You've got a long preseason, all of a sudden. Because we are preparing for next year. Welcome to the team. Willie Jackson is there.

Exactly. He's a former first-round pick. He's due $3.1 million for the rest of the season. Then a $12 million option for next year. How much is guaranteed of that? Well, who knows? Well, that's pretty big.

I know there's a $2.5 million roster bonus due in March. Yeah, well, that's nothing when you're paying for a single. Let's see what he's got left for the rest of this year and then maybe you're around next season. So if it's their option, this is a great play by the Steelers.

We'll pay this guy two and a half, and if it's our option that we don't have to pay him anything after the season, that's a great play. That is an unbelievable opportunity for the Pittsburgh Steelers to maybe strike gold on a first-round talent who wasn't happy somewhere else. He gets into your system. If TJ's back, he's getting to experience what TJ is. Minka, you know, he's had a couple games here where we're wondering what the fuck's going on with Minka, but he's still a dog. So maybe there is a little bit of hope and optimism

in Pittsburgh. And I don't know about this team. Jacksonville, they made a big-time trade. Calvin Ridley, who I believe is from the Florida area, went back to Florida during his bye week last year whenever he was not playing, placed a pretty hefty bet that did involve his Atlanta Falcons team playing against somebody. He then got a year-long suspension for betting on game that he was not playing in or the bye week that he was not playing in and that he was not playing in the entire season. Nonetheless, set the standard going forward, the precedent. We can't have players betting on games, even though sports gambling is about to be legal everywhere because of how much better it makes all sports and everything like that.

He has been traded to the Jacksonville Jaguars. Ian Rappaport says, shocker! This one came out of left field for Ian Rappaport. The Falcons are trading wide receiver Calvin Rid ridley to the jaguars sources say in exchange for a complex draft compensation that could be worth a maximum 2023 fifth rounder in a 2024 second rounder ridley is suspended through at least the 2022 season he was suspended indefinitely with at least a season i guess is where we're at calvin really good ball player arty smith never really got to experience anything with him. So these are the conditions to the trade for Calvin Ridley. If he gets reinstated by a date, it's worth a 2023 fifth.

Otherwise, it's for a sixth. If he makes the team in 2024, it's at least a fourth. If he hits playtime milestone, it's a third. If Jacksonville gets a long-term deal done, it's a two. Wow. All right, I love what Atlanta's doing. Listen, go ahead and get the guy. Doug Peterson's like, do we know if he's ever going to fucking play?

Has anybody ever been suspended before for sports gambling? Like, is this still a precedent type thing? Has he been talking to Roger Goodell since being suspended? Is Roger happy with him? Is there not happy with him? Is he ever going to play? And Jacksonville Jaguar GM goes, you're right, goes up to Atlanta. We need an answer for all this shit.

And the Atlanta GM's like, all right, how about this? If he plays, you guys give him a long-term deal, you get this. If he does this, you get this. If he's reinstated, guess what? Boom, that's going to be a fifth and a sixth. We get to move. We get a deal? Jacksonville's like, deal.

Let's fucking make it happen. I'm excited to hear that they were willing to do whatever to get a deal done, and maybe this will help out the Jacksonville Jaguars, who, you know, it seems like, know ETN is making big plays every single weekend Trevor Lawrence is making some big plays it feels like they're a little bit of a splash they lose to the Denver Broncos in London which is the first time a lot of people have probably seen this Jacksonville Jaguars team this season they do feel different they do feel different than they have in the past but they're not going to be in a conversation this

year does Calvin Ridley change that next year you You think AJ Hawk? I mean, I think he definitely gives you another weapon and people kind of forget how good Calvin Ridley can be. Dude is super explosive. He's very fast. I hope he, yeah, I don't know what the year off is going to do. I would assume he's working out and hanging out and do whatever, but I'm sure he needed a change of scenery. Jacksonville, it makes a lot of sense to however the picks are going to work out whenever it does happen. I think it seems like it's worth it. If he can come in and play, if he's not suspended anymore.

Yeah, well, I just assume it's going to be one season, and then he's going to be back. I guess that's in question, though. That's why. Which I guess we just learned. Does he have to do his stuff? Does he have a process he has to go through, probably go to meetings and different things, I'm sure?

Oh, yeah, and get through it all. Gamblers Anonymous? Yep. For real real you know you like the dui camp people go to for weekends that's in arizona i think right in that arizona that's here too oh yeah that's not every deal not jail no arizona they put you in jail like in the tent jail or whatever here like a lot of places you get dui you go sit there with drug addicts and they tell stories. Yeah, I've had a couple of friends who are Ohio fucks who've gotten some DUIs, have told tales about the tales that they were told at DUI boot camp over the weekend. Because, you know, I guess there is levels of people that are in that DUI boot camp, you know, from classic alcoholic who doesn't understand that Uber is still a thing,

even as a young that's drunk driving, which shouldn't be doing that that all the way to people that are on their 15th dui you know what i mean in ohio and the reason why and that whole thing um calvin ridley though he was still on the team after all that happened like they didn't just immediately cut him and say like we could that's how good he is yeah exactly you know i mean like he's he's a very good football player there's got a lot in return for a guy who hasn't played had a pretty heavy when you look at it from the nfl's uh standpoint a year-long suspension so a pretty big fine severe fine for the action and now jacksonville is going to take a shot doug peterson should be able to get going all right we will keep everybody updated on the trades as they continue to roll in about 45 minutes left until the trade

window has been shut for the entirety of the NFL season. Sorry, the Paffle 2022. The 2022 Paffle season. Boom. Now it's time to continue to get smarter like we have this entire Paffle season with a chance to dive deep into the big bodies of the football game. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for In the Trenches with AQ Ship. Yeah!

Hi, baby AQ. Hey,! Hi, baby, AQ. Hey, we're going to skip this one. We'll come back to this one. What? What are you talking about? This is the one you sent me a text message about last night. What? Why are we skipping it?

You want to go right to it? Well, I'd just like to talk about it because, you know, AQ has shown and proved himself to be a little bit of a scumbag. Oh, yeah? Sure. In this particular. H. Jotunato. H. Jotunato.

But not even that. That is a problem. That's a big problem. It is a big problem. Yeah. But another problem we've had is him talking about what offensive linemen are thinking during plays. Last night, Monday Night Football,

we saw exactly what he's been talking about, where if a guy, aneman has no work what are they doing looking for ribs and betonia did that last night on trey hendrickson and it changed the entirety of the game i mean completely changed him completely changed how everything went and um how awesome was that how awesome was i immediately thought of you whenever it happened because it was it affected the, it affected the game. It changed the game completely. Trey Hendrickson is a fucking stud.

And they were rubbing his back and his ribs and his spine. And it's all because, but Tanya. Look at him. Target locked. Beep. Target locked. Beep. Incoming.

Oh, man. One of the best guards, if not the best guard in football. Completely legal. This is completely legal. Completely legal. I loved your text back to me. You said you love that. You love that. Trey Hendrickson, guy's got no gloves on. Tough guy. He's engaged with the

tackle. He's a star. Trey Hendrickson is one of the stars of this game. All of a sudden, we're seeing him on the sideline getting a rub, and they do the slow-mo of it, and it is clear as day exactly what you said. Look for ribs, boys, in Batano. I was like, give me that. No, no, no.

And now it affected the rest of the game. It affected everything. I felt smarter because you told me about it. Didn't love while I was watching it, but, hey, that's the game out there. You didn't love it. I loved it. I loved every second of it. Listen, that is what is the game out there that's it you guys didn't love it i loved it i loved every second of it listen that is what is the game that's football you're look look if you watch the beginning of this play watch how he helps his center first this guy goes

oh look i'm helping help his center great teammate and now we go get another help with the tackle. Bull rush. Stud. Boom. Let's go. Let's go. Boom. Down. Down. Boom. That's everything you guys are looking for.

Affected the rest of the game. Trey Hendrickson wasn't able to rush the way he was rushing before that. And after that, hopefully he'll be back next week. I hope so. Better be. Geez, hope you guys feel good. But Tanya, good play. It's legal.

Way to go, Joel. He felt good about it. Hey, I like starting off with a little bump. I was good to start off a little bump today. Well, I just feel like go, Joel. He felt good about it. Hey, I like starting off with a little bump. It was good to start off with a little bump today. I just feel like it's something you've been talking about, and then whenever we see it come in real-life situation, it's like, I guess you do know. I know a little football.

Hey, this is a group that is – ever since he went out, this group has really come together. We saw the run game come alive. They're going to run a pirate stunt, so they're going to slant here. He's going to play over the top. Just watch this. This is poetry in motion. Tight end, tight end block. He goes to get him. He's going to work here, but check this

out. They're going to work in conjunction here. He's going to play here. He's going to play over the top. Watch this. Look. Double tenure. Now watch him get off here. Now over the guy over the top. Look at that fucking hole. Whoa. Holy shit. Wow.

How come they don't block like that for Zeke? I mean, that's unbelievable, isn't it? Yeah. That is unbelievable. It's huge. Is that a big? Can we get yards on that? Can we get yards?

I don't know. I don't know. Six, seven. We did not count. Okay, that's okay. But we're going to say that's about 10 yards to run through, right? Wow. What are you saying?

Tony Pollard is getting a lot of credit? Look at this wall. Look at this wall, though. Bears defensive line just slanting right into it. Look at that Ravens linebacker caught up in the wash. And they picked it up. And that's the thing. A.J. knows it, right?

Like, you run a pirate stunt, they got to get penetration there. They do not. They do a fantastic job literally running the zone right into it they pick it up they create the wall he can just run for daylight that's incredible work by the big boys of cowboys you're saying unbelievable hey this is okay so this is one thing that has to happen in today's game with the offensive line we want easy plays for the group, right? Because it's hard as shit to block these guys, right? So we want easy plays. Basically, all of these guys just got to kind of turn and seal one way. We're going to not block him, J.J. Watt. We're not going to block him. We're going to fake this dive. This is third and one. Wait till you see how much fucking space is in this

one. This is unbelievable. It's a little gadget play. You run on third and one. You're going to fake the dive. Literally, not block him and him because they're going to have to play the dive. As soon as they send him in motion, this is to the nub side tight end. Nub side being the tight end over here. Everybody else is over there. Fake the dive. And then we're going to get the toss.

Wait till you see this one. Don't block him. Don't block him. We get him arcing for this right here here he got him one-on-one right here now watch this look where his eyes are he thinks the fucking dive right there he's got the ball nope there's the ball oh no oh no oh no 25 yards hawkinson now, too. Oh, my gosh. Oh, jeez. Come on. That's Hawkinson right there.

There he is. He's blocking out in the perimeter. Took him by a clock. Hey, how great is that, too? Goes and seeks contact with one of the baddest safeties in the league. Goes and finds Buda Baker. Doesn't try and run away from him. Watch this. We're going to find Buda, and we're going to literally bring on contact.

Boom. We're going to find him. That tight end is still blocking that guy. Let's go find him. Instead of running here, trying to run away from him, we're just going to go right at him. Boom. Boom.

Oh. Boom. Great tackle by Buda, though. Great tackle by Buda. That's what a standoff is. Two bulls in a field. Yeah, that's right. But how good is that, right?

Third and one. You're just trying to get one yard, and you end up all that space, and you run a chunk play for, what do we got, 30-something yards on this? This is unbelievable. AJ, there's a lot of taking advantage I'm learning this season. It might be every single season. A lot of taking advantage of what rules are, you know,

what rules are being had and what people have to do. Like JJ, he has to honor the dive. This cuz has to honor the dive this cuz has to honor the dive but instead they're taking advantage of knowing that's going to happen and send this fucker way outside that's brilliant this is the modern age of uh play design is that what this is you think aj i mean yeah it's what they what offensive coordinators always have to find creative ways but i mean it's also a risky play as well what if jj just crashed a little harder to get some of those big paws and he knocks that ball out and it's free ball on the ground?

It's not like it's perfect. They ran it very well. It's not like it's perfect. They still had to execute. Let's rewind that too because I think this is important too, A.J. Correct me if I'm wrong, but typically when you fake that dive like here, then the pitch usually goes opposite, does it not? That's the one we typically see.

Yeah. I thought this was pretty cool and pretty creative because they go to the same side. Same side pitch. Normally that's going that way. It's going that way. Yep. It's like a fake dive here, toss back the other way. Yeah, that's a play call on Madden. The end guy, AQ, you think the end guy has the pitch here? I do. I think he, I think he screwed up, but that's again, like it's third and one. They're thinking this whole thing's coming down, right? And as soon as he does that, even that step right there, he would have gotten the first down, even if he recognizes right now he's the ball just that one two steps right there it's over he's gonna get the first down

great great play yeah great play hawkinson to this offense jesus in the division somebody said get hawkinson the fuck off our team yeah he's our best player you guys can have him oh they're going on a super bowl run in the division. Fucking here. Yeah. Hey, tell you what, man. I'm going to fucking miss you, man. What do you think, AJ?

What do you think MCDC is saying about Hawkinson in the division to the Vikings? You think he's pissed? We think he's pissed. I would imagine he is absolutely pissed. Did he know this was happening before it happened? Well, we think there's two different outcomes here. He didn know or he said don't be like me man you deserve to fly like a peacock plays a fucking wasteland man get out of here yeah spread your wings man go fly man we think that's two ways he's either pissed what a good guy or he peacock go spread your wings

so yeah i think the second the peacock go spread your wings is more likely makes more sense in the division you know i mean that's a tough that's a tough anyway speaking of tough this is unstoppable right here what the browns did last night on this two-point conversion after a false start or whatever this is unstoppable isn't it with all the meat that we got going on it's awesome they literally have every single offensive lineman they have dressed in the game they got one in at fullback they got one at at fullback. They got one at the wing. I got everybody here. This is the only non-lineman essentially right there. And so what we're going to do, we're going to send him in motion. This is your typical power up. You only run maybe one goal line play a game if you're lucky. So this is a play that's in every week. They have repped this a hundred times, maybe just to run this this one time. Now it's probably going to be out of the arsenal for a while. They got something else cooking,

but we get some down blocks. We get the puller. We get him coming through. The key is my man getting full head of steam on the extra backer. This is a typical 6-2 defense. You get on defense one, two, three, four, five, six, cover down. You get a gap here. You get a gap here. You can typically get extra backer, extra backer. This is is the floater he's going to go with the guy in motion this guy's basically cleanup you basically have to beat him he's the unblocked guy but the key is watch him literally stonewall the extra backer on the end of the line we're going to get the pulling guard up through with the fullback watch this stonewall this is the key to watch. Oh, no. Oh, God.

Adding insult to injury. Adding insult to injury, right? So, hey, just a quick question here. You've got to go low. Because, which I – By the way, I heard you did that to AQ. AQ was playing fullback, and you two were about to meet in the hole, and you tried to saw off his left thigh, and at the same time you just put your helmet directly through his forearm he had a uh he had like a bruise for a

week and a half because of you thought i broke my forearm aj thanks look at look at you you think i can take aq on up high no chance well that's we actually had a full conversation about what you thought as the play was building you're like look at this fucking massive dude with this head i'm sawing through this guy's thigh with your helmet and instead his arm just so happened to be a little bit of a shield yeah just couldn't use his left arm for a week aj that's all anyways uh when you're talking about this guy um this particular fella here is the spy the follow on that that does not matter because you only need this many yards, right? Correct.

He's the guy that you, what do we say every week, right? Running back's got to beat one. This guy's not even in the play, though, because of how far back he is, right? Correct. With this fucking, I mean, that's way too much space for a half-yard gain there. Correct. Is this an unstoppable play? Yeah, I mean, from the one, right?

Like, it's completely unstoppable. And then you put another lineman in the backfield as the fullback, just kind of clearing this hole. If there's any color there or any color there, my man, along with the pulling guard, they're just there to cave the hole. That's it. Boom. And it doesn't even matter. Like, okay, he's in the hole. He's getting hit by something.

It's impossible to stop if you let him. Yeah. How common are those four-point stances from the O-line when they're that close? How common is that? Yeah, that's big. On the goal line, that's a really big thing because these guys, we call them root hoggers. Root hoggers, right? They're trying to take out your legs.

So literally, these guys try and do the same exact thing, just gets them another couple inches lower, and they try and get underneath and dig them out. That's the whole thing. You're trying to dig them out. Dig it out. Dig it out. Dig them out. Dig all those roots out.

Yep, dig all those roots out. Yep. Dig all those roots out. Four-point stance for those watching at home that don't know. A lot of times you'll see the center getting a four-point too. He's there. Puts his other hand on the ground. Then you know. Four points of contact with the ground, one human.

Right. Both legs, both arms. Three-point stance. Invincible. A lot of white knuckles that's right hell yeah you bringing it or not aj we'll see the only way you beat this is if you have multiple d linemen on that side get some unbelievable penetration yep only right or you have vince papali where you're in the knuckles i don't know he kind of gets bodied in this one

i think in this vince Papali does not do well. Damn. He's probably laying on the ground there like 59. Yeah, I think maybe even worse. Like maybe he – oh, look at that. That's a solid shot. I mean, that's an unbelievable shot. And then he jumped on him.

Yeah, it's illegal. Why is he so rude? Come on. He's so rude. You already got him. Guy gets a 15-yard head start on old 59. No edge, no chance. No edge, no chance.

What's the edge? Boom, boom. That's it right there. Jeez. Watch him run off the field too if you keep playing he's so juiced run to the sideline look at oh yeah we got it he made sports center this is he saying that yeah oh i think my biggest issue though with the whole play is just uh aj is this the proper depth for these linebackers what do they get is this the depth they're supposed to be well it depends like i always was kind of in between sometimes i would line up even deeper and get like in a running stance and stagger my feet so i can run and dive and have a chance are you going over top here are

you going uh low as hell either way you're screwed there you're going you're throwing your head up trying to create a pile somehow. Bobby Spillane versus Derrick Henry last year. Two years ago? Yeah. Two years ago. COVID year. Nobody in the stands. Remember, that's why.

Starting at the uprights and then taking off. You heard it. I don't know how you stop that, though. And Chubb. The line has to stop it. They have to get penetration. Penetration. Penetration and the linebackers come up and make a tackle.

These O-linemen are a tad high. They have to dominate a couple one-on-ones, which is really tough to do from a one-yard line. It's also tough to tackle. I feel as though Chubb every time is breaking one tackle. He actually does good, right? Yeah, he was a little high in turn, but he did a good job initially creating a little pile there.

But if you're getting three shots at that, if you're the Browns, that's an unstoppable play. Percentages. Getting one yard. And this offensive line is playing at an extremely high level. Best in the league, you've said numerous times. Chubb has 800-yard games for his first five seasons or something in all of them. And he's among, I think, Adrian Peterson, Emmitt Smith.

LaDain Tomlinson. Walter Payton. Yeah, there's literally just him and then four of the greatest running backs. Jim Brown. Four of the greatest running backs of all time. They showed it as a graphic last night. Chubb is doing historic things. And he's been splitting reps.

Remember, he's been splitting reps. Remember, he's been splitting reps with Kareem Hunt his entire career there. He's been doing historic shit right now. And you're saying the offensive line also needs a little bit. What are you saying, Todd? That's what I was just going to say. I meant to say that earlier, trade deadline. It almost feels like that would be the best thing for the Browns is if they do trade Kareem Hunt because this guy should have 30 carries a game.

Remember last year when Baker Mayfield at the end of the year had that shoulder that Kevin Stefanski was saying publicly it's definitely affecting his accuracy then that next game he had like 60 throwing attempts and all we saw was chubb with a jacket on the sideline and our entire take was oh they're trying to lose they're trying to make baker mayfield look bad why is that because they won't put chubb on the fucking field chubb always does something great when he's on the field i'm'm happy, like, everybody seemingly to understand that now because Chubb is not a talker. Chubb is very quiet.

Chubb is, like, kind of reserved. And he is a fucking dog on a football field. And I think that Browns team, they know it. They should at least at this point, you know. What about this squad? This guy is the king of the rushers there for the last couple years. Hey, this is awesome stuff. It starts with their group up front, Ben Jones. We all saw the clip with him and Vrabel. Everybody loves him. He's played couple years. Hey, this is awesome stuff. It starts with their group up front. Ben Jones.

We all saw the clip with him and Vrabel. Everybody loves him. He's played 11 years. I think he's only missed one fucking game his entire career. He's got an Ironman. Absolute stud in the middle. But the key to this is, what do we have here? Tannehill's out, right?

We got Malik Willis. So anytime we got a little zone read action going on, that's going to be the key. He's going to hesitate. They's going to be the key. He's going to hesitate. They are going to hand this off. The move that he puts on him right down this hash is going to blow your mind. It's going to blow your absolute mind, but hold on. Let's stop it real quick. The thing I love about this, this is your classic inside zone week. It's a classic inside zone week. Basically, just kick out, kick out, but the thing that I love what they're doing,

they're not trying to stretch it. This is a designed cutback. He has an unbelievable block, finishes this guy on top. He's going to climb up. He's going to seal. This ball typically would go here, and then you're going to read, get the cutback. But what's going to happen, it's going to go straight down this hash mark. They are all sealing this way. That is the other beautiful thing about what's happening in the offensive line right now. They are using the defensive linemen against them. Hey, listen, cool, you want to rush upfield? Cool, we'll just turn you out.

That's all they're doing. And watch him hit this 100 miles an hour down the hash, and watch the move that he puts on him to finish this thing. This is unbelievable. This guy's 6'4", 250 pounds running the ball. That little hesitation, right? We talked about it. Had to because he has to respect this guy.

Has to respect it. Oh, no. Now watch this. Wait for it. Oh, my God. How big is he? 6'4". That's not fair.

250. Is that unbelievable? Yeah. You can get this guy running in open space one-on-one with a safety. Nighty-night. It's over. You get that look where he's downhill, shoulders square, and he's downhill. You're never going to stop.

Honestly, best case scenario for that guy because he could have just been part of the field still. Yeah. Run right through his face. Yeah. You're talking about railroad. Golly. He's on the track. Nice move.

I mean, how good is that? Dude is different. Different is right. Dude is different. They're finished to score, though. This counted, right? He scored. He scored.

Unbelievable finish. I mean, look at this, though. Look how they're all just stealing. Like, listen. Okay, cool. Come downhill. Because he thinks, oh, this is an inside zone this way. I got him.

No, you don't. No, you don't. Oh, I got him. I got him to the inside gap. No, you don't. We're just stealing. We're using what the defenders do against us to get my man rolling downhill. Jeez.

Nothing old Cousy can do there. That's 53 and a third than you. You know what I mean? That's a tough spot to be with Derrick Henry running actually down football fields, train tracks there as the hash is. Good for the Titans figuring it out. Yeah, good squad. Good for the Titans figuring it out. Malik Willis,

is Tannehill back? Do we know if Tannehill's coming back? Well, I think in terms of having a balanced attack, they need to get him back because I'm pretty sure Malik Willis in the second half didn't throw a pass until halfway through the fourth quarter. 55 yards. So if you want to pass a game, we need Tannehill back.

Are you thinking the defenses in the NFL will be able to figure it out if you're only throwing the ball for 55 yards a game? That's going to be tough, I think. Sustained success. Load the box up. I mean, it's tough. You've got to have a little bit of a balanced attack.

But what you're saying is this guy has to respect it just a little bit. Has to respect it. Just that little hesitation right there. Can't make it. He's running through. Boom. Boom. Boom.

Boom. This team's always on this. Ooh. Look at him. He just got through. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. This team's always on this. Ooh. Look at him. He just got jacked up. Look at the shoulder strike. They're always on it. AJ, you see the pants go up there whenever this fucking guy's seen the Niners clip come on.

This is porn for old AQ. I love watching this group. And this is nothing. I mean, you're always going to get some type of eye candy. You're going to get somebody going back across the grain. The key is this guy. You're going to give him going back across the grain. The key is this guy. You're going to give him a hole, and just watch what he's able to do. I want to keep highlighting this because he's a game changer.

They obviously just lost Jeff Wilson, but check this out. You get the cross motion right here, so everybody's going to cross. You're going to get the little crack block right here, and then look at the vision. Literally, he can hit this anywhere. He sees it right now. I'm going right there and look at that hole what do we got boys a big gaping hole i mean how good is that how good is that crack block though wow gorgeous oh he's out man he's explosive i'm happy you didn't take a hit

at the end there right just ran out of bounds this guy's different too i mean it's unbelievable when you give him 10 yards of space to run through untouched and get him to the second level, he scores one running, he scores one throwing, he scores one passing. He is just going to keep getting more and more and more involved. Big boys up front, we got Trent Williams back. We got Banks playing at a high level. We got everybody up front.

Kittle's blocking his ass off in the run game. Dwelly stepping in for Juszczyk. Hey, game ball to my guy last week. Game ball. Boss ball. Steps in for Juszczyk. Does a fantastic job in the run game. Man, this team is, hey, I told you from the beginning.

Yeah, they're going to win, you said. They're going to win. They're going to be good. And they are going to continue to win. I think Christian McCaffrey, big deal, only third-round picks. Yeah, so Carolina sucked and not Christian McCaffrey. I think Carolina won a game after, remember, after Christian left. Beat Tom Brady.

Almost beat the Falcons last week, too. Oh, two kicks. Eddie Pinheiro. Tough one. Tough one. Helmet. Can't take the helmet off. DJ Moore.

Well, technically. Well, just make a kick, too. Yeah, just got to make the kick. How good is this, right? Same thing. They're all doing the same thing, right? They're just sealing. Well, just make a kick. Yeah. He's got to make the kick. How good is this? Right? Same thing. They're all doing the same thing, right? They're just sealing. They're just sealing.

We get the kick out on the back, and he's out the gate. God, he's a good player, Christian McCaffrey. We talked about how there's going to come a game where we're going to say, how the fuck was he only a couple third-round draft picks? It already happened. And they've got a bye coming up. Yeah. I think they've got a bye coming up, too.

So he's able to get, like, another week of think and get yeah this week so he 10 two games 10 days as uh a niner now he gets a whole bye week so he gets to take in more of the offense shanning gets a drop more they get to get healthy re-scout revision and kind of relaunch this second half of the season for fucking the niners might be a much different ballgame, and I think they ascend back up into the ranks of the conversation which they had been for a long time, which is these motherfuckers got a shot to go. I think they do, don't you? I do.

Debo Samuel, let's also not forget, was out this game. We'll be back hopefully after the bye week. I cannot wait to see some of the stuff they do, motioning him into the backfield, Debo into the backfield, Juszczyk into the backfield, everybody into the backfield. Let's move on to some bumps, huh? A big old bump. I take this very seriously, trying to find some different stuff every week, right? Sometimes we see the screen. Sometimes we see some other stuff. We are focusing in on Tyler Lindelof. Hell yeah. Where's he from? Where's he from? Solon, Iowa. There it is. Iowa Hawkeye. We're also going to zoom in on number 45.

Oh. He's literally just going to climb up here, and this is a pretty routine play for the Ravens. Boom. We get the little single block. He's going to climb up to him. Now, to stay connected to a linebacker at the second level is so much harder than people think it is. How come?

These guys are constant. They don't want to be touched, and they're so good at using your aggressiveness against you. So they do one little hand swipe, and you're leaning a little bit forward. They're out the gate making a play, and you're sitting there looking like an idiot, like chasing them.

Like, what the fuck just happened? Yeah, you're not supposed to be out in this big space with this guy who's much smaller than you, much more athletic than you. Exactly. And then, once you do get connected, they're doing everything they can to get back off the block to make the play watch how long he stays connected and he's just going to keep

running his feet oh wow lindenbaum the wrestler huh taking him to the mat hell yeah how come warren sap didn't put that one on and look where his his hands are. His hands are inside. Hands are inside. That is not holding, ladies and gentlemen. Leg drive. Look at that leg drive right there. That's what you teach young linemen. He gets engaged. He's like, see, I'm going to drive these legs.

What's the thing I said about Kelsey, too? Kelsey does a fantastic job staying under balance, getting his hips underneath him, a belt buckle to belt buckle. If he's playing like this, Devin can throw him. But watch. He just gets belt buckle to belt buckle and just runs. Boom. And finishes with a slam.

Yeah, some people are saying he's not trying. Some people are saying that. Who? They can say what he wants. Man, that looks bad on film, doesn't it? If you're trying or not trying, this is still going to fucking hurt. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Man.

That hurts, and man. Boom. It's schoolboyed at the end of that thing. He is one tough son of a bitch, AQ. How awesome is that, huh? Yeah. Boom. He gets schoolboyed at the end of that thing. He is one tough son of a bitch, AQ. How awesome is that? Yeah. Yeah. He is.

Good old Hawkeye. Hell yeah. What is that, just perfect form you're saying? It's unbelievable. The way that he just finished. Lamar is sweet. Then you got to get up and do it again. So much of both lines is just effort.

Like effort down the field just to never quit and always be a pest. I feel like those are the worst guys to go against. They don't have to have great fundamentals. You just hit the buzzword that most defensive linemen, linebackers hate. Pest. Nat. The guys that are constantly playing through the whistle, not to the

whistle, not even before the whistle. The guys that are trying to do this shit at the end of plays. Bury you down pull you back do some of the vet stuff to just kind of piss you off and the late hold here and just a little extra jab at the end this is the shit you hate playing again damn he's in the fucking areas but guys three what probably 310? Yeah. It's unbelievable, right? I just want to let him know that I appreciate the fact that he went from wrestler to young, dominant center in the NFL like that because he's an Iowa Hawkeye. That's right. Baby shades of Marshall Yonda.

He'd probably be the most explosive player on the offense right now if he was be there. Oh, without a doubt. Hey, big win over Northwestern. Hey, let's go. They're back. They're back. Hey, watch the college football rankings tonight. Iowa may sneak in.

We don't know. I don't. You never know. Are they ranking all 131? Maybe. Are they ranking all 131? They might be. Tonight on Tuesday.

I hope so. I almost became a voice of Iowa this weekend, you know, whenever I start talking about it. Yeah, a lot of people echoing the sentiment about Iowa. How's Penn State? You guys good or no? We'll go 10-2, 9-3. Yeah, they'll never win the big game.

It's pretty typical. Yeah, but AQ is in the house. They beat Minnesota. Sure, they can beat Minnesota. They'll never win the big game. Which one's that? Ohio State, the Big Ten Championship. And anyone that really matters won't happen. But they'll give that coach a fat contract. No, you guys can start

recruiting back in there, I think. Don't you think you guys can keep up with NIL deal and everything like that? You just got to win those games. I mean, you've seen the record. You won't. One and eight or one and nine. Yep, you won't. There was one, though?

Yeah, it was Ohio State. Remember the blocked kick? Oh, yeah. Is that when he was going to fight a fan? You remember when he was going to fight a fan? That was awesome. That was awesome. You guys, hey, come on. Let's go.

We are. Maybe next year. We are. Can't do it after a loss. That's like the OH up there. How are you going to bounce back if you don't do it? Once they get the win, then we bounce. This feels like it's potentially you leaving ducks on a pond like what AJ did. Remember when

AJ did that, they lost to Michigan. And the Ohio State basketball team lost to a 15 seed. Boom. I don't want to do that to Penn State, do you? They're already 1-9 against ranked opponents or whatever. You want to make that even worse, pal? No, let's do it again. Oh, yeah.

We're forcing it now. Now we can't. Now we can't. Now we can't do it. It's too uncomfortable. Let's go talk about another Pennsylvania team, huh? What do you think? Let's do it.

Ooh. Two Pennsylvania teams. Well. Well, Pittsburgh's just really its own. Oh, okay. They're their own thing. AJ, you notice anything? The Lone Stars, they hurried to the line. Why did they hurry to the line? You notice anything right here? Because they got unbalanced.

There you go. So we got the unbalanced. You got the left tackle, Milota, comes over here. They're trying to catch them in a little situation short yardage he's already lined up here so what are you thinking you're probably going to get a quick toss right they're thinking this might be their little qb sneak thing that philly's shown all year long right they get in there they're going to do a qb sneak i told you something was going to be coming out off of it here it is they go on balance quick they're trying to catch them off

guard they're going to get the quick toss. Check out Jordan Milota who weighs 380 pounds. Let's rewind that and watch what Miles Jack gets coming his way. Miles Jack thinks it's the sneak. I'm going to hit the A gap or the B gap. Here we are. Now I'm'm gonna come out of it and 380 pounds is waiting with you not looking what's gonna happen oh god four miles that's what he gets for hustling i mean how good is that my you don't see that within the box these types of hits don't happen often in the box even if he catches him late with his eyes typically yeah, yeah, it may look bad, but he's not going to go down. It's not going to be a kill shot, right?

This is a kill shot. I think since he was moving to his right and then he came back inside, he was outside the tackle box, and that's a penalty. It's a crack. It seems like he cheated. Still within the box. Where it starts, boys. Where it starts.

You know it's bad, too, when Bobby Spillane can't even get off his block yeah dude look at all the i mean look at everybody thought it was a dive yep look at all the bodies carnage right there sirianni doing some pretty good coaching stuff huh some really good stuff but man how awesome is this seeing that at the second level when they go in and watch film when they go in and watch film this guy is a hero. Like, oh, let's re-watch that 30 times, you know. Let's re-watch that 20 times. And then Miles Jack's sitting there saying, can we fast-forward this motherfucker? Can we go to the next play? How come we all thought it was dive?

How come we all thought it was the dive? We're all in here. We're all in here. How come we didn't have this on film, Coach? Because then I've got to live through this. Then I've got to live through this. The Eagles seem to be doing everything right. Doing some awesome stuff. Who's the run game coordinator? Do you know?

So Jeff Stoutland's the offensive line coach. Fantastic coach. Was at Alabama. Was at Michigan State. He's been with the Eagles now for 10 years. He's been there for a while. He's been there most of the time with Kelsey. He's awesome. So who is it? The Eagles, the Niners, the Falcons have been on here a lot. And you think the Cleveland Browns have the best

offensive line in sports. Those are the four I think that have been showc been on here a lot, and you think the Cleveland Browns have the best offensive line in sports. Those are the four, I think, that have been showcased on here that you really appreciate. I love, and Seattle. I love what Seattle's doing in the run game. Oh, yeah, they didn't put Seattle on here. Oh, you hate the Seahawks. That was an interesting game.

You had two of the best rushing teams in the league, and I think Walker at 50 yards, Barkley at 50 yards. The game plan was we're going to stop the run. So that's why they weren't featured today. No offense to Seattle Seahawks. No offense. Love what they're doing. Love what they're doing.

Maybe next week. They get really upset about us whenever we talk about them, how we talk about them, because of how we hadn't talked about them before when they did stink. Yeah, yes. I'm happy they don't stink anymore. Seem to be a fun team to be a fan of right now. They do.

Pete Carroll's giving a cut in promos about what life is like as a Seahawk right now. Geno Smith's showing incredible leadership and great football IQ. Defense is flying around. The run game seems to have it figured out. It's great to be a part of Seahawks right now. Seahawks football team. Not a lot of people having any mention of the Russ stuff either.

It seems like everyone's kind of coming around on maybe he was a big wet noodle asshole up there in Seattle. What was that? Big wet noodle asshole. Of course. It's not fun being a Broncos fan. They're selling their team right now. Chubb's gone. Sell, sell, sell. The exact opposite of what Seattle's doing.

Boom. Alright, we got about 14 minutes until the trade window ends. Appreciate you, AQ. Thank you. I feel like I got smarter in here. You know, I watch some film. I watch games. Yeah, I call it film.

Yeah, it is. I'm watching games. I'm watching film. Goddamn right. And I see some offensive lines do some things, and I feel like I actually know what the fuck's going on and what the attempt was. Like that whole, you know, duo or whatever the fuck you call it

for whoever's doing it, but there is a clear difference in how I watch offensive linemen now who are obviously trying to get off one and go to the next level and whether they get there or they don't get there, why they get there or why they don't get there, because they're not supposed to. That is a big body in space. But whenever a big run happens and you kind of see that shit,

I feel much smarter. So I appreciate everything you do for us. Thank you. A lot of big gaping holes on today's thing. That was the big thing today. A lot of big holes. holes on today's thing. That was the big thing today. A lot of big holes. None from the Seahawks, though. No.

Which is odd. AQ Shipley said. Or from the Patriots. Weird. But Geno Smith was throwing dimes, dropping them in a bucket. He's been doing that all season. It's unbelievable. Hey, we didn't talk about it here on In the Trenches,

but we have talked about it as a show. Does Jonathan Taylor fucking stink at running back all of a sudden or is it the offensive line and was the offensive line really good last year and jonathan taylor was better last year like why is there such a drastic difference in the jonathan taylor experience as an indianapolis colt fan than it was last year and we paid offensive lineman i thought so what the hell is going on indy do you know anything have you watched their film and is it jonathan taylor forgot how to play football or is it a com what is it so here's my breakdown oh shit so you have we go okay so you do i've watched quite a bit and historically over the last couple of years they've had a great group two years ago they were doing fantastic things in the run game last year doing pretty good things in the run game last year, doing pretty good things in the run game. Taylor has a big year, right? This year, not so hot to start off the season, right? Offensive line, execution,

missing blocks, miscommunication, late effort things like AJ talked about, right? Some of the effort things, maybe not finishing the block, guy falls off. So what does that do to Jonathan Taylor? Now he sees the hole, the hole was there. He goes to hit the hole and now he's getting tackled. So now what does that cause? Second guessing. Second guessing, a little indecision, right? So now you get some stutter steps in the backfield. So it's a combination of both.

There were some clips where I thought that he could have hit the hole 100 miles an hour, but again, some second guessing, maybe a little color spooks him. And here we are. Probably. Of course, yeah. See what I did there. Is that kind of like a quarterback Who starts his career Just getting fucking Blasted all the time

And now he's looking Down at the lines There's so much That goes into it I mean It's humans Quarterbacks being Comfortable in a pocket

Like there's something To that Like they start Getting hit a little bit Their feet start Moving a little bit If it's about to call It's about one of the

Things he said That could be a problem Like the communication I understand Because they've had Different quarterbacks But isn't the offense The same So like what is The miscommunication up front fuck we don't need

you pointing things i mean there's been some things that have been mind-blowing to watch on tape like no it's not it's not gloom and doom too much certainly doesn't help either when your navy seal quarterback is kia you know before the the midway point of the season all right before the season starts talk about football not actual military, please. No offense. We have a lot of respect for everybody that's in the actual military. But it sounds like you've done some real research on this Colts team. Gloom and doom, you're saying this team fucking stinks at the offensive line?

Is that what you're saying? Or are you saying? I think there's some issues. I think they got to figure it out. They fired the offensive coordinator. Yeah, that'll change everything. It's all fixed now. Nothing else to talk about.

It's fixed. Okay. What was some of the stuff you've seen on film that was just alarming? Some of the communication stuff, especially in pass protection early in the season.

It was blowing my mind. Clearly seeing guys going over here. Clearly seeing the back release. No one blocking this guy. Not sifting if it is that. Back should stay in. Should he not stay in?

Should they sift it? Should they not sift it? There's a million different things in the first four weeks of the season, especially in the Jaguars early in the season. It's supposed to be a good offensive line. Yeah, who's that on? Quarterback, center? That's the thing.

I don't know who's controlling their operation, whether it's the quarterback or the center. Boy, that's an issue. Top 100 player at center. He's fucking been around. Maybe we let him in the role. Maybe he has been hey q do you like calling uh did you like setting the protection ever when you were in the center

i liked it i did like it but i mean i i see the benefits of both the quarterbacks have a different vantage and there was a ton of times over the course of my career where i see it based on uh if the slot's backed up right so the slot defender if he's backed up by a safety we we count him as part of the count as if he can come right but coverage distribution quarterbacks see completely different so they might be like okay cool they're just fucking with you because they're setting him up over there but i know he can't come x him now that's the sam now we push the mic one back does that make sense yeah because you're always trying to count who's in the box, right? That's all of the pointing of the Mike. That's the Mike in the box, right? It's the

conversation. But when AQ's glossing over, he has to do all that in like 10 seconds, 8 seconds, while the defense is moving and disguising too, and you're tired, and you just got dinged up. And remember the cadence. And remember... Which 9 times out of 10, I'd get up there,

4 down, Mike, 52. Make sure we're all good. Hey, what's the count? What number are we on? Yeah. Because it's amazing, like, the amount of things you have to figure out. And then the most basic one. Whoa, fuck.

When are we snapping this? And then how about, you know, kind of got talked about this past weekend because of a penalty that happened. And Clint, I think his name is, the ref, he's a good one. Cleet? Cleet Blakeman. He's a good one, right? Kind of jacked up, a is the uh ref he's a good one cleat he's a good one right kind of jacked up a little younger ref he's a good ref he he called the defense was barking or saying something and he had to call it in the way he said it was no he actually started laughing in the middle he was like uh unnecessary uh unbe, whatever, first down for the thing, and he kind of walked away.

I appreciated that moment, but it led to a conversation about how D-linemen and others, you know, the whole make a sound that sounds like a cadence without getting caught was saying a sound of the cadence because especially in a loud environment, that offensive line is like hair trigger ready to go. That became a good game there was a little bit of a stretch in the nfl where that was a big deal like weekly people were jumping off sides with that right moved into special teams that's how i heard about it same

thing with uh whenever they they quick shift yeah quick shift gets you all the time too you're like you get that little flinch and you're like it's amazing you guys aren't allowed to budge yeah that makes no sense to me 300 and some pounds they're standing in an uncomfortable position and they're i mean sometimes you're allowed to stand up and like make a full thing and then sometimes once you get set you're not allowed to move again so you have to not get set what is it as long as you don't put your hand down you can do all this so that's why you see like the guards and tackles kind of they're here they don't put their hand on the ground so then whenever something changes they can kind of so i would never put my fucking hand in there.

Yeah, ever. Yeah, but then a lot of people want you to put your hand on the ground because it's a lot harder to run the ball when your hand's not on the ground. And then also when you're doing the play action stuff, coming out, staying low, it's a lot harder to stay low. Hold on. I've seen tackles in two-point, though, get it whenever they move their head like this. But then, like, next play, they're, like, looking around.

Well, I think there's a difference between, like, the sudden movement, like the quick flinch versus, hey, he's trying to get the call in Seattle. You can't hear shit. I can walk all the way in. Okay, cool. I'm back out. So it's once you get settled, though. It's like once you're in lock statue mode, you ain't allowed to fucking move.

You'd see me dancing all day. You'd just never be locked. A lot of this. Well, then we wouldn't be able to go on two, three, four. Right. So you'd have to stand. It's a weird thing that some of the most athletic people on earth are standing just a couple feet away from you.

They can move. They can get a full run up thing. And you're not even allowed to. And they're barking and shit. You do that, it's fucking. No way you're getting first down on this drive. You fucked up everything. You ruined everything.

Get that guy the fuck out of here. Andrew getting called out. Number 68, fucking left guard. I don't know if you guys saw him. Moved. Can't have it. He's either dumb or afraid. One or the other.

You tell me five yard penalty, repeat third down. It's a wild position. We appreciate you breaking it down for us. Thank you. We're coming into the closing five minutes of the trade deadline, trade window. We had planned on going live until 4 o'clock today to get in all of the trades. Five minutes remaining. I just saw Ty Schmidt shake his head.

The Green Bay Packers have not made any moves. We thought the Green Bay Packers might make moves. We on this show have to cover the Green Bay Packers more than everybody else because we have the quarterback come on every week and we've become a fan and this guy's the all-time leading tackler of the Packers so we're obviously going to talk about it I had hopes that the Packers were going to make moves it sounded like Aaron did as well what are your thoughts here with five minutes to go and nothing has happened it stinks I mean I suppose that something could happen late and we maybe don't hear about it until 4 15 or like 4 30 but I have a feeling that if they would have

done something we probably would have heard it by now. So I don't know. You have what you got, and you better hope that those guys start playing better. Dolphins make some plays. Steelers make some plays. Bears were pretty active. Hell yeah. Vikings get better.

And that's trade deadline 2022. Yep. That's everything, right? Yeah, pretty much. Denver unloading. Mm-hmm. Jags for next year. Mm-hmm.

Yep. Steelers for next year. Lions banking picks to make a Super Bowl run. Thank you, AJ. Next year. Hell yeah. Well, they're going to have to run into the TJ Hawkinson-led Vikings next year. Yeah.

Check it out. A couple times. What a wild day for Lions fans there. Hell yeah. Well, when you're at the bottom, it really can't get that much worse. It doesn't fucking matter. Exactly. It doesn't matter.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. It doesn't fucking matter. You think it doesn't fucking matter to this guy? I think that guy's upset. Like, I don't know how he trades away his marquee tight end. That's why I'm fucking upset too. You're upset because you think not only did our team give away our best weapon to somebody in the division that

we're going to have to play two times probably for the next five to ten years because he is a little bit younger. He's not like an old, old in the tooth type tight end. But also our head coach is a fucking tight end. You're getting rid of him. You're basically telling him you're next, pal. One tight end's gone. Wait till the head coach tight end's fucking gone getting rid of him. You're basically telling him, you're next, pal. One tight end's gone.

Wait till the head coach tight end's fucking gone. How many excuses do you get for him? If we're one and six this time next year with the Lions, are we one surprised

and are we two running it back again with the cool, funny head coach that is the man that does up-downs? You're calling for everybody's job. I'm not calling for the job.

I'm just hypothetically in this situation. As somebody who on game day said, Kirk's got to fire his damn kid. As offense coordinator, I left off at the end there. Doesn't need to go unemployed. Do whatever you got to do. But I just, you know, as offense coordinator, I feel like he's kind of run its course. And I like

what Pollock said. Pollock said, he should also realize that maybe step away so he doesn't put his dad in a bad spot, which was a great take. I thought, you have been doing a lot of fire. Get him out. Hey, look. Fire his family. MCDC, I'm not saying do that.

Frank Reich, get his fucking ass out, sure. Whoa, geez, fudging. MCDC is different where I think we all like MCDC. We want him to succeed because of the character that he is. But if they are one and six next year at this time, would you be surprised 1 or 2? Why are you talking about that? That's so far away. Come on. They still got 10-7 in the playoffs period time.

True. They got rid of their best player. What is getting rid of your best player say to your locker room going into week 9? He's done everything right too, right? TJ Hawkinson's done everything right. Carolina didn't. They got a win. Sun got a win.

Well, PJ Walker was in. But I think Robbie Anderson, like, he wanted out of there. They traded him out of there. Christian McCaffrey, now, trading your best player, I guess they were able to get a win after that. Will they continue? Who knows how they're going to end. Lions are going to win.

No, they're not. They got the Packers. The Lions are not going to win anything. Naeem Hines is going to the Buffalo Bills. Wow. With a shot clock expiring trade on the books made official in the Paffle. Adam Schefter is reporting that the Colts are trading Naeem Hines to the Buffalo Bills. Sources tell ESPN. Let me tell you about Naeem Hines as a Colts are trading Naeem Hines to the Buffalo Bills, sources tell ESPN. Let me tell you

about Naeem Hines as a Colts fan. Let me tell you about a guy who's going to be beloved by Bills Mafia, is incredible in the community. He's fucking explosive. He actually says before he returns punts, if I die, I die. He has that type of mentality, has that type of mindset. He has the capability of doing a round off back McTwist flip thing in full pads. He seems to be incredibly durable. He has the ability to be a slot wide receiver, a scat back, and he can fucking hit it and get it. He just hasn't had as many opportunities because Jonathan Taylor was here and there was a full stable in the backfield two years ago whenever he was good. We did pay Naeem Hines. We thought Naeem Hines would become one of the big-time receiving threats

for the Indianapolis Colts this season. The season has not gone how everybody expected it. They paid Naeem. He was being talked about as being shopped around. And whenever I heard that the Bills were looking for a running back, it was supposed to be Kamara. Kamara has three touchdowns. Don't think the Saints are going to trade him, obviously, is what we're doing. I said this morning in the kitchen over there, if Naeem Hines goes to the Bills, nobody's going to talk about it, but Naeem Hines is going to become a fucking weapon for the Buffalo Bills. If he has any space at all, he's gone.

Hits it, gets it, fast, beloved. We're going to miss him in Indy. I don't know what messages to send into the entire Indianapolis Colts fan base. I don't know what this means for the future, but I do know I'm happy for Naeem Hines going to a playoff contender, a real threat, and fucking Bills Mafia, you're going to love this dude. He is awesome. So that's my take on it. We thought it was going to happen earlier, thought there was a chance it was going to happen. Now it is four o'clock Eastern. The trade window has ended. The Colts did make a a move they pick up some draft picks i guess and

get rid of naeem hines as the buffalo bills once again a team who is very fucking good and has a lot of weapons already get richer aj your thoughts on the bills kind of at the last second making a play to pick up naeem hines uh out ofy? Yeah, well, Josh Allen, the quarterback at Buffalo, has to be obviously happy about this. Ken Dorsey will use him. I'm just thinking of Naeem, like, motioning around, running those little angle routes out of the backfield that are so tough to cover, and then he's going to whip back out and do all kinds of things just to create more matchups.

When they already have so many studs, they create matchups that are favorable in their direction pretty much all games. So the rich get richer. I thought he was going to do all those things for the Colts this year. So whenever we're watching him do what he's about to do with the Bills, know that that's why I was excited about the Colts this year. That's right.

Know that that's why he was a pretty big part of my excitement, actually, about the Colts this year. Like Naeem Hines is a player. Not a lot of people know him because when you talk about the Colts, you talk about the running back position, you talk about Jonathan Taylor. Now the conversation about Jonathan Taylor is, what the fuck is going on? Is it him or the offensive line? But in the past, you can't just be marketing two running backs from the same team

on a team that didn't make the playoffs. So Naeem Hines never really got his public national love that I think he probably deserves other than when he did that backflip thing. Now he's going to go to Buffalo. He's going to be on prime time, and he's going to fuck you. He's going to go off. It's going to happen, dude.

He's a player, man. He's good for the fucking community, too. Yeah. Big loss. What are the Colts doing? We're dead, huh? We're done. Oh, yeah.

This is it. Yep. It's a good year. It is, isn't it? We got two fucking Monday Night Football games still coming up against the Steelers and the Chargers. Oh, yeah. Listen, the Broncos get on national television

and people start hating the Paffle. Wait until this Colts team gets on national television again. I mean, there'll be three and six after next week. Dude, it is tough to watch. You know, and, like, Naeem is one of the – One of the top three weapons. When he gets the ball too, it's like a little bit, oh, could go. You know, could go.

Score a touchdown. Could go. Like that's your thought. Oh, he could. And he just – just gone. He will go. He will. In Buffalo.

Buffalo is going to fuck it. I mean, hey. On prime time. A lot of prime time games. You're going to see a good amount of him. He will. In Buffalo. Buffalo is going to fuck it. I mean, hey. On prime time. A lot of prime time games. You're going to get to see a good amount of him. Playoffs. Congrats, Naeem, man. I'm happy for you.

We are going to miss you in Indianapolis, though, in the community and on the team, though, pal. Congrats, Naeem. Green Bay Packers end up making no moves. Odo Beckham Jr. is still a free agent. Yep. Who knows when he'll be back and when he'll be healthy. Teams can still get better with free agents, but the trades can happen no longer.

As of three minutes ago, the NFL has shut down the trade window, so we will move on to tomorrow and see the fallout. What fans are going to be pissed? Probably them. If you're 3-8, you know Odell is not going to want to go fucking play in the cold. Would have been a good opportunity

to pick somebody up today,, hey, we'll see. You know, beat the Lions. Better fucking beat the Lions on Sunday. Well, the Lions actually got a win. They're giving up. So you better fucking beat the Lions on Sunday. You got nothing to worry about. What about the Patriots?

Patriots didn't do anything today. No. I figured maybe you guys bring another quarterback. No, if anything, we already have two Hall of Famers. We would probably move a couple guys. Hoyer and who? Well, true, three, Zappy and mac oh geez we don't have to do anything because we have the colts and they fucking stink and they just got rid of one of their best players all right so that's just kind of a layup we got then a bye week and then the jets again so i'm not worried

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Hockey Talk this evening 8 p.m. Eastern at YouTube.com. Oh, it's tomorrow. Bruins-Penns tonight. Ooh. Nah, don't need that. It's early in the season.

Honestly, at this point we just need this is preseason for hockey. Let's remember that. If you turn on the Bruins-Penns game tonight, this is preseason hockey. Okay.

This is not an indicator of what is actually – But the Penns win. The Penns are due. They've lost like 13 straight. Yeah, plus if you happen to be a Penns and Colts fan, one of those seasons is over. The other is just getting going. Penns are favored on FanDuel.

They're favored. Well, that's because you guys – Love that. That's because you guys – What's that? Have never experienced that. That's because you guys. What's that? Have never experienced greatness in your first 10 games before. How long have the Bruins existed?

I don't know, 200, 300 years? Of course. Not as long as horses, but certainly very long. 98 years. 300, 400, 98 years. 300. They're chasing the best start to a season that the Bruins have ever had. Did I read that tweet right, Nick? Through the first 10 games, they're chasing the best record they've ever had?

Yes. It's not even 10-0. It'll be 9-1, right? It's the hottest team that's ever come through the Garden, and we've won, I don't know, 50 Stanley Cups in those 98 years. The fact that this is a stat, though, that you guys have sucked for the first 10 games for your entire existence until this year is wild to me. It makes me feel even better about the Pens being the greatest hockey program in the history of hockey.

I mean, this is a tortoise and the hare situation. Why would you want to start fast? You want to finish fast. Well, that's what we're choosing to do, the old hare finish. That's smart, but you don't want to start too slow. Four, five, and one isn't a great record to head into the second half of the season. Is that where we are right now? We're 4-5-1?

If you lose tonight. The Pens are certainly an interesting team to follow. Old team. Yeah, they're old, full of grace. Shut the fuck up right now. Shut up, Fox. You guys lost fucking eight goals last night. You guys don't even know how to fucking put your skates on anymore.

We have a fucking nice young team, and you guys are old. Always going to have one. Always going to have a nice young team, pal. Always going to have one. And you guys are going to be watching the Pittsburgh Penguins play in the playoffs like you did the COVID year when they said, you guys don't even come to fucking Canada. Yeah, what happened that year?

Oh, you guys got eliminated in the first round just like you had the last five years. It's because it wasn't real. It wasn't real. That's what I'm saying. No, you weren't even invited, so you can't talk about it. We only play for Stanley Cups. We don't play for COVID Cups. Whatever the case.

We haven't played for those in a long time. Yeah, you guys stink. Yeah. You guys stink. Show the Bruins. No. Penn's a big winner tonight. I doubt it.

Las Vegas Golden Knights, they've gotten bad at hockey, too. Stink. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. They play tonight as well. I don't remember who they play, but they're going to beat the fuck out of whoever they do play. They're not. Because guess what?

Stoner is fucking hot. Blazing hot. They played Ovi and the Caps tonight. You guys are dead. Oh, really? Because the Caps went into overtime last night. You know what we're going to do? First, when they drop the puck, Stoner's going to say, Ovi, I want you.

He's going to go. He's going to knock his fucking teeth out. Rattle his cage right away. Ovi doesn't have any. Ovi doesn't have any. Well, what? The two side teeth he's got? Ovi doesn't even have teeth.

He's going to knock them out, and fucking Stoner's going to feed them to Jackie Aces. Jackie Aces is going to fucking eat them on the ice and wash them down with an ice cold beer. So the Capitals win by five tonight, probably, every last night. You know what? The Pens beat the Bruins probably by six or seven. I don't know what that is. You guys are about to experience what life is like as a Red Wings fan who lose by fucking eight goals every single night.

The Pens fucking sink. And unfortunately... We're favored tonight. Get your fucking trash taken. Exactly, which is awesome for people who want to bet and win money. The Caps, they are calling them the Craptals this year. They are not good at hockey. The Vegas Gold Knights.

We can't lose to the Craptals. Well, we won't. We won't. You can't lose to the Craptals. Mark at hockey. The Vegas Gold Knights can't lose to the Crapitals. You can't lose to the Crapitals. Mark my words. The Vegas Knights win 4-0 tonight. Over. The Crapitals. While Bill Carlson has a fucking hat trick. You've been pretty accurate.

I've been locked in. I've watched a lot of hockey so far. I haven't missed a second of this. I haven't missed a shift. Who's your team? The Blackhawks this year because that's where Jack is? They stink. Hell, yeah.

Worst team in hockey. They stink. They're the worst team in hockey, not just on the ice, off the ice as well. Yeah. They got that video. They're right in the middle. Oh, come on. Blackhawks.

Sorry about it. So the Pens, best team? No. No, no, no. They are bottom. They're 22nd in the league out of 32. I mean, they just lost by 20 goals in No. No, no, no. They are 22nd in the league out of 32. I mean, they just lost by 20 goals in Canada. Oh, no.

Okay. I mean, they went through Canada and lost. You don't even host a hockey show anymore. Please, you don't know hockey. What do you know? You're in the trenches. You're not in the ice. You don't know hockey.

What are you even talking about? Nick, what's going on with the Pens? Everything you just said accurate? Are we really? Yeah, they lost a couple games in Western Canada on a road trip. Who cares? Bruins are 8-1. Who cares?

We're the best in the fucking league. Plus 18 goal differential. Sorry about it. Costas off to his best start ever. He's got seven goals in tennis and fucking nine games. Why are we favored tonight? What is going on? We're four scores.

Oh, my God. Where's Pittsburgh? We're four scores. Stay down there. Jeez, Luis. Jeez. my God. Where's Pittsburgh? We're four-scrolls. Jeez, Luis. Jeez. That sucks. 20 seconds.

Good. Oh, man. That's a long way to the top. Yeah. Hey, Ty. Nice to see you up here. Fucking nights are so good. Jeez.

Jesus Christ. The view from up here is kind of difficult with all these other bond teams. I fucking hate it. Why won't the Pens just be good? This bit would be so much better. Maybe if I actually could say what I actually said was real. Because at one point it was. You know, at one point in recent history,

the Pittsburgh Penguins were the fucking wagon. The Pittsburgh Penguins were the team that, you know, would go on a run out of nowhere, would be beloved, not only by their fans, but by NHL fans as a whole. Hey, this is a team you should like. Greatest player of all time is playing for them right in front of your eyes. You're getting a chance to witness greatness every single night. And he plays

too. It's not like he's resting his body. Sidney Crosby's been playing for 45 years in the NHL ever since he's a 17-year-old. He's playing every fucking night. Geno's still there. Chris is still there. The team is unbelievable. They just stink these days. What is still there. The team is unbelievable. They just stink these days. What's that all about?

Well, I mean, you can still have some excitement, because if I know anything about the NHL, and I believe Sid the Kid has said this to the media, he's done everything there is to do in his career so far. He's got one thing left he wants to do, and that's play on the same line as Stoner. So who knows? Maybe you get the chance to see Sid the Kid playing in Vegas, hoisting

Ward Stanley's cup. He's never seen that. He's seen Mobile Arena, the best bar in the league. Wow. That's awesome. Sid never said that. No, he did. Sid never said that.

Phil's out there right now. I think I saw that. He's one of his best friends. He said, listen, I've done everything there is to do in this league. There's one thing left to do, and that's fucking play on the line with Stoner. Well, see, I thought he said about playing on the line with Posta, and we're going to bring Posta down to Pittsburgh because Posta hated playing for the Bruins.

No, Posta, you know, they brought in Posta's best friend, David Krejci, who took the year off last year, and now Posta's having the greatest season he's ever had already. And, you know, for you, it's great. It's a win-win tonight. You beat the best team in the NHL, or you lose to the best team in the NHL, so there's no harm in either of them. Why are we favored? What do you mean?

I don't know. I'd hate to see that Ono Express get fired up tomorrow, though. We're underdogs. We're not supposed to win tonight, so I'm not that worried about it. I'll hop on the Ono Express. It's fun. No, not when you're an underdog. We've all been on it. Plus, now I root for the only footballo Express. It's fun. No, not when you're $100. Well, I mean, we've all been on it.

Plus, you know, now I root for the only football team that's 500 or better in this office. So, no big deal. What are you talking about? The Giants are. Oh, true, Bruce. Bruce and the Giants. Colts are dead. We just traded.

I mean, we're dead. Yeah. Right? That's what that is. Is that what an indicator is right there? You don't want to know what you got back. There's not a single team. Compensation has been put out for the Naeem Hines trade

from the Indianapolis Colts to the Buffalo Bills. 15 Bibles. In return, the Bills are trading running back Zach Moss in a six-round pick that can go to a fifth runner of the Colts. There you go. Zach Moss. You want a bag of balls, too? Zach Moss was their second

Back and then he So he's third string running back It's not bad maybe you guys use that fifth round pick And get a receiver from like Saskatchewan State Or something next year Saskatoon State See this is what I'm talking about That's a huge pick

I don't understand any of it Christian McCaffrey goes for two third rounders Because coaches fucking left. Everybody, oh, Carolina Panthers won. Then a guy fucking throws a touchdown, runs a touchdown, and catches a touchdown the next week. And people will still think that the Carolina Panthers won somehow. This is a six-round pick for fucking Naeem Hines?

And Zach Moss. Don't forget, because if Jonathan Taylor can't find the ball, he will. Does Zach Moss play special teams? Does he play special teams? I'm not sure. Nine minds are a return. Sources are saying you get a jugs machine, too. Thank you, Zito.

All right, you just fucking. That's a Chicago Bear fan, able to say that. Yeah. Fair enough. Able to say that. Same record. That is unbelievable. Let's get out of here.

All right, everybody, I Hope you had a great day. It's been fun talking about the path. Yep. Save the day. Oh. Oh. That was good. Ooh.

Yep. Oh. That's the day. That's the day. Wow. Nine minds for a six-round pick. What the fuck are we doing? Just unloading a salary?

Is that what that is? On to next year. We're done. See you guys tomorrow, man. Lots to talk about. Hey, lots to talk about tomorrow. And we're going to do it right here on Pat McAfee's show. Hell yeah.

Hammered Downs in 15 minutes. That's Hockey Talks tomorrow night at 8. Penguins beat the Bruins tonight. Hell yeah. Hammered Downs in 15 minutes. That's Hockey Talks tomorrow night at 8. Mm-hmm. Penguins beat the Bruins tonight. Whoa. Hell yeah. What channel? TNT?

ESPN? ESPN. Oh. Hockey Night in America. Oh, yes. Leah Hextall on the call. Whoa. The world's going to be watching.

Let's go, Pengs, dude. All right, see everybody tomorrow. Feels like a couple of our teams maybe waved the white flag. Yeah. We'll talk about the teams that said, nah, nah, we're going to win a Super Bowl tomorrow and more. I think we have a couple of our teams maybe waved the white flag we'll talk about the teams that said nah nah we're going to win

a Super Bowl tomorrow and more I think we have a couple great guests tomorrow I think who do we have tomorrow Zito we have somebody

don't we that we don't know Obama NASCAR driver Ross Chastain oh yeah the guy who fucking floored it

into the wall yeah oh sweet he'll be joining us tomorrow cut a great promo too I had the GameCube in 2006. Yeah.

Played NASCAR, and we used to just pull in fifth gear. You used to be able to kind of slingshot your way around there as opposed to hitting the brake. Never thought it would work, but kind of needed it to happen. It did. He's in the final four now or something like that. What an electrifying video. If you haven't seen it on the internet, check it out before a conversation with this guy tomorrow. Might have the biggest baletas in all of NASCAR.

Purposely crashed his car to get himself up, and it ended up working. Zito just came into my ear. We don't know if that's confirmed yet, so we will not drop that news. That could be a big deal, though. What are you doing? Did you hear that, too? Yeah. Okay, we don't know if it's confirmed.

Oh, shit. What was it? How do you hear it? So, yeah, we don't know if it's confirmed. Oh, shit. What was it? How do you hear it? So, yeah. We don't know yet. There's another guess maybe coming. You're voting yes, it sounds like. I hope so.

Billy Joel? It's not Billy Joel. Joe Biden? Oh, that'd be awesome. It's not the president of the United States. Chocolate chip, chocolate chip. It's not whoever that is either. Maybe.

I don't know. I don't talk to this person. Maybe they say chocolate chip, chocolate chip all the time. It's a Biden thing. Chocolate, chocolate chip. But chocolate chip, chocolate chip works too. Remember? Why does Zito just drop a box?

What are you talking about? Because I said the president. Oh, your president. No, not mine. Yeah, he is. My president. Are you a traitor? you're not a United States American citizen

yeah I am a citizen oh yeah it's Boston call me Bill Belichick sorry anyways it's not your president whose president is it oh there's no presidents

joining us oh alright we'll see you guys tomorrow this is a really bad day for Colts fan I think oh yeah Whose president is it, then? Oh, there's no presidents joining us. Oh. All right. We'll see you guys tomorrow. This is a really bad day for a Colts fan, I think. Oh, yeah. Bad day for the Packers.

Penguins. Broncos. Penguins are going to save it all tonight. Oh, yeah. Have a good one, Hammer. Dons in 15 minutes. Cheers.