The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 800 - Monday Night Football Recap, Aaron Rodgers Tuesday Season 3 Week 12, USA vs Iran World Cup LIVE, In The Trenches With AQ Shipley LIVE In The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: November 29, 2022

On today's show, Pat, AQ Shipley, AJ Hawk, and the boys discuss last night's Monday Night Football game and all the fallout from it including people killing Jeff Saturday's decision to go home with tw...o timeouts on the final drive that resulted in the Steelers winning 24-17. Joining the progrum to chat about a wide range of topics including his play against the Eagles on Sunday Night, his injury status, life after football and much more is 4X MVP, Super Bowl Champion, Quarterback of the Green Bay Packers, Aaron Rodgers (57:45-1:38:01). Later, 12 year NFL veteran on the offensive line, AQ Shipley highlights the best offensive line play of the week in his weekly In The Trenches segment (1:38:03-2:27:01). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, beautiful people. Welcome to our humble abode of Thunderdome on this Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, November 29th, 2022. This dump show begins right now. Football! Wrapped up its week 12 slate last evening here in Indianapolis, Indiana, as the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Inzers far and wide made the pilgrimage to the Circle City and took on the Indianapolis Colts on Monday Night Football. Primetime game in Lucas Oil, which, Ben, it was the first time we got to experience a primetime game in our suite. There was a lot of people there. All the boys came out. Some people from Pittsburgh traveled in. Last night was a spectacular time in our suite.
Starting point is 00:00:47 I'm going to say that just because there's a lot of things whenever you watch Indianapolis Colts play, you can say, wow, this is very boring. The first half of that game was miserable to watch. The second half, obviously, things escalated quickly as there was a long return from number 33. I don't know his name for the Indianapolis Colts. After Jeff Saturday and Bubba Ventrone went into the locker room and said, hey, boys, we need to find a spark. We're down 16-3.
Starting point is 00:01:08 We haven't done shit. Here's the opening kickoff for the second half. The Colts get like a 70-yard return, set up the offense in beautiful fashion. Some electricity came back into Lucas Oil Stadium after a historic light show that happened at halftime with a drum line and cell phones. It felt like a big night. In the end, the Pittsburgh Steelers would defeat Jeff Saturday and the Indianapolis Colts, and it was certainly not a glorious outcome in a two-minute drill that was executed in a way that has been scrutinized by every football expert that has a microphone in front of them. I do disagree
Starting point is 00:01:44 with something that Jeff Saturday did last night. Before the third down play, after the second and 17 play, I think he should have called a timeout because everybody was tired. And that was a big time play. Here we are, second and 17, 57 seconds left. Have not used the timeout. Matt Ryan scrambles and bumbles and stumbles and gazelles his way for a 15-yard gain.
Starting point is 00:02:07 It would then become third down, third and two. Everybody, that was a long play. A lot of people down the field. Offensive linemen a little bit tired, a little disheveled. Does not use the timeout. Still has all three remaining. I think there is where he should have used the timeout immediately upon Matt Ryan falling. Instead, Highsmith, who got the sack to create the second and 17 earlier, follows up, gets another tackle on Jonathan Taylor for a loss,
Starting point is 00:02:30 and then they would ultimately call a timeout, miss the fourth down. Steelers get the ball back. Indianapolis Colts and Jeff Saturday go into their sleep after Monday Night Football with two timeouts still left in their pocket. So everybody's burying and killing Jeff Saturday. I think Jeff Saturday's thoughts were, we're going to leave no time. In an actual play time, in what you need to call a timeout, only like 7 to 10 seconds. So whenever there's 45, 50 seconds left and hasn't used one yet, I don't think that was a problem. I think you're okay.
Starting point is 00:03:00 You're still in a great spot. Especially with Matt Ryan being a veteran quarterback, knowing when he has to get a ball out, where a ball has to go, saving them until the very end so that it's the last play of you scoring and they don't have to give the ball back, or two seconds left, you don't have to give the ball back, I'm okay with. After that very long, and I'm not just talking about yardage-wise, what Matt Ryan ran and what everybody else on the field ran, but also timing-wise, how long it took.
Starting point is 00:03:22 With a third and two, need to get a first down, I think you have to call a timeout there. But if they end up picking up that first down, go on and score. Jeff Saturday's a fucking genius. He left no time on the clock for Mike Tomlin. Goes for two, wins the game by one, no time left. Walk off on the tunnel with Colts Air Blue, who beat the fuck out of Foxy, and everybody into the locker room, and you're happy.
Starting point is 00:03:40 So, once again, hindsight's always a gift. I think Jeff, in my personal opinion, made a mistake before the third down. That's the conversation this morning. What the conversation should be is that Kenny Pickett might be a fucking guy. What the conversation should be is that Mike Tomlin, yet again, probably going to end up with a winning record for the, what, 18th? No. How many years? 17th straight year as a head coach. Never having a losing season. Never thought this was going to be the year they were going to do it because of how bad they started. Kenny Pickett comes in.
Starting point is 00:04:10 He's getting better. Their defense hunts now. Is that because the Colts can't do much offensively for whatever reason whenever it comes to certain times of the game? Maybe. But the defense still has guys. T.J. Watt is all the way back. I don't think the Steelers are going to be able to go on a run this year.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Obviously, the record states that. The depth of the AFC does that. But Kenny Pickett seemingly is a guy for the future for Pittsburgh. That's a great conversation piece. And with Indianapolis, I would assume at this point, Jeff, Saturday's thinking about everybody's mad that I got this job. So am I at this point. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:38 It stinks. We were staring down. The first week we won. That was awesome. Now we lose to a team that people don't think are good. We got more games coming. Jonathan Taylor last week saying, give me the ball. Gets the ball in third down.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Doesn't get it. But nobody was blocked. I mean, he's got to deal with it now. So now he's going to have to deal with all the shit that he signed up to deal with. And I wonder if the people who were killing him before are killing him now because he's going to have to deal with the bullshit at a very, very regular rate. Excited to see how he handles it. Fun night last night.
Starting point is 00:05:08 I can't thank the talks table at Boston Connor, at Ty Schmidt enough for stopping by. Hope you boys enjoyed last night. It was a good time. Hey, that's what we got to sweet for. I wish the Colts would get good so we'd have more primetime games. That'd be cool. That'd be sweet if we had more primetime. That was the first Monday Night Football game in seven years in Indianapolis.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Which is kind of unbelievable when you think about it. But it is. Seven years is a long time. There's just something different about watching a game when you're down there and the energy in there. Our seats are stupid. It's unbelievable. None of us deserve the seats that we're in.
Starting point is 00:05:38 It's so awesome. I feel bad almost talking about it because it is not a normal experience at all. When I was growing up, we weren't able to get Steelers tickets because it was sold out forever. And the ones that people sold were so expensive. It's like the McAfee family is like, we're not going to spend money on that. We'll watch the game. So when I won punt, pass, and kick, got to go to a game. Thought it was the coolest thing of all time being at a game.
Starting point is 00:06:02 I got to go on a field at the punt, pass, and kick thing and do the whole thing. And I remember thinking, like, how fucking cool this whole thing is. So it is not lost upon any of us, I think, like what is cool. Dapped up and chatted with basically, I don't know, like 10 of the Steelers coaches and players and warm-ups before the game. Got a chance to chat with Boswell, who's on IR. I believe his recovery is going well. I don't want to break any news, but I think that's going pretty well.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Dude, he looks so cool. He's a very cool looking dude. He comes over, daps us up. And then the all-time leading tackler for the Duquesne Dukes, who's currently the long snapper for the Pittsburgh Steelers, Christian Kuntz. He comes over. It's my first time meeting him. And he has a full Duquesne.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Oh, Duquesne. We're the school that's right above the prison, but yeah, we're the best school in town. That whole thing, yeah. Had a full Duquesne moment. And if you're in Pittsburgh, you understand everything we just said about the Duquesne people
Starting point is 00:06:54 and the way they talk. That happened. And then I got a chance to chat with Presley Harvin, too, the punter of the Steelers. And he's got such a fucking massive leg. He was hitting some balls in warm-ups that were like big balls. Now, he was ha to us after murdering the balls, which I loved. I like to see every punter have that kind of feeling.
Starting point is 00:07:14 That's what I did whenever I hit big balls. But we got a quick chance to chat. I like him a lot. Putting in Pittsburgh is going to be tough regardless. I mean, that stadium is going to make you bad at some point. I just had a nice convo with him about like, hey, man, you're 270 pounds, very strong. You make solid contact with the ball.
Starting point is 00:07:32 That thing's going to go where you want it to go. And I didn't necessarily want to frame it as advice because I don't want him to think that I'm trying to give him advice because I don't think he's good because I do. I think he's really fucking good. I think he's got a really strong leg. But anytime I try to talk to these young because i punted like how he when i was young i punted like how he punts which is like hey i'm gonna fucking murder this ball i am gonna
Starting point is 00:07:54 drop this thing and i am gonna swing so hard and whenever i catch it there are other punters other kickers people that know kicking are gonna see this and be like damn i can't do that like i understand why he is doing what he's doing because I was very similar to him. It wasn't until I got like a little bit older where I was like, oh, that is not what's going to keep me in this league for a long time because everybody could do that. Like the next year, like the guy that's younger than me does that and I go, fuck, I can't do what that guy just did. Then the next year does it. It's just about hitting the ball consistently and turning it over. So I tried in the middle of a conversation just to tell him, like, hey, let's put the 5-6 to bed, which is a 5-6 hanging time, and let's just bring in the 4-9 every single time.
Starting point is 00:08:35 It will make a lot more money. But he's a cool guy with a good attitude. I think you guys got a good one, even though Steelers fans are going to hate every punter that goes there because it's going to be difficult to punt there for a long time. Josh Miller might have been the last one that was liked. Love you, Josh. Love Josh.
Starting point is 00:08:47 And I don't know what his stats were. I have no idea if he was even good. But I remember he was a hilarious dude, and he seemed to turn the ball over lefty all the time. But I like chatting with them. A bunch of the coaches, Blaine Stewart, who's our wide receiver coach, I've known him since he was literally knee-high, like people say about that, but I actually did.
Starting point is 00:09:03 His dad, Bill Stewart, was my coach at West Virginia and whenever he would have Thanksgiving or Christmas at his house and we get invited over I've known him since he was a kid obviously Bill has passed away since then uh Mike Tomlin hires Blaine Stewart because Mike Tomlin's first job was from Bill Stewart way back in the day in like the Virginia Military Academy I think or something like that so Tomlin's been close with the family so Blaine's coaching he's the big that people – there's a picture on the sidelines of Mike Tomlin doing something, and then there will be a pretty bland-looking white that looks like me with a beard, and it will be right over Tomlin's shoulder,
Starting point is 00:09:38 and I'll get tweeted like, McAfee's coaching for – that's actually my dude. I've actually known Blaine since he was like this big. Wearing all yellow. All yellow, yeah. Great coach. Last night he had all yellow on. Great coach, great dude. I've known him forever. Got a chance to chat with him. Coach Alfredo Roberts, who's with you guys now. Coach Fredo was with the Colts for a long time. Got a chance to chat with him. Danny Smith, special teams. I mean, where we're sitting, the experience we have for the games, absolutely fucking stupid. Bubba Ventron, special teams coordinator for the Colts.
Starting point is 00:10:05 After a 59-yarder gets blocked against us, he, like, comes out, and we just so happen to make eye contact, have a quick dap up and talk about what just happened, then he goes on his way, then his kickoff return team does it or whatever. It's just, like, it is so fucking stupid what we're doing down there, and I can't thank you all enough for coming in last night having a blast. That was a fucking lot of fun. There was a moment last night where I was thinking to myself,
Starting point is 00:10:25 this is like awesome. This is so much fun right now. And I appreciate it. And I, you know, the Colts should have won, of course. Yeah. Well, and thanks for getting the sweet. Cause it really is. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:10:36 Like that, like you don't get experiences like that. I'm like not to step on what Tony, I don't know if he was going to say this or not, but he tweeted it last night. Like how many times during the game, like the Steelers are on offense, they're huddled up. I don't know if it was going to say this or not, but he tweeted it last night. Like, how many times during the game, like, the Steelers are on offense. They're huddled up. I don't know if it was, like, a timeout or the end of the quarter, and fucking Muth is looking at us.
Starting point is 00:10:51 We're yelling at him, and he's just flexing at us. Boys. Yeah, like, directly at us. Like, no, like. Look at his fucking jersey. Yeah, exactly. Muth! So, the Kansas City Chiefs, when they're playing in your stadium,
Starting point is 00:11:04 you know how many of their fans are there immediately upon the national anthem. And we do it all the time, but it's worth noting because it is so impressive. And if you're not following along, I don't think a lot of people know that this happens, but a quick check on how many fans from the other team are in the stadium, you find out at certain points during the game. Sometimes it's not until very late in the game whenever they're potentially winning and their fans come alive.
Starting point is 00:11:29 The Chiefs have the fucking national anthem. And every time it's Chiefs, you hear it. Like every stadium you're in. And if you're a Chiefs player, it's probably like, okay, another fucking home game here. It's cool. Like that's a cool environment that the Chiefs fans bring. Tone, last night, after the national anthem goes off or whatever,
Starting point is 00:11:49 and we start looking around and we start seeing some terrible towels, and it's only a six-hour drive right across 70, which Indianapolis or Indiana State Police last night, they got my wife and I, they got my wife and I, sitting on a bridge on 70 West, which is Pittsburgh to Indianapolis, is literally straight on 70. You're just fucking, which is Pittsburgh to Indianapolis, is literally straight on 70. You're just fucking going right across 70 to Indianapolis. They had a fucking whole speed trap set up strictly, I assume,
Starting point is 00:12:12 for Monday Night Football. My wife got pulled over. There were six others. Seven of us were all pulled over on the side of the road. Obviously, if I was driving, it wouldn't have happened. I mean, she should have seen the cop with no lights on up on a bridge above overpass in dark while we're driving here. It wasn't until we got like literally 10 feet from it. Too late.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Where I was like, oh, shit, there's a cop because I haven't been driving downtown a lot. That is a place that they hang out. Oh, yeah. And then a cop fucking comes off the side of the road. I'm like, I got you, Sam. She's like, no, they didn't or whatever. And then it was, they got you. She's like, ah, they didn't or whatever. And then it was, they got you. She's like, ah, they did, they did.
Starting point is 00:12:47 So we pull over. We see the whole thing. And there's seven people pulled over. I guess when somebody else came in, there was six. I think when Zito said he came down, there was six people pulled over. And then they inevitably shut it down because they probably could have just got however many they wanted. And I'm sitting on 70 the night pittsburgh's coming into town quite a strategy interesting oh we appreciate what you're doing uh but you got us you got us
Starting point is 00:13:12 got their quota for the quarter and i'm from pittsburgh so i guess you did get some pittsburgh money in that whole thing as well while pulling over an indianapolis person and traffic you know wasn't great because everybody's trying to get into the city and you're running a speed trap. Whatever the case, we will slow down. And thank you for not putting it at the actual speed that we're driving. We had you at laser 76. Going to put you at 65, though, so it's not as much damage. There you go.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Thank you so much. Really appreciate that. But Tone said immediately after the national anthem, can't wait for Fryer Moose to do something. Need an early one. So we can hear how many Muths are in the stadium. So that's like Heath Miller used to be the Pittsburgh Steelers. So whenever he would get the ball, the entire place would scream, Heath! So that was almost like their home of the Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:13:59 And lo and behold, when Muth got the fucking ball, it was Muth! It was a base across the entire stadium. A lot of yinzers in that stadium last night. I assume there was some interesting yinzer shit going on around that stadium where a lot of Indianapolis people were learning about Pittsburgh people last night. Great environment. Tone Diggs won half of the hammer. Done.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Cowboys, you were celebrating loud. You were very proud. Big-time win for your Steelers. Where are the Steelers right now in your mind? And what did you see from the team whenever you got eyes on the boys? Well, Steelers right now in my mind are exactly where I wanted them to be. Okay, I said 7-2 after the bye. They're 2-1 after the bye.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Easy schedule coming up. Okay, 7-2 after the bye is easily attainable. Probably going to win a playoff game or two if I had to take a guess. I mean, Kenny, the future kp and gp are making strides every single week k they are going to be a problem uh four guys rushed for over 30 yards last night gp being george pickens yes correct that guy right there the uh gilly lock on him i don't know the 85 percent steelers crowd was fucking pumped to see that happen uh eight we got steelers moved to 18-3 since 1984 against Colts.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Is that good? I don't know. Sorry about it. I feel pretty good. I feel pretty good about the season moving forward. Fucking slew of running backs. It doesn't matter who's back there. Well, Benny Snell seemingly has been with the Steelers forever.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Yeah, yeah. Papa Maines, who's that? Made a good play. And we said it's McFarlarland or Benny Snow or whatever. We didn't know the number. And we're like, it was Benny Snow. He goes, Benny Snow don't do that. He goes, that's not Benny Snow.
Starting point is 00:15:33 It's like Benny Snow, I think, has had these types of games for the Steelers in the past, right? Every once in a while. He's been there for, I think, four years. Benny Snow football was coined a couple years ago when he had a good game and Tomlin loved it. They're few and far between, but injuries. Well, it's seemingly what Papa Mains was saying. Benny Snell. Benny Snell had a big night last night. Monday Night Football,
Starting point is 00:15:53 Benny Snell got in the end zone. Benny Snell was making some plays. Another guy that I think had an incredible evening for the Pittsburgh Steelers, and you mentioned it there, Kenny Pickett. Yeah. Huh?
Starting point is 00:16:06 Made some throws. Good arm talent. Yeah. He is. There were some moments where, and obviously this two-point conversion to George Pickens is awesome, and George Pickens runs off his guy, acts like he's going the other way. It was a great set of high football IQ shit.
Starting point is 00:16:19 And then the Cristiano Ronaldo celebration afterwards was obviously sweet. But Kenny Pickett, there was moments where, and where we sit is a joke, so we get to see it differently. Where it was like seven on seven, where there was a perfect passing lane would open up, and he would just put it right where it needed to be. And I don't know if he's getting as much respect for being a young quarterback as other young quarterbacks are because the Steelers are having a year in which it's not as good as it has been for the last 20 years,
Starting point is 00:16:46 so they're not chatting about it. Number 20 overall pick, wears gloves, comes out of Pitt. Pitt hadn't really been creating quarterback-like, you know, powers in the last three. They win the ACC. Nobody really talks about that either in the whole conversation of sports, really. Is this guy going to be good? I think he is. I got a text from Chuck Pagano last night night it's like the moxie the composure
Starting point is 00:17:05 seemingly can make every throw guy's a fucking player you feel like that yeah yeah i do i i like i talked about earlier in the season he sits in there he fucking makes good decisions quick decisions uh he's not afraid to take a hit he's accurate there was a third and i think it was third and 12 last night where they had just gone three and out twice and all the momentum was the colts and needed a play made a throw to pickens across the middle which was fucking huge that that spurred a drive that pretty much sealed it for them uh he i think a lot of people got a bad taste for kenny because what was it he came in three interceptions had two the next game he hasn't had a turnover in the last three games i I think he's starting to figure it out, which
Starting point is 00:17:45 this day and age, rookie quarterbacks sometimes don't get a lot of time to figure it out before the public perception has already made up their mind on a guy, but I think Kenny's playing pretty well right now. I think so, too. I think he had a great night. Joining us now is obviously the host of In the Trenches and the Bobbled Exchange. A man who played 12 years in the NFL, a Penn State graduate.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Yeah, a member of that cult. Ladies and gentlemen, Super Bowl champion, center, guard, wedge. Yeah. Fullback. Wed. And coach, A.Q. Shippen. How we doing? Was that all the positions?
Starting point is 00:18:16 I think so. Maybe a little tight end. H-back for a game or two? A little tight end. A little motion up to tight end every once in a while. But you're a fullback, right? Yeah, I was really the aviator. I was fullback.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I thought you had me there, and then you said motioned up, and I'm like, got it. I'm still right. I still covered it. Yeah, you nailed it. Yeah, you're a freak athlete, freak show athlete. Last night you didn't join us for the game.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Thank you for that, traveling in early and really good to be a part of the group. That was really – that could have happened. That was good on me. Could have been there. I thought about that this morning when I woke up. You know, I woke up a little later this morning because we were out a little later last night. And I'm like, what do we got on the show today? And I was like, oh, we got it in the trenches today.
Starting point is 00:18:52 We got Aaron Rodgers Tuesday. I'm like, AQ. And then I started thinking about AQ. AQ flies in on Monday night. Hold on. Hey, was your phone broke? Was your phone broke yesterday? I don't think I got an invite.
Starting point is 00:19:01 Oh, okay. Shut up, dude. 35 years old. Got like 14 jobs running a business you're right i i should have that's as far as the first thing i was putting up the grinch that's what i was doing yesterday i did i saw that your daughter loved that too you're a good dad good dad great dad we know his hotel routine he didn't have time until he come to the game yeah of course yeah i gotta do what you gotta do get. Get the lotion. Get the lotion.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Obviously don't have dry skin. Yeah. You watched the game last night. Obviously you've seen it. You watch it while you're traveling. You always break it down. What did you see from both those teams? And it'll probably be the last take we have on this game because both of them, end of the day, losing records and fucking out of it.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Yeah. So we've talked a lot about it because we were there. It involves basically half of our teams. But the conversation about the Steelers-Colts is going to go no further than Jeff Saturday fucking ruining it at the end is there anything else we should be talking about and what are your thoughts about Jeff Saturday at the end I think the other thing we need to talk about was the fact that the Colts did not complete a pass until midway through the second quarter that was their first completed pass so that's the first thing we're good should we bring that up no I'm okay with that okay just
Starting point is 00:20:02 are choosing to run the ball all the time before doing that. That's not the case, though. No. We started the game. We started the game. Throw. Interception. Pick.
Starting point is 00:20:13 Yeah, throw, pick. Jonathan Taylor's standing on the field. So I started thinking to myself, why the fuck are we not running the goddamn ball? And then, you know, the game keeps going jonathan starts running a little bit then i'm like wow we can't just run every time we gotta open the box up a little bit because our offense line isn't as good and then now the question is can matt ryan do that right that's what everybody's asking is that what you are alluding to right now yeah i mean a little bit maybe but like i remember watching colts run game stuff two years ago and it was creative it's a lot
Starting point is 00:20:43 of the shit we're doing every week on In the Trenches, right? It's a lot of the mystery. How many years ago? Two years ago. I mean, even last year, a lot of the stuff they were doing was really good stuff. But for whatever reason, you're not seeing as much shifts in motions. They're just running basic inside zone. They're doing this stuff.
Starting point is 00:20:58 They're not doing it. I mean, even the play that the Jets had, the big touchdown, the fake pitch, hand back, I mean, the Colts ran that two years ago. They have it on film. Now you're saying it's a stale, boring run game. It's the old stuff. It's the old school stuff. And I don't know what happened.
Starting point is 00:21:12 I don't know why it's gone that way. But it's quite interesting to watch. Hold on. Is this a little bit of a baby face turn for the Colts offensive line I'm hearing from you? Like, hey, maybe it is schematically an issue why they're struggling in there? And is this not something Jeff Saturday would see immediately and be like, and you know who else is there? Kevin Mawai.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Yeah, two Hall of Fame linemen. Centers. Two Hall of Fame centers. Two Hall of Fame centers are there. So why would they be running this basic-ass shit, you think? Why is that? I don't know. I really don't.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Is that a real problem, though, running the basic shit? I don't necessarily think. If you have the guys, they don't have all the same guys they had, right? I think the left tackle is a newer guy. I think one of the guards, maybe right guard. Yeah, right guard. Will Fries. Newer guy, right?
Starting point is 00:21:50 So maybe there's some breaking in there. But for them not being able to understand the concepts or execute the concepts? Probably execute more than understand. Like the pulls and everything? Yeah. Anytime. Listen, when you have a younger group, you don't want to have all – a lot of that misdirection, a lot of that shifts and motions, all that stuff,
Starting point is 00:22:11 you take the risk of jumping off sides because it's always on some type of double cadence, right? So you have that. And then there's a lot of other stuff that you maybe not want to put on a young guy's brain. I don't know the answer to that, but all I know is what I'm watching on tape, it's not the same as it looked last year and the year before. But that affects everything, right? Because when the run game doesn't get going and you have an MVP guy in the backfield, the defense can adjust the way they
Starting point is 00:22:34 operate against you, right? Which then puts a lot of onus on Matt Ryan having to make throws that maybe this Matt Ryan can't make that he used to be able to make. But, if it was similar holes or options that maybe Phil Rivers had a couple years ago when they were doing different things with the run game so they had different people in the box, Matt Ryan could make those throws.
Starting point is 00:22:50 Is this inevitably our problem? Is there a basic-ass run schemes are the problem? Have we got to the root of why the Colts are at the place that they're at right now, AQ, in your mind? It could be a piece to it, honestly. I mean, it's – Come on, boys. I talk about it every week.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Let's run some fucking... Let's run... Creative gadgets. Da-da-da-da-da. We make them all... Everybody thinks we're joking when we do that because we've got
Starting point is 00:23:11 such a clever little song with Inspector Gadget, Creative Gadget, but it needs to happen. Like, it helps the entire thing. It's the game. You have to help the offensive line
Starting point is 00:23:19 in today's game. You have to. It's inevitable that the guys on the other side are freaks on every single team. Cam Hayward, a dog, right? Like, there's... You have to. It's inevitable that the guys on the other side are freaks on every single team. Cam Hayward, a dog, right? You have to do something three, four times a game to make it easy on the guys up front. And you'll see it later.
Starting point is 00:23:34 You'll see it every week. The teams that are doing that are the teams that are successful. Well, how much of that potentially, and granted, personnel is different and they have a quarterback who can run, but Sirianni was there two years ago. We see the Eagles a lot on in the trenches you know like they're running a lot of those twice yeah rather than twice of course and granted their offensive line's great and they have jalen hurts who you have to account for and they have a good running back but like how much of that is potentially sirianni was the one who was maybe scheming a lot of that stuff two years ago that's
Starting point is 00:24:00 a great point it's a great point you you you probably hit it on the head and when you have sirianni and you see what they're doing, and then you see what is it? He's been there two years, right? Yeah. In the last two years, you're not seeing the Colts do it? You could very easily connect the dots. Well, and then Sirianni's like, that's fucking for Frank! Yeah. It's like, okay,
Starting point is 00:24:18 well, why didn't you do something for Frank and stay? It would maybe give him your run game. Yeah. Okay, Sirianni? We love Sirianni around here. Everybody so we love Sirianni around here. Everybody knows we love Sirianni around here. But him yelling at Colts fans, that's for Frank. It's like, Nick, why'd you leave Frank then? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:33 You know, because when you left Frank. You exposed him. The team started looking vastly different over here. And we've been paying money to watch it for a little bit. And it hasn't been anywhere near the same. Now Frank's gone, so we can't blame him. But you got nobody that knows any of the plays that's left on staff. Why?
Starting point is 00:24:49 Two Hall of Fame centers, basically, in that operation right there. Who's the run game coordinator? Is it the offensive line coach? So why is the assistant a line coach? I do know when you're an assistant, you don't have very much say so. What about Parks Francis? By the way, there's what we're talking about with Jeff Saturday potentially helping people out.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Kevin Mawai, how many time All-Pro? I mean, a billion. Every year? I think he's in the 10s, right? I mean, I think he's 10, 11 years somewhere, Pro Bowler. Then he was NFL PA president, which kind of got him. That kind of happens at the end of your career. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:26 If you show any flaw and you're also a part of trying to get more money from the NFL and you're the main vote, you're probably – J.C. Tretter, I mean, as soon as he signed up for that job, he knew. Writing's on the wall. Yeah. If I don't play literally the best at my position, there's going to be so many – Don't need it. We won't spend that type of money on it.
Starting point is 00:25:48 We'll get a younger guy that we can develop or whatever. It just seems to happen. I'm not saying they're colluding. Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying it seemingly is the case every time it happens. So our focus group, our studies have indicated that maybe that is what's happening, but we're not guaranteeing that that is definitely taking place.
Starting point is 00:26:09 But Kevin Mawai, assistant offensive line coach, like that's what we're talking about. That's what the Jeff Saturday thing going on. This guy, assistant offensive line coach to somebody who I assume is, you know, definitely much better at football than Mawai, probably technique than Mawai. And I would assume maybe he just wanted to sign up to learn what the day-to-day is supposed to be like, which I think you can learn as an assistant. Jeff Saturday did not get an opportunity to learn what the day-to-day is,
Starting point is 00:26:38 how to set up a schedule, how coaches operate, what it is, and everything like that. I'm sure he can learn that pretty quickly. So maybe we might be speaking out of pocket for Kevin why doing that, but he's an assistant offensive line coach. That guy's drawing up cards. Right? That guy's drawing up cards. Making little,
Starting point is 00:26:54 very little money in comparison to what he's made in the past. He's a full-blown adult, family, full career, already finished assistant offensive line coach, drop cards, do what you gotta do. It's like, that's why we are so pumped for Jeff Saturday to get the opportunity that he got. And hopefully, you know, Jeff Saturday will be able to be a case
Starting point is 00:27:10 where people say, look, it can work. Now, with how loud it's getting about the two-minute thing last night, it seems like any flaw, just like we said about the NFL PA president, any flaw that Jeff Saturday has as a coach is certainly going to get magnified. We're certainly going to hear about it. And once again, I think before the third down should have called a timeout. Other than that, I'm cool with everything else that he did. I agreed with you.
Starting point is 00:27:31 I mean, 100%. That was the first thing we talked about this morning. Listen, I'm all for letting the guys make plays. Listen, we're in a rhythm. We're moving the ball. Let's let them play. We got them reeling. There's a thought.
Starting point is 00:27:42 There's a thought. Just as we can sit here and say, oh, well, maybe we're tired. Let's take a timeout. They're tired, too. And I love when D-line are tired because they're not getting off like they normally do. And so I completely get that. But when it was third and one, third and two, when Matt didn't dive for the first down, he comes up short, and you have to take a timeout there.
Starting point is 00:28:01 You have to. Everybody's gassed. Yeah, you got to play what would have worked if Highsmith was the only guy who wasn't blocked. He fucking shot a gap, got in the backfield. Everyone else, like Cam Hayward was right next to him. He was dead tired. I don't know who was next to him. But, like, those guys weren't.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Like, they were tired. Like, I think it might have been actually. It's just one guy can fuck something up every once in a while. Yeah, that's every single play. Yeah. But it's real. Like, if they pick that up and then call a timeout and it's a first
Starting point is 00:28:27 down, you have two timeouts left, 30 seconds left in the game or whatever, you're in a great spot. All of a sudden, you're in a great spot. But instead it gets tackled, Jeff Saturday's a fucking moron, taking timeouts to bed with him and everything out of there. I just think after
Starting point is 00:28:43 a 15-yard game by a guy who runs a 6'1", that's probably going to take a little while. The tape he has on his ankles. Some people just tape their ankles for looks and everything like that. Matt Ryan has got a full ice skate around his tape. He is locking those bad boys down, and I can respect it. So watching him run, I don't know how he gets any wiggle. He has cast.
Starting point is 00:29:04 He has two boots on. He's Carson Wentz. Yeah, he's Carson Wentz with the amount of tape that he puts on there. It's some of the finest athletic training taping. Sure. Oh, yeah. Maybe in all of professional sports with how much he has on there. So he's lumbering for 15.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Think about what everybody else is doing. Everybody else is like kind of running downfield just to get everybody. I just think there's where you call a timeout. But if he picks up the first down and then he calls a timeout and then they score, everything we're saying is wrong completely, and he did it how everybody's supposed to do it. It's a very fast. But anything Jeff does is going to get blown out of proportion
Starting point is 00:29:40 and certainly talked about, especially if it doesn't work out, which it did not last night. And I think that's what he said in his post-game press conference, which is why people are killing him, is he said he didn't call the timeout because he was waiting to see where the ball was spot. He didn't know if Matt picked up the first down or not. But, again, that's kind of what AQ said there. You know where he didn't dive for the first down is what AQ said
Starting point is 00:30:03 in the middle of his answer, trying to. Oh yeah, he's trying to throw a little bit of like, hey, what are you doing here, pal? But again, if they get the first down there and then they still have those timeouts and they go on and win the game, you know, Jeff Saturday's a hero today. Highsmith wrecked the game there last drive too. Should also be talked about. That guy has an engine.
Starting point is 00:30:19 I've kind of noticed too, I feel like listening to announcers and tell me if I'm wrong. Normally in the two-minute drill, either you're down a touchdown or you're not trying to leave them any time. A lot of these, they'll call a run or they'll call an easy pass just to get the clock going so it eats some time off of it. So if the other team does get the ball back, they don't have enough. And I feel like I don't know if that was always the approach, but it feels like coaches are getting scrutinized for not calling a timeout or a pass play immediately to start the drive.
Starting point is 00:30:49 So I think this all changes. Great observation, 10 digs in your cowboy hat. Sure. I think a lot of this started because Patrick Mahomes was able to score in a minute, and then offenses became being able to score within 35 seconds. I mean, fuck, it happened a few weeks ago tom brady against the rams yeah right it was 40 seconds and he scored in 20 seconds and 60 bills against whatever yeah so i think this has all come about pretty recent because of the ability for these offenses to move and how quickly people can get in the scoring
Starting point is 00:31:19 range so you can't just think about oh i have this amount of time to score. You have to think about, oh, I have this amount of time to score and also not give them enough time to score and get the ball back. So there's like a moving window that you kind of have to. We have to score in this amount of time, but we need them to have this little time at the tail end of it. So we need to kind of move, matriculate down the field in this particular rate, and this is why we need the clock to go. I think it's been added because of offenses.
Starting point is 00:31:47 Is that what you think, though? Is that why it's become a thing? Yeah, I mean, the big thing is, to allude to what you were saying, is you have to get either that first completion or if it's a draw or whatever, you've got to get positive yards on that first play. The minute you go second. Second and 17. You're at second and 17, or you're even second and 10.
Starting point is 00:32:04 The chances of you moving and even getting a first down there, the numbers go way down if you're looking at analytics. It's crazy. So you try and get that first play. Even if it's a short completion, it gets the quarterback comfortable, gets everybody else comfortable, and then now you feel like you can keep things rolling. Well, and having all those timeouts when you get down to the red zone
Starting point is 00:32:21 leaves the whole entire field open. You don't have to just work the sidelines because you don't want to get tackled inbounds with 15 seconds left and you don't get another playoff. Like, you have those two timeouts. You can use every play in the playbook. Just to kind of wrap up Monday Night Football between Colts and Steelers, which in the end probably not going to have anything to do with anything that matters.
Starting point is 00:32:41 No. I had a pretty heavy bet on Jelani Woods to score a touchdown. Plus 700, Jelani Woods. Now, everybody that's been listening to this show all season has known about me learning of Jelani Woods, thinking he was from a different school
Starting point is 00:32:57 and state as a whole when I first was introduced to this guy. Out of Virginia, went to Oklahoma State, six foot seven tight end that we have on the Indianapolis Colts. First time I seen him was first home game. He scored two fucking touchdowns on what? Two passes. That's all.
Starting point is 00:33:15 He was on the field for two plays, scored two touchdowns. Right in front of us. The one of them, the last one, was the game winner, won the fucking game right in front of us, turned around, literally i was i was standing on a platform obviously six foot seven literally eye to eye with this fucking guy and i saw the eyes of a fucking dog like this guy had just won the game flexing and i was staring into his eyes like probably one of the only people who was doing it at that time. And he was like, this dude's a guy.
Starting point is 00:33:45 So I come on the show. I say, we got a guy. Got a guy. Six foot seven fucking tight end. We have a six foot seven guy. You don't. We have a guy that should be playing basketball. You don't.
Starting point is 00:33:56 This guy can also run, take hits, block people. That's all he was doing at Oklahoma State. Goes to Virginia, so they throw him the ball. They do. That Virginia offense coordinator went up to Syracuse. Syracuse was having a great year. Virginia's offense was good last year. They fucking throw him the ball. They do. That Virginia offense coordinator went up to Syracuse. Syracuse was having a great year. Virginia's offense was good last year. They fucking throw him the ball all over the place.
Starting point is 00:34:09 This guy's a guy. He's never on the fucking field with Frank Reich's offense. They literally put him in for one play. Yeah, they're him and me. We're making eye contact right there. That is him and me literally staring each other down. You got my wife next to me. Reagan there, excited. See Carly celebrating in the back all day. Last night, she was real loud about Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Jesus Christ, Nick. Jesus Christ. Hell yeah, good game. Yeah, hell yeah, hell yeah. All the Yenzers were obnoxious in the suite last night. Sorry about it. You too. Connor is from Pittsburgh last night, if you would have been listening to our suite.
Starting point is 00:34:41 He's singing, here we are, Steelers, here we go. Connor, start that chant. PHS. Yeah, exactly. I'm a Plum alum now. What do you want from me? I'm trying to root for my hometown team, and it's not my fault. Matt Ryan was throwing balls into the dirt until there were six minutes left
Starting point is 00:34:57 in the second quarter. Anyways, Jelani Woods, not on the field in the first half. Second half, he comes in the field, has like fucking 45 receptions, almost has a touchdown, would have won me a shit ton of money. But yeah, we got a guy who's 6'7 and is a dog and has great hands. They don't. We should do more of this. What we did
Starting point is 00:35:14 in the second half, he had a drop. His first pass, like why? You see that one play right there? Any football fan, you see that one play right there? That guy's 6'7. That guy's been on the team all year. Put that fucking guy on the field. Give him the whole game.
Starting point is 00:35:30 And we got another guy, Moe Alley-Cox, also a stud. Fucking have him on the field too. They can play at the same time. Boom. Do it. And it feels like Matt Ryan really likes Jelani Woods. You know why Matt Ryan really likes him? Tell him, AQ.
Starting point is 00:35:44 Because he makes plays. Six foot fucking seven. Yeah, he's six foot seven. Hey, dude, he's six foot seven. Because he's six seven. Culture on the Cowboys offense, where they go like three tight all the time. That's a fucking Baltimore's offense. Do whatever we have to do.
Starting point is 00:35:56 We've got Jonathan Taylor. I mean, all the good ones are going multiple tight ends right now. Do it. Like, what do we even do? I don't know. But anyways, he didn't all score a touchdown. So $70,000 is not won by Pat Mack. It was in his hands.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Got to pass interference. It wasn't. He also got beat by Alex Highsmith for that play. On the third and two, yeah. He was running around right before. Please run that play again because he was just chipping. Fucking asshole. Learn football.
Starting point is 00:36:22 The next one because the, I believe. After this. No, after this. The third down. Yeah, it's the third down run. Yeah, here we go. Tight end D in. Worst matchup in football.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Oh, no. Is it one-on-one? Oh, yeah. It looks like he's swiping right. Backside block. He was tired, though. He shouldn't have had a timeout. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:36:41 So what's the protection? What should he protect? Oh, no. Oh, no. All right. So maybe he's liability. Oh, no. All right. So maybe he's liability. Oh, he's tired. He should have had the timeout.
Starting point is 00:36:49 We talked about it. Yeah. We've got another personnel. We've got a six-foot-seven guy. He's got eight catches in one half. All right. You've got him one-on-one with Ismith. All right.
Starting point is 00:36:58 All right. Let's take that off the screen. Let's never show that again. Come on. Catch his balls, though. Yeah. Flank him out. That on. Catch his balls, though. Yeah. Flank him out. That's right.
Starting point is 00:37:06 Flank him out. That guy who flies planes his entire career made a great career out of just catching balls. A.J. Hawk? No. Simple man. Jimmy Graham. Yeah, right. Jimmy Graham.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Yeah, just run the fucking and just throw the thing at the crossbar. Yeah, exactly. Go get it and then watch him dunk it on the crossbar. Boom. Nice. We'll suck you a $1,500. We the crossbar. All right, let's move on. There's some interesting stats coming out of the Hammer
Starting point is 00:37:30 podcast about gambling that we need to think about going forward because we have not hit a super boost in some time, boys. No. We're actually the reason why the Thanksgiving one
Starting point is 00:37:39 did not hit. Yeah. Well, not us. Daniel Jones. Yeah, Daniel Jones. I don't want to just blame somebody, but there's a lot of yards for Daniel Jones to run and get. And guess what he was choosing to do? Knock it him. So that's a tough Thanksgiving. That's our fault.
Starting point is 00:37:52 But that has been the Superboost curse. We'd like to apologize to everybody that was part of the FanDuel family Superboost for us letting it all down. We'd like to say those days are behind us. You know why? Because we've got some stats now that we're learning from the Hammer podcast. Tony Diggs, why don't you point got some stats now that we're learning from the Hammer podcast. Tony Diggs, why don't you point out some trends happening around the NFL this season? Okay. We talk about sportsbooks, and we talk about how they make money. Okay?
Starting point is 00:38:13 A lot of them. What do people love betting on? Favorites and overs. Okay? Hell yeah. That's right. Take a look at that fucking tweet. Favorites, 76-104 this year against the spread.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Favorites straight up though, 111-68-1. So you're right for liking the favorite. The favorite is a favorite for a reason. They are winning the game straight up, but against the spread, they are not tone digs. Is that what you're saying? Exactly. We got puppies
Starting point is 00:38:40 covering at a great rate this season. Oh, and then everyone, let's take the over. Let's take the over. Tony Unders, you're a douche. You stink. For those that are wondering, Tyone bets the Unders.
Starting point is 00:38:51 There is very natural thought to hate people that bet on the Under. They're the people at the craps table betting the no pass line. They're betting with the house. Because everybody likes overs because everybody likes seeing good football. Like seeing highlights. Like getting excited.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Like enjoying their life. Just like at the craps table. Everybody likes getting excited. Getting pumped up. We're doing this together. It's a team. This is fun. Then the unders community comes in and they're like give us bad football. We want red zone turnovers. We want turnovers on dons.
Starting point is 00:39:23 We want a lot of interceptions. Not pick sixes. We want interceptions, though. That's what the unders are. So a lot of people who bet on the unders are considered boring as fuck. And we don't put them in our super boosts because they can be ended quickly. Doesn't seem like that's the case, though. Unders have been in play the whole season, huh?
Starting point is 00:39:41 Yeah, primetime unders started the season real hot. They've come back a little bit. And then, I mean, you want to talk about unders? Okay, like bad offense, good defense. There's no team in the history of football that's ever had a worse offense with a better defense than the two 2022 Denver Broncos, who are actually 10-1 to the under.
Starting point is 00:40:06 Also, the Colts. There was a star. There was a tweet underneath it, star. A thread? Yeah, 10-1. Who put this tweet? Are you? No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Oh, so you didn't do it. Who was it? I don't know. I ain't no fucking rat. Was it one of the Hammerdown boys? Was it? No, we hire an outside firm. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Smart. This is good. Colts also 9-3 to the under. Of course. Terrible offense. Good defense. Good defense. And then, obviously, you look at the best ATS teams, Giants, Titans, Bengals.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Giants make sense because they were supposed to be poop, and they've been doing good. Bengals and Titans, they're just good football teams. Also, Titans don't get a lot of love from Vegas. Neither do Bengals really either. Yeah, well I think the Titans don't get a lot of love because they're a tough football and once again, what we bank on now, which I guess we didn't
Starting point is 00:40:56 during the last Super Bowl, did we? Oh, the Broncos and Russ stink. Broncos and Russ stink. Yeah, you said against the spread. Because the hype about Russell stink. Yeah, you said against the spread. Yeah, because the hype about Russell, real. Yeah. So the thought, the notion going into the season about what the Broncos are supposed to be and what the offense could be still weighs, it appears, in some of the lines here.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Broncos against the spread, 3-8, not good at all. Broncos under, very, very good. I think the Titans, what we talk about is like Vrabel's able to figure it out, like Belichick. I don't think sportsbooks can put a number on like, oh, Vrabel will be able to figure it out. So we might be able to take advantage of them when it comes to the Tennessee Titans.
Starting point is 00:41:37 A.Q. Shipley, how do you feel about these stats as a man who's slowly getting into the sports gambling game, much like myself since we retired? There's so many little niche things that we can really dive into, but we need to start fucking winning, AQ. I agree. What are you getting from these stats, and what should we think about for our next super boost?
Starting point is 00:41:54 Well, I think we need to bet the under. I think that's what I'm getting from this. Bet against the Broncos. Because I bet the overall diamond. My fucking account keeps going down. I don't get it. Betting the over, numbers going down. Yeah. Numbers under. Bet me over. Yeah. Numbers going down. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:06 Numbers under. It's a cycle. Now, I mean, we will put this. An under on a super boost, though. It's so tough. It's dangerous. It's a dangerous game. You could say that you just like defense, right?
Starting point is 00:42:16 Yeah, yeah, you can. But what I'm saying is any under can get beat. An over you can always catch until, like, the final two minutes or whatever so like a super boost that gets promoted i don't know there's like a hundred thousand some people doing some of these boosts that's a lot of fucking bets so if we pick something and it's over at halftime not even halftime yeah first fucking quarter like if we go somebody's under in yards which feels like a good bet but one play could potentially just fucking ruin it. Mistackle, 70-yard touchdown.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Boom, it's over. So, like, piecing together the super boost, it's been a mind fuck, to be honest. It's been something. We need to just put a winner out there. The worst is when. We need to not worry about something being kicked off in the first quarter or ending too early. We just need to fucking go with our gut.
Starting point is 00:43:02 We need to pick a winner. Let's just do a winner, T winner. Let's just do a winner tone. Let's just do that. And the worst thing, like, sometimes you'll take an under and you'll be on the right side of the under, but two defensive touchdowns fucking... Or annexation of Puerto Rico. Sure, right. You have touchdown on the last
Starting point is 00:43:18 play of the game. Now, here's my worry with the Broncos that have been on a lot of their unders. At some point, I still think, and you guys have been in locker rooms, I think this defense is going to say, fuck you. And quit? I don't know if they're going to quit, but maybe just not. Not give as much effort? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:31 I saw with the Bears and Mitch a few years ago where the Bears defense was so goddamn good. And then they clearly just said, fuck this. I mean, it also kind of happened with the Broncos a little bit on Sunday against Carolina. It's like typically you'd think that they would blow them out or not necessarily blow them out, but Carolina kind of ran all over them.
Starting point is 00:43:49 What do you think about Purcell saying, hey, we didn't score points to Russell Wilson? What do you think was said? Enough with your fucking bullshit. You suck. I don't think he said that. That would be very aggressive. I think this dude is probably a leader on the team. He's a good player. He's a heck of a nose guard.
Starting point is 00:44:05 I think he's probably a leader. I think he's one of the vocal guys. I think, I would assume. Just the way he did that would lead me to believe that probably behind the... I don't know if he has a C. I have no idea. I'd assume in the locker room. Guys listen to him. Pretty well. I would assume. Especially at a nose tackle
Starting point is 00:44:22 position, big dudes start speaking. You know, there's normally either incredibly entertaining. So that defensive line room, either incredibly entertaining, like some of the funniest fucking humans on earth are in defensive lines rooms. If you ever get a chance to tour any football building, whenever the football players are in there, stop by the D-line room and just kind of eavesdrop from the back, it is going to be electrifying.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Every single, every building I've ever heard of has been, I don't know if it continued with every building you've ever been. Oh, yeah. But every building I've ever been in, D-line room, most entertaining room. But if there's a D-line man that's speaking, either hilarious, or if one of those big dudes starts speaking with a little, you know, a little bass in the voice, the voice everybody is like all right let's go ahead and fucking listen to this so i think he's probably a leader so he's not going to say you suck i do think there's a chance he's enough for the fucking bullshit or some fucking point i wouldn't i wonder if there is a i wonder if
Starting point is 00:45:18 there's anybody that'll be like enough with all this fucking russell wilson the movie stuff like dude we need to win some games this movie sucks right now if you can maybe do it. I wonder who would say that. And if he's the only one that will say it or has the ability to say it because of his position in the team, I think this could be a good thing long term. But nonetheless, this Russell Wilson experience in Denver has been a clusterfuck. I agree. I mean, leading and following is such an interesting thing, right?
Starting point is 00:45:43 Like you got your leaders. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hey, it's about to be a deep one and following is such an interesting thing, right? Like, you got your leaders. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hey, it's about to be a deep one. And then you got your guys, right? You got your guys that are sitting there like, oh, what are they saying? What are they saying? And if he's over on the sidelines and they're putting up six points and whatever, 110 yards a game, it's like, hold on.
Starting point is 00:45:58 I can only listen to this guy. Be like, all right, guys, next fucking drive. Let's go. Here we go. Like, I can only listen to this so many times before I lose my mind. Yeah, because you're an adult, a successful one. Yeah. You're in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Your defense you're on, very good defense. So amongst the best, you're some of the best. And then on the other side, brand-new guy getting paid more than all of you. Mm-hmm. Combined. A lot. All of you, brand-new guy getting paid more than all of you. Who's the representation of the team,
Starting point is 00:46:25 which is probably nothing like what you are, nothing at all what you are like. You could see how somebody would have to take it upon themselves and be like, enough of that, just in any business, let alone football, which is a lot of emotions. I don't want to say people are stubborn, but a lot of stubborn people, a lot of attitudes, a lot of egos, a lot of everything. So the NFL locker room is certainly an interesting dynamic.
Starting point is 00:46:48 But anywhere, if you are, you know, the backbone of something at the current moment and you have a completely different personality than what is being portrayed as your face, who is not doing well at all. Historically, one of the worst of all time doing that that but he's your face and he's a representative you could see how there would be a little bit of angst at some point it's surprising it's got to this point yes like week 12 is the first time they've heard somebody say something to him because we've been talking about yeah and this is completion percentage leaders from Ari Mirov at my sports updated pro football focus Russell Wilson's at 58.9 percent which is something he was really good at, right? He had great accuracy, was able to complete the ball, able to move. He's also a top-five rusher as a quarterback of all time.
Starting point is 00:47:34 None of it makes sense on why he's terrible, but now it has called for us to analyze everything, and I honestly believe Team 3 is the problem. I can't get back to that enough. Them making him believe that he's a movie character as opposed to a human, I think is a part of the problem over there. I was going to say that and I'm glad you brought that up because we've obviously heard what Sherm and Marshawn said, right? You're not even getting a phone call with this guy, right? So there's no fucking way he's hosting a dinner on a Thursday night. There's no way Saturday before games he's having, you know, the O-line and dinner with him, whatever it is, right?
Starting point is 00:48:07 So when you get that and then we spend all this money to bring you in and you're not performing and you're saying all the fucking cliche things that you say every week, all the bullshit, exactly, it's like, hold on, bud. What the fuck are we doing? How about – I heard him mic'd up a couple years ago. We talked about this. Yeah, the Dange Witch was tough. The Dange Witch.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Had a good run. But they were probably protected, Russ, in that locker room, I assume, right? Just like in the Seattle one? Yeah. He was protected? Have to be. Where'd you get, can you put that photo back up? Casey Anthony's name's down here?
Starting point is 00:48:40 Where is this? Where, what do you say? Who has Twitter? She has a new Netflix special that just came out. So what is this? This is just, oh, this is on Twitter? Screenshot. are you saying? Who's Twitter? She has a new Netflix special that just came out. So what is this? Oh, this is on Twitter? What's happening? Oh, Casey Anthony's trending. Alright, I see it in the back there.
Starting point is 00:48:52 Well, Smith also trending? Yeah, he was on a podcast. He was also in a... He's doing... He was in the middle of some rainforest the other day on the internet. He says he understands and accepts that if you don't accept him back yet, if it's too soon for him to come back to work yet, he understands. He's got a new movie coming out.
Starting point is 00:49:13 Emancipation. Yeah, he understands that people don't want to see it. Not ready to see him back at the box office yet. Looks great, though. I'm ready. Artist from art. Fucking let's go, Will. And he was on Matt Barnes and the other podcast.
Starting point is 00:49:26 It's a good show. It's one of the many skills I think people should be able to adopt. Yeah, up in smoke. With Stack, what skills do you have? Yes, there it is. Separating the artist from the art. I think they're a good show. That was Showtime, right?
Starting point is 00:49:37 I think so. I think there was Showtime. Showtime was doing something there in sports, right? Weren't they there for a bit? Because remember they had boxing, then Up and Smoke was going. They used to have Inside the NFL before Paramount got it. Which everybody's seeing on Paramount+. Everybody watching.
Starting point is 00:49:53 Kidding me? What happened? Has anybody seen that show? Did Showtime have first right refusal for that show or did they not? I don't know. I thought it was a good – I used to watch that show all the time. Yeah, it used to be awesome. I don't think I've seen any. I can – I used to watch that show all the time. Yeah, it used to be awesome. I don't think I've seen any –
Starting point is 00:50:06 I can't find it. I think that's the problem. There's a lot of stuff on Paramount. I don't think it's getting top billing. Is Showtime going in? Is Showtime going to get into the NFL sweepstakes here coming up? I doubt it because – well, and HBO has already got that relationship with the NFL. So is Showtime though, right?
Starting point is 00:50:25 Not anymore, though. Oh, they lost it, you're saying. Yeah, I think. Because it's not showtime. Yeah, inside the NFL. Who did Rappaport say he has a podcast with? The Fast Network? He made that up.
Starting point is 00:50:35 What is that? That's not real. Because it's spelled with a P-H, I think. Actually? Really? Like Fat Farm? P-H-A-S-T. Z.
Starting point is 00:50:43 P-H-A-Z-T. Fast. P-H-A-Z-T. Fast. Fast Network. What was that? I have no idea. Yeah, I thought he was lying. I actually thought that it was just on YouTube and he was trying to promote. Is that a network that they created?
Starting point is 00:50:55 Like, is this Ian Rappaport creating a network? That is. And then saying, this is like when AQ calls restaurants as his agent. Right. Well, the good news is when he was. So his fast with a PH and a Z network, a network that Rappaport created and had like his wife, who we know is much smarter. Yeah. Better call the NFL network and go, oh, we're from the fast network.
Starting point is 00:51:18 We were wondering. That would actually make sense. Because the good news is when you Google fast network, the first 1,800 results are for Fast Internet any time you're trying to get fucking Fast Internet. He said yesterday I thought he was fucking with us, and I didn't want to press too hard because I don't want to be disrespectful, but who is going to be all involved in the NFL sweepstakes? I think there's probably companies right now that are rounding up cash who are only going to be created as a network to stream an NFL game
Starting point is 00:51:47 after they're seeing what Amazon was able to accomplish. Like we all assume that, what is it, Fangs, Facebook, Amazon, Apple, Netflix, Google, and then the S1 is something. Starlink. That's just Elon. You should put him in there, too. Just Elon. So maybe it's Fang. Fang.
Starting point is 00:52:09 It's just Fang. Okay, we should add an E on there. Just Elon. Whatever Elon gets in. Everybody's going to want to get into the NFL. But if you recall, I think Fox, and I watched this with the Madden thing, they literally decided to build their network on getting NFL rights. I assume that'll happen again with somebody.
Starting point is 00:52:27 The NFL is sitting in such a pretty place. Such a beautiful place. They're going to make so much fucking money for all the streaming that's going to get involved. Good for them. We got out at the right time. Right before all the money got in there. Smart move by us. I honestly believe the NFL is the only thing that can really build a network.
Starting point is 00:52:43 I'm happy I got out, though. Oh, yeah. Keep telling me. The locker room. The locker room. CBS on Showtime, I guess. Aren't they a part of Paramount? Yes.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Yeah, it's the same network. Yeah, Paramount, CBS. So I wonder why they moved it to Paramount Plus and it's not on Showtime anymore. If that even matters. Apple's getting it. Apple's getting it, right? Apple's getting what? NFL tickets.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Yeah, who can outbid Apple? Amazon. Okay, so. They're already in it. Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Netflix, Google. They could all, I think. I think Apple could technically outbid everybody if they wanted to just go all in. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:18 But I think they, so many people have so much, and by so many people, I mean like, there's like 50 companies now that just have so much money. And by so many people, I mean like there's like 50 companies now that just have so much money. We hear about the big ones that have famous CEOs or people that are out in public or we use. But there's so much money out there right now. And even like, what is it? Microsoft's like third person in command is like still a top ten richest person. Let alone like at Netflix and Google and all these other places. All these people could fucking get in there.
Starting point is 00:53:48 What if the Saudis fucking won it? They could get in too, huh? Good luck. I saw some post. It might have been Boardroom, which is Kevin Durant's company. It might have been them. I forget. It was a business one. But they talked about the real richest people on Earth. And it's like the Saudi 1.7 trillion or
Starting point is 00:54:04 something like that. The Saudi royal family? 1.7 trillion dollars? The top family. You fucking try sports watching the NFL, though. Good luck. I don't want it. Goddamn right. Well said, Tony.
Starting point is 00:54:18 Hey, Tiger Woods said, you want PGA and a live to get along? Sweet. Get Greg Norman's fucking ass out of there. Not in those exact words. You want PGA and a live to get along? Sweet. Get Greg Norman's fucking ass out of there. Yeah. Not in those exact words. Pretty much. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:28 That's pretty much what he said. First things first. Is it MANG now, though? And is Meta even involved? Because didn't they fucking lose all their money? They fired a shitload of people. Yeah. And they're going all in on the virtual reality.
Starting point is 00:54:43 And I believe it's working, right? What, Meta? Yeah. Words for me, they're going all in on the virtual reality, and I believe it's working, right? What, meta? Yeah. Words for me there for a bit. I haven't been in the Oculus Arena in some time. All right, let's get to a break. Hour 2 will be on the other side. We'll have Aaron Rodgers joining us in five minutes.
Starting point is 00:54:55 Hell yeah. Okay, we moved it up because there is an international battle going on with Iran in the World Cup. USA-Iran, 2 p.m eastern time on fox um like you're saying right good pronunciation thank you i'm fucking cultured dude yeah yeah people were saying i thought it was iran see that's the problem let's say i ran to the internet yeah and checked you're wrong it's iran iran okay so let's fucking nip that in the butt right fucking right here first and foremost that's right thank youan okay so let's fucking nip that in the butt right fucking right here first and foremost that's right thank you toad okay let's do that um so wow iran
Starting point is 00:55:32 has allegedly told the iranian soccer players families yes that you tell them boys to fucking act right when they're on that screen yeah Yeah. Or else. Win or die. Fall in line. So I don't know if we're going to get an as spirited Iranian squad. Or. Good. What? You think they're going to play harder for a team?
Starting point is 00:55:55 A country that is threatening their family? Win or die. Is this like a revenge game? Win or die. Hey. I don't think it was about them winning. I think it was about like, we don't need. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:04 No, like no protesting or doing any of that kind of stuff. But also. Which by the way is terrible. I don't think it was about them winning. I think it was about like, we don't need any... No protesting or doing any of that kind of stuff, but also... Which, by the way, is terrible. Okay? Yeah. People need to know that's happening, though, in the current world that we're in. Remember, there was a war happening where the neighbor country just said, this is our country now.
Starting point is 00:56:18 Okay? Still happening. Yeah. In 2022. We all want the world to be a perfect place. Believe me. We are there. We hope to get there sometime.
Starting point is 00:56:26 But we need to understand that in reality, this type of shit is actually still happening. So we have to remember that. As we try to get to this destination where our entire world is good people in great places, and great thoughts, and great morals, and everything's forward thinking, and everything, how we all want it to be. We have to deal with the reality that in 2022. Okay. Even though we've taken mighty steps, I think as evolving as a human race.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Yeah. Sure. Yeah. This shit's still happening. Oh yeah. Soccer team in the world cup. Keep your fucking mouth shut or something else will happen. Still happening in 2022.
Starting point is 00:57:01 Neighbor country rolls into other country. Still happening in 2022. We have to into other country. Still happening in 2022. We have to remember that. Yeah. With that being said, hey, boys, don't feel bad. Okay? No. That is not for us to worry about.
Starting point is 00:57:13 Christian, you score four to five goals on these boys. Remind them who we are. Okay. We have to advance. We hope everything's safe with their family and in the country and everything like that, okay? I assume it's not. I don't know enough about the world to really dive into that. But we wish nothing but health and well wishes for the Iranian soccer team and their families.
Starting point is 00:57:37 With that being said, we need to win 7-8-0. Yeah, that's right. We've got another thing coming, Iran. Leave no doubt. Joining us now, a man who is the back-to-back NFL MVP. This past weekend saw him leave the game against the Philadelphia Eagles with an apparent injury, potential lung issues, playing with a broken thumb since week five,
Starting point is 00:57:59 which we did not know about. Bad friends, bad show. Ladies and gentlemen, quarterback for the Green Bay Packers, Aaron Rodgers. Yeah! How are you, bud? Hello. We meet again. Yeah, we do.
Starting point is 00:58:12 It's great to see you. I should have investigated a little bit more on that thumb. You didn't want anybody to know you had a fractured thumb? Did you know you had a fractured thumb week five? And how has that whole thing gone? Is it hurt like hell every single day, and you've just been toughing it out on these shows a lot of grit pat a lot of grit hell yeah hell yeah pittsburgh yeah that's pretty great uh you know it wouldn't change anything it wouldn't change the you know plan i feel like uh i don't need uh you know built-in excuse every single
Starting point is 00:58:43 week i have thumb injury. I've dealt with it. I miss practice. I tape it for the games. That seemed to suffice for me. Now, after we got, you know, make-a-wish kids scooped the story, and then there's some other report, you know, leaked by who knows who about the type of fracture it is and ideas about surgery and blah, blah, blah. Interesting times we live in.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Oh, I thought I heard a little. I thought I heard a little. Do you agree with all of it? Do you agree with everything that was leaked? Like, why? Do you have issues with what was leaked? And how did it come about with the Make-A-Wish kid? Yeah, he's an aspiring podcaster, I believe.
Starting point is 00:59:28 Packers B. Big B. Big B. Sorry, Packers P. Sorry, bud. B. Packers B. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:34 So I had it right the first time. Yeah, Big B. All right. Legend. Anyway, sorry. That's all me. No, he was a great kid. He was asking a lot of questions.
Starting point is 00:59:43 We had a nice little lunchtime chat. And then he got released. Yeah, well, I'm happy he broke that. It seemingly sounds like you're not thrilled about the actual fracture getting out because that means that had to come from somebody that had the actual information. And then he said interesting times, which is like, why would you put that out there? We don't need that out there. But let's move on.
Starting point is 01:00:06 Let's get away from the thumb, you know, because that thing's been, that's old news. That's right. Seven weeks that thing's been broke. Ever since London town, never chatted about it. You know, and we talked about this whenever the news broke. A lot of people talk about you being an ayahuasca
Starting point is 01:00:20 and hippie and this and that and every standoff or whatever the case. You're old school dude you are you're fucking old school player i think you take a lot of pride in that so i would like to let you know we appreciate you not wanting the world to know that a quarterback who throws with his right hand has a broken thumb on his right hand when there was a lot of moments where you were getting fucking buried for being washed where it could have easily came out and many other people will.
Starting point is 01:00:45 So I want you to know we acknowledge you. We acknowledge you for doing that. All right? Hope you're happy about that, at least. We're acknowledging it. Know that others are as well. Well, thank you. All right, guys.
Starting point is 01:00:57 All right. Let's talk about your toughness. Let's talk about your toughness. What happened, man? Are you okay? Was it on that one hit where three people hit you? Did it happen earlier? What happened to your yeah there was an earlier shot in the game that kind of uh rattled the rib cage and uh i was trying to stretch some things out at halftime a little bit
Starting point is 01:01:17 and realize it probably wasn't some sort of muscle uh injury uh and then just got hit again in third quarter i was having a hard time breathing. I mean, I pride myself on not coming out of games. And I've played through a lot of different things over the years that some that got, you know, got attention, some that haven't got attention. But I was in considerable pain and I felt like I just couldn't move out there really much at all. And I wanted to go in and just make sure it wasn't something really, really serious.
Starting point is 01:01:49 I, you know, have heard some stories. And seeing Randall Cobb punctured a lung back in, like, 2015 playoffs, I think it was. And that was pretty scary. And, you know, I've heard some other stories as well. So I just wanted to make sure that wasn't the case and you know tried to get some x-rays uh as well which i mean i'll talk about that maybe last you know after the season's over um but that was that was an interesting process as well and then just couldn't uh you know couldn't do anything about the pain to get back out there. I will resist the urge to try to guess what happened with the x-rays for the good of everybody.
Starting point is 01:02:32 I assume other people will do that, but we will move on. So did it feel like a fractured rib? Is that what you're saying? It felt like you fractured a rib or something like that? And that was what led you to believe the baby would be a punctured lung? And how many quarters were you playing with that from that initial hit? And is this something that's going to be able to be healable? You know, because you've got Chicago Bears,
Starting point is 01:02:52 who you were the landlord of this weekend, and everybody's talking, like, on the Sunday Night Football broadcast, it sounded as if we might never see you play football again, like ever again. And then obviously there's been reports about, should LaFleur hold Aaron Rodgers out for the the good of Aaron Rogers whenever they're eliminating everything like that. Where do you stand with all that? And how does that feel right now? Do you feel like that's going to be something that's going to hold you back? Well, we're not eliminated. I got good news with the scans yesterday. So I plan on playing
Starting point is 01:03:19 this week. Hell yeah. You're still playing in the NFL? You're still playing? I know. It's hard to believe, isn't it? Wow. Hey, okay. Aaron Rodgers playing this weekend.
Starting point is 01:03:31 Yes. Hey, that's great news, especially to a guy that's about to ask you a question. Ty Schmidt, owner of the Packers. Your question for Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, Aaron, is it hard? I mean, I know you're still in it. You guys obviously aren't eliminated. Is it hard not thinking about the future?
Starting point is 01:03:46 And, like, we've talked about it, you know. I mean, with you, people are going to say shit no matter what. But, like, do you get taken aback, like, if you see some of that stuff on Monday morning after the game, you know, whether it's pro football talk saying, hey, not only will we probably never see him in a Packers uniform again, but that might have been the last snaps he's ever taken. Like, do you pay any mind to that? Have you started thinking about it after the season, or is it still like, hey, we're not eliminated yet.
Starting point is 01:04:11 We still have everything in front of us. I'd say yes to both. Obviously, I think about the future all the time, a la Michael J. Fox in Back to the Future. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. And also, you know, we're not eliminated. We got a chance to run the last five and see where we stand after that.
Starting point is 01:04:35 So that's the focus for me. You know, I might miss practice Wednesday. I might not be a full contributor, but that's kind of been standard for the last, I don't know, six, seven weeks. Go to one of my favorite places to play down in Chicago and hopefully get a big win, get into the bye week, get healthy, and see where we can get to. That was Zito talking shit to you while you were talking about that. He's holding on a lot of hope, and he popped himself mightily there. That's a big-time laugh from him.
Starting point is 01:05:07 Excited to hear you're back this week and excited where your mindset is. Go ahead, AJ. Aaron, I was on John Kuhn's show earlier today. He wanted me to ask you. Kuhn! Great show he's doing over there as well. But he wanted to know, if you were 8-4 right now heading into this game, would you shut it down for a couple weeks to rest up for the playoff run,
Starting point is 01:05:28 if things were different? Coon, not just a Rockhead. Very good question. That's unbelievable. Is it, though? Is that a real question, John Coon? Yes, it is. You think that was disrespectful?
Starting point is 01:05:42 You think that was disrespectful to ask that question? Listen, we were 8-4, 4-8, 12-0, 0-12. I'd be wanting to suit up this week. And not just because of Chicago. Because that's what you do. When you're a player, you go out there, and if you can play, you play. You don't need some doctor to give you an excuse. Oh, man, maybe one more week.
Starting point is 01:06:06 You know, not quite 100%. No. You can go out there and compete, and you have competitive greatness in your body, in your heart, in your mind. You go out and play. Hell yeah, dude. Hey, felt like I was in a fucking movie right there, dude. That was like, is that your mindset always has been? Hey, is that an issue, though?
Starting point is 01:06:25 For real, though, Pat, it's an issue I have. Aaron, is that a thing? Is that something, like, as you've been in the league for so long, has that changed from where guys would play through pretty much anything at times? And then is there more people now who just, I think, people surround players and tell them to shut it down? Does that happen more often where, hey, if I'm not 100, there's no chance I'm playing?
Starting point is 01:06:43 AJ, you said when he said look for an excuse there, right right because i kind of that my antennas went up there as well is that something you're seeing just not maybe on your team but around the nfl that's a good question aj well i could i would assume it's it's probably uh more prevalent now uh than maybe it used to be i think that there's then understandably guess, there's fear around what does it mean if I'm not 100% and I don't play my absolute best going out there? Does that mean can I live with that reality? And I think many people can't. For me, I can because I know what competitive greatness is. It's going out there and trying to do your best all the time and putting your body on the line and putting your body on the line for your teammates and knowing that if you're 90%, 80%, 70%
Starting point is 01:07:35 gives your team the best chance to win, then you're out there and you're playing. And also being able to look in the mirror. I mean, that's honestly the only person you have to really appease and whose opinion you've got to live up to is that person staring right back at you. So that's why I've always wanted to play, and that's why I've never wanted to come out of games because I want to look in the mirror and know that I did everything I could
Starting point is 01:07:59 to be out there with my guys. I put my body on the line willingly, and that that's the nature of being a fierce competitor and striving for competitive greatness is that it's not really a question. I don't need somebody to tell me, man, maybe another week you'll be 100%. Maybe just wait one more week. No, no, no. That's just never how I've played. Now, I probably got some help playing behind a guy who played in 300-plus straight starts, you know, because it was never even a question for him.
Starting point is 01:08:29 But you can't say that there's the same approach now than it was maybe back then. Sticky finger bandits who you're talking about. And I understand listening to you talk. What's that? Sorry, I had to. Come on. I don't know what it was right there. Come on.
Starting point is 01:08:49 It's all in season. It was right there. I mean, I had to do it. It's reality, too. I mean, I'm sorry about it. It is. But whenever you talk about the competitive greatness, and I appreciate your mindset on it because that's like old school.
Starting point is 01:09:01 You're an old school football player. It never gets talked about. Everything else gets talked about about you because you are Aaron. You have the most face shots. They actually had to zoom in on your ass on Sunday Night Football because they were trying to get your thumb and it just so happened when you put your hand down, your thumb real
Starting point is 01:09:16 close to your ass. They were zoomed on your ass for maybe 35 seconds on Sunday Night Football. Your face gets a I think that's what the kids call the thirst trap. Oh, yeah. You put that thing out there. You knew that they were zooming in on that. You put the booty in the way. Go ahead and check out the squats
Starting point is 01:09:32 on the fucking bar. But you get a lot of face time. Nobody talks about you being like old school guy though. And it seems like you are, even though I believe you could have been a hit. Or the fact that I'm the COVID MVP. Wow. Thank you, Aaron. if you could have been a hit. Or the fact that I'm the COVID MVP. Well, all right.
Starting point is 01:09:46 Well, yeah. Thank you, Aaron. 2020. Thank you, Aaron. I got MVP the two years of the pandemic. That's mine. God save us. I'll tell you what. Because you weren't afraid of it.
Starting point is 01:09:54 All right. All right. I mean, obviously, Cowboy Diggs. He rides again. Cowboy Tone is getting real excited about it all. And you had certainly had people that had your back on that whole thing. And I saw him in there. You winning the MVP in the middle of that season with everything that was going on
Starting point is 01:10:13 is maybe the one modern miracle of the modern media that I could have never foreseen coming. We thought you had no fucking shot. I think we've talked about that. Because remember, the one uh voter uh yeah born hubbard kush he came out and said it openly like hey this is what this fuck i'm like this fucking guy i mean he's killing me yeah he's good he's an asshole he's killing him are we doing that can't vote for him it was like that was kind of a glimpse we thought into everybody but since he did that and everybody was like that's how you're going to judge who the mvp is
Starting point is 01:10:45 it was almost like you say it almost put everybody else in kind of a little bit of a pretzel who was maybe thinking the same thing and uh i hope we talk about that going forward because that was a modern miracle i honestly but yeah back to back too i know unbelievable back to back i mean is that a bigger miracle than surviving the winter of death or all right what do you think see here we go now we're getting right back into it uh but listening to you talk about the competitive greatness and showing up for your teammates with broken thumb and all that and we asked you last week about thinking ahead because everybody's calling for it now that you're having a different season than you had had in the last like five years
Starting point is 01:11:24 everybody's talking about oh he's gonna retire going to retire, he's going to disappear, he's going to do all that. And you have chatted pretty openly about thinking about the future and everything. When I asked you, I think it was last year or two years ago, I said, what do you love about football? You cut this promo about competing and, like, everything about it. And it was one of the best, best like speeches about competition and your mindset towards competing from somebody who's an elite athlete and we appreciate that we still run the fucking commercial to this day and then last week we asked you about the future and you said it's going to be difficult to get away from the nfl and you say you think about the future all the time
Starting point is 01:11:58 have you figured out how you're going to satiate your fucking competitive juices going forward as an adult have Have you thought about that? You've got to FaceTime for something. I have, yeah. How are you going to do it? Are you going to become a professional golfer? Is that what you're planning on doing? Are you, like, I think you're going to be.
Starting point is 01:12:15 You know what, I've got to say this. How many times do I have to say this for my golf friends? It's not going to happen, bro. These golfers are on a whole different level. They're so fucking good at every single tour. You can't just pick up, you know, and go out there and expect to compete. You know, John Smoltz has played in a few exemptions on a Champions Tour, and I don't think he's finished in the top 40 or so. And he also made the U.S. Senior Open as well as a qualifier,
Starting point is 01:12:39 which is pretty amazing. I mean, but didn't, you know, I mean, but didn't break par or shoot around par. That's a champion's tour where there isn't a cut, except for in the majors. Don't worry about that. But you're talking about like Romo hasn't sniffed a cut. Steph didn't sniff a cut as well on the Corn Fairy. These guys are elite-level athletes. So, no, I'm not going to join golf.
Starting point is 01:13:06 I do enjoy, you know, some other hobbies that I haven't been able, you know, to experience for a long time. And I'm probably getting into some of those things. But as far as competitive stuff, I don't know, going down to the park and playing a little pickup basketball and, you know, dunking on some people, that sounds pretty good. Lower rim. Yeah, but we're at nine feet right over here right now.
Starting point is 01:13:28 It makes you feel real good about yourself. We put it down for a little fill yesterday. This hoop's at nine feet. Feels like you. I feel like A.J. Hawk, 40-inch vertical flying around all over the place. But everybody's just so quick to say that you're going to retire, you're going to retire. And I think you have thought about it in the past as well. People that are as good as you are at the position that you're at, don't have it easy. It's
Starting point is 01:13:49 not an easy thing just to kind of move on from. And that kind of just gets thrown away in this whole thing about how fucking competitive of a human you are, which is why you've been so good. So everybody that's just so quick to be like, this guy's fucking out of here, not playing back. I think that's just like a misread of a situation personally. I think you're going to, I think you're going to figure it out. I think you are going to golf a lot more. I think that's just like a misread of a situation. Personally, I think you're going to figure it out. I think you are going to golf a lot more. I think you're going to get real good. Real good at the golf and then you're going to start flirting with it. And then you're going to get in the champion store and you're going to get top
Starting point is 01:14:13 50 just like me and we're going to get $20 million from A.J. Hawk. I had forgotten about that. Let's go to the Eagles game a little bit here. Blankenship, were you impressed by that? Did you think he was gone? Did you think he was bailing? That undrafted rookie that got a pick from fucking Aaron Rodgers in his first game,
Starting point is 01:14:32 he's going to talk about that for the rest of his life, getting a pick on primetime. That's how it goes. Darius Slay said, I need a Mount Rushmore ball. I got one from Tom. I got one from Peyton. I need one from Aaron. You don't throw a lot of interceptions, so this is big deal this look did he trick you did this guy trick you did is that what happened aaron and are you okay to say that or no no he didn't trick me the guy ran
Starting point is 01:14:56 the route and i threw i shouldn't throw him the ball that's what happened i didn't should have been down the seam i shouldn't even off it when he, when he was crossing over there, I was like, yeah, maybe I can, if he cuts in front of the guy, I can fit it in there. I shouldn't even throw the ball to him.
Starting point is 01:15:11 Should have just air-meld it to the, you know, guy on the horse standing on the sidelines over there. Horse John. Good player or no? You think Blankenship's a good player? Kids got a chance
Starting point is 01:15:20 after watching him play in his first action or no? He was getting love. A lot of it. He was getting love, love. I mean, he caught a chance after watching him play in his first action or no? He was getting love. A lot of it. He was getting love, love. I mean, he caught a ball right to him. Good play. All right, all right, love it.
Starting point is 01:15:34 Love it, absolutely love it. I don't have a negative opinion about the kid, but, you know, let's hold our horses. We left crowned real quick. I couldn't tell you if he had a good game or a bad game, but he made a pick, so it's probably a good game. All right, let's talk about some of your teammates who had good games. Christian Watson continues to build.
Starting point is 01:15:56 CJ GJ actually tackled him full speed, which I have a lot of respect for CJ GJ doing that, because Christian Watson, in your words, not a lot of them run around on any field anywhere. Big dude, presence, has really come into his own. What do you think about him and his growth over the last few weeks going forward here? I think it's an incredible case study on how one play can change the course trajectory of a person's life. I mean, we know in general one decision decision positive and negative in our in our lives
Starting point is 01:16:26 can change uh the course for all of us one like piece of advice one uh chance encounter one random meet up with someone you know that can that can do it but it it's rare in this game that kind of one play changes everything for a guy. People are like, well, there had to be something at practice or this or that. I said, no, not really. I mean, I watch the kid every single day. He went from struggling for consistency to, you know, I said the other day, he's dropped like one pass in the last three weeks.
Starting point is 01:17:03 But everything he's catching now and uh we've seen his speed and we finally got to hit him j-lo threw a nice pass to him on that concept burst one high and we've seen kind of those type of clips like a couple of them over the years where where when we install the offense that was you know the julio jones catching that ball and and the backside guy running that post kind of hold the safety. And you've got a guy with speed. That guy can turn a 10-yard completion
Starting point is 01:17:30 into a 60-yard touchdown. That's exactly what he did. But yeah, I mean, he's six touchdowns in three weeks. That's pretty impressive for anybody. And for a rookie who had none coming in after nine weeks, it's pretty cool for him. Man, week one he had that one,, you know, after nine weeks. Pretty cool for him. Man, week one he had that one, right?
Starting point is 01:17:48 Oh, yeah. Now you've got to go through that. Probably got to go through that to get the chip on his shoulder, but damn, that could have happened. Maybe different. Hey, hold. Oh, yeah. Go ahead, AJ.
Starting point is 01:17:58 That's fucking crazy that that happened. I'm happy he's showing up, though. He's a dude. Oh. Hey, he's fucking one of these guys, huh? Aaron? Yeah, he's showing up, though. He's a dude. Oh, hey, he's fucking one of these guys, huh, Aaron? Yeah, he's well put together. Just like me and you.
Starting point is 01:18:11 Pretty fast. Just like me and you, Aaron. Go ahead, AJ. Yeah, he's quick. Yeah, can't wait to watch you guys on the senior tour. But, Aaron, have you seen, can you remember in your time, have you ever seen anyone else, like, have such a big impact from one play or possibly one game have you ever like been a part of a team or seen anyone do this i don't know i mean i've seen
Starting point is 01:18:31 people kind of come out of nowhere i mean remember james starks you know in 2010 he was on the pup for forever we're wondering who this kid from buffalo is he ever going to play and then he has 100 yards you know in the in the playoff game against the Eagles in the first round of the playoffs and nobody ever seen anything from him and ended up having a real nice career for us in Green Bay. I mean, that kind of comes to mind, but not really like one play where you go from, is this kid going to make it, going to get it figured out? You know, people are kind of bagging on him to, oh, my God, he's a star
Starting point is 01:19:07 in a matter of a few weeks. Hard to think of anybody who's had that kind of jump, but happy for him. He cares about it. And the cool thing is just seeing the confidence. As an older player, you love seeing that confidence grow in those young kids because you see the evolution and noah's like to be that young and to you know want to you know play well and want to have those impact plays and and not having them you know multiple times and then to have like a game like he did against dallas and then to follow it up with two touchdowns and then to have a
Starting point is 01:19:41 catch and run in 100 yards and in another game it's like pretty cool for the kid how about another young guy who showed some great confidence jaylo you just talked about him hitting christian what were your thoughts on his performance did you get a chance to chat with him afterwards about how he played and seemed like he looked like a much more confident and better quarterback than he did last year seems like there's real growth there how did that make you feel uh it was it was really nice to watch you know i uh you know feel like an older brother uh watching him uh you know do well i care about the kid a lot and fun to see his growth fun to just see him just kind of relax up there you know i think that's as any young
Starting point is 01:20:21 player same thing with christian you know once you can make a few plays, it just kind of takes the anxiety out of the body and the tension out of the body. And to see him, you know, make accurate throws and do what he's been doing has been fun to watch. I think a lot of it I see, obviously go back and think about what I was thinking about as a third-year player. But the jumps that you see coincide with him, you know,
Starting point is 01:20:47 working on things in look team reps, you know, in practice a lot, working on look offs and different types of arm angle throws. And you didn't see that in the game. You just saw him kind of playing on time and making accurate throws. But I think it's because he's been feeling confident and doing those things on the look team then when you get in the game it allows you to just kind of sink and go back to the you know the fundamental things that you that you've been been drawing on so big uh you know
Starting point is 01:21:17 big respect to him obviously I think Tom Clements deserve some amount of credit because he's such a guru and teaching the fundamentals, but happy for Jay to go out there in a primetime game and have success. That was cool to hear. Ty, on your question for Aaron Rodgers. Aaron, hope you had a good Thanksgiving. Hope you have a good Christmas. Glad nobody tried to cancel it this year.
Starting point is 01:21:38 You recommended a book this year for the book club, a breathing book. Justin Fields has talked this year about how he's used yoga uh to help his breathing on the field are you going to give him that book maybe as a present uh this sunday and talk to him about his breathing that's a good question i might there's actually a couple other books about breathing i was thinking about putting on here but i didn't want to overwhelm everybody because pat's a big mouth breather oh yeah i got that nose yeah trying to get him get him more in the nose and working on some of those different types of breathing stuff.
Starting point is 01:22:10 But it's a little early. Right, that's what you got to do. It's in, deep, all the way, and then all the way out, you got to... I've been in one of those hot yogas. I've been in one of those cult things. What are you doing with your lips, though? I'm relaxing everything. That's what I'm told.
Starting point is 01:22:28 Let all the air out, relax everything. Yeah, you got to do some kegel work, though. All right. Just get back to your place, Justin Fields. I'm breathing every day. It's a little early. I'm not sure what his policy is on gifts. I always feel like that you can buy yourself some things until about
Starting point is 01:22:47 maybe two, maybe three weeks at the most before Christmas. I don't know what his policy is, but if he mentions it after the game, I'll definitely send him a book for Christmas. If he doesn't,
Starting point is 01:23:03 then it's a maybe. How do you feel about that how do you feel about um that became a great question tone that became a conversation about justin fields because of how much he's running they're uh they've got him on a pitch count already he's 24 years old they got him and i've say that because that seems to be early for this but it's working he's running all over the place and then he was talking about he's breathing and getting winded in those big situations obviously he's being very transparent but like I think people listening that like oh this guy's tired or he's scared of the big moment and they gotta put him on a pitch count because he can't run as much he's only 24 years old are we overthinking all that and how much do you think the breathing aspect is like real and how much did it change how you play?
Starting point is 01:23:47 Probably overanalyzing things. I think that's a standard in, in sports media. I'm not sure. I haven't seen the comment. No, of course not. I haven't seen the comments, but I think 24 year old should be able to handle anything.
Starting point is 01:24:02 They throw at them. I'm not sure what pitch count. Are we talking about runs or passes? Running. It might have just been phrased improperly, but basically they're watching how much he runs in practice because of how much he's been running in games or something like that. I was like.
Starting point is 01:24:17 Oh, well, that makes sense. I mean, they have all these modern-day technology, GPS, boards, how many yards you're running at practice yeah i don't that makes sense i mean we do that for every single position player so i'm not surprised on that but i'm sure he can handle he can handle all of it uh breathing yeah i've talked about box breathing and how that's helped me out um you know there's a lot of different uh other things to be kind of studied and pondered and talked about when it comes to different types of breathing and breathing impacting, you know, your anxiety levels, heart rate, and then also, you know, in conjunction with meditation or yoga practice or whatever it might be. There's some good stuff in that.
Starting point is 01:25:00 There's some good books about it I can recommend. But, yeah, it's important. You've got to get out of – stop being such a big mouth breather. AJ is a mouth breather as well. What he wants to do, we broke our big-ass beaks at some point in our lives. I assume, AJ, that's why you breathe at night. Not officially broken, but, yeah, I have no air coming through. But, yeah, not officially broken.
Starting point is 01:25:22 Yeah, me neither. It's pretty tough to get it through. No official break here either. Did not get it documented. Is that what you're saying? Did not have somebody officially tell us it was booked? Just didn't break. Didn't break.
Starting point is 01:25:30 I've had it drilled out, but that didn't take. So I need to do it again. You want me to see that? For real. Okay. Any ENTs out there, let me know for real. But how long have you been like this, Aaron? Honestly, have you always been like this?
Starting point is 01:25:44 Because we've only got a chance to chat with you the last three years. What, a hippie? Yeah. Yeah, that's like kind of. Have you always been like that your entire NFL career? Is this something you've evolved into? No, I'd say the last 10 years probably. The last 10 years I've thought more about kind of the holistic approach to life and to sports.
Starting point is 01:26:03 Everything has gotten better because of it for you? Yes. Everything has gotten better. I mean, I look healthier, I would say. I see some of my old pictures, and AJ always sends me pictures of myself where I look super bloated or fat or whatever just to body shame me,
Starting point is 01:26:22 which I don't really appreciate. Of course. I just wanted to get it out there. False. Ty called Baumgartner a fatso the other day. That was in jest. That's a joke. Ty said that to him.
Starting point is 01:26:31 You said he was good at it. He said it a couple times. It was rude. It was disgusting. I was disgusted. That's, yeah. You know, did he respond with something about Cameo and how big he is on Cameo or what?
Starting point is 01:26:45 I don't think he has responded. Good news. I'm happy he did not hear it because I actually said, that was disgusting. And then Ty goes, oh, boo-hoo, fatso. That's what he said as the follow-up to it. So I was like, damn, pretty rude to old Baumgartner. I don't know if Baumgartner deserved that. Like I said, it was ingest as a joke.
Starting point is 01:27:02 If he took it one way, you know, I'm sorry. But. You know, everybody's going to be offended about something. Yeah. You know, I think Brian's a big boy. He probably will be able to, you know, not find too much offense from that comment. Okay, good. Thank you, Brian.
Starting point is 01:27:19 Thank you, Ball. You are. I found enough in it already, so. I was. I was so offended by it. Because I don't have a relationship with that guy. You know, so, like, some of the people we bury on this show, we have relationships with.
Starting point is 01:27:30 So it's like when I inevitably have to run into said person, they at least get it, you know. But there are some people who get some ricochet shots from this show that I've never met before, and then I meet them for the first time, and, oh, I forgot about something that the toxic table said eight months ago that definitely got to this person. And I'm coming in for a, man, awesome to meet you. And it is not like that at all.
Starting point is 01:27:54 It's like, all right, this is why I don't go in public. Whoops. Okay. That was my guy. He was just joshing. That's all you got to say. Yeah. Well, there's normally some built-up scars, I think,
Starting point is 01:28:04 because normally they sit on it for a few months. You know what I mean? That whole thing happens. But anyways, Baumgartner, we don't fuck with him. So anyways, he got body shamed just like you did, it sounds like, from AJ. I'm happy to hear that you have figured out what makes you the best you. Speaking of the best you possible, I feel like I've been the best me possible because we've been a part of something for two seasons now
Starting point is 01:28:22 that makes the world a better place, AQ, something you you've never done the world needed a book club to rally behind the world i need to get something in real quick okay is this the x-ray thing not about covid um or the extras it was more on the lines of speaking of people who watch our show and with a victim mentality and get offended by things. Oh, here we go. I did want to make sure that I mentioned how much fun and how well decorated and well thought out the Thanksgiving gathering was at the Crosby's house. Hell yeah, Crosby. We knew it, didn't we, Aaron? We knew they were going to do great, didn't we?
Starting point is 01:29:06 So big shout out to Molly and Mason Crosby, especially Molly, because Molly was very sensitive about some of the things said last week. So I want to say she did a great job. Hell yeah, Molly. She was most of the time a very attentive host. And she has some help and some really cute kids who I absolutely love. So that was great spending time with them. But I have to mention, because Molly will absolutely lose her mind if I don't, that she did a really nice job hosting. And I'm sure Mason, you know, did a little bit. How was the turkey?
Starting point is 01:29:46 The turkey, yeah. The cooking of the turkey was certainly something you said can get your anxiety levels high. How did it taste? Was it smoked? Was it a fried turkey? Did we go a baked turkey? What was the turkey? What was your overall rating on the food that I'm sure Molly heard you judge before you even got there?
Starting point is 01:30:03 Listen, I'm going to say this again. I don't think anybody goes to Thanksgiving, not many people, and really is looking forward to eating turkey. It's the only time of the year they actually eat turkey. I mean, there's got to be some people out there, I'm sure. I'm not one of them. I'm about the sides. So I was very, very happy with the side options, with the pie options.
Starting point is 01:30:25 Oh, come on. It was a very well. What were the sides? What were the sides? Good stuffing? Good stuffing, huh? Listen, you need a good sweet potato something. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:39 And there was a great one. I don't know, and I don't want to, you know, I'm probably going to hear about this if she actually did, but I don't know that Molly actually cooked a turkey. I believe there was some help from a fantastic chef named Adam, who everybody at the Packers knows and loves. And I don't know if Molly actually did it. But I will say everything else that Molly had ready was fantastic.
Starting point is 01:31:02 There were party favor giveaways. Wow. Mostly attentive. Mostly attentive. Mostly attentive. I don't think she cooked a turkey. I think our team chef did. Molly, don't listen to any of that. I feel a little bad,
Starting point is 01:31:20 and I just want to get this PSA out there. Listen, don't be a freaking weirdo okay somebody who watched the show went over to molly's house with some sort of pie saying it was from me oh no and then wouldn't leave that was i'm just saying this That's creepy. And don't be that person. I don't think they're from my show. They're from something else. They probably follow you on Instagram or something. She's lucky Mace didn't come home and pound that dude.
Starting point is 01:31:54 Yeah, pound him. Hell yeah. Thanksgiving pound him. They talk about stuffing on Thanksgiving. This is Thanksgiving pound him. Damn right. Congrats to Crosby's on an incredible Thanksgiving. A lot of work goes into that. So, Molly, I assume you kicked ass.
Starting point is 01:32:09 Way to go, Molly. Love you, Molly. There were some things said in that, Molly, that you should just don't even hear. Glaze over. Because everything else was good. All right. Now, ladies and gentlemen, it is fantastic to be a part of something that makes the world a better place for once and for all.
Starting point is 01:32:25 AQ, you know nothing about that. Ain't that right? That's right. We have made the world a smarter place, a better place, a more insightful place with these Aaron Rodgers Tuesdays, not only from the conversation, but from the things that have been created. Most importantly, a book club that this generation needed. You had heard of book clubs in the past. I believe Oprah still has a large one.
Starting point is 01:32:45 There needed to be a new one. We didn't know there needed to be a new one until we were sitting on the show one time. And the person that created the new one said, I have a book I'd like to recommend. And then, boom, the Aaron Rodgers Book Club began. Since then, we have learned of so many books that have made people more smart. We've learned of so many situations where kids have started reading. We have learned about adults who have cracked back into their bookshelf, started diving back into reading to make the world a better place with the Aaron Rodgers Book Club.
Starting point is 01:33:10 And now it is time to debut the 12th or 13th book from this week's, in this year's, Aaron Rodgers Book Club. First, it was The Mastery of Love. We mastered that, didn't we? Hell yeah. Almost a doctorate if you fucking needed it. Then we went to 1984, which caused quite a conversation from George Orwell.
Starting point is 01:33:29 Then there was Yorda Contemplation, which we contemplated how to change your mind, which is also a documentary. Healing, which was a breathing book that needed maybe
Starting point is 01:33:36 to be shared with Justin Fields. Then there's obviously The Boy and the Mushroom and The Sacred Cross. And then there was Love Wins. There was a Keanu Reeves coloring book
Starting point is 01:33:45 and last but not least into the wild which in this gripping account acclaimed journalist john crocker reassembled the disquieting facts of chris mccandless's short life and he searched for clues to the mystery of his untimely death. This was a fucking thriller. This one was awesome. And I can't wait to hear what this week's is. Ladies and gentlemen, Aaron Rodgers Book Club 2.0, book 13 is... Is in no way a representation of anything I feel like you personally need to work on so i'm oh i'm not uh
Starting point is 01:34:28 this is not directed at you no but the book is called the book is called recovery freedom from our addictions oh jesus christ and it's by an individual that i find very fascinating and his name is russell brand oh yeah yeah. Hey, he was a rich English... Yeah, Al DeSnow. There it is. In that movie? Al DeSnow, yeah. He's like y'all from London.
Starting point is 01:34:53 You got to come to the Greek. Something happened with this guy where he disappeared. Great soundtrack. They came back. This guy, interesting, right? Oh, yeah. Very much so.
Starting point is 01:35:03 He wrote a book. What's it called? Freedom? A lot of provoking. Yeah, it's called Recovery, Freedom from Oh, yeah. Very much so. He wrote a book. What's it called? Freedom? Thought-provoking guy. It's called Recovery, Freedom from Our Addictions. And I just enjoy listening to him. He says a lot of things that make you think and encourages you to do kind of your own research and stuff. But I do enjoy kind of his openness and honesty.
Starting point is 01:35:23 And he was an obviously big uh you know hollywood guy and now he's kind of uh not really working there as much and talking about experiences a lot of addictions uh that he had to work through but uh i do appreciate his point of view somebody he's on that list of like you know five or ten people he'd love to have dinner with at some point just because i find him uh him interesting and enjoy enjoy how thought-provoking he can be. I also think he's a really good writer. So, yeah, definitely. I wasn't pointing that at you.
Starting point is 01:35:55 Obviously, AJ has his own issues with cigar smoking that he's been working through. I haven't seen him smoke on the show in a while. Oh, did you read Russell Brand's book? I quit. Did you read it and you quit smoking cigars? Is that what you did? Yep, exactly. If you read this book, do you have to read it in that accent?
Starting point is 01:36:12 I assume. I have to. I think so. Have to. He has a great one. There's got to be an audio book. I'm sure Connor or Diggs could check that out, get you the audio book. Football season, Aaron.
Starting point is 01:36:23 It's going to be tough. Narrated by Helen Mirren, I think. How do you feel? She's awesome. I don't know who that is. That's a British lady? She's a dame, yeah. She's awesome.
Starting point is 01:36:33 She's a dame? Dog. Yeah. Dog? Good reader? Sounds like she's a great reader. Great reader. It's a total package.
Starting point is 01:36:40 I don't know who this is. She's a rocket. Oh, yeah. We got it. Best way. It's on all of you. It's narrated by Russell Brand. Oh, okay. So it's who this is. He's a rocket. Oh, yeah. We got it. That's what it's on. It's on. It's on.
Starting point is 01:36:46 It's narrated by Russell Brand. Okay. So it's not this woman. All right. Sweet. All right. So Russell Brand's reading his own book. Okay.
Starting point is 01:36:53 So just as we go forward here in this relationship, anytime you pick a book specifically for me, like don't, don't start out with saying, Hey, because as you were thinking about laying it out you're like oh pat's gonna think this is for him and it is so you tell me beforehand wouldn't have thought that was for me if you didn't say like hey maybe this book is you're the only one that reads it this week that's kind of how you laid it out but i appreciate you doing
Starting point is 01:37:20 that i know you're not gonna read it so i also didn't want you to get sensitive because I feel like there's been a couple times during this 45 minutes where you may have taken somebody else's offense and made it your own. Hey, Baumgartner. Baumgartner. He clogged that toilet. I mean, he got dunked on by Ty a couple
Starting point is 01:37:40 of times. Poor fella. Anyways, can't wait to read that book from Russell Brand in Russell Brand's voice and then listen to the audio version to hear how close it was and see if I got the same exact outcome from it. We appreciate the hell out of you. Good luck in Chicago, man. You're a landlord up there. Thanks, guys.
Starting point is 01:37:58 Aaron Rodgers. Yeah! This was the king of the wedge. Hell yeah. This guy had a hell of a year. We had great returns. He was an incredible center. He was a coach.
Starting point is 01:38:09 He won a Super Bowl. Ladies and gentlemen, a member of the Penn State cult, host of In the Trenches, and Bob will exchange A.Q. Shipley. Yeah! A.Q. Let's go into Trenches, A.Q. Well, before we do that, I think I won more than I lost when it came to the wedge, wedge buster.
Starting point is 01:38:24 K.O. Dubb, buster ko dub i used to do this i used to walk by pat right i go hey i got the l2 make sure you fucking watch yeah yeah he was ready and l2 l2 is the one that is uh so twos go one normally hang right safety guys one two three four five count from outside in r one two 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. L, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 on kickoffs. Ones normally safety, guys. They can put ones, though, at like a three position to try to fuck up your count. You're trying to find the ones at all times. Could be lined up at four, still the ones because they're not counted for.
Starting point is 01:38:58 We're blocking two, three, four, five. Two always smokers. Going to bust. They are 4-4, 4-5, straight to ball. So big fella here used to have to fake going first, peel off. Hello, how you doing? Welcome to the fucking wedge game, little guy. And he was good at it.
Starting point is 01:39:19 I thought for sure after watching the movie Concussion probably wasn't the best position. I'm happy they kind of changed it. I haven't watched it. Don't worry about it. But I did text him immediately afterwards like, just watch Concussion. wasn't the best position. Sure. I'm happy they kind of changed it. I haven't watched it. Don't worry about it. But I did text him immediately afterwards, like, just watch Concussion. I'm worried about you, buddy.
Starting point is 01:39:30 And it seems like your brain's doing just fine. What was my response? Haven't watched it. Won't watch it. That's right. If it doesn't enter your universe, it's not real.
Starting point is 01:39:37 It's not real. That's right. Well, we're not getting that whole conversation. Yeah. Because that was a conversation that was happening and I think it still is.
Starting point is 01:39:43 Oh, yeah. Merrill Hodge is just... Yeah. He's the wedge and the wedge buster in that one. Anyways, AQ, I'm proud of you, bud. In the trenches, let's learn some stuff about some good football players. AJ can hear me, right? Yep. Perfect. Yep, this is the play I texted you about yesterday, all right?
Starting point is 01:39:57 So, fourth quarter, two minutes left in the game. Cleveland Browns down. First of all, let's also note a lot of offensive coordinators would be in full panic mode right now and not run the ball. They continue to run their offense because they know they got a dog. Here's another thing that I love, which also sets this up. We hate this matchup, right? Joe Tryon, Shoyanka, stud. David Njoku, one of the best catches of the year, right?
Starting point is 01:40:23 Yes. We're going to detach him just a little bit, just widen the split a little bit, which widens him out a little bit. We don't want to block him, so now we're going to send him through. Okay? Now check this out. We get the man scheme. Anytime you get a G scheme or a man scheme, either guard, guard pulls,
Starting point is 01:40:37 depending on the backside shade. Since he's in the three, we're just going to pull the center. Center and guard are going to pull frontside. Watch. Center and left guard. Get out in space here. Let's go, boys. Let's watch this. This is a huge play.
Starting point is 01:40:52 They call a run. Two minutes left in the game. They get stopped here. They're kind of in a shitty situation. Now look at that hole that they just hit. Wow! Woo-hoo-hoo! Huge. Right? Now check out Njoku on an all-pro, Levante David. Up on Devin White.
Starting point is 01:41:09 Look at that. Boom. Boom. Wide open. And now we get a free runner. Oh, man. We get a good block there. 30-yard gain gets him down.
Starting point is 01:41:16 Jeez. 10-yard line, and then obviously they get the game-winning touchdown or game-tying touchdown to go into overtime and end up winning it in overtime. Two-minute drill. People are scared to run the ball because the ball is going to end up in the playing field, so you're either going to have to spend a timeout or the clock's going to keep running and people are going to be tired. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:41:31 Last night, Jonathan Taylor couldn't pick up a third and two on two-minute. Everybody's losing their mind because it was bad clock management. This time, Nick Chubb and the boys execute, and they fucking win this game, AQ. Did you expect this? No way. I did not. I did not expect this.
Starting point is 01:41:44 I thought Buccaneers coming off a bye week, getting healthy, kind of got things figured out, right? We all thought they got things figured out. I did. They did not, clearly. And there was some questionable stuff down the stretch that, you know. On what side? Some decisions.
Starting point is 01:41:58 Some decisions, right? The same thing we were questioning last night. Do we call timeout? Do we not call timeout? Some different things like that. Game management. A little game management stuff. No, Jeff Sarady does that.
Starting point is 01:42:07 But, yeah, ended up getting a tough loss, and now the Bucs got to regroup. They're fortunately. Top Bulls came out, I believe it was either today or yesterday, and basically admitted, like, yeah, I was playing for overtime on their last possession when they had a couple timeouts. Yeah, I know who doesn't like that very much. Who's that?
Starting point is 01:42:24 That'd be Thomas Edward Brady Jr. So you're saying the quarterback, Thomas Edward Brady, on the field doesn't have say-so? Well, remember, there's numerous times where Tom, I don't think he does. I think he's still getting plays called to him, right? He's not calling the plays like Peyton did, right? At least. I mean, I think he's got some control, especially if they went into some
Starting point is 01:42:40 no-huddle stuff, I think in overtime, which I think he's got some control over. But for the most part, he's not calling the play. Payton was calling play. Like, I think that's not normal. No. AJ, is that not normal? He's like – Nobody calls their plays.
Starting point is 01:42:54 It's like 1970s. I wonder – and I wonder, you know, that's why putting that play – Two-minute quarterbacks do it usually. Well, and that play sheet, that's why it's so important, right? Normally quarterback and the play caller go through, why putting that play sheet. Two-minute quarterbacks do it usually. Well, and that play sheet, that's why it's so important, right? Normally quarterback and the play caller go through, like, the play sheet, and it's like selecting which plays in what situations, and they're there to, like, remind them.
Starting point is 01:43:13 It's kind of like a team effort. Some places probably not like a team effort as much as other places. Well, I think what most people don't realize either is even on the no-huddle two-minute stuff, they're still getting stuff called in. It's like, hey, run trips formation right and get a play called, right? And they're giving them the play. Like it's very few times do quarterbacks make these calls on their own. It's like you – Well, we give them all the credit for it, don't we?
Starting point is 01:43:33 I feel like we give a lot of credit for it. But the coaches need the charts though. I think like the coaches, some of them have these giant charts that they're going to, okay, third and medium, third and whatever, first and ten, and they're going down their list and they pick what's best. A quarterback just has to come out of out of the blue and just he has to memorize every single word of every single call that's why i think it's really hard for them to make those calls yeah i think so too but like i guess i was just in an alien like situation
Starting point is 01:43:59 watching peyton just call out all the code words basically to every wide receiver after looking at the defense and being like, ah, we're running this, this, this, and this, and then just going for it. I guess there's not a lot of humans that can do that, huh? No, it's unheard of. That's why I'm watching him. Because he was actually. Right. He's in the game.
Starting point is 01:44:19 Yeah, that was actually like, yeah, it is my game. Excuse me. Yeah. We will call it after this run to Jonathan Taylor or whatever. He had more say than anybody in the history, it sounds like. Yeah, I mean, I've never heard it. And that's why, like, I laugh every time where it's like, oh, why didn't he just audible? Like, they don't have the freedom to do that.
Starting point is 01:44:34 Quarterback, even the best I've been around, don't have the freedom to do that. Now, you might tag some things where kill, alert. To a second play. To a second play, right? But you don't have full authority to just go full tilt audible man i think that's i think i'm learning something here honestly i i assume that it was a lot more you know decisive in like reading a defense i thought that's why brady left new england because he couldn't do what he wanted to do and now he's in tampa and he can't do what he
Starting point is 01:45:00 wants to do but let's also remember too it's his buck season now. A couple years ago when they won the Super Bowl, weren't really struggling. Now this, you know, time, AQ can probably speak on it specifically, is when they kind of flipped the switch. And I bet because of a loss to the Browns, who aren't, you know, very good this year, this might be the perfect time for Brady to say, okay, this fun game, you know, it was a good time.
Starting point is 01:45:22 It's my team now, okay? We're doing what I say We're not playing for overtime No, we're not playing for overtime I want another ring Okay, I think You think I made the decision that I made
Starting point is 01:45:33 That had the ripple effects that it has had To come back and play for overtime I don't think so I lost my family, guys I want to win games The guy's a black belt, Todd Did you hear that? You think I'm playing for overtime, dude?
Starting point is 01:45:49 Come on. He's Brazilian, asshole. Yeah, you're right. Maybe, maybe, like this will be the Buccaneers' time. It's after Thanksgiving. Isn't that what Belichick says? That's the most important football. And Tom's just been mentioning Belichick over and over again.
Starting point is 01:46:05 There it is. What are you talking about? Just saying. All Tom talks about is how much Coach Belichick, he always healed. He's like Derek Carr. What are you talking about? No, he's not Derek Carr, but there's a lot of nostalgia in his voice for sure. Hey, did you see Derek Carr heal from an injury?
Starting point is 01:46:21 He is a Wolverine. You know how Russell Wilson said he's a Wolverine? Yeah. Derek Carr might He is a Wolverine. You know how Russell Wilson said he's a Wolverine? Derek Carr might actually be a Wolverine. A couple years ago, we saw his hip flexor pop off of his body on Thursday Night Football. And then he was back 10 days later in the next
Starting point is 01:46:37 game. This past week, something happened to him where he was out. He got blasted. Next play, he's in. Dapped up, back up. Keep him moving. Threw back in the next play. Next play, he's in. Dapped up the backup. Keep him moving. Yeah, he was on the ground for a touchdown the next play, dude. Yeah, he did. Need to talk about Derek Carr fucking recovering faster than anybody in history, maybe.
Starting point is 01:46:52 Yeah, I mean, you can rip on him, but, like, he wasn't fucking around when he said, you know, like, what we go through. All right. Okay. Let's go ahead and let's get into the practice. All right. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:47:03 Here we go. Here we go, Todd. Big win from this team this week. Big win by the Jags. I told you from week one, I love this group. I really like what they're doing. They are so close. They've got so much talent.
Starting point is 01:47:20 They've got some dogs up front, and I love, love, love, love what Doug Peterson is doing on offense. This is a simple scheme disguised a little bit formationally. We've got a tight end right here. What do we call this play? When the tight end blocks first guy inside, we call that a wham, right? Yeah, wham. We talked about it all, right? Wham! I inaccurately described what Hurst did this past weekend to Dupree as a wham. That was a why rap. Why rap. This is a wham because same side going down. Same side going down. If he was going back across now we're getting wide wrap. Exactly. There it is. Wide wrap. We're learning it, aren't we?
Starting point is 01:47:49 Hell yeah. We're in the trenches, AJ. What do we got here? Here we are. We got pass rusher. What do pass rushers do? Rush the passer. Easiest block on the field right here. Cam is going to get him up the field and just basically throw him up, which creates the big gaping hole.
Starting point is 01:48:07 Center's going to go here. Look at the switch block right there. And then ear hole. Oh. Absolute ear hole. Wow. Oh. Wow.
Starting point is 01:48:14 Oh. Oh. Christian Kirk. Oh. Boom. Oh. Oh. Great point.
Starting point is 01:48:20 Christian Kirk, $84 million to block. Let's go. Wide. What a run. Back up, running back. You have wanted to put the Jacksonville Jaguars on in the trenches three or four out of the ten weeks. And we've said, you put the Jags already on here.
Starting point is 01:48:37 Can we not do another team? It's the Jags. No one cares. Can you do one of the teams that will win? And AQ has said, and I apologize, Duvall, remember how heartbroken I was that we lost to you last year? I thought that was something that was impossible. I have not put proper respect on the Jacksonville Jaguars organization as a whole,
Starting point is 01:48:58 just from what I experienced watching the Jacksonville Jaguars as an organization, as a whole, whenever I was there. So that's on me. But AQ has been firmly entrenched in the camp of that the Eagles can run the ball well. And I think this year more than ever, running the ball well has been helping out with everything else. Trevor Lawrence is a guy. This team could be a team, huh?
Starting point is 01:49:18 You think this team could be a team? They are trending upwards fast. I'm telling you. They are close. Let me also point one more little detail on this play out, which is huge. Go back to the very beginning here. Again, I love whenever you run the wham with the switch blocking. The center is going to go through here.
Starting point is 01:49:33 He goes here and behind. So to this three technique, three technique, outside shoulder of the guard. We've talked about that a bunch. When he goes here and makes it look like he's pulling, he's taught to get in his hip pocket and basically thinks that it's going to be trap or pull that way and try and steal the handoff that's what sets up the wham block because now we get to pull here his eyes are all over look where his eyes are it's all over here and then doesn't even see the tight end coming on the way
Starting point is 01:50:00 ear hole boom boom oh that's a hell of a shot from a tight end on a 315-pound D-tackle. It's also great design. This is the little wrinkles that you talk about some teams do that just make everything make more sense, make it easier. Like, hey, let's make this block that is normally difficult a lot easier. How do we distract him so we can set up the ear hole a little bit better? That's like next-level thinking, right? And that's what you're talking about with people being creative in the run game,
Starting point is 01:50:25 winning in people that aren't being boring, like the Colts, for instance. Every single play that we show this week has been run basically since the beginning of time. It's the one little wrinkle, the one little shift, the one little motion, the one little eye candy that hesitates a linebacker, a D-tackle, a D-end up the field to set up something else
Starting point is 01:50:45 that is making these plays become the gashers. And Trevor Lawrence finally slammed his helmet in frustration, showed a little emotion. Showed that he cares. It was awesome, yeah. You want to see some care out of these guys, right? Showed that he's, listen to this, a human. Whoa. Have not seen that out of Trevor Lawrence.
Starting point is 01:51:01 Well, that pregame speech, that was freaking sweet. I actually, what, I went on a full thing about how Trevor Lawrence isn't allowed to have a personality or emotions because if he did when he was in high school, everybody would have called him a cocky prick because he was supposed to be the next John Elway or whatever. So I think because he has gotten hyped since he's a sophomore in high school, he's kind of been conditioned that he's not allowed to be emotional. And he's just kind of always been like this. And they talk about how he's just so steady all the time.
Starting point is 01:51:29 It's like, I respect that, but I feel bad that he hasn't really had the opportunity because of other people judging him because he's been in spotlight to just be a little bit of a fucking human. I did like seeing him get excited. I like seeing him getting pissed off. I'm like, here we go. This is a human Trevor Lawrence. And they love him down there, I guess, in Jacksonville. He might, he's going to be a guy. Calvin Ridley next year. I think he's going to off. I'm like, here we go. This is a human, Trevor Lawrence. They love him down there, I guess, in
Starting point is 01:51:45 Jacksonville. He's going to be a guy. Calvin Ridley next year. I think he's going to be a guy. That's a huge gift for them. Doug Peterson, good coach, huh? I think he's a stud. I mean, you heard you guys might know the name. Andrew Weingart. You said he would die for him. You said he would die for him. That's awesome.
Starting point is 01:52:02 You've got to be a good coach to say you're going to die for him. Trevor Lawrence, too. that big old hug at the end of the game. Okay, so we've talked a lot about creativity on this one. The Raiders, everybody's been wanting me to put – all these Raiders fans have been wanting me to put them on all year long. Oh, you're a wanted man. They've done it. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:17 I love you, too. Getting requests. Guys at DJ. Maybe it's just one person, but it's somebody that's telling me to put the Raiders on every week. This group is good, very good. They just haven't won a lot of football's somebody that's telling me to put the Raiders on every week. This group is good. Very good. They just haven't won a lot of football games, so they haven't been able to kind of get on this.
Starting point is 01:52:29 But here's the big thing. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hell yeah. You got a lot of losers on here, pal. No, check it out. So we got a group that literally allowed him to play seven on seven. Pass protection was phenomenal all game. Here's where it's not creative.
Starting point is 01:52:43 This play was maybe the first play ever drawn up in the fucking sand that ever started football it's called a fullback iso on the mike linebacker it's been run since 1776 basically hell yeah hell yeah america we're gonna get an ace back to here a center guard double team back to barton easy blocks on the backside all you got to do on this backside make sure you don't get beat over the top. Keep him to that side. We got a 101 block here, which is a key block. We got a 101 block here, which is a key block. The biggest block, fullback on the mic.
Starting point is 01:53:14 Boom. Yachib Johnson. That's it. And then we get winner, winner, chicken dinner in overtime. 85 yards or whatever it was. Boom. See ya. Oh.
Starting point is 01:53:23 See ya. Great block by Mack Hollins, huh? Mack Hollins had a hell of a game, ya. See ya! Great block by Matt Collins. Collins had a hell of a game too. Again, we say this all the time in the home runs. Who the fuck? He's a great player. He was the guy that was also stuck in the Uber with Renfro, Devonta Adams, and Derek R. They've had chemistry since the get-go. Okay, yeah. He's become a guy.
Starting point is 01:53:40 He's awesome to watch. Good player. But the receiver block downfield Is always the one That makes the home run It's always the one And just gets Look at that This is over
Starting point is 01:53:51 This is just Basic ass shit right here You're saying huh Just execution Execution And the crazy thing about it You guys tell me If I'm fucking crazy
Starting point is 01:53:59 I don't think he gets touched He might get a little pinky From somebody On that last safety On top left Maybe Top left Just He might get a little pinky from somebody. On that last safety. Maybe. Top left. Just.
Starting point is 01:54:09 Do we get a pinky on him? Right there. Maybe on the elbow. Down. Quick little touch. Quick little touch. Maybe not, though. He might have been passed on. Yeah, he might have missed.
Starting point is 01:54:22 Wow. Not to him. AJ, what'd they do wrong? Just started sniffing the wrong way? I mean, I don't. He might have been passed on. Yeah, he might have missed. Wow. Not to him. AJ, what'd they do wrong? Just started sniffing the wrong way? I mean, I don't. Can you tell me, like, so the backer here is taking on the fullback. He ends up boxing this thing, trying to send it back to his other backer.
Starting point is 01:54:37 If he box or spills this, they're screwed either way. There's no one there. Yeah, because the corner's coming here, right? Like, if you had the corner filling there, you might have a chance. I think the key blocks are right here. We talk about this all the time. Again, Ash Cheek here, he gets him sealed inside. Ash Cheek there, which allows clean access by the fullback. This is a hell of a block by Illuminor, I think is how you pronounce his last name?
Starting point is 01:54:56 Yep. Jermaine. It's an unbelievable block. He gets turned right there. As soon as he gets turned right there, it's over. It's over. It is over. I mean, this is like, man.
Starting point is 01:55:04 It's overtime, too this is yeah they must be tired i mean quandary digs like that block by illuminor like i don't think people realize how hard that block is that is literally old school oklahoma drive block one-on-one and you have to move somebody that's taking somebody's will boom now turn it's an incredible block let's go dude ball game hey congrats to the raiders and josh jacobs in the offensive line breaking a record quiet quieting the loudest atmosphere in football maybe that's your that's your loudest place that's my loudest place okay in all football loudest place. Okay. In all of football? College football included? No, in pro football.
Starting point is 01:55:48 You think college football louder? I do. AJ, you know where this is going, right? I was at the horseshoe this weekend. Where do you think? Where's louder? I was at the horseshoe this weekend. I was able to talk to somebody standing next to me at kickoff. I was surprised by that.
Starting point is 01:56:03 I was honestly surprised by that. I was honestly surprised by that. But I think it remained a static loud, if that makes sense. Remained a static loud, but was able to talk to a person next to me during kickoff at the horseshoe. Did not expect that. Loud, not saying it wasn't loud, but it didn't hurt my ears. Now, I left before any massive moments. I probably would have got the loudest it could have possibly been but i didn't have like my eardrums hurting which has happened whenever i left like houston on thursday night for the fucking texans colts game whenever houston
Starting point is 01:56:34 mattered back in the day like i never played it was loud houston was loud it was loud house i don't know how it was the loudest until i played in seattle every year for five years i wonder if the houston people know that like the texans organization like if you get a team down there i think like could be fucking yeah could be a real weapon down there aj college louder than any pro place and did you ever play in seattle yeah i played in seattle a bunch yeah i mean if i had to pick a yeah seattle i would say is theest. By design and their fans are smart, and they know when to cheer and when to not cheer. That's a big deal. Yes.
Starting point is 01:57:09 It's real. You can really help the game if you know when to be loud, when not to be loud. Last night was pretty quiet here a little certain times. Yeah, it was. It was terrible. It was a little comfy in there. A lot of loud yinzers fucking getting real excited and real drunk as that game continued to go on.
Starting point is 01:57:28 That Eagles game, too. Defense. There was an old-school defense chance happening from Steelers fans. Terrible towels spinning. I mean, defense. Move. Move. It was loud.
Starting point is 01:57:38 AQ decided not to come to the game. He did something with his daughter, though. He's a good dad. Good dad. Good dad. All right, let's go to the Fucking watches still got a bug on you. Yeah. No my watch must be broke. Maybe it's my fucking watch your watch Yeah, you know I get in the text
Starting point is 01:58:06 Last week you try to leave without saying bye to us. Do you remember that? It was despicable. I thought the show was going on. I was trying to be respectful of the Thunderdome. That show doesn't. Yeah. You're a good guy.
Starting point is 01:58:14 They told me. Okay. They told me, no matter what, say bye. I said, okay, you'll get a bye. It was the pod, right? Yeah. The pod enjoys it. Your goodbye leads to a better conversation than whatever was ever going on. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:58:26 Albie's a good guy, you know? I appreciate it. Go right in. Yeah, he is. Good old Albie. Coach. Hey, we got two coming from the Eagles this week, huh? Okay.
Starting point is 01:58:36 Yeah. We got two coming from the Eagles. This first one, a little bit of bullshit. I'm going to call it a little bit of bullshit. What? Don't like it. Don't like it. Don't like it.
Starting point is 01:58:43 AJ, this is your side of the ball that I'm going to have to go after a little bit here. Let's let this thing run a little bit. AJ, why are you going to do what you're about to do? We got a little counter trade coming. Guard and tackle. Guard kick out. Lane Johnson coming around. Free hitter on Amos to safety.
Starting point is 01:58:59 Listen, we changed the rules. This guy's not even thinking this guy can cut. We changed the rules. We cannot cut a lineman downfield. What the fuck is that? Oh, AJ. He's already had the football. AJ.
Starting point is 01:59:11 I think that's a heck of a play from a safety. Did they throw the flag? Oh, yeah, they threw the flag. Sirianni was not happy. We don't know. That's close to the box. He might almost be in the box. You think that's in the box?
Starting point is 01:59:21 You never know. If Lane Johnson has a free run at me, I think I might be going low as well. Which used to be legal. Not anymore. It used to be. Not anymore. They talked about this being a big. Can you see they used this for grass, right?
Starting point is 01:59:32 Yes. Yeah, Lane said that. Lane's knee would have been blasted. That's what Lane actually came out and said. If that was turf, my knee would be completely destroyed. I think he's right. Yeah, because you saw it bend a little bit, but the turf gave out the grass gave out or whatever and i couldn't believe he was able to get up and go the next player or whatever he bounced right back yes i think he's incredibly athletic obviously
Starting point is 01:59:53 to talk about him being a quarterback he handles as well but yeah you could see how offensive lineman would want that out of the game well especially i mean listen if you're gonna if it's part of legal okay you know how you know you can protect for it right but knowing it's part illegal, okay, you know you can protect for it, right? But knowing it's illegal, we're not even thinking. His mind is thinking, like, hey, he's got to take me high. And then when you get that surprise. Also, though, AQ, what sucks for the defenders, though, you guys know we can't go low, so you're going 7,000 miles an hour. If we can go low, you kind of have to feel it out a little bit.
Starting point is 02:00:18 Correct, 100%. 100%. Jeez. Yeah. Obviously, the pools make this thing happen, but we also get to hear what Darius has to say about this. Yeah, I'm sure he'll be on the same side. Yeah, Darius is not going to agree with you. No.
Starting point is 02:00:30 No, he's going to mention it. You know how many times I've looked like an absolute idiot pulling out in space and a DB just doing this? I fucking fall on the ground. The minute I see that little, I'm like, shit, where'd he go? He went that way. Because you're top heavy. Yeah, exactly. Most big guys top heavy.
Starting point is 02:00:44 Yeah. And we're running full tilt, not sliding down. How fast offensive linemen are moving? 12, 13, 14? I mean, I've seen 17, 18. Whoa. Who? Ryan Jensen.
Starting point is 02:00:59 Whoa. Can run. 18 miles an hour? Oh, yeah. It's a bummer. Because you wear the thing that Aaron was talking about. You wear the catapult in the games. We would always get a little
Starting point is 02:01:09 sheet in our locker after games. Your max speed was this. Mine was always like 12 and a half. What about that lineman from Maryland that the Raiders drafted because he ran a 4-3 and he wasn't good at football? Who was that? I'd have to look it up. What about that
Starting point is 02:01:24 flexible guy? The center who can touch was that? I'd have to look it up. Okay. What about that flexible guy? The center who can touch his toes? Oh, yeah. I'm pretty sure he's got the fastest 40 of alignment. Yeah, he's a quarterback, right? No, this guy. Yeah, Lane Johnson, former quarterback. Oh, yeah, former quarterback.
Starting point is 02:01:35 They said he played quarterback, and he played tight end, then he played defensive tackle. He ran like a 4-6 at the combine. Yeah, it was something ridiculous. Dog. He's a freak athlete, Andy Johnson. His knee should have got blown up here. But that added point that you made, I will bring up to DB when he talks about it.
Starting point is 02:01:50 Yeah. Like, it's not allowed. So Lane's not even thinking about that. And he squares him up. So Lane's like, okay, this guy's going square on with me. And then hit you with the sneak attack. Lane probably had a moment of like, oh, god damn, this guy is going to square me up. So Lane's not even thinking he can go low because it's illegal.
Starting point is 02:02:05 So it is a little bit dirty. That is a bit dirty. AJ, we can all agree that's a bit dirty. Yeah, with how the rules are, but also this shows how athletic Lane is too. A guy that is less athletic than Lane and maybe didn't play as many sports growing up may tear this knee instantly. But Lane knows how to fall. He knows how to have his knee go limp when needed.
Starting point is 02:02:22 Yeah, like some guys, you've seen guys stumble through that that are hurt. He's a great athlete, Lane. Yeah. He's been on the show. There's an art to that. There's an art to being durable. I think so, too. Hey, you can't join a club in the top.
Starting point is 02:02:37 Ain't that right, AQ? That's correct. Best ability, availability. That's right. Agreed. Complete coach. That's why people lie about their injuries all the time. You heard an injury.
Starting point is 02:02:48 You should. AJ, can't say that. What happened? Not your head. Not your head. Get a goal. What happened? Kristen Pulisic has scored the all-time.
Starting point is 02:02:59 Yeah! Yes! Let's go! Yes! Yeah! Come on! Let's go! Yeah! Yeah! Let's go! Yeah!
Starting point is 02:03:06 I believe that we will win. I believe that we will win. I believe that we will win. I believe that we will win. I believe that we will win. I believe that we will win. Hell yeah! Let's go.
Starting point is 02:03:21 What a pass. Was it a firecracker? Sweet pass. It was a fucking long ball. This side of the 18 to the right side of the box. Cross. Pulls it. Put it in.
Starting point is 02:03:31 Fucking took a hit to put it in, too. He's hurt. What? No, he's not. Like hurt, hurt, or just like selling it? Chelsea hurt or American hurt? Just selling it a little bit, I think. Hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 02:03:39 We can't air this, but we can watch it. He ran into the goalie. What a ball. Oh, my God. Let's go! He got kicked in the dick. Yeah, that's it. He ran into the goalie. What a ball. Oh, my God. Let's go! He got kicked in the dick. Yeah, that's it. He got kicked in the balls.
Starting point is 02:03:48 He's fine. Wow. Yeah, he's knee to the groin. Yeah, he'll be fine. He'll be fine. Ice the jewels down. He'll be all right. Hey, Des, they took him off the field last game.
Starting point is 02:03:57 Yeah, he was. What a goal. What a fucking dog. Uh-oh, I ran. Uh-oh, Eron. Uh-oh. So the boys have been pressing hard all game. It's good to get one here before half. Come on!
Starting point is 02:04:09 Let's take the top off, boys. Yes! We will win. I believe that we will win. We will win. Remember, this is the message that is being said to all of the soccer players
Starting point is 02:04:24 that are representing the United States. If you want to win in this era, it takes more than a couple stars to earn your stripes. And if you want to win on this stage, you have to kill your egos before you can kill giants, which is why this team is built different. So when other teams see a pitch, we see a proven ground, a place to show the world that there's a world of difference between what they think we can do and what we know we can. One nation, under the radar, over the weight, and about the work. Because champions aren't defined by what happened to them four years, four matches, four minutes ago. They're measured by how they respond and the moments after. With the ball at
Starting point is 02:05:01 their feet and a chip on their shoulder, ready to ball and be a problem. 11 players with 11 different paths playing in the present with one pulse and with only one direction to go. Only forward. Hell yeah! Let's go win this thing. Come on!
Starting point is 02:05:16 Give me a wall. Give me a wall. Give me a wall. Christian's still on the ground right now and we will certainly keep you updated. He's selling right now. He's working for a card later. He's okay. Got need in the balls.
Starting point is 02:05:27 I don't know. AJ? I don't know if he's selling. He's selling hard, for sure. They hit hard. They did. Get up, Chris! They'll show a replay right after this. This is our dog, though. This is what we were asking for.
Starting point is 02:05:43 This is where it shows the... I don't know if you're going to have him for the rest of the game. He sold out for the fucking country. Yes, dude. That's what we needed. Thank you, Christian. Love you, Christian. Huge. What angle? What's your angle? One over top. You saw he fucking
Starting point is 02:05:57 pow. That was a big bump. Well, he got his goal and now we just need USA to win. Oh, Jesus Christ. Let's get rain up. Well, he got his goal, and now we just need USA to win. Oh, Jesus Christ. He changed his character. Let's get rain up. AJ, is that what you were saying when you were like, I don't know, did you see what we just saw right here?
Starting point is 02:06:12 They're still. Game's going on. They're still shuffling them off the side. Yeah, this does happen, and hopefully he'll get back in at a next stoppage or something like that. Can they sub as much as they want? I know there's other rules. Five. It used to be three.
Starting point is 02:06:26 Now it's five. So we will wait for him to feel better and then put him back on the field if he can. That is very normal in the soccer. It's like a quad. He's holding his quad. Oh, maybe a little bruise. That knee. Maybe it wasn't in balls.
Starting point is 02:06:37 Maybe it was right in the quad. Oh, no. He's good. He's jogging. He's jogging. Okay. What'd you sell him? He was selling.
Starting point is 02:06:42 He was selling. Our guy's back, Captain America. I would like to point out, too, that since we made the ask of Christian Pulisic to recognize that he is representing the United States of America here with his actions, and I'm not saying he heard what we said. I'm assuming we weren't the only ones that said that. He hasn't been rolling around, hasn't no. Hasn't been bitching. No.
Starting point is 02:07:05 Hasn't been flopping. He's been a dog. He's running face first in other people. He has heeded the call. We got our guy. We got the guy. Let's go. Mr. Pulific might have thought the same thing when he was watching from the stands.
Starting point is 02:07:17 You think his dad from Hershey, Pennsylvania? I think it's just a group of us as Americans. You're good. Let's go. I think he got a knee in the balls. Look at him. He's shaking it out. Yeah, look. He's trying to get it out. Yeah, he got a knee in the balls. Look at him. He's shaking it out. Yeah, look.
Starting point is 02:07:26 He's trying to get it out. Yeah, he's shaking it out. He needs to throw up. He's back in the game. He's back in. Is he? Yeah. Fucking right.
Starting point is 02:07:33 We should have done any time two touchdown score. We should have. We should have. Any time. Yep. All right. Let's finish this up. Hey, that's awesome.
Starting point is 02:07:42 That's good omen. Great omen. You're wearing a Navy SEAL shirt. Let's go. The United States just scored. We're talking about offensive line football in the first capital of the United States of America. Unbelievable. What a Tuesday.
Starting point is 02:07:53 Let's go to the trenches, shall we, pal? Shout out the Liberty Bell. Red, white, and blue. Let's go. Shout out. Live free or die. These colors don't run. All right.
Starting point is 02:08:01 Come and take it. What else you got? Keep going, Tone. All right. No. I'll only do the one. Let's go in the trenches. All right. Come and take it. What else you got? Keep going, Tony. All right. No. I'll only do the one. Let's go in the trenches. All right.
Starting point is 02:08:08 So I love this formation. And the reason why I love this formation is it forces the defense, whether to set it to the tight end or set it to the passing strength. The thing that's interesting here, they basically have another tight end over here. So they're able to still run the counter back into the boundary. But here's what else is interesting. This is what you're able to do when you have a quarterback like this.
Starting point is 02:08:31 And a lot of teams are starting to do this. And this is where you're getting your gashers, your huge holes, your home runs. Book the backside linebacker. Not even accounted for. Put an X over him. He's not even on the field. Fuck him. Gone.
Starting point is 02:08:41 See ya. Whoa. We get everybody blocking back. Now we get 89 tight end up here on him. Fuck them. Gone. See ya. Whoa. We get everybody blocking back. Now, we get 89 tight end up here on him. Stole. Because who's out? Goddard's out, right?
Starting point is 02:08:51 So the backup tight end has done a phenomenal job. We get stole on him. The other one is the second puller allowed to pull for the corner. Typically, if you were
Starting point is 02:08:59 running lead, you get the kick out here. Second puller goes to him. We're saying, screw him because Bostonoston scott's getting a hand off on the right side of this line which is going to hold him hold him plus he's looking that way so they all got a hold also allows the back to get in better relationship with the pullers now we get the counter back into the boundary and watch this hole oh wow look at that wow i mean that's is that what you want can you
Starting point is 02:09:30 run through that tone is that what you want you probably one time not the next time though how much easier is it uh to do this when the defense you're playing it's absolutely fucking sucks and so non-biased question it's it's. Guys just could, you know, I mean, they ran for like six hundred yards. And we don't know if they practiced or not. I saw your tweet during this game. I saw your tweet during this game, and I was like, we can't fucking tackle any of these. Yeah, these guys can't tackle. I went back and watched the coaches take.
Starting point is 02:09:57 I don't put as much on them as I put as much on this group just being absolute animals. Like, I really do. This is a bear defense. This defense, AJ, right? This is what you guys used to get into to stop the run. Am I correct? Yeah, this is when you're getting drilled. Yeah, you try to get into this to shut them down.
Starting point is 02:10:15 Middle three are covered. This is what you do to shut it down. Nice. Work like gangbusters. Well, that's the thing, too. They don't have AJ's freaking hawk on their defense. 58 sees it, though. He just, like, half a step. He sees it and starts to shoot there and try to get through that.
Starting point is 02:10:29 But, man, just so close. Yep, and that's the thing. When you take the underneath route, that's where you get the big holes, too. We talked about this, too, AJ. This becomes a huge hole. Now, obviously, he has to do that, right? He should be trying to work over there, though, AJ. If he could get two, ideally, it would be amazing if he could summary in there
Starting point is 02:10:45 and get two and pick off 81. If he does that, then isn't this... Yeah, that's there, but hopefully Jair can overlap and make that tackle and he'd have to make a drastic cut. Well...
Starting point is 02:10:56 Yeah, ideally he takes that ball. Either way, they're screwed right here. Screwed. Hell of a play. Yeah. Hell of a play. Let's go to a big bump, baby. Like...
Starting point is 02:11:04 Yeah! Big bump. Hey, your Hayden Hur's go to a big bump, baby. Like, hey. Big bump. Hey, your Hayden Hurst one on Twitter has done very well. Congratulations on being a social media guy. Thank you. Thank you. I'm trying. I'm trying to catch up.
Starting point is 02:11:15 I'm trying to catch up. But here we go. Hey, you're running your own race, pal. Thanks, bud. Appreciate it. Don't catch up to anybody. Yeah, you're always on time. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 02:11:23 Roger Saffel. Except for last night. He comes early. He could have won the game with us. It's true. So you you're always on time. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Roger Saffel. Except for last night. He comes early. He could have wanted to play a game with us. It's true. So you weren't right on time last night. That was the first thing
Starting point is 02:11:30 I said to him, too, when I got in. I said, Q, good to see you. Why didn't you come to the game last night? Well, I fucking hate you guys, so why would I? Nick, you sound static.
Starting point is 02:11:36 I can't hear you, Nick. I don't think I can hear you. Well, it's Nick controlling the audio. Yeah, I tested it this morning. It works great. Oh, okay. Sounds good.
Starting point is 02:11:42 It is a little static every once in a while over here. It's whenever you're producing too much electricity with some big fucking bumps. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Pump it up. Since we're talking about big bumps, let's get the same guy that we had on last week.
Starting point is 02:11:54 Roger Saffold, 35-year-old, I think. Dog. Absolute monster. Great pickup by them. Get him in the off-season. Now, watch this. Check out the nose. Target acquired.
Starting point is 02:12:04 Check out the nose. acquire the nose i'm gonna back away for this yep locked oh no roger that would hurt oh that went to watch this is the best part watch my man get up we gotta watch my man get up this is the best part boom wait for Wait for it. Oh, shit, that hurt. Fuck. Oh, shit. His arm's broken. What are you doing?
Starting point is 02:12:31 Thank you. This guy just got a fucking blindside shot. This is the best part. Watch this guy. He's so fucked up. I have no idea what I was going to see. I would like to watch him stumble and not know where he is. I hope old buddy's okay. I hope he's okay, too.
Starting point is 02:12:43 Yeah. But these plays last the rest of the game. That one play. Isn't he defenseless? Couldn't you say he's defenseless when he comes in there? I mean, it looks like he's looking right at him. He's engaged. He's looking right at him.
Starting point is 02:12:58 Good Lord. The D lineman's defenseless. Hey, don't say that out loud. People are listening. They'll make a rule. It'll ruin the game more. Yeah, seriously. Oh, my. Just make the game a little softer,, don't say that out loud. People are listening. They'll make a rule. It'll ruin the game more. Yeah, seriously. Oh, my.
Starting point is 02:13:06 I mean, this. Just make the game a little softer. Why don't we? You can't go high-low, right? Can't go high-low. Got to go high. But you can certainly. We can go high-high.
Starting point is 02:13:14 Golly. Golly. How good is that? All right. That's good. That guy got a visceral. Hey, hope you're okay, pal. And good luck.
Starting point is 02:13:22 There's literally nothing you can do. Literally nothing. That was going to happen. And that's what happens when you play football, by the way. Exactly. There's literally nothing you can do. Literally nothing. That was going to happen. And that's what happens when you play football, by the way. Yeah. Exactly. There's moments like that that are going to take place. I'm happy I played my position.
Starting point is 02:13:31 You can try to play my position as well. You won't have to deal with that. Some positions, though, that's going to take place. We don't love that that's the outcome, but it's a fucking great sport. It's football, baby. It's a fucking great sport. Sorry, bud. It is a great sport.
Starting point is 02:13:42 Here's another one. Hey, we got one more in here. Oh, a little positive for Tampa Bay. Whoa. Positive for Tampa Bay. Sorry, bud. This is a great sport. Here's another one. Hey, we got one more in here. Oh, a little positive for Tampa Bay. A little positive for Tampa Bay. Okay. Hey. And also a little positive for the guy I trained a little bit. Oh.
Starting point is 02:13:54 Bobby Hainsey. Oh, it's a business decision. It's a good one. Do you need any O-lineman tricks? I need your guys' opinion on this one. I feel real good about it. The reason why I like it is it's on a linebacker as opposed to the DB that we normally see on the quick wide receiver screens.
Starting point is 02:14:12 Here we go. We're going to get the quick little throwout. He has number three. Number three counting from outside, corner, slot. Linebacker's usually number three. Talky, talky. He's got his target locked. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 02:14:22 Oh, baby. Oh, no. Talky. Oh, boy. Oh, baby. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Boom! What do we think? Well, he fell to a knee before he hit him. Yeah, he damn near blew his knee out.
Starting point is 02:14:36 That's a big bump. That's a pretty good shot. Hands to the face, maybe. Hey, relax. Relax up there. That's a great play. I know why you brought it up because of how athletic he looks, but also I know you wanted to say something about it.
Starting point is 02:14:52 How violent he looks. Yeah, he looks great base, good balance, but can you talk about that guy real quick? Yeah. Tough one, but the great one somehow managed to only miss three to four weeks on how gruesome that injury looked, didn't it? Do we have the video of that play? Yeah, I got it.
Starting point is 02:15:13 Here, we'll run that. I don't have the piano on it, so you would have to. Injury, exactly. They're saying ankle, three to four weeks, which tells me some form of a high ankle, right? It looks so much worse. It looks real bad. They motion him into the backfield, obviously give him a tell
Starting point is 02:15:27 what the coverage is, man or zone. He comes, jumps for some crazy reason. Oh, my gosh. And then falls on the outside of his leg. Watch. I mean, this is yikes. Oh, no. Absolute stud to be able to come out of this.
Starting point is 02:15:40 How? How is that only three to four weeks? Because he's a tough son of a bitch. Nice throw. Iowa Hawkeye. That's right. He's one of Kirk's dogs. That's right.
Starting point is 02:15:48 He's one of the best in the game, right? Very young. Between him and Lane Johnson, two best right tackles in the game. Jeez Louise. So props to him for only being out three to four weeks. Look forward to seeing you back soon. Tristan Work. And also, congrats to Hainsey, huh?
Starting point is 02:16:00 Having a hell of a season. Way to go, Bob. Great training in the offseason. AQ Shipley Enterprises. That's good. The old, huh? Having a hell of a time. Way to go, Bob. Great training in the offseason at AQ Shipley Enterprises. That's good. The old shipyard. AQE. Come on out to the shipyard.
Starting point is 02:16:10 Yeah, that's a gym, huh? That's a gym. Hey, he's got a nice gym. No, it's not his fight club. He's still got the fight club as well. He's got a nice gym that he's on. The shipyard, he calls it. That's a good name.
Starting point is 02:16:21 You've got to be in Arizona. AQ, have you ever gone to L.A LA to go Unbreakable so you can train with Jay in person there? No, I haven't. I heard that Jim's nice. Lane goes out there. A lot of those O-linemen go out there. I've been in there. You've been in there? Randy Couture. I've trained in Unbreakable, Jim. Nice. Is he back from Qatar yet? Who?
Starting point is 02:16:38 Jay. Hope he makes it back. I don't know. Are they all over there? I haven't seen him on the broadcast. I thought he tweeted that he was just staying forever. He loves it so much. There's some numbers coming out of Qatar. Yeah, be careful, Jay. 20 million people watch England and U.S. on Friday. I don't think that's what he's talking about.
Starting point is 02:16:54 No. But remember what James Cameron was asking how much it cost? He was talking about the 5,000 dead migrant workers who are underneath one of the stadium we're playing in right now. Did they say that? No. No. 400 to 500, but, you know, generally I think you can add another zero to that. We know.
Starting point is 02:17:10 Could add two zeros safely. We know. Safely. We know he said that. It's not the only thing they lied about leading up to this tournament, huh? What? Well, you know, there's a lot going on with this tournament. And just like Aaron won the COVID MVP,
Starting point is 02:17:24 this would be the right time for the United States to win a World going on with this tournament. And just like Aaron won the COVID MVP, this would be the right time for the United States to win a World Cup. Goddamn right. The Cutter Cup. Why not us? Be 3-0 in World Wars. It is halftime. It's one zip.
Starting point is 02:17:35 Christian Pulisic's in. Incredible in the trenches today. Hey, baby, AQ. Thank you, AQ, for that. Thank you, guys. Boys, incredible show today. We appreciate you so much. And by we, I mean like me and the people that watch because getting a chance to watch you guys work is so fantastic every day. Boys, incredible show today. We appreciate you so much. And by we, I mean like me and the people that watch,
Starting point is 02:17:47 because getting a chance to watch you guys work is so fantastic every day. Tone, great breakdown of the gumbling earlier, man. Thank you. Honestly, you made us a better gumbler. Yeah, you did great today. Bet against Russ. I didn't say that for you to say that. No, I know. Don't do that.
Starting point is 02:17:57 But I wanted to. Yeah, but don't. I don't like compliments. Me neither. So fucking keep them to yourself. I don't think we should ever compliment each other. I agree, Tone. Let's just save it for a rainy day.
Starting point is 02:18:08 And guess what? It's always sunshine and rainbows in here. And a thunderdome maybe, but not outside. We're about to hit the, we haven't seen the sun for six months time. Cold front's coming. We're about to enter the, why the fuck do we live in Indiana? Come on out. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:18:21 That's what this guy did. Yeah, that's exactly. Oh, yeah. You want to talk about your state. What did they do, Tony? Hold on. I must be misinformed because I thought they just fixed the greens on every golf course in Arizona. I could open my eyes to some stings.
Starting point is 02:18:37 What was that? What kind of things? What kind of things, dude? I'll call you. I'll call you after. We'll fucking. Oh, God. Save us for a radio.
Starting point is 02:18:44 You're going to censor yourself now, Tony. What did you read? I haven't done my own research. I'm not just going to fucking talk about this off of his fucking research. I've got to do my own. You look up your own internet reports. Yep. Great work by everybody in the back.
Starting point is 02:18:58 Fantastic work. Thanks for coming to the game last night. Hope you guys had a blast. Congrats to the Steelers getting a big time win. I've got a lot of friends over there. Hell yeah. It's fun. Hope you guys had a blast. Congrats to the Steelers getting a big-time win. I got a lot of friends over there. Hell yeah. It's fun. More friends at the Colts. Well, I feel like more Steelers came up. Are we sure? I'll tell you what.
Starting point is 02:19:11 Are we sure? Back at the players, coaches side, a lot more friends on the Steelers team. Building, though, so many more. It's an interesting...
Starting point is 02:19:27 We were trying to say hi to someone last night. He just kept fucking walking with his $500 haircut. Oh, Conti. We started chanting for Conti. You know who Conti is, right? He's Colts PR guy? PR guy? It's not his name. What?
Starting point is 02:19:42 Matt? Matt is his name. Matt Conti is his name. What? Matt? What? Matt is his name. Matt Conte is his name. PSU guys. He's Penn State cult. Yeah, he's a part of that. All right. I believe his dad.
Starting point is 02:19:52 What years? Those years. Tell you that much. He was like third in PR command whenever I was playing. So he had to do all the work and got none of the credit. Did he do PR at Penn State? That had to be a... No, no, no. All those guys got fired, actually.
Starting point is 02:20:09 Talk about some adversity. No, no, no. I think Conte's dad was a PR guy in the NFL. So I think Conte, as soon as he got out of college, went straight to bottom level, as bottom level as you could possible in the NFL. So whenever he got with the Colts, he was third in command, but he had to do basically
Starting point is 02:20:26 all the bullshit work at that point. So he was the one who had to come and talk to me all the time. So me and him developed a relationship through those interactions of him representing the team, the general manager, and the thoughts from the team, the general manager, on whatever I tweeted or whatever I'd put out. So Conte had to have these conversations. And I've not deleted anything that I've got in fine for or whatever. So I think people know how I am now.
Starting point is 02:20:54 Like, I have pretty good belief in everything that I say, like solid belief in everything that I say. And I'm not really one that's just going to be like, oh, yeah, you're right. Like, that's just not how I'm necessarily wired. Like if I'm wrong, cool. Cool, I'll eat it. I will learn from it. I will acknowledge it.
Starting point is 02:21:13 I will move on. But if you can't get me off of, like, me being it, it's going to be tough. So Conte had to do all those convos with me for, like, the last couple years, and me and him obviously developed a relationship through that whole thing because I respected the position in which he was placed and what he had to do. And that's how normally how our conversation started was him saying, I am not necessarily the person that made this decisions, uh, this decision. They don't let me make decisions.
Starting point is 02:21:42 I am being told that this is the exact problem with what happened here. It's like, all right, here we go. I would have to respond. I respect your position with having to be the middle person here, and this is how I respond. So you can run that up. He goes, I can't do that. I can't say that.
Starting point is 02:21:59 I'm like, I don't know. I don't know what else. Figure it out. So being able to Develop a relationship We were on a USO tour together Over to Japan Got a chance to have
Starting point is 02:22:09 Some drinks with him Over there Now he is the PR guy For the Colts And he is the right He is fucking He's been there Like he's been there
Starting point is 02:22:15 Through all of it And he might have got A little bit too big For his britches You see him He had like a $5,000 Tailored suit on last night Hair looked fantastic
Starting point is 02:22:23 Monday Night Football I heard they're serving St. Elmo's up in the press box because Conti ordered it for everybody to have a good time. Conti had a big night last night. Then we were trying to chant his name. He was five yards in front of us. Yeah, clearly heard us. Conti, Conti, Conti. Knows our suites there.
Starting point is 02:22:42 And we were being a little rowdy, but everybody was. It was fucking Monday Night Football. We're having a good time. We're loud. He knows our suites there. And we were being a little rowdy, but everybody was. It was fucking Monday Night Football. We're having a good time. We're loud. He knows our suites there. Blows us off. Right into the town. What's that all about, AJ?
Starting point is 02:22:53 I don't know. I guess he's got a job to do. He doesn't want to come over and mingle. I mean, you get players on the field. I see Fryermuth over there flexing at digs every single series. That was crazy. He needed to relax, too. I'm paying attention to him, okay? Good guy, though.
Starting point is 02:23:08 I'm a big fan of his. I'm a big fan of his after what he did last night. I guess later, I'd already left. Apologize to everybody. I watched you on the way home. I guess it was a later time when Fryermuth got this other dude named Gentry, I think his name is.
Starting point is 02:23:25 They got a 6'7 guy. I guess there was a later time where Friar Muth got this other dude named Gentry, I think. Zach Gentry, yeah. They got a 6'7 guy. He's massive. This Gentry guy. So big. He's bigger than the fucking tackle. He's standing in the huddle in front of us there, and it was like this. It was like this, and then literally the fucking like a movie character.
Starting point is 02:23:42 He's listed at 6'8". 6'8". Holy shit. He's so large. I don't know why they don't do more with him. He's listed at 6'8". 6'8". Holy shit. He's so large. I don't know why they don't do more with him. He's in there quite a bit. They like to run the two tights with him and Mew. That's a smart idea. You got a guy that's 6'8". The other team don't. That's just an easy way to... Two tights.
Starting point is 02:23:56 No, he does not. Sounds genius. Two tights? Yeah, two tight ends. Sounds genius. Got two. Use them. Colts should do that. That's where I was going with that. Why aren't they doing anything? What is the deal? And how come none of them are saying what's up to us?
Starting point is 02:24:10 We're down there yelling pretty loud. Yeah. Might be time to jump ship, I'd say. No. What is your problem? Something to think about. What is your problem? Something to think about.
Starting point is 02:24:20 Matt Ryan gave me one of these warm-ups. Oh, sweet. Was he throwing the ball with two fingers, too? Jesus Christ, this fucking guy. Troy. Troy was not impressed with their passing attack. I didn't say. So the internet was telling me that Troy was being a bit cynical of the Indianapolis Colts.
Starting point is 02:24:36 But that happens every game. People say that. You caught that? Sounds like you heard the same thing? Yeah, at one point he said, yeah, throwing the ball is pretty tough if you've got a horseshoe on your helmet tonight, or something like that. Jesus. I mean, Tony, he's mentioned it before, it's not as
Starting point is 02:24:52 if the Steelers' pass defense is top of the league. Minka had a hell of a night. He's unbelievable. So, Matt Ryan, you're going into the season next year, he's a starter, right, because he's under contract for like three years. What's going on?
Starting point is 02:25:08 Did Ebby get cream-pied again by old buddy? Yeah. Did you see the fight? They got into a fight. Yeah, good crap, boy. I've never been cream-pied, AJ, all right? Okay, folks. I hope not.
Starting point is 02:25:20 I only beat his ass. That's all that happened. Oh, so you're cream-pying him. Yeah. No, air blue. cream pie-ing him. Yeah. No, air blue. Air blue doesn't cream pie. Blue blue cream pies. Thank you, Diggs.
Starting point is 02:25:31 Oh, there's another one? Whatever the case, we need to... How many are there? You got air pied. 25 of them. Also fucking blue blue cream pie, Vic the Viking. He got his ass beat, okay? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:25:42 Hey, Victor the Viking, I want to let you know, we watched a little competition between you and Blue last night on the Jumbotron. Uh-oh. Victor got smoked. It was bad. And I like Victor. Everybody knows I like Victor more than the next guy. Of course.
Starting point is 02:26:00 Certainly in this room more than the next guy. Definitely. Because of what Victor has done. And the Vikings have been fantastic. And Victor, I have loved everything about how he has acted about everything. more than the next guy. Definitely. Because of what Victor has done. And the Vikings have been fantastic. And Victor, I have loved everything about how he has acted about everything. He's a good guy. That was a bad look for him last night on that jumbotron in front of 75,000 people. Can't have that look.
Starting point is 02:26:16 Hey, Blue baby-faced himself hard editing that video. Big time. Victor got smoked by Blue. Yes, he did. Blue might be the most athletic mascot. What were they doing, though? What was the competition? Challenges. Yes, he did. Blue might be the most athletic mascot. What were they doing, though? What was the competition? Challenges.
Starting point is 02:26:27 Obviously, TikTok challenges. Like throwing footballs, bouncing ping pong balls. Yeah, and then the take two. Dude, perfect. Fun stuff. Cream pie. Yeah. I don't think there was any cream pie.
Starting point is 02:26:35 No. Everybody needs to relax. Oh, no, no. It was slime. Slime. Slime. Oh, slime pie. Slime everywhere from both.
Starting point is 02:26:43 Similar. It was a slime pie. It was a slime pie. It's everywhere. All right, great show, everybody. Honestly, slime pie. Slime pie. Slime everywhere from both of them. Similar. It was a slime pie. It was a slime pie. It's everywhere. All right, great show, everybody. Honestly, one of our worst. We'll move on to tomorrow. United States is going to win.
Starting point is 02:26:52 That's great news. Christian Pulisic scored. We're on. Let's go, USA. Come on. Thank you. Great work today, pal. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:27:00 Thank you. Appreciate it. Big thanks to Aaron for stopping by on this beautiful Tuesday. AJ, great work from the attic over there. Everybody in the back, great work. Hammer. Dad. He's in 15 minutes at youtube.com forward slash hammer.
Starting point is 02:27:11 Dad. That's D-A-H-N-N. Dad. A lot of yelling. People probably, you know, that's the choreography. Right. Exactly. Before we went live, we called AJ up aj up and said hey to sign off this show
Starting point is 02:27:26 we're going to do a hammer dad promo and this is how it's going to go whenever we say hammer know that there's about seven more hammer guys coming so let's get done with some hammer done in 15 minutes at youtube.com forward slash hammer done. Good show today, huh? Great show today. What are you guys betting on? Well, tonight there's college basketball. There's NBA. Texas is playing, right?
Starting point is 02:27:57 There's NHL. Yeah. We're unbelievable. Pretty good ball team. Now, I haven't followed them as closely as I did the first few weeks of the season. Sure. I need to invest back into that program. Still getting going. Wait till Big 12 slate starts. We're good ball team. No, I haven't followed them as closely as I did the first few weeks of the season. Sure. I need to invest back into that program. Still getting going.
Starting point is 02:28:06 Wait until Big 12 slate starts. We're good, though. Yeah. Are they playing at home? You going to see them this weekend? You'll be all in. In the mood? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:28:12 In the moody? Because if they're playing at home, you might as well just parlay them in the Bruins. Because both those teams can't lose at home. What's up, AJ? Are you talking about the moody center? What number are you? What number are you? I'm a coach.
Starting point is 02:28:22 You coaches don't have numbers. Ass clown. Wow. Welcome to basketball. Remember when I said there was a game tonight You coaches don't have numbers. Ass clown. Wow. Welcome to basketball. Remember when I said there was a game tonight? I don't think there is. Oh. A Texas game?
Starting point is 02:28:29 Yeah. I was about to say, because they only posted the six-shoe game that they have this morning. They got a couple big ones, though. They got number seven, Creighton, on Thursday, and they got number 16, Illinois, next Tuesday. Oh. Hey, sorry about it. Seven's about to become 10, and then 16's about to become unranked after the fucking Texas men's basketball team comes through.
Starting point is 02:28:46 Sorry about it, Creighton. Sorry about it, Illinois. We got dogs on our team. Let's go, boys. Alright, let's get the fuck out of here, huh? We should do a giveaway. AQ. Some putts. You want a putt? I want to see someone make
Starting point is 02:29:02 a couple putts. Putts tough, dude. Putts are tough. Thank you for acknowledging. AQ's got a great stroke. Thank you for acknowledging that. Acknowledging what? That putts are tough. It's not that hard. These putts are tough.
Starting point is 02:29:13 I actually have. Putt off. They're very rough. Whoa. You almost put a ball in the hole accidentally. There's a goal one down there, too. Yep. L1.
Starting point is 02:29:23 Depending on how you look at it. All right, AQ. How many do you think you're going to make? Honestly. You got a Navy SEAL shirt on. You had it great in the trenches. America's playing. America's playing.
Starting point is 02:29:34 We're up over Iran. This isn't even Argo. You're trying to make it, Argo. Argo, fuck yourself. What's the slope? A little right to left here? That side? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:29:45 It changes daily. It's straight. How many do you? A little right to left here? That side? Yeah. It changes daily. It's straight. How many you want? CFO Phil was in here this morning. Remember the last time he came in, people were not able to make anything. Want to go three? Phil drained a shot yesterday to get 20 winners of $500. Now three out of five
Starting point is 02:30:01 will win 10 people $500 who retweet this. Alan Quay Shipley, a man, don't you? Ten feet out. Oh, man, he's got to hit the ball. I didn't hit it. I didn't hit it. No, you didn't.
Starting point is 02:30:12 That's a good layup. That's okay. Stampdator's reading at about four or five. AQ's handicap is somewhere between ten and thirty. Oh, it's a hard break. That was a hard break. Three for five. Has to go.
Starting point is 02:30:25 Three for three on the final three. Ten winners of $500. A.Q. Shipley. This is embarrassing. Goes. Nice. Oh. You can knock that in, though.
Starting point is 02:30:37 Take two like in Cornhole. We will count it like Cornhole. If you're able to drag that golden ball into the hole with another putt. Gotta hit it hard. No chance. Hit it hard, pull it big. No chance. Readable like a book. That is so bad. This guy stinks.
Starting point is 02:30:55 A.Q. Shipley ends up going one for five. Oh, wow. Bullshit. There's a little ridge right here. Football's. Good shot, AQ. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:31:08 Good shoot. Way to go. Thanks for everything, AQ. That was horrible. We should come back the other way maybe from now on. AQ Shipley now has an opportunity to go to a five the opposite direction. If he does as such, five people will win.
Starting point is 02:31:27 It's got to go there. He's thinking less thinking, more putting. I've been on this hole all day, Pat. Most players have been missing it to the right. Will AQ penetrate the hole? Miss to the right, just like Dan Diggs said.
Starting point is 02:31:46 AQ, you ever try a belly putter? No. These are good putts, AJ. These are good putts. They're not. I'm glad you don't. I think it's weird. None of them have gone in.
Starting point is 02:31:56 Christ almighty, dude. What the fuck? Good touch, though, man. These are good putts, he said. Just two bad putts ago. There it is. What? That's a good putt. And that's a good putts, he said. Just two bad putts ago. There it is. Hey, here we go. That's a good putt.
Starting point is 02:32:09 Has he found the stroke? Has he found the line? It's not that hard. A.Q. Shipley. Oh, no. That was a good putt. Rolls one into the sand trap if this is a PGA green. Like Tata.
Starting point is 02:32:25 I pushed it. Oh, no. These are all good putts. One for ten. Probably would have been out for ten. Yeah. Stank. Stank.
Starting point is 02:32:39 Stunk. It's a good thing little Phil made up for it yesterday. That's right. 20 winners. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, you're right. Hey, you had a great in the trenches. Let's not get that confused.
Starting point is 02:32:47 Good job. While you were doing in the trenches, the United States scored. Yep. That's all about it. It was a great Tuesday. Come on. Broke some news. It's a great Tuesday.
Starting point is 02:32:57 Huge Tuesday. Had some good combos. It's a great Tuesday. Great Tuesday. Let's have a better Wednesday, huh? Hell yeah. Let's watch Hammer die. We'll see you tomorrow.
Starting point is 02:33:05 Goodbye.

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