The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 806 - US Men's National Team Midfielder Kellyn Acosta, Jeff Passan, Vikings HC Kevin O'Connell, Jordan Poyer, Everything DB With Darius Butler LIVE From The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk
Episode Date: December 7, 2022On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about everything happening around the NFL including Von Miller getting season ending ACL surgery, Jimmy G potentially being back for t...he NFC Championship if rehab goes well and everything else happening around the league as we approach week 14. Joining the progrum to chat about his experiences at this years World Cup is LAFC Midfielder and US Men’s National Team member, Kellyn Acosta (20:07-35:07). Later, ESPN MLB Insider Jeff Passan joins the progrum to chat about Aaron Judge’s new contract with the Yankees and the MLB hot stove (1:20:28-1:40:15). Later, Vikings Head Coach Kevin O’Connell joins the show to chat about the Vikings success thus far this year and why they haven’t earned anything yet (1:46:55-1:58:12). Also joining the show is All-Pro safety for the Buffalo Bills, Jordan Poyer to chat about the Von Miller news, Josh Allen being a tough SOB, and the Bills upcoming game against the Jets (2:29:24-2:40:44). Lastly, Darius Butler breaks down the best defensive back play of the weekend in his weekly Everything DB segment (2:40:46-3:36:18). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hello, beautiful people. It is Winter Wednesday, December 7th, 2022.
And this sports show that's incredibly dumb starts right now.
Football!
It is certainly brewing. Football is never going to stop having things to talk about.
And there is a lot to dive into, including the fact that Baker Mayfield is now a Los Angeles Ram.
I believe he's wearing number 17. If Dirty's IG story is ringing anywhere near true,
he will now potentially be playing for the Rams immediately at the quarterback position.
That is what was being said. Who knows how quick he will be to take that la ram offense and be able to apply it on the
field but mcveigh now with the loss of matthew stafford who has a spinal contusion i believe
after a couple concussions and everybody seemingly assuming that his season is over
does that mean his career is over his season is over i hope not matthew stafford hell of a run if
it is congratulations on a hell of a run, Matthew Stafford.
Submitted a Hall of Fame legacy with a Super Bowl win there at the end.
Everybody say, couldn't win when it mattered, couldn't win when it mattered.
Detroit couldn't win when it mattered.
Turned into be the conversation. But maybe now with the brand new lines, there's a chance that will happen.
But nonetheless, Baker Mayfield now potentially Sean McVay's new quarterback
after Wolford and Perkins.
They have kind of had a carousel of quarterbacks.
Whenever Matthew Stafford hasn't played now,
maybe Baker will start for them going forward.
Congrats to Baker Mayfield.
What a come up here.
Yeah, way to go, Baker.
So he goes from Cleveland, obviously,
taking a lot less money to go over to Carolina to prove himself.
Then that didn't work out for one reason or another. Who knows? He was
headbutting people with his hat on while they were wearing helmets, trying to show that he was still
into the game, even though he wasn't playing. Wanted to let the world know I've become a better
teammate, even though people think I don't think I was a bad teammate to begin with, but would like
people to know that I've conscientiously thought about becoming a better teammate, maturing,
handling the situation that it was in Carolina where he was a backup
and he wasn't playing, he was doing his thing.
So publicly trying to tell people, like, I've evolved, I've grown.
Now, he asked for his release from the Carolina Panthers.
They said, sure.
Everybody's like, oh, he's going to the Niners, he's going to the Niners.
Kyle Shanahan said, I think we're actually pretty good.
We got a guy, we'll look into anything, though.
And then whenever Rappaport came on, he started dropping some names to some teams. Maybe the
Texans, maybe the Colts, maybe the Rams, he said. Also with the Rams being in the same division or
whatever, and obviously being rivals, not a bad play so that a Baker Mayfield, formerly number
one overall pick or whatever, can become a Ram as opposed to become a Niner who, you know, would
be a thorn in the side of the Niners if they weren't able to get Baker Mayfield,
which is why I believe Shanahan said, I don't think that's going to happen at all.
Nonetheless, Niners-Rams, incredible rivalry.
Rams get Baker Mayfield.
Does this change anything this year?
We don't know.
A lot of people say, is that going to help?
And we shall see.
And that's where Baker Mayfield's career has come to.
That's not how we feel.
That's an actual feeling from people.
Good luck to Baker as a Los Angeles fan.
Good luck, Baker.
Go get him.
There's a lot of other shit to bullshit about,
and I can't wait to do it all day today with the talks at the table at
Boston Connor, at Ty Schmidt, one half of the hammer.
Don!
Cowboys, Tony Diggs.
The show's going great over there.
There you go, Tony.
New studio.
You're doing a fantastic job.
The hat looks great.
And joining us like he has all season, every single Wednesday and Thursday,
hosted a man-to-man podcast with Antoine Bethea, who is a finalist for the Black College Football Hall of Fame.
I think he finds out today whether or not he gets in there.
Hosts alongside him for the man-to-man podcast.
Host of Everything DB, which we'll watch here today, and NFL matchup show, Darius Butler.
Good luck to Antoine Bethea. Yeah. Host of Everything DB, which we'll watch here today, and NFL Matchup Show, Darius Butler. Darius Butler.
Good luck to Antoine Bethea.
Yeah.
A lot of people who know him call him A.B., but there's another A.B. running around on the internet right now.
Yeah, that's right.
In the world.
That is not the A.B. we're talking about.
So, that's Antonio Brown.
Antoine Bethea went to Howard.
I believe he's up for the Black College Football Hall of Fame.
You'll find out today.
Good luck, dude.
Good luck.
Should be a shoe-in, man.
Should be a shoe-in.
I think so, with everything he's accomplished.
I don't know what the accolades are to go in there.
I do believe I'm ruled out from that particular Hall of Fame.
But I think he is the right guy that you would want to have represent your everything.
And congrats, Antoine, on that.
Let's talk about you, though, pal.
Let's chit-chat about a couple of the things.
You know, a former teammate of ours, Andrew Luck,
had his first talk with the media, and it was a man by the name of Seth...
Wicker Sham.
The A is on a soft A.
It's a hard A in the second.
Wicker Sham.
Who you hear New England folks give a little bit more energy to because the things
that seth wicker sham has said about the entire patriot situation is obviously one that's turned
off some of the mass holes in such but this is really my first baptism into who seth wicker sham
is i i couldn't understand what the fuck he was saying i i read a couple of the quotes
uh that were pictured and put alongside the tweets.
It was Andrew Luck, so I was pumped to learn about it
because obviously I think he was an incredible football player,
loved watching him play.
And I got to experience the whole ride of Andrew a little bit,
I think from the inside and from the outside at the same damn time,
which is cool.
So I was excited to hear him speak.
I was surprised he picked Seth Wicker to be
the person who he talked to.
Honestly, that was very surprising to me. I think him and
Matt Hasselbeck, like very, very,
very tight. I think.
I'm not 100% sure. Matt and Seth?
No, not Wicker. Sham!
No, Matt and Luck. Yep.
Very tight because he was the backup. So I always just assumed
that it would come through a Matt Hasselbeck
conversation or some other relationship that he had that we would learn and hear about the Andrew Luck story.
Instead, it came through Seth Wicker.
And I wasn't able to read it because I read one portion of it live on the show yesterday.
And everybody said, I didn't understand what the fuck he was saying.
The word, the way he was writing, I felt like he was trying to make sure I did not read what he was writing.
But I heard and listened to everybody.
What was your take on the story?
Did you read it?
It was like a 45-minute read or something like that.
A lot of words, a lot of.
You got to copy and paste and look up what words mean.
I mean, there's a lot of gymnastics that you had to do.
Super smart people talking to each other, both Seth Wicker and Andrew Luck, very smart people.
What are your thoughts on it?
What you've heard about it, at least?
And did you read that thing?
I did not read it.
Wow.
I did read it.
Bad journalism.
I haven't read it yet, so I can't give a full feedback on it.
But obviously, Andrew, complicated individual,
different individual, great teammate.
I thought so too.
I've talked to him a few times since retiring.
Every time I spoke with him, he just speaks so glowingly about being a father,
being at home, obviously being a husband.
So as long as Drew is happy, man, that's all that really matters
in the grand scheme of things.
Obviously, the way he retired, we talked about Vontae last week when I was here.
Obviously, he had a surprising retirement.
Andrew obviously did as well.
But if I had to choose two teammates who would retire in different fashions,
it would be those two individuals for two very different reasons.
But I'm just – hopefully he's happy, he's fulfilled.
That's really all that matters at this point.
It sounds like being the father and being the husband was a big part of it.
I, too, did not read it.
I will not.
It's impossible.
I'll give it a shot.
Okay.
And I will be very thankful when you do that,
and I'll be excited to pick your brain on what you took in.
Because for me, it took Ty 35.
That guy got into Harvard.
It took him 35 minutes to read it, okay?
And then when I asked Ty, why was – is that what it's all like?
And he started to use, it's all convoluted, and this is his writing style.
And then Brucie Brown, who's our suit, our yup, who grew up, like, I think,
reading newspapers potentially and, like, what they used to do.
He goes, his writing style – Bruce did a full breakdown of Seth Wicker writing style and how he does fragmented sentences.
And then he'll take you on a ride a little bit.
And then he'll drop in some fucking high intellect stuff.
And then there's no real payoff at the end.
You're just kind of jumping back into the story.
It's just kind of keeping you guessing.
I'm not a good enough reader.
I don't think I'm a good enough reader for the guy.
And that's what I read yesterday.
But I am happy I have smart people that are going to do it.
Darius, can't wait to hear what you have to say.
Do you have any different take now after hearing other people's reaction to the article?
Because when something's that long, different people are going to take different things from it.
That's why, let's say, the NFL changes the rule.
Let alone in the actual real world, the politics world that makes laws and shit like that.
But let's just do it for our world.
The NFL makes a rule.
Somebody reads through the rule changes,
and then that person decides what everybody needs to hear about, right?
Like, hey, this is what you need to know about.
This is what you need to know about.
So naturally, if you're not reading an entire thing or watching an entire thing
and you're just taking somebody else's opinion on something,
they're already picking and choosing what to tell you about have you heard anybody else's take on this article and what have you kind of uh now that you kind of slept on it for another day
your thoughts on the andrew luck saga which seemingly if i got this right from yesterday
he he was he was kind of put in a predicament with his wife, like an ultimatum,
like, hey, you're going to do this or we're going to do this.
And then something happens where the injury takes place,
where his life was going to become what it was like when it was at its worst,
I guess, between him and his wife.
He was given an ultimatum, either retire or get a divorce, basically,
is what he was saying.
Is that still how we feel about it? And has other people said that?
Is that what everybody else kind of took from it as well?
Yeah, kind of.
And I think a lot of people, the big takeaway was like what D-Butt said.
Like he seems like he's happy and that he's not like struggling with the choice all these years after.
Only thing that matters at the end of the day.
Exactly.
And I don't know if it was, I can't remember if it was in the article or if it was like a follow-up to it.
But he did mention that with his retirement, the one thing that he kind of like regrets was the timing of it like how it was so quick right before the season started and
but also like the injury came at that point he was just realizing he was potentially going to
have to go through what he was going to have to go through what he had gone through before
so him and his wife are having open conversations i assume like oh this is what life's going to
become is why now that you got an injury, this is what life's going to become.
Now that you've got an injury, and this is also happening middle of the season,
this is now what life is going to become for me.
She might have said to him or whatever, and that's why he decided he had to do it.
It was a rough patch for 12 because, obviously, I was a teammate for five
or six years, and it was a time where he was away from the facility,
you know, going to Europe, trying to get treatment, coming back,
and, you know, not really knowing the real timeline.
But I remember vividly, like, just sitting down at, like,
the breakfast table one day just talking to him.
You could just see it over him.
But then when I saw him come back and have that great season,
revamp offensive line, I'm like, okay, okay, I think he's back.
You know, kind of Andrew Luck 2.0.
And then to see him retire like that was obviously tough.
But him getting booed when he retired, obviously I understand the fans,
you know, the fans that did boo him, how they felt.
It's fourth quarter preseason game, too.
We've got to remember that.
I'm kind of feeling we might be cursed since that.
Oh.
It's been really, really shitty.
Like that angle.
That is interesting, isn't it?
Since we gave 12 that exit.
So maybe everybody needs to write a handwritten apology to 12
and turn some things around.
Or we need to do whatever Peyton did with Jeff Daniels in the Detroit Lions,
Ford Field or whatever, because they've become that.
I understand what you're saying about the cursing of the team, and it might be.
People have tweeted me that before. Whenever I've talked about the cursing uh of the team and it might be people have tweeted me that before whenever i've talked about the calvin johnson curse in detroit i've
had some detroit fucked uh tweet me and be like have you guys won since you guys booed andrew
luck out of the building i'm like so yeah interesting actually hey that's a great question
that is a great question even so like espn on instagram you know put like a uh like a little you know slide through
of the story and a lot of comments in there from Colts fans like they haven't forgiven him you know
like and I don't know whether they read the story or not but like Pete that was kind of they're
lucky it was he's lucky and once again yeah reality okay where we live yep right here sure
most of us.
You're right.
There's different ways to, I guess, travel to different dimensions and stuff.
But that's their reality.
We're just talking about our reality here.
Right, on Earth.
Okay, we have this fairytale land, though, that we all are striving for
and wish for us to be able to live long enough to see where everybody has right intentions,
proper judgment, and have perspective of being able to zoom out from the moment and see what's
really happening. We all hope that'll happen someday. There's a lot of other things in that
fairytale land too. No judgment and opportunity and everything like that for everybody. And
we're hoping for that. We all are, but we got to talk about reality. If this was Pittsburgh or let's just say New England or Philadelphia
or where else could we go?
I guess Dallas.
Raiders.
Dallas.
A lot of places.
Nine days before you're the guy,
premier highest paid quarterback in the league.
And it goes through the stadium via a tweet from Adam Schefter.
Wow, that was wild.
That you are retired.
I mean, I think Indianapolis booed him.
And obviously, if that's why we're cursed football gods,
please hear me out.
Please hear me out.
Because those people that are at a game, preseason, fourth one, fourth quarter,
that game means less than nothing.
People can get hurt, so I guess that would mean something.
But the game itself, fourth quarter, fourth preseason game,
at that moment the people that are on that field, good luck wherever you're
working next or wherever you play next.
Probably not going to be for the team that you're at.
So those people probably pretty intoxicated still in that stadium.
Probably, let's assume, diehards of the Indianapolis Bulls.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Like the diest of diehards who are still there.
A lot of season ticket holders, yeah.
Probably kids too.
It was pretty packed.
I was there that night.
Yeah, you were there.
I mean, we just saw the photos of uh in the background it wasn't it wasn't let's not say full but there
was people there oh yeah more than probably most stadiums at that particular situation of what it
is so whenever i think group think starts happening you know and they're like you see what
their immediate reaction is fuck this guy i think so they boo him can't do it
can't have it would wish that those people would say oh man andrews must be in a bad spot he's
retiring nine days before a goddamn game and he's gotten his dick kicked in here as our quarterback
and he's given us a lot of good times in the post-payton manning era so i understood why
people booed just because if you think about the humans
that are going to be there at the moment.
But I think it could have been much worse elsewhere, football gods.
So why don't we think about that situation
and maybe start cursing some other people,
like the New England Patriots.
No, that wouldn't make any sense.
Yeah, like the New England Patriots.
That doesn't make sense.
Hey, football gods, think about what they would have done.
Hey, think about what they would have done
if nine days before the season started,
Tom Brady just signed a deal to be the, yeah, there it is, 928 PM.
Andrew Luck has informed the Colts he is retiring from the NFL per source.
There will be a press conference Sunday to make it official,
but Luck is mentally worn down and now checking out.
That last sentence there.
Now checking out.
That last sentence, yeah, exactly.
That last sentence there was not read by the people in the stadium.
No, no, no.
Luck is mentally worn down and now checking out.
They didn't get to that.
All they saw was Andrew Luck's informed call.
He's retiring from there.
There will be a press conference Sunday to make it official.
They didn't even see.
They didn't even see the last sentence.
Maybe.
That's what we can think about.
But football gods, think about what the Patriots fans would have done if that would have happened.
Oh, my God.
Fucking curse them.
And I don't know what you're talking about.
Packers fans are already saying, get that hippie the fuck out of town.
Football gods, think about what they would have done in Green Bay Lambeau.
I've been there for a preseason game.
That place is actually filled to the gills in the preseason over there.
Think about what they would have done.
And then let's not even start to talk about this fucking guy.
He would have deserved every single thing that would have happened to him.
Football gods, you hear that?
So, D-Bud, do you think that's enough to the football gods?
Would you state our case enough that if this was to happen elsewhere,
it would have been so much worse and they deserve to be cursed, not us?
Do you think that is being listened to or no?
Did you watch our last game?
Bro, so bad.
I don't think they listened.
33 to zip.
We got six more games to watch.
Primetime game, another Monday Night Football game.
We got another Monday Night Football game.
I think that might be part of the curse, too.
We got all these primetime games.
So the curse is like, here's your punishment.
Okay, here's your punishment.
And also, whole world's going to see it.
Oh, yeah.
Whole world's going to have to see it.
So, hey, maybe this is the end of it.
Maybe this is, you know, you get our last year's prime time.
Surprised he's not in the Ring of Honor, to be honest.
Who's that, Andrew?
I mean, he did take him to an AFC Championship game.
Yeah, he hung a banner in that stadium.
He fucking put a banner up there, damn right.
They need to take that down.
Yeah, that is definitely, that's a massive part.
We need to take that down.
That would help with the curse.
And if we're talking Andrew Luck, maybe read, you know, 10 books or something.
And then I think the one that would really reverse the curse is And if we're talking Andrew Luck, maybe read 10 books or something.
And then I think the one that would really reverse the curse is give all the taxpayers their money back because they paid for something.
That's every city.
Please.
Please. Please.
Bob Craft.
Nope.
Nope.
Nope.
Nope.
Nope.
Nope.
Nope.
Owner of the Patriots.
And this is why they don't get cursed by the football gods.
How do you get his money?
He started his own company and then bought his wife's father's company so he big dogged his you
know father i mean who can hate that that's unbelievable not to mention the head coach of
the team has dedicated his entire being to football football gods aren't cursing anybody
like that and when steve belichick's up next guess what they're gonna do football gods are
gonna reward him this is like a simba situation prince who was promised i mean that's what it is and that's who steve belichick is but yeah the colts they will never win anything
significant ever again unless they do those things and tank for arch manning and marvin harrison jr
did bob craft pay for the gillette stadium in 1999 the team officially announced that it would
remain in foxborough which led to gillette stadium's construction after the hartford
proposal fell through robert craft said fuck fuck it. I'll pay 100% of the construction costs.
Oh!
Instance of an NFL.
Oh!
That's big dog.
And ring!
That's big dog and awesome and also football guts.
Look at that.
1999, what happened shortly thereafter?
Oh.
Exactly.
What a nice little run.
Wow.
Oh, yeah.
That's weird.
Isn't it crazy?
You do the right thing.
Yeah, pay for your own stadium.
I mean, but let's think about it.
I mean, what happened after they started winning?
But when you pay for your own stadium, you can also put a weather machine in there.
Okay?
Yeah, sorry.
Hey, everyone should do it then.
Wait, did Mr. Ursa take Andrew Luck's money?
No, he paid him.
He has good vibes.
Yeah, well, that money is from the people though, Foxy.
You got to remember, that was kept in his pocket because he took it from the people who live in the city.
All right.
Let's pivot away from this.
That is awesome from Kraft.
Yeah.
I did not know that.
That's a big dick move.
Oh, yeah.
And that's all true too.
He started that company.
Tepper said, ah, I'm not doing it anymore and I'm filing bankruptcy.
Yeah.
Fuck your city.
Kraft's like, oh, you guys aren't paying for any of it?
I don't care.
Whatever.
I'll fucking do it.
Just bought my father-in-law's company.
Bang. Build it. Yeah, my father-in-law's company. Bang.
Build it.
Yeah, the Patriot place on there, too.
Yeah, I want a plaza over here with stores.
I mean, fuck, if I got to do this, I would like a casino and a hotel connected to it.
So everybody that comes here is giving money to who?
Me.
I'll pay for it.
You could have been a part of this city.
Yeah.
Okay, you could have been getting a piece of this.
You decided not to.
Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry about it.
Don't worry about it.
I got it.
Don't even worry about it.
I got it.
And then we're going to rattle off the best two decades in the history of the fucking NFL.
Wow.
What a run for Bob Kraft.
Yeah, he's an absolute dog.
And it'll be in the Kraft family for the next 200 years.
Okay, let's move away from football.
Sure.
And let's move into football.
That's right.
Now, I know it's called soccer to anybody that has a brain,
but I guess it originated as the sport of football.
Although the word soccer was created in England,
they certainly get pissed off whenever we say,
we're going to win the soccer Lombardi.
Sorry about it.
So whenever we were watching the soccer Lombardi,
we got a chance to see the U.S.
men's national team make it out of pool play,
make it into the round of 16,
ultimately get eliminated, but the boys showed
promise going into next
World Cup, which is back on
our home ground.
Joining us right now is a man who was on
that team, a man who has won two
CONCACAF Gold Cups, current MLS
Cup champion. Ladies and gentlemen, I think 53 caps for the U.S. men's national team. A man who has won two CONCACAF Gold Cups, current MLS Cup champion. Ladies and
gentlemen, I think 53 caps for
the U.S. Men's National Team,
Kellen Acosta.
What's up, man?
What's going on?
Hey, thank you for joining us, dude. Obviously
I followed you on the internet. Excited to have you
on the show. Thank you for taking time
out of your life to talk to us.
Yeah, of course, of course. Are you back? time out of your life to talk to us. Yeah, of course.
Are you back? What is it? Was the time zone change different? How much
different was the transition coming back home
and are you home right now?
I'm not home yet. I'm in New York,
but it was crazy.
It's an 11-hour time difference from LA
and eight hours from
here. It's been a crazy
last few days,
um,
running on no sleep right now.
So all good.
All good.
You're delusional.
So we'll be able to get some good shit out of here.
A little slap happy.
Um,
when you go over to,
obviously the last world cup,
you would have been a part of the pro or the team didn't qualify for the world
cup,
this world cup,
your first world cup.
It's in Qatar.
It's in Qatar.
What were you expecting
traveling there whenever it comes to like amenities and staying and life outside of the game and
practice fields and everything and what was it like over there how was the host country of qatar
because obviously all we hear outside is about the bad shit was it bad was it different than
anything or did you guys not care at all it's the world cup no i mean part of it is like
it's a childhood dream to be in a world cup so i was like i don't really care but at the same time
in qatar it was a beautiful country we had everything set up for us the amenities were
top notch everyone's super accommodating i mean it was i mean it was beautiful i mean we had our
players lounge cubby lab with all our equipment. The facilities were top.
So, I mean, from top to bottom, it was just a great experience all around.
So now everybody's going to say that you were forced to say that.
I mean, that's just a natural follow-up.
But you're saying it was a great experience
whenever it comes to tournaments and traveling for the national team
because you guys have to go to some places
that aren't necessarily set up to perfection, right,
whenever you're playing against some teams,
or am I wrong in thinking that?
Yeah, I mean, I guess you could say that.
I mean, comparatively to the U.S. for sure.
But, yeah, I mean, for the most part, we stay in nice hotels
and we have a pretty good setup where we're at.
Well, you deserve it.
Hey, let's talk about the team.
Let's talk about the team.
Let's talk about the games, okay? Because us untrained eyes watching soccer for the first time in four years a lot of people and like getting invested in it it seemed like we couldn't
score goals is that the big problem and how do we fix that going into the next world cup so we
fucking win this thing kellen yeah i mean scoring goals i mean it's it's not an easy thing to do um i guess it's just a credit
to the opposing teams that kind of just held us um scoreless in some games but um but overall i
mean yeah i mean we're looking to score some more goals come 26 and uh i know this would be a
tournament uh that everyone should be excited for was that england game one of those games where you
guys felt like you belonged
or did you go in thinking that you belonged?
No, we went into the game confidently,
and I think we just proved ourselves on the field.
I think we surprised a lot of people,
but I think it shouldn't have been a surprise to everyone.
I think we have so much quality and depth on our roster
that I'm just glad that we were able to showcase that um
you know on the world stage hell yeah hell yeah we're getting mocked for celebrating a draw but
boy the things that those english fans were saying about america going into that game disgusting
disgusting some of the memes on the internet i don't know if you guys saw it were you keeping
up with the internet while you guys were over there, or were you kind of locked in? No, I was locked in, dialed in.
That's smart.
That was a good idea.
No phones.
I've seen some stuff.
Okay, okay, okay.
Let's try to stay away from it.
It's all good, all good.
Remember, a lot of emotions representing the country.
You playing against England doing well.
This team being as deep as you're talking about,
do you think that's because there's a transition happening here in America?
For instance, you, I believe, you committed to Maryland.
I don't know if you ever went there.
You ended up being in, like, Dallas' organization, and you get pulled up.
And then you talk about Pulisic, who's been over in Germany, I think, or Italy, and now he's in England.
You can talk about Reyna, who's been over there in the academy throughout his teenage years,
and also I think Aronson's over there for Leeds.
And we've got a lot of American guys that are kind of coming up through academies now,
both stateside with the MLS and in Europe.
Do you think that is why we are getting much better at soccer?
And are we better than we've ever been and only getting better right now?
Yeah, a combination of all of that.
I think a lot of credit goes to the academy system.
So I think it's definitely been growing.
You know, O.R. has really been investing in that.
And then guys are really taking advantage of their opportunities and i think just as a talent level i think we got guys that are hungry guys that are really proving themselves going over to
europe and performing at a really high level and being key contributors to the respective clubs but
uh i think it just starts from the youth and just the players coming in i mean we have you know a lot of uh high quality players hell yeah we're winning soccer lombardi
ty has a question for you kellen go ahead yeah kellen it seems like for whatever reason at this
world cup a lot of like the traditional powers either didn't make it to the knockout stages or
there have been like a lot more upsets
than in years past why do you think that is and i know you guys didn't uh play them but did you get
a chance to maybe like see messy and say like hey when you get to the mls next year like i'm coming
for that okay i i didn't get a chance to see him but um but that's just the the beautiful game i
think upsets are a part of it and it it just shows that, I mean, every country is getting stronger
and that there aren't any clear favorites anymore.
It's kind of anyone's game.
And I think it's just great to see.
I think this World Cup has been super exciting.
And we all appreciate a good upset.
You've been a pro, I think, for nine years now.
Is that right?
Something like that, nine, ten years, something like that.
Wow.
Appreciate it. now is that right yeah something like that nine nine ten years something like that wow for the first um large portion i guess of your career did set bladder ever just go into your bank account and take money out of there or was that something i mean you said take money or give
me money no take take definitely take i don't know unfortunately he did it he did i check it
thoroughly so yeah i didn't see anything missing.
I'll tell you that.
Did you see a documentary on Netflix about the whole thing?
It's an interesting –
I watched a little bit of it.
We were watching it as a team actually in Qatar, surprisingly.
We watched it, but it was a little bit boring.
It was kind of slow at the start, so I didn't really finish it.
You guys got a call – call... It's all bad.
I don't think you missed anything. It gets worse, I guess,
the theft.
You can't deal with that. You can't worry about that
because it's literally a planet problem with how many
people are in FIFA. It's an interesting
power position
that the FIFA
president ends up in and why these
World Cups are so important, which is why when Qatar happens,
everybody's up in arms, everything bad comes out,
and then Kellen Acosta comes in and says,
hey, actually, pretty nice little amenity.
Please take care of us.
That's good news for FIFA, I think, as a whole
because of what potentially was going to happen going forward.
When you hear about Messi coming to the MLS
and you hear about, you know, Gareth Bale came over
and then Zlatan Ibrahimović comes over.
What do you think the future of the MLS looks like?
What do you think it looks like going forward?
Do you think it becomes a powerhouse?
I think it looks promising.
Obviously, we're going through that stereotype of, you know,
guys are coming in later into their careers,
but I think the guys that are coming in,
they've been really surprised at the level of the league,
and the league has definitely been growing,
and the league is, I think, hopefully will be a top league in the future,
but there's still some ways that we can progress,
but it's definitely trending positively.
Hell, yeah, and you're the champ.
Hey.
Let's go.
Yeah. Can I honor's go. Yeah.
Connor, your question?
Yeah, Kellen, they showed a bunch of stadiums before the World Cup started
with how there was air conditioning on the field,
and one of them was made out of shipping containers, I believe.
What was that like, and did the AC help,
and was it that hot out where you needed to have that
or else you wouldn't have been able to play?
No, the stadiums were wild, honestly they they did a great job um we we didn't get to play in all of
them but um but i mean they like for the shipping container there's like a tent one um there's one
that was like kind of like looking like a hat um i mean they like the architects went crazy on them
and then as far as like the ac went it almost was like it was too cold in the stadium.
It was weird.
We're not used to playing in an air-conditioned stadium,
so it was one of those things where I'm like,
do I need a long sleeve?
It was a little chilly,
but overall the weather there was actually really nice.
It wasn't really even too hot or anything like that,
so the AC wasn't even really needed.
Look at these stadiums.
Jeez.
Oh, wow.
These are all built obviously after the announcement
of the World Cup is going there.
There's the shipping containers
there up on top right, D, but I don't know if you can
see that. That lower left one looks
incredible. Yeah, sweet. That's the one they're breaking.
Yeah, that one's cool.
Which one did you play? Did you play in all these, or
did you guys play in one place? No, I only
played the top left and the bottom right, I believe.
I think there was only two from there.
I think there's eight stadiums, I think.
Oh, shit.
And then two others as well.
How far are you guys from the pool stadium?
I assume it's just your group in that stadium.
Is that how that goes or no?
No, we all play at different stadiums.
That's what makes guitar super unique and
really cool because as i as a fan perspective you can literally go to every stadium they're all
within 45 minutes oh so literally go to multiple games in a day so it's like actually like a really
cool experience for for for the for experience for the fans to watch games.
Did you feel like there was a good USA contingency there, crowd?
There was.
There was.
I mean, I was pleasantly surprised
because I know that the cost of going to Qatar was pretty expensive.
But we actually had a great turnout for all our games.
And credit to the traveling fans because we really felt them.
I, I believe, I believe that, I believe that we will win.
I believe that we will win.
Yeah, but not with energy.
Huh?
You got to jump up and down.
Yeah, but I just took an 11-hour flight to fucking Qatar.
Get off my ass.
Jeez Louise.
Darius, your question.
I got two questions, and they have absolutely nothing to do with each other.
But the first one, growing up in Texas, was there any chance of you playing American football?
And if so, which position?
And then secondly, I hear you're big into fashion, especially shoes.
I need your top three kicks right now in your collection.
Better not rhyme with Salenzo.
Yeah, I play football.
I was a kicker like my boy Pat.
Okay.
And I was a slot receiver, and I was a cornerback.
Oh.
Okay, okay.
Athlete.
Athlete.
I didn't know that.
Yeah, and I played basketball as well, and I ran track.
So I played a few sports growing up.
So do you get incredibly offended whenever people say,
if our athletes played soccer, we would win?
This guy's like, I played fucking every sport.
Come on.
What do we want out of me?
I'm a Texas kid that does all that.
You're a big fashion guy, though.
I didn't know that, D-Butt.
Did a little research on it.
D-Butt, big fashion guy, right?
Huge.
Big fashion guy.
Massive.
Not as big as him, man.
Hey, hey.
What? You said that before. No Balenci as him man but hey hey what you said
that before
no Balenciaga
in my collection
what about you
Keller what's the
top three kicks
but I need to
know top three
kicks that I
own or I just
like that you
own um
shoot let me
think um
so many
yeah yeah
I have yeah
I have a
sketch or
some shape ups
shape ups aren't bad
some Crocs
nah
I mean
I'm a Nike athlete
so I'm talking about
I mean
I have like my favorite
I have a pair of red Octobers
I've been sending on ice
I haven't worn them yet
holy shit
jeez yeah see that I guess I got some unions October's. I've been sitting on ice. I haven't worn them yet. Holy shit.
I guess I got some unions.
You wear any of those, Pep?
Yeah, I think I got some.
I was like
19.
Do you keep them all or do you
trade and sell them or do you keep everything?
I think
a lot of those I gave them away.
Good guy.
Geez.
What a hero.
Yeah.
They were some of my friends.
Like a lot of those, yeah, at that patient,
I don't think I have any of those anymore.
Oh, well, it must be nice.
Yeah.
Geez, living good.
You deserve it.
You deserve it.
Hey, keep crushing it, man.
We appreciate the hell out of you going over there doing your thing.
Congrats on all the success. Hey, how come – and man. We appreciate the hell out of you going over there doing your thing. Congrats on all the success.
Hey, how come – and you probably know the right people to pitch this idea to.
You know how they have the Europes where they all compete against each other?
And who won it this last time?
Italy maybe?
No, Italy lost to England.
No, it was England versus –
England lost.
Oh, no, Italy won, yeah.
Yeah, England lost to Italy.
Italy won.
Italy won the Europes.
And then you guys play in the Concava. Why don't you tell them, like, put won, yeah. Yeah, England lost to Italy. Italy won. Italy won to Europe's. And then you guys play in the CONCACAF.
Why don't you tell them, like, put the pink slips up?
Like, let's go CONCACAF champ versus the Europe's champ for both trophies.
Yes.
Both trophies.
I mean, it's not a bad idea.
I mean, I think that would be cool.
Think about it.
But what about, like, South America and the other regions?
They're not good enough yet.
Well, sounds like they have a chance at the World Cup.
Technically, I consider the World Cup, in a way,
the best teams playing against each other for one trophy.
I'm thinking like Ohio State-Michigan is the Europes in concava.
World War II before it goes to the World Cup.
Every time there's a Europes and a concava, we're playing for both trophies.
That's right.
You know what I mean?
Or maybe it's a one trophy.
Honestly, you're onto something.
I'm with that.
Here we go.
I cannot wait to embarrass the Europes.
Bring your best.
Okay?
Concava runs through this soil, and we're taking your trophy as well.
Can't thank you enough for joining us.
Good luck with everything.
Welcome back to America, bub.
I appreciate it.
Thank you guys for having me.
Ladies and gentlemen, Kevin Costner.
Yeah, Kevin!
Played soccer for the LAFC team.
Should have done a better introduction of the guy.
Seems like it was an enjoyable experience.
Yeah. Everybody on the stage, though,
as soon as you started saying everything was top of the line,
top of the lunch, we're like,
this guy is getting his life threatened.
I didn't know they brought Qatar representatives with the teams
to point guns at them while they did their interview.
Look, I do like, I don't think that happened.
Dude Perfect fucking traveled with them.
Oh.
Yeah, I do like the fact, though, that the players,
so they built all these stadiums.
They probably just put all the fucking hotels right in the middle.
It's just like one little spot.
It's a brilliant concept.
We'll just build a country almost for the World Cup, and then we'll hopefully do well with it that's why when everybody was
talking about they played at all all those different stadiums yeah there's eight of them
he said eight of them all within 45 minutes of each other so that's just like parking lot
it's crazy i'm probably like extended parking lot and then like another stadium and then like
a parking lot there's a country's what what do they say the size of delaware rhode island one
of those fucking things?
Well, we also heard he went to Southern New Hampshire University.
He did get his degree there.
He's a smart man.
He was a smart man. That's an internet university.
He didn't do that because he was focusing on soccer,
which is why I think we have a chance going forward.
More kids are doing this.
This is good news for the United States
whenever it comes to soccer against the globe.
Also makes sense if they had to build eight stadiums, or I don't know how many they had
to build, but if they had to build eight, it would make sense
why like 100,000 migrant workers died
because that's a lot of man hours, you know,
to get that done. They had to build a whole
new country. Yeah, basically had to build an entire
city, you know. A couple of them.
Great selling point, too. Like, hey, you can go to
every game, but boy, if you get pulled over for
speeding, you're not leaving.
You know?
I don't know if they're driving.
I assume it's a lot of flying mobiles.
Is there over there?
Seems like there's very advanced stuff in some
portions of the Middle East. I don't
know where at, how many places,
but it does feel like some places have
the most state-of-the-art stuff, and then
there's obviously others that don't. We have breaking
news out of the National Football League.
Vaughn Miller out for the rest of the year.
Oh, damn.
Ian Rappaport, a major change for the Bills.
Coach Sean McDermott announces that Vaughn Miller
did have exploratory surgery yesterday,
and they ended up repairing his ACL.
He's out for the season.
Jesus.
Sucks.
Fuck.
Hell of a run as a Bill Vaughn.
He'll be back next year.
I believe he signed a three-year contract with them this past offseason,
so obviously he'll be back.
But that was somebody that we felt optimistic about,
literally as of yesterday, like Ian's tweet kind of alluded to there,
where he'd be able to come back at the end of the season
whenever they're on a run,
exactly what he was brought in for to close games,
major games, important games out for him.
He had been doing that all season.
It was some of the best Von Miller that we had seen.
Ian Rappaport adds a little bit more context to the story in a tweet here.
Von Miller also tore the ACL in the same knee in 2013.
Had the repositioning of the lateral meniscus been all that was needed,
Von Miller had a chance to return late in the regular season.
When they went in, they found significant enough ACL damage to repair.
Did not know it was full tear.
They probably thought it was just a sprain, a partial tear.
Go in there and they go, ooh, that's a lot.
One more thing, probably going to tear it completely.
I'm not a doctor.
I assume that's what took place.
A fucking bummer for the Bills.
And we got Jordan Poyer joining us in about an hour and 35 minutes or so.
A little right here on this particular program.
Can't wait to talk to him about all things he has going on, how good the Bills run has
been, and also what it was like to have Von Miller as a teammate for the first part of
the season here because he'll be out.
That is a damn shame.
We had Von Miller on the show every single week somehow, out of nowhere.
We fell into a fucking Hall of Famer joining us every single week for great conversations.
Love him as a person.
Love him as a Buffalo Bill.
Fucking bummed about this, Darius Butler.
Yeah, man.
This is obviously a huge hit to that team on the field.
But not only on the field what he does, but, you know, hopefully he stays around, you know,
in the locker room and sidelines and shit like that.
But they brought him in to close, you know, close out the season and get over that hump.
You know, the Chiefs beating the Chiefs, getting to a championship game.
He went to the Rams, made those plays late.
Obviously, you know, got another Lombardi.
So this is obviously a huge blow to this team.
Unfortunate, man.
He can still win three Super Bowls at three different organizations.
He would still technically be a winner of a Super Bowl,
even though he would not be in the game if the Buffalo Bills were to go on
and win there.
The AFC East has got to be thankful for this towards the end of the season
here going on a run
especially the dolphins because the dolphins are missing their left tackle and you know
von miller that's a direct correlation to how he affects the game and then you look at the
you know vikings and chiefs game chiefs game he gets that sack bills end up getting the ball back
and scoring completely you know change that game for them and then if justin jefferson doesn't
make that incredible incredible catch on fourth and 18 third down play, Von Miller beats his man, gets a sack,
and sets up that fourth down.
So he really was their premier closer.
And I feel like this is a massive loss, if not probably the biggest loss for –
Any team.
The top contended team.
This year, yeah, I think so.
I think this is the first big, big one going into week 14.
Damn.
Hey, let's remember to enjoy these.
Oh, yeah.
That's right.
We're coming on a time where all we're going to have to talk about is actual bullshit.
Yeah, it's not good.
So let's enjoy this.
Yes, that's right.
Couldn't enjoy less with fucking Vaughn Miller not on the field.
I'm going to be honest about that, Ty.
There's no way that they can replace his production either, right?
I mean, just got to hope that the guys that they have have kind of –
I mean, like he's put enough into that room and everything
that someone or a couple guys will step up.
But, like, it's kind of the same thing like when T.J. Watt goes down.
Like, you just can't replace that guy.
You cannot replace T.J. Watt or Yvonne Miller as a player or a person.
You guys tried over there in Pittsburgh.
We're forced to almost try and have to.
And it was the record for Pittsburgh when TJ's on and when TJ's off.
Vastly different.
Just because at that particular position,
with the way this particular style of football is being played,
you can fucking wreck games, change games, win games, end games,
which is what Vaughn Miller was doing.
He got paid $100 and something million or whatever, right?
And everybody was like, hey, this guy's washed. Why would they fucking pay him
$100 million? Then he stepped in and had
one of his best years of all time. The guy was going to
potentially be up for defensive player of the fucking year.
Now he's out with an ACL tear and a meniscus
tear. That's a fucking bummer. Now we've got a long
rehab coming here for Vaughn.
Long rehab coming for Vaughn.
I guess it's better in the grand scheme
of things that they went in there
and sounds like did a scope and found this out instead of him coming back in a few weeks
and him really tearing it and then being out.
So hopefully he comes back and have another great season next year.
But, yeah, pass rushers, obviously wide receivers.
But these guys, like, changed your math.
When Chuck gets up here, like, he'll be the first guy.
Hey, don't let this guy wreck this game.
Nick Bosa last week against the Dolph,
wrecked the game. Three sacks, strip
sack at that. So, losing
that pass rush, man, especially with the style
of defense that Buffalo plays. You know, a lot
of two high safeties don't blitz a ton.
It's tough, man. Hey, everybody get pressure
just from the front four. Yeah, exactly. Let's see
if Leslie Frazier can figure it out
who's in there. Great defense. Not
saying they're not. This move was made strictly to win a Super Bowl.
They had a great defense last year.
No pro bowlers, I don't think.
A couple all pros and number one defense in the league.
No pro bowlers for whatever reason.
Bring in Von Miller because we think this is the only missing part
is if we're able to get pressure with just our front four,
if we're able to end games without having to bring out full-on blitz
or pressure without potentially losing something to back end when patrick mahomes
travis kelsey and something like that we have to win against this is a fuck i'm like i'm actually
bummed about this and we were just talking about you know teams being cursed i'm not saying that
has anything to do with this but like you go back to last year 13 seconds obviously with the chiefs
and now this year it you know vaughn now, 13 seconds, obviously, with the Chiefs.
And now this year, you know, Vaughn now,
but even Micah Hyde before the season started.
Like, they've lost two of their best defensive players,
and, you know, Trey White just got back.
So it's a huge addition. But, like, like Deebo just said,
like how the secondary works on a string with, you know, D-line,
that's going to affect how long they've got to cover for.
Jordan Poyer's job probably gets harder.
Everyone is going to be hurt from this.
Hey, hell of a season, Vaughn.
Get well soon, Vaughn.
We appreciate you, Vaughn.
Sorry about it.
Now in some news that goes the other direction.
We thought this player was going to be out for the rest of the year
with Liz Frank.
It turns out Jimmy G could be back in seven to eight weeks.
We're going into week 14 right now.
Right. So that would into week 14 right now.
Right.
So that would be week 21, which would be championship?
I believe so.
Championship weekend?
Five weeks to the last game.
Five, okay.
And then, yeah, wild card divisional would be seven.
So championship game or divisional?
Yeah, at the earliest.
I feel like championship game or Super Bowl.
That would be seven, yeah.
So he could come back at seven to eight weeks, they're saying.
Adam Schefter, sources.
Doctors concluded today that 49ers Jimmy Garoppolo does not need foot surgery,
which is good news.
Happy to hear that.
It is not a Liz Frank injury.
And if rehab goes smoothly, if rehab goes smoothly,
he could have a chance to return in seven to eight weeks, making him a potential playoff contributor.
We're going into week 14 right now.
Start doing the math.
We're running out of weeks.
Go ahead, Tony Diggs.
Yeah, I count them.
Either the divisional or conference championship round is seven to eight weeks.
Okay, so good luck out there.
So what is it, broken foot?
I don't know.
No need for foot surgery is not Liz Frank.
Liz Frank is like the collection of bones right on the foot, I think. Is that the? I'm't know. No need for foot surgery is not Liz Frank. Liz Frank is like the collection of bones, right, on the foot, I think.
I think it's a tendency. I'm not sure.
I know a lot of people talk about Liz Frank almost like an ACL damn near in the foot
because it's one of those things that kind of don't go away, can bother you for a while.
But if it's a broken bone, who knows?
It can be one of those things where they say, hey, is healing up faster than usual?
Maybe you can be back in six weeks.
But seven, eight weeks,
I'm going to be honest, I don't want to sound
like a downer, but... What is a foot
injury that could definitely have
a guaranteed
prediction?
Are there any? In my opinion, none.
I feel like all he did... Yeah, because a break, you don't know.
That's what he was kind of alluding to.
Because a break, I guess, they're just hoping, right?
Are they just hoping that it heals in time.
And who knows?
Maybe he's superhuman.
Maybe he has Wolverine blood.
Is that what the smoothly?
How do you rehab a broken bone?
I don't know how you do that.
Don't fucking step on it.
You throw a boot on it, and then you're just icing it?
Rice.
Rest.
Ice.
Ice.
Freshen.
Elevation.
That's what you're doing.
I hope he's got that.
With Italian blood. That makes bones? Yeah, maybe the Italian blood will help. Yeah, elevation. That's what you're doing. He's got that Italian blood. That makes bones.
Yeah, maybe the Italian blood will help.
Yeah, exactly.
Because of that Italian blood, he's got that dog in him.
So when the playoffs start, he might just be like, hey, yeah, my foot kind of hurts.
Shoot me up.
I don't want to feel it for the next few weeks.
You remember what Roethlisberger used to wear whenever he'd come on the field with his rolled ankle?
Give me the same thing.
You know how people run around with a peg on their hand or whatever when they break their hand?
Do it to my foot. You see how much I move?
Put me in shock. Am I running
around or am I throwing the ball? He gets the same spat
as Matt Ryan. He could probably play next week.
Matt Ryan has ice skates on when he's playing.
And ankle weights too. Some of the
best taping I've ever seen.
Some of the best spatting I've ever seen
on Matt Ryan's ankles. We're talking that thick
of tape on both sides of his feet.
Mad and spat.
It's real.
It's like out of a movie, like what they're supposed to do.
All right, tape this thing up.
And they go, figure eight.
Let me go around.
And that's very rarely what it actually looks like.
It's normally just too thick, but they have it perfectly or whatever.
The thicker it gets, I feel like the worst tape job that has been done
because they're trying to make up for it.
But I think Matt Ryan is like, give me four spats on this thing.
Give me four angle tapes on top of each other, on top of each other.
He had two walking boots on when we saw him up close and personal
right next to our suite.
I was mind blown.
And then he ran.
Remember, he ran with those on.
Unbelievable.
I have no idea how he ran with that on. Do think they need to like cut that off with like a chainsaw or the thing they take casts
off like after games like how long do you think it takes to get that shark the shark is not getting
through that yeah there it is they have the they have the spat shark or whatever i always enjoy
watching guys do that that's a miserable some guys are so tired those offensive linemen who
have to fucking cut it off i I've seen like so tired.
Is that Matt Ryan's?
Boom.
Those things are not going to break, though.
No chance.
Like they're trying to – right there.
Look at how – still at 90.
He's in the middle of trying to make a cut and get tackled at the same time.
Ankle's at 90.
That's good tape in Kyle or Aaron.
And you know there's tape on ankle, shoe on, that's that.
I got some moleskin on there too.
But Jimmy G, so if he's out 7, 8,
so that would mean Brock Purdy took him to the conference championship.
It's not like they're going to put him in there to play in the Super Bowl
or, you know, divisional.
Yeah, yeah, without playing football two of the last seven, eight weeks
and drop him in here.
Remember that's what they said Aaron Rodgers was going to do?
Aaron Rodgers is going to make it all the way to the Super Bowl
and then tell Jordan Love, this is your show now.
I retire. Because they disrespected him.
You remember that was said? Oh, yeah.
That was said with a straight face in one of these.
Not our room, but a
microphone. Somebody said that straight face.
Reliable reports. Report it.
Aaron's planning on telling the Packers,
if they make the Super Bowl just hours beforehand,
he's ready to say, Jordan, you're playing, not me.
They made this decision.
Sorry.
That'll show them.
That'll show them.
I mean, it's Butzo Brady, really.
And granted, there's way more time for Brady to kind of prove himself
through the year, but it was the same situation
where they made it to the AFC Championship. Brady actually got hurt.
Blotso comes in and wins it. And then leading up to the Rams Super Bowl, the conversation
was, yeah, Blotso or Brady. And he went with Brady. He went with the younger guy.
Could you imagine Jimmy G comes in, if Purdy gets hurt in the
divisional round or the NFC Championship game, Jimmy G
comes in, wins the game.
Yeah.
And then for the Super Bowl, Purdy's back healthy.
He got him all the way there.
Jimmy just won you that game.
Jimmy's got no deal going forward.
Purdy's got a very cheap deal.
Mr. Irrelevant for the next four years.
What does Shanahan and Lynch do?
But that would obviously be just like that one guy that said.
What's going on over there?
He said he's hoping for that situation to take place.
Yes, exactly.
That is what the Niners faithful should be hoping for,
that Brock Purdy comes in and he is fucking so good.
So good.
They go all the way to the NFC fucking championship game,
and they're able to fucking just dominate.
Now, I did read this on the internet by a San Francisco 49er blogger.
Okay?
And this person was all in.
It was a tweet that got retweeted somehow into my universe and into my timeline.
Yep.
And I enjoyed reading, but I learned something there.
Brock Purdy had an offer to fucking Bama.
He said, no, thank you.
Alabama?
Went to Iowa State.
Started as a freshman all the way through, four years.
This guy's been built for the moment.
He's beat Texas, and he's beat all these other schools.
This guy was supposed to go to Bama, said no, took the experiences instead.
Four straight years starting at Iowa State.
Four straight years of great football.
He's built for the moment is what the Niner blogger said. And I said, fucking A, consider me on the Purdy party, pal, because that is a piece of information that I love to hear. Maybe Purdy is a guy. Maybe
Purdy is built for the moment, and everybody couldn't see it because he fell to Mr. Irrelevancy,
and now he's getting an opportunity with a Ferrari to go on a run. Yeah, and I hope he does well because, again,
I do love seeing Iowa State guys perform well after they've left Iowa State
and get into the league.
We have to question his decision-making.
You fucking haven't offered Alabama.
You go to Iowa State, I would argue you're a little bit of a dipshit,
but that's neither here nor there.
Also, Texas, when he was there, they were going like four and eight every year,
so let's not act like Colt McCoy and Mack Brown were there.
They fucking sucked.
So let's pump the brakes on the... I mean, Vince
Young wasn't playing quarterback when Brock Purdy was there.
A lot of people would say Harvard to Iowa
is a similar situation.
You turned down Harvard to go to Iowa.
Yeah, I'm a state guy.
Are you kidding me?
I'm a fucking Hawkeye. I bleed black and gold.
Are you kidding me? How did Iowa State do against
Iowa? While Brock Purdy was there?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, he never beat them.
So, you know, I don't know.
I mean, you tell me.
That's really all that matters if you go to Iowa State.
But, yeah, they beat Texas the year Texas went 4-8 or whatever.
So that's feather in the cap.
Quarterback there, too.
Quick fans out there at Iowa State.
NFL star.
Yeah, nothing like playing at fucking Jack Campbell Field or whatever the fuck it's named.
Can't think of what the name of the stadium is.
Jack Trice.
Jack Trice Stadium.
There it is.
Good stadium.
That's Iowa State?
Yeah.
They're nice to me.
I got to kick at their facilities.
They're very nice to me over there at Cyclones.
I said on Monday about Brock Purdy being purdy, purdy good.
And then I said he seems to be smaller than other quarterbacks
that are taller than him, I said.
Some Niner blogger ripped it, put it up on a tweet,
and they said that I was very happy with what I saw or whatever from Brock Purdy.
And I was like, what did I say?
I wonder what they cut here, and I listened to it.
And as soon as I heard me say he is shorter than other quarterbacks who are taller, I was like, what did I say? I wonder what they cut here, and I listened to it. And as soon as I heard me say, he's shorter than other quarterbacks who are taller,
I was like, you fucking idiot.
And then literally the first response was, he's shorter than other quarterbacks
that are taller than him.
Yeah, no shit.
It's like, you get what I was trying to say.
He appears to be a little bit undersized.
Does that matter, though, if he's fucking incredible at football?
He played really well on Sunday.
He did.
He got crushed.
He made some plays.
He made some reads, made throws.
Obviously, it's tough to do that.
You know, it's tough to follow that up in his league,
but he definitely balled.
He's in a great situation.
Great defense, great weapons around him.
Already made history.
You know, first mystery relevant to throw a touchdown.
So, could he go on the run?
Who knows, you know?
I mean, and, like And look who they played.
If you can kind of point back to last
year, and granted it's two completely
different situations, but last
year, Jimmy G gets hurt,
Trey Lance comes in, they play the Cardinals.
Cardinals kind of beat the hell out of them. And now this
year, they're playing the Dolphins. And what happens
if Trey Lance isn't even a... Exactly.
That's not even a combo right now. It's an afterthought.
Niners people tell me that I attack Trey Lance.
Do I ever – I don't think I attack Trey Lance.
Yeah, you just have him crying before you play.
Yeah, I don't think we have any idea what Trey Lance is.
You want to cry.
Only Lambeau.
Only Lambeau.
Attacked him.
Yeah, Lambeau goes after him.
Oh, yeah.
Does he?
Oh, yeah.
Well, that's not me.
Hey, me and Lambeau are two very different people.
That's right.
I just always go like, do we know if Trey Lance is good?
Do we know?
And then I saw him play against Houston Texans or whatever. He did not have a good night. Nope. very different people. That's right. I just always go like, do we know if Trey Lance is good? Do we know?
And then I saw him play against Houston Texans
or whatever.
He did not have a good night.
No.
Like I said,
didn't have a good night,
but we don't know.
Trey Lance, very young,
could potentially go in there.
And a lot of Niners fans say,
I bury him.
I don't remember.
Maybe I did.
I don't know.
I don't think so.
Also with Brock Purdy,
we've been talking about
how teams get a book
on a guy.
Does that matter?
Hell yeah.
Mike White,
is he dead? No, he made,
he made, shit, he threw for 360 last, you know, I think, you know, a little bit behind him on that
potential game winner, and then Bynum made a great read, great interception late, but,
what, second start this year against that Minnesota defense, I think he played all right.
But like Purdy, he'll have to make like a throw or two, obviously, when you absolutely need it,
but like with their defense, and McCaffrey, and Debo, and so like, itdy, he'll have to make, like, a throw or two, obviously, when you absolutely need it. But, like, with their defense and McCaffrey and Debo and stuff,
it's not like they're going to be asking him to throw it 25 times
and win a game for him.
And it might come down to that.
But, like, is it the same as, like, you know, a guy who they're going to –
a team that's going to rely on a guy to, hey,
you're going to have to throw it 35 times and you're going to have to beat somebody.
Like, I don't see that with the Niners.
Well, and Shanahan's run game.
Right. Like is so sophisticated.
He's in a great, the best situation you could be in as a young quarterback.
And everybody keeps saying that about this Shanahan offense.
But more so those weapons, like you said, it's a lot of guys.
Christian McCaffrey, just get him the ball four yards,
let him do his thing, Debo, Kittle.
So it's not like, to your point, a big downhill passing,
a downfield passing attack that he has to go out there and manage.
So he's in the best situation.
But as this season gets late, playoff time, it's going to be tough. Yeah, like look at the top teams that the Niners are going to have to play.
Like Brock Purdy might be unbelievable,
and he has the weapons around him and everything.
And if they need to run the ball, they can.
If they get down to the ball, they can.
If they get down to the Vikings or Eagles or Cowboys,
can Brock Purdy keep them in the game?
And he definitely could.
He might go and throw for 500 yards this week. But the top of the class is so good.
But all those names you mentioned, you know, Kirk Cousins, Dak Prescott,
Jalen Hurts, they don't have much huge playoff success.
We can say, oh, yeah, these guys are not like Brady.
Oh, that was a big question yesterday.
Do you trust Jalen or Dak more in the playoffs?
I would say Jalen.
You were going to say Dak.
You were going to say Jalen.
That's why every once in a while on these sports talk shows,
they come up with a question that's a solid one.
That feels like a good one.
Now, we're obviously going to pivot away
from Purdy. Happy for Purdy.
When you talk about the
NFC side, though, the Eagles are in command
and then the Vikings, obviously,
right there behind them after that Dallas Cowboys
loss, everybody just, I think, kind of wrote them
off their back. They are still the Vikings.
Brand new Vikings, almost.
And an NFC North that has
quite a shift in narrative on who's who over
there. And obviously the Lions getting hot, they could sneak in. The Vikings though are,
the Vikings are the kings of the North right now. And I think it's going to take a little bit for
people to catch on to this and maybe it'll be a little bit too late because maybe they have an
early exit from the playoffs or whatever, because who knows what the Vikings are going to be to
your point about Kirk Cousins whenever you're just getting in there.
But the Eagles seemingly are the team to beat in the NFL almost,
not at this point.
Certainly in the NFC, but in the entire NFL.
Do you trust Jalen to go and run?
Because here's the conversation going into the season.
If Jalen's good, they're going to be great.
If Jalen isn't good, they're not going to be good
and they're going to find another quarterback.
He's already proved in the first 14 weeks in in my eyes, that he's a fucking guy,
and I do trust him in any big game.
I trust him in any moment because of how calm and cool and collected he is.
You trust him or Dak more?
Dak's been around longer, hasn't he, had bigger moments?
Who do you trust more for a playoff victory whenever you've got to have it?
Give me Jalen Hurst.
Wow.
I mean, this year, like from start to finish, even last year,
this Philly team surprised everybody, even making that playoff berth.
They got ran out of town by the Bucs, but Jalen has grown immensely.
Now, this year, we knew coming into the year,
every week he could be the best runner on the field.
We knew that at any point, but he threw for 380 last week against the Titans,
and the week, like taking care of the ball, making reads.
He'll be on some of these everything DB plays later.
But, yeah, give me Jalen Hurts with that roster over Dak right now.
You know what I liked about Jalen the most this season?
What's that?
Everybody made a mockery out of it.
You know when Blue, the Colts mascot, did the thing?
Jalen just scored a massive, massive touchdown.
Took that game over.
To win the game.
To win the game.
He just scored a massive touchdown. Took that game over. To win the game. To win the game. He just scored a massive touchdown.
Sees Blue doing that, immediately just calm, not like flustered at all,
just immediately humps him back and then just walks away.
Like that type of composure, I think,
after scoring the game-winning touchdown, seeing the mascot do that,
instead of just being in a zone, spiking and going bananas,
just completely fucking who cares,
just move along, let me mock this mascot real quick and then just get out there.
I think that is what I've seen from him time and time again
where it's like mentally I think he's ready for the fucking big stage.
Oh, yeah.
He played at Bama too, and obviously that's college,
but he was on the big stage, got benched on the big stage, dealt with that,
went to Oklahoma, did his thing.
We heard when Coach Sirianni came on and kind of just talked about his composure,
heard Lane Johnson speak highly of it.
So just watch him.
I know he's, what, second-year full-time starter?
Mm-hmm.
But he looks like a 10-year vet out there.
And he's fucking nice.
And having that run game, man, especially when it's playoff time
and you're not really thinking about, you know,
the longevity of your quarterback for the season,
that's tough to defend,
especially getting that red area where it's like,
all right, we got to...
I have my pass responsibilities,
but number one can take off at any time.
That's tough to do.
Yeah, that is interesting, the mindset of like,
hey, we might be off next week if we don't win this game
and what they'll be more likely to do with Jalen as opposed to in a regular season
when we're trying to get to those games that actually matter. I'm excited to see what Sirianni draws up.
Yeah, and it's crazy too just because of how even it feels like the Cowboys and the Eagles
are. Both have a really good defense with Diggs and Parsons.
Great run game. Yeah, both have unbelievable run games. One's just a little different than the
other because Hurts versus Sanders
versus Pollard and Zeke, and then both have unbelievable weapons,
especially the Cowboys at Odell.
Like that could be.
Eagles defense edge though, right?
I think we all give.
To the Dallas offense?
No.
To the Dallas defense.
That's so tough.
It is tough.
Think about what the Eagles have done.
Please, let's remember that.
Linval Joseph and Dominick and Sue.
Quinn's going to be back healthy.
Well, didn't the Cowboys just lose one of their better defensive secondary players?
Yeah.
Is it Anthony Joseph?
Hey, fucking hey.
Anthony Brown.
Hold on.
It just hit me.
Congrats to the NFC East.
Look what they're doing right now.
Okay.
Right?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, look at the other two teams.
Still alive.
They're both in it.
Yeah.
Could both make it.
I guess they can.
He was in the playoff.
He got some playoff experience.
Yeah.
Brady will run for his money.
But that was when the conversation was the loudest about the NFC East being so terrible
at football because they made it in with a losing record or whatever.
Remember, the Seattle Seahawks did this, and Marshawn Quake happened.
That's what they were talking about way back in the day.
Good for the NFL, too.
Yeah, because they're always on primetime.
Always on primetime.
Those are probably the most valuable teams in the league right there.
Most valuable division?
For sure.
For sure.
When it comes to the class of the NFC, do you guys think,
because you've talked about the year you're on the Colts
and how anything, you could have ended up finishing maybe like –
2-14.
Yeah, exactly, and you could have maybe went 8-8.
It seems like the Vikings have – I think they're what, like 9-0 this year
in one-score games or something like that, as opposed to the Eagles.
We saw what they did to the Titans.
When they go, they kind of beat the shit out of teams.
Do you think that that's going to catch up to the Vikings in the playoffs potentially?
That's a great question for you because for me, every game it's me versus the ball.
So I don't give a fuck if we're favored, not favored, winning, losing.
We could be down 50.
I'm in the fourth quarter.
It's just me and the ball.
That is the whole thing.
Is there something, too, like in those close games, why the Vikings are able to win?
And if the Eagles don't have to have some dogfights,
are we going to know ever until they get into it if they can handle it or not?
Yeah, I feel like the Eagles, they definitely have some dogfights.
Even the Colts game, obviously they lost to the Commanders.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Packers game a little bit.
Yeah, they had some where, you know, Jalen just had to kind of take over.
Turn it on them.
Yeah, as far as the Vikings, like winning those one-score games,
we see what the Lions all the time.
Like, it's a fine line, obviously, between winning and losing.
Kevin O'Connor, I forgot who he had on.
It may have been Pat Peay, one of the Vikings players,
talking about, you know, Kevin O'Connor really focusing on those
got-to-have-it plays.
Yeah, he always talked about the four or five plays that determine the game
and make the difference.
So that'll be huge.
But they're finding ways to win the game.
And it's a lot of, like, veterans on that team.
Like, you know, Pat Peay,rison smith sidarius uh thielen uh jefferson's obviously young but he plays like
a team of hot like it's dalvin cook like they got a lot of vets on that team that kind of know how
to win these ball games now so i think it's about winning losing i think they'll be all right
especially if they have home field you know up until yeah it is nice it is nice to get those
bounces though oh yeah you know like those there's like been years where i've been on the team if they have home field up until conference championships. It is nice to get those bounces, though.
Oh, yeah.
There's been years where I've been on a team,
lucky to be on a team, where those games go our way.
And then, obviously, that year we were 2-14, not a one of them.
Right.
Not a one of them.
Every single game went the other way.
Like, ball gets punched out and, like, stops on a dime
and bounces backward into a guy's hands who's on the other team. Ball gets punched out and stops on a dime and bounces backward into a guy's hands
who's on the other team. He goes down game over.
It's like...
They're getting them this year for sure.
They had this game.
That's what I'm saying. It is a much better life
when those are going your way. It is a
much better life when it's going your way.
When you talk about it though, the teams that go
are the teams that get those bounces.
Whether it's luck or not, but those are the ones that end up going all the way and win the super that's like
the team of destiny thing will anybody ever talk about like the stats and analytics people will
tell us about that oh how come the ball that's oblong did a bounce that's never done before
and defied science to go into somebody's hand so he scooped and scored a touchdown and beat that
team knock that team out this team's gonna is there a stat for that particular fumble in recovery,
or can we not judge that?
They always use it as, like, a negative.
Like, no one will talk about it this year, but then next year,
before the season starts, like, they'll be like,
oh, the Vikings are going to regress to the mean this year because they won.
You know, in one-score games last year, they were 11-0.
Like, this year they'll probably go 4-7 in those same games. So it's never
used in a positive context
to always in a negative context
after the fact. Along that route,
the sportsbook right now, the Vikings
are going to Detroit and the Dawgs.
What do you think about that,
Foxy? December, dude.
The sportsbooks know. They always know. We're the hottest
team in football. This is the brand new Lions, and that's
what they see. It mean, it makes sense.
Ford Field's going to be loud just like at Thanksgiving against the Bills.
It was like the loudest.
And I think it was the –
It was like the loudest.
It just – like through the TV, it just sounded like the loudest.
They actually had the odometer thing.
What did it get up to?
What did it get up to?
The loudest.
That's how loud it got.
Wow.
Lucas Oil was 107.8.
Yeah, it was.
It was 107.8. It was 107.8
and then it was 96.
Then it said get loud and it went
back up. Seems like that's fake.
No, it doesn't.
What about the attendance numbers?
I saw Lucas Oil up there.
104%.
Is that real?
Yeah, I think so.
It feels like it's always filled up.
A lot of other fans. Dealers, Chiefs, and Eagles fans. Yeah, the other teams. It's filled up. It feels like it's always filled up. With a lot of other fans.
Dealers, Chiefs, and Eagles fans.
Yeah, the other teams like to make their choice.
You know, Indianapolis is a pretty properly placed.
For all those places.
Easy to travel to.
It's called Circle City, you know,
because basically the highways and everything is set up like a circle.
And, like, you go this way, it takes you to Columbus, Cincinnati.
You go this way, you go to Chicago.
You go this way, you go to Louisville in the south, basically. You go this way, it's St columbus cincinnati you go this way you got chicago you go this way you
got louisville in the south basically you go this way it's st louis and everything else so there's a
lot of like within two and a half three hours basically indianapolis is very easily to get to
pittsburgh's only six kansas city's only five yeah it's a lot of teams a lot of teams crossroads of
america and uh to the spread on the Lions-Vikings game,
when the Vikings were dogs at home against the Cowboys,
we said, what's going on?
Cowboys won 40-3.
And then just something to remember, too, about stats,
not knowing about those bounces.
That's all the football gods, baby.
That's why we talk about the football gods,
because they don't get enough respect, one,
and two, when they don't get their respect,
they make you pay for it.
Robcraft builds a stadium out of his own pocket.
Boom. That's crazy.
Builds a plaza alongside of it, a hotel, casino.
Long term, making more money
than fucking everybody else in the NFL.
At the time, they're all calling him stupid.
You use public money, dude.
They don't want you to go to Los Angeles.
I'm not going to be the LA Patriots, Robert Kraft said.
I'll fucking pay for it out of my own pocket. 1999. What do they
do after that? Win, win, win, win, win,
win, win, win, win. Yeah, that's
right. New England. Not leaving New England. It's the
greatest place on earth. And, you know, you mentioned
the casino and the movie theater.
New England's greatest place on earth? Probably.
I mean, a lot of people say that. All those
things. There's one other thing that he put
in there that everybody should consider.
That's a fucking Toby Keith bar.
And that's where everyone goes before the game.
I know that.
They got a Toby Keith bar.
And everybody goes before the game.
And it is amazing.
I love this bar.
It's my kind of place.
Butler is here and joining us live from an attic in Ohio is a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup champion.
And listen to this.
What?
An NBA pundit.
Okay.
Video game shitster.
Wow.
COVID survivor.
A couple of times.
Boom.
A couple of times.
Whoa. Yeah. Four to five maybe. Yeah. Holy shit. Fucking Boom. A couple times. Whoa.
Yeah.
Four to five, maybe.
Holy shit.
Fucking whack, whack, whack, whack, whack.
Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawks.
Hey.
AJ, how about when COVID was just fucking relentlessly attacking you like you were to those two men that were holding back?
Didn't slow me down, bud.
You know that.
Did not slow me down.
We powered through.
Yeah, you did. Yeah, you did. That's right. That's right. You Didn't slow me down, bud. You know that. Did not slow me down. We powered through. Yeah, you did.
Yeah, you did.
That's right.
You did.
We appreciate that, AJ.
Happy for you.
Great to see you.
Missed you in the first hour.
We had a lot of conversations about the soccer.
Did you watch that convo?
Did you see us talk to Kellen Acosta about his World Cup experience at all?
I saw a few minutes of him talking about the stadiums that he played in.
Said it was really nice.
Listen, we don't know if he was forced to say as such,
if they told him you have to say as such, or what took place,
but he complimented Qatar as a World Cup host,
and obviously there's a lot of stories and skeletons,
both physically and metaphorically, about the World Cup being there,
but I'm happy he got back, and we're going to win the next one.
Yeah, I think we're going to win the next one.
Let's talk about winning the next one. Baker Mayfield is now
the quarterback for the Super Bowl champions,
Los Angeles Rams. Baker Mayfield asked for his release from the Carolina
Panthers because both sides were no longer needing each other at the moment, with
quarterback position basically sealed up by other quarterbacks, which we could have never seen coming
at the beginning of the season,
even though we all kind of did.
He has been released from the Carolina Panthers,
picked up on waivers by the Los Angeles Rams,
will allegedly be wearing the number 17 for the Rams.
What do you think about this with Baker and McVay teaming up to save the Super Bowl champs' worst start in the history of Super Bowl champions,
A.J. Hawk.
I mean, it makes sense, doesn't it, to bring Baker in?
Like, do we know?
Is he going to start?
Does he have a chance to start anytime soon?
Like, what's the plan?
Yes, he has a shot to play immediately, they said.
I don't know how much he knows of the offense,
and maybe he's been a part of similar offenses in the past.
Was Stefanski?
I don't know.
Has he?
Stefanski was Minnesota.
I don't think Stefanski's from the McVeigh tree.
And then who was it?
It was, who's the guy at the Carolina Panthers?
The former coach of the.
Ben McAdoo.
McAdoo, is he running the.
No.
Who is it?
I think you gave it four syllables.
I think it's only three.
It's not Macadoo?
Hugh Jackson?
It's not Hugh Jackson.
I don't know how Wolverine gets into this whole thing,
but it's just Macadoo.
Jackson.
Hugh Jackson.
I think Freddie Kitchens was a McVeigh disciple,
if I remember correctly.
Oh, that's Stone in the River.
That guy, when him and Stan Coldenbaker were playing catch outside of the Stone in the river. That guy, when him staying cold and Baker.
Oh, man.
We're playing catch outside of the thing.
The best.
I really wondered if they were going to be able to win a Super Bowl or not at that moment.
Turns out other people did as well.
Congrats to Freddie Kitchen.
You can say he was an NFL head coach.
He was.
Yeah, he was.
Baker shouldn't be able to learn any offense at this point.
Been a lot of different coordinators, a lot of different terminators.
How do you feel about it?
You're a Baker supporter.
I'm not saying you said that Baker's like top five,
but for whatever reason, it didn't work out in Cleveland
even though he won him a playoff game.
He goes down to Carolina.
I don't know if anybody's going to work there.
They already fired their coach.
They traded their best player on offense.
Who knows what really was an opportunity, what wasn't.
Do you view this as a potential comeback party
for Baker Mayfield, or do you think this is going to be shit?
I mean, he's still young.
Former number one pick, fresh start.
But it's not – I mean, Stafford didn't even look good in that offense this year.
So, obviously, you're missing Cooper Cupp, so that doesn't help.
I'm hoping for it, but do I see it?
No.
AJ, what are your thoughts on that question?
Well, what's the best-case scenario for Baker?
He gets thrust into the lineup, and he plays very, very well for the rest of the season and then what another team
vitalizing team's gonna sign him as a starter you think is that the plan probably well it depends
on what happens with matthew stafford right it depends on what's going on with matthew stafford
because spinal contusion he's out for the rest of the year a couple concussions this season as well
already has a super bowl and so much money.
Tons.
So much money.
Old CBA.
So much.
So, so much money.
That was back in the A.J. Hawk CBA.
Yeah.
Isn't it?
Number five overall.
Taking a beating.
He was our draft.
Yeah, he was number one our draft.
He just got paid this year.
What number did you go?
You won.
41.
You were picked 41?
Yeah.
That's pretty fucking good.
Holy fuck.
D-Butt.
Belichick.
Back-to-back picks.
Belichick knew.
Bill Belichick.
D-Butt, were you pumped?
John Robinson, too.
John Robinson was on that.
Yeah.
Which I found out yesterday.
Were you pumped to go to the Patriots, D-Butt?
Yeah, I was.
I was.
You know, going to Belichick, obviously, I was close to where I played college ball
at Connecticut.
So, yeah, I was definitely pumped.
After Nick Casario and Belichick ran my pro day,
I thought it would be a good shot I would end up there.
But, yeah, I was definitely pumped to go there.
Did you go senior bowl?
No.
Yep.
You played a senior bowl for the North?
Yep.
Sorry about it.
Racist.
Martin Freeman.
Are you on the South?
I don't like it.
I don't like it.
I'm from the North.
I'm undefeated in wars, but undefeated in senior bowls, too.
I played for the South team.
Did you kick off? No. Yes. I'm from the north. I'm undefeated in wars, but undefeated in senior bowls, too. I played for the south team. Did you kick off?
No.
Yes.
You kicked off the meeting.
Did I open and kick off?
I was a kick returner, too.
How'd you do?
Nice.
All right.
Touchdown.
They gave me brand new balls in that thing.
That sounds fun.
Was Hernandez's brother on staff at UConn?
Straight to the Hall of Fame.
Who's that?
Hernandez's brother.
Was Hernandez's brother on staff at UConn when you were that? Hernandez's brother. Was Hernandez's brother on staff at UConn when you were there?
No, Hernandez's brother.
We were actually classmates.
We came in the same signing class.
We both raised each other.
I believe he was actually in Iowa.
He was, yep.
He was.
The UM, Iowa.
But, yeah, we were the same class, DJ.
Boy goes by Jonathan now.
DJ a player?
He was a player, yeah. he was a great uh three sport athlete
in connecticut he ended up being our quarterback then he moved to wide receiver we had a our state
transfer tyler renzer come in and be our quarterback yeah so uh dj was never gets dj
never gets talked about obviously because there's a much larger story that has happened in the family. But DJ, like, great human, right?
Great, great human.
He's like phenomenal human,
but never gets talked about, obviously.
But I think, like, actually known by,
I've never met him, just mutual,
you being one of them, but then others as well.
I've heard great fucking human.
Is that why you asked?
Do you know him as well?
Yeah, I remember seeing him in one of the documentaries,
and then I've talked to people
that have either worked with him or played with him or come across him. They all had really good things to say about him. as well yeah i remember seeing him in one of the documentaries and then i've talked to people that
have either worked with them or played with them i come across them they all had really good things
to say about them that's good to hear right yeah how great do and i you know i knew that family uh
knew chico from the time he was like you know 15 years old he was coming up you know seven on seven
shit during the summer so obviously crazy crazy situation um but yeah dj a great great person
great human.
I don't think he's coaching anymore, but he wrote a book also about his brother. I think The Truth About Aaron Hernandez or something like that.
Would you imagine how tough that would have to be?
Yeah, your little brother.
It would be awful.
Duh.
Come on, man.
Duh.
Yeah.
And then, like, for the rest of your life, anytime your name is said,
that's all anybody.
You have to go in isolation almost.
Like, you're basically getting, because your public life would be something vastly different.
And he obviously did, I mean, I assume he puts blame on himself for all the other things.
That's a whole other level of blame and guilt that probably happens there.
But I've heard other good things about him.
And, of course, you know what?
Actually, thank you for bringing him up, AJ.
Thank you.
I love you, Jonathan.
Reach out to my dog, man.
Yeah, send him a text.
Do you know Dennis Santusi?
Tell him we said what's up, too.
Santusi.
Mr. Santusi.
Santusi.
He was with the family, too.
You said you've been around the family.
Yeah, he was around the family as well.
That's the heavyset guy?
No!
Got a guy in your kitchen.
In his underwear.
Cooking bacon.
Wasn't painting Bob Ross
paintings.
One of the greatest
in history.
Yeah, ever. By far.
Alright, let's move along.
You probably know him, yeah. Send him a text.
Tell him we think he's an incredible
voiceover artist. He's unbelievable.
All right, let's talk about some other stuff with A.J. Hawk here.
The Cowboys are worried that Odell Beckham Jr. isn't healthy enough
to play football this season, I believe is how Jane Slater's tweet
kind of rolled it out.
Here's from Ari Mirov.
Cowboys have concerns that Odell Beckham Jr.'s ACL is not progressed enough
to ensure that he'll be able to play before mid-January per Ed Verder.
OBJ took a physical with them on Monday.
Jerry Jones had a change in tone this morning when talking about Odell on local radio,
potentially with Sean and RJ Choppy.
Obviously, we got that right.
We heard them yesterday on 105.3 The Fan.
They're doing their best down there, and we appreciate them.
Thank you, boys.
Number one in the DFW
area. That's a big area.
That's three cities. It's fucking three cities there.
Nonetheless, Jane Slater
also had a tweet that basically said,
without the ability of seeing them running routes
and cut, they could only judge off
of what their physical told them and what the
scans told them. And if we do recall,
Cowboy Hat Doctor down there at Dallas,
he was the one responsible for Dak's surgery recovery.
I think they take it very seriously in-house when it comes to the medical in Dallas.
I think the medical guy, the Cowboy Hat dude for the Dallas Cowboys,
I think he has a lot of sway in how things go, who gets signed, what happens.
I think he has, like, a real voice in the building and decision-making. I think he has a lot of sway in how things go, who gets signed, what happens. I think he has, like, a real voice in the building and decision-making.
I think he has Jerry Jones' ear.
And I would assume from the scans there had to be something.
Odell's saying that's nothing.
They're saying, well, you worked out.
Allegedly you worked out, but I guess you didn't cut.
Oh, you did work out?
I don't know.
There was, like, mixed reports on you.
This has been a very weird fucking situation.
What do you take on this, AJ? what's your entire take on this whole thing well it makes me think of i saw as
goop likes to call him dr florio right he posted something saying odell should be pissed because
he had two other visits with no no like information leaked at all but then he goes to dallas and then
they leaked it they think he might not be ready till like late january so odell should be pissed has he responded what's that called the uh hippa hippa here it is why is this information
i don't think hippo falls in that well i guess how is that like if they went into super specifics
would that like what would be a violation i don't know that's interesting can you talk about scans
not being good enough to sign somebody and then tell the world i don't know i mean i'm sure they're
trying to pressure him to go, like,
put him through the workout that they want him to
do. Because that would be doctor-patient there,
right? Because it doesn't work for them.
Right. Happened with Zeke, too.
So, down in Dallas, it has happened before.
Oh, yeah. Zeke after the whole thing.
Uh-huh. Interesting.
I wonder if Odell tweeted a
chest piece.
Whoa. Ooh. Odell's a chess piece. Whoa.
Ooh.
Odell's got it all figured out.
Yep.
I'm not thinking Odell's worried, but he's back home in Arizona, I've been told, by multiple reports with his family,
trying to figure out what his next steps are.
Did not expect to not have a deal done, though, they thought,
by the end of this trip.
I wonder what's going on.
What do you think's going on?
Maybe Odell's in Dallas trying to play chess, putting that shit out there. You know Dallas got their puppet strings all over the media. What do you mean? What are you think is going on? Maybe that was Odell Sandalas trying to play chess, putting that shit out there.
You know Dallas got their puppet strings all over the media.
What do you mean?
What are you talking about?
What are you saying?
Just saying, you know.
Why would they do that?
You think they would money them cheaper?
Trying to work more of an incentive deal.
You think he was in the training room and Jerry was like,
what's going on over there?
Jerry was like 14 to 15 feet away.
Looked at the scans.
Look at the scans.
Come on down there.
Is that a little scar I see?
Looks like it.
Release the info.
Well, how come he hasn't addressed it?
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know.
Dak had to.
Yep.
Oh, yeah.
And Dak fucking, absolutely fucking murdered it.
Superstar.
He's a leading man.
That's right.
Zach is a leading man.
He's a franchise.
He's incredible at what he does.
Honestly, why doesn't Jerry just address the...
What are you guys doing? Yeah, there's no reason. Why hasn't he? Honestly, why doesn't Jerry just address the thing he's doing?
Yeah, there's no reason.
Why hasn't he? Honestly, I don't understand.
Does he think if
he ignores it, it'll go away?
But it won't. Never.
Especially in the world that we're in right now.
I guess it kind of has. I guess it's
kind of subsided. I think it'll go away. Maybe that's why.
What's that?
LeBron's keeping it alive. I think it'll go away. Maybe that's why. What's that? LeBron's keeping it alive.
I think it'll go away.
I mean.
It could have been a great, that could have been a great like, hey, this is where the world was through my lifetime.
Look where we are now, hoping to where we're striving to get to.
Like, it could have easily been a, obviously it's not Jerry Jones' fault that he was born.
He probably doesn't want many follow-ups, though.
You think he wants any follow-up questions?
Is there any more photos?
Well, well, Dan Snyder is pissed off right now.
He's got a lot.
I mean, he'll probably follow up with, what, 2017
when all the players were kneeling and shit,
and he came out and was like, hey, fuck your First Amendment.
You kneel as a cowboy, your ass is out of here.
So it's been.
You're saying Jerry's going to get – the follow-up could be for that
and then there could be more and he's just like hoping that it subsides?
He's like, fuck it, I'm just not going to address it.
I'll go on with Sean and R.J. Chalpe.
You tell them though.
Remember, this can all – all right.
There ain't one even thought.
None of those.
Unless it did and we just haven't heard it.
But if he would have, we would have heard it.
No, he would have.
Let's keep our ear to the ground on that.
Let's pivot away from the NFL and from that situation,
and let's talk about a great situation, a big-time situation.
A tall task was put right in front of the man that we're about to chat to
and say, hey, why don't you acquire all of the baseball news
that happens around the globe?
Well, the last two days, this man has been on fire.
You know why? Baseball
players are signing mega deals to
baseball teams. More specifically,
what Aaron Judge
signs for $360
million
to
remain a New York Yankee
over the next nine years. Joining us now is a man
who has all the information
and deets behind the signing
ladies and gentlemen it's time to hit the runway jet pass
great to see you man fellas how are you fantastic how are you you've been a busy man baseball's
doing stuff right now let's go jet what's it been like i feel like gumpy's beard looks. I'm just tired.
Oh, no.
He can't even
defend himself. His beard can't
even defend himself.
Well, I hope you fucking wake up, Paul.
Slapping balls the other way in Canada.
Jeez, Paul. Unbelievable.
Anyway, so how are you?
It's been quite a run, and Gumpy,
I'm sure we'll have some sort of...
That is not going to go unanswered.
No, no, no.
That is not going to go unanswered.
Excited to see what comes from our Canadian pal who is locked away in a cabin in Canada all by himself.
It's been a wild couple of days. Is this normally when this happens?
Did this get sprung upon you out of nowhere?
Aaron Judge, is that why all this news is happening?
Or is there more people as you're about work week over at this point?
MLB free agency is a lot different than the NBA and then the NFL because those are cap sports, right?
You essentially know if you're an NFL player around how much you're going to get.
You know if you're an NBA player what the max contract looks like.
If you're an MLB player, the market is about as free as it gets for any professional athlete.
I love that.
And the fact is Aaron Judge had offers from the New York Yankees, the San Francisco Giants,
and at the end, the San Diego Padres.
And he went to the Yankees and said, I want to be a New York Yankee,
but I need this ninth year of the contract, and I need $360 million,
and that's precisely what he got.
And I got a DM from Ty this morning.
He was feeling good.
What are you DMing, Jed?
What did you say to Jed?
Because yesterday when the news broke that he was going to be a giant.
That was arson, Jed.
Yeah, real time.
I almost had a heart attack.
Was that you, Jed?
I told Connor, I think two days ago, I said,
if Aaron Judge doesn't resign with the Yankees, I will kill myself.
Why?
I didn't say anything today, Jet.
What happened? Did you just say, was that you, Jet?
No, that was AJ. You got a problem?
That was me, Jet.
Oh!
Are you a pro?
Hey, watch it, pal.
You're about to get that little hair that is
beautiful on top of your head smacked the fuck off.
You know that.
Honestly,
I'm going to light you up, son.
Get him.
Not me, AJ.
AJ.
You're talking about AJ Hawk.
You're talking about AJ.
But no.
That was me.
I wanted you to clear it up, Jet. What happened with this whole arson judge situation?
All right.
I'm going to take people behind the scenes here because the biggest nightmare of any reporter is getting something big wrong.
And you know what?
I feel bad for John Heyman.
I feel bad for anyone who's in an area like that.
You trust people that you talk to,
and when they give you bad information, you get screwed by it.
And it was an unfortunate thing.
And I felt bad for Yankees fans at the time.
But they ultimately ended up on top.
And Giants fans, they're going to be OK.
Giants are going to be fine.
They're going to sign a shortstop.
They're going to sign pitchers.
They're going to be better.
All will be well in the end.
But man, baseball Twitter had a moment yesterday. Yeah, and you all will be well in the end but man baseball twitter like had a
moment yesterday yeah and it's you get something wrong back in the day you know only a couple
people will find out about then you'd be able to correct it now especially when it comes to
something like arson judge i mean there's a chance that that's gonna go like 10 000 retweets in like
four minutes five minutes like hey the deal has been made that's a big deal that's why
you got to be on your shit these days that's why i'm not i'm happy i'm nowhere near an insider i don't know
how you do it every day jet we appreciate it though we appreciate it i loved your modesty in
there you know you get bad intel i loved how you talked you fucking crush it we happy we're happy
that wasn't you yesterday ty your question for jet yeah jet do you think i mean i know judge said
that ultimately he wanted to be a yankee and it it was kind of Hal who said that they came together and got that deal done.
But I was thinking last night, was there any chance that because the Heyman thing came out,
like was he maybe leaning towards going to San Francisco, and then that news came out,
and he was like, all right, fuck this.
This isn't going to be how this is going to happen.
So the Yankees deal ended up getting done.
And also, do you see the Yankees?
This is one of the things I DM'd you.
Are the Yankees about to spend $500 million more like they need to do?
Are they going to be active now that they have Judge?
First off, I need to apologize to Connor for the slander there.
Connor, I'm sorry.
Don't even worry about it.
It looks great.
Everything is good right now. You too, Chad.
Water under the roof. Exactly.
The Yankees, yeah, I still
hate you, AJ. The Yankees need
to go out and add
more. Listen,
they got swept
by the Houston Astros in the postseason.
Oh, jeez.
Their team looks
an awful lot like the team that got swept by the Houston Astros.
They need to go out and get Carlos Redon, the best pitcher left on the market right now.
They need to get Andrew Benintendi or Masataki Yoshida from Japan, someone to play corner outfield spot.
Like, there's a lot that the Yankees need to do.
And their payroll right now with Judge making
40 million dollars a year is 265 million dollars now they're not spending the most in New York the
uh the New York Mets payroll right now is at 298 million dollars and that's before the luxury tax
penalties that are going to be coming down every dollar that the mets spend from this point forward is going to be taxed at 90
yeah so so if the mets i did the calculation if the mets take their payroll from 298 to say like
330 they're going to pay a 62 million dollar tax on top of that 330 that they have already we're we're potentially looking at the
first 400 million dollar baseball team this year like anyone who says that's awesome baseball's
dying look at the money like just follow the money that's a great rule in life well a couple
people that baseball is far from dying right now yeah i agree I agree. I'll tell you, a $400 million team is awesome to watch.
I mean, that is an incredible thing to do.
I also love the fact that old
Cohen cuzzy just like, oh, the MLB
has this fun little game where they charge
two bucks for every one buck, basically.
After a certain amount, who cares?
We're getting two times the players, aren't we?
Yes, we are. We'll do that whole thing.
You know what, though? This is like an
existential thing,
and it goes back to your fandom of the Pittsburgh Pirates.
$28 million.
$28 million is our fucking whole team.
$400 million is what the Mets.
What type of league is this?
What type of league is this?
We got no chance.
And those penalties are in place to ostensibly discourage teams
from going and spending that much money
because being competitive and wanting to win that's why you're in a non-cap league yeah when
you're in a non-cap league it's frankly it's difficult for those smaller market teams to
compete and yet pat there there are a few things here number one you see a team like tampa bay
rays or a team like the cleveland guardians every year, because they draft and develop well, because they have a good farm system, they're able to compete despite having lower payrolls.
And then let's talk about the San Diego Padres a little bit because the Padres are a fascinating team.
San Diego media market is the 27th ranked media market in the United States. That is legitimately a small market team. And yet
over the past 48 hours, they have offered Trey Turner a $342 million contract without any deferred
money. And they've offered Aaron Judge a bigger deal than what the New York Yankees did. If the
San Diego Padres can do that, every team can do that. Because I was talking with some Padres
people last night, and
the fact is, like, if
you build it, they will come, is a real
thing. If you build a
winning team, people will go
to the ballpark and watch it.
Hell yeah. Pirates will never do that,
which is a shame.
Were you in a hotel
covering this? Do you guys just say
like, hey, we'll meet at one area
for when Aaron Judge signs? Was that
in a hotel? Because there's a lot of photos
of you doing your reporting, Jet. I don't know if you saw
on the internet. Oh, are you going to
show it? I don't want to.
I don't want to.
I don't want to.
No, no, no, no. Pat, Pat.
Oh, Zito. Come on.
Zito, Foxy.
You know what?
I'm five foot.
You got to own it.
Good.
I'm happy you owned it.
You know what?
I am five foot nine.
There's nothing I can do about that shit.
Sorry.
Genetics suck sometimes.
They gave me this hair.
They gave me something else that's not on camera right now.
Kyle.
That one's rude. That one's rude.
That one's rude.
Wow, Chris Berman is 8'11".
I mean, it's tough for Kurchin, not Jett.
Yeah, let's kick Kurchin.
Oh, my goodness.
Laugh at Kurchin.
Yeah, Kurchin is a child in that.
What did he say?
You better watch your mouth, Jett.
Better watch it!
Alright.
May I just say Tim Kirshen is
among the most fantastic people on the planet.
Best guy in the world.
Love him.
Don't kiss my ass now, Jack.
Let's get back to this.
So is there more to sign?
You were at a hotel.
Is that what you're doing?
And did you have a heads up that this was going to end up being done in this window?
Or are you all meeting there?
Is there baseball meetings happening right now?
Yeah.
I thought you were talking.
Did I know that a picture of me standing on a goddamn box was going to be put out there?
No, I did not know that.
Yeah, obviously.
No, this is, the winter meetings every year.
Kind of a canon.
Hey, your legs.
Yeah.
You look like you're stout.
A lot of squats.
A lot of squats.
That's what I'm talking about.
I want to carry baseball on your back.
You got to fucking have good legs.
The winter meetings every year,
they were essentially created to have activity and buzz in baseball.
And, you know, baseball, like, it's called the hot stove league.
Like, it didn't used to rule the sports calendar.
But, you know, the world wasn't so
dominated by the nfl once upon a time and major league baseball's lost a lot of market share there
but i was hearing last week from executives and from agents this is going to be a crazy winter
meetings and right on the eve of it jacob degrom signs for 185 million dollars Rangers. And now we've got contract
after big contract. Judge
going 360 to the
Yankees. Trey Turner going
300 to Philadelphia.
And there's going to be a... Wilson Contreras
just went for 88 to the Cardinals.
And we've still got
Zander Bogarts, Carlos
Radon, Dansby Swanson,
Brad Nimmo. Those are five guys
who get $100 million plus contracts.
And that's going to happen over the next couple
days, you think, or you don't know?
I think some of the shortstops
are probably going to go down.
Nimmo may take a little bit.
Radon
could. I mean, listen,
the beauty of this offseason
so far, where there is this offseason so far,
where there is going to be three plus,
maybe on the verge of $4 billion in guaranteed contracts
to Major League Baseball players.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
You know, the beauty of it is that teams are actually competing now.
Like, they want to go in the damn ring.
They saw what the Philadelphia Phillies did, taking an 87-win team and going all the way
to the World Series and being up 2-1 and looking like they were on the cusp of winning.
I love the fact that there's competition in baseball right now and that teams like the
Padres, teams like the Phillies, you know, not your normal classic teams,
are going out there and saying, we want a damn ring.
Let's do that, Pittsburgh.
Huh, Pirates?
Go again.
$28 million.
You just listed off five people that have bigger contracts than the entire team.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Shout out to Cuzzy right there.
Walking a great shirt.
Darius has a question for you, Jack.
Go ahead, D-Butt.
Yeah, Jay, you named all the big-name players.
I'm a casual baseball fan.
And Shohei Otani, how long is he going to be trapped out there in L.A.?
And why do they stink having Otani, Trout?
Like, what's up with them, and how long is he going to be trapped out there in L.A.?
That's a great question.
I'll answer the latter first.
They stink because you can have the two best players in baseball
or two of the five best players in baseball,
and if the 24 around them aren't good enough, you're never going to win.
You just can't be carried by superstars.
Superstars have to be a piece of the puzzle, and you need team around them.
I look at team right now, guys, like the Los Angeles Dodgers.
They're really not spending a whole lot this offseason.
Why do you think that is?
Because they want Shohei Otani to go up the five and play in the Dodger Stadium
after next season when he's going to reach free agency.
And if we think nine years.
What are they going to have him do?
Both?
Are they going to have him do both?
Oh, absolutely.
Okay, because I remember there was conversation about him inevitably becoming just a pitcher or something like that
because he wanted to save his arm.
That's no more.
We're ready for this guy to do both forever.
Listen, the guy is the unicorn of unicorns.
I think he's the most impressive professional athlete in the world right now.
I'm talking every sport.
Show me someone who can play on both sides of the ball at the level that he does.
He essentially is playing two sports in one.
It's not like in the NBA if you're a good offensive player and a good defensive player.
He does something that guys do every five days, which is throw a baseball, and he does something that guys do every day, which is play a position.
And he does them both at the same time.
It's an incredible thing.
I think I made this comparison on your show before.
It's like having an elite quarterback and a great middle linebacker
or a great rush in.
Like, you know, there are things that athletes can do.
Bingo.
So is he going to completely change the market money-wise?
Yes.
Yes, he is.
And he and Juan Soto are primed to become potentially the first $500 million athlete.
Baseball.
Still happening.
Still got it.
So he's going to the Dodgers next year.
That stinks for the Yankees.
No, no, no.
No, no, no.
Hold on.
I don't want to say he's going to the Dodgers next year. That stinks for the Yankees. No, no, no. No, no, no, no. Hold on. I don't want to say he's going to the Dodgers next year.
Thank you.
Because every team – listen, the Yankees are going to be on him.
Steve Cohen, the Mets owner, the Mets are going to be in on him.
Pirates.
The Cubs are going to be in on him.
Red Sox.
Pirates are not going to be in on him.
Marlins.
Red Sox.
Yeah, Red Sox will be on him.
Shohei Otani does not want to go play in Pittsburgh.
What are you talking about?
We would give him the franchise.
Well, I know.
But what Jet's failing to mention, and you can tell him, Jet,
Masahiro Tanaka is going to move back to New York,
and he's going to get this done for the Yankees.
Shohei Otani will be a Yankee next year.
Jet, how come you didn't say what he just said?
Is that your – because what he said doesn't make any goddamn sense.
Wrong.
Wrong.
Wrong.
You know every Japanese baseball player bows at the feet of Tanaka.
And, I mean, Tanaka taught Otani basically everything he knows.
So it's a done deal.
If that isn't true, I feel like you're probably offending the shit out of him.
No, no, no.
You're running him away from the Yankees.
No, no, no.
Yeah.
No, no, no.
Is that what he's doing right there?
After the show today, go watch Masahiro Tanaka and watch him.
One of my favorite Yankees of all time.
He's unbelievable.
I assume him and Otani have a great relationship.
Well, Hideki.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Godzilla Matsui.
Another guy.
Another Japanese guy who loved playing in New York.
Japan, big time, like fucking good baseball country.
Great baseball.
Great baseball. How come? Why do you think? Why do you think that is? Why do you think Japan is like fucking good baseball country. Great baseball. Great baseball.
How come?
Why do you think?
Why do you think that is?
Why do you think Japan is such a big baseball country?
The sport was taken to Japan by foreigners and essentially was adopted as like the national sport.
Baseball in Japan embodies all of the principles of the samurai.
This is like, I'm not exaggerating here,
like discipline and practice and patience.
All the things that some people think make baseball too slow,
the Japanese absolutely love about it.
And the crowds there are unlike, you know,
the crowds in the United States, unfortunately, for baseball,
are the worst crowds in the world.
In professional sports.
Like the World Baseball Classic is going to be happening this spring.
And it's going to be, you know, the first round is going to be in Japan and it's going to be in Miami and it's going to be in Phoenix.
The final two rounds are going to be down in Miami.
And Pat, let me tell you something.
rounds are going to be down in Miami.
And Pat, let me tell you something.
If you want to see what baseball at its best looks like, go down to Miami and watch a Dominican heavy crowd play a baseball, watch a Dominican heavy crowd, watch the team from the Dominican
Republic, which is going to be the best all-star team you've ever seen.
I mean, if it's them in the U.S., in Japan, in Venezuela or Puerto Rico or Cuba,
whoever it is in those Final Four, it's going to be absolutely insane.
And the atmosphere there is as close to a college football party atmosphere
as you will see in any sport.
It's soccer.
Like, Dominican winter baseball is unbelievable.
I didn't want Zito to get canceled there.
Zito's parents are from Cuba.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, so that was not one of the white stooges up here doing that.
No, no.
We will certainly make our way down there.
That sounds amazing.
Oh, yeah.
Hell, yeah.
Is Basil going down there too?
Art Basil?
I just ended.
Oh, that's not year-round?
No, this past week. Okay. I think it's swimsuit week, though. What? What Basel? I just ended. Oh, that's on year-round? No, this past week.
Okay.
I think it's swimsuit week, though.
What?
What's that?
Down in Miami.
This week?
No, no, no.
That same time as the
World Baseball Classic.
Sounds like you're just
making things up.
Nonetheless,
sounds electrifying.
Cannot wait to get down there.
We can't thank you enough
for joining us
in your very busy
winter meeting
baseball classic days
with your box.
Hey, you know what? I love box.
See you, boys.
We are.
Jeff Passer.
I didn't know he was carrying nukes
on that fucking jet plane today.
That's what he said. That's literally
the type of plane he is.
AJ,
do you think he backed down?
What do you think?
Like you two run into each other,
you got a smack on the mouth or what?
No, I'm all right with Jet.
He can say whatever he wants to me.
I respect Jet and what he does.
It's just a matter of time
before he gets himself fired off ESPN
and comes on the show and saying something.
We know that.
We do know that.
100%.
We do know that.
That might have been it, actually.
I was going to say that walk-off is teetering the line.
No, yeah, he was talking about the box he was standing on.
Oh.
Yeah, that's what he was talking about.
I thought he was talking about Matchbox 20.
Foxy and Zito pulling the trigger to show this is unbelievable, by the way.
Mid-conversation with the guy, just have to put it up there.
Came right at Gump, had to do it.
Who took the picture?
Who took it and posted of him standing on the box?
A lot of people.
There was different angles.
I've seen him
standing on that box from this angle,
from the front, and from the other side.
They went in a high shot.
He's 5'9".
He's fine. That's plenty of time.
In case Judge walked by, they wanted to be
at a short.
That picture with Boomer is alarming.
Boomer is a house, though.
We saw him at the Super Bowl one time, and I was.
I almost had a heart attack.
Yeah.
No joke.
6'8", 315.
I'd never seen him in person before.
I was like, Jesus Christ.
I didn't know Boom was a Hall of Fame left tackle.
Where'd he go?
Harvard?
Brown?
Brown.
Brown University. I think he played football Harvard? Brown? Brown, I think.
I think he played football there, right?
Had to have. Yeah, must.
Had to have.
Kirkjian in this particular photo
got Siciliano'd bad.
I mean, worse than possibly anything Siciliano's
ever had.
And once again, these are not these guys' fault.
No, no.
We're just talking about the perception of the angles.
Well, Kirkjian is legit 5'2", which doesn't
help.
But he can't.
What are you saying?
What's so funny, AJ?
Because Ty just so confidently says he's legit
5'2", which I'm sure is false,
but I just wonder what Kirchner's saying.
I mean, the proof's in the pudding, AJ.
Jets 5'9". Kirchner,
you know, he probably has about 7 inches on Kirchner. Look at the photo. Jets 5'9"? Kirchen, you know, he probably has about seven inches on Kirchen.
Look at the photo.
Jets 5'9"?
I was going to say, I was thinking Jets probably more like 5'7".
Whoa.
What are you judging this guy for?
That's just guessing.
But, again, it's tough to tell because Boomer is like 7'5".
Coming from a guy who's 5'7", that looked like 5'7 to me.
Dirty.
Not 5'9".
Hey, Dirty, you carry it well, Dirty.
Okay.
Appreciate it.
Hey, Dirty, you carry it well, Dirty.
Appreciate it.
Dirty does, I think, understand the height disadvantage comments,
and he's owned them immediately upon arriving in our office.
Dirty always talks about it.
Dirty, I don't think you're alarmingly small at all.
I don't think so.
I think I'm just below average.
No, I think you're good. I think I'm just below average. No, I think you're good.
I think the average is probably 5'6". The actual male average is probably 5'6".
I think he's about 5'9".
There's no way.
That's what you said.
You said average whenever he said 5'9".
You think that's what it is?
In America, yeah.
You think maybe you hang around?
Whatever Tom Cruise is, is average.
I think Tom's 5'8".
I think they made that the average for American homes.
They made that the average.
That's how it works.
That's awesome. That makes sense.
Tom got him to change it.
The world is 5'6".
The U.S. is 5'9".
So you're right.
5'6 is the world. According to the
U.S. Centers for Disease Control.
Oh.
Oh.
I've heard a lot of different stuff.
I do my own damn research.
The average age, I don't know how you're going to be able to figure this one out.
The average age adjusted height for American men 20 years and older is 69.1 inches.
Oh!
Or 5'9".
And the average height of an American female over 20 years of age is 5'3'3 1⁄2 inches tall.
Yeah, but does the CDC's daughter work for Twitter?
That's a good point.
I'd rather go find out on Twitter.
That's a good point.
5'9 is awesome news, though.
Everybody needs to just peruse the Twitter files.
And I don't think this is necessarily political party-based.
I assume both parties are going to end up having something
from twitter it's all politically it's all politically based we know that i haven't dove
into it too much but i know there's people on both sides yes that's what i think no matter
your political affiliation which is normally how people get offended and don't do something like
those i don't care about what those people say because those people are the worst people on earth
both sides say that exact thing and they both believe it 100%.
Oh, yeah.
Okay, that's just how everybody feels.
I think you would learn something from reading the Twitter files that I don't pay attention enough to the real world, I guess, remember?
But big-time blinders, John, try to stay out of all that type of shit.
Just stay in my own lane here, and then at some point I'll probably start to care enough about what the world is. I'll dive into it. And appearingly, I will become a much more
miserable person every single day, because that's what the people are that get into the politics and
into the news and everything like that. I've tried to stay away from that as much as possible. I
assume at some point, I'll be able to do that. Reading through those things, I was alarmed.
I was actually like, wait a minute, this seems like a conflict of interest all over the place.
And then I started thinking immediately, because this type of person I am, all these world and politic people view us sports people as stooges.
You know what I mean?
They view us as idiots.
The guy in the tank top who's not jocked.
He's not jocked.
He's a policy.
Why is he doing that?
These people that are saying that.
What's going on in your world over there?
Clean up your fucking house, dude.
Yeah.
Like reading through those Twitter files, it's like, yo, this is disgusting.
Oh, yeah.
And this is like happening.
And then I guess it's just people just act like it didn't happen.
I don't understand how this isn't alarming to everybody in the world.
That ain't ever getting cleaned up.
That's the dirtiest house there is in the dirtiest game.
Well, stop judging us then just because we're dumb.
We're not dumb.
We can come into your house and we'd be like, not doing that, not doing that.
Fuck that.
You're out of town.
Go ahead and run for that.
See you later.
That's what we would do if we had to do it.
We have a little accountability over in our world.
Not a lot.
I mean, fuck.
There's been a lot of things that have gone wrong for sure.
But over there, there seems to be no accountability for nothing.
What the fuck is going on?
Yeah, exactly.
You thought steroids and baseball is bad?
Why don't you go search the Twitter files and then see what's bad in the political world?
That's what I did.
It was not fun.
I was like reading it like, this has to be a movie.
This has to be a movie.
This is a plot to a movie.
Oh, this is real life.
Oh, come on.
That's what I said.
Then I said, get me out of here.
Get me out of here.
Get me out of here. Let me get back to the sports. I can't do that. But I'm sure. That's what I said. Then I said, get me out of here. Get me out of here. Got to go.
Get me out of here.
Let me get back to the sports.
I can't do that.
But I'm sure.
I think it's weird.
It's just a very weird world right now.
Happy to be living in it.
Lucky to be doing what we're doing.
Joining us now is the head coach of the 10-2 Minnesota Vikings.
One game away from clinching the division.
They could do it this weekend against the red hot Detroit Lions.
Rookie head coach, obviously a stallion.
Former quarterback in the NFL.
Formerly with the Los Angeles Rams.
Ladies and gentlemen, Kevin O'Connell.
Yeah!
Coach.
What's going on, guys?
It's just fucking easy to coach in thefl huh just easy that's the way this
thing goes that's a 10 and 2 obviously your first year being a head coach come in kirk cousins looks
better than he's ever been before justin jefferson is obviously going to go on to break records
dalvin cook in the run game crushing it adam thielen still there the defense pat p calling
picks before games even end calling game what is this just easy
koca what's the deal why do you think this has happened so so fast over there with the culture
being set in that you're putting now pat the those reasons that i heard you mention a lot of our
great players um so those players are really the reason behind you know what i feel like we've been
able to be successful uh doing this year is
is just empowering those guys uh trying to have you know trying to coach at a level that
our team's prepared to be at our best when it's required and and along the way i think we've built
something pretty special from a culture standpoint and these guys really being able to trust in the
guy next to them uh rely on what we've built, and hopefully just continue to build on that.
It's hard to win in this league.
You guys all know that.
So every time you can go out there and have an opportunity to, you know,
be giving out game balls after another win, as a young head coach,
that's a big-time positive.
Coach, what do you do?
Like, you talk about empowering your team.
Like, there's plenty of talented teams out there that aren't 10-2 right now.
Yes.
Like, what kind of things did you implement to try to empower this
and let the players kind of, you know, take ownership of what's going on?
Did you see him deflect any of that?
Did you see that, A.J.?
As soon as we said, like, hey, you're doing well, he's like, well, obviously it's this.
What are you doing?
And what have you taken from being a player to coaching now to A.J.'s point?
What have you done?
Yeah, I think it's a really good question,
and I think it started a long time ago, AJ.
From the first time I got a chance to stand in front of these guys,
talking to them from a perspective of, you know, being a former player,
having been coached in some places that I felt like, you know,
have led me to feeling strongly
about what I believe is important in a team.
And when you talk about player ownership, you've got to have great leadership, AJ.
You know that.
Some of the best teams you were probably on, you guys could all look to your fellow captains probably.
Or like in our case, we had 22 players receive votes from their teammates to be a captain.
So as a head coach
how do you empower those guys how do you not talk to them week in and week out there's very rare
moments in this during our season where when i deliver messages to the team
in that group setting i haven't already talked through it with our leadership what's going to
be important for the week what i need out. And ultimately, it's about challenging these guys.
It's about challenging them for them to understand, you know, what it's going to take to win games
in this league, what it's going to take week to week.
And then ultimately, how have we built it in a way where whether it's situational football,
whether it's our offense and defense and special teams philosophies, or sometimes, AJ, as you
know, it's fundamentals
and technique it's doing things the little things the right way consistently that helps you win
sometimes that can sound like coach speak but when you got the right kind of guys the right coaching
staff shoot man I'm just having a blast it's it's been a whole heck of a lot of fun it's been a lot
of work now and I feel like those guys and those players will tell you the same thing we feel like
we've earned the right to at least say hey we've won 10 football games in this league
in a season but there's a lot of ball left and and we've really earned nothing at this point
hell yeah coach hey listen i know in the middle there you said it sounds cliche or whatever
cliches are a cliche for a reason because they're real. Getting everybody to buy in and believe and go in the same
direction is what great coaches
do. It appears,
and we don't want to crown you yet because you haven't earned
shit, right? That's right. Haven't earned
a damn thing. It appears as if you have
all those traits, Coach, so congratulations.
Can't wait to see what you do for the rest
of the ride here with the Minnesota Vikings.
Darius has a question for you. Yes, sir.
What's up, Coach? You obviously play for, what's happening, man?
Good to see you.
You obviously play for greatest coach of all time, Bill Belichick,
and then you coach under another Super Bowl winning head coach,
Rashawn McVay.
Are there any similarities, or are they just vastly different humans,
and what have you taken from those coaches
to your own head coaching experience?
That's a great question, man, because they're so different from a personality standpoint.
But leadership qualities are real and they come in a lot of different varieties, a lot of different
styles, but both equally so effective, especially, as you know, with Coach Belichick, just his ability
to teach us as a football team during the short time I was there
or even when you watch his teams, you coach against his teams,
you know that they're educated on playing really good football.
But also, hey, here's what it's going to take to win this week.
Here's how our team needs to play in some ways, shapes, and forms,
reinventing themselves schematically to put their players in
the best possible situations to have success. That always hit me. And I always think it led to,
you know, the sustained success they've had there in Foxborough. And then with Sean,
you know, a lot of the same characteristics as far as empowering players, educating players.
I, you know, I learned this saying from him,
that you get what you emphasize with NFL football players, and I think that's a real thing.
I think these players and NFL players, they want to win so badly. A lot of them come from really
successful college programs, high school programs. These guys have won everywhere they've ever been.
So why would it be any different now, especially when they're just looking
for direction, for guidance, for leadership?
And a lot of the principles at which I choose to do that come from not only
my close working relationship with Sean McVay, but the things that I learned
from him working side-by-side with him.
Nobody I respect more than those two coaches that you just mentioned.
I think Sean McVay really appreciates the hell out of you.
He's currently missing you maybe a little bit.
Who knows?
Connor, your question for Kevin O'Connell, head coach of the Vikings.
Yeah, Coach, you talked about scheme,
and Pat actually might be able to use the technical terms better than me,
but yesterday in the trenches with A.Q. Shipley showed us a draw to dalvin cook and there is a tackle on the uh d line and it seemed as though
the center and guard have the option to go to the second level is that something you put a lot of
trust in your players with yeah is this a read here on where the middle linebackers lined up
right here are you able to shift this are they able to change this to uh the guard pulling as
opposed to the guard or the center pulling as opposed to the guard pulling with where the linebackers lined up there? Yeah, you know,
that's why we wanted to be kind of in a spread formation right there. Just try to put as much
width to the formation as we could. And then ultimately the second part of that is being able
to sell, you know, on a known passing down. I think that was the second and 10, you know,
being able to sell drop back the illusion of our drop back protection.
And then ultimately, what's going to be the best angle of departure for whoever is going to climb to the second level to try to block 57?
Because let's not forget who that down player is, whether it's 95, 98.
They had unbelievable.
because whether it's 95, 98, they had unbelievable.
The Jets have just a fantastic front.
The goal going into that game was to hopefully just not let them wreck the game,
and sometimes it's easier said than done with those types of players.
But anytime you can get Dalvin Cook in space with the football in his hands,
whether it's second and ten, first and ten, really doesn't matter.
It's something we're trying to always do, and I've got to continue to find ways to do that, but also don't want to miss an opportunity to credit our offensive staff
and some of the ideas that they come up with every week. It makes it fun, calm
plays. That's seemingly unstoppable right there. Spread them out, so then you've got Mosley
kind of on an island right there. If he lines up head up, we'll have this guy pull, and if he
lines up off center, we'll have the center pull in there.
That's an option that they can put in there.
This modern NFL with all these rules, you're obviously a massive part of it.
We need to start saying your name a lot more
whenever we start talking about young offensive things.
At what time do you think the NFL in football and in general
became like a part where you can just scheme unstoppable plays?
Because it feels like there are – now you guys have a lot of those it seems like i mean justin jefferson 180 yards
in like first half cut i mean but when did it become like that was there something that people
learned was it when the rules changed when did it really become these like incredible schemes
that seemingly are unstoppable you know what i really don't know that but what i can say
is i think that uh i think defenses have a lot to do with that.
And I don't really mean schematically as much as I do just some of the absolute
animals from a playmaking athleticism.
I mean, you've got outside linebacker pass rushers that are as athletic
as anybody on the field.
You've got three techniques and 330-pound nose guards that can run sideline to sideline as well as anybody on the field. You've got three techniques and 330-pound nose guards that can run
sideline to sideline as well as anybody. The dynamic nature of safeties at the second level
and all the different things they can do. And then, oh, by the way, there's quite a few
shutdown-level corners in our league that can still just flat out line up and try to take away
the better receivers in this league. So when you say all that, I just think it's a constant
evolution of trying to find advantages, leverages, techniques, make people uncomfortable
doing their job on the other side so that your guys can be more comfortable just executing and
using their skill sets. Because if you constantly force your opponents to, you know,
I use the saying never fight a fair fight,
and that's not to say you're trying to wheel and deal and smoke and mirror,
but just try to force people to have to think about multiple things,
second guess their ability to quick trigger and use that great athleticism,
strength, power, because I'll tell you what,
when I'm calling plays, Pat, there's never a time where I feel like something's unstoppable just because of the sheer playability of the other side,
and we've got to be really, really good, snap in and snap out.
Quite honestly, that's something we're really looking forward to continue to build on.
Shoot, we want to be more consistent offensively.
There's sure a lot of things that I could do better for our group, and then hopefully our 11 guys out there all doing their jobs and we'll be in good
shape all right well coach we know you got to get out of here we can't thank you enough for spending
some time with us good luck congrats on the success and uh yeah maybe you'll figure out how
to be a better coach sometime maybe you'll figure it out i appreciate you guys always getting a
chance to catch up whenever we can make it happen,
man.
Hell yeah.
On a Wednesday,
you coming in middle of your work day,
we appreciate the hell out of you.
Ladies and gentlemen,
Coach Kevin O'Connell.
Sorry, AJ.
He had a,
we were 12 seconds late there.
Oh, yeah.
Hey, I feel like we properly.
Oh, yeah.
Hey, that's how we,
that's how we earn the respect,
I think, from places.
You actually started early, too.
Yeah.
I like that.
Pro.
Look at us.
Because normally I just get so lost in the convo, and I'm like, oh, man.
That was a great convo, too.
Yeah, I feel like.
What he's talking about with leverage is.
It's all leverage.
You can tell, obviously, he was a player,
and obviously he's been around some great coaches.
Did you play with him?
Played with him, yeah.
We were teammates in New England.
He can run, man.
He ran all over people at San Diego State.
Yeah, athlete.
I enjoyed him breaking down that run play.
Thank you for reminding us about the run play option right there
because obviously whenever AQ said ask about it,
in my head I immediately go like,
oh, that can lead to an entire conversation about these offenses now.
I don't want to say, and I'll keep going back to Aaron saying it,
but it was something that Aaron said that I thought was a little bit interesting
because he said, didn't he say a monkey could play quarterback?
Yeah, pretty much.
With some of the plays.
He said with the offense we're running right now,
a monkey could do some of the things.
Like, hey, you're looking here, then you're looking here,
then you're throwing the ball there.
That's how the offenses are being schemed right now.
Guys are being spread out so people are put on islands.
So it's like, hey, if this guy goes this way, you're just going this way.
Easy decision where in the past you had to figure out what's the coverage,
what's the hole, where's the lane, what's that.
Now it's like the modern offense is like we're taking advantage of one
motherfucking person.
If this guy steps forward this way, we're throwing it over his head.
If he goes backwards, we're cutting underneath, we're throwing it.
It feels like offense has gotten simpler almost for quarterbacks.
Tom Brady has alluded to that as well and what he has seen over the years so i kind of wanted to get his take on
it because he's an incredible offensive mind i could hear that from listening to him but also
they're they are an awesome offense to watch kirk cousins is fucking dealing right now out there
he's playing well some of the things that stuck out is uh that he said you know never fight a
fair fight and that's basically just going to where the numbers, you know, tell you to go.
And I think a lot of – a big part of evolution, too,
is a lot of young quarterbacks obviously playing early,
so them bringing in more of the college game with the easier reads and stuff.
But it was a great, great, great combo.
What do you think about that, AJ?
What do you just heard Kevin O'Connor –
did you know him personally before we talked to him on this show?
I fucking love that guy.
He swears, too, which you don't need that.
I did not know him.
I actually played against him.
When he was at San Diego State, maybe my sophomore year,
we played against – O'Connell was the quarterback.
But, no, I don't know him personally.
But, I mean, super impressive dude.
I think, like, colleges, when they started running these spread,
like spread them out, half field reads, all that,
it was obviously like it's hard to find quarterbacks.
You know, it's really hard to find great quarterbacks
that go through everything, but it's easier to find, I guess,
sometimes athletes that you can craft into making them a decent quarterback.
And I think that's carried over in the NFL game.
We see guys that are supreme arm talent,
and they also have crazy running ability too.
And that's what we're getting out of these offenses.
It's fun to watch.
I think it's good for football ultimately,
but listening to Aaron and I guess Kevin talk about it
and all these high-end quarterbacks chat about it,
it's a much more easy version of the game,
but it's certainly a little bit more electrifying
every single play potentially.
Hearing all that, and I'm not a huge anytime touchdown guy,
but we saw a revenge game last week.
There's a certain revenge game opportunity this week
with a certain tight end for the Minnesota Vikings
to score against the Detroit Lions.
This guy swears. Former
player. Seems to be a guy.
Going to get a guy
touchdown against his former team.
It's guaranteed.
TJ Hawkinson also blocking.
You smoking over there?
You smoking?
Talking to me?
Yeah, there's cigar smoke going on.
You didn't read the Fuzzy Walls book?
Hey, what's going on?
The thing's been freezing a little bit today, huh?
Yeah, the last couple days.
And then Kevin O'Connell.
FaceTime is messing people up, man.
It's FaceTime.
Really?
Because yours has been freezing the last couple days,
and then they both were freezing, and then we were live,
so then that makes me think.
They're throttling it.
I'm telling you, they're throttling something.
Who?
Twitter?
You know, they can throttle the internet speeds. Someone's throttling connections on here. think that's right on it i'm telling you there's throttle on something who twitter you know they
can throttle the internet speeds and stuff someone's throttling so throttle connections
on here are you getting throttled down there you're throttling down who's throttling you bro
oh my god aj hawk's getting throttled it's not good you do something to wexy uncle wexy
uncle wexy's pissed i don't. Didn't pay ties this month?
Every time.
Every time.
But his was also slow over there in Minnesota.
It might have been because it's zero degrees, but also, I don't know.
That's been something.
I went to the Cavs game last night.
Those guys are good.
They're good basketball players.
Hold on.
Something happened at the Cavs game.
Who played there?
Oh, Anthony Davis got sick.
You went to the game? How far is the drive to Cleveland from where you are,
and what was the experience like?
A little over two hours.
We had my daughter's a big basketball fan,
so we wanted to take her to her first game, and I took her.
We went with another guy and his daughter as well she plays with.
Good dadding.
It was sweet, man.
Anytime you see NBA in person, it gives you a whole new respect for everyone
and everything they do.
And Donovan Mitchell, you've got to be kidding me. That was you gotta be kidding me he's built different too like that guy is awesome like
he's so his legs are big and strong he's powerful he can hang in the air for 30 hours like all those
guys are such freaks yeah great he said shohei otani greatest athlete of all time or something
like that or greatest athlete on earth i get it but you to an NBA game, you got a 6'10 guy sprinting, jumping, running,
catching, shooting, throwing.
That's that Otani shit, though.
What's that?
That shit is.
What, Otani's doing?
He's definitely in the debate.
You see him over there running the base pad and seeing pitch like that.
Yeah, but we were just talking about one particular athlete before the show
that doesn't get as much respect, and that would be Wayne Gretzky.
Because, man, we did not know some of this guy.
I need to relax.
What happened on the track?
I need to relax with everything that I've said.
I feel like I've let my fandom blinders kind of not let me really soak in
some greatness.
A stat that I had not known, so I was uninformed in this particular situation,
has been presented to my life about Wayne fucking Gretzky.
So he's the all-time leading scorer, points getter.
By like a million, right? By way more than anyone else.
Yes, AJ, thank you. Yes, that is right.
It is by a lot.
He's up there.
And points are either assist or second assist counts as an assist in hockey.
So two passes beforehand, and then the goal scorer gets a goal.
That's obviously a point.
If you were to eliminate all of his goals scored, just assist and –
894, I believe.
Goals.
If you were to eliminate 894 points okay he would still lead what with just his assist and second assist against everybody else that's ever played
ever it had goals assist and second assist how i don't know that that piece a lot of points that
piece of information was presented to me right over there and it's a whole new ballgame. So now Wayne Gretzky's the best player on earth,
Sidney Crosby's number two,
and then you've got Mario Lemieux right there at number three.
Stoner at four.
I don't know if Stoner got us the Mount Rushmore.
Stoner's in there.
Mario's still better.
D-Butt also just reminded me of something, too.
There's a race on a track.
I think it was like Pele, Wayne Gretzky,
a couple big-time legends of their sports,
and Wayne Gretzky beat the fuck up. Oh, Wano smoked them.
Really?
Wano's a dog.
Wano's a dog.
How much does running speed translate to being on skates?
Just quads, right?
Quads, straight?
No?
No?
Okay.
It's all their lower halves, though,
are... Here it is, yeah.
Who's he racing? Bjorn Berg, Sugar Ray
Leonard, and Pele.
Get out of here.
Get off.
See ya, Pele.
Pulling away.
That shocked me.
God damn.
Gretzky, Bjorn.
Pele's very fast
He's got like six Wimbledon's
Yeah you would think
Pele gotta get down
Is that him up top
Not in the
No
Sugar Ray
In the middle yeah
Is Pele like 65
When he was running
How old is Wayne
Probably
How old is Wayne
1982
How old is Wayne
Oh that was prime of his career
Oh yeah
Sugar Ray's older
He looks older
Good hair
Great flow Yeah Pele looks older Pele older. He looks old. Good hair. Great flow, yeah.
Pele looks old.
Pele is old.
He looks older.
All right.
We got 22-year-old Wayne taking on.
All right.
All right.
Got it.
How about Pele just saying, fuck it.
Fuck it.
They're going to disqualify me.
I'm not just going to lose.
They're going to DQ me.
I want to beat him.
I want to do his lane.
You know, you see.
You're talking about greatest athletes.
For a second there, I thought you were going to talk about Jim Cripps.
Oh, yeah.
Professional bowler Jim Cripps.
Holy fuck.
Yeah.
Bro, this got introduced into our group text earlier.
I don't know if you saw this or not.
Nick found this on the internet.
It's a bowl of 300.
Okay, you have to have strikes for all 10 frames and also the two
bonuses that you have at the end so it's 12 strikes that you have to hit consecutively you
get a turkey that's three in a row that's a big deal four or five you get eight in a row great
fucking round not a 300 no 300 i think is very difficult this fucking dude did one backwards. He did a, he rolled a 300 backwards. This is
11th ball out of 12. Here's the 11th one. Dog. That's crazy. Boom. No big deal. And then if,
if we have the sound in the back, they start rooting on the ball here. And here's the 12th
one. Here's the last one for 300. Think about what's going through his head. He hangs up.
Yeah. Fuck you. Fuck you.
hangs on yeah fuck yeah fuck yeah backwards whoever eats your heart yeah jeez you go bowl right now and you get a 140 you'll be pumped yes okay yes professional bowlers they get like 250
260 obviously every single time 280 whatever the case is 300s don't happen i think just like all
the time this fucking guy does it backwards?
Yeah.
This guy may be the most talented individual on earth.
And I would assume quarter mania.
Jim Cripps probably had, what, 12 to 18 12-ounce Bud Lights.
Yeah.
In his little tiny glass cups.
Does he compete against others backwards the whole time?
I would assume.
I assume they don't let him.
That hit him forwards.
Yeah, so there's the two-handed wonder from down under
obviously changed the game because two-hand that thing.
Then there's the who the fuck you think you are.
Pete Webber.
I am.
I am.
And now there's the backwards 300 guy
who might be the greatest of them all.
Yeah.
Fucking A.
Good for Bolin, AJ.
Bolin's getting hot.
I mean, is it possible he's trying to promote something here?
I hope so. I hope he cashes in on this.
PBA tour, and he's
coming. You know, it's hard for bowling
to sell stuff because the whole
wrist thing. Wrist guards. Nobody's really
going to buy it. No. He needs like a
sweatband or something. He does. There it is. That has eyes
right here. Oh, in the back.
There it is. The no fear eyes.
Boom. Send that to him to you need to send that
club to him sir please make these so you can capitalize on this incredible feat that not a
lot of people on earth can do or will ever be able to do again the mental focus there because if you
just accidentally hang on just a little bit too long a little gutter nine or a gutter yeah one
dangling what if that last one? Oh.
And he sprints down there. Also, like, the reverse flip.
Like, his elbow is probably so fucked up from doing that.
Sacrificing his body for the game.
Yeah.
Yep.
Thank you, Jim.
Thank you, Jim.
Thank you, Jim.
Love you.
We got Jordan Poyer joining us here in moments.
Let's talk about some more stuff.
Mike Vrabel has addressed the John Robinson general manager firing out of nowhere that happened yesterday. A lot of people
wondered immediately if Vrabel is now going to be a general manager, a la what Bill Belichick has
done in New England. Would Vrabel want to take on a whole nother role? He has not been named
interim general manager, but what does it mean going going forward there's reports that Vrabel would be open uh to potentially taking on a little bit more of a role allegedly these
are all reports and then Vrabel actually had a full press conference today where he talked about
his personal relationship with John Robinson and how much he appreciated him and was grateful for
him how we're being judged every single day it's a good reminder of that and then he also said that he was informed of the decision of John Robinson being fired as opposed to him wanting
to make the decision for him to be fired I think that's a key piece of information there so I guess
this is Amy Adams Strunk move wanting to become great something had happened maybe it was AJ Brown
dancing in their faces after John Robinson decided to trade him away on draft night
and Vrabel was visibly upset about that particular decision.
What's your take on this, and what do you think happens
with Vrabel, friend of yours, A.J. Hawk?
I think Vrabel will naturally have more and more say over the roster
and what's going on, kind of like a quasi-GM.
For the rest of this year, I don't know what they do in the offseason,
if he wants to continue on that path or not.
But going back to what Tone said yesterday,
does this mean it's possible that nothing really happened
and they just truly didn't like the direction John Robinson had them going?
That's very interesting if that's the case.
Darius, I think this is unprecedented for a winning team,
a team that was the number one seed in the AFC last year
after using the most amount of players on a roster
to make it into the playoffs, I believe.
What are your thoughts on Vrabel potentially becoming GM
and the firing decision itself?
Because we haven't heard that from you yet.
Yeah, I mean, I would imagine that's a tough hat to wear.
You know, not many coaches do it.
Obviously, Bill Belichick's the most noted,
and he obviously played for Belichick.
Smart player, knows both sides of the ball.
But this was shocking to fire him first week of December.
If this is a move you make, typically it's made after the season,
but I guess Amy had enough.
She saw enough once A.J. Brown came to the field.
Speaking of that, did you happen to see the video going around the Internet
of the Eagles fans after A.J. Brown scored his second touchdown
yelling at the owner's box and they didn't look too pleased?
We actually have that video, and this is Amy Adams'
Stank, Stank Strunk
box after A.J.
Brown scores another toucher. Here's Eagles
fans. Fuck you. Thank you.
They're the best. Fuck you.
Thank you.
Yeah, it's Philadelphia. You know those Johns are going to
let it be known. I mean, there's fingernail
paint red on there so you see it in the middle.
Hey, how you doing? Who's that guy? Oh, I thought it was a dude.
It might be Amy
it might be
we don't know
yeah
could be Michael Adams
drunk
yeah
not positive
yeah it's family though
allegedly of ownership
or whatever
so they had to experience
that in Philadelphia
and Amy
and the family
on the flight back
to Nashville
we ain't doing that
ever again
I just saw the
Rainbow Draft
day video too
the other day.
I had never seen that.
So, dude, him walking back with him.
Yep.
And then sitting back down.
It's just like, this motherfucker.
Like, him actually asking the question, though,
why are we trading him to, why do you think the Eagles want him?
Yeah.
And I'm saying, well, the Eagles are going on a run,
and Vrabel being like.
Weren't we the number one seed last year?
Home field advantage. Are we going on a run?
What are we... Aren't we going on a run?
What are we even trying to do? And then A.J.
Brown has it circled on the calendar.
This one, he's wide open because the
DB, so unathletic, fell all
over his fucking...
He got in the way.
Okay, okay, okay. He got ran over and then he
caught a touchdown on the shoulder pad
I mean A.J. Brown
had quite
a Sunday
and then he
took the towel out
and he spanked
the
baby
whooped the baby
didn't give him a hug
didn't give him a hug
yeah
did it cause I love you
didn't want to have to do this
but
do it cause I love you
tough love
and then the ownership
was just like
we're never doing this again
who traded A.J.
what
Fraves remind us Fraves was that you again. Who traded AJ? Fraves, remind us, Fraves.
Was that you or was that John Robinson?
And Fraves goes, well, I should be from fucking draft night.
I'll tell you all I need to know.
And he was like, you're right.
Should have fired him the day after the fucking draft night.
We didn't know this was going to happen.
John Robinson, though, has an incredible resume right now.
Four to six years as a general manager that makes playoffs.
Obviously, last year, the number one seed in the AFC with the most amount of players.
John Robinson's probably selling that somewhere.
I think I did.
100%.
He was part of the front office that brought in a lot of good players to the Patriots.
I mean, he drafted A.J. Brown.
It's not like he wasn't part of that decision.
It's just he traded.
If you're a Titans fan, we were talking about this before the show,
you're probably pretty pumped that Mike Rabel now has more say
in what they're doing.
At least on my timeline, I'm
pretty happy about firing
which, you know. You try to weigh
A.J. Brown and A.J. Brown has the year that he
has, that's going to be tough.
You know what I mean? That's going to be... Same deal when he
wanted to be there. It's not like he's
32 and getting a little long
in the tooth. He's fucking 24.
Tannehill and him after the game.
Quarterback and him after the game.
Full on DAP up.
You didn't have to do that to us is what Tannehill said.
Vrabes talking about him.
He wasn't hated in the locker room.
Wasn't a distraction at all.
Just wanted to get paid.
Wanted to be a Titan.
It really makes no sense when you lay it out like that.
It really does.
Look at the other.
Doesn't it?
It's like, what the fuck?
Why are we trading this guy?
You're right.
He's not old.
Like, he's not.
No.
Yeah.
Like, he's so young.
Yeah, I don't get it.
The other receivers in that draft class.
Like, Terry McLaurin plays for a franchise that is on fire.
And they paid him.
And then you look at Debo.
Like, they gave their left tackle more money than anybody else. I think at christian uh kirk had been paid yes tyreek devonta adams got
paid tyreek hill got paid and then the whole conversation they were trying to get paid the
other guys yeah debo and aj and uh deontay dk dk and AJ. Yep. Because who was on Miss Precious?
That was, was that AJ Brown?
AJ Brown.
And Debo.
Yeah, Debo talking to AJ Brown.
And if we go back, I'm trying to put myself back into our conversation about Miss Precious.
I think we were all chatting about how, what teams are going to spend money on the wide receiver,
and what teams are not going to spend money on the wide receiver.
And there's a lot of people saying, not going to be able to win when you pay the wide receiver
that amount of money.
Remember, Christian Kirk fucked up the whole thing.
Tyree Kill, good luck to Miami, not going to be able to win paying that type of money
to a wide receiver.
Whenever fucking, who else got paid?
Devontae?
Devontae Adams got paid.
Not going to be able to win whenever you pay a wide receiver like that.
So there were some people, I think, in the media and probably behind the scenes
that were turning their noses up at the Raiders,
turning their nose up at the Dolphins,
turning their nose up at the Jaguars for doing what they were doing,
resetting the whole market, acting as if it was a bad move.
I think John Robinson might have been a part of that whole discussion
about how this is not a good decision to pay a wide receiver
whenever we've already paid a quarterback and a running back. And I think was in the middle of that time so whenever he got traded on draft night i
remember us going oh that's because the titans didn't want to pay him but at that point we have
to remember the big thought was you're either a team that's going to pay him because you have a
young quarterback or you're not going to be able to pay a wide receiver there's no in between and
now i think we've realized like we've said all along,
the salary cap doesn't matter, so it doesn't fucking matter.
Yeah, at all.
And it doesn't hurt to add a superstar weapon onto your team
and pay said person.
I think we've figured that out now.
And I can't remember.
It's a good case study.
But didn't – I think A.J. Brown said, too, that, like,
he wanted 25 and Tennessee would not go above 20.
So, like, there was no negotiation there.
It was basically like, hey, we'll go above 20. So, like, there was no negotiation there.
It was basically like, hey, we'll offer you 20 a year for four years or whatever it was, but we're not going any higher than that.
And he was like, all right, well, I want 25.
So if that's not the case, get me the fuck out of here.
And they drafted Burks, you know, trailing Burks to replace him.
So you saw, you know, it work out for Minnesota.
You know, trading away Diggs, draft Justin Jefferson, replace him.
So maybe I'm thinking that would work for them.
Oh, yeah, I forgot about Diggs, too.
That's a little thing.
But he was labeled a distraction in Minnesota.
Yeah, yeah.
And Traylor Burks, you know, he looks good.
He has looked good so far, but he's been banged up.
So he could potentially be great, too.
But when you see what A.J. Brown is doing this year, it's like.
When you see what Tyreek's doing.
Yeah, yeah.
Devontae.
Devontae.
Because of that, that market and the thought of those guys getting moved,
it feels like teams aren't going to do that anymore.
They're going to do what they want or what they have to do to keep those guys.
When you look at the free agent wide receiver market next year, it is –
Remember these young guys.
Yeah.
These young guys allegedly are unbelievable, right?
We have the whole theory, AJ, about how one-on-ones and seven-on-seven are content now.
So guys working, it's being promoted
as opposed to like, oh, I'm going to work
and it's going to be miserable.
It's like, no, I'm making content
out of me fucking going up on somebody.
A contested catch.
I'm working on contested catches
five nights a week for content purposes.
That natural work, I think, is going to make people better.
I think it's made corners better too.
Absolutely.
I think there's younger corners that are better too.
Sauce, Woolen, it's coming.
They both look like all pros.
You know, Stingley's been banged up and he looks great.
And then to go back to his receivers, even the rookies this year,
Olave, Dotson when he's out there, Garrett Wilson.
Pickens.
Pickens, obviously, you you got to get more involved.
Drake London, Christian Watson.
You got a lot of guys just drafted coming in and making immediate impact.
So I'm sure that was John Robinson's thinking at that point.
But when you got a guy that's already proven, that's in his prime,
that's not a distraction, that's a great leader in that locker room,
I'm always leaning towards keeping those guys.
Yeah, give me a game record that we know, even though there's some on the way.
I mean, Ohio State, this wide receiver room that you have right now,
might have like five NFL guys in it.
Oh, yeah.
That's fucking absurd.
That's crazy to think about because it used to be like,
is it going to work in the NFL?
Is it not going to work?
Now it's like, oh, these young guys.
The best is coming back.
Go ahead, AJ.
Marvin will be back.
Marvin Harrison will be back.
What about what's going on with Jackson Smith and Jigba?
He's going to the league, I guess.
He said he would not have been healthy enough to play in the playoffs,
so he's declared for the draft.
What happened to him?
What was the injury?
What was it?
Was it a hamstring, I believe?
He tried to come back at one point and couldn't go after that,
and I don't know.
Damn.
Really?
What week?
One.
Early.
No way.
Well, he ripped it off the bone.
He came back for like a few snaps against.
Was it Penn State?
Week three.
I'm intrigued by that one.
It's week three.
Because he's like, what, best player on the team there.
Oh, yeah.
300 plus yards in the Rose Bowl.
Set the record.
Do you still take him, top ten?
You the GM?
I don't know.
I'm going to have to know what happened to that hamstring.
He missed an entire fucking season.
He ain't throwing off his fucking back.
What's that, pal?
Unless it's detached from his lower back and calf,
which, you know, the hamstring does connect to.
Unless it's some shit like that, I mean, come on, buddy.
Missed the whole season.
I would like to know what happened to the hamstring does connect to it. Unless it's some shit like that. I mean, come on, buddy. Missed the whole season. I mean, I would like to know what happened to the hamstring.
If I'm drafting him, what happened to the hamstring?
This thing had to be the most serious hamstring injury of all time.
I remember going into the season when I was offered the game day opportunity,
you know, and it was after the Ohio State trip.
But I was, like, learning about it.
I was pumped about fucking Jacksonson smith i'm like oh
they gotta get they got an nfl guy they gotta they gotta now granted marvin harrison jr became a guy
the guy wearing a watch while he's out there with louis vuitton nike he's doing his doing his whole
thing and everything like that but i would imagine if that guy was playing and it was it was never
talked about it's just like oh he has a hamstring. It's like, are his hamstrings okay?
Like, what?
Because hamstrings don't last four months, do they?
Do hamstrings last four?
I don't know.
I luckily never popped my hammy.
Honestly, I could be wrong.
I hope it's a hamstring.
I don't know if it is a hamstring.
That's what I'm guessing.
I think it is.
Even if it just is, too.
I mean, this is kind of par for the course in this new soft Ohio State, right?
This isn't the same thing that we we know about isn't that kind of the
entire thing that we saw in michigan holy hell i don't know i just hope he's okay long hamstring
injury going into the nfl hey look i'm i'm just talking about what i see the team in the biggest
game that they have a clock for in the weight room they got blown out at home by that team that
they count down to okay so if he pulled his hamstring week one and he's not playing, then that's just what they
are now.
Is Ohio no longer...
Is everything I say about Ohio wrong?
Is that...
No, it's not wrong.
Remember, you just have to pick it up and move it to Michigan because that's what Michigan
is.
Whoa.
Whoa.
Hey, AJ, what's going on with Ohio?
You guys getting soft over there?
Whoa.
I don't know, man.
They better show up against Georgia and I think it'll be a different narrative.
Oh, okay.
We got a bounce back opportunity.
So them making it in the college football playoff, Ohio State, who I picked and I love.
Okay?
I'm a big fan.
Okay.
Because of this guy, mostly.
Yeah.
Okay.
Because of this guy mostly.
Yeah.
The committee had to think that they laid an egg, right, against Michigan as opposed to got exposed against Michigan.
That had to be the viewing, right?
I guess.
How do they say it?
I mean, they claim they say, hey, we just want the four best teams.
That's what they say.
Okay.
So, like, what if Georgia wins by 100? Hey. What if? Bro. What if Georgia wins by 100?
Hey.
What if?
Bro.
Georgia is a wag.
Yes.
What if TCU gets beat by 60 by Michigan?
Duggan won't let that happen.
He won't.
I don't know about – let's just stay focused on Georgia-Ohio State
because I don't think it's Ohio State's fault.
I think whoever got that four seed.
Yeah.
Whoever it got. Like, if I'm Ohio State, I'm happy to be in a college football playoff. State's fault. I think whoever got that four seed. Whoever it got.
If I'm Ohio State, I'm happy to be in a college football playoff.
I'm pumped to be in there.
Obviously, it's mass exposure in any given Saturday.
Could definitely win a game.
You never know what's going to happen.
But I do fear that no matter who it was in that four seed,
we're about to run into a 25-year-old quarterback
who knows the offense inside and out
and like 20 NFL guys playing football
against college football athletes.
Great challenge.
It is a great challenge.
And it's college football.
Crazier things have happened.
They snuck in in 2014 and won it all.
Hell yeah, it was the first year of the playoff.
Everyone was playing for that team.
But that's what kind of stinks, right?
Because we never got the Bama-Georgia matchup.
I was going to say, Georgia beat the shit out of Bama.
They lost on – their both losses were on the last play of the game.
Yeah, but there was also like four games where –
Yeah, they could have lost four games.
But that's every team.
If we start getting into that, that's every team.
Georgia almost lost to Missouri.
And Kent State slowed them down.
Kent State's head coach is now offense coordinator for Colorado.
I don't mind Ohio State.
Against Georgia?
I don't mind it.
Me neither.
They got weapons.
And if they played loose.
Six and a half?
Ten?
It opened at six and a half.
It was on Sunday.
Yeah, the ten was TCU and Michigan.
And now that's down to 7.5, I believe.
Wait, who?
Who's the favorite?
Okay, so Ohio State.
Team that beat the fuck out of your team.
TCU's plus 7.5.
Michigan's 7.5 point favorite.
And Georgia's a 6.5 point this weekend.
Salute.
Take Navy this weekend.
Say what you said again, I'm sorry.
Georgia's 6.5 point favorite.
Michigan's 7.5 point favorite. Okay, so all right, let'm sorry. Georgia's six-and-a-half point favorite. Michigan's seven-and-a-half point favorite.
Okay.
So, all right.
Let's go.
Here we go.
I hope they play loose, though.
I do.
Because when they're loose and they're balling, it is exciting.
Yeah.
One way or the other.
Either you change it and, hey, here we go.
We've got a lot of hope.
Everyone's juiced.
Or, oh, no.
Two bad losses at the end of the year.
I look forward to them to show up.
I think they're going to be all right.
I think so, too.
I think they're going to have to. Because if not, over there in I think they're going to have to because if not, over there in Ohio,
it's going to get loud, right?
Oh, yeah.
Very loud, especially in Michigan.
You know, beast the fuck out of TCU and then give Georgia a run for their money.
Oh, and then all the Michigan fans that know Ohio State fans are just going to.
New era.
Sorry.
We're the big dogs in the Big Ten.
Harbaugh allegedly potentially coming back to the NFL,
either to renegotiate his Michigan contract
or to actually go to the NFL like the Indianapolis Colts, turn us around.
He has built an NFL team up there in Michigan.
As an old-school football team, as an NFL team,
he's had great success up there.
He's been able to turn it around.
I think a lot of people thought, oh, has this guy lost his magic
because of what has been going on at Michigan
in the end of the Niner run and everything like that?
He still got it.
The guy still understands football.
I thought him and Luck were going to be a pair coming back to save the Colts.
Well, I've been told by local media that Harbaugh would be the only guy
that could get maybe Luck to fall back in love with football,
but I don't think that's going to happen after you read that 45-minute article.
Absolutely not, yeah.
Luck, he's done playing football. Unless he's fucking tossing the pigskin with lucy in his front yard
he ain't fucking playing football what are you saying aj what did you sneak in there that article
was a bit like uh it was tough like tough to read i guess a lot of words in there did you end up
reading it too many i mean i read what i. I read chunks of it at a time.
I didn't sit there like Ty and read the whole thing.
It was certainly word salad, right?
I think for sure.
Why?
It sounds like, does he have any resolution or is he still confused?
I'm going to read this aloud.
This is the, can we put it over here?
This is the.
He's a good writer, huh?
This is the paragraph that really.
Too good.
Save that shit for next time.
I woke up in the morning, took my morning shit, saw this article being linked with this paragraph.
Oh, I thought that was in the article.
My bad.
Lucky.
Honestly, I really did.
No, Seth Wickersham.
Sham.
I'm just setting the tone on why I did not read the article.
Luck had started to tell himself a series of stories of being a quarterback,
of being a husband and father,
of the injury cycle providing the gift of awareness,
of having made a decision.
He told himself stories of a former football player whose story made sense,
grieving what you know best, he says.
Often until those stories made no sense. No, made sense. Grieving what you know best, he says. Often until those stories made no sense.
No, made sense, sorry.
But none of them netted out in resolution or assurance that he hoped would erase this feeling he lived with and had no choice but to try to talk out.
I'm done with it.
It's too much.
Exactly what I'm talking about.
What is it saying?
Bro, I have no idea.
Like, I know I'm an idiot.
I am.
Is there a conclusion?
Do we have a conclusion, like a two-sentence conclusion of what this says?
That would be awesome.
All we have is Ty.
All we have is Ty that read the whole thing.
Are you talking about this specific excerpt or the whole thing?
The whole thing.
Spark notes.
Yeah, he's happy.
He has come to terms with retiring, and it got to the point where it was just too much,
and now he is more interested in being a family man,
spending time with his daughter and his wife.
And he doesn't love the timing of how he went out,
but he is at peace with his decision, and he's good where he's at right now.
Thank you, Seth, for doing the work.
Thank you, Seth.
And also saying everybody's going to read this.
Let me showcase my brain.
Go ahead.
This is something that said,
luck will be potentially open to coaching.
Was that in the article too?
I don't remember.
There's so much shit from this now that's whether it's like,
was it in the article or is it like someone else?
It's a 45-minute read.
Just play.
You have a lot more free time with this family if you played.
You have an audio version of this article.
But this is the article.
Into the wild.
But does it say, Ty, in the article,
does it give the impression that it wasn't as easy as he thought to walk away?
I think the biggest thing was, like,
just how much he had to commit to being a quarterback and playing football
was basically, like, tearing his life apart.
He ain't coaching, then.
I'll tell you that.
I don't think he's coaching.
We have a conversation. We have a conversation.
We have a guest.
We have a person waiting right now who could potentially earn $1 million to his foundation.
That's right.
Hell yeah.
All he needs is seven more picks this NFL season.
Very doable.
Got playoffs involved too.
Playoffs count as well, even though for the record they do not.
But playoffs will involve.
The NFL tried to screw this man out of a pick.
We said, don't worry about what the NFL or the refs say.
We will count it towards our count.
This man has obviously been a friend of the program.
He's an all-pro.
He's a fucking superstar.
Ladies and gentlemen, safety for the Buffalo Bills.
You see him with that elbow thing on.
Still flying around.
Tough guy, Jordan Poyer.
What's up, dude? What's up, boys? Hey, how are you doing? How's that elbow?
Do you have that big thing on all the time?
I can't complain.
I gotta wear it the rest of the year.
It is what it is. I ain't worried about it.
Does it slow you down at all?
No.
It makes it look kind of badass, actually.
Don't you think it kind of looks badass out there?
Hell yeah. How y'all boys doing, man? It makes it look kind of badass, actually. Don't you think it kind of looks badass out there with the Vionic on?
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah.
Hey, why'd they take that? How y'all boys doing, man?
I appreciate y'all having me on.
Come on, we're good.
AJ, how are you doing?
Good?
I'm doing great.
You got any metal in that thing you can use as a weapon to maybe swipe someone's in the
helmet every once in a while when you're making a tackle?
I can't say that on camera, man.
Smart.
Smart.
That's smart.
Smart, AJ trying to make you Snitch on yourself obviously
Jordan, how are you feeling?
How is life? Obviously we had the punctured
Lung where we had to drive for a game
All the way across the country
Now we got the elbow, we just learned today
Von Miller gonna be out with an ACL tear
That's no fun, how are you?
Obviously that Von news is big
How's the team feel about it all, Jordan?
Yeah man, first off I'm great Thanks for asking that Vaughn news is big. How does the team feel about it all, Jordan? Yeah, man.
First, I'm great.
Thanks for asking.
Yeah, that Vaughn news is huge, man.
It's tough.
I was telling the media earlier, I mean, you can't replace a guy like Vaughn Miller.
He's a great teammate, Hall of Fame player.
Great teammate, great player.
Just somebody who I've learned so much in the game from.
And, you know, we're going to miss him.
But I also told some of the younger guys, some of the young DM young dns man it's a great opportunity for you to step up guys like
greg guys like boogie aj um got you know just a great opportunity for them to step up something
that they've been doing all season long but you know just more more life for them to be able to
go out there and make plays you can't replace a guy like bob miller but we do got the right guys
in the locker room to be able to go handle the situation. Awesome.
Hey, we know you've fought through so much,
like so many physical things throughout this season and obviously your whole career.
We've seen the picture of your elbow.
It looks like you have an alien growing off the back of it,
whatever that is, man.
It looks painful.
I know you had to drive to a game.
You couldn't fly with the team.
Has that always been your mentality?
Like you're just going to go, you're going to play and not worry about it
because that's not always the case, especially now.
Isn't there a contract too somewhere in this whole thing? You're old school, go. You're going to play and not worry about it because that's not always the case, especially now. Isn't there a contract, too, somewhere in this whole thing?
You're old school, Jordan.
You are.
I love the game, man.
I love the game.
So, as soon as I get the okay to play, it's like, why not, man?
I love this game so much.
I love my teammates.
I love being out there between the lines, bro.
I mean, it's no other feeling other than going out there on Sunday,
Monday, whatever day of the week it is,
and playing NFL football with your boys.
And so both of those times that I got the okay to go and play,
I was all for it.
Driving to Kansas City, something that I'll never forget,
I'll be able to look back on and be like, yeah, I did some shit like that.
That was dope.
And we got the win, too, so it was cool.
But, you know, I love this game, man. I love my teammates, and I love playing out here in Buffalo.
Yeah, they're lucky to have you out there.
Big win, that ride home after a loss.
Whoa.
Darius, your question.
I'd have been tough.
Tough.
Absolutely.
Hey, Jordan, I'm going to ask you a little bit about the team you're facing this week.
Obviously got a new quarterback, Mike White in there,
instead of Zach Wilson from back in week nine. How much different does the offense look, or is it pretty much the same with just a new quarterback, Mike White in there, instead of Zach Wilson from back in week nine.
How much different does the offense look, or is it pretty much the same with just a new general back there?
No, I would say it definitely looks different.
I would say the energy of the team is playing at a higher level.
I would say that he's distributing the ball to a lot of his playmakers, his running backs, his tight ends, his receivers.
I would see Garrett Wilson being a huge threat in the pass game.
And the way he's playing the game right now, he's playing at a high level.
And I don't see why in a couple years he's not gonna be a top receiver in
the league.
I mean, he's breaking tackles, he's run out to catch, breaking tackles,
the same with the backs in the backfield.
So Mike White, he's delivering the ball and letting his playmakers make plays.
And for us, we're gonna have to play well to win.
We're gonna have to tackle well, we're gonna have to communicate well.
Always playing at home, it's always harder to communicate because of our crowd.
But, you know, we're going to have to, like I said,
just being able to communicate and tackle.
And it's a good football team coming in here.
So, ain't no sleeping on the New York Jets.
I promise you that.
Hell, yeah.
It's a good football team coming in here.
And, you know, they beat us last time.
So, it's almost, you know, come on now.
Come on now.
We got to play the game, you know.
Absolutely.
Good for the Jets, by the way.
That whole conversation wasn't the same about them just a few years back ty your question for jordan poyer yeah jordan patten
mentioned you know the potential uh donation to your charity if you pick up these interceptions
do you think there's any chance you're maybe going to press a little bit here as the season
you know kind of reaches towards 10 and also don't want you to throw anybody under the bus
but are you a little pissed that Zach Wilson's not playing this weekend
because you probably add three-four to the total?
Pressure builds diamonds, first of all.
I love pressure.
Keep giving me the pressure.
I don't care.
That's cool.
Second of all, like I said, Mike White, he's a good quarterback.
Last year we played him.
I mean, he'd be the one at first to tell you he wish he had four of those
throws back when we played him last year because we picked him off five times.
So it's a game that we're going to – I mean, we're excited to play, man.
I mean, I know he's probably got it pinned on his calendar, ready to play us.
And, you know, it's going to be one of them dogfight AFCs type of –
I think it's going to be wet and cold out here too.
So tune in.
Tune in.
It's going to be one of those games. It's going to be one of those games.
It's going to be one of those games.
There's going to be mustard.
Oh, yeah.
They catch up out in the parking lot.
There's going to be a lot of videos coming.
That's Tony Under.
I don't know.
I'm 17 last year.
What are you talking about?
It's Bill's Mafia.
What do you mean you don't know?
I know.
I know.
My brother goes to those and he says it's wild.
I've never actually been to one.
I'm going to go when I retire.
I'm going to go when I retire. But the cow when i retire but the oh i don't know full bottles i mean it's
crazy i mean it is a full it's a celebration too it's not like you're getting punked no it's like
no you're lucky dousing bildos and mustard oh catch hey how many bildos this year oh it's just
for the patriots yeah that's right connor Yeah, that's right. Connor, your question for Jordan Porter.
Speaking of the Pats, it was awesome to watch you guys beat the fuck out of that team.
Not really.
But looking at the secondary, obviously it stinks you lost Von Miller,
but how awesome is it to have Tredavious White back
and kind of not have to worry about one side of the field when he's on there?
Yeah, man, just his presence alone,
it makes everyone else on the defense feel comfortable.
I mean, a guy who's been in this league a long time, played at a high level.
And like you said, I mean, when he's in the game, it's almost like you can don't worry about that side of the field and kind of put all your pressure and all your vision to this side because you know he's going to handle that.
So it's awesome to have a guy like Tredavious back in the lineup for us.
I know he's been on the pitch count the last couple of weeks, but like I said, even his presence out there,
it makes the whole defense feel a lot more comfortable out there.
Tom.
Jordan, now that Vaughn's out,
has he passed the baton to an active player
as far as the final recruitment of OBJ to the Bills?
Hey, I heard that's available.
Oh, yeah.
I heard that's available right now.
That's above my pay grade.
Okay.
Hey, I enjoy that.
Do you hear all the rumors about that type of stuff?
Do you keep up with it, or do you try to lock all that shit out?
If you're here, you're here.
I mean, it's trending every day on Twitter,
so it's kind of hard not to really see.
You see Odell's name trending every day on Twitter.
It's like, oh, where is he going today?
I didn't even know he was coming out here today.
He came out here.
So, I mean, see what happens.
See what happens.
You've talked about the culture of that locker room with us before
about playing cards and really, no offense to Buffalo,
but where you guys are at, there's not a lot to do.
And with the weather, it's kind of locked in.
Do you have that same vibe with this team as you did last team?
And how would you compare the culture and the family feel with this team
as opposed to years past?
I mean, this culture's tight, man.
We had a Christmas party the other night, ugly sweater Christmas party.
There were some ugly, ugly sweaters coming in, but the whole team came, vibed out.
I mean, there ain't nothing a whole lot to do out here other than hang out,
always playing Call of Duty with each other off the field.
We're always just hanging out with each other.
All of our wives are close with each other.
Especially this time of year, it's gray out there cloudy you're not really outside much by the time you leave the facility it's still dark anyway so
um we're always hanging out though the coach was big out here he's been doing it for a long time
that's nice to hear go ahead aj it's very nice to hear is josh stallion like the toughest guy
on the planet we thought this dude his, his elbow was going to fall off,
and he goes out there and he's slinging it like nothing happened.
Like, he has to be in pain.
Like, what makes this guy – like, this dude is special, I feel like,
obviously, and we're seeing more and more of it every week.
He's not from this planet.
I'll tell you that.
He's not from here.
He's from somewhere else.
Somewhere else where they make big, gigantic quarterbacks
and just run people over and hurl them and throw the ball 90 yards down the field.
I don't know.
With a broken elbow.
It's crazy to see some of the plays that he made,
even in the New England game last week, getting out of the tackle
and flipping the ball to motor underhand,
or even the touchdown that he threw to Gabe kind of falling off to the side
and throwing it behind.
I'm sitting on the sideline like, damn, I'm just glad he's on our team.
Having to stop a guy like that.
I mean, you see Pat Mahomes, but Pat Mahomes might not lower his shoulder against you or even hurdle you.
Josh will hurdle you and lower his shoulder.
And I mean, that's just sometimes I'm sitting there like, Josh, slide.
Yeah, yeah.
It's like, ah, okay, you know, good.
He gets up.
All right, all right, all right. Good run, good run, good run. But, I mean okay, you know, good. He gets up. All right, all right, all right.
Good run, good run, good run.
But, I mean, that's him, bro.
He's going to go out there and he's going to put it on the line for his teammates.
And, I mean, when he makes plays like that,
it only brings the rest of the team along with him.
It's like, oh, damn, Josh out there.
He's hurling people like, let's go, D.
Like, damn, he out there throwing his body on the line like, let's go.
So, you know, it's that energy that he brings.
And like I said, he's not from the planet.
He's not from this planet.
Hey, are you ready?
Before we let you go, just want to ask about the holiday season.
Have you watched any Christmas movies?
Have you gotten into the spirit?
Do you have lights up or is it all ball and time over there?
I do have lights up.
My wife put lights up.
I have two Christmas trees. Yay!
Humans, humans. We're living like humans out here. Yes, we have two Christmas lights up. My wife put lights up. I have two Christmas trees. Okay. Humans. Humans.
We're living like humans out here.
Yes.
We have two Christmas trees up.
My daughter likes the Grinch-themed Christmas tree.
I don't know why, but it's a whole Grinch-themed Christmas tree.
Best movie.
We have another tree downstairs.
So holiday spirits are going.
They're in the flow.
They're in the motion.
So, yeah.
Happy holidays, everybody.
Grinch, best movie?
Best holiday movie, Grinch?
It's a top.
It is a top.
It's a top.
Home Alone is pretty good.
Two?
Two or one?
They're both good.
I like the first one.
Okay.
Two's New York.
First one, obviously, at home in Chicago.
Very nice house.
Gorgeous.
Very nice. Oldies, but goodies.
Oldies, but goodies.
Yeah, it's because you're old school Porter
that's what you are
enjoy the holiday season
football matters in
Buffalo
you're the best man
I appreciate you guys
you guys take it easy
I'll talk to you soon
hey seven more
I'll get em
I'll get em
look at that
here we go
the whole fucking graphic
alright he's gone
ladies and gentlemen
Jordan Porter
yeah
speaking of winner we have a winner whenever we get a chance to learn All right, he's gone. Ladies and gentlemen, Jordan Porter. Yeah!
Speaking of winner, we have a winner whenever we get a chance to learn.
From one of the best football minds in all of microphone conversation,
ladies and gentlemen, it's time for Everything DB with Darius Butler.
Darius Butler.
Let's go, let's go.
Let's look at my dolphins.
All right, obviously 49ers, they handle business.
They got the dub. Tua, Tua was off off had an off day on sunday in my opinion didn't play great missing a lot of
easy throws that were out there this point in the game i was excited i thought we were coming back
but this is a huge play uh ran a quarters beater down here so what's going to happen is i believe
it's a shirt field in the slot you're coming out empty he's going to run, clear this linebacker, run across this field to influence that safety.
As soon as this quarterback sees this safety come down
and show this crosser any love,
the fastest man in the world is going to be running a deep,
big post outside leverage channel quarters.
You're going to see it open up.
He's going to bite it.
Aggressive player, great player,
probably having a pro bowl year back here at Hufanga but this is how you take advantage of
that at the quarterback position obviously got to get that chip on Nick Bosa to slow him down
but you see it right there thing opened up like the red sea once Hufanga bit down on that crossing
route now the I mean this is this is a great, obviously, and you got Hill running that post route.
So this is going to be tough, very tough to stop.
But great play design, great throw.
Obviously not, you know, Phil letting it stride, full speed.
I mean, that's easy as it gets.
But once again, let me say it one more time from the wide.
Yep.
As this quarter safety, especially knowing who's out there and knowing that your corner out here is outside
leverage now the coaching point here would be ward squeeze this shoulder a little bit more
understand your outside leverage and know who you're playing against because he just kind of
stayed running this path when tyree hill goes to go across but as this safety we can live and line
up again if they throw this crossing route you You see Warner try to flip his hips late.
So if Tua throws this crosser,
you know, one of these guys will probably get him on
the ground. Hey, look at two of the balls
out before. Look how early Tua throws this ball too.
Soon as he sees, running back,
soon as he sees,
because this play is designed
to do exactly what it does.
So soon as he sees that, he
knows exactly where he's going with that ball.
And Tua has to throw this ball at this point because, once again,
he's throwing it to the fastest man in the world.
I think there's a chance that Ufanga,
I think there's a chance he thinks Tua is only throwing that crossing route.
Is that what you're thinking, AJ, here while watching this?
And he's almost got a good read on it.
He's like, there's no way he's going over my head here.
He's breaking on intentions.
Like, look, Tua cocks the ball back to throw, he's he's breaking but he's going throwing it right behind the ball
placement of the play man the ball placement is also going right over his head right now
so eyes probably lined up same place i mean those corners are i think it's a safety in a corner on
the top of the screen like are they not supposed to be that close uh it's on the opposite side of
the field it's kind of right when he throws it they're like five yards away from each other are they no so this is once again quarter so they got their
split the field in half so they got their set of issues down here and they got theirs up there so
they're doing exactly what they're supposed to do once two goes flat he's not a vertical threat
this safety he's going to help and undercut that one route and then the um the corner just climb
but uh this is a tough once again this is a tough route that's exactly what this route is meant to do influence that safety and
leave that corner on the island one-on-one outside leverage with tyreek hill running away from it
paloma lou same type of hey yeah it's gonna happen every once in a while that's gonna happen
every once in a while what's nice is we were just able to have a nice like spirited but like not
yelling conversation about toula man as a show
that always that's the argument that was all screaming and tell your blue in the
face what's your guys doing this what's going on what oh you don't know I don't
know I actually don't give ourselves a bunch of flowers I'll have us just a
conversation to not you obviously you know what's happening I did once I heard We should give ourselves a bunch of flowers for being able to have just a conversation about Tua.
Obviously, you know what's happening.
I did once.
I heard Tony say that.
And then when I said, bruh, I did remind myself, oh, that's what they're talking about.
All right.
Let's move on.
Do you think, D-Bud, any part of that?
Are they giving Shurfield a little bit more respect because he had that, like, 74-yard touchdown to start the game?
And they just kind of maybe, like sink the course a little bit more?
Honestly, that's his response.
This is his responsibility, you know, how the defense is built.
If he goes vertical and clears that linebacker, nobody else is.
You got two up.
Yeah, that's two up.
That's two up and over.
So that's his route as a quarter defender.
And then if you go back to the beginning.
How will they play it again?
If they run that again, the exact play, how will they play it now?
He will probably.
Kind of screwed.
Yeah, he'll probably just pass it off, honestly,
and then the right throw would be to throw it to Sheffield, right?
So this is a good play design for this coverage.
And he's going to have the tough down.
Everybody has to wear the hat in the down.
And this is seven.
And outside leverage, I mean, with 10 runaway view,
with all that green grass, impossible to guard that.
You just said it's a great play design for this coverage.
It seems like every week the Dolphins are on here with a great play design
for whatever coverage.
So the first play of the game, actually, it was kind of like a jet motion.
Yeah.
So last week we had it happen with the Cardinals were on defense
and Justin Herbert was the quarterback, and he found the receiver running up.
So it happened the opposite.
This way they cut loose. Shurfield, who just kind of came off the line like this, and Justin Herbert was the quarterback, and he found the receiver running up. So it happened the opposite.
This way they cut loose.
Shurfield, who just kind of came off the line like this,
he hit him and then split the safeties and went 75.
So you usually see a lot of pre-snap motions and shift of the Dolphins.
This is just alignment.
And then an empty, if you run it to the tight copy, an empty in quarters especially is always a little more conversation, too.
So you'll see whatever communication they're having between this defenders so as that corner outside in quarters
it's already like a man call you're already thinking man coverage pretty much outside leverage
and if anything takes this safety away it's going to be a tough down so this is a great um you know
54 does a great job flipping his hips so he throws the 14 maybe tackles him but this is a tough tough
play to stop do you think this is potentially uh andy reed type season where mcdaniel's gonna run
out of plays or concepts and everybody's gonna know what he's up to because that happened for
a long time with andy reed then he got patrick mahomes and he had travis kelsey and he had tyree
kill and he was able to continue to draw plays and schemes for the rest of the season wins the
super bowl now there's no such thing as andy reed season andy reed seasons all season we're happy
for him that that is the case.
It used to be like first 11, first 12 weeks, Andy Reid would fucking slice and dice you.
Then it's almost he ran out of everything and everybody kind of locked him down.
Everybody knew what he was going to do.
That has obviously completely changed with Mahomes and the Chiefs and everything like that.
But for a long time that was thought.
Is that a chance here or no?
They're fucking innovative and Mike McDaniel's a guy. They're innovative and Tua,, you know, being able to read coverages quick and being accurate and quick with the ball.
Now, he wasn't accurate, in my opinion, this week.
You know, he made obviously some good throws, this being one of them.
But there were a lot of throws that were open against a great defense,
but he just missed, most of the time high for some reason.
He was missing high last week, especially in the first half.
But I think Mike McDaniel will be fine.
Hey, I'll tell you what. Two is a righty, too. Remember that. Yeah, yeah. Think about that. But I think Mike McDaniel will be fine. Hey, I'll tell you what.
Two is a righty, too.
Remember that.
Yeah, yeah.
Think about that.
Watch him throw that ball.
All right.
So, run this one real quick because I want to – is this the – I think this is the
one where he flips the back.
And Kevin O'Connell kind of alluded to this real quick.
Slowing.
So, when offenses do this little – that one little movement, one, two, three guys
now are doing something different post-snap, right? Right before the start. Just that one little movement one two three guys now are doing something different
post snap right right before just that one movement so this is kind of like what uh coach
okano was talking about kind of slowing down good athletes but they end up picking up this coverage
picking up these routes i believe how they wanted to run it back but jalen hurst does a good job
reading once again these safeties the depth of these safeties
it looks like some type of quarters concept down here and then him just saying hey you lock this
backside corner because the thing about quarters once you send any zone really once you send four
to a side usually there's some type of adjustment on defense we used to say hey pass one back so
basically whoever comes back whoever this backside defender is you'll be able to pick them up. So what happens here is that
backside defender is the safety. He's going to pick up this tight angle on vertical, which is
going to leave Devontae Smith completely isolated on the backside. Once Jalen Hurts sees these
safeties, he knows this safety won't be, he can't impact the route. Once he sees him come down,
he knows exactly where he's going with the ball, accurate with the ball.
He had a nice double team on
A.J. Brown, but when you do that
on Swole Batman, you got Skinny
Batman on the other side doing his thing
and Jalen Hurts, obviously,
as a great quarterback should do,
identifies, you see his eyes,
nose goes back to his one-on-one,
accurate throw, boom. Damn.
Tud. Not fighting fair.
Yeah.
So that's actually, I feel like the defense executed what they wanted to.
But once again, the offensive players get paid.
Oh, this is that dude play.
Yeah.
Yeah, that dude right there is going to make a play.
Yeah.
Have we seen enough now that we are done worrying about Jalen Hurts throwing the football?
I mean, I'm completely fine with him throwing the football.
Absolutely.
Because this Titans team, you know, this is a good ball club.
Whoever's out there, verbal, we're having them ready to go.
And he had his way.
A.J. Bryant a couple.
Devontae had one.
Hurts scored.
Miles Sanders scored.
So this offense, man, it's potent.
And these guys up front, man, like watching these guys on film,
these dudes communicate communicate like pressure looks
it don't matter they pick it all up and then Jalen Hurst has got to find his guys who usually if you
leave any of them one-on-one more times than not they're gonna win and the design runs I have for
Jalen yeah like you can kind of see Simmons just stand up and kind of just hang out with Kelsey
like because he can run like that does that just change all the thoughts for the pass rushers that
they're not just getting off the ball even when it's an empty set
because he might be running?
Yeah, sometimes it does.
It was actually another clip from this game where you'll see two linemen
just kind of stop and almost like not spy,
but in that one I think Simmons just kind of felt the double team.
He just felt like, hey, I'm not going to get home, so let me just, you know,
you see the great ones just put their hand up and get a paw on it.
I feel like that's kind of what he did there.
But, yeah, for sure.
You're always thinking about that.
You know what I appreciate?
I appreciate the fact that this motion is so late.
Yeah.
Because everybody's figuring out what they are.
I got this guy.
I got this guy.
I got this guy.
Everybody's making that decision.
And then what?
Half a second before the ball snapped?
Oh, shit.
Look at this.
You got a full point, a whole new set of rules basically and guidelines right for the whole
defense that you thought was and then boom ball snapped you're already fucked yeah because remember
uh way back one of those early slides that i had on every coverage you know the zone coverage is
hey do i got two weak two strong three strong three and then once you go four strong like aj
mentioned that time bunches also you have to have some type of adjustment. So doing that, like you said, to your point, doing it late, that just causes that little hesitation.
And once again, Titans, I feel like still execute it well, but then it just becomes, hey, my guy's better than your guy.
Well, damn. Here we go.
Speaking of a guy being better than your guy, Geno Smith has been a dude this year.
Should be getting some MVP conversation as well.
He's been throwing the ball just as good
or better than everyone else in the
league right now. These two receivers
are doing their thing. DK Metcalf, he's down
here. Tyler Lockett, he's up top.
We're going to get a deep crossing route from
TJ Lockett. I mean, yeah, Tyler Lockett.
I'm sorry. Cut split too. Yep, cut
split. So he's on the top of those numbers.
Tight end, basically in the protection set.
And then we got a cover three on defense now
Cover three carry we've seen it played differently even with the Rams you saw him do zone drops before but this is gonna be more
Of a carry but once again this number one receiver what Tyler lock is gonna do here
So he's gonna be the down safety
He's gonna run underneath the, which basically tells this corner, I don't
have to carry this guy across the field.
If he was to go over the top of this down safety, he would have to carry him.
But what he does is he goes underneath this safety and then climbs and runs the crossing
route.
Geno Smith does great job, great movement in the pocket.
So he identifies, he sees some potential pressure coming.
Boom.
They come.
So it's end up being 303 deep.
And now he crosses and climbs.
Oh, wow.
Right now you only have one, two, three, four, five, six in coverage since we're sending five.
So you lose that one extra underneath defender.
And what you're thinking is, hey, we're sending pressure.
So we're going to allocate some more resources on the pressure.
But that means you lose them on the back end.
So instead of having seven in coverage, which is usually four under three deep,
you got three under three deep, which we've been seeing all year.
And if he can manipulate this pocket, find time, give his receiver time,
which he does, to get down and then climb
wide open.
And then you got DK, like, clearing out almost, right?
Is this to DK, or is he just a clear?
DK is running this route like he's getting the ball, just like he should.
And this is obviously a viable option on this play as well.
This is third and seven.
So he had his option here from, you know, DK.
Actually, up top, too.
He had a fucking step, too.
And that's a legit track star right there.
Good one.
Texas.
All these guys are really open, honestly.
Everyone's open on this one.
So when you send pressure, you got to give something up on the back end.
So that's what happens here.
So, yeah.
These guys are open.
That's wild.
Geno steps in the pocket and I guess picks his poison.
Tyler Lockett here, get the ball, cuts back, gets in the zone.
So that's what Geno Smith has been doing all year.
Did you see the play?
For a guy AQ, though, got to be able to have a pocket for that type of play to execute.
So you got to build.
That's why everybody's open because everybody's protecting. One time real quick from the tight copy.
The back copy.
You'll see it.
You'll see it goes into a double count.
They show pressure, so they show their hand.
Running back.
Running back comes across. He does a good job.
DJ Dallas. Good job,
DJ.
D-Butt, you know on this blitz
right here, if you run it back,
we don't know what their rules may be,
but a lot of times 54, he's got to go underneath that back
so whoever's wrapping, like you have one inside, one over the top.
I don't know if that's the rules or not.
Yeah, let me see it.
Like you might need to cross face here on this back.
Like bam to cross face underneath so he can't step up like that.
So then 97.
That's really tough to do because 54 saw like the back did a hell of a job
picking him up at the last minute.
And he did a good job not really giving it away, too,
because a lot of times backs will be looking like they'll be back there
and they'll kind of be, you know, scanning and be like, okay,
if that guy comes, that's what.
But his eye was kind of straight forward.
But he knew exactly where he was going in protection.
That was a great job all of them were executing up front
and then obviously executing on the back end.
Look at Geno, dude. Look at fucking Geno. Geno's poised. Look where the ball is. Look at and obviously execute on the back end. She know, dude, look at fucking Gino's poise.
Look where the ball is.
You know, it looks like a drill.
It looks like you stepped up with the ball.
Like wristband.
So calm.
Touch.
Dime.
Yeah.
Good ball.
So Gino's been doing it all year, man.
Obviously.
Hey, congrats to Gino.
Shout out.
Shout out to Gino.
Seriously. Mountaineer Shout out to Gino. Seriously.
Mountaineer.
Hell yeah,
dude.
Honestly.
I would say the DK and Ramsey
rivalry is awesome.
When DK went in motion
and said,
fucking come follow me.
Yeah,
that was dope.
DK scored.
Yeah,
he scored.
He scored the game.
Has the Rams just given up?
Probably should.
Three guys are wide open.
Yeah,
exactly.
And then even like Lockett,
like the,
just the effort to like try to
tackle him right there. Like it's just not there. It's like, ah, fuck it. You know, he's at the 10, but just the effort to like try to tackle him right there,
like it's just not there.
It's like, ah, fuck it.
You know, he's at the 10, but he's going to score.
This has been a rough year for L.A., man, rough year.
Obviously, you lost your quarterback now.
He's most likely out for the year.
Aaron Donald's back.
Is he retiring?
I hope not.
Me too.
I think he's got juice left in the tank.
But, I mean, if he does, great career.
He's fought and battled through a ton.
I know his wife's been through some things as well.
Yeah, she's been.
So, you know, if he retired.
Hall of Fame.
Once again, played a long, long career.
So, I made a ton of money.
And won the Super Bowl, man.
So, definitely.
What about Aaron Donald?
Do you think he's coming back?
Ooh.
Ooh.
Only wanted to play eight years.
Retired my parents.
They might be on the same page with Sean McVay.
Hey, Matt, what you doing?
You coming back?
All right, I'll be back.
I mean, Donald, there's no way, because he was going to retire last year,
sent the letter and everything.
You think Aaron's going to go out like this?
No way what?
What?
There's no way he comes back is what Connor says.
I don't think he's going to come back.
I mean, he went through the shitty years, and then they finally got good,
and they won the Super Bowl.
And now.
Yeah, he went to two of them.
I mean, there's two different ways to look at it.
Yeah.
Like Aaron's not going to go out like this.
Or he was like, fuck, should have retired.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Literally both answers could happen right now.
But if you're a Rams fan.
If you know Pat Hills.
There's an opportunity.
Well, yeah, he's saying he's coming back.
He's not going to go out like that is what Diggs is saying.
But you might be staring...
Rams might be
staring down a fucking...
The light at the end of that tunnel is a long way.
Oh, man. It seems like
if they go, Sean's out of there.
That's what I'm saying. So it would have to be a full...
It would be an entire... Bobby Wagner,
will he continue?
I thought he only signed a two-year deal last year.
So he's on the last year of his... And then one of those was basically a void year, will he continue? I thought he only signed a two-year deal last year, so he's on the last year of his.
And then one of those was basically a void year, wasn't it?
I think it's pretty much like a one-year deal.
And Jalen, what's Jalen got?
Probably a couple years left, but he'll probably have it.
If they blow everything up, they'll definitely have to trade him.
Oh, no, Rams fans.
Is that happening right now?
If they shut it down, you'll know pretty quickly in these next couple weeks.
People start hitting the IR.
It's tough to go out there when you got, you know, we just signed Baker Mayfield.
He's the future.
Picked him off of the way.
It's true.
Top 20 quarterback.
You're a guy.
Hey, I lied to you guys' faces.
I know.
Dead ass wrong.
No.
You got to be honest.
You know, as of right now As of right now
You know
Baker stinks
He stinks
No
But you know
Let's hope he turns around
For the credibility
For my credibility
I was
I was in Baker's corner
Hey
If he gets a fair chance
He can play with an injury
He can be in the top 20
But ah
Fuck it
I was in his corner as well
What's that?
I was in his corner as well
It always happens.
Speaking of matchups, Jalen Ramsey, this will be his matchup.
Oh, that'll be fun.
Next week, so that'll be fun.
But Flea Flicker here from the gun, which is a little different than I've seen it,
but I'm sure people have been running it more this year.
So you got a Flea Flicker here from the gun.
Hand it off to your running back.
Obviously, he steps up, throws it back.
This is a shot area, okay, in the alumni section between the 40s. But what happens here, so this is a shot area okay between the in the alumni section between the 40s but what happens
here so this is a reason why it's the alumni section all the rich people are getting tickets
in this area oh yeah right this is where this is where all the money's at we're gonna take our
shots right in front of the alumni make it look good so this looks like cover six so half coverage
down here quarters coverage up here which is the perfect coverage to have on this back side because technically both of these dbs actually have some run responsibility so this safety and quarters
always has run responsibility so if he sees run game he comes down if this wide receiver crack
blocks him this corner is responsible to replace him in the run game uh the only way they i think
this backside safety i think think it's Derwin,
could see that something's up is reading this uncovered guard.
You'll see.
You can watch, let the play run from here.
But that's an absolute dime.
Sante Samuel, Jr. Running back from the beginning.
Oh, no, pal.
No, that was on Callahan, actually.
That was on the slot defender.
Well.
But it was a good route, too.
But pause it real quick. So I was taught. I don't know how defender. Well. But it was a good route, too. But pause it real quick.
So I was taught, I don't know how AJ was taught,
running back to the beginning before they move.
If you're back here trying to get a run read,
the easiest way to get a good run read is to read this uncovered guard.
Right?
Because the cover one, it can get blurred.
But if this guy steps back or just goes across elephants on parade,
most likely that's a pass key.
If this guy climbs or punches up and actually looks like he's trying to get to the next level, that's a run key.
So right now, what all these offensive linemen are doing, this looks like a pass.
But this happens fast as shit.
So he's stuck now.
He's up.
And now you've got Nickelback nickelback who remember on that back side
that's half we run it back from the wide copy real quick so this is a great play design great
execution he barely gets his ball off but this is half defenders right so he's a he's a flat
defender so he has run responsibility he does not he should stay back but he's so he comes off slow
you see how davante comes off slow and he's gonna put his foot in the ground and go see he's climbing up he's trying to get back over here boom so it's once again just nothing with
green grass so great play design great execution but once again this is a shot are his knuckles
white or his knuckles red hey jay that's what we're reading out here you're reading high hat
high hat low hat high hat you know it's passed. Watch the helmets.
Standing up directly
first. Obviously the toughest
time to get those type
of reads are like RPOs when the linemen go
two yards downfield, but nobody
really moves past the line of
scrimmage here. But once again, this is tough. This shit happens
fast, and he has a gap
in the run game, but this is a great play design.
Devontae Adams has been going
scorched earth these last
few weeks. Kind of a slow
flea flick.
They look like they're moving in slow motion.
They ran in New England when they would run this
and sometimes, and obviously
McDaniels was there, sometimes the running back would even
juke to the left side of the line and then
throw it back. That's tough.
Delay a little bit longer. Delay even longer.
Suck them all up.
Suck them all up.
Suck them all up.
Suck those DBs.
All the way up.
All the way up.
And linebackers, too.
That's right.
A lot of sucking.
All right, let's go.
Alexander, man, it's going to be single high safety.
What?
Single high safety.
Look, Jair, there's Alexander down here at the bottom.
Fair enough.
I mean, it's going to be great.
I like this play, Zeke.
What's that?
Zeke, you're going to love this play, pal.
Here you go, Zeke.
Hey, this is what a $20 million a year corner is like.
That's right.
That's why you pay him.
Reading this, Justin Fields, back foot, throws this maybe a pinch late.
That's a great, great run by a veteran corner.
And when Chuck was up here a few
weeks back, I believe it was Green Bay, Tennessee,
Thursday Night Football, he talked about this corner.
And you run the normal route
tree on him, he's clued in.
He's ready to go. You get him with double
moves, with different type of routes. But you run this
type of route on him, young
quarterbacks, he's going to get these.
He's going to give something up. But he's going to get these. He's going to give something up,
but he's going to get some of these.
No other place.
Kevin White had a great catch on him.
Great catch.
Was it Kevin White?
Equinemius St. Brown.
Maybe the same guy.
Is it because he keeps his eyes in the backfield the entire time
why the double move is good?
He's a veteran. He has great movement.
You can see he's so efficient in his plant drive a pick we had weeks ago when he picked jared golf off uh knowing the route tree and this is uh not worried about getting beat deep either
d but like he looks very confident okay i'm cool here i don't need to i need to bail ever at all
so this is um a dice route so this is a a basic route So we call it a dice route because he now he doesn't this is almost like a five dice
So he could end up here as well
But you get curl you get curl flat flat and that's typically makes it an easy read for this quarterback
So soon as he's running back, please soon as you see this curl flat
Expand to the flat that tells the quarterback I'm throwing a curl
So as soon as he goes out wide,
that lets him know exactly where he's going with the ball. Same thing up here. If he expands with
that flat route, he's going right to that curl. So Justin Phil makes the right read here. And a lot
of times, you're going to see this as a bang-bang catch in the NFL, honestly. He runs this a little
bit deeper, but as a veteran corner, you understand the different break areas. Okay, the first five
and six yards, we're getting a short game.
Then as you get downfield, okay, do they run their curls at 14, at 16, at 18?
So this is film study.
This is anticipation, obviously confidence.
And obviously he's played a lot of downs in his league,
got paid a lot of money for a reason.
This is the reason why. You think the Packers can go on a run, win out, and possibly have a chance?
They're not in it. They're still in it. Mathematically. You think the Packers can go on a run and win out and possibly have a chance?
They're not in it.
They're still in it.
Mathematically.
Honestly, I do not.
Okay.
Well, freezing cold takes.
Have at it.
All right.
I said Baker Mason is the top 20 quarterback.
Got to be honest, he said.
Got to tell the truth.
Got to be transparent here as a pundit in the NFL these days.
Next play.
Harrison Smith running to the ball.
Ends up getting a pick.
Now, there's some good and bad from this.
This is a good play, though.
Pause it real quick.
Right here is his safety.
This is a young safety.
Bynum ends up getting a game-winning, game-sealing interception here.
But when you top this, when you stand right behind this nickelback,
a veteran quarterback knows right now, high, high, high chance.
A.Q. Shipley knows right now.
He looks right here.
He knows there's a high chance that this slot defender is going to be blitzing,
which is going to mean one-on-one with this safety.
But it's going to end up being a fire zone,
so you're going to have this blitz coming.
He's going to be here.
And both of these DBs, they obviously had a beat on this route concept.
It's going to be double slants.
They both jump these slants.
He makes a play on the ball, bats it up in the air.
Harrison Smith gets the pick, hit, man.
And I think with this interception,
he became the active leader in the
nfl as far as interceptions go i mean that's very obvious right i mean that's very odd so
you know because there's no other reason he would be standing right behind a nickelback so
uh just a little tip for young dbs out there as a safety you know play it off a little bit and
if you're that if you're the nickelback you know give something else but you're standing right here looking in there run it back a little bit please
still made the play and he still made a play so it's about execution running back all the way
as much as you can so i think it was some even some communication from 39 telling somebody like
hey i'm coming baby where should he be like inside leverage like you can tell me you need me i'm
coming hold on so he could be inside leverage.
It's really not on him because he has a blitz.
He got to get there, right?
So you be there and just look at that receiver.
As soon as that receiver moves, you go.
But as this safety, just put a little bit of sauce on it.
Like, show that you're going to the middle.
Just show something and not stand right behind.
He's scared to death he's not going to get to his spot.
Exactly.
Young player, just want to do it.
And you know what?
Don't let your disguise keep you from doing your job.
He made the play.
That's what matters.
This was also third and two, I believe.
So third and short right here.
So made that play.
Once again, the whole DB group was clued in on what was coming,
made the play, run to the ball.
We always talk about tips and overthrows.
You're up third and two.
So good job by that safety,
but that's just a little something to put in your back pocket going forward.
Mike White may not adjust to this and go somewhere else,
but, you know, a lot of the old heads do.
Harrison Smith, great disguiser, right?
He's like the best in the game, AJ?
Yeah.
I think so.
Yeah.
Yeah. This return's
awesome. I like how he hands it off to Pat P at the end.
He gets tired of them just trying to kill the clock.
It's a lot, a lot of yards.
I got you.
Alright, way to go. Let's go to our sideline now.
That was fun.
Alright, next one.
Yeah, they're awesome.
They are.
On defense, they got guys. On offense, it's sweet.
You're talking about the Colts? No, the Colts are the worst team in football. I'm talking about. They are. They're so awesome. Like, on defense, they got guys. On offense, it's sweet.
You're talking about the Colts?
No, the Colts are the worst team in football.
I'm talking about the Vikings.
Oh, yeah, the Vikings are awesome.
You're 100% right.
Watch what you say about the Colts.
We're on a highlight here, I think.
I don't know if this is a low level.
This is a good play.
And this was still a good play.
What?
Oh!
I was going to say this.
This might have been a two-point game.
Oh, okay.
So this is before the fourth quarter is what you're saying?
Yes, this is before the fourth quarter.
I think this is the third.
I'm not positive, but he actually gets his ball, picks it off,
and sets the offense up on, like, the plus 19-yard line.
Did we score?
Absolutely not.
But watch the five-year-old more, man.
Still very, very highly respected in this league.
I don't know if you guys saw that clip of all the young Dallas Cowboys players
trying to get his jersey after the game.
That was cool.
I feel really shitty for Gilly Locke right now because he's playing great ball
all year, but obviously the team is not with him.
But this is a great job by him.
He'll come home.
Single high coverage.
Just hold on.
I don't want to – we're prime time on Monday Night Football,
Sunday Night Football, and Monday Night Football again or whatever
at this stage of the game.
Fucking Stephon Gilmore signed with us because he thought we were going to be good.
What happened?
What happened?
I just realized I didn't see because the fourth quarter was so bad.
I didn't see.
Does Jeff Saturday have the boys putting the fours up going to the fourth quarter?
All right.
Listen.
I'm not sure.
It's not good.
It's a great point.
Because I saw TCU put the fives up going to overtime.
First time I saw that, that was awesome.
And they got beat.
To Saturday, I mean...
Five is completely defeated in actions.
What's that?
To Zari's point, I mean, they came out hot
and after halftime they came out hot.
So whatever he says in that locker room, it fucking works.
It just wore off there.
It just wore off in the fourth quarter.
Nonetheless...
D-Bud No D-Bud
D-Bud
D-Bud
Oh
You mean the other guy
That picked the Colts
Stump
Exactly
Because he thought
They were going to be good
Yeah
I mean we were supposed
To be good this year
We were supposed to be good
That's why
That's why this guy's on the team
That's why you have
Primetime games late in the season
And a late bye
Yeah
We thought we were going to be good
Yeah
And instead we got Collinsworth just shitting a late bye. We thought we were going to be good.
And instead we got Collinsworth just shitting all over the entire. Everybody thought they were good.
Huh?
Everyone thinks they're good in August.
We know that.
No.
I'm talking actual.
Stop it.
Stop what you just did right there.
We got Gillylock on the team.
I'm just saying, I guess we got to be more,
we got to be realistic with our expectations, don't we?
Well, Shaq Leonard wasn't supposed to be out the entire year, Hawk.
That is true.
Do you think this guy knows football?
Tell me, you think that guy knows football or not?
He thought the team was good.
That's why he joined the team.
That's right.
He picked the Panthers last year, dude.
That was because he had to.
He got traded.
Great rep by here.
Exactly.
Even more so.
That's a good point, though.
Thanks for bringing that up.
Yeah, you think he wanted to do that again?
No.
No. Jesus. Sorry for bringing that up. Yeah, you think he wanted to do that again? No. No.
Jesus.
Sorry, Gilly Law.
They had seven Pro Bowlers last year.
Eight?
Eight?
Seven.
Oh.
Well, they gained another one with Gilmore.
So eight, and they didn't lose any.
And Ryan is a Pro Bowler.
And we had ten fucking Pro Bowlers.
But once again.
Bubba Ventrone, he was a pro bowler once.
He went back to the beginning.
Jeff Saturday is a pro bowler.
So this is Gilmore.
15 pro bowlers.
Three by one.
Strength and conditioning thing.
So Gilmore, backside three by one.
Once they rotate the single high coverage,
this is like football one-on-one for quarterbacks.
Nine times out of ten,
they're going back to that X receiver on this one-on-one matchup.
Now, still a cut split.
You're on a near hash.
He's kind of right on the top of those numbers.
Well, right on the bottom of those numbers.
He's going to try to get up and then run out.
Gilmore does a great job of maintaining his outside leverage
because all of Gilmore's help potentially is in here.
All these bodies are in here.
So he does a great job maintaining
his outside leverage. And then once Dak
throws this ball to a spot, he just
beats this receiver basically to a spot.
So patient. I mean, when you watch
him play football, a lot of times it looks like
practice, drill work. He's patient.
The game is slow to him. Been playing
great ball this year. Beats it to the spot.
And like I said, this was at third
and ten. And he gets
this ball, returns it to...
You set your team up for success right here, man.
But obviously we didn't get it done.
Did Zeke get a flag here? I mean, what the hell
is that?
A flag? No flag.
They called it on Zyre Franklin.
Can we keep an eye on the bench here and see if we got
enough juice? Okay. Let's see.
Because this was a close game at this point.
No, you do not have juice.
Why is anybody telling me to go to the end?
There is no juice on that sideline, dude.
What the fuck, bro?
Not even a hint?
Is this Carly?
Oh, Carly has juice?
Carly's excited.
Look at fucking Carly.
Get her a fucking headset.
You should be calling the plays.
Oh, fuck.
Can't do it where it's zoomed in.
Anyways.
This guy left side, too.
He's jacked up.
That's the only juice.
Furthest to the left.
Wait, run it back real real quick I didn't even look
He's clapping
That's bad
This is hold on
This is hold on
Bro yeah
What are you talking about
This is a two point game
This is a two point game
This was in the first half
Yeah right here
I think it was
10-7
I mean there's
14-10
They don't give a rat's ass
I mean the offense is bummed They got to stand up and go play.
What the fuck is going on in that building?
2-9 does a golf clap.
We got these guys who aren't dressed.
They got their hands up.
Carly is saying ownership is exciting.
Thank you, Carly.
Maybe that's what Carly's down there for.
Oh, team morale.
We got two hands up down here. We got a hand up morale. What was this? You know, we got two hands up down here.
We got a hand up here.
Is that good?
I mean, hey, go score.
Where's Jeff Saturday?
This team stinks.
Can we zoom in on Jeff?
What's going on like right here?
It's just.
They don't give a shit.
They know you're about to get waxed.
They didn't know that.
They were in a game.
It looks like Jeff Brown right there. He's director of player ops. They were in a game. They knew.
He's director of player ops.
This guy's fucking awesome.
He's the one who had the hands
in the Andrew Luck photo.
Not enough juice.
I'm with you. Especially on the road.
When you're on the road,
it's us against them, baby.
AJ, what's this all about?
That's a bit alarming.
We know Jeff gets the boys going. You would think the second he picks this off, us against them, baby. AJ, what's this all about? Prime time. That's a bit alarming, especially, you know,
we know Jeff gets the boys going. You would think the second
he picks this off, the whole sideline erupts,
don't they? Normally.
Like, Carly's reaction there,
you know? It's natural.
That's like a...
I don't want to say, like, when I was playing,
but, like, I'm posted up right on
that fucking bench right there when the defense
is gone. You see that where two humans are?
Yeah.
A pick happens.
Vinatieri's old fucking ass.
I mean, we both, yeah.
Yeah.
Even if you're not watching, you hear it.
You hear the crowd react to it.
The home crowd obviously is like, oh.
So you hear it.
You look up.
You try to see what's going on.
Yeah, but you guys are on a good team.
Yeah, and Jerry World, too.
I mean, that's getting played on a 200-foot screen. So you're definitely reacting. What's going on. Yeah, but you guys were on a good team. Yeah, and Jerry World, too. I mean, that's getting played on a 200-foot screen.
So you're definitely reacting.
What's going on over there?
I don't like that.
They stink.
Not good.
They're cursed.
Wow.
Bring Russ in.
Russ will get that.
That was it.
That was at the end of the second quarter with 2.56 left on the clock.
We just set our offense up to go.
Oh, no.
Is this the next play?
No, this is actually the fourth quarter.
So you know what happened here.
It was in the fourth quarter.
It was Alex Pierce touchdown, right?
No, it's not.
We didn't score in the fourth quarter.
33-0, unanswered.
Oh, geez.
At least we got Jelani Wilson in the game.
You won 33 points.
Baskin-Robbins is where you want to be.
Hell, yeah.
Hey, ho!
Okay.
Jeez Louise. So we got
cover three here. This safety does a good
job. Donovan Wilson, read it back
to the beginning real quick. Does a good job with his shoulders.
Showing too
high split safety. Makes it look like a cover
two look. Showing like he's opening up.
Then he comes back down. He's going to drop down
and be basically insert hook
curl. Oh!
And then him right here. So this receiver, Ashton Dooling, he's scoring this game.
He beat Trayvon Diggs with a double move early.
Plus 1,400.
Yeah, he does a great job here as well
because this is a curl flat defender once again.
He goes in and pivots out away from his leverage.
So there's going to be a ton of space to throw this ball,
to lead him, to run away.
Pretty clean pocket, right?
Michael Parsons here.
So he can throw this ball out here. This is a catch and run
situation. Instead, it's behind
the receiver, Deron Bland, who had two
interceptions in this quarter.
Rookie Bland. He does a good
job making the quarterback pay for a bad ball.
Look at the zip on that pass.
Holy shit!
Did he break his hand catching this?
Look at this whole area.
I mean, you throw this ball out here towards this shield.
I mean, potentially a catch and run.
Alex Pierce is wide open, too.
But, I mean, look how good that ankle tape looks.
Holy shit.
Matt Ryan's good.
Did Matt Ryan stink last year, too?
Yeah.
I don't know.
What picture did the Falcons have in the draft?
Yeah, more interceptions
and less touchdowns than Big Ben
last season.
Oh!
We shipped Carson up
out of here and felt like...
Don't even start
with Carson.
I'm not saying that Carson was the answer.
You guys should sell the farm for Heineke.
Relax. I'm just saying. Great job by Wilson the farm for Heineke. Relax.
I'm just saying.
That might be a good idea. Great job by Wilson.
No pre-snap disguising.
We fucking stink.
What is the deal?
Great finish by Deron Bland.
You can draft a quarterback with your first-round pick.
Don't worry.
Who cares?
We don't stink that bad.
Get Bill Levis.
We'll get a – yeah, that's what we draft.
Guy eats bananas with the peels on.
Yeah, and he's mayo in his coffee.
Yeah.
He's a fucking dog is what you're saying.
And why is Jelani Woods not on the fucking field?
We got a 6'7 guy that can move.
You don't.
What is the problem?
He had 98 yards last week, I think, too.
Yeah.
None on Sunday Night Football.
Best game of his career.
None on Sunday Night Football.
He had that one catch, but there was a holding on the offensive line.
Oh, and then he had that one iso.
He was on a stand on the sideline.
Yep.
Remember? He had that close-up of him. We had a fumble on the tight end screen, too, on the offensive line. Oh, and then they had that one iso. He was going to stand on the sideline. Yep. Remember?
They had that close-up of him.
We had a fumble on the tight end screen, too, in the fourth quarter.
Yeah, it was Mo Alley.
Yeah, so tough sled for Colts.
We fucking suck.
Great job, Bland.
Great job, Wilson.
That's it.
How about the – hey, great work, Terry.
Yeah, let's go.
Hell yeah, D-Bot.
I don't want to get too negative because what just happened was awesome.
No, get as negative as...
You showing that clip, I wouldn't have known that the entire sideline was just fucking dead.
Yeah, I was discouraged.
I didn't even look at that.
It was eye-opening.
There was inklings of it.
Was there?
No, there wasn't.
Where?
Thank you, AJ, for asking a follow-up to turn.
And that was the second quarter, too, by the way.
That's early.
People aren't tired.
We're not out of here.
I mean, we're still.
Guys know, like, okay, yeah, we're in the red zone now.
Let's go back to fucking Lollipop City, and, you know,
hopefully we'll score a touchdown.
But we won't because this guy's throwing the ball eight miles an hour.
Listen, we watched the team run off and run on the field while, honestly,
one of the greatest air guitar back-to-the-future situations was ever
happening in the entire world.
Freaking sweet.
I can't believe that happens at an NFL stadium with NFL games.
There is some elementary things happening at Lucas Oil Stadium.
There was no juice playing air guitar.
Who?
Marty McFly?
We don't know who they were.
They were in costume.
It was somebody in costume as if they were back to the future.
It was a full thing.
It was historic.
It was different than Marvel. It was different than Marvel.
This was different than Marvel.
Throwback jerseys.
So they had to do some throwback cool stuff.
They did a light show with the crowd.
It was awesome.
That was sweet.
It was interactive.
What was going on on the field,
didn't expect it came out of nowhere.
So surprise is definitely a great part of entertainment.
And those people did a great job doing the actual thing itself.
Is the demo four-year-olds?
Four to six, I think, yeah.
Is that what's going on?
Four to six who have seen the movie from 1982.
Well, yes, now it is.
When your team is at this point,
that's when you see like a bunch of school buses in the parking lot
because they're giving away tickets to a bunch of schools
to try to fill the stadium.
All right, AJ, we get it.
Nobody's celebrating picks, okay?
Matt Ryan's missing by 15 yards for interceptions, okay?
We don't have to rub it in.
When you're at this point, yeah, this is the only way you fill up stadiums or whatever.
The positive is...
It's like, yo, I don't know if that needs to be the demo, dude.
Please give us some positive, Connor, please.
Thank you, Darius.
Yeah, on Monday Night Football, Tom Colasio is going to have something for those boys from Indiana.
I'll tell you how much.
We're back whenever we get to.
At least you get to watch Herbert.
Yeah, that's going to be fun.
Herbert will be fun.
That guy loves football.
You'll be able to look and say, hey, that's exactly what the Colts never have, a franchise quarterback.
Oh, come on.
Right there.
And I can almost touch him.
He's right there.
I can feel the greatness coming out of him.
We're going to have a franchise quarterback.
What are you talking about?
Purdy was Mr. Irrelevant.
You don't think that Jim Bursay is going to have his eye on the film at the Combine,
scouting himself to find the next franchise quarterback he's going to pick up in the fourth round whenever we have a pick?
I have heard rumblings of a Shaq Leonard for a Bailey Zappi trade.
Whoa.
What happened with Shaq, too?
Did we know he was not going to play all season?
I mean, the Colts have been...
We don't have to get into just the Colts.
Snake-bitten.
Snake-bitten.
Isn't that what they call it?
Yeah, snake-bitten.
Why?
There's why.
It's the Andrew Luck curse, is what I'm calling it.
Wow.
Might be cursed by God, after what you did to Carson and Frank.
There's that as well.
So the football God's an actual God.
Both teaming up.
We can just hope that they kind of...
We can hope that they double-feed it.
What about Cut and Peyton?
That one seems like more of a curse to me personally.
They put a statue up.
They got luck.
That didn't work out.
No, it didn't.
This is strictly on the shoulders of, well, one shoulder of Andrew.
Bring Joey Chestnut into halftime.
He was at the Cavs game last night, wasn't he?
Yeah, they were doing like a pro-gating contest.
And they said, oh, all of a sudden they started and then the glass broke
like Stone Cold was coming.
And Joey came running out of the car.
That's what I'm talking about.
How come the Colts can't do something like that?
We got fucking Back to the Future dancing for four-year-olds.
The Cavs got Stone Cold Steve Austin glass break.
Joey Chestnut comes and dunks on all the locals while eating Polish pierogies.
It was even bigger, too, because he had just lost a shrimp cocktail eating contest.
So this was a comeback win.
To who?
A whale?
Great question.
Who beat Joey Chestnut?
I don't know.
It was St. Elmo's too
Wow
Who is the
Kaboli
He was in town
Might have been Mark
Boom
That's who it was
You check his pockets?
Kaboli might have created
An invention for somebody else
There's now cargo shorts
That you can cook
Hot pockets in your
In your cargo pocket
And if you do recall
From training camp
We delivered a sandwich To Kaboli from Rudy's because he said, Rudy's, I hear her.
So we delivered him a Rudy's sub.
He didn't have time to eat it because he was so focused on work.
He put that sub in his cargo short pocket.
And then 10 hours later, he woke up when he was laying down and said, oh, there's a sandwich in here.
And he ate it.
Nice little snack.
when he was laying down and said, oh, there's a sandwich in here.
And he ate it.
Nice little snack.
So in doing so, somebody saw that story and said, great idea.
Put a Hot Pocket cooker in a Cargo Short Pocket.
Thank you to the internet.
Thank you to the innovative people out there.
Thank you, smart people.
Thank you, Hot Pockets.
Also, congrats to Cargo Shorts.
Definitely making a comeback.
For sure.
I'm getting a pair.
Can't wear that on a plane.
No. That's never what happens.
It was more like getting a bully running around. Exactly. True. That's never what happens. It was more like giving a goalie a run around.
Exactly.
True.
That's right.
So we should be thanking the Steelers, you're saying?
I think so.
Yeah.
And the linebackers coach.
Funny how it all comes back to that for you, Tone.
Colts fucking suck, bro.
What?
It's all right, dude.
It's the Packers.
Yeah, I mean.
Plenty of season left.
Really?
There isn't.
There isn't enough.
Steelers stink right now, too.
There isn't enough.
Steelers are hot right now.
Shut up, Steve.
The future is fucking bright as shit.
Realistically, every team but like
five teams suck.
Well, no.
We've never had to.
Situations are situational.
Welcome to home.
I do have breaking news.
Dwayne Johnson has reported that he wanted to confirm with financiers
before he shared this excellent Black Adam news.
His film will profit between $52 to $72 million.
Is that good?
Fab.
Hell yeah.
At almost $400 million worldwide, we were building our new franchise step by step.
Parenthesize, first Captain America did 370
million. Suck it, Captain. For the
DC future, things are looking
good for The Rock. Everybody
that doubted, fucking take
a hike. Dewey
Johnson, box office king.
Scroll back up. Scroll back up.
Bigger than Captain America.
Okay.
Okay. Bow to your future America. Okay. Okay.
Bow to your future president.
Thank you, Dwayne.
Something to think about also is movie tickets today cost about 15 bucks.
Movie tickets when Captain America first came out were probably about seven.
So there is a little bit of disparity here on the era and age.
Don't bring that type of logic into this conversation, please.
We're just talking box office.
I love Dewey.
You said he was teetering yesterday.
You literally said this.
I love Dewey.
You can't be taking a fucking victory lap
for making $53 million on this fucking movie, pal.
It's a lot of money.
No, it's not.
That's $15.
I would love to see what his projections were for this.
He's unprecedented.
Billions upon billions.
$52 million.
Fucking Secret Life of Pets did two times that.
Whoa, it's a great movie.
Yeah, bingo.
Who else is in that, Ty?
It's good.
Kevin Hart, the guy everyone says The Rock needs.
Just real quick, though.
No one said that.
$52 million profit.
Oh, yeah.
Capital letters.
Projected.
Fact. Could, yeah. Capital letters. Projected. Fact.
Could be more.
What if this thing gets hot in some time in some country in the next week or two?
This thing could make another $100 million out of nowhere.
Yeah.
Boom.
How you doing?
Wait till it wakes up in Ukraine and they might rally behind this movie.
But I don't see that happening.
No, wait till the COVID lockdowns in China stop and Zhao starts fucking promoting this in China.
Is he in it?
That's a good point. John Cena is not in Black Adam. No, but they're friends. Captain America is, though. in China stop and Jal starts promoting this in China. Is he in it?
John Cena is not in Black Adam.
Captain America is though.
Anybody want to talk about? No, Superman.
Superman makes an appearance.
Actually, Peacemaker could possibly be in one of these
movies because they're the same universe.
And that's going to be in the next one that they're building
step by
step.
Congrats, Dwayne.
We knew it.
Love you, DJ.
Way to go, Dewey.
Why does Dwayne feel like he needs to do that, though?
Because everyone's saying this movie sucked.
It's losing a bunch of money, so obviously.
Well, Ty actually yesterday said,
and I doubt that Dwayne Johnson gets updates from this particular program,
but Ty yesterday said, teetering on B-Lister at this point.
That's what Ty said about fucking Dwayne Johnson.
A lot of people are saying that.
I didn't specifically say it myself.
You reported that it was B-Lister.
Exactly.
And I believe whoever sent in that screenshot,
it was followed by another one from several outlets.
No, no, no.
This movie lost money.
What?
Okay, Dewey can say what he wants.
He can check his financiers before, you know.
We got it, Dewey. Okay? Hey, sometimes youy can say what he wants. He can check his financiers before, you know, we got it, Dewey.
Okay?
Hey, sometimes you just got to take an L.
Sometimes you just got to take an L. This movie made millions and millions.
Do that 50 times, okay?
That's how much money.
Congrats on the first installment.
Yeah, first installment. Congrats, Dwayne.
First one.
Yeah, well, and also, you know, they're projected to make $52 to $72 million
because they're doing what the Colts do.
And Dewey's probably buying up eight to ten theaters in every state
and just sending kids there, sending them in buses.
Hey, we need to get you this holiday season.
That's really nice.
Yeah.
Thank you.
But are you making $52 million in profit if it's coming out of your own pocket?
The movie or him? Doesn't matter.
Movie will make 52. Happy for you.
Hey, congrats, Rock. Keep doing it.
Sounds like a lot of hate, though, from over there.
I need to see this movie. Sorry, I'm a
Marvel guy. Love doing it.
Anyone seen it in there? Hell yeah.
Kidding me? Yeah, Pat watched the first
15 minutes and it fucking sucked. Oh Hell yeah. Kidding me? Yeah, Pat watched the first 15 minutes. It said it fucking sucked.
Oh, yeah.
Number seven or eight.
Maybe seven minutes, I thought.
That's all I needed to hear.
Yeah, basically.
Well, I do that with every movie.
Not everyone.
Oh, wait.
What movie's coming out next week?
Avatar.
Three hours and 45 minutes.
I'm locked in.
Boom.
Cannot wait.
Right there with you.
And didn't we see a-
You will be.
Damn right.
Didn't we see a tweet last night regarding that film?
Oh, yeah.
It said it's the best movie ever created.
Well, well, well.
Well, well, well.
Who said that?
Jimmy Cameron did it again.
A human named David Elrich.
David Elrich.
David Elrich.
He said David Elrich.
This looks really fake.
David Elrich said Avatar, The Way of Water, LOL.
Imagine being dumb enough to bet against Jimmy Cameron.
Or Teen Alien, Sigourney Weaver.
Or Giant Whale, subtitled in Papyrus.
Light Years Better Than the First and easily one of the best theatrical experiences in ages.
Streaming found dead in a ditch.
Go to a movie theater and watch Jim Cameron's brand new Avatar.
Boo!
That's not what the movie looks like, right?
That's the video game?
No, this is the 3D renderings.
And keep in mind, I had to look this up.
Papyrus is what the whales will be speaking in subtitles.
It's the font.
Didn't Sigourney die?
They were.
He's talking about the movie Alien
with Sigourney Weaver.
Are they little avatars?
That one holding the snake looks tiny.
I don't know what this photo's from.
This is not a Jim Cameron photo.
No, this is not from the movie.
This is Foxy or Mitt deciding to put this photo
as the thing. Do not let this photo
judge the words from David Ehrlich.
You mean the Cisco and Eber of our office?
The Foxy and Mitt?
Yeah.
Well, David Ehrlich was trying to take out Cisco and Eber.
Cisco and Eber.
And that is the child is Jake Sully and his wife's offspring.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
In the trailer, I believe a lot of people have broken down.
There's a scene with both of them in water, of course. And she is pregnant. Oh, water birth.
Water birth, yes.
And you can pick up from that.
Hand old school.
The whales can talk to each other. We didn't have that in Avatar 1.
Tell you that much.
Listen, this movie is going to make $6 billion.
20 years? 25 years
to get them to talk to each other?
And 17 submarines.
Excuse me, they've been figuring it out.
I am pro-Avatar.
I don't know if I'm going to go to the theater, but I'm going to watch it.
Dude, this is a documentary of the planet of Pandora.
Yes.
Epic proportions.
So it's taken 20 years.
It's like, yeah, no shit.
Sorry.
It's making a documentary, dude.
What do you want?
You want them just to create action?
No.
A lot of things have had to happen over 20 years.
We get to see it all in three hours and 45 minutes.
We're lucky to do it.
That's right.
God damn right.
We'll watch it next week.
We'll certainly give our take on it.
We won't be as smart or sophisticated as David Ehrlich was.
No.
We are much more smart and sophisticated on Football Today because of everything DB.
Thank you, Terry.
Thank you, D-Boy.
Good job.
Big, big, big shout out to Jordan Poyer for stopping by in the middle of the day.
Kevin O'Connell for stopping by today, coach of the day. Kevin O'Connell for stopping by today.
Coach of the Vikings.
Jet Passon stopped by today.
Kellen Acosta stopped by today.
AJ Hawk stopped by today.
Holy shit.
We're doing it.
This is a program.
There's only one way to end this thing.
Isn't there, AJ?
It has to be a giveaway.
D-Bud's making five putts.
Oh, okay.
I don't think he'll have to make five, though.
No, no.
All Darius will have to do is just go two of five on the putting green.
And if he does that, 15 people will win $500.
How do you be one of those 15 people, Pat?
Great question you just asked yourself.
All you got to do is retweet this video.
In a reply to this video or in a quote tweet of this tweet, go ahead and
say something nice to somebody because it's the holiday
season. We need more nice things said.
And put your cash tag in there from Cash App
so we can pay you efficiently.
15 people could win $500
if Darius Butler goes 2 of
5 right here. He is picking to go
straight down the line. He has missed this
putt numerous times in the past.
AQ on cross court.
Good aggressive
stroke. I like that.
Nice aggressive stroke.
I like that a lot.
Way to go there, D-Butt.
Gotta go 50% going forward.
I tried to tell you. Think about changing.
You should go cross.
Cross court.
Move the ball to where your heel is. You should go cross. Cross court. Cross. No, no, no, no.
Move the ball to where your heel is.
There we go.
And go towards the nearer stage, stage near one.
There it is.
R1 up there.
Try to hit it over that hole into the next one.
Nope, nope.
I don't think you should do that.
But.
Be sweet.
Dude, perfect.
Bang.
Money.
Oh.
Got to go 2-2 here to end this one up.
I do not know
if Darius knows that there is
a touch factor today.
I like that. Going right for it.
Darius Butler is one
of... Let's go!
Let's go!
D-Butt said, I only need two balls.
What are we talking about? This goes in.
15 people win $500.
Darius Barrett,
great outfit today.
Boop, boop, boop, boop.
Sorry, guys.
Guts the wind in here.
Do you want to shoot or
you're done with it?
Oh, he's taking a super cool flannel.
Oh, he doesn't have a six-pack anymore.
Holy shit. Yeah, he only has a four-pack.
This guy was scared to eat French toast today.
All right, Fatty, let's go.
All right, Fatso.
Hey, hey, hey.
Shoot the ball, Tubby.
Darius did a little dieting today for the first time all year.
I think he's worried about the body.
Hey, you look good.
Don't worry about it.
Stop being so critical of yourself.
Nice name, you're Seal Skillet.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
All you got to do is make one.
Shout out Sal Pal.
Shout out Sal Pal. Shout out Sal Pal.
That's right.
Hell yeah.
Sal Pal Antonio hosts the NFL matchups with Darius Butler,
who if he makes one of these shots,
10 people will win $500 who retweet this video in a reply
or in a quote tweet saying something nice to somebody
and put their cash tag in the same message
so we can pay you efficiently on cash app.
Darius has not touched a basketball yet today.
Nope.
This will be his first shot.
This thing goes in.
Ten winners of $500.
Let's see it, D-Blood.
Oh, that's it.
Oh!
It looks so good.
You still got more opportunity.
You look perfect.
You're right on it.
That one felt better than the putts.
There it is.
Watch on the shooting hand.
A couple foosballs there. A couple foosballs there.
A couple foosballs.
How do you feel about the net over there? You throw a ball well?
You want to go over the hoop? You want to go over the...
Yeah, we don't...
Oh, that net.
Oh, juiced up.
We don't need the projection.
Hey, ho, ho, ho!
Don't just give up here. Calm down.
Don't just say, fuck it, and throw these balls. You still got give up. Yeah, calm down. Don't just say fuck it and throw these balls.
You still got an opportunity.
Yeah, let's go.
You still got it.
How many people?
Ten people.
Ten.
$500.
$5,000 leaving the company in this holiday season to go to ten people.
Less.
Bang.
Oh.
Hey, don't give it up.
Put it in.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh, God.
What's the tip?
Damn it.
That one's going to be tough, but this one goes in.
We'll get 20.
You want to calibrate it?
Calibrate it.
Calibrating.
Hey, listen.
We have no chance.
What?
There's no chance.
No, D-Bot, we need you.
Hold on.
Who would have thought that Russ would have made the worst ball ball?
D-Bot, step up in the pocket a little bit for me, please.
Now look at that.
There you go.
Where are you going to?
You going straight ahead?
The net? Sure, which one do you want to hit?
I will break the projector.
It's either the backboard or the projector.
We don't need the projector until 2024.
Here we go.
Shit.
Remember, you can't got it. You got to throw that sumbitch hard.
Yeah, you just got to look and throw.
Oh!
That felt good. That was. Oh! That felt good.
That was really good.
Why'd you change the calibration?
That felt good.
That was the best anyone's ever thrown that football.
Damn, that felt good.
Man, I guess we should.
Thank you, Russ.
Hey, thank you, Russ.
Thank you, D-Bud.
Sorry.
D-Bud, we'll be back tomorrow.
We'll get a chance to do some giveaways then.
Yes, sir.
Can't thank you all enough for fucking joining us this afternoon.
You're the best people on earth. Four hours, seven minutes of talking. Can't thank you enough for for fucking joining us this afternoon. You're the best people on earth. Four hours,
seven minutes of talking. Can't thank you
enough for being a part of this whole ride. AJ,
great work today, honestly.
Have you talked to Aaron?
Have you figured out an excuse
on why he didn't tell us that there was no Aaron Rodgers
Tuesday yesterday yet?
No, I know he's on a trip. I do
not know where he is though.
Oh, okay.
Ayahuasca, what type of trip?
Is he tripping?
Balls?
I don't know about that.
I don't think he's in Green Bay is all I'm saying.
All right.
All right.
Okay.
We'll see you all tomorrow.
Goodbye.
Say something nice to somebody, will you?
Cheers.