The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 815 - Monday Night Football Recap, Aaron Rodgers Tuesday Season 3 Week 15, Patrick Peterson, In The Trenches With AQ Shipley LIVE From The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: December 20, 2022

On today’s show, Pat, AQ Shipley, AJ Hawk, and the boys react to last night’s Monday Night Football game between the Rams and Packers, the Packers getting a massive win and still being alive in the playoff race, and everything else happening around the league as we wrap up week 15 of the NFL season. Joining the progrum to chat about their historic victory over the Colts on Saturday, what the mindset of this Vikings team is going forward, his relationship with Kyler, and much more is 8x Pro Bowler, 2x All-Pro, member of the 2010’s All-Decade team, and current CB for the Vikings, Patrick Peterson (1:24:22-1:47:41). Next, 4x and back-to-back MVP, Super Bowl Champion/MVP, QB for the Green Bay Packers, Aaron Rodgers joins the show to chat about the Packers massive win last night, his thoughts on the offense, the playoff picture in the NFC, how he’s feeling physically, and much more (1:47:43-2:40:58). Later, 12 year NFL veteran on the Offensive Line, AQ Shipley breaks down the best offensive line play of week 15 as we go In The Trenches (2:41:00-3:05:38). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people. It is Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, December 20th. Holy shit, this sports show starts right now. Football! Just wrapped up its 15th weekend of the NFL season with the Green Bay Packers winning at home in historic Lambeau in 16-degree weather against the reigning, defending, undisputed Super Bowl champion Los Angeles Rams team who, to be quite honest, we don't know a lot of the players that are playing a lot of positions for them. There's a lot of opt-outs and injuries that have taken place.

Matthew Stafford has confirmed via his wife's podcast that he is not returning or not retiring. So he will be returning. So maybe that whole crew will get it back together and try to have a much better year next year as opposed to the year that they have had this year, which is tying the most amount of losses for a Super Bowl champion already. And we still got three games left for them to add to that title and be the worst Super Bowl champion team in the history of the NFL.

That is what the Rams are this year. And we didn't think they were going to be able to get a win against the Green Bay Packers. And I was watching that Monday night kickoff show in which RG3 had a fantastic hat on. That was a big ass. Could you imagine Tony Gonzalez trying to get

through that? Oh my God, he would have been it. No offense, I get cold too. Not really, but sometimes I do get cold. And when I am cold, too. Not really, but there's sometimes I do get cold, and when I am cold, it is miserable. So I understand those that get cold, but it seemed like the kickoff show was good last night. Alex Smith had a fantastic appearance.

Booger was doing his thing. Steve, at one point in RG3, obviously, ran and did the Lambeau leap for the, I don't know if it was the first time in his life, I'm not 100% sure. I'm not sure. He said he did play there before. I think he did well. He does the land. But Steve Young running behind him, not going to get talked about

because what we're about to address. Steve Young, he's got to be near 60. Oh, yeah. Got to be near 60. For sure, yeah. He's fucking striding. Like, all I see is my knees just giving out whenever I see him running. He's in incredible shape.

And a man who was able to conquer his nemesis, a man who was able to bounce back after getting embarrassed by an immovable object, a man that once tried a Lambeau leap and ran to the wall, scooted. Okay. This is no knee drive, no arm swing, no big deal. I'm a reporter. Okay. Let's do this thing. And then he wanted to do the Lambeau leap. It looks easy. Everybody does it. And his jump was actually the same height of his steps he was taking while he was running. And he fully boom right into the side of the wall at Lambeau and then a couple locals dragged his lifeless body up onto the thing and then boom he did a Lambeau leap and it took over the internet so they're back Monday night football in Green Bay RG3 does the Lambeau leap I see Steve Young run and then all of a sudden as the clock is ticking down

on the hard out for that you see schefter start to oh my god he steps back into the batter's box starts running in there i'm like okay here we go we're getting a shifty face plant off a fucking lambo wall once again be ready the internet's about to explode he jumped a little bit higher he did he's working on it he jumped a little bit higher look boom got a little bit of a pop seemed to brace himself before running face first into the fucking wall like the first time and i will say superhuman strength by those up above they said get over here to little chefty and i want to say a lot of people are bearing shifter for this lambo lead that means you didn't see his last lambo lead that's right i do appreciate him getting back in there.

And I had horrible memories. I assume he was shirtless earlier this year on this show. Yep. He took over Lambeau Leap. Schefter's really having quite a year. I think he's getting paid more than he's ever been paid in his entire life. Nice. I think we can give a little, hey, congrats, Schefter.

There you go, Schefter. Congrats, Adam. Congrats, Adam. You didn't want your face in a wall last night. It looked good. It looked good. RG3 looked good. and the game looked good. If you're a Green Bay Packers fan, they get a win.

Seems like the offense moving a little bit. A.J. Dillon, I don't think he would have been stopped, and we should have known that whenever we were projecting the game yesterday. We should have known that the massive fucking guy is going to be tough to tackle in 16-degree weather with a little bit of drizzle. And I was confused as well as the Internet. I didn't know it could be like 16 degrees and have drizzle. I didn't know that was a thing.

Yeah, usually it's just a wintry mix. There's no, you know, the rain. Just because science. Yeah, exactly. I don't know how a 16 degree drizzle happens. A lot of people on the internet don't either. But I think you're just saying like there was some sort of precipitation falling. And it was on the weather map or whatever, or the weather app or whatever.

Nonetheless, A.J. Dillon, he was going to hammer him. Aaron Jones gets his thing. Right. 53 minutes from right now. But what is, hey, did he notice? Because remember, there was an article that came out where Aaron was doing signals from like two years ago. And some of the wide receivers didn't know him. Did Christian Watson know that signal? And also, Aaron, what are your thoughts on people saying you're doing signals that nobody knows what they are? That's a great conversation. Can't wait for that to happen.

Christian Watson could have scored a touchdown here. Could have had Darius Butler's same game parlay hit last night. Instead, ball ends up on the ground. They end up kneeling it out at the end of the game as well. Could have scored again, hit the over. It was a fascinating night. The Packers are still alive. Congrats to them.

Let's go over to the Toxics table at Boston Corner. Obviously looking fantastic in that Bruins Uni. Winter Classic coming up. You guys are going to get embarrassed in Fenway Park. Sorry about it. Sorry about that. Pittsburgh Packers. Sorry about it.

Sorry about it. Sorry about it. We know how the hockey gods work. And if, you know, there's maybe someone got slighted, you know, whether it's a Pittsburgh fan or a Bruins fan, typically that comes back to bite whoever. We don't know if you got slighted yet. It might have been a logistics thing as well.

I think the hat kind of says I was, but that's okay. No, I think it was just a logistics thing. No, I don't think so. We've got time. Owner Classic is until next weekend. Good morning, by the way. Hey, good morning to you as well. Great to see you. We well. Great to see you.

We will. Good to see you. We will. Connor, we got sent the Winter Classic sweaters. Great sweaters. From the NHL. Me, Nick, and Diggs got these. And I believe it was Diggs did not get one.

No, Diggs didn't get one. Oh, me, Nick, and Phil got one. Oh, but I'm okay with it. I'm not crying about it. All the hockey fans. Yeah, exactly. Diggs isn't really a hockey fan, so fair enough. Connor and Phil got one. Oh, but I'm okay with it. I'm not crying about it. All the hockey fans. Yeah, exactly. Diggs isn't really a hockey fan, so fair enough. Connor did not get one,

so Connor is not exactly thrilled with the person that seemed to have maybe set up the delivery of that. That is going to get settled. It's probably a logistics thing. That will all get taken care of. Let's not worry about that right now. Don't even want a jersey. I wear these type of hats almost every day.

Okay, all right. The other hat was almost more disrespectful. Now, at this point, if I get something, it's just a pity. And that's even more disrespectful. No, no, it's a logistics thing. I think your box is on the way. Evergreen's been out of that canal for a while. But, I mean, hey, look, package play.

What are we talking about? Boston's farther away. It's Wintergreen, I think. Who was it, Evergreen? Whatever. Whatever it is, it's not in that fucking canal anymore. So I don't believe in logistics issues anymore. But again, it doesn't matter.

Evergreen was blocking the Suez Canal. Panama? Panama? No, it was a canal. Panama Canal. Suez Canal? It may have been Suez. I think it was Suez.

It was over there. It's a very important canal. It is. Where a lot of things get through. Shipping hub. Somehow they ran out of water. Parked that son of a bitch sideways evergreen said you know what this is the biggest dump of all time and you got smallest toilet pipes of all time this thing's clogged forever sorry water is just

going to start coming out of the toilet actually into the house into the bathroom out into the hallway into the living room it's going to become a whole problem. And that actually did take place. World logistics fell into free fall as soon as that thing turned sideways. So I don't think that's the case. I think it is something different. But logistics in other places are also fucked up, not just Evergreen. Let's assume your box is

on its way. Let's get to you, by the way. We don't have time. What are we talking about? That's why I said, who cares? What are we talking about? Why do we just have to dive into a full – what is your deal? You said I look great, and then I realized, oh, yeah, I'm wearing the Bruins thing because I like hockey. I'm a fan of hockey, but who cares? I don't.

I'm over it already. Well, I'm happy we're over it because we did just spend four minutes talking about it, and that's not what we should be talking about. What we should be talking about is the goddamn Green Bay Packers are still in this thing. Yeah. Now they've got a big game against the Dolphins, and I think they have the Lions on their schedule. And the Vikings.

And the Vikings. They have to win out. Vikings are going to be tough, obviously. Miami is going to be tough. Who knows how they're going to bounce back after that Bills loss. And the Lions, obviously, are the brand new Lions. But if the Packers win out and some things happen, they're in the playoffs still.

So all of the things that we've chatted about all season, about this Green Bay Packers team, and this being a much different Aaron Rodgers Tuesday year, as opposed to the years past, because things were going great the last two years. We won MVP back-to-back years, COVID MVP, Aaron Rodgers. Year after COVID, MVP, Aaron Rodgers. Now here we are, 2022. Season's not going anywhere near as smooth as it has in the past.

Question marks are everywhere. What's the future look like? Are we benching Aaron Rodgers? Jordan Lovin is the future. Is Aaron getting traded? Is he retiring? Is there a new era? Blow it up.

Matt, the floor's going to go fuck. Still everything in front of you right now, basically. Some things have to happen out of your control, which the NFL this season, who knows what's going to take place anywhere, anytime, any game. But you've got to feel good about it after last night's win. Now, have to beat the Rams. And Aaron said that in a post-game interview. He said he said gotta win the games you're supposed to in december

that's our first back-to-back win since week four are you guys back are you feeling good is there a little optimism are you still like okay we're supposed to win that one and we're staring down the barrel of two very good teams that we have to beat back to back again and win four straight which we haven't done this year is that where where you're at? Yeah. More so that, because like, I mean, just watching that, like that, that Rams team is terrible and granted it's, you know, they're, they're incredibly injured. They've kind of given up on the season. So you, I mean, how that game went last night is exactly how that game should have went.

And if it would have went differently, then it's just like, okay, we'll fuck it. I don't know. I don't even care about next week, but yeah, I mean, next week's the true test. You know, you got the dolphins on on christmas and then there's two home games after that with the vikings and the lions we talked about it a little bit like i mean we'll see what happens with the dolphins game i think that is winnable i mean they have to they have to win out but if they do manage to win that game the weather getting really cold and having aj dylan and then their offense is actually the healthiest

it's been since week one so like things did feel a little bit different last night the the question marks and like the punt return and kick return are much different now with Keyshawn Nixon like he seems to be a guy they have that figured out so that's kind of one more thing where it's like hey don't need to worry about this is the type of shit that plagues the Packers year after year doesn't seem like that's going to be the case. I still worry about the defense because, again, like the Rams, they don't really have anybody. I mean, the defense played.

Hey, Baker, more plays than we expected, than I expected. Yeah. Seemed like it wasn't just like a basic elementary. It was 11 days over there. Now, everybody's talking about the 42 hours thing, but that's 11 days over there, middle of the season, late in the season, new guys everywhere. Baker didn't play bad at it.

I didn't think Baker played that terrible. I think Baker's doing a lot of good for himself and probably will continue to do so because the expectations are so low for this Rams team. But I didn't think Baker played that terrible. I thought he made 111 yards pass and is next to nothing. Yeah, not great. I mean, he's next to nothing. Their offensive line is so beat up.

Their starting center was questionable going into the game. I think he got hurt on the first drive. Like, Packers had five sacks. I think that's the most they've had all season in a game. Like, he just, they had no opportunity to really win that game. And the Packers, you know, I mean, I think they showed a stat early in the third quarter. Like, they were like 0 for 21 on their last possessions immediately following the half.

They scored two touchdowns on their first two possessions, like haven't done that all year, looked better in the red zone. So there are signs that point to like, hey, maybe this team is kind of starting to turn things around at the perfect time. But again, you know, if they end up not getting in the playoffs, you're going to look at all these games they should have won and point to all these different things like, well, you just can't give away games like that.

But again, they have the opportunity to go out and win, so now that's what they need to do. And they need a little bit more help, but they are healthy. They have A.J. Dillon. When the weather's getting cold, no one wants to fucking see him in the hole. He's just a goddamn lumbering load. So we'll see. I mean, yeah, I mean, things are looking up more so now

than they have all season for sure. Guy's a freight train. We know somebody attacking him when he was 12 years old. That's right. I was 19. Fifth year of high school, seventh grade. Yep. Blew him up.

Blew him up. I'm damn right. Blew up AJ Dunn. Yeah, and guess what? It was cold. Do you think the Rams could have used maybe a little bit of your consulting and advising this potential week for the game? I think there's a chance that I would have helped explain it maybe a little better,

how to send a hit that'll send a message. Special teams, Packers opening kickoff, they blew a guy up, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like, it was a big-time shot. Yep. And I was like, damn. Now, shot yep and i was like damn it is now once again everybody's saying buffalo is freezing cold because of the snow globe and

everything like that it was like 26 allegedly right and that is cold compared to 80 degrees or 70 degrees or 60 degrees 26 is certainly freezing okay i understand science and everything like that but 26 is nothing really yeah whenever you start going down in temperature. 16, definitely cold. But this weekend, Tone, what's the stats for this weekend? This weekend there's like six games that are all starting negative degree wind chill. We need to think about that as we're gambling. Tone digs one half of the hammer. Done.

Cowboys, yeah, it's Field Yates quote here. Bills at Bears, minus 11. Seattle at KC, minus 6. New Orleans at Bears, minus 11. Seattle at KC, minus 6. New Orleans at Cleveland, minus 9. Houston at Tennessee, 5. Atlanta at Baltimore, 7. And Christmas Eve, Raiders, Steelers. Akershire is minus 4.

Goddamn. Let's think about that as we're putting together some bets this weekend. Well, we saw A.J. Dillon last night, right? Yep. Big boys run hard in the cold, we hope. We assume. Defense doesn't necessarily want to get hit by a big running back ever let alone when it's fucking a negative 11 day you're gonna take a little bit more chances to make those tackles probably a little bit more arm in there

every once in a while probably try to go lower on certain guys aj dylan was able to kind of do his thing until he got a concussion i think yeah he Yeah, he left the game with, I don't know if he actually got a concussion, but he left the game in the third quarter, went to the tent with a suspected concussion. I don't know if he. What's that mean? Yeah, I'm not sure, but he did not return, and then it was kind of one of those things where he kind of softened him up,

and Aaron Jones really kind of just took over from the back end, and he played really well in the third and fourth quarter. Especially in games like Houston, Tennessee. You think those boys who have won three games, two games this year, want to tackle Derrick Henry when it's five degrees. You think Atlanta comes from that dome, wants to go against Patrick Ricard in four degrees when they've got nothing really to play for?

Atlanta's in it. Yeah, they are. Atlanta's in it. They are, and also Artie Smith, former, you know, his dad is a Marine. Ooh! Raw! So he's going to hopefully have those boys humming around. I see Marcus Mariota.

Oh, that's right. What was he doing? Was he in a wheelchair? Was he rehabbing his knee? Yeah. I walked past him. He's taller. Really?

He's taller than you expect. 6'4"? Unless it was a doppelganger, and I did not take out my phone and take a photo. But I'm walking through Cosmo to, I think, go to a production meeting. He's walking this way, I don't know, maybe heading out of the... And I seen him, had eyes on him, about 20 feet or so. But when you're walking opposite directions, it's kind of quick. And I just stared at him, and I was like, that's fucking Marcus Marriott.

Taller than you. I didn't expect him to be... Big son of a bitch. He's like 6'2", I think, 6'3", maybe. I think he's kind of quick. And I just stared at him and I was like, that's fucking Marcus Marriott taller than you. Like I didn't expect him to be big. He's like six, two, I think six, three, maybe. I think he's taller than that.

Yeah. He was tall. I looked up to it. I was looking like I was listed at six, four. Yeah. There. Yeah. Okay.

So yeah. Wait for the Raiders. Yeah. I was going to say that would make sense. He, um, yeah, maybe has still has a place out there.

Yeah. Clean shaven. I great shave. I was one of the first. I was like, that's an incredible shave he has there. And he was walking. And I don't remember if there was a noticeable limp or not. I think if there was a noticeable limp, I would have said.

But I seen him walking by, and I'm like, and I sent a text to the group, just seen Mark Smerriotta. Hey, Mark. Remind me. Somebody remind me that I just seen Mark Smerriotta because something happened. He looked good. He looked good. He was walking next to somebody.

Nonetheless, Desmond Ritter, fourth quarter, looked much better than he did in the first quarter, I think. So maybe they will grow. First quarter, he looked bad. It was not a good start for Desmond Ritter in his first ever start there for the Atlanta Falcons. But you're right. That is something we should think about.

Derrick Henry, especially in this cold weather, with the way he runs and the way Vrabel runs him. Vrabel's like, we're feeding, we're feeding, we're feeding, we're feeding. Let's keep that in mind. Joining us now is a man who knows all about what we're talking about right here because we're talking about the run game, which has been more prevalent this year than seemingly in years past. It's been perfect for us because we have a guy that is not only a 12-year NFL vet,

a Super Bowl champion, but he hasn't just bent over in front of Michael Vick and Carson Palmer and Andrew Luck and Tom Brady and all that. He's a player coach. Wow. Jackie Moon. Yeah. Not owner yet, but maybe one day if he keeps using his big old fucking brain. But he's a player coach, so we get to see both of them.

Coach offensive line, played offensive line, knows it from the ins and outs. He's fixed printers, shined shoes, won Super Bowl. Ladies and gentlemen, it's the host of the Bobble Exchange and In the Trenches, A.Q. Shipley. Hey, A.Q. How we doing? A.Q., those cold games. Obviously, you played in a lot of them.

You're from Western Pennsylvania. You were drafted, I believe, to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Then you went to the Philadelphia Eagles. Then you were at the Baltimore Ravens. Then you were at the Indianapolis Colts. Then you were back to the Baltimore Ravens. Then you were back to the Indianapolis Colts. And then you went to Arizona.

Yeah. A lot of cold weather games in that whole thing. Yeah. Run game. You guys know that? You know like, hey, it's probably going to be a little bit easier for us today if we punch them in the mouth early. And is that a plan you think all coaches should have

whenever it's incredibly cold like it's supposed to be this weekend? Absolutely. I think it's one of those games that every time you have cold weather, you have to be able to lean on your group up front because it's harder to throw the ball. You mentioned last night it's harder to kick the ball, right? Like everything's harder. Dude, hit a 55-yarder last night.

Wild. Matt Gay, that's one of the biggest fucking balls I've ever seen. Honestly, no shit, so impressive. Then he missed an extra point. But then he made a big-time tackle. But that was one of the most impressive balls. Mr. Gay, congrats on that. It's not easy to do at all.

Crack a ball out of the ball. Yeah, that was only the third time. 50-plus yarder, I think, has been made at Lambeau when it's been 10 degrees or 15 degrees or lower. Third time in history. And if we're going to give love to the kickers, we have to give love to the ultimate Iron Man. Iron Man.

Mason Crosby has 250-plus? Yeah, yeah. He passed Brett Favre last night. Whatever it is. Consecutive games played. No, I think he tied Brett Favre. Maybe, yeah. He tied Brett Favre last night. Consecutive games played in Packers history.

The amount of tender love and care, TLC, this man has had to do to his hip, his knees, his quads, all his muscles for him to be able to like i think hunter games is a lot of fucking games okay just to play in general 200 games obviously absurd to tie the man who's known to be like the toughest guy playing football in consecutive games i think he's a press a lot less wear and tear than a quarterback any other position completely understand but this man is a constant professional okay he's a lot less wear and tear than a quarterback. Any other position, completely understand.

But this man is a constant professional. He's taking care of his body. Has obviously tried to be the best he could possibly be for a long time. Has focused on it his whole being. And a Christmas party, I guess, this year. But his whole being on kicking it. Nothing but props and respect for Mason Crosby. The amount of rehab this guy's probably had and prehab this guy's probably had to go through

on a day-to-day basis just to kick a ball I think is worthy of a conversation piece, and I'm happy the Green Bay Packers have brought that up. We should have chatted about that yesterday going into the game. We did know about that. We didn't. Anyways, let's get back to the cold weather.

I apologize for kind of running off there. No, please. Because you're right. In that cold weather, when it's that cold, it is hard to kick. It is hard to throw. Everything's going to take a little bit longer to develop, so that means up front it has to be kind of locked down longer almost.

And the offensive linemen are the only group on the field that never wear sleeves. Like, they embrace the cold. Come on. I learned last night you guys put a tiger balm on. Yeah, changes it a little bit. Is she hot on your arm? It's actually a smart move.

I wish I would have done that. Who said that? That's brilliant. That was ESPN Booger. Yeah, changes it a little bit. Is he hot on your arm? It's actually a smart move. I wish I would have done that. Who said that? That's brilliant. That was ESPN booger. Yeah, booger. Genius booger. That's brilliant. So he takes a shot of whiskey.

He does. Good for him. So I try to warm up my insides. I go ahead and take a shot of a little bit of whiskey. Right. Give me a little bit of check. Alex Smith said he was wearing the wetsuit. Had to cut off the sleeves, obviously, to throw.

The scuba suit? Yeah, of course. That's what Tom Brady wears, I think. And the scuba suit is... It just... It's like a seal or an otter flub, right? Exactly, yeah. It just keeps everything in.

There was no flub, but... No flub. Dan Marino. Send it. Fucking send it. One of the best advertisements of all time. By far. Dan Marino has been hitting home runs for so fucking long.

Oh, my God. This clip from back whenever he was a Dolphin and he had to do a read, and then they just kept the camera on. They're like, all right, we're going to watch it back to see if we got to redo it, see if there was any flubs. There's no flub. All right, we're going to watch back. Just fucking send it.

No fucking flub. Just fucking send it. He's the best. Don't know how we got on that. Dolphins got a big game this weekend, though. Huge. Packers got a big game this weekend. Yeah. Huge. Packers got a big game this weekend. Yeah.

Huge. How do we feel about that looking like a couple days in advance, A.Q. Shipley? You think the Packers have what it is to slow down the Miami Dolphins, keep that offense off the field? You know, because obviously the Dolphins at the beginning of the season were the conversation. Always so. Tyreek Hill gets signed to a new contract, big money in a new city.

He's on every podcast chit-chatting about how great Tua is. Tua's talking a little bit of shit finally for the first time. There's a coach empowering Tua for the first time, telling him he's good. A team that was being accused of losing games on purpose was investing in the team and trying to win. They had this young wizard

from Yale named McDaniel who's cooler than everybody. And we saw photos of him from back in the day. He had sick earrings and incredible swag and moxie about him forever. Lose a couple games. Have you lost faith in the Dolphins? And do you think the Packers have what it is to beat the Dolphins again? And are the Packers going to be alive whenever we talk the day after Christmas? A.Q. Shipley.

I still think the Dolphins are a top three offense in the AFC. I really do. I love their group. I love what they did against the Bills in cold weather, proved obviously that that's not going to affect them moving forward. They have so much talent, and when they stick with the run game, it's a really good offense. When they go away from it and they run all the RPOs in the pass

and they get, what, 35 minutes of possession versus 80 minutes over two games, they get back to doing what they do against the Bills, they're right there in the thick of it. Why does that happen? Can I answer your question? Why does that happen? I don't know. I think you get so enamored with what Tua can do accuracy-wise, right?

Like he's so accurate. He really is. And all those little RPOs over the middle, so many coaches get enamored with the fact that you can always pick up 15, 20 with the weapons they have on the outside. Allegedly, right? And so then with the run game, if it's not working early, it's quick to go away from because do you want to keep pounding your head

two yards, three yards, three yards, four yards, and then four yards eventually turns into 12 if you stick with it, as you see with Tennessee and Derrick Henry and the 49ers and all these people that stick with it, the Falcons. When you go away from it. Most of it rippled off. Oh, yeah.

It did. And that's what I'm saying. So when they get it going early, it's a lot easier to stick with it. So it's just a human. That's all it is. It's just a human calling to play. Just like, I don't want to say panicking, but being like, well, why do we do that when we have this?

Why do we do that when we have this? Well, that's because, and I'm a very much a checkers player. I've said that. My grandma and I played when I was a kid. My grandma and I played checkers and we played poker. Okay. So that was whenever I was a little kid, I was on it. Checkers is just my favorite thing because you're in the moment right now. What's the decision you're making right now? Boom. I'm just trying to get past you, king king me then i'm trying to fucking come back and people say uh he's not playing checkers he's playing chess and i respect that because people are forward thinking i've always been a checkers player what's right in front of me how do we get over it how do we get

to the end and then how do we get back without really thinking ahead and thinking forward play callers need to think ahead. Like setting that run game up, even though it's not picking up as much as the thing is, it's like third, fourth quarter, or even when we get down the red zone, when it gets a little tighter, they have to respect that a little bit more. Because once the defense doesn't have to respect the fact

that you can maybe run the rock, then when they say the space gets compact, it's even more so. Because they're not biting on a play action. They're not doing anything. They're just sitting back in coverage. It makes everything more difficult. So I wonder if that's ever a conversation that play callers have

either amongst their staff or amongst the players or even with themselves like, hey, this is a four-quarter game. You almost have to be a chess player to be a play caller. I would not be a good play caller. I would do exactly what happens. We run the ball. We pick up negative one yards. Fuck it, we're throwing it over again.

All right, fuck it. I'm just trying to get it. But then when we get down in the red zone where everything gets stopped, everything gets tough basically, and that's like what NFL teams are doing this year. Lou Anarumo broke it down to us. Darius Butler breaks it down every single week. They go, no, cover two shell. And it's like, yeah, you can get your yards.

Go ahead. But then once you come into our red zone area, we're going to be sitting here waiting on you. And if you don't get the run game, I don't think they respect it. And I think it makes it even harder down there in the long run, especially against these great defenses that you're going to run into in the playoffs. So I think you have to be a chess player to be a play caller. And I wonder why that isn't just kind of a more understood thing.

It's a great question. And you don't know how many Saturday night night night before game meetings i've been in and listened to offensive line coaches say this exact fucking quote hey boys we got to make this thing go early because you know what happens if we don't make it go early we're getting away from it you know what i mean and like that's literally that's a reality so like you on your first 15 you got four runs going you better pick up five six break, break one for 12, whatever it is. Or else you get two, three, minus one. They're like, fuck this.

And then you just got to sit like this the whole game. All right, here we go. These pass rushers. This guy gets to punch me in the fucking face again. Second ball. All right, let's line it up again. A ball. And they're just teeing off.

Let's just go backwards and try and block the most athletic fucking people running forward. That sounds kind of – And then they can run exotics. They can run exotics. You're 100% right. Not just Tampa this year, but this happened in Tampa before they won a Super Bowl. In AQ, you were down there, so correct me if I'm wrong, but BA was doing BA stuff. We're taking seven-step drops.

We're throwing, we're throwing, we're throwing, we're throwing, we're throwing, we're throwing, throwing, throwing, throwing. And, you know, anybody would say that new tom brady like tom brady he's a run game wrong tom brady's throw he's throwing uh check downs to his running back and he needs a play action and has to have a run game like that's no knock on tom brady that's not calling him a game manager but if you give him that weapon he's able to piece everything together and pick apart after that bye week happens i I think the Atlanta Falcons were the next game, and that was the game I was potentially going to play in, right? Because kicker, punter got COVID positive.

So I get somebody reaches out to me and says, hey, do you have the antibodies? If you have the antibodies, you don't have to do the eight-day hotel kind of quarantine before it gets sign you. This weekend is when the game is. It wouldn't even happen or whatever. Kicker, punter, test, pause, code. You have the antibodies. I think we can just sign you. You'll be our kicker and our punter this week. I'm like,

oh, not a lot of people have ever got to do that in the NFL. My leg feels fresh. I can give one day. This thing, I'm not going to be able to walk the next fucking day. Probably my leg's going to fall off because I haven't done anything. Let me test. Test for the antibodies. We are too good with COVID protocols. We are too good.

If we were worse with COVID protocols, I'd have a Super Bowl ring. Wouldn't have had to play either because suck up and pinion cleared Saturday or whatever. So I would just have been on the sideline, fresh jumpsuit, doing my thing. We were in the Super Bowl.

I get a Super Bowl record. At the parade. If we were worse at COVID protocols. We were so good at fucking COVID protocols. That's what I'm thinking about. Think of the boat that I would have. You didn't even care. You came out with the O-line, man.

It was a good one. It was a good boat. I'm sure we would have hopped over. I think you guys would have wanted the yacht that I would have got. Cruise ship. Think about how absurd. Exactly. Think about how absurd I am. have hopped over. The yacht that I would have got. Cruise ship. Exactly. Think about how absurd I am. The thing that we would have tried to get could all happen if we were worse

with our COVID protocols. That never gets talked about. Nor will it. AQ, you should give Pat. I'm surprised we haven't gotten an award for that. They make a paperweight ring. I'll send you one. Right here. Could have happened.

I would have contributed the same amount that I contributed. you one. Right here. Yeah. Boom. Could have happened. Yeah. I would have contributed the same amount that I contributed. Nothing. Because they both would have came back. But if I wasn't so good with. People say it's the thought that counts. Yeah. I thought about getting antibodies.

And I said, no, I'm going to be six feet away from everybody. I'm not going to make eye contact with people for two days. Remember, there was a time. There was a time where we couldn't make eye contact. Wear glasses. If you're going to look at somebody, we don't know how this COVID thing shit. Don't look. Wear goggles. You're out in Arizona living your life.

Nonetheless, you actually took the antibody test, if I remember right. Yes. That's what I'm saying. You bled your own blood. That's right. I couldn't get blood out. Remember, I couldn't bleed. I couldn't even bleed. It's because nobody makes you bleed your own blood. That's right. Yeah, I couldn't get blood out. Remember, I couldn't bleed. That's what it was. Blood, sweat, and tears. I couldn't even bleed. It's because nobody makes you bleed your own blood. Nobody.

It was weird. I got to stab myself in the fucking finger. And I know there's people that have to do that every single day. And I got a lot of respect for the diabetes community. And I know that's not an easy thing. That's a difficult thing. Could you imagine having to stab yourself every single day or live with something stabbing you? It's a shame. I'm sorry you have to go through that we have a couple

friends to do it but it is a lot harder to do whenever you have to i was just they give me like this hole puncher almost oh yeah put your finger in here and just and there's a needle that's just gonna drop in here and start playing like all right i guess man i'm gonna go oh, golly, that hurt a little bit. No blood. Didn't work. Got to push harder. Oh, okay. Boom. And I start trying to drip it in the thing. No blood.

I literally had to, like, just stab my finger, like, five times to get enough blood to get in there. And then we waited. What was it, like, 15 minutes? Yep. And we're just waiting to see if a line will pop up for the antibodies. Come on, come on, come on, come on. Come on. Come on. Bucks are good. Come on, come on, come on, come on. Come on.

Come on. Bucks are good. Got one Super Bowl. It's Tom Brady. I'm going to be teaming with Tom Brady. I don't have the antibodies. No antibodies. Son of a bitch.

We should have stood four feet away from each other. Yeah, not six. Anyways, after that, in that particular game, though, after the bye week, it is said to Tom Brady, and he has not told us this. Actually, good question to ask you. Tom Brady, that was that bye week, it is said to Tom Brady, and he has not told us this. Actually, good question to ask you. Tom Brady, that was that bye week. Him and B.A. just kind of sat down and said, hey, this is what we like, this is what we don't like.

We heard about this with Aaron and Matt LaFleur after the first season. In week 11 bye week or week 10 bye week, I forget when you guys had later in the season, they sat down and said, this is what we like, this is what we don't like, and they brought the run game back basically. Then playoff Lenny started, Lombardi Lenny started, and now this whole thing. It seems like they're back to that whole, like, back to pre-bye week almost is what it feels like down there.

You don't have to talk about it. You have a lot of friends down there. Did that happen? And how come this is always a conversation? How come it's always, like, got to have a run game? Like, we always have to tell people, if you have a good run game your your offense will be better how come this always has to happen you think it's such a great question because you do see teams that don't right like there was a game correct me if i'm wrong here maybe chargers chiefs maybe this year this year

yeah playoff chiefs had like 13 yards about the 2020 though no i'm getting there i'm getting there so like chiefs had like 13 yards rushing so and you answer about the 2020 though? No, I'm getting there. Chiefs had like 13 yards rushing. And they were still able to win, right? So they're able to do that. Andy Reid has proven you do not need a great run game to win games. So everybody thinks, okay, cool, we're just going to hit chunks, chunks, chunks, chunks, chunks.

Doesn't work like that. Getting back to 2020, that's kind of what we were doing early in the year. It was just like, hey, we got Tom Brady. Let's fucking use this guy. Let's throw it. And it was 40, 45 year. It was just like, hey, we got Tom Brady. Let's fucking use this guy, right? Like, let's throw it. And it was 40, 45 plus. And it's like, it got to a point where it was like, hey, do you want to do this? And it was like, I mean, I'd be okay doing it 20, 25 times, right? And so then it was just kind of like a good conversation.

Hey, how do we get the best thing moving forward? Hey, let's get the run game going a little bit. Hey, let's have answers. Let's have answers for everything pre-snap right and so they started mixing some of the stuff that maybe he did add lenny get him rolling because early in the season he wasn't getting and they had a nice conversation got and got him rolling i think ba's talked about that numerous times like lenny wasn't getting a ton of touches early hey let's get him rolling we get him rolling okay perfect what did bsa it was something like along the lines i could think rojo was getting a ton of the carries early and it was like rojo was a guy yeah and lenny came over and he was the guy too right so it was like well he's

not getting a ton of carries not a ton of touches and it was like hey man like either buy in or we'll let you go like one of those things and lenny bought in boom okay cool and the rest was history with that but then in terms of the passing game it was tom came from a place where he could diagnose everything pre-snap right like that's that's the world he lives in like hey listen pre-snaps we got an answer for everything and so that was his whole thing like hey listen let's do a lot more shifts let's do a lot more motions let's see if they're running with us do we have are they man coverage in zone coverage now i got an answer okay cool i know this let's double count it. Let's get the right play, and that's kind of where it went

from there, and he had the answers to the test. Do you think they're going to be able to do anything this year from watching them? They don't look anything like what we thought. Yeah, they're bad. It's tough to watch at times, right? They looked great in the first half. Since he put them over a leg

and actually spanked them, spanked their bottoms in the second half, just like this. They won by what, 12, 15, 14? Yeah, I think they scored like 34 unanswered or something like that. Just in two quarters, demoralized. 17 to nothing with a minute and a half left in the first half. Let's not get too crazy about halftime scores and everything like that. But, yeah, certainly.

Yeah, it could have been worse. Because, like, 33 is not safe. It flipped. Yeah, yeah, halftime scores. But that's Tom Brady in the box. Exactly. So you feel real good coming out in the second half. You feel real good.

I think they got the ball to start the second half, too, I think. Maybe I'm wrong. Well, in that other game with the 33 points being scored, that one, the team that was up 33 didn't get the ball in the second half. Forced the three and out. I'm wrong. Well, in that other game with the 33 points. Yeah, yeah, that one. The team that was up 33 didn't get the ball in the second half. Forced the three and out. I watched it. Yep. Got the ball right back.

Yeah. Yeah. Success. Yeah. Hey, what they did at halftime, doesn't matter. Nope. Three and out. Get us our ball back.

Yeah. That thing could have been 40. Yeah. Could have been 40. Go for two. Why not, Jeff? Could have been 41-0 at some point in the second half. Yeah, Tino doesn't have Tom

Brady, though. Bingo. That's the difference. So let's get back to it. Tampa did get the ball to start the second half, and they... Went three and out? Well, they went three, and then they tried to do a fake punt. Oh, and they would have picked it up. Which fake punt? They did a fake punt this week? Well, Jenna Lane covered it. There it is. I did see...

What is that about, AQ? That is seven... I think it had seven and a half million views on a Twitter video whenever I looked at it last night, maybe, or this morning. I forget when it was. It is doing well. Giovanni Bernard was the PP, the personal protector, for the punt that was not

successful for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He seemingly was the only person on the field that didn't know the ball was being snapped to him. The long snapper was literally facing him with his ass. Everybody else did a wedge blocking technique. After the game, he got dressed. Seemingly took

a shower. It looked like he was showered. He looked clean. He looked very fresh after a football game. Got dressed. Was on his way out of the locker room. And at that moment, a lot of reporters who were talking, I think they were at Todd Bowles' press conference. Instead of coming in the locker room, they went to his press conference. Even though the locker room, I think, is open at that time.

So they could have came into the locker room. I think they were at the press conference. I don't know the rules. AQ, you're going to have to correct me on that. AQ, do you know? No, I think you're right. I think they'll go listen to the head coach first or whatever and then roll into the locker room. Some. I don't think

everybody listens. There's some people that are in the locker room from the beginning of opening. There's some people that are, I think, if I'm remembering correctly. This is the first year they're back in the locker room. Yes, since COVID because COVID shut it down for two years and a lot of these guys in the NFL got very comfortable, I would assume. Oh yeah. They're used to no media

coming in the locker room because it is a weird thing, especially with all the emotions that are in there, the timing that's in, I would assume. Oh, yeah. We're used to no media coming to the locker room because it is a weird thing, especially with all the emotions that are in there, the timing that's in there. Half naked. Yeah, not just half naked. There's some dudes fully naked. Narratives, potentially, like stories being built at the same time.

Like, it's an interesting thing. Always has been. Media, very important, though. So I don't want to, just because we point out that something's interesting from a player's perspective doesn't mean we think it should be abolished or eliminated we're just saying if you step back and zoom out it's a little it is a weird thing it is a very weird thing which is also interesting that you bring up about on her video this is being shot in the middle of the locker room showing the whole lock like it there's a reason why they do the videos like at lockers so

they don't show oh i know you got in yeah you know oh i know yeah there's a reason why they do the videos at lockers so they don't show. Oh, I know. You know a lot about that. Oh, I know. There's a reason you don't do that. So that's another interesting thing about this video is the fact that they're shooting this showing the rest of the locker room out there. Yeah, I mean, you can't be putting dongs in the background.

Getting boxed twig and giggle berries on. I did not. No, no, no. I certainly did not. I thought you painted him in a very flattering manner. A lot of thigh. I've been going to some of these art museums. A lot of statues. Yeah, exactly.

A lot of people were calling him a nerd, and I was like, Jesus, look at that Greek god back there. He looked great. He is a Greek god, but he was. I don't know what he is now. I don't know where he's at body-wise. He's not as big, but he's still in shape. When you're going off half-pipes, you've got to be a little lighter. I don't know. Heavier, more momentum, right? i don't know i don't know what the the science is guy but he um he was a fucking avatar there for a bit no he was he was quite the physique

and you see him there's a couple times where he would show like i wouldn't see him for a couple months or whatever and then i'd see him and I'm like, oh, shit. This dude just, did he work four times a day? Like what happened? And then he'd get on that little tiny bike. He shredded up. He shredded. Yeah, it was.

There was a couple times he'd show up. It was like, damn, he looks good. And when I took a photo of Adam Vinatieri, who obviously had a game winner, had a big game, he had dress on top, towel on the bottom, all the outfits. We just won a big game. He had dress on top, towel on the bottom, all the outfits. We just won a big game, big comeback. And there's a statue in the background of just an absolutely chiseled nerd

and a lot of thigh, right outside ass cheek. A lot of body. No dong. No dong. No butthole. It's great timing on your part. No butthole, no dong. That's all me. No butt really either. No. No dong. No dong. No butthole. It's great timing on your part. No butthole. No dong. That's on me.

No butt really either. Could have been much worse. That's Jeff Brown there covering his ass. Big shout out to Jeff Brown. Still working for the team. Shout out to the guy. Very awesome powers. And I do apologize to Luck for this. Obviously I'm looking at Vinatieri here. And this is a zoomed in version of the photo.

By the way, this is not the original photo. This is probably a cropped-in zoomed-in, because you don't see a lot of the towel, which was the whole purpose of the original photo. So this is what I should have done. I learned from my mistakes. I got fined like $30,000 for this. It ruined the relationship with the quarterback, I assume. How come he's got nothing in his locker?

Is he already retired at this point? He has two. There's one over here, too. Okay. He had two lockers? Yeah, it was Peyton's setup, too. Corbett. That was where his locker was.

Vinny's got a sweet setup. Also, after a game, you're not really bringing anything in, especially on a home game. You don't bring shit in. Vinny was right here. I was right next to him. Ben Overton. That's nice brick.

Ben. Yeah, that's a nice. That's a wonderful locker room. You remember when they had single-ply TP in there? Are you shitting me? In the home locker room? No wonder they're cursed. They changed it. I felt like I was the only human that was like, this isn't right.

We should not have single-ply TP. People are having pregame shits. Always enjoyed the candles in the bathrooms, though. You always light the candles. It's a nice, the Lucas Oil Stadium is pretty nice. You get a nice smell in the bathrooms. The locker rooms are nice at Lucas Oil. And, like, just the arena.

Like, when we go to the games, like, even just the lower bowl seats. Concourse is super nice. Yeah, it's way too comfortable. Good to take a nap. Way too lower bowl seats. Concourse is super nice. It's way too comfortable. Good to take a nap. Way too comfortable. Way too comfortable. Way too nice. There's the full photo.

Okay? There is the full photo. Look at those flip flops. That's what I'm saying. That's what I was trying to. But I learned a lesson that day. Okay? We zoom in to everything in the back.

He's like Bigfoot back there. You know, caught in the back. And once again, no dongs, nothing else. No ass. My mouth started sweating when I found out about this. Because obviously,

I sent it out. This is gone. Put it in my pocket. Then we got to go to the family section there. Full conversation, big win. Walk all the way out of the stadium up to the car.

Get in the car, drive home. What are we doing tonight? We're drinking 50 beers. We're having a good time. Let's have a blast. And then my dad gets a phone call from my aunt. She said I was trending on CNN next to Vladimir Putin riding a bear or something like that.

Oh, no. And I'm like, what's he trending for? Florida. I put a photo of Luck naked. Side of the road. OK, I'm driving. Side of the road, mouth full of sweat, body full of panic. I look at it. And I'll tell you what yeah and i deleted it but that thing was damaged and done so i had to call luck you know i

wanted to call luck and let him know and i assumed he had already known he has a flip phone it was not on so i called him like 100 i was definitely first person, as soon as he turned his phone on, like immediately ringing from my, hey, Pat, hey. Real happy. I'm like, holy, Andrew, congrats on a big win today. You know, I did like a full one of those. You're so good at football. Super.

I put a picture of Adam Minotauri out on the internet. You know, it was a mullet outfit. Business on top, party on the bottom. We just won. It was, you know, the whole thing, putting Minotauri over. What I didn't notice is in the background, you're naked back there. You know what I mean? And he said, what's that?

And, like, he's so nice. You know, he's, like, the nicest guy of all time. Oh, yeah. And I told him, you know, there's no penis. There's no balls, no ass cheeks. Jeff Brown's hands actually just like Austin Powers, like, covering your butt cheek. No balls, no ass cheeks. Jeff Brown's hands actually, just like Austin Powers, like covering your butt cheek. Not even a hint of shaft.

But I told him, like, a lot of side body, a lot of thigh, a lot of you is out there. You look great. You know what I mean? Yeah, he looks unbelievable. You're yoked in it. There's a lot of you out there, but a lot of people have seen that, Andrew, and I am obviously very sorry.

And I think it was at that moment we probably, he decided he never wanted to be around me again. And, yeah, I got fined $30,000. But nonetheless, back to Jenna Lane. Can't be doing this, Jenna. I showed the world you can't be doing this. For me, it cost me a lot of money. There was a couple of dongs out since then in the back of locker room photos and videos

because it is an active locker room. You're in an active locker room while you're filming. Jenna Lane, Greg Allman. Allman. Greg Allman are the most vocal in this video that you're about to watch. Giovanni Bernard, we believe, had already showered, gotten dressed, and was on his way out of the building to go see his family. Now, if this is handled in a proper fashion, you be the judge

and just have your ears open for how G geo's being talked to here by people who help the sport media matter but just the just the tone yeah the overall tone just the tone of talking to this professional athlete okay who's played a lot of football long time long time very good very well known as a good guy. Good guy. Good football player. Consummate professional. This is their interaction in the locker room via cell phone from Jenna Lane. Well, you were injured all year. What have you done for us to talk to you about all year?

What have you done for us? I talked to you Tuesday. Just don't say you're not talking. Because I didn't talk to you all year. You were also injured most of the season, too. Can I go to my family that I have outside? You can. Just don't say we didn't talk to you all year.

We just wanted to ask for your perspective on what happened there. You're involved in one of the biggest plays of the game. Okay. Thank you, Drew. Appreciate your time. We won't hold you. We won't hold you. We would have talked to you in the season, but also you were injured.

Just tell us what occurred on the punt. Miscommunication, that's all it was on my part. I take complete fault for that. That sounds like a porn video there. Yeah, a little bit. My fault, that's it. Is it something the team hasn't practiced? It's all me.

All me. It's something I did wrong, and that's all me. So you were aware? It was all on me. Yep, number 25 out there, that was me. I was the one that did it but were you aware it was just me yeah i i messed up i understand seething inside yeah i messed up didn't know if it was a communication yeah i messed up thank you guys

so i'm happy they got the answer i do believe in professional sports you do have to answer for your mistakes so i appreciate the fact that they did have him answer some questions but the tone i think is what everybody is like hey that's a human yeah that's a human as well as a professional athlete aq your thoughts i think you know jenna i think you know greg allman and i assume they're good people and it's not normally like this but just like the tone of entitlement in like what why would we talk to you what have you like that whole you've done all year you've been hurt you haven't done shit basically like okay bro like you know i'm surprised geo didn't kind of did with his face but i don't think he was trying to run i

think he he thought he provided the allotted amount of time to sit there and answer questions he was heading to his family that tone though aq your thoughts on it and everything tough tone it was a tough tone that was the first thing i said when i came in here it's like listen like your job as journalists like i get it like we have to answer hard questions as professional athletes i'm 100 all for that but to sit there and repeatedly fucking go at him about well you've been injured all year like a little belittle almost a guy who's played over a decade in the nfl at a very high level and i mean I mean, I don't even think Greg Allman probably thought that the ricochet shots were going to be coming his way because, like, I don't think he thought this tweet was going to be put out there.

And then Jenna puts it out there, and now he's probably sitting there like, fuck, I sound like a – Well, you have been fucking injured. Well, you have been injured. You're a prick. Well, you know, we would have talked to you, but you've been injured. Yeah. Like, it's like –

It's interesting. And people are going to say – people are going to say they're just going to do their job. And I think that's how they framed it. Pewter Report, whenever Giovanni Bernard tried to run out of the locker room before answering questions or something like that, it's like, did he? He looks like, unless he's like, what's his face in a phone booth, Superman, whoever that is.

Clark Kent. Unless he's able just to walk in that locker room and be like, doof. And then he's just in full clothes with a backpack. Because football equipment takes a little bit of time. Would assume he showered. Would assume he had to shower. Probably had some conversations with some people who didn't want to ask him questions but said, like, hey, man, shit happens.

You know, like his teammates, his coaches probably coming up to him. So I don't know where the miscommunication lies. It's just like, hey, relax. You know, this is when the reporters are asked somebody a question and they've already had the story written and the answer isn't good enough for their story. So they ask another question and another question. They're trying to get an answer, however they can get it. And it's like your job is to report on what answer was given. And I know I'm a member of the sports media now. So I guess that we into this whole world and it's not every media person there's a lot of incredible media

people out there but when moments like this happen it's hard to get sympathy from anybody because i think in 2022 as opposed to maybe in the past where the media was always right now it's like yeah actually why can't you just say hey hey geo before you get out of here can we just get a quote on the uh the punt that obviously didn't go well? As opposed to, why would we talk to you all year? You've been injured. You haven't done anything. You're part of the biggest play.

Yeah, well, why would we? You suck at football. Why would? Kind of big. It was big. Was it the biggest? 17 zip at the time. Yeah, I mean, I get it.

No, but it is 17. If millennium was real, that was kind of the turn of it. Well, momentum is not a real thing in football. There was a lot of people tweeting that after our conversation last week with D-Butt, Coach Lou Anarumo, and the whole momentum conversation where the stats can't keep up with momentum. Lou Anarumo, actual defense coordinator in the actual world that we live in, in the actual NFL, said, yeah, whenever you feel you have momentum, you've got to roll with it.

Then it happened. What do you know? It was just four days later. But, yeah, you can't document it, so I guess there are some people that need to see cold, hard facts about momentum. But, yeah, it was certainly a big play. I think it was a big play. I think he should have answered.

I think he should have had to answer a question about that because there's a lot of us wondering what the fuck happened. Longstamper was probably hoping that he would answer a question about that because there's a lot of us wondering what the fuck happened long snapper was probably hoping that he would answer a question about that special teams coordinator probably hoping he would answer a question about that but i just think we can go about it a different way all parties involved well yeah because it seemed like when they didn't get the answer that they wanted and you start saying stuff like that with tone changes it's almost like they're trying to elicit a response of like they want him to explode it's like all right well if he's not gonna talk about this and give us the answer like let's poke him and prod him and maybe he'll fucking snap on someone in here and then guess what like that

you know we are gonna crush him exactly this unprofessional right backup running back who has been injured all year and has done nothing for this Tampa Bay Buccaneers team, who is a shell of themselves from years past, also was the only person on the field that didn't know a fake punt was happening. And he's the only person that has to know. That's the story of Giovanni Bernard in 2022 with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Like, you could see that easily, and that would all be true. Yes.

All that would technically be true. It wouldn't be if he did blow up and explode and all that but it's like I just don't know why it has to be that way you know and a lot of people on the internet are acting like yeah that's how it has to be it's like I don't think I don't think it has to be though I personally don't think that has to be the case yeah no chance and you know talking about momentum it's not as if the next play you know the Bengals score a touchdown like they only ended up with a field goal in that possession and yeah it was because of the fake pump but then even thinking about you know bernard's mindset probably coming into this season he's not the third string

running back they don't have rashad white right because i haven't drafted him yet and then you're also thinking like okay i haven't had you know a solid shot at the super bowl really in my career down in tampa with tom what they have going on. Like the expectation of the season is probably like, hey, I'm going to be a great contributor, third down back, probably something I've done for most of my career, and we're going to be a great team. And obviously right now the expectations in Tampa aren't what they, you know, are where they should be.

Jenna Lane had a back-and-forth with Todd Bowles from training camp too, right? Yeah, I think early in the season. I don't think it was training. I think it was beginning of the season. But, yeah, that was her. She's, you know, journalist, you know, is how she probably views it. Like, hey, this is – I'm getting the quote. I have to do the story.

This is how I got to do. And I think there's schools that literally teach people to be that way. So I appreciate all the hard work to become a journalist and get access to get in there. It's not easy to get licensed and badged and all that stuff to be in an NFL locker room afterwards. But like, also, let's remember everybody's human. Let's remember

everybody's human and let's make the world better. It's also interesting that they went straight from Bowles to Bernard because, yeah, he did have that play but I think Tom threw like two interceptions and had two fumbles too. He has a press conference, I think. He goes straight.

So there's press conferences. Some guys get to go into the podium. Yeah. Some people don't. Tom also has been, you know, just as fed up, or at least from my experience, more fed up in those press conferences than he has ever been. Like last week was the whole entire game plan conversation.

I'm not going to address that. Yeah, exactly. No comment or something. Next question. Never mind Tom Brady's four turnovers against a fairly tough defense. Okay, what does that have to do with everything? Anything. What next?

You want me to provide him with a coloring book too? What does that even mean? What? I don't understand that. What does that even mean? I don't know. Man. I'll tell you what, she was putting out a lot of tweets last night.

Doubling down. Like doubling down. Not just doubling down, but I think her internet existence for a while is going to be a lot of mentions of her apologizing. You know what I mean? Look at that 421 replies right there. Are you on her profile right now? Zoom out.

Go to, there's a couple other ones here. Where is she? Is this tweets and replies? No, yeah, go to her whole account. Yep. She put out, like, some stats. That's a great story. Yeah, right here.

Look at 358 responses right there. Brady was also blitzed just three times in the first half. Went on two dropbacks in a second. He had his pressure rate went from 12.5% in the first to 31.8% in the second. But it wasn't necessarily them to get to him faster. Spent longer in the pocket in the second half. Click on that tweet.

Yep, that one. Now go to the replies there. First one. You need to be fired. This is embarrassing. Go ahead. This is every response. Here, Jenna, Indeed.com. Did you berate Brady in the locker room? This is going to be fired. This is embarrassing. Go ahead. This is every response. Here, Jenna, Indeed.com.

Did you berate Brady in the locker room? This is going to be heard. That was about Tom Brady something else. 400 some replies. 390 of them are all of the GO. This is going to happen, I think, going forward. And I'm happy to see that. Not happy for Jenna to have to experience that.

Nobody enjoys that being their internet. And I assume she can address this and handle this if she'd like to i don't it doesn't seem like she will but back in the day the player would have been the fucking prick right there oh yeah everybody would have buried the player the player every single thing that he said would be like oh there's a little cry baby that doesn't want to talk to the media you know what i mean like that's what would have been back in the day now it's seemingly a bit different good luck to all parties uh let's talk about a bank robber who's a super fan oh yeah for the can city cheese come on no no no let's take a break let's we need aj okay

be a friend tell a friend one of the most absurd super fandom stories in the history of super fandom is currently happening right in front of our eyes. Maybe number one. The Kansas City Chiefs super fan community is littered with characters. We all heard of X Factor and Red Extreme getting into a brawl. One of them ending up in a hospital and doing an interview from the parking lot after leaving the hospital and admitting that he doesn't do coke, he does meth, and he's not scared to do whatever, and he has a fucking cheese head that he's painted, and actually Nick dressed up as the son of a bitch for Halloween. I ain't ever done meth.

Maybe coke, but... Don't forget he keistered a gerbil in a car accident to save his life. Yep. We don't know if he keistered it, but he did talk about saving his pet gerbil's life in a car accident there's also turns out a chiefs fan that is allegedly on the terrorist watch list that's right a chief super fan so they have coke guy yep fight guy project of coke guy terrorist guy bank robber yeah and those are just four we know about the chief super fan community is a movie yeah the chief super fan community is in the spotlight hell yeah and the chief super fan community has something that nobody else got and that's a motherfucking bank robber

who's been a career criminal who was using the funds to fund his super fandom. Unbelievable. $200,000 bond on this guy for an armed robbery at a bank in Texas at 1016 a.m. Right before the Houston Texans game. Kick off at noon. Be a friend, tell a friend. It's unbelievable. Yeah. And joining us now, live from an attic, Ohio, is a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup champion, a video game pundit, an NBA pundit, and COVID survivor, A.J. Hall.

A.J., what's up, buddy? How you doing, Paul? I'm doing great. How's Ty doing after the big win last night? Well, we just heard, how are you? He said he's saying phenomenal. How are you, pal? Things are good, right? Packers are in this thing. Got to win three more. Have to have some other stuff happen, which we should know what that is if we're going to talk about it every single hour the way we're talking about it. We just keep saying, need some other things to happen. We have no idea what those

things are. We kind of have a guess, I guess. Philadelphia Eagles, Jalen Hurts not playing. That's affecting the top of the NFC bracket. What's affecting the bottom? We do not know yet. But, AJ, how do you feel? Aaron looked good. Dobbs is back.

Cobbs making some big-time catches. AJ Dillon, who they call Sauce because he loves applesauce so much, running people over. Aaron Jones is explosive. Watson's doing his thing. Don't know what this is. Got to figure that out. But, I mean, that seems like the team's back. You feel good about where the Packers are, AJ?

Yeah, I do feel good. I mean, I don't know how, you know, what kind of opposition they had last night in the Rams. I know the Baker have, what, 80-some yards passing. I think... 111. The Packers defense... Okay, the Packers defense sacked them, what, five times, I believe? Yeah. They got after them. I liked their D last night.

Quay Walker? Dog. Man, fly. Yeah, him shooting the gap, making a play. Cam Akers is a great running back. Had some yards. We actually kind of were chatting about that off air, about how Cam Akers might pick up some yards here because it's cold and because the Packers run game has been fantastic. This dude's really come into his own, AJ.

Obviously, rookie out of Georgia. Your thoughts on him and his development through the season here? I think it's been great. I believe he has over 100 tackles already this year. What a dynamic athlete. You watch the dude move. He's so sudden. He's only going to get better and better, I think.

Who did he replace? Pretty much Ty Summers. Who's that? I want to say he went to BYU, seventh rounder. Just a guy who kind of what the Packers have done. Like, it was Blake Martinez before that, a guy who's a good tackler, but athletically, like, the Packers haven't had a guy like Quay Walker. And I don't know, AJ, when was the last – I mean, maybe you?

You were the last guy. Nick Barnett? No, I mean, I'm not athletic or can move like Quay Walker, but – 4'4". I was going to say, your combine numbers are whatever. I'm just saying, like, the total package of athletic ability, physicality. If you were 220, what do you think? No.

What do you mean? Same. Wouldn't have changed anything. Weren't you like 240 running a 4-4? Yeah, I was above 240 coming out. Oh, wow. If you drop 10 pounds, you shave some off your 40. Yeah, you do, though.

That actually happens. 225 and under, I can dunk. 225 and over, can't get up there. Body can't, just can't get up there. So it's an actual weight thing. Like under, I can jump higher. Over, I can't. And that makes sense if you think about science.

Heavier objects, harder to move probably. You know what I mean, AJ? Yeah, but also sometimes heavier objects, if you pack on more muscle, you have more power through the ground. Boom, you're jumping higher. Oh, 4'6", 40. Jesus. His pro day, though, he ran like 4'4".

Yeah, so way different. We're not going to let the combine screw him. A 3'9", 6'20", yard shuttle, that's probably got to be top 10 all the time. I mean, that's ridiculous. Yeah. That's side to side. That's what you do. That's what AJ Hawk is. That's right. And be top 10 all the time. I mean, that's ridiculous. Yeah. That's side to side. That's what you do. That's what AJ Hawk is.

That's right. And we've got to remember that. Thank you, face. Whenever we're just attacking him. What's that? He's mind-blown by that. I mean, 396 is ridiculous. Yeah, pretty good lateral movement.

Oh, I'm the latest athlete. 20 pounds lighter. Could you have fucking – 240. This dude's 250. Running a 396. Right now, 250, that's pass – that's D-end. Yeah.

That's D – AJ, we need to respect your athleticism.96. Right now, 2.50. That's pass. That's D-end. Yeah. That's D-end. AJ, we need to respect your athleticism. Come on. Freaking nature. Anyways. There's no – you've got to be taller for that. That's for sure. Enough about this.

I don't think – Do you? Robert Mathis. Yeah. Robert Mathis is a Hall of Famer. Dwight? Dwight Freeney is tall. He's a little taller.

I'm saying those guys are really, really good. I could never – yeah, edge rushing was not my deal. Humble. Okay, I respect and appreciate – Robert Mathis, edge rusher was not my deal. Humble. Okay, I respect and appreciate. Robert Mathis, obviously. Dwight Friedman. That's his own art form.

James Harrison. Being an outside rusher is like an art form that you have to work on every day of your life. I completely agree. And I'm not slighting any of them. But I think if you took your Ohio fuck brain and working mentality and transferred it into pass rush moves, seems like with a, what was it, 3-9-6? Yeah, 20 yards. I probably would have been able to figure it out if i did with your lateral movement i don't know we'll see but keep being humble it's cool this guy sucks as an athlete yeah this guy this guy's an embarrassment it's disgusting that we even let him talk into a microphone

unbelievable that's why they packers never trusted him on third downs you know this guy can't fucking cover anybody you kidding me he has no football oh yeah downs, you know? This guy can't fucking cover anybody. Are you kidding me? He has no football. Oh, yeah, healthy scratch, Michael Vick. That's right. Can't keep up. I forgot about that. Anyways, let's not talk about it. Green Bay Packers, big win last night.

Congratulations. Can't wait to talk to Aaron. We've got Patrick Peterson here in about 13 minutes. So we have to dive into something that is taking place in the AFC West that is truly remarkable. We were introduced to the Chiefs superfans a little over a year ago when we learned about Red Extreme, popular Kansas City Chiefs superfan, beating the shit out of X Factor, popular Kansas City Chiefs superfan. How did we learn about it, you ask yourself? Great question.

We actually learned about it from an actual local news story in which X Factor still had the scrubs on from being in jail, was walking in the middle of a parking lot, seemingly anywhere, still limping and banged up. Probably for a lawsuit that was on the other side that he was planning on selling with the insurance firm and whatever in court and he talked about how he taught red extreme everything there is to know about being a super fan and this is how he repays them they were quoting other people saying that x factor had gotten a little bit too out in front of his skis this guy got too big for

his britches he became the number one super fan for the chiefs and he started telling everybody about it his ego was so big he couldn couldn't fit into fucking Arrowhead anymore. That's what people who know both Red Xtreme, right here, and X Factor over there were saying. So when Red Xtreme knocked X Factor down a couple sections in the stadium, there was a lot of people cheering for that to kind of humble old X Factor. And the next time we had seen X Factor after getting knocked out by Red Extreme, he was obviously out in the parking lot, walking down the street in front of a gas station

with this particular actual news set. Actual. Can't say this enough. Not internet. No, not a joke. Not me, Marie. You turn on a local news in the Kansas City area. On the other side of the in the Kansas City area.

On the other side of the break, Kansas City Chiefs superfan jumped at stadium. We have the first communication with him since his exit from the hospital or something like that. Boom, three minutes of them breaking it all down. At the end, actual news person saying, we'll keep you covered as more develops. It's like, Jesus Christ, this is awesome. And we start diving into super fans around other NFL teams and other, you know, hockey has them, basketball has them. Everybody has these super fans.

They dress up at the games. They're all in. They are really what they, you know, they want you to think the backbone of the fan group. I don't know if most fans appreciate this group of fans that's kind of taken a little bit too far, but the super fans certainly love them some super fans. We thought there's no super fan story that can get more absurd than what happened with X Factor and Red Xtreme. There's

no way this will be topped. In the moment while we're talking about it, we say this has got to be the most absurd super fan story of all time. Little did we know that the same exact team super fan would not only produce helmet man who's on a terrorist watch list of course actual terrorist watch list helmet man right here still on the terrorist watch somehow has ties to 9-11 okay this is just what some there are some ties tonight he didn't orchestrate i think he was just i What? There are some ties to 9-11. He didn't orchestrate it. I think he was just... I think he was doing something. Yeah, I don't know. Something happened.

In the article we read, they didn't say he planned 9-11, participated in 9-11, but he was in an area associated with something that happened with 9-11 that he should have been put some on a terrorist watch. I don't think they said this guy is a threat or a liability, but they're certainly like, got to watch him.

Yeah, with the World Trade Center. Got to watch this guy with what's going on. That's Helmet Man of the Chiefs superfans. So that's got to be the worst and most insane story of all superfandom, right? Nothing can top that. Yep, definitely. Wrong though. Same team's super fan family as a fucking bank robber yeah what chiefsaholic also known as xavier michael babadar

is a career criminal who was disguising himself as a fucking wolf who loved the Kansas City Chiefs more than Red Extreme, more than X Factor, was actually caught red-handed with a gun robbing a bank in Texas on Friday. Now, we do not know if this is a photo of him. This is from a 2016 bank robbery i believe and we could assume that there's a lot of wolf masks out there so a lot of people are maybe robbing banks with the wolf mask but the internet yesterday was saying this motherfucker chiefsaholic was wearing the same thing that he wears to games he was walking right into banks with his costume on with a gun saying i need to wear a hat i need to yeah well he does it in the games too he has a

fucking kansas city chief's hat at the games over top of the Wolf's head. He says, I need fucking all the money you got. Do you know how much your stadium charges for beers? Do you know how much your stadium charges for nachos? And I'm a Wolf. You know I got a how every once in a while. And I'm not sitting up in the fucking nosebleeds. No, no.

I'm fucking Chiefsaholic. I need to be on the field. Give me all your money. That's what he was saying in Texas. Friday, one day before the game, Chiefs fight against the Texans down there. He gets locked up. The Chiefs fans were worried about Chiefsaholic. The Chiefs fans called the police.

They didn't know his actual name. He had just gone by Chiefsaholic for so long. Didn't know his actual name. They wanted to report that he had gone missing and they were worried about him. And then one of them said, worry no longer. We have found Chiefsaholic. That's right. He is sitting in a fucking jail cell right now with a $200,000 bond.

That's a big bond. Jesus. Arrested at 1018 a.m. on a Friday. Middle of daylight. Who knows what he was wearing. Hopefully the Chiefsaholic costume with a gun.18 a.m. on a Friday, middle of daylight. Who knows what he was wearing? Hopefully the Chiefs of Hall of Costume with a gun. Give me your money. Cool, we'll give you the money.

You're going to jail. Never going to see a Chiefs game again. And now everything's unfolding. You go back through some of his old tweets. The writing was on the wall. Somebody talked shit to Chiefs of Hall of Costume. He said, don't follow them, homie. Nobody is holding you at gunpoint,

which is obviously something that people have said for a long time. None of my head would I do it. A little bit different when it comes from a fucking bank robber who is an armed bank robber. Here's another tweet that he had put out there before to Woleek. Just imagine me walking out of the bank last night. So that could be like, oh, this guy bet on a team. A lot of people would say this. But it's much different when it's coming from a fucking armed bank robber just wait there's more uh where does this wolf get the money to bet a

grand per game hope your taxes are in order he said i'll make a good living plus i hustle in private house money i'm playing with to be honest chief saholic obviously people say house money house time it sounds a little different though when it's coming from an armed bank robber. I think he wanted to tell the truth. I think he was crying out for help. I think there's different times where he's tried to say to people, like, you know, this isn't my money. It's house money. Nobody's pointing a gun at him.

I've been there. When you point a gun at somebody, it's a little bit different. They've got to do what you're doing. I fucking see in the eyes of somebody that's doing it. I think this is a man, Xavier Michael Babadar, whose first arrest comes in October, 2014 in Utah for theft. And then he gets arrested again in October, 2016,

two years later for theft in Utah. Then in February, 2020, he's arrested in Missouri for an unknown case. Records didn't show what it was, even though people were doing research. Then on Friday, December 16th, he was locked up in Texas for armed bank robbery. His mother, I think, has done time in jail. His brother has done time in jail. This man has been a petty theft for probably his entire life in the family business.

I think he was hoping that the Chiefs of Holic account could maybe become something that could fund him and he could live the right way. But to fill that account with memories and pictures and posts that people

can rally behind, he just had to fucking steal banks. He's going to jail for a long time. $200,000 bond. I assume they're going to start tracking back to a lot of away games in which he has flexed at the games, being at the games, and checking surrounding towns for banks that have potentially been robbed. And if they get any clips of these bank robbers running from the scene,

they'll just pull up a clip from his fucking twitter account that looks just like this this guy tries to run sideways while running forward that's a pretty distinct gate there if they have any video at any bank of any robbery that's unsolved and you get eyes on somebody running out of this dude's running completely sideways but moving forward i have no idea how happens. It's one of the most impressive running, like, defying physics I've ever seen. Goes against every running form you could have. Stands straight up. Arms are going directly sideways.

Feet are facing sideways. And he's moving forward. This wolf is fucking cheeky. This is a cheeky wolf. And he's an armed bank robber. Allegedly, that is happening right now. He's in jail. This is a cheeky wolf. And he's an armed bank robber. Allegedly, that is happening right now. He's in jail. This is all alleged.

But this thing could grow to who knows how many banks and unsolved robberies that have taken place. And it was all this super fan from the Kansas City Chiefs. We do not think all Kansas City Chiefs fans are psychopaths. We do not think all Kansas City Chiefs fans are X Factor, Red Extreme, who are, you know, noted super fans for the Chiefs who get into a brawl with each other. We do not think all Kansas City Chiefs fans are Helmet Man, who for some reason is on Tara Watchlist. We do not think all Kansas City Chiefs fans are Chiefsaholic, who's an armed robbing wolf. We will say, though, Chiefs fans, y'all got some wild motherfuckers in your kingdom. It is.

All come to the front, and we appreciate it. AJ, your thoughts on all that? I apologize for rambling there. I feel like a lot had to be said. He also sued Robert Kraft earlier this year because he slipped and fell at the stadium. So this guy is awesome. He's an insurance fraud genius.

He's an armed robber. He's an armed robber. He's a petty thefter. Who knows what else Xavier Michael Babadar is doing, but I think he's been crying out for help this entire time, and he finally got caught gun-handed. He wants to get caught, doesn't he? Is it like the serial killers or any killer that goes back to the crime scene when the cops come and kind of just keeps trolling

and wants to check out their work? Is that what this guy's doing by posting online? And his avatar or whatever on Twitter is the mask that he possibly wore to Rob Banks in, right? Well, not just on Twitter. He's going to the city's biggest event of that day. Oh, yeah. And standing in places where tens of thousands of people

can see him and hopefully more will. You think he's trying to blend in when he's at games? I just say not. Yeah, probably not. The people at, I can't wait to hear a firsthand account from a bank teller that was there. Yep. So I go to the game later and they were doing this thing on the Jumbotron. And I asked my husband.

I said, that's the fucking. That's not a bench. Rob, that's the fucking. That's not a tent. Rob, that's the. Same hat. Chiefs-a-holic. Chiefs-a-holic. Chiefs-a-holic. He's on there going to put him on the jumbotron.

There's no way. Yeah, that was him. That was absolutely. Oh, shut up. Shut up. All right, we don't have time for that. And then we move along. If he was robbing banks in this costume without the jersey, obviously.

If he just had a jacket, a pullover, maybe a three-quarter, say a little bit more professional, whatever it is, that is awesome. Have we thought of another super fan setting him up? Telling him to go rob Banks? No, literally legit taking his mask, putting it on, robbing that bank before. He goes, there's only room for me. Red Extreme.

So you think Red Extreme. I just threw that name out there because that's the only other one I know. If anyone was that cunning, it'd be that son of a bitch X Factor. What about Hat Man? He could set him up. Helmet Man. Helmet Man, dude. Helmet Man, how was he associated with 9-11?

It was the bombings. Oh, not 9-11. The 90s. Back in 93 or whatever. Yeah, exactly. That Biggie was rapping about. Yeah, yeah. Like the World Trade, right?

Because that was the thing that happened in the basement. Uh-huh. They were connecting him to. Yeah, he was around there somehow. Could have been that van. I have no idea. Yeah, it wasn't clean. Hats on.

That's a legend so i think this xavier michael babadar guy um i think he was trying to run away wasn't he he was trying to run away from the family business for so long he was trying to be accepted in the real world and now probably in jail for 20 sounds like his family was head of the kc mob, which is, if you guys don't know, a pretty serious mob. And he didn't want to do the family business. He was doing the family business. He was. Well, he was.

He has to do the family business or you're going to get sent to your room and not have fucking lasagna and skitties for dinner. Xavier Michael Babadar? Yeah, Babadar. You guys think he's using his real name? Babadini maybe? No, no. So nobody knew his name. I know. They called in a tip because he went missing. It might, Babadar, too. You guys think he's using his real name? Babadini, maybe? No, no. So nobody knew his name.

I know. They called in a tip because he went missing. It might be Babadini. They called in a tip because he went missing, but nobody knew his fucking name. They tried to figure out his name. They love this guy. He'd been around a long time in the Chiefs fan. They didn't know what his actual name was.

He bought something at a Patrick Mahomes Foundation charity, and they tried to snoop around through the charity to get what his name was so that they could report that he went missing. And somehow somebody found him, and it's, oh, he's in a penitentiary in fucking Texas. In Texas, they play games, too, with the judicial system. You know, Texas is really a place you want to get caught doing anything. You know, that is certainly where you're looking to get caught if you're robbing all over the country.

So this is all alleged. Seems like it's all very real. And I think the Chiefs should be pretty impressed with themselves that they have literally all backgrounds pulling hard for them more than any other team. You know what I hate about America? Jesus. Uh-oh. Is that it would be against the law to put all these Chiefs super fans in a

ring and have them fight to the death. Yeah, I can see how you hate a whole country because of that. Where do we do that? Where do we do that, Drake? all these Chiefs superfans in a ring and have them fight to the death. Yeah, I can see how you hate a whole country because of that. Why don't we do that? We think we can do that, Drake. Yeah. What do we get a thank you? Well, our laws should be a little more lenient for people who dress like superfans

and they should be able to fight to the death. You didn't like the guy that had all the ice balls coming out of his nose, did you? Yeah, that guy was... Froze Tundra guy. Froze Tundra guy. Well, that guy's awesome. Like, Steelers have great...

There's Suspenders guy. There's a guy who dressed – No, that's your mascot. What's his name? Willie Beeman? No. Steely McBean. Steely McBean.

Thank you. Have a little respect for Steely McBean. There we go. Hi, guys. That's not his real voice. Steely McBean was around back in the 30s, I guess. What's that, bro? In the 40s.

That's how Steely talks. That's local radio voice for him. Steely? DVE does voice of Steely McBean. He calls in every once in a while, and that's what Steely talks. That's local radio voice for him. Steely? DVE does voice of Steely McBeam. He calls in every once in a while, and that's what he sounds like. So he's a mascot, not a super fan. Right. It's a little different.

We don't know if that's what Steely McBeam sounds like. He's a hardworking guy. Probably has quick wit, if I had to guess. There's a Steelers pope. He's a super fan. Pittsburgh dad. Colts have a tuba guy. Packers dad was on the broadcast last night.

Packers' dad? Yeah, some guy who looks just like his Pittsburgh dad. Are you talking about Brian Baumgartner? No. Charlie Barron. Brett Michaels? Killing it? What was that all about, Brett Michaels?

Yeah, he's a fan of every team, huh? Turncoat. What are they doing? They're just pumping up the show. Later, dude. Sorry. They filmed that this week, obviously, I'm guessing, leading into this. I thought that was funny, by the way, because Aaron on FaceTime going,

is that Brett Michaels? I thought that was great. I thought that was very well. So let's do this, though. Super fans are every team. And do they have like a Facebook group that they're all part of? How will they handle one of their own being an armed bank robber? It feels like the Chiefs fans are trying to distance themselves from this.

I almost feel like they should maybe buy in, lean in. Bail him out. Yeah, bail him out. Get a go-fund-me together. Bail this dude out. I don't think we need to do that. But I do think Mahomes or Kelsey maybe fucking post this guy's bail. Maybe fucking have him be their personal driver maybe.

Think about how much he could steal from Patrick Mahomes if he was driving. This guy's a professional. October 2014, caught. 2016, caught. 2020, caught. Professional getting caught. December 16th, caught. Let's assume all the other times there's more.

Let's assume there's more than that. He goes into jail. They say he can't do this anymore. He says, bet. Comes out on the other side. Doing it again. Goes into jail. Comes out on the other side. Doing it again. Goes into jail. Comes out on the other side.

All right, I'm reformed. That was awesome. Thank you so much for that. There's $100,000 in that room right there. If I just grab this gun, I just got to go point at this old lady. Here we go, buddy. Simple. Goes to jail again.

Does he wear the mask in jail? I don't think you're allowed to take the mask in jail. You got to bend over. I don't know if it was glued on or not. jail. You've got to bend over, spread the sheets. I mean, did anything happen in Indianapolis when the Chiefs came to town this year? How can we not look at that? And I think it's small towns out around these places. Because we know a detective.

He's related to somebody in this. Those small town banks get hit because there's like three cops, two cops. Makes sense. And their response time probably not going to be as quick. So if you're only planning on doing it one time, it's like in and out, people do that. Like that is a career criminal move for some of these. Now, if Hacksaw Jim Duggan's working at the bank, you're fucked.

Oh, yeah. You're absolutely fucked. Oh! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! Have you heard about this? Have you heard about Hacksaw Jim Duggan and somebody breaking into his

house? Breaking into the wrong house? If you will, you're gonna just break into Hacksaw Jim Duggan's house and try to rob from him? I don't think so. Hacksaw Jim Duggan tackled a 20-some-year-old fucking intruder, pinned him down to the ground, had a 2x4 and a.44 caliber at his head,

saying, you're going to sit right here. Ho! Until the police came. So robbers are getting caught at an alarming rate. Hacksaw Jim Duggan is a fucking authority. You don't come into his house and think you're going to walk out with anything from it. And I wish he was at one of these banks that maybe the Chiefs of Holocaust walked into so we could get Wolf, American hero, square down in the lobby.

You win, you get the money. Hacksaw Jim Duggan wins, you live in this fucking vault for the rest of your life. That's a moment we need. And hope! That's what he had an entire arena do every time he walked up. It was awesome. He had a big thumbs up. With that two by four.

What a promo pick. Yeah, he looked good, didn't he? He was fucking a little top heavy, obviously. He was a great athlete. See, Otis is his father. I do not think he's related to Otis. Bronson Reekham. Hey, do we have Patrick Peterson on the show today? Oh, oh yeah they just got out of the meetings uh he's

about to walk out right now okay good i was in my head i'm like fuck we are seven minutes in yeah no yeah i felt like i was disrespectful anyways how do we feel about xavier michael babador yeah i mean nuclear weapon one both bad and electric. To Tony's point, I don't know about the hating America part, but the same way they have league owners meetings, can they not have league superfan meetings where they all come together? Like all the Dons. Exactly, all of them. Like the majors have silver bowls.

Red Extreme would be representing because he knocked out X Factor. Ringo and Frozen Tundra guy for the Packers and whoever for the Steelers because I'm sure they have a few just like him. And Tuba guy from the Colts. Fireman. They're all going to fight to the death, though, because each super fan has multiple super fans that think they're the best. Well, that's what we're saying, though.

Like, Red Extreme told X Factor. Knock him into another dimension. This is my time. My team. I am representing the chiefs yes every team would have somebody i assume absolutely and i don't think it would be a fight to the death amongst the dons i think they would be saying hey how do we get more proactive so that one of us don't become like an armed bank robber exactly or they're setting up hits for super fans they're not

really a fan of yeah of their own teams you know it's like hey listen if red extreme's up there he might be saying like you know what uh how about you know detroit don if you could shoot x factor in the head for me yes and we can just you know no one it'll never get traced back to me or you and then i'm the top dog still i think in aq do you haven't chimed in you've kind of sat out of this one and i don't know what that's all about. I feel like you probably have some good thoughts. Do you think we should have seen this coming? You know, that maybe these super fans aren't the best citizens? You know, maybe these people that are obsessive.

Got to be a little different, right? Yeah, and the amount of time they got to take to spend to do all this. Yeah, notoriety got to them. Yeah. The pressure. I need to do this. The personality traits of a super fan i think sometimes you're gonna have probably not good not good humans in there maybe there's a chance you're probably right 100 right i love your idea though it's like comic-con for fans right

like everybody just shows up sees sees who's the best yeah comic-con i don't think they're fighting to the death comic-con it's just all no's just autographs. You get them all in one place. I saw Jim Duggins there. There could be a seminar where all 32 of the super fans are up there. All the people who want to be super fans come. You can ask Red Xtreme a question. You can ask Frozen Tundra a question. You can ask all

these people and then maybe the mascots go too. They kind of lend a helping hand. Do the VCon. VCon next year, Indy. Do it there. I pieced together a lot of things last night about the old Gary Vee, didn't I? Oh, yeah. In the group text.

Oh, yeah. He's not writing another book ever again. No, no point. He does this because it's five-time New York Times bestseller. His name's Gary V. V is five in Roman numeral. Holy shit. It's just kind of coming together.

And then there was a post of him taking a shit. He didn't take one shit. He took two shits and he peed. He took a V. He took a five. That's right. What was that about? What do you mean?

Just piecing things together. Why was there a picture of him piecing it together? Two and a one. He took two twos. He dumped twice. Yeah. Two dumps and a pee. Why was there a picture of him dumping? He took a V. He took two twos. He dumped twice. Yeah. Two dumps and a pee. Why was there a picture of him dumping? He took a V.

He took a five. He took a... It only takes five minutes, by the way. He wiped and then pooped again, or it was two logs? No, no. Two logs, one poop. Yeah, he wiped, stood, felt. That's what I...

Okay, because that mathematically makes most sense. Gary needs to know. Gary, we fucking love you over here. Love you, Gary. We miss you, Gary. Gary, you are always Gary. Guys. Guys.

Why is that picture? Guys. Well, that is – Who took it? That's him taking two twos and a one. That's right. Because he's Gary V. Took five photos.

Is he also wearing the Earths or the Skies? I fucking love this dude. Why is the picture out? Who took the picture and why is it out there? We don't know. Self-time camera. I have no idea. Some guy had to pay $250,000.

Hey, Gary. Gary, we love that you're getting more into the sports world, too. He's getting more in with the Jets fans. We appreciate you really buying into the Jets and becoming this, not a super fan, but not a super fan. Could open the door. He's going to be an owner in the future. Gary, we want to let you know that when you put out messages

and phrase it in a way that we can all appreciate, it gets into our group text. And there's some people that don't read them all. I know this guy obviously doesn't. This guy obviously doesn't as well. But you've helped us out immensely over here, Gary. Thank you, Gary. Love you, Gary.

Miss you, Gary. Taught us all how to use perspective to help our lives every single day. Can't wait to see you and Babylon B. It's Gary B. That's what I'm talking about. Come on, Tom. Anyways, Gary, we appreciate it. He's coming to Indianapolis next year.

That's right. Okay, joining us now is a man who is not a super fan of any one team, but he's been dominant for numerous teams. Yes, right. Guy who gave a halftime speech. Why? teams. Yeah, that's right. Guy who gave a halftime speech. Why? A guy who has obviously been dominant for so long in the secondary. He was a star at LSU. He's a star with the Vikings. When he was with the Cardinals, he was maybe the most dangerous punt returner in the game, as well as being a

lockdown corner. Ladies and gentlemen, Patrick Peterson. I am back on the show. What up, fellas? Hey, what's up? Let's talk about something. Obviously, we're thankful you're spending time out of your day to come on the show. We appreciate it. You're an incredible athlete.

We appreciate it. You've done a lot for the NFL. We appreciate it. Why don't you just keep your fucking mouth shut at halftime? What is the deal? You gave a motivational speech? Is that real? And did you feel like you were the person that had to say it? And follow up, why?

Why didn't you just take the out of the Colts, let us have a good day, let Victor Viking shit all over himself? What's the deal? Man, it was, I don't know, just something that I felt that needed to be said. You know, Coach gave his spill. They was going over their adjustments.

We went over our defense adjustments, and at the end of the day, that's something that we needed. We needed five touchdowns if we wanted to win this game or get back into the ballgame. I've seen our offense put up big numbers in a half or four, and I said, you know, that's nothing. So let's go put together

a great second half of football and see what happens. Why? How'd you say it? Like loud? Was it yelling? Was it like a motivational speech? Oh, we need.

Like what was it? What was the tone? No, it was just real, just smooth. You know, I'm not a real big yeller. So I was like, yo, offense, you know, defense, defensively, we're going to go out here and get stops. All you guys need is five touchdowns. That's nothing.

And that was it. And, you know, I said a couple other things after that, and Josh Metellus kind of broke the huddle down and, you know, pretty much leading the guys, telling the guys don't look up, take it to play at a time, and let's see where it takes us. So it was nice and calm. Yeah, well, I wish you just would have said nothing.

Go ahead, AJ. Could you feel like the momentum shift in the second half and see I would imagine the Colts players started to not worry, but almost be like, there's no way we're losing this thing, are we? Did you ever feel that kind of change? Honestly, AJ, the change came around four

minutes in the third quarter because if you look at it, we didn't get our first touchdown until about five minutes up in the third. Three and out? Coach got three and out to the offense and you gave a speech too. So it was – we didn't get any momentum until like that late in the third quarter. And once we got around like 21-36, I was like, oh boy. I started walking up and down the sidelines saying, do you guys feel it?

It's starting to turn. Oh, she gave two speeches. How momentum. Yeah, so I'm a big talker, man, Mike, Pat. You know, so for the most part, you know, I got to get – if something's on my mind, my teammates are going to know about it. Well, congrats on winning the NFC North. Congrats on clinching. Congrats on the largest comeback in NFL history.

I was calling the Vegas Bowl at the time I didn't get to watch it live But I was getting updates 33-0, I felt real good I was living high in Vegas I was in a booth I was with Herbstreet here Dave Paschal was here

Rutledge was down on the field The game was good I'm calling a game I'm learning things 33-0 We are back Jeff Saturday might be the next Lombardi Then as we're calling this game

It's starting to become a fucking blowout. I start getting texts and, hey, it's 33-27. What? It's 33. What? How'd this happen? Did you guys make any actual adjustments at halftime to shut down the offense, or did it feel like the Colts were just kind of going into a show?

Because it was like three and out, three and out, three and out, three and out. I think they turned over on downs on the fourth and one what was it you think pat if you go back and look at the game the offense offensively they didn't do nothing the whole game you know if you look at the stats i think they only had didn't didn't have over 200 yard passing didn't have over 100 yard rushing you know so the stats there they i think they only scored one touchdown with four field goals so they really didn't do anything on the offensive side of the ball to beat us so no we didn't change anything we just played a little bit more aggressive send a little bit more pressure because obviously we knew we couldn't give up any more points or any first downs and just at the

end of the day just see where it was going to take us okay well let's move on. Congratulations. I'm happy for you. I've been a Vikings fan this year. I think everybody has heard it in here. But, boy, that was quite a spin in my life quickly. Just like this game has become a blowout that I'm calling, and somehow the Colts are blowing a massive lead at the same time. What a scene. It's record-breaking.

Now, people are talking about your team saying the fact that the Colts are up 33-zip in the first half and you're able to come team saying the fact that the Colts are up 33 zip in the first half and you're able to come back that's against the Colts whenever you get in the playoffs you're not gonna be able to do that against a good team do you guys hear all the chatter outside what are your thoughts about the team going into the playoffs because obviously you clinched how does the team feel about your chances of making a real run and why are people talking shit about you guys you think um man I don Man, I don't know. I don't know. I think so much of the media hate Kirk Cousins. I don't know why.

But I think so many people just dislike the things. I don't know if it's the way he carries himself or him having the persona of the cloud over his head or him not winning the big games. But Kirk is our guy, and we're riding with him. And for the most part, we got to go out there, go out there and continue proving ourselves right. You know, because, you know, people out, the outsider is going to always say, or they can't do it,

or we don't believe in this person. We don't believe in that guy. But as long as we continue to believe in ourselves, because the proof is in the pudding we've came back multiple times twice in the Detroit game first time Buffalo on the road um uh Washington on the road and now coming uh being a part of history 33 down um in the first half and coming back to win that game in overtime, we can win ballgames. Now it's just on us to continue to believe in ourselves that we can do it. Your punter's unbelievable too.

I mean, that guy. Yeah, Ryan. What's his deal? He kicks the ball so far all the time. Yeah, he's a stud, man. He's so good. You guys have been through a lot of punters over there. Like, actually, I don't want to put too much emphasis on the punting game

because obviously your defense is unbelievable. Offense has so many weapons. But, like, you guys have been through a lot of punters over there. Like, actually, I don't want to put too much emphasis on the punting game because obviously your defense is unbelievable. Offense has so many weapons. But, like, you guys have been through a lot of punters. Seems like you got, like, you got a guy. Seems like you guys got a guy over there. Yeah, that's big. Playoff skill. Yeah, and he's young.

And he's young. So, it may happen for a while. Oh, you think he's going to get better, huh? You think he's going to get better? No doubt about it. I might need to hook him up with my boy Pat, man. So you can give him a couple lessons. No.

He needs to hear nothing from me. He's fucking bombing, buddy. He's much better than me. You just do whatever you're doing, pal. AQ has a question for you, Pat. Pat, what's up, brother? We were teammates in Arizona for a bunch of years, right? Oh, what up, Sip?

What's happening? What's happening? So you remember in December, every other team we would face in Arizona, Green Bay, Minnesota, it would be filled with their fans, right? You're in Minnesota now. What an atmosphere. Talk a little bit about that, huh? Is it unbelievable in December?

Man, I mean, it's unbelievable all year. I'll never forget the first time i got here my alarm clock literally was the skull chant that's how exciting i was to be a part of this atmosphere and this fan base because when you have a fan base that we have here it makes you play that much more better on the defensive side of the ball. Unbelievable. Skull. Skull. Doom, doom. There it is.

Shut up. Nine minutes left. That's easy. Skull. Skull. How loud was that place in the second half? It was absurd? Oh, man. I thought we had, like, a little mini earthquake.

Man, it was like I saw my vision kind of shaking. It was pretty gnarly hey kevin o'connell seems like a sweet dude seems like he talks shit seems like he's not scared to uh swear a little bit which we appreciate around here because it feels like when you don't swear i just assume you're filtering yourself and if you're filtering yourself are you ever really your authentic self i don't know you tell me everybody has different things no yeah you definitely have to swear yes you. You have to swear. There's people that don't for good reason.

I respect you. I appreciate that decision. Follow up. You're withholding something. What else are you withholding? I would like to know you. That's a conversation for another day. Kevin O'Connor, former player, though.

What is your take on him as the head coach this far into the season? You guys have clinched the North already. You're in the playoffs. What are your thoughts on Kevin O'Connor, his first year as a head coach for you guys? coach has been great for us man the thing i love the most about coach that he allowed guys to be them you know he's not he didn't come in here trying to create robots you know didn't want to get want guys to lose their identity you know he just added you know his a couple monkey ranches in there for us helping helping us be a much more disciplined, smart football team and physical,

and just believing in the scheme and believing in one another. You know, just the belief that he's able to give us each and every Sunday is remarkable. And you don't see that from a lot of young coaches stepping into a head coaching job their first year. Good moxie. I like him. Oh, yeah. Pat, you ever show him your collection of muscle cars?

I know you have an unbelievable situation. I don't know if it's out in Arizona or where it is right now. I'm seeing some pictures. Oh, yeah. Like, man, I just want to live in a day in the life of Pat P one day. Me too. That would be great. Have you ever been to the – is that out in Phoenix? Yeah, that's in Scottsdale. Have you ever been to that luxury auto collection out there? No. No, I typically build all my cars.

I don't buy any cars. What? Yeah, I put my own touch onto it. Have you always been into that? Have you always – did you go to like – Yeah. Yeah? Yeah, I put my own touch onto it. Have you always been into that? Did you go to like, yeah? Yeah, I've always been into it. I think it started probably when I was around six when I saw my dad, best friend, building his 69 Nova from the ground up. I was like, man, whenever I have opportunity with some real cash and put some love and affection to these cars, I want to be able to do that as well. How many ponies are in that back one that's hoisted up?

It looks like it's a race. It looks like you got a little dragster here. That's my Camaro. I nicknamed that one Bodacious because that's just a tire burner. But it got about, I think that one has 850. You dragging that? Are we drag racing that or no? No, that's actually one of those circuit track cars.

So it's like more a car that go around in those short circles around the tracks. Do you drive those? Do you race? Every once in a while. You know, I'm not really like heavily, you know, having the helmet on and all that stuff. So I'm trying to finish my career here on the gridiron. So maybe after I'm done, I'll get a little bit more serious. What's the day-to-day up there in Minnesota?

Man, right now, the snow is falling yeah i think it's actually minus one degree and how do they measure that how do they measure that pat how they measure what an absence of a degree i have no idea me neither we were there negative 12 i'm like what the fuck does that even how do you know right how do you know it's cold as shit that's exactly right uh ty has a question for you pat yeah speaking of the cold pat being in arizona and then obviously at lsu you've been in minnesota for a few years now do you ever actually i mean i know you guys play inside but obviously multiple games in the division outside do you ever get acclimated to it being that cold or is that something that you kind of just never get used to um and for the most part you know i think it's all mental you know so for me i know i'm gonna be warm on the sideline i'm gonna be on the field for tops five minutes so if i can be able to with uh sustain five minutes of whatever,

however cold it is, I'm back on a bench for another five minutes. So honestly, it's just all about, it's all mental for the most part. So if you're able to sustain and defeat the cold mentally, you'll be all right. Thank Connor. Right, AJ? Well, absolutely. Yeah.

Take care of your hands and take care of your toes and take care of your hands. That's all I care about. You wear long sleeves? No doubt about it. You wear long sleeves or do you wear like a tiger? What was it? Tiger ball? Tiger ball.

Yeah, I like the tiger ball and the warm skin. Warm skin with some Vaseline. Yeah, but when ball is in there, isn't there – is that not a thing or you just glove it, palm it the whole time? Yeah, for the most part, you know, I don't get that much action, you know, especially now late in the year, so hopefully I get a tip interception or something like that.

But for the most part, they're not getting the ball back from me once I get it, so it's not leaving my possession. You can put oil on it. I'm trying to tell you. Connor, your question? Yeah, Pat, obviously kind of a wild weekend with the referees, but we were saying yesterday how

it has overall been a you know pretty good experience one play in particular was you guys getting that clear fumble clear return uh touchdown that got called back is there a conversation just behind closed doors between you and the rest maybe that's kind of like a hey sorry we screwed that one up or any sort of accountability and is there a conversation after that play immediately? And do not get yourself fined. A lot of people in the NFL office watch this show. Watch this show. Oh, you're a – Pat, you know I'm a vet.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not doing that. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. But when you see a situation like that, how do you handle it? How do you handle like an egregious fuck-up, obviously, but you got to move on? You didn't say that I did fine me if you can't. Right.

Well, you can, I on. You didn't say that I did. Find me if you can. Right. Well, you can. I guess Paffle would be back nonetheless. It was tough being in that situation. The first one, okay, I can kind of see that. But the second one, I was like, come on. I thought the instant replay is in place for things like this. If it comes close, don't blow the ball dead. Let's fix it later.

Exactly. If you have an opportunity to go back and look at an instant replay, then you go back and look at the replay to see if you got it right. I just felt like there was a little bit too whistle-happy Sunday, which caused us not to receive any of those touchdowns. 10 dicks. Pat, I think it happened to receive any of those touchdowns. 10 dicks. Pat, I think it happened to you a couple weeks ago potentially too. It doesn't matter when, who, where.

Corners and secondary, they're getting wild with laterals. It doesn't matter. This game situation, what's going on right now where you guys are just like, fuck it, we're going to lateral every time we get an interception? You know, honestly, that's not something that we always talk about i think that has to be something that comes with the veteran players coaches don't allow the young guys to have just that freelance to just throw the ball all over the goddamn place you know so you got to have some type of uh some type of skin in the game. You know, so only me and Harry is allowed to toss the ball back.

So I don't know how other teams do it, but on this team, only us two are allowed to toss the ball back. I have to talk about this, and things are good, so I apologize for having to bring up drama. Uh-oh. Have to. Whoops. Don't want to.

Sorry about that. Did you hear there's a super fan of the Kansas City Chiefs community that was robbing banks? Never mind. That's all I'm asking about. Name's you hear there's a super fan in the Kansas City Chiefs community that is Robin Banks? Never mind. That's all I'm asking about. Name's Chiefsaholic. You guys get bored during this week. Look into it.

I think the entire locker room will have quite a chuckle at what's been going on in the Kansas City Chiefs super fan community. You and Kyler, have you guys talked? No. Will you? I mean, yeah. I mean, if we ever get on the call, yeah, we can talk. I don't have no beef with Kyler.

I would love to talk with Kyler. That's my guy. Yeah, it is your guy, right? I mean, and that's why it was a big deal. And it feels like you're one of the only people that can maybe have a, you know what I mean? I mean, you've had it. Yeah, man, listen, I would love to talk to Kyler.

Like I said in my conference, I don't have no beef with him. I just want to help him understand the flaws that everyone else is seeing that can help his team become better. Because his team is looking at him for that leadership role. And that's all I was saying. To help sharpen up on his leadership skills, on how his teammates are going to perceive him and what they look at him for. That's all. Yeah, and how they react.

You've been around the NFL a long time, as did AJ. I think I had a few years in there of watching things up closely. Not everybody is just inherited with the perfect leadership qualities. It is something that people have to work through sometimes, especially at the quarterback position. So I don't think you're out of pocket for saying what you're saying. And I think you're one of the only people that could say it, especially now that you're outside the organization, as opposed to him thinking maybe the organization sent you to talk to him. I'm excited to see how that all pans out because I think the future of the NFL with Kyler Ballin

and everything is great. Oh man. Yes. No doubt about it. I concur with that. Hands down. Looking at the playoffs, Eagles, Jalen Hurts is hurt. He's going. Yes. No doubt about it. I concur with that. Hands down. Hands down. Looking at the playoffs, Eagles, Jalen Hurts is hurt. He's going to be out a couple weeks. You guys could potentially make a run at the number one seed here. You guys talking about that, or you just got to worry about your own shit? Man, for the most part, we got to worry about our own shit. You know, we got enough going on right now. We got a high-power, you know, pressure defense coming in here.

You know, Daniel Jones, the offense fit on themselves saquon barkley running down downhill as uh as a heat seeking missile you know so we have to worry about finding ways to go on one and oh each after each and every week you know that's our goal and and let the chips lie where they uh where they may at the end of the season time go ahead i don't know if you've seen, but your friend AQ over here, he keeps putting corners on his big bumps, his kill shot segment each week of – Yeah, hold on. We'll just give one away right now.

Here is – I feel like you shouldn't appreciate that. Here we go. Here's one from this week that this is what AQ wants to spotlight, you know, whenever – when he has the opportunity to for the big guys. And there's been a rule change I think Tone is going to talk about. What are you thinking whenever somebody like this guy

gets out and, oh no. Uh oh. Oh no. No. What are you being taught? And what are you supposed to do with these new rules? Of not being able to cut somebody there pat honestly that's great question tone man honestly what we're taught to do because the

offensive linemen do not know where the ball carrier is so we're taught to foot fake them yep call it the ai or fake them out the best we can because their whole obligation is to block us so if we're give them any quick move they're gonna fall for it which he tried here right that's what he tried to do here yeah but he he did a little bit too slow he got it gotta be quick they gotta be nice and fast oh man you've been through the NFL. Hey, but that hurt. Yeah, I can imagine. Because you were back in the days where they could cut, you know? Yeah, which I like that. Yeah, hell yeah. Sorry, AQ.

Hey, I used to like cutting downfield too because exactly what you said. Once I got that foot fake, I was falling on the fucking ground. So as long as I could just run out there and dive, I'd make you guys make the first move. AJ, go ahead, pal. No, I was saying on that one, Pat, it would be nice to go hard outside leg, make a pile, wouldn't it? But now they changed all that for you.

Right. You mentioned Kirk Cousins earlier. I guess, I don't know if you had a relationship with Kirk before you got there, but what was it like getting there and seeing Kirk operate in the facility as the quarterback of the Vikings when you're his teammate and not just watching from afar? Man, I had the opportunity to spend some time with Kirk, you know, over the years when he

was in Washington, played a ton of golf with him whenever he came out to Arizona or, you know, whenever we saw each other throughout states, you know, throughout the U.S. But, you know, Kirk's a great guy, man. He's just what you see on TV and in his press conference you see that every day around the building just a great sense of humor a great leader a man of god and uh and just a true competitor you know just want to pour everything into not only his teammates but into his game to help us be the best team that we know that we can be connor has a question for you yeah pat when you're looking at Arizona as a whole,

what do you think has kind of been that problem? Not just the whole Kyler situation, but also what has gone wrong for them this season? Why do you think the expectations were so high and kind of under-delivered? And don't feel obligated to answer. It's not the team you're with, but you are a person that has seen it from inside out.

And you know what, Connor? I'm not going to answer that question because I don't want the Arizona Cardinals fans coming at me for telling the truth. And I'm just, I'm really just tired of them coming after me right now. Cause I love them. And I don't want to continue. If they think I'm digging a hole for myself,

anything like that, but it's a lot of things that, that goes wrong in that organization that I'm not going to hit on. So we'll talk about that another day. Well, let's talk about the Minnesota Vikings. What have you seen from this new regime that makes you think like, wow, it is great to be a part of this operation right now, as opposed to what you may be seeing in the truth, you know, telling, not just telling guys what they want to hear, you know. So that's the, you know, that's just the, you know, I had a coach that told me this a long time ago.

You know, average player don't want to be coached. Good players are coachable, but great players want to be told the truth. Tell me the truth. That's all I want to know. You can't handle it, though. You can't handle it. You can't handle the truth. I'm a man's man.

I can handle whatever you want to talk about, we can talk about. That's just how I am. I respect that. And now coming in with these guys and just being around the coaching staff, being around the teammates, it's just a fresh breath, a new fresh breath of air. You think they'll be able to maintain this feeling, these five? Because I feel like what happens is maybe a little success happens, not with everybody, but maybe a little success happens,

and then all of a sudden things change over time. Maybe some people get a little bit happens, not with everybody, but maybe a little success happens, and then all of a sudden things like change over time, maybe some people get a little bit more controlling in another area. You think this is something that's sustainable over there with everything that's operating? I really do think it is. But, you know, time will tell. You never know what things may get in the way.

But I do believe there's a great group of guys around here. K.O. did a great job of, of his coaching staff hiring. Kweisi did an awesome job of, you know, bringing in, adding, adding on to the scouting department that we already had here, adding on a great personnel up there as well. But, you know, I really do think that this is a group that can really be together for the long run. I love that. I love to hear that.

Congratulations on an incredible year thus far. Good luck the rest of the way. I would not be dapping up Harrison Phillips for a while. Be careful. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, Patrick Peters.

Yeah! A man who is fresh out of a victory over the Super Bowl champion Los Angeles Rams in Lambeau last evening on Monday Night Football and Monday Night Football with the Manning cast. He's the back-to-back NFL MVP. Ladies and gentlemen, Aaron Rodgers. Howdy, boys. How you doing? Good sweatshirt. Love it.

Holiday spirit alive and well over there, Mr. Rodgers. Oh! I was just staring at your stomach right there, that dude's face. I didn't even notice that. I appreciate the hell out of you. How are you over there? We got the red and the green, man, you know? Christmas.

Nice. Hell yeah. I know the Crosbys took the holiday party or whatever this year. It's nice to see you're still celebrating. Thanksgiving, yes. I don't know if there's a holiday party. There might be a Christmas party or a Hanukkah party or an all-encompassing party. I'm not sure yet.

So we had a Christmas party. It was two weeks ago. Going to have a holiday party here coming up. Yeah, we will. All-encompassing. Can't wait for that. We're going to have both. Means to celebrate. Speaking of celebrating, great win last night great win last night couple more

yeah huge couple more touchdowns easily possible that score could have been 38 to 12 people talking about how close the game it was it could have scored at the end could have done that what did you learn last night about your team that's's a big-time win on primetime football, Aaron. Yeah, I mean, we had to win it. It was a must-win for us. It was a game we should have won at home against a team that hasn't had a great season. So, you know, for us, it's a good step. We expect to win those type of games, even though we've obviously had an up-and-down season,

a little frustrating at times. But it sets us up for more meaningful games. So now we've got a game five days on Christmas against a good football team who's in a playoff hunt in Miami with a lot of different weather. We're going from 15 with a wind chill and probably single digits to look like somewhere in the 60s. Thursday, Friday, it might be in the 70s or 80s. So who knows what that weather is going to be. Oh, thick, too.

Nice little change for us. But, yeah, you know, we're still playing meaningful games. It's been, like I said, it's been a strange season. There's been a lot of ups and downs. But I like the way we're playing. I like what, you know, how our team has evolved. I said last night, you know, and obviously, Patty, you being a teamer, I can't believe that we now have a returner

who they kicked the ball away from. That's incredible. I mean, what Keyshawn has done in the short amount of time, Ty, you must be going as crazy as I am. How about you jogging on the field to start a series and not leaving the coach's box and going left or deep right? You know, like, ah, going back to the 10 because there's a holding penalty. Great.

Could have just had a touchback. Now it's like we're out at the 50. We've already picked up like two, three first downs. It is a weapon and Basacha, have you seen? He was striding out on that fucking sideline and almost tackled a guy. Incredible. Was he? Yeah, yeah. In sweats I think. I think he had full sweats. He was striding out on that fucking sideline and almost tackled a guy. Incredible return. Was he? Yeah, yeah. In sweats, I think.

I think he had full sweats. He was sprinting down the sideline. I mean, but look at this guy. I mean, it's not like – look, it's tough. That's a tough – you know, being on a kickoff team is tough. And you're not always going to get all your blocks. But he just ran around like four guys there and started on the other side of the 50. It's pretty impressive.

He had a bunch of great returns. I saw something we've had like nine. He's had eight 30-plus yard kickoff returns, and we only had nine like in the last three years or something crazy like that. And he's only been doing it for, what, the last eight or nine weeks? You probably liked that tackle there, didn't you? Yeah. I liked the old submarine dive in there by the kicker.

But also, did you see, I was just pointing out Basacha. Basacha's running down the sideline with him. He has to be elated because at the beginning there, yeah, you go play, play, play. Can you circle it? Can you circle it? Right there. Right there. And he had been sprinting literally down the whole sideline.

And then the pile gets over here, which it feels like the whole team gets, team gets it's a spark you know a big return is like an immediate juice you guys have never had that and at the beginning of the year i don't think the basacha effect had fully taken place it feels like you're in a good spot now in a in a phase of the game that you haven't been for what like decades almost right there well i would say the last time you felt really really good about a returner back there was probably young Randall Cobb. You know, his first game ever, he returned it like 108 for a touchdown. And, you know, Micah Hyde as well was a good returner for us. I think he returned a couple of punts for a touchdown.

But kickoff return, man, that's been a long time. It really has. It's been a lot of like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You know? And now it's like, bring it out, Keith. Bring it out. Come on. It's a weapon. of like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You know? And now it's like, bring it out, Keith. Bring it out. Come on. It's a weapon.

Go ahead, AJ. Hey, what about your guys' signals? There's a time in the game where you – yeah, Pat's showing you right there. You might have been a little bit upset. Obviously, great teammate, great leader. You guys like dapped it up right after that. What's going on with your hand signal? Like all your signals.

How do you do that? Are you the only one that knows what's going on? They wrote up. They wrote a lot about this. Let me just say it. Let me tell you, I was made aware of that article. It is by far the dumbest nothing burger article that I've read in the entire season. I won't say in my career because, I mean, last year there were some of the dumbest articles you could possibly imagine.

I don't know if you ever topped the COVID to a Wall Street Journal, but this was the dumbest article of the year by far. Bro, how about when you put your pinky toe as the – Oh, yeah. I mean, you put it as your Twitter profile. It's still up, by the way. It's still up. I believe, unless it's got taken down for some reason by Elon

or members of the FBI are trying to censor it. Hashtag Twitter files. Hashtag Twitter files, of course. They are lit. It seems like Aaron has made his way over there to read that. But nonetheless, the Nothing Burger article, it alleged from anonymous sources, I believe, that you will use signals from years, like two or three years ago, and none of the wide receivers know what it means. young guys specifically don't know what it means and then they get like accosted for not

knowing what it means when you never taught them that and like last night was a perfect indicator of like you doing one perfectly timed after the article comes out and it didn't work out so how many do you have and how is every word in that article bullshit do you have because you have to change your signals a lot i would assume right don't you have to change them a lot 95 of articles absolute complete horseshit okay all right and the other five percent the other five percent is exaggerated nothingness that i don't know like having guys uh you know go through the signals each week and understand what the possible signals could be.

So the way we do it now is that Jordan makes up a list of the signals that we're going to have that week that are possible. And then he calls. I've allowed him to do this. I used to do this when I was a backup as well. And he calls like three or four guys up there to, you know, go through. And he picks on one of them. Hey, you know, what's the signal for this? What's the the signal for this and it might be nerve-wracking the first time

you do it but listen every signal that's used in the game is probably used in practice that week and there's hardly any signals that are ever you know there's not it's not like there's that many signals there's some signals in the two minute i think the entire season we've maybe missed one or two signals on the year for the entire season. So it's not hard at all. Like the fact that this is made to be a story, like I said, is the most ridiculous nothing story that I've read the entire year, and that's saying a lot.

You said exaggerated nothingness, one of the most profound statements I've heard from you. That was an incredible way to describe something. Oh, we have signals for our offense that we expect you guys to know. Oh, and then there was something about that it's not written or it's not stored anywhere. There's not a file.

Yeah, what's that about? I don't know. That's just completely ridiculous. You don't have it in the cloud? Have there been certain coaches who are afraid to teach young guys signals who might not be on the roster later once the strategy happens? Yeah. I think that seems like a normal thing.

But are the signals used throughout training camp, throughout the preseason, throughout the week in practice? Yeah. Are they difficult? No. I was told. It's an absolute nothing story. Shout out to Gumpy.

I was told that you were stubborn and arrogant and cocky and standoffish. You got Jordan Love leading these meetings? Like, how come that didn't show up in the article? Jordan Love's the one that is actually doing it. But, yeah, let's bury Aaron. I'm happy to hear you got to defend yourself there, obviously. We try to make that happen every single week because you're one of the most interesting. Look, and I'm not sensitive about it all.

But if there's a nothing story that needs to be brought, it's literally one of the dumbest stories I've read since the Wall Street Journal story, which is saying a lot., which is saying a lot. It really is saying a lot. A lot of things have been wrote since then. Can we go back to that play? Because I feel like you didn't even know he wasn't looking at you until the ball hits the ground.

Because you give the signal, and then it's like such a quick throw for you. Were you looking at the defense and you saw a touchdown? Like right here, you're not even looking at him yet, I don't think, and then the ball hits the ground. Then you're like, oh, fuck. Do you check out what the possibility is of him scoring while that ball is in the air you just assumed the ball is completed and then you didn't even know he didn't get the signal until the ball hits the ground there i assumed like right there if you pause it that

he was going to turn around real quick and catch him got it that was basically what he was supposed to do but listen i you know probably should have switched probably should have switched him in the huddle. And it was kind of called for Christian to get a touchdown. Maybe I should have just switched it and had Randall do it because Randall obviously knew what the signal was. Oh, now everybody's going to attack you for that. Is he supposed to give you like a cosign? Is he supposed to confirm signal somehow?

Like how do you know if they get it? Yeah, what if he does this back? Well, I mean, he, you know, maybe do something else back if he gets it. But listen, you know, it's hilarious because that was probably one of the first, like one of maybe two or three times where a guy has, you know, got a signal, acted like they knew what it was, and then not really done it. It happened with a side judge with Terry McLaurin a couple days ago as well. So it seems like we have some miscommunications

through hand signals with each other. Let's get that tight. I don't even want to go into that one. Yeah, yeah, you don't have to. I could rip about that one for a while because it's – I mean, I watched that play. What's Terry supposed to do? I don't.

That's been happening in every football game I've watched in like 20 years too. And it seems like a standard head nod, yup, you're good. And even like moves forward a step and a head nod happens and then boom. Yeah. That's tough, Aaron, honestly. And I don't, what a state of officiating. How come they're not full time? How is that not a thing you think?

And you've been in the NFL a long time. I would assume that there was a conversation about refs not being full-time back in the day, like maybe a decade and a half ago. But now that we're at this point with how much money is being made, how big the league is, sports, gambling is becoming a very real thing. How have they not fixed that, you think, Aaron? Just as somebody who's been around the NFL a long time, is very observant, why haven't they and how would you?

Well, I mean, Pat, think about it in 2012. They had the chance to after we had that absolute fiasco with the replacement. They had the chance to fix all that. I think it comes down to... That's 10 years ago.

It comes down to the one thing that runs the whole league, right? That almighty dollar. Oh, they're making enough, aren't they? Aren't we making enough? We'll make more. We'll make more money with how, if they better the game, it'll grow the game bigger.

It'll make it more legit. Everything will get better, I think, if you get a better, right? If you build it, they will come, I feel like, is the mindset in this particular case. Well, yeah, but there's been some interesting adjustments they've made the last few years. I mean, they tried to make capacity interference a reviewable call. That was kind of a slippery slope with the subjective nature of that call. What they're doing now, I think everybody who knows football knows that there's basically another ref up in the booth who's who's allowing them to make quick decisions and revisions if necessary in real time where they're

kind of hold the play sometimes and it's like 10 seconds 15 seconds later almost oh you know the real on the field isn't a complete path play last night with randall right you caught a pass look like going on the ground may have actually fumbled in the whole process. Zach Tom recovered it, so he would have got the ball back. They spot it. Then about 10 seconds later, they say, no, you know, Rulon feels a complete pass. That, you know, is coming from up top.

So they're doing that, which I think that actually helps. Because the thing that it does is that it takes away a challenge by a yeah yeah yeah so now coach doesn't have to you know challenge a play that that's probably kind of an easy one for them to fix in real time so i think that's a good decision but there's a lot of things you know the rough in the past what are they gonna do rough in the past are they gonna make that a a reviewable play now i don't again it's subjective it's real real-time to slow motion. You're dealing with a lot of moving pieces here. I think that's very difficult.

I think, you know, as a competitor, I would guess, and I'm speaking for some of these quarterbacks, and some of them I actually see are kind of begging for a call, but most of those calls, I'm not like wanting those calls. I mean, I feel like there's a level of contact that we enjoy being a part of as quarterbacks, even though we're, you know, we're not hitting every single play, but it makes us feel like we're part of the game. And I think those of us have been around a long time.

You know, we appreciate being a part of contact. Now, maybe, you know, some of the, you know, crazy hits to. Now, maybe some of the crazy hits to the head and then some of the lower leg ones, we'd like to see maybe those, especially the ones you can avoid, those out of the game. But so many of these are literally just like, what? The guy, is his arm off of the guy? Is it bracing? Is it not bracing?

It seems like there's some soft calls. Let's say you were commissioner for the day hypothetical or for a year. What's like an impactful, what's some impactful changes you would want to make that sky judge thing sounds amazing. They should, they should encourage more interaction with that person. I think. Pat, I think they really do a lot with it. Honestly, I think. Oh really?

I think it was happening a lot. I think it was happening before they acknowledged it. And I think it's happening a decent amount as well. So I think that's good. I think it's been good for it. I think he has, in all his infinite free time now being a new father, has somehow found time to research artificial surfaces and can tell me the difference between a few of them and what teams have a certain type that's more dangerous or shittier in his words, not mine, his words, quality. But I would like to see some uniformity.

quality. I would like to see some uniformity. I think every player wants to play on grass over artificial surface. I think, I would think, and again, who knows what the almighty scientific data will show,

but I would think that at a bare minimum, joint relief will be much better on grass. And I would think posture that many of the non-contact injuries happen more frequently on turf. But again, that's just a guess and a feeling. You feel better, probably going to play better.

Better product, more fans, more money. Boom. Boom. It does come down to the almighty dollar. You might have to spend some to make some in return. I think it was, what was it, the slit turf or something like that. They were all hashtag no more slits. No more slit turf or no more.

Remember? I think that sounds about right. Dave was telling me about it the other day on the ride down in the golf cart that he wanted me to mention that he bought for me as a present. So big shout out to Dave again. Yeah. Is he healthy? How's he feeling, you think? You know, Dave's got a tender belly button. He has a tender belly button. There's, I guess, there's a couple of slips that happen. One kind of goes through the belly button, I guess there's a couple slips that happen. One kind of goes through the belly button.

Very tender belly button. So I know that's one of Frankie's favorite orifices, so it's probably been a little difficult, but they got other things going on with the baby, new baby. Frankie's his wife, yeah. So he's a little tender right now still, but doing better. Great to hear. Thank you. Godspeed over there, Bach, honestly. Get get that bullet point back let's talk about last night's game

because we haven't really got a chance to hit it as hard aj dylan was running hard till he got hurt you think he's gonna be okay what did you see out of dobbs in his return i mean it feels like a lot of these young guys are really starting to step up a lot more than maybe earlier in the season are really starting to step up a lot more than maybe earlier in the season. I think that's definitely safe to say. I was really proud of Aaron Jones because Aaron kind of got banged up on the touchdown catch where he dove in the end zone, kind of got hit a little low. So there was talk he might not actually come back in the game.

Then A.J. gets dinged, and here's Jonesy coming back in the game. It just shows his toughness. I thought Patrick Taylor came in, did a nice job for us as well with a few carries. But, yeah, Dobbs coming back was good. Like I said, I love the way he catches the ball with his hands. I think there was a couple catching runs that he's getting back into it. So, you know, I think he maybe left a little bit of yardage out there. But I like the way he runs his routes.

I like the way he catches the ball with his hands, and really fun having 87 back. And then everybody else just kind of did their job. I feel like all the roles that we expect our guys to play, they did well. Big Dog had a nice little catch on a keeper, and then obviously dominated the line of scrimmage, as he always does. You know, Allen super unselfishly blocked and blocked for us, as he always does. Cobby had a couple nice catches on third down for us.

So, you know, it's a very soft defense, a lot of quick game, a lot of run football. So that was the way we needed to win, and defense held up and did their job. It was kind of one of those grinded out, not the prettiest, but two-score victory in December football at Lambeau Field. How's Thumb? Thumb's better. Thumb's a lot better. It doesn't give me the same issues it was before.

The week off was, you know, I kind of talked about it for a while and hoped that I maybe would get over the thumb before the bye week, but the bye week definitely got the thumb where it needed to be, and the ribs felt better. It took some shots, but feeling good. I'm not sure what A.J.'s status will be coming up because he did get dinged and Jonesy, but we're going to need everybody

for Sunday. All right, on a hell of a run. Going to have to continue that. Ty can't wait to watch it. Go ahead, Ty. Aaron, great win last night. Love that we're living to fight another day. Expanding on Pat's question, last night was pretty much the first time since week one

that you've kind of had the full complement of weapons. Did things seem easier out there? I don't know if that's the right way to say it, but did things almost seem easier? And were you encouraged by how the offense played, you know, moving forward the next couple weeks and then in the future as well? Well, I think that we were patient. You know, we didn't try and force a lot of stuff.

They played a lot of two-shell, and we just kind of dinked and dunked for the most part. It was a high-percentage game. And then we ran the football pretty effectively as well. So I was happy about that. Every game is going to be different. You know, the Rams didn't challenge us a whole lot. They kind of tried to stop the run with their front

and play a lot of kind of umbrella coverage in the back end. I believe Miami is going to play a little bit more aggressively. You know, they do have some empty pressure in their package, and they like to bring some combo pressures and kind of challenge you a little bit more on the outside. So it should be interesting to see kind of how they play us. Obviously, their dynamic on offense, too, has had a really nice season. He's got, you know, a couple crazy speedy weapons on the outside

and some solid guys that can work the middle and obviously a couple good backs. So we're going to have to score. I think I said we need to score 30 every week. And to me, I know we were scoring 24 last night, but we're on the one-yard line kneeling the ball down. Like, you know, it felt like that was a 30 game. But I feel good about the momentum we're creating now people would be like

oh you beat a couple bad football teams yeah but we we won a couple games in a row and honestly in this league and you guys both played um age and pat but it honestly doesn't matter who you beat when you start stacking some things together and the momentum starts to roll, the confidence grows. And when the confidence grows and the energy grows during the week of practice and you just kind of get this thing, this mojo going, and, you know, we feel like we can beat anybody. You know, we've played some really good football teams tough. We've also lost to some not-so-great football teams.

But that's kind of the league this year. Look at what the Texans have done the last two weeks. You know, they've played, what, Texans have done the last two weeks. They played the Chiefs and the Cowboys super tough and had them both on the ropes. Cowboys 10-3 and

lost to a 5-8 team in an overtime game. There's always I think the parity in the league is very tight. But we've got two teams winning record and a team that's won six out of seven coming up and we got to win all three and and obviously need a little bit of help too i think learning to win is a big deal just to kind of echo your point there and your team is seemingly doing that right now first time you've won two in a row since week four i heard lisa say that last night

in the interview uh yeah, no problem. You dropped not all of them. One of them is 500. Then the internet was like, of course Aaron knows everything that's happening in every situation. Even though this guy doesn't care, remember, knows. Well, it's like one's 500, right? Let's not get too far. I almost said that was three in a row too

by the way, Lisa. Oh, is it? Well, we lost our first one, right? Yeah. And we won three in a row. Oh, so you could have had a couple. Then we lost five in a row. And then we won one. Then we lost two.

And now we've won two. So we've had a moment. There was three in a row back in the day. Obviously, we've done that. We've showcased that we can win back to back to back. This time you've got to win back to back to back to back to bach and then you have to have other things happen right and the other things that have to happen i think the giants have to get swept uh they have the indianapolis colts as well as the vikings and the eagles so there's a chance that that could happen there's some other stuff that has nothing no but because the giants

the giants just won right they beat they beat the Commanders. So we need Commanders to lose two out of three or Giants to lose three. So we don't need both of those things to happen. We need Seattle to lose this week to – Kansas City, I believe. Thank you, Kansas City. Giants are playing at Minnesota. Washington is playing somebody who can beat them as well. Who are they playing?

Washington Niners. Washington Niners, yeah. Certainly can. The Niners certainly can beat any team. I got to see them live. Hey, Aaron, I know you get to stare at NFL defenses all the time. I went out to Seattle to watch them live with Herbie, you know, with the Amazon call.

That defense is so fucking fast. They are. It is absurd. Is that what every top tier defense is like? Or is their defense different than everybody else's? And why do you think? Just from observing. With AD Aaron Donald out of the league, they might have the best defense player in the league.

Fred? Well, Fred isn't. best defense player in the league. Fred? Well, Fred isn't... Oh, Bosa. Yeah, Fred is incredible, but I was going to say Bosa. Just because he's such a difference maker off the edge, and he's got so many moves, and he's

run and pass and athletic. He's so fucking big. Seeing him live, he is a stallion of a human being. I did not expect that. I had no idea that that was the case. His brother, too, is a hell of a player. His brother's been banged up a little bit, but that family is, you know.

Are they from Ohio or Pittsburgh? Which one? Pittsburgh. That's from Pittsburgh. Yeah, of course. Their dad is Jack still, too. Well, and their grandpa, pretty. Yeah.

I don't think he fucked around much. No, no. They go into, he goes into a four point out there. He looked like a jungle cat, literally at the end of their fucking defense. When I was watching from the booth, I'm like, what is that thing? And then it's faster and stronger than everybody. It's like, oh, my God. Let's get back to the.

I mean, but then look at the other side. I mean, they won like six in riding now, the Niners, right? But you got, you know, you got a top tight end. You got a couple stud receivers. You got the utility guy, Nebo. Then you go trade for, you know, let's get McCaffrey. Oh, shit. Okay.

And then we're going to play the Mr. Relevant. And he's going to play really well. It's like, they've got a good thing going out there. They've been rolling. But, I mean, that's what it comes down to. It comes down to playing well late in the season, right?

And I think that's what every team who's in it or has a chance is going to be trying to do. You're going to be trying to do. You're going to be trying to play your best ball. Because I just see really, and I speak for the NFC, the NFC I think is really wide open. I know Philly's 13-1. But San Fran's won six in a row. Obviously Minnesota coming, a crazy all-time comeback there. They're super talented.

You know, then you got Tampa and three, five, and nine teams, you know, going for the South. And Tampa, you know, again, they get in. They still have a, you know, high-caliber defense. Still got Tommy. You know, who knows what could happen with that. You got maybe a five seed in Dallas the way it is right now, who's got a ton of talent on both sides of the ball,

but has gotten beat by some teams losing records, including the G&G. And then who knows what's going to shake out in six and seven, but I feel like anybody can beat anybody in the NFC. The G&G. Green and gold. Green and gold. Green and gold. Green and gold. Oh, you're talking about you guys?

Yeah. Oh. Okay. That is pretty cool. You guys call yourselves a G and G? I first heard that term from an old player we had who AJ nicknamed the Hamburglar, Mark Tauscher. Oh, I thought that was –

I can't claim that. I cannot claim that, Tauscher. It was not me. Yeah, no, it's me. There's a Hamburglar. There's certainly a Hamburglar. You were cliffy. Had to talk.

I mean, what do you want us to do there? There's a nickname of somebody called the Hamburglar that was on the Packers back in the day. Is that real? Yeah, I think so. I think so. I think AJ knows. Maybe he missed me. Maybe he mistitled. Great nickname.

Probably should have been directed elsewhere. Here's the Hamburglar here himself. He does kind of look like the Hamburglar. He used to call it the G&G. He said, hey, it's the G&G, boys. That's what we play for. You put the hat on him. Shout out to the Hamburglar, man.

Shout out. Not that Hamburglar you guys are thinking about. No. We had an old teammate, too, who used to say, green is for the money, gold for the honeys. Oh, bars. That might be the other name. That was Brett.

Yeah, there it is that was brett farley uh i had that into his defense the um so what i was what i was going to roll with there is a lot of things have to happen feasible things have to happen you guys have to win out could make the playoffs and if you do who knows what's going to happen you just ran through all the teams that could get in there and I love the fact that you care enough to know all that shit invested still at this stage, which leads to this question even more. A lot of people are talking about the future of the Packers and the future of this, the future of that. That's what has to happen in the sports media world,

especially when you're talking about you and the Green Bay Packers. It's going to get loud. Has there been a thought about how much you love these young weapons? Because that became like a narrative almost. going to get loud has there been a thought about how much you love these young weapons because that became like a narrative almost aaron would like for the young weapons to prove that they could be somebody he can grow with and that'll affect his decision going forward is that real was that ever something did you say that and have you felt that at all with the young weapons you have without davante this season that's fake news pet All right. Never would have guessed it.

Never would have guessed it. I read that and I was like, that makes sense. But is there any thought of that at all? Is that going to anything? I think it's fake news that I'm like, you know, going to, you know, I'm like judging the progress as to, you know, whether or not I want to come back. Listen, I've really enjoyed being a part of their rookie season and being able to hopefully have an impact on them

and the conversation that we've had and being a part of watching Christian. And I'm not taking any credit for this, but just being a part of it, being on the field, giving the football, watching his confidence grow and watching Romeo Dobbs become a player and throwing Samara Toure's first touchdown was awesome in Buffalo on Sunday Night Football. It's just a cool moment to be a part of. But my decision will come down to mentally where I'm at,

physically how I'm feeling, and then encompassing the enormity of another grind and then committing to that and moving forward or stepping away. But listen, I mean, obviously you're looking at the team and who's going to be there, but I feel like as long as I've been there, we've been able to do things with a number of different players and make things work.

There's excitement around any time young players start to step into their own and find their confidence. But for me, it's just going to be my own personal decision on where I'm at mentally and physically. All right, good luck. We're excited to watch it all unfold for the rest of the year and that conversation with yourself. Always wishing for your happiness at all times.

Tony Diggs has a question for you, pal. Aaron, I believe it was end of the half. You ran about, I don't know, 106 yards for the Hail Mary and then barely got tripped up. Was that the most frustrating play of last night? And then, like, in case you didn't throw a Hail Mary from the 45, which I think most NFL quarterbacks can't. All right.

And you did, like, a whoop-dee-woo pitch back, and it was you and Chandler Jones one-on-one. You think you'd make that that year? All right. Jeez. Jeez. Oh, jeez. I mean, we almost had a play like'd make that? Jeez. I mean,

we almost had a play like that last night, too. I mean, Rasul was plowing that thing back to not sure who, but man, I was not watching that Raider game, and then I saw that somebody scored on

the last play of the game. I was like, how'd they get the ball back? Because they had just thrown an alleged touchdown. Thank you. By the game. Will you relax, Connor? Hey, Aaron, real quick, don't want to stop you. Did you see him lose his mind yesterday to that alleged touchdown photo? I don't know if you've seen it.

One of the greatest freakouts in Boston Connor history, honestly. I did not. I you've seen it. One of the greatest freakouts in Boston Connor history, honestly. I did not. I'll send it over. But one play doesn't make a game, right, BC? Yes, exactly. Yeah. However, that one play. It was a touchdown.

You know, people forget probably this play because it became a nothing play i mean maybe not to some detroit fans but in 2015 when we play on thursday night it's all we had like about six seconds left i threw it threw it to james jones he makes a fingertip catch amazing catch it proceeds lateral to uh richard rogers who in his infinite wisdom decides to throw back to the guy farthest back, which is me, with nobody in pitch position and two guys coming at me. One of them who grabs my face mask, give us another play. Allegedly. Oh, no.

He got a fistful big time. Oh, yeah. Oh, really? The most same old Lions play of all time. They're not going to do that this year. You need to know that. This is a brand new Lions. But it does make sense that the same old Lions had a play stopped.

And they said, you know what? Get another take at it. Yeah. What happened on the next play? But you got it in those situations. It's going forward. Like we got a touchdown. That Hail Mary that hits off the top?

Yes. The game was over, Pat. It was a game over. And they gave him an extra play. Yeah, all-timer. I did not know that. Oh, that's amazing. Yeah.

See, people forget about that play, but that kept us alive, gave us 15. And then Richard ends up atoning for his – actually, he made the play because if he hadn't thrown it back to me and I got face-masked, game wouldn't have been over anyway. So big kudos to Rich. Awesome, smart, heady player. But to answer your question, who asked it? Was that Tone that asked it?

Yeah. He took a lot of shots. Sorry, Tone. That was a very frustrating play for sure because it's one of those plays you think, man, five years ago i definitely would have got that ball off you know oh maybe half step quicker to get out of there i knew i was gonna have to take you know a little bit of time and so rolled left and kind of moved around it's a tough situation you're trying to find a spot you know sometimes when you get drilled on some of those hill marys you get some like i tell you this, and this is a long, dumb answer, but in 2011, we were playing Kansas City,

we were 13-0, and they had two good Russians, right? One of them was a guy named Tamba Ali. And Tamba Ali absolutely drilled me in the back on a scramble. I, like, stepped up and then moved up and then actually went backwards and he rocked me. And from that point on for years afterwards, every time I stepped up and like jumped up in the pocket and then got back out of the pocket, I always peeked over my back shoulder and Tom and my quarterback coach and Tom, we'd laugh about the Tomba rule. Anytime you step up and then move back, you worry about Tomba drilling you in the back.

Well, the last major Hail Mary I tried to throw was in the Giants, right, when I broke my thumb. And so I was trying to get to a spot to throw it, and there was a split second last night on that last play of the half where I thought I was going to get to a spot to be able to throw it because you know it's like a 55 yard 60 yard throw which even that condition i could you know do pretty easily but i still needed just the space to get it off and there was like a split second where i was like if i get to this spot i'll probably get it off but i might get absolutely clocked because i have no idea what's

behind me so i got to that spot and then just tried to move a little bit to the left. Got tripped up, had a couple laughs with Greg Gaines and Leonard Floyd and tried to catch my breath for the 12 minutes. I heard a little father time conversation there five years ago. I might get that off. I thought you looked good, honestly, and I thought you were moving well. I thought it was good. You need not say that. You're not old dude you still got it fucking nothing 55 60

yards really easy he just said no big deal just flick of the wrist how you you hey i saw a ball last night no laces is that normal yeah i also threw a sidewinder a helicopter ball out to jonesy i don't know how he caught it we're going in the red zone and the ball got snapped to me and it just said i don't know if josh's hand was wet or if the ball didn't get wiped off but it got to me i didn't have laces i was trying to throw out in the flat and it was like just totally slick and i threw this absolutely sidewinder helicopter out to him and you know classic jonesy just like you know easy catch yards. I think it had wobble to it. But do you – because this was – if we can get that – you remember that, Fox, you were talking about it beforehand.

It was the Dobbs. It was Dobbs' first like little out or whatever. And you had time from the side – go back to the beginning of that. From the side angle, from like the full play, you had time to adjust that if you wanted to. You just apparently did not. You don't care? Is that a thing?

You just don't – it's all about your grip. It doesn't matter where the ball is? Yeah, you know, on that play, and that's cool. I didn't actually know that. But on that play, we had a little three-man combination to the right side. We had motion. And a lot of times on that play, the back's coming across, so he's not a part of the three-man side. But a lot of times on that play, you're's coming across, so he's not a part of the three-man side.

But a lot of times in that play, you kind of just catch it and try to get the ball out. Because if you can run it back, we have – well, you're showing Dobbers here. That's a really nice shot. But you've got Christian running down the sidelines. You've got Joe in the flat, and Allen was snapping up at five yards. So you're trying to really get the ball out quickly. And Dobbers is actually number four in the progression on the backside.

So I probably just was thinking, oh, this ball is going to the flat right away, so I'm going to catch it and get the ball out as quick as possible. And then sometimes, you know, that doesn't happen. You've got to come back and find a way to throw an accurate ball without the laces. But that's why, you know, a lot of the pre-practice work that I do is all this. Like I never throw the ball with the laces but that's why you know a lot of the pre-practice work that i do is all this i can never throw the ball with the laces and in pre-practice and there's plays you know reps during practice and in drill work that you do this stuff because you never know what's going

to come up in the game and um that's a cool clip because you guys got that that's awesome yeah we're thankful for nfl film setting it over and the angle is perfect because it's literally right down there and as soon as i saw it we're watching all the clips that we have every single morning foxy brings it over and we watch through it and I just see the laces just like staring and I remember back in the day there was a couple like Nate Davis I think of Ball State whenever he was making a transition in the NFL it was literally the only conversation this guy doesn't

throw with the laces this guy doesn't throw with the laces and then I see the best thrower of a football of all time having time not using laces and I'm like how come that's ever I didn't know I'd never known that about you so you're telling me you no look and no lace oh yeah oh man i just found that out i didn't know you could throw a ball pretty good i thought what only stafford did that no no huh yeah crazy you threw some fucking darts last night dude 16 degrees i think it's only

going to get colder as we go did you feel it did it feel a little uh did it feel without but without the wind the cold is pretty manageable until it gets to about zero uh and then it gets uh a little more miserable but the wind was a non-factor for the most part i mean it was probably blowing like when it's not in fact i mean it's below 15 like 15 and above it's a blowing like when it's a non-factor, I mean, it's below 15, like 15 and above. It's a factor. Anything below 15 is a non-factor ultimately, especially at Lambeau. Uh, so it was, it wasn't bad at all. Uh, you know, there's coming out for the, like the first time he come out, like I was asking some of the guys, like how they deal with the cold, some of the defensive guys that don't wear sleeves and stuff. And they basically said what I've always felt, you know, the first, the warm-ups, it's cold.

And then once you get into the game, you know, the adrenaline starts going, you start getting a little bit of a sweat, kind of. You know, it's not bad. That's good. You look great. What about your, how did your production mean to go with Joe and Troy? They talked pretty glowingly about you on the broadcast,

like how they enjoyed kind of conversing with you. You mean talking? Why did you say conversing? Because they said it was good back and forth. They enjoyed their time. I love Joe and Troy. We've had a ton of production meetings over the years, them being the Fox One crew,

and us obviously having sustained success. You're going to get that crew with those two and Aaron Andrews for so many years. I always loved them. Now, you know, pre-COVID was better because those are fun in-person meetings. And I've been fortunate enough to have some amazing production meetings with some of the all-time greats. Everybody from, you know, the late, great John Madden to Al Michaels and Mike Tirico, two of the best play-by-play guys. Joe Buck, you know, Jim Nance, obviously,

and then all the other, you know, the color guys, everybody from Collinsworth and Romo to Troy Aikman and on down. It's been really fun. I really look forward to those conversations. And my favorites, and I've told, you know, I've told Joe and Troy this before, but NEA, I mean, that's kind of my all-time favorite crew you know mostly because we always work together but second there there be there's a trust that grows you know with the information that's shared in there

because some of it is to help them do their job better and some of it is just hey we're friends you know and here and here's what's going on, and we're going to talk, and you might be able to use some of this in a roundabout way, but we're going to talk like friends do. And a lot of times that's what it turned into, just like, you know, friends having a conversation about life and a little bit about football and every other topic in between. And that group will always be really special to me you know joe buck troy aikman and aaron andrews yeah they were a great crew for a long time and obviously joe and

troy get signed to espn have you tried to eat beer yet troy aikman's beer it looks delicious oh yeah no i haven't uh but i have uh uh an office said it last week and i but i have turned the sound back on on espn because those guys nice Nice. That's a big deal. Me too. Yeah. Those guys and Lisa and the crew do a really nice job. All right. Well, I'm happy to hear that. Last question before we get to the book club. I feel like there isn't a better person.

There's a great one today, too. There's a great one today. I feel like with everything we've been talking about today, this is going to bring it all back. Okay. Well, this might add to it then because i don't know if there's a better human to ask this question to about a subject that took place in the early hours of last night in wisconsin jfk we found out about that obviously through

the twitter files i feel like we'll continue to learn more and more and more and more and more and more. There was an unidentified aerial phenomenon seen by multiple different parties in multiple different locations in Wisconsin last night. Aaron Rodgers, were you heading back to your home planet after a big-time Monday night football win? Did you see this? What are your thoughts? And obviously, that would be 10 000 g's that that one

thing would be pulling from one side to the other so we maybe maybe that's just drones is what people are going to say those are if somebody has the capability have drones that powerful we need to be scared to death of whatever country has that which is what people have been saying like oh that's just other countries tech or whatever it's like well if they have we don't have that fuck i know we don't have that over why are they over wisconsin then you know that other people's tech over over our beautiful state come on what are your thoughts on that i love that uh it's definitely ufos you know i think people get so weird out when you say ufos like oh you're an alien it's like no it's an unidentified flying object right that's what it stands for right the acronym so yes that those are ufos for sure i was the other night i was

driving back it was late at night yes and i saw some crazy shit in the sky and i was like oh yes but it turned out to be like some like weird flashing lights that were reflecting off of something but it kind of tripped me up such a shame but that i wish i had seen that because that's awesome yeah and there was multiple people that reported it i guess police fire and um aimed i think howard and howard howard's not too far like there was no where was that at that wasn't howard said howard one of them said it was like sighting in howard yeah the l1 going to r2 yes hey bob getting formation that's a real if that's another country's thing okay which will probably be said great question why they're in wisconsin but also do we have

something that can do that because oh that's that's what they took yeah tom cruise is piloting that vessel i don't know what you're talking about that's tc i mean tom cruise is definitely leading our resistance you know if it's independence day right yeah and we got these scraps that show up tc you know we're getting tom's either he's playing the bill pullman role with giving us that great speech or he's you know leading the leading the attack much like the president did in that movie as well do you think okay do you think these particular set of aliens, before we go home, God do Lambo on Monday night, right?

Come on. Do you think that's it? Why are they in Wisconsin? Probably. Anyways, hey. Listen, you walk around Wisconsin for long enough, you realize there's a lot of aliens here. Yeah, there's a chance.

Every one of them are coming in town every single weekend. You guys have a game. Joe and Troy talked about how Lambeau has done it right. You know how the museum's there. There's things to do. It's not like it didn't get too commercially. It's kind of kept its sacred, hollowed grounds. So every time people travel to Lambeau,

it's nice to hear that again, you know, and reinforce it that it still got in 2022 when it could certainly have sold out and went astray. What a place. Hope the aliens had a good time. Yeah, they probably did. Safe travels. Have you guys had a good time? Probably still downstairs in his house.

Safe travels. All right. Safe travels. Poor gals. They stay in your basement? Yeah, you're right. Thank you. Let's please not.

Okay. Don't sign it, Jander. Don't assume. I don't know if greys have genitalia, so I don't want to put any. How do they reproduce? Well, we don't know. Signs. They're fingies?

Yeah, they could fingy like Harrison Phillips. I'm sure they're fingies. Oh, yeah, watch out, Matt Ryan. I'm sure there are some planets that have hammers. Maybe, like Dave, there's a different orifice that's involved. Belly button, maybe. Yeah, you're right. Belly buttons.

That's gross. There's a lot of things that could be true. I do remember when Katy Perry told us not to call them aliens. Do you remember that? Demi Lovato. Demi Lovato. They don't assume their pronouns. I know it wasn't Katy Perry because she malfunctioned the one time.

Can't talk about that. We never know who's watching. I do believe her eyelashes glue, you know, potentially. Did seem to be a little bit of a... She was tired. She was saying she was crushing it. Hey guys, nothing to see there.

Nothing to see. Let's move along. There was an article about that too. First thing you did. Gas him an article about that, too. There was an article about that about you, too. First thing you did. Gas him up. Just gas him up. Not doing it. Come on.

Anyways, I appreciate the fact that you have an open mind and you're not a robot. And I enjoy the fact that you get judged for that every single day. I believe the good thing about this country is being able to believe in whatever. And those who believe in something that isn't that aliens exist, I would like you to watch that video from Wisconsin and just tell me, okay, those are drones from another country. Sweet. Next thought, are we fucked if other countries can do that and we can't? Something to think about. Let's just hope whoever's in control of those.

Very nice people. Let's just assume they have all the best intentions in mind. That's why they created something that has 10,000 Gs in nobody else's because they wanted good things to happen. So let's just continue living in a world where nothing makes sense, but you can believe whatever you want and whatever makes you happy, you keep moving into.

And I hope the aliens pop over here to Indiana one night. I look up, I let the dogs out. Suck you. Suck you right up into that craft. Who let the dogs out? Probes. Probes everywhere. Who? Who? Who? Who? I'm not going to get sucked up. You let the dogs out? Probes. Probes everywhere. Who? Who? Who?

I'm not going to get sucked up. Okay? Not five hours. You've seen the movie? You've seen the movie? Mars Attacks? What's it called? The one that they're talking about the guy whose story happened in the 90s. Bob Lazar?

He got sucked up in the probe. No, not Bob. Just like A.J. Hawk doesn't get sucked up on a play action pass. Yep. I'm not getting sucked up by any alien. But I would like to talk to him. I'd like to extend my hand. I could see you getting sucked up by an alien. Yeah, I got a big head. I guess big target.

You'd be too nice. What's up, guys? What's up, guys? And all of a sudden I'm getting sucked up. Yep. Yeah. I wonder how that'll go. Alright. Time for the book club. Ladies and gentlemen, we started something last year that made the world a better place. We made the world a smarter place. We put a spotlight on reading that nobody else was doing at the time. Ladies and gentlemen, there's the Oprah book club.

There's the Ellen DeGeneres book club. I don't know if it's still around or not. And then there's the Aaron Rodgers book club. Last season was such a smashing success, we ran it back again. The first book of the Aaron Rogers Book Club 2.0 was The Mastery of Love, and we ran through all the greats. 1984, The Art of Contemplation,

How to Change Your Mind, Healing, which was a good breathing book. The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross, Love Wins, Keanu Reeves' coloring book, obviously for the doofuses like myself, Connor, Ty, Diggs, and you. Into the Wild, Recovery, Freedom from Our Addictions with Russell Brand.

And then The Missing Element by Deborah Silverman last week in the next book. The Aaron Rodgers Book Club 2.0 is The Coronation by Charles Eisenstein. Ooh! E equals M. This subtitle here.

Essays from the COVID moment. Oh! What's it about? Charles is a graduate of Yale. He wrote another book called The More Beautiful World Our Hearts Know Is Possible.

Fantastic book. Did Faust do the prologue? What. Did Faust do the prologue? Did Faust do the prologue? I just want to give you a little background on it. It's a bunch of essays that he wrote between 2020 and 2022. He just published it. He is a buddy of mine and a fascinating brilliant, brilliant human being. And I think anybody with an open mind

who can look at the last couple of years from an objective point of view. Yeah, of course. And an open mind would enjoy some of the wisdom in his essays here. Hell yeah. A lot of people do that. A lot of people do that. A lot of people do that.

A lot of people have a very open mind. To talk about the denominator? Listen, but those of you who are completely obedient and subservient and do not have a mind that is able to function without being focused.

I don't think this book is for you. I don't think it's focused for you. But if you have a mind that's open to taking in information and learning, then you might enjoy Reincarnation. If you want something that's maybe not as COVID-driven, then I would say, and you still want to learn about my friend Charles Eisenstein, I would read The More Beautiful World Our Hearts Know As Possible as possible which is a fascinating book that would make you feel good i'm happy to hear like when 1984 was in the book club sure no conversations about that nope i'm happy to hear that this book

club is driving real combos though yeah mention's gonna heat up here for the next couple hours on this whole thing but i do listen hey hey pat i'm gonna cut you out but what's more fun than going to a party right holiday party you know and getting into the nitty-gritty you know talking politics talking covid talking religion you know what are these topics that really you know you know to get a fire up grandma or fire up that crazy uncle you got, whatever it might be. These are the kind of books, you know, that can lead to, you know, better conversations. We're not going to have those crazy. My MVP just hit 101, painted the black. Real shit.

Okay. All right. I hope everybody gets a chance to read that or the heart grows fonder. What's the other one from Mr. Eyes? Nailed it. The more beautiful world our hearts know is possible. Hell yeah. There it is.

Or if you don't want that, you want to read about essays from a philosopher during COVID, read The Coronation. Hell yeah. Great book club, honestly. Driving conversation. Big conversation. We appreciate it. A big Merry Christmas to you, Pat.

To all the boys and all your significant others. And especially to Laura Hawk and the kids. Especially that one kid named after the singer from Pearl Jam. I really like that one. Hell yeah. Love you, Eddie. Hey, we appreciate you. Merry Christmas to you too, pal.

Love you, Eddie. We appreciate you, man. It's better, I believe. But do love Eddie. Love Eddie too. Shout out to both. Love you, Eddie. Ladies and gentlemen, Aaron Rodgers.

Thank you, pal. Yeah! Woo! You know what else is still possible? We can somehow get smarter. Mm-hmm. What? A lot of room for growth in that department.

And today, we're going to get smarter in the trenches. Hell yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, it is time for the 16th installment, 15th installment, of the big boys being appreciated for their big plays and their big bumps. It's time to go in the trenches with 12-year NFL veteran offensive lineman and Super Bowl champion, A.Q. Shipley. A.Q.

Let's go. That a baby A.Q. Let's go, let's go, let's go. We got some good ones this week. We got some new ones. Yeah. But we're always going to start with these guys, huh? This is the team, huh?

This is the team. And I'm telling you, this is as well-blocked of a run play as you're going to see with these guys, huh? This is the team, huh? This is the team. And I'm telling you, this is as well-blocked of a run play as you're going to see all year. It's awesome. We're going to start literally from left to right. Let's first start with Juszczyk. You may think he gets bodied here by digs coming off the edge, but he doesn't. This is exactly what you want a fullback to do.

He's downhill. He's inside out. You keep the guy wide. So we'll start with him. Perfect. Then we get as good of a run block by a tight end, right? We hate that matchup. Tight end on D end, right? 89 on Bruce Irvin, right?

Watch the footwork. His footwork will mirror an offensive lineman. He does such a good job. Most tight ends, when they're asked to block, their feet cross over. He's boom, boom, boom. He's just blocking. Look at that. Look at that.

He's at 2.2 AQ. Is there a reason he's at 2.0? Just because he came in motion. So, I mean, just keeping one guy off the ball, keep the receiver, whatever. So, there it is. Then, Trent Williams, I'm just going to say this again, one of one. Most people that come off the ball and this guy disappears,

when I say disappear, slants, to be able to put the foot in the ground and get back up on this linebacker 99 of lime in this league can't do it now watch trent gets the block right off his ass and then here's the best part on the back side let's rewind this just a little bit further keep going keep going keep going keep going keep going check this out. He's got him, he's got him. But when they run a T-E, the ability for him to not sell out, they both double hinge, work back out, and be able to pass this off. Watch McGlinchey on the backside.

Climb right now. Doesn't chase his guy. Stays inside out. Perfect pull block. And you get the rookie, Mason. He wants to score. One-on-one. He's got to beat one, right? Got to beat one. He wants to score one-on-one he's got to beat one right

he wants to score first but he's doing a smart play he doesn't score because he knows the situation you see that he made a good smart move by the rookie smart smart guy any player hey team guy hey this guy right here yeah uh. Not only is he incredible at what he does, you said best in the game, right? Unbelievable. He's the best tackle of this decade, maybe of his era. And right now he's the best. I mean, you might be able to put him in the best football player in the National Football League.

So, you know, when they're coming out of the tunnel, Debo and him up in the front with the thing, when you don't see when they get down to the bottom and the camera cuts away, Trent's in the front of that entire team. I don't want to say orchestrating, but like doing – and everybody's alongside of him. Seems like he is the perfect teammate as well. Like it seems like everybody fucking loves him.

He just so happens to be your best player and a dog as well. What a perfect guy to have on your team, especially if you're trying to make a championship run. Absolutely. He's the guy that makes this whole thing go. They've got a tough test this week. They're playing against arguably the best interior defensive line in the league with Washington, but you've got to feel good about what these guys are doing

up front leading into the playoffs. Hell, yeah. Sucks that he tipped it, though. Yeah, he just keeps tipping those plays and just somehow keeps fucking people up. It's wild. Somehow. Somehow. Somehow, someway.

Pat, we talked about this pre-show. Hey, this is unbelievable. Wait till we see this. I'm going to put people up. Stop's wild. Somehow. Somehow. Somehow, someway. Pat, we talked about this pre-show. Hey, this is unbelievable. Wait till we see this. I'm going to put people. Hold up. Let's go back. Let's go back. Let's go back.

Sorry about it. You're good. You're good. Let's watch him. Let's watch him. Let's watch him. Let's watch him. Let's watch him.

We send Justin Jefferson, best receiver in football, in motion. Everybody is going to go with him. Look at that. Oh, and we are faking it and giving the pitch back out. We used to call this flip at nine. It's like a fake jet motion flip opposite. Look at that. Everybody goes with Justin Jefferson.

Everybody else, you don't even really have to worry about just kind of getting the way here. But the two key blocks on this, when we get the toss out in front, Cleveland, phenomenal job getting up on franklin getting front side and just driving to watch derisaw throw gilmore into the bleachers derisaw you hate that guy derisaw is an absolute monster top five tackle in the league already how come you never talk about yeah why don't you never get didn't give the one i mean he's only been on this segment 12 out of the 15 fucking weeks the guy you didn't give the wide out? He's only been on this segment 12 out of the 15 fucking weeks.

You didn't give the wide out any love down here. KJ Osborne and Thielen. Great, great, great down block by Thielen there. Then you also get Osborne inside to allow the crack toss. Hunting Gawkway? Yeah. This is big time. Everybody relax.

It's good leverage by Kevin O'Connell in this running game. That's right. Thank you. I have a quick question for you. If we run back to the beginning, Pat. Yes, sir. Look at 17. He has – so he's going to be, you know, cracking down here.

Yep. He has outside foot up, which is probably different than normal. Would that tip you? You think he only does that if he's blocking down here? That's a great point, AJ. I didn't even notice that. That's a great, great point. Is that something you guys look at? AJ, is that something you guys You think he only does that if he's blocking down here? That's a great point, AJ. I didn't even notice that. That's a great, great point. Is that something you guys look at, AJ?

Is that something you guys look at? Absolutely. Of course you look at that, especially if you're that D end. I want to know as well. But they could be messing with you, too. You might switch it off. Could be. But if you do have that inside foot, you're right,

because then you've got to go here to here. You're probably stepping under. It's too hard to get that crack toss. That's a great, great point. That's something only AJ Hawk would notice, though. That's why he's the all-time winning tackle. That's a great key read right there. He can't play cover two defense. That's something only A.J. Hawk would notice, though. That's why he's the all-time winning tackle. That's a great key read right there. He can't play cover two defense.

Bro, this is crazy. I wish. I love cover two. I'd be great to play that. But you're right. Look at the influence that Jefferson has. It's unbelievable. How many people because, listen, you don't need all that. Literally, there's only one tight end orc and two of these guys can handle this very efficiently

and they get five fucking people running with them jesus like i said derisaw out in space look at that look how athletic that is he can move it's unbelievable he's really good yeah you can dunk a basketball and i'm not even kidding you like if you watch this game and actually just watch derisaw break it down he had three blocks like that where he puts people down he He does a jump set fake kind of thing that I've only ever seen Jason Peters, Taron Armstead, and Trent Williams do. What's the fucking – what do we have with those three people? Three of the best in the game, right?

All famous. He does like a fake jump set to throw off timing and gets back on Ngakwe. It's unbelievable. I mean, he's playing at a super high level. We'll keep talking up Christian Derrissaw. We good? Yeah, all right. All right.

I mean, 67's just lounging up there, too. Nobody to block. Hey, this is – Where's the defense at? We get it. We get it. Let's move along. Just wondering.

All right, so we could have put up the game winner in overtime. We could have put up a bunch of other plays. The reason I wanted to put this one is because what do we like to talk about on here wrinkles wrinkles creative so here's what this play is meant to be pre-snap before we get this thing going it's literally just your standard inside zone single back week that we've seen over and over again he blocks out on him they work some form of a single up to 48. They work a little slip block on the backside up to Kirksey. And then we're two for two on the backside. But here's what we do. We run the same exact play, except we switch a little responsibility.

We block Trey Smith down here. We call that cutting the defense. Now you get clear lanes that you want to run through. We're cutting here. We're going to loop around Creed Humphrey, one of the best centers in the game. I think he's the leading Pro Bowl getter for center. Even Kelsey, yeah. Okay, so he goes around. He's got him. But check what we're going to do. This is what you've got to love.

This is why you call this poetry in motion with everybody up front. He is taught to run off the fucking ball. Wiley, boom, let's run off the ball in this DN. If he slants inside, now we leave him for the center, exchange responsibility again. So we just exchanged three responsibilities from what

it was supposed to be pre-snap, and watch this just turn into poetry in motion. We get a big gaping hole. Look at that. Pacheco. I mean, how good is that? How good is that?

Really good. Pretty damn good. Boom. Bang. And then he runs through contact. You've got to love seeing that out of a young running back. Yeah, go down sometimes, though. Nah, you just run through it.

Well, be careful. Fumble. Yeah, because McKinnon's behind you. And he's playing really, really good. We all love you, Pacheco. So let's keep seeing you out there. Come on. Great point. McKinnon is playing great's keep seeing you out there. Come on. Great point.

McKinnon is playing great football. But you've got to love this. They just cut the defense right now and create the hole. If he would have just run the regular zone concept, this could wash, this could wash. You don't know if you've got this same hole. But by cutting the defense right now, boom, it's cut. And then Humphrey does a phenomenal job adjusting.

And I think what he's doing here everybody thinks oh he might be just throwing his head down nope he's trying to get his head front side and watch him wheel on it right there wow great really good shit he almost is like a can opener but on the flip side and then gets good leverage on the inside exactly better than the band little jump turn little wheel on it oh he's pulling a wheel on it. Oh, he's putting a little wheel on it. There it is. And that's a creative gadget. Again, I love that. I love when they take one responsibility and switch it and it changes the whole play.

AJ, you're fucked here, pal. Yeah, AQ, how often do they, well also, the center snapping left hand, it always looks weird to me. Is that awkward for a quarterback? It certainly looks it. I mean, I can't get used to it either, but he was coming out i was like oh that's weird as shit but i mean he's obviously become one of the better centers yeah this guy's does this happen a lot though aq where you could like they're almost they shift their responsibility on the run depending on

what the defense is doing like with their leverage so a lot of a lot of coaches are very hesitant to do this because this dn can really blow up this play If he doesn't go as flat, right, if it's just one stepping up the field, he probably blows up this play. So a lot of times you tell this guy to stick and stay, and the center's got to react. But then what that does is what? Now you're fucking telling the tackle to play hesitant. You're telling the tackle to basically kind of –

and then you cut the hole off already because now he's got to try and play inside out because he's got to face the two-way go. So it's a reactionary responsibility. It is. That's a lot of trust in the players. Which is so much harder than it looks. Like how AQ is drawing up here. Okay, yeah, they just take it.

Okay, if this guy comes here, I've got to keep wheeling around. No, like that's really hard to do. Humphrey getting his head across there is absurd. It's absurd. Here's real time. Oh, shit. All right. Got this guy.

Let me get around him. Like if Humphrey doesn't get his head across. That's Hughes too, right? Great athlete. That's Jerry Hughes? Yep. Great athlete. All right. Got this guy. Let me get him around. Like if Humphrey doesn't get his head across. That's Hughes, too, right? Great athlete. That's Jerry Hughes? Yep. Great athlete. Veteran.

Great athlete. Very successful. So being able to flip around them like that on the fly. Yeah. And he got a face mask, I think. Creed. Really, really good stuff by them. And look, it's December football.

This team is showing and proving what matters when it comes to December, January, February. You've got to be able to run the football. So they make an emphasis on this moving forward. Speaking of, the brand new Lions. Let's go. We have not shown a ton of these plays. This is the end of the first half. So again, not a crazy meaningful play.

It just goes to show what Detroit is doing and making an emphasis. This is in a two minute drill at the end of the half. And how are we going to get the most effective play going right here? What do we do? We got one, two, three, four, five, six. Ideal box for running the football. I don't know if they check to this because they like the box, but this is what you want to run. Every single sub run you have in the game plan is good versus a six box, what we call. We get two high safeties. Basically, on the trap, the two front side guys are going to leave this guy unblocked for the guard pulling and trapping, and they are responsible for the two linebackers. So he goes to the backside linebacker. So he goes to the backside linebacker.

He goes to the frontside linebacker. If for some fucking reason he was over here, he was over here, the safety was down weak, he would have a two-way go. Sift responsibility, him to him, most dangerous threat. But because it's a six box, we got people for people. Boom. Trap. 63.

Let him bluff him. Boom. Bluff him. Boom. Trap! Tight end just keeps this guy wide. And watch this hole. Oh, you see what's happening. See the little bluff? Boom! He's around. Here comes Penny. Boom! There it is. That's all you gotta do. Uh-oh.

Then you get the big boys up on the second level. Boom. Boom. See ya. Boom. Boom. Boom. Spin move. You give Swift a little hole to run through where he doesn't have any indecision.

Yep. Whoa. My man gets downhill and can fucking roll. What's that about? What are you talking about? He can get side to side sometimes. Lions fans don't like it. You're talking about Philly, right?

That's what they call him? Yeah. He was from Georgia. No, because he's from Philly. Played in Georgia. Certainly something happened. Played down in Georgia. They loved him down there.

We saw him at the SEC championship game. They would literally just say, give the ball to Philly. Give the ball to Philly. I'm like, who the fuck is Philly? Running back from Philly. Better than everybody on the field right now. Well, Joe Burrow was on the other side and Jamar Chase. So I don't know if he's better than everybody,

but he was a fucking great player then. Seems to be a great player for the Lions too, right? You guys just don't like him because he dances too much? I love him. I think he's one of those guys that when he has the ball, he does things that other guys can't do. And then you've got Jamal Williams on the other side who's kind of the power back. So I think it's actually perfect.

But some Lions fans think he goes a little side to side too much. He's an East-West guy. Yes. I was told he's their best player. But he's awesome. I love him. The group up front in Detroit, though? They're the game-changer, AQ, 100%.

This only happens this year because of those guys. That's right, Foxy. They are making this whole operation go. It's the only reason Goff has been good. I really, genuinely believe that because we've got a run game, and he's protected. When he's not protected, he's not a good quarterback. Who's their offensive line? Yeah, who's their offensive line? I'm sorry quarterback is right is there offensive line yeah who's wrong i'm sorry but who is their

offensive line coach hank fraley oh yeah longtime center in the nfl robert morris college moon township pennsylvania bobby wow i bet you like joe dinardo i'm like you undrafted free agent to pittsburgh pittsburgh lets him go at the end of the preseason goes to philadelphia starts for donovan mcnabb for about nine or ten years as Philadelphia's center. Now offensive line coach for the Detroit Lions. And they're not the Detroit Lions. They're the brand new Lions. Because his group is performing.

Penny's a dog, huh? Penny's a dog. Frank Ragnow, center. Awesome. I mean, they got it. Decker. Decker. Stud.

I mean, they got some dudes up front. Who can't apparently think Skip is an unbelievable swing right now. A plug and play guy. You hate him. I love him. I love him. Game ball early in the year. They're big. Oh yeah, they're big. Their center's huge.

Their center's like, I think Frank Ragnow, look him up. I am on it. He played with a broken freaking neck last year. Remember that? He had the throat deal, right? Broken throat, yeah. Excuse me. AJ, they're big dudes. That's a big group.

6'5", 320. That's a lot of first-rounders on that line. Yep. That's how you build. Big dudes that can move. They all move like they – you shouldn't be able to move like O-linemen can move in the NFL. It's getting crazier and crazier, I think. That's what I said earlier.

It's no longer the fat-sos, you know? Yeah. You see McGlinchey? AQ, have you ever seen McGlinchey in person? Oh, he's huge. I thought he was a basketball player. I saw him out in Tahoe, and I'm like, who is this giant monster that is lean and shredded?

It was McGlinchey. I'm like, geez. They're all lean and shredded almost. I saw Pugh out there. We were golfing in Arizona with AQ. This dude walked over to us, and he was just strapped. Looked like a linebacker or whatever. I'm like, do you weigh 215 pounds?

270 right now or whatever. It's like, oh, so you'll just add. Yeah, I'll just put on like 15 pounds or whatever. And he's just like fucking yoked. He's like a tight end. This is what offensive linemen are now. Offensive linemen are like big bodies who are just absolutely strapped. You've got to be able to counteract. Again, we talked about it. It's cyclical, and we're going to start seeing probably

the big bodies sooner than later, but the Aaron Donalds, the J.J. Watts, that world that changed the defensive line has changed the way offensive linemen are, too. You've got to be able to move with them. And that's why Detroit got an old school, man. These are some big bodies, man. I'm just going to fucking move them. People movers. Yeah, man. That's school, man. These are some big bodies, man. I'm just going to fucking move them. People movers. Yeah, man. That's skill, man. Hey, I want you to pause this mid-spin. We saw this, you know, whenever Saquon gets through the hole.

Classic duo play. I just want to point this out. Hold on, hold on. Duo, duo. Let's do it. Guard, tackle. Duo versus inside zone, AQ. I see that's going on the internet.

No, duo is gap scheme. Check this out. Duo gap scheme. We out duo gap scheme we get two double teams that's the reason why it's called duo double team double team double team here to here double team here to here man man and then we just get him downhill i just want to point this out they got the ball back i think the score was 17 to 12 one possession game in the fourth quarter six minutes to go. They ran three run plays from their own side of the field.

I think they were at their own 20. Three carries, 41 yards. Ran the same exact fucking play three times in a row to him. 10, 12, 20, whatever the hell it was. Against this group. Against this group, who's an absolute stud, Jonathan Allen, absolute stud pain. And watch them get movement here, movement here, and watch this dude get downhill like a rolling ball butcher nuts check it out again exchanging responsibilities

on the run gotta love that everything looks great on paper until they run a fucking blitz on the weak side how do you pick it up you're three for three look at this shit dude's in midair Keep it going Pause it again He stutters after that I mean that's old Saquon That's special isn't it I think this is new Saquon I think this is like the best Saquon Watch the end though doesn't he hit him with a little stutter after the spin Yeah a little stutter and then like kind of pull back

Right there That feels so good Think about how cool he felt whenever he hit him with that left whoop yeah after a freak spin so much fun i bet i bet that's so much fun to do against professional athlete i tried it one time i got hit so hard my one knee bruised my thigh on the inside but think about how cool that would have been just to hit a spin move on somebody be like oh shit that was a professional athlete. You do that in backyard football or on the street or something to somebody, feels good.

Pick up basketball, feels good. Couldn't even imagine what it would feel like on prime time against an NFL guy. And then after that, you have to wear it without hitting him. Oh, wait, here's a guy. Whoop! Little Hezzy right here. Whoop! Whoop!

That was like a shady. Yeah. That was like a shady type cut right there. Go back to the beginning real quick. I just want to point out that little switch off on the backside. Same thing, right? First of all, we've got to give love to these guys, too. First round pick a year ago, Andrew Thomas.

First round pick this year, Evan Neal. Look at this. Now watch this. They run the will over the top on the backside. We slant the backside in. This was supposed to be a scoop to there, but check it out. Eyes are in the right place. You see that. He sees that to that. Boom. Now we can pass this off. This was supposed to be a scoop to there, but check it out. Eyes are in the right place. You see that.

He sees that to that. Boom. Now we can pass this off. Left guard goes to here. Feliciano sticks and stays. 78, Andrew Thomas wheels back on the wheel. It's really good shit, man. When you see stuff on the run like that, that's well-coached teams up front.

And smart. Look at the O-line. Look at the O-line. Jack, too, as they finish that whole play. Feliciano. I fucking love O-line. Jack, too. As they finish that whole play. Felicia. I fucking love this team. Everybody is. Yeah.

Saquon having the option to do that type of spin move and then run a dude over if he really wants to is ridiculous. Yeah, dude. Look at all these dudes, AJ. So excited. Fun fact, they also don't have one wide receiver. Actually, Darius. 73, picking them up.

Let's go. Felicia on a going banana. 78, flexing. Let's go. Felicia on a going banana. 78 flexing. Let's go. I mean, that's a big deal. Young dudes, too. Think about what Bill Belichick said. Remember what Bill Belichick said whenever people celebrate?

He showed a touchdown or something. Nobody celebrated. He said, what do you think this is telling the other team? What, that we're not having fun, that we're not in this? And then he showed everybody celebrating. He's like, what do you think this is telling the other team about who they're playing? Imagine seeing that fucking offensive line that just won three straight same plays, 10, 12, 20, whatever it is,

and then immediately afterwards they're going to, look at 70 fucking eight, dude. Let's fucking go. How awesome is that? Young guys. This is a group that had to get the run game going again, and they did against a very good front. That's fucking sweet.

I'm a big fan of that. Branovich, you should be pretty pumped up over there in G-Man land, especially with how cool Dayball looks with that hoodie. And the goatee. Oh, man. Yeah. Boom. Is that what you're dressing up like for Halloween forever?

Should I just be him? I should be him every day. I should be Dayball every day? A couple others, too. I love it. I love it. Whoa. NASCAR guy.

That's funny. Hey, we saw this earlier, huh? The NASCAR guy? NFL people, too. Brandon Scherf. Former NFL people. One former one. Yeah, let's go.

Bald white with goatee. Yeah, what have you been up to lately? Bald white with goatee. Were you in Mexico? I certainly was not in Mexico. Are you sure? Are you in Mexico? I certainly was not in Mexico. Are you sure? Are you sure? It looks just like Alvar.

Glad I didn't get mixed up. Are you sure? Nope, not me. Might be. Yeah, that's awesome. Clearly something. Brandon Scherf having an all-pro type season. We saw this earlier.

We get a little screen. We get Trevor Lawrence playing great football. Drops back, makes it look like a pass. Boom. We hit the screen. We get Scherf out in space. He's got Curse lined up. Eyes are there.

Uh-oh. Target acquired. Curse is coming downhill. Oh, no. Tries to shake him. Oh, no. You couldn't shake him. Oh, no. You couldn't do it. Wait for it.

Boom. How bad did that hurt? He took care of the blocker, though. He took care of the blocker so his buddy could make the tackle. Yeah, he forced him back inside. Yeah. Yeah. If that's what you guys teach on the defensive side of the ball,

congratulations, because he just got fucking melee. Boom. Yeah, he did. Yeah, he did. Yeah, he did. Hey, is this one? This one's going to be real good, too. Check this out. The minute he loops out, we tell that guard, put the brakes on, go back, and find some ribs.

Because if he was going to rush the quarterback, he would be running there or there. But the minute he loops out, you know it's a fire zone. What's a fire zone? When you get everybody kind of slanting there and the pressure from the other side. So here he goes. He puts it here. He's going to drop.

We get that. We get the pressure there. He's coming around on the T.E. Who, by the way, would have gotten home had he not come back. Now just let this thing run. He's defenseless. He's defenseless. He can't hit him there.

I agree. Stop looking. AJ, this one's tough. Oh! My God! Good God. I mean, how good is that? There ain't nothing nine can do, pal.

Nothing. There's nothing you can do. You lined him up from a mile away. Oh, my. He didn't come in. Bro, look at nine's looking this way right now. Oh, yeah. He thinks he just beat the guard.

Boom. I'm getting home. Joe Burrow. Oh, I got him. Boom. Wow. Because he's getting home if he doesn't come back there. Leading with the crowd.

Oh, wow. Jeez. Is that Kappa? Is that revenge from former Buckeyes? No, Kappa's on the right side. Okay. Kind of coming back. That's Cordell Volson, I think, second-year player.

North Dakota State. Look at that form. I mean, he's going shoulder tackle right now. This is John Cena flying through the air. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Playing for America, though. I mean, that is so good.

And it's funny because this happened, I think, in the third quarter. And earlier in the first and second quarter, the Buccaneers ran this pressure a couple times, and he kept coming back, and there was nothing there. There was nothing there. You could see he was waiting for this. He finally got one. Jeez, he just jogs it off.

Is one of the boys telling him, I saw what you just did there in between plays or not? I guarantee you my man Alex Kappa playing right guard who used to play for the Buccaneers for the last three, four years. Saw him and he goes, hey, great hit, bud. Great hit. And then we move on. Then we're back to our exaggerated misery. Exactly.

Offensive line. That's exactly right. Anon, what do we say? Anonymity. That a baby. Holy shit. Look at that word, boys. Nice. Penn State educated.

I can't believe that. Speaking of educated, we feel like we've gotten much smarter in the trenches this year. We can't thank you enough. Ladies and gentlemen, Super Bowl champion, host of In the Trenches with AQ Shepard. Alright, let's get the hell out of here. It's been a hell of a day, hasn't it? It was fun. Look how good you look right there, pal.

AQ looks awesome. He does. By the way, not a fatso. No. No. No. Not a fatso. How's fight camp?

Thanks to Jay, yeah. Yeah, how is fight camp? Fight camp has been on hold for a little bit. Oh, no, you quit. No, I didn't quit. You quit. I need to get back. I need to get back.

You quit the fight camp? Oh, you don't say. What's that all about, AJ? New Year's to me. The week before Thanksgiving. Did you get kicked out? No, the week before Thanksgiving was the last time I went. It's bad.

It's been tough. All these seasons. Hey, I haven't been on a treadmill in a while either. A lot of people are saying, hey, I've seen it on your IG story. You're on that treadmill every morning. Haven't seen one two, three weeks. Like, you got me. You're not supposed to.

I've been busy. From Thanksgiving to New Year's, you're not supposed to. It's impossible. I don't know how you've done this your entire life, AJ. Because right now, there's a platter of fucking treats out there that look so good. They are. So good. Who brought them?

Tone. Tony. Tone's dentist. Great job, Tone. Good for you, Tone. Who is it from? My wife. That spread that was put together right there?

Unbelievable. It looks good. I've just looked at it, closed my eyes, tasted it, and then walked away. So, ooh, that chocolate-covered pretzel right there. Oh, my God, it's so good. Don't worry, though, because those aren't making it through the rest of the day. Peppermint brownie, they'll be gone. This is what I'm saying.

Dude, there is an assortment of delicious-looking treats out there. Yes. And there's also an opportunity. an assortment of delicious looking treats out there. And there's also an opportunity. You know, I've kind of let myself, and I'm kind of a bitch-made cat for this, I've kind of let myself just buy into the time zone change being a reason.

Like I've come in like an hour later than I normally would have for a few of these days, 45 minutes later. It's because I can't fall asleep at night still because it's time zone. Like figure it out, dude. You know what I mean? Wake up. Get on the treadmill. You know? Be a human.

You don't have to give in to every single temptation and be a lazy fuck, right? Say all that. That sounds good. Late to you say tonight. I'm going to be up until 2 a.m. Yeah. And then that alarm's going to go off in the morning. I'm going to say, I was in Vegas.

Still got time zone change. I'm going to be lazy. I'm not going to get on there. Why does that happen, AJ? Why am I like that? Why can't I fucking just go? What do you mean? Everybody has that.

Everybody has that. Like, I think it should be easier. As you get older, it should be much easier to get up early. I think for some reason, like, I think it's harder for me as I get older. Maybe it's the time change. I have to make more effort for it, I would say, than I feel like to it's the kids yeah that's part of it that's what it is with me yeah kids come in at six in the morning i'm like get out of here i bet aq's kids have to have so much fun climbing all over him you're so oh yes oh yeah he is beloved by his babies over there and um

yeah i just gotta get better at that tomorrow the time change is killing me man i'm tired it's 6 30 in my garden is it bedtime it's so dark yeah and then for whatever reason my body won't fall asleep until it's like it's fucking with me right now still on pacific till tomorrow though it takes three days. There's aliens coming through Wisconsin. We're quite a conversation. Howard. I lived in Howard in Wisconsin for a little bit.

Oh, that's where the Ups live? So that's why it's high-quality video right now. Yeah, that makes sense. Any security cameras pick anything up over there, you think? Is there going to be more videos? Definitely. Weren't those videos old? Weren't those, like, even a couple years? No, it was last night.

That was last night? It was last night. It was actually last night? Yeah. Come on. You don't lie night? Yeah. Come on. Better lock your doors. Why? We're not getting sucked up.

We're just talking to him. You can get sucked up and probed. You can get sucked up and probed. The aliens are walking into houses, I hope. I would like to go back to him quitting his fight team, though. Yeah. Because this is something we talked about before the show started, and we should talk about it while AQ's here because, you know,

AQ can relate to this more so than anybody else. Matthew Stafford went on his wife's podcast, and he said immediately, I didn't hear this, I only read the headline, and I forget the name of the show, so if somebody. Morning After. Morning After. Okay, here we go. This is from Cantor Holden.

Holden Cantor, a great uh great la rams blog reporter who we have he's the one who made the fuck those pic shirts and his cat he we appreciate this man and his reporting matthew stafford announced on his wife's podcast the morning after that he is not retiring now could have put morning after him per uh quotations maybe the capital letter uh but he was trying to uh you know just inform the world, trying to make the Rams faithful and the Ramley in for the rampede to be informed on the situation. He's not retiring. She asked him straight up, and he answered no right away.

Hey, are you retiring for the good of our family? No. And I don't know if that's how she asked the question, but nonetheless, he has addressed now the potential retirement elephant that was in the room with Matthew Stafford because he's rich, he's won a Super Bowl, he's cemented a Hall of Fame legacy, he's popular, everything has come together. And why would you want to continue to sign up to get beat up? This man's had a broken

neck, broken ribs, multiple concussions. And currently, I think he has a spinal contusion, that's what they're saying? Yep. So AQ said, he has the same injury as me. I was forced to retire. He's just going to come back and play. I be i'm intrigued to hear your thoughts on this honestly what do you think about matthew stafford saying this in his all are all spinal contusions the same i guess you would know a lot more about this as this was your career ending injury basically yeah this was intriguing to me as well i i mean i as soon as it happened they were like nope i mean you remember the conversation yeah real quick hey nope done so you thought you were going he thought he was going in to get diagnosed to get some treatment, what's going to have to happen next couple weeks

because they were in the middle of a playoff push. He was playing, playing well for the team, starting at center because Jensen was hurt, I believe, at the time. And then all of a sudden, a hit that you probably had before with a feeling that you've had before, you go into the doctors, just want to set the table here, and you're expecting to be able to get back in there like any other injury you have. And then just out of nowhere, abruptly, hey, you're never playing football again.

See this? Circled, which was the spinal contusion. Can't play anymore. Oh, and by the way, for the next six weeks, try not to let your kids jump on you. Try not to get into a car accident. Proceeded to, about five weeks later, get rear-ended by a lady going 50. At the tail end of the window there. Tail end of the window. Let's hope you're.

Somehow, nothing happened, which was a plus. But still, nonetheless, can't play football anymore. So to hear somebody else love Matthew Stafford, came out in the same draft class, trained together before the draft, same place. Tough. Tough as can be. Hell of a football player. Hell of a career.

Bunch of kids. Married. Super Bowl. There's a – now he's made a lot of money, but if he's on the roster, March 19th, $57 million becomes guaranteed. I get it. I understand the business side of it, and I guess I would say, no, I'm not retiring at all until I was forced to retire

if there's another $57 million coming March 19th. But AQ, he called me the day this whole thing happened with the doctor, and the kids can't climb on you for six weeks or whatever. But he's like, I'm not really allowed to get hit, fall down, wrestle. They don't know. They're telling him to be very careful. And to break the tone of the convo, because it was pretty emotional for this man who's a football meathead through and through, middle of the season in which he's playing for a team

that's potentially going to go win a Super Bowl. He's told out of nowhere on a fucking Monday or Tuesday, hey, your career's over. It was pretty emotional. It was a serious conversation. I respected and appreciated the fact that you called me on that day. So to break the tone at the end of it, I was like, oh, so like at any given moment, I could fucking paralyze you. You need to remember that.

You know, like that's how I said it, you know? And he laughed. We laughed. But he was like, yeah, basically I'm being told like can't do really anything that's a lot of movement potentially to the spine or like the worst thing possible can happen so when he heard stafford was like yeah i'm coming back yeah the shock on your eye was like legit real it was like what because i mean i was told by numerous doctors including the top doctor for spines in la like

can't play can't put a bar on your back for the rest of your life like no squatting like you know where is it where exactly point to where it is at aq like where on your back for the rest of your life. Like, no squatting. Where is it? Can you point to it where it is at AQ? Like, where on your neck? Like, C2, C3, C3, C4. Oh, okay. Similar. Is that something like when people get fused?

Is that the area people get fused? Yeah. So, that's an option. And that's an option if, like, pain persists and it starts to affect, like, everyday life. Like, that is, like, the next option for me. Which it definitely is, right? Every day. It is.

Every day. Every single day. I mean, sometimes. Yeah. Get like the little. Yeah. Barely move your head. Yeah, exactly.

And if it's not the right bed. Right. I get numbness. Yeah. Can't stand up the next morning. This way. Fuck. Only a few people know what we're doing right now.

We're messed up. And those people have to appreciate it. But that's his take on a man who had a spinal contusion on another man who allegedly has a spinal contusion, saying he's coming back, he's not retiring, a man who was forced to retire. So it's interesting because I guess there's different severities of it, different placements of it.

I don't know. Yeah, and two different positions. But, like, they both, you know, quarterbacks handle the line and take massive shots. Like, it's not like he's playing a you know position where he can avoid it like even brady brady got hammered on sunday and he goes down whenever he can but like you you guys just said one hit is all it takes and then his o-line stinks like it's been very bad all year they're not drafting an o-lineman in the first round or the second round

or the third round we hope mate can this contusion just heal or is that so if i got an mri right now from what i was told i haven't gotten a recent mri but from what i was told by the doctor that bruise will be there for the rest of my life can we ice you put some stim on yeah you can't get it apparently there's like no blood flow that can get there to help it like heal what about one of those chambers what do you mean hyperbaric yeah there it is you ever think about sleeping in a hyperbaric chamber maybe that'll give you maybe just do it for the next five years straight every night see if it disappears yeah do my own science put the pads back on sleep away from costa rica get some of those stem get those like massive amounts of stem cells ayahuasca yeah yeah

maybe ayahuasca will travel to your spine because they do it with mushrooms you gotta do a spinal tap to find. So maybe that's how we get in there. Maybe just have Glaze karate chop it and reverse the. Yeah. Reverse it. That's a great call. He's the only guy we can trust.

Yeah, I assume. What is Glaze saying in every fight club that AQ doesn't show up at? Well, I'll tell you what, AQ. If you don't start taking this more seriously, you're going to end up turning into one of those sloppy fat thos we were talking about. We need to get you in here. Jay, what do you say to everybody else whenever AQ doesn't show up? Do you talk any shit about them?

I just basically say, hey, can you believe this big push still isn't coming in here? And it's because he knows I'm going to fucking come right down Broadway with a one-two and bloody up his nose and his lip, and I'm going to give it to him all with a one-two and bloody up his nose and his lip. And I'm going to give it to him all day. I ain't going anywhere, baby. So, you know, get used to it, AQ. Right down Broadway. Don't blame me for not wanting to come back in here.

I'm tired of fucking eating these things. Did Jay, did you have a good time in Qatar? Or what was the situation there for you? Well, we talked about it last time. I think, what was it? I ate like a bad day-old ghost penis or something. I got COVID from it. I had to come home right away. It wasn't COVID?

No. In the penis. Yeah. Tummy ache from day-old ghost penis. Tummy ache. All right. Shout out, Jay. Shout out, Jay.

Love you, Jay. Miss you, Glaze. Hey, Jay, don't let this guy fucking run from your fight club any longer. Get this guy back in the gym. I'm on my way. All right. Hey, you want to make some putts here, pal? Why?

Let's do it. Yes. Make some putts. I won three of four yesterday on this. Did you? Yeah. Right side. Near side.

Near side, straight down. I feel like it's flattened out a little bit. We did a little walking on it at the holiday party. I think that kind of straightened it out a little bit. You think so? I think so, yeah. Over here, there. No, no.

No, I'm over here. Okay. Near one. Straight down. You've got to go right edge, I think. Right down. Yes, right edge. Right edge.

Whatever Michael Cole did, do that. No, Jesus. That mark. He missed, what, 10 straight in the same spot? Yeah. Didn't even think about adjusting. Nope, not even a little. Not once.

He's yanking them. He's so happy about the Mets being a good team, by the way. Is he a golfer, Pat? You watched. I don't think. He texted me today, 100 days until MLB starts. There it is. He's got a classic mark.

Ladies and gentlemen, it is time on this Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, December 20th, 2022. In the spirit of the holiday season, if A.Q. Shipley from Moontown Ship, Penn State Colt, the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Philadelphia Eagles, the Baltimore Ravens, the Indianapolis Colts, the Baltimore Ravens, the Arizona Cardinals, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as a coach, and then retiring. If he's able to go three of five

right here, we'll give 20 people $500 to retweet this tweet, say something nice to somebody, and put their cash tag in there to fully enter. AJ, anything to say to A and put their cash tag in there to fully enter. AJ, anything to say to AQ before he takes his first putt here? I think I'll make the first two at least.

I think so too. I think you're going to start hot. I love AJ's optimism. Right edge here. AQ does have a beautiful stroke. He has a putting green in his backyard. Too hard. Hit a house. Crushed that. Too hard. Coward. Hit a house. Crush that.

Crush it. Slow down. Crushed it. It's got to go three or four here for 20 winners. Oh, no. Here you go. Here you go, AQ. There it is.

One for you. There it is. Nope. Nope. I broke on you. I was told AQ had a putting green in his backyard. I was told it's right edge. I was told he was in a sack of putting greens. Moving right.

It's like it goes up and then it goes down. You've got to keep it up on the top. On the shelf. It's a double breaker. We'll give ten people. It's going right. I mean, you're pushing it to Jabba. Alright, here we go.

You make this. Hold on. Hold on. I like my better. it to Jabba over here. All right, here we go. You make this. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I like my better. I liked it better over here. Well, take it over there then. If AQ Shipley, host of the Bobbled Exchange and In the Trenches.

Hell yeah. Can make this one putt, his first try. Come on. We will give 10 people $500 who retweet this tweet, quote tweet this tweet with saying something nice to somebody and their cash tag, your cash tag or theirs. It's a holiday spirit. It is. 10 people win $500 who enter completely randomly,

selected by Bruce Branovich. Oh, no. Oh, thank you. Oh, thank you. Thank you. Don't give a fuck about Hanukkah or Christmas. Be careful. What are you doing?

That was a mulligan. No, this would be the mulligan. That's not how it works. I'm going to pay for the mulligan. What are we doing? I don't know. You tell me. Of his own money. Yeah, because he's paying for the mulligan. That's not how it works. You've got to pay for the mulligan. What are we doing? I don't know. You tell me. Of his own money.

Yeah, because he's paying for the mulligan. He's not going to want to make that. His wife is also going to be pissed about the holiday season. Well, it's Hanukkah. Let's do it. Happy Hanukkah, Cher. Happy Hanukkah, Cher. And to all the Jewish folks out there, obviously.

Happy Hanukkah. Happy Hanukkah. Crossword puzzle in the New York Times is wild. Yeah, it was wild. I stink. Okay. I stink. It looks like he owes all of us $500. This is your worst attempt, yeah.

You want to throw some footballs at the hoop? Sure. Careful. Hey, bring your good energy because when people see this video, they're going to think it's your first try. Yeah, true. They're not going to even know about your seven misses. I made my first try earlier.

Nobody's seen it. That's not good. Oh, man. Ladies and gentlemen, this is A.Q. Shipley, Super Bowl champion, football coach, and player. Formerly of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the Arizona Cardinals, the Baltimore Ravens, the Indianapolis Colts, the Baltimore Ravens, the Philadelphia Eagles, and the Pittsburgh Steelers. If he makes this or any of these footballs into the hoop, we'll give five people $500 who retweet this tweet, say something nice to somebody,

and put their cash tag in there as well to fully enter. Randomly, five people, $500 in the holiday spirit. AJ, anything to say to AQ before he attempts to throw these footballs into the hoop? Just bank it in, AQ. We've seen a lot of success with that, the first one. I bet the AQ Shipley of Penn State Colt. That's a great throw. Never mind.

Go right at it. Go right at it, man. That was a great throw. That was an incredible throw. There's two more footballs, dude. That was so bad. No, you're not. That was so bad.

No, you're not. What are you talking about? You're good. It's a holiday. There it is. That one was worse than the first one. I tried the back. That was so bad. No, you're not. What are you talking about? You're good. It's a holiday. Oh, there it is. That one was worse than the first one. I tried the back. I tried the back.

That was a good throw. Why change the recipe? You were right there. Oh, fuck. I just said I'm white. I've been in the middle of shows. Good run, AQ. Pat, I think you should shoot some hoops.

I don't know, man. That was bad. All right. Every dog has his day. Thanks, Con. No problem. You got it. Here it is. It's going in. Big ring.

The hoop doesn't have a top on it. That's good to know. I'm making those at a pretty good clip. I'm making those at a pretty good clip. I'm making those at a pretty good clip right now. I feel good about it. We'll definitely give some people some money. Okay? Okay.

Let's give – no, we'll come back tomorrow. We'll have to double it. Roll it over. We'll roll it over. Just want to let everybody know that just like a carnival, it is open. Could have been made. Obviously it was not. Next week, you'll do even better.

Okay, Al. Work on your game. Tough week for me. Okay. There's some breaking news coming out of the NFL. We knew that we were told by Ian Rappaport that he would not clear the waiver wire whenever he was released from the Packers. Sammy Watkins did not clear the waiver wire whenever he was released from the Packers. Sammy Watkins did not clear the waiver wire. He is headed to the Baltimore Ravens yet again. Knows the system. They do not

have a lot of weapons over there. Obviously, the Ravens are in the lead in the AFC North. Coming off a tough loss against Cleveland Browns with Lamar Jackson coming back. Does this change anything? We have no idea. Jordan Schultz of the schultz report obviously little locked hay front of the program he's told that several teams including the giants were interested in the veteran wide receiver total pro who really helped romeo dobbs and christian watson in green bay his time in green bay was not fantastic obviously on the field sounds like he did some work off the field to help develop these young guys he has had success in a lot of the places that he has gone he's going back to the ravens good for sammy good for the ravens i hope it works out aj yeah i think somebody i don't know

if it was con and ty whoever said yesterday like the ravens should should find a way to claim him so yeah this this does make sense i think sammy it sounds like although we didn't have a ton of production in green bay he did have a positive impact yeah sounds like he'll be remembered fondly which is great news ravens get another weapon they needed, AQ. Absolutely. I mean, they can use all the receiving talent they can use moving forward because that's what they keep saying. The offensive coordinator's got to get some weapons down the field. The run game's great.

We've got to get the pass game going. They've got another weapon. Hopefully Sammy Watkins still got it. Yeah, good luck, Sammy. I'd also like to hear what Sammy Watkins thinks about the five UAP UFOs last night in Wisconsin. It's a shame he got released and didn't get to see it. That might have been him leaving.

Yeah, headed to Baltimore. Was that going east? Might have been. It looked over the lake. Yeah, I believe so. It was going over the lake. I do believe so from a different angle. Towards Baltimore.

All options are on tape, Reed. That's right. I don't know a human body would be able to survive that L1 to R2 move. TC is the only one. Sammy's an athlete, too. He's a one-on-one TC. Anyways, that was the last breaking news of today. Thank you to Aaron Rodgers for joining us.

Thank you to AQ for joining us. Obviously, thank you to Patrick Peterson for stopping by. Today was a hell of a day. Thank you all so much. Enjoy life. Say something nice to somebody, even though AQ refused to give you an opportunity to be forced to do so.

Anyway, AQ. And we'll see you tomorrow. It's the holiday season. Let's smile a little bit. Say something nice to somebody. Goodbye!