The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 825 - Damar Hamlin Updates, NFL Week 17 Recap, NFL Week 18 Playoff Scenarios, Ian Rapoport, Everything DB With Darius Butler LIVE From The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: January 4, 2023

On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat some more about the Damar Hamlin situation and give some updates on his status and what we’re hearing, they chat about their experience at the College Football Playoff Semifinal in Atlanta and the National Championship in LA, plus they go through and break down everything from week 17 of the NFL season. Joining the show to chat about Damar Hamlin, what he’s hearing, and all the different playoff scenarios heading into this weekend is NFL Network Insider and friend of the show, Ian Rapoport (23:11-50:46). Later, 9 year NFL veteran at Defensive Back, host of The Man-To-Man podcast, NFL Matchups on ESPN, and Everything DB on this progrum, Darius Butler breaks down all the best DB plays of the week in another segment of Everything DB (2:00:30-2:27:19). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people. It is winner Wednesday, January 4th, 2023. Whoa. Holy shit. This sports show starts right now. Is going into its biggest weekend yet. Not only is it the final weekend of the regular season, we need to take it all in, but the national championship for college football is happening on Monday night as well. We got NFL games on Saturday. We got NFL games on Sunday. We got a national championship on Monday. Let's enjoy the hell out of that.

We're getting updates from Jordan Rooney and the Hamlin family about what's been taking place at the University of Cincinnati Medical Center with DeMar Hamlin. We will have Ian Rappaport joining us in about 17 to 27 minutes, breaking down all the latest. Sounds like an optimistic operation going on. Zito, your microphone is on in the back. I believe it is an optimistic situation taking place from the reports that we are hearing. What's real?

What isn't? Not 100% sure. We will chat with Rappaport in 17 minutes. Hopefully, he will give us more. Now, today is Winner Wednesday. We'll be announcing all the winners from the last week of giveaways that we've done on this program and on Twitter. We didn't really get to overreact to the games that happened this past weekend because obviously a much more real and a much more important story kind of took the day yesterday. I feel like Hamlet will always have our positive thoughts and our prayers, and hopefully we'll learn good news today.

But we also have to chat about a lot of things happening around the NFL that we have not got to just yet. The Talks at Table will be here at Boston Corner at Ty Schmidt. Connor, wearing an MIT hat, you look fantastic, pal. Thank you very much, Patty. I figured I'd bring the big brain hat in today, maybe step up the mental game perhaps. And then, yeah, this is the famous quote that we got last year

after Adrian Peterson stole mine and went on the stage. Oh, I forgot about that. You know, we are getting into the playoffs. Yeah, it was gifted. It wasn't stolen. Kind of got de-bowed, but we are getting into the playoff season. We're getting into Radio Row season. That's right.

We're getting into the most important time of the year for the football. Let's try to enjoy the hell out of it at Ty Schmidt Sunday night in the main event of Week 18. The Green Bay Packers

on Sunday night football will be at home against the Detroit Lions in a win-in-your-in situation. The Lions need the Vikings? Seattle to lose. Seattle to lose. If Seattle loses, then it will be a win and you're in.

If Seattle wins, the Lions are only going to play spoiler. Where's your mind at? Where's your head at? I believe we'll be in Los Angeles to watch this game. What are you thinking on, pal? Incredibly excited. I mean, we talked about it all year with how weird this NFL season has been, but it really wasn't until, I don't know, two weeks ago where I

started thinking like, hey, this is a possibility. Like the Packers actually might sneak into the playoffs. And then after that Vikings game on Sunday, like I'm full tilt, like, hey, this team could beat anybody. I've done a complete 180 on where I was, you know, the week before Christmas. Holy shit, we have meaningful football. Win and you're in. I mean, this is the kind of stuff that you dream for. This is the kind of stuff that you live for as a fan. I cannot wait. Hell yeah, having a meaningful game in Week 18 is important.

Now, the Giants are able to rest their players, taking on the Eagles, who are currently in the lead of the NFC East. They potentially end up as a wild card as opposed to the number one seed in the NFC. The Giants who just pounded the Indianapolis Colts. And the Indianapolis Colts got a lot to figure out, obviously, this offseason. I've heard Chris Ballard will be here through it. I have faith in Chris Ballard's big brain. The team he put together on paper, seemingly great.

I think he's going to have to rebuild. Colts are not in the conversation this week, though, because they don't fucking matter. The Colts should matter this week. They do not. That's an embarrassment. Let's move on. The Giants could play spoiler to the Philadelphia Eagles from having home field advantage through the playoffs to being a wild card and having to be on the road.

That is bananas to think about, but that's why this NFL season has been so beautiful. At Tone Diggs, Kenny Pickett has come in and become an absolute rock star for the city of Pittsburgh. Obviously, formerly University of Pittsburgh Panther, teammates with DeMar Hamlin. I assume he's going through a lot as we all are right now, becoming the Steelers quarterback. Big comeback win over the Baltimore Ravens. Everything you said could happen after the bye week has seemingly happened. And I don't know if it's just because of Kenny Pickett, but damn, Tomlin's got to feel good.

Steelers got to feel good. How are your anxieties going into the final weekend of the season as a Pittsburgh Steelers fan? Yeah, Kenny knows them, obviously. Mike Tomlin spoke so eloquently yesterday. I've known him since he was 12. That's, that's another thing about Tomlin.

Ginzers, Steelers, want to fire this guy every single week. Not all, not all, not all, not all. Okay. It becomes a conversation.

Yes. That Tomlin needs to get fired, needs to get fired. This year, it got real loud because this is going to be his first losing season in the history of him being a head coach in the NFL. Now there's always ways to diminish credit whenever you want to. Well, Ben Roethlisberger never had a losing season in the NFL either.

When was the last time he won a – does the regular season matter? Okay, in Pittsburgh, we care about having winning seasons. And if he's been around for so long, why can't they fucking make a real run in the playoffs? Having a winning season every year, does that mean the roster's shit? And why do we hold Colbert in such high regard? There's a lot of those conversations that take place. But what Tomlin has done with his team this year, new quarterback regardless,

whether it was going to be Mitchell or whether it was going to be Mason Rudolph was even in the conversation. Now Kenny Pickett, they go on this run after the bye week. And then when he starts speaking, the amount that Tomlin has given back to the Pittsburgh community over the years he's been there is admirable. It's something that every city wants. Good for Tomlin getting the team to where they're at right now.

But you're right. Him talking about tomorrow I thought was incredibly cool. It also showcases something about Tomlin that we never talk about. It's like this dude has embraced the city of Pittsburgh as much as any coach has. And he got the boys back in it. Here we go. For me, Coach T could be there as long as he wants. Do whatever you want. Be there as long as you want. Unlike these two.

That's not true. Who has doubted their teams all season long. I sat here right here and I said, after the bye week, you give Mike Tomlin the bye week. Kenny has Mike Tomlin the bye week. Kenny has done nothing but improve his entire life as far as quarterback goes. He's the guy now after the bye.

TJ Watt potentially comes back after the bye. The schedule lines up nicely. Seven and two after the bye. We'll have a chance to make the playoffs. Now there's some help. We need some help. Need the Dolphins to lose. Need the Patriots to lose, which both very, very possible.

Patriots are going to lose. Patriots got the Bills. Dolphins got the J need the Patriots to lose, which both very, very possible. Patriots are going to lose. Patriots got the Bills. Dolphins got the Jets with who knows who's playing quarterback. All you're asking for in week 18 sometimes, not all the time. I mean, rosters pass week 18. This would be a disappointment. But week 18 for this team, all you're asking for is a chance, Pat. Anything can happen on Sunday.

And you do. You certainly do. Congrats to the Steelers getting out of the pit that they were in earlier in the year when Diggs certainly gave up. Yeah, yeah. Earlier in the year, Diggs certainly gave up. Unlike these two. That's when Ted was the quarterback. Erroneous.

I understand. Looking at what draft pick they'll have. New time, new place. Kenny Pickett's quarterback. You guys are doing your thing. But this is what Week 18 is. Do you hear what he said? Need the Patriots to lose.

Need Dolphins to lose. Both very feasible yeah we need to win that's three things that have to happen in the NFL season that we have not been able to predict at all but that's what week 18 is Darius J Butler host of the man-to-man podcast everything DB can't wait to watch what you have this week I believe there's some trickery and fuckery on whoa it's gonna get broken down but week 18 in the NFL season here's all there's three pages of scenarios right now okay three pages of scenarios and we wrote them down just so we didn't get them wrong because there's a lot of can clinch one can clinch seven if this team wins this team loses this team does

this it seems like there's more teams alive right now than we could have ever imagined does it matter do we already know who the super bowl winners are going to be do we already know who's going to be in the Super Bowl? All this bottom of the bubble that everybody's jousting for right now, does it really matter in your eyes? Always matters. Always matters, man. It's a new season once you get into the playoffs.

We see how crazy this year has been. We'll have my guy, Justin Herbert, in the playoffs for the first time. Nobody wants to see that guy. So, yeah, it always matters, man, jousting for seeding. And then for the teams, you know, it what you what you can control what you can do as a player what you could do as a coach so uh you had three pages right there a lot of people gave ron rivera shit for not knowing he could be eliminated after the game he definitely should know maybe he was joking there but a lot a lot is going on but players just got to handle their

business carson wentz obviously throws three picks in a game that they had to win. Ron Rivera allegedly, and we're saying allegedly because we assume he was joking. I hope so. He could have been trolling, but also if Ron Rivera comes out and goes, I was so focused in the game, I'm not worried about what's going on elsewhere, also gets a pass. I don't think he has said that, so now everybody's, here's the video of what happened with Ron Rivera

and the media reporter just the other day after the game. After they lose, and he is told basically, your playoff hopes could literally all end here in a couple hours. To clarify, you said you would talk about quarterback next week. If you guys are eliminated today by what happens at 4 o'clock, is Sam Howell in consideration? We can be eliminated. Yeah, if the Packers beat the Vikings, then you guys are eliminated.

I have no idea. Could have been fucking with him. Yeah, maybe. The look on his face. What? Would sell the fucking with even more, right? I mean, I think he could come out and say, obviously I knew we could get eliminated.

That person was talking to me like I was a dipshit. Like that's what Ron Rivera could do. Hasn't done that though. There's been no response since that moment. So we must assume that he didn't know. And that's because he was so so dialed into the game. I don't know why you bench Heineke who's won a lot of games

in a must win type game that they had. Heineke will start this the last game of the year even though it does not matter. What does that say for the future? We don't know. We have no idea. Jeremy Fowler of ESPN, the Commanders are expected to turn back to Taylor Heineke as the starter for Sunday season finale versus the Cowboys, but rookie

quarterback Sam Howe is also slated to play, marking the NFL debut for the fifth round pick per source. Barring change of plans, this will be the setup. So, Sam Howe, did he get hurt? Is that why he hasn't played all year? Yeah, Liz Frank at the training camp.

Training camp, right? So now they're getting a chance to finally get a look at this guy. Could he be our guy for the future? Is he another Taylor Heineke? Very possibly. Very possibly. Does he have all the X factors of Taylor Heineke off the field? We'll see.

Taylor has them all. Remember, he is beloved by his team. There's a spark when he goes in there. Is he top-tier talent quarterback of all time? No. But they seemingly win and try harder when he's playing, and they don't give away games when he doesn't. Them trying to replace him and find out who the next him is going to be

something they're going to try to do until they find a guy. heineke won him games yeah heineke won him games they went on a run the only reason why they were in it is because taylor heineke was a quarterback of a team that won no chase for a majority of the season i wonder what their mindset is going forward are they going to try to unload carson are they going to try to get another quarterback or are the commanders going to have a new name after the new sale? What a massive question mark in Washington, Darius Butler. A lot of question marks. I think you might just have to revamp everything. No, no, no.

They already debuted a new fucking mascot. That too. Hoggy? Sergeant Hog. Sergeant Hog. What? Who voted on it? The Commanders.

The Commanders make no good decisions. Major Tutty. Sorry. I saw Kyle Brandt said this, and it's probably the best take. And we didn't talk about this yesterday. It was on the agenda yesterday. This was certainly going to get chatted about yesterday. Kyle Brandt said, halftime week 17?

Why is this the time? What the hell? And I think that's a great way to look at it. I wasn't going to mention it. I was going to talk about how he got a full intro. The way he's just fat, offensive line doofus. Face of the franchise. This becomes the whole thing.

Is this diving into the full commie? Like they're just going all in? No, I think this is a tribute to the past of what he used to be, trying to bring them in. And I don't think anybody from the past fans gave a fuck about a mascot happening. No. This is just another decision made by the commanders that makes us all believe that when this team is sold, it'll be for the better of the entire NFL.

But hell of a run from this fat pig. I think they were honoring the team's past Hall of Famers or something. They were. And, like, the Hogs and everything. So they tried to – but Dan Snyder apparently wasn't even there. Yeah, or his wife. And the Hogs were going to sue them if they were going to do something with that name. Yeah, it's terrible over there.

Let's move on. They're hot. Yep, they stink. Commanders are completely out. We'll be joined by Ian Rappaport in five minutes or so to see what the newest update is on DeMar Hamlin at the University of cincinnati medical center and also everything else going on around the nfl there's a lot of different injury

i i asked rap this morning i'm like rap what what do we you know what do we because i don't like asking him a question him not knowing the answer and us having to tell him right yeah because that's embarrassing we're bringing him on to be the inside. Like. Mm-hmm. We're burying him. Like, Ian, you don't know this, but, like, when we're telling you information, that's not good for the gimmick. That's not good for the insider gimmick. No. Like, all offseason, when he was at the Harry Potter Museum. Right.

In the Lego factory. Yeah, Pez dispensary. Pez dispensary. Ten different golf courses. And we're calling him, and we're like, what have you heard about insert storyline? He's like, I think blah, blah, blah. And we're like, Ian, that changed this morning. We're going to stop wasting ours and your time here.

I think he's still dialed in. And by that, I mean, I asked him, I'm like, what do we need to ask you about? What do we need to talk about? He says, well, a little bit update on DeMar, obviously, a lot of talking there. Commander's quarterbacks, he said we can talk about that. Dolphins, Eagles, what happens with that game? What happens with Jalen Hurts? I think it's okay to continue to chat about future implications of the games.

I'm like, okay, this conversation with Ian is about to be a great one. Darius. Yep. Week 18. one um darius yep week 18 there are teams that have already had their off season scheduled for four weeks or so yeah four or five weeks how come those teams sometimes show up out of nowhere and have like the greatest of all time do you think it's because of fuck it last time out here or there's some guys playing that have the ability to put on some good tape to hopefully get an audition somewhere else why do you think some of the –

there's going to be a team that's completely eliminated this weekend that we're going to watch that have sucked most of the year, and then somehow they're going to battle against somebody this weekend, and we're going to wonder how and why that took place. Why do you think it is that somebody that was in a locker room and understands the locker room as much as you do? Yeah, number one, that's the reality in the locker room. You know, every year that locker room is going to be different the next year.

So when you go out there for that last game, you know, if you got 53 guys on the roster, like, you know, 43 of them are, you know, their career is kind of in the balance almost year in, year out with a team. So maybe 30 something. But so you can try to put your best tape out there, try to put your best foot forward, whatever you got left in the tank, you're going to leave it all out there

for the most part. And then some guys, you know, fuck it. They know they're going to be good next year. They know they'll be back and maybe nursing something. They're just trying to get out of there healthy, especially on the heels of what took place with DeMar this past weekend. So it's going to be interesting. A lot of different teams, a different situation.

I'm very interested to see how the Eagles handle Jalen Hurts this week. Because one seed's a big deal. Oh, yeah. Huge to him, Lane. Especially because of the – and you talk about Lane being injured, but, like, you think Jason Kelsey wouldn't mind a week off? Yeah. Probably would like that.

You know what I mean? Like, you think a lot of those guys that have played very physical football – you got some OGs on defense this time. You don't think they'd want a week off to kind of freshen up in this whole thing? But to do that, are you putting Jalen an extra risk where you could give him another week to kind of settle in? Obviously, Gardner Minshew has had success in the NFL. They're a much different team when Jalen's playing versus when Gardner's playing

because Jalen has solidified himself as a guy completely. That's a great question. I think you play Jalen. Yeah. What's that? I'm with you. I thought you were going to say how much, too,. That's a great question. I think you play Jalen. Yeah. What's that? I'm with you. I thought you were going to say how much, too, because that's the whole thing. When do you?

Pull the plug. Yeah, because you don't want to risk any more because you want that extra week that you're about to get for Jalen as well. It's like, hey, the next week we get a bye week. That's great for Jalen's shoulder as well. That'll be a fine balance by Sirianni, who's known to be dog how do you put like kind of restraints on him like you're up there in Alaska running the uh I did a run yeah I did a run how is he going to be able to handle that that is because this is a big game for them huge one seed versus wild card is a vastly different world in the playoffs

yeah you get to you know play in Philadelphia for the entire time how tough that is for other teams and how much you think it depends on the giants too because if the giants rest of their starters because they can't move up to five they can't fall down to seven so they're actually just kind of stuck where they are at six like if they play maybe half their starters if they don't play dan jones like do you think sirianni's maybe even waiting to see that kind of almost a game time decision because if he knows they're not playing those guys, then you would assume he'd be comfortable with Minshew going out there and getting it done.

Here's the NFC situation. Philadelphia Eagles can clinch the NFC East and the number one seed with a win over the Giants. Okay. Just beat the Giants. Simple. Giants got nothing to play for. Nothing.

But Big Mo's a real thing. Yeah. You just beat the Colts 38-10. Ride the hot hand. Do you want to continue to do that going into playoffs? Probably. Are they going to rest people? Do we know if they're resting people? We don't know yet, but it's kind of like the Jags played everyone against the Texans last week

when they didn't have to and just fucking took care of business. Boat race them because they need to win against the Titans this weekend. That is a big game. I'm a firm... What's that? Same situation. New coach. You know, obviously you got Trevor Lawrence in his second year, but you got WP. That's the first time they're together.

So this is the time you want to kind of be hot. I think so, too. You want to be playing your best ball. I'm a big fan of let's go. Yeah. And I think the reason why I'm a big fan of let's go is because my rookie year, we rattled off 14 straight wins. Oh, yeah.

Number one seed in the AFC locked up by the time fucking week 15 ended or week 14 ended or whatever. So then Bill Polian made the decision to rest the players week 15, week 16. I believe Peyton started, everybody started week 15 against the Jets, and then everybody got pulled, and it was a preseason game. A lot of punts. We lose to the Jets. We let the Jets in, actually, because we lose.

Then week 17, game 16, we're in Buffalo. Peyton, everybody starts. There's obviously 100 catch records that are on the line. They're drawing a place in the actual snow. We'll do this. We'll do this. We'll do this. Then everybody gets pulled.

We lose again. We go 14-2. Now, we win that next game after we take the bye, and we win in the championship round, and we get to the Super Bowl, and we lose again we go 14 and 2 now we win that next game uh after we take the bye and we win in the championship round and we get to the Super Bowl and we lose but I remember every single player in that locker room and I was too young to have an opinion way too young and I'm a punter so shut up but like everybody in there was pissed about it they're like there's only been one team that's gone undefeated throughout the entire thing. We could potentially be that team. And also we haven't played our best football yet. Like there is still time to grow. I understand the risk factor of people getting hurt. That

could happen in practice. That could happen in practice. People could get hurt. So they're running full speed practices during the week because we got to keep our cardio and conditioning up, but then we're going to rest you for the game. It's like full-speed practice still could potentially be an injury if we're going to live like that. I'm a big fan of let's keep going, let's keep building, but I'm also not in a position where I could potentially get hurt every single fucking play. So it's a tough thing.

You said Poling obviously had that comfort to make that decision, and you got Peyton, too, who had obviously been there. Peyton, Dallas, Jeff, Gary, Joseph, we had vets everywhere. They could run that offense and that operation in their sleep at that point. Hurts, what's going on with Danny Dimes now in New York, Jacksonville, all these teams, they're tasting their best success right now. I would want Hurts in there. I know he's going to be hurt.

He's going to be banged up, so he's going to have to change how he plays, I assume, but I would want hurts in there i know he's gonna be hurt he's gonna be banged up so he's gonna have to change um how he plays i assume but i will want him in there with that offense with his new right tackle if it's not gonna be lane whatever it's gonna be um you got to figure it out and that rank the whole offense is different obviously but even the run game like just having hurts in the backfield you have to account you have to add another defender that has to account for him every time he carries out that fake like we have to add another defender that has to account for him. Every time he carries out that fake, like we have to be prepared for that. He may get two guys. We saw that on the trenches. Yeah, he may get two guys with that, and that may mean, you know,

15, 20 more yards from Miles Sanders. So it's a game changer. You want your guys in there playing their best ball at this point in the season. And for health reasons, you definitely want that bye week and that home field advantage throughout. And if you're the Giants, I think you played Danny Dimes. You played everybody. We just played our best

football. Now, Granny, you don't have any big known wide receivers, so you can't get anybody hurt there, which is certainly something that Dayball is going to have to figure out, but it's football. It is football. Philadelphia Eagles clinch NFC Houston number one seed with win over Giants or Cowboys lost to Commanders

and 49ers lost to Cardinals. Need that. Niners need to win, though. Right? Niners, in their mind, they could potentially still go to one, so they are going to be trying against this Cardinals team that seemingly. Oh, yeah, they threw it in. But you mentioned them.

That seems like the team who maybe we're watching on Sunday, and it's like, how the hell are the fucking Cardinals hanging around in this game? Like, you know, like that's the team where they are seemingly dead, but it's like out of nowhere they fucking take the Niners down to the wire, and it just makes no sense. Yes. The Raiders. What's that? The Raiders. Yeah, Raiders too.

Talent. Yeah. Teams that have talent, that have a long offseason that they probably don't want to sit on playing like shit the last game could come out of nowhere and surprise people. Raiders is a good one. Niners clinched number one seed with win over Cardinals, and the Eagles lost to the Giants, which easily could happen.

That is something that easily could happen. Dallas Cowboys clinched NFC East with win over Cardinals, our commanders, and Eagles lost to Giants. They clinched the NFC East and the number one seed. Cowboys are still in it for the number one seed right now. Why? Win over Commanders, Eagles lost to Giants. 49ers lost to Cardinals. We have no idea if that will happen.

It is the 2022 NFL season. Packers clinch wild card berth with win over Lions. Detroit Lions clinch wild card berth with win over Packers and Seahawks lost to the Rams. Seattle Seahawks clinch wild card berth with win over Rams and Packers loss to Lions. So they need something to happen, not just win. They need Lions to lose or Lions to beat the Packers.

It is bananas what could potentially take place. And on the AFC side, there is one, two, three, four, five, six teams, seven, eight, nine, nine teams that have implications this weekend. It is a lot that could happen for the biggest time of the year in the biggest league on earth. Joining us now is a senior NFL insider for the biggest league on earth. Here we go. He's the insider for the network it owns, the website it owns,

and a podcast called The Insiders. The host of the weekly wrap-up with Rap Sheet and friends, although it's been two times this week in two days. Ladies gentlemen we are the friends he is rap sheet ian rapaport rap buddy let's get right into the most important news in the nfl and that is where are we with damar hamlin the university of cincinnati medical center have we heard anything from them is everything hearsay right now? I believe vibes are moving in a positive direction from all the reports we've heard, but we don't know if any of them are legitimized or not.

What are you hearing, and what are your expectations of today for DeMar? Okay, first of all, we have not heard yet from the Buffalo Bills except a statement essentially saying that he is, you know, what he had, cardiac arrest, that he's in critical condition. That has been since overnight. On Monday, we have not heard from UC Medical Center. So the updates we have gotten have been from lay people, not doctors, which is important and should be noted. The family spokesman, who is Jordan Rooney, has been giving some positive vibes, as you might say, some positive updates, telling Cam Wolfe and then texting me a couple minutes ago

that things seem to be heading in the positive direction. We don't know necessarily what that means, but positive is much better than negative. So that is good. And I would also say that just for like expectation standpoint, this isn't necessarily going to be a thing where like he's going to pop up and we'll say everything's OK. Like it's going to be a matter of not minutes or really hours or probably days until we know 100 percent sure how DeMar Hamlin is. OK, so obviously the first things first is we hope he survives and is alive. It sounds like that is... We don't want to speculate. Sounds like that's going to be a thing?

Positive direction generally means... Yes, positive. If things are heading in a positive direction, it generally means that you'd think he is going to survive. That is my assumption there's still some other questions once he does oh yes come out of this thing that need to be answered by people who are not me but medical people and i hope just from a general information standpoint that we get that at the end of this but positive vibes are way better than negative vibes okay we agree we agree. We concur. Obviously, we'll continue to put our positive thoughts, prayers, vibes to DeMar Hamlin over there and his family and everybody. Not easy situation at all, Ian Rappaport.

Are you getting an update right now? No, okay. Thought you were maybe getting a text from a doctor. You are the person that would get that. And we can't wait to hear, hopefully, more positive vibes out of the entire situation in Cincinnati. Let's pivot away from that. Week 18 is taking place. There is nine AFC teams that have implications this weekend happening around the AFC.

On the NFC side, it basically all revolves around the Philadelphia Eagles-Giants game. Now, there's other stuff that can happen, but that game is determining whether or not the Eagles are going to be the number one seed in the NFC, or are they going to be a wild card, which would be a huge shot, I think, across the bow to the Eagles, especially with how this season has gone. We believe that a massive part of this game is hinging upon Jalen Hurts playing, Jalen Hurts not playing. What is the mindset in Philadelphia? Jalen's playing. How long is he playing? And has Sirianni really chatted with anybody about how he plans on handling this game against the Giants? So I would agree with you it's a big game that probably does, well, not probably. It does affect literally everything.

It sounds like Jalen Hurts is in a really good place physically. So if he was needed to play, which I think he will be, then I was told he is expected to go. I would expect him to practice today, move forward from there. He was really close last week. If you had guaranteed me that he wouldn't land on his sprained SC joint, if he could just function, I would say he definitely would have played last week. But they wanted to make sure he didn't land on it and aggravate it, so he did not play.

However, I would also say this. We don't know what the Giants are going to do. The Giants don't have anything to play for. When Buffalo, which is where Brian Dayball and Joe Shane came from, when they were in a similar situation a couple years ago with not much to play for, they had starters come out and play a couple series and then exit, and then the backups came in. So this game may hinge more on that than anything else,

which is simply like how many guys do the Giants actually play? Yeah, this could be like in basketball. When starters come out, we'll take our starters out. But if you're the Giants also, and Dayball is running things now as opposed to McDermott, and it feels like Dayball has a much different vibe on the sideline than McDermott does, there's a lot of, fuck yeah, from Dable. Hold on.

Dable literally looks like he's at my family cookout. Yeah. Dable literally looks like he is from my family. The way he acts, drives that F-150 that's beautiful, the dap up with the team, the excitement, the energy. And I think the Giants needed all of it. Yeah. Wink Martindale, he also, the excitement, the energy. And I think the Giants needed all of it. Wink Martindale, he also big, beloved by the players, swag,

talks shit, not scared about it. I think that's a vastly different situation than what happened in Buffalo with these two running it. If I'm them, and I know I'm just a punter, and I know I'm bottom of the barrel, and I'm a doofus that wears a tank top on TV. As a person that's been able to see this situation firsthand from, like, you know, in the team meeting room, on the sideline, and playing in the game, you know, limited reps, limited, limited reps.

But, see, I would want to keep momentum. They just fucking smoked the Colts. Danny Dimes is playing the best football he has played. The defense, although tipped it out, is a classless, classless human being with what he did next to Nick Foles' dead body. I don't think he knew Nick Foles was dead. I don't think so. I don't think he had a clue while he was doing that. The sleep thing, obviously, like, Bob, read the room.

We're all in the nfl here this is not what you should be aiming to do let's not rub it in the face i appreciate the swagger i appreciate the moxie i like when people celebrate but i don't think he knew his nick foes i also don't like to jeff saturday's point we're paying a lot of money to some bad guys on that offensive line a couple of them tried to treat me like i'm some punk your quarterback gets buried broken and a guy's dancing next to him and you don't fucking do anything yeah that's a problem yeah like there's so many problems to that i don't think tibideau doing a snow angel is number one sleep thing i'm like but come on come on not a perfect like that's not a that's not cool to do

i think everybody in the nfl would say that that. But the Andy Dalton situation that happened with the Cowboys pretty much. You can't have it. That takes place with Nick Foles with the Colts. Like, that's not our team. Let's move on. Let's move on. Let's move on. Don't want to talk about it too much.

But that is a real thing. Like, the Giants have played the best that they've played. Why would you? I think Dable and Wink are going to want to continue to do that. And Giant Eagles, that's a big rivalry, right? Yes, but I agree with everything you said, including that the biggest issue with the Colts

thing was that the linemen weren't like, get this guy out of here. It was a trainer. A trainer. One of our trainers, who might be the biggest dogs in that building, because they've been around the longest. They were the only... Did you see the trainer? I didn't see the trainer. It's not Kyle. I forget the dude that building because they've been around the longest they were the only did you see the trainer i didn't see the trainer it's not kyle i forget dude's name he's been around for a while he came in after i was there i've met him good dude he comes in kicks tibideau's arm pretty much and he's like get the fuck out of the way and it was like

he was the only person sticking up for our fucking quarterback our trainer that's a problem they were thinking about cancun you gotta've got to give them a break. The O-linemen weren't thinking about the football game. And that's a problem. I don't want to see any of those guys in bathing suits in Cancun. I'm just saying. Although, Quentin Ellison probably looks good, I would say. That guy probably looks great.

Yeah, we'll see. I mean, honestly, I do not know. The whole leadership in that Colts building is problematic. But there's been a lot of things that have happened. So there's probably a lot of guys that are like, I'm sick of this shit. And I can understand that as well. But if one of your guys. Quarterback.

Writhing in pain. And there's a snow angel happening next. I don't think Thibodeau knew. Long snow angel too. You know. He didn't know. Thibodeau's not looking at the jumbotron there. He's literally looking up at the sky.

So that could be. In football, there's piles fucking everywhere. Eyes could be's literally looking up at the sky. So that could be in football. There's piles fucking everywhere. Eyes could be closed. Yeah, exactly. Like who knows what that could be. But there should be somebody that gets a 15 yarder. For sure.

Fuck. Dragging him away. Especially because that game doesn't matter for the Colts. So who gives a fuck if you get a 15 yarder? Bro, what if it's the punter too? Because that was third down, right? Yeah, that was third down. What if Hawk comes out and just get the fuck, like anybody.

You know, it should be the offensive lineman for sure. Too much talk about the Colts. They're dead. They stink. Nothing on the line this weekend. But let's talk about the Giants. Go back to your question. I agree that I am a big momentum guy. I am with you on that. It's real.

Still, nothing is as important as the health of your really good players. So if they were asking me, which no one has asked me, if they were asking me, I would say I would never do anything, in a game that doesn't mean anything, I would never do anything to risk having to play someone besides my really good players. And I don't care if it helps a rival because it doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is the Giants are as close to 100% as they can in the playoffs. I understand. And I don't care if it helps a rival because it doesn't matter.

Like, the only thing that matters is the Giants are as close to 100% as they can in the playoffs. I understand what you're saying, but I think the game does mean something to the thing that we're talking about that we do all believe in on this call, even though there are some people that don't, and that's momentum. I think that's a massive – I don't think it just means nothing. Like, I think that is a big deal. You get embarrassed or whatever whatever obviously it doesn't matter because your starters aren't in but you're on that plane ride with everybody oh yeah you're

in that locker room afterwards yeah and they'll throw the tape out they won't break down the tape of that game we're just moving on who cares with that but you have to have a real mature group just be like that that ain't us yeah you want to play them especially the giants you just beat the shit out of the colts and then let's say you rest you know this last week and now you're going into the playoffs really two weeks you haven't really had to play your best football um if i'm the giants i want to play a good eagles team beat them and then go into the playoffs you go into the mindset should we just beat the team that's been the best team in the league all year like we can beat anybody so i think it's important for them to play let's remember the phil the Philadelphia Eagles clinched the NFC East

and the number one seed with a win over the Giants. If not, they end up in a wild card. Uh-oh. That would be a big move by the Giants to do against Philadelphia Eagles for the future. So saying it means nothing. I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying.

And we see what you're saying. Well, we knew we had to inform him today. Yeah. And New England always, hey, Darius, New England always played their guys, right, if I remember? Yeah, but we did lose Wes Walker my rookie year, actually, down in Houston. Oh, yeah. He lost to me towards ACL, I believe, like week 17.

Was that to Houston grass? You remember that? Oh, ACL tear, like week 17. Was that to Houston Grass? You remember that? Oh, ACL tear, right? Yeah. And then after that, we pulled, I think we pulled starters. But yeah, New England usually does it, but, you know, I don't know. Different strokes, different blokes. Different situations, too. I think there's some teams, if there's legitimately nothing to gain here,

like, all right, let's get our guys healthy. If we have a veteran group, too, that can handle it, like a veteran group that can just handle sitting out and kind of doing it, I think it's good. You're the Giants. The Giants are very young. You're still trying to build that culture. I don't know.

For me, and this might just be us being NFL fans, wanting to see the Eagles and Giants have a good game because I think both these teams are playing great football, especially if Jalen's back. But for me, player perspective, in locker room, watching a team rest. I watch a team rest. My rookie year, watched our team kind of bow out the last two weeks of the season. We were 14-0.

Every player hated that decision. Every single player hated it. Really? Yes. Every single one in the locker room fucking hated it. I was too young to have that decision. Every single player hated it. Really? Yes. Every single one in the locker room fucking hated it. I was too young to have a decision, you know, but I would bop over to, like, the defensive group. How we doing, boys?

You know, big rest day, big rest day. Don't even fucking. All right. Yeah. All right, see you guys. Okay. And then I would go over offensive line group. Boys, get the day off or whatever.

That's nice, but only one team's gone undefeated in the history of football. We had a chance to do it. Okay, so we're still not happy over here. All right, let's go over to the skill guys. Boys, we're going to fucking fly around. Quarter and a half or so. I could put up four or five duds against these guys. Okay, nobody's happy about resting in this, so I will always feel that way.

But I do understand why people want to rest. Connor has a question for you, Ian. Yeah, Rob, you know we're entering the playoffs. There's obviously that talk when Jimmy G first got hurt that he might come back, you know, in eight or so weeks, which would be the NFC Championship. And right now they have an unbelievable team. If he is healthy, is there a chance they're going to start him or because of how good brock purdy has been they're just going to ride purdy probably for the rest of these playoffs okay first the health of jimmy g so he got out of the walking

boot late last week i was told he's still not walking regular right so he's still not walking forget about running he's still not walking. Forget about running. He's still not walking regularly. This was described to me as more of a three-month injury rather than an eight-week injury. So it is far-fetched to say that he'd be out there in any sort of playing capacity anytime soon. However, the playoffs, you know, talking about the NFC Championship game, maybe the Super Bowl, that's a month from now or a little more. It is conceivable that he could only be the NFC title game or the Super Bowl, but I wouldn't expect him to start. I would expect him to be the backup if he was active at all, which we don't know. Oh, this is interesting.

Breaking news! Matt Eberflus has just announced that Nathan Peterman is starting week 18 for the Bears. Come on! Justin Fields has a sore hip.

He has a hip strain. How many yards away was he from breaking the record? Oh, God. What is it, rushing record? Like quarterback record as a whole? Lamar Jackson's record. Yeah, single season rush yards.

He was 60 yards away, I believe. Hey, we're still like top five pick right now. You've played great. We appreciate that. This game means fucking hell. No, top two, right? Yeah. I think the Colts can sneak in, though.

Couldn't they get the number one? Colts can sneak in, though. We can go get it. Yeah? Texans win, Bears win. Colts are up to one, I believe. Yeah. Texans are 2-13.

Colts are 4-11. Yeah, so there's – no, we didn't talk about that because we're talking about the jousting at the bottom of the playoff. There's jousting happening for the number one pick. Hell, yeah. And the Colts are back in it. We are back. Let's go.

I'm happy we have it because that is certainly a pick that we could have traded away at different times to get rid of some contracts. Still might. But for the Bears, that has to be just Ibraflues going, we're not losing you. Okay? Yeah. Shut her down. We're sorry you didn't get the record. Guess what?

You'll get it next year. Better all-in. And we will be back. I don't mind that decision from Ibraflues. See, there's a decision that I don't mind from Iver Flus because there's nothing on the line at all. Now, do you play him because he signed

up to play this many games? He's the future of your program. He's your franchise. He's the reason why Bears fans are excited right now. Sure, you can definitely play him. But you lose Justin Fields to an ACL in this game, and then all of a sudden you're right back in the, oh, fuck. Like, what do we do?

Yeah, preach it. Yeah, I think it's a smart move. You lose him for this game, you're talking about him coming back in October. Yeah, missing the beginning of the season. I think that's a smart move. Good play, Ibra Floos. I think so, don't you? Thank you, Floos.

This is the situations or situational type situation where we need you to play for momentum. In this particular one, Bears need to prove nothing. They already proved we got our guy in Justin Fields. We've learned a lot of lessons on how this building works, how this operation works in our first year here. Now we attack the offseason and get better. That feels like a smart decision. Is QB kind of the lone position?

Would you say the Colts would think about resting Quentin Nelson or some of those other pillar players that they know this game doesn't matter? We should certainly think about keeping all our potential trade options healthy. I think that is something we should think about. Also, the Bears, you want to lose at this point.

Winning this game does nothing for you other than potentially taking you from the second pick. Outside of the players and the coaches. You want to evaluate younger players. That's legit. Players want to win. But, like, front office. I mean, they don't want them to win this game.

Well, if you're trying to lose, I wouldn't put fucking Peterman in, okay? I did hear from over there, and that was Tone's penis hitting the bottom of the desk whenever he heard Nathan Peterman was going to play. Because of how excited he just got over there. Way too far away. But, yeah, players and coaches. And the Steelers have the Bears' second-round pick. Boom!

Actually, it's like pick number 33 right now. Boom! Hey, congrats to Ibrafluz. That's a tough decision. Good decision. Smart decision. And we thank Justin Fields for his service this year in the NFL season. You were electrifying, sir. Absolutely electrifying. Good decision. Smart decision. And we thank Justin Fields for his service this year in the NFL season. You were electrifying, sir.

Absolutely electrifying. Good year. We don't know how much time you have, Ian. We assume you're very busy. Tone will sneak one in here for you. A couple games where quarterbacks matter. Are we getting Josh Dobbs for the Titans? And then I can't remember who the other one was.

Josh Dobbs playing for the Titans. Nailed it. We are getting – first of all, I'm okay on time. I got another seven or so minutes if you guys want to have me. Oh, and the Dolphins go back too. That's what I was going to ask. You didn't deserve that. Josh.

We only got seven minutes. Josh Jobs is going to play for the Titans, which is actually really crazy because, first of all, the whole world seems to be happy for this guy. Like, of all the people, like, he must have touched a lot of people in the NFL. He's smart. He's an astronaut. He has been on a lot of teams where it seems everyone he encounters

is rooting for him. So he came in and I thought played way better than his statistics, which were actually five, but way better than his statistics last week. He gets the offense. He's only been there a little bit, but he is going to start for the Titans, and they could win. They could win, and he could be the quarterback of a playoff team, which is bonkers, but it is definitely possible.

Let's finish the Titans, and then Darius has a question about the Dolphins. What does the future of the Titans look like? Tannehill obviously gets healthy. He's their guy going forward. Malik, it seems like he got benched. They've seen enough of Malik Willis, even though he was drafted in the third round. GM's been fired.

What's Vrabel going to do? They were like this. They've gone like this, which is very abnormal for that Titans team under Vrabel. What does the future look like for them? Is Dobbs potentially a guy going forward? He gets his win? I mean, I think he's a potential part of the organization.

In other words, pretty good backup if that's what it is. Malik Willis, it's just too early and he's very, very talented. Seems like he's not ready, which is okay, but was just not. They have a quarterback decision next year and Ryan Tannehill doesn't have any

more guaranteed money. I would say his play has at least warranted them taking a look at who's out there. Not saying replace him. Take a look at who's out there. And you look at the guys who are going to be out there. Jimmy Garoppolo, possibly.

No, possibly. Definitely. Derek Carr. What? He'll be a trade. What about Tom Brady? What? Free agent.

If he's not back with the Bucs. Remember, he looked at the Titans last time. Their receivers are good. Some people think that Ryan Tannehill was the person that Brady was talking about. Oh. I thought that was Carr. I thought it was Carr. Unclear, but some people think that.

You're sticking with that motherfucker? I think it was Carr. We thought it was all Carr. You're saying they're still up. League circles are saying it was Tannehill. Wow. So, you know, that's something where Brady wants to be close to his children. Nashville is pretty close to everything.

Plus, Nashville is an awesome city. It's pretty close. Brady is pretty close. Right in the middle of the country. I've been there a couple times it seems close yeah i mean i guess anywhere that has an airport is close to anywhere sure i mean that's what you just said that's exactly right he wants to be close maybe he goes play maybe he plays for psg yeah paris saint germain uh over there in france then he's just what seven hour flight away?

Yeah, simple. Seven-hour drive, seven-hour flight. New plane, though. He might be on the same team. He might be on the four-hour. You're the best. Raiders are where Tom's going, right? I would say they would be one of the possibilities.

Tom's not retiring is what you're thinking? That I don't know. Because he's going to have to sit down and be like, he's had some not great games. Then he's had games like last week where like, oh, my God, that looks like greater. 430. Or against the Saints.

Russian Tug. Or like, I mean, that's. His ring goes. I think when he started quarterback sneaking again, I was like, Brady must be feeling pretty good. He had a good one last week. Like, you know. Do we think maybe.

He's feeling young again. If he played again, I wouldn't be surprised. If he retired, I wouldn't be that surprised either. Do we think that maybe the family was like, hey, there's no reason for you just to be diving in there with 700 pounds of humans diving on you. You're 45 years old. Okay. And look at you. You're thick.

Can't be taking those hits anymore. You've been doing too much TB12. You need some real ice cream as opposed to the avocado ice cream but you're sticking with the avocado ice cream so we don't need you fucking diving into a scrum anymore gets a divorce gets the crypto lawsuit out of the way they're not covering the center you know the deal hainsey we're coming fucking right under center how does it go uh it's still in the middle of it i think it came out public that it's happening, though, so that probably made his life a lot easier. He is the OG of the Jalen Hurts, Jason Kelsey quarterback sneak.

Like, one of the best to ever do it. Oh, yeah. Because of his ability to read and everything like that. Jalen Hurts is going to end up taking the title because they do it for, like, second and sevens. Yeah. We're going to do it right up the gut with Jason Kelsey in front of us. But it was nice to see Tom be Tom again.

And Mike Evans didn't go off the field ever, stayed on the field, was healthy. That's a big deal for the Bucs as well. Excited to see what happens with Tom. Darius has a question for you, Ian. Hey, Ralph. Last one here. Are we really getting Mike Glennon down in Miami? Is Teddy Bridgewater for sure out this week?

And then number two, Jerry Stidham. He had an unbelievable game this past weekend against best defense in the league. Any considerations with him being a long-term guy there in Vegas? All right, Dolphins first. So Bridgewater has a dislocated pinky on his right hand, but it's not broken. As of now, he cannot throw a football. And if he can, then I think he will play. So then I think it will be either Teddy Bridgewater or Skyler Thompson.

If it was Glennon, he'd be elevated and would be a backup. Being able to throw a football would be fairly important for Bridgewater, so I would imagine if he can't do that, he won't play. He is trying like absolute crazy to be able to play. I just don't know if he will be able to. Jared Stidham, that was crazy. Now, it's different when no one has a scouting report on him, so I would expect it to change a little bit.

But if you're the Raiders, and there is at least a possibility that you have someone who's capable of putting up 40 points against the best defense in the NFL on your roster, you would have to think about that. And, like, that would be, it's like the 49ers finding slash developing Brock Purdy. It's an amazing gift. And if Jared Stidham ends up being real for the Raiders, it will be an absolute amazing gift until they have to pay him

if he is indeed that guy. And he knows the offense. He's been in it longer than anybody else over there in Las Vegas. It is a great setup, and I'm happy to see him have success. And I'm happy that Conor got to see him have success because before they traded for Cam Newton, it was stud-em time in New England. He was supposed to take the baton from Tom Brady and be the next guy. Now he's out in Vegas.

Will he do it there, or will he back up Tom next year? Possible. We shall see. Last question. I know I lied to you a second ago, and you have next guy. Now he's out in Vegas. Will he do it there? Or will he back up Tom next year? Possible. We shall see. Last question. I know I lied to you a second ago and you have to go. Ty has one for you, though. Rep sheet, is there any truth to Harbaugh being interested in the Carolina job? And then they also mentioned him in conjunction with Denver.

Is this all bullshit? Is this just him coming off two college football playoff appearances and trying to sweeten the pot there? Is there a chance that he actually – he said he met with David Tepper. Is there actually a chance he takes that Carolina job? First of all, I don't get the sense there was much, if any, substance at all to a phone call between Harbaugh and Tepper. Like, I don't – they may have spoken.

I don't doubt the report at all. I'm sure they did in some form or fashion. But they're not doing any interviews or anything until the season's over. So if they did speak, I can't imagine it was very much. But I would expect him to be at an NFL job. We'll see if he can get it. Say what you did. Hey, hey, hey.

Oh, whoa, whoa. You cut out right there, like the most important thing. You do expect what? Okay. I would expect him to. You do expect what? Okay. I would expect him to explore getting an NFL job. Okay. I expect him to consider it. I do not know, and I've spoken to, God, I feel like everyone involved.

No one has actually said whether or not Harbaugh is truly interested or whether he just wants an absolute bucket of money from Michigan. I don't know. But he is going about it as if he is interested in the NFL. He is going about it as if this is real. Desmond Howard on college game day, whenever this conversation even came up at the Rose Bowl, his only take was,

every year you can set your clock to this happening, he ain't leaving or whatever. And I think that's a lot of Michigan people saying that because they're like, what are we doing here? We finally got good. You're great. Two years in a row, college football playoff. Joe Moore award-winning offensive line.

You have an identity. Two years in a row, here we go. But I don't think this is Michigan fans making this up. This is everybody else wanting Jim, which is good news and bad news, I guess. In the coaching profession, maybe Harbaugh comes back to the Colts and saves the team that he is in the ring of honor. Anyways, can't thank you enough for joining us. Please keep us updated.

We will follow along on your Twitter, sir. Thank you, guys. Appreciate it. At Rapsheet. That's right. Rapsheet's a good place to get all football news and other cooking news, too. What's that cooking news? I heard there's a show tonight.

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AJ Hawk is here AJ AJ Do you remember that moment Where I was told by Zito And by Ben Hogg from ESPN, hey, this security guy is saying he's going to kick you out. And me and Zito both start laughing and go, please tell him to kick us out.

Do it, dude. Please. I would. Because we had four tickets still in the front row somewhere because we didn't know if we were going to be able to get everybody in there. So obviously I get kicked out from there. I'm coming right back into that stadium, getting the microphone from the front row and doing it from there like it would have been magical but normally you're right that was just one situation and then a full convo happened between us that security guard and their supervisor and like all right this come on i'm

standing here right here yeah i'm, I have to be right here. Have to be. There's some people watching this. I don't know how many people. We have some people watching this. We will get out of the way. We will not be in anybody's way. But we have to be able to do this.

To the guards' credit, who was a Barney Fife fuck, was like, okay, but they were certainly sticklers for that new, hey, we came to your, ha-ha. Like, the game is 100 yards away. The game is a hundred yards away we're just trying to do our thing so there's always going to be that type of stuff this one went a much smoother than i could have imagined now aj obviously you got your spinner van windows busted in right and axel puked twice on the way down who knows how many times on the way back with no windows how that whole thing was we don't have to dive into that i assume it wasn't great and ohio state lost in devastating fashion but put up a great fight that was an incredible experience i cannot fucking wait for so far aj it was awesome i told you

before the game like i was like i'm pumped just to be here on the field and watch these guys like just i stood there during warm-ups with my old teammate ben hartsock who i saw on the sidelines who lives in at. Love Ben. And he knows a lot about the Georgia team. And I was watching their D-line warm-up, and I was like five feet away. And I was like, okay, that guy's a first-round pick. That guy's a first-round pick. Like every single player.

Did they have a zero round before the first round? Looks like that guy. I was scared. I'm like, how does anybody play? It just seems like everybody is so big, so fast, so athletic, and the game proved that too like it was high level football we got to see it firsthand darius we were strolling across the field 20 minutes before it kicked off just as a crew of like seven or eight of us casual just

casually walking right in the game the uh tcu which fucking hell of a win. The TCU game, Michigan game, was up on the Jumbotron, but the Jumbotron straight up like this, and everybody in the stadium is looking at the sky. So we were able just to walk. We were just moseying around the field. I did not expect that. As a player, I don't think I remember seeing a crew of like eight or nine people just rolling around the field,

dapping people up, chatting with them. Pat, nice to meet you. Coach is doing all things. We are very thankful to ESPN, Omaha, and everybody that allowed us that access. And I think we try to do it. I feel like we try to do it to justice as well, the way we call it. We're definitely pros. Huge thank you to you for letting me be a part of that, man. It was awesome.

And for us, you know, obviously we were on our game day too. So we were there from the morning. And then you just kind of saw the building, you know, get more and more alive as the day went on. And as people started to file in, you just felt the kind of energy start to change. And then obviously the game was a great game from beginning to end also. And the boys, they killed it with the Fiesta Bowl to kind of start it off.

And that was good for us to kind of see them do it a little bit first and then get our own. But it was unbelievable to be on the field. Literally, you know, me and Connor, we're on that first touchdown. Like, we see it, like, literally develop it. We're watching Marvin. We see it. I hear kind of, oh, oh, oh.

It was an amazing experience. And hopefully this TCU-Georgia game can be a great game as well. At the Fiesta Bowl, the boys were telling us that the TCU fans were loud. The TCU fans were bananas. The Michigan fans, I think they were expecting, obviously, to win, and they started getting blown out early. So it could have taken the energy out of there, even though the game ended up being what it was towards the end there.

But they said the TCU fans were very loud. And I'd like to report from my voice you can hear it i literally lost 85 of my voice on sunday when i woke up in pasadena in a building that was built in 1909 jesus wow 1909 the building we're in california i think yeah back in i think the gold rush was a long time ago. 1849. But anyways, I lost my voice. I was screaming because of how loud. Yeah.

Yeah. Gold rush, 49ers. Learn something new every day. Yeah. That's where it supposedly was. But a lot of people, obviously, they settled. Didn't make it all the way. That's why they were the settlers.

Settlers. Like, for instance. What's that? It's an idiot saying that. I don't know. Those who settled in Phoenix seem to have worked out. Yeah, they got a little voc that? It's an idiot. I don't know. Those who settled in Phoenix seem to do a great job. Yeah, they get a little vocation. It works out okay.

There's a lot of different cities across the country that people are like, I ain't fucking going anymore. This one's fine. This one's good. We're going to set up here, and it ended up being a great city. So I understand that. But, yeah, that's why they went all the way out there. Anyways, I woke up, had no voice.

The Georgia fans were fucking loud. Did you expect that from the Georgia? I don't know what I expected. And on the field, you're hearing, had no voice. The Georgia fans were fucking loud. Did you expect that from the Georgia? I don't know what I expected. And on the field, you're hearing, they're literally screaming at you. Ohio State fans showed up, too. Definitely. Well, Ohio State fans are, I mean, it was in Atlanta. And if you're the number one seed, you get preferential treatment on location for the semifinals.

That's a part of it. So it's going to be a home atmosphere for georgia georgia i knew the ohio state fucks were going to be loud right we kind of knew that but the georgia fans i don't think i expected them to be as active the entire time as they were especially like they could get kind of used to it right yeah national champions we've been here when ohio state is making that a fucking fight early georgia fans could have easily been like these guys suck. Instead, it wasn't like that at all.

It was, they were real. So if TCU does that, Georgia does that. I know SoFi Field is a canopy in their space to kind of get out. I think it's going to be a good environment, which is normally a corporate environment, right? These national championships and Super Bowls. I think Monday could be awesome. Don't you think, especially being in L.A.,

it has the feel of it could be a corporate situation, but I feel like with TCU and how special it is for them to get there. And they got money, too, I think Monday could be awesome. Don't you think, especially being in L.A., it has the feel of it could be a corporate situation. But I feel like with TCU and how special it is for them to get there. And they got money, too, I think. I think TCU people got money. So does Georgia. No question. Georgia, this is the standard for them. So I feel like, yeah, they're going to travel and they're going to be very, very loud.

And we mentioned on the broadcast multiple times, like, both offenses were dealing with away crowds. Like, both offenses, there was a ton of noise. They probably had to go silent count mostly the whole game. I just wonder if SoFi is going to be the same field. I don't know. I think it could be. It's hard to get there. Georgia's known as being a pretty

sophisticated bunch even though there is, but I think jobs that come out of Georgia are high paying jobs. A lot of khakis. Yeah. A lot of khakis. Not that that is necessarily an indicator of that type of thing, but pretty good, pretty good, pretty good stereotype to say. A lot of khakis, croquis around the glasses.

We know exactly who we're talking about. Love their dogs. Oh, yeah. Just as much as anybody else. They love their dogs. And I got, I got i got another respect for it it ain't george's fault that their education and jobs they get afterwards are high profile jobs they don't act like that i don't think not that in my experience at least and in tcu i've heard they got fucking cake like it costs real money so for a an la super bowl

that it does cost a lot to get to, a lot of time to get to. Travel isn't easy right now. I believe these are maybe the two fan bases that it's a good thing that they are a part of it. TCU will definitely travel. We experienced it last year at last year's national championship. There was more Georgia fans than there was Bama fans. And it's that situation where it's like Bama's like, oh, we'll just go to the next national championship.

That was an Indy. Yeah, now that Georgia's done it two years in a row, do you think there'll be less Georgia fans this year or more? After what we saw at the college football, I wish you would have been there. Tony's been my professor all year for college football, and those college football playoffs are like college football festival. Yeah. It felt like, I don't know what it was like in Phoenix,

and they should think about having it. Stacked in the same same back-to-back days maybe or like i don't know the same because you could do noon and then the night game they should think about don't they want to spread it out crazy yeah well they want to spread it out though yeah well they have to give like fiesta bowl and like those are going to change i think who's getting it so you're trying to show love to all the big ones, but just as somebody that has seen a WrestleMania that has shows on three days and how the Super Bowl was set up. College basketball Final Fours that way.

If they were to be in the same city one day and the next day, that festival would be. Maybe when they go to 12. When they go to 12, they should do something like that. Yeah, maybe it's like. Well, they have home games when they go to 12, right? First round home games. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right. Good reminder there.

Whatever the case, we're thankful to be a part of it. We think we're through the logistical nightmare that I put onto us because I didn't think about it going forward, which also takes me back to Monday. I understand I'm supposed to think ahead, especially when we've got a lot of things on the horizon. We're very lucky to be doing that. That is a weakness of mine. That is a flaw of mine. I enjoy this moment right now. Okay. So like where we are, I want to pour everything into.

I want my investment in the time. I want to be where my feet are. I want to listen and take in everything that's happening right now. And then wherever I go next or whatever I do next, I'm doing that same exact thing everywhere I'm at. And then, hey, do you want to do this? Two weeks from now, this will be happening. I think that seems like a fun thing. I asked the boys, do we want to do blah, blah, blah. We we have an open discussion there might be some disagreement my votes worth two which is sweet and then we just kind of we kind of go through it all

you know and I've missed on those two votes have gone the wrong direction before and I have talked about it and it has been something we've chatted about behind the scenes you know but whenever we we do that it's always like yeah that would be cool and then whenever it's time to get to that then we're fully invested into it you know so it's that is a flaw of mine once again i do say though i am a checkers player i am not a chess player always played checkers

okay i'm trying to whatever's in front of me let's go and then hoping to get fucking kinged and then i guess i'll just come back you know like that is how i operate the show was affected by that potential mindset on monday because offered an opportunity to do game day at rose bowl didn't have to do it didn't have to do it because it is during the week sometimes didn't want it to affect the the daily show that we have whenever i had said negotiation to figure this whole game day thing out because at that point i don't think i fully understood college football as much and everything about college football i just wanted i also had in there not going to production meetings on friday either because it affects the show but then i go

to production meeting and i'm like you know what i'm lucky to be here i enjoy this production meeting i'm learning a lot in these production meetings and we adjust the show okay aj will come i'll head in from there we figure that out on the fly though like days before the first game day like that is days before so rose bowl hadn't been in my brain literally since negotiation in my mindset since negotiation with espn to just get off the field with fucking the peach bowl yeah vastly different than where they were so i just assumed rose bowl sweet it'll be the same setup as like a production day we'll run game day nine to noon as normal i'll find a place at the rose Bowl to just do the show from. We'll do the show. We'll overreact. We'll get through it. Then I'll fly home or whatever. Show was not nine to noon.

Show was 10 to one over there. Rose Bowl is like the hardest fucking thing to get into in the world. It's 10 different checkpoints getting in there. So I was like, I'll just do the show from there. That there's no way that was going to take place. So it was just plain ignorance on my end that we missed the show on Monday, and I do apologize for that. It was very cool to get to experience the Rose Bowl, to experience game day, but it did affect this show, and that's something I said I'd never do. So I apologize for that.

We did get to have an overreaction Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, we thought, on the other end that was thought on on saturday uh yeah i believe saturday dinner maybe sunday sunday that was decided upon so like gotta grow in that area just like what led to this morning us being like oh who's getting a credential where are we staying what it's monday oh people have been planning a year for this yeah credentials cameras who's, who's sitting where, everything. And we literally just thought about it yesterday into this morning. We think we have it figured out.

Big thanks to fucking everybody for that. And I apologize for fucking it up on Monday. Well, your two votes really haven't steered us astray at any point. But also when you think about being in the moment, I feel like that's kind of why this show is successful because all we think about really is the next show and then when you also think about how we do the show when we were doing the watch along or the alternate cast mega casts at the uh national or the college football playoff there really wasn't any time where it's like man this is really long like this show kind of prepares you for how that goes so that's why i feel like it's kind of changed like the view on those type of watch

alongs especially with some of the other ones we've done where it's like hey this is going to be a four-hour thing it's like well we go live for four hours most days anyway so like what's the difference here and the difference is well you get more breaks and there's more time for you to just kind of like sit around and that's why it's really not that big of a it's not that big of a change sure you can't say god damn and shit fuck all that shit but a couple of those on fiesta bowl had a couple of those on the old peach bowl did not hear about that from anybody no well i think kirk hertford helped set out with that because of his roll bowl flow thank you kirk love you kirk i do love kirk herbst he's the best dude he has his fucking name on a booth at the Rose Bowl.

That's wild. Yeah. How about that, AJ? Ohio, fuck. Kirk Herbstreit. Centerville, Ohio. Elk has his face and his family's name on the Rose Bowl, which is like the most Hollywood thing of all time.

I didn't learn that until right before the show goes live on game day, and I'm like, your name is on this? That is a fucking big deal. Kirk is awesome. He is, isn't he? He is college football. Yeah, he's a dog. What'd you say, D?

I said, been able to steal his little pregame sheet to help him prepare. I promise you one thing. I will know more names. Yes, me too. This upcoming game. Yeah, me too. I did an old, oh, look at us. That was a great catch there. 22. That was tough. Yeah, me too. I did an old, oh, look at us. That was a great catch there.

22. That was tough. AJ, what are your thoughts on? It is hard to identify numbers when you're down low like that sometimes. Well, and also we're on camera. Yeah, you can't really. Hold on. Three people with the same jersey number.

I saw dudes literally coming out of a field goal, taking a jersey off that didn't have a name on the back. Why did you say that? That's why we're on the sideline. A lot of shit going on. Darius, why are we... That is literally... I mean, it wasn't... That is why we're on the sideline. I don't think it's very relevant to the game, but... AJ,

did you see this and you just decided, what are we doing here? I didn't see it. I knew there was double, triple numbers for everybody. You guys were on the other sideline. What do you mean? He was on the other sideline mostly. Yeah, it might have been a different operation for their squad than the squad we were covering. To D-Butt's point about getting to watch the Fiesta Bowl,

they were moving way too much. Way too much. Way too much. Early. They were sprinting down every drive because there were so many touchdowns, so they kept moving to whatever end zone. Why were they laying on top of each other? Did we ever figure that out?

Good angle. Well, so we did hear that whole story. Great TV they did. Great TV by them. But? Well, so, we did hear that whole story. Great TV they did. Great TV by them. But, yeah, I'm just curious. I don't know about TV. Still shot.

Great still shot. Yeah, great meme photo. Great still shot. Yeah, right here. Perfect. Thank you. Great meme. When your scramble team was trying to line up the birdie pot after seven beers each and everyone's all going a different way.

I mean, there was like a hundred of these. So, I love it. Everything about it. We learned the story from AQ because we did wonder how he ended up being the big spoon on old Cole Kublik. How did that all take place? Well, we were told, and there might be some differing tales amongst the four men there. Cole said, let's get Don in here and cover this thing, you know? And I love that.

Cole did that. So Cole lays down. Taylor lays down next to Cole. AQ, eyeballing the scene, says, we don't need to go three wide here. That would be way too wide. I said, did you think about laying in between them? And he goes, could have done that, could have done that. I just thought getting on the back of Cole, that was hilarious.

And I was like, good call. Look at AQ. Yeah, AQ. Look at AQ doing there. And then RG3 kind of planking on the opposite side, a little hamstring core workout. I thought they did a great job. I thought they did a fantastic.

Big thanks to these dudes for doing that. Oh, yeah. Woo! Big thanks to these dudes for doing that and having the time of their life. And I think RG3 wrote Labor, right? Yeah. Yeah. Well, his wife posted on Instagram and said, like, it must have gotten lost in the shuffle.

Yeah, like she mentioned labor, and he thought she was going to labor, and she said he didn't. So what happened in real time, we weren't there. Obviously, we weren't there. We were in Georgia. Post game group text from them, from me to them. Yeah. Massive piece of it was congratulating baby. Bob, yeah.

So she, what did you she posted on instagram we got the same agent so i'll text agent hey rg3 man good energy to my wife yeah then he was on the cotton ball the next day exactly he hopped on a flight immediately because when she called him he heard labor and he thought that she was saying i'm going into into labor. Oh, because it was so loud. It was really like class miscommunication. Yeah, it was miscommunication, but he ended up just going back anyways because he thought that was going on, but it hasn't happened yet. With everybody's travel issues happening right now,

unbelievable effort by him being able to get home. Yeah, well, I mean, he was flying. Did you see him running out on his day? He still has it. He can roll. Man, he can run. That dude can run. Sprinting. Yeah, he beat a hawk. Yeah. That's right? He still has it. He can roll. Man, he can run. That dude can run. Sprinting.

Yeah, he beat a hawk. Yeah. That's right. I forgot about that. He did. He beat a hawk. Yeah. But I think, to your point, he did fly southwest, and they're canceling 2,000, 2,500 flights a day.

So it is crazy that he got lucky enough to get on one of those birds back home. Yeah. This is like when Mrs. McAllisterallister bingo in chicago airport yeah that's right did he hop in the back of a uh polka polka polka polka i'm excited to hear how that all went down how that worked uh but nonetheless thank you to them for oh yeah for doing their – bringing their energy and crushing it. Fucking shout out to them. Helped us too with a bunch of stuff while we were watching.

And I did let them know that – yeah, I wonder, like, what if RG3 was just fucking – because if he runs to the airport and they got no flights, is he potentially doing this? Yep. Yeah. There was people living in airports, right, for like two weeks or whatever? Oh, yeah.

There were people in the Denver airport after that on Christmas, after that weekend when it was the flash freeze spoof. They were in the airport in Denver. No, it wasn't. Some places got hit real, real hard. For sure. Yeah, okay. But they were in the airport in Denver until Thursday. Yeah, for like four days.

There were bags stacked up to the ceiling next to bags. Could you imagine being at that airport? You just slept there for the last couple days or whatever not able to get in or out and you're watching TV and you're watching ESPN2 in the airport and then all of a sudden you look to your right, RG3 weren't you just... What the fuck?

What are you doing here? How'd you get here? And then he just hops on. Yeah, he takes your seat on the next flight. Well, if he did we would thank him but also I would not have asked him to do it if i knew that there was a potential birth happening sure especially with my wife being pregnant right now so like i understand everything that's potentially going on in his world i wish there was a little bit more communication with me you know like because you know i reach out

hey did the cot but he got where'd he fly home and then he got to the cotton bowl the next day though he lives in in Texas, right? I assume that's where it goes. Yeah. I believe he lives right near it. Makes sense. But anyways, I felt like an asshole. Like, immediately upon, oh, my God.

They're even, why would I even ask? Should I have known this, too? Like, follow up. I should have known that this was happening. But everything seemed to work out. He probably didn't know. Huh? He probably didn't know.

Because, you know, it's a window where it could happen anytime. Dude, you don't know. It is. Might have been unexpected for him. This whole pregnancy thing is wild. Yeah. It could come early,

come late. You never know when the kid's coming usually. Dude. What? Mine was three weeks early fucking out of nowhere. Yeah.

And then every once in a while I'll Google about it and that's not the right move. Dude. The amount of things I'll read. Stay off Google. Stay off when you're about to have your kid. You fucking stay off Google.

I'm like, I don't need to learn anything else, I don't think. It's like WebMD, and when you have an upset stomach. Yeah, I lost like 15 pounds because of Google. See, that's what I'm saying. I'm starting to do that. I'm on that plane back from the Rose Bowl. Just like can't fall asleep, obviously. Why wouldn't you, brain, you fucking piece of shit?

You know what I mean? Couldn't do it, though. So I'm just sitting there, and I go like, all right, what are some things I should expect here, you know, over the next couple as we hit this new stage? Should expect all the worst things of all time, I guess. You know that. I'm sitting at 45,000 feet or whatever,

going through a pretty good amount of turbulence reading through this going in my, Oh my God, should I? Oh my God. And I just put the phone down, shut the, shut the windows. And I sat like this for a good hour, hour and a half. Fuck this. I was, I was, anyways, thank you to everybody, especially to all the folks that allowed the Megacast to happen on Saturday. We didn't get to talk about it much there because I fucked up with the whole Rose Bowl situation. But, like, we can't wait for L.A.

And thank you, college football. Thank you, college football. For this season and for the performances. That was one of the greatest days of football of all time. A.J., time to dive into today's NFL news. Time to dive into today's NFL news. The Buffalo Bills have released a statement on DeMar and his current condition. The Buffalo Bills have tweeted, DeMar remains in the ICU in critical condition with signs of improvement noted yesterday and overnight. He is expected to remain under intensive care as his health care team continues to monitor and treat him.

This has been a similar message from everybody. And in 2022, I would like to say that I'm appreciative of that. Because in 2022, everybody seems to be trying to get clout. The University of Cincinnati's health medical center, somebody in there, nurse, doctor, anybody with this story and how big it is, could attempt to gain clout by leaking information that is of like, I don't want to say substance, but more than what we have heard as being kind of, and nobody has done it. I think that's fucking awesome. I think that is an incredible thing thing the respect of the privacy of the family

and the respect of the human that is demar and what he's going through i appreciate that because every message has seemingly been even jordan rooney when he comes on seemingly same message it's like everybody kind of wants to just kind of wait this out seems to be positive but we haven't got real substantial evidence that's going to be positive, other than vibes are going positive yet. Who knows what's actually happening, but I appreciate that we haven't heard anything, if that makes sense to you. And that's good, because especially

when it's medical things, you've got non-medical people kicking it to other non-medical people, and everybody's kind of on edge, waiting to hear some positive news, so it sounds like it's trending in the right direction obviously you know everybody this this shook everybody you know players you know i'm much differently but this is this is some scary scary shit former

players and shannon sharp opened up with it and obviously that became a whole thing because they kind of bickered but they do that that's the show that's the show that's the show so i mean that's literally what they do on disputed i'm a massive shannon sharp fan it's incredible that shannon hasn't slapped the shit out i know well but i think he knows that's the job right like they that they i love shannon i love shannon sharp i'm a massive shannon sharp fan on the field how he acted, what he does on TV, how he goes about it. Julio Jones thing. It's tough.

Kind of fucked up. Not good, yeah. But I do appreciate Shannon Sharp. The way he talked about how it affected him, right, and he played a long time, I don't want to say a long time ago, but a longer time ago, it was the same exact feelings as, like, we all were kind of feeling yesterday about how, like, yo, this fucked me up and aj you i don't want to say you're a um i don't know because we saw some emotion there at

the end yeah of that i'm definitely very emotional person blocked off emotionally with your family with your kids everything like i understand you i don't have big react i don't tend to have big like outward reactions to things bingo we saw a little there, and we're happy to see it, by the way. It was nice to see that the face of Ohio State still has a massive amount of love. You were getting a little... Invested. Choked up. There was a devastated A.J. Hawk there.

A huge takeaway from the weekend. We actually chatted about it. I mean, that was a devastating loss for Ohio State. Being there on the field when you feel like you had it, yeah. That affects you. Yeah. Well, it was nice to know that it does affect you. Because we'll say 0-8.

You'll leave the ducks on the pond. Anytime we start talking about it, you always try to deflect. You know, you're big. So watching you really lose it almost a little bit to the Georgia Ohio State. That was cool. Way to go, AJ. Need more of that, AJ. Believe this. Proud of you, AJ. And I think Ohio State fans are obviously cool, wasn't it? Way to go, AJ. Need more of that, AJ. Believe this.

Proud of you, AJ. And I think Ohio State fans are obviously pumped about that. But Ohio knows you. You're an Ohio fuck. They know exactly what they're getting. That thing really – I felt like so many emotions. I would not have expected to feel in that moment. Why do you think all former players are doing that? And I think I asked yesterday, but honestly, as the days roll on here,

why do you think that happened? I mean, I think normally if someone's getting carted off or someone has a terrible injury, which I've yesterday, but honestly, as the days roll on here, why do you think that happened? I mean, I think normally if someone's getting carted off or someone has a terrible injury, which I've been on the field, Aaron mentioned it, where guys hurt their neck, you're worried, like, oh, is this guy going to be paralyzed? Is he going to be able to play again? All of that, you're not questioning, is he going to live? And this is a time when DeMar's down there and everyone,

they see all the personnel, I think, scrambling. You see, like, everyone going in, like like, oh my goodness, this is for real. Like there's not a second we can waste. Like they're working on this guy and we're trying to keep him alive. Like that's, I think what hit everybody hard. Like this is different. This is way different than just a football injury that may affect how this guy may walk 10 years from now.

Yeah. And then seeing the players reactions, you know what I mean? Cause you know, you've been around the game, you know what I mean? Never see that. You've been around the game, you know, for however long. If you're on that field, you've probably been around football probably 15, 20 years, and you've seen some bad shit happen. You always, when you come in that stadium, you always see the ambulance. You always see it.

You always know it's a possibility when you get on that knee before a game, if that's your thing, and you say that prayer. Usually, it's not really to win the game or, you know, to play well and to walk off the field. And like to A.J.'s point, when you see somebody not only doing that, but you know it's a real fight for their life, and then they're out of your vision, you don't know what's happening, you just see the ambulance sitting in the tunnel. Like it's just – it was so many emotions.

So many people reached out too, which was odd too, the people I haven't talked to in a while. But, you know, it just kind of showed you still that brotherhood, kind of that fraternity to see the coaches come together and make the decision they made. But it was wild, man, and it was so good to just hear any positive news because I feel like for a long time there, what seemed like forever, we were just waiting to hear like, hey, he's breathing, he's alive.

Because at that point, it was like, yo, did we just see somebody die on the field? And that was the scariest moment because nobody, you don't really sign up for that. Yeah, we all had our, everybody felt as if we had just watched somebody pass away on Monday Night Football for a routine, routine tackle, which I think makes it even more grand for people who have a lot of friends that play football or even have played football. I thought thought about like man that could have happened to fucking i mean this guy oh yeah obviously any this guy could have happened to that big round fuck that talks about offensive

line it could have happened to him any literally any play there's like that type of stuff happening so i think all those emotions really kicked in. And it seems like every former player feels the exact same way. And I think that's why it's being chatted about so much. We will await more news out of the medical center. We are getting news out of the Cincinnati Bengals camp. Zach Taylor had a press conference and spoke to the team or spoke to the media for the first time since the entire DeMar Hamlin CPR event took place.

The scare followers reporting that Zach Taylor said he could see how concerned the Bills players were in the moment after DeMar Hamlin went down, which is kind of what Darius's point was. We've all seen a lot of stuff. Whenever you see everybody crying, basically, you know it's something very real. It says Sean McDermott told him shortly thereafter, I need to be at the hospital for DeMar. I shouldn't be coaching this game. That, to me, provided all the clarity.

More from Zach Taylor, I really felt Sean McDermott led in that moment. He was there for his players. He processed it the right way, which was incredibly difficult and really helped us get to the solution we needed to get to. Because this is in reference to the fact that there was a five-minute statement made by somebody. Numerous people are now reporting that a five-minute statement was made by somebody because that's the standard protocol when an injury takes place or when somebody has to get carted off the field after a certain amount of time, whatever the case is. So Troy Vincent,

who's the vice president of the NFL, said that didn't come from us. We were trying to figure out everything else at the time. It came from somebody on the field. John Perry, who's the rules expert for the Monday Night Football booth, he said he was told it by a league executive. He's the one that relayed the message to Joe Buck. Joe Buck was then the one that mentioned it. Then they showed Joe Burrow throwing the rock. Then the story was that Zach Taylor, even after, and Stephon Diggs gave a motivational speech on the other side,

Zach Taylor goes over to McDermott and says, like, we shouldn't play or whatever because he walked over to the Bills side. What Zach Taylor was saying happened was, this is McDermott saying, I can't coach right now. This isn't it. But I do love the fact that Zach Taylor is like, whoa, whoa, whoa, I'm getting a lot of credit for this. McDermott was the one that was like, this is not for me, for my guys. I got to be at the hospital. Although I think Zach Taylor should get some credit that he felt it was a necessity to walk

over there and be like hey what are we doing both of those coaches showed incredible class and McDermott is continuing to showcase that there's no leadership for dummies books that you can read yeah that would put you into being able to handle this situation properly but like you have got to be one of the greatest leaders going yeah to be able to handle this situation with your team paul daner jr is reporting to zach taylor i do not feel any directive that guys needed to start warming up there was no push for anything to happen so joe burrow might have been warming up that was probably the guys though you know because the the other part about it's kind of fucked up is we're programmed to, hey, at some point we've got to go and finish and win this big game.

You know what I mean? And obviously that was something that most of us have never seen happen. But I'm sure in the back, at some point, maybe those players, all right, at some point we're going to have to go. And the quarterback, you know, hey, let me start throwing, let me start warming up just in case. So a lot of people were throwing fault, you know fault at the NFL or at the broadcast or anybody. I think everybody was just put in a super fucked up position because of what happened. And you can't really fault anybody for how you act in that moment. Even for the NFL office because that's obviously a multi-billion dollar league.

So you think from a business standpoint, we've got to get this game going at some point. But I think everybody made the right decision in that moment. The guys after the game, RC, Van Pelt, Lisa Salters, because I was just locked in on the coverage. Booger. We all were. Booger, Sheff, everybody. Scott Van Pelt afterwards. Yeah, Van Pelt and RC in that moment.

That was unbelievable, especially for that situation. So shout out to those guys and gals, too. Absolutely. And I think the media has gotten a lot of – that coverage has gotten a lot of – Aaron, I don't think I've ever heard him compliment. Yeah. Never. Any media person ever.

Nope. Have you? I don't think. I'm sure there's people out there. No, no, he loves – remember, he loves his crew. He talks about EA. He'm sure there's people out there. No, no, he loves Joe. Remember, he loves his crew. He talks about EA. He does talk about some people.

But as a whole, he talks about ESPN as a whole. ESPN's coverage of the NFL, definitely not. He was like, that was, I think we all took that away because sitting at home, I was like, what would I do? Yes. That was the first thought. I am not the human. I'm thankful that I am not in this situation right here because you're kind of driving how the world now is feeling.

And that five-minute thing that was relayed to John Perry allegedly, John Perry to Joe Buck, that was really the only thing that needed to be said for everybody to start going, this NFL, because the NFL is big business, they will do that in practices. You tear your ACL, we're moving practice five yards. We're going to get these periods in while we got sunshine. You can figure out your knee, and it's that type of business always has been. Piece of gum, you chew until your flavor runs out, and then they'll take it,

they'll throw it out, there's another one coming. That is the reality of the NFL. They move on. We move on. We move on. We move on. But I don't think the NFL ever had intentions of moving on with that game. I think the Bills and the Bengals were told by the NFL much earlier than the public was that that game was going to be – we are not playing the game going forward.

But I do think somebody at the NFL should have told the public that quicker. As soon as that five-minute comes out, I think there should have been somebody that's like, hey, this is a much different situation than torn ACL. The NFL feels that way. Can you please relay that message? As soon as they decide we're not playing this game, I think somebody from the NFL should have told fucking somebody at ESPN, hey, we are not, this game is,

we're either postponing it or canceling it. We don't know which one we're doing yet, but we know it's not going to happen tonight. I think that should have happened because, especially in the world we live in now, the entire world is watching. Oh, yeah. And everybody has the capability to do this. And 10 seconds is an eternity on the Internet, let alone 9 minutes, let alone 25 minutes, 35 minutes, let alone an hour. let alone 25 minutes, 35 minutes, and out, let alone an hour.

So I think they should have cut that off a little bit quicker so that everybody understands their actual position, which feels like they were genuinely concerned. The NFL doesn't want one of their players to die on prime time on the field. I don't think the NFL wants that either. So I think the NFL fucks up. We've pointed it out. Fuck, we started a new league, the Paffle. This year because I thought the NFL fucked up and has fucked up. And we're players so we know

that the NFL has certainly made decisions that they regret and they've tried to fix it and everything like that. But I thought they were getting I thought they were taking, other than not telling people quicker I think what the NFL did is probably the best in that situation you could do as well. I don't know what else they could have done differently. Well, I think the most important thing the NFL has done is that they make these and they direct the trainers and all the doctors to do all this training all throughout the year when something like this happens. I mean, you saw how many people are

out there working on them. Like, that's what's pretty amazing is all these trainers and doctors are out there, you know, I mean, basically saving people's lives on the field and the NFL. I don't know what their directives are, what they have to, like, check off to make sure they all get certified and they recertify, but that's what was very impressive to me. Okay, NFL Executive Vice President Troy Vincent speaking. When was this? Tom Pellicero is reporting this right now.

There was only one policy in practice that mattered that evening, and that was the emergency action planned by those first responders. So it was executed to perfection, and it gave our brother DeMar another day to live. What they are referring to is this is a practiced routine that happens in the NFL to work on the field, emergency cardiac situation, the paddles, the CPR. It is a practiced thing. I don't know how often they practice it, but from the sounds of what Goodell said yesterday and what Troy Vincent's saying right now,

this sounds like them saying there's a reason we do it because there's probably a lot of people that are pissed off about having to fucking practice running onto the field in the middle of the day and doing it. Incredible execution by everybody. He says that gave our brother DeMar another day to live. Troy Vincent on the five-minute return to play issue. I just want to be clear, just that suggestion alone was inappropriate.

It was insensitive, and frankly, it lacked both empathy and compassion for DeMar's situation, who was still in the woods and fighting for his life that day. Do we have more quotes from that? It's coming out. That was like two minutes ago. So that's live right now. So somebody's obviously going to ask. Yeah.

Who? Well, who? Who did that then? Because I think they're standing by it. They got word right yes john perry did espn release that they were told from nfl officials that they're going to do that uh nfl chief medical officers via tom palacero dr alan sill says it's not an exaggeration to say that the skilled and immediate response by all these talented caregivers present prevented a tragic outcome at that moment. Sill says he doesn't want to address the cause of Camlin going into cardiac arrest pending further investigation.

But Comodio Cordes, Comodio Cordes certainly is possible regardless of cause. Emphasizes rapid response is key in an event like this. Okay, Hamlin remains in critical condition. So it is amazing if what we're hearing, the positive vibes out of the University of Cincinnati Medical Center, I did not know a human could have to receive CPR for nine minutes. That's a long time, I think, for nine minutes and potentially live. I had no idea that that was even, I had no idea that that's possible. And I think that's what we're all thinking as we're watching it. There's certainly a thought like nine minutes of CPR, that seems to be way too long. And then your brain starts going like, well, that means no oxygen was,

was no oxygen. If no oxygen is getting your, I've always been told if no oxygen gets your brain, there's potential brain fog. Like there's just so many things you start thinking about. So the response getting there as quickly as they did, administering it as quickly as they did, getting them out of there, I think it should be something that is applauded, complimented, and a huge ordeal. So I'm happy that Dr. Alan Sills is like, hey, that's my team basically out there. That's what Alan Sills is saying. I'm the one that had to implement these practices and these things. That's my team.

I'm incredibly proud of them. I think that's a good move from a leadership position in the nfl as well yeah so i mean it saves his life for sure you know we'll see what happens and everything but like if if they didn't act the way they did and if they weren't you know on the ball and know what they were doing like there's a very good chance that he dies on the field uh nfl executive vice president jeff miller who i've never heard of nope with this me either evp though means he's a troy vincent level right troy vincent has say yeah so we'd assume jeff miller has some say says there's been no decision on whether to resume bill's bangles game at a later date we'll consult

with the clubs involved decision in the coming days that conversation about what we do with that game has begun okay so now we're trying to figure it out i don't know how this late in the season i don't know what the right answer is for Jeff Miller. I think you just void it. It sucks for the Bills. I don't know how you – I've heard people talk about scenarios like bumping things back, all that. I don't know how that would work.

Sucks for the Bills, but the Bills are – hopefully hear good news about their teammate, and they can understand that this is an outlying situation that could have never been expected. They win their number one seed there against the Bengals. So they were certainly in it. Chiefs, nobody at the Chiefs saw DeMar Hamlin's injury and thought this is anywhere near okay.

Everybody was devastated over there. But the Chiefs might benefit from them having to avoid the game. And I don't know what other answer there is. I don't know how they put another game in. I don't know when they would. I don't know how you even. At this stage, I don't know how you do it. Yeah, that would be more, regardless of where you see it,

I feel like that would be more of a disadvantage. You'd be playing an extra game that close to playoffs. Yeah, I'm with you as far as voiding it. It's just a situation that nobody expected to ever deal with. And you're dealing with humans. Yeah. So there's always going to have to be change. I understand there's bylaws and this and this and so many asterisks.

Yeah. And so many different rule books and contracts. I understand that. But when you're talking about a human situation and having to adapt and having to get by, and this is the checkers. This is the checkers, is the checkers like handling this situation how do we how do we get past this current very traumatic situation in the best possible way we will be judged looking back upon it but the people that are judging us 10 years from now

had no idea what it was like in the moment and what the world was so we just have to be firm on our conviction that this is the move put it behind and just move on and i think the nfl has proven that they can't do that have they fucked it up yes will they get this right i think they will and i think the right answer is to not have the game happen but what the fuck do i know i'm in a tank top talking about sports every day yeah well i mean it's a lose-lose situation and even the people 10 years from now like this is kind of reset the bar as like the worst possible scenario on a football field by far like before it didn't seem like this could

even happen and now that it has in 10 years they'll probably still look back at this moment and remember hey if this were to ever happen this is kind of how you go about it because they have handled it as best as they could okay so we will continue to learn more about it all, hopefully. Jeff speaking. Troy speaking. We assume Gidella will speak. Zach Taylor spoke. McDermott, maybe? Yeah.

Maybe. Their meeting got canceled. Yeah, not today. They're not doing a meeting today. For the team, right? And we can't reiterate this enough. When you watch Sean McDermott right now talk in every step he takes from Monday on you're watching a leader like you're watching somebody who's in a very difficult situation

that there is no blueprint for there is no Oregon trail to go upon he just has to figure out what the best move is at the right time. A lot to balance. A lot to balance. A life is happening. Relationships are happening. Job, his job's still happening. It is. Good luck out there, Coach McDermott.

Good luck. I do not envy that situation. I don't think we can take for granted the fact that both these coaches were humans in the moment and had empathy and sympathy. We know there's some coaches that I'm not saying they would have handled it differently. I'm sure they would have handled it differently, but they may not have been as open early on. Like, yeah, they got their blinders and all they know is football. All they think about is football.

They don't even understand, like, human interaction. We talked about that yesterday where that memo was sent out from Goodell about what happened. And we said there is coaches around the NFL that had no idea that that happened on Monday night football. You know why? Cause they were locked in their office at their facility, watching film on their next opponent for week 18. And they,

they don't come out of their cave until Tuesday or Wednesday or whatever it is. And when they read that memo, there was people on the NFL goes, what? Hey, did you hear going down the hall to the other fucker

that was living in his cave for the last 24 hours about what took place? You're right. Zach Taylor and McDermott showcased, that's good leadership though. Relationships are good leadership.

Being empathetic is good leader. I love. A good leader is a good leader all the time, not just sometimes. So much respect for Zach Taylor. I don't know if we've given him enough. You know, obviously at the beginning of his career,

thought he was maybe a terrible head coach. Yeah, a cup of coffee. Didn't have an indoor practice facility, had to. Why is that though? Is it because you thought he was just like, he was young? He looked so young? He was a part of that hiring process where it's like, hey, have you ever like had a vodka with Sean McVay?

Yeah. Boom. You're hired. You're a head with Sean McVay? Yeah. Boom. You're hired. You're a head coach. And then they were trash. Bad. And then Andy Dalton benching on his birthday after the trade deadline. I was like, oh, this guy sucks at coaching

and appears to have zero self-awareness for anything. And the Bengals were the Bengals at the time. They didn't have an indoor practice facility. They have a smaller scouting department than anybody. I thought there was a chance that Zach Taylor was like, I don't know what I signed up for. There was a conversation talking about Zach Taylor can suck as bad as he wants. He won't get fired because the Brown family doesn't want to have to pay him

and another coach. Like, that was happening. And then all of a sudden you get Joey Burrow in there, and then he gets hurt. And it's like, well, this guy can't protect the fucking guy. I mean, it was a lot. Exactly. Like, even us, we were definitely a part of that.

We didn't know who the fuck Zach Taylor was. We knew what the Bengals were for a long time, and we knew how they operate. And then it was just happening in front of us. We were like, this guy, fuck. Do we know Zach Taylor? He's a head coach in the NFL. I asked that numerous times. And then team buys in, turns around. They get an indoor facility. This guy fucked. Do we know Zach Taylor is a head coach in the NFL? I asked that numerous times.

And then team buys in, turns around. They get an indoor facility. He goes to the Super Bowl. It seems like everybody's going the same direction. It's like, damn, I am happy the Brown family couldn't fire him because they didn't want to pay anybody else. And they'll say it was patience, too. And he found his own. And then what he did on Monday, it's like, hey,

Zach Taylor, pretty fucking good football coach. And needs to be talked about a lot more I think by us and by everybody yeah almost him and McDermott similar situation like they both kind of took him a little but they established culture and then they completely turned the franchises around with those quarterbacks as well I'm probably gonna lose my voice again Monday night good chance bring the juice for sure I didn't know that was even possible me losing my voice now i'm a little bit more worried about the future you know well i don't even know i could lose my voice i heard you gotta add ginger to your uh diet so this is this is an interesting thing do i change anything up it's the first time it's ever happened in my entire life pretty much but i do a lot of talking a lot of yelling yelling, a lot. Like when I went to the WWE,

I assumed at some point the voice would feel something and maybe I changed an octave or whatever. Always there. Always there. After the Saturday night thing, I wake up Sunday in Pasadena and I'm like, Oh my God, am I sick? That's when I started thinking, am I sick? Is that why I lost my voice? And then everything feels, my body feels body feels perfect energized i'm ready to go and then i go to talk to somebody else oh my what just happened and then monday for the rose bowl game day i'm just chugging liquids just chugging and every single time towards the end of a segment no voice at all so i'm like i'm not talking all day monday i get in here yesterday i couldn't hear a thing i couldn't i couldn't speak a fucking word. Had to just chug a bunch of liquids. Monday night, I'm going to lose my voice again, aren't I?

No. I mean, this is a specific Georgia-Ohio State, two biggest Colts alive. That will probably be, what, the loudest type of college football game out there? I mean, maybe. Honestly, did they have the decibels rolling in there, you think? Have we heard anything? It was. Yeah, they had to, right? That was absurd. It was so fucking loud. honest i did they have the decibels rolling in there you think have we heard anything it was yeah they had to right that was absurd it was so fucking i was i've been in seattle right i was in

seattle for the niners game thursday night football a couple weeks ago and obviously the niners won that but the seahawks had a chance there late and when it was a third down i think and purdy was in the end zone yes i needed to have it he stepped in He stepped in and made the throw, by the way. It was loud in Seattle. And Seattle's built so, like, one yell is actually four yells because it's coming back. It is built to be loud. And I have respect for it.

And I was in the booth, so I wasn't on the field, so I wasn't getting everybody's direct yell like we were in Georgia. I feel like I've been a part of some loud. Atlanta was fucking loud. That was very, very loud down. That was one of the loudest environments I've ever been in. Oh, yeah. I think maybe the loudest I've ever been in. Very, very loud. You felt it

when you were on that field. I know those players, you saw the vibes on both sidelines, but being on that field in that environment, that was incredible. So loud. You're saying it's not going to be like, I think it will. No, I know. I think dome closed, and I think the national championship is a lot like the Super Bowl, where there's a lot of people who aren't fans of either team. Worried about that, but we talked about this earlier.

Georgia fans have money. TCU fans have money. Yeah, but the Super Bowl, and I might be wrong, don't corporations just have tickets and then they're given out? Super Bowl, yes. I think national championship as well. Yeah, that's what I mean. We've been dealing with that. I mean, we were all there.

It was loud last year, right? Well, I mean, the stadium, Lucasville, is not a loud stadium. I think it was loud. People were yelling. But we were up in the – we were in a very nice. Yes. But we were also by the cheapest seats in the place. I think the price is what drives away the atmosphere in a lot of these

situations, which is why my big takeaway is a lot of money in these alumni. So maybe that will be different this time. I don't know. Maybe. AJ, maybe. I mean, just out of the buildings that you're going to be in, SoFi isn't completely, you know, what do they call it, a canopy? So it's not completely closed so south can leak out.

It'll be tough. Yeah. We've got to hope for no lightning on Monday night. And Georgia's a little far away. You wonder how many of those fans will go. No tailgating out there either. And also, last year, Gump and I were as close to the field as you can be. We were right behind the Bama bench.

It wasn't even close to as loud as what Georgia was. Oh, yeah, you guys were dressed like assholes right behind that. Yeah, I had a Mac Jones. We're supporting Bama. And Vipers, right? Yes. I remember you guys down there. It wasn't, right?

It was not even close. No, it wasn't close to as loud as it was. There's also a difference when you're just there watching the game, and when you're there and you have earbuds in and you're trying to talk and be on TV. It's like, Jesus Christ. Normally, it's just like, holy shit, it's loud. But you're just there to enjoy the game. It's not like, oh, I have to like hear what these people are saying and like be able to respond and like it it made a big difference

it was loud there was sometimes where i took the earpiece out it didn't sound as loud i was like oh my mic is potentially amplifying picking everything what's going on in here so i turned it down and then i turned down i couldn't hear hear a word. You guys were saying. So it was quite a dilemma in there. There was definitely a time where I was just yelling. Had to. Right on TV. I was thinking about people listening and watching like, this guy's

just yelling at us this whole time. I thought about that while I was yelling. But if I didn't yell, I couldn't hear me. And there's no way you guys could hear it. It was a wild scene. I think it'll be good Monday. My vote? Loud. Connor, your vote?

Are we just saying loud in general, or in comparison to the standard last week? No, loud in general. I do not think it's going to be loud. In general? Think about the game that we were also at. The rollercoaster of emotion that the fans were on. There was times where their team was dominating,

and then one side of the fans were down. Early, it was Georgia. Then Ohio State starts to fall. The Georgia fans explode. And then it was just back and forth. They were able to rest. You're saying each fan base was able to rest with the way the game was structured. So when Georgia had pent-up energy, it was a good time

because their team was coming along at that exact exact time so we were getting their best shot yes then all of a sudden line change ohio state fans kind of put onto the bench a little bit take a breather here for 20 25 minutes or so your team's about to get fucking smacked by georgia real quick this whole game and then all of a sudden, Ohio State comes back, and it's like, ooh, 27 minutes. Ah! Maybe you're on to something. That's just what I think. And I pray that this game is close, and I also really hope that TCU wins.

I am more so saying that I don't think it's going to be loud because of the fact that that place isn't going to be entire TCU and Georgia fans like it was entirely Georgia and Ohio State fans. I think normally the corporate fans were all Georgia fans. Yes. At this last one. All the suites, because that's in Atlanta. All the companies that own those suites, they're all dogs. So it's like everybody was invested in the game. I guess you're right. But if there's lightning in that canopy, we saw it on what, Monday night?

Oh, yeah, football. Monday night football. You remember that, AJ? Had a delay. The brand new stadium in L.A. Why? Because there's lightning 10 miles away. Lightning.

We thought it was a dome. Then that's when we learned, no, this is the most expensive canopy of all time. Yeah, they put the LED board over top of it like a lean-to. Yep. Pretty much. It's like a lean-to on top of it. $6 billion. Come on. $ like a lean-to. Yep. Pretty much. It's like a lean-to on top of it. $6 billion. Come on.

$6 billion lean-to. Can't, can't, because there's lightning in the area. And sometimes that's on Biscuit Street sideways. Come in the canopy. That's right. Down on the field. Oh. They're like 40 minutes.

Oh, yeah. It's supposed to rain this weekend in L.A., right? Mm-hmm. Tony said bomb cyclone. I think it, I don't know if it's happening today or whatever or this weekend, but I looked. I don't know if they're supposed to be raining this weekend. I don't know what that Tony said bomb cyclone. I don't know if that's happening today or whatever or this weekend, but I looked. There's supposed to be a random this weekend. I don't know what that means.

Bomb cyclone. An atmospheric river. I don't know what any of those mean either. And rivers flow this way, which is not good. I'm a big weather guy. Rivers do flow this way, but it's coming from the sky, so it's coming this way, right? Right.

I hope. I don't know. Just keep the lightning. Once again, we've talked about this. Somebody needs to figure out how to corral lightning and utilize it as our power. Exactly. Well, they did that with the key. No, they found out that they could.

And I understand they put lightning rods up. We have a friend that is one of the greatest lightning rod salesmen of all time. That's just keeping it away from other places. We need to corral that son of a bitch we need to get that lightning in we are naked choke it and then start sending it out so we don't lose power three times on a wednesday in indianapolis you know what i mean yes i do put one on the roof of this place i would like to corral it though at the very least so far should be running on 100% purely sustainable lightning. Are we not worrying about the future?

We've been letting this lightning go to waste for how long? Hundreds of years. I just heard that over there in Saudi Arabia, they're going to spend a couple hundred billion to make a ski resort in the middle of the desert. I assume it's going to be a very nice ski resort. Can we not spend a couple hundred billion to figure out how to fucking power the world with lightning can we not figure that we got fucking water

running on those uh windmills windmill things to generate power we got those big things out in the middle of farms and i'm sure they're mixed reports coming from those that are just slicing birds' faces off. Which are they real or not, we don't know. How come we don't have anybody working on capturing the lightning and using all that power? Something to think about. It snows in Saudi Arabia?

While we're at it, let's work on that supergrass. That's a couple hundred billion. Supergrass for sure. We need to make that happen. I think if you harness lightning, though, you have the most power of anyone in the world. Yeah, that's what we're saying. Big energy wouldn't let that happen. And if you're harnessing lightning, then none of us have to worry about dying from it either, right?

Because everybody's got it under control. Yeah, exactly. Unless you want to take someone out. What's going on, AJ? What's so funny? They're going to redirect. All the lightning that happens in the world, they just suck it up and use it for energy for us. Suck it up.

Suck up the lightning. Suck it up. This sounds amazing. I can't wait until this happens. You'll be Zeus. It's going to look like a fucking massive glass Coke bottle on top of SoFi. That's what I'm saying. It would have to be metal, I guess, right?

Because that is what we have learned. Metal does attract. That's easy. It is a conductor. I was just thinking purely aesthetic. They could just put a bunch of sand on top of SoFi because when lightning hits strike sand, it just adds more glass to SoFi.

Oh, because it would cook it, you're saying. They do rubber. You ever seen lightning strike sand? How come humans try to take advantage of literally everything else that is presented? Literally everything else. Except for lightning. What's that all about?

They say it's very unpredictable. The stadium could be a one massive Nike shoe because they have a rubber insole. Yeah, if you put the bottom of that massive Coke bottle as rubber. Or if you build the entire stadium on rubber, you don't have to get it. That's grounding something. That's not collecting? That's not going to work. I thought that's where it goes.

That's why being in a car is the safest place to be during a lightning. Because it goes to the wheels, right? And then you put SoFi on wheels. But I just want to do this. Yeah, exactly. Boom. You know,

like Ghostbusters. How come we can't do that? Yeah, those are sweet. Pretty simple. Then we got to store that power somewhere too. What do you mean? Oh, we don't have those?

We don't have places we can put it? Well, actually, a guy starts shooting at one. And then it falls into the wrong hands. What about that

massive atom collider? All right, let's move on. We talk too much about the future. We're trying to save it and it's anybody else. Does anyone care? I think it's in Germany.

Elon will figure it out. Willie. He's got to figure out Twitter name. Vogue's do probably. And his truck. You saw the Cybertruck? When's that coming out?

So it came out recently. Not as cool. Yeah, I think so. Well, you know, when that thing's technology was debuted to us, we had no idea about, like, other cars that were going to come. So the pop was like, oh, this is futuristic. Then the delay was like, oh, this is historic. Yeah.

Yeah, like, I thought it was going to be as big as your truck. It's not even close to that. It's like half of that. I do try to save the world. I've got two electric cars. Thank you, AJ. I would like to go to a light storage place. It's easy to make all those batteries. I know that.

Of course, those batteries were made in a way that was not harmful to the planet at all. What are the people that dig it up? I don't know anything about that, but I do know of course those batteries were made in a way that was not harmful to the planet at all. Nope. What are the people that dig it up? Yep. Well, I don't know anything about that, but I do know that I was told if it's electric, I'm saving the world.

Wait, are those batteries like a blood diamond situation? I don't know. Way worse. Probably worse, yeah. We need to all... Well, actually... It's the lesser of two evils. You got to pick one.

You want the planet to run too hot and everyone to burn, or do you want a couple people dying from making matters? Well, see, so... It's the lesser of two evils. You've got to pick one. You want the planet to run too hot and everyone to burn, or do you want a couple people dying from making matters? Well, see, so both of those are bad. And who knows if the first one's real. The second one, I guess, apparently sounds like it is 100% real, although we understand that the world is changing drastically. I think, what, California said all electric vehicles by 2030 or something?

It's the lesser of two evils. It's that philosophy question. Would you kill one to save 100? Or would you let 100 die? Let them die. What's your problem? We don't have to make an answer. Nobody was saying, hey, I need an answer. You know what I mean? Nobody was on this particular program saying that. I thought we were talking about saving global

warming. But when he debuted a Cybertruck, the Hummer ev thing wasn't even really thought of right yeah that's when they had the patent right no like the first few years tesla like allowed gmc to utilize what tesla did to create the tesla vehicles just let the patent down i believe elon's exact words were if you were on a sinking ship and you know how to clog the holes, you'd be an asshole not to tell everybody how to do it. So he released the patent of what Tesla did. Then you saw Mercedes come in and GMC come in and everybody come in with the same type of thing because of, and I don't know, they were probably working on it, right? I mean, people were working on it for like 100 years.

on it right i mean people working on for like 100 years they weren't able to do it this alien shows up from south africa and figures out how to have a more efficient faster quicker and prettier car than anybody else in the history of cars so that's certainly alarming how that took place but yeah when the hummer came out it was like oh this is what the cyber truck would want to be i think that thing's awesome and then the cyber truck has come out and it stinks is that what everybody's saying yeah that's what lloyd does it not how, though? So the email I got, it lost 30% in size. So when it originally came out, it literally shrunk. It's not fraud. It's not fraud.

It's false advertising. That's right. Shout out to Ja Rule in the Fyre Festival documentary. At the end, it was his last line in the movie. That's right. That guy's out. We also lost bulletproof windows. Well, those things were never really in there

right because he broke the glass with the rock which we thought at the time was great marketing yeah because everybody

talked about how yeah he has these bulletproof and then he puts like movie windows in there candy glass on there just explodes

or whatever it was funny oh hilarious what was that is that an Elon do you have an Elon Muskk not really but that's kind of the one clip route oh hilarious you should work on that i think an elon what is he is he just a south african accent do you know that's something you can pick up he doesn't have he's been away from south africa for so long i feel like he's kind of a man with he's got his own accent.

Yeah, actually. What year has it come out that he's visiting from another planet? What year? 2026? Whatever year we introduce aliens, he'll come out next to him and be like, see, we're not that bad. It'll be like, it turns out I actually have been

I apologize for lying, but I think I made the world a better place, right? Even Twitter. Some people said I wouldn't. I think I did. And his face will open up. And he said, but we do have to worry about. And then somebody else comes in.

Shams. Yep. This particular alien here is not good. And then all of a sudden we have all out battle where the humans are the worst. I guess. Yeah. But Elon has a alien clan that is on the side of that piece of humans and they come together to defeat the bad so we have allies right with some of them absolutely have to

that israeli uh general of security he says they're they're already inside mars working together that's what space force is for inside huh inside mars yep man they have a base set up there never would have guessed that dark side of the moon how'd they how'd they find it the inside well they had that rover rolling around on the outside so everybody just snatched they snatched it they come up from the ground and snatch it i think the first conversation was like how do they have enough service to send clips back from mars this thing all by itself and then natural thought is well it has to be some sort of something somewhere well it goes to the International Space Station

and then it comes it's like yeah then there's that door on Mars that made its rounds is that our lifetime? yes 100% yeah? man no doubt about it I mean when's TC going to space?

That's basically, you know. So we're sending, who do we put off the bus first? Brock? Brock. TC. TC. Yep. The Rock.

Just to showcase the different sizes. Yeah. Dwayne Johnson. Glazer. The Mountain. James Harrison. The Mountain from, you know. TJ Watt.

Wide. Nick Bosa. Yeah. Jesus. Zito. Zito. Zito. Bob Zito That Georgia defensive lineman Jalen Carter Need him not to tap out though Gonna need him to have a little bit more cardio

Justin Fields Jonathan Davis Reina's parents Reina's parents for negotiation If we need it Oh yeah cause they will Remember when you guys did this? Might as well send Neil Berrio.

Don't sleep on Berrio. He'll be useful. AJ. These are just Americans, aren't they? Everybody we're sending out is American. Are we sending the best or not? Sylvester Stallone. Like, should Mbappe maybe show up?

You're taking a year-long trip out there. Ronaldo. You're going to go meet him? To me? The Klitschko twins? These people, you think you can get all these people on one craft? The Ghost of Kiev. Yeah, it's like Noah's Ark, pal.

We're sending it. The Ghost of Kiev should fly them all there. Is it bad that we're sending all our best soldiers, though? Yeah, it seems like a little bit of a bait-and-switch situation. They have to come to us, but do we want them on our land? No. Ah, see? Got to meet halfway.

Space Station. SpaceX. Space Station. Methi with a soccer ball. Watch this. We need Messi's dog. I don't know if we need Messi. Yeah.

Yeah. One of those giant. All right, let's move along. We've wasted a lot of time. We got to the bottom of it, though. Yeah, pretty much. And that's going to happen, so we have to start thinking about it. And congrats to all those people that have been sent out there.

We should send Santa too. What about that right tackle for Ohio State? Sam. DeJuan Jones. Yes. Santa. DeJuan Jones. DeJuan Jones right tackle of the Ohio State Buckeyes. Send him out there. Holy fuck. 68380 they said?

He's a big boy. His head, like they're in the huddle. It was like the Blindside movie at the beginning. He's a big boy. Biggest dude I've ever seen in my life. His head, like they're in the huddle. It was like the Blindside movie, you know, at the beginning. He's in high school or whatever. That's what it was for Ohio State and for the Georgia D-line, which is notoriously large. Definitely need to send him. Who's rallying the troops?

Mike Rabel. Oh, yeah. Oh, because Rabel's player coach in this situation. You can't smoke on the space station, though. Rabel's got to bring his bait. They'll change the rules for him. Commander Z's. He can go, yeah. Oh, because Vrabel's player coach. Can't smoke on the space station, though. Vrabel's got to bring his bait. They'll change the rules for him. Commander Z's. He can go to...

Oh. Yeah, Bill should definitely go up there. I wouldn't mind being on the trip just to talk, though. Yeah, game plan. I would like to be a talker. Spiritual advisory need as well on the trip. Yeah, if anything, we should leave all those people on the plane. Tebow, definitely.

Did you see T-Bo? Yeah. He's so jacked. Holy sh- You saw him, AJ, didn't you? Oh, yeah. I think we were just about to go live when he was walking by us. Oh, yeah.

He is jacked. Yolked. Huge. Well, Nick said he fucking took a 15-pound shit in the bathroom. Marty's awesome. Yeah, Keto's getting to him it sounds like. Nick just so happened to go into the bathroom right after

Tebow. Tebow dropped a fucking nuke in there. What did he leave the body of Christ in there? And some. He mopped the walls. He did. That would be terrible. The show is the worst.

You guys are the worst people on earth. Sorry, Tim. They came up to me and told me this story. I was just standing there. What am I expecting to hear right now? Who knows? Hey, ask Nick about the shit that T-Bone talks about. What?

It's true. He was eating so much cabbage and like... He didn't have any of the catering. He just brought a bag of cabbage. Eating it all day. To be clear, it does feel as if the show has done what this show does on a regular basis,

which is start to assume things and then start telling fairy tales and then those somehow become reality. There's possibly 150 people that could have went into this bathroom before tim tebow went in there and he was in there for a while yeah i thought he could have got changed what if he was getting changed in there on in the midst of somebody else's shit i agree with you well i'm pretty sure that tim tebow does not poop or smell his does not stink. I don't know if it stunk, but from what Nick said, he had to take a dump naked because it was, I mean, it was like a 12 to 15 pound shit. You know, you can't do that with clothes on.

And Nick said that there's a scripture on the floor. So you knew he was reading. Yeah, he had been in there. Everybody's using the same bathroom. I didn't say that. One staller. Oh, that's what you didn't say, Nick? I'm not going to lie. I didn't say that. One staller. Oh, that's what you didn't say, Nick? I'm not going to lie.

I'm glad you clarified that one. Thanks. Anyways, let's move on. We love Tim. We love him. Good guy. I fucking love him. Great guy.

Love T-Bow. Every time I see him, I take a selfie with him. I post it like one time out of every three times. And I'm always like, I'm posting that right now. And then I watch him walk away. I'm like, God damn, look at T-Bow, how big he is. I asked him if he was going to be an Olympian lifter. Because he is just like, he looks like a bodybuilder right now.

You should try bobsled. Don't you think he could be one of those guys that does the bobsled deal? I could see that. Anything but hit a curveball. Probably too big. He's going way too fast on that thing. No, because you want to be big, right? Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

We can't have Tebow going down that thing going 1,200 miles an hour. He's not going to be able to control it. Sam G. Gare, you remember Sam G. Gare? No. He was a French-Canadian wide receiver. Phenomenal specimen of an athlete. Like, bald head, too. Ten-pack. You you know incredibly quick twitched

got hurt a couple times playing because of how quick twitched he was it was almost like he was so athletic and so fast like practice every single rep it was like here we go we're watching an actual olympian run and also he is a hound dog. He's going to dive his farthest, and there's going to be collisions. I don't know if he ever made it into real time, but he retired from football, and he joined the Canadian bobsled team. I was like, that's the right move. It seems like that's the right move. They're like Olympian sprinters, I think.

That's why I laughed. In my head, I was saying, how far do I go with Tim Tebow? Do I say Tim Tebow can run a 4-4 right now? That's what I was in my head, and I started laughing because I don't think he's fast enough to be a bobsledder. I don't know. You need at least, like, one big brute to get that nice push off to start. That's what I'm saying. Sam Giguere, I don't know what his weight was, but he was fucking.

Total pack. He was a monster, and he was very fast. And I don't think the Canadian bobsled team was good. Maybe. No, we know from the documentary Sprinters. Yeah, the... Who's the girl sprinter? Lolo Jones. Yeah, Lolo made the Olympics, right?

Mm-hmm. Can't wait. I see a bad mother who don't take No shit from nobody Thank you You're dead man Great movie

Rest in peace Great movie Was that real? Obviously there's probably some Hollywood in it A little bit Based on real story Fucking A That's my favorite bobsled team of all time

If that's a real team That's my favorite actual bobsled team of all time Absolutely feel the rhythm feel the rhyme Get on up It's bobsled time Think about how cold they had to be True events of the 1988 Jamaican bobsled team Hell yeah

Thank you S Sanka. And that's what the Olympics are all about. All right, let's move along. Let's learn and wrap up this glorious winter Wednesday by learning about some secondary football with EverythingDB. Ladies and gentlemen, it is time for Darius Butler to make us a more well-rounded football fan base. It's time for everything DB with DB.

Oh, let's go. Ladies and gentlemen, Darius Butler. And he's going. Let's go. You good here? Mike good? We starting off with this one? No, no.

Oh, okay. We will. We will. All right, let's get right to it. Lions-Bears. So this is seven seconds left in the first half. So seven seconds. So this is a situation where obviously they're out of field goal range. So the offense can either go Hail Mary or get an out route and get out of bounds and then kick a deep field goal.

So you got the three deep safeties. You only got one guy that's going to rush the passer here. You got a defender up here. Obviously, these defenders are here. And then you got a defensive end, a rookie defensive in our here Aiden Hutchinson and his job is to just keep vision inside protect the sideline Right. He doesn't want to let him catch an outright out route and get out of bounds here So once again seven seconds for the offense No timeouts typically you'll get like a bunch here and it's something you practice as a defense You usually get a bunch of you usually get a low out a and it's something you practice as a defense you'll usually get a bunch here you usually get a low out a medium level out and then a deeper out route

but they don't run that for whatever reason Aiden Hutchinson does exactly what these coaches do and obviously he's been a great pass rusher all year but also got three interceptions on the year so obviously freak athlete great ball's a freak athlete, great ball skills. So, right now, as you can see, everybody's outside leverage, outside leverage protecting the sideline. These guys protecting the deep part of the field. And then, just like you said, vision aside, he's going to – I think he throws to that guy and ends up – Look at this.

Boop. Definitely looks like the Bears practice. What a play. So, yeah, that's one of those situations. I mean, I would have just, like, through the Hail Mary, especially if you get this look. No, but look at how sweet these route concepts are. Yeah, it looks crazy.

Like I said, I've usually seen the out routes, out, out, out, three-level out routes. But, I mean, if you've got one pass rusher here, just let the guys run to the end zone. What's going on? Throw it 55. I mean, what are the Bears doing? Absolute shit.

Seven seconds, you said? Seven seconds. Hey, seven seconds. If you're over here and you're getting over here, you got to scoot. If you're getting over here and you're going over there, you got to fucking go. Like, hey, we're not just trying to gain yards here, right? Terrible. Terrible.

That isn't the goal. Like, what? Yeah, he's probably confused. Like, these aren't the routes we practice against. But, I mean, they're better off just letting Fields just tuck in and just have these five motherfuckers just leading the game. Look, nobody rushing, dude. That's awesome.

Not a single soul rushing for the Lions. 11 in coverage. And the Chicago Bears are like, we didn't practice against 11. What are we? So, yeah. Gimme. But, boom. Great execution on their part, obviously.

Good job by the young fellow. AJ, what's going on there, pal? Are the Bears fucked? Yikes. I mean, you can see them pre-snap kind of their alignments. They're not really sure who's in the front of the little bunch of the stack and who's not. And then I'm sure probably threw them off a little bit,

seeing this 1D lineman just head up. And then I wonder if they even saw Hutchinson up there before, like pre-snap. But, like, did the Bears' wide receivers just tell each other, like, hey, let's all run, like just run whatever you want and get open? Or is this just not a play? Tries left three different spots. Isn't this something you practice every single week, right? This is normally the last thing of the walkthrough.

This is situational. So, for the offense, once again, you're trying to get in the field goal situation. Got to get the ball out of bounds here. This is either a Hail Mary or one of those plays where you catch it, you pitch it back, but you usually don't do that at the end of half. That's usually like an end-of-game desperation situation. What are we? Big brain stuff, though, from the Lions.

Yeah. Look at that. The Lions. New Lions. The Lions will prepared and executed. Here, we're going to have three. So, this is something that you don't see much of from Patrick Mahomes. Poor decision.

Poor throw here. You got Travis Kelsey isolated backside. He's going to be backside. You're going to get an over route. Pass rush late. He's going to break the pocket. Throw to his left. A throw we've seen him make a ton here, but a great play from Justin Simmons at that safety position.

Dog. One of the best young safeties in the league right now. So you got pressure here. You got Kareem Jackson. He's coming in and helping the corner with inside leverage, right, because you got Travis Kelsey. Don't want to leave him one-on-one with anybody in this area to fill. So pause it right here.

So right now, if Patrick Mahomes, I would assume if he could step up in his pocket and make this throw right here, this is a throw he'll make. We've seen him make it right here. So right now, if Patrick Mahomes, I would assume if he could step up in his pocket and make this throw right here, this is a throw he'll make. We've seen him make it a ton. Deion dives at his legs late. He escapes the pocket. By the time he throws it, it's too late. Justin Simmons covers that ground, makes a great play.

Oh, I know. This isn't a Patrick Mahomes throw. This is not. And, you know, watching this, this was a great take by 15. Numbers are all right, but third down, red area was not typical Patrick Mahomes that you want to see at this part of the season. Really? What's that all about?

He has had a couple games where that's happened through his career. He's so young. If he has a bad day, everybody knows about it. But I didn't know that this was happening. I mean, that's 100% for Patrick Mahomes. And this is something that we were talking about on the college, on Old State, Georgia. Like, if you're going to throw these types of balls, you've got to miss.

You've got to miss out there, right? A couple of hits. Oh, yeah, right in front of us. Yeah, you've got to throw it out of bounds if your guy can't catch it. You can't make this throw back into the field of play. How do you feel about the hip flip, AJ? You got that in your bag? No, I don't think i i quite have that is it possible d but that he thought maybe that his wide out was going to stop and and uh simmons will go flying by i don't know it's so because

it's so much yeah it's so much space i feel like it'll be i mean it's this is a tough throw it's just a really tough throw you're right really tough throw but and he wanted if you go back to the beginning he wanted kelsey he wasn't even looking at um 84 and this was now years past that was always tyreek hill so he would take a quick peek at 87 and you see the safety down here he's going right to tyreek hill so now with it being 84 there no disrespect to him i can't think of his name off top of my head justin he gets to him late. He gets to Watson late, makes that throw. And think about those crossing routes. If you give DBs enough time, they can close the ground.

But crossing routes, they usually open up early, and it's a window that you can hit those receivers. Obviously, he got that one late. Now, this was Russell Wilson. Played probably his best game that I've seen him play this year. Oh, his teammates said that they like him, and he played good football. Yeah, and he cried at his press conference. Awesome.oked up swear to god i'm all in on him yeah you know when's coming dead serious okay so um now this is so pause it so right now as a quarterback

pre uh actually rewind a little bit we'll go pre-snap as a quarterback he thinks he sees he has single high coverage right now single high that's going to let you know you got one-on-ones in the outside okay so after emotion so he's going to see single high this safety is going to rotate down so he's going to know okay boom it's going to have a play action so he is going to turn his back to the defense briefly but he he knows right now i got one-on-ones in the outside why this corner can't roll up because there's no safety to protect them over the top so, once you get single high as a quarterback, you know, these corners have to run vertical. So pause it right here. So in his mind, this corner is gone because he know he has a vertical route out here. Now,

this other crossing route, Judy, he's going to be running across her and this is the flat defender on the opposite side. So that's the defender that's going to be, if you put a vision thing, that's going to be that he's looking for him. Yep, he's looking him up right now after the play action. Bites on the run, comes back, he's looking him up. So right now, in Russell's mind, this is the only defender he has to beat. So he just has to throw this receiver away from that defender. But Snead does a good job with vision back here.

It's kind of risky, too, because he kind of just drops this receiver and lets him go, keeps his vision on the quarterback. Russ is under a little pressure. Throws the ball, but right now Russ, in his mind, because he can't really look over there before he throws it, but in his mind, he knows he's gone because you only got one safety. Snead comes off.

Vision back. Boop. So when you're watching it live, when I was watching it live, not being able to see the all-23, like, yo, what is Russ doing? Like, this was the throw. This is the one throw that you're watching it live, when I was watching it live, not being able to see the all-23, like, yo, what is Russ doing? Like, this was the throw. This was the one throw that you're like, oh, man, this was horrible. You see it from the back copy, you can get even a better picture of it. But, I mean, Risky from Snead.

Judy stops, too, right? Was he looking to break it down? Judy's not expecting that, either, because he's running away from his cover three. So right now. He slows down right there. Is he looking for a hole? He was trying to. It looks like Russ was trying to put him like kind of over.

He thought he was maybe here. He's getting hit too. Yeah. And Russ was thinking he's over here. Yeah. Running through the ball. Wow. Dang.

Smart play. Good play by Snead. Heads up play. Having vision back. But for a quarterback, you can't see everybody, right? So you get a picture of a coverage. And if it's single high, I don't care if it's fire zone. I don't care if it's man.

I don't care if it's cover three. I know this guy's running that corner back off. Yeah, so in his head checklist, that corner's gone. Yeah. Yeah, now we've got to make another decision real quick. That corner's gone. Cross should be good. Yep.

Turns out. Not gone. Reading should be good. Turns out not gone. I think if the wideout takes an outside release there, his eyes won't be back. The corner's eyes won't be back to the quarterback at all. If he takes outside release and forces him to man turn, probably not. But as he covered

three, the way he plays it, I guess he's outside right now. Do you think there's a chance these corners talk pre-snap? Because it's only a two-man route, so they know something's probably coming here around the sticks. I wonder if they talk pre-snap. I wonder if this guy and this guy talked pre-snap,

because watch him turn and bail for his. Snead is all over that. That is a ballsy play, too. If he talked to anybody and plays it like this, I would have thought he would have talked to that safety to be like, hey, get me over the top. I may jump some shit here. But I believe that's Sutton up there too.

So that's really their why receiver one. But, I mean, sometimes you drop your nutters, you just get lucky and make a play. And that's what Snead's been around for a while. He's made some heads-up picks this year. Great head. And it's another big play for him. Oh, shit.

Yeah, he did get smacked. Got him. Pause it real quick. Yep. So if you run it back to the beginning uh last week we talked a bunch about playing cover two from the disguise pre-snap look and now we talked about how i didn't like corners um playing that deep half of the cover two but this is a different situation it's third and 15 right so these corners you see the depth so there this is cover two corners obviously typically flat defenders up here they're going to be the deep half defenders and i talked about how i hated

the deep safety playing the middle read from back here and dropping down because if you're going towards the line of scrimmage you're never going to be able to run with that deep guy uh this defense does it differently they do it with duggar he starts kind of near the line of scrimmage and he's the run through guy but he's going away near the line of scrimmage, and he's the run-through guy, but he's going away from the line of scrimmage initially. This Nickelback, towards lineup at Nickelback, Patriots play a bunch of DBs. They give you a bunch of different looks for pucks.

This kind of looks like a pressure look almost, pre-snap and then post-snap. Now you've got him going to the flat, him going to the flat, him going to the flat, him going to the half, half. Genius. And now Duggar is that middle run-through defender. Best player on the field. So he plays it. Genius.

Fucks him up. Get the sticks. And Duggar, when he's been getting the ball, I think it was four touchdowns this year? I believe so. Three or four. Three or four touchdowns this year. So he's been a dog with that ball in his hands big time punt returner in college so he knows what to do with

um the ball is in his hands bro look where he is yeah so he's starting here third and 15 so this is the look this is the look that the quarterback is getting pre-snap you're taking your scan okay what coverage can i potentially get okay kind of looks like zero maybe he blit one two three four five six maybe all those guys are pressuring, and these guys are covering those guys, right? That's the body posture that they're kind of in. But then once the snap goes, these dudes actually turn into the corners. He's a D2 guy as well. Yeah.

Duggar? Yeah. So you only get a four-man rush. Those two safeties go out, and they pretty much become the corners. He's the middle run through. He knows landmark, what's coming, boom, Teddy B. You got time. You got a pocket, but.

Sorry, Teddy. That's the combine drill there, isn't it? Mm-hmm. Running backwards, flipping hips, breaking. Flip back, boom, get his head. Boom. That's probably just how they repped it in practice. Great stiff arm on Teddy.

And a great return, yeah. I think this is the play that Teddy got hurt on. Broken pinky there? Yeah, that's the play he got hurt on. Oh, shit. It might have been face. Rewind it. I think I saw that pinky when he got up.

Why? Teddy B, man. He been getting banged up. For a long time. Flintstones vitamins. Yeah, he does. He takes some shots. He's a veteran quarterback, too.

Is this just good disguise? Too good of a disguise? Good disguise, good execution. Because these are timing routes, man. You want to complete that dig ball two yards outside of them. It's usually digs. You know, that's a good route to throw. But it gets covered, too.

But you got a very athletic DB. Maybe not. Still feels like they are going to be that seventh team. Patriots? No, Dolphins. Huh? Yeah. They beat the Jets.

They got the Jets. They've gone real cold, though. Yeah. They have. It's gone real cold down South Beach. And it was just breaking news. They took the ping pong table out of their locker room. Oh, no.

This weekend. I thought McDaniel. I was told McDaniel was a fun guy. He was a cool coach. A.J. What's going on down there? It is weird. Not mid-season, very end of the season, taking this thing out.

David Ferrones, the Miami Dolphins' ping pong table, has been removed from the heart of the team's locker room ahead of Week 18 finale versus the Jets with a playoff spot potentially on the line. They're panicking down there, huh? Come on. Well, well, well. Funny cool guy isn't so funny, you know, is he?

Might have been funny as he took it out. Not cool, though. No. He thought he had to think to himself they're playing too much ping pong. Is that how Teddy heard it? We were trying to figure it out if this was the case. We're trying to do a little journalism here. I don't like that. I don't like that.

I don't like that at all. Week 18? I either don't like how the players have been treating having a ping pong table in their locker room. Like, are you showing up late to meetings because you're in the middle of a fucking ping pong game? Are you not paying attention because you're in the middle of a ping pong

game? Did a fight happen because of the ping pong table? So i'm either upset with the players you know abusing something that is put in there to have a good time with or like mcdaniel relax you know so it's one of the i'm not happy about it i'm not happy about the situation whatever way it is i don't know which one it is it could very easily be either one of those but like it seems like classic classic overreaction here you lose games you lose games that's all you can do is overreact and try to take things away yeah because he can say i tried to change everything we were rolling too man you know how much they're probably playing ping pong i assume a lot if it's in the heart of their locker mike white's coming to town buttholes get tight. No more pong in Iran. Can't have it.

Let's go to the next one. What is that about? Great disguise. Weird. Don't like it. Very curious. Speaking of Mike White. No shot.

Mike White on one of those things we were talking about with young quarterbacks getting early starts, those eyes, right? Take the ping pong, dude. He's starting to steer things down. Quandre Diggs, three-time pro bowler, one of the best post safeties in the league. You'll see this from the back copy, too. Going to get a good double move here. Great breakout of the post.

Give me that. Oh, punt. Wow. Give me up. So we got pressure up front. But just watch his eyes and then watch his reaction. As soon as those eyes go left, you're going to come out, make a peek right, and then boom.

As soon as he goes left. So right now, you see his body part. Next step for Diggs. Great post safeties. Great. You do a great job keying the quarterback. Boom. Let me get over there.

From what you saw, is the book out on him, or is this just an unbelievable play by Seattle? I mean, he had more throws this year, this game, that weren't great. This was, I want to say, might have been a first drive. It was early. Yeah. But, you know. Look at that effort. want to say, might have been a first drive. It was early. Yeah, but, you know. Look at that effort. He'll learn, though.

Yeah, Jordan Brooks, he also tore his ACL, unfortunately, on Sunday. 5-6. Not on this play. Look at this. What a play by him here, though. If you watch Brooks, the back tries to pick him up. This is the kind of athletic he is. Yeah.

And his effort. He'll keep it going. It's amazing. Freak. Hand on the ground. Doesn't go down. Still eats afterwards. Still hungry. Still got a left up.

Are you second in the league in tackles? Maybe first? Jeez. I like to hold the ball up after you pick it. It's awesome. This is mine. Excuse me. Thank you. Look it, look it, look it. Oh, little Packers.

Hell yeah. Packers, man. Now, you know, us, Ty, been giving a lot of shit all year. You know, they came in as one of the best. Should have been one of the best. What did Ty ask you two weeks ago? Do they practice? These guys fucking practice. Well, now they do. When it matters. You know,

it was some bulletin board material given to the Vikings in 18, first game, Justin Jefferson, first game of the season. Nine catches, 184 yards, two touchdowns. And you can tell. Sometimes you can watch film and you can know and tell teams, defenses, secondaries, take a certain matchup in the challenge. Personally, this was definitely one of them.

You saw some gritting on the sideline. You saw them get jumped pretty much on the sideline. So I'll run this back, please. So you're going to have Justin Jefferson. Shout out to Savage, too. Savage got benched, came in, played great against the Dolphins, played great in this game as well. So you got Justin Jefferson in the slot.

He's going to carry him vertically, take care of that. Rudy Ford had a couple interceptions a few weeks back against the Cowboys. Once he basically eliminates that deep threat on his side of the field, he's going to peak to the opposite side of the field. Thielen's going to be running a post route. So once he's gone, boom, eyes go right back, and he high points his ball. Once again, pause it. This quarterback, he's not really in the picture right now.

Hell of a throw. Hell of a game from Kirk Cousins. So to him, he sees Thielen, and he's like, he's open. I know where I can put this ball. But Rudy Ford, fine work. Fine work, deep safeties. Go across the field, fine work. Savage had a pick six off a tip.

Amos had a pick in this game. Justin Jefferson. Justin Jefferson, great hustle. Yes. a pick six off a tip. Amos had a pick in his game. Justin Jefferson. That's Jefferson. Great hustle. Great effort. Jair Alexander half tripped, half buried Jefferson after that. Really? Yeah. I think this is what Jefferson wanted. He was coming after this. Yeah, you'll see it. Justin Jefferson was very angry. On the sideline.

Look at Justin though. That's great. You want to see that from here. Jair right behind him. Ready? Boom! He like kind of trips. Lands right on great. You want to see that from here. Right behind him. Ready? Boom. He, like, kind of trips right on him. Those are a little slick over there. Those maps are a little slick sometimes. A lot of, speaking of slick, this field, I don't know if this is intentional, Ty. Yeah, I saw the video.

Yeah, I saw a lot of that. It looks like it stinks. No one's saying that unless the Vikings get the shit beat out of them. But, you know, I don't know. If it was dry, you think they'd win that game? Are they both playing on it? It's both on the same field, right? Good question. Get some cleats to work.

Let's see how this looks here. Gotcha. Yeah, it took him a while. It took Jefferson a while to get out of his sideline, too, if you watch his game. I mean, he trips. Yeah, he fell. He fell. It was an accident.

I'm sure he got up and said sorry immediately. Yeah, of course. Definitely. I'm so sorry. He was running over there and gritting his got up and said sorry immediately. Yeah, of course. Definitely. I'm so sorry. He was running over there and gritting his face again. He probably gritted on top of him. Yeah. Pretty quick bounce up there.

Oh, yeah. Think about how fast. That guy's on all fours on the ground, head in the middle of two guys. And then he's down. Came close to hitting his fucking heater, too. Yeah, there was some real damage could have taken place there. Let's stay with this game, shall we? Ooh.

Oh. This is more so in your lane, but I'm not a special teams guy, but you can see how this unfolds. You got from outside in our 1, 2, 3, 4. Left side, same thing. L, 1, 2, 3, 4. And just watch this 5 right pat and this four yeah

that's problematic and the way this normally goes is you know five four three two you let the one go okay and on the flip side same exact thing five four three two you let the one go okay and this is exactly what they do. Normally you try to hide the one somewhere like here or here, line them up at the four or the five so that this team, whenever they're doing the counting, trying to figure out who the fuck they're going to block, they have to try to figure it out and decipher it. Vikings just say, nah, they're the fucking ones, dude. They're just all the way out the end end and the reason why you let the ones go is because they are safeties they are safeties the kicker is supposed to create a triangle with the safeties to kind of be the safe folks while five goes to the ball two section edge

five goes to the ball four goes through three goes through bam bam bam that's what's supposed to happen lane integrity everybody. Everybody. Very important. Bang, pow, boom, boom. We're all the way across this motherfucker. All you need though, D-Butt, say it. One motherfucker to go out of that lane. That is it. And all of a sudden you got a big gaping hole. Once again, D-Butt's point, look at this five and look at this four. This five, I believe, now D-Bud, I might be wrong, thought that this five was going to cross

and they were going to do this number to set up the blockers who were trying to block the fives because fives are ball guys. L5, which is this particular guy, gets pump faked by R5. R5 starts to go in front of his face. Bam, right there. Starts to lean this way.

So L5 thinks, you know what, I need to go this way then to make up for that lane. At the same exact time, L4 is deciding to go this way because he thinks he's getting blocked by that guy. Turns out that's a fake block block which sets up this block perfectly and with this five pump faking this way then going back this way and with this guy thinking he had to make up for that five he goes that way and we're talking about a big gaping hole i mean that's not good that's not good and then it's just safety right here

boom see ya can't happen Darius can't happen that cross from the five is that something that's talked about from the coaches or is that the players like hey we gone I would have to know the personnel.

I'd have to know the personnel, how long these two have been around each other, because that could be a field thing. Because this guy is winning the race down there, which is a big deal. So that person decides what's going to take place. I think this guy saw that guy and said, you know what, I need to adjust. And then this guy just got baited into thinking the wrong person was blocking him. So he thought he was setting an edge almost, thought he could get around him. Like he thought he could get around him and get back.

Yeah. But instead it was just a set up, bang. What'd you do? Pow. Is this what Richie tells him to do? Oh, yeah. Like setting those guys up like that? Oh, yeah.

The faint block is certainly a, that's a very large part of the old kickoff return game. And this one just works out perfectly for the Packers. That is their first kickoff return game, and this one just works out perfectly for the Packers. That is their first kickoff return touchdown since 2011. Damn. All the time. Just as somebody that played in the special teams world, that's crazy because every single kickoff return, that could happen.

All you need is what? One fucking guy to accidentally get fooled, and one guy to get fooled and go this way and then all of a sudden you just got fucking wind up. You gotta hope the kicker can make a tackle. And this would have been a tough one to make. These motherfuckers ain't back there getting tackled by kickers.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah, they are. 25 times. Matt Gade absolutely blew some great buddy up earlier. I love Greg Joseph. I love this man. Right here. Great kicker. Tough spot to be here right now. Yoked up. This is no fun at all. He's got no shot.

He's at a standstill. Feet are flat. This dude's been running fucking 30 yards already. Next to no shot here. And your team completely fucked up. One went that way, one went that way. They asked you to be put run over, basically. You get a two-way go there as well. Yeah.

Yeah. And, you know, yeah. Well, that's going to happen. Roger's point, too. I mean, he caught that, you know, like six yards deep. That was like a 105-yard kickoff return. You know, Packers haven't had a guy like that in a long time. Yeah, and it motivates everybody else to block well, too.

Oh, yeah. Like that faint block has given a lot more effort out of that faint block, I assume, because you've got Keyshawn Nixon back there. You said you would try and bait him into the sideline if you're in the middle of the field. Yeah, you're fucked. This is a tough one. Yeah, you just got to go.

That's the other part of right kicking it. You don't want kicks in the middle of the field. Yeah, right down the middle. I think he's supposed to kick a touchback six yards deep they probably thought that'd be a touchback no no so these guys might have thought it was going to be a touchback to the coverage team you know yeah and they kind of let up three fourths way down oh shit you give up a kickoff return todd though the energy oh i mean the game was legit over after this because they blocked a punt the previous possession got it on the one-yard line.

Packers held them to a field goal, and then they fucking took the opening kickback and then had to pick six on the next possession. DB, thank you for letting me be a part of that. Appreciate you, buddy. Oh, we got one more, actually. Do you? Yeah. Yep, boom.

Here we go. Oh, it was hot. Yeah. Eyes. Eyes. Eyes. Eyes. Eyes.

Young safety. This is a tough play, too, because he gets a run read here. It's going to be play action. He gets a run read here. White, pause it. Is it right? This is the guy who made that big rock right. He had two again.

Yep, against the Jets, that late fourth down. This is another great acting, great patience. You got play action back here. Watch those eyes. That's exactly what he said in his head because he got that run fake and then it's a late leak

to the flat. Gotcha. Boom. Boom. And just that little step in, it's a tutty. So eyes,

eyes, eyes. Eyes, eyes, eyes, seeing you peek in. Most tight end touchdowns in

franchise history this year. As a group? Yep. Wow. I'm just trading TJ. You're bringing a tight end head coach. And see what happens. Bingo. Boom.

Great touchdown for the Lions there. Great coverage on everything DB. Thank you so much, Darius. Darius, do you want to attempt to do a giveaway because I couldn't make two in a row? Let's do it. What would you like to accomplish? What would you like to do? We got footballs up here? We do.

Oh, yeah. Here we go, D-Bud. Spin that son of a bitch. You're on to the net? Yeah. All right, ladies and gentlemen. If Darius Butler, host of the Man to Man podcast, NFL matchups, and everything DB, can bury a football into the net, we will give 10 people $500 who retweet this.

And, and, say something nice to somebody. Oh, yeah. It's the holiday season. Spirit of perspective. Put your cash check in there. Good zip on it, though. Dart. For the first try here, if Darius...

Beautiful. Over. Damn it. Also a dart. Ladies and gentlemen, Darius Butler will attempt to win some money for people. This is his first... All right. Ladies and gentlemen.

Jacket too tight to shoot. Are you sure? What's that? You getting fat? No, it's Jackets. Oh, trembling sandwiches are starting to work. Did you see that on the... You and Vinatieri.

Hey, happy 50th, Vinny. Happy birthday, Vinny. He looks unbelievable. AJ, did you see him? Him and his kid look unbelievable right now. Both of them look awesome. I love the tank top. They're, I mean, Vinny's doing something right.

Yeah, he is doing something right, and that's working hard. His boy is also yoked up. All right, so these are a couple practices here. What is going on right now? Darius can make one of these putts here. This is his first try. If he can make one of these three, we'll give ten people $500 who retweet this tweet.

Say something nice to somebody and put their cash tag in the reply as well so we can pay them officially in cash. Darius, maybe you need to take a beat here. You're just powering through. AJ, come on. I need some. Come on, AJ.

You got this one. You got it, D-Butt. Follow through with it. Stay with it. Follow through. Stay in it, D-Butt. You're an athlete. There we go.

Big hole. Small ball. Bury it home. Take the jacket off and shoot a couple basketballs because you haven't missed it. Still has a putt left for 10 people to win $500. Darius J. Butler, one of the greatest athletes walking this earth, makes this putt his first attempt. Ten people.

All right, we'll move to the basketball. Don't even get it there. Here, I'll hold your jacket, sir. Sheesh. It's a good lag, though. That's definitely a two-putt. Excellent lag putt. You're not trying to lag putt from eight feet, AJ.

Some people are. Damn, you look sweet in that jacket. All right. Holy shit. Ladies and gentlemen, if Darius, this is his first try. Uh-huh. This is his first event. You got to get the collar.

No, no, that's the style. There you go. Ooh. Yeah. Clean. Guess what? You're not going home with that one, D-Bud. That thing is sweet. If Darius can make this shot, we'll give 10 people.

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D-Bot, D-Bot. First try. Way to show up for the people. AJ, anything you say to the world before we get out? Thank you. Thank you. Sweet jacket. No, I like that.

I don't even know where you got that, D-Bot. Looks good. Gotcha. Great work there, Darius. Great shot. Great everything, DB. Great man-to-man pod. Great NFL match.

Big thanks to Ian Rapport for joining us earlier and all of you for allowing us to be a part of your afternoon programming. We'll see you tomorrow with another big one. Ladies and gentlemen, tomorrow's a massive day. Why? Because it's the next day. Let's enjoy every one of these. Week 18 is just a few hours away.

Let's take it all in. Let's enjoy the ride. And let's say something nice to somebody. Cheers. We'll see you tomorrow. Goodbye.