The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 830 - Feel The Beat With David Lombardi, Sal Capaccio, & Art Stapleton, Everything DB With Darius Butler LIVE From The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk
Episode Date: January 11, 2023On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about all the different playoff games that are now just a few days away as well as react to some of the rumors floating around the NFL... including the Bears trading Justin Fields and using the #1 pick on a Quarterback, and the Raiders actively kicking the tires on Tom Brady coming to Vegas. Joining the progrum to Feel the Beat with NFL Playoff games on the horizon is David Lombardi with the 49ers (31:36-40:43), Sal Capaccio with the Bills (41:12-49:14), and Art Stapleton with the Giants (50:49-59:47). Later, 9 year NFL veteran everywhere in the secondary, host of the Man-To-Man podcast and NFL Matchups, Darius Butler breaks down the best and worst DB plays of the week in Everything DB (2:36:33-3:10:45). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hello, beautiful people. It is Winter Wednesday, January 11th, 2023. The NFL playoffs are hours away and this show starts now.
Football!
Hey, we're about to get into it, aren't we?
Hell yeah.
Let's all make sure we, uh, whenever we wake up these next few days, let's all take it in where we are and where we've come from.
Remember, training camp was taking place, and we had no idea what was going to happen.
We thought every team had a chance to maybe win the Super Bowl.
Why did we think that?
Well, because a couple years back, the Bengals were terrible.
And last year, the Bengals made it to the Super Bowl. It not only made it to the Super Bowl,
if Aaron Donald isn't a fucking monster like Aaron Donald is,
Joey Burrow probably hits Jamar Chase and they win the fucking Super Bowl.
So that made every team believe that they could be team Cincinnati Bengals
of this particular season.
And now we're here.
Seven left on the AFC.
Seven left on the NFC. And after Saturday and Sunday and Monday night's Cowboys-Buccaneers game, we will be down to the divisional round
where we will only have a few weeks left of the NFL season. Every moment we get to enjoy this
season, every moment we get to chat about what's happening right now, we need to enjoy because we are just a month or so away from the dreaded off-season blues.
Son of a bitch. The off-season blues, what does that mean? Well, we're going to have to talk
about litigation, lawsuits, lawyers, injuries, and maybe smoke screens and mirrors and things
that are happening all over the place. So now that we have actual football about to take place, the most important football of the season about to take place,
let's fucking enjoy the hell out of this.
Thank you to the NFL for a hell of a season.
Great season, NFL.
Thank you, NFL.
Thanks, Goodell.
College football obviously wrapped up with a blowout with the Georgia Bulldogs repeating.
And now all eyes are on the men's league that kicks off on saturday i believe at 4 30 yep that is the san francisco 49ers game against the
seahawks we just saw pete carroll on a scooter they're looking lively even though the last time
they played the niners i was in the building and the niners won that one rather handily now
they had a chance to come back late never seemed like they were going to be able to do it against
that niners defense and they're hot.
But that kicks off super wild card weekend, and we need to enjoy the hell out of it.
This wild card weekend, we will have our same game parlay holiday back.
I will have a parlay alongside A.J. Hawk, Evan Foxey, Dirty, and I think that was it.
I think that's it.
Yeah.
You four.
We will have a same-game parlay together.
Let's go.
The Pod will have a same-game parlay.
That team will be the Toxic Table at Boston Connor, at Ty Schmidt, and...
Zito and Billy Two.
Okay, the Pod's putting a parlay together.
Oh, yeah.
Then Hammer is putting together a parlay.
That'll be at Tone Diggs.
And who will be your teammates?
Good question.
I assume Gumpy and Bruce.
And Mitt, I believe.
Oh, and Mitt.
Jeez, Tone.
Did you not pay?
I mean, I feel like.
I was not around for that conversation.
I feel like whole team was in there.
I was.
Figuring out.
Because we forgot about the same game, parlay holiday.
Yeah.
You know, FanDuel and us have had a relationship for a few years.
We've obviously seen different chapters of FanDuel take place.
Yep.
Different C-suites.
We've almost been at FanDuel longer than anybody aside from the bookmaker and the coders at FanDuel.
So we have a lot of pride in the fact that FanDuel has done very well.
In the same game parlay holiday, not not only was a smashing success last year,
this year it's going to be even better.
You know why?
Because we're all going to hit.
Boom.
That's right.
Boom.
Boom.
Not missing any.
The Pat McAfee Show Parlay that Foxy, AJ, Dirty, and myself
are putting together, going to hit.
Probably going to be on that first game.
If we had to guess, we've been eyeing it in a little bit.
Here we go.
The Pod.
The same game, Parlay from the Pod, is going to hit because we've been eyeing it in a little bit the pod the same game parlay
from the pot is gonna hit because you've been eyeing the the jags chargers and let me just say
we have i think probably the biggest lock in the history of betting oh hammered down has no idea
what they're putting our same game parlay on but whatever they do put it on will be a good one will
be a winner because they're professional gamblers and then the last team will be that's hockey talk
which has that episode every single Wednesday night,
8 p.m. Eastern, live at youtube.com forward slash that's hockey talk.
You will be alongside who?
I believe Ruppert and potentially CFO Phil if he chooses to participate.
That would be crazy if CFO Phil chose to participate
with something that our business was doing
because he's always so busy with everything else going on,
although he does keep everything running,
so we appreciate the hell out of him.
But if he could find time in his life to be a part of your parlay,
and you put his brain next to Rupp's brain, next to your brain,
I think we're going to hit all four of these parlays.
Let's enjoy this.
Come on, boys.
I don't know if any of them will be boosted or what the exact is,
but you will be able to get your money back if you bet on them and they lose.
It won't be a full money return. it's like 50 percent over a certain amount i think all the rules are getting
yeah kind of out right now but you'll be getting money back if you bet on those alongside of us
it won't be 100 i think it'll be 50 and 40 of your money back on these to celebrate the super
wild card weekend and we are very excited about it well there's a lot of news stories happening
around the nfl we'll cover them all today.
We will also be joined by three beat reporters.
We'll be feeling the beat with David Lombardi of the Niners,
Sal Capaccio of the Bills, and Art Stapleton of the Giants.
Obviously, those are three playoff teams that have made it
and that have been covering.
There's three writers that have been covering a team that has had a hell of a year.
Yeah, a hell of a year.
They're in the dance.
That's right. Can't wait to chat with them.
And then, obviously, A.J. Hawk and the man who's been joining us all season long,
Wednesday and Thursday on this particular stage,
and a guy that was out with us at SoFi, feeling the rain inside in L.A.
Ladies and gentlemen, the host of the Man to Man podcast, nine-year NFL vet,
everything DB host, Darius Butler.
D-Butt, I, D-Butt!
D-Butt.
Yep.
I haven't talked to you on air since the national championship.
Just a quick wrap up there.
Dogs are good football.
Dogs are good football.
Yeah, really good.
It was ugly.
Obviously, you know, been on there in the Peach Bowl,
seeing them go up with Old State.
Once they got over that hump, they were pissed off.
You heard the pregame speech, and they came out and put their ass whooping on TCU.
But it was still a great environment, great crowd, a little rain in there,
but it was cool, man.
It was dope.
The rain and the drop.
Hell, yeah, you did great out there, too.
You need to know that.
The rain caused some stretcher situations. Yeah, it was a scene.
As we predicted earlier in the day when we were doing the show live from SoFi
and it was just dropping right in front of that one bathroom.
To get to the bathroom, you had to walk through a waterfall.
Pretty much, actually.
And it was slick.
And we're like, no way that's just how it's going to be for the game.
I guess it was, and that wasn't the only bathroom that it was like that.
I guess all the exterior places where the canopy was kind of loose, pretty slick.
I guess there was people that did get stretched out of there.
They've got to figure that out.
You still think that's the future? of there. They've got to figure that out. You still think
that's the future?
That's what people
are going to do?
Spend $6 billion
and have a fucking
canopy with sideways rain?
We were mistaken
whenever we said
that SoFi needs to be
how everybody does
every stadium.
It is beautiful.
It is.
It is grand.
It is very nice.
The field suites
were a scam
and it has a roof
and rain was getting inside.
Right.
A lot of seeds that stunk.
So there's a couple things there that make you go,
did Kroenke get bamboozled a little bit with how much they charged him to build the thing?
Or is there a chance that he paid more because he wanted it done right now?
Yep.
And this is kind of a really smart, cool-looking thing?
Yes.
Probably.
I think that's probably the case.
Still a beautiful venue.
Yeah.
Just some things that we experienced that were just like,
oh, this is not what every stadium should think about doing going forward.
This should definitely be fixed, you know?
They tried to fix it, too, because they had that one lady with a mop going around
the entire concourse, basically mopping everything up.
So I think they did, you know, do their best, at least.
I did see that video.
She had, like, elementary school, you dragged dragged a bucket and you put the thing there.
And she was like 30 people around.
That was a tough.
Piso Mojado signs everywhere.
Yeah, you're right.
Caution, wet floor.
Oh, I was going to say.
I think it's Quedada, right?
I thought we were talking to TikTok for a second.
Hey, we are on TikTok right now, by the way.
Hey, TikTok. Hey. How long Hey, we are on TikTok right now, by the way. Hey, TikTok.
Hey.
I believe we're live on TikTok right now.
Now, if everything they say about TikTok is true, we won't be live on here for long.
Yep, right now.
Probably get taken down or whatever.
Yep.
Ni hao.
Ni hao wa, some would say.
Okay, so it's cuidado, which is caution, piece of mojado.
Okay, so that's caution, my floor signs we all see in bathrooms.
SoFi need to have the tent out.
They didn't have enough of them.
I guess that's the worst rain they've gotten in a long time.
It was flooding and everything out there.
It's still terrible.
Just so happened to be in a national.
So, T's and P's to everybody out there.
Water, I think you should try to hang on to it right there over there
because there's a lot of drought issue.
But it's coming in.
So we just so happened to be there on the worst.
Worst weekend in decades. SoFi Stadium. Saw some flooding, too. Saw some in. So we just so happen to be there on the worst weekend in decades.
SoFi Stadium.
Saw some pictures.
Flights were delayed.
Hope everybody's okay.
Flights were grounded today, too.
What's going on there?
A massive FAA
technological glitch.
I'm happy I don't have to travel for a while.
Just so happy to come right after the travel.
But that is a while.
What glitch just causes every plane not to be able to contact with the other planes and have any clue where any other planes are?
I have no idea.
You mentioned it.
Can you imagine being in the sky while that happened?
No.
It's just a free-for-all.
There must be some sort of.
It's an absolute free-for-all.
All right, I'm going to go up to 45.
No, somebody else is going up to 45,000 feet.
Seriously. We just got to hope. Some go up to 45. No, somebody else is going up to 45,000 feet. Seriously.
We just got to hope.
Some scary shit.
Yes.
Can't land either.
Like, all right, folks, I know we're 10 minutes from our destination.
We're going to circle for the next three and a half hours.
This is what somebody's going to say right now.
I can already hear it.
There is processes and protocols in place for if this is to take place,
what pilots are supposed to do and everything like that.
And I appreciate you just assuming every pilot's a good pilot.
I'm here to tell you that not every pilot is built the same.
They all might have gone through the same hours of training.
There are some shit pilots out there that need not be put in a position
where they're making decisions for other planes' lives.
Now, I've been on a couple of these flights with these pilots.
And walking off, it's hard not to.
Like, thank you for getting me on the ground.
That was the goal.
Yeah.
I guess that was the goal.
All the things you're controlling are kind of scary.
So if it is all just pilot-based thing, I think we should be good for a majority of pilots being great.
But there are pilots up there that are not good at flying flights.
And they can get it down and they can get it up.
But that is a scary situation to even think about.
Not commercial flights, obviously.
Ah, maybe.
I don't know.
I have no idea.
I just hope the guy who flew us to Danbury that one time was not in the sky.
That's the perfect example of that was a death mission that we survived.
I'm pretty excited.
God was drove off the runway, taken off.
I don't know how that happens.
Yeah, he's not in the sky.
And that's with FAA up, too, by the way. If FAA died, bad. God almost drove off the runway taking off. I don't know how that happens. He's not this guy.
And that's with FFA up too, by the way.
If FFA died, bad.
Very bad.
FFA, Future Farmers Association, not what we were talking about.
FFA?
Two A's.
Hefe?
Hefe, also not what we were talking about.
A lot of opportunities, though.
But hope everybody's okay, obviously.
Good luck.
It's protocol.
That's a wild thing to think
about. Just planes having no fucking idea where
they are, what's going on.
Because you've got to report every airspace you go into.
You report, right?
Most of the time, these pilots are just doing this number here.
Then they've got their friends out here.
I've actually been on a couple planes that have just no view.
You just can't see anything because of the sun.
You're flying in the sun, so you've just got the whole front
just locked off. They're in their own little apartment so you just got the whole front just locked off.
They're in their own little apartment up there just chilling.
Yeah, autopilot, like that.
Boom, boom.
And all of a sudden, you get into a new space.
You got a whiskey.
Whiskey tango.
Tango coming through there.
Yep, gotcha.
Sorry, I just had to check into the airspace or whatever,
and then they're doing the next one.
So that's all done, I guess, because they couldn't contact to each other?
Right, yeah.
How's that happen?
Well, it's almost like there are robots in every airspace
flying around doing something.
So I think we could point to the birds that are probably messing with some sort of...
All right, so let's move to the NFL.
I thought you were going to actually talk about drones being a problem.
Drones problem.
I thought there was a chance you were going to say that,
but instead you went with your bird thing,
which is great and continues to be awesome.
A bunch of birds were gathered yesterday in Texas.
Connor, phone in my face.
What do you call that?
Gotcha.
I'm like, looks like a family reunion.
Flock of birds.
That's way too many birds.
That's way too many birds, isn't it?
I'm like, I have no idea.
Is that a lot of birds?
And they're all flying the same way.
Well, that's what birds do.
They don't all fly south of Texas, Tony.
I mean, that's not just a flock.
Connor, you tell me what's going on here.
This is what Connor told me.
You might be on the sun.
They might be recharging.
Thank you, D-Bot.
Finally.
Yeah.
Jesus. I think a tortilla truck just crashed over there. There you, D-Bot. Finally. Jesus.
I think a tortilla truck just crashed over there.
There's got to be better evidence than this.
That's what I said to him.
Connor came signed, sealed, delivered.
This is birds are fake.
This video right here to my face.
Foxy, I don't know.
You heard Darius just say it.
Darius just empowered him, though.
Yeah, he did.
Darius said, all right, let's see what you're saying.
And Connor, that gives him another, what, 10, 12 months of power.
Years, maybe. And not to mention, 10, 12 months of power. Years maybe.
And not to mention there were other videos where they weren't flying.
It was just a 10-second video.
No one moving.
Everyone just sitting on their power charging stations.
Napping, maybe resting, relaxing, hanging, waiting for something.
Team meeting you think this is?
Players only.
What about on top of the sign?
What are we concerned about here?
I don't know.
I have no idea.
Just a bunch of birds flying around.
You're telling me birds fly south to Texas?
They don't.
And they fly in similar patterns?
They don't go to Texas.
They go to Florida.
Just like old people.
Did you talk to them?
Uh-huh.
All right, let's go to my phone.
Hey, happy everything's going well in your theory.
Yeah, yeah.
We're building steam.
There's a large group of us that are feeling real good right now.
How come they just fly into cars?
Because they malfunction.
And then where's the blood?
They have fake blood in there, too?
There you go.
Like they're selling fake blood?
Bingo.
Like they bite on something in there that gives them like the Halloween.
When they're made, they gave them fake blood.
And how many times have you stopped at a dead bird?
Let me investigate this for a second.
Not very often.
Exactly.
That's why no one's catching on.
I guess we should ask Dahmer, right?
That was kind of Dahmer's thing.
That's right.
What about that bird that ran in front of Randy Johnson's pitch?
Yeah, what was that bird doing?
That was one of the last great ones, actually.
That was a devastation.
That was a true bummer when Randy Johnson killed that bird.
It wasn't Randy.
It was the bull.
That's right.
It was the bull.
For sure.
Did they show the blood?
I don't remember blood.
Oh, no.
That thing exploded into a thousand fucking pieces.
On the bird?
Did you?
Yeah.
Don't be.
Hey, we don't need you.
I just remember feathers.
We don't need you buying it.
No, but that's a great point.
I don't remember blood either.
I don't remember blood splatter.
I remember feathers, but.
Let's move on.
Think about it.
Sean McVay has said in a staff meeting,
he does not know what he will be
doing next year and has also told all of his coaches they can go seek employment elsewhere
you can go do interviews whatever you want to do because it is being reported that his future
is in limbo with the los angeles rams jeremy fowler of espn was reporting that a peter schrager
has a podcast he's very tight with mcveigh I think he said that there's no guarantees on next year for anything.
I think he was referring to media as opposed to rain.
I don't know what the future holds here for McVay.
Last year he was talked about because, obviously, McVay had won a Super Bowl.
He is the second coming, everybody believes, in football of John Gruden, obviously not the best emailer 10, 15 years ago to a toxic organization.
How about Snyder?
How about Snyder just saying, everybody's killing us.
Go through those 70,000 emails.
Find me a couple that aren't good.
You should see what we got on Gruden.
Fuck it.
Get it out of here.
Pretty much happened.
Gruden ends up getting fired.
He's in the middle
of a lawsuit with the NFL.
But when he was
in the Monday Night Football booth,
he was a game changer
for television.
He was built for television.
High energy,
great resume,
obviously football acumen
through the roof.
Had a full buy-in too
from the entire production room
and from everybody
that's on air.
This is John Gruden's show.
We're going to do everything.
He was mad in there for a while. they were building Monday Night Football around him so a lot of TV
execs and TV networks thought this McVay guy he has a lot of the same qualities just like Madden
he coached when he was young had success maybe he's burnt out right that's what happened with
Madden Madden goes to the TV booth changes changes the whole game, drives his bus everywhere, gets a video game, becomes
a voice of the NFL, teaches football
in, what is that,
USC? California?
Yeah, I think he was
USC coach. He became the face of football
for a while. Gruden, when he was at Monday Night Football,
it was the fucking John Gruden League,
basically, because of the spotlight
and how great he was at his gig. Then he got
Amazon trying to build an NFL network pretty much from scratch
because they're getting all the Thursday night games exclusively,
trying to forge a new road in this whole brand-new streaming NFL life
that we are currently about to live for the next hundred years,
hopefully, if we're all around that long, and the league is around that long.
Sean McVay was allegedly offered $20 million by Amazon last year to call 15
Thursday night football games.
Now that we're through those Thursday night football games,
we saw what those games were.
We saw how a lot of those things went.
Well,
Sean McVay make that game more must see.
That is what networks are going to have to chat about.
And then you start bouncing around to where you potentially get hired.
Is TV the option for him right now?
NBC's got, what, Collinsworth-Tarico in their first year on Sunday Night Football.
CBS got Tony Romo and Jim Nance.
They're paying Tony Romo $17 million, I think.
Jim Nance is making over $10 because of the Tony Romo deal.
Then you go to Fox.
You've got fucking Greg Olson
sitting in place for Tom Brady
who might be coming
and who's the
he's going to be with Tom
Olson's calling the Super Bowl
Olson's pretty good
I'm a big fan
of Olson
you go to ESPN and I guess I would also count
ABC because if ABC is going to get
the Super Bowl, you got Troy Aikman and Joe Buck who have been together for 30 years.
Amazon's got a Black Friday game coming up, I guess. You can talk about that. CBS has other
crews. Obviously, Fox has other crews. But I don't know where that potential gig would be that was
there last year when it was maybe $20 million. Not saying that he's going to regret turning down
the $20 million. Allegedly, this is going to regret turning down the $20 million.
Allegedly, this is all being reported.
Who knows?
We were in the middle of a conversation with Amazon at the same exact time,
so that was a great piece of information to leak.
Whoever leaked it, we do appreciate the hell out of that.
Thank you.
But I don't know if this is the right year.
It's almost like some years you need a quarterback,
and it just so happens the draft class doesn't. Like, hey, this just isn't a good year.
It's almost like if he was to go to TV, I don't know where he would go right now that's a good question but i feel like he would be great great
great on tv obviously you know he was you know the golden child in the nfl couple super bowl
appearances got all those other guys hired um that kind of i guess came from his tree or ran a
similar offense um i would love to see him on tv but i don't see too i wouldn't see him there for
long honestly i would see him maybe maybe two years and then right back into coaching.
So they thought that was going to happen with Madden.
Madden stuck with it.
Gruden stuck with it for like 10 years or whatever.
He was in there a long time, but he inevitably had to get back into it.
Go ahead, Tom.
I'm thinking, is this just a really good way to get rid of your entire coaching staff
that you don't feel like is cutting it because they've all been picked
and gone to other teams without having to be the bad guy and firing and be like, hey, you guys go ahead,
man. I don't know what I'm going to do next year. But I want to know if Raheem Morris stays or not,
because I know Raheem Morris is a great DC. So maybe he's like, hey, Raheem, we're coming back.
Super baby face out of firing people, if this is what it is. And you would call upon your media
friends to be like,
hey, I don't know what I'm going to do.
Let everyone know.
Let them know that.
That'd be a great play by Sean McVay.
If you guys get a job, go ahead and get on it.
Jeez.
And honestly, I don't know what my future looks like.
$20 million last offseason.
TV's gotten worse, probably more.
Go do your thing. Raheem, he's getting interviewed by the Colts, I believe, today or tomorrow.
Okay, so maybe.
A few places.
There are some interviews happening today for the Indianapolis Colts,
I assume for other places happening today.
There's a lot going on.
We could maybe get that answer soon.
Would have never thought of that.
That's why I'm happy you're here.
Yeah.
What do you got, Connor?
It'd be exactly like the Bucs.
He could be like, hey, I wouldn't feel comfortable in a few years,
you know, giving this team over.
That doesn't have all these vets, you know.
They'll still have Stafford and Donald and Cooper Cupp.
So maybe if Raheem Morris doesn't get any of those jobs,
McVay might just pass the baton.
Hey, I'm comfortable giving this team away because I know they'll be good.
Bruce Arians was coach for 50 years when he handed the baton over.
Yeah.
What's Sean McVay doing?
He's handing the baton over and then just chilling?
No, no.
Then he's joining TV.
I assume, and
maybe this is not
the exact right way to think, but
if Collinsworth hasn't signed
an extension, maybe pair him with
Tirico. It was their first year. It's not as
if they're tied to the hip.
Is Collinsworth up? Collinsworth
ain't going anywhere. I don't know what his contract
is. Oh, so you... Well, there was
one video that popped up with NBC with Collinsworth
that I figured maybe there was some backlash towards.
So Collinsworth, the whole thought about Collinsworth,
I think they kept him around in the booth for like continuity purposes
because of losing on Michaels.
And I think Collinsworth is good personally.
I don't think he's –
Me too.
I was not shocked.
I don't think he's the one that we need to push out of any of these spots.
But at the time being, maybe he's just going to relax and enjoy life a little bit too.
You know, like Sean Payton, he retired.
Everybody's assuming he wants to get back into football as soon as possible.
He did that kickoff show for Fox.
He said he enjoyed it, had a blast doing it.
Maybe Sean McVay's just looking for a restart.
I have no idea.
Pat, could McVay fill a similar role that Payton did for Fox with Amazon's coverage,
with the panel that's all the players and Carissa Thompson?
They don't have a head coach on there.
Maybe he could fill that role for them.
Oh, you said Sean Peyton because we were just talking about Sean Peyton.
I thought you were talking about Peyton Manning.
No, sorry, Sean Peyton.
I immediately thought like that.
Some sort of McVay cast.
To your point, the thing the not needing a quarterback like
that's that's a perfect analogy because no no network is going to pay him premium a premium
price and then have him be like the third gate like if he's getting 20 million from somewhere
like that maybe it's not even a money though yeah no maybe it's a jesus wants a reset for sure for
sure but just from why would you at that age with a head coaching job?
There's only 32 of them.
You're in L.A.
He seems like just from the outside looking in,
he seems like he is just obsessed with this shit, like all in.
So a break would be good for him.
And then, I mean, the Stafford already let him know, like, hey.
So that's a good transition right there because Stafford was on game day
because obviously George is playing
I don't know if you saw it, check down at a video of
Matthew Stafford, Stetson Bennett
Kirby Smart celebrating
in the hallway and
David Coonan
of course
the video ends with David Coonan's
face literally the whole
because I saw Stafford
and this is a very inside joke.
Sure.
Except for, for a lot of people that know fucking David Coonan.
David Coonan is a weapon of a human, also an agent at CAA.
He went to Georgia, knows Stafford well.
So whenever I saw Stafford dapping up in the video, I was like, oh, there's Coonan right there in the back.
There's Coonan.
Boom.
Right on the left.
No, no.
Bald guy. We know bald guy too. Bald guy, good guy too. He's a part's Coonan right there in the back. Boom, right on the left. No, no, bald guy.
We know bald guy, too.
Bald guy, good guy, too.
He's part of Coonan's friends group.
At the end of this video, though, yeah, that's Coonan right there.
End of the video, if this is the one on check down, his face is literally the entire video.
They'll do a photo.
Kirby Smart will get out of the way.
He just hits a camera.
They'll take a photo. Kirby Smart goes, all right, now you two dogs take a photo. All right, here we go. All right, Coonan, get in camera they'll take a photo kirby smart goes all right now you two dogs take
photo yeah all right here we go get in here he takes a photo just wait towards the end be ready
for the pause you'll see it it'll be there's patrick 40 in the back met him this weekend he
was cool boom boom boom that's david coonan ah he's awesome oh yeah dude coonan. Ah, he's awesome. Oh, yeah. What a legend. Coonan is a legend.
As I was watching that, I was so incredibly excited to like, where's Coonan?
Oh, there's Coonan.
And then, oh, Coonan's the whole video.
That's fantastic.
But that is something like TV.
Maybe it's not about – maybe you did learn about Stafford.
And Stafford was on game day, and I asked Stafford, actually, you look healthy.
You look real healthy over there.
He has to know that every human in the football world is talking about,
like, no offense, Staff.
We understand how good you are and how great the game has been to you
and how long you've been kind of submerged by football
and your whole life is football.
And Steve Young talked to Tom Brady about it on the Let's Go podcast. And Steve Young talked about it on Monday Night Football whenever they were
calling a Buccaneers game about how hard retirement is. And you're a sack of bones at the bottom of a
cliff is what Steve Young said after you retire. Just beat up, banged up, and you know that life
will never be the way it was when you're an NFL quarterback, when you're giving your entire life to something,
and they're also giving you everything you need to be successful.
So whenever you're a quarterback and you retire,
especially whenever you've been that successful that long,
it's like, I guess, devastating.
I would never know, obviously, because I was not.
I mean, I was a pretty good quarterback on Thanksgiving,
but you get what I'm saying.
Steve Young said it was terrible.
Tom Brady talked about how it's not fun at all.
Aaron's going through that right now.
They were talking about it for Aaron Rodgers that's been having this conversation.
If you listen to Aaron, like the last two, three years he's been having this conversation,
it's not easy at all, especially whenever you've been fluffed literally and figuratively up above everybody
for your entire life as a quarterback.
And you're great.
So think about how much they've been kind of lifted,
the life they've got to live to stare it down.
Matthew Stafford's going through that same shit.
You know what I mean?
Matthew Stafford's going to have to go through that same shit. Just a Texas boy.
Love football.
Finally has the notoriety, I think, from the entire world
after going to L.A., win a Super Bowl.
Has the Hall of Fame resume signed, sealed,
delivered, has made $50 million since 2009. He's been making so much money, earned all this money,
obviously. The injuries, his family, obviously his wife has a podcast in which she talks about
what it's like to be the wife and the spouse of a man who goes
out there and gets his ass beat. So it's obviously a conversation that has been chatted about. So I
think he knows that we're all wondering what the hell he's going to do. Maybe this is. McVay has
a little bit of an inside clue that he's no longer going to have Matthew Stafford. He's going to have
to figure out the rebuild Ole Miss going forward and doesn't want to be a part of it. Maybe it is
a reset, just like kind of what Peyton did in New Orleans.
He was like, I don't have my quarterback anymore.
They have a full reset.
That's not what I want to be a part of.
Maybe that's what McVay is.
But also, I don't think we know what Stafford's going to do.
He was supposed to come on the megacast on the field with us.
Sure.
He was pitched.
Not supposed to come on.
We did not expect him to come on whenever the game started.
He was pitched.
Would you want him?
We said yes.
He ended up not coming on.
All we talked about whenever we thought he was going to come on was how we were going to ask him how the fuck, if he's playing or not.
Over and over.
The game was already 30-point.
So we're trying to figure out, hey, this is, listen, let's be selfish here.
This is a simulcast of this college football national championship.
But tomorrow, we're going to be talking about
what Stafford's doing. So let's try to get a lean. Let's try to read some
body language. When he gives an answer, let's not be scared to give a little,
because we love Matthew Stafford, big fans of Matthew Stafford, the way he goes about everything. Never been on the show,
but big fans of what he's accomplished and everything.
That is a massive piece.
Huge.
What you just brought up.
Maybe he is.
Is Matthew Stafford retiring?
Is that why Sean McVay is willing to leave?
Or is he waiting to hear what Matthew Stafford is doing
so he doesn't want to hold everybody back and say,
hey, you can go do what you got to do because we don't know what we're doing yet
because we are me waiting on Matthew Stafford to tell us what the hell we're doing.
But allegedly he's been talking about coming back this whole time.
Yeah, and if you're McVay and maybe Stafford is coming back, maybe he's not.
You really don't have any of those picks because they went all in in one Super Bowl and it worked.
And there has to be that other thought process too where he's just getting married.
Maybe he wants to start a family.
And whether he wants to coach or work in TV, just taking that year off,
I feel like it's just such a clean reset. Be with your wife, be with possibly
a baby if you're having one, and then kind of going from there. Because I mean, we've seen a lot of
coaches take a year off and then come back and be completely okay. Doug Peterson just
did it, and who knows if... He got fired, kind of, didn't he? Yeah, he got fired, but then he took that year where
he wasn't doing any interviews, not doing anything, and then he came back, kind of got to pick his
job. Was that a firing, officially?
I believe.
Or was it a separation?
Yeah, I think a mutually parting of ways.
That place is burning down.
And now they're back.
Number one seed in the NFC.
Good for the Eagles.
The reports are fired.
Okay, so he gets fired, though.
Sean McVay just stepping away as one of the 32 at the age that he's at.
That would be interesting.
Just to do nothing?
Yes. That would be awesome. I'd be interesting. Just to do nothing? Yes.
That would be awesome.
I'd be excited to talk to him sometime about that.
But if he did that, there would be a lot of, what is this?
Why are you doing that?
I'd like to make Vaze QB camp or like a details or something like that,
even if he's not doing play-by-play.
I mean, anything he would do just talking ball would be amazing.
I agree.
All right, we got to bounce.
You're 100% right with that.
I hope he does something.
Hey, McVay, we're big fans, dude.
Hope you stick around in the football universe.
If you end up leaving and just disappearing for a couple years,
also a fucking legend.
Yeah, I was a head coach.
It was fucking so much.
I just had to get out of there.
He knows, too, when he comes back,
what some team is going to pay for him.
He doesn't have to, you know what I mean?
Resume, sign, seal, delay.
Exactly.
You talk about 20 mil for TV.
He'll get whatever the fuck he wants.
We know contract, how many years he has with the Rams,
like contract-wise?
He's just got extension.
Yeah, it was like a five-year or four or five-year.
So he'll still have his rights then when he...
Yeah, they'll just have to trade it away,
just like everybody's...
2021? 2026, he's under contract, too. Okay, so four or five. So he'll still have his rights then when he... Yeah, they'll just have to trade it away just like everybody's... 2021?
2026, he's under contract.
Yeah, four more years.
A couple first-round picks.
What if he retires? Week later,
the Waltons in Denver.
Oh, yeah. Hey, what's up?
Great move. Appreciate what you did.
Yeah, we'll pay it back. Don't worry about it.
I don't retire. There's $50 million.
We don't have any first-round picks because we got Russell Wilson,
but we'll give away 2027, 2028, whatever.
We'll deal with that later.
Perfect.
Is that going to be a new way for coaches to get out of their position
and get somewhere else?
Potentially.
I mean, Sean Payton's doing it, right?
Sean Payton's doing it right now.
Like, I don't want to do this anymore.
Get me out of here.
I'm going to go do TV.
Then every team is going to try to be courting me back the whole entire year,
just like the Colts.
Harbaugh did it, I guess, with the Michigan Wolverines.
We shall continue to pay attention to that, but now we turn our attention to, you know,
a little bit better journalism.
This is a segment we created strictly because we wanted to talk to beat writers from each
team, but we're more so of a national dumbass show where we just kind of take like higher level views at things and by higher level i don't mean more intelligent i mean just
more zoomed out we do our thing we wanted to get down into the weeds though with these teams so we
created an entire segment called feeling the beat today.
Hell yeah.
This is so we can go bounce around.
Beat reporters, the beat reporters will be bopping our beats.
Ladies and gentlemen, joining us first from the Niners for the Athletic,
also at Lombardi himself on Twitter, David Lombardi.
Yeah, dude!
Lombo, what's going on, dude?
What's going on?
Hey, Pat, first I wanted to say congratulations.
I haven't been on this show in a couple months, but to you and your wife, like the baby.
So I saw that back in November, so congratulations to you.
And, you know, today, you can't really see it in the frame, but we got a jersey.
Here, let me get this in the frame.
There you go.
I see that.
Yeah, you bought that like an auction thing? No,'t i went to stanford when andrew left we we have your old
teammate up here today for the show how nice would that have been if he just you know never
got his absolute ass kicked every game he played in the nfl that would have been great lombo that
would be great yeah you know they invested in that offensive line too late.
It was sad.
You went to Stanford?
I didn't know that.
I didn't know you went to Stanford.
Did anybody in your class just, like, create something that we're all using?
We're on TikTok today.
Did I assume that was one of your – no, I heard TikTok.
I mean, I went to school with, like, people who were inventing new prime numbers
and stuff.
You feel so inferior when you're at Stanford. I mean it's crazy but i'm uh richard sherman's age so sherman and i are in
the same class at at stanford and toby gerhart was our age and i was a couple years younger than us
so that you know jim that that's kind of how i got my journalism career started i was covering
the football team as a student radio announcer when harbaugh came in they're one and 11 sherman's first year which was also my freshman year and then they beat usc and
that big upset and uh really just took off oh seven going forward well sherman was a wide receiver
then too whenever you got to town then he flips over to he was yeah and obviously because against
usc in oh seven he caught the fourth and 20 a receiver, he picked up 20 yards and one inch, and that really led to that
upset that set up the game-winning touchdown. Yeah, a kid from Compton playing against
USC, making a big play freshman year. That's huge. Happy for him. Obviously, that's what
Sherm would do. I didn't know you had that big of a brain.
Hey, wait a minute. We do not go to Stanford or get accepted to Stanford, but we do
call upon you to give us some information.
Seems like the Niners are the hottest team in the NFL right now.
All things are rolling.
Is it like that behind the scenes at practice?
This team seems to love each other.
This seems to be all the way back.
And it seems like they're the team that's going to go out of the NFC.
Is that what it feels like?
Boots on the ground, Mr. Lombardi.
Well, if you want to step into the locker room, it's funny because today,
the article just came out today. I was working on a big feature over the past several
weeks. After every single game, it's one of the coolest things that I've seen in a locker room.
Trent Williams and Nick Bosa have lockers on opposite ends of the room, but Nick Bosa,
after every single game, pulls up a chair, sits down across from Trent Williams, and even when the media comes
in, they're still there chopping up the game.
And it's become this tradition, and so I talked to both of them about it, and I mean, this
is the best offensive lineman in football, and what I think is the best defensive lineman
in football, chopping it up.
Against Washington, after that game a couple weeks ago, Christian McCaffrey swung by.
And then they have George Kittle on the team.
There's just so much star power on that team.
But within the locker room itself, they're trading ideas.
You know, I know it's a cliche, iron sharpens iron, but you see it in the locker room.
So I had to write about it because Trent Williams is sitting there with Nick Bosa after every game.
And, I mean, these guys, they're humble, you know.
So I think the vibe around the 49ers is a really good one because they have the talent,
but they also seem to have that camaraderie and that collaboration going on, which is special to me.
Yeah, it's not easy to find, especially when you've got a bunch of superstars.
Obviously, it helps whenever you're winning.
Thinking about Trent and Bosa sharing game to each other is alarming to everybody else in the NFL, I would assume.
It sounds like it happens on a very regular basis.
Let's talk about that quarterback, Mr. Irrelevant.
Does he ever stop in there and try to learn more about football?
Seemingly a 30-year vet at this very young age.
What does the team feel about him, and how does he look?
It seems like he's never rattled.
Is that an accurate depiction of old Brock Purdy?
Yeah, and it's funny because it's a very Bay Area thing. He has two
roommates that are also on the team. That's awesome. Starting quarterback of the San Francisco 49ers,
that's not roommates. That's kind of what the housing market looks like here. But they made
a Christmas card a couple weeks ago for the entire locker room. And it was really funny because
they're handing out the Christmas card, Brock Purdy and his two roommates. They're handing out the Christmas card while the media was in the locker room.
So George Kittle announced that Brock Purdy is going to get fined because that he's look at me.
He shouldn't have handed out the Christmas card.
Oh, yeah, of course.
It's really they got this camaraderie back and forth.
They love Brock Purdy, but they also have this, you know, college like vibe where, you vibe where they keep guys in check in a fun-loving
way.
And I think that the skill set of Brock Purdy is really interesting because he does a lot
of the stuff that Jimmy Garoppolo did well, like quick release, good on the short passes.
But he's also more athletic than Jimmy Garoppolo.
He's got a really, really quick 10-yard burst, which I don't
think people realize. He was a 4'9", 40 guy, which is good for a quarterback, but his 10-yard split
is 1'5", 5", which normally translates to like 4'4". So he can get out of the pocket and he's really
added a different dimension to this offense. And I think personality-wise he fits in and
skill set-wise, it's obviously been seamless for the 49ers he's quick but not
fast that's all you need from your quarterback i i enjoy those numbers and analytics darius butler
has a question for you pal david obviously best defense in the league this year domico ryan's uh
he'll be a hot name on his head coaching um you know cycle i guess in the offseason but uh what
do you think the chances are he actually stays and tries to go on the run with shanahan maybe
win a couple championships back back-to-back?
Well, you know, it just depends on what opportunities open up.
There's already a report that the Texans wanted him,
but he's not interested.
And I think that he's, you know,
dealing with a position of leverage right now, right?
You don't want to go to a train wreck
because that could end your first head coaching bid real quick.
And then, you know, it could be hard to get the head coaching career kickstarted after that.
So I think that we saw, I can't remember exactly, but I think that we saw Robert Sala stay an extra year with the 49ers.
Last year, D'Amico Ryan...
He's wishing he stayed more.
Last year, D'Amico Ryan is already doing some interviewing for some jobs,
but he decided to stay another year.
So it is possible, but it all really depends on the opportunity.
If he sees a good one where he thinks he can get a good kickstart to a coaching career,
I would expect D'Amico Ryans to take it.
Good luck out there, D'Amico.
Absolutely gorgeous defense there, Ryan.
Amazing.
They're so fast, so physical, and talk so much shit.
I love everything about them, and D'Amico's their leader.
Obviously, people should be looking at him to come run their camp,
like the Indianapolis Colts maybe.
Connor, your question for Lambeau.
Last one here.
Yeah, Dave, obviously Jimmy G's a free agent,
but if Purdy goes on to win the Super Bowl,
what the hell happens to both him and Trey Lance?
Well, they have both of them under contract for cheap, Trey Lance and Purdy,
not Garoppolo.
Garoppolo's going to be a free agent unrestricted.
So the 49ers love the fact that they have quarterback option power.
It saved their season this year, right?
I remember we were talking during training camp about Garoppolo and Lance
after they were able to re-sign Garoppolo. And the 49ers lucked into that. They didn't think
they were going to be able to keep Jimmy. And that ended up saving their season because I don't know
if Purdy would have been ready to step in for Trey Lance the way that he stepped in back in week two.
So I feel that this team views the QB position like the running back position. Just stack as many
good players as you can it was
possible because Garoppolo came back at a discount this year and it's going to be possible to stack
the position because you have both Purdy and Lance under rookie deals next year if they win the Super
Bowl though I mean right now Purdy is ahead of Lance I think on that depth chart Lance is going
to have to make up ground over the offseason but they're going to have both of these guys on the team. Okay, so quickly, Debo healthy, Christian healthy,
Ayuk healthy, Kittle healthy, Mitchell healthy, offensive line healthy, Purdy healthy, Kittle
healthy, defense healthy? Yeah, the only real loss, and that was a season-ending loss, was Emmanuel Mosley, their starting corner.
That was back in week five, ACL.
So that's the one potential weakness is that second cornerback spot.
But, yeah, you're right.
Everybody else, they're locked, loaded, ready to go.
Good luck on this playoff run.
We appreciate you joining us.
You Stanford card.
Ladies and gentlemen, David Lombardi.
Yeah, boo!
That was awesome.
Yeah.
Niners. Him describing Kittle talking, you know what Iardi. Yeah. That was awesome. Yeah. Niners.
Him describing Kittle talking, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
That was awesome.
He was impersonating Kittle being sarcastic.
I enjoyed that moment there.
You know what I mean?
Stanford card.
Did we know that?
I don't think so.
I didn't know that.
I don't know.
I had no idea.
That looked like an auction jersey.
It did a little bit.
It was right across the bottom of the two there.
Just on a hanger.
So I thought he was coming and talking shit that our team's been fucked since that guy retired and hung it up.
Check it out.
Ladies and gentlemen, it's time to feel the beat.
We haven't done this segment in a long time.
You guys have been right on feeling the beat.
Hard to forget.
Remember Wiz Khalifa, Radio Row.
He goes, on me, white people.
Whenever we had a concert at Radio Row last year at the Super Bowl. And now no fans are allowed in Radio Row.
Is that because of us?
I guess we'll never know.
But we can assume so
with the way we acted.
Yeah, I mean,
we were really,
we abused that.
Well, hey,
they made the rules
we operated within.
Yeah.
Can you please write down
what we're allowed to do,
what we're not allowed to do?
We just need to know
where we can go with this.
Can we explore the space, as A.J. Hawk would say?
And we did.
Had to.
Just had a Wiz Khalifa concert at fucking Radio Row with, what, 70 fans?
Probably packed into an area where they were—70 was allowed in the whole building.
Yep.
Packed into probably just a 10-person area.
Oh, yeah.
Radio shows in the
background. Uh-huh. Yeah, I'm sure they weren't
happy, but... No fans allowed
now going forward. Yeah.
We'll be back at Radio Row. Excited to see what we do, but nonetheless,
great beat work, fellas.
Joining us now is a regular on this particular
segment. He is an Italian
man. He is from Buffalo.
He is a gem. Ladies and gentlemen,
Sal Capaccio.
Yeah!
What's up, guys?
Always great to join you, man.
Appreciate you reaching out.
Hey, we know that your voice sounds so good because of that microphone. We've been trying to build that rig for everybody we have on the road.
We can't figure it out.
It might be your magic touch there, too, Sal.
Yeah.
In fact, a shout-out to the engineers down at my radio station, WGR 550,
for helping me out because I need this for all the different work that I do. But always good
to join in. Of course, a lot of news coming out of One Bill's Drive today, of course.
Okay. So obviously, practice is happening right now. You're taking a break to come talk to us.
Let's not abuse your time. Tamar Hamlin, all signs seemingly very positive, Sal. Is that
what we're learning? And is that how you're experiencing it,
and what are the next steps from your side?
It's pretty amazing, actually.
You think about this happened, what, 10 days ago down Monday night in Cincinnati.
We all saw it.
We all saw what happened.
He's now been discharged from Buffalo General Hospital here in Buffalo,
which is absolutely amazing.
Yeah, he's home, and he's going to be able to join his teammates and his family,
at some point his teammates.
We'll see how that goes, but it's amazing news, the recovery.
Doctors have been awesome and really transparent, telling us all the steps along the way.
Of course, it's been positive news all the steps along the way since Monday night last week
when everybody was very, very concerned, obviously, because of what happened with DeMar.
But it's great to see, and he has a great family and a great team by his side.
Yeah, it's been a hell of a ride there for DeMar Hamlin that we've all experienced,
and we are so incredibly pumped.
It seems seemingly back to normal much sooner than any of us could have guessed.
Tony Diggs has a question for you, Paisan.
Sal, I saw somewhere that Josh Allen said that he didn't care about the bye.
Is that the whole team's mindset after the situation that, I mean,
what happened happened, the bye, they don't care?
Well, you know, you guys know the cliche, what people always say,
we can only control what we can control, right?
And I think that's really been the mantra here under Sean McDermott
since he's taken over in 2017.
I think that does permeate throughout this organization, which is, hey,
if we don't have the bye, then we go out there and play.
If we get the bye, then we'll sit back and wait to see who we play. But I think
really going through what everybody went through on Monday night, and I was down in that field in
Cincinnati and seeing these guys and what they went through, I think that it's just they're
feeling so great to be able to get on the field together again and have such great news about
DeMar that that's what's important to them is to be there for their brother and their teammate,
not worrying about bye weeks or where they're playing or
anything like that just being able to go out there play football again and have some positive news to
feel really encouraged about all this hell yeah that sounds like the right mindset going into the
most important time of the year we did think there was a chance bill's chief was going to be in
indianapolis though i don't know if you knew that so we thought we're going to get you maybe in
studio i wanted it man i wanted to be there i thought indy a great spot. Got a volleyball tournament or something going on there.
Hey, listen, from my perspective, too,
I mean, hey, dome instead of
cold weather. I'd love it here in Buffalo, but anywhere else
I'd rather have a dome than cold weather, I'll tell you that.
Yeah, it's almost like a perfect spot. It's right in the middle, too.
Easy to get to.
Very easy to get to.
AJ Hawk's niece is playing in that
volleyball tournament.
We must remember that there's good things happening in the city.
Has that been discussed at all on your guys' end?
That's so far away, I guess, for the team.
But how about reporting-wise?
Have you guys heard about where it could potentially be,
the neutral site game that could happen, AFC Championship,
if you guys play the Chiefs?
Yeah, I'll give credit to Bob Fesco out in Kansas City.
He was on our radio station this morning.
I talked with him, and he said he's hearing Atlanta is very much in play.
Maybe New Orleans could be a backup.
He said that the Chiefs don't want to travel east.
The Bills don't want to travel west.
This is actually about an 800 to 900-mile trip, either city,
plus because of all the different places that said no, like Indy, like Detroit,
all the different buildings that you have to account for.
Those teams could be playing at that weekend.
You can't really go that route.
So he's hearing Atlanta.
So we'll see.
We'll see how this all shakes out.
But obviously they have a lot of experience hosting big-time games as well.
Yeah, and it's very easy to get to for both fans.
I mean, that is a port.
That's right.
You know what I mean?
So it's easy to get to.
Hopefully it will be the most fair.
But it's a damn shame it's not happening in Indy.
Congratulations to Atlanta.
Ty, I have a question for you.
Sal, we know you have to go soon.
Sal, obviously the Bills lose Von Miller early,
and Jordan Poyer has kind of been banged up off and on all year.
In terms of the overall health of the team,
how are the Bills looking going into this weekend's game against the Dolphins?
As healthy as they've been aside from that, right?
We know that they don't have Von Miller, and that's obviously been a big loss.
But I'm not sure if you guys know because this just happened while you were on the air.
Huge, huge breaking news from down here.
Micah Hyde is going to start practicing today with the team.
Okay, that's huge.
That is big, Sal.
Welcome back.
I'm glad I was able to tell your listeners here.
I didn't know if you knew that.
Both Micah Hyde and Jamison Crowder are going to be on the practice field today.
They're out there actually about just maybe a couple hundred yards from where I am right now.
Their 21-day window has opened.
Sean McDermott did say neither will play on Sunday.
Obviously, the hope is you get through Miami,
and then maybe you have Micah Hyde available against the Cincinnati Bengals
and all those weapons, and of course, then against the Kansas City Chiefs.
But this is miraculous.
It really is.
Micah Hyde was injured just about four months ago, Monday night,
against the Tennessee Titans.
He was placed on injured reserve.
Most people thought he was not going to
play until next season. He talked like that.
It was the hashtag 23 and 23.
Well, I guess it is 2023.
Micah Hyde returning to the field today.
He saw it differently than you guys saw it. You guys thought it was a
season. He said, as soon as that ball drops, baby,
I'm getting back out there. That's an amazing thing.
That's great news for the Buffalo Bills.
Sal, we can't thank you
enough for joining us.
We hope you have an incredible run here.
Miami, you know, they're banged up.
They got Skyler Thompson allegedly going to be quarterback.
That doesn't matter to this Bills team, right?
This Bills team is going to do what they have to do.
They still haven't won shit yet, right?
That's kind of the mindset?
Hey, that's exactly the mindset, which is we're going to do what we have to do,
and we're going to prepare for every team the same way,
and they're going to be focused.
We just talked with Sean McDermott.
By the way, today is the six-year anniversary of Sean McDermott being hired by the Buffalo Bills.
For what he did in 2017, to take a team that people thought was tanking in 2017 to go to the playoffs,
and then, of course, a bit of a step back in 2018, Josh's rookie year,
and then it's been full steam ahead.
Of course, they've come up short the last couple of years.
We know that. This team has learned a lot through all those situations they've been in
they're more of a veteran team now and they're going to be going out to play Miami no matter
who's playing under center to Skyler Thompson Teddy with the same mindset and that is to try
and bring home a Lombardi but first steps first and that's to beat the Miami Dolphins. Dolphins
got a win against the Bills this year already now obviously it's a much different looking team now
than they were then but the Bills will handle their business, hopefully, for Sal Capaccio.
Thank you, buddy.
I'd love it for me and everybody in Buffalo.
Thanks, guys.
Hey, hell yeah.
Cheers, Sal.
Sal is Buffalo.
Yeah, he's Buffalonian.
He's one of them.
Yeah, he did say Buffalonian, brother.
He did.
Then he dropped a full.
I'm a true Buffalonian, brother.
I went to school here.
My kid's going to school here. My kids go to school here.
How about how good his fucking microphone is?
He is a consummate professional.
Sounds better than all of us.
Yeah.
In the studio.
With wires just hardwired into here.
He sounds better through his whatever the hell that is.
Try to give him credit.
He just defers.
Oh, yeah.
It's WGNR 530 engineers.
Yeah.
I'd love to shout out Bob Fesco in Kansas City.
He actually told us this morning.
Atlanta.
Atlanta's doing it.
I want to get into you much closer.
Atlanta's the right play, though.
Literally, everybody has a direct flight to Atlanta.
Yeah, true.
Not that the players are going to have to use it.
I'm talking about fans, though, have a direct flight to Atlanta.
Not that bad of a trip for anybody.
And Atlanta's set up to host shit regardless.
And that stadium is unbelievable.
And Atlanta does business.
That's right.
They understand.
They're going to say yes to an AFC championship game coming to town.
There's more money to the city?
Sure.
And you're doing the NFL a favor.
Right.
Not that that's how business operates, but that's how, yeah,
that's how,
that's how business operates.
Yeah.
You scratched my back.
Could have been India.
I was like the first,
I think it was the first,
first location pitch.
Thanks a lot,
Hogset.
Is it the mayor?
Is that,
is he still the mayor?
I don't know,
but let's,
yeah,
cause it,
uh,
allegedly.
Yes.
City owned.
Bingo.
With what we have learned.
Bingo.
We don't know if that is.
Nonetheless, let's get out of Indianapolis.
Let's get out of Buffalo.
Let's go over to Jersey and New York.
Ladies and gentlemen, it's time to feel the beat.
Felt like you guys had it.
Yeah, yeah.
Early, a little quick, I thought.
You guys adjusted in real time, though.
It might have been me quick on the gun there.
Really?
I almost messed up on the second one, too, and I let them take it.
I just followed Ty.
Oh, so you just had your ears in.
You're like, let me let the drummer get me back on beat.
And then you came back in there.
Usually I wear one ear so I can hear how I sound.
How come all the singers that are bad at singing always have an issue with these things?
You know what I mean?
And all the people that are good at singing, I don't ever really see them have that much trouble.
Is it because they're being forced to hear themselves sing?
Good question.
It's a great question.
All right, let's move along.
Ladies and gentlemen, let's continue to feel the beat.
Giants beat writer for the record and NewJersey.com.
An absolute icon in the Giants fandom base, Art Stapleton.
Yeah!
What's up, fellas? How you doing?
Coming from the shadows
of New York City.
Apologize for the lighting.
You look awesome.
I just wasn't expecting that.
You look like somebody getting interviewed for an interrogation
right now. I can't see the face, You look like somebody getting interviewed for an interrogation right now.
I can't see the face, but the voice sounds great.
And the silhouette is fantastic.
Any better? Any better?
Yeah, that was it. Thank you so much.
It did work. You fixed it. We appreciate that.
Art, thank you for joining us.
This Giants team making the playoffs is bananas. Obviously, Daybo and Wink have done an incredible job
of bringing in an entire new culture.
Danny Dimes has played great this year.
Is this the new standard for the Giants,
and is this what the team is going to look like next year as well
with Danny, a quarterback, in your eyes,
regardless of what happens this weekend, Art?
Well, to be honest, Pat, I'm shocked you brought me back
because the last time I was on, I told you they'd win six games
and would finish last in the division.
Oh, you weren't the only one.
Yeah.
Or you weren't the only one.
I appreciate the mulligan.
I appreciate the mulligan.
I do think that this is a start of something a lot bigger for the Giants.
I think, you know, Daniel Jones, as you mentioned,
I think he's done enough to be the guy for next year.
I think he's convinced the new regime here with Brian Dable and Joe Shane, general manager. But Brian Dable was also
asked if this is house money going into this weekend in Minnesota. And he didn't like that
phrasing. The Giants believe they have unfinished business going back to Minnesota. So I do think
that this team has won nine games. And I think that they believe they can get on a little bit of a run here
against the Vikings that they thought they should have won that game on Christmas Eve.
Yeah, it's fascinating because Dayball obviously looks like he would be
any White's uncle at a party that was having the most lit time.
Yep.
You know what I mean?
Like that is what he looks like.
Is that what it is?
Is that the vibes? Why are they so
much better this year than they have been in the past?
What has been brought by Dable and Wink, you think?
I think Dable
number one, built a great
coaching staff. You mentioned Wink. I think Mike
Kafka was the right
spot, a right fit.
When you look at what Dable did,
look, he's an offensive guy. We know what he did in Buffalo.
Dable could have looked at a situation and said,
I'm going to call the offense.
This is my offense.
He didn't do that.
He built a coaching staff based on the coaches that he was bringing in
and not necessarily his buddies or anything else like that.
And I think he's remained very consistent this year
because they didn't have those expectations.
He didn't walk in talking Super Bowls and how we're going to get the Giants back to
where they used to be.
He just said we were going to be consistent, do our job every week.
It started in week one.
He earned the trust of the players by going for two down in Tennessee, if you guys think
all the way back.
That was the tone setter.
He said, look, every week we are going to go in to win a football game and we're going
to follow our plan.
And I think his consistency and his alignment with the front office certainly has made a huge difference here
with the giants because they have not had that alignment uh in several seasons uh we have a guy
in our show named brucey branovic who is an absolutely obsessed giants fan been a tough go
for a long time yeah since the Eli Tyree days or whatever.
He's all the way back and living
his best life. Croatia did well
in the World Cup. He's living.
Giants are in the playoffs. He's living.
He said he was going to cut a
Fu Manchu to pay
respect to Dayball if they made the playoffs.
He has not done that, so it might be all Fugues.
But he has a question for you, Art
Stapleton. Yeah, hey, Art. Huge fan. First question. Do you have a it might be all for the gays. But he has a question for you, Art Stapleton.
Yeah, hey, Art, huge fan.
First question, do you have a goatee going for the playoffs?
Looks like you might.
Can't really tell.
And then the D-line there, is everybody healthy?
Leonard Williams with the neck, I know. Is he going to be good to go and everybody getting that pass rush going?
All right, Bruce.
All right, Bruce.
Go shave.
No, I'm not clean shaving, but I'm not going to go with the Dable goatee,
although I might go all the way down if they win a couple games to honor Dable.
Hey, lift your arm up real quick.
Can you lift your arm up again?
Oh!
There he is.
So you put your hands up, your face becomes light, and we can see it all.
That's what just happened there.
That's a fun little game.
Anyways, back to the shadows.
And, Bruce, to answer your question about the D-line,
I think this pass rush is going to be back to 100%.
I think Leonard Williams will play.
I think Aziz Ojalary will play.
I think Dexter Lawrence and Kayvon Thibodeau benefited from having the week off against the Eagles.
And I think that is the way they're going to have to win this game defensively.
And I think that pass rush will really get after that banged up Minnesota offensive line
and force Kirk Cousins into mistakes that he didn't make last time.
The Giants didn't take advantage of those mistakes on Christmas Eve.
But yes, I do expect a big game for the defensive line.
Giants lose to the Vikings on a Christmas Eve miracle 61-yard field goal
in the middle of the whiteout in Minnesota,
the last time these two teams have met.
We have a couple more questions for you, but we have to address some.
Who's in a cubicle back over your left shoulder back there?
Looks super cool, had some headphones on.
Do you all just get your own cubicles?
Is that how this works?
Yes, we have our own cubicles.
Most of the beat went out to practice right now.
So I'm foregoing practice to be able to be with you guys.
Oh, get out of your jail cell.
We're so sorry.
Go out there and see practice.
We can't thank you.
No, no, no.
We're good.
We're good.
I'm good.
Whatever you got, let's go.
How do you think the team's going to do?
You know, I think Daniel Jones is playing at a high level since they played on Christmas Eve.
Saquon Barkley was a little banged up that game.
They didn't use him a lot.
So I think it's going to be another close game.
Both of these teams have played close games
all year, but I do think the Giants have fared well in rematches this year. Especially you look
at Washington in a matter of three weeks, they went from that tie and then they won the Sunday
night game to really take advantage and move into playoff contention. I think the same happens here.
I think they make the most of the rematch in Minnesota. A big game for Saquon down the stretch,
and I think the Giants end up beating Minnesota this weekend
and moving on for a rematch, presumably with the Eagles,
as long as the 49ers keep winning.
Okay, so Art is saying, at one point in this year,
I thought the team that I cover was going to win six games.
They look like trash.
Okay, we're talking about competing for top ten pick, this particular team.
Hey, welcome to the team, Dayball.
The F-250 blue thing is sweet.
We're going to suck at least for a year.
We'll be back.
Now he's come full circle.
We're beating the Vikings first round of playoffs.
That's right.
Super wild card weekend.
This is a repeat.
This is an opportunity for the Giants, the G-men,
to kind of stand back in their rightful spot in the NFC.
Good luck with that.
Good luck with the rest of the year.
I'm torn on that one.
Yeah.
I'm very torn on that one.
Close.
Because the Vikings have been a team where I've been like, hey,
this is a brand-new Vikings team.
Big fan.
But then there's been a couple games where the Vikings have just
completely laid a fucking egg.
Giants have as well, though.
So, you know, it's like it's interesting.
The great can be great.
The bad can be terrible.
What will show up?
Who will show up?
We shall see.
And last thing before you go, Zito wanted me to ask you this.
Would you like to take this time to make your pitch to Odell Beckham Jr.
to come join the Giants again?
We'll give you full screen, 10 minutes, whatever you need.
Well, I appreciate the audience that you guys have for Odell.
I'm sure he's watching.
But I'll keep my pitches like Saquon Barkley and Sterling Shepard said.
I'll just text Odell on here.
Oh!
Absolute legend from NewJersey.com, ladies and gentlemen, Art Stapleton.
Thank you, buddy.
Hey, Art!
Ladies and gentlemen, guy who's in an attic in Ohio,
college football national champion, Super Bowl champion,
Ryder Cup champion, Nintendo community, no, not just Nintendo, I guess,
video game community shitster, NBA pundit. COVID survivor.
Father of 10, AJ Hawk.
AJ,
our parlay's looking good this weekend
for the SGP holiday, pal.
Have we officially announced what it is yet?
No, have we officially figured it out?
Have you guys figured it out in that group test? No, not even close.
Man, we're getting there, though.
We are getting there. We're doing the groundwork.
We are workshopping. We don't want to be the one that doesn't hit when everybody else's hits.
Don't be the weak link in the chain, AJ.
Because you're only as strong as the slowest wolf.
That's right.
You know what I mean?
That is what they say.
Everyone hit last year, right?
And what's good for the gander is good for the goose.
You know what I mean?
The whole thing.
What does that mean?
What's that, pal?
What does that mean? What's good for the gander is good for the goose, exactly. Well, they say what's good for the goose is good for the goose. You know what I mean? The whole thing. What does that mean? What's that, pal? What does that mean?
What's good for the gander
is good for the goose, exactly.
Well, they say what's good for the goose
is good for the gander.
And I believe that's male-female gooses.
Yes.
So they're working as a couple.
Happy wife, happy life.
Exactly.
Boom.
What's good for a goose
is good for a gander.
Yeah.
Nonetheless,
we can't be the ones
that fucking get it wrong
and everybody else gets it right.
I appreciate you putting your brain into ours because there's a chance we hit four SGPs
in the same game parlay holiday.
We haven't hit four all year.
Nope.
Could you imagine?
We will, though.
This is the first time that we've done it where the whole crew, everybody's doing one,
right?
Yeah, where we're strategic.
Darius, you're on our team.
Darius, you're on our team.
No, no.
We want Darius. No, no. No, we need him. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No,. Darius, you're on our team. No, no. We want Darius.
No, no.
No, we need him.
Darius, you're on our team.
That's not fair.
Darius is awesome.
Great to have you, Darius.
No, keep me on every team.
What the hell?
Glad to be here.
Sometimes house rules.
All the time.
Sorry about it.
What bullshit, Dad?
Sorry about it.
I'm still a Pontiac.
I'll be better than you.
Oh, you're on our team.
No, no, no, no.
Yeah.
No, no, no, no. Yeah. It just sounds like. Anyways. You're a Pontiac, brother'll be better than him. Oh, you're on our team. No, no, no, no. Yeah. Oh, no, no, no.
Yeah.
It just sounds like.
Anyways.
You're a Pontiac, brother.
Anyways.
Can't wait.
Can somebody add him to the group text, please?
Because we cannot be the ones.
Adam to ours, too.
No, you're not in.
No.
He's not on your team.
That's not fair.
Which game we got?
We got two of his teams that he's rooting for.
We are attacking that Niner Seahawks game.
Okay.
Kicking it off. We won on that one. That was the. game. Okay. Kicking it off. Remember, we won
on that one. That was the
San Diego Parlay that we hit on.
So, like, strategy was
we've already seen this. We've already
done this. We'd like to contribute
to the San Diego
Parlay
holiday.
Because the goal here is to hit
all four. All four hit.
Massive bonus for everybody in office.
And also we'll give away a shit ton of money,
mostly because that would be awesome,
and that's kind of how this whole thing works.
So we split up.
We focus in on one particular game.
PottyX, you take your game.
Chargers-Jags.
Thanks, brother.
Another good game.
Hammered Down hasn't even thought about it yet, but we just assume they'll get it right because guess what?
It's the holiday season and they're gamblers.
Yeah.
Hockey talk?
Come on.
Huh?
Come on.
We were close last year.
We were real close.
We were seven yards away from Deontay Johnson.
That's what I'm saying.
But you guys are going to hit this year.
Yeah.
What game are you guys on?
Do you know?
No.
No idea.
They haven't even talked.
I know they haven't talked.
Okay.
Why?
What's all you been doing?
We talk hockey.
No, you guys took the baton, and you guys picked your games.
We'll figure it out.
We have the Saturday game.
We have Saturday.
Well said.
You guys were super passionate about what games you wanted.
No.
Connor was super passionate.
Hey, you ask a question and I answer.
You really love that Chargers-Jags game.
Love that game.
How come?
Why?
Because it feels as though both defenses aren't the greatest defenses.
So when we're talking props and in and overs, that's the one that I like to bet on.
Mike Williams has a contusion in the back, a back contusion, I believe.
So that's a bruise. That's what a contusion in the back, a back contusion, I believe. So that's a bruise.
That's what a contusion is.
And our sources are telling us that, you know,
it is a painful injury for old Mike Williams.
There's a chance, I guess, that he plays is what is being reported.
But a lot of people are saying, we don't know.
We don't know.
That's a massive shot to that Chargers offense.
And when you need one, one you got a guy that's
bigger stronger and can go get it down the field and Herbert and he have been magical they make
the playoffs there without one of their biggest weapons possibly that's a damn shame for this
Chargers offense they can figure it out though all Eckler does is score touchdowns right that's
all they think it matters yeah they can figure it out I mean we we talk about it a lot I feel like
anytime your back is messed up it affects every single aspect of your life so that's a tough one to kind of kind
of play through i guess their only hope is hey let's go get a win in this first week and hopefully
he's healthy for our second round game that's what they're hoping backs can also you know like it does
affect everything but you can wake up right and depending upon the severe severity of it we've
all experienced it and if you're young
and watching probably on tiktok aj we're live on tiktok you want to say anything sweet hey hey guys
hey talkers suck kids good to see you guys i don't know what do you just you just run the whole show
live on there yeah i don't know how honestly i'm gonna be honest tiktok that's what all the kids
every kid sees everything like that's tiktok dude they go every game day the kids every game day i'm talking young kids i'm talking 10 11 12
year old kids see clips of this show and tell me my daughter's friends oh yeah so that's mitt
foxy casey um and tubes bill bill puts my youtube as well bill mccomis's other yeah
you know we i knew we had to be on the TikTok.
Yeah.
You know, stayed away from it for a while because of what the early reads were on it.
Yeah, it is cool.
You're going to have a lot of deep fakes.
Selling your deep fakes to China.
Yeah.
Oh, that's gone, though.
You don't have to worry about any of that anymore.
Yeah, it doesn't happen everywhere else.
There isn't enough shots.
There isn't enough shots of me anywhere to just, if they wanted to just create a whole body of me, they could.
You know?
Yeah.
That'd be a lot of time and investment and cash into a dumbass who wears a tank top every day.
But I guess that fear was kind of a weird one to me.
They can make a deep fake out of you if you're on there.
It's like.
I think you have plenty of hours out there of footage that people could make a deep fake out of.
Not just me.
I think everybody.
Yeah. I mean everybody. Yeah.
I mean, they don't need a whole lot, I don't think.
Right?
Like, everybody has a photo on the internet at this point.
Yeah, true.
For sure.
That game, that field goal game had you pretty good, so.
Yeah, they just, remember, they did that thing.
Didn't take long either.
Yeah, 360.
Put the little balls on you.
What was that?
90 seconds.
Quick.
Literally 90 seconds.
They took this.
I had to sit still, they did uh the full thing
did they come to you yeah oh they're able to do it they're like you didn't have to go into a studio
or anything they had these lights bright lights i think they had me lit up and i sat if i do recall
it was in the old office dungy old office yeah they had to bring the lights in and i just sat
there and then they put some on my head and then they just kind of did they put the green dots on
you no they didn't have to and then avatar they plugged it in the computer could you imagine i think they could that's how they film
yeah that's how they film avatar wearing all that stuff they showed the photo of me in 3d though like
40 seconds later on the computer and they're like now we'll just take this and we'll transfer it
over i'm like wow technology is insane so i think they could get anything i didn't want to dance
though either although i can dance i'm a pretty good dancer. Solid dancer.
Not in good enough shape these days to do any of the cool shit I used to do.
But that's kind of what TikTok was.
Like, dance, I'm like, I'm not at a stage in my life where I'm just going to be dancing in one shot.
You know, like, but I enjoy that people are doing it.
If this was younger in my life, you would have caught me fucking in there.
I thought you were going to dance with the weatherman.
See, that's what I'm talking about. I appreciate everybody
that did do the dancing. There was a weatherman
in Charlotte that now he's in fucking New York because he's
dancing on TikTok. This guy. Big time.
Nick loved him. Literally. Coming after
DiNardo? Couldn't hate him more.
You don't think DiNardo would have been getting on TikTok and
dancing? No, Joe respected the weather business.
He's going to read the weather. But I would
have hoped that somebody around Joe. Rest in peace, Joe. Rest in peace, Joe respected the weather business. He's going to read the weather. But I would have hoped that somebody around Joe...
Rest in peace, Joe.
Rest in peace, Joe.
Look how good he looks on the left.
We did need you in LA, Joe. Maybe they wouldn't have put
a canopy in a place that was going to have a
fucking torrential downpour on
National Championship night and people inside
in a city get rained on.
Joe DiNardo would have told us,
pack a poncho. That's right. That's what DiNardo would have told us, pack a poncho. That's right.
That's what DiNardo would have done.
DiNardo was reading Doppler's though.
He wasn't necessarily dancing, okay?
Old buddy who was dancing did serve a great purpose.
He kept me entertained.
Yeah.
But I think somebody around DiNardo would have told him,
hey, we should put your readings of the Doppler
onto the TikTok.
You don't know what that is,
but these people need to know about this as well
because this is your gift.
You need to present it to the world. And feel like tiktok is a relatively positive place
so once we found out you know that we had to keep building it alive on there like we need to do it
everybody that went to game day that saw our like came up to me hey i see your clips on tiktok all
the time it was really cool i'm like oh yeah we're on the tiktok i don't know anything this is the
only platform that i really don't know fucking shit about fuck about,
but I'm a massive fan of what's going on.
It seems to be very positive.
Foxy's kicking ass over there with our clips.
I appreciate you and Casey really doing it.
Casey crushes it.
He's a perfect TikTok editor.
He gets them all up there.
And then, yeah, like you said, the comments are literally all positive,
except when AJ says something toxic.
Yeah, they don't love the negativity that spews from you.
I'm going to have to change everything i do for ticked off yeah amen all right all right now all right change man
all right good aj what are your thoughts on just like the state of society you know honestly that's
something you shouldn't come to me because i'm not going to sit here and give you doom and gloom
in real life either like i know for shoot we're doing well this i don't want to work myself into a shoot brother mark but yes like i don't i don't feel
anything i feel very positive about society really me too hell yeah that's what we're doing out here
hey why don't you do a little bit of uh you know like do a dab do a dab what though it is gonna
help generations of people become better dancers because they're dancing at a super young age, I think.
So they'll be better dancers when they're 30, 40 years old.
And also at these moments where you have to dance, there's weddings that pop up.
There's other events where dancing takes place.
I feel like there will be a lot of people who have a lot more confidence to go out and have a good time as opposed to maybe being a wall flyer.
Staying in the wall.
That's a good point, man.
I didn't think about that.
That's a great point.
I think there's going to be a lot more people confident that, hey, you do like these four
dance moves that everybody knows, you're going to be in a good spot.
Because what did everybody used to go out to the dance floor for?
Do the live.
Like a slide.
Take it back now.
Just because they know exactly what to do.
With TikTok, it's like, hey, here's the dance.
Here's the dance.
Here's the dance.
Here's the dance.
TikTok might be making weddings much more lit in the future, so we appreciate that.
Way to go, TikTok.
Way to go, TikTok.
I think it's used as a search engine.
It's probably the best thing.
That's for everybody.
Nobody-
On TikTok?
Yeah, they don't Google shit.
They just look it up on TikTok.
I mean, literally, how to take real estate photos, how to do this, how to do that, anything.
Where to go on vacation.
That's a big one.
You can do that on TikTok?
I thought you couldn't search anything.
They just show you stuff.
No, it's super insightful, actually.
Because remember, I tried to get on there.
I followed Mitt.
Yeah.
And every time I opened my thing, it was just, duh!
Right on the home screen.
Swag check.
I want to see.
I need to see.
Is Mitt still keeping active on there?
He's a part of our uh he's
part of our tiktok crew he fucking he's the man i mean mitt is mitt will do whatever whatever
however and he was focused on tiktok i think his skating injury kind of set him back a lot of
you know across the board really yeah kind of set him back across everything but he'll get back out
there he was the only person i was following though and they have like a for you or this
other thing someone over the other thing the shit that was popping up on my phone and i'm like i'm not doing this no way yeah i'm like how
do i find people and i was they were talking to me like i was a four-year-old you gotta start
watching and following and then the algorithm will read what you want to do it's like i don't have
time i'm so sorry tiktok i i do not have time i i don't have it but i do love that we're on there
and the fact that we're able to go live is really sweet i have no idea how it it works, what it works, what it is, how many other people are doing it.
I believe this is a beta testing stage.
So the back end of it is nowhere near as sophisticated as the YouTube part of it.
But it seems like a good time to do it.
And maybe we'll do some dancing.
This guy said we get to one million. That's a good one. I'm sure you already have a million.
That's a good one.
I'm sure you already have a million. People get a million
followers on TikTok overnight, I feel like.
I don't know what you do.
Thanks for TikTok shaming us.
That's one of the things that...
We don't follow or shame.
That's not what TikTok is all about.
TikTok's supposed to be a positive place. That's one of those things
in the comments.
I'm not going to like it.
Trying to change the world. What are you?
People are going to have a million
live views right now.
What's our TikTok's name?
We have no idea.
Oh yeah, because
obviously... Oh, we're live on it right now.
Tony, you're on the talk.
Tony, you're on talk.
Whole conversation we've been having.
Now you can just Google search it.
Hey, shout out to YouTube, TikTok.
Which apparently is now...
Apparently Google's now Ask Jeeves or Yahoo, so...
What?
What?
Those are other search engines that are now dead.
Now apparently Google's dead because TikTok's a search engine.
Google's dying.
Not mine.
See, I search on Twitter.
I will go to Twitter first before I will go to anywhere else.
I'll go Safari.
But if it's like spelling a word, definition of, like Google has.
DuckDuckGo.
What's that?
DuckDuckGo.
Just another search engine that claims they have better privacy.
Better privacy.
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claim they don't like sell your info or share your info i guess so if they're saying that they were a
part of doing it in the past or they just know other people are doing or they start did they
start once they saw it all this stuff happening they thought hey we can market ourselves as
somebody that i don't know takes care of your identity better i don't know so they control
that not the phone or the they they would control
that is that like how there's cookies i just assume and this is probably very naive of me
and this is going to come out maybe 20 years from now if we you know the world continues to go away
it is i just assume everything we do on our phone is being tracked it's more it is every single
thing you do is being tracked every text
everybody can find out about anytime every photo anybody can find out you should assume you should
definitely assume that always yeah what if you use the private browser that's what i'm saying
that's almost like that sound like when i see that on there i'm like this feels like more of
a setup than anything ever they're like like, hey, whatever your worst shit is, come over here. Like, that just seems like a set.
This is like, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Oh, boy.
Absolutely.
The only thing that's really good for us.
Oh, no, we didn't all think like that, I think.
Oh, we liked TCU the other night.
I forgot about that.
I know how you say that.
Yeah, that just, I'm pretty like, I just assume everybody's, you know.
Smart.
Try it.
You can do an experiment, Pat.
Go murder somebody and then see if they come get your phone
and track all your whereabouts and everything you've been doing.
Well, we already have that happening with the Idaho case
where the guy turned off his phone for two hours
when he was potentially in the area.
So, I mean, I think that's what you watch Dateline
or just live on a phone at all.
Everything I do is being tracked by everything.
Bill said to her on the phone, I was like, murder 101.
So I think we're a few steps past that.
Bill, massive part of this TikTok live thing,
obviously just took a shot across the top.
All right, let's do some NFL stuff.
Normal.
No, it's not.
We're getting into off-season.
Honestly, this is the time
where we will pontificate on so many things we should not
because we don't have enough information on.
But we're on a platform we know nothing about.
We've heard a lot of stuff.
If half of it's true, we're probably fucked forever.
But if not, all good.
Seems like a positive place.
Excited about it all.
Also said something in the first hour that I need to correct.
That never happens on this show.
Said that the 4 o'clock games are being auctioned off.
They are being auctioned off, not for financial value, though.
Networks will be allowed to pick the teams that they want
or the games that they want to have on their channel.
Because in the past, Fox would always have NFC.
And there's a chance that Fox, because they're about to get Tom Brady,
would want some AFC games because, obviously,
he lived in New England in AFC East for fucking 20 years or whatever.
So we think that that's why the rule was made.
But networks are allowed to pick which games they have at the 4 o'clock hour going forward.
As opposed to NFC on Fox, AFC on CBS.
Which is good news for fans, I think.
I think the better games will get better calls.
So that if you're watching a game that is important but it isn't as important as maybe another one you're not going to have to deal with somebody who's never
called a game before calling the game in the whole aspect of i i think this is good for it
but it's not like every game's being auctioned off which i did think was the case and i might
have implied aj i i thought i saw that actually i thought i was wondering okay if that is the case
i mean great idea more money coming in for it but also how does it work with the fact that they already paid however many billions for the package?
Then this is just money on top of that?
No, yeah.
So I think the package, they bought into the package already.
So now you're at the buffet.
Now they have a little more leeway on who they can, the games they can, the teams they can do, I guess.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Going to have to get in there quick.
You want to go get a little bit of pepperoni pizza at CC's because somebody else is going to house it first before the buffalo chicken one
because the buffalo chicken one doesn't last as long as your bladder.
Normally, you're going to poop that one out three, four minutes upon exit at CC's.
Pepperoni one will last six, seven minutes.
So you've got to get in there quick, I think, is what they're telling the networks.
Like you pick a game, it's going to be a first-come, first-served type operation
or somebody gets preferential treatment each week and that kind of rotates.
It is a good idea.
Let's assume money will be added to the mix for this, maybe
in the next TV deal, and that seems
to be what the NFL is, which is just a cash cow.
It would have to, too, because you assume that
after this auction process
there's going to be at least one network who
isn't happy with, you know,
they're going to be like, well, fucking look, NBC
has got a much better
haul than we do. We're paying X amount. This is bullshit. We need to refigure this. And then the
NFL goes, have you looked up the value of your company? Hey Fox, you're like 8 billion or 9
billion or something. That is so awesome. We are so proud of you. Google's a hundred and some
trillion. Okay. So I understand you are rich. We agree. And your
network, if you go back and watch the Madden documentary, we pretty much helped found
together, you know, getting the NFL rights, bringing in Madden is what kind of launched Fox.
I think if, if that, if I was reading that documentary, right. So there's so much money
out there now. I think people saying that's not fair, that's not fair. I think the NFL will certainly handle business with them
and take in their requests.
But at the end of the day, people have so much fucking money now, AJ,
and the NFL is going to be okay taking all of it, I think.
How are they going to figure out the sports gambling thing?
It's going to be tough.
Yeah, because they have to distance themselves from it.
In the states, because obviously more states that have NFL teams
don't have gambling versus the one in the states.
So the books are just going to have to pay the NFL
to allow their games to be bet on the books?
Is that legal?
Or in the stadiums?
Some stadiums have sports books in them.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Colts Stadium has six of them.
It has six different ads, or four different ads.
Do any of them have money?
Can you go in and gamble right there?
No.
You're talking about Arizona?
Yeah, like actual, that's Arizona, right?
Arizona has FanDuel, I think, right, in the arena.
That's one, yeah, right by the footprint.
That's where I went to.
But in the Cardinal Stadium, do they have a sportsbook in there or no?
Philly has one, right?
Doesn't Philly, no.
Like a full sportsbook in there?
No.
I mean, I know they were talking about bringing like kiosks to like different games.
Like the Indy 500.
Like the Kentucky Derby.
Right.
So I thought that was the next step of the gambling.
Kentucky Derby style for football.
You go out maybe after a quarter or somebody comes to you or it's an iPad that you can place a bet in somehow where you can either bet plays, drives, quarters, everything like that,
like the Kentucky Derby has.
But they're going to have to keep that really –
they suspended Calvin Ridley an entire season,
which is one of the harsher penalties that the NFL has ever given out.
If you just do the research on the penalties
and what's been penalized how much in the past,
you can certainly find some flaws in the moral department in the whole thing.
But Roger Goodell and the NFL were sending a message.
They were saying, hey, our players, our coaches, anybody that's associated with the actual game itself
cannot be fucking touched by the sports gambling thing because it ruins our thing and it ruins their
thing the nfl knows that right you agree with that correct i think the nfl knows that because
that ruins the nfl immediately if everybody thinks games are cooked just like the nba anytime
anything happens because tim donahue what is that 15 years ago and it's a sport in which you could
easily call it the nba people will never get over that's right that's a rigged game i'm an nba fan i do not
believe that i don't think it's possible to rig things in public like that especially with
professional athletes who are competitive and ego driven and resume driven and legacy driven i don't
know how you would do that but maybe they're able to control how many points i i will allow my brain
to think that but there's people that think it's rigged if that was to start happening if one thing
happens in the nfl with how big the n, fans forever, this game's fucking rigged.
They're already saying it.
A lot of people, yeah.
They're already saying it right now with some of the calls that are happening.
As somebody that played, and I guess I didn't have that pivotal of a role.
I mean, I could have affected points every time a ball was kicked, I guess.
I don't know how you would be able to get everybody to buy in on a rigged game.
Now, it has happened in the past with certain positions, and I get that.
But the NFL does not want that to be the case in their league at all.
With the trajectory that they're on going straight up like this,
they don't want anybody questioning anything.
That's why the full-time referees is a necessity coming up.
The NFL is pushing off, pushing off.
It is a necessity now because the integrity of the game
and the public perception of the integrity of the game need to remain high.
You can't have refs in law firms or a library, whatever the fuck.
I don't even know what the hell they are.
I don't even know what all the jobs are.
Librarian?
Is he a librarian?
Could be.
How are they not?
I don't know.
That's nuts.
Doing another job and then fucking showing up at the games.
It's like you don't think that person has other networks and circles
and not that everybody shouldn't be all in on their job
and everything like that.
But why are you even exposing him to a potential opportunity to be like,
yeah, I don't make it.
This isn't.
Like with how much money.
I just think that's going to happen this offseason or coming up soon,
which is smart.
But the gamblers don't want that to happen either.
We don't want to be betting on a fucking game that's rigged
if you don't know which way it's going.
So it's like both sides didn't want any players or coaches
to get involved in gambling at all,
which is why I think the Calvin Ridley punishment was what it was.
You can talk about fairness and compare it to other things.
I think that's why it was.
How will the NFL continue to keep it that way, you think?
How will they be able to?
Just by bringing the hammer down on anything that they find.
Like, who was it?
There's an assistant coach.
But they're going to be taking checks from it.
It's going to be.
You think they care?
No.
You think they care about that, man?
No.
But who's the assistant coach that I believe got suspended, caught gambling on something?
Miles Austin?
Yeah.
What was his deal?
I'm not sure exactly, but I'm assuming betting on the games.
And, I mean, even when we were playing,
that was the one thing that we were probably scared most shitless about
is getting caught gambling on a game.
And I know for me, I didn't know anything about the books
or gambling or anything at that point.
But they came in.
I was more scared of getting caught using Roy's or some shit.
So, you know, they got to protect the integrity of the show.
You know, if it affects or potentially impacts that bottom dollar, that's when they're going to bring the hammer down the most.
There's a lot of signs everywhere.
Don't be the Pete Rose like it is.
And with it becoming legalized, I think they probably have stressed that even more.
Like, hey, don't even.
But they're going to be collecting a check from them at the same
time they already are so it's a tough thing i think to sell to the people and to players but
that is vital for the future of both industries i think it just happened to bernie kozar last week
and he's just calling the rate games on the radio oh yeah he placed the first bet in ohio or something
like that he's a radio voice for the Cleveland Bronze. So he has an NFL job,
is how they worded it, and said, nah, you
can't do it. Miles Austin, I don't
even think was on NFL games.
It was not on NFL or college football.
And they had it monitored because they were
able to see it because all the... He was doing it from the...
From the book?
No, from the building.
On the Wi-Fi?
Come on, Nick.
Hold on, we learned Just put your phone probably.
Hold on.
We learned this with Calvin Ridley, though,
that the NFL has a company that is monitoring all the sportsbooks, remember?
Oh, yeah.
And if any names pop up, they are to be alerted, red flag,
to this company that then sends it to Goodell in the office,
and then they have it all monitored exactly what's bet, what isn't bet.
So like the 11-game parlay that he pieced together,
like that was a factual thing because they have it all monitored.
I think that's smart. I think they're doing all these things,
but how do you get it to a point where they're going to be in the stadiums,
it's going to be there, and also keep it separated?
That's going to be a tough balance.
To the point now too, where some of these –
Publicly, I'm not talking about actual players.
I don't think players or coaches are going to be as like,
yeah, I'll fucking – I'll take a dollar over something.
No, that's not happening.
That's not –
They don't even – it's the referees.
That's who you get.
That's the only people you can get to.
Players even making league minimum make too much, I think,
to be bought off on easily, I guess.
Obviously, it's happened. It can happen happen but it's very rare i think yeah most players can't afford a year-long
suspension that that'll mean your career is done for a lot of people and then the players that can
are making you know too much money to put it at risk and what's all the movies the movies are just
like an amount that you need you're behind you need it in a whole but it is a slippery slope because it's getting to the point now, too,
where there are active players who have a podcast
who will read ads for a sports book.
And it's like if they're okay with that.
Well, fantasy was okay for a long time, remember?
Fantasy is pretty much what that was the early stages of gambling, right?
Yes.
Picking players, money money opt-in daily fantasy was
like you're basically doing
live parlays
yeah that's legal in most states
it's yeah but the NFL also promotes
it yeah players are promoting
right daily fantasy and everything like that and
I don't think that's bad I don't and I don't think
my my biggest thing is the public
worrying about it being you
know at what there's a big chunk there's a big chunk of the public I about it being, you know, at what stage.
Because there's a big chunk of the public, I think,
that believes every player is on juice and all of them are on the take
and every game is rigged.
I think there's a faction of people that truly believe that.
And I guess that's how they'll always be, right?
Yeah.
Those people just have no faith in anything.
Imagine if you look at the players.
If you see a player in person, you're like, there's no way that,
like you see any D lineman, anyone.
That guy's got to be on everything, right?
Well, and I think if we zoom out as well,
those people probably just assume that nothing good can just happen.
That's right.
If you're that cynical, you can find two or three things in every single NFL game
if you really wanted to be like, oh, this shit's fucking rigged.
Are you kidding me?
This guy never fumbles.
I mean, what's going on?
Lane Johnson can't stay off the juice.
Some people
thrive on that. That is a tackle in the NFL
though, by the way.
Maybe
he's right there in that group that
were taking on the aliens
to show up. Need him shirtless
off the bus. Maybe right in the trenches
kind of making sure they stay
back. Protect protecting Tom Cruise.
Do you think they show up and we show up?
Do we show up in buses, you think, in that
particular battle? I don't know. Where are we
meeting? Convoys? Antarctica.
Are they coming to us? If we're meeting
on Antarctica, then we can just send
all the clients that are already up there to fight the
aliens. I don't think we have the ability to go to them.
They have the ability to go to them.
Honestly, we probably want to go warm climbing.
If they're that much smarter than us, we can assume that we can beat them up.
Yeah.
Right?
What if they can live in the water, though?
They don't have enough time to focus on everything.
No.
But if they're smarter, they might know our pressure points.
Sure.
Oh, this is like mixed martial alien arts.
Bingo.
Like fucking Seagal.
M-M-A-A. Seagal's been training them. Boom. How? Yeah. You're out. Oh, this is like mixed martial alien arts. Bingo. Like fucking Seagal. M-M-A-A.
Seagal's been training them.
Boom.
How?
Yeah.
You're out.
Oh, my God.
I'm tapping three times.
Yeah, can't move.
Tentacle in your ear.
M-M-A-A is a problem.
I didn't even think about that.
Yeah.
That's the smart fighters.
If they're looking for a new planet, we might not want to go cold because their planet might
be cold and uncomfortable.
We might want to go to hot climates and they might be out of shape in that type of environment.
Yeah, but they're inside the planets, right?
So it's probably pretty hot in there.
Are we sure?
Or at least temperature controlled.
Oh, you think they just got a big AC?
Yeah, maybe just 65 everywhere.
Like that ski resort that's going in the Middle East?
That's right.
Boom.
I've never seen an alien on the sun.
Me either.
That's right.
Good call.
Are they inside the system? All right, so we're doing this in the sun. Me either. That's right. Good call. Are they inside the sun?
All right, so we're doing this in the equator.
We're doing this in the Caribbean.
What's that?
Florida.
No, we've got to go to the equator.
Equator.
Yeah, tie.
Meet us at the equator.
We've got to go to Ecuador, right?
See you there.
I don't know.
Floridians might be a bunch of people that you do want around if you're in some shit.
Hell, yeah.
Rain bath salts on them and have them just tear those aliens apart.
Yeah, that's like, that's northern central Florida there, right?
The bath salt community?
I mean, anywhere, honestly.
I mean, it is kind of a different state once you go past probably Palm Beach.
It's kind of a different state, a little more of a melting pot down in South Florida.
But, I mean, I like our chance.
Any Florida man meets alien.
I like how that turns out.
Yeah, because Florida man is, I mean, noted dog.
Yeah.
You know, just willing to do the things he wants.
Let's give him drugs.
Let's get him addicted to drugs.
Who?
The aliens?
The aliens.
Yeah, and then they'll eventually just kill themselves.
I think we should at least give him weed first.
And I know everybody says it's a gateway drug, but I think it will chill them out.
And it's also like the peace pipe is something for real.
Yeah.
I think maybe that's the first thing we show up.
We bring them Laramie Tunzel's gas mask.
Okay.
And we tell them, strap up.
Welcome to our planet.
Bring Wiz and Willie Nelson.
Maybe have them play a couple songs of the different genres together.
This is what we have here.
Yeah. And then take it off, and then maybe we have a little bit of a negotiation on how this
whole thing.
Do you think aliens have skunk weed?
No, they got the fucking loud pack.
For real.
Yeah, they're smoking real loud.
Jay Glazer's the negotiator, for sure.
Jay Glazer's negotiating?
He's got to be.
No, Molageta.
No.
Yes.
It's Molageta.
If Glazer's negotiating, he might go fucking spinning backfist on someone,
and he won't like that.
We can't trust Glaze to not just say, fuck it, and just, you know.
Spinning backfist.
Yeah, exactly.
Not want to put him out.
He can't do it.
That's his move.
He had some good.
He did.
He did.
He's got lightning in his hands.
Bro, his feet, if you watch, and obviously I had to dance with fire.
That's right.
I had to dance with a lightning bolt.
That is Jay Glazer at the Radio Row.
We were doing a little shoulder roll thing.
I don't know.
I guess that is a warm-up practice, and he had the leverage on me.
We were going in there, so I got to feel the strength of Jay,
and he was in there rocked up.
Jay is an animal.
Watching that video of him.
What the fuck?
He's quick, man.
He is.
Yeah, here.
Boom.
He's all right.
Look at his movement.
You can't hit him.
You know where you can hit him.
Bounce, bounce, bounce.
Boom.
That was a good left hook.
Gotcha.
Yeah, O.T.'s a dog.
This guy shouldn't let his guard down.
And then boom, right into the fucking put your arm around the guy's throat.
Leg slam.
Die.
Glaze ain't fucking around.
Like, he might be sparring, but two hits.
Me and the fucking spinning back fit.
And your head bouncing off the mat.
Glaze ain't fucking around.
That was a clean hit.
He thought he was going to catch him there.
He was going to.
He was forcing that.
What if he catches that? What happens?
That guy's dead.
We have to remember, Jay Glazer is in a fight camp
with AQ Shipley.
They fight in the basement
of a very wealthy man in Arizona.
Who's the wealthy man?
I don't know how to say his name, but how does he get involved?
I've heard he's a good guy.
I've heard he's a good guy.
AQ meets some other guy who's in the fighting world, okay,
and they befriend each other.
AQ starts sniffing around in mixed martial arts.
He loves everything.
He's a fan of it.
Hey, you guys want to work out?
Sure do.
Okay, he's kind of mixed with the crew now.
And then they get invited to go, I think, to Rich Man's Basement.
And then all of a sudden, that's all within like a 10-day period.
He meets a person.
He's in Rich Man's basement with the group 10 days later.
As an onlooker from outside, certainly fascinating how this is all panning out.
Then he tells us Jay Glazer just showed up at the fight camp.
And I'm like, oh, my God.
What?
What basement are they in?
Great question.
Maybe we find out at the Super Bowl.
Maybe.
You ever seen Foxcatcher?
Oh, yeah.
He is kind of like Steve Carell.
John DuPont.
That's in Ohio, right?
West Virginia, I think.
No, that's not in Ohio.
But John DuPont, I mean, it's a true story, yeah.
That's the wrestling, right?
The whole wrestling?
Yeah.
Murder.
Yeah.
He had a team.
He brought a team in, had all those guys.
He paid them money because wrestling, to try to go to the Olympics, they don't really get paid.
So he pays for their camp.
Unfortunately, yeah, he took one of them.
I thought it was PA.
It's PA.
Yeah, it's PA.
Is it PA?
Yeah.
We must remember in a time like this that Pennsylvania did create the game
U-P-R-A.
So.
Yeah.
For all the bad things.
It's just not true.
I didn't know he created a foxcatcher.
I don't think that's a bad story.
Guy just wanted to win. He was snorting coke. It was just didn't know he created a foxcatcher. I don't think that's a bad story. Guy just wanted to win.
He was snorting coke.
It was just that one year he killed a guy.
The documentary wasn't a put-over doc.
That was a don't want to be associated.
It was just outside of Philly, though.
It was the years before, though.
He did very well.
He killed a guy one year.
Let's think about all the work.
Yeah, the guy just wanted to win.
All right, we will move on. This is not an accurate depiction of how these guys peers or killed a guy.
In one bad year.
Might cancel out all those other gold medals.
I think so.
How many gold medals did he win for the country?
The guy he killed?
John DuPont, Schultz?
No, the guy he trained.
Aside from the guy he killed.
Well, he killed him. The guy that was his head trainer, he killed him. I wasz? No, the guy he trained. Aside from the guy he killed. Well, he killed him.
The guy that was his head trainer, he killed him.
I was going to say killed the guy's brother.
So I'm guessing that guy held a little bit of a grudge.
Yeah, but before that.
Yeah, there was good times, you're saying.
Yeah.
Yeah, well, it all turned like the worst it could turn.
So, not good.
So there are no good times until they all moved in.
All right, let's move on.
There's no like this meant X gold medals equals one killing guy.
There's nothing.
Yeah.
Well, he won bronze, so.
He's not American either, so.
Yeah.
How about that guy?
Huh?
Who?
Tink Tink.
Tink Tink?
Is he still in jail?
Has to be.
Slicing people up.
He got out for like three weeks, right?
And then a new judge came in and go, what are we?
Yeah.
No, no, no.
Those things aren't.
Those legs aren't metal anymore either.
They're wood.
Oh, peg leg.
Let's move on.
Yeah, you can't have that.
Can't be plastic.
What is it?
Plastic?
I think it's actually a hard foam.
You think he's on just like.
Like a double pocket back roller?
You know, like that type of.
That guy could really run though.
Whenever he got those things rolling.
I told you guys we covered this the last time we talked about this, okay?
They duct taped his nubs to a skateboard,
and that's how he gets around in that prison.
With an oar?
You mean like Sid from Toy Story?
Pretty much.
Is it two skateboards?
No, one skateboard sideways.
Yeah.
People do that.
He's goofy, and that's what they call it, right, Mitt?
Goofy dubbed or goofy footed?
If you're right, leg is forward, yeah.
Yep.
Yeah.
What's he use, his hands to push himself around?
They gave him an oar with a plunger on the bottom.
You ever seen those guys?
I've seen people like that cruising around the city.
Soaking, grip the concrete floors, they have a plunger.
I know what you're talking about.
I know what you're talking about.
There he is.
What's he got?
Is he gold?
That's not him.
That guy has legs. That's not him. He's playing soccer. Oh, he's got talking about. What's he got? Is he gold? That's not him.
He's playing soccer.
He's got the legs.
Prosthetics? That's not him.
That's not real.
He never put shoes on those legs. This is doctored footage.
They're just letting this guy go out and fucking take PKs
whenever he wants. You kidding me?
There was no reason for us to get to this.
Allegedly.
Who's that guy on the bottom of that photo uh some gangster we're speaking about oscar for anyone that doesn't
know so a guy from the mob got him thanks aj i said no clue said his name earlier but i don't
think people thought i said a name i just said bestorius that is that we knew Is that we did. He's an Olympian who ran track 200 yard or meter?
400.
400, I think.
400.
We all know him because he literally had no legs below the knees.
So he strapped into like these blades.
They were calling him Blade Runner.
Yeah.
Cal Williams affectionately called him Tink Tink because of an unfortunate situation that took place at the beginning of one of these track meets where they were giving Tink Tink to run around.
And all you really heard was him Tink Tinking around everywhere.
This was Pistorius.
He was racing against.
This was not the special.
This was the actual Olympics.
Yep.
Racing against everybody else.
Not the Paralympics.
Yeah.
Paralympics.
There it is.
Which they have hockey. The Paralympics, yeah. Paralympics, there it is. Which, they have hockey.
The Paralympics have hockey.
That's awesome.
It is awesome.
It is.
Pittsburgh has a team.
I think Pittsburgh has a team.
Kid we went to school with is on it.
So I've watched kind of sled hockey for a long time.
It's awesome.
Highly entertaining.
I agree.
I concur.
It is awesome.
Anyways, this dude was beating folks, right?
Yeah.
Dominating.
Became a phenomenon. Fledges Donut folks, right? Yeah. Dominating. Became a phenomenon.
Fledges Donut murdered his girlfriend.
Yes.
Just shot her.
He claimed self-defense, didn't he?
Somebody was pooping in his bathroom or something like that.
No, he was pooping.
He's eligible for parole in 2023 this year.
Don't let him out.
Jeez.
He cannot do that.
Oh, now the guy who Oh, now the guy who says
now the guy
who says one of the gold medals
won a death. If this guy won a
gold, then maybe I'd have a different thought, but he won
bronze, so keep him in there. Alright, let's talk
about the Cardinals. They're trying to trade
DeAndre Hopkins. He has two years,
34.6 and a half
million dollars left on his contract.
The Cardinals currently have no GM because the GM resigned, Steve Keim,
after taking a health absence at like week 13 or 14 or something like that.
Jordan Schultz, a little latte.
This man's dad runs Starbucks.
That's right.
Obviously, I drink a green tea from there every day.
This Jordan Schultz guy could, i think actually could get away with it just sitting on a ten
thousand dollar catch in a penthouse in new york staring at some 95 inch television living a life
of luxury could do that every single day oh yeah he could hide from his dad who has a obviously a
great work ethic uh in different penthouses around the country we only know that because every time
he's facetimed us he's in a different postcard.
That's right.
He was in the middle of the fucking mountains in Tennessee
in a 15,000-square-foot log cabin spread.
He has FaceTimed us from a penthouse in New York
that he just slipped into because it was too loud out of there.
Just happened to be in the neighborhood.
Seattle, obviously, he's plugged in.
He's got a Florida resident. This dude is living in the neighborhood. Seattle, obviously, he's plugged in. He's got a Florida resident.
This dude is living a good life.
He's choosing to be an insider, which is a miserable existence.
You just have to text people all day, every day.
Normally, you have to have two phones.
Any dinner you're eating, that's a dinner on your phone, not with any humans around you.
You're traveling to glad hand everybody.
It's a terrible job to pick if you're a bazillionaire.
Hell yeah. Jordan Schultz has're a bazillionaire. Hell yeah.
Jordan Schultz has done that.
He has.
Hell yeah.
So every time we read a piece of news that's coming from this guy,
we have to remember this dude is a psychopath.
He should not be an insider.
He is.
He is reporting that the Cardinals are trying to move on from DeAndre Hopkins.
No GM, no head coach, moving on from DeHop.
Kyler will have input in who's going to be the coach and with
that saying if he thinks he could get along with the coach will be added into the conversation i
assume is what will be the conversation there with kyler how do you feel about this with the cardinals
the whole situation and if you'd like to tag on anything about little latte choosing a life of
insidering as opposed to a life of luxury well yeah, yeah, first off, Jordan Schultz, Little Latte,
as he so affectionately called himself, right,
when he was shooting free throws in high school,
they would chant that to him.
Yeah.
Well, Zito is the one that really hammered it home.
I don't know.
Did you create Little Latte?
No, that was what they used to chant at him,
like trying to make him miss free throws.
That's not a bad nickname.
No, not at all.
Opposing high school kids.
It's pretty good.
Yeah, not a bad nickname. Yeah, of course. He made those free throws, though. Oh, yeah, yeah. For sure. Fund's not a bad nickname. No, not at all. Opposing high school kids. It's pretty good. Yeah, not a bad nickname.
Yeah, of course.
He made those free throws, though.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
For sure.
Fundamentals, elbow in.
97 career free throw.
Then he thrust his hips at the student section after that.
Boom!
Big latte here!
College hooper, right?
360.
He hooped in college, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he did.
Kentucky.
Big latte.
Yeah, so shout out to him.
Anyways, let's get back to Arizona.
What are your thoughts on Arizona Cardinals?
Shout out to him.
DeHop, I mean, do you think he wants moved?
Is there a chance that he wants out of there?
Yeah.
I would assume, man.
Two years, 34 mil.
That's not too much to take on for him, I feel like.
But he said he's seeking a new deal.
Yeah.
He had a trade clause.
Was Arizona trying to come after some of his money, you think?
Because could they try to come after some money with his suspension?
I would assume guaranteed could be potentially attacked or whatever by the Cardinals if they try to come after some money with his suspension? I would assume guaranteed could be potentially attacked or whatever
by the Cardinals if they wanted to, and maybe the Cardinals will want to do that.
But this is DeAndre Hopkins not knowing what he was signing up for.
Right? That's what this is.
And maybe the Cardinals aren't going to want to pay him,
but with the new wide receiver market,
DeHop certainly deserves whatever the hell he's going to make,
$2.34 or whatever the renegotiated price is.
He's a game changer.
He's a game wrecker.
The Cardinals offense is vastly different when he's on the field when he's not on the field.
It appears if he wasn't getting along maybe with the quarterback as well and just over the situation,
what do you think, DeHop?
I mean, it was a lot of cameras, a lot of coverage.
I'm sure those receiver-quarterback conversations probably happened a lot on the sideline.
You see it happen with Diggs, you know, here and there. and there um but when when hop went to the cardinals i want to say
he was the highest paid receiver at the time and now was that two for 34 uh this guy's making
damn near 30 a year now so it's probably a money thing but if you're a head coach um and even with
all this shit with kyler that has happened he's still the best quarterback available on these
teams that have a head coaching vacancy.
Him having input, I don't know how I feel about that.
Without DeHop, you still like it?
I mean, just talent-wise, obviously he's got to figure out the shit between the ears,
which is huge at a quarterback position especially,
but talent-wise it is so much.
You're talking about if the coach is only picking from the quarterback situation,
Kyler Murray is by far the best situation that is currently available,
more than Russell Wilson?
Yeah, in my opinion, yeah.
D-Hop changed anything?
D-Hop definitely changed that.
Even when you saw he got put in there in the middle of the season,
I think he probably got targeted like 15 times his first game back.
So he's still a dog.
And obviously this offseason and this beginning of the season
was set back with that suspension.
But I still think he's at the top of his game.
Yeah, Connor? Yeah, you wonder too
if them having to re-sign Marquise
Brown has something to do with it because obviously him and
Kyle have played together at Oklahoma. They just
got him. So you wonder maybe
they want to extend him. Not enough money
for both of them. Writing on the wall,
DeHop is saying. Yeah, exactly. He's got to want out of there.
He wants out of there, I would imagine. He would want to win.
You'd see him, right? Yeah.
Maybe the Cardinals do. Hey, Bengals made the playoffs. They have to win five to seven, I would imagine. He would want to win. You'd see him, right? Yeah. Maybe the Cardinals do.
Hey, the Bengals made the playoffs after winning five, seven, whatever it is.
That's right.
Five games.
Made the Super Bowl after winning five games.
So maybe the Cardinals are able to turn around with a brand-new culture.
I mean, Deion Sanders said just yesterday,
how do you want me to flip a culture but you don't want me to change the people?
That's just not – I don't know.
That's not – that's a great – he could change the culture, I guess. We need to to change the people. That's just not, I don't know. That's a great, you see, you can change the culture, I guess.
We need to bring in new people.
Kyler's staying.
Seemingly, this is a build around Kyler.
Yeah, more power.
Contract.
They have to.
Contract has set up that they have to do that.
So whatever your take is on Kyler, whatever your thoughts are on Kyler,
if you're a Cardinals fan or an NFL fan as a whole,
that's what the Cardinals are going for.
This team is being built around Kyler Murray,
and we'll see if he can have success.
Maybe he can because the talent level is there, obviously, A.J.,
to Darius's point.
Yeah, it is.
Who do they bring in?
That's the question.
Who does he mesh with?
What kind of coach meshes well?
And also, when is he going to be 100% healthy?
You think it's going to be a speed dating thing with Kyler Murray?
That's the input he has.
He'll be sitting in his locker, and these coaches will have to come in,
and they'll get an option of a couple stools or seats,
whatever they want to sit on, in front of Kyler.
Obviously, Harbaugh is grabbing someone's seat back,
flipping that, sitting backwards.
Yep, yep.
Hands on that thing.
Sup, Kai?
AC Slater.
Sup, Kai?
Yeah, absolutely, AC Slater.
He's a pretty good wrestler back in the day.
Oh, he beat Needick, remember? Yeah, he, A.C. Slater. He's a pretty good wrestler back in the day.
He beat Needick.
Yeah, he was pretty good.
Hardball showing him, and then Kyler's giving him a score on compatibility levels,
and then he's turning that into Bidwell.
Yeah.
That sounds pretty spot on. Does Kyler talk to him, or do they just talk at him while he's gaming?
What's your problem?
He's a professional gamer gamer what are you talking about
about what
about Kyler having
cause that's a hell of a full circle
going from having to watch
four hours of film mandated to watch film
to a few months later
you got say so in the head coaching search
yeah AQ did a nice hedge
he stayed right there on the fence
he said a couple
things about
like if not cliff then who yeah like cliff was the guy who ran the offense that was best for
the style of player you are cliff gets along with everybody cliff is like a cool guy that was aq's
entire thing so he didn't really dance much off of that point he repeated it like three times
so i don't think he wanted to dive into any other stuff.
But he did keep saying, like, if not Cliff, then who?
And I think he was saying enough then.
I think he thinks it's going to be tough to find somebody that will be able to utilize Kyler's best gifts and attributes
and then also be able to handle a megastar quarterback, which is what Kyler Murray is now.
He hasn't won as much as other people that act in the fashion in which he does,
but he has been paid because he can play at the level in which the people who have won a lot of accolades can play.
So it's a fascinating situation.
We'll watch, what, two years?
We look at what's Kyler Murray's contract.
We'll be able to know exactly how long this is going to go.
What's up, Ty?
You can say all that kind of stuff,
but then if you're just turning around
and fucking trading his best receiver,
like the guy who really was the straw
that stirred the drink this year,
I mean, what are they going to do?
Are they going to ask Lincoln Riley to come coach him
since they were buddy-buddy at Oklahoma?
Just thinking about it.
He was at the game, too.
Could do that.
They also have...
He was on TV.
His brother was coaching.
I think you need you
need a guy who's maybe gonna like kiss his ass and to like get the okay to get hired and then
just be like a massive hard ass because i think that's probably what he needs kyler's dead cap
goes through basically 2026 2027 it goes down to 7.2 million they'll eat that by 2027. The salary cap will be $310 million.
And them having
that high pick, you would assume
with how much success these young receivers
are having, maybe they trade
a little further back in the first round from
three and then they just take a wide receiver for them.
Let's talk about the top of the draft. The odds
have come out. Bryce Young, odds on
favorite to be the number one overall pick.
C.J. Stroud, second best odds to get drafted at number one overall.
This is not them placing them in order.
This is not placing them in order.
This is strictly for the number one overall pick.
We believe two in some other positions aren't going to go quarterback,
so I think this is just for the number one overall pick.
Have to think about that.
Bryce Young at the top.
C.J. Stroud number two.
I mean, Will Levis down there plus 3,000 or whatever.
I think I was lied to about him being up there talked about with Bryce Young by my particular source.
And that's what we have to remember.
Will Levis plus 2,000.
That's what we have to remember from this point forward.
These sportsbooks don't know shit either. Nope. they're reading the same thing that we're reading so you can kind of get a good
tell on what they're hearing and what they think but it's not like private information
we have actually changed the sports book in the picks a few times now yeah and the odds from
information that we have gotten so that means they had had the NBA dead ass wrong a couple hours before the draft.
It was like minus 1,400 or something for a kid out of Auburn to go one.
So with that, they think the pick's being traded
or they got the Bears taking somebody over?
Oh, yeah, that's the conversation this morning.
I don't know if you heard this, A.J. Hawk.
Tannenbaum, who works on ESPN, he's on Get Up.
I don't think he's ever on First Take.
He's on Get Up and probably on Jay, Keyshawn.
He might be on Max.
Zubin.
Max and Max.
Zubin.
Zubin's no longer on the show.
What's that?
Is that this just in?
Is Max's show?
This just in in the afternoon.
I think he's on at the same time.
So, Tainan Baum all over ESPN.
Former general manager for the Miami Dolphins and the Jets, I believe.
He was the Jets GM when I came out.
Like, I remember on my visit, he was there.
You had a meeting with him?
What did you think?
Yeah, the Jets did.
They had, like, a full in-depth deal where you show up.
They kind of, like, install their defense to you,
and then they talk to you for 20 minutes,
and then they make you try to regurgitate it to them.
I like that.
I think that's actually a pretty solid thing because being able to recall
information is a massive piece of being a Mike linebacker.
Why?
And a quarterback.
But Tannenbaum has said some things that made us go.
What doofus?
Shut up, Mike. Yeah, mixed reviews. There's definitely mixed reviews for Tannenbaum. I think things that made us go, what? What a doofus. Shut up, man.
Yeah, mixed reviews.
There's definitely mixed reviews for Tannenbaum.
I think he says some very intelligent things.
I think there are times where he says intelligent things.
Then there's some things he says where it's hard for a lot of people to, like,
listen to anything else he says and not think about that.
You know what I mean?
And that's kind of the job of being in a microphone,
and it's a problem for all of us.
But former GM, I don't think anybody takes him serious.
And that is –
No, you got to take him serious, though.
Because he is a former – so when I look at Tanner Baum and I hear him speak,
I think, you know what, at least half of these guys that are sitting in those chairs
right now are thinking the same way.
We – okay, so you're not there yet.
Wait for a year.
You'll get there.
Yeah, wait for a year or so.
Because it really was the backbreaker in the Tua draft,
and he was really pontificating about what he – you know, he's got a bunch of buddies in the Miami front office.
And they basically did the exact opposite of what he said he thought they were going to do.
So clearly –
He spoke screen.
Yeah, to him, though.
He might have been a part of the work, which if he was, congratulations.
That's awesome.
We got work.
But there's a lot of things he says as a pundit that you think about,
and it's like might have made sense like 10 years.
Whatever.
Nonetheless, I like Tannenbaum.
This morning he started a conversation that I did not even know was existing.
I guess it was happening probably somewhere.
He's like, if you're the Bears, trade Justin Fields.
Trade Justin Fields. Get him the hell out of it. This is what I Bears, trade Justin Fields. Trade Justin Fields.
Get him the hell out of it.
This is what I would do, he said.
Trade Justin Fields.
Give me a first and a third back.
I get Bryce Young, obviously, as my quarterback.
I can get more starters on the team, and he's cheaper because he's a new quarterback.
It's like Justin Fields is still in his rookie contract.
Justin Fields is the only thing that was good for the Bears this year, right?
He almost broke a fucking record against that.
Are you just going to move on from that? If you're the Chicago Bears and Darius Butler is putting it on the ticker on this show, he goes, Justin Fields is
going to be the greatest quarterback in Chicago Bear history with his first year. That's what
Darius Butler said, what, two weeks ago? Two weeks ago. With his first year with a head coach,
first year in the system, he looks much different than he looked the year before.
And obviously that's going to be how it goes whenever you're a rookie in a bad situation.
But like Tannenbaum, very straight face, says trade him, get Bryce Young,
and get more pieces.
To your point, he was a GM.
Is there people thinking like that?
Is he the only human that's thinking like that, do you think, Darius?
People are very, very split.
You're either on one end of the spectrum or the other with Justin Fields.
Either you think he's going to be just a runner the whole time,
he'll never develop as a quarterback, or you're like, okay,
this is a lot of potential here, a lot of money,
didn't have a great surrounding offense.
And when that tweet or whatever, when it came out,
and it kind of grew when I said it on the show,
got a lot of DMs from a lot of people on the network oh no hell no fuck no absolutely not he'll be out so tanner
bomb saying that doesn't doesn't shock me because a lot of people kind of behind the scenes are
really split on and then with bryce young a lot of people feel like bryce young even with his
stature and all these different things like hey this kid has some special special trick people
compared him to a rod and all these other great quarterbacks.
Steph Curry.
Yeah.
When you start saying Steph Curry of a position like that,
that's a hell of a compliment.
AJ, what are your thoughts on this?
It's crazy, though.
I mean, I think it's somewhat crazy to think up,
but, I mean, that's what team, I guess GMs and stuff,
that's what they do at this time.
I don't know if anyone's seriously thinking about that, but his biggest wasn't it that yeah you get the picks back he thinks bryce uh excuse me bryce young is going to be
a great franchise quarterback but he's saying you get like two extra years on a rookie contract
basically instead of like hey you got to pay justin and what another year or two you you buy
yourself a couple years man that would just crazy to move on from the one the one positive piece of
your team it's kind of crazy to think of moving on but that. But I guess, like, Tannenbaum's been a GM,
so all these conversations happen and take place,
and how can we make our team a third GM?
Can we get a first and third for him?
For Justin, he said that there's enough teams that need a quarterback right now,
and with what Justin Fields was able to accomplish last year,
there's probably somebody that will take a shot and say,
yeah, fuck it, we need a quarterback, let's get a guy.
Colts, would you trade the number four overall pick for Fields?
So this is what Chris Ballard said yesterday.
He said if there was a quarterback he'd like,
he would move mountains or something to go get it done or whatever.
Yeah.
Asked if there's a QB at the top of the draft they want,
would he give up heaven and earth – there it is – to trade up and get him.
And Ballard said, yes, I'd do whatever it takes.
Are you saying maybe that's Justin Fields?
I mean, I feel like the Colts are definitely taking him and Taylor together.
And for the Bears, it's the only thought because Poles and it's not their guy.
It's not Ibrahimovic's guy.
Are we legitimizing this take?
I'm not legitimizing it.
Are we?
Just by talking?
But there's no way they can do that.
Poles already said that he will not trade him away.
So that's the – it makes those – whoa, shit.
Well, didn't he say something like it would take a whole hell of a lot?
Yeah, I love that.
You might not love him as a passer,
but he almost just set the NFL record for rushing yards by a quarterback.
Like, say whatever you want about that part of it.
But, like, again, I don't know.
It's just me personally.
Bryce Young, like, and you look at what Tua's doing.
Like, he's small.
And that doesn't mean that, like, he's not going to be able to play.
Not compared to humans.
No, right. As an NFL quarterback,
Justin Fields is a
massive, great athlete.
You don't necessarily... Mutant.
Tua gets a fucking concussion every
three weeks, and they have a very similar
build. Tease and peace. Tease and peace, of course.
Chicago's O-line isn't very
good. That's what happens with these teams
at the top of the draft. You draft the quarterback
and the guy gets the shit beat out of him for two to three
years. Is he going to be able to withstand
that? Who knows? You're going to be
taking big shots in the NFL
at quarterback. That's why from
the younger age to the older age
they have flap jackets on
as they get older. You just have this full
fucking bodysuit on of metal and plastic
because there's a chance you're going to be standing just like this,
and you're going to feel good.
You're going to be nice and loose.
Bang!
There is going to be a 15-mile-an-hour car crash
that is going to take place right on your spine.
And then your face is going to bounce off the ground.
Don't drop the ball, you fucking piece of shit.
Don't even think about it.
So you cuff that ball, and when you do that,
probably you're going to lose all the air in your body
because you're going to land on top of it.
And then what you need to do, you give that ball back to the ref,
you stand the fuck up, you get right back in that huddle,
and you act like nothing happened.
That is a trait that NFL quarterbacks have.
It is absurd.
They obviously get treated very special all the time.
Whatever the fuck you need, you got.
But there are moments in a game where they're going to get hit and take shots that nobody else is going to have to take,
and it's going to be heavy, and they're going to have to get right back up,
and if they show any sign of weakness at all, bitch bitch made cat, get this guy the fuck out of here.
Like that is something that,
so whenever somebody's 5'11", they're saying,
5'11", two inches shorter than me,
cowboy boots, four inches shorter than me, okay?
Those cowboy boots are unbelievable.
Yeah, oh yeah.
I've become a fucking giant.
Oh yeah.
6'6".
I'm looking down at AJ like this.
And then they're saying he's not
gonna run like an incredibly fast 40 so he's not gonna run at all probably let's hope he's quick
like purdy is but there's a chance that he gets some heavy heavy shots and you think about what
jalen hurts was able to do from last year to this year and i don't want to just say you know what
justin fields jalen hurts same people but if you people. But if you look at the ass, you look at the legs, you look at how they operate,
you look at the game plans that are probably going to be very similar going forward on how they play.
Jalen Hurts became an MVP candidate this year.
People are talking about him maybe not being in the NFL anymore.
What will Justin Fields do with another year in the NFL and another offseason?
It's like just to give up on that because maybe this guy who is an anomaly, I get it,
and he might be.
Fuck, he might be.
But Justin Fields might be as well,
and you're just going to give up on that?
Because that doesn't make any sense to me.
So whenever it was said by a guy who was a former GM,
I'm like, is this how they have to think in this part?
Or why are we even thinking like that?
I don't even know why that would even.
But Justin Fields might become a bust, I guess,ryce shun would be great and this is draft season
so you got to do the whole fucking song and dance i just don't make sense to me well and i'm sure
like i don't know how zeke feels or chicago fan feels but like i mean there are what maybe it's
like him and lamar jackson who can run with the football as a quarterback like and they're not
the same but like no one can provide explosive plays in the running game in terms of like this upcoming draft
like he can probably won't be another guy for a while and again you go back to the like not only
I personally don't really trust I mean the Alabama thing like get guess what the Bears aren't gonna
have the guys at skill positions that Bryce Young had every single year at Alabama where it's like
guys are wide open I mean it's the same thing it's like you Alabama is unbelievable but you're
going from arguably the best college football team they weren't this year and you know Georgia or
whatever but yeah exactly they they own you know college football but he's going from that to
the fucking worst team in the NFL like you know and know, and if you're 5'11", and you run a –
So you guys just got very offended by that.
Well, they are.
They have the first pick.
They're the worst team in the NFL.
That's just the way it is, you know.
I mean, it's a fact.
It's my choice.
Oh, you guys chose to do that?
Justin Fields said, I'm going to break the Russian record,
and then we're going to lose this or my game.
We're going to put an O line out there that can only block like every 10% play.
So, like, the Colts, for instance, we have number four overall pick.
If we were to trade for Justin Fields, we'd them they'd have one four yeah one and four yeah
probably take a second you get bryce young and maybe i mean you could what the bears could do
with that yeah exactly that's what i mean four is real high though i don't think we would give up
four what's that aj well i was just thinking like i think tannen did his job. We've been going on this thing for 10 minutes now.
I would imagine other shows might be, you know, speculating as well.
So, I mean, I guess that's what you're paid to do is come up with these things,
and we're trying to make it a reality.
Like, hey, how could this work?
How would it work for all these teams?
Yeah, and I literally, what, I'm 90 seconds removed from saying,
this is so dumb, it makes no sense.
And then I thought about being in Polis' position up there.
And it's like if the Colts come with the number four overall pick for justin fields and a third or second or whatever it is and you have the number one pick the number four pick multiple
seconds and multiple thirds it's like with a brand new head coach and brand new gm pretty much i mean
that would rookie quarterback contract that would i, Tannenbaum, not a bad.
Not a bad.
I mean, I don't know if the Colts at four are going to go, though.
To that point, vice versa, if you believe in Justin Fields
and you know other teams are going to covet Bryce Young,
you keep Fields, you trade that number one pick,
you move down a few spots and give yourself some more picks to get Fields some weapons and some O-line.
They have to trade back because they gave their second pick to Pittsburgh,
and they have so many holes to fill.
So no matter what, they need more picks right now to help.
A lot of money.
A lot of money.
Justin Fields and Indianapolis.
That would be sweet.
I'm game for that.
And if they did the Ravens route where it's like, okay,
we got Fields, Jonathan Taylor combined.
These guys are getting 50 touches.
His legs are very tired very early in his career.
Yeah, but his breathing.
He's learned.
Yeah, his breathing has taken over.
He did his breathing camp in Chicago.
That's right.
Now he's in Indy.
He's got it figured out.
No, there's no good vegan places around here.
Are you kidding me?
We'll open two of them.
That's right.
What are you going to do?
Indianapolis is the vegan.
No, no, we're going to put grass.
He'll play with grass on the bottom of his cleats.
Super grass.
That's actually really smart.
Why do more players not do that?
What did you say?
What was that?
He said he'll play with grass on the bottom of his cleats.
Oh, the super grass.
Yeah.
Then town fall. Why would more people do that? He said he'll play with grass on the bottom of his cleats. Oh, the super grass. Yeah.
That's town fault.
Why would more people do that?
Yeah, everybody's trying to get the lightest cleats of all time.
Can you add just a strip of patch of grass? Grass.
Big chunk of sod to save you from injuries.
Everything's grass with my grass cleats.
That's genius.
We do have a couple on the way that have been.
Okay.
We're up to something.
Whoa.
Okay.
Uh-oh.
Actually.
Okay.
We are up to something.
AJ, this is a big one.
I think you know what it is.
Don't give it away.
We got a big.
I don't think I could.
We got a big partnership coming up.
Let's just say that.
It's big.
Huge.
Just hunt for blue chips now.
We haven't even chatted about this at all.
That's how much we have evolved.
If this conversation had taken place three years ago, the announcement we're about to make,
it would have been two weeks worth of the show.
Every single segment would have been brought back
to something's coming, something's coming, something's coming.
We're a little bit, you know, spoiled at this point
because of the incredible amount of time
we've been able to spend on the internet
doing this whole thing.
We got a massive, we got a massive partnership coming up.
Huge.
I'm pretty proud of us.
Yeah.
Darius, I'm proud of you, man. Proud of you, guys. You proud of us. Yeah. Darius, I'm proud of you, man.
I'm proud of you, man.
You got a D-Bot?
AJ, I'm proud of you, man.
I'm proud of you.
What is it?
Shut up.
All right.
Who was it that was one and done with State Farm?
They're not coming back?
Yeah, that was a quick relationship.
Hey, don't have the doofuses in the back fucking.
We don't need any ad libs.
Okay, this isn't a...
Just read the thing, put the thing down,
move on to your next thing.
Okay, sounds good.
And we gave one...
We took that tractor...
One trip, one time.
Another run.
Good run. And we thought that would ruin all the blue chip companies forever. One trip. One time. Another round. Go Roy.
And we thought that would ruin all the blue chip companies forever.
You know, because they all talk to each other.
They all have the same ad agencies.
Oh, I don't want to do business with that crew.
Why?
Well, they got these guys that bark and do these things in the middle of your ad reads that you craft for hours and hours to make perfect.
You don't want to do that.
That changes.
That is changing.
That is changing quickly in a big way. Hell yeah. Oh my God, it's perfect. Eagle boy. You don't want to do that. That changes. That is changing. That is changing quickly in a big way.
Hell yeah.
Oh, my God, it's happening.
Hell yeah.
I should be more excited.
We didn't sleep much the last couple days.
No.
So we haven't really got to grasp this entire thing.
We've been working on this for a couple years now.
Long time.
A couple years.
Yeah, legit.
Good for us, team.
Way to go
good run
could run up
the score though
if we really
wanted to
like
if you think
oh is Pat
ever going to
sell this company
or whatever
if you see us
start just reading
a bunch of ad reads
bam bam bam
that's just to run
up the score
for the gross
value of the company
so then we can do
that whole thing
and I would only do
that if we still
remained in full creative control and everything, but
if somebody else wanted to deal with the semantics and the
bullshit, I think I'd be okay with that as well.
So just, you know, keep an eye out.
That could potentially happen. If you get Connor coming
back from three breaks an hour
and every read is just the same, maybe the
whole show is just read after read, trying
to run up a score. Solve and stake all. Bingo.
Yep. This question brought
to you by
Morton Steaks. Whose voice are you doing there?
You like steak for lunch, Tom?
Who's that? That's Jim Gray.
They had
an ad for every question.
That was awesome.
That was such an awesome strategy.
Oh, yeah. I think they worked.
I think everybody went to every business.
Oh, yeah.
Every question. All wants every business. Oh, yeah. Every question.
All 200 people listening.
Jesus.
What is your problem?
It's a travesty that nobody knew that show happened.
I'm pissed.
It's probably not going to happen ever again, right?
Yeah, probably not.
That is befuddling.
Just to the lowest denominator,
very befuddling how that show did zero waves in anything.
Right?
Yeah.
But it also, though, isn't it a lesson?
It shows people, like, people just assume,
oh, big-name guy, big-name person in the show.
Of course, everybody's going to listen.
Like, no, it's not the case.
Like, there's a lot of stuff that goes into it.
There's a lot of people listening right now that have no idea.
Tom Brady had a podcast every single week for the last two years.
He still has.
Last two years.
Tom Brady has a podcast.
He talks about everything.
Now, he doesn't dive into them, but nobody knows about it because literally nothing really comes out of it.
And Larry never asked a question either.
Larry's never on the show.
Larry Fitzgerald was supposed to be on the show at the beginning.
We just saw him.
Yeah, we saw him two nights ago.
He looks good.
Larry still looks good.
I didn't know if we were allowed to request him to come on the show or not if we were at the stage.
And he talked shit to me about never asking him to come on the show.
So he, like, was kind of an uncomfortable situation.
That's why I don't like going public too much, you know?
Fuck, Larry, what do you want me to do?
That's what I said.
Yeah, he said, you ever go have me on a show or whatever?
And I'm like, are we allowed?
It's a compliment.
It's a compliment.
You should say thank you.
Well, I said, are we allowed?
And he said, yeah.
I was like, all right, we'll send a request in.
And if you want to turn us down, like, all good.
He goes, get out of here.
And then he, like, dapped up, went to his plane.
Yep.
And I felt like it was a genuine interaction.
It was.
He's a dog.
Oh, yeah.
He's huge.
Why do you leave?
All the time.
He is huge. And you leave he is huge
why is he done he retired early right don't we all think
man he played forever he played for a long time but yeah but he still had like a 10 million dollar
a year offer just like waiting and other teams were interested finally got a really good
quarterback 11 pros he just he was part of the sales part owner and the sons right yeah he's part of his sons he's also in some good golfer was part of that sale. Part owner of the Suns, right? Yeah, he's part owner
of the Suns. He's also in some golf course.
He's a member of the golf course.
A bunch of billionaires.
He had a
great, great run.
First ballot.
His hands were just impeccable, right? He was just incredibly
tough as well. He played 17 seasons.
More tackles and drops.
And I say he...
Yeah, that's insane.
I said he ended early just strictly because he had a lot of offers still.
Yeah, the Cardinals would have paid him.
He'd still be a Cardinal this year if he wanted to.
And I think other teams, too.
There would have been other teams that would have offered Larry Fitzgerald if he was available.
He just kind of stepped away, stepped back.
I guess it's because of business reasons.
He was supposed to be a part of Tom Brady's podcast.
We never saw him.
Never saw him.
Damn shame. Probably got a lot of thoughts to give still. We never saw him. Never saw him. Damn shame.
Probably got a lot of thoughts to give still.
We should ask him on the show a lot.
Yeah.
Why don't we do that?
What's your deal?
What's our deal?
Why didn't we ask Larry Fitzgerald?
We thought he hated us?
What do we do to Larry?
Probably just always assume he didn't want to come on.
Yeah, he's busy doing Tom's show.
He's golfing.
He's golfing.
He's taking pictures.
He's got basketball.
See, this is the problem with our show.
We're so lazy.
We make all these excuses.
Oh, also, we don't want to send out a request for somebody,
them leave us on red or ghost, and then us having to run into them,
and then it's automatically an awkward conversation.
What's that, AJ?
It's all right.
It's okay.
What happens when we run into them, and they know, and I know?
They feel weird.
They feel weird.
You don't feel weird.
Yeah, I don't want anybody to feel weird.
I want everybody to feel good.
Hey, what's going on? How you doing? Let's keep it moving. No big deal.
Hey, can I ask you to come on the show sometime?
Yeah. Sweet. Awesome.
Never do. Remember, ask Russ. Hey, can I ask you
to come on the show sometime? He said,
absolutely. He didn't tell me to go to Team 3, which is big
from what I'm learning.
We've never requested him on. Maybe next year.
Maybe that's why he said it. Russ will be good on here.
I think so.
Everybody's saying he needs to come on. Might requested him on. Maybe next year. Should get him on. Maybe that's why he said it. Russ will be good on here. I think so. Everybody's saying he needs to come on.
Might bring him back.
He's back.
Yeah, I'm back.
Team W, bro.
I think he still needs a couple slices of humble pie to be all the way back,
but he ate a decent amount this year.
What are you talking about?
Russell Wilson's been Russell Wilson since the very beginning.
This is a guy.
He is a humble guy.
Remember, fourth rounder? He's always been the same person. He was just winning football games in the very beginning. This is a guy. He is a humble guy. Remember, fourth rounder?
He's always been the same person.
He was just winning football games in the past.
A couple of callers.
I still think someone needs to put his feet to the fire a little bit.
Well, he did.
Team W.
He's no longer Team 3.
Remember, he's Team W.
We'll see.
What?
They beat the Raiders.
He put out a tweet.
Team W.
A lot of work to do.
Dankful, excited to go.
You know what I mean?
I saw him get emotional thanking his teammates.
That wasn't like team win.
That is a team three, I guess.
TW.
Yeah.
Can't fool us.
What a rebrand.
Have we seen the truck again that he rolled into camp on?
I haven't seen him drive that.
That could have been something he could have done to change his image, though, mid-season.
Should have thought about hopping in that fucking wagon.
That thing was so large.
Or a Harley.
I've been able to ride my Harley
in years, by the way. Let's fix the roads.
Because he won't.
Next year he should be out in a truck for
camp in full pads.
Yeah, with eye black on.
Full Russell Wilson costume.
Helmet in hand, I think.
No, wearing it while driving.
He's wearing the helmet?
Yep.
Whatever the case, they win games.
He's back to being cool.
Let's cover a couple more things that happened.
Roquan Smith's on a five-year, $100 million extension with the Ravens.
This is fascinating because they traded for Roquan.
He comes in.
He is obviously beloved in their culture.
Five-year, $100 million.
Get that man paid.
Congratulations to Roquan Smith. That news was broken via St. Omni, via Ian Rappaport.
Roquan represented himself in the negotiation.
So the Ravens were able to get a deal done with Roquan.
Will they now be able to get a deal done with Lamar?
And Lamar is missed.
It has been 38 days since he sprained his PCL.
I don't know how many practices he has been missed,
but everything has been counted for now at this point and being monitored.
It is being said that he's not going to play this weekend,
and he is out yet again.
38 days after he sprained his PCL.
Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson missed another practice,
and he is on track to miss his sixth straight game.
The way Schefter phrases that sounds like that's coming from the Ravens,
the information, and also, hey, just put this in perspective.
This is how long it's been for a spring PCL.
The reason why it's a conversation is because his contract situation
and how the entire year has gone.
I'm fascinated by it all.
He retweeted somebody last night explaining the situation,
saying his knee is actually fucked up, really hurt, or whatever.
So I think he believes his knee is actually injured.
He hasn't signed his long-term deal yet. He has a lot of days but it sounds like the ravens and ravens
fans are like hey come on we need to get back in here what are your thoughts on aj how do you think
this whole thing ends yeah i don't know lamar personally at all but i know people that coached
him in college i know different people that played with them and coached him and they all like it
doesn't sound like lamar like to sit out if he does feel like he can play he's a guy that like he's he's proven that he goes about his own way he's very
unique i think and how he views and responds and like it's awesome it's actually refreshing to see
how he is so yeah i don't think i don't think he's sitting there and feeling really really good
like that i'm just not gonna do it i'm gonna let my boys i'm gonna let them all hang out to dry
like he's not that kind of guy and by the, he could very easily be that kind of guy with what has happened in his own division
with another quarterback that has set the market for him to get paid the amount of money that he should be commanding.
$230 million was guaranteed to Deshaun Watson.
Deshaun Watson had not taken a single snap for the Cleveland Browns.
The Cleveland Browns are obviously inside the Baltimore Ravens division.
He's the next quarterback up.
He's already won an MVP and a playoff game.
He is the franchise.
He leaves.
Your fan's probably going to be leaving as well.
He's what sells the tickets, the merch.
He's the Energizer bunny, and he's the full focus of your offense.
When he's not playing, you guys stink, and you're boring to watch.
I have no idea why a deal has not been completed with Lamar Jackson.
He put out a window and said, if we get past this, a timeline,
we're not negotiating anymore.
If they would have went to him with what he was asking for,
or at least close that we can maybe move a little bit.
Remember, Deshaun, $230 million guaranteed.
That is not Lamar Jackson's fault that Deshaun Watson, David Mulageta,
and the Cleveland Browns set the quarterback market right there in their division.
That's not Lamar's fault.
Lamar's doing business how business has been done.
Business has been done by comparing.
That is why comps are a very real thing.
So Lamar's doing good business here by asking for at least what Deshaun Watson's getting.
But they could have been able to get to a point, I think, where he signs a deal where we don't have to question this whole thing,
which is what Ravens fans are clearly doing in the way Schefter puts out that tweet,
clearly wanting people to potentially do as well.
Darius J. Butler.
And to go back to what AJ was saying, I agree.
Everything he said about Lamar.
We even say he could have, maybe should have been a little more of an asshole,
you know, coming into this year and not showing up until he had a deal that he wanted.
And the price is only going to go up.
Nobody's met that 230 fully guaranteed yet,
but I'm sure at some point, you know, with Burrow and Herbert
and these guys coming up, somebody will.
But, I mean, that franchise, you look at them without Lamar,
like nobody's giving him a shot this weekend if he's not playing.
Harbaugh's a good coach.
Yeah, great coach.
They've gone all in around Lamar, right?
Remember Flacco-Lamar handoff was an interesting time.
That first offseason, they cut a bunch of people,
changed their entire offensive system.
They go all in around Lamar.
We're going three tight ends.
We're fucking Patrick Ricard as a defensive end.
He's coming to fullback for this thing.
We're going to load up in the running back game.
So we're going to run old school, use what Lamar does.
We'll throw every once in a while to a tight end after the play action works. We'll score a touchdown. And it captivated the world. Lamar
Jackson was must watch television. You're talking about the oldest form of football, power, just
running, gun and everything. Lamar's hitting spin moves, 17 yards down the field at 20 miles an
hour. It was a must see affair whenever Lamar was playing football. Now this year, injury takes place.
Last year, there was COVID that happened, and I think an injury took place,
and the deal's not done.
And then there's leaks getting out, right?
That are not – it's like –
He's a slacker.
He's a slacker and stuff like that.
It's like that's on purpose.
That's getting leaked on purpose for a reason.
Is that to drive down his value in the fans' eyes because all the were like pay this fucking man his money why are they doing that are they
thinking about not franchise tagging them and moving on and they're trying to like let our
fans know like hey we're moving on from something that's not that like there's so much at play here
there's so much at play here and lamar is the ravens's a – he can come to Indianapolis.
Oh, yeah.
He can come right over here to Indianapolis, easy to get to.
People love him.
We got money, too.
We'll pay.
We'll pay anybody.
We literally will pay anybody out here,
including a guy that will sell out the stadium immediately upon being signed anywhere.
Yeah.
Lamar's an interesting spot, but we're all here because a deal wasn't made,
and I think a deal could have been made.
We'll see.
I mean, a lot of stuff can obviously happen,
but it seems like where things stand right now, like it's very possible
we have a Kirk Cousins situation.
We'll just tag him, tag him, and then boom, all right, let this guy go be a free agent.
Because we haven't really – I mean, obviously they stopped the negotiations,
but they were so – what was reported, I think it was Mort or someone reported it when we first heard about it,
they were so fucking far off from what he was asking for.
It's like hard to believe that you are that far off,
and then all of a sudden, again, it's not true.
You're going to make up for it.
Yeah, right.
I don't think that's, you know, these owners are very shrewd businessmen,
and it just doesn't seem like all of a sudden, out of nowhere,
they're going to find $90 million for him.
Well, not all of them, you know.
One of them decided to pay $230 million to a guy
that hadn't played football in a couple of years.
Could be a long-con great move to get some of these other quarterbacks out of the division.
Yeah, because if you're richer than all the other owners in your division
and you reset the market and those owners can't keep up with the market,
all of a sudden you're banking on a rookie quarterback every four years.
Yeah.
Every three years.
Every three years.
So not a bad play.
Maybe the Waltons come in the game, too, as well.
They tried with Russell Wilson.
Whoever buys the commanders, Bezos, I assume he's going to pay.
Oh, yeah.
As much as he needs to for a quarterback.
Bezos goes, from my year of having Thursday night football exclusive rights with the NFL,
it goes as a quarterback goes.
Our ratings, whenever good quarterbacks were playing, were high.
When there wasn't a good quarterback, guess what?
Nobody was there.
So I will have my hand in the day-to-day football operations
because I've been able to do a lot of other things
and expedite a lot of other things and buy a lot of other things.
We need a good quarterback.
That's mission number one here with the Commanders.
He'll fucking pay.
Oh, yeah.
And then that's a whole new market.
Jerry Jones is going to have to keep up with that one.
Mara is going to have to keep up with that one.
Daniel Jones, inevitably what's going to have to happen.
Jalen Hurts' next deal.
I mean, there is like some divisions that are going to get heightened quick, and that's
because of the money
that's coming into the league because these billionaires aren't coming in to fucking lose
are they you know what i won't get in the nfl to do what suck just suck just lose tepper's fired
100 people tepper's like fuck i'll pay fucking we were getting a winner here entire one of his
businesses bankrupt just because of the mismanagement of different things he doesn't
care what where his money goes or what he has to do now he's talking about the facility that was
being built in a town in north carolina and because north carolina didn't hold up its end of the
bargain quick enough for the finances he said fuck i'll file bankruptcy now there's a building half
built yeah in a town yeah that's supposed to be their facility now that's shrewd business, man. That is the epitome of it.
Brand new to a city.
We're building a facility, a new place.
It's going to be great. And then the city doesn't hold up
their end of the bargain in his eyes, which
I could see how that would take place with government.
You know, being in government.
Is that the game you want to play?
Cool. Hi, Carolina.
I don't get fucked around with bankruptcy.
I'm not paying anybody either.
You guys got to fucking pay them.
That's what you guys are doing.
I'm moving on.
That's crazy.
He's an owner.
He was the richest owner in the NFL at the time.
He filed bankruptcy for a company.
That's the type of business that is being run by some of these guys.
Shrewd.
I wonder, like, how does the city feel about that?
They can't feel great he did that.
Well, the city, I think if you're a Teppers, you should have.
Yeah.
We had a deal.
I did my deal.
Get into your deal.
This is what happens in the real world.
Welcome to the real world.
Bang.
City, yeah, they're probably going to be a little jaded for a while.
You win a Lombardi, though.
Exactly.
Panthers get good.
We'll get that real quick.
You win a Lombardi, though.
You're A-OK.
A couple more things.
Tua probably out versus the Bills.
Skyler Thompson expected to start.
NFL viewership's up
across the board. We hit that.
Raiders are looking into Tom Brady. This is
a real deal now. Unequivocally
a fact. Part of the Dan Patrick
show, I believe Breer said it on there.
Tom Brady and the Raiders, potentially
a future thing. We, and I guess at the time it on there. Tom Brady and the Raiders, potentially a future thing.
We, and I guess at the
time it was breaking news because somebody wrote a fucking
article about it. We said
in one of our think tank sessions live in
the microphones that happens on a regular
basis. We have a four hour show basically every day.
We were like, Tom Brady's going to Vegas.
There is 100%. We got
to the point where Tom Brady's going to Vegas.
They got weapons. Obviously Devante's there. Darren Waller's there. Hunter Renfro is there. They got a the point where Tom Brady's going to Vegas. They got weapons. Obviously, Devontae's there.
Darren Waller's there.
Hunter Renfro is there.
They got a running back in Josh Jacobs who said,
I just want to be a Raider.
They seemingly have all the pieces that Tom Brady would want
when it comes to a personnel department.
Then you add in Josh McDaniels was the guy in his ear
for literally the best moments of his life,
and he's trying to run that offense with Derek Carr,
and obviously it's not taking place.
So Tom Brady's going to the Raiders that just makes too much sense we got
to that point on this show now it's being talked about that the Raiders are certainly going to look
in to Tom Brady and also Jimmy G I believe was the other report because Jimmy G has history with
McDaniels as well and he'll be on the move your thoughts on it all Connor because I think you've
paid attention to it pretty closely with McDaniels, Tom Brady, and Jimmy G.
This is basically a New England reunion potentially happening in Sin City.
Yeah, you definitely think if Tom Brady goes there, they're immediately, you know, they slide right up into those top five teams that are favorites of the Super Bowl.
And even with Jimmy G, if Jimmy goes there with McDaniels, because you've seen what he's done with McDaniels.
They won, you know, three Super Bowls, obviously,ls, obviously, during 14, 16, 18 with Brady.
And then even when Jimmy G came in during the Deflate Gates suspension years in 2016,
Jimmy G played lights out for him.
So this does feel almost too obvious to the point where this is kind of confirmed in my mind.
This is how it's going to go.
There's no other way I see this happening, especially with the offensive weapons and because of what happened with the buccaneers transition it was
much more obvious it felt like after the fact looking at the buccaneers like oh he's going to
go there of course he is they have wide receivers that are unbelievable you know he'll be able to
implement his own offense and now with mcdaniels it feels like we've learned from that situation
now it's like oh he doesn even have to implement his own offense.
He's just come in and play the football he did for 20 years
and add in Devontae Adams and Darren Waller.
Same language, too.
Same language, Hunter Renfroe.
These guys already know.
He doesn't have to go through that awkward trying to learn or teach a system.
He's going to a place.
The McDaniels system, we would assume, is similar to Bill Belichick's,
which is what Tom Brady, we're talking about day-to-day, how things go.
Yeah, bingo.
Changing plays Friday, Saturday.
Changing concepts Sunday.
It seems like it's too obvious, I think, is what we said earlier.
Would you like them as favorites if he went over there?
That's a tough division.
I mean, when you name the weapons they have on offense,
and you have Max Crosby and Chandler Jones on defense,
I mean, it would be hard not to take them serious.
Darius's face is signifying some disagreement.
I just don't trust McDaniels at the head coach's point.
And they did.
They got some fun.
What about Tom?
Tom would be the head coach, really.
I mean, that's what we thought with the Bucs this year, too.
But you've seen a lot of, you know, just, I guess, dysfunction.
It looks like a completely different team with B.A. going, in my opinion.
But, obviously, Josh McDaniels has been an offensive guy.
They already have that relationship, that understanding there.
And they were reportedly – wasn't Brady going there with Gronk a couple years ago?
Yeah, Dana White.
Reportedly.
Dana White.
That's the first time we talked about him because how much is going on in football.
What the fuck was that?
I think he's doing a press conference about it right now, I believe.
I thought I just saw it.
I saw some people tweeting me, how come you haven't talked about Dana White?
How come you haven't talked about Dana White? It's like, I did not know
what was happening with Dana White. There was something rather large
happening in the NFL world. Somebody died on a field,
came back to life, we're in the playoffs.
That was crazy.
I thought that was a fake video.
It was also on New Year's Eve and we were working that
game until well after
the fallout of all that stuff happened.
I saw Dana White's name in the headlines.
Dana White's name is always in the headlines because everything going on in the NFL
and college football happening at the same time.
I didn't really get a chance to catch up with it all.
I thought that was fake.
That was real.
Oh, yeah.
Can't do that.
Nope.
Can't do that at all.
That's terrible.
Oh, yeah.
Is he really having a press conference?
I don't know.
It makes sense.
He came out and had a – I mean, he talked right away, and then –
so I thought he was trying to, like, stay under the radar right now.
I haven't seen enough of the follow –
I saw the video for the first time full, like, very recently.
Did that happen to St. – did that happen Monday night?
When that Monday night game happened or saturday ohio state uh georgia game that's what i'm saying i didn't
see it yeah look to this to your point we've been kind of in the same world right now football just
had a buzz i mean we're talking oh yeah buzz off at 10 days here to start 2023 not good news
obviously the demar news Not good news, obviously.
The DeMar news, not good news at all.
The college football playoff, the NFL, everything going on.
It's like, I didn't see that.
I thought it was fake.
Can't do it.
Can't do it.
Can't have it.
I don't know what he's saying.
That's going to be tough to explain.
The wife slapped him.
He slaps back is what I saw.
And it looks like they're at like a basic dive bar.
Yeah, they were in Cabo, I think, or something like that.
But he spat.
I mean, that was.
Oh, yeah, playing no games.
That was a bad.
That's not good.
Don't do that.
Can't see that.
Can't have other people see that and think it's okay.
That is not okay.
And that is not how you show you love each other either.
Okay? I don't know.
This is.
They came out.
I think she.
I think they both.
I don't.
That was a wild video to watch live as
somebody who has talked to dana a lot i did not know obviously i should have paid attention to
it closer we are not a mixed martial arts ufc program except for whenever dana stops by and
ariel used to stop by he now works for literally every company but our company right right yep i
mean he is an incredible talent but that we we don't know. I watch the fights. I don't know much about it.
So it's not in my algorithm is what I'm saying.
Like, it's not in my – so I apologize for not talking about this sooner.
Can't happen.
Anybody can't do it.
Dana White addressing the media at UFC Apex.
This is via Carlos Contreras Legaspi.
People should not be defending me.
There's no excuse.
Okay, good.
Yeah, nobody else. I was going to say, I don't know. not be defending me. There's no excuse. Okay, good. Yeah.
Nobody else.
I was going to say, I don't know.
Who's defending you?
I don't know.
Let's move on.
That's not cool, though, obviously.
Tom Brady being a Raider would be crazy.
Jimmy G being a Raider would be crazy.
Pete Carroll's on a scooter.
Yep.
Hanging out.
What kind of scooter?
Vibes are high in the Seattle Steel.
We'll talk about it tomorrow.
It is fantastic.
Megacast numbers are in.
483,000 viewers on ESPN2.
Is that good?
What does that mean?
Well, see, there it is.
There's the next stat.
Up 206% from ESPN2's title game window last year as part of the Megacast.
And as we do know, there's a way to make any number look good.
You know, people do that for a living. I guess's good you know i guess that's good sports tv ratings quote tweeted
this one and said only three percent of the viewing market though let's not get too crazy
and i follow the sports rating so i don't know what's good what's not good i didn't have any
expectation i will say i can't thank the people that watched along with us enough that game was obviously hilarious and a blowout but we had a blast and
thank you for making it a success if you read that one particular stat and uh i think we're all
you know understanding of the fact that we're very lucky to do what we do for a living
us getting to just walk that field, so stupid.
So, so stupid.
And, like, thank you for allowing us to do this to people that watched.
Unreal.
Right?
So cool.
I don't know if anybody else wants to give thank yous or whatever,
but, like, legitimately fucking so cool, and thank you for that.
And I'm happy somebody watched.
Yeah.
Well, and also I assume that it, you know,
exceeded expectations if it was 206% better than or more watched than it was last year.
And also I believe the game as a whole was like the least watched game
since the college football playoff started.
So, yeah, only 3% of the ratings, but, I mean,
not as many people watched this year.
They probably went probably last couple minutes of that second quarter
like, all right, let's see what they're going to do over here.
I told you, Barmageddon.
Yeah.
That's a big up.
Vrabel was on.
Yeah, Vrabel and Trace Atkins.
Is he good on that?
As soon as you did that report, they said the numbers for both the game and ours.
Yeah, tank.
Kind of tank.
So thanks for doing that from that sweet.
That's just what people were saying on Twitter.
No, we appreciate the opportunity, though,
and thank you for watching alongside of us.
Oh, yeah.
It was a lot of fun.
It is.
More fun than I thought it would be, honestly.
All right, let's take a break.
Everything DB will be on the other side.
I think we wrapped up everything we had to talk about today.
Yes.
Got some stuff for tomorrow.
And then, obviously, we're about to dive into the playoff weekend.
Oh, yeah.
I get to wake up at home.
Here we go.
It's huge.
And go to bed at home
Friday after the show
And this has happened a couple times this year
It's been nice
I'm going from here to my house
That's crazy
It's been a long time
Not downtown anymore either
Your house is much more malleable
Than where it was
That's not true It's Lake Monroe Your house is much more malleable than where it was.
That's not true.
It's Lake Monroe.
Well, that's what I said.
I mean, it's still 45 minutes away, but it used to be an hour and 15. You got the truck now.
Well, the saving the planet thing?
Yeah.
So basically, it can drive you home if you want it to.
Big report on nightly news last night about the storms coming to California right now,
the rain, and then there's snow everywhere in California, I guess, as well, in different places.
In Southern Cal?
No, in the mountains.
No, in the mountains.
But the snow is heavy.
They're talking about the snowstorm being super heavy.
And obviously the rain is alarming because it's a place that doesn't have a lot of rain normally.
Mudslides.
Mudslides.
Sinkholes.
I saw two cars in a sinkhole.
There's a lot out there.
A lot that can happen to you out there.
Santa Clarita. Santa Clarita.
Santa Clarita.
Two cars down inside of a thing.
Nobody got hurt.
They got out.
Thank God.
That was an alarming shot.
Yeah, fuck that.
How are the electric cars in the floods?
Isn't that like a big no-no?
I think engines and floods are bad to begin with,
but I would assume electricity also does not deal with it well.
A lot of Teslas out there.
The one that happened in Florida was like over 200,000 Teslas that had to be returned for something like that.
A lot of Teslas in California.
A lot of nice cars.
Self-driving Tesla just caused a little pile up in a tunnel, I think, in Cali.
Saw that.
No.
Nine car pile up.
Somebody crashed into that?
It just stopped in the middle of the tunnel.
And the driver said it was on full self-driving mode.
And then just...
Dude was probably bopping it.
Guaranteed.
Massive chance.
They do have that big iPad-like screen in there.
It's really nice.
Yeah, definitely.
Is he in the backseat?
No, front seat.
Just killing it.
Front seat.
Just beating himself up.
He's in the driver's seat beating the hell out of his... Because you're supposed to have to touch the wheel every like 10 seconds or so.
Well, he puts his feet up on the wheel.
Oh, hell yeah.
Oh, no.
Left hand coming from underneath.
Underneath, that's right.
His legs on the windshield?
Yeah, basically.
He had left foot out the window Right leg up on the windshield
Left hand under
Touching the wheel every
Did he die?
Did you follow up on that?
That's a tough position
I didn't see
His pelvis might have been removed
He might have
Yeah
Might have squeezed his fucking baloney right off.
I don't know.
You get hit hard enough from behind.
This show is so terrible.
We hope everybody's okay.
But the self-driving thing, another thing that, like, honestly, obviously you don't do.
Is there a shift knob in those things?
A what?
A shift knob, like a gear shift?
What are you implying, Nick?
You do it on this.
This is actually wide open.
Good.
They actually sell, like, I don't know.
Nick thought he was posted up right in the middle of the console.
Nick thought he was posted up right there.
Oh, one leg on each.
Oh, shit.
Far right lane.
Stop.
Stop.
Oh, and then everyone behind him.
Oh, fuck.
Jeez, that white car back there
Look at the brakes too
Not moving
Yeah good brakes
Definitely good
Hey get out
Pants on
We can see
Oh his pants are down
There
I need some help
Look at him getting out
He's gotta explain it
To fucking 40 people
Yeah
I know
I'm a pilot I was popping So now whose fault is it Look at him getting out. He's got to explain it to fucking 40 people. Yeah. I know.
I'm a pilot.
I was popping.
So now whose fault is it?
This is what they were.
How quickly did he get out of that car, too?
I'm trying to go the other way.
I think if I'm probably a friend maybe following.
He's a hero.
There's. Of course.
This car got hit.
Not enough to file an insurance claim.
I'm out of here Suby
This added 50 hours to some people's days
The amount of traffic after this
This guy's gonna help me get his pants on now
Oh I've seen that video
Once again we did not know if the man
That was riding alongside autopilot
In a Tesla that caused a 30 car
Fucking pile up to take place.
Was bopping his beat or not, but...
Huge chance.
It could be.
What are you doing?
So you have to touch the wheel?
So when that thing starts slowing down, he could have changed it?
Can you override it?
Have to be able to.
I feel like putting your foot on the gas overrides it.
Yeah, cruise control.
Do you know how that came into the Tesla car?
I have a Teslala one of the first
ones no big deal i thought i was saving the world then i started driving and i'm like oh this is
like the greatest car of all time it's faster than everybody it's quicker than everybody i
gotta plug it into the house this is unbelievable it turns out that getting the battery is not
necessarily the most uh planet friendly thing which for every action there's an equinox of
reaction obviously i thought i was saving the world when i bought it turned out i might have been doing it uh quite a disservice but
the autopilot thing was literally just installed to my my car overnight i got an update uploaded
updates like a phone i got an email that said your your car now has autopilot congratulations
and i'm like well certainly not doing that yeah It's awesome that they're doing it, but there's no way I'm doing that.
I've never tried it.
You have to be involved, though.
I know there's a beta
like it'll do everything
basically, but that's not even really
a package that I know of that you can really use much.
But you've got to touch the wheel
legit every 10, 12 seconds,
I think. You got an autopilot car?
No, my wife had a tesla for a couple
years and that was same thing it'd be nice if it just if you could just type into the address and
it takes you there which it kind of does but you have to be alert and touch the wheel and mess with
it the whole time so what were you doing in there that you immediately thought to yourself this guy's
popping his name no because i know there's a story people He's a faux pauper? People get worried. People are like, oh, man, this Tesla, one out of 700 million of them crashed.
I'm like, yeah.
And every day, a billion people crash their cars that are controlling it themselves.
It's still much safer.
So you're saying I should not just never do it because of what I just watched there?
Because I thought what I just watched there was-
You have some awareness.
Never do it.
You're not bopping at Spread Eagle in the middle of a tunnel.
Did you drive the Tesla with two feet?
Well, yeah. What do you in the middle of a tunnel. Did you drive the Tesla with two feet? Well, yeah.
What do you mean?
It's a car.
There's a brake and a gas.
You ever use valet mode?
Not gas.
Have you ever driven a manual?
Yeah, I learned how to drive on a stick.
So you would just rest your left foot on the brake after you would shift?
Yeah.
What do you mean?
We've talked about this.
Okay, easy.
Easy.
Calm down.
Jeez.
Just chatting.
So awesome.
Obviously, if you're driving a stick, your foot is on the clutch pretty much the whole time.
But then as soon as you shift, boom, right on the brake.
So you're just riding that clutch.
That thing's just...
I don't know.
When you say riding...
Just smelling.
Just smelling the whole car.
Granny shifts it.
You can't hold your foot above a pedal.
You have to be touching it.
You're doing a fucking leg lift the entire time.
Get some good tibs, bud.
It's tibs.
Use some tibs.
Jeez.
So you're telling me you're fucking...
Ben, we're driving here.
Yeah.
And you're sitting on top of the clutch the whole time?
No, I'm bringing my toe up.
Bring your toe up a little bit.
Rest your heel on the ground and bring your toe up above it.
So you got like one of those quick clutches.
Quick release.
A short one.
Like a three cone drill.
Listen, I've been floating gears since I'm fucking 14 years old.
I ain't never heard somebody just rest their foot on a clutch.
That's awesome.
I don't touch it.
Until I need to.
So you just view every drive as a workout.
All right.
Left leg getting a little extra stability today.
Just hold that thing up on top of that, please.
Dang, dang.
Dang, dang.
Do you rest it on break when you drive?
No, I don't touch a break or the clutch ever unless I'm using it.
All right.
I respect the way you drive, pal.
You're like a race car driver.
Hell yeah.
A lot of people say it's dumb what you're doing, but not me.
I know Marty.
Who was it?
It was fucking McGee.
No.
Yeah, McGee said, yeah, he's a big.
He said Larson's going to win the cup this year.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that was a tough call.
Darius, what are your thoughts on Kyle Larson?
No thoughts.
I didn't even know who the fucking guy was.
I can't even remember mine.
Conversation. We just knew him from the internet.
Guess guy can drive the shit out of a car.
I guess.
He's been rolling.
Thought he was going to return.
Nonetheless, we move our attention to the secondary of the NFL.
Ladies and gentlemen, it is time for the most recent episode. the season finale of Everything DB with Darius
Butler.
Hey, D-Bud.
How you doing, D-Bud?
I'm great, D-Bud.
How y'all doing?
Good, you?
Good.
How you doing?
Good.
Let's get through it, man.
Let's get through this.
Get through it.
No.
No, no, no, no.
D-Bud.
AJ, tell him.
AJ.
We're going to thrive.
We're not getting through it, D- tell him. We're going to thrive.
We're not getting through it, D-Bud.
We're going to thrive.
We're going to get better and smarter during this segment.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Hell yeah.
People try to get through things.
Let's not get through things.
Let's do things.
Enjoy it.
Let's live these things. Let's enjoy it.
Let's enjoy it.
Enjoy things, D-Bud.
D-Bud.
What?
Sweetheart.
Are you okay, D-Bud?
Is everything okay?
Patriot's epic.
I'm all right.
What's up?
All right.
I'm just making sure we're getting through things.
Is that a bad, some negative connotation on that?
Yeah, like getting through is like, all right, let's fucking get through this.
Yeah, let's put our head down.
I guess your tone wasn't that way, but.
Sorry about it.
D-Bud doesn't.
Don't be sorry.
Don't be sorry.
Let's get to it.
He's been hanging out too much with us, I think.
No, he's super negative.
He's just done with it. He wants to get through it. No, we're talking ball, baby. We're talking defense. We're talking to it. He's been hanging out too much with us, I think. Now he's super negative. He's just done with it.
We're talking ball, baby.
We're talking defense.
We're talking coverages.
Hell yeah.
Hey, here we go.
Hell yeah.
Here we go.
Let's go.
Sweet.
Everything did be.
I should have kept the ball in the bull one.
I know.
Yeah.
Good Patriots play.
I love this.
Actually, it's the bad Patriots.
What?
Good Josh Allen play.
This is Josh Allen being special.
Now, Patriots, they have some good plays.
Really, Josh Allen bad plays.
Come on.
But the thing about Josh is it's always really on him what he does.
So, you'll see the defense rotating down.
But this is really going to be Josh Allen being special kind of on that second reaction play.
Extending the pocket.
Going to keep it out on his backside.
Curl flat defender.
This will end up being cover three.
As you can see, single high safety. Deep third, deep third. You got four underneath defenders. And initially, they have pretty good coverage. It's going to be an over
route from this tight split. So you can pause it here. So at this point, this is a true zone
dropping. So everybody's kind of getting to their drops. It's not matching in the cover threes. Up
here at the corner, he's going to get drawn up by this curl route
and now this on this backside curl flat defender right so yeah miles brown's bryant so he has no
work over here so he's looking at okay what can attack me from the opposite side of the field so
obviously this run through defender is going to clear out that post safety and 16 is trying to run
to open space which initially is going to be covered.
But even his own drop coverages, once the quarterback extend these plays, as Josh Allen is doing right here,
and then he's going to point and direct him upfield.
This defender now with eyes on has to kind of plaster this guy and just run with him like a man coverage. He doesn't. Well, he does late. But Josh Allen, this ball.
So this is the best of Josh Allen.
When he's playing at the top of his game, he's obviously one of the top two or three quarterbacks in the league.
That guy's got to stay on him, you say.
He's got to stay on him.
So pause it.
So kind of right here at this point, you see Josh Allen breaking the pocket.
So now it turns into a scramble drill.
Big Ben, Aaron Rodgers, the reason those quarterbacks are so tough to play against
is because they have the play initially, obviously,
but once they break the pocket, now it's almost like backyard football.
And that's what happened with Josh Allen.
He sees them.
He sees, okay, this is the only defender.
Post safety is out of there.
So he just tells them kind of go upfield.
Point them upfield.
You run it back a couple frames, you'll see the point.
If you're like a coach, at what point does one guy get beat?
Are you okay?
Is everything all right?
Good.
We getting through this?
Getting to this.
There you go.
Oh, that was good.
Hell yeah.
That was good.
That was good.
That was good.
How many times does a D-back have to get beat until they finally say,
okay, this guy just isn't good at football.
We shouldn't play him.
Who are you talking about?
Number 27, Miles Bryant.
Easily public enemy number one for the New England Patriots.
Not even close.
I mean, I can't tell you how much the people of New England
fucking hate this guy's guts.
I feel bad for the guy.
I've been that guy before in New England.
It's tough out there.
It's tough out there, but you got to perform.
You got to make plays.
I'm sure Bryant will be great, but this is a tough play.
No, no, I'm sure he won't.
Do you know he switched his number to 27 after J.C. Jackson left?
Did you do that, like, after Ty Law retired?
Were you like, you know what, I'm going to be 24 now?
I thought you guys said J.C. Jackson was bad.
No, J.C. Jackson was very good for us when he leaves,
like a lot of players do, unfortunately.
They have a little bit of a drop-off.
But he got hurt.
It's a much different situation.
Hey, this isn't about Miles.
But fucking Miles Bryant.
This is about Josh fucking Allen making a great play and a great throw.
It doesn't matter who that guy was.
It's John Brown's first catch.
Kirk Cousins.
Here we go here.
Once again, a version of cover 3 again with the Chicago Bears.
You got third and seven on this play, I believe, and you got a bunch down here.
Now, it's going to be outside flood concept, which is always tough in any coverage,
but especially in zone coverage because you, by the name, you're flooding the zones, right,
or the side of the field.
So you're going to have a low out, which is going to be Justin Jefferson,
and he's going to be right at the sticks.
This is third or sixth or seventh.
And then you're going to have T.J. Hawkinson.
He's going to run the intermediate out-breaking route.
And then you've got K.J. Osborne, who's going to run the deep version of it.
Now, as a deep third defender, once again, you've got to be deep as the deepest in your third.
You've got to post safe.
There's going to be a middle.
And then this curl flat defender, it's tough on him because you're going to have 18 public enemy number one right at the sticks.
So that's always going to draw your body, your eyes.
Run it back real quick.
This is just a little coaching point here that I used to get coached on.
And if you want, if you got this bunch this tight inside the numbers, don't really worry about a reroute.
Same thing if you're a corner and cover too because by formation by position they've kind of rerouted themselves
with that alignment and once you get caught up in that traffic you kind of lose um you kind of
almost lose where you're at on the field so if he sinks back and kind of opens his hip gets that
kind of how miles brian was early on that last play okay that's kind of where he should be so
he's out here and that way this isn't so butt naked to where this corner comes up on him.
But it's a tough route.
It's a great route concept.
Once again, on third and seven.
So, Justin Jefferson running around the sticks, being a low one.
And now you can see the trouble right here.
Kirk Cousins standing there taking a hit.
Kirk Cousins has been making – he's going to have to obviously make some
great throws taking hits.
But his line banged up like it was.
Damn.
But great read, great play design, the great execution um from the vikings that's a great play
design right yeah like nothing you they're going to get the first down exactly exactly the best
way to play that if you go back to the wild copy real quick the best way to play is for this curl
flat defender to just get depth and width right and when you're a zone defender width is also your
front width kind of equals depth at some point so you get wide enough so you can see the routes
developing and another rule of thumb as a flat defender if you see one in front of you nine times
out of ten one is behind you so the only thing is you'll have to play this top down like you said
Justin Jefferson if he if this flat defender goes back Kirk Cousins' ball is almost out of his hands at this point.
Hey, we take the first down.
Once he comes up, now it's all about what that cornerback does.
And if the corner goes back with the deepest,
then T.J. Hockinson is going to be wide open for a 20-something yard,
potentially more with a catch and run.
But the corner, you've got to be as deep as the deepest.
Does he just think Osborne's going post?
Who's that?
The cover three corner.
He's too tight, too.
He's too tight, too.
He should be wider as well because once he gets open up,
because once everything's in there, you've got to just keep getting depth,
keep getting deep.
So it's not – KJ, yeah, he's got to see him.
And KJ saw it immediately.
Once he saw that corner come off with TJ.J., hey, throw his hand up.
And a good ball from Kurt, too.
You've shown bunches before where they're jamming.
Do you not jam on a bunch when it's that wide,
or is it because of the distance?
When that's condensed and it's a bunch, I'm not a fan of bunch.
Unless you're just in there, you've got to go straight back.
But if you have to get width – like if you're like a hook curl
defender and a cover two where you're just trying to aj has talked about this before you're just
trying to fuck up the spacing but you're going straight back if you have to get with once you
try to jam it's too hard to jam and then get with you know what i mean it's just too tough
um on your body and you get you can get caught up real quick you don't know if you only jam the
point too though like you normally jam the point so he know if you're going to set it. You only jam the point, too, though. Yeah. Like, you normally only jam the point.
So, if you're the curl flat, you're not going to jam the point
because it already gets you out level.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Yeah, so he's got to go there, and he's got to go there.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's got to get it.
Just force a really tough throw.
That's the only thing you can hope for here if you're on defense.
You've got to be back and just, hey, if you throw it perfect, you got us here.
Yeah.
You definitely can't get that one up.
Kirk Cousins slinging it.
Yeah.
Because if you think about it all, Justin Jefferson, third and seven,
Kirk Cousins, it makes sense why you'd want to jump the shorter ones.
Kirk says, nah, I'm going to eyeball this whole thing.
I'm going to drop one in the bucket from 40 yards out.
This is a new Kirk Cousins boy.
Hell, yeah.
This is a new Kirk Cousins.
They got Dayball ripping cigs, drinking beers.
And Wink doing the same thing.
Fresh defensive line, too.
Taking on Harry Styles again.
Yep.
That's right.
Revenge game.
Joe Burrow.
Pause it real quick.
Yeah, this is awesome.
Yeah, right now, Joe Burrow's looking up top,
and this is rookie Kyle Hamilton in the slot right now.
His name is rookie Kyle Hamilton in the slot right now. His name is rookie Kyle Hamilton.
Lined up across the tile of board.
And safety's up top, communicating with the cornerback.
But Burrow sees he smells blitz, right?
You got five guys lined up here.
You got one coming out.
So he's smelling blitz.
So he's going to check.
This is third and four, I believe.
Hayden Hurst, he takes him off the
line of scrimmage kind of puts him back in what we used to call a c area um so which is much more
of a protection set right so you put him back almost like a max protection set baltimore they're
known for exotics sees that and then once he comes so right when that safety is stacked over this
nickel that's a huge telltale sign, especially with this nickel just staring
at the quarterback. Obviously, he's a young player,
so he's saying, all right, I'm going to line him up. I'm going to have to
beat this running back. Joe Burrow's looking
at him. He goes alert, alert. He brings
Hayden Hurst back for protection, and
then once he knows Jamar Chase is
going to be one-on-one, that's
his go-to guy since LSU. He's going to
take that every time. So right now, he sees it.
All right.
Hold on.
Hayden, what's the number?
Here we go.
Whatever it is, alert, alert.
Back up.
TJ echoes it to him.
Tight end comes off.
They pick up the blitz.
Joe wasn't even thinking.
One-on-one.
I'm throwing it up to my guy every time.
And then you look at, all right, who's the corner?
That's not Marlon Humphrey.
That's not Peters.
I believe they're morally out there one-on-one.
But most corners are getting beat one-on-one in that situation with Jamar Chase out there.
So you see the alert, boom.
Joe Burrow said in a press conference, he said, I'm kind of old school.
If I see Jamar one-on-one, I'm going to throw it to my guy every single time.
I don't care what it is.
He knows he's one-on-one.
There's no thought at all.
No thought.
Boom.
Gone.
If you run back real quick from a tight, AJ,
I don't know how you feel about this,
but I used to absolutely hate this.
From the wide, I'm sorry.
Hate this as a DB.
You can just let it play through.
Like, you're sending these guys, and some of them kind of,
I forgot what you used to call it, coffee house or whatever, where you come in showing like you're sending these guys and some of them kind of um i forgot what you just call it coffee house or whatever when you come in showing like you're blitzing and then you got
these guys in fucking no man's land so i feel like if they actually rush all these guys pause it so
now these guys are like faking out trying to pick up lockers and they get out late but then they end
up here not helping any like that's not helping me a corner that's not helping me one-on-one in the
slot like what the fuck y'all doing right here?
A lot of coaches do that.
I'm not a big fan of it.
Please, just please stop doing it, especially with D-line, man. Like, let them run after the corner.
You heard Coach Prime yesterday.
Let them hunt.
Let them hunt.
Like, I don't – come on, man.
I don't need the big fellas out here wasting space.
Especially on the 30.
Especially on the 30 going in.
Like, that's something you do in the red zone.
They hope they can get in the passing line
and tip the ball or get a cheap kick or something.
Also, at the first down there, you get any of these
guys sucked up, you got to drag around.
You want to be sucking up the line.
Maybe they were anticipating
some low crossing routes or something with this play
call. But yeah, give me
some help out there, cuz. He's pretty
unstoppable. Can't have a number
41 on Jamar Chase.
Whoa!
Can't do it.
You know who used to wear 41, actually?
Who's that?
Miles Bryant.
The fucker that wore his 27 now.
For the reason he changed his number.
Yeah, because he wanted to look worse in a better number.
What's your problem?
He wasn't bad as 41.
You're the guy I break.
You guys live in Long Island, aren't you?
He's in zone.
He's covering John Brown, who hasn't played all year.
He's still all by himself.
He's all by himself.
It's just him and his helmet.
That's right.
All by himself next year.
You can pause it right here.
Big tight end set, 13 personnel, under center.
And on defense, we're going to have a cover, too.
So you're going to have flat, deep half, deep half, flat.
Now, what they're going to do is kind of like a fly motion and they're going to send Watson on
like a fade route basically, a real route. Now typically if this route came from anyone
else, two or three, that flat defender will be responsible for carrying out there. You're
always responsible for your wheel route. But when it comes from number one, that's on that
deep half safety. And this deep half safety i
believe this is another rookie i think this is a more tcu safety and pre-snap you'll see it'll be
real subtle and quick uh harman gives him a late kind of shove call and what that tells him is
after this motion goes i only got travis kelsey back here so you'll see it uh kind of once 84
probably gets about right here you'll see it kind of once 84 probably gets about right here.
You'll see it better from the tight copy, but he's going to tell him, shove, shove.
And that's basically saying, I got Travis Kelsey here.
So as this deep half safety, it's a good chance that I'll be able to shove your way and give you some help, right?
So right now, boom, pause it.
So now Travis Kelsey is running across, so no more deep threats over here.
So now 30, Harmon is looking for work from the other side which he picks him up but right now you got a flat corner who's not carrying that
because he anticipates a deep half safety to take him and you got a deep half safety that's still
caught up on this route that's actually going to be taking care of from the backside safety so
mahomes picks it up this play was designed for this coverage and throws a dot so that's just
the corner so on tv this will look like the corner just got ran by like oh my god this corner sucks picks it up. This play was designed for this coverage and throws a dot. So that's just a corner.
So on TV, this will look like the corner just got ran by.
Like, oh, my God, this corner sucks.
Watson just ran by him.
But in all reality, you'll see a subtle, hey, shove, shove.
And this is something that maybe should have been yelled at a little more,
especially with a younger guy.
Hey, alert the shove, alert the shove before the motion even goes.
Alert the shove, but he gives it to him late.
He does it.
He executed it.
But once again, as a defense,
we always talk about a quiet defense being a dead
defense. Make sure it's heard.
Non-verbal, verbal communication,
but a great play design, a great ball
from... He's on the 23-yard line.
Seed.
That's a 35.
That was their second play of the game.
42 yards.
42 yards on a dime?
That's all she wrote.
Yeah.
Once again, looks horrible on the corner, but that's really on the safety, in my opinion.
T, but the throw.
The throw.
The throw was unbelievable.
But that's, I mean, that's Mahal.
On a line.
He's catching that on a line.
Like, that ball's hitting somebody in the sideline still.
Unbelievable.
That's Tyree Hill.
That's a touchdown last year.
Yeah, but still them losing Tyree Hill.
Yeah, we'll just get this guy, Justin Watson.
He used to work at Wendy's, and we'll make him unbelievable.
Yeah, we'll put him on a little Arena League run.
Simple.
Get him in full speed motion.
You can run, right?
Yeah, well, not really from like the start.
I need a little bit of time.
Oh, sweet.
We'll just have you run.
Is 53 yards enough?
Yeah.
All right, we'll have you run 53 yards across,
and then fucking you'll be full speed,
and we'll just turn it.
The Arena League's been doing it.
Watch Canadian Football League and Arena League.
We're just going to do that with you.
Yeah.
Okay?
Oh, wait, you were playing in the Canadian Football League.
So you know exactly what I'm talking about.
Just fucking full speed, you'll beat everybody
because they're just standing still.
You're good.
Who did it the other night?
Georgia?
No.
Georgia, yeah.
Yeah, Georgia did that.
Georgia on TCU.
And it looked bad on Hodges Tomlinson, the corner out there.
It's like, hey, what the hell are you doing?
But once again, he expected that deep half safety to still beat him.
But I mean, that was fucking Lisa.
They're worries.
Rolling start is tough.
Yeah, it's tough.
It's tough.
Mahomes is the oldest quarterback in the AFC in the playoffs.
That's all we've been saying about him.
His old-ass things just started really taking advantage of the opportunity.
His window might be closing.
His window is his whole career, too.
He's a monster.
Up top, Kendall Fuller. He's strong.
Third and six, I believe, on this play.
Dak Prescott making a throw to an out.
Risky, right?
Opposite hash, throwing it out.
This corner's been around for a while.
Anticipates the break at the sticks.
Could have had a pick early.
Maybe the play before this, maybe, but he fell down on it.
Didn't fall on this one.
Great anticipation.
Great break.
Right at the sticks.
Tack.
This has been his big problem this season with these turnovers.
I think he's looking at CD, so he does a little bit of a look off.
Not enough, though, right?
You'll see it from the tight copy.
He does like a typical look straight, go right.
And this is nine times out of ten.
I think that's maybe a deep third corner.
I'm not sure because these safeties kind of doing it. I'm not sure exactly what they're doing. But this is a pitch and catch a lot of ten, I think that's maybe a deep third corner. Not sure because these safeties kind of doing it.
I'm not sure exactly what they're doing.
But this is a pitch and catch a lot of times,
but this is opposite hash, veteran corner.
That's a great – and the ball is behind the receiver too.
They're playing Tampa right here?
Is he sitting in cover two?
If you go –
Look at this middle reader.
I feel like he's trying to get deep.
This is like a middle reader.
And then you've got two hook droppers here.
Yeah, and this dude is kind of...
I'm not sure. That's the only guy that doesn't
make it look like Tampa. It could definitely be
too front side.
Not sure what they're doing back side. Either way, that corner could not believe
this ball came out. He's sitting on it the whole
time. And it's behind him.
They literally had eyes on it.
Yeah. It's sticks, man.
You're going to break the sticks. It's the ball
we saw in the Peach
Bowl a couple times that C.J. Stroud threw to Harrison like, hey, if I hit him, It's the ball we saw in the Peach Bowl
a couple times that C.J. Stroud
threw to Harrison like, hey, if I hit him, I hit him.
If I don't, it's going out of bounds.
So, yeah, Max Duggan right before the half.
Dak has, what,
the most picks in the league and he missed like five, six games.
Is there any thought that he
might not be the guy or is it too late?
Oh!
Look there, what, undefeated with Cooper Cush
and he wasn't, you know, throwing picks.
It's got to be questions.
I mean, at this point, it's got to be questions.
He throws a lot of picks.
A lot of picks.
Seven consecutive games?
Yeah.
That one was kind of a handoff.
Yeah.
It's a Matt Shaw bout.
What happened?
He forgot?
And he could have thrown another pick.
It might have been that same drive, same corner, and the corner just fell, and it went right back to him.
What'd he do?
Does he just forget what football is or what?
I don't know.
Call him he's killing cowboys.
It's not my America.
No, sir.
Nuh-uh.
Trey White.
Drew Davies White, man.
This is textbook.
Clinic take.
Back shoulder fade from Mack Jones throwing to Nelson Aguilar.
So this is, you know, obviously we've been seeing.
Puts it on his front shoulder.
Yeah.
I mean, this won't get touched, but this is a beautiful ball, right?
Pause it right here.
Run it back a little bit.
If you pause it kind of around this 10-yard line.
Like, if you're a corner, this is exactly how you want to play this.
You're in phase.
So you've been on top.
You're anticipating a back shoulder throw here.
And eyes right back to the quarterback.
So he tracks it the whole time, using his hands to kind of fill him out.
The refs aren't going to call that, especially if you're looking back for the ball.
It's incidental contact.
If you want to just run this rep back one more time,
because this is like a stay square at the line of scrimmage.
Identifies the route.
And this Trey White, he got thrown in there late.
Obviously, big-time injury last year,
but he was a top-tier corner,
and he's right back in the form, right going into the playoff.
Vision back, I mean, perfect.
And then, you know, the ball's obviously not great.
He probably tried to throw it over the shoulder.
What's your deal today?
Why'd you do this to me?
Patriots got the stinkin' looks.
What's the fucking deal, D-Buck?
You've never done this with one team before.
Is that a bad scheme?
Is it a bad scheme, this play with Matt Patricia?
You just throw that one away.
If you got a corner in that position, unless that's Jamar Chase or, you know,
Justin Jefferson, one of these top, like, 50-50 ball,
that's one of those you just throw away.
Stop the left.
I don't understand, though.
Why'd you put two bad plays from the same team on here?
You never bury teams like this.
I bury them.
Oh, okay.
Those were great plays by two great players.
Josh Allen, Trey White.
Yeah, he's putting people over.
No, he's not.
Now I know why he said let's get through this.
Good plays.
Let's get two big.
He said let's get through this because he wanted to get to the end
to watch both Patriots play.
That's what I mean.
Now I know what he's talking about.
He buried the Steelers earlier with A.J. Brown.
Did he do two plays, though?
Jalen Ramsey was on here like four or five times.
Yeah, but one bad from the offense and one bad from the defense.
He's burying the whole team.
You guys need to see it.
I don't need to see it.
Yeah, you do.
We're on to the Shrine Bowl.
Bill Belichick will be coaching in the Shrine Bowl.
Nice.
Senior Bowl might be getting – I don't know what the Senior Bowl did.
What happened?
Something happened with the Senior Bowl.
Something not great.
The NFL is no longer focusing on the Senior Bowl.
We believe.
Early reports are stating that the Shrine Bowl will be a replacement of something else,
and then Bill Belichick and the
Patriots coaching staff will coach in the
Shrine Bowl?
What's the other one?
Senior Bowl.
In Mobile, Alabama.
I was in the Senior Bowl. Were you in the Senior Bowl, AJ?
I was not.
Oh, because you went five overall.
I was still in school. I was in class.
I was in the senior bowl and to be
honest, I had no feel to kick
on so kind of a waste of a week but
got to meet everybody. Made some great
one-handed catches on the sideline to showcase
my athleticism. Hopefully that helped
out. Kicked the kick off to me. Yeah, I did.
That was awesome. Did you take to the house?
I got 20-something. Oh, you should show
that play then. Yeah, one guy told you to never
punt a ball again. Yeah, the special teams coordinator for the Cincinnati Bengals named Darren.
He was coaching the other team.
He's a great guy.
He and I get along very well.
But he certainly said, nobody's ever been able to do both.
You're in the senior bowl to kick, not to punt.
If I were you, I would never punt a ball again.
I would just strictly kick, become the best I could be, and maybe get drafted or something.
I'm like, you got it.
I love the guy.
And then a couple months later, I got drafted to punt.
I had to learn how to punt all of a sudden because I wasn't working on it
the last two months.
Maybe he's trying to hide you.
No, they didn't draft me.
They drafted Kevin Huber, same draft class.
Could have taken me.
He said, nah, fuck that guy.
And that was a smart play.
Kevin Huber much better than me at punting and in the league a lot longer.
But, yeah, I don't know what happened between the senior bowl and the NFL.
Something happened.
There's no reason for them just to pick up and be like, well.
Actually, this is the senior bowl now.
What Reese's Pieces do, man.
That's interesting.
So who's coaching the one in Alabama now?
We don't know.
So I think the NFL team's pulled out of the senior bowl.
What?
It was always coached by NFL coaches.
Yeah.
Now the Shrine is having NFL coaches. They literally moved all
of the staff that was on the Senior Bowl
and moved them to the Shrine game.
They are pissed.
This could be as
small as somebody not getting a credential
somewhere and it happening
numerous times and like, we're not doing
it anymore. We make this whole thing.
What's the deal? Or
it's just like they see a better future with the Shrine game
because they might have better ownership or more ownership of it,
and they want to make it a much bigger deal.
Nick has some more information on the entire situation.
Yeah, it turns out they're alternating now.
So in 2024, the Senior Bowl will get full NFL coaching staffs.
In the meantime, this year, the East-West Shrine Bowl will get the Falcons and
the Patriots coaching staff, while the Senior
Bowl will get a staff of
quote-unquote nominated coaches.
I don't know who's doing the nominations.
What if Arch Staples and Capoli
are coaching? Something happened with the Senior Bowl.
Where is the Shrine Bowl?
Anybody know?
Somewhere nice, I think. Arizona?
Texas? Texas?
Arizona.
Florida?
The Shrine Bowl.
I'll tell you what.
When they start shrining.
Oh, baby.
That's the time.
Got those neat hats they wear.
There was a bunch of those bowl games.
Remember the NFLPA spent $10 million on one?
Do you remember they opened their budget?
Yeah, they have that.
They opened their budget for the first time, and said we're doing uh nflpa pro bowl or
senior bowl game collegiate bowl because we think with tv contracts it'll make money and i remember
sitting in there going don't take any of my fucking money to make an f league all-star game okay
there's already too many all-star games yeah there's only one all-star game that does anything
and it's senior bowl now the NFL says, no food for you.
We are going to the Shrine Bowl for a year.
That's crazy.
There's four games on NFL Network.
It's the NFLPA Collegiate Bowl, East West Shrine,
Reese's Senior Bowl, and then the HBCU Legacy Bowl.
The Collegiate Bowl is still happening?
The NFLPA one?
Yeah.
Yikes.
I would never guess it would make $0.
What's that?
At least last year it did
Alright well good luck to all the people that are shrining
Hope you make it to the league
Shrine on
Good luck
It's an extended combine basically
With those coaches there
They're putting them through a practice
Workouts
Everything's filmed
Getting sent everywhere
There's a lot of meetings
One on one meetings happening there
Senior Bowl
I'll be excited to hear what happens
At some point, right?
Oh, yeah.
I don't know about that.
Oh, yeah.
Because they had that thing, Monopoly.
Oh, yeah.
They had it locked down, locked in.
This is the game to go to.
You get invited, congratulations.
Go to the fucking Senior Bowl.
Tron Bowl is going to be in Vegas.
Las Vegas.
Turn your shrine on.
That's where the Pro Bowl is as well.
Yeah. Get your shrine on. That's where the Pro Bowl is as well. Yeah.
Get your shrine on.
Zeta.
Zeta.
Hell yeah, turn it on.
Flag football game in the Pro Bowl this year, right?
Three of them.
Yeah.
It's going to be sweet.
Check that one out.
It's actually called the Pro Bowl Games.
Like the Olympic gums?
I really wish they'd bring back the old shit.
Oh, yeah.
You have to pay people.
They bring it back.
Fastest Man.
Longest Throw.
They could get Longest Drive.
Yeah, Topgolf.
That'd be dope.
Does their sim break as much as ours?
Probably not.
Does any sim break as much as ours?
I think it was a shitty one.
What? Bruce, is that what ours? They gave us a shitty one. What?
Bruce, is that what happened?
Who did?
Did we get 11?
Branovich.
We can reach out to customer support.
There are more issues over there.
Oh, we have to go to customer support?
It's every time.
It breaks every time we play.
We have to reset the goddamn thing after every shot you take.
Is that what it's supposed to be?
The thing freezes up top where it doesn't recognize the ball.
Every time.
Every round.
Four holes in.
Dead.
Got to restart the whole thing.
Brutal.
It is brutal.
We've got a golf simulator.
Can't golf.
What's the point?
So we don't have one.
We have a room with turf up there.
Yeah.
Four walls.
Can't do anything
because it's not big enough
to do anything else in it.
How's the dodgeball game?
Pretty sweet.
Pretty sweet. But just like the golf, you'll start throwing dodgeballs and zombies won't
die because they won't register then you're dead so you're not playing dodgeball anymore you're
just getting attacked by zombies staying in a room with no zombies it's a whole thing
anyway shout out to our golf sim ain't that right aj yep that's right i want to play that zombie
game sounds good no you want to play until the balls aren't registered, and then you got ten zombies fucking at your neck, dude.
Eating your face off.
Scary.
They bit off Ty's dick.
They did.
Oh, no.
Ty can't go up there.
Well, you know, they always go for the genitals first.
You know that.
They stuff them in your mouth.
Zombies?
That's your move.
Here's another jet sweep.
That's not my move.
That's just a classic disrespect move.
If you want someone, you know, hey, let your parents find you with your dong in your mouth, pal.
With your dong in your mouth, right?
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
We've talked about that, the ultimate disrespect.
What do you got, D-Butt?
What's on this play?
We got a little motion I see.
We got the jet motion similar to the Chiefs play.
He's coming across, but he's actually going to run a deep route.
This corner, right?
He's going to run the deep hook.
This corner, once again, deep third again.
This corner gets sucked up by this deep curl route.
So if you pause right, this is actually going to be a great play design,
hard play actually.
You got this other receiver in protection.
He checks in protection and checks out.
Deep third, deep post you'll see let it develop develop a little bit pause boom so this stop
he takes the eyes of this corner and he's going to go deep seven here a deep out breaking route
and quandary digs once again i think he was on a might have been on the plays last week as well
making a great break out of the post.
Three-time Pro Bowler now as a free safety.
So right now, you pause it.
Yeah, yeah.
This is a lot of space for Baker Mayfield to make this throw.
But you'll see where he leaves this ball.
And with a good post safety, he does what a good post safety does.
It covers ground.
It makes a great catch.
High pointed.
Pointed at his boy. Bobby Wags on the sideline.
This is an overtime.
So obviously a big time turnover
in a big time situation. I mean,
I would have tried to stay in bouncing houses.
Got him to the playoffs?
Yeah, but he had to let Bobby know.
Gotcha, Bob. He did let Bobby know.
He covered so much ground.
Yeah.
Quandre.
Still, if that ball's to the sidelines, that might be a touchdown.
Fact.
I mean, you got a lot of.
And then the Lions would be in the playoffs.
Yep.
Wow.
Great play.
Wow.
And great break out of the post.
All because of Baker Mayfield.
Yep.
What the hell, Baker?
They went down and scored. Game over. Yep. But, because Baker Mayfield. Yep. What the hell, Baker? They went down and scored.
Game over.
Yep.
But, yeah, this is –
Yep.
He covers a lot of ground.
Closing speed.
No wonder McVay wants to retire.
Like, you got to hit that.
You got to hit that with Bate.
Like, you got to hit that one.
Overtime, too.
He's high-stepping.
He didn't try at all.
63 on the back.
Jack did that.
63 was not happy.
Right here, this guy.
I don't think Bobby Wags appreciated that.
He almost blasted him.
Yeah, 63 was close.
Come here.
But, yeah, you got four blockers here.
You got one receiver.
Don't add 15.
Here you got one receiver Like
Don't add 15
Ultimate faith in
Ultimate faith in
Geno Smith
To go ahead and put it in his own
Or field goal or whatever
But
Bracelet
That's when McVay wanted to go
Yep
I'm done with this shit
I think Diggs said
Retire bitch
And then
When he heard that
Yeah I'm gonna call
Retire fucker
Chunky soup sucks.
I mean, he's real close.
Yeah.
Credit to McVeigh for not flinching.
He didn't even flinch.
Well, he took a shoulder pad right there.
He probably wanted him.
Probably told him, hey, knock me out, please.
Is there a dog in here?
A German Shepherd in here?
What happened?
What the hell was that?
Could be a goose.
Dog screeching.
I don't know.
Anyways, great everything DB.
There was a dog barking in the building.
Let it be D-Bone.
Let it be D-Bone.
Chuck.
Bless you, Dirty.
Bless you, Dirty.
Dirty with a big sneeze.
Bless you, Dirty.
Hope you're okay.
That was the dog?
That was a lot of sneeze.
Dirty, hope everything's okay.
Yeah.
Get that checked out.
Dirty, let's get it checked out because we need to hit a same-game parlay this weekend
for the same-game parlay holiday, as does the toxic table in the pod, as does Hammer.
Die!
Which is in 15 minutes.
And that's Hockey Talk, which is on tonight at 8 p.m. Eastern Standard Time,
youtube.com forward slash that's Hockey Talk.
Great plug.
D-Bud is on the Pat McAfee Show team for the same-game parlay.
Let's go.
Bullshit.
Let's go.
That is bullshit.
We're all just trying to hit.
Yeah, exactly.
So we should be on all of our teams.
We're all going to hit.
We're all going to hit.
I feel great about mine, okay?
Yours?
We are good.
But D-Butt should be able to be on all teams.
Sorry, I got drafted.
Thank you for your help, D-Butt.
Can't wait.
Thank you.
Yeah, we got Bill.
Yeah, Bill has put together a couple great
Great parlays
They say if you got baloney
Happening, call Bill
And you say there's baloney happening
You called Bill
That's what we got going on
He's going to bop it to death and we're going to win
Just like that autopilot Tesla guy
Hopefully everybody's safe there
AJ, great show today, Talks to the Table, great work
Telling great work, Everybody behind the glass,
thank you so much.
D-Butt, appreciate you, buddy.
We'll see you tomorrow
as we will see Chuck Pagano as well as we inch
one day closer to this
super wildcard weekend
and the NFL playoffs kicking off. We can't thank you
all enough. Hammer,
9-15. We'll see you tomorrow. Be a friend,
tell a friend. Goodbye. Oh, 9 to 15. We'll see you tomorrow. Be a friend. Tell a friend. Goodbye.
Oh, for TikTok.
For TikTok.
First day on TikTok.
What's going on, dude?
We have no idea if being on longer is better for TikTok.
Yeah, who knows?
But, like, AJ said that he was going to learn the dance of the day and sign off the show with it.
So now is the time to do that for TikTok.
Come on, AJ. Bring us home. Come on, AJ. Bring us home, AJ.
AJ, come on.
Come on.
For TikTok.
AJ, what do you say?
AJ.
Why don't you do a little dance?
Why don't you do a little prance? Come on, AJ, what do you say, AJ? Why don't you do a little dance? Why don't you do a little prance?
What?
Come on, AJ.
What do you say?
Why don't you get on that 75 what?
75 people?
A million.
That's awesome.
75 people on TikTok.
This was 75 people, right?
Come on, AJ.
80 people on TikTok.
Here we go.
75 million?
Dab.
No, I think it's 7.5 tens.
Okay.
What do you guys want me to do?
What should I do?
Dance.
The TikTok dance.
Do the Soulja Boy.
What an asshole.
Oh, man.
Don't give in to peer pressure, kids.
That was a good lesson.
Thank you for that, AJ.
We'll see you guys tomorrow.