The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 835 - Kirk Herbstreit, Everything DB With Darius Butler LIVE From The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk
Episode Date: January 18, 2023On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about the fallout from Aaron Rodgers’ comments yesterday on the show, if they think he’ll be back with the Packers next year, what... it means for the Packers moving forward, and they dive into the Divisional Round of the playoffs and some of the matchups. Joining the progrum to chat about the NFL playoffs as a whole and his first season on the call in the booth for Thursday Night Football on Prime is the face and voice of College Football, color commentator for Thursday Night Football, and friend of the show, Kirk Herbstreit (19:28-53:08). Later, 9 year NFL veteran at defensive back, Darius Butler joins the show for Everything DB where he breaks down the best and worst DB plays from Super Wildcard Weekend (2:00:14-2:32:53). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hello, beautiful people.
Welcome to our humble abode, the Fandle Thunderdome.
On this winter Wednesday, January 18th, 2023, the show starts, and now...
Football!
It's got four weekends left.
Shit.
Football is the sport that we love, the sport that we dedicate a large portion of our lives to,
the sport that has really kept this entire business going
through these last five years.
We have four more weekends to enjoy the hell
out of the greatest athletes on earth,
playing the greatest sport on earth,
for the greatest trophy in sports.
Four weekends left before we see
who will be crowned the next Super Bowl champion. Will the Cincinnati Bengals be able to
get back to the Super Bowl and this time win in triumph and not have the best moment be when the
Rock was cutting a promo before the game even kicked off? How about the Buffalo Bills? One year
removed from an overtime situation that almost changed the entire game forever
because Josh Allen wasn't able to get back on the field and answer Patrick Mahomes.
Let's see if he can win another Super Bowl.
They're being chatted about as a dynasty because of how good they have been.
They've already won one.
Will they be able to win another and another and cement three or four in a seven-year period?
It could happen this year.
The road to a dynasty could take place with the Kansas City Chiefs.
And how about the Jacksonville Jaguars?
Wow.
On the AFC side, going into the year with the first pick overall,
not for the first year in a row.
No, no, two years in a row with the first pick overall.
Now they're sitting in the divisional round,
staring down Patrick Mahomes and the boys.
Could Doug Peterson cement his legacy as one of the greatest coaches of all time
and have the Jags make it all the way to the Super Bowl to face a team out of the NFC
that could be one of four?
Could it be the New York football giants who have been in disarray and upside down
since the Eli days when they were making magical plays against the New England Patriots.
Remember, the owner of the Giants
was on the record of stating
that he was sick of hanging out
with his billionaire friends
explaining why his team fucking stunk.
He invested multiple times.
They finally found something
with Dayball and Wink.
And Kafka, who's the offensive coordinator,
has found something with Danny Dimes
and Shaquan Barkley, who have the offensive coordinator, who has found something with Danny Dimes and Saquon Barkley,
who have earned themselves millions and millions of dollars
going into their free agency period for the first time.
How about the Dallas Cowboys, also members of the NFC East?
We're talking about a team that has been hyped to be in this position
for the last 20 years but hasn't.
There is videos and pictures of Michael Irvin and Troyroy acheman celebrating because that was the last time they
had accomplished what they just accomplished in tampa bay a few days ago can dac prescott
who was just a couple weeks ago being talked about as being a bust and maybe being replaced
by a guy named cooper fucking kush can he lead his team to the Super Bowl. They got a tough road, don't they? San Francisco 49ers who have every single position that has a player that's at the top of the fucking game.
Christian McCaffrey gets traded to that squad midway through the season.
They get better.
He becomes their prominent role on the offensive side of the ball.
Didn't make the Pro Bowl.
That's because he has a team around him that is fantastic.
George Kittle, Deebo, IU.
And you go to the defensive side of the ball,
and you got Nick Bosa, who's this big, handsome, strapping lad
who talks exactly like his brother talks,
but gets to a quarterback unlike anybody else in the fucking league.
They got Trent Williams at offensive line.
They got Fred Warner flying around.
And then they got baby Paul Amalo at safety.
But Brock Purdy, Mr. Irrelevant, their quarterback,
has stepped into the men's league, into the adult league,
out of Iowa State, straight into a fucking position
in which people are saying he is the X factor
for why the Niners are so good.
The entire team is behind him.
He's making all the right plays.
And he has accuracy that he's had his entire life.
So much so that he actually had to say, hey, Saban doesn't know ball.
Because Saban said he didn't have accuracy coming out of high school.
This guy can pull in a keyhole.
And in Shanahan's offense, he's been able to do as such.
Are they going to make a run and win a Super Bowl?
And just a few years back back they were one deep ball away
from not only having
their franchise quarterback forever,
but having a Super Bowl
in the Shanahan era.
And then the Philadelphia fucking Eagles.
Here we go.
A team filled with
DOGS
coached by an Italian
DOG
seemingly unstoppable,
have recreated football with the way they do the quarterback dive
because their center is the greatest of all time at it.
Jason Kelsey, obviously out of Cleveland, more athletic than you are.
He's their center.
He's their heartbeat.
He's their soul.
And they have an offensive line that's great.
They sing well, too.
Have a fucking album that they released over Christmas.
They have weapons on the outside, traded for one on draft night that actually got a GM fired this
year from Tennessee Titans because of how great he has fit in alongside a Heisman winner that is
also a weapon. Defense has got dogs all over the field, and they continue to sign and bring in more
people that are great at football. Their special teams are very, very, very solid.
And their quarterback squats like fucking 900 pounds.
Their quarterback going into the season was questioning whether or not he could be a guy.
He's a fucking MVP all of a sudden.
For sure.
Philadelphia Eagles have been tough to beat.
Will they run all the way to Phoenix, Arizona and hoist Lambeau as the confetti falls.
We shall see.
Only four more weeks until we find out.
We'll be here every step of the way.
Then we're going to take a two-week vacation.
The Talks at Table is here at Boston.
Connor at Ty Schmidt.
Connor, I just ran through the entire situation, basically,
for all the teams and how we see them and how I see it.
Who's a surprise, maybe, you think?
What's a surprise maybe you think?
What's a surprise?
Who could potentially come and be the Cincinnati Bengals?
The team that won on the road last year against Tennessee,
then won on the road against Kansas City Chiefs,
then go to the Super Bowl and they want Aaron Donald shove away from maybe winning that thing.
Who could potentially go from four and five or four and something,
12, one, five, you get it.
Yeah, sure.
To Super Bowl run, to we're back.
Who could potentially do that?
Is it the Jacksonville fucking Jaguars?
I would like to say it's the Jags.
I just think it's too hard with Mahomes and all they have with the Chiefs.
I don't know if this is the same situation,
but I do feel as if the Dallas Cowboys,
if Dak plays like he just played against the Bucs.
On the road against Tom.
On the road against Tom.
On the road against the fucking Niners team.
It could be very similar to the Cincinnati situation.
Exactly.
When Dak's playing that well, they really are very, very hard to play against,
especially when you're talking about Schultz, Gallup, CeeDee Lamb.
They add T.Y. Hilton.
We're a big Zeke, Tony.
You need weapons, and they have T.Y. Hilton. We're a big... Zeke, Tony. Zeke, Tony. You need weapons, and they have
all of them. They really can beat
you in any way with the studs on
defense because if the Cowboys get
up and then you have Micah Parsons
rushing the passer when the other team's got to just
try and sling the rock to get back in the game.
That's a pretty devastating combo.
Diggs, obviously, on the outside,
very opportunistic. Maybe a pick.
He didn't really do much in the last game aside from shut down,
whoever the hell he was covering.
So I feel like the Cowboys might be that team.
But then again, we are talking about the Dallas Cowboys.
And what do they do?
They fuck it up every single year.
And we love the Niners here.
And we think they are another team that not really like the Bengals
because, you know, since, what, week 10?
It's kind of been the story about them.
Start out rough, though.
They did.
Worked great early.
Nobody could have seen the Niners like this in the dominating fashion that they have been.
Almost number one seed would have been able to get it towards the end of the season.
I like the Cowboys a lot.
That NFC seems to be where maybe somebody could go and run.
And it's because the AFC is just so tough.
I mean, we have four teams left, so everybody's fucking good.
But the AFC for, like, the next 20 years.
And I think this is a conversation we should have,
young quarterbacks.
Yeah.
Everywhere.
All over.
We're in a new chapter, Ty.
And yesterday after Aaron Rodgers' Tuesday,
are you in a new chapter?
Ooh.
Are you?
Is everything okay, Ty?
Oh, no.
I'm fine.
Great haircut.
Hey, great haircut.
Wow.
Long overdue.
My hair fucking stunk.
And after I took my John Deere hat off yesterday,
my head hurt so bad because it was just a mess.
So I said, you know what?
Need to get a haircut today.
But that's neither here nor there.
Atta baby, JC.
Atta baby, JC.
Atta baby, JC.
Back porch barber.
Atta baby.
We were talking a little bit last night, texting.
I still think Rodgers is going to be back with the Packers.
I mean, this isn't, you know, new hat.
This is kind of what we've come to expect the last couple off seasons.
Well, this is why everybody's pissed, right?
Exactly, exactly.
This guy every year saying things.
That's what everybody's saying to me.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
And saying about Aaron.
Yeah, exactly.
And I don't give a shit.
And, yeah, maybe, like, I'm a little biased because we are closer to it
because the Packers are my favorite team.
He's the quarterback.
I love him as a football player.
He's one of my favorite athletes.
And I've just so happened to have the opportunity through you
and through this show to get to fucking talk to him every single week
for the last three years.
You put a performance on down in the Bahamas, made him feel comfortable,
and maybe agreed to Aaron Rodgers, too.
Yeah, maybe.
Maybe.
Yeah, I think you should feel like you are.
Yeah, you should.
I mean, but again, you know, like that's – so, yeah, am I crazy
and do a lot of fans maybe come at you and come at me for kind of backing him
and say like – because that is no bullshit when I told him yesterday.
Like, would I like to see him be the Packers quarterback
until he's like 42 and retires?
Absolutely.
And now everyone's saying, obviously, this morning, hey, fuck it, rip the Band-Aid off.
We're sick and tired of this guy.
Get rid of him.
See what you have in Jordan Love.
I would say they were probably more likely to do that if they would have made it.
They missed the playoffs.
And I'll speak for me as a fan.
I'm not doing that again next year, okay?
We're not doing that again next year.
I'm not watching a fucking team go 8-9 or 7-10 next year.
So, Ty, this is a problem with some fan bases.
Absolutely.
And the culture, we're currently experiencing it as well.
Right.
You go from quarterback that wears jeans and slings the ball around.
Yeah.
Long time.
Yeah.
Great throw of the football.
Who also.
Hall of Famer.
Was an actor in a couple movies.
Yeah.
Inspired a generation.
This is a movie that's happening right now.
And everybody will learn it.
I said I'm going to address it last Wednesday.
Right.
Can't. Can't. At this point, we can't. Yeah, you'll all, everybody will learn it. I said I'm going to address it last Wednesday. Right. Can't.
Can't.
At this point we can't.
Yeah,
you can't.
We will though.
There'll be a time.
There will be a time.
No,
we'll jot this one down.
January 18th,
2023,
12,
13 on that clock.
12,
13 on that clock as well.
Oh,
weird.
This will be a part of it and whenever we run it everybody will understand this is a part of it clip it it's hilarious this is one of the most hysterical things that i've ever as somebody that
views life as a movie this is one that is a hilarious situation just to find yourself in
oh yeah kind of one of those things
where you never think it'll happen but then you kind of realize like oh yeah a lot of people do
watch the show you know and we're not just bullshitting and talking with each other it may
feel that way because we're on a small stage up here but word does travel fast it does yeah and
to be clear not worried about nothing no no not worried about nothing. But it would be dumb to talk about right now.
Absolutely.
Because we don't have the full story.
Just know, said promo that will be coming will be one of the –
It will have its day.
It will.
Yeah.
Anyways, you guys go from two quarterbacks that have been the quarterback of the team for a long time.
A lot of success.
Yep.
Not a lot of sucking.
Okay?
The Colts are kind of going through this right now with all the turnover
and not making the playoffs two years in a row and sucking and everything like that.
Not making the playoffs almost might be the reason why Aaron was believing
that the Green Bay Packers might not want to, now might be the time to kind of do it,
kind of get it all in at one time.
Because if Aaron was told, and Gutekun said we're not at that point yet
whenever he was asked if he would address Aaron and tell him that it was time to move on or whatever,
and he said we're not at that point the other day, right?
Yeah, correct.
So did he mean we're not at that point yet?
Like we've got to go through a film and figure out what our plans are
and brainstorm and see what our future is because we've been in the season.
Now it's time for us to kind of figure out what the future is.
And is that what he told Aaron?
Is that why Aaron has the feeling to say, like, hey, it's a two-way street?
Because I think that has continued to be the same story.
It's like, hey, them and, like, this is a two-way relationship.
Aaron still has to figure out whether or not he wants to play.
And the people that don't understand that,
I don't think you fully comprehend what it's –
just listen to what steve young tom
brady basically any quarterback that's up there in the upper uh pantheon pantheon pantheon is a
little tighter than echelon uh yeah for sure pantheon is the you know the great of the greats
okay so let's talk about that just listen to all those pantheon quarterback people speak about
leaving the game and what the commitment is to the game.
I mean, there's a full public divorce that just took place that we all watched happen.
And obviously Tom Brady is older, 45 years old, and Aaron's 39.
So when you compare it to Tom, I guess he is younger.
He is younger than that guy.
There's a lot of life that has happened for a lot of people
that he has just committed to football, his entire being, basically.
39 is almost 40.
His whole life has been being a football player.
There's some people that think, like, go into the next one.
But it's a tough decision to make.
It's not easy.
So I think he has to make that.
And then what if, by the time he makes that decision,
which there has to be a timeline because they're going to have to build a team,
what if they, in that same time, they told him we're going to do the same thing,
they come back to chat, decide to move. Is he getting
traded somewhere? Is he coming to the
Indianapolis Colts? That's what I heard him saying.
He doesn't want to be
part of a rebuild. At Tone Diggs, one half
of the hammer. Cowboys, you look
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because we're big fans of the man
and A.B., his co-host.
Host of everything.
Not Antonio Brown.
No, Antoine Bethea.
Okay.
Right.
That is a good station.
Just making sure.
Antoine Bethea.
Mm-hmm.
Darius J. Butler.
Yeah, D-Bud!
There you go.
D-Bud, everything you just heard there.
Yep.
And we broke down a lot.
Any big takeaways from it all?
The Aaron shit is loud, and it's always going to be loud.
This has been the Aaron experience, I think, for him his entire life,
for us the last three years.
I thought he was very transparent.
I thought he had no ill intent at all in that conversation.
Everybody's saying everything about him.
They're acting as if he was coming from a different place.
It felt like he was kind of just laying it out.
Hey, this is where I'm at right now.
This is where he's hearing the team is at too.
But this is obviously all Aaron's fault.
I felt like you guys asked good questions too.
Obviously, you, Ty, AJ asked good questions.
I feel like he gave real answers, transparent answers.
And, you know, people say, oh, they're tired of talking about it or this and that.
But he is obviously one of the greatest players in the game.
And a lot of shows are still leading off their show,
even though it's divisional weekend with the A-Rod stuff.
And, you know, he's kind of earned that, and I can understand, too,
from the Packers standpoint.
Like, all right, I'm tired of this shit, too.
But we'll take him down there, Miami.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
If you guys don't know, I saw a lot of Packers bloggers, you know,
saying, like, let's move on from Aaron Rodgers.
Let's do that.
It's like, okay, do it.
I would love for you guys to do that.
Their numbers wouldn't like it.
What's that?
If you're a Packers writer, a blogger, whatever you do in the Packers world, you lose a great quarterback. Dude, ESPN stopped coming to the Indianapolis Colts locker room
whenever Andrew got hurt.
The team didn't even exist anymore.
I'm not saying that's going to happen with the Packers
because of how beloved the fan base is and everything like that.
But let's say Jordan does take a couple years to develop, which could happen.
Jordan might drop in and be a guy.
Very possible.
Very much could drop in there and be a guy.
The Packers have a history of doing that.
Now this is an entirely new front office scouting department, coaching, everything.
Same building, though, I guess.
They've been able to have success in the turnover from quarterback to quarterback in the past.
So we can assume that the building will be able to accomplish that.
And I guess that's the equipment managers and the athletic trainers and stuff like that.
Because there's no owner.
And the new acting owner is different from whenever all that.
Right.
Oh, yeah.
So it's a whole new.
This is an entirely new operation.
For sure.
But Jordan Love might be a guy.
He might not be, though.
And if he's not being the Packers, I know you're the Packers.
And the Packers are always going to have a lot of drop out of conversation for a while, too.
The national. You're talking about business-wise. Yeah, business-wise. the Packers and the Packers are always going to have a lot of drop out of conversation for a while too. Just in the national,
as far as business wise, obviously locally and Packers, huge fan base,
you know, obviously great tradition. So there'll be all right. But as far as outside of that, the other stuff that comes with having,
and that's everybody and that's players too.
When you lose a great quarterback or a great quarterback and your team
time, time games gone. Yeah. All that shit is just done. It's real.
It gets real regular rule, you know, one o'clock kickoff time out of that.
Sorry, Connor, you're kind of experiencing that now.
And franchises.
Yeah, this is life now.
You only get two, maybe three great quarterbacks in your franchise
if you go and look at all the franchises.
So, yo, I think you'll end up right there,
which I think you'll end up going back there.
But if he doesn't, there's a lot of teams that would –
Quickly.
Miami.
Parades.
There would be places that would have – hey, Aaron, welcome to the show, baby.
And Aaron said before the last season that he wanted to finish his career
in Green Bay.
And I assume at the time Green Bay was telling him that they want him
to finish his career there too.
After this year, is that a different conversation that's taking place
between Aaron and the Packers organization?
It sounds like it if you listen to what Aaron's saying.
Unless Aaron is just like they're not saying that to him
and he's just making stuff up, which I don't know why he would do that.
Made it clear he didn't want to be a part of a rebuild.
Well, and I think a big part that I took away, at least, was those –
I mean, he singled out and mentioned certain guys by name
who their futures may kind of be in limbo with the Packers, and it's like, hey, I want my guys
that I love back next year, okay? So whatever else we need to do with the roster, like,
I want these guys who I'm very close with and comfortable with, like, I want them back next
year, and if they're not, then we might have to have a discussion about what's next.
Joining us now is a man who is a former quarterback,
obviously just an absolute legend of a Centerville elk over there in Ohio.
He's been the face of college football, I don't know, 27 years.
He doesn't know that, though.
This fucking guy has no clue
that that has happened, obviously, with the way he
acts and everything like that. This dude
is a bona fide football
rock star. He
dabbled in the NFL this past season
with the fine folks of Amazon, so now
he's in our world a little bit more, so I can't wait
to get his thoughts on this and more.
Fresh out of the
sun, I heard. the incredibly handsome kirk
herb street sir how are you how are we doing how are we doing guys you re-energize huh got the
motor started back up we feeling good how you doing yeah yeah i'm feeling good feeling good
watched a little nfl football at like 8 in the morning, which was different.
And fired up for this weekend, man.
We had some great games.
Sunday's going to be epic.
Yeah, I think so.
I mean, Sunday night, obviously, getting a chance to watch Trent Williams battle with Micah.
And then watch Cuzz for the... Tyron Smith.
Tyron Smith battle with Bosa.
That is going to be a blast.
You're going to talk about absolute
lightning potentially happening on every single snap if you like watching one-on-ones.
And the Bengals, Bills, you become pseudo-Bengals guy, right? Because you've been going to their,
you have season tickets, I think, with them because you live in Cincinnati, although
the priest from Moeller, Father McCalla from Moeller Academy thought that you just rented a fake apartment in Cincinnati
so Chase could go to school in Cincinnati, Ohio out of Nashville.
You picked up and moved there.
You have full season tickets.
Are you a Bengals guy, though?
You feel like you're a little bit of a Bengals guy, Ruth?
I don't have season tickets.
There's a guy here locally who invites me to his suite.
Oh, okay.
Even smarter than season tickets. Got it. I have season tickets. It's a guy here locally who invites me to his suite. Oh, okay. Even smarter than season tickets.
Got it.
I have season tickets.
It's a lot of money.
When I'm in town and available, I love to go over.
I'll tell you, because I lived in Nashville for 11 years,
and I'd go over to the Titans games before Braves got there.
I can't even remember who the head coaches were.
Malarkey or something?
Wizenhunt. Ken. I moved to Nashville, andarkey or something? Yeah. Wisenhunt.
Ken.
And I moved to Nashville, and I thought it was a football city and state,
and I learned it was a hockey city.
That's because the hockey at the Predators were doing good.
I mean, the Preds were on fire, and if you needed a good nap,
you'd go over to the Titans game on Sunday.
It was just a snooze fest.
I was there for a little bit.
Braves has changed that around, made it a little better,
but they just need a new stadium, which sounds like it's in the works
because that stadium's got to be the worst in the league.
Washington, Washington.
Washington and Tennessee, I think.
Oh, Washington, you would put up there too.
Poop pipes bursting on fans in the middle of games.
Ripping seat backs.
Yeah, the gate falling, almost taking Jalen Hurts' head off.
I mean, you're talking – it's bad.
Tennessee, also bad, too.
There's that big crack that goes right down like the middle of it.
It was being displayed.
You're right.
Change the atmosphere there, maybe.
And they got the yellow grass figured out down there, too.
It goes dormant like in September.
I mean, it's dreadful.
But it looks like they're getting it potentially heading in a different direction.
But Braves got at least some energy going.
But, man, Cincinnati, I think it used to be lifeless as well.
And then Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase and that whole energy of what that offense is about,
that place has now become an electric atmosphere.
I mean, that's a tough place to play now.
And you know from going there probably, all you guys that played,
that's never really been known as a hostile environment, has it, over the years?
I don't know.
So whenever like when A.J. was playing and Pac was on the Bengals
and they were playing the Steelers, remember that playoff game?
Yeah.
Or to get into the playoff. There was a couple years there when Dalton was winning like 11 games.
Yep.
Where since you could tell that Bengals, who they fans were very real, right? Because they were there all the time.
And we played them in preseason every single year. So like they were filled up.
But you're talking about an entire city just being bought in, it feels like.
Oh, it feels like that.
Yeah, because watching those games, it's like a college atmosphere almost,
it looks like, with this Bengals team.
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
And I think they were like that even before they made the run to the Super Bowl last year.
I just think there's something that's contagious about Joe Burrow and his energy
and the confidence that he played with when he was in college back in 2019 at LSU when they won it all.
And then it just continued, you know, when he became a rookie.
He had the injury that he had to deal with, but just there was never anything about, you just believe in him.
And you guys know what it's like when a team believes in a quarterback and a town feeds off of that.
There's just a belief that you can find a way to win every game you play.
And, you know, that'll really be put to the test on the road this weekend against Buffalo. Being here in Cincinnati,
you can definitely count me in. I grew up as a Bengals. I grew up in southwest Ohio.
You said it's Centerville Elk. I was always kind of a Bengals fan, even as
a kid, but they sucked for so long. It's hard to really
be out there. It's hard to really be out there.
It's kind of like being a Lions fan.
Which one of your guys is a Lions fan?
Foxy.
Oh, yeah, Kirk.
It's like, Foxy, you're a proud Lions fan,
but you're not beating on your chest about the Lions very often.
But this year, they're starting to come along a little bit, right?
Yep, spot on, Kirk.
But since Barry Sanders played there, you haven't had a whole lot to talk about. Oh, Calvin. Yep. Spot on, Kirk. But to the previous, since Barry Sanders played there,
you haven't had a whole lot to talk about.
Oh.
Oh, Calvin.
And then they stole his money.
Yeah.
I mean, there's a lot.
The only thing to talk about him was just negative stuff.
But I am pumped.
And MCDC was on Monday Night Football.
Now we're hearing news that some players on the Lions are like,
we'll take pay cuts to stay here.
Want to build something special.
So that is obviously on the horizon of all the bad programs.
There is a chance.
And I think the Bengals were one of the teams that gave everybody a thought
that they could make it because bad year, then when Joe Burrow gets hurt,
he comes back.
They go to the fucking Super Bowl, Kirk, just out of nowhere.
Now every team that's bad is like, you know what?
The Bengals were able to do it.
The Bengals were able to do it because, to your point, Joe Burrow,
he is phenomenal. Now,
let's talk about another guy because you just talked about
team and buying in and everything like that.
Aaron Rodgers. Hey,
Aaron, you obviously
you tell me you watch this show
and you bring up a lot of things from this
show, so we appreciate you watching this
show. I assume you watch Aaron Rodgers
Tuesdays with Aaron over the last three years
and have learned things about Aaron. That's a fascinating situation, isn't it? Because before Aaron Rodgers
Tuesday, he was hated by everybody, right? Pretty much. Not everybody. There's people that loved
Aaron Rodgers, obviously, but a majority of the conversation about Aaron Rodgers was never about
how good of a football player he was. It was always about him as a human. Hey, this guy.
Mystery. Kind of a mystery.
Yes. Enigma. Enigma yeah but also a lot of negative
stuff about him his personal life his relationships how like everything about him was always like kind
of this guy's a selfish everything like that because he never talked just never talked about
it just stayed away from it so now that we've done these three years with him i feel like we've
learned a lot about him this dude is like a hippie he's just a deep thinking guy i'm gonna kill him
with indifference indifference i'm to answer every single story, but it feels like
anytime a situation pops up with them, everybody goes back to the original thoughts they had about
him as opposed to what he has showcased for three years straight. Now sitting here for 45 minutes
to an hour, every single Tuesday, bearing his soul pretty much to who he is. Anytime something
pops up,
it's almost like everybody just goes back three years.
Like this is that selfish prima Donna prick.
He doesn't care about it.
It's like,
why does that happen?
You think to Kirk or to Aaron Rogers,
Kirk,
what do you think that is?
And me,
but,
but especially to Aaron,
you know,
I honestly,
I think it's,
sorry about that.
When you're the best,
whether you're a coach or you're a player and you do it not for one year, but you do it for an entire career, you're going to create a lot of enemies.
And when you throw in a little bit of a wild card with his personality until he had the platform with you, I think in the social media world that we live in, you become a target when there's excellence.
And that's who Aaron Rodgers to me is.
I mean, he's the greatest to ever play the position.
And when you're the greatest and you don't fit into the box of how you're supposed to be,
then I think people look for ways to kind of take shots at you in any way that they can.
It's hard to on the field because he's been so good for so long.
So it just seems like that's where a lot of the critics try to spend their energy.
But to your point now about these Tuesdays, I think me included, I really enjoy just getting
to know him as a guy.
I think a lot of us look forward to what's been really cool is you're thinking, oh, he probably won't do this Tuesday.
There he is.
It's easy to be there after the MVP seasons,
but, man, he was taking body blows this year,
and things were not good.
Dude would be there every Tuesday talking to you guys
about what just happened and clarifying maybe some things
that happened on a certain third down, or, man was on the line it didn't work out what happened
and I've really enjoyed just hearing him talk and and now here we are once again is he going to be
back in Green Bay is he not are they going to kind of come to some kind of understanding where
they're all on the same page and they can move together. And hopefully they will.
As a fan of just the game, you know, just watching him in that uniform,
I hope he gets everything he needs and the Packers are able to work things out.
You're old school, too.
You're old school, too.
So, like, watching him, like, retire a Packer would be fucking really –
that's old school.
He's an old school player, too.
Hey, he's got the cotton, you know what I mean? He's an old school player, too. Hey, he's got the cotton...
You know what I mean? He's an old school type
guy, it feels like. That would be his dream.
I'm just one of those guys. I hated
seeing these guys...
Think about some of the players
over the years. They put on
a uniform for a year or two, and
you almost forget about it.
Brady's case, he went on to win a Super
Bowl, and maybe Aaron could go do that somewhere else.
But I just – I'm not a Packers fan,
but I do love seeing Aaron Rodgers in a Packers uniform trying to get them
to win a division and try to win a Super Bowl.
There's just something great about that.
So hopefully they work it out.
Yeah, but you would also love to see him in a Colts uniform.
I mean, oh, my God.
In that blue jersey. Oh jersey oh my are you trying to
sell that are you working that in well the boys are working against me the boys were working
against me yesterday because he said I'm not gonna be a part of a rebuild and he said there's some
teams that'll probably say like hey we're gonna rebuild they're probably high up in the draft
he's like the Texans probably say that and then everybody Colts Colts so as he's giving this
really important answer I'm trying
to explain to him the Colts are not we are not in a rebuild we are because he didn't want to be a
part of a rebuild that was a big deal he's like well what are you right now what are the Colts
you know we're not in the playoffs so we're not going to talk about it Darius Butler has quite
we're in trouble is what we're in yeah you hear me we're in trouble that is what we're in. Can you hear me? We're in trouble. That is what we are in. Who's the quarterback?
Aaron Rodgers.
Put it on.
There it is.
It's right there.
Boom.
No, no, no.
That was for.
That's for the troops.
That's an Army hat. Yeah, that's an Army Ranger hat.
Green berets.
Green berets, yeah.
That's green berets.
Thank you for acknowledging them.
And that's what he'll do as an Indianapolis Colt.
Thank you so much, Aaron.
Thank you.
Get the suite ready.
Absolutely.
Hey, Aaron, any tickets you need from our suite, we got it, dude.
That's amazing.
So anyways, yeah, I'd love to see him as a Packer, obviously,
because it would be cool.
As a Colt, great for the league.
Where's Brady going to go next year?
What's the consensus?
What do you think?
What do you think?
You have different insights than we do.
Even though you're very new to the NFL,
you've had the opportunity to get to know a lot of people
that have a little different insight than we have.
We come from, like, player's side.
You have a chance now to meet those.
What are you hearing from your conversations that you're kind of a part of now?
I don't even think Tom Brady knows right now.
But it's fun to try to envision him fitting in at different places.
Greatest.
Las Vegas makes a lot of sense for obvious reasons.
I don't know.
Tampa, though.
The old buddy came on yesterday from Pewter Report,
and he laid out about how, if you think about it,
whenever he needed 11 days off in training camp, the Bucs were like,
you're good.
Whenever he wanted to go to Kraft's wedding and then miss a walkthrough,
Light and the Bucs were like, you're good.
He wanted to sign some people.
Light was like, we got it.
So they were laying out that maybe Tom will acknowledge that the Bucs were
very, very fucking accommodating, hospitable to him.
And maybe that'll weigh in there with the payment.
And then if they have a new coaching staff that potentially takes place,
not Todd Bowles,
but maybe Todd brings in his own or a different group.
I just can't see it.
I can't see that.
I think Tampa is like back at square one,
like all starting all over.
They own 40 mill.
I think,
right.
Isn't it $40 million dead cap 35 and35 million on March 15th, I believe.
That's a lot of money in dead cap.
I guess you could just start over and say, fuck it for a year,
but that's a lot of money in dead cap.
I mean, just watching them, not just against the Cowboys,
but just in general this year, didn't it just feel like something's missing there, man?
I don't know.
It doesn't feel like, oh, get a couple guys, make a few moves. It just feels
like, let's start over. That's what it feels
like to me. Bruce Arians has to go to bed
at night and go, has Steelers won
a fucking Super Bowl since I left?
Nope. By the way,
the Sam Fran thought, see,
I'm a massive
Kyle Shanahan system
and the way his approach and the way
they build it with John Lynch. I'm a
49ers guy and
not a fan just of what they do.
You guys are laughing about Brock
Purdy, but what if that dude...
Who? Kirk. Who's laughing about
Brock Purdy? Who are you talking to?
Everybody. Everybody looks
at like... Not this studio
here. You saw more of him
than we did, Kirk.
What's your thoughts on him?
Any chance he falls off that cliff, or did you like him coming out?
Well, Darius, here's what's cool about him,
and I think he could change the game for how people evaluate quarterbacks
because I think I've talked with you guys about this.
You look at Aaron Rodgers and Brady, and before that, Drew Brees,
Phillip Rivers, Big Ben.
It's the end of that era.
And, of course, we have Josh Allens and Justin Perberts and Burrow
and this next wave.
But I feel like play callers, I think offensive coordinators right now,
some of them are getting let go.
I think they're still trying to run their old system that they learned,
like the digit system from Norv Turner or the West Coast offense,
and they're trying to fit it into guys like Justin Fields
or these guys that are more dual threat.
Now, the smart play callers, I think, are adjusting what we've seen with Andy Reid,
what we've seen with Jalen Hurts,
the guys that are finding ways to take these college quarterbacks
that don't run NFL systems and trying to get them
to adjust to what they do well. With that being said, I feel like Kyle Shanahan has a quarterback
friendly offense. You don't have to come in and be Pat Mahomes. Just distribute the ball.
Here's a guy that started four years in college. You could say, what does college have to do with
the NFL? I think it has to do with reps.
That position more than any other position, the more reps you get, the more the game slows down.
And then you put him into that system where they're going to run the football, get the ball out of his hands quick.
He's very cerebral.
He sees things.
If you notice, if you really evaluate him, very rarely is he holding on to the football.
If you notice, if you really evaluate him, very rarely is he holding on to the football.
So you combine his intelligence and his experience with Kyle Shanahan's system,
the defense that they play, a punt's a good play with the 49ers.
And this guy doesn't make mistakes.
I would not be shocked to see them not only beat Dallas,
but I think they can go to Philly and beat Philly.
I think they're the team to beat, in my opinion, in the NFC.
You did say that immediately after the Niner-Seattle game,
I was in the booth.
You know, we hit that super boost from the booth.
I mean, that was a big deal.
Thank you for the input. I went casual that night, didn't I?
Yeah, you did go casual.
I remember that.
You did.
Yeah, you want a little something different, you know?
From the start, yeah.
Yeah, kind of a winter casual look.
You look really distinguished, I think.
You carrying that big bag upstairs, we got casual on him that night.
Is that your call?
I am happy that you had that many clothes with you.
Seemingly four closets worth of clothes.
I am happy you had that.
What a life you have lived.
But anyways, bingo.
Hey, bingo.
Literally 15 minutes before the game.
Just out of nowhere, need it.
Bingo.
That's crazy to me.
We'll move on.
You said immediately after that game, you said immediately after,
you said a lot of people like the Eagles or whatever.
He said, I like the Eagles as well.
He said, how do you beat that team?
That's what you said. You literally pointed at the Niners team as they were celebrating.
We're in the booth and the Niners were celebrating. I think George Kittle was getting interviewed.
There was something else going on. He goes, how do you beat that team? And I'm like, that's a great
fucking question. And every time we pick games, whenever you're like I'm betting or whatever,
putting together a parlay, it's like always a thought. Like, how do you move any, how do you
move against that defense? Like how, how do you, they, if they want to, you know, like, how do you move any, how do you move against that defense? Like, how do you, if they want to, you know,
like, and I think they fuck around a little bit in deep,
but you might know more.
It seems like there is an ability to get yards on them.
Yeah.
What makes them so good, though, just whenever they need to lock it down?
Is that you need to get off?
No.
Never.
What was that, just get a little push-up in?
Maybe.
Yeah, stand up.
Tighten the spray tan up a little bit maybe?
Any of that?
No.
Oh, no.
Okay, I didn't know.
I didn't know.
Darius, people can get yards on them, I feel like.
Yeah.
But they still visibly are just like the best defense I've seen in forever.
They're physical.
They're fast as shit.
They tackle great.
And, you know, they play a lot of zone.
And obviously when you play zone,
you're going to have opportunities to hit big plays.
And you've got to hit them.
And if you miss them, you miss them.
You only may get three, maybe four opportunities to get chunks on them.
So you've got to take advantage of those.
And then their offense, you know, they eat up clock.
They stay ahead of the chains.
They're efficient.
So that gives that defense a chance to rest, make adjustments,
and get back on the field.
And that's the best thing for a defense.
So it's really a perfect storm, honestly.
Okay, Kirk.
Hell yeah.
I'm just saying, I think it's the best built roster in the NFL
with not just drafting players,
but drafting players to fit your system on both sides of the football.
Debo.
How about Debo, dude?
And Christian.
I know, man.
And they add Christian McCaffrey.
But Debo is like, he was hurt for a while, so I think people forgot.
Because Christian McCaffrey.
You got a hell of a year this year.
From training camp.
Remember, he was making plays in training camp.
They talked about it.
This team is just.
And they get better use check there.
Just full back.
Darius, you love this.
Like corners that are willing to tackle and receivers that are willing to block
tells you a lot about a personality of a football team,
and I feel like they're that team.
No ego.
You bring up Ayuk.
He could go somewhere else and be like an A.J. Brown type of guy.
He has a really ridiculous skill set,
and here he is buying into Kyle Shanahan's system and blocking.
I don't know.
There's just a lot to like on that team, the wiring of that team, the scheme,
all of it.
And that defensive line, I mean, we can talk all we want about the scheme,
but the depth that they have on that defensive line led by Bosa,
they rotate guys in and out.
Did you see what he's eating?
Did you see what Bosa's eating?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
He's like you.
He's like you.
No carbs.
Yeah, like me.
Yeah.
No, he's doing it with, like, science.
He's got a chef out there.
He's got a full-time chef.
40% carbs, 40% protein, 20%, I think, like, vegetables.
Greens.
Greens.
I forget what it was.
And that's every meal.
He's eating just, like, raw salmon, raw fish, and then he's got some cute.
Yeah, but when you say carbs, what do you mean by carbs?
Like sweet potato, brown rice?
Like anything that tastes good is mostly carbs.
I do the cheating way.
He does the real way.
That's against the rules to me, a defensive lineman that leads the league in sacks to look like that.
So he's so proportionally put together, you think he's short.
Yeah.
So then I go to that game against Seattle, and I think I texted it to the group.
I said, this dude's a fucking jungle cat, bro.
Because he's spread out in that sprinter stance.
He said his trainer said, like, probably faster if you put your arm back.
So he tried it and started hanging it there.
It has really worked, yeah.
So they showed video from his rookie year when he was in the Super Bowl,
and they were talking about him being, like, just Patrick Mahomes was, like,
right out of reach, like right out of reach.
And then they showed, like, some sports science shit,
and they were like, he's half a second faster to the quarterback now.
If he was like this whenever he was a rookie, he would have had this many.
They broke it all down, and it's like he is fully committed
to being the biggest game wrecker in sports.
So let's talk about the Eagles then.
Just another Buckeye giving his all.
Oh, that's what it is.
I should have known.
Oh, H.
Oh, no.
Oh, no. Oh, no. I should have an OH oh no oh no this kid
this kid
this kid
you guys are gonna have bad
this
I don't want it to happen to you
you remember AJ
stopped giving me the IOs
yep
that's right
what was that for like
day three or something like that
because obviously
first couple days
had to
I got them all out of my system
and we did
a show live
in Columbus, Ohio
and the amount of OHs that are how many did you get yeah I mean it's just non-stop you almost and we did a show live in columbus ohio and the amount of ohs that are
how many did you get it yeah i mean it's just non-stop you almost can't do a show there like
almost can't do a show there because they they want to have fun and they're very intoxicated
which we're cool with because some of us are as well we're just trying to have a good time it's
tough to do a talk show though whenever just some okay, and then just kind of get into it.
No, they don't even get IOs, though.
Everybody goes, like, shut up, but that guy's a hero for even saying the OH.
I don't know how you live with it.
So what do you do on the third and fourth?
Do you just keep going back on the IO?
No, I forget how I handled it.
I think I judged the guy's voice because I couldn't see him. I did a full breakdown of what he does for a living i think i did one of those and i was
like and everybody else we can get all these out of our system later or we can just get roasted
all night out here i mean that could be the so you kind of it's not gonna stop it did i think
i think you did i think i did pretty good i did pretty good yeah well how did you how give me your
how did you make that stop no just next time we do a
show there you'll come with us we'll uh we'll hopefully be able to manage it in a similar
fashion you know i mean we gotta do a show in detroit this off season too yep i think we're
gonna do live shows this off season so let's go so we're gonna have to have you there that seems
seems natural to me what's your latest announcement besides bud light i saw congratulations i see the
can right hey be a Bud, tell a Bud,
grab some Bud Light.
I know you're a Coors Light guy, though.
Really?
I've reaped the benefit of him being a Coors Light guy
because there's been a couple different situations
where there's only Coors Light at the place.
So I have to...
And it's not bad.
It's not fucking Bud Light.
No, I appreciate you, though, man.
Big announcement.
Are you guys going to do, are the fellas coming out to game day next year every week,
or what are we doing with that?
That was a fun segment.
Connor, go ahead, pal.
Is that something you would even think about considering?
I mean, they would have to talk to your agent, counselor.
Sure, my PR people, yeah, I absolutely would.
But after what happened at the national Championship, I'm not so sure.
That's the team environment I want to be a part of
just because Kirk would invite us places
then he'd leave, then we'd show up
and then no one would be there.
So we'd be trying to just sit and play
with our thumbs while we're waiting in the
lobby to go meet Kirk and then come
to find out, oh, Kirk's not here. So we just drove
a half hour just to
valet the car for $20 and then drive a half hour back.
So I don't know.
We came to that pool party.
You didn't even know I was there.
Well, you told me you were there.
Kirk, you never asked.
I said, we're coming to see you.
And then we literally, you know, L.A. is L.A.,
so getting anywhere is a thing.
So it was like a good 35 minutes probably later we get there
but boy we were fucking bummed oh yeah bullshit we all knew you were leaving we were so excited
to come have a beer with you do you know how pumped we were to come have the one night the
one night i i had nothing to do was the the one night when you were you were texting me
and you were saying come on coming you're coming out that was the one time
that i shut it down and i didn't come out and meet you're coming out. That was the one time that I shut it down
and I didn't come out and meet you guys.
Oh, okay, so you just dunked in our face. There was nothing else going on.
Okay. Yeah, there was nothing else going on.
That was the only... No, I...
Yeah, yeah.
I didn't get sleep.
No, I was very tired. Hey,
you made the right decision. Yeah, I did.
You made the right decision. Hey, but you guys had the nice...
You had a nice hotel over there.
No, I ended up back in the hotel.
No way.
Yes.
See, that's what I'm talking about.
You missed us.
You missed the whole thing.
Team player, huh?
We're drinking beers with Marty Smith.
That's right.
Arnold Schwarzenegger was sitting near the boys.
Yeah.
We had coffee with Saban the morning of the national championship.
Who would have thought, though?
Kurt Herbstreit, busy on national championship weekend.
I know.
Okay.
What did you do?
You have a bunch of events.
I assume that is kind of your thing there.
Wrap up the year, a bunch of people?
Yeah, I had a few different things I had to do,
but it was mostly just coaches' meetings.
And in L.A., it's –
Oh, yeah, you call the game.
Well, he sleeps in the Rose Bowl booth.
Yeah.
Oh, is that your hotel?
Oh, you guys are beautiful.
You're just kicking me around here for the first hour.
No, you don't deserve that.
We're complimenting you, bro.
We were very bummed we didn't see you, though.
But it makes sense.
I was so tired on National Championship Day.
You know, whenever we finally got to the game, thought to myself yeah shouldn't have went and saw mike
posner you know what i mean for many reasons shouldn't have won one saw mike posner like i
had those regrets i felt like i was a young guy again i'm like i know this how about you next to
that was a blast hey he's he didn't know who i was right yeah he said at first commercial break he goes uh
where'd you go to school he asked me and i said west virginia he goes you know why i'm like yeah
fucking know you're from there yes i know you're from there and i think it was from that moment
i think we had about so you guys became boys as the show went on you guys got tighter and tighter
i feel like i think so i don't know if he was there was a couple moments where i didn't know
if he was focusing or thinking and i interrupted it or if he was like
done with my shit you know so it was uh it was kind of a little bit of a balance during some of
the commercial breaks but every time he was wide out he was i enjoyed the hell out of nick saban
i'm a massive fan so he knows that i think so what do you guys talk about the second half of
that game when it was over after a couple series i I made a couple of sexual innuendos.
Hey, listen, I don't ever do that either.
I made a couple of sexual innuendos because –
I heard about that.
Yeah.
Talked about the rain for a little bit.
I was a little tired.
It was like 12 hours we were alive for that day.
Yeah, the raining inside was certainly a massive part.
Of a domed stadium.
I could see that, just like sheets coming down what did you talk
about up there you guys had to cover the game still what oh boy wow
because we had access to everything yeah we had the guy with the mustache yeah we were just jacking
around already smooth we should have definitely plugged into you guys and just let you carry it for the second half.
No, no, we should have done a chat, though.
We should have.
Yeah, he didn't want you to.
We should have done what we're doing right now for the whole second half, honestly.
Whole second half.
We had stuff to do.
That mustache guy.
Yeah.
Did you see the mustache?
The mustache guy.
What was that?
Oh, my God.
This dude walks.
AJ is making an incredible point.
Like, he is literally talking, breaking something down.
Right.
What's that called?
Type of vision?
Peripheral.
Right.
Peripheral.
I see a face with a lip decoration that seemed fake.
Like, I thought somebody was wearing one of those fake fucking...
Yeah.
Oh, this person broke onto the field
is what I was thinking,
walked by,
because I'll go to...
Completely distracted.
Holy shit.
Then turn around,
and then AJ realizes,
I think his periphery gets the same thing.
He sees it, yep.
He goes, oh my God,
we thank him for being a firefighter
and for his service,
literally just on the spot
because of how good it looked.
We had that to carry
for like two, three minutes.
That was wild.
Could you imagine not having that?
Oh, my God.
You would have been me.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, you guys are in trouble.
He was prepared, though, because he called Colts Broncos this year.
So it's not as if that was the worst game that he had to call.
That's a fair point.
That's a fair point.
That was the worst game I've ever.
Yeah, and like if a score happens, it changes.
How about getting excited to call the NFL
and looking at your schedule before the season starts
and you're putting little stars on it?
Oh, yeah.
No, I mean, are you kidding me?
Rams Cardinals?
Matt Ryan and Russell Wilson?
I mean, just put that one down.
Yes, that would be a good one.
And then you get there and it's like, holy shit.
We can't get a first down.
Somebody just move the sticks.
Oh, my God.
Move the sticks.
You did great, though.
I want to let you know you did great.
The energy was great all year.
Seemingly enjoyed all of it, which I think you did.
No, I think you do, though.
I think you do because you understand.
And I said this earlier about you being the face of college football for 27 years and not knowing that because that's how you act.
Like you are very much a very pumped to be here person still.
Doesn't realize how big of a fucking celebrity you are.
So I do know that you enjoyed it and everything like that.
But your energy while going through those games we thought was fantastic.
When you could have certainly dropped off and nobody
would have blamed you for it i think you had a great year dude welcome to the league hey yeah
welcome to the league thank you the men's league yeah i i i kept thinking about that after i was
trying to get first downs on thursday night this is the men's league oh yeah this is the men's league
this is this is where they go this is where first downs go to a black hole.
Now, we should say that immediately upon your arrival to the NFL,
worst offense in half a decade.
Yeah.
So is that you?
Are you thinking about that at all?
Well, we're going to find out because I signed a five-year contract.
Let's go, baby.
All right.
Enjoy yourself.
We can't thank you enough for joining us.
That's amazing.
You deserve it, by the way.
Hey, Kirk, you deserve it.
Way to go, Kirk.
Thank you for being so good to me and everybody this season.
We really appreciate it, dude.
Thank you, guys.
And we'll look forward to...
We're going to get Connor with his...
This is a guy with a
t-shirt with a wolf on it. That's what
he's bringing to the table. That segment
was outstanding, and we've got to get
that. Remember I had a mission to get you
on game day?
Mission accomplished.
Now we've got to get the fellas
on the road. Your show live on the road on Fridays.
Are you kidding me?
We could do a night show.
So we brainstormed this already.
We don't have enough people that work for us to figure it out, especially during the season.
But the night before the games on the campuses, we could easily get a theater and stream a show from there.
And then we could maybe, I mean,
if my relationships continue to build with some of these college football people, we could maybe have them come be a guest on show.
They would love that.
From theater and then alumni too.
Then you stream that.
Then that's our show for Friday.
You know, like that is, I put that together.
I think that would be awesome.
That would be fantastic.
Well, I think that's got to happen.
I think that would be a monster.
That would be a monster.
All right, Kirk, you get your people on that.
We need to rent out all those theaters.
We need to figure out the ticketing.
The SeatGeek will be able to be a part of that.
But what is it going to be?
Is it going to be $5?
Is it going to go to donation?
How do we go about doing that whole thing?
$1,000, $2,000,
$25,000 tickets.
It's just us in an empty theater every single week.
We try to sell tickets.
No, we won't. Sorry about it.
We need guests. You need to book.
We need to book the guests.
Also, you would have to be there.
I'm in. I'm in. I'd love it.
Okay, that's one.
Boom.
Boom.
Check it out.
We've got a five-leg parlay we've got to hit.
Don't go to high school football games Friday nights, okay?
You're with us.
Oh, shit.
Can't do it.
Oh, boy.
After football season.
Good run.
High school ends early.
Didn't it?
Depends on how far they run in the playoffs.
Hey, they're going to be running farther, too, next year.
I already know about them boys, the Bombers.
They're going to go.
That team's got a lot of young boys.
They've got a young squad this year.
Hell, yeah.
They're becoming young men right in front of our eyes.
That's right.
Love it.
Can't wait to watch the Bombers and the Bomb Squad
and you on the NFL for the next four years.
Here we go.
Let's go, dude.
You're going to look younger then than you do now somehow.
We appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, Kirk Herbst. All right. Let's go, dude. You're going to look younger then than you do now somehow. We appreciate you.
Ladies and gentlemen, Kirk Herbst.
Hey!
This live from Manatee, Ohio, is a man who's a college football national champion,
a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup champion.
Yes, that's college football, professional football, and golf.
Whoa.
This man beat the world as a representative of the United States in the Ryder Cup
and became a champion.
He is also a COVID survivor, father of 10, A.J. Hall.
Yay!
A.J., how you doing, pal?
Doing great.
Diggs does look good.
So, yeah, I second that.
Okay.
All in favor?
Aye.
Okay, so we all voted.
Thank you.
Tony, get this guy a medal.
Jeez, Tony.
Do we need Billy Pix out here and Make sure he gets a good shot.
Yeah, absolutely.
You've seen that.
Billy Pix has been taking photos around the office.
It's fantastic.
Very nice.
He sent some to me after we were out in L.A.
He's like, you know, I figured I'd take some shots.
It's cool because it's a real camera.
It does look much better than just an iPhone.
Yeah, and he'll just kind of creep around.
He's really good at lurking in the shadows.
Why is it always going to do this?
Why is it always going to do this?
In a good way. In a good way.
No, he's been fantastic.
Make sure you get a photo of their tone.
And we have some breaking news.
And I assumed that you would have just led off with this.
So I was hoping that you would allude me for this whole thing.
Because normally when a guest is scheduled to come on the program and AJ is introduced,
I normally ask AJ how he's doing.
He goes, oh, good.
Don't we have a guest coming on?
It's like, thank you, AJ. Thank you. We're probably trying to figure that out right now. And Gabe Davis
was supposed to join us 1.15 Eastern Standard Time. We have some breaking news out of the Buffalo
Beals. Their practice ended early today. There was a gap in between practice and meetings where he was supposed to come on the program.
Practice ended early.
Everything got slid up.
He is in meetings, no longer in the window to do said conversation with us.
Damn it.
He'll be moved to Friday.
Okay.
Sweet.
Probably.
So we'll be chatting with him then.
So we have breaking news.
Things are really fucking good in Buffalo.
Yeah. They're ending practice early and bumping meetings up.
That only happens when they feel pretty good about where they're at.
And I don't know if that was supposed to be how I was supposed to handle that
with them giving us the information.
But immediately.
This is the first time.
Has this happened earlier in the year?
Any other time in the year have they?
Good question.
Bumped meetings up because they got off the field early.
But when they texted Zito that, they texted Zito that,
and Zito was explaining, like, they're meetings now.
And I'm like, okay, can you just read what they said?
Practice ended early.
Meetings got moved up.
I'm like, my first thought is somebody that's been in the building,
it's like, that's great news.
Fast practice is very, very good news, D, but you had the same reaction.
Same reaction, yeah, especially this time of the season, playoffs,
you know, big game coming, huge game
coming up, obviously the biggest, getting out of there early.
You also had the fast practices.
You know, Matt Ryan and the Colts.
That's right, too fast sometimes.
What are we talking about?
That was very different situation.
Their problem was the games, Tony, not the practices.
Practices, we sliced and diced
those Lions, didn't we?
And those teams went two different
directions didn't they yeah uh but nonetheless it sounds like things are good we uh appreciate
them telling us uh giving us a heads up and also moving into friday we appreciate the buffalo bills
people have been the most phenomenal folks first class honestly it is bananas how nice they are to
us so we're very very thankful for that and g Gabe Davis, congratulations. Sounds like, hey, let's lock in.
Meetings.
Maybe they were like, you know what?
Boys look like we're flying around.
Let's just get right to the mentals.
That's right.
Or maybe they had a, you know, 10-period practice that only took the amount of
time in like a six-period practice.
And that means, ooh, we're going fast.
They're buzzing.
That means there's no mistakes.
There's no re-dos.
There's no nothing.
It's just like boom, bang, boom, boom, pow, pow, pow.
How we doing? Those days are good days. Great days. Everybody's vibe re-dos. There's no nothing. It's just like boom, bang, boom, boom, pow, pow, pow. How we doing?
Those days are good days.
Great days.
Everybody's vibe in the building is very high on those days.
Coaches' vibes are very high.
Chefs' days' vibes are very high.
Athletic trainers' vibes are very high.
Equipment managers' vibes are very high.
Loops done early.
Those are good days.
Hey, make sure you turn in your loops.
Turn in your loops.
Fast Friday, Fast Friday.
Real thing, AJ.
Credit to the coaching staff because we all know, as the games mean more and more,
the coaches usually get more and more nervous, the old tight butthole syndrome,
and they are never letting people out because we've got to make use of every single opportunity we possibly have.
And credit to McDermott and the staff.
And credit to our show for turning that message that, hey, can't do it into just a full thing.
Amen.
And just can't stop being dumbasses ever.
Just that's a problem.
That's a problem with our program.
They have said that DeMar Hamlin's been around the facility almost every day
this week, so maybe this does lend credence to fucking DeMar Hamlin
coming out on ATV this weekend.
Sal Capaccio fucking just ripping, shredding the guitar,
and then boom, all the boys coming out.
I don't know what the line is right now.
If it's moved, this may be a Buffalo Beals minus 50 situation.
The Bengals are not happy either, though.
No, they're not.
The Bengals think they should have a home game.
And Kirk Herbstreit in the last hour was talking about how that Bengals building
and stadium is a real advantage now, and not now in that it wasn't before,
but it's a real weapon and you can see it on TV. It is. I can see.
Now I can go back a couple of weeks. Remember I asked Rappaport, I'm like,
what are the Bengals fans? You know,
they were not a house. I think about it. That was not a,
that was one of those stadiums where the coach, but Hey,
you got to bring our energy. All right. Cause in some state, if you go in, it's going was not a... That was one of those stadiums where the coach would be like, hey, you got to bring our energy, alright?
Because in some stadiums,
if you go in, it's going to be a hostile environment.
You're going to be jacked up because you feel like, hey, all we
packed was us, and it's us against the world.
That was one of those stadiums. Hey, you got to bring your
own energy, guys. People probably say that about Lucas Oil.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. People probably say
that about Lucas Oil.
A lot of 1 o'clock games.
There's a lot of places where there's 1 o'clock games where you're like,
yeah, we've got to bring our own juice, guys.
You can go out for warm-ups.
You're going to think it's a JV game.
There's nine people in the stands.
Yeah, and the sun, the weird shadows.
That's the worst part of the game.
You can feel it.
You can feel the atmosphere when the sun is at that weird angle.
You're like, oh, this is like one of those sleepy early games.
Yeah, because you're using, you know, the sundial's been around a long time.
But you're using yourself as a sundial.
You're like, god damn, this sun is way down still.
And then you start, they're playing music full,
as if the whole stadium is there.
So it's real loud, and it's just echoing.
People are yawning.
People are trying to cover their yawns.
Oh, my god.
Yeah, that's not good.
Those are not good times.
Bad time.
That's not good for the team.
Let's talk about some shit.
Aaron Rodgers Tuesday had some fallout, AJ.
Your thoughts on being the reason behind it all?
I honestly haven't really checked much of any fallout.
What happened?
Are people pissed?
I would imagine like every other day.
Yeah, every day everybody's pissed.
But on this particular day, people are pissed because they go,
Oh, here we go again.
That seems like what people are saying.
It seems like, and, you know.
Stop watching.
Stop watching it then.
No, no, I agree.
I agree with that.
Ricky Gervais has something about Twitter, and he compared it to like a town square, where you go down to a town square, and he was obviously talking to British people. But he was how people pin like, oh, you need a guitar teacher or something like that.
And there's like a little tear at the bottom of the piece of paper with the phone number on it.
He said Twitter is people just going down to town square or whatever, grabbing that thing and going, I don't want a fucking guitar teacher.
He's like, well, you don't need to. You don't have to.
You don't have to.
You don't have to.
You know, that is a thing that does take place in our world.
And there's a lot of people that hate watch a lot of things I'm learning.
I've learned through my experiences.
But also, it is a story that is, you know, worthy of conversation.
This is a Pantheon quarterback in the nfl and he and the packers
seemingly don't know if they want each other and that was my big takeaway because in years past it
was like aaron has said it's a two-way street two-way street two-way street then allegedly
they had negotiated ways to make it more of a two-way street as opposed to a one-way road
and aaron's just standing there trying to make everything right when decisions aren't being made he said that again yesterday
that surprised you like the Packers if they want me back it's a two-way street and I want to play
football then we'll figure that out as we go is his whole answer but I didn't expect that from
the Packers side of it did you that was a bit surprising when he said like when he said obviously
he's not going to be a part of a rebuild. And he said if they feel like going with Jordan is the way to go, then he can't really do anything about that.
That was the most surprising part.
But he knows, I'm sure, hey, if he wants to play football, I would imagine they would do what they can to have him there.
Okay.
Is that your thoughts?
How about sources?
That's my thoughts in the moment.
I haven't given it any thought before this moment right now.
You had to have given it some thought.
Yeah, come on.
A little.
It's what he said.
It's the same thing I thought right when he said it.
I go, okay, well, he's mentioning that.
I never even thought of that happening, really, I guess.
Me neither.
I don't know if it's a possibility.
I think he's letting us know and everybody knows.
We don't really know. There's a lot up in the air right now, I guess, I think he just wants to, like, he's letting us know and everybody knows. We don't really know.
Like, there's a lot up in the air right now, I guess, on all sides.
And the Packers, and Ty, this is going to suck for you to hear,
because you did bring it up earlier.
You're like, our team's not in the playoffs.
Like, I'm not doing that again.
I think that's if you're the Packers' side,
because they obviously had to have chatted about that,
and Aaron's takeaway was they might not want him back.
So, like, that should be noted as well.
Aaron, pretty observant human, I think. Okay, if they don't want him back, though, what, that should be noted as well. Aaron, pretty observant human, I think.
Okay, if they don't want him back, though, what do they have to do financially?
What has to happen?
It's like a...
Massive.
They would try to trade him, obviously.
Massive dead count.
Trade would be the thing.
That's why he said, if I want to play football,
which is a massive decision I'm going to make with my binocs,
watching the whales frolic in the Pacific Ocean.
That's right. say he's going to
do that if i want to come back and then whenever that happens which there would have to be an
expedited timeline which i try to point out like well if you do like there's a lot of things that
have to take place because he said he wanted a couple things randall cobb and mercedes lewis
back at least so that whole thing has to happen before free agency right because there's a lot
of stuff that has to get handled so that he said if he wants to come back, and they want me back,
so they're probably taking this time.
It's his understanding, and this is just from listening to him yesterday,
that they're taking this time to figure out what the fuck they want as well.
He's going to take time, and they're going to take time.
Is that what you got out of that?
I guess, or he's waiting to see what they plan on,
what their plan might be heading into the offseason
as far as what the roster looks like.
That's what I took from it.
Yeah, so kind of they're figuring out what they're doing.
He's figuring out what he's doing.
Is there a date?
Does he have a date in March where he's owed a roster bonus or anything?
Is there anything like that out there?
It might be a pre-G1, post-G1,
but one of the things he said throughout the season.
The word he said there was June.
June, yes, excuse me.
One of the things he said, the season. The word he said there was June. June, yes, excuse me. One of the things he said, though, is him coming back,
a lot of it depends on kind of the development of the team that they had
because of how young it was.
And it feels like Watson and Dobbs both came into their own
by the end of the season where it's like, hey,
next year when you're coming back, sure, they're still young wide receivers,
but these guys aren't brand new.
And it's not like he's teaching them the system.
All of a sudden, when they do have Dobbs and Watson and who knows with Lazard,
but when those two were on the field, they were very, very good by the end of the season.
Why does this continue to happen, though?
What do you mean?
Why does he still think that there's a chance that they don't want him to be their quarterback?
What's the fucking deal?
I don't know, because he said that like uh it might have been like after a week
like 14 or so he said kind of something similar and gutekinst and you know lafleur and everyone
basically said like hey listen we're not ready for this guy to leave town yet and who knows you
know maybe things have changed in the last five weeks or so
but i just don't buy that i i think they want him back and i think his big like i mentioned in the
first hour i think his big thing is if i am going to come back i want my guys who i love here you
know so and if that's if the packers have a different idea about that with some of these
guys who are getting a little bit older and who they need to fairly compensate.
Like that might be a rubber meet the road kind of thing. But I think they envision next year with Rodgers at quarterback.
Yeah, I'm on the same page.
I mean, and we know you get a lot of lip service in business
when you commit that kind of money to somebody like you want the motherfucker there.
And it's not like he fell off a cliff this year.
He didn't play.
It wasn't an MVP year.
He had a lot of moving parts.
And to your point, you know, these guys are going to be a year older.
Christian Watson was a legit, like, dude at the end of the season.
And he mentioned a bunch of the guys that he would like back.
So, yeah, I could see these guys right back, you know, compete for that.
All right, here we go.
Watching Wales.
Getting back to it.
What did Jay say?
Jump in there with him?
Financially, it looks like he'll be better.
She'll try to fire footballs at him for target practice.
That'd be sweet.
I don't think you should do that.
Just watch Avatar.
Come on. Or hit golf balls in the blowhole.
Yeah, no.
Wales probably can't.
It sounds like abuse.
Don't do that.
Somebody's going to be pissed.
He could, though.
I saw him with Bud Lightcan in Tahoe from balcony to jet ski.
What? Chuck. Yeah, it to jet ski. What?
Yeah, it was. What?
Am I caught?
Yeah, jet ski.
I forget who it was. Might have been Foxy.
I think it was Ryan. Yeah, one on the train. He banged right off his head and knocked him out cold.
No, it was your brother, the guy that beats up Lake Tahoe every morning.
If it was Foxy, he would have collapsed his chest.
Oh!
I mean, 12 ounces coming from a long way, dude.
It was unbelievable.
It was a fucking –
Shocked.
Yeah, a huck.
This was fresh out of Hungary.
I think he had just got back from Hungary.
Obviously, he brought his pads with him just like Russell Wilson did to Monaco.
So his arm was in mid-season form.
Perfect.
And he was already dialed in.
Slept in his shoulder pads, I think, a couple nights.
Yeah, at Tahoe.
His camp was coming up, and he came down to eat eat breakfast and he still had his shoulder pads on no shirt
underneath i was like what are you doing as a guy you know what like two weeks out from camp i
sleep with my pads on and then you do remember we went to that opening meeting like 45 minutes
later or whatever but the part we did see is once again aaron you're not allowed to wear your
shoulder pads when you golf this week at lake Tahoe the celebrity pro one chuckled yeah everyone laughed yeah every year he tries to do this guys yeah that's what they said
and so the guy loves ball but anyways he like loves ball he he gets his butt like can and it's
fucking just casual hey yo like uh like you have a movie it felt like it was a fucking movie yeah
basically you got this MVP hippie fucking quarterback up here on top of this balcony here.
Out of nowhere.
He had been gone, I think, for a few minutes.
We're kind of just chilling in a hey-yo happens.
Turn.
Okay, that's Aaron Rodgers.
Holy fuck.
And then...
Holy shit.
And then jet ski grab of the beer can.
I think your brother jumped off jet ski,
grabbed it or whatever,
and then gets up, obviously drinks it. I'm like, he just threw a fucking bud light can further than i've ever
seen a can thrown in my life and that led into a conversation about like there was that story
about him being bad at beer pong remember i don't believe it i'd assume darts he's a fucking no has
he always been that way you think is he just always yeah i mean unfortunately he probably he
might he probably will see this clip even though he'll say he won't but yeah he's good at all those things yeah he's he's a very like not even like
undercover athlete like he's a stud athlete whatever you play he's gonna be really good at it
but i feel like throwing shit he has uh an ability that why i assume baseball he would have been a
oh yeah i think baseball uh aj would probably know but i think baseball like was his i mean
he's told us on here like that was his sport in high school, you know.
And then, what, one of his coaches or something, maybe, like, I don't know,
like, I can't remember what it was exactly, but he was like,
all right, I'm going to commit to football.
Whoa, pissed him off.
Is that real?
I think he said something along the lines of that.
All right, I'm going to go over here then.
Fuck you.
I think it was the Juco.
We got a clip of it.
Casey, the man who makes the TikToks, he found a clip, I think, of Aaron from either Juco or high school.
You should fucking see this, dude.
So old school.
Just big-ass pads.
His pads are huge.
It looks like it's from the fucking 1990s.
He's old, dude.
This guy's old.
He's been in the NFL a long time.
You don't think
about that because tom brady is the conversation because he is he's fucking old too not in real
life obviously he's going to live a long time but when you talk about a locker room with 23 year
olds 22 year olds they're talking about the age of these quarterbacks in the playoffs right now
brock purdy obviously younger than stetson fucking bennett joey burrow is a young man
lamar's still a young guy he's about to paid somewhere. He's going to be in this whole thing. Literally,
even the older generation,
Josh Allen, the older
generation right now is young. It is
a nice little new era, it feels like,
of the NFL, and these playoffs
are a perfect kind of depiction
of it, but the old dogs ain't going
to just go away quietly.
I don't think that's the case, AJ.
What year is Pat Mahomes in?
Look at this fucking guy.
Boom.
Bang.
I think that's, is that Chico State?
Is that college?
Is that Cowboy?
Huh?
Whoa.
Who was that?
You should have seen me.
A guy from Yellowstone?
Just a guy that was tipping a cap to the Cowboys.
He got a big time win first time since 93.
That's all it was all day.
They deserved it.
I'm not like...
Is this him and Chico?
Is he the baby?
Yeah, it's basically Chico
and Butte.
Oh my God. Fullback.
Whoever Grapp is, dude, don't
fucking get in his way.
Look like Penn State a little bit.
Pretty good little
drop in there.
Break that tackle.
Come on.
Geez.
Palm fake. Turns.
Seam.
The dude who
couldn't outrun people just a moment ago
goes up over top.
Think how uncomfortable it would be to wear those old school girdles with their hip
and butt.
Is that Jordy? Is that fucking Jordy Nelson? Think how uncomfortable it would be to wear those old school girdles with their hip and butt. Dude, 10 is a fucking player.
Is that Jordy?
Is that fucking Jordy Nelson?
Oh, now they're playing Chico.
Is this where JV coached him?
Oh, what was that?
Whoa.
Was it a crazy dab on him?
Was it a dab?
Did he create the dab?
I'm surprised.
10 is a dog.
10 is a fucking player.
You gotta find out who 10 is.
Gotta find out. It's gotta be Cole Beasley. Dude, text Aaron To find out who 10 is Gotta find out It's gotta be Cole Beasley
Dude
Text Aaron
Find out who 10 is
Is that Jordan
That might be Jordan
It's gotta be
Schultz
Dude they only had
Three numbers
They were like
Obviously Aaron
And then we got
12, 88, and 45
We gotta look out for
That's 10
This guy
Of course
No glove
Dude this one
This guy went for
10,000 yards in one season
High stepping the whole way
Give the ball To 45 again 54 don't have a chance This guy went for 10,000 yards in one season. He was high-stepping the whole way.
Give the ball to 45 again.
54, I don't have a chance.
Can't be giving it to 45 when 10 is wide open.
Five just came into the league.
Where's he at?
Five?
Five is back.
There he is.
Five is a red zone threat.
45 was hurt earlier in the year.
He got healthy halfway through.
So this is high school.
High school?
This is Pleasant Valley High School.
Who's number 10?
Oh, dude, this dude was a dog.
He didn't go to Chico State.
No, this guy went to the league. No, he went to SC.
Are you kidding me?
Yeah, dude.
This guy's awesome.
Oh, look at 45.
Where's he at?
Right there with all the stickers on his helmet.
Is that Aaron playing wide receiver?
Oh, no.
Is this an all-star game or something?
This is all-star.
Yeah.
We're just stealing people's footage right now.
We do apologize.
I assume you'll take the money from this.
That's 10.
That's 10.
Got to be 10.
We got earrings.
Those earrings.
Dog, dude.
Is he a movie star now? Look at that perfect drop. Is that 10? Yeah. You can tell. Yeah, body. We have earrings. Those earrings. Dog, dude. Is he a movie star now?
Look at that perfect drop.
Is that 10?
Yeah.
You can tell.
Yeah, body.
You can tell.
Nope.
Wait, 87 for Wolverine football?
All right, anyways, yeah, that guy's been good forever.
Yeah.
That's not 10.
That was not 10.
No.
Chris Sims?
That might have been eight.
Who knows?
Let's move along.
Lions offense coordinator Ben johnson staying in
detroit this is a big deal also uh this is a massive ordeal believes in something that they're
building up there in detroit would be special uh obviously if they were the coaching staff in the
team that was able to bring success to detroit after decades and decades and decades and decades
of failure that would be something that i think you would want on your resume.
That was almost like the selling point for some of these jobs,
these coaches' egos.
Whenever you go get hired at Cleveland, it's like you could be the coach
that turns the Cleveland Browns around.
You could be the GM that turns it around.
And that becomes like a thing that they would like to be able to say
in their community.
Detroit, obviously one of those, especially with how much MCDC was mocked and ridiculed for being MCDC.
If they were the ones that were able to bring success there, resume would be massive.
Now, he's already getting head coaching interviews.
I assume, just like he's probably assuming, those will come at some point.
Doesn't have to be right now, A.J. Hawk.
Yeah, do you think it's possible he also thought,
hey, I don't have a great chance of even getting this job?
But I would assume he's thinking he's just being super loyal to Dan Campbell
and what the Lions have going.
Interesting.
Darius, what are your thoughts on that?
Do you think it's because he wasn't going to get hired?
I didn't think about that.
Honestly, after probably Sean Payton,
I would have thought he would have probably been one of the most sought-after coaches.
You know, it was obviously just one year
But Jerry Goff had a great year
This Detroit Lions team
Outperformed expectations
You watch the tape
They look like a well oiled machine
I would have been happy if the Colts
For example would have hired this guy
But maybe he feels like he's not ready for that
Maybe and this also does say a lot
About MCc and the
kind of the culture he's building over there not only with the uh players but the coaches like you
don't you don't just pass up an opportunity to be a head coach to continue to be a coordinator so i
said i think this says a lot about uh what they're building over there so that's an interesting thing
if he was going to get a job or not it seems like a guy that owners would want to hire too like
remember whenever whenever an owner signs or hires somebody that's young,
they can say that they saw it before.
I changed the game, really.
Look, I found this person.
Allegedly, the Panthers loved him.
So everyone in Detroit is pretty shocked about this.
That's a lot of money down there.
Obviously, loyalty is something you can't put a price tag on.
But I enjoy the fact that that's happening.
Go ahead, Connor.
As you said said there's
not many you know nine and eight teams that get top 10 picks and they have that situation where
they have two in the top 15 right because of where they finish at nine and eight with the
rams pick for this year as well and like you know jameson williams yeah jameson hasn't even really
been used yet didn't he 12th pick last year yeah i love season a full season with him? I love that move. Wink Martindale
said that he'll worry about his head coaching
opportunities later or something. I forget the
exact quote. Because we've been talking about this
last couple days, and Darius, I'll be excited to get your thoughts
on this, because you thought about
dabbling in the coaching world. I do
not like that D'Amico Rines had to do four
fucking head coaching interviews while
also preparing for the Dallas Cowboys.
Those are the biggest interviews of your life.
There's only 32 of those jobs.
That's the pinnacle of your profession that you are currently trying to pursue.
So having to prepare for that while also having to prepare for why you're even
getting an opportunity to do that, they have to fix that.
Yeah, I agree.
You're right.
Don't you agree?
Yeah, I agree.
I mean, and obviously, you know, this is business,
and you've got to compartmentalize things.
But when you're preparing for a game, especially like this,
like you're trying to get the – like you only get so many opportunities
where you're in this position to compete for a championship.
So I think the system or whatever should be set up to where these guys can focus
on that.
But there are other guys just floating.
You know, Sean Payton's just available.
He's out here.
Other coaches that may be – obviously all the teams that aren't still playing
right now are just available.
So I think they shouldn't be able to interview either.
You should just have a window where everybody can do this at the same time.
So there's some sense of –
Is there a coaches' union?
I don't think so.
That feels like that would be something that the coaches' union would be like
for the good of the team.
The teams want to coach, though.
Let's say you end your season in whatever early January,
you don't want to have to wait until after the Super Bowl to hire your coach, though.
I don't know how you change it.
I think everybody would just have to do it.
It would have to just be a thing.
Actually, you'd keep jobs more often then, wouldn't you?
You guys would hold their jobs maybe longer if they were thinking about firing.
If we fire this dude,
we got to wait two months
and we don't know if we're going to get
who we want in that whole process, too.
Yeah.
Because then you only have, what,
like a month and a half before the draft?
Your team's just floating out there
with no head coach, possibly no GM.
Like, what about GMs?
Can you hire GMs during that time?
There's a coaches association
and the only member,
or the only coach who is not a member
is Bill Belichick.
Oh, yeah.
Goddamn right.
That's because he's a GM, too.
I got to negotiate with those motherfuckers about everything.
Not a chance.
No way.
That's why he didn't do the team photo.
Yeah, and teams are hiring.
Does he do the head coach photo?
He was not in it this last season.
He doesn't do what team photo?
The head coach photo.
Yeah, where Andy Reid's wearing the Tommy Bahama shirt.
They all look so sweet.
He was there, though, so he might be in it.
They all look very comfortable.
You know, it seems like they're all very pumped
to be taking that. Matt Rule, front
and center. I don't know.
The younger coaches get bullied into standing in the
front. It's your first year here. It's
fucking terrible. Stand up there.
None of us want to be here, dude. Alright?
We're taking a photo. They look like kids. It looks like
D-Bud. You got kids. They look like when you try to take pictures with your kids.
That's what they look like.
We want nothing to do with this.
This one isn't bad, huh?
The fountain and the bag?
The body language.
They all look like they're so tight.
They're such good friends.
I think everybody just immediately looks at Rule.
So it kind of sets the tone because he's just like, why am I here?
Frank looks cool.
Yeah, and behind Rule, too.
I mean, Artie Smith looks like a corpse.
Is he alive? Oh, Artie's locked in.? Frank looks cool. Yeah, and behind Rule, too. I mean, Artie Smith looks like a corpse. Is he alive?
Oh, Artie's locked in.
Artie's locked in.
Ron Rivera looks sweet.
Is that Hackett?
Yeah, we should have known Rule and Hackett were going to get fired based on what they were wearing in this.
Tomlin looks awesome.
McVay looks really cool.
Like, McVay.
How about McDermott?
McDermott with the glasses on.
That's a good look.
McDaniel's smiling against him.
Who's back there getting blocked by right over Shanahan's right shoulder?
Who's behind him?
Who has his head down?
Eberflus?
Is that Cliff?
I don't see MCDC in this photo.
It might be Cliff back there.
I think MCDC's behind.
Sirianni back.
Cliff's looking down.
You can see.
He's looking down.
Next to O'Connell.
How about Cliff getting top row dead center?
Howdy, baby Cliff.
Dable is burnt to a crisp.
Yeah.
Wow.
Oh, yeah.
He's in trouble.
Behind Salah.
He's in trouble.
Who's behind Vrabel?
It has to be MCDC.
Yeah.
He's big.
That would have to be.
Oh, yeah.
Back left.
Sirianni.
He's out to lunch over there.
Sirianni just wants to fucking watch him film and compete.
Yeah.
What are we doing?
How about Doug Peterson not even knowing at that moment right there?
He's like, hey, Frank, wait till you fucking see what I do with the Jaguars.
This team's really good.
They spent a bunch of money.
Frank's like, wait till you see what I do with the stinking Colts.
All right. Hey, good work this season, all of you. Hell, do. With the stinking coats. All right.
Hey, good work this season, all of you.
Hell yeah.
Great year, boys.
Belichick wasn't in there.
No, he was not.
He was too busy scheming something up.
Let's talk about Grump.
Black Monday?
What's that?
Black Monday will be after the Super Bowl.
I'm just thinking about that.
What's that?
Black Monday.
That will be after the Super Bowl then if everyone had to wait.
So I think you could. So wait. So I think you could – so interesting.
I think you could – well, could you fire whenever?
An interim.
You're going to have to.
What if you have to fire someone for a cause or something?
You would have to, right?
So the interim job would be your audition process.
Like Steve Wilkes?
Yeah.
Jeff Saturday.
They're going to have to,
they're going to probably tweak it.
I just don't know how,
what kind of changes they can make.
I think everybody would have to abide by it.
That's the thing.
Everybody just assumes that everybody would cheat.
So yeah,
no,
no question.
Which they would.
I mean,
it would be tampering all over the place.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'd be like,
Hey,
I know you're preparing for biggest game of your life.
Just want to let you know,
three teams have reached out. We would go to all those three of those teams, right? Yep. Yep. Yep. Okay, cool. I know you're preparing for the biggest game of your life. Just want to let you know, three teams have reached out.
We would go to all three of those teams, right?
Yep, yep, yep.
Okay, cool.
I will send the text.
We are interested.
Yep.
Yep.
Certainly not talking until after the Super Bowl, for sure.
That's an interesting thing, but I think it puts them in a bad spot.
Like, Wink puts Wink in a bad spot.
This is his first year with this team.
This is the biggest time of the year.
Their defense is a massive piece of that.
Oh, sexy Dexy is what they call him, the Pilates guy.
They're saying he's one of the best football players on any field that he's ever walked on ever.
Like, this guy is going to go down.
Wink's got that team humming.
Let alone David O, who is, remember, he sold NFTs and stuff.
Yeah, he's a weirdo.
He says lit.
Yeah, all that stuff stuff he doesn't love football
he's a dog dude unreal wink is in an interesting position because i think if he sticks around with
dayball which he said i didn't do this as a stepping stone i did this because i wanted to
work with dayball pretty much it's been a success what do you think wink does dairies and why is
wings defense so much better than everybody else's season? I think it depends on what opportunities are there when their season is over.
But you got a great group of young guys.
I'm sure he likes day ball.
And the New York football giants,
that's not a bad organization to be attached to as far as markets,
as far as what they can pay.
Because this is scale as far as teams,
what assistant coaches can be paid too,
depending on what market and what team you're on.
So I think he stays around with that team.
And they just play.
He doesn't do a bunch of that stuff that he did in Baltimore,
but these guys are just on the same page.
These guys play hard.
They play Leonard Williams in the middle.
These dudes play hard.
Will he be able to implement the Baltimore stuff probably like next year
if they were to be around?
Because wasn't that Baltimore team, they were together for like seven, seven eight years almost so they were able to do whatever they wanted is
that true or not he could or he could just evolve too sometimes you just evolve and say all right
you know i'm just get rid of some mad stuff and do some things he still does his own thing like
he plays seven dbs a lot which nobody else really does um so he likes a lot of speed a lot of guys
um does he play all man still no i play, he mixes up, man, some fire zones, some zone.
And this last game, he's doing very game-plan specific stuff.
Like this last game against the Vikings, we'll get into it on everything DB.
Like it was obviously, hey, take away Justin Jefferson.
Take him away, make somebody else beat us,
and they executed that shit to a team.
You got a guy like Dexter Lawrence, too, in the middle.
He kind of took over that game, honestly.
Oh, yeah.
I watch highlights.
Yeah, good stats, but that pocket is tough when you're a quarterback
and you can only really read one side of the field, not because of coverage,
but because of these big motherfuckers in the middle of the pocket.
So that's tough.
You got some guys.
Hey, Zito, can you find that video NFL Films posted? It's on our
Instagram as well.
Dexter is telling
the offensive lineman number 56
you can't be hogging me all day.
You signed up for this.
You signed up for this.
Yeah, it was hilarious
shit talk. Just very subtle,
relaxing, and after they won,
he seems like a perfect fucking teammate, too.
And then one of his teammates actually says to him,
you're the best player I've ever played under you.
Tibido.
Yeah, Tibido.
Tibido was like, put him over.
Young guy, obviously.
That's a great person to have in the locker room with him.
The Giants might be a fucking team, huh?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Dan Jones, you keep Dan Jones playing like this with that defense and Wink?
Yeah.
Are you upset because Wink turned down the Colts offer?
Pat, couldn't there just be leverage, though, him making those comments?
One million percent.
We'll throw in a guitar.
Throw in a guitar, Wink.
Come on, everybody else is doing it,
just taking time away from preparing for the biggest game of the season
and doing interviews and Zoom calls with people from other cities
that you've never really met before.
Everybody else is doing it, Wink.
Come on.
It's powerful to say no, though. You know on. It's powerful to say no, though.
You know that.
It's powerful to say no.
What's with this guy?
Why don't they want to come even interview with us, and then they want to keep coming back to us?
It's maybe the best thing to do in long-term negotiation.
Yes, correct.
Not just with one company, by the way.
With multiple.
Keep things tight, you know?
multiple. Keep things tight. You rarely go to somebody's office
and they have, I don't know,
50 five-inch
fish plastered behind them.
You know what I mean?
Usually you walk in and it's one big fucking fish.
You can think about that.
If you can get to that point, that's
really the right place to do.
Say no to a lot more things. And business-wise,
it helps. Wink, though, I think is not doing it for business.
I think Wink's doing it because Wink loves the boys.
I think so, too.
And he also knows, I'm sure, like,
I'm going to be the highest-paid defensive coordinator next year anyway.
So, like, compensation-wise, do I want to go to fucking Indianapolis?
I don't know.
I think he's an East Coast guy.
I like living in the shadows of New York.
I don't want to fucking go deal with all this bullshit in Indianapolis.
He'll love it.
He'll love it out here.
We've got guitars, too, Wink.
Come on.
Yeah, you want one of Jimi Hendrix's Stratfords?
Maybe.
Maybe.
Come on out.
Come on out, Wink.
Plus, he knows if he doesn't get two Super Bowls in six years,
this city's going to burn at the stake of Jim Irsay.
Why?
Because those are the expectations.
I mean, the city was promised two bowls by
2030, and they are nowhere close.
I mean, they have a top five pick this year, so
things aren't going too well. We got time.
2030, bub? Do you have time?
How old are the quarterbacks in the AFC again?
Pat Mahomes is the oldest, and he's 27.
I don't know how much time he has.
Our roster, when they're trying hard
and playing for each other, and
working in the offseason,
and stuff like that. Good roster.
No quarterback.
At the top of the draft this year?
No.
C.J. Stroud. A lot of trades
up to one I've been seeing. Bears
with the Colts.
Still C.J. Stroud
at one.
Hey, what C.J. Stroup going to be a good NFL quarterback?
You think you had your eyes on him a long time.
On the record, you think Colts should trade up and get C.J. Stroup?
I don't know what on the record means.
I mean, obviously this is streamed live and it's put out there,
so it's on the record no matter whether you say it or not.
Yeah, I think C.J. Stroup is slanging, man.
Absolutely.
All right, let's go off the record.
Let's go off the record.
Off the record.
Under the table. So we're not on here, right? No, no, just off the record. Let's go off the record. Off the record. Under the table.
No, no, just off the record on the stream.
Can't be held against us.
Off the record, on the record.
That dude can sling it.
Will he be an NFL guy, though?
I hope.
I don't know.
He looks like it.
I think so.
I mean, what we saw in that frickin' semifinal game was like, yep, give me that guy tomorrow.
Fuck it.
Yep.
Colts are in a position to really turn it around.
Got a lot of pro bowlers.
A lot of good players.
Or they just keep tanking.
Look at Jags.
Jags, Bengals, look where they were three, four years ago.
Bingo.
Yeah.
Is there a burrow?
Did anyone throw 60 touchdowns this year and win the Heisman?
Funny thing about that is Stetson Bennett is potentially.
Actually, last person to do that.
When will he be drafted?
Mack Jones.
Is it New England?
No, not a fucking New England Patriot.
Yeah, yeah, Mack Jones.
No.
But he was the number one overall.
Fucking, you're the backup.
Bill Zappi.
Bill Zappi.
He did throw a 65.
With Liberty?
Who is it with Liberty?
Western Kentucky.
There it is. Hilltoppers. That's right. He's still undefei. He did throw a 65. With Liberty? Who is it with Liberty? Western Kentucky. There it is.
Hilltoppers.
That's right.
That's right.
He's still undefeated.
He's out of Eastern Kentucky.
Trade him to the Colts.
Hilltoppers in Western Kentucky.
You nailed it.
All right, good.
Still got it.
Bowling Green, Kentucky.
That's where it is.
That's a dry county I heard, Bowling Green.
Yikes.
Is it?
I think so, yeah.
They drink heavily there.
I know that.
Every dry county I've been to, there's a reason.
It's because all the people inside of it hammer.
Riff bags.
Hammer.
John Daly's.
That was amazing.
John Daly's hometown in Arkansas.
Dry county.
Dry town.
But you go into any of their garages, there is 8,000 to 9, thousand miller lights available everybody's house has all
the beer i mean no liquor can't buy it anywhere you gotta go out of town to buy it and come back
come back yeah yeah pretty wild it exists in america yeah
indiana you weren't able to buy a cold beer on Sunday.
Yeah.
And you still can't buy it, what, before noon on Sundays now?
Weren't able to buy beer at all on Sundays.
But you can't on a Friday night.
There's no happy hour.
Yes, you can.
Yes, you can.
No happy hour allowed.
In a lot of states.
Really?
No happy hour?
Yeah, Masters, no happy hour.
Too many people were drinking and driving.
Pennsylvania, big time happy hours. Yeah,. Too many people were drinking and driving. Pennsylvania, big time happy hour.
Yeah, because we're good at drinking and driving.
Nobody is good at drinking and driving.
You guys were drinking and fucking driving.
Nobody is good at driving.
That's why there's Drizzly now.
Promo code WOD.
You can get $5 off.
And Uber.
And Lyft.
And any other thing that was not available, maybe.
Designated drivers, Connor.
Thank you.
Yeah, Connor.
I never did it before, so I figured, you know, I might as well start.
To be clear, my car was out and about the evening I was arrested.
I was walking home.
I was not going to drive.
That's genius.
I'm a big anti-trunk driver.
Can always call AAA.
Always have been.
Can't do it.
It scares the shit out of me. We'd go off it from anywhere. Yeah, we're walking. Can always call AAA. Can't do it. Can't do it. It scares the shit.
It always scares the shit out of me.
We'd go off it from anywhere.
Yeah, we're walking.
Shoelace Express.
Well, Pittsburgh didn't have,
before Uber,
it was impossible
to get a cab in Pittsburgh.
Impossible.
Especially where we were hanging out.
A lot of jitneys.
Yeah, you had to just
Those were awesome.
It's impossible anywhere like that.
You just had to try to call
like a cab service, didn't you?
It was impossible, yeah.
And if they were assholes, if they could be, you had no shot.
Sorry, I had $100.
What?
You had no shot.
Not even that.
Just like, no, we're not sending a car.
Like that type of stuff.
Okay, thanks.
Did you guys have those vans in college that went around picking up drunk kids in bars?
We had a shuttle bus.
What?
Oh, yeah.
I used to drive those for community service.
Who was a part of it?
What do you mean?
What did you do? I was Uber before Uber. What? Oh, yeah. I used to drive those for community service. Who was a part of it? What do you mean? Why? What did you do?
I was Uber before Uber.
What was it a part of?
I forgot what I had to do it for.
But I had fun doing it.
Was it a job?
I got people home safe.
There you go.
Oh, yeah.
Thank you, baby.
Sounds good.
Way to do that.
Go Huskies.
What a hero.
Huskies turning it around.
Huskies, yep.
We had a drunk bus.
We had a drunk bus at West Virginia.
That's sweet.
And you had that monorail thing. The PRT. What do you mean a drunk bus we had a drunk bus at west virginia and you had that monorail
thing uh the prt what do you mean drunk bus who drove it who was it who people put it together
drunk guy i think i don't know university great question i never asked that was on me i should
have learned more about who was driving i just assumed with the way they were dressed and the
way the bus was presented this is a safe option i never really dove into the details just try to
have a good time. University ran it.
Yeah, I think West Virginia had it.
I think it was just a bus that happened probably in most cities at that particular time.
But since everybody in Morgantown at that particular time that was awake was probably very intoxicated,
it just became pseudo-drunk bus.
I think in the summer, that bus is still going.
Not as many people in town for it if that makes sense that day your buddies never ever end up at the
i think it was prison right wvu didn't have like so far a detention center like a jail around the
like they took you to a state prison i think yeah so you either got like a hundred dollar
you can get out of this little lobby area here right now, or you're going 45 minutes to an hour away.
That's a nightmare.
Yeah, can't do it.
Can't do it.
Got to walk.
In a college town, you got to build a shed or something to lock them up.
I think they had a little holdings.
There was like a little holding cell thing.
But if it was like a DUI or anything, I think you.
See, I'm taking you upstate.
As it should have been, by the way.
That was wild.
Uber is a game changer.
Oh, yeah.
Great idea.
So, dude, would you like to take back what you just said?
Please.
Anybody being a good drunk driver.
I was talking pre-Uber.
Okay.
Back in the 80s.
I was talking back in the days when we were fucking driving T-tops and smoking cigs.
What?
Sounds like you weren't alive.
Bunch of empties on the fucking passenger floor.
Oh, you're watching movies and talking about what you've seen on air.
Hanging out with Ben Affleck.
When I grew up living.
Living or what?
Okay.
All right, let's move along.
Anyways, Uber.
Yeah.
Right.
Uber's great.
Did you watch that Documented on a K series?
On Showtime with Joseph Gordon-Levitt.
Was that super awesome or super pumped?
Yeah, super pumped.
That was good.
Did you watch the whole thing?
I watched the first few episodes.
I think I got it.
I think I finished it. Yeah, I mean. That was good. Did you watch the whole thing? I watched the first few episodes. I think I got it. I think I finished it.
Yeah, I mean, I remember him.
He was very enthusiastic and seemed really good after it and tried to get that thing going.
Seemed to be the perfect person for what we needed, though.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, got to a good spot.
He took a lot of shrapnel, though.
He did.
I mean, he was getting it in the shins pretty heavily, I think.
He did.
Yeah, I didn't finish it either.
My big takeaway was, oh, this guy's a dickhead, but he's a necessary dickhead.
Be better for everybody.
That's right.
A tennis show on Netflix is interesting.
The first break?
First point?
Is it worth watching?
Break point.
Break point.
There it is.
Yeah, I would say it's worth watching, but knowing that in less than a month we get the
golf version, the full swing, it's kind of like, I'm not sure.
I haven't watched any of these
series. Yeah, I never watched
Formula One. Season 5, Drive to Survive is coming.
I forgot the date, but it's coming.
February 15th? I haven't seen them either.
I don't know if we'll watch them all at the
same time. Because it's coming out with the golf
same day, February 15th. Well, maybe I
got mixed up. Tennis is only five episodes.
That is the one thing. So you love
the Drive to Survive, the way it's shot? Is it like NFL film style? What is it? Tennis is only five episodes. That is the one thing. So you love the drive-by.
The way it's shot.
Is it like NFL film style?
What is it?
Yes.
Is that the tennis thing?
Yeah.
It's just interviewing a bunch of the tennis players.
So the first episode was Kregos.
It's all about Nick Kregos, the shit-talking tennis player.
And most of it is interviewing other tennis players about Kregos.
And then there's a couple back and forth with him, him doing training,
and then him just going about his business leading up to him winning the doubles Grand Slam at the Australian Open.
Do you get a chance to watch anything with 10 kids?
I have not seen the tennis thing, no.
I mean, I'll watch the golf thing when that comes out.
So what do you do? You just put on a phone, headphones, whenever you're out of place?
What do you mean? You just put it on the phone, headphones, whenever you're out of place? What do you mean?
Aren't you like –
I don't watch stuff.
I'm not a younger gen alpha like you.
I don't watch movies on my phone.
I watch my iPad.
So thank you for the way you went through the generations
because there is an alpha generation coming up.
Yeah.
AJ and I learned that at the same time.
And it piqued my interest as soon as I heard about the Alpha Generation.
Really.
And then AJ, from a, where were you?
You were in like a food.
A pantry that was like a Rite Aid, as they say.
A pantry, yeah.
That was the nicest pantry I've ever seen in my life.
40 feet away in his own little area.
Pat will never be a part of the alpha generation like echoes through
the house no no pop from him at all i obviously give big laugh conversation continues because it
was a very serious convo oh yeah about you know how do you reach the alpha gen that's the next
generation do you know that yeah they have the best fucking name out of all of us by far i know
so then there's beta coming after them that sucks for that whole generation oh my god it does it was like we're almost in it no because we're in a
period of weak men and those build strong men so that's true that's right cycle yeah but we're in
a period of good times yeah which build weak men that's what i mean so we don't do we want bad
times is what i'm saying you do it with some point because if you don't have bad times is what I'm saying. You do it with some people.
Because if you don't have bad times, they'll fucking take your fucking land.
And they're good.
Feels like you just went back to a ranch.
Yeah, you're right.
Pandemic was a very bad time.
Yeah.
These kids, these alpha kids had to deal with this.
They probably had to go to school and all that shit.
Yeah, but that's what they did. Being sheltered in place really helped those kids.
Yeah, that's the problem.
Now all they want to do is stay home and play their games.
Not if they live in Florida.
Hell yeah.
Thank you, governor.
Yeah, exactly.
Just saying.
Jesus.
They're fucking Jason Bourne as their governor.
That's the only reason it's different down there.
What a perfect thing for a tone dig to have happen on the program.
Hey, they're saying that that covid thing's gonna
fuck people up i could see how oh yeah big time imagine being like 13 14 years old oh yeah i said
setting kids back fucking like five to ten years just thinking about the amount of shit that you
learn from hanging out with other people and how you are set up as a personality and as a human
during that age like that's a crazy thing to have for them to have to
go let alone if you had if i had to be in my house i grew up in oh my god yeah like that is that would
have been i think you would have been all right though because i think it depends on the parents
too a lot of how it's a big part of it you know how they feel about what's going on outside because
you know i feel like my kids all right because we were, it was like, all right, this is what it is.
And then after, you know, months went by and kind of, okay, all right,
we're going to live.
Figure it out.
We're going to figure it out.
We're going to live.
We're going to hang out with this group and then we'll hang out with more
and then we'll do more.
But there was some people that was like.
Still.
Hey, yeah.
Oh yeah.
Right now.
Not going to visit this, not going to that,
which understandable is a scary time,
but it's definitely different ways
that um people uh handled it and then the kid the the babies though that were born during that time
like like newborns type shit because i you go from fucking zero to 18 months you haven't been
around anybody except you know six people now that's that that's that generation there's a new
doc coming out on or there is a doc out on Netflix called Babies.
And it was like, obviously with where me and my wife are right now, as soon as it popped up, I was like, oh, this thing's listening to me.
Cool.
Thank you.
I didn't know my TV was listening as well.
I knew my phone was.
I didn't know my TV was listening as well.
They all are.
Everything is.
They didn't even tell me congrats.
Tell us congrats, which kind of fucked up.
They just kind of dropped this thing in there.
But I guess this just so happened to have been happening right now it's a documentary
about what the babies go through for the first like 18 months or whatever and what they're
learning and what they're capturing and everything like that their reactions to things it's it's
fascinating that i'm gonna have to learn about all this stuff now you know that's like a parent thing
and i'm getting to like i'm so interested by it all now when I maybe wasn't before.
But to think that people had to do parenting whenever the kids weren't allowed, in some places, literally out of the house.
Yeah.
Come on, man.
Try to explain to those young kids, too, why you can't go out when they're certain.
Like, they don't understand.
Like, if they're two years old or 18 months, like, they don't really understand what the pandemic is.
And, hey, we can't see our friends.
You can't see grandparents and all that.'s a door right there i can just go
why do we build a door i can't what is the that's the point what is the is that just for optics are
we just in here forever this is our world now that's crazy i would like to go outside it is
i'm happy i didn't have to go through it with a child but to all the parents that did hey
good on you good batter good on you yeah even those high school kids too like opportunity wise I'm happy I didn't have to go through it with a child But to all the parents that did Good on ya
Even those high school kids too
Opportunity wise
Even just thinking about your situation
Think about if there was never a kicking camp
Or there was one and it got cancelled
Down in Florida
Whole different world
Trajectory of their lives changed
Kids in college, that just ruined your college experience
Probably going to hinder how you act for the rest of your life for sure and in the last chance you basketball
that was like a big thing is that like all of a sudden these juco kids who go for a second chance
now where they used to be drafting or recruiting like four kids from juco now they're recruiting
one max because of all the backup in the transfer portal like instead of recruiting kids from juco
or high school you can just go to the transfer portal because there are thousands of kids
in there because recruiting years got stacked.
And, I mean, Stetson was 25 years old.
He's not happy to hear.
I think he's going to be a successful NFL guy too, long term.
But an extra year because the COVID year, guys were playing college ball,
going to play 7-8.
People are still going to be riding.
There's one dude I saw.
Yeah, Oregon.
Eighth year.
Yeah.
Started 2016 or something.
That's ridiculous.
But that's obviously just football effects, not human effects,
which are much more important.
Speaking of much more important,
here's a conversation that's going to happen on this show in 10 minutes
that's going to be much more important than anything we just chatted about.
Hell, yeah.
Because we're going to be learning about secondary a little bit
like we've been able to do all season.
Now, before we get to a break here, because I know we all need it, I think
our bladders are dancing, all of ours.
Starting to see toes tapping. I'm starting
to move a little bit. AJ seemingly already
pissed underneath his desk. He always does.
I have the under desk cam. I saw it.
Nope.
Antonio Brown, too?
This guy's awesome.
This guy's amazing.
So is that a city in Pittsburgh?
Gibsonia?
Yeah.
Township.
Township?
They're about to revoke it.
Because there's high schools in there.
He just wanted to document where this happened or what.
I think it's a well.
It's like a very, it's a yup area, I think.
Old video, too.
He was having fun.
Always is.
I'll say.
Let's get to him, a break He said he got hacked
I bet
By Johnny Sims
He did
I just saw that
We apologize to all parties involved
If there was a hacking situation
Even that elephant
That was actually him
Yeah
There's a lot of videos
With Antonio Brown's dick on the internet all of a sudden.
Yep.
By design.
I do think there's something about that, that like whenever you click on something,
if it's kind of like, hey, Antonio Brown's trending.
Mm-hmm.
And you're like, all right, what happened here?
You know, maybe he gave back.
Maybe it's like, you know, because Antonio Brown.
He ain't giving back.
I don't know, but it's Antonio Brown.
I'm very fascinated by Antonio Brown because he was so good at football. He was. President of Donda.
So good at football.
So everything else, obviously.
Yeah, of course. Devastating legacy. So I'll
click on his name and then
it's just his penis is right staring at me.
And I
dressed up as an elephant.
Did I know that was coming? He dressed up as an elephant? No. He dressed up as an elephant. Yeah. Did I know that was coming?
He dressed up as an elephant?
No.
He dressed up as Dong?
But how was I supposed to know that was coming?
Two big floppy ears.
It's not his fault either.
Antonio Brown, were you shocked when you saw his Dong when you clicked on it?
If he got hacked, it's not cool, okay, that that's happening.
Yeah, of course.
And that happened back in the day, and it was obviously terrible for everybody.
But just me as a user on a platform, I had no idea that a penis dressed up as an elephant was going to be on my feet as soon as I click on something.
And it's just going to happen.
Let's clean that up.
Let's clean it up.
Good morning, Pat.
How are you doing today?
I asked myself. Not bad.
What's going on in the world?
Oh, Antonio Brown's trending.
What did Antonio Brown do?
Boom.
Oh, 15 pictures and videos of Antonio Brown's dick is here.
What did he do last night?
Jeez Louise, I can't even poop.
Can we get out of here?
Ever since he told us that Ben Rothberger was going to be back another year,
I said I can't listen or tap on what this guy's doing.
That was with...
Don't be sad.
Cheech.
What's up, Cheech?
Danny boy, hustle hard.
Don't be sad.
That was the best part.
Don't be sad.
I know you're sad, Ben Rothberger.
I wonder how...
He had to make so much money on his cameo that two, three weeks...
Oh, yeah.
After that Jets thing, yeah. Danny boy, three weeks. Yeah, after that Jets thing.
Danny boy hustle hard.
We're talking Baumgartner numbers.
No, Baumgartner is a professional.
Is he still on there?
Is Baumgartner still on there?
Oh, yeah.
I'm sure he's killing it still.
He's the face of it.
We need one.
He was in a scandal the other day.
Baumgartner?
A lookalike, at least, with a police officer woman.
Police officer woman?
Yeah, kind of went viral.
Yeah, there is a Baumgartner lookalike.
We got a Baumgartner lookalike.
There's something going on down there in Tennessee.
In a police?
Yeah.
I didn't see it.
Yeah, you did.
I heard about it.
I don't know if you saw it or not.
Nick just sent me the elephant
video.
I mean, people are creative.
They're very creative.
That's real. That was Antonio Brown.
He went to Disney World and got that painted on his torso.
You think it was an upcharge from the little person at the kiosk?
I would assume so.
That's a lot of paint.
My kids are waiting in line next.
My kids want to get tiger stripes on their face after that.
Five gallon bucket.
People are creative.
People are creative.
That's his first reaction.
It is amazing the world we live in.
Let's keep living in it.
Hell yeah.
Let's do a potential it. Hell yeah! Alright, let's do a
potential giveaway.
Darius, I saw you warming up
before the show started. It appears as if you are
all the way dialed in. You go, D-Bot.
Would you like to take a few shots for the fine people that are
watching this program? Let's do it.
Okay, Darius.
Come on, D-Bot!
The host of the Man to Man podcast,
NFL matchups, and Everything DB,
which will be airing in six minutes on this here program.
Darius Butler will attempt to make a shot into any of the holes out there.
What?
If he does that, we will give 10 people $500.
Who retweet this video, say something nice to somebody,
and put their cash check in there so we can pay them officially on Cash App.
AJ, anything you say to Darius before he gives it a go for the fine people?
D-Bud does not need any help.
This first one's going in.
He knows it.
Here you go, D-Bud.
Let's go, D-Bud.
Oh, is that right?
Time it!
Oh!
We did learn.
He is dialed in.
He is dialed in.
This is what every shot has looked like all day today.
Before the show started, he was doing this, AJ.
We're talking close, make, close, make. He's dialed day today. Before the show started, he was doing this, AJ. We're talking close, make, close, make.
He's dialed in today.
Darius J. Butler noticed that it was an eighth of an inch low.
Oh, that was the one.
Look at Bill creeping.
Look at Bill.
Billy Pix has entered the Thunderdome.
See you, Bill.
Top left corner of the hole.
Hey, you still got footballs, too.
You still got footballs.
You made that shot. No, you're thinking about it too much. You shoot the ball like you a bill. Top left corner. Hey, you still got footballs too. You still got footballs. You made that shot.
No, you're thinking about it too much.
You shoot the ball like you did before.
Are you thinking about throwing a chest pass into the bucket?
No, no.
Dr. Pepper chest pass into the bucket?
I mean, the exit.
Hey, you can one bounce.
One bounce too, if you'd like.
It doesn't have to go straight in.
Oh, I thought you were going under the exit sign.
That is a hole.
That was tough.
Where are we going now?
Garbage can?
There's Jay Bogo
Got it. Oh
Bear in the dome he did it counts to oh
What's it was right between the two right in between two right one was a little bit short one was a little bit long Oh is butler with that that was the module was the
tip i don't think we can make that doesn't count you imagine you wouldn't want that
make sure you calculate the thing i'm better than that you're right we got a dorsal fin football
last time it was thrown and gash was taken out of the wall for 15 people to win $500. Darius J.
Butler with the dorsal fin.
Greatest
dorsal fin thrower of all time.
I don't know if it was calibrated correctly.
It was calibrated correctly.
It wasn't
on time.
All right.
Yeah.
I think it's a movement. that's the whatever you that's the difference yeah
all right you'll have another opportunity yeah can't wait to see it incredible attempts though
yeah i think you still should have shot the basketball yeah because you were dialed in your
chest pass i mean no it's just but he just introduced a new one i think that's what i
mean on the last one no it's a smart idea wow i think it's just – But he just introduced a new one, I think. That's what I mean, on the last one. No, it's a smart idea.
Wow.
I think it's a smart idea to introduce a new way to win.
That's right.
A one bouncer into the garbage can would be an impressive shot
and I think worthy of a giveaway.
Absolutely.
And he knew he was going to have another opportunity the next hour.
Yep.
Let's go, Ferris.
Come on, D-Bot.
After everything, something's right.
Yeah, yeah.
Anything to say to him, like halftime speech to get ready for the next time?
AJ, you should sit on and think about?
Me?
Absolutely not.
We heard Peyton.
Peyton said he never made a halftime adjustment in 18 years.
So D-Bud needs to know.
That's bullshit.
That's what I say.
Two Super Bowls.
Thank you.
That's fucking bullshit, Peyton.
Because I done played against Zach in the second quarter and played against him in the third.
And I had the red dot on me in the third.
So I know you've made some motherfucking adjustments.
Oh, so he's probably assuming that that's not an adjustment.
You make an adjustment literally every single play.
Is that what you think he's thinking?
No, I do wonder.
I think how he views adjustments
are probably different than other people view adjustments.
True, yeah.
Like him seeing you and you being the red dot,
he probably thought, oh, I can get hot here.
And he did, and he's like, well.
That fourth and two game
at Lucas Oil.
Yeah. First half, we had them.
You know, had them. That third, that next
half, they came out buzzing.
So maybe, I don't know, maybe it was
just the fucking orange slices.
And then taking a piss. I find it hard
that he's never been, like, went up to Reggie and was like,
hey, instead of running it this way at halftime,
let's run it this way for the second half.
I assume it's happening at halftime, but I think
what's probably also happening is like every series
they were doing. Like I think
that's the type of offense they were running where
they were calling plays at the line, you know, so I think
you don't have to wait. They don't wait till halftime
to make adjustments. He makes it instant in the
moment Peyton's adjusting. And I think he just
assumes that's how it is everywhere.
How do you feel about it, AJ? How'd you feel about halftime adjustments?
Never really too much. You could do, I just try to get in there and take a leak before the coach
started speaking and get a couple oranges. But yeah, I mean, you could change little things,
but I think it's true. Like when something's messed up, you get on the sidelines and you
fix it right there. At least you attempt to. You don't really have to wait till halftime.
I used to make a lot of adjustments at halftime.
Got that full field again.
Just like I thought Meyer was going to do the other night.
Man.
Because he needed it.
I've never seen somebody need halftime kicks more than that guy.
Because there's been games where I needed it.
Where like, first one, not good.
Oh, the wind must have done something different here.
So I'm using halftime as like, all right, I got to figure it.
Like, I'm making adjustments.
No, like I'm just trying to learn the fucking thing so that's what i thought maher was gonna do at
halftime i thought because he clearly was just like leaving it wide open tough and then he came
back and fucking closed one and i'm like all right halftime this guy will get it figured out yeah he
missed the next one after that and no thought to move the ball to the middle though there's just
never yeah i don't know what that deal is.
I remember whenever that rule was made, the 33-yard extra point.
Yeah.
The conversation was, where are you going to do the extra point from?
And they had stats and analytics for Vinny and his career,
how he was on each hash and in the middle and stuff like that.
But he rarely kicked from the middle ever.
Because in the NFL, like, especially with the way Peyton was running the offense and their whole thing,
and Tom, they were on hashes pretty much all the time.
Super old kicks.
Middle is a weird place to kind of kick from if you're on a hash all the time.
So his stats from the middle were nowhere near it.
And I remember us having a convo with a couple people
and then just quickly being like, no, we're going from the fucking middle.
What are we even?
You pull a little bit, you push a little bit. and i think i had a little bit more say in that
because i was a kicker and it was like middle you can miss both what you can miss a little left you
can miss a little right it's like you have a much wider option there but there's some guys whose
miss is always a push that seems easier like i guess the non-kickers what the middle yeah
well prater prater talked about right
That one day
He just started kicking it
And it was
Started fading a little bit
It was just fading
So he's like okay
I guess I'm just kicking fades
We're gonna move the extra point
Over to the left half
And I'm just gonna kick
The fuck out of it
Yeah
Yeah so I think
I think the middle
Made sense
But also I think
A lot of people are scared to do it
Because you don't kick
From the middle often
Right
But if you kick from the middle
Every extra point
All of a sudden
You're kicking
From the middle often A lot. But if you kick from the middle every extra point, all of a sudden you're kicking.
From the middle often.
A lot.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Vinny was fucking unbelievable.
That guy's 47 years old.
Almost going with it.
Perfect season.
We missed one in Tennessee.
Should have had a perfect year.
That's the only one.
I think Gary Anderson did it during regular season for the Vikings, I think.
We should have had it.
What's the threshold? Do you have to make like 25, 30 to get that?
Yeah, probably 25 plus, I'd assume.
What do you think?
That seems like enough.
Yeah.
25, 25?
It's a good season.
Vinny was hitting like fucking 50 yarders too.
Yeah.
Like 48 yarders, 47 yarders.
We see a lot of these like 35 yarders.
You see a guy go four for four long a 38 or whatever.
38 is considered a rather chip shot for NFL guys.
Vinny was having like fucking 49 yards every week.
Like 49, 51, 52.
I'm like, this dude's old too.
Like he's fucking murdering.
I bet he could kick a 75 yarder now by the looks of him.
Yeah.
I wonder if that's what he's doing.
Hey, congrats to Vinny, by the way.
He's on the FanDuel team.
Here you go, Vinny. I had a little bit of a heads doing. Hey, congrats to Vinny, by the way. He's on the FanDuel team.
I had a little bit of a heads up whenever they were shooting that it was taking place, but I'm excited about that.
Him and Gronk, he was training Gronk to
kick a kick of destiny
live during the Super Bowl commercial.
Rob Gronkowski coming out of retirement to kick a
field goal to win
$10 million in bets for people
that are on FanDuel. Vinatieri's
training him. Is Gonk in there in the
vinatari gym he must be in the commercial yeah nice little kicking in arizona is it going to
be on the field in arizona or somewhere else running live i don't know that's a great question
how far is the queue yeah rihanna's holding was the holding it oh wow she's singing
she's gonna that's to be a banger.
Unbelievable.
It's going to be unbelievable.
No, A$AP Rocky.
I'm so pumped.
A$AP Rocky.
Posner will be holding it for her.
I hope he is.
Need his positivity out there for the kick of destiny for Gronk.
Positivity.
Settle down.
Shut the fuck up and kick the ball.
That's what Posner would say.
He wanted to have a moment with that.
I like Posner.
I'm just telling you what I heard.
No, you don't.
I was there.
You got designer shades to hide your faces.
You're cooler than me.
Is that a little wholesome you like, Posner?
A little bit.
I hate Posner.
I think he stinks.
I've been holding that in.
I'm glad I fucking didn't go to the ESPN party.
I would have been pissed if I would have got there.
Hey, we got a special surprise.
Mike Posner is performing.
I would have fucking walked home.
Posner performed, like, maybe within a stone's throw of my apartment in college.
Free concert, you know, my sophomore year.
I said, fuck it, I'm not going.
I stayed in my apartment.
You gave him no opportunity.
You didn't even give the guy a chance.
I heard the whole thing.
I said, oh, yeah, all these songs fucking stink.
I'm glad I didn't go stand over there.
What's this guy doing?
No disrespect.
What?
A beat that is.
I'm taking it.
I'm taking it.
Thank you, AJ.
AJ speaking for us. Yeah, AJ. AJ speaking for Prozner.
Yeah, great.
I wasn't there either, so I can't say anything.
Foxy, what's his deal, dude?
Ty wasn't there.
If Ty was there, it would have completely changed his mind.
That's how good the performance is.
I saw video footage.
You saw Bruce's performance.
Yeah, that was awesome.
I wish I would have been there for that for sure.
But, oh, yeah, same Posner.
Yep.
I mean, you give me $100, I might go.
Maybe.
Oh, you're getting paid to go to this thing?
Well, that's the only way you're getting me through the doors.
It's a gig for Ty.
Yeah, exactly.
Come on.
You want me to act like I enjoy it?
Give me $1,000 cash, and I'll gladly, you know,
bop my head up and down.
Hey, your restraint is fantastic because we've talked about Posner a lot.
Oh, I know.
I know.
Today was the day.
Yeah, I just said, fuck it.
I'm tired of acting like I like Posner because I don't.
I like Posner.
I'd like Posner to know that there's none of that in there.
AJ likes him.
Foxy loves him.
I like him.
I shouldn't say because I don't know the man.
Oh, you can't back up now. No, no, no. I can't fucking stand his music. That's fair. I like them. I shouldn't say because I don't know the man. Oh, you can't back up
No, no, no.
I can't fucking
stand his music.
That's fair.
Music's good.
Is it?
Subjected.
Is it?
I couldn't name you
a song outside of
fucking Ibiza
and the other one
cooler than me.
I couldn't.
Ibiza's awesome.
You don't know
Bury Me in Detroit?
I don't.
It's a banger.
I bet. What about Move On? He I don't. It's a banger. I bet.
What about Move On?
He went to Duke.
He's from Detroit.
No, that's fucking Mike Studd.
Yeah, I thought it was Kanye.
Duke?
Who went to Duke?
Mike Studd, dude.
This is unbelievable.
I'm pulling up his top.
Poser went to Duke.
McLemore.
Did he really?
McLemore?
They both went to Duke?
He was signed by Jay-Z.
He was signed by Jay-Z, right?
Who, Poser?
Yeah.
How long after that did he cut his ass?
Well, two months.
Listen.
All right, so I took a pill and a Beezer.
Obviously, Beezer's a banger.
Huh?
Yes, that is a banger.
I said that is a banger.
Okay.
Not everybody has a banger that could touch that song, right?
I mean, I wouldn't go that far.
Really? 20 off the top of my head. That's a banger that could touch that song, right? I mean, I wouldn't go that far, but 20 off the top of my head.
It's a banger.
It is a banger.
No two ways about it.
And we did say at the concert, if he would have played Ibiza.
Eight times.
It's not fucking levels.
Well, Avicii is a different level.
R.I.P. maybe.
Cooler than me.
Cooler than me featuring Big Sean.
Two songs. That.I.P. maybe. Cooler Than Me. Cooler Than Me featuring Big Sean. Two songs.
That's three songs together here.
I don't particularly think Cooler Than Me is a good song.
I know it.
I've heard it.
I wouldn't say it's a banger by any stretch of the imagination.
Amen.
All right.
Let's get to a break.
Sorry about that, Poe's in there, man.
Again, no disrespect, Poe's.
Good list.
As a man, I'm sure you're...
Actually, I love his Instagram.
He actually has...
You hate all his music, right?
Yeah.
So he has a song called
He Can Write a Song, though.
He can write a good song.
That's one of his songs.
Make you fall in love.
Yeah, I mean, he used it and cool it to me.
I get it.
It's awesome.
Hey, Posner, got bit by a rattlesnake.
You didn't see it
I did see that
He almost died
I know
Walking across the country
Like Forrest Gump
That was cool
Did he suck the venom out?
How'd he live?
Peed on it
He went to the hospital
Oh
Yeah
He's a sax player
Yeah
Lee Corso
Lee
Oh Lee Corso got it out?
Alright
Yeah
I think he climbed Everest once too
Yeah
Thanks Lee
Anyone ever did Wim Hof
With Steve Weatherford who we all know?
Damn right, Jack.
He didn't climb Everest.
He did.
He did, Tony.
Thank you, Tony.
He did.
Yeah, he did.
He did.
I watched a documentary on that.
He ain't climbing Everest.
What'd you just say?
Kill a Manjaro.
He climbed that as well.
I think he climbed all the seven.
I thought he said killed Denardo.
I thought you said he killed Denardo.
Yeah. Don't throw that out there.
I was about to say, that's a job turkey situation.
Killed DiNardo.
Stopped to me.
It's a new one?
Yeah, I was going to say.
It's a new DiNardo piece?
I've seen this one before.
It looks like a Sith Lord.
Hey, Joe.
Rest in peace, Joe.
Thank you for what you did.
44 degrees.
Thank you, Joe. This is one of Joe. Thank you for what you did. 44 degrees. Thank you, Joe.
This is one of those days that he probably told AQ,
probably don't go golf today.
And then maybe that storm broke in the hills of Pittsburgh,
and AQ didn't get a chance to golf on a Wednesday
because DiNardo was a little bit off trying to save him
from getting electrocuted by lightning.
Boo-hoo.
This guy's the best that ever did it.
Was DiNardo the one in the elephant picture that Nick sent me?
All right.
Let's get to a break.
Probably.
I wouldn't be surprised.
Yeah.
He's reading the Doppler in heaven as we speak.
He is a Doppler.
Oh, yeah.
He had the Doppler on his mouse pad.
Yep.
Yeah.
Beast.
That's because that's when he first started marketing it.
Those are his mouse pads.
He was selling them.
50 cents.
When he moves his hand over, doesn't the Doppler move?
Yeah.
He created the Doppler.
I apologize.
Apparently, he did make it to the top.
Nice you, Joe.
Was he carried?
No, he didn't.
Yeah, dude.
It's Mike fucking Posner.
Did he really?
Yes.
He was with Steve Weatherford, a Wim Hof.
They were sitting in frozen lakes together.
He trained for a long time.
Yeah, I think it was part of the whole walking across the country thing.
Well, he should have made a song about it.
I think he has a whole album.
Those Sherpas don't get enough credit.
I just want that to be known.
They just run up and down that thing all year.
They haul everything.
They save a lot of people, too.
Yeah.
You watch The Doc?
Yeah.
What was it called?
Jake Gyllenhaal climbs Everest.
Yeah, it's called Everest.
All right.
Good movie.
That's what this segment has done literally every single week.
What?
Started out great.
Yeah, top tier.
Oh, my God.
The only way you can go is don from here pal sorry about it
long season what a tough way to start this whole thing out expectations are going to be high and
what do you do each week just came in banger after banger after banger after banger right
shout out to seamus and drew mcintyre right birch i don't know if danny's with him
it is now time for Everything DB with Darius Buck.
Danny Boy!
Let's go.
Hey, you made us smarter this year and better this year.
We appreciate you for that.
Thank you, D-Boy.
Appreciate you guys.
Also, all pro teams going to be needed from you Super Bowl week.
Oh, okay.
That'll give me enough time.
Yep.
Give me enough time.
A couple weeks.
Are you judging on the season or the whole year?
I think it's all year.
Like playoffs include? That's not fair. Why couple weeks. Are you judging on the season or the whole year? I think it's all year. Like, playoffs include?
That's not fair.
Why not?
What do you mean?
Most important football.
I don't know.
A guy like Patrick Sertain.
Oh, yeah.
Jack Jones.
A lot of great players out there that may be on shitty teams.
Okay, so we'll have two different ones.
Minka.
Okay.
Because AQ's got to do this as well.
Right.
Cool. Chuck Pagano's got to do this as well Right Cool
Chuck Pagano's got to do this as well
AJ's doing it
Yep
I'm going to do it
What are you doing?
There's Chuck doing it
Chuck's doing the whole team
Oh okay
And he is picking his coaches too
Coaches
Whole thing
Full staff
Offense coordinator
Defense coordinator
All the way to training
That's good
First string, second string for both of those
Head trainer
So you got teams?
Me? You doing doing the teams?
Yeah, I think so.
I'm going five deep, though.
No big deal.
Nice.
I like it.
Yeah, well, that's because I don't want to judge anybody.
Tough years for some people, but they did great.
Yeah?
Tough situation is not fantastic.
It's not easy to be as good.
You know what I mean?
It's going to be tough to put together your team.
It is.
It is.
But, you know, no excuses, no explanations.
Yeah. Like Stonehouse.
Showed up, you fucking played, you balled.
Sauce Gardner, he'll be on one of the all-pro teams.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Team's a little bit of a team.
Congrats to Sauce.
You did it, Sauce.
All right, Sauce.
AJ, do you want to give away somebody that maybe made your all-pro team?
AJ's all-pro team?
I don't have to give anyone away.
I think everybody knows how big a fan of Fred Warner I am.
Whoa, congratulations.
Fred Warner.
Congrats, Minka.
A lot of great ones, though.
Minka had a great year.
Jack Jones.
Let's dive into it, everything DB.
Let's get to it.
From wild card weekend, obviously this was one of the best games of the weekend.
Tell of two halves for this quarterback, Trevor Lawrence.
Kind of came into his own, though, in the second half.
Four interceptions, four touchdowns.
This is one of those first half interceptions.
One of Asante Samuel Jr.'s three first half interceptions, which was crazy.
So a lot of their passing game in the first half was a lot of in-breaking routes.
And obviously the team had to beat on the first one, I believe,
was the tip pass across the middle.
Twice.
Asante jumped this dig route that we're going to see from the point to beat his tight end.
And then it was another crossing route that Asante Samuel picked off from a cover to flat defender.
Now, this is a great, this is a quarters coverage.
From this bunch route, you're going to get a dig.
A lot of in-breaking routes, and Asante Samuel Jr. is all over.
His backside safety actually almost gets a hand on it, too.
But Trevor Lawrence wasn't scared.
He was making his reads.
He was believing his reads, stepping into it and making his throws.
You'll see it right here.
So right now, see Christian Kirk going across the field.
He's already anticipating his break with outside leverage.
Unbelievable play by this young second- corner sante samuel jr
boom great job aggressive at the break point oh yeah what a catch unbelievable catch great
ball skills just like his pops um once again an unbelievable play by sante samuel jr this is and
this is a big this is a tight end too so that's a big body from a smaller corner to beat him to that spot that's a
very very uh impressive play good instincts huh great brought up in the game understands the goals
trevor lawrence so you said confidence yeah so running back to the beginning so when you see
young quarterback and it's something that as a db especially when i move to safety you always the
first thing i would look at is quarterbacks and with all these guys that are left they all basically read the entire field he starts his full progression he
goes from the left and he goes all the way back to the right in rhythm steps into it and makes
a throw obviously this corner makes an incredible play right here but you keep repeating this
process you see him full full field scan good throw and just a unbelievable play from the DB
oh that's a that's a gutsy throw isn't it yeah to really squeeze in that window yeah Full field scan, good throw, and just an unbelievable play from the DB.
That's a gutsy throw, isn't it?
He's trying to really squeeze in that window.
Yeah.
And you trust your tight end.
You trust your big body to beat whoever that DB is to that spot.
You just throw it to him. A lot of the times you're throwing his timing, you're throwing it to a spot.
So that's what he did there.
So we don't think this is a shit ball here from Trevor.
I don't think so.
I think, like AJ just mentioned, it's definitely a risk,
but it's going to be a lot of risky balls.
It's going to be a lot of tight coverage.
That's the men's league.
How come this guy keeps saying that he's overthrowing balls?
Yeah, I don't know.
That's AQ, not you, AQ.
Mr. Crossing Rock.
Yeah, AQ says he misses three yards.
This guy's missing.
That's what AQ's saying.
A lot of guys do, right?
It's a bad miss.
Yeah, it was a bad miss, but, you know, that happens.
It happens to the best of them.
We saw Mahomes with a bad miss a few weeks ago going across his body.
So, young kid, second year, playoffs, like big time.
And then we'll get to it, how he bounced back.
So, this is actually 28 seconds left in the second quarter.
So, this is right before the half where they obviously needed a touchdown here.
Christian Kirk obviously made a lot of noise in his offseason when he signed his deal and balled out.
He's going to be double.
So he's going to take two guys.
And then, A.J., I'm sure, A.J., you've seen this route a ton.
A guy coming at the middle linebacker and then going up the field.
So that's what Evan Ingram does at this point.
He's had a hell of a year, too.
After, you know, kind of flaming out early on, he's found his home here.
He comes running at the middle linebacker,
and he just goes straight up the field.
Once again, confidence in his read, accurate throw, bing, bing.
And then Christian Kirk, who was the key to this defensive secondary,
he takes two guys, which makes that read even cleaner for Trevor Lawrence.
Was it at this point you kind of started pooping your pants a little bit
as the Chargers swam?
You know what?
This was huge.
This was big because, you know, momentum.
And I think Jacksonville got the ball back in the second half as well.
And if you were watching the game, everything was going.
It was kind of like that Vikings game when they were up on the coast.
Like everything was – it was a muff punt.
Like everything was just going wrong.
And you get into halftime and you say, all right, you know, they played their best ball.
We played our shittiest ball.
Let's get back to it.
So, when you have a touchdown like this going into the half, this is huge.
Dude, he thought he had it.
Yeah, he's a zone dropper.
So, he's there.
And that's a good route.
That route is designed for him to be patient, run at the middle linebacker, and then go straight up the field.
High ball, go up there and get it, big fella.
Going right back to the guy that he threw the interception on.
And now this play, it was a ton of plays you could have found.
But this one right here, I like this right here.
I like this right here.
This lets him know you got confidence.
You got confidence in what you see.
You're obviously prepared, and you're definitely not scared.
So he sees something from this defense.
He sees a look.
And we talk about it all the time.
When you put speed at three, when you put your,
especially when it's your best receiver,
you put your best receiver at three, that always impacts the defense.
Whatever coverage you're playing, it could be cover three, cover four,
cover two, whatever coverage that is,
that's going to be a problem when you have speed at three.
So he knows one of these DBs.
So on this instance, it's going to be Derwin James.
He's going to be locked in on Christian Kirk runningirk running this what he anticipates is a crossing route but he's going to run and
stop and hook up and zay jones from the slot is actually going to run this cross around as soon
as he's clear as the second level he's literally going to put his head down and just run to the
end zone and trevor lawrence makes this read but he makes this read pre-snap. When he's doing all this shit, he knows exactly what's coming right now.
Pause it right now.
Right now, Derwin,
he's going to stop and take Christian Kirk, and
this guy is literally just going to put his head down,
haul ass to the end zone,
and he's going to drop a dot on him.
Oh, shit. Oh, gorgeous.
Did you see him put his actual head down?
That's out of a move-off. Yeah, I got to go.
Because he sees shit.
It's nothing.
When he got this check at the line, when Trevor Lawrence check, check,
everyone knew in that office, hey, this is the one.
This is what we practiced for.
This is what we saw.
We got 13 at three.
He's going to eat up this backside safety, whatever it is.
I'm going to run like I'm running across and just stop.
And once again, we're in the alumni section, too.
This is where we alert shot early down.
And this is just, you know, dialed it up.
Doug Peterson dialed it up.
30-20.
Jeez.
You know, let me dig a little bit and then put that head back.
But that was, I mean, a great play.
They're fucking crushing it down there, dude.
Yeah, they're awesome.
I don't think anybody on earth expects them to go win it either.
No.
Like, even them.
So it's already been a successful season.
Off season's amazing.
Vibes are so high.
We can invest.
We can spend money.
We can build on this forever.
Yeah.
What a good time to be a Jacksonville Jaguar.
Also, knowing they have Calvin Ridley already next year, like this offense,
how much better it's going to be.
Yeah.
A lot of weapons, man. Shit, how much better it's going to be. Yeah, a lot of weapons.
ETN, obviously he ended the game.
AQ showed you guys that yesterday.
He's an unbelievable weapon.
You get some more depth there.
Continue to build across your offensive line.
It could be.
And Trevor is a guy.
He's a guy.
He's a dude.
They have one-year contracts too on this team,
so they will have money to spend.
It shows you how important, you know,
obviously we know coaching is important, but
like this guy could have easily,
if they stayed with Urban Meyer, they could have easily,
you know, this guy three years in, we could have been calling
the bus because of what was just going on
organizationally. But you gotta,
you know, you bring in Doug Peterson, he comes in
and it's in a damn divisional round going up
to Aaron. How do you feel about Doug and his visor?
Right? Does he have a visor?
Yeah, he's got a visor. His hair is good.
Oh, yeah.
Perfect for a Florida team.
Yep.
Trevor Lawrence also respects him because of his hair, he said.
He said that?
No.
But you could see him saying that.
Trevor said 20 of them were at Waffle House.
Yeah.
They made a reservation.
You got to go to Waffle House deep.
Good move.
Smart move, Trevor.
Yeah, can't go in there alone.
He'll get taken over.
Go to two, three people.
Brock Purdy. Now, this system,, kick it on their lawn. It'll get taken over. Go down to two, three people. Brock Purdy.
Now, this system, man, they got it rolling.
And Brock Purdy has it rolling, too.
He obviously does a lot of things improv with his feet, with athleticism.
But you run it back a little bit.
This is just a fake.
They're going to fake toss this thing.
Obviously, pre-snap motion as well with juice.
And fake toss it to a C-mat.
And you're going to get a crossing route from Dbo it's covered three on the back end but all these guys like i mean watch this
backside down safety how he reacts to this fake toss just just watch how long it takes him to
realize that it's a play action so pause it so now you got debo already passed so this is the
only player backside that can take this guy
because obviously this backside corner is taken by Brandon Ayoub, his deep route.
So by the time Brock Purdy, he just has to flip his hips
and throw this ball before this backside defender gets to him, which he does.
But it's not, you know, this is not one of those plays where it's like,
oh, my God, this is an amazing play.
Just a guy just doing his job.
The fake toss, the little pre-snap motion with juice in the backfield,
the fake toss to C-Mac.
Obviously, you see the influence that it had on the run defense.
And then you get the ball in the Debo hands, blocking his ass off downfield,
and then running back a little bit.
For this free safety, it's tough because you've got to make a decision.
Okay, do I go over the top and then just trust my linebacker to run Debo down
and tackle him from back here?
Or do I trust my corner as a corner coach for the corner?
You got to send it back inside at this point.
Where are you?
Where's your help?
Yeah, you got to send it back inside.
You got one, two, three guys that could potentially tackle him if you make him cut it back.
Young corner, rookie corner.
You got to win that matchup and at least force him to go back inside.
Because right now, when he gets the boundary, you're still getting blocked, getting held. You're him to go back inside because right now when he gets to boundary,
you're still getting blocked, getting held. You're going to get
held at DB. That's just going to happen.
DB coach just tell you, hey, just don't fucking let him hold
you. Different gear. And I mean, he
put it on the gear. Obviously, Debo's fully healthy.
But I mean, great play design and obviously
great execution and you put the ball in your playmaker's
hands. Hey, it all gets sucked
up, AJ.
That's what Christian McCaffrey will do for it.
And, I mean, their whole run game in general is just crazy.
That's a damn good safety, too.
Yeah, their own line and their run game feels like they're unbelievable at sucking up linebackers.
Look at that, man.
And a scheme.
Yeah.
Shanahan sucks up linebackers like there's no tomorrow.
All the innuendo.
What?
That's why AJ loves sharing.
I'm strictly saying.
Football.
Yeah.
I don't even know what you guys are talking about.
Look at that.
Brock, at least stopping and flipping his hips early and not floating.
Good for him.
Some guys might just keep floating and get almost,
they wouldn't really have their feet set to throw that.
And also, he goes this way, too.
Yeah, exactly.
He floats back almost, AJ.
He buys himself time, yeah.
It's nice.
It is.
Smart.
That's athlete space, spatial awareness.
I bet he played two or three, four sports growing up.
For sure.
For sure, for sure.
Running back all the way to the beginning, just watch this pre-snap.
I mean, it looks like nothing, but AJ would know better than I would.
All these little fucking movements and shit, it causes something,
some type of thinking, some type of communication for these linebackers.
Because you know something's coming.
Yeah.
You know something's coming every play.
You just don't know exactly which, like,
what movement you're going to get on this one.
So, yeah, are we going to have to change the line?
Are we going to have to full reset?
What are we going to do?
And then just every play they got you thinking.
Yeah.
And with how mobile he is, like, even if there was someone covering him,
he could probably still get around this D end, right?
You know what's interesting?
You guys know football better than me.
It almost feels like Shanahan's fishing right now.
With this guy, hey, pay attention to this guy.
He just gets him to fucking what?
He runs all the way over here, all the way to the back,
and then he's got everybody's attention, and then he goes this way.
Because if you talk to like AQ breaking down the Niners run game,
he's like wherever Juszczyk's going is normally where the point of contact is going to be.
Like such a good set, so much setting up for all of this shit that's taking place.
And they already got all the framework in there because film,
everybody knows they can run it.
Like they're set up forever now.
You got, and shit, they ran 450 yards plus, i think every start that brock purdy's head so that
fucking helps too so you got to try to stop the run game and they have a it's not like a fake
they like they run a toss off this play they ran a toss pass off this play and then like aj said
like flipping your hips making that throw you know it looks routine it looks easy but no he's trash
that's a part of it anybody Anybody can do what he's doing.
That's what people are saying. Oh, yeah.
I like him. I love him.
He's in a great situation, obviously,
but he's making plays. The
Elijah Williams touchdown, that was all him.
And this is a second-half touchdown, too, right?
So they probably set up the first half
with five or six of those plays and then just
save that one. Young boy, Lenore, out there
at corner, covered three. Once again, running a lot of zone coverage.
But he, and this title lock it too.
Good receiver, obviously.
Anticipating this in the deep third, open hips,
anticipating the break at the break point.
Get out of his break and then make the play on it.
Woo!
Great drop by that.
Great play.
Running back real quick.
That's a tough, tough play.
Whenever you're open at that corner position,
that's usually the route that you're actually okay giving up in that coverage.
Like a coach, okay, you know, that just beats the coverage.
It helps also.
Because you got everything here.
Yeah.
Greenlaw, that curl flat, you're right, D-Bot.
It helps also.
Running back, actually, got to get Fred Warner, got to get A.J.'s guy too.
Because if you want to get this play action and just watch,
let's watch Fred Warner first, and then we'll get up to Greenlaw,
and then we'll get up to the corner.
But just watch his reaction.
Play action, nope, not that.
Where's DK Metcalf?
He's not fooled.
Where's DK Metcalf?
Yeah, he's not fooled.
So fast.
I know where DK Metcalf lined up.
Where is he?
And he feels the alignment, too.
He can feel the alignment.
Aren't firing out.
So he's like, yep, pass.
Here we go.
Boom.
No wasted movement. Man. So good. like, yep, pass, here we go. Boom. No wasting movement.
Man.
So good.
He's already locked in.
Yeah.
Greenlaw, though.
Doesn't Greenlaw make that corner feel a lot?
Yeah.
Safe for being up high on this because he's underneath it.
He's going to force a high ball.
Yeah.
So if you just let it play, Pat, you'll see the same thing with him.
He gets a little jump up, but then he gets his width and his depth.
Yeah, right there.
That depth right there, he got to.
Man.
Yeah, and then a great job by the corner, obviously,
at the top of the route getting out of there efficiently
and then making a play on the ball.
See that burst by Greenlaw?
Geez.
When he decided to go vertical, that dude got into another gear.
All these dudes, man, are special in the second level.
All of them.
Honestly, they all could have been pro bowlers this year.
Damn.
So 17, is that how many yards that was?
17 yards down the field when he cut back?
Yeah, first and 10, right?
Yeah.
So this is the line of scrimmage.
So is that normal?
At what point do you think it's only a go?
Depends on the system.
So this system, you're running
some teams will run 14-yard comeback.
Some teams will run 18.
Some can fucking run them at 20-something, depending on who the quarterback is.
So, yeah, so this is a great job playing that break point
and knowing what offense you're playing and where those break points are,
you know, through that five to seven window,
and then you get to the intermediate, and then, all right,
you know at some point it's a go ball.
Yeah, like 18 probably there.
Once you go beyond that, you know, kind of
18, 20 yard range, now, okay,
we're running. Damn.
So much thinking.
I mean, it's reps too. It's more of a
field thing. You don't want to be thinking
when you're out there playing. It's a field, it's a rep,
it's a defense. That's why as a defense, when you're installing
these defenses, people say, oh, well,
why doesn't my defense just play more men this week or why don't they play more cover three
more fire like you got to rep that shit over and over and over and over again like you see
fred warner go up there but nope okay i know exactly where i'm going i know exactly where
i'm going to be attacked that's attack that's because it's repped over and over um and over
again i think the last defense a top and scoring defense and top in yards defense to win a Super Bowl was the Seahawks.
Their LOB defense in 2013, which once again ran a lot of the same coverages over and over again.
But they just repped it, repped it over and over and over again.
Bro, none of them ate at all.
No.
AJ, you see that?
They're fucking.
I know.
This is where they're at.
Yeah, watch.
Play action.
They run.
Kenneth Walker's a guy.
They run the line, though.
They feel the high hats.
High hats.
They didn't even move.
They're not fooled by the tight end coming back across the ball or anything.
Sometimes guys can get caught up in that and take a bad step.
Because that's supposed to be Metcalf right over the middle, right, probably?
Metcalf is going, yeah.
I mean, it's got to be demoralizing if you're the Seahawks
or you're facing this team.
You're like, man, these dudes just snap to it instantly.
They're reading our mail.
They're reading our mail.
They heard that
with a wow.
That last play, the Seahawks, they didn't realize
it wasn't a run until it was too late.
Exactly.
It was the complete opposite of that.
Jeez.
Walker's not happy.
So pissed. Give me the ball you be? Walker's not happy. Not happy. Not happy.
So pissed.
Give me the ball tonight.
We're respecting our fate.
Man, it wasn't even a single.
I think it's something between him and Gino.
Really?
Whoa.
Really?
He bought.
Sideline earlier in the season kind of going at it. You don't see that from rookies a lot.
Maybe it's a new league too, but rookies going to the quarterback.
Vince Wilford.
Look at this guy.
He knows what he's saying.
He ain't ever telling us though.
Yep.
That guy knows what he's saying.
He ain't ever telling us though.
It's all right, man.
Hey, listen.
Good mustache on that guy too.
Oh, yeah.
Wow.
He looks sweet.
Thank you for your service.
Thank you for your service.
Here we go.
Let's go.
Daniel Jones. Now, this is Slayton in the slot. Here we go. Let's go. Daniel Jones.
Now, this is Slayton in the slot.
Was this one Slayton?
Yeah.
Okay, Slayton in the slot.
He's going to be coming.
So, this is quarter, quarter, half.
So, it's going to be half coverage up top.
Oh, wait.
Is this?
Let me make sure.
Okay, yes.
There we go.
Run it back real quick, please.
So, quarter, quarter, half.
So, this is half field coverage up here, cover two, flat defender, deep half.
And then we got quarters down here.
Quarter safety, quarters, corner.
And they're going to end up after Matt Breida goes across in motion
with just one receiver backside.
As this quarter safety, he's going to be kind of the only one
that can pick up this crossing route from Darius Slayton.
And he's going to try, he's going to see it late,
try to twist and almost uh speed turn into it but he's going to run into the receiver and that's how
he comes wide open he kind of sees it late so right now boom he sees it and he tries to speed
turn but boom oh boy that's quarter quarter half Daniel Jones been making these type of throws
these type of reads another guy who shows you how important coaching is because the year that he's
having, obviously throwing the ball, but taking care of the ball, using his legs.
There's one drive in this game where I felt like they ran the ball like six,
seven times in a row.
One too many.
Yeah, one too many.
He was gassed.
But this is the playoffs.
Hey, look.
Ice it up.
Ice up some
You get it done
Whatever it takes to get this win
He played his ass off this week
They seemingly have a spirit about them
Yeah
They got some moxie
Yeah they do
They do have some moxie don't they
Whole team
I like it
They've taken on day balls
Including this guy
What a rebirth
Yeah
Yeah
Third and three right here
Expect them to be very active In the passing game again this week.
So this is cover three.
Third and three.
You got Saquon backside.
He's going to run everybody across this way and then just leak him out late,
kind of away from his original alignment.
You'll see, we always talk about who's relating to three.
He becomes the new number three.
Usually it's that middle linebacker.
He's trying to get a reroute, and it's too late at this point he's already out leveraged oh no ball in 26 his hands
and it's another you know it's so hard and it's tough it's tough hey james or you usually have
this in the red zone with kansas city chiefs they do this a lot but when you align that right side
and leak a back out to that opposite side man see those backers have to those backers have to banter the tight end in the back.
They both are like, okay, we got these guys.
They can create a lot of issues if they
come out slow and then they
the back crosses. If they come out
fast, it's cool.
It declares itself. But when that tight end goes
vertical, Kendrick's got to hang on him
a little bit. And then he's like, oh, it's too late.
Saquon's too fast first down. Think about how tired
he's got to be. This is a haul ass sprint. 33 ass 33 too so it's like you're trying to be tight coverage
staying on the field good play call great great play call if you see a tight copy too you'll see
how quick and how tough it is for kendrick's to try to pass that off you'll see the bind that he's
in right now he's back there you know he's back there but you're not really thinking about him much you think about what you got front side this is number three he's in. Because right now, he's back there. You know he's back there, but you're not really thinking about him much.
You're thinking about what you got front side.
This is number three.
He's already a little wide, so let me get to my work.
And then you get your hands on your work, and then it's like, oh, shit.
And that's the sticks, too.
Yep.
You're right.
Look at him talking.
See, they're trying to talk right now.
Hey, go, go, go, go.
Here we go.
Yeah.
Man.
So, Hicks trying to point it out and basically let him know, hey, I'm going to get to yours.
You got to get to that one.
Give us nightmares.
Too late. A little PTSD there, AJ?
Teams can mess with you, especially when they go three by one, offset the
back away. They can really mess with you if they know
that both backers have them.
Do they set the tight end
out a little so it takes them longer
to get in front of Kendricks' face?
That would actually get them in a better position to take Saquon, though.
Yeah, because that would
give Kendricks more width,
which would take longer for Saquon to get out.
But since, you know, Kendricks is trying to get, once again,
get on his work, his third and three.
Hey, let's make this play better.
Look at Saquon, too, D, but look at Saquon, though.
Like, he does, if he's impatient and he flies out to the flat,
Kendricks will see that.
I think he'll see it flash and it'll pop off.
But if you see, Saquon kind of pops up like it's a screen almost,
and then he goes and bursts through the line.
Patience, yep. Yeah, watch like
that little hop right there saved him because Kendrick's would have seen
him if he would have turned his shoulders and taken off right there.
Watch Hicks point like, hey.
Uh-oh. It's coming. Here it is. We talked
about this. Too late.
Boop.
Look at that pocket too. Yeah.
What a play design, huh
Brucey?
Dayball's in his lap. Beautiful. Oh, too. Yeah, the pocket. What a play design, huh, Brucey? Dayball's in his lap.
Beautiful.
Oh, okay.
Anyone at all, maybe Posner will play their Super Bowl play.
That would be terrible.
I got design changes.
Don't you be singing it.
I'm mocking his ass when I'm doing it.
That's why.
I'm calling me. That's why. I'm mocking his ass when I'm doing it.
That song stinks.
You know the words, though.
I know cooler than me.
Oh, shit.
The song's a heater.
Okay?
We're going to run into Posner.
We're going to run into him.
I hope we do.
We're on the record and off the record.
Where are we going to run into Posner?
I love Posner.
Love him.
Me too. Same here. I second that. Love Posner? I love Pozner. Love him. Me too.
Same here.
I second that.
Love Pozner.
Didn't get to go to a show, unfortunately.
Evan?
Third time's that.
Connor, go ahead.
I like the man.
You don't know the man.
I second that as well.
I do know the man.
Walked across the fucking country like Forrest Gump.
Climbed Everest.
You kidding me?
The medal this guy's got.
You were just reminded of all these things very recently, it sounds like.
Well, yeah, I didn't know him.
I had no idea.
I just thought, oh, this guy is just a guy who makes shitty-ass music.
But he's not.
He's not.
He's much more than that.
We like Michael Posner.
You guys like Mike Posner.
I like Mike and Michael.
True.
I'm cool with both of them.
Let's get back to it.
Last two plays of the game to seal the victory.
Once again, talking about it earlier.
Did a great job executing their alignment.
You see all these DBs on the field.
Another guy, Xavier McKinney, was the first-round pick for them.
Had an injury, bad injury this year off the field.
Got back and is playing good football.
Had a deep ball to Jefferson that he was in great position on. This is is good coverage on hawkinson running back a little bit this is third and eight
so to play before the last play of the game justin jefferson in the slot adori jackson follow him
another offseason signer for them follow him all around the field and he had help a lot of the time
but nice little reroute nice little quick jam offhand jam and what this also does for him is
it makes him it makes it easier for him to
keep maintaining his leverage outside leverage on justin jefferson because if he has this help
inside and justin jefferson somehow takes an outside release you've now eliminated all your
help in here so great job by him getting that stab being outside the uh safety i believe this is
julian love he's in position with the inside.
And then this guy, somebody's got to wear the hat, right? Somebody's got the tough down man coverage when you're doubling somebody.
So it's going to be a flop here. And he does a great job on this crossing route with KJ Osborne.
Ball's a little behind him, but, you know, it's going to happen. But he makes a great play.
Just hustle his ass off and playing his hands. Never looks back. Wasn't necessarily a phase,
but playing his hands late and getting his PBU to make it the fourth and eight.
So great job by them.
Hey, somebody else, this is what you're saying.
And when Chuck gets up here on Thursday
and he puts those game records up here,
you put 18 up there, you say, all right,
this guy can't beat us.
Somebody else has to beat us.
KJ Osborne, Adam Thielen, TJ Hawkinson,
somebody else got to beat us today. They won't be 18. And they executed. Osborne, Adam Thielen, T.J. Hawkinson. Somebody else has got to beat us today.
It won't be 18.
And they executed their game plan, I believe, to perfection.
DB, DB, DB, DB, DB, DB, DB.
Thibodeau.
DB size red.
Yeah.
Plays his ass off.
When you were saying teams like the Bengals from last year,
the Giants almost have that feel too.
Yep.
They could.
They could.
That's a great –
It's hard to get your hands on guys, right?
It is.
It is, especially when you're square.
We have two-way goals.
But when you got a guy like – this is almost like basketball.
If I know I got a double team coming, I just got to, you know,
take away a baseline.
It's much easier for me to play good defense if I just got to take away one side.
But when a guy got a two-way goal on you, it's like ISO at the top of the key.
That's a completely different ball game.
And Dory Jackson is a hell of an athlete, too.
So that's a great athlete to put on another athlete like Justin Jefferson.
And then that's a hell of a play.
You see his head.
If you go back a couple frames, it's a coaching point for DBs.
You're in this phase, especially running across the field, just play the hands.
Don't look back.
Start to fade.
Play the hands.
The receivers show you their hands.
And when that ball's behind them, you make that play. Bang. Great play, which makes it fourth down, which, you know, Kirk Cousins ended up checking down.
You got T.J. Hawkinson in the slot. You got Justin Jefferson. Now he's outside wide.
Once again, Adoree Jackson, outside leverage. Maintain his leverage early. There's never a doubt about what leverage he has.
He knows he's going to have inside help with Julian Love. So they were repping this a lot. And it's good when you're double teaming a guy.
I like to know how my guy on the other side of that leverage
is going to play it as well. So they played this great. You got the post safety,
man the coverage everywhere else. Man coverage here with Xavier McKinney on TJ Hikes
and he does a great job as well. Being physical, being sticky. Because if it's
space there and you give it to TJ,
it's a much higher possibility that he catches this and breaks this tackle.
But right there, he's getting tackled before he can even get both feet in the ground.
So great execution by everybody in the back end.
And then when you get to the tight copy,
KJ Osborne kind of comes open late with this crossing route,
but he'll never be able to get to him with Dexter, sexy Dexy. What's the right
answer? Here?
Here?
I mean, the right answer is
it will be there, but
actually the right answer is throw it up to Jefferson
in the double team. He's breaking on the seven
route just like the
Buffalo Bills game. You throw
it up fourth and 18 and I mean
you pray for a PI, you pray for
Justin Jefferson to make a play,
but this one with this tight coverage,
I would rather throw to him on the double team than him in this situation.
Now, if he's back here and you throw it to him,
you got a much better chance of breaking that tackle.
That's one thing.
But right now, the right answer is there,
because you're never going to get backside.
And Kirk Cousins was already feeling Lawrence.
This was already after that rough in the passer that they called. So had felt 97 in 99 i don't forget about little williams yeah but these
dogs inside that's why you can play with 70 b's we got guys up front so it's no so like this ain't
madden like it ain't like you could just look there and throw back to this crossing route he
has his feet will have to turn shoulders everything and there's no way for him to do that with his
pocket looking like that we're just just talking second-half adjustments.
Why would they not double Dexter Lawrence like at some point during the show?
I think they tried.
He split a bunch of doubles.
If you watch, he split them when they doubled them.
Well, then you got Leonard Williams and Thibodeau.
Yeah.
And watch this movement.
You got Thibodeau coming and they're doing this.
I think this right tackle was kind of a new guy, so it's hard to do that.
Hold on.
29's in the box though right now, right?
Two?
No, he's a man-to-man coverage though.
Oh, is he?
They know he's not coming?
Yeah, he's, yeah.
So it's just three on three out there.
Yeah, he's in coverage.
Right?
They could have.
What are we doing?
Even so, like a lot of people were defending Cousins' decision on this,
and I understand you're under pressure, but in this point,
like you still have to throw that past the sticks, right?
You can't assume that Hawkinson is going to fucking break a tackle
and get, like, you know, seven yards a yak and move the chains.
Yeah, if you go back to the wide copy, now, once again, he's covered, right?
I mean, there's nowhere to really throw this ball.
That's when you just throw it up to your best player and you pray.
Yeah.
Because this right here, I mean, can he break a tackle?
Yeah, he could break one, but with this tight cover, just much less likely.
And he collisions him right there.
Who's that again, D-Buff?
Xavier McKinney.
The fact that he collisions him right there, like at four or five yards,
that's what – because normally that little – all of a sudden,
Hawkinson turns out, boom, he catches, he falls forward for nine yards.
Like that's what they probably hoped would happen.
But when you collision him right there, you not only mess up the timing but you get like you close the gap
yeah well with the pressure too like he's not throwing it on a rope he hockinson has to kind
of like come back and you know what i mean and like i mean i don't know i just that that made
no sense for kurt is like hey i gotta get this can't take a sack i gotta yeah i gotta i can't
take a sack i gotta get to somebody i can't get it back to Dalvin. Dalvin's kind of check releasing,
so he can't turn his body back in that direction
and throw it at anybody over here, honestly.
Let's judge him from slow motion all 22.
Let's do this.
The thing is they've already had the fuck it fourth down play,
and it worked.
It just didn't make any sense not to just go right back to it.
Hey, no matter what, you're throwing it to your best player.
Yeah, I'm throwing it out there, and I'm throwing it near the sideline
because the thing about a double team, like I got outside leverage,
you got inside leverage, but you throw this ball out here,
it's going to end up being one-on-one with me and Adoree Jackson.
So that is the correct throw to make there.
But this is his second option, the only other option he had to this front side.
Yeah, because I guess for him um yeah because i give the giants how
about we give the giants some credit on this cover oh for sure in the key moment too what a what a
play last two plays third and eight and then fourth and eight because kirk was kind of dealing this
game but um the drive before this one they came out defense came out got a stop uh then slay and
drop the crossing route which ended the game and then the defense had to jog on and get another stop, which they did.
So give great credit to Wink Martindale and that Giants defense.
Hell yeah, and to you.
Hell yeah, D-Bot.
Thank you, D-Bot.
Thank you.
AJ, what's your big takeaway from today's program?
That's a great question.
I'd have to think about that one.
I don't really know off the top of my head.
We've got time.
Get back to me.
On the record.
Is this on the record or off?
Off the record.
Off the record.
Off the record.
Oh, I don't know.
What does anyone else think?
What did everyone else take away from today?
Don't be a zebra, dude.
My big takeaway is you won't give us a takeaway.
Connor, your takeaway of today?
My big takeaway is that AJ acts like he hasn't seen stuff on the internet,
and then he's already seen it and has to act like he doesn't.
Which one?
What did I miss?
Tell me.
The elephant.
I know Nick sent me a link during the show.
I saw it while we were on the show, on the program.
So I know the elephant.
We watch you live, watch it.
What's going on up in Michigan?
What happened in Michigan?
Do you know?
Jim Harbaugh?
No, not him doing the farm walk or whatever.
The other thing.
What happened?
What else is going on?
You sent it into the group.
I knew I thought you sent it into the group.
Unfortunately, I mean, this is not a bit that I'm doing.
I'm not exactly aware of what may be going on.
I've been a little bit inundated with A.B.
Like, A.B.'s been in my timeline a lot lately.
You acted like you didn't see it. It's on your mind. My feed's been inundated with AB. Like, AB's been in my timeline a lot lately.
You acted like you didn't see it.
It's on your mind.
But the thing about it was something just happened with a Michigan coach. Yeah, Barry Weiss or something like that?
It wasn't you that sent it in.
You did react to it, though.
Oh, the Michigan coach.
Yeah, not Harbaugh, but the other coach.
He's suspended, right?
What did he do?
I don't know.
That sounds like a very serious thing.
That's going to come out to be a very serious thing.
Computer what? Something with computers. I don't know. That sounds like a very serious thing. That's going to come out to be a very serious thing.
Something with computers.
I don't know. I have no idea.
On a university computer.
Yeah, you don't want to ever jump to conclusions, but in the thing it said there were multiple
unmarked cars that showed up at his house,
which typically, immediately,
I'm just thinking like, oh.
The Alphabet Boys.
Just stop by.
Hopefully that's not it. I'm just thinking like the alphabet boys child born. Yeah. Just stop by. Yeah.
Yep.
Oh no.
Hopefully that's not it. Again,
that's jumping to conclusions.
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
But that is how it read.
Yeah,
for sure.
But he's suspended.
They haven't fired him yet.
Correct.
Yeah.
So,
and it wasn't,
yeah,
I don't know.
That was crazy.
I was,
I was shoot asking.
Cause I thought you knew more about it.
Maybe Nick was the one that sent it in.
Who sent it in?
Somebody sent it into the group.
Yeah, I don't know.
That was the first I saw it.
In the group?
Yeah.
Me too.
I saw it in there, but I did not send it in.
It might have been Gump's.
It was super.
It was like the way it read, I was like, I don't want to read it.
This sounds not good at all or whatever.
Yeah.
I hate that shit.
Me too.
Don't think that's indicative on the program up there.
No.
Right?
I don't think so.
No.
If it is, allegedly whatever it is.
No.
But that's weird stuff.
Yeah.
It's very weird.
It's a bit past it.
We'll keep everybody updated.
Mm-hmm.
Gronkowski said, was on Up and Atoms promoting the kick of Destiny.
Yep.
And also being a part of the FanDuel family.
And it's exciting to have guys like Gronk and Adam Vinatieri be a part of the FanDuel group.
And obviously, I can't wait to see him make the kick of destiny.
And $10 million in free bets be given out to a bunch of people.
Whoa.
That's what they're saying.
Did you hear that?
A lot of money, yeah.
$10 million.
Plus, to get the Super Bowl commercial, too, that's what, $5 million, $6 million or something?
Probably.
$16 million.
Then to—
We better have it teed up, Brady Gronk to kick right away.
Because what's it going to be, what, 30, 60 seconds?
They said it's live, yeah.
I don't know, 30 seconds.
They sell 30-second time slots?
I believe so, yeah.
But Bud Light and everybody else, they buy like three minutes worth of—
Three minutes, yeah.
It's awesome.
I enjoy the Super Bowl commercial.
So live, I think he's doing a kick.
And if he makes it, $10 million in free bets plus the $6 million,
whatever they're paying and whatever the price is,
that will be announced in the next couple of weeks,
how much money they're charging everybody.
Fox has it.
Greg Olsen and Kevin Burkhart.
Yep.
Nice.
So that's probably like a $20 million investment altogether for the Super Bowl.
For sure.
Good luck out there.
Let's make the kick.
Go get him.
Let's make the kick, bro.
You got Vinny in his corner.
He'll make it.
Yeah, Vinny Terry's going to coach him through it.
He's just going to say, be an athlete.
Put the ball through the fucking uprights.
Okay, $10 million on the line.
Let's go ahead.
Live, though.
Is this the first time a Super Bowl commercial has ever been done live?
From what I can remember, yeah.
I want to know how it works.
Is it right before kickoff?
When are they running? I don't know. So the Thunderdome here, obviously. I want to know how it works. Is it right before kickoff? When are they running?
I don't know.
So the Thunderdam here, obviously, we got both.
It's before the game.
Is it before the game?
That's what I heard.
Okay, so we got two different internet sources here
because at our last office we had experienced either spikes or drops in our internet.
So we're like, we're going to get two different internets.
And we got like the biggest that you could possibly get in the area that we live.
Multiple thousand up, thousand down.
There is times, yeah, no big deal, where it does not work at all.
Right.
Okay.
You pay for it.
A live commercial is a awesome roll of the dice.
Oh, yeah.
A lot of moving parts.
That's an awesome thing.
I mean, we will just drop off the air out of nowhere for what reason?
Oh, well, this thing didn't connect to the thing.
Can we make sure we fix it?
Of course.
Of course.
And then it happens like three months later, and it's like, what happened?
Well, the thing wasn't really talking to the thing.
We changed the thing, and now the whole thing should be good.
We should be good to go.
That's just not how it works with technology and everything. It's the best of all time. the thing we changed the thing and now the whole thing should be good we should be good to go that's
just not how it works with technology and everything you know it's the best of all time
it's the it's the best of times it's the worst of times you know it is it can show up there so
doing a live Super Bowl commercial is awesome I think that is an incredible concept and I it's
gonna work perfectly I think yeah it better because if it, boy, that is a lot of money you're
wasting. Still great pub, though. Even if it doesn't,
if it's a disaster, great pub for FanDuel.
I think so.
You gotta make the kick.
You have to make the kick. He's Rob Gronkowski.
He'll make the kick. Yeah, he's the most less-thinking,
more athletic guy of all time.
I think it's a short one.
I think he should be good. Should be no problem. I saw him working
with Vinny in that video. He was banging it. Is he putting on a tee? Well, I think he's a short one. I think he should be good. Should be no problem. I saw him working with Vinny in that video.
He was banging it.
Is he putting on a tee?
Well, I think he's probably just a holder.
Oh, I don't know.
Could he put a puck?
Give him a puck, like a high score.
Well, if we learned anything from the WWE, too, when the big moment's on there, he's not scared.
He's just going to fucking rip it.
Hell, yeah.
He'll just let it go.
He'll jump right in.
Absolutely, he will.
He's going to make it.
But he was on Up and Atoms because he's part of the FanDuel crew.
Up and Atoms on FanDuel TV, channel 602.
FanDuel TV, formerly TVG.
He said, he reacted to what Aaron said yesterday.
Why are you thinking MVP?
It should be Super Bowls.
You should never be thinking MVPs.
And I understand exactly where Gronk is coming from.
And a lot of
people took this away i would like to apologize to aaron though because i said you still got it
physically and he answered that question like speaking as how he thought his level of play was
like where he was able to still play because he is 30 fucking nine years old in this past season i
asked him like hey you feeling healthy i actually said you feel good that was that i and he bang rolls into an entire thing i still think i could play mvp football so i feel
bad about that but that has become a narrative out of today and uh they're right he that's why
he would come back and play though is for more superbowls i think so you know yeah i mean you
do a little bit more digging he said like maybe like two minutes before that like if you can't
win the whole thing there's no fucking reason to come back.
He cares about winning the Super Bowl.
There was a lot of the running with the MVP talk
and the whole thing.
Dan Patrick's show, who I got nothing but love for,
had somebody on.
They said something about Aaron and something.
And then some of their listeners were tweeting that, you know,
he only comes on this show because he hasn't faced a horror questions or
whatever.
And it's like, I feel like we ask about everything.
Oh yeah.
It's all in our phrasing, I guess.
Great question.
I feel like we do.
You asked him, you, AJ, who's like Aaron's type.
Would you play somewhere else?
You're a Packer through and through.
You're the one that brought up him potentially playing somewhere else. Like when you said it, I was like, Aaron Stipe, would you play somewhere else? You're a Packer through and through. You're the one that brought up him potentially playing somewhere else.
Like, when you said it, I was like, oh, good journalist.
Like, that's a – I didn't know how we were going to get to it,
but you asking it was, like, so much better for all parties
because of who you are in relation to him.
And the answer he gave was a very transparent one.
But it was like, I feel like we do talk about everything.
I'm sorry we don't just say, like, Aaron,
a lot of people think you're a fucking asshole.
With that being said, do you fucking hate LeFleur?
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, just, there's different ways to go about having a conversation
with maybe the best person in his position of all time at a sport.
You know, I just think that's an interesting thing, personally.
I mean, no matter what, though, people will, and I understand it.
Like, they're going to want us to ask what they think they would have asked in the moment so i get i've watched other people do interviews i'm like
well you gotta ask them this or whatever but i'm not gonna go online and rant about it i've never
done that i don't i always go like oh could have been cool to hear about there's some great
conversational uh conversationalists though out there absolutely that's the best interview style
i think personally yeah i think we get a lot of good answers out there. Absolutely. That's the best interview style, I think, personally.
Yeah.
I think we get a lot of good answers out there.
You've got to listen to the whole thing, though.
Like, yesterday was an hour and something.
Yeah, an hour and 15 minutes.
That'd be a lot of work.
But we do put the clips out, though.
So it's partially our fault, too,
because some people only see one clip
and now maybe another clip
and they don't listen to the whole thing.
Because it's very evident,
a lot of people that are talking about it this morning
literally didn't see the clip that got tweeted out 90 seconds before the MVP clip.
Right.
I mean, a lot of people don't even watch a clip.
If you put a headline over the clip,
responding to the headline without even watching the video.
So, I mean, that's the world we live in.
Bingo.
It is what it is.
That's me.
It is what it is.
Yeah.
Until it ain't.
Until it ain't.
That's right.
And it ain't what it ain't.
Damn right.
You know what it is, though?
What's that?
Time to try to give away some money from this company.
Come on, D-Bot.
Let's go.
A man who has been titled one of the greatest athletes walking.
Great energy today, Conor.
Now he's getting motivation from Boston Conor.
Well, I had to because he shit on me earlier.
And although Darius wasn't able to win any money in the last hour,
it feels like this is the hour in which he will win.
Why?
Because he has a same-game parlay tonight that's going to fucking hit on FanDuel as well.
Darius, what do we got tonight?
Jabba Rant, 25.
Easy.
Jared Allen, eight boards.
Easy.
Darius Garland, no Donovan Mitchell to line up.
20 points.
What?
Jaren Jackson, Jr., which that's what kind of pissed me
because he wanted me to put 15 points.
Yeah.
I went with the eight boards instead because I was a little scared.
He plays about 20, 20-something minutes.
Scared of those points.
So, Jaren Jackson, Jr., eight boards.
Darius Garland, 20 points.
Jared Allen, eight boards.
And Ja Morant, 25 points.
Did they pick you up from today and just put you on there? Yeah, what the hell? Darius Garland, 20 points. Jared Allen, eight boards. And Ja Morant, 25 points.
Did they pick you up from today and just put you on there? Yeah, what the hell?
No, it's a run back.
How'd that happen?
You look awesome.
You look so cool.
Even the hood strings are the same.
Yeah.
If we flip the hat around, it'll be the same.
Oh!
We know him!
We know him! We know him.
If we were to do the little minor details,
it would be the W of the Wilsons on the other side.
If we were to do the what's the difference in this photo.
But nonetheless, yeah, that would have been the last one probably.
Probably the first one because it had a thing.
It was bar games.
Hey, that's hitting tonight.
Yeah.
I sure hope he gets a rematch.
Actually, that's hitting only if 15 people win $500 because Darius can drain.
First one.
Ladies and gentlemen, for the first time today, Darius Butler will attempt to drain a ball into a bucket.
Hello, beautiful people. It is winter Wednesday, January 18th, bucket. Shit. Hello, beautiful people.
It is Winter Wednesday, January 18, 2023.
Already.
Before we get out of here, it is.
Time is flying when you're having fun, huh?
It really does.
Speaking of having fun, 15 people will have a lot more fun.
$500 more fun.
Whoa.
If Darius Butler can make this shot into that basketball hoop right over there.
15 people will retweet this tweet, say something nice to somebody,
and put their cash tag in the same reply.
Winner.
$500.
Damn it.
First try.
Oh, fuck.
Same rules apply for this next attempt with the footballs.
He will have an option to put a ball into any hole in the dome.
And.
Oh, would have counted off the wall.
Would have counted.
There it is.
Spinning it.
Oh!
Oh!
Would have counted it.
The box, too?
Absolutely.
Darius...
Don't worry about it.
Don't worry about it.
Oh!
Motherfucker.
It's a putt.
That's crazy.
There are five balls
waiting to be putted
on this putting green.
If Darius can go one of five.
Here we go.
Ten people will win $500.
All you got to do is retweet this video, say something nice to somebody,
and put your cash tag in there so that we can pay you officially on Cash App.
Not only will ten people win $500, also the same game parlay will hit tonight.
One.
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Come on, people. One. Bang. Bang. Bang. Come on, D-Bud.
Easy as that.
Great putt.
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Way to go, D-Bud.
Your second parlay will hit tonight as well
because that's good vibes that we need.
Some more good vibes around the NFL.
Matt Canada will be returning as the offense coordinator
for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Yeah!
Bert Lawton, who we love, the Pittsburgh Steelers spokesperson,
and we send nothing but positive vibes and love to you, Bert,
is reporting that Matt Canada will return as the Steelers' offense coordinator.
So congrats on a continuity, all of Pittsburgh.
Thank you, Steelers.
We will now go to Pittsburgh Steelers fan, Tone Diggs,
for his immediate reaction upon learning of this news being official.
Not a playoff team.
I'll address it when the playoffs are over.
Not a bad play.
That's what I've been doing all week about the Colts.
Smart moves.
Not a playoff team for the reason.
He's the reason.
Oh!
He's not the only injured that feels that way.
A lot of people think the offense is boring and stale, elementary.
What are we doing?
We got a lot of weapons and we don't look that great.
But what Matt Canada is saying, towards the end of the year,
we looked a lot better than we did at the beginning.
Let us keep building on the jet sweeps.
Let us keep building on the same looks, let us keep building on the same look same plays every single time i love it i'm thankful that
steelers choose continuity over anything else and one year from now we'll be judging this
decision won't we aj yeah possibly the steelers in the super bowl maybe with matt canada at the
helm as the coordinator yeah because it's not just in Canada where they see Matt Canada.
And they say, hey.
He's a pretty good play caller, pal.
Right here in America, they say
there's a couple things that motherfucker's done
that are good. A lot of things he's done bad.
Let's get rid of the bad. Let's keep the good.
Let's move on.
Positive. Bucks got to the Super Bowl with Byron Leftwich.
Boom.
Bruce Aarons is still there, I think.
Tom Brady was... Mike Evans. Bucks got to the Super Bowl with Byron Leftwich. Boom. Bruce Aarons was still there, I think. Yep.
Tom Brady.
Tom Brady was.
Sure.
Mike Evans.
But you're right.
All right, Matt Canada, congrats.
Let's go.
Go get it, man.
And to Matt Canada, who's about to spend his entire life in his office,
away from his family, those are the fans that you're trying to, you know.
Please.
Really win over.
It's not hard.
Just do better.
It's a win-win situation.
Amen.
That's what I'm talking about.
It's not hard.
Just do better, dude.
Not asking for a lot.
We do see a lot of offenses that seem to be a lot more creative
than all the offenses that stink.
Yes.
There is a blueprint out there, it appears,
where you can get creative and set up leverage
and get people
wide open because of play design and maybe even buy your quarterback a little bit more time
we've learned it this year on in the trenches everything db and everything else we've been
doing and a lot of fans have seen the same thing whenever they watch other teams play
and then they watch your team playing we have the most boring football team in the fucking league
what are we doing oh we also stink okay that's no fun why What are we doing? Oh, we also stink. Okay, that's no fun.
Why aren't we doing what the good teams are doing?
They're having more fun.
They have more creativity.
What?
And they're better than us.
Why don't we do that?
Matt Cannon said, you know, Rome wasn't built in a day.
That's right.
One season with Kenny Pickett here, let me fucking start adding different elements onto this. Yeah, I was going to be positive, and then there was a certain offensive lineman that
looks like Brian Dayball that watches all the film and every single play
and said, I don't know what the fuck this guy is doing.
All right, that would be Albie Quay Shipley.
Dang ring.
He's talking about that is not on the record.
I believe that was off the record.
It was.
So we'll have to ask him the next time he's on the record.
Still true, though.
We will see you all tomorrow.
You all are the best.
Tomorrow will be another Thursday without football.
Yep.
But it will be a good three, three and a half hours of bullshit on this
particular program.
Darius will be here.
Chuck will be here.
AJ will be here.
Right, AJ?
You can be here tomorrow?
Oh, yeah.
I'm here.
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Say something nice to somebody.
Goodbye.