The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 838 - OVERREACTION MONDAY, NFL Divisional Playoffs Recap, Ian Rapoport, Travis Kelce, Adam Vinatieri LIVE IN STUDIO, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: January 23, 2023

On today’s show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about the Divisional Round games, and how the NFL got Championship weekend right with the Bengals traveling to Kansas City to face the Chiefs, and the 49ers traveling to Philadelphia to battle the Eagles. Joining the progrum to chat about the Divisional Round, where some of the marquee Quarterback’s may end up next season, and all of the important injury updates is NFL Network Senior Insider and friend of the show, Ian Rapoport (25:07-48:46). Next, Super Bowl Champion, 8x Pro Bowler, 7x All-Pro, 2010’s All-Decade Team, future Hall of Famer, TE for the Kansas City Chiefs, Travis Kelce, joins the progrum to chat about his massive performance against the Jags, his thoughts when Patrick Mahomes initially went down, why he loves the grind so much still, doing a podcast with his brother, and more (1:05:56-1:25:31). Later, the GOAT, 4x Super Bowl Champion, 3x All-Pro, 3x Pro Bowler, NFL scoring leader, member of the 100th anniversary team, 2000’s All-Decade Team, future Hall of Famer, Adam Vinatieri joins the show to chat about the playoffs, he goes through a few of his postseason kicks, what he thinks the issues with the Colts are, what he’s doing with Gronk and FanDuel for the Super Bowl, and more (1:45:39-2:32:12). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow for Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

hello beautiful people welcome to our humble abode the fan duel thunderdome on this overreaction monday january 23rd 2023 this show starts now football has four teams left that are vying for lumbo the niners will travel to philadelphia to take on the eagles who buzzsaw the New York Giants the fuck out of the NFC playoffs. Spread is two and a half there. Eagles favored at home against a Niners team that beat the Dallas Cowboys last night. Not only in doing so, they eliminate the Dallas Cowboys, but also maybe eliminate Big Mike McCarthy from head coach of the Dallas Cowboys because that last play of the game was certainly the worst play that has ever been used in the NFL, bar none.

There was not even a close number two for what they decided to do last night when they had to have it in the divisional round with Ezekiel Elliott at center. And nightmares immediately followed. Then on the AFC side, you got the Cincinnati Bengals and the cold-blooded, cerebral, stone-cold killer. Joey Burrow going into Buffalo, knocking Bills Mafia out of this thing in dominant fashion. I mean, just absolutely dominating Josh Allen into Buffalo Bills, which none of us could have expected. Taking on the Chiefs, who seem to be the Chiefs in that first drive where Patrick Mahomes was slinging the thing sidearm

and jumping and twisting. And Travis Kelsey had like five receptions on the first drive, scoring at ease, getting all the way down the field. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Then it all changed. Patrick Mahomes sprained his ankle. Patrick Mahomes was taken out of the game. Patrick Mahomes had to run on his ankle to the locker room to get x-rays on his ankle, then ran back onto the field, stood on the sideline while Chad Henney

was on a 98-yard drive to score a touchdown. Shout out to Andy Reid and that offense. It seemingly works with anybody, against anybody. Shout out to Biennium, obviously, being a part of that whole thing. But Patrick Mahomes staying on the sideline, waiting for the x-ray results after he had already ran on it a couple different times. Made no sense to me. Nonetheless, he comes back in, throws another touchdown, hobbles around will he be healthy this upcoming week enough to beat the Cincinnati Bengals that'll be the conversation of the entire week Ian Rappaport will be joining us in about 20 minutes with an update around the NFL not only with Patrick Mahomes health but also other places how about the Bengals offensive line

fucking figuring it out yesterday unreal it was amazing to watch all weekend four teams are left we'll chat about it all day cannot thank you all enough for joining us. Travis Kelsey will join us in about an hour and 15 minutes after his record-breaking day where he just caught everything and did whatever he wanted. You would have assumed he would have got X'd by old defense coordinator Caldwell down there in Jacksonville. Apparently, he did not. I assume Lou Anarumo and the boys in Cincinnati are going to treat him a little bit differently, but I can't wait to talk to him.

And Adam Vinatieri will be joining us. Wow. Adam Vinatieri, you've all seen him on the internet. He is jocked, so jocked right now with his kid. He's also training Rob Gronkowski for the kick of destiny. Can't wait to talk to him in about two hours. Let's also chat with him about what his thoughts are on Tom Brady. Yeah.

What's he doing? What are his thoughts on the playoffs as a whole? And also Maher, who made a couple kicks last night, did have one that he missed badly that ended up getting blocked. He bounced back. Who are some of the kickers we should keep an eye on going forward? Because Robbie Gold's 28 for 28 in his last 28 kicks in the playoffs. He's an absolute stallion.

He's 40 years old, had a tackle last night. Yeah. How about Harrison Bucker? He had a tackle the other day. Kickers are here to show up. Can't wait to chat with Adam Vinatieri and all of you. We have overreactions from around the internet. We have A.J. Hawk joining us, and we have the talks at the table at Boston Corner at Ty Schmidt.

Let's dive right into it, Ty, because you and I both noticed this. Connor's been on, what's his deal? Cloud 11 today. It's been unbelievable. This is the most juice that Connor has had for a long time. Connor, why are you all jacked up, pal? Well, it was a long NFL season, Pat, for the Patriots. And as a Patriots fan, obviously, you ride that roller coaster.

But more so it stunk because throughout those long 18 weeks, there was one fan base who said, you know, you guys are terrible. You guys suck. You're a fat, ugly slob. And I didn't think that I deserved that for being a Patriots fan. And, yes, that happened to me, the Bills fans. And let me first say, I had a $500 ticket on the Bills to win the Super Bowl. I thought this was the year the Buffalo Bills.

It helps you. It helps me. I want them to go and win. And watching the three-time Super Bowl champions, Buffalo Bills, go out there and not just get boat races. Three-time Super Bowl. Yeah, they've won the Super Bowl the last three years. I don't know if you guys have been on the same Twitter app that I have been.

This is not rehearsed, by the way. He would have just kept going. I would have just kept going. Yeah, they have actually won three straight Super Bowls. I don't know how you guys haven't been watching the league. I guess you guys must have missed a couple games. No, because the Rams won last year. No, no.

The Bucs won. Yeah. Really? The year before that. The Chiefs beat the Niners. And then who won before the Chiefs, though? The Patriots. So we have six Super Bowls as a Patriots fan, and I get to sit back and just kind

of watch the Buffalo Bills fans and do whatever they want to do, and we love the Bills. Poyer's the best. What? Brandon Bean's a great guy. Josh Allen. Vaughn Miller comes on here every day. He should be aner's the best. You know, Brandon Bean's a great guy. Josh Allen. Vaughn Miller comes on here every day. He should be an ambassador for the league. I was genuinely rooting for the Buffalo Bills to go and win the Super Bowl this year.

And boy, oh boy, what did they do? First of all, they bitched because they should have been the one seed and they should have had a bye week and they should have had home field advantage through the playoffs. Guess what? It doesn't fucking matter. You laid an egg at home. Maybe you should have been the one seed and they should have had a bye week and they should have had home field advantage through the playoffs guess what it doesn't fucking matter you laid an egg at home maybe you should have been the seventh seed because then maybe you have a little bit more grit toughness to you we're talking about parades seriously i mean are you fucking kidding

me for a team that's never won a super bowl that to talk about super bowls as much as they do let alone an afc championship maybe you just shut the fuck up and you play the next game. And you don't think about Super Bowls. You don't do that. You don't think about going to Arizona. You don't think about the parade in Buffalo. You think about the next game. And guess what they did in Atlanta?

Telling their fans, let's go buy tickets. I don't know why they're selling tickets to a game at a neutral site because that doesn't make sense. Because guess what? You haven't made it there yet. So what are we doing in that facet of it? We're defeating the Bengals. We're defeating the Bengals' fire.

That's all they did. Congratulations, Connor. We're happy that you get to get that off your chest because the Bills, the Buffalo Bills more specifically, have been dunking over the Patriots and the AFC East for the past few years and it is their division. And I could see how maybe you would want them to go win a Super Bowl because it's Patriot fame. You'd be like, well, yeah, maybe we're not the same Patriots and the AFC East for the past few years, and it is their division. Yeah. And I could see how maybe you would want them to go win a Super Bowl because it's Patriot fame.

You're like, well, yeah, maybe we're not the same Patriots we were, but also we got the Super Bowl champs in our division right now. Yeah, the Patriots. So we got some real work that we're going to have to do each year, and you bet on them and everything like that. Exactly. Nobody could have expected them to lay the egg that they laid, especially with DeMar Hamlin out there.

Yeah. That's right. At Tone Diggs, one half of the hammer. Die! Cowboys is out here. I mean, DeMar Hamlin out there. That's right. At Tone Diggs, one half of the hammer. Die! Cowboys is out here. I mean, DeMar Hamlin was there. In the security vehicle. 100%.

Well, that's how it everyone's seen. The Internet is the worst place on Earth. It's a buzz. The Internet is the worst. I didn't see that in the report. That was other people in here. You can find on the Internet anything that you are seeking. And one of the things that is on the Internet right now is that

DeMar Hamlin was not actually at the game because he was wearing a mask the whole time now there was other reports that tamar hamlin maybe wasn't even in buffalo at the time or whatever the case uh this was wild to me because i thought it was huge that tamar hamlin was back in the building i love that they had him in a side by side over there with a four-wheeler and that they were taking care of DeMar Hamlin. I did find it interesting that we didn't really get to see him at all, right? We haven't really got to see him, and it's his decision to do that, I believe. And the Buffalo Beals are saying that they are listening to DeMar Hamlin's advice and everything like that.

But he didn't get to see him, and then whenever they showed him up in the suite, the snow was so bad. Oh, yeah. Snow was so bad he couldn't even see him. So, yeah. Snow was so bad, you couldn't even see him. So, like, we all were like, okay, we think that is. That looks like DeMar. That looks like it's DeMar or whatever. But that didn't really change anything.

That was the biggest egg that we've seen the Bills lay. I think, really, this Bills team, I mean, they lose to Miami, I guess, early in the year. But that was, like, in Miami at a game that they didn't do well at all. He had a couple turnovers. He underthrew a guy. I think there was a touchdown there late, if I'm remembering, where he slips and falls, Josh Allen does. But they just looked bad. But I don't know if it was they looked bad or if it was the Cincinnati Bengals. That Lou Anarumo-led defense was on a string. They were so disciplined. It felt like there was really nobody open. They had eyes on Josh Allen.

Stephon Diggs was pissed. Anytime you get Stephon Diggs pissed off, you know that's good news for you as the opponent of the Buffalo Bills because there's going to be some sort of conversation that's going to have to take place on the sideline. Stephon Diggs, Josh Allen pissed off at each other. I don't know. Is he pissed off at Ken Dorsey as well?

Who knows what he's mad about. Alleged reports where he left before coaches were even in the locker room in the locker room then he was brought back into the locker room by duke johnson duke johnson then he left moments later or whatever so stefan and buffalo beals are currently pissed off at each other that's going to happen though whenever there's massive disappointment because nobody thought they were going to lose that game especially in the way that they did but the cincinnati bangles we need to admit it and And it stinks for the AFC North. Everybody needs to start recognizing this. They are the team. They're the modern dogs.

This is the team that you do not want to have to see whenever games matter. Their quarterback, Joey Burrow, and Joey Burrow is going to pave his own lane of greatness. He's going to do his own thing in the NFL. And there's a lot of people tweeting this and acknowledging that. I think it's because it's the most accurate, he is Tom Brady. Joey Burrow is the fucking second coming of Tom Brady. He is the guy that's going to will his team. He's the dude who's going to show up in the biggest moments. National championship game when he was at Clemson, he had his fucking ribs caved into

his lungs right before halftime. I mean, I was on the field calling it. I watched it happen. Him limping in there. And just all this stuff you hear about the moxie and the cigar and the swagger. Like, think about what that does with his teammates when his team sees that they're a guy that is going to have to have a good game for us to win. And he's doing fucking look away.

Oh, so sweet. And warm-ups in the middle of the snow. It's like, if that guy is that confident that comfortable that relaxed and that cerebral I feel like I'm going to be pretty confident comfortable relaxed and cerebral he is the perfect fucking quarterback

Ian Rappaport reported on his Instagram stories we'll talk to him in a few minutes what is the deal with the filters and all that. And I enjoy that. I think that's clever. I think it is entertaining.

It's a different way to go about doing it. But I couldn't believe that that's where we learned about it. Yeah. Feli gives pretty big news. He reported on his Instagram stories, which are electrifying, even though Conor's a little bit negative about the filters that he uses. He tries to change the game. Don't be boring. He's a cool insider.

Yeah. He said that Cincinnati is gearing up for an extension of Joey Burrow this offseason and they are financially capable because business is thriving was his report in basically those terms. I would keep him on the team for 10, 15, 20 years if I could. Cincinnati

Bengals are a problem. And I think the conversation about the neutral site game was all Zach Taylor needed to motivate the boys because a lot of people referenced it on the team and Zach Taylor. So we just keep ruining these NFL plans. Sorry, Atlanta. Sorry, 50,000 people that bought tickets.

Logistically, they're going to have to sell tickets ahead of time. But this Bengals team is legit. I fucking love them. And I think it's a big-time problem for the AFC North. Do you not believe that is the case? No, as they are currently constructed, I believe that they are a problem for the afc more north but i mean the bangles could be icarus they could be flying two coasts close to the sun they might not be able to pay everyone so we'll see how this franchise who has new success is able to handle

the success moving forward but as they are currently constructed in this current 2023 year in playoffs they are a team to be worried about and a team to be worried about as long as joe burrow is under center because he is a cool motherfucker he is a cool motherfucker man just not even blinking dude nope it is nothing's a problem in that weather with those conditions now he's in ohio fuck we know that so he grew up playing football in the snow and i i thought about that as i was watching the game. That's a big deal. Now, granted, people in the South who have the warmer weather, they get to play football more year-round. There's more training because, obviously, the weather is indicative of some shit that you can do outside in the North. So there's always a conversation about that.

But I think him growing up in the snow just even though you don't nobody likes being cold i don't think maybe there's a few people that do but even in the fucking like cold weather people hate the cold yeah everybody says oh you're from ohio you like the cold that is not the case nope you're always going to be cold forever you just know how to deal with it joey burrow being an ohio fuck I think really does help the whole thing. This warm-up video that he did, this thing, as soon as this hit the internet, it was like, alright, this

fucking guy is... He don't give a fuck! He's the guy. Trenton Irwin's on the other side of that. Obviously, they have a great connection. Does he catch this ball or not? We still don't know. It is Joe Burrow, so I'm assuming he put it right in the fucking bread basket. But we don't know. In the game he didn't, so maybe.

But they're able to keep this team together. They're going to be a problem. And that dude, I don't know how you figure out if a guy's got it or not. You need to figure out how you find what he has. You know what I mean? Tom Brady obviously has it. All the people that are at the top of the world in their profession have what Joe Burrow has.

Not a lot of people have this. There's a lot of professionals that don't have that mindset. There's a lot of great professionals that don't have that mindset. There's only a few people that do. Seems like Joey Burrow's got it. What a fucking cool thing to have and knowing it too. When he says, my window's my whole career. Yeah.

Unreal. That's a fucking incredible line because it's real. And I bet you if you asked Tom Brady back like 20 years ago, what's your window? It's my whole career. That's why we're in the middle of the Tom Brady conversation that we're currently in. This is what Joe Burrow is going to be forever.

Congrats to Cincinnati. Unbelievable. And I really do think, you know, like I said, and we were talking about it a little bit, if Mahomes is fucking unbelievable, he really is. But when Josh Allen recently has gotten a lot of being in that upper end. Prototype. Yeah, exactly.

If Mahomes is 1A, Burrow is 1B. Because all the stuff that you're saying, very few guys, obviously you have to be tough as shit to play quarterback in the NFL. Everyone who plays quarterback in the nfl is tough like the the amount of hits he's taken in the last three years to just keep get up and and you know respond but also like the stuff that you're trying to find that maybe what one in like a hundred thousand guys have like he raises the the play of everyone on the team i think think it's more than 100,000. Yeah, probably. I'm saying just guys who play in the NFL, not just in general.

Oh, yeah, yeah, guys who have been in the league. Yeah, exactly, guys who are coming in. I really don't think there is any way you can emulate that or find it. And I think he's a guy who's had it from the get-go, had it in high school, had it in college. How about him not playing, though? Imagine if they would have been able to see him on the field. Because I think in practice, he can make all the throws,

probably does everything in chirps. But moments are when Joe comes a lot. This is when these fucking guys... Imagine if he didn't transfer. Imagine if they just play him. I assume you put him on the field. Joe Burrow's going to come alive. Because the Moxie,

is he faster than anybody? No. I assume he's faster than some people. He's probably faster than me for sure. I'd assume I can run a little bit. I'm old though. He's faster than me. He can move. He got the edge on some people. He can run. He's not the fastest guy. Does he have the strongest arm? No.

I assume especially in some of those Ohio State quarterback rooms. I assume there's some of those Ohio State quarterback rooms, I assume there's guys that can throw like 80, 85 yards whenever he wasn't playing or whatever. Yeah, I assume there's guys that just have absolute cannons. So he's not the fastest, can't throw at the farthest. I guess he's just more accurate than everybody. Insanely accurate.

So that's what coaches do. That's whenever they're picking who they're going to play, who they're not going to play. You've got to – like why didn't this guy play? Because if you would have put him on the field, I think you would have, he would have been the starter for fucking five years, obviously, immediately out of high school. He just has what's across your forehead in the word you just said, the moxie.

He just literally has the moxie of somebody who, in the biggest moments, shows up. And not everybody has that. That's just a different thing. Big-time players make big-time plays in big-time games, right? biggest moments that shows up and not everybody has that that's just a different thing big time players make big time plays in big time games right that's the quote that's why they are big time players and it's like every big time game we've seen this fucking guy and he has made big time plays all the time this dude is a legit rock star superstar and his hair is so cool

it's so everything about him is like the perfect fucking nfl quarterback he's an ohio fuck he's in cincinnati he can handle everything and they're gearing up for an extension it's like if they're able to keep just some of their weapons like hayden hearse has become an absolute guy for them cj uzama was their guy they bring in hayden hearse he's still being very productive, obviously. That was an incredible route combination that had him wide the fuck open against that particular because I think Jamar Chase went underneath and all eyes go to the chosen one, of course. But it's beautiful what they've done over there.

The offensive line thought they were going to struggle. I think the weather helps them out a lot. Whenever you can't get as much traction, obviously, that's a great thing for the offensive line as opposed to the defensive line because they're trying to get off and be explosive like we saw fucking uh micah do oh yeah man like that that's what they're like when you don't have your legs that's a big deal so i think that was good for the bangles offensive line for that team that particular group to have those uh conditions but still with the way they ran their offense yeah everybody's talking about how quickly joe burrow gets the ball out yeah i'd assume that's their group to have those conditions. But still, with the way they ran their offense,

everybody's talking about how quickly Joe Burrow gets the ball out. I'd assume that's out of necessity because not too long ago, they couldn't protect Joe at all, and Joe was dying. So somebody was having a conversation, probably Joey and somebody else, hey, we can't have you get Andrew Lucked. If you get Andrew Lucked, we are fucked. You are a guy. We need to protect you. So they changed up the offense, I would assume,

to fucking help Joe Burrow. Now he has the second fastest from snap to ball out time in the NFL. Yesterday it was faster than obviously anybody for the whole weekend. I mean, it's a beautifully built operation over there right now. And it's crazy that it's happening in Cincinnati,

but that has to give everybody hope, I would assume. Can that be a double-edged sword for Joe Burrow? What doesn't kill you makes you stronger, like early in his career. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. A little harder. She's hosting the...

Oh yeah, the NFL Awards. NFL Honors. Nice! That makes sense i believe um but like where like he did take a beating and he did learn to get rid of the ball out and stuff like that so now when he does have three alignment out like that's not like he's done this before he's done this a million times they're prepped for it yeah almost won a super bowl without an offensive line bingo like that's that's the funny thing everybody's judging mike mccarthy it's like mike mccarthy saw the cincinnati Bengals in the Super Bowl with no offensive line and said, fucking brilliant. When we need one,

we're going to take out our offensive line. That's what we're going to do. So the Cincinnati Bengals, potentially the blueprint for why Mike McCarthy, where are we trying to go? We're trying to go to the Super Bowl. What did the team in the Super Bowl do last year? They didn't have offensive line. That makes sense now.

Oh, that play. Let's talk about it. That's San Francisco 49ers defense. Okay? Now Brock Purdy's a fucking dog. And he is seemingly a professional quarterback. Oh, yeah. Everything he's saying off the field, everything he's doing on the field, is the prototypical professional quarterback. Oh, yeah. Everything he's saying off the field, everything he's doing on the field

is the prototypical professional quarterback. I have no idea why they're talking about who's going to be the starter going forward. Give this guy the keys to the fucking car and let him have an offseason. He has the capability to put the ball wherever he wants to. George Kittle has obviously come alive since Purdy has come into the game,

and that's because normally the tight end's a little bit closer to the quarterback, so there's a lot more completions and easier things down the middle. But his relationship with Ayuk in that route is filthy. Right at the sticks, first down, right on the money, perfectly timed, thrown over a guy's head, a little bit of feel inside the pocket there. Purdy does everything well, seemingly. And he can throw the ball down the field, too.

Everybody talks about, oh, he's a system quarterback. How about right on the fucking money, 20-some yards down the field? I think as of, like, last week, he had the most 20-yard pass attempts or completions in the league. And everybody's talking about him being a system quarterback. But he's going to make long-term connections with a lot of different people, like George Kittle over the middle. What a catch. Diggs did not want to die. Kittle George Kittle over the middle. What a catch.

Diggs did not want to die. Kittle said, I got this thing. What a throw. What a play. And whenever you think about this fucking Niners team, with Christian McCaffrey eating up everybody, everybody just got sucked up by Christian McCaffrey because of how good he's been.

96 is covering George Kittle on this particular play. What are we doing? Feels like a good find by Purdy. But nonetheless, this team is awesome. And everybody's burying Dak. They're like, Dak Prescott. Dallas Cowboys Twitter account. Yeah.

Crushed him. Buried Dak Prescott. I mean, fool. This guy sucks from the Dallas Cowboys Twitter account. I could not have expected something like this if I was Dak Prescott. Obviously, Dak is going to have to turn off a lot of things, put his blinders on, headphones on, probably travel to a different country for a little bit. It is very loud around Dak Prescott right now.

Granted, they have a big-time win, the first road playoff victory in 30 years over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers just a week ago. Now there's tweets like this coming from the Dallas Cowboys' official Twitter account. That's that gold check, and then the NFL stamped it. Yeah, we agree. So the gold check is this is who they say they are. And then the NFL is like, that's correct. That is the new Twitter.

No more just the blue check mark. Now it's a full system, which I like, actually. I think I'm a fan of that. They tweeted, Dak Prescott gave away the ball twice in the narrow loss to the 49ers. In a matchup, the Cowboys had a chance to win if they didn't, again, generate self-inflicted wounds.

Make sure we get all the right hashtags in. Hashtag Dow versus SF. What is that? What is that there? Big line. Capital I. Page break. Is that page break? Hashtag Dallas Cowboys.

Let's make sure we get all the proper social media-ing in, and let's make sure we just tweet this as if we're not the Dallas Cowboys. Let's just act as if we are a blog website that is generating clicks and views and everything like that. Let's go ahead and bury our fucking quarterback while the rest of the world is doing it. We have respect for the Dallas Cowboys operation and organization. They've literally been very nice to us. We're very thankful for that. That tweet, though, from the team, that's a burial.

That is a rude thing. But Dallas Cowboys fans are saying, we're cool with it. Cowboys Twitter account is speaking for us. Dak Prescott, two big turnovers last night, and obviously not able to win the game against the Niners. I, personally, feel like nobody is giving enough respect to the Niners defense on TV, talking about Dak Prescott on the fucking Twitter account of the Dallas Cowboys.

I don't think people are talking about how great that fucking Niners defense is. And I think that is being not being missed here. That defense is going to do that to a lot of people. I think, especially this late in the season. Now they played the chiefs, I guess earlier in the year and the chiefs hung 44 points on them.

It was like a week, week, week seven or something like that. This Niners defense with Purdy, a quarterback, and the way they're all operating, seemingly one of the best defenses to ever step on a football field, and that is no shit. And I think Dak Prescott just so happened to be its latest victim,

and that's not being talked about enough, I don't think. Yeah, and the Niners are like the Bengals. They didn't hit't hit their stride until, you know, week 11, week 12. Like, even early on, they lost to the Falcons. Like, you can't really judge them, I feel like, in that facet of it. But you mentioned it. Their defense is so good. Like, it was 19-12, but they only gave up nine points because on one of the, I think it was Ray-Ray McLeod actually fumbled a punt return, you know,

inside their own red zone. So, really, they only allowed nine points to the Cowboys. And unfortunately for the Cowboys, they're facing a lot of terrible questions similar to what the Bills are going on with. But with Purdy not turning the ball over, they can score 20 points and basically beat any team in the NFL. And we were talking about this right before, and we talked about the Bengals already.

These four teams are the right four teams. There isn't anything wrong here. It should be Eagles, Niners, Chiefs, Bengals. They got it right. And if you go back to week 12, week 13, I think most people would say, now Bengals are Bills, and then Chiefs. Now the Chiefs are in an interesting situation, especially with their quarterback. There's the layout for who could win Lombardi

in Arizona. Joining us now is a man who might have a little bit more information on Patrick Mahomes' ankle and the whole situation with the entirety of the NFL, including Dak Prescott and Mike McCarthy, host of the weekly wrap-up of the Rap Sheet and friends us being friends, he being Rap Sheet. Also on NFL Network all day,

on their website all day, on his Instagram stories, breaking rather large news. Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rapoport. Yay! Okay, let's dive right into it. Patrick Mahomes' ankle. Tony Romo said yesterday a lot of things. Yeah.

A lot of things. Tony Romo is commentating games, so he's obviously going to say a lot of things. Amongst the things that he said in incredible fashion, the Internet has turned on Tony Romo. Oh, I hate his guts. He's dead. How did this happen, by the way? Well, he's not very good anymore.

That's the big part. He had a sweet fake cadence, though. Yes. Now is not the time for this conversation. But Tony Romo. Waysa. Waysa. Senate.

Senate. He has his own thing. Tony Romo. People hate me on a microphone, too, so I'm not going to judge. The internet was loud yesterday. But nonetheless, Tony Romo said he had one of those injuries, and he said when you're playing, you're going to get through it because of the adrenaline and everything like that.

He said Wednesday he's not going to be able to walk, he thinks, because of the way he went through it. And he'd be surprised if Patrick Mahomes plays next week. Now, Patrick Mahomes played, obviously, finished the game, threw a touchdown, walked out of the building without a walking boot, allegedly. What are you hearing about his ankle, and what should we be expecting for his playing time this weekend? Okay, a couple things.

First of all, I wouldn't judge the not using a walking boot because he knows that everyone's going to be on him. And if he leaves in a walking boot, it's going to be reported. Patrick Mahomes is using a walking boot. My guess is that was strategic. And I would imagine whatever's happening, he's not exactly like walking on, like he's got kids, he's chasing them around. He's probably doing that in a walking boot at his house, I would imagine.

Okay. You are right. And our good friend Tony Romo is right, that yesterday and today is probably going to be a lot worse than it was during the game. The fact that he was able to go out there and play is awesome, but he's going through a lot of things emotionally, whatever else. Being able to play is good, but is he going to be limited Wednesday? I imagine he probably will be probably will be limited all week I would say um Andy Reid called it a tweak that was a really

good sign because that is an indication at least even though it's a high ankle that it's not like an overly serious one so I would expect him to play but maybe not be as mobile as he usually is okay which is certainly going to affect the way the chief's offense goes especially with the way lumen arumo oh yeah and that bangles defense have uh has been balling let's take let's go back to the situation here with the ankle then that is now currently being described as a tweak by andy reed which seems to be great news from where we were whenever we saw it immediately happen because with how they were rolling on the first drive, I mean, we thought it was potentially broken there. So he goes to the sideline, and trainer tells Andy Reid, we should get this thing tested.

And you see Pat saying, I'm not getting out of the game. I'm not getting out of the game. So then they talk him into getting it tested. He ran, right, to the test on that ankle. That was great. We saw him running to a test on his ankle on whether or not he should be playing football. So then he gets an x-ray. Then he's standing on the sideline with a jacket on.

Is the reason why he's standing there because they're awaiting the exam or the readings back? And how long does that normally take? And then as soon as they get that back, he's back in the game? Because him watching Henny was interesting to me. Now Henny was a dog. Let's not do that. But him watching Henny was interesting to me. Now Henny was a dog. Let's not do that. But him watching Henny was just weird to me. How did all play out from your understanding?

Henny's situation was amazing to me, first of all, because I think they just didn't want to take him out of a drive. He was rolling. The thing was moving. Relax. Everybody breathe. Let's get the exam back. It didn't take very long i would

imagine like fewer than 10 like real-time minutes not game minutes but real-time minutes but like you just have to be sure like obviously a game is important you want to win the super bowl you want to win the super bowl every year but it's also your franchise quarterback who's going to be there for the next 10 years so read the x x-ray. Make sure you read it. Let someone else read it. It's a little bit of a process, I would say. So I didn't have a problem at all with Mahomes' reaction. I kind of loved

it because you know he was like, if no one talks to me and we don't get it tested, then it definitely can't be broken because the x-rays won't say it's broken because I wouldn't have gotten the x-rays. I kind of like that part of it. But I think once they were clear, there was like, you can go. And he was like, I can go.

Was there anybody that didn't like it? Hold on. You just said, I kind of like it. Was there anybody that didn't like it? Like I saw when Pat was like, no, no, I loved it. I didn't know there was people that didn't. You're saying people didn't like that no people are like no not with the chiefs i mean the chiefs chiefs people like

it no no no just in general in general there's people that are the internet can be very uh critical of sideline activity you know like dac uh screams like let's go for two and everyone's like analyzing and like how can he say that? He throws interceptions. People are overcritical of the sidelines. Meanwhile, if I'm throwing a fit here in my office doing my job like they're doing their job, nobody would see it. Yeah, which is very nice. How many fits do you throw?

What do you throw? Yeah, what? What do you throw? Are you okay? I don't throw any fits. Is everything all right, dude? Not a big fit guy, but if I was. Okay, I got you.

Yeah, you're just saying the whole world watches these guys work, so anything that could potentially go wrong is happening in a very public setting, especially if you are the face of the program. You just mentioned the person that is the face of the Dallas Cowboys, Dak Prescott. He's getting murdered today on the Internet and everywhere. Talk shows are burying him because he's Dak Prescott, he's getting murdered today on the internet and everywhere. Talk shows are burying him because he's Dak Prescott. He had seven straight turnovers or seven straight games with picks. Now he has two against the Niners.

Nobody's talking about great the Niners defenses, but everybody's burying Dak Prescott and Mike McCarthy for that last play, which is certainly the worst play to ever happen in the NFL. Let's not even talk about any other plays that could potentially be worse than that. Let's just talk about that one and move on. Are they in trouble down there? What's going on with the Cowboys from how you hear it? I like how you were very quick to mention that this is not like your play.

Definitely not like your play. No, this is way worse. What are you talking about? Is that play last night? Yeah, way, way worse. I have a take on the Cowboys play, would you like to hear it? Love to.

I don't care. Oh! It's stupid. They had a 1% chance of pulling off a crazy play. They screwed it up. Like, okay. They weren't going to score. I mean, the actual odds of scoring from the 25 when you have no time left on one player are astronomically low.

So, like, if you think about what they were trying to do, and we talked about this morning, we're not the only ones talking about this. We're not acting as if we created this theory. No, no, no. Everybody's talking about it. No, no, but the way we're about to talk about it, it is a good idea to get all your skilled players onto the field in a potential annexation of Puerto Rico situation. Okay? More speed on the field, the better. There's a time where I wouldn't even be kicking off for some occasions if I was a kicker and it was the end of the game. You just need to squib. It's like three seconds left. Put a safety out there that can keep a kick in the field, and then you have 11 people that could potentially run four fours on the field for the end of 11 people that could potentially you know run four fours

on the field for the end of it there's always those types of situations but getting as many skill players on i think is smart i think it's a good idea now having zeke at center and just hoping that they won't rush the passer which i think was the the goal of this one was an egregious thought especially with the niners defense and And then them blowing Zeke up. Good snap, though. Great snap. Zeke is going to say that forever, as he should. Look at that shit. Good form, too. Oh, yeah. That's great. So I think they

didn't expect maybe just a clean rush, bull rush. I think there was a chance they thought they'd be able to get the ball, because T.Y. has a couple offensive linemen in front of him down here and some space. Do you think that's where the ball was supposed to go? To T.Y.? I think there's a chance you're supposed to get back to the outside. Outside, they've got two speed

guys behind. They've got speed guys behind the offensive line. Now, I've not obviously broken this down. I'm not an offensive guru, but most of these balls end up going from one sideline to the other. So I'd assume that they're trying to set up some sort of wall type thing. I assume that they're trying to set up some sort of wall type thing. Like I assume

that's the idea, but just a terrible fucking play. Brutal. History of football, worst one of all time. Are they in trouble down there or not? Mike McCarthy's not in trouble. Might there be some staff changes? Anything's possible. I think

when things don't go perfectly, I mean there's I think 13 or so coordinator moves, coordinator jobs open in the NFL right now. That might actually just be offensive coordinator. There's a lot. There's been a lot of coordinator movement this year. So, like, you know, Dan Quinn obviously could leave and get a head coaching job.

I wouldn't be surprised if there was some sort of staff movement. I just don't get the sense that it would be like anything crazy, crazy, like Mike McCarthy's fine, for instance. But the Dak question is interesting because he obviously didn't play great. The interceptions are a problem. Obviously the 49ers defense is awesome, like literally the best awesome, and they make everybody look bad. But I have two things.

One, Dak knows it. He's got to be better. And the interception thing wasn't a fluke because we saw a repeated you know it balled non-security issues like that needs to be a focus this coming year and they need another weapon like michael gallup had i think no yards nothing like yeah and then there was a zigzag situation there on the pick they needed another they need they need help. He needs help. He needs running back help.

He needs receiver help. See, on this Gallup play, too. Now, listen, I guess in Kurt Warner, via Steve Mariucci, told Dak Prescott that every interception has its own story. You know? Like that is, I guess, a quote amongst quarterbacks and coaches and everything like that. But the pick for the Gallup one, he clearly thought Gallup was coming back and out.

Gallup stopped. Clearly. Clearly. Like that's such a quick, like, miscommunication that leads to a pick, especially against a defense that is clamped. I mean, that is lockdown defense right there. But that's like obviously a miscommunication between the two, but that's going to go on Dak's shoulders for having the interception there. It's just

an interesting thing. Everybody wants to get Dak out of town. When I thought just a couple weeks ago he was the guy, and then what a wild time. I mean, he scored 30 points or whatever they scored on one of the better defenses against the Bucs. Cowboy's Twitter

account. Cowboy's Twitter account. The Cowboys Twitter account. The team that employs him, that pays him more money than anybody on that social media department, just buried him. Destroyed him. Buried him. It's like, damn. A week ago, they said he played his best game ever as a Cowboy. Of all time.

Yeah. This guy's the greatest. This is the greatest he's ever played. Now, oh, this guy stinks. Get him the fuck out of here. It's everybody's feeling. Yeah. It's crazy. What were we about to say, Tony, this guy stinks. Get him the fuck out of here. It's everybody's feeling. It's crazy.

What were we about to say, Tony? He had 37 touchdowns and 10 interceptions last year. That's pretty good. What was it this year? He's hurt. I don't know. I'll look it up. Yeah, and there were seven straight there.

We all know about it. I don't know what the math is. Connor has a question for you. You can go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Rob, a lot of talk right now about Jimmy G. There's no way they start him over Brock Purdy, right? He'll come back, or if he does come back, he'll be the backup just in case. Yeah, no way he's going to start, and I don't even know that he's really going to come back as the backup. He's now eight

weeks removed from the fracture. My understanding is it's more like a three-month injury than a two-month injury so he's not at the point now where he can like ramp up it's still considered to be too risky for him to be going out there and running and as of just i haven't checked in over the last two days but as of like three or four days ago he was still in a walking boot too so that doesn't sound i mean not too because mahomes wasn't but he was still in a walking boot so that doesn't sound, I mean, not two, because Mahomes wasn't, but he was still in a walking boot, so that doesn't sound like someone who's ready to go out there and run and be the backup. I guess anything is possible, but it doesn't sound like that's possible, not for this week and maybe not for the Super Bowl.

So Purdy just has to, and it's crazy that we're even having this conversation because they're in the middle of an incredible run. Purdy's the starter, though, right? I mean, this is, what are we doing? For this year, definitely the starter. And I mean, it's hard to imagine them starting anyone else next year. Now, maybe they come into camp and they say him and Trey Lance are competing, but even that, like, what more does he need to do? I get it because I'm sure if you're the 49ers, you're looking at this kid, you know where you drafted him, you know what you thought of him

in the process, you know what everyone else thought of him, which is someone who probably won't be drafted, and he was literally the last pick. But at some point, it doesn't matter where you're drafted. At some point, just how do you play? And how could he have played better? Yeah, I don't know. And he had a $50,000 signing bonus, probably. $65,000 signing bonus, probably $65,000 signing bonus or whatever. His contract is very small. You know, not that that needs to come into every

conversation, but it does. It should, especially because that's how the NFL is actually treated. Let's go to another quarterback. We heard her breaking news this weekend from Adam Schefter, a peer of yours, I do believe. He says that there is a real possibility. Real possibility of Aaron Rodgers being traded this offseason. What are you hearing? Is that an accurate assessment in your eyes? And I guess it is a real possibility. Could mean a lot of things. What does it mean to you?

I mean, it's not an impossibility. Oh, real possibility. Impossibility. So here's the thing about Rodgers being traded. Because of the way his contract is structured, a trade is possible. It's like you can do it financially. You can come up with the compensation. I think Green Bay likes what they have in Jordan Love.

So, like, if they got the right package, I think they could do a deal. It would be $60 million for one season somebody would pay him. That is what he's on the books for cash next year. So if you trade for Aaron, let's say you're the Jets. Let's say you're the Jets and you're like, all right, I'm going to, we're going to go all in and we're trading for Aaron Rodgers. You're going to be trading for a quarterback you're giving up a first round or four, I'm sure, probably more, and pay $60 million,

which would be by far the highest paid quarterback. So could do it, but that is an astronomical amount. It was a cold situation. You got to cut Matt Ryan first, I think. Well, Matt Ryan's going to be on TV. He is. He crushed. He is remarkable on television.

Is he? Yeah, he was on CBS. Really? He was on CBS this weekend. He was good. Wow. He was really good. He came on. Wow. He was really good. He came on our show.

He was really good. Yeah. Brought Steve Weiser. Yeah. Ice cold. What's why Ty has a question for you, right? Yeah.

Rep sheet. We heard Jonah Williams was potentially week to week. Is there any chance he goes next week? And also just from watching the Eagles giants game, it looked like Lane Johnson was really lumbering and kind of, you know, reaching for that, that injury quite a bit.

Is everything good with him, or are we just assuming, like, hey, they're just going to kind of beat him into the ground until he potentially can't go anymore? There's no choice. He's going to play. I mean, this is like a legitimately serious injury, and I believe the—so he's going to have surgery after the season, and then it's like several months of rehab to get back i mean this is like a real injury but lane johnson doesn't care because he's not a normal human and he's going to go out there and play and so like not going to be 100 not going to be close still probably not going to be able to take him off the field and i don't

believe he can injure himself worse like obviously he's going to be hurting but i don't think he can like tear it worse than it is so i would expect him um i would expect him to go out and play what was the other what was the first part jonah williams jonah williams uh go to him um one week is awfully quick for uh when you have sort of like a patella dislocation uh i would say the sublux or dislocation do you know did it go out and come back or is it still out? It went out and came back. So I guess it would be a subluxation would be. Although, well, I don't know.

I've had it described both ways. And I think what unfortunately happens with this particular injury is most people don't differentiate. So they kind of would just call it one or the other without really knowing. So I'm not sure which it is. Usually these are two to three weeks. Like when Mahomes did it four years ago, whenever that was, I think he missed two games or three games. So probably better chance of the Super Bowl. Kapp is another interesting one.

I wonder if he could play this week. Anko Sprain missed two games on his third week. They could get some guys back. It'll be interesting to see. Okay, let's talk about guys going back. Tom Brady's not going back to Tampa. Is that what you're hearing? I think you said that on NFL Game Day. Hey, I love that show, man.

I fucking love it. I do. I genuinely love that show. Your appearance was something. It was pretty good. Your appearance was something. It was something. I was laughing. It was something. It was certainly something. In was something. I was laughing. It was something. It was something. It was certainly something. I'll tell you what. No, I'll tell you in all seriousness.

So I'm sitting here at my desk. I'm working. I have my ear out so I can't hear the show. And I saw you come on. You know what I did? Put my ear in. No way. Holy shit.

That's awesome. Ticker? Let me hear what this guy's saying. Wanted to hear it. Yep. Man, I appreciate that. No, big thank you to the entire team over there for asking. That was very nice of them.

That was a cool email to receive. Yeah. You know, I've gone through my emails one morning. Hey, would you like to do this? Yeah, I would. I'm a big fan of that show. You guys run a good program. It is awesome.

Thank you. I think it's a very well-oiled machine. A lot of creative shit, though. A lot of resumes that are great. A lot of resumes that are great. A lot of great resumes. So you can get away with all that stuff. And the fact that the great resumes buy into everything even more. It's an incredible show.

It is phenomenal. Thank you. I love being on it. Yeah. You were the best part, honestly, Ian. You were the best part. There you go, Raf G. Maybe second best.

Maybe second best. Irvin is Superman. irvin is superman is one of the top dude spider-man oh my god can you believe they never let me dress up it's really no you dress up every day anyways tom brady not going back to tampa is what you said on there and uh that was breaking yeah that was kind of interesting uh you know, because they want him back, obviously. But when he – and then he did the thing with – I started to think about this because, you know, he's standing there at the podium talking to reporters, and he thanks them for their professionalism,

and he basically says it's been nice knowing you guys. And I'm like, that's interesting. So I reached out to some people I know, and they were like, during my interactions with him, it seemed like he was not coming back., it seemed like he was not coming back, like talked like he was not coming back. There was a finality to it. And I, you know, I think the Tampa Brady situation was really, really good. Won a Super Bowl, pretty incredible, everything you want. You know, they're getting a little older. There's going to have to be some retooling. Todd Bowles is bringing in his own offensive staff

like you know so i i just it feels like that relationship has run its course a little bit very mutually beneficial but the people i spoke with believe that he is leaving there and not coming back which will mean another off season of like where's tom brady going to go and very very interesting oh so he's going to the raiders of the jets he's going to the jets going back to the af? Everybody's talking about being in the Jets. He's going to the Jets, going back to the AFC East, saying, I want to live in a big city. Titans make some sense.

Oh, Tennessee Titans, who are allegedly going through a lot right now. Yeah, buying land down there. Oh, yeah, a lot of people love buying land down there. So many musicians and good times and Broadway. Zach Wilson's just a lazy sack of wine, as people are saying. No, no, that's not true. That was not true. Did you hear about that situation, Ian,

that happened to us with old Schultz on Friday? I heard. I caught wind of it. Yep. He's not? Our sources told us quickly after the show ended on Friday that everything that Schultz reported about Zach Wilson was false.

What? Yeah. So that's just what our sources told us. Come on. Schultz has his own sources. He does. I don't know if he's come out and said what his side of the whole thing is, but our sources have told us that that has never, ever happened.

Okay. Wow. Our sources also asked us, this team is being covered in New York City and in New Jersey with a lot of reporters. Don't you think one of our people would have got that Zach Wilson was late to meetings long before right now? Actually, when everyone hates his guts. Good call. That's a good point.

That's a good point. So we updated the news story, but that is, where is Tom going to go? Jets, maybe. Is that an actuality? I would imagine that is a possibility, yes. But you know who would know about Zach Wilson? Who's that? Is your friend Aaron Rodgers.

Apparently, they have a relationship. Because I heard a story, and I'm pretty sure it's true, that Rodgers calls Zach Wilson. Have we ever told you this story? No. Okay, Rodgers calls Zach Wilson in the summer, and it's a Friday at like 6. And they're chatting, and I guess Rodgers

had kind of helped him with some stuff and given him some advice, and at some point he stops and he's like, where are you right now? He's like, are you in the meeting room? He's like, yeah. You're in the facility at 6 o'clock on a Friday in the offseason? He's like, yeah. And Rodgers basically told him, like, get out of there.

You're going to lose your mind. Like, he works. Now, he needed to play better football this year. But works very hard. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no.

Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Schultz, he's ripping his hair out somewhere. Oh, no. Bad news. Oh, no.

Oh, jeez. Oh, no. I'll be serious. Thank you, Rap. Come down to Peru. Who told you that story? Who told you that story? Sources. Oh, Zach Wilson's dad.

All right. Ladies and gentlemen. I do not know Zach Wilson's dad, but he does seem to talk to some other people, yes. Whoa, whoa, whoa. The whole family. Hey, we appreciate you so much, ladies and gentlemen. You've had a great season thus far, dude. Keep killing it. Happier off the slopes and back in the office. Hell, yes. Whoa, whoa, whoa. The whole family. Hey, we appreciate you so much, ladies and gentlemen. You've had a great season thus far, dude. Keep killing it. Happier off the slopes

and back in the office. Hell yeah. I might go skiing tomorrow as a matter of fact. Jesus, rap! I gotta work. I gotta work. I gotta work to do. Zito has a question for you. Zito, what's that? No, I was saying Joe Burrow. Yeah, Ian, you reported on Joe Burrow this weekend. Is he gonna get all the money?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. On your IG story. Yeah, why'd you do on Joe Burrow this weekend. Is he going to get all the money? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. On your IG story. Yeah, why'd you do it on your IG story? Nonetheless, great IG stories. You do fantastic. But you break on there. Cincinnati is financially ready to make a long-term deal because business is thriving. I know you've got to get out of here.

What is that in a nutshell? You're just here and they're working on it? Let me be quick. It was really, yeah, it hasn't started yet, to be fair. It hasn't started yet. And he's going to be one of the highest paid. This is the offseason. They want to do it.

Obviously, he deserves it. There's no question. It's just how rich is he going to get? I was actually really interested. Naming rights. Naming rights to an indoor facility. They have, like, an internet carrier. They have their own official canned cocktail, which I love canned cocktails.

Oh, wow. It's tremendous. Damn. Bengal, wow. It's tremendous. Oh, damn. Bengal booze. It's like they are, and it's not that they're thriving because Burrow needs a new contract. They're thriving in part because he opened the door to all these opportunities. So the whole thing is like a wagon. It's very cool what's going on in Cincy.

We're very happy for him. We're also very happy for you and appreciative of you. Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rapko. Yay! Rap sheet, bring in the news. Yeah, very happy for him. We're also very happy for you and appreciative of you. Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rapko. Rap Sheet, bring in the news. Yeah, I can't believe. Thank you for reminding me back there, boys. The Joe Burrow news is a big deal for the city of Cincinnati. You know, him saying he's going to be one of the highest paid quarterbacks,

my immediate response is one of the highest. What else does this guy have to do? But also, maybe Joe Burrow says, yeah, I want to build a team. Yeah, exactly. The NFLPA, the NFLPA would be very anti-Joe Burrow says, like, yeah, I want to build a team. Yeah, exactly. The NFLPA, okay, the NFLPA would be very anti-Joe Burrow giving the Cincinnati Bengals any type of discount. I would like to say, as a person that enjoys players making all the money in the world, in the world, I love it.

I like to see every player make a billion dollars. I think it's okay if a player allows for more money to be allotted in other places on a roster for a team that he plays on. Because I think if a team is good and goes to the Super Bowl and gets all the lights and the eyes and the attention that a team that is built greatly would be able to have, you'd be able to make so much money as well in the bigger picture. rightly would be able to have, you'd be able to make so much money as well in the bigger picture. So I think you can zoom out a little bit and say what's good for the goose is good for the gander. If your team is great, everything else is probably going to be great as well for you. Very rarely do the quarterbacks that are on a shitbox team get all the commercials and the money and everything you can make off the field business-wise if we're strictly talking about how much money you take

for your contract with an NFL team. Now, break the bank, break the record. Joe Burrow certainly deserves it. But if he takes the stance where, yeah, you're going to have to pay me a lot of fucking money to play football, but I don't need you guys to leverage the entire team off of my contract and does this, and chooses to allow the Bengals to, and they go on and do it too. Like Tom Brady would take pay cuts and then they wouldn't spend the money

where like it would benefit Tom at all. They would take the money from Tom's contract and then just say like, yeah, fuck you Tom pretty much is how Tom was saying it. Not that Bill Belichick actually did that, but that's what some people from TB12's camp have said. And I think the Bengals wouldn't mind paying Jamar Chase, right? Exactly. And then being able to keep all his weapons around.

Offensive line, if they find one. Not that the guys weren't bad. The guys were great this year until everybody got hurt. Keep them around. Being able to protect Joe so he can continue to make these playoff runs where Joey B can be Joey B. And they'll call him Joey Snow and Joey Cool and Joey Burr and everything like that. Everything else will come financially as well if that keeps happening.

And I think they can do that. So I would like the NFLPA to not necessarily get as pissed with Joey Burrow if he does decide to do that. Yeah, and it feels like no matter what, none of these quarterbacks are going to get that Watson deal just because of how absurd it is and how cap-stricted it makes your team, if that's the right terminology for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It really does kind of cripple the team when it comes to being able to spend other money. Now, the cap is not real.

Yeah, it's not real. There's a cash-over-cap manipulation thing that teams are doing. Now, it hasn't been able to pay off for some of the teams because some of the players that are at their older ages that you thought maybe you'd be able to get two, three years out of, you're only getting like one year out of. So if you can get like a good two, three-year run, I think that would be considered a massive smashing success with this cash over cap manipulation. But that has not been the case thus far, and we have to acknowledge that.

You also raise a good point because I feel like I'm sure like locally he has a bunch of stuff, but I feel like Joe Burrow isn't in any like national commercials. That's the thing is like is he so focused on football? And then you see like the Baker Mayfield side of it where it's like that guy couldn't, you know, didn't turn down any commercials, was on every fucking channel. But like, I mean, that I guess would be the other part of it, right? on every fucking channel. But, like, I mean, that I guess would be the other part of it, right,

is like after this season and all of a sudden he's, you know, sleep number says bye-bye, Dak. You know, we want Joe Burrow. Well, Dak is going to need that sleep number, man. And hopefully that thing will get – I think he's – I don't remember what he says, number 8262, something like that. Probably going to soften that one up. Yeah, he's going to need sleep number. Give yourself a hug. Give yourself a hug.

Give yourself a hug from that bed, Dak. He likes a little bit with Tash. Hey, everybody's coming. Everybody's coming after Dak. That Cowboys Twitter account, I've mentioned it four or five times now. That was crazy. That is crazy. We haven't even chatted about the Eagles.

I mean, what they did. Start spreading the news. I'm leaving today. I want to be a part of it. New Jersey. Sirianni. Bruce. Bruce, hell of a run by those Giants.

Good season, Bruce. Best in the office. Hell yeah, Bruce. What was it like just watching that whole thing happen? Oh, fuck. I mean, that was bad. Oh, my God. Bro, Sirianni.

Yeah. In the fucking camera. He knew. Tomlin back in there. There's a couple Tomlin ones of him doing this to the camera. Because in the moment. Oh, yeah. Sirianni's on the field.

Yeah. That motherfucker's talking shit to refs. Right. I know what I'm fucking doing. I'm allowed to be here. Okay. Okay. Fucking everything about him is awesome.

It is awesome. So sweet. Just absolute dog. And they dog walked y'all, man. But a hell of a run for the Giants, right? That's how we're all viewing it. People are saying Daniel Jones no more. Is that happening?

They're blaming him? I do think that $30 million certainly seems less likely than it did last week. That's a shame. But, yeah, they just got dominated in every phase of the game. Even offensively, if you change the game plan, do a few things differently, can't stop Miles Sanders and the Eagles rushing attack, you're never going to beat them. 260.

You know how you talk about indicator rolls sometimes. Yeah. A lot of people are saying that about Friday. Friday afternoon what happened on this show was an indicator roll for what was going to happen on Saturday. Hey, that was rude. Some people were saying some mean stuff to old Brucey, blue-collar Bruce. Yeah, don't kick him off.

It's all right. I saw you weren't responding. Way to stay above it. That is smart. Way to stay above it, Bruce. Good man, Bruce. One man had it down to the scores almost. Yep.

4-0 on the weekend, picking against the spread. Live from his attic in Ohio, college football national champion, Super Bowl champion. What? All-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers, Ryder Cup champion, COVID survivor, A.J. Hawkins. Yeah! A.J.!

What's up? Thank you, A.J. Thank you, A.J.! A.J., we thank you, pal. Superboosts have been hard to come by. They've been tough to get this year. We passed the reins of the Superboost horse around this office numerous times, and not one of those horses ended up in victory lane.

We lost a lot on these Superboosts. And just yesterday, your big-ass brain completed a weekend sweep of 4-0. Cincinnati Bengals' money line in Buffalo. Niners' money line. they had Ezekiel Elliott at center AJ your big brain boost your hotness right now on calling games I want us all a lot of money we appreciate it how'd you know AJ how'd you know genius I went off pure instincts on how I felt on these uh this week for sure didn't overthink it, and I'm glad they all hit, man. Obviously, the Jacksonville one came in late for us, for sure.

Yeah, I'd say. It certainly was a rough way for me to start. That was a tough one. I said, look at me. I was actually excited I picked the Chiefs because I had been picking the Jags all week. And then while we're doing the picking segment, I go, oh, something inside me just said, Showtime, Patty Mahomes. Something inside me just told me, I go, oh, something inside me just said, Showtime, Patty Mahomes. Something inside me just told me, Travis Kelsey, oh, my God, Jacksonville just had their Super Bowl.

That literally happened in a moment. I'm going with the Chiefs because I love the Chiefs. I'm watching that game unfold. Look here, 30 seconds left. Riley Patterson, I mean, he's been dancing with the upright all game. Maybe there's a chance he misses this field goal. Nope, makes it, bang. How'd A.J. know?

How'd he know? A.J. knew that this was going to happen. A.J. knew that Patty Mahomes maybe wasn't going to be able to play his best football. Now let's move on. Let's move forward here and talk about this weekend before Travis Kelsey joins us. That's a big deal if Patrick Mahomes is able to move or not. That's a huge deal, especially against his Bengals team that went into Buffalo and got a win. You can talk about whatever, however.

What were your thoughts on the weekend since you knew all of it was going to happen? Well, Mahomes, obviously, gutsy performance. It was fun to watch him navigate that ankle injury. No matter how he feels, he's going to be playing this week. I think you guys said Tony claims he's not playing, right? Tony said there's a chance. Tony said there's a chance. He didn't use real possibility like Schefter describing Aaron traded.

He played this game. He played this game. He's not going to sit out the next game. Well, Tony said, well, Jim. He said. Jim, adrenaline gets you so far. I think he's going to swell up the size of a water balloon, Jim. Yeah, it will.

He said Wednesday was going to be tough. He said Wednesday you're not going to be able to walk. Probably have to have crutches and everything. And he said there's a chance he doesn't play next week or he's not sure he's going to play next week. He said Wednesday you're not going to be able to walk. Probably have to have crutches and everything. And he said there's a chance he doesn't play next week or he's not sure he's going to play next week. He finished that game. If he wasn't going to play this game, I think that would go against everything that Patrick Mahomes has kind of radiated, which is

he's a fucking tough guy. He's old school. He's a tough guy, professional athlete. Now, Andy Reid described it as a tweak. What does that mean, I wonder? What does that mean? Smart. I mean, what could he say? He could be Mike McCarthy and say he has a lower body. Patrick does, and he's going to work through it this week

and be all right. That's all he can say. I will get to the NFC side soon, with Mike McCarthy being a topic of the conversation, especially with that last play being, once again, worst play. Yeah, not even close. Worst play. What if it worked? Well, yeah, I mean, there's other plays that are considered

worst play in the history of the NFL, but what if they weren't? You know, a lot of plays. What if it worked? What if it worked? Well, yeah, I mean, there's other plays that are considered worst plays in the history of the NFL, but what if they worked? You know, a lot of plays. What if they worked? But that play, worst play, history of the NFL. We'll get into that. But let's talk about you calling the Bengals going into Buffalo, especially with DeMar Hamlin there.

He did not lead the team out in the four-wheeler, was in a side-by-side, though. So I thought there was a moment there before that game kicked off where I'm like, this fucking guy, he's standing in the back of that side-by-side with a flag. He's coming out there. I thought that was maybe happening. Obviously, it did not. He was in.

He was out. He was up in an elevator. He was in a suite. He was through a blurry camera, snowy shot, because it was snowing hard up there doing this. But I didn't think there was a chance you could go into Buffalo and get a win, especially with all that was taking place. You knew it was going to happen. Joey B is a real deal, AJ.

This guy is the fucking real deal. I mean, yeah, we can talk to Joey B. It's just everything about him is poised. Whatever he does, he seems to be in ultimate control. But their defense, too. I think I mentioned it before. This defense is no joke. And there's a lot at stake. Those guys, the Bengals really, they were pissed.

They were pissed about the whole pre-sale tickets and everything. We saw the comments afterwards. I think especially on the road with something like that, your team can kind of thrive off of that energy. I think Zach was using it, wasn't he? Yes. I think they all had it. You can't manufacture that stuff. I think if you try to manufacture it, it doesn't really work. But when it think they all had you can't manufacture that stuff i think if

you try to manufacture it it doesn't really work but when it's real and the whole team feels it then you see what happens like what a team can do yeah but to be clear and i'm a big underdog guy spike guy i mean i i i haven't michael jordan'd in a restaurant oh that's all i needed when the guy the guy just said good luck like i don't think I've gone that far. But, like, logistically, they had to sell this. Yeah. You never tried to. You know, logistically, they kind of had to do that, you know? But I do like the fact that it is very evident

that they did not take that into consideration at all in the locker room. And Zach Taylor even, we're just ruining all the NFL's plans. Oh, sorry. Sorry about it. Sorry we're just ruining all these plans. I love Sorry. Sorry about it. Sorry we're just ruining all these. I love that. I enjoy that in those team meetings, he puts up a headline, 50,000 tickets sold to neutral site AFCG.

There are already 50,000. All these people. I feel like we got a glimpse into the team meeting room there, didn't you? Isn't that what you felt? I honestly felt that way. It works out beautifully. Let's see what happens this week, what they come up with this week, I feel like.

I just love rolling into one of those team meetings before the game, and then Zach comes in and just him putting that up on it. Go ahead and put that. I don't know if you guys saw this this morning. I thought it was something I should share with you. 50,000 tickets have been sold to this AFC championship game between the Bills and the Chiefs. The NFL is promoting it.

Everybody wants this. Literally everybody. A little old Cincinnati. That whole thing. That's an awesome, awesome glimpse into the locker room. I don't know if they need it, that group. It seems like they've got a lot of dogs out there. I don't want this to be a full, you know, boom.

You say that, but I was going to say tug session. We'll just knock them both out. Both of them out. But that dude's fucking different, bro. Like that warm-up, that warm-up video, that warm-up shot of him spinning and throwing. Like just your teammates seeing your quarterback like that, just on the field, in warm-up video, that warm-up shot of him spinning and throwing, like just your teammates seeing your quarterback like that, just on the field in warm-ups, like that radiates, dude. That's why Tom Brady is Tom Brady.

That's why the teams that Tom Brady's on win, because that type of shit is shown. It's remarkable that he's so young and so perfect for the role that he has, especially being an Ohio fuck for this Bengals team, AJ. Honestly, it's perfect. I mentioned it before. It's like a movie. It's like a script in a movie if you wrote it.

Well, don't say that. Oh, AJ. Don't say that. Well. Leaking information. What happened? Are we on conspiracies now? Yeah, leaks fixed.

Don't say that. He said script, so they wrote it. What's this guy's deal? It's on Reddit right now. It's on Reddit right now. AJ Hawk confirms. It's on Reddit right now. It's on Reddit right now.

AJ Hawk confirms. AJ Hawk, man who also went 4-0 this past weekend, confirms that NFL is rigged. How does Cincinnati Bengals end up with number one overall pick after a guy had to transfer from one school to another, then he ends up back in, NFL is rigged. Of course. It's been going on a lot longer than we could have imagined. That's a real conversation that's happening because the NFL is so absurd. And it is crazy.

Some of the stories that come out of the NFL, which just makes no sense. But Joey Burrow being like Ohio guy for this team that is radiating with Ohio. Cincinnati is a pretty Ohio fuck-filled place. Yeah, you could say that for sure. Very Ohio in Cincinnati and surrounded Dayton in Ohio, right? Cincinnati's a pretty Ohio fuck-filled place. Yeah, you could say that for sure. Very Ohio in Cincinnati and surround Dayton in there, right? Dayton's in there. Even the Kentucky people coming over the border. Yeah, a lot of players live in Kentucky. Yeah, that's a super Ohio-y place.

What a perfect just – and they go into Buffalo. And last year they go into Kansas City and into Tennessee. Like going into these places. And it's awesome. And they're financially ready, they said. Financially capable for an extension for Joey Burrow this offseason. Get that done. What a play.

Get it done and you can start working on the rest of them. You're not going to be able to keep everybody. But let's see. Hopefully they can keep like a core together for sure. Yeah, and they might not be able to keep everybody, but let's see. Hopefully they can keep a core together for sure. They might not be able to keep everybody, but isn't Cincinnati kind of like a destination now? Players probably want to go play with Burrow and be a part of what they have built

over there. So sure, they might not be able to keep everybody because some guys like T. Higgins, they haven't been paid yet and they still need that first massive contract, but who says they can't go and get veteran guys who might be free agents or get cut who have already been paid, like Keenan Allen. People will ring hunt with great quarterbacks.

Yeah, exactly. And like C.J. Uzama. Boom. He went and got paid. He had to go. He got to go get paid. That's going to have to happen, and that is one of the things that takes place whenever you have a quarterback in a place for a long time.

There's different chapters almost of that quarterback with that team. It's been in a lot of different places. I'm pumped for this Bengals team. Oh, yeah. Like legit shoot pump for them because they're fun to watch. They are fun to watch on TV. And then it's Bill's team. AJ, did you hear what Connor said earlier?

It was disgusting. What did he say about it? Okay, Connor, quickly, if you can summarize your feelings on your life as a football fan being from new england yeah bill think that they have won super bowls the past three years before they've even made it to a competitive afc championship game and they're putting the cart before all 10 of their horses that they need to do okay so basically they act as though they've won Super Bowls and have won MVPs and have done anything significant past a division title.

Andy Reid is speaking to the media, is what I was being told in my ear while he was burying the Buffalo Bills Mafia fans, who have another heartbreaker. And I didn't expect this from the Buffalo Bills team to be out this early, but once again, there's only four teams left. Bingo. Okay, there's only a couple spots. There's only a couple spots. That AFC was deep.

We've been talking about it. There's going to be an odd person, odd team left out this year. It's the Buffalo Bills. And New England Patriots fans feel like they're never going to be able to win if they weren't able to win with this team, how good this team was. But they didn't have Vaughn Miller. Remember, Vaughn Miller was a massive piece that was added to the team from last year. What does Vaughn do in a massive piece that was added to the team from last year.

What does Vaughn do in the game for the Buffalo Beals? Who knows? But that's going to happen in the NFL, and they're just all man out. Yeah, a lot of guys on the Bengals' offensive line who are out too. But you didn't see them crying about it. All right, let's go pivot away from that situation in Buffalo. Hell of a year, Buffalo. Great year, Buffalo.

It's hard to remember that right now. Hang that division title banner. You did it. You fucking did it. Let's go to the other side of the AFC matchup. In his opening statement on Zoom, Andy Reid said that Patrick Mahomes does indeed have a right high ankle sprain. He's worked hard on the treatment and is doing okay, Reid said of Mahomes. So as soon as the game ended, this guy is getting treatment on his ankle.

A little stem, a little ice. What else do you think? What else is going on in the high ankle sprain? Compression wrap. You got compression wrap to keep that thing. I'm sure it'll turn black and blue and travel up your leg. Keep that thing elevated for sure. Got to keep it moving too, though.

That's the problem. When that gets stiff, that's when it's really hard. It's tough to move. And he rolled it inside as well, which I think hurts worse. So high is worse than low, right? Yeah, but does it mean like high on your ankle or does it just mean high meaning how you sprain it, I guess? So I think it is a – there's certainly a difference

between a low ankle and a high ankle. High ankle is worse than a low ankle. I don't know exactly what the difference is. High ankle is what the Bama players and a lot of guys were getting that tightrope surgery for, I thought. Yeah, because it was worse. It was significantly worse than a low ankle sprain. I feel like high ankle usually

guys miss like four to six weeks, whereas just a regular low ankle sprain, guys either play in or play, you know, it's one to two weeks. He'll play. He's definitely going to play. He's going to come out with Matt Ryan tape tank. Yes. A lot of Toradol.

We saw more in Toradol, I assume. Good. I assume, right? Feeling loose. What else? I mean, what else are you going to put him on? I don't know. Is there more stuff?

I was assuming there was something more. Morphine? Yeah, Vicodin? I don't think so. Not these days. I don't think that's a thing, no. Man, what a baller. Yeah.

What if you could get him late? Joining us now is a man who has been on the field basically every moment of old Patty Mahomes' big moment career. And this guy, statistically, is not only becoming greatest tight end of all time, but maybe greatest pass catcher, ball catcher in the history of the NFL. He's also a host of an incredible podcast alongside his brother called the New Heights Pod. Ladies and gentlemen, first ballot Hall of Famer, as soon as it's eligible, Travis Kelsey. What's going on, ladies and gentlemen?

How we doing, guys? Dude. I appreciate you guys always having me on the show baby I got excited when you shot me a text last night man Okay good I'm happy to hear that Because I get really worried whenever I text people to come on the show Because I don't want to waste any time of your life I know you're in the middle of something important

Thank you for taking time We appreciate you I haven't jumped on yet this year man We do this thing annually baby I. I know. This is my new thing, though. I just don't ask people to come on the show anymore. That's my new thing. I feel terrible doing it. It's a tough... Every time I try and get... I'm new to

the situation, and I can't ask anybody. I couldn't even ask Pat. I couldn't even ask Pat to jump on my show. It's weird, isn't it? I know you got a lot of studying to do. You want to come talk football, though? Yeah, yeah. Well, that's the thing.

It's like I don't want to waste any time out of anybody's life. I'd be very appreciative if you come on the show, so I never want to interrupt. Your show, though, people will be wanting to come on immediately. It's amazing. Hey, you need to know this. There's a lot of shows out there, and we don't need to go through every single one of them.

There's a lot of shows that come out, obviously, from players, and we're all supportive of everything i want players to be rich forever i want to be successful everybody's story is worth money i think the nflpa needs to start telling people that more in like workshops and stuff like that but you and your brother's show is a fucking top two top three show in the world right now dude when you guys are chopping it up it is so fucking great i'm thankful you're doing it. Honestly, you enjoying the hell out of it, I assume? I'm enjoying the living shit out of it, man.

It's so much fun sitting down with my brother. It's like a dinner table or a bar conversation every single time we do this thing, man. I would have never thought that it got to this point this fast, but doing New Heights with Jason has been refreshing, man.

It gives me something fun to do throughout the week. And you guys paved the way, though. You guys have been doing it the right way and gave us the confidence to be able to, you know, want to tell our stories and eventually bring in all of our friends to be able to tell our stories like you guys have done, man. Man, your show is much better than ours, so just fucking keep it moving, pal. Go ahead, AJ. We're all a bunch of lucky guys doing fucking stupid shit like this for a done, man. Well, your show is much better than ours, so just fucking keep it moving, pal. Go ahead, AJ. We're all a bunch of lucky guys doing fucking stupid shit like this

for a living, baby. Amen. Amen. You're doing it very well. Go ahead, AJ. Hey, how did you feel about the game yesterday, everything you're doing? Obviously, if a team can find a way to stop you, which nobody can, that's why everyone said, hey, you've got to find a way to stop Kelsey,

not let him beat you guys. How do you always find the open space? And you and Pat, it seems like you're on the same wavelength at all times. Man, it's obviously a lot of reps going to all that, man. And then the defense has to be able to stop Coach Reed's offense. There's so many, as you know, there's so many moving parts. There's so many motions and formations and personnels that you have to account for and the things that we do out within those strategies. There's a lot more going on than, hey, it's third down. Let's make sure we keep an eye on this one guy.

There's things that they have to be accounted for all over the football field. And that's a guy like Kadarius Toney, a guy like Marquez Valdez-Scantling, a guy like Juju Smith-Schuster, Pops Pacheco, Jet McKinnon out of the backfield. There's so many weapons that you have to account for to be able to just say, you know, we need to stop this one guy. It's obviously a lot harder than just saying that. But we put a lot of pride on being able to spread the ball around and everybody get a little piece of the pie. So it's been fun, man.

Okay, so whenever Tyreek left, they said that now defenses are going to be able to maybe put a couple people on you and be able to handle everybody. Have you seen that? Is that something that you've faced your entire career? And do you know whenever you're getting either like a shade or three three three sets of eyes on you and on whenever the game started against Jacksonville did you know immediately how they were going to cover you the rest of the game uh I felt I felt like uh how they played me last game I kind of

had a clue on what they were going to do they They didn't run as much man double or man bracket, where the first game I got quite a bit of bracket in terms of, like, a guy being on me on the line of scrimmage and somebody kind of having eyes on me over the middle of the field. But, yeah, I mean, it's just attacking the defense however they want to present themselves, man. And even if they are double teaming me, man, you got to have the mentality that you can't get doubled.

You just got to keep finding ways to get open because obviously one five and even Chad Haney can find a way to get the ball to you, baby. How about Chad Haney, man? You guys expected that as soon as his own ass stepped in. Hendo, baby. I love rocking with that dude. Obviously it's a crazy situation and a crazy scenario, man. But Chad Haney is always ready, baby. I know, AJ, I know you guys got that. I got a little AJ back here. Oh! Ohio football while we're talking the Michigan Wolverines right now.

But showing some love to AJ, man. I think Chad Henney's always freaking prepared, man. And you want to talk about a guy that's always in the building, talking ball, just being a great teammate, man, leading the guys, even though he's one snap away from being in the game like he was this Sunday, and then just always prepared and ready to go out there and ball, man. That's awesome. Man, Trev, what did you think of Pat when he went down with his ankle

and he's over there on the sidelines arguing with Andy Reid and the trainers and everything, and then you see him run in, all of this stuff. What were your initial thoughts? Did you think he was out for the game? The way he was still on the sideline, I had a feeling that he was going to try and get back in the game. I mean, usually if a guy goes into the locker room or goes off the field for an injury,

you don't see him come back out onto the field unless he's going to try and get back out, you know what see him come back out onto the field unless he's gonna try and get back out out you know what i mean uh get back in the game yeah so there was always kind of that sitting over the top of my head thinking that he was gonna get back in but it's just a mentality you have to have no matter who it is you know i've unfortunately been a part of you know when pad comes goes off the field when tyreek has been off the field you know what i mean got in very impactful players uh leave the game, when Tyreek has been off the field, you know what I mean? Very impactful players leave the game because they're injured.

You have to have the next man in mentality, man. And it is what it is. No matter how great that player is leaving, the next guy's got to be able to step in and provide, you know, success for us, man. Just be able to go in there and ball, man. And sure enough, that's what Chad did, baby. Yeah, and I think Chad was a great representative of your entire program over there because I feel like you're a very details-oriented crew, right? I mean, a lot of personalities, a lot of success,

obviously a lot of highlights and showtime and everything like that in primetime. I feel like you guys are one of the most details-oriented crew over there. Is that how Andy Reid operates? And do you think he ever gets enough credit? I love how you're just like big red this, big red that. That's an incredible amount of respect you have for him. I feel like we don't really talk much about him just because he's like cheeseburgers and stuff

like that. Honestly, that's a real thing. I don't think we talk about him enough. I don't think it's talked about enough either, man. The guy's a guru when it comes to being able to get anybody open. I said it the other day, man. He could draw up a play to get my dad a first down in the National Football League. He

finds ways to just get me wide-ass open, to get guys in space one-on-one. I mean, if you can get me or anybody like that, I love the opportunity of just getting me one-on-one with somebody. If I can get that situation, I feel like I can have the upper hand in that situation, I feel like I can, you know,

have the upper hand in that situation. And Coach Reed does an unbelievable job of just finding ways to attack defenses week in, week out to just, you know, always keep them in a reactionary position. And I tell everybody all the time I owe all my success to this guy for kind of expanding the tight end role in this offense for me, especially in the receiving game. And, yeah, I don't see myself ever, you know, playing for another head coach, especially another offensive mind like Andy Reid.

Yeah, you guys have been a tag team that has been fantastic to watch. You're in the GOAT discussion, bro. Come on, man. Hey. Hell yeah. Hey, come on. You're old. That means you're old. That means you're fucking old. But also, hey, man, you're in the GOAT discussion, bro. Come on, man. Hey. Hell yeah. Hey, come on. You're old. That means you're

old. That means you're fucking old. Also, hey, man, you're in the GOAT discussion, dude. You're well-deserved, bro. Happy for you, man. Listen, man, I've been so freaking fortunate to be able to play this game and have some fun out here in Kansas City going crazy for the Chiefs' kingdom, man. We got a fun one coming up. Championship

Sunday this weekend, baby. The Bengals playing their tails off playing what looks like their best football. I feel like we're playing our best football. It's going to be Sunday this weekend, baby. The Bengals playing their tails off playing what looks like their best football. I feel like we're playing our best football. It's going to be a great game, man. Did you ever meet that bank robber guy? Oh, yeah. No, I have not met him. I have not met him.

I wanted to. Actually, I might have shaken his hand and didn't know I was shaking his hand because I think he's actually been at Pat's Foundation events. Yeah, yeah. He bought a pretty expensive painting. I might have shaken his hand in passing and didn't even know I was, you know, shaking the hand of a legend. That guy was robbing banks.

Come watch you guys play football. You've had an incredible run. Can the boys ask a couple questions? Yeah, you know it, baby. Connor, go ahead, pal. Yeah, Travis, obviously yesterday we all saw how your mom traveled from KC to Philly in the same day to watch you and Jason's game. How does she do that?

Is that scheduled out to the minute? And then also, is she putting all of her money on the Bengals and the Niners so she doesn't have to experience you and the Chiefs versus Jason and the Eagles? No, no. Mom definitely wants a Kelsey Super Bowl, 1,000%. She'll cheer for the offense if it ever happens. She doesn't have to cheer for anybody on the defensive side. But she's a superstar, and I love Twitter world and social media

for playing into it and having fun with her. She has a blast trying to get to all the games, but obviously this upcoming Sunday, Both of our games being on Sunday She'll be up in Philly Since she was in KC this past weekend What a year for you guys to launch a fucking podcast Genius Dude

Smart Huh? Hey, hey, hey It's gotta be rigged, man This is crazy No, don't say it Don't say it, dude This is too much fun.

We're having too much damn fun, man. Too many people. Oh, my God. The script is leaked. Reddit is going bananas. Yeah. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Well, I don't know if they can script a better tight end.

You broke like four records just in the last game. You are. Hey, you're fucking killing it, dude. Oh, yeah. You're fucking killing it. Your last seven playoff games. I assume you know this, but Hembo're fucking killing it, dude. Oh, yeah. You're fucking killing it. Your last seven playoff games, I assume you know this, but Hembo from ESPN put it out. Obviously, 14 for 98 yards, two tuds.

10 for 95 and a tud. 8 for 96 and a tud. 5 for 108. 10 and 133. 13, 118. And two tuds. 8 for 109. It's like you come alive in the playoffs.

Is there any reason why? Is there any reason why or what? Just get fired up, baby. Woo! Yeah! You kidding me? It's win you come alive in the playoffs. Is there any reason why? Is there any reason why or what? Just get fired up, baby. Woo! Yeah! You kidding me? It's win or go home. And now you got to put everything out there, put it all on the line, man,

and go out there and just play your best football. I get more excited. I want to press fast forward from this point on every single year to this point. You know what I mean? To playoff football, there's nothing better than NFL playoff football. Everybody's sitting down getting hyped for every single play, every single football situation that matters. Man, the stakes are high, baby, and I love being on that field going crazy,

especially in Arrowhead, man. Dude, there's so many stories that come from literally every play in the playoffs. I love that you recognize that. Right now, I don't know if you know this, Dak Prescott is in the XFL next year. The guy can't play football. Mike McCarthy, he's fucking coaching in the USFL.

That's what playoff football is, though, and I love that you respect that. Tone has a question for you. Is it like, you're rolling offense a feel, and how often are you surprised? Because I feel like you come off the line, especially in the red zone, and you're just like, fuck fuck no one's around me i'm just gonna sit this thing down right here and obviously pat finds you and you get in all the time um yeah like i said there's

there's there's certain things that go on in this offense in terms of scheme that uh that just get you know guys attention going other directions and uh i was i'm fortunate that you know i'm even in the game, let alone in the game plan that much in the red zone. You know, I put a lot of pride and a lot of honor in being accountable for these guys, especially in situations like that, knowing how much touchdowns matter in the playoffs and putting up seven matters.

But I feel like this offense has grown so much, and Coach Reed's given not only myself but all the receivers and all the backs and all the tight ends opportunities to grow within it. And what that means is, you know, if there's something that Pat likes or if there's a certain route or a certain way I can run my route depending on what the defense is doing that Pat likes, you know, why not make it easier on 1-5 back there or Chad Handy or whoever's back there, quarterback, man.

So, you know why a lot of it works though is because you're such a monster blocking. Yeah. Why dude? Gotta get after it, baby. You gotta get dirty, man. You gotta get dirty in the playoffs, baby. Yeah. You gotta get your face in the fan every time, baby.

You gotta love that shit. I saw Harrison Bucker do that. Literally tackled a guy with his face. Hell yeah. Literally tackled a guy with his face. Big time tackle. I'll tell you what, that Rick Turner, man, he was hitting it. He was a problem.

When a guy catches that thing on the run like that and just flies fearlessly, I mean, that gets you going. That's a momentum booster for sure. Yeah, that guy was a real problem. Harrison Bucker said, let me run my face into that. But there's been a lot of big time special teams plays. Agnew is a beast. Boom, tacked him in the face.

Oh, boy, Harry. Oh, boy, Harry. Is's what you call him? Harry? Harry. Harrison Bucker, baby. Yeah, he's a dog, huh? What happened? He had a sprained ankle this year. Was that this year? Listen, I know he was just nailing them a few 50 yarders in the snow or the

sleet or wherever we were playing in Arrowhead this past weekend. So he's rolling right now. Guy's got a mask. He ain't nothing holding Harry back from hitting some big-time kicks for us. Okay, we're going to start calling him Harry from now on. Ty has a question. I'm not sure if he loves it, but he – Travis, speaking of all the records you've broken this year

and your playoff success, Pat and AJ always talk about the NFL just being Groundhog's Day while you're in the season. And I assume you're aware of how fucking good you are, but do you get to sit back and just reflect like, oh shit, I just had 14 receptions in a playoff game just on this past weekend. Is it something where you'll look back at the end of the season? Can you not do that while the season's going on? But how difficult is it not to kind of enjoy what you're doing?

I mean, granted, you do it week in, week out, but how do you not enjoy what you're doing as you're going? I love this shit every day, man. I absolutely love coming into work. I love going into practice, the grind of working through the discomfort to be able to be on time, to be able to be perfect come Sunday. I love every aspect of coming into work and getting better, man. And when you have that mentality, you kind of just, I don't want to say you black out,

but the routine of the week and how you attack your week and you attack your day, it just flies by, man. Time flies when you're having fun. I just love it, and I enjoy coming into work with these guys every single day and every single week. So the year kind of flies by. It gets a little static there around week 10 to, like, 15, but you can always get juiced up towards the end of the season,

especially holidays come around, New Year's comes around, and then playoff football is right around the corner. I've been fortunate to be able to play in these big-time games. Hell, yeah. Trav, what are your thoughts on all these alien sightings being made public recently? I know you mentioned earlier about something having to be scripted. What are your thoughts on all of that going on? Yeah, you might be one, though.

Yeah. Honestly. Big on aliens. Big on aliens. My dad actually had a computer set aside that was hooked up to some speakers when I was a kid for satellite radio in space. I'm telling you, that thing used to make some weird sounds. It used to make some really weird sounds, especially at awkward times in the night when you're just sitting there as a 10-year-old kid in your room.

This is awesome. Where is this now? Is your dad still doing this? I'm not sure. I'm not sure if he gave up on that dealer. Was he sending anything to them or he was just trying to hear back? Highlights? That's a great question.

I think I need to dive deep more into this thing. I just remember asking him what it was and he said, it's just radio waves in space. It could be. I said, it's just radio waves in space. It could be. But I'm a firm believer, man. They're out there, baby.

You might be one, honestly, at this stage of the game and watching what you do. We got 10 years left. Are you even thinking about that? Never. I'll tell you, man. I'm enjoying coming into work every single day. So I don't plan on leaving this thing anytime soon. That's a danger. Well, we're lucky for that then.

Good luck the rest of the way. We appreciate you making time. That picture of AJ right over your shoulder there is classic. Go, Centerville. Hey, go, Elks. Go, Elks. Go, Elks. Go, Ohio football, baby.

Hey, that's right. The Ohio Fox have mastered the sport of football, and two of them have a podcast called The New Heights Pod, and it is amazing. We can't thank you enough, ladies and gentlemen, Travis Kelsey. The man sitting to my left, your right, is a man who got the super boost right for us just yesterday. That's A.J. Ha.

The baby A.J. The baby A.J. Thank you, A.J. Thank you. Thank you, yes. A you. Thank you, yes. AJ, anything to say to the thousands? Hey, thousands! Of people that rode alongside your big brain super boost just yesterday?

I appreciate it. What was it? It got up to what? Plus 500, right? That's how we had it? Yeah, it was a plus 370 bet, which is a great bet, by the way. Great odds. Good hit.

Got boosted to plus 500. That's a big-time boost. Shout out to Fando for doing that. It hasn't been – that's an amazing boost to hit plus 500. That's one of the ones you like too, AJ. It felt like that one was in your bread basket. You're in your bag right now, AJ. You are in your bag, sir.

Well, you know, I like it. It's got to be up over plus 3, plus 4, 500. I like those numbers. You like them big, huh? Juicy. You like 10 bucks turns to 50 bucks real quick, don't you? Thick. Yep.

You like 1,000 turns. What's that, pal? What did Ty say? Juicy. Juicy. Oh, okay. Yeah. Wide.

Thick. Wide. Big. Wide. I like it. Wide. Thick. Wide. Big. Wide. Bovaces. Wide. Succulent. You like those big ones.

Supple. Plus 500. Us too. I loved it. I needed it, to be honest. I lost every other fucking bet. Oh, yeah. AJ, I'm in a bad spot right now deciding what's going to happen in a game that I haven't seen yet.

Bad. We're talking about bad spot. I'm thinking things are going to happen. For instance, the Jacksonville Jaguars, they're going to put an X on Travis Kelsey, aren't they? They're going to trip a team. What's that mean? Juju Smith-Schuster, how you doing? Keep moving. Love is the big moment. He is certainly

going to have a big-time game. Let's go and do that. Well, Travis Kelsey has 14 receptions actually. Biggest game in the history of tight end. Does his thing. You think they wanted to take him out of the game or they just can't? What happened there you think, AJ? I'm sure they wanted to at some point, but it's kind of true though they wanted to take him out of the game, or they just can't? What happened there, you think, AJ? I'm sure they wanted to at some point, but it's kind of true, though. Okay, take Kelsey out.

They have so many other options, so many other plays, and guys that can beat you down the field and beat you deep as well. So, you can try, but, yes, it's tough. Kelsey's so good at just watching. He's so good at finding the tiny little windows, wherever that may be, has such good feel, and Mahomes always seems to find them when he needs it. He just gave a lot of credit to Andy Reid for drawing up plays.

But, okay, so that would indicate that my theory is completely wrong. I just think him and Patrick Mahomes are playing a different play every play. Like, I feel it's like, what are they in? What are we in? We're doing our thing. And I assume that's been, like, curated and created in the nest of, like, hey, this is what we're doing. But it's unstoppable. Reps.

Yeah. Travis said reps. It's a we're doing. But it's unstoppable. He said reps. Yeah. Travis said reps. It's a lot of reps, and it's true. It feels like Mahomes and Kelsey are sharing the same brain when it comes to what he does. Yes. It's cool to see. Yeah, it is.

He had a couple. He had like three mock block catches, like kind of leak out the backside almost. This was for a touchdown. He had a couple for first downs. It felt like it's seemingly unstoppable when they're on the same page and that's another reason why Patrick Mahomes's health coming up is going to be a big deal because that is weapon number one in the NFL right now also how many guys it seems like he has carte blanche to just kind of do whatever he wants out there like run whatever route you want whenever you want doesn't matter

the situation and again like to you guys's point about like him and mahomes always being on the same page like they're they're never you know like mahomes isn't ever throwing it behind him because he thinks he's running something else like how many guys in the league actually can go out there and just kind of run whatever route they want on every single play aj you tell me that was kind of what the Patriots were for a long time, right, with Tom? It was like option routes? I think a lot of times receivers have less freedom than we think. I know Gabe Davis comes on and talks about how they have so many option routes, and we see Kelsey.

I'm sure he has lots and lots of freedom, but there's definitely plenty of times when I think they have locked routes where you can't really mess with it because it messes up all the distribution and everything. So us calling them option routes when they're not would be saying that the players are making better plays than the coaches the play that's being drawn up or whatever so i can't understand how that is maybe a slight towards some people if we talk about things being option routes but i thought that's why like julian edelman yeah like tom and julian and that's like working off the leverage you work

off whatever the defender's leverage yeah like options like hey this this Like, hey, this route could be this, could be this, depending upon what this is. That was like Peyton's offense. Yes. A lot of Peyton Manning's offense, which I got to see. It's like, hey, in this situation, we're running this. But if they show this, everybody has to be on the same page without us all yelling to each other, okay?

We can't all yell to each other what we're doing here, and everything operates different. They all have to see it the exact same way. And if they don't, turnover. Boom, turnover. That's going to happen. Seems like Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey, whenever they need it, it's always going to happen.

It's always going to be those two, and they never are off script together. There's always some play that's made that doesn't make any sense. And Travis is at the top of every single stat sheet right now for the tight end position, and he's nowhere near stopping. Nowhere near stopping. It's unbelievable. Yeah, the chemistry they have, it feels like almost like Aaron and Devontae last year and in previous years. Like they just kind of are always on the same page.

And for the Jags, is it almost that their D coordinator, or I forget what his name was. Caldwell. Caldwell, yeah. Does he have too much faith in his guys in a situation like that where it's like, okay, we don't have to do anything too special with Travis Kelsey because we have, you know,

is that a thing AJ? That's possible. Yeah. It's definitely a thing where a coach can come to a couple of guys that may be matched up on them. The majority of the game. Okay. Dots on you today, man. Like this it's on you. We need you to step up on them the majority of the game. Like, hey, Dott's on you today, man. It's on you. We need you to step up. We need you to make plays.

And they've probably felt really good about the play and going up all through the week in practice and how they're going to play everything. And then you get in the game and it's like this right here. If you go from the beginning there, well, that's a D end on them. So, you know, when you're blitzing, you're on a fire zone, usually the weak side D end will drop. Travis put like seven moves on the dude in a one-yard span.

And then threw him off as well. See you later. That's like the kiddo play. He had number 96 covering him down the middle of the field, 20 yards down. It's like some of these schemes are able to be a matchup nightmare. They have coverage beaters, and it seems like these great play callers and play designers have the capability to put their best players into position to beat all these guys.

It's awesome to watch. Carl Aftis. How about the touchdown? Carl Aftis was on the back out of the backfield this week too. Yeah, Kirk lined up in the backfield. Yeah, they had a wide out line up in the backfield. That's how you're scheming them up. You know, okay, hopefully we get this look.

It was like a peel, it's called, where like a DN has to peel. If the back takes off and runs like a little bubble or a flare, you've got to come out of your rush and take them. They gambled on, hey, we hope we get this look. We got this look. We have our D-end on our receiver that we paid a bunch of money to in the offseason. That's tough. And Carl Loftus had good coverage, though.

He had, honestly, pretty good coverage, but they just threw a great ball. Yeah, but how good does that feel as a play caller and as a quarterback whenever you see that situation happen? It's like Joey Burrow. It feels like every coverage he sees, he likes. It's unbelievable. He's like, oh, I got to extend the play a little bit here, and then I'll make it. You like the Bengals this weekend or what, Paul?

You've been riding with the Bengals heavy. I mean, I'm not going to make any official picks. No, no, no. No need. Well, yeah, of course, it's hard to not like what the Bengals are doing right now. I feel like you like their defense a lot. I love their defense. Love their defense.

I think they fly under the radar. So I think when we see them, like, I just love how they tackle, man. I don't remember many missed tackles from that game at all. I remember DBs, nickelbacks, backers, corners, everybody coming up and making big physical tackles and big-time moments in the open field. And they were all coming from the right leverage. It felt like everybody was in the right spots. Very disciplined.

Yes. Just so dialed in almost. That's not easy to do, especially in those conditions. Yeah. Lou Anarumo, I assume he's up for a lot of head coaches as his coaching position. Is he interviewing? We haven't heard about him interviewing for jobs. Come on. I don't think so. Come on.'t heard about him interviewing for jobs. Come on.

I don't think so. Come on, let's get this guy a job. Come on. Cincinnati wants nobody to know that he exists. Cincinnati's like, no, no, no, Lou's getting a lot of love, isn't he? He's doing too much love almost everywhere he's going. Lou Ann Arumo, every time he comes on here, he crushes. Is he getting interviewed for Indianapolis?

I know D'Amico Ryan's canceled his Indianianapolis interview in houston interview oh that makes sense though no he he did too he played for houston yeah he did he said he wants to do him a later time he said listen i'd like to use it a later time because we i said this and i think we all did we all kind of we were rallying this kind of wagon last week pretty heavily. When they announced – and I forgot who it was. Maybe it was Glazer. Maybe it was Rapport. Maybe it was Schefter.

I apologize to whoever announced it. That D'Amico had four head coaching interviews scheduled back-to-back-to-back-to-back one day. And each one goes two to three hours. Yeah. And this dude's going to have to prepare for a fucking game against the Cowboys in the biggest game that he's coached. And these moments are the reason why he's even getting one of the head coaching jobs. We said we should save this guy the trouble, and there should be a calendar, part of the calendar year,

where interviews are done so at least the coaches can say, no, I'd rather focus on my job right now than the biggest interview of my life that would change the trajectory of everything, my coaching career. There's only 32 jobs. I think I'd be a great head coach. When I become a head coach, I'm probably going to have success. I'm going to be the next guy, and I've got to prepare for these interviews as if they matter because you only get a certain amount of them.

And also, we only have six days to prepare for our next opponent. It doesn't make any sense. He canceled the last two. The news was broken, and it made sense that he did. But the coach just so happened to be, what, number three or number four? Didn't even get to talk to him. Yeah. Didn't even get to talk to him.

I thought Glazer also threw in there he didn't want to interview with places that he knew he would never go because most of the places that have had coaching jobs, a la Houston and Indianapolis, are 5, 10, 15 years out from being there. Whoa! And he wants to go to a team that will have a chance. The Colts 15 years. The coaching search is seemingly heating up.

I mean, Sean Payton is the bell of the ball. He's going to be able to do whatever he wants to do. Allegedly, he's going to Denver. Right? And then what everybody is kind of pinning him on Denver. He's going to be the Broncos head coach. And wait until you see what he does with Russell Wilson. Wow! Sean Payton is going to have his J's on. He's going to be the Broncos head coach. And wait until you see what he does with Russell Wilson. Sean Payton's going to

have his J's on. He's going, let's ride here. Let's ride right into this film room here. Let's go ahead and learn this offense like Drew Brees had. And let's start picking people apart. We got the richest owner in sports. Everybody assumes that's why Sean's going there. That's a good hire, I think, right? Sean Payton will love his life up there, mile high.

How could you not? Especially with the defense he has as well. Do you think he wants to take Russ through a workout before he accepts the job? Let me just make sure this dude still has it. If they're paying him $25 million. Yeah, probably not. We'll figure it out after. He said the relationship with the owner is more important than anything.

And Lambeau's come out and said, this owner, best he's ever heard. Best introductory press conference. Unbelievable. Let's talk about Shannon Sharp getting into a fight with the Memphis Grizzlies on Friday night in Los Angeles at the Lakers game. While dressed incredibly. A lot of people obviously going to get mad about this type of thing.

Me personally. The fact that he didn't get booted. And the fact that everybody in the arena was pretty much like, yeah, Shannon. Yeah. Get him. beat that ass. Shannon was going to fight the entire Memphis Grizzlies team, including some parents, most specifically John Morant's dad, who was there looking so cool.

And I assume he's at every single game looking like that. What a moment here. Obviously, Shannon apologized for all of this, talking about he needs to be the one that lowers the temperature in the stadium as opposed to raising the temperature dramatically in a stadium and everything like that. Shannon Sharp's one of the only humans on earth that can get away with this. Let's not make this a habit, I think, is what we're all thinking.

Here, AJ. Yeah, and I mean, I wouldn't be taking Shannon Sharp on. I mean, look at the dude. I love when he was doing that with his handstand. He was trying to, you come right here, like when he was pointing. That was my favorite part. I'm not allowed on the field mean, look at the dude. I love when he was doing that with his hand saying, you come right here, like when he was pointing. That was my favorite part. I'm not allowed on the field, or not allowed on the court. You know I'm not allowed on the court. You come

right here. And what did he say? I bet you won't. I bet you won't, yeah. It's fantastic. Yeah, unbelievable. Then the quotes he gave to the ESPN reporter Dave. I don't know who Dave is yet. They don't know who Dave is yet. They didn't want to smoke, Dave.

They do all that talking and jockeying, and I ain't about that jockeying. It started with Dylan Brooks. I say he was too small to guard LeBron. He said, fuck me. I said, fuck you back. He started to come at me, and I say, you don't want these problems. And then Jock came out of nowhere talking. He definitely didn't want these problems.

Then Dad came, and he obviously didn't want no problems, but I want anything they had. Don't let these fools fool you now. He's given that interview to, I wonder if he doesn't even know he's in an interview. Dave's got something. And then he's like transcribing it. He's like, I thought that's what he said.

All right. This is what Shannon Sharp said. As soon as I read that official quote from actual ESPN reporter from Shannon Sharp, like how has Shannon Sharp chosen to address this situation? These dudes don't want any of these problems. Don't let these fools fool you now. I laughed so hard. I laughed so hard. Shannon, we appreciate you, buddy.

Can't make this a habit, obviously. Lakers came back and won, too, in the last second. And LeBron said said 365 i rocked with that guy 366 on the leap it's almost like shannon is their mascot now yeah yes he has to go to every home game he i think he does yeah i'm pretty sure he does and he's there and then obviously skip bayless oh he's not happy man he was upset well he threw his dress when she knocked on the door or knocked on the thing to let him know it's time to start the video. Bingo.

Thank you for noticing that. I appreciate that so much. Yep, well done. You can see him in the doorway. Well done. What are we talking about? My God. What are you talking about?

There's two seconds, and then you hear, and then you hear, and then he starts walking. Yeah, that's the artist. Ernestine gave the signal. That's him kicking the door. Yeah, that's not real. He so genuinely threw that jersey away, too. She had been filming him for 20 minutes. He was sulking in the hallway.

Yeah, she knew that something was on the line because he had been crying, I'm throwing this away. And she just started rolling. And then he turns the corner, dripped out, shoes impeccable. Absolutely unbelievable. Shoes in the house. Shoes in the house, that's then he... Shoes in the house. That's how clean his shoes are in the house.

Skip's living real nice. He took that thing though. I thought he was going to knock the plant off the wall. He fucking was not happy. This Ford jersey ain't for me anymore. I thought he was lighting it on fire. Looked at both sides of it too. Well, Ernestine stopped it because he stomped out. And she was like, come on, Skip.

You're an adult. You know? That's what she said. She turned the camera off. And then he came back and said, get off me, Ernestine. And he grabbed a lighter fluid. And he fucking took a match. And he threw it so hard, the fire went out.

So he had to fucking light another one. And then same situation. Ernestine said, you got to be nicer with the match, Skip. He said, shut up. And then he put it down and it blew up. And then that was Dak firing back. Skip Bayless lost his face afterwards. And that's why we didn't see the whole video.

But that show was awesome. Those two, Skip and Shannon, we're talking about characters in a movie, bro. Just living. Unreal. Shannon is 50 and just strapped. Repping 450. Somebody took a picture of him from one of the workout videos he had posted and said, Shannon's not lying. I do not think any of those guys wanted any problems.

No, Steven Adams was the only one that could have potentially put up a fight. Yeah, they were out of high, I think. Shannon would have got it right to the ground, though. He would have tackled him. Single leg. put up a fight. Yeah, they were out of high, I think. Shannon would have got it right to the ground, though. He'd tackle him. Single leg. Big tree fall hard. Yeah. Dylan Brooks said, in a sweet black tank top.

Yes. I don't know if you saw the internet. There was a lot of people making fun of him, saying, why is this guy dressed like Dean Ambrose after the game? Oh, I thought it was the GTA starter outfit. I didn't know if it was. I didn't hear the Mox compliments. Oh, I thought it was the GTA starter. I didn't know if it was. I didn't hear the Mox compliments. Oh, yeah.

Very funny. But I did see the GTA ones. He just called a regular pedestrian or something like that, Shannon Sharp, which I guess he did have a ticket. He was in the stands. Yeah. And we need to know that not everybody can do that. No. That's the issue, right?

I think that's what everybody gets scared of. You see Shannon do something like that. Sure. other people who have money think that all of a sudden they're a part of it and it's like let's remember shane sharp shane sharp okay you're not let's remember that especially none of us none of us nobody none of us are shannon sharp yes gronk but there's a lot of people out in L.A. to Ty's point. Yeah. Drunk asshole who's sitting courtside, who's a little sawed-off prick who thinks since he's down there, you know. Actually, you know what?

I'll go say fuck. I'll go say fuck this guy right through his face. I don't care. That'd be funny if both the Lakers and the other team beat the shit out of somebody. That'd be sweet. That would be. This guy's not with us. Shannon, though, everybody was like, whoa, whoa, hold on now. How about the security? Shannon had his arm around him. Any moment, Shannon could have just flipped that guy. Yeah. Oh guy's not with us. Shannon, though, everybody was like, whoa, whoa, hold on now. How about the security?

Shannon had his arm around him. Any moment, Shannon could have just flipped that guy. Yeah. Oh, yeah. All right. See you, pal. It happens in Indy all the time. I mean, LeBron's gotten someone kicked out here.

There's a lot of escorted out. A lot of them. Then Nurkic, there is one of the centers for the Portland Trailblazers, like spiked this dude's phone. Oh, yeah, that was awesome. Was it you or Bruce? Bruce. Bruce was trying to get kicked out.

Him and TJ McConnell have a true rivalry. He got a yellow card, pretty much. NBA arenas have yellow cards, I guess. Bruce got it that said, one more time, you're fucking out of here. You're heckling way too much. Heckling, I think, right? Yeah, I was talking shit to TJ

and it was on an inbounds play and I knew I got him with whatever I said, and he just turned and looked at me and just started going back and forth to me for probably three possessions, and then he told the ref, and then the ref told security, and then they gave me the little warning card, and we all went on our merry way. So Shannon probably got a little bit of the warning card. Yeah, sure. Bruce and Shannon both got yellow cards.

Some people thought what Bruce did, red card offense. Some people thought what Shannon Sharp did, red card offense. Officials deemed it otherwise. And Shannon Sharp dapped up T. Moran afterwards. Bruce made the mistake of going after a Pittsburgh guy who went to Duquesne University, which is always a problem. Go Dukes!

How about Bruce, though, knowing that you were going to say that, because you also went to Duquesne and Pittsburgh guy, and Bruce said, I knew that I got him with what I said. He already laid the – What would you say to get him, Bruce? Yeah, they're boys now. They DM all the time.

Well, Bruce was really proud. I think I was saying that he couldn't guard whoever he was guarding. Oh, man, that really got to you. Hey, Reggie, he can't guard you. There's somebody at the gate right now. Has been for 10 minutes. We have not let him in. Let's get to a break. There's a future Hall of Famer that is not happy. That'll be joining us

on the other side. Jeez Louise. I'm surprised he didn't just leave. I think that's kind of what he was indicating. Or just fucking ripped the gate open. He called me four times. I do apologize. That's on me. That's on me.

That's on us. We need a surveillance of some sort. We do, but it's in weird spots. Over there. Doesn't make sense. Over there. We need a guard shack. It's in Mitt's corner.

Yes. Get a guard shack. That would be sweet. We have Mitt out there with an AK-47. Yes. Good idea. Like a plastic one. I don't know if we need AK-47s.

I will fucking light you up, dude. Hey. That made me think of something because Mitt would have been great in this movie. What's Aaron got against Hacksaw Ridge? Yeah. Oh, yeah. What does he have against it?

I thought that was a pretty good program. It was a good program. It was a good program. I have not seen it. Only movie he said he would ever in his life walk out of. Yeah, crazy. Irrational hate for that movie. For sure.

I was flustered. I was so... Did he save like a thousand people's lives? Medal of Honor. Didn't use a gun. Such bad acting, he said. He nominated for six Oscars. Eric couldn't take it. Eric couldn't take it.

Eric couldn't take it while he was watching it. This is not believable. I love it. I respect it. I believe. Is he on show? I think he's on show tomorrow. I think so.

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Thank you, thank you. All-time leading scorer in NFL history, too. That needs to be talked about. Now, I would say all-time leading scorer forever in the 16-game era, because there's a chance with an extra game somebody catches you at some point, don't you think? No, I agree 100%.

That extra game over the course of your career is an extra season or two less of playing. So I think ultimately somebody will probably get it. I never thought I'd get Morton's record, to be honest with you. But stack up a bunch of years consecutively and try to stay healthy and get on the field a bunch and play for a team that scores a lot of points. You're on the Patriots, obviously, for 10 years, and then you're on the Colts for 11?

14. Jesus. What? Yeah. That's 24 years. That's a long time. Fucking insane. Let's go, dude.

So, I mean, you're going to have to play for a long time to catch them, no matter how many games you're in a season. They don't count playoff points, though. That's ridiculous. Which is when you were at your absolute finest. We're in the middle of playoffs right now. What are your early thoughts on how it's gone? And we've got four teams left.

It feels like they're the right four teams, Vinny. It does, yeah. Obviously, the four teams that are still in it are great teams. They kind of at the beginning of the season was what everybody expected, you know, the teams to be in it. You know, there's a couple outliers that got to the playoff, you know, looking at the Giants, how they made a great run. Unfortunately, they didn't

play very good this last week, but I was kind of cheering for the underdog. I love seeing that stuff. The four teams that are still left are great teams. It's going to be an amazing championship weekend and then Super Bowl weekend a couple weeks after that. You always seemingly showed up in the

big moment. It was cool to watch you kind of operate behind the scenes and on the field. You're a special individual, okay? Very special individual. You're one of the most competitive humans I've ever encountered and also one of the most detail-oriented humans I've ever encountered, and that's why you're first ballot Hall of Famer and the greatest of all time. With that being said, what do you need to do in the playoffs to not fuck it up you think like a lot of teams probably gonna lose this thing mike mccarthy last night with that last play now obviously that has like a one percent chance

of hitting a home run anyways and then dac throwing two picks defense is incredible for the niners nobody's talking about that it feels like the right people show up in these big moments joe burrow being one of them what is it Because you're obviously a guy that has it. Well, you know, like you said, you know, people overthink stuff and then they do stuff wrong. I think let's go back a little bit earlier. And as a San Francisco guy breaks a first down, don't go out of bounds and you don't have to do it. So it's just the little things that you have to pay attention to.

And I think the good coaches prepare their teams for certain situations. It's situational football. Every game is about that, right? So I guess for me, the coaches that make sure that every team and every guy, you know, going all the way back to the 2001 season, you know, the Patriots won five games in last-minute field, five game winners. So we were never blowing teams out. Hell, yeah.

But we were just – What year was that for you? Six, I believe. Five game winners, a lot of game winners. So we were never blowing teams out. Hell yeah. But we were just – What year was that for you? Six, I believe. Five game winners is a lot of game winners. A lot. So point being is we didn't win a lot of games by huge margins. We just could stay in the game, not make the mistake. And then if you're in it at the end of the game,

it's the team that can just literally be the most confident, most cool and collected. And a lot of times in the playoffs, I feel like teams lose those. They don't win those. You know, if you just play a clean game, you don't turn the ball over, you don't have a ton of penalties, you know, there's one or two plays in the outcome of that game that's going to make the difference. And we don't know when they're going to be.

You just have to make the play when it comes up. And then I think at that point, you know, it's all about, you know, the superstars shine and let them go out there and do their thing jelly bar seemingly that aj your question for vinnie adam during your time with the patriots what is it what does belichick do there to separate himself from other coaches when you talk about like in-game like game situations how does he do that to go above and beyond well i'm gonna even take it a step earlier than that and go to what bill parcells did in my rookie year. Big tuna.

The big tuna. He's on the 33rd team. That's right. That's right. He was my – my rookie year we made it to the Super Bowl, lost to your team, obviously, when Brett Favre was there leading the pack. But he always said, listen, I know it's the Super Bowl, but you're just trying to beat the team on the other side of the field. If you start thinking about Super Bowls and what it means, then it

gets really big and gets kind of overwhelming. If you're just really concentrating and saying, I'm not trying to win the Super Bowl. I'm just trying to beat whomever, right? The team that we're playing this week, this game, and then you prepare that way, I think it keeps it all in perspective a little bit. Obviously, the hoopla and the fireworks and all the crazy stuff that goes into it adds excitement. But, you know, AJ, you probably know better than anybody. You get out there the first series, you make a couple tackles, the pads start popping. After that excitement goes away, then it's just a game, right? It's just a normal game.

And if you can really, you know, keep your mind calm so you're making all the you know making the right judgments and doing the right things I think it makes it a lot easier and I think that's what Belichick did from from day one he always said listen I'm going to give you guys a game plan if you execute you got a really good chance to win the game so you know that's what we did we all kind of drank the kool-aid we all believed in in what he was preaching and if you executed that and guys did their stuff, a lot of times they ended up winning the game, obviously. Yeah, execution's so easy.

Oh, yeah. Simple. Execution's so easy. Just like this right here. Obviously, this is a conversation starter for everybody when they're talking about the dynasty, and there's still Raiders fans that are pissed off about this. But, yeah, just do your job.

Hey, fucking just execute, bro. Simple. Here's the game plan. Go out there in the middle of a snowstorm and make a kick that you're not supposed to make at all from 45 yards. Can you walk us through this? And when you watch this, do you remember this moment right here in your head? Like, were you scared to death?

Were you fucking pumped? Were you trying not to think? Were you like, holy shit, how am I here? What were you going through the entire thing? I would say I was probably more scared to death as I'm watching the Tuck rule review and realizing, holy shit, we just, you know, we get the ball back. Oh, yeah, by the way, it's coming all down to you, man. You know, this is what it's going to be. So at that point, you know, once I got out on the field, you know,

I really had three thoughts. First and foremost, try to attack the ball, but stay light on your feet. Just like anybody, you're running on ice. If your cleats don't stick, you're falling on the ground, and then the ball's going to end up hitting your center right in the back of the head. Don't need that. Don't need that. Hold on, though.

Let's talk about this at the bottom because it's very prevalent to what was going on with Marr. Missed four of the last five field goal attempts. I never heard that before. Is that real? I don't know. Evidently it is. I didn't realize that at that point. We don't know what the bottom of that graphic says, though. We have no idea. That might be like in a blizzard.

Yeah, we have no idea what that is. I think it was... I think the announcer said something about that being at that distance and something, something, something. So maybe it was 45, and I'm not exactly sure what it was. But I'll tell you one thing. I wasn't thinking about missing four of the last five if that's truly what was going on.

For me, it was all about, hey, you know, these guys aren't going to be able to get a good rush, get it straight and get it above the line of scrimmage. And thank goodness as it left and I saw that they didn't block it, then it was all about, I don't know if it's going to have enough distance in the snow, you know, let's hope for the best. And I really didn't know until the referees at the back of the end zone raised their hands. I couldn't really see it.

I couldn't tell if it was good or not. Hell yeah, because it's a snow globe. What a kick. What a moment. Obviously, that would go on to launch a dynasty that the NFL will never see again or before. What a kick. What a moment. And, you know, we're talking about here's an overtime.

You've got to make another one. Substantially easier kick. Not just because of the distance, but, you know, we called a timeout. We cleaned a bunch of ground. i know you know about that you've been out there with me before uh cleaning off ground and stuff like that but you know and then and then gruden tried to this the one time that a coach actually icing me probably benefited us right because it gave gave my my offensive lineman with the big size 16 cleats to get out there and move a little bit more ground. And, you know, not to say a game winner is ever easy, but this one compared to the one, you know, a quarter before that was substantially different.

So you're coming out here sighing a little bit of relief. Oh, thank God. I could see the ground. I'm not going to fall. We've already done this. This is no problem. And then you murder that ball dead center. And then obviously in the Super Bowl, you have like a 49-yarder that you hit at the top of the upright. Couldn't have been a better ball, I don't think. You hit a cleaner. You have something inside of you, okay, that not a lot of people have. And Joe Burrow seemingly is a guy that has it.

What is that? You know, I would love to tell you that I was born with or I developed the ability to, you ability to be a clutch under pressure. I don't know. I do think that there are certain people that are born with the want or the ability to say, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Mariano Rivera. These guys are like, yeah, these guys and ladies are the type of people that go, I want the game coming down to me.

I want to be the reason, LeBron, I want to be the reason why we win or lose. And I think I was kind of that same person playing soccer at center midfield. And in baseball, I either wanted a pitch or catch. Leave it there. I know what you're thinking. Knock it off. I know you. Anyway, but I always wanted to, you know, be in

the middle of the game and be the reason why. So once I get to football, obviously 59 minutes of the game, I'm standing on the sideline, but I guess this is the one opportunity that I can put exclamation on the game or the icing on the cake or whatever you want to do. And kind of own it. Own it. Yeah. Yeah. And I tell you what, because some people are scared to death for that. Oh yeah. Obviously. For sure. For sure. Because some people are scared to death for that moment, obviously. For sure, for sure. I remember Jeff Saturday, first year in Indy. We're on the sidelines during training camp. Back then we were doing some two-a-days and stuff like that.

And he looked at me, and he didn't swear, but he just looked at me like, man, I want to be you every single day except for Sunday. Yeah, exactly. He said, he goes, that's too much pressure for me. I don't want to be a part of that. He said, I'll take my 60 plays, and if I do really well on 55 of them, somebody's not even going to notice those other couple plays where I may have got beat or something happened or whatever.

You're on an island when you're punting and kicking and doing that kind of stuff. Corner, quarterback. This is just like golfers, baseball player, pitchers, like all those things that it's like we know if you fuck up or not like the whole world knows if what you did was good or not and you're the greatest of all time at it i i honestly believe it and it happens in conversation that you're like considered the most clutch one of the most clutch humans of all time yeah it's a

cool thing to be known as you need to know that but your ass wanted to be what a brain surgeon or something well i i did i did my my uh ass wanted to be what? A brain surgeon or something? You wanted to be a fucking brain? Isn't that what it was? Cardiothoracic. Oh, heart. Sorry. Heart surgeon. You wanted to be a fucking heart surgeon, AJ. Let me be the guy that goes in there and puts hearts together.

A little bit of pressure involved with that job. I'd say. Connor has a question for you, Vinny. Vinny, obviously not telling you to pick a side here. I want you to. But obviously the debate a lot when it comes to New England is the whole Brady-Belichick shit. And you got to play with Peyton with the Colts

and then Luck for a little bit. Why do you think that can only happen in the Patriots dynasty when you have two guys at the most important positions, one with head coach, one with Tom Brady? And do you think that we'll ever see that again with, you know, maybe a Mahomes and Andy Reid or even like a Burrow and Taylor? So I think the really cool situation in New England was, is that everybody knows Tom was a six-round draft choice.

You know, he didn't get his opportunity until Bloodso got hurt and then they kind of put him into the situation, right? Almost died. Exactly. So for me, I look at it this way, like, and everybody wants to say, what's the reason? Is it this guy or this guy? And I honestly think it's both guys,

because Belichick can coach a lot of great quarterbacks. Will they turn into Tom? Probably not. Tom's a diamond. You know, he was a diamond in the rough and he developed into who he was now would Tom have been as good as he is now without Belichick's tutelage and teachings and and helping the team and developing him that way I think they both deserve a decent amount of credit and everybody wants to go yeah but who which which one's more

important yeah yeah listen you know I I know Belichick when he was in Cleveland. He wasn't as successful yet, but I also think that coaches, head coaches in particular, it takes some growing pains to figure it out. Like very few head coaches that first get there, man, they take off and everything's great. And I think at that point, you know, you just kind of get to the point like, you know, Belichick and his staff were really good at putting the puzzles together, the right guys onto the team that they could trust, believe in.

So then when Bill said, this is our game plan, and I want you guys to execute that, and that's the cool thing about that team. And when I was there in particular, it was like it wasn't any one guy and it wasn't like hey if this guy goes down our next guy up is is really ready to go knowledgeable and he's a good player as well some teams go hey I want the best player at this position and the number two guy is a significant downfall New England was never that way all the guys were solid solid b plus-plus or A-type of guys. Yeah, and then also, what was like the, because to your point right there,

when they paid Bledsoe $100 million, and then right before the Super Bowl, there's the decision like, okay, do we go with Tom Brady, who isn't the $100 million man? Like for you in the locker room, is there any sort of like looking to the guys to your left and right like, holy shit, we're not going with Bledsoe? A lot of us didn't know this was, I don't think I remember this being the case. No, tell men in the arena. Tell men in the arena that right before the Super Bowl, there's an actual decision being made.

The $100 million quarterback, which is a massive contract back in the day, Drew Bledsoe, or the young guy that's going, that was a real thing. I didn't remember that. And that's because Tom got injured in the AFC Championship game against Pittsburgh. Bledsoe comes in, marks down the field, throws a strike in the back of the end zone to seal the game, whatever. Then people are like, holy shit, what are we going to do? Is it this guy or this guy?

Well, it's beautiful when you have two choices, but I'm so glad that that was way above my pay scale because I don't know what I would have done either. Because, you know, obviously Bledsoe was the face of the team. He was the franchise player, but that changed right then. You know what I mean? It really did. Once Tom won that, I remember Bledsoe and Tom,

and Bledsoe said to him during the Super Bowl, or at the end of the Super Bowl, he goes, he grabbed him, and he said, this is your team now. And it was. I mean, after that point on, it never, it was just the way it was. AJ, what do you got for Vinny, pal? I'm sure he's been asked many times, what do you think of the whole Brett Maher situation,

Maher, however you say his last name, in Dallas? And have you ever seen anybody go through something like that? Public. Any kicker that's kicked has gone through a time where you're just sitting there going, I know what to do, but I don't know why the hell the ball's not going where it's supposed to do. You know what I mean? Now, have I seen a guy that, that has missed five consecutive extra

points from the game before and then four more in a game? No, that's a, that's a tough thing. Honestly, you know, at some point for me, I miss a kick and I go, man, I want to get out there and like get that monkey off my back right away and, and just, you know, just put it behind me and just keep moving forward. But I've never got to a point where it got so far gone. I could almost guarantee the third one that he missed in that game was going to be missed left because he pushes two right and he goes, hell or high water, I'm not missing this sucker right. And sure enough, he pulls it left.

And it was just one of those things that I was asked a lot of times this last week, would you replace him? And I go, listen, I'm not in the locker room. I'm not around. I don't know what his confidence level is. I'm not there. But if you start bringing in guys to work out, that's going to destroy him. So if you're going to bring in guys, you better replace him.

And if the guy's on the street right now, he's probably not as good as Brett anyway. You know what I mean? So it was a tough situation for him for sure. Yeah. We all have times where, I mean, I watch you on your show banging three pointers all the time, but there's a, well, and then there's gotta be a time where just miss four straight. It's crazy. But, but the great thing about it is competitors like yourself and like myself and like him, you just keep going out there and doing it. I mean, you're going to have a day where it's not great, but it doesn't mean you stop shooting or kicking.

That's for sure. I try to tell the young guys all the time, and I'm happy you're saying this because you're the GOAT, but I try to tell young kickers when I run into them, like, hey, you're going to have days where you are terrible. And this is going to happen for the rest of your life. There's going to be days where you are kicking a ball and you're like, wow, I am the worst person on earth. Just know that we all have them.

Just know that all of us have them, whether it's a punter or a kicker. And I think that's a big deal. I think when I was in high school or when I was in college, I just assumed that these NFL guys never have a bad day, never have a bad day. And it's like, there's some days in practice where you fucking,

the ball is just for one reason or another not going anywhere you need it. And I thought there was a chance that he either gets through it or he's going to have to completely reconstruct everything, which some golfers have had to happen, some kickers have had to happen. You never really had that. You were awesome. I had some times where obviously that I missed some kicks and your confidence is shicking a little bit maybe at that point. You're trying to think about it.

The crappy thing is when you miss one at the end of the season and then you have to sit on that one for a long time. You know, that's the worst situation. But for me, like when you're saying, you know, you're going to have a bad day or this or that, the key to it is, and I tell young kickers all the time or my son or whoever, I sit there and I go, here's the thing. What you consider your bad day, I said, as you develop and you get better and better that when your bad day is still a pretty damn good day, that's when you know you've made it to the next level. And I know in practice, you might punt one ball that you're not happy with or i might miss one kick and i'm pissed because i'm like it's supposed to be perfect every single time and i think that's what separates

good from great or great from whatever because when you get to the point where the 99 out of 100 isn't good enough then then that's that's the level that you have to have to try to get to an elite level i I think. You're awesome. He missed one kick. It was fucking, we're going to the other field. Let's get 10 more. All right, here we go.

I've seen you do that too, buddy. I've seen you do that too. We're talking about you here, pal. You're the guest. Tone has a question for you, Vinny. We just pushing weights or is it diet too? What the fuck's going on? Yeah, bro, you look fucking ridiculous.

That video you put on the internet of you and AJ getting after it? Hell yeah. You are so fucking jocked, dude. Look at you, bro. Look at your kid. You guys are jocked to some Italian stallions moving weight over there. You look good, brother. You look great.

Well, you know, here's the thing. After COVID, we all sat around, and I ate and drank a little bit too much. And then at one point, I got out of the shower and looked in the mirror and I go, Oh, look at the tries, dude. I said, this is BS. I got to get back in shape. So, you know, the beautiful thing about being retired is I've got a lot of time to do that kind of stuff. I got zero excuses not to get into the gym.

So to answer your question, lifting a lot, working out, doing some cardio, trying to eat healthier. I kind of bulked the last two months of Thanksgiving and Christmas because like the whole world did, you know what I mean? Like a mass bulking, if you will. But give me a couple months and I'll be back down. I'll be a little more shredded. Oh, so you're going into a shred right now. Well, I'm going to try that. Enter a competition.

Get into a bodybuilding competition. Oh, shit. What are you doing? Do they have a plus 50 Get into a bodybuilding competition. Oh, shit. What are you doing? Do they have a plus 50 old guy? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. What are you trying to do? Is it for looks or are you trying to just move weight?

It's never been about how strong can I get. I just want to look good. I want to look better naked than I do with my clothes on, if that makes sense. There you go. All right, Vinny. Newt is calling. Hey, seems like he's working out. I don't know if we'll ever share a shower again, but I'll give you a little judge.

How about, there's a lot of things going on right now. You talked about Jeff Saturday there a little bit ago. He comes in as the head coach of this Colts team. Obviously, they beat the shit out of the Raiders. Hell yeah. And he had tweeted weeks before that, this Raiders team is not good at football. So he knew that he was going to beat them or whatever. Then, obviously, what happens happens against the Cowboys.

33-zip in the fourth quarter, end up losing. Then the Vikings game, biggest comeback in the history of football or whatever, 33-0. At halftime, they go down. What's wrong with the Colts? And do you think Jeff Sardy still wants to be a head coach? And would you pick him to be your head coach? Lots of questions there.

Does he still want to? I believe he still does. I think he would like to have an opportunity where he's got a multi-year commitment and he can actually make some changes. You come in as an interim coach, even if you see things that are broken, I'm not sure how much leash you have to actually do what you need to do. Hey, this guy needs to get cut or we need to do this or that. I don't know if you even have the ability to do that.

So at that point, you know, and I hate to say this and people will kill me, but I don't know. People will kill you for it. Well, right. But I don't know how much of a difference he could have made. You know, could they have won a few more games? Sure. I think the Colts have solid players good good good athletes

good roster seemingly good i just think that the leadership part may be suffering just a little bit and and i've always been around teams that had and it sounds dumb because the national football league is all about alpha males 100 but i had the alphas of the alphas leading teams that i was on right i remember the the willie mcginnis of the patriots way back in the day he would get he would give the old hey fellas we're lifting at 6 a.m but we don't have to that that's when we're doing it right and and his group of guys would be there and and if everybody's there on time, the last guy there, even though he got there at 5.52, he's getting dogs late because he's late. Right. So that's just a different type of mentality that puts to the next, you know, Dungy was a, was a great coach, but he was, he was, he wasn't, he wasn't the dictator, right? He was a, he was a dad. He was a brother, right?

Peyton was the guy that was like, listen, you're going to do this or you're going to be gone, right? And I just don't know if they have enough of- Are there any of those people left? I think Joe Burrow is. I think Joe Burrow is one of those guys. Correct. I think there's a lot of accountability coming directly from Joe Burrow. Now, he might go about it a different way than other people do, but I feel like he's a guy. It does seem like we don't have that guy. What's that all about? We just need more leadership, I think. And that's me.

And it sounds easy. You know, I'll just find some guys that got good leadership. You can find guys with talent all the time. That's what the draft is for. That's what, you know, combine to see who's got talent. Talent, I'm not saying is easy, but there's lots of guys with talent. Leadership is a whole different thing. And I think the teams, the Ray Lewis's of the world, you know, these kind of guys.

And I'm not talking rah-rah. It doesn't have to be rah-rah. Those are the worst, actually. But you have to sit there and watch this guy and go, holy shit. Reggie Wayne, when he was on our team, he was a great leader. You know, he sat there and not only made himself the best as he could, but he tried to drag all the other receivers up with him. T.Y. will give like a direct quote about Reggie making him so much better.

That's what I'm saying. And I don't want the guys there that are there saying, well, piss off, Vinny. I know, I'm scared to say that every time I know a microphone, but it's like, yo, you gave up 33-0. You lose 33-0 in the fourth quarter. You've gotten a coach fired numerous quarterbacks now that might be an issue too no stability it's quarterback position for sure which is the most important position so they might get sick of it but it's seemingly they have a locker

room issue almost no doubt and you're absolutely right i always sat there and i remember at one point sitting there going man are these quarterbacks really worth that kind of money and then i saw when peyton was with us he went out and we missed him the half a year and that was the suck for luck year right that we didn't win a lot of games and then i went oh yeah yeah that guy is absolutely worth 50 million dollars or whatever the amount of money that it is turns out he um he'd go on to have great success at denver as well set records yeah yeah matt ryan said said he was okay being the jerk. Do you remember that?

Yeah, being a leader, telling him what to do. Being that type of person. He was a Navy SEAL. Yeah. And here's the thing. It's awesome, but now he's got to have about four generals around him that helps put that home. Yeah.

Like any coach, if Belichick didn't have the guys believing and drinking the Kool-Aid, I keep saying that, but if they didn't have the guys believing and drinking the Kool-Aid, I keep saying that, but if they didn't have the guys that would enforce what he wanted, then there's a mutiny, and guess what? You're 2-15, and you're out the next door. You know what I mean? The way I look at it is

you can be that, but you also have to have guys around you that are going to help enforce that. It's hard to build a team. It certainly is hard to build a team. It certainly is hard to build a team. Every team is trying to do it. There's only four left in the NFL right now. Vying for a Super Bowl, which this man has four of them. Kool-Aid, did you ever watch that doc on Jonestown?

I did. I did. It was wild down there. Crazy. It was. It was wild. It was very wild down there. Yeah.

They did drink it, too. Oh, yeah. Well, some of them were forced to, but yeah. They all drank it. Yeah, it did seem like there wasn't a lot of other options out there. Well, yeah. Well, some of them were forced to, but yeah, they all drank it. Yeah, it did seem like there wasn't a lot of other options out there. Yeah. What have you been up to? You watch movies?

Just work out all day? A little bit of everything. I'm enjoying it. Hey, listen. Do you kick balls anymore? I was helping Gronk kick a couple balls. Yes. He did kick a few balls during that time.

Okay, let's dive into the kick of destiny here. Kick of destiny happening live during the Super Bowl. Adam Vinicius, third quarter? I believe that's correct. Okay, here we go. I don't know if I should have said that. Maybe I'm not supposed to say that. It's good.

Now we know. Now we know. Third quarter, kick of destiny commercial for FanDuel. Live, Gronk has to kick a, do we know the distance? I believe it's somewhere around like 25 to 30 yard type of thing. Okay. So I know initially when we were doing the commercials and stuff, he said, hey, man, I kicked a 33-yarder in high school,

so that's kind of where we started. And, I mean, I love Gronk. He's a rock star. What's going on here? Well, stop it. He's a rock star. He's a fun dude. He's hilarious.

What's going on here? What's up? I don't know. I'm excited. There's a rock star. He's a fun dude. He's hilarious. What's going on here? What's up? I don't know. I'm excited. There's a but. Yeah. No, no, no, no. I said, but he, I mean, with all of, he's got a million Super Bowl moments, but he's never kicked, you know, during a ball during the Super Bowl. So this, the but comes, he's an exceptionally good athlete, but he's not a kicker. And if anything from two-week shows, that kicking in high-pressure situations is not as easy as we all think. So do I think he can do it? I watched a bunch of kicks, and he got better over time. Does he need to continue to work?

Absolutely. Are you really coaching him? Are you sending him videos? Let's go. We've talked a few times since the stuff, and, yeah, you know, I'm going to be out there standing right next to him. So, hopefully, come on, man. Who's holding for him?

Are you holding? Are you holding full operation? It's just on like a tee. You know, it's just being held. No, it's no snap, hole kick. No, that's a whole other situation. So, no, it's just off the ground, let's go. But it'll be exciting.

All right, here we go. Come on, Johnny. I didn't know that you were taking this as like a coaching gig. But, hey, man, have you ever known me not to try to succeed and try to help us win? That's right. Let's go. And great acting in that commercial. Oh, yeah.

I thought you guys actually crushed it. Yeah, that was pretty good. Good commercial. He's a fun dude. Half the time, I didn't know if he's joking around or being serious. He's a hell of a good actor because I'm like, I mean, I'm cracking up half the time trying to like stay serious and do that stuff. But it was a lot of fun. FanDuel, obviously you guys know, they're an awesome company.

They did, I mean, it was just, it was such a fun experience being out there and being part of it. Hell yeah, we're happy you're a part of the FanDuel. Yeah. He retired for a lucrative acting career, so he better be good. That did, that was a thought a couple years back. He returned and played football again. You think he's going to play football again? I don't think so, to be honest with you.

I think he is really enjoying life. Same kind of thing like what Manning did. Once he left football, he got involved in so many different fun activities. I think Gronk's doing the same thing. I just talked to him. I'm like, hey, what's your week? Well, I'm doing this, and then I'm doing this, and he's all over the place. So I think he's enjoying having a little less football stress and less stress and pain on your body

and enjoying kind of the good life a little bit. $10 million in free bets if Rob Gronkowski can bang home a 20- to 25-30-yard field goal in the third quarter of the Super Bowl live with Adam Vinatieri next to him. We assume he's Rob Gronkowski. That's right. You have to assume. Where's it at? Is it at high school? Where's it taking place at?

It's going to be at a college field, live satellite. I'm not giving up too much information because we don't need a bunch of crazy fans. You just put two and two together. If you know Gronk, you know where it is. For sure. He did give a shout sure. Woody High.

He did give a shout-out to Woody High the other day while he was on NFL on Fox pregame. He went to school at Arizona. Bingo. Yeah, former Patriots coach, also the head coach at Arizona now as well. Who's that? Jedfish. Jedfish, yeah. All right, they've got a squad out there.

I'm excited to see him. He's going to knock it home. He needs to aim right, though, don't you think? All those big guys who try to do soccer style always pull it left. It's hilarious. His size, freaking 21 shoe or whatever. I'm like, okay, we're just swinging a boat through there trying to hit a ball. It's hilarious.

But, you know, he made a couple of them. Like, there was a couple times I'm like, damn, that looked really good. And there was a couple times I was like, ooh. So, I don't know where we're going, but it's going to be awesome. I'm definitely, hey, that looked really good. And there was a couple times I was like, ooh. So I don't know where we're going, but it's going to be awesome. I'm definitely I'm his coach. I'm his biggest fan. Third quarter, kick of destiny. There you go, bro. 10 mil.

That's been overreaction Monday. Vinny, we did a giveaway already with Bruce. I got to make a shot. Now, here we go. Pointing the hole here. He's making it guarantee it

this one's for you Vinny no shit that one wasn't for you Vinny look good I was joking this one's for Vinny Terry BAM

NO DAMN IT brand new shoes can't get them scuffed alright we'll hit something tomorrow Aaron Rodgers Tuesday tomorrow No! Damn it! Brand new shoes. Can't get them scuffed. All right, we'll hit something tomorrow. Aaron Rodgers Tuesday tomorrow. Here we go.

I think we got some other guests as well. Not Harrison Shore. Nice. Got a big week coming up, man. Championship weekend's coming up, AJ. Let's go, dude. The NFL is in its biggest moments right now. Everything that happens this point forward will be remembered forever.

Like this man, AJ Hawk. And like you, AJ Hawk, from the Super Bowl forever. Like this man, A.J. Hawk. And like you, A.J. Hawk, from the Super Bowl, your rookie year. Hell yeah, A.J. Not my rookie year. Well, no, not my rookie year. Vinny's rookie year. And your rookie year. You guys both played in the Super Bowl, huh?

Yeah, yeah. Look at you. Vinny, how do you feel about that one, going in your rookie year to the Super Bowl? How'd that feel? Are you talking to me? Yeah. That was that one, going in your rookie year to the Super Bowl? How'd that feel? Are you talking to me? Yeah. That was unfortunately, oh, my rookie year. Well, the most hilarious thing about it is everybody wanted to talk about,

hey, what do you think of Scott Norwood? What do you think of Scott Norwood? What if it comes down to a kick at the end of the game? What are you thinking about that? And I'm like, really wasn't thinking about it until you assholes started talking about it. So, yeah, so they had me paranoid as hell. But, you know, the thing about it is is like it was i didn't even get a fugal attempt i think they ended up beating us two touchdowns and it was just a bunch of touchdowns and extra points it was you know i had a couple two or three extra points but they after uh after who was it uh reggie white came through and tossed max lane and stripped the ball out that was kind

of the beginning of the end for us. But we gave her hell. We just didn't have enough to get them. But it was exciting, and I was thinking, man, you know, rookie year, this is easy. We'll be back again next year. It took six years to get back. So the second time, I definitely soaked it in and enjoyed it and kind of, like, thought about it a lot more than I did in my rookie year, for sure.

Yeah, I just assumed we're going back every year. A couple years later, we're almost completely defeated. Yeah. Remember that? Life came at us quick. Life came at us real quick over there. Shit changes quick. Real quick.

I did not appreciate the moment enough, but I enjoyed the hell out of it. Yeah. And a lot of people get blamed for us losing that game. I'm not one of them. There you go. Boom. We just continue to keep it moving. I'm going to blame myself because I wasn't on the field because I was injured that game. I'm not one of them. There you go. Boom. We just continue to keep it moving. I'm going to blame myself because I wasn't on the field

because I was injured that year and I was – That was one of the greatest stories of all time. I held the biggest kicking challenge in the history of football. Who won it? What's your problem? What's your problem? I'm just kidding. You did.

You did, though. You did win. That was a big moment. Were you just in so much pain? Is that why you didn't kick? What happened? You had your hip surgery. Then something happened.

And then I had three surgeries that year. Hip surgery and then rehabbing. I tore my meniscus. Had that fixed and then re-tore. And then I had another surgery during our bye week. And I just couldn't get back at it. So soft. Come on.

Pansy. Yeah, so soft, bro. Unbelievable. He was trying to kick his fucking leg just holding off. Jesus. Bill Pulling's like, there's no way you should be kicking right now. Wish you were, though. Matt Stover, good guy.

Learned a lot from him. You know what he brought into the world, and now that we have you here, we should definitely talk about this because this has been a conversation the last couple weeks. People bringing stuff on the field to mark the spot this become a conversation piece so just like kickers getting mulligan attempts for game winners or at the end of half whenever coaches call timeout to try to ice we used to try to steal a kick so you can get like a quick feel for the wind a ball the kick whatever it was then so many special teams coordinators bitched about it the refs started

changing the rules now you see refs run in and like bat the ball, try to block the kick, like no, no practice shots, no practice shots. They got a timeout. It was ridiculous that that has happened, but it has happened over the years. Another thing that has been spotted by I assume other special teams coordinators, and they're not happy about it, is guys bringing things out to mark a spot on the ground. Makes life a lot easier for the holder, makes it a lot easier for the kicker and now it's it's being banned and spotlighted we never did anything like that ever uh but normally people that do it i don't think it's that big of a deal do you think it's that big of a deal i don't i don't really i don't unless it's giving an extra you know obviously if there's something that gives

it elevation for people that don't know they're They're bringing like a piece of tape out that will stick out in the grass, and it's like, hey, that's the spot. So the kicker can just mark off its steps from the spot. The holder doesn't have to have their hand down, doesn't have to do anything. And then whenever you catch the ball, a lot easier to find that spot because there's obviously a target there that you're putting the ball down on. They're cracking down on that now. I actually watched a ref at a Colts game walk up and grab a piece from,

I forget who was doing it. Was it the Eagles? I don't know who it was. Eagles, Chiefs, Chiefs is what I was thinking. Chiefs or Eagles, somebody. Ref actually walked up before the ball was kicked. They almost got to delay the game because he grabbed the piece. It was like a piece of turf that was put down there, grabbed it out of the way,

kicker had to retake the steps. And I was watching. I'm like, holy shit, there's something happening right here. I don't know how many people do it. It's an interesting thing that's taking place. If you play on a grass field, as you're going off,

take a pinch of the white paint or whatever, and then you can just set it down and mark it that way too. Like, I understand that you shouldn't necessarily bring a foreign object out there to give, you know, hey, put it on this penny or something so you got a visual but i also think like come on man you didn't like really a piece of grass yeah i mean it's just getting a i know what stover used to put a little piece of tape right is that what it was you always had like

little pieces on your sock it was unbelievable it was my first year holding i'd never done it before and now i got like these little square pieces of tape that I've got to put out there and put down. And now it's like immediate judgment on the hold. Like, where were you? I got pretty good. I mean, I was a pretty good holder. But I could see how you'd want that as a something. No, actually, I don't.

Because if you miss a spot, I don't want to sit there and go, God damn it, Pat, you missed it by an inch. No. Just put it down, and I'll bang it through. Yeah, you were a lot different than Silver. You two approached the game vastly differently. Both had a lot of success, and both were very nice to me, which I appreciate. Like in the middle of your approach as a kicker, if you see him miss the spot by just by that much,

that, in my head, would fuck me up. Yeah, I wouldn't want it either. Yeah, let's just make sure that thing's standing up and down here a little bit with a good lean. Give me a good lean, and we'll make the rest. We'll figure it out from there. Nobody talks about the perfect season we almost had. How old were you? You were fucking old when that happened, too, when it came to kickers.

Yeah, no, I was, I mean, yeah, it was, I guess I was probably about 10 years with the Colts. So 18, 19, 20 years, something like that in the league. Miss one, Tennessee Titans, never forget it. Come on. I know. Last game of the year. There's a storm happening. East Coast. What happened? What was that?

Was it a hurricane? Yeah, it was fucking windy. Nashville gets windy. It might have been sandy if it was 10 years into Colts. I'm not sure. It was a windy day, but Tennessee gets windy. It is a windy stadium, and it doesn't really get talked about much.

And it can be a little chilly down there too. Right into – I mean, we were going right into the wind. It was like a 40 – ah, that was a fucking bummer. Missed one all year. The hell of a year. Yeah. Oh, here, made all pro. Provo made all pro.

Hey, I tell you what. I was not going to lie. I thought the Vegas kicker was going for the 40-something in a row. I was watching tentatively on that. Oh, yeah? Yeah, he got real close. He was only a couple kicks off. Is that how many we had?

We had four. What is the? I don't know. I'm sorry for not knowing right now. I should know. This is your? Yeah, 40. God dang it.

How many we hit straight? 40-something? Is that real? Somebody said, where's the football? Is that real? It's on that football. Oh, yeah. that should be here. That's in the office somewhere.

44 in a row. So it was Colts at Titans, and the date of that game was October 28, 2012. Sandy was from October 22 to November 2, 2012, so it could have been her game. Sandy game. So there it was. Yeah, because I remember being like, fuck, it is very, we were very,

I mean, we were in the middle of. Long line here. We had already broken a record for most in a row, and it was going to be perfect season. And then as we're trotting on the field, it's like, worst case scenario. Oh, fuck. Left hash, I do recall. Left hash into the, from the Colts left to right, right side.

Right, correct. The open side, yep. So do you watch that stuff then? Like when McPherson last year in the playoffs was going for it, he actually said to Pat on the show he was going for your record. Do you kind of follow that a little? Well, yeah. Well, yes and no.

I'm not so conceited that I need to keep my records and this and that. But he had a really, really nice postseason last year and had a lot of attempts. And, yeah, I mean, he ended up tying. I think we had the same amount of field goals in a postseason together. So, yeah, I literally was watching the Super Bowl and going, man, if this guy has one more. I'm going to be forgotten forever. It's kind of nice being on the top of the board.

I'm not going to lie. I mean, I would say anybody that says that they don't think about that is a liar. Because, I mean, for sure. Especially if you're up there. Yeah. Especially if you're at the very top. A shot to Overton, too, by the way. Snap for the Cowboys.

He's part of that. 44 straight. I didn't know we did that. Damn. Pretty fucking good operation, AJ. Pretty good operation. A lot of good holds in that. 44 straight? I didn't know we did that. Damn. Pretty fucking good operation, AJ. Pretty good operation. A lot of good holds in that. Also had a 35 straight.

Vanderjack was second, I saw on there. Vanderjack's a name I haven't heard in a while. Yep, yep. He was second. And then I think Gary Anderson was third. But now I think, what's his name from? Peyton's greatest clip. Yeah.

Peyton's greatest clip from the Pro Bowl. Our idiot kicker got liquored up and ran his mind. I was the kicker at the Pro Bowl at the time, and every one of those guys are looking at me like, dude. I didn't say it. Shit, that's not me. I know better than that. I'm not doing that.

But they were all looking at me like, really? And I'm like, hey, man. Hey, you're representing all kickers. I guess. You see what it's like for me. Anytime somebody kicks one not great in any division of football, I will get a mention. I'm like, I feel terrible for that person.

It's going to happen, though. Keep swinging. That's the game. Triple Sticks was calling for you to kick the Cowboys yesterday. Did you hear that? That was fucking wild. I said, I don't think. I'm enjoying watching these games at home.

You think I want to go through what Maher's going through? No way. I think it would be fun to go back and play a couple of games. I just don't know. Like, I'm not sure. I think my knee would blow up if I tried a whole season. You know what I mean? Like, I think I can make the first three or four weeks and be okay.

But by the middle of that season, I'm like, how many games have we got left? Oh, Jesus. You know, so, you know, do TY. Jump in two weeks left and then ride this, you know, the postseason out. That's a good thing. So, I'm 35 do TY. Jump in two weeks left and then ride the postseason out. That's a good thing. So I'm 35 right now. Okay? I'm 35.

I'm 50. We got this. Happy birthday. It's not my birthday. Go ahead. Keep going. No, but you had one. Basically, yeah.

We missed it, I assume. I assume we were. Hey! Boom. Here it is. On October 28, 2018, against the Oakland Raiders, Adam Duteri broke the NFL record for most points scored in NFL career with a 25-yard field goal. This is it right here, buddy.

Look at all your fucking records, bro. NFL record holder for most career points. Does that matter? I don't know. Four-time Super Bowl champion. Is that good? I don't know. Three-time pro bowler. Should have been more. Three-time first-team all-pro. Should have been more yeah three time first team all pro should have been more yeah

nfl record 44 straight field goals made there we are boom bam most seasons with 100 points unbelievable most postseason field goals in a career most points in a postseason career most field goals in a single postseason 14 which is tied by money mac last year gotta be most game winning super bowl kicks oh yeah yeah i think you're the only right well yeah you're pretty which is tied by Money Mac last year. Got to be most game-winning Super Bowl kicks as well. Yeah, I think it's only, right? Yeah. You're pretty good, dude. Damn.

Look at this. Six foot tall, 212 pounds. South Dakota State, fuck, it says. Yeah, right there. Pretty good. It should say that. Pretty good. Good looking 212.

Hey, great look. Yeah. Where are you at right now? You're 240 right now. 235. 232. Are you on a scale every day? Not every day, but I'm in it right now.

Here we go. AJ, he's in it right now, dude. Just trying to look like you, man. Just trying to look like you. Look at this dude's traps. Look at your shoulders. What are you doing for shoulders, man? You look good.

Yeah, we're doing a lot of this stuff right here. Everything. A little bit of everything. Yeah. A little bit of everything. Yeah, because the hoodie goes straight. It's shoulders to head. So the hoodie sits on there.

So whenever you just look at him from here up, it's like, look at the fucking just block of meat this guy has. Yeah. But then you zoom out. You are okay now, dude. You look unbelievable. You need to start just wearing this every day. Yeah. Right.

Yeah, I'll invest in a couple of tank tops. I'll buy them for you. You look better than I do in them. No, no, no. That's literally all I wear. We appreciate you so much. Good luck on the kick of destiny. Thank you.

Third quarter Super Bowl. Cannot wait to see how that pans out. Is that a military good coach or not? We shall see. We'll find out. Who knows? Great kicker. Big thanks to Travis Kelsey for stopping by,

Ian Rappaport for all the boys, and for Bruce for getting the Giants back in the Super Bowl conversation. We'll see you tomorrow with Aaron Rodgers Tuesday. You're all the best. AJ, great work today, Paul. Hey, thanks. You too. Thanks, Benny.

Looking great, Benny. Can't wait to watch him. Benny's going to probably pack on 20 or 30 more pounds of muscle. I'm looking forward to watching his progress. No, he's in shred season right now. Yeah, that's right. Oh, yeah, yeah. He's going the other way.

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