The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 839 - Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, In The Trenches With AQ Shipley LIVE From The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: January 24, 2023

On today’s show, Pat, AQ Shipley, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about Tom Brady’s comments to Jim Gray on the Let’s Go! Podcast about his future, the news that is being reported that Aaron Rodgers will be traded from the Green Bay Packers to someone in the AFC willing to give up 2 first round picks, and they start to dive in to the AFC and NFC Championship game matchups. Joining the progrum to chat about his future, whether there is any validity to these reports that he’s being traded, where he’s at in his process, what it will look like if he comes back next more and much more is the 4x MVP, Super Bowl Champion/MVP, Quarterback of the Green Bay Packers, Aaron Rodgers (1:53:55-2:47:26). Later, 12 year veteran on the offensive line, AQ Shipley breaks down the best o-line plays of the from the Divisional Round of the playoffs as we go In the Trenches (2:47:28-3:06:49). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people. Welcome to our humble abode. Da-dum. On this Air Rodgers Tuesday, January 24th, 2023, this show starts now. Football! Has its final four. And we have a change in a line taking place in the AFC Championship. As of yesterday, Chiefs favorite. Now, Bengals favorite on the road in Kansas City. What do they know?

What are we going to find out? So much to chat about over the next three and a half hours or so. The Bengals are now one and a half point favorites on the road against the Kansas City Chiefs. What does that mean about Patrick Mahomes' ankle? What does that mean about what the Chiefs are thinking? Or is this just the books taking another look at what the Bengals did to the Bills this past weekend and saying, you know what? This team is pretty fucking legit. We'll talk about it all day. We can't

thank you enough for joining us. We also have a massive announcement. The massive announcement isn't the fact that the toxic tables here looking incredible at Boston Connor, at Ty Schmidt. How you guys doing? You guys got a uniform on. I didn't plan it, but you know, I mean, we do have a uniform on. You guys are on the same page. You look great over there. Yeah, Spider-Man you get. That is not the breaking news. No. Tone Diggs won half of the hammer.

Don Cowboys is here. He looks fantastic. That is not breaking news. What's going on, Tone? I mean, I wasn't told. Neither was I. Neither was the man who's sitting right to my right here, Tone? I mean, I wasn't told. Neither was I. Neither was the man who's sitting right to my right here, 12-year NFL vet, a man who won a Super Bowl. He's a coach and a center and a guard and a fullback

and a tight end at times and a wedge on special teams' kickoff returns in the NFL. Ladies and gentlemen, Super Bowl champion A.Q. Shipley. A.Q. That is not the breaking news. No. Right? No. Although it is good news that you're here. Thank you. All season's been great. Thank you so much for joining

us all year, traveling from the desert all the way to Indianapolis to make the show a little bit smarter, a little bit better, and a little bit more jolly whenever you stop by. Best day of the week. Appreciate y'all having me. Shouldn't have said that. Your week? Who's week?

Just best day of the week. Best day of the week. Best day of the week. I have some big news. For those that have maybe been fans of the program for longer than just this season, you have realized that one part of our show has been missing. Why has that part of the show been missing? Is it because we've wanted it not to be here?

No, no, no. Strictly because the technology that was put into this multi-million dollar studio was not capable of having this one particular part of the program that was a backbone of the program. And here we are on this January 24th, 2023, week 21 of the NFL season. Week 21 in this dome. The 5-Hour Energy phone lines are back, baby. Wow!

We are back, able to take calls. Obviously, everybody can remember Owen, the 8-year-old, dunking on Connor, calling him to fuck off pretty much. We all can remember Gumpy, way back in the day, calling into the program, being such an electric factory on the phone lines that we brought him in. He actually works for us full-time. Now, he has since been deported. That's right.

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We had to do 50 different numbers while we were trying to figure out. A couple other choices before DA-DOME. Yeah, DA-DOME is not the first round draft pick of anybody. But a lot of numbers have been taken. We were surprised that this one wasn't taken by any suck sites. Yeah, no kidding. With that being said, 1-833-4-DA-DOOM! On the 5-Hour Energy phone lines being back, we're very pumped and thankful

and appreciate 5-Hour Energy's patience. You know, because we signed a deal with them to do the 5-Hour Energy phone lines, and then all of a sudden we move into this brand new studio, and we just assumed that we were going to be able to do the phone line things. And then what happens? Boom! Can't handle it. No phones. Can't work. Can't work. Can't do that. Well, we told you we needed that whenever we were designing the studio. We thought

we had the right idea. You didn't. It don't. We got it back. Shout out to fucking Jake, local. Hell yeah. Jake Tech guy. From State Farm. A little bit, no. Not Jake from State Farm. Jake Tech guy. Are we tired of that? What's that? Yeah, it's run its course. Okay.

It will never end, though. From what we've heard about the Yelions, they love that guy. Big time. Yeah, but I was watching it this weekend, and I was like, all right. I feel like State Farm's had a good run. Yeah. I think they might need to just do a little change-up. But we watch every single week.

We see every single thing they do. So we probably get sick of things a little bit more than everybody else like um what's his face from progressive mayhem he he that's a home run every single time that's all an all-timer i don't know how that one i don't know how they top themselves every single time they do also the uh act like your parents one aggressive pretty solid that'll never get old. Pretty solid one for there. Jake from State Farm, I think, is awesome for sure. They're going to have to evolve that, I think, at some point. Yeah, you don't want to fall into the flow from progressive territory

where it's like she's been on there for, what, almost 20 years, and they know everyone's kind of sick of her, but it's like... Get rid of Flo. Let's just keep running her out there and doing the same thing. Flo had a hell of a run. She did. She's still doing it, too. All right, let's move on. Let's start talking about a little football. What's going on? the same thing. Flo had a hell of a run. She did. She did. She's still doing it. Absolutely. All right, let's move on.

Let's start talking about a little football. What's going on? You like Flo. You're a Flo fan. Just, he was aggressive about it. Take her out back. Geez. Wow.

Geez. Don't shoot her in the head. Don't say that. There's no reason for any of this conversation. Flo had a hell of a run. Yeah, still going. I certainly remember which insurance company she works for. Progressive.

And I guess Jake, we also remember he is from State Farm and everything like that. But I think I was watching this week, and maybe they didn't have enough options. Maybe it wasn't enough options and it was running so much. Could have been. Yeah. They have the new Chiefs ones. The Andy Reid one's pretty sweet. I'm going to get to the ball, miss.

I really enjoyed that a lot. Holmes, bath bomb. Andy Reid getting a little more love, I enjoyed too. Travis Kelsey yesterday was fantastic. I can't thank him enough for joining us today. We obviously have Aaron Rodgers Mahomes, Bathcom. Andy Reid getting a little more love, I enjoyed, too. Travis Kelsey yesterday was fantastic. I can't thank him enough for joining us today. We obviously have Aaron Rodgers joining us, I believe. Now, right before we went live, I thought to myself, I should probably send an ask.

Maybe make sure he knows. Yeah, he is. He just got to confirm. Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, an hour and 55 minutes from today. A lot to talk about. Schefter doubled down almost on his report this weekend. That is a real possibility of Aaron Rodgers being traded whenever he was on the NFL's ESPN's kickoff show or whatever. Then we asked Ian Rappaport, and Ian Rappaport says, for the right package, the Green Bay Packers

will trade Aaron Rodgers. I did not know that was the case. I'm intrigued by that being the case, because when Aaron came on here and we said, hey, what are your thoughts going into next year? He said, well, I got to figure out if I want to play football. And if you're going to play football, you want to win. You don't want to be part of a rebuild. So this is a two-way street. I actually started laughing when he gave that answer. I'm like, two-way street, here we go.

This is the same thing for the last three years. And a lot of people started targeting Aaron for this all we're going through is bullshit. Again, obviously they want you. Now it is seeming to come out that when Aaron talked to Gutekunst and the entire thing, there was maybe a discussion that was said, and we'd have to ask Aaron a little bit more, and who knows if he'll tell us any of these details or not, because he's always like, behind closed doors,

we think conversations should be whatever. Even the last couple years, it seemingly was the Packers that were coming out publicly saying stuff, not Aaron. But he got a feeling that the Packers were maybe thinking about moving on from Aaron Rodgers. That's why he said it is a two-way street. If they want to go with Jordan, want to go with the younger players. I think he even said, like, I understand, but that's not what I'm in this for.

I'm in to win the whole thing, which got lost in the narrative of bearing Aaron Rodgers last week. But it was clear that he had heard something in a conversation where he thought maybe he wasn't going to be the quarterback for the Packers. These two, three weeks, however long he's taken to decide if he wants to continue playing, which is a big part of it, does he want to retire or not? And if I knew what I wanted to fucking do,

I would have already fucking done it, Jim. Tom Brady said to Jim Gray, it's a tough decision. Not an easy decision. Both Tom and Aaron have been through this the last couple off seasons. Retiring from a game that you have conquered and a game that has given you so much is not easy, especially when you're up there in the top pantheon of fucking people that have ever played the game.

So Aaron and Tom going through retirement conversations probably with themselves or whatever the future holds. If he decides to come back, the Packers will also tell him that if they want him back or not at the same time, then they'll work a trade. Now it's come out from Schefter that they're reporting that the Packers will not trade him to an NFC team. They will trade him to an AFC team.

It's like, Schefter's got more information. It feels like Schefter's deep with the Green Bay Packers side, and they're like, hey, this is a real possibility of trading him and moving on. Aaron's already alluded to it, maybe having to play somewhere else if he wants to play at all. That's a big decision he'll have to make. AFC's coming to the Colts. Mike Greenberg's on fucking get-up every morning.

Hey, need to hear if he'll come to the Jets. Zach Wilson, we found out yesterday, has good friendship with Aaron Rodgers. Might be the perfect tag team. What are your thoughts on all this, AQ? If you've got a guy, you normally don't move on from him. Tom Brady moves on from the Patriots, wins the Super Bowl. Matthew Stafford moves on from the Lions, wins the Super Bowl. Is this a similar type situation with Aaron Rodgers here?

And where do you think he ends up? It's a great question. I mean, I think the one thing that we've learned in this league is that nobody's untradeable. Nobody's uncuttable. When we saw Peyton Manning get cut, I think that was like... That was a game changer. That was a game changer. What just happened? I was there. Then you see Tom...

Peyton's cut. Cutting Peyton? Peyton runs the team. What do we do? Peyton was the head coach, the general manager in. I mean, fuck, he could have been the trainer. How's this guy getting out of here, right? That's exactly what happened. Then Tom gets his way. He goes out. And then if this happens with Aaron, this is the three best quarterbacks of this

generation if that happens. Wild, wild, wild. I love the fact that they play this game like, oh, we're not going to trade him in the NFC. Okay, so we'll lose to him in the Super Bowl. We're not okay them the NFC. Okay, so we'll lose to them in the Super Bowl. We're not okay losing in the NFC Championship, but we'll lose to them in the Super Bowl. That is always a fascinating thing because I guess you might run into them in a regular season too whenever they rotate the schedule.

You could potentially run into them if you want to do that. You don't want to do that, but you play against some NFC or AFC opponents each year as well. That seems like an old school mindset. As a Packers fan, as somebody that is now, we've had to cover this a couple years back to back to back. This feels like the most, oh, he's getting traded. For sure. That there's ever been in the entire Aaron Rodgers Green Bay Packers saga.

I'm kind of pumped for Aaron. Aaron wanted to be a Packer forever. Aaron, old school as fuck. Never gets talked about because everybody thinks he's all these other things. He still has that goddamn cloth chin strap. He'll play through anything. If 70% of me is available to play, I'm going to play. He's like an old school guy. Wanted to finish with the Packers because he saw what happened before

with the previous quarterback that played there and everything like that. I think he always envisioned it. He's going to get to experience free agency almost here for the first time with recruiting. I know some of the Packers fans are maybe done with Aaron's shit. You're allowed to do whatever you want. You're allowed to think however you want to think. A lot of teams are

going to be lining up to get Aaron Rodgers and pay him. $60 million is being reported. $40 million is being reported. So many mixed numbers being reported on how much money they would pay and what's going to have to be traded. So many teams will go right now to Aaron Rodgers. How does it feel as a Packers fan and also a big-time Aaron Rodgers fan? Yeah, I mean, it does, to your point, it definitely does feel like there's a little bit more to this

than there has been in the last couple years because it's been thrown out there like, oh, yeah, they may trade him, but I think deep down, you know, most Packers fans are like, well, that's not going to happen. If he decides to retire, that'll be one thing, but I don't think they're going to get rid trade him, but I think deep down, you know, most Packers fans are like, well, that's not going to happen. If he decides to retire, that'll be one thing, but I don't think they're going to get rid of him, and then obviously he wins two MVPs in a row. But I don't know. I mean, part of me, too, with the Schefter stuff,

remember he was the one who released the report on draft day a couple years ago, and there were a lot of holes in that. So I don't doubt that Schefter has people that he's talking to and that he's in the know, but I don't see this see this and say like oh man Schefter knows something that everything everybody else doesn't know yeah what was Rappaport like yesterday Rappaport was like he said yeah it's you know it's certainly a possibility but he said you know kind of like I have a tough time they'd have to do a lot and there would have to be a lot in return like in in it'd have to be literally a perfect situation then you look at a couple of the other teams.

We know Aaron pretty well at this point at least on the surface. Who knows what he's thinking behind the scenes. Can you really see him wanting to go to the Jets? I have no thoughts that the Jets wouldn't potentially trade

two first round picks to get him. They got weapons. They got the running They got weapons. They got the running back coming back, too. Yeah, I mean, the other team in the AFC that's looking for a quarterback is where Devontae is. It's hard not to think that the Raiders don't leverage their future on Aaron and say, like, hey, with McDaniels, do we really think that we could make a run at this? And you've talked about it before.

Those Pantheon quarterbacks, they don't care about Mahomes and Herbert and the other teams in the division. Yeah, they're in their division. They're in their division. Yeah, like he goes there, then a lot of that changes for the Raiders. I'm so fascinated by it all because I think Peter King said, well, if Tom doesn't beat Aaron to Vegas, there's a chance he's going there. It's like two number ones is what they're thinking it would take to trade

for Aaron Rodgers? What do you think the sticking point is for these guys? What about the Panthers, dude? Could you imagine the Panthers? Yeah, I wonder how hard the NFC AFC line is. Yeah. Because if a team comes. Tennessee keeps coming up, too.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, because he has raw land there. What is it? Raw land. Is that how, AJ? Yeah, raw land. Well, I mean, yeah, if some people are buying raw land in Nashville, that means they're moving there.

Is that how it was described, right? Yeah, pretty much. Raw land. He does have some raw land there. Assuming his relationship with Vrabel will be a big splash for the new GM as well. Yeah, that's the worst wide receiver room in the league, right? Actually, yeah. That's why the last GM.

I do think the AFC-NFC thing is a real thing, though, because when they got rid of Favre, he went to the Jets, and after the Jets ended up going to Minnesota and beat the Packers twice. So I don't think they want to replay that. Same division is tough. Yeah, exactly. Same division. That was a nightmare for it because at that time, too,

everyone was kind of still sore about Favre leaving, and they didn't know if Rodgers was ready. So I really do think if he were to get traded, I don't think there's any way they'd trade him within the NFC. Let's go to Bobby in Jersey on the 5-Hour Energy 5. What's going on, pal? Great to hear from you again. Hey, boys. How you doing?

Keep it moving. Happy Tuesday. Good start, Bobby. Bobby! This is the 5-Hour Energy line 2.0. Good start, Bobby. Bobby! This is the 5-hour energy line 2.0. Feedback, boys. This is great. Just want to talk about my Jets. They're in a great spot. They're in the rise.

Hit the jackpot in the lottery. We need a quarterback. What should we do? Give up the two first-round picks for good old Aaron Rodgers, or just be like the Browns and just give Lamar a deal that he can't reject. Interesting, Bobby. He's going to be a franchise guy, we all think. A non-exclusive franchise tag would cost two firsts anyways.

So you're going to give up two firsts for Lamar or two firsts allegedly for Aaron Rodgers. Right. That is allegedly how this is. So it's just understood. Do you hear all Bobby's talking? Oh, yeah. It's just understood that Aaron Rodgers is being traded for two first-rounders.

He's worth it, too. We're talking Aaron at 2.05 Eastern Standard Time today. He's been whale-watching, I think. I think he's actually been whale-watching. That's what he's been up to. Yeah. I wonder if he knows that he is currently on the trading block for two first-rounders and how he feels about it.

You were very flustered over here trying to figure out your life. I'm happy to see you're back. It is just understood right now that Aaron Rodgers is. I can't hear a phone line. I was seeing if I could plug in down here. Oh. Sorry, Al. That's the one thing we didn't.

Just to clarify, the two first rounders is coming from Peter King, and it's Peter King's guess that it's going to be two first rounders. And then Ian Rappaport said they're going to have to do something good, write a good package to get them. Yeah, Pete doesn't miss. And then Schefter said, well, it's not going to be in the NFC. It's going to be in the AFC. So now we're just kind of shaping.

Peter King and Schefter have been breaking news for, what, 30, 40 years? Yep, accumulation of information. Yeah, that's what we're doing right now. And it's all like, oh, Aaron's getting traded. Yeah. That's crazy. One week ago, this guy was going to go watch Wales, see if he wants to Evan. Yeah, that's what we're doing right now. And it's all like, oh, Aaron's getting traded. Yeah. That's crazy. One week ago, this guy was going to go watch Wales, see if he wants to play. Yeah. Now he's still in the middle

of that process. You can't hear the callers. Why would that be? We just fixed it. Okay. Oh, okay. We're back. That was a shame. You missed Bob. Bob is a cool guy. What did he say? How you doing, Gabe? I'm assuming, let's see if I can put context clues together. Okay.

Daniel Jones? No. Good run, AQ. Mute the phones for him again. Mark. You know what sucks for the... Lamar. Okay. Or Aaron.

The Jets. Young team. Going to have to trade two firsts. I thought Harbaugh said 250% he stays there. Or 1,000% or something. 200%. But yeah, they're going to have an exclusive franchise. Yeah, maybe exclusive is interesting because if it's an exclusive

franchise tag on Lamar Jackson, it's the average of the top five salaries this year for quarterback. Non-exclusive top five salaries the last five years of the quarterback position. Probably a difference of $10 million to $15 million. Oh, yeah. That's a big number. Yeah, I would assume.

No bonuses involved. And we haven't really talked about Lamar much since the Harbaugh press conference where he said, I love him. 250% chance he's going to be back. Now will they be able to make it take place? Bobby and Jersey still wondering. Aaron being the bell of the ball this offseason, that was something

that I could not have expected. This kind of came out of nowhere. Tom Brady's going to be available. Who would you rather have? Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady? Aaron Rodgers. Exactly. Not even close. No doubt about it, depending on the contract. If Brady takes, what, $20 million?

If Brady does some sort of discount like that where it's $20, $25 million, then you're getting a lot of extra room to play with where maybe a guy who's been bored for the last two years decides he wants to come back and play with his quarterback, Tom Brady. Oh, you're talking about Gronkowski. I'm talking about Rob Gronke. He did say, I'm getting bored, and then the next day he was on that child horse saying he's now on the family. Son of a fan.

He's got a kick at destiny coming up. Third quarter of the Super Bowl, live. Yeah. He's got to make a field goal for $10 million in bets. He's got it. He's going to make it. Yeah. How did Vinatieri describe it?

This guy's got a size 21 foot. It's like a boat coming through. Swinging a boat through. Kick a football. He says, Vinny seemed like there's a chance Gronk's not going to make this kick. Oh, yeah. That's not what Gronk does. No.

Gronk shows up. Yes. Yeah. Gronk's going to make that kick. I hope so. No doubt about it. $10 million in free bets. I thought it was going to be Fugues live. Me too.. Yes. Yeah. Gronk's going to make that kick. I hope so. No doubt about it. $10 million in free bets. I thought it was going to be Fugue's live.

Me too. Me too. Yeah. Pre-recorded. For sure. I thought for sure it was going to be live and they were going to have some asterisk somewhere. Vinatieri's like, no, yeah, from my understanding.

Yeah. Vinatieri's like, from my understanding, live. Live action. Very live. Live action. Third quarter. Yeah. He's kicking.

I'm going to be standing there. I'm like, holy fuck. The amount of tech. Yeah. The amount of tech that, yeah. He's kicking. I'm going to be standing there. I'm like, holy fuck. The amount of tech. Yeah. The amount of tech that could potentially take place. Unbelievable. They're going to have to put together an entire college game day setup for just to have enough tech, internet, support, everything to be live for 140 million people watching at the

same time. That's awesome. You can do thousands and thousands of hours of redundancy tests if something goes wrong. What are you so negative about? I'm not being negative. I'm just saying that we have lived this song and dance many times. With numerous

companies. Yeah, exactly. Numerous companies. Them going live is awesome. I think it's awesome. Yeah. I assume somebody else has done this before. Is this the first live commercial in history? I think this is the first live commercial. Let's go, dude. That might be the future. Last year at the FanDuel party, there was no

mishaps with the internet. I still don't think it's live. I still don't think it's live. See, that's Zito who has been, obviously, in the trenches of all these... I don't want to say remote... Is it live on social? Is that what they're doing no no as a commercial yeah that's impossible benny said it was i don't know how they're gonna

zito and i had this combo last week and literally said it is impossible like even if it was possible sending a live feed to who has a fox this year yeah yes so you'd have to send it set the rtm feed get it ready get it going and then hope So you'd have to set the RTM fee feed, get it ready, get it going, and then hope, like you said, tech-wise goes well. Yeah, their connection. There's so many things that have to happen. And if somebody takes over that stream and does send something else down the stream by mistake.

Which could definitely happen. Like porn? No, not porn, I don't think, but something. I mean, that's easily. The cues could jump on. So it's going to go from camera on field to truck at field. Right. Okay, so that's one leg. Yep.

Then it's got to go from truck to satellite, okay? Satellite to Super Bowl truck. Yeah, truck at the stadium. I know what's going to happen. Then that thing has to get sent to game feed, and then that has to get sent to game feed and then that has to get sent obviously out to 140 there's just so many layers there the only thing i could see them do the asterisk is they film it in the first quarter they have it ready for like a half hour and it runs

third quarter yes i mean which they might as well film it now so snickers will film it yeah snickers So Snickers did one in 2017 that apparently worked. Oh, okay. What did they do? It was Adam Driver, and it was, I don't know, it was a school of thought. Yeah, and he gave a little nod to let you know it was live, saying it was 21-3 Atlanta at the time. He gave the score during the commercial. Where was he at?

He was on a set, like on a soundstage, but I guess the whole premise of the ad was everything can go wrong when it's live so they had a bunch of stuff like messing up around him on purpose okay good i like that good idea snickers i'm excited for hey shout congrats to fando on doing yeah this is an opportunity for our friends above zio just told me basically you know all this stuff's been happening with the ufos stuff like that. They're going to take over the feed.

They're going to broadcast to 140. You think FanDuel is going to have the first alien feed? No, no. That would be massive. That would be big news. Maybe the Grinch commercial. Yeah. They're stealing it to get a message out to 140, 50 million people.

AQ, you know limited about this whole world. How fantastic is it that we're potentially going to have a lot of live commercials going forward at the Super Bowl? I love that. I do too. I love it. I know nothing about this, but I'm pumped for it. Pumped for it.

I don't know how much they are. If we could just do live commercials, we will certainly be purchasing one within the next year. Have to. One million percent. What would you do? I think we're just staring at the camera for 30 seconds. Is it working?

Are we live? Oh, yeah. Throwing a football around, go boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. From Java. I was not asked to help in this particular kick at Destiny. You know, I did see the stat yesterday. Me and Vinny went 44 straight alongside Overton. That's pretty good.

I'm a pretty good caddy for kickers. I'm a pretty good caddie for kickers. I'm a pretty good caddie out there. Gronk, you need any insight, any little head game stuff. Not that Vinny's not the perfect guy, but that is a machine you're talking to. Yeah, one of one. Overton's average has gone down in the last month. Oh! What are you talking about?

What's your problem? That's on my herd, dude. That was extra points, too. That doesn't count towards the field goal. Snaps are all good. I did think about Overton, though, whenever. That was extra points, too. That doesn't count towards the field goal. Snaps are all good. I did think about Overton, though, whenever they were missing, like, two, three straight extra points. Overton's doing a lot of –

I do know that. There's a lot of – is there an anger, Brian Anger, the holder's like, I think everything's – I think everything – I honestly think it's just – It's just this guy. I think it's just – because Overton is a perfectionist, obviously. He's going to – as all long-stampers are because you have to be. So once that guy misses three in a row, I think there's a chance Overton's like – What the fuck am I doing?

What do I need to do? What are we doing here, dude? They had to be so excited when they saw one go through. The relief, not only from Cowboys fans, just that operation there. Because they're there all week with him. Every single rep with him. So every kick he takes last week at practice, everybody's looking at. They're also looking at the op the entire time.

So Overton and Anger, like, hey, when our guy's struggling, we have to be even better. So that even heightens the fucking – the asshole on Overton had to be – Pockered be so tight. This guy can't fucking hit a field goal to begin with. If I accidentally send laces to this guy, it is over. This guy's career is over. I couldn't even.

Shout out to them for getting through that. Hey, was I seeing that right, that first one that got blocked? It was going to be 20 yards to the left. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I put a video out talking about it. and then there was somebody that responded to me okay just as somebody who is the best people yeah you know i'm a pretty good person to talk to whenever it comes to like uh kicking punting kicking off like pretty much all amount of experience pretty much i've done them all pretty good uh field goal kicking was probably my least talented strategy,

but I was with Adam Vinatieri every single day for like eight years during his hottest run. So it's like I'm kind of in there. Some guys say, we don't know if that ball is not coming back in, though, or whatever. It's like, well, I've kicked that ball. That Meyer kicked. That ball is not coming back.

That ball is gone. I mean, that thing is probably his worst ball. I don't love that they do the finger tap as the – yeah, that's not going back. Way left. That ball is gone. I mean, that thing is probably his worst ball. I don't love that they do the finger tap as the, yeah, that's a perfect operation. Yeah, that fucker is gone. Came out sideways. You see that little Cowboys towel down there? That thing's way left of that. I mean, we're missing the net.

That's game ball, K-ball, gone, just like they had happened in the last week where they missed the net, K-ball gone. Yeah, that ball is, that thing's going left. Probably that Cowboys flag. It's hitting that flag. Yeah. That's what I was thinking. Right, the blue one right next to the white flag.

It's actually a shame it got blocked. Snap and hold good? Yeah, looked like good up. He doesn't lean the ball much, but anger might not have leaned because this ball is pretty much straight up and down if you look at it. Pause. Keep going. Lace is perfect.

Keep going. Pause. That ball is pretty straight up and down if you look at it. Pause. Keep going. Lace is perfect. Keep going. Pause. That ball's pretty straight up and down. Vinatieri would want that thing tilted down towards Angers right knee a little bit, but he literally just missed what, three out of five extra points to the right. So the more you lean, the more the ball will go right. So you keep that thing

straight up and down a little bit. He might have been doing some ball fuckery. I'm not 100% sure. Nonetheless, this is just terrible ball contact. That's a bad kick. What's the finger tap you were saying? Yeah, so to snap the ball, they're doing a finger tap right there. Boom. Bang, that's the snap. Boom.

Huh. Yeah, so like a good edge rush, we'll be able to see that. We never did that strictly because, like, I don't want to move the spot on Vinny. So, like, I don't want to see anything moving. As soon as I lift my hand is when Vinny's going. But, yeah, that little finger there is probably their snap thing. Could you have a double tap? Probably, right?

Oh, yeah. They got all that stuff, right? Yeah, same thing. Yeah, that ball's nowhere near the uprights. He's going to have a good offseason, though, I assume. I assume Maher is going to probably work on some stuff. It's really just these last two games. Yeah, I'll be intrigued to see what he does.

He was a great kicker all year. I also enjoy the fact he has that one strap-off, so he seems to be a swagger guy. So hopefully he'll be able to dive back in, but that was a tough watch. I was uncomfortable for him. The first one. That was his worst kick. But then he got two in a row in, right?

Right down. And Jack Collinsworth, whenever I posted, it feels like it's going to be a long night. Jack Collinsworth goes, what would you ask him as a holder? Jack Collinsworth, by the way, takes a lot of heat. He does. Not Jack's fault. No. That Jack has gotten opportunities because he's literally met every single executive at NBC his entire life.

Not Jack's fault. Is Jack the greatest person on television? I don't think so. But will Jack potentially be great? I think so. For sure. potentially be great? I think so. I think Jack has a good aura about him, everything like that. He gets killed because nepotism happens. It's not his fault, though.

We've got to remember that. He put in the comments, what would you say to him? I would literally, I think the right thing to say is like, hey, the worst possible outcome in our profession has already happened. So whatever you're scared of, whatever you're telling yourself, in our profession has already happened. Okay? So whatever you're scared of, whatever you're telling yourself is going to happen, already happened. Let's just kick the fuck out of this one. Like literally let's just kick this thing as hard as we fucking can.

And let's just see what you miss another one. Who cares? You've already missed five. Let's just fucking swing. But those are the types of conversations that are happening between holder and kicker, you know? Like me and Vinny's combos before kicks. Awesome. He talked about a little bit yesterday about how, like, I, it's tough for me to take a lot of things serious.

So it is. But I think we were a good mix because of like how he was like one of the most cerebral, calculated, locked in guys of all time. And then he got me out there. It was just like fucking, hey, what are we doing? Fat guy right there. That's who we're aiming at, right? Not giving up the upright. Yep, boom, all right, old fuck, let's go.

You know, like that old thing, and it's a nice little balance. You're like a caddy for the golfer. I'm happy that Overton Anger and Maher were able to have a couple makes going into the offseason because everybody would be uncomfortable forever. I don't know if he has it fixed. I hope he does. He won't find out until the first game next year. Preseason game even, won't even. because everybody would be uncomfortable forever. I don't know if he has it fixed. I hope he does. He won't find out until the first game next year.

Preseason game even. Won't even. You know? He'll find out where his mentals are as soon as it actually matters again. And at that point, he'll either get through or he'll have to go back to the beginning. We'll pull for him. Let's talk about some big news out of New England. Hell yeah.

Hey, Billy O'Brien, old Billy Teapot, old tea kettle Bill O'Brien from the last dance of Tom Brady. What was it called? The Man in the Arena. Man in the Arena. Allegedly, Tom Brady and Billy O'Brien loved getting after him. Oh, yeah. Tom Brady knew that Bill O'Brien was like a teapot.

He's going to start boiling, and his whole face is going to get very Irish red, and then he was going to get upset, and they were going to yell at each other. That was actually something that took place on a regular basis up there in New England, and they were able to bring out the best in each other. Mac Jones, he left to go to the NFL. Bill O'Brien was brought in to be the offense coordinator at Alabama. Mac Jones stuck around for a couple weeks to teach Bill O'Brien the offense that they just ran so efficiently and so effectively

whenever he was quarterback at Alabama. So although they have not done a season together, they do know each other. And allegedly the respect is high amongst Billy Owen, Mac Jones. You have an offense coordinator now. He's been there. He's had success. He's called plays before.

Boston Connor, you woke up with a big raging wood because of this news. Oh, yeah, absolutely. I think all of New England really did. Any Patriots fan out there that probably made their week, especially after what happened yesterday, you know, you're already having a good week. Boom, you wake up this morning, all of a sudden, Patriots have an offensive coordinator.

It's not an offensive assistant. It's not some. Yeah, it kind of came out of nowhere. There was like rumblings and then bang, he's hired. Yeah, it wasn't a bullshit, you know, like title. This is the OC, and this is the first time since I think 2018 where we'll have a actual oc and an actual dc with gerard mayo draw mail also helped out you know with the hiring process which

is huge but i think the biggest thing and you mentioned it how bill o'brien and brady would kind of yell at each other aside from mac jones's play i think a lot of people had problems with him like the body language of him whining on the sideline, going like this. Oh, fucking do it then, Bill. Yeah. Fuck you, Tom. It's unbelievable. Fuck you.

Hand the ball off, Tom. Why don't you throw the ball somewhere near the fucking wide receiver and we won't have a problem? Great game plan. You can't do shit. Oh, handsome Tom. Bill O'Brien, hold me back. Yeah.

Hold me back. Had this happen in Houston, allegedly on a practice field, and JJ and everybody was like, all right it's time fucking let him go but that is what that's kind of what bill is known for what you need it's what mac jones needs more than anything it feels like for someone to be like hey shut the fuck up the play is fine hit the guy that's open and don't make a terrible decision like that is really all that the patriots fans want out of an oc and out of mac jones really because that was the biggest fans want out of an OC and out of Mac Jones, really, because that was the biggest difference between year one where everyone loved him and year two where he was just trying to do too much.

What's this mean for the wide receiver market, you think, Tone? Fucking, well, we're not good for maybe D-Hop, but... Yeah, Hopkins is not going to... I want to get your opinion. How do you think Billy O walks in the building? I think he goes up to Patricia and Judge and goes, what the fuck were you two doing? Or he goes like, hey, boys, step aside.

I fucking got this, okay? No, I think he walks in there and goes, boys, it was difficult when we weren't here, huh? Uh-huh. Jeez. JJ Watt fought me. Yeah. Matt Patricia's like, my ATV ran out of gas.

Oh, it's more of a like that. And they pushed me off the thing. Yeah. And Joe Judge is like, did you see what the Giants did immediately after I left? I like that. He's diving in mud. Same roster. Went to the playoffs. Boys, is like, did you see what the Giants did immediately after I left? I was diving in mud. Same roster, went to the playoffs.

Boys, thank God we're back, huh? Thank you, Bill. Thank you, Bill. I mean, maybe mocking their offensive scheme, but Billy O knows Matt Patricia as the greatest defense coordinator, and he knows Joe Judge as the greatest special teams coordinator,

and he's like, hey, you guys were being asked to do something you're not supposed to do. Daddy's home. I'll call the plays. Mike, you're a little upset to do something you're not supposed to do. Daddy's home. I'll call the plays. Go back. Mike, you're a little upset. Hey, you go back to the defense side, Joe.

You're going back to special teams. You guys had to do a little dick off here where Bill Belichick was like, I'm still. I'm Bill Belichick. It's kind of what happened last year. Oh, yeah. I'm Bill Belichick. Everybody's telling him he's wrong. Now, fuck you.

I'm not wrong. You're wrong. I'm not wrong. You're wrong. I'm not wrong. You're wrong. I might be wrong. Fuck. Fuck. Matt, what did you want to do for our team?

Defense. Okay. I'll put you back in. Joe, what about you? What do you think you could help our team out? Special teams. Okay. Okay.

Makes sense. All right. That's what we'll do next year. Nobody else was saying that. That's just my idea idea that really is what it was all year right yeah that's what i felt like bill bill belichick staring down everybody saying fuck you i'm smarter than you 100 and that feels like love that he still got that oh yes yeah you know love that he still got it that's what the robert craft you know meeting at the end of the year kind of felt like is him telling bill like hey we're not doing this shit again but the biggest thing is how obvious this decision was.

I feel like from the outside and for Patriots fans, we need to see Bill O'Brien's leaving Bama. He's already been with Belichick. He's going to come back. But they never make the obvious hire. So him actually going and getting Bill O'Brien is awesome. Uh-oh. Oh.

Getting predictable. So now all of a sudden we know exactly what Bill Belichick's going to do? Yep. Sometimes. What's that all about? Predictable isn't the worst thing, especially when it comes to what you just did. Yeah, there's like 25 teams that are predictable. You know what I mean?

He was pretty unpredictable last year, and we went 8-9. So maybe we just go back to what has been working. And also Matt Patricia, allegedly, now that his Lions contract is up and there's a chance he might have to be paid, Matt Patricia might not be in New England this next year. Oh, really? Yeah, those are the rumblings. He's going to go to D.C. somewhere? Yeah, maybe he'll go somewhere else to be at D.C. Maybe he'll go somewhere else.

Like with McDaniels? Sure. Yeah, he was the last person asked before signing Mac Jones, for drafting Mac Jones. Kraft, you like it? Yeah. Bill, I haven't watched film on any of these guys. Kraft says. Then he goes to his kid, Stevie.

Steve's like, yep. Sticking his tongue out. Yep. Then he goes, Matt, Matthew Patricia. How do you feel about it? Yeah. Hammered his chicken fries from BK. Took his Ticonderoga, flipped it.

I like it. Fucking drafted. Grab him. Then we got Mack walking there. I like it. Fucking drafted. Grab him. Then we got Mack walking there, doing the Mack walk. That's what happened. That was a chain of events. Matt Patricia goes from in control of who's getting drafted for the Patriots to now he's going to another team.

Out of town. Jesus Christ. Fall from grace with the Patriots. You guys don't want Matt Patricia around? You guys put him in a terrible spot. I mean, who wants Matt Patricia around? Whoa! What team?

What is your problem? Okay, do the Steelers, do the Packers, do the Colts? Who in here wants Matt Patricia? I would take Matt Patricia. Go ahead. Then go take him. Then why don't you? Grab him.

I'm not in charge. Won a Super Bowl for you. Did he? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if you guys remember who told Malcolm Butler to go in the game, but that was Brian Flores who said, Malcolm, go. That wasn't Matt Patricia.

But go ahead and run with the Patricia storyline. I love this for you guys. When you guys get them, I hope you love them. Let's talk about another New England Patriot that has brought you a happiness, and now that he's no longer there, you don't give a fuck about it because you assholes have no respect for anything. Amen. Tom Brady told Jim Gray,

if I knew what I wanted to fucking do, I would have already done it. Here's from the Let's Go podcast, which has been happening for two years. This is the most notable and recent clip from it. Jim Gray asking the questions. This one was brought to you by... Right after he said it. Geez, Tom, you sound angry. Maybe you want a Morton steak for dinner tomorrow.

Okay, so this question came from Morton Steakhouse, which they have such good beef. Oh, my God. So juicy, tender. Such good beef. Here's from a Let's Go podcast presented by SiriusXM just yesterday. Tom, you're leaving everybody guessing.

You said you'll take your time. Do you have any type of a timetable as to what you might want to do regarding your football career? Jim, if I knew what I was going to f***ing do, I'd have already f***ing done it. I'm taking it a day at a time. Love that. Jim had to ask him.

Jim had to ask the question, and that one particularly because it was brought to you by Morton Steakhouse right but I like the fact that Tom's a little fiery AQ you know Tom a lot better than us his hands have been up under your thing two towels underneath you've played for a team you've watched him you won a Super Bowl there alongside old Tom Brady in Tampa Bay is that what what he's normally like? Because that was awesome. That was a Tom Brady that I would like to listen to every single day. If that was what the Let's Go podcast was,

now I don't like that they bleeped him. Yeah, come on. We're adults. Come on. We're adults. It's Sirius XM. Morton Steakhouse is serving meat to adults. Right. It's not like that whole thing.

So I don't love it that I didn't get to hear him say it. It's almost like they feel like they got to look out for Tom. But Vrabel in the last dance for Tom Brady called the Manly Arena. Vrabel said, your little perfect pretty boy quarterback's not that perfect. He said something along those lines like, what Tom is actually like versus what you all think vastly different is what Vrabel was alluding to. Now we know Vrabel is like top two, not two shit talker

in like the history of anybody he's been around. Is that what Tom's normally like? And what do you think Tom is going through right now, A.K.O.? He's definitely like that. He's very relatable. I mean, in the locker room, he's one of the guys. He's an alien. All of us think he's an alien.

I know, but he's so relatable on the field, off the field, in the locker room. Like he talks shit. He loves to fucking joke around he loves accountability more than anybody in the world so like that's what you see you see the fiery shit whenever everybody fucks up i mean i there was one game where it was on one dipshit forgot the fucking snap count dipshit being me hey q snap the fucking you know i mean like he is fiery like if you're not doing exactly what what you're supposed to do he's on you he's fiery so like he's exactly what you want as a quarterback to allude to what you were saying and this goes back to aaron too what is i guess what's the question like what is the sticking point that says yep that's it what tells me i want to come back i

don't know i think it's like a feel is it a bunch of things is it one thing like four whatever three weeks from now we're going to sit there and be like, yep, I still want to play football. If you want to play football, you want to play football. Some big universe, guys, strictly because I haven't figured out what religion I believe in, and at some point in my life, I will do. So I just say the universe.

Now, when I'm speaking to people of different religion, whenever they're talking about their God, I just enter universe in there. And then at some point, hopefully I'll be able to figure out which one I believe in and everything like that. Because I enjoy learning about religions. I enjoy listening to people and their beliefs.

I find it very fascinating. So I think we make a lot of jokes about religion, but I also think that we probably know more about more religions than most shows strictly because I enjoy learning about it. These things have caused wars. These things have caused people to do things that you would never expect. Like I'm very fascinated by religion. So I always just say like the universe, I think what Tom and Aaron would say is their God, their, what the universe will tell them, right? Like you hear, um, I follow a guy who's become pretty religious.

Oh, who's that? And, uh, whenever he says something, he always says like, God put this on my heart to say, and I'm like, oh, like, I have feelings to say something. Some people view that as, like, God saying that they should say something. I think that is what it is. I honestly believe it's like a, they feel as if whatever is going to show them or make them feel a certain way, and it's going to be like, okay, I'm doing it, because Aaron said it, and I assume tom's the same way if i'm gonna do it what calls what it calls for is a lot so once i get that feeling i kind of have to flip a switch and i'm all the way in or i'm all the way out one of the other so i feel like it's a universe like telling them almost if that makes sense like they get like a

feeling like a vibe almost like oh i'm supposed to be doing this i'm not supposed to be doing this and how does that come? I don't know. Do you whale watch? That's what Aaron's doing. Do you try to go work out and see how the body feels? And that tells you. Do you go hang out with some boys, like teammates, have a couple beers and drinks and share stories?

Like, do you talk to people that are retired? I don't know. I just think they're looking for that type of, like, fucking guidance almost from within their, that's like, yeah, let's keep doing this, if that makes sense. Yeah, I think they i think they're looking i mean in my opinion i think they look for what you put together a venn diagram right you got your pros and your cons right like here here's this what a big venn diagram guy yeah you love this huh i don't know i mean at the end of the day but that's my point is what's the tipping point like you know i just don't want to fucking

lift on mondays anymore in season that That's it. I'm done. You know, that's what I'm saying. Is it something as pretty as that? Yeah. That's what I'm wondering. Like, what's the tipping point? I don't think so. I don't think it's something that small.

No, I, you know what I'm going with. No, no, but that's a real thing though. Like, are they putting that in there? Like my Tuesdays, I could spend doing this instead of doing this. Wednesdays, I could do this instead of doing this. Is it an overall thing or is it just like a gut feeling? You know, that's a – we'll ask Aaron, I guess. I mean, that's a good question.

Why don't you ask? Yeah, AQ, maybe. You could ask this question. Oh, I got a good question for him. What is it? Did you just say it? No, no. That's a good question, though, what you just said.

I'll let you say that one. And I got something – he'll probably get pissed off. Oh, so you got two questions. Wow. You got a question through me. Double and dime. I'm ready. You're afraid? You sound afraid. Yeah, you sound pretty serious. I am ready this week, boys. Do you got two questions wow question through me i'm ready you're afraid you sound afraid yeah you sound pretty i am ready this week boys do you want

to prep your question i can't wait i can't wait to preface it by saying aaron it's so good to talk to you again because you did a couple months ago you know what i'm saying oh yeah you see what i did there yeah you are a hot start do you want to test what you're gonna ask him right now no yes pat you should probably act as Aaron and then maybe see. Thank you. So, I don't think I could. I don't think I could. I haven't read any of these books.

I read all these books. Maybe I could act as him. Dang. Okay. I could be in the same headspace as him. But are you real? Is it a good question, you think? Football related or life related? Football related and life related, I guess. A little bit of both. Oh, football. Football is life, isn't it? Boom and life-related, I guess.

A little bit of both. Football is life, isn't it? Boom. Way to go, AQ. That's a good shirt. Ball is life. Well, and football is life, Ted Lassa. Yeah.

Trademark it, for sure. But I think it's a gut-feeling thing. I don't think it's a full Venn diagram. I don't think so. I think it's just a full-on how's the inside, how's the soul feel. Yeah, and like the stuff AQ was talking about, like do I want to lift on mondays do i want to you know do something else

on tuesdays it feels like both those guys are at the level where if they do go to a different team they can probably say hey on mondays i'm probably just going to be hanging out or on tuesdays you know i need my g day or whatever it's called but also a lot of it has to do with the current team that they're on right like you see tampa making all these changes obviously green bay is kind of figuring out their deal with jordan love maybe aaron doesn't want to start over and if they did the green bay packers decide they want to go jordan love that he just calls it you know like they're that's a very realistic yeah he might just want to retire yeah i think that's a gut i think that's an inside i think that's what that is.

At peace with it. Could you imagine, though, if it is a beautiful mind, and he's got that big glass window over there in Malibu, and he's got all the pros and cons, cons in red, pros in green, and he's just looking at this window of everything. I mean, maybe he is that. And Tom would be, I think Tom would be, he takes notes, right, in every single one. No stone unturned on figuring out the right decision

because it is my life, remember. They could say that. Obviously, they're in a different place than most, right? But I do think most, it's pretty simple. How do you feel about what Tom said to Jim Gray there, though? But that's the question, right? Like, one day it's just going to hit it. Again, I can't even put my mind in that space

because they're in a completely different space than I was as a player and most are as a player. Well, there's another side to that too, right? Because what happened with Tom last offseason where he made the decision too early, allegedly, however that went, but then obviously decided, hey, I don't feel this way anymore. I'm going to come back. And with his relationship with his wife that we have to talk about,

Alex's wife, because he's been made so public. I assume that was kind of a, you know, kind of a... Massive part. Hey, we're probably done, aren't we? We're probably done. And then, you know, other people probably telling him, hey, if you're going to be done, we've got to know now. I feel like now there is at least one proponent out of that situation forcing him into a decision. It's almost like he's like, hey, Jim, what are you, my fucking ex-wife, dude?

Yeah, exactly. I will fucking take my time for the first time in my life. How about that? I just enjoyed hearing Tom be a human there because everybody that's been a teammate of his is like, hey, you would enjoy Tom. You'd enjoy Tom. I'm like, the guy selling that chocolate on social media videos, I don't think

the guy that is just like, they're like, he's going to be a good commentator. This guy knows the game. He's one of the guys. He hangs out. He knows a lot of things. He's going to be a great commentator. I'm like, every time I've heard him talk, it's like robot Tom Brady's talking up there because he's been conditioned, I think, to do that. Don't give anything away. Don't look weak. Don't do anything. Just be professional, be classy, move on. He's been the prototype publicly for a long, long time. Now, granted, there's always the, you know, the ball inflation levels and everything like that that's talked about him. But anytime he's ever done a press conference, anytime he's ever spoke,

it's always been like the most professional fucking human of all time. And then they say behind the scenes, this guy is one of the guys. I'm like, okay. And I think we got a glimpse of it right there. But you saw some moments this year. His press conference is this year. He had some good moments. That was fucking awesome. Yeah, there was that one.

There was another one where somebody asked a question. I think it was that one. What? 40 years old. I'm 45 years old. I'm going through some shit yeah there's that one and then they talked about changing the game plan leading up to the uh like like he was putting in stuff that the coaches weren't privy to there was that one and then the one about quarterback

sneaks they were like so and so has so many quarterback sneaks he was like oh fascinating cool and then just like went off to it like i like seeing him just being like a dick yeah that's like being a human because every day seemingly was the same day for tom brady for a long time yeah and that's because that's what bill belichick was now bill belichick dressed up vastly differently he literally didn't dress up at all he looked terrible yeah while saying the same thing tom always had whatever fit he had whatever fashion shit he was going through at the time and then he would just say you know we tried really hard we worked really hard we're i gotta make a better play there this guy did this he's always just like boom movie character script out

of a press conference tom brady character out of a movie move on then on sideline you see him fucking throwing the microsoft bingo you see it. You hear stories behind the scenes of him being a guy. And it's like, what is Tom? What is not Tom? And I think this Jim Gray Tom and the little bit more free Tom at the press conference bodes very well for if he's going to get $375 million to be calling games. Because if he can be relatable and with his knowledge and his resume, he'll crush in the booth. No offense toony romo who

seemingly the world has turned on yeah but i think everybody's big takeaway from tony romo is that he doesn't prepare at all for any of these games doesn't really look into it doesn't try because he's tony romo he's been there he's done that like even if tom doesn't try or prepare as hard as everybody else does which we're not saying tony doesn't we do not know this is just seemingly the narrative about tony romo and why people don't like him is he's just going in there. Which I love. I mean, that's what we do every fucking day. Corona tone.

I mean, so it's a whole different whatever. But that seemingly is what people think about Tony Romo in the booth now. Tom is probably going to prepare his fucking ass off because that's Tom Brady. But even if he doesn't, he's been playing up until right now. So he knows the modern game. He knows what the game was. He knows what it is. That should carry him for at least a few years

if he wasn't to prepare at all for any of these games. And if he's going to be a human in there, let's go. $375 million is going to be well worth it. I think it would be underpaid. Well, and that's what's so difficult for both these guys in terms of retirement is they both definitely still believe that they can play at an MVP level. So it comes down to, you know, like, do I want to do this anymore?

It's like, well, you know you can do it. So it's like really – I just have a hard time believing both these guys. When you're that good, it's like, hey, if you even have a little bit left in the tank, like just a tiny bit, it's like I can't walk away knowing that – because then what if next year, you know, you're,

you're watching whatever. And it's like, Jesus Christ, I would have thrown fucking 50 touchdown passes this year. Like, I think that would eat at you forever. So it's just like addicts. Okay.

So addicts are chasing the dragon, right? Chasing the high, chasing whatever they had the first time that they want to experience again and again. And again, there is something to that with athletes that are chasing that greatness. Do you think both these guys have enough left in the tank?

I think Aaron definitely does. For sure. I didn't pay attention close enough to Tom. I saw some mic'd up moments where it felt like Tampa Buccaneers were a much different team this year than they have been, and probably the least organized, committed team Tom Brady's ever played on. For sure. Now, Tom missed 11 days and missed other shit too,

so he's a part of that whole thing. But, like, do you think Tom could still give it a go, give another run AQ? 100%. Yeah, I mean, not even a question. I think the way that he prepares. But here's the deal. Everything has to fall in line, and everything has to be on his terms. That's the way he operates.

That's the way all the great ones kind of operate. He wants it to be exactly the way he wants it to be done. He's super detail-oriented. He wants to be in control of the run game. He wants to be in control of the pass game, the protections, the whole nine yards, the screen game, everything, the meetings. He wants to control it all. And then he knows exactly who to blame if it doesn't fucking work.

Yeah, that's why he needs to go to Vegas. Yeah, because Josh McDaniels is. They grew up in that same system together, so there is no... This is what it's supposed to be. Exactly. Now, with that being said, Chandler Jones, right? The first half of the year was not Chandler Jones? No. Or at least no production.

So is McDaniels still doing what Belichick was doing? Is he still doing what he was doing in Denver, or is McDaniels trying to change the way he operates? Who's the coordinator? Who's the coordinator there? Patrick Graham. He's trying to see Who's the coordinator there? Patrick Graham. He's trying to see a Belichick guy? Yes. He is.

You're thinking Matt Patricia down over there? Well, I don't know. I mean, it's just – I thought Patrick Graham. That's what I was wondering. I was wondering if it was like same scheme, same system. Definitely. Definitely we could go over there and change whatever the hell they want. But Brady also, is there a chance that they don't hire an OC in Tampa

and they're just like, hey, Tom, you can just be the OC? No. I mean, they'll hire somebody whether or not they have control. Whoa, whoa, whoa. What are you saying? If Tom's there, he's going to want to have control. Yeah, it's Tom's show. That's what I mean.

Would they just not hire an OC? How come he wasn't calling plays? I don't understand. I'm very – I don't know Tom at all. wasn't calling plays i don't understand i'm very i don't know tom at all he's quote tweeted one of my tweets before and saying although we've never met personally he appreciates whatever we said that's literally the most interaction i've had know a lot of people that know him have heard a lot of stories i'm assuming he knows that i exist i don't know him well enough to know why he's not fucking calling play exactly that's the is that just not his style i

don't know i mean we've talked about it a bunch like listen every time they went two minute this year of hurry up it's money they roll well that's what i'm saying though and he's tom brady so he should have the capability because he has the greatest resume in the history of sport to be like i'm calling a place yeah this is just what we're doing we've also talked about this too like i mean you've seen play sheets i'll bring a play sheet in here one day. Like, it is the Rolodex of plays. I mean, it's 165 different plays, formation, all that shit. But Lefwich is calling plays.

They're making decisions, right? It's not like that Tom is delegated to Byron Lefwich to call the plays that Tom wants because they're dropping ball. They're throwing the ball 60-some times. Like, Tom doesn't want to do that, right? Everybody says Tom Brady doesn't want to do that. He does not. Tom Brady doesn't want to do that.

Tom Brady let that continue to happen the whole season so that's what i'm confused by do you think it's the type of thing where like in new england he knew like okay mcdaniels or whoever the oc is like they're going to be just as prepared as i am like their preparation so like yeah i'm going to have choices in terms of like how i want to change things and i'm not saying anything about left which whether or not his preparation is the same. No offense. Yeah, exactly. But he wants someone who maybe he doesn't necessarily want that entire responsibility on his play-to-play.

I've got to call the offense. I've got to call everything. But I want a guy who is just as fucking prepared as I am so then I can make changes where I see fit. But I don't want the responsibility of not only do I have to play and play at a high level, but I have to fucking map out the entire offensive side. So for Tom to say, like, hey, I'm calling plays, like, not you anymore,

like there's going to be a little bit of awkwardness, a little bit of animosity, maybe a little bit of some yelling, maybe he was tired of that in his life. Maybe this year he didn't want any of that arguing or yelling. Let's go to the phones before we get out of here. That is kind of what he said to Jim Gray. Yeah. Hey, Jim, I don't need this from you yeah shut your mouth you see how this has gone the last couple years nobody's really heard it you know why because there's just no reason for

you to do what you just did jim jesus christ tom don't shoot the messenger i gotta ask but if you'd like to shoot the messenger smith and weston is a great point. Jim, you had to ask him, Jim. This is somebody that has been in a similar situation before. It's not fun. You got to ask. Yeah, what are you going to do? It's not fun.

But I don't ask any hard questions, I've been told. You know, it's like, okay. Did you see what Jim just got there? Yeah. Right. Did you see this? Good motherfucker done with his first hard question. There was a first clip they've ever used on any of these ESPN shows. Bingo.

The first one I've seen from the Let's Go podcast. Jim Gray is so pissed this morning. Of course, now they're fucking pissed. Let's go to Blake in Arkansas on the 5R Energy phone line. Remember, this is the first day our 5R Energy phone lines have been back. The number is 1-833-432-3663. Also, 1-833, the number for DaDome. Blake in Arkansas, 5RNG phone line.

What's going on, pal? Woo pig suey. How you doing? Keep it moving, woo pig. Hey, Pat, what have you done this morning? Are you telling us and the McAfee Mafia that Aaron Rodgers is going to be in studio next year? Is that what you're doing? Well, hey, I'll tell you what.

You've talked to Jim Arce, and he said, I'll give him a desk for the Thunderdome, where John Lennon wrote, imagine all the people. Hey, Aaron Rodgers. Thank you for that call, Blake. That is one of the upsides Aaron Rodgers joins the Indianapolis Colts. Be in the city, be in the town. Got a couple of houses literally you could live in, Aaron. Rebuild, though. Simple.

What's that? He doesn't want to be a part of rebuild. We're not in a rebuild. Who? Are you sure? You should really think about it. What is your problem? I'm just saying.

If we get Aaron Rodgers here, we're going to the Super Bowl. It's a reload. It's a definition. We had the fifth best odds in the AFC to go to the Super Bowl when Matt Ryan signed with this team. That's right. What about Matt? He's still under contract.

Fourth pick. Matt's still under contract. Exactly. You're going to pay $100 million. Matt's so good on CBS. Listen, Matt. You know it, we know it. You've done fantastic in your NFL career. You've done so good that your resume is uncompetable with a lot of people.

You're so good on TV. You were born to be on television. Now's the time, Matt. Take that baton, run with it. With that being said, Aaron Rodgers as Colts quarterback would be fantastic. All you got to pay him $60 million. We paid $140 million for a bunch of other quarterbacks that aren't on the roster anymore. Exactly.

That is nothing. That is four guitars that Jim Mercy might have to move out of the memorabilia museum that he has over at the Colts facility. Let's go. Greeny's got him at the Jets. The Jets. Who wants to go to the Jets? Nobody.

No chance. He's playing for the Colts. Mike White is the quarterback for the Jets, and if he's not, then bring Mike White to Indianapolis. All right, let's get to a break. A.J. Hawk, who won 4-0 this past weekend on his picks against the spread, will be joining us. Excited to get his thoughts on this Aaron Rodgers Tuesday about the seemingly already done deal that Aaron's being traded from the Packers.

Now, we have not heard from Aaron that he still wants to play football. Exactly. That is the first decision that has to be made by Aaron Rodgers. But if he does decide that, everybody's got his ass traded already. Yep. What does A.J. think? What does A.J. know? We shall see. And then Aaron Rodgers will join us in one hour

to chit-chat about what he's been up to for the last week. We assume a lot of it revolves around watching whales fuck each other in the Pacific Ocean. That was a good time. I love that. Is that what we got from him last week? That's what we got. I've been whale watching before. Good time.

Yeah, it's pretty cool. Whenever you see them come fly up out of the air, and I don't know whale fornicating enough if they just finished when they were doing that or they're attracting. But it is awesome seeing these massive fucking buildings. Yeah. Which is what the whales are sized up. Spectacle. Buildings jump up out of the water and then just fucking boom. And then fucking blowhole.

Yeah. It's like, how do those things exist out there? Crazy. Because they're boning. They're recreating right now. That's right. Avatar wants to. That's what Aaron's been checking out.

And that big dumb one that was off by itself. No spoilers. Real important to the plot, I think. Very important. I didn't see the end, but I think I got it figured out. Oh, yeah. I got nominated for Best Picture. Did it?

Yeah. Hell, yeah. Hey, baby. Jimmy. Did Tom come? Yes, sure did. Oh, so Cruz didn't get nominated for Best Actor. No, he's a producer, though, so he got an Oscar.

There's some media awards that are coming up that I just got a little bit of a heads up for. You talking about the Albies? The Albie All-Pro team is certainly going to come out today or tomorrow. Excited to hear that. I don't want to win any of these awards. I don't want us to win any of these awards. Because then we have to celebrate these awards. Well, do we?

And then whenever we don't win these awards, which will be immediately after they give us these awards, they regret giving us these awards. When we don't win, we have to act upset that we didn't win it. So it's like I'm an anti-award guy. Exactly. People saying way too many nice things about us, and me, and everything we've done.

And we're lucky to be here. But the awards thing is interesting. Because do you care? It's awesome being honored. But if I don't win, do I care? No. So should I care if I win? I don't know.

This is the athlete, I think. This is like the ebbs and flows here. Yeah, I've won. Like if you get, you're probably going to get. But if you just... Stay right right there you're always there so it's an interesting thing that we've entered here yeah only trophies we want and the awards that we want are sitting right there right right below your desk behind you boom that's right hell yeah yeah yeah Lordo That's right That's why Lordo made that sound

We earned this one Yep Is that the only one? Love you Lordo Oh Oh you don't say Boom Larry O'Brien

Yeah Larry O.B Larry O.B The Bulls stopped by today They did No Lombardi? Fucking Michael Jordan in here Nah we don't want to.

Because I might go back and play when I'm 40. If I want to jinx it. We need to get to the soccer Lombardi though. Also this. Hell yeah. Plum Little League football won the fucking Super Bowl. We fucking did it! Donated

I forget how much to the I think $250,000 to them. What they do, got new uniforms, won the Super Bowl. What's up? No big deal. We're all Mustangs here, baby. Hell yeah. Goddamn right.

What? We're all Stangs. Congrats to them. I have no idea how old they are. Congrats to them. Champions. That's a good sign for the future. Bunch of dogs on that team.

And the cheerleaders, they won the award too. Best in the division. Bunch of dogs on that team. And the cheerleaders, they won the award too. Best in the division. Boom! Joining us now, best friend of Aaron Rodgers, a man who's the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers, a Super Bowl champion, a college football national champion, a Ryder Cup champion, COVID survivor, and a man who's on fire when it comes to picking against the spread, A.J. Hawk.

Yeah! and a man who's on fire when it comes to picking against the spread, A.J. Hawk. Yay! A.J. A.Q.'s here. Tund Diggs is here. The Toxic Table's here. We are so excited that you are joining us because it feels as if, and I don't know if you're getting this reading in Ohio, and Ohio is obviously different,

it feels as if on this Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, January 24th, where Aaron will join us in about 50 minutes or so, he's getting traded. Peter King says for two first rounders that is now the conversation he's out the door going and playing somewhere else this means a lot of things this means Aaron wants to come back and play this means that the Packers would like to rebuild and move on with the next generation and this means that the Colts are going to have Aaron Rodgers is that what I'm hearing is that what you're expecting and where did this come from AJ it sounds like it's all coming from peter peter king correct is that who and shefty i guess peter and shefty two big swinging hey in the nfl swinging

meats in the media business you are correct there when you say that yeah shefter doubled down on it and was like hey probably to an afc team if they are to trade now is he trying to feed mike greenberg you know to think that the jets are going to be in the conversation or is it going to be the titans or the Colts or literally 10 other teams that would want Aaron Rodgers' services immediately upon hearing that he's on the move. Is it $60 million? Is it $40 million? What is it? We do not know.

But this morning, it feels as if it's just understood that Aaron Rodgers is coming back to play and it's not for the Packers. So your thoughts on that. Peter and Shefty big swing and Peters you try to deflect your actual thoughts on this though just being a matter of fact almost at this point which makes no sense at all yeah it doesn't it doesn't really make any sense but I guess you you can definitely see like how they're speculating saying this could happen you could you could say yeah if the Packers do not want him back there and they want to move

on from I guess these are the options that we could have. And it makes sense that they wouldn't want to trade him in the NFC. I understand that. But what if he wants to come back and play for the Packers? Then what? Done deal. Run it back. No, no, no.

It doesn't matter because, remember, it's a two-way street. He said that, which was the reason why everybody called him this fucking guy. That's why a lot of Packers fans kept saying that because for the third year in a row, it's Aaron saying, like, yeah, I would. But also, the other side has got to do their part. Packers fans are like, oh, they paid you how much money? They obviously want you back. Get them out of here.

I'm sick of dealing with this guy. People on TV, obviously the Packers would want Aaron Rodgers back. Well, Aaron didn't just tell us on this show, with the history that we've had with Aaron Rodgers Tuesdays, where everybody hears fucking everything that he said on this particular show in the sports world. He wouldn't have just floated that out there if he didn't think there was a chance that the Packers didn't want him, you know? Like, as soon as he said, that's a two-way street, you know, that's a two-way conversation,

I'm not here for a rebuild, I'm not here to do that, it's like, oh, so he must have gotten a sense in some of his couple hour-long meetings that he had with the Packers front office, which happens yearly, I guess. Obviously, over the past couple years, it's been a little bit different because that's been a talking point two years back on how much Aaron has say and how much he listens to and everything like that. So as soon as you said it, I'm like, there has to be a reason that he has a feeling that they might want to move on now you got peter king shefty who are their sources not aaron right no i would imagine it's not aaron but also another wrinkle to the whole situation i saw the report where the floor gave that the staff has their normal time off like they're off until like the second week in february now like they're out of the building. So you think they're all taking their time? Does the floor matter in this whole thing?

No, right? Yeah, I guess. I mean, yeah, I'm sure he does. He definitely has to have a say in it. You think? Really? I don't think so. I'm sure they consult with him if they're going to make a monumental decision like that.

You think? You don't think they're going to talk to the head coach? I don't know, dude. I'm not claiming i'm not i i'm not claiming he has a ton of power he has no power i have i don't know clue how much they would like they they value his input but i'm sure he's a part of it yes okay so let's just talk about if we were owners of a program now remember the packers do not have an owner massive part of the problem that they continue to go into because they don't have one person making decisions, which could potentially offend some people.

Seemingly, you know, that has been something that has affected the Green Bay Packers over the last few years with the Aaron Rodgers situation. If we were to own a team, when we're hiring a head coach and we got a Hall of Fame quarterback, we're probably going to say, hey, do you potentially like this guy's offense? How do you feel? Not that you need to give the okay, but he wasn't even consulted at all, right? When LaFleur was hired? I guess not. Yeah, that was part of the problem, right? Yes. So just assuming that LaFleur is going to get any say in what the future is, is, I think, reasonable and logical, but the Packers have not acted in that fashion when it comes to these types of decisions in the very recent history. You know what I mean?

Yeah, that's definitely true, but he would be aware of it. There's no way it's going to happen. He's going to hear it on Twitter. I don't think the head coach finds out that way. Yeah, he's in the know, you think. You think he's in the know? I would imagine if he's not, I'd be pretty pissed. If I was the head coach and I didn't know the direction we were going well that's why i thought

it was very okay for aaron to be fucking furious whenever they just hired a coach without him even getting a heads up because no offense to matt lafleur aaron rogers has accomplished 10x what you have in the nfl although you have had an incredible amount of success and i think everybody has respect for him i don't i don't ask enough. He has those great eyebrows, and I see his commercials and everything like that. But I'm not necessarily sold that he has any fucking say in who we're going with going forward, which is wild. I don't think it's like that in every building. I'm just talking about Packers specific, if that makes sense.

Yeah, and it's different. So when I was in Green Bay, Ted Thompson was the GM, and I don't it's different so when i was in green bay ted thompson was the gm and i i don't know like all the details but i know largely like ted did that ted controlled the roster he controlled who was there who we cut who we brought in and then big mike and the squad coached the team and they didn't really mess with each other too much like that's how i think it was set up for a while now i'm sure mike had had say in it and he was involved in everything but i know he wasn't like the he wasn't expected to be the ringleader to put the roster together. Hey, Big Mike might be back on move. I'd like to let Big Mike

know. You can be offense coordinator for Aaron Rodgers yet again. Right here. Boom. Indianapolis, Indiana. One of my kids asked that yesterday. Could Uncle Aaron go to Indy? He could go to the Colts. I don't see why not. Maybe. Wow. Tell them Uncle Pat is thinking pretty heavily that Uncle Aaron's coming over to Indy? He could go to the Colts. I don't see why not. Maybe. Wow. Tell them Uncle Pat is thinking pretty heavily that Uncle Aaron's coming over to Indy.

And you know what that means? Maybe Dad and Mom can move to Indy as well. Make everybody's life easier. Huh? Yeah, I don't think that's going to happen. But, you know. Come on. Aaron said never say never.

I'd never say never. We could get General Bob over here. We could find a neighborhood. In the side of the igloo, that big old open field. We could build a little tiny house there. Okay, so I'm thinking about rolling that actually, putting some uprights there, and just like kicking. Put a field turf.

Put a full field turf field in. Play seven on seven. Or 50 yards. Listen. You're not wearing cleats on there. You don't wear cleats. You're all right. No, but I'm thinking I'm 35.

After talking to Vinny yesterday, Vinny was like 43 kicking in the NFL. Yeah. You know? I'm like, I could legitimately probably have a full career here. You know, we go for another five. That's a long time in this. I'm 40. If I just keep it, you know, around.

They got young guys that can do the kicking off and the punting, which takes a lot of things. I mean, there's, why not keep it a lot? Like, when everybody was tweeting me. Now, RG3 was doing it. He was not the first person to do it. A lot of other people were tweeting me. Like, why don't you go kick for the Cowboys? It's like, I've never kicked in the NFL.

Okay, so that is, that would be quite an egregious thing for me to do, just coming out of a five-year retirement, you know, nominated for Hall of Fame, running out of players' insurance from the NFL, okay, never kicked in the NFL, either only in practices, but everybody's seen me in practice pretty good. That would have to be who the coaches would be for whatever team is that,

is the people that have seen me kick in practice. Why not keep it? You know what I mean? Why not? Why not for like a week 18, week 19? You know what I mean? Why not? Why not for like a week 18, week 19? You know what I mean? It would be obviously hell to deal with with our deals of FanDuel and with the NFL and the Colts.

It would be hell to deal with. But should keep that alive. Why not? Why not? It doesn't die. It's not going to die. You're not going to forget how to kick. I think so.

And I'm in better shape now than i was which is once again i apologize to me for not taking advantage of all the opportunities i had when i was younger but if it's not broke don't fix it should have probably done a little bit more probably in the core department in the diet department cardio department probably should have done more why does any of that matter when it comes to punting and kicking i don't think it matters you gotta be explosive bro gotta be like very explosive whenever it comes to like kicking a ball in the nfl you have to be explosive that's the difference you can be a big you can be a big sloppy body and still be explosive punting and kicking though i agree but i don't think you're able to do it as consistent if you're not in

shape it makes sense like the years i was my best was when i was in my best shape and it's fucking obviously goes it makes sense that was the end of my career. I figured it out. End of my career. You know, like, oh, should be in shape. But it's like the first four years I did that when I probably should have. But, man, you got to remember, I could really drink with the best of them. Yeah.

And I was, you know, it was good times. I could really. Your path is your path. Your path is what it was. It is. But I think that's what we're doing with that field. And we should. We should set up an NFL PA alum seven-on-seven thing out there too.

We could really turn that field into something. Now, I don't know how the neighbors would feel. We're not going to use it every single day. But that field is a weapon. I completely forget about it sometimes because when I pull in, I don't really see it. Where I park, I don't really see it. I walk in, I don't really see it.

And then I took a little walk around the other night and I was like oh fuck this whole thing is awesome this is a full you could honestly bubble it oh my god we have an indoor practice facility what are we doing

old buddy that showed up at the city council he may have something to say about it if you want to put a giant bubble right there, but I think you should give it a shot. I object, by the way. Get the fuck out of there. Have we seen him? He's seen us. He's been sitting on his board.

He's watching. I wonder how many red dots I've had on my body. Just walking into this place. Bill's got red dots right back on him, so oh just walking into this place bill has bills hadn't bill's got red dots right back on him so don't worry well bill's been a photographer these days yeah fucking good photos yeah he's been sniping here and outside billy picks we appreciate you is billy with the workout program as well like zito is good job day four nice bill's been getting

after over here too he's been doing full body workouts every day. Oh, yeah. Deadlifted. Every day. P90X. Remember, that took over the world. A.Q., did you ever do P90X? Was that Tybo? P90X, they had a guy doing leg day.

He had one leg only. What's that? P90X, the leg day workout. There's a guy doing it, and he only has one leg. So what's your excuse? He makes you feel bad the whole time. Yeah, well, that's a good motivator, making people feel bad. Guilt tripping has been something that people have done since the beginning of time to make things happen.

Not saying that is, but that would be quite motivating. No, it was. It was guilt tripping all the way. That would be quite motivating. Let's go over some other news stories. Aaron's getting traded. We know that. Yeah, understandable. Greeny is very excited for the possibility of New York. He said he was going to call me today to ask Aaron

if he would want to go to New York. Yeah, he gave you a call? He did not call me. Maybe he'll call me afterwards and ask me why I didn't call. Maybe he'll call the phone line. 1-833-4-DUDDOME. If you heard about this, AJ, 5 Energy phone line's back. It's back, man. It's been a long time, hasn't it?

Let's go to Isaac in Texas. Isaac, what's going on, pal, on the 5 Energy phone line? Yo, yo, Matt, can you hear me? Yep. Yep, Pat and AJ. I'm at work. Hey, no worries. Nah, nah, I'm off.

Where do you work? Hey, uh, hey, I just want to congratulate y'all for the big blow up for the sponsorship. I ain't going to lie, y'all doing y'all thing. Keep it up. Y'all really, y'all really help. I ain't going to lie, but I just want to, all this Aaron Rodgers speculation, I want to get out the air. Aaron Rodgers is going to the Jets, and he's going to win the Super Bowl,

and he's going to go out just like Peyton Manning went out. He's going to make that franchise something. Okay. A lot of people feel that way. We had a call from Bobby in Jersey this morning. He said it's either Aaron or Lamar at the Jets next year. Rappaport

reported yesterday Aaron and Zach Wilson have a relationship. Be the backup. Oh, man. You think? I couldn't hear the caller at all, so I don't know what he said, but yeah. That would be cool. I feel like that's something we're going to have to fix in the back there all, so I don't know what he said. But, yeah, that would be cool. I feel like that's something we're going to have to fix in the back there.

Aaron and Zach Wills go hunting together. Yeah, milf hunting. Boom! Gotcha, Tony. Not planned. Cougars! Yeah. Should have let AJ play context clues there, I think.

Yeah. On the phone call? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, AQ couldn't hear the first call. Had to turn his ears on for the phone. You couldn't hear that call. Have to turn your ears on for that phone. Nick couldn't hear that call, have to turn your ears on for that phone.

Nick's got to figure it out back there. Nick has a great shirt from 1999. Oh, yeah. Hell, yeah. Let's see it. Other side, jackass. What? What's on the other side?

Stern, Cold, Steve, Terminator, Austin. What? Thank you for hearing ours. Raw 30 was last night, did you watch any of it AJ? I actually missed that one I'm going to go back and watch it Oh you DVR'd it Did The Rock come back or Cena? No, Hulkster

Yeah, the American Badass Yeah, Tank was back as the American Badass Seemingly handing the baton to Bray Wyatt For being like the enigma creature Of the WWE Wow What was that? What's your eye roll for?

Because Bray Wyatt ain't fucking Take So let's pump the brakes The Fiend, I get it Firefly Funhouse He ain't fucking Take There ain't no fucking Deadman Other than the Deadman The Deadman should have came out That that how they were going to do it.

DX was there. Kurt Angle was there last night. What made them all come back? The 30-year reunion? 30th anniversary of the Raw. They've been going for 30 years straight, not every week. Wild. Kurt Angle and Vinny could be twins.

Vinny, hey, you didn't get to feel and experience Vinny yesterday, dude? He is so strapped right now. Shredded. I mean, just not shredded yet. He's getting to a shred. Pretty shredded. He is. His head, he looks just like a physical specimen.

His head, traps, shoulders. He's just a thick dude. I think his head and neck are the same size. Do you look that way real quick? Smaller. Like you're talking toxic table? Hey, boys. Same size.

Yeah, I think that was the same thing right there. Same profile. AQ looks good. He does, doesn't he? You do look good in retirement. Thanks, AJ. Jay Glazer moved out of town, so he's not scared to go to the fight club. Yeah, he's true.

Right? What? I'm back, though, soon. I'm back. Soon? Soon? You're still not in? When do you guys go?

When does practice start? 8 a.m. Wednesdays and Fridays. So tomorrow. You can't make it. 8 a.m. local? Who's the basement? Oh, it's called WTF, Walt's Training Facility. Mr. Walt's.

Mr. Walt's. We got a member of our fight team fighting next week, Ryan Bader. Let's go. Let's go, Bader. Where's he fighting? Bader's fight team? Are you serious? Yeah, Bader comes through.

Bader's awesome. He's part of their basement team. You know, Bader's got a wrestling team, a basement team, a fighting team, a striking team. Master team. AQ's part of the master team. He's part of the master training, obviously. For sure.

Are you going to be at the fight? Where's the fight? No, it's in California. I was. Are you going to be at the fight? Where's the fight? No, it's in California. I was hoping it was going to be in Phoenix, but it's in California. Can't make the trip. Can't make the trip. Is this like Hustlers University? Basically.

Yeah, essentially. I don't know what that is. Is that an OnlyFans? It's an Andrew Tate thing. That bald guy. Subscription-based thing. Hey, guy's a bad guy, I heard. Yeah, very bad guy.

It sure seems like it, but I don't know who's signed up for Hustlers University, whatever program he's selling. I don't know anything about him. This is the, I've heard some things, all bad. But everybody, I don't know, I did not know he existed before he got banned from the internet. Exactly.

This happens to me a lot because I have been on the internet for a long time, but I'm just on my internet. And I'm appreciative of everybody else that does the internet and has businesses in the internet. And I got massive respect for anybody that's able to make a living off the internet because it's not easy. It's a lot of work, time consuming, all that stuff. But I feel like I'm a rather guarded internet person. I'm pretty proud of that. Actually, I haven't fucked with my algorithm enough to get enough stuff in there. They kind of know who I am am they keep me in my own world so when

i learn of these people normally it's whenever they're getting kicked off the internet forever it's wild this has been a wild internet just tate is the most recent one that has got yeah banned from the internet that i learned of his existence at that point and then obviously billy yeah bill knows everything about bill mccomis knows his entire life story yeah the guy told me his whole life story pretty much. I was kind of with you. I became aware of him probably shortly before he was booted, I think. People like that pop up in your reels.

So Bill told me he was in jail, out of jail, back in jail. That's what Bill told me. So he's in jail now. He was out of jail at one point. Got caught twice. It's in one of those countries. Yeah, Bill said Romania. at one point. Caught twice. It's in one of those countries.

Yeah, Bill said Romania. And he said he went there because their sex crimes are a little more lax than elsewhere. Allegedly. That's what Bill said. This is where all the cam houses are. Yes, actually.

But you hear the word Romania, I just automatically assume I'm going to get held hostage somewhere. Yes, taken. Locked up abroad. Boom. Yeah, Neeson. What a show.

Yeah. You guys, have you watched The Last of Us, AJ? I have not. Is it good? Here we go. Unbelievable. Come on. Come on.

I've seen it. I know people talk about it. I've thought about it a few times, just haven't made the leap. So it's a zombie thing. Okay. Okay. I probably won't. Boom.

Apocalypse Kind of tough for me To do zombie stuff too I guess from the zombie people Though Dawn of the Dead was great though That was a great zombie movie So is that a zombie thing?

Yeah And Shaun of the Dead Also is really good So I don't do any zombie stuff That's what I'm thinking of I can't do dragons I can't do zombie stuff I can't do Harry Potter

Wizard stuff Come on I'm too basic I'm too dumb I'm too dumb I can't do it Pittsburgh I can't do it I can't do Harry Potter wizard stuff. Come on. I'm too basic. I'm too dumb. I'm too dumb. I can't do it. Pittsburgh invented zombie stuff. I can't do it. I'm not the only person.

I don't believe in sci-fi. Zombies aren't sci-fi. They're real. I don't believe in anything that's fake. Nick just said Pittsburgh invented zombies. They did. Shout out George A. Romero. Minerva Mall. I've heard about it. I know all the it. I know. I know all the history.

I am not smart enough to watch something that has these and go, oh, I'm interested. I'm immediately disinterested. Whenever I see it, I'm like, okay, it's never going to happen. I need to think that it could potentially happen. That's how basic I am. This could happen. This is one thing that can definitely happen. Even animated stuff.

I need to know that this could potentially happen secret life of pets boom toy story boom loved it yeah loved everything but boom love it just need I can't buy in to zombies and I don't want to be scared either so I'm not signing up to get scared I can't do the fucking I tried my best to do the uh the thrones thing I just as soon as i see the dragon i'm like okay that's not real all right can't do it you can't i can't aj i think we're that's because we're dumb we are not i know we're not i'm not smart enough to follow the 75 storylines going on bing i can't buy into that that's on me i'm not i'm not a smart enough person

to do it so it's not me knocking the people that can. This is me knocking me because there's a lot of people that are into this, and I'm not. The Last of Us, I have watched the first episode and now the second episode. Here we go. It is a zombie thing. Okay, I will say it's a zombie thing. Tough to believe, but also kind of could see. Could happen. Last night, they spent 35 minutes doing fucking nothing.

Okay? I don't need 35 minutes of fucking nothing in episode 2. And I think that's where me and AQ are too dumb. I don't have time for 35 minutes of story setting. Okay? I need you to set that story in one scene. I need you to go into a place that has the date on the wall.

I need to see who's living with who, who's pissed at who, and move on. That's how basic I am. 35 minutes left. So you like the pilot, though? The first episode? Yes, pilot. For you to get to the second episode, it's a big deal. It's a big deal. The first episode was tough, too. No spoilers. Is it viral? Yeah, it's

through being bit. You can tell us. Oh, no. We're only on episode two. 5.7 million people watching the first 24 hours So it's like the most well liked thing I like the guy who's the actor He's great in Narcos He's great in everything

He's solid in this as well He's a beast and the girl If you watch the first episode The fact that you even started the second episode Says a lot because you normally don't get through 5 minutes There's nothing else to watch right now Youingo yeah it's nothing you're right i've been in a real drought like we're trying to find something to watch tonight there is nothing nothing this takes us to succession it's unbelievable season three jack rounds unbelievable what's that that's a show

yeah it's cia analyst if you liked um is it good yeah it's unbelievable jim from the office see it's gonna be tough for me to believe. He's jocked now. He's yoked up. Have you seen him in 13 hours? Yeah, 13 hours. I understand what you're saying. This is just like when Gosling. Didn't Gosling become like a fucking badass?

The gray man. Yeah. Hell yeah. That movie sucked, though. Yeah, but Krasinski's actually like 6'3". I couldn't do gray man because Gosling is a Gosling. You're the handsome cute guy who makes people fall in love again. That's who you are.

Gosling is a problem. You need to see Drive. That's Gosling? Yeah, and he is a stunt driver just murking people. Stomping people's heads into mush. It's hard for me because I just see him as the heartthrob guy. Yeah, from the notebook. Yeah, I'm not sending him into battle.

So it's tough. Once again, this is me being dumb, not you guys. It's like Green Street Hooligan. Have you seen Green Street Hooligan where Elijah Wood? Yeah, that's tough. It's a tough sell. Yeah, but he gets zassby most of the time. Plus, he's Frodo.

Frodo's a fucking doll. That's also one of the greatest movies of all time. It is. Anyways, Last of Us, I would watch it because there's nothing else on. That's what we're saying. Okay. I might give it a shot. No Monday Night Football last night, so what are we doing? it because there's nothing else on. That's what we're saying. Okay. I might give it a shot. No Monday Night Football last night, so what are we doing?

Yeah, there's nothing else on. Yeah. But to your point, this gets us to Secession. Bingo. And as soon as that starts, that's really the in-between period, too, right before March Madness. Is that April it comes out? We have no—it was supposed to be in fall. Yes.

Then it was moved to spring. So first show I really got into a long time. Secession, love it. Yeah, so good. Great show long time. Just love it. So good. Fuck off! I need five too is where take five came from. Are you a sicko? Can they drop three at a time?

Can we meet in the middle? Linear television old school, new streaming. Can we meet in the middle at like two episodes a week? Can we do one? HBO ain't ever gonna. And Apple. Apple also only doing one, and that is another show coming out this spring,

Ted Lasso final season. How about Morning Show? You got another one coming out on that? Morning Show is coming back out. Severance. I like Morning Show. You watch Morning Show? Yeah, I don't know if I'm completely caught up,

but yeah, I like it. Yeah, I don't remember what happened in the last couple episodes. The last season ended with Jennifer Anderson going through the process of... It's been out a long time. It's been out for almost a year. Yeah, but I actually watch it and I don't remember.

I might watch like three or four episodes all the way. They have a recap. They have the two minute recap before you watch the season. They were in Italy a lot. They gotta do the full, like last night before the last of us i had to watch the recap of episode one for sure because it had been a week and i watched a bunch some things i forgot about episode one that while episode two was happening i was like oh yeah this

also had already happened but it wasn't in the recap just give me three fucking episodes give me two episodes so i can just at least a little bit dive in. I will tell you, fellow gamer nerds love this show. Absolutely love it. What? The last one. It was a game, right? Why is that? It's based on a video game.

Yeah, it's on a video game. The Judge is coming back for season two. Huge. Cranston. Fucking great. It's called Your Honor. Whatever. Come on.

Judge. Yeah, see, I don't watch any of this stuff. I think you would like Your Honor, the first season. It's pretty good. This guy from Breaking Bad? Yeah. He's a judge, and his son gets caught up in the New Orleans mob, and he has to, like, basic.

I mean, I think you would like it. It's only eight episodes, too. And they're already all out? It was awesome. Anyways, I would recommend The Last of Us to watch. It's good, but there's no sports on. How many episodes do they have? Two. It was awesome. Anyways, I would recommend The Last of Us to watch. It's good. There's no sports on. How many episodes do they have? Two.

It's tough. I'll wait until the season then. That's what I'm talking about. Like, I wish I could have watched those two episodes at one time. And if you need me to wait two weeks, okay, or wait a week, good. Just give me the opportunity to dive in if I can. You know what I mean? Or let me pay five bucks to watch two episodes or something.

Ooh. Yeah, upcharge it. It's a way to upcharge it. Yeah, just like DoorDash has that express that never fucking changes the amount of time. No, ever.

That's the biggest scam going right now. Yep. Which one? Seven to 17 minutes. It will come in the normal time every single time. Standard.

And it's going to be cold still because the person has somehow figured out how to manipulate their app where they're still delivering to somebody else. Right. So you're just paying more money to DoorDash. That's not even going to the driver. Nope. And it's going to be cold still because the person has somehow figured out how to manipulate their app where they're still delivering to somebody else. Right. So you're just paying more money to DoorDash. That's not even going to the driver.

Nope. And it's not working. No. So power move here. Message right when they get it. Yo, $10. Get here right now. Five minutes.

So now it's even more money. Yeah. So I never do the Express, though. But you're still paying more. The Express is only like $199. $250 sometimes, though. Sometimes $250. Depending on where it is. Right. And it's probably not the biggest scam going. though but you're still paying more the express is only like 199 250 sometimes though depending on where it is right and it's probably not the biggest scam going i'm sure there's i mean fdx still plays true sure hey it's all coming out that that's a scam yeah the uh thing like people

just not what do you mean yeah i think that was wouldn't that stated already a while ago yeah i think day one through like five the internet was was stating, hey, this is a scam, this is a scam. But the world was not recognizing it as that. And by the world, I mean like the people that are in charge of actually doing something about that. I think they're all now like, oh, yeah, this guy fucking scammed everybody. He invested like $500 billion or something into some crypto company overseas somewhere in some country. That's a big part of it. There's all kinds of stuff. Are they sponsoring the Let's Go pod? FTX?

He lost what? I thought it was Ty. I thought that was Ty asking questions for real when I heard the clip. Oh, when you're talking about Tom Brady. If I fucking knew, Jim, I would already do it. What did you think about that? Let's run it one more again because AJ hasn't been on whenever it played.

I don't know if he's really mad. I don't know if he's really mad or he's messing with him. No, I think he's a human. This is the first time I think Tom Brady's been a human, which I love. Like, I enjoy this answer. I also enjoy the fact that Jim has to ask this question. So, Jim and I, you know, kind of had to share a situation there. Not saying that I'm anywhere near the journalist that Jim is.

I'm not a journalist. He is an actual journalist. But having to ask a question that the whole world would like to know yes to the person that is in there is not necessarily a fun spot you asked him about getting traded yeah and if you'd be able to play that was incredible a.a.j that was an incredible question to aaron that was an awesome question not easy to ask those things like how we get to those questions is a part of the whole thing. You know, it's like a part, if it comes up, how it doesn't come up, how should we address this? What are the potential thoughts of this? Like that is actually thought about as the conversation is taking place. So it's a fascinating scene. Jim Gray on the let's go podcast had to ask

Tom a question. And when you hear him asking the question, to AJ's point, this is not Ty Schmidt. This is actually Jim Gray, and this is actually Tom Brady responding from yesterday's Let's Go podcast on SiriusXM. Tom, you're leaving everybody guessing. You said you'll take your time. Do you have any type of a timetable as to what you might want to do regarding your football career? Jim, if I knew what I was going to f*** have already done it okay i'm taking a day at a time aj what you hear there i

heard a guy that said like we talked about this in first hour i heard a guy that was like listen my ex-wife okay ask me a lot of these same questions okay jim i don't need you ask these questions with that being said i'll fucking figure it out when I do, pal. I love that answer from Tom. Felt like a real human. Your thoughts? Yeah, it did feel like a real human. And right after that, too, Tom said, I appreciate you asking, though, didn't he?

He tried to soften it a little bit in case Jim's feelings were hurt, which I think Jim's a big boy. He can handle it. He knows. He's a journalist. He's a journalist. He asked a tough question. Speaking of journalism, I heard a lot of journalists

talking about the journalistic integrity of DallasCowboys.com and their reporters reporting and having some sort of Big J narrative before and bigger than any other website that's on earth. So that's why the tweet happened. And I just wanted to be like,

you journalists are the fucking worst, bro. Honestly. Not everybody. Okay. Not every journalist is this way. But journalism doesn't mean fucking destroying somebody. I feel like that's what people think journalism is. Journalism is exposing the hard truths and saying the things that nobody wants to say.

Well, it's also like expanding stories and learning about things. It doesn't have to be just killing somebody. We're not in politics. This isn't politics where we're holding politicians accountable. Like that's not what we're doing. That's not what our job is. Yeah, these people have no power over your life. These people are just playing sports.

Like politics, if you've got to tear somebody down and point out things that they've done in the past because this person is going to have power over you and making decisions and how we live our lives we get it okay we we understand you gotta do what you gotta do and that seems to be the politics world but like in sports journalism doesn't just mean fucking murdering somebody let alone whenever it's the organization that just paid the guy more money than anybody else that's in there in their organization tweeting which everybody understands what twitter is at this point unless

the journalists don't unless the journalists don't fully understand what Twitter is and how it would be responded. I would love to do a journalism report on what Twitter is and how it operates and how the team, Dallas Cowboys, with the gold checkmark, with the NFL players, shouldn't be burying their fucking franchise quarterback when everybody else is. And I would love to dive into the journalism behind that. But that was really what people were saying about DallasCowboys.com. It's like they're a journalism website. Long before anybody else was.

Long after anybody else does. It's like, cool, you can have that on your website then. To tweet out that statement from that organization is just so fucking dumb. I can't even fathom how anybody would go to that. But once again, there were people that were and the cowboys still have that tweet up it makes no sense to me i don't fully understand it oh it's like a calling card for you know every all all the fans are already going crazy and saying ridiculous shit about dac whether it's warranted or not but then the team puts that out and it's like

have at it you know pile on this guy telling me sucks and to your point like we're talking about sports like not all journalism is investigative journalism. We're like, you have to unravel some deep-seated conspiracy or, like, you know, try to prove that someone's corrupt or something. Like, we're talking about a fucking quarterback of a football team. Like, you know, it's a game. It might be one thing, too, if they quoted the author in the tweet, but the way it was tweeted out just makes it look like it's just a tweet from the team.

No, the social media manager knows, though. Remember, they got a social media degree. Yeah, that's where it's going to go. You know? And Jerry's like, is this what other teams do? Absolutely. It's directly from there. It's a quote or whatever.

Well, fucking run it then, which is taking place, too. Old money, hiring new people to run the new age stuff. But those new age stuff people, they didn't run a business, which is what you have to do with your social media. You're running a full-on business on your social media. Everything that you say is coming from your company. Everything you say is either building fans or tearing fans down, building things or tearing things down.

And I feel like this is an abuse of characters by the Dallas Cowboys Twitter account, whoever's running it, on their guy. Like, hey, everybody's killing our guy. We need to be the ones that maybe don't kill. Maybe we do some journalism about how he had the most touchdowns in the NFL thrown since week seven or whatever. I think he had like 27, had the most touchdowns in the NFL thrown. Maybe that's

a good piece of journalism to put out there for your guy for that works for your company it's okay to go to bat for somebody too like i don't understand how this is a thing i don't understand how it even happened well how do they pick and choose if you're if they're like the cowboys twitter account and they're journalists how do they pick and choose what they report on there's plenty other stuff that i'm sure dirt that they know that they can report on what do they how do they know what what is for public consumption what is not and i don't think you have to baby face everybody all the time except for maybe your franchise quarterback that you've just paid 40 million dollars to maybe maybe baby face him because everybody else is tearing him down but

i saw that stat about him having the most touchdowns thrown this year over a span i forget what it was towards the end of the year it's like well that i should have learned that from the cowboys twitter account that's that's a stat i should have learned from the doubt it just i feel like there isn't really uh like hey twitter account's a promotional thing for the team if you're like if you're the dallas cowboys twitter account you're it's a promotional tool straight marketing i feel like once again we have offended nfl team social media managers for telling them that they don't fucking know football or how to build a team or how to run any type of social media thing of all time. And remember, they're the kings at these teams to a lot of people. And they have decks that they show how many likes and views.

And those numbers obviously blow the minds of these fucking old fucks who might have their own Instagram that gets 50 likes. And then they see, oh, this thing's got 1.5 million impressions. Holy, you're doing a great job. It's like, no, you're not. There's a lot of terrible people running social medias right now. And they're the kings in their building, so nobody can ever tell them that. And they kind of get so comfortable in their position that they hire people. And then people are reporting to these people.

It's like things have spiraled quickly because people understand that social media matters. But there's a lot of keys to Ferraris getting handed over to people that can't fucking drive. And that's happening. And I think that happened in Dallas, to be honest. And that's the biggest franchise in the world. They got this type of thing going on.

And you've said it before. A lot of people, like casual fans, the Twitter account is the only interaction they have with the team. Yeah, they may watch the games on Sunday, but all the news they get about their team is from the Twitter account. And I assume the Cowboys are the most followed Twitter account in the NFL. So you got all these casual fans who, yeah, maybe watch the game, but they see that and they're like, oh, I guess Dak fucking sucks now.

Like, let's get this guy out of town. That's a narrative building. Yeah, for sure. That's a narrative building tweet that it almost feels like they're doing it on purpose to get rid of him. But if you're trying to trade him, why the fuck would you put that out? Zero cents. AQ Shipley, as the master of Twitter that you are, what are your thoughts on the Dallas Cowboys in this whole situation? I thought it was a joke.

I thought it was like a fake account a fake account i mean i had to like check it a couple times and then you guys put it out yesterday i'm like oh it's fucking real like this is crazy the fact is is like those twitter accounts should be putting i mean it should be very political based like they should be keeping it very very simple good news this that and the other you think just bury the guy. Because he buried him. I just want to say this, and this is for a lot of people, and I think it's why I like the New Heights podcast so much.

It's very easy to do numbers by burying people. Very easy. Hate brings a lot of people together. So if you just want to be a negative person on the internet, you're going to garner views. You're going to garner likes. You're going to garner everything. Now, none of those people are going to listen to you. Those people are strictly going to use to hear somebody lay out how they feel.

So whenever they go into a conversation with somebody, they can use some of that and love it. But I don't think it's a good way to build a company personally. I don't think it's a good way to build up something that's real because like hate watching and hate views and everything, I don't think they're meaningful. I don't think they're real because I think a lot of people think that they're fake or not real. Or why would you want to go to something that's so negative all the time to really get an actual grasp on what you should do whenever you're sports gambling or anything like that? I don't think it's the right play, but I think it's an easy way to get numbers. So I think a lot of people kind of get infatuated with the numbers. They get a little drunk with the numbers whenever they see like, oh, when I do this, this goes up.

And a lot of people are operating on that bottom line. I need this many retweets. I need this many views. And people are doing this that aren't just businesses. They're actual humans doing it as well. They see the most action and their best tweets are the ones in which they kill somebody or bury somebody. And then they're like, boom, that's what I'm going to do.

I think it's easy to get into that trap. I mean, we've buried a couple of people obviously before, but I don't like it. Like I don't like, I think it's hard enough already to fucking exist. I think it's hard enough to be in the NFL. And I think people should understand that. And I don't think that's a cool existence on the internet. Just be super fucking negative either. I don't know why the Cowboys would want

their mentions all day to be filled up with, you're right, that's it's like, I don't know why It's going to attract those people too. It's also going to attract those kind of people that yeah, I mean who, I get it, like I don't know why, like what is it about humans? Why do we want to, like why do we hate watch sometimes?

Or why do, why does it feel good for people to see other people get killed? To be clear, I'm not a big fan of it. Ty Schmidt certainly does. What is it about it? Just learning about the person, learning more about why you hate something? I'll be honest. I don't do it nearly as much as I used to. I think having a kid has kind of changed that a little bit because you don't want to just be super negative all the time.

But a lot of times when you watch that kind of stuff stuff it's just like i just want to laugh it's funny like this is so bad it's funny or you want to see what not to do too like you want to because a lot of times some people get in the game they're they're on the internet or whatever and then they get comfortable and they get in that lane of being like negative okay this is how i can go and then you become that person well you don't want to ever let yourself yourself slip into that person but you got to think about the deck that is about to come from this dallas cowboys tweet yeah oh yeah it was it was mentioned on get up it was mentioned on first page it was mentioned on this the amount of impressions it got was at this and that's like their presentation and not even like then given

the reverse effects of it yeah like now our mentions for the next uh 72 hours we're burying our franchise quarterback it does feel as if everybody in cowboys nation was maybe on the fence about that certainly has come to our side so if we're going to have him back next year expect some sort of drawback although like that's not being you know what i mean that's not that's probably not being displayed in the presentation the monthly report of that whole thing so these are just things i, that we think about because we're in the social business and we're also in the fucking NFL for a bit. That I don't think ever like that social person is going to be around Dak. Yeah, they're going to be around each other. They're going to be in the building.

And Dak's supposed to just be like, oh, yeah, you you had to do it. You had to post that. No, Dak's a human. He should be like, fuck you. Yeah. Everybody on Earth wanted to kill me that day. The only people I needed was my team almost. And the social part, he's a part of the team.

That is a part of the team. And I just think that was disgusting. I do. I don't like it. From a team-based thing, I don't think that was a good move. It's way different. You're not talking about a beat writer writing a scathing story about him. You're talking about the team-credited Twitter account

with however many millions of followers on them. Yes. It's a different story. It's the number two right behind the Patriots, I guess. Patriots have 4.6 million. How many are real? God damn right. How many are real?

What do the Patriots post? We just post love all day, every day. Bro, they just won a Super Bowl like every other year for 20 years. Yeah, very easy. And for all you big money folks, like NFL owners that just want a bottom line, bottom line, bottom line, like you know how you win? You win. Exactly.

Your business grows. Yeah. More tickets are sold. More merch is sold. More people want to do business with you. More people watch your team. More people want to play for your team. Yeah, you win. Yeah. You know how you win, AJ.

Say it. It's crazy. How? You invest in your team. Spend money. You know, you have to invest in your team. Cincinnati Bengals are seeing that, aren't they? Uh-huh. That's nice of them. What's that? Fucking that list. Good list. What you love about it? I didn't even see. Where's Steelers? Three. Pittsburgh Steelers number three overall. What's that? Fucking that list. Good list. What you love about it?

I didn't even see it. Where's Steelers? Three. Pittsburgh Steelers, number three overall. Three's cool. Holy hell. I can't see that, obviously. Three of the best teams of all time.

The Panthers are what, five? Yeah, that's crazy. That's pretty good for them. Yeah, Tepper bought a bunch of dollars. A lot of bots, yeah. If you combine Instagram and Facebook, I believe it's still the same top three teams. You say Facebook? Yeah, I found it.

Are they calculating Facebook into this equation? No, this is just Twitter. So I was told, I'm not kidding. What was that? Wait, where are the Colts on that list? Believe me. I mean, AQ was probably there whenever I was telling the Colts about their social media presence. Oh, yeah, you were. I was telling the Colts about their social media presence. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, you were.

I was not happy with the Colts' Twitter presence. I was getting asked to go speak at, like, South by Southwest about fucking Twitter and the brand that I was building on Twitter. You know, like, hey, will you come speak at this whole thing? Not that that's that big of a deal, but that was the first time I was ever asked to speak at a panel. What do you want me to speak about? Well, what you've done on Twitter, pretty much. It's like, okay, somebody, like, is acknowledging. Sweet. And I come back to the Colts, you know, and they're running a terrible,

I mean, maybe the worst Twitter in all professional sports. And I go up to like Pete Ward. I'm like, hey, the Twitter account, like I'm having a lot of success on Twitter. I feel like the Colts can have a lot of success on Twitter. And he goes, oh, thank you. And then who was in charge of social media at that time? Not even going to get into was kid he put together a deck for Pete Ward and then Pete Ward sent it to me and said I feel like our social media is doing just fine or whatever and I'm like there's the problem yep I'm not even all right whatever I'm not even gonna get in then at some point over like the next year they hired a girl named Amber or next two years her name's Amber she's still with the team

I think she's very talented but the Colts haven't had many winning seasons since that whole thing has happened so I think the Colts social media will go if the Colts can win Blue does some good stuff he actually does

TikTok he crushes you should see who's TikTok account is the biggest because that's going to bring those young kids along as they grow. I believe Blue. Yeah. I also think the Bills have a massive TikTok. That is the cream pie guy.

Yeah. Does all the cream pies. Sorry about that, Evie. Sorry, Evie. He did not cream pie me, AJ. I hope so. I have said this before. I thought he did.

I certainly hope so. There is video evidence of Inflatable Blue beating the fuck out of Foxy. Respectfully. In his lunch. Foxy has never been cream-pied, though. Thank you, Pat. By Blue, at least. Right.

Bopped him pretty good, though. He did bop him. Yeah. A lot of bopping. Bopped him into the next week. Respectful bops. But we. A lot of bopping. Bopped him into the next week. Respectful bops. But we're talking cream pie. Oh, okay.

Obviously, everybody's thinking the wrong cream pie. I just. We're talking about the cream pie. We're talking about a pie. What cream pie are you guys thinking of? I saw AQ's eyes get real big. What are you talking about? What are you talking about, AQ?

That's what Zito just said in my ear. Like, oh, they're talking about a different cream pie. What? What's a different one? What do you mean? I wasn't talking about that.Q? That's what Zito just said in my ear. Like, oh, they're talking about a different cream pie. What? What's a different one? What do you mean? I wasn't talking about that. AJ, get on the internet. AJ is on the internet.

Yeah. AJ's on the internet too much. Yeah, he's on the cream pie internet. If the cream pie we're talking about. What's everybody going on? We're talking about blue. Taking the pies that have cream in them. That's what I was talking about.

But now that you guys mentioned what he thought they were talking about. Listen, I have never received a whipped cream pie. Whoa. A lot of rock clips. People getting sucked up. What is your problem? Everybody needs to relax.

I'm talking about the fucking pie to the face thing. Yeah, the funny thing. Yes. I don't know if you can creep out of the face. I think it has to be. Once again, cowboy, you're on the wrong subject. We're talking about what Blue did to 4,000 people on his TikTok. I believe it was the most watched TikTok of the NFL this year as well.

Blue. That would hurt the shit out of my nose. Blue just assaulting people? Do those people know? He's really surprising them. Yeah, they have no idea. They're walking, looking somewhere else, and then all of a sudden, the camera that they see, boom, Blue gets them without them knowing.

It's sweet. Yeah, there is a chance Blue gets bopped in the face. I assume he cream-pied Victor the Viking at some point. That guy's been awful quiet, huh? Man, Bruce buried him in the ground. That's why. Dude, he had a hell of a year. Yeah, great year.

Fraud. Guess what? No one gives a fuck if you don't win the Super Bowl. Well, everybody, you seemingly have had the best week of the Patriots season. That's probably a mile. This is the best year of the Patriots probably or actually, Patriots probably since they beat the Rams in the Super Bowl. It was the best week we've had. How come?

Because the Bills lose. Bills lose, and they win the Super Bowl every year before we even start playing football. Bill O'Brien's back, so Mac Jones is probably going to have the best year of his career, and he's still on a rookie deal. And, yeah, life is good. He legitimately, it's almost like it's back to week one of the NFL season when he thought the Patriots were going to win the Super Bowl. Exactly, it is.

He came in here after this past weekend, after the Bills lose to the Bengals at home and get dominated at home, 27-10, and I think that was a surprise to everybody. I did not expect the ripple effects to go all the way up to New England. Him skipping in here Monday morning, what an incredible dude. We just won a Superboost. I thought that's what it was. Like, we won a Superboost.

Hell yeah. We sit and he's like, the Bills are never going to win a Super Bowl. Nope. And I'm like, oh my God. Yeah. You are so rude. And he's like, they don't win it this year. What year are they going to win it?

They had everything set up for him this year. Honestly. With DeMar Hamlin back in the building, maybe is what Conor said. Well. Maybe. You have to just consider what people say. Maybe back in the building, maybe is what Conor said. Well, you have to just consider what people say. Maybe back in the building or whatever. And then obviously DeMar has tweeted a picture of himself at his own –

With the caption. And he says, clone. Okay. So he says that obviously because the internet was doing that whole thing. It was hard to see him in the middle of the snow. But nonetheless, the Patriots fans are pumped for this week. And I find that interesting. Stephon Diggs, he and Eli Apple have been, I mean,

Eli Apple has been dunking on Stephon Diggs on the internet. AJ, have you seen this? Eli Apple up there with like CJ, GJ, I think. Oh, yeah. And like shit talking and not being scared at all to be a savage on the internet, AJ. I mean, Eli Apple's been doing this since he, I mean, I think since college. Like he went to Ohio State and he's a very polarizing figure in the NFL. When you win, man, you're on a team that's in the AFC Championship game.

I mean, he's not scared to go after some people, I guess. I love Lou Anarumo sitting in his office trying to figure out what he's going to do against Kansas City Chiefs, and somebody going, have you seen what Eli Apple has tweeted? And Lou goes, no, what? And he goes, seeing Cancun on three with the Demar Harden. Lou goes,

Jesus, what else? Oh, he also recommended that Josh Allen and Stefan Diggs go ahead and get couples therapy. And Lou's like, Eli! Eli! Jesus! Anything else? Yeah, he's calling him statue, basically. Saying Stefan Diggs is fed up with Josh Allen.

He's Torello and Jenner. Jeez. Lou's like, what are you? It's going off. So do we get him like, does he win an award for like best shit talk on Twitter? Or what do we do? Well, Zach is going to tell him like,

hey, maybe just two of the four need to go. Right. All four or whatever. And Lou's going like we're not holding eli back though right no he was he was smoking in their fucking locker room right giving interviews yeah yeah yeah lou's like perfect let's just keep it going the guy's balling this dude don't care about nothing aj this guy's awesome look at that i missed my man i missed that era where you get to smoke cigars in the locker room that'd have been nice yeah

buffalo could not have been thrilled with this it didn't look like he regularly smoke cigars in the locker room. That would have been nice. Yeah, Buffalo could not have been thrilled with this. It didn't look like he regularly smoked cigars, but hey, I give him credit. You sure? No, he did not. He had to do it, though. In the moment, he felt obligated. That's good, though. If you're an active player, too, you need to act like, oh, this is my first time ever.

You know Eli? AJ? I do not, actually. I believe he played with CJGJ, too, in New Orleans. So that was just a shit-talking secondary. I would like to let Eli Apple know that some people are saying he crossed the line with the Cancun on three, the heart thing.

I'm going to say, who makes the line? Exactly. You know what I mean? Who makes the line? And Eli, like, you're fucking entertaining, bud. Nobody does this anymore. Especially with PR people, agents, teams, the amount of people that are probably suggesting against doing this type of thing.

And Eli going, no, I've got to get these off. I've got to get these off. Nah, it's too good. Did you see what I said? Yeah, that's what we're calling about. Well, hold on. Hold the phone. Keep looking.

Couples therapy, bang. Boom. Sounded. Oh, he's kind of like, turn around. Boom. All right. Oh, this guy's always going to be posing, huh? Boom.

Okay. What were you going to say? You shouldn't have sent off those four tweets. Jesus. All right. I'm sorry about that. All right. You going to take him down?

Absolutely. No way. No way. I'll see you later. That's the conversation that's happening with Eli, though. We need to know that that's taking place. And Eli's like, sorry, just had to. Yeah.

Sorry. Still good. You don't want to let players be themselves, right? Yep. Think Bill Belichick's going to pick him up? Eli Apple? Yeah, you think he likes that? That kind of stuff?

Maybe. We have breaking news. Out of the music industry, Justin Bieber has sold his entire music rights to Blackstone-backed fund. Look into Blackstone, whose money is in Blackstone. They own everything. They have all the money. They have trillions of dollars.

He knows his song's capital. The deal with an expected value of around $200 million covers more than 290 titles released before the end of 2021 so we saw justin timberlake do this i don't know if it was the same one for like 100 million yeah justin bieber's now doing it for 200 million dollars we assume that that should be worth way more but i believe justin bieber can now re-record all of those songs in this exact moment and own them i think this is a way to get out of a label. I think.

Is it? I think. I'm not 100% sure. But I think that's why Justin Timberlake did it. I assume. I don't know how much money. So you just make a remix and you own it again? Yeah, so Taylor Swift did this whenever Justin Bieber's guy.

What was his name? Scooter Braun. Scooter Braun bought all of her rights. She was not happy about it. That was very public. She wanted to buy it back. She has the money to do it. And I think Taylor Swift is a dog.

Like, she works her ass off. Like, I am a fan of everything she's accomplished. She re-recorded. Yeah, her version. Her version of the songs. So she had, she owned them now. Now, granted, all the streams have to go back up to the billions that are the other ones. But that was kind of like done.

So I think that's why the timing is always such a big deal for this. Nonetheless, we've got to get to a break. Congrats to Justin Bieber, we assume. Way to go, Biebs. Seems like you got a lot of money. Nice little payday. He has some bangers. He does.

Yeah, sorry. But every new song he comes up with, though. What's that, dude? Every new song that he comes out with is all him though i think so yeah yeah i think he's still so young yeah that's nice yeah i think that's what how that works i think that's why that deal happens i think that's why we were so alarmed by the timberlake deal like that's it conan o'brien just sold his shit for 150 million yeah justin justin no offense to conan o'brien You're bringing back So many hits

You got less than Conan O'Brien I think it's like a freedom thing That would make sense. The boss did it. Bruce Springsteen did it for like $500 million. That makes sense Fuck it, because my live albums are what I'm going to make a bunch of money off of So fuck you guys. Speaking of live albums Beatles bought Michael Jackson a long time ago, didn't they?

All of his stuff. Yeah, tough move now. Why? We all saw the HBO. Artist art. I mean, still selling. They're still making money off it. Joining us now is another man who's fantastic. Another man who is great.

A man who might be in the middle of watching Wales right now. That's where we left him one week ago. He's a four-time NFL MVP. And his future is certainly being chatted about everywhere. This morning I woke up, and he was getting traded. We have no idea if he wants to play football again. Ladies and gentlemen, the host of Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, Aaron Rodgers. Yeah! How are you, pal?

Howdy, boys. I'm sad to report no Wales since we last talked. What? Where are they? What happened? They left? I don't know if they've come all the way down from Alaska yet, but I haven't seen them yet. So just for the last week, you've had binoculars out on a dry ocean, no whales having sex out there? What have you been up to, man? Just chilling?

Well, they have sex up in Alaska, actually. chilling well they they have sex up in alaska actually then they come down to warmer water to to have the babies um at least that's my understanding uh again not a uh ocean uh expert uh but that's my understanding so they're not ready to have babies yet coming to spring a little bit later in the spring and that was your plan for the whole week. You were going to whale watch out the backyard there, maybe take some time to yourself. What have you been up to? And have you heard the latest rumors about you, Aaron?

Yeah, you have them in the spring, right? The babies in the spring. Not in the summer when there's some get-togethers that would be nice to come to, right? That's right. That's the rules there. Look at AJ. All his kids are born in the wintertime, right? All that off-season love-making with laura at a baby aj father of 10 yeah i mean that's they got to figure it out they get it mapped out i mean

that's how it's supposed to be what have you been up to the last week chilling man i've been i've been doing a whole lot of nothing have you seen the movie uh office space you know peters they talked about what you're, you know, if you had a million dollars, what would you do? Nothing. It's not about me and my dream of doing nothing, you know. Have I been missing work? I can't say I've really been missing work, Bob. So that's what you've been doing? I've been, yeah, I've been enjoying myself i've seen

seeing a few friends um but yeah just just relaxing there's some things coming up on the horizon i'm looking forward to but i needed some time to just kind of decompress and relax a little bit what do you have on the horizon what's what's out there you're looking forward to i'm gonna play in the pebble beach pro am okay okay let's go yeah i need i need a little competition in my life so i'm excited about that um so excited to get out to uh to pebble haven't played there in a few years there was a couple coveted years and they had some you know they they didn't have any amateurs i believe one year and then there was some sort of uh vax restriction i believe believe, another year possibly.

But either way, I'm back in it and excited. You were immunized. I mean, you should have been able to get out there and hit the old white ball around. But obviously, that's conversation for another day, like a couple years ago. And it was a conversation that was had very loudly. You said you need a little competition. Is this part of your process of deciding what you want to do in the future or no? Well, listen, we've had, you know other than last year we lost in division

round but we had a couple runs to the nfc championship so you're still playing this time it's fun you know you you know you know like the eagles and the niners and bangles and the chiefs there's only four teams still playing all 28 are you know we're watching so you're still in the building still still playing and still excited about what's in front of you when you're watching so you're still in the building still still playing and still excited about what's in front of you when you're on the other side of that and you're not doing that i think you miss uh that uh that competition and anything that can fill that void if you got a big competition hole in your body it's nice to try and do that for me i love playing golf and i usually play you know i played in tahoe the last 18 years and love that event. It's a phenomenal event.

Got invited to play in the event in Florida that Marty Fish, shout out Marty, just ran away from the field down in the course in Florida. I haven't played in that, and maybe when I'm done playing, I might play in that. But I do enjoy the Pebble Beach Pro-Am. It used to be the week after the Super Bowl, so it was pretty easy, unless you were really, really tired from the season to go play. But they had to move it up because of the scheduling

and missed a couple years, but excited to be back out there. There's a lot of great fans from NorCal, and it's fun to watch the pros. They're incredible. Stay out of the way and hopefully get a couple good shots. Will you stop by Nance? Doesn't Nance have a house on? Is that his house that's right on? No.

Is that? He's got a couple, I think. He's got a couple, I think. He's got a couple, I think. Him and Romo, you know, they're only growing with every single coming week there. I hope you do well in the Pebble Beach Pro-Am. We asked you, I don't know if it was season one or season two of Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, and we run it as a commercial. Why do you love football, you know?

And you just talked about basically your competition uh trait needs to be scratched like you enjoy competing you enjoy giving your all and knowing that your all might not be good enough it's a video that we run it's a beautiful like i think depiction of how you feel about football and sport and there you just said you want to play in pebble beach because you need the competition a little bit there's a rumor coming out about you this morning and i don't know if you know this or not, because it sounds like you've been doing nothing in your own world out there, and you've been waiting on the whales to come give birth. But pretty much everybody in sports media

has you being traded this upcoming year. So they're just assuming that you're going to want to come back and play football. Now, a lot of our conversation last week was thrown away, strictly, nobody listened to it. They did hear the clip, though, where you said you still think you could play at an MVP level. When I asked you physically, do you think you could still play? And that came shortly after you said, if you're not playing to win it all, why are you playing it all? So have you already come to the decision that you're playing football again next year? Is that already something that's taken place? Because the decision has been made

that you're getting traded by sports media as of this morning. And I feel like there's another decision that has to be made before any of that can take place. Where are you in that stance? And are you in the middle of that process still? Usually you would think they would wait until maybe the off week

between the championship weeks and the zero bowl to drum up some storylines. Because there is two great games this Sunday and obviously four really deserving teams to be playing um i have you know some people that love to track that stuff so i've been made aware of it good you just pointed aj no he's got the next question yeah he's got the next yeah he's got the next question. I'll finish this. Yeah. But listen, there's heroes and villains in sports and entertainment. And I think because of my stance on COVID and maybe some other things, I've been cast as the villain, especially the last few years. And so that is the way that, you know, a lot of things I said are often interpreted.

I'm not upset about that. I don't feel like a victim in any way. I don't have that mentality. That's fine. I've actually embraced that role a little bit. If that's how you want to cast me. I did see there were some comments that I'm only playing for MVPs and stuff like that. Didn't maybe quite see the entire clip of some of the stuff that I said.

I don't care about that stuff. It doesn't offend me. This culture, this woke culture wants to be offended by everything. You just go online and find something you don't agree with. I'm offended. How could you possibly say that? I don't really care. I don't care who it's coming from or who said it.

They're entitled to their opinion. It might not be right. And every now and then you've got to get on here and say, hey, you know, you just found some bullshit. Like, that's just not true. Like, let's just tone it back a little bit. You might need to do that. Most of the time, you just kind of gloss over it.

Who cares? It doesn't really matter. Because it honestly doesn't matter. It doesn't affect my day-to-day. It doesn't interrupt my whale-watching time. It doesn't interrupt me at all during the day. I don't think, you know, agonize about, like, oh, you know, Gronk said, you know, I shouldn't be worrying about MVPs.

I'm like, I know Gronk. I love Gronk. He's awesome. He's fun energy to be around. Like, but what do they do? You know, if you take the right sound bite from the right thing, you know, and it's a station that may or may not have in the past been brought to you by Pfizer, then they've got to make sure that their villain gets cast in the correct light.

And whether or not they're sponsored by Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson & Johnson, whatever it might be, when you go up against some of those powers that be, you put yourself in the crosshairs, they're going to paint you in a certain way. And that's what the media did to me a couple years ago. That's fine. That's their prerogative. That's what they wanted to do. But I think I responded pretty good in those times. And I'm glad I went through that. And anything that comes after that, small potatoes, bro. Okay. So, obviously, I'm happy you cleared the air on that whole thing.

We agree. You said a lot about wanting to win. And physically, you were able to still play at an MVP level, you thought. And that was the question that I posed. So, also, we are in the blame game. Also, let me say, Patty, Patty, let me say this. I don't mean to cut you off because I love you. No. And you're so good at this.

But I just, I was reminded when you said that of just one thing. Everybody wants to win MVP. Everybody who plays the game wants to be MVP. Like, yeah, you want to win a championship, 100%. Like, you want to go down in history on a championship football team. But everybody wants to win MVP too, any sport. You want to be recognized as the best of the best. Anyone who says they don't is lying or noncompetitive.

And either one of those I don't want to be a part of. So everybody who plays wants to be the best, wants to be recognized. And then if you don't win it, you always say the right thing. Oh, it's more important to win championships, you know. But, of course, everybody wants to win it. You know, there's been a lot of guys who played the game. They haven't got an MVP vote. Like, and you can rest on the championships you won,

but you still want to be recognized as the best. Aaron, I'd like to let you know, though, there's only like 10 of you guys every single year that have an actual chance to win that thing. So I think what you're saying is if you're in the conversation to potentially win an MVP or an award, you would like to win that award. Because I want to let you know, I played a good eight years in that league, NFL. I mean, there was one year I thought maybe I had an MVP for a chance.

No shot. No shot of me winning. AJ, you had a couple opportunities there. You were racking up. But what you're saying is the people that are in that conversation, it's a real thing. Yeah, it's a quarterback award. You know, it's more of a quarterback award.

Obviously, Barry Sanders, you know, shared it with Favre in 98, and AP won it in 2012. But it's few and far between. It's mostly the best quarterback who's had the best year. I totally understand it. That to be said, there's also other awards. You know, Pro Bowl has kind of become more of a joke in years, in more recent years because you have third and fourth alternates

going to the Pro Bowl multiple years, and that kind of hasn't, you know, that kind of takes some shine off. But All-Pro for sure. All-Pro is definitely, especially for, you know, for lin of takes some shine out but all pro for sure all pro is definitely especially for you know for linemen for yourself for punters for receivers it seems like all pro usually gets it right who the best of the best for the most part well obviously they don't matter and when you act like they matter people get mad at you for acting like they matter but then whenever they're voting on hall of fame or legacies or how you remembered all those things

are brought up literally. Bam. What do you mean? This guy not good. He won this many All-Pros, this many MVs. I was like, well, I thought those titles didn't matter. Well, they do matter whenever you're remembered for the rest of it. It's a fascinating thing.

And you answered that in a much different part of the conversation than about that whole thing. Now back to the rest of that whole part of that whole thing. It's already been decided you're getting traded by sports media.fter Peter King has talked about it both those guys very dialed in I don't think with your side of the entire thing but certainly dialed in with teams everywhere have you got to a point where you even know if you want to play football still or is that still something that like you're going through the whole process because Tom Brady was asked by Jim Gray and he said uh Jim if I knew what the fuck I wanted to do I would have already done it it's not easy to make that decision I

think you've had to battle it every single year here for the last couple years Tom has obviously had to battle it the last couple years that whole part of your thing is just getting tossed to the side whenever we're assuming you're getting traded are you still in the middle of that process or is that being completed and you told somebody and and they told Chef D and Peter and everybody. First of all, kudos to you for talking through the coffee machine. It was just cleaning itself before turning off. Oh, shout out to the future. Having a cleaning car.

Yeah, I mean, that is awesome. That was a gift. Coffee. That was awesome. That was a gift. Listen, I think, again, I think any time you make a decision, you have to try and take the emotion out of it. And there's emotions with the end of season, with the end of runs with certain teams, with the end of specific teammates who might be moving on or end of contract. specific teammates who might be moving on or end of contract.

And obviously, you know, the way that the season ends, you know, on the field is also emotional. So I think it's always important to take time and get away from it. If there was a timetable where I was told I got to make up my mind in two weeks, then I would have came to a decision. It would have been much more difficult for sure. But I think, you know, Tom's been playing a long, long time. He deserves the right to take as much time as he need. I've been playing a little bit less time, I think five or six years. I still think that, you know, should warrant, you know, the ability to take some time to make this decision and to weigh all the options. I don't think you can wake up on January 24th and say,

all right, I'm ready to, you know, go run this thing back. You know, I think even when you're in the midst of a career, in the middle of a career, there's always, you know, moments where you're like, man, I just, I need a couple more months, you know, not to figure out if you want to play or not, but just like before that mindset kicks in, we're like, oh man, I'm really going to go do this again in April and this thing. I just think you need time to kind of decompress. At least I do. Maybe other people are different.

But I need time to decompress. I mean, you totally let yourself go like A.J. did when he retired. But, you know, take a little bit of time and just kind of let the offseason start to sink in. And then at some point make that decision. But, yeah, you know, all the other, you know, ideas about, you know, trade and whatnot, that's all conjecture until I even decide what I want to do moving forward for myself. Got it.

Have you ever, when you're sitting there in your bed or watching whales, trying to fill this big gaping competitive hole you have in your body, have you ever envisioned yourself in another uniform playing for another team? Has that ever crossed your mind? Is it blue too with your eyes? I mean, Greeny would really like the Jets to happen. He may give you his bed if you go to New York. That's kind of strange.

You could take his penthouse. I mean, I'm sure he has like the 28th floor of the whole thing. Because you said bed. That's what I mean, I'm sure he has like the 28th floor of the whole thing. Because you said bed. That's what I mean. Greeny's very excited. He's excited for the possibility. You're saying he'd Airbnb it. You're saying he'd Airbnb it for a great rate. He can have it. I'll move out. I'll go to the Motel 6,

he said. That's what Greeny... And Colts thinking the same thing. A lot of houses around here. You know what I mean? A lot of houses. There's a lot of other places, too, that are certainly feeling that exact same way, including some Packers fans, but you get it. Great question, AJ. Yeah, thanks for clarifying that, AJ.

I appreciate that. And actually, I lay in my bed. Usually I don't sit in my bed. You're talking about me sitting in my bed. I like to lay down in my bed. I'm not sure what you do. I think you have one of those water beds still. Second-generation water bed. I'm not sure what you do. I think you have one of those waterbeds still. Second generation

waterbed. Second generation. I'm not trying to avoid the question, but how kind of strange waterbeds were. That's a weird invention. They had a run, though. Whenever I was a kid, I remember my parents thinking about maybe one day

getting a waterbed. It was dreams. Dreams and aspirations were waterbed life. It was like driving a DeLorean and sleeping in a waterbed. That was like tip top, right? It was those two things. Uh, listen, uh, I have never been a free agent, um, which is pretty wild. I've never gotten to the end of my contract so to even think about being another uniform never really crossed my mind just because i was uh i got a second contract in my fourth out of 50 years five years um and then each successive contract was with at least a year left on the deal so there was never a time you're thinking like oh i might be another uniform and

i just never thought that way you know even when jordan was drafted i thought I might be another uniform. And I just never thought that way. You know, even when Jordan was drafted, I thought that might be a possibility for sure. I might not finish in Green Bay. Then I won two COVID MVPs and it, you know, obviously seemed a lot less likely. But you never know. I mean, anytime there's a situation where change is possible, what's the old adage, you knowage that people want to say? Oh, the grass isn't always greener on the other side. And I always say, the grass is green where you water it. And I think that's the most important thing to remember. Change is a part of this business.

It's a part of life. And I think being open to it and embracing whatever that change looks like is an important part of coming to peace with whatever decision lies ahead of you. And I think that's the most important kind of peace I want to get to is mentally feeling good about where I'm at. If I want to hang it up and do that, having the peace to do that. If I want to keep going, understanding all possibilities that are involved, which is not too dissimilar to this season. We were in a big rut, and I was thinking a lot of us were older guys. You know, if we lose another game, we could be out of this thing.

They could be playing the young guys, and it could be kick these guys on down the road. And, again, you know, in a victim culture, you know, that might stimulate to trigger people to be like, oh, man, like, you know, nobody cares about me anymore, blah, blah, blah. Look what they're doing to me and all this shit. It's like I don't operate that way. I came to a peace about it and understood this is a business that's been great to me. It's an incredible profession. It's a tough business, though.

It's tough on everybody. And there's stretches where you're on top of the world and stretches where they're kicking you when you're down. And I think to find peace in both of those extremes is an important part of being able to navigate this thing with a clear mind. And I don't think it's a bad thing. People don't like talking about this kind of shit, right? It's taboo to talk about some of these ideas.

But to be open to the possibility, if I want to keep playing, that it might be somewhere else. I understand that. I understand they might want to move on and go younger at a number of different positions. That's a part of it. Again, when I think about that thought, because important to understand that, to have some peace with that, because there is a lot that's out of your control. It's not with any malice. It's not with any animosity. It's with complete gratitude for an incredible organization that's done a ton for me. I've been there 18 years. I have lifelong friends in that organization. I have lifelong memories. I've made some of my closest friends in my life because I was drafted by the Green Bay Packers and they paid me multiple contracts and had amazing success and met some just really special, special people.

So why would I have any animosity toward that? And on the flip side, hopefully there wouldn't be any animosity if that was a decision at some point because I have nothing but love for the fans and the amazing people I've met over the years at different events and out at Fresh Time at the grocery store or at Barnes & Noble picking up some books or whatever it might be. It's a beautiful town. So, you know, I think there's been a lot of fun dreaming about retiring as a Packer

because there's something really special about that. But if the competitive hole still needs to be satiated and it's time to move on, then, you know, i hope everybody would uh would look at that with a lot of gratitude and not any uh resentment or even on the flip side you know yeah let's fucking get rid of this old guy like it's you know it's time to time to move on hope there's some gratitude on on both sides if that happens but again uh that doesn't that doesn't uh open you know the door for any really conjecture, honestly, on my side. And I'm not saying that to be cryptic.

I've got to figure out what I want to do, and then we'll see where all the parties are at and what kind of transpires after that. So that was an incredible answer, and we appreciate you giving it. And I think it's the right perspective at this stage of everything with where the Packers are, with where you are. and whenever you said that if I was to return to the Packers it's like a two-way street is kind of how you gave your answer a week ago and everybody was like oh here we go again this is like the third year in a row where you're talking about if the

Packers would like this if the Packers would like this and there's a lot of people that are just like the Packers definitely would want Aaron Rodgers to be their quarterback if Aaron Rodgers is going to play football again but you saying that to us about it being a two-way street me as a dumbass for sure but who has listened to you talk a lot you say things because something happens not like you're just making shit up was there something said like hey the Packers said we need to take some time to figure out what we want to do too so while you're figuring out what you want to do we're going to figure out what we want to do as well and is that what led you to believe like oh they might be on the verge of moving on and with Jordan with where he is and I'm sure you're very fucking happy for Jordan Love as well Amanda you've shared a quarterback

room with here since he came into the league did that happen in the convo with Gunz Gunz or is it just you feeling out the lay of the land I wouldn wouldn't say that happened in the conversation, no. I don't think that would be a proper representation of it. I think it's more just living in the reality of what is. And what is, is they drafted my replacement. And if I didn't win two COVID MVPs, this conversation probably would have happened earlier. But in a year where I'm not going to win MVP,

it allows for all the different conjecture um is jordan ready is it time to move on uh the packers have had this uh interesting um view on personnel from conjecture from outside the building that it's better to move on a year before a guy is done than a year after? And is that the mindset for them deep down? Now, as an organization, they're obviously not going to say any of that. Why would you? There's not a whole lot to be won. And often, unfortunately in times, as was mentioned by Mark Murphy last year,

in a situation where there doesn't need to be sides, there can be sides, there can be sides that are drawn. Like there's not sides here. It's not me against the Packers. You know, it never was me against the Packers. It was a strong desire to be a part of some meaningful change in an organization moving forward. And I feel like we, you know, because of some of the conversations that we had, there was some good movement on that. And I'm proud of some of the things that seemed to change. And I think they're important things long after I'm done playing that are going to be important for the organization to continue to embrace. And I think that's the beauty in the relationship that we've cultivated is some great conversation and some real honest and direct conversation.

That being said, I'm open to all honest and direct conversation. And if they felt like it was in the best interest of the team to move forward, so be it. You know, that doesn't, again, that doesn't, that wouldn't offend me. That wouldn't, you know, make me feel like a victim. I wouldn't have any animosity towards the team. I love the team. I love the organization. I love the city. I love the region. You know, organization. I love the city. I love the region. You know, I'm a minority owner in the Bucs. Like, I'm going to be a part of the region long after I'm done playing. Like, I have a lot of love for what's going on in Green Bay.

And I'd love to finish there. I would. And I might have finished there. You know, who knows? But, you know, when I talk about my future, I don't talk in any cryptic terms. I'm pretty direct about how I feel, and I am taking time on my decision, and I am not egomaniacal in a sense to think that I should be able to play wherever I want as long as I want. There's two sides to this.

No, no, I heard you were an egomaniac. Yeah No, no, I heard you were an egomaniac. I heard you were an egomaniac. That's right. I thought that I was told. Shout out, Gumby. I was told you were an egomaniac. So it's more of you getting a read and a grasp of the reality of the situation that the Packers are in, that you're in with Jordan, with everything. That's kind of why you feel the way you feel, let alone if you want to play football still. That's number one is if I want to play, 100%. And if I want to go through the grind again.

And then number two is, that's why I said it was mutual on both sides. It's, you know, what does the team look like with me? What are the proposed, you know, direction of different players that they're thinking about bringing in? How do I fit in that? And what are the prospects moving forward? I think that's a part of it, you know, because you want to win a championship, right? You want to be a part of a team that can win a championship.

And every team is going to say in the beginning of the season, we can win it. But we know every single year there's about, you know, a handful of teams that have a legit chance. And the four left are all four that I would have said before the season, you know, these four got a chance to win it. You know, I would have put us and some other teams in there too, which didn't come to fruition. But you want to win, and every team is going to say they want to win. But it's, you know, it's the type of team you're putting together.

And I don't need, you know, I don't need all my guys to be there for that. I don't, you know, I'm not standing on the table for these seven guys need to be a part of that, you know, to come back. It's just the kind of the feel of the team. The tone in which the roster is being built. Like, what is the tone of this roster? Are we trying to go right now? Or is this like, let's get some, let's take another kind of a build here almost. Not a rebuild, but a build almost.

Like that type of thing, right? Yeah. Is it a reload or is it a rebuild? That's a good question. Or two low down. Can't do it. AQ has a question for you, Mr. Rogers. This has been an incredible conversation, by the way.

AQ has one for you, pal. Aaron, it's great to talk with you again. I am pumped for this moment. Atta baby, AQ! Hey, you mentioned a little bit about the grind. You've mentioned that the last couple weeks. First part of this question. I got a three-parter here. All right. First part of this question is, do you have a firm date when you start your off-season preparation? Second question is, has that changed over the course of your career? Similar question. Third part of that is, do you still enjoy every part of the process that you go through from the end of the season to the end of the following season?

And where has that gone? That a baby. Hey. Wow. That a baby. Hey. That a baby. That a baby. Hey, we're proud of Q hey baby take a big

big laugh hey we're proud of him holy shit holy fuck dude whoa see you guys hey

see you next week AQ good for you man take a dump okay yeah that's great questions there buddy um I don't have a firm date

it's just more of a feel with my body I didn't have a whole lot. It's just more of a feel with my body. I didn't have a whole lot of lingering things besides my thumb. And thumb doesn't really affect a lot of the workout. So I would say I like to take a good month from doing like really jumping back into some really strenuous stuff. The second part is a really interesting thing. You know, does that change? It definitely does change. I think when you're younger, you're like right back into it.

It's not really a whole lot of break. You're like, all right, I just got back. Let me get right back into my workouts and get back into it. I think as you get older, you learn that your body needs a little bit of time to heal up. And you focus on maybe different areas earlier in the off season uh then as you get going you kind of strip it down and build it back up um you know start working on maybe some of the smaller muscles and then get back into kind of the full body uh stuff that uh that you really like doing uh the last is a great question and i think one that's really really important to me

and that's about do you enjoy the whole process and and it's unequivocally yes and i think if it wasn't a full fuck yes then i think that's your answer oh so you're back as i just heard sounds like you're back still right you know duty sounds like it listen uh we do what we do because you love the grind and it's also a big commitment it's especially as you're older and you got other things going on and other interests and other things pulling at you and i don't have you know 10 kids like aj but there are uh you know a lot of other things that they take up uh time and energy and focus and when you commit to that it's a it's a it's a full-time commitment.

And I think that's the beauty in it. I want to say a little something about process versus performance, which has always been really important to me. And I think it's one of the most important things for leaders of businesses, organizations, and even for competitive individuals, is you have to be process-driven, not performance-driven. And I think in our business and in life often, we focus on some of the wrong things. Where your perspective goes, your reality follows. And the way you view the world, the lens you view it from, will become your reality. And if it's a performance-based, you know, rose-colored glasses or even, you know,

whatever the opposite of that is, if you're just looking at wins and losses and performance, you're going to actually ride a roller coaster of things always need to be tweaked. And I think a better mindset that actually is akin to a growth mindset is a process-based mindset.

And that means you come up with a process that works for you. It's not just Monday through Sunday of the preparation, but it's the off-season process as well. Like what puts me in the best mindset first? What allows me to emotionally be the most doubt-interconnected? What allows me spiritually to be completely present with my job, with my teammates, and physically allows me to show up in the shape that allows me to play at my best. And I think it's a process that doesn't get altered and ride a wave of emotions based on a performance, both positive or negative.

And that's why we say in our business all the time, you know this, like winning kind of covers up a lot of things. And just because you're winning or having great performances doesn't mean the process is a little bit jacked up. And on the flip side, conversely, just because you're not having the performance you want on the field doesn't mean your process sucks. And in a win-now business,

what have you done for me lately business i think that's why the owners met and talked about all the millions and millions of dollars of paying out to former coaches that maybe we're looking at the performance stuff too much and not in the process if you have a process that works and you know it works and you have people who can vouch for it and show growth then maybe you need to adjust some of the players in the in some of those process systems or adjust some of the players in some of those process systems or adjust some of the leaders to make sure everybody's pulling in the same direction. Because if you strictly focus on the performance, you might have some good stretches,

but a great process is going to win out over the long haul. And I always say if it's good enough in week one, it's got to be good enough in week 18. And it's a full-time job to play in the NFL. But you've got to find a process that works for you. And when you do, you stick to it. And even in the up years and even in the down years, minor tweaks you can make. But when you make wholesale changes, obviously you have more than just an issue with what's going on. You have kind of a perspective shift that needs to happen.

Yeah, you need to trust the process too, and you can trust the process if you start seeing some good too. So I think you do have to have some sort of success, but you can't just judge strictly off the results. I've hit a couple shanks that have gone, you know, 65 yards. Best punts I've had in my career, mostly the ones that just got great bounces. Are we judging the result or are we judging the punt itself? Those are two different aspects of how hard I want to be on myself. You, talking about your process was incredible there.

Thank you for letting us in on that, dude, honestly. I appreciate it. Now, you did say you're going to play again. You pretty much said that you love the whole thing. Right. And you're going to miss the whole thing in a competitive hole and everything like that. So I appreciate that.

No, listen, I didn't say that. No, no, no, no. Of course. No, it's a huge commitment. I answer the questions you guys ask me. You guys ask some great questions. AQ. And AQ, that was a great question.

I think it's something that we need to talk about in our business, about process. Now, Pat, you bring up a great point. You've got to win, of course. But if you're winning with a bad process, at some point it's going to rear its ugly head. It's going to get in the way. And I believe, on the flip side, I really do believe, if you have, right, and a growth mindset, you're going to win at some point. You're going to win. It's just it's going to happen if you do it the right way.

How do you know if it's the right way? How do you know you have the right process? Well, that's a good point. You know, I believe it's a certain type of mentality and leadership. And I think that there's been some great things if you piece together you know a lot of things that we've had over the years from different leaders we've had different head coaches there's been a lot of great things in that that are part of a great process I think accountability is right near the top and when you have accountability to each other you can have honest conversations with each other and there's not sensitivity in the room and you allow for, you know, people to

hold each other accountable, to be honest with each other, to have expectations of professionalism. I think that's a good part of the process. You got to find a way to raise up leaders on both sides of the football and on teams and i think the player-led teams are the best teams and um you know part of that process is is cultivating that leadership is creating opportunities for that leadership it's allowing those guys to uh to have a platform to speak um and then not everybody wants to speak with some of our best leaders have been just purely lead by example guys you know the Julius Peppers of the world the way Kenny Clark goes about his business you know the way that Jordy was never a huge vocal leader but you know phenomenal phenomenal

guys who led by example rancher and I think that's part of the process but you have to have a structure that allows for that in in every jordy great rancher too softball player like top five in the country i mean he could still obviously run a go if you needed him but jordy nelson what a fucking he could run a he could run a corner post though right now if he had to oh yeah he'd be open how hilarious would you be and obviously you'd be judged very harshly for this, what if you went to the Packers and said, I want to come back and I want fucking Jordy Nelson. Hell yeah. I want Jordy Nelson on the roster.

Well, you can't stop there, though. You got to bring James Jones back as well. Bring him on in. This is what we're thinking. You know Throwback Thursday? Every day. Boba Franks. What about Coon? Eddie Lacey. Tom Cra Franks. Yep. What about Kuhn?

Eddie Lacy. Tom Crabtree. Yep. Can Kuhn put it back on, you think? Tom Kuhn. Yeah. Definitely. Yeah, he could.

What about this guy? Chad Clifton. Teagelang. Yeah. AJ. Kevin Harris. BJ Raj. Spencer Havner.

Is that your demands? Is he going to figure out whether or not you want to play football again? Sounds like you're going to. Just, AJ's been saying that this whole time, as has everybody. But you've got your own process. Take your demands. So you got to figure out whether or not you want to play football again. Sounds like you're going to. Just AJ's been saying that this whole time, as has everybody. But you got your own process. Take your time. Okay? Hey, thanks, bud.

Thank you. Knock on Jim Gray. No offense. But if you had this list of demands, it would be hysterical. Now, let's just hypothetical here. It's hypothetical. Can we hypothetical? Yeah.

Yeah, it's a fun game really fun 60 million dollars a lot of fucking money right that's what everybody's talking about is what you're owed or whatever does that come into any of this conversation and there's no way you can say yes to that and be realistic but is the contract like something that you have to think about in this whole thing oh shoot i mean it's a lot of fucking money it's a lot it's a lot of money yeah it's a lot of money i don't think there'd be a scenario where i'd come back and that would be the number i think it would definitely definitely things would have to shift got it i mean we're seeing what we just did oh Oh, yeah. I'm peeling the onion here. For sure. Why do you think that?

Well, I just don't think it's, you know, I think there's a lot of teams because of COVID that are strapped. And you're seeing this in a lot of different contracts. They're pushing more money out in deals. They're creating, you know, certain kind of void years to allow for an easier cap hit. So, you know, there would have to be some adjustments for sure. Yeah, because there's this cash over cap thing that everybody's doing. You know, Andrew Brandt kind of broke it down to us, as both of you gentlemen know, where you're able to have voided years that aren't real years on the contract, but they're being reported as how long the actual contract is.

But they're just fake years that are kind of dispersing the signing bonus, which is coming up front. So instead of it being like a four-year deal, it's a seven-year deal. But the last three years aren't even a real deal, but it adds three more years to divvy up the signing bonus so the salary cap isn't as big. For those that are just brain, that's why we allude to the salary cap being fake, because it's not fake. It certainly exists, but there's a lot ofude to the salary cap being fake because it's not fake. It certainly exists, but there's a lot of ways to kind of dabble around it, and a lot of teams have done as such with deals with quarterbacks, more specifically, because of how large they are.

That's awesome to hear you say that. I think a lot of people are going to be excited about that. Ty, who has been coughing for 15 minutes, has a question for you there. I took one way too big sip of water and went down the wrong pipe. I've really been battling over here. I thought he was going to die. I thought you were trying to get into your little hole. Well, Jesus Christ.

I mean, I damn near did cough to death the last 15 minutes. It fucking sucked. I still can't breathe, really. No, seriously, though, Aaron, my opinion doesn't matter, but obviously you're too good to retire I mean it's just as simple as that that's really all there is is to say and I don't care what anyone else says like it really would be heartbreaking if you don't finish your career with the Packers but at the same time like I still want to watch you play so if you don't end up

playing for the Packers it is what it is when you look at the games this weekend, you've talked about these four teams. I assume when you've played as long as you have, you've had a pretty bad high ankle sprain. And I think back to when Sue intentionally stepped on your foot at that game at Lambeau. Cap, yeah. Yeah, Cap, right. When you look at Mahomes this weekend, is it more difficult playing on a bad high ankle sprain like that or playing with a broken thumb like you had to all year? I mean, every injury is different.

It's hard to comment about severity. That looked like a really bad one. When you get fallen on like that, I haven't heard this or seen this. Again, I haven't seen a whole lot of commentary on it. It looked like there was maybe some knee issues as well, just based on the fall. Hopefully that's not the case. It looked like maybe the situation where maybe there's some MCL issues. Again, that's purely conjecture.

I love watching Pat play. And he, you know, looked like he was pretty upset to even go in the locker room and get that thing x-rayed, which anybody would be. I will say, you know, I put myself in that situation. I guess I'm a little older and a little more curmudgeon-y, but I would say, oh, that ain't going until halftime, you know what I mean? I think he – I give him credit for seeding that battle, like allowing that battle to – okay, I will go check that out.

He was outnumbered, wasn't he? He was outnumbered. Yeah, he was. He was up against it. Maybe Andy just said, get your ass in there. You're not going back in. If that was the case, I totally understand it. But there was no doubt in my mind he was going to come back

just because I just know what a competitor he is. And anybody talking about, oh, he may not play this week, you're talking about Pat Mahomes. Like, Pat's going to play. Like, he's going to play. I think he's going to play really well, I would assume. I haven't had a bad, thankfully, a bad high ankle sprain since college. I had a bad one against USC that lingered for a while but uh

um but yeah you know i think anytime you're dealing with obviously ankle is probably a little less uh detrimental than knee you know like so that's good but he might have both going on uh he he doesn't need to scramble like i think that's what people but he might have both going on. He doesn't need to scramble. I think that's what people maybe forget sometimes with Pat. Pat is a great quarterback in the pocket, as well as all the other things that he does. And that's what I think has allowed him to take these jumps and possibly win another MVP this year,

because he's become an excellent pocket passer. And then on top of that, then, oh, you can move on the pocket, you can throw on the run, right, left, under a guy, over a guy, look off, all those different things that he's been doing. But the key, I think, to really lasting power in the league, especially as a guy who used to run around, similar to him, you got to be excellent in the pocket. So all that to say, Pat doesn't need to run around to be effective now it might behoove him to maybe do some pistol stuff like we did when my calf was really bad in 14 um you know just to because i saw a couple of him trying to take handoffs and i know it's just it looked rough

you know but maybe move them back to the or uh to the pistol if they want to do you know some of that stuff or just keep them in the gun the whole time they have have so much offense. I'm sure they can do that with them. But I look forward to watching Pat play. It's always fun watching. Joe has obviously had a great season, and he's playing really good. A lot of weapons. I loved what Zach was doing with their plan watching that game. They had a great plan, and Joe played really well.

Hey, Joe seems to be a fun now obviously patrick mahomes great insight there because you two play similarly similarly is that a word oh yeah well me about 10 years ago maybe yeah yeah but you you get it similar styles you know and i assume whenever as he ages it'll be very similar to everything that you have how about joey burrow hey this guy's a fucking stone cold killer dude he did you see that warm-up shot of him doing the spin and then like literally dancing while warming up in the middle of the fuck like he just has this demeanor about him that just feels like in the biggest moments he's always going to show up have you

met him what are your thoughts on him i mean mean, I talked to him briefly after we played him. What, last year did we play him or the year before? Yeah, last year. Yeah, last year. Thank you, Ty. So I've never met him outside of that. I like watching him play. I like watching him compete.

I think he obviously is a real good player, had a great season. I think a lot of people were wondering if he got hurt. His first year, right, he hurt his ACLs. Dude, he was getting hit so hard every play. And then he was running and not really sliding. I remember I

did say, hey man, you're way too good not to slide more often. I think that might have been one of the things I said to him. But I like watching him play. I think his demeanor is great. He's real even keel. I think that's all the great ones have the fire of competition, but real even keel, not riding the wave of emotion. So I really, really enjoy watching Joe play. And, you know, this is between Joe and Pat and Josh. They got some good competition over the years that we're going to be able to watch in the AFC. Yeah, yeah.

And you. Yeah, yeah. Of course. Hey, do you have a relationship with Zach Wilson? Was it Rappaport who said you texted him when he was, like, in the facility during the offseason on a Friday morning? You said, what are you doing?

Get the hell out of there, man. Spend some time away from the facility are you guys tight well it wasn't a Friday morning it was a Friday night and he was there late and I said what are you doing I said get out of the facility I said get out of there clear your head be a kid go to dinner you know relax a little bit um so i met him before the draft and then they came and uh practiced against us in the preseason had you know that some of those uh inter-squad practices where they come in a couple days early and i think he's super talented. I think a little humility is good for all of us at various times in our careers. And I think the first year, Lily had no players. They came and practiced against us, and I was like,

defense can play, and the offense needs some more players. I think you said that to us, actually. A couple years, probably. That's what you said. A couple years. And then they added a young receiver right from Ohio State, is it? Garrett Wilson. And got a tight end from the Bengals, I believe. Uzama.

Uzama. And a young... Brees Hall. Brees Hall is getting healthy again. They picked their running back, right? Who was pretty damn good last year So it's just For him it's just going to be You know humility Lean into that and then just consistently

Working on the fundamentals I think he's so talented But the best in the business Can make all the plays outside the pocket Can move around but fundamentally Inside the pocket Especially the two guys on the FC side, you've got guys who can really play in the pocket

and then also extend and make plays outside the pocket. But inside the pocket, that's where you beat teams. Outside the pocket is where you kind of embarrass teams and maybe Pat's department. And also Joe had some big first down runs he had and extended plays, you know, the touchdown to Chase. It looked like a total blown coverage on the play, but he looked right, looked right, stepped up, moved to the left,

threw a nice little ball over the top, and that's what you've got to do. But you've got to first win inside the pocket. So I hope that, you know, that whoever they decide to go with at coordinator can come in and work with him and kind of break down a lot of the fundamentals for him and get him playing on time because I think he's talented enough to have a long career in the league. Hell, yeah. A lot of moxie.

Oh, yeah. A lot of moxie, which is a great word. You also have a lot of moxie and seemingly a lot of time for us every single Tuesday. We can't thank you enough for joining us, dude. What do you got the rest of the day? You going to wait on those whales still or maybe golf, get ready for Pebble Beach? What do we got going on? I need to play some golf.

I haven't tested a club since August, so I probably should play a couple rounds, although I'm usually better when I don't play. But I got some you know, I got, got some whale watching to do. I got some, you know, some adulting to do some emails and texts to respond to. And then who knows, you know, the day is wide open. That's why, you know, I'd rather be playing right now for sure. But if I'm not, I get to spend an hour with you guys. That's a hell of a day. Hey, you're going to watch the games this weekend

obviously from there? Yeah, I am definitely. I'm a fan. I'm a football fan. And I love watching good quarterback play. I enjoy Jalen a lot. I think he's a really great kid. I'm happy for him.

He's playing. And we talked last week about Purdy. I mean, pretty incredible story. Two great kid. I'm happy for him. He's playing. We talked last week about Purdy. Pretty incredible story. Two great defenses. You mentioned to see obviously you'd think the advantage goes to Philly playing at home, but you never know. 49ers are so dynamic on defense and obviously

incredible weapons. That'll be a fun one. Really looking forward to the rematch from last year's AFC championship though with those two squads. Extremely well coached. Cincinnati, you know, had a little red ass with all the tickets being sold to the neutral site last week that I'm sure they kind of channeled in some extra motivation.

And obviously Joey's playing great and can never count Pat out. So it should be a great weekend, like you said. Millions and millions and millions of people watching. We're the best sport on the planet, and I'll be one of those people watching. Hey, that's the next generation, right, of quarterbacks? That's what they're saying. Do you agree with that? What, those three guys?

You ready to hand over the title? That's what they're saying. This is the next generation of the entire NFL is what everybody's saying. You know, like this is kind of a showcase of it this year because I think this is the first time, I forget, you or Tom, I forget how many years. A lot of years. 2009, I believe. First time in a long time where it hasn't had, you know, you or Tom in it basically

still happening. You know, obviously a lot of success out of both those programs into the playoffs, late into the playoffs when all eyes are on the NFL. But now it's kind of the younger guys getting a chance to shine here these last couple weeks. It's an interesting time here. Interesting time. Say that a little bit louder so Tommy can hear,

and then we'll both come back next year. All right. You old fucks ain't got it anymore. All right. We can't thank you enough. We'll see you next week, hopefully, pal. And one last thing before we go. Who is number 10 on your high school team?

Oh, my God. That was unbelievable. Is this Jordy Nelson? Who was this guy? Thomas Wilson, man. one last thing before we go who is number 10 on your high school team oh my god freak is this jordy nelson who was this guy thomas wilson man shout out to thomas he was unguardable in high school bro we watched the highlights look at this dude dog soccer player man i think that was a that might have been the only only year he played and then he ended up going to wow you guys got a lot of clips there. That's pretty impressive. Hey, we put this – we've got –

There we go right there. That's a good one. That was the Almond Bowl. And that last clip, you just got a second. That was us against Chico High. The night before, we were supposed to play. Now this is – yeah, I don't know who that's against. What is that, Paradise maybe?

That's a guy. Tommy Willey. This dude's unbelievable. He changes to ever go to the league? Is that Julian Edelman? I mean, who the fuck is that? Is Tom Wilson the hockey player? Anyways, what were you going to say about the Almond Bowl?

Something happened. Well, the night before, we were supposed to play at Chico State, right? It's a big rivalry game that we have. And look at Thomas. Tommy Wilson again. Bro, he's unbarnable. He only played one year of football this dude. Couldn't stop him, man.

The best I never was. Where are you getting these tapes from? This is incredible. So we ran this. We Googled it. There's David Jackson. David Jackson with a touchdown there. Who else we got?

Oh, that was a bad throw. There's David again. Another touchdown. There's Peter Grapp. He came in late in the season. Casey Helmick. Ryan Gilbranson. Yep.

Oh, there we go. We got Derek Lawrence. Shout out DL with the touchdown. Hell yeah, DL. Here's he got the almond bowl. There he is. There he is. Freak of nature.

See ya. We were wondering if you had always been accurate. So Zito Googled some Aaron Rodgers high school footage. And this came up. This is the all-star game right here that we played in. There's me right there. Really big all-star game. A lot of fans. That's an all-star game?

Great throw. That guy didn't care. How big are those jerks? 23 had been there before, bro. Here we go. Here's a touchdown catch for me. My only touchdown in my career of catching. Oh! Smooth!

Imagine if you didn't put the ball up. Probably didn't score. No chance. Here's a long touchdown pass. Oh. Okay. That was Sean Botterford right there. He played in the NFL. That was Botterford? Here's a throw to Garrett Cross. He also played in the NFL. He's from Chico High.

Damn. Jeez. Butte, Montana. Plays a pipeline up here. Not Montana, but Montana. Oh, classic. Butte, Montana. And that actually, that wasn't me right there.

That wasn't, there's me right there. Oh, somebody snuck in. Look at you. It's stolen valor from one of the guys. Touchdown. Wow. Is that you? Who's that? Who's that?

Who's won? That was Mark Onabokun. Of course. Doc. Onabokun's a freak. Oh, dude. CFL Hall of Famer. Dude.

We're just watching the highlights. We did this last week. Yeah. There's some big ones. Hey, this was our rival here. I threw six touchdowns this game. Is that good? I don't know.

You tell me. That's Bobby Bernal right there. He went to Idaho and played. Got like 90 balls when he was there. Great man. Bob. All right. Well, we appreciate you running through that.

I'm sure the boys appreciate it. Hey, thanks for that trip down memory line. It was awesome, man. I appreciate that. Hell yeah. And you have always been accurate. That's what we landed upon, and I feel like we just witnessed it again. So he's back next year.

Yes. Hey, remember. Remember those days, too. Whenever you're going through your entire whale-watching process on whether or not you want to play again next year. The world thanks you. We appreciate the hell out of you. Enjoy your week.

See you next week, huh? See you next week. Hell yeah. Wow. Let's go! Aaron Rodgers, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah! You know what else? Wow. Let's go. Aaron Rodgers, ladies and gentlemen. You know what else we appreciate the hell out of?

What? The fact that we get smarter every single week whenever there's a round man that joins us. He lives in Arizona, but he flies to Indianapolis weekly so that we can go in the trenches with A.Q. Shipley. Let's go. A little bit more energy. Playoff football. Oh, yeah. Everything gets turned up a little bit more in the playoffs. Just like these boys.

Down three out of five offensive linemen. What? Big shout-out to Frank Pollock, offensive line coach, Cincinnati Bengals. Gave a hell of a speech to the boys after the game. You guys see that? Oh, yeah. Frankie! Proud of the boys.

That was fun. This guy, getting his first start, basically, since he's been drafted out of Clemson. The car man. Jackson Carman does a fantastic job. We got an open side tackle pull coming over this way. But what he's going to do is going to sell pass, club the guy up the field. That's going to open the hole. And then we get a big gaping hole right here.

And then here, we get a double team working back. We got him with a man block here. And then he's going to pull and open this thing. Let's watch this thing split. There we go. We got everybody moving. There's the baby. Car man.

Ace block going there. Jackson Carman with the little club up the field. We get the tackle pulling on the backside. And look who he's pulling on, a DB. Oh, no. What a little man. How awesome is that? Boom.

How awesome is that? Hey, just real quick, don't want to throw anybody under the bus, and I don't think this would be doing that, but certainly diminishing an accomplishment. Snowy, slick conditions. Good for the offensive line, especially a brand-new offensive line that's trying to figure it out in the biggest stage. Very good offensive line.

But, again, like we've talked about this. It affects everybody, but it affects the defensive line more because these guys got to be a little bit more weary when they're sticking those spikes in the ground, trying to get off the ball. They got to make sure the feet are in the ground. So it does affect the D line probably a little more than the O line. These boys showed up, though, in a big way. Joe Mixon was flying.

We got to talk about it just real quick, one more time, just real quick. So check out the scheme. We got a up though in a big way. Joe Mixon was flying. We got to talk about it just real quick. One more time. Just real quick. So check out the scheme. We got a backer in the box. We got a backer in the box. This motion they know this pre-snap but DB is going to slide in the box. This whole thing is pre-thought out. That's all part of game planning which means coaching fucking matters. What? No.

Says who? Strategy. They're not playing. Says who? A little game plan. Boom. Because seven has to come in because old cuzzy has to go out. Exactly. They're bumping with the motion. And you know this because they're playing zone coverage. When they play zone, they bump. If that was man coverage,

seven would run with them. The backers would stay in the box. AJ, they're controlling them like a puppeteer right now, Bob. Yeah, they're dictating the game to the defense. That's the toughest thing when you feel like an offense is playing with you. So did they get the trips over there, AQ? That's exactly what they did, yep. I bet this was Lou Anarumo's idea.

He's got a lot of people over there. A lot of people over there. Lou Anarumo probably a part of this. Yeah, he probably told Coach Taylor. Lou Anarumo on the show tomorrow. What? Are you serious? Hey.

Dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun option that we can throw this pitch toss, which is exactly what they're going to do. What you're probably not noticing here is Lane Johnson's over here at left tackle. Wait a minute. He plays right tackle. Left tackle moves out to left tight end. Unbalanced. Whoa. Look at this fucking right tackle. That's a wide receiver.

That's Watkins. How about that? And then here's what we're going to do. Here's the two main things. This little swoop up to capture 54. We're going to get him working inside. Wait until you guys fucking see the block by Goddard out in space. This is unbelievable.

And the fake sneak. A little start the motion quick. AJ, who's saying that a wide receiver is in the tackle position? That's somebody, right? I mean, everybody's. Yeah, they're going to be talking about it. Remember I told you our call would have been close left, unbalanced right, over right, move. You've got to get all that out. Hey, real quick,

real quick, let's do it. I just broke out of the huddle. I'm lined up. I'm the wide receiver. Do it. Well, you see Quezer and we look around. Everyone starts panicking, freaking out. D-line's pointing at him. Too slow. Ball got snagged. Close left, unbalanced right, over right, move. Hurt! Hurt! Too late. Yeah, it took too long. It's weird though, close left. Unbalance right over right. Move. Hey, hey. There, there. Too late.

Yeah, it took too long. It's weird, though, AQ. Yeah, it's awesome. And then, I'm telling you, where do you guys see this block by Goddard out in space? It is unbelievable. Check this thing. Oh!

Bruce! Ha, ha, ha! Or anyone in a face mask. That guy grabbed me by the face mask. I was supposed to end up on top of him. I mean, how awesome is that? Incredible. They set this up all year.

It's right here. Hey, get on the line fast. Boom. Everybody breaks. Now we don't get a chance to notice the little unbalance right there. Or if they do, it's late, and then we already got fucking angles. Everybody's got angles front side. What's the angle?

What's the angle? It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. Paul Walter Hauser could have ran that ball. He could have. He took a hell of a ball the other week. I like this one. By the way, what a game.

What a game he had. Unbelievable. Every time this guy had the ball in his hands, big-time runs were happening. Big, gaping holes. What we've got to notice here, this is awesome. This is the hardest thing in football whenever you're running the ball, when you get a run twist. Look at this.

We get him up the field. That's an N. Here's a T. him up the field. That's an N. Here's a T. N up the field. N-T's. Little twist behind. This guy's got to sell out to block him. He has to sell out.

But watch his ability to keep his hips underneath him and pass this run twist off, which allows the seal, create the wall there. Big dog comes up here. Seal's there. You get Milato running through looking for somebody to hit. My God. The ball has moved bodies move bodies huh how good is that i mean they're so good up front it's unbelievable is my lot of supposed to look outside first or is he looking back towards they're expecting somebody to be here the whole thing when you pull is when you come around that

corner you want to try and stay as tight as you can to the down blocks because you want to be able to kick inside out. So the hole should come between wall and kick out, and there's where your hole should be. A lot of times what happens, whenever they come, this guy could come underneath him and make that play. So you're always looking to stay tight so you can kick out. So you get the ass cheeks here with the wall, and then off the wall, you get another ass cheek on the kick out. That's how it should be. So he's doing the right thing looking outside in. There's just nobody there to block.

This is unbelievable. Wow. So now the head just goes on a swivel. Pretty good, this Eagles team, huh? Oh, man, I cannot wait to watch that. If you love line play, this is the game you want to watch. Philly versus San Fran is going to be awesome to watch. If I know what's next. You's San Francisco. Who's in the backfield?

Wait, that's Debo Samuel. That's on McCaffrey. Listen, I love everything that they do. By the way, I thought he did a magnificent job calling plays this week. One thing we will talk about a lot, and I've talked about it a lot this year, as a coordinator, if you stick with the run game, it will get better as the game goes on. These guys were running into a brick wall early. Dallas had an unbelievable game plan. They were getting one, two, minus one, whatever. And then some hit later. Now they get five. Now they get six.

They break one for the touchdown. Now you get eight. You get ten. You get the big one by Mitchell later. And all of a sudden, you've got a five-yard average carry. Check this out. This is awesome shit. We are going to get the ball to Debo.

But here's what's going to be awesome. If you look at this, this play's going right. Kittle, in my opinion, the best blocking tight end. I said it last week. Hell, yeah. Oh, he's got to get to him. Check out the action here. We're going to go jab step inside to influence him to get him up the field because we're getting a puller coming this way. Then he's

going to go back outside to bluff him. And then from there, get back inside and get back to 55. This is fucking unbelievable. What Kittle's able to do here. Jeez. Jeez, a lot of steps. Unbelievable. Now check this thing out. Boom, bang, bang. Now we get the counter tray, right? We've talked about this play a lot this year. Guard, kick out. Big Trent coming around.

He's going to block him. He's the second four, first guy off the ball. He goes to number two off the ball. Now wait, look at McGlinchey. Look at McGlinchey. Hope he brought syrup. Oh, yeah, because the pancake. Nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom.

I mean, if you love watching offensive line play, this is as well-blocked of a play as you can get. Finish. Great job. Oh, let me also talk about this. Because when you get gap schemes, if you can see me from behind here, gap scheme on a deuce block is going to go here, here, and then they start working vertical, working this way. from behind here. Gap scheme on a deuce block is going to go here, here,

and then they start working vertical, working this way. Because this team is known and their identity is zone schemes, instead of them doing a normal deuce, they tell these guys to make it look like it's the backside of zone. So he's just going to go, which then makes the block easy on him.

Watch him. They don't even touch him until Hankins has already passed the hash. Wow. Creates the hole. It's a bluff. It's a bluff. They think it's zone away. Genius.

It's a feint. It's a bluff. This is a fake by Kyle Shanahan. We're going to make Cuzz think that this is zone the other way because their natural read is going to be offensive lineman cutting in front of my face. I need to get that way. I need to get front side. Exactly. So you're taking them out of the play because of their rules. They have to do that. They have to because all we do is zone, zone, zone, zone, zone. So then when we run the gap, we make it look the

same as zone and boom. So good football players are going to lose to this. So it's almost like they get better as the years go on because they're playing to better teams. So they're taking advantage of good football players. Yeah, absolutely. Is that what it is, AJ? Yeah, I mean, it's crazy that Shanahan continues over and over to have things like this. It's awesome to watch.

You've watched both O-lines all season. Who has the advantage between Philly and the 49ers? Yeah, and watch give an answer. One time, Al. So here is the answer. Philadelphia is the better offensive line. The better offensive line, what they put, the people, everything about them is the better offensive line. I think the scheme is better on San Fran, so it becomes a wash.

From a run game standpoint. From a run game standpoint. Yeah, okay. So what's the answer then, Al? He did answer. Philly's the better O-line across the board. Even with Lane Johnson being banged up? Yeah, for sure.

Because, listen, Kelsey's a stud. Both guards are studs. Both tackles are studs. I mean, they have five very good players up front. Well, you heard what Siri only. His dad's out there, IUP. O-line, D-line. That's it.

Figure it out. Right, Howie? It's where the game's won. You know, his brother coaches WNJ. Yeah. Pittsburgh all over the place. All over. Legit. Let's go. It's all over the place. All over. President.

Legit. Let's go. It's all over the NFL. Pittsburgh's all over. They got the thumbprint all over the NFL. They do. The Italians from Pittsburgh. Yeah.

That's right. Have their footballs. And the Irish, hey. Let's not knock the Irish from Blum either. Yeah. Yeah. Me, I guess. Hell yeah. Absolutely.

Hell yeah. There's some other Irish guys. It's a massive team. Mike McCarthy. Sean Lee. Oh, yeah. Big Mike. Sean Lee.

Oh, Sean Lee. Connor Lee, too. He's a massive team. Mike McCarthy. Sean Lee. Oh, yeah. Sean Lee. Connor Lee, too. He's a big guy. That's right. Dan Marino. That's it. Very Italian. Fuck!

Joe Montana. Very Italian. Yeah. Brett Favre. Sirianni. Jim Kelly. Brett Favre is not from Pittsburgh. Kelly. Kelly, there's a...

There we go. Jim Kelly. Those Irish as they get. Here we go. Way to go, Nick. You're damn right. Let's go, Pittsburgh. Let's go, Pittsburgh. Let's go, Joe Namath.

Stand up, Ireland. Hollywood. How did he end up in Alabama, you think? Way back then. Good question. Out of Pittsburgh, he goes to Alabama? He's going to play for Bear Bryant. It's unbelievable.

That hat. That's crazy to think about, though. Oh, yeah. Beaver County, I think he was. Where was he? Joe Namath? Beaver Falls. Beaver Falls.

All the way to Bama? It's unbelievable. What a culture Falls. Beaver Falls. Yeah. All the way to Bama? It's unbelievable. What a culture shock. I couldn't even imagine. How about them meeting him? Yeah. Let alone, like, obviously him meeting them. Exactly.

At that time. Oh, God. What a different world. Yeah. Unreal. He had success. And he obviously is all the way back, baby. Mm-hmm.

Anyways, this is another Niners highlight. Rich Gannon. Oh, Richie. I didn't know he's a Pittsburgh guy. Mark Buehler. Greatest pump fake of all time. George Blanda. He's Irish. I'm not sure of that. George? Yeah, he is. I'm not sure.

I'm not sure. Johnny Unitas. Johnny, you? Pittsburgh? Hell yeah. Johnny Unitas? Hell yeah, dude. Yeah, sure. AQ Shipley? What are you saying? Yeah, sure. It's because you don't know. Johnny Unitas is Hell yeah, dude. Yeah, sure. Best quarterback. A.Q. Shipley. What are you saying?

Yeah, sure. It's because you don't know. Johnny Unites is from Baltimore, isn't he? He played in Baltimore. Don't be such a doof. I think he went to Towson, too. So? My wife went to school.

Just saying. Oh, big brains. Big brains. Johnny U. Great lacrosse school. Great lacrosse school. Johnny Unites is from Pittsburgh? I did not know.

I didn't know that either. Is that real? Is that real? Is that real? Everybody needs to start a little bit more respect. He's Italian. City of Pittsburgh. Good for him. Anyways, Shanahan, not from Pittsburgh, but he's got a good brain.

Hey, let's point something out since we always point this thing out. Hold up, hold up. We got to go back just a tad, just a tad, just a tad. Trent Williams, staring right at him, right? Yeah, tipping, tipping, tipping. Tipping plays. Think this is going to fucking matter? What do we think? Yeah. You think it's going to matter? Probably. Because they're running the counter plays. Think this is going to fucking matter? What do we think? Yeah.

You think it's going to matter? Probably. Because they're running the counter tray again. They're going to do the same exact thing. We're going to get the bluff right here. Watch it. It gets 90 just to hesitate. Get up the field. Lawrence gets up the field. Then we get the kick out. Banks is coming. Same thing here. We get the deuce. We get the deuce. McGlinchey, fucking monster in the run game. We love what he's doing. He's going to come get this hip.

Boom. Redirect. Get to the second level. Wait till you see this thing. This thing's going to be awesome. Here in the run game. We love what he's doing. He's going to come get this hip. Boom. Redirect. Get to the second level. Wait till you see this thing. This thing's going to be awesome. Here comes the counter tray. Boom. Look at him hitting the hip. That's how you get the movement.

Hits the hip. Now he climbs on that Van Der Esch. Big Trent's coming. There's the kick out there. Oh. I mean, he doesn't get touched. McGlinchey blocked three people. McGlinchey with the deuce. Look at the movement.

The movement down the goal line. One, two, three. That's very impressive. Bro, there's two yards they need to gain, and they do a deuce counter trade like a very sophisticated play. It's like this is why they can continue to run the ball in the red zone when there's not a lot of room, right? That's it.

Because they're not scared to do all this shit. Now, why doesn't everybody do this? I mean, they're just so good because, look, if you remember correctly when they ran it before, we had a tight end over here. We had a tight end over here. We had a tight end over here. Now they're running it to the open side using the bluff here and then getting the arc release to affect Mike on the backside.

That's how they're able to do it. They always have a fucking plan to attack somebody, and in this game, it was the two edge guys. Am I wrong in thinking that normally in this area here, everybody just fucking does this number normally? A lot of times, times yeah because nobody puts as much there's so many teams you're seeing you're seeing philly you're seeing san fran you're seeing a lot of the good ones who are coming up with all this creative stuff and short yardage and goal

line put time and emphasis so many people are like oh we're just gonna we're just gonna line up and we're gonna move people down here man you gotta beat the man in front of you yeah it's like all right i get it be nice if you could. Just make it a little easier. If we can make some of the leverage play here with fucking the best linemen in the game, Trent pulling. Boom. Boom.

Stonewall. So they're not saving this play. They're just doing the same play they've run before with a different look or running it to the different side. One's to the tight end side. One's to the open side. Yep. Same thing. A lot of the same stuff you get with the crack zone stuff that they've been doing inside

out where Kittle goes fly motion. Boom, boom. Now they're doing it to the tackle side yep same thing a lot of the same stuff you get with the crack zone stuff they've been doing inside out where kittle goes fly motion boom boom now they're doing it to the tackle side they're just they're just putting little ring okay so i have a question in the huddle are they calling this uh deuce weak counter tray are they saying that to the offensive line or is that just a part of they got both tight ends over here right so it'd be some like some form of firm firm would be the call it'd be some type of firm. Firm would be the call. It would be some type of firm. You get nasty or tight because he's in a tight split. And then they're calling, you know, this could be to the even side.

So 34, tackle and guard. And then the offensive line just know that's what their job is. That's their job. As soon as you hear it. As soon as you hear the gap scheme, it's, hey, how do we get to number two? When I say number two, we've got two linebacker spots. That's number one. First guy off the ball. Number one. Number two. So they know the

deuce is going to number two. We're leaving two for the pullers. End man on the line of scrimmage has the flat pull. Trent has the first guy off the ball. You see the people saying that the San Francisco 49ers are cheating and they're putting Yeah, I saw that. Seven guys. George Kittle on the line.

That's why 96 is wrong because they're cheating. It's rigged. So you agree? No, I don't agree. Anytime you sit there, you could say linemen are cheating. They're off the ball. You could sit there and say Terry McLaurin was on or off the ball. You could sit there and say, at the end of the day,

if you're back a little bit, you've got to let it ride. Or they don't. You're saying however they're calling it. It's however they're calling it. Got it. That sounds like you think they were cheating. Yeah.

So you're a big San Fran cheats. I don't. I don't one bit. But here's what I do love. What's that? The guy we talked about earlier. Who? Carmen.

Carmen Jackson getting out in space. First of all, check out Jamar Chase on the crack block on Shaq Loster. He's played a lot of football in this league for a long time. Boom. Look at that. Oh, Jamar. How good is that, right? That is not the big bump.

How good is that? That is not the big bump. Let's wait for the big bump. We're going to watch Edmonds, who's about to make a shit ton of money. Let's watch Jackson out in space. This is going to be awesome. Gets out in space. Gets his first start. Big-time playoff game against the Buffalo Bills.

Everybody rooting against him. We got the crack toss. He eyes them up. Target acquired. Oh, no, no. Oh, Jesus. Bad footing. Oh, no.

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Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh Geez. Beep, beep. How good was that? Get off the track. So this is his first real action?

First real action, really. I mean, he played a little bit when Jonah went down in the last game. But, again, he got thrown into the mix. Probably wasn't 100% prepared. This time, my man showed up. He played well. He played very well. I watched him.

His pass pro was great. Run game was great. How badly do they need Jonah Williams back? I think they're fine. I mean, this guy's comfortable now, and he played his ass off. I'd say he was a second-round pick, too. Second-round pick out of Clemson, yeah. Looks like a 10-year vet.

Looks like a 10-year vet, and he's finishing. He plays physical. I love it. You a trade for him, you say? Oh, somebody needs some help. That's a guy. That's a guy you might be wanting to go after and get. What team, you think?

Colts with Aaron Rodgers. Oh, okay. Yeah, that would be Aaron Rodgers' blindside. Welcome to the Indy, pal. Clay Nelson for car, man. I think people saw this play all over the Internet. Let's just Aaron Rodgers. Oh, okay. Yeah, that'll be Aaron Rodgers' blindside. Welcome to the Indy, pal. Clay Nelson for car, man. I think people saw this play all over the Internet. Let's just talk about it. Let's talk about the dynamics of it because here's the deal.

When you run a zone play like this, first of all, look, he gets his head to the outside. So many people, I used to get in trouble at times sometimes because you're so hard trying to get to that outside shoulder that you get there and you're soft with the inside arm. The entire block on a zone play comes from the inside arm. Watch Kelsey drive second step and his backside hand and just lift and explode. That's unbelievable. I mean, I've told Pat this. I've played against Justin Ellis a bunch of times.

This guy's 6'4", 365 pounds. Jesus. Big man. Kelsey, on a good day, is 27 280 whatever he is right and this is what leverage and strength and doing things the right way with good technique getting your backside hand up underneath and just drive that's unbelievable yeah bruce brown said just physics wise i don't know how jason kelsey is going to block Dexter Lawrence or any other D-lineman. Just purely off of physics is what Bruce Brown was saying. And then he came in and said that that was the worst thing he's ever said about football in the history.

Because Jason Kelsey seemingly had a great day. Yeah, that son of a bitch. Played his ass off. He's had an unbelievable year. I mean, some of the shit he did in this was unbelievable. All right. Well, we appreciate you for all season. Can't wait for your all-pro team.

We can't thank you enough, ladies and gentlemen, in Trenches AQ. Thank you. All right, to Aaron Rodgers, thank you for joining us today. AJ, you've done a great job. Before we get out of here, AQ, we need you to try to make some putts here. Come on out. For the good of the people. Come on out.

For the good of the people. Here we go. For the good of the people. Did you bring your own putter? Did you bring your own putter like Bruce? No, Bruce is a lefty. He did have his own putter. Made his first putt after missing 10 of them last Friday.

That is correct. Yeah, he stayed in here all Friday night, actually. A.Q. Shipley, and he got his reps in, which I appreciate him. He won some money for some people out there. That's good for the people. What's good for the goose? It's good for the gander. Hell yeah.

Speaking of, if A.Q. Shipley can go 2 of 5 after an incredible win at Trenches and an incredible question on Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, we'll give 15 people $500 who retweet this video, say something nice to somebody, and put their cash tag in the same reply so we can pay you officially on cash. Come on, Al. His first putt. One hash for one.

The game might have been figured out. I believe this thing, although it was a carnival, state fair-like putting green, there has been a spot marked on the putting green for a straight roll. Oh, it's on the other side. Wow. One day after Bruce knocks down the first putt, AQ goes two for two for 15 people

to win $500 on this Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, January 24th, 2023. AJ, thank you so much to everybody that allows us to do this every single day. We can't thank you enough. We'll see you tomorrow with a big one. Lou Anarumo is on show. A couple other special

guest surprises. Can't wait for that. AJ, have a great afternoon. Goodbye, everybody. You're the best. Thank you, boys. See ya.