The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 847 - First Night Of The Pro Bowl Games Recap, Shams Charania, Chairman Of The WM Phoenix Open Pat Williams, Peyton Manning, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: February 3, 2023

On today’s show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about last night’s Pro Bowl games and Derek Carr stealing the show and putting the rest of the league on notice that he still has some good footbal...l left in him, plus they discuss what the NFL can improve on in those games. They also discuss the alleged rumor that CBS tried to stage an “intervention” with Tony Romo before the start of this season in reference to his decline in the booth. Joining the progrum to break the massive news that Kyrie Irving has requested a trade from the Brooklyn Nets by the Feb. 9th trade deadline and where some possible landing spots could be is NBA Insider for Stadium and The Athletic, and FanDuel TV host, Shams Charania (1:33:20-1:44:39). Later, the newly appointed Chairman for the WM Phoenix Open, Pat Williams joins the show to invite Pat and AJ to participate in the Shot at Glory on the 16th hole at the Phoenix Open on Wednesday (1:55:07-2:00:07). Lastly, Hall of Famer, 2x Super Bowl Champion, Super Bowl MVP, 5X MVP, 10x All-Pro, 14x Pro Bowler, one of the greatest Quarterback’s of All-Time, Peyton Manning joins the show to chat about coaching in the Pro Bowl this year, what he likes about the event, the importance of the Pro Bowl and why it can’t go away, and more (2:02:23-2:07:54). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you Monday from Radio Row, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello beautiful people. Welcome to our humble abode, the FanDuel Thunderdome. On this feel-good Friday, February 3rd, 2023, the sports show starts now. Football! He's heading into its Pro Bowl weekend. Obviously, it's been a celebration all week out there in Sin City. Last night, there was a skills challenge that we'll be chatting about for years. Is this what the future of the Pro Bowl looks like? Will they make some adjustments, some changes? Or is this what we're in for for all the greatest players in the NFL?
Starting point is 00:00:32 It was a blast to watch. Some things I think they'll obviously have to change going forward for people to take it a little bit more serious. But all in all, a lot of good times are being had in Vegas. I'll be out there for Sunday calling the flag football games. There'll be three of them on Sunday on ABC, ESPN, ESPN+, Disney,
Starting point is 00:00:49 and like every channel they own, pretty much. We've got three seven-on-seven or flag football games. Can't wait for that alongside Kirk Herbstreet. Pete Davidson will be there without a microphone. Snoop Dogg will be there with a microphone. Peyton Manning, Eli Manning, all the boys will be there. Cannot wait to chit
Starting point is 00:01:09 chat on Sunday. Then we're live from Radio Row for Monday through Friday with guests lined up and packed to the gills. We can't wait to chat with everybody and celebrate the year that it has been, not only for us, but for the entire NFL, wrapping up with obviously the Super Bowl next Sunday between the Chiefs and the Eagles. It's a beautiful day to have an incredible feel-good Friday. The toxic tables here looking a little bit different today at Ty Schmidt and at PMI, man. How you doing, man?
Starting point is 00:01:38 I'm doing fantastic on this Jordan day. 2-3-23, I got my 23s on. I see you got yours on as well. I think Ty has some Jordan flip-flops on. I do. So I'm doing fantastic. It's a great day. It's great to have you. Boston Connor, I believe, caught the same thing that I had. Started to have it yesterday. Told him
Starting point is 00:01:56 he should go fucking home. Said, oh, it's just allergies. This morning he tried to come in feeling terrible. He went back home. He'll be good by next Monday, I do believe, when we're live in Arizona. Rest up, bud. We miss ya. Hey, we miss ya. Very well, dude. He'll be good by next Monday, I do believe, when we're live in Arizona. Rest up, bud. We miss you. Hey, we miss you.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Very well, dude. Same with you, Dirty. We miss you, pal. We'll see you on Monday in Arizona. One half of the hammer. Done. Cowboys 10 digits here. Tony, you're looking fantastic.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Thank you. I appreciate that. So are you. What a shirt that is. Yeah, the wife got this for me. You know, after the Super Bowl, we all take a break. It's our first break since the season started for a couple weeks. Now, obviously, I got a taste of that on Wednesday when I was at home battling the bug that came inside of me
Starting point is 00:02:30 and then exited through my butthole numerous times. I don't love those days off. But after the Super Bowl, after a season, we'll all enjoy it. Going to Hawaii with the wife. Wife got me a little. This is how you could dress up a tank top. Oh, yeah. And it's like a towel it
Starting point is 00:02:45 looks breathable it looks unbelievable it's warm it's like got a warm like a hug feel is it too much maybe no no no no no the wife got i appreciate that boys not at all a lot of people say that's part of the problem with this show though what do you mean yeah yeah everything's good everything's good everything's good everything is good this i think is good yeah no, I think, is good. Yeah. I'm a big fan. Maybe this is the new look going forward. Because I still got the tank top on underneath because it makes the neck feel good. It makes the arms feel good. But also dress it up or dress it down a little bit, especially when it's freezing cold outside.
Starting point is 00:03:21 This thing, although it's probably meant for Hawaii and warmer climates, felt great outside in the cold as fuck Indianapolis, Indiana. I bet. It kind of. Cannot wait to get to Arizona next week. Cold of 40, high of 70 every single day we're out there. Mornings and nights are going to be chilly. During the day should be fantastic. Right in the sweet spot. It kind of reminds me of the jacket you wore when you called Oregon State in Florida.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Oh, yeah, the gold one. Yeah. Yeah, that one was loud. That one I got at Target, I do believe. Really? Yeah, it was a little Vegas boys, me and Herbstre doing our thing. Target fucking delivers, dude. It does. Used to more little Vegas boys, me and Herbstre doing our thing. Target fucking delivers, dude. It does.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Used to more with Mossimo, but now he's in jail. Right. Him and the Chrisleys doing the same amount of time, I do believe. Yeah. Now, he was backdooring money to get his daughter, who's not educated or smart enough to get into school, into school. And the Chrisleys were obviously just fraudulent on everything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:02 In jail for 12 years. Oh, boy. That is so long. That's a long time. That's a lot of time. Can't fuck with the IRS 12 years. That is so long. That's a lot of time. Can't fuck with the IRS. They do not enjoy that. And they're adding IRS agents, I do believe. So it's not like you're going to be able to get around them going forward.
Starting point is 00:04:15 It's like the taxes, you're going to have to pay those. And if you don't, you're going to have to pay for those. That's exactly right. And that's how it all goes. If I read correctly, they're adding them for people who make a lot of money. So, like, if you don't make a lot of money, you're fine. Yeah, Tone, yeah. You should probably still pay your tax.
Starting point is 00:04:32 No, see, Tone, what you're doing here is I think what a lot of people do is they read one particular political party's take on something. And then they don't read the other political side's take on it. And then you're just getting kind of one end of the spectrum i do believe everybody's getting fucked is kind of how it always goes but it's always painted in different lights i do believe yeah and i i mean let's be honest here you know you you can think that you're going to be the person who kind of slips through the cracks try it try it don't pay your taxes see what happens and there's some that do i guess way at the top oh yeah and we would love to find out how they go about doing that but i think the amount of money you need to have to get to that level
Starting point is 00:05:12 is something that's pretty unattainable just had breaking news in my ear mossmo out of jail okay let's go back to making tank tops oh yeah let's stop trying to get our dumb daughter into school let's fucking start making tank tops again. That guy had my entire wardrobe on lock. I would travel to a city. I wouldn't pack anything. I would just go, hey, before we do anything, I got to stop by Target. I need to get underwear.
Starting point is 00:05:34 I need to get socks. I need a tank top, and I need to get shorts. Then I would just go home, take it off, pull it in a pile, put some clothes on, travel to a new city. Need to swing by Target. I'm stopping by Mossimo's tank top department. I'm getting shorts, getting socks, and then I'm off and running. Talking hundreds of Mossimo tank tops. I was probably a massive part of the problem when it came to the back door of his daughter to get into USC
Starting point is 00:05:57 because of how much money I put into old Mossimo's pockets. It is nice to hear that maybe he'll get back to the basics, back to the fundamentals, back to designing the most comfortable tank tops of all time. Speaking of all time, how about the greatest of all time behind the glass, the boys, Evan Foxey, Viva Lozito, Frankie Miraldo, who turned another year older this week.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Wow. Congrats. Happy birthday. Thanks, boys. Way too much has been made of the birthday, but thank you. I appreciate it. Not enough. I wasn't here, so if I was here, probably way too much. Yeah. AJ really hammered it home for you. Don appreciate it. Not enough. I wasn't here. So if I was here, probably way too much. AJ really hammered it home for you. Don't worry. Happy birthday, Nick. Happy birthday, Nick.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Thank you guys. It's very nice of you. Happy birthday, Nick. Thank you, Pat. That felt genuine. The rest felt fake. That one was probably the fakest one I've given you all week, so I'm happy. I've still got the fastball if I need it. Big shout-out to Bruce Branovich is over there.
Starting point is 00:06:48 JC the barber came through today to kind of trim us all up before we have to head off to Arizona. I'm gone for the next week. I don't love that. You mentioned it. I mean, figuring out what you're going to pack. This isn't just one, two days out of the house. You have to pack a lot of clothes when you're gone for a week.
Starting point is 00:07:03 A lot of different bullshit, too. Yeah. A little radio row. I've got a lot of clothes when you're gone for a week. A lot of different bullshit, too. Yeah. A little Radio Row. I've got a lot of meetings next week, too. Super Bowl is always a culmination of the entire year. Not just, obviously, on the field, but off the field as well. And the fact that we've been able to go to Radio Row the last, what, couple years?
Starting point is 00:07:19 Four years, I think. Yeah. Well, no COVID year, but. Last year, vastly different than every other year. Big time. So far. The FanDuel stage last year was just so big, so absurd. And we assume that we were a massive part of fans being banned from Radio Row going forward.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Probably. 100% our fault. Foxy reminded us just last night that we had a Wiz Khalifa concert last week. Oh, yeah. Our last year at Radio Row. This year is interesting because FanDuel has their own FanDuel TV lineup. They'll be live from the same stage that we'll be live from. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:51 And I believe Kay's show ends four minutes before our show is set to go live. Interesting. So I don't know how that is going to be awesome. Can I wait to see how it all pans out? Can I wait to see all the guests? Can I wait to hear the storylines that really become the story of the Super Bowl. For instance, is it going to be the Kelsey Bowl? Is that all we're going to talk about all week?
Starting point is 00:08:12 Is somebody going to retire next week? I don't know. Will somebody get traded next week, which is pretty likely to happen from what it sounds like from Rappaport. And let's dive into that a little bit. Last night, Derek Carr put on a show at the Pro Bowl. Yes, he did. He was slicing and dicing in his quarterback carnival in which you have to hit targets. Now, it is he, Trevor Lawrence, and Tyler Huntley on the AFC side.
Starting point is 00:08:34 On the NFC side, it's Kirk Cousins, Geno Smith, and Jared Goff of the Detroit Motor City Lions and everything like that. So Derek Carr put on an absolute clinic in his own practice facility, his old practice facility. Ryan Clark and the NFL Live crew were obviously the ones commentating and doing the interviews throughout this new fresh take on what the Pro Bowl and the Pro Bowl games are. And the interview that Derek Carr gave after the clinic that he put on with Ryan Clark really stole some eyes because Derek
Starting point is 00:09:06 Carr makes a joke about the situation he is currently very much in. No fire. Have you ever been that hot in Las Vegas? Not that hot. It's probably why I'm going somewhere else. What a line. Incredible line. I think we all know what it is. February 14th or 15th, he's owed over $40 million due to the contract that he's in. He said that he will not be changing What a line. Incredible line. I think we all know what it is. It's February 14th or 15th. He's owed over $40 million due to the contract that he's in. He said that he will not be changing that clause in his contract to help facilitate a trade or anything like that. So whoever's trading for him will have to pick up that $40 million. I do believe there's a chance they could cut him, and I think the Raiders will get it.
Starting point is 00:09:42 But no conversation has been about that. It comes a time when it comes time to move on and that's this time i have a no trade clause and there's no certain there's a certain date money is guaranteed or i'll be a free agent there have been convos between dave ziegler and my agent and me from nfl network introspective and reignited derrick carr on his future from cameron wolf interesting phrased uh tweet there from cameron, who normally does an incredible job. Derek Carr is on the move. Is he going to Tampa Bay after Tom Brady's retirement? Is he going to the Jets? Is he going to the Indianapolis Colts? And I'll tell you what, after what I saw last night, I know that this was something that we all mocked and ridiculed, including me. Let's not put a blue
Starting point is 00:10:22 jersey on Derek Carr just yet. looks like the old boy still got it looks like he's got a chip on his shoulder look like he's handling all this well what do you think about Derek Carr and his future Ty Schmidt well it's crazy how much can change in a week you know like Brady retires and now that you know Rap Sheet told us yesterday that if Rodgers or if the Packers want Rodgers back then it seems like he potentially is going to stay in Green Bay. That was breaking news. I agree. I agree. Rapport had no idea that was breaking news.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Right. Because the narrative has basically been that if the Packers decide to move on, then he's gone. Not, hey, if we want him back, he's 1,000% back. So I think a lot of Packers fans were like, okay, this is awesome. Kind of gives you more ammo to think that, hey, he'll be back in Green Bay next year. But if that happens, I mean, Derek Carr is the guy at the top of the free agent carousel. And all these teams who maybe were looking at Brady or Rodgers
Starting point is 00:11:15 and had their sights zeroed in on them, now all of a sudden Derek Carr kind of becomes the bell of the ball. And he's only 32 years old, which he's played for a long time, but it's not a 45-year-old Brady. It's not a 40-year-old Aaron Rodgers. Like, if he kind of is rebirthed, like, you could see him playing somewhere else and having a back half of his career where he plays eight more years. And he has Wolverine blood.
Starting point is 00:11:36 We saw him pop his hip flexor off of his body on a Thursday night and play the next Sunday. And that is literally the only negative thing we've ever said about Derek Carr whenever we basically said, hell of a run being a starter. Because I thought he ripped his groin. This was when Marcus Mariota, this was two years ago, I think, on Thursday Night Football. He was scrambling to the right or, yeah, to his right.
Starting point is 00:11:58 And then, like, obvious pop happens in his hip. He comes up lame, and then he's off the field. Marcus Mariota comes in, drops a dime to Darren Waller, up lame, and then he's off the field. Marcus Mariota comes in, drops a dime to Darren Waller, I believe, and then something else, and we just assumed, okay, this Derek Carr Raiders saga, because that's going to be at least three, four months to get surgery on that. He came back the next Sunday, has played ever since then. Won games we didn't expect him to win, has gone through a lot, obviously obviously with a team moving cities coaches being fired offensive coordinator situations he was on an mvp run one of those years and then uh in a game that
Starting point is 00:12:30 i was playing on in on christmas eve gets his entire knee snapped like a chicken wing there's a chance derrick carr especially after what he did last night and i think not just how he threw how he's handling it right not being a little baby back bitch about it yeah joking about it in the Raiders facility he showed up did his thing I think there's a chance that Derek Carr is going to be the bell of the ball all of a sudden in this whole traded quarterback situation even though his cap hit is rather large yeah and it kind of feels like with in regards to that if they cut him before that day I think it's only five million for the Raiders so it And a lot of people are saying the trade seems a lot less likely now because of that cap hit and because of the time frame here in the next two weeks.
Starting point is 00:13:11 But it kind of feels like a poor man's Matt Stafford situation to me, where obviously Stafford has all the arm talent, played well at times, obviously, in Detroit, but that organization's a dumpster fire. Was, was, was, was, was, was. Still haven't made the playoffs, but wise, wise, wise. People forget the Raiders are very, very similar. They haven't won a playoff game in over 20 years there, too. But then you look at it, like the entire NFC South could use them.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Literally every single team in the NFC South. The Jets, Titans, and Commanders potentially are the other ones that I was – Colts. Colts, too. Need a quarterback. I just figured they can't go down that road again. Oh, we can, pal. We have four rounds of interviews going on for the head coaching.
Starting point is 00:13:48 That's true. And I don't know if that's just delayed to maybe get a real interview with who they actually want, who's maybe still in the Super Bowl, and they've just been kind of passing the buck down the line or whatever. But they're going into a fourth round of interviews. And if you need that many times talking to somebody to find out if they're the person. Now, if that was how normal business was handled, I think we wouldn't be as alarmed. But this is not what normal business is like at all, especially with 12-hour interviews taking place. None of it makes sense.
Starting point is 00:14:15 What were you going to say, Mitt? Obviously close affiliation to the Raiders in the last couple years. Well, my dad does coach for the Raiders, and I do think that Derek Carr would be actually probably a pretty good fit in Indy or in any system that he can really run. He's proven that he can play, but he's just gone through too many systems. No one really knows what the problem is with him, really, it seems like. So I don't really know where he would go.
Starting point is 00:14:40 What I was going to ask you is. Does your dad like him? Does my dad like Derek Carr personally? Yes, as a man, yeah. Okay, that's a big deal um that is a big deal yeah yeah so he's liked around the building i know that uh that's a big deal right these are big news this is the complete opposite of what we've heard about some other quarterbacks exactly and not that those quarterbacks are available right now but just in general whenever you hear somebody's not liked around the building you have to start snooping around on what that means for the person as a human
Starting point is 00:15:05 and everything like that. Derek Carr, by all accounts, I think, including now we're hearing from your dad, well-liked by almost everybody. Yeah, so he's going to be a cult? I mean, let's not rule it out. You know what I mean? Especially if Aaron's allegedly going back to the Packers now, which is what Rappaport basically said.
Starting point is 00:15:22 Because Aaron Rodgers said there'd be no malice if they decided to move on and go into the next era. He understands this is the way the business is. This is the first conversation that we had with him about the whole process. And then Rappaport just lets it leak out of his mouth. The Packers will want Aaron back if Aaron can come back. And I'm like, that's breaking news. And Ian's like, is it?
Starting point is 00:15:44 I think it's out there. I don't know if it is. I'm like, that's breaking news. And Ian's like, is it? I don't know if it is. It's like, yeah, Ian. Yeah, because Schefter, you know, the person you were on a source off over the D'Amico Rhymes was in Denver before he was in Houston thing. He was saying like, hey, he's going to get traded. And we thought that was coming from Green Bay, who was acknowledging that it was time to move on to the Jordan Love era,
Starting point is 00:16:03 which is a difficult decision, tough decision. I mean, hindsight will prove whether or not it's the right decision or not. Obviously, that program, not the building, brand-new building. All the people making the decisions are brand-new people. But that team has gone through the Brett Favre to Aaron Rodgers saga. Now they're potentially, I think Aaron's trying to make it a lot easier if it's going to be the Aaron to Jordan Love thing. The Aaron one worked, had a lot of success.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Will the Jordan Love one work? Only time will be able to tell. But it sounds like Green Bay's going to want him back. That's big news. That is massive news, I think, that Ian just let slip out of his rap sheet mouth. Yeah, for sure. I mean, this is just kind of me thinking when you watch all this stuff happen i don't know if they 100 know if jordan loves the guy because i think if they did like there's going to be a laundry list of teams who would trade for rogers
Starting point is 00:16:55 like we ian mentioned that yesterday that's just common sense like there would be several teams who would want to trade for him so if they were a thousand percent committed and okay and like yep we've seen enough, Jordan Love is the next guy, then they would have traded Rodgers almost immediately or at least got that ball rolling, you would think. And now from the sounds of it, it's like, well, if he wants to come back, we want him back because we know that he gives us the best shot to win. A lot of people are thinking Josh McDaniels is Mitt's dad.
Starting point is 00:17:24 That is not Mitt's dad. Mitt's dad is a man that's about yay tall. He's special teams coordinator named Tom McMahon. He was my coach in the Indianapolis Colts organization, which is where I met this fuck whenever he was just a young little ball boy equipment manager. But Tom has been around the NFL a long time. Long time.
Starting point is 00:17:43 16 years. That's a long time. A lot of buildings. Okay, don't disrespect your dad. I think this year was his 17th year. Okay, congratulations, Tom. Just a Montana fuck through and through. We're talking hard-nosed rancher.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Yeah, didn't he used to herd wild horses? Yeah, they did have to break a couple horses. But, no, they ran a horse hunting and fishing expedition. So they would take people on, like, trips and stuff. In Montana. In Montana. But, yes, they would have to break wild horses. They wouldn't have to catch them.
Starting point is 00:18:18 But, like, they'd break them. Yeah, as a kid, he was like, I don't know enough about your family. Your dad has a lot of brothers and sisters, right? One of 16, yeah. Yeah, welcome. Jesus Christ. This is a working family. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Like, I don't want to say creating kids to be workers. Need ranch hands. Yeah, that is where his dad came from. Dad was riding horses when he was like six, seven, eight years old. Yeah, he fell off. When he was like four, he fell off a horse into a crick, actually broke his skull. The horse went, got his dad and actually saved my dad's life. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:52 And now he has a metal steel thing in his head that you can actually ruin reception and knock on. And he still does. Thank you, horse. Yeah. Shout out to that horse. I appreciate that horse for what Tom did for my life. And obviously, without that horse, we don't have Mitt. And, geez, what would you do?
Starting point is 00:19:10 Yeah, need Mitt. Need Mitt. But, yeah, I assume that stunted his growth as well. You know, when you're four years old, you have a skull cracked in the middle of a whole thing. But, yeah, he comes from a badass family over there in Montana. Pretty good judge and read on humans, and I like the fact that he's saying Derek Carr's a good guy. Go ahead, Tone.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Could part of the reason, I was just looking at Aaron's contract and what Green Bay Packers could do, if they trade him, it's $40 million in dead cap. Could that be a reason why they want to keep him, potentially? Well, certainly, but that was known whenever they were thinking about maybe moving on, seemingly.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Yeah, which that's why I, no offense to Shefty, that never made sense to me because that's a lot of. Yeah, but if you're going to, like, didn't make the playoffs this past year, just bite the bullet. Sure. Pretty much. And just here we go. We're moving on. We're eliminating ourselves from this, and we're going to do our thing. We're going to move on to the Jordan Love era.
Starting point is 00:20:04 We got young wide receivers already on the salary, already on payroll. We've got a young quarterback who only needs some experience, might not make the playoffs this upcoming year. It'll be like a preseason year almost. And then on the other side, we'll have our money back in the salary cap. We'll have a year under Jordan Love's belt. Matt LaFleur and Jordan will know each other better. The young wide receivers will be able to build up their chemistry with Jordan Love.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Defense will hopefully be able to grow another year. It's like Ty didn't want to say, Ty said, we didn't make the playoffs, I'm not doing this again. Now is not the time to do turnover. And in my head it was like, from the franchise standpoint. From an organizational
Starting point is 00:20:41 standpoint, it absolutely makes sense. But yeah, as a fan, it's like, no, we have a fucking Hall of Fame quarterback who can still play. And, you know, obviously some Packers fans are, but I'm not ready to. And that's what I thought when they signed him. And you look at how much money was paid. I think the idea was that, hey, if he's either going to play for us for the next three years or two years or whatever it is,
Starting point is 00:21:04 and he's going to retire as a Packer so that the cap issue never comes into play. I didn't ever imagine that they were going to sign him to that massive contract, and then obviously you don't expect him to go 8-9 and miss the playoffs this year. But not once did I think, oh, after one year they're going to reassess this and they're going to be talking about trading him. How about a Pro Bowl game for Derek Carr, though? Yeah, unbelievable. Last night changed a very massive
Starting point is 00:21:28 narrative because him crying at the press conference, him losing, them not letting him in the building, that was very disrespectful. Hey, your dad, I guess he's kind of a part of that. Now, there's a lot of things that happened at the Indianapolis Colts that Tom McMahon was not happy about. So acting like every coach is on board with everything that goes on would be a lie and not true at all. There was times where things were happening with me behind the scenes where Tom McMahon was not fucking happy. Like, I would have to hear from other people that would have to hear from Tom about something that's happening with me. And I didn't even know that this had been happening to me yet. Tom had just got wind that I was getting fined for some tweet that i was definitely not going to delete and tom knew that this was going to be a whole fucking thing why are we doing this
Starting point is 00:22:12 so tom's marching his little ass around the building why do we have to fucking piss this guy off why i have to deal with them why the fuck are we doing this so tom is not on board with everything but the way the raiders handled that at the end borderline disgusting yeah for sure it was awkward and it felt like the vibe of the city it felt like the whole derrick carr became babyface big time through that whole thing first especially in my eyes yeah in my eyes he did and when i i gotta go out there for thanksgiving and i was just out there for a couple days to see my family and the vibe around the city and just in general the organization just seemed a little off with Derek Carr and then he turned baby
Starting point is 00:22:50 face when they seemingly kicked him out. I feel like the media might have mishandled the situation and within the building it could have been handled differently. I mean the local media of how it was reported, like we don't really know how the inside the inside the building.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Mitt sits down at the talk table how it was reported. Like, we don't really know how the inside the building. Oh. Mitt sits down at the talks table and says, wait, I have some tea to potentially chit-chat about. Mitt, you don't need to be breaking any of these news to get your dad into any shit, but that is a fascinating take that maybe everything that we heard wasn't the actuality. But last night, the way he played, the way he threw, the way he handled himself, it's like I think you've got a lot of fan bases going, I love this guy. All right, fuck.
Starting point is 00:23:28 This guy isn't a big baby back bitch like we maybe thought he was. He's got a live arm. He does have a live arm. And the dangling one from the drone, that's seemingly the easiest one for these guys to hit. They've hit that one pretty relatively easy. Gino hit that thing pretty easily. Derek hit that thing pretty easily.
Starting point is 00:23:45 The one-pointers, that's a tough one. That was the pretty easily. Derek hit that thing pretty easily. The one-pointers, that's a tough one. That was the hardest one. And it was only one point, and Derek was just literally peppering those things. Now, what you're watching here is Derek at the quarterback carnival. Precision passing is what they called it. This is in the Raiders' practice facility. So, obviously, he was a part of building this whole facility and everything about it.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Zero awkwardness. Peyton Manning did some great coaching. Ray Lewis was out there doing his thing. Eli was out there. The whole NFL live crew. Him missing his deep shot was the only thing he did wrong last night. That's right. He should know that ball's going to tail a little bit. A little bit going to tail, but I think Derek Carr had a big night for Derek Carr's brand last night. He had a very, very huge night, and that was similar to the throw that he made against the Steelers that D-Butt broke down on everything. D-B where it did accidentally tail a little bit on him. That's something that could happen.
Starting point is 00:24:32 Oh, that one went left. This one went right. He's got a tail. If that ball that he just threw was the ball in Pittsburgh, that's touchdown. That's right. And he's probably allowed in the building the rest of the year. Yeah, they may make the playoffs potentially. You know who else performed very well in that one?
Starting point is 00:24:48 Tyler Huntley. It was good to see him. No, I'm not being sarcastic. Because a lot of people were like, what's he doing in the Pro Bowl? And he came out and fucking slanged it around. So he was fourth alternate. And we've got to remember, if you're in the NFL and you're a quarterback, you're a better football player than all these fucks that are not in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:25:03 And there's a lot of backup quarterbacks around the NFL that can sling it. There's a lot of guys that cannot make it into the NFL that are on practice squads who can throw the pill. That bodes well for the Sunday flag football games in which Huntley, Derek Carr, and Trevor Lawrence will obviously be playing quarterback against Kirk Cousins, Jared Goff, and Geno Smith. Tyree Kill's out there. Yeah. Devontae. Devontae. Devontae Adams is out there for the AFC side.
Starting point is 00:25:28 You've got Justin Jefferson on the NFC side. I don't know if Jamar Chase is there. No. Sauce Gardner, though, is there, so he'll be on the other side of the field. I think there's a chance that we get some highlights on Sunday. Yeah, I think so. I think there's a chance. Now, I don't love that not all the guys are in this.
Starting point is 00:25:45 I think last night there were some points that were a little bit too Mickey Mouse for me. I agree. Like I think it was a little bit too gimmicky in some parts. But I do like that they're trying to at least get creative. I assume it will settle in. You know, this is like the first year of them trying to evolve the Pro Bowl to make it something that players want to go to and make it something that is still worthy of celebrating
Starting point is 00:26:06 the greatest players in the NFL. There was some shit last night that was like, come on, you don't have to always, almost like the ESPN, you don't always have to do the most Mickey Mouse thing. There are more than just 10 and 12-year-olds watching this. Exactly. That is something. So I think there was some of that.
Starting point is 00:26:27 But overall, I like the concept and the idea of let's have a good time here. Now, I don't know what the money is that guys on the winning team are getting paid out. I don't know if they're matching that for a foundation or for a philanthropic donation. I assume we up both of those. You might be able to get Josh Allen out of the AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am and into the Pro Bowl. But I think we've got a less Mickey Mouse, some of the less Mickey Mouse shit. Not that all of it was.
Starting point is 00:26:52 A little less Mickey Mouse shit, a little bit more compensation because everybody's viewing it as a business, and people at home are going to be like, you already get paid enough money to go to the Pro Bowl. It's like, okay, well, yeah, they make the Pro Bowl every fucking year, guys. So our legacy is already cemented. To keep them interested, let's make sure we think of it just how the NFL. Is the NFL making any money off of this?
Starting point is 00:27:11 I would assume so. Oh, they are. Is ESPN making any money off of this? I think so. Oh, so the guys in it probably are thinking we should probably make some money off this. Not that they don't, but if you up that with a donation and everything, I think we're on the right path to saving the Pro Bowl. Not that last night will be what it is every single year, but I like that they're trying to explore the space, as A.J. Hawk will say,
Starting point is 00:27:37 to make it a little bit more entertaining. And I think those flag football games are going to be something that's going to be good, But nobody had a bigger night than Derek. No, flag's going to be sweet. I thought the golf was cool. But, yeah, there's definitely some other ones you could probably replace with some things that maybe would be better. I didn't understand the water balloon thing at all. Optically, it looked terrible. And also, you have to find something that, like, showcases, like, showcase these guys' strength, these linemen.
Starting point is 00:28:05 That might happen on Sunday. Potentially. Yeah, because, like, I got a question. To ESPN's credit, this has never happened before, and who knows if they'll listen. They sent a text to us, and, I mean, it is what it is at this point. Like, we're a pretty okay-sized piece of the fabric of the NFL now. Our show is. Okay?
Starting point is 00:28:26 We are an NFL show. We were pretty – I mean, it sounds very arrogant, so I don't even want to say this because there's obviously a lot of other shows that have a lot of other things going on. We're a pretty good piece of the NFL story, I think, year in and year out now. Very lucky to be here. A lot of hard work from all the boys i appreciate the hell out of the opportunity but them actually reaching out and saying hey what did you and the guys think of last night and i said let's just see how the weekend goes
Starting point is 00:28:53 and then we'll give our now will they listen who knows but them even going like hey what are your thoughts i appreciate so on sunday let's see what's happening on sunday yeah you know and then let's kind of see how it all takes place but i think they are trying just fucking everything and then seeing what's good what isn't good because all parties would like to keep the pro bowl as something that people hold in high regards right oh yeah the water balloon thing i don't think they're ever going to get me i don't think you're ever going to sell me on that i don't i don't understand it and i might be in the minority, but I think the dodgeball thing's kind of played out too.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Like there are always some pretty cool moments from it, but I still think that there's better stuff or there's cooler stuff. Dodgeball was awesome. I don't know why they're playing against each other though. Like they're playing against each other to see which side of the ball represents against the other team i don't think that was explained well enough then because if you're just turning it on you saw nfc guys hucking balls at each other i think that kind of you know what i mean i don't know i don't know how
Starting point is 00:29:56 you fix it but i also don't know if that's the right play i think the dodgeball is entertaining though mostly because the guys are all very competitive and buy-in. True. Yeah, true. If you can get the boys to buy-in to anything, let's do it. You know, like I'm with it. The dodgeball, I will always enjoy. I will always enjoy the dodgeball. I didn't enjoy them going against each other first and maybe not being explained why they're going against each other because I'm calling it on Sunday. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Yeah. And I didn't understand what the fuck was going on. And then kind of through the game, you go, oh, so they're trying to figure out who's playing the other one. You're kind of piecing it together yourself. So that might have been on kind of the rollout of it all, but it wasn't a bad hour and a half of television. I don't think it was a bad hour.
Starting point is 00:30:36 I think there's more games like dodgeball that you could do, like that are competitive and like are more. Football and athletic. Yeah, more appealing to the eye eye too, of the viewer. Maybe like, what if they played volleyball for a little bit? Like, wouldn't that'd be fucking sweet.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Volleyball. Pretty sweet. Got to get guys to know how to play volleyball. Sure. I'm sure there's sure there's a, no, but like bowling, bowling,
Starting point is 00:30:57 there's going to be more guys that know how to bowl in the NFL that are at the pro bowl than golf. Home run derby. Like bowling is going to be something that I bet you see some dogs come out. Oh, yeah. A lot of guys, you know, bowling is a real deal. I'm not going to talk about the amount of money I've seen lost at a bowling alley, but I've seen wages mount quickly at a bowling alley by two people that are very fucking good bowlers.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Not as good as the guy who was just on PMT, Pete Weber. Pete Weber, sure. Great to hear that story. What's that, like 20 years later? Yeah. He was talking to a fucking 13-year-old? 10 or 12, 13, I don't know. Who do you think you are?
Starting point is 00:31:41 He was talking to a 13-year-old. That's a big cat. Yeah, big cat and PFT talked to him. He was talking to a 13-year-old. That is a big cat ass. Yeah, big cat and PFT talked to him. Yeah, he was talking to a 13-year-old. That is messed up. I did not know that. No, no, no. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Kid was talking shit loud enough for him to hear it. He said, oh, okay. Oh, is that right? All right. He said, you can talk shit. I better not hear it. Yeah. He said he flubbed it kind of, what he ended up saying.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Obviously, it wasn't a real sentence, but it is. Right. Who do you think you are? Oh, yeah. All-time moment. God damn, yeah. It's greatest bowling moment of all time. But I think't a real sentence, but it is. Who do you think you are? I am. All-time moment. Goddamn, yeah. It's greatest bowling moment of all time. But I think they'll be able to figure it out.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Yeah. You know, I think they'll be able to figure it out. I hope they will because the Pro Bowl is something that, as a kid, I watched when I was in Hawaii. Maybe take it back to Hawaii, too. I mean, that would help. You know, take it back to Hawaii. Hopefully, they're all in their own hotels.
Starting point is 00:32:21 You don't have to worry about other conventions and autograph hounds. Or even their own resort. Yeah, just kind of have it handled. Make it, if you want it to be treated like, treat it like. I was there for the last experience in Hawaii, actually, because the Colts staff, just the way it works out, the Colts coaching staff went. So I got to go for that.
Starting point is 00:32:41 And they had their own private uh private whole resort whole thing it was awesome they had stuff to do and then there wasn't any like there wasn't any just outsiders coming in it was an actual like speculation it was fun and then they moved it to orlando and like somewhere else arizona where did you have to go arizona yeah the issue with arizona and I love Arizona. Going to Arizona next week. Yeah, looking forward to it. Probably going to move to Arizona at some point in my life.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Hope the Cardinals figure it the fuck out. And Bidwell, we see your little blog coming after AQ. Yeah. It was unfair criticism of a guy who's been in six, seven different buildings. Right. Who, pretty smart. Yeah, I'd say. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:26 He doesn't know what he's talking about. And then showcasing everything that isn't inside the building as being upgrades that Bidwell came. Bidwell's got a burner blog. It's called Cardinals Update. That took offense to what AQ said about the building. But we all saw it on Hard Knocks. So it's not like...
Starting point is 00:33:42 Look at Cliff's office. You guys look like doofuses. You know what I mean? Bidwell, that is obviously your burner or that person is doing your thing. Like just upgrade the building. And if that's potentially what kept Sean Payton and Bidwell not being able to come to an agreement because the amount of money that Sean Payton wanted inside the facility to make some upgrades like, hey, our team meeting room is in our press room like that is not how it works in the nfl like that is not how the biggest league on earth that just signed 110 billion dollar deal last year that's only going to increase like that's not how it goes but i just think like if you want it to be held in high regard you got to treat it in high regard when i went to arizona i've told this before we were at a hotel we weren't the only people at the hotel can't do that and everybody's oh you spoiled athletes it's like i didn't give a fuck nobody had a clue who i was but jj watt couldn't walk it couldn't hang out with anybody couldn't talk to anybody couldn't do anything without autograph hounds you're acting like they're at another convention it's like the nfl was kind of thrown into suicide and made it
Starting point is 00:34:41 like a less lesser product right and spent less money on it and then now they're like how do we make it a better product it's like well you got to treat it as if it's a better product and i think they're at least trying to do that and i hopefully that starts because it seems like all the old stories you hear about the pro bowl when it was in hawaii like that was a big part of the allure was like getting to meet and talk with the other like legends and players yeah exactly and like that that you normally wouldn't be able to do in the season and then we've also talked about it several times like there has to be some sort of like you need to make it worth these guys time monetarily you just have to because somebody's making money off of this exactly and
Starting point is 00:35:18 and any more like you know i mean whether it's radio row or whatever like these guys if they wanted like like they can go find that money doing anything. You know, they don't have to go out and basically treat it like another work weekend, especially when you're removed from the season. It's like, oh, do I want to go on vacation with my family elsewhere? I haven't really seen for five, six months. I've seen them, but have I been present? Yeah, haven't got to spend any time with my kids or anything like that. Like, would you rather that or would you rather a work weekend in Vegas where, again, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:47 if it's not one of these guys who's very early in their career who still loves all that Vegas is, you know, like some of these older guys, like that's not a Hawaii for sure. It's like, oh, okay, I'll fucking go spend a week in Hawaii with my family. It's like a weekend in Vegas. I'm fucking 28 years old. Like, I've done this a thousand times. I don't want to do this again unless they're going to fucking make it worth your while and your time and pay you. It's business.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Yeah. So treat it as such. But I think last night was a good start. Yeah. I think last night was a good start. There were some parts that were tough to watch. For sure. And tough to listen to.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Yep. But. It's going to happen. Overall, I think pretty damn good. We were kicking around earlier, maybe some American Gladiator events, but I was thinking about it. People were just dislocating shoulders and shit all the time.
Starting point is 00:36:32 That's too physical. Well, whenever 225 pounds of twisted steel and sex appeal is coming down the pipe in Malibu, you got no fucking problem. But maybe it's like some Global Guts event. Yeah, why don't we get the Agro Crack? Exactly. Moat! Whatever they did in the aggro crack? Exactly. Moat! Whatever they did in the pool with the kayaks.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Yes. Chuxen and paintball. I don't know. Paintball would be awesome. Paintball would be sick. Yeah. Now, I think we'd learn a lot about some guys. Which would be awesome.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Yeah, extracurriculars. Three-point contest. Then you have those big redneck fucks that are just like posted up. Oh, they would be so good. It would be awesome to kind of watch that whole thing. Speaking of now, we are not a big, Hey, you need to void that bet program. Cause that is gambling. Yeah, exactly. Like sometimes people are going to get that's gambling. That's what it is. And that has become kind of a toxic part of gambling internet is just wanting to void everything that is not a bet hitting. Yeah. Sometimes you lose.
Starting point is 00:37:34 That's part of it. That's gambling. We're trying to take all of FanDuel's money, and they're trying to take all of our money. Once again, I have to restate this and hammer this home. FanDuel has zero ownership over anything that we do. They are our exclusive sportsbook partner. Just like our exclusive beer. What?
Starting point is 00:37:55 What? What? Okay. Just like our exclusive energy shot is five-hour energy right there. Just like our exclusive ticketing thing is SeatGeek. That is right there. So Fandle is not our boss. Fandle is not.
Starting point is 00:38:09 If we talk about gambling, we are talking about Fandle's numbers. That is the deal that we have. Fandle is our exclusive sportsbook. Now, that's for now. Who knows how long that lasts? Who knows how that goes? Fandle is our exclusive sports book for this pro.
Starting point is 00:38:27 They do not own us at all. And also with this new regime, it's not been as easy for us to create as many things that it was in the past. So we would like to take all of their fucking money whenever we're better.
Starting point is 00:38:43 This year was not good gambling for anybody. But we are not a, hey, that needs to be voided. Joe Mixon not getting the ball in that game against Buffalo because he allegedly was wielding a gun in somebody's face the day before a fucking playoff game. Crazy. This is all alleged now, and his lawyer has come out
Starting point is 00:39:03 and said that this charge will be dropped today, and is all a misunderstanding but he was clearly not on the field for that game he was a part of one of our bets and we're all so confused why mixon's got a c on his chest he's a guy he seems healthy he is dressed why is he not on the field it's come out now that he has potential gun charge coming out against him. Aggravated menacing, which is like violent threats, I think, in Ohio. That has come to the light. So obviously he was being punished or not playing. Something to think about there. Because that is a piece of information that should we have known?
Starting point is 00:39:40 Could we have known? Nope. I have no idea there. You know me. I am the most anti uh void bet guy that they're possible no no guy gets hurt in the first quarter void his bet because he was like everyone that's gambling people were all tweeting that the they should void the 40 any of you had 49ers money line or something like that they wanted it voided because purdy got hurt or
Starting point is 00:40:00 whatever but no that's part of gambling it It's inherent risk, whatever. But this here, I mean, Mixon has 20 carries for 105 against the Bills and then against the Bengals, he's got eight carries for 18 yards. That doesn't make sense. What is it? And he's standing on the sideline fully dressed. What is going on? That was a little bit of a weird thing. That's extenuating circumstances, okay?
Starting point is 00:40:21 That's something that's. Once again, we have to say his lawyer has come out and said that this is all fugace. And Joe Mixon has gotten in trouble in the past for the rest of his life. Any accusation is going to be taken much more serious because he's already been in trouble before. That is just what happens when you get in trouble.
Starting point is 00:40:38 For instance, if I was to get drunk again, people are going to be like, yeah, this is what Pat... This is what Pat does. Because I got a public intoxication. That's just something I have to know about, that this is just how it's going to go. If you get in trouble for something very physical, very violent, very terrible, whenever you're younger, even though you've grown and changed, people will be able to utilize that going forward and hold that against you going forward for any accusations that take place or fabricate an accusation knowing that it'll probably be taken
Starting point is 00:41:11 more serious so we have to at least account for reality there on joe mixon's side and obviously joe mixon's lawyer is going to say that this isn't real that's what his lawyer is supposed to say but allegedly today this is all supposed to get dropped but this all got kind of dropped into the world just yesterday. Tom Pelissero just spoke to Bengals running back Joe Mixon's agent, Pete Schaefer, who says the misdemeanor charge against Mixon will be dropped Friday. Okay, so that's what they're saying.
Starting point is 00:41:34 The other side of it said that there's an arrest warrant. Right. So I didn't know you were getting an arrest warrant for a misdemeanor. I had no idea that that takes place. And is aggravated menacing a lower degree than aggravated threats? Like, I don't understand fully what's going on, but I do know that we got fucked by this whole thing. Big time.
Starting point is 00:41:56 And the day before the game, why is this even coming up? You know what I mean? Yeah. What the fuck's going on? And how are we figuring it out just now? That is still what I don't. I mean, because if it's, you know, same deal. If it's bad, I mean, they were still going to.
Starting point is 00:42:08 He's still got some playing time. So it's like, why is there a distinction between, hey, let's give this guy 20 carries or, you know what, let's keep in mind, he allegedly or potentially was swinging a loaded gun in someone's face. So let's make sure we only give him 8 to 10 carries. He doesn't get 20. Yeah, how come he gets some carries, but not too many carries? You can't be the star of this game, but we definitely will need you in some parts.
Starting point is 00:42:30 We're going to need you on third down. That doesn't come in a coach's manual. Zach Taylor doesn't. He wielded a gun in somebody's face and said, I should fucking shoot you. Now, I understand you're saying it didn't happen, but I'm just telling you what. We were just called by the Cincinnati fucking police. Yeah, we had a whole game plan. Remember, you understand you're saying it didn't happen, but I'm just telling you what. We were just called by the Cincinnati
Starting point is 00:42:45 fucking police. Yeah, we had a whole game plan. Remember, you were going to run a full... 25 carries. So Zach Taylor's talking about the... What are we supposed to... We don't know if it's true, though. So if we fucking don't... It's the biggest game of the year. So if we don't dress him, everybody's going to ask about what it is and if it gets dropped.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Give him enough carries to make it seem like... But he can't do too good, because if he does too good,, everybody's going to ask about what it is and if it gets dropped. Give him enough carries to make it seem like. But he can't do too good because if he does too good, then it's going to. Joe, why? What are you doing? How does this even? You know, it would have seemed very scary. Can't be happening. His side saying it didn't happen.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Their side saying it did happen. But that definitely affected us. Big time. And everything we had cooking in that particular game. Yeah. And a lot of people gambling. I wonder how they're going to treat all this shit going forward, especially with people gambling on games.
Starting point is 00:43:30 People's money being a thing is going to change a lot. I think it's going to change the officiating. Yeah. I think this week was a big week for the officiating getting changed in the future. And although it had to take some ridiculous and absurd turns to get here, I'm happy with the place we landed in, which I think they're going to be changing the officiating and how it's treated going forward.
Starting point is 00:43:48 Great news. Even though we had to deal with some of the stupidest members of our society yelling at us, calling us sellouts and crooks. Does gambling be the thing that actually makes officials full-time? Yes. Well, I don't think it's – I think gambling – I think this is a ripple. This is hot.
Starting point is 00:44:04 I'm sweating. This thing is huge. It does sweating. This thing is huge. It does its job. This thing is great. It's sweet. It's really nice. This thing is really cool. Good material.
Starting point is 00:44:12 Especially if I get, like, jocked. Yeah. Imagine me just with this on, no tank top on underneath. I'm going to look so cool. Fucking Miami Vice. Big old sunglasses on. Hey, what's up, boys? I think the gambling leads people getting more
Starting point is 00:44:25 pissed off more vocal which then the nfl has to kind of put the fire out because whenever you have your own money on it and you see fucking a ref obviously screw something that third and nine is gonna be it yeah all right the third nine is gonna be it and gene sterator who i fucking love that yeah unbelievable i loved him when he was a ref. I was able to talk to Gene Steratore from day one as if we had been friends forever. Now, Western Pennsylvania, Paisan, I had talked to him a thousand times in my life before meeting him.
Starting point is 00:44:56 I understood he had a personality. I understood who he was. I understood how he would take some things. But I think the first thing I said to Gene was like, hey, what's up, fucking Paisan or something like that? And he goes, Patty. That was immediate. Like literally the first time we chatted was on a field.
Starting point is 00:45:11 I think it was maybe my first or second year in the NFL. And it was just like a quick give and go. And I always chatted with refs, always. I think you can ask any ref that I always chatted with them because they were right here behind me on a punt. Kickoff, obviously I'm dealing with the ump. But every time I go out to punt, ref right here. We hit a lot of onside kicks too, a lot of surprise onside kicks. So a lot of refs coming up to me before games,
Starting point is 00:45:34 hey, if you're going to hit one, can you please give us a heads up because we'd like to be able to keep an eye on everything. Hey, you got it, you got it. There was a lot of that type of stuff. So I had a good relationship with all the refs. I was not scared to tell them, like, hey, you fucked one up there, pal. You know what I mean? Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 00:45:50 What do you mean? Two series ago. You fucked that guy. You owe us. You owe us. Oh, Pat, fuck off. Then I hit a shank, you know? Oh!
Starting point is 00:45:58 You know, like it was a real, I feel like I had a good relationship between the refs. Gene Steratore was always an incredible speaker, always an incredible communicator, which I think is a trait that every ref should have, especially the old white cap. You know, Hockey League, great communicator. Gene Steratore, one of the greatest. Cleet Blakeman, great. Hussey, great. Not that Hussey and his crew were always fantastic.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Hussey's a great communicator. He has some sense of confidence, which you have to have whenever you're in a one-shot with 50 million people watching and you're a representative of the league. You are a representative of the game, of the sport. I think Gene kind of alluded to that Ron could have handled that differently because Gene said, in my backyard, you know, here we're playing football. Afterwards, we go, how long was that play?
Starting point is 00:46:42 17 seconds, we need to do that. He said, that's real easy to kind of do in the backyard with 42 million people watching in a moment in the playoffs. Like, how do you do that? So it's like Ron did fuck that up, I think. The way he handled it, he fucked it up. Now, should that ref, who was not even supposed to be calling that, came in hard with a whistle and stopped the whole thing before it even starts? Probably. But Gene explained that that wasn't even his fucking job.
Starting point is 00:47:04 The other guy. He was just kind of looking out. So it was a mis-execution by one person. It was like a half-ass save job by the other one. And then Ron, I don't want to say he panicked, but just tried to do what he thought was right, which led to a fucking extra down, first down in the fourth quarter, very important and crucial part of the game,
Starting point is 00:47:22 and now the game's fucking rigged. So they're going to have to figure all that out, but that third and nine, I think, alongside gambling, will be what I think hopefully makes officiating better, and it sucks that the Bengals fans are the ones that had to go through that and be on the receiving end of it, but I think for the good of the game, it'll come out on the other side much better. A man who's a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup champion, an absolute stallion as a COVID survivor
Starting point is 00:47:49 and father of 10, A.J. Hall. A.J.! What's up, A.J.? What's up? Conman went down with the illness? You heard him yesterday a little bit, you know? Yesterday. Yeah, he was texting me.
Starting point is 00:48:01 I knew he was feeling not great yesterday. Was he already dumping yesterday? No, could you hear him yesterday? Every time he yesterday i was almost like come on and he was like oh it's our i'm having allergies or whatever it's like i literally just had this like what 24 hours ago i i hate to be the bearer of bad news but i do believe you have no and he gets the iv he got the iv done yesterday and then this morning morning, I was like, hey, don't come in if you're feeling sick. He said, oh, I'm feeling good. I feel good. Don't worry about it. I'm here. And then as soon as he got here, he was like,
Starting point is 00:48:31 I'm starting to feel a little something. I'm like, yeah, okay, Connor. Connor's a workhorse, though. That is literally what Connor is. So you kind of got to pull the reins back on him. He's at home resting, probably sleeping right now. We certainly miss him. We'll see him in Arizona in a couple days. Are you excited for our big trip, AJ?
Starting point is 00:48:47 It's the annual Super Bowl trip. I know. I can't believe it's already here. For real. It has gone fast, and we're already, yeah, we'll be out there for a week. It's a long time, so I'm excited. That's accurate. This has become a yearly celebration, not only for, obviously, the league,
Starting point is 00:49:01 but for our show and for our program. I view it that way. I had a blast last year. It's like a banquet. It like a banquet it's like end of the year celebration banquet slash work trip a lot of hard work you know this season now work is a yeah you know in comparison to you know to your point we'll just elaborate on the relative too we're not laying bricks. No. Okay? My old man was a truck driving mover. Long haul truck driver mover. Okay? So you piece together just fucking two miserable jobs.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Okay? That's what he did for like the first 12 years of my life, I think. 10, 12 years of my life. Just driving across the country, moving buildings to the other thing on slides and just absolute boom. That's hard work. Being obviously a teacher, a cop in the military, like that's hard work. But a lot has happened this season that we've kind of followed along with. And this Super Bowl week, the Radio Row week, is kind of a celebration of all of it. We get a chance to see everybody. We get a chance to chat with everybody.
Starting point is 00:50:02 We have so many guests. I'm super pumped to get out there. I'm going to miss this year, though. You you know this is a hell of a year for us what do you mean you're gonna miss like what what the memories we made leading up to this point yeah it just went so quick like to your point everything went so fucking fast this year this wait till your wait till your kid's born man that's like what i my son just had his 10th birthday my daughter's 12 like i got two kids in double digits. That is weird. Life's flying, huh? Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:50:29 I mean, hey, what do I say? These are the good old days, right? Hell yeah. We can't sit there. We don't need to look forward. We don't need to worry about the past. We're living it right now. Time's flying like those China balloons.
Starting point is 00:50:38 Shout out to you, Connor. I did that for you. Oh, I thought that was an alien thing. No. See, that's the... Now, the NFL being rigged people. Conman is losing his mind at home right now. Yeah, he's pissed that we're not talking about this China balloon. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:50:56 He is that we haven't brought it up yet. He's probably sleeping right now, so he doesn't even know we haven't brought it up. But if he wakes up and turns the show on, and there's a seven to eight minute period where we do not talk about this china balloon that's flying all across america all willy-nilly he's going to be furious put a pole in stevie so for the good of connor we are going to talk about this how come this fucker has not been shot down what are we i don't know enough about enough but isn't this just this is duck right, the game? Yep. But they said, though, what I read recently was this thing got up to 60,000 feet. That's why normal people aren't shooting it down.
Starting point is 00:51:31 I mean, it takes. Shoot an RPG at it. I mean, you got one of those hanging out in the back? You got one in the basement, Ty? I bet people in Montana do. Take out an elk, a big old elk. Old Montana or new Montana? Old Montana.
Starting point is 00:51:44 A couple states. Bob Lee's a new Montana? Old Montana. Bob Lee's flaggers shoot that fucking thing. If the thing flies low over some states, there'll be a good chance some people will take it in their own hands, I would imagine. I would guarantee. As soon as they heard, oh, this balloon's from China? These people trying to steal our... Let that fucker drop down. They're going to the range right now.
Starting point is 00:52:02 Can you tell me how many feet, if I shoot that against against gravity how high that thing would be able to get on accuracy and how much do i have to account for potential wind blow and drift and the world obviously turn that what altitude will i be able to snipe this fucker right through the middle of it and god damn i save united states of america that's right because who knows what type of information they're getting they're just accidentally floating over top of united states of america in a time like this i't think so. There's a lot of people that feel that way. But I am vastly confused how this is just like, oh, yeah, it's just China. That's just China. What?
Starting point is 00:52:34 They got to Montana before it was made public to us, I guess, right? Yeah. So where did it come from? Did it come from Antarctica? Yeah, where did it come from? Yeah, it probably came through Canada. Up over Earth because it is round. Come on, Gump. I thought Gump would take care of this. I thought Yeah, it probably came through Canada. Up over Earth. Because it is round. Come on, Gump.
Starting point is 00:52:46 I thought Gump would take care of this. I thought there was a second one in Canada. Gump might have been sleeping, you know. Time's up. True. I don't know if he sleeps. 60,000 feet. I guess there are some fighter planes that can get up there.
Starting point is 00:52:57 Send fucking TC after this thing. Yep. 60,000 feet is so high. Yeah, it is. This concerns me that we're not shooting it down because it means that we're afraid of the repercussions if we do shoot it down. Well, see, that is what some people are saying. Oh, we're scared to fucking shoot down a spy balloon? Is that what we're scared?
Starting point is 00:53:17 This ain't my country. I have not followed along closely enough with the rhetoric, but I just heard people that I know that believe that way immediately saying that upon that whole thing happened. And on the other side, you hear people saying there's no way China did this on purpose. They're just going to send a balloon over the United States of America and cause it. That's probably what other people were saying. I would like to say I don't like it. No. I don't like it one bit.
Starting point is 00:53:43 I don't know what it means. I have no idea what it means. But I know you're not just supposed to be bopping through don't like it. No. I don't like it one bit. I don't know what it means. I have no idea what it means. But I know you're not just supposed to be bopping through people's airspace. No. Especially if you're not, like, the best of friends, you know. I just, I don't know if that's, what the fuck is going on? That's not even airspace. That's, like, altitude whatever it's called.
Starting point is 00:53:59 Class E airspace. Do we think China just started watching Yellowstone and they just want to see how beautiful it is? Come on, Nick. My question is, how did that thing go over Butte, Montana, and nobody fucking shot that thing down? Well, that's what we're saying. We think it's maybe too high. Yeah, 60,000 feet is – there is no way. It's time for Mitt to be a hero.
Starting point is 00:54:21 Hold on. Don't we have all of our – don't we have all't we have all of our planes are out there, right? Area 51 is out in that area. All of our big Air Force bases are out there. Colorado. We can get to it. I'm sure we've circled it and looked around. Yeah, we've checked it out, I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:54:35 Our intercontinental missiles, we've got a silo near there. A couple ICBMs. You think we buzzed the tower a couple times, buzzed the balloon? Let them know. What if we put on the side of it, in Chinese, get the fuck out on one of the things that we just buzzed by the balloon or whatever? But I did. My tweet was basically a much different take on why is it here?
Starting point is 00:54:58 Because why is it here? And how many balloons do we got flying over? And is this what modern technology is? I don't know. But we've been told that all these fucking UFOs that we see, you know, the Tic Tac one that's going fucking however many miles an hour pulling, however many Gs it's pulling. The one that just goes into the water, out of the water without causing any splash or having any source of propulsion seemingly being pulled almost as if it's a gravitational pull forward faster than anything we have without any gas or anything coming out of the back of it now obviously that isn't happening in some people's life cool just refuse to look at the videos that's all right with you go through your life i do the same mostly in politics i'm just i stay away from it i understand that but we're always told it's foreign aircraft it's foreign aircraft This is what the leading tech foreign adversary of ours is using, a balloon.
Starting point is 00:55:52 This thing ain't going fucking 10,000 miles an hour. This thing's out of the movie Up, dude. Yeah. So enough telling me that that is a foreign aircraft that is doing whatever those UFOs are doing in video, and let's get a better answer next time. Because now we know it's complete bullshit because they are literally a hot air balloon with a goddamn camera
Starting point is 00:56:12 on it. So that ain't gonna fly anymore. Even though that is seemingly still flying over the United States. I have a better answer. We talked about it briefly. China said, hey, give us our biggest, dumbest piece of sky spy equipment we have. Nailed it.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Did not nail it. Sky spy equipment. Yeah, that's right. Sky spy equipment we have. Okay? I mean, we all read the book. Art of War, Sun Tzu. Rest in peace.
Starting point is 00:56:39 He did die. Make these fucking Americans look up here. What are we doing up here while our fucking pill machine is running over here? So what you're saying is snowball trick. Oh, look at that snowball. I've never been in snow before. I'm in a snowball fight. This is fun.
Starting point is 00:56:57 There's one coming. Oh, you threw it soft. And then you got a middle finger fastball coming right at their face. So you're saying that's what this is? That can't be their state-of-art spy equipment up there. It's at 60,000 feet. That's pretty fucking high. It's also possible.
Starting point is 00:57:12 I watched Felix Bumgarner jump out of a fucking balloon. He fell out because he was passed out. He did. Remember, he almost got sent to space and died. How high was he? Where was he? Very high. He was at the very top of the edge of space.
Starting point is 00:57:25 He passed out, right? Didn't he? Big time. It was tumbling end over end. And then he came back to it. Oh, I guess I made it. Yeah. Put your fucking shoe.
Starting point is 00:57:33 What a time. He was 128,000 feet. But I don't think he was supposed to be. I don't know why. I don't think he was supposed to be that high. I think he was supposed to leave at some point, and he chose not to. I believe. Or didn't choose not to.
Starting point is 00:57:45 He passed out. Yeah. Because... Could this be David Blaine? No, he had that little fucking... Is he strapped to it? Yeah, is he strapped to it? Could be great.
Starting point is 00:57:53 Maybe we send him up, honestly. That might be the... Go snoop around. See what they're... It's just like a dart, and he could just fucking... Boop. This just kind of came out of nowhere, though, didn't it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:02 It's like, all right, Russia's fighting Ukraine still, right? Your anniversary was the other day. I saw that on the news. Very much so, yeah. Yeah, we're very much involved now, too, I heard. Just learned that. Fucking tanking. We're in there.
Starting point is 00:58:13 There's a lot. There's a lot surrounding that whole situation. I don't know what's going on, man. Yeah, if Conor was here, obviously, he would have a full take, I assume, on what you just said. That sounded like an alley-oop to Connor, who's not here. No, I'm dead serious. I don't know. It's one of those things where I don't, we've gone this far that I'm not sure. Like, honestly, I have no clue, like,
Starting point is 00:58:31 what's happening. I haven't looked into it enough. I didn't know that we were as involved as we were involved. I think I found that out in the last 24 hours. And I'm like, oh, okay, so, like, some real shit's going down. And once again... Some people want us involved, and some don't want us involved. I'm guessing that's correct, right, in America? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:46 I didn't even know we were as involved as we are until very recently. Like I said, I'm very ignorant on the situation, so that's what I'm trying to figure out. So we won't give a take, and it's not our job to give anybody opinions. But when I learned how involved we were, I was like, oh, fuck, we're in there. Right? I believe so. I didn like, oh, fuck, we are. We're in there, right? Like, we are. I believe so. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:59:08 I had no idea. Like, we are. Sending a lot of supplies. A lot. I didn't know that. So then China are coming in. What's that all about? Are they?
Starting point is 00:59:20 Is that a? Well, it's possible, if I could be frank for a minute, that we paused. The aircraft didn't notice that John Cena was piloting the craft. We chose not to take military action. All right, let's talk about some sports. That's when we ruin it. That's when we can't... We miss you, Connor. That's when...
Starting point is 00:59:38 That's why we can't kill anything. But I guess there is shit happening in the real world. We have to remember that. That's right. We do have to remember that. And at the same time, we also have to not give a fuck about it because there ain't nothing we can do about it. Bingo. Nope.
Starting point is 00:59:48 We have the Super Bowl this weekend. Hell yeah. Or next weekend. Hell yeah. Okay. Let's focus on that. We have the Pro Bowl. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:55 Bingo. The games. The Pro Bowl games. Yes. AJ, did you watch last night? What were your thoughts? I was unable to watch live. I went back and got to see a good chunk of it.
Starting point is 01:00:05 Yeah, I think they're trying. I think it's a good thing they're trying new things. They explored a space. I think it's made for kids. That's what it is. It's made for, like, my kids would love watching most of that stuff. That's all I'm saying. Do we have to keep it as Mickey Mouse?
Starting point is 01:00:20 Like, that's my, I love the idea. I love the creativity. I like that we are making it a couple-night spectacle Thursday and Sunday. Sunday on ABC, ESPN, ESPN+, ESPN2, Disney, everything, right? I thought they were doing Friday-Saturday stuff too. I don't think so. Just Thursday-Sunday because there's practice, I believe, for the 7-on-7 and the other stuff going on.
Starting point is 01:00:42 We'll be joined by Peyton Manning in an hour and 15 minutes live directly after the AFC's practice. So I can't wait to chat with him about everything and his thoughts on it. I think some of it last night was awesome. I enjoy the quarterback carnival, and I enjoy some of the events. Some of it was real Mickey Mouse, though. Real Mickey Mouse, but I guess that's what you're going to get whenever, to your point, I don't have as many kids as you do.
Starting point is 01:01:06 I don't have any kids yet. But to your point, I guess it is just strictly trying to get kids to watch it. Was last night on ABC as well? I don't think so. ESPN and ESPN Plus, I believe. I don't know if last night was on ABC. That would be a reason. It would be more Mickey Mouse.
Starting point is 01:01:22 They generally tend to clean up network tv a little bit more than just basic cable stuff nobody told me that i was on fox for 18 months just fucking letting it fly that's 100 on me but um it's never gonna get like it's never gonna be the games are never gonna be like risque they're never gonna be like hey or can this be on abc it's nothing like that yeah we don't want, like, just. Having Bob for apples and stuff like that, like carnival games. That's basically what. That's what we're saying. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:49 Like, we don't need to be doing that. It's a very tough task. I feel for them. Like, trying to make it where you could not only watch it and tune it, but, like, actually stay with it and stick with it and watch the whole thing. That's what's tough. I know Jimmy Clawson killed it. And you tweeted about it.
Starting point is 01:02:02 Yeah. Jimmy Clawson. The last time I saw Jimmy Clawson, we were both at a party together, and Jimmy was having a good time, as was I. But Jimmy Clawson, Matt Leinart being the quarterbacks for the best catch was upset of the year thus far, 2023. Upset of the year thus far, seeing Jimmy Clawson. The best catch, I thought whenever they did it live, was pretty good.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Created some good content. They did a prerecord with utilizing all the vegas both this zip line i believe that's in it's like through downtown la isn't it or downtown vegas fremont street or something no yeah i think so they use the eiffel tower but not the top of the Eiffel Tower. Matt Leinart of Fox throwing the ball. Matt Leinart and Jimmy Clawson being the quarterbacks. Surprise. Love seeing both of them. Yeah, for sure. Jimmy Clawson's alive. Matt Leinart's still got it.
Starting point is 01:02:54 So that's... Here we go. There we go. Pumped about that. I think we should have went to the top of the Eiffel Tower. It's Justin Jefferson. Also, no need to show his drops. What are we doing?
Starting point is 01:03:03 It's pre-records. Yeah, what's the point? Are we trying to put the guy over What are we doing? It's pre-records. Yeah, what's the point? Are we trying to put the guy over or not? Why are we doing pre-records? What is the point of that? I can do cool catches if we do a pre-record. Wow. The internet has kind of changed the game.
Starting point is 01:03:18 Because Juju Smith-Schuster, we saw him hit a slip and slide double twisty thing. Yep. Inside Axel, Tony Hawk grab into a pool, and then a couple of his TikTok buddies did something very similar. Right. Literally immediately afterwards. And if we're going to do that,
Starting point is 01:03:34 the dude perfect guy should be the one throwing the balls to the receiver. Tyler should have been there. Why wasn't Tyler there, Pete? Now that's something maybe we change for next year. Yeah. Maybe we're able to give it. I think they're just trying right now to see what they like, what they don't like. I think everybody wants to see the future of the Pro Bowl matter,
Starting point is 01:03:51 and I think this is kind of the first step, the evolution of it all. I enjoyed it. I watched it. I enjoyed it. It was a pastime. There were some things I was like, ah, but it's not for me, I guess, to your point. But I think the Pro Bowl needs to be held in high regard, but it needs to be treated as such if we're looking to do that, AJ.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Yeah, I think ultimately you just want to see the guys having fun competing together, and they did. They looked like they were enjoying themselves, and they did compete, and they were having fun. So, yeah, that's the thing. How long can that hold your attention is the question. Dodge ball, always fun. Had them playing against each other.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Didn't understand that at the beginning, but made sense towards the question. Dodgeball, always fun. Had them playing against each other. Didn't understand that at the beginning, but made sense towards the end. Maybe do dodgeball against, like, get a group of fans that are there that feel like they are all-star dodgeball players and play them against these people. Haters on Twitter. Yes. That would be awesome. That's a good idea. People that have sent tweets about Saquon
Starting point is 01:04:39 or Kittle. Put their handle, they're wearing the handles on their chest of their shirt, too. No, the tweet that they sent on their chest handle across the back. Do reporters too when they ask dumb questions? So, that's going to be tough to get the media to sign up for that I think. They'll do that, but not a bad
Starting point is 01:04:56 idea if they want to. Maybe people that are assholes on the internet their tweets are in front of them then they have to take on the pro bowlers in dodgeball. That's a good idea. And that has some legs. And these guys would probably sign up to fucking, you know, there'd be a line of guys wanting to play in that. Saquon Barkley, pretty quick feet, pretty quick feet, that guy. He's legs. You don't say, do you? Dude, his legs are so long. He can't even fit in shorts, like his legs are so damn big. Look at how uncomfortable
Starting point is 01:05:22 it has to be. Buying jeans. Matrix. Buying jeans and shorts. Just a nightmare of an experience for Saquon Barkley. Look at those calves. Look at that thing. Look at his fucking legs, dude. He's about to have another massive year next year, huh? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:37 Oh, yeah. Big time. Running for a bag next year. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. All right. Let's go to some other news. CBS allegedly tried an intervention on Tony Romo. Man.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Not to booze an intervention, like everybody automatically assumed whenever they read the headline of the video as it was tweeted, but an intervention on him to change the way he approaches the game every single Sunday. Andrew Marchand of the Sports Business Report podcast, alongside Andrew Uron. John. There it is.
Starting point is 01:06:04 Andrew Marchand. Bingo. John Uron. They. There it is. Andrew Marchand. John Uron. They've been very nice to us. At the beginning, not so much. Right. But I think they pay attention to everything. They do. And have given us a lot of love over the years, so I appreciate that full circle
Starting point is 01:06:19 with Andrew Marchand. Last year at the Radio Road, that's another thing like Radio Road does. We're able to put kind of humans to things that have been said. News CBS Sports execs went down to Dallas last offseason to address their $180 million man Tony Romo's slippage. CBS commented on what I termed an intervention. Then this comes from the podcast alongside John Urand where Andrew Marchand basically laid out the fact that they didn't think he prepared enough.
Starting point is 01:06:47 And the further you get away from actually playing, the more you have to prepare because the game changes, the people change, and the things that are taking place on the day-to-day change. And he might forget about some of this stuff. And I think we can all, whenever we listen to Tony Romo, we think to ourselves, he's kind of freewheeling it out there. That's what this show does. So obviously we have respect for that type of action. 50 million people aren't watching this show. And if 50 million people are watching a show, there's a problem, you know, a big time problem taking place. What are your thoughts on this? And do you think CBS wanted this to get leaked or not get leaked? And you think Tony Romo potentially, in spite of the CBS people,
Starting point is 01:07:27 chose to do less work than he'd done in the past, this past season. I don't care if 50 million people are going to have to deal with this. I'm going to let these CBS folks know, don't come to my house. Okay, I'll do my job. You do your job. I'll see you there. How do you think this pans out? And what do you think the ripple effects are of this for the relationship between the two?
Starting point is 01:07:46 Well, I think a big part of it also is the fact that Greg Olson and Burkhart kind of have hit the ground running, and people look at them as a primetime crew, and they really like what they've done, and they're going to be doing the Super Bowl. I think it'll impress more people. But I wonder if CBS wanted it out. Maybe if they felt like they weren't getting through to Tony, and then, yeah, they were okay with it getting out. I just don't know if they felt like they weren't getting through to Tony and they weren't, then yeah, they were okay with it getting out. I just don't know if they would be, is CBS all right and Tony okay with the fact that this guy said it was an intervention?
Starting point is 01:08:11 I would imagine that makes it sound way more dramatic. Very dramatic. And also critiquing, that would be CBS critiquing their lead guy who they're paying $180 million on. Which they should. You should get feedback. That is the hard thing about TV. People need feedback, but they got to go seek it out. Not publicly, though.
Starting point is 01:08:26 Your company that's paying you shouldn't be doing it publicly. Exactly. I don't think so, personally. I think CBS should have his back. Oh, no, 100% of the time. Publicly, they should always have his back. Everybody's burying Tony. I think just team.
Starting point is 01:08:40 This is team thought. Team. Big team. We're a big team. Publicly, the team should have his back. Privately, they should go, hey, a lot of valid points here, though. So this becoming public, I assume CBS didn't want. What did Tony Romo say, and how did the conversation go?
Starting point is 01:08:56 Yeah, I think it was, I believe, David Burson and Harold Bryant are the two CBS sports executives. I think they went down there. They laid everything out intervention-wise, and he probably said, you know what, boys? Why don't you guys just kiss my nutsack? Okay, you have no idea how low I can stoop. Okay, you think I was bad last year?
Starting point is 01:09:18 Wow. Wow. Wait until you see me this year. What are you going to do this year, Tone? Well, I don't know. How about I have, I don't know, five, six whiskey sours before every game. Maybe fucking eat shit while Jim's trying to tell me questions and just act like I didn't hear him.
Starting point is 01:09:34 I'm not going to study. I'm not going to watch any of the games. I don't know. I'll do whatever I want in the booth. How's that? You guys are paying me $180 million. Is that my fault? Or I don't know. Is that your fault? I don't know. I'll do whatever I want in the booth. You guys are paying me $180 million. Is that my fault? Or I don't know. Is that your fault?
Starting point is 01:09:49 Get the fuck out of my house. Well, then it came out right after, too. I think it was Marshawn said that CBS tried to hire Peyton before they gave Romo the $180 million deal. So it does kind of seem like they have just heard everything everyone's saying, and they're like, you know what, fuck this guy. Let's try to make it known that we weren't okay with what he was doing, and we kind of tried to get rid of him.
Starting point is 01:10:13 Yeah, this is CBS trying to babyface on their guy. This is CBS saying, hey, we understand, we apologize for what's taking place, and maybe we enabled what's taking place, but I would like to be firm in the stance that tony romo if he continues to be tony romo we'll come back babyface on it it's just it's kind of how the world is it's already happened for digs yeah digs is already all the way back on tony romo's side it happens quicker for tone because i think he's a little bit more you know he became a cowboy when he watched one season of yellow stuff i mean these are these are things that happen but it's just natural cycle to be like shiny new toy love it
Starting point is 01:10:49 hate it and eventually if you follow wrestling at all or just like this type of thing like it'll come back full circle and i wonder if that's what tony told him or if cbs is even gonna allow that to take i've just started treating him like like when Conor did the full circle thing. What was that, last week or whatever? I'm kind of on that same path where if you treat him as a comedian and just take it strictly as a comedic performance during a football game, it's really actually kind of nice. Yeah, if you view everybody as a movie character in the movie that is life,
Starting point is 01:11:22 he is certainly an entertaining one. I don't think it's easy to be a commentator i don't think it's uh a forgiving job but from what i heard like he's pretty willy-nilly in there oh yeah flies in late leaves great i was surprised the intervention happened before this season was there that much smoke about what he was doing last season i thought this season when it really kind of the groundswellwell was like, okay, here we go. So that means CBS has at least somebody on the internet. Yep. You know, because the internet,
Starting point is 01:11:51 I don't want to say the internet normally ahead of things, but the internet normally ahead of things. That's the way it is. Not everything's right. So you kind of got to filter through a lot of shit. But the internet is a focus group. Twitter is a focus group. It should be treated as such.
Starting point is 01:12:04 There's always going to be shit bags and things that aren't worthy of being listened to and people that are looking for negative attention and people that think saying something terrible to somebody and getting blocked is a act of achievement. And that's always going to take place. But you can normally get a pretty good grip of how people feel about something. If somebody likes something, they're not just going to go out of their way to go tweet about it. If somebody loves something, they're probably going to do that. If somebody hates something, they're probably going to tweet about it. So if it's not that loud, people probably okay with it. But once it gets very loud one way,
Starting point is 01:12:43 there's probably a reason and an adjustment to make. Now, when I joined game day, it was very loud amongst a group of people that we all know exactly what they look like right now. They are the old whites. That is not all older white people. It is the old whites, which is a group of white people that are old that hate everything and they are on the internet they normally kind of hibernate in facebook worlds in comment sections but they did understand what twitter was and they have made their way over to twitter and they were i don't want to say pretty loud but they hated me pretty good i had to take that in i I had to, like, account for that. Like, okay, a large portion of the college football community from the south who is older and white, old whites, same group that hated me whenever I go into any new group, certainly still hate me.
Starting point is 01:13:34 Let's monitor that as the year goes on. And if I feel like I'm making show worse, let's acknowledge that as well for future decision making. You know, like something can't change your life because of what's being said on there. Can't change your business like some. We're seeing that right now. People are changing their entire business philosophy and everything like that from what they read on Twitter. But you definitely have to account for it. So I think this showcases that CBS has a little bit of a feel of what's potentially being said. They're allegedly trying to get ahead of it. And obviously things change this year.
Starting point is 01:14:09 Maybe this will be what Tony needs though. Maybe Tony will go on and continue to be one of the great commentators like he was the first year he was in the booth and earned that $180 million contract. I mean, just like the NFL, maybe this is cyclical too. He comes in, he was great his first couple of years, starts to stink a little bit, falls off the wagon, maybe this is cyclical too. He comes in. He was great his first couple of years. Starts to stink a little bit. Falls off the wagon. Gets a nice little reset, reboot. Now he's coming back next year.
Starting point is 01:14:33 Tony Romo, best broadcaster out there. Can we bet on him for comeback commentator of the year? I mean, I wish we could. Right now, I wish we could. Well, he wasn't injured. He just wasn't good. Oh, that's your big problem with the comeback player of the year. Big, big problem. Tony Diggs has big problem with the comeback player of the year.
Starting point is 01:14:45 Big, big problem. Tony Diggs has a massive problem with comeback player of the year just being treated as somebody who either stunk or was hurt and then got good at football again. That should strictly be somebody who got hurt and then came back and played better football. Very much so. Now, props to Geno Smith. He had a fucking incredible year, but he was not hurt last year.
Starting point is 01:15:03 There should be a most improved award, which he should definitely win this year. Comeback player, Saquon, Christian McCaffrey, those should be your guys. Okay. How about Tony Romo? Got a chance to become Comeback Commentator of the Year if they're going to continue to use the not get hurt, but maybe just
Starting point is 01:15:18 not do good? You think he's got a chance to win it next year? I think he's fucking probably odds on favorite. Hell yeah. Good luck, Tony. We're pulling for you. Love you, Tony. Tony, are you going to work harder this offseason? Yeah, if I work harder, you mean play a couple more rounds of golf during the week? I mean, CBS made their bet.
Starting point is 01:15:35 I'm going to sleep in it. Once again, they can kiss my nutsack and lick my butthole because unless they're going to pay me less money, I'm going to do the exact same thing next year. What happened that one day he showed up, he had an actual golf tan? Oh, yeah. You remember that?
Starting point is 01:15:52 Yep. They didn't have enough makeup to be able to get his fucking four. Every person that's ever golfed in a sunny day has experienced it. And he goes and wins Tahoe. This guy's dialed in on a golf course. Stud golfer. Stud golfer. Yeah, you don't just get there. You've got to work at that. Yeah. has experience and he goes and wins Tahoe. Like this guy's dialed in on a golf club. Yeah. You don't just get there, you know,
Starting point is 01:16:07 like you got to work at that. Yeah. Then he shows up in the booth, fucking whitehead, tan cheeks, and he's calling the game. And it's like, this dude is living right now.
Starting point is 01:16:16 Just golfing, doing his thing, kind of free, freewheeling up there. And then people just kind of, I think God, uh, Hey,
Starting point is 01:16:22 like we live for this tone. I know. I like, we live for these games. This is our happiness for the next week, and you are the voice and the soundtrack of it. We would appreciate if you would maybe have a little bit of respect for that, I think, is where it all started, AJ.
Starting point is 01:16:36 I think that's how it all kind of started, you know? Yeah, you're right. People, yeah, they don't want to be, like, distracted from the game, maybe, I guess. They want Tony to add to the game. He came out of the gate so hot and took the world by storm, predicting plays and all of this stuff and everyone was losing their mind. That's hard to consistently do that.
Starting point is 01:16:54 I think we're seeing that right now. I think a lot of fans want him to respect the game as much as they do. Yeah, I could see that. I also wonder what he and Nance, what their relationship is like. I would imagine it's good but i don't know i would guess that nance isn't a huge fan of it because i think really i think he does well with him then if he does i think nance is he does do great true professional
Starting point is 01:17:13 yeah and he's not going to ever show anything because i've actually tried to think about that during the games i'm like all right let's try to get a sense here on if there's any bite here whenever jim sends it to tone you know if there's any tone says something Jim sends it to Tone, you know, if there's any – Tone says something and Jim just lets him die because a co-host can let somebody die. For sure. If somebody says something that doesn't necessarily make sense, like Herbie saved me a bunch on game day where I would say something that might not make sense and he would finish my point almost
Starting point is 01:17:38 and then go and I'm like, yeah, yeah, you know what I meant. Yeah, thank you for doing it. It's like save – that's part of the teamwork there. Felt like Jim always tried, I think, like, you know what i meant yeah thank you for doing this it's like save that's part of the teamwork there felt like jim always tried i think like you know i feel like there was always that type of thing publicly you can't tell if that's the case no definitely because i think jim is like a consummate like hey respect the game like respect my position here i need to be unbelievable but i think he is also the kind of guy who, you know, works tirelessly to prepare, make sure he knows his shit. And, like, you could kind of start to tell a little bit in the Bengals-Bills game when Tony was doing, you know, the way, way, way side. He did that, and Jim was like, wow, he almost got me to jump.
Starting point is 01:18:17 You know, like the way he was kind of, like. Well, Jim had his eyes on Pebble Beach, you know. Well, exactly. But, I mean, it just – and you also wondered contracts. You know, Tony – Jim Nance has been the guy he's called how many Final Fours? He calls the Masters every year. He's done Super Bowls. Every golf tournament.
Starting point is 01:18:34 Yeah, he does all this stuff. And then Tony comes in. He got re-upped too. He did, but I still don't know if he's making as much as Romo does. I'm not saying those guys pocket watch, but if he's making $18 million and then you're asking him questions and he's fucking choking on a mint and not responding to what you're saying it's like what the hell is going on here so it is it is fascinating thing about that because i don't know if media people view it the same way as like professional athletes and to say i'm a professional
Starting point is 01:18:59 athlete would be absurd but i was in a professional athletic building uh earning paychecks to be a professional so every person that makes more money is good for business you know tony romo coming in there is good for gymnasts with what he made cbs pay him ultimately i don't know if that's immediately seen by a lot of media types you know because there's been some things that I've had to kind of go through. And then the people on the other end are like, if we do that, then I'll have to deal with blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, well, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I should be pumped that that's happening because y'all motherfuckers have all the money and I am showcasing that. Like that is kind of how this is going.
Starting point is 01:19:44 Like, well, that's not how business is done. Well, we're not doing business then. Like, that is just. So you always need those people to potentially do it. But I do remember that being a part of the convo. Yeah. When Tony got his deal, Jim saying, I want that Romo money. It's like, oh, Jim saw that, felt that.
Starting point is 01:20:00 And I think Andrew Marchand in that same podcast, in that same clip where he was talking about the intervention that CBS did, not for the booze, but for his work ethic towards calling games. He said Nance's team, not Nance, but Nance's team was taking a lot of credit for Tony Romo. Saying, hey, we, Jim, is the reason why Tony Romo is Tony Romo. Jim is the reason why Tony Romo is Tony Romo. He said, haven't heard much from the Jim Nance team about Tony Romo's decline and not being Jim Nance being a part of it. Sound like Marshawn, not that big of a fan of Jim Nance in the clip that I heard. And they're going to have to deal with that. I'm not getting involved in either of those. I like both those dudes. So I'm staying out of it. But it is all fascinating how
Starting point is 01:20:39 the money can either affect people in two different ways. You either get jealous or you get excited about it because now you know what's available. And I think it's all just like situational. You know what I mean, AJ? Yeah, it's how you look at it. You're right. Nance, he re-upped right after Tony re-upped. Is that what happened? I think it was like a year later.
Starting point is 01:20:58 I think. Either way, yeah. He got whatever his contract is. It seems like he got a bump because he and Tony were the number one crew, and they were doing great. So, yeah, he's a big part of that. I understand him doing that. I don't know anything about Jim Nance.
Starting point is 01:21:11 I don't think I've ever met him, or I barely know Tony at all. But I know in the world of broadcasting and media, just like the world of professional athletes, there's a ton of egos all over the place as well. So I'm not saying Nance is like that or Tony or anything, but I just know as a whole, as a whole, there's a bunch of ego and there's a bunch of like,
Starting point is 01:21:28 oh, how's this guy get that game? And I got to call this garbage game. Like that happens all the time. Yeah, the amount of people that have talked shit about me and what I've been able to do, and then they're talking shit about me to people that I'm friends with. And those people are immediately telling me.
Starting point is 01:21:44 Immediately telling me. It's telling like you know people are jealous and insecure and it's just just like everything else in the world it's all it all happens but it's public i guess so people see it more yeah and i am believe me i got like 27 death threats whenever i was fucking 20 like i am hardened i'm cool with it but every single time i was told that i'm like can you tell them like this is good for you like you know hey this is good news this is not bad news and it's always like they would never understand you don't get it what these people are like and i'm like i don't i don't you're right i don't get what these people are like because if it's good for the goose it's good for the gander that's right hell yeah
Starting point is 01:22:20 i don't know if nance is really a diva. I don't think that's, but there are also reports that at the end of him and Phil Sims together that Nance soured on Phil Sims big time, and it was kind of like the same thing. Could see how that could happen. For sure. For sure. So you wonder if it's like, you know, I mean. Not with those two, just in general. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:22:40 People working together, you could see how, like any relationship, Tom Brady, Bill Belichick, Mike McCarthy, Aaron Rodgers. Anytime you have two people that are great at what they do working together, you can see how, like any relationship, Tom Brady, Bill Belichick, Mike McCarthy, Aaron Rodgers, anytime you have two people that are great at what they do working together, there's a chance that the novelty is going to wear off at some point, AJ. Absolutely. And when they're both being judged publicly by all these people that watch the games too, that plays a role in all of that as well. There's a lot of different dynamics going on here, especially when you get these big-time and big time money yeah it amplifies
Starting point is 01:23:08 everything yeah what we need to know is if you can get money from people that have a bunch of money go get it get the money yeah oh yeah i said it yesterday and and it's worthy of repeating. It must be fantastic to come from a place, you know, and I'm hoping that my kids will be able to do this, where it's like, oh, I pick and choose if I receive generational wealth changes, you know. Oh, how much? No, thank you. No, thank you. We do not understand each other, though, because I do not come from that place.
Starting point is 01:23:47 So I think what we all need to know is those who have the money, if we're working in a field, we should be trying to take and get them earn. Obviously, got to earn it. Not just going to get. If we can get that money out of it, let's do that. And let's continue to do that. money out of it, let's do that. Let's continue to do that. We hope Tony Romo has the capability to buy back in,
Starting point is 01:24:08 do his thing, because obviously he has the opportunity to be great and he also, I think, has the ability to be fucking great. The guy's incredible at basketball, incredible at golf, incredible at football. Whenever we heard him, whenever he was in his zone, in his bag, doing commentating, he was
Starting point is 01:24:23 unbelievable. Has the capability to be great at almost anything, I'd assume. Let's hope he invests some more time, and maybe this offseason is the time when he chooses to do that. And that's why CBS really doesn't have anyone to blame but themselves. So it's like if you're a person who watches the games and hates Tony Romo, like CBS was the one who, after two good or great years, they chose to give him that massive contract. So it's like, you know, I mean, you can't really fault him for accepting it.
Starting point is 01:24:50 You know, I mean, he's – say whatever you want about him, he enjoys himself when he's in the booth. Like, he has fun doing it. He does it his way. Wow. You know, I might say whatever the hell I want. These games are three, four hours. It's a long time.
Starting point is 01:25:06 You've got to make them entertaining and fun. He does it his way, and he is different than anyone else. So, I mean, in terms of that, I guess you have to respect it. Hell of a golfer, AJ. Fucking hell of a golfer. The dude, he prepares like a pro golfer. I think he plays like eight, ten hours, has coaches, all that stuff. Which a lot of people are saying, hey, you're making $18 million a year.
Starting point is 01:25:26 Why don't we spend that time fucking maybe learning the NFL of today? Well, he could still play golf every day, but only play for like five hours. And then go do – then you could prep, I guess. Get in the film room, Tony. Get in the film room. That's all. Don't watch highlights. Get in the film room.
Starting point is 01:25:40 I want to see what he's like next year. I want to see his first game back. Is he going to be all buttoned up and have a different voice and everything Be weird I don't know I think so He'll be Tony I don't think Tony's bothered by all this
Starting point is 01:25:51 I don't think he lives on the internet I don't think he's too worried about it Well obviously CBS flies in allegedly And he goes Why don't you guys get the fuck out of my house Golf coach Golf coach is coming over. Guys, I actually got to head to driving range.
Starting point is 01:26:07 Why don't you get the fuck out of here? He's also going to steal the show with his Super Bowl commercial, which might get a lot of people back on his side. Make a little ball track. It is a Caddyshack spoof, and it is good. The first 20 seconds that we saw on the internet.
Starting point is 01:26:23 Is this the one with Serena and other people in it? I don't know. I don't think Serena's going to be in this one. Yeah, they said it's coming again. Like February 12th, they were hyping their Super Bowl commercial. It was a spoof on Caddyshack. Okay. Nicolo Boltra?
Starting point is 01:26:35 Yeah. Then she might be. Okay. And if she is, this might be one of the greatest concepts in... They said Bushwood's opening back up. Bushwood's opening back up is what the commercial said. Okay, then I would assume so. Tony buying in full thespian into Caddy Shack.
Starting point is 01:26:51 Oh, you saw it. He is a good guy. I didn't see it. Saw like 50... It's in the group. It got sent in the... Okay. Literally, as soon as it got sent in the group, I think my response was yes.
Starting point is 01:26:58 Yep, this is unbelievable. Yes, this is... I'll check it out. Yeah, you are going to be in on it. You are 100% going to be in on it. Let's talk about some more stuff going on. Vic Fangio obviously signed with the Dolphins yesterday, three-year deal worth more than $4.5 million a year.
Starting point is 01:27:14 This is Ross, the owner, saying we need to invest in another probably top candidate, head coaching type candidate, and also take a lot off the plate of McDaniel. Let Vic just kind of be the head coach, almost on the defense side of the ball. McDaniel be the head coach of the offense side of the ball. And hopefully the end of the year drought that we experienced now to have got out of concussion after 39 days, concussion protocol for 39 days.
Starting point is 01:27:38 Congrats to him. I believe we're potentially talking to him next week. Not 100% sure. Excited for that convo. He will be at radio row. I think we're making it into his schedule, which is fantastic news. But this is a good hire. I think this is a great hire.
Starting point is 01:27:51 And that team, you know, if the offense can continue, this is the first year in McDaniels' offense. First year. First year Tyree Kill's there. Just how prolific they were at the beginning. They were the team. They were the story. is miami's back gumpy was uh grinning like the butcher's dog waking up six to midnight as soon as he saw anything dolphins i mean it was the time now you bring in not the mcdaniel needed it and i
Starting point is 01:28:19 don't want to make this look like mcdaniel was a child or anything like that but you bring in another adult into the room, Vic Fangio, not that the previous DC wasn't, but you get it. This guy, former head coach, obviously long-time established defensive mind, is a good hire. They're going to have to pay people like that, $4.5 million a year for an assistant coach job. Feels like Fangio won here.
Starting point is 01:28:40 Yeah, I'd say he was the bell of the ball, as they say, right? People like a lot of different teams wanted him. Now he runs like a specific 3-4 defense that you need to hopefully have the right players, and I think Miami obviously would not have brought him in if they felt like they didn't have the right roster for him. But talk to anybody that played in one of Fangio's defense, and they love the dude. It can take a minute to get everything down and figure everything out, but they all love the dude and think he's a genius.
Starting point is 01:29:04 And, I mean, they did just trade and pay for Bradley Chubb. So he's getting reunited with Vic Fangio. I mean, Fangio probably loved him. He drafted him very high. Good news. Yeah. And on the flip side, Vic Fangio is potentially going to the Niners. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:22 Steve Wilks, former interim head coach of the Carolina Panthers, obviously beloved by his players, will be interviewing for the D.C. job with the San Francisco 49ers after D'Amico Ryans heads to the Houston Texans to become their head coach. This is via Ian Rappaport. Atta baby, Ian. Atta baby, Ian. Getting his news.
Starting point is 01:29:42 Steve Wilks' defense will bode well with the San Francisco 49ers defense and personnel. A.J. Hawk, do you know? Yeah, I think any defense goes well with the roster they have on the defensive side of the ball. But I do not know who they may be losing to free agency or whatever. Do we know how many guys they may lose off that defense? Because they have studs everywhere you look. I don't know. The way George Kittle talked about the offense side, he said everybody's back.
Starting point is 01:30:04 Except for Christian McCaffrey, who's up. And I would imagine they're going to do whatever they can to reset him. And what does that mean? Does that mean a long-term deal? Does that mean a couple-year deal? What does that mean for them? Tone's looking it up right now. Jimmy Ward's a free agent. Manuel Mosley, who's the corner who got
Starting point is 01:30:19 hurt. Other than that, I think they're alright. Prime for another run if a quarterback can stay healthy. Who's the quarterback? We shall see. Will it be a vet like Derek Carr who balled out last night, AJ? There's a guy that climbed my trade for him board last night
Starting point is 01:30:36 quickly. Not only because he's slaying that pill incredibly. Hitting targets and beating everybody and getting a win for the AFC who's currently up 9-3. Each one of these events was worth three points. There was four events, including dodgeball, water balloon toss, jugs catch, quarterback carousel, 9-3.
Starting point is 01:30:56 Long drive. Long drive, so it must be more than that. That'd be five. Interesting. See, I like this kind of stuff. I still wish they were driving the golf carts, but I like this. Hey, some of those clips felt like some of those golf carts were working with some of those quarterbacks. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:10 Some are flying by. Some are in Rabbit. Some are just in Old Turtle. Yep. You know what I mean? Going at different speeds. I was at one where it broke down. Mid-round?
Starting point is 01:31:20 The ESPN Skills Challenge, whenever I was coming out of college, it was the day after the Senior Bowl in Mobile. I've told the ESPN Skills Challenge whenever I was coming out of college. It was the day after the Senior Bowl in Mobile. I've told the story. I missed the flight out of Mobile to Orlando to do the Skills Challenge. I get there, obviously trying to catch up with all the rules and everything, and the quarterbacks, the golf cart broke down in the middle of it. It was awesome. Just sat there. The one quarterback that was up was just pegging it. Boom, boom, boom,
Starting point is 01:31:46 boom, boom. Because that's what competitive people do. And I think that's what you got to see out of the Pro Bowl games last night. Competitive juices fly. In the middle of that dodgeball, they were tweaking the rules, cheating the rules. There was once only two balls available for a certain stage of dodgeball. Ended up being six in there because all the teammates
Starting point is 01:32:02 were just kicking them in. Hey, hey, hey, hey. That's what you're going to get whenever you get some of the most competitive dudes on earth competing in different things. I enjoyed it. But Derek Carr throwing the ball and then the way he handled it afterwards. I don't know if you've heard the video yet or the interview. Here's Derek Carr after putting on a show and lighting up the quarterback carnival last night to win one for the AFC. No fire. Have you ever been that hot in Las Vegas? Not that hot.
Starting point is 01:32:26 That's probably why I'm going somewhere else. Get it? Hey, you get it. Great question by Ryan Clark. The NFL Live crew was all over that thing last night. All over it, on the ground. Dan Rolovsky was at a driving range. Ryan Clark had a microphone. Swagu, RG3, Laura, and Mina was there.
Starting point is 01:32:44 Mina was not initially marketed to be there. The NFL Live crew was running rampant all over it. Good to see them out there. But did you like that at Derek Carr? I loved it. I love the fact that he addressed it, AJ. Yeah, I like it. I think it's good. He's handling it the right way. He's not hiding from it. He's not running.
Starting point is 01:33:00 And all I could think of, though, whenever I hear him speak is Ty doing his post-game presser from the week that was. I'm happy we saw this instead of that. Because a lot of people were judging him strictly off of that. And then also him kind of getting kicked out of the building towards the end. Wild series of events for him. I think last night was a great one. Excited to see what Sunday brings.
Starting point is 01:33:20 And joining us now is a man that just rattled the entire NBA universe. And joining us now is a man that just rattled the entire NBA universe. He's the Riz God because all he does is say incredibly, handsomely, smoothly delivered lines when he joins Kay Adams on Up and Adams on FanDuel TV. Ladies and gentlemen, a man who works for FanDuel Stadium and The Athletic, senior NBA insider everywhere, ladies and gentlemen, Sean Schrodinger. Howdy, babyaron happy to be back happy to be back i'm sorry i had to interrupt the nfl super bowl prelude i i i strongly apologize for this no you do not need to apologize this is what sean sharonia does he comes in and changes the game you think you have all the answers he changes the question here we
Starting point is 01:34:03 are in the middle of a little bit of a dry time in the nfl and sham sharoni said what's that oh that's opportunity ladies and gentlemen sham sharoni just reported about 10 minutes ago kairi irving has officially requested a trade from the brooklyn nets the franchise has been informed that irving prefers to move on ahead of the february 9th trade, or will leave in free agency in July. It is February 3rd. We have six days to deal this guy. This is massive news because it involves Kyrie Irving. It involves Kevin Durant, seemingly.
Starting point is 01:34:34 It involves the Brooklyn Nets. And it's six days before the trade deadline. How did we get here, and what does this mean for Kyrie Irving going forward? Sham Sharan. Yeah, this is really stunning. When you think about what's happened over the last year uh with kairi irving in the nets it doesn't really surprise why it might have might have gotten here right you think about the summer we talked about kairi irving last season all year the vaccine situation that was going on between him and the nets him having to stay away from the
Starting point is 01:34:59 team then they bring him back and then over the, they have a contract dispute, are not able to come to an agreement. He opts in, plays out the year, tweets out a link to a movie with anti-Semitic material in it. It gets picked up. The owner tweets about it, shoots it down. He gets suspended after that. He serves an eight-game suspension. And then he comes back, Pat, the last two months of the season. He's averaged almost 30 points a game, six, seven assists, five rebounds. He's showing again why he's that dude, right? And he's the all-star game starter in the Eastern Conference. So he's back. And what's happened in the last week or so is I'm told they've had contract extension negotiations. And what I'm told, a contract extension was offered to Irving that had some stipulations in it. And I'm told his side was vehemently against any stipulations in an extension.
Starting point is 01:35:52 He believes that he deserved a fully guaranteed contract. He feels like a player of his caliber did not deserve or should have stipulations in that deal. And so when you think about everything that happened last summer, you think about this year, there's clearly a principle difference between Irving and the Nets. And whatever his principles are, whatever the Nets principles are, they just clearly do not align. And I think this is groundbreaking news for the NBA six days before the deadline
Starting point is 01:36:20 because Kyrie Irving is one of the best players in the league on one of the best teams in the league. The Nets have gone from outside of the playoff picture struggle to start the year under 500 then they go and win 18 of 20 games then KD gets hurt but they're still treading water this is a team that's battling for home home court advantage they're competing for a championship and now their best player has demanded a trade is expecting to be traded before the trade deadline otherwise he will leave in free agency. Best current player playing with KD being hurt, obviously, is what you meant, I assume, or no?
Starting point is 01:36:52 I don't even remember what I said. I said he's been one of the best players, no? No, you said their best player. You mean currently playing. Technically, yeah, technically currently their best player. Got it, got it, got it, got it. Kevin Durant's out. Kevin Durant is, yeah, he's number one.
Starting point is 01:37:05 Okay, good. I didn't know if, because I haven't been keeping up with the NBA as much, I didn't know if that Kevin Durant thing has changed. And if it has, I was about to go to bat and be like, nope, guy's a dog, always will be a dog. Spokes hella dope, love everything about him, can shoot everywhere. So they disrespected him in business negotiations, it sounds like, yes? Yeah, so they've recently had negotiations.
Starting point is 01:37:24 But honestly, Pat, I think this goes deeper than just the contract extension. I think, listen, if they had come in with a full maximum contract, then maybe you give it some thought, right? At that point, you're getting your full max deal. How do you say no to that? But I think the fact that whatever offer was made, I'm told had some stipulations in it, stipulations that he believes he did not deserve and does not deserve. So the entire organization right now just puts it up in the air. Where does this leave Kevin Durant? He has three years left on a maximum contract extension. Where does this leave him? Does this impact his future, trying to get out of Brooklyn? Does he
Starting point is 01:38:05 stay in Brooklyn? Do the Nets trade Kyrie Irving? Do they just keep Kyrie Irving and deal with the outcome afterward? What's crazy is this literally happened to the Nets last year. James Harden, it started to come to the surface that they would discuss a deal with the Sixers the Friday before the trade deadline. We're in the same situation here now with Kyrie Irving demanding a trade, and we'll see if the Nets will negotiate a trade. But listen, everyone wants to talk about the Lakers. You know, they're being very active in the trade. Where's Kyrie going?
Starting point is 01:38:35 I think the Lakers are being very active for a trade, just overall in the marketplace. When you look at Russell Westbrook, you look at their two first round picks is that enough for kairi irving uh do the lakers make that offer i think that's something that will be have to track between now and next thursday what was it last week we saw him go out early in the game against lakers and he saw russell westbrook shouldn't he say new greatness would be here early and then he's been talking about lebron a lot is this something that you could have forecasted you think kairi knew this was potentially coming if they weren't able to agree on a long-term deal? Because business-wise for the Nets, if you were to trade him right now,
Starting point is 01:39:12 obviously you're sacrificing this year, which has been a year where you're on a run, and we know you just got a call. We assume that's probably Adam Silver or a team telling you that we are going to sign him. But they can get something out of him now, right, as opposed to just losing him in free agency. That's kind of what the Nets have to deal with right now. And if it's not the Lakers, who else could it potentially be, Shams? Yeah, there were definitely talks on a deal. And there's definitely a world where, listen, everything has been fine over the last eight months with the Nets.
Starting point is 01:39:42 And over the summer last summer, the Nets had chances to re-sign Kyrie Irving on a deal that was suitable for both sides. They were not able to reach an agreement. And I think now it puts the Nets in a position where they need to determine between now and next Thursday, do they want to keep a guy in Kyrie Irving who does not want to be there, does not want to play there, wants to play somewhere else very clearly, and has beyond just contractual issues, it seems a very principled issue with that organization, as they might with him. What do they do with him?
Starting point is 01:40:12 He's been so productive on the floor over the last two months. I think it's a question around the league. What will the Nets do with Kyrie Irving? You trade him now, you can go recoup some assets. You can go to a team like the Lakers, get picks. There are going to be teams out there that are going to go for kairi irving who i'm told they're they're going to be multiple teams involved pacers uh i would not expect the paces i think kairi's haliburton is that dude for your oh yeah put them together yeah i don't know i don't they probably play the same position i have no clue
Starting point is 01:40:41 haven't seen the pacers a long time no they lost they lost to LeBron last night, but put up a good fight. Number zero is a dog. Mitt, who's a Lakers fan, just lost his mind. Actually bruised his dick off the bottom of the desk whenever he said he was potentially going there. AJ has a question for you, Shams. Shams, do you have any idea what those stipulations may be that the Nets wanted to put in his contract?
Starting point is 01:41:00 And also, would a trade partner try to put some stipulations in a contract for Kyrie? Yeah. I mean, those are negotiations for probably after the trade. Like, you know, let's say he gets traded to a team. That team would then be allowed to negotiate an extension. Or the Nets, you know, give permission to Kyrie Irving to talk to other teams, discuss extension opportunities. That's probably where we would figure out what exactly, you know, what those teams would be able to offer. But, yeah, the Nets had stipulations as far as guarantees and how much, you know, the deal would be guaranteed in the last year of his deal.
Starting point is 01:41:38 Not quite sure exactly the length of the contract, but a multi-year extension was offered to Irving. And there were stipulations in the final year of the deal that, you know, clearly didn't make it fully guaranteed. So, like, the last year will be fully guaranteed if you get, like, the flu vaccine? That's not what— Oh, okay. I think that's, like, your question. I was just going to ask this question. No, I mean, those things tend to be, you know, could be games played, could be how far the team goes in the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:42:02 It could be, you know, a variety of minutes uh oh god so just business stuff basically just yeah just not not off the court like tweeting they wouldn't be like hey you can't that's they're trying to muzzle him that's what i would assume he thinks hey you're trying to like box me and not let me be me now things might be said indirectly that i can't account for but you know an n contract, the only things you can stipulate, games played, minutes, stats, how far a team goes, team success, those are usually the tidbits you can have. So in our world, if this type of thing was to happen, and I assume there's been situations where it hasn't, but the long-term deal is pretty much already agreed upon when the trade takes place. You said after the trade, they'll talk about the long-term deal. That would have to become at the same time or no? Kyrie's not going somewhere just for the rest of the season, become a free agent, or does
Starting point is 01:42:52 that happen in the NBA world? You're saying does he become a free agent at the end of the season? Yeah. So is he going to get traded to a place that there isn't a long-term agreement already understood to be taking place? Or is it just like a loner for a season? Would they do that with Kyrie in the NBA, a player that's at that level? You would assume the teams that's trading for Kyrie Irving, they're going to want to resign him for long-term.
Starting point is 01:43:16 So whether it's the Lakers or whoever, if you're going to go trade for Kyrie Irving, your goal and your intent is to bring him in for the long-term. You could trade for him and then reach an extension agreement or you can wait for the summertime that's usually what teams want but I mean the way Kyrie Irving has played over the last two months you would think that there's going to be interest I think from teams outside of you know maybe even the team that he would be comfortable with you know like a team that might feel like he can take them over the top we'll see if that happens or not who are other than the L, I know you're going to be very busy, and we appreciate you taking time.
Starting point is 01:43:46 Boom, right there. You have a lot going on. Other than the Lakers, who are some potential landing spots, you think, Shams? For right now, the only one I have that you could look at, and we looked at over the summer, we looked at this past year. I mean, I would assume the Lakers. We'll see how that takes place. But, Pat, you know, I'll let you guys know.
Starting point is 01:44:09 What about those? Hey, you're the man. You had 21,000 retweets in the first minute of this tweet. What a story. What a get. Incredible work by you, pal. We appreciate the hell out of you. I'm trying to put up Pat numbers right now.
Starting point is 01:44:22 That's what I'm trying to do. Oh, you're doing more than that. You're Riz God, right now That's what I'm trying to do You're doing more than that You're Riz God We don't even have time to dive into your game That you're spitting all over television Every time you get on there We appreciate the hell out of your hard work Thank you
Starting point is 01:44:35 Alright Lock it up Look at this AD's back. We're getting Kyrie. LeBron's all the way back. Let's go. Championship.
Starting point is 01:44:49 Book it now. Yeah, Mitt's a full fuckboy. Likes the Cowboys. Likes the Lakers. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I texted my dad last night. Picture me at the Lakers game.
Starting point is 01:44:59 He texted me back super pumped. I didn't even know this. My dad's also a Dodgers fan. How hilarious. Oh, I'm out there. Wow. That is surprising, actually. I didn't even know this. My dad's also a Dodgers fan. How hilarious. Oh, I'm out there. Wow. That is surprising, actually. I didn't know that was the case.
Starting point is 01:45:09 Maybe he's just trying to relate to his son here. Maybe. How did you become a Lakers fan? Just because they're on TV at night? That's why I was a Lakers fan, because they were the only thing on TV late night when I was growing up. Shoot, my dad is a Lakers-Cowboys fan because he grew up in Montana. They have nothing to watch. They were only watching Magic Johnson and Troy
Starting point is 01:45:25 Aikman at the time and just kind of circled that. And then when my dad started coaching in the NFL, he kind of stopped really doing that whole NFL thing. And then Kobe Bryant was also winning championships. So he was always watching
Starting point is 01:45:44 Kobe Bryant. I would watch Kobe Bryant games with him championships. So, like, he was always watching Kobe Bryant. I would watch Kobe Bryant games with him. Those late-night Kobe Bryant games with Shaq were awesome growing up. Pittsburgh has no NBA team, shitty baseball team, no NBA team. So it's either hockey or football for, you know, most people. Tony Diggs is a mark for the Pittsburgh Pirates because he played baseball as a child and was very good at it so he feels obligated like the Pirates and going to a Pirates game is a good time but those late night Lakers like that was I didn't sleep well never have never will that was awesome to watch and take place and they were so damn good it was like their own time slot almost for all of
Starting point is 01:46:18 America I think created a lot of Lakers fans and obviously LeBron James just a couple weeks ago put up 40 and was the most miserable human being in an entire arena straddled wide legs wide open just exhausted and pissed about what his life has become as a Laker there was a ball that almost hit him in the face he didn't even budge just so fucking over everything and uh if they were to bring in Kyrie does that make him a competitor Does that make you guys great all of a sudden? Oh, yeah. Dude, they have no point guard on the team basically at this point. Russell Westbrook. I mean, Russell Westbrook doesn't even start.
Starting point is 01:46:52 He comes off the bench as a point guard. Austin Reeves. Austin Reeves is not playing right now. He's hurt. So, I mean, LeBron's their point guard. He has no help. Pat Bev missed two free throws that would have basically sealed the game last night. Then LeBron's face was absolutely hysterical.
Starting point is 01:47:09 Oh, you got to see it because you were there. Yeah, it was absolutely hysterical. He looked like the way that you just described. He looked like he was going to cry. And then AD played some amazing defense. What's he crying about these calls all about? Because he's getting hacked. He loves drama.
Starting point is 01:47:24 Oh, you guys spinning your? Because he's getting hacked. He loves drama. You guys spinning your narrative. He's getting hacked. Thank you, man. He needs to get his call. Guy needs to get calls for once. Dude, that was game winner in Boston. That's a fucking... And he got whacked.
Starting point is 01:47:40 The only thing it showed me is he's still in. Like, still invested. Very much so. Very much so. We talked about that with Ken Dorsey when he lost his fucking shit when he lost to the Dolphins at the beginning of the season. And, you know, there's people saying he's going to have to carry that around with him forever. That was actually being said. What an embarrassment. What was our reaction?
Starting point is 01:47:58 Hey, guys, very much invested. Very much invested in this whole thing. I think a lot of people saw that in Bron Bron whenever he was doing that. It was a lot. It was. But he said, you know, I'm watching every game. Nobody else is getting treated like this. Because everybody just says Bron gets all the calls.
Starting point is 01:48:13 Bron gets this. Bron gets that. That was very clearly not. Now, Connor, who's a Celtics fan, I'm from Boston, he said, well, are we going to call him taking seven steps before that layup? Or what all are we going to talk? I'm like, well, it from Boston. He said, well, are we going to call him taking seven steps before that layup, or what all are we going to talk? I'm like, well, it's NBA. Do they even call that? He'd go, do they call that? I don't know. Conor could spin his way out of this whole thing. LeBron very much still invested, and I think he would view his time as a Laker not as successful
Starting point is 01:48:39 as every other big star that has been traded for by the Lakers. I learned that from the Shaq documentary that I watched, how this is the Lakers' thing. It's almost like a passing of the torch to a star. Hey, you are now in charge of the Lakers' franchise. Do well with it. And that's how Shaq viewed it. Obviously, that's how Magic viewed it.
Starting point is 01:48:57 That's how Kobe definitely viewed it. Before that, though, there was Kareem. Yeah. Jamesworthy. Yeah. Jamesworthy. Yeah, Jerry West. That's kind of how it's viewed. And I think LeBron, who is obviously somebody that has just loved the game and been immersed by the game his whole life, took that very heavily,
Starting point is 01:49:14 and his summer name was not real there. Some name was not real there, I don't think. Foxy's face, okay. He won that bubble championship. Right. But other than that, he had the wine year where he's showing up drunk yep he let the ball roll out of bounds and then there's this year where he seemingly just has no help other years he has no help so i think that probably weighs a little
Starting point is 01:49:34 heavy on braun braun so bringing in a guy that he was able to win with in the past who kairi has admitted that he wishes he was able to play with braun now as opposed to how he when he what he was like back then would be a whole different ballgame. Maybe we'll get to see it. It seems like Shams has no other teams that are even in contention. This is all part of the script, boys. What date did Kyrie have to get traded by? February 9th.
Starting point is 01:50:00 Oh, and the next Lakers primetime game against the Bucs is February 9th, the day that LeBron is supposed to break the points record. Oh, part of the script. And on Michael Jordan day. Come on. Let's go. See, the NBA I could actually see. Well, Tim Donahue's come out instead.
Starting point is 01:50:21 I ain't the only one. Two. I didn't the only one. Two. I didn't even touch him. Shooting two. Yep. That has been a... We've got about 15 more points we need to get. So we've got 45 seconds to do that.
Starting point is 01:50:33 Yep. Bam. Shooting two. You did it. Hell yeah. What'd you do? You got fouled. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:50:40 Shoot ball. Oh, you missed. Reshot lane violation. Shoot another one. Bumped him. Saw him. Yeah. Tack. Get the ball back. Yep. Shooting two. Yep. Lane violation. Need to shoot that one again. You fucking creeped in there. Look. Watch it. Look at your toe. Thought so. Shooting two. Oh, you're talking back. Tack. Shoot two more. You're ejected. You're good at defense. Get him off the fucking court.
Starting point is 01:51:07 You, big foul guy, need you good. Yep. Shoot two. That's what fucking basketball is. You know, so I could see how that would be, you know. And Tim Donahue proved he was. He's done a lot of damage to the NBA. Yeah. His name had a big week this week.
Starting point is 01:51:24 I will watch the NBA, though, whenever it matters. Sure. Later. For sure. And I think everybody would watch if Kyrie and Bron Bron were to get back together. Because Kyrie obviously has his own individual way of doing life. Yep. I think that's a good way to describe it.
Starting point is 01:51:45 Absolutely. Boy, he gives that basketball in his hands. Oh, baby. He said, I think I was listening to him. He said he matches up his dribbling with his feet. I think that's something that not a lot of people do. Some people have handles, but his body movement is what he thinks he has over others. Fuck. He's a freak.
Starting point is 01:52:04 I've seen some of his games recently. They've been on National. They just pop up and I just watch him and he is an absolute freak. How he moves, everything is just so... It's ridiculous. What did Kevin Durant do? No idea. I don't know. No, no. I'm saying like...
Starting point is 01:52:20 You know what sucks? That there's no more Kyrie's because Nike dropped him. Kyrie's were some of the best basketball shoes there was. Yeah. The Kyries were getting pushed actually the most by Nike. What shoes did I like? The Greek Freak had some, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:33 To be honest, they're called the Freaks. Those ones were comfy. Yeah. I think the most comfy. Paul George had great shoes too. Those are still good. KDs and Kyries are legit. That's like a lot of the girls that I coach wear.
Starting point is 01:52:44 Oh, KD has those little Under the balls of the feet It feels like there's an actual air bubble Those are really nice The zooms? Is that what they're called? I mean the zoom air yeah This dude knows
Starting point is 01:52:56 He knows everything I'll come in with a new pair of shoes that I bought Just because I seen them And then Oh the Cherry High 11's Oh my god the K Candy Stripe 13s. Dude, the A-I-O-U's, bro. It's unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:53:10 Alright, thanks to Shams for joining us there and giving us some breaking news. That's fantastic news out of the NBA world. Does it matter? Not so after the Super Bowl, but good luck to all parties. Yeah, they're only showing Lakers and LeBron James highlights on ESPN right now. Go get
Starting point is 01:53:26 them. Genie, go get them. Go get them, Genie. Go get them. Come on, Genie. Need Genie and Jay Moore to get on the horn. Bring Kyrie Irving in. Didn't they make a move recently that Shaq was disgusted by? Yeah, they traded in somebody. You say, I don't know who that motherfucker is.
Starting point is 01:53:42 He's a dog. He's actually a dog. Well, what's Shaq talking about? I don't believe. He's a dog. He's actually a dog. Well, what's Shaq talking about? I don't know. He's a starter. He's their starting three. They needed him. Shaq said, if you're not in the top ten, I don't know who you are. Perfect guy to package to go get Kyrie.
Starting point is 01:53:53 I'm completely fine with that. Package him. Package Rush. I don't give a shit. The collapse is going to be so much sweeter this year. Oh. Oh, you're talking about the Lakers? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:03 Well. Don't do that. This guy's having a good day. It's time to enjoy it. Hey, congrats, man. Way to go, man. Come on. Hey, congr about the Lakers? Yeah. Well, this guy's having a good day. Let's let him enjoy it. Hey, congrats, man. Way to go, man. Come on. Hey, congrats, Lakers fans.
Starting point is 01:54:10 You know, a lot of people are really happy for you guys all the time because of how good you guys have been and your type of fandom and stuff like that. But it seems like you're about to get an electrifying player back into the building. I can't wait to see his handles over there in the crypto.com center. Oh, yeah. That's still Staples. Well, is it? No. Did they take his handles over there in the crypto.com center oh yeah that's still staples well is it no they take it down it's technically crypto as of this year but they still got cash for that they're gonna have to they're gonna have to change that next year so just so talk to me as if i am a doofus everything in that world is done i don't think so because i
Starting point is 01:54:42 just saw well yeah ftx definitely is is I recently saw a Bloomberg article that said there was a brand new crypto startup that just got a whole bunch of money to get going they're not letting it die so the crypto.com arena, the crypt will still remain? I mean Staples
Starting point is 01:54:59 I don't know talk business and crypto go Lakers joining us now I don't know. Talking business and crypto. Come on. Go Lakers. Go Lakers. Go Lakers. Lakers and shoes. Joining us now is a man who is a great businessman, I do believe, because last year he was the assistant.
Starting point is 01:55:15 This year he is the tournament chairman of Waste Management. Next week out there in Phoenix. We can't thank him enough for joining us and also can't wish him enough luck as the event that is going simultaneously alongside Super Bowl week in the same exact city should be spectacular. Every time you watch it, you think to yourself,
Starting point is 01:55:35 that's a cool golf tournament. The man who's in charge of it, ladies and gentlemen, Pat Williams. Yeah, Patty! Patty, what's going on, pal? What an intro, thank you. Hey, congratulations on being the chairman. First year.
Starting point is 01:55:50 Appreciate it. I'm out here right now. You guys see the view? Yeah. So what is that? Is that 16 there or what is that? Yeah, you're looking at 16. So tomorrow night, we kick off our tournament week tomorrow on Saturday.
Starting point is 01:56:01 So we turn the venue into a concert venue. We'll have Maroon 5 out here tomorrow night to kick it off in front of a full house. And then we tear it down tomorrow night and the players will be out here starting Monday. Maroon 5 is out there tomorrow? I think that's a good play by you, Pat, in your first year as the chairman,
Starting point is 01:56:22 getting Adam's sexy-ass Levine out there. What's the song? What's one of their? This love has taken its toll on me. She said goodbye too many times before. That's going to be right out there, the stadium hole. Congrats on that. We can't thank you enough for joining us on this glorious day.
Starting point is 01:56:44 We can't wait to come to your city next week, and we hope you do a fantastic job, pal. Yeah, I mean, we're excited. We've got obviously the Phoenix Open is well attended every year, but with the Super Bowl here, we're going to get people like yourselves out. Have you guys been to the tournament? No.
Starting point is 01:57:01 You're coming, right? Well, I do believe. I think that is the case. Are we? I think you're coming. We've got a bunch of great things planned. We've got, we're going to kick off Wednesday with our Celebrity Pro-Am. And on this same hole, after the Pro-Am, we have what we call the Shot of Glory.
Starting point is 01:57:18 It's kind of our, it's our opening ceremonies, if you will. And we raise money for charity. And we want you, Pat, to be one of our celebrity hitters. You're going to hit a shot in front of about 20,000 people right here on Wednesday. Okay! Thank you for the invite. I would love to do that. I mean, that would be a blast.
Starting point is 01:57:37 Nope. Go ahead. We want a little action inside on the team. We want AJ to hit a shot, too, if he's going to be out there. Hey! Yeah, how far you got over there? Smart. This is good.
Starting point is 01:57:50 That shot for you guys on Wednesday will be about a 125-year shot. So the pros hit a little farther. You'll hit about 125. The hard part is you're hitting in front of 20,000 people. Okay, so we got to be able to. Nothing you guys can't handle. Well, we'll see i've seen one shot you get one shot one ball you get one shot and if you're in the top three we'll
Starting point is 01:58:09 have about 30 hitters and if you're in the top three uh we we send uh fifteen thousand dollars to number third place charity of choice 25 per second and that's amazing and i heard it's from the thunderbirds is that the organization that runs this whole thing that you're a part of, or what is the Thunderbirds? Yeah, that's the host organization. We're a volunteer group here in Phoenix, and we've done it for 88 years out here and raised a bunch of money for charity. Put on the tournament.
Starting point is 01:58:35 Hey, we can't wait to meet you. We appreciate the invite. One shot, huh? One shot. One shot. It's going to be fun. It's easy. There's music. There's. It's going to be fun. There's it's easy. There's music. There's entertainment.
Starting point is 01:58:46 But you guys, you know, AJ can smoke a cigar. There's a lot of people having fun. It's all it's all. It's all for charity. Hey, you got it. We can't thank you enough for the invitation. We can't wait to meet you next week. And good luck the rest of the way as chairman, pal.
Starting point is 01:59:00 Guys, thanks for having me on. We look forward to seeing you next week. Love the show. Hey, thank you, man. Ladies and gentlemen, Pat Williams. Hey! I think it was windy there. He's just trying to give us a shot.
Starting point is 01:59:10 A little bit breezy there, trying to give us a shot. That's sweet, though. AJ, 125, baby. I'm taking that P. What's that for you? That's like a 60 for you. No, I would never use a 60. I don't like 60s, but I don't know.
Starting point is 01:59:20 I mean, whatever clubs they have there, I'm not bringing anything. Oh, get him back on the horn. Get him back on the horn. Get him back on the horn. I'll tell you what. One shot's tough. I watched the hole-in-one thing in Tahoe. I watched Steph Curry top one 10 feet. I mean, Steph is an unbelievable golfer.
Starting point is 01:59:34 It can happen. Yeah, of course it can happen. They got a net for you to hit into before? Small ball. Small ball. You don't need to warm up. Small club head. Are you going to hit off the ground, or are you going to put on a tee? That's the other question. I don't need to warm up. Small club head. Are you going to hit off the ground
Starting point is 01:59:45 or are you going to put on a tee? That's the other question. I don't know. He's back. Hey, Pat. Yeah. Hey, do we have clubs? I'm here.
Starting point is 01:59:51 Do you have clubs out there that we'll be able to, will we just use somebody's clubs or how will that work? No, no. They'll have clubs for you. I mean, if you have a special request, you let us know.
Starting point is 01:59:59 But there's clubs. They've got the whole thing. Okay, sweet. You'll be ready to go. All right. Thank you. I didn't. All right.
Starting point is 02:00:04 Good. Ladies and gentlemen, Pat Williams. All right. Thank you. I didn't. All right. Good. Ladies and gentlemen, all right. So we'll just use somebody's clubs. I'm getting that Pete one shot. Should open it up to two. Smooth. A little smooth pitch and wedge.
Starting point is 02:00:14 Two would be nice. That's what the program did. Well, that was three. Yeah, they got three. They got three. The hole in one challenge over here on Pebble Beach was three,
Starting point is 02:00:22 but I guess that's why it's called shot of glory. Like, yeah. And I guess I bet you the tension is. Oh yeah, get all juiced up. We're going to be coming straight from the show at Radio Row, right over there. Straight into the fucking batter's
Starting point is 02:00:36 box, right? Welcome to the Thunderdome. I'm going to be so high. Just a little heads up. Probably good. Arizona, very legal over there some of the greatest two legal weed if you get a chance to travel to Arizona a Montana another place great tree it's legal there some of the best that I've ever had I've got a chance to try like every state almost now at this point that's legal because can't smoke in indiana so anytime i travel which is was weekly there for like 13 14 months straight anytime i ended up in
Starting point is 02:01:11 a state where it was legal it's like all right well before we get there we need to and then we'll head over arizona has the best laws and i'd say top two tree okay out of the legal places that i've tried now i i haven't tried every single strain from every single uh state so people attack me for that but i will be coming in there on cloud 50 imagine we fucking hole it one of us oh my god do we have to make it uh just close to the money close to the pin i think we don't we gotta make it to win the money? Closest to the pin, I think. We got to make it. One of us needs to go in. Bingo. Why not us?
Starting point is 02:01:49 Yeah, we're pin seeking. We don't care about closest to the pin. What a cool invite. Yeah, that's awesome. That was pretty sweet. Just going there will be cool. Just seeing it. I've never seen it.
Starting point is 02:01:59 Remember, we had to act like we hadn't heard it before. Right. I think you did a pretty good job. I think we did good. People are going to think that we are definitely still in on the old NFL conspiracy with how good we played that off. Yeah, maybe. Do you know how good of actors players would have to be? Oh, boy.
Starting point is 02:02:13 Put them right in there next to fucking Leo. Tell you what, the players have had a good time this week. Oh, yeah. Specy. Tweeting about it. I've enjoyed that quite a bit. You know what? Joining us now is the man who had the fastest vote in the history of the Hall of Fame,
Starting point is 02:02:28 a man who I was lucky enough to be teammates with, a man that the world was lucky enough to watch play football. And this weekend, you will get to see him coach the AFC Pro Bowl squad. Ladies and gentlemen, the founder of Omaha Productions, Peyton Mayer. Yeah! What's up, boss? Thanks for that intro, Peyton. How you doing, pal?
Starting point is 02:02:48 I'm doing better than your service. AJ, look how good this guy looks. Peyton, you're out at the Pro Bowl. Thank you for making time. You have a good lead over Eli right now. What was the message to the boys today at practice and what are we thinking about going into the flag football games on Sunday? The message was just finished.
Starting point is 02:03:10 Obviously right now is when the players' bar bills begin to add up. That's a lot of food. It's a lot of room service. A lot of cold beverages. And so the winning team makes more money than the losing team. I went to Tennessee. I'm not that smart, but the math is simple. If we win, team makes more money than the losing team. I went to Tennessee.
Starting point is 02:03:25 I'm not that smart, but the math is simple. If we win, we get more money to pay for our hotel bill. That was my message. Hell yeah. Go ahead, AJ. There you go, Peyton. On Sunday, what's the plan? Are you going to have wristbands on your guys with 700 plays like you do for your little son's team that you coach?
Starting point is 02:03:42 Definitely have wristbands, AJ, because the amount of studying that's going to take place by my receivers these next couple of days is going to be limited. So not only do I have wristbands with the plays, I have the actual drawings of the plays on the wristband. So it's literally going to be play 10. Tyreek Hill can look down. He knows exactly what to do. play 10, Tyreek Hill can look now. He knows exactly what to do. Expect Tyreek Hill to get the ball a lot. There's something about him getting his flag pulled doesn't seem very likely to me.
Starting point is 02:04:15 So look for a lot of Tyreek Hill on Sunday. Well, let's not give away the gameplay. Eli's watching, obviously. Eli is thinking about how he's going to be able to stop that. You guys had a big night last night. You've always been a massive proponent of the Pro Bowl. You know, like I remember coming into the league and hearing the stories about it out in Hawaii and at the pool and how the whole everybody's there. And it's like this buy-in.
Starting point is 02:04:36 And back in the day with the quarterback challenge and with everything that it used to be and how high it was held in regards. And you getting back into it here, coaching alongside your brother, and obviously you guys are incredibly entertaining in faces of the NFL, and the Monday Night Manning was awesome. But this feels a little bit deeper to you. I heard you recruiting players to come play in the Pro Bowl. What would it mean to get the Pro Bowl back to what it once was?
Starting point is 02:04:57 And do you think that's possible in the modern era right now, Peyton, or no? Pat, with how we're doing it, look, the All-Star game and the NBA is coming up. You heard stories about Bird and Magic and Michael and Isaiah Thomas, right? The Major League Baseball All-Star game. The young
Starting point is 02:05:17 Willie Mays or Ted Williams playing the All-Star game. It'd be a shame if all the other sports get to have a weekend where the best players in that sport gather in one setting, it'd be a shame if all the other sports get to have a weekend where the best players in that sport gather in one setting. It'd be a shame if football was the only sport not to have that. It'd be an absolute tragedy. So it's important that the best players in the world are all together in one setting
Starting point is 02:05:37 to celebrate their success, their incredible seasons, to talk about how to keep the game strong and to make it better. seasons to talk about how to keep the game strong and to make it better. I can remember the Pro Bowl, Pat, when I watched a Lydalian Tomlinson spend time with a young Adrian Peterson and say, hey, here's how you need to train. Here's how you stay great, right? A Ray Lewis spending time with a young Patrick Willis. I think there's real value in that. And to get away from that would be really a shame. So it's fun now. It's a flag game. You know, everybody's in a good mood. It's going to
Starting point is 02:06:10 be fun. It's going to be high energy. I agreed the tackle game needed to go, but the participation has been great. Obviously, we got injuries. We got guys playing in the Super Bowl. Those are good reasons not to be here. But the guys that are here are fired up. How about last night? What was your first takeaway? I think they're trying everything right now to kind of keep the Pro Bowl games up and running. I don't think everything's going to survive year to year. But after one night of kind of participating, what were your thoughts? Well, I mean, the dodgeball kind of takes the cake. I mean, just seeing, you know, Double D for the Saints hit Saquon Barkley in the face, right?
Starting point is 02:06:47 I can't figure out how my face is supposed to stay on this screen. There we go. To see Saquon being so elusive, right? To see Christian McCaffrey just sort of floating out there with the ball. You see the athleticism. You know, the golf was awesome to see Jordan Poyer get up there and drill a 320-yard drive with a couple seconds left. So look, competitors are still going to show up in the key moments. I agree. Certain events might not make it. A car basically told all the
Starting point is 02:07:21 NFL, bring me on your team. I can still throw. I can play. He's in full, like, tryout mode. That's why I like our chances for the AFC. Yeah, and Tyler Huntley came out and threw the thing around too. He's hurt a lot of people. He's got a lot of chips on shoulders over there in the roster. Might bode well for the flag football on Sunday that me and Herbie will be calling. Can't thank you enough for joining us.
Starting point is 02:07:43 Enjoy your bar bills, pal, and let's get a dub. Thanks, Pat. Thanks, AJ. You got it, ladies and gentlemen, Peyton Manning. Hey, Peyton. Yeah, he used to be like the mayor of the Pro Bowl, I think is what people used to call. It's called the mayor, so it makes sense that he would be running the Pro Bowl.
Starting point is 02:08:01 Sheriff. He's called Sheriff. Well, yeah. I'm thinking Sean Casey. He is the mayor. Now. Now he is the mayor. I'm always, you know, Sean Casey.
Starting point is 02:08:10 You know I'm a big Sean Casey guy. Yeah, always on the brain. He's always on the tip of the tongue. He's always there. But I guess, like, he was, I think he took the reins from somebody. And then, like, he, you know what I mean? It was a big deal. It would make sense, doesn't it?
Starting point is 02:08:24 Yeah, I mean, it's Peyton Manning. Like, he still has that, like, people see him. and then like he you know what i mean it was a big deal it would make sense doesn't it yeah i mean it's peyton manning like he still has that like people see him like dang that's peyton manning the coach not only first everyone's first thought is that dude is way bigger than i thought he he was when i saw him on tv and then when you see how cool he is and how funny he is yes makes sense man the dude's awesome yeah he hearing the stories of what the pro bowl used to be like when it was in hawaii and it was kind of, you know, something that everybody appreciated. And a lot of people blame just the players, but the NFL kind of knocked it down a few slots too when they decided to not spend as much money on it and invest in it and do things like that. I think Peyton getting back in there and the ratings are always high.
Starting point is 02:08:59 Yeah. The ratings are always so high. NFL football. Yeah, so I don't want to say that the NFL maybe was like, ah, these people will watch. Whatever. Anything. But goddamn, you get this stuff back.
Starting point is 02:09:10 Imagine Patrick Mahomes and Joey Burrow battling at this. Now, both of them want to be in the Super Bowl and will probably be in the Super Bowl for the next 20 years or whatever alongside Josh Allen from the AFC side. But those quarterback challenges back in the day and those skills contests back in the day and the bench press back in the day and everything back in the day that you watch,
Starting point is 02:09:31 it was like, oh, I want to make the Pro Bowl. Like, this is where all the greats are around. Then you start hearing about what he was talking about there, about the game that is shared and the friendships that are built and the camaraderie that is kind of amongst the elite of the elite that make it into the NFL. It's like that's something special that I hope they're able to find again because I hope this isn't toothpaste out of the bottle already type thing.
Starting point is 02:09:51 Yeah, because, like, you know, I mean, it'll obviously never go back to how it was, but I remember, you know, when I was younger, like, it was an actual game. You know, like, guys did not treat it like an all-star game. You know, it was a fucking another game on the schedule. Guys getting blown up. And then, obviously, Peyton, you know, has the, you know, seminal moment of the Pro Bowl when he called Mike Vanderjack, you know, our idiot kicker getting liquored up.
Starting point is 02:10:15 Watch that this morning. Forgot how funny and awesome that was. But, like, shit like that, like, it really was. You know, like, you wanted to tune in and watch the Pro Bowl. And, granted, it was was, you know, like, you wanted to tune in and watch the Pro Bowl. And granted, it was after the Super Bowl, so it was kind of like that one last taste of the NFL before, like, a long winter of not having it. But, shit, I mean, like, there was reason to watch the game. Like, the guys did care about it. Peyton's talking about how every other sport has all their greatest players in the same place for the weekend.
Starting point is 02:10:41 Why would the NFL not have that? It's like, that's right. I hope we get back into it. Now, you know, I turned down my, hey, would you like to go to the Pro Bowl? No. No, actually. It's a $250,000 bonus in your contract. And in the contract, technically says you have to play in it.
Starting point is 02:10:58 No, I'm not doing that shit again. I'd rather just go live my life. That was when I retired or whatever. And Jim still paid me, which I'm very grateful for. I think AFC won that game, so it would have been another, like, I just go live my life. That was when I retired or whatever. And Jim still paid me, which I'm very grateful for. I think AFC won that game, so it would have been another like 60 grand or whatever for the winning team. But it has become something that's very easily skippable, I think, for a lot of big-name players because of how it's been treated. Hopefully, that will be changed.
Starting point is 02:11:23 Now, it is time to wrap up this week in the only way that we know how. That's right. It is time for old blue-collar Bruce. Oh, yeah. Hey, Bruce, if you want, he can have my shot at the waste management deal if he wants it. Start spreading the news. Bruce is potting today. Throwing today.
Starting point is 02:11:46 What do you want to do? Okay. All right. He's throwing into the net or in the hoop? The hoop. Hardest shot into Thunderdome. Brucey Branovich for this feel-good Friday to wrap up with some winners because I wasn't able to do it in the last hour.
Starting point is 02:12:02 If Bruce is able to make this, AJ Hawk will give 10 merches. I'll give 10 people $500 to retweet this thing and say something nice to somebody and put their cash tag in the same reply so we can pay you officially on cash up. Make it 15 $500. If you can make this and then retweet it, let's go Bruce Branovich. For the good of the Pro Bowl, for the good of the NFL, for the good of the Feel Good Friday, February 3rd, 2023. Stats. You're online. I know you can't hear me, but he's good. He's online. AJ said you can't hear him, but you're online.
Starting point is 02:12:36 You're online. You're on the right line. Stats. Spread it. He's dialed. Let's go, Bruce. Come on, Brucie. Pull in the hoop, Bruce. Oh, my. Bruce, Bruce, if you make this, 20 people.
Starting point is 02:12:57 Wow. Read this video. Say something nice to somebody. And put their cash tag in the same reply so we can pay them officially on cash app bruce branovic start spreading that was a good ball that was beautiful that's your best throw yeah yeah that was your absolute best throws two more balls down there and a rugby ball if you need to get you know a little bit yeah silly at the end you're trying to guide it. Just let it fly. Fire that pigskin.
Starting point is 02:13:27 Look and throw, Bruce. Come on. You got it. 20 people. $500. Retweet this video. Say something nice to somebody. Input the cash tag in the same reply so we can pay them. Rugby ball.
Starting point is 02:13:36 Rugby ball. Rugby ball. Rugby ball. Rugby ball. Tell him not to put his hands on his waist and be so like. AJ said your body language is despicable. Yeah, terrible. Your body language is your resume, Bruce. Your body language is your resume, Bruce.
Starting point is 02:13:48 Your body language is your resume, Bruce, and your resume is shit right now, is what he said. That's not your fault. You were upset. You wanted to win 20 people $500. How are you throwing this thing? What are you doing? Kick it. If you do that,
Starting point is 02:14:03 25 people who win $500. Who retweet this video, say something nice to somebody, and put their cash tag in the same reply so we can pay them officially on Cash App. What? That was a great throw. Alright, down to the putting green. Can we have Mitt do a
Starting point is 02:14:22 kickflip or something? Let's hope we don't have to get there yeah but we are not going to have mitt potentially break his leg against we have to hear him crutch around this goddamn thing three months uh there's a package um we're happy you're healthy, man. Happy you're healthy, and congrats on getting Kyrie Irving. AJ, what are you giving away if Bruce can make a putt here? Well, where are we at now on the giveaway?
Starting point is 02:14:53 We're not doing 25 for this. He made this in the first one. If he would have made that rugby toss, I mean, that would have been a fucking... Good thing is Bruce is the one that gets to go through it, right? And dole it all out through the Cash App? Yes. Yeah, so let's say six merches and 11 people, $500. Six merches, 11 people, $500, who retweet this video and say something nice to somebody,
Starting point is 02:15:14 and that same reply, put your cash tag, pay you officially on Cash App, if Bruce can make this putt from nine feet. Oh, no. Wow. Walking it in. Walking it in. Wow. Hit a missile and walked right walking it in.
Starting point is 02:15:30 Oh, I wanted the walk-in. Oh, my. French lick. It didn't hit the pole. Oh, no. Oh, no. Good aggressive. That was a great aggressive attempt, though.
Starting point is 02:15:40 I like the aggressive structure. Bruce, I love the confidence. I love everything about it. Six merches, 11 people who win $500. If Bruce Branovich can make this putt. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 02:15:55 Shaking like a leaf. It's all right. He's got his Otani New Balances. Yep. Lining up from about eight feet here. Did it do his track pants? And a smooth putter swing. What a
Starting point is 02:16:10 fucking performance. Well done. Bruce Branovich wins 6 people some merches. 11 people $500. All you have to do is retweet this video, say something nice to somebody, and put your cash tag in the same reply so we can pay you officially on Cash App. Congrats, Bruce. Way to go, pal.
Starting point is 02:16:25 Good stroke. Thank you, Bruce. That was amazing. And thank you, boys, for the incredible week. Way to sit in here, Mitt. We miss you, Connor. We'll see you soon, Dirty. See everybody on Monday. Big shout-out to Shom Sharania, Pat Williams, and Peyton Manning. I'll be calling the flag football games on Sunday, live on ABC,
Starting point is 02:16:42 ESPN, ESPN Plus, Disney, and some other channel. There'll be three of them, seven on ABC, ESPN, ESPN Plus, Disney, and some other channel. There will be three of them, seven on seven. Excited to see how that whole thing goes. Then we'll be live on Radio Row on Overreaction Monday. You are the best people on earth. Thank you for allowing us to do this for a living. Yesterday was six years since I retired.
Starting point is 02:17:02 We'll continue to do this for as long as you will have us. Thank you so much for allowing the dumbest operation to ever exist to kind of survive and thrive while we just focus on the dumb sports landscape. AJ, anything to say to the beautiful people that watch every single day? I think you said it well, but I'm excited for next week, man. You're right. What you said off the, when I first got on here, it's a fun week. We get to celebrate and talk to some awesome people. So yeah, it should be a fun week ahead. Enjoy the season that was. That's what we'll do next week live from Radio Row in Phoenix. Be a friend, tell a friend.
Starting point is 02:17:30 Say something nice to somebody. Goodbye.

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