The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 855 - BACK FROM VACATION, Dan Orlovsky, Jeff "The Jett" Passan, & Ian Rapoport LIVE From The ThunderDome

Episode Date: February 27, 2023

On today’s show, Pat and the boys are back from a two week vacation and cover everything they missed around the sports world including all the different NFL news, the Brett Favre lawsuit, what they did over vacation, and all the other different things happening around the world of sports. Joining the program to chat about the combine this week in Indianapolis, and which prospects we should keep an eye on, specifically the Quarterback’s, and what his potential coaching career might look like is 12 year NFL veteran at QB, and ESPN NFL Analyst, Dan Orlovsky (28:16-55:05). Next, the face of baseball at ESPN, Jeff “The Jett” Passan joins the show to chat about the new pitch clock in baseball, whether it’s good for the game or not, and what it means for baseball moving forward (1:12:37-1:36:58). Later, NFL Insider and friend of the show, Ian Rapoport joins the progrum LIVE in Indianapolis as he discusses the big stories revolving around the combine, what he thinks will ultimately happen with Aaron Rodgers, Derek Carr, and Lamar Jackson, and much more (2:02:05-2:49:53). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Beautiful people, welcome back to our Humble the Boat, the Thunderdome, on this We Are Back Monday, February 27, 2023. This show starts, alright, now! We're back! Nailed it, boys. Obviously, we are back. We are gone for a long time. Longest time we have taken off since the beginning of this whole show's being created. We absolutely enjoyed our time. We hope that you did as well. We did miss all of you. I missed the hell out of doing this program. I

missed all the boys, and it is fantastic to be back in the Thunderdome chit-chatting about all the things happening around the sports world. We have a loaded program today. Dan Rolofsky will join us in about 20 minutes. Didn't get a chance to talk to him that much this NFL season. Can't wait to hear where his thoughts are

on how the season went, and also, give some draft predictions. Remember, it was just a couple years ago he came on this program, really stirred some shit with his quarterback evaluations. Can't wait to hear what he is thinking. Jet Passon will join us in a second hour. Here we go. Hey, baseball had made some big changes while we were gone. A lot of shit had happened in baseball.

It is baseball season. We will not be talking baseball every single day, but we need to talk to Jet about what's going on in baseball. Then we'll check back in with him like a month or two from now when baseball matters. Ian Rappaport will be joining us live in studio for the third hour right here, right there. We'll get a high chair. We'll lift his ass up, and we will be listening and chatting with him about all the things taking place around Indianapolis this week

as the Combine will be listening and chatting with him about all the things taking place around Indianapolis this week as the Combine will be taking place. Indianapolis is now the adult spring break for the NFL. A lot of moves are made by the agents. A lot of free agents are... It's literally getting decided where some free agents are going to go this week in Indianapolis. Also, what about the quarterbacks coming out because the Colts are going to be looking? The Texans are going to be looking? What are the Bears doing?

Allegedly, they're shopping the first round. First overall pick. Seems like a smart move. There's a lot to catch up on. I've officially been served by Brett Favre. Came back from Hawaii to Indiana on Saturday. Slept, woke up on Sunday. Lady at my front door.

Open the door. I am so sorry. I am a fan of the show. I just worked for a company that was hired. These are for you. My dogs, I told them, fucking sicker. She wants to bankrupt us. This is what she's working for, the Brett Favre team.

She was not serving me the papers. It's officially official. I have been sued by Brett Favre. Here we go. Congratulations. The only thing you should be serving on Sundays is the Lord. Okay? Amen. Should I serve him? Hell yeah. Amen, Tony. And I've learned a lot about these

Southern folks. I watched those Murdoch documentaries on Netflix, and I guess there's one on HBO Max. I'll tell you what. Some of those powerful old Southern whites are some real fucking gems, aren't they? Oh, yeah. Talk about some of the biggest scumbags on Earth. I'm not saying anything about anybody in Mississippi. I'm just talking about lowcountry over there

in South Carolina. Right. And this fuck boy right here who's currently dead. Mm-hmm. Better for the world that he's dead. Would like to let everybody know

that just from what I learned from the documentary. Don't know him personally. Allegedly had to say all that stuff. Right. This family, this family's fucking terrible.

Oh, yeah. There's a lot going on in the world. A lot has happened. We'll catch up on it all. I got a great tan. I'm seeing it for the first time on camera.

Wow. It looks magnificent. Holy shit. Hair looks lighter, too it all. I got a great tan. I'm seeing it for the first time on camera. Wow. Magnificent. Hair looks lighter too. I got a little sun in the hair there. Barbara couldn't make the trip today, obviously. I think it'll be in tomorrow. Beard's a little rough. I've gained a few

pounds. Ate well, lived well. Wife and I had a fantastic trip. Let's get to the talks at the table. I'm with my boss, Connor. Connor, how you doing, pal? Got the Bruins jersey on. How was your break, man? I missed a fantastic trip. Let's get to the talks at table. I have Boss Connor at Ty Schmidt. Connor, how you doing, pal? Got the Bruins jersey on. How was your break, man?

I missed you, pal. Yeah, I missed you too, Pat. Missed all you guys. You know, break was nice. I went home to Boston, got to see the Atlantic Ocean. Always nice to see you. I'm wearing this sweater because, you know, Linus Olmark goalie goal the other night for the Boston Bruins. We love goalie goals.

We love goalie goals. That was amazing. That was a heartbreaker that it came from your fucking scumbag city. But any time you see a goalie start lining some things up, because that has to get over everybody's head and has to be online, while you're wearing that big goofy pads and a terrible stick to shoot with, that was a snipe from that goalie. Yeah, it was incredible.

A lot of that, you know, a lot of watching Bruins, Celtics, sports, you know, watched the movie when Nick went to the theaters. That was nice. I did do something I haven't done in quite some time. I pooped my pants on Monday, actually, a week ago today. What? You're right. Yeah.

I pooped my pants. I haven't really felt poop in my underwear while I'm wearing it in a long time. Fart? Poop? Poop. No, no, no. I'm talking waterfall poop. Yeah, full pooping in the pants.

I'm talking throw out underwear, poop your pants. I'm not just... I am so happy that you... I've held this in since I came in today. I've wanted to share this so bad. I was at a restaurant. Public! No, no, no. I didn't poop my pants until I got home.

But while I was walking home, I knew, boy, I might poop my pants. Was it a... No, no. It was someone just stabbed me in the stomach. Something is wrong here. I got a large margarita, and I got two tacos. And I'm not going to say what restaurant it was just because that'd be... Which one was it?

It was Condado on Mass Ave. They serve tacos. Allegedly. My only... Allegedly. No, this was Condado. I have the receipts. This is the first time I've been there in quite some time. I love the place. Never

had a bad experience. And I put my pants on Monday. Unfortunately, I could not go back because it was bad. This is brand new underwear, too. I have to also mention, I never get new clothes. You guys see how I dress. Like an asshole. I don't do it. Went to Lululemon. get new clothes. You guys see how I dress. Like an asshole. Like an asshole.

I don't do it. Went to Lululemon. Got new Lululemon underpants. Not cheap. Not cheap. Not cheap. And I filled them with poop. I could not.

There was no opportunity. Was it tights? Oh, yeah. It was box briefs. It was like the nice. How close were you to the bathroom when you pooped your pants? I was walking into the bathroom when I pooped my pants. It wasn't a situation where I could hold it, Tony.

Okay, I was sitting on my balcony. My stomach hurt. I was clenching hard. I was clenching. I did not want to poop. I knew I had to wait and I stood up because I was like,

I better go sit on the toilet because something bad is going to happen. And as I'm walking to my bathroom, you get the whole... It's like you feel it in your pants. The damn broke? Yes, the damn broke, and I couldn't hold it. I kept trying to hold it as I kept walking.

More poop, more poop, more poop. I kept pooping my pants. And then actually the worst part about this was that when I finally got to the toilet, pants come off. Yeah. Toilet seat's still up. So I got a lot of poop on the toilet seat. I had to flip that up. I had a lot of poop on the toilet seat. I had to flip

that up. I had to throw out my underpants. I had to clean my entire bathroom which took like probably 45 an hour. So, I mean, poop on my hands. So, does Lululemon's have good catch rate? Lululemon's are great. I mean, I was leaking down the backside of my legs for a while.

Hey, great break. Aside from that, it was a really fun break. We just wore underpants. It only affected my underpants, but I had, again, new Lululemon sweatpants on, and they still kind of smell like poop, and I washed them twice. But aside from that break,

because I played a lot of Hogwarts. All right. Hogwarts, I fear, is going to be forgotten about your break. I think so. The only thing we're going to think about is, remember last break that we took next year be forgotten about your break. I think so. The only thing we're going to think about is, remember last break that we talked about? Next year, when we take our break. Connor, try not to shit your pants. That's right.

Hey, proud of you for really letting the world know that that's relatable, you know? Hey, why wouldn't I, Sherry? He's 27 years old. Hey, 27. Pooping your pants. Never too young to poop your pants. That's right. I couldn't even imagine the fear that was running through your mind while you were getting close,

and you could feel the damn, oh, oh, oh. And then once that thing goes, you could not stop. I couldn't stop. And when I did sit down, it was just, I've never had it like that before. We're like, I'm not, I'm not, like, there's no push. This is our first show back. Yeah. Ten minutes.

I had to tell you guys. Hey, we appreciate you. You're an honesty man that's that's perfect that's the point of the show absolutely people said they missed this show hey if it's the truth it doesn't scare me you're right right well said truth is always in the right that's why when i was serving those papers just yesterday bingo i said hey listen we ain't worried about nothing no we did our job how we do our job every single day your underwear did its job it did it did very well lululemon's a great product by the way and shout out to that place for being great normally just

one particular time might have served something that got in there sideways and let your butthole become this unrestricted undisciplined traitor almost to the rest of your body happy you got through that ty did you shit your pants during a break? I did not, but I'm no stranger to damn near shitting your pants. So I feel you. I mean, people have seen on this show I've had to get up from this stage and waddle my way into that bathroom time and time again. So, listen, I've been there. Things could be worse, so it's not that bad.

Outside of that, you know, break was a good time. It was a good time. You know, went down to Florida. There we go. Hey, there we go. There we go. It was fun. Things a little bit different when you have a kid.

You know, you're kind of getting used to that on vacation because you can't really do anything you want to do anymore. It kind of all revolves around your kid. But it's awesome. You know, I mean, got to see her, you know, seeing the ocean and all that kind of stuff. I was telling you guys right before I came on, I did hone the pickleball a little bit down there. Did not expect that. It was nice getting humbled. I knew somebody in here was going to play.

Oh, yeah. I took my pickleball racket to Hawaii. Nice. And I was playing it. I did. Actually, as I walked in here, I saw the net. I thought to myself, forgot the racket in my bag still. It's not even here.

So you're not going to see me playing any Thunderdome pickleball today. But I knew that you guys were going to be getting better oh yeah and i didn't play i got behind you got you got much better i i mean i i played on i can't remember what day it was but we went down i mean pickleball in florida is the first time that i've actually seen it like that where it's like you go and and we went to this this area where there were like 12 courts and you're putting your fucking paddle in the thing and waiting. I mean, there were 50 to 60 people there just constantly. They play all day.

Lights are on. It was fucking sweet. A little different, obviously, than how we played out in Arizona. I mean, these are people playing by the rules, are there, every single day. Are rules better than theirs? Honestly, you really can't tell that much of a difference. Okay, so we're kind of playing. Yeah, here we go.

It's very similar. Good for us. We just picked it up. We did it out. We did not Google at all on how to play. Just kind of assumed how it was. Then fucking PickleballAQ shows up. He starts throwing out his version of the rules.

We found out those weren't right, so we just kind of picked up the game and kind of did our own thing. We were close, you're saying. Yeah, pretty close. I mean, the big thing, obviously, is when at first we weren't letting the uh the return serve bounce which obviously changes the game quite a bit but it is it's a lot less of because you know the median age there was probably like 55 to 65 you're cooking these fucking old fucks not really because i tell you what no offense if you're 55 when i'm 55 i'll say i'm old you're not near death no no absolutely not it was

very windy when we played yeah i might be near death these fucking people just don't make mistakes just painting lines they just do not make mistakes ever these old zero oh yeah zero on four stairs and i was you know eventually because like a couple times i you know they're not used to playing against someone who has a backhand like mine because i was fucking these old guys just shoving it down their throat oh yeah going deep because you know normally they're just kind of pitting and patting over that and i was like you know what i'm not fucking doing that i don't play i don't play that way okay so you do that a couple times you did not make friends at the pickleball court i know no but i mean what you know when when you're not winning it's like these

guys were kind of like all right you know you you sack a wine okay like you know so they'd get me up to the net and then i'd kind of be stuck up there and these guys are just fucking putting english on it yeah exactly so uh i did a lot of that that was a lot of fun and then unfortunately i did get sick kind of towards the end of the trip as well really yeah i don't know what it was uh puking pooping wow yeah kind of the the full nine yards toilet uh yeah congr? Yeah. Congrats. Gripping. And, you know, I pooped in the shower once. Didn't have a choice. Didn't have a choice. There you go.

I didn't expect us to kind of go down this path, but once Connor said it, I was like, well, shit, you know, I guess I got to kind of tell my story as well. So, yeah, I had to. But outside of that, great vacation. It did seem like we were gone for a fucking month and a half. Hey, toxic table. It seemed like a long time. It did.

Happy you guys had a great break. Let's talk to another father. Did you shit your pants or a shower at Tone Digs? You look fantastic. No, but I spent a lot of time with a little girl that did shit her pants a lot. Boom. Shout out to you guys. Big poop and bacon.

What'd you do for the break? Anything sweet, Tone? Just spent a lot of time with a baby. I did sit on a bidet. I was at a place where they had a bidet, which is kind of awesome. I never really experienced that in my life. Probably going to get one. Definitely.

We're getting them in here, actually. Ooh, really? Yeah, because where I was had bidet as well. Yeah. And the name of the brand of the bidet is Toto, T-O-T-O. Sure, Africa. And I would like to – great song. Yeah.

I would like to let Toto – every time I walked into the bathroom, it opened up for me. I said, what's up, Toto? Literally talked to Toto. And then I sit down, warm seat, clean. It's already been cleaned. It was warm. Toto cleaned the seat for me. It was warm.

And then obviously afterwards, your butthole gets a shower. Now, you weren't able to accomplish this because you shit in your pants and with the toilet closed. Toto would open right up for you. That's a whole new lifestyle. We've been living like fucking cavemen. Peasants, bro, without our bubbles getting washed. It is unbelievable. It's a game changer, bro.

It is a game changer. Has a dryer on it. Yeah, there's Toto. What? Toto! That's what, literally, as I'm walking in, 2 a.m., 3 a.m., got a piss, Toto, hello, Pat, basically. With a light around the bowl.

That's all. That's how you do it. Yeah, and then it shuts and flushes. You were shitting in a robot's mouth. Right down the robot's throat. Suck it. Toto couldn't deep throat my shit quicker, I'll tell you that. And then after it gives the nice spritzer, the nice clean off, the nice car wash, the nice shh, you know what I mean?

Drives it. Dryer. Dryer. I have a question. Are you supposed to flush before you spray your butt? Toto did it for me. Toto could sense whenever it was about time. You know whenever you're chugging a beer and it gets a little full and it swallows? Toto could sense how much shit was coming in and let it go.

Field player. Yeah, Toto, this might be the greatest bidet of all time. I'm not sure. Also a natural deodorizer too, so it automatically gets rid of the smell. Cleans everything. Wow. Unbelievable. I was staying in a real high society. I had that in my resort, didn't use it once. What a fucking idiot, Foxy. I don't know.

I don't know. My girlfriend said too, you gotta use it, didn't use it once. Foxy, let your butthole live lifestyle rich and famous. One time. I was intimidated. I want to let everybody know where. So, Tone, you had a good time? You got your butt sprayed, everything like that? Yep, contrary to popular belief.

Nailed it. You got there. It's a tough one. That's like real world. Didn't have that surgery where they tie your stomach smaller? Oh, yeah. Aaron called you fat. He did.

And then he went into a dark hole to see what his life after football would be like. You look thin, by the way. Yeah, you do. You look good. You look great. You're publicly shameless. Died Saturday. I saw thin, by the way. Yeah, you do. You look good. You're publicly shameless. Guy started it. I saw you on the meal plan over there.

Aaron has come out of the darkness. We heard that report. That's right. Saw what his hole looked like. We knew that because I watched a guy in that hole, in that same exact hole for 20 minutes. A guy recorded it, and I saw the whole thing. And I told him that light switch is going to be literally right above your head.

Talking to you. At all times. You're going to be sitting there trying to find your little yoga mat thing that they got out there. Once again, it looks pretty nice. Who cares? You can't see anything. All of a sudden, you're just going, where is him? There's a light switch. Everything could be much easier. Real quick. I could find this

fucking Toto bidet. I could find this little yoga mat. Not going to do it. Fuck it. That's be much easier right now. Real quick. I could find this fucking Toto bidet. I could find this little yoga mat. Not going to do it. Fuck it. That's a lot of willpower. What if he accidentally hit it after 12 hours? No! What if he's tripping balls, right?

The DMT hits him. Right. He's got closed Sicilian on the ceiling like he's Queen's Gambit. He's doing his whole thing. And then he stands up and all of a sudden fucking ghost comes in. Whoa! Shoulder. Turns on a light. It's over. Whoa. Shoulder. Turns on the light.

It's over. Ruined. Forever. Three days in. Imagine almost gone. Got to restart. That would be devastating. We don't know if that happened or not.

No. Allegedly. We would not like to be sued by any darkness retreats for any situations. I've not heard from Aaron Rodgers since he's come out of the darkness. A lot of people were sending us tweets. Hey, what's Aaron? What did he decide when he's in his darkness? I did ask. I did not get an answer. I have no idea. Hope he's come out of the darkness. A lot of people were sending us tweets. Hey, what's your hair? What do you decide when you see there's darkness? I did ask.

I did not get an answer. I have no idea. Hope he's okay and congrats to him. Hope he's okay. Might not use the phone anymore. So, good. I believe AJ has gotten correspondence. We might have got kicked out during the darkness.

Not 100% sure. Might have been. The darkness might have eliminated us. If that is the case, hell of a run. Good run. Is AJ on a buck, I guess? Yeah, AJ's on a boat right now. Probably shitting his pants because that is what cruises are all about.

I appreciate you boys for having an incredible break. I missed you all a lot. Happy you both had little pooping issues. Let's not do that thunderdome. No, never again. Got this whole place cleaned and cut and everything while we were gone. Tony, happy for you getting to experience the lifestyle of Richard Famous. Boys in the back, Foxy, Zito, Nick, Dirty, Brucie, you guys are the best.

Mitt, hope everything's good on the 5-Hour Energy phone line. 1-833-432-3663 or 1-833-4-DA-DOME. Mitt will be answering the calls back there. Can't wait to hear what everybody's been up to. Let's dive into some news. Oh, Joe Montana. I met Joe Montana. Here we go. Can't wait to hear what everybody's been up to. Let's dive into some news. Oh, Joe Montana. I met Joe Montana. Here we go.

How was yours? Pretty cool. How was he? How was Hawaii? Joe Montana was there. Do you have Skechers on? He had flip-flops. I don't know if they were Skechers flip-flops.

Does he have a football and a holster like a gun? So I did keep an eye out for that. He did not have a football holster on him at all. He was just chilling though, man. Like just acting like he was not Joe Montana. I was very flustered. You know, he walked, he literally walked by and I was Mark. I was a full Mark. I go, holy shit.

Loud. Holy shit. You're a legend, bro. And he goes, all right. And he's like, he just keeps moving or whatever. And I'm like, okay, my guy. So then a couple days later, we happened to be in the same area of where we were staying.

He walks by, and I go, thank you for your service to Football Story. All right. Just walks by, like head down. Probably gets it all the time. Oh, yeah. Trying to live as normal as possible. Like he was eating the same place as everybody else, hanging out at the same place, like just trying to be a normal human and every time i saw him i'm like that's fucking

joseph that's joe montana right there so finally last day i introduced myself joe pat mcafee very nice to meet you pat oh man because i have that big hat yeah covering your car yeah yeah he was like i couldn't really see you because of the my boys and I were just chatting about you or whatever. You're in the news, you know. I was like, yeah, Brett's suing me, Joe. He's like, don't love that, but we love watching the show or whatever. I was like, Joe, cool. Oh, my God.

You watch our fucking show? And he was like, nice meeting you or whatever. And he left. Didn't get an answer. But I assume he knows that we exist, which was amazing. He's one of those guys that fucking, like, as a western Pennsylvania human, like Joe Montana, he's Joe of those guys that oh yeah fucking like as a western pennsylvania human like joe montana is joe montana yeah so that was a massive moment for me my wife was a little bit embarrassed i think with the way i was acting oh it's joe montana i'm really laying down

i'm laying down like this just like almost dead you know just chilling getting your tan on burn i was getting burnt just fucking cooked it's supposed to rain every day didn't rain once that's why nathan arda over there yeah i'm lying there like this accidentally having my head go this way and i holy shit literally everybody's quiet where we're at holy she had to be embarrassed uh but that was that was a real highlight there i got a chance to uh fly in a tiny little plane. That's fun. No. Don't love it. Almost just stayed on the island because I didn't want to get on the plane. Not a big small plane guy. You know, anytime

you hear about things that are bad happening with planes, normally smaller planes happen to be the only plane that was going off the island. The person I met in that plane, though, legend. Me, my wife, and this one particular gentleman were on this tiny plane off the island to somewhere else. This guy is going to be a huge part of our story, I think, going forward

this particular program. And yeah, it was a great fucking trip. I'm very thankful for everybody. I appreciate everybody's well wishes. I was getting a lot of tweets about people missing this program, getting a lot of messages about people missing us, telling us to stop being a lazy sack of shit and get back in here. You're right. I did get to the point where I was like, all right, I need to get off this island. It's been too long. It's great to be back. With that being said, we're off Wednesday.

Okay. Good to know. Very important. We're off Wednesday. I do apologize. Something has arised. Rose? Arisen.

Arisen. Something has arisen. He has. Well, that's coming up. 40 days, though. I was going to say Ash Wednesday. It was just the other day. Rose? Something has arisen? He has. It's coming up. 40 days, though. I saw Mark Wahlberg crosses on his head on television. Everyone stop jerking off.

40 days. Some people do that. Some people only candy. No pop. Some people bop too much. They decide to do that. Good luck with all your 40 days, 40 nights, or whatever you're doing. It is not that. Good luck with all your 40 days, 40 nights, or whatever you're doing. It is not that.

Something has arisen Wednesday that I have to go to. Don't have a choice. Cannot pass it up. Will not. Not allowed to talk about it. Nope. Ever, I don't think. No.

No, not at all. Definitely going to talk about it. For sure. Have to. One million percent will talk about it. But you're probably not going to see anything from it, though. No. You know? Sign an NDA not going to see anything from it, though. No. You know? Sign an NDA?

You never know. Don't sign anything. Well, I got those papers from Brett. True. Did he sign those? He's Lord, dude. And I also have Brett's address now. You know, from that thing?

I was thinking about sending him a letter, you know, writing a handwritten letter to him. Dear Brett. Yeah, sure. Dear Brett. Please read sure. Dear Brett. Please read this with a Southern accent. Just what are you doing, you know? Yeah. If you think about that, the other people,

and I've done a lot of reading on this whole thing while I was in Hawaii, and it seems like he had, like, I don't know, nothing's a slam dunk, I guess, especially in Mississippi, which I heard is tough to go into. And we will obviously be, you know, looking for a little fair. I mean, there's a lot of things that could take place here. But the other people in the lawsuit that I'm in, state auditor, okay? We as a program, if the state auditor is reporting, listen, I don't know, Shad, I believe his name is, Shad White.

Yep. But if the state auditor is saying something, we're not allowed to say like, hey, about... Talk about the news. I don't know how, I don't fully comprehend how any of it has happened. I've reached out to a lot of different law people.

I've talked to a lot of different law people. I'm going to have to hire a lawyer because there's so much fucking shit that goes in it, which I don't love about the American process that somebody can just file a fugaz lawsuit against somebody. Now I automatically, okay, I have to hire this lawyer. I have to go through this whole process, but I have to, I'm going to have to do that because how much is going into it and what could potentially take place. It's money, whatever. I've been broke before. Lawyer said he's going to bankrupt me. And if I, if I, I'll learn my lesson, if he bankrupts me. Okay, pal. All right. I mean, whatever you want to do, but I don't understand how,

how we were the ones chosen for this particular lawsuit, but I will continue to reiterate excited to see how it all goes. Yeah. Pretty excited about it. And I don't know if that's a normal feeling that people get whenever they get sued but i'm like actually intrigued on how this process the whole yeah like i i take everything as like a chance to learn like i'll probably tell the story someday to somebody like oh there's this one time brett sued me mississippi court we moved it obviously to federal court. Then I had to go in there, testify. They said this. I said that. I got deposed. I got deposed. I enjoy these types of situations.

I don't understand, though, how any of it will work for them. I don't know how from my understanding. I might be wrong, but I don't. A lot of reports. A lot of other coverage about it. know we watched the documentary kind of on it yeah we did with uh real sports with bart gumbel there's allegedly

text messages and stuff no no yeah yeah but that's yes of course but i'm just saying the whole thought behind it i don't know how this takes place no or how it even gets to the point of where it's at with us i don't know what shannon said i have no idea what shannon right shannon's doing the same shit as us though they're saying the same stuff as us. I don't know what Shannon said. I have no idea what Shannon said. Shannon's doing the same shit as us, though. They're saying the same stuff as us. So I haven't looked into what they all said. But like, the state auditor, he's already been like, if the state auditor's reporting something, and we're a program that

reports news, especially when it comes to football Packers quarterbacks. All-time great. I don't know how we're... So that's why I haven't really stressed this much, because I don't know the laws inside and out. But from everything I looked up, I think we're in a pretty good spot. Yeah.

I think we're in a pretty good spot in this whole thing. And I think discovery is a part of the whole thing. Well, that's what makes no sense is there's been a lot of stuff that's already been discovered. Like, really, you just think that if anything is going to happen like he's kind of opening himself up for like for discovery because it makes no sense at all at first when when you got this i thought it might be like uh hey like you know just give me a chance to kind of like you hear my side like you know i have not heard it but it's not that it's hey this guy is maliciously saying bullshit that isn't true,

which, again, just reporting on stuff that has already been reported by people who are way more enmeshed in the situation than we could ever be. And it's like that's not the case. It's not like, hey, this is all one big misunderstanding, and I just kind of want to clear things up so that we can get on the same page. It's bankrupt me. Yeah, exactly. It's, hey, hey you're full of shit you're saying shit that's not true you know you're saying shit that's not true and now you're gonna pay which kind of makes no sense it doesn't you know i'm excited to see how it works out they gotta know something that we don't i guess

or they don't and just know that you know i know that particular lawyer has represented people in the past they're very powerful that's right and i know he's from new york and they filed in mississippi yep i have uh reached out to pretty powerful uh lawyers as well you know so i'm excited to watch how the joust works and uh see if you can handle edgar snyder that's right attorney edgar sder. You don't pay unless we get money for you. Boom. That's not who we're hiring. But damn, Edgar Snyder was a dog. We're not hiring the jackhammer either who does the auto insurance.

Oh, yeah, Greg. Jack Hammer. Edgar Snyder was the Joe DiNardo of the Pittsburgh area. Of lawyers. Oh, Barry Feinstein. That's who we had in Massachusetts. Slip, fall. Bingo.

Call. It's your money. He's actually the official lawyer of the Pittsburgh Steelers, too. He's a dog. Edgar Snyder is? Oh, yeah. Maybe he should call him. Holy shit.

Yeah, hold on. I haven't added him to the list. We've got some other power players. I didn't know Edgar Snyder was for real. Another guy you could ask, too. I bet Jim Irsay might have. No, there's a lot of First Amendment. Rights?

Lawyers. Lawyers. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. So those are the people. Oh yeah. Yeah. So like, those are the people who I think, yeah, the,

I do believe I know what Shannon said and it is much different as to how we covered it as well. Yeah. So I'm the, I don't like that. They, they, they,

they, Hey, listen, I like Shannon. I'm a big fan. We are big fans. Shannon sharp. With that being said,

like whatever he's got going on, he's got going, they chose not to address it. We chose right here. I mean, just got served yesterday doing a whole breakdown of how we were so flustered and confused by it. But that's why I spent some of my vacation. Not all of it. No.

I did have a little bit of anxiety about it. Whenever the guy said he was going to bankrupt me, I'm like, oh, fuck. Coming for lunch. I got 13 employees. I got two new babies. I got people fucking. I got a baby on the way. Yeah.

Got houses being built and purchased and lives being built. Hold on. Bankroll. That's a lot of pressure here. I mean, let's not. I got my entire family on the payroll. I mean, there's a lot. There's a lot there.

And I started looking into it, scrolling. What do I got? Come on. All right. We'll move on. It didn't take away from my happiness. I was glad everybody knew that. Yeah, with that on your mind, I believe you did play a hell of a golf round too.

So for that to happen in the midst of all this, kind of awesome. I feel pretty good. Real slow greens at the particular course I was playing on, that's right in my bread basket. Oh, yeah? That's what we're talking about. I mean, I was – You find one champion's course with slow greens.

I was throwing darts, dude, and it was just stopping because the greens were so slow. So it's like, all right, you're 180 out. what are you planning on doing most of the time well this is either going to get chunk short or it's going to run right off the green yep this one just right in there dart i can make that putt hold on we got a birdie putt all of a sudden joining us now he's a man who is very good at golf i believe he golfs with all the elites i believe he's probably golfed with the lawyer who is threatening to bankrupt me before because that is how high society this man has become.

Because he is on television literally 13 hours a day through all of football season. I think I saw he tweeted 171 of 172 days he did work during the football season. He's fresh off of a break. Ladies and gentlemen, former NFL quarterback, now ESPN's quarterback

guru, Dan Orlowski. Yeah! Dan, former NFL quarterback, now ESPN's quarterback guru, Dan Orlowski. Dan, you golfing with that lawyer that said he's going to bankrupt me, dude? Potentially. Yeah, I bet you are. Same courses, same clubs. Great to see you. How are you doing, brother? We miss you, Orlowski. I love you, Donald. How are you? I'm great. It's awesome. Good to be back with you guys. I know I texted you like 10 days ago. I was like, hey, I'm coming on the show tomorrow. And you're like, I'm leaving for Hawaii tomorrow. I'm like, great.

So I appreciate the invite. No, no, we're lucky to have you. We missed you this season. We saw you on TV, obviously, saying things that Dan Orlovsky says on television. And we enjoyed it. We enjoyed it all. You had a fantastic year. What did you think of the year?

What did you think of the season as a whole for the NFL, Dan? Yeah, football was awesome. Again, I think like, you know know pat so it's a little bit what we started to see where so 21 where there's so many good teams there's so many ridiculously good young quarterbacks that it's it's every week you're just watching some team that you think is great get beat by another really great team or some team that starts to go on their trend like we kind of watched this year again with Cincinnati at the end of the season. But the quarterback plays as good as it's ever been, probably the best it's ever been as far as like, you know, the amount of people that are really good at the job right now. But awesome season.

Ended a great way. Super Bowl was great outside for that terrible flag. But another good year. Yeah, yeah. It was, you know, I loved it. It was awesome. TJ Lang, I think the only human that I respect that has come out on the other side of that whole thing. But that's TJ Lang.

He's going to do that. Whenever you're talking about the amount of quarterbacks, I think it was the next generation, right? This was the year of the next generation almost, the next chapter of the NFL, and it's in great hands, I think, Dan. Yeah. I mean, so we live in that world, right? Is this guy elite? Can you win games because of him? You do.

You phrase it like that. You live in that world. Yeah, yeah. You live in that world. Yeah, yeah. Of course. I have to. But, you know, like the AFC's got like six or seven guys,

and the NFC's probably got like a guy or two. This draft class has got two, maybe three that are loaded. Okay. Let's dive into it. I like that the future of the NFL is seemingly in great hands. Shout out to all of them. Patty Mahomes is obviously just a phenom. He's absurd.

Jalen Hurts, absolute dog, especially with Sirianni. Even though Steichen's not there anymore. So let's move on here. Let's talk about Steichen. Indianapolis Colts, I was completely out on Anthony Richardson. I could not take a single person serious who's talking about Anthony Richardson because for the first

what, four games, he didn't even throw a fucking touchdown. Didn't even throw a touchdown. When we were down there for Florida-Tennessee for college game day all the signs said i have thrown the same amount of touchdowns as fucking anthony richardson i'm like is that i didn't know that going into the game then i looked it up then after like his fourth in his fourth game i think he threw two touchdowns one interception and two touchdowns one interception one touchdown one interception it was like one touchdown zero. And it was like one touchdown, zero interceptions. It was like two, zero, three, zero, one, zero. Like he really came on late as a passer.

And then I started watching his highlights here because everybody's gassing him up. Hey, he's going to be a Colt, huh? He's going to be unbelievable. He's stiking this guy. Let's go, Dan. Let's go. All right, a couple things. First of all, your tan looks tremendous.

You do. Second of all, I saw the tweet. No disrespect to anybody, but you did take game day, and I've told you this. You did take it to a new level this year. So I know you mentioned game day, Florida, all that stuff. All right. Thank you. It's a great show.

It's funny that you mention Richardson and Indy. So I just flew back this morning with my family, iPad. I called the Utah-Florida game, so his first game of the year. I rewatched that game, and all I was thinking about watching him run and throw, because he could absolutely throw it, was, man, I wonder if saying – how do you say the last thing? Stichen? Stichen.

Not Spikeman? Spikeman. Spikeman is how Gavone introduced him. Yeah, right. Stichen. I was sitting there watching going, I wonder if Shane Steichen is going to fall in love with this dude because of the success he had in Philly calling the plays with Jalen

and just the threat of the run and how Jalen, like that offense became so difficult to defend because of it. I called the Utah game, like I said, and I was like, yeah, he's top ten talent. His talent is off the charts. And I know people sit there and go, well, look at him as a pocket passer. Not trying to be disrespectful, but go watch what he was throwing to at Florida last year. Their number one receiver was their transfer from Arizona State wide receiver. I forget his name.

But they didn't have guys on the outside But they didn't have guys on the outside. They didn't have guys on the outside. Florida stinks. What is that? Florida stinks. Dude, their talent on offense on the perimeter was so subpar. I think he's super naturally talented. Let's go.

Everything you hear about him. Now, I've gotten in trouble on your show saying things that you hear, but everything you hear about him is like. Wow, I've gotten sued trouble on your show saying things that you hear, but everything you hear about him is like, great dude, works his tail off, super smart. He's telling you, man, like, now is he ready to play? No. But he has got superstar potential talent-wise.

Okay, well, we need a guy that's ready to play now. You know what I mean? You need to call up your guy, Matt Ryan, tell him to stay down in Atlanta. I saw him at the Hawks game. Here's what I would say, Pat. that's ready to play now. You know what I mean? You need to call up your guy Matt Ryan and tell him to stay down in Atlanta. I saw him at the Hawks game. Here's what I would say, Pat. I like what I would say. I always say, like, I shouldn't have said that. The ready to play thing, I think, is such a silly statement

because no kid is ready to play. I've said this. Does he have a skill set that will allow him as a young player to survive the NFL? Now, that skill set could be cannon arm, it could be super smart, it could be crazy athleticism. We saw that with Justin Fields a little bit last year that allowed him to survive a bad situation. Now I think he's ready to thrive. This kid has athleticism that will allow him to survive, that if he's grown the right way, because he needs to get so much better mechanically in the pocket,

but he can, dude, he's got superstar potential. What was that thing you said? Natural versus unnatural football thrower, and it's baseball. Basically taking the ball here to here. Does he do that or no? Yeah, but that, no, that's not him. No, no, no. He's got a really natural throwing motion.

I just think more of his feet. Like sometimes he's so talented throwing-wise. His throwing motion is very natural. It's almost like Jared Goff natural. I think sometimes like his feet get so close together. I'm just saying the motion, the throwing motion. Throwing him in. Goff had a good year. But I think his feet get so close together. All right just saying the motion, the throwing motion. Bring him in. Golf had a good year.

But I think his feet get too close together. All right, Connor has a question. So he's going to be a quarterback. I think Indy has to go get a quarterback, yes. I think Indy has to go get a quarterback. Has to. Do you think we have now Bryce Young is what, 5'10 or something like that? No offense, Bryce Young.

This is stats. Stats are stats. The NFL is the men's league. And quarterbacks are going to get hit standing like this, murdered like this, and hit this way with their heads going this way. Bryce Young is allegedly the Steph Curry of football. C.J. Stroud, we watched him live in person. Big, strong.

He was on a show. Dog talked a little shit. I appreciate that. Will Levis out of Kentucky, big dude. Everybody's saying could potentially become a great NFL quarterback because there's other players of the past that have looked like him that have gone on to do great like Josh Allen and such. Those four clear top four, and how would you rank them at this exact moment? Now, three out of those four are participating in the combine, throwing.

CJ, Will, and Anthony Richardson are all throwing at the combine. right cj right will and anthony richardson are all throwing at the combine so who knows what that means i think that lifts them in my eyes no matter how they do what are your thoughts on those four and is it those four just interchangeably and will somebody have to go to one to get all of these guys so i bryce young cj stroud richardson levis for me right now as i sit here today. Does that worry you? He's this big? Yo, I honestly, like, I think it is going to be so individually, individualized, the Bryce Young thing.

Got it. Because he is little. I, like, I've lived in the world. Yeah, I think he's unbelievable. Like, I think his talent, it's Bryce Young. Like, it is player-wise because here's the thing, Pat. You watch him play and you go player-wise, that's the guy. Just watch the guys play the quarterback position.

Bryce is the best player. But there will be teams, and it's their right to be there. Nope, the size thing, I'm not doing it. And here's the reality. It's really hard. I'd challenge anybody to find a guy as little as Bryce that we see in the NFL right now balling. Yeah. Or we have for the last 20 years.

Bro, it's important. I think that would be a tough, and this is not Bryce's fault. There's literally nothing Bryce could do about this. He is a baller. He is different. He is an anomaly. He's an anomaly. He is a baller.

He is different. He is an anomaly. But every time you watch football, like, guys are great. And then can they handle grown fucking men attempting to make a legacy and a living while tackling them? It's a tough thing that people have to think about. I think the thing, Pat, is going to be this. It's going to have to be an owner going, I'm totally good with the size. Well, Jim.

Jim Irsay. And good with the size. Well, Jim, Jim, and here's the thing. What are you willing? What are you willing to roll the dice on? And then Chris Ballard goes, Oh, we can trade back. They're in the press conference.

They are pretty good. Well, we can trade back. I'm fucking sick of this shit. I'm so much more willing to roll the dice that he's going to be good or he won't fail because he can't play more than he'll fail because of his size. He can flat out play. Got it. Connor has a question for you, Dan.

Yeah, Dan, first I just want to give you your flyers because you were 100% right on the Patriots and Mac Jones and I don't think people do that enough. We dogged you for it. We did, big time. Because that was your number one concern. Do you remember that? My number one concern. You were right on. And you were correct. And also, I'm sick of people

stealing your shit because I see it too much on social and on TV. But when you look at the Bears situation, I forget who brought it up on one of the shows that you host, co-host, for those 170 days. The Justin Fields being traded for some sort of top five. Tannenbaum. Tannenbaum.

He would be traded so that they could take maybe Bryce Young or one of the guys that you think is a total, complete stud, going to be a star. What do you think about that and do you think that that there's any sort of validation to that I mean there's absolutely validation because it's the number one pick so I can understand like the theory behind it as far as the starting point I wouldn't do it I think if you're the Bears you have to number one go who do we think is the best long-term prospect? It's not just about resetting the quarterback financial market. The Jets did that two years ago with Sam Darnold and Zach Wilson, and the main reasoning was let's reset the quarterback financial time frame for our organization.

That obviously didn't turn out. So who do they think is going to be the better player long-term? Right now, as much as i love bryce i feel better watching justin's body of work in two years in the nfl i really do he was the only positive for the bears was he not he was the only positive and then tannenbaum says that he's former general manager and then we start talking about it we're like actually maybe you know because because justin could you probably could get probably good trade for how good Justin Fields looks. Well, I think that's the next step, Pat, is if you're the Bears,

what do we think we can trade the number one pick for in comparison to what do we think we can get for Justin Fields? And I think the number one pick is going to be able to get way more than what Justin's going to get you, mainly because if you're a team and you need a young quarterback and you trade for Justin, you basically have like a year and a half to figure out until you have to pay him, and that's a new start for you as well. So I think there's quarterback desperate teams, obviously,

but I don't think Chicago should trade him. Me neither. We love Justin Fields. He was like the only upside almost. We have a Chicago Bears fan, obviously, but I don't think Chicago should trade him. Me neither. We love Justin Fields. He was like the only upside on this. We have a Chicago Bears fan, obviously, in the building. No, they were done. And they have the number one pick. They sucked. Think about it. They were terrible. We're on the clock. Yeah, they have the number one pick, and he accounted for, what, like 25

plus touchdowns? And they have the number one pick. That tells you how much their roster stinks. Yeah, they stunk, and the only thing that brought any happiness to Zito is, oh, Justin. Justin Fields. Justin Fields. Yep. Yeah, he's running all over.

That was literally the only thing. And then all of a sudden. You know what I'd say, too, Pat, real quick. I don't want to cut you off. Dan, you're sure. I also think C.J. Stroud is going to benefit from Justin's performance because the whole knock of, like, the Ohio State quarterbacks, well, we haven't seen one good.

And the last thing I'll say on the rookies, because I know there's an – I can take C.J. Stroud's – everyone's going to talk about the Georgia tape. I can take his Wisconsin tape and put it up against any quarterback that's come out in – Did he run in that game? A little bit, but – I think that's why – I think that's why everybody's talking about the Georgia game because he ran. I think it's because he ran.

But we live in this world right now where we talk about quarterbacks and it's like, how much can he create on his own? One, maybe some guys don't need to because they're so good at everything else. And then the second thing is, while he may not be as creative as, I don't know, Bryce is, we talk about him like he's been a statue. Like if you're not this incredibly creative guy, you can't get yourself out of bad stuff. Watch him in those games. Watch the Notre Dame games.

Watch him. I'm telling you, I could put his Wisconsin tape against any quarterback that has come out of the draft in three years. We love CJ. Oh, yeah. We got to watch him, obviously, for that megacast live. Like, I got to see. Like, just look at him. I'm like, oh, that's a Sunday quarterback.

Like, you could literally, like, look at him and be like, that's a Sunday quarterback. Then he came on the show. Awesome. And then now he's throwing at the combine. Doesn't have to. Fucking love that. Like, everything he's doing, I'm a massive fan of,

I'll be excited to see how those four kind of fall into place. He's the best passer in the draft. Just as far as like guys that can just purely, if we're just want you to go, Hey, who can throw it the best. It's bright. It's CJ Stroud.

I think I saw you steal this from Kurt Warner, but Kurt tweeted, he said, how come we always talk about guys extending plays and everything like that? Do we think maybe they just missed the read? Like some guys just can't make as good of read on something, so they have to run. He was like, I feel like there's a misjudgment on some things.

And it's kind of to your point about how we feel like everybody has to be able to run and do this. He was like, but if a guy can dissect a defense and do it, probably don't need to do that as much. It's an interesting convo because we're in the transition of the nfl right now dan transition of the nfl right now joey burrow i think is really the cerebral pocket passer of the nfl but patrick mahomes where are they like nine ten and oh whenever he throws 90 from inside the pocket it's like you got to be able to do both i think but the both is certainly becoming a lot more prevalent as opposed to just one. Ty has a question for you moving on.

Dan, I think it was before the Colts hired Steichen, there were a lot of rumors going around about you potentially being some sort of offensive coach. I know the last time we talked to you, you said that you're definitely interested, but obviously you've been having a great time on TV. Do you anticipate this moving forward every offseason where your name is going to get thrown into some sort of coaching role? And at what point do you think you'll actually seriously consider

maybe coaching as opposed to being an analyst? Yeah, we got Cooter anyway. Yeah, JBC. One, it's flattering and super like, super humbling that it happens, too. I hope that I do a good enough job on television that it happens annually. Yeah. I don't know. Like, I think part of the conversations that I've had is a lot of the

connections that I have with some of the coaches. Either I played for them or they were a different position coach on the staff that you know a team that I played on or just guys that I've built relationships with so I think that's part of it you know is having some connections with those guys that are in those conversations I hope that it continues to be a you know an off-season thing for me because I'll always I don't want to say always but I very much so think about it. And I think the farther I get removed from playing, which is like five years now, the more I want to do it.

I came really close this year. I'll be honest with you. Where? I came very close this year. Us? Who? Indy. I had some good conversations with Indy.

I came really close to another team just from relationships and I think where they sit as a football team and the city that they're in and what I think they're going to do at quarterback and all that. So it was out there. I mean, Carolina I came really close with. Hey, it's good leverage, too, for you for ESPN. I mean, Gruden, he sent some emails, obviously, a long time ago. But he also, and probably more recently, we don't know.

We didn't get to see all of his emails. But he literally, every single offseason, was being approached to become a head coach. And everybody's like, that's bullshit. It's like, no, very real. And then all of a sudden, his ESPN deal, boom, this thing's going up another $10 million. Boom, it's going up.

It's only good, Dan, if people want you. And I'm happy for you that people want you. No, and it's flattering. It is. And I had some really good, deep, long conversations with the people there and my wife. And, you know, I think like right now with where our kids are, 11 and 7, and kind of the – I also said this to them like I don't know how good

I don't want to say that because it sounds like a corny comment but like I just don't know where this TV thing could go right now and it just continues to go well and I'm having fun so don't be the Joel Dahman of TV haven't gotten to that episode yet haven't gotten to that episode yet

how many episodes you watch? just two i've only done um kepka and uh what jt yeah jt awesome uh kepka also kepka had to go to live yeah he never thought he was going to win another tournament that guy's one it was fascinating to listen to him to listen him talking back you can't beat those guys hey that's kicker punters right there that's legit That's like whenever you get to the point where you're like, I don't know if I can do it anymore. Cause you're comparing yourself to your former self. So then you're comparing your now versus what you were doing against people then against them.

So it was like after watching that full swing, which I thought was fantastic, by the way, shout out to all parties involved there. I watched it after watching it. It was like, he had like where his mind was. He thought he was never going to win another golf tournament again. It seemed like just from watching. And then he's got $100 million coming.

It's like, all right. Okay. I will do that. Same with Poulter. Poulter was the same thing. Poulter wanted to play. I heard Poulter's episode was good. Great.

I heard it was a good episode. Yeah. Great. Whenever you watch it, you'll become a massive fan of his And then you'll completely understand why he took A massive amount of money Instead of staying on the beat I feel like we're understanding a lot more from it

Which most docuseries kind of do for you But I thought it was very well done I think you'll enjoy it all Tony has a question for you Dan you feel like a good person to ask this Because you do cover the college game and the professional game I was as a Steelers fan disappointed to hear that Question for you. Dan, you feel like a good person to ask this because you do cover the college game and the professional game. I was, as a Steelers fan, disappointed to hear that Monken was going to be the OC for the Ravens because it feels like he could be the perfect fit for Lamar.

How do you see that going? You got to pay him. I think it's the perfect, perfect, ideal match for Lamar. So calling the Georgia games, I remember sitting with Monk in this year and I just, I said to him, I said, you guys have the number one offense in college football and you hang 45 on everybody and you really don't have outside of the tight end. They really don't have like this guy on the outside wide receiver wise. You're like, oh man, of course you do.

You know, like, of course you're throwing for 350 yards a game and um I think the big takeaway that I had from him was like this guy completely understands how to take what he has individually what are they really good at and how does he just force those guys to excel in certain areas you You know, and not just saying this is what we do. It's like, oh, this kid's really good at this, and this kid stinks at this, and this kid's really good at this. So we're only going to live in the – and we're going to do it all in different kinds of ways. And I think that's what Baltimore needs right now. I think that's offensively what they need right now because they don't have –

outside of Mark, they don't really have a guy on the outside. Bateman could potentially become a guy. And I think for Lamar, for him to take the next step, for him to, like, I don't know, get himself, maybe get the national narrative around him gone, of, like, he's still only just the guy that is a runner. Lamar and Lula was the – That's interesting.

Is that what you guys were saying about him over there? Is that what you guys were saying? No, but there's still – I remember in the playoffs this year, people were talking about Philadelphia and how you can't win a championship running that style of offense. You can't, you can't, you can't. Obviously, Kansas City won, but we don't get to see the ending. So, yes, that corny narrative is still accurate.

I agree, I agree. It's mostly because of what you guys say, though. Just want to let you know. You guys kind of set the narratives. I'm proud of you guys for that. You've become one of those narrative setters. Good for you, man. Look at you. And I think Lamar is best suited for a pro-style offense.

Hey, Lamar, he's still got to get paid, bro. They're like $100 million off, allegedly. I can't understand it. All these reports of contracts, though, when you guys are talking about them on ESPN, do you have to take it with a grain of like, oh, this is probably leverage from one side or the other, these reports of what the numbers are?

Them coming out and saying, we offered Lamar $133 million guaranteed, that is clearly from Baltimore's side to their fans saying, we're trying, you know what I mean? And Lamar's not. I do now because of your show. Okay. To be honest.

Okay, sweet. Well, I'm happy. Hey, we're narrative. Hey, look at us. Hey, we're back. That's sweet. Hell yeah. Back.

Hey, man. I mean, talking about that's maybe not Lamar's situation, but I think I was watching one time. I don't know if I was watching live or the internet, and you were like, there's all these different leaks or ways that they try to paint the picture and this and that, and you broke it down. And I was like, oh, he's probably right. Yeah, yeah, because it's business.

It's just like classic business. If you want to make your fan base happy with you and not look bad, you're obviously going to paint the picture that, hey, we've tried. I think it was a Dak. That's when we first started looking. It was Jerry and Dak. And they were like, we offered him $70 million, and he just refused to do it.

Is Dak worth more than that? It's kind of what the reporters were saying. And then the Cowboys fans were like, he isn't. It's the same thing happening with Daniel Jones right now. The $45 million thing, it's like, is that real? We don't know. We haven't heard if that's real or not. But we got Giants fans.

Hey, hold on, though. We got Giants fans saying, get him the fuck out of town if he wants the 45 million. It's like, do we know if that's even real? It's crazy. That's the time of year we're in right now, Dan. Yeah, when we were at the Pro Bowl, we were chatting with Saquon, and Saquon was like almost getting into like,

not a fight, but like adamant, Daniel Jones is getting $45 million this year. And we were sitting there going, there's no way. Like, there's no way. He was like, bro, Daniel Jones is getting $45 million this offseason. We were all like, what do you know that we don't know? Because that seems like a very large amount of money for him. Good players proved he's earned some money, but 45. But yeah, I think, you know, Baltimore dude, like I can't fathom Baltimore moving forward without Lamar Jackson. None of us can.

That's why we're like, get a deal done. But we have to talk about it every single, like when he doesn't play and people are saying like, he's limping around the whole thing, the automatic conversation is like, well, he's not playing because they didn't pay him. It's like that shouldn't even be a conversation right now. He's Lamar Jackson.

He's already won an MVP. He's won a playoff game. He is the Baltimore Ravens. Pay the guy. You know what? And a few seasons ago, so the 20 season when – right? So, yeah, the 2020 season when they were the number one seed he was carrying that team that was dead remember they had historical injuries four running backs out yeah

yeah the whole team they had like 30 guys on ir and they were he was still carrying the team to a number one seed with like a month left if i was baltimore i would sit there and go that's the evidence we have that while we're going to allocate a lot of money to him, he's proven to be capable of carrying a roster that may not be as loaded as some cheaper quarterbacks can have. Yeah, and if they pay him then, they don't have to deal with the Deshaun Watson deal that happened because Haslam gave him $230 million guaranteed. Dan, we know you've got to go to work. We can't thank you enough for joining us. We miss you, bud.

Hell of a season out of you. Good to be back. Hell of a season out of you, Dan. Are you excited for this? I had to end it. Are you at the end of the week? Thursday, Friday? Yeah, yeah, back Thursday. Oh, yeah, Thursday we're having a happy hour show. Thursday we're going. Are you coming to town?

What time? I am. Oh, you want to come in the studio Thursday? What time, bud? I think we're going. Are you coming to town? What time? I am. What time? Oh, you want to come in the studio Thursday? What time, Bob? I think we're going to go like 4. You don't watch NFL Live, do you? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're live. You're live.

We do watch NFL Live. Is the combine at 7? I'll text you. We'll figure it out. You come in studio. We're outside the city. I'll come. If the window works, I'll come.

Oh, yeah. We'll come if you come. Ain't that right? Amen. Oh, my God. Could you imagine this guy fresh off the beach? Look how tan he looks. There you go.

Oh, Dan, you look good, pal. You look dope. A lot of coming going on. We can't appreciate you enough. Ladies and gentlemen, the face of ESPN, Dan Orlowski. He's a good boy. I bet you he's great at pickleball. I bet you he playsowski. He's great at pickleball. I bet you he plays.

He probably is great at pickleball. He couldn't handle me with that. No. The black ace. With the ace, no. All right, so he said Bryce Young, C.J. Stroud, Anthony Richardson, Will Levis. Yeah. Right?

Is that what he said? Yeah, that's what he said. Two definite stars. Guys in the draft. So that would be the first two. That Bryce Young thing scares the shit out of me, just strictly because I saw Matt Ryan have to pick himself up off the ground so many times, and it's like, need a little girth on my guy.

You know what I mean? Need a little shock collar around the body. Because he does have that ability, like how mahomes scrambles and like never gets sacked but i mean they're gonna get you once yeah it's gonna happen like even with tua like tua they got the best left tackle in the in the entire free agency no offense yeah no offense this is no offense we are just strictly talking about if we were to be investing into the face of our franchise which the Colts are very close to doing that. So Houston is looking for a guy.

Obviously, there's other teams that are going to get up into the mix. Carolina, maybe, who knows if they have enough to get up in there. There's a lot of teams that are going to be looking for a quarterback. And these are all the actual conversations that the owners and GMs are having. Do they have the talent? Bryce Young definitely has the talent. Can he survive the NFL? That's a real question that is allowed to be asked, I think.

He's also just like, I mean, if you're taking him with the first pick, like he could be the outlier. He could be one of these small guys who goes on and plays unbelievable. But like when the only other guys you can point to are like, well, yeah, Drew Brees and Russell Wilson are the same size. It's like those are two guys in the last fucking 30 years. Russ is a little thicker. He is, for sure.

Well, certainly. Now he is, at least. I mean, when he got drafted, I think he was probably pretty similar to what Bryce Young is. Also, you mentioned it. I don't love that he's not thrown at the combine. Everyone else is. So they never used to, right?

Last year, nobody really threw except for... I saw a... Yeah, it's like almost standard operating procedure that they don't throw. Burrow never throws. Malik did last year, right? I think he was the... So the fact that CJ is throwing, I think is... I think GMs, me as a fan, love it.

I didn't like that Will Levis sat out of the bowl game. Right. I didn't like it, but I guess he's fucking tough for it. Yeah, now it makes sense. Iowa Hawkeye defense, you know, you don't want to fucking just – Absolutely torpedo your draft stock. Yeah, I mean, he didn't have a great year, I don't think, with that Kentucky team to begin with.

But like I didn't like the fact that he opted out of his teammates, like one last time with their teammates. Like in my eyes, if I'm a GM, it's like I want a guy that wants to play with his team like that whole thing but business-wise would have made no sense for will levis to play in that whole game and that whole conversation is certainly an old school new school type thing that is taking place i couldn't fathom i got a chance to play with pat white you know what I mean? And it was his birthday the other day, and I got to give him the proper amount of flowers that he deserves, and it felt like the internet gave him a lot of flowers.

Chief would have never in a million years. You know what I mean? And he was obviously getting talked about going to the NFL. We played in the Monarchy Car Care Bowl our senior year. We're supposed to go to the Natty junior year. Senior year, we're new coaching staff, new offense coordinator, new everything. We go to the Monarchy Car Care Bowl. This dude was celebrating after it like we just won a fucking big time

because he wanted to. And now it's a whole new, and obviously players can get hurt in their bowl game and can fuck up their draft, and that's a whole conversation that has to take place. I get it. And Will Levis, obviously top three quarterback in everybody's mind business wise makes sense but whenever i see like cj stroud's numbers and i see like bryce young's numbers and then i saw like will levis's numbers and i'm like yo bro like there's a chance you're a colt next year like yes i would like to see you you know want to play with your teammates. I would assume his teammates and his team were like, do not play in this worth nothing game.

It's just a whole different world. But them throwing, I think, is like a cool thing. Like, okay, we feel lucky to be at the combine. I was not invited to the combine. These people are feeling lucky to be at the combine. And, you know, we will throw to guys that we've never fucking worked with. I have no idea what the timing is going to be with this guy on a go route but i'm going to go slinging the rock to the guy like i respect and appreciate that and i think there's a lot of gms in a league

that'll be like if a guy has a bad performance at the combine with wide receivers he's never thrown to they'd be like a happy fucking pro day the guy's competitive yeah the guy's competitive and wants to throw and wants to do his thing so So there's so many different ways to go about it, and I sound like an old guy in my front yard, I guess, yelling at a cloud. But it's like I just want to see guys that won't compete, won't be good teammates, and guys that we can invest in to be the face of our franchise. And I like that CJ, Brass, AR, Will are all throwing.

I like it. I love it, actually. I'm a big fan of that. Well, and we always talk about, like, being a dog. Don't need to run. No. No, no, are all throwing. I like it. I love it, actually. I'm a big fan of that. We always talk about being a dog. Don't need to run. No. No, no, no. Don't need to do the bench.

Football, though. Let's do football. That feels like a dog thing to do. Go out there and perform. When called upon, you do it. What you said about the numbers thing, that's why this one's so interesting. When you put all those numbers up,

and then you put Hendon Hooker's numbers next to all these guys well he's almost he's almost the best guy on there but because he tore his acl he's probably not going to be available to you know or he probably will still be available in like the second third round i can hear chris ballard right now if you listen to anything jim ursa says publicly about how much chris ballard loves picks and trading back and that is is Chris Ballard's MO. Him going, Jim, I think we can get fucking, I think we get like four picks if we trade out of four and go Henning Hooker's going to be stiking. You like Henning Hooker? Guy can run.

Let's look at his ACL. We'll look, fucking look at his ACL. I think we can get him like 20. We go down to like 20. They're not even talking. And if McAfee shut the fuck up and Daniel Jeremiah put Henning Hooker in his top 50, this is the first time we can get him like 20. We go down to like 20. They're not even talking. And if McAfee shut the fuck up and Daniel Jeremiah put Hennon Hooker in his top 50, this is the first time we've seen him in any of the draft people's things. And I got to see a lot of him last year because obviously game day followed Tennessee a lot.

And we did. And I watched a lot of film on the guy. He is a baller. Yes. Not even being talked about in this whole conversation, I guess, because the ACL. We shall see how it pans out. There's going to be a lot of that the next couple months, huh? We weren't here, but

when Jim was like, quarterback, Alabama, number one. Or we could trade back. Chris Ballard said that. I would have never thought like this before, but you have changed my thinking on things. I thought for sure that Chris and Jim

planned that ahead of time for Jim to go out there and be like, I mean, maybe it was a work. We have no idea if that was a work. You know what I mean? I have no idea. But if they're playing poker up there, Jim's like, I'm going to let everybody know that we love Bryce Young. Hey, Shane, we're going to use your press conference as a little leverage here.

Hey, Shane, welcome to the team. We're working. Do what you got to do. We're doing the top team, aggressive, blah, blah, blah. Pew, pew, pew. And then shots. Shots, shots, shots. Pew, pew, pew, pew, pew.

Coach Gannon down in Houston, happy he's in the AFC South, I think. No. No. Arizona. Sorry, Arizona. So sorry. Happy he is in it. D'Amico Ryan's not happy he's in it.

Yeah, right. Arizona, though. Pew, pew, pew, pew, pew. Shot. I saw a tweet. Shot, shot, shot. I saw a tweet. Happy he isn't. D'Amico Ryan's not happy he isn't. Yeah, right. Arizona, though. Shot. I saw a tweet. I saw a tweet. I was in Hawaii. Yeah. Don't want to say it too often, but people might be tuning in wondering why my skin is the color it is.

I got fourth-degree sunburn day one out there. I was told there wasn't going to be any sun the whole week. They were wrong. There was a lot of sun. Turns out sun still has its fastball. And it does work through the clouds. So that's wild. That's what they say, yeah, because you're not paying attention.

And I certainly was not. But whenever I opened my phone, and I put my phone away for a few days. It felt really good. Haven't been able to do that in years. Was still plugged in. Sure. On a string. Let's see if there was an alien in. Sure. Not, you know, on a string. Let's see if there was an alien in Hawaii or something.

Boom. And I was looking. Pretty cloudy at night. Didn't really get to see much. Kind of fucked up. Didn't see any aliens. But are they controlling the clouds, though? Exactly.

Are they the clouds? They are the clouds. I watched a movie where they're the clouds. Nope. Yep. Yeah. There was that bird also over break. Oh, yeah.

Just. Of course there was. Mm-hmm. This is literally what the bird was doing. Yeah. over a street that was wild welcome to the black parade gentlemen but i opened it and the tweet i saw was the arizona cardinals hired michael scott as their head yeah and then i tweet i picked i clicked the video and he was like, boom, boom, boom, boom. Shots, shots, shots, shots. Creatives.

Boom. Explosives. Run the video. This is what I saw. What's up? Hey! What's up, man? How you doing? Good. Good. Shoo, shoo, shoo, shoo, shoo. Shots. Explosives. Explosives.

You can run. Genius. I loved it. Genius. I was so happy. Him and Sirianni were on the same coaching staff. That's right. No wonder they made it to the fucking series.

Uh-huh. This hour we got baseball. Hell yeah. And we are known to be a baseball show. We are known to be a baseball operation. The Toxic Tip was here at Boston Corner at Ty Schmidt. One half of the hammer. Done! Cowboys tone. Diggs, is your

tone? How was that? Did you gamble at all during the break? Couldn't. Wouldn't. I couldn't either. I was in a state. That's tough. It is. What are we doing? Is it 1915? What's the deal? I was legal everywhere. I actually enjoyed stepping away from the gambling for a little bit.

I mean, you've been in the batter's box just every day. Right. I guess I like this parlay. I like this parlay. I thought back today, I was like, oh, college basketball still happening. I was fucking handicapped. College basketball isn't just happening. It is thriving.

College basketball has March Madness happening right now. Yeah. And we all know the old saying, January, Izzo blows an 11-point lead in 55 seconds. That's right. March, April, May. You know how it all goes. I just, I don't, I'm not a big college basketball watcher. No.

Okay? Like the Texas team, got to meet them, obviously. Like the way they're playing basketball. A lot of things. I forgot about that. So I'm not really into, not like a big college basketball guy. I just so happen upon the last four minutes of Iowa-Michigan State, and I actually sent a text in to the group,

boy, Iowa's getting their fucking dick kicked in. Like, doing it just to shit talk, because a new tie and Evan were definitely watching the game, and I just so happened to turn it on. I'm like, this Iowa team is a disgrace. And then there's somebody like, tough barns? No, I was at home. I was at home getting their asses beat.

And then all of a sudden, shots, explosive, boom, bang. Exactly. You guys got three whites that just started putting it in. And Michigan State embarrassed the entire Mitten State. So bad. You guys got three whites that just started putting it in. And Michigan State embarrassed the entire Mitten State. So bad. That's tough to do, dude. And obviously the stare down is where it all began.

Once the coach of Iowa decided to look at this ref and say nothing, just let his eyes do the talking. You've been on some fuckboy shit all day today, basically what the coach said. Pretty much. And then the ref, I appreciate the ref. Yeah. You've been on some fuckboy shit all day today. Basically what the coach said. Pretty much. And then the ref, I appreciate the ref. The ref goes, touch me. I'm fucking ready.

And then he just turns around, goes back. And from that point forward, the Hawkeyes were dogs. Yeah. They didn't miss. The hoop got this big after that stare down. Should have been a technical game. Would have been actually over after that happened. He did get teed up with about two minutes left. So that's when I was like,

okay, this game's fucking over. Here we go. Is Iowa good? Iowa does it again. They're, I mean, they're going to make the tournament for sure. Okay.

For sure. They don't really have like one star per se, but that's their problem is at home, they shoot like that on the road. They can get beat by anybody. And what happened to Michigan State?

You guys just suck? No, no, no. Michigan State was literally made everything. On fire. They can get beat by anybody. And what happened to Michigan State? You guys just suck? No, no, no. Michigan State literally made everything. On fire. They were shooting like 70% from three. Making all the free throws too. Exactly. And then for whatever reason Stare down. Stare down. So Iowa kept fouling.

Michigan State would make two. Iowa would come down and hit a three. Numbers game. They'd foul again and they just couldn't. And then they just needed Michigan State to miss one free throw. They did. Michigan State didn't foul with nine seconds left. Gave Iowa a beautiful. Which is a big problem.

A lot of people are pissed about it. Go to OT, and then I don't think. And then Iowa just fucking manhandled them in OT. Michigan State plus five and a half did not cover. No. That's it. And they were up by 11 with 55 seconds left. Basketball is certainly an interesting sport.

I did enjoy that. And the Iowa men get a big win over Michigan State. We assumed Michigan State would do great in the tournament. See, no, that would have been a huge win for this Michigan State team. You've got to beat a team on the road like that. It's so hard. And this is when I always start saying January, February, Izzo, Izzo, Izzo. But instead they choked it away, and I'm really nervous.

I don't know how you come back from that. And once again, Michigan State people, I would know nothing about your sport or your school or your team if it wasn't for Foxy. Michigan people in general, Detroit fans too, you've got to understand Pat's just chirping, and that's sports. And you guys are soft. You guys are soft. It's fun.

And that's okay. It's completely okay. I learned a lot about your state. But the whole tweet about January, Izzo blows an 11-point lead in 55 seconds, March, April, the responses were awesome. They were absolutely incredible.

I respect the Michigan State people. I respect the fact you guys are going to have another early disappointing exit from the March Madness tournament. Definitely. Because that's what we had to live the last couple years with Foxy. Flip side.

I was watching. Look at me, by the way. Yeah. I'm starting to become a little bit more well-rounded. Sure. Hey, you're a sports talk show host. Watch sports. Sure.

Might as well. Okay. So I started doing that recently. Started watching other sports other than just football. NBA, too. And I love the NBA, especially because they got guys like Dame Dala who are able to drop a freestyle on a plane during a delay and then two days later drop fucking 70 points or whatever.

And then I like the fact that they're having conversations. Which 70-point performance was more impressive? Scored 70 in one fucking game, four quarters. It's all impressive. But the Iowa women, I was watching. They were doing a warm-up. Somebody was talking, and warm-ups was happening behind them. And all I saw was splash, splash, splash.

And I thought they were at an NBA. Didn't have sound on my TV. I thought they were at an NBA game. I turn on the sound in the background. It's the fucking Hawkeyes women's team. They have snipers all over. I don't the sound in the background, it's the fucking Hawkeyes women's team. Yeah. They have snipers all over. I don't think anybody hit the rim for like six minutes.

It was just splash, splash, splash, splash. It was one of the most impressive things. And then they beat Indiana, I think, last minute with... Yeah, buzzer beater. Caleb Clark. They're the greatest. Is that the greatest shooting team of all time? I watched their warm-ups, and I felt like I was watching the NBA warm-ups with the way it was.

And it was maybe just like a 30-second hit or a 35-second. I didn't see the ball hit a rim all time. I watched their warm-ups and I felt like I was watching the NBA warm-ups with the way it was. And it was maybe just like a 30 second hit or a 35 second. I didn't see the ball hit a rim one time. I'm like, what the fuck are they drinking in Iowa over there? Because this was shortly after, I think, the men's team. Yeah, it was the day after. Yeah, it was right after the men's team. The only time I watched

them play, they didn't even those shots they were hitting not even, those things were splash splash i'm like iowa is the birthplace for jumpers all of a sudden it feels like your women's team might be the team yeah they're i mean they're top five they're one of the bet caitlin clark is must watch tv she really is like she she pulls up from like steph curry range she's fucking unbelievable scores you know 35 plus every single game and then yeah i mean as an as an iowa fan that was probably one of one of if not the most memorable weekend of

iowa sports in general yeah the the men have a that buzzer beater sending into overtime uh indiana i think's ranked two the women beat them and then iowa's baseball team beat number one LSU. So it was like, hey, let's go. Hot guys. Yeah, perfect storm. Perfect storm as an Iowa fan. I think the Mountaineers baseball team is real good, by the way. And the West Virginia Rifle team, national champ. Obviously. Listen, we get into any, allegedly there's conflict potentially brewing,

go ahead and get in the bunker that has the West Virginia Rifle alumni and the West Virginia rifle current team. We're talking snipers. Headshots. They have the ability to keep their heart rate so low. They're locked in. Was Trouble Brew? Huh?

Trouble Brew? Before we went on break, I don't know. I turned it all on. There was a lot of Trouble Brewing. Before we went to break, I thought the world was ending. That's kind of why. I stopped looking at my phone. I was like, fuck.

You can't turn it off. Yeah, nothing happened. The world yeah exactly peaceful for like 10 days yeah nothing i think we're still in that i mean i got sued that happened yeah can't turn your phone off to that showed up in my front door early too by the way probably didn't do the snyder just duct tape the hands and pockets nobody's home yeah the dogs are just barking so loud that guy's up there. Let's move along. Yeah, he's... That's awesome.

Exactly. We'll talk about that. We need to talk about baseball, though. Hell yeah. Speaking about sports. And we've become... Is there a tornado watch going on? We are in the middle of a tornado watch right now.

Are you nervous that Ravshi might get sucked up by one of these tornadoes on his way up here? He might get sucked up. He's supposed to be... I think he's flying in right now. There's no way to land him. Ooh, yeah. Definitely. Probably not. No, he's... They're probably circling around. He's on his way up here? He might get sucked up. He's supposed to be, I think he's flying in right now. There's no way they're landing. Ooh, yeah, definitely, probably not. No, they're probably circling around. He's on his ninth or tenth cocktail.

Ian Rappaport, we hope you land safely. Hope everybody in the sky lands safely, because there is a jet coming through. That's right. Ladies and gentlemen, it is time to talk baseball with the baseball man, a guy who we appreciate and we love, and we get to check in with every once in a while to understand what's going on in the Major League Baseball world. Ladies and gentlemen, from ESPN,

Jeff Passan. Jet, what's up? You know, Pat, when you kept saying splash, splash, splash, I thought you were talking about Connor and his Lululemons. I knew something was coming, I just didn't know how. Bro, how about this guy? 27 years old. 27 years old. Had a margarita, a couple tacos. All of a sudden, he's splattering his pants in his toilet.

I didn't know adults did that, but the guy had a great break, Jet. Honestly, if there's anybody in that studio right now who would shit his pants, it's 100% Connor. Thank you for living up to the hype. You're looking good, good kid you're looking good yeah you by the way jet you too you too we're in your season right now we are in the middle of baseball we saw you on tv earlier we're so thankful that you get to join us obviously baseball's in the news i texted you late last night where you know i was finally thinking about oh what are we

going to talk about you know what i mean because this is a long time didn't think we're going to be able to get through the first hour. We did. Shout out to Dane Urslavsky. But as I was scanning the interwebs about sports, baseball is in it yet again. And once again, it is not necessarily about the game of baseball. It is about the stuff surrounding

baseball. This particular case, a shot clock was the deciding factor of a game. What type of amateur bullshit are you guys running in the MLB? What is going on in baseball? Do the purists hate it? Do the purists love it? Is it better for baseball as a whole, Jeff Passan?

I will answer the last question first. Yes, it's 100% better for baseball as a whole. Here's why, Pap. I think a big problem that baseball has had, frankly, with our generation and with fans from 12 to 40 years old, is that the games take three plus hours every single night. When you look at going to a movie on a Friday or Saturday night, do you look for the run time beforehand? And if so, when it says three-plus hours, are you immediately like, no, not doing that? Yes. Bingo. Well, except for Avatar.

I left two hours and ten minutes in. But I did sign up to watch it. You know what I mean? But you're right. I think, especially in the world that we're in of scrolling, people are looking at the time of something before they're even giving a thought of whether or not they'd be interested. I think it's a smart idea.

So let me go back to last year in Major League Baseball. The average game time last year was three hours, seven minutes. At the same time, yeah, it's not okay. And at the same time, in the minor leagues, they were testing out this pitch clock. So the way the pitch clock works, if there are no runners on base, you got to throw the ball within 15 seconds. If there are runners on base, you have 20 seconds to throw it. Batter needs to be in the box and ready, set to go with eight seconds left. They implemented these rules in the minor leagues last year, and they cut 25 minutes off of game times. Now, you think, oh, it's just the minor leagues. It's not going to be able to be replicated at the big league level well it's only been three days of major league spring training so far but the average spring training game last year was

three hours and one minute the average game so far this year has been two hours 38 minutes 53 minutes like that off of it and when you take this and put it in concert with some other rules they have in place defensive shifts have been banned and the bases have gotten bigger which cuts down the space between them which makes stolen bases more likely and there are fewer pickoff moves so runners are going to be more apt to go all of these are with two things in mind number one you cut down the time of the game because it's too damn long for people. And number two, you have a better-paced game with more action. Exciting.

You know, Major League Baseball last year had almost four minutes between batted ball events. This is going to lead to more balls being put in play, more action, and showcasing these incredible athletes who are playing today. Say what you will about baseball, the game itself. The players who are playing are absolutely phenomenal. And seeing them showcase their skills even more often and more frequently, it's great for the game. More stealing, more bats.

What, what? Shorter games. What? And being able to gamble on, like, every pitch. Sounds like we might be getting into a prime time for baseball. I know somebody that's excited to ask you a question. Gumpy, what do you got for Jet? Well, well, well.

Good afternoon, Jet. Jet? What's up, you old bastard? God, your hair is even whiter than it was. I suppose that's what happens when you're an international fugitive. Oh! Oh, jeez. Oh, whoa.

Might be getting that handled. Might be getting that handled. Might be getting that handled. You have a question for him, Gump? Yeah, Jet. We've heard a lot about the clock. Has there been any issues with the shift at all? No, not really.

I mean, look, it's very simple. You've got to have two fielders on each side of the second base bag. Now, against left-handed pull hitters, the shortstop is going to be moving over pretty close to the bag. But if he's on the wrong side of it, you know, they can either be called by the umpire or can review it in replay. You can't review the pitch clock, stuff like that. Someone better not be throwing you a damn pitch, Pat. You're not going to do that today. Don't even try to sneak that shit by me, man. Come on. Oh, come on! You still got to be vaccinated to play in Toronto? Good question.

I think that's done, so we're going to see everyone up there. The shit I think actually, you know, it's nice. I was talking with a few left-handed hitters because those are the guys who really got robbed by the shift. You know, the third baseman would move Pat. Pat McAfee. We're playing baseball, man.

Son of a bitch. Unbelievable. Oh! That's right up the front. Oh, it's in the gap. It's in the gap. Part two. Sorry about that.

We have more room for baseball activities. Sorry. I mean, how are we not supposed to do it? I mean, the reality is, Gumpy, this is like right up your alley. You like singles, right? Let's play the five down. Let's play the five down. Put the ball in play.

Move the boys around, Jet. I wasn't talking about singles like that. But anyway. Oh, crap singles. I wasn't talking about singles like that. But anyway. Oh! Oh! Crap singles!

There are absolutely going to be more singles. Balls that land in right field. Balls hit up the middle. Honestly, guys, what this is, it's a return to 1970s and 1980s baseball. And I think Major League Baseball has been... Pat? Sorry about it. I didn't even want to point it.

No, you're not. Let's go! Crack of the bat. Bruce, good pitch, pal. Yeah, great wood. Sorry about it. I just want you to get the bat in your hand. I want you to feel that pine.

You know what I mean? I want you to start feeling the lumber. You know, baseball's a good sport. If we get more of that, it's good news. And that's exactly what Major League Baseball is hoping for. And I think the good thing here is that players actually seem committed to this. Like Aaron Judge, the American League MVP, said, I think the pitch clock is going to be good for baseball. You talk with managers, and they're like, I hope the umpires enforce it

like they did in that Braves-Red Sox game where you saw the, we can call it a clock off because the game ended because of the clock violation. Like, that's a good thing because guys understand now. They've tried to put pace of play rules in place in the past, and hitters just ignored them, and umpires didn't enforce it. This is going to not be ignored and going to be extremely enforced. It's going to be a net positive I think in the end. Gumpy, we appreciate you. We've got great news. You know about it.

See you soon, Gumpy. Ty has a question for you, Jet. I think it was Max Scherzer who said either this morning or yesterday that he likes the pitch clock because guys like him can really dictate the game. Do you think that for these power pitchers, these actual aces, it gives them even more of a benefit than it had previously?

And also, mid-season, around the All-Star break, do you think we're actually going to be seeing games that are two and a half hours, or do you think it's going to kind of revert to the mean and we're still going to be getting games that are around three hours long? I was worried about that, Ty, but if you go and look at what happened in the minor leagues last year it was consistent across the board that the games were about two hours i think in 36 minutes um and that didn't change in fact after the i believe after the sixth week of the rules being in place, it was down to half a violation per game. So that's one every two games by all of the teams involved. I mean, there have been about two

violations per game so far, and that's normal. That's expected. Like, they're getting used to it. As for Max Scherzer, Max Scherzer loves mind games, and he loves strategy. And one of the beauties of baseball to me is that it's just an endless canvas of strategic elements. And while you're taking one away with the shift, you're bringing one in with how the pitchers dictate timing. And Max Scherzer was talking about how if a batter needs to be set at the eight-second mark, he's ready to throw the ball then. And when a guy looks up at him, he's going to start his delivery right then. But maybe on another pitch, he waits, he pauses, he takes those extra seven seconds. And while he wasn't a fan of the clock and its implementation to begin with, I think

he understands that, hey, I'm going to take advantage of it every way I can. Now, the interesting part with power pitchers, like guys, because they've taken more time in between pitches have conditioned themselves to throw a ball every 22 23 seconds you get those extra seven eight seconds of rest in between you're probably going to be able to you know go a little bit deeper into game so i'm very curious to see how players condition themselves to deal with having this much more rapid pace and if if it means, hey, maybe I take a little bit of mustard off my fastball here in order to go deeper into games.

If that happens, the pitches might not be of the same quality. More balls might be in play. More action might happen. Pitchers might go deeper into games. I mean, all of this leads to a better brand of baseball. And I think that's what all fans are hoping for. Are you, you've been on board about this since the beginning when the idea was pitching everything, All of this leads to a better brand of baseball, and I think that's what all fans are hoping for. You've been on board about this since the beginning when the idea was pitch and everything, or did you have to see it first? No, no. I thought a pitch clock was honestly a terrible idea because baseball is the only game without a clock.

And then I watched a minor league game last year, and the first time I saw it, I was like, holy shit, this is awesome. Like, this is the way baseball is supposed to be played. I have a kid who plays baseball, and they don't stand around on the mound picking at their fingernails. They don't step out of the batter's box during an at-bat and fix their gloves. They go in there, they catch the ball, they wind up, and they throw it. The pace of youth games is great. To take that and to add it to the quality of the big league players,

it's the idealized version of baseball for me. What are we doing with the spider shit? Are we still... What's it called? Spider attack. Yeah, I mean, it's baseball. There's always going to be... No, there's always going to be cheating in baseball.

There's going to be increased enforcement by umpires allegedly which i know is an important word on the show this year yeah more than you know well you do know yeah yeah yeah uh they're they're supposed to be increased enforcement and and if you look at the spin rates on pitches since that early enforcement date they've gone back up which would lead you to believe that hey there's probably sticky stuff coming back into the game but they put it in is it as extreme as it was back then no are they keistering it how are they because they're getting checked what gloves getting checked getting checked hats getting checked ears are getting

checked so guys have just figured out where to put it is that what's that's what's happened they've kind of been able to one up it False bottom like George Young It can be on the inside of the pants It can be inside sort of the heel of the glove Guys put it in their hair I mean Connor if he were pitching

Would reach behind It slipped right out I couldn't use it then Oh poop ball A man who once Was the starting catcher Yeah, Keister. Yeah, absolutely, Keister. It slipped right out. I couldn't use it then. Oh, Poopaw. Sticky stuff. A man who once was the starting catcher for the number 20 team in the country. Holy shit. Tony Diggs has a question for you, Jet.

A team did get 10 runs in the first round of playoffs. It was a disaster. Wow. They were riding high, though, boy. I mean, these dudes ranked 20th in the country. Good year. You should have seen them walking through the hallways. Oh, look at the baseball team.

Best in the country. Boys, thank you, boys. There you go, boys. Put us on the map. Big playoffs. First round of playoffs. These boys are about to go to state. These boys are going to win state.

Came back into school the next day. How'd the game go, boys? It ended early. Somebody get hurt? You got 10 runs. What? We're 20th in the country. What the fuck happened, boys?

Baseball will humble you quickly. It will. It's a great sport. And that pitcher, he's pitching in a rapid rate, but the ball I don't think was coming out as fast that particular day. Pitcher is a good man. He is a great man. We love that man.

Not a good pitcher. He was throwing BP in the playoffs, I guess. Allegedly, that's what they say about him. A good man. Still a good man. Anyways, 20th in the playoffs, I guess. Allegedly, that's what they say about him. A good man, still a good man. Anyways, 20th in the country, starting catcher, 10 digs as quick. Jet, we know that no other refereeing crew more than umpires in the MLB love to make it about themselves. Have you seen any umps that are going to absolutely love ninth inning?

Like, I'm going to make this call. This guy didn't get into the batter's box quick enough, and then we're going to get some fireworks with managers, correct? No doubt about it. The important thing here to note, though, in order for this to succeed, umpires need to

play an integral role. They're the ones whose eyes have to be on the clock, though. Here's the thing. They're wearing buzzers where if the pitchfork goes off. Whoa, whoa. They never wore them. Remember, Jet? Oh, they did.

They did not. Jet said all the reporting in research, no buzzers were ever on the asters. Right, Jet? Correct. Okay. Buzzers on Altuve. Ty, you really want to believe that, don't you? No, you were the one who said that

Altuve had the exoskeleton. Allegedly. Yeah, you did. If I know it, that's defamation. I didn't say it. Jet said it. Sorry, Jet. No, I'm over that. Astros are just on the Yankees. Not this year, but they have in the years past.

Very good. But the Umps, a bigger role. Ty, are you feeling good about the Yankees this year? I, but they have in the years past. Very good. But the umps, a bigger role. Ty, are you feeling good about the Yankees this year? I feel great. I feel absolutely great. Thanks for asking. Why wouldn't you? The Mets, $200 million luxury tax in the same town.

Not worried about the Mets. Red Sox are balling right now. Oh, the Cubs spent a lot of money too. The Cubs have every single player that has ever really been on this show on their team right now. We love that team. We love the Cubs have every single player that has ever really been on this show on their team right now. We love that team. We love the Cubs. If they're lucky, they might finish third or maybe fourth in the NL Central.

Oh, come on. I don't even know what that means, but I know it's rude. Buccos got Kutch back, baby. Holy shit. I saw Machoia signed for 15 years, $400 million or something like that. That's good. That's a Jet Passing news break. Yeah, it was a lot of money something like that. That's good. That's a jet passing news break. Yeah, it was a lot of money.

Endeavors. What's wrong, Jet? Did we say something that you didn't like? Yeah, what's going on? What's going on? Do we offend Facebook? No, here's the problem. There are 10 people in there, and I don't want to trample over anybody. Jet, you're our guest.

Everyone's got good baseball tickets. Jet, you're our guest. Trample the Jets, Jet. Jet, you're the guy. Fucking take Trample the Jets, Jet. Yes, Jet, you're the guy. Fucking, you know, you're taking that thing off, Jet. Fucking target fire, Jet. You're on the runway, Jet. Fucking go.

Pat, do you care about Manny Machado signing a deal? No. It's a big deal. I saw you tweet it, though. I saw you tweet it, though, and I knew it was a big deal because the judge signed. What did the judge sign for? Yeah, what was it? 360. Yeah, 360. He got 360. Actually, though, and I knew it was a big deal because the judge signed? What did the judge sign for? Yeah, what was it? Three hundred and sixty? Three sixty.

Yeah, three sixty. He got three sixty. Actually, Pat, you know what? I can bring this back to a football audience, I think, in a way that is very compelling. Now we're playing baseball. Because the San Diego Padres have one of the smallest media markets in all of baseball. Unlike the NFL, where all the money is distributed evenly, local television revenue makes all the difference in the world in Major League Baseball.

And the Padres, you know, comparatively, don't have a lot of local television. Hey, didn't they go bankrupt, right? All the local? It was 50%, right? Yeah, it's going to be a disaster. But what the Padres have done, Peter Seidler bought the Padres in 2012 for $800 million. They're probably worth $2 billion and change these days. And the appreciation of franchise values in sports, I think, is an important story that's not talked about enough.

People who are already rich are getting way richer on the back of sport. And yet in baseball, the idea that year over year you have a payroll that either helps you break even or make a slight profit or even a big profit, that's normal there. So if you're losing money year over year, that is frowned upon by baseball owners. Well, what the San Diego Padres have done is taken a small portion of their franchise and sold it essentially to get cash that they're reinvesting into their teams. The idea of an owner going out and leveraging the assets that he has in order to build a winning ball club, in order to make his brand bigger, better, associated with winning. It's like a novel concept. More value. And the fact that you're seeing, oh, I mean, listen, you win more, you're going to be more valuable.

What? The most valuable franchise in the NBA is not the Los Angeles Lakers. It's not the New York Knicks. It's not the Boston Celtics. It's the Golden State Warriors. And why? Because they win, Pat. And because that is their brand now. And the San Diego Padres are trying to become the Golden State Warriors of baseball. Slam Diego. They changed the game a little bit. They're hitting dingers, right? They're an explosive brand of baseball. They were winning. I never understand how these owners are billionaires. Because unless you just came from a billionaire family and you got handed a billion dollars, which has happened. It's not great. Those people mostly suck.

But it's not their fault either that they were born in a billion-dollar family. These billionaires, seemingly good business people. But then when they get a business that could be worth more, they refuse to out and be like oh how can i make this thing exponentially worth more money oh invest in it and it's like this it always comes back to this is that guy selling the pirates or what when are we when's that happening you think when's that guy yeah there's a big clap from the back right there okay shout out he sold seven springs so seven springs, so fucking hey, let's go. Hey, he's on a selling spree. Let's get this guy out of here.

Here he is. You know what, though, Pat? It's interesting because I think more now than ever, I think there is pressure from fans on ownership because I think fans have noticed that the most causative element, or at least most correlated element to winning, is not how good your players are. It's not how good your general manager is.

It's not how good your scouts are. How good is your owner? How willing to invest in this team is your owner? How willing to invest in the fans is the owner. And if you're not willing to invest, what the hell are you doing? What are you doing? Winning a championship is not your top

priority. Your only priority as an owner in professional sports, then leave for someone else who wants to. Get out. I got baseball. You know what should happen? You, Mario, Billy Gardell, Mark Kubes, Mark Caboli,

the guy who made Permanente. Well, turns out the Permanente brothers. You got rich friends, Pat. Joe Manganiello. I don't. You guys all go in together. I don't. I mean, as long as Barb doesn't take all your money.

Well, his guy says he's going bankrupt. You heard that. He said if he bankrupts, he has learned his lesson't take all your money. Well, his guy says he's going bankrupt. You heard that. He said if he bankrupts, he has learned his lesson. If he ends up getting bankrupt, I mean, I'm 35. I got a family. My wife's pregnant. What the hell's going on? What's the deal?

Trying to bankrupt me? Well, we know that they actually should take it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now is not the time. Nope, nope. Trust me, I thought about it. Yeah, it's crossed. It's very convenient. My daughter was about to shit himself again. Nope, nope. I thought about it. Hey, Jet, yeah, it's crossed. It's very convenient.

Connor was about to shit himself again there. Yeah, actually. Yeah, all over himself. Jet, we appreciate you, buddy. I'm watching a baseball game right now. The Mets are up 2-zip. Are they going to be good? Like Cohen spending all this money, $200 million in luxury tax,

it's going to pay off? They're going to be really good. I don't know if that, listen, it's baseball, so you can get to October and one bad series can torpedo your whole season. But if the Mets aren't one of the two or three best teams in baseball this year, I'll be surprised.

I saw you tweet earlier, by the way, your Twitter's amazing, and you said because Devers and Machado just signed, there's really not many hitters in free agency next season. Is Otani going to get a Mahomes 10-year, $500 million deal because he can pitch and also hit, or what's that look like? Is he still doing that too?

Yeah, still doing that. I mean, he would have won back-to-back MVPs last year if Aaron Judge didn't have a historic season. And, Connor, the comp with Mahomes is spot on. If Shohei Ohtani goes out this year and puts up numbers like he has the last two seasons, the number is going to start

at $500 million and only go up from there. And when you've got the Dodgers in, and when you've got Steve Cohen in the New York Mets in, and the Seattle Mariners, and the San Diego Padres, and the Angels trying to keep around the Chicago Cubs. I mean, it's an absurd player and an absurd amount of money

that, frankly, he will have earned. Ty said there's no chance he goes to Seattle. You don't like Ken Griffey or Ichiro? Ichiro, I love Ichiro. He's not going to Seattle. He wants to win. Randy Johnson. The hot upstarts.

Jet, the Yankees will offer him a billion dollars. Red Sox. So will the Mets. You know it. Sorry. Steinbrenner's in the group. The Mets maybe, not the Yankees. They will.

The Red Sox will. They'll do whatever they have to. Ty, how does it feel to have the little sister of spending in New York baseball? Oh! Oh! Oh, shit! Oh, shit! Oh, shit. Jet, do not be naive, okay?

The fucking Mets choked last year in the playoffs. You know they did. If you're a Yankee fan, you don't give a fuck about that, okay? They didn't have Verlander. That's great. They got beaten in the wild card last year. So until they fucking can maybe make it past the first round, they can play the fucking trumpet against the you know, against the Marlins.

Well, Timmy was out there. All they want. Yeah, he was playing. Jerry Seinfeld was not out there. Ty, you got swept in the ALCS last year. So don't be so confident. No! No trumpets!

And what did we do? You know, you went out and you got the best, I mean, outside of Verlander, who the Mets did get, you got the best fucking starting pitcher on the market. And the best player. They did. Who's pretty good as well. I love it when he makes my point. Oh, he said you're arguing for him.

No, I didn't. Rodon, he's not any good. Huh? Huh? He's very good. Rodon? Andrew McCutcheon, he's not any good? Huh?

Pittsburgh Buccos? Huh? The guy the Red Sox got from overseas, he's no good? Well, the Red Sox stink. Sorry about that. They do. This guy likes pizza, though. Bingo.

He's a dog. All right. Let's get out of here, Jet. We appreciate you, man. You're the best. I'm happy Gumpy got a chance to get the question in. That was awesome. Thanks for making that happen.

Hey, he's – I'm not saying it. Nope. Nope. I think Hey You brought up a very good point Don't jinx it Alright I won't

Ladies and gentlemen You'll see him on ESPN He is the voice of baseball For a generation that needs it Ladies and gentlemen Jeff Bauer Thank you Love Jeff dude

Fucking love that guy Me and Ty were saying too Hey if Gumby doesn't come in With a well well well Then you know It's going to be a missed opportunity. And what did he do? Yeah. His face.

He got good beard going. He does. That thing's real long. I got a little beard growing right now. What's good? A little beard. A lot of grays. Hey, it's cool.

It's a cool thing to do. Nothing wrong with that. I've had him for a long time, but I keep it so short normally that I don't get to see it. Like day four on the trip, I was like, damn. That's a fucking white-ass beard you got, dude. It's old school. Who's that? People with no wisdom.

Bingo. Little baby back. People who haven't experienced life a little bit. Allegedly. Once again, don't sue us if you don't have a. What's that all about? We are getting sued. Jet really loved that.

He did. Seems like a lot of people close to the show come a lot. Really? They're having a real good time with this whole thing. Joe Montana. Joe Montana was the first to hear that. Yeah, don't love that, Peppa. The fact that you thought that he had a holster for football.

He's kind of like Thor with Thor's hammer. He just reaches his hand out and football comes in. Hey, the handshake? I would imagine very firm. Impeccable. Maybe one of the greatest handshakes I've ever had, honestly. Shout out to my hand showing up because in the moment, you know, I didn't know that Joe was an accomplished handshaker.

I should have known that. Should have known that. We're talking fucking web on web. Great connection. Are we talking LT? Should have known that. We're talking fucking web on web. Great connection. Sure. Hand. Are we talking LT? Did LaDainian have like a really strong, oh no, Adrian Peterson.

Adrian Peterson, yeah. AD, AP. Lawrence Taylor. There was letters. We don't know how Lawrence Taylor's was or LaDainian Thomas's is. But I do, Adrian Peterson, known to have super firm handshake. Joe's was like, oh fuck. It was a. Put it fuck. It was a solid.

I mean, it was, yeah, right there. I'll see you there. Hell yeah. Did he use secondhand for anything? What's that, pal? Secondhand atop or anything like that? No, no, no. He's an Italian from Pittsburgh.

He understands. We ain't doing the whole. So he didn't even hit you? Not one of these? No, we didn't kiss when Chiefs. Okay. I wasn't sure. But there wasn't any turnover either. Like, I these? No, we didn't kiss when Chiefs. Okay. I wasn't sure. But there wasn't any turnover either.

Like, I'm a bigger dog than you are. None of that. It was just a straight. It was a great. I mean, it was a. Respectful. What was he wearing? Clean.

Like a Hawaiian shirt? No, super casual. I think he had a. Like a robe from old school. I think he had a t-shirt on, shorts, and flip flops. I'm telling you, he was acting as if he was not Joe Montana a lot. And I was just looking like, holy shit!

Literally, that is Joe Montana. Just so casually walking. No way that is. Didn't you say you saw him walking out of his condo or his villa one day? He had a football, wanted some coconuts. I did not say that. I had a football, wanted some coconuts, fucking knocked right off the tree.

I did not say that. I'm excited to hear who said that to you, though. I believe it. I would like to think it's probably true. It makes sense. It happened. From what I was told by some of the workers, Kamish was out there, too, where I was. Really? Yeah.

A couple days before I got there, I guess. Could you imagine? Holy shit. Roger? Hey, he's an attorney. He was an attorney an attorney yeah he's a good one too i mean he's a good one maybe he could rep me donner his heart's torn it feels like on this one i don't know i don't know i don't know but again no we're not saying i don't know let's go to the 500 phone line let's go to lauren in ohio by the way is that still that's still going on right

ohio oh my goodness the news is actually covering it okay yes there was rain that uh made its way up to new england and people were uh taking uh videos on their phones and the rain was hitting cars and the the cars basically have like all this you know, very hazardous rain on their cars. Come on, man. Because it traveled up there. Okay, I'm happy to hear the news is covering it. I think it's going to take a while to clear that up. How do you?

I don't even know how. I did see a hilarious segment where I believe some commissioner or whoever was in some local guy's house, and they all had his glasses. And they were obviously from, if you're like Western PA, Eastern Ohio, you have the just most weird array of glasses that don't match. They're not a matching set or anything. You've collected them for a long time. And they were all in there.

It was like 10 people, and they were all drinking out of the faucet water. It was a pretty hilarious act. I think they're all dead now, but it was funny. Allegedly. Allegedly. We don't know. We don't know. And I had no idea where you were headed there

whenever I said you were all sitting in a guy's house. I saw that segment. It was awesome. Skit? Was it a skit? No, no, it was an actual real news segment. So Woody Harrelson. I saw Woody Harrelson. Yeah, he crushed. He is now my number one actor on the planet. He was up there pretty high before what he did.

Speaking of skits, there was a pretty hilarious skit from Saturday Night Live from Woody Harrelson that Zito said in with Hulk Hogan walking in. No, that was from Young Rock. You stopped that right now, dude. That was Young Rock. I thought. What?

Yeah, Emmy-nominated Young Rock. AJ loved it, right? Hell yeah. How could you not? I love it. What are you? You didn't love it? Everybody needs to relax, okay?

Everybody's getting a little bit too comfortable. No, no. You know I loved it. Much mana. Much mana. Manti Teo sent me one of these. A lot of mana. Hell yeah. I think there's a chance he's on the program.

Mark? Incredible. He's bringing up that. Come on, Nick. We left that in 2022. Yeah. At one time, yes. Mark Teo is what he went by. A long time ago. He's a different man now. He just wanted to he went by. A long time ago. He's a different man now.

Guy just wanted to fucking play football. Seriously. What's your problem? He was bull. Like, hey. Should have went to USC. That wouldn't have happened at USC. Agreed.

But just the whole. That was fucked up what happened to Manti Tao. It ruined his football career. How do you play football with the entire world doing what the entire world did to Manti Tao? I was not a part of it, obviously. We did not have a program at the time. do you play football with the entire world doing what the entire world did to my entire town i was not a part of it obviously we did not have a program at the time but if we did have a program at the time we would have been forced to cover it oh and i could not even fathom how we would have covered that entire thing that dude was bamboozled layers oh yeah like sophisticated

by a cousin sophisticatedly bamboozled, that guy. Had a newspaper with the date on it sent to him. Unbelievable. That is, you never really get that in these types of things. And this is before FaceTime was a thing. Right. You know, so it's not even a. Has there ever been a projected top five pick go in the second round?

You mean like not because of injury? Gino Smith. Yeah, not because of injury. Was Gino projected top five? Wait, are you talking about him going number one. How about Laramie Tunzel? 14, 15? He was projected, what, top five?

Yeah, number one. Yeah, I was thinking we should have drafted him very early. End of the season, my man Ty Taylor was the most decorated college linebacker. He was a dog on the field. I think there's a chance he comes on the program. That would be awesome. That would be very cool. He sent me a couple of these whenever I was out in Hawaii.

You sent Bonjamana back. I sent Hoos back, you know. Yeah, of course. Just let him know. Much more. Things are good here. Yeah, bloodline, bro. Shout out to Will Sasso.

Much more. Let's go to Lauren in Ohio on the 5 Energy phone line. 1-833-432-3663. Lauren in Ohio. How you Energy phone line. 1-833-432-3663. Lauren in Ohio. How you doing? Hey, Pat. Good afternoon to you, sir. Lauren, good afternoon to you as well. Where are you calling

from in Ohio? Cincinnati. Oh, Reds. What a year. It's going to be a big year for the Reds. I don't know if they're going to be able to keep up with what the Bengals have been able to do down there, but it's a great time to be in Cincinnati. Lauren, what do you want to talk about?

So I wanted to see when your live audience show is going to be happening. My boyfriend got me on your show, and we are looking forward to that. And I am so excited. I want to be in your studio, and we are planning on going, but I don't know when that's going to happen. Okay, Lauren, great question. We appreciate the hell out of you and your boyfriend down there in Cincinnati. That's a good question. When is that happening?

How do we even? So I've been watching shows, programs that have studio audience. I think we need to build something. Bleachers? Yeah, bleachers, but comfortable seats, though. Can't just be bleachers. I think it has to build something. Bleachers? Yeah, bleachers. But comfortable seats, though. Yeah. Can't just be bleachers. I think it has to be stadium seating.

Yeah, like all those, they all have like stadium-style seating. And also, I think it creates like a... We could hire the people who did the Phoenix Open. A good rapport. Yeah, we know them. They almost killed you and Coach McConaughey. Yeah. I do remember that.

Almost flipped the golf cart backwards. Wild. Never seen anything like it. You know, I've seen a golf cart backwards. Wild. Never seen anything like it. I've seen a golf cart go this way. Never seen one almost go this way. Straight back. It was awesome. We were climbing up like this.

The guy was a great guy who drove us out of there, but that golf cart was not equipped to be handling Zito and Chuck Pagano on the back while going up the... Up? Ingrate? Incline? No. Upgrade?

Grade. Gradient? Deep grade? Yeah, what's on this? I'm trying tograde? Grade. Gradient? Steep grade? Yeah, what's on this? I'm trying to read the sign on the truckers. The grade. Washington steep grade. Yeah.

I don't know. Whatever it was. That thing was, I guess. They probably didn't have a gravel runoff either. Like a whale coming. Yeah, no way. You ever seen somebody in that? No.

Impossible to get out. Total's the truck. Yeah. It's fucking, it's there. It's always. It's going to be tough to get it out. I've seen one. I've seen it in there. That thing wasn't coming out. It's fucking, it's there. It's always. It's going to be tough to get it out. I've seen one. I've seen it in there.

That thing wasn't coming out. It's deep. Deep in there. That driver had to be so fucking scared. Oh, my God. Fuck. Holy shit. West Virginia, Pittsburgh, a lot of hills, obviously.

So there's a lot of runoffs, you know, you can get in there. I've seen one. Traffic was stopped, obviously. It was deep in there. I'm like, how are they getting that out? I think they had to dig it out like it was a full better than dying though yeah when you hit that though it has to be pretty oh yeah you know what i mean shout out to the truckers hey truckers keep trucking shout out to you guys thank you what if we hang tim mcafee was a trucker i got a lot of respect for those

floating gears out there what if we hang seats Tim McAfee was a trucker. I got a lot of respect for those floating gears out there. What if we hang seats from the ceiling and they drop down and then people... Oh, like the wrestling ring. Oh, yeah. Criss Angel. That was a great idea. Or like the swings at Kennywood. That was a great idea.

A couple of bullies. Let's go to James over there in Portland. Shout out to James. James, what's going on, pal? Oh, shit. What's up, James? What's up, James? How are you, pal? Jimmy. Sorry, I just got done doing a dab. Sorry about that, guys. What's up, dude? What's up, James? How are you, pal?

Sorry, I just got done doing a dab. Sorry about that, guys. It's Portland. Shout out. Dude, I want to shout out to Dane Lillard, dude. That motherfucker scored 71 motherfucking points, and I just want to give him a shout out. Hell yeah, James.

I'm sure he heard it. Shout out. That was incredible. Yeah, it really was. So his last, like, 10 games, I think, there was a tweet that I've seen. Obviously, the 71-6 and whatever he had last night, he's had, like, over 40. Oh, yeah. Like, maybe the last 10 games. I forget what the tweet was.

He's in the middle of that whole – he's doing a media run, too, saying, like, hey, they better hope I don't win a fucking championship here in portland what i'm doing then the freestyle on the plane happens then he drops 70 is this dude like greatest basketball player on earth right now is that what's going on here there's definitely a case you can you know can be made for him winning the mvp and i think he's like he's one of the most respected players because he hasn't left portland and he's trying to win there and he's not joining a super team. When you look at the odds for players to score 40 points, usually they are – Joel Embiid is probably the closest,

and he was like plus 300 yesterday or on Saturday night to score 40 points. Damian Lillard was plus 130 to score 40 points. For those that don't know? That means if you bet $100, you win $140. So it's an underdog. So for him to score 40 points, you're only getting like $40 juice on this thing. Which is absurd because you would think

that would be up plus $500, plus $600. At least. Like last night, for instance, Jokic had 40 points. There weren't even odds for him to score 40 because it's just so many goddamn points for one guy to score. Yeah, Jokic had a triple-double last night. Nobody even knows about it because Dame dropped fucking 71. That Jokic character,

I got to see a couple of his games out there in Hawaii because of the timing and everything like that. He's awesome. Nobody knows he exists. He wins back-to-back MVPs. I don't think he gets talked about much on there when they do a lot of NBA talk. He's fun to watch that big song, bitch. He's sweet, too, because in the offseason, he'll go and he'll just ride his horse in his carriage and do that big song bitch. Yeah, he's sweet too because in the offseason he'll go

and he'll just ride his horse in his carriage and, you know, do that song and dance. And we know he's a dog because his brothers probably beat the hell out of him when he was growing up because they were dogs. I'm going to take my hometown road. I'm going to ride until I can't no more. Remember, Billy Ray Cyrus said that when he was growing up, there was that old town road down there that he used to go down to.

That's why he felt so connected to that song. Not just that he was asked to be on a remix of the biggest song, but it was because he had such a connection to it. And whenever he got on that song, magic. Overnight. Lil Nas X, to the moon. How you doing? Now he's what?

Now he's, is he still making songs? Lil Nas? I think so. To be honest, I was going to ask you guys. He was getting sued for a little bit for Nike, I thought. He dressed up like a devil and got a blowjob, I remember that. Oh, yeah. Oh, he has a new Jack Harlow song that did really well.

Jack Harlow? With the cymbals? It was in jail, I know that. See, Jack Harlow's in a new He Got Game movie. Really? Yeah. He's a player. Guy's a player.

White man, man, man. Speaking of Woody. Yeah, he is. He's Woody Harrelson? Yeah. He's a player. Guy's a player. White man games up. Speaking of Woody. Yeah, he is. He's Woody Harrelson? Yeah. Yeah, good luck doing that, pal. Yeah, he better come out and make some statements like Woody did. You're such a fucking idiot.

Happy to hear you haven't lost your fastball even after you shit your pants. Let's go to Dustin in Pittsburgh. Dustin, what's going on, pal? Hi, boys. how we doing? Keep it moving. Thank you. Hey, first time, long time. Love you, boys.

Appreciate everything you're doing, man. Really proud of you guys. Would love to talk NFL football with you guys, but I had to comment because as soon as the show started, I saw Boston Connor and that bright white hat he had on, and I thought he was fully embracing the conspiracy theorist and had a nice old tinfoil hat on his head. I was going to say, you know, I thought he was going all in.

I thought he was wearing a tinfoil hat. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Thought he was a mark, huh, Dustin? You got one of those? You got one of those tinfoil caps on or what? Oh, you know, I know. Goddamn Mark, you know that.

Called you a Mark, didn't he? Yeah, he did. Was he referring to what? Tinfoil. Tinfoil hat for like aliens or? No, he's saying you're a fucking wacko. That's the thing that is said about people who are in the space. They can't read your brainwaves, dude.

I'm the fucking wacko. And then all of a sudden everyone sees one video of a bird just frozen in the air. Oh, Connor, maybe he isn't such a big, fat, stupid mark. Oh, is that right? Yeah. Wake up, people. The CIA was doing this shit in the 70s. All right.

Christ. You saw a report on the internet, didn't you? It wasn't a report. We all saw the same video. We did see a report, however. hearing it didn't you it wasn't a report we all saw the same video we did see a report however i think what you're referencing is uh there is a company currently making uh drones out of dead birds that have been stuffed and they're you know turning them into surveillance drones see we can't what are we supposed to do on this program and that's real hey i'm not making this up i'm just

saying like what are we in in light of the lawsuit, this was wild. Come on. I mean, riddle me that, you know? Riddle you what, huh? Riddle me that, and then we can talk. What's that? It ain't a dementor. I don't know what that is, to be honest with you.

Why is that thing floating through the sky? There's numerous people, too. See, it's not like it's out of the video. No, no, no. Yeah. I'll tell you what. I mean, I guess on a string, you could tie it over to the light pole over there. I mean, there's ways that you could.

Definitely game this. Yeah, for sure. And this is a hot controversy right now because this guy won't stop talking about it. Oh, that's in Surrey, British Columbia. That's around where Gump's from. There's some tough lads out in Surrey. Yeah, are they tying up birds and just flaking them like they're floating? That sounds like something Gump and his lads

might be doing. It does kind of look like a little drone there with a little costume on. Come on, guys. Now, if it was sitting there flapping its wings, then maybe. I mean, this thing's fucking frozen still. Yeah. What are we fucking talking about? It looks like a drone with a costume on it.

It does. If that was tied to a string, it would at least be, you know, either moving along back and forth. Look at the trees in the background. There's no wind. Yeah, it's a pretty calm day up there. It won't take that much wind. There's got to be a follow-up.

Like, did somebody fucking throw a basketball at it or something? Yeah. That's why we know it was in Canada. They're too nice. Exactly. That thing hovers over a Pittsburgh street. Just fucking let him be,

will ya? Just disappeared. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. Let's go to the phones. Let's go to Gabriel in Florida.

Gabriel, what's going on, pal? Hey, what's going on, Pat? Hey, first of all,

I just want to say congrats on the baby to you and your wife. Congrats on the vacation. Well deserved. Happy you guys are back. This past week was kind of boring without you guys.

And that's it. Connor. What? I just said I love you, Gabriel. I mean, what? Thank you. But I was going to say something. What do you think about how people are still debating whether Patrick Mahomes is either a greatest quarterback

or if he retires right now, he can go first, you know, Hall of Fame. A lot of people are still debating that. For me, he's the greatest quarterback in the league right now. Of course. What do you think? Who's debating what, you think? Because I've seen him in, like, every top five all-time quarterback. You're saying that if he wouldn't have won that Super Bowl,

he wouldn't have been given the same amount of respect that he deserves? Or do you think, because since he won this Super Bowl, I feel like he's been in, over the last couple weeks at least, in every conversation of greatest of all time. Yeah, but for me, it's like exactly like you say, if he didn't win the Super Bowl, people are going to say, well, you know, Jalen Harris, this, this, and that. Patrick Mahomes, you know, everybody knew what happened when he went to the,

you know, the house. We know what he got on the ball. You know, he got some shot in there. We all know. You know, it was magical. Gabriel, what part of Florida are you in? I'm in Polaro, though. Polaro, Puebla.

Lottie, Lottie, Lottie, Lottie. What a place. What an incredible place. Also, Pat, right before I get out, I just want Polaroid. Polaroid. Lottie Donnie. Lottie Donner. What a place. What an incredible place. Also, Pat, right before I get out, I just want to say something, you know. Allegedly. Fuck Brett Favre. Hey, Gabe. Hey.

Oh. I don't want to. English is your second language, Gabriel? Yeah, it might be. It might be. What's your first language? Spanish. I'm from Puerto Rico. What's your first language? Spanish. I'm from Puerto Rico.

Hey, muchos gracias, mi amigo. We appreciate you, Gabriel. I didn't want to say that with, like, in the assumption. No, I'm the bad guy. Yeah, exactly. You know what I mean? Gabriel's being a good guy there. Except for towards the end.

What he said does not reflect the opinions of, well, maybe some of us. Nope. But we didn't say it. Gabriel said it. He did. That's right. Let's get to a break. Hour three should be great. This is offseason.

That is real too. People are strictly talking about Mahomes. Is he the greatest quarterback ever? Of all time. 27 years old. He's unbelievable. Oh yeah. Very well might be in 10 years. He might be in like 3-4 years. Yeah, true. We don't know, dude.

Two rings already. Yeah. Ended with how good the AFC is. We didn't think it was possible to catch Tom ever. Like, if you're going to go on a Tom run, you're going to need so many things to go right. You're going to have to do blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. That's us actually speaking into microphones.

Yeah. This is unfair to Patrick Mahomes for people to already be making these comparisons. This guy's only in his fifth year in the league or whatever. Now he's got two. Already got a couple MVPs. That team, we talked to Veach, seventh youngest team in the NFL. They're still making moves, doing their thing.

It's like, that he might, hey, he might catch this fucking guy. Brady played, what, 23 years? Mahomes has got another fucking 20 years, potentially. 16 years. He'll shatter those records, too. Not the Super Bowls, but passing yards-wise, touchdowns-wise. Think about how much the game is now. And extra game.

Yes, and 17 games. Every single year. The AFC, though, to your point. Yes, in 17 games. Every single year. The AFC, though, to your point, Burrow, Josh Allen, Lamar, Kenny Pickett. What? I saw a town over there. I was caught with Herbert.

Herbert? What, Ty? We got Tom Telesco in studio. Right. We can talk about all these guys, but we always say how when new quarterbacks are going to the divisions, they envision, like, no, this is my division now. Like, I feel like that with Mahomes. Like, we can name all these guys.

Like, until one of these teams beats them and goes to the Super Bowl, like outside of the Bengals last year, like, it's fucking Mahomes world until someone proves it. Well, out of the darkness, maybe the dark hole over there. He's only going to get better with Nagy, too. Yeah, plus he's tied for the amount of Super Bowls he's won with Josh Allen. I've seen the enemy. Yeah, he's good.

What'd you do? The enemy. No, you said Josh Allen. Why'd you take a shot at Josh Allen? Josh Allen's a dog. I'm not taking – no, this isn't a shot at Josh Allen. This is a shot at the people who talk about the Buffalo Bills and their fans. As Jordan Poirier, by the way, said, take me to a state with no taxes.

Lives in Florida in the offseason. Sounds like he's saying, hey, Dolphins. Was that Tua's birthday? Oh. Loves Tua. Tua showed up? I think so. Oh.

He didn't show up when we were supposed to have him. We were going to have a birthday party for him. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Didn't show up. What's that all about? Why did he cancel? I don't want to share.

Why do I cancel on us? Florio said it was because of his new agency or whatever. His new agency, Mulageta. I thought he was all tuckered out. Right, who had C.J. Stroud on there, bro. Big fan. Oh, yeah, who came up and actually, you had him on the show. Mulageta was on the show.

He was. He was on the program. So why'd they cancel us? What did we do? I have no idea. He was tuckered out from the Kay Adams party, which you can respect because they were shooting beer pong shots. He did have a great performance.

He did. Radio Row was a border, really. It was. That one flew. Pickleball? That's why. All we were thinking about was Pickleball and Radio Row. That's really.

Just so everybody knows, we have to be the only NFL-associated group that refuses to go to any of the events. Everybody goes to the Super Bowl to go to the events. We say, please, do not expect us to come to your events. We've got a couple of houses. If you would like to come by, sure. Stop by. We are not coming to your event.

I don't know if we're doing it right, boys. Yeah, I had some fucking Mark tweet me saying that we weren't doing it right. Oh, you guys are real fucking fun staying at your house playing pickleball when you could be going to these sweet Super Bowl parties. I will say Super Bowl parties are my worst nightmare, but they are for some people. Some people absolutely love the glad-handing, hey, how you doing photo. Exactly.

Well, that's what those are, is they're networking events, and none of us are looking to – We got our network. We got our network, and it's on the fucking pickleball court at 4 p.m. until 11 p.m. every single night. Hell, yeah. We are the only humans that did that at the whole thing. For sure.

I got a lot of texts from people, hey, you stopping by, blah, blah, blah. I was like, wasn't invited, and also, no chance. No way. Oh, yeah, just, hey, you said you could definitely come through or whatever you want, bring you guys or whatever. It's like, we just, I gotta get back on that court. Yeah, sorry. You get it. Was there a pickleball court

there? And are people playing? It was fun. It was a nice celebration of the year. It was. Radio Row, I don't know what's going on with that. Are we going back next year? Well, it should be. Next year is going to be wild. At Vegas. Yeah, kind of have to.

They got a big old convention center there. Yeah, they do. Carrot Top's probably going to have his own stage. I follow him now. What a nice addition to the timeline. Yeah, it totally is. Have you followed him? I have not, but he's kind of in one of those situations where I'll check on him once a week.

So it's always a very good time when you're just like, you know, I'm going to go see what Carrot Top's doing. Carrot Top's in my Instagram timeline now. And I stop and watch everything he does. So my algorithm knows that I stop on every Carrot Top video. So he's normally like two or three. It's awesome, bro. He's 57 years old, bro.

He just turned 58. I'm sorry. He's 58, bro. Crushing. Plus. He's 57 years old, bro. He just turned 58. I'm sorry. He's 58 years old. Absolutely strapped and yoked. I saw him do his last workout as a 57-year-old. Fucking got after it. Thank God, too, because he got hit by a car. Well, I got to be honest.

For the first time ever, being hit by a car was not as bad as I thought. Then again, it was an EV. Fuck. I didn't hear it coming. Happened so fast. It would have probably been cooler being hit by a more macho car, but maybe it wasn't Evie. Fuck. I didn't hear it coming. Happened so fast. It would have probably been cooler being hit by a more macho car, but maybe it was just my luck. See?

He's going to turn it into a whole big. There you go. He's going to have a full bubble. You're going to show up at his show tonight. He's going to be bubble boy because he's scared of cars hitting him on the stage. Carrot Top has a show every night. He's 58 years old, and he never runs out of ideas. This guy's brain needs to be studied whenever he passes away.

It's nonstop. Between him and Bret Michaels, the timeline has been blessed. That's what I'm saying. Bret Michaels on my Twitter timeline. Carrot Top's on my Instagram timeline. Carrot Top, we're happy to hear you're okay after getting hit by a car. Baby CT. That's why you stay in such great shape, Carrot Top.

You're the best. We're also proud of the man that we're about to bring on to this stage because he was able to fly into Indianapolis in the middle of a tornado watch. Can't wait to hear about that and also all the things happening around the NFL. Ladies and gentlemen, senior insider for the NFL, the network, the website, and the streaming service, NFL Plus. Host of the Insiders on Fast Networks, which is basically anywhere you can find podcasts. Friend of the program.

Host of the weekly wrap-up of the Rap Sheet and Friends. Us being friends, he being Rap Sheet. Fresh off a ski vacation. Not cocaine, actual skiing. Ian Rappaport. Hey, Ian! Hey, Ian! Hey, Ian!

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I heard it! I heard it! I heard it! I heard it! I heard it! I heard it! awkward. No, no, no. You did great. You nailed it. You're an absolute star. You're a stallion. How was the flight in? Tornado Watch was actually taking place. Happy you made it. Thankful you're here. Flight had to be awful.

It was really bad. Yeah. I mean, I survived which is great. Hey, here we go. Not because of anything you did. I got to give a lot of credit to the pilots. You tried your best. I was trying to watch the new F1 series on Netflix. Hard to concentrate.

Going up and down with turbulence. It's interesting when you fly in to Indy because you never quite know who's going to be on your plane because some luminaries are also coming in. Yeah, combine, combine. I had an unnamed Giants executive sitting one

row behind me. Joe Shane? Freddie Kitchens? Not Joe Shane. Kitchens, I believe, is South Carolina now. But if you go down, you never know who's going to get the headlines. I'm very glad that did. Okay. So as that thing's moving, Ian's like, man, my name's going to get buried in the lead. We're not even going to talk about anything right there.

This flight, I was in good position. There was one year, it was me, McAdoo, and Bowles, and I'm like, if this goes down, I'm getting third. Yeah, at least. Yeah, that's like and others. And other NFL. I want to let you know, we would have talked about it, and we would have been bummed.

Crushed. Just like the entire NFL. Now let's talk about the Giants executive. Danny Dimes actually asking for $45 million, or is this all just a leverage play by the Giants for the fans to be like, oh, Dan Dimes doesn't deserve it. Get him the hell out of here because they all want him to come back you think it's a leverage play for public uh recognition here so I wouldn't be surprised if it came in and the number started with a four but I don't love this from the Giants from the Giants yeah I mean

I don't I would be surprised at this point well I mean, it's like the market for quarterbacks is either like 40 and above or other. Like, really, right? Like, it's the good ones who are franchise quarterback or it's like the. Did you talk to the executive on the plane? I did. Okay, so this is. You have actual information. I do have information, but this is not from the person.

That was on your plane. Because I'm not going to have sensitive conversations with people while others are around, you know. Oh, yeah, true.. The microphone works with you speaking into it, not sitting on top of it. Hold on. You're a host of a show. He just turned the mic. He hosted this show one time.

Now this is much better. I don't love the storyline of players asking for X. It always kind of comes... it's not a you thing. I'm just saying in negotiations, everyone asks for more, the team offers less, and then you settle in the middle. So him asking for 45, like, I don't know for sure that that was, you know, that demand or that request was made in negotiations,

but if it was, that would be fine. But I would expect the number to come in less than that regardless. I feel like we ask you this every offseason, and you're obviously a great friend of the show, and we appreciate you for this year. Had a hell of a year. Great year, Ryan. Had a hell of a year for us. Hosted.

Yeah, you did. Hosted on the show. I thought it was going to be terrible. It wasn't, right? No, it was actually good. Yeah, it was actually good. I saw the clips. You interviewed somebody.

I forgot who it was. Ross Dellinger. Ross Dellinger, yep. Yeah, I remember you booked that yeah his wife's on your phone is sex that's right alright we don't have

to go through that whole thing Ross has been through enough but the he certainly has boom you're a terrible guy

you're a bad guy too I'm just reiterating what happened you're right we're taking a trip down memory lane we ask you this every off season

I think and now we know each other even better. So we can ask this with a little bit more, you know. Do you ever get worried about being used by somebody for a leverage play? For instance, this is – it all started – we asked Dan Orlovsky about this because we're in that time of year right now, especially at the combine, where a lot of agents are talking.

Do you ever get worried that you're used for information to get a public image or narrative out there to get cooked? And how do you deal with that? Honestly. All the time. All the time. Because when I come upon information, sometimes it's sort of by accident. And sometimes it's someone who's not connected saying, hey, I heard this. You may want to check on this. You're my guy. I want you to have this. And I say, okay, I have this real information. I go to the people involved and they say, I know this. And then it ends up as a story that happens sometimes. The other thing that happens is I'm digging on something and someone goes, hey, you're interested in Daniel Jones, whatever it is. Lamar Jackson, we offered him $133 million. Right. And so if I'm going to say the Ravens offered Lamar Jackson $130 million guaranteed, while that is true, it's incomplete.

And so I wouldn't say that because it's not actually an answer and it's not really meaningful, but it is me being used to put something out there to get everyone to go, why isn't Lamar taking it? Bingo. So yes, this time of year is tough. So I always say, rarely do I stumble on something by accident. So I am a public person. People know that when they tell me something, there is a possibility that it's going to be public if everyone involved is on the same page with it, right? Or if they all say, yeah, that's true. Well, they're going to tell me something as if they want it public. So part of my job is to be like, all right, here's what they tell me why the truth is here

why yeah why did i get this information and what does it all mean right and so like that's half of what i do this time of year and and sometimes people tell you something they go why didn't you put this out and i'll be like well i need the rest of it and they say okay and then you'll see it somewhere else that happens too yeah trent remember trent delver came on he was like oh yeah people are going to use you yeah exactly he was like, oh yeah, people are going to use you. He actually said that to us. People are going to be funneling information to you guys to build their narratives all the time. And we aren't

insiders. We're just a pretty big show at this point. We get sued and stuff like that. Ever happen to you? You ever get sued? No. I did feel like you're the type of guy that should get sued. No offense. But did feel like you're the type of guy that should get sued. No offense. Oh, no.

But you're like insider, breaking news. I feel like you're sitting on deck. Getting people drunk. Being sued all the time on purpose. Usually the truth sets you free. Well, they get themselves drunk. But usually the truth sets you free. So I have not been sued.

I will say this, since you are a pretty big show i was at a uh a children's museum in utah on the between going to my foot for dean skiing going to my flight and someone came up to me you know what they said what's that we see you on youtube oh the fans in utah let's go oh utah hey shout out johnny utah affiliated with the jazz okay let's talk about the um let's talk about the 133 million dollars for Lamar. Okay. You say you can't just report that by itself. I assume what you're meaning is you have to put it into context.

Deshaun Watson got $230 million guaranteed. He has not accomplished anywhere near what Lamar Jackson has accomplished. He's in the same division as Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson is due whatever money he is asking for. He has been offered $133 million by the Baltimore Ravens. That would put the whole story into proper perspective. And it's also... Shit!

That's last year's price, by the way. But it's also... That's last year's offer, $133 million. That's last year's offer. But it's also, that's the full guarantee. It's also, what's the injury guarantee? How many years? If it's $133 million fully guaranteed or in a six-year deal,

how much is that really giving him? That gives the team a lot of control. It was a six-year $133 million? I'm just saying, what I'm talking about is the things that are— Jesus Christ, what a bad— Get that deal done! I actually think it was, if I remember correctly, I think it was five plus the one that was already on it. So six total.

Six total, five-year extension. But what I'm saying is like the injury guarantee matters, the overall matters, how much incentive. So you can't get a full picture of the contract that you offer without knowing everything else. So I wouldn't want to report a small part of it without knowing

like, because what fans say is he should just take the money. That's the Ravens saying, we offered this is what we try to get this guy to sign. You don't think $133 million is a lot of money? And you look at every fan of the NFL going, $133 million to play football? Jesus, take the deal.

Take the deal. This guy's, you know what I mean? That's kind of how the whole angle gets built. You think they get a deal done, or do you think he gets franchise tagged? And how much will you learn this week about that? I will learn some. The annoying thing about the timing of the combine, and it's the same every year,

is that I come here being like, all right, I'm going to learn a lot about free agency. I'm going to figure out who's going where. And what you end up finding out is a couple things, a lot about the prospects, a couple things about free agent deals that are happening, but not a lot of conclusions because free agency is two weeks. So it's not like

now that the tag window is Tuesday, I believe, right? So Tuesday after the comment, it's a week from tomorrow. So we will learn some things probably. Yeah, I know you guys. First full week of March. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. New league year. Yeah. That's right. It's in my calendar, actually.

You should be working for the fucking league. I hope so. Every year I put all the dates in the calendar to make sure I know what's going on. That's very smart. I was going to say, it's always a big... We'll find out a lot of times who's getting tagged, but maybe not even until Monday or Tuesday. I'll have a lot of conversations. I'll have some drinks. What?

What? A couple drinks. What? A slew of drinks. I'll have some drinks. A couple drinks. Slew of drinks. Sun King is actually a great brewery. Yeah, they are. Here in Indianapolis. They have a light one that's really good.

Nowhere near as good as Bud Light. Cream Ale. I actually saw your Bud Light as I walked in. Jesus, I want one so bad. Get ready for the combine. How is the liver? Pretty good? I mean, I've been doing active activities for the last week.

That's smart. Skiing. Getting ready for the combine? Yeah. I feel physically awful because when you ski, you just feel terrible because you beat yourself up. That's why it's so fun. Really? I thought you just...

I mean, some people do. Go down the hill. But when you're pizza and french fry and grab chicken, your legs are going to hurt. Oh, you're talking about he's doing this number. Bingo. I was told there was a lot of powder. And the instructor who... We had an instructor with our boys the whole week.

He told me very clearly, if you have to pizza during some of this powder on a black or whatever, don't feel bad about it. And I was like, don't you worry, buddy. You're going down... What are they called? Double black whatever. Don't feel bad about it. And I was like, don't you worry, buddy. You're going down what are they called? Double black diamond. I did one double black diamond. It was awful. What do you mean? You fell? Had to get back to pick up your skis? Not only did

I fall, I fell numerous times. And I'm not equipped for that, but the guys I was with are very good, so I was kind of along. Is that the top of the double black diamond there? Is that just a cliff that's going off the other side there? That is a cliff, yes. And you're just going off there?

Yeah. Whoa. Crap, I didn't know you had that in you. I don't. It was terrible. But I feel like at the end, my friends really gained a true respect for the kind of elite athlete that I pretend to be on TV.

Hell yeah. Elite athlete. Not elite. Hell yeah. Elite athletes. Not elite. Ty has a question for you. What the fuck just happened there? You just said you did terribly, and then you said they have respect for you being an elite athlete. No, I tried very hard.

Were they good? They were good. You were the worst? I was the worst. Oh, terrible. I don't even ski. That sounds like a terrible thing to do. No, it was rough, but they were very encouraging, and they would help as I – yeah, some of my boys right there.

So Arrow can't get robot skis? He's not allowed? Arrow does not ski, is he? Of course he does. He lives in Minnesota. He doesn't ski. I don't understand that. But, yeah, those guys are all good, and then there's me.

But you wouldn't know looking from that picture. No, you look the part. This is like the guy who dresses the best at the golf course. Bingo. He's got a great fit right there. You can tell the yellow pants are the best, right? I don't know. Red pants. Is that Cara Fowler? Red pants is the dog. He's Austrian. He knows

what's going on. How about gray pants on the left there? He looks pretty comfortable on his skis. He's good at leaning. Where's he from? Italy? I'm sure his ancestors are from Italy. Why do you say that? No, he's in Austria. I figured this was a very well-rounded club.

What's he saying? I just guessed it. I mean, I was going to guess a couple of them. No, go ahead. I'm sure they would be happy to hear. You know what? It's too blurry. It's a little too pixelated.

Yeah. Actually, you know, right next to you, that could be Swedish German. And then I think yellow pants is probably Scottish yellow pants. Okay. That's where we're headed. Irish Scottish. And then just regular American dudes in the end. Okay.

Shout out to America for holding it together there. We're happy here. We're happy you're healthy. We're happy you're safe. We have some more questions for you. All right, Ty. Yeah, Rep Sheet. They're saying a lot of people this year aren't coming to the combine like a lot of coaches because the

stuff's on late at night and they can just watch it do you anticipate that there won't be as much stuff like there won't be as much scuttlebutt or will you hear just the same amount of like rumors and gossip this year even with a bunch of guys not being here no and it's the combine losing its luster i don't think it's losing its luster, but I think we are kind of part of the problem. It looks awesome on TV. I know you guys are. No, not we, but we as NFL Network.

Okay. We do a very good job of making the drills, which are not always awesome, look awesome on TV. Agreed. And the coverage is intense. So if you're a running back coach, you're like, why do I need to show up? I'm watching the TV in the suite that I'm in. They're in the suite of Lucas Oil Stadium, staying in a hotel in Indianapolis for a week,

and they end up watching the TV copy of what's going on on the field right there. Meeting the players, you only get 15 minutes. And the interviews are all recorded anyway. You can see why coaches wouldn't want to come. The other thing is, and this is like a... No, he's the best. Some of the best gifts are from Belichick and the Combine.

He's GM, though. No, he's all of it. So I think for... I think some teams view it as like, hey, here's an easy way to save money. Don't send my coaches. The other thing is, and this is something which I am not for, it's a great networking opportunity for coaches to get to know other coaches, head coaches, maybe some reporters, and not everybody wants that.

So you say, well, why would I expose my receivers coach to someone who might try to hire him next year? Stay home, do your job smart be more efficient yeah but it is annoying though like i wish everyone came so i could have most personnel people come though right uh every gm comes i'm like even the you know like pro scout like i don't think i'll come no sean payton coming i was thinking about this while i'm gonna come just because he's back in the game and like, hey, I want to be here? And I think he's doing an interview.

You know, most coaches do media access tomorrow and Wednesday. Payton, first time, you know, back as Broncos or back in the NFL. Like, he'll be here. He'll be scouting and all that stuff. So I heard. That should be good. I was told. Source?

Athletic. Russell Wilson wanted Pete Carroll and Schneider fired for Sean Payton to get hired? Is that just like a baby face for Russell Wilson's team to tell Sean Payton that they've always been a big fan and it backfired completely because everybody was like, Russell Wilson wanted Pete Carroll and Schneider fired? Or how did that whole story come about? Because Russell Wilson immediately said, this is not true. How does that happen, you think?

How does that whole story take place? He did issue a denial. Which we did just report, by the way. Just would like that everybody know. Yep. Always important to say, just in case someone else. Sues me, yeah. It's my life now.

Things happen. That happens. Hall of Famers. I cannot wait for... Discovery? I don't want to be involved in it, so I can't make any... No, go ahead. I assume you're going to be paying attention.

I will be certainly paying attention. Me too, man. I can't wait to see how it goes. I can't wait. I've got to hire a lawyer now, though. You know how I deal with that. I do. Yeah, there's so much shit.

A lot of legalese. There's so much shit I've got to do. Is that a joke? I don't like that that's the American system, by the way. I don't like that, oh, now you gotta hire, like, as soon as I came out and said, I ain't got a lawyer, I don't have an agent,

all anybody said was, gotta hire a lawyer, don't be an agent, hire a lawyer, hire a lawyer. I'm like, everybody's just brainwashed. As soon as this happens, gotta fire, it's just the way it is, I guess. I mean, I used to think that you needed an agent to do this, and look at you. What do I know? This is much different than defamation law.

No, I'm saying, like, this is a hard thing to do, and you're like, I'll just figure it out and be awesome. I have had a lot of help from a lot of people that have big brains, but in this particular case, I'm going to have to hire a lawyer, and I don't want to get you, drag you in. But if you have any news out of the Brett Favre camp, I would love for you to tell me about it so then I can maybe break that news and just continue to add on to this whole thing.

But let's talk about the athletic article where it said that Russell Wilson tried to get Pete Carroll and Schneider fired for Sean Payton, which sounds great right now because Sean Payton is obviously the head coach of Russell Wilson. Was this a Team 3 misquote that maybe they thought would go a different way, or what do you think happened here? So you're right. Russ did quickly deny

it and his team is adamant this did not happen. I cannot independently confirm that Russ tried to get Pete Carroll and John Schneider fired. That's a big accusation. It's a big accusation. However, it was clear it was not working at the end and he wanted something different. Now, did he want them to be fired?

I don't know. I wish I knew. It was something at various points that I tried to nail down and make sure, but I knew that it was not right, and he either't. They traded him. But it was clear by the time he was doing his man of the year kind of, you know, you go around and do all the interviews, right? Dan Patrick. Yeah, I think Dan Patrick was the first one. It was the day before. The night before Team 3 released their statement about the offensive line sucking and the offensive coordinator sucking and them not being.

And then I knew at that point Seattle was like, okay, this is, we might have to do something. But then Patrick asked Russell and he was like, I didn't say any of those things. And I was like, oh, using team three as the. Yeah, didn't deny them, but. Yeah, it was like an interesting, like really interesting. I mean, he cares about his reputation a lot.

What? So this might actually surprise you. So that was, it was clear something needed to change. He wanted something to change, but he needed to make sure that he didn't get the blowback that I think the article, for instance, caused. To answer the Sean Payton part,

that is always true. When he thought about being traded, going to New Orleans with Sean Payton was always something that he wanted. That is all real. I've heard about Russ's love for Sean Payton was always something that he wanted. So that is all real. And I've heard about Russ's sort of love for Sean Payton for a while. Now, it'll either work or it won't, but midway through his career, this is a guy that I know that he's thought like he could make me a great player. Okay, so does Russ still have an office?

Because remember, Sean Payton, teammates said all good with the office. Say dry erase, he was always in the building. He worked. You want to go up there and chat with him? He had his brain pretty much on the dry erase boards around. It was actually a pretty cool thing. Players had no problem with it seemingly. Other coaches might have had issues with it anonymously.

Shout out to them not speaking on the record with their names and just going anonymously about the whole thing. I wonder if they said it to Russell Wilson's face. Sean Payton was asked. I'm sure they didn't. Certainly, yes. You make a living off anonymous sources. You and I have a very different view upon that.

No, no, no, no. I do not like anonymous opinions drive me crazy. It is so, like being like anonymous sources. Oh, Bob McGinn. Bob McGinn. Bob McGinn. I definitely knew existed before. Classic Bob McGinn.

They are disgusting with Aaron. Do you know that? Do you talk to anybody? Just mine. I've been covering the game all the time. Anyways, go back to what you were saying. Anonymous of pains. I do not think they are disgusting.

Well, I'm happy Bob put his name on it, though. Yes. To go back to what we were just talking about. I mean, we said this before. I know this isn't what you asked, but if Rodgers said to the Packers, I would like to come back. Let's run it back for one more year. I think they'd be like,

sweet. You're backing up Jordan love. According to Bob McGinn. Yes. Once again, that was what, right. This one, we were in Hawaii.

I was reading him and I was befuddled as much as you go to the shrimp truck place. No, I was on that Island. Can you confirm he's out of the darkness? Uh, by the way, uh,

he went to the darkness on Monday. Now different Monday, but he did go to the darkness on Monday. Now, different Monday, but he did go to the darkness on Monday. Oh! Next Monday. Really? There was a word inadvertently deleted. No, that's not true. But it was also on Monday, so there you go.

One of seven days. Oh, so he went on Monday? He went on Monday, but the next Monday. That wasn't what he told us. End of the week. End of the week, this week. It turned out to be Monday to Wednesday. But that's

that's only three days. Yeah. So Sunday probably. No maybe maybe he went late check in. Maybe he accidentally bumped the light.

Or maybe he was like I'm good. Three days I mean how many days in the darkness is four better than three? Like what's the difference? Yeah.

Yeah. There's allegedly a full thing that your mind goes through in the DM. You don't ever understand. You ain't ain't nope you fucking corporates dudes would never get with the dmt why don't you listen to rogan one time dude come on grow your brain to be fair i don't listen to any podcast except for this one now you you watch clips i watch clips yeah a lot of people that's okay that's what everybody does yeah we're a clip show too like that's completely fine with us you watch on tiktok uh yes well do i follow you guys that was

i don't know let us tell you prick uh how would we know how the hell would we know all right anyways let's get back to it sean payton said i'm very foreign to the whole other people's staff in the building has that been something that's been figured out about the whole? Yeah, I don't think it'll happen. How about the office? The office? See, I didn't have a problem with the office. Oh, thank God you didn't.

Well, I mean, I just know how. That was so rude to me. No, that's fine. I'm so sorry. That's fine. Because the way I said it was kind of douchey anyway. But there's a lot of quarterbacks who have either offices or space. I mean, these guys are different.

We cannot pretend that these quarterbacks are like everyone else. For me, Peyton lived in the quarterback room. But that was his office, pretty much. Isn't that the same? I don't know. Because I think they were saying this one was on the second floor. Where the coaches were, not where the players are.

That's a little different. And executives are up there and stuff, too players are. That's a little different. And executives are up there and stuff, too. Right. That is a little different. But quarterbacks are like half executive, half player. Half coach as well. Right. Especially when you give them $200 million before they even take a snap.

Right. So these guys are different, and I think that's okay. I think more of an issue was the Jake Heaps situation where he's – What's that? That's his name, right? I don't know. I don't think – His personal quarterback coach where he's like having game plan meetings

outside the coaching staff with players during the game week. What? That was happening? I didn't know that. Yeah, no idea. I didn't know that. That was in the article too. So I must not have read that portion or remembered it.

It was a long article. It was long. So Heaps, the quarterback coach for Russell Wilson. Personal quarterback. Former radio host in Seattle. His personal quarterback coach. In Monaco. The guy who started with him in Monaco? When he had his pads. Do you remember that? With the kids?

Remember he had his pads in Monaco? I don't, but that's a very on-brand. Not in a bad way. No, no. Good way. He's always getting right. That guy was having meetings with players about the game plan was involved in meetings about the game but these are all the things that like geez it shouldn't those things should never happen no and hacking having a personal quarterback coach is fine a lot of quarterbacks do it you sometimes by weeks they'll they'll come you know the jordan palmers of the world or quincy avery, you know, will come in, tune a guy up in week seven during

a bye or whatever. Oh, he's good. Who? Quincy Avery's awesome. Oh, yeah, that guy. He is a high horse. Oh, he hates us. Quincy Avery hates us.

Oh, yeah. He's talking some shit on us. His quarterback didn't do anything allegedly. Allegedly. Fuck. Tone. We're already in enough. He said allegedly.

Quincy Avery talks some shit on us, I guess. Well, he only went to bat for his guy, so I guess I kind of respect it. But yes, you're right. But being involved in meetings, doing game plan is very, very different, and it should really never happen, and I would imagine Sean Payton will make... Sean Payton is not shy at all.

He gives... He does not care. How about that guy tweeting, like, Sean Payton hasn't made a single hire to his coaching staff and everybody else there. Hired 16, five to go. We'll inform you when we fucking want to. He's the man. How about that guy tweeting, like, Sean Payton hasn't made a single hire to his coaching staff and everybody else there. He's like, hired 16, five to go. We'll inform you when we fucking want to. Shut up, basically. I love that.

How about Sean going into media for a little bit, learning the game a little bit more, coming back in the game being like, I don't care about any of this shit. He can do whatever he wants. He's going to win, right? We all assume they're just going to win over there. I mean, he's a great coach.

Tough division. Tough, yeah. But he is as good as any of them, though. And that's the thing. Like, Sean Payton and I have not always been on the same page. He hates you. I didn't know that. I didn't know he hates you.

I would not say. What's your deal? No, I would not say hatred. But it heads a little bit on information I had that he wishes that I had not had in a variety of different formats and situations. But talk about accountability. He is one of the guys, if he has a problem, he will call up and be like, here's why I have a problem with everything you reported.

And we'll talk about it. And, like, so I've never – we've butted heads, but, like, always a lot of respect, and he is a great coach. I love Sean Payton. He came on our show, and I don't think he wanted to leave. His person was telling Zito to tell me he's got to leave, and I actually told him live like, think you got to go? He goes, says who?

I don't know. Literally somebody in my... Guess who's in charge here. It was awesome. Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Ravsheet team now on the Super Bowl two years ago, the Rams were kind of getting blown up here. Bobby Wagner released your cohort. Jalen Ramsey getting traded. Palisaro said Ramsey's

getting traded. Also, from people we've talked to, the spinal contusion is no joke. Obviously, Stafford has that even though he said he's not retiring or anything. Are they probably on the cusp of a rebuild with no draft picks and a coach that will probably

end up perhaps wind up on television calling games? How calling games or what do you think? How many spots are there left? True. There's one open now. Who? Plus Sean. Oh.

Oh, Fox. Yeah. I mean, Sean Payton and that one. He's not going to the desk. He's going to the desk. He might be. He'll be in the booth. No.

The booth was where he was offered, what, 20 allegedly from Amazon. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. Don't sue us, Amazon. Jesus. Everything we say now. Do we have an allegedly shirt?

We do. We do. Do you really? Yeah. From my public intoxication. Allegedly. Well, he's definitely publicly intoxicated. What they said I did.

Allegedly. Yeah, allegedly. Is that not true? What's that What they said I did, allegedly. Yeah, allegedly. Is that not true? What's that? Well, I don't know. I don't want to go down there. I was 100% intoxicated. Oh, I have no doubt about that. Publicly.

Told the cops that. How much have you had to drink tonight, sir? Well, obviously a lot. I'm still drunk. It's in the police report. And I was just trying to be honest with the guy. It was early. It was cold.

I was shirtless. I was wet. It was very chilly. Okay, so that part was true. I was shirtless. I was wet. It was very chilly. Okay, so that part was true. They pieced together that I won swimming or whatever. So that's why I always say allegedly. Did you not? Well, I mean, who knows?

We'll hear it out down there. A couple pranksters might have poured water. Yeah, we should maybe drop a... That's amazing. What a great... At least you weren't smiling. Sometimes people just smile during their mug shots. It just reflects it.

Someone recently... Well, I actually... I'm not even diving into it. Right before that photo was taken, I was in a pretty jovial mood because the lady that was taking the photo was very nice and pretty funny. She was like,

look up at the star because you're a superstar. I was like, oh, that's very nice. I was trying to be kind to her. And then it was a countdown three. And then're a superstar. I was like, oh, that's very nice. I was trying to be kind to her. And then it was a countdown three. And then in my head, I'm like, oh, can't be smiling. Don't smile. Can't be smiling. So then that pissed face came.

Yeah. Anyways, that shirt has been our top seller of all time. I don't know if there will be another shirt that will ever. No. Well, maybe. Maybe. We might be able to find it. I might buy one.

To answer your question about the Rams. It's not for sale anymore. Shit. Do you guys know anyone who can give me a copy? I'm sure the internet. There's like 45 Twitter accounts. Very difficult. This is where we find it.

Springtees.com. They're sellers. To answer your question about the Rams. They're definitely going through something, and I know they're cutting some costs. The Wagner situation, I think, probably made sense. If Jalen Ramsey gets traded, they'll be able to get some of those draft picks that they don't like. And I do think the Ramsey situation will be interesting because he got to Los Angeles from basically controlling his situation. Being in Jacksonville and being like,

basically controlling his situation. Being in Jacksonville and being like, I'm good. Get me out of here. I would imagine he will have a very strong say in where he goes if he gets a new deal, how that happens. Don't he love LA though? Isn't that his thing? He loves LA. Last week, he was looking for a house.

A sweet house. I think you said he was at Nobu in Malibu whenever he found out that he was maybe being traded or something like that. So is that something that he wants? Do you think he wants to be traded? I'm not sure that he wants to be traded. I know they've had talks, as my good buddy Palacero said.

I don't know. He had a cryptic tweet today too. What did he say? It was a video from the Allen Iverson press conference. Right before, I believe, the practice comment, it was more so about how I'm a person just like you. I bleed just like you do. I cry just like you do. Got it. So he's a human.

Yeah. Which is awesome to hear. Because the way he plays football, you think he's an alien. He's a big guy. Hits hard. Runs fast. So here's my thing. Talk shit. Yeah, I know. I appreciate that. Me too. McVay came back. Aaron Donald came back. Stafford has said he's not retiring, right?

So if they're going to blow it up, would all those guys have come back? If the management's view is like, all right, we're just going to basically tear down and start from scratch, do all those guys come back? Probably not. So then to me, it seems more like moving money around, putting it elsewhere, as opposed to rebuilding because they lose their three core guys if they say, alright, we're just tearing it down. Are they a little bit worried about the NFC West with

pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, shot, shot, shot, shot, shot, fucking explosion. Pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew. And Kyler's not going to start there? Isn't he out for a while? He's going to be, yeah, he'll be out for a little bit. But, I mean, it'll be.

Covered fast. I mean, and then the Brock Purdy situation is interesting, too. What's that? He delayed his surgery. Delayed his surgery, yeah. And I know they're saying he's still ready for the season, but, like. Getting close. It's going to be tight.

Hold on. So, when I got LASIK, because I wore my contacts every day for 15 straight years and didn't take them out, my eyes were so swollen. I had to wear glasses for like seven to eight weeks. Nick, do you remember my glasses stage? Yeah, they're pretty sweet. Were you like Elton John with like massive? Whoa. No.

That's what I meant. No, they were sophisticated. Why are you so offended? Incredible reading glasses. They were. I had sick glasses. Wait, do we have reading glasses? No, they were actual glasses.

They were sweet. I actually had, I mean, my hair was real long. We had a great off season with those glasses. They went. Had a great off season. Boy, a couple different pairs because of things that happened, too. Glasses were tough for me. Sure.

I never wore them. But I had to wear glasses for like six weeks to get my eyes from swollen because they were swollen from my contacts so that I could get LASIK. Is that what's happening with his elbow because of the extra usage in that game? Why was it still swollen? Is this normal? How do we move forward? I don't know that it's normal because normal is just you tear the UCL,

you have surgery, and you're good to go. I don't know why it's swollen, to answer your question. I know it should probably by this point be not swollen. So they are still saying, as Pelissero reported, that he's going to be ready for the season, but I know it's getting close. And it's something to watch because if it's not going to be ready, they have Trey Lance, I guess, or do they sign a veteran? Whoa.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. So you're saying Trey Lance wouldn't be the guy on that? No, I think Trey Lance, I guess. Or do they sign a veteran? Whoa! So you're saying Trey Lance wouldn't be the guy? No, I think Trey Lance would be the guy, but they've gone Jimmy Garoppolo and they've got Brock Purdy. Purdy played well. Garoppolo, obviously, played really well in the same offense where Trey Lance struggled.

I thought him and Shanahan didn't have a great relationship. I mean, they tried to replace him twice. So is Jimmy G going back to the Niners? I don't think he's going back to the Niners. Where's he going? I think that's over. Vegas. Vegas maybe. Carolina would be possible. Jets, I think, would be possible.

How about Derek Carr? They said he would be a Hall of Famer. Yeah. I don't think that's true. Diana Rossini! Whoa! We love Diana got us through legit source. Yeah, like three to four months almost. He wins the Super Bowl. He's basically Stafford.

Who, Jimmy G? No. Oh, sorry. I was thinking Derek Carr. Oh, I'm sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Yeah, yeah.

You're 100% right, though. Derek Carr, though. I mean, I don't know. I do not know for sure that they told him that. It seems like something maybe somebody wouldn't say because it's not true, probably. I see Hackett saying that to him. Yeah. Remember, he's open press conference.

I think Hackett's been through enough. Yeah. Because you got Russell Wilson. Dude, freaking Russell Wilson. Freaking Russell Wilson. How aren't we going to win? They knew Hackett lost his way, didn't they? He did.

Early. And such a good coordinator. Was he? I think so. Quarter, didn't he? He did. Early. Such a good coordinator. Was he? I think so. Quarterback coach? Coordinator? I mean. He's technically the OC.

But he drew up the red zone stuff, right? The gold zone. It was a big smashing success. I mean, he got the Jaguar. Helped the Jaguars to the AFC title game. Yeah, and they were their best. Okay, with the boat. Doug Marone, yeah.

And Blake. And that was right before Jalen said, give me the fuck out of here. Yep. Because they paid Blake. So they paid, yeah. And Blake. And that was right before Jalen said, give me the fuck out of here. Yep, yep. Because they paid Blake. So they pay Blake. Defense gets pissed. Calais Campbell gets sent to Baltimore. Jalen Ramsey's fighting coaches on the sideline.

Yannick Ngakwe also. Oh, yeah. That was tough. Jacksonville had it. Oh, yeah. They were so good. They had it there. No, but they were always teetered.

The personalities in that building. There was Lenny Villanelle. Yeah, Coughlin had, like, what? A always teetered. Their personality is in that building. Yeah, Coughlin had like what? A hundred different? Yeah. 25% of the complaints to the NFLPA from players about how the building is operating and the breaking of the rules that are in place came from the Jacksonville Jaguars building when Coughlin was there.

That happened, right? Yeah. Allegedly. Allegedly. I mean, I'm pretty sure that happened. Tony Diggs has a question for you, Rap, even though you didn't answer anything. When you're going around this week and you're talking to people and you're drinking with people and you're asking them questions or whatever, what's the number one question that you want to know this week?

What's the scuttlebutt this week? I mean, I'd say right now, you know, there'll be plenty decided with the prospects because they'll perform and do the thing. But as far as actual NFL stuff, Rodgers, Lamar, Derek Carr. I think those are... What are you hearing about Rodgers? What do you know? I have not heard anything since he's come out.

Is he coming on tomorrow? I don't know. Actually, I think there's a chance. We may have been excommunicated. Yeah, during the darkness. We might have lost favor during the darkness. I've sent a couple. Missives?

Was it awesome? That's literally was the first one I sent. How we doing? Nothing. Now, did you get green boxed or still coming blue? Still coming blue. Yeah, what are you talking about? You've been green boxed?

Holy shit, you're in a bad spot. Is that Sean Payton? Is that Sean Payton? Sean Payton's green regardless. Always green boxed. Android guy. Android guy. Satellite phone.

Oh, so he thinks he's being tracked. Yeah. I love that out of Sean Payton's green regardless. Always green box. Android guy. Android guy. Satellite phone. Oh, so he thinks he's being tracked. Yeah. I love that on Sean Payton. God, there's nothing worse, though. You text someone, haven't talked in a while, but like, hey, what's going on? And it's like green. You're like, damn it. Oh, they blocked you.

Or just didn't get the new number. Hey, man, new number. Lock this in. Yeah, but what are you going to text your entire phone book and say, hey, I got a new number? That is true. I've had the same number for 20 years. I have no idea how people do that.

Smart for you. Do people? Well, yeah. I don't know. I've never gotten a new number either. Yeah, I know. Sometimes people like- Do you just go through and you're like, text him, nope, not that guy, and like-

I'll tell you what. Your number gets shared sometimes. I've gotten a couple new numbers, yeah. A couple different times. It is really nice. Yeah. Well, you're not texting everyone in your phone book like, hey, this Pat got an Uber? No, no.

I actually don't text anybody until like half two, you know, and then I'll run into people and they'll be like, hey, man, like what's the, you know, and I'm like, oh, fuck, I forgot. New number, man. Here it is. You know, everybody kind of gets over it. You can do that. I probably lost some people in my life because of it.

People probably thought I was an asshole because of it. I'm trying to live. No, there was a high-ranking source, we'll say, in the NFL. Roger Goodell. A team person. Who I was pretty sure was mad at me for two months

because I was texting one number that was green and he was using the other number because he had shut down the second phone and it turned out he was not mad at me. He just had none of it on. Oh, good for you, Ian. Look at that. All right, so what happens with Aaron, you think?

Aaron goes back to Green Bay. If he wants to go to Green Bay, let's say he doesn't want to go back to Green Bay. What teams are still in? Are the Raiders in? Are the Jets in? If he doesn't go back to Green Bay, well, let me start. I do think retirement is possible. There's only one player, maybe person in the world,

who would say $60 million, I'm good, and that's Aaron Rodgers. So if he retired. He would, by the way, forever too. That would be something he would. You guys think I'm about money? I don't care about the money. Turn down $60 million to do what? Go win another MVP?

I didn't want to do it. Life's more than that. Like, he would. And it would be awesome to hear him talk, like be in the room when he was talking to whoever said something about him in a way that he did not like this guy. Will somebody tell this guy that I turned on $60 million to do this whole thing? It would be amazing. Like for instance, when I retired, they were like, you're walking away from six and a half million dollars. I was like, money, bro. It ain't about money, right? It's about happiness.

Money will hopefully follow. I couldn't even fathom what Aaron would be able to do with that with $60 million as opposed to six and a half million. That'd be fantastic. Yeah. And I wouldn't, so I could see that happening. If he retired tomorrow, I wouldn't be like, oh my God. I'd be like, okay. Like awesome career, healthy, had enough.

Like, okay. If he goes back to Green Bay, like like i said i think they would welcome it and i do think what do you think what do you think think think think you just think because you're like bob mcginn after years of studying the nfl do i actually think yeah no no like no i mean like on this source do you have sources that say that they would do that or is this this like pun training? No, no, no. I have sources. I mean, I believe very strongly based on what I've heard from the people I know well that if Rodgers came back, they would say, cool, let's go. Okay. All right.

That's a big piece of information. He's Aaron Rodgers. If he doesn't want to. If he doesn't, then you're talking Raiders and Jets. Still in. Still in. Still in. And the Jets are doing an interesting sort of thing because I know they

liked Derek Carr a lot. I know they're not going to make a decision until... I know... I'm not touching that. I don't want to get sued. I know... Smart. They would like to know... Rogers is number one. So they'd like to know Rogers first. So I... That's why timing is interesting because

if you're Aaron Rogers and you're going to get traded to the Jets or Raiders, at some point, there's things that need to happen. Probably got to redo your contract, got to get traded. They got to agree on compensation. There's a lot of things. So like the longer he waits,

probably the better is for the Packers getting him back because time is sort of on their side. You know what I mean? It's March 15th, right? That has to be the deadline. Cause that's when free agency starts and they kind of need to know. Well,

I mean, yes, but probably a little earlier, probably. Well, right. That has to be the deadline because that's when free agency starts and they kind of need to know. Well, I mean, yes, but probably a little earlier. Well, right, but I mean, that's the drop dead. Hey, need to know by March 15th. Right, that's the drop dead, but I would say probably like early March and like... It's almost early March. March 1st,

Wednesday. Yeah. And they're 100% going with Jordan Love. Definitely not bringing anyone else in. If Rodgers retires. Yeah, yeah. What would be the compensation if they were to trade him? Like our team still, especially if he's only maybe going to play like one more year, is the team going to get two first? He would have to play two, right? He would have to play two years?

No. No? I mean, I thought he was going to play two years. Last year when he came back to the Packers, what I was told. Almost retired. Yeah. From my sources, almost retired last year. Close.

I was thinking about it. Legit. Thought was there. Dancing with it. Yeah. Right. And now we're in, and that, I didn't quite know that, but that doesn't surprise me. Like, second year in a row of considering retirement.

Like, how many years are you going to do it until you're like, okay. I considered it for four years. I was a punter. There you go. If it is Raiders or Jets, can they ask for Max Crosby or Darren Waller? And then for the Jets, can they ask for Quinn Williams or Garrett Wilson? Yeah, how do you see the trade going? How do you see it going?

Player trades are hard because they're just hard to... You don't see a lot of them. They're hard to figure. They're hard to account for. Right, because let's say it's Quinn Williams. Okay, well then, you're trading Quentin Williams, who's awesome. Top of the market, great player, but you're also paying him

$25,000. He doesn't have his second contract. He does not have his second contract. The trade would have to come with the future. The value of Quentin Williams, even though he's an awesome player, is actually not as great as, say, Garrett Wilson, because Garrett Wilson's cost-controlled and on a rookie deal.

Waller would be a good example of someone who theoretically could be traded, although if you're Aaron Rodgers and you control everything, wouldn't you be like, I'd rather have that guy at my team? Yes. So you think picks? Picks. How many? They already gave the Packers all their picks for Devontae.

What do you think, a first and a third? I mean, I would imagine at least a first. That's the thing. The $60 million is a lot. Yeah, but he said he'd restructure. And I think he will probably restructure to spread out the cap anyway and push into the future for whichever team he plays for.

But if you're the Raiders or the Jets and you just know you're getting one year, anything else is a bonus. What is that worth? Both those picks are out of the top 10 too, right? I mean, if it's Aaron Rodgers, then you're talking mid-20s, right? At least. Probably.

He's going to make your team good. I'm assuming this year's draft. The Raiders would be a top 10. This is a big deal, right? I mean, Russell Wilson got traded, I guess, so that's certainly in recent history and it did not work out. But Aaron Rodgers getting traded would be a fucking massive ordeal. It's been different with the other, like Brady and Manning.

They were cut. Yeah, they were gone. Forced out. Which is wild. Yeah, you guys cut. Brady's contract ran out. We offered him two years, $57 million, but yes. We don't know if that's real.

It is. The guarantees were not $57 million. So you didn't offer him anything then? I mean, all the guarantees. He basically hit every incentive for his entire campaign. Yeah, nothing matters except for the guarantees. You guys wanted him out of there. I hate to say this.

Kraft had to sit down in a room with Bill. No, don't you remember this? The Patriots, I think they offered him one year. This is like so long ago. Like sex mail? Guaranteed. That was a long time. No, no, no.

I think they offered him one year fully guaranteed, because they didn't know how long he would play, and he wanted two years fully guaranteed, and he got it with the Bucs. Two for 50. Just one more year. Two for 50, right. Just one more year.

Do you really want to know what went wrong? And I hate to do it, because I love this man more than anything. Go ahead. Bill Belichick won a draft. A.J. Brown and Michael Lombardi said, Nikhil Harry's a can't miss. That's what you're saying. Sorry, but it's real.

How dare you? That's what fucking happened. We like Lombo. I prefaced it with, I love this guy. Yeah, well, you know which guy you were talking about. You said Bill Belichick first. Bill doesn't make decisions because he listened to Lombo and he listened to Patricia.

Bill listens to the people he loves and trusts, and Michael Lombardi is at the top of those lists. Lombo's gotten a lot more right than he's gotten wrong, just like you have, Rap. We appreciate the hell out of you, buddy, for stopping by on this very busy week for you here at the Indianapolis Combine. It's great to see you guys. I always enjoy this.

Yeah? Yeah, mostly. Plus he knows he's getting free fucking Bud Light when he comes through. Am I? Am I? Yeah, I'll give you a case. Come on. If you want one of the yonder.

There's a Steelers logo cans I recommend. They're fucking delicious. Why are you trying to get rid of them? You don't want them? No. Come on. If you want one, whatever you want. There's a Steeler's logo cans. I recommend them. They're fucking delicious. Why are you trying to get rid of them? You don't want them? No. That's weird. You're one of those people who takes a gift

and then gives it back? Well, this wasn't a gift. I mean, this is part of the deal. We're going to need... They taste better than the other cans and I just want you to have the best, right? Hey, by the way, Bud Light Partnership

has gone swimmingly thus far. Oh, yeah. They're fucking... Do you see how active their Twitter is with us? They, like like very much enjoy the fact that we're a part of the

Bud Light family all of a sudden and the stuff they sent us the hats are unbelievable I mean this beanie's awesome that's a great yeah look really good the sweats

the sunglasses sweats I love the sweats so much bro they got me I got uh J's they sent me

a pair of Bud Light 1's and Bud Light Air Force 1's I got Bud Light uh Converse. Chuck's? That's kind of sweet. Do you wear them or no? Yeah, they're awesome.

Yeah, they are. Bud Light. I wear them with a suit. They're a big crowd pleaser. Just a first class company. It's great. All right. Well, you know what else is a crowd pleasing operation?

If you make one of these throws into that bed. We'll stay back after break. We have Ian Rapport in the studio. What a dream come true. Thank you, Ian. Thank you. Actually, thank you so much. All you got to you, Ian. Thank you. Thank you so much. All you got to do, Ian, is throw.

Do I really have to do this? Yeah. You don't have to. No, you get to. You said you were going to. Have to. Easy money. You get to do this.

Although, I don't know, because you have bowling shoes on right now. That's interesting. Yeah, you should have had the Chucks on, maybe. Did you put blue jeans on before this? Right up here. Those are. You look good. Don't worry about it, Ian.

That guy shit his pants last Monday. Yeah, I did. Sue me, yeah. Well, don't. Yeah, exactly. Oh, yeah, no, no. I'm just kidding. All Ian has to do is make one out of five into that net right over there.

Any of the holes in that yellow net over there. Out of five. Into that net right over there. Any of the holes in that yellow net over there. If you go one of five, Ian, we'll give 20 people $500 who retweet this video, say something nice to somebody, and put their cash tag in the same reply so we can pay you officially on cash. Are we sure we want to do giveaways? Yeah, I have been seeing what people have been doing with their giveaway money,

and I did say that I was going to temper it back, but if Ian can make this, this is a massive, monumental moment for this program and for Ian. Combine week. Let's go, Ian, for the combine. First day back. That's not bad, though. Not a bad throw. Here we go. Test out the waters. Ian Rappaport, obviously former crew member.

Boom! Wow! Oh! Never been done. have been done. That would have been done. That feels... It went back door. I think it got it.

See, but Phil's obviously going to be pumped about that. He just won 20 people five or nine. Unbelievable. Back door and his way into the hole. Just like he does into his sources. Ladies and gentlemen, the man's a Just like he does into his sources. Ladies and gentlemen, the man's a professional back door animal. He's hosted the weekly wrap-up with Rap Sheet and Friends.

Us being friends, he being Rap Sheet. You'll see him on NFL Network all week from the Combine. We appreciate you, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you, guys. And from all of us to all of you, thank you so much for allowing us to do this every single day. We missed you immensely. We are thankful to be back. The offseason should be fantastic. We're up to something. We are cooking as every off season we tried to do. Wednesday, we're off. Yep. I know we just got back. Wednesday, we were off.

Have to do it. At some point, we will tell the story and everybody will say, had to do it. Anyways, we're back tomorrow. Will Aaron Rodgers be on? We shall see. Will he not be on? Probably. Be a friend. Tell a friend.

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