The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 869 - March Madness Round of 64 And 32 Recap, NFL Free Agent Signings And Rumors, Ian Rapoport, & Adam Thielen

Episode Date: March 20, 2023

On today's show, Pat and the boys chat about a crazy weekend of March Madness and all the big upsets, who they like going forward, and how awesome it is having games to watch all day through the weeke...nd, before going through all the pertinent NFL news that came throughout the weekend as well. Joining the progrum to chat about getting scooped, what he's hearing about different free agency news, what he thinks compensation between the Packers and the Jets will be and when it will get done, and everything else going on in the NFL is Senior Insider for the NFL Network, Ian Rapoport (20:00-45:13). Later, fresh off signing a 3 year deal with the Carolina Panthers, 2x Pro Bowler, All-Pro, friend of the progrum, Adam Thielen joins the show to chat about how he ended up in Carolina, what sold him, why he thinks they give him the best chance to win a Super Bowl, the other teams that were involved in the process, if he knows who the new Quarterback is going to be, if the allure of being a #1 WR had any impact on him going to Carolina, and much more (1:17:26-1:42:35). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, beautiful people. Welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this overreaction Monday, March 20th, 2023, the program starts now. Much mana! Shout out to Will Sasso and much mana on this Monday to all of you. I hope you had an incredible weekend. I spent a large portion of my weekend getting buried on the internet. Some warranted, some not, but there was also a lot of incredible things that happened around the sports world. There was a massive three-year deal for an offensive lineman who negotiates for himself. There was a trade that involved the America's team. There was March Madness. There were so many different rumors and conversations that have started.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Today, we'll be covering it all. Today, we have Ian Rappaport joining us in about 13 minutes or so. And Adam Thielen, a man who just signed a three-year, $25 million deal with Carolina Panthers, $14 million of that being guaranteed. We have assumed that $14 million is spread over the first two years, like every other contract that has been done pretty much. This particular contract cycle has been.
Starting point is 00:01:03 We'll talk to him at 1.30. Thank you, Adam Thielen, for allowing me to be the news break. Thank you to some of the insiders for giving credit later for me breaking the news. And congratulations to both Thielen and the Panthers getting a dog on a three-year deal. Boy, Thielen. He sent me a text out of nowhere. I was getting boom, boom, boom. You're a piece of shit. This guy's a piece out of nowhere. I was getting boom, boom, boom. You're a piece of shit.
Starting point is 00:01:26 This guy's a piece of shit. You've changed. Boom, bang, boom, boom, bang, pow. Had to have that conversation on the program earlier. Sorry we started earlier. We have guests locked in already. Needed that convo to be on the program, though, because I felt like it was something
Starting point is 00:01:40 that needed to be addressed. Don't love a narrative about me that I don't believe is true and also one that I'm very much focused on being the opposite because I would like others to be the same way. So I'm happy Brett stopped by for the convo this morning. He has
Starting point is 00:01:53 work to do this afternoon. Wasn't able to do it live. We appreciate him making it happen. Us moving on. And also like I think bringing light to a lot of potential things there. Situations. Good luck to everybody in that. Good luck to Brett. And shout out to Lawrence Owen.
Starting point is 00:02:10 I couldn't get it right earlier. That's apologizing. We had just got off a pickleball as well. I think everything has kind of been taken care of, I do believe, as of this moment and 11 o'clock timeline, which I've never seen, but it did seem like it was a very real thing um the time everything's been good so yeah hell yeah and i got to meet that guy who covers the colts and i think he's done work with some of my uh former teammates i've never met him
Starting point is 00:02:36 personally but i'm excited to follow along with his journey and everything he does for the colts shout out to him but i'm getting killed buying. Bang, bang, bang. DMs, tweets. And shout out to Foxy diving through the... Searching my name on Twitter these days is a tough thing to do. And I don't have a team. I saw a lot of people after I put a public tweet out go like, oh, the PR team is coming in places. I have to read everything that's on Twitter. It is vital to doing a three-hour show about topical events. I have to read everything that's on Twitter. It is vital to doing a three hour show about topical events. I have to know everything about everything pretty much. So I have to be on my Twitter.
Starting point is 00:03:12 I tried to, at least I try to read everything. I like to know little storylines that are starting to get going. I like to hear what people think about our show. I like, I am plugged in there. Oh yeah. Might be getting to a point where I can't be, you know? Yeah. It is loud.
Starting point is 00:03:25 I mean, I had to block 150 Packers people this week they were saying some rude things to me man i mean some rude stuff and it's like i don't need this in my life i got a lot of shit going on and i look at my shit so and also we give away a lot of money on twitter so like fuck this person who's saying this incredibly rude i'm like not scared to block people which did lead me to accidentally instead of muting so which was a big issue the whole thing so i certainly fucked up but in the middle of just getting killed on every platform that i certainly am on and at some point gonna have to go to rehab to get away from my phone whenever i get off of the social media digital media media space business as a whole boom boom boom boom boom i get a vibrate must be a text i go over adam feeling here we go wait a minute god great to fucking hear from adam feeling and i thought he was
Starting point is 00:04:10 gonna call me an asshole a piece of shit how come you can't help these people like what is your problem after i already did these people nonetheless i go in there and he goes want to break some news that was that since timelines are a big deal, and that was a massive part of the whole thing, you know, that just happened, and I did not handle it properly. He sent me a text at, let me find it so I get it accurate. He sent me a text at 7.08 8.00 Okay
Starting point is 00:04:45 PM Okay It's a couple hours Into me getting fucking This guy's a terrible guy I do believe Brett has deleted That tweet I think
Starting point is 00:04:52 Yep Nice Thank you Brett I appreciate that Because you were just Basically telling people Hey this guy's the Fucking worst human on earth
Starting point is 00:04:58 Who doesn't want to help anybody But Brett and I Had an incredible conversation We've talked since That conversation earlier today I think we're going to move along But at 7.08 He sends me me a text, want to break news? And I'm like, I actually said to him, my man, what's up?
Starting point is 00:05:10 Because this is a brand new world. I didn't respond until 7.13. I wanted it because that's not my business. I'm not an insider's business person, and I assume every minute counts in this entire game. Oh, yeah. So I waited 7.13 to respond, what's up? Okay. And then he goes, Carolina, three years, let's go. And then I put that
Starting point is 00:05:30 out like 7... 16, I believe. 16, I believe. Another three minutes on that thing. And it was obviously like eight minutes before Ian Rappaport, but who's keeping track? Who's keeping track? No credit from either or a few
Starting point is 00:05:44 other people. No, he'll be joining us here in about seven minutes. We will certainly ask him about etiquette. Yeah, I'll come forward to that. I gave five minutes. Eight-minute buffer total. Plus another three minutes. I gave eight minutes there to be like, you know, hey, this is not my game. Do your work.
Starting point is 00:05:58 There's people that work their fucking asses off to get this type of thing. I'm very thankful that we have become friends with Thielen. We fucking love Adam Thielen. We're very happy for Adam Thielen. We're pumped for the Panthers and also the golf courses down there. You're about to get a guy. A stick is coming into town. A stick is coming into town.
Starting point is 00:06:15 So I thank him for reaching out and doing that. But also, like, hey, Rep, what was he doing? Boozing you? Of course he was. What else is he doing? Rep, like, if I had you on that one, like, you know, I'm assuming... Yeah, you're sleeping big time these days. Old man's getting a little slow.
Starting point is 00:06:31 What are we doing, Rap? What are we doing, Rap? We thought he was a little pressured from Mirov, too. So we'll talk to him in five minutes. But Thielen will join us in about an hour and 15 minutes. And maybe special guest in the two o'clock hour. Ooh. Yeah, we'll see.
Starting point is 00:06:45 We'll see. You know, on Friday was JJ. What? Joined myself at Boston Connor, the toxic table. One half of the hammer. Done. Cowboys, Tone Diggs. And in yours place was not you.
Starting point is 00:06:56 It was PMI Mitt. Ladies and gentlemen, guess who's back? Back again. Ty is back. Tell a friend. That a baby Ty Smith. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:07:03 We miss you, buddy. I miss being in here. We were talking. We missed you, buddy. I missed being in here. We were talking. I appreciate you checking in on me, asking me how I was doing. I haven't been sick like that in quite some time. I really haven't. When you first kind of get sick, it's kind of been going around the office
Starting point is 00:07:17 a little bit. You think just like, oh, whatever. This is just kind of a stomach bug. I'll be good after 24 hours or whatever. I was down and out all weekend. I mean, like out of both ends, laying in bed, no appetite. I'm kind of starting to come out of it a little bit. You look good. I'll tell you what, that is no fun.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Yeah, but you look good. I appreciate it. I should because I lost probably around 10 pounds or so. Shoot? Yeah, like legit. And I still, I mean, I ate ate something this morning but i'm still kind of in the the wait and see mode i feel much better which is nice but i tell you whatever it was oh boy it had its its claws in me and it is finally kind of succeeded a little bit but god damn i hope
Starting point is 00:07:58 none of you guys get it no i well i think we missed the i hope yeah right or whatever right because i did think about that a few times last week and this past weekend. I'm like, I wonder if anybody's going to catch what Ty gets. Because it sounds like it was some sort of viral opportunity you had. And you're naturally kind of stomach fucked. So whenever you come out and say, hey, I don't feel good, we know. It's bad. Is everything okay?
Starting point is 00:08:22 That's why I was worried about you all weekend. I'm like, are you okay? And then Saturday you're like like still got it pretty much sunday late sunday you're like uh the last hour and a half or two hours has been good i'm like still holy shit dude you were battling over there oh yeah for sure it came in waves too you know you'd feel good i'd feel good for like 30 35 minutes and then i'd be nauseous for like two hours or so. And just, honestly, the worst part about it, and what I'm kind of still going through, is just like my whole body is just like aching, which sucks.
Starting point is 00:08:49 So, like, you're kind of just on like a take ibuprofen, take Tylenol. You feel good for a little bit, and then it comes back. The waves feels like COVID, right? Yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking. And even a little bit like a flu. But COVID didn't have the, you might have had like a mix of like COVID and flu. Because remember, I got, I had the shits. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:07 And the. And puke and like. The cold. Yeah, the sinus. The cold, the whole thing. Everybody else got kind of the cold, the whole thing throughout like the next week and a half. I was the only one that had the. The dumps.
Starting point is 00:09:20 The dumps or whatever I think. So I'm fascinated by all of the different sicknesses that are out there right now. But all I know is this. Happy you're back. Good to be back, boys. Miss you guys. We miss you. I got into some shit with your fan base.
Starting point is 00:09:33 I'll tell you what, man. It was loud this weekend. I was talking there. We got a chance to chat with Brett Coleman to start this whole show. We started the show 30 minutes earlier or so because we pre-recorded the conversation with him because he has to work this afternoon i believe he's going to i don't know a couple pro days i think he's got i think he's got some stuff going on or whatever so good for him but we had to um we had to pre-record it we ran it earlier we that whole situation needed to be covered had to be had to be covered this one about the packers burying me it's interesting a lot of
Starting point is 00:10:04 warranted stuff a little different i mean, a lot of warranted stuff. A little different. I mean, like a lot of things they were saying about me, I read and I was like, I mean, that's pretty valid. You know what I mean? The way they went about saying their messaging was obviously a little bit artistic. Like the whole gargling of Aaron Rodgers' dick, you know, that just kept continuing coming up.
Starting point is 00:10:20 We've been in those waters before. We've been there before. That's new. Yeah, international, those waters. So, like, that type before. We've been there for three years. International, those waters. That type of thing, I understand what you're saying. I am overly protecting Aaron Rodgers is what these people are saying in their own words.
Starting point is 00:10:33 They were saying a lot of mean stuff to me. A lot of mean stuff. Time will be able to tell all these answers. Everything that I said in that interview with Rappaport, that conversation with Rappaport last week about the whole situation, that was ripped and stolen from us. It was put up on a Packers blogger's Twitter account,
Starting point is 00:10:50 like five, six minutes of it, whatever. Just ripped it as their own video. And then the narrative around it was like, this is interesting. You know, knew exactly what, just like. Yeah, very similar. Just, they knew exactly what they were doing. As soon as I saw it, I knew exactly what they were doing. As soon as I saw it, I knew exactly what they were doing. But like, you know what, we're very lucky and thankful that everybody talks about our show.
Starting point is 00:11:11 So you're just stealing our shit, putting it up, and then telling people to bury me. It's certainly something that some places might, for me, I actually like kind of, I enjoyed the feedback that I was getting. I enjoyed what was being said just strictly because I talked at one point I did say he wasn't a smart human but it was in the middle of being a smart general manager conversation with Ian Rappaport and I clarified that after the clip that was ripped
Starting point is 00:11:36 stolen posted as if it was theirs they get all the numbers for they are a blog they probably will try to monetize off of that and going forward do their whole thing right so once afterwards i did say i said he wasn't a smart human i'm talking smart to him i assume he's a smart human he's a fucking general manager right in the nfl you have to have some sort of competence to get to that but literally everything else will be decided by time
Starting point is 00:12:00 and that's for my blog post on saturday morning it was like hey this is results oriented business bro yeah like everything is going to be figured out and i might be completely wrong but the venom that i was attacked at people are thinking that there's no chance of me being wrong it's like yo all this shit is going to get figured out here the trade is going to get figured out in the next couple months we we assume. We hope sooner than later because I think we have pointed out numerous times here that I'm not diving back into it.
Starting point is 00:12:33 The Packers, people think the Packers can just bend over the New York Jets in this negotiation. That's things that have actually been said. It's like, no, they don't. They have none. And I laid it all out. But I might be completely wrong.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Maybe we'll see what the trade value is. We hope Jordan Love is a good football. I fucking hope Jordan Love is a good football player. Jordan Love does not deserve to be in the position that he's in. This is not a fair way to start your NFL career as a first-round quarterback talent, which is what he was when the Packers traded up Leighton to make him a quarterback. Not his fault. Not his fault at all.
Starting point is 00:13:02 I hope he's good. But we will definitely see. Like, we are going to find out if the team that Goontagoon's put together, because remember, as GM, he inherited Aaron Rodgers. Right, yep. You know what I mean? He inherited this fucking team that was very good. We're going to see all of this stuff.
Starting point is 00:13:16 You, as a shareholder of the Green Bay Packers, you weren't here. You probably would have been, you know, at least correcting me a little bit on some of the shit that I said. So I did miss you on that aspect. And it was a day where you weren't here, which is a fucking shame. I wish you would have been here to, you know, either correct me if I was wrong or say, hey, people are going to be pissed about you saying that so I could explain a little bit more. But nonetheless, I got murdered by your people. And I respect the shit out of how passionate and loyal they are to the G, basically, to the Green Bay Packers regardless.
Starting point is 00:13:46 And I felt it on the shins this weekend. Well, like Tone was saying before the show, I think that there are like a handful of fan bases that for whatever reason, because this kind of like it really, I mean, before we're doing this show, you know, like you're on Twitter, but it's not to the same magnitude where you kind of get thrust into like, I don't want to say like a face of the fandom, but after draft night, a lot of people are either sympathizing with what I did and agree with me,
Starting point is 00:14:12 and it's like, yeah, that's bullshit. They shouldn't have traded up to get Jordan Love. That was dumb. Or there are people who are defending the team at all costs, no matter what. And I think because the Packers have been around so long, you're going to have a lot of people who do that regardless. I would say and I'm I'm in this this kind of this same bucket like I've never as a Packers fan watched a bad quarterback play ever and I think people are kind of you're in that like murky water where you're just you're just assuming Jordan Love's going to
Starting point is 00:14:40 be a Hall of Famer which we hope he could be could be. I hope he is, obviously, as a Packers fan. That would be incredible. But there's a chance that he's not. And that he's not very good. And that's kind of the beautiful or that he's somewhere in between. Or the team around him. Who knows if the team around him now, Guti, is completely built pretty much.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Yeah, exactly. So we're going to find out. And that's the beautiful thing about sports is this isn't a subjective argument. There is an answer to this like the bill will come due to this and either you're gonna be right or packers fans are gonna be right like there's no like they were clever the way they get they killed me bro i mean they were murk it was a slot i woke up saturday morning i was trending i'm like, what the fuck am I trending for? So I clip. Oh, pow, bang, pow. And I was like, God damn, everybody seems to be.
Starting point is 00:15:31 I thought we were friends. I thought I was. Hold on. I was a Packers fan. What do we. I feel like. I feel like I provided a lot for Packers fan bases. I sympathize with the Packers fans.
Starting point is 00:15:40 I went through a lot with Packers fans. And I'm like, damn, this changes quick. And then I started reading all the bloggers and reporters and everybody. Always going to defend the team and the organization no matter what. So they were kind of telling their people who have, these people
Starting point is 00:15:56 all have very loyal followings. Oh yeah. Because they were all kind of getting their directive from bloggers, reporters. Yes. Clearly. And then coming and cooking me in their own creative, which I will say, fantastic. I've dabbled with a couple different fan bases on the internet. I've stepped into
Starting point is 00:16:12 the ring, shall we say, with a couple of the Green Bay Packers fan bases were pretty ruthless. They were a pretty ruthless bunch, I will say. Coming from all angles the way they were doing it. But they were clearly getting their messaging together, is what it felt like. And it was all these bloggers and reporters and those types of people.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Why did they hate? What the fuck? It felt like they were waiting. It felt like they were waiting to kill me. It's like, whoa, whoa. I thought we were. I think a lot of the vitriol, too, comes from the fact that it's hard, even for me, in my mind, to accept that the Packers might not get two first-round picks for Rodgers.
Starting point is 00:16:53 The Packers might not get some unbelievable package in return for arguably the best player in the history of the franchise. I hate it, too. It's pretty disrespectful to Aaron. When Rainey Moss was traded for a fourth fourth rounder, I was fucking furious. I actually put a tweet about him. I'm like, a fourth rounder? To New England. Yeah, exactly. Bill Belichick thinks Randy Moss still got it. And you just give
Starting point is 00:17:13 it for a fourth rounder? I was pissed. I tweeted about it. I actually got called into a room in the Colts facility to be like, hey, don't need your opinions on other teams. You should have made this happen. I was like, valid. But also, Randy fucking Moss. So like, hey, don't need your opinions on other teams. I was like, valid, but also, Randy fucking Moss! So like, this has happened
Starting point is 00:17:30 in the past, but I think it's just the reality of the situation whenever it comes to who has leverage. And that is all I've been trying to point out, and I think the Packers have not created any leverage for themselves at all the way they've handled this. With what Mark Murphy said publicly, with how Guti has chosen to draft, whether it's him or not.
Starting point is 00:17:45 It's like every other team knows, oh, you drafted this guy, right? This is your quarterback. This is your first time being a GM. You have yet to see him. Like, that's all I was trying to say. People thought I was personally attacking them, like the fan base. It's like, yo, I'm not fucking attacking the fans. I'm commenting on a situation that's very real right now.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Yeah, and we also know the details of the contract. This isn't as if he's on the last year of a $30 million team-friendly deal. He is owed the most money in the NFL guaranteed. You can't just sit on that for a season and be like, well, it doesn't matter. This is Aaron fucking Rodgers, and on top of that, he's going to cost you, what, $50, $60 dollars if you don't that's like 50.3 and then next year it's 32 exactly a year after that it's like 40 something yeah here it is this is how much it would cost if he just was a backup quarterback on the team
Starting point is 00:18:34 for Jordan Love they have to see Jordan Love like they have to see Jordan Love they do not they have not seen him in his fifth year options his contract's almost completely done and rumors were that he was going to ask for a trade yeah because he hadn't been able to play yet. This is a vastly different time than when Aaron sat behind Brett Favre. Quarterbacks move now. Quarterbacks are very rare. There's a different league than it was back then. So we could be very wrong.
Starting point is 00:18:56 But just the reality of the situation in my eyes, which I could be very wrong. Believe me, I've been fucking wrong about it a lot. I should have just muted that guy. You know what I mean? There was so much going on. You were watching golf. There was like four people at night. March Madness was happening. And if you get one bad game during these, March Madness kind of sucks.
Starting point is 00:19:15 See you three hours later. I was planning on watching this game the entire afternoon. This game sucks. They had the UConn game yesterday. Five o'clock. They just beat the hell out of St. Mary's. It's like, well, I don't want to watch this. UConn might win it all. Reeves Davis told Darius Butler that on this particular program.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Joining us now is a man who might know more about the whole Green Bay Packers-New York Jets trade situation. That was originally Aaron's fault because he was dragging it out, not making his decision. Then Aaron came on the program. 496,000 or 498,000 people watched along as Aaron said, nope, this is the Packers and the Jets not being able to get a deal done yet. It is not my fault.
Starting point is 00:19:50 And now we're at a place where I am getting cooked so bad that my name is trending when I wake up on a Saturday morning just trying to enjoy my day. Joining us now is a guy who's got a big brain. He's a senior insider for the NFL. He's a senior insider for the NFL Network. He's a senior insider for the NFL. He's a senior insider for the NFL Network. He's a senior insider for the NFL website, and he's a senior insider for the NFL streaming platform NFL Plus!
Starting point is 00:20:12 Host of the Insiders on all the fast networks, and a weekly wrap-up with Rap Sheet and friends. Us being the friends, he being Rap Sheet, Ian Rapoport. Yay! Rap, what's up, dude? By the way, I wanted to let you know, so I don't know if we're going to talk later in the week. Sometimes we do.
Starting point is 00:20:27 If we do talk, I'll be at Kentucky Pro Day on Friday. And if you wanted to watch Kentucky Pro Day, you want to guess where it airs? NFL Plus! Let's go. I'll see you guys there. Hell yeah. Are you on the microphone at NFL Plus? I mean, I will be there. They don't let me do a lot of analysis stuff.
Starting point is 00:20:47 They let experts like Daniel Jeremiah, guys who actually know what they're talking about. Smart. I'll be talking about other stuff. It's going to be fun. Yeah, I remember I was watching Kanban though. You were hosting. Welcome back. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:20:57 My name's Ian Rappaport. Aaron Rodgers is making this drag out on and on and on. That wasn't true. Would you like to correct that? That was not. We found out that wasn't true. Yeah. Well, I don't know what day that was.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Saturday. Saturday was not true. Yeah, then that was not. And that was one. Oh, well, well. He actually had made a decision on Friday, which I didn't know, but that's why it's so good to have access to important people is you get to learn things along the way,
Starting point is 00:21:30 like the fact that it's actually the Jets and the Packers that are now negotiating and trying to figure this out. And I'm trying to look at where this goes. And deadlines are always what drives these things. There is a real possibility this rolls right up until the draft because that's the only deadline. It's about 2023 draft picks. And, like, when you actually have to use them is the deadline.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Yeah, and draft night is no stranger to massive pieces of information or trades happening. Not only, like, Aaron's, remember, Schefter drops that. Oh, yeah. Obviously, A.J. Brown gets traded in the middle of it. The Hollywood Brown gets traded in the middle. I mean, it's like draft night. Yeah, there were a couple last year. Because draft compensation is the thing, it's like we need it right.
Starting point is 00:22:18 We actually need it right now. So let's get this deal done. I'm intrigued to see who gets what in that whole thing. How do you feel about that? I got murdered this weekend because I laid out a case that I don't believe the Packers have any leverage. You were actually a part of the conversation in which I got murdered because I alluded to Guttenkunst not being smart,
Starting point is 00:22:36 and I said smart human. It was a smart GM conversation, though, which I think I more meant. I would go on to correct myself, but in the clip that was ripped from our show placed on somebody's twitter and then thrown out there for me to get fucking buried uh for which warranted absolutely warranted I did not get a chance to say that I thought he was a smart human because obviously you would have to be some sort of competent human to be an NFL general manager I'm just saying as a GM he's kind of of built this mess. Has he not? Mark Murphy as well with what he has said publicly. I don't think they're in a position to really, you know, because they need the draft picks.
Starting point is 00:23:11 They need him off of their thing. They've said we don't want him on the team. If what we don't want to happen happens, is what he said, we would use that. Mark Murphy said that publicly into a microphone. Judd Douglas might not have heard that. Maybe. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:26 But, like, how do you see it working out? What do you, what do you think happens? And do you have any clue where they are right now? I mean, I think right now they're basically kind of going back and forth on, on what the compensation is. And I would say,
Starting point is 00:23:40 first of all, Gutekunst is pretty smart as is Joe Douglas, as are most of these GMs. The real problem. Humans are smart. as is Joe Douglas, as are most of these GMs. The real problem here— Humans. They're smart humans. Smart humans. Smart humans. I'm trying to figure out who has leverage, and I've thought about it a lot, and I've looked at it a lot of different ways, and I still am not sure, and that's really part of the problem.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Because if we knew who has the leverage, this would be done. Like in free agency, if the player has the leverage, right? If the player's like let's say the last great player in his position then the prices go up up up until someone says i'm out and then the player gets all the money if the teams have a lot of different options of like all right i could get these three safeties for instance then the player doesn't have leverage and he needs to take the best deal that he can and that changes every year that changes every year every cycle yeah yeah got it right and like good agents good gms they identify the leverage and they say here's the leverage point here's how i could make the best
Starting point is 00:24:33 deal i cannot figure out who has more leverage i mean that's the problem so like no one has to do it now the packers don't have to say goodbye to aaron rogers both teams want to make sure the draft pick compensation whether you're giving it up to Aaron Rodgers. Both teams want to make sure the draft pick compensation, whether you're giving it up or whether you're requiring it, want to make sure that's right. So I don't see any point where they would just say like, okay, fine, we have to do this
Starting point is 00:24:56 deal until late April. I understand. I completely understand. So then you're just hoping that both sides will operate in good faith with each other and no stubbornness. If nobody has leverage, then they're just trying to make a deal with each other that makes sense for both sides will operate in good faith with each other and no stubborn if nobody has leverage then they're just trying to make a deal with each other that makes sense yeah for both sides and then but makes sense to both sides could be viewed differently by both sides which is tough in business yeah that is what that is why deals don't get done and also acknowledging and recognizing your leverage especially at a position is why you see some guys three years
Starting point is 00:25:24 into a five-year contract go, I want a new deal right now or I'd like to get traded. And everybody's like, he's still got time left. He's like, well, you're staring down what you got a year from now, what the market's going to be
Starting point is 00:25:34 versus what it is right now. Vastly different time. Everything is about leverage, which is why we've talked about it. But we'll see. Hey, we will see in that entire situation. It will air out in front of all of our eyes. It will air out in front of all of our eyes. Speaking of air out in front of all of our eyes,
Starting point is 00:25:47 before the boys have some questions for you, Ian, Adam Thielen, how long did you know that Thielen was going to the Carolina Panthers? I know it had been rumored that maybe Thielen and DJ Chark, I believe, also being rumored to the Carolina Panthers. Just yesterday, news broke that Adam Thielen agreed to a three-year deal with the Carolina Panthers. Great scoop. How'd this story – what was that?
Starting point is 00:26:12 Great scoop. Great scoop. Hold on. I'm going to let you know. You're talking about me? Yeah. You're talking about me? He didn't credit you, though.
Starting point is 00:26:20 No, look. Okay. Hold on. I just want to let you know. You said how long did I know? 6.31pm was when I got the initial call Okay I could not confirm
Starting point is 00:26:31 I was over at a friend's house Checking out this friend's two new bulldog puppies Which are exceptionally cute Oh, yeah Cool, man They're loud and slobber What? They're cute
Starting point is 00:26:42 Well, yeah, they're a little gross But anyway Oh, man. They're loud and slobber. What? They're cute. Well, yeah, they're a little gross. But anyway. Oh! Oh! Finally confirmed, and then I reported and was feeling pretty good about myself, only to find my good friend Tom Pelissero go, yeah, McAfee had this eight minutes ago. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Suck it. No! Here we go. So that's called an L. Yep, there it is. Sources. That's what I was real excited for about a minute. Check the time on that tweet. Can we go down That's called an L. Yep, there it is. That's what I was real excited for about a minute. Check the time on that tweet. Can we go down to the tweet?
Starting point is 00:27:09 What time is it? 722. Man, so late. Can we go down there? 716. Six minutes is like three years inside the game. That's an eternity. That's almost three hours.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Yeah, basically. So I'll go through my side of it. I mentioned it earlier, but I think you deserve to hear this because you understand the insider game. I was getting murdered on the internet last night for not being a good person, even though by that point I had already donated. Anyways, valid points were being made by everybody about me being a terrible person. 708, I get a text.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Who's that? Is that another one? Are you going to miss another one? Don't miss another one. You're boozing. You're boozing with Bulldogs yesterday. Missed one. Do you want to miss? Do you need that right there? No, no. We're good. We're good. 708, I get a text
Starting point is 00:27:55 from Adam Thielen. Want to break news? I was so happy. That was the first positive thing I'd seen my phone say to me in so long. Literally hours and hours yesterday. I waited though. Five minutes. I consciously thought for the next time we talk,
Starting point is 00:28:11 I'm giving five minutes for this because I am not an insider. I am not a newsbreaker. I know you all work very hard. I know you all have to drink an immense amount of booze with a lot of people and talk to a lot of people and be checked out for a minute. I understand.
Starting point is 00:28:27 So I waited five minutes, Ian, didn't I? I waited five minutes. And I said, what's up? And then bang, Carolina, three-year deal, locked, signed, sealed, delivered. I said, all right, well, fuck it. So I go to the internet one more time, Twitter, check your thing. Nope, this fucking guy. All right. I mean, I got the years. Because remember. So long. all right well fuck it so i go to the internet one more time twitter check your thing no wow all right all right i mean i got the years i got because remember so long deal and then also the
Starting point is 00:28:51 year thing those are two different breaks right right right i got dude team yeah length i didn't have the money but i had pretty much a picture you had a picture that's a big deal now well that was a gift there but i did add a picture to the Instagram one and he looks so cool. I made sure the C was on the chest there. Make sure everybody knows what the fuck's coming to town. Got a captain coming to town. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:14 This ain't no, this ain't no fuckery. You know what I mean? But this gift, perfect one celebration. I'm feeling in Europe. How you doing soccer time? So I put this tweet out and then I immediately, you know, my Twitter turns quickly, which was very nice. You got a very active Twitter account,
Starting point is 00:29:29 I would assume, with fucking what I experienced. And then we all start seeing Shefty and Ian. Schultzy. Schultzy even at the beginning. So what happens? You all get a text at the same time, you think, from your different sources that know the answer. I just so happen to get the text from the actual person
Starting point is 00:29:46 who had to send the agreement to somebody, and then that person either tells everybody or the next step tells everybody. What is the, why do you think it happened the way it did? And I just fucking smoked you, dude. Cooked your ass. Oh, my God. No, look, it was not pretty.
Starting point is 00:30:03 This was like one of those where, you those where you're on the dribble, and then I fall down, and then they're like, you've got to leave the court. That's kind of what's happening. Oh! That happened. One of those. The AFC can be a tough business.
Starting point is 00:30:14 The Scooptown can be a tough business. So this one, they were closing in on a deal. I'm talking to the different people. I could not get that the deal was definitely happening because apparently there was another team involved. don't know who it was 130 adam theelin will be joining us in 53 minutes from right now oh he could your source is um right so i just didn't i just didn't have it and so finally when i got like all right it's true i was like real excited and that
Starting point is 00:30:46 and actually the deal which you can talk to him about today the deal is legit have you seen it three years 24 or 25 million 14 guaranteed probably over the first two years no it's i think it's unless i'm wrong it's 18 guaranteed over the first two years baby dealing it's a really good deal rookie quarterback coming in you know deal. Rookie quarterback coming in. You know what I mean? Rookie quarterback coming in. Probably out from a couple contracts that maybe they traded this particular season as well, potentially, right?
Starting point is 00:31:15 Yeah. I mean, they did some other work, like Shaq Thompson agreed to a restructure. Basically, they are paying because you're not going to have to pay a rookie quarterback a lot. Like, this are paying because you're not going to have to pay a rookie quarterback a lot. This is the time to spend. I think the Panthers are in that window and clearly have recognized it and are spending on weapons. We'll see if DJ Chark
Starting point is 00:31:34 ends up happening, but there's been a lot of weapons added this free agency. Frank Reich, Josh McCown, Andy Dalton, all around that quarterback, whoever's coming in at one. They've said that they like the entire group up top. I don't know why you got to go to one then, but. I mean, I think the thinking is, so that's what Fitter had said today.
Starting point is 00:31:54 I think it was today. Yeah. Was that he had conviction on several at the top. So let's just assume for the sake of argument that they have conviction on two or three. Right. Well, then basically the way they see it is they control the draft. top. So let's just assume for the sake of argument that they have conviction on two or three, right? Well, then basically the way they see it is they control the draft. They can just take the guy they want at one, or if they literally have two quarterbacks exactly the same, exactly the same, they have no preference. They say, oh, well, cool. Maybe we can go to two. Maybe the Texans,
Starting point is 00:32:20 like they control it. And I think that is what they like about it. Worst case scenario, they take the best guy in the draft at number one. But maybe they go to number two, take a guy they like just as much, and the Texans trade up. There's varying different options, but having control of the situation is something they like. Yeah, there's more you can do, I guess, once you get up there, as opposed to trying to get up there. What's that, Phil?
Starting point is 00:32:43 I'm seeing your – no, you guys just retweeted your Randy Moss tweet. Yeah, I literally just retweeted it here while you were talking. Randy Moss for a third-round draft choice? I'm not a mathematician nor a scientician, but that doesn't add up. Nope. As you will see, I did not delete said tweet, though, either, which would go on to be a problem with my – You know what I mean? That would go on to be a problem. With my, you know what I mean? That would go on to be a little bit of an issue.
Starting point is 00:33:08 So we were wrong about a fourth rounder. Nonetheless, I felt it about a third rounder as well. What's the difference? Connor has a question for you. Ian, I appreciate you, buddy. Yeah, we're actually kind of a weird little offseason for Larry McTunsell. He was supposed to be traded for a couple weeks, and now he's re-signed a massive deal to be the highest paid tackle.
Starting point is 00:33:26 How did that come about, and is there a chance he still gets traded? And for other guys that are on the block, D-Hop, dudes like that, are they definitely getting traded, or do you see this possibly happening to more guys? Well, first of all, I mean, best case scenario is you reach a massive market-setting extension with your team. And I saw the Laramie Tunsil rumors, and I would imagine, I mean, what generally happens is when there are rumors on the Internet, teams go, hey, I saw this guy's available.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Is it possible that one of the best left tackles in the game is available? And I don't get the sense that Texans engaged on any trade talk at all because their goal was this is the guy. Like, this is the guy. Like, this is the guy. You know, there's not a lot of these guys. I mean, Trenton Williams, there's Laramie Tunsil. You know, we'll see if Darryl Starr in Minnesota, possible, couldn't end up as one of the – there's not a lot of these guys. So I think if you're the Texans, you're going to take a quarterback almost certainly at number two.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Having a stud left tackle to protect him the entire time makes a lot of sense. They wanted to do a deal it was a really large one three years 75 with 50 million dollars full guarantee yeah great reporting too out of your rap you got that one i did thank you very much yeah i was it was dicey i was pulling into breakfast with uh with my son max and uh there's no wi-fi outside the breakfast place. I had to hit it a couple times. It ended up going through. Are you sure you want to send or undo now?
Starting point is 00:34:51 The upload across the bottom always goes quick 95%. I took away the upload button. Now it just fires immediately. I can do that? My buddy Nick Underhill who's a reporter for the Saints, I was complaining at the combine. He's like,
Starting point is 00:35:09 you know you can change that, right? And I was like, oh yeah, totally. He's like, let me just do that for you. So yes, have someone do it for you. Okay, so I'll figure it out. Yeah, have somebody do it for you. I'm not completely useless. You know what I mean? I can figure it out. Underhill is a dog. Shout out to Underhill saying, I ain't got time. Don't be fucking second guessing me, all right? that's what i did the first time i read through the
Starting point is 00:35:27 motherfucking thing i almost think that too i put a tweet out and then i gotta fucking send it again i gotta go boom and then pow i like that they're adding an extra layer but i feel like i potentially came up through a generation where i watch people like really really fuck off not think it through yeah like what's the one of friends, he tweeted something one time when he thought it was supposed to be a DM. Bingo. So I feel like we have all been conditioned like, hey, read through this thing. I do like that there's an edit for 30 minutes that I can change,
Starting point is 00:35:55 you know, the way words are spelled. I like that. Can you change the entire thing? I haven't even tried. Yeah, I thought it was specific. Dude, because if you say something like, I love America, and then a bunch of people retweet it, and then you go in there, I hate
Starting point is 00:36:09 America. Or I love ISIS. 5,000 retweets. All those people already retweeted it. It's on their thing. That would be... That's kind of a problem. That would be a thing. I don't know if they thought about that or not. I think it's like five characters you can change. I think. I thought that's what the rollout was. Okay great work on getting that deal and speaking of deal i don't know if
Starting point is 00:36:29 you address it there at the beginning i was reading an update about something going on on the internet in the nfl world another rumor just got sent in the group text by our guy gumpy shout out um saint omni did you talk about him Have you broke down who this is? St. Omni is this mysterious figure in my eyes who is just like, hey, you want the greatest deal of all time? Get St. Omni in there. Try to Google him. I have no idea
Starting point is 00:36:56 what he looks like. Couldn't find him. All I would see is the fact that he's done incredible deals, has worked a lot of business, and he is not a certified agent by the NFLPA, and the NFL has been told they're not allowed to do business with him. So I'm immediately intrigued by this human being as a whole. Who is St. Omni?
Starting point is 00:37:14 Obviously, you've had contact with him. And is he legit not allowed to be an agent, or what is the deal with St. Omni? Because it sounds like that's a great fucking deal if he and Laramie Tunzel were able to... I would assume he's just... Laramie's thinking, conversating. I assume it's a great fucking deal if he and Laramie Tunzel were able to. I would assume he's just Laramie's thinking, conversating. I assume it's a council situation. Laramie Tunzel represents himself.
Starting point is 00:37:30 He always has. Laramie Tunzel has a big fucking brain. I respect it. But this St. Omni guy, not only for him, for Roquan, for others, is apparently a weapon. A weapon. Who is he? Who is he? And why is he not a certified agent?
Starting point is 00:37:44 Why can't more people just openly work with him as you kind of lose some service? Why do I understand? I'm literally sitting... You know what? Would be a good time just to go completely blank. I'll see you later. Now I'm all blurry. I don't understand what that's about.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Anyway, he is an advisor. He advises guys. Sometimes players do not have agents. Sometimes he advises players who do have agents. But essentially, an advisor. The player has the communication with the team, and he
Starting point is 00:38:17 helps them out. So why is the NFL not just saying, if a guy can negotiate a few hundred million dollars in deals that are shaped better than most deals, we'll give him an honorary pass. If you want to work with St. Omni, go ahead and do your thing. Why is it always talked about? It seems like, I just learned of him, I just did some quick searching. Seems like there's numerous people that have said the NFL does not allow teams to negotiate with St. Omni. What's that mean?
Starting point is 00:38:46 Is that a real thing? I mean, unless you are a certified agent, you're not allowed to negotiate directly with teams. And obviously with agents, most players have them. A lot of media people. I have an agent. I have a great agent. Shout out Jerry Stilbowitz.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Shout out. Shout out. Doing good bits. There's a lot more that goes into being That's Jerry Stilbowitz. Shout out. Shout out. Boy, Jerry. Shout out, Jerry. Doing good bits. There's a lot more that goes into being an agent than just negotiating a contract. Obviously, that's a big part of it, but there's a lot more. You are not allowed to – not everyone needs an agent. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:39:21 But when I was in the NFL, I had a couple agents that I worked with. I'm wondering what you're saying if not just negotiating is what they do. I'm excited to hear this. Well, I mean, it's finding them the right spot. It's negotiating everyday life. It's managing emotions and expectations and talking to coaches and talking to GMs.
Starting point is 00:39:37 If it's time to get you traded, then we've seen a couple pretty good agents get some guys moved to some pretty good places. So I think there's just a lot. But I think the main thing is— 90% of the NFL will not get traded or requested to trade because they can't because they would just get fucking cut.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Just for future reference. That would be a time-consuming thing, the trade thing. But, I mean, let's not— I don't know what I— I wasn't high enough in the thing when I was in the league. So maybe that's why I didn't get the whole, the only thing that a punter is getting from an agent is a negotiated deal here. That is literally, that is literally it.
Starting point is 00:40:17 I don't think that's true. I mean, I lived it. I mean, I was at my actual life. I've literally fired four of them. I think in a, in a whole thing, I'm like, Hey, need help at my actual life. I've literally fired four of them, I think, in a whole thing. I'm like, hey, need help off the field here. Like, I'm kind of doing my thing, would need help, and they're always like very cool and very nice, but never did a thing, I don't think, for me personally. Now, top-end guys where that 3% that you're allowed to get from the deal
Starting point is 00:40:42 is a lot higher. I assume they are working their asses off. And I'm not saying St. Omni is representing anybody but those people. But I think the NFL and the NFLPA should be like, you know what, sir? Is St. Sorry. Male? Yes. Okay. I assumed he had no gender. Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:05 I assumed he had no gender. Yes. He had no gender. I had no idea. I'm not even diving into that, but Saint could be a female name. I will stay out of that one. And I felt almost like sexist as I was like, this guy, this guy, this guy. There's a lot of people on the internet who didn't think they existed at all.
Starting point is 00:41:19 That's what I mean. He's just like a piece of wind that just flies around. This is amazing. So there's... Like Kaiser Soze? Yes. I don't know if that is maybe... I'll explain my example.
Starting point is 00:41:31 You tell me if it is the same as the person you said. So there's this business technique where when you're the top person or whatever, you do your negotiation, and then you say, I got to ask Mr. Kim was the story the first time I heard this particular story. I got to go ask Mr. Kim was the story. The first time I heard this particular story, I got to go ask Mr. Kim, see if he's cool with it. Sounds good. We
Starting point is 00:41:50 might make some tweaks. Mr. Kim was not an actual. Okay. Okay. Mr. Kim did not exist. Mr. Kim was just the bad cop. Whenever you were in the middle of negotiating with somebody first. Mr. Kim is the strategy I should have used a lot more in all of my negotiations, pretty much, that I've been through over the last two years. Is that what you're talking about? Like it's just a Fugues person of leverage who is the bad cop? Like I'll ask Mr. Kim. Mr. Kim knows everything about this business, happens to be in his family lineage. He's been in here 20, 30 years.
Starting point is 00:42:24 We will talk to him, and then we'll be able to get back to you or whatever is that what people are saying saint omni is wow that is legendary if laramie tonsil is like i'm gonna see what my guy saint omni has to say saints thinking and you know yeah so we were thinking i don't know how i could accept that deal and be considered a good businessman you know like i can't this would be me selling myself so short with who i am what the market is i deserve this that's what saint's thoughts were my thoughts were i want to get a deal done i thought it was good i want to get a deal done you know so just do what you're saying yeah like is that what saint omni is is that what people are saying? I don't read the internet comments,
Starting point is 00:43:05 but I just know that he does exist. He is a person. And he advises players. That's just a burn. Like you, Laramie. Hey, St. is working for you now. That's amazing. You've met
Starting point is 00:43:23 St. Omni. I haven't met this person, yes. In person? In person. They could hire someone. They could hire an actor. Hey, you're Saint Omni today. Bingo. Could. Absolutely could. Actual name or an alias?
Starting point is 00:43:40 Gotta be an alias. I will have no further comments yes something's going on yes dude hey St. Omni whether you're a real human or not
Starting point is 00:43:52 we want to let you know you're an absolute dog and we appreciate everything you've been up to wow I tip to that bro that is awesome
Starting point is 00:44:00 yeah whoever came up with that idea of make this imaginary person St. Omni they probably I'm being serious. They probably heard that Mr. Kim story. What's a cool name?
Starting point is 00:44:09 This will be our agency, actually. It is a great name. Incredible. Saint? Like a patron saint? Oh my god, dude. They're just staying at the Omni down in New Orleans. Omni's cool, too. Yeah, that's probably when they first
Starting point is 00:44:24 had a couple drinks. What? You know, fucking. We need an agent, but that's not a real agent. That doesn't take our money. Oh, my God. Are we on to something here? I have no further comments.
Starting point is 00:44:37 St. Omni's a G, dude. If he's real, he's stopping terrible. Ty, you've got to go, actually. We wasted a lot of time with this. I assume we'll talk to you later in the week we'll talk to you whenever you're in Kentucky we appreciate the hell out of you please tell St. Omni the next time you chat
Starting point is 00:44:50 we love everything he's about we're on to him if he's a real deal if he's a real deal he's a dog this guy is an absolute dog if he's a fake person we fucking love him I will pass along the message to this person. All right, sweet.
Starting point is 00:45:06 What a dog, dude. Just like you. Ladies and gentlemen, you'll see him on NFL Network in eight minutes. Ian Rappaport. What's the deal there? It's a fake person. Shit-eating grin. He might be St. Omni.
Starting point is 00:45:17 That is so awesome. Yeah, I could see St. Omni being like a 12-year-old kid, too. Dude, that's so awesome. Google him. No pictures, nothing. No chance. He's a financial advisor. Okay. me being like a 12 year old kid too that's so awesome google never no pictures no no no chance he's a financial advisor okay what's that mean this guy's in the middle of dealing with the nfl the nfl does business the way the nfl does business that's why i had to have so many you know i wanted to have an agent you know i stuck with hunter low well i'm getting two and
Starting point is 00:45:43 a half because i made him not take three percent because I wanted to feel like I did a deal. So it was like two percent or two and a half percent. And like we're getting two percent of fucking. This guy's making $2 million a year. We can get three percent of a guy making $45 million a year. Who are we going to spend time with? I'm like, makes sense.
Starting point is 00:46:00 I understand. Got to go try to find somebody else that isn't though. And then that's when I basically said, fuck it. I'm going to do this myself. Had a TV agent appreciated the hell out of them. Just like he said, cool people. Yeah. Try and do everything. Incredibly cool people. We are a tough thing to sell. I am a tough thing to sell. We as a show, tough sell middle of Indiana swear. Yeah. Hunter is the host of the show. That's the notable person. Okay. That's a tough sell. So I said, fuck it. I'm tired of hearing people just bury me all the show. That's the notable person. Okay. That's a tough sell. So I said, fuck it. I'm tired of hearing people just bury me all the time. I'll just represent myself and make their
Starting point is 00:46:30 lives probably much easier. And for us, we'll learn and hopefully be able to talk to people. It has failed a few times. It has failed a few times, but it's nice to be in there and learn this stuff. And I think it's a very complicated situation. I've made bad deals. I've made very good deals. Deal making is tough. Like it is a, it is not an easy thing to do, especially if you want to have success together. Because on the other end of the deal, you have to be able to get along and like want to work with each other. You know, like I want you, you want me. It's almost like presidential elections when they got those primaries and everybody's murdering each other.
Starting point is 00:47:04 And then immediately it's like, yep, you like that's what negotiations people talk about like business that's just business like there's some harsh shit said you can watch it on pawn stars and just act as if a human is the piece the fucking musket from whatever year it was whenever they're talking about this thing's gonna have to sit on the couch this thing's gonna be on the shelf it's dinged up it's not as good as this other one that i have like negotiation is like a pretty well fuck you like there's a lot of that and you have to be able to be on the other side in the same situation so the fact that they created potentially a bad cop yeah that they could just say you know i'm. And then literally at the end,
Starting point is 00:47:46 I told Saint that this is my decision. Saint knows that. I want to get a deal done. Can you just give me a little? Just meet us halfway here. Because then you're baby faced. Yeah. Then you're still.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Listen, Saint's being ridiculous about this. I want to get this done with, okay? This is like TJ Watt kicked his agent out of the way. Got the deal done. Remember? That was true. Of course. Yeah. Kicked down the door. Is the deal done. Remember? That was true. Of course. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:06 Kicked down the door. Is it possible to get him on and just do a voice changer and like the black screen? Yeah. And then like it's a super serious. Well, I'm not so sure. NFL teams aren't allowed to talk to him anyway. So can we not grant that guy a certification? Hey, if St. Omni wants to fucking do a deal, he's allowed to.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Why? Can we not grant that guy a certification? Hey, if St. Omni wants to fucking do a deal, he's allowed to. Why? Because he has a hundred some million dollars on his record with a better deal than 95% of the people that are certified. Can we not give him an honorary doctorate of being a fucking agent? We should. Can we not?
Starting point is 00:48:37 That's how business goes. You know what? We're actually giving this guy. He just negotiated Laramie Tunzel's biggest. this guy, he just negotiated Laramie Tunzel's biggest, like, the two biggest deals whenever Laramie Tunzel was up, one to Laramie Tunzel, with more guaranteed money than fucking everybody else in that position at the
Starting point is 00:48:51 time frame, always seems to win when he's negotiating. Which is why the NFL wouldn't want him around. Bingo. Maybe it's Bullgetta. But you're not allowed to be repped by anybody. So here's another thing, I don't know if they've changed it, I bitched about it because I thought it was bad business. In my words, it meant nothing.
Starting point is 00:49:09 So I don't think it changed. It might have changed. There was a rule where agents weren't allowed to recruit other agents' players. Like the NFLPA banned it. Oh, okay. No poaching? No poaching, yeah. So I wasn't even allowed to talk to another agent to see if they could potentially offer me something like better than what's going on or business that they have going on to maybe
Starting point is 00:49:30 represent me when nothing's happening with me so i was forced to fire agent that i thought was you know okay good guy probably great agent for a lot of people to even look potentially for another it's a weird it's kind of ass yeah it screws you it screws the players it hurts good agents but it helps bad agents so like i don't know how any of that is good for the player you know like the player that's not good for at all it's like well a bad agent could just offer up a money amount and you know sway somebody and it's not a good agent it's like well agency is about money like that is we're business relationship so if another agent is bringing money to the table like gonna go with that that's what the business is you know so i don't know why they ever did it but saint omni not being
Starting point is 00:50:15 certified or able to do any of the shit that other agents are able to do that are certified who have made much worse deals than saint omnini has. I don't fully understand that. Unless it's a fake human that can't get certified. Yeah, if it's a fake human, then that's one thing. On the other hand, St. Omni, if you do hear this, get to Lamar Jackson immediately. Yes, this sounds – St. hears everything.
Starting point is 00:50:36 St. will be here today, I'm pretty sure. Might already be here. St. Jesus? Might be a ghost. St. Jesus is see-through, right? I've heard. Is that right? A spirit.
Starting point is 00:50:50 We're in his house. He built the place. He did. Appreciate you, Jesus. Did a heck of a job, honestly. Gorgeous. This is God's house right here. This weekend's coming up soon, right?
Starting point is 00:51:00 Easter, right? We're in the middle of it. Yeah, we're in the middle of it right now. Two weeks. How are people doing? Everybody doing good? Yeah. Probably shut off, but yeah. I in the middle of it. Yeah, we're in the middle of it right now. Two weeks. How are people doing? Everybody doing good? Yeah. I've not done this one.
Starting point is 00:51:09 This is not something I've committed to ever in my life, but I'm very impressed by the people that do. Haven't had a drop of chocolate since Ash Wednesday. Okay, so it's the Catholics, right? Yeah. Man, impressive stuff. I'll do the fish fries and everything like that.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Oh, yeah. The fish fries at Boys Park were fucking phenomenal. No, we'll be on Fridays. Great hangout, too. Now, you do some history on why those. I don't want to be the bearer of bad news. I'm not doing it. Go ahead, do it.
Starting point is 00:51:36 I'm not doing it. Do it. Great business people. It was all big fish racket. Oh, I hate big fish. Allegedly. Allegedly, allegedly, allegedly, please. Yeah, they get fishy.
Starting point is 00:51:45 They did, and then McDonald's got into it, and you started doing the two-for-six Filet-O-Fish on Fridays. Dude, you should have seen how bummed I was. I used to love these fish fries. Like, fucking love them. Great hangout. There was music playing normally.
Starting point is 00:51:58 There was people from other schools there. So, like, you know, it was a great time. Then somebody, someday, had to ruin it all. You know why we're doing this? so like you know it was a great time then somebody someday had to ruin it all you know why we're doing this cause the fish industry weren't selling enough fish they thought they were
Starting point is 00:52:11 gonna go under so they just kinda manipulated this into something have to eat it on Friday and then boom fish business is saved I'm like why'd you do that
Starting point is 00:52:18 yeah holy shit I'm having a fucking blast here yeah right now I gotta worry about the ethics and morals and what who lied to who who got sandbagged you ain't gotta worry about any of that okay thank you just enjoy the fish i did it was great boy it's a great fit it was a great friday yeah and to be honest it's
Starting point is 00:52:32 a pretty cool thing that happens the discipline for 40 days and 40 nights that i can never accomplish but a shout out to the catholics i can yeah you do it no no no i mean in like grade school like you kind of had to you went went to Catholic school. Right, exactly. So, I mean, I guess you don't really have to, but you're definitely not eating meat on Fridays for school lunch and stuff like that. So that gets a little trying during the school year. It's like, Jesus Christ, you know, we've got a basketball game tonight. No, like praise you.
Starting point is 00:53:01 We've got a basketball game tonight. It's pork chop shapes in here. It is crazy how they flaunt it. Those volunteer fire departments can fry some fuck. Bro, so good. They were so good. I remember those being great times. It's crazy how they flaunt it, though. Their sign is a fish.
Starting point is 00:53:16 St. John's, I think, had one. Oh, yeah. Oh, I don't doubt it. It was good. Knights of Columbus are near you guys? No, I don't think we had any of those. No. Sons of Italy?
Starting point is 00:53:26 They get it done. Hell yeah. That's another thing. I swear to God. Wow, tone. Jeez. Obviously. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:53:33 It's interesting that you think... We're paisanos of Italy. Yeah, you don't need... We're not sons. We're paisanos. Dude, how about Gene Steratore? That tweet he put out last week, I don't know if we talked about it on this show.
Starting point is 00:53:43 We didn't. I was talking to you. Hey, Gene, I fucking love you, buddy. Love you, Gene. I love Gene Steratore. He tweet he put out last week, I don't know if we talked about it on this show. We didn't. I was talking to you. Hey, Gene, I fucking love you, buddy. Love you, Gene. I love Gene Steratore. He was crushing it all weekend. Crushing it. He's so good. How about him saying they also probably saw that this was going to be a wide-open bucket
Starting point is 00:53:56 so they had to go with the flagrant one there just for the sake of basketball. He pretty much said. And I'm like, Gene, speaking from the game. You know what I mean? Like he is the representation of the game. Like, well, you see, there's a little tug early. They've been playing like at all games.
Starting point is 00:54:13 So is this out of ordinary? You know, like breaking down the whole fucking game while letting you know why a call has been made or not. Like dad was a ref. Yep. Brother was a ref. Yep. He like loves officiating yeah like respects the games so much that he's talking about but so much effort i fucking love gene sarah he came to our training camp when i was young i think that's when i met him i think
Starting point is 00:54:38 because they send the refs to go to each training camp for a team meeting where they're breaking down the points of emphasis now Now the points of clarification. Points of emphasis, though. Still things. New name. Don't make sense. So they would come around and kind of break them all down. And we got Gene one year as opposed to there was somebody else.
Starting point is 00:54:57 Gene was fucking awesome. Like that room is a tough room, especially at training camp. You got really tired people, and you got humans from literally every single background on Earth in one room, trying for a certain amount of jobs, so the amount of stresses that are there, the amount of... Everybody's
Starting point is 00:55:14 tired as fuck, except for me. I was okay. I managed to be all right. Tried to bring my juice to everybody. Vin Terry, same way. We tried our best. We knew everybody else was living a much miserable life, more miserable life than us. We tried to do our thing. Gene Starethwa worked that room. Like just, alright guys, you know.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Walking around. Doing a full crush it. And then the next day of practice they stuck around. We'll be here all day tomorrow. You want to ask any of us questions? We'd love to. So the next day I think I started talking shit to Gene. I think I started talking to him about how good. I'm like, Gene, just come in and fucking crush it, huh? Paisan, western Pennsylvania guylvania guy he goes patty literally the first he said to
Starting point is 00:55:49 me so from that point forward every game i talked to him that he was calling before the game halftime basically every time i punted a ball so like i've always had massive amounts of respect because he knew how to operate dude you know like explain situations i think clearly had confidence when he was on a solo shot in front of 43 million people or 143 million people iso right the refs just you in your costume speaking with maybe a broken microphone. A lot of times. You are representing the entire game, the sport, the league, everything when you're speaking on this one shot. So I think like having moxie and confidence is an integral part of being a ref
Starting point is 00:56:39 because there's some refs you see that are scared to death to make the announcement that they're about to make. Oh, yeah. Because they think they're getting it right. They're not death to make the announcement that they're about to make. Oh, yeah. Because they think they're getting it right. They're not 100% sure. Gene knew he was getting it right. And if he didn't get it right, he was going to pretty much let you know why he felt the way he felt. And then he was moving on quickly.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Hockey leads the same fucking way. All the refs that we like have an incredible ability to communicate and also be likeable, which is a tough thing to do in the roughing uh profession and he did in two fucking sports yeah exactly college basketball and the fucking nfl bro well and that's what we i mean like and he said it too he's like you know some of these guys you can tell like you know the moment gets to him moments too big that was never the case with gene he he thrived when the moment got the biggest and that's what i was even watching those games this weekend.
Starting point is 00:57:25 I was like, you know what? God damn it. I wish Gene was at some of these sites calling these games. Legit. We need him on the b-ball court still. I love the one ref said, this won't be as good as Gene's territory, but I got this. It's like, I like that he's getting respect from them too.
Starting point is 00:57:39 He put out a tweet about us having Aaron on and a tank top and a gold chain. And he said, true Paisan at the end. I'm like, Gene, we appreciate you, bro. Thank you. Love you, Gene. We need to do more with Gene. Yeah, that'd be awesome. He's a legend. Speaking of legends, Adam Thielen's joining us in 25 minutes. Here we go, Adam.
Starting point is 00:57:58 There's 54,000. What are you guys doing? What are you guys doing? We're about to take a break. We have to take a break. Call in on the 5-Hour Energy phone line-833-432-3663 also 1-833-4-DA-DOM-E which we are live in the thunderdome we can't thank you enough for joining us on this glorious monday i had a weekend where i was taking shrapnel a A lot of it on the Twitter. I was in there. I deserve some of it.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Some of it, I don't think so. But time will tell on everything. That's right. And we made a couple new friends, right? Yeah. That's what it's all about. Made a couple new friends. Learned about some people's existence.
Starting point is 00:58:42 Love making new friends. Got a little tough, too. You know, got a chance to really sit in there and fucking handle some shit again. It's good to get that every once in a while. Hardens you. Absolutely. It does. I got 27 death threats after my junior year of college, after I missed two very short field goals in the first quarter of a game that we lost.
Starting point is 00:58:56 If we would have won, it would have put us into the national championship. We lost by four after Pitt took a safety late. So I got some blame from some people for that, rightfully so. I agreed with them. I felt terrible about myself. But it was at that moment whenever I heard a bunch of people who didn't know who I was say something very terrible about me and my family that I realized that maybe you're going to have to be a little bit tougher.
Starting point is 00:59:17 But I also realized, got to hear this type of stuff sometime. Got to hear this type of stuff. Good. Build you up. You know, it makes you, your perspective on life change a little bit. Like last night I was laying down after just getting slaughtered all weekend on the internet.
Starting point is 00:59:34 Rightfully so. Some of it. Not all of it. I would never say that. But I looked over at my wife. She was beautifully pregnant and beautiful at the same time my dog valerie was laying in between my legs fat chuck was over there corgi that's the largest in literally maybe the world largest corgi on earth for sure chuck i don't know what the fuck
Starting point is 00:59:58 they fed this thing whenever he was small but he was the last one sold out of his group he was around for a long time nine months this dude wouldn't sell. Everybody else sold. Every Corgi's like, buy, buy, buy. This guy doesn't get bought. I think everybody else knew that he was potentially going to be the Andre the Giant of Corgis. And they were a stubborn bunch. So, I mean, a big Corgi can do some real fucking damage.
Starting point is 01:00:22 And take up some space. He's on the bed. Nova, the cat's on the bed. There take up some space. He's on the bed. Nova, the cat's on the bed. There's a three-legged cat on the bed. And I thought to myself, everything's all good. You don't have to pick your phone up. This is the only thing that truly matters.
Starting point is 01:00:40 So I'm very thankful for all of it. And I'm appreciative that I got hardened a little bit this weekend. I deserved it. all of it. And I'm appreciative that I got hardened a little bit this weekend. I deserved it. Some of it. We'll be back in the next hour with some phone calls on the 5-Hour Energy phone line. 1-833-432-3663. Also, Adam Thielen.
Starting point is 01:00:58 What are the deets? Ian Rappaport said maybe there's another team. Oh. Did we know that? I thought. Was it the Ravens? Oh, yeah. I thought there was another team. Did we know that? I thought, was it the Ravens? Oh, yeah. I thought there was one other.
Starting point is 01:01:10 I don't know if it was the Ravens. I wonder if Thielen will tell us. Remember T.Y.? Yeah. He came on the show after signing back with the Colts. And he said there was another team that was involved in it. And he said, I asked him, I said, there was reports of another team being involved. Was that true? He goes, there was, there was. I'm not going to say any names's reports of another team being involved. Was that true?
Starting point is 01:01:25 He goes, there was, there was. I'm not going to say any names. And then Connor goes. Baltimore. Yeah, yeah, it was Ravens. That was an awesome moment. Will that happen with Thielen or Thielen be open with us? Maybe.
Starting point is 01:01:38 Three years, $25 million. He wanted you to break the news. Yeah, why wouldn't he? I met one of his guys. I don't know if he's directly related to Thielen, a manager of Thielen, or a friend of Thielen. Thielen's face tattooed, boom, right on his thigh. That's right. Nice.
Starting point is 01:01:55 Remember that? Yeah. Thielen's a dog, dude. Foxy sent Thielen into the group just with exclamation points, and I thought he was a cult. I thought that meant Thielen's a cult. Me too. And then I went to the internet and saw your tweet. He was not a cult. He's a panther.
Starting point is 01:02:08 Carolina. Did you go to everybody else's tweets too? Nope. I checked the top thing. Mine wasn't on there. Because I had his name at a Thielen 19. Not Adam Thielen. I had a chance to do
Starting point is 01:02:24 the whole insider thing. I didn't do it accurate. Gotta put Adam Thielen. I saw yours. I had a chance to do the whole insider thing. And I didn't do it accurate. You've got to put Adam Thielen in there. I think this is what we've learned. No, that's the difference. You personalized it because you're sending a message to him because you're buddies with him. And you're not just using him as a puppet and just saying,
Starting point is 01:02:39 hey, Adam Thielen signed with Carolina Panther. You could have done that. You say, you know what? No. I'm going to put his Twitter handle in there so that people click on his profile and they can learn a little bit more about him. And follow him. Yeah, follow him.
Starting point is 01:02:49 Hey, this is the new Panther. Good guy. And if you're a Vikings fan, fucking I'm full of him. Yeah, exactly. I'm joking. I'm joking. He did a lot from Minnesota. That's right.
Starting point is 01:02:56 Guy had to pay to do a workout to get into a workout to make it into the NFL. I thought he was a three-time pro bowler. I guess he was only a two-time pro bowler, one-time all-pro. Should have been three. Feeling great. Four or five. Feeling great, he said. People are like, ah, he's trash.
Starting point is 01:03:12 It's like. He's not. How do you know? Justin Jefferson had 180 yards in the first half. Do you think there's any thought or play? Nope. Justin Jefferson's good enough. We are not saying anything about Justin Jefferson at all.
Starting point is 01:03:26 Fucking love Justin Jefferson. Everything he's about, he's great. Do you think Adam Thielen's getting any plays drawn up for Adam Thielen right now? Do you think there's any? Do you think there's any? Probably not. For good reason. And Adam Thielen knows. Adam Thielen knew that. I think he appreciated
Starting point is 01:03:42 that role. And then now he got a chance to hit the market. I don't think anybody expected him to get the amount of money he got. No. But Thielen's in great shape. Still got a lot left in the tank. I think so, too. Especially in the right offense.
Starting point is 01:03:54 Yeah. And they got Miles Sanders over there now, Hayden Hurst. Great golf course, as you said. They said they're going for DJ Chark. Yeah. Add him. They need kind of an older guy in the room, too. They're going to be a young team on offense.
Starting point is 01:04:06 They need a guy who can, you know, kind of bring along some of the younger guys. That's crazy. He just got done doing that. Hopefully, Father Time waits for no man. That's right. We'll ask him about that, too. Hey, you're old. Three-year deal.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Holy shit. You don't keep... Oh, he owns gyms. He does. Oh, yeah. Probably takes care of himself. I assume so. Delicious protein bars. Dude, those are great. What are they? Overeasy or something?
Starting point is 01:04:31 Yeah. All right. Let's take a five minute break. We'll be back to start hour two. Probably 16, 20 minutes into hour two. Adam Thielen will join us. Your phone calls will be here. And there's a lot of news we haven't even talked about. St. Omni kind of carried the first hour. I assume we're going to revisit that topic of conversation at some point when we
Starting point is 01:04:48 talk about Laramie Tunzel, his deal. Lamar Jackson's interview dropping on his YouTube channel at LamarJacksonEntertainmentI 775. Hell yeah. Hell yeah, Lamar. He's taking control of his own narrative. I fucking love everything about it. Excited to hear what he drops,
Starting point is 01:05:04 how it drops, and what it means for the future of him, the NFL, and the Baltimore Ravens. Yeah, hopefully we can hear it. I am worried about the lack of microphones. There'll be captions on there. YouTube's good enough. That's how we all watch everything anyways. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice.
Starting point is 01:05:17 Okay? Okay? Yep. I need to practice that as well. A little bit more A couple tweets I was like okay Yeah A couple messages
Starting point is 01:05:31 I was a little rude Come on It's on me I thought that was rude The narrative that was getting built I did not like that at all I thought that was rude That's why I had to address it
Starting point is 01:05:44 And we did Brett's a good guy for coming on here and talking. Yep. Matt Painter's taking a lot of heat here in Indiana. A lot of heat. I mean, nationally, I assume it's happening as well, although the conversation is about the current tournament more so than what happened already in the tournament nationally.
Starting point is 01:06:01 Locally, and around Indiana, I think this guy is getting tough. Now, I see a lot of people going to bat for him, though. A lot of people also going to bat for him. A lot of media people going to bat for him who believe that Matt Painter has done things in an incredible fashion while at Purdue, has kept them relevant, has been an incredible, outstanding citizen in the Purdue area, and everybody kind of loves the way he does his thing.
Starting point is 01:06:26 With that being said, 15 last year, right? 16 this year. What happens in the tournament to this school? Just because you wear a Purdue jersey, that means you can't play. What happens? They're just bad luck. Fairleigh Dickinson's tallest player, 6'6". 87'4".
Starting point is 01:06:42 He had 30 or something. He had 30 and 10 He had 30-10 They do that and lose somehow still That's unbelievable By the way, Fairleigh Dickinson 3-0 ATS on the tournament They made everybody money there Everyone's favorite team right now
Starting point is 01:06:54 Last night, plus 16.5, a team from New Jersey Giving them 17 points against a 9 seed Now listen, that dude from Gary, Indiana He's a player He's a fucking player This guy's unbelievable He's got. He's a fucking player. FAU. This guy's unbelievable. Yeah, for FAU.
Starting point is 01:07:07 He's got burst. He's taking it to the rack. Like, it doesn't look like he's that tall. He wants the mid-range, and he's shaking everything. He was a fucking player, dog. First player in the history of the tournament, I think, with 25 points, 10 rebounds, 5 assists, and 5 steals. No one's ever done that before. This dude was all over the place from Gary, Indiana.
Starting point is 01:07:24 What was his name? Josh? Can't remember. Smith, maybe, was all over the place from Gary, Indiana. What was his name? Josh? Can't remember. Smith, maybe, was his last name. Maybe not, but you knew. You knew when you were watching him. Hey, this guy's a player. Yeah, but against a nine seed, they were getting 16 and a half points.
Starting point is 01:07:36 This team, I'm like, did we watch them play? Have we heard their coach speak to them? Peace. Their coach, the way he speaks to them, like, I really enjoy it. He said, right message, wrong audience about that first one, but the boys he speaks to him, I really enjoy it. He said right message, wrong audience about that first one, but the boys responded well to it or something like that. He addressed saying, I hope
Starting point is 01:07:51 Purdue hears this, because that's something that I, as a coach, I just don't know. As a coach in March Madness with what Purdue has done that, but I enjoyed the fact that he talks shit and he lets his team know that he talks shit. Then whenever he said he heard the fau some of their staffers were like fdu looks like they're ready to go home that was his motivational speech before that he's like we're
Starting point is 01:08:12 not ready to go home are we like the way he talked and the way they reacted to him it was like this team's all in and they had to move because they were the shortest team in division one basketball i 16 and a half points i said you got to've got to be kidding me. Did you buy that? I didn't. Yeah, we heard him talk in the hallway. He said, we're going to go home. Yeah, I did. Okay.
Starting point is 01:08:29 I played soccer growing up. I actually thought of my coach. His name was Mike Dyer. I looked him up. He's still alive. I haven't talked to him in a long time. I looked him up because of that. He used to be the greatest.
Starting point is 01:08:40 I heard them over there just say. Oh, nice. Every single game, it was his thing. It was fucking awesome. Had us going. But I actually Googled him. Still alive. Here we go, Mike. Mike, shout out to you, pal. Thought about you yesterday. Spent a lot of time
Starting point is 01:08:56 on the road with that guy. He was coach of a team that I obviously traveled with every single weekend with my old man. What a fucking legend. But yeah, I did not. That's awesome this guy just used the mike dotter clip right there yeah did you see the pat off after the game between the two fau coaches because old buddy tried to do the dunk at the end it was just a lot of patting on both sides of it so i think there was a turnover of the wrist too potentially oh yeah
Starting point is 01:09:19 there was a jounce on who's on top you know because, because the game. How you doing? Keep it moving. What's the coach's name who's the FDU coach? Tobin Anderson. Anderson. There it is. I almost said Emerson. Tobin. Emerson. Tobin.
Starting point is 01:09:31 He's an Iowa guy. Is he? No, he's Ball. That's right. He was dramatically saying no foul. Yes. To the whole arena. It's over.
Starting point is 01:09:39 It's over. Hey, we literally say it was a hell of a run. You guys win. For old Buddy just to be like, okay like how many times you hear you know and try the windmill dunk miss yeah you gotta bad you're gonna do that you gotta make it have to just the thought of what the fau coach had to say to that player after the game when it was supposed to be a joyous occasion right you know that's a whole that's a whole thing in of itself. 16 and a half, dude?
Starting point is 01:10:09 That was a lot of points there. I would have talked about it more, but I was just getting slaughtered. I got FAU in the final four, and I was like, that 16 is too much. Oh, you got FAU in there. You said, oh, I took a 19 to the final four, and it's probably going to happen. Yeah, maybe. It might. Who knows? Hey, this tournament's been bananas.
Starting point is 01:10:26 Princeton. When Arkansas beat Kansas. Kansas. No, Arkansas beat Kansas. I didn't know if they were pronounced the same. I was going to say, if there was a Kansas state, I probably would have taken them to the Final Four as well. I didn't know if Arkansas was pronounced the same. Kansas. That was a good game.
Starting point is 01:10:41 The only ones left are Houston. And then who was the other? There are people that do Arkansas. That would have helped you if you were one of those. If you grew up in an area that said Arkansas, in that particular sentence that you were just in, completely fine. Boom. Houston and Bama, still good.
Starting point is 01:10:57 Princeton's a 15 seed in the Sweet 16. They were fucking ripping it up in Jersey after they won. So that wasn't real, right? They were obviously having a great time. I really am. I'm really not sure. I don't know. Yeah, I could see it being real.
Starting point is 01:11:10 Yeah, I don't think they give a shit either way. I saw Kyle Brandt with a Princeton shirt on on TV. But he played football there, you know? This was on Bleacher Report. Made me laugh heavily just because this would be a good piece of content. Yes. About Princeton celebrating. On like a Monday night filming this and saving it. laugh heavily um just because this would be a good piece of content yes about princeton celebrating i'm like a monday night filming this and saving yeah bingo having this video and piecing it together that would be a brilliant content creation because it did get picked up a lot
Starting point is 01:11:35 of people seen it yeah those princeton people gotta be partying because they're doing the sports good right gotta be i hope. I don't think so. Like, I bet they definitely didn't cancel classes. You know, you go to, like, a big school that gets in the dance. Like, if you have a professor who has a fucking clue, it would be like, hey, don't worry about couple classes. They're probably coding today. They probably didn't know. That's what I mean.
Starting point is 01:11:56 Is Princeton a coding school? Or what is Princeton? Business? What is it? Everything. So I just assume all those super high-end schools are just all the business, money, law firms. Doctors.
Starting point is 01:12:08 Doctors, yeah, of course, doctors. Just all of the— English, the arts, that kind of stuff. Tech. There's arts in there? Tech? Yeah, big tech, I assume, is just coming out of there somewhere. And then, like, president major, like, I'm trying to be a president.
Starting point is 01:12:20 Right. I'm doing okay, you're doing this, I guess. And then they're all in frats, right? A lot of them, yeah. Big frats. They're all in like super frats. Business frats. That are just connected forever, right?
Starting point is 01:12:30 Yeah. And they do learn well. But I've heard what Brown is like pass fail or something. Yeah, Brown rips it. Yep. Brown's pass fail. That's Ivy League school. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:12:39 They're the ones taking down the banking system. What's that, Bell? What? You said something about the banking system. I pulled all my money out. Yeah, Tony. It's under my mattress. Not a smart thing to say on a show that probably has a few thousand people watching at this exact time.
Starting point is 01:12:55 I had my maybe voice going. Okay, so you're saying to the people that just heard that and 52,000 people are watching right now. You want to give them your address? Yeah, Tony, you should send a text. Get that into a bank again. I don't know. It's interesting because I've always thought about pulling my money out of the bank
Starting point is 01:13:11 and just burying it somewhere. Sure. And just literally just being a cash operating human. Because the first time I went to Vegas, I was hot on the tables and I was trying to get more money out so I could take advantage of it. They wouldn't let you.
Starting point is 01:13:22 They wouldn't let me take my own fucking money out of my own account, which I guess is very standard. I did not know this was my first time with a card. I did not know this. This is after I got to the NFL. First time ever with a card. Okay?
Starting point is 01:13:34 Didn't want a card. Don't want to run into any shit with a card. Get a card because you have to get a card. That's what I'm told. I get to Vegas. I am rolling. Rolling. I can take advantage of the opportunity right now and let's go just a lot of people probably think that in vegas as well
Starting point is 01:13:50 and i would like to reserve the right to be able to do it i would like to as a human as an adult with the money that i have earned that is technically mine i would like the ability to fucking do it right now they're looking looking out for me. I appreciate it. Can't get a hold of them either, obviously, because the time. Why does it do the whole thing? Opening the card takes a few hours. By that point, am I still near an ATM and hot? No.
Starting point is 01:14:15 So I said, I'm taking all my fucking money out of that bank. I'm putting it in a hole. Ten people told me it was a bad idea. I listened to all of them. I still left it in there. Are people really taking money out of the bank right now because they're scared to death it's going to disappear? Because I was told by ten
Starting point is 01:14:32 very intelligent humans do not do whatever you're thinking about doing. I don't know what they're doing, but I'm pretty fucking pissed at the follow your, whatever, not you follow. No, there's a you follow, what's the other tab? It's for you tabbing. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:47 A lot of that in there. All this fucking bank shit. Dude, real shit in that. That people dying in fight videos. Bad fights. Yeah. Bad fights. The entire for you fucking tab for me right now. Yeah, fight haven. I had to block them. I couldn't do it anymore. Yeah, what's the deal? Why is it happening?
Starting point is 01:15:04 Do we know? Elon said what? He's opening up the code for the algorithm for you. He tweeted that or something because I've seen him tweet that. I don't... Yeah, what's going on? I'll stay on the following world as much as I possibly can. And then obviously people send me stuff that's happening around the world in my mentions. So I bounce from following in the thing. That 4U tab though, yeah, I was watching people just get fucking knocked out. Bad ones, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:30 At school or on the street, yeah, it has been bad. Bro, this is not fun. Don't need to see guys' heads bouncing off the concrete right before I'm about to go to sleep. I saw this one guy, though. Two kids came running across the street. Saw that one, too. Big son of a bitch.
Starting point is 01:15:45 Oh, my God. Backwards hat on. Start the fight. He goes, come on. Like a movie. Yes. Come on. These two guys come running up, duck footed.
Starting point is 01:15:54 You can tell by the way they're running. It's going to be bad. This is knocking them. No kicks. Soft chin, soft jaw. Running over, coming over. And this dude fucking body slams one of them. Boom.
Starting point is 01:16:05 You want some? And then that boom. I was like, coming over. And this dude fucking body slams one of them. Boom! You want some? And then that boom. I was like, God damn. Nice to know that that's still out there. Yeah. He's huge. That dude was, it looked like The Rock's character in Moana. Dude.
Starting point is 01:16:19 Those two guys running up to him had to have more and more great character can sing very well yeah you're welcome yeah you're welcome the regret building while they're running i could almost watch it in the video none of us could have expected that dude to do what he did no and in the i believe those two kids was that their mother running running out behind him too yeah and she was also talking shit to the big kids so i think like, I understand why they're doing that because we all watch this video in the For You. So we're all on their platform for the duration of that video. What we're saying is you don't always have to just pick
Starting point is 01:16:55 the worst things on earth to be the thing that are keeping people on your platform. No. It has to be other stuff. Maybe like a Golden Retriever video. That'd be good. That'd be one of those. That'd be so cool.
Starting point is 01:17:04 Bulldog, couple Bulldogs. Bulldogs. How many of you say that Bulldog just passed Golden Retriever video. That'd be good. That'd be one of those. That'd be so cool. Bulldog, couple Bulldogs. Bulldogs. How funny you say that. Bulldog just passed Golden Retriever for the most popular dog. French Bulldog, I do believe. Not American. Fuck! Yep.
Starting point is 01:17:12 I have English, so. Yeah. I'm taking that. Well, in England, that might be number one. I did watch that, though. They won the... Best in show. The best in show.
Starting point is 01:17:20 And then they also got voted as it. French Bulldogs are cool, too. They're just a little small. Corgi's most cool. Joining us now is a man who just found a brand new home. This guy's 32 years old. And the reason why I say that is because this man has accomplished a lot.
Starting point is 01:17:35 Coming out of college. What college you go to? None of us know. Mankato State. Boom. One of us know. Near Saskatoon. He went to one of those schools that shows up in March Madness, and you go, holy shit, that school exists. That's a real place. To play football, though.
Starting point is 01:17:51 Nobody went there to scout him, and that's a shame because this guy had to pay to get into a regional workout. He was seen at that regional workout as, wow, this guy might be a champion on the football field. Then he had to go to another workout and another workout and finally found his way home to the Minnesota Vikings. And what did he do there? Oh, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:18:10 Just went on to become an all-pro and a pro bowler and a captain. Now, with his first time ever being in free agency, I do believe, testing the waters, he has found a home with the Carolina Panthers. Carolina, obviously the home to an owner who's the second wealthiest in sport, a brand-new regime, great golf courses, Carolina Panthers. Carolina, obviously the home to an owner who's the second wealthiest in sport, a brand-new regime, great golf courses, and this man's services, ladies and gentlemen, Adam Thielen. Yeah!
Starting point is 01:18:35 What's up, dude? Sir, what's up? Hey, golf courses, did that play a role in this whole thing? Huh? Did it? Well, or the fact that there was a full- full swing golf simulator about 10 feet from my locker i could have made that could have made a difference what a play that is the facility is uh ridiculous down there a full swing is near your locker room what do we got going on in there that's what i said i said if they if they were trying to recruit me there was two things that they need to do if they could have done some dirt and one was have a golf simulator in the locker room uh number two was have a cold brew with a
Starting point is 01:19:09 little bit of oak milk at the front door when i walk in wow what a recruiting pitch this whole thing was uh adam can you turn your phone sideways right now oh yeah it's about it's ricocheting i do believe up into your speaker perfect um so they had a beer waiting for you when you got there a little cold cold brew coffee i'm sorry cold brew coffee they didn't they didn't but i'm saying if oh okay dude that would have been it all right close though still i mean golf simulator in the fucking locker room is bananas shout out to having the second wealthiest owner in all the sports. How did we get to the Carolina Panthers? Ian Rappaport said that he was hearing that there was potentially another team involved.
Starting point is 01:19:49 How involved was Frank and Josh McCown and Andy Dalton? And how involved was everybody in the whole recruiting process? And obviously, how excited are you to get down there? Yeah, kind of crazy. I mean, like you said before, I've never gone through this process before. So the whole process was nuts. I mean, I'm not a very patient person. So I had to pull out all the patience I possibly could have to just kind of let my agent do his job and then really just trust him, which he did, you know, between Blake Barrett's and Luke Invis. They absolutely killed it for me. Hell yeah, boys. An opportunity to just kind of be the guy I am. So, honestly, I wasn't really planning on going to the Panthers and went on a visit there just to hear them out because I wanted to go somewhere that I felt like I had an opportunity
Starting point is 01:20:36 to win a Super Bowl. And when I went there, I sat down with Coach, I sat down with the GM, I sat down with all the coaching staff, and I felt like Carolina was the place to do that. I feel like there is a real chance to win a Super Bowl, and that gets me so excited. I think the staff of how excited they were that I was there and what I could bring to that offense, to that team, to help them win football games was exciting. And then all the pieces they're adding. I mean, when they added Annie Dalton, that was a huge part to me going there,
Starting point is 01:21:09 just knowing that a veteran guy has put a lot of ball, can really groom and help lead a team and a young quarterback that will be coming in. And then Miles Sanders, Hayden Hurst, you know, these guys, I know they're talking to a couple other receivers that could really help. They already have them. So a defense that finished, I think, in the top ten last year, I'm excited. I couldn't be more excited.
Starting point is 01:21:36 You know, I didn't know it was going to happen this free agency. There was other teams that were kind of putting some pressure on, but I couldn't be more excited to be a Panther, and I truly mean that. Will you say who the other teams are or no? Well, I think there was, you know, there was the Broncos, Cowboys. You know, I had conversations with those teams and a few others. And, again, the Panthers just felt like the best fit, and it all kind of just worked out.
Starting point is 01:22:04 It all happened kind of quickly. I didn't know when it was going to happen, and it all kind of just worked out um it all happened kind of quickly i didn't know when it was going to happen and it just kind of all came at once but um again my family my wife is my kids uh we're so excited to to go there we're heading there tomorrow as a family to to go sign and and uh check out the city so we're excited charlotte is a beautiful place i believe you go uptown not downtown down there in there in the Queen City. I do believe. And also, home of NASCAR. Remember,
Starting point is 01:22:28 buy a NASCAR down there. The golf courses are majestic. There's a lake down there, too, that I think has glorious homes that this man can certainly
Starting point is 01:22:36 buy off this deal. Hey! Hey! Now, listen. They say go where you're celebrated, not where you're tolerated. And I'm not saying you've been tolerated or treated like you're tolerated anywhere. But it sounds like Carolina Panthers rolled out the red carpet for you.
Starting point is 01:22:51 A lot of people assumed you'd want to go to a place that you win. You addressed that in your last answer. But the contract had to be fucking good. Is this what you expected, what you thought? I think we're all incredibly happy for you, Mr. Thielen. Yeah, you know, a lot of people are going to say I went there for the money and all that, but honestly, at the end of the day, again, money was not a big deal. Of course, yeah, you want to get paid what you feel like you are worth, but at the end of the day,
Starting point is 01:23:17 you know, again, I wanted to go to a good situation for my family, for myself, and ultimately that I felt like a place seriously had a chance at winning a Super Bowl. And again, I really do feel strongly with that. But yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, to all the Vikings fans, right? Like I'm a Vikings fan. I was born and raised a Vikings fan. So of course I didn't want to leave Minnesota and I would have loved to finish my career there, but I am really excited about it. A fresh start, a new opportunity, and I can't wait to get there. It'll be great for all parties, man. It'll be great for everybody. I've been getting crushed on the internet and I think
Starting point is 01:23:54 time will obviously make it obviously and great for all parties. It'll be the same with you. Three years was long. Was that the goal whenever you got in there? Because obviously, you were 32 years old. You are in terrible shape. Yeah, brutal. You are in disgusting shape. You don't own a gym that has a few franchises. You eat terribly. Yeah, you eat terribly.
Starting point is 01:24:15 You don't even have your own protein bar for your body. You don't have that. You don't. Overeasy is incredible, by the way. So good. But you take care of your body, obviously, so much. Like, you are a stallion physically. 32, three-year deal, you'll be 35.
Starting point is 01:24:34 That'll be old as shit, right, for a wide receiver? Or is that just, you think, plan, goal, always going to be able to be that long? Well, that was a big factor in the decision as well. You know, going, I didn't want to be a in the decision as well you know going i didn't want to be a one year just um you know kind of gap filler just come in you know thanks for your service see you later i want to be part of something special i want to be part of building something um being a part of something to to bring a championship to a city and so i felt like you know with my agent and and our conversations that i wanted to go somewhere where I could be a part of it for a few years,
Starting point is 01:25:06 to be able to be part of a building process to win a championship. So that was a huge part. I mean, they were willing. That was their plan for me from day one when I stepped in that building. They said that that's what they want. They want me to be part of the long haul and be part of a run. So we're excited about that as well just not being a gap filler and just showing up for for six months and and and thank you here's your here's your check
Starting point is 01:25:30 and see you later so um that was huge and again thank you to them because they didn't have to do that you know a lot of teams were were saying you know i was too old and and uh they didn't want to mess with that and they didn't want to give me uh more than one year and and uh so that it's a it's a credit to to them doing their research watching my tape seeing who i am as a player and as a person and and then just giving me that opportunity you have undrafted across your chest right there oh yeah right had to like go prove i'm gonna pay to go prove myself right i'm gonna go pay to go prove myself undrafted thing with the gyms. Did you hear like the, uh,
Starting point is 01:26:05 Sam stacked up. Yeah. A lot of people did. You know, my age was a thing, you know, credit to the Panthers are watching the fucking film. You know,
Starting point is 01:26:12 like I just saw the, ha, you heard it. You got a lot of motivation right now. Huh? Highly motivated. Adam Thielen right now with the chirping that's going on. Well,
Starting point is 01:26:21 I would say this. I mean, uh, that's, that's been my whole life. So I, the chip is, has never fell off the shoulder. I mean, um's that's been my whole life so I the chip has never fell off the shoulder I mean um I feel like every step of my career high school college NFL um you know
Starting point is 01:26:32 people people have doubted me and uh that's what's what's got me to where I am um again like I told told these these teams when I was having conversation with them is I feel great I don't care the age yeah I get the whole age thing. It's tough for you to give a contract to your guy that's 32 years old as a receiver. But I feel fantastic. I came out of last year healthy, was able to start training right away. I'm coming away from my training sessions and I'm going to my wife like, man, I feel great. I'm so excited to get a new opportunity. And as stressful as it was, because, again, I'm not a very patient person, and just not knowing where I was going to go, you know,
Starting point is 01:27:09 playing 10 years in one spot and never leaving, it was a little stressful, but I couldn't be more excited. Dillon, you're a dog, dude. We all know it. I can't wait to watch what they have in store for you. Like, I can't wait, especially with the rookie quarterback. Did they tell you who they're drafting? They didn't. I was trying my hardest. I promise you. I can't wait. Especially with the rookie quarterback. Did they tell you who they're drafting? They didn't.
Starting point is 01:27:26 I was trying my hardest. I promise you I was trying my hardest to get that out of them. That was one piece of information they wouldn't give to me because they knew I would leak it to my guys. Yeah, well we appreciate the hell out of you for yesterday, dude. Thank you for that. Love you too. I do. I genuinely appreciate the hell out of you. You've been way
Starting point is 01:27:43 too kind to us, I think, over the years. And obviously you texting me and telling me. I do. I genuinely appreciate the hell. You've been way too kind to us, I think over the years. And obviously you texting me and telling me I waited five minutes. Cause I didn't want to, I didn't want to jump into the insider's world. I didn't want to do it. I didn't want to, I didn't like they, they literally don't have any lives or no human actions on their phone because that whole thing. So I gave five minutes. I don't know if you recognize that as it was happening, but five minutes, and then literally 7-13, 7-08 text, original text. I go, my man, what's up?
Starting point is 01:28:14 And then bang. Thank you so much, dude, for that. You are very, very kind. I needed some of that, too, on my timeline. My timeline was getting pretty negative. I was getting killed out there. I'm getting murdered out here. Connor has a question for you, though, Adam.
Starting point is 01:28:25 We appreciate the hell out of you, man. Yeah, Thielen, as a white wide receiver and a Patriots fan, I'm pretty devastated that you're not coming up to New England. I thought you had Bill Belichick written all over you. But was part of the reason you went to Carolina because you are a bona fide number one guy and with Justin Jefferson's emergencies past couple years, you've kind of taken a step back both like both because of how good he is. And also because of the fact that you understood that,
Starting point is 01:28:49 because we were talking earlier, like maybe in Minnesota, sure you had different numbers, but they're also drawing up a lot of plays for Justin Jefferson and not you. So was that part of the appeal with Carolina? Like, Hey, I'm ready to prove everybody that I am still that number one receiver. Hell yeah. That was, that was honestly, I can honestly say that had nothing to do with it. I've never been a guy that says I need to be a number one receiver.
Starting point is 01:29:14 I need this many targets or this many catches. But you kind of alluded to a little bit is I just want to be able to be a part of an offense. I want to be able to help an offense win games. I think in this league you can't just have a number one receiver. You have to have multiple guys from the running back position, tight end, receiver, and I think that's what Carolina's building. They're really putting together a complete offense of guys
Starting point is 01:29:38 that kind of can work together to help the team win. That's why this game is the greatest game there is because it takes a full team team win. And that's why this game is the greatest game there is because it takes a full team to win. You can't just have one guy or two guys in this league. You can't do it and win the big game. So that's what I'm excited about. I know they're going to make some more moves and they're going to draft some
Starting point is 01:29:56 guys and it's only going to help a rookie quarterback just be able to go out there and play free and let his playmakers play. Are you going to help recruit now? Are you part of the recruiting pitch? Absolutely, 100%. Oh, what are we doing? Are we texting? Are we sending gifts?
Starting point is 01:30:10 Are we sending golf clubs? Are we doing golf rounds? What are we doing? Are we sending the kids over to a babysitter? What are we doing? Over at Easy Bar? Well, you know, I've been sending some Instagram messages out to some guys. Oh!
Starting point is 01:30:22 Okay. You said people you know. They're doing a great job. Honestly, I haven't had to do much because, you know, just some of the pieces that they, Miles Sanders and Hayden Hurst, I mean, those guys, I mean, they're great players that have proven it. And they're just going to come in here and have an instant impact. Come in here already.
Starting point is 01:30:38 Hey, let's go. Hey, we love this. Family down there, huh? Feels like you guys are building a family down there. Is that what it feels like? Yes, sir. Frank Reich, dude, hey, Frankich won games here with the colts he did he was not in a great position with the colts ever as head coach i don't think but he made he made some of the decisions like he was put in an interesting spot i think with the colts but whenever he was he had
Starting point is 01:31:02 the team all in he was making aggressive calls. They were winning games. Like went to the playoffs, like speeches that he was giving were resonating with everybody. Like, I think Frank has the chance to be an incredible coach. The way it ended with the Colts. I think a lot of people view it as like, that's what Frank is. It's like he got Phil Rivers first year with the Indianapolis Colts to the
Starting point is 01:31:23 playoffs when Phil Rivers, no offense. I don't think Phil would take any. Phil Rivers could not run. No. This is his last year in the league. He actually could not move. Yeah, he literally could not move. But he could sling that thing. And Frank Wright kind of dialed up an offense that was incredible.
Starting point is 01:31:39 When he was at Philadelphia, they had success. So I hope that you guys get a version of Frank that is, like, heartened, experienced and like ready to go. We're winning it all. You said you want to win the championship down there. They want to do that right now too it sounds like. That's what it feels like
Starting point is 01:31:56 and that's what it felt like from the moment I got in that building. Jimmy Tepper? Jimmy Tepper the owner? I haven't met him yet but I'm excited to meet him. I think he's a let's win right now. I think, I think, but you can feel that in the building. Well, and, and to be honest, uh, I probably wasn't going to go on a visit there unless, unless it was, um, because of coach. That was the reason why I went there because I've had respect for him for a long time, just from afar,
Starting point is 01:32:19 you know, playing against him when he was the Eagles offense coordinator, seeing what he did there. And then with the Colts and the teams that he kind of put together there. His ability to spread the ball around and get a lot of guys involved and to move the ball, you know, do some of the RPO stuff. I'm a big fan, so that's why I went there. And then when I left the building, it was hard for me not to be excited just because, again, they're ready to win, and they want to win, and they have a plan.
Starting point is 01:32:44 That was the biggest thing going there is like, what's your plan? And it was very clear that they have a plan to win and win now and win the big prize. You know, it's not just get through a couple years and see how the rookie does. No, it's their plan to win. Hey, you walk in that locker room, you're doing a full tour. You go to the cafeteria first.
Starting point is 01:33:04 Where did you start at, weight room? We started, um, we started in the weight room. Okay. Then we had to tell, you know, dude, when I first, Hey, when I first went into the Colts weight room, that's the tour they gave us when I first got there, Robert Mathis was shirtless, jumping rope in the corner off to the right, and, like, didn't skip a beat. And it was, like, the fastest of all time. I was walking around with the other rookies, and I was like, I'm going to have to grow up quick. Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:33:35 That guy, holy fuck. That guy is a teammate now. Okay, that guy's on my team. That's great. That is great news. Always normally start at the weight room, right? And don't you think that it's kind of normally the starting place for everybody in the tours? That guy's on my team. That's great. That is great news. Always normally start at the weight room, right? Don't you think that it's kind of normally the starting place for everybody in the tours?
Starting point is 01:33:54 That just made me think of, yeah, I'm sure that is the common courtesy is to start at the weight room. But my first encounter with the Vikings organization after I signed after the rookie camp was I go in the hot tub after I signed, and Phil Lohhold is sitting in the hot tub after I sign, and Phil Lohold is sitting in the hot tub. And I don't know if you guys know who Phil Lohold is, but he was a left tackle. That was the most massive human being that I've ever seen in my entire life. And I kind of got in the hot tub like, oh, so this is the NFL, huh? All right, well, I don't know if I belong. He's 9'9", 360 pounds. So this is a little different.
Starting point is 01:34:27 That's a real deal, though. Whenever you start, oh, shit, I'm in a whole new place. That's going to happen with you at Carolina. So you take a tour. You go weight room. Then they go to cafeteria and talk about how good the food is. Or do they go right to the locker room? And then they say, here's the simulator we have.
Starting point is 01:34:42 By the way, Mr. Zeland. Yes, they did go. went we went uh weight room equipment room talked to equipment guy he was trying to he was trying to put the jersey on me the second i walked in there so he was ready for me to sign that day uh which was exciting and then uh through the locker room and then the uh the simulator obviously how'd they say they said in here is a golf simulator is there also a cornhole in there? Or is the golf sim the... There was two ping pong tables,
Starting point is 01:35:09 which I'm a huge fan of ping pong. Me as well. So two ping pong tables and a golf simulator in there? Yes. Wow. Pretty sweet. How nice is this facility? Because they're about to build a new one, right?
Starting point is 01:35:19 Yeah. Is it nice? Is it a nice place? Has to be. I mean, yeah, it's not like, it's not going to rock your socks off. I mean, coming from the Vikings facility, it's pretty tough to beat that. But it's kind of cool.
Starting point is 01:35:30 It's in the stadium. So you're not having two different places. You're right in the stadium. Ah, so that's why there's so much space to have a golf simulator and two fucking ping pong tables in the locker room. That's a lot of space, I think. Okay, so that's how they laid it out what did they say about the sim ever here sir or did they know it was going to be a home run
Starting point is 01:35:50 with you or no i don't i don't think they knew uh because they kind of like they kind of downplayed like oh yeah here's a simulator and i was kind of like asking questions i wasn't asking questions about you know the weight room and all that i was asking hey so uh what kind of simulator is this can i bring my clubs in yeah are there rules what are the rules are you just allowed at the driving range because that never glitches uh how how many hours are you allowed to hit into this thing do i have to schedule my time are we only doing irons am i just bringing my irons what are the that a lot of rules. I mean, that's a loud thing as well. And pretty, yeah. Yeah, you'll take care of it.
Starting point is 01:36:29 I kind of have it planned out, I think, because I'm a morning person. What I'm thinking is I'll get to the facility extremely early because when the kids are sleeping anyways, you know, I'll get about 45 minutes of swings in and then start my recovery recovery uh morning slash film study um so i kind of got a built-in 40 45 minute buffer that i'll just get up 45 minutes early to get my swings in dude you're gonna be so good yeah i had that with a cornhole dude i talked about this last week i had three hours in the middle of the day while you guys are trying to learn shit
Starting point is 01:37:02 where like i you know literally didn't have anything. So I just played cornhole. Literally for three hours a day. Matt Overton and I played against each other. And if he was either getting treatment or doing something else, I would just throw fucking bags all by myself. I became like a perfect, I was training three hours a day. I mean, that's a lot of time. You're going to get 40 minutes of hacks in as a warm-up?
Starting point is 01:37:24 Oh my gosh. You're going to be a pro gol hacks in as a warm-up? Oh, my gosh. Thielen, you're going to be a pro golfer soon. This is going to happen. Let's do it. Like you said, there's great golf courses around there. So in the off-season, OTAs, I might have to check it out. Good for you. Tony Diggs has a question for you, Mr. Thielen.
Starting point is 01:37:39 This guy's going to be fucking scratched. Are you already? What is your handicap? Well, I was a zero, and then I took six months off for the season, and I've been struggling a little bit. I'm a 1.2, I think. Oh, this guy sucks, dude. Holy
Starting point is 01:37:54 shit, you're terrible at golf. Turn us a question for you. Adam, have you spoke to Mr. Dalton yet, and are you going in there with the thought that he's going to be your potential starter, or are you thinking that the number one overall pick's going to be your starter? Have you thought about that yet? Well, I'll say this.
Starting point is 01:38:10 I have talked to him. We've known each other for a while. And my wife and his wife have known each other for a few years, doing some of the Christian conferences together and stuff, and great family. They also have three kids just like us. So in a very similar situation. So it's great for my wife as well to have that relationship already um but i i don't know what that'll look like but i will say this that that i it was a huge part of the decision that andy was there um just because i i don't know you know you never know what will happen
Starting point is 01:38:40 uh with a first overall draft pick it could be lights out and the best pick of all time, but you just never know. So just to have that security blanket, knowing that Andy is a dang good security blanket. He's played a lot of football in this league at a high level, you know, been to the playoffs, you know, a few times. So it definitely made that decision way easier
Starting point is 01:39:00 to make. All right. Well, sir, we are incredibly happy for you. We're pumped for for you what does the rest of the day look like i know you have we saw on your instagram stories we were reminded three children they seem to be active they're all sitting on the back of what a golf cart of course i don't know if you saw that the guy's handicapped right now trash what a bum trash dude one point what you say 1.2 yeah 1.2? Yeah, 1.2. It's rough.
Starting point is 01:39:26 Gross. So you're getting no strokes ever against anybody. No. No, it's brutal. And the problem is my guys that I kind of play with out here in Florida quite a bit, they don't take into account that I just had six months off. So I kind of come back here and I just get murdered for like a month. And they love it, of course.
Starting point is 01:39:48 But now I'm starting to hold my own a little bit. So we'll try to get that back. So what happened? You played in high school? You played in high school? I did, yeah. My high school golf team was full of football players. So we always said if we can't win the tournament,
Starting point is 01:40:03 we could definitely win in a fight. Smart. Just in case anybody starts popping off. You gotta, you gotta have that. You gotta, you gotta have that. You know why what is happening
Starting point is 01:40:13 is happening, right? Like when you're golfing, you have the high school experience. What's the change? So like I'll hit something, I'll spray it way right. And I'm like,
Starting point is 01:40:23 all right, aiming left today. You know, that's what it way right. And I'm like, all right, aiming left today. You know, that's what I think. Yes. You are like, well, must've came up over the top, must've had a little different grip or something like that. What a weapon. Watching you golf was a joy.
Starting point is 01:40:37 Just want to let you know that. Just a fucking, you were so good at golf. That three wood story that we talk about, 326 or whatever, over the green is so real because there's people that hit massive balls, massive golf balls. A.J. Hawk hits the ball so far, so high. 380. Every time or whatever.
Starting point is 01:40:56 A three-wood like 340 over a green in a celebrity golf tournament is hilarious. Just to think of. Are you going to be a professional, you think, someday? It's very hard, right? Isn't it't it like incredibly difficult to do yeah i mean it's it's the chances are extremely slim those guys are just i mean uh there's a few guys actually out here at the course that i'm at in florida that um are trying to make it you know they're on like the mini tours and stuff and you you go and play with them you're like how is this guy not on the pj tour he's having seven eight birdies on a course that is an absolute grind.
Starting point is 01:41:27 And hits it a mile. They hit it a mile. They make every putt. If they do miss a putt, it's because they misread it a little bit. They hit it on line every time. Their speed's perfect. It's just crazy that they're not on the tour, right? So I say that to say it's pretty difficult.
Starting point is 01:41:42 But at the end of the day, I'm going to try to do like the Monday qualifier thing as many as I possibly can and just see what happens, you know. Hey, why not? Kids are in school. I'm going to practice a little bit. We'll see what happens. All right. I love it.
Starting point is 01:41:55 We appreciate you. Enjoy your downtime. Congratulations on another deal. Congratulations on three years in Carolina. And congratulations on what it sounds like is immediate success. Yeah. You've bought in. They're ready to go. The owner seems
Starting point is 01:42:07 antsy to get a winner soon. Oh, you can't win? Get out. You can't win? Get out. You can't win? Get out. That's what he's been. Now that Thielen's joined the operation, and Josh McCann, and Frank Reich, and Andy Dalton, are they having like a...
Starting point is 01:42:23 This is what we need to do. This is how we need to do it. I'm excited to watch how it goes. We appreciate the hell out of you, ladies and gentlemen. All pro, Adam Thielen. Thank you, Adam. Incredible basketball and golf
Starting point is 01:42:40 and obviously the NFL world was alive and well this weekend with trades and deals that took place. Most notably, we chatted with Adam Thielen about an hour ago about why he picked the Carolina Panthers. He said he believes they can win a championship there. A lot of people on the internet are saying
Starting point is 01:42:56 oh what? You start listening to him talk about it though. He's a firm believer. He got a great deal and I believe he believes that Frank Reich will be able to figure it out alongside Fitterer and Tepper, who's the second wealthiest owner in the entire NFL. We are incredibly happy for Adam Thielen and Laramie Tunzel, who signed a three-year, $75 million, with $50 million in guarantees deal over the weekend,
Starting point is 01:43:17 alongside the counsel of St. Omni. St. Omni, not a certified agent with the NFLPA, although he's been a part of a couple hundred million dollars worth of negotiations. Maybe the NFLPA could say, hey, maybe this guy is allowed to be an agent even though he doesn't necessarily pass our certification process. None of us understand who or what St. Omni is,
Starting point is 01:43:37 but we do know that he was a part of Laramie Tunzel, who represented himself and got $60 million in total guarantees, which I believe is injury guarantees, $50 million fully guaranteed, which is coming at signing. So, or guaranteed at signing. They've been reworking the wording of these things. Yeah, this whole offseason. Yeah, it's like, you know, points of emphasis have now become points of clarification.
Starting point is 01:44:03 Bingo. Because words matter because words are spelled that's right because words cast spells hey we learned that didn't we yeah that was on Aaron Rodgers Tuesday right deep spells like tv channels so the way you word things in a way you say things matters because it creates the narrative immediately upon hearing it. So points of emphasis, whenever they're over calling something that we all hate, the NFL has made their own situation where people are saying,
Starting point is 01:44:34 look at you guys caring about the wrong shit. So now it's points of clarification. So like, Hey, this rough in the passer, this holding call, this pass interference. We just want to clarify what the rule actually is this week,
Starting point is 01:44:44 as opposed to any other week. It's like, okay, good wording. Now instead of like if he breaks his leg and isn't able to walk ever again and his injury guarantee is $60 million, which is what it kind of used to be, now it's $50 million fully guaranteed, $60 million possibly guaranteed, guaranteed, guaranteed. Like that's all they're wording it now. Has that happened just this year, Toxic Table,
Starting point is 01:45:06 or just this past offseason here? At Boston Conner, at Ty Schmidt, one half of the hammer, bad Cowboys. I saw you thinking over there, Tony. It feels like this is very recent, isn't it? It feels like it, but, I mean, I was thinking in my head, like, why are you trying to remember because you can't fucking remember anything, so just don't and just continue. Let them continue on with the conversation.
Starting point is 01:45:24 I kind of watched that happen. I think I was kind of watching you over there because you looked very like thinking man pose. And then you did have a blank look on your face. And then I sent it over. So what you just described, I actually saw in real time. I apologize for asking you immediately. Excited to hear if you pick up a thought or an opinion as we go on this whole thing. Feels new.
Starting point is 01:45:44 Makes sense. But also, we got to take it all with a grain of salt as we go on this whole thing. Feels new. Makes sense. Yeah. But also, we got to take it all with a grain of salt as we're hearing these numbers. Yeah, and it went back to last year kind of with the Rogers thing that we kind of turned a little bit going into free agency after his contract was announced. Oh, yeah. Because even some stuff from way before was corrected after that. Remember the Mahomes deal?
Starting point is 01:46:02 We found out the Mahomes deal was 10 years $440 million I feel like months ago because I just assumed it was... $430 or $440? It was in that range, but I assumed it was 10 years $500, but that was just the number that was put out there where realistically it was... Yeah, $60 million or $70 million is vastly different.
Starting point is 01:46:19 That's a different amount of money. And even the Lamar thing. But now it matters so much because everybody seemingly is competing, both the agencies and the teams, on what it's going to be. And there's such an emphasis on the salary cap these days because it's what's making and breaking teams. It's the recipe teams are taking. You can either pay a lot of money to an older quarterback
Starting point is 01:46:39 or you're on a rookie contract. You can pay everybody else, and the numbers matter a lot more because how many of the big numbers can you fit on your team, and how can you work it and kick the can down the road without being completely fucked in the end, like the Los Angeles Rams have become. Nonetheless, Laramie Tunzel, however you take it, with the old wording or the
Starting point is 01:46:56 modern wording, he negotiated a hell of a deal. We are very happy for him. Remember draft night? People were trying to sabotage him. That's right. I thought he was going to be screwed. His stepdad. Yeah, his own. Has that been confirmed?
Starting point is 01:47:08 I wanted to say it, but I'm already in one lawsuit. I believe it was. We'll say it later. Could be a St. Omni situation. Does he have a stepdad? Are we sure? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I don't know if I looked into it enough.
Starting point is 01:47:17 All I know is somebody tried to get this guy. And as soon as I've seen him do what he did with that, he took a gas mask. Okay, normally steamroller on a gas mask. For those that don't know, there's many different ways to smoke. Tobacco, CBD, marijuana. Gas mask is obviously one of the most aggressive forms. obviously one of the most aggressive forms. Okay. It is a full immersion of marijuana,
Starting point is 01:47:54 tobacco, or CBD gas. Sure. Right there in there. No breathing, anything else. You are forced to hit it. That'll normally you do with a steamroller, which has the end of it open. Okay. The end of it open. So you can smoke a steamroller all by itself. It's basically just one of the most basic forms of pipes. You have a little bit of a male part enter into a steamroller all by itself. It's basically just one of the most basic forms of pipes. You have a little bit of a male part enter into a pipe that is like this. Put the weed up top, obviously a little filter. You light there, you cover, pull, open, kind of clear. Same thing you do with a bong, same thing you do with a bowl. It just has a fully open end piece there that if you move your hand, wide open. It just has a fully open end piece there that if you move your hand, wide open. So normally a gas mask has that because at least there's a chance for the end of it to breathe.
Starting point is 01:48:30 Yeah. What he hit was like this. That's a bong at the end of that. There is really, except for the tiny little hole where the mail piece is going into the bottom there, which would normally have water in the bottom of that. There's really no air getting into that thing other than just straight. It's not cut up at all with actual air. It's not mixed with actual air.
Starting point is 01:48:52 It is pretty much just straight smoke. Yeah. He didn't cough one time. Nope. He didn't flinch. He laughed. Yeah. This guy's lungs are the greatest lungs
Starting point is 01:49:04 in the history of lungs my immediate thought as soon as I saw the video I go holy fuck that dude's doing that with a bong in the end holy shit that dude just ate that thing and I thought to myself have I ever seen that before no I've seen a lot of great football players
Starting point is 01:49:19 take it and then get beat by that gas mask I just watched Laramie Tunzel fucking eat it, laugh, keep it moving. So I saw it as an advantage for Laramie Tunzel. The NFL did not see it that way. A lot of people in the NFL. He falls in the draft. Kind of has a stigma around him as if it's a bad thing
Starting point is 01:49:36 because he obviously smokes marijuana. A lot of marijuana. He was in college. Fucking sue him. You know, pretty much how people were treating him. And he's just gone on to be a fucking dog, dude. First with Dolphins, then obviously he gets traded over to the Texans. Dog.
Starting point is 01:49:50 Absolute dog. Gets paid again. Negotiates his own deal. I'm fucking happy for him. He wasn't supposed to be like this. They were trying to kill him. Night one. Literally night one, they were trying to kill him. And good for the Texans too, because if you are going to draft quarterback number two overall, or wherever they end up doing it, it'd be nice to have one of the best tackles
Starting point is 01:50:06 in the league protecting and have him not have to worry about his blindside. And St. Omni, thanks for the shout out. Guys, whoever you are, he's omnipresent. How about Ian Rappaport acting like a weirdo earlier? He was acting like a weirdo. Very weird. Why was he doing that, you think? Not a good card player.
Starting point is 01:50:22 So he is a weirdo. I think he was just potentially scared of the... I don't know how many people have a St. Omni plug. Like, I think he's one of the only connects, right? Sounds like it. Nobody else is really getting St. Omni tech, so I think Ian's like, I'm not fucking this one up.
Starting point is 01:50:36 He's one of the best. St. Omni? Whoever he is. I think St. Omni might just be Laramie Tunsil. Because if you mix up the letters in Laramie Tunsil, you can spell St. Omni might just be Laramie Tunsil Because if you mix up the letters in Laramie Tunsil You can spell St. Omni Can't spell St. Omni without Laramie Tunsil
Starting point is 01:50:51 But what about Roquan? There's a lot of Roquan news in St. Omni Did Laramie do Roquan's deal? Roquan Smith You can spell it with that too if you include his middle name What if St. Omni Exactly St. and Omni Roquan, Omni St. Omni? Exactly. That's true. Which is what? St. and Omni.
Starting point is 01:51:05 Rogue One, Omni St. Omni St. Boom. That's his actual. Can't spell his full name. Nope. Mm-mm. What if it's a fake person now that they're just negotiating with?
Starting point is 01:51:18 St. Omni says. I think there's a chance. It's very possible. It's not a bad play. No. It's a great negotiation play. Gumpy thinks he found a photo. We are not going to post it.
Starting point is 01:51:27 Gumpy, I had to watch because I thought I saw Zito going. I'll pull it up out of the group text. Gumpy thought he found a photo of St. Omni. I've seen St. Omni, I think. What we think is St. Omni. Gumpy's one of the greatest internet fishermen in the history of internet. Ever. Ever.
Starting point is 01:51:44 Literally ever. One of the greatest internet fishermen which is a talent a skill yes a weapon that people do not recognize it is going to be a part of every business going forward though pretty much if you're a good internet fisher if you can go find things on the internet you are going to have a successful career for the next probably 60 years if you can get good at that gumpy is remarkable and has an incredible talent what is his middle name rokon's middle name is davon oh yes boom does work d-e-v-a works d-a forget it it's d-a-e-v-o-n i believe zito is reading it off the internet
Starting point is 01:52:22 right there to your point though you can can ask Gumpy. You can give him three words to describe a video, and he'll have it for you. I said, Gumpy, I saw this one guy. He said something. If we could find that, I think it would be good for the overall thing. You got it, Paul. Right away, Paul.
Starting point is 01:52:38 And you hear him. Thought you'd have a challenge for me, Paul. That's Ace Ventura, Pet Detective. Boom. I thought he was going to have a hard one for me. Is that the red or the white? Okay. That's like Gumpy on the internet.
Starting point is 01:52:53 Just in a much cooler fashion with a better beard than that guy. He always finds his catch. He really does, doesn't he? Oh, yeah. And if he doesn't, it'll keep him up for days. He gets very pissed off about it. And then later, once he finds something, if there's a time for it to come back up,
Starting point is 01:53:10 it's coming. Hey, just a reminder, fucking found it. Just so everybody knows. I think Gumby's batting 1,000. I've honestly never seen him miss. I said, Gumby, didn't I say? Gumby, I had to have said that. I already found it.
Starting point is 01:53:24 Oh, I remember. Tuesday? Was it Wednesday? I knew I had to have said that. I already found it. Oh, I remember. Well, Tuesday? I know I had this fucking video. You didn't say it just like that. You said this, though, Paul. Pretty close, though. That's it, Gumpy. People are saying
Starting point is 01:53:40 that Gumpy is artificial intelligence. That's why he hasn't been around. It would make sense if he was Chat Gumpy. Chat G-u-m-p-y yeah he's remarkable yeah it's next level that's why trying to explain to these immigration people about why nobody else could have because one of the things is like is he taking a job from an american it It's like, how do I explain this? Yes. No, he is not taking a job from anybody. But also, he is like a one-of-one talent. I've not met a talent that is like, but you government do not have any appreciation
Starting point is 01:54:16 for what this man's skill is for our business. It is a tough, it's been a tough go trying to explain that whole thing. So he may be taking a job from AI, which in the end is good for humanity. Hell yeah. He is one of the last remaining robots we have. Yes. That's right.
Starting point is 01:54:32 Shout out to Robot Gump. Yeah, him and the arrow. Him and the arrow. Tom Pellicerro, Tony in Rapport. Pat had that eight minutes ago, bro. Yeah, except the arrow can never find a video like Gump. He can find a fucking bylaw, though. He can certainly find a... He can only see in zeros
Starting point is 01:54:48 and ones. Yeah, but now that we're saying this, Gump is going to have this locked down now. I'm going to fucking read these memos now, pal. Pal! The NFL sends out a memo every night. That's kind of like Pellicero's thing. Pellicero has the ability to read an NFL memo quicker than everybody else,
Starting point is 01:55:04 digest it better than everybody else, and explain it to humans as if they're in fifth grade better than everybody else, quicker than everybody else. That's Pelissero's talent. It is an actual talent. Oh, yeah. Not a lot of people have it. Not a job that I could do or many other people could do.
Starting point is 01:55:17 Insanely high reading comprehension. He's got to be doing, right, speed reading thing? Yeah, probably. But also, like you said's it's one thing to just like find what people like the piece that needs to be pulled out but then to actually have read it quick enough and understand what it is saying and then to be able to translate it into layman words so that the masses can actually understand it like that's a talent that is a true talent that's a that's a talent in in the world that he is in for sure that not a lot of people have just like the gumpy talent of being able to find you like that's a talent in the world that he is in. For sure. That not a lot of people have.
Starting point is 01:55:45 Just like the Gumby talent of being able to find shit. That's a talent that Gumby has. How do you explain it? He finds shit better than everybody else, quicker than everybody else. Okay, that sounds like a real talent. No, real talent. You have no idea. Yeah, you have no idea.
Starting point is 01:55:58 That's like Pellicero's weapon. That's why we couldn't really talk to Pellicero anymore. Because every time we talked to him, it felt like we were talking to a memo. Yeah, the encyclopedia. It was like, this guy is clearly on the side of the memo every single time because he's read the entire thing. And so we need a little dancing, Pelissero. We need a little.
Starting point is 01:56:16 Don't you think that's stupid, Pelissero? Come on, Tom. Of course not. Oh, no, because in Article 27A, they explain that they're also doing bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. It's like, okay, great point, but that doesn't, okay. Tom, are you sensitive?
Starting point is 01:56:31 He was in a band, bro. He was? He's a rock star, dude. He is? That video. Tommy and the Heartbreakers. It's amazing how, what was that? Tommy and the Heartbreakers.
Starting point is 01:56:39 Tommy P and the Heartbreakers? Tommy P and the Heartbreakers? He's a dog, bro. He is? So him, Rap, and Garofalo are a team. Rap depends upon Pelissero to get the memos. And then Garofalo and Ian are hitting the streets as hard as they possibly can all the time. Yeah, they're the people people.
Starting point is 01:56:57 Ian's got the contacts. I've been boozing with Bulldogs, sleeping on job as the Thielen news break. Can't have that. No sale out of the Commander's organization, though. We thought there was potentially going to be a Dan Snyder sale this past weekend with how quickly everything seemed to be escalating over in Washington at the Commander's facility. Allegedly, the Snyders had moved everything out of their offices and everything that is theirs out of the building
Starting point is 01:57:21 for the Commanders to potentially open up for a quick sale of them josh harris who i believe is of the 76ers yep was alongside mitchell sayers mitchell something some other folks with money they were the last people that were being closely affiliated with buying the commanders and becoming a new ownership group we have to remember that with every new owner that comes into the nfl we assume they're either going to be the richest owner in the NFL or top three richest owner in the NFL. The Commander structured contracts this offseason by delaying signing bonus payouts until May.
Starting point is 01:57:56 Typically, players get paid within a month. That could mean the sale of the team is close and the bonus payouts become the responsibility of the next owner. That story is coming from ben standig via ari mirov who is also an aggregator of information on the internet and has an incredible talent formerly in the real estate world right found out that he understands the internet real estate quicker and better than everybody else that would be a dan snyder move until the very end yep if he said yeah bonus is coming in may all right we gotta sell the same by april let's get
Starting point is 01:58:24 the fuck out of here. That would be a Dan Snyder move through and through all the way to the very end. Seems like they're on the move. Very wealthy owner coming in. Let's assume they're going to spend. Are they going to get a new name? I wonder. I wonder all that, too.
Starting point is 01:58:36 But it's surprising how quiet it is. Like, there's some of these things leaking out. But you would think by now, unless that all of the 32 owners meeting is very, very, very, very quiet, but you would think that something would leak out by now like, hey, it's definitely happening sometime in the next couple weeks. Seems like it is. There's too many moving parts. Right? This is the most we've
Starting point is 01:58:56 seen. Move the shit out of the office. The bonuses would be a very Dan Snyder play. That'd be a very Dan Snyder move. Draft is coming up every time. They haven't built a new stadium. The new owners stuck with a new stadium. Have to pay for that.
Starting point is 01:59:12 Have to pay all the bonuses. I'm surprised they didn't just give Lamar Jackson $240 million guaranteed. Money due years two and three. That would be the bigger, I guess, indicator that a sale is imminent. But we've been on the precipice of a sale for the Commanders for, what, two years now, it feels like.
Starting point is 01:59:29 Well, and you wonder if, you know, like obviously the NFL is a business that everyone's trying to get into and it's a cash cow and it's going to continue to make money. But you do wonder if like just like the massive undertaking that it will be, whoever the next people who own this, because like you said, you know, it's build a new stadium i think you're right i mean i think you have to change the name you have to do all do you i wonder that's a big deal you got to get i think you have to get rid of all the stink associated with it from the you got to move it out of that stadium exactly out of that area right didn't they say they'd have to move the virginia yeah exactly it's a massive undertaking to do all this and granted like you know you're, you're going to reap the rewards
Starting point is 02:00:06 of it down the road, but you're going to have to put so much time and energy into this whole deal that you wonder if some people are like, I just don't know if I'm ready to commit to that right now. Immediate baby face. Whoever comes in. Yeah, you follow Dan's
Starting point is 02:00:21 name. Immediate, hey, I'm your savior. Not a bad spot. No. bad spot from that perspective, but it's a massive investment. Yeah, that doesn't erase all the work that you're going to have to do either. When you're talking about the stadium being built, that's a couple years. For sure. So whoever buys it's going to have to sit through some stuff for a bit and rebuild front office, rebuild front business, rebuild everything pretty much. What will that team look like
Starting point is 02:00:48 two years from now? Will the name be? Will they have a new stadium, new facility? There's a so... If you're a Commanders fan, you've obviously been punished a lot. For sure.
Starting point is 02:00:58 Like you've been punished a lot. I think the next couple years potentially... Exciting. Little bit of hope. I think if the sale happens potentially exciting little bit of hope I think if the sale happens but what if he's just what if this is all work
Starting point is 02:01:09 what if it's all just a fucking work by Dan Snyder which would be a Dan Snyder move remember he took his yacht to Napoleon's Island whenever they were trying to subpoena him to testify in front of the House Committee for Congress about his workplace practices. He said,
Starting point is 02:01:28 what? I don't see it. Nope. Taped his pocket shut. Yep. Put duct tape around his hands, allegedly and walked right up to the person trying to serve him papers and said,
Starting point is 02:01:39 well, I don't see it. I don't see it. I can't see it. They even put like tape on the back of it so they could say that they delivered to him. He wore nonstick clothes. Yeah. So for like three months, two months, just did his own thing.
Starting point is 02:01:51 Whole summer. Dan Snyder lives by his own set of rules. Does whatever the fuck he wants. And has always felt that way, allegedly. Yeah. Until they do sell the team, I think whenever the team does officially get sold, that's when, as a fan, it's like, okay, we can kind of see the light at the end of the tunnel now.
Starting point is 02:02:07 Who knows what's going to happen? It's obviously probably going to be a while before they're any good. If it's an owner who comes in who's willing to spend a shitload of money, you could theoretically change things pretty fucking quick. Allegedly, Bezos was getting in there with McConaughey and Jay-Z. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And then Bezos wasn't in. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:28 That probably would have been the ticket. That's a lot of money coming in. Yeah. I don't know if the other owners are necessarily pumped for that because what Haslam did with Deshaun Watson, you would assume Bezos would do. I saw somebody tweeting about the money in escrow. I think Josh Lane was the guy's Twitter name. We'd have to look it up. Josh Lane, I think was his name.
Starting point is 02:02:45 John Lane. Oh, I saw the tweet in scrolling NBC, Washington guy. He was talking about when the money would need to be due for escrow and how much money would have to be. If the Ravens were going to give Lamar Jackson, a $231 million guarantee since Since the league year already started,
Starting point is 02:03:05 I think the money wouldn't be due until the next league year, allegedly, from this guy's tweet. I forget his name. Golly. He was talking about this money isn't due until next March 15th or whatever the next league year is. Any amount of money that would be due would be a certain percentage of it because if you were to sign a deal to one of these players,
Starting point is 02:03:23 which is why we think new ownership with new money, a lot of money, would be a weapon for the team immediately because they're able to put the money into escrow that is a guaranteed cash for a contract. For instance, what Haslam was able to do with Deshaun Watson, when he gave him $230 million guaranteed, he had to have that money physically on hand, fluid, liquid, and put it into escrow holding so that it never disappears or goes anywhere if he was to make any poor investments or banks were just to disappear.
Starting point is 02:03:51 Right. Which is happening. Whoa. What do you mean? We don't know. It is. Apparently, allegedly, that is taking place. But that is something that keeps some owners shied away from doing the massive guaranteed
Starting point is 02:04:05 deal. That's always been an excuse that they've used because not only do you have to put the guarantee for that particular player that is 200 and some million, but every other player on the team to this guarantee, you have to have all that money kind of sitting somewhere so that the player can get paid out guaranteed and they can't invest that, use that, let that sit, have that money, make more money. And some people I don't think have that money liquid to be able to do whatever the fuck they want to do. Tony, what did you find? The bill for the escrow payment wouldn't become due until March 31st, 2024, if they went and got Lamar right now.
Starting point is 02:04:38 Is that from a tweet? This is from an article from Pro Football Talk. It's the only thing that I could find. Okay, so a tweet might have came from that on the internet apparently his name is not josh lane if you search that so i'm gonna be way off and i apologize to whoever put that tweet into my world and i'm not giving you proper credit but it was a scroll there so i think that does help potentially with the whole guaranteed money to lamar maybe getting that deal done somewhere here hopefully in before july 18th or whatever.
Starting point is 02:05:06 Yeah, so for the Watson contract, just because that's a similar situation, does that mean the money was put into escrow by like these weeks here and then you only have to pay the 45 in signing bonus right away? Yeah, I think so. So it's kind of a way to delay money. Very doable. Yes, I think so. For somebody, especially new money coming into the league,
Starting point is 02:05:24 I think a Lamar Jackson deal is going to happen. Especially with the home game revenues that we saw. There's people saying there isn't going to be a deal done, though. I guess we'll see what this interview is all about. Yeah, we'll go to Lamar Jackson Entertainment, I-775,
Starting point is 02:05:40 his new YouTube channel. He'll be dropping an interview this week where it appears as if he'll be talking about everything going on. He was talking about coming into the West Coast offense, into the NFL and the West Coast offense, and this particular clip that was previewing kind of what he's going to drop this week at some point at Lamar Jackson Entertainment I-775.
Starting point is 02:06:01 New YouTube page. I apologize. I assume it's going to crush, just like anybody else that has a YouTube page that they invest in. I assume this is going to do very, very well. I think it's going to be like a tell-all situation, though. And hopefully that'll be something that'll inspire some teams to be more interested in Lamar, or at least give us all a little bit more explanation of what the fuck's going on,
Starting point is 02:06:21 potentially, behind the scenes. I think a deal's going to get done, personally. I think there's going to be an owner that is desperate somewhere that is going to say i don't have to put this money up until next year and i get lamar jackson an immediate head turner and ticket seller i'm going to do it even though right now it sounds like nobody's going to well with the timeline being kind of dragged out a little bit and having more time to do it like i guess we could you know we'll see what teams get desperate after the draft like if things don't fall their way and it's like okay we kind of I guess we could. We'll see what teams get desperate after the draft if things don't fall their way.
Starting point is 02:06:45 We kind of tried everything we could. The Colts, potentially. We tried everything we could. Things didn't roll our way. We got to go get Lamar now. They're doing this so that someone else can do the deal and then the Ravens are going to pay. I know. That's what I'm thinking as well. I think every team is scared to death to do all the work
Starting point is 02:07:02 to do the negotiation and then the Ravens be able to match it. But if Lamar signs his tender, it's just a trade. Yeah. They can't just automatically match it, you know? Yeah, because then it becomes like Lombardi said, what, they can give him a one and a three? Yeah, they can kind of negotiate that whole thing.
Starting point is 02:07:17 Don't you still think there's a number, though, that like some team, like they know like, hey, we're probably going to have to pay a little bit more, but I would assume these teams are operating under the assumption like, hey, there's a number that the Ravens are not going to match. We'll continue to talk about it, especially until the video drops at Lamar Jackson Entertainment, I-775 YouTube. Another number that was chatted about this weekend by the man himself, Odell Beckham Jr. Who the fuck said I'm looking for $20 million a year? What is this all about? I just said I ain't taking four.
Starting point is 02:07:45 I was almost the MVP of the Super Bowl the last time I played football. Obviously, everybody's seen what I was able to do as soon as I got to the Rams. You can judge me for how the Cleveland Browns situation went and how the ending at the Browns went. But when I got to the Rams, I scored a touchdown every single week. I was a dog. I've rehabbed completely. I am healthy.
Starting point is 02:08:01 We saw Prince of Macamorra put the video out. He looks good. Sounds good. There was a lot of teams interested of Macamorra put the video out. He looks good. Sounds good. There was a lot of teams interested. He's still a free agent, though. So the $20 million a year guarantee was potentially something that was maybe drawn some teams off the OVJ scent, maybe. Then he came out, tweeted, who said that?
Starting point is 02:08:19 I think that's good news. I appreciate the fact that Odell is speaking about his situation currently, and I hope he ends up with a great team. He's tweeted Saquon Barkley. Obviously, he knows Von Miller very well. He was in Dallas whenever he was doing his recruiting pitch, and Jerry Jones was recruiting him. Jerry Jones is the one that told us he wasn't healthy, actually.
Starting point is 02:08:37 Jerry Jones said he ain't going to be back for four or five weeks, and then we're deep into the playoffs. I don't know if now is the time. We learned that. We didn't know that. We thought he was all the way healthy. They trade for Brandon Cooks from Houston. They were in conversations with Adam Thielen.
Starting point is 02:08:51 Are they still thinking about bringing in Odell Beckham Jr.? We do not know. But the Odell Beckham Jr. free agency continues, and I think a lot of us are very confused by it all. Yeah, and it still feels like, to me, Buffalo is the main place that he'll go. Did Stephon Diggs unfollow the Buffalo Bills on his Instagram? There's been a lot of that stuff this entire offseason. A lot of tweets.
Starting point is 02:09:11 I don't know what's real and what isn't real. And I could have just done the research. I apologize for not doing that. But it was in the middle of me just getting, you know, just buried this weekend on the internet. Yeah, that's hard to imagine because he just restructured his contract to clear like five-something in cap space and they've done that with Josh Allen and Von Miller and they really haven't made that big splash yet and that's kind of why it feels
Starting point is 02:09:32 as though OBJ is kind of the answer to both Rodgers, obviously with the potential New York Jets trade that's coming, kind of match that on offense and also Jalen Ramsey in Miami. Like, they need to kind of respond to that a little. Odell's a dude. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:09:46 DeHop's a dude. There's a free agent list left right now. There's some big names that are still available out there. Obviously, the first wave during the tampering period went a lot of big guys. Then the second wave went through. We had a lot of linebackers. We had some big names move and big names sign. We still have some people on the board.
Starting point is 02:10:04 Will they be on the board all the way through the draft? So teams have a little bit better understanding of what their roster needs or what it doesn't need. I forget who we were talking to, but they basically said going into the draft, you want to have all your holes filled so you can just draft best player. I think that was Ian Rappaport. So if you go into the draft and you don't have all your holes filled, you plan on utilizing the draft to fill some of your holes on your roster.
Starting point is 02:10:24 Those are two different strategies, two different situations that teams find themselves in going into the draft. We need a guy at this position or we're filled. We're just looking for best available player that we can add into our roster and hopefully make us better. So we'll find out a lot about what teams are doing what. Sounds like the Carolina Panthers are still going to be making some free agency plays after talking to Adam Thielen. Dalton Schultz still being out there? He what teams are doing what. Sounds like the Carolina Panthers are still going to be making some free agency plays after talking to Adam Thielen.
Starting point is 02:10:46 Dalton Schultz still being out there? Yeah, very good. Ezekiel Elliott has some great football left in him, we think. Marcus Peters is a dog. Rocky Sin was traded from the Colts to the Raiders, played good football. Clowney's out there. Lamar Jackson, free agent.
Starting point is 02:11:07 I guess he's been available if you look at the technical terms there dj charke who was allegedly heading over to the carolina panthers is there yannick and gawkway's a player isaiah mckenzie's a dog frank clark is a weapon leonard floyd's still out there a little will compton can still fucking add to a team. Absolutely. Taylor LeJuan, I've seen him this weekend. He looks like he's ready to take on some guys. Yeah, fight shape. Hell yeah. Teddy Bridgewater obviously going to end up somewhere, we'd assume, because he's a very viable backup quarterback option,
Starting point is 02:11:35 and that is something that you need in the NFL, especially at the rate, I would assume, he's going to command at this particular stage of his career. Isaiah Wynn? Yeah, some of the names are almost like too big. Like they probably want money because they deserve it, but the contract's being handed out. Yeah, if you look at what happened with CJGJ, allegedly what's being reported is the Eagles made an offer to CJGJ.
Starting point is 02:11:57 He did not accept it. He wanted something bigger. So they made a play. The Eagles didn't kind of move on. CJGJ hit the market. The market allegedly via Jeff McClain. This Eagles didn't kind of move on. CJ, GJ hit the market. The market allegedly via Jeff McClain. This might have been where? Jeff Lane.
Starting point is 02:12:10 This might have been. Oh, yeah. Because I just learned of Jeff McClain. Great work on Jeff McClain. If this is all accurate, we're not 100% sure. But Jeff McClain, who has a great name and appears to be a dog, has a good tie there in the profile photo. He basically says that the Eagles made him an offer.
Starting point is 02:12:24 He was looking for more. They moved on, signed Bradbury and extended Darius Slay, who we thought was not going to be an Eagle anymore because he was allowed to look for other teams. And his agent, he and his agent overvalued not realizing the market. The league viewed him as a risk, is what Jeff McClain is saying. We did not say that. I would love
Starting point is 02:12:39 fucking CJGJ on any team that I'm a fan of. And then he took a prove- deal for eight million dollars with the detroit lions who congrats to the lions yeah huge gift hell yeah hey he's a dog and also he's going to be very eager to make plays because he's on a one-year deal with the lions this is a great fucking signing by the detroit yeah i'm fired up and he played under dan campbell and aaron glenn when they're with the saints together and then yeah i mean the lions had a terrible secondary.
Starting point is 02:13:06 We're secondary in the league last year, and now they added three free agents that are proven vets. So 10-7 in a playoff win has never been so fucking real, and I'm not kidding right now. How about the brand-new Lions, bro? It's unbelievable. I mean, Brad Holmes has done a really good job as GM. I can't think of one thing that he did bad. You could say the Hawkinson trade was a little much,
Starting point is 02:13:24 but it's turned out to be good. He's fucking kicking ass, and it just makes a huge difference. Matthew Stafford won a Super Bowl whenever he went to the Rams, and they picked up Jared Goff's contract, but Jared Goff has played fucking great football. No one expected it. As far as NFC quarterbacks go, he's played great football. Easily.
Starting point is 02:13:40 We don't like to be our person up there anymore. No. But that is not going to hinge on us talking about the reality of what the Lions are. Yeah, JG. Fucking one other team outcome away from going to the playoffs. Yeah. Beat the Green Bay Packers last game of the season. It was supposed to be a go-to-the-playoffs game.
Starting point is 02:13:58 They won. What happened earlier in the day? Something you guys got from us. The Rams should have beat Seattle. The refs were pretty suspect that game. And then, yeah, it didn't matter after that for us but huge favorites to win the nfc north i can't remember the last time that's happened probably since i actually can't think of it since i've been alive your favorite over the vikings yeah oh yeah big time wow ty i was
Starting point is 02:14:18 thinking of all these things as i was just getting brutally buried by the Packers fans this weekend. Worth it. 100% understand. Agreed. You got to do what you got to do. When you're on the internet, you're going to get killed sometimes. I completely understand. They were creative.
Starting point is 02:14:34 They were solid. They were ruthless. Blocked a lot of people. Okay? Had to. You were never winning one of our Twitter giveaways. I cannot do it. With what you just said, I will not allow you to be a part
Starting point is 02:14:45 of it absolutely not clever ruthless great shit talk some very poor but good good effort here just not allowing you to be in our universe have a good one sayonara feels like you would wouldn't mind that anyways a lot of people following me that say a lot of terrible i'm like bro you oh yeah holy shit what do we even why do you follow me if you're just gonna if you feel that with ways. A lot of people following me that say a lot of terrible things. I'm like, bro, you... Holy shit, bro. Why do you follow me if you're just going to... If you feel that... Some of there was like some pent-up, felt like a couple years worth of... Coming to grips with Rodgers
Starting point is 02:15:13 leaving. They were killing me. I mean, I was getting... I was trending Saturday. I've talked about this. I woke up. I was trending. I was like, what am I trending for? I was getting killed by the Green Bay Packers fans. I respect it. I appreciate it. And as I was thinking of everything they were saying to me, and as I was thinking to myself, we're going to find out who's right here.
Starting point is 02:15:30 Results-oriented business, we know. I started thinking, well, the Vikings, they had a hell of a year this year. Very good. Hell of a year this year. Now, will they ever be able to go on and do what everybody thinks that they can never accomplish? Which is, can Kirk and the boys go on and dominate and win the big one?
Starting point is 02:15:46 A lot of people want to get, they've got to play off one against the Saints a few years back, but are they going to be able to be the class of the NFC North? And then I started thinking to myself, they also got to worry about the fucking Lions. Shoot, got to worry about the goddamn Lions right now. Lions have obviously had the Packers number for a long time. That's
Starting point is 02:16:02 been something I think has always been good battles. But I started thinking to myself, there's an opportunity, a chance here. The Packers, they're going time. That's been something I think has always been good battles. But I started thinking to myself, there's an opportunity, a chance here. The Packers, they're going to have to battle for this. It's not just easy. It's not like an easy division to just continue to have success and go to the playoffs and go deep into the playoffs
Starting point is 02:16:17 and win some playoff games. It's a much harder road to get in in the NFC North now than it was six years ago or seven years ago. It feels like. And the Lions are one of the main reasons why. Foxy, that's got to feel pretty fucking good, though. I'll be honest. It's weird. Like, it's so weird. I'll be curious to see how with now expectations are high. We won nine games last year. We'll see how other teams perceive us. Our schedule naturally will be harder because of that. But yeah, I mean, they got everything.
Starting point is 02:16:43 The O-line's still all there. Two great running backs. The wide receivers are incredible. Goff, there's no reason he shouldn't have another good year with Ben Johnson. The only thing that sucked and the only reason we didn't make the playoffs last year was the defense. They shored up the secondary, got awesome draft picks now. I mean, there is no reason to think that this team can't go win 10 games in a playoff game like i am dead serious when i say that it's it's weird i'll be honest so to get in the playoff game though you would
Starting point is 02:17:09 have to win a couple times probably in your division to win a wild card type situation there yeah so like ty is that a reality that i should not even be thinking about or is that a reality that is actually in the packers universe i mean it's certainly possible i'm definitely gonna bet on the packers to win the division. It'll be the best value that I'll probably ever get. You know, may not get it again. And, you know, typically good franchises find a way to win. That is real.
Starting point is 02:17:34 It might not be this year. They might not go to the playoffs this year, but typically good franchises find a way to kind of get back to the mountaintop. Okay, so they got two years with Jordan Love, right? Yeah. They have to pick up his fifth year by May 1st or May
Starting point is 02:17:49 15th or something. Because it's the Danny Dimes. The Danny Dimes route, which I think you probably should do. I don't know why you'd pick up a guy. You haven't seen him play yet. Make him fucking play and see if it's worth
Starting point is 02:18:05 doing that. Once again, they've put themselves in this situation. For sure. Same group that is in power right now. Yeah, absolutely. But I also think what other choice do you have? I think that would... You'd look like... Jordan has a chance to be good, bro. Absolutely. Jordan has a chance. And I really hope he does, but you'd look...
Starting point is 02:18:23 From a front office standpoint, like you would look really bad if you pick up his fifth year, and he has an awful year this year. And I hope that doesn't happen. I don't think it'll happen. The Lions are a team. The Vikings are a team. I mean, the Bears have the ninth overall pick,
Starting point is 02:18:40 and they just got DJ Moore and Justin Fields is pretty good last year. The NFC North is the fucking real deal. It's not like Jordan Love is getting dropped into a fucking easy situation. It's not like the NFC South or another one. The AFC South, for a while, a lot of people knocked. The AFC South is a weak division. The NFC North, I think a lot of people potentially knocked because how dominant the Packers have been for a long, long time. Right.
Starting point is 02:18:58 And it just seems like at this exact moment, everybody's getting good over there. That is a real... And you know what's funny? This is Gunther Kunze's legacy. This is Mark Murphy's, and this is Jordan Love's legacy. It is not an easy time to be in the NFC North
Starting point is 02:19:13 at all. And I was thinking about a lot of that stuff as I was getting buried, but Packers win. That's what the fucking Green Bay Packers do. Right, Foxy? Yeah, exactly. And guess what? Since I've known Ty for six years now, six years ago, he would always tell me, literally every single time we talked Packers-Lions, Foxy, nothing matters until Aaron Rodgers is out of the division.
Starting point is 02:19:35 And now we're here. The Lions are actually good. And now I feel like I have a chance. We're not there yet. We're not here yet. Remember? Yeah, yeah. You're right.
Starting point is 02:19:42 Why are we classifying the Lions as good, too? They didn't make the playoffs last year. They haven't. Oh, yeah. We're comparing them to, remember? Yeah, yeah. You're right. Why are we classifying the Lions as good, too? They didn't make the playoffs last year. They haven't. Oh, yeah. We're comparing them to the Lions. Yeah. Yeah. Come on.
Starting point is 02:19:50 Lions of old. Well, no, no. Foxy said now the Lions are good. They were good. Nine wins. Nine late. It's really good for the Lions. There's another game added, so nine wins is different now than whenever there were 16
Starting point is 02:20:02 games, but they beat the Packers in what they thought was going to be. At Lambeau. At Lambeau. Sunday night football. Yeah, the story. Started out one and six, too. So that second half of the season, they were a good football team. Packers win that game, Aaron might still be there.
Starting point is 02:20:16 What's that? Packers win that game, Aaron might still be there. That's interesting, isn't it? And then they win a playoff game and then another one. That's right, with the value of like. Lions. The Lions. Holy fuck, dude.
Starting point is 02:20:30 Michigan State wins too? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Fox, he's living. Oh, yeah. We knew it. That was a layup. Was it?
Starting point is 02:20:37 I didn't know. Oh, yeah. Okay. That had Izzo written all over it. It really did. It's weird. Like you get these teams that don't have great regular seasons and then azo gets into the tournament and he exceeds everyone's expectations beats teams he's not supposed to be i wouldn't be surprised if they fucking make the final four now that's just what
Starting point is 02:20:54 he does it makes no sense there was an awesome moment where michigan state was on like a 7-0 run or something and they needed to get a stop maybe like three minutes left four minutes left i forget what it was and i saw azo on the sideline yeah go like let's fucking go i don't know what he said but it was something like that oh yeah and i was like man i love that then uh the other team went 7-0 7-0 like that i'm like oh my god like because i was watching at home and i saw iso get excited i'm like i'm pumped up i assume these dudes like this is when they're about to go. College basketball is such a game of runs, bro. Such a game of runs. Being able to control it, it is a
Starting point is 02:21:29 crazy thing and it feels like Izzo's able to do that every single time he's in a tournament. Yeah, exactly. And you just gotta be on the clock strike zero and you better be on that run, otherwise you lose the game. That's what all these games come down to. And to your point, like, if you got a bad game, it stinks, but when you have a great game, it's fucking awesome. College basketball is awesome when you have a great game it's fucking awesome
Starting point is 02:21:45 college basketball is awesome when there's a great game because you'll see something like um what's his name roberts the five foot eight point guard for fd oh from fdu fdu i forget his name he's number eight he had a sleeve on he was like one of the quickest most so explosive kansas state had one of those two one of the most explosive dudes I've ever seen, number eight. And he did this behind the back crossover of a guy while in the arc on the side of it and then shake and then like a reverse layup. And I was like, that's the greatest play I've ever seen in my entire life. And then the other guy, and it was like a middle of runs, guy went down, put up a three.
Starting point is 02:22:22 It hit the top of the backboard okay and bounced all the way up that's what college basketball is yep you're gonna see like maybe one of the greatest plays you've ever seen and then in the middle of a very serious time a very pivotal moment there's a chance you see a ball miss the entire arena like out of nowhere good college basketball is tough to beat them what the fuck's's going on? This is exciting as hell. And that's what I realized this weekend, I think. Well, and that's what, like, we can joke about, you know, the stuff, like, giving foxy shit about Izzo with, like, the, you know,
Starting point is 02:22:52 February, Izzo, April, et cetera, et cetera. But, like, coaching in the NCAA tournament matters so much. And you can tell, like, the really good coaches when you have very few days to prepare for a team that you've never played before like that's what it meant like he's just he outcoached andy enfield from usc outcoached shaka smart like shaka's a good coach too right nah he hasn't been worth shit since vcu as a oh you want the usc right yeah fired at texas as a dog he's good as yeah as a dog he's good as a favorite not so much but like it really is it really is. Izzo, especially those – this Michigan State team was supposed to be kind of garbage this year.
Starting point is 02:23:29 They're the only Big Ten team left because Izzo is just – he's a great coach. And when you don't have very many days to prepare, those guys are always going to play hard. They're going to play good defense. And then they have some dogs, and their guard play is just very good. Indiana late last night gave one up. Thought they were going to win. My wife's family, massive Hoosier fans.
Starting point is 02:23:50 They were not happy that Purdue got beat the way they did either because represent for Indiana. Yeah, true. You know, you're in Indiana here. But Indiana winning for the Indiana Hoosier fans, I think, was like another we got it from here, Purdue. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:24:03 And then last night, late night, I didn't make it through the night, but they did not. Slapped. Yeah, it was not good, right? Miami, yeah. Hey, they're players. Oh, yeah. Didn't they get their best guy back? Yeah. And he had a great game. Did Brandon Miller score any points? Yes, he had 19 in the second game of...
Starting point is 02:24:19 Here we go. All right. Gonzaga and Timmy, they're still winning. Yeah, they didn't cover though, right? No. Bro. That was an all-time miss. What a nightmare. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:24:31 That was yesterday? Yes, last night. Four and a half. Late night last night. Yeah. Yep. I didn't get to see it. I was passed out.
Starting point is 02:24:37 Me too. Game over. Gone. Inbound. Dribble out. This thing's over. Move on, TCU. Congratulations, great showing in basketball.
Starting point is 02:24:48 Just like congratulations, great season in football. TCU's doing their thing. 0.8 seconds left? How much was it? Yeah, I think it was 0.7. 0.7, and they rolled it. I did some even more. They're down how many?
Starting point is 02:25:02 84-78. Six. Six, yeah. So I did some even more. They're down how many? 84-78. Six. Six, yeah. So I did some even more. Line four and a half. More research. They were up by seven, I think, with nine seconds left. And then TCU hit a three to cut it down to four.
Starting point is 02:25:16 And then TCU fouled with.7 seconds left. So they go, even if they didn't do that foul, they would have covered. They go back to the line to get it to six and then they hit the three this three though ball rolling on court you know when you watch basketball and it matters and they're like we don't want to start the countdown or the clock so we'll let this thing roll
Starting point is 02:25:35 LeBron actually did it to one year where he wasn't playing really he showed up with the wine he let it roll right out of bounds he stopped the clock, clock never started he saved time never had the ball but saved time with the wine. Yep. He let it roll right out of bounds. That's right. He stopped the clock. Clock never started. That's right. He saved time.
Starting point is 02:25:47 Saved the possession. Never had the ball, but saved time for sure. We actually seen that happen. We're big LeBron James fans. He mailed it in that year. Down six. Game over. Under a second left.
Starting point is 02:25:59 Let that thing roll. Guy picks it up around fucking half court. Like a movie. A chuck. Christian La Like a movie. Chuck. Christian Laettner-like type. Yeah. Like quick ball shot, splash, no cover. And that's the game.
Starting point is 02:26:15 Congratulations to Gonzaga on another win. People had to be fucking sick. Sick. Sick. I'd be disgusted. I don't know if I'd bet again. I'd be pissed for a little bit. Did you see the NIT one as well?
Starting point is 02:26:26 11 and a half. I'm a little bummed, but I did not see. 11 and a half with the NIT. That's on me. That's on me. West Virginia's been in there. I mean, I'm not watching the game. But this is a terrible beat. It was on Twitter.
Starting point is 02:26:36 It was an 11 and a half point spread. Guy shot it at the buzzer. They actually cut away from the game. So they don't show what happens whether the ball went in or not they're shaking hands during the line and then the score changes they cover 11 and a half oh my god they're up by i think how do they know 14 how do these people know last night with the fucking fdu plus 16 and a half they got it wrong as soon as we've seen it we all knew it was wrong it's like we're all going to take advantage of this i did a lot of people did we all did we got them yeah new jersey school come on 17 points they just fucking that's a lot of points
Starting point is 02:27:12 just be purdue then towards the end it got to like 10 then to 12 oh yeah if it would have been two more minutes they would have lost by 20 i was gonna say these fucking sports books these assholes because that was the safest win yeah that I've had in a long time. That was a comfortable win. Like, we were up. We were up for a long time. And then towards the end of that game, it was like two minutes left, a minute 30 left. He got to like 10, then he got to 12, and I'm like, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 02:27:38 So when I see Anderson, Tobin, Tobin, Anderson go like this, I'm like, fuck it. Thank God this game's over or whatever. And then old buddy goes for the dunk. Imagine if that would have been. Oh, my God. Would have been unbelievable, though. If that was to cover and he misses a dunk, time runs out. Either way.
Starting point is 02:27:55 Oh, yeah, you're right. That would have been an all-time cover. If they were up 15. Yes. If they're up 15 at that time. Yeah. Eight seconds left and Tobin's like, no, we're good. And then that guy says, fuck that. Yeah. No, no Tobin's like, no, we're good. And then that guy's just fucked up.
Starting point is 02:28:06 Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no. And then he misses. My guy, my guy, my guy. He did it on purpose. He wanted to give us a little scare. A lot of heartbreak. Let's go to the phones here.
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Starting point is 02:29:12 Yeah, so you guys were touching on a little March Madness, and I'm an alum of the Kansas State University going up against Foxy, Michigan State, whatever they're called. against Foxy, Michigan State, whatever they're called. Maybe we have a little remix January, February, Tang, April, and May. Nailed it. Thank you, Juan. That's Tang. Okay?
Starting point is 02:29:37 You ain't got that. Tang. Why has everyone got to steal our logos? I mean, you guys try to steal Hockey Town, and now everyone wants to steal fucking january february you guys think you created that did you guys create that uh that's just been the same my whole life so i assume so okay okay okay i got your doctor did you nighy smith didn't have it named after you created basketball 152 times right 16 has played a one so it happens four times yeah happens four times a year. So you start doing the math on how long that tournament has existed, right?
Starting point is 02:30:08 Because 16 seeds are two and 150 against number one overall seeds, Purdue being the second one. UC, no, University of Maryland, Santa Clara. Yeah, UMCB. Baltimore County or something. There it is, UMBC. You get it. Yeah, University of Maryland, Santa Clara, California. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:30:25 That was what it was. But that's only two times and 152 times. You can start doing the math on how many times. Long fucking time. Yeah. Long time. I thought Tony was going to mention a different doctor with the last name N. What are you talking about? Come on. I thought you were going to throw a shot on Michigan State.
Starting point is 02:30:41 I just wasn't sure what you were saying. Oh, Larry. Bad guy. I don't like to talk about were saying. Oh, Larry. Bad guy. I don't like to talk about bad people. Terrible guy. Bad guy. Terrible guy. No one's trying to steal that one from you, Foxy. Well, that's true. Talking about Michigan State as a whole? Yep.
Starting point is 02:30:57 That happened when I was at school. It was wild. Yeah, it was wild. All the professors. Foxy, what was that thing I seen last night that was your generation that I couldn't catch? No. Fucking JaVale McGee. JaVale McGee. JaVale McGee. No. I sent that in.
Starting point is 02:31:08 This is bullshit. I know. You sent it in to get in front of me. That was a smart idea. That's Mitch's generation. Everybody learned about our group text this morning whenever we were chatting with Brett Coleman about the situation that, a misunderstanding that happened on the internet yesterday that ended with me getting called an absolutely horrible human being.
Starting point is 02:31:26 But the timeline in the group text, I think, helped explain my side of the miscommunication a little bit more. And I had many faults in that whole story. But I think people don't truly understand this group text. It is the aggregator of information from around the entire internet at all times. And literally anything in there is fair game for this show. If it goes into the group text, there's a good chance
Starting point is 02:31:51 it's going to be talked about in this show. We don't know when. Yeah. Could be four to five days later. Could be two to three weeks later. Yes. But if it's in that group text, it is going to be talked about.
Starting point is 02:31:59 So it's an active thing. It's like a blog almost. Just of shit coming through there. Everybody's, it's a fantastic creation. It's our For blog almost, just of shit coming through there. Everybody's, it's a fantastic creation. It's our For You tab. It is, yeah, it is phenomenal. Foxy sends in his generation ruining JaVale McGee's life. As JaVale McGee posted this on his Instagram, I do believe.
Starting point is 02:32:21 Cool thing, I don't know what he do on the internet and shit. Reaction or something. Look at this guy, Foxy. I don't know what he's trying to do. He's just on some weird shit. This guy's on some weird shit. Yeah. He's trying to enjoy himself. We're grown men around here.
Starting point is 02:32:33 We grew up before just social media age. You know what I'm saying? So, don't phase us. We didn't have real one step to us, and we really had to put it down. You know what I'm saying? Hell yeah. So, it's cool. It's nuts.
Starting point is 02:32:51 It's going to be on one of these. It's going to be on something. So, when y'all see it, just know. Hey, just know, like, if I end up smacking this guy's phone out of his fucking hand, I've tried here. Yes. If I end up smacking this guy's phone out of his fucking hand, I've tried here. He didn't. I don't know how long the stare down continued by that weirdo with his phone two feet away from McGee's face. That's your generation of fucks. No, no, no.
Starting point is 02:33:14 That kid's got to be 20. I'm 28. That's a full generation. Maybe two generations below me. JaVale McGee's a dog, though. He's from Flint, Michigan. He had every right to smack that kid in the mouth. He should have smacked him up.
Starting point is 02:33:25 What was that kid doing? I don't understand, Fox. He should be in jail for life. It should be legal to smack him in the mouth. Life without parole. Allegedly. Allegedly. Because I believe that was something that somebody said about somebody.
Starting point is 02:33:37 Right. But there's stuff like that all the time that I get sent to the group that we'll miss. Like we missed Kamal Harris' husband kissing Jill Biden. And then we got that sent in. And it was like, holy shit, how do we miss this, guys? What are we doing? Every once in a while, some toxicity makes its way in there. Which I said that. I mean, if you come from an Italian background, that's not good.
Starting point is 02:33:56 That's how you do it. That's saying hello. You need to show me more. Yeah, I'm going to need to use some tongue or something like that. I don't know what's real on the internet either. So I'm a big fake. Yeah, we saw the thing in Alaska with the moon just disappearing.
Starting point is 02:34:09 Marked in a circle. That ruined my life. Thought it was real. That editing was unbelievable. Good editing. And it was neat. It was super neat. I've never been there either.
Starting point is 02:34:18 So like, maybe that's what I heard. The amount of time that that editor... Watch out for deep fakes, boys. They're getting more and more real. Deep fakes now. I've seen Tom Cruise doing some workout on a podcast with Howie Mandel. It was not Tom Cruise, though.
Starting point is 02:34:31 Is that the deep fake Tom guy? Probably. He's good. He is unbelievable. Yeah, he's unbelievable. And he's in great shape, too. I think, now, if Tom, which he would never, and I don't even like saying, needed a stuntman, I think this guy Stop. Don't even finish the sentence. Don't even think about finishing the sentence.
Starting point is 02:34:47 You know the mistake you just made. The fact that the thought even came. Exactly. And also, TC ain't fucking wasting his time with Howie Mandel. You don't know. They might be old friends from way back in the day. No, no, no, no, no. Could you imagine Tom Cruise on America's Got Talent?
Starting point is 02:34:59 Well, hello, what's your name and what are you doing today? My name's Tom Cruise and I'm going to do everything. Jump off that building without a fucking parachute. And if you want to hit that golden buzzer, you should. Go ahead. And if you don't, I'm going right back up there again with another dirt bike
Starting point is 02:35:15 and I'm jumping off the fucking higher peak. Did you see the poster for the Mission Impossible movie? Uh-uh. They just caught Tom in full regalia. Free fall. Selling selling out bike beneath him off the cliff that one's going to be a rent the theater out for it I'll tell you that
Starting point is 02:35:33 really? I'm just learning about TC only thing I knew about TC was him staying on share at Oprah's doing his thing because I don't know movies that much Ty Schmidt is one of Tom Cruise's TC was him staying on share. There it is. At Oprah's doing his thing. Right, being a wacko. Yep. Because I don't know movies that much.
Starting point is 02:35:47 Ty Schmidt is one of Tom Cruise's biggest fans. Has forced me to watch numerous things. And after this new Top Gun, can't help but go, God damn. Yeah. What'd you watch last night? Watched Edge of Tomorrow last night. Just classic with him and Emily Blunt.
Starting point is 02:36:04 Unbelievable. Emily Blunt is with The Rock Watch them get ready together They like each other, it's a good time They are super positive It's hard not to see when you're drinking Mono all the time Well, Terra Mono Mono Mono
Starting point is 02:36:16 Mono The Rock and Brendan Fraser had a moment Yeah, that wasn't staged What? Come on, guys I thought it was Hollywood, bro. What do you think it is? Yeah, thank you.
Starting point is 02:36:27 Fugue is like fake humans? No, it happened. Frazier was 600 pounds a month ago. How do you think he got down to where he is now? The Rock. He won Best Makeup at the Oscars. Dewey went up to him and said, listen up, fucker. I know you just won Best Actor, but we're going to act like we're having a conversation.
Starting point is 02:36:41 Stop doing this. Stop it. You saw it. First hand. You need to stop spinning your shit. Thank you, Nick. You guys got caught lying about the great president that we're going to have in the future. I hope so.
Starting point is 02:36:52 Dwayne the Rock. Yeah. We'll see. I thought you guys knew something I didn't because you follow the movie world so closely. You guys are like, oh, Brendan Fraser and Rock don't like each other. That's a real story. That's what the trades are saying. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:37:02 Trades and tabloids are saying it. Because of the mummy. Yeah, they love each other. The mummy. Brendan Fraser gave him his big, like, you know, hey, let's go. You're the rock. Let's get you in this movie. And then after that, the rock took off and left Fraser in the cell.
Starting point is 02:37:14 What are you talking about? The guy's a grown man. What are we talking about? I'm just telling you. What are we talking about? I'm just telling you what they're saying. This is what the tabloids are saying, brother. I don't like what you're saying about Tara Monah's finder.
Starting point is 02:37:24 It's not me. I love Monah. I'm just saying. I'm not saying this. This is what the tabloids are saying, brother. I don't like what you're saying about Tara Monah's finder. I love Monah. I'm just saying. I'm not saying this. This is what people are talking about happening. Which is an issue with our show every once in a while. In Young Rock, he did say that that was the worst decision of him doing that movie, too. Scorpion King? What?
Starting point is 02:37:39 Yeah. I just don't know. We're going to need a little more context of what you just said right there. Any of you seriously drinking those Zevia deuce know if I can take it. We're going to need a little more context than what you just said right there. Any of you serious? Thank you, Nick. Drinking those Zevia Dews. I do not like it. It does not taste good.
Starting point is 02:37:50 I don't care what this man tells you. Why are you coming after us, dude? It's not bad. Yeah. I don't know. Zevia Dews. That's not Dew. How?
Starting point is 02:37:57 Of course it's not. I don't know how this works. It doesn't taste like Dew. I don't know how there's zero calories, zero carbs. It's the leaf. Zero sodium, zero calories, zero carbs, zero sodium, zero fat, zero sugars, zero protein, and it doesn't have that aspartame shit in it. Somehow
Starting point is 02:38:11 this in here, you pop it, it has a full thing. It's the stevia leaf that's in it. That's where they come from. You know how? Because it fucking tastes like shit. There's nothing in it. That's how. Fine, then fucking put it down and throw it out there, Damon. No, no, fucking give it back.
Starting point is 02:38:28 Give me my... No, I'll have it. I'll have it. I've had to hold it in for how long? But you sold this like this was a fucking ice cold dude reincarnated. It's as close as it can get without the aspartame. I don't know why we're listening to Connor on food and drink takes. The guy throws a shot at the gas station.
Starting point is 02:38:44 This is as close as you can get. Okay? I taste more Sprite in it. Yeah, maybe like what's the fucking other It's diluted. It's very cut. It's a very watery drink. Yeah, it's not fucking soda. We know that.
Starting point is 02:38:59 Yeah, guess what? It's not soda. Yes. Good observation, you fuckers. Connor, no no don't lump me into this let's blame other people for not acknowledging what we've been up to we found chicken pizza no two three carbs didn't we donuts we found donuts on the internet we've been keto and all tasted great too wow the pizza was good it was just small that was that was wrong but also that's kind of what you have to understand. If you're getting something called chicken pizza, you can't eat a lot of it, or else it's not.
Starting point is 02:39:28 I see. You know, my big issue with it is it took seven years to get. I don't think they knew the quantity of sales they were going to get from their social media run, this chicken pizza thing. Yeah, I was just for four of them, too. We just ordered 45 of them. Yeah, because the texture of pizza needs to be back in my life. I need pizza, but I'm also on keto.
Starting point is 02:39:51 It has worked out. During the weekends, I certainly get after it, but it's been nice. I did it all football season. I kind of got after it during the weekends. Now I've added in pickleball in the morning. I'm working out fast and cardio literally every single morning. I feel like I can live with this for a long extended period of time.
Starting point is 02:40:07 But whenever we are doing keto Sunday through Friday, I'd like to add a couple more things potentially in there. Chicken pizza was awesome. The Sprite with no aspartame has been a great addition. Thank you for this, Connor. Thank you for bringing it to our life.
Starting point is 02:40:24 Is Evia healthy? I hope you don't love your kidneys. Has been a great addition. Yep. Thank you for this, Connor. Thank you for bringing it to our life. Is Zevia healthy? I mean, yeah. Hope you don't love your kidneys. Kidney damage. I mean, you can look up any. I've actually, that aspartame thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:40:35 I looked up aspartame. Is aspartame healthy? And there's sites that say yes. So, I mean, you can look up, and this was 2017. So, it's going to make you piss a lot. That's not good. We've got to stay hydrated. We've got to remember that, which I have felt some effects from. I think all going to make you piss a lot. That's not good. We got to stay hydrated. We got to remember that, which I have felt some effects from.
Starting point is 02:40:47 I think all caffeine has a chance to do that. Yeah, liquids also. Allergic reaction? Okay. Just any? No, you've been drinking them, so you'd know already. But I'm just saying that's a risk and a side effect.
Starting point is 02:40:58 Allergic reaction. Okay, could be allergic to this entire thing. Hypoglycemia or low blood sugar, low blood pressure. That's good, right? You don't want high blood pressure. or low blood sugar low blood pressure that's good right you don't want high blood pressure you don't want or high pressure low blood pressure what does that mean it means my heart ain't moving seems healthy it's like when you're too everybody always says no high blood pressure this thing's saying i maybe have low blood pressure remember when you were uh consuming all those nameless energy drinks and then uh you're getting a little faint
Starting point is 02:41:23 little light-headed I was almost dead I almost passed out live on Smackdown Five times That's why because I had low blood pressure I thought it would be the opposite You remember the bang days In the back of that box truck Dude I almost passed out numerous times on TV
Starting point is 02:41:41 I saw somebody faint on television And everybody talked about how big of a deal it was I'm like I'm about five six times on TV. I saw somebody faint on television and everybody talked about how big of a deal it was. I'm about five, six seconds away from about five, six faints on TV because the amount of energy drinks that I've drank in the past before doing things because we have this show normally during the entire day,
Starting point is 02:41:57 then some meetings, then another couple hour program and it's like, all right, let me just go ahead and hammer this really healthy energy drink. Yeah. Delicious. And then I started yelling about something. I started getting real lightheaded.
Starting point is 02:42:10 I'm like, oh, I'm dying right now. And then I'd survive. And guess what I'm doing? Put it on repeat next week. I ain't going to do it. It took me a while to get it. I want to go on record. Stevia, I believe, is healthier.
Starting point is 02:42:21 I want to go on record. Stevia, I believe, is healthier, but I didn't want to be on record watching you guys trying to pass these Zevia do's as Mountain Dew. No, it's an alternative for our keto lifestyle. Yeah, you know what? You guys just stay over there and have fun drinking your do's and being unhealthy. And I'm going to drink my fucking Zevia and live life. If you weren't so damn preachy about it, we wouldn't bother you. He's healthier than you are. I haven't pushed it on anyone until right now.
Starting point is 02:42:50 Except for me. You've pushed it on me because we haven't done it quite a bit. I've said try it, but I'm not. You were yelling across the room. Fox is going to try his Zevia. Foxy walked up to me with one in his hand. Hey, I'm going to try it. And you were happy because you're the introduction.
Starting point is 02:43:04 I said nice. I mean, when you see them in the fridge, they look so damn good. Well, they do look like a Dew or Sprite. Exactly. And it is an alternative. It has nothing in it somehow. Drinking a full 12-ounce can that is ice cold with carbonation somehow has nothing in it. I was at Costco this weekend.
Starting point is 02:43:19 First time, long time. Long, long, long time. Saturday morning. Ooh. Bro. You remember? Peak hours. My wife is a member. Yeah, my wife is a member. Headshot long, long time. Saturday morning. Ooh. Bro. You a member? Peak hours. My wife is a member, yeah.
Starting point is 02:43:27 My wife is a member. Had to show her car going in. Peep. How you doing? Keep moving. 20 degrees. Obviously very windy. So getting in and getting the cart was a problem.
Starting point is 02:43:35 Is it always the way it was on Saturday morning? Oh, yeah. We had to hide in between aisles to just get some sort of breather. My wife and I on this swing, which was fantastic. This swing almost came home. Almost took it right off the fucking floor there. But everywhere else, look at that bumper to bumper to bumper.
Starting point is 02:43:50 Those people aren't with each other over there. Nope. Those people are two, three different groups. Your Achilles is one, oh, what is that in there? Because I'm shopping and I don't know exactly where everything is in here. Away from getting
Starting point is 02:44:05 blasted from the person behind you. And it's your fault. Does Costco know that that is one of the most stressful, uncomfortable shopping experiences of all time? I just, everybody was in a massive, I get it, I appreciate it, I respect it. I think people are in there every week
Starting point is 02:44:21 for their restaurants and their homes and they got kids so they know exactly what they're doing. But Jesus, there was high anxiety while I was walking through there. What was your thoughts on no bagging? I understand no bagging because a lot of shit's coming in bulk. We did find a box though that was kind of just laying around.
Starting point is 02:44:38 We grabbed it. We were able to put stuff in there. I appreciate and respect what Costco is. I love it. I love the idea. I love the concept. I love the concept. I love everything that was in there. Bought a survival straw. What about that swing? And then also got some other, I mean, there is a wide variety of things.
Starting point is 02:44:52 They have clothes there, too. So much. Very soft clothes there. Had some good jeans, some good stretch. Love everything about it. The experience, though, and I was told that that's Saturday morning at Costco, every Saturday morning. Prime time. I'm all built for that. I was not to death Saturday morning at Costco every Saturday morning. Primetime. I'm all built for that.
Starting point is 02:45:07 I was not built for that. Because I'm not here every week. So I'm just trying to look because there's fucking a thousand things. And it's like there's somebody behind me like, ahem, ahem, ahem. How good do those TVs look when you walk in? I almost bought all of them. I actually called Zito. I'm like, yo, how much are we getting?
Starting point is 02:45:24 Because I think I just found 100 televisions. Yeah, can you use these? Because we were told that it's hard to find these TVs right now. I'm like, I found them. I just found a bunch. Literally four feet into Costco, they're staring at me.
Starting point is 02:45:33 And as I was looking at one of them, trying to read like thin bezel or whatever, I had a fucking car. I'm like, oh my God, this is from start all the way to finish. That happens. So congrats to Costco on having that many people in there. Is there any chance of Kuth in that place?
Starting point is 02:45:50 There's no chance of Kuth at Costco. Holy fuck. Just those hot dogs. Hot dogs. I did see those. They gave us some chicken. Handed samples out. Yeah, they had some.
Starting point is 02:46:00 That's the problem. That's the weekend. Hey, they're middle of the mall workers too. Oh yeah. I mean, they're selling. Yep. Hey, have you tried the chicken marsala guy said from fucking the other room i'm like you're talking i have tried exactly i have tried those will be sold out by the end of the day i'm like this guy's selling me right now like working me and then there's other people doing the whole thing then you keep pushing almost fucking get hit by a cart keep pushing somebody's turning
Starting point is 02:46:24 out of the lane with a kid in their cart. No thought. You have to stop because there's a kid in the cart. You have to like cut people off to get into the traffic. It was bananas. I thought I almost gave whiplash to a child. And then I thought it was like a bumper to bumper thing that was about to happen. I was going through it in there as I'm walking. One person's, excuse me, sir. Have you put your card on auto renewal? We can do it right here for you. Nice and easy. Like with a smile, like selling, I'm like, Hey, we can automatically take money out of your fucking account right here. Have a good time and do it. I'm like, how many people do they get to buy into the auto? They're working in there. I mean, it's a full work. You go in there, it's a full work. And there is a system to it that I was not able to catch up.
Starting point is 02:47:06 My wife is a dog in there, though. She's a fucker. She knows exactly where we're headed, how we're heading it. You've got to push that cart a little bit, she told me. You've got to get in there. I'm like, I'm not built for this. I'm not built for Costco. But I appreciated what they were doing.
Starting point is 02:47:19 In my eyes, just not an experience that I would like to do. The only sham, I would think, at the end when you show the receipt, they're not looking at it, but it's a long ass line. Our lady checked it. Yeah, they scanned the receipt and then they scanned something in your cart normally. Yeah, they checked a couple things. I used the highlighter, lady. Yeah, highlighter thing was the thing.
Starting point is 02:47:37 They checked what was on the bottom because they assumed, I guess, that I would hide the shit on the bottom if I was trying to steal it. They checked that pretty close. Lady was pretty efficient, though. But, yeah, you're right. Line on the way in. Line on the way out I was trying to steal it. They checked that pretty close. Lady was pretty efficient though, but yeah, you're right. Line on the way in, line on the way out, line the entire time shopping. But, a lot of good shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:47:51 And if you're stealing something, you're taking a water out and you're putting it in the water bottle thing, but for your Achilles point, did you see the video of the guy who got bumped in the leg a few too many times? No. What happened? He picked up a cart and launched it. Hold on.
Starting point is 02:48:07 That's why I asked AQ. I literally asked AQ because I sent a text. I was like, boys, Costco is wild. Into that group text. And I assume you all read it as like understanding the type of human I am and what was probably happening. AQ goes, that's Shipley's favorite store.
Starting point is 02:48:23 You know what he said in another group of texts? He did say that. And I go, have you ever fought a human or flipped a cart? Because that was my initial thought. Like, man, I could see how some people I know in here, with how close these carts are onto your back, with the lack of consideration for any moment of pause to look for what you need, with some of the people that I had behind me,
Starting point is 02:48:41 I could see some motherfuckers just being like, nope, not doing it. On a bad day? Boom. Like, you know how you break check somebody? Oh, yeah. I thought about break checking a couple people in there numerous times. Like, yo, come the fuck on, bro. Like, we are, you're not going to get to this thing faster if you give me a second and a half of space there.
Starting point is 02:48:58 I would assume something. Is that what happened? A guy flipped a guy's cart? No, it was way more violent and way worse. It's like one of the carts that Costco has that they're putting a bunch of the shit on that is very heavy and this fucking guy I still have no idea how he do it. He just
Starting point is 02:49:13 picks it up and throws it on top of this lady and she crumbles like a... Oh my god, that's not good at all. I do see how that could happen with what I was going through. I saw some people get pissed off at some people. I saw some people rushing to grab something when there was maybe a limited amount left. It was like the toilet paper at the beginning of the
Starting point is 02:49:30 COVID. I seen some people fucking battling. I'm like, I'm not cut out. I don't think I'm meant for this. Just go get toilet paper somewhere else. Yeah, no thanks. They're doing it in there though. Great deals. Yeah, Costco's great. Great deals. Can't look at them though. Can't even think about it.
Starting point is 02:49:46 Yeah, Saturday morning's a tough time, because you get all the cheapskates who are going in there basically just eating all day with the samples. You know, like, oh, what's this? And then fucking making a laugh, and oh, what do you got here? You know, just doing that for hours and hours. We used to do that at the mall all the time. Oh, yeah. We used to do that at the mall in high school.
Starting point is 02:50:02 Yep, been there. That was a literal meal sometimes. What are we doing tonight? Mall? Samples? Bingo. Fucking go. Just go walk around the Monroeville Mall. Nobody does that anymore, Diggs, huh?
Starting point is 02:50:12 Nobody walks around any malls. I don't believe the Monroeville Mall is what it used to be. Anybody walk around malls anymore? No. After COVID, no way. Is this what happened? Yeah. This is on the way checking out.
Starting point is 02:50:23 Look how close she is. That's just like there's nobody behind her either. I don't even know how that happens. Watch this. She takes one little. Brace yourself, Pat. Okay. Oh, you bumped me.
Starting point is 02:50:31 Okay. That's about it. It's happened one too many times. How wide that card is. Their cards are huge too. Simple pickup. What's up, lady? Boom.
Starting point is 02:50:42 Yeah. One too many times. Yeah. You catch a guy at the end of the trip is she okay and guess what yeah she's okay she fucking took the last thing of fruit snacks too and he he remembered what shit is she tapped him yeah he just got hit okay that was it oh my god i'm about to leave this place but obviously can't do this can't do it can't do this this. She was going to pass him too. A guy behind her like,
Starting point is 02:51:10 I was running my eye up on her Achilles. She's okay. It's tough to say. He did pick her up afterwards, put her in the cart and rolled her down the aisles. She's alive. Is that an extended version? Are you drinking your Zevia right now? I finished it.
Starting point is 02:51:25 Good, that's your last one. Good. That makes sense, though, that that happened. I feel terrible for that woman, obviously, and you can't do that to anybody, let alone a man to a lady, how terrible that is. But boy, I could see how situations like that might occur there at Costco.
Starting point is 02:51:42 That's right. On your way out, too. Probably a long day. I'm sure that wasn't the first time that guy saw Costco. That's right. On your way out, too. I had probably a long day out. I'm sure that wasn't the first time that guy saw her. Oh, bro. There was a couple times where I'm like, Sam, is there a time out anywhere in this place? It was exhausting
Starting point is 02:51:56 almost. People breathing very loudly behind me. Not on purpose to tell me to get out of the way, just how they breathe. I'm like, oh my God. It's Mitt God. Stop. Is Mitt here? So somebody went in a...
Starting point is 02:52:07 Exactly. Is Mitt behind? It sounded like Mitt was about to say something every four steps there for the frozen aisle area. Sure. Calm the fuck on, though. What are we... I'm just trying to find some keto meat, dude. I'm looking around.
Starting point is 02:52:25 I don't know where my shit is. I have no idea. And you pull off to the side, like it's the side of the road. No, you didn't. Nope. Because how wide those things are, you have to keep, like there's no, there's no real parking or safe space. That's how you get in the gridlock in there.
Starting point is 02:52:40 It is an awesome selection of stuff though. Yeah. And my wife kicks ass in there. So I'm very happy for her. She's got it all. I don't know you're going to see me ever back in one of those. Ever. You experienced it?
Starting point is 02:52:51 I did the Costco. Yeah. You get one of those. Great store. That would have been a place I would have been hanging out if I was a kid. And I knew somebody that had a member. I'd be in there. Yep.
Starting point is 02:52:59 That'd be a hangout. A lot of cool shit. Oh, yeah. Camping supplies. Everything you need. TVs. Pergolas. There was a full fucking Shed and pergolas
Starting point is 02:53:09 I had my eye on that one A lot of water Dude the wooden one Right in the middle Yes Yeah I was thinking about Putting it up right out here I'm like
Starting point is 02:53:13 I knocked on it a couple times It was like steel I'm like Okay This thing's a real deal Doesn't budge like that cart Do I just get this thing There was also these
Starting point is 02:53:21 Like really sturdy Like folding tables. Metal, though. The whole thing metal. I don't know how they folded. I don't know how they folded. Those things are probably a bitch hole. Sounds like everyone loses their finger trying to do that.
Starting point is 02:53:35 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Real thick, real heavy. They're like the most sturdy folding table or whatever. I'm like, how's that thing fold? I knocked on it, and it laid flat. There was a box underneath it, but I don't know how it got there. I don't know how. What an interesting place.
Starting point is 02:53:47 Yeah. Interesting place. Saw a lot of humans in there. It's a whole world. A lot of old Colts fans. You know what I mean? A lot of old Colts fans. Oh, sure.
Starting point is 02:53:56 And it was nice to chat with them. What? I know what you mean. What? What? Those fucking fat lards we see rolling around sometimes i know don't be disgusting bro look i'm just those people are in the zone that's why they're not focusing on how they're breathing i'm talking about people that are actual colts fans in there what do you yeah
Starting point is 02:54:16 i have there's no reason for you to be uh hey we went to a lot of colts games i we've seen a lot of colts fans i have an image in my brain. Sorry. They happen to be 280. All right, let's go to the phones. I did not mean that what he meant. Okay. I do believe what I meant by the people breathing is like they weren't even paying attention and other humans were in there.
Starting point is 02:54:35 They were just locked into a zone. Need to get three doors down on this freezer so that I can grab whatever pepperoni rolls I wanted to grab. Ooh, pep rolls. It was tough, bro. Let's go back to the 5R Energy phone line here. Let's go to Jack in North Carolina. Jack, what's going on, pal?
Starting point is 02:54:51 Yo, what's up, boys? Hey, just hanging. Jack talking about literally everything in life right now. What do you want to talk about, pal? Love it so much. I look forward to the show every day, whether I catch it live or recorded. Even hammered down. Hell yeah, Jack.
Starting point is 02:55:05 We appreciate the hell out of you, man. What do you want to talk about, brother? Well, it's my birthday, and I'm sitting here with a bit of a gag gift from my brother. He made me call in the Russell Wilson torpedo ball or whatever the hell it's called. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Dorsal fin. Happy birthday. That's not a gag gift.
Starting point is 02:55:26 What are you talking about? Fuck. Thank you. Can't wait to zip this thing around. There you go, Jack. It's not easy to play catch with, though, I will say. That's a throw and go getter. Wear Gardner gloves.
Starting point is 02:55:37 Calibrate it right. Fetch. All right. I hear you. But got to say, being from North Carolina, pumped about that feeling and dealing coming to the Queen City because the Panthers have been absolutely thinking it up. Atta baby, Jack.
Starting point is 02:55:53 Love that. Why don't you go play catch with D-Lo in a little bit? Get those hands right. Yeah. We appreciate you, Jack. Happy birthday, pal. Let's go to Hannah in Iowa. Hannah, what's going on in Iowa?
Starting point is 02:56:02 Hi. I think I got a bit of a... No! Sounds like a baby. Hello? Hello? That was not Hannah. Okay, what's going on in Iowa? I think I got this one. No! Sounds like a baby. Hello? That was not Hannah. Okay, that was somebody else. Hannah, how are you doing? Hey, I'm sorry. I'm playing Uno with my son.
Starting point is 02:56:16 How are we doing? Are we reversing right now? What are we doing right now? He gave me a plus one. Hi, I'm Hannah from Iowa. This is my first time calling in, and I'm very surprised that I got you right away. I mean, I just tried you once, and boom. Hey, Hannah, we appreciate you calling. I'm definitely trying to go get a lottery ticket.
Starting point is 02:56:36 But yeah, I'm Hannah from Iowa. My husband watches your show religiously, and in turn, I have watched your show for almost a year now. And I just want to let you know that you guys are absolutely amazing. Oh, Hannah. You're amazing. Oh, yeah. Hey, Pat. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:57:00 Hey, my son has a son, Sadia. What if he's a fatherless guy? Oh, yeah. Pat Smack. He said Pat Smack. Hey, my son has a son in the stadium. Oh, yeah. Pat Smack. He said Pat Smack. Hey, okay. How old's your son? He's five. Hell yeah. Well, congratulations on the beautiful
Starting point is 02:57:15 family. We appreciate you having to watch and then appreciating, I guess, after a certain amount of time. I believe that's called Stockholm Syndrome. But we appreciate the hell out of you, Hannah. certain amount of time. I believe that's called the... Stockholm Syndrome. But we appreciate the hell out of you, Hannah. You're the best. And I appreciate you guys coming on almost every day and just
Starting point is 02:57:32 bringing positive energy. It's a great way to start our day. Thank you, guys. Hell yeah. Kaylin Clark going to win? Kaylin Clark going to win this thing for Iowa or what? Oh, yeah. Hell yeah. Oh, yeah. Heck yeah. Five Hell, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:57:45 Heck, yeah. Heck, yeah. Heck, yeah. Five-year-old Hannah. Be a good mom. Jesus. All right, Hannah. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:57:51 Absolutely. That was cool. Thank you, Hannah from Iowa. Iowa. Classic. Iowa get Stockholm. Yep. Don't win Gacy.
Starting point is 02:58:00 Oh, I forgot he was from there. Oh, yeah. His captors weren't a fan of him. They were trying to stick around, Tony. Maybe. Yeah, I don he was from there. His captors weren't a fan of him. They were trying to stick around, Tony. Maybe. Yeah, I don't think so. Showing that Chicken Little's off. They were dead.
Starting point is 02:58:11 He is from Iowa, though. No, he's not. What'd you say about Chicken Little? I think it was KFC. It was KFC. He invented the KFC Chicken Little and then the Double Down. What city? Well, I don't know what city.
Starting point is 02:58:24 I mean, Waterloo is where he That's a county? A city? What is Waterloo? No, it's a fucking city. Where are you from? I'm from Waterloo. Wow. Whoa! John Wayne Gacy won man of the year there? Is that what you just said? He did. In Waterloo, Iowa? Because, hey, when you've never had a KFC
Starting point is 02:58:39 before and then you get fucking Colonel's original recipe, you know what? You're going to be able to turn some heads. And then he moved to Des Plaines, Illinois, right by Zito's hometown. He killed a whole bunch of people. Really? He didn't kill anybody in Waterloo. He went to jail, though. He did for being a sack of wine. Yeah, we caught that piece
Starting point is 02:58:56 of shit. Not like Iowa people. We did catch him and sent him upstate to Anamosa. And he built a golf course in the jail. He built a golf course and they let him out early. What? And that's Anamosa. I'm not from Anamosa. And he built a golf course in the jail. He built a golf course and they let him out early. What? And that's Anamosa. I'm not from Anamosa. Yeah, but it all started in Waterloo. Origin story.
Starting point is 02:59:12 By the way, for you keto guys, the double down is back. Yeah. Really? Wow. Okay. You know I've been doing a lot of Boston Market at night. Rotiss. Turkey sub. No. No, I'm not doing a turkey sub. Turkey sub and a lettuce wrap? Why not?
Starting point is 02:59:26 No, you're an idiot. Let's go to Lawrence in Marion, Indiana on the 5RNG phone line. Lawrence, what's going on, pal? Hey, what's going on, Pat? This is Lawrence Owen, the guy that you... Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Really?
Starting point is 02:59:40 I don't know if this is fake or not. I don't know if this is fake or not. True. No, this is not fake. Okay, shit. Appreciate you calling in, man. What's going on, pal? I just wanted to call and verbally on your show,
Starting point is 02:59:53 thank you and all the guys for what you guys have done for me and helping get my situation out. You and Brett Coleman did an amazing job of getting some exposure to that and helping me get everything paid and ready. And it's just an amazing thing. It brought me to tears, dude. So I appreciate it a lot. Hey, Lawrence, we appreciate you too, man.
Starting point is 03:00:21 Now, obviously a lot happened through the middle of all that, but I'm very appreciative of the situation to get a chance to learn about you, meet you, chat with you. I did not know you were calling in here today, if this is actually you, but we want to let you know it sucks the situation you're going through, and we are incredibly lucky to be in a position to help, and all Colts fans appreciate your service to the Indianapolis Colts, brother. Absolutely, and to prove it to me, the last thing you said to me was the universe is coming around
Starting point is 03:00:48 for you guys on the DM. That is what I, uh, hell yeah. Happy the universe is coming around for you. Yup. That is exactly what I said. All right, Lawrence. Hey man. Great chatting with you.
Starting point is 03:01:00 I'm sorry you're going through this. Sucks. Worst part of this life is whenever you have to lose somebody that you care about for you to have money stresses on top of that we're very lucky to help you thankful to help you and i'm happy i got a chance to meet you thank you lawrence i appreciate the hell out of you man that was really cool that's a great way to end the show too yeah full circle that was him that was the last thing hell yeah i said the universe is coming around began the show chatting about a situation in which i was called a horrible human being last that was the last thing. Hell yeah I said. Happy universe is coming around. Began the show chatting about a situation in which I was called a horrible
Starting point is 03:01:27 human being last night by a lot of people because of a mistake that I made in blocking a human instead of muting them. That's 100% my fault. But a silver lining was found in the case in which we brought a lot of light to a situation in which a guy was battling through a lot of bullshit that life can throw at you every once in a while. I'm
Starting point is 03:01:43 thankful that he called in. I'm thankful I got to know him. Appreciate him for serving the Colts community as much as he has. I've never met him before. Did not know him before this situation. Now I do. That's a plus. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 03:01:56 That's a good thing. And it sucks what he's going through. Happy we could be a part alongside of a lot of other people. I'm making life a lot better. Before we get out of here on these incredible vibes, I mean, I think it's time for Boss O'Connor to attempt to win 20 people $500. Had some people tweet me and say,
Starting point is 03:02:12 when will I be announced as a winner? Winner Wednesday is normally whenever everybody's announced winner. I believe since our deal with Cash App is no longer happening, we weren't able to pay. So yesterday, the deal with getting the money over whenever I texted it to the group, because I to pay. So yesterday the deal with getting the money over whenever I texted it to the group, cause I thought we had an immediate plug was getting the money to
Starting point is 03:02:30 through cash app. So we had to go through PayPal. There's now a go fund me for Lawrence to kind of be able to live his life without any financial stresses going through this incredibly difficult time of losing his father and everything else that could come alongside of that. So whenever you're announced winner, just know that we will reach out to you and you are certainly getting your money. But I think there's something going on with cash app right now where it's not making it as easy to send money over.
Starting point is 03:02:52 Hopefully that'll get fixed in the next couple of days. Yeah. Fingers crossed. Yeah. It's not us. We're not coding it. No, no,
Starting point is 03:02:57 no, no. It is hard to give money away to people too. It is. That's why our cash app deal is so awesome. But now we're open. Venmo, PayPal,
Starting point is 03:03:04 Venmo, PayPal, Cash App again. Apple Cash. Venmo, PayPal. Venmo, PayPal. Cash app again. Apple Cash. Yeah, Apple Pay. Banks are affecting them. Yeah, might be the case. Could be.
Starting point is 03:03:14 Shoot, could be the case. So maybe we'll just do 15 merchants here today so we don't have to worry about the potential. Is that what's going on, huh? Is that why? That'd be an easy excuse for any of these. Let me go to the for you tab and see stuff there yeah you're about to see four guys get knocked the fuck out yeah
Starting point is 03:03:31 right might see a video of a guy finding out his wife cheated on him i mean that for you page is just like abysmally crazy i mean it is you want to feel like shit go check out the for you page jesus christ anyway you talk about the video in the car in the parking lot in the drive-thru? I don't know about that one. You saw that one, I guess. That's the one you saw? This one was plugged to a fight. It was a thread to a fight.
Starting point is 03:03:53 Big fight thread with this one right underneath it on the For You, both of them. One full scroll is this account. Like, yep, got to see this whole thing. What are you talking about? An old buddy found his lady cheating on him in the car, in the act, with the food they just ordered sitting right there waiting for afterwards. It was a whole thing.
Starting point is 03:04:12 Jeez, poor guy. Where'd they order it from? Good question. I'm not sure what the restaurant was. Looked like some chicken, maybe. Don't search Cash App. What's going on? Is that my name on Twitter right now? What, everybody just crushing it?
Starting point is 03:04:26 No, no, no, no. What'd you see? What happened? What'd you see? I don't want to say what happened. What'd you see? You saw somebody get beat up? No.
Starting point is 03:04:37 It was bad? No. What happened? I know what it was. You definitely searched Cash App and there was some sort of dongs all over the place. Dong? Cash App dongs out there? Some woman was squirting milk out of her butt. I knew it.
Starting point is 03:04:52 I knew it. That was the milk. You don't have any answers, it sounds like. Try it again. Alright, we'll do 15 merches. 15 merches so we don't have to worry about that Cash App. We'll have it figured out by Wednesdaynesday i do believe hopefully they will um it's not on our end we will say that money's in escrow that's right just like uh that money is currently being
Starting point is 03:05:15 held in the middle of giving that is crazy to think about yeah what if that is a thing could be it not good there'sritos, by the way. They were having sex in the car. It was a bag of burritos. It had to smell amazing. That guy. Where was the video? What was the video?
Starting point is 03:05:39 Gumpy sent it to me. I don't think we can run it. No, no, no. Obviously. I do not want to run the For You page. But is this like a... How does how does the video make it what type of iphone dash cam what are we talking about that's what i'm saying like how do we get here no the guy the guy whose girlfriend it was runs up to the car and he's got his iphone and he's filming while talking to him finding out that she's cheating on him while she's sitting on the other guy's penis, basically. And that video made its way onto the internet publicly?
Starting point is 03:06:06 Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. That's some sort of law, I assume. I think there's a whole thing for that. That's what the For You page is. That's what it's becoming. Need to change it. Can't be having this happen.
Starting point is 03:06:17 Well, it could have been like an ad for Taco Bell or something. Burritos, you know, you never know. Crunchwrap Supremes are a real deal. Yeah. All right, let's do a 15-match. I'm not even going to let you. Okay, yeah. I'm not even going to let you take a swing.
Starting point is 03:06:29 Yeah, I saw you. I saw you getting ready to gear up there. All right, so what are we doing? You're doing a basketball shot? How many of them? What do you mean? Three. Okay, three of them.
Starting point is 03:06:40 Not including bonus balls. Not including bonus balls. So if you get a favorable rebound, you will take a bonus ball. And if you make it, 15 people win free merches from store.patmagfishow.com. Boston, Kana. What part of Mass? North Shore. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:07:00 Oh, my God. That would have been real smooth. Hey, that was a great shot. It looks good, yeah. Yeah, it looks very, very good. Boston Conner for 15 merches. Got it. Oh.
Starting point is 03:07:10 Wow. It always hits that sign. It's not a bonus ball. That was a broken sign. Doesn't matter. Oh. Bonus ball, bonus ball. You're running to grab it.
Starting point is 03:07:19 I mean, you're running to grab it. It was on its way back. There's another one. Oh, you kind of fucked that up. Slow bonus ball, slow bonus ball. Boston Conner for 15 merches. Man, you've been right on its way back. There's another one. Oh, you kind of fucked that up. Slow post ball. Boston Connor for 15 merches. Man, I've been right on it. That ball did roll towards you.
Starting point is 03:07:33 It did. Ladies and gentlemen, if Boston Connor can drain this shot, 15 people will win merch from store.patmcfyshow.com. We normally give away money, but for some reason, Cash App is currently holding a lot of our money in escrow, not being able to transfer it to the winners from last week. It'll hopefully get all fixed, but until then, 15 merch is on the line if the hero, the legend,
Starting point is 03:07:56 Boston Connor can bury a bucket. Oh, shit. Best attempt right there. All right, we'll be back tomorrow. A.J. Hawk will be back. I believe he's off vacation. It'll be great to chat with him.
Starting point is 03:08:11 A lot has happened. We'll continue to update everybody with what's going on signing-wise from the NFL. Big thanks to Rap for joining us. Big thanks to Adam Thielen for joining us. Shout-out to Lamar Jackson dropping a video this week at Lamar Jackson Entertainment I-775 YouTube. Congrats to Laramie Tanzel. Congrats to Brandon Cooks getting traded to the Dallas Cowboys.
Starting point is 03:08:31 Congrats to the Commanders allegedly going up for sale and Dan Snyder no longer being your owner. And congratulations to 5-Hour Energy continuing to be their greatest energy shot in the history of energy. Bud Light's delicious. Seat Geek is awesome. FanDuel is a great place to gamble right now for March Madness. And we'll see you tomorrow.
Starting point is 03:08:51 Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. I was getting slaughtered on the internet this weekend, taking it on the shins. As somebody who lives on the internet and doesn't have a team of people that run their internet, I am very much dialed in with the internet. I have to be for this program. I have to know what's going on, how it's going on, what's happening, what pisses everybody off. I'd like to say I apologize for bringing any negativity to anybody's life. That is not what we're trying to be here. We are just trying to be an outlet for optimism, hope, and positivity. We're a unifier. I think by a trait, we'll continue to do that all off season, which continues tomorrow. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. Goodbye.

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