The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 882 - Feel Good Friday With The Masters Coverage, Calvin Johnson, Dana White, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: April 7, 2023

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about what's going on at The Masters as Brooks Koepka has surged to the top of the pack and is leading the field, the news that Zion Williamson is likely out for the rest of the season with his hamstring injury, the few NFL stories that are floating around, and everything else happening in the sports world. Joining the progrum is Hall of Famer, 4x All-Pro, 6x Pro Bowler, one of the best WR to ever play in the NFL, Calvin Johnson, to chat about his company Primitiv and plant based medicine, his career in the NFL, what he's been doing since he retired, if his relationship with the Lions has been repaired, when he knew he wanted to get into the cannabis business, and much more (30:02-1:00:16). Later, President of the UFC, Dana White joins the show to chat about this weekend's UFC 287 event, why Miami feels different this time around for the UFC, the continued success with the Slap League, what's coming up for the UFC, and more (1:47:46-2:13:56). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people. Welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this Feel Good Masters of Golf Friday, April 7, 2023, sports program starts now. Feel Good! That was a lot of words. That was a lot of words. I was trying to figure out how I was going to balance it together because this is a different Feel Good Friday than any other Feel Good Friday. This is the Masters of Golf Feel Good Friday, where we have a great tournament happening down there in Augusta, Georgia. There are some big names at the top of the leaderboard.

We'll talk about that as the day rolls on. Allegedly supposed to be crazy storms. Guess what? DiNardo's dead. Nobody knows how to read the weather. The weather is perfectly fine down there in Augusta. Should be a fantastic day, too. Following a fantastic day one, five rounds

of 67 or less were shot yesterday. Six in the entirety of the tournament last year were shot. So the boys are buzzing. The boys are playing. And an amateur named Sam Bennett is stealing the show. He's a zinner, a zinosaur, a zinosaurus

rex. He is a guy who's out of Texas A&M. He's ranked 46th in points for college golf. He's the number six amateur in the world, won the U.S. Amateur Championship, gets to play in the Masters. This fucker goes bananas on the Masters course yesterday. He's in like sixth place right now, drained a birdie literally to start today. He's going to continue to go and be in a fantastic tale about having an opportunity seizing it and making the most of it all the while having an incredible

tattoo on his left forearm which was the last note that his father said to him before his dad passed away from like early onset alzheimer's so and it's his actual handwriting. And it's right there on his forearm. And it says, like, don't wait to do something. Perfect messaging for an amateur playing at the Masters, especially coming from his dad. He's been balling. I've enjoyed getting to know about him. But the Masters of golf is always electrifying,

and this year is no different. There's also some NFL stories that we have to put a cap on for the week. We'll be joined by Calvin Johnson in about 25 minutes or so. Obviously, Calvin Johnson is that Calvin Johnson, the guy who had punt coverage on him whenever he was

playing wide receiver for the Detroit Lions. Hell yeah. Wow. The old Detroit Lions, not the brand new Lions. The old Detroit Lions. He'll be new Lions. The old Detroit Lions. He'll be joining us here in about 25 minutes to chit chat about his company, Primitive Elevated Wellness, which is combining a cannabis company that he's a part of and a wellness brand to make magical stuff that has like CBD, electrolytes, trying to make the world a better place, which is what Calvin Johnson has done literally since the day he came onto the scene at Georgia Tech, where he was bigger, stronger, faster and better than everybody. I think he built like a well

system or something like that. Calvin Johnson's like a guy. Calvin Johnson is a legend. He'll be joining us in 25 minutes. And Dana White will join us in the third hour. Massive weekend for the UFC. Izzy is back in the octagon fighting against an old rival, Mr. Pereira, who has beat him four straight times. Right? Is that what the number was? I believe so, yeah. Three straight times?

This will be the fourth time? This will be the fourth, I think. Okay, so two times in a previous promotion, kickboxing or something like that, beat Izzy. Obviously, Adesanya is the greatest athlete of all time. Style Bender is how he was being chatted about. He lost to Pereira in their first fight In the UFC here, they fought before

Just in November, this is a rematch For the title, will be the main event down in Miami That will also have Street Jesus Jorge Masvidal Battling against It's on the tip of my tongue Gilbert Burns There it is

Gilbert Arenas was almost fighting in the UFC tomorrow in my head. That would be sweet. That is literally how the name popped. Gilbert popped in my head. The reason why they are such a good storyline that we can talk to Dana about is because when he made the announcement that it don't matter how this goes. Kobe Covington's getting the next shot at the title with Leon Edwards. There's a lot of boo, boo.

He's down in Miami. That's Jorge City, though. I mean, it's going to be an electrifying atmosphere. Can't wait to see what Dana White's predicting, projecting, and thinking about going into another massive one. And are they still doing that? The slapping? Oh, yeah.

They're still slapping. That's still going on? I think so. Da, ta, ha. Yeah. Fingies locked. Wah. You got 30 seconds

That's all my fingers just thought Alright Stand up Here we go You good? Yeah Hell yeah Hell yeah

Alright here we go I don't think I feel good still Oh no he didn't go down Alright Oh shit My turn again I don't think I feel good still. Oh, no, he didn't go down. All right. My turn again. Don't flinch. Don't flinch.

Oh, he's locked up. That's what it is. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Is that the whole thing? We've only seen the clips. And obviously, this is a clips contest. That's what this was made for. Right? Yeah. Is that the whole thing? We've only seen the clips. And obviously, this is a clips contest. That's what this was made for.

This was made for clips on the internet. Dana has been very open about that. Like, our social media action is this. The digital footprint is this. We're competing against other people. We're beating everybody in the numbers. It's like classic internet content. People getting smacked right in the mouth and locking up.

Yeah. Golly, though. That's a lot of them, though, coming out of one place. It's like classic internet content. People getting smacked right in the mouth and locking up. Yeah. Golly, though. That's a lot of them, though, coming out of one place. I mean, it's hard not to laugh every time you see the guy doing the squaring up. And just waiting for it. Boom! We've been seeing those for a long time on the internet. Now, normally

they're coming out of like Russia or Eastern Europe. And there'd be some little tiny fuck and then there was some massive fuck and I was like well we all know what's going to happen. There's no way this is what's going to happen as we're watching it and then all of a sudden lo and behold, yep exactly what we thought was going to happen. The big bear

of a fuck smacks Paul Mitt through little tiny head. Little tiny head disappears out of the shot. Dead. Now it's a sport. People are making money. Oh yeah. It crushes. People are making good money off of this. right dead now it's a sport people are making money oh yeah it crushes people are making good money off of this that's right you know a lot of things are happening i guess that's the the positive yeah you know what i mean like people are making a living out of it people are signing up for it we'll ask dana if it's still going i

assume it is also the ultimate fighter what's going on with uh chandler and connor gregor they're gonna fight or what? Are they going to fight up there at 225? What are we going to do? How are we going to figure it out? We'll talk to Dana about that. AJ Hawk will join us. And also your phone call is at 1-833-432-3663.

That's the 5-hour energy phone line. 1-833-4-DADOM! Should be a fantastic feel-good Friday. We're very thankful that you're here. The Talks at the Table is here as well. At Boston Connor. At Ty Schmidt. One half of the hammer.

Dad. Cowboys 10 Diggs is here. Obviously, Pac-Man's been with us the last three days. Went to the Future Concert last night. Yeah, he did. Yeah, he went to the Future Concert here in Indianapolis. I didn't know if any of the boys went. At Evan Fox, he didn't go.

At Viva Luzito, didn't go. Nick Moraldo in the back did not go. Dirty's in the back. He did not go. Bruce, we thought he didn't go. At Viva Lozito, didn't go. Nick Moraldo in the back did not go. Dirty's in the back, he did not go. Bruce, we thought maybe he could go, but he had to get to bed because this morning there was a new Drake song out. It's a vibe, bruh. You know what I mean? There's no chance that he could go to that Future concert last night because Future concert

will lead to a little bit more afterwards, and then all of a sudden he's a little late on the search and rescue out of Drake. So Bruce wasn't going to allow that to happen. We did have somebody that went last night, and obviously that's Mitt, and Mitt is currently answering the phone, so he's a little bit behind. But Mitt went and paid a shit ton of money to go watch Future last night, and there was certainly a lot of music played last night.

Oh, yeah. Not a lot by Future, though. Really? No, not as much. I guess it was a quick in and out out of future. The other guy, you know, he did his whole set list. We were not there.

Mitt had a fantastic time. But the way it sounded like is Mitt was like, G Herbo was Don Toliver was the guy. And then it was like, he played all his hits. And then he left. Yeah,, he played all his hits. Played all his hits.

And then he left. I think Mitt was hoping for more future last night. I'm guessing everyone who paid to go see future last night was hoping for more future last night. But it's only bangers only. It might have been because he was catching up with Pac-Man. There's a chance that Pac-Man

is the reason that he did not play because Pac and Fuge, I do believe, were having a little rendezvous last night at the concert. So that would be a rather hilarious development of the whole thing. But we'll ask Pac-Man about that on Tuesday whenever he rejoins us on stage. And shout out to Mitt living his best fucking life. Let's dive into some NFL stories that are kind of going on.

Let's talk about the Masters first. Let's. Let's just go ahead and dive into it. Right now, Brooks Koepka of Liv is currently in a commanding lead. Had an incredible eagle earlier, a couple birdies, pars. Everything seems to fall. He won a Liv golf tournament last week. And if you watch that Netflix Drive to Survive golf thing,

Brooks Koepka thought he was never going to be able to win golf again. Almost had, I don't want to say the yips, but kind of mentally just was down on himself. Didn't think he was the same Brooks Koepka. When you watch that, you almost feel bad for Brooks Koepka, but you also get the easy understanding

of why he took a hundred and some million dollars. At that particular time, the guy thought he was never going to win golf again. Then when he finds it yet again, happens to be what? One week before the fucking Masters where everybody's going to be there and the Super Bowl of golf is taking place. What perfect timing for Brooks Koepka to get hot, find his swing, find his confidence. Seems like that's where he's at.

Brooks Koepka might win this fucking thing. He's doing it right now. Yeah, he was awesome yesterday. Tied seven under yesterday with Hovland and Rombo Bombo, who have not gone off yet. Skepka might win this fucking thing. He's doing it right now. Yeah, he was awesome yesterday. Tied 7-under yesterday with Hovland and Rombo Bombo, who have not gone off yet today. And then Brookie Cook, he came out this morning. He was 4-under, I believe, through 14.

And I believe he just got on in two in the par 5 15th. So I think he's got an eagle putt on 15 coming up here to extend his lead before the other leaders go off this afternoon. Where's Whammy Sammy Bennett bennett he is uh five under wow for the tournament wow i believe okay really what about pander for zander where's he uh listen i didn't make up brookie cookie everybody calls him brookie. Everybody calls him that, too. What about Whammy Sammy? Nobody calls him that. We don't know. He's an amateur.

We never heard of the guy. Gary Wary Woodland? I mean, how's he doing? He's so hit or miss. I like the way he plays. Yeah. Oh, Scary Gary. That's right.

Vicious Victor. What time does he tee off, Tony? Why don't you shut the fuck up? Whoa, whoa, whoa. I believe they're, uh, the Rom and Hovland go off around like 1-ish, 1-2-ish. That's when the storms will be coming around 3, 4 o'clock. Oh, tough time. Stormy warmies. Oh, no.

Oh, bummer. You did just back-to-back with the names. Had to. So it was hard not to only focus on that. But it was a stacked and packed leaderboard. Right now, Brooks Koepka, Jason Day, obviously we know him, Rom, Victor Hovland, everybody that we know is pretty much at the top of this playing good golf.

That's what these majors are going to be, and obviously the Super Bowl of golf, the Masters of golf, having them perform this well is great news for all parties. Yeah, Scotty Scheffler was up there 400 yesterday. He's won over today, not playing as well today. Giorno Spieth was 300 yesterday. Even put two balls in the water. I think he's 200 today. Morikawa was 300 for the day.

It's happening again today. That's the leaderboard you want to see. Morikawa's cheating though. I mean, this guy's moving his ball. That's not true. What? Yeah, the internet tried to fucking bury Colin Morikawa. I saw it. He moved his ball closer. No, they took the clip out of context. At that point, where the coin was was not where the ball originally was.

He was trying to steady that ball in that green, which I have been told could be a little bit difficult. Makes sense. You know, we looked into it. Those greens can roll pretty quick sometimes. You got a little breeze coming through there. Also, sitting on the edge of something could be a little difficult. He just threw his coin down willy-nilly while he was trying to keep his ball in one spot. You got a little breeze coming through there. Also, sitting on the edge of something could be a little difficult. He just threw his coin down willy-nilly while he was trying to keep his ball in one spot.

And then as soon as the ball was in his spot, guess what he did? Boom. Marked it. Here we go. This is where we're supposed to be. They were trying to kill this man. They were? He said, I don't cheat.

What do you think I am? Kick him off the tour. Yeah. That's what people were saying. Do it. No. We just literally said why. He's a liar. He's not lying. Allegedly, there's only one cheater on tour, Connor, and it's not Colin Morikawa. one. He's a liar. He's not lying.

Allegedly, there's only one cheater on Tor Conner, and it's not Colin Morikawa. Yeah, it's Fats Reed, allegedly. Whoa. Whoa. Cheater. I mean, we heard it yesterday. Don't sue us.

Don't sue us. Shout out to the Chris Vernon Show. Oh, Verno. He has 1.3 million views as of two minutes ago. No, I'm sorry, 30 minutes ago on his Masters update video, which has almost become a part of the Masters. Oh, yeah. In our world, definitely.

I don't know how many other people. I look forward to, and that's what's going on in Augusta every single year. This dude's a fucking genius. Yesterday, whenever he found out that Kevin Na withdrew, and then he said, Kevin said, nah. Brilliant. Oh, yeah.

Whenever he found another word to rhyme with Shoffley, the full celebration, warranty. Unreal. We are big fans of this guy, and Brooks just had another birdie here. I mean, Brooks is cooking. Come on. Brookie Cookie is cooking in the kitchen of augusta georgia so congrats all the golfers putting on a show and congrats to the masters having the only coverage at masters.com

and it being the greatest app maybe ever existing it has not had one flub nope no there is no ads no freezing it's like 4k it is like the best one of the best viewer experiences i've had on an app yeah obviously the masters haven't figured out Foxy. Yeah, no, it's incredible. Yesterday, I was just going through it. Roy McIlroy, why did he play so bad? Oh, double bogey, and then I got to see each shot and why he double bogeyed like this. It's such good internet, too, you know?

I wonder if they're trying to sell it. I don't know. It's been like that for a while. Yeah, for almost 10-plus years, probably. How come every app's not like that, though? It's such an incredible app. How come every golf course isn't as well manicured? It's like when you look at this, it's like these motherfuckers are the best at everything it appears.

And the people that are talking about them, it's ridiculous the people that talk about how good the Masters is. It's like every human that has experienced pretty much every fucking good thing is always like Augusta is the place right i wonder why is it attention to detail is it execution is it's almost like there's something else afoot here yeah and something out of this world maybe i agree with nick and maybe not even out of this world maybe more so in the world nick of augusta but i mean they just take it more seriously i assume like a bunch of lizards yeah no, no lizards. Yeah, it's different down there for sure, Tony, I'd say. Pat, those people that say that, though, they've obviously been to Augusta.

Were they the one that potentially got you that new hat you're wearing? I've never seen you wear that hat before. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This hat was a gift. This hat was a gift, obviously. This hat was a gift. This hat was a gift. This ball was a gift. Whoa!

Whoa! Had this yesterday. Nobody noticed. That's right. Yeah! Had this yesterday. Nobody noticed. That's right. Yeah, this is a this is an Augusta football. It's a great gift. Thank you for this gift, whoever got it for me. You're the best. Shedding!

Hoot! Shedding! Wee! It's old school football. Nice leather. Just like Bobby Jones and Clifford Roberts wanted it. The founders of Augusta National that has one of the greatest wine cellars in the history. Oh, yeah?

That's what they are. They're reporting it. Yeah. That has been reported by somebody. Per Joe Pompliano, I believe. Talking about it. Absolutely. I've heard it's a beautiful place.

That's what Joe Pompliano was talking about. Yeah. Pom knows everything about it. They say I've heard it's a beautiful place. That's what Joe Pompliano was talking about. Yeah. Pom knows everything about it. They say people sit down at that, this is just obviously what I said, 10, 11 bottles of wine just like, yeah. Just crushing. That's what I've heard, yeah. I've heard of that place. Just a fantastic

experience, what I've been told. I could see that. Did Pompliano say anything about how much of this wine? Is it just all underneath the gusto, or is it an unlimited wine cellar? How does it work? I don't know. That is an interesting... What did Pompliano all say? It was 30 pages to choose

from of their wine cellar, which is a lot of pages of wine. Okay, so that's the menu. Sure. Yeah. Pompliano reported nothing about the actual wine cellar itself. Not that I saw. I said it was just beautiful. Okay, yeah, I just heard it was beautiful.

Okay. Heard it was beautiful. That might have been on Golf Digest. All right, let's talk about, you know, kind of fighting through some things. Okay. Of course. I just want to let everybody know I have strained my popliteus. Yep.

My popliteus. My popliteus. The platypus muscle. My popliteus muscle, which is right in the back of the left knee now. So if you see me moving today, oh, a little gingerly, it's because my popliteus right here in the back of my

left knee got strained yesterday during some Thunderball. Now, I choose to wear some new shoes yesterday. That was because those other shoes I knew would come and go.

You know, I was running them hard. Oh, yeah. It was almost time to get a new pair of Thunderball shoes. Oh, yeah. So I got a new pair.

I shouldn't have done that. My fucking papyliity is just... Just on fire. Yeah, just couldn't handle it. Just full on aching. Had to get the game

ready out last night. Had to get the game ready out last night. Had to do the whole thing. Wife, eight months pregnant, mocking my mobility around the house. What kind of shoes did you have? I had some Nike runners on. They were runners shoes. And I don't know if

they were ready for Thunderball. I think it was for if I was just running straight. They looked like nice shoes. They were. They felt good, too. To be honest, I don't know. There's your papillitis. It's in the back there, you know, so you could actually feel it. It's kind of the thing that connects

obviously your hamstring to your calf. Very important muscle. It touches a lot of things, too, if you look around there. There's a ligament in there. There's a strain in there. Yeah, my papillomius right now, a little bit strained because of Thunderball. So sometimes you just got to battle through some stuff. I did miss Thunderball this morning, though, first time.

Not happy about it. We missed you. It wasn't the same. Boy, I want to let you guys know on Monday. Okay, I'm back. Is that what the doctor's saying? Is that what the doctor's saying? Are you cleared?

Two days. That's what I heard. Is that not what we heard? That's what we heard doctor's saying? Are you cleared? Two days That's what I heard, right? Is that not what we heard? That's what we heard I'd expect nothing less Thank you Should be alright You're not a big fatso

So you should be good You're in great shape Yeah, it's not like there's an organization That's actually going to keep you out here I'm not in like the greatest of shape Okay, but I am in okay shape You put me in one of those wrestling rings though Next to some of those guys

Logan Paul has a 14-pack. Did you see that guy? Austin Theory, terrible guy. Terrible guy. Freaking sucks. Shredded. Everybody over there is just absolutely strapped. Even The Miz.

Even The Miz, he's got to be near 60 years of age at this point. Just absolutely shredded. So I appreciate you saying that. I would like to start my fitness journey yet again here, but I'm being held up by my papyrus. So I'm going to get that thing better. I'm going to be back on Monday

and you guys are in some shit. I might have been told by the person I talked to that taught me the name of the papyrus that this was a 7-10 day thing. And then I talked to that taught me the name of the Popliteus that this was a 7-10 day thing. And then I need to... Oh, so you're out next week. He doesn't understand, though, that

the morning Thunder Bowl, boys, don't take 7-10 days. No, no, no. Who has that time? That's a different organization. So I got a massive weekend. He will rise and come at some point this weekend. Got family that I'll be able to see. Tonight I'll be able to hang out and sleep and rest

with the Y. I mean, I'm back Monday morning like nothing ever happened. You need to know that. Yeah, I hope so, but what happens if you come out here and your propriety sacks up and then you're out 14 to 21 days? You want that to happen? What does this guy say? Can't have that. Thunderball will die without you. I'll just be

honest. It will die without you. No, I'll be here. Your papal piety has to get it together. Tell that knee to get it together. Let's give him Toradol that day. Is there water in your pool right now? Toradol would be the right play here. Is there water in your pool right now?

Yeah. Okay, head from your sauna to that pool. I assume it is heated, but it's probably a little chilly right now. No, yeah, the wife is in charge of the pool. She put that thing set to 98 degrees. Perfect. So we got a big hot tub and a little hot tub. Okay.

That's awesome. Should be pretty expensive. But water, you know, it helps with the whole being pregnant. Are you worried that you're going to be slower and not as good at Thunderball anymore? Listen, I'm coming back better than ever, they said. That's what my popularity is. This ain't Tommy John. Listen, off the back of better than ever, they said. That's what my papal deus is. This ain't Tommy John.

Of the back of the leg. I don't know. Come back better after three days or seven to ten days? The papal deus is going to heal. Listen, I talked to a wise man yesterday. Who's that? Paul Heyman? No. Well, I would talk to Paul and he would probably say something similar. Shout out to Paul, the maestro of the microphone.

Another person, similar profession as the wise man. And he had to go through a procedure. He had to go through. Popliteus? No, no, no. It has nothing to do with the popliteus.

Okay. But just the body as a whole. He had to go through a procedure on his body, okay, yesterday. Godspeed. He knows who he is. And I said to him, I said, said You know how long has this been happening What do you had to get fixed he was like It's been like a couple years but

You know the doc tells me I have like a vitamin C Deficiency I go okay sounds good I tell my body we're making more Vitamin C now fucking take We don't need your supplements You got an iron deficiency no problem Let me tell my body fucking start making A little bit more iron I'll start focusing On it now my body will take care of it he said it's the first time that his

body just didn't fucking take care of it okay had to do the surgery he'll be out like a week or two i'm a similar as he was laying out that whole thing i'm like man my fucking dumb arrogant selfish cocky ass has done the same thing like Like, hey, you got a problem with your blah, blah, blah. You should probably do this. Okay, cool. Let me tell my body. All right, let me just tell my body to go ahead and fix that. So what I'm saying is I've talked to my papilloteus.

The papilloteus on the left leg knows Monday's the deadline. And if it doesn't get it fixed, I'm worried I've lost it. Like this man who talked to me yesterday is very worried about losing everything. So I just kind of would like to keep that all in touch. So if I'm not out here on Monday, maybe ask me how I'm doing. Because I'm probably going to be

going through some tough times instead of the normal bullying that you normally do. Alright, absolutely. How did that conversation go with the papayas? Was it receptive or was it a little worried? You tell me. You see it right now. What did I do yesterday?

What was I doing yesterday? That's my point. Yesterday, you were, you know, wheeling around in that wheelchair like you really were relying on today. Now, this guy today. Papayas. Papayas. But I'm just saying, what did the papayas say? Because I know what you're saying, but I want to know what the bodies were said.

Listen, I shouldn't drop my troughs right now. I'll tell you what. I just shaved the back of my leg to put this heat patch on. I saw that. I also saw you try and bend over and pick something up. Like the Shaq Icy Hut patch? Boom. Yeah.

I shaved the papayas area to put that thing on there. Smart. Not easy to shave the back of the knee. You know, I used to shave the whole body a lot just because. Started in soccer because I would potentially every once in a while, like, oh, boom, sorry about it, you know, asshole on the field. And then I played against some French kids, and they started pulling my hair.

My leg, I'm like, ooh. Don't love that. Good move. Yeah. That was a good move. Did they say, oh, we need this? Yeah. What's that?

The hair. No, no. What? They tried to rip it off you and put it on their body. No. No, the French are hairy. They just tried to make my leg miserable. Wee-wee.

Especially their armpits. So I literally said, that ain't ever happened to me again. So I just started shaving my whole body. Smart move. Yeah, started looking cool too. Are you sure you don't want to ease your way into this? Maybe go like 0-1-1 and then maybe go doubles and then go 50% singles and then maybe ramp yourself up to 100%.

We do have an update on Zion Williamson that we'll be doing in the second hour and I am not happy about it. Just know that our Zion Williamson update is one that is not going to be good for those of us that are massive Zion Williamson fans, which I am as well. Sean Shirani of Brooks News earlier. We'll talk about that in the second hour. Let's talk about some things happening around the NFL. We've seen Aaron Rodgers coming out of Topanga Rocks.

Small bag, little Buddhist behind him. Chose not to buy that. Did buy something that fit in a tiny little paper bag that is recyclable. Because at Topanga Rocks, we're making the world a better place, not a worse place. Now, New York Post captured those photos. I don't know if they paid more than TMZ did to the pops that were sitting outside of Topanga Rocks. I'd assume that particular rock store has a lot of celebs coming in and out. Those rocks with a full moon around, you know that it's going to be a busy season.

It was basically Black Friday for Topanga Rocks with a blue moon on the horizon in a couple weeks and a pink moon last night. So you're talking about a busy place for people that believe in those types of things and practice that type of stuff. Aaron Rodgers was there. A lot of people wondered, is Aaron Rodgers getting better right now? What's Aaron doing? Is he staring at the whales out there of his house in Malibu,

watching them either fuck or give birth? We haven't been given an answer on what it is yet. Whenever you're whale watching, what they're actually doing, Aaron doesn't even know what the thing is aaron's getting after it yeah aaron has not been traded to the jets just yet and jeremy fowler reported this morning that it's all because of contingency picks for the next couple years depending upon how long aaron rogers plays that'll get figured out they're saying the packers and jets have an agreement there is just future contingency picks that need to get sorted because they don't know how long Aaron Rodgers will be playing

Aaron Rodgers getting after it with who former teammate and and Alan Lazard is now he's in New York football yeah and his future teammate oh my god working out right now doing stuff physically so not only is he working with his rocks and spiritually, emotionally, not only is he watching the whales do their thing, he's busting his ass with Alan Lazard. Alan Lazard, they're playing tag. Look how much fun they're having. Let's have fun playing football again is what Alan Lazard said

and what Aaron said. And then they did their little handshake afterwards that they do after throwing touchdowns to each other. And now they're just preparing to be the best football players they could possibly be for the New York Jets whenever a deal is done. Ty, whenever you see two old friends gathering like this and having the time of their life, you can't help but be happy for them. It looks like they're enjoying life more than they've ever enjoyed.

Ain't that right, Ty? You know, I actually don't have any malice. Like I said, I'm kind of over and done with. Neither one of these guys are Packers anymore, so either you can bitch and moan about that fact, or you can look at it and say, hey, you know what? Two former Packer greats

are enjoying their time together. These guys are still buddies, and they're looking forward to the next chapter of their careers. Which Packers fans should look forward to the next chapter of our team's next run. But, yeah, you love to see it. I mean, people were kind of worried, hey, Rodgers, he's shopping for rocks. He's doing all this other bullshit. He's drinking.

Bullshit. Yeah. I mean, I'm not saying I said that. I'm saying a lot of people are saying, what's this bullshit this guy's doing? Oh, okay. And his flip-flops on gravel. It probably hurt his toes. He might have hurt his toes.

Tough feet. Good to know, though. COVID. Guy hasn't lost it. Okay? He's not going to go a couple weeks without, you know, throwing the pigskin or, you know, getting a nice little workout in. He's going to be ready to go whenever this thing goes through.

Jets fans should be very excited about that. What do you think he said to Alan Lazard there, Connor? What are we laughing about? Gotcha! Big Apple! I assume it was something like, hey, Alan, I got you a really cool gift. It's in a shoebox and then he opens the box and it's one of those tiny rocks from

Topanga. Just kidding. It's just a rock. I know you hate rocks. What if that was a rock that Alan Lazard always wanted? You know what I mean? So he was just trying to hug him and Aaron's like, I'm just being a good friend. And Alan Lazard's like, get over here, man! Is that what's going on?

Probably a new prosperity rock for him going from one team to another. He needs different rocks. The lighting and sun and moon is much different in Green Bay than it is New York, so he needed a new set of rocks and Aaron was nice enough to give him that. Okay, wearing the pandas, dude. I mean, look at the knee drive on Aaron. Still got it.

Remember, he's still got a little bit of wiggle. A lot of people call him washed. They're Packers fans. But then those same people are going to be pissed off for the lack of what you got in draft picks on the other side. Guy's terrible. We didn't get enough for him. Two different things that some people will be fighting for

over in the Packers fan base. But I've seen Jordan Love thrown with Aaron Jones. That's right. They looked unbelievable. This might be a win-win-win for all parties. Very rarely do you get to see that. I'm excited for everybody in the next step. Now, if the Jets do bad, Aaron will be judged for all this very, very heavily.

Oh, yeah. And we talked to a Jets fan yesterday, and that Jets fan off air was incredibly negative. He said, I'm hearing about all the weapons we have and how good our team is and how good Aaron Rodgers is. We're the fucking Jets, dude. Exactly. What is Aaron going to do whenever we're 1-9 for whatever reason? It's like, whoa, dude. That is a negative attitude.

We need to get you some fucking rocks, bro. Charge him from the full moon. Let's go ahead and turn this thing around. If he goes on and has success, he's going to be judged accordingly for that. And just like the Packers. How many years should they be given? That's a big question. At least two, I think, with Jordan playing football for the first time, really, this

year. And Guti getting a chance to see his whole team for the first time. I'll be excited to see three years from now how we judge it all. Joining us now is a man that we all judge the exact same way. This dude was a fucking dog! An absolute stallion on the football field for Georgia Tech and then

to Detroit Lions. First ballot Hall of Famer even though we all believe we were robbed of getting to see him play football for as long as he definitely could have. Former Detroit Lion. Now, one of the founders of primitive and primitive elevated wellness making the world a better place. Ladies and gentlemen, Calvin Johnson. Hey, what up, fellas?

Hey, how are you, man? Living good? Good, Pat. How you doing, man? I'm good, man. I see you all the time. You look good. Hey, thank you. You look good too, dude. You working out still? We still in... What did you play at and where are you at now and will this be what you are forever i played at like right at 240 i'm like right at 230 right now and i'll probably be 225 to 230 that's probably where i'm at when you retired uh that's me too we look differently uh whenever uh you retired obviously everybody wanted you to

still play did you work out as if you could potentially go back for an extended period of time after you retired? Or did you flip the switch, move on completely? I'm retired, Calvin Johnson now. Man, I knew the day that I retired, man. I worked my ass off. I knew when I retired, I was going to go sit on my couch and enjoy it. That didn't last long because we're so used to being structured and whatnot. So I got back into it, I was going to go sit on my couch and enjoy it. You know, that didn't last long because, you know, we're so used to being structured and whatnot.

So, you know, I got back into it. You know, I stay active. I live an active life. You know, snowboard season is coming to an end now, sadly. But so now I was trying to get, you know, get ready for golf. You shred Powell? Dude, you shred Powell out there? You go.

Bro, I was in Park City a week or two ago, last week, I think. And we had like a foot and a half of snow. It was like just shy of my knees. It was beautiful. Did you do that your whole life or did you get into it once you got retired? Yeah, I wasn't doing nothing on ice while I was playing. I'm from the South, man. So we don't do nothing on ice, man.

And so my wife, though, she's from Michigan. She got me skiing right after I retired. And I switched over to snowboard probably like a year after skiing. How come? I like being locked in. I don't like having my legs because, you know, if one leg can hit something, that one ski can hit something that the other doesn't. And you don't want this little motion right here with your leg because that just goes up to your knee, which is terrible for the knees.

Yeah, your papillotius. Yeah, the knees. Yeah, you're papilloteous. Yeah, the muscle in the back, the papilloteous could definitely kind of rattle. Are you good? You're like a good snowboarder, you would say, I assume with how incredibly athletic you are. If you're focused on something, you're going to be good at it. Are we hitting half pipes? Are we doing trails? What are we

doing whenever we're getting out there? Yeah, I'm not doing half pipes. I ain't trying to fall on that ice, man, but I do ramps. I do ramp ramps i don't do any rails when i'm in the park i do ramps i just like to get air uh i'm not i've seen too many people fall on those rails and get carted off that thing so i'm good on that hold on are you doing like mctwisties out there is hold on there's a chance you go to park city i look up on a mountain and this fucking giant is on a snowboard and then you're jumping and then landing and then going down

getting in that line doing the fucking this thing and then right back into the seat right back up there. That's happening right now? That is happening, man. That is awesome. I'm so happy you're having a blast. That sounds like a great time. Holy shit. This is you right I'm so happy you're having a blast. That sounds like a great time. Holy shit. Snowboarding's awesome. This is you right here?

Or are you recording? Just shredding. How do you get that? It's from your Instagram. That's like a couple years ago. Yeah, that's old. I have to get you some new stuff. But that's at Park City, actually. You know, that's good. Hey, so you go straight from snowboard

season to golf season. How's the golf game? Really good? I'm hitting 80s. I'm going to say that I'm like 85 to 90. So I'm going to go, you know, 13 handicap, 15 handicap. What's the best part of your game? I'm trying to keep it.

Best part of my game, I would say like 100 in right now. That's like the hardest part, right? Yeah. Yeah, 100 in. I'm good in my short game. I got to get that intermediate. I got to get like 175, 200. I got to lock that down.

If I can lock that down, I think I can get consistently under 90, like stay in the 80s, get in the low 80s and break 80. That's the next goal is to break 80. You watching the Masters? You a big golf fan? Man, you know it. I just flew up here from Georgia yesterday, so I was down there, and it's Masters fever down there.

You were out on the grounds? No, I wasn't on the grounds. Heck no. Oh, no. I'll stay in Atlanta when I'm down there, but it's just everybody down there has a Masters hat on, Masters flag is waving everywhere, so everybody's ready for it. Golf season has been full of faith.

Calvin, that's hilarious. How tall are you again? 6'5". Dude, on a snowboard, 6'5", and then fucking on a golf course. Inside 100 yards, throwing darts. That's the hardest part, inside the 100 yards. Sounds like you're going to take it over, just like you took over football whenever you got involved.

Obviously, whenever we played you in the first half half i think you had like two touchdowns maybe 15 receptions in the gated bowl and then the second half they didn't throw you the ball again and it was awesome we won crazy one yeah it was awesome it was amazing we none of us understood what was going on but we weren't going to mention a thing we're just going to let that get paid yeah i had to have had to have let's talk about you in primitive, elevated business. Okay, so I know you got into cannabis, right? You own a cannabis company. Is that right?

Correct. Correct. So is it Grow House? Is it the full operation? How'd you get involved? And how hands-on are you? Yeah, man. So shortly after I retired a year or so after, I got into real estate with Rob Sands. He was already doing it. He retired a year before me. We had some success. And timing-wise, the industry came on. I think it went recreational in 19, maybe 18 or 19. And we had the opportunity to get involved. And so we dove in because we're passionate about cannabis.

We use cannabis while we play. But, you know, I truly felt that there, you know, there was more to it than obviously, you know, how heavily stigmatized it is being over however long. So really just trying to, you know, highlight the healing powers of the plant. We dove in, we started and got our cultivation license first, then went up then went on and got a processing manufacturing license. And then we opened up, got a retail license, making us complete our full vertical in 21, the end of 21. So it was definitely a journey. It's been up and down to starting a business. But now, man, we're five, going on six years in. And, you know, we are, we're starting to see some fruits from all the work that we put in, you know, and can't nobody, you know, come in here and tell

us, you know, from our team or whatnot, you know, we can't do this, you know, this is too hard or whatnot, because, you know, we've done everything from the ground up, you know, we've done everything from sweep the floors, cut the plants, you know, check out customers, you know, you know, just trying to serve, you know, and bring that servanthood to our team and showing them, you know, if you serve the people that you're around, you know, we can't help but to grow together. Hell yes, you're real hands on. It sounds like you're real hands on. It's not easy either. The licensing part of it all is a massive ordeal.

There's some shit coming out of some states on how people are getting some licenses, and obviously, anytime you get politics involved in anything, there's going to be some corruption, but that's not an easy process at all, let alone the fact that it's not federally legal, so you can't use federal banks, because there's a chance that they can just ice up your money, freeze up your money, because federally,

they'll be able to do that, which is a part of the whole conversation, I think, in the next couple steps that are going to take place. You being in there since the beginning is smart you might be the next fucking marlboro man whenever you know this whole thing goes calvin it's a good business to get into i'm a firm believer in the cannabis plant and everything that it brings you said we used to smoke whenever we played or whatever but it was kind of stigmatized i've given a much higher percentage of guys that I think smoke in the NFL than most others.

Have you done that yet? And what are your thoughts on it? You mean like the percentage of the guys throughout the NFL that smoke like 75, 80, something like that you're talking about? Yes, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I'll say when I played, I would have said that, you know,

60% of guys are either consuming or have used. Now, I would say that's probably closer to 80%, if not more. I agree. I mean, by this time, I mean, honestly, it could be 90% that have used, maybe not currently using, but have used and ain't using. I think that could be like 85% plus currently. I think so, too. I think as more states are becoming legal, too,

it's just becoming more common conversation i'm in california at my hotel and i just go on to an app and i get two boxes of pre-rolls some edibles and some flour delivered to the hotel in a tesla in like perfect wrapping and then i'm able to like tip the person, and then boom, I'm off and running. It's like in some states, it is just like you're ordering from fucking Applebee's. And then in other states, if you accidentally get pulled over with something, man, see ya. We could put you in there forever. It's a very weird transition of, I think, perspective versus what reality is. And with the NBA completely removing it from the testing

for players, I think the NFL is right around the corner because precedent has already been set in another league. Do you think that? And do you ever, because you're Calvin Johnson, have conversations with Roger Goodell or anybody else in positions of power around the NFL about how they test for it and how much better it is than a lot of these pharma products that players inevitably end up falling apart of because of in the longterm. Yeah. Two things there, I guess. Well, I guess, I guess we have to wait around for another, for the next CBA. So I don't know, what are we two years into the new one?

So I think that that would be the time where they try to negotiate that and even, you know, fully get rid of it. Like the other leagues, especially if I think, I don't know if they test for it in baseball, but if all the other leagues continue to, you know, fully get rid of it like the other leagues, especially if I think I don't know if they test for it in baseball. But if all the other leagues continue to, you know, take it off of their their list, I think it's just, you know, be that snowball effect. And it'll happen hopefully with the next CBA. But to that point and talking to Roger Goodell, you know, you know, we're waiting to get in the right position. You know, we created a brand that's clean and primitive and then we created new products with primitive performance and we were waiting for those new innovative products, you know, that we were going to create, you know, to really highlight the healing powers of the plant in different

applications. You know, we talk about pre-roll, we talk about flower all day, but you know, we're talking about healing in a different application, you know, bringing it to people in the way of topicals or electrolyte mixes as we have done. You know, bringing it to people in the way of topicals or electrolyte mixes as we have done. You know, I think you really changed the conversation around cannabis and really what this plant can do. Yeah, we got your package here and we're incredibly impressed with the, like you said, we got a tight, like a professional professional operation i think that's a big part of it like displaying like hey this is real business there's real science behind it all and we're taking it very seriously and i think in this uh primitive performance stuff that you're selling i don't think there's any thc in this it's just cbd so it's utilizing the cannabis plant

without having anything that anybody could fail a test. And also you can sell nationwide. Good play. Good play. And it's a good product. That's good stuff, Calvin. Correct. Yeah, we did it the CBD fashion for, you know, e-commerce. And the good thing about it, man, is featuring nanotechnology.

It's not just your run-of-the-mill topical. I mean, there's not many electric white misses out there, if any, in the cannabis market. But it's featuring a high-performance nano emulsion, and that's really just breaking down a particle size so small that it mainly bypasses the intestinal system and gets to work into the bloodstream. In contrast to what's currently out there, the distillate products that are used, it's very fast-acting.

So that transdermal topical is my favorite. Are you a genius? I'm not a genius. I just got great people on the team. You got to find those great people. A lot of people have people on their team that aren't great people on the team. You have to have some sort of... As you know, we've been on...

We play football. I don't know. I can't really speak for you, but I've seen good and bad teams. We know what it looks like to have that. And it's really just a breakdown of communication a lot of times, which, you know, lead to those bad teams. But we know what it looks like, so we have, you know, put a goal together to put together a good team of people, you know,

that we can rise together with. Now, the obvious joke that's sitting there that I won't say, okay, but there will be people that do say it. Don't say it. Have to. Don't say it. You said you've seen good and bad teams. You know, that is something that's interesting,

certainly with the history of the Detroit Lions and how performance has been judged since the beginning of games that keep score. You know, so like the year that we were 2-14, the Colts, and we ended up with the number one pick to take Andrew Luck, there was like nine games that were one-score games where if the ball actually potentially bounces into hands of one of our guys that we did not know the name of, he just joined us on Thursday. He's somehow starting middle linebacker now for us.

If the ball just hits off a helmet into his hands, he takes a pick six in. We win that game somehow. But instead, we end up going 2-14. Do you think that the Lions are just cursed? Do you think you're a part of that curse? Do you think there's a reason that the ball just seems to not go in the Lions' favor on a regular basis like everybody else's? And are we getting the proper read on how you view some of the teams

that you played for there in Detroit? Man, that's a loaded question. I mean, I think that, you know, with Detroit, I don't think it's a curse situation. Well, a lot of us think they just need to give you your money back. Yep. 100%. A lot of us think that, Calvin. Just give them its fucking money.

Hey, man. The curse is gone. Anyways, back to what you were saying. Loaded question. Yeah. I mean, it starts from the top down in these situations and you know so i think that you just have to set the culture right the culture just has to be set right um and i think that dan and team brad holmes and team uh i believe

uh and i thought even though mike disner in there because he's uh part you know he's being the catalyst and and me working things out with the team over there um know, I think it's just the right energy from the top. And then that will permeate the culture and the team. And, but it starts at the top, you know, it honestly starts with ownership on down and, but they have, I really like what they have with having Dan, they have a player's coach, somebody else out there. I played with Dan. So, so much respect, you know, coming from me, I love what he's doing with the team. And I just,

it feels like last year, halfway through the season, it just clicked for them a little bit. Obviously, they want to play for Dan, but it seems like they're able to get things together situationally and be able to not have that ball bounce the other way, but be able to capitalize on those

moments. Yeah, there's some trick plays that worked. I mean, fourth and one, drag, tight end. I mean, it was some trick plays that worked. I mean, fourth and one, drag, tight end. Right. I mean, it was like the brand new Lions. Gussy football. Yeah, it was like the brand new Lions almost. Do you, like, when you look back on your time and some of those teams, do you think,

hey, some of our teams we could have went on a run with and then the world just doesn't really know that when you look back on it? Because obviously Stafford goes over to LA, wins a Super Bowl, and they talk about the year you and him had together. It's like there had to be some fucking great teams over there for whatever reason just didn't go on a run.

Some people just get unlucky. Is that how you view some of the teams that you guys had? Well, I'm saying we all knew on our team that we had, you know, obviously a quarterback that could lead us all the way. Obviously we saw that in the first year, you know, he went over to another team. It was just about the culture, like I was speaking about. But, you know, we knew we had a team.

We had a great defensive line. You know, we had a great quarterback. We had a great receiver group. We had a solid secondary. We had a lot of good pieces. You know, we made it to the playoffs a couple times there. And, you know, especially that beginning of it, that 2011 year. You know, I feel like that was our year, And, you know, especially that, the beginning of it, that 2011 year. You know, I feel like that was our year,

but, you know, we didn't make it past the Saints at the very beginning there. But, you know, we definitely felt like we had the juice. And anybody that had to play Detroit at that time, you know, they knew they had to reckon with a tough team.

Feel good to be able to cheer for the Lions again? It does. It does. It's easy to cheer for Dan, you know. It was easy to cheer for the Lions again? It does. It does. It's easy to cheer for Dan, you know. It was easy to cheer for Dan from that first press conference. I was a fan of Dan, you know, from when he began coaching and seeing what he was going to do. But that first press conference, bite him in the kneecaps.

The happy role. He happy from that. Yeah, he wasn't trying to be anybody else but himself, it did appear. I think Foxy back there, who's a big Lions fan, has a massive grin on his face to hear that. Hell yeah. I think Dan has done a lot for people to enjoy the hell out of the Lions. Definitely.

Last year was so much fun. Calvin, I got to ask you, I know everyone asks you all the time, but I mean, what, we're April 7, 2023. Where do we stand with the organization right now? Are things getting better? Are things getting positive? Or how has that stand with the organization right now? Are things getting better? Are things getting positive? How has that been over the last couple years? Really, until this year

or in the last year and then going into this year, we've barely been in some good communication. We've been in communication, put it like that. It's been good. Mike Dizner's been leading that over there. It's been good talks. We've been actually making some moves. They're helping out my foundation this year.

So that's the beginning of some good things coming. Let's go shake their hands. Nice. Here we go. This is good news, Calvin. Now there's just an easy way in our eyes to just kind of – you've seen it in Happy Gilmore. Yep. You've seen it in Happy Gilmore. You've seen it at golf tournaments.

You've seen it in a lot of things. You see Jackie Moon, semi-pro. Just one of those big checks. It's just easy. One of those big ones you've got to take to a big bank. That easy. Calvin's not saying that. We are just saying this from

outside looking in. We've been saying it for years. It does appear that that. No. We are just saying this from outside looking in. We've been saying it for years. It does appear that that's a pretty easy way to kind of take care of it. And also, let's go shake their hunts. A little bit of respect. It's great to hear that out of the Detroit Lions. Foxy's pumped up to hear it. Connor has a question for you, Calvin. Yeah, Calvin, you mentioned how

you're 6'5", and Pac-Man Jones, who takes care of Chris Henry's kids, has a son, Chris Jr., and he is 6'5". He's a freshman in, who takes care of Chris Henry's kids, has a son, Chris Jr., and he is 6'5". He's a freshman in high school, and right now he's worried he's going to get too tall where he can't play football anymore and he'll have to go play basketball or something. Was there ever

a time for you where you were worried, like, holy shit, I'm almost too much of a beast to play football and I have to maybe switch sports, or did you kind of hit your growth spurt at the right time hit my growth spurt like you know eighth ninth grade somewhere in there um but you know baseball was my sport man um until I until I really got to you know you know 10th grade maybe 11th grade you know that's when football just kind of took over baseball literally got boring you know we had you know we had a good baseball team, good pitchers.

I'll be out there in center field chasing them down. Sometimes I'll be out there, you know, just standing for a long time. We had good pitching. But, you know, I love baseball. I grew up loving Ken Griffey Jr. You know, I always wanted to knock it out of the park like him. But once I started playing football, man, baseball became, you know, second nature. How do you feel about if he i think pac's

big worry is not a lot of successful six seven wide receivers six eight wide receivers obviously you reap the benefit of being taller than most everybody and more physical than everybody is there merit to that you think and why would that be the case being taller and more physical than everybody no like six seven six eight not being good as a nfl okay got you i mean it just has i mean really just depends on your build honestly you know your quick switch if you have that quick switch i think you could be good you really just have to you know really focus when you're working out and training in all season and get ready and hardening your body for that season just focusing on all those joints that take the most impact

being a long and tall guy. And you really have to focus on those things because you're going to get twisted a little bit more. You're going to take long falls to the ground. So if you focus on those things, those, all those joints and the muscles around those joints that take the most impact and beefing those up and getting those strong, making yourself durable, he could do it. You know, I haven't, I got to see the guy.

You said he's six, what now? Five, five now or six, what now, five? Five now or? Six, five freshman, four, four. So, I mean,

yeah, he might grow a little bit more but that doesn't mean, I don't think that means that, you know, that he can't do it. You know, I might have to reach out to Pac.

You know, Pac and myself, they went to the same high school down in Westlake, down in Georgia. So, I got, I love Pac.

I always grew up, I watched Pac when I was a kid, when he was in high school. So, you know, I might have to reach out and see if there's anything there and be there. Hell, yeah. That would be very well-received, I think, on all parties because my next question was about to be, we asked Pac to put together like his top five wide receivers at a worst,

and somehow he said a bunch of names, and then we're like, Calvin Johnson, he's like, oh, yeah, put him. Slide him up. Right above and then slide everybody else down. I feel like that's every corner that has ever played against you. That has to be, you know, do you ever look in the mirror and go, I've done pretty good in my football world? Because it doesn't feel like you're not really around the football world much. And I think it's because the Detroit Lions relationship for a long time being kind of strained.

Obviously, you're in the Hall of Fame first ballot because we all have so much respect for the player that you are and the player that you were. But you're not really in the football ecosystem, I think, as much as others. And your name is still, as soon as it's heard, everybody's like, yup, fucking unstoppable, unstoppable. That has to feel pretty good, I'd assume, right? Does it? 100%, man, especially coming from the defensive players

that you go against, your peers like that, man. I mean, when you hear those videos or see those videos of Pat P or Revis or any of those guys that I've played against, it's the utmost respect because some of those were the toughest competitors I had to go against. So I love it. It's freaking awesome. And 100%, man, if things weren't strained between the Lions and myself,

100% I'd be a part of the football thing. I want to be a part of it. I got too much. I feel like I got too much to give to especially the receiver group, but not just the receiver group, just, you know, life things that I've, you know, things I've been through that I can share with guys. Not only that, I love being around so my

kids can see what I did and stuff like that. 100%. We got an idea for a once a week thing if you want it. Might have to travel to Indianapolis. Just let us know. You can come do whatever the hell you want to do. A couple more questions, okay? No problem. Ty, go ahead. Calvin, first of of all it's very disheartening to hear that about baseball because

i'm just salivating thinking about you playing outfield with aaron judge for the yankees but that's neither here nor uh there you know like you probably could have been a great baseball player hey they'll call they'll pay too um but just curious, like, hearing you talk about your company and just, like, I mean, it sounds like you almost have, like, a PhD in all this stuff. Did you take any, like, botany classes at Georgia Tech? Like, when did you get interested in all this stuff? Because I feel like a lot of people who do smoke are in this, like, business. It's kind of just, like, the layman stuff. But, like, when you're breaking it down, like, right there, it's like, Holy shit, this is an actual science.

Like there's a lot more that goes into this. You said it right there. The moment that I was like, let me get down to the science of this was I was on dancing with the stars. And you know, I was, I always had chronic swelling in my ankles and knees while I was playing. And you know, that's part of the reason why I did retire. But you know, I was on the show probably a couple of weeks in and I didn't know how strenuous this game was going to be, man. I mean it's I've heard it's terrible it's it's so

much work they don't pay you enough that's what I've heard I've never been asked obviously because the last word in the name of the show but a friend of mine has and I'm like yo you're doing dance with the stars that's awesome he's like this. Six days a week, we have practice for this. We got rehearsal for this. We got that. I'm like, damn. They were losing like 20, 30 pounds, allegedly. Bro, I got down to like, I got under 220.

I ain't been there since college, you know, but it's like that third week, and I was just like, all right, I'm going to have to stop doing that. I'm going to have to quit because my ankles are swelling. I can't do this cha-cha that we got to do this week because I can't move my ankles. You know, and my buddy, now I'm out in quit because my ankles are swelling. I can't do this cha-cha that we got to do this week because I can't move my ankles. You know, and my buddy, now I'm out in L.A., out in LA. My buddy, I went to school with, he's out there in the industry.

And he brought me a topical. It was a green jar with a gold cap. And I started using topical. And a couple days later, I started to see my swelling start to subside. And it stayed down. And I just kept on using it throughout the rest of the show and i made it throughout the rest of the show made it to the finals and whatnot and i was like okay you know there's something to this all right i mean because i grew up mom's like you know don't come home smelling like weed she might kill me you know

i was around i saw cannabis in high school i was i mean i saw it everywhere but you know i wouldn't go home with that because i was i had a fear of miss johnson um but but i said there's that moment dancing with stars i was like okay if i get the opportunity to do more here i'm gonna take advantage of it and then he just said i'm sorry miss johnson that's awesome tone has a question for you pal pal. Gavin, how awesome was it yesterday? I believe it was yesterday or the day before you doing the first pitch with Lindstrom and Ben Wallace and got Miggy to come out. Basically every Detroit icon of the last decade or two.

How awesome was that? Man, it's so dope. I'm still just realizing the gravity of that, man. Nick Lindstrom there being. I got to hang around Ben a couple times, but that's my first time meeting Nick, a legend. And then we got Miggy out there. So to be a future Hall of Famer

and Miggy and just to have that group of guys there, man, that was absolutely amazing. I got to frame that picture. Yeah, Fox, did you hear the hell yeah there? You're literally Detroit Spank Bank right now. That was my whole childhood. I watched you guys my entire childhood.

You guys made my life better, so it was awesome to see that. And it was awesome to see you wearing that awesome Lions bomber jacket. Look at this, bro. You look great. Things are good. Shout out to my guy, Ty Malkins, for that, man. He hooked that up for all of us. I actually want that red wing. I need to get the other jackets. Agreed. Those are good. Shout out to my guy, Ty Malkins, for that, man. He hooked that up for all of us. I actually want that red wing.

I need to get the other jackets. Agreed. Those are awesome. Hey, sounds like you're able to get whatever the hell you want. The red wings jacket is good. Yeah. How'd you guys do? How are the red wings doing right now?

You guys? They're on the come up. Funny enough, they lost last night. Did they? Yeah, 7-6. Really? That's right. Yeah.

Wow. How are the Pens doing? They won last night. They stink. Oh, we won last right. Yeah. Wow. How are the Pens doing? They won last night. Oh, we won last night. Yeah. The Bruins did too. Do you watch hockey, Calvin? I'm watching the playoffs.

Yeah. Just like basketball. It's hard for me to watch. I don't watch too much of the regular season. How are you at basketball? Good? Man, I'm okay. I played a four or five.

You know, I'm not. I'm maybe a little bit. I'm not a huge shooter, but I'm a cut and I a 4-5, you know. I'm not, it may be the 3 a little bit. I'm not a huge shooter, but I'll cut and I'll dunk on you. Still play? Right now you walk up to an LA Fitness.

Are you in Michigan full-time going to LA Fitness? I got a hoop in the backyard, so I thought I'd shoot around. Nice. What is that, like a week out of the year up there in Michigan

where it isn't snowing everywhere? Calvin, real question on that note. Why did you stay in Michigan? Why did you stay in Detroit? People have so many things to say about Detroit and how shitty it is. But, like, people love staying there and love being there, actually. So, quick 15-year timeline of my time here. You know, I landed here in Detroit.

I want to go right back home. I landed here in Detroit. I drove downtown to do my signing, and all I saw was a burnt-up building. It was so depressing. But to see Detroit, the growth, the investment by a lot of people, even ourselves into homes and the city, you've seen this place turn around to the point where, hey, honestly, Trey, you would have seen a white folks walking around downtown Detroit like 10 years ago. Yes.

Everybody's walking around downtown, you know, and it's a very inclusive space. You know, it's so much diversity here. The waterfront's great. And, you know, I mean, you get all four seasons and, you know, it never gets too hot here. But why I'm here is really because of business. I bought a home in Georgia with all intentions of moving down there, back home around the family. Wife wanted to go down south. But business, the opportunity came. And with timing, you know, timing is everything in life, you know.

And, you know, that's why I'm still here. I'm in this industry now and just really trying to push what we're doing with Primitive and highlighting plant medicine in general. All right. Well, you're doing a great job. We're thankful that you stopped by. Check out Primitive Elevated Wellness. That's P-R-I-M-I-T-I-V. Sweet name, bro. Yeah. Hey, sweet name. doing a great job we're thankful that you stopped by check out primitive elevated wellness that's

p-r-i-m-i-t-i-v sweet name bro yeah hey sweet sweet name sweet merch too we're gonna have to buy some more of the merch for sure and anytime we're in michigan we're gonna pick up uh some primitive tree for sure how many states just look at it just hit us up man just hit us up we actually just we're opening up uh we're doing some deals and um we got opportunities in utah and uh boston coming up coming online this year boston probably first um there's a dispensary in downtown boston literally around the financials on district near the harbor kind of so and then utah will be later this year so it's exciting exciting time so you need to get to arizona let me tell why. As somebody that has gotten the chance to travel to a lot of these states where it's legal, Arizona just lets you buy as much as you want.

Arizona is just like, you want to buy every single primitive product here? Go ahead. Go on. Do what you got to do. Illinois is like, you can only have one one-thousandth of what primitive is. Then other states are in the middle. Arizona is just like, come on. So I hope you get to every state. Congrats on all the hard work paying off. And thank you for your

time. Ladies and gentlemen, Hall of Famer, Detroit Lion, and Primitive founder, Calvin Johnson. Joining us now is a man who has been to Augusta. That's right. Has watched the Masters. A man who is a Ryder Cup champion. I actually met one human outside of the Thunderdome earlier today that actually followed A.J. Hawk around his entire Ryder Cup championship and said that A.J. was on fire.

Unbelievable. Helped lead the United States to a victory over the European Ryder Cup team. He's a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion. He's the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers. He's a video game community shit-stirrer, father of 10, and COVID survivor.

Wow. Ladies and gentlemen, that's all one person. Yeah. A.J. Hawk. What's up, dude? It's all one person, yep. All of those very accurate descriptions of things I've done, right? That's right.

Tell me where I'm wrong. Please, please, please. Well, unfortunately, I don't like to put anything out there, but we got beat. The U.S. got beat in my Ryder Cup situation. My team, we won our match, but overall, we did not win. Wait a minute. Are you kidding me? All these fucking times I've said, Ryder Cup champion.

I told you that. I told you that day one. Never. That was two years ago. Myself and Rob Riggle won our match by a lot of points. Of course you did. Rob's a player. Rob's a player.

Rob's really good, yeah. So United States lost. It was, Olé! Olé! Olé! Olé! Olé!

At the end, it wasn't USA. USA! It was Olé, not USA at the end of this thing. I didn't know that. Yeah, but if you remember, I don't know if you remember, we talked about it on the show. The one guy, it was a scary situation. Draco Malfoy.

The guy passed out. On the green. Yeah. Kelly Slater saved his life. Yeah. So I guess you are a champion. Everyone is okay now, I think. I think everyone's doing well.

Imagine if I went into a very deep, profound monologue about why you are a champion after that man passed away and all came back to life. Jeez, things are falling over. I don't know what that was. What was that? Wild time in the stew over here. AJ, did you hear the Calvin Johnson conversation?

It was great. I enjoyed catching up with him. And also, are you watching the Masters? It's been fantastic. I have been watching. I didn't get to see much of Calvin. I know he's awesome. But, I mean, I see Brooks Koepka just absolutely lighting it up.

Dialed in, dude. He remembered how to play golf a week ago. He won his first live golf championship literally six days ago. And then he comes into the Masters of Golf in rare form. Tone Diggs has an update on the monsters. Yeah, he got into the clubhouse at 12 under. He's currently leading by five. Jason Day was nine under heading into 15, which is a par five,

which a lot of this good scoring on. He shot a seven on that par five. He's back down to seven under. So that helps brooks out quite a bit while rom and hovland go off yeah they're going off a little bit late here 119 126 potential tee off i don't know when it is exactly if they've already teed off rom and hovland's on two right here and then rom just teed off i believe hovland hit a kept goes doozy of a putt yeah that's their scores so seven i don't know double okay yeah weird how that works believe me

i also just had that thought that doesn't make sense yeah so that's what they're at okay okay not what the stroke was on that hole see this is like whenever scotty pippen was he was like pippen one up two up three up yep scotty pippen just chipped in from 85 yards you cannot catch up you're dead this is that type of scoring. It's what their actual score is as opposed to what they're scoring on that hole. Bingo. Got it. Okay.

I was a little bit confused, but Rahm might be able to catch up. They're saying the storm, though, is coming here later this afternoon as opposed to what it's supposed to be all day. So if you teed off this morning, you're actually in much better shape than potentially Rahm right now.

Five-stroke lead could be a great spot. That's part of it, though. Because you always need to go late, early, or early-late for your first two tee times. So Koepka got the good tee times where there was no wind yesterday, no wind on his early round. Now they act like it's windy, and they might have to postpone or suspend play and try to pick it up tomorrow.

I just hope they – I hate when it gets backed up too far. Hopefully they figure it out. Rahm just teed off, hit a massive little fade slice into the little second cut of the fairway. If Brooks wins, I'm sorry to cut you off, but if Brooks wins, like the whole live PGA thing, what's going to happen? Are they – I haven't paid enough attention and haven't listened to the commentators.

Are they giving enough pub to live guys playing well? Or is there an inmosty? How's it going? They haven't really addressed it at all. They've just been talking about golf. I do believe they've just been talking about the golf that is happening, which I think we all prefer, and I would assume that's kind of how all of golf prefers, because there was a time there, like last year, where when they were talking about live

players and they would miss a putt, there was certainly a sense of joy. And, ooh, that's a shave. Oh, oh, oh, all right. Phil Mickelson, miss. Ha, ha. Philly. You know, now it does feel like it's just like they're talking about their golf game.

But I wonder how Brooks will talk after he wins. Oh, yeah. You know, because he's wearing his Nike fit. Like, I dj has his a live costume as his there's another one that has like their live costume on without it brooks has the nike that's what i'm saying so like what will brooks say after this thing if he does win it you know he give a shout out to the live golf tour where norman who's banned from the the premises right now he said 15 people are going to

be celebrating on that green if brooks kapka wins all the live guys win if one of the live guys wins is what he's saying is brooks gonna feel that way if brooks wins it because he's the only one obviously in contention right now seemingly with a rear naked choke on the lead right yeah you wonder if the guys who missed the cut see brooks, and they're like, holy shit, I just spent all this money to go to Augusta. I didn't win. I lost a bunch of money. And then Brooks Koepka, who went to live, who allegedly was going to fall off, just won

the Masters. Should I make that decision now? Not a bad conversation to live aspect of it. Another one, Sam Bennett is fucking awesome. Dog. This dude is incredible. He's a college golfer out of Texas A&M, I believe. He won the U.S. Amateur Championship, so he is the amateur representing in the Masters.

Has had to sleep in, not had to, got to, sleep at Augusta National in the Crow's Nest, where the amateurs have been sleeping since the beginning of the amateurs playing in the Masters. Tigers slept there. Phils slept there. There's a lot of history there. The amateurs have to sleep since the beginning of the amateurs playing in the Masters. Tigers slept there. Phil slept there. There's a lot of history there. The amateurs have to sleep there at least one night whenever they get to play in the Masters of Golf.

Sam Bennett's playing, bro. And the tattoo on his forearm is a story straight out of Disney. I saw that, man. I saw his whole thing. Like, yeah, tough not to root for him. What an unbelievable situation, especially losing his dad when he's still so young. Yeah, I'm hoping he can keep it up. What is he, 6th, 7th under still?

6th under, 5th place right now. Damn. Jeez, it's awesome. The problem is these college golf tournaments that we've learned about, because I didn't know if it was like the college golf tour, the CGT, like what do they call it? They have these events where 126 players or something like that enter, and then all teams, all schools have their entries,

and they all kind of play the same tournament, which makes sense. And then there's some tourneys where schools that are D2, D3, their players are allowed to enter and do it. He's dicking around at these college ones. Exactly. Sam Bennett can't even stay focused. They said he's on his phone all the time. He's listening to music.

He's obviously got some zins in there. Now, zins, we're not saying are distracting, but he's 46th, I think, in college in points, this guy, who's golfing right next to Scotty Scheffler, beating Scotty Scheffler. This dude in college because he just can't, you know. He's kind of small. He probably hates the fact that he has to carry his bag like all the rest of the college golfers.

Have you ever seen that? Those guys carry their bag at those what happens yeah yeah that makes sense caddy informed today but yeah they carry the little hey if you see his bag out there the guy has little legs on there like we do he popped a little bag down that's amazing but he gets in the masters no phone oh this one's a real deal yeah let's try it can he take the money even though he's an amateur can he take money not from the master but but could he get endorsement deals with the NIL situation? So we were talking about that. The amateurism thing is kind of dead, you know?

Yeah, it is. So how will golf, because I think he's not allowed to take the money if he's entered as an amateur. It's like how you enter the whole thing. Yeah. But why would he not be able to? Yeah, he should be. I don't know. i mean between honestly between like

thursday by tomorrow someone should get to him nike or somebody like should sign him with you send him something like hey man we'll give you some cash where our stuff yeah dude just put a patch on yeah that's it yeah i'd be shocked if someone didn't already do that somehow because he won the u.s amateur championship yes please get his contact but you if you know all the like all the good pub he already has gotten this so far if he goes into the weekend it doesn't fall apart they're gonna keep showing him yeah so business-wise seems good but also just like cool like hey this is a fucking great story would like to support it and he's a great golfer great guy yeah like this is it feels as though this might be the next guy him just there's so many different moments where he can start overthinking it and fuck up you know yeah

like the first hole today had to sleep on doing good in the masters all night so tough like that's that's running through your head like okay how do i how do i do what i did yesterday you know like all those thoughts like you know guys they talk about you just woke up on sunday and augusta with the lead like how did you handle that? Well, I wasn't able to sleep, had to go through the whole, do I hang on, do I try to keep scoring? Like, that's a lot of mental pressure you can put on yourself. Imagine being a fucking amateur that just lights up the course

the first time you've ever been there. I think it's the first time he's ever been there. First time he lights it up, and then he's sleeping on it like, well, I should just do it tomorrow, I guess. Yeah, right. And then puts his zit in and falls asleep in that crow's nest in a twin-sized bed,

wakes up and does the same first hole birdie. Like, Scottie misses putt. It's good to be naive. Drains putt. It's good not to have some of those negative thoughts in your head like, oh, what if? Like, it's good to be young and naive and to not really think past the next 30 seconds.

Yeah, that's exactly what happened to Rory. Like, that was the whole conversation yesterday about how rory had the you know lead going into sunday and then on the back nine collapse he's never been the same at the course since then i've heard at that actual like at the 10th hole i've heard whenever you play there and it's not like the masters tournament or whatever they actually say to the people that are golfing they're like hey this is where remember this is that hole and then they point allegedly from what i've been told by people that have played there they like point in the direction in which the ball went and when you're standing on

that tee box allegedly from what i've been told it's like oh i wouldn't even be able to do that yeah like that's a bad i won't even you know what i? That's what people feel that have been there. They're saying that old thing. So that has to be in Rory's head, you know? Yeah. Unless you're ayahuasca, huh? Unless, yeah. It's so mental. Just think if you're a wire-to-wire champion of even any PGA event, let alone like the Masters, to where Thursday, like,

all right, here, I'm so excited. Let's go. Oh, I played great. Cool. How do you continue that? That's the thing. Golf is so weird. It's not like, oh, I can get all jack Let's go. Oh, I played great. Cool. How do you continue that? That's the thing. Golf is so weird. It's not like, oh, I can get all jacked up and go out there and play hard.

No, it's different. You got to find a way to, like, hone all that in. Let me tell you how mentally weak I was when I came into the NFL, okay? So my first preseason game, they had just cut Tim Mastay, who would go on to be the Packers punter for a long time, but special teams coordinator at the time wanted Tim Mastay as the punter. Bill Pullian wanted me as the punter. I didn't really punt in college. I did the Aussie punt. Tim Mastay did. He had been punting since high school. Great athlete, great soccer player, great dude. I actually met him at a kicking camp going into my senior year

of college. Was a massive fan. He's complete opposite of me as a human. I think we all agree. of college was a massive fan. He's the complete opposite of me as a human. I think we all agree. Yeah, Tim is absolutely like... I used to see Tim in Green Bay. We went to this little coffee shop, and Tim would be there sometimes by himself listening to something and writing stuff down in a journal. Like he's like a...

At a coffee shop. He's like a... Yeah, he's a robot. Well, he had a great personality when he was around me, but he is certainly... No, no. I mean, in a good way. Like how his... Everything he ate was super regimented.

His workouts. Yeah. Tim is like one of those guys. Routine guy. So me and Tim are competing my rookie training camp while I'm still very much trying to learn how to punt. They did draft me. So they had like a $50,000 signing bonus invested in me. So I certainly had a head up over Tim Mastay in the competition because they had money invested in me already,

although it wasn't a lot of money, but he certainly had much more skill, technique, and everything else. I was actually watching him punt, trying to like, okay, so he's doing that. All right, I should try to do that while I'm doing, and they kicked us to death. Like, we kicked every single day right next to each other boom boom boom boom boom that's actually like where i thought i was going to be okay because i could go a long time and i think literally that's the only reason why they might have picked me also the gm wanted me not special teams coach interesting relationship with special teams coach obviously early with that publicly being known you know by all parties and then me making it. But nonetheless, first preseason game, I have like a

66-yard ball, like a 61-yard ball, just couldn't have gone any better. Balls went real far. People in the stands go whoo, like that is, okay. I had no idea why they went far, but I knew, okay, they did go really far. This is just what I'll do every game.

Obviously, why am I even worrying about anything? This is what it's going to be. So the night before next preseason game, right? I'm still trying to prove myself. I'm thinking to myself, oh, I have to do better than I did last week. Oh, no. Set the standard too high. I'm going to have to do better.

So first punt out the gate, I'm thinking I got to do better than last week. I fucking shank. I mean, it is massive shank because I'm trying to kill the ball. And it's like, I naturally just had those thoughts whenever I was in it going into my second. So think about old cuz today in college, just has played very well at the masters all night. He had to think about it. Everybody's giving him love. He was on ESPN all night last year. He was on every single thing all night. He has to see that. He has to feel that. The amount of texts he's getting, friends, family, people that

he's met 15 years ago, 10 years ago. I always knew it. The amount of your dad would be so proud. The amount of all those that come. And then on the first hole, he's able to just put the ball right on the fucking tee. It actually falls off. He had to pick it back up without having to

and put it on the T. Just think about the nerves there that that takes. And then he pipes it. Better than Scottie. Better than everybody else right down the center. He seems like he's made for the moment, too, which I absolutely love. I have

respect for. And we might be seeing the fucking next one here. This is a chance. And this is what the Masters almost can do. and then even the difference from like you know last night to today to today to tomorrow where it's like you know at the start you're probably thinking like hey it'd be really cool if i just make the cut and i make it to the weekend and now you see yourself in like the top five on the leaderboard it's like hey we're not making the cut anymore like i'm gonna go try to fucking win this thing and also knowing that like okay the pin locations like they're going to the championship locations where like every hole is going to get much tougher like it just there's no point where you know when you're that high it's not just like

oh i'm happy with how i'm playing like then you start to visualize hey i could win this thing and it just keeps mounting and mounting and mounting like there isn't going to be a point from now until sunday where like you know it kind of dips a little bit, and it's, like, not the most stressful situation of your life. And you don't tighten up at all. Yeah, exactly. The sweet spot on golf ball is this big, you know? So if you think at all, move at all, don't just full.

You have to commit. Every golf shot, you have to commit. You have to get your brain out of it. So to be able to do that at his age, I think we all should be very impressed and incredibly proud. Way to go out there, Sam. Keep going, Sam. It's not easy. He's got Scottie Sheffer sitting next to him, too.

Defending champion, hottest player in the world. I mean, that's not easy. And then he's making a putt, and then Sam's making a putt, and then Scottie's missing a putt, and then Sam's making a putt. And I Scottie's missing a putt. And then Sam's making a putt. And I'm like, I wonder if Sam's saying anything here. There was a moment where yesterday Sam was standing on, like, the back of a green, and Scottie was walking by. And I saw him stop and, like, say something to Sam.

And they have, like, a quick conversation. And then, like, Scottie kind of goes, like, I wonder if Scottie is, like, empowering Sam? Realizing. No. What do you think? No. He probably said, enjoy it while you can, but it's about to fall apart pretty quick.

Jeez. Come on. Scheffler? That's what you would say. He wouldn't do that. Not Scotty. Not Scotty. I'm not saying that Scotty is a human, but I'm saying Scotty is a competitor.

That could be him. I'm like, hey, man, I got to really start planting seeds so this guy doesn't try to make a run at this thing dude that would be very much a team sport human being shit talk to guy you know when we're when we're all playing like golf or whatever that is something that i would hear our friends say like yeah yeah i just ain't gonna last enjoy well we actually said that to you while we were at uh that's right in your head you know in your head i know yeah you're right i'm gonna try to hold on as long as i can yeah and i'm like this at some point this drive is going 50 we all know it's going ob and i'm just putting i'm planting that seed into your head

and i'm trying to get a reaction out of you to see if you believe that or not and it felt like every time you're like yep it is gonna go over there i'm like okay cool great shot that's awesome i'm very happy for you that you just did that, but there's no way that's going to be. And this fucking guy did it for 54 holes or whatever the hell. Classic sandbagger. It was unbelievable. Hit the ball the furthest the people have ever seen it on two different holes.

And with that being said, I don't think Scotty's saying that to Sam. Okay, that's us. We are the assholes. I don't think. Okay, okay, good. Probably telling him. I'm saying that. It'd be a good story.

What if Scotty was like, Jesus has really blessed you today. I wonder how long that'll last. I wonder if Sam is doing it to him. You're the best in the world, huh? I didn't realize I was better than you. I should have turned pro three years ago. Yeah, exactly.

What if Scotty punches Sam? Yeah, and that's why Scheffler's playing the way he is. It's like, Jesus, this kid from Texas A&M is killing me. How did Phil do? I didn't see Phil or Rory. Yeah, he started. He was under. Remember, Phil started at the Champions Dinner, not talking to anybody.

I'm here to win another one of these. Don't talk to me. I don't want to hear it. I'm eating. I'm not sure that was the tone. You think that was the tone? No, I think Fuzzy Zeller said, sit down there and shut your fucking mouth. Don't say to me. I don't want to hear it. I'm eating the food. I'm not sure that was the tone. You think that was the tone? I think Fuzzy Zeller said, sit down there and shut your fucking mouth.

Don't say a word. That's what it felt like. No, Fuzzy Zeller was an Indiana guy. Fuzzy Zeller, actually, he's four under? Yeah, I did four under. Dude, he's been focused on winning this thing. That's why I didn't talk to anybody at the Champions Dinner. He's in villain mode.

Yeah, dude. Hell yeah. Good for him. Origin story. He's put all that shit in his coffee all by himself. Yep. Bang, pow, no crash, no jerks. Bombs, man.

Bombs, bombs, bombs. Cavs, Cavs, Cavs, Cavs. Twisty, twisty, twisty. Halaciously. Live, live, live. Bruce just had a sweet lefty hat that he threw away. It's a real shame that he did that. Yeah, Bruce has become quite an anti-Liv guy, hasn't he?

Yeah, he's bouncing around. Oh, I'm not anti-Liv at all. No, actually, he said he would like to win because of the Liv storyline stuff. Yeah, he said fuck Rom, though. What's that? He said John Rom. I'm out on him already. That's not true.

Don't say that. The guy started golfing because of John Rom. Yeah, he did. Rombo? Bombo? But he would prefer Brooks to win over Bombo. Rombo, Bombo just buried home a par putt from a foot and a half, probably very frustrated that the birdie putt was a miss.

He looks good, sleek, good fit today for old Rami as he storms around Augusta. We have some breaking news out of the NBA, and we feared that this conversation would come, but it has been made official by Sean Sharania. The Pelicans have ruled out Zion Williamson for the play-in tournament, and his status is in doubt for the start of a potential playoff berth as well. And obviously, if they don't win the play-in, they don't make the playoffs.

So this potentially means that Zion Williamson's season is over. What do you know? Ty, please. So my issue with this is, is this the Pelicans, AJ, doing what it seems like they have done so many times in the past with Zion, where Zion's posting videos of him going

through his legs and breaking rims, basically stating to the entire universe, I'm healthy enough to play. You see this fucking dunk I'm doing? You see this hardwood that I'm indenting whenever I jump with my explosivity? You don't think I'm healthy enough to play? They got me doing one-on-one. Then one-on-two.

What? Then two-on-two. What? Then two-on-three. What? Then three-on-three. What? Then three-on-four.

What? Then four-on-four. What? Then four-on-five. What? Then five-on-five. And then a week of six-on-six. What? on three, then three on four, then four on four, then four on five, then five on five, and then a week of six on six, and then I can maybe play. I don't have time for all of the build-up in the process.

I would like to play right now. We thought that's what he meant by that video, but then here we get into another season where when he's on the court, he's a triple double fucking machine, and then all of a sudden one thing leads to another, and he's going through the process again and he's out and now we might not see him for the rest of the season aj what are your thoughts on this entire thing i mean i have plenty of thoughts on it because when i saw that report and realized he's been out since january

2nd it's been three months i had no idea it was a hamstring strain is that all he has or is he about something else he's dealing that's That's it. I got a, uh, a, I got a papillotus issue right now. The muscle behind my left knee. It's right behind. It's hammy calf in between hammy calf because of a thunderball incident that

I had muscles can be a little bit suspect, but it feels like maybe it's the Pelicans once again, kind of being like three months, three months of the hamstring. Did he, did he get surgery to rip it off the bone? I don't know. For three months for a hamstring strain?

I don't think we can blame the Pelicans. We have to have a setback. Are we so sure this is the Pelicans? Are we? Is this maybe not Zion? Listen, I, before the show today, did just a little bit of research, just a tiny bit of research, and I do have a little presentation, if you'd humor me.

Yeah, absolutely. A presentation? Yeah, a little presentation, if you'd humor me. Yeah, absolutely. A presentation? Yeah, a little presentation. Okay. Okay. Please. Get my notes here? Yes.

Now, listen. I love Zion. What is he? One of the biggest proponents. AJ, what the fuck is going on with you? It's always good when he starts with that. Everyone loves Zion in here. Do we not?

Love Zion. Don't we just want to see the guy play? Bought his shoes. Bought his shoes. Have a jersey. Have a jersey. Everybody's got something that they love. Ate a donut for him.

Love the bumpus, Hans. Listen, we all have different things that we love about Zion. But there is a glaring problem that, for whatever reason, no one really wants to admit or, you know, they don't want to act like it's the real reason. On this show? I think just in general. On this show, no, because I think a few people, myself included,

have maybe posited this theory that there's something else that's kind of the issue. So this morning, before the show, I said, who are the fattest slobs that have played in the NBA? Okay. Okay? Compiled a little bit of a list. Now, keep in mind, one of the— Whoa!

Well, just bear with me here because I'm going to go through it. One of these guys is not a fat slob, okay? But what you will see with this list is there's a little bit of a repeating factor. Connor, what is it? This is disgusting. I don't know, pal. Let's hear him out. Thank you.

I'm also curious. It is disgusting because of the situation. AJ, we don't need it from you. Listen, I'm not saying Zion is a fat, out-of-shape slob. I'm not saying that. I'm saying what we've seen so far, he might find himself on this list in a few years. Okay, there's a chance it could happen where people would judge him for that. Bingo.

Potential. It might already be happening. You're trying to help. I'm trying to help. He's on that path. He's on that path. Who's number five? Please bring him up. I'm sure he'll see it that way. Mike Sweet already be happening. You're trying to help. I'm trying to help. He's on that path. He's on that path. Who's number five? Please bring him up. I'm sure he'll see it that way.

Mike Sweetney. Okay. Now, keep in mind, a lot of these guys, he didn't come into the NBA at 340 pounds. He didn't. He was the ninth overall pick in the 2003 NBA draft. I believe he played at about 282. Okay. But another thing you'll see about a lot of these guys on this list is there

was kind of a lot of concerns over their career that they are fat and lazy. Oh. Really? So this guy balloons up to 340 in his career. Okay? Yes. Just guess what his stats are. Keep in mind, this guy's a lottery pick.

He's the number nine pick in the 2003 NBA draft. Number nine pick? That guy's a dog. He's got to average at least 15, maybe 16 points a game. 10 boards. Yeah, but we'll give him 7 to 8, maybe 9 boards. Not a chance, okay? This guy averaged about 6 points and like 3

rebounds a game in a couple years. Basically played for one team. They're like, hey, Fatso, get in shape. Get rid of him. Goes to another team. Hey, Fatso, I thought you were going to get in shape. Can't do it. Goes to another team. Bounces around a bunch. gonna get in shape can't do it goes to another team bounces around a bunch and then what does he do he ends up playing overseas okay he goes over to china he goes to taiwan whatever and has a pretty good career over there okay that's fine

this guy's the number nine pick in the nba draft okay basically ate too much mcdonald's ate too much pizza was just a big old fat wow look Wow. Look at this guy. That Sweetney? This is Sweetney. Look at this fucking guy, okay? This guy could start at left guard for the Cowboys right now and probably could have in his prime. Probably should have. Probably shouldn't have been playing in Azerbaijan

or wherever the hell he's playing right now. Got it. Okay, so there's Mike Sweetney. Go to number four, please. That was in Uruguay. Uruguay. Eddie Curry. Bruce knows Eddie Curry well well zeke knows eddie

curry well he's this guy comes right out of high school he's supposed to be the next big thing he's the number four pick i think the 2001 nba draft jesus and the difference with eddie curry is again he was drafted around 285 lean mean fighting machine rebounding machine when he comes in. Again, hey, you're lazy and you're turning into a fatso. He doesn't care. He doesn't care. He just keeps eating, spending his money. He's having a bunch of issues. He ends up ballooning to 315.

Now, he did play in the NBA for about 12 years. Hey, okay. Successful. Great career. Successful. Let me see what his exact stats are, though. Okay, so not bad. Played 11 years. Averaged about 13 points a game and about six boards. I like that. Let me see what his exact stats are, though. Not bad. Played 11 years,

averaged about 13 points a game, and about six boards. I like that. Okay, Eddie Curry. Number four. Not bad. But again, the big thing with Eddie Curry is everyone was talking about how good this guy could have been. I mean, considering him kind of like the next Shaq when he came in. Damn. But he's just lazy.

And he was okay with averaging 13 points and six rebounds. That's fine. Doesn't matter. Gotcha. Role player. Role player, sure. Not what you're drafting at number four for.

You're not thinking of a role player. You're thinking, hey, maybe this fat, lazy son of a bitch is going to get his shit together, and he's going to lead us to a championship. When he was drafted, he was 280, I heard. He was. What did he end at, though? 350. Jesus Christ.

That's ridiculous. Go to the next guy. Jeez. Now, this one's a little bit of an out. I mean, everyone remembers Big he end at, though? 350. Jesus Christ. That's ridiculous. Go to the next guy. Jeez. Now, this one's a little bit of an out. I mean, everyone remembers Big Sim Buller, okay? Uh-huh. This guy's just a big son of a bitch. Sim Buller.

75, 360. He played at New Mexico, had a hell of a run in the NCAA tournament. He didn't get drafted. He went to the Kings. They were just basically like, Sim, you're just a big son of a bitch. You actually aren't very good at basketball, so we can't keep you. He played in the NBA for one year. Look how big that son of a bitch is.

I remember this guy. Sim's a big guy. You do. Sweet mid-range game. Sweet mid-range game. This guy could fucking shoot a 13-foot jumper in your eye like you wouldn't believe. But he played one year in the NBA. Didn't really have any issues.

He just wasn't good enough. Simple as that. Okay. All right. Go to the next one. 7'5", 360. Okay, Shaq. And again, Shaq played at about 325 in his heyday,

but Shaq was an incredible athlete. Very similar to Zion. Okay. Yeah. Ended at 360, but that was more – we're talking about the big Aristotle there. He was past his prime. Shaq missed the first 12 games of the 2002-2003 NBA season. He had to have complete reconstructive toe surgery.

Basically, it felt like he was walking on TNT every single game the year before. You know what they did the year before, though? What was that? They won the fucking championship, and he was the NBA Finals MVP. So Shaq's a tough son of a bitch, okay? Shaq's an anomaly. Yeah, he is. He's an anomaly.

He played for 20 years. Go to number one. This is an issue's an anomaly. Yeah, he is. He's an anomaly. He played for 20 years. Go to number one. This is an issue. Oliver Miller. Oh, my gosh. Okay, number 22 pick of the 1993 NBA draft. This fucking son of a bitch ended up weighing 375 pounds. Big guy.

Whoa. Big guy. Big guy. Same deal. None of these guys really had any issues with injuries. It was kind of just hey you're a fat slob and you can't run it up up and down the court okay that's that's an issue we play basketball here okay we're not playing badminton we're not playing pickleball you got to be able

to move look at this guy does that look like a fucking basketball player to you he's on the kings yeah he was he was on the king he's actually in the pacers hall of fame uh because really no well no but look at him. Does he not look good in that uniform? Yeah, it looks like the cheese curds and breadsticks got to him. Exactly. Indiana's got good food. They do.

They do. So what's the presentation saying? So the presentation is, listen, all these guys who are playing had a lot of talent. With the exception of Shaq. Again, Shaq's an outlier. None of these guys have of talent. But with the exception of Shaq, again, Shaq's an outlier. None of these guys have Zion talent, okay?

And they didn't have the medical marvels that we have now. They didn't have the food regiments that all these guys are on. They didn't have all the scientific data and research that Zion has at his fingertips, okay? Zion, right now, he's missed 60% of the games in his NBA career. Damn. Played 24 games in his NBA career. Damn. Played 24 games in his rookie year, 61 games the next year. Pretty good. Didn't play all of last year, and then this year he's played 29 games.

Okay. When he plays, he's unbelievable. He's averaging almost 26 points and 7 rebounds a game. That's unbelievable. But he's missed 60% of his fucking games. Right now, his current playing weight listed, 284. That's not bad. Yeah, that's perfect.

Remember what I said about what a couple of these guys were when they came into the league? 282, 284. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but Zion, he's at his playing weight, I thought. He can do that. That's his playing weight right now. If he doesn't get his shit together and kind of get his, you know, start listening to some people, maybe not going out to eat five times a day only need three meals a

day what's your problem do you know this or is this all yeah wait this is what i'm posturing right now i'm speculating purely purely speculative okay i don't want eight years from now us to look back and say jesus christ zion's 385 pounds playing over in you know zing zhang province in china okay bowing down to xi zingping okay you think i want that i think anyone else wants that no they don't all i'm saying is zion okay this is one more year that we're we're notching off his career okay and he's already been paid now it's time to maybe take this shit seriously. Come on, Zion! We need you! What do you say, Zion? Was that an Ocean's Eleven reference?

No, Xi Jinping is the current fucking... Come on, Zion! Zion, we need you, okay? Don't need you to end up being Oliver Miller, being 6'9 and weighing 375 pounds playing in China, okay? You belong in the NBA. You belong in the Hall of Fame. You should be a perennial all-star.

Fucking take the bumpus hounds for a walk every once in a while, all right? Jesus Christ. Thank you, Ty. I didn't like the way you said fatso a few times because my weight fluctuates and I'm not an easily skinny human being. I have to focus on the whole what I'm eating because I love food. I enjoy eating a lot. Some people don't. Some people don't.

Some people don't like eating. Some people just have the ability to stop eating great-tasting things and then move on either easily or very difficult. They're able to do it. Some people aren't. I am a person that enjoys eating. My weight fluctuated as I was in the NFL, but there came a point where it was like, hey, you got to –

like, hey, you're kind of disgusting. You know what I mean? Like, Ben and Terry actually had a convo with me. And Darren, special teams coordinator for the Bengals, there was one preseason game he was like, so what's the deal here? You're just trying to become like the fattest punter in the league? And I was like, Darren. Jesus.

Darren. Jeez. When you mention the all-white. All-white jerseys, Darren. Come on. We wore these Spanx. Darren, you guys were in blackys, Darren, come on. We wore these Spanx. Darren, you guys were wearing black and orange. I get it.

I got these Spanx on or whatever. But it was like a combo that I had to have, and I immediately got better. Yeah. Like, I got better as soon as I started taking care of myself and focusing on it, but it was not an easy thing for me. And then you think back to other athletes. Like, there's some athletes that lose weight quickly whenever they retire, and then there's some guys that gain a lot of weight quickly it's because how people view food and their tendencies with it and around

it so i understand it's not easy but god damn it we want zion to be in the best possible shape he could possibly be in because there were some pictures we heard he maybe changed his entire thing and there were some pictures that came out where he looked like jocked and we're like holy shit is this a new zion and they're like, no, no, this is what he always looks like. Oh, he's always been jacked. Everybody in that world seems to believe that he has to trim down with the way the NBA is, with the way traveling is. It's not easy though, AJ.

It's not an easy thing, but if he did it, the NBA would be much better, I think, AJ. Yeah, I mean, I think the majority of humans alive have struggles with that, trying to figure out like, all right, how do you limit what you're eating? As you get older, too, it doesn't get easier for people to stay in shape. So that's another thing to worry about. But you think all of these injury situations are related to his weight? It feels like that's the way it is.

Or the smoke and the fire. That's what Ty's saying. The hamstring strain is what freaks me out. A three-month hamstring strain is what's weird. Because if you do put him back in there and they say we want to protect him for his long-term health, it's not like he had microfracture surgery on his knee. We're talking a hamstring that, even if you ripped it off the bone in the playoffs, would heal in the offseason.

Have you ever had a hamstring? Nope. Luckily, I have not. No, but hamstrings, though, like a couple weeks, you know? I think depending on— Really bad ones, maybe a month for a really bad one. Three months. So there has to be more or he had a setback they tried to come back and do the two on two two on three and he popped

it again is what i'm thinking and maybe we could just see him pop it again in live action yeah you know like what is uh what's the two on two bullshit like even that stuff it's like hey if this guy's just having a hamstring injury you should probably be coming back a little sooner and the other thing to tie his presentation, they already gave him a max contract. They gave him a four year, $180 million deal. Invested a lot of money in this guy. He is. He's unbelievable

to watch. I'm not trying to just rip on his weight, but that clearly is one of the fucking issues and maybe the problem is he doesn't have as many people around him because whenever he does play, he plays unbelievable. 26 and 7? Exactly. Maybe it's like, hey people around him because whenever he does play, he plays unbelievable. 26-7? Exactly.

So maybe it's like, hey, I don't need to change anything. But also he's running the risk of you keep getting hurt like this eventually. Whole career wasted. He's not going to be playing in the NBA in two years. Whole career wasted. Exactly. Greg Oden. Well, and talk about the new deal too, like 65 games to win an award.

He'll never win an MVP or a defensive player of the year most improved. It's a shame. We miss you out there, Zion. Get better, Zion. I want to see you play in China. You certainly don't. None of us do. I don't. No. Let's go to Ben in Rhode Island.

What's going on, Ben? How's it going? Keep it going, Ben? How's it going? Keep it going, Ben. How's it going? How's it going, baby? With the NFL draft coming up, it kind of feels like there's, like, the draft gets super hyped up with the quarterbacks. It feels like there's, like, that one and two guy for a long time.

Like, in 2021, Trevor Lawrence, Justin Fields, like, through middle school, they were the number one, number two guys. And all of a sudden, Wilson, Lance, they get hyped up. And then Fields falls a legend to the Bears, which I'm a Bears fan. Why do you all think this happens? Like it seems to happen every year. Oh, that's a great question. Evaluation, performance.

Some people come out of nowhere. You know, like Mac Jones came out of nowhere, kind of. I think in that whole conversation of who's at the top, obviously he had backed up for a long time. Joe Burrow kind of came out of nowhere. He was backing up quarterbacks at Ohio State before he had to transfer out. So I think there's an outlier that kind of comes out of nowhere that can potentially rattle some things. But Bryce Young, C.J. Stroud, I'd assume Anthony Richardson.

Yeah, they were. Hendon Hooker is older though, right? Yeah, he went to Virginia Tech first, I think he's 24 25 25 i assume they've all been in the conversation though of like top quarterbacks of that class i would assume yeah yeah bryson cj know each other a long time yeah yeah okay will levis too he had to transfer and like sometimes players come out of nowhere right because other teams are pumping them up like the whole Mac Jones thing. The Trey Lance noise got so loud that eventually like flipped the Niners almost it feels like.

Yeah, the Mac Jones Trey Lance noise was wild. Crazy up until the day of. Wasn't that, AJ? That was really wild. I wonder if they knew, if they actually knew and then they didn't decide until day of. That's why news kind of came out. That particular day we had a source tell us

that particular thing. And that kind of set off a chain of events on that particular draft day that was wild. I don't know if we'll ever be able to encapsulate what that day was like from our standpoint and how everything was unfolding. But

Carolina knows, right? They know? I honestly don't know. I'm not, I am not sure either way. And also, if we know who's pulling the trigger, who's making the final decision, is it the owner? Lambeau said Tepper's making it. Tepper, yeah.

And he said that they wouldn't trade up if they didn't know who they were going to take. And he said, yeah, then I guess, yeah. And Lambeau said Bryce Young's the pick. I've been saying that for a month. We don't know if it's been a full month, but he's trying to say, like, I didn't feel this way. The whole month of April, at least. Yeah, this month of April.

This whole month. Right. That we're currently in. Yes. Already seven days in. I know. It's wild. Hey, life's flying, AJ.

Yeah, I know. Pretty quick. I got a baby coming soon. Yeah. Jeez. Yeah. It's awesome. Month?

Month, month and a half? Like, a little over a month? Yeah, a little over a month. Jeez. It's awesome. A little over a month. It's awesome. You have to get the house set up at all? Get that go bag. Get the go bag ready. Oh yeah, we got the hospital bag ready?

That was number one. You going to cut the cord? I think so, yeah. You can cut the cord. You can too, did you? Yeah, I did, but like I said, I stayed up top. I wasn't down in the danger zone. I was up there just petting my wife's head saying, good job.

Supportive. And then cut the cord and don't take a gander at anything down there. You have like four kids every time? Absolutely, yeah. My wife, she was on board with that. She's like, no, you're good. Yeah, you don't need to. I'm like, yeah, you know, I told you before, to. I'm like, yeah. I told you before, man.

Two girls, one cup messed me up for a couple years. I'm not kidding. Good point. Me too. I told my wife the same thing. She's like, I get it. I don't want you down there either. I didn't even think about the two girls, one cup thing because I used to gag immediately upon hearing

of it because I would think of that smoothie, soft smoothie. Yeah. Soft serve. Exactly. Ruins it. I did puke, obviously, the first couple times I came into the world. Where are those girls now? I honestly...

I think they're running a Fortune 500. They had to have died. I mean, the things they were putting into their bodies. Only fans, maybe? I don't know, dude. They would have made them. Somebody that's just guzzling poop, probably, you know, any other decisions. Yeah, that's true.

We hope they're okay. Honestly, we hope they're okay. Yeah, it is weird. They haven't popped up. You would think like one of the where are they now situations we'd see. Probably still guzzling poop. Yeah. True life, maybe.

I still like poop. Why don't you take this, you know, kind of on your shoulders. How did that get so famous? How did that get thrown around the world? Because everybody had the same reaction when they saw it. They vomited. And then some people were able to get past it and laugh at it. I, like you, numerous years into the future,

anytime I heard about it, it was a... That one and Church of Fudge. I don't know which one you're talking about. I refuse to ever watch it. Never seen it. Church of Fudge? Sounds like you have to seek it out. Either of them.

I have never seen them. All right, because Two Girls, One Cup was shoved into my face. Sam Bennett is in second place. What's that? He just hit a long putt, too, Sam Bennett. But Ebby probably should, just so he has a reference on what we're talking about. No, I'm good. If people say it's gross, don't watch it.

I won't watch it. Foxy, here's what it is. You should watch it. Some people like it. Soft serve ice cream. Okay. Out of asshole into mouth. it is. Some people like it. Soft serve ice cream. Out of asshole into mouth. Not ice cream, though.

Diarrhea. Ask the mom. I just watch it. I'm good. You'd like the cinematic value of it, though, Foxy. You probably should. Yeah, because that bathroom video you created in high school. Exactly.

Kind of similar. Top Gun. Hey, this is your guys' generation, by the way. Yeah, it was fucked up. It was. It was a fucked up part of our generation. I will say, we didn't get everything right, dude. Your generation wouldn't be able to fucking last. Yeah, the Pain Olympics were a game changer.

Dude, I puked. Glass ass? I puked seeing it. I don't know that one. See, these are the things that I don't know. Oh, they're all great. This guy sits on the car and he brings. They're all great. You like that type of stuff. You shaped us as human beings, Scott. Really did. Didn't shape me, bro. They are crazy videos. That was like the birth of the internet was two girls as human beings, yeah. It really did. It didn't shape me, bro. They are crazy videos. That was like the birth of the internet was Two Girls, One Cup, you could say.

Yeah. It was dial-up, probably. People were getting it. So, like, for me, Kimbo Slice, one of the earliest. Yep, sure. Him just going in the backyards. You know what I mean? And then I think we experienced the pitfalls of the internet quickly with Two Girls, One Cup after that.

Yeah. It was like, oh, the internet's awesome. What do what do you see well i see this guy down in south florida he's got these uh he's kind of got a bald head and he's got uh dreads there and then he just walks into people's backyards and beats the fuck out of them that's sweet where's that at oh it's on a computer you gotta call and then you get there and you just gotta hold up mail you gotta hope that it updates yeah then obviously instant messenger obviously came into the game and everything was good yeah call, and then you get there, and you just got to hope. You got mail. You got to hope that it updates. Yeah, obviously, Instant Messenger obviously came into the game, and everything was good. Yeah. Everything was,

the internet's awesome. Holy shit. And then all of a sudden, two girls won Cubs Cup. It was like, the internet has some downfalls. Turn this off. Little did we know, though, that would just lead to a For You page on Twitter. Yeah, there you go. That would just be people getting their fucking heads caved in

on a regular basis. It's tough to see some of that stuff, AJ. I can't do it. Did the girls puke? Were they puking on each other too? No, they're professionals. I think one of them did. Yeah, they did. You would have to. There was puke. So that actually got me in trouble the night I got arrested.

They said, at some point, you should have puked. You did not. This means your body was used to it or whatever. And I said, do we know if I puked? Did you ask me if I puked? Nobody asked me. I was shirtless. That's probably why.

That's probably why I took the shirt off. Yeah, there's a puke on it. They're like, not once whenever you tell the story have you said that you puked in there or whatever. It's like, sue me. I probably did. And then bang, 27 months in the substance of abuse program. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you so much. Imagine if those girls didn't puke, though. That means their body's just used to it. Yeah, that's an issue. Which leads me to my next point. They're definitely dead, which is a shame. But they made some questionable decisions. Moment of silence, baby.

Let's go to... Put on a ticker. Two girls, one cop girl. R.I.P. Dead. Miss you, girls. Love you, you girls i did not i actually i hated every part of c i'm not going back to it i haven't gone back to it since i don't know ever i watched it but yeah ever can't wait to make your one no that's what remember i did get

something forced in my face by aj oh yeah i'm not good at those things i'm not i'm not good at watching this stuff i try to keep myself isolated away from all that stuff because i'm just like okay i get it you guys think it's disgusting awesome in my head don't have to watch it i'll just take your guys's you know kind of notes that's disgusting i'm gonna move on yeah that sounds like a fake report on the internet about one of the girls that i'm certainly not going to say into a microphone but uh have zeke say it go ahead zeke i saw that uh i saw a report that uh one of the girls did die a year later of dysteria dysentery that has to be a rumor that's what he said in my ear by the way for breaking news like that's what happens that's how the show works what he just said right there that's what happens that's that's what happens for everything what

they die from hey one of the girls died from dysteria that's what think about that we got to be the only show on earth oh yeah that's that type of operation no doubt ah zd baby good research we appreciate you let's go to the phones. Oh, man. Just had a visual. Oh, my God. It's tough thinking about it. All right.

Don't do it. Change of subject. Let's go to Swan in Wisconsin. What's going on, Swanee? See you, Swanee. Did I do that conversation it's got a jeff in oregon he's puking swanee was puking we just got an update

swanee uh i've been looking it up it's got a jeff don't do not just got a jeff in oregon how you doing jeff how we doing boys keep it moving jeff hell yeah holy shit i just gotta say it's an honor to have my voice echo through the sacred pews of the Thunderdome.

Wow, nobody can hear you in the Thunderdome. Just all our headphones are on. There's actually no sound out here, but we get what you're saying, and we're thankful. In my mind, it's just echoing through, and it's beautiful, and I love it. Thank you guys so much. Okay, sounds good. What I want to know is, we talk about how the ASC is stacked, right? We got Pat Mahomes.

We got Joe Burrow. We got Joe Burrow. We got fucking maybe Aaron Rodgers. I don't know. We got Justin Herbert. How come my boys from Duval don't get that same respect? We just beat Herbert down 27-0 at halftime last year. Our division's fucking easy. We're going to have another home playoff game this year.

We got Calvin Ridley we added. How come nobody's talking about my boys from Jacksonville, huh? All right, Jeff. Thank you, pal. Another conversation about the Jacksonville Jaguars that we need to have. Bauke has a clown figurine on his desk because the fans of the Jacksonville Jaguars for the last game against the Indianapolis Colts a couple years back, not all of them, a majority of them, dressed like clowns

because they felt as if the team was being run by clowns. That's how embarrassing the operation was down there. That was when Urban Meyer was the head coach and then let go. Balky was the GM. The Kahn family still owners now, were owners then. They had little to no expectations ever. First pick of the draft back-to-back years. That's tough

to do to be the worst team in the NFL back-to-back years. They're trying to make you better. So that convo has always been the convo about the Jags. Now the Jags beat the Colts in that Clontown game. And that's a division rival allegedly.

The division is weak. With the way Trevor Lawrence plays football, and with the video I just seen of them working out with Calvin Ridley and the boys out there, they're going to be damn good. They were damn good. And we're going to talk more about them. But I don't think the time is now strictly because of what the time has been in Jacksonville,

which is abysmal, which is not your fault. The fans are excited, I think, for the future. But that's why it's not the constant conversation, AJ. I think if you're a Jags fan, you should obviously be very excited about the team you have going forward. They look like they are a legit contender for some time moving forward, but also enjoy the fact that you're under the radar. This is great for them.

You don't want the expectations to be too high because you can just take the whole league by storm, which I think they kind of did last year. They definitely kind of started. They set the roots going the right way, I feel like. In the conversation with the Jags kind of has been this offseason, yeah, they're going to be in it. I feel like even though we're not talking about them as much as the other guys,

the assumption is, yeah, the Jags are going to win the AFC South, no doubt about it. And Doug Peterson has won before. He's down there now. Trevor Lawrence appears to be a guy. Joining us now is a man who has a massive weekend because UFC 287 is tomorrow night. There's a massive grudge match that's about to take place for the title. Izzy Adesanya will battle against his longtime rival,

Pereira, in what will be electrifying in the beautiful city of Miami as Street Jesus Jorge Masvidal takes on Gilbert Burns. It'll be a great fight night and the man to put it all together. Ladies and gentlemen, the incomparable Dana White. Yeah, Dana! What's up, dude? What's up,

boys? How are you? Hey, we wasted some of your time. We apologize. I had to run and take a piss, and I actually pulled my popliteus, which is a muscle in the back of my knee, so I had to waddle to the shitter. We apologize for being a little late, pal. No, it's all good, man. I liked watching it. I liked watching how you're such a rock star now, walking through the back halls. Everybody wants to talk you, touch you.

Whoa! Yes, rip your tie off, put your shirt on. Come on. Good stuff. Well, I'm trying to be Dana White, you know, and not that you're ever wearing a tie, but you are always on the move. Are you down in Miami already, and how is the vibe? I am.

It's incredible. You know what's amazing about this city is, you know, I was reading this stat. Traffic here is horrendous. Terrible. I was reading this stat where, like, almost a half a million people have moved here in the last year. So this place is jumping, man. We went to a, I had dinner with my old partner,

Lorenzo Fertitta last night. And I went to meet my crew after at midnight at this, at this restaurant place was packed. The streets are packed at midnight this place reminds me of what la was 10 years ago um okay i've heard the great news i've seen it on the internet getting to experience it i assume is a different animal it's just alive and well because weren't they putting for spring break i think they were putting like curfews in order because it was getting too wild i think like two weeks ago you could see how that could be the case, it appears. Yeah, it's incredible. The buzz and energy down here is great.

The weather's good every day. I'm looking out my window right now. The beach is packed all the way up and down. People are walking up and down the streets and shopping. It's just Miami is as hot as Miami has ever been. Congratulations, Miami. Let's go. Go ahead, AJ.

Dana, what does it feel like ahead of this big event? Miami, obviously, unbelievable place, but sometimes when there's a lot of other great things to do, people don't pay as much attention. Maybe like a football team, say, out in California, like, oh, why would I go to the game? I want to surf. Is Miami similar to that, or are people still pretty juiced for the event?

Incredible question, brother, because let me tell you what. We haven't been here in 20 years 20 years ago i came down here we did a live gate of like 446 000 and i said i will never come back here again and uh here i am 20 years later and this gate is like we're probably going to hit 11.5 million dollars on the gate your place is sold out it's packed and the uh it's the biggest gate outside of uh las vegas and madison square garden in the united states miami is on a whole nother level now man i'm telling you 10 years ago la was one of the greatest cities in the country maybe maybe even in the world. Not so much now.

And when you look at Miami now, Miami is exactly what L.A. used to be. It's fascinating to see this down here. It's fascinating in my mind right now whether or not we just throw a little gasoline in there and say, what do you think happened to L.A., to you? But we will keep this positive because we've got a massive weekend. But to AJ's point there, you talked about the $450,000 gate. Like some people, those Miami Heat games, people don't even show up until late. Oh, yeah.

UFC fights, I mean, I think that's kind of status quo. But straight Gs being in there has to be a big deal, right? Obviously, Jorge Masvidal, that's a great decision by you to have that take place. And I think business sense, it'll make up for itself as well. Yeah, absolutely. Listen, whenever you go into one of these towns, you can have one of the hometown guys on the card, especially when they're a huge superstar like he is. It makes all the sense in the world. But that doesn't always work out with timing. And you'd be surprised, but a lot of guys don't like to fight in their hometown like it used to be.

There's a lot of pressure on them. Everybody hitting them up for tickets. People, you know, everywhere they go, everybody's out. You know, it's a lot of pressure for a guy to fight in his own hometown. But, yeah, no, you're not wrong. It's a big deal. Jorge's ready for it, I assume. And obviously the main event is a big deal because it's a rematch

and these guys have known each other for a long time. And we'll dive into that at some point. But we have to talk whenever you talk about gate and business and how good your business is about the addition of the wwe into the endeavor family did you know this was happening were you a part of the conversation i understand re manual runs endeavor which purchased ufc and then said hey dana we need you to stick around. We're going to pay you a hilarious amount of money to continue to do your thing. And the price valuation, SmartPlay, has only gone up since the Endeavor purchase. And obviously, pay-per-views break records and gate record breaking all the time. WWE, Vince McMahon sticking around.

Endeavor does the purchase. How much did you know? How much were you involved? And how do you feel about it, Dana? Yeah, it's one of the great things about Ari and why he's such a great partner and why he's so good to work with. You know, he came in and he bought the UFC. They asked me to stay. And Ari is one of those guys that he lets you run your business. He lets you do what you do. And I actually met with the McMahons the last time I was in New York to really talk about it. They wanted to know what it was like to be in business with them and everything else.

And obviously, I couldn't say anything but incredible positive things about it. Ari is one of those guys, you run your business, and if you need him, pick up the phone and call him, and he can make anything happen. So I think how this is going to affect our company, it won't at all. I mean, we're going to keep doing what we do. How it affects WWE is I think that there's a lot of value that Ari can add on the business side, whether it's licensing, sponsorship, and the list goes on and on'll he'll help grow those different areas of their business and you know they're valued at nine billion watch and see what they are in five years yeah that seems to be the thing that happened to UFC obviously when it was purchased for like

four billion or five billion or six maybe six and a half six whatever it was it's now like 11 point something and whenever there was purchase I think what's that? 4.02 billion. And, uh, you know, we always knew there was room for growth and what we wanted to do. And the Fertittas were really good about this. Just like Bob Meyerowitz, who sold it to us, Bob Meyerowitz felt like we were guys that could take it to another level. And the same thing happened when we sold to Ari. You wanted to sell it to a guy who could help grow the business and take it to another level. And that's exactly what Vince has done too. When you look at all the

suitors out there and all the people that possibly want to buy your business, you want to sell it to the group that you think can take it to another level. Yeah, yours only has grown 3x in valuation, right, since then? I think that they did they did the yeah right that's pretty good hey not bad okay because when it went for four billion obviously

everybody knows the story of you and the fatigues buying it for like very cheap in comparison to then it goes for four billion everybody's like damn what a fucking american business story and a lot of people are like never never going to get that money back. These are haters, obviously. Never going to get them. Not me. Not me. Not me.

A lot of people saying that's a lot of money for UFC. And now it's worth $12 billion. It's like three. Are you fucking kidding me? That has to feel good, Dana. Most of the media out there, my buddies in the media, we're talking about Ari overpaid for it. Stupidest thing ever. UFC has peaked. This is the end of it. And I always talk about when media people start talking about

business, these guys have never done anything. They've never built anything. Nobody's ever depended on them for a paycheck. They're some of the dumbest people on earth when they talk about business. It's fascinating. And, yeah, you're absolutely right. Okay. Well, I want to let you know, over here in the NFL world, there's a lot of people talking about business that have no idea what they're talking about either. So I think that is just a common problem.

But you've handled business incredibly well. You should be proud of yourself. You also look good. We still ketoing? Still keto? I will never. We'll do an interview in three years and I'll still be keto. I will never stop keto. I'm doing it for the rest of my life. Okay. So I know a couple of people who've been able to commit to keto for 17 years. I think Brock Lesnar said he's been doing keto for 15 years on our show. I think that was the thing. Most people say they can't stick with it. Obviously you have the access to have the food and the chef.

You think your taste buds will be able to handle it or does that not matter? Oh, it's, it's, it's been amazing for me. It's, it's completely this whole Gary Brekka, this human biologist that I hooked up with 10 months ago in Miami has completely changed my life, man. I'm not on any more doctors, pills, no more medicine, no thyroid, no blood pressure, no cholesterol medicine. All I'm on are supplements, natural supplements. I don't snore anymore. I don't have sleep apnea. I don't have high blood pressure. My legs used to be all messed up from blood flow and cholesterol all gone.

I feel like I'm 20 years old again. This guy has completely changed my life. Okay, Dana, the jackhammer's back. Hell yeah. Okay, we like that, pal. Happy for you. Connor has a question for you, Dana. Yeah, Dana, obviously the Jon Jones fight everyone watched,

and he's going at it with Stipe coming up here. There's a lot of talk with inganu now is he done completely with the ufc or do you think there's a chance that you and him might work something out and he could come back no we we worked with this guy for two years to try to get him a fight he's absolutely impossible to deal with he's no he'll never be in the UFC again. So he made his decision. We worked hard, man. And one of my guys, Hunter Campbell, who works for me, must have done 75 dinners with this guy trying to get him on board. We offered him a lot of money, showed him nothing but respect.

We wanted to keep him, and that ship has sailed. Why? Why didn't he want to? He just didn't think you were meeting the criteria? Because he comes from what? Like a sand factory mining. Like his story is incredible and just couldn't get to the number. What was it?

Was it everything else? What is it? I have no idea. I literally don't even think about it anymore. We've moved on. And, you know, and the bottom line is there's no doubt John Jones is the best heavyweight in the world. So John Jones will fight whoever until John Jones decides to retire. It's fascinating because when you think about John Jones disappeared for a few years,

then he pops up and says he wants to fight one of these guys. He doesn't care who it is. He'd have fought Francis. He'd have fought Stipe, you know, Cyril, whoever it is. Then he comes in and he starts talking like, I'm going to walk right through this guy. I'm going to make it look so easy. And I'm like, Jesus Christ, that's a pretty bold statement to say. Then he does it and, poof, he's gone again.

John Jones goes back underground. And, you know. And let me know when the Stipe fight's done. He is a fascinating, talented artist to deal with. So you have not heard from him since? Wow. I haven't heard a word on him.

What do you mean? Hey, John, congratulations on David Copperfield. Yeah. He's back in New Mexico doing whatever he does, man. He's shooting on David Copperfield. Yeah. That is awesome. He's back in New Mexico doing whatever he does, man. He's shooting guns. He's got German Shepherds.

He's, you know, doing his thing. Hey, congrats to Jon Jones. He's fucking through. That is awesome. Go ahead, AJ. Dana, coming from the position you have and so many people getting at you, isn't that kind of nice, kind of a relief

that you don't have to deal with a guy every single day, probably trying to text you and bug you about things? Yeah. I mean, I love making the big fights and making fights that should happen when they're supposed to happen. But, you know, in the history of this company, since I've been here, right, 22, 23 years, whatever it is, there's only two fights where we weren't able to make. A Fedor fight with Brock Lesnar and then a Francis Ngannou fight. Not a bad record and, you know, I'll take it. You know why? I think it's because the way you go about doing business, everybody knows exactly what they're getting. For instance, yesterday, press conference to promote a fight, you know, you have Jorge Masvidal and Gilbert Burns there. And they ask a question about, you know,

Colby Covington or the next opportunity at the title. And you go, Colby Covington cut weight in London. He's got the next one. Then you take your drink of water. Then there's booing. You know, there's a little bit of a scene. And then it's like, all right, next question. This is how this is going to be.

You've always been that way. Heavy is the head, I guess. Making those decisions, you're not always going to be a fan favorite. Is that something you even worry about at this stage of anything? No, I didn't listen. Uh, our fans are, our fans are pretty good, man. They, uh, you know, we got to set up the thing that drives me crazy is yesterday we're up there and we're dealing with some of these MMA guys that are just fucking stupid, uh, uh, unprofessional and looking for clickbait and dumb shit.

You had these guys going up. Kevin Holland and Masvidal got into it. So they want to get up and start asking questions. Why did you guys get in a fight? What's going on? Shut the fuck up. These guys aren't fighting. It's not a good thing that they got in a fight

in the background. It's so disrespectful to the guy that they're actually fighting. Do you have questions? They're going to these guys are going to fight these other guys that are sitting up on the stage. Do you have any intelligent questions that you would like to ask them? And then that other fucking idiot gets up there and goes, no, the WWE deal is done. Who would you like to hit with a fucking chair? You motherfucker. That's fucked up. now that the WWE deal is done who would you like to hit with a fucking chair you motherfucker that's what we like

fuck up hell yeah that's what I gotta deal with every fucking weekend listen to this fucking idiot hey I'm happy that the doctor you know down there in Miami was able to get you into fighting shit you know because it feels like Miami was able to get you into fighting shit.

You know, because it feels like you are as sharp as a tack and have the energy to withstand this because it's a lot of bullshit that you got to deal with. Are you going to do this forever? Is this what you're going to do forever, deal with this? And do they know that? Do the people that cover the sport who ask you the questions know that you're potentially going to be around forever? Yeah, now that I got Gary Brekka, I'm going to do this till I'm 90.

Nice. Coming in there. Hell yeah. Fuck you. Still doing the whole thing. Have you thought about that or no? What? How long? How long you do this? Because you love it, it seems. A lot of things that I want to do. You know, the amazing thing about this business is there's no ceiling on this thing. There is no ceiling.

So, when you think about it, the population continues to grow every year. There's eight point something billion people in the world. Streaming is becoming a very real thing. And I believe that like when you look at the United States where we have Fox, ABC, NBC, CBS, there is going to be the equivalent to those globally. right? And as we continue to build the sport, we move into these new markets. I continue to build performance institutes in these different countries. We got one in China. We got one in the United States. We're building one in Abu Dhabi. We're building one right now in Mexico City. I want to build one in Brazil. I want to build one

in Africa. And as these things continue to pop up and we continue to create this new, unbelievable, up-and-coming talent and grow the sport, there is no ceiling on this thing. So the global, the globality of the WWE is very real with the UFC as well. Like the global audience matters. I think that's why we're seeing the Masters right now. They have this business in golf on lock because they have global rights deals. I think that are up almost every year that they're renegotiating all over the place with endeavor and you said you think that there will be global networks is that a thought you think for endeavor because you and the wwe have very similar styles the wwe has performance centers all around the globe and their international

rights tv deals are a big part of the business same Same with you with pay-per-view buys. Is that something that you think Endeavor has thought about? Or what do you think those networks will be founded by going forward? 100%. I mean, if you look at starting back in the 80s, I mean, sports rights have just been going like this. If you look at the new deal that the NFL just left DirecTV and went to YouTube. I mean, it just keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger. And one of the things that we learned, a lot of things we learned during COVID,

but one of the things we did learn is you cannot live without sports. I mean, TV shows can pop up left and right, and maybe you'll watch some, maybe people won't. Live sports is an absolute machine, and it's an absolute must. We have to have them. Life is not the same without live sporting events. Tiger King came in there for like four days. Yeah, that's right.

Last dance. Gave us a good four or five days. The last dance gave us a couple days. Sports, though, I became an Aussie Rules football fan because it was the only fucking sport that was on. You just need to watch it. And what you have is like the most basic form of competition that every human wants to watch.

It's great business. It's great business. You've done a fantastic job with it. Ty, I have a question for you. Dana, after the WWE deal got done, a lot of people online were saying like, oh, you know, look for more crossover between the UFC and the WWE to happen in the future. And granted, you guys had amazing success more crossover between the UFC and the WWE to happen in the future. And granted, you guys had amazing success with Brock, but he's one of one. And then you look

at, you know, CM Punk and not so much when he goes over there. Do you see that actually being a thing where there's going to be some crossover between your two promotions? Maybe not so much with wrestlers coming in and fighting in the octagon, but with big stars from the UFC showing up on WWE programming? Not really. I mean, it wouldn't happen any more than it has, regardless of the relationship. When you had people who were interested in becoming professional wrestlers, I mean, it was something that I was never really against anyway.

I mean, if that's what they wanted to do, and they felt like their career was winding down and they were talented enough to do it and the WWE was actually interested in them, I never had a problem with that. But when you talk about guys coming over here in the UFC, Brock is definitely a one of one. You know what I mean? I'd say. At a very high level collegiateiate he's he's a big dude he's agile for being as big as he is and he came over here and he won the title there's not going to be any of that type of crossover and then you had you know all the dummies online oh no this is going all going to be fake too we're sanctioned by the athletic commissions in every state, you morons, okay? The government

oversees us. There's not going to be, you know, they got the judges, they got the referees, they have all that stuff. And you can gamble on this. It's just like, nothing's going to change. It's exactly the same. The parent company can deliver a lot of things to both businesses. And if you're a guy like Ari, right, and we're going into renegotiations with arenas, Ari has the UFC, the WWE, PBR, and lots of other things. So he becomes very powerful. And also when you're talking about renegotiating television rights like you were a minute ago, this company is an absolute powerhouse now.

I'd say. Go ahead, AJ. Another powerhouse that you mentioned last time you were on. It was doing very well. How about Slap League? Where are you at with that right now? And I'm sure it continues to grow. People still getting locked up?

I assume they are. Yeah. It's been unexplainable, guys. I mean, the success that this thing has had, you know, it's been around for weeks. Weeks. Wrap your head around that. Weeks. We have three and a half million followers on TikTok and Instagram already in weeks.

Three billion social impressions. 250. Right now, we are the biggest short on YouTube ever. These are all stats. These are all stats from the slap. We look these up. The numbers that your slap league are doing is fucking absurd. Now, slapping people in the mouth on the internet has always been successful.

Creating it to become a league and a way for people to make money, I think, is good vision by you. You're taking it on the shins as these people are taking it in their buttons. But the fucking numbers speak for themselves digitally. And that's the whole strategy, right? This is the whole strategy. 100%. So I told you guys last time I was with you. When I launched this thing, we put it on television.

We built a digital strategy. We built a social strategy. And it's almost sort of a test to see how this works. As I told you, I saw it back in 18. It looked like they filmed it on a fucking flip phone in a basement. And the thing's pulling 350 million views. I was like, God damn, what if you did this the right way? Now, think about this.

This thing is weeks old, right? On YouTube, we are the biggest YouTube short ever in sports. We did something like 250 million views, right? The biggest one on YouTube for the NFL is 21 million. NBA, it's like Formula 1, 7.8. And the WWE's biggest one is 64 million. We destroy everybody in sports with power slap yeah digitally socially it is a big success because it's hard not to be you see two people

standing right next to each other staring each other it's hard not to be like all right what's going on what the hell is about to happen here and then you see the pump fakes and then you see the pump fix and then and then boom start the clock oh now there's a clock okay got 30 seconds and then bang we're back and it's like what the fuck is this it's like perfect internet yeah it is like perfect internet are you going to be able to business wise take advantage how do you plan on making the most of this as a company well we we did this we did this deal with rumble and what's crazy is it's

very reminiscent of the deal that i did with spike tv except it's bigger okay which is fascinating so hell yeah no you when you look at where spike was when we started with them and you look at where rumble is now we're starting rumble now has 80 million access to 80 million uh people when we did the finale 2.3 million people tuned in to watch the finale and 1.7 million of them had never been to rumumble before. 69% of the people who tuned in were 30 years old and younger. And where this thing really works is it works on social media, right? And it's really, really good in bars. So we're building this whole social media platform.

We're building a digital strategy. And we're building a bar business over the next couple of years. Okay. So Amazon was able to negotiate with somebody to get into the bars for their Thursday night football deal. I assume you'll just have to do the same thing there. Exactly what we will do. We'll do the same thing with rumble. And I told everybody six months ago, watch what I do with this power slap thing in the next few months. And I'm going to tell you guys now, watch what I do over the next two years years is there any chance that this thing doesn't have success with you it sounds like this is a real i don't say passion project for you but it feels like a lot of people have told you this won't fucking work you shouldn't fucking do it with only makes you oh is that right you know is that

what's happening here with power slap yeah think? You're absolutely right, my friend. Me and Lorenzo Fertitta have been down here for like two, three days. Every meeting we've been doing is PowerSlam meetings right now. Sponsors, we're going to Abu Dhabi for season two. That feels like a lot. Yeah. Slap Island. Wait to shove this up everybody's ass.

I can't wait. All right, let's talk about UFC 287 tomorrow. Obviously, you got the Masters happening of golf right into a stacked card down in Miami with Jorge Masvidal and Gilbert Burns battling. Then Alex Pereira and Izzy Adesanya. Obviously, Stylebender is one of the greatest athletes on Earth. What are you expecting out of tomorrow's fight card and how electrifying you

think that building is going to be Dana? Yeah. I mean, obviously the main event is awesome. You know, uh, everybody's going to be fired up about that. The co-main event, you know, with Burns and Masvidal, um, the fight with, um, um, the Yanez fight is awesome. With, you know, the new young kid that we brought in. Rob Font. Rob Font.

Yeah, Rob Font, too. Yeah, Rob Font. And I'm talking about Raul and Christian Rodriguez. You know, 7-0 undefeated versus 8-1. And then, yeah, the Rob Fontott fight with Giannis is going to be an absolute war. A couple Massachusetts and New England folks fighting tomorrow night. Obviously, we all

remember when the... Chris Moutinho. Moutinho beat up Sean O'Malley's hands with his face. You know, it seems like every time those New England people get in there, we got lightning and fireworks. We assume the same tomorrow. Congrats on all the success.

Enjoy the hell out of Miami, Dana. Yeah, thanks for everything, guys. It's always a pleasure, man. Hell yeah, you're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, Dana White. Yeah! What do you say? What do you say?

The more you persecute, the stronger the belief. What was it? Yeah, like the more you are persecuted from the outside, the stronger you are in your beliefs. Feels like that's Slapply. Yeah, power slap ain't going anywhere. Dana is not going to let that thing go. Not going to let it go.

He's like the biggest that, you know, the NFL has short-wise. You ever heard of them? YouTube shorts. These are new, you know, reels or TikToks or whatever they're called. Google's gotten into the game. You know the biggest one in the NFL? It's 21 million. Pretty good.

21 million. That's a lot of people. That's huge. 250 is what we got. 250 million. Okay? That's how many people are watching. You might not like it.

People love it. This is how it goes. Pretty bummed. That's what Dana's thinking. You know what I mean? Yeah, Tone, you have a Rumble account. How is it? You've been watching on there?

Those numbers seem weird. Yeah. Yeah, interesting. You say 80 million? That's a Rumble account. How is it? You've been watching on there? Those numbers seemed weird. Yeah. Yeah, interesting. I'd say 80 million. That's a lot of people. How many people are... I guess it is a global thing. Yeah, true.

Fighting is very global. Dana's audience is a global audience. UFC is a global audience. You have fighters from all over the world. Plugged in everywhere, yeah. Everywhere. Like South America, obviously. Africa has fighters.

Yep. Australia has fighters. Russia. Europe has fighters australia has fighters russia europe has fighters russia china yeah they built a ufc institute in china yeah i mean they're everywhere a lot of people over there that means he did business that'd be how's that work yeah we'll ask him next time that's one of those things that like as a journalist i guess i don't do great because as soon as i hear he's ever there i go wow so many people gonna watch that's my first thought is like business wise like oh my god so many people has bula's hand he did yeah and he also got him a bunch of shoes too that's the first time we talked to him a long time we didn't ask about bula well we did last time kind of feel like we're the only time for that

yeah bula's come under some fire recently. Unfortunately. Treatment of his cat. He's pinching his ears and putting them in a hole and punishing them. What? This is on the internet? He wasn't punishing them.

Yeah, he was. He was punishment, but he didn't know. That's how they do it in Dagestan and where he's from. I was going to say... What type of cat? Where he comes from, cats are the devil, which where I come from, cats are the devil too, but... Have you ever met any of my cats or good cats?

Yeah, no, he loves cats. I like Teddy. I think I've only met Teddy. Teddy's a good cat. Yeah. Teddy, though, if Teddy saw a bull that's smacking it, Teddy certainly... Smack him back.

Not immediately, but locking it in and going like, okay, wait for this human to walk past this particular place at this particular time. Sure. And I'm coming, you know. Mountain lion. I do know that if it was a mass casualty event, those cats would eat my body.

I don't, you know, I hope if I was to die, I hope my cats would at least get to eat me if there was, you know what I mean? Let them live. For sure. Always have a part of you. You have a cat, AJ? No, I do not.

Cats scare me. Okay, so I was never a cat person either. And then Sam obviously brings a couple cats into my life. I'm a big fan. Cats are sweet. They're awesome. I'm a big fan of cats. I've become a big fan of cats.

Hasn't always been that way, but I've become a big fan of them.'t always been that way but i've become a big fan of them i mean they kill a lot of animals out there a lot of small a lot of small animals birds they serve a purpose and the domestic ones like they're just like dogs but they can handle their own shit exactly yeah they can kind of handle it which is cool now granted inside of them they do have that inner lion that you have to yeah you know, wonder about. Remember. But if you build up enough mana with your cat. That's right. Great way to put it. Exactly. You will never hopefully be on the returning end of that.

Like I thought yesterday the Nova, our one cat that was literally in a dumpster at a fast food place, then jumped into Sam's car and then, okay, your i'm your cat now just moved in with sam that's how it how it all happened she you know because sam's pregnant the cats have sensed it noticed it and everything like that i wonder what nova would do if a human was to come in and try to maybe wreck shop against uh our household i do believe nova would fuck i think she'd go down swinging. Yeah, go off.

You know what I mean? I think the little lion is also a good thing to have in the house every once in a while. I don't know if she would win against many humans, obviously. She's going to be a nuisance, though. Yeah, that's why Bengal cats are very interesting. I think Drake has one. I saw him post a picture.

Bieber, too. They got one of those jungle cats in their house. I don't recommend that. Yeah. Grow to, like, three feet. Seems dangerous. Pretty sweet. You got to take some clothes in.

You got to take some clothes or blankets into the hospital to introduce them to the new baby, to introduce them to the smell of the animals, and also take blankets from the hospital home to the animals so they don't pounce on your baby. Okay. Is that what we got to do? Yes. That's smart. People do that so they get used to the smell or whatever, so it's not like pounce on your baby. Okay. Is that what we got to do? Yes. It's smart. People do that.

So they get used to the smell or whatever. So it's not like a foreign thing coming into their house. You know, those cats and whatever, otters, everything you have living over there, like they're the new world when a baby comes in. I haven't seen any otters. Tim McAfee swears that he's seen an otter, though, in the back of the house.

Did he shoot it? No. Didn't just open fire into the lake. Lucky charms, probably. Wow. We have a fox over there now. Yeah, that thing's just chilling. That thing has made its home, actually, your pool yard over there. So, yeah, it has.

It's just hanging. It's hair, too, just fucking all over the place. Yeah, he's walked down there. It's that warm pool. Yeah, can't get in the pool yet, but I assume the fox will make its way into the pool at some point. It might melt. It does that warm pool. Yeah, I can't get in the pool yet, but I assume the fox will make its way into the pool at some point. It might melt.

It does use all of the chairs, though. All the chairs. Why don't you just shoot it? Whoa. It's a fox. It might kill one of your cats. The cats will fuck up this fox. Here's Drake's jungle cat that he has in his house.

Yep, that's the jungle cat beasties that thing's huge bro that thing can jump up on top of anything oh yeah cause cats like to be at the top that's like their thing look out and then if that thing comes down sideways on you it doesn't recognize you I mean who knows probably right to the throat

can't have Drake losing his throat well we could no search and rescue brand new song today AJ Drake put out a new one today Is it good? Yeah Bruce couldn't go to Future last night

Because he was Anticipating the new Drake song Search and Rescue It's a bit of a bop You can bop to it I saw Bruce doing one of these Get a little bop going No 360s like Posner?

No Just bops You do 360s to Posner? No, just pops. You do 360s to Posner? On occasion. When you take a pill and a visa. You gotta take in the whole scene, you know? Yeah, he was doing this one here. Yeah!

That was awesome. That was a corporate party. Yeah, Bruce is like a foot taller than everyone in the crowd, too. Bruce, you made that party, Bruce. Not as much as Posner, but you know. Yeah, Posner made the party. I was just happy to be there. Corso on the sax. What are we talking about here?

Every once in a while, we'll put on a throwback Posner banger in here in the Thunderdome. It'll really feel good because it'll remind us of the times where Posner was just an artist trying to make good music. Because now Posner is an artist who's still making good music. What's still making good music. What? Still making good music.

Now he's just a huge weirdo. What's he doing now? He's being weird all the time. He's just spreading good mana. That is all he does every single day. He's spreading good mana. Yes, he is. Zion, why are you being so negative? First with Zion, now with Posner. Zion, that comes from a place

of love. I love watching him play. I do not want to see him balloon up to 385. None of us do. No one does. Let's go to the phone line. Let's go to Alex in California. What's going on, Alex? Hey, what's happening, Pat and the boys?

What's going on, Alex? Hey, how we doing? Keep it moving? Thank you. Basically, I tried to call in on Monday, and I've been talking to my coworker about it for the longest time. What about Aaron Rodgers getting traded to the 49ers? And then on Tuesday, it came out that, oh, after the darkness or whatever,

he was considered playing for the Jets. Now, previously, before or whatever, he was considered playing for the Jets. Now, previously, before the darkness, he was considered retiring. But now, is it possible that the Niners can maybe get rid of Trey Lance because he was technically a first-round draft pick? So you get rid of Trey Lance, you give the Packers the other draft picks that they were asking for, and then possibly Aaron Rodgers you know reconstruct his contract makes a team-friendly deal for the Niners how could he say no to that like every uh every everybody who even considers Aaron Rodgers going to the Niners think they're

instantly going to the NFC championship agreed now do you think the Packers would want to do business with the Niners follow-up with Jordan a first-round draft pick for the Green Bay Packers, being the quarterback that they have to see before he inevitably just leaves Green Bay and never get played. What would happen with him? And follow-up, just to redo his contract to go to the Niners, just to play for the hometown team? Is that what you think? Well, I mean, he grew up a Niner fan or whatever. He grew up a Niner fan.

He always wanted to test those waters and whatnot. So I would love to get Ty Smith. Would you take Trey Lance as a backup to Jordan Love? Oh, Trey Lance could be a backup to Jordan Love. Hell yeah.

That's a great play. That's a great trade, actually. Oh, Trey Lance could be a backup to the run. That's kind of like... Hell yeah. Keep the trade. Fine, I would, yeah. That's a great play. That's a great trade, actually. Alex, good call. You know, Jordan Love has Trey Lance. Hell yeah. Now you've got two guys. I saw Trey Lance throwing with Patrick Mahomes.

He looked like he was spinning it. I mean, there was breakdowns of what he looked like coming out of college into the NFL, throwing a football to this particular throw, which is a dart, it does appear. He's working out with Patrick Mahomes. That can only be a good thing, you would assume. Trey Lance might be a guy we have no idea.

Jordan Love might be a guy we have no idea. So maybe we should put them both on the same team and figure it out. Why not? Let's do a Trey Lance great athlete. Maybe he plays tight end next year. Whoa. Okay. Did you see him throwing with Patrick Mahomes?

I did. He looks good throwing a ball cap on, too. I I like that I think that says a lot about a quarterback but um why not why not put him a tight end maybe H back AJ why don't you do you talk to Aaron since he got the rocks or anything like that since the workout with Lazar do you think the Niners are maybe in play here I don't know it'd be interesting to see if the Niners did try to make a play for him but Ty Ty are you saying you're not as swayed by like workout videos in the offseason as some I don't know. It'd be interesting to see if the Niners did try to make a play for him. But, Ty, are you saying you're not as swayed by, like, workout videos in the offseason as some people may be? No, on the other side of it, I'm saying when I see a quarterback who has a ball cap on forwards and he throws a fucking seed,

I say, okay, there's something here. This guy's got something. Thank you, Ty. You get it. Ty gets it. What were you saying? What if it was backwards? What if the hat was backwards?

Still pretty cool, but not as cool as Ford's ball cap. Good ball right here. This is a fucking strike. Thing is moving. How cool would that be to be able to just throw like that? And then Pat says, okay. Boom. It's kind of weird he's not wearing a ball cap.

Yeah, I mean, and if we're breaking down throws, Trey Lance's looks to be a little more on the line than Mahomes. Is that Des? No, it was MVS, I believe. The wide out? us. Trey Lance's looks to be a little more on the line than Mahomes. Is that Des? No, it was MVS, I believe. The wide out? Yeah. In the video, I think it was tagged MVS. Could be wrong. Okay. Hey, great catch, man. MVS

flying around. And you know, Jordan Love wishes he had an MVS. Who are the weapons? Just Dobbs, Watson, Aaron Jones. Torre, maybe Aaron Jones. A.J. Dillon.

We'll see. I wouldn't be surprised if they try to get Smith and Jigler a tight end in the first round. Oh, they're going to take a weapon in the first round. I think so. A.J., how great would that be? That would be fucking awesome. Classic. Would you be shocked?

No. No, but it would be such an interesting little wrinkle of it all it'd be a final fuck you that's like if aaron goes to all the otas and all the off-season workouts and does everything like that a lot of the green bay people would be like this is what we're and then green bay drafts a wide receiver and first this is what we what the hell what are we oh that's because humans are involved. And there's pride, ego, and things like that taking place. It'd be a chef's kiss for good to coons.

You're talking about one of these. Yeah. Gotcha, bitch. I can see him taking multiple offensive guys this year. Every pick. Yeah, right. Wide receiver. Speed, speed, speed, speed, speed.

Let's go to the phones. Let's go to James in Ohio on the 5RNG phone line. Go to 5RNG.com. Use promo code McAfee to receive 20% off all your 5RNG purchases. Remember, they got delicious flavors. This isn't the old school 5RNG that tastes like ass. No, no. No, no.

The same incredible boost of energy for at least five hours and incredible flavors. All available at 5RNG.com. Promo code McAfee, 20% off off what do you want to talk about james speaking of ass happy two girls one cup friday boys all right did kind of become that for about 15 20 minutes what do you want to talk about other than that hey listen carolina without a doubt has taken cj stroud and this is why. Bryce Young, Baker Mayfield, Johnny Manziel, all undersized quarterbacks, Heisman winners. Once they got to the league, batted balls, tipped passes, so much that Carolina got a taste of it last year

that they didn't end up studying on what causes tipped balls and batted passes. Sorry about it, Bryce. Start looking for real estate in Houston. All right, James, he has it figured Bryce. Start looking for real estate in Houston. Alright, James has, uh, he hasn't figured out. Oh my God. We didn't get the answer. What causes the bad boys? Size, yeah.

And Carolina did experience Baker Mayfield last year, so maybe that changes things, AJ. Yeah, I don't know. I haven't heard a lot of, like, Johnny Manziel comparisons to Bryce Young and C.J. Stroud so far, but I don't know. Maybe I'm not paying attention. Yeah, we might have missed all the conversation.

We left out Kyler. Speaking of conversation, I think Kyler just got paid. Steve Kime went on Chris Long's Greenlight podcast and talked a little bit about Kyler. He said he's a good guy, great human, just needs a good smile. He Hone in. Good smile. Good smile. Needs to hone in on some things. To grow up. Needs to grow up. Or what do they say?

Yeah, well, that's what Beecham said, basically. Yeah. Keim was answering a question about what Beecham said. And said he just needs to kind of continue to grow and find out about the details, pretty much. Is what Steve Keim said. So, I don't think he's given up hope on Kyler Murray. I think he was speaking from a place of enjoying Kyler Murray, liking Kyler Murray as a person, wishing for Kyler Murray's success. Obviously, he's the one that gave him the contract

and drafted him and everything like that. So he is also admitting that there's some things that he's got to work on. Hopefully, Kyler will be able to hear all this noise and become a better quarterback for the good of his team and his legacy. I'm sure he will. And I know like a couple minutes ago on the old chat i think they posted a picture kyler is posting something from uh off-season workout showing how he's getting back on the field he was squatting with a sleeve on and

kyler is an absolute dog athletically the only man that's ever been drafted top five i believe or top 10 top 10 top 10 in both MLB and the NFL. His talent is never-ending. It's like pasta or salad from Olive Garden. It's just, is that enough to win is what a lot of people ask, and whenever they have that clause in a contract that no quarterback has ever had, it immediately makes all of us question, does this guy care as much as everybody else?

He's an incredible video gamer. He's got incredible talent. Everybody seems to like him as a person. Will he ever be able to be the guy? I think he looks to quell that answer. You said you threw up from two girls, one cup. I almost threw up by people who tweet a video or something like that and says, Kyler Murray squatting 13 weeks after.

And then they put that fucking sentence at the bottom that says, Driven may be an understatement. He is. That's what I noticed. He is driven. That fucking drives me insane. Well, you're driven then. Why?

To insanity. Why is it driving you insane? He's driven for greatness. Same reason it drives you insane. This guy probably doesn't even know him. He's just probably making some blanket statement like, oh, Kyler Murray's so fucking driven. Look at him doing squats.

No one else in the NFL does squats. Not 13 weeks after surgery. It's feel-good Friday. It was until you try to make a knot, and you can live in that world by yourself. I will continue to believe that Kyler has the potential to be great and great inside of him, and he will reach that level. If he doesn't, we'll all say, why did they pay him that amount of money if they felt like they had to put the claws in there that he doesn't work hard enough

off the field like everybody else has to at the position uh position that he's at to be great time will tell aj speaking of time it's time for us to enjoy this master's weekend pal any final thoughts to say to the beautiful people that are watching or listening from around the globe aj i don't i don't know i think with as far as the masters i'm gonna stay with john rom being my pick like i said Okay, he is currently at 8-under. I believe Koepka is at 12-under still at the lead. Rahm in the middle of his round. Koepka is hanging out in the clubhouse.

He's having a couple of hoi teas. Maybe a pimento cheese sandwich. Maybe he's enjoying a little bit of the wine that they allegedly have there. Whatever he needs to do to remain an absolute dog on the course through the weekend, he will try to do. John Rahm's a beast, as is Sam Bennett, as is Dana White and Calvin Johnson. All the boys, great week, boys.

Great work. Great work this week. Mitt, Dirty, Bill, Nick, Bruce, ZD Baby, Foxy Baby, Diggs, Ty, Connor, Phil AJ Pat I hope your platypus is better than one day

Pac-Man Jones Darius was on this week Rapaport was on Lombo was on Soli New friend of the program Anyways, thank you all so much. Okay?

We have so much fun. We are still in the middle of up to something season. Will there be news next week? Potentially. Will it be big? Probably. It is a wild time to be alive. We are grateful for everybody.

Let's enjoy the hell out of the weekend. Let's win some bets. Let's watch great golf. Let's enjoy this life. And on Monday, we'll be back to talk about it all. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice on this Feel Good Friday. We're going to Chef Bo's. Goodbye!