The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 884 - UINDY Baseball Legend Brady Ware, Mike Greenberg, Ted Karras LIVE From The ThunderDome, Gary Vee, Pacman Jones LIVE In The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: April 11, 2023

On today’s show, Pat, AJ Hawk, Pacman Jones, and the boys chat about OBJ to the Ravens and if this means that Lamar Jackson is definitely going to be playing Quarterback in Baltimore this year. Joining the progrum fresh off hitting for the cycle and throwing a no-hitter in the same game is overnight sensation, Brady Ware who pitches and DH’s for UINDY, to chat about his whirlwind of a weekend (12:39-29:45). Next, 2x Hall of Famer, host of Get Up!, Greeny., and NBA Countdown, Mike Greenberg joins the show to preview the NBA Playoffs, chat about the NFL Draft, discuss his book Got Your Number, his thoughts on Lamar Jackson and OBJ in Baltimore, and where he’s at with Aaron Rodgers and the Jets (1:01:46-1:52:12). Next, 2x Super Bowl Champion, Center for the Cincinnati Bengals, Ted Karras joins the progrum in studio to discuss his career so far, his football family, why he loves Cincy and Joe Burrow, the differences between Belichick and Zac Taylor, and more in an ELECTRIC conversation (1:52:14-2:14:39). Lastly, 5x NY Times Best Seller, entrepreneur extraordinaire, Gary Vee joins the show to chat about the Jets, his pickle ball team The 5’s, VeeCon, injuring his back playing pick-up basketball, and more (2:14:41-2:32:13). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people. It is playing Tuesday, April 11th, 2023. And this sports program, live from the Thunderdome, starts right now. Much mana! Much mana to all of you as well. Shout out Will Sasso and The Rock. Saw The Rock lifting at 2.30am on his Instagram. That dude is something that none of us are. Speaking of something that none of us are,

we have a guest live with us right now Instagram. That dude is something that none of us are. Speaking of something that none of us are, we have a guest live with us right now that we are going to talk to to basically kick off this entire show. Normally, we'd run through everything that's taking place. The NBA play-in starts tonight. Basketball matters all of a sudden. Here we go. Hey, now national television basketball games that matter are going to be taking place every single evening, pretty much, on TNT and ESPN. Can't wait to watch the NBA and have it be something that is worthy of having a conversation about every day, because in an 82-game season,

it is tough to take them serious. That's right. But now that the playoffs are starting, all the stars are here. All of them, right? Not Rudy Gobert. His team said, you can't play with us. Why? Because you pushed a guy. And that's never happened in sports before. So you got to get out of here. See ya.

Here's security, by the way, to escort you out of this fucking building. Even though we traded like 14 different things for you to come to our team and overpaid you grotesquely. Biggest game of the year. The most important game of the year. The game that we would pay you the money we're paying you to play in and play great. We're fucking actually suspending you. You are healthy enough to play. We don't want you to play. Because it seems like the rest of the team maybe doesn't paying you to play in and play great, we're fucking actually suspending you. You are healthy enough to play.

We don't want you to play because it seems like the rest of the team maybe doesn't want you to play. Wild scenes over there. Lakers have to win. That's LeBron James. LeBron James and Anthony Davis. Remember just a few weeks back, these guys were out of the playoffs. They make a couple big-time trades.

D'Lo comes in. He starts playing good basketball. LeBron James is back on his bullshit. And they're going to go on a run. Can't lose to this Timberwolves team that is currently burning from within. Of course not. The ratings came in for the Masters. Huge.

Huge. Fucking huge. 16 million people watched on Sunday or something like that. That's hilarious. And a world full of ratings going down. The Masters continue to go up just like the NFL. Congrats to Rom, Koepka for being actual draws.

Real draws. And to the Masters for, even though they had a weather delay and a couple trees go timber. Hell of a weekend, Masters. Congratulations to the Masters of Golf. There's a lot of other storylines kind of brewing and rumors all over the place. We saw Trey Lance's hairline for the

first time. The internet certainly reacted. But that is not what right now is about. Right now is about not only the toxic table at Boston Corner and that Ty Schmidt. Boys, how you doing? Fantastic. Hey, much wanted to you, boys. Much wanted to you as well. How are you feeling? Knee a little better today? Yeah, the papadiasis probably 65-70%. I was back playing

Thunderball this morning. I was limited to my movement, but that meant the ball strikes had to be a little bit better. I was pretty crisp with the paddle and the ball, I will say. One. Did not lose. Okay, you're back. Won by a lot. Yeah, they were good shots, though. This is maybe the

best shots I've had in a long time, and it's like, well, you lose one thing, mobility. You gain another one with these trick shots that were taking place. It was really a wild development this morning, but the Plotius is feeling much better. Much mana to you boys. One half of the hammer. Diamond Cowboys. Tone Diggs is here. Tone, you look great. Is that a bucko's

three-quarter zipper? It is a bucko's. I'm trying to bring the vibes back. The vibes were fucking high to start 2023. Swept the socks. Yeah, pretty good. Remember? Then the best player got hurt. Well, I don't know. One of the ilkers got hurt, and now the vibes are low, so I'm trying to bring him back up. Yeah, a guy broke his leg.

Back. A guy broke his leg. Best player. Only four months. He'll be back just in time for playoffs. Classic Pirates. That's what I'm talking about. When baseball matters.

That's right. They'll be in it. On stage yet again. Absolute stallion of a man. Came in in a minivan that's electric charge that is titled a Mustang. 14-year NFL corner, ladies and gentlemen, Pac-Man Jones. Pac-Man. Pac-Man. Pac decided to use an all-electric vehicle.

Shout out to you trying to take care of the Earth. Now, the batteries are made of might be worse. Those mines. I tried to do the same grandstanding thing, too. Like, oh, I care about the Earth more than you. But it turns out the battery is potentially worse than everything that could possibly come from a vehicle. But I do appreciate you trying to do your part in getting that minivan looking fucking mustang what was that what is that out there and what happened and why did you take an electric vehicle from one city to another even though it's you know this

is like uh that was an aggressive decision i think it was a aggressive decision i do say that but you know i've seen the hummer out there it It was electric. I said, hey, it's only, what, 90 miles from door to door. It said that I can get 285 miles. So I left the house this morning. No air conditioning. Yep. I left the house this morning with 180 miles on it. Before I can get to 75, the motherfucker was already down to 100 miles.

Uh-oh. Then my buddy Joe, he's a smart guy. I thought, anyway, you know, he knows about all the computers. I'm like, yo, Joe, let's find a place that we can charge this motherfucker up because it's getting low. And he went to a pump, a charger that didn't charge the car that we was in. We almost ran down, but he had to help me push a mile down the street, but we got here. Fucked up decision. I'm going back to gas. I'm going to leave the street but we got here um fucked up decision i'm going back to gas i'm gonna leave the electric to you okay okay so you're just giving up on your concept

hey way to way to persevere though yeah adversity showed up in the form of a number that's on a screen that was lying to you because that number is without the air conditioner uh or music you know you moving the seats think about how how, you know what I mean? Two, three percent. That's a lot of power. That was my first time, and it was getting low, and it said, turn the air off. I said, oh, shit, Joe, we might not make it. Then it said, turn the radio off.

I'm like, shit, no air, no radio. What is going on? Yeah, the electric vehicle, it's an interesting the ball racks right in the way of the camera oh we got look at how new this is look how clean this is nice much better when i had my bad papadias almost tripped over a ball going down the thing and i was like kind of a risky thing just have it all here we had this whole thing but the electric vehicle uh game i've been in a long time whenever tesla came out and i had was being grotesquely overpaid to do something kick a ball but hey the business

that it was paying me made a lot of money too so let's also think about that yeah and that thing came out it was supposed to be faster than like uh like an import pretty much it's supposed to be quicker than anything else and And it lasts forever. And you're saving the world. That's right. And I was like, oh, this is a hilarious thing for me to drive. I get to like the P80 thing or whatever. It was one of the greatest vehicles of all time.

I mean, it is so fast. I got car sick every time I was in the fucking Tesla, whatever it was. But the whole drive it to anywhere was quite a roll of the dice then. And they had said at that time, wait till next year. We're going to have gas pumps almost where you just show up on the roll of the dice then. And they had said at that time, wait till next year. We're going to have gas pumps almost where you just show up on the side of the road.

You pop in. They'll pop out your one battery, which don't look into where it comes from. No, no, no, no. Do not. Don't look into it. That one battery will go down. And then they'll shift out a charge one, and that'll pop right back in. And then you'll just kind of go on.

And then it'll be a five-minute stop. It'll be shorter than a gas station yeah he knows where's that yeah they're nowhere near being anywhere near complete you had no shot whenever you're talking about him searching he found a tesla charge station that doesn't work for the ford i'd assume right that can't be how it is and they're talking about moving to electric vehicles it's like it is impossible to get actual anywhere other than just around the house. So don't give up on electric vehicles. Okay, don't do that. But you can't be going like Oregon Trail with them. They got to tell us the true mileage on this shit, man.

Because the fucking car is halfway dead by the time you turn the radio halfway up. This is our future. Tough decision. This is our future. Dude, that Hummer, potentially. That Hummer, though. Come on. Pretty good, but that also sounds great when you go three miles a day.

Yeah, remember, when I was driving downtown to the office, to the house, I almost had to get rid of it. Leave it overnight a couple times. Yeah, because the charger couldn't charge it quick enough. Why didn't you tell me none of this? Dude, it works. I didn't think you were going to drive Cincinnati to Indianapolis. I was like, what are you doing?

No way, dude. But I do like that whenever they sold it to you, they told you that you could. Yeah. You know, because they told me the same thing. Every single time I'd done it, they never told the truth to me. You should have bought the solar panels with it, though. I'm going to be honest. That car stinks.

It does, dude. It's a Mustang, too. Mustangs are horsepower heathens. That's right. Okay? I got a Shelby that has 660-some horsepower. Showed up loud. That thing purrs when it comes in.

Now, I did try to drift around my front driveway and wrap it around a tree, but that's what's going to happen when you have a rear-wheel drive vehicle with 660 ponies and a large space. It's hard not to, oh, I'm a fucking drifter all of a sudden. And then a pothole shows up out of nowhere and you hit a tree and bang oh is it totaled close gonna have to fix it they got it fixed that is what a mustang supposed to be that minivan fucking thing you drove in here today can't have it so you're also empowering ford to continue to do that type of stuff i just want to

let you know i was disappointed in you very hey. We all were. We thought you weren't going to make it. I was disappointed in Ford. It's not even shaped like a Mustang. It's a minivan. It's a minivan. You're not supposed to be able to stand up in a Mustang. You're supposed to be able to get 287 miles out of this fucking car, and it was nowhere near it.

You were at 180, though. So even the 280, I mean, what were we thinking? You showed up in a Lambo SUV last week, and now you're shut up in this? Oh, jeez. Well, I thought it would be a better idea than the gas thing if it can make it there and back. It might be able to. Let's give it a go again. For sure.

Yeah, next week. Try it again. And the thing is, Pac-Man, too, if you remember from Hard Knocks, he also ran out of gas one time. Oh, yeah. I do remember that. It's kind of both situations. He's so mad you brought that up. What happened there?

What happened there? It was lying to you, too? It had that thing that said, how many miles left? And it said, you got 30. And then it goes to E. Yep. And everybody's like, well, I got an extra 15, 20, at least. Is that what happened?

Well, I was in the Damon. It's got a lot of horsepower. I just didn't have a chance to look down at the gas. Oh, you were too busy listening to it. But this time, I looked at this thing the whole time. 180, I started off with, and there's no way that from downtown to 74 is 70 miles. Yeah. I got on 74, I had 100 miles to go, bro. Okay, yeah.

How loud was the music? Now we have to get into what music was at. Well, Joe's negative ass was over there talking the whole time. Joe! We're not going to make it. That's not true. We know that's not true. I'm like, bro, why would you keep saying that?

Joe sold his tech company for $10 billion at age 28. Yes, that's what Joe is. We're wondering why he didn't talk last time he was here. He doesn't think we're fucking worthy, Paul. Yeah, he brought his computers. It's as think we're fucking worthy, Paul. Yeah. He brought his computers. It's as big as his desk. 32 and a half.

I heard him speaking Mandarin earlier, talking to the Chinese markets, you know, before they're even online over here. You should have heard what him and Bill were talking about just moments ago. They were talking about how they're coding the fucking internet together, these guys. Wild. H, capital E, lowercase C, B, C, Y. No, be careful. That guy will kill you. Colon.

He probably was draining that thing. Actually, he probably plugged into that car and drained it and said, you need to be taught a lesson today. You can't be driving electric vehicles that far. Nonetheless, Pac-Man, your car collection is fantastic, as are you. We're so thankful that you're here. That one won't be in the collection. Yeah, that one's getting probably sent back.

Getting sent back to the tech factory. That's right. Right? Right. Put it back in the system. Don't give up on electric vehicles, though. That's right. Right? Right. Put it back in the system. Don't give up on electric vehicles, though. That Hummer's awesome. Well, until we can get some shit that, you know, is a little bit more range.

Reliable. Reliable. No, they need to be able to figure out how you can get. You got to be able to charge the goddamn thing if you need to. Like, gas stations exist for a reason, you know? And I assume at one point there wasn't a lot of them. Right. And then people were like, whoa.

Need more of these. You know, we need. Yeah. These car things are sweet. Mr. Sheets. Would be much, exactly. Tom Sheets. It'd be much cooler if we could get somewhere.

And Tom Sheets, founder of Sheets, the superior gas station of Pennsylvania, said, we'll put these up along the roads that people drive on most. Smart. You know, like from city to city. And then people are like, oh, we'll put these in our towns. And then just kind of started growing from there. And then obviously the business side of it, that is very political.

But the electric ones need at least the start of it when we're on highways. They're nowhere to be found. Nope. It's tough to do, bro. Speaking of sheets, that cheese dog when we was in college. So good. Oh, my God.

That's great. They were so quick. Those are MTOs, dude, made to orders. Yeah. Anyways, today's show isn't about that. No. No. And we might have spent 15 minutes there chatting about other things,

but there's somebody sitting directly in the middle of our stage who has a fucking game today at 3 o'clock. Hell, yeah. And you might know his name because what he accomplished last friday is something that has never been accomplished before in ncaa i believe and i'll just keep rattling off records history history and tell me when i'm wrong this dude hit for the cycle and pitched a no hitter in the same goddamn game we're talking about shohei otani yeah we're talking about everything he's been able to accomplish and they go well who else has done what Shohei Ohtani. We're talking about everything he's been able to accomplish.

And they go, well, who else has done what Shohei Ohtani has done? They're like, well, Babe Ruth kind of did it. Sort of. Sort of. And now Shohei's doing it to a whole other level. Babe Ruth, obviously a legend for a lot of different reasons. But Shohei, that was literally the only precedent, it felt like, for this figure in L.A. that was on a terrible baseball team.

Obviously, we all assume this is the greatest baseball player of all time. The sport of baseball is talked about in two different ways. The best pitcher and the best hitter. That's right. Turns out this one guy fucking both of them. Yep. Well, this past Friday, University of Indy Grayhounds pitcher, Brady Ware, hit for the cycle.

That's every single type of hit you could have in baseball. Whoa. And pitched a no-hitter at the same damn time. Never been done before. Is this a young Andy Greyhound? Shohei Ohtani? Feels like it. Roaming around in D2.

Here's the highlights, and if you don't believe it, it makes sense. I thought it was a lie on the internet. Yeah, sure. It's a real deal. Where is it? He did the internet. Yeah, sure. It's a real deal. Where is a piece of that one? They're going to call it a home run. They're going to call it a home run. It's off of the Bengals' indoor facility.

It is. See you later. Sit down. I kind of, this guy. They're going to call it a home run. He gets a piece of that one. This is the tough one. Oh, shit.

No way he's going to get a triple. It's done. Good slide. Wow. Dog. We got a home run. We got a triple. Yep.

He's a piece of it. Over the head. On the third baseman. Is that a triple. Yep. He's a piece of it. Over the head. On the third baseman. Is that a gapper? Oppo double down the line. That guy said again that's going to be a single. This guy's a hater. This oppo double is a single away from hitting the cycle.

He's got good energy. He's kind of hating it. Where he gets a hit. Gets past the first baseman. And that's going to be the cycle for Brady Ware. You want him over. You want him over. You want him over. You want him over.

You want him over the commentator by the end of it. Ladies and gentlemen, and there's another strikeout, obviously, an absolute dog to win the game. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us, that man, Brady Ware. Yeah, Brady! Brady, how are you, pal? I'm doing great. How are you guys?

Man, fantastic. Thank you. We just had to turn up the mic, or you can move it towards you, whichever one you want. No, this mic. Just the actual microphone. Nailed it. Great.

Oh, great voice there. Brady, what a moment. We obviously synced it on, I believe, Omar pulled on SportsCenter. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I think so. Did he tag himself? I think it was video by Omar down at the bottom. He may have been there live.

He probably was. Omar is fucking everywhere. He's an absolute dog. It was on SportsC sports center i think it was on bleacher report it was literally everywhere because it was history being made right here in the middle of baseball season while shohei otani is being talked about what was your weekend like have you uh enjoyed it at all what what is it what type of guy are you and how did you kind of take it all in oh man this weekend was it was something different i mean i've never experienced anything like that. I mean, just last week, you know, just felt like a normal guy.

And then all this stuff happens. And now it's just, it's been a whirlwind. We live in Indianapolis, right? Oh, yeah. Live in the heart of the city. I didn't know there was a dog roaming around at Indy Grahan Stadium down there on the baseball team that is pitching and hitting prolifically. How long have you been at the University of Indianapolis? I've been, this is my first year here. So just since, you know, August. Where were you before here? I was at University of St. Catherine in San Diego, California. Okay.

Where are you from? From San Diego. Okay. First year in anywhere other than San Diego for an extended period of time? Yep. First time living outside my parents' house. Welcome to Indianapolis. Let's go. Welcome to Indianapolis. Great to have you out here. I mean, certainly, I think this is going to become a pipeline. San Diego athletes straight into Indianapolis for college. For sure. Happier here.

I see like it's, yeah, exactly. Phillip Rivers was the last one. Brady Ware is the second one. Are you enjoying the college baseball experience? We're Division II right now. So how many games in a year? We got, I think it's like 50 or 55 plus the postseason. 55 games. You're pitching and hitting in any other positions?

I play some first base, but mostly just hitting and pitching. How often do you pitch in those games? You got 50-some games. Well, usually I'll pitch like once a weekend, but this year's been a little different. I've been hurt a little bit. Oh, so it's a bounce back? Holy shit shit I'm back No hitter Yeah that was my first game back actually Wow What

No way Welcome to the show Congratulations to you dude Pack think about all that rehab During while he's working out While he's gonna wait till they see me when I get back I'm gonna be the best version of myself No hitter

Fucking hits for the cycle Pack What a guy How do you feel man Feels good now Healthy You feel good Feel good i was actually

supposed to be on like a 60 pitch count but uh obviously after i got the no hitter going they let me keep going so you're which where'd you get hurt at well actually my it was my oblique on the right side and you're a left-handed pitcher oh okay so that's cool so i was pulling yeah i pulled it okay when how long ago did you pull it? That was like two weeks ago. When did the season start? Season started, what, like middle of March, I think. And they beat the shit out of some teams in February.

So it makes sense that he's saying March because actually, yeah, they beat a team 32-7 in the opening weekend. So is UND a factory here in D2? Do we not know that? Is your team supposed to be, are we winning it all this year? I think we're going to win it all this year. Hell yeah. That's what I'm talking about.

Let's go. Go ahead, Ty. I just, I mean, at what point, because I watched the highlights too and outside of the PA guy kind of just being a horse's ass. He was a little bit of a hater. Do you know that guy? You were new there, I guess. So your first year, maybe you got to win him over did you hear that did

you hear the commentator i heard it after but yeah i've never met the guy so i don't know if he was hating on me or what was going well you want him over by the end he did but but at what point did uh i mean obviously you know like baseball culture like you kind of have an idea that the no hitters going but i also saw like you had you had guys on base like first and second multiple times like what point did it kind of set in was it harder focusing on the cycle aspect or the no hitter aspect i think uh the no hitter was definitely harder to focus on um i realized in like the fourth but i also didn't think i was going to be able to go much past the fourth with the pitch count but you

know they kept sending me back out kept asking me how i feel and i was just like all right let's just roll with it. Hell yeah. I've seen the thing where you was 15 minutes late. I have a pregame ritual. It seems like I don't know if you did this on purpose, but since you was 15 minutes late, do you think you should be a couple minutes late? Change the routine.

Should you change the routine? Every game. Well, I'm currently late right now. Oh, no. Maybe I'll have a good game today. Okay, for today's game? Yeah. So is your coach hate that you're here or happy that you're here?

Oh, he's happy. He's got to be. Shout out to your coach. Good coach? You feel like you got better since getting to UND? Or does your game continue to grow? Or are you already a made player? I honestly don't understand baseball world much because people get drafted like 17.

Oh, yeah, out of high school. And then they end up in like single A, double A. opt to get even get drafted they go to college then they think about going over and then they're maybe in double a or triple a it's like i don't understand the baseball development world at all but like are you continuing to get better right now goal dream still to be in the majors is that everything go to a bigger school like what is the is there a mindset or do you just take it literally like game by game almost? I mean, obviously everyone's trying to get better. But, I mean, I want to play next level, you know,

play some either independent ball or maybe get drafted. Frontier League. Something like that. Here we go. Yeah, keep going. Pioneer League. I played in the Frontier League. Yeah, you did.

That's what I heard. No big deal. You know, I played in there. First time ever stepping into a batter's box. You played baseball your whole life? Only sport? Yeah, that's the only sport. Loved it.

Loved it. Everything about it. Yeah, my dad got me into it when I was probably like two years old. When you're pitching, are you thinking or trying not to think at all? Well, I think I've got to change my mindset now because this weekend it just felt kind of blank out there. Yeah. Okay. So as somebody that does something that is just like a routine thing, yeah, man, I'm trying not to think at all.

Everybody that I know that's a kicker are trying not to think at all. Is that something that you do have like a full pre-pitch routine, like mental cues you give yourself, or are you just out there playing in the moment? Just kind of playing in the moment. Who's calling pitches? My pitching coach was actually calling the pitches. Dog. You shake him off?

What do we throw? Yeah, is there any of that? I shook him off a couple times, but he did a pretty good job calling the pitches. What are we throwing? Fastball? Fastball, mostly change-ups, a couple curveballs in there. Four bucks, 3-2. What's your go-to pitch?

3-2, probably change-up. Okay. But you had to set that up, right, in the first. He's not pitching today. Yeah. Thank God. You don't want to give away any advantage in there. That's right.

But you already had to set that up, I assume, right? Isn't pitching like choosing what to pitch, how to pitch it, when to pitch it and everything like that? Yeah, it kind of depends just, you know, how they at bat went. What about a knuckleball? We get a knuckleball in there? I wish. We actually got a teammate that throws pretty dang good knuckleball.

Wow, a little Wakefield. Yeah, Wakefield's boy. Didn't they have that reality show? Remember, they were trying to find the next great knuckleballer. This is a real deal. Really? They had other professional athletes. I think Wakefield was the reason.

Before or after Million Dollar Arm? So it was before Million Dollar Arm. After Wakefield had his success. Yeah. Because I was watching. I think it was other celebrities or athletes, like retired athletes. Trying to do it.

They were trying to teach them how to pitch the knuckleball. And there was only like one or two of them that could do it, and then they got an actual tryout, I think, and none of them made it. Because, you know. So hard. Didn't have the consistency to do it. It's not an easy pitch to throw. Is that what we're talking about?

I mean, the thing with the knuckleball is the person throwing it doesn't even know where it's going. So it just kind of goes wherever it wants to go. How about when you're hitting? You're a lefty hitter or both sides? Lefty. So you want to hit against a righty pitcher or a lefty pitcher? I'd rather hit against a righty.

What do you think about that new rule? You can't slide over no more. You should probably like that rule. The shift rule? Yeah. I like it. It's not in the college level yet, but it's in the bigs. Are they shitting against you?

Not really, surprisingly. Well, when you're fucking going up double, yeah. How can they shift against you? I guess that's true. We was talking and I was saying, it can't be that fucking hard to hit the ball left if everybody is over here.

As a left-handed hitter, can you explain to us how hard it is to not pull the ball? For more context, Brady, whenever they change the rule that teams are no longer allowed to shift over, those of us who are not baseball people, they showed us an aerial shot of what the defense looked like

and everybody was over here. And we, as a sport, go where they're not, is like, hey, just fucking hit. There it was. That was the actual photo. Go left. So I'm not a big baseball guy. Just, okay, pal.

Just all you got to fucking do is just put it. Not easy to do that, I guess. And is that something you, I guess you do have the ability to do because you went oppo for the double, I believe. Is that just some people have it, some people don't? I mean, pulling the ball is just a natural thing to do. So especially these big lefty power hitters. A lot of them don't work on hitting the ball the other way.

So it's kind of just something you've got to learn to do. You're a better hitter or pitcher, you'd say? What was that? Better hitter or pitcher? Definitely a better hitter. Let's go, dude. Yeah. Baseball coaches are still the same?

We still fucking dipping in fucking seeds or what? You guys probably can't, Sean, can you? Probably not allowed to. You're not allowed to? If they see a can in the dugout, they'll just suspend it. Are you allowed to zin? No zinning? Nothing. Oh, really? So it's the nicotine that is the problem, not the tobacco. We've learned that now.

That is what that rule is. You're a fifth-year senior, though. You're not grandfathered in. You could just be like, hey, I was chawing at St. Catherine. I've got to be able to chaw here. I don't think. Look how handsome this guy is. Yeah.

California, too. He's a handsome fella right there. How's the team? We got a good team. You're new there. You got hurt for a couple weeks. Was it hard to adjust to a brand-new team? Or how is kind of the camaraderie behind the scenes?

I think the team's great. We should be pretty good this year. I think the bigger adjustment was adjusting just the weather and everything out here, being cold. Body sore? Yeah. Get sore more? What was that?

Get a little sore more because it's colder? Yeah, it's harder to get warmed up. But when you do, you're fucking hitting everybody. Yep. Going everywhere. Who are we playing today? Ohio Dominican. Oh, let's beat the shit out of them.

They suck. This team doesn't even know what baseball is, right? Are they a good team? Do we do film study on every team? How much prep is there for every single team in college baseball? For weekend games, we do a little bit more. I have no idea how this team is. You don't even know who's pitching to you right now?

I have no idea. Okay, sick. All right, so what is something that's like that'd be good for a college baseball D2 game? How many times do you go to bat tonight? Probably like four or five. Four or five times? Yeah. Okay, so two hits, right?

One hit? Two hits would be real good. Two hits? Two, four, two, five would be, I mean, one for four is fine. You know, you get a couple of ribbies maybe. All right, so two hits. Yeah, you want one? What do we got to do?

Three hits. Three hits? No way. Are you kidding me? These dudes can't hit a ball. His first ballot. I looked up, he's got a great batting average, 315. No, he can hit the ball.

Oh, great. 315 is really good. So that's three out of five would be 60%. Three out of five. He can do it. Yeah, but he's – that's baseball? He can do it. Law of averages said, I mean, you just went –

how many at-bats did you get in the cycle game? Four. Okay, so you go four for four. Law of averages said. And this pitcher is going to be pumped to pitch against you. For sure. You've been on SportsCenter. You've been everywhere.

You're about to get the best shit here. It might be a home run the first pitch. Whoa, okay, you hit a home run, winner automatically. You go. What about on-base percentage of five? Three? They might pitch around him a little bit as well. Yeah.

Intentional walk. They got first base open. We don't want to make him reach out of the zones. You either go two for whatever or hit a triple or better. Double or better. Double. Double or better. Extra base hit.

Yeah. Okay. So, all right. So, you got to hit a double or better, a home run, or go 2-4. Okay. There it is. Okay? Yeah.

All right. You got one for the Michael again. Boom. Okay. Now there's the thing. That was the line. So if you do that, if you do what we laid out there, the double or better, home run, or 2-4, or whatever if it's singles. You'll get

$5,000. $10,000. You do the cycle again. That would be $50,000. You do that. That's out of your control too.

That's out of your control. You saw the one he had on the triple, two guys in the gap. One of them dives. You have to be lucky for this as well. So if you do that again, all right, yeah, man, we'll give you $100,000. Give you $100,000. We'll give you $10,000 if you do the double or better home run or 2-4. And then we'll also give 10 people $500 if he does

the lesser. If he hits for a cycle. There are 10 winners today. I'm sorry. I think there should be. I think there should be 25 winners. $500 if he hits for the cycle. Yeah. So $25,

$500 winner, $500 winners if he hits for the cycle, all you're going to have to do is just quote tweet this video right here and say something nice to Brady fucking Ware. Just a nice thank you and put the most efficient way to pay you. And then if you do that other one, we'll give 10 people $500. Nonetheless, we can't thank you enough for joining us. You're missing batting practice, so that helps us out.

You're not going to have to give money, but the people obviously are excited to watch you. And even if you go 0 for your next 100, you've already done something that nobody's ever done before. You should be incredibly proud here in Indiana, pal. Thank you, guys. It's been awesome to be on the show. So do you have another year still, if you want it? I don't. This is it.

Really? I thought COVID, you just got like a bonus year. I already got the bonus year, so this is my fifth? I thought COVID, you just got like a bonus year. I already got the bonus year. So this is my fifth year of playing. What if you got like a master's or something? That's what I'm doing right now, actually. Getting my master's. In what? Teaching.

Oh, really? You're going to be a teacher? That's the hope. Holy hell. What, mathematics? Math or business. Okay. Hell yeah.

Let's go. Creating business, people. What a star. Brady Ware, good luck with everything, dude. dude you're gonna have success no matter what you do i think you're incredibly cool looking and the composure to have no matter what level you're on knowing that history is on your shoulders and on the next swing to be able to pull through in that moment legendary pal ladies and gentlemen brady where welcome back to the program here on this glorious Ladies and gentlemen, Brady Ware. Thank you, buddy. Welcome back to the program here on this glorious NBA play in Tuesday.

Let's go. April 11th, 2023. We can't thank you enough for joining us here on this glorious day. The weather's amazing here in Indiana. Nice out. Hey, it's happened. I mean, you were pushing a car about a mile in it. I mean, imagine if it was that weather like a week or two ago.

I hope everybody's enjoying the hell out of, I think, spring being sprung. Now, here in Indiana, I believe there's some storms coming this weekend. Normally, storms mean a different front is coming into town and trying to beat the fuck out of the last front that was in town. Current front that's in town, warm. Will that storm bring cold air? We shall see. I hope not. It is amazing. Life is better when the sun is out. Life is better when things are happening in the league that we talk about most. Speaking of things happening, the brand new Lions have made a trade with the Atlanta Falcons. The Atlanta Falcons have traded a fifth round pick that they

got from Jacksonville in the Calvin Ridley trade, if you do recall. Calvin Ridley, great wide receiver, now a member of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Only going to make them better. The pick that Atlanta got in return, they are sending to Detroit for Jeff Okuda, if you do remember. Third overall pick out of Ohio State. He had that drill that they did at Combine where his hips appeared to be like a double-jointed almost. He was sprinting backwards on a straight line, flipping his hips. He went to Detroit. Obviously, fifth year option

remaining to be decided upon. They have until May 1st. Quick math. 19 days or so? So they've got to see what he's like in these OTAs, if they like him as a person or if they're already just committing to paying him $11.5 million for the fifth-year option that comes.

Jeff Okuda, how is he as a player? There's other reports coming out that both sides feel like this is a win-win, including Okuda, who's got a brand-new start maybe because it didn't work in Detroit. Is that what happened back there for Okuda and the Detroit Lions? Yeah, I think this is a great fit for him in Atlanta, though. A.J. Terrell is another really good dog that's down there. But it also says that they're not sure about the group that they have in Atlanta.

So I'm eager to see. But this kid here can play football. He got really good hips. He can work on his ball skills a little bit. That would be the only knock that I have on him. He don't track the ball really that good, but he plays really good. What does that mean? Track the ball. Like, I'm playing plays really good. What does that mean?

Track the ball. Like, I'm playing man-to-man, and you throw a deep ball, and I'm right there on the play, and I miss the fucking ball. Got it. You get what I'm saying? There's a lot of guys that play really good until the ball is in the air. That's called tracking the ball. I do it really good because I played punt return also. But it's some guys that can get out there that can

fucking be in the perfect position and when the ball is thrown and they get clumsy you get what I'm saying yeah because that you would seem though you would think that would be fixable because at least they're in the spot yeah like there's people that aren't in a spot okay they got cooked probably not going to be able to do it but if you're in a spot and you're just missing the ball you would seem you can work on that is that something you can get better at well yeah I think you can get better at it or you just play the hands you know um some people can't go up and catch the ball. You would see him. You could work on that. Is that something you can get better at? Yeah, I think you can get better at it or you just play the hands. Some people can't go up and catch the ball as far as interception. So you have

to be making sure you're good in your technique. Swipe through the arms and get the ball down. He's a good player. I'm not taking nothing from him. Different styles of play though. Yeah, different styles of play. He played really good at the line too. They added Cam Sutton from the Steelers. They added Emmanuel Mosley from the Niners.

They were mocked to probably take one of the top corners at six. It's not super surprising. Artie Smith, huh? Saying, hey, we need to kind of gear up on the back end. Well, and they added Jesse Bates, too. So if there's anything that can help a corner more, you've got an unbelievable safety. Not a lot of great – I don't want to take shots at anybody.

Is that – Not a lot of great quarterbacks down there want to take shots at anybody. That's it. Not a lot of great quarterbacks down there in the South. No, not at all. In the NFC South, if you have a great defense, you can – what's that? I think you can safely say that. Yeah, but I don't want anybody to take any offense. You know, Derek Carr might be a reborn guy down in the bottom. Good, he might. What?

What? I've been watching your honor, you know, down there. Yeah, uh-huh. Hey, New Orleans is a wild place. Derek Carr is our quarterback now. Good luck down there. Hope he does well, but the NFC South is certainly a massive question mark. If you have a stout defense, which it sounds like

they are, this is what we're, we need to make our defense great. Not a bad decision against the weak offenses that seem like to be all around them. I mean, that division was up for grabs pretty much basically the whole season. And the Falcons came out. The Falcons were on fucking. The Falcons was winning the division. AQ was loving the falcons pretty much every week early because the run game was awesome exactly and they had that rough in the past for that kind of against the bucks yeah

bullshit change the rule yes potentially gonna change the rule and that is kind of arty smith's offense is just you know smash mouth so it makes sense like we kept saying like hey go get lamar you guys need to get a quarterback but it looks like like they're going all in kind of defensively, and they're going to hope to win games at like 17-9. Just real quick, though. Lamar on that offense. Oh, yeah. We are still very –

Unbelievable. They allegedly completely outnamed another person's starter, have said they're not in. Yeah, Ritter. But we can still think about what Lamar would look like in that offense. For those that don't know, if you haven't paid attention, Artie Smith's offense down in Atlanta, we only know this because in the

trenches with A.Q. Shipley, he was trying to have them on basically every single week alongside the Eagles and the Niners. That's the type of run game that they have in Atlanta. Very creative. They set up leverage, can make holes. If you have playmakers, the offense can be efficient. I think that's probably how they're viewing it down there. We just need

to know that on defense side, we can get stops when we need it. They're trying to build a winner down there quick. Artie Smith, we have to remember this. He could be a bazillionaire just laying down fat in a yacht. Yeah, lazy. Okay? He could be.

He has chosen to sleep on couches, fix printers at 5 a.m. in the morning, draw up cards because of his love and obsession with football or whatever. Feels like if he ever wanted to just back out of, he had more than enough chances to do that. Oh, yeah. Of course. He's going to win, I think. I think Artie's a guy that's going to win.

I think he's going to figure out how to win, I believe. And with that NFC South being so weak right now, no better time than now, which makes no sense why they're out on Lamar so hard. I don't understand why that's the case. Yeah, they need a quarterback. They do, but maybe Desmond's a guy. But still, I don't know why they're just – Heineke's there? Yeah, Heineke is there, but it's one of those things where you kind of have

all the pieces together, and then week eight, you're just getting terrible quarterback play when you know you could have potentially went out and gotten Lamar. It's just like, well, fuck, what do we do now? We named this guy a starter. He's young. We paid Heineke. So it just like, well, fuck, what do we do now? We named this guy a starter. He's young. We paid Heineke. So it's like, are these the only two options we have?

At this point, yeah, they are. Well, and then if Carolina goes and they do hit on whoever is the number one overall pick and there is just this new young stud in that division, like that changes the whole future for Atlanta really just because, okay, Ritter didn't work. So maybe they are still competitive to Ty's point, like 17-9 games. They're going to win ball games. They're not going to be at one of those top spots and have a top-ten pick like they do this year.

Ritter might be a guy. Yeah, definitely could be. But I think the things that they did on defense showing that they're going to be top of this division. They went and got Jesse Bates that they spent a whole lot of money on. They just went and got this kid here. They got A.J. Terrell. And then the front end, they got some dogs.

They got Klyce Campbell. Tampa Bay? Okay. Carolina? Okay. Saints? Who the hell know what this guy is going to do? We don't even know what the Saints are going to be.

Derek Carr? Yeah, that guy right there. Oh, Derek. Derek is an okay player. We know what happens. How much to be. Derek Carr? Yeah, that guy right there. Oh, Derek. Derek's an okay player. We know what happened. How much did he get? How much did he get? $100 million, $60 million guaranteed.

$60 guaranteed. Think about that. Yes. Everybody's talking about. In comparison to Jimmy G, too. In comparison to Lamar. Yes. Just the conversations that are happening about Lamar.

Derek could go in, though. Yeah. Michael Thomas plays, too, again. Kamara. Taysom Hill's still in there. Olave. They got a defense. Saints have a good defense, right? Yeah. Honey Badger. Cam.

Lattimore. They got dogs in them. Mario Davis. Saints have a good defense. Yeah, right, bro. The Saints' fucking corners suck. They gave up more yards than any NFL team this year. I don't know what y'all talking about, man.

Have y'all seen the Saints? Have y'all forgot? Have y'all forgot? Yeah, maybe. I'm just thinking of Cam. Cam is on TV. He's awesome. He's at the Pro Bowl giving great interviews.

Demario Davis, he's a fucking dog. Daniel Pro Bowler. Absolute stud. And then I remember, maybe it was the year before last. Maybe. What? Where we were watching them, maybe the year before that is what you're saying? Yeah, could have been.

We were watching them. We're like, hey, the Saints got defense that could win a title. Yeah. You know, because in the playoffs late in the season, I know it's always a lot of the conversation is like, hey, this offense is humming. This offense is doing their thing. And there was a couple offenses that we saw get hot at the right time.

Chiefs being one of them. Same with the fucking Niners when Brock Purdy got in there. It's like, hey, this offense has gotten hot. Going to have to have a hot offense to win a Super Bowl. But what's kind of lost in the conversation is like, hey, that defense could win a Super Bowl. Like that defense looks like a defense that could win a Super Bowl. Tampa Bay Buccaneers defense, whenever they went on that run,

that defense got real good late. And when it got real good late, not only did obviously Lombardi, Lenny, playoff Lenny do well and the run game do well, their defense got hot. Rams defense got hot. It's like at one point we thought the Saints had a defense that could go win a Super Bowl. I remember us having that conversation.

So that's what I'm referring to. Now, if it was last year, you said they gave them more yards than anybody in the nfl they was allowing like 330 last year a game what's that all about they weren't what do you think that's all what's that all about we didn't talk shit about the saints last year it was almost same with the saints last year oh they're saying bad football team that's what i'm saying on defense side i got their car though that's why we didn't really talk about it because they were in it for the entire year because of how terrible the division was. The Bucs went 8-9 and went to the playoffs. It wasn't like there was one clear-cut winner.

I think it was week 14, maybe, and there were a few teams and they were all below 500 and they all had, I don't know, pretty terrible records, but they were all still in it because of the fact that if a few things went wrong in those closing divisional games, they could have still went to the playoffs. We'd like to let the NFC South fans know that, hey, I understand

the AFC South is weak, too. Let's not get crazy. I lived in it. We understand that very much. But facts are the facts. That South division looked terrible. And I don't think anybody was taking a big leap. I guess the Carolina Panthers with the entire coaching staff that they hired, that's kind of got us. I think the Saints quarterback situation got a lot better this year.

I agree. Andy Dalton's a great guy. That's kind of got to be. I think the Saints quarterback situation got a lot better this year. I agree. Time for. Andy Dalton's a great guy. Okay. He stunk a quarterback last year. They were not a good team. They weren't. I don't remember.

But I thought their defense was good. Kamara was in and out. Like they were banged up on the O-line. Michael Thomas did not play. Their first round pick I think got hurt. Yeah. He was out until the first 11 weeks. Yeah.

They had a lot of injuries on the O-line. A lot of injuries in the back. I don't know. Lattimore, was he healthy all year? There was a lot of injuries. When they tried CJGJ. Before the season started. Right before the season started.

He's on the lines now. And they added a dude from the Jets, Marcus May, I think. Yes. He was their best player on defense for the Jets two years ago. Foxy, how do you feel about the Lions sending Okuda out of town? He was a miss. They said it didn't work out. Number three overall, we're willing to admit didn't work out.

Let's move on. He had a tough go. If you guys remember, the Lions, Matt Patricia, Bob Quinn, they trade Darius Slay and then draft this dude thinking he's just going to fill big play Slay's spot. Yeah, that didn't happen. His rookie year, he had a hamstring. So as a corner, you're fucked immediately.

And then he tears his achilles fans really really really wanted him to be good he just wasn't and everyone liked him it just didn't work out i think it's going to be better for him at the end he got thrown into the fire immediately too i think they played the packers davante adams right away yeah davante adams just absolutely rogers picking on him big time big time welcome to football yes that's a tough tag team you have to stare down your first game. Matt Patricia, we do know as a defensive genius, not that great of a head coach or offensive coordinator.

He wasn't even a defensive genius in Detroit, I would say, either, but that's just me. That's just me. Well, he had that one play call. He did. He did. Against the Seahawks. I've seen it.

He also has a legendary Radio Row visit. One of the best ever. Of all time. He was awesome. I don't know how he got in there. Me neither. It's unbelievable. He's just so recognizable, I guess.

But normally that does not matter in those places that are locked down. He forgot his ID. He forgot his ID. His ID, his wallet. He didn't have his IDs. He was sweating so bad. Gave us a great interview. He did.

Great interview. He was right in the middle of watching film, came over, did the whole thing in a frantic, went back to watching film. Especially that day. As long as you didn't get as long as you didn't fucking sucker punch Ty on the side of the head, it was going to be a great interview. Drew Brees allegedly did that to Ty

on his way out of the radio interview. We were on the tiny little desk. Nonetheless, I fucking hope the Saints get better, honestly. For the good of New Orleans. And also, congrats to the Falcons and to the Lions making a deal that seems like all parties are happy. I forgot that he was drafted from the previous regime.

That is an even added wrinkle. Get him out. Did we do this? No. Didn't think so. Has he played well? He has potential. Alright, fifth round. See ya. That's the same GM. He's probably not trading him. He's holding on to him.

He's saying, hey, I still see what I saw in you whenever I took you number three overall. So that adds into it. Everybody's happy. Good luck to all parties. Last year was his best year, by the way. So he did have a good season last year. He kind of smirked there.

That's the answer. A little bit of a smirk from Okuda. What do you think that means, Pac? He's happy. But doesn't want to be too visible? Doesn't want to rub it in the faces of Detroit Lions fans? Is that what it is, you think? A little bit of a smirk.

The option to get picked up, you know how it go. Y'all didn't pick up that option? Yeah. Okay. So he's going to be a free agent? That's personal. Like, you trade me or put me in however it goes, and then obviously you wasn't willing to pick up the option.

Yeah. Previous GM drafted him. He had to know. I mean, this is just – that's the way football goes. That's the way any business goes whenever a new person in power normally takes over. They kind of have their vision of things, and you were the vision of the past that didn't work,

which is why the new vision's there. Okuda will hopefully have a great season and a great career down in Atlanta, and I assume they'll pick up his fifth-year option in the next week or so, maybe on a restructured contract for whatever they need to prove. Whatever the case. They're investing on the defense side of the ball. There is a photo now

of Patrick Mahomes, Trey Lance, and UCLA quarterback Dante Moore training. Nobody really talked about the fact that Patrick Mahomes and Trey Lance are training. And that has to be good news for Trey Lance. And we saw some videos come out from a workout where they were both just throwing absolute seeds.

Only thing being talked about here to exceed all expectations, Jim, is that that fro is fantastic in the middle. Yep. Great. Patrick Mahomes looks really cool tucked in shirt into workout shorts. Absolutely. And Trey Lance appears to be in great shape, and that's the first time we've all seen his hairline.

Yeah. That's what the internet said. That's not what I said. I'm just telling you that's what the internet said. And then I have to, like, re-go back through my head. I'm like, always see him in hats. Always. Always see him in hats.

Looks great in ball caps. He's got to do what he's got to do, but I want to let everybody on the internet know it was rude the way you guys all reacted to this photo at the same time. The entire internet, okay? People that feel this way about things on the internet, people that feel this way about things on the internet

all came together and had the same reaction. That's the first time we've seen his whole fucking face and head before. And I would like to let everybody know that was rude. And Trey Lance, you look like you're fucking getting after it and everybody that's a fan of yours is pumped about it. And I think that needs to be reiterated a little bit there, Connor.

Yeah, it really is kind of hard to think back when there's been a guy who's been a top three pick who's been down worse than Trey Lance right now. Because could you imagine finally getting – Kuda just got traded for a fifth-round pick. Yeah, but at least the entire internet isn't cooking him. I mean, could you imagine finally – true. but finally you get some clips out, some highlights. You're working with Pat Mahomes, and the only thing that can be talked about is Jesus Christ, this guy should shave his head right now.

Oh, my God, Connor. I didn't say that. I'm saying that's what the people on the internet are. I mean, how old is he, like 21? Yeah, he's young. Oh, he needs to shave it. Yeah. Yeah, he should.

No, no, he needs to get the Urlacher. That's right. They have ways to fix this now. I don't know if anyone can fix that. Oh, yeah, De to shave it. Yeah. No, no, he needs to get the Urlacher. That's right. They have ways to fix this now. I don't know if anyone can fix that. Oh, yeah, Deion got it. Yeah, they have ways to fix this. They do. They have ways to fix it, Trey.

Do whatever you got to do or just keep rocking it. Yeah. You know, like Von Miller just has what? That triangle? That signifies infinite. That's the Dallas thing, though. You know, they wear it back there in the back. What's that?

That's the Dallas thing? What Von got. Like a hairstyle. Everybody in Dallas wears it? You know, they wear it back there in the back. What's that? That's a Dallas thing? What Vaughn got. Like a hairstyle. Everybody in Dallas wears it? You know who I think started that? Who? I believe it was a Ronaldo, Brazil. He did have.

He had like just the circle on the back of his head for the World Cup, I think. Or maybe just the front he had. Hell no. He just had a patch. I thought it was on the front. No, Pat. Hell no. Yeah, yeah.

Wait till you see this guy. I don't remember which Ronaldo it was on the front. No, Pat. Hell no. Yeah, yeah. Wait till you see this guy. I don't remember which Ronaldo it was. It was, there was a few Ronaldos. It was a little messed up. Pat, in Texas, they wear like, it'd be thick back there too. Like, they wear their whole head shaved and grow out like a little afro patch back here in the back. Yeah, that's the shag right there.

Is it awesome? Is that what it's called? The shag. Yeah. The shag? Yeah. Trey Lane should do that on the front of his head. Trey, what are we doing? Yeah, there it was. That was the called? The shag. Yeah. The shag? Yeah. Trey Lane should do that on the front of his head. Trey, what are we doing?

Yeah, there it was. That was the opposite of the shag. I guess that would be the... That's awesome. You remember when James Conner had the haircut that I had to get? Oh, yeah. That was a shag, too. Yeah, it was like a mullet, though.

It was almost like a fade to a mullet. It wasn't bald, though. It was kind of like faded still up here a little bit, right? Yeah, but he credited it as like a Dallas Shag thing. Okay, so Ronaldo, you think, just said, give me the opposite of the Dallas Shag? Yeah, and that's what Trey Lange should do. That's a Brazilian Shag.

The Dallas Shag goes in the back door, the back of the head there. The Brazilian Shag right there on the forehead. That's right. Okay, makes sense. There's someone else with a Dallas Shag right now. Oh, yeah, Gumpy. He does. Yeah, Kyle Kaskor. That's right. with a Dallas Shag right now. Oh, yeah, Gumpy. He does. Yeah, Kyle Kaskor.

That's right. Old Kyle Gumpy. Looks good, too. He does. He does look unbelievable. Your hair is awesome. Your hair. How long have you been growing it?

If my hair did that, I would cut my hair. To the Dallas Shag? Yeah, something. So, like, Hulk Hogan had that, too, now that we're starting to get into it. My brother. Hulk Hogan had the skullet where. His topknot. It was bald on the top.

And then down around the sides, obviously, Jefferson. Boom, like this. Like Bret Michaels. And then he grew it out and grew a full mullet out that. But Hogan always had his thing going. Yeah, that's because that was all bald up there. Oh, yeah, brother. Boom.

Boom. Bam. A little bit of a skullet there. And that was not fake hair. Is that what you were going to say? Do not say. That was disgusting.

Come on. That was disgusting. That shit ain't real. That is real. That right there is real. Ty, tell him that's real. Don't you dare come at my hair, brother.

It was painful. I'm going to take you down if you think, Pac-Man, that this isn't real. How much? I got news for you, brother. That's right. I'm happy he got to say that.

Because that needed to be said to you, Pac. He paid for it. Blood, sweat, and tears. Congratulations to everybody on all the haircuts that are out there. Live your best life, Trent. Need to get one. Funny side story. Pac saw that was on the sheet, and he was like, oh, I'll call.

What's his name in the middle? Who? Dante? Dante is a dog. Absolutely dog. He can throw it anywhere, man. Where's he from? He's from Detroit.

He was Detroit player of the year. I had a chance to coach him on Cam 7 on 17. He was absolutely the truth. I don't even think during the whole season he might have had five incomplete balls. Damn. How many games in a season? Probably 25 games. Jeez.

Seven on seven, no problem. He's one of the best I've ever seen throw the ball. Jeez. Seven on seven, no problem. He's one of the best I've ever seen throw the ball. Like, flat out throw the ball, he's the best I've ever seen as far as a high school kid. He's a freshman right now? Yeah, he's going to be a freshman.

Is he going to start, I assume, there? Of course he's going to start. Because they just had who? DTR. DTR, yeah. He was at the combine throw and looked pretty good. So they go straight from DTR to in. Chip will start a freshman that could be electrifying, get into his offense. Do you think he's going to do damage over there?

Yeah, I'm quite sure Dante Moore had every school in the country. He's not going nowhere. Oh, UCLA goes to NIL. Yeah. They paying to play. They see all the LA kids going everywhere else, and UCLA's like, wait a minute. We got this guy. Let's go in.

Beautiful campus. Beautiful campus. Changing conferences while he's a minute. We got this guy. Beautiful campus. Changing conferences while he's going to be there. Great weather. There's going to be long flights for those games, but it's still going to be primetime TV basically every single week. Good for him. Shout out to him. You were coaching in that? You're coaching. Now you're coaching too, right?

Well, I'm not coaching right now. Oh, you're seeing Junie team. Yeah, I'm coaching the Little League Junie team four and five years this-olds this year. Yes. That is awesome. How are you going to have them? Are they going to have wristband or anything like that?

Oh, yeah. We'll be no huddle. Like, these kids are smart these days. I had a chance this Sunday to go out, you know what I mean, just work with them for a little bit. And I wanted to see how quick they can pick it up. And I can tell you this. We ran no huddle, literally, off a play of a card, like on an iPad.

Hey, look, three over here, three over here. You're going to do this. You're going to do this. We're going to do this two times. The next time you're going to hand them the ball, and then you're going to run. These kids picking up fast. So I'm eager to see how good we be at five-year-old this year.

Hell, yeah. Peyton was coaching. I don't know if it was his son or I think it was his son. It was like seven year olds. They had 20 plays. He was coaching. He had 20 plays. I got a picture sent to me from his dad that said

look at this asshole. He didn't say that but he was like look at Peyton coaching his team. Had a flip on the thing. He was actually had a he was calling plays. It was like these kids are going to take the game to a next level. I think he was actually had a he was calling plays it was like these kids are going to take the game to a next level i think he's now as a man who needs no luck because he's won it all hasn't he yes he's won a college football national championship yeah he's won a super bowl championship but he's won a rider cup chop well oh wait oh fuck he didn't huh no

he didn't that's on us we've been mispronouncing his name for so long. He won at the Ryder Cup. Yeah. The all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers. COVID survivor, father of 10, A.J. Hawk. Yay! A.J., sorry the rest of the team couldn't show up for you there for that Ryder Cup championship.

You got the win. Everybody else couldn't. That's a shame. And, obviously, I'd be upset if I were you because usa usa usa usa uh how are you doing aj did you get a chance to see this brady wearer character the guy was super humble and he's got a game today at three o'clock was missing batting practice got a lot on the line could potentially earn himself a hundred thousand dollars is that hell yeah so i was i was on uh if he hits for a cycle again, he gets 100K personally. Yes.

And I owe a deal. What are the odds? Do you think there's a good chance that he does that again? Well, remember, it started at like 15,000 and 25,000. Then as I was calculating the odds in my head, I'm like, well, 100,000, I could have kept going. The amount of luck that has to happen to get a triple, I think, in baseball is very fascinating. This wouldn't be a nine-inning game, I guess.

Right. Which is a little bit longer, so he'll get another at bat, hopefully. But if he goes back-to-back cycles, that'd be quite a day. And maybe the next time Brady comes in, he does have a little drag alongside of him as he walks through the Thunderball court. He did say that that was his first triple of the season. So chances, I would say the chances of him hitting a cycle again are probably like one in a hundred trillion. But hey, cra probably like $1 and $100 trillion.

First game back, though. Crazier things have happened. $100 trillion. This would be his second game back. Now I'm worried. What happens if the other pitcher saw this and then said, hey, look, I'm going to throw you meatballs. You just have to give me $10,000 after you hit the cycle again.

Oh, that would be interesting. That would be smart. That just crossed my mind because if I was the other pitcher, that's what I would probably reach out and do. At Ohio Dominican? That's right. Yeah, but you think Ohio Dominican pitcher wants any of those stats to go against him?

You know what they say about Ohio Dominican, though? What do they say? They don't care. They don't care at all. Well said. All they care about is the change in their pocket. Allegedly. Allegedly.

No, no. Actually, that's what I've been told about Ohio Dominican. Yeah, quite a slanderous term. I'll be excited to see what the battle is. That pitcher probably does not want the guy that's been on SportsCenter as a D2 baseball player doing anything against him. Probably looking forward to it. The shit that's being talked by the Ohio Dominican teammates of the pitcher,

you know, that is going against. This guy was on SportsZone. This guy's a better pitcher than you. And also, hit for the cycle. I mean, this is, if he gets a hitting. Oh, no. Look out. Think about that, AJ.

Ohio Dominican, probably some Ohio fucks on that team if I had to guess. I assume. Maybe. Yeah. So, wait, this is a nine-inning game, but some games are not nine-innings? Yeah, they do doubleheader seven-inning, right? Yeah. Whenever they play doubleheaders, seven innings back-to-back, single

game today, so it's nine-inning fair. Same team there, they're playing doubleheaders? Yeah. Hmm. MLB did that last couple of weeks. I'm sure they can stream the game. It has to be, like, you gotta be able to stream it. Yeah, you gotta watch it on mute, though. You think the universe... Yeah, the guy's a hater. The guy's a big-time hater. They're going to call it a home run.

That's what he said. It's a fucking home run. I was going to say, fucking exit velo is off the charts. Put it off double. Somehow gets a piece of it. Jesus. Gets a single.

He was a big hater. He was a double. Yeah, he was. I didn't know if that's how people reacted to the video or not before. That was my first time listening. I had not heard it. I'd only watched that video.

So as I'm listening, I'm like, you can kind of tell how that guy feels about that guy. It's also possible that the video quality was so dog shit that he had no idea. Oh, they're calling it a hook. Yeah, right. I guess I can kind of see the ball. You're right. So maybe the narrative was started in a bad way. That's like when Corey Graves talks about me when I come out.

Jeez Louise. I think I've always been nice to that guy. What's his deal? Yeah. What's it like when you, when you and him run into each other backstage? We don't. You guys,

you don't, right? They keep you guys separated. Don't they? Well, I've been separated from the entire company every single time I've gone back over the last, like,

you know, six, seven months or whatever, but geez, I'm listening to some of the things I'm like, wow, are you all right? I feel like I've been.

Yeah. I think it'd be very reasonable if you did see him to smack the taste out of his mouth, just based on what he says over the airwaves. Just loud, too. It's like, man, you are actually mad right now, dude. That's crazy. That's interesting. That's wild.

Because then you start wondering, like, why he would be mad. And it's like, oh, this dude's like one of the most confused people of all time yeah but whenever you hear him talk it's like yeah this guy actually doesn't like me as i'm listening to it i that that's kind of how i was listening to brady i'm like brady seems like this guy this guy not a believer in there and then he gets to the final inning when he hits for the cycle and the guy goes hey he's done it i'm like you want him over yep you got him brady by the end of the game no the kid was kid was smart. He saw his opportunity. He knew, hey, this is going to get played. This is going to get some national play.

I need to have one of those iconic calls. But the kid had a little bit of the boom goes the dynamite feel to it as the old classic internet clip from 15 years ago. He's working. Hey, the kid's working. He's trying to do his best. Speaking of working, Odell Beckham Jr. and Lamar Jackson probably going to be a thing it it feels like, at this point.

Is that how you're reading the situation, A.J. Hawk? I would imagine. I mean, I'm sure you guys have gone over it, but why would OBJ go there? If not, obviously they gave him a great deal, but if he's not confident Lamar is there, what do you have signed? You know, that's an interesting dilemma because they gave him $15 million guaranteed. Yeah.

And that's, you know, I think we're all incredibly pumped for odell beckham jr that means that the ravens believe after what they seen at his workout out in arizona that this is the same odell beckham jr that would have been a super bowl mvp if he would have been able to make it through the entire game he obviously blows his knee out in the middle of it which was devastating to watch all of us that have followed the odell beckham j. story and have become a fan of his, I like that he's just one-on-one. And he's fucking electrifying. He is so good at the football. All of his teammates seem to love him.

That is kind of the way it goes. Coming out of Cleveland, everybody assumed like, oh, maybe his teammates don't love him. Stefanski, literally as soon as he saw him two weeks ago at the league meetings, he goes, oh, O's here? Goes up, daps him up. Obviously him and Landry get along very well everybody else has spoke glowingly of him for whatever reason it just didn't work in cleveland

he goes to los angeles everybody loves him sean mcveigh's feeding on the ball every single week cooper cup and him were obviously a tag team that were fantastic but he scored a touchdown every single fucking game in what stafford and mcveigh were able to do him? Will they be able to do that in Baltimore? They obviously understand that he can be a weapon still. He's their number one. How do you feel about it? I think he signs knowing that Lamar's going, but also 15 million being a number one again

with a chance to prove it yet again that he is still Odell Beckham Jr. And I just, I don't know. Do you think it means Lamar deal is done in Odell Beckham Jr.'s eyes? Is that how you read it? No, I don't think. Do you think it means Lamar deal is done in Odell Beckham Jr.'s eyes? Is that how you read it? No, I don't think the Lamar deal is done. I believe that he has to feel pretty confident that it will get done.

I think that's why he went there. And obviously it's a big deal that he gets 15 mil guaranteed. Hell yeah. He's slotted in as the number one guy instantly from day one, which I don't know many other teams where that would happen. So there's a lot that goes into it. But yeah, does he, I mean, Odell still wants to win, though. He wants to win games.

He wants to get balls thrown his way. Yeah, it's not good whenever you lose. And remember, the last time he was with this offense coordinator had like 100-some targets through the season, first year to Cleveland Browns organization, before Munkin left to go down and coach Georgia to a couple national championships. Now he's back in the NFL.

Pac-Man, I don't know your relationship with OBJ or Odell Beckham Jr. What are your thoughts on them coming together? And do you think he thinks that the Lamar deal is definitely happening? I think he thinks the Lamar deal is going to happen, but this is a good deal for OBJ. Great. Let's talk about that. What part of an agent does this play in?

I don't know. I've seen the thing in the club where they was out having a great time. If I was Ben Lamar, I'd say, hey, man, who did that deal? Because it's an unbelievable deal. He got a chance to make $20 million. Nobody in free agency have got more money than him, really pretty much guaranteed that's having played in a whole year.

So, like, this is a big deal for Lamar. I mean, for OBJ. I think this is good, though. I do think there's been some talks between him and Lamar if I had to bet. Like, hey, look, I'm close to getting it done. Yeah, because Lamar's with him the night he signs and talks to him beforehand. OBJ had to test the temperature, you would think. Yeah.

Test the temperature on you. Are you going to sit out? People are saying you're sitting out a year. But maybe just – He did give the Jets – Go ahead. He did give the Jets another chance ahead he did give the jets another chance so like is that on the other side is that like he just wanted to play with rogers more even though

that deal's not done yet or he's trying to get more money yeah i think i think he saw 15 million it was like i'm gonna be a number one yeah snoop made the pro bowl last year right monken is a guy that uses me in his offense. I don't know if the Lamar thing is necessarily as important to it all, but they were out together. They had to have talked, and it seems like it's great news for Ravens fans that Lamar's going to be back. We mentioned it yesterday, or you mentioned it, how this is kind of the Ravens showing him that they're willing to go all in.

But isn't it also possible that this is still just like all this really does is extend their window maybe one to two. It's possible Lamar still just plays on the tag and then plays on the tag again and is still out the door. Odell's deal is, yeah, there's the four void years on it or whatever, but it's still ostensibly like a one-year deal. It's possible that this is kind of just like, hey, we'll just extend our window for a year or two here

because we know that everything with Lamar is still kind of at the point of no return. And him reaching out to the Jets, it's like, that does make sense. But also, if he could get that contract in a New York market, he probably knows, like, hey, there's even more money if I can get this same exact deal.

But Lamar's got to be pumped because would this kind of maybe lean him to come off whatever his number is just because incentive-wise, he wouldn't feel better about the passing numbers with Odell? Hell no, Lamar not coming off his numbers. He was guaranteed. Right.

He might have told OBJ, hey, look, I'm going to go and play for this $43 million. Now, that might be in the conversation. Hey, look, we're going to go play one year, bro. No, the franchise? Yeah. Yeah, we'll just do one more year. See how it goes. And if we win, the next deal is going to be big for both of us.

Joining us now is a man who I assume has at least an opinion or two on this and also can break down the entire NBA playoffs that are about to take place starting tonight. Here we go. He's in two Hall of Fames, probably going to be in three after his most recent book. Got your number. Ty Schmidt has read. I have, yeah. Not the whole thing, but it is in my bathroom sitting right there,

and I read about probably like 75 pages. I've seen on the internet, though. A lot of people got this book. Greeny had to say, hey, get it at Barnes & Noble. It's flying off the shelves everywhere. This is the easiest way to get it and the quickest way to get it. Smashing success. Going to be in a writing hall of fame at some point, we assume.

Before this, he just wrote fucking novels. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, Mike Greenberg. Yay! Hello, boys. point we assume before this he just wrote fucking novels yeah yeah ladies and gentlemen mike greenberg hello boys well it was all you mcafee i mean the book came out on a tuesday and it was doing all right and then it came on here on wednesday and the next thing i know amazon doesn't have any more copies so i think this is all you guys more than anything else hey we're lucky to be a part of it obviously you've been a massive piece of our entire journey here allowing me on your show if we did a little bit now i'm not saying that we are necessarily the readers program but we did have a book club that i believe was second in size behind oprah at one

point through mr aaron rogers we were a part of it some of those books have gotten taken off the desk because they were taking up so much space and they're so damn big so that we could make room, ladies and gentlemen, for the new staple of the desk, Greeny. Hell yeah. I love it. You didn't sign it, though, which is fascinating. I saw you signing a bunch of them. Now, I get a lot of books from a lot of people. People are very nice.

They send these books in. They say, Dear Pat, hope this is the first one you read. Thanks to the boys for all the support. Autograph order. Well, I think that's probably the one that the publisher sent you. I have one headed to your home. You will see. It might look a little different.

But here's the only thing I'll say. The two places I really wanted this book to be were the Pat McAfee desk and Ty Schmidt's bathroom. Hell yeah. to be were the Pat McAfee desk and Ty Schmidt's bathroom. So if I made it to both of those places, then I feel like this has been everything that I was hoping it would be. I got one more for you, Greeny. We also officially beat COVID. The memo was put out yesterday. Okay, not me. This is not me. This is not Greeny. This is not anybody. I seen it on the internet. Might have been fake. The White House says

COVID's dead. Greeny is on this desk and in Thai shitter. What a time. This is the greatest Tuesday of all time. Here we go, Greeny. I feel like I played a small role in this one as well. I have no idea. Greeny, thank you for joining us. We were just

talking about the Lamar Odell beckham jr situation 15 million guaranteed is obviously an incredible deal for odell we're happy the last time he was with monk and he had great success in cleveland is this uh hey he thinks lamar's gonna be around that deal is gonna get done or do you think he's just like this is a great situation for odell beckham jr and a team that's very good i don't understand it that's why i was actually enjoying while i was on hold listening to you guys and pac-man breaking this down because look let's just i'm not the smartest guy in the world well i just pretty close well i can read the things that people write so

the last thing we heard from lamar jackson was thank you everybody in baltimore i will always love you goodbye that's the last thing we heard from Lamar Jackson. Then the next thing that I saw when they signed Odell was, look who we got. So he's still considering himself part of we. Everyone I've met on Get Up the last couple of days says that they do not believe that Odell would have gone to Baltimore without some assurance from Lamar that he was coming back. Here's the only thing I will say. I cannot believe that the entire National Football League is going to let Lamar Jackson be available and never make any move at it. We have one big benchmark to come. It's two weeks from Thursday, and someone is not going to get the quarterback they want. Like Mel Kuyper is now projecting

Tennessee to go trade up and get Baltimore, excuse me, and get Anthony Richardson. You're going to trade up and get Anthony Richardson, who if everything goes perfectly, in two years will be three quarters as good as Lamar Jackson has been. Someone explain that to me. Why? You're going to have to trade up eight spots. You're going to give up just about as much as it would cost you to trade greeny yeah but greeny that gm that gm right drafted that gm saw it this is a brand new gm right their vision their team they build it you know i think that's kind of something that some of these new gms potentially think about too greeny don't you think right

no those are stupid things to think about. They should only be thinking about winning. Humans, though. Humans. Humans. Egos. These humans, their job is to figure out the best way to win. There has never been a player like Lamar Jackson, which is to say there has never been a quarterback who hasn't even entered his prime of his caliber who was suddenly available. Hendon Hooker is going to be a first-round pick in this draft in two and a half weeks. Hendon Hooker is 25 in January. He'll be 26. Lamar Jackson is 26. This doesn't make any sense to me.

And I keep coming back to your Colts, and we talked about this the last time I was on here with you guys. The Colts and Mel's latest mock draft are going to take Will Levis. Will Levis is the ultimate role of the Dice. Maybe he winds up being terrific. We'll see. But there is no certainty in that whatsoever. They could sit tight at four and take him. Most of the, like when we did, I did, I'll tell you guys a quick story.

We did a five-hour Zoom last Thursday. It was me, Booger, Mel, Louis Riddick, Susie Culber, and all of the staff, everyone from the production team, doing the NFL draft. We did our own mock draft, meaning everyone sort of selected players. Will Levis went 16th in that. All of a sudden, the Colts are going to take him four because the three guys everybody wants are already gone? That doesn't make any sense to me at all.

That feels like such a randomness of allowing. Well, who was in there? Who was in there? Who was in there? Booger. I heard Lewis, the people who host the draft.

So it was Lewis Riddick, Booger McFarland, Mel Kiper, Susie Culber, and me. That's, that's who is, does the draft on ESPN.

And we'll have this one up going 16 in that so so fourth round fourth round of your guys's draft zoom and in theory i mean it was a mock draft it wasn't a fantasy draft it's a mock draft but you understand what i'm saying he he is at best a mid first round player in an in a real universe where we didn't overvalue quarterbacks to the degree that we do now he probably wouldn't even go in the first round there were so many questions about him and yet the Colts the Colts are going to build their future around him when Lamar freaking Jackson is sitting there available for probably not much more than it would cost you to trade up in this draft and some money.

You're making a lot of sense. I don't understand it at all. Yeah. Well, we'll let us just to be clear, if he becomes Indianapolis, Colt pumps, you're here,

pal. Yeah. Jack jocks. He's so jocks. He's so jocks. Without being said, Lamar Jackson is a cold fucking ecstatic. That's your hair.

Cool. Are you aware, by the way, of Will Levis's, um, man, eating quirks? Yes, he puts mayonnaise in his coffee and eats bananas with the peel on them. That's questionable.

He's an independent. Yeah, he's an anomaly. He doesn't let people tell him what to do. It might taste like shit, sure, but he's not letting somebody else tell him how to eat his banana. Isn't decision making one of the most important characteristics in a But he's not letting somebody else tell him how to eat his banana. He's not letting anyone. Isn't decision-making one of the most important characteristics in a successful quarterback?

Are we happy with the decisions he's making when it comes there? All right, let's get back to the serious business of this. I don't understand Pac-Man. I was enjoying listening to your analysis of this as I was waiting to come on. Has Lamar Jackson told Odell, I will be there this year? That's what I can't find out. I know they went out Sunday night. I know he posted the screenshot of the FaceTime. Has he told Odell, I will be there with you this year? I'm a big man. He told Odell that he's going to be there. One year though. Yeah. How does that work? He's going to play on the franchise tag?

One year. Guys, come on. You guys all played in the NFL. Lamar Jackson cannot play on the franchise tag. Greeny, he cannot sit out a whole year, Greeny. Yeah. He cannot do that, Greeny. He can force his way out of his situation.

He cannot allow himself to play on that tag. Greeny, he's been trying to force his way out the whole time. It hasn't worked. And he's not that type of guy. He would have to be a full-blown asshole to force his way out of there. He would have to show up and make it uncomfortable, which I think is completely against his nature. Or he could just take it all

the way out of the limit. If he doesn't sign the franchise tag, they can't do anything to him. He doesn't have to show up and pretend to have a hamstring. That's what we're saying. He could just tell those guys they're not going to play. But eventually, they wouldn't trade him rather than just keep him there and get absolutely nothing. The Ravens would rather have him sit out the season than trade him for multiple players or draft picks

or anything they could get for him. Le'Veon Bell tried it. It did not work. But let's talk about a different position. But my thought is, though, he sits out. They can franchise tag him one more time, right? Exactly. Next year, like this one,

if he sits out, what does that mean? If he sits out, he doesn't even accrue his year. And look, you guys know this better. You guys who played all those years in the NFL, you know far better than I do the value of accruing your year. In theory, they could make him sit out for the rest of his life. They could create a situation where they could say, Lamar, if you want to play professional football for a living then this is the only place you're going to do it but what kind of move would that be at the end of the

day we live in a sports world now where guys want out they get out aaron rogers wants out of green bay he's getting out they want russell wilson wanted out of seattle he gets out how do the ravens not let lamar out if he goes that far all those situations are different because they had younger guys that was groomed and ready to go baltimore don't want out no i understand that i mean because they're not ridiculously stupid as everyone else in the league seems to be because they have the option the option of keeping lamar jackson at a reasonable rate so does every other team in the national football league look if he's going to play on Because they have the option of keeping Lamar Jackson at a reasonable rate. So does every other team in the National Football League.

Look, if he's going to play on the franchise tag, then Pac-Man, help me. Why wouldn't he just take the best deal he can get on the open market? If he just took all of the provisions off, if he took all the guaranteed stuff off the table, you're telling me Atlanta, Indianianapolis some of these other teams wouldn't be calling immediately and trying to figure out a way to make a deal with him and then once they did making a trade with the ravens i think the part with the agent that has something to do with that part um that's what i answer yeah it's like it's very fascinating situation because like lamar representing himself not that something great might still come from all this. Yeah.

We have no idea. And deadlines obviously create action and things will happen and all that type of stuff. But he is kind of fucked. Oh yeah. If Baltimore wants it to be that way. And to Pac-Man's point, like the reason why the Aaron Rogers thing is happening,

why we all know what's happening, why Joe Douglas can be a little boozed up. He's going to be here. Right there at WFAN event or whatever. It's because Green Bay has acknowledged and admitted, remember Mark Murphy said publicly, he was asked, great question,

do you see Aaron being back with the Packers? He said, if everything we want to happen doesn't happen, then maybe. It was like, okay, so at that moment, the Packers were like like we're moving on aaron's moving on and the jets are like that it's just a whole different the baltimore situation two thousand percent sure that he was going to be a raven said harbaugh at a press conference at the end of the year and then now we're learning that there was a request for a trade at one point

and now it's this whole thing they signed odell with 15 million that's a lot of money but they're obviously spacing it out over five years they signed roquan they signed other people it's like uh and he said goodbye we i mean it's a that's a weird dynamic that we'll be talking about for a long time and i don't want to spend all day talking about let's talk about the aaron rogers situation i guess aj would know more than both of us aj what do you know about the situation where it is currently and when's it going to happen? I have no idea. I've always assumed that it's going to happen sometime around the draft, right? Is that what you think, Greeny?

Yes. And AJ, obviously, I would defer to anything you know, but I can tell you what I've heard. I've heard that Aaron has sent signals to the Jets that there's no reason for them to rush, that he's not coming until May anyway. So they're not missing out on anything right now. So they should hold out as long as it takes, and that ultimately they won't wind up having to trade the 13th pick in the draft, which is what I think this ultimately comes down to. Again, if I'm saying something, AJ, that you think is totally wrong let me know but I think that this is all about the Jets wanting to draft an

offensive tackle at 13 and Aaron Rodgers wanting them to draft an offensive tackle at 13 which I would want to if I was Aaron Rodgers and they will just hold out until the draft and they think the Packers will eventually say okay we'll take slightly less than we want because we want pieces to put around or in front of Jordan Love this year, not wait until next year. Another interesting question that will come up, if I may, is I got a bunch of Jet fans telling me that they think that rather than taking an offensive lineman at that point, that the Jets should draft Jackson Smith and Jigba, the spectacular wide receiver coming out of Ohio State, who basically had a washout of a year this past year because he was hurt all year,

but that if you put him and Garrett Wilson on the field with Aaron Rodgers and Alan Lazard, that you might actually have the best receiving core in the entire National Football League by halfway through the season. And Brees Hall. Brees Hall, too. I mean, let's not... Brees Hall on the backfield, obviously.

Michael Carter. They would have unbelievable weapons. They have Uzama and Tyler Conklin. Wow. As far as the receiving core, if we think that Jamar Chase and Tee Higgins is the best one-two punch at receiver in the NFL, that this could be recreating that.

That putting Garrett Wilson and Jackson Smith and Jigba out there with Alan Lazard, that that would be the way to go. I'm still one who thinks they should take an offensive lineman, but that is kind of an attractive little proposition to me. Jackson won't be there, AJ. What are your thoughts on that? 13. I think he'll be there at 13.

Yeah, I don't know. I haven't checked enough mocks. I don't know yet. Maybe Jackson Smith and Jigbell will be there. He's a stud. I mean, I guess how many – I don't know. I don't know. There's so much talent on that offense already.

Yeah, it would be a huge boost. Is that what Aaron's saying? Is that what Aaron's saying to you? What you said, Greeny, about the whole thing. Greeny, you're saying you're hearing Aaron saying, hey, don't rush because he's not coming until May. That's the first I'm hearing of that, but I don't know. If you look at his history, did he go to the offseason?

When's the last time he showed up in April for the offseason program? It's history. So he's saying it's already out there. I think it's been a while. That's what he's saying. So I think the Jets don't feel in any rush. Even I'm not worried about this. I will tell you, I don't know exactly how it is I'm perceived,

but I have people walking up to me. This is the power of the Pat McAfee show. I have people walking up to me in the street and saying that they are conflicted because they want the Jets to get Aaron Rodgers so badly, but they also want to hear me curse on this show so badly. It's like the idea of of their father saying a swear word or something. The first time you hear your father curse, it's always kind of a shocking moment, right? You're nine years old and your father does something and he's like, ah, you know, and he says something

you don't expect to hear from him. I think people want to hear that. So I'm, that is, people are walking up to me in the street and pointing out that this is what they want. Everyone is aware of what I have writing on this what do you say what do you say do you go fuck yeah is that what you say no hell no i'm not there's no way that's not happening aaron is coming aaron is coming well then i'll do it the

day we win the afc championship there it is hey that got a lot of the monday after the afc championship hey did you know that was going to get as much traction as it did on the internet i i knew it was a big deal like because obviously you've been on people's TVs for so long. You're in two Hall of Fames. That's how long you've been on. You've had two Hall of Fames careers already in front of all of us. So I knew that it was certainly something, and it would be so cool to hear you just drop one big, Whoa, fuck!

That would be awesome. I'm more than excited. whoa, fuck! You know, like that would be awesome. Or an excited, you know, that Bob Knight video of how fuck is the greatest word in the English language because of how many different ways you can use it. You can be in dismay. Oh, fuck! You can be pissed off. Fuck you!

You can be happy. Fuck yeah! Like you can do, I'm excited for whatever fuck you say. I want to like, whatever you fucking say, I want to be, I didn't know it was going to go as big as it did. It got huge. I mean, I think I had like 300,000 views on twitter within like 24 hours and everybody's like yes yes yes yes need it what was life like for you as you were realizing how interested people were

into hearing a lot of people walking up and cursing at me in the street i mean it's pretty but that's what you do to me i'm trying to have a life here i'm walking down the street my wife is greeting every dog that we walk past we got to to stop and talk to her. I have one of those wives, which is I have to plot an extra 15 minutes anywhere I'm going in the city if I'm walking there because we're going to stop everyone and talk to their dog. That's not optional. That's just what's going to happen. And then someone will look over and they'll realize it's me. I'm going to be like, hey, that's the guy who's going to curse on the Pat McAfee show. And so people are looking forward to it.

And I'm hearing that word a lot. Okay, well, let's get it done. The good one. That's right. Not the bad one. Ty has some questions for you, Greeny. Yeah, Greeny, switching gears a little bit here. NBA playoffs start tonight, obviously.

Please make sense of the whole Rudy Gobert, Timberwolves situation. That makes absolutely no sense that they'd give up as much as they gave up to get him and then you suspend him for fucking shoving a guy in the chest and also uh who do you kind of like as a dark horse this year in the playoffs well i like the lakers uh but i mean if we if unless you count unless you count like golden state and pho Phoenix as dark horses. Look, the top three teams in the Western Conference are Denver, Memphis, and Sacramento. And candidly, I like them the least of all the teams that are going to wind up in the playoffs outside of the eight seed.

Whoever winds up eight, whether it's Minnesota or I guess in theory it could be the Lakers. But I expect the Lakers to win tonight easily. So Minnesota, New Orleans. I think they win easily. The last number I saw was eight and a half. That's the last that I saw was eight. Yeah, I see it now on your screen too. Eight and a half. That game opened at five and a half.

And the public is bedded up like crazy. The Gobert thing obviously jumped in in the middle of that. I'd be curious to know what the athletes think. Look, i shouldn't be hijacking your show and asking you guys questions but like aj you played like the jets one time had a player named ik and polly who broke their quarterback's jaw in a fight in the locker room they got into a fight in the locker room he punched gino smith in the face and broke his jaw obviously no one's jaw got broken in this or whatever. But do you think that it is going overboard when a player, you know, we all saw what Gobert did. I don't need to explain it.

Is that going too far? To suspend him for a game upon which your season basically rides, is that too much? No, I think when we saw what they gave up to get Rudy Gobert and all that they're paying him, I was shocked at the fact that they're going to suspend that guy in the game that means the most in the whole season. Like, this is where it all matters, and you're going to sit him down.

But also, it makes me think, I'm not sure what kind of relationship this guy has with not only his teammates, but the coaches and the front office, too, because we mentioned yesterday, like, if it was somebody that they'd really want in, they'd be throwing their jersey on the desk like they did Rudy. Yeah, they were looking for a reason almost to suspend him, it seems like. You know? Like, they gave him a reason.

Like, oh, now we're allowed to say Rudy, get the hell out of here almost. Now, he was playing through an injury. And what was Woj's report? Although they will acknowledge that Anderson called him a bitch numerous times, even though he was playing through an injury that was woge's tweet hey listen that's your teammate okay that is hey if that would be a tweet i want to hear woge read that one live on the air don't you am i the only one who wants to hear woge just read that i'm going to try and get him to read that tomorrow night on nba countdown i think that would be pretty funny

so i guess what you're saying is that he may be a go bear, but he's no Rudy as far as the way his teammates feel about him and his real life. I mean, that is, that is a whole nother stage of conversation there about the movie. But like, yeah, it's,

that was why we were so alarmed to AJ's point. Like be who you can afford to be is these motto of professional sports. You see people get away with shit that are really good at things, and then you see people that aren't, like, don't get away with anything. You know, like, I got suspended for a game for a public intoxication during a bye week. You think if anybody who actually mattered

to the team's success got a public intoxication during a bye week, they were going to get suspended? Absolutely not. This was a, hey, this guy, we can certainly do without him, can't have this fucking happen, and everybody else needs to see it. He's suspended.

Be who you can afford to be. Rudy Gobert, after we saw everything that they gave up for him and how much money he's getting paid, you'd assume he could smack anybody. Yeah. Like you, just because of who and what they invested in him. That was not the case at all. They had security escort him out of the building, they said, the first night, because at halftime they're getting back into it again.

It's like that's not a guy that's like beloved by everybody, I don't think, but maybe I'm reading humans completely wrong. Well, then there was that stat that came out either today or last night after it happened that like the T-Wolves record is much better when Gobert doesn't play than it is when he plays. Yeah, they're under 500. He's not playing to the Gobert that we know this year. Yeah, they're under 500. He's not playing to the Gobert that we know this year.

I don't know Gobert. The only way I know him is whenever he did the COVID magic thing. That's how I met him, Greeny. I met him through this one. Wee, wee, wee, COVID. Ça va, ça va, COVID, COVID. That's what I heard. And then the next day, the world stopped. Yeah.

I think the Lakers win tonight easily. Yeah, I think the Lakers win tonight easily. And then I think the Lakers beat Memphis. And so they're sitting there in that next layer of the playoffs. Phoenix and the Clippers is a really good series. I like Phoenix. I think Denver gets out of whoever they wind up playing in the first round. And I think Golden State beats Sacramento. So if that holds,

then how about this second round matchup? The Warriors against the Lakers. Steph against LeBron. That sounds awfully good to me in the second round with Kevin Durant possibly. And I think Durant will win. I like Phoenix on the other side.

So I think we're going to get either Golden State or the Lakers against Phoenix in the Western Conference final. That's pretty good. Okay, so whenever I hear you talk about LeBron and Steph there, I hear genuine excitement there. Did you hear that?

Oh, yeah. I mean, he was incredibly pumped. And I just see you in your A block there. Oh, my God. LeBron and Steph. That it's time to get up. That monologue, cutting a promo about stephan lebron putting on a show the night before and we still have three more games at least to go

oh you heard it huh is that why you were thinking about that they met each other in the finals four straight years they are the two preeminent players of their generation they are the two immortals of this era does lebron have one more left in him to carry this Lakers team alongside Anthony Davis all the way back to an NBA final? Or does Steph go for number five, which could actually make people change the entire narrative? Does this era become Steph's era? Can Steph Curry still make this the Steph Curry era

rather than the LeBron James era? Basically, basketball is always about the preeminent player. It was Michael Jordan's league, then it was Kobe Bryant's league. It has felt as though it's been LeBron's league at this point for 20 years. Steph has been there for most of that time. Could Steph, who already has one more title than LeBron does, actually make this something we have to look back on as the Steph Curry era of the NBA rather than the LeBron James era

of the NBA. That's what would be at stake as the Lakers and Warriors meet in game two. Much more in a moment. You're watching Get Up. Hell yeah. I was about to say it's time to get up here on ESPN if you didn't finish it off there. Yeah, we just heard the whole fucking open. Hey, what an incredible promo you just got. Two Hall of Fames, that guy. Connor has a question for you, Greeny. That was remarkable. Right into it.

Did you hear that? Pros pro. Boom. Right into it. How's it going? Keep it moving. Two Hall of Fames. And I got more on the way, especially in the second round game.

Couldn't even imagine what happens next. Kevin Durant's going to get involved. Wait until you hear about this. There ain't no. Since he's gone to the Phoenix Suns, he's been in the lineup. Kyrie obviously goes to Dallas. They're not good. Can't wait to see what you piece together to put over Kevin Durant with the

Phoenix Suns wherever they're going on a run, which seems inevitable. And that Booker dude, we got to see him play live. Greeny. Smooth. He moves in slow motion. So good. He's so good. And then the bucket is bigger when he shoots it. They were right there last year, I think. It's going to be a good time.

I guess the NBA playoffs are a good time to be Mike Greenberg. Connor has a question for you, pal. Yeah, Greeny, look, I do have a question, and I'm not a LeBron guy here, and I'm just reminding myself that you're a Jets fan, but you said that Steph had one more than LeBron, and they both have four. You've got to remember that bubble championship.

Well, that doesn't. Oh, that's right. LeBron, okay, I apologize. You've got to remember that bubble championship. Oh, that's right. LeBron, okay, I apologize. You're right. They have the same number. The good news is that we taped those, so I could do it again. Someone would... Three, two, one, and...

We'll redo the opening three, two, one. I'll be back. Just in case you need to reuse that. I didn't want you to have to do that two or three times. But you said you guys did that whole entire mock NFL draft. Did you guys have a unanimous number one? Because it's been going back and forth from Bryce to CJ. Now it feels like it's going back to Bryce.

And I assume we'll probably have one more back to CJ before the draft in two weeks. When we did it last Thursday, stroud went first and young went second um and here's what i can tell you for sure i have no i don't know which way it's going to go my sense is that it's going to be bryce young who goes first but when you look here's here's what i'm hearing more than anything else and i'd be curious to see if the football players agree that whoever goes first is in the dream situation. When you look at, because more great, well, not great, more young quarterbacks in the NFL are ruined than developed.

How good Bryce Young or CJ Stroud or Will Levis or Anthony Richardson wind up being is going to be determined at least as much, if not more, by circumstances beyond their control than by themselves. It's going to be about the coaching staffs they put together and what they put together in Carolina. Does the world know that Jim Caldwell is in Carolina? I don't even know. It's like been kept a secret. The offensive coaching there, the Frank Reich situation, they have Josh McCown there to work directly with the quarterback, Jim Caldwell.

Whoever shows up there, I believe they have Andy Dalton to be the starter for however long that goes. You don't have to throw a guy out there on the field. Whoever winds up in Carolina, I think, winds up the big winner in all of this. Obviously, you want to be the number one pick. But frankly, if the two were reversed reversed if Houston was picking one and Carolina was picking two I think down deep inside you'd rather be two than one you want to get to Carolina but to answer your question directly in the mock that we did last week CJ Stroud went one now Mel has flipped it to young one uh as of today if I had to bet on it I would bet that when it happens

that Bryce Young will be the first pick. Matt, what happened? Why do you think it got flopped over in the last week or so? Well, you just look at it. It's intangible. It's not exactly the same as a guy like C.J. Stroud. Obviously, he played for under Nick Saban. He's got the great relationship with Tepper and his wife.

Went out to dinner with him many times. Carolina is not that far from Tuscaloosa, so it makes a lot of sense. C.J. Stroud, Midwestern kid, by way of California. Just don't know if he's going to really like playing on the East Coast as much, so that's why I went with C.J. Stroud. But it was a one-week change, though. Did this all happen in the last week?

Well, as you know, the NFL's fucking crazy. Things change. Rumor has it C.J. Stroud, him and Mola Gata maybe kind of pulling strings a little bit, pissing a lot of people off, maybe demanding the kind of things that the other guy, who I won't mention his name, up in Cleveland, maybe he was demanding some things too.

I heard about that in Houston maybe being a thing. Well, exactly. Could be. So that's kind of where I'm standing right now. We'll see. I mean, we've still got two weeks to go before the draft. Might have a couple more changes. Who knows?

Check back next week. Will Levis might be going number one to Carolina. I don't know yet. Okay. Thank you, Mel. Wow. Thank mean, we still got two weeks to go before the draft. Might have a couple more changes. Who knows? Check back next week. Will Levis might be going number one to Carolina. I don't know yet. Okay, thank you, Mel. Wow. Thank you, Mel. Boy, that's so good. My God, isn't that good? Dude, he can say anything, too. It's a fun little game. Like, Coach Lou Holtz was here just a couple minutes ago, and I think he just came back.

Coach Lou Holtz, have you heard about Mel Kuyper's review of C.J. Stroud and Bryce Young and what's going on in Cleveland? Yeah, listen, I don't know how many times we got to do this, okay? Every time you bring up that son of a bitch Mel Kiper, my blood boils just a little bit hotter than it did when you mentioned it previously. CJ Stroud, you couldn't keep me.

So Bryce Young, Bryce Young, everyone's talking about him being the next Steph Curry. We're talking about Steph Curry right now, four championships. CJ Stroud's going to win four championships? I don't think so. about him being the next Jeff Curry. We're talking about Jeff Curry right now. Four championships. Like, you know, CJ Stroud's going to win four championships. I don't think so, but I think Bryce Young, you know, he put him in the right situation. David Kaepernick got all that money.

That'll be a tough one. Thank you, Coach. Thank you, Coach. It's unbelievable. He can say anything. You know, you should hear what he says off-air. These people just show up in conversation sometime out of nowhere, and they are not speaking. Just Hulk Hogan last hour.

Yeah, Hulk Hogan was in the last hour just going crazy on Pac-Man for his disrespect to the Scarlet in which he was rocking. It's the whole draft process. To add on to your point about Carolina being the top destination for one of these guys, which I assume Panthers fans could have never guessed they were going to be in that position that long ago. Remember, they've been, Tepper's been just like, who can win? I want to win now.

Who can win? I want to win now. Now it's like, hey, this seems to be a good spot to go to and be the quarterback of. Second richest owner in the sport. Now, who knows if Bezos is coming in or not, but second richest owner in sport, you win for that guy. He's going to pay you a lot of fucking money, too. Like, that's not one of those teams that don't have money.

It's like a dream situation for a young quarterback to go in there and have success. Hopefully, they'll be able to build up the team around them because situationally, there are a lot of quarterbacks that kind of get fucked out of the NFL. And thank you to Matt Belkyper and Lou Holtz for being there. Pac has a question for you. Greeny? Greeny, you heard my feelings. I'm a big LeBron fan. We was having this conversation.

Do we root for teams? Like, it's hard for guys that's playing to root for teams. So I follow LeBron since day one. My question is, you put him in category. You went Michael Jordan. You went Kobe Bryant. Then you said if LeBron. Because your opinion counts, Greeny.

Yeah, two Hall of Fames. Your opinion counts more than anything you know. Are we really putting LeBron in the same category as Steph Court? Don't Steph and KD deserve their own, or the guys, the Greek freak? Giannis. Giannis. Giannis, how can we put them up there with the top, the Michael Jordan, the Kobe Bryant, and the LeBron James?

I think it's a legitimate question. No, you're right. I think what I tried to say was that this has been perceived to be the LeBron James era of basketball, basically from the moment that Kobe handed him that. Final was like 16 years or something. Yeah. I think it was nine years in a row. Magic Johnson, I remember one night I was watching and he introduced LeBron James in an interview. I think Magic was working for it might have

even been on abc i don't remember and he said lebron you're the best player in the world like that's that's the um that's the mantle that we're talking about here and it has been assumed by everyone that this is lebron's era there are some people who will tell you they think lebron is historically a greater player than michael jordan I'm asking is if Steph Curry wins another championship, if he's got multiple regular season MVPs, if he winds up having multiple finals MVPs, if he winds up breaking all the records that he has, if he winds up doing it all for one franchise and wins five championships and

basically revolutionizes the sport as we know it i think then does he stake a claim to actually having ownership of the era he's i think most people would say no i think it has to pac-man you're telling me you don't think it's a legitimate conversation i think durant is a step down yannis it's too soon we got to wait and see what yannis becomes but steph i think is an immortal on that level and I think if he wins another one with the same group I mean there's something to be said for that you know there's something to be said for doing it as part of a dynasty LeBron goes from place to place and I'm not knocking him at all LeBron 100% deserves to be considered amongst the greatest players of

all time he's on my Mount Rushmore of basketball history. Four guys. But Steph would be if you wanted to make an argument for Steph, if he wins another one with this team, you could make a pretty compelling argument if you wanted to. I think so. Especially as you lay it all out right there. And who knows how long Steph's going to be able to go

for. Remember, he's cracking all-time records, and he's still got no end in sight, it appears, for Steph Curry. He's fun to watch. He has changed the game, too, giving a lot more people hope. But LeBron, I mean, to your point, I am also a LeBron fan. He said he went to nine straight finals or whatever, but then what, he took a year off, and then he was back the next year. I mean, he is in the prime time of basketball, which is right now, the playoffs. LeBron has been there since he got into the league, pretty much, as a high schooler. And in high school, everybody was saying this guy was supposed to do exactly what he's done.

His mental toughness and ability to kind of stick with it is something that should not ever be questioned. They're playing two different styles of basketball, don't you think, Michael and LeBron, Granny? I mean, two different. Yeah, of course. Two different sports. Two different sports, almost.

You're talking about Michael and LeBron or Steph and LeBron? Mike and LeBron. Well, there's a whole other one. Steph brings in a whole other era of basketball, I think, as a sport. I was watching that last dance segment. I didn't grow up in an NBA town. I'm from Pittsburgh, hockey town. Good luck, Boston.

We'll see you in the playoffs. Maybe. Penguins are about to make their way in there. Didn't grow up in an NBA-like town, so I didn't watch a lot of NBA other than the Lakers late night because the late show was awesome growing up with Shaq and Kobe and everybody over there. Didn't grow up in an NBA town, so I didn't watch a lot of NBA other than the Lakers late night because the late show was awesome growing up with Shaq and Kobe and everybody over there. So I didn't really pay attention to basketball as much. I watched that last dance. I saw people dribbling

up to their nipples, Greeny. I saw people dribbling like this. I saw, you know what I mean? I saw some skill level that was vastly different than what the skill level is now. I understand it was much more physical back then. So you can ask the question, like, could LeBron survive back then? He's 6'8", 260 if he wanted to be. I think he could have.

Probably he's an Ohio fuck, too, so I assume he would be tough enough to kind of figure it out if he had to. Jordan, I think he could have figured out this basketball very easily. Like, Jordan would have dominated in this era, especially with his competitive juices. But it's two different sports, isn it it's two different sports they not only has the game changed but analytics have changed the game forever I will say this definitively I will say this and I I I will challenge anyone to debate this with me anytime they want let the record show

you grew up in a hockey town I grew up in this business covering michael jordan i was with him every day for four years i started out working in chicago locally and i covered him and those teams i covered him i went and followed him to baseball when he went down to play baseball so i was around jordan all the time if michael jordan played in today's nba he would average 40 points a game he would average 40 points a game. He would average 40 points a game. We got guys averaging 33 now. Michael Jordan never shot threes because no one shot threes back then. Michael Jordan's numbers should be viewed almost, his scoring numbers should almost be viewed in the same context as Jerry West's. Go back and look at his last championship in 98. Someone while we're sitting here, pull up at the final scores of those games were. The legendary games, the flu games and all

that stuff, those games were 88-86. That's how these games were being played. And Jordan averaged 30 in those games. Games today are being played 120 to 115. Michael Jordan, with the addition of threes, with how much less physical the game is and how hard he would play every night when half the league is load managing, Michael Jordan would average 40 points a game if he played in the NBA today. How much fun would that be to watch?

Unbelievable. I wish they would have innovated basketball quicker, like at the beginning, like to get basketball to this point. Because the three-point line, what year was that instituted, Greeny? It was in the sport in the late 70s i think 79 or something how come it was never yeah why was it never viewed as a weapon it was a wasted shot it was well it just wasn't considered

to be the highest percentage shot and analytics weren't a part of the conversation that much and people figured if you could if you had a better chance of making a closer one you would do it michael if you look up the total i don't have it in front of me. I wish I did, but I have done this research. If you look up the total number of threes, the night Michael Jordan shrugged like this, which was game two against Portland in 92. I was in the building when it happened, when he made the six threes in the first half. Steph Curry does that now all the time.

We were losing our minds. Oh, my God. Michael Jordan just took six threes and made six threes and a half. Steph Curry does that now all the time. We were losing our minds. Oh my God, Michael Jordan just took six threes and made six threes and a half. That's not uncommon in today's game. And if Jordan was playing in today's game, it wouldn't be uncommon for him either. Jordan, for his career, scored more points per game than any other player in NBA history in an era where scoring was at practically an all-time low. There are points being scored in the NBA right now. I don't have the percentages in front of me. I bet you they're scoring on average 20 points more per game right now than they were during the height of Michael Jordan's career. So 20%, I should say. So if you had 20% to his offensive

totals, then you would get the number 40 or something a little higher than that. And that's what I think he would average in the NBA today. In that 98 finals where he averaged 33 and a half, he took seven total threes in six games and was three of seven from, and he would have been able to figure out the, the, and how many points were they scoring? What were the,

what were the final scores what were their scores in those games he averaged 33 how many points did the bulls score just this what were the numbers of points they scored in those games 81 85 93 96 there 86 96 nowhere 96 would be a ridiculously low scoring game today. Jordan scored a third of their points. 81 is the low. 96 is the high. Nuts.

And he averaged 33 in this series. Without taking that many threes too, Green. He played every game too. Oh, hell yeah. In the last three seasons of Jordan's career in Chicago, 96, 97, and 98, Michael Jordan played 82, 82, and 82 regular season games. That's awesome. There will never, ever be Michael Jordan again.

All these guys are great. LeBron is an all-time great. He deserves all the accolades in the world. No one is Michael Jordan, and no one is ever going to be again. You're the Michael Jordan of hosting, aren't you? You absolutely are. We appreciate you taking the time out to chat with us. We can't wait to see the growth of the book continue to go. You know what I mean? Let's keep selling these things, Greeny. Why not? There's a wrong number in there, Pat. You know it. Oh yeah. I got a question, Greeny. I don't know if you remember at 0405,

there was a lockout in the NHL, and then a certain player came in and has been the face of the league for the last 20 years. He wore number 87, but you got some guy in there, 87, who wasn't even the best tight end on his team when he was playing with the best quarterback and coach of all time. So Sidney Crosby potentially. So Sidney Crosby versus Gronk has been one that we've gotten a lot.

So for anyone who doesn't know what he's talking about. That's because Pittsburgh people probably. We chose Gronk over Sidney Crosby. Gronk's numbers would suggest that he is the greatest tight end of all time. I know that you're saying that. I think you're suggesting that for a moment there, Aaron Hernandez was better than he was. Hell yeah.

They paid him first. He was a good player. On the football field. On the good player. On the football field. On the football field. On the football field. On the football field. He was a great football player. Yeah.

Unbelievable. I have no doubt. Especially with all that was going on. He played running back sometimes. They would hand him the ball. There was so much going on. Just think about the – oh, my God. I guess he had none.

That's why it was a – Yeah. That's a problem. Yeah. But, yeah, that is what he was he had none. That's why it was a problem. Yeah, that is what he was alluding to. So, sorry, go on and finish your point. No, there were a lot of people who disagreed. That was one of the toughest choices that we had to make, Sidney Crosby versus Rob Gronkowski at 87.

We did wind up choosing Gronk. He is the greatest tight end that ever lived. He is by far the most prolific weapon that Tom Brady ever had. His combination with him was actually greater than his combinations with Wes Welker, Randy Moss, and Julian Edelman combined as far as the total postseason numbers, the touchdown numbers, and everything else. Gronk is the greatest postseason receiver outside of Jerry Rice in the history of the sport. So we went with Gronk. It was also like having and Clay, I mean, AJ, you could probably

could I mean, I don't know why. Yes, for one brief second, I mixed up my Packers linebackers. You tell me. I've had people tell me that going up against Gronk was like having an extra offensive lineman on the field, but having Gronk out there was like having a sixth offensive lineman. He was that good

a blocker. Is that right? I would agree with that. He was a giant road grader, but he also could electrify the whole stadium. It's also tough, Greeny. I played when both those tight ends were there. You put both those guys in the field at the same time, tough to stop.

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upstate New York, right? Aren't they from somewhere in upstate New York? Yeah, yeah, they're from there. Graduated high school, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. So, 87 was going to be ours. Regardless, it's all good i think you made everybody happy you did a fan well you got 66 the folks in pittsburgh have hell yeah you got 58 you got 59 you got 75 um you did pretty well with you you did pretty well on

numbers in this thing and i'm trying to think off the top of my head if there are any numbers but pittsburgh the steel city well represented 18 i assume here out of indianapolis that was easy so 18 is one that has gotten a lot and i do mean a lot of controversy what because i want 18 what do we even i know 18 he's a sheriff. Yeah, sheriff. Nine here. Twelve. Geez, Andrew. Tom. Okay. Your thoughts on Ray Nitschke for 66? No, Lemieux. Say it again.

Lemieux. No, 66 is Mario Lemieux. Oh, yeah. I knew that. I was just wondering if Nitschke was in the running for him. Oh, yeah, sure. He was one of the people that we talked about. I didn't know this bullshit was in the running for him. Oh, yeah, sure. He was one of the people that we talked about. I didn't know this bullshit was

in here. We were telling people to buy this. 18 chapter. Let me start it off for you. Okay, so now you're going to get mad at me. That's what Greeny says to start this thing. And I get it. Peyton Manning is one of my favorite players too, and one of the greatest quarterbacks that ever

lived. But Jack Nicklaus is the greatest and most accomplished human being to ever play the great game of golf. And with his 18 major championships, 18 is the number with which he will forever be associated. Wow. Wow, what a heel turn at fucking 18. That's early.

Sorry, Sheriff. From zero to 100. That's early. 21. Here's what I will say. When all of us are long gone, and I mean, and I hope that we all live very long, healthy lives. Thanks, Grant.

The record for most major championships won by a golfer will still be 18. That is a record that was going to outlive all of us. It's going to outlive every player who is currently playing golf. It is one of those records that i think will never be broken jack nicholas is i think indisputably the greatest golfer that ever lived and that to me is worthy that is the number with which he is associated tiger himself talked about it all the time when they asked tiger do you think you're the greatest of all time he always he said 18 18 is the number that's what he was chasing now had tiger's body not betrayed him,

had Tiger's body not broken down as it did with all the surgeries and everything else in the late 2000s, I believe Tiger would have broken that record probably easily when you consider the fact that he's already at 15. He really only had half a career. But it didn't happen. He's good. And longevity is one of the ways that these things get decided.

Jack Nicklaus is the greatest player ever. We did find a place for him in the book. Didn't miss snap in two decades. We did find a place for him in the book, but I recognize that not giving him 18 is a big statement. I love

Peyton. He's one of my favorite players ever. He's one of the greatest players. Couldn't you find a different number for Nicholas? It would have been an easy win. This man won the U.S. Open six times. You could have just made up a different number. I mean, he won the Masters six times. They gave LeBron

the year he was born, not 23. That's short. That's what I'm saying. You could have done that for Jack. You could have got 18's not Peyton. That's Jordan. That's what I'm saying. You could have done that for Jack. You could have got 18's not Peyton. That's the number. That is the number. The appropriate number.

Peyton is well represented in the book. What chapter? It's the number. I don't have it in front of me. It's the number of touchdowns that he threw in the record-breaking years. That was with the Broncos yeah it's not 51 of course obviously of course if 51 is not barbie williams and got to that 51 is is dick but but here's what i will say

to you pat and what i wrote in the book it is my opinion that the best quarterback I ever saw consistently in my lifetime was Peyton Manning. I thought he was the best I ever saw. I thought week in, week out, game in, game out. I can't even get his damn number, Greeny. He's better than anybody. He's not better than Jack. I hate to say it, but he's not better than Jack. Greeny, you are awesome.

We appreciate you. Thank you for these tales. And although Ty said it's in the bathroom, it does feel like it's perfect shitting reading. Unbelievable. A lot of times my wife will grab me and be like, hey, you've been in the bathroom for an hour. Oh, that's why I can't feel my feet. Well, yeah, I've read four chapters. What do you want me to do?

I was done 25 minutes ago. I got from 26 to 30 real quick. Had to figure out who was 29. What do you want from me? But poop's finished 20 minutes ago. We appreciate the hell out of you, Greeny. You man uh you guys are the best pleasure as always i'll see you soon hey you've been on too much don't you think it's been good i think i've enjoyed it has it been too much for you too much airtime it is it hasn't been too much for me if it's not too much for you guys and as i've said it before i'll say it again i

finally get to be on my wife's favorite show. This is my wife's favorite show. Over and above all the ones. I host four shows on ESPN. And this is her favorite one. So we got Get Up, Hashtag Greeny. We got NBA Focus. Oh, Countdown. And the NFL Draft.

And the NFL Draft. Are you guys doing NBA countdown through the playoffs? Tomorrow night. Yeah, we'll be back tomorrow night for the play-in games. We have two play-ins tomorrow, then Friday. Then we have four NBA playoff games on Saturday. And one or two, I think we have just one on Sunday. And then it begins.

And we'll be rolling straight through until June. I will take a quick pit stop in Kansas City for a few days and do the NFL draft. Are you traveling all these places? Yes, I am. That's why we had the procedure, as I think I explained to you guys. Oh, and by the way, you know, again, our audiences, I think a lot of people who know this show, you know, probably know me, but there are certainly many who do not because you guys appeal to it. You know, such a different group of people. Everybody fucking knows you, Greeny, okay? No, not everybody. So what I wanted to say is after I talked on this show last time I was on about exactly

what happened with my heart and all that stuff, I mean, I got such nice notes from people telling me how happy they were and everything. I just want to say to thank you to everybody. It made me feel so good. And so thanks. want to say to thank you to everybody it made me feel so good and so so thanks and and as i said when i when we had that conversation last time um we did it we were able to have the procedure when we wanted it wasn't an emergency um so we timed it so that i would be recovered in time to go on the road with the playoffs and with the draft and this is that time i will be in la this

weekend okay well travel safely and know that the reason why you're getting so many notes is because we're all very appreciative of what you contributed to the sports world over your lifetime and continue to do so when you're not on get up our life sucks so we appreciate you to this day we can't wait to watch nba countdown with you on the road travel safe stay energized can't wait to watch you on the draft. We'll be live from here with some shenanigans. You're the man, buddy. We appreciate you, ladies and gentlemen. You're the best.

Thank you, guys. Yay! ...as a man who's doing a great thing with a hat company here in Indianapolis, Indiana, and also a two-time, two-time Super Bowl champion. Ladies and gentlemen, offensive lineman for the Cincinnati Bengals, the Dolphins, and the New England Patriots, Ted Kers. Yeah! Thank you guys for having me.

The Thunderdome is an Indy legend, so I'm glad to be here. My boys are going to be pissed. Okay, so you're from Indy. From Indy. Born and raised. Raised. Well, yeah, eighth grade moved in here because your dad, we literally just learned this, your dad is a small college coaching legend, head coach here at Marion University in Indianapolis now since eighth

grade? Since eighth grade. Well, he was retired. They brought him back into the game this year. I'm actually, after this, going to coach the O-line at Spring Pack. Oh, yeah. Okay. Here we go.

Okay. And your dad, football coach, football player? Yes. And your father's father, also football player? Ted Karras Sr., yep. And your... And then two of my great uncles also played in the NFL. Okay, so in your...

How many NFLers are there? Five players, four rings. Wow. Not a bad family. Pretty good. Not a bad football family there. AJ never really gets talked about. Let's go ahead and talk about the hat sales that you've got going on right now.

This is how I initially learned that you were from Indy because of how incredible the work you were doing was for Indy so I appreciate you doing this for the city and also I think it's a nice time to get it out there and let others kind of join in and help well thank you so much for giving me a platform it started with the Cincy hat I just made these as a gift for my teammates my neighbors in Florida run a golf supply business and we made up a hat made up a logo everyone went nuts for them we decided to sell them for charity have sold over a half million dollars worth okay is that good here we go half a million dollars to make

the world a better place and we we want to tie it in i'm an indie guy um and we wanted to tie it in the hometown the village of marichi is 10 minutes down the road. That's the organization that this benefits. So we're coming out with the Indy hat. And the Village of Marichi is the only facility in Indiana that provides independent living for adults with Down syndrome, autism, any developmental disability. How did you get connected to the Village of Marichi, Paisana? My best friend who's here today, Matt Reaney, his mother founded it back in the early 2000s. And, you know, we've always done service with them

and figure they do about just as good as anyone in the world. So very proud to be a small part of what they do. An incredible service to families and the people around the state of Indiana. We appreciate you selling these hats to raise some money and do good with the platform that you have. Not only has he got two Super Bowl rings, he's got a really good brain. That's right. And a really big heart.

Let's talk a little bit more about that. There was a clip that came out from this past season, and I know we're talking about the philanthropical side. Of course. The do-good side. Right. I would like to talk about the competitive drive a little bit. This is when this human really got brought into our radar, I think.

And now he's a guard. He's a two-time Super Bowl champion. And obviously we have in the trenches, and we respect offensive linemen, I think, more than a lot of different programs out there. But whenever we really learned of this man was when this happened after a massive win against the Tennessee Titans this season. Yeah! Fuck yeah! Yeah! Yeah. Fuck you.

Yeah. Right up yours, Tennessee. Fuck you. Fuck you. Give a fist bump on the way out with the helmet. Is that every game or Tennessee in particular have a little bit more heat for you? The exchange right before that, I got punched right in the neck by

Jeff Simmons. I was yelling at the Titans for a while there, but then took a break, then came back and freaked out a little bit. My dad called me five minutes later. You tweeted it. He's like, hey dude, you're going viral, man. I'm like, for what? I don't remember my exact words. Did I say it was the most awesome thing of all time? Yeah, you did it. Yes. And he's like, hey, dude, you're going viral, man. Yeah. I'm like, for what?

I don't remember my exact words. Did I say it was the most awesome thing of all time? Yeah, you did. I really appreciate that. You sold a lot of hats because of that. Yeah. AJ, as it was happening, you were like, yes, that seems like it was out of a fucking movie, AJ.

It's real because you could tell, like, yeah, there is a feeling you can get. I think he really showed us, hey, you get pretty juiced. If you go to somebody's place, you beat them. Obviously, I didn't know about getting punched in the neck and that whole situation. But, man, what a way to walk off the field. Hopefully that kid's hands are all right. You blasted with your helmet, too.

How long have you been at Cincy? One year. Okay, so. You got two more. Two more. You signed a three-year deal. Congratulations. Hell yeah.

Hell yeah. Keep it going. But, like, I think a lot of people that don't love the NFL as much as college football, they think NFLers don't care, right? They're like, oh, they're just playing for the money. They're playing for the money. Right there, I think we saw genuine emotion, which is why I thought it was awesome, especially to a brand new team your first year there.

And you look like a human that was like, yeah, actually, you weren't a robot. Fuck you. Fuck you. Up yours, you said at one point. Yeah, that's like straight out of the 50s. Yes, it was a move. Fuck you. Fuck you. Up yours, you said at one point. Yeah, that's like straight out of the 50s. Yes, it was a move. Where's that even come from? Is that normal shit talk for you or are you a normal

fuck you guy? I'm pretty silent, man. Until it was like, you know, I put all my energy into making the block. There's some physical freaks in this league and I need to be able to be at my best. I try not to let my emotions get the best of me. I was a tad bit embarrassed after that.

Embarrassed? I was going viral. It's a weird moment when you're like that. I've never had that experience before. Then it ended up the reception from Cincy was incredible. Loved it. He's a glass eater. I fucking loved it too.

It was amazing. I'm so grateful to Cincinnati. I feel like where I was always supposed to be, where I was always supposed to play ball. Well, you got to understand, the year before you got here, my buddy Joe had got hit at least 100 times. Yeah. So it was like this was a great feeling for the city, man,

going down there and smashing them. I remember when you tweeted it, but the city was going crazy at that time. I don't think Cincinnati and the state, I say the state of Ohio, because the other team up there is not that good. But this road that we've been on the last two years have been crazy. Okay, so let's talk about that. You've obviously won two Super Bowls with New England. You get drafted up there to play football out of Illinois.

You go to Miami, you go back to New England, now you're at Cincy. Team is great. I think we all agree with that. Joe Burrow, the next Tom Brady is what people are calling. I guess you would have a much better read on that than everybody else. But do you sense something special in Cincy? Because we all obviously just assume at some point Joe Burrow's going to win a Super Bowl, Cincy's going to have a Super Bowl, which is kind of an understood thing. But the AFC is fucking stacked right now. And I think everybody understands that. What is it in there that you

feel? And is that the same feeling that I should have? Yes. Joey B's a killer and we are going to win one. It's all I can think about, Pat, really. They've never won one in Cincinnati. So we want to be the guys to do it. And Joey B, man, I mean, he's the guy to do it. And it's fun coming to work every day with him. I've been very spoiled with quarterback play in my career. I've had Brady, Fitz, and Joey B. How was Brady? A robot human? No.

Brady was awesome. Dude, he sold that chocolate. Remember that video we saw? Oh, yeah. He was selling his chocolate. It was like, I am not from planet Earth. And then, like, the TB12 stuff, it's like, that is not what a real human – real human can't just eat avocado ice cream every single day.

Then you see him play football for however long he played football and how great he was. It's easy to think, like, that is a robot, that is an alien, that is not a human. But, like, Vinatieri, the story I hear, and then the people that are, like, boys with him are like, hey, he's actually a great dude to hang out with too. I assume he took care of the offensive line. What was your interactions with him?

Unbelievable. Always great to my family. too, I assume. He took care of the offensive line. What was your interactions with him? Unbelievable. Always great to my family. Knew our names. Knew everyone. And he did give me like a five-second cameo in 80 for Brady. Oh! Hell yeah. Not acting.

It was a rookie year on the sideline. I'm screaming, let's fucking go on the sideline. Oh, you're swearing? It seems like every time you get on, something's saying, you're a big fan of me. We love the way you operate. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Ted, I mean, I don't want to nitpick here, but you just said you played in front of some great quarterbacks

and you didn't throw in Mac Jones. So you hate Mac Jones? Is that what you were just saying? No, not at all. What is that? Don't start that. Hey, hey, hey. I love Mac Jones.

I put down three top-tier quarterbacks. And, you know, Fitz, I think, is one of the all-time greatest teammates, greatest people I've ever been around. So that's why I threw him in there with Brady and Joey B. Joey B, every day you said he's just a cool guy, killer, everything like that. Is he the first one in, like, all the cliche shit, or is he kind of operating his own kind of way? Him and Tom very similar or no?

Joey B's his own guy. I think it's weird because Tom was in his 40s and Joey's 26, so it's a little bit more relatable. But, you know, no, he's not a cliche. He's running his own show, and he runs our show too, and it's a lot of fun. And him and Zach have created a great culture, especially on offense. His look at these. Unbelievable hair.

He always looks cool. Always perfect. Yeah, he's got that curl. Yeah. So cool. Perfectly sitting there on the forehead. So cool. And he's an Ohio fuck.

Yeah. And it seems like a perfect match. It honestly does. Sucks for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Tony, you got a question for Ted? They'll be fine. They've always been fine. Yeah, I do have a question.

It hasn't always been a joke, bro. So what'd you guys have? Four, I believe. first-year starters. Not first-year starters, but first-year starters with Cincinnati last year. Like how long does that take for, even though you guys have been in the league for that, now you have another new starter potentially at left tackle this year. How long does that take for everyone to gel together? I think O-line more than other positions,

just because O-line is a repetition and continuity position, and you've got to learn body and spatial awareness with the guy around you. But, you know, I'm psyched about Orlando coming in. We've got a guy, we've got a giant coming in at left tackle. Hey, he's a dog, dude. He is. And a winner as well, just coming fresh off a Super Bowl. So to my chagrin, to our chagrin, I didn't want the Chiefs to win.

Did you not? I did not. I did not. I didn't want the Chiefs to win. Did you not? I did not. I did not. Why would you want the Chiefs to win? Well, then it's at least like our side is the – No, no, no. I'm saying, yeah, just in general. I wanted to be the winners.

I wasn't – Oh, okay. Yeah, just in general. You're mad at whoever. Yeah. I was rooting for the Chiefs. Joe Tooney was my four-year roommate in New England. Hell yeah, Joe.

What a dog he is. Tom Lee's a beast. Whenever you think about Cincinnati in the offseason and everything like that, what do you guys think you need to work on to get to the next stage? Because obviously you've got Josh Allen. Hey, he's a fucking guy. We just talked about Patrick Mahomes. Odell Beckham Jr. just joined the Baltimore Ravens over there in the AFC North.

A-Rod. Aaron Rodgers is potentially coming to the AFC with the Jets. What do you think it is? And you said you think about it every day. Is it an obsession over there, I assume, because you guys are so close? You're in there. Every time you talk about it, it's like, oh, the Bengals could win a Super Bowl. Yes.

And that hasn't been the case for a long time. So what is the thought every day in there? Thought every day, especially from an O-line perspective, I feel like the last two years, if we can finish a little bit better, we're in the big dance. So that is what I think about when I'm lifting in my gym. Oh, yeah. Hell, yeah. Getting big.

If we can finish a little bit better, we have an insane amount of talent all the way around, and we need to come through and work our hardest to be the guys. Your father's father was a football champion. Your father was a football champion. You're a football champion. So you guys just come out of the womb in a pass set? Have you always been just offensive line through and through?

And do you think you have the greatest form of all time? Is that why you are who you are? I think it's more of, yeah, I mean, I do believe that I was was born to do this i'm very grateful for the opportunities i've had though uh it's been it's been a road to get here um but it's been interior o-line or d-line alex karras is in the hall of fame at interior d-line oh yeah beast iowa legend 60s 60s had you guys are in the trenches. No one's ever moved outside the interior three. Maybe Lou in 47 was a tackle, but 47? Lou was a dog out there. Lou had good feet.

Big son of a bitch. Do you train with Jake Lazor in the offseason? Do you mix martial arts? I have a heavy bag in my gym. Oh yeah? You doing question mark kicks on it? I'm not a big kicker, but I'm working hand speed. Were you a wrestler?

I was not. I was at the gain weight, Pat. I went to one wrestling practice. I was like, holy shit. I got to gain weight. I can't do this. Oh, because you had to... My dad took me aside in eighth grade and was like, you're kind of skinny, but you're super slow, Ted. And you need to put on weight. I actually gained 100 pounds in one year.

Damn. I drank a gallon of milk before school every day for a whole year. What? It's verified. You can verify it. Every day. Every single day. Is that good for you?

No, it's horrible. My body rejects milk. Freshman to sophomore year of high school. Did you grow as well? Yeah, I grew like four inches and gained 100 pounds. That's unbelievable. Cuts the milk every single morning? Probably hit a puberty too.

You ever switch it up between white and chocolate? No, 2%. 2%? Give me the thick stuff. Maybe on a day I was feeling weak, skim. Still a gallon. AJ, go ahead, pal. Yeah, Ted, you mentioned now you feel like Cincinnati is where you feel like you always should have been

or you love it there. How early did you know that, and why do you feel that way? Well, not that I always should have been. I had great times in New England and Miami, too. But when Cincinnati called, I signed right away. It didn't take much convincing. My family lives in Indy. I didn't even realize the weight of having my family so far away in my career.

And then just the guys, the coaching staff, all the way to the top. The organization is fun to be there. I'm super excited. We start next Monday. And the guys are great. and it's a talented team. The town is super fun. It is a good town. It's an unbelievable town. It's like Indy, but a little bit more

aesthetic just because of the hills. Yeah, I got good views. A couple good views. Also, that casino down there, good time. No smoking in there, too. It makes it a little bit better for me. Not that I'm not a no-smoking guy, so you just don't smell like casino. Yeah, hey'm trying to have a good time why are you trying to put me to bed with all these thick air it's 2023 let's go ahead and get rid of that whole thing

whenever you go to cincy and you realize they don't have an indoor practice facility is that something that you think about going in there or is that a part of like your demands were you the reason why they put the put the bubble up over the practice facility out there by the highway? I think it was probably more Joe. But I did enjoy the bubble late season. That's a nice little bubble they put up, too. It is.

We're walking to practice. It's cool. No, we actually bussed a few times. We bussed. Whoa. City bus to practice gritty Cincinnati winter. Hell, yeah. Since he's all in.

Pac has a question for you, Ted. So you had a chance to be with Bill Belichick. Now you're with Zach Taylor, which is a very different of – Styles? Yeah, styles, age, different. Appearances. Everything. Personality.

Ways of living. Clothes. Yachting abilities right yeah naval history knowledge yeah there's a lot those two are vastly different um what did you get from bill from zach what's the difference between playing for bill and playing for uh zach tyler right now well i thought it was so cool playing up in new england just being like the most hardcore team we practice hardcore and then we go out and win. Hell yeah. And it was like, you know, gritty.

I remember like rookie year, my lip split because it was so cold and it just didn't shut until after the Super Bowl, just all playoffs, just bloody lipping. What? But I thought that was great. And then you win the Super Bowl and it was awesome. Like we won two and then Zach Taylor, it's such a different style of, but you still win games and you still are tough. But he's created a great culture there.

Obviously, it starts with the quarterback, but he's a great offensive mind. And this is the first time actually ever in my career that I've played for an offensive head coach, which is refreshing as a center. Yeah, give you some more ideas, a little bit of help maybe, a little bit of that kind of stuff. Just a little bias going our way this time.

Yeah, be nice. One practice, we get a favor. Was the narrative for you guys in the playoffs, were you guys actually genuinely pissed about that neutral site conversation and them selling tickets and all of that? And then you guys just walked into Buffalo and just kicked the shit out of them? Yes, we were upset about that. Obviously, with that whole situation, I was just glad DeMar was healthy.

That's scary, wasn't it? That was the most electric I've ever seen a stadium and then complete silence. And then there was like a weird noise came off, like an alarm, and no one said anything. One of our running backs looked at me. He was like, hey, what was that, man? I didn't say anything to him. He goes, dude, what was that?

I was like, I don't know, bro. I don't know bro i don't know what super eerie huh super eerie there it was like crazy that was serious complete silence 70 000 people silent what a great job by the first responders oh hell yeah hell yeah crushed i think trainer crushed it i mean i i don't know the status of him now but as far as the competitive standpoint, I think the more we were – we weren't worried about the Buffalo as much as we were about the division being decided by a coin flip. Okay. Yeah. Did not like that.

Did not like that. But honestly, yeah, I mean, if we were to let the Ravens beat us twice, I mean, that's what we'd get. But we didn't let it happen. Well, that was kind of what everybody that was against you guys getting upset about it was easily saying, you know. But I think in the locker room it is a little bit different. Like, hey, we've worked hard. This has been a long season for a coin flip to decide this

kind of, but those were that game just went back to that game. Prime time, dude. And then they came back on TV. We see like you guys had to see that before we did. I didn't even, I didn't really know. I thought he got knocked out. I was right there and, and, you know, said a quick prayer and then they shuffle everyone off. And I didn't realize it was such an emergency till I saw the, the out. I was right there and said a quick prayer, and then they shuffled everyone off,

and I didn't realize it was such an emergency until I saw the CPR going on. That's scary. It was unbelievable, really. That's some heavy stuff. You guys bounce back, obviously, beat the Ravens, do your thing. You guys are a football team that I think nobody wants to see, including the Pittsburgh Steelers. Turn to Dixie.

He has a question for you. T. Higgins was talking about you guys, a big ping pong locker room. The big boys get involved in that, or do you guys have your own games? Oh, yeah. I'm O-line champion. Oh, yeah, you are. We knew that, by the way. We knew that. I get involved. I would say, yeah, Mitch Wilcox,

Trent Taylor, Joey B. Where's the O-lineman rank in a ping pong player? Man, I don't think I've busted the top ten yet. That's bad luck for the offensive lineman yeah we got i gotta i gotta run it more you know they have their days are a little bit less stressful o-line's the most stressful football day i would say every day it's not it's not really i don't feel like ping pong on a wednesday 11 30 a.m

when people are really playing no that's what i what I'm saying. Yeah. Like, my position, I got time. Like, if that locker room had – Every day. If ping pong was the sport of locker room, I'm in there. I'm putting in hard hours. Hours I'm putting in work. Oh, yeah. And then you're waltzing out of that meeting miserable.

Fucking miserable. Tired, miserable. I don't know if you're a dipper or not. Normally, offensive linemen have a half a tit in there. Three months off, Pat. Three months off. Congratulations. Training camp's right around the corner.

I feel like I've just replaced it with all the different brands of fake tobacco now. Oh, Zinn? Yeah, Zinn. Oh, so you're off tobacco. I'm off Grizzly. I did Grizzly for 16 years. Okay. Hey, congrats.

That's not easy. Not easy. It was harder when you were 10. AJ, hey, congrats. That's not easy. That's not easy. That's not easy. That's not easy. AJ, that's not easy. I was wintergreen, and then once I got into the league, I switched to pouches. All right, well, congrats on stopping.

Yeah, green bear pouch. Yeah. Anyways, so you would come in with a whole tin of Grizzlies right out of that miserable meeting, and I would just hit a ball and be like, hey, you want to play some ping pong? Got like 20 minutes before your next thing. And you're like, yeah, I guess we'll do that.

I'd been warming up for two hours. You know what I mean? Right in the middle of your day. We can go, though. Yeah, exactly. You have to say that. Yeah, in front of the whole crew, have to. And then I'm just fucking, you're cooked.

Absolutely cooked. Spinning me. And then you've got to go to practice, and during practice, I'm still doing nothing. You're doing your thing. Hey, you're practicing much better than ping pong earlier. That gets a whole... You're right. Offensive linemen don't get as much time with the

locker room games. And when they do get to play them, never in a good state of mind. Always normally miserable throughout it all. So that's a tough judgment. I'm happy you're the guy though. Top 10. Not even beating him. That's a bad look for the whole offensive line group. Alex Kappa's gonna be pissed that I said that. He's a player. He's in there, but even beating him. It's a bad look for the whole offensive line group. Alex Kappa's going to be pissed that I said that.

He's a player. He's in there, but I beat him plenty. I like that. Sounds like you guys got a great locker room. I hope the world gets to experience it. How can we buy some of these hats and support the cause, the amazing things that you're doing? Thank you so much.

TheCincyHat.com and TheIndieHat.com. 100% of the proceeds go to the Village of Marichi. Hey, good hats. Let's go. Boy's got them on her to the Village of Marichi. Hey, good hats. Let's go. Boy's got them on her head right now. We got polos, too. We got a bunch of gear coming out,

a bunch of Season 2 Cincy stuff. So your company is called Cincy? It's called the Cincy Hat Project. It's not even a company. This is just all 100% charity. Yeah, good project. That polo is sick. Thank you, Donald Ross.

I'll plug them. Donald Ross and Imperial Hats. Hey, good people doing That poll is sick. Thank you, Donald Ross. I'll plug them. Donald Ross and Imperial Hats. Hey, good people doing this. Good gods. TheCincyHat.com, TheIndieHat.com. Help Ted help people out. You're an incredible football player, and I think you're a legendary human if I had to cast you. Hopefully you'll come on the show again.

Anytime, Pat. I'm in Indie all the time, so that'd be awesome. Hey, go coach those kids up. What are you going to say today? Hey, let's have good technique. Get off on a ball. I think I might show a little emotion. I'm in Indy all the time, so that'd be awesome. Hey, go coach those kids up. What are you going to say today? Hey, let's have good technique. Get off on a ball. I think I might show a little emotion. I'm fired up now.

Oh, the up yours. I was getting a little sleepy after lunch, but after being on stage here, I'm ready to go. You should do the up yours, you know? Yeah. Yeah, I should. Foxy, can we run that one more time? You said you were embarrassed by this. This is one of the greatest videos. I wasn't embarrassed.

I was embarrassed about being viral. Oh, okay. About all the attention. Yeah. Offensive lineman. Sure. But it's with a about all the attention. Yeah. With a C on the chest. Yeah.

Yeah. Yes. Fuck you. Yeah. Unreal. Right up your Tennessee. Fuck you. Whole state.

Fuck you. Whole state. So scared. We're going to Nashville, so I told my family they shouldn't come. Yeah. I like everything about that. The whole state of Tennessee. You made eye contact with somebody there, too. I did.

Yeah. I'll remember him to my dying day. Ladies and gentlemen, Ted Kerr. He's hosting the V Conference right here in Indianapolis in a few weeks where he has a fucking stadium, NFL stadium he's running now, in 45 speakers. Everybody that you have ever heard of that speaks will be at this V Conference and currently ailing from a hurt back in a pickup basketball game where a below average basketball player made Gary V his bitch.

Ladies and gentlemen, five-time New York Times bestseller, absolute icon living, Gary Vee. Gary, that guy bullied you, bro. He bullied you. Look at this shit. How you sit down? Look at this shit. How you sit down, Gary?

How old are you, Gary? I'm 47. I just wanted to be known. The only reason I'm on is because Pac-Man's on, and I wouldn't be hanging with you knuckleheads if the legend wasn't in the building. Understandable. Pac, do you know Gary? Yes, I know Gary.

What up, my boy? I had a chance to chat with Gary. My man. Doing Super Bowl time. Yeah, I know everybody, Pac. You always ask me that. You actually do. So does Gary Vee, I think, except for the guy that hurt his back this morning.

You said you're 47. I've seen video of you playing pickup basketball. You're still going very hard in pickup basketball games at the age of 47. Do you see that stopping anytime soon? Will this slow you down? Or is this only making you hungrier to get back out on that court, Gary? Pat, you know what it is? This new basketball era of like 140 to 137 where nobody plays defense is something that's unacceptable. So I go out there and I play 90s Knicks basketball. I'm trying to foul on every play. There's no ref.

We can't call it. Oh, here it is. This was huge. Killed that guy. That was clean, by the way. Dude. That was clean. Okay.

I just want you to know. Do you get punched in the face ever? I mean, do you get punched in the face in any of these pickup games? Because I've seen a couple of your fouls, okay? And I understand. I respect the way you view basketball. You're going to like this.

Okay. It's going to land with this crew because this is a sharp crew you've always had. Sharp. This is the best part of growing up in New Jersey. You know exactly who you can foul hard, and you know exactly who you can't. I've not been punched in the face because I'm too smart to foul the wrong dude in the wrong way. Got it. That's because we watch the clips and we worry.

Yeah. Because every pickup game that I've been in, I'm like, you see a guy do that? It's like immediate. On sight. It's always like an immediate thing, but I'm happy to go. There's always four to five people on the court that you know want no heat. They're soft. They're like California basketball players.

And so that's kind of where I'm at. I just assess the situation, Pat. Go ahead, AJ. Gary, what about this below average guy that fouled you? It sounds like he fouled the wrong guy. Didn't he know you're not the guy to foul? Yeah, and did you hurt yourself? The worst part is Sonny works for me.

He's like scared shitless right now walking around the building. Oh, Sonny! Sonny's worried. Sonny's worried, but he did the right thing. It was a clean block. I'm pissed about it. I really wish I didn't text Pat back and tell him the truth of the situation. I wish I made up a better story. Now

everybody who matters, because that's who listens to this show, knows that I got blocked by a whack-ass player. Sonny's below average. I mean, that is, we don't have a full scouting report on him, but those that know him well, his boss and such, say that he's a below average player out there on the hardwood.

I think what everybody will take from this is that you are still playing hard-nosed fucking pickup basketball at the age of 47. Is that normal? I don't think that's – is there anywhere you're stopping? Are you playing until you're 60, 70 years old? I'd like to. My brother keeps trying to get me to switch to golf. He's like, you shouldn't be playing this shit. anywhere you're stopping are you playing until you're 60 70 years old i'd like to my brother

keeps trying to get me to switch to golf he's like you're not you know you shouldn't be playing this shit but i just love it too much yeah just love the thrill of body sore for five i love i love i love the thrill of going like four for 29 from the field you know feeling like it was a good day that the jumper was on. Oh, that's amazing. Tone Diggs has a question for you. What about the fives, Gary? What about playing pickleball?

I mean, we saw you give motivational speeches. Do you actually play, too? Yeah, bro. I'm actually probably the thing I'm best at is racket sports. I'm solid in ping pong and tennis and pickleball, and I bought a team in that league. The fives. I'm happy with that. The fives. You know, I'm practicing. I'm using the pickleball team to prep for team in that league. I'm happy with that. The fives. I'm practicing.

I'm using the pickleball team to prep for owning the Jets. Smart. I've learned, actually repping UFC fighters has propped me most for the Jets. VaynerSports, we rep a lot of guys. The thing that's devastating, football's fun, baseball's fun. Refc fighters when steep we rep steep a when steep a got knocked out by francis that was like the worst day of my life when you like love someone and you really know them and they're like you know you you shank a punt pat and i rep you it's a bad play right like you know you know aj like misses a sack fine but when you get knocked the fuck out yeah that's and you love the guy it's the worst yeah you guys have been doing a lot of that representation stuff right i mean even uh nil

is that the next big business for you because remember we asked you a radio row and you speak about owning the fives to get to you got a teenager who's a dog oh my god on the fives that young kid who won viral he's a dog he's amazing he's a dog but oh dude oh yes yes he's great yeah you're gonna own the the Jets someday. And I asked you a radio row. I said, how are you going to get there? Right? Because this money now to get there is big.

You said you have a path. Is the agency going to be one of those paths you think? You think it's going to be a good business? Yeah, I think VaynerSports will be a big business. I think VaynerX, the marketing company, we're already a business that does $350 million a year in revenue, 2,000 people. It's a big-ass business. Be friends. I'm building my Pokemon, you know,

Sesame Street IP business. That will be built over the next 20 years. I'm patient. Accurate Aaron? Accurate Aaron. Did you like that? I like how you guys talked about the elbow that I drew, like a nut sack. I thought that was a great observation. What happened? Did you do that on purpose? Is that why you liked us bringing it out?

Because every artist has their own thing. You know where that came from? I'll tell you exactly. Popeye. Remember how Popeye was? That big fucking elbow he had and the chin. I think that's where that came from. Okay. Well, I'm happy that Accurate Aaron has it. So you, the VFriends,

VaynerX, VaynerSports, I assume you do real estate too or no? Not yet, but you know, we're on our path. You're awesome. Hell yeah. Bro, here's the best part. When Aaron's a jet, the Monday morning interviews that we're going to be doing together, I feel like I'm pretty much probably going to have to be a Monday morning regular because the emotion is going to be high. The receipts are going to be printing at scale i'm feeling very motivated for our fall together gary me too the videos of you after games okay like this right here either so mad or so pumped have been a great addition to

the nfl sports media just would like to let you know that. The fucking receipts thing? Oh my gosh. I mean, that game was over. That was a stunner. I hate Cleveland. The city, the team, the people. I hate Cleveland. Hell yeah. Yeah. Gary, what's the expectations

for you and the rest of the Jets fans with Aaron under center if he eventually gets there? Is it Super Bowl or bust? I think, you know, I'm praying to God that it's a two-year deal so it doesn't have to be Super Bowl or bust. You know, when you haven't made the playoffs for a longer period of time than any North American sports team, you know, it's hard to go from that directly to a Super Bowl championship. You know, I think for me personally, given how strong the team around it is, championship. You know, I think for me personally, given how strong the team around it is, you'd like to see them win a playoff game. Right. And so like, I would be fine with like a jab setting up a right hook where this year is a big progression. And then we go for the jugular

in year two, but we, you know, we've got to see where his mind's at, how it all sets up. But I think the way the jets are moving, I think they're looking at it as a two-year window. My hope is that it's a two-year contract and then you can kind of build. Yeah, we're sparring. We're all sparring. We're all sparring. And then you never know.

Bang! You never know when it's going to come. We're sparring. By the way, on that, great job at WrestleMania, brother. Honestly, there are literally fewer humans. There's a handful of humans on Earth that I'm happier for than you

the way your life is evolving the way your life is evolving it's a fucking blessing man i'm really happy for you gary we appreciate that you're one of the first interviews whenever we started the show yeah you were one of the first people and you said on the program you said i'm predicting i believe is what you said i'm predicting within the next 24 months, you'll be in WrestleMania and you'll do this whole thing. And then like every once in a while, we'll get it re-sent to us. And I'm like, he had that coffee. He didn't drink any of it, remember?

I'm not drinking. This is just a prop, you said. I'm not drinking any of this. But pretty much everything. I think the other thing I said in the show was that this was going to be a cultural phenomenon. And you guys have delivered again on one of my predictions. I appreciate that.

And I love seeing this thing evolve. I'm cheering for all of you, especially Pac-Man. And I hope everyone's well. Hell yeah. Pac-Man has a question for you. Actually, Pac-Man joined the team here recently. Has been a great, you know, hiring him with Sonny. Who knows if he's going to still be around after he hurts the guy, the boss's back.

Hiring is a difficult thing to do. We have a good energy in here you know what i mean we have a good so i like people always say like hey what you guys got you should bottle it you know and try to keep it forever i'm always scared to hire somebody and ruin it of course so when pac-man came into the thunderdome what a home run this fucking guy has been we're very lucky for it he has a question for you though g hey gary you said that y'all gonna take this slow are the jets fans willing to be okay for one year and then get it going no i don't know because the jets fans are kind of hard like they're like the philly fans they're that new york media i don't think i don't think aaron have time to wait for two years i

think if you go there to a playoff contender he have to he will produce they have to produce is what i'm saying but do you think that the fans of the jets would be okay with a subpar year not a subpar year pac-man you're observing again like i believe every jet fan the second aaron's locked and this is done is gonna expect them to win the superbowl on the flip side i've been waiting for this shit for 40-plus years. If you tell me we go 11-6 this year and win a playoff game and battle, like get a second-round AFC championship game, that's a build, especially if he's locked in for year two. The problem is, is he going to be?

The last time we took a Packer legend quarterback, it was a one and done year. And then he took the Vikings to the NFC championship game. And so, you know, like for me, if he's locked in for two years, then I look at it as a two-year window. But will most fans? No, most fans the day that that deal happens, they're going to run out and get their jersey,

whether Joe Willie allows them to wear number 12 or not, whatever number it's going to be, they're going to go run out and get their jersey whether whether joe willie allows them to wear number 12 or not whatever number it's going to be they're going to go run out and get it and they're going to think we're going to win the super bowl i've watched every play since 1982 i never believed we could be a 49 nothing in the super bowl with 13 seconds left and i won't believe it until the three zeros hit the board that's why and that's why your videos your post game video selfies are always so good because that game's already been over for a long time or been won for a long time. But until that thing's over, we go right to the Instagram,

and it's right here, and it is incredible. We hope that it happens for you, honestly. Thank you, brother. It feels like Greeny's the same way. Greeny's like a miserable Jets fan as well, and it feels like optimism is high. This is new territory, right? This is brand new territory?

I mean, it's been high before. When we got far, the Rex years were good. We went to back-to-back AFC championship games. You guys know? You know specifically, Pat. Yeah, yeah, played us, yeah. I remember. Rex Ryan, they hit a game-winner against us.

Good team. I was at that game. A wonderful game. Do you remember we called a timeout? You guys had like second down. There was like 50-some seconds left. And then we hit Braylon Edwards in the corner of the sideline. Yeah, so it turned it from like a 50-yard field goal to like a 20-some yard field goal.

Yeah, that timeout, a lot of people were like, why do we special? I would have traded that victory for the year before. The year before was the year before we lost the AFC Championship. Yeah, but we let you guys in. Remember, we lost on purpose. Who did they lose the AFC Championship? To us.

Yeah, we lost on purpose to you guys to let you guys in, remember? So I thought you should have been nice to us, kind to us, and then when we win, you know, it's not that big of a deal. You know what? I should really thank you now for the best day of my life. Beating the Patriots in New England in a playoff game, spitting on that stadium. When the Jets won that game, when they did all the flips

and went and played you guys, I spent the first 15 minutes of that game after it ended just spitting on the ground in foxborough just to let them know like i was just i've never yeah i was like just like it was the watching those entitled fans do you know how entitled patriot fans are no under 35 years old spitting on that stadium in the face of those 35-year-old Patriot fans. Gary, Gary, here's the guy right here. You were spitting in the corner. Yeah, thanks a lot, Gary.

I guess, you know, I won't be going to VCon now. But speaking of VCon, I liked how you mentioned how this year for the Jets might be like a jab, similar to your jab, jab, jab, right hook method. Right hook being VConn. Pat mentioned all the guys that you have going there to speak in, girls. John Taffer being the one I'm looking forward to most. How did you decide on who to bring in for VConn? You know, once Pat said no because of family stuff,

I had to start really thinking. But, like, whether it's Andrew Schultz. Great. Oh, yeah. Is he just going to be wide open up there? He's just doing a set? He's doing a set. Who the fuck?

That's going to be amazing. Yes. And then we have a lot of business people and just a lot of marketers, owners of teams. Dave Blitzer owns a piece of the Sixers and Devils. And then Damon John or deepak chopra like it was just people that i think could bring that eric thomas is gonna hype up everyone you know et hey he's gonna be there he spoke to our team he spoke to our team one time it was an incredible mind or guy raz like like jesse itzler's a beast he can kill the mic um

no i'm really excited about it it's it's just people that i think would bring value to whereas like Jesse Itzler is a beast. He can kill the mic. No, I'm really excited about it. It's just people that I think would bring value to, you know, what we did with the NFT was different. We made it about, yeah, you get the collectible, but you also get a ticket to three years of a super conference. And so there's so many entrepreneurs, so many operators, so many creators,

so many, you know, just good people in our community. And I just brought speakers that I thought could deliver the most value. Okay. So let me, um, let me ask a question as a stooge here, because this particular world, I do not know much about. We've obviously been offered by a lot of people to get into the NFT world whenever it became a big buzz. And then we did not hop in because I didn't fully understand it. It at the time of people explaining it, they're like, NFTs have always been around. You get tickets as emails and things like that. And it's like, OK, so we're calling those NFT now.

That would have to be what would carry the value of the NFTs if it got you access to other things. Do you think that's how you've seen it from the beginning? Like, hey, if you buy this, not only is it an art, but it also provides value down the road to get you access to things as opposed to some people that were just selling NFT as art. And they're like, yeah, this is $40,000. What does it get you? Oh, you just own it. It's like, I don't think I understand that. I'm a fifth grader here.

I don't fully understand a screenshot. But yeah, it's not a screenshot, as you know, because it's on the blockchain versus the Internet. People are going to start realizing what that all means. Of course. To your point, like I said, when at the height of it, I started making tons of videos saying 99% are going to zero because 99% of 86, 87 Fleer rookie cards are not worth anything. But Michael Jordan's worth 250,000, right? Like, like, there's collectibles, like a rare transformer that came out in 1985 can be on eBay right now for $5,000, but most toys are not that. So NFTs can be collectibles,

but it's going to be 1% Spider-Man number one, Superman number one, the first appearance of black Panther, Michael Jordan, rookie car, a Pat McAfee rookie card is worth dick shit. A Michael Jordan rookie card is worth a lot, right?

So it's like that. To your point, and you were heading down this way, the reason it's going to be a big technology is it's going to be utilities built on top of these contracts, but we're 30 seconds in. And the same reason all the stocks on the internet collapsed in the late 90s because the hype outpaced the reality, but then it took 20 years for the reality to catch up i think the same thing will happen here and on the collectible part look andy warhol and jackson pollock people that collected those paintings in the 60s and 70s made a fucking fortune but unfortunately that's only one percent of at one percent of one percent and so there'll be five to ten artists and projects

during this era that in 20 years people look look back and be like, shit, that was the right move. But the reason so much is down is because everyone speculated, gold rush, it got overhyped, and now the real building will happen over the next five years. Bored Ape is always going to be here. Bored Ape, your NFTs because they're going to get into these V conferences

that have a hundred speakers that are all at the top of the game. We appreciate you so much making time here with your injured back. What an IR you had here. Ladies and gentlemen, Gary Vee. You too, buddy. You too. So he was supposed to be on 245.

We blew right through that. He definitely had a 3 and a 315. Oh, yeah. But he entered a few things. I seen that, yeah. But I also didn't know if it was the back locking up. Oh, yeah. But he entered a few things while we were there. I've seen that, yeah. But I also didn't know if it was the back locking up. Oh, true.

You know what I mean? When he sat back and grabbed the thing, that could have been like a, ooh, you know what I mean, AJ? Yeah, I guess. If we had more time, I wanted to ask him, you know, like the collecting that super expensive art, that's like a tax shelter deal that the billionaires and super millionaires do.

I wonder if you can get the NFTs to do do that then maybe you're in business oh what are you saying i know from a very rudimentary level i'm not smart enough to understand completely how they do it but yeah owning those things it keeps you from paying taxes that's not gary's game okay gary is fucking going out on saturday mornings to random people's houses and garage sales and pay and like you mentioned picking up that transformer that's sitting there for, you know, 50 cents and then, boom, he's turning around and he's selling it on eBay for $10,000. Let's go to the 5RNG phone

line as we wrap up this glorious Tuesday. It's been a good Tuesday. Hell yeah. It's been a hell of a Tuesday. 1% of the 1%. Okay? Think about that. What utilities are tied to them? Do you know? What are you talking about? I don't. I think like.

Is that the concerts and the stuff that it come with, I guess? It's all on the blockchain. It's all on the blockchain. Not the internet. And people will start understanding what that means. Okay. I hope so. I've heard about it for a long time.

I understand their each. It's a blockchain. You get it. Their own thing. I've never been able to get it, but I'm sure I am just an idiot. But that is, that NFT run run where people had man you should have seen the shit we were getting offered to pitch and sell at that time because our show obviously was internet show yeah that was doing pretty well at the time in which nfts kind of

came into the world not saying they were created then but when it got like big push boy some of the shit i was reading i was like this seems fake yeah how are they doing you Boy, some of the shit I was reading, I was like, this seems fake. Yeah, how are they doing? You still have some of those cards. Remember when you opened up those cards live on air? Yeah, we're asking the NFT type deal. Zion dunking on the Sacramento Kings. We still got that one.

They're worth a billion dollars, I heard. That one's value, I think, has gone down a little bit. No. Yeah, you might be able to get a McDouble with that. That's about it. Pat, we don't need more of this, okay? We already have enough toxicity. All right.

Don't need you bringing attention to that type of stuff. That's the fraternity. Yeah, you're right. I just like to say real quick. Yeah, you're right. That's terrible. I'm sorry. That's out of touch.

It is. What was that all about? I'm not getting into it. You name it. Ham, lettuce, green tomatoes. None of this matters. There's an alien at Donald Trump's hearing. Yeah, full blown.

On video. Not even kidding. Multiple of them they're saying. There's a video in the group text. Today? Right now. Yep. While Teddy Karras was here.

There he is. Now, you got to watch the video. Yeah. What is that? Guy's breathing out of his ears. Be good for at least a woman, but not for fucking... His eyes are also very interesting. What is this?

There's an alien at Trump's trial or whatever. A couple of them. Look at the dome on that guy. All right. I don't need that in my life. What are we? Yeah, what is that? Calculating.

We had two sets of eyelids. One this way. Wait, what's his ear? What's going on in his, two sets of eyelids, one this way, one that way. Wait, what's his ear? What's going on in his ears? That's how he breathes. I hear you. I wonder who this dude is.

Alien 1, 2, 4, 5, 7. I mean, the internet's going to find out. This person's going to, you know. They say there are multiple people who look just like him. What are they doing? I don't know. Oh, this is the internet. I mean, why is the internet always doing this?

Will we ever get an answer from that very weird-looking fellow right here that is clearly being recorded by somebody? Yep. He's in the... He's just at it. And then he has a green tie, people are saying. All right, let's go to the phones. Let's go to the 5-Hour Energy phone lines.

Let's go to Alicia in California. Alicia, what's going on? How you doing, Pat and the boys? What's your name? Just make sure I have it pronounced right. Yeah, you pronounce it wrong. It's Elijah. You are good, though. Elijah. I mean, that would have been difficult for anybody to

type in here, especially Mitt. There's no way for Elijah. I already know how Mitt is. Yeah, Elijah, I apologize for that, obviously. Thank you for calling. What do you want to talk about? I just want to get y'all thoughts on, like, Trey Lance.

I know y'all wrote something and everything earlier, but, like, let's get to the stuff on the field, like, you feel me? Y'all think he's going to get an opportunity to play this season with Brock Purdy being injured at the beginning of the season? Do you want him to play, Elijah? Hell yeah, I'm a Niner fan, dog. Okay, so Niner fans would like to see Trey Lance, I assume, or if Brock Purdy can get back with how good they were with Brock Purdy.

Let's put Brock Purdy right back in there. I wouldn't necessarily say all Niner fans. I would say a portion because Trey Lance never got the opportunity to showcase what he got in a talent or anything like that. Agreed. I don't think we'll ever know. No. He hasn't played football since 2019.

Right. We only got to see him for two weeks. He's throwing dimes, though, with Patrick Mahomes. And if he's able to walk around with that hairline, I mean, he's a confident guy. Yes, he is. We know he's a very confident guy. Ain't that right, AJ?

Yeah, I guess we just don't know. We haven't seen him play enough yet, and it's been a long time since he's really been out there for extended periods. And we weren't roasting him. We were only saying the internet. This picture should have been taken in from people that are respectable humans. Hey, Trey Lance is working with Patrick Mahomes.

That's amazing. And Dante Moore, the quarterback, freshman, supposed to be maybe one of the best ball throwers in the history of throwing balls. Pac-Man seeing him only throw five incompletions in 25 games. In this entire thing. This picture is going viral. Put a hat on. That's what somebody should probably tell you. But maybe, Trace, I don't care.

I don't give a fuck. He just cares about ball. That's who I am. Ball. Everyone knows how good he looks with a ball cap on, too. He showed it in that video. So maybe he said, hey, now they gotta fucking, you know, get a little dial of truth and see how my hair really looks yeah take it in reverse widow speak pretty sweet hulk huggin yep brother or do the dial a shag dial shag yeah or the ronaldo is well he's saying that hulk's hair was fake those were extensions is he saying that but we can't dive back in this

yes we can't no yes no you didn that. I think it was his hair. He just bleached it. Just bleached it super blonde. Him and Dion had the same person do the hair. Who? Hulk and Dion. No, Hulk didn't have the Dion. Hulk should have got the Dion.

Could you imagine Hulk? Yeah. With the Urlacher Dion full helmet all the way down. Oh, my God. So sick. Oh, my God. Instead, we just got Scarlet Hulk with real hair. Right.

Real hair. Boom. Look at that. 1,000% real. Yes. Go back to that other picture you showed me earlier. That was younger Hulk. Yeah.

Well, go to old, go to now Hulk. Yeah. Because his hair looks the best now that it's ever looked. It does. Kind of has the cleanest sheer going down. You know, him and Brett Michaels both have kind of mastered the tying of the bandana to fit and be comfortable, perfect, to look super cool. They accessorize the bandana with the rest of the fit and then let the hair flow.

I just thought Brett never took it off. The bandana? Yeah. Well, sometimes you got to shake it off. The bandana? Yeah. Well, sometimes you got to shake it off. You're Bret Michaels. Ain't that right, AJ? You know him better than we do. You hang out with him.

Yeah, I would assume, yeah. He's got to shake it out sometimes. Have you ever seen him shaking it out? I don't believe so, no. I mean, I've seen him on stage jumping around going crazy, but. You've never seen him shake his hair out? There it is. I don't know if I have.

Boom. Hell yeah, brother. And that ain't Paul. That's from his trial. Those are bad times, hard times. He won, though. Congrats, Terry. That a baby, Terry.

Let's go to another phone call here on the 5 Energy phone line. Let's go to Jake. We did beat COVID, though. We brought that up a little bit. Huge. I thought we did a couple years ago, but is this official? We celebrated it seven times a year and a half ago. We did.

Now it seems like others are, so we might have jumped the gun a bit, but I am thankful that we finally got to the point where we have beat COVID. I did read some of the quote tweets from the initial tweets stating that it has now been no longer deemed an emergency. Some people aren't happy about this. A lot of marks out there. Some people aren't happy that it's no longer a national emergency. Thanks for nothing, Biden.

Some people are tweeting that. A lot of people are. I'm very confused by it. That's a bad thing? Shouldn't you be happy that they said it's over? They know something more than we do, though, right? What are we going to bitch about now? Tony, it ain't about that.

No, Tony, it's more so after three years, some people just want a reason to sit inside and bop their baloney all day. And guess what? Now you don't have a reason. I can give you a reason. It's Tuesday. Okay.

Boom. Move along. Yeah. Now go outside for a couple minutes without a mask. Breathe some air. I don't want to do it. Go back inside. Yeah, exactly.

Right back to the low-key part. Stand on your mirror tone. Stand on your mirror. Grab your nair. Experience a little burn and a bop. What? No, but honestly, these people that, like, the White House is representing the party, right, that has been the most safe, we'll say.

Right? Cautious. Cautious. Most vocal. Concerned. Yeah. The more concerned. So that particular says, hey, no longer.

And then you got people that are like, no, we know better than you do still. And we would just like to know what those people know that we don't know. Right? That's what we kind of. Exactly. That's all we want to kind of know. What do you know that now the White House is saying that. What do you know that the White House doesn't know?

Good question. Because that'd be kind to all of us. And we'd like to hear that. Yeah. And just to clarify one statement you said before, you don't. If you're going to nair and then bop, you should wear rubber gloves or something. Just because if you have nair still on your hands. Nair is a burner.

Yeah. It's kind of the folks. Good disclaimer. But you're right. If people want to stick inside and bop all the time, do what you got to do. A lot of homebodies out there. Yeah, exactly. And you mentioned some of the people who are more concerned.

Like there has been kind of a swords put down where you can have a conversation with someone wearing a mask and they don't judge you anymore, really. I'm being told that there is now a contingency of our viewers that are in the comment section calling one half of the hammer. Died. Cowboys. Tone Diggs. Tone Carlson. Oh. That right wing cowboy back at it again. That is as hard as a rock. of the Hammer, died. Cowboys, Tone Diggs, Tone Carlson. Oh! Right-wing cowboy.

That is as hard as a rock. Who's Carlson? Let's go to your favorite show. Let's go to James in Columbus, Ohio. James, what do you want to talk about? If that guy's right down the middle, then yeah, call me. Sue me! How are you guys doing?

Hey, keep it moving. Life is good, James. Thank you. Yeah, so I was listening here. I'm working my job and Gary V, I don't know what it does, but that dude drives me absolutely fucking crazy. What do you do for a living, James?

Whoa, whoa, what do you do for a living? I work at a normal 9-to-5 job at an IT job, just kind of working on computers, doing that type of stuff. Well, why don't you? Slang and NFTs, always talking about something where money can't be found, telling people that they need to quit their job, go yard sale to yard sale. And he's totally inherited all of his money. So I don't understand. Whoa!

Whoa! Whoa! Jeez. James had to get some shit off his chest. He did. I don't know. Hey, listen. There's no need to get personal.

Listen, when Gary Vee is in the paint of the internet, he's going to get dunked on every once in a while. Sure. That's the way it goes. It's part of the game. It is part of the game. I love that guy's passion, though. James is not up.

No, he's not. I was just sitting here listening I can't take it anymore I got a call First time caller He probably listens to the show all the time Gary Vee comes out and he's like Today's the day Where's my fucking phone

You done it Gary You draw a reaction no matter what you do. Yeah. Five time. Last phone call here. Do we want to go Montana, Chicago, Pennsylvania, Texas, or Colorado? Montana. Montana.

Hunter in Montana, what's going on? Hey, what's going on, boy? Hey, hanging out? What are you doing? Sharpening skates. I'm just at my job right now. What do you do? I grow weed.

Hey, great weed, Montana. I will say, I went to Montana this year for college game day, stopped by a dispensary. I found myself rather higher than normal places that I would stop at. I thought you guys did good with the weed over there. Thank you for your service to the Montana community with the medicine and the. Thank you for your service to the Montana community

with the medicine and the vitamins that you provide the world. What do you want to talk about, Hunter? Hey, I was just wondering what the fuck is going on with the 49ers, man? We keep getting so close, but somehow we always are one play, one player away from winning the Super Bowl, man. AJ, why don't you tell them what's up with the 49ers, pal? Or maybe it's just hard to win a Super Bowl. It is tough to win the Super Bowl, man. AJ, why don't you tell them what's up with the 49ers, pal? Or maybe it's just hard to win a Super Bowl. It is tough to win a Super Bowl,

but also when you're in prime position to do that and you have nine quarterbacks go down in one game, it tends to go against you a little bit. Yeah, that luck. That was the most unlucky quarter in the history of football. Let alone championship football or playoff football. Just football in general.

All the key positions. just like quarterback, ah, Mike Linebacker, ah, defensive end, ah, all because of freak things. It just happened all in one quarter. That's tough. And I guess that is what he's talking about. How come we always get – is there some sort of curse over there that we don't know of? Is there something going on?

I don't think so. I don't know if it's a curse, but they have just got bit by the bug, and it feels like they might not know. Oh, they got kicked out of their stadium. I was going to say, but now that COVID is officially no longer a national emergency, then maybe that has kind of leveled the playing field. Is Jerry Rice still the champion of tailgating? Yes.

Always has been. Okay, then there's not that then. There's no reason for you to force someone in here. Remember, Jerry had that big goat necklace. Trying to take his curses. I mean, with Shanahan. That could have been a curse. If he didn't have the Jerry Rice-A-Roni.

That's right. Jalapeno cheddar. So good. Was it actually a ghoul or a goblin that John Montana fucking put that football right through his head? You're talking about the person that tried to kidnap his granddaughter? Yeah. We don't know. You could take Shanahan

all the way back to Atlanta. Maybe if Jerry Rice didn't run routes before the game. Can't shut up. No one would get hurt. Can't have that. That could be it. Why not?

What is it? Can we show it? That could have been it. There's a lot of things, I guess, now that we kind of run through the Rolodex that San Francisco

could have some sort of curse, but I do believe it all ends with the announcement that we beat COVID. Bingo. You know, we lost a lot of good people out there. Shoot. Actually really came through, changed a lot of the world,

changed lives, changed the future, changed a lot of things forever. But as of yesterday, we beat it. So let's go a little congrats to all of us. Let's put our swords aside. Let's put our swords aside and let's just say congrats to everybody still here

because that thing was a real son of a bitch. It was. I don't want to be too sexist. Daughter of a bitch too. Son of a bitch, daughter of whatever. Real bitch. I don't want to do that. A real bitch COVID was.

And I mean that as like a tough thing, not a female dog. Obviously, because I have a female dog as a daughter. Valerie, she's my favorite dog of them all. I'm just talking metaphorically. It was a real tough bitch. It was. And we got through it. Congrats to all of us.

We should share this moment of happiness. Hell yeah. We did it. It doesn't matter what your political views are. It doesn't matter your socioeconomic status. It does not matter your color, views are. It doesn't matter your socioeconomic status. It does not matter your color, your religion. It does not matter anything. We beat COVID.

COVID tried to beat us. Officially beat it. Here we are on April 11th, 2023. We did it. There was a moment where none of us thought there was a chance we would be here. Remember, we weren't allowed to look at each other there for a bit. You had to put on goggles. Don't look at each other bare-eyed.

Because we don't know what this COVID son of a bitch does remember it was on cardboard there for a little bit that's right you get a delivery let it sit outside for eight to nine days gotta spray your groceries down we had apocalypse burgers because we weren't allowed to order food boom no toilet paper no food and also stay six feet away from each other well can i dap up my no don't even think about it this is actually how you do it they They'll get powerful people saying, you do the elbow shimmy, and then you shake it all about. You get no COVID,

and you look like a dipshit. That's what it's all about. That was happening. And look at us now. It's being announced. Christmas canceled. Two of them. Thanksgiving.

See ya. Canceled. Easter 2023. No. Sports. Canceled. Two of them. Thanksgiving. See ya. Canceled. A lot of people. Easter 2023. No. Sports. And here we are. We're back.

Hell yeah, we're back. We did it. We did it. Remember one of those college kids at Notre Dame tried killing the entire world? Yeah, on the same day there was some stuff going on in the city and the sports people get attacked and then the people that are changing the world don't get attacked.

There was certainly some hypocritical moments throughout this entire thing. You could say. But honestly, genuinely, we made it. Great news. Hell yeah. We did it. Officially.

National holiday. Good job, everybody. Good job, everybody. Good job, Pat. Good job, man. Good job, baby. Hey, way to go, Tom. Thank you, Patty.

Hey, way to go, Tom. Thank you, Pat. Atta baby, Potter. Foxy, atta baby. Zito, way to go, Ty. Atta baby, Connor. Foxy, atta baby. Zito, way to go, Zito. Oh, there, Frankie. Hey, you remember before Frank got married and we had to battle against COVID for three years?

Atta baby, Darnie, way to go, Darnie. Hi, Joe. Atta baby, Joe. Bruce. Hey, how about Bill beating the shit out of COVID? That a baby Bill. That a baby Mick. That a baby Mick.

That a baby Mick. Elijah. A.J. Hawk. A.J. Hawk. A.J. Hawk. That guy Bill COVID. That a baby A.J. And everybody watching at home, I hope you take a moment to recognize the moment that

we have in front of us right now. There were some tough days. There were some glim days there were some doom days and here we are all agreeing apparently except for some people that quote tweeted the initial thing that we beat that motherfucker we got him we did it here here congrats to us let's take a break for about 20 hours 25 minutes okay we got big show tomorrow huge it'll be a covet free show that's right always will be because that's the world Rest in peace. Let's take a break for about 20 hours, 25 minutes. Okay. We got a big show tomorrow. Huge. It'll be a COVID-free show.

That's right. Always will be. Because that's the world we're in right now. See, that's the thing. Everybody's going to say, oh, because it's no longer a national emergency. People are going to think COVID doesn't exist. We know COVID exists. We do.

And we know this bastard. Okay? Because we don't know who the father is. That's right. I mean, we've had a couple allegations. No, no, we don't. And that was certainly pretty large out there. But this bastard COVID, okay?

Throughout the first pitch of the Nationals game. Well, okay. Allegedly, allegedly, allegedly. This bastard COVID was a real asshole. And it's going to be with us for the rest of our time. But we'll beat this sorry fucking thing. Just like humans have done since the beginning remember when the spanish flu came in still around still doing its thing we figure out ways to beat it that's

what we're going to do going forward covid is an added character into all of our movies and it's an added character that we get to beat the fuck up if it happens into our life or into our family we know it's dangerous we know it still exists But this is the world we live in now. And shout out to us for fucking getting here. Beautiful day. Beautiful day. All right.

By the way, I didn't make that proclamation. That was the White House. White House. You got a problem, take it up there. Yeah, send them an email.

See you at AJ's birthday next year. January 6th is this man's birthday. That's right. Don't ever forget it. Look at that smile, ear to ear

The official announcement of COVID's death AJ, you're hilarious AJ, big show tomorrow, you know that? Can't wait, but also I heard Trudeau, Goopy has some Legislation going in, Trudeau's gonna Say the same thing tomorrow maybe We don't need any

Negativity right now, I don't live in that country Positive I don't think that that country. Positive. I don't think that's what's going on. The way you said it, it was not positive. Because I think we want masks or something. Just trending. Bring back masks with trending in Canada. The only reason I know that is because Gumpy took a screenshot of his Twitter in Canada

and said, Jesus Christ, boys. I was told. What do we got going on? So there's always going to be differing opinions, but let's just feel proud that we beat it, and let's move along. Hell yeah. We're back tomorrow. Pac-Man, great show.

Boys, great show. AJ, great show. Tomorrow's a big one, AJ. Great show. No, you too. You look super cool today. Great show. This pink thing's sweet.

Smell me? Smell me? Nice. Did you see he drove an electric vehicle from where? Worst decision ever. Buying it? AJ? AJ? He said don't do it oh my god i had to have joe push me fucking a mile down the street yeah and luckily joe's

fucking jack so he did it with one hand joe is jock dude he had his wait that that mustang's electric right there on the right uh no that's an actual car on the right that's an actual you know that's the one that i potentially actual car on the right. That's an actual Mustang on the right. You know, that's the one that I potentially drifted around the driveway because there's 660 ponies going to the rear wheel base. That one next to it is whatever they thought they could potentially make a Mustang. You can't. Don't do that. But also, any electric car from Cincy to Indianapolis is a roll of the dice.

Don't be doing it. That is a roll of the dice. Never again be doing it. That is a roll of the dice. Never again. Why'd they do that to the Mustang? I mean, why'd they do that? Has it been charging somewhere during the show? No. There's no chargers anywhere, AJ.

Except for in California. What is this? What is this thing doing, bro? We obviously have no Fordd dealer i didn't even know they had electric mustangs me neither you know why because the fucking mustang is like this is a big part of it here oh you got a scoop why do you have that oh because the engine is so fucking big these things are like dragsters bro the way they're built is to be race cars and then they put this minivan out here

and slap that thing on. Disgusting. What are we doing, bro? Until you can get, they need to have a 500 mile range, I think, on electric vehicles to kind of put them over the top. What you said.

They also need. I think the radio, the radio and all of that shit need to be on a different battery, bro. There's no reason you should be driving this. The car says, hey hey turn the radio off hey turn the air condition off what the fuck we're in 2023 you want me to turn the air off and ride in the heat i will say um they just need more stations yeah charging stations and also

portable ones i could jam in there and give me a quick 50 miles or something you know yeah but it takes forever to charge too when you find a charging station it takes forever because these batteries i don't know if you've heard anything about these batteries tough to get oh yeah tough to get a lot of power can't make more of those tough to get so like charging them takes forever too so i don't think it's feasible to really be the car of the now or the near future or Yeah, with how lack of mobility you can have with it personally. But I'm sure they'll figure it out, AJ. Yeah, you think they will? Yeah.

Yeah. California will in a couple years. In a couple years, it's all electric. They're saying Mars is coming in a couple years, too. Mars? Yeah, just got to heat up the planet. That's all. What?

Yeah. Elon, release something about this. What do you say? You got a bunch of CO2 and H2O that just is living in the planet that they need to activate, essentially. Oh, inside the planet. Yeah, it might be inside the planet. I think in the air as well, in the atmosphere. A lot of weird shit going on. We'll keep talking about sports.

We did beat COVID, though. We didn't say that. Sports world did not say that. No. Real world said that. We are just echoing a sentiment that made it into our timelines and made it into our timelines because it's a big deal speaking of a big deal tomorrow's show is going to be that be a friend tell a friend something nice uh throughout your nice tuesday here playing games tonight let's watch here we go pay attention let's enjoy the

shit out of it and then we'll see you right back here tomorrow 1202 eastern standard time for the pat mcafee show we're going to chef bo's goodbye