The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 886 - The Washington Commanders Are Allegedly Close To Being Sold, Chase Elliott, Ian Rapoport, Pacman Jones LIVE In The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: April 13, 2023

On today’s show, Pat, AJ Hawk, Pacman Jones, and the boys chat about the news that Woody Johnson allegedly got spooked by Aaron Rodgers’ 90% committed to retirement before he went into the darknes...s, where this leaves the Packers and the Jets in terms of trade, plus the breaking news that the Washington Commanders are allegedly very close to being sold. Joining the progrum ahead of his return this weekend at Martinsville is 2020 Cup Series Champion, driving the #9 car, one of NASCAR’s brightest young stars, Chase Elliott, to chat about coming back from his broken tibia, the state of NASCAR right now and if we’ll ever get another champion who is more dominant than everyone else, his thoughts on other drivers, and much more (20:20-52:05). Later, NFL Network Senior Insider, Ian Rapoport joins the show to chat about the Aaron Rodgers/Woody Johnson report and if there is any validity to it, what he knows about the Commanders sale, who is potentially interested in DeAndre Hopkins, and all the other NFL rumors circulating around as we approach the NFL Draft (1:09:59-1:40:50).  Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you on Monday, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello beautiful people. Welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome on this Nick's Gettin' Hitched. Thursday, April 13, 2023. The sports program starts now. He's in the air and I don't know if you can feel it at home, but it is palpable here. Hell yeah. In the Thunderdome because one of our own is no longer going to have a naked ass left ring finger. No, no. One of us that works in this Thunderdome has been with this company since the beginning and has been a friend of mine literally since high school. One of us is an Italian man that used to roam the streets of Pittsburgh
Starting point is 00:00:36 for generation after generation and generation. We thought there was a chance this man was untamable. Thought he was going to run wild. Thought he was going to be solo dolo forever. And then this Italian woman came into his life. And they found love. And what is love? Is it not this longing for togetherness? And is that not the reason why you say, I want to be with you forever?
Starting point is 00:01:06 That is real love and we're just a couple days away from celebrating it completely back in pittsburgh for nick congrats nick thank you pat thank you guys too kind you're too kind he did not want us to say any of that but nope who would i be right if i didn't utilize my platform to embarrass the fucking shit out of Nick. Sure. Because he doesn't like anything to be made about him, doesn't like any attention at all. This weekend, all eyes. That's right.
Starting point is 00:01:33 On the Marotas. On that guy. I think he's giving a speech. Ooh. Okay. I think he's giving a speech. I do believe, right? Aren't you giving one?
Starting point is 00:01:40 I've got some things to say, yeah. Okay. Nice. All eyes on Frank. He's going to look incredible okay nice all eyes on frank he's gonna look incredible i believe the hair is gonna be dynamic it's a big one hey nick we're proud of you pal thanks man all ours will be on the bride that's the goal this week agreed but yeah amen agreed completely but you will be right there you know what i mean two eyes two people that's what i kind of learned of all the wedding photos for my wedding it was was like, certainly all the photos are of Sam, but I'm in every single one of them.
Starting point is 00:02:08 It's like looking at her like, damn, goddamn, you look good. You look good. So remember that, you know. I will remember that. All eyes are on you at all times. I don't think I realized that because your eyes were on the bride, right? That's good advice. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Yeah, yeah. So just know that that's happening, you know, because you're in every single photo. It's a celebration of you too, pal. It's your wedding as well. Not that Carly isn't obviously the incredible piece of this entire thing. But the humans that are showing up at this wedding representing this particular Italian side. Oh, yeah. This is going to be awesome.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Nick, we're all going to be celebrating you, dude. Thank you for doing what you're doing. Because it's given us an opportunity to have a legendary weekend back in Pittsburgh. One thing I won't do, I'm not stopping at the casino. Why? No, I'm going to have to. Pay your dues, Pat. I was going to say, you're not stopping at the arena.
Starting point is 00:02:54 So this is what I do every time I go back to Pittsburgh, which used to be much more often than it is now. Obviously, married, wife, about to give birth to our first baby. So I don't get to give back. Business is out here. Family is out here. Life is first baby. So I don't get to get back. Business is out here. Family's out here. Life is out here. So I don't get to get back as much.
Starting point is 00:03:09 But every time I've gone back, I've stopped at the casino, Rivers Casino downtown, before going and meeting anybody anywhere. Sure. So drive across 70, the most boring drive of all time across Ohio. It's the same fucking photo for five hours. Just straight across, straight. It's literally just straight as an arrow, five hours. That's all you got to do. Get to Rivers, go in there. I have never won. Has to be over 90 times, probably a hundred times. I don't think that first walk in, whatever, I've ever won. Now
Starting point is 00:03:42 through weekends, you have up days and up nights at that casino, but inevitably, you're going to lose at that casino. And I think this time I'm going to be an adult. I got a baby on the way. I'm not just going in there and losing. I'm going back to Pittsburgh to celebrate love. I'm not going back to Gombo and go to the Southside
Starting point is 00:03:59 and golf with the boys on the entire golf course. I'm not doing that. I'm celebrating love this weekend. That's right. So I'm not even going to the casino. Look at you. Holy shit. Look at you.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Maybe once or twice. Friday, we do have a lot of time. So I think we got to stop by, I guess. Get breakfast. I can't wait to get back to Pittsburgh. These two men will be there. The toxic table at Boston. Connor at Ty Schmidt.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Connor's doing the wedding. Here we go. Okay. He's officiating the wedding. One half of the hammer. Dime. Cowboys. Tone Diggs has been doing cardio every single morning to look good in this particular tux
Starting point is 00:04:33 because he's it. Tone Diggs. Conor's doing the wedding. Bold move. What do you mean? By who? By Nick and Carl. A couple, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Yeah. What's that about, Tony? You know what that's about? I don't disagree there. It's a bold move by them, but I'm excited. Do you have this thing orchestrated? I wrote it a few weeks ago. I feel pretty good about it. Got some other eyes on it. Alright, so are you going to have a piece of paper
Starting point is 00:04:56 in front of you? I'm thinking I'm going to get a black book and I'm going to glue or staple words that I'm saying into it. Smart. That's like Jimmy Fallon's thank you notes. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Boom. Already written. They're in there. And he's just, yeah. Nice little reminder. That's brilliant, by the way. Whenever I've seen it, I'm like, this is smart. This is a very smart idea.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Big brains are over there. So incredibly innovative. You're doing that in the book, but you just told everybody, so it kind of ruins kayfabe. No, no, no, it's okay. No matter what, at some point I was going to say like, I obviously wasn't just reading this off the top of my head.
Starting point is 00:05:33 What if you did memorize the whole thing and just fucking had it? That'd be pretty sweet. You know what I mean? There's still time. I still could, but really I'm thinking about, and Ty kind of brought this to my attention, is maybe something goes wrong with the bottom half of my suit, and I'm up there in gym shorts and gym shoes. Yeah, because you're not packing anything else, I'd assume, because why would you?
Starting point is 00:05:52 That's not going to go well for you, Con, man. Yeah, listen, I was told where I can and where I can't wear a tank top already going in. I was already given some instructions. I don't know if you can be balls out at the wedding. I think the officiating job is in every photo. well oh my god right here oh yeah yeah i got a few of them i'm gonna make sure if i see the camera guy maybe just give a hey it's not about the pictures it's about the love remember that you're right you're right you're right i'm just trying to remember for after you know i will be in some of the photos also on stage today is a man
Starting point is 00:06:24 who will be with us at that wedding not in the wedding but they get us a gift for the wedding yeah a bunch of diamonds from tasia diamonds over there in the diamond district of new york shout out to pooch and edgardo edgardo looked real cool yeah yeah great and shout out to 14 year nfl corner pac-man job thank you for that gift yesterday That was very cool of you. Let's dive into it. He's officiating the wedding. How do you feel about it? You're going to be there. I feel really good. I talked to Connor. I didn't talk to him last night. I got me a little rest, but
Starting point is 00:06:53 the rest of the week I've talked to him about this. I think he's well prepared and I have my ordained license too. I told him the first thing. First thing first is don't fuck up the names. Don't fuck up the names. Don't fuck up the names. Which you won't do.
Starting point is 00:07:07 No chance. You're good. You know these people. Exactly. I'm not worried about the names. You're not just getting hired as an outside independent party. You're in the group. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:07:17 I know them both personally. I'm in the group. And really, when I look at the whole thing, it's only three minutes of talking that I'm not just looking down and reading what I'm supposed to say. What about a clap in there? A moment for applause? Yeah, a pause for applause. Pop pauses too? Like, oh, big pop here?
Starting point is 00:07:32 We'll see. We'll see. I'm not planning on the big pops. Any pops? Any pops? I'm hoping there's one or two, but I still don't know. That's the only toss-up in the whole entire thing. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Nick, are there any pops you think? Have you guys had any conversation about how many pop pauses he should be scripting into his officiating of the wedding thing? You know, I didn't really think about it. That's kind of up to comment. It depends on the delivery, I suppose. Exactly. It all depends on how I say it.
Starting point is 00:07:54 And one of them is the debate about Nick and Frank. You know, I still have to figure out what I'm going to do there. Let's not let all the cats out of the bag, Carmen. True, true. Sorry. I apologize. I apologize. I will say, in some
Starting point is 00:08:06 businesses where things are potentially scripted, if you choose to go off script, better be good. Yeah, I'd say. You know what I mean? Better be good. There's been some legendary moments in a lot of different businesses when you go off
Starting point is 00:08:22 script and somebody would go off script and then their career would take a complete change a trajectory north a rocket ship would be put on that particular person's back to the top and they'd have great success if you're going to improv yeah then there's also people that have done that it's been terrible in there right out of the building right out of the building tom bruneman well okay yeah you're that's a great way to yeah dig go off script but like there's only one wedding like you're gonna get fired anyways right you're not gonna be doing another one that's right i'm probably never gonna be ordaining
Starting point is 00:08:54 another way i think you should get pretty comfortable up there yeah i think you should take some liberties it's not my wedding obviously carly cares much more than nick does i would assume because like how my wife was they have dreams of what these weddings are going to be like. You know what I mean? I could get these signs there. Part of the thing is thinking that maybe Zito, instead of the black book, I just have Z kneel down in the middle of the aisle
Starting point is 00:09:15 with cards. I'll think right now about how much panic and alarm is going through the bride's side of the wedding. I see there's something next, too. Yeah, because he knows he has to.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Yeah, but we hung out a few weeks ago. I mean, the bride's mother actually did tell me like, hey, I don't care what you do up there. Just don't fuck this up for my daughter, OK?
Starting point is 00:09:35 Well, that's but how that is such a broad thing. That's like conduct detrimental to the team. Yeah, exactly. They put that in a contract and it's like, oh, this tweet is detrimental
Starting point is 00:09:43 to the team. It's like, how? It gave motivation. How? I was making fun of myself just because it was. You're fine this. That may or may not have happened to me a few times. Those tweets might still be on the internet and we're never going to get deleted ever
Starting point is 00:09:58 because they were completely wrong. But don't fuck this up is a pretty wide net. There's a lot of different ways to fuck something up. That's a lot of pressure on your shoulders, pal. We're pulling for you. Let's put on a good show up there. Appreciate that, guys. Let's celebrate love.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Right, Foxy? Yes, sir. Actually, in high school and college, I filmed a lot of weddings. So my advice to Connor would be to really make it about yourself because that's why everyone's there. You've got a quick 5, 10 minutes to crack some jokes, get everyone laughing, good vibes, and then, yeah, they're getting married, cool. But this is your moment, Con.
Starting point is 00:10:30 So good luck. And when you – because when we're sitting in there, we're trying to settle in too. If you just get right to the business, like some of us might miss it. You know, some of us might not know what's going on. Sure. We went to Ty's wedding. That was a show. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:43 That guy was a beast. Hey, that was a show. We were kind of in the back, so we got a chance to Ty's wedding. That was a show. Oh, yeah. That guy was a beast. Hey, that was a show. We were kind of in the back, so we got a chance to enjoy it more. I think people up front, not as comfortable giving reactions. Okay. But for us, that was a fucking awesome wedding in the place that it was. Where was it? It was George – no.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Yeah, George Washington. Trinity Church. Yeah, George Washington used to worship there. So we walked into this place. Ty's getting married up in New England in a town that's just stacked on top of each other. Speaking of, Watertown, four square miles, 40,000 residents. That was where the Boston bombing thing ended. That documentary, really, really awesome.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Wild. Really awesome on Netflix right now. It's a three-part series. So that was my first time in that area. We drove across a bridge going into this town. It was like, oh, I'm back in the 1300s right now. And then we go to that church, and then the performance was there. It was a smashing success.
Starting point is 00:11:35 The venue you're getting married at is like an incredible Pittsburgh venue. I mean, it's going to be like an incredible thing. Yeah, it should be pretty sick. It's an incredible architectural feat. Let's go. Are we standing near you? Yes. Okay, because there's different ways to do that.
Starting point is 00:11:53 I've been to things where they're sitting down. Me too. I've been where people are standing. So we're flanking you. Exactly. Wow. Yeah. Holy hell.
Starting point is 00:12:00 I'm jacked up about it. I'm three feet from you. Four feet? Yeah. Five feet? Uh-huh. Oh, man. Yeah, I'm looking straight and right. I don't need up about it. I'm three feet from you. Four feet? Yeah. Five feet? Uh-huh. Oh, man. Yeah, I'm looking straight and right.
Starting point is 00:12:07 You know, I don't need to look left at any point. To us? Yeah. I do not need to do that. All right, well, you're going to crush it. Hey, I appreciate that. Nick, we can't wait to celebrate you and Farley. Very exciting.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Thanks, boys. Pumped up. Can't wait for you guys all to experience the city and the love. Yeah, I'm pumped to go home. Also, let's think about the michael scott thing that we showed you before maybe you jumped the gun on introducing the bride and the you know new husband nick before they kiss so i i'm not an office fan i do i am a fan of it yeah sure i have never sat down and just watched it there's people that have watched every episode numerous times. I'm not that person. My wife is, though. Just saw
Starting point is 00:12:46 Michael Scott crush at a wedding earlier for the first time. Ladies and gentlemen! Let's not do that. Remember, this is a big day. Huge day. Very exciting. Don't listen to what Foxy said. Foxy's lying. No, I know that.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Foxy's got no idea. And I already know the points in it. For instance, when they kiss, I know, hey, look, mean? Foxy's got no idea. And I already know the points in it. For instance, when they kiss, I know, hey, look, I have a couple more lines, but I need to step away so they can get some good photos of just them two. Smart. Yeah, I have those points. So Bob Cavoglia from Bob and Tom did me and Sam's wedding? Yeah, and he crushed it. He was incredible.
Starting point is 00:13:21 And he was no quick five. He was to the script. He was doing. And he was no quick five. He was to the script. He was doing it. Yeah. And the way he worded it was very deep. And he had a sweet dress-up ball cap. Oh, yeah. Hey, we love you, Bob.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Love you, Bob. All right, let's dive into some news that has happened around the NFL. I mean, Nick getting married is pretty big news. Huge news. Oh, yeah, we're off tomorrow. Oh, that's right. Yeah, I delayed that until 16 minutes in. I didn't want to say it. I don't love it, but it has to happen. This is a holiday. Oh, yeah, we're off tomorrow. Oh, that's right. Yeah, I delayed that until 16 minutes in. I didn't want to say it.
Starting point is 00:13:45 I don't love it, but it has to happen. This is a holiday. Oh, yeah. What's happening with Nick is an absolute fucking holiday, and I am pumped about it. Yeah. Whatever you need from us, Nick, you know you got us for the next few days and for the rest of your life, pal.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Amen. Thank you, guys. You're too kind. All right, let's start. Charles Robinson of Yahoo Sport. Yeah. Okay, Charles Robinson, who is Yahoo Sport. Yeah, the face of it. guys you're too kind all right let's start uh charles robinson of yahoo sport yeah okay charles robinson who is yahoo sport yeah the face of it okay we know that because he's been on the program
Starting point is 00:14:11 numerous times friend of the program yes charles robinson is now reporting and he did this on wad and todd yeah yeah willie and tosh willie and tosh which is a sports show yeah it's a i don't know if it's green bay or if it's milwaukee but Tosh used to play tackle for the Packers, so it's a Packers radio show. Charles Robinson, who's an insider for Yahoo Sports and is Yahoo Sports, said on that one that basically there was already a deal made. It was already done. A 2023 second, 2024 guaranteed first, and they were willing to give something back in 2025,
Starting point is 00:14:42 and the Jets don't want it. Why? Because Aaron Rodgers said that he was potentially thinking about retiring, and that kind of scared Woody Johnson, and now they're trying to figure out what the future things are. So that's an interesting thing that Charles Robinson breaks that news because if Woody Johnson did not know that information, after spending, spending what an 11
Starting point is 00:15:05 hour trip in california at his house whenever i believe there was uh great vibes were said by all people so if woody doesn't know that after that meeting and then they still are in the middle of negotiating that's interesting that's an interesting little wrinkle i think in the entire conversation between aaron and woody and aaron in the meeting that he's had with the Jets and what Aaron has said to the Jets that Aaron would come on this show and say that he was 90 percent retired, 10 percent back whenever he went into the darkness. Then while in the darkness, we think not 100 percent sure while he was tripping balls like Queen's Gambit. That's right. He said, if I can find another motivation i'm gonna keep going i think he was just looking for it he was also thinking that he was going to maybe go back to the packers the packers basically told him before he went into the darkness take your time however much time you need then when he got out of the darkness yes a
Starting point is 00:15:57 hole in the ground in oregon that uh had very nice facilities yeah unbelievable but absolutely no light he said the tone had changed. They said, we're basically moving on to Jordan Love. We will figure out something to do with you. And boom, that was the chip on his shoulder
Starting point is 00:16:10 and he was back and running pretty much. That's kind of how I took the conversation. I don't know what that is. But if he was to come on the show and say that and didn't tell Woody that
Starting point is 00:16:19 or in any of these conversations whenever they were either at his house in California when they took the jet, Woody Johnson, bazillionaire, owner of a few companies one that yeah they certainly have no interest busy human i think we could probably assume and if he's not busy that means he's just completely retired and out of touch and doesn't do anything right so to take the time to fly and go meet with aaron talk to aaron have a full day together, get to know each
Starting point is 00:16:46 other. Might've went in the hole. Then we, uh, we know. Could've been. Could've put blackout curtains around the whole house. Yep. We don't, ayahuasca, maybe they sip some tea. Not saying Woody would do that.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Listen to Pink Floyd. We don't, who knows what they did. If he was learning that on our program and not from those conversations, I'd say that's an issue. Yeah. Right, Ty? I mean, I would say that would probably be a little bit of an issue yeah for sure and that was i mean like everything else aside that was kind of my biggest takeaway from reading this whole thing was like holy shit when he was on the show like you know everyone was like why are we
Starting point is 00:17:17 still talking about this guy like everyone was locked in pins and needles about what he was going to say and apparently like a lot of people legitimately had no idea what he was going to say. And apparently, like, a lot of people legitimately had no idea what he was going to say. Like, to think that the owner of the Jets was learning this shit the same time that we were is fascinating and wild. Certainly fascinating. If this is really what's going on right now. Now, Trey Wingo had the information about Woody Johnson flying to Aaron Rodgers before anybody else. So I assume he has pretty good connections over there.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Greenberg, right, one of the loudest. He's in two Hall of Fames. I assume he has some good ones. So if they knew that as well, I wonder what their feelings are on either why they didn't release it or if they have a little bit of worries about maybe this deal getting done whenever everybody was just leaning to believe that it was certainly getting done. What are your thoughts on it, Pac-Man? I don't know if I trust this resource.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Whoa! Pac. Chuck Robinson. I understand, but the resource is not adding up. You got Greeny. Greeny is the man. For the Jets. Fireman Ed, first of all. Fireman Ed.
Starting point is 00:18:25 When they're good. Yeah, he's been killed a couple times now, but when they're good, Fireman Ed. What about our other dude who got the Pokemon? Gary V. Gary V. Who got the Pokemon. Yeah. You know?
Starting point is 00:18:37 Yeah. Yep. So, like, how all of a sudden he get this valuable information? I don't know. We know a lot of good guys. Just listen. I agree. Listen. He did say VFriends is his Pokemon.
Starting point is 00:18:50 He did. I do like the fact that you remember that. Oh, this guy thinks he created the next Pokemon. Because his Pokemon, incredible business. Yeah. If VFriends becomes the next Pokemon, he's buying the Jets. He's going to buy the Jets. I love that.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Because as soon as he said that, that was my first thought too. Like, oh, okay, so that's how he's viewing viewpoints. That is a potential massive business for that fucking guy. You took it the same way, hysterical. You're right, though. A lot of us are confused on how. But Robinson's been an insider for a long time. He works at Yahoo Sports.
Starting point is 00:19:18 So that's like saying you worked at MySpace. Yahoo's been around a long time. He's been in the game a long time over there at Yahoo. Maybe Woody did find out when he was on here about the 90 because if if they went if they flew out to aaron's house and aaron opened the door he's like guys i appreciate you flying out here but you would have thought he would have let off with like hey i'm 90 retired so what were they doing there for the other 10 hours well that's what that's what we're kind of saying uh we got to pivot away from this i'm sure we'll dive back into it whenever aj hawk joins us in about 38 minutes because aj would know all of this he would he knows he knows
Starting point is 00:19:50 and remember he's withholding information you know what i mean oh yeah not lying when he's speaking what are you saying well that's already out there isn't it that means okay so he feels okay right saying this you're getting warm Because it's already out there. It's not him breaking news. He sits in a spot where he doesn't. So I'll be excited to hear what his thoughts are on the potential development that Woody Johnson did not know that Aaron was close or contemplating retirement
Starting point is 00:20:15 whenever he was going in that dark hole out there in Oregon. Fascinating stuff. Joining us now, and whenever I say fascinating, I only say that because the sport is so goddamn exhilarating. Hell yeah. When you're talking about way back in the day, moonshiners during the Prohibition era, they would have to outrun some fucking cops because they wanted to spread the happiness of booze around to different states in the South and other places.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Those cars being so souped up, so goddamn powerful would though then go on to become a racing series and these fucking cars will go 200 miles an hour they would go in circles they would go on road courses and hundreds of thousands of people would get incredibly intoxicated while watching and screaming their fucking lungs up ladies and gentlemen that sport of nascar has a great that has returned all right announcing on. Announcing on his Twitter this morning, a six-week hiatus is done from an accident while snowboarding. Ladies and gentlemen, the 2020 season champion, Chase Elliott. Yeah! How you doing, pal?
Starting point is 00:21:25 How's it going, guys? Hey, sweet mustache, bro. First things first. Is that how it normally looks? Is that what you normally are? Or do you have the 5 o'clock shadow with it kind of just looking super cool? Yeah. No, I like it to be just a little trashy.
Starting point is 00:21:38 So it's good. We're headed in. Might as well come in with a splash this weekend. So I'm ready. Okay. So you're back six weeks away. Is that how long it's been? Yeah, it's been six weeks.
Starting point is 00:21:50 So, yeah, the first four were pretty slow. The last couple have gone by a little quicker. I was curious. I've watched a lot of the stuff on this, the Aaron Rodgers topic. It's funny. I tuned in. You guys were talking about that. So crazy stuff going on.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Where's it going to land? Well, that's interesting, isn't it chase let's i mean we should be talking about your massive comeback for nascar which by the way race this weekend martinsville sunday 3 p.m eastern on fox sports one nine is back in the race we cannot wait to watch that uh do you feel like is there drivers rust or anything like that uh six weeks away Are you playing on simulators? What are you doing while you can't really work out because of the injury? What was the injury to? Yeah, well, I had a couple fractures in the top of my tibia,
Starting point is 00:22:34 so it was really more around my knee than it was, I guess, my lower leg. Hey, hold on. I'm not a doctor. Tibia is this one? Tibia is that one, yeah. Holy shit. That's a pretty powerful one, right? Like, shit. Oh, yeah. I I'm not a doctor. Tibby is this one? Tibby is that one, yeah. Holy shit. That's a pretty powerful one, right? Like, shit.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Oh, yeah. I see people on Saturday nights. They just bang them off of each other's legs. You know what I mean? UFC is just bang, bang, bang. That's powerful. It didn't look like those guys. You know, those guys, they hit a good kick, and I've seen them break it in half.
Starting point is 00:23:02 So, unfortunately, it wasn't like that. So, it could have been a lot worse. Okay. It had to be incredibly painful, though. What happened? kick and they i've seen them break it in half so unfortunately it wasn't like that so it was uh it could have been a lot worse okay had to be incredibly painful though what happened were we on a we on a pipe were we uh were we jumping were we just on some fresh pow what were we doing no i wish i would i told listen i've told this to my close friends and obviously i'll tell you guys too but i do not have a cool story for this I was not in the park I was not in the pipe it was just yeah it was just the perfect storm my knee decided that that was the ball game that day so damn it went down down for the count well sorry to hear
Starting point is 00:23:38 about that happy you're back are we going to take anything from this going forward because NASCAR obviously incredibly pumped that you're back the world of the sport is much better whenever you're in it are you are we never snowboarding again or what are we thinking about no I don't I don't think I'm going to hang it up forever that a baby okay happy to hear that yeah I think you gotta I think you gotta live it right so I just uh obviously I hate that it happened but i've been i've been doing that for a long time um been snowboarding a lot over the years so i you could you could trip and fall walking up the stairs and be out this weekend so i think you have to live your life and you gotta you gotta take a step out from from this world i mean it can consume you in a lot of different ways so and i think that would go for a lot of sports really. So I think you have to have that disconnect and, um, snowboarding,
Starting point is 00:24:29 certainly one of those for me. And I don't anticipate me skipping that, uh, because of all this it's unfortunate, but we'll, uh, we're on the back end now we can see the light at the end of the tunnel. So a lot of season left, which is good. Hell yeah. And we're pumped that you're back there. Um, how long you've been driving? Whole life? Pretty much my whole life. Yeah. I started racing go-karts and stuff when I was about eight. So yeah, it's, you know, much like anything and probably more so nowadays, as we've seen with other sports too, you know, kids start this stuff so young.
Starting point is 00:25:02 And if you don't, you can easily get behind. You just develop those skills, and you learn these little things here and there, probably when you don't even realize you're learning them at a young age. I've been driving for a long time. I've enjoyed it. It's been a fun road. Obviously, nowadays, it's pretty serious on the cup side, but I enjoy it and going to ride the wave as long
Starting point is 00:25:26 as as long as they'll have me were you just beating everybody whenever you're eight years old and through high school did you know that you were going to be a professional racer because i think this is like the standard thing right if and i'm in indianapolis so it's a little bit different with indycar but like very young people are racing we there's a couple go-kart tracks here where you can go and these carts are moving oh moving. Oh, yeah. These are like 35-mile-an-hour, I want to say, like 40-mile-an-hour karts while you're flying around. Other places have go-karts and bumper cars and things like that. Here, it's like you see families with their kids training. It's open track time almost, and I'm in there packed.
Starting point is 00:26:01 That is a small cockpit you guys are operating in and i'm getting like burn from the seat belt here and then there'll be some six-year-old or seven-year-old just bumping me out of the way like racing just absolutely crushing it have you been like that your whole life is your family in racing did your did your parents build the carts that you were driving because i think i've seen a couple of those documentaries as well. And did you know you were going to be a professional driver? Yeah, no, it's interesting. Especially being up around Indy.
Starting point is 00:26:33 I mean, yeah, certainly kids are racing go-karts at a really young age. And it was no different for... Hey, they're good, though. They're good, though. These little fuckers are good. Oh, yeah. I mean, they're a problem, dude. They're an actual problem out there. It's super impressive.
Starting point is 00:26:48 You see that across all forms of different types of racing. As you go across the United States, there's different parts of the country that have more dominant racing series in different areas. Most of the time, it really depends on where you grow up as to where and what path you choose to go race. Like, you know, dirt racing might be really, really big in a certain part of the United States. And then, you know, to your point right there in Indy, you have a little bit of both, right? You have the IndyCar world and they have some asphalt tracks that kids can go race on. And they also have a lot of dirt racing up around your area too.
Starting point is 00:27:26 So it just depends on where you're from. But for me, yeah, I'm from Georgia. My dad raced for a long time. So certainly been around it my whole life. And where I lived, there was a certain type of car and series that was popular. And typically that popularity brings the most competitive field, and you want to be challenged. You want to find that competitiveness in your region. So everybody's path is a little different, but, yeah,
Starting point is 00:27:54 mine fortunately worked out and is able to at least make a job out of it now. Make a job. You're coming back, and they're fucking celebrating it, pal. You did it. Yeah, you did it. You're a champion, bro. Hey, you're're fucking celebrating it, pal. You did it. Yeah, you did it. You're a champion, bro. Hey, you're a champion at the highest level. You did it.
Starting point is 00:28:09 I don't know. You snowboard. You're obviously naturally a race car driver, so you're, you know, a little bit somewhere in there, right? When the fights happen in NASCAR, the internet loves it. I think your fans probably love it. What is the stance from the league, I guess, on fighting? And what are your thoughts on it? And how much do you try to avoid that?
Starting point is 00:28:34 Because it's always, we love it, but it always looks bad for both parties. Both parties end up getting blamed for it immediately. So it's not a fun thing, I don't think, for you guys. But we love watching it happen. What is NASCAR's stance on it, and what are your thoughts about it? Yeah, look, it definitely is exciting, and I think people love it, and it gets people talking, which is a good thing. From a competitor's standpoint, I do think there is a – like, I get it.
Starting point is 00:29:01 You know, everybody wants us to fight and crash and all that stuff, especially people who don't follow racing or have much. We't want you to crash bro we don't want you to crash we wish that you were on a half pipe with us and did a fucking make twist yeah we want you to do great i'm with you but you know it definitely is it is one of those things where people people enjoy seeing it but from a competitor standpoint i do think there is a point that it becomes a distraction for you and your team to go perform well. And that's, that's just life, right? When you're not, when you're not thinking about what you need to be thinking about on the weekends, it's going to eventually have an impact on your performance. So you've got to draw that line
Starting point is 00:29:36 somewhere. Oh, you're saying the little things lead to big things. Ah, professional sports. Ah, you guys are athletes. Uh, listen, I've never been one to claim to be an athlete. I don't think I'm very athletic, but it's, you know. That's interesting. That's a whole other debate. Because you're competing. It does take dexterity. There is a skill that you can practice and become better.
Starting point is 00:29:56 It's a craft, but there's no real points to be scored. So it's, I was a punter, so I'm the bottom realm, you know what I mean, of professional athletes and things like that. I would say I'm right there with you. As a NASCAR driver, I'm right there with you. Okay. Hell yeah. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Do you play pickleball? I've never played pickleball. All right, punter would beat the fuck out of a NASCAR driver at pickleball. Not wrong. But snowboarding, I can't stand up, so that's athletic. Yeah. You know what I mean? I assume you're an athlete.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Athletes are probably able to drive better than the non-athletes that are driving, if I had to guess, just because of the competitive juices and things like that. Do you think that or no? Man, if you saw some of the field and watched them dribble a basketball, you would potentially change your mind. It's bad, huh? Some of them are bad. I would like to think I'm not the most least athletic in the
Starting point is 00:30:52 field, but I wouldn't say I'm the most either. But yeah, man. Yeah, but on the flip side of that, there's a lot of people that can dribble basketballs really well. But if they had to sit there for three hours three and a half hours however long these fucking races are
Starting point is 00:31:09 and then just one slight boom out and potentially uh in some deep shit you know yeah so there's a little bit of a difference uh conversation there depending upon how you judge an athlete so you guys don't piss in the suit anymore i heard there's like new science and how long is this Martinsville race? Are you worried about how long it is and how much weight do you lose? Yeah. You know, I've never, it's a really good question. I've actually been asked that a few times here lately and I, I need to weigh myself in the summer. Um, I would say my guess would be like five pounds or so. Uh, but I don't, I don't have a, a great number, but that's the biggest thing I feel like with racing is just the environment is super uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:31:55 It's very hot in the car and you're certainly there for a long time. You don't have a lot of outside air moving around. So that physically, I think that's the toughest part that probably doesn't get understood enough, I guess, from a physical aspect. Um, but yeah, you know, it's, it's one of those things that the more you do it and I think you hit the nail on the head, it is a craft, right. And it's, uh, it's a very unique craft at that. It's not one that you can go to the, the sporting good store and pick up a race car and go practice. So it makes it difficult. But to answer your question about Martinsville, yeah, it's 400 laps,
Starting point is 00:32:30 which typically the Martinsville races have been 500 in the past. So I'm glad. Oh, a little baseball strategy. There you go. Yeah. Let's take 100 off. Yeah. We're trying to cut down on that TV time.
Starting point is 00:32:41 As you all know, TV runs everything. So, yeah, I think it's going to be tough for sure. I'd be lying if I didn't think it was going to be tough. But I have been, you know, Chevrolet has a simulator we can get in there and kind of practice some of these things. How real is that? How real is that? If I get a simulator, will I be able to tell if I could fucking cut it or not
Starting point is 00:33:01 by hitting the apex of the turns? Hey, I drove a pace car before. Road course. Grand Prix. Right here in Indy. You know what I mean? Just the fact that you knew what an apex was is kind of impressive. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:33:13 You're already off to a good start. Thank you. And I don't get any marbles either. I'm on the line. You know what I mean? I'm a driver out there, but I think I'm too big. I think I'm too big. It's not real, though, because you can't feel –
Starting point is 00:33:26 because I guess there's something to people that can go above 180, people that can go below 180. I think there's like a cutoff. Some people can handle it. Some people can't. Is that real? You know, the speed, actually, I think you become super accustomed to the speed. It's like – I tell a lot of people, it's like going down the highway.
Starting point is 00:33:43 When you're going 80 and everybody's – Whoa, whoa,'re going 80 and everybody's 55 don't be a fucking asshole okay listen yeah yeah it depends on where you live right oh yeah right 70 70 on on the interstate if you're and then you know if the speed limit is 75 obviously you're going to do 5 85 to 80 yeah yeah so you know comfortably at 80 um yeah then that at that point, it's everyone's going the same speed and it's very much the same for us. I do feel like there is a sense of for a while there's probably a thrill in the speed. But then after you kind of get used to that, I don't think that that's much of a thought. And it's more just about the beating the next guy, the competition aspect of it. beating the next guy, the competition aspect of it.
Starting point is 00:34:27 It's not so much – I would say most any NASCAR driver would tell you or any race car driver in general would tell you that the speed is not – it's not a thrill anymore. I mean, it's not really exciting. I think you get – I watched his documentary on Mark LeClair. He was this guy that was just climbing like the peaks of the highest mountains in the world, and he was just doing it peaks of the highest mountains in the world. And he was just doing it with no strings on, on this ice pick.
Starting point is 00:34:51 And then also that other guy that had a documentary, he was the friend. Alex Honnold. Alex Honnold. I think I watched one of those. Which one? The Alex Honnold one? The climbing one? It was one of the ones that was on Netflix. I can't remember the name of the show.
Starting point is 00:35:03 That might have been it. They ended up, I assume he passed away. He was on a trip and never came home. The Alpinist is what that one's called. That one came after Free Solo who had Alec Connell. Alec Connell was interviewed in The Alpinist.
Starting point is 00:35:17 He won an Oscar for that. They won some sort of something for it. Watching those humans operate is like, oh, they have no fear. Do you feel like you're one of those types of people? No, I think it's very different. I don't think you're going to find me free climbing an icy canyon anytime soon. Oh, you're soft.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Okay, got it. Where are you? You're soft. Definitely soft. That's Honnold there. You have to be a little messed up, I think, to find that fun, right? I think they don't have the thing. to be you have to be a little messed up i think to find that fun right i mean well that's i think they have they don't have the thing yeah the fear fear complex or whatever your brain yeah so the
Starting point is 00:35:50 only way they can really feel anything is like before to be very close to fall it's like i feel like they have no feelings so it's like something in their brain is off a little bit that's why i wonder with you guys you're strapping yourself to rockets pretty much flying around like this far from each other with things that have happened in the past. I think it's an incredible, you know, admirable trait to be able to just say, fuck it and go do it. So I think you're a little fucked up too,
Starting point is 00:36:14 pal. I appreciate it. You're not the first person to tell me that. In a good way. In a good way. In a good way. That's a compliment, obviously. You heard the way I delivered it. If you were to write that out, though, people would say that would not be, and then that could potentially end up in a lawsuit. Right. You heard the way I delivered it. If you were to write that out, though, people would say that would not be. And then I could potentially end up in a lawsuit. You know, that's.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Right. Has happened before. That has happened before at this particular office. Pac-Man. 23, baby. Hey, that's right. That's right. You know the deal, Chase.
Starting point is 00:36:36 You know exactly the deal. Yep. Yes, I do. Pac-Man has a question for you. Chase, I heard you say earlier the speed is not really what you're looking at around the track. We're into speed, and we got a good car collection. When you're off on the track, what's your car collection look like? What you driving on a day-to-day basis?
Starting point is 00:36:54 And when you want to step up the speed off the track, what you driving? That's a great question, and this is not probably the norm. I think there are some guys that collect cars. I've just never been a car collector. I don't really have a collection of cars. The driving aspect and the racing has been my fix. That's been my speed fix forever. I've never really needed anything else.
Starting point is 00:37:17 So you're driving a minivan out there? Chase, you're driving a minivan out there? Yeah. If Chevrolet sold a nice minivan, I'd consider it. I think they do. I do. I believe Spice Adams had one. He was calling into our show for them.
Starting point is 00:37:29 I think they got the full- Full-length sunroof. Yeah, the whole thing. I think there's a couple. Yeah, it's- Listen, the Tahoe is the new minivan. Oh, you got any- Tahoe is the new minivan.
Starting point is 00:37:39 What are your family life? I should have looked into this. What's your family life? You're looking at it right now. We're working at it. Hey, how old are you? 27. Congrats out there, bro.
Starting point is 00:37:52 Live your life. Thank you, guys. I couldn't even imagine what it's like for you, too. Did you expect the reaction that you were coming back? I guess. We should have known this. We don't follow NASCAR as closely. I know a couple people over in that world.
Starting point is 00:38:06 We've had a couple cocktails with Kyle Busch a few different times, have turned on races, have watched races, have been interested, but don't follow the sport as closely as, like, other sports. Did you expect the reaction of your comeback to be as big? It feels like people are fucking pumped, Chase. You're a dog, dude. Yeah, people are probably more excited than I would be for me coming back, you know, on the outside looking in.
Starting point is 00:38:30 But, no, they've been great. And just being back at the shop the last couple days, and I've been removed from a lot of those activities. And just being around your peers and your teammates. And, you know, you go to, we go to battle every weekend for 38 weeks a year, right? It's, it's,
Starting point is 00:38:48 um, you know, it is a lot of time on the road and these guys become your family. So when you get back and you hear people say, man, we're excited to have you back, we're looking forward to, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:57 getting you back in the car. Like that stuff's really cool. And that's been, uh, that's been really nice. And the fans have been great and they've been super supportive too. And I hope, uh, I hope we can put on a good show and get back going this weekend and uh and have a good run it's gonna be it's gonna be tough but i'm looking forward to getting back on the road
Starting point is 00:39:13 is this racetrack your style of racetrack is this a good one it has been good to us in the past we uh we won there in in 2020 so that was a good that was a good run for us. We were okay there last season, and this is the first time that the series has gone there this year. So we'll see. It's going to be interesting. Let's go win. Come on, Chase.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Let's get a dub. And then when you're doing that burnout, you're going to feel so cool. Afterwards, how cool is that? You just feel like the coolest human alive whenever you're doing that in the middle of somebody's cool oh afterwards how cool is it you just feel like the coolest human alive whenever you're doing that in the middle of somebody's track like yeah clean up this rubber for the next year i'm gonna fucking go ahead and let i conquered this this track is that what that is the feeling of that yeah absolutely that is your time you you have earned you have earned your right to tear up the grass or the pavement or whatever as much as you want.
Starting point is 00:40:07 You earned that right. So, yeah, pretty much, you're right. And if it wasn't you, if somebody else won, they'd be proving it right in your face. That's right. That they deserve it. That's how it works. You're a drifter.
Starting point is 00:40:18 You're a good drifter. We give figure eights. What do we do? Straight circles? What are we doing? Not by trade, you know, but, yeah, I like to switch it up. I mean, you know, sometimes. Here's the nap-a-non.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Boom. Yeah, there it is. There she is. Beat the old 1-2 that day. That was good. It's always good when you beat your buddy, right? Oh, yeah. Anytime you beat your friend, he runs second.
Starting point is 00:40:38 We always like to remind each other of that. Yeah, and then. Yeah, as you should. Yeah, no, it totally depends. But I wouldn't say I'm a drifter by trade but i can make it work when i need to what do we drink afterwards obviously get five pounds worth of water back in you depending on the track you're drinking something that they have we haven't uh any any beers after work celebration are we whiskey fan well considering considering i'm
Starting point is 00:41:03 sitting here at a coca-cola shoot fixing to take pictures for coca-cola oh my god those cokes are so good cold coke so smooth yeah i better plug them but you know the coke then leads to uh extracurricular activity coke then at that point talking about Coca-Cola just because you know whenever they're dropping that into commercials best Coke ever I've heard so many people say that
Starting point is 00:41:34 in parties, in bathrooms in stalls right next to me I don't know if that's possible we've all heard it Coca-Cola is what he was talking about don't be assholes on the internet. Ty has a question for you, Chase. Chase, I think most casual NASCAR fans
Starting point is 00:41:50 or people who don't really watch at all, one of the issues is how much parody there is. There's been so few guys. I mean, you got, obviously, the Intimidator. I got him right here just to remind me every day. But you got guys like him and then Jimmy Johnson, Jeff Gordon, guys like that who then, you know, Jimmy Johnson, Jeff Gordon, guys like that who kind of transcended the sport.
Starting point is 00:42:08 But now it seems like, you know, while a lot of people know you guys, like someone new is winning almost every weekend. Do you think you guys are going to get to a point where someone kind of transcends the sport again and it's like very clearly obvious like, oh, this guy's head and shoulders better than everybody else? Yeah, that's a really good question. And I honestly think the answer to that is no. And I think that's because every time we have a new rule change and we have this new car come out that has tried to level the playing field, the more you level the playing field, the harder it's
Starting point is 00:42:42 going to be to be different. And the reason those guys were such icons is because they were different over the years. They were very good race car drivers and they also had very good equipment to drive. And those two things combined at the right time led to their dominance. And I think right now the cars are becoming so much the same that it's becoming very difficult for drivers to be different. The cars are becoming so much the same that it's becoming very difficult for drivers to be different. And the harder it is for us to be different, the harder it's going to be to pass up through the field and do all those things and really dominate. So, yes, I think there's going to be, you know, time periods where a guy might go on a hot streak and win two or three races in a month or in two months. two or three races in a month or in two months. Um, but those consecutive championships that we saw out of Jimmy and, and seven championships from Dale and Richard and those guys, I think that's going to be really hard to do. And especially in a, in a short period of time,
Starting point is 00:43:36 just because the more that the cars are so close, there's so many good drivers, um, that it's just, it's going to continue to, to be more and more challenging to do that. Great question though, but I think the answer is no. Okay. Ty brings up a great point. A lot of engineers, right? That's the big thing in IndyCar, like who has the best team, almost the engineers, the brains behind it that can kind of cook everything. And I think they're trying to gain just a little bit of an edge. You guys doing the same thing with NASCARs? I assume the engineers are very important to that whole process and what type of rules have they added that have made the cars like
Starting point is 00:44:09 so similar it's a limit on how many horsepower it's a build of the car what is those what are those types of things that you think affect at all if you any part on the car that you can see there's a rule that is uh surrounded it and and that's anything from how the engines are built to how the bodies look. Hey, because people were, hey, hold on though, because there were some real geniuses that were able to put together some engines differently than everybody else. Tim Allen out there in the garage putting together his hot rod. There's other people that do that.
Starting point is 00:44:39 They do it different ways and they find out little tricks and they steal some horsepower. That was like a weapon that teams used to have, right? And now it's kind of, they kind of get rid of all that? It totally was. And there were guys that really changed the game over the years in different areas, and engine building was certainly one of them. But, yeah, now there's just so many specs and rules
Starting point is 00:44:59 that all these parts and pieces have to abide by and be built by that it lands you in a in a very similar position car to car and also at the same time it makes what might have seemed like a very small advantage 10 or 15 years ago of the tiniest of advantages now shows a bigger difference on track than it used to because of the similarities so it's's just, it's just changed. And as time has gone on, I think everyone kind of knows what it, what they want to make their car go faster. Like what those magic knobs are to make it, make it quicker. Um, it's just a matter of finding a way to do that. And, uh, that process is becoming more and more. So what is it? What's the advantages then? It's
Starting point is 00:45:41 like strategy, wheelbase, pit stops, driving. What are the advantages? Because it seems like if everybody has the same weapon, so if every quarterback could throw the exact same ball, then how do you make the – because that's what the car is, right? They're all pretty much the exact same. What are the little advantages that – like good strategy, I guess, is the biggest part of it?
Starting point is 00:46:04 Yeah, strategy is a huge piece of it. It stops. That's the whole thing. Gas, that type of shit. Yeah. You do need you do need gas to make it to the end. Yeah. But when right. Don't some people roll the dice, go a little bit longer than other people and put them in different positions? Like, is that a part? That's how you gain the advantage, I guess. It is. It is. And certainly from a driving standpoint, you can still find advantages driving. And you just you're trying to push that limit just a little further than than the next guy. But, yes, strategy plays a huge role in the races and when to pit, when to put on tires, all those things.
Starting point is 00:46:36 And it changes throughout an event, too. But aerodynamic advantages over the years have become king. advantages over the years have become king. Aero is something that's talked about every weekend and how the bodies are built, how they're manufactured, finding advantages on the body of the car to manipulate the way the air flows is probably the biggest piece of the puzzle, I would say. Aerodynamics matter. That's why I used to shave my right leg, you know, from when I was punting. It was smoother. leg you know from when i was punting it was cut through the wind smoother yeah i actually i got that uh i got that big fan and put some color in it just like they do in those car commercials
Starting point is 00:47:12 and i just swung my leg a bunch of times left leg out of the wind right leg in the wind because that's the only one that matters and i found out that if i shave the outside three quarters. It's like putting on a Lambo hood. That's what I did. It worked for me. I guess aerodynamics work in everything, Chase. That certainly makes sense when you're talking about racing cars. Tongue Diggs has a question for you. Speaking of strategy, I feel like every race that I've seen
Starting point is 00:47:38 over the last couple years, two laps left, the person in first is getting passed by second and third because they're drafting with each other. here's um like two laps left the person in first is getting passed by second and third because they're drafting with each other like is that strategy there that like does anyone want to be in the lead with two laps left or is that like a position you want to be in or would you rather be chasing in second or third behind i mean depends on the track that you're racing at it sounds like you've been watching daytona or talladega talladega super time super track so if you're if you're leading those races there's there's two pieces two strategy sides to that one to be leading is is it obviously a good thing if
Starting point is 00:48:14 the race runs around to the checkered flag you probably don't want to be leading i do think the guy in second has a good advantage the problem with that is if someone wrecks between the start finish line of the last you know the start of the last lap and then by the time you get back around the race ends hey why don't you guys stop doing that wrecking hey i understand i i've been voting for that for a long time and it just doesn't seem to work how did like i don't know how you guys avoid some of those yeah's some like highlights There's some close calls Cars are going over As you're watching at home you're like holy shit
Starting point is 00:48:50 And then they show like a sky cam And it's like you literally just squeaked by With like an eighth of an inch And if not your car is potentially Going into a full What you sign up to do And what you all sign up to do Is actually bananas.
Starting point is 00:49:06 I mean, it is a real thing. Connor has a question for you, Chase, and then we'll let you go, obviously. Very important day. Nine's back, baby. Hell yeah. Nine's back with a cool mustache. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Chase, I assume you probably saw some of these shows on Netflix,
Starting point is 00:49:21 like Full Swing and Breaking Point obviously the Formula One show has there been a conversation amongst you and the peers like hey to get more eyes on this what if we did some sort of show and kind of follow each driver throughout the season? Yeah they we've kind of done a form of that but definitely would would love to see it on the Netflix level you know I think what what what drive to survive did for F1, um, really led to full swing. Right. And you think about it, that was such a hit that that was what led to them doing it with the golfing, uh, with the golf guys. But yeah, I think, uh, I think it would be a huge home run if they could, if they could sell that and pitch that to Netflix,
Starting point is 00:50:00 you know, and that's such a great platform. And, and I do think there's over there. Cool dudes. Where at now nascar oh uh i i mean some of them are okay okay but um i can't answer your question yeah i think it would be really good and and it would you know just tell the story more i think that's what it did for f1 right is there's such a story behind what goes on every week that you would have never known by just watching a race. Um, and they have some great characters too, right? You know, those personalities of those guys, uh, made that thing special. So I think it'd be cool if they can, if they can get it on that type of platform, I think it'd be a big deal. We'd love to watch your episode, pal. Sounds like you're an absolute
Starting point is 00:50:42 legend. Congrats on the quick recovery from something that sounds devastating. Congrats on coming back, and let's go get a win in Martinsville. Hey, how about this? You go ahead and win that thing. Should we do top three? Gotta win it. First race back. Gotta win it. First race back, though. Top three's a big deal, though.
Starting point is 00:50:59 It's not a big deal over there. Imagine if he comes in second and his friend wins, too. Alright, top two. That would be a bummer, for sure. He don't want to come in second and his friend wins, too. Yeah. Oh, man. That would be a bummer for sure. He don't want to come in second. We're not talking about stage one and stage two. We're talking about that. I don't like that rule change chase. We're talking about the whole fucking race.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Yeah. How do you feel? Is that on every race, the stage thing? Oh, yeah. We got stages every week. You want to win stage three. For me, points don't matter now. I'm so far out.
Starting point is 00:51:22 So the win is the only option for us. If you're not first, you're last. Hell, yeah. With that being said, you get first this weekend. We'll give $100,000 to a charity of your choice. The world is better that you're back in the NASCAR seat. We can't thank you enough for joining us today, brother. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:42 Thank you guys so much. Enjoyed it. Enjoy your show. joining us today brother yeah thank you guys so much enjoyed it enjoy your show and uh best of luck uh leading into the the upcoming football season and all the offseason shenanigans going on well loss you can say good luck with a lawsuit if you want or that ladies and gentlemen 2020 champion of nascar chase ell. Thank you. Yeah, Chase! Pretty cool dude. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:06 Yeah, the man. Great stash. Great stash. And he said he likes to keep it a little trashy. Yeah, with the shadow. I like that. From Georgia. His dad should have done the research.
Starting point is 00:52:15 It's on me. Bad hosting. His dad, NASCAR legend. Like 50 years racing or something. Really? 50 years of racing. I believe. Who?
Starting point is 00:52:22 Bill. Bill Elliott? Bill Elliott, yeah. I remember when Will used to fucking just spin that thing. Hell, yeah. Running with Bobby Labonte and the boys. Hell, yeah. Kevin Martin used to have the fucking, oh, there you go at it. I'll tell you what.
Starting point is 00:52:32 Every once in a while, I'll just pop on a race, and I'll start watching it. And you can turn it on at a part that's incredibly boring, where they're just, no matter what the race is. I've tried F1. Indy car, I think, is the same. All of them. NASCAR, same thing. Racingar same thing racing as a whole as a sport you turn it on and there's nothing going on it is tough okay you watch this four straight laps of nothing happening and they're just like oh he's going in for pit it's like i feel like
Starting point is 00:52:56 i'm watching practice right now like they're just taking some hot laps around there i don't want to sound like i don't want to sound like uh rude or anything but yeah but if you turn on and there's some fucking real racing going on and some action and you just so happen to get maybe a yellow or i mean there's some real a start maybe coming back out yeah i'm watching the super tracks fucking daytona talladega talladega he knew you said that you didn't like the way these stages are changing everything in second place you're probably gonna win not first place boy it's set up i mean start the race you finish the race. What are we fucking restarting six times for? Coach Diggs
Starting point is 00:53:28 loved. Oh, yeah. That was their tradition because, you know, they had me when they were younger, so they would go out and party on Saturday night, and then they would take naps on Sunday and sit me in front of the TV and watch fucking cars go around in circles. Well, nine's back. It's in your blood. Nine's back, baby. That is the thing about racing, too. Like, the best part of
Starting point is 00:53:44 it sometimes is when they're in the cities, like when they're doing those F1 in whatever track. IndyCar was in Nashville, I think. Yes, yeah, yeah, and they had the track on some streets, right? That's sweet looking. Yeah, that's unbelievable. That's a cool thing. Yeah, that's what they should do.
Starting point is 00:53:59 F1 does Miami, Vegas. NASCAR, I think, does Vegas, I think. I think they do Vegas. They have a track there, I think. Oh, okay. Yeah, I just can't do it. I'd love to. What's your problem?
Starting point is 00:54:09 Any kind of racing. Chase Elliott just gave us a great interview. Well, I was going to say, if he's in contention, I'll check it out. But outside of that. So he wants to send a text, hey, Chase is racing. Yeah. Yeah. You said Funny Car John Force was your...
Starting point is 00:54:22 No, I used to be the big whatever Smoke Stewart was, and then he blasted that kid and killed him, so I had to stop watching. That was tough. That depot get-up? Come on. Rest in peace. That is a very sad situation. Yeah, it's incredibly sad.
Starting point is 00:54:35 That's why I had to fucking retire from it. That was a sprint car race here in Indiana. Yeah, Smoke's an Indiana guy. Yes. I was more hurt that he didn't have one of the new Corvettes. Who? This guy? Chase. Yeah, minivan. Yeah one of the new Corvettes. Who? This guy? Chase.
Starting point is 00:54:45 Yeah, minivan. Right. Yeah, because those new Corvettes, that's what I drove as a pace car driver for Grand Prix here in Indianapolis. Whoever was supposed to do it backed out late. Are you kidding me? Lately. What?
Starting point is 00:54:57 I got like a Hail Mary call like, hey. Jesus Christ, McAfee, we need you. Legit. It was like that. It was like, is there any chance you can get to the track tomorrow at, like, 1 o'clock to pass this, like, certification that Chevy would have to give you to be the pace car driver for this Saturday's race? I'm like, yeah, I think I can figure that out.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Brand new Vette. This thing was nasty. I can drive a stick, obviously, so that helped out with the whole process there. But, yeah, so I had to pass a test. I had to impress them. I showed up in a tank top, obviously. They had no idea who I was. They did know who the person who was supposed to be doing it was.
Starting point is 00:55:34 That person backs out. They had no clue who I was, local person. So the Indianapolis Motor Speedway basically called me and asked me to do it. It was awesome. I was in there with Ari Leindeich, who I believe at the time had the fastest recorded lap at the Indy 500. The Indy 500 is like 100 and some years old or whatever. So he was sitting in passenger seat. And I was like learning racing because it was a street course. It was like 13 turns, I do believe.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Unreal. Yeah, it was like, you know, I was really, I was really good. It was a go-kart. Yeah. But I was with a fucking Corvette. It was a go-kart, but I was with a fucking Corvette. And I assume that I would not be able to win any of those races just because that kid's been racing since he's eight years old. He's been learning leverage and turns and setup and speed
Starting point is 00:56:13 and shifting his whole life or whatever. But I enjoy getting out there. I really do. You said we like speed. Well, that's why I bought that Shelby, 600-some horsepower. I was like, okay, I can go take this thing to a track, maybe drift it a little bit and do it all. That would be a fun profession, but also insane on the back.
Starting point is 00:56:29 I got a buddy named Cheddar who does. Shout out, Cheddar. Shout out to Cheddar. Cheddar Bob? Yeah, Cheddar Bob. He does drifting and four-wheeler, but he is the most unathletic human in the world. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:56:44 So you just said that that guy wasn't an athlete, sounding like you said, because that conversation happened in the middle of it. Sounding like that's why that was kind of sitting in your brain there. Yeah, but... Cheddar, you thought, as he was talking about, like, some of these guys can't dribble a basketball, and you thought to yourself, fucking Cheddar can't.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Yeah. Cheddar can barely walk. He can fucking drive a car from here to California. How about some of those stunt drivers? Like the way they can manipulate vehicles and shit like that? Now Jay Leno was in a car with one. And it just rolled over 14 times and he almost died. That was a professional driver.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Some of those people use these cars as a goddamn tool almost. That'd be a fun thing to be able to do. These NASCAR drivers are very talented. We're obviously big fans of Chase Elliott. Oh, yeah. That'd be a fun thing to be able to do. These NASCAR drivers are very talented. We're obviously big fans of Chase Elliott. Congratulations to Chase. Good boy, Chase. They are much more comparable, though, to the climbers you're saying versus basketball and football players.
Starting point is 00:57:35 Very much. Yeah, that's the trait that they have that not everybody else has. We have breaking news. The Washington Commanders are officially sold. It does appear. Dan Snyder has reached an agreement in principle to sell the Commanders for six Billy, Billy,
Starting point is 00:57:51 Billy, Billy, Billy, Billy to a group led by Philadelphia 76ers co-owner Josh Harris. Harris' group includes billionaire Mitchell Rails, I think of Pittsburgh, and former NBA star Magic Johnson, who was on the Today Show a couple weeks ago, saying, Dan, come on, please bless us with an opportunity.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Dan, bless them. Dan certainly did. And normally when Dan's being talked about on any show, everybody's saying Dan Snyder is a fucking rat. That's what everybody else is saying. You're not saying it. I'm not saying it.der is a fucking rat. That's what everybody else is saying. You're not saying it. I'm not saying it. I'm just saying normally.
Starting point is 00:58:27 So whenever he got a chance to see Magic Johnson on one of the biggest morning shows saying, Mr. Dan Snyder is a good man and hopefully he'll bless us. I wonder if that was a little bit of gamesmanship for Magic to kind of get this deal over the finish line. Because allegedly Bezos was going to be in. Bezos wasn't going to be in. Bezos was allowed to be in if he wanted to be in. And then Bezos was going to be in, Bezos wasn't going to be in, Bezos was allowed to be in if he wanted to be in, and then Bezos was officially out. We wondered if Dan Snyder, just out of spite,
Starting point is 00:58:50 was going to hold on to this thing because everybody kind of wants him to sell. Instead, Magic, Josh, and Mitchell Rails, I assume among others, are able to get into the Commanders game. $6 billion for the team. They're going to have to build a new stadium. Are they going to change the name? We don't know. But congrats to all parties including the commanders fans new money in the nfl is good for the league tone your initial thoughts no yeah you the last thing you just
Starting point is 00:59:14 said there was probably the people who are just most ecstatic is the the commanders fans because they have dealt with potentially one of the worst owners of all time for a long time there's been numerous conversations where we thought dan snyder was either going to be forced out of the NFL or he was going to sell the NFL to make his life less hectic. Remember, this man has been scrutinized by every single human that has ever had a microphone in front of him because of the way he operated and did his business. Just a couple weeks ago, there was an article written about how much money he is going to make from when he bought the Commanders to when he's going to sell
Starting point is 00:59:48 it, all the while being one of the worst business people of all time. He is never talked about in a positive light, so we thought there was a chance that if he was offered multiple billions of dollars, he'd say, you know what, I want to make my life easier. I don't want to deal with the bullshit anymore. I'll just ride around in my goddamn yacht,
Starting point is 01:00:04 park it in Napoleon's Island, and this will be my life now. That's just what I do. But there was also a thought that Dan Snyder doesn't do that. Dan Snyder loves being in the fucking fire. Dan Snyder stands in the paint and tries to foul people as they're going for dunks just so he can get dunked on yet again. That is what Dan Snyder does.
Starting point is 01:00:20 He's officially out of the NFL. Good news. And congrats, I guess, the snyders for getting six billion dollars for a team that if you read all the exposés was run relatively poorly and hasn't had success in a long time but the fan base is massive yeah and josh mitch and magic now immediately become baby face like for them they get to come in there's a report card that they can actually look at and be like okay this is what our players need. This is the stuff that they've been lacking over the last, I don't know how many years.
Starting point is 01:00:49 And they can basically change what we think about when we think Washington, which is the poop pipes and the bad football team and Dan Snyder being the worst owner in the NFL. Poop pipes were the ones that were bursting in the stadium multiple times throughout a season because the stadium hadn't been updated in so long. People were sitting there watching this abysmal commander's team that had numerous exposés written about it on a very, very, very public newspaper, and these people are still fans of the team. They're saying, damn it, you guys aren't making it easy for us to be fans of your brand.
Starting point is 01:01:18 They pay tickets. Hey, we're through thick and thin. They go watch a game. As they're watching their team get beat, a poop pipe right above them bursts and toilet water dumps on their head. Drenched in poop. That was happening at the stadium. Happened in a suite.
Starting point is 01:01:34 Couple different times. Yeah. I don't know, the banister falling, almost killing Jalen Hurts. That's right. You'll be at Power Move. What's that? These new owners come in. They just $6 billion for the team. They're going to build a new stadium. Power new owners come in they just six billion for the team they're gonna build a new stadium power move to come in and be like hey let's go get fucking lamar jackson right now why not make a splash build a franchise change it all what's your face gonna be around here
Starting point is 01:01:57 uh we got the most exciting quarterback on earth is this quarterback led league yep we got a guy who's just nobody else not a bad play pacMan, how do you feel about that thought? Not a bad play. I like that idea. New ownership, new everything. And Magic Johnson coming in, he won championships everywhere he don't. He loves star players. The Dodgers won championships.
Starting point is 01:02:17 The Lakers. Why? The women's – LA Sparks. Sparks. Why? Michigan State. LA FC.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Yeah. Why? Everything he's did has been big, even tjr fridays to burger king oh yeah magic got the answer to everything so um i'm excited to see um how the commanders do abundant new ownership and to expound upon that point and what tone was saying lamar here we go yeah this is business move his ass here it is this is business close to where he is you know what i mean hey i see what you guys did i respect it i earn it i think i would be a very welcomed addition to your city to your team i would love to help this next chapter this next era build not only on the fan base that you already have but a brand new one
Starting point is 01:03:06 that's coming if i come here i think it's good business i think it's good everything why don't we do that i'm the i could be right now the face is ron rivera no offense ron rivera yeah hasn't had success in a long time no but good guy we love ron rivera right there's no way you can have success in that building there's not a shot at ron rivera but he's the only thing you really think of whenever you think of the Commanders, it's like, you put somebody like Lamar on that team. Lamar's not the face. Their defense is good. And you have something to build around.
Starting point is 01:03:32 Yeah. Terry McLaurin's still there. Running back's still there. Ryan Robinson. But you bring in Lamar, that's a whole different team now. Yeah, it's all around Lamar. And the defense, you just, hey, fuck. The defense is good. Keep the defense doing what just, hey, fuck. The defense is good. Keep the defense doing what they're doing.
Starting point is 01:03:50 That would be a brilliant play, new money coming into the NFL. And also, that goes to our point about these guaranteed contracts with these new owners, like the Walton family, they have like $37 billion or something. I forget. I think it's $37 more than Tepper. They're the richest by a lot. $1 billion is so much money. It is so, so much money.
Starting point is 01:04:11 Just think about what $1 million is. And that's so much money. That's a ton of money. But to these billionaires, especially like 30 some, 40, 50, however many billions they have, like, okay, so this business that I just invested in, that I just bought for $6 billion, you're telling me if I put $200 million more into it,
Starting point is 01:04:30 I'll have, like, the key position kind of figured out? Yeah, locked down. Okay, I think I'm kind of pot committed at this point with $6 billion in there. Another $200 million? I think we can do that. I think that's going to continue to happen. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:43 As these uber-wealthy people get into the NFL and want the NFL or want to have success quickly in the NFL. Plus, isn't he part owner of the Sixers, correct? So he's used to guaranteed, fully guaranteed contracts. We are being told now, hold up, wait a minute. What? Ian Rappaport's saying that a deal is not done. That is not the question.
Starting point is 01:05:01 Oh, jeez. What? Come on. Ian. I don't know. That is the question. Oh, jeez. What? Come on. Ian. I don't know. That one said exclusive. We'll have Ian Rapport in 10 minutes. Okay.
Starting point is 01:05:13 We don't know if Ian has reported that. Zito's saying Ian has not confirmed it. Okay. There we go. Any of Ian's? Okay, so we don't know. We don't know what's real and what's not real. Ian has not reported it. He will be joining us in 10 minutes.
Starting point is 01:05:22 AJ Hawk will be on the other side. That's a big piece of information for Sportico just to put out there. Yeah, for sure. They might have found out first. They said exclusive. Yeah. Put that tweet back up, can we? Because maybe not. I was going to say, Sportico you'd think would have boots on the ground.
Starting point is 01:05:39 That's business, right? Yeah. Exclusive. Dan Snyder has reached an agreement in principle to sell the Commanders for $6 billion to a group led by Philadelphia. Harris' group includes Josh Harris, Regis, Sixpence. They even made a graphic. Well, there's no per, so they're reporting it themselves. Yes.
Starting point is 01:05:54 All right. So we'll have Ian Rappaport joining us on the other side. Why do you let business come in and just... Yeah, do one of those guys... Hey, Ian, what's the deal, pal? Do one of them own Sportico? Yeah, we could look into who's doing business with who over there at Sportico. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:06 Interesting. Magic's got his hand in everything. You never know. Yeah, Magic's probably running that Twitter account now. He might be. That looks like a Magic Johnson graphic. It does. It does.
Starting point is 01:06:17 Doesn't it? Word art. Holy shit, you're right. All right, Ian Rapport will join us in 10 minutes. AJ Hawk will join us in five. Then we have some conversations to be had about a lot of things. Houston. Houston's in a lot of convo's right now.
Starting point is 01:06:30 Crazy. And we have a source. Cis. It's not proper English. Our source. Cis. Have given us some information we're allowed to say about that whole thing. Now, our source.
Starting point is 01:06:45 Cis. Our name name Michael Lombardi. He's tied in. We would think, to say the least. Not able to be on the program today because he's traveling. He also pissed off a lot of Ohio State people, is what he said. But I think what he said was probably what he was hearing from other people. That's why whenever he says something, he's got
Starting point is 01:07:01 people in every building, pretty much. Mambo ain't just talking to talk. Yeah. Well, he does. Sometimes he does. He does speak as like a matter of fact. For sure. For sure.
Starting point is 01:07:10 But he does. He is connected and plugged in. Everywhere. With everyone everywhere. So whenever we text him like, hey, you know, people are saying that you said something like this. And then he gives actual answer. It's like, oh, that's interesting.
Starting point is 01:07:23 Yeah. Because he knows. He said that about Darius Slade being shopped. And then two days later, he gives actual answer. It's like, oh, that's interesting. Yeah. Because he knows. He said that about Darius Slade being shopped. And then two days later, he requested a trade. And then two days after that. Oh, would you look at that? He tweeted. I think like six of these at the end of them.
Starting point is 01:07:34 Oh, would you look at that? Casario's a New England guy. Always has been, which is part of the conversation. Ladies and gentlemen, he's a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Aaron Rodgers' best friend, the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers, and a man who knows everything about every situation going on with Aaron, the Packers, and the Jets, A.J. Hawk.
Starting point is 01:07:52 Yay! A.J., there's another news story that developed since we've been live, but we have to address this immediately upon your arrival in that sweet Steve Jobs shirt. Wow. Okay, you look amazing. You look cool. So cool. It's 85 degrees over here. Okay, you look amazing. You look cool. It's 85 degrees over here.
Starting point is 01:08:08 The fact you're wearing a turtleneck in the middle of that is just another mental toughness beat that none of us will ever truly be able to understand. While you're in an attic in Ohio, it has to be hot as fuck. AJ, Charles Robinson of Yahoo Sports reported this morning that the holdup is that whenever Woody Johnson heard that Aaron was 90% retired going into the darkness,
Starting point is 01:08:24 that he got a little bit worried about future picks or what guarantees are in the future. Now, Woody Johnson did travel out to California for an 11-hour trip with Aaron Rodgers. We asked. They did not do ayahuasca, allegedly. We don't know what all happened. Do you think that this could be true? And is this something that we should necessarily talk about, A.J. Hawk, a little bit? I mean, we talk about everything that has to do with Aaron Rodgers going to the Jets right now.
Starting point is 01:08:46 So I understand that part. But I doubt this had that much of an impact on Woody Johnson. I don't think it threw a wrench in the whole system and he had to sit there and rethink the whole process once he heard this. Okay, so A.J., just quickly, come on, what are we even doing here? So that is an answer in of itself that we need to take in for what it is because he knows the answer obviously clearly just trying to not give it away but not lie either yeah half truth withholding information all the time what does that mean though that means woody's where he's only gonna get him for one season is that what you're saying that's what i think charles robin which is a i think we've all been kind of talking about that potentially being
Starting point is 01:09:21 a worry so when charles robinson reports that that's a source news it's like okay so that is a real deal but also what he didn't know until he's on the program that would be wild that'd be a wild thing to think about as that that relationship kind of begins i don't know how that goes well and if it is true what he's reporting then the idea that they had already agreed on compensation and then when woody heard hey i'm 90 percent retired so why wasn't he traded then by that tuesday that he came on the program i don't know had already agreed on compensation. And then when Woody heard, hey, I'm 90% retired. So why wasn't he traded then by that Tuesday that he came on the program? I don't know. Interesting. Yeah, that's what doesn't really make sense.
Starting point is 01:09:51 Because then in this situation, I guess you can kind of see why the Packers would be like, nope, we already had a deal in place. Yeah, completely. Too bad. That's what we're doing. Joining us now is a man who might have more information because he's a senior insider for the NFL, both the NFL's league, the network, the website, and the streaming service, NFL Plus. He'll be on the same screen as Bobby Flay. He's been a food judge on Tailgate Takedown.
Starting point is 01:10:18 Shout out his son Jude for breaking that news. He's racing horses with Joey Molinaro. Ladies and gentlemen, the host of the weekly wrap-up with Rap Sheet and Friends, us being the friends, he being Rap Sheet, Ian Rappaport. Ian, sorry you're running on hold there for two minutes. We had to ask AJ that question. Is that report coming out of
Starting point is 01:10:35 Yahoo Sports this morning, Charles Robinson? What is happening with the Jets and the Packers? Why there's such a hold-up? Is that what you've heard as well? Can you do me a favor? Can you read me the wording of his? I was typing as I was waiting on you guys. What did Robinson say? And it's kind of shocking.
Starting point is 01:10:51 Robinson reports the parties had the parameters of a deal in place, but after Rodgers said he was 90% retired thing, Woody Johnson got scared to spend high draft capital on him. That would explain why the Packers don't want to take less. So that also might be future draft picks or this year's draft pick with 13 overall. Is that something that we already should have known? Is that something that Woody Johnson didn't know after an 11-hour meeting with Aaron Rodgers? Is he learning it at the same time as us?
Starting point is 01:11:17 Because that is wild. What are your thoughts on it all? And that does throw certainly a whole new conversation into the whole deal, I think, personally. Right. Okay, so I do not believe compensation has ever been agreed to or really close enough to where they say a deal is done. Okay. So that part, with all due respect to Charles Robinson, who I really like. We do too.
Starting point is 01:11:39 Friend of the program. Friend of the program. Good guy. I do not believe that part is accurate. I do believe the 90% retired thing has played a factor. Because if you're the Jets, let's talk about value, right? If you get Aaron Rodgers for one year, that's worth X. If you get Aaron Rodgers for two years, it's worth X times two, right?
Starting point is 01:12:00 So if Aaron Rodgers retires, theoretically, the price might be different in the eyes of the Jets than if he stays for two years or three years. So I think what they're looking for is a way to account for that. Like, we love Aaron Rodgers. He's worth so much. We're going to get him. If it's for one year, it's this. If it's for two years, it's this other price and so i do think the the discussion of is it a let's say a hard first round or a hard second rounder in 2024 um that's probably part of the discussion because you know might it have
Starting point is 01:12:36 to be conditional just to account for whatever this human being might decide to do conditional seems like a way to get around any potential flaws on not knowing exactly what the future holds, especially for a quarterback that's as old as Aaron. And you could see how maybe somebody would ask Aaron and say, hey, do we know if you're going to play two, three years? How do you feel right now? He has not been in their building. He has no idea what day-to-day looks like over there. He has no clue. So I'll be excited to hear how they get to the bottom of that. And also, sounds like they're going to get the deal done. Yep. All right.
Starting point is 01:13:06 Hey, that's good negotiating. You know, confident. I think eventually, I think they will, hopefully, maybe in a week and a half or something like that. Okay. Okay. That sounds like a man who's saying around the draft or so. Let's talk about another deal that's almost done, allegedly via your tweet, and Sportico. Allegedly, in principle, a deal has been made by Josh Harris, Mitchell Rails, and Magic Johnson, amongst others,
Starting point is 01:13:33 to purchase the Washington Commanders from Dan Snyder for $6 billion. Now, they have to build a brand new stadium. Jeff Bezos was potentially going to be in this. He was told he was allowed to be in this before it was even announced that it was going to be for sale. Dan Snyder learned that Jeff Bezos is not actually the editor of the Washington Post. He just happens to own the Washington Post. So Dan Snyder put his swords aside and said, I'll take billions of dollars from you, I guess. Allegedly, that's how it all went. So we didn't know if this was ever going to get sold. Magic Johnson was on TV a week ago saying saying if Dan Snyder blesses us, you're the man.
Starting point is 01:14:06 That's the first time anybody on TV has ever said something nice about Dan Snyder in recent history, I do believe. How did this come about, and what are your sources telling you about the deal and what this looks like for the Washington football team going forward? Okay, so what I know about this situation,
Starting point is 01:14:21 I do not believe a deal has been agreed to. The way this would work is Dan Snyder would tell the league, this is my choice. Review this bid for, you know, it's actually just under $6 billion. From my understanding, not quite six, just under there.
Starting point is 01:14:38 $5.95? $5.95? $5.99? Whenever you go to a store and it's like, this is $13.99. They say it's under $14. You can get this whole thing. Is it like one of those? Not quite.
Starting point is 01:14:52 A little less. But we'll see. But my understanding is the final number has not been agreed to, so that's why a deal is not done. That's what the deal is. So the report is not wrong-wrong.'s just seems to be premature because I do believe from what I know, from what sources are telling me that Josh Harris eventually will be the owner of the commanders. Assuming this deal is completed. I am told they are nearing a deal.
Starting point is 01:15:16 It would have to be approved by the league. Snyder would have to submit it and they would have to actually reach an agreement, which hasn't happened, but it seems he is going to be the guy when it all does happen. And obviously this is the Sixers and the Devils owner. Well, congrats to the NFL getting new money in there. Yeah. And I assume everybody's pumped that Dan Snyder's out here. We never thought he was going to leave, and here we are. New owner, new stadium, maybe new team name.
Starting point is 01:15:37 Go ahead, AJ. Ian, how quickly after this deal gets done do they break ground on a new stadium there? Quickly after this deal gets done, do they break ground on a new stadium there? I mean, that's going to be – so by the team, it has to be approved. I think it's – I'm not 1,000% sure, but it seems like the May meeting would be a good – I think there's going to be enough time between now and the May meeting to finalize this, which is in Minnesota, which in the spring is going to be lovely, which I'm sure I will be there for that to welcome in the new owner and maybe have a drink or two.
Starting point is 01:16:08 We'll see. Oh, you've got to start working. Oh, new friends. It's so magic. Is that what we're talking about? I love friends. I welcome all friends. If they happen to have information, that's awesome too,
Starting point is 01:16:22 but mostly just friends. The stadium is going to be picking um the stadium is going to be picking the stadium spot is going to be the first thing right because i know there's been a lot of push for a you know stadium in dc um that is obviously a political question as much as it is a find the land have the money to pay question obviously this is something that is going to be everything's a political question right that's a to be... Everything's a political question, right? That's a very condensed area. There's a lot of people sitting on top of each other over there.
Starting point is 01:16:48 So there's going to be a lot of politicians who have to be, what, anti-NFL too, right? There's some people that feel that way. And about the money and public funding, is that going to happen? Will the owners spend all the money? I mean, there's always a big time fight with that, right? Right. Or were they anti-NFL or were they just anti-Dan Snyder?
Starting point is 01:17:06 Like, I don't know. That's not the only place that this happens, though. Like everywhere. No, of course. There's new stadium problems. Like that is not like an easy feat, I don't think, to get it passed in there to do it anywhere. Especially in what? The most political area of all time. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:21 Of all the worlds. The most political area. Ever. Ever. That's going to be. Literally ever. That's not just like an easy task, right? That's going to be a difficult thing.
Starting point is 01:17:32 Don't you think? Yeah, I think it's going to be really difficult. But I also think that, you know, basically to get this done. To purchase the commanders, which I believe Josh Harris will do at some point eventually, for the price of just under 6B. Just under?
Starting point is 01:17:54 6B. Just under 6B. 595? This is like when people ask me my real height. It's like 5'8", 5'9". If this was the price is right, what would your bid be yeah there it is if bob barker said look at this come on down the washington commanders and you had to give the closest
Starting point is 01:18:17 but not over you know or hit it right on the thing so a bell goes off and everybody's so impressed maybe you win what would you What would you write down there? Because it would go, for me, I go, $6 billion. And everybody, okay, yeah! No, the $1 guy is the best. Yeah, that's at the end, though. $1 guy can't go anywhere near, but you only get one shot at the $1 thing. Because then if you do $1 too early, guess who's coming? $ dollar person oh my god you're dead you're dead there's no way that
Starting point is 01:18:49 washington commanders football team's worth one buck no you fucking idiot come on nobody's that so for you if you had to do that you would say five eight i will wait until the final numbers. Have some fun. You're in the right ballpark. All right. Thank you. Just under six. It's amazing, though. I will say this.
Starting point is 01:19:15 This is, and it's obviously not done yet, but you really do get the feeling, and probably since yesterday when Fertitta came out and was like, yeah, I'm not going to bid more. And I think his bid was 5-6 or something like that. This has been a long time coming. A long, long time coming. And I think for Commander's fans, this is the kind of thing where this is like a day they've been waiting for.
Starting point is 01:19:40 I mean, it's truly like, it's actually almost surreal. They'll change the name? They allowed to change the name? Does the league have to approve a name change? It's a private entity, right? I'm sure the league would be involved, but I don't know that they would have to approve. I have not heard that they're going to change the name.
Starting point is 01:19:56 I kind of like the, people not like the commander's name? Put your left hand up. Who are we? The commanders. Hell yeah. Put your left hand up. Who are we? The Commanders. Hell yeah. So, yes, they like it a lot. I don't know if everybody likes that song. From what I've been told, I like that song.
Starting point is 01:20:15 Love that song. I think it's a banger. Joe Gibbs. Wale likes it. Wale was not a part of it. He produced it. No, he was not a part of it. He does pay his respects to whoever made it.
Starting point is 01:20:24 Oh, goody. Yeah, he was not a part of it. He does pay his respects to whoever made it. Oh, goody. Yeah, there it is. But, like, I watched the Commanders play football here in Indianapolis, you know, this past season. No merch was being worn that said Commanders by any of the fans. There was probably 15 to 20. Really? The football team merch?
Starting point is 01:20:40 No, it wasn't Washington football team merch either. It was the other one. Oh, that other one. It was the What was the team name? Who are we? Not the commanders. Nope. Nope.
Starting point is 01:20:55 I'm not putting a dollar in the jar. It's like, you know how long it took me to stop saying San Diego Chargers? How about Oakland? Oakland's tough. St. Louis Rams. I was yesterday, I was trying to figure out where two days
Starting point is 01:21:12 ago, where C.J. Stroud was, and I was told he was in Oakland. Definitely took me a minute to be like, not Oakland. Actually, Las Vegas. Now, what we're talking about with the team name, vastly different than what you're talking about. We're just talking about cities. We're not talking about, you know.
Starting point is 01:21:26 Come on. Just absolute. What was it? What was it again? What was the name? I forget. Come on. I've just gone out.
Starting point is 01:21:33 Washington football team was the previous. Yeah, yeah, but it changed to that. Before that, though. Was it still Washington or was it different? Anyways, that team that is slipping all of our minds, that was the team that was being represented by every single fan that was in Lucas Oil Stadium. And they were very loud. So I'm not saying that they have to go back to a name that was –
Starting point is 01:21:55 what was it? What was the – I can't. Maybe I have it in my head. What's the rhyme with? Foreskins or something? Yeah, it rhymes with foreskins. That sounds right.
Starting point is 01:22:04 It does. I don't know. I don't know if that was the name. I don't know if that rhy Yeah, it rhymes with foreskins. That sounds right. It does. I don't know. I don't know if that was the name. I don't know if that rhymed. I don't know if you have to do that. Ted Flynn's is what it rhymes with. Oh, so you do know. No, I just do.
Starting point is 01:22:15 I hope you're happy, Ian. Okay, now you made me say it. Wow, you're a terrible fucking guy. Anyways, I don't know if you have to do that. Obviously, you can't do that. Won't do that. Society, the whole thing, can't do it you have to do that. Obviously, you can't do that. Won't do that. Society, the whole thing, can't do it. Won't do it. Why would you? You've already come this far and made the decision that
Starting point is 01:22:32 we've offended people. We don't want to be a part of it anymore. That's what the decision was made. They go to Washington football team. Then they go to the commander. I don't think people have necessarily all bought into the commanders. What I'm saying. All that merch just told me that they weren't necessarily pumped to be a Commander fan. But how many times can you change it and still be taken seriously?
Starting point is 01:22:50 I don't know. That's a decision that I guess the next owners will have to make. And hopefully they'll be able to do it right. And if they're the Commanders 15 years from now, just be normal. Exactly. And then you're kind of just off and running. Do you have to take it on the shins for a bit as people have to adjust to a brand new normal? Pac-Man has a question for you rap rap if they do it right you know um magic johnson and his
Starting point is 01:23:09 group of buddies are used to dealing dealing with guaranteed contracts um could this be the one group they like lamar oh here we go um i think it's a good fit i think the quarterback there is is an okay quarterback i'm'm not saying bad about him. Sam Howell. Sam Howell. Sam Howell. He's an okay quarterback, but Lamar is a top-tier guy. I think these guys are used to dealing with guaranteed contracts
Starting point is 01:23:35 because this would be the one team that say yes. Ooh, I love a splash. Man, that is a great question because obviously Josh Harris is the owner of the Sixers, and they deal with guaranteed contracts. Magic Johnson, obviously. Yeah, guaranteed contracts. Magic has also played basketball at a very high level.
Starting point is 01:23:53 Baseball, too. Baseball. No, it's the Dodgers. First of all, I need Lamar. I do not believe Lamar is in the conversation there. Duh! They don't even have a deal done. How the fuck do you know?
Starting point is 01:24:02 What are we even talking about? Yeah, you don't know. Well, but also, when he gets gets if this progresses as it should and he gets approved in let's say may or whenever the meeting is then i have a hard time imagining a deal for omar what happened then like maybe next year if this was still a thing but i don't believe omar jackson is in any way in the future for the commanders and the football people. I mean, Ron Rivera basically said at the owner's meeting, they view Sam Howell as their future starting quarterback. He needs to play like it, but that is what they view him as.
Starting point is 01:24:35 The other question is really interesting because, you know, obviously the bulk of the NFL, the bulk of the owners have been pretty outspoken, some of them about, you know, guaranteed contracts and that they do not think they are a good thing. the bulk of the NFL, the bulk of the owners have been pretty outspoken, some of them about guaranteed contracts and that they do not think they are a good thing. Is a new owner going to come in and ruffle a bunch of feathers and sign someone to a fully guaranteed contract?
Starting point is 01:24:56 I guess my answer would be, if he wants the player bad enough, that would be the answer to that. And if he wants to succeed, I mean, look at what Tepper's rolled through, what? Three offensive coordinators, two head coaches, five quarterbacks, a town, just a town, a bankruptcy with a town like these new money, I think, going to be very greedy, not greedy business people, but greedy for success. Make a big investment into something. I would like to see this do well, especially in a very public forum that is the nfl that's why the walton family like kind of doing what they did over there with the broncos
Starting point is 01:25:29 bringing in sean payton bringing back a former head coach for them vance joseph using the fund yeah using the like i think there is going to be maybe new money is always good for well and you bring up the panthers their coaching staff was also like very high-end money-wise. Yeah, and you can spend it. There's no salary cap on that. So that's an advantage. And I think new money, got to have big money to get into the league. Not that old owners don't have big money.
Starting point is 01:25:55 Okay? We get it. Yeah, it's different. Six billion, what is 200 million? Yeah, you're talking about for Lamar? Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. He's saying they're out, this guy.
Starting point is 01:26:06 Ian said, no, they don't want it. Ian, why don't you just, why don't you arbitrate a deal there for the guy? Kind of take care of him. Speaking of deal, this is an interesting thought Ty has for you. Yeah, Rapshid, I have a hard time believing that Jeff Bezos wasn't okay with $6 billion
Starting point is 01:26:20 and that he would be outbid. Is there some sort of conflict of interest with what everything he has going on at amazon like i think we all assumed that if he really wanted this bad enough like no one's going to be able to outbid him he can wipe his ass with six billion dollars like why did he eventually step away and is it the type of thing like is he ever going to be an owner you think or is he kind of just going to stick with what he's got going on at Amazon and kind of try to build that up in the next 10 years or so? Well, I think at Amazon he's kind of stepped away a little bit,
Starting point is 01:26:52 kind of like Bob Iger did at Disney. But, I mean, maybe he gets back involved there. I think that would be certainly interesting. Bob's back, though. Yeah, all the way. Bob's back. Right. Right.
Starting point is 01:27:02 And, you know, I wonder, like, now that we know for sure Bezos is not going to buy the Commanders, which maybe that same thing happens at Amazon. We'll see. But I never got the sense he was really in this at all. His name was in it, mostly from media. But, like, I never really got the feel that he was in it. Because, like you said, if he was in it, he would be like,
Starting point is 01:27:24 okay, you know know just under six like all right how about seven like he would have and i'm sure there is a point where at some point snyder back all right i'll just take all of your money because it's going to be more than everyone else the one that people sort of wonder about is at some point are the seahawks sold and is that the team that he ends up grabbing? I don't know that that's going to happen. A lot of big money up there in Seattle. They believe the Seahawks would be the team
Starting point is 01:27:52 at some point and then probably not that near future. Is that where he's from? I think so. I would have to look on the internet. I wonder why the Seahawks would be the reason why he would buy a team. I know he invested a ton of money into the Krakens hockey arena up there, so I do think he has some ties to the area. That's very nice.
Starting point is 01:28:13 We think we would notice. These guys might bring basketball back, too. Zito just said something to me. Born in New Mexico. New Mexico. Okay. So that's close. Got it.
Starting point is 01:28:22 So that was an interesting give and take there between me and Zito. Did you hear the new? He said New Mexico and then Mexico. I think he said New Mexico. Okay. So that's close. Got it. So that was an interesting give and take there between me and Zito. Did you hear the new? He said New Mexico and then Mexico. I think he said New Mexico. New Mexico twice. Didn't hear the third word of that sentence. So I didn't know if he was saying New Mexico or Old Mexico. Because if Jeff Bezos was from Old Mexico,
Starting point is 01:28:37 I thought that would be something that I would have known. So that was a whole thing that happened right there. Zito, thank you for the information. Update, he started Amazon in a garage in Washington and basically created the business plan on the drive from New York to Seattle. Okay. All right, so Seattle holds a special place in his heart. Why not buy the Seahawks?
Starting point is 01:28:56 Especially with the way that stadium's already built. You're getting dropped into something that is magical. And that practice facility right there on the water? Oh, it's beautiful. It's awesome. It is beautiful. Connor has a question for you. Yeah on the water? Oh, it's beautiful. It is beautiful. Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Ravshy, there's been some rumors circulating with the Jets because they missed out on OBJ that they might be in on D-Hop now
Starting point is 01:29:14 and take a run at him. Do you think that's true? And then also, is that another trade we're looking at like two weeks from now when it's around draft time? I have not heard the Jets with DeAndre Hopkins. now when it's around draft time? I have not heard the Jets with DeAndre Hopkins. I don't, so, you know, the Jets have, I mean, they signed two receivers in free agency. They might still draft one. They still have Corey Davis. Obviously Garrett Wilson is,
Starting point is 01:29:42 I think, going to be really, really good maybe. I think they're actually okay a receiver. I viewed Odell as more of like a cherry on the top of the thing, you know? Sure. So I don't think they're going to replace not getting Odell with something. I think he would have been like almost extra. As far as D-hop, you know, if a trade was going to happen, probably closer to the draft. I do think it's still possible. I know there's still teams interested.
Starting point is 01:30:02 I know those talks are going on. But, like like the draft is probably the time so i think you know as you get closer a week two weeks maybe it's like is a trade going to happen yes or no and either it will or it'll be like he's going to be here yes pat no i was pointing at aj's question we do it every time welcome to show fucking hey uh ian you mentioned seattle possibly being a destination for business to go after are there any other teams out there like if you had to make a guess of what the next team to sell in the nfl we know this doesn't happen very often who could it be i mean i would besides
Starting point is 01:30:37 seattle i don't have a good one um i you know i think at some point se Seattle, when Paul Allen unfortunately died, I think a lot of people thought that it was going to happen soon, and it's not. And now I don't get the sense that his sister wants to sell anytime soon. I just think eventually it'll probably happen, and that would probably be the team. But it seems to be probably in the not-that-near future, if I had to guess. Okay. Who knows? The more Bezoses that get created. But it seems to be probably in the not that near future, if I had to guess. Okay. Who knows?
Starting point is 01:31:09 The more Bezoses that get created. We just learned Bezos' mom is Cuban, by the way. Wow. Cuban-American. Oh, his father is Cuban. His father? And he's adopted. I don't know about Zito.
Starting point is 01:31:22 I mean, Zito's obviously Cuban. We got nailed down. Zito, obviously a Cuban man. So he's very, I mean, there was a very excited drop into my ear there. His mom's Cuban, his mom's Cuban, his mom's Cuban. But then as I'm speaking that right there, dad actually Cuban and adopted. So I don't know if Jeff was adopted, if dad was adopted, if his adopted family was Cuban or if his adopted family was adopted. Jeff was adopted at four years old.
Starting point is 01:31:46 His father is a Cuban descent immigrant. He is. Miguel, I believe, was his dad's name. Hold on. So his adopted dad or his. Sorry, Jeff. Jeff is adopted. Jeff is adopted.
Starting point is 01:31:59 So his adopted family is Cuban? Yes. Okay, got it. Okay. So he grew up in the Cuban world pretty much. That's why he's so successful. Yeah, and he's yawked right now. He's yawked right now.
Starting point is 01:32:12 He's yawked in a yacht right now. You know, I think all those guys you're talking about how, you know, Bob Iger stepped away and then he came back. I think it happened back in the day to Steve. Right. And then Steve Jobs came back. I think those uber successful, super brilliant human beings, like they get antsy.
Starting point is 01:32:26 I think you can only be, you know, doing whatever you're doing away from work for a bit. So I can't wait to see what Jeff Bezos dives back into. Unless he's just going to be jocked on a boat for the rest of his life. That'd be the first time that one of those uber geniuses just kind of did nothing. Thank God he has. It's pretty nice.
Starting point is 01:32:44 Yeah, I mean, I was, if you're going to get, no, he's jacked. I That yacht he has. It's pretty nice. Yeah, I mean, I would if you're going to get, no, he's jacked. I mean, he is. That must be great to just walk. If I was that jacked, I'd definitely walk around the office all the time. I don't really have an office, so maybe just my house. Well, the yacht is his office. The yacht is his office, and every time he's on his
Starting point is 01:32:59 office, there's people taking photos of him, and he's always shirtless and so jocked congrats funny how that happens i would be excited to see if he does get into the nfl how that changes thing because jeff is good businessman you know he will try to win and he will try to have success very quickly who knows what the new money is going to do there's some reports coming out of houston about some different conversations before the draft here one of them hey they're not that interested in maybe a quarterback another one that came out is a word on the street via Michael Lombardi told us
Starting point is 01:33:29 and he heard from others. Casario might be out of Houston after the draft. That's kind of rumbling on the Internet right now from numerous different people. What do you know about that, and what does the future look like for Houston? I don't believe there's any validity to the Casario rumor. Okay. Wow. I don't see why he would leave.
Starting point is 01:33:50 That seems like an awesome situation, and I have zero belief that they are going to move on from him at all. The other one is Lombo. Lombo? He just kind of dunked on him. Yeah, but Lombo said that he was just what he was hearing. I don't know if he meant that that was breaking news, but it was like being talked about.
Starting point is 01:34:11 I think Florio. Oh, yeah. Because that would be huge news. To your point, Ian, that would be a massive move that would come out of nowhere. Post-draft. Right after the draft. You're saying that. Also, I don't know why it would be.
Starting point is 01:34:24 I mean, he's set the thing up pretty good to be successful. What's that? He set the thing up pretty good to be successful. He got a lot of draft picks. What is your problem? Why do you laugh after I said, what's that? I just didn't hear you. You dropped out.
Starting point is 01:34:39 Because it's not like the Texans have been on fire for any of the last three years. Yeah, but one fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish. That's right. Was calling the shots. The quarterback just standing on the sidelines for an entire year. Yeah, bread, the body, the bread, blood, the wine. That was out.
Starting point is 01:34:56 That's out now. Now it's all bull. What's that? Yeah, all bull. But you just said, nah, shut up, not real. That's your actual feeling in the whole situation because of how alarming it sounds and you have not heard anything of validity of any of that i have heard that it is not valid how about quarterback at two that one i am not i cannot deny
Starting point is 01:35:19 that one like oh but like i am that of all the draft rumors, and you know this world, you've got to look into everything. At least it's an interesting one, and nobody there, and it's not like Nick Asher is going to share with literally anyone. I do not believe, no one there has said that's ridiculous. Will Anderson is a very good player. like that's ridiculous will anderson is a very good player if the texans took him at two it would be surprising but like he's good enough to where you'd be like okay well that value makes sense but then it's like they still need a quarterback yeah maybe they're gonna like wait to get one at 12 or move up from there but like history shows if you like a quarterback just take him because nothing is worth losing that's why the giants endedants ended up taking Daniel Jones in the top 10
Starting point is 01:36:06 when a lot of people thought they'd wait until 17. Like, just take him. History also shows us we have no fucking clue if any of these guys are going to be good. I mean, no idea. Yeah, it could be a fourth-rounder. It could be pick 199. It could be a first overall pick. It could be 15, 16.
Starting point is 01:36:21 Honestly, you have no clue. 267 or whatever. Purdy, Mr. O'Reilly. Oh, yeah, Mr. Last Pick. Yeah, you have no clue. 267 or whatever. Purdy, Mr. Rowley. Oh, yeah, Mr. Last Pick. Yeah, Brock Purdy. I don't know how many picks are in the draft. Because the Dolphins lost one this year. Because the owner, remember, the owner was calling Tom Brady saying,
Starting point is 01:36:36 get the fuck out of New England. I got a team for sale down here in Miami. Remember that? I do remember that. So they don't have a pick. It was like 85 years ago, by the way. They don't have a pick It was like 85 years ago by the way They don't have a pick That story all wraps up after this draft
Starting point is 01:36:49 Draft night going to be just a couple minutes shorter this year How long? This one's going to be a long one, huh? Because there's a lot of different opinions on players You think? Because some of these drafts Old boy Last year moved though Last year seemingly people knew what they wanted a little bit more And this one
Starting point is 01:37:04 No quarterbacks either, that was kind of the big thing And he was it Last year moved, though. Quick. Last year, seemingly, people knew what they wanted a little bit more, and this one. No quarterbacks either. That was kind of the big thing, right? And he was it. But now, if you have five guys potentially going in the top 15 or whatever, we might have a lot of teams using all 10 minutes on the clock. Holy shit. Breaking news while we're live here with Ian Rappaport. Ian, we have to talk about this because we owe it to the program adam schefter's reporting that canadian billionaire steve
Starting point is 01:37:34 apostropopolis and his family are still in the mix for the commanders with one source telling espn that's a head-to-head race. It's anyone's game. Wow. I do know that Stevie A here, okay, was not on the Today Show last week saying, hey, Dan Snyder's an awesome human being. Magic Johnson was. Is that a part of the gamesmanship that's taking place between these two mega billionaires to get to commanders? And how happy is Dan Snyder?
Starting point is 01:38:01 And how many other people do you think are potentially in the race still at this point, even though Sportico reported that a deal has already been finished between Josh Harris and Dan Snyder? That is a stronger denial of the Sportico report than I offered, because that would indicate there's no deal anywhere at all. I have not heard that. My understanding is Josh Harris is nearing a deal. I'm not denying that. I'm sure he has good sources. I have not heard that that is the case, but it does sort of indicate that there's nothing final and done. But maybe in the coming days, we'll get an answer. What's Astropaulus? What business is Stevie A in?
Starting point is 01:38:43 Do you know? What business is Stevie A in? Do you know? I am not quite familiar with the Canadian billionaire, nor how to pronounce his name, if we're being completely honest. Yeah, I butchered it a few times. If he ends up in the league, I apologize. But Steve Apostolopoulos.
Starting point is 01:38:59 Apostopoulos. Apostopopoulos. Apostolopoulos. Apostopopoulos. Apostolopoulos. Apostolopoulos. Steve Apostolopoulos. Boomolis apostolopolis apostolopolis steve apostolopolis boom okay we got there is canadian billionaire businessman he's born in toronto is the son of late greek canadian businessman andreas apostolopolis he is the managing partner of a real estate firm triple group of companies the founder of an equity firm sixures, and co-founder of a credit card. Okay.
Starting point is 01:39:31 So Apostolopolis has cake, I assume. Yeah. A lot of money. Founder of an equity, which has a bunch of other people's money in there as well, a bunch of other richest people's money. Yep. And then also founder of a credit card. Anytime you're in the money world and you're a founder of something,
Starting point is 01:39:43 you have a lot of it. You kind of have to. Shout out to Apostolopolis coming into the game potentially here late. I can tell you this is good information, B, because on March 22nd, I think the connect here is that Brian Windy Windhorse reported that Wiss Wasolopoulos
Starting point is 01:39:57 did submit a $6 billion bid. So if Windy's reporting it, then you know it's true. Yeah, but that was Canadian. We're talking USD here. We need cold hard cash. That means they probably actually offered $7.something billion American if they're offering $6 billion Canadian. That was always a wide wake up whenever you go
Starting point is 01:40:14 into Canada, then come back into Canada. I go into Canada, America's winning on a Friday. Come out on a Sunday, all of a sudden Canada's winning. I lose both ways and in the casino. Thank God Niagara Falls is a good time. We can't thank you enough for joining us. I understand you'll probably learn about Apostolopoulos and
Starting point is 01:40:30 thank you for all the news Ian. Have an incredible weekend. You guys have a great weekend. Enjoy the wedding. Congratulations Pat on the speech. Take a deep breath before you get out there because sometimes when there's a lot of eyes on you you get out of breath. Just take like a deep breath before you start going.
Starting point is 01:40:45 Okay, I'll try to manage my nerves. I appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rapport. Bro, Apostolopoulos is not fucking around. I think we got it, right? Apostolopoulos. Apostolopoulos. That was it.
Starting point is 01:41:00 Apostolopoulos. How about that last one? Man, I pronounce that thing 17 different ways. That's a tough name. Greek names are very difficult. Yeah, long, too. And what I also learned is, man, I don't know anything about any billionaires other than Americans.
Starting point is 01:41:14 No. Yeah. Rumor has it he actually created poutine as well. Okay. Good fries. That's huge. Oh, yeah. Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:41:20 Delicious. Probably has a couple Tim Hortons. Yeah, King Timmy's. Yeah. Oh, my God. Congrats to Apostolopoulos coming south of the border and fucking making a play in the capital. Could you imagine Apostolopoulos in the capital,
Starting point is 01:41:34 Canadian billionaire? Oh, my God. Oh, the relations would be so much better. They would. I wonder if Apostolopoulos is for or against Canada putting masks back on, because I think then we'll learn a lot about how gumpy feels about Apostolopoulos.
Starting point is 01:41:45 But nonetheless, congrats to all successful Canadians that have come to America. I assume he's against it. So, Andreas Apostolopoulos was a Greek-Canadian billionaire businessman as well. This is the father. He's best known for his ownership of the Silverdome. What? The Flint, Michigan
Starting point is 01:42:01 tropics? Hell yeah. Brother. Welcome to the Silverdome, brothers. Postolopoulos has been around. They created Greek Town. I've been to Greek Town. Greek Town's a good time. Let's go. Postolopoulos family likes to have a good time.
Starting point is 01:42:15 They like to do things right. If they get into the NFL, we'll be excited about it. And we literally just learned about their existence three minutes ago. Yeah, great names, too. Lopoulos is like the Greek version of Eni in Italian. Really? That's what it feels like.
Starting point is 01:42:28 I think Opolis. I think Opolis. O-U-P-O-L-O-S? Opolis? Or is it Lopolis? Greek names are awesome. Oh, yeah. Greek names are tough.
Starting point is 01:42:39 Italian names can get you every once in a while. What other names? Russian, like those Eastern Europe names. Kuznetsov. A lot of Ovs in that one. Apostolopoulos.
Starting point is 01:42:55 Apostolopoulos. Hey, we did it. Has played every minute of all five matches. I don't have a great center back. Apostolopoulos. Probably this guy. Might be his nephew. We have no idea if it's a great center back of Postolopoulos. Probably this guy's... Might be his nephew. Yeah, we have no idea if it's part of the
Starting point is 01:43:07 Silverdome founding family or not. I mean, if he's anchoring the Rhinos defense, we know he's in the Postolopoulos. Yeah, he's a dog, dude. Yeah. Alright, let's get to a break. Hour three will be on the other side. We'll answer some phone calls. We'll also have Pac-Man attempt to do a giveaway here on this
Starting point is 01:43:23 Nick's Getting Hitched Thursday. AJ, have you thought about Nick getting married because you're not going to be there? Have you had to visualize it to act like you'd be with all the lads having a good time, celebrating a little bit of love? Have you thought about it at all? Prick. Yeah, I have. I'm trying to work somebody in there to FaceTime the whole time so I can watch the whole ceremony. Oh, like that little
Starting point is 01:43:40 robot thing that they have on the laundry commercial. Yeah. I could probably do that for him. We'll put a laptop on a stick. Yeah, put it in my front pocket. He's got a front row seat. Once again. Oh, Pio, that'd be awesome, right? From your point of view, con man? If it's anything like an electric car,
Starting point is 01:43:56 you're in trouble. Well, we're not going to drive it state to state. It's still running by battery. Battery could die on both the FaceTime machine and on the robot that's driving AJ around. We'll do a long extension cord, so no matter what, we'll be plugged in. Bro, think about the head that we're going to put on that thing with your face in the middle of it. That would just be a gigantic cranium sitting on one of those.
Starting point is 01:44:19 Well, we could take home plate from PNC Park and put it on. There we go. Pirates need it. They're playing good. No, they were. Oh, yes. Do you want to address the elephant in the room? Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:44:32 What happened? For 16 years, a team in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Oh, yeah. Represented a sport and a league in the highest of fashions. Hear, hear. In the highest of fashions. Hear, hear. A Mount Rushmore player adopted a city and a city adopted he.
Starting point is 01:44:51 And for over a decade and a half, they would fucking go dancing into the playoffs. It was the longest active streak of any professional sports team on playoff berths, any of the leagues, including these pickleball leagues. The fives ain't fucking done it 16 times straight. Gary Vee might be able to get him to do it someday, but that day is at least a decade
Starting point is 01:45:14 and a half from now. Greatness personified. The Pittsburgh Penguins have missed the playoffs for the first time in 16 years. Sick taps. Good run. Sick taps. Good run. That can't happen.
Starting point is 01:45:25 The NHL cannot let that happen. It happened. Yeah, they can. I've seen it on the internet last night. Sidney Crosby, he has to be there. The playoffs are six months long. They need him. This is the only hockey that matters.
Starting point is 01:45:35 Yeah. Okay? This is the only hockey that the world sees in the player that has carried the NHL on his shoulders. Three Stanley Cups, one gold medal for Astropolopoulos' two gold medals for Apostolopoulos'
Starting point is 01:45:52 country up there. One time beating America. Didn't love it. But I was impressed with the way he was playing in the biggest moments. Never did any interviews. Nobody knew he existed a decade and a half. Carried that team on his shoulders. And now we're eyeing down a potential rebuild and certainly a GM getting fired.
Starting point is 01:46:09 Yeah. And he can't help but look back and just be proud of what the boys accomplished. And look back thankful for the moments in which we were very boozed up. And Lourdes would come into the bar that we were at on the south side of Pittsburgh. Numerous different years. Those were glory days. Yeah. Feels like those days were long ago,
Starting point is 01:46:32 and that's how long they've been good for. Thank you, Pittsburgh Penguins, for everything you did. Now, with that being said, what the fuck, dude? Yeah, welcome to Red Wing City. That's where we are. We're not even invited to the dance. We are the Detroit Red Wings all of a sudden. Yeah, not quite.
Starting point is 01:46:47 The Red Wings did 25 years in a row, so you guys were close. Yeah, there was 14. It was pretty good. Yeah, everybody made it. 16 was pretty good. Everybody made it. Well, how many teams are in the league? Six.
Starting point is 01:46:56 How many people make the playoffs? Six. No, this wasn't that long ago. All right, okay. But still great run. It was before the salary cap. It wasn't that long ago. Okay, so no one cares before the salary cap glad to hear that Nick
Starting point is 01:47:06 the other thing too that you can kind of find the little silver lining in is kind of like maybe now Sid you know he can go somewhere and maybe win a cup with another team that's at the top of the league maybe next year he decides you know what I do want to play for an original six team in the Boston Bruins
Starting point is 01:47:22 they're the reigning defending Stanley Cup champions and you know they only care about hockey. And then he just gets shipped up to Boston, and we can all root for the Bruins. Shipping up to Boston. Sidney Crosby. Shipping up to Boston. And Tanger.
Starting point is 01:47:39 Listen, Tanger and Sid aren't going anywhere, but I do believe going into the season, we thought this team might be a little bit too slow to have success because this team looks a lot like last year's team, and last year's team was a little bit too slow to have success. Yeah. Have they just gotten old? I haven't watched them.
Starting point is 01:47:54 Yeah, AJ, thanks. Yeah. They're not dead, so they're getting older. Yes. It's not about them getting old, too. Nick, do you have anything to say about this before all this slander continues? What was that, Connor?
Starting point is 01:48:04 I mean, the season on the line. They lost to the second-worst team in hockey, 5-2, at home. They might be broken, too. They might be broken mentally, but the guys are still playing good that are the guys. I don't want to—last time that happened was fucking when the Colts went down to Clowntown. Oh, boy. It was. Okay, so the Penguins and the Colts.
Starting point is 01:48:23 Yeah, but the Colts on the road. Pens are at home. Oh, so. It was. Okay, so the Penguins and the Colts. Yeah, but the Colts on the road. Pens were at home. Oh, so it's worse. Nick, any thoughts about the Pittsburgh Penguins' era of greatness? An era of us just being able to talk shit to anybody at any moment. That was so much fun. Hockey people, not everywhere. You run into a hockey person, know they're wearing any hat?
Starting point is 01:48:43 Fuck you. Your team stinks. Pittsburgh Penguins are the greatest team on earth. I could say that for the last decade and a half. There was a chance that we would win it. Some years were too slow, not going to make a run. There was most years, yeah, we could potentially go win this. Those were fun times.
Starting point is 01:48:58 We talked a lot of shit, Nick. Now it seems like we're in a spot where we can't do it anymore. We sure did, Pat, but there's nothing to be ashamed of. They maximized the potential. Three Stanley Cups in their lifetimes. Hey, and the big guys are still going. We don't know. If they fire that GM and they retool that roster the right way,
Starting point is 01:49:15 yeah, I mean, when? When they fire him next time. I don't like calling for people's jobs, but hey, pal, you made my life a lot worse. I want his head on a spike. Jesus, allegedly, that's a metaphor. Or like, you know, right out of the city. Not actually. Jesus.
Starting point is 01:49:27 Sid Crosby still scored 91 points this season. He's still an elite playmaker. Evgeny Malkin over a point a game. The big guys are still getting it done. They had no help from the supporting cast. It was absolutely abysmal. They were getting caved in. The analytics showed it.
Starting point is 01:49:40 The eye test showed it. You retool that bottom six. You give those guys some complimentary players to help them out a little bit. They're still a damn good team in the NHL. Hell yeah. It's not ever. Sorry showed it. You retooled that bottom six. You give those guys some complimentary players to help them out a little bit. They're still a damn good team in the NHL. Hell yeah. It's not over. Sorry about it. It just took a year off like when LeBron went out to L.A.
Starting point is 01:49:51 and he was drinking booze before he was going into the game. Sidney Crosby wasn't boozing before these games. But yeah, maybe he let a ball just roll out of bounds on an inbound pass. Maybe something slipped by. Maybe the goalies that have played for the Pens the last few years just forget how to play hockey in certain times. You want to get back on top? You fire this GM.
Starting point is 01:50:13 There's one woman for the job, and she shares the namesake of the current GM. You bring in Leah Hextall, and I guarantee you guys will be hoisting Lord Stanley. I appreciate where you're coming from. We don't want any plagiarism. Okay. Not only that, with obviously stealing the current GM's last name, I think they're in family and, you know,
Starting point is 01:50:33 maybe a call or two every once in a while. It's going to happen. And slides at home. A lot of mic time. I think the city of Pittsburgh, Penguins fans more specifically, sick of all Hextals. Not Leah's fault. Okay. Not Leah Hext Leah's fault. Okay.
Starting point is 01:50:45 Not Leah Hextall's fault. Okay. Ron's fault. Where's he from? Ron Hextall. What country is he from? I think he's Canadian. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:50:55 Okay. Why don't we, while we're getting rid of him, he could take his Canadian friend who calls plays for Steelers. They could both get the fuck out of town. Matt Cannell? Yeah. Not from, I don't think he's considered Canadian. Well, in my book.
Starting point is 01:51:06 What if at the family reunion they call it a Canadian affairs? My book, they're tied together. Same, same. All right. Mario can stay, though. Mario. Sid can stay. Mario can stay in the city.
Starting point is 01:51:18 He can stay. Canadians have done a lot of good for Pittsburgh as well. We understand that. Sid's going north, but not Canada. Oh, yeah, not at all Canadian. He's going to Boston. Let's get to a break. It's sad, AJ.
Starting point is 01:51:27 I just think it's travesty if Sidney Crosby is not in the playoffs for the whole league. Nah, it's okay. We don't care anymore. It's a new era, and that's Paulson McDavid. Sorry. Wasn't Ron a flyer, too? This is an inside fucking job. What? He was going for the flyers, but his father
Starting point is 01:51:44 was a Pittsburgh Penguin back in the day. Nice. It's in his blood. He was a Flyer though? Yes. He's got a win to get in.
Starting point is 01:51:55 Two games to get in? Yeah. That's all we had to do, pack. And they play the second worst team in the world. LeBron got in. We talking about
Starting point is 01:52:01 the same caliber of players? All right. You named that. AJ, Penguins are playing the Blue Jackets tonight. You should go pay your respects. 95% of the NHL doesn't get into the playoffs. Jackets aren't doing too well this year. The Blackhawks are 26-49-6 in your Austin.
Starting point is 01:52:15 Jeez Louise. Also, Sid didn't have the worst plus minus on his team, like LeBron. Excuse me. Let's get to our break. I wonder who holds that streak now. That playoff streak. I don't know because no one cared about anything before the salary cap era.
Starting point is 01:52:33 You guys have the most wins since 2005. Which Nick just said no one cared about hockey before 2005. Which makes me feel great. Cool. Add it to your little thing. Yeah, you guys should hang a banner or something for that. That'd be cool. We are hanging a banner and more wins than Sidney. What's going on? What's going on little thing. Yeah, you guys should hang a banner or something for that. That'd be cool. We are hanging a banner. And more wins than Sidney Crowley.
Starting point is 01:52:47 What's going on? What's going on? What just happened here? Hanging a banner? So due to the, and maybe I read this wrong, because I read it was tonight and we are away tonight, but due to breaking the most important, you know, stat in NHL history, the Bruins will be raising a banner
Starting point is 01:53:03 based on how many wins they've had this year. No way. An original 16 will be raising a banner based on how many wins they've had this year. No way an original 16 will be raising a banner for that. Hey, you got got. This is a macaque. It might be. But if it's not. If you don't win, it doesn't matter. If you don't win, who cares?
Starting point is 01:53:14 No ring doesn't mean a thing. You know what they say. There we go, Con. Regular season's all that matters. Shout out to Peyton Manning and the boys. Yeah. You know what I mean? Shout out to everybody up there.
Starting point is 01:53:24 Original 16. a lot of cups hanging a banner for a regular season record I like it let's celebrate these things you never know anything about being an original 16 but again I'm not sure exactly what is going on up there no matter what I just hope they wait
Starting point is 01:53:40 hanging a two sided banner one side has the wins the other side has the cup because at that point it would be what we do got to figure out a team that I'm going to They wait, hang a two-sided banner. One side has the wins. The other side has the cup. Because at that point, it would be what? We do got to figure out a team that I'm going to bet on. Oh, we want Jackie Aces. Just had the guy on yesterday. What about Texas Hockey?
Starting point is 01:53:58 Yeah, but dude, watching the Bruins play, you're like, that team's fucking better than everybody. Yeah. I mean, I was talking about this to Nick at this point. Obviously, it's the cup. but if they lose in the conference finals or the first or second, it's going to be heartbreaking. The program starts now.
Starting point is 01:54:15 It's in the air. Adam Pacman Jones joined in with one half of the Hammer Cowboys Tone Diggs and the Toxic Table at Boston Connor and Ty Schmidt as they said love as the beat dropped. The only human that didn't say it was the other person on the screen. He's to my left, your right. He's a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup champion,
Starting point is 01:54:33 and a man that just fails to go all in with the team. Yeah, always. AJ Hawk. Yeah. Good to be here. You don't like love, dude? You don't like the fact that Nick has found the person that he wants to spend forever with? Well, maybe if someone gives me a little bit of an alert
Starting point is 01:54:50 of what the word of the day is because it changes daily. You knew it from the last hour, okay? You were on and you heard it last hour, so don't act like you didn't know. Listen, sometimes we're going to have to be able to make audibles and adjustments on the fly, and you're just going to have to know it. Okay? You know, some offenses, you've got to be reading the defense the same exact way.
Starting point is 01:55:07 Yeah. Okay? That needs to happen here. All right, AJ? Okay. Yeah, remember we tried this one other time when I tried to jump in with you on this and you guys played a trick on me. Go back to the beginning.
Starting point is 01:55:16 All right, hey, it's love. What hour is this? What hour? Is this the first hour? It's love. The third hour. Same exact time we are right now. Yes.
Starting point is 01:55:24 That was actually just a commercial that was pre-recorded. And everything you just saw was not live. Nope. That was all a pre-recorded commercial. You just said he's not doing it. No, but we just recorded this. He will. What do you mean he's not doing it?
Starting point is 01:55:35 We recorded this four days ago. That's right. I'll do it. I'll do it. I'm in. Okay, sweet. So, Foxy, let's have this commercial end right now. And let's kick off the third hour of the program here on this beautiful Thursday, April 13th, 2023.
Starting point is 01:55:52 Hey, let's go. This show fucking stinks. And the fact that you listen, we are very, very thankful for it. AJ never cease to amaze me with your toxicity, pal. You got a couple of these? God damn it! What the fuck are you doing? Fuck Boston, Kyle! Hello, beautiful people.
Starting point is 01:56:21 Welcome back to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this holy shit, Nick's getting married Thursday, April 13, 2023. Hour three of the program starts now. Love. Nailed it. You guys are terrible teammates. Yeah. Terrible teammates.
Starting point is 01:56:37 I'm not kidding. Get it, get it. I nailed it. We wouldn't have been able to hear you. Congrats, Nick. Congrats, Nick. Not a lot of emphasis or enthusiasm on that. I said I would say it.
Starting point is 01:56:47 You didn't demand how much enthusiasm. I'm not demanding anything. I'm just asking you to buy in. I bought in and you guys all backed out. So there we go. I wanted to hear you. I didn't want to step over you. What if this was the first day you ever watched this show?
Starting point is 01:57:04 You can say that any day. That'd be great. Yeah, I know. Certainly to kick off an hour, yeah. Welcome back, you know, just hit the hole. So confused. Wait, was that not live? Was it really commercial?
Starting point is 01:57:13 So was that pre-recorded? What did happen? Imagine if we did. That would be like... Breaking the fourth wall? No, what's his name? Laying on the moon. We like moon.
Starting point is 01:57:24 Jim Carrey. Andy Coffman.. Andy Kaufman. Andy Kaufman. That would be an Andy Kaufman move. Just do a whole thing that looks like it's live. And then saying, oh, that's actually a prerecorded commercial. Let's go to the show now. And then wearing something completely different, but doing it for like 25 minutes.
Starting point is 01:57:38 And then going back to it. That would be an Andy Kaufman move. We're not that intelligent, but I do know there's a lot of things we have to talk about to wrap up this glorious week around the NFL. Keyshawn Johnson said on NFL Live yesterday something that I think we were maybe pondering about a few weeks ago. Sean Payton, listen, he ain't going to fuck around with a quarterback not playing good. Keyshawn Johnson brought that to light, and we believe it to be true.
Starting point is 01:58:00 Sean Payton, the only reason why he said, not the only reason, the biggest reason why he picked the Denver Broncos, obviously they have the richest owner in the sport, but also he said ownership, GM, head coach aligned. Everything that Sean Payton would potentially need or want to have success, they would basically give it to him. He has signed the most recent deal there. I know Russell Wilson has signed a big deal.
Starting point is 01:58:20 They bring Sean Payton in after Russell Wilson has signed his big deal. Sean Payton was not there when they signed Russell Wilson. Sean Payton wants to have success with Russell Wilson. But Sean Payton, if Russell Wilson stinks, which there were some games last year where. Many games. Was it him? Was it the offense? Was it a head coach?
Starting point is 01:58:37 Was it the situation? We have no idea what it was. You think Sean Payton would be able to pull the trigger and say, you know what, Russ? Here's a clipboard. We have a guy now on the field that can throw and make completions because that's literally what my offense is. I need the quarterback to complete the right passes in a bucket pretty much. You think Sean Payton would be able to do that,
Starting point is 01:58:56 like what Keyshawn Johnson said yesterday on NFL Live? Yeah, I think if anybody, any head coach in the league has the juice to do that, to sit Russell Wilson down, it would be Sean Payton. But I don't know. There would have to be, what, 10 weeks of poor play in a row to them even think about replacing him. Also, who do you put in? And then what's his contract look like?
Starting point is 01:59:14 Can they even sit this guy? What do you think? I'm sure they could. They would have to pay him a lot of money. I mean, it would be quite a stand. But to your point, be who you can afford to be, Sean Payton's one of the only people I think that people would be like, yeah, yeah, that's what Sean Payton thinks.
Starting point is 01:59:26 Russ is going to be better. No matter what, he's going to be better this year than last year. You think Hackett sucks? Okay, got it. I'm saying Russ obviously did not like that system or didn't like something going on. It was terrible. What do you think about Russell Wilson's performance last year
Starting point is 01:59:38 and then with Sean Payton, how he'll do? Well, the performance, was it less ride or less roll? Yeah, less ride. Less ride. It was so sweet. So sweet. Yeah Roll? Yeah, Let's Ride. Let's Ride. That was so sweet. So sweet. Yeah, it was kind of like they didn't ride anywhere. They got in a car.
Starting point is 01:59:50 Yeah. The ride wasn't good. Did you tell him that, Pat? Yeah, I told him. I said live last year that he played like shit. He did? Oh, I thought I meant did you give him the tagline, the Let's Ride? Oh, no, I didn't give him that tagline, but that was a billion-dollar tagline.
Starting point is 02:00:05 Let's ride. Genius. Boom. Hey, but. Fucking A, dude. What is it now? Buck him up? What is it now?
Starting point is 02:00:11 This is an artifact now. Buck you, I believe, or buck up. Buck him. Buck him. Buck him. Buck him. I got sent this from the Broncos. Like, big shout-out to the Broncos.
Starting point is 02:00:21 We appreciate the hell out of you. Yeah. With that being said, this took over the internet for good reasons. Of course. For good, positive reasons, not mockery reasons. Colleges started to do it. I'm quite sure they ain't saying that shit this year with Sean Payton. No, he said, buck him, I think.
Starting point is 02:00:36 Actually, I believe he said, buck him. And he said, hey, pass the buck and ball. Like, he was using buck as fuck. Very clearly. And I enjoyed it. But the hype around this was because everybody thought Russell Wilson and the Broncos were going to be great. Remember, that roster was supposed to win a Super Bowl if they just got a good quarterback. They go get a good quarterback.
Starting point is 02:00:56 A quarterback who has never won an MVP, right? That was the topic of conversation every single time he played football. Never had a first-place vote, right? Isn't that his whole thing? Yeah, that was a big story, but he was a good player, everybody assumed. And then he goes, that was abysmal. It was terrible. It was terrible to watch.
Starting point is 02:01:11 Was it Hackett, you think? Was it the offense? Will he be able to learn a brand-new offense yet again, third one in three years? Like there's so many different questions that go into it, but we all assume Sean Payton will be able to get the best out of Russell Wilson. Yeah, I mean, Hackett was definitely part of it, but Russ did not look the same last year.
Starting point is 02:01:25 We talked so many times on either Mondays or Tuesdays or the following day after they played, and you just looked at several of his throws. It's like, what the fuck is this guy doing? He has not done this shit before. We always talked about how pretty his deep ball was when he was in Seattle. Out of the moon!
Starting point is 02:01:41 From the moon! Yeah, the moon ball right into a bucket. And then it was the Colts game where there's a terrible score, they drive down, they get into the red zone, they have a chance to put it away, and he goes right at Stephon Gilmore two times in a row, second time Gilmore picks him off. It's just like little shit like that
Starting point is 02:01:56 that just made no sense, and maybe Hackett was a huge part of that. Hey, those moon balls, a problem for a corner? And why do you think we didn't see it? That takes a lot of arm strength, does it not? Yeah, but he was on the motion a lot when he was in Seattle. I mean, on the move a lot in Seattle. You could see this past year, he was throwing from the
Starting point is 02:02:12 pocket a lot. What is that doing to you guys? Well, certain quarterbacks don't do good just sitting in the pocket. He only, my height. What's that? 5'10", maybe. Maybe. 6'0". 5'10". 5'10", maybe. Maybe. 6 feet. No, I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 02:02:25 5'10", 5'11", okay? Yeah, 5'12". It's hard for me to see over the line. These guys are 6'6", 6'5", 6'1", 6'2". So I like to do play action, get out on the outside of the pocket. That way I can throw the big moon ball, which is play action. Nine times out of ten is that ball open. You know, the DB is looking in the backfield
Starting point is 02:02:48 or got sucked up on the play. Oh, can't be getting sucked up. Can't be getting sucked up, dude. Huh? Keep it tight. Did Russ have any surgeries or anything in the offseason? Was he dinged up that we don't know about? Swag, I think he Yeah, swag infusion.
Starting point is 02:03:03 Yeah, I think he did have a little bit of a swag infusion. I think he lost some weight. He's at OTAs. He's showing up, unlike some guys. He was the first one there, actually, I read. Yeah, he had a moxie shake, didn't he? Some people were drinking milkshakes. And he didn't have his Broncos jersey.
Starting point is 02:03:20 He had his college jersey on. And he came out of that fucking monster truck that he drove to training camp. So, yeah, he had some surgeries, I guess, depending upon what you're talking about. You know, I don't know if he had any injuries. He did add a lot to his game. The good man brand came around. That's right.
Starting point is 02:03:34 But Team 3's gone, right? In Denver, they're not allowed in the facility. Is that correct? Team 3 might be gone, but 3? No, the surgery, no office. He's always going to be there. He ain't going anywhere. Yes.
Starting point is 02:03:43 What a truck. Nice truck. What is it? Pac-Man, just real quick. I don't think that's electric. I don't think that's electric. no office is always going to be there yes what a truck nice truck what is electric pac-man just real quick i don't think that's electric i don't think that's electric look at that antenna on the back what is that i think that's underwater bro that's for service if you're out there in the middle of nowhere pal you're camping in that thing you can go in six feet of water that's why his exhaust is up top hell yeah a little snorkel on that thing yeah so he can look up plays any type of film he wants that's why so it antenna is there. So it's actually,
Starting point is 02:04:05 that antenna is actually a flat screen that pops up and spins in front of the car while he's driving so that there's no wasted time watching film. Genius. Just a movie theater
Starting point is 02:04:17 right in front of him while he's driving home. Pac, have you ever seen somebody wear their own jersey to training camp? Never in my life. Me neither. That was my biggest takeaway.
Starting point is 02:04:26 New team. He's excited, though. New colors, new team. Would you wear your jersey to training camp? AJ? AJ, dude. I did it every year. Yeah, they just never took my picture.
Starting point is 02:04:38 I wish they would have. I was yelling at them to do it, but they didn't. Why not? They didn't want to waste any fucking frames on you, pal? You wore your practice jerseys every day. No, no. Game jerseys. You know how game jerseys
Starting point is 02:04:48 look so good with no pads on just real tight and long? Yeah, I wore that. And then Eye black, right? Kevin I started putting eye black on after the third or fourth year
Starting point is 02:04:57 I wouldn't get any attention for it. So Kevin Green would do the same thing? He'd wear like his stealer? You guys would He'd be like He did a J brother. Yeah, he would do
Starting point is 02:05:04 KG would. KG had the biggest this chopper with the huge handlebars oh man that dude is the man i'm so so so upset he's gone i do think we should clarify that aj is uh talking out of his fucking ass yeah whenever he says that he would wear it because like oh yeah yeah my bad so i don't know if you took me serious yeah somebody it might, it might be somebody's first time watching the show, AJ. Yeah, literally. Good call, Pac. Great point you got there. Great point, Pac-Man.
Starting point is 02:05:29 I did not wear my jersey to training camp, but if I somehow could go back in time, maybe I would. Yeah, well, I think that was my first thing that, like, things were up with Russell Wilson. You know, like, because Russell Wilson is a movie character. It's the first thing. It's the very first thing you thought, like, oh, this is a little bit unique. Yeah, I thought the season was fucked that day. Put that picture back up. As soon as I seen it, I'm like, well, that's a problem.
Starting point is 02:05:51 I've never seen a human that has had success in the NFL wear their own jersey to training camp. He had that made, too. It had no Nike sign on it. Yeah, it's team three. Hey, I fucking love him. Yeah. I want him to get back to being good. Russell Wilson is his own entity. He's obviously a great story fourth rounder i think right third third rounder up in there to
Starting point is 02:06:12 becoming a superstar he gets paid finally because remember he had a third round contract and then does it all and he's laying in bed with sierra yep with the chains and 100 million yeah yeah got all in there so hopefully he'll be able to figure it out. Sean Payton seems like the guy to be able to get it done. Russell Wilson's at OTAs before anybody else. He's going to learn the offense. They're going to be a whole new team. He did have knee surgery this offseason. Oh yeah, clean it up.
Starting point is 02:06:35 Obviously they're going to be better. We all love Sean Payton. They have to play the AFC East this year. Their division is very, very good now. Jimmy G's on the Raiders. What is actual success for the Broncos? Like 8-9? Because they're not beating the Chiefs twice. I think people will be pissed
Starting point is 02:06:51 if they don't go at least 10-7. They need to make the playoffs. Yeah, they have to make the playoffs. Oh, man. I don't know. You put the Raiders as contenders because Jimmy G went there? No, I think they're better, though. Then, yeah. What are you saying? What are you saying? Hold on. I mean, that was certainly a comment that war. Then, yeah. What are you saying? What are you saying?
Starting point is 02:07:05 Hold on. I mean, that was certainly a comment that warrants a little conversation. I'm just saying, I think Denver get way better than the Raiders fucking get by bringing Sean Payton than the Raiders fucking bringing Jimmy G. So you don't like Jimmy G? I'm saying Jimmy G is a guy like he don't, I don't think he make the offense better. I think he can execute the offense, though, is what Josh McDaniels will say.
Starting point is 02:07:28 Yeah, but does that make them better? Well, actually, that's a great question because after games, you'll hear people say, we just didn't execute, we didn't execute. That's an excuse by coaches to say game plan was solid. Okay? Players fucked. Their fault. Their fault.
Starting point is 02:07:41 It's their fault. Players fucked up. Boom. It was them. Jimmy G, I feel like, will execute game plan game plan like that is what he is known for almost so i think like the the execution thing can't really be the question with jimmy g i feel like he's gonna put people in the right you know what i mean yeah but now is that team is josh mcdaniel's offense is that roster good enough to go on a win i think that is certainly a question yeah definitely especially
Starting point is 02:08:04 because like their defense has never been as good as the defense that Jimmy G has had. Oh, no. Here we go. It's like what the Saints did with Pac-Man here. Yeah. You got Max Crosby over there. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:16 No. They have a great – Max Crosby and Chandler Jones are great lines. But they don't have a nine. Yeah, after that. Let's say all the twos that he had in San Francisco, though. He don't have more twos with the Raiders than he had in San Francisco. Completely agree. And he couldn't win it there.
Starting point is 02:08:32 And I'm not saying the Raiders are the biggest competitor with the Broncos, but they're not better than the Chargers and the Chiefs. And Sean Payton coming in is going to help a lot. But was Russell Wilson bad at, you know, because he didn't know the plays, or were all his deep balls deep or short, or was he missing throws that he usually made? No, he stunk. Yeah, that was the bigger thing than him not like
Starting point is 02:08:51 I thought he potentially did ayahuasca and forgot how to play football. If time comes in, though. Didn't we all think that? Didn't we all think that a little bit? Because that was like not the Russell Wilson that any of us had done. Didn't we expect him to put it together eventually? That's what I think we were waiting for all season and it never really clicked. It never got consistent.
Starting point is 02:09:06 So I remember I'm hearing Herbstreet's voice when the Colts were playing the Broncos, talking about how, you know, work in progress, work in progress here. That was like week nine, week eight? That was in there a little bit. It was early on. Maybe. Was it earlier than week nine or week eight, maybe?
Starting point is 02:09:20 No, no. I don't think – I think it was around then. But I'm saying that's pretty – I mean, you talk training camp and OTAs. That's, I mean, halfway through a season, that's pretty far for a veteran quarterback. If Aaron Rodgers and Matt LaFleur's offense looked the way it looked deep into that first season, there would have been full-on, throw this in the dumpster, this is terrible. That's how bad it was for how long it was it was always week five was the colts broncos game so he was talking about how there's
Starting point is 02:09:49 like growing pains growing pains it was like okay that sounds very feasible that sounds very understandable but then it just never they never grew right no well and then that stat came out that was like if the broncos would have scored 17 or more points this was like through week 10 that like they would have been like eight and2 or something like that. The defense was fucking killing teams every week. He had five touchdown passes through the first eight weeks of the season.
Starting point is 02:10:13 That was tough to watch. Their defense was really good. Because they paid Russell Wilson all that money, they had to trade Bradley Chubb because they can't pay guys. Good luck to all parties out there. Good luck. A lot of money. Tough division. Let's talk about Nick Casario.
Starting point is 02:10:30 Allegedly, there was a report on the internet. Ian just said it's not true. He didn't even talk about it. But he didn't know about Apostolopoulos. That's true. Did anybody know about Apostolopoulos? Shefty and Windhorse.
Starting point is 02:10:45 But before this, though, when did his name pop up before this? March 22nd. That's when Windy said that Apostolopoulos is potentially getting into the game. So Windy knows him. Also, anybody that grew up around Pontiac, Michigan knows the Apostolopoulos family. Of course. Dad, founder of Silverdome. Is the Silverdome still up?
Starting point is 02:11:07 Isn't it still there? Well, Apostolopoulos, Andreas, the father, whenever he left, Silverdome went to shit, I think. Is that what happened, Foxy? I was trying to remember. I feel like it's not there anymore, but that's a complete guess. It was up there for a while, vacant, I think.
Starting point is 02:11:21 Yes, that's correct. I know that for sure. And then did they implode it? That's always like a good time. I believe that's what happened, but I'm not remembering right. They did that to the igloo in Pittsburgh. And I'll tell you what, I almost missed school for a day because of it all around Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 02:11:33 Everybody turn on your news. WTAE, what's going on? Same with Three Rivers. They're blowing up the igloo. Same thing with Three Rivers. In 2017, the Silverdome came down. But Apostholopoulos, I think Winnie knows him because I saw in the article
Starting point is 02:11:45 that he's been sniffing around the cell of the Charlotte Hornets. Oh. Okay, so he's in the game. I thought you were going to say because he buys like 80 gyros from his local establishment every day. That's a good Greek reference. You feel good about that? I wasn't sure if the G was silent.
Starting point is 02:12:01 They should not have tore the Silverdome down. They should have left it as a standing memorial to where 90,000 people saw the Hulkster body slam onto the giant at WrestleMania 3. Hell yeah. I agree.
Starting point is 02:12:10 Hell yeah. Isn't there a memorial of that in place of the stadium? Somebody told me I should build a $600,000 field turf for a school here in Indianapolis.
Starting point is 02:12:18 That's right. What is that? That's it? They said it's another... Yeah, it's it. It's Silverdome. It's another venue. They took the roof off?
Starting point is 02:12:26 Yeah. I assume this is the implosion video? Yeah, it's just silver now. Do they sell the seats? Usually you can sell those seats. No, the last Lions game of the year, my uncles were actually there and they were just ripping the seats out to take a super Yeah, because they wanted a piece of the the silver dome, brother. What was that?
Starting point is 02:12:42 Just like four years ago. Superdome. Yeah. Hulk Hogan. Oh, boy. They really gave it to him. Welcome to the Silverdome. Yep. Kicking off WrestleMania. Biggest event of the year down in New Orleans.
Starting point is 02:12:53 Silverdome doing its thing. But venues. Always good to have extra venues around town. Oh, yeah. Apparently it was supposed to be demolished in 2017, but there was a wiring issue, so when they went to demolish it, it didn't work. You guys didn't even have good imploders, bro?
Starting point is 02:13:08 What is the deal? You guys can't blow a thing up? You don't just blow that thing up normally. That thing's going to be tough. There's big brains in that. There's big brains in where they put the explosives and how they do it. I don't want to dive into fracking, but there's a lot of that stuff going on.
Starting point is 02:13:23 Strategic explosives are a full thing. You don't want to jump into a fracking. There's a lot of that stuff going on. Strategic explosives are a full thing. You don't want to jump into a fracking conversation? But I believe that's what they do. It's like strategic explosives. Can't believe that fucking Detroit couldn't figure it out. That's a fun gig.
Starting point is 02:13:38 Oh, there it is. Rest in peace. Brother! How long does it take to scrape this. Brothers. Oh, no. How long does it take to scrape all that up and get it out? Oh, no. They couldn't get to second level. Oh, no.
Starting point is 02:13:50 People. Come on. That's not how it's supposed to work. Cool footage, though. That is super cool, man. It looks like a stadium from back there. What do you get, a wrecking ball? What are those?
Starting point is 02:14:00 Is that GM's parking lot? Oh, it is going. You got a big Miley Cyrus kick, huh? What's that? Him? Yeah. Yeah, he says Miley's got a lot of confidence. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:14:11 What about Miley? You just said wrecking ball. Oh, I didn't mean, yeah. Well, kind of, though. So what's this going to be now? Well, right here, it's going to be a retail entertainment complex right there on the right, right on the highway. Oh, that looks sweet.
Starting point is 02:14:25 Man, we're going to miss the Silverdome, but really pumped about the redevelopment of the Silverdome. Hell yeah. Are you talking about new business destinations? Possibly you. All right. All right, let's go to the phones. That feels like everything. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:14:42 I mean, the breaking news during the show has been the break the biggest news of the week yeah but we don't know if it's real and it's fake yeah exactly yeah it's come to the table this is the everyday live thing though pack and i think you're getting to experience it obviously and you're doing a great job with us we get caught up in some stories that just turn out not be real 100 fake the amount of like clips like oh listen what they said about this it's like we can get got. We were celebrating Dan Snyder giving that thing to Josh Harris. I got a full promo about how Magic Johnson going on to today's show
Starting point is 02:15:12 helped this whole thing out. At that moment, that thing was sold in our eyes. And that's how it goes, too. Zeta will find it. It'll be seconds after it breaks. And then five minutes later, after you've cut an entire promo, it comes out that it's not confirmed. And then it's not real yet.
Starting point is 02:15:29 And then people go, oh, this thing really aged well or whatever. If it would have happened. What if it's a smokescreen, though? What if somehow Dan Snyder leaked this info to Shefty about Apostolopoulos just to get a bigger bid from Big Magic Johnson? Let's start thinking about this. Remember, I told you about the negotiation strategy of mr kim i have to go ask mr kim that's right what if apostolopoulos is not a real human okay this is just a fake human that dan snyder did create dan snyder had dinner with wendy one time on his yacht out at their napoleon's
Starting point is 02:15:59 island and wendy was like what do you got here and he obviously loved to spread him and dan snyder got along dan snyder was a gentleman in this particular fashion. Isn't always a gentleman. That's because he was working. He said, Wendy, wait till you hear about what Apostleopolis is offering. So he puts that thing out in the buzz. Then the Bezos thing comes out. Oh, Bezos.
Starting point is 02:16:16 Already told Bezos. What if this is all just a way for Dan Snyder to build up the bidding for his team, and none of it's real. Certainly possible. Would have had to get on a Wikipedia page and, you know, kind of create a false narrative or a false life for this guy, but that's not that hard. Anyone can bid a Wikipedia page. Foxy had no idea who owned the Silverdome.
Starting point is 02:16:38 No idea. I only went to the Silverdome once in my life, though. Oh, this guy sucks. I was like six years old. They made Ford Field in like 2000, I think. And crazier things have happened. I could see Dan Snyder, you know, feeding windy grapes on his yacht. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:16:54 Telling him stories. Yeah. I could see it. It's a villain move. It's true. Josh Harris is a 5% owner in the Steelers, and we know that Tepper and Haslam were also a minority owner in the Steelers. So if you do that, you're automatically an owner in the NFL. So how about know that Tepper and Haslam were also a minority owner in the Steelers, so if you do that, you're automatically
Starting point is 02:17:05 an owner in the NFL. So how about Rooney just selling us a little piece? Give us a piece, Rooney! What's that? So much money. Six billion? Let's just do what's five percent of six billion is. Quick math. 300?
Starting point is 02:17:22 Nope. 600, 300 million? 30? I think 300, right? 300 million? Nope. 600, 300 million? 30? No, I think it's 300. I think 300, right? 300 million? Is it? Yeah. Sweet.
Starting point is 02:17:31 Good math out of you. Let's go. Okay. All right. $3.98 billion is how much the Pittsburgh Steelers are worth? No chance. Okay. There is no way. Hey, Rooney, Rooney. That is so disrespectful. Rooney, look, your team ain are worth? No chance. Okay. What's... There is no... Hey, Rooney, Rooney.
Starting point is 02:17:46 That is so disrespectful. Rooney, look, your team ain't worth nothing, dude. Just give us like 60, 70, 80% of that thing. You know what I mean? And we need money to operate the team. Right. That feels right. I mean, the Broncos just went for four-something.
Starting point is 02:17:57 D.C. is a much bigger city, I'm pretty sure. And expensive. Yeah. Very... But you have to build a stadium, though, in Washington. And we talk about when you go to games around the country, no matter what game it is, there will be a Steelers jersey. Yeah, and the amount of merch that is sold from Steelers is huge.
Starting point is 02:18:11 The business is certainly booming in Pittsburgh. That stadium in Washington is not going to get okayed. I don't know how anybody thinks that's going to be. But the new owners have to feel like they have a good chance of getting it okayed. I don't think they would buy it if they didn't think they had a chance. Is that not the grandstand capital of the world? Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 02:18:31 Yeah, and I believe they were already denied. Granted, it might have been. But they're saying, oh, it's Dan Snyder, it's Dan Snyder. It's like any time a stadium needs to be built anywhere for anything. Certainly going to be damn near impossible to do it with tax dollars, you would think. It almost would have to start at, like, we will fully fund this and pay for anything. Certainly going to be damn near impossible to do it with tax dollars. You would think. It almost would have to start at, like, we will fully fund this and pay for it. Well, then the land becomes another full thing.
Starting point is 02:18:52 I guess they could just buy it off of a private owner if they were to pay for it entirely. It's going to be an expensive stadium. It doesn't feel like they'll be able to put it in D.C., but if they did like the Foxboro, where they buy a massive plot, build a stadium. Where, though?
Starting point is 02:19:06 Everywhere there is dense. Yeah. That whole area is very dense. It's going to be out there. It's going to have to be out there somewhere. An hour and a half away. Yeah, but think about the traffic, too, in that area. That would be great.
Starting point is 02:19:15 Redlock City. Oh, my God. It's going to be tough. That's going to be a tough thing. Plus $6 billion, whoever buys it. Somebody will figure it out. That's why they're billionaires. They have to.
Starting point is 02:19:23 Well, when they were first talking about building it, the plans were for a 42,000 seat. If you're going to do it, you've got to be able to seat at least 70,000 people in there. They'll figure it out, Peck. Yeah, of course. I'm not sure they're not spending $6 billion and haven't already went through these questions that we're talking about. They bought a $100 million site in Virginia. Who did? The commanders.
Starting point is 02:19:47 Okay, so the site's already in there. All you gotta do is just build it, construct it. Okay, so we got a new stadium, no problem. Woodbridge, Virginia. They bought a 200-acre plot of land for $100 million. Was that the one off the highway where we saw the renderings? Yeah, the renderings. It looked awesome. I didn't know they bought it. I thought they were
Starting point is 02:20:04 thinking about buying it. Yeah, and ifings. They look awesome. I didn't know they bought it. I thought they were thinking about buying it. Yeah, and if that is the traffic, some cities just have to deal with that, and they're just going to have to acquire the right to purchase. I don't know if it's true. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Okay. Yeah. Okay, so they got it, though.
Starting point is 02:20:13 They can still spend it and do it. 23 miles outside of DC. How about Dan Snyder going, yeah, I'm not going to buy it, but I'll let you know you can. Yeah. You guys can buy it. We're also not factoring in Magic Johnson flashes those
Starting point is 02:20:25 pearly whites. Those politicians are going to do whatever he says. Right. He went on today's show and got the bid in. Apostolopoulos ain't doing that. Nope. Let's go to the phones. 500 phone line before we get the fuck out of here. Rob in Pittsburgh. What's going on, pal? Shout out, Pat. It's an honor. Enjoy all your work, man.
Starting point is 02:20:42 Thank you, Rob. You too, pal. What's going on? You guys are coming back to the Berg Avoid the south side of Sketchy AF right now Okay Good to know Turner's in Iron City has a beer Okay If you're going to gobble
Starting point is 02:20:53 Go to live You can gobble in the mall And have Chick-fil-A Enjoy your weekend bro Thank you Rob Appreciate you pal Wow Hell yeah
Starting point is 02:21:01 That was a great piece of information Thank you Rob That's a top five call right there. It's about to be a great weekend in Pittsburgh. Let's go to Nolan in Jacksonville on the 5RNG phone line. What's going on, Nolan? Don't go to live. That's out of time.
Starting point is 02:21:12 How you doing? I think it's in Washington. I think it's in Greensboro. Yes, sir. I was wondering if you think that Dan Snyder was keeping Harris' little side piece and was solely waiting for Bezos to place a bid and knock them all out of the water What about a Postolopoulos? What about a Postolopoulos? He ain't real.
Starting point is 02:21:42 You think that's a fake human? I like that. That's a flatter boy. All right. I love it. I love if he thinks. I do appreciate the fact that we think that Dan Snyder is that big of a mastermind. Yeah, because that would be genius.
Starting point is 02:21:54 He just can create some fake Wikipedia pages. Fake silver dome owner. Yep. You watch Succession. Stuff like that can happen. Yes. That's what I'm saying. I think that's why we think like that because all they care about is the bottom line.
Starting point is 02:22:08 That's right. They'll do anything. That's the game almost. How do we change the bottom line a little bit? And that was the first episode where they had one bid and then some other person comes in and raises it a little bit. Zito just asked, have you watched the most recent episode of Succession? Yeah, I saw old buddy fake his own death.
Starting point is 02:22:23 I saw that. Oh. Classic. We got an Avicii situation. Interesting. most recent episode of succession yeah i saw old buddy fake his own death i saw that oh classic we got navici situation interesting wow you didn't watch the after show explanation of the episode there's been a lot of interviews that have been done by the cast of characters about episode three there seems like it's been a pretty known pivotal episode for some time that came out of nowhere. Spoiler, spoiler, earmuffs if you haven't seen it. It's real early to kill one of the greatest characters in the history of television.
Starting point is 02:22:54 Seven episodes left. I guess one person only saw the dead body. That was Roman. They kind of showed it though in the episode. Kind of showed it. That's real early to kill that guy. The show is called Succession, though, so it's supposed to be, hey, how do the kids do it? Yeah, well, that's what I'm saying, though.
Starting point is 02:23:11 The business shit that could set up here with Mattson still in play. Oh, yeah. And Jerry back pissed. Jerry's back. Pissed, too. She's got an axe to grab. HBO's got no problem killing off main characters very early. Yeah, Game of Thrones, right?
Starting point is 02:23:25 That happen all the time? Let's see what happens with the ex-wife and current wife. They're definitely going to come back into the fold. And girlfriend. Yep. Gojo. Oh, Chuckles. Chuckles the clown?
Starting point is 02:23:36 Mm-hmm. Like she caught a foul ball at the Yankees game. That was awesome. Let's go to the phones. 500 phone line. Great show. We're telling Pac he's got to watch it. Mm phone line. Great show. We're telling Peck he's got to watch it. Got to watch it, Peck.
Starting point is 02:23:46 Yeah. And if AJ's not sold, what should sell him is that the bodyguard that he goes to dinner with, he was crying, okay, outside. That's what really sells it. Oh, yeah. Okay. Unless he's getting work, too. Let's go to Cody in Maine.
Starting point is 02:24:01 Cody, what's going on, pal? Hey, what's up, boys? Let's keep it moving. All right. I wanted to ask you all about Devin White. Cody in Maine. Cody, what's going on, pal? Hey, what's up, boys? Let's keep it moving. All right. I wanted to ask you all about Devin White. I've not been hearing a whole lot of chatter about him after requesting that trade. To me, the Eagles seem like a good landing spot, losing Edwards and White.
Starting point is 02:24:20 But I wanted to know what you all thought, best option for him and where he might land. Have a great weekend, Cody. A.J., Devin White's still a great player, right? Yeah, I think he's a stud. But didn't his GM just come in and act like, hey, we're not moving him? Tony Diggs wanted to ask Rappaport about it earlier, but we overran some time on some stupid conversations. What did you read about it? Because I hadn't heard anything.
Starting point is 02:24:35 Because, like, the guy's been a pro bowler, an all-pro. He's won a Super Bowl. He's a fifth overall pick. He's only 25. I was surprised that we hadn't heard more about it. I didn't see the GM thing. That's why I was going to ask about it. Let's go to Devin White's player.
Starting point is 02:24:47 Yeah, player. I wouldn't move him if I was Tampa Bay. What are they going to have to do? Just repay him? Is it money? It's his fifth year coming up for a first round. I think he's due a contract either after this year or, yeah. Oh, he wants an extendo.
Starting point is 02:24:59 They're able to do that down there all the time with Mike Greenberg, the salary cap guru. They should be able to figure that out. But we should have asked Rap. We apologize that we didn't. Up there in Maine, Tampa Bay fan. Or is he a Phillies fan or Eagles fan? Could be an Eagles fan.
Starting point is 02:25:11 Eagles would be in play for everybody, it feels like. Harry Roseman. Would make sense. Last call here on the 5RNG phone line. Let's go to Tyler in El Paso, Texas. Always down there in Texas. What's going on, pal? What's going on, Pat? Shout out to you guys. FTB, baby.
Starting point is 02:25:27 Hell yeah. You can shout in FTB. Keep it moving, boys. I just have one question, one favor. I was wondering, Magic Johnson said a lot about Dan Snyder. So I was wondering what Lou Holtz thought about Dan Snyder. Was Lou Holtz a fan, or is he more of a Brian Kelly fan? Tyler, that's a great question. I don't think we need to ask about Brian Kelly to Lou Holtz a fan or is he more of a Brian Kelly fan? Tyler, that's a great question.
Starting point is 02:25:47 I don't think we need to ask about Brian Kelly to Lou Holtz. We've already known that, but is Lou Holtz a part of the ownership group that is getting him into the Washington Commanders building? That's a great question. Coach, Coach Lou Holtz, are you a part of this group that is buying the Washington Commanders potentially from Dan Snyder? Unfortunately, a lot
Starting point is 02:26:03 of people know this. I was the head coach of the New York Jets for about two months. They fucking tossed my ass out of the NFL quicker than you would believe. I'm not an NFL guy, okay? I mold young minds. I mold young boys into men. Dan Snyder is your
Starting point is 02:26:20 fucking talk program. You say suck my tongue? I am actually good friends with the Dalai Lama. I know you guys were talking about it last week. He's a jokester. He's a prankster, okay? So guess what? If that kid didn't know that the Dalai Lama was joking around
Starting point is 02:26:34 when he said, hey, kid, suck my fucking tongue, then guess what? That's on his kid and it's on his parents. If he were to come and joke his name, I'd let him know, hey, he's holding this joke around, okay? He okay he pranks around yeah a couple recruits come in and just to kind of take their temperature i'll send them down to my office and say hey you know what you want to play quarterback all you gotta do suck my tongue oh they do so you and him it's your thing yeah it's kind of just you know it's a generational thing it kind of just tests the mental kids, and it lets me know, hey, how committed is this kid to playing quarterback under me?
Starting point is 02:27:07 Will he suck my tongue? If he will, shit, he could be a legend. Thank you, Cubs. Thank you, Cubs. It's a shame to hear you're not getting into the NFL. Huge bummer. It's tough. All right, this episode of the Pat McAfee Show was brought to you by NASCAR.
Starting point is 02:27:20 Hell yeah. Listen up, because they got an important message for all of you, and we seen it on Twitter this morning Got a chance to chat with them The people's champ NASCAR's number 9 cup series driver And 2020 season champion Chase Elliott is back
Starting point is 02:27:34 Hell yeah Coming off an unfortunate snowboarding accident Where he fractured his fibula Chase is back to the track this weekend Doing what he does best, going fast He's back to the quest for another championship. I don't know about you. We're pumped about it.
Starting point is 02:27:48 So pumped. And if he wins, we're actually donating $100,000 to a charity of his choice. You can watch this race Sunday, 3 p.m. on FS1. It's the NASCAR Cup Series at Martinsville, Sunday, 3 p.m. Eastern on Fox Sports 1. Chase Elliott is back. Let's go. Hell, yeah. Good mustache. Eastern on Fox Sports 1. Chase Elliott is back. Let's go. Hell, yeah.
Starting point is 02:28:07 Good mustache. Great mustache. Good conversation. Yeah. AJ, I think you would like Chase Elliott. Seemed like a good guy. He was wearing his full costume. I don't know if that's because he just got done working or they told him, hey, be in costume.
Starting point is 02:28:19 Nonetheless, cool guy. Promo father. Yeah, it's good to have number nine back always. How long was he out? Six weeks. Six weeks. Long time in the middle of the season. We've got a lot of season left, though. Yeah. He's good to have number nine back always. How long was he out? Six weeks. Six weeks. Long time in the middle of the season. We've got a lot of season left, though. He's too far behind on points. He's just going for
Starting point is 02:28:29 fucking wins. That's right. He needs to win this thing. If you're not first, you're last. Amen. What's the stage thing they do? It's three stages. They break it up into three races. It's basically a pit stop scheduled for every single car so that these longer races get broken up
Starting point is 02:28:46 and there's more points for stage wins. Third one is the race, though. Third is the final one, and it is the actual wrap-up of the race. I think they also do it because after each stage, they basically restart the race, so it brings all the cars back together. Yeah, because anytime you get a yellow or a caution or something like that, and you have to
Starting point is 02:29:02 do a restart, those are the most exciting times of the race whenever you're in the middle of it because everybody's back in it. So now they're like, oh, how do we do that? Well, we can guarantee at least two of them with the stage game. A lot of the OG fans, like 10 Diggs, don't love it. They don't love it at all. I'm with Tom on this one.
Starting point is 02:29:19 Fucking Intimidator, hate it. Well, Intimidator was actually racing against Chase's dad a lot, I guess. Kicking his ass. Bobby LeBron and Mark Moore. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. They're battling out there in those cars. Anyways, 3 p.m. Eastern, Fox Sports 1, back in Martinsville.
Starting point is 02:29:33 Before we get out of here for an incredible weekend, we can't thank you all enough for allowing us to do this for a living. We announced yesterday that us and Shop 412 back in Pittsburgh will be collabing on some merch and some items going forward. We want to take the merch game to a little different level. Still have t-shirts and such, which we are very thankful that people purchase and buy and represent our entire operation.
Starting point is 02:29:54 Every time I see a shirt of ours out in public, I always chat with them and I always tell them, thank you so much for the love. I think all the boys do. We're trying to take it to the next level, next stage, and we're doing shit with Shop 412. To celebrate that, I think we should give away 10 merches. All we have to do is
Starting point is 02:30:10 have something incredible happen. Today, the incredible thing that has to happen, Adam Pacman Jones will have to make a basketball shot from that foul line to that basket. If Adam Pacman Jones is able to do that, we'll give 10 people free merches from store.padmcphyshow.com
Starting point is 02:30:26 as all of the apps that are paying digitally are going through some fuckery right now. We do know that the store will be the quickest and most efficient way to benefit the beautiful people that participate in these giveaways every single day. Adam Pac-Man Jones wearing leather pants today.
Starting point is 02:30:41 He looks so cool. He's had an incredible week. He's been working on this shot, I believe, with Boston Connor. Connor, what are your thoughts on Pac-Man's shot from one foul line to the other hoop? They're pretty good, but that's the one thing that you mentioned. I have not seen him shooting leather pants yet, so I'm interested to see how that's going to affect him. It is 80 degrees outside. Leather pants don't really breathe well, but that's what happens when you're always cool. Cool is the other side of the pillow. Cool is cucumber. What are your thoughts, AJ, on Pac-Man with the moonshot here from the other foul line? I mean, those leather pants are amazing.
Starting point is 02:31:11 Is he still up his ears in? I would imagine my lower body would be sweating profusely if I wore leather pants. He can hear you. You know how fucking cold we keep it in here? Yeah. That's a good point. You're right. Fucking freezing.
Starting point is 02:31:23 What? You're like Dave Letterman, you keep it at 52 degrees I love it What are you guys talking about? You're freezing? Listen, we don't need this soft shit Before we're trying to win 10 people some merches Right now, okay?
Starting point is 02:31:38 80 degrees out Because I'm trying to rep Boston Because the Penguins lost It's three quarter, relax I do like it a little chilly I keep my apartment at 61 Because I'm trying to rep Boston because the Penguins lost. It's three-quarter. Relax. I do like it a little chilly in here. I keep my apartment at 61. I run a little hot. Okay.
Starting point is 02:31:53 Anyways, let's not talk about the temperature. Let's make it a little bit hotter in here. Hell yeah. Yeah. Let's put some swishes through the bucket. Come on, Pac. Pac, if you can make the moonshot from one foul line to the opposite bucket, 10 people, some merches from store.patmacforshow.com, all they're going to do is retweet this video,
Starting point is 02:32:06 say something nice to somebody, and put their cash back. Oh, missed the bonus ball. I thought that was it. No, no bonus ball. No bonus. Didn't bounce back across the table. That's a shame. Could have had a behind-the-back shot.
Starting point is 02:32:16 But instead, we got nothing. That ball's a little flatter than the other. Could get a good bounce off the backboard. Adam Pac-Man Jones attempting the moonshot for 10 people to win some merches. Oh, bonus ball, bonus ball, bonus ball, bonus ball. Oh, the net says no. Oh, man. Grab the pole.
Starting point is 02:32:30 Ladies and gentlemen, all Adam Pac-Man Jones has to do is bury the moonshot here at the Thunderdome. 10 people win some merch as we retweet this video. Say something nice to somebody and... That's why he's short. Leather pants. See, this is what I meant. Leather pants seem to come into. Pac-Man has really cool shoes on as well, AJ.
Starting point is 02:32:49 We kind of let that kind of just slip right by. Galaxy. Leather pants into the shoes with a sweet hoodie. Sweet hoodie. Sweet hoodie. Sweet. Fresh. Cookies.
Starting point is 02:32:59 This one is mighty. Go. Here you go, Pac. Do it. Yeah, this is it. This one's in, Pac. Adam Pacman Jones played 14 years in the NFL at the corner position. Running a 4-2-8 is an incredible athlete.
Starting point is 02:33:12 If he makes this moon shot. Bonus ball, bonus ball, bonus ball. Grab it, grab it, grab it. Nice. Yes. Smart. Still is a bonus ball for the people. If he can make the moons.
Starting point is 02:33:25 Bonus ball, bonus ball, bonus ball, bonus ball, bonus ball. Oh, it came back. The universe said you get another one at this. Adam Pac-Man Jones moonshot. Hold on, there's one more ball. Bonus racquetball. On the bottom of the rack. Oh, my God, it ends.
Starting point is 02:33:38 Holy shit. Holy shit. Wow. That's the money ball right there. Thank you, Joe. Oh, thanks, Joe. Joe Nardo says, this weekend while we go back to Pittsburgh, let's remember that the Doppler dog, DeNardo,
Starting point is 02:33:55 used to roam those streets and those airwaves, sending nothing but positive vibes and great predictions. My prediction is this. Adam Pacman Jones, 14-year NFL corner, is about to bury a moonshot, and 10 people are about to win some merches from store.patmcphyshow.com.
Starting point is 02:34:13 Buzzball, buzzball, buzzball, buzzball. Buzzball. Not a lot of effort. Buzzball. There you go. Do it for Joe, Pat. This is for Joe DiNardo. The Doppler dog. Joe DiNardo. Adam Joe. The Doppler dog. Joe DiNardo.
Starting point is 02:34:26 Adam Pac-Man Jones. Ooh. All right. Bonus ball. Bonus ball. Bonus ball. Yes. All right.
Starting point is 02:34:31 Here we go. There we go. All right. Bonus ball. All right. Here we go. Come on, Pac. Come on.
Starting point is 02:34:36 All Pac's got to do is make the moonshot here. Ten people will win merchants from Stored Up at McAfee Show, Doc. Bonus ball. Bonus ball. Bonus ball. All right. There's another ball. Big time rebound.
Starting point is 02:34:47 This guy has double, double happening. Another one. Another rebound. This guy's got six rebounds. There's some skittles on the floor. And. Ball. Ball.
Starting point is 02:34:57 Ball. Ball. Ball. Ball. Ball. Ball. Ball. Ball.
Starting point is 02:35:02 Ball. Ball. Ball. Ball. Ball. Ball. Ball. Ball.
Starting point is 02:35:02 Ball. Ball. Ball. Ball. Ball. Ball. Ball. Ball.
Starting point is 02:35:03 Ball. Ball. Ball. Ball. Ball. Ball. Ball. Ball.
Starting point is 02:35:04 Ball. Ball. Ball. Ball. Ball. Ball. Ball. Ball.
Starting point is 02:35:04 Ball. Ball. Ball. Ball. Ball. Ball. Ball. Ball. Ball. Ball. Ball. Ball. Ball. Out of Pac-Man Jones. His earpiece has unlatched. He cannot hear anything AJ's saying, but he does know. Ten people. Foul ball. Foul ball. Ten shots, ten people.
Starting point is 02:35:18 Bang. You're there. You're there right now. You're getting rocked. Oh. Foul. Was it halfway down? Oh, my God. You're there. You're there right now. You're getting robbed. Oh. Oh. Was it halfway down? Like seven of them were in.
Starting point is 02:35:35 Good effort. Stick to it. Yep. Right on line, too. He was throwing oops to Big Joe before the show. Yeah, that's what it was. Tech Joe, dude. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:35:51 See, we got a rack. Sweet. Changes the game. All right, that fucking pig. Oh, shit. Too strong. I'm working on it. Can you try to hit the camera that's pointed at you?
Starting point is 02:36:02 AJ. Oh. That's the one. AJ. We're just making it. This camera is's pointed at you. AJ. That's the one. AJ. Or just make it right by the camera. This camera is $250,000. The one that's staring at you. I know.
Starting point is 02:36:10 Just throw one right by it to show your accuracy. Oh! Pretty good. All right. There you go. All right. Let's get out of here. Let's all have an incredible weekend.
Starting point is 02:36:23 Okay? Let's enjoy Nick getting married. Hope you all are incredibly nice to each other. We will miss you tomorrow. Axe Pack is at 430. Yep. Oh, that one almost went in too from our angle. Yeah, it looked good.
Starting point is 02:36:39 Felt like I was going to hit it. It looked very close, yeah. Good thing it didn't. Oh, shook it. It looked very close, yeah. Good thing it didn't. Oh. Oh, shook it. Jeez. I mean, that's mission accomplished. Highest passer rating in the history of Thanksgiving games. Boom.
Starting point is 02:36:53 People forget it. Can. That was a good throw. I'm pretty pumped about that. I assume we broke something up there, though. Yeah, a wire or two. So we'll get that figured out over the weekend. AJ, have a great weekend. We appreciate you. Pac-Man, incredible week. Good luck with the hashtag X-Pac at 4.30 Eastern on Twitter. Tone Diggs,
Starting point is 02:37:10 what a week out of you, pal. You're going to look great on Saturday. I appreciate that. So will you. Ty, you're the man, pal. I appreciate it. Same with you, Connor. Good luck officiating that wedding. Good luck. Everybody in the back, great work. Nick, good luck. Hashtag Axe. How do I pronounce it? Ask. how do i pronounce it ask how do i pronounce it ask
Starting point is 02:37:28 ax ask ask ask a k a k a k s k a cock pack would be also a cock yeah a cock, a cock pack. What are those? The macaques? That monkey crew that I learned about over there? M-A-C-A-Q-U-E, I believe is the name. They're a fucking wild bunch. There's a couple young guns. I think last time we checked in...
Starting point is 02:37:57 They're trying to take over the entire crew. Yeah. So it's not the macaque. It's not a cock. It's axk pack. Can't wait to see the answers you give. Thanks for everything. Big shout out to Chase Elliott for stopping by.
Starting point is 02:38:08 Good luck this weekend. 100,000 to him. His favorite charity. Yes. If he wins the race this weekend. Ian Rappaport for giving us some news but not knowing all the news. But he's the man. And to all of our guests this week, you are the best.
Starting point is 02:38:18 This weekend we celebrate love. Hell yeah. Which we can't help but, you know, kind of echo the sentiment that everybody loves everybody. We all have a lot more in common than we could ever imagine. We all just beat COVID. Let's enjoy this life and let's say nice things to each other.
Starting point is 02:38:37 We're going to Chef Bo's. Goodbye!

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