The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 887 - Jalen Hurts Signs MASSIVE Extension With The Eagles, Ian Rapoport, Shams Charania, Michael Lombardi, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: April 17, 2023

On today’s show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about Nick’s incredible wedding weekend in Pittsburgh, and the big breaking news of the day that Jalen Hurts has signed a MASSIVE new extension wit...h the Eagles that makes him the highest paid player in NFL history. Joining the progrum to chat about the Jalen Hurts deal, whether this expedites the Lamar Jackson deal getting done, CJ Stroud’s draft stock which has seemingly been plummeting in recent days, if Budda Baker is going to get traded after requesting one, and more is NFL Network Senior Insider, Ian Rapoport (20:44-47:17). Next, NBA Insider for Stadium, The Athletic, and co-host of Run It Back on FanDuelTV, Shams Charania joins the show to discuss the NBA playoffs and all the different injury news, when we should expect everyone to be back healthy, and more (1:19:20-1:41:08). Later, 3x Super Bowl Champion, former GM of the Cleveland Browns, author, New York Times best selling, and host of the GM Shuffle Podcast, Michael Lombardi joins the show to chat about all the different tidbits he’s hearing about the NFL Draft, including CJ Stroud, his thoughts on the Jalen Hurts situation, what it means for Lamar, when the Jets and Packers are going to get a deal done for Aaron Rodgers, what he did as a GM when a player requested to be traded and he didn’t want to trade them, and much more (1:55:01-2:19:35). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, beautiful people. Welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this Knicks-married Monday, April 17th, 2023, this sports program starts right now. Maroonos! A lot of Maroonos up here early. Hell yeah. Because myself, the talks at the table at Boston Connor,
Starting point is 00:00:19 and at Ty Schmidt, also one half of the Hammer, and Cowboys Tone Diggs, and all the boys in the back got a chance to celebrate love this weekend. Big congratulations to Big Frank, Sean, Moraldo, Pat, Kathy, Faris, and their children who had a royal wedding inside of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania this past weekend. Unreal. And that's when two families become one. Successfully happened on Saturday. Congratulations to the Marotos and to you, Nick and Carter.
Starting point is 00:00:51 Congrats, guys. Congrats, Nick. Thank you, guys. Thank you to each and every one of you. Pat, you were the best, best man anyone could ever ask for. The speech was absolutely incredible. Well, I really got rolling in there. As I was talking, I was like, I'm motoring right through this thing.
Starting point is 00:01:04 I'm starting to really get going. And then new ideas started coming through. I told you that I worked on that speech like six to seven different times I had goes at that speech. Once was in the shower, like the first time I really went after it was standing in the shower and I started going and I was like, how many songs have you just played? Oh,
Starting point is 00:01:20 seven songs. Okay, that's a little bit long. Yeah, I got a little going to have to cut some stuff out there. Then the next time I went, I think I was sitting in the office maybe taking a shit over here. After it was like ten minutes, I was like, that was pretty good. Let's see what we come up with the next time. Third time, fourth time. Then whenever I got to do it live,
Starting point is 00:01:35 I missed one thing. Only one thing. I was a little bit bummed about that. That was the first time I'd seen you. I could have never guessed how good of a human you would actually be underneath that incredibly toxic outer coat that you have, which did get mentioned. First time I seen him, he reverse stripped some kid with four books in his hands walking through the high school. You know what I mean? Just like straight out of a movie. I was a freshman, just got to high school. People did know who I was coming into high school. So I was a little bit anxious about going into high
Starting point is 00:02:04 school, about how will people react to me as a human. People knew me around there. Could get beat up, could get bullied. Would contain myself and hold my own. Would be very comfortable. But I didn't know what it was going to be like. First day, I'm walking around. This fucking guy, sophomore in front of us,
Starting point is 00:02:19 hits a kid that I did not know, but he was walking in front of me in my class, definitely. Four books, and I laugh pretty hysterically. And then I think to myself, oh, shit, that could be me. Right, sure. From that moment all the way through today, I've never read a book. Because Nick Moraldo was a fucking bully to a kid right in front of me. So congrats to you, Nick.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Thanks, man. Glad I could do that for you. Real good guy. Nick was a fucking bully there for a little bit. I mean, sometimes you got to knock some books out. That's a classic move. Yeah, come on. I mean, back in the day, that shit was very just normal.
Starting point is 00:02:50 They took our backpacks away. Everybody's just carrying around loose football around the hallways. Couldn't have it. Yeah, and when people were also out there, I mean, ball security is job security. Yeah, you got to try it. Do it to your friends. You try to tell a couple kids to do it.
Starting point is 00:03:02 I don't know if that kid was Nick's friend, to be clear. I'm not 100% sure. I know I didn't know the guy. Well, Nick was a bully. Nick was a bully. Well, he was teaching kids ball security. I mean, you got to put that thing high and tight, maybe hold it close to the chest.
Starting point is 00:03:13 I think that kid was never going to play a sport. I thought it was Ezekiel. No, but I would assume that kid got back at Nick. Nick and his group of friends were a hysterical group of humans. Got to see a lot of them. Got to see all the generations and ages of friends that we've kind of had and Nick has had. There was one era that I kind of missed
Starting point is 00:03:29 whenever they lived in the super Italian area. Yeah, whenever I was here. So I got to meet some people, too, that I heard stories from. Aunt Tina, Nick's aunt, made this cookie table, Pittsburgh cookie table. It was obviously a tradition. So good.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Where it's just like a shit ton of cookies. This one lady cooked them all. That is not normal. Normally you buy them. You do this other stuff. Aunt Tina baked probably 2,000 cookies. Crushed it. Dog.
Starting point is 00:03:54 It was unbelievable. Some lock eyes. The decoration's beautiful. I mean, it was hot as fuck in there. The air conditioner broke the day. That's what's going to happen when people have weddings. But who cares? The outside venue was even nicer than the inside venue.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Yeah. And it was perfect. It was an incredible weekend. You guys should be very, very proud of yourselves, I think. And whoever did a majority of the planning of that. Well, you know who did that. Which I believe is your wife now. And first wedding person.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Yeah. A-2? A-1. A-1. A-1. Susie. Susie. Susie. Thank you. A-1. Susie. Susie. Susie.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Thank you. Shout out Susie. Shout out Susie. Susie was a wedding day planner, director, executor thing. Her executive. And she was a good human. Felt like she had good intentions. Felt like she understood everything that was going on.
Starting point is 00:04:41 We're not an easy crew just to tell exactly what to do. We get it. We know what we're supposed to be doing. And we just to tell exactly what to do. We get it. We know what we're supposed to be doing. And we'll get it right. Like, we'll get it right. And we're not going to be any disrespectful, even though you could do some research on the internet and think that we would be big-time assholes at these things.
Starting point is 00:04:53 It's like, yo, I think seven out of eight of us had tears in our eyes whenever Nick was getting married. Oh, yeah. Connor did an incredible job. He did. So good. Crushed it. Absolutely unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:05:04 He did an absolutely incredible job, Connor, and we'll dive into that in a little bit. But A1, Susie, very nice to us. All of a sudden, mid-rehearsal, out of nowhere, this blonde one shows up. Yeah. Who the hell are you? All right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Five-star general. She was literally talking to me in the middle of this rehearsal, like we're just kind of standing there and they're eyeballing it and it's going to be a completely different spot anyways because there isn't anything set up. So they're trying to figure out all the mathematics of it. It's cool. We're just having a quick conversation over here. She comes over.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Boom. Pops out of nowhere. Maybe out of the bathroom. I don't even know where she came from. We had not seen her for the hour, hour and a half that we were there. She comes in. All right. Shoulder.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Shoulder width apart is where your feet will be. Hand. Left over right. Lock it in. Let's go. And we're like, lady, who are you? Carly, is this a member of your family? This is one of the wedding day planner executors.
Starting point is 00:05:54 So is this a good cop, bad cop situation? Or are you just a miserable human? We didn't see her yet again until she took our bottle of Jameson. She took our bottle of Jameson wedding day. This lady comes in, give me that. Not allowed to have that. Who are you? It's a groom. Who is this lady? So then the other wedding person obviously goes and grabs that thing for us. We had a great time. We did. Great time. Unbelievable. But boy, that came out of nowhere. I did not expect that second wedding
Starting point is 00:06:17 lady to yell at us. I'd say that was the only time where I felt uncomfortable through four days. And I think that's an impossible task to pull off in 2023 when it comes to weddings, especially with how many fucking people were there. They did a great job, Ty. Yeah, it was unbelievable. Like you mentioned, too, the venue. I mean, it almost felt like they were getting married
Starting point is 00:06:37 in like the 1920s or something. That atrium underneath there, the old train station, you know, like I've been to Pittsburgh a couple times, but obviously not intimate with like the certain, you know, but you go in there, the old train station. I've been to Pittsburgh a couple times, but obviously not intimate with the certain, but you go in there, the architecture of it, it really was. It felt like you were transported into another time, and the weather was beautiful on top
Starting point is 00:06:54 of it. It would just, I mean... Follow up, Nick, the suits, toxins, sorry. We're so sick. Top notch. Clean. Top notch. I'm glad you guys liked them, dude. You guys looked like a million bucks out there. You did. You did. Look how, I mean, you looked fantastic. Obviously, shout out to Carly for getting you that watch right before you came out there. This dude was taking links out of a watch the day of his wedding.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Tiny little hammer. Tiny little thing was taking links out of this watch, put it on his hand. It looked remarkable. The setup was great. Bride looked wonderful. Oh, yeah. She looked very happy, right? I mean, she was beyond ecstatic with how everything went,
Starting point is 00:07:27 and she was very thankful for you guys for all the support and everything. Tears, tears from both Nick and Bride. Yeah, it was nice. Which is good. Good. I was bawling like a baby. Have to. You looked awesome.
Starting point is 00:07:39 That was a cool moment to see. You know? Seeing the whole family. Seeing everybody back from Plum was great. You know what everybody said, though? What's that whole family, seeing everybody back from Plum was great. A lot of people, yeah. You know what everybody said, though? What's that? The guy that isn't from Plum, Connor. Well, that's not true, but.
Starting point is 00:07:51 What isn't true? I am from Plum. We all know this. We can give it up now. You're at a We're All Mustangs Here fun meeting. Bingo. Exactly. Giving back to my community.
Starting point is 00:08:00 And did you make a sandwich at Rudy's Subs? Yeah, I believe I did. Steak and cheese. Thanks a lot. Did you swing by the high school? I actually didn't get a chance to swing by the high school. Oh, for gays. Interesting. We had some other commitments and obviously, you know, the most important thing was that we are all
Starting point is 00:08:15 Mustangs Fund meeting. Obviously, I had to be there. That was a fun thing to kind of figure out about. Yeah, it was. So we've given $1.6 million back to Plum, pretty much. Just found that out. Just a good bit. Went through the sales spreadsheet. Phil had a CFO, Phil, who looks so fucking awesome. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:31 He had a flavor saver at the barbershop the day of. So everybody saw that photo of him with that fucking mustache, and he's properly jocked right now. He is properly jocked. Properly jocked right now because he's getting ready for a triathlon, so he's been swimming. He's been adding upper body into his life as opposed to just, I'm going to run and run and run and run. So he is like properly jocked right now because he's getting ready for a triathlon. So he's been swimming. He's been adding upper body into his life as opposed to just, I'm going to run and run and run and run. So he is like
Starting point is 00:08:47 properly jocked right now. So he looks so cool. He had a flavor saver that I guess the barbers shout out to Mr. Mr. Unbelievable. That was an incredible barbershop. That was an incredible barbershop. That was a cool moment. Nick
Starting point is 00:09:03 running out of barbershop day off so everybody can get some lineups and haircuts and everything like that. Great move. Especially at Mr. Mister. That place was awesome. Yeah. Only complaint. And you had an Iron City at 10 a.m. A couple of them.
Starting point is 00:09:16 You weren't the only one. There was a lot of people. A red eye, too. We're not talking light here. We're talking straight out of the Allegheny fucking red eye. Which was right across the street from where we were staying. It was beautiful where we were staying. Ox cord on fire.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Oh, my God. No marshmallow, but flames. Yeah, that was interesting. Certainly a conversation. The guy that owns the barbershop alongside of his wife, the guy, maybe coolest looking human. No offense to Back Porch Barber, our barber, who's a cool looking person.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Or anybody that works down at that coffee shop downtown that was near our old house. Quills. Or Quills. I've seen some cool looking person or anybody that works down at that coffee shop downtown that was near our old house or Quills. I've seen some cool looking humans I feel like over the last couple years. You know what I'm talking about. Sweet tats. Hair is always great. The shirt and pants combo, not normal but sweet. And then there's boots
Starting point is 00:09:58 or great shoes on there. I've seen incredible looking humans. Earrings, gauges, weird placed earrings. Okay, that happens gauges, weird placed earrings. Yep. Okay, that happens. It's like, you look so fucking cool. I want to let you know, this is what you're attempting to do.
Starting point is 00:10:10 You pulled it off. You look so cool. This dude, Michael, that owns Mr. Mr. Might be the coolest fucking guy. Coolest looking guy I've ever seen in my life. Unbelievable. Had a pierced cheekbone. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Right here. Like a stud. Diamond. Perfect hair. Yeah, he gave it to you Like a stud. Diamond. Perfect hair. Yeah, he gave it to you. He didn't give me his hair, but how could you with how perfect his fucking hair was? I did have to redo my hair after he did my hair because he thought that I was as cool looking as him. I am not.
Starting point is 00:10:38 I need to do different stuff than what you're doing with your hair. He had these tats. The way he decked. So cool. The sunglasses. Yeah. Dude, he had The way he did it, so cool. The sunglasses? Yeah. Dude, he had the Six Flags. Yeah, Six Flags guy. The Six Flags guy. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da He looks so cool. So he had Nick in the middle of it. There were six barbers, pretty much. And the one that did Phil, back corner,
Starting point is 00:11:09 said that CFO Phil's face was the hardest face he's ever had to shave in his life. Because Phil's, first of all, he's had a full beard since like sixth grade. That's what Phil is. Five O'Clock Shadow is actually about Phil. Like shaves in the morning, has a beard by the afternoon. And his hair grows in every different direction. Like if he was one of those wrestlers, or like an MMAma person his face would be able to be used as a weapon because of
Starting point is 00:11:30 how fucked up all of his hair is and how strong it is hell yeah so this guy plucked every fucking piece of hair off this guy's face pretty much tweezers and neck and then whenever it was able to do it because if you would have just shaved i guess would have broke it would have been like irritated to fuck so this guy's plucking his face he has a flavor saver at one point he looks like the anonymous mask the v for vendetta mask yeah sure he looks so cool so cool so cool and then i think the barber just shaved it literally i we haven't been able to point blame at anybody yet phil was supposed to look cooler than this somehow. Yep. And Phil didn't say no. Phil's wife didn't say no.
Starting point is 00:12:08 I don't think Nick said no. We were all yelling yes. I don't think any of us said no. And then all of a sudden, I go back there two minutes later, he's just got a really awesome mustache. Right. So Phil could have had a brand-new Phil face and looked even better, but he was the one to put the Excel spreadsheet together
Starting point is 00:12:23 for the We're All Mustangs Here Fund because he's boots on the ground back there, as is Keith Nonenberg, who is currently a coach or a teacher in Plum, was whenever I was in Plum as well. And then Eddie Edwards, who's now an agent, was my first agent from Plum High School. He was back in town. So we had a meeting, like a pseudo yearly annual meeting for the We're All Mustangs Here Fund, which is a fund that we put together to kind of give money back to the athletes of Plum. We've given thus far $800,000 to the youth leagues in Plum. Nice.
Starting point is 00:12:50 The Plum Youth Football League has gone on to win a couple championships. Let's go. Let's go. I think there's a lot of participation up, which is what we're kind of hoping for. New gear, new everything. Like, hoping more kids play sports and stick with sports. Like, hey, you come play sports, you get sweet shoes. Hey, you come play sports, you get sweet jumpsuits.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Hey, you come play sports, you're going to be able to have like the greatest technology that you could possibly have. Hey, if you come play sports, you can be able to have everything that other people are able to have and more in plumb. That was kind of the goal of it. $855,000 to the high school. That's cool. Yeah, the teams.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Yeah, it's been pretty interesting. We've got a new athletic director there. We have not really worked with the school much. We've been through three athletic directors, I think, since we have launched our fund. Yeah, and that's why we handle it all. We don't let Plum really handle any of it. No offense to anybody in Plum.
Starting point is 00:13:40 A lot of great people in Plum. And that's what I was about to say about the wedding. I got to meet so many people that have kids at the high school or kids coming up through the thing. And everybody was so incredibly kind to me and nice. And it's like, hey, we're making a real impact over there. And CFO Phil is the boots on the ground for that entire thing.
Starting point is 00:13:56 So not only does he look cool, but he's also the one that kind of has to manage all of it. He came in at Excel spreadsheet. I was like, holy fucking Connor was like, we've given how much back to our high school? I'm like, Connor, you did not go to our high school. And 700,000, I think, went to the hockey team, right? Well, that is interesting, because Phil is the coach of the hockey team. He had to send a request
Starting point is 00:14:11 into the fund. Yeah, they have the best coaching gear, you can say. No, see, the coach's gear has actually been quite an issue with this fund. What? You know, that is what we have learned. We've had to put on a little bit more guidelines, yeah. Because we either have the coach or the booster, head of the booster, be the one to put in a request or just send an email. do you want how do you want it why do you want it how do you think this makes athletes lives better which is like the main important thing and
Starting point is 00:14:32 then they send it in there and then they have to get a quote from a place on how much it would cost for what they want it which we should have known this we're too naive at the beginning had to transfer it into two quotes because there was actually companies in plum that all of a sudden were like i don't want to say getting started but kind of starting businesses and it's like a quota for the year yeah yeah okay all right we had to get a couple different quotes but we've been able to help a lot of businesses i think uh and with the quotes being able to make it a competitive and kind of use as much money as possible to give the kids as opposed to businesses and let adults fuck it up which is kind of what we've been trying to get in there. It has been a remarkable journey and I'm very pumped about it.
Starting point is 00:15:09 That was one of the greatest feelings I've had whenever I learned what all we've been able to do. Yeah. I see it all and I kind of look at every email, but they're kind of handling it, you know, like they're kind of a part of it. If I see something I don't like, like a tone from a coach in an email or something like that. Or like a $200,000 parka
Starting point is 00:15:26 or something that they might want. Yeah, bingo. Yeah, there's some coaches that have been like, hey, we need, all our coaches need new, whatchamacallit, here's the top of the line stuff, we want to look cool. It's like, I understand that, but also like, in the spirit of the fund here, like, let's spend some of that
Starting point is 00:15:42 money, maybe let's not get it all, we'll figure it out as we go some people just assume that we're going to pay for stuff so they ran up a tab and then just said hey we need reimburse for this, that ain't how it works so we can't do it, we're not like a loan for you either, we'll be making decisions around here with our money
Starting point is 00:15:57 but also go do whatever you gotta do there was one place we paid for them to go take like big bus I think and hotel because they made it to States, which is exactly what should happen. And they had the right idea. And once again, this is none of the students. It's always just the adults that fuck everything up, it seems like.
Starting point is 00:16:12 They needed to tip the bus driver that I got, obviously, that we got for them. So they sent another follow-up email day of, hey, can we get 100 more bucks so we can do it? It's like, hey, can you guys find? You guys could probably scratch together 100 bucks. There's 50 people on there. Can we give two bucks each? So it's like all those little things that we're kind of figuring out. CFO Phil,
Starting point is 00:16:32 Keith, and Eddie are kind of navigating so incredibly well. I'm very, very proud of it, and I think we're going to continue to help out Plum for a long, long time. Hey, listen, if you're in sports in the Pittsburgh area, you're pretty good. Come on in.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Don't be scared to move into Plum. Hell yeah. We got some good shit going. Wouldn't mind taking care of you. Have a good time. Now, the coaches might not have the top of the line, you know, jackets on. Sure. You know, so that would be a little bit. That might change.
Starting point is 00:16:59 And, you know, bus drivers on buses might not get tipped, I guess. Yeah, maybe. Probably, you guess, properly. But there is real growth happening. I'm very proud of it. And Connor was there for the whole meeting. Even had input. Wow.
Starting point is 00:17:15 So Connor had input in the meeting on how the funds go, and as did my wife. It's a real team effort. You are an honorary Mustang. Wow. I can't believe you just said that. I appreciate that very much. Yeah, honorary is the real thing, though, because you're not actually from there. No, no. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:17:24 So I just said you just said that. I appreciate that. Yeah, honorary is the real thing, though, because you're not actually from there. No, no. Oh, no. I thought you were saying. So I just said you were still wrong. I thought you were saying honorary member of your class, but I'm still a member of the Mustang community. But the one thing, too. There was five different classes of Mustangs at this wedding. Yeah. What grade did Mark graduate?
Starting point is 00:17:37 Do we know? I think he was right before my time. So I think he was 2008. All right. 2009. There was yours. There was mine. There was my brother's, there was Billy's little brother.
Starting point is 00:17:48 There's like eight generations of Mustangs out there. That's a lot. Hey, baby Nick, we love you, pal. Hell yeah. Hey, boy, Nick. Thank you, pal. Appreciate it. Thank all you guys for coming. Everybody played a little part. Everybody had a little fun time. Diggs for standing up there with me as well. Zeke got to introduce everybody at the reception. He got everybody's
Starting point is 00:18:04 name right. That was big. Fox, he was doing some videography work and Bruce was getting drunk back there. Yeah, Bruce was handling vibes though. I mean, it was good to see Bruce. Bruce also was pissed because he thought he was going to be the one cutting the cake for Nick and Carly. So he actually started crying
Starting point is 00:18:19 at the table. Bruce does cut a good cake. How did we how did he get to that point? Nick lied to him? Well, no. Bruce was kind of moping all week like, well, everybody else in the office has something to do for your wedding. What am I going to do? And then he kind of shouldered in and basically said like,
Starting point is 00:18:35 hey, actually, you know what? We didn't have bygones be bygones. I'll just cut the cake for you with Carly. You can stand up there next to me, but I'll cut the cake. I'll put it in her mouth. I'll do all that kind of stuff, and then I'll be okay with everything that happened. That's awesome. Shout out Bruce then for that. This is kind of vicious bullying
Starting point is 00:18:52 that started at Palm High School in that hallway. What are you talking about? Whoa, whoa, whoa! I was never part of that. I was nice to everybody. I was just kind of do-si-do-ing through my day mostly. Bruce, we appreciate you being there and being good vibes. Foxy was stepping on toes with the wedding video person a little bit.
Starting point is 00:19:09 A little bit. Yeah, that's always going to happen. I was watching little interactions because they were in the middle of taking photos of Nick and Carly, the professional photographers and professional video people. They were doing their thing, and it was outside the venue taking pictures. Lights were still out. Cocktail hour. I believe DJ Griff was on the piano killing it crushing him and dj dj absolutely killed ripped
Starting point is 00:19:29 it up but to get the video guy was making his own video okay and then the camera person was doing their thing then here comes evan foxy drinking hand sunglasses on looks so cool so cool he takes his iphone and he walks right up and then he walks all the way back. And then he just walked away or whatever. And I'm like, oh, yes. And I watched it. I looked at the cameraman. Cameraman does like, what's that guy all about? And then gets back into his job.
Starting point is 00:19:55 And then they got two more hours of photos. And Foxy's back on the drinking scene already. Can't wait to see what you put together, Foxy. Yeah, Nick asked me to get a couple quick videos. But yeah, Nick already posted some of that guy's videos. He does great work. I actually said the Instagram story that Nick had up. I was like, I'm stealing that concept.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Great concept. So I don't know why everyone's got to be all. Foxy steals this guy's shot. And now he's stealing his thoughts. That's my fault. I asked Foxy to take a video or two for me because I didn't want to be on my phone all day. But I didn't warn the other video guy. Oh, there's always beef there.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Yikes. There shouldn't be. He looked at a huge part after Foxy did his whole entire thing while he was walking by the guy. He said, that's how you do a jump. Well, kind of, with those glasses. You were over there. I never said that. I heard him say that.
Starting point is 00:20:40 And Foxy just wearing a fucking t-shirt to a wedding. He looked so cool. Alright, joining us now is a man who would have came to the wedding, but he didn't. Right. Nope. He was invited to the wedding, didn't come to the wedding, which is alarming because it was an open bar. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:54 And this guy loves those things. There was a lot of who's who at this wedding as well. Yeah. A ton of them. This man could have made Mark Madden a new source of his. This man could have made Ruppden a new source of his. This man could have made Ruppert a new source of his. This man could have made AQ, Pac-Man, D-Bud, Ty Schmidt, and many others his new source. But instead, he rode horses because that's one of his jobs.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Ladies and gentlemen, senior insider for the NFL, the network that the NFL owns, the website that the NFL owns, and the streaming service, NFL Plus! Host of the Insider Show, which is a t-shirt punditry driven show by the insiders of the NFL Network, he, Tom Pelissero, and Garofalo, who broke massive news
Starting point is 00:21:37 this morning. Host of the weekly wrap-up of Rap Sheet and Friends, us being friends, he being Rap Sheet. Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rapport. Ian, didn't see you at the wedding. Very nice of you. Do you want us to tell Nick to go fuck himself or would you like to say that now? I was not invited. And I know you said on the show...
Starting point is 00:21:53 No, hold on. You saying to me on Thursday like, hey, you should come. That's not an invite. You know what an invite is? Save the date. Oh, you want a whole song and dance? Come on. We're not recruiting you, okay?, you want a whole song and dance? Come on. We're not recruiting you.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Okay? Do you want to come or not? Save the date. You got to save the date first. Then you get the invite. You RSVP. There is a method behind this. Not here. I would have come.
Starting point is 00:22:15 I wasn't doing anything. I would have come. There's numerous chairs available. Tech Joe came in sweats. That's right. I mean, there was a lot of... Anybody could have came. I mean...
Starting point is 00:22:24 How was the food, by the way? Phenomenal. Yeah, it was very good. Very good. There was a cookie cake or a cookie table, too. Game changer. They were unbelievable. I was eating shit that I don't normally like. Oh, what's that? Coconut cookie? I hate coconut. Let me see that thing.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Oh, my God. It's delightful. There was another one that I tried. Pumpkin roll, maybe? Oh, yeah. Pumpkin Swiss Roll. That's her best work, too, that Pumpkin Roll. I normally am not a big Pumpkin Swiss Roll. His Italian aunt, Aunt Tina, I guess saying his Italian would be kind of double. I asked his dad right before I spoke to him at the thing.
Starting point is 00:22:59 I said, hey, Frank, are you 100% Italian? He goes, no, my parents moved over here. I'm like, oh, but you are a hundred percent italian he's like yeah yeah but i'm not from italy that's how fucking yeah italian that's great yeah you know that was the answer he gave that family was stupendous you missed a great one and you said fuck you to nick and carly you were invited yep i mean that's just fine we'll hold this over your head. AJ didn't come either. So don't worry about it. That's a much bigger conversation that's coming down the road. Let's talk about what you broke this morning, though, alongside Tom Pelissero.
Starting point is 00:23:32 We have some questions about the numbers. We haven't talked about it literally until you got on here because you and Tom were the ones that broke some of the biggest news that this offseason is going to see. Jalen Hurts agrees to a five-year extension with the Philadelphia Eagles worth $170-some million at signing, and then $255 million in total in this tweet, and then in another tweet it said $274 million. What is the actual number? How does this whole thing go? And what are your thoughts on this deal happening before Herbert, before Burrow, and obviously before Lamar Jackson, Ian Rappaport? Okay, let's get to the numbers first
Starting point is 00:24:09 because all of those numbers are right. There's just different ways to look at it, different ways to digest it. It is a contract extension. So he's already got one year in the books. You add five more. The value of those five next year is basically, like any extension, pre-negotiating your next contract.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Five years, $255,000. So then you add that to the one year that he's already got. You put all of that together, and that's how you get the $260,000, whatever number that is. $255,000. Right. That's how you get the $255,000 number that Tom mentioned. There's also the incentives, $15 million in incentives. So the total value could be $274.3 million through 2028. That includes all of the money.
Starting point is 00:24:55 On the extension, the important numbers are $255 million, which is $51 million per year. The new highest paid player in NFL history. Congratulations, Joe. Which we deserve. Almost $180 million per year. The new highest paid player in NFL history. Congratulations, Joe. Which we deserve. Almost $180 million in guarantees. That includes injury guarantees. Money he's going to get if he's injured and for some reason can't play. $110 million fully guaranteed at signing.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Those are the key numbers for this deal. It is a really, really nice deal. It sets a new bar. Also, as always with contracts, especially a quarterback contract, probably means that Burrow and Herbert are going to go next and over him. That's just the way it works, which is why I think for the Eagles, getting it done before those guys was imperative, and it also leaves room for them to build, which I know, you know, around him, which is something that was important to Jalen.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Okay, so let's follow up on a couple of these. As soon as they get to the Super Bowl, they decide that they're going to do this with him because he's a second-rounder on a rookie contract. This kind of came out of nowhere and have Nicole, I believe, from Clutch Sports. Shout out. Shout out. Agent Nicole Lynn, I believe, is the social media handle. I should have done a little bit more research.
Starting point is 00:26:06 She's a dog. Her and the Philadelphia Eagles have been talking for how long and how have we not known about any of this? I feel like that's rather large news. Her and the Eagles have been talking for probably about two months. I think the Eagles identified probably pretty early on last season when like you know, Jalen finished
Starting point is 00:26:30 really strong the previous year so 2021 and there was some, you know, I remember talking on our pregame show like the Eagles view Jalen as a franchise quarterback. They probably knew at the end of last year and then we all could tell like the public like he was balling,
Starting point is 00:26:45 like this guy was good. And so it's like, all right, well, if he's that good, second rounder only has one year left, he's going to get paid. So I think they identified this pretty early. They've been talking for a couple months. It's been, you know, somewhat intense negotiations, but very amicable, like it's, you know, this is big money you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:27:05 It is something we've kind of known that was like on the radar because when Jeffrey Lurie was talking to us at the owner's meeting, he said a jail encounter could get done fairly soon. And that was about two and a half weeks ago. So what'd you get? Was that all off the record? He said that on the record? No, on the record. How did we miss that? It was kind of at the end of the own. I think he spoke last and talked to only the Philadelphia local media. And so it kind of did go under the radar a little bit. We should have got that.
Starting point is 00:27:37 That's something we should have caught. Right now, Gumpy's up in Canada going, How the fuck did I miss that? How did I miss that? So congrats to Jalen, obviously, and the Eagles, and agent Nicole Lynn for being a fucking boss there. Largest contract in the history of the NFL. I believe
Starting point is 00:27:51 largest contract a female has ever negotiated, ever. In sports. Obviously, in sports, we apologize. Obviously, there's hundreds of billions of dollars happening out there. The next conversation is an easy one to have immediately upon seeing Jalen get paid. Lamar Jackson's deal, right?
Starting point is 00:28:09 This is just, now this is what Baltimore will just say, hey, here's the deal. He's made it to a Super Bowl. You haven't. We still have a lot of faith in you. He's getting paid much earlier than you are. Here's the deal. Is that kind of how this is going to work? And is that how we see this happening?
Starting point is 00:28:26 how this is going to work and is that how we see this happening so last year before the season the Ravens offered Lamar Jackson a deal that in APY so average per year based on new money did not match this this is 51 that was 50 but you know yeah 133 guaranteed versus 174 guaranteed right yeah yeah a lot of other well that it's 133 fully guaranteed versus 110 fully guaranteed in Jalen's deal. So actually, like, the Ravens deal compares pretty nicely to this deal. Interesting. Actually. So whenever we read that one, it said $177 million. And whenever we read the Lamar report, which is only coming out from the Ravens side, which we assume is accurate, it said $133.
Starting point is 00:29:03 So that seems to be $41 million off, but you're saying that. So they're actually, let me, let me find it. So there's a person, what's your name? Sarah Ellison on the Twitter. Shout out Sarah. Who actually kind of broke it down based on it's SG Ellison. If you want to look, I believe her breakdown comparing the two deals is accurate.
Starting point is 00:29:24 If you want to throw it up here at some point. Yeah, it's in a second right now. This is I do believe the Ravens will probably adjust and use this to help get Lamar done. But the deal they offered him was pretty strong. I mean, look at those
Starting point is 00:29:40 numbers. So total value. 200 million? Lamar Jackson's total guarantee was 200 million? We know that? I believe that is... I believe that that includes a kicker that would have kicked it
Starting point is 00:29:56 in year two, but obviously you're not going to cut him after one year, so I believe that is essentially the total guarantee. I don't think we've ever heard that. That was the discussion we had between the virtual and the actual guarantee, and that's what we were saying. It was like a $65 million difference between what was actually guaranteed and then what the number they were saying.
Starting point is 00:30:14 I don't know. It was $200 million was the guarantee. Now it feels like we've gotten a lot wrong. The Ravens have offered Lamar Jackson $200 million guaranteed? Yeah. That's news. I don't know why I'm reacting like... Why do we suck so bad?
Starting point is 00:30:32 You hear me? How do we suck so fucking bad? We missed the jail and Lori said a deal was coming around corner and we just didn't even listen to it and then Lamar's thing happened. He said $133 million without an agent. It was never like, hey, they offered me $200 million. $200 million? We're going to change a lot.
Starting point is 00:30:48 The $133 million was on a shorter deal. I believe that was on a three-year deal. That's news. We did not hear that. $133 million over three years? That's not a bad deal. That's not a bad deal at all, business-wise, if we wanted to talk. That seems like not a bad
Starting point is 00:31:03 idea for what's going on.s are these confirmed yeah what's going on sg ellison's hey we need to start following sg ellison yeah how come that was a good i do believe i'd have to look at uh jalen's deal i've not seen like the actual deal but i believe those numbers are accurate i ran them by someone who would very much know and they said, yes, these are accurate. I'd like to go on the record, and I think Lamar's a six-year. This is a five-year extension, though, with one year left, so that'd be six years altogether.
Starting point is 00:31:34 So his was on a six-year deal. Here we go. Baltimore beat down March 14th. Lamar Jackson turned down a $200 million guaranteed deal back in September. Lamar Jackson uses a cap gift that seems to say that's bullshit. So what are you talking about, Ian? And we don't know her, S.G. Ellison.
Starting point is 00:31:50 That was breaking news until now we hear from the other side. It says, ah, cap, cap, cap, cap, cap, cap, cap, bullshit, I believe is what happens here. First of all, is that what that, I have trouble reading the gifts. I'm not 100% sure what that is. See, you're a part of the problem of why people think people are racist whenever they use your gifs you know what i mean because you're like oh i don't get it what do you mean maybe the gift means like why would i have accepted that like come on bro like you know no he has a bunch of caps on rap lamar jackson turned down 200 million guaranteed back in september cap cap cap cap cap cap cap, cap, cap, cap. God.
Starting point is 00:32:28 I was saying, like, I believe the guarantees is like that would have kicked in in the second year. So I don't know that it was 200 guaranteed upon signing. I believe there was like a later year trigger if I remember correctly. So it's right and it's not right. Like, literally everything else
Starting point is 00:32:44 with contracts. Okay, so we would like it to be known. Well, remember you changed the way you reported contracts when Aaron Rodgers' deal came out. That's right. Because of the learning that I've done on the Pat McAfee Show. Well, not the learning, just like, hey, you kind of put guys in a bad spot with their family, their friends, their community, their team, their fans.
Starting point is 00:32:57 I mean, whenever you, you know what I mean? Like there's a lot of things whenever you're just throwing out a lot of these numbers. But to learn that he turned down $200 million, which from our GIF readings, appears to be cap, cap, cap, cap, cap, cap, cap, cap, cap, cap, cap, cap, cap. Not true. But we might be wrong. We don't know. But if that was the
Starting point is 00:33:12 case, we'd like to let the Ravens know that we've been on your side. If you offered $200 million and then more money, $50 million guaranteed on there, or $50 million a year average, that's a good deal. Lamar should accept it. Doesn't sound like Lamar thinks that's what happened, but maybe there's a miscommunicationication hopefully they'll be able to get it figured out with jaylen's deal speaking to lamar connor has a question for you rap yeah rap sheet is it true
Starting point is 00:33:31 the report from michael lombardi that lamar went to the ravens and said hey go get d hop and obj and the ravens went back and say hey we can't afford both but you know we'll get obj done is that real and then do you think that also helps the fact that lamar hasn't yet signed his franchise tag and that now might uh i i had not heard that i'm not saying it's wrong uh because i know they consider both players so i didn't know if i mean if that's true that makes sense i just can't independently confirm that because i do know that you know obviously lamar wanted odell they paid Odell a lot of money. I mean, it's a really strong deal for Odell, and I think it's a strong sign for Lamar, if that is true, that they are listening and obviously want to give him weapons.
Starting point is 00:34:16 You know, the Diop thing, I imagine they considered it. I don't know that it got much traction. Because that's one where it's like if you're you know if if you're DeAndre Hopkins and you know your contract's going to get adjusted like that probably affects the trade price you know how much would the Cardinals have been willing to to trade him for like it's the trade is more complicated so I do know the Ravens considered it but if that was at Lamar's request, I think that would make sense, too. Odell Beckham Jr. to the Ravens,
Starting point is 00:34:49 $15 million, $18 million in total. Seems like they were very driven to sign Odell Beckham, right? As opposed to everybody else. That was the biggest offer he got, definitely. Okay, sweet. Lamar and him are at a bar down there in Miami celebrating afterwards, and we don't know if that's cap, cap, cap, cap, cap, cap, cap, biggest offer he got definitely okay sick okay sweet lamar and him are at a bar yeah you know
Starting point is 00:35:05 down there in miami celebrating afterwards and we don't know if that's cap cap cap cap cap cap cap or not but we did hear that his thoughts on what was the offer you know this is another thing where like an agent an agent would be able to just get this hey lamar i drew rosenhouse came on the show and pitched being your agent right and we've said this a couple different times. Listen, you negotiate your own deal however the hell you want to do it. It's your business, okay? We're buying the fucking entire gym, the TEG. That's right.
Starting point is 00:35:33 We're buying the entire gym. Hell yeah. We'd like to support you and everything. If you could just give us some details of shit, you know, that would be 133, three years fully guaranteed, but I need an agent. Yeah, that's from that tweet, right? That's from the same day, I think, the whole thing happened. With your tweet that came out.
Starting point is 00:35:50 I mean, that's not a... And he'd be able to double dip, what, he'd be 29? At the time, yeah. And if it's fully guaranteed, three years of money, 100-some million. And it should have got up to 150, though. Probably when he was thinking 140. I don't know, what are you thinking? I think that. Probably when he was thinking 140. I don't know. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:36:05 I think that probably is what he was thinking. Oh, well, this is all from March 14th. So if you could just, um, Lamar, if you could just sprinkle some information to anybody,
Starting point is 00:36:15 doesn't have to be us. Literally anybody. Cause Lamar Jackson, entertainment, I seven, seven, five, right.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Was going to release a video a couple of weeks ago, and we were going to potentially know everything that happened. It never came out. So if you would like to just tell us where we're wrong or wherever, whoever. You remember that? Yeah. That did never come out, right? Dude, I was so excited. I was like very pumped. I'm like, alright, this dude's fucking handling his business. Audio's okay. Here we go. We're able to do this.
Starting point is 00:36:38 We haven't got anything because that video's never been released. So like, kind of an interesting spot here for this whole thing. If you'd like to tell us, please tell us. Well, listen, help your case. Ian, why don't you reach out to him and get some information like you do to these agents? Yeah, there you go. Why don't you fucking do your job?
Starting point is 00:36:54 Why don't you do your job, Ian? I have tried. I have tried. Also, why? He should have been at the club with him and OBJ. I would go to the club. Why aren't the Ravens pounding the drum of $200 million too? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Like, hey, we offered this guy $200 million. Why isn't that what they say every single week? Standard NFL contract. That is a good question. And I believe the answer is they really like Lamar. They really, really like him. Oh, so they're not trying to rub anything publicly. Like, they basically sort of like organizationally,
Starting point is 00:37:28 and this is my feel from dealing and talking with them, they don't want to go back and forth and prove something against him because they like him. And they want him to sign long-term, and they want this to be over, and they want him to be their quarterback. So there's no point in that. They may lose the public battle, but as long as they want this to be over, and they want him to be their quarterback, so there's no point in that. They may lose the public battle, but as long as they win the Lamar battle and that he still likes him and wants to be their quarterback, that's kind of the biggest win.
Starting point is 00:37:55 I think that's why they haven't spoken out, because it doesn't really do them any good with the player. Okay, let's pivot away from Lamar and Baltimore, and congrats to Jalen and Philly, and also Herbert and Burrow. At least we have a standard of where you're probably going to be. Burrow probably going to be – Cincinnati Bengals are going to be like, hey, got to the Super Bowl. You got to the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:38:12 We're kind of doing our whole thing. I'll be interested to see how the Chargers one goes with Herbert and if they'll be able to handle Lamar. Speaking of quarterbacks, though, there's one being talked about a little bit in a different manner. Ty, go ahead, pal. Yeah, Rapshied, in terms of the draft, it was basically from the national semifinals up through like pro day until maybe like a week ago where
Starting point is 00:38:29 everyone, you know, C.J. Stroud was a slam dunk. Everyone was talking about how good he was. And then Bryce Young kind of came up a little bit. It was always those guys, 1A, 1B. But now it seems like some of like the smoke screens and like people kind of shitting on C.J. Stroud is starting to come out.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Have you heard all of this stuff in terms of his draft stock where they're saying maybe Houston isn't going to take him. He could, you know, slide down and be like the third or fourth or fifth quarterback taken. Like is his draft stock actually plummeting right now? Have you heard any of that or is that mostly just bullshit you think? Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:01 So I have heard all of that. That is, that does seem to be the hot rumor now with you know and people ask me like is it possible the texans don't take stroud at two anything is possible especially you know the texans and nick casero don't always look at things like everyone else i just don't believe it like i just Like, from my information, the people that I've spoken with, all of that, like, I would be surprised if the Texans do not take their quarterback back in the future at number two. You know, most people I speak with believe it's Bryce Young, CJ Stroud, and then the others. Small gap, not like a huge gap, but they think it's those two. So if that's the case, if Bryce Young goes one, Stroud should go two.
Starting point is 00:39:45 So I hear all of this, and I get calls about it all the time because that's the season we're in right now. I just don't really believe it. And if it happens, I will say, yeah, I didn't see it, but I don't see it. A lot of smoke there, right? That sounds like a lot of smoke coming out of there. Is it coming from the Colts, you know, potentially sitting there at four? You know, hey, C.J. Stroud, this guy
Starting point is 00:40:06 is not a good person. You don't want him on your team. That's kind of what's been coming out. Not coachable and then not sure they're on a quarterback. It's like, what the fuck is going on? Because we haven't heard any of this stuff before. And then you think back to people that have been a general manager in the NFL, they said,
Starting point is 00:40:22 it's line season. Everybody's potentially right now trying to shift the odds in their favor. I'll be fascinated to see what the Texans do. They've got a lot of power. Because let's say the Texans like a quarterback. Maybe it's not C.J. Stroud. Maybe it's another quarterback. With what you just said, how everybody you've talked
Starting point is 00:40:38 to says Bryce Young, C.J. Stroud, then the others, they have another pick, don't they? Don't they have another pick? They have 12. But it's a risk because let's just say than the others, they have another pick, don't they? Don't they have another pick? They have 12. Yeah, the Texans have 12. Go ahead. But it's a risk because let's just say, I don't know, let's say it's Anthony Richardson, right?
Starting point is 00:40:52 This is just hypothetical. This is not me reporting. I'm just saying let's say it's Anthony Richardson. But you have information that nobody else has, so every time you give your punditry, we have to go, this guy knows something. Just know that that's the world you're in, and I assume you know that. Got it.
Starting point is 00:41:05 I do. All right. Let's say the Texans take Will Anderson, too, and pass on a quarterback, right? At that point, it's all up for grabs because they can't control everything else that happens. They could try to trade up to three and take a quarterback then, and the Cardinals go, yeah, no,
Starting point is 00:41:22 we're just going to trade with someone else. And, like, they might lose someone they viewed as their franchise quarterback. And, like, historically, if you like a quarterback, just take him. Like, everyone lost their minds when Daniel Jones went six to the Giants. Reality is they thought that was going to be their franchise guy. It's earlier than people. Like, just take him. So, like, if you're the Texans, don't risk losing your quarterback.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Well, now you've paid Daniel Jones. Now you've paid Daniel Jones. Taequann's not happy. That's right. Dexy's not happy. You know, so I guess Daniel Jones, good call at six. He's had success. That's not his fault or the Giants' fault.
Starting point is 00:41:55 And this last year was certainly his best year. I'm happy for him getting it all figured out. But there's been a lot of times where people have drafted a quarterback that's been theirs, and they suck. Yeah. But there's been a lot of times where people have drafted a quarterback that's been theirs and they suck. Yeah. So it's like history says that numbers tell us a lot of these guys are going to suck.
Starting point is 00:42:11 A lot of these guys aren't going to be guys. Even though we're – like people are going to trade up to three, we assume, right? Especially with what the Texans are talking about. Let's say the Texans go with a defender. Okay. That one guy, Tyree. Tyree Wilson. Tyree Wilson or whoever.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Everybody's talking about whoever it is. Then all of a sudden that Cardinals pick is very big. Very, very big if a quarterback's sitting there and C.J. Stroud. That's why it's such a big deal with the C.J. Stroud news. It's being leaked by everybody. Agreed. Then the report of they might not take a quarterback because it could be the Cardinals cooking.
Starting point is 00:42:51 Because Cardinals, all of a sudden, their pick becomes very valuable if that stuff's true. And then you look at them underneath, and I'm not saying Chris Ballard would do this, and Jim Hersey's already tweeted, we might, brother. Or we might, brother. Or we might, brother. Or maybe, brother.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Or not. So, you know? You be the judge. So that's what Jim's saying. Yeah. So maybe Jim is playing a little game of chess or poker behind the scenes. Maybe Chris Ballard's doing that. Maybe the Cardinals are doing that.
Starting point is 00:43:28 We just have to remember that that is possible here in the middle of draft time. And C.J. Stroud just has to sit on the other end of it, I guess, and just be like, that's not true. That's not true. Hold up. How'd this start happening? What's this all about? It's so bad.
Starting point is 00:43:39 It is. It's the world we're in, I guess. I don't want to say it's disgusting, but it's kind of disgusting. Pretty disgusting. You just think about D'Amico Ryans, too. Like, he comes from San Fran where they kind of view the QB differently, right? And who's San Fran's best player and one of, Nick Bosa, who they took in the, you know, top three in San Fran.
Starting point is 00:43:55 So maybe they do go with, like, the premier edge guy. That was kind of the, you know, cornerstone of the Niners defense to try and start it that way with Will Anderson. Peter King had an article this morning where he said, it's going to be tough for the Texans to explain to their fans if they didn't take quarterback last year and they don't take quarterback at two this year if it ends up not working out well. But it is D'Amico's first year, so he's got some time.
Starting point is 00:44:17 Texans fans have to remember that. Just because you guys have sucked for a bit, that doesn't mean that D'Amico's not going to be able to get some time here in the development of what they've got going on. The last two head coaches only had a year. Yeah, I guess you got one year. Casario said that he's not going anywhere, which is a big deal. Last question for you here, Rap.
Starting point is 00:44:30 We know you're very busy, and we thank you for your time. Go ahead, Tony. Rap, the Cardinals gave DeHop permission to seek a trade. Are they going to do the same with Buda Baker? No, no, no, no. I do not believe those situations are similar. So you're right. DeAndre Hopkins has permission to seek a trade.
Starting point is 00:44:45 He's been discussing with several teams. We'll see if one happens in the next, I mean, should be in the next week or so, certainly before the draft. I know there's been plenty of discussions, so we'll see if they can get to a price where the Cardinals are okay with. Buddebaker, it seems to be the opposite. So he, I learned about the trade request over the last several days, but this has quietly been a reality for Arizona for much longer.
Starting point is 00:45:09 He wants a new deal. And I do not believe the Cardinals want to trade him at all, which is what told him. Like, we don't plan to trade you. We want to keep you. And, like, he is, you know, if you watch Hard Knocks, the in-season, that's a great picture. Because that actually really encapsulates him.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Like that's like, he is the heartbeat of that defense. That's the guy you want to build around. Not you want to use like your second round pick, good use of gifts. Not, you know, you don't want to use the second round pick to replace him. You want to build with him. So we'll see what happens, but I don't believe they want to trade him at all. What was it? They just told him he's not worth the new deal? What was this gif about?
Starting point is 00:45:49 Because I know you probably understand what this gif means. Even though you said you didn't understand what the last one means. This one was like, something happened. Fuck him. What was it? Yes. That one, I'm good on that gif. The cap one, this is a learning process.
Starting point is 00:46:07 That they were not giving him a new deal. You know, and I think a lot of times for first-time GMs, it's not just the actions, it's the precedent, it's sets. And so if Monti Asifor is giving, even though Buda Baker is awesome, this is just a viewpoint for Monti Asifor, if he's giving a star player a new deal with two years left, then he's thinking, like, is every star player going to want a new deal with two years left?
Starting point is 00:46:29 That is kind of what plays into it. Got it. I can understand that. You've got to try to set a precedent one way or the other. It's all in how you deliver the message, though. And I assume the way it was delivered to Buda, Buda did not appreciate it, it appears. Let's see if he gets Arizona back into his Twitter bio, back into his Instagram bio before the season starts, because obviously he's a massive appreciated, it appears. Let's see if he gets Arizona back into his Twitter bio, back into his Instagram bio before the season starts
Starting point is 00:46:47 because obviously he's a massive piece of it all. Who knows what happens with DeHop and Lamar? We do know what happened with Jalen, though. He got paid a certain amount of money that is either this number, this number, or this number. And we will find out later what it actually is. Right, Ian? All the numbers. All are true. Every bit of it.
Starting point is 00:47:05 You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, you can catch him on NFL Network literally all day today. He broke the news of Jalen Hurts alongside Tom Pelissero, who plays the guitar, but hates kickers.
Starting point is 00:47:13 Ian Rappaport. Yay! Yay, Ricky! All right, $200 million guaranteed. See, I just don't know if I'd buy that. We definitely would have talked about that. I mean, we've covered this Lamar thing from the front to the back,
Starting point is 00:47:25 and we went over that exact era. Let's think about it more. The 133 three years, was that supposed to be a six-year deal? Three years worth of guarantees, so then he would still be on a bad contract for the last three years? Is that what he was thinking? Or was it just a three-year deal? Yeah, but the voided thing still,
Starting point is 00:47:42 if they want to keep you, they can keep you. I believe that's how the voided thing... Three years, 13 to keep you, they can keep you. I believe that's how the voided thing. Because three years, 133 is pretty damn good. Not bad. Fully guaranteed. That's a big deal, yeah. And then you get to hit it again. It goes to go to 140.
Starting point is 00:47:54 If you're at 133, $7 million there, you think you could get that up to 140. It'd be, what, 43 and a third. Yeah, but that doesn't come anywhere close to average per year. Yeah, it's 43 and a third to what Deshaun Watson is, yeah. Yeah, but then you're 28. Because Aaron's making 50 a year, technically. Yeah, three-year 50. Now, Jalen's technically 51.
Starting point is 00:48:14 Yeah, and he hasn't really said that that's the benchmark of importance, but that would make sense if he was like, nah, I want 150 over three. I'm not doing 133 over three. That's why the 200, if it was 200 over five with actual four, that's a good deal. That feels like a good deal.
Starting point is 00:48:33 If that was before the season, maybe they've come down from that. I don't know. How about Rapp saying, yeah, Baltimore has tried not to make this too public and be like, well, that's not true. That's not true because they don't want to piss off Lamar. I think they already did. Yeah. I think they already did. Yeah. I think they already did. And all this information getting out isn't good for him. This one isn't.
Starting point is 00:48:50 I mean, we're bad at our jobs. Bro, what happened? How did we miss Jeff Lurie saying, you know, because we'll get shit sent in there and we'll find stuff that has like four retweets from like small things. It's like, oh, this seems to be brewing. This seems to be a bit real. How did we let that one slip through, I wonder i wonder i don't know because that would have been massive
Starting point is 00:49:07 news like massive news yes jalen hurts getting a new deal yeah we're talking about lamar lamar lamar lamar oh this sets precedent for herbert and burrow exactly boom boom boom boom boom didn't even think about jalen like next offseason next cycle will be the jalen cycle but instead the eagles are like let's get this out of the meow. I think we might have had it on here and talked about it because we started throwing Jalen into that category of Herbert, Lamar, and Burrow. We should have stuck with it. That was on us.
Starting point is 00:49:33 This would have been a contract year for Jalen, correct? Yeah, he was going into his last year. He didn't start. He doesn't have a fifth-year option because he's a second-rounder. Yeah, didn't start, playoffs, and then Super Bowl. I saw somebody tweet, and this would have been you. Congrats to him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Huge contract. That's a big-time fucking deal. And smart by the Eagles. Highest paid QBs in the NFL and new money average per year. Sweet. So many different ways to break this all down. Jalen Hurts, 51, 49 for Aaron. Kyler, 46. Patrick Mahomes, 45, but he's getting $440 million.
Starting point is 00:50:05 This gets changed every year, too, to create more cap. And Jalen Hurts' deal is only costing $5.3 million against cap next year. So if your team is not doing a deal because of salary cap, that's all bullshit. And I think 2024, not bad. 2025, not bad. And then when 2026 comes around, guess what they'll do? They'll renegotiate it again if Jalen Hurts is their quarterback, and then they 2026 comes around guess what they'll do they'll renegotiate it again if jalen hurts is their quarterback and then they'll just keep kicking it down the road
Starting point is 00:50:28 but they'll have to answer at some point yeah unless jalen plays for 15 fucking years he might which could happen yeah and very easily having that small cap hits is going to allow them to sign davante smith again what do you think siri on he was thinking whenever he saw jalen get the deal oh it's a dog, yeah. Make sure you throw a couple milk bones in with the pen so he can sign the milk bones right after because he's a dog. Sirianni. What a dog, dude. They're going to be good for a while.
Starting point is 00:51:01 So long. How long is Kelsey going to play for, too? I mean, that's just a whole other thing. Best center in the game. Yeah, right in front of Jalen. Offense line's unbelievable. As long as Kelsey's there, we assume everybody else will probably stay, take deals because that's the offensive lineman thing.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Lane Johnson's getting paid a hilarious amount of money. Hasn't been healthy for a bit. As soon as he gets back on the field full time, they're only going to get better. And then they've got two great weapons. Yes. Like two, A.J. Brown and Devontae Smith. Fantastic weapons. Goddard, too. Oh her too oh yeah god it's a dog and they have a top 10 top 10 picture here yeah and
Starting point is 00:51:32 they at 10 i think yeah actually have 10 people are talking about them getting a running back because they lose miles sanders people are acting like jackson smith and jigbo is going to be around in the teens like imagine the eagles get another fucking weapon. Yeah. You know, like, why not? With the way their offense goes, I mean, they got a couple running backs over there right now. He could find another one. I mean, Pacheco is found in the seventh round. Not saying that that's going to happen, but that's how people view running backs.
Starting point is 00:51:55 Yeah. Running backs are like, yeah, there's a couple great ones, but you'll be able to find them around. There's enough. Especially with this offensive system. If they load up on this fucking team and get more offensive weapons, with Sirianni doing his thing and Jalen around for a long time, the defense is unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:52:11 They keep Darius Slay whenever he was potentially going to be on the move. They lose two big guys in the middle, but they'll be able to find somebody, we assume. This team's all the way back for the long haul. Congrats to the fucking Eagles and all the Johns over there. Three big guys, if you include Hargrave, who went to San Francisco. So maybe because they drafted, what, Davis last year from Georgia, if they could get his buddy Jalen Carter at 10, if he slips to there,
Starting point is 00:52:33 that would be – they could have the interior D line good for the next fucking – Well, and that's where Drew Rosenhaus said he's not visiting anybody outside the top 10. You know, he said, I have it on pretty good authority, Rosenhaus. You think this is my first draft? Come on. Had a guy traded last year. What are we even talking about is what Rosenhaus said.
Starting point is 00:52:52 These people are talking like I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. I'm not having my client relive the worst day of his life all over the country. Why? Because the guy might pick 20? Get out of here. We're not going past 10. And everybody heard that there was like oh the eagles have told rosenhouse that if jaylen carter's at 10 he's
Starting point is 00:53:10 gonna be a philadelphia eagle or like they kind of have the luxury where it's like you they're gonna be so good anyway that like they can go with a guy whose upside might be crazy and then if he doesn't work out like you know people were saying nolan smith or whatever it's like oh he might slide a little bit but athletically he's such a freak. It's like, hey, if we plug this guy in right away with who we have already, he could have 14 sacks next year. They can kind of do whatever the hell they want. I unplugged it.
Starting point is 00:53:36 I was going to say, is that in my headphones or through your mic? I couldn't tell. I thought it was in my headphones. Sorry, Ty. You were giving a great answer there. I was just seeing if this was working. Long weekend. Got to do it. I was unplugged. Yeah, I should have were giving a great answer there. I was just seeing if this was working. Long weekend. Gotta do it. Yeah, I should have done it before the show started.
Starting point is 00:53:49 That's on me. Bad planning. Speaking of bad planning, if you want to call the 5-Hour Energy phone line, we'd love to hear what you're talking about. 1-833-432-3663. 1-833-4-DADOOM! We'll be answering some calls later in the program. Cannot wait to hear what people are talking about over the weekend.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Great golf tournament yesterday. Yeah. Playoffs. The NBA playoffs took center stage. A lot of different teams kind of coming into the spotlight. A lot of injuries to crucial big-name players taking place. That video that we decided to utilize as our NBA news break for the people that are watching and following along those are some big John Morant yeah Giannis Tyler Hero Anthony Davis
Starting point is 00:54:36 it's like big names all over the place which is what the NBA thrives off and that's why the playoffs are such a big deal because all the big superstars are playing on primetime TV pretty much every day or every single night. First day for these guys. A lot of them. Injury to the biggest stars. Just boom. First quarter.
Starting point is 00:54:54 Stunner to Giannis. Back contusion. On the ground. John Morant, broken hand, they're saying. He's potentially, Giannis is potentially coming back for game two. And then Tyler Eero comes through, broken hand. The guy's a shooter. It was sad.
Starting point is 00:55:09 There was numerous other people, too, that just got, like, banged up, roughed up. It's like, this is the time for the NBA to shine. These guys work all fucking year. 82 games to get into the playoffs. And then just a couple freak injuries overnight. It's like, that's no fun for the NBA or the playoffs or any of these guys. And Hero broke his hand, actually ran to the locker room. Play was still going on. They had to tell him
Starting point is 00:55:28 to get his ass back out there. Runs back on the court. Hits a three with his broken hand. And then finally gets pulled from the game. Oh, so maybe we tore it all through this thing. Yeah, they could. Giannis are going to have to because they talked about it in the broadcast. That arena just went flat as soon as he left the game. Saw a lot
Starting point is 00:55:44 of shots of uh around the arena of people very bummed out oh yeah at the number one seed okay this is the year the greek freak that's right he's gonna win it all this city that is supported mightily and we've seen videos of this fan base in the past when aaron and bakhtiari are chugging their brouhahs and the arena's always packed out and Giannis has these incredible games but nobody really pays attention because the playoffs is when the world is watching and they have not won one yet so this is something that they have to do if they want to prove themselves first game of the playoffs after earning a number one seed sorry ass Miami's coming through. It's bad luck.
Starting point is 00:56:25 Jimmy Butler's hair looks sweet, but they snuck in the back door here. That's right, playing game. They just snuck in. Barely won. Tyler Hero gets hurt. Right away. Duncan Robinson's knocking down shots. And then they beat the Bucs, and Giannis is seemingly out indefinitely.
Starting point is 00:56:42 What a heartbreaker. Yeah, well. They were zooming into people's faces around that arena. Lot of. Not good. Yeah. Flatbill, 80-year-old man, 320. Yep.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Sitting front row. Cheese curds. Doesn't even want to eat them. Pissed. Sad. All year we worked our asses off to get here. We supported this team. This was supposed to be the year.
Starting point is 00:57:02 And then literally our MVP gets hurt. Freak accident. Falls. Hurts his back. Can't play anymore. See you later. He's going to be back next game, I guess they're saying. Will he be a hundo anywhere near it? I doubt it. NBA's a tough sport. That's a very, very unfortunate situation. Yeah, they'll throw bodies
Starting point is 00:57:19 at him and grind him down, but the other game, too, last night, I believe you watched. Oh, Giannis has a ring? I didn't know that. Oh, fuck it. Never mind. He's already won. Yeah. He had the one after the bubble.
Starting point is 00:57:30 But still, in this day and age, you need a couple. No, you don't. I didn't even know he had one. Milwaukee won the fucking NBA championship? Yeah. See? Oh, is that when he went and he got like 100 Chick-fil-A nuggets after they won? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:42 I do remember that. We did cover that. The 50 piece. Yeah, because we were wondering what he was going to do to celebrate. Yes, and with his lady, he went through the, yeah, I do remember that. I apologize, my boy. Fuck it. You guys already won one, okay?
Starting point is 00:57:54 Yeah, story's been written. You're good. Sorry about it. Sorry it has happened to your honest guy. Should have won another one. Basketball is rude sometimes. Yeah. If they don't go in and win this one, it'll be because of a freak back contusion accident
Starting point is 00:58:04 where he's back. I didn't know you guys already won one. How about the fucking go in and win this one, it'll be because of a freak back contusion accident where he's back. I didn't know you guys already won one. How about the fucking Clippers? Oh, yeah, exactly. Unbelievable. Eric Gordon was pulling up from the logo, just not even close to the rim. Kawhi?
Starting point is 00:58:15 Not even. Kawhi Leonard? All the way back. Torn ACL, what, a year ago? Never on TV, ever. I don't think the guy ever plays. I don't remember a time where I turned on a game in the middle of the NBA season
Starting point is 00:58:26 and the Clippers were on, and I was like, oh, I want to watch this. Why? Because Kawhi's playing or Paul George is playing or the people they paid. Paul George wasn't playing last night. No, he's out the whole series. Classic Clippers, like one person playing, one person up. They get a massive win in Phoenix. Huge win.
Starting point is 00:58:41 How does that happen? Well, especially with Devin Booker, who I know Bobby Carpenter loves, but that whole team feels as though they're ready to go. Everyone's picking the Suns to go all the way, too. Well, Kevin Durant is a dog. Dog. They'll figure it out. Him and Kawhi were just trading shots.
Starting point is 00:58:56 His hair looks amazing. Kevin Durant did his hair for playoffs. It looks very, very good. It seemed like he's locked in. They were undefeated up until yesterday with him on the court in phoenix fun stat about yesterday's game how it should be remembered yeah russell westbrook played best basketball he's played in 10 years i am so fucking happy for that guy now there's a mark in here who doesn't like russell westbrook who's
Starting point is 00:59:21 spoke completely out of pocket earlier when i talked about how happy I was for Russell Westbrook. I'm like, think about the weight this guy's had on his shoulders about being a terrible fucking basketball player. That's all anybody said. He comes in triple-double machine. This guy's a dog. He's the best. He's the best.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Then there's a couple dramatic situations that take place, a couple team moves, and he sucks at basketball. This guy is terrible at basketball. This guy is broken. Cool fashion, terrible basketball player. He was getting absolutely slaughtered. Watching that game last night, he had some open threes. He shot them.
Starting point is 00:59:51 They didn't go in. That's okay. Nowhere near going in. But I did like the fact that in his mind, he's like, fuck it. Let it eat. Rip it. And then on the defensive side, in the rebounding game, in the driving dish, what he was doing, he took over that fucking game yesterday.
Starting point is 01:00:06 Russell Westbrook took that game over yesterday. Kawhi's there, Devin Booker's there, Kevin Durant's there. Obviously, the Gorillas in the building, the mascot, four of their sons. There's a lot of superstars around there. Russell Westbrook took that fucking game over yesterday. I was so happy for him. And immediately after the game, I see a video of him walking in somebody's suite, maybe fighting them.
Starting point is 01:00:24 That happened at halftime. He was having the best day he's had in years in basketball, and he said, fuck this. This guy needs to hear me. Tells the motherfucker, you need to watch your mouth. Yeah, right there. He should have hit that guy's food off his plate. Then he bounces out,
Starting point is 01:00:39 goes to the locker room. I mean, greatest day of all time for Russell Westbrook. The world remembered that Russell Westbrook is a phenom on the court, and he almost beat a guy up at halftime. I mean, what a day. What a day for old Russell Westbrook. Yeah, almost had a triple-double.
Starting point is 01:00:54 You beat the shit out of that guy, you got yourself a quadruple-double. Boom. Boom. Guarded Kevin Durant most of the game. Exactly. Old pals, obviously, have talked about that. That conversation was heightened. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Like we were saying out there, you know, Mitt big, you know, watch the game don't watch the stats, which is what he hates the most, but then all he did was look at the box score and saw that Russ, yeah, he didn't shoot well 3 for 20, yeah, 3 for 19 3 for 20, that's not good, but you know what he did? damn near had a triple-double and he fucking grinded down
Starting point is 01:01:20 Durant, which is all they needed him to do because Kawhi scored 38 or 34 or whatever there was a minute left and the Suns were down 4, 3, whatever it was. Standard offensive possession for the Clippers. Russell Westbrook fucks up offensive rebound. Reset the shot clock.
Starting point is 01:01:35 They come at it again. Russell Westbrook gets it, throws it off a guy's foot. Clippers get the ball again. 14 more. We're down to like 30-some seconds and the Suns haven't even touched the fucking ball. I stole two possessions. And then he's the one at the free throw line to finish that last possession, goal of three.
Starting point is 01:01:50 Makes it. Yeah. What a day for Russell Westbrook. Yeah. Fought a guy at halftime. Yep. Guarded Durant. Sealed the dub.
Starting point is 01:01:59 Russell Westbrook's back. Ended that game, too. He used the one that was covering Booker on their final possession. Blocked, threw it off him. Clippers ball. Pretty much he had a Rondo stat line from those great Celtics teams. Seriously. It was a big time grinder game. What they used to say it was lowercase r,
Starting point is 01:02:14 lowercase u, lowercase s, lowercase s, lowercase e, capital L, capital L, capital L, capital L. Now it's lowercase r, capital L, capital L, capital L. Now it's lowercase Russell, capital dub. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:02:30 Sbrook. That's right. Welcome back, Russ. Go, Russ. Pump for him. I don't know what's going to happen next game. I would assume Kevin Durant's going to go for 40 next game, if I had to guess.
Starting point is 01:02:41 Kawhi might, too. I mean, he was not missing many shots. Yeah, he was back to the Kawhi that I remember 10 years ago, whenever he would... Was that how long it's been? When was he in Canada? 2019. God, it feels like it was 10 years ago. When was he in San Antonio?
Starting point is 01:02:55 It feels like it was 20 years ago. He's a playoff player. Happy he's back. Game, let's see what takes place in the NBA. We'll obviously watch because there's not much else going on, and it is a little bit electrifying. Like watching the Joker play and then win by 29. Yeah. That was fun to watch.
Starting point is 01:03:11 Game wasn't close. That dude was running point at whatever, 7'4". And then he stopped at like the foul line. Fake bounce pass. Spin move layup. Two steps. It was like the smoothest thing I've seen. I'm like 7'4 point guard
Starting point is 01:03:25 who's the best passer on the team they're saying. So they can't double him. Because if they double him, he'll find the open person. And he's just, he's never on television during a regular season. Should be. He's fucking awesome to watch play that Joker. Yeah, incredibly skilled. Incredibly skilled. And he makes highlight passes.
Starting point is 01:03:41 He'll fucking do this one. He'll do that one. And he's like a wizard off the glass up there. Unbelievable. Congrats to the NBA. Yeah. Good job, NBA. Good start. Golf is good.
Starting point is 01:03:51 Jordan Spieth just fucking couldn't put one home. We're talking millimeters away from a 20-1 paying off if you bet on Jordan Spieth before the RBC to go back-to-back. Fitz hits a nine iron to like six inches on the third playoff hole. What a fucking ball that was. He would feel so good. He's out of Northwestern, if you do recall. That's right.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Made a friend with a guy named Daniel Rappaport because Fitz had no friends. And Rappaport said, hey, I'll be your friend. And Rapp's now on foreplay. Great work. Fitz just won another fucking tournament. An elevated one. Good for him. Jordo gave that last putter a good roll, too.
Starting point is 01:04:24 The one where Fitz knocked it to six inches and then he had like a 25-footer. It was a good roll. Didn for him. Jordo gave that last putter a good roll, too. The one where Fitz knocked it to six inches, and then he had a 25-footer. It was a good roll. Jordan Spieth has had this putt three times in the last hour. Oh, Fitz will knock that home. He's going to finish it, isn't he? Yes, he is. Golf is such an
Starting point is 01:04:39 interesting thing. It's the worst. What do you mean? I mean, it's the hardest game out there. It's the rudest game. Jordan Spieth had that turning one. And then the ball turns a half an inch to the right. Actual rims out. Has a celebratory putt up. Putter up.
Starting point is 01:04:56 He just won a tournament. I don't know how many million. This was an elevated one, so a bigger purse. How many millions of dollars it was? I think 3.6. I did it. Fuck everybody. And then it just nope, not today. Drops putter. Oh, no. Ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:05:09 Now he's got to go show up on a par three. That's right. Hey, show up. Fitz puts that thing like eight feet or nine feet. He puts it to six or seven. It was like, these dudes are unbelievable. And then Fitz cold-blooded puts a nine iron to six inches, and then it's over.
Starting point is 01:05:22 What are you going to do? See you, Giorno. I might have live bet Jordan Spieth. Yeah, that's a tough day. For the first hole. Yeah. So then he. I mean, it was there.
Starting point is 01:05:32 Just put the ball in the fucking hole, Giorno. I mean, the one on the next. Say, Giorno, you know. Could you imagine staying over that putt? No chance that goes in. No way. I'm rolling that thing off the fucking green. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:41 I'm obviously pissed that Giorno didn't put it in for the 20-1 and the live plus 110 or whatever it was, or minus 110. I think it was going in there. It's like, Giordo's hot. Let's go. He's playing well. So maybe it's just strictly because I have money on the line, but I have no idea how he got that anywhere close.
Starting point is 01:05:58 They're so good at golf. To be that good, like someone just said it, that Fitzpatrick shot to get it to six inches. Imagine being able to do that. That's a second time, too. The first hole of playoffs, he hits the same club. Hits the flag. He spins that club, too, as it's flying.
Starting point is 01:06:15 He thought he put that fucker in. I loved it. 174, I think, or something like that. I forget what it was. He thought he put it in. Definitely. Spins that thing. Hits the flag like perfect.
Starting point is 01:06:26 You hit a perfect ball. Then it rolls to 50 feet. It's like golf is so fun. You're the worst sport of all time. And then he's seven yards back, and they're like, all right, same exact shot, nine iron or whatever it was. And he does it, puts it to six inches. That's how good they are.
Starting point is 01:06:40 Same spot. Yep. I liked hearing Giorno and his caddy talk about the eight iron to the nine iron. That's cool. Nine iron, a little bit of wind. Remember last time, it kind of carried a little about the 8-iron to the 9-iron. That was cool. 9-iron, a little bit of wind. Remember the last time it kind of carried a little bit. Got to get to 67. How far is it?
Starting point is 01:06:49 74 yards. But you got to get at least 70 to the front of the green. Yeah. So 67 with 4 yards help with the wind could be 71, I guess, if you want to hit that 8-iron or the 9-iron. And he stood over it. He's not going to make it. The guy already had the other club out.
Starting point is 01:07:02 Yeah. Had we not heard that combo, though, wouldn't you have been like, oh, no, this isn't going to be good? And then he flushes it the guy already had the other club out yeah yeah had we not heard that combo though wouldn't you been like oh no this isn't gonna be good and then he flushes it but we heard the combo is a great decision well it's just like the guy that i've seen golf it said hey will you move that guy out of the way yeah yeah i'm taking this four iron 246 yards i'm gonna go around here i'm gonna hit the front of it and then roll it on and then they do it that's what we got from the giordo discussion yeah like he was talking about landing at a certain yards a yard is three feet okay that is not that much room no no okay so he's landing at this within this from 170 yards away that's the landing pad that's a fucking joke dude that is an absolute joke two football fields
Starting point is 01:07:43 away like i guess but yeah exactly just yeah i'll land it in this fucking spot in a bucket people talk about like pooch punts and everything like that like being we have 30 feet right 10 yards in there bump it down to eight if you really want to get greedy because that's where a returner will catch a fair catch so i was trying to land it at the eight every single time but i would have eight yards of spare there you know what i mean i'd have a little bit of room that's a lot of room yes they have to land it on a square box like this big in playoffs with 3.3 million dollars in a line that's bananas and that wind was swirling because it was messing with him shots before that as well yeah diner in south carolina coming off the mosh yeah no i'm off the mosh a little bit it was a beautiful
Starting point is 01:08:24 tournament i watched it. I had some people tweet me, we're watching NBA, Hoss. It's playoff time. It's like, we're in a playoff right now. They're golfing. That was the Heat bus game, and that one was already over at that point. Let's get to a break. On the other side, we'll have A.J. Hawk join us.
Starting point is 01:08:36 We won an award this weekend. So obviously we got a Face of Ohio trophy presentation award celebration going on. Pretty cool. Nick can't hear the music. Oh, no. Did it break? Nick, what's going on? No, no.
Starting point is 01:08:53 Too much love in his ears. There it is. Did you do something? No, sir. We should probably get a new one of these. This thing's been around a long time. Yeah. Spotify has been on this thing straight on for three years, I guess.
Starting point is 01:09:12 Well, we made the move Sunday, so it turned off once. Yep. True. Still been open for a long time. Just playing. Mm-hmm. Good work here. Probably needs an update or two.
Starting point is 01:09:22 Mm-hmm. That's what we'll do. Bang. DJ Griff did great. This is not DJ Griff beat. He did. Had to pick up the entire show from the wedding, take it outside. He was throwing quite a curveball and handled it pretty damn well.
Starting point is 01:09:40 Great haircut, too. Looked very cool. Yeah. Had the Barry Bonds earring. Yeah. Electric. DJ TJ also did well. Beast haircut, too. Looked very cool. Yeah. Had the Barry Bonds earring. Yeah. Electric. DJ TJ also did well. Beast.
Starting point is 01:09:48 He was there. They were a little tag team. Spoke of Stogie while he was DJing. Had a backwards hat on, too, with a suit. That's very cool. Great look. Super cool for a DJ. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:59 Nick, did they give you an actual temperature of what it reached in there on Saturday? Had to be at least 88 in the 92 range. Had to be. I think that's safe. That's accurate. My DiNardo keychain was at 97 degrees. Didn't see any DiNardos this weekend, which is a shame. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:17 But if they had the Doppler over where we were getting married, red, red wave would have came into the building. Yep. And then a blue one would have been going outside. was a perfect setup it was a perfect setup it was literally the best thing that could possibly go wrong you know what i mean true that's a great silver lining to look at we got very lucky with that and it ended up being a great night even cooler yeah like i don't want to say cooler outside but kind of cooler outside technically it was cooler after absolutely cooler outside definitely cooler like in terms of weather Technically, it was cooler outside. Absolutely cooler outside. Definitely cooler
Starting point is 01:10:46 in terms of weather. I'm saying also. The ambiance and everything, it was sweet. Very loud. The lights up there, once it got dark. We were very loud out there. Very loud. I think inside, potential problem with how loud. Remember, there was already a complaint. Because there's apartments above that, right?
Starting point is 01:11:01 Boom. So I think it worked out perfect. Well, also, allegedly, we might be getting a refund for some things being moved outside. Certainly made most of it, but yeah, you guys deserve a refund. Full refund. It was bullshit. Yeah, it was bullshit. I mean, also bullshit that Pittsburgh
Starting point is 01:11:17 didn't have a Joe Nardo, you know, statue around the city at some point. You didn't go around the whole city. Yeah, I basically did, and I know that they don't. And the other thing, too, is... You didn't, basically. You didn't go around the whole city. Yeah, I basically did, and I know that they don't. And the other thing, too, is... You didn't, basically. You didn't go to Moon, dude. Yeah, I did. And also, they spelled Pittsburgh wrong at that train station. Oh, that was 1900. They ran out of cement.
Starting point is 01:11:33 Yeah. Well... They did things differently back then. They spelled it wrong. There was no H. They didn't have an H then. Spelled every other city properly. They added an H because some other town named themselves Pittsburgh? To be clear, not sure.
Starting point is 01:11:49 The Yidder accent didn't pick up an H until like 1924 or something. That is the reason. Some other bitch-made town named themselves Pittsburgh, and Pittsburgh should find a lot of names. Nah, probably a tough town. They wanted to name themselves after our city, if I had to guess. I don't think so. Actually, the other Pittsburghittsburgh i believe
Starting point is 01:12:05 is in kansas and kansas didn't exist until 1935 i don't think that's the only one i think there's a few pittsburghs but that was a weird very weird weird thing didn't know that in joining us now from an attic in a state of which he is a champion he's a rider cup champion he's a super bowl champion he's a college football national champion right he is now ohio's finest the face of ohio a true ohio fucks ohio fuck ladies and, an actual trophy was given to this man because he is the face of Ohio. That is an actual thing that happened this weekend.
Starting point is 01:12:52 He was at a podium. He gave a speech. He should be celebrated from now until forever. The Ohio fuck. A.J. Hawk. Yeah, baby! A.J.!
Starting point is 01:13:06 Yeah! A.J. Hawk! A.J. Hawk! A.J. Hawk! A.J. Hawk! A.J., you are the face of Ohio officially. Ohio's finest! A.J. Hawk!
Starting point is 01:13:20 A.J. Hawk! A.J. Hawk! A.J. Hawk! A.J. Hawk! AJ Hawk! AJ Hawk! Holy fuck, dude! You're going to be jacked up! I FaceTimed you. I literally FaceTimed you as soon as this happened. As soon as I read it on the internet, I'm like, what the fuck is this?
Starting point is 01:13:36 How long did AJ know he was going to be the Ohio fuck recipient? How long did AJ know he was going to be giving a speech? Is this why AJ couldn't come to the wedding? It makes sense. A.J., you are the face of Ohio. How long did you know this was happening? And how long was the speech that you gave? Because every word that you speak from this point forward
Starting point is 01:13:55 is going to have to champion the state of Ohio. That's right. Because you are Ohio's finest, A.J. Yeah. Well, first off, I believe Shams is on the line waiting to come on the show. Is that correct? Nope. Nope.
Starting point is 01:14:07 That's not correct. Nope. He's not. No, I knew about this for a month or two probably beforehand. I only had to talk for probably three, five minutes. It was a quick little deal. A month? Why didn't we know?
Starting point is 01:14:16 Why wouldn't you let us celebrate this? This is a big deal. I sent you a text. I didn't know we were off on that day, so I was like, that was 1125. I knew I could do that and get back to the show, but we didn't have a show then. You said, I'm speaking at the coaches thing. You never said, I'm winning a fucking Ohio face award. I mean, this is unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:14:32 Is this the first time this award's been given out? How many other faces of Ohio are there? Braves is one of them. Braves is one of them. Okay. This makes sense. Okay. Hi.
Starting point is 01:14:42 I have an incredibly large dome. I eat glass. I will fight a motherfucker if we have to. And I'm probably smarter than you. Definitely. I am Ohio. I am Mike Vrabel. I am A.J. Hawk.
Starting point is 01:14:58 Wow. Is this like a Hall of Fame? You get a jacket? What'd you do with the trophy? That's downstairs somewhere. Come on. Somewhere. Should be carrying it around.
Starting point is 01:15:08 Put that on a necklace like I do. It's a tiled horn. What? You see this? Oh, that'd be cool. Yeah, it's a little, might be, yeah. I don't know. It might be uncomfortable.
Starting point is 01:15:15 Maybe I could change. Jeez, look at you. Wait, when did you get that? This was a gift from a man that got married this weekend before the wedding. This is to fight off the Mayotte, okay, which is evil and the devil. You see the devil comes trotting into me. It's what all these paisanos have been wearing for a long time.
Starting point is 01:15:34 The devil, evil, everything comes trotting up into town. Ooh, I'm going to fucking kill this paisano. I'm going to take him down. And then this Italian horn, which signifies a horn for an animal. Bam! Right in between the fucking things. Dead. This is warding off all bad spirits.
Starting point is 01:15:50 Shout out to Nick and all the paisans that have the horns. Horns only club, pal. Hell yeah. Welcome to the club, pal. Hell yeah. Hell yeah, Nick. I appreciate that. It made its way into the best man speech.
Starting point is 01:16:00 What was that? What's the fight off? Evil. Yeah. The Mallorc, right? Is that right, Diggs? Malloy. There it is. You get it.
Starting point is 01:16:09 Samuel. The who? Malloy. It's fighting off the Malloy. The Malloy? How do we spell that? Malloy. M-A-L-L-O-I-C-H.
Starting point is 01:16:18 C-H. Malloy. Malloy. Whatever it is, a lot of people are telling me, oh, that's the Malloy. And I want to tell them, like, no, actually, this is the fight off that. I think. I think. I'm not 100% sure, but I do believe I am right.
Starting point is 01:16:31 And, I mean, I'm 0.01% Italian. Right. So the horn is called Maloich? No. The horn is a whore. This is an Italian horn. Okay. Horn of what?
Starting point is 01:16:39 Like of a certain animal or what? Well, it's supposed to represent a animal horn. The horn of Italy. What is the meaning of the Italian horn? Italian horn is twisted chili pepper shaped amulet widely popular across Italy. It is also common outside Italy among Italians, a generation of Italian descendants. Of course, that's why I should have one. When traveling in Naples, you will find red horn shaped.
Starting point is 01:16:58 All right. Corn of Kelly is what it's called. Like most people across the world, we Italians have superstitious. Of course, we do. Among these, wearing or owning different charms to protect our loved ones. Warding off bad luck can bring good fortune. Most popular charm, especially in the south of Italy, is the cornichelli. That's what this is.
Starting point is 01:17:15 AJ, don't be a fucking idiot, dude. Okay. Cool. It's a red hot chili pepper. You finally got one. I can't believe how Italian you are. You finally got one at this age. I don't think this is one that I can just go buy.
Starting point is 01:17:27 You know, this is something. I've said a lot of things about Italians over a long period of time that I shouldn't have done. But I was younger and I didn't know. I was in the community. Not something you just go out and buy yourself and show up with. I was actually talking to Paisan from Plum named Billy Bones. And Billy Bones and I were having a 10-minute conversation.
Starting point is 01:17:44 Billy Bones standing 5'3". He's the dancer. Yeah, he's the dancer from the bus. He's a dog. He's also very Italian. He was a little boozed up, as was I. We were talking. It was after I'd got the Italian horn.
Starting point is 01:17:57 It was on my chest. You know, so Billy and I are having a conversation. 10 minutes we're talking. And then he goes, what the fuck is that? And like actually points at my chest. I'm like, Billy, hey, I'm Italian. I'm in. I'm in the club.
Starting point is 01:18:13 And I tried to do swords with him with his horn. He's actually got Jesus Christ there. Doesn't have the Italian horn. Descending or descending, I believe. But, yeah, you're actually, Nick, did you a huge favor because you're actually not allowed to buy your own Italian horn or it's bad luck. Is that right? I'm just going to buy myself one. Bad luck.
Starting point is 01:18:28 Doofus. Just heard. No, but Foxy, perfect idea. I'll buy you one. You buy me one. You should get your own. Buy your own Fox. Connor, you should get one too.
Starting point is 01:18:35 Look at the whole office horns. How about that? That ain't how this goes. Okay. I had to spit into a fucking backpack to get this. AJ, I'll send you one too. AJ. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 01:18:44 Thank you. You're the face of Ohio. Okay. You're not wearing a fucking Italian horn. You got enough trophies already. I'm, I'll send you one too. Thank you very much. Thank you. You're the face of Ohio, okay? You're not wearing a fucking Italian horn. You got enough trophies already. I'm sure I'm more Italian than you. Whoa! Shut up, Hawk. You are disgusting.
Starting point is 01:18:54 Okay, while you're talking that little face of Ohio trophy, I got a fucking Italian horn around my neck. You hear me? Need to stop it. You hear about it? Looks good. Joining us now. We know pinky rings will come back, but yes, get to shopping. Well, I left my pinky ring, actually.
Starting point is 01:19:10 No! No! What? I left it with the city. In the hotel or in the city? There's another one. Join us now, ladies and gentlemen. I don't know if he has an Italian horn around his neck, but I do know that this guy has a rabbit thing up his butt.
Starting point is 01:19:27 This guy is incredibly lucky. That's right. This guy is an absolute dog. He is the insider for the stadium, the athletic, and FanDuel TV. He hosts the show alongside Michelle Beadle, Chandler Parsons, and a couple other folks called Run It Back that you can watch every Monday, Wednesday, Thursday on Vandal Television. He's been on TV all morning because the NBA is popping off.
Starting point is 01:19:48 Ladies and gentlemen, the handsome Sean Trolley. Holy shit! I know if I'm FaceTiming you at 8 in the morning, I know you're picking up, so I appreciate you as a friend. I always know you would pick up. See, we were watching Sean's earlier today on the Good Morning Adam show. And he was challenged to FaceTime somebody. And he FaceTimed Chandler Parsons.
Starting point is 01:20:15 No answer. Oh. So I actually texted him. Yikes. While he was doing that. Yikes. I would have looked. You didn't deserve it.
Starting point is 01:20:23 Next time I'm FaceTiming you, Pat. I'm FaceTiming you next time, Pat. I don't know. I will answer depending upon if I'm taking a shit or not. But I would love to chat with you anytime because especially now, the NBA is the topic of conversation. NBA playoffs yesterday seemingly took everybody out.
Starting point is 01:20:39 So John Morant, Giannis, Tyler Eero, allegedly Anthony Davis as well. I don't think I got to see that. That might have been on Saturday whenever we were at the wedding. What is going on with all of them? That's not good for anybody, right? That this is taking place whenever all eyes are on the NBA? Yeah,
Starting point is 01:20:56 let's go one by one. I mean, Anthony Davis, Stinger, he left right before halftime, but he ended up coming back into the game. He had a big game. The Lakers win, so he's fine. Giannis Antetokounmpo, he went out with, he landed hard on his back. I don't know if you saw, but he looked like a tailbone, lower
Starting point is 01:21:11 back injury. He lands hard. It's a lower back contusion. It's painful. It's pretty painful. He might have to pop an Advil or two to be able to play. Game two. It's going right into the butt. Right now, there's optimism that he's going to be able to play. It's leaning more toward like he'll be able to gut it out and play,
Starting point is 01:21:32 but it's going to bother him for sure, and he's got a ligament issue in his wrist as well. So there are a couple of nagging things that he's dealing with. John Morant, on the other hand, he landed hard on his hand. And, Pat, I don't know, again, if you saw this, but literally his four fingers looked like they all went in you know they all went in um and that's painful even even if you're trying to just move them back um but he's he's gonna end up getting revaluated today i'm sure mris and um his status is looking a little bit more shaky for their game two on
Starting point is 01:22:02 wednesday um and then ty Tyler Hero broke his hand. He's going to be out most likely for the rest of the playoffs. Whether that's six to eight weeks, he's going to be out for an extended period of time. He actually ended up staying in the game, even took a jump shot with a broken hand. But unfortunately, he is done for the foreseeable future. Made it, right? Made it? He's a dog. He's a dog for that shot. He made it, right?
Starting point is 01:22:25 He did not make it? He's a dog. He's a dog for that shot. He made it, right? He did not make it. Oh, jeez. Hit the side of the backboard? I think it was off to the point it looked like he switched it, but he didn't. Oh, that's why. It was one of those. It would have been a lot cooler if he made it, but
Starting point is 01:22:41 all good. He's still a dog. He's out there. You didn't report that John Morant will be out for the rest of the playoffs like you did for Tyler Ero. So there's still a lot of hope that he will be back, even if it's not for game two, even though it looks as disgusting as it looked like for Ja? I think right now we just don't know what the results of the MRI are, so it's tough for me to put him out or put him in.
Starting point is 01:23:00 But it didn't sound good. It didn't look good. He had like a brace on his hand wrist as well. He's been dealing with that nagging injury. But I think either way, if he's back in the lineup, he's not back in the lineup. Right now the Lakers have the edge. I think with or without Ja Morant,
Starting point is 01:23:16 I think they're going to be looking and playing from behind for a good amount of time in this series. Hell yeah. Go ahead, AJ. Shams, with all these injuries and everything going on, does this put teams like – I know the Warriors with all these injuries and everything going on like does this put teams like i know the warriors lost their first game they're on one of their series they played tonight does this put like the warriors and the lakers in the forefront like hey this is ours
Starting point is 01:23:31 to take i mean aj it's crazy this year i've been following i've been a fan of the nba since the mid-2000s i've been watching year after year covering it since 2010 2011 i've never seen a postseason where you go into it and you have 11 or 12 teams out of 16 that really genuinely believe they can win a championship this year i i can't remember it and i think it is very unique for the league there's a lot of period in the league so whether that's the warriors the lakers the clippers we saw the clippers beat the suns last night and the suns have a lot of expectations right now phillyilly, Boston, Milwaukee out east, Cleveland out east, New York now out east. There's Denver, Golden State, Sacramento, Lakers, Clippers.
Starting point is 01:24:12 That's the whole field, yeah. Every team that's in the playoffs right now feel like they have a chance, and I think that's very unique. And the Warriors, Lakers, right now, if they can get by these series, they will be matched up in the second round. That's a pretty epic second round series right now. Yeah, we heard Greeny actually bopping his meat last week
Starting point is 01:24:27 to the thought of LeBron and Steph potentially battling in the second round. With all these injuries, we're truly going to find out if NBA at its highest level can compete for eyes without some of the superstars playing. I think they'll be able to do it. There's been some great basketball
Starting point is 01:24:43 taking place, some great moments taking place. I think the NBA should be thrilled. Let's turn off the injuries, though. Let's go in there, turn the injuries off completely, and let's see the best stuff. Speaking of people not playing, Connor has a question for you, Sean. Yeah, Sean, it's Paul George did not play last night, and I know it's been said that he won't play this entire series,
Starting point is 01:25:02 but in theory, let's say maybe this goes seven games, especially now that the Clippers won game one. Do you think there's a chance that he would suit it up if it was a seven-game type series? Or do the Clippers feel comfortable enough with the guys that they have now that they'll be able to get it done? He has not yet been fully ruled out of this series, but I think the Clippers, in their minds, they understand.
Starting point is 01:25:23 They have to get out of this first-round series, whether it's Game 7 or not, to be able to get Paul George back in the lineup. And it kind of reminds me a lot about Chris Middleton. Last year, he had a great two-MCL sprain. He ends up going in. He misses most of the entire second-round series. And it was unfortunate because the Bucs truly believe if he was in the lineup, they would have gotten by Boston and gotten to the conference finals.
Starting point is 01:25:50 And so injuries happen. If it's a game seven, it's tough for me to see Paul George out there, but hopefully he's able to make it back. But second round, I think, is for him where the clock starts to really begin. Yeah, they got Eric Gordon out of Indiana pulling up from the fucking logo right now. It does not matter. That hoop was bigger. Shout out IU.
Starting point is 01:26:08 Shout out Indiana. Eric Gordon was a great fit. They got him at the trade deadline, Pat. One of the most under radar trade deadline pickups of this year. Bro, he takes that fucker straight from his right shoulder. Perfect. We're talking beautiful. Catapult.
Starting point is 01:26:25 Just absolutely beautiful. You got good form there, Pat. I don't know, you know, copycat form. I don't know what that is, but I like the form, Pat. Normally, if I see something or see somebody do something, I can normally... Alright, let me see it again. And then I try to break down what they're doing. Eric Gordon, he might be my style of shooting for a couple
Starting point is 01:26:41 weeks, but then I move back to Larry. I shoot like Larry Bird every single larry this is how i shoot like larry bird every single time that's how i shoot right there sean so you know we're just trying to put the ball in the bucket eric gordon did that last night would that be normal will that be normal for the clippers clippers playing this good all the time i mean for sure kawaii leonard last night i think looked like the best player on the court when he's healthy he's one of the most elite players in the league for sure and this this is a pretty deep team. How about Russell? Russell Westbrook. Shout out
Starting point is 01:27:07 Russell Westbrook. He went out and even though he went 3 of 19, he had 10 rebounds, 8, 9 assists. Menace! He made winning plays at the end of the game. Winning plays matters and Russell Westbrook made a couple offensive rebounds, a couple defensive stops.
Starting point is 01:27:23 You don't need to shoot the ball to be effective. He did so. But this is a deep team. Westbrook, Zubach, Eric Gordon, they have guys coming off the bench. They're playing at a high level. So, yeah, I mean, the Clippers can. They can do this. They can get to the second round, and then the fun really begins.
Starting point is 01:27:38 They play Denver potentially in the second round. Joker is awesome to watch. I mean, I'm happy that he's getting a chance to be on national television for the world to watch. Ben Simmons just watched what Russell did and said, okay, I got only 10 years in the league. That's all I got to do. That's good news. That's good news. Tone has a question
Starting point is 01:27:55 for you. Shams, I'm paraphrasing here, but LeBron said about 8 to 10 years ago he knew that Austin Reeves was going to be a player that he could play with and was going to be a good fit for him. Is LeBron Nostradamus, and is he cool with being third, fourth fiddle on that Lakers team? Listen, I'm not going to speak to LeBron, but if you go on Twitter,
Starting point is 01:28:16 you can see a thread of him all the time. What? Been there. There have been some good predictions, you know, some good hindsight 2020 moments. But you know what? I will say this. In Lakers training camp, I interviewed Austin Ree know. He's going to drop 70. But you know what? I will say this. In Lakers training camp, I interviewed Austin Reeves.
Starting point is 01:28:28 I spoke to him about this. He got three people to be on his side really early last – I mean, it was literally a year and a half ago. This guy, Pat, Austin Reeves was literally picking up body wash as rookie errands for his teammates. Russell Westbrook, the star teammates on the Lakers. He was literally going to CVS and picking up body wash, soap, doing all the little chores. But I will say this, and I spoke to Austin Reeves.
Starting point is 01:28:52 The first training camp practice, LeBron James, Anthony Davis, Russell Westbrook, they all gave him respect. They all understood from the beginning, he's told me this, I do believe this, that they believed he would be a player. Now, again, I don't think this that they believed he would be a player now again I don't think anyone anyone thought he would be a guy that would be leading them to playoff victories a guy that could start in playoff games a guy that can score what do you have last night 19 points I mean a guy that can fill the stat sheet on a nightly basis so I mean shout out Austin Reeves
Starting point is 01:29:20 for what he's done 23 he went from a non-guarantee to a two-way to a full contract. And now he's going to be in line, Pat, for at least a four-year $51 million deal this offseason. Hell yeah. Ron James, you're right. I mean, he was playing standby a little bit and really watching Austin Reeves take over late in the game. All LeBron wants to do is win.
Starting point is 01:29:40 His basketball IQ is so high. He does not care how it happens, who happens. Let's just go on and win this. He said he appreciated Austin Reeves' basketball IQ is so high. He does not care how it happens, who happens. Let's just go on and win this. He said he appreciated Austin Reeves' basketball IQ from day one. Knew he was a smart player. Knew he'd be able to figure it out. Knew he was a guy that'd be good with LeBron. I also like the fact that he was a good rookie. He was cleaning up
Starting point is 01:29:55 soap. He's doing his old thing, just trying to buy in. White dude from Arkansas, about to sign four for 51. Think of the fucking country-ass shit he could have if he was to go back. That's the biggest thing with Austin, though. He doesn't make mistakes. It's very hard to find a young player that knows how to play the right way, doesn't make mistakes, doesn't force
Starting point is 01:30:12 things. I'll let you do the clapping, Pat. And he's not a nerd. Oh, man. He's got some edge. It seems like NBA releases his wired-up things a lot more loosely than everybody else's. You agree with that? I mean,
Starting point is 01:30:28 listen, they got some pretty boisterous comments from him. I'm him twice. You use it back to back. They gotta ah, you know, after he's back. Well, that's normally what it is, right? Aren't the mics up and we're like, hey, good work. Yep. Box up, box up. When Austin's
Starting point is 01:30:44 mic'd up, it's like, I'm him. I fucked your mother. Everything kind of comes out from Austin Reeves. It's an interesting give and take of what they let Austin say publicly versus everybody else, but I think it's only made him even bigger and better. I'm fucking pumped for him. The Lake show's all the way
Starting point is 01:31:00 back. It's going to be a difficult road, though. It's going to be a difficult road. Very hard. Especially if Russell Westbrook keeps playing defense the way he's playing. He was a menace last night, Sean. He was playing at a high level defensively. I think he had a stop. He had the block on Devin Booker. He got an offensive rebound.
Starting point is 01:31:16 Literally back-to-back-to-back high level plays just to win a game. It's not scoring. He made free throws as well. Two free throws. Clutched late in the game. And almost fought a guy in front of his kid. That's awesome. I mean, it was a full Russell Westbrook experience yesterday. Hopefully he can continue.
Starting point is 01:31:29 Go ahead, AJ. Shams, do we need to be worried about the Phoenix Suns and what's going on over there with Kevin Durant and everything? What are they going to do? Are they going to figure it out? Well, he's got to, I think, for sure be more aggressive. You saw Kawhi Leonard took 24 shots. Kevin Durant took 15 shots.
Starting point is 01:31:43 So maybe you'll see the shot total increase. But I think as a team, they just have to play a little be more aggressive. You saw Kawhi Leonard took 24 shots. Kevin Durant took 15 shots. So maybe you'll see the shot total increase. But I think as a team, they just have to play a little bit more energy. They have to bring it physically because we saw late in the game, Devin Booker made a drive. I think you can make a case. Russell Westbrook might have fouled him, but he didn't get the foul call Devin Booker after the game. He was complaining about the lack of a foul call.
Starting point is 01:32:02 But listen, if you're aggressive and you make aggressive plays, you might get that call at the latter stages of the game. So I think showing aggressiveness. But this is a team that isn't that, you know, they don't have that great of depth. And I think that's something to monitor with the Suns is coming off your bench. Which guys can you rely on? They really don't have a backup point guard. They have a guy named Campaign, Pat, that is out of the lineup right now.
Starting point is 01:32:23 He's got back spasms. He did not play game one. His status is up in the air for game two. They do need him. He's their backup point guard. So will he be back for game two? And will they have the depth, I think, to be able to compete? They had to play all three centers last night.
Starting point is 01:32:34 DeAndre Ayton, Bismack Biambo, and Jock Lando. They all played last night. Very rare for three centers to play in one game. I think we all should start our campaign for campaign to come back. That's right. They need them. When campaign comes back, it's all a bit changed. Diggs brought something up here, which I guess
Starting point is 01:32:49 we should have addressed early. Where are you right now? Are you in a jungle? Where are you exactly right now? It seems like an awesome place. I'm in a garden. Is that Bronze House? Is there any fountains in there?
Starting point is 01:33:03 I'm here to smell the roses. You know, I'm here to smell the roses. You got, you got, you got, you know, grass, you know, green. I'm all for green. Whoa. I'm outside of a hotel, unfortunately. You're outside your hotel right now? It's cool.
Starting point is 01:33:16 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's nice. Are you high right now, Sean? Are you in L.A.? You smoking dope? Yeah. Seems like it.
Starting point is 01:33:23 No, absolutely not. Absolutely not. You don't smoke dope, Sean, are you in L.A.? Are you smoking dope? Yeah. Seems like it. No, absolutely not. Absolutely not. You don't smoke dope, Sean, ever? I'm high off of doing Run It Back on FanDuel TV, Up and Adams on FanDuel TV, and Pat Mack on the show. Fuck. I fucked that one up. I said good morning, Adams. Yeah, that's what we say.
Starting point is 01:33:38 Wake up with J. It's a great show. Great show. I seen you on there this morning. You were crushing it. Oh, so you're out there in L.A. You are smoking dope. You never smoked dope, Choms?
Starting point is 01:33:48 Come on. Choms, you smoke dope? Come on, Choms. Never in my life. Never in my life. But you know what's crazy? Like we talked about, it is legal for NBA players. No marijuana testing.
Starting point is 01:34:00 No suspensions. No fines. Nothing. Marijuana is fully allowed now. Why don't you text me your address over there? Because California, you have the ability just to get weed delivered to you in a Tesla, in like an Apple box, pretty much, and it's just all ready for you. I think they got some strains now, Shams.
Starting point is 01:34:18 Might be able to cure your appetite at lunch a little bit. Or try it before lunch and enjoy it more. Yeah, might be able to hydrate you a little bit too, so you don't have to have those water reminders. I mean, there's a chance we can fix it all up there, Shams. Will it make me smarten the brain to understand that you
Starting point is 01:34:33 eat oatmeal with spoons and not forks or no? Shams, your brain is already fantastic with a couple little quirks. It is only going to amplify all that. You're only going to get better. I love the fact that you're just out there smoking dope all the time. Yeah, great. Ty has a question for you.
Starting point is 01:34:48 Shams, you look so cool in that garden outside the hotel. Oh, my God. Look how green that grass is. It's been raining out there in L.A. It's like the weedy smoking. It's overcast. I was on last week. It was overcast.
Starting point is 01:34:57 It's overcast again today. Pat, I don't know. I think I brought the Chicago weather. Are you living in L.A. now? No, I'm not. I'm going back to Chicago on Wednesday. Come with me, Pat. I'm not going to Chicago.
Starting point is 01:35:09 I've seen some videos out of Chicago. I've seen some videos out of L.A. and India, I guess. You go to Pittsburgh much? Never. Not an NBA team. Pittsburgh was alive this weekend. It was. Beautiful.
Starting point is 01:35:19 A lot of people walking through the streets, running, working out, shops open. It was gorgeous. Very alive. I don't think that's very normal for cities right now. I was pretty, shops open. It was very alive. I don't think that's very normal for cities right now. I was pretty proud of it. Is LA, how's LA right now? LA's LA. You know, I haven't had a LA moment.
Starting point is 01:35:33 I mean, it's overcast. It's hard to really fully get the LA experience. LA's a fucking dump. We all know it. We all know it. LA's been dead for years. It's a shit hole. You're just saying that because. Buster Conner. No, I'm saying that because it's the truth. You're saying that because Dana all know it. L.A. has been dead for years. It's a shit hole. You're just saying that because.
Starting point is 01:35:45 Busting Connor. No, I'm saying that because it's the truth. You're saying that because Dana White said it. Dana said it to you. That and also last time we were there, we saw 50 pounds of human shit on the sidewalk. You're going to get that in a lot of big cities. They swept up two blocks worth of human shit for that one pile. That's too much.
Starting point is 01:36:02 That's unbelievable. That should be 50 pounds. All right, before we get out of here, Shams, now that we we know you're all high and stuff ty has a question for you yeah shams i hate to do it because it doesn't matter because they're out of the playoffs but uh right after you came on last week and we talked about zion he had the uh listen zion will play when zion feels like zion again he said that and then the video came out where, you know, a lot of different Twitter profiles were, you know, tweeting the eye emojis, like, whoa, look at Zion.
Starting point is 01:36:30 He looked terrible. He could only get about a half an inch off the ground dunking. Where do they go from here with this guy? Seriously. Like, what happens next? What needs to be done? I mean, because now it really is starting to happen where everyone's like, yeah, if he doesn't turn it on, like, you know, this could be the end for Zion.
Starting point is 01:36:48 Yeah, they've got to have an intervention in New Orleans. You know, everyone with the Pelicans, I think Zion Williamson, they've got to figure out how to keep him on the floor healthy because, guys, when he's on the floor, this is a team that's competing for home court advantage. They're one of the best teams in the Western Conference. It's just how do you get Zion Williamson to the point where he's healthy and on the floor?
Starting point is 01:37:06 And you don't even need me to say it. CJ McCollum spoke after the loss in the playing tournament. He said, we all need to be better. We all need to have better professionalism. He spoke about diet. He spoke about sleeping patterns. CJ's fat? No, Zion is.
Starting point is 01:37:23 No, he said CJ saidj said and having the professionalism cj mccullum said this but i think everyone understood you know that zion williamson's at the head of this pelican snake everyone's got to be under the same mindset the same you know the minds they gotta be locked in and focused i think that starts with zion williamson um but like like like you guys said i, I came on the show. I tried to speak truth like I always do here. Hell yeah. And the fact of the matter was Zion Williamson,
Starting point is 01:37:52 whether he felt like he was ready to do everything, just was getting there mentally, whether he wants to go out and do a couple dunks pregame, he was not even close to getting back on the floor. The Pelicans basically had ruled him out of the first round. They were unsure he'd ever play in this postseason. If he was healthy, I'm told. So this is something we all hope.
Starting point is 01:38:11 We want to see Zion Williamson on the floor. We want to see him play at a high level. So we'll see. The Pelicans have to get together this summer with him. And he's got to – CJ McCollum also said this. He's got to want it as well and want to prove. CJ said that? CJ basically said we all have got to want it. We've all got to want it better. and want to prove. CJ said that? CJ Bates said we all have got to want it.
Starting point is 01:38:26 We've all got to want it. So you just kept saying he and then. Larry Nance said there's a first seed team somewhere in that locker room. We just have to get out there on the floor. Zion Williamson was the only guy that was not able to finish the season for the Pelicans. They need him on the floor, guys. They need him on the floor. They can be number one seed for sure in the Pelicans. They need him on the floor, guys. They need him on the floor. They can be
Starting point is 01:38:45 number one seed for sure in the Western Conference. So you said head of the snake a lot clearer than LeBron James says those words. You know that? Well, listen, I was a communication English major. What school? I'll just say I went to school for that.
Starting point is 01:39:01 What school? Loyola Chicago. Shout out Ramblers. 2018, Final 14. Oh, that's a big guy. Yeah. Can't wait. Does he know Sister Jean? Do you know Sister Jean?
Starting point is 01:39:12 You ever meet Sister Jean? There's a picture somewhere online of us. I'll send it to you, Pat. It's got to be better than the picture they put up for her this year. Yeah, I couldn't even see her eyes. They put a picture on the internet of her this year that they should not have done that. Sister Jean. I took a picture with her in February or March. She march she looked beautiful exactly hell yeah shout out sister jean 103 years old she was looking beautiful oh the other day on the jet shop easy patty louise we
Starting point is 01:39:36 get it all right we agree jeez christ all right if this eric Eric Gordon 3 goes in right now, Shams, how many merches are we giving away? We're giving away 24 in honor of Paul George's number. Jesus. 24 is Paul George's number. His number is 13. Okay. That's Paul George's number. What the hell?
Starting point is 01:39:56 PG-13. I'm thinking about Pacers. Oh, no. Pacers, PG. Hold on. He was 24 on the Pacers. Someone looked at him. There's a lot of people that are number 24, though.
Starting point is 01:40:03 Come on. 24. Sitting in right now. Eric Gordon style. Yeah, Eric Gordon style. Let's see. Hurry up, Pat. Oh.
Starting point is 01:40:14 That's a tough thing. Let him shoot. That's a tough thing. All right. Three on three. PMS three on three. Boom. Do the Larry Bird form.
Starting point is 01:40:23 That'll help. Larry Bird form right here. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, looks so good. Larry. Oh! All right.
Starting point is 01:40:39 All right. That's cool. Larry's 33. We're not giving away that many mergers. Nope. We'll make them 10, though. 10 mergers for Shams and for the shop being made. All you got to do cool. Larry's 33. We're not giving away that many mergers. Nope. We'll make them 10, though. 10 mergers for Shams and for the shop being made.
Starting point is 01:40:49 All you got to do is retweet this video. Say something nice to Shams Sharania. And we... Oh, yeah, because it's just mergers. We don't need anything else. Just mergers. We'll potentially choose you to win. Shams, we can't thank you enough for joining us, buddy. You're the best.
Starting point is 01:41:00 Appreciate you guys. Thank you. Good luck to the NBA. We hope nobody else gets hurt in anything ever. Ladies and gentlemen, Sean Shaw. How about that? Fantastic. Larry.
Starting point is 01:41:10 You reverted back a little bit on that one. Yeah, so the first one I did try Larry and then I went, uh, it's just soccer throw here. As it was flying through the air, I thought, hey, that's look good. Sister Jean and Sean do look fantastic. I mean, he was kind of getting a little sultry whenever he was talking about her. Look good. Sister Jean and Shams do look fantastic. I mean, he was kind of getting a little sultry whenever he was talking about her.
Starting point is 01:41:25 Yeah, actually, funny enough, look at his pants. Yeah, what's going on in his pants there? What do you see? Hold the phone. What do you mean? Does he have a candy bar in his pocket? Let's answer some phone calls here. Cool pants.
Starting point is 01:41:39 Why is Sister Jean wearing size 18 shoes? Honestly, who knows? That's what happens. Because don't they say your feet and ears keep growing and nose? Yeah. Honestly, who knows? That's what happens. Because don't they say her feet and ears keep growing and nose? Yeah. So she's got absolute mammoth feet. And her nose, 103 years old. Those ears too? Jeez, Louise. Her ears can hear from
Starting point is 01:41:57 two miles away. That's right. And then she takes four steps and she's there. What did the PMS boys just say? She can smell us. Let's go to the phones. Let's go to Malik in New York on the 5RNG phone line. Malik, what's going on, pal? Hey, Pat, AJ, and the boys.
Starting point is 01:42:13 How you doing? Keep it moving, sir. Oh, man, so excited to be here. Congratulations to Nick and the wife. So glad you guys got to go out there and celebrate with them. Hell yeah. I've also got to thank you guys for everything you guys do. When I was in the hospital for two weeks, you guys got me through all of it.
Starting point is 01:42:29 Love listening to the show every day. Thanks for letting us be there with you, pal. Happy to hear you're okay, it sounds like. Malik had a baby. Way to kick some ass. Had to do it. But with the Stefan Diggs situation, I've been wondering, you know, in your big brain section, like when you had that whole breakdown
Starting point is 01:42:45 with him on Ramsey, the way that he and Josh had that connection, when he's been out here saying that he wants to come to the Giants, which I love, how does that affect the locker room moving forward with him being so vocal about wanting to be out in his relationship with Josh and the way that playoff game ended? With you and AJ, How did that happen? Is that what he said? Yeah, he and his brother have been texting back and forth
Starting point is 01:43:10 how nice it would be for them to see each other twice a year. And, you know, he's been hinting at wanting to go to the Giants. So in the locker room, how does that play out? Like, I know he and Josh weren't on the best of terms at the end of the game. So I know he just kind of left. He didn't even say anything to anyone. They had to bring him back in. Oh, yeah, I remember that.
Starting point is 01:43:28 It was kind of a good call, Malik. Yeah, remember? Stephon Diggs just left. This was a big deal. We talked about this. Remember? Yeah. His coach said I'd much rather have it that way
Starting point is 01:43:40 than him not caring about losing. Yeah. But it was certainly something. He took all the Buffalo shit off of his stuff, too. Yeah, yep. Who was he pissed at, though? Was he upset about the loss? Was he pissed about eating the balls?
Starting point is 01:43:51 Like, who was he upset about? Yeah, I don't know. And have we found any of those answers? He went on that podcast and basically said, like, I don't know what else we need to do to get over the hump. He was like, it seems like we try to bring guys in, and, like, we feel like we're there, and then we just lose in the playoffs. He was like, I don't know what else we can actually do
Starting point is 01:44:09 to get over the hump and win a Super Bowl. Yeah, and in classic post-2019 era, his social media action has led us to believe that there's continued beef, like the Buda Baker thing. The way we found out about that first was somebody seen that on his Twitter. He took Arizona out of his bio. And it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. And back in the day, people were like, all right, like that matters.
Starting point is 01:44:31 It's like, hate to break to you. It does. Big time. A lot of people have just taken their team right off their Instagram, right off their Twitter, either out of their location or the photos with them. It's like a breakup. You know, whenever you break up with somebody, it's like, okay, let's go ahead and get this person completely
Starting point is 01:44:46 off this page. I don't want anybody to know that we were ever together ever. It's kind of what players do with teams. Now, we have seen people break up with a team on social media, no longer take it on Facebook, and then get back together. Kyle Murray. And then reload
Starting point is 01:45:01 all of those photos back up there. Kyler is the most recent and the biggest contract. So we're not saying it's over-over, but it certainly means that there's a little bit of something brewing. And Brandon Bean, who kind of has his, I don't want to say ear to the ground, but kind of ear to the ground in all those situations, he knows that Stephon Diggs isn't happy, especially because if he was to see this situation happen at another team,
Starting point is 01:45:23 he would call them and say, hey, I heard something's up, just like he did when Stephon Diggs was at the Vikings. So I do wonder if there's going to be a play made there. I didn't see the Giants stuff. I did not know that was happening. But Stephon Diggs goes from a fifth-round pick to a guy that I think every team would love to have on there. Just why won't it work in Buffalo
Starting point is 01:45:41 is what everybody will ask the question. Yeah, he'd be unbelievable with the Giants, you assume, if St. Quag comes back and all that gets figured out, but it must be difficult for the Bills, especially now with Rodgers, you know, impending coming to the Jets. Like, they've been so close these last few years. They were the Super Bowl
Starting point is 01:45:56 favorites last year. Josh Allen was the MVP favorite last year. Like, at what point is it like, okay... Oh, yeah, this is your thing, though. No, and this is my thing, but seriously... It is your thing. With... Isn't it? It is kind of, okay. Oh, yeah, this is your thing, though. No, and this is my thing. But seriously. It is your thing. Isn't it? It is kind of his thing. It has become your thing.
Starting point is 01:46:08 It has been. AJ, you remember this is his thing. But let's keep in mind, too, like they haven't been to an AFC championship. So, like, they went to one, but that's when they were kicking field goals and the Chiefs beat them by 20. Like, there has to be some feeling in the Buffalo locker room. Like, okay, do I not? Is this not the place that's going to win the championship? That's right.
Starting point is 01:46:29 What are you saying about their window? I am not going to say their window is closed. Whoa, this is a brand new car. There's no chance they win the Super Bowl. Just putting it out there. So, window closed. Oh, so closed. The window's not there.
Starting point is 01:46:46 Window never existed. Window can't be closed if they ever went to a Super Bowl. This is back in the day, Ireland, whenever it split. Boom. I don't know if it was South Ireland or North Ireland. I think Ireland, South Ireland, which is now just known as Ireland. Yeah, Northern Ireland. Yeah, so whenever it left, there was a big war.
Starting point is 01:47:03 Northern Ireland folks, I believe they're Protestant. I don't know. One of the religions. They came in. They were charging people for window space in their apartments. So, like, there's places around Ireland that you go to where the windows are, like, this big. Tiny, look like jail cell windows. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:21 Because of how much money it costs taxes to have that particular window. Some places had no windows. Actual basements on the second floor, no windows at all because they didn't want to pay for it. You're saying they're one of those. You're saying the Buffalo Bills had no fucking windows. This is not just a jail cell. This is the hole. This is the darkness that Aaron
Starting point is 01:47:38 went into. That's what you're saying the Buffalo Bills are? I'm more so saying that they have curtains and it's one of those hotel rooms where you pull the curtains back and there aren't any windows. So saying that they have a tiny window, that'd be a different situation. I think it's completely gone. Golly, that's crazy. People pay good money to go into those
Starting point is 01:47:54 types of rooms. Absolutely. Heard Aaron did it. Yeah, he did. I mean, what kind of hotels are you going into, Con Man? You open the curtains up and there's no window. Are you going to North Korea? No, no, no. I just saw a clip of it. I've never been to North Korea. Really? Yeah, I know. That's, no. I just saw a clip of it. I've never been to North Korea. Really? Yeah, I know. That's probably good.
Starting point is 01:48:07 I've been to China. Okay. Excuse me? Well, you know. Geez. Why do you say it like that? Yeah, what? Because I've been and I can say it
Starting point is 01:48:15 however the fuck I want. Oh, okay. Yeah. Hey, do whatever you need to do. I've walked a great wall. Okay, bank. Way to go. Boom.
Starting point is 01:48:23 Thank you. The whole thing? That's a real pride. The whole thing. Way to go. Boom. Thank you. The whole thing? That's a real pride. The whole thing. Did you stop by the Capitol? No, I did not make actually, yes, I did stop by the Capitol. Really? Have any meetings? Not with any government officials. On this Patriots Day.
Starting point is 01:48:39 Wow. No kidding. Wow. Sorry, I tried to mend the fences. Unfortunately. So you're the Dennis Rodman in North Korea? You're the... I'm the guy they send to China and I try and figure it out. I think you're the right guy. Yeah, but nothing good has happened to me yet. Apparently.
Starting point is 01:48:56 Because what I've been hearing. Not good. No. Not at all. Hope everybody's okay out there. Yep. Hope everybody's okay out there. They aren't.
Starting point is 01:49:04 They aren't. Jeez Louise. A couple things that have taken place in the sports world Our sports world over the weekend Jim Irsay said maybe Huh we And then he would go on to say Also maybe We uh
Starting point is 01:49:19 And then he'd go on to say Or not So a lot of options there at four. There's a lot of shit coming out about C.J. Stroud right now. Seems like that noise is being made. Joining us in about seven minutes will be Michael Lombardi, who's been saying a lot of things, and it's been taken to a lot of different levels of conversation
Starting point is 01:49:38 because Michael Lombardi knows everybody. The C.J. Stroud stuff, I think, is the most interesting topic of the draft because we might get the next Thursday, Draft Spectacular, the 27th, starting at 8 p.m. Eastern. We have surprises in store. It'll be our biggest Draft Spectacular to date. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:56 We got guest GMs live from war rooms calling in. We'll be following along as the most unpredictable draft over the last, seemingly, seemingly 10 years it feels like yeah we'll have its first day but the cj stroud story is becoming a real thing houston texans not taking a quarterback oh why is that houston texans might not want cj stroud is that what it means cj stroud's this cj stroud's that is this all smoke you think from another team like maybe
Starting point is 01:50:23 the colts at four trying to get C.J. Stroud to fall. What are your thoughts on these types of storylines before we get into the draft? A.J. Hawk. Well, what are we? Probably 10 days from the draft? When's the date of the draft? Good math. 27th. Next Thursday. Okay, there we go. I don't know. The fact that it's picked up
Starting point is 01:50:39 right now, these last 7-10 days before the draft, it's really tough to know anything of what is real, what is not real. would be it would be surprising i think if bryce young goes one and the texans either pick a defender or trade out or don't take a qb and they were another qb set up for a future yeah or another qb they took like will levis there too well that would be shocking anthony richardson would be shocking too i think any of them would be somewhat shocking but yeah hendon hooker at two what is real would be shocking but we have I think. Any of them would be somewhat shocking. But, yeah. Handed hooker at two. What is real? Would be shocking.
Starting point is 01:51:06 But we have no idea what's real at this point. We honestly have no clue what could happen. That number three overall pick becomes very vital if the Houston Texans at two don't take a quarterback. That means, okay, three quarterbacks apparently people are interested in. We still don't know. We'll find out draft night how interested teams actually are. Because, remember, Malik Willis was going to be a first rounder yeah he ended up in the third round so everything could
Starting point is 01:51:28 be an absolute lie but the stories about cj stroud are getting loud right now and it's like is there a reason or is this just everybody kind of coming to the same conclusion if that either one of them is the case it's interesting but if everybody's coming to the same conclusion that's that's great for the colts at four this guy sucks let him uh you know what i mean he's terrible to the same conclusion. That's great for the Colts at four. This guy sucks. Let him, you know what I mean? He's terrible. I've met him one time, didn't shake my hand. Didn't look me in the eye. This guy should not be picked in the top three of the NFL draft. He does not deserve it.
Starting point is 01:51:54 Four, maybe. We'll see. But a top three overall pick, C.J. Stroud, I don't think so. I'm saying that because how incredibly selfish I am as a Colts fan, as a man that got to watch him play against Georgia down there. And you see him, you go, oh, that's a fucking Sunday quarterback right there. But everybody else seems to be saying a little bit differently.
Starting point is 01:52:11 I don't know if it's smokescreen bullshit or they're doing what I'm doing, Tone. It's a wild time. Great for the Colts at four. And so before the combine, Bryce Young was the favorite to go number one overall. And then when the number one pick went to the Carolina Panthers, C.J. Stroud became like a minus 300 favorite to go number one overall. And now it's back to Bryce Young going minus 400 overall. And we know this.
Starting point is 01:52:37 This is the one time where we know pretty much just as much as the books. Or at least the books think in this case that there's enough smoke where there may be fire in this situation talking about cj stroud that they definitely don't think that he's going number one overall right now it's interesting bryce young apparently the pick is what everybody has said to carolina so then you just assume cj is going to go number two overall yeah all right so who's going to go get cj too here at the colts i assume the texans will not trade with us so let's go get our franchise quarterback no but they need a quarterback why don't they think cj stroud is our franchise quarterback. But they need a quarterback. Why don't they think C.J. Stroud is the franchise quarterback? Or once again,
Starting point is 01:53:08 is this all bullshit? And that's what April 27th will kind of put an end to is all the potential smokescreen lies or truths that are out there and who's right, who's wrong. Or maybe Will Anderson's just that good. It feels like for these last two years. Is he better than getting a franchise quarterback? Because they have that 12 overall
Starting point is 01:53:24 pick, like is Hennon Hooker one of their favorite quarterbacks? And they think, hey, at 12, we can either move up to get Hendon, maybe at like nine, or he'll fall to us. And we don't have to make these tough decisions and then look like absolute fools passing on Will Anderson, who could be a premier pass rusher in the NFL for the next 10 years. Or that other guy from Texas Tech. What's his name? Tyree Wilson. His name's stuck in there NFL for the next 10 years. Or that other guy from Texas Tech. What's his name?
Starting point is 01:53:45 Tyree Wilson. His name's stuck in there as of the last couple days. You know him, AJ? I don't know a bunch about him. I've tried to watch a little bit more as people talk about him. Yeah, I mean, it's tough to know which guys. They all look great on film, I feel like, especially when you're talking about these top five, top ten dudes.
Starting point is 01:54:01 You just know, okay, what system would he fit best in? How does it translate to the NFL? And D'Amico domico defensive head coach his first year being a head coach well casario came out and said i'm not going anywhere so he has some time to build you'd assume over the next couple years they didn't get a quarterback last year they don't get a quarterback this year too there will certainly be a question but they could kevin costner this thing they could end up trading back trading up because you go back to 12, you get rid of that one, you just keep your 12th overall pick. You could bundle
Starting point is 01:54:30 that with 33, I think they have, and trade up back in. There's a lot of moves that could be made by a lot of the people there at the top if they don't have exactly who they want, but we're certainly going to overreact as it's happening in real time. I saw something. Pellicero just put up a tweet that Bryce Young
Starting point is 01:54:45 has canceled his remaining visits or whatever and it seems like the momentum is going towards him at number one. So who knows? Yeah, everybody's kind of talked about that. Everybody's kind of talked that Bryce Young's the guy. Joining us now
Starting point is 01:55:02 is a man who's had every single job in the NFL. His name has been trending almost every other day for the last week and a half, two weeks, because he has plugged in to literally every single team in the NFL. Has been around the NFL for four decades. He's been a GM, a coach's assistant, a Super Bowl champion, a speaker, a podcast host, the GM shuffle, and the Lombardi line live show host. He's a newsletter writer, the daily coach. He's a TED Talk giver. He's a newsletter writer, the daily coach. He's a Ted talk giver.
Starting point is 01:55:26 He's a big fucking brain. He's a pies on just like me, ladies and gentlemen, Michael Lombardi. Good to be here. It's good to be back with you guys. Hope all is well. Congratulations. Big wedding. I know you got a big day coming, so it's all great.
Starting point is 01:55:41 Hell yeah. Life's good over here. We're much better whenever you're around us though. You look great out there in Vegas still. Thank you, my man. Yeah. Stay away from the buffet lines.
Starting point is 01:55:49 It's really not, not an easy thing to do. When I started my career, it was in Vegas and it was 1981. And my job, I made $6,000 a year and I got buffet tickets. So I've learned to stay away from them. Hello. Back. Yeah. All right. Sorry. I've learned to stay away from them. Hello?
Starting point is 01:56:08 Back. Yeah, all right. There you go. AJ's call just dropped out of nowhere. We assumed that the trophy that he got this weekend was too big. It was like a satellite interfering with the line. That makes sense. But you are crushing it out in Vegas,
Starting point is 01:56:19 and we can't thank you enough for joining us. We fucking love you, pal. You've been trending every other day talking about this draft. I don't know how closely you follow on Twitter or how closely you follow everything that you say, but the reactions have been massive because what you've been saying have been a little bit different
Starting point is 01:56:34 than what everybody else is saying. Let's dive in, shall we? We all know that Casario came from New England. There's a lot of New England contingency down there. You also had deep ties to New England. So whenever you speak about something happening in Houston, in this particular studio, in this particular office, we go, hey, Pombo knows what the fuck he's talking about. So whenever you talk about maybe them not getting a quarterback or maybe something about C.J. Stroud, then we see Schefter saying, hey, there's a chance
Starting point is 01:56:57 the Texans don't take a quarterback. We start piecing two and two together that maybe the Texans aren't as high on C.J. Stroud as we can imagine that they are, that we thought they were. And ever since you kind of talked about that, there's been a plethora of stories that have come out, not too many, but it seems like a narrative is trying to be built about C.J. Stroud maybe not being the best NFL quarterback going forward when that wasn't what we had heard all the way up until like a week and a half ago. What are your hearing? What are your thoughts? And you're the one that told us this is lying season. Are you just a part of the bullshit to potentially get C.J. Stroud to a team? Whoa. No, I don't think I am, though, you know, who knows.
Starting point is 01:57:32 But I watched the tape, and I think, look, when you're in a situation where you are at Houston, I think it's pretty clear when you watch the tape, Bryce Young was the best quarterback in this draft. We can debate other things, but Bryce Young was ready to play. And I think the Carolina situation where they were debating back and forth, I think that was a little bit of liar's poker. I think they were going to take Bryce Young all along. They did their due homework, and I believe that'll be the pick. I think Stroud's about comfortability. You know, he plays in an offense where he doesn't really,
Starting point is 01:58:06 he looks to the sideline to call plays. You know, and it's a number system, so it's not as familiar. You know, he doesn't call the play. He doesn't get it into. Levis at Kentucky did. Richardson, the same thing. So a lot of this is teams learn about the players as they're coming through their facility.
Starting point is 01:58:23 Stroud's not, I'm not saying he's a bad player. What I'm saying about Houston and I've said about Houston is they're going to take the best player. I don't think they're as quarterback hungry as everybody wants them to be. They need a quarterback. There's no denying it. But they have two number ones next year. And D'Amico Ryans is in this for the long haul.
Starting point is 01:58:39 Why not take the best player? Why take a risk? Got it. So A.J. Hawk joins us again. Obviously, he is the Ohio champion risk? Got it. So A.J. Hawk joins us again. Obviously, he is the Ohio champion. Great to see you, A.J. He was just talking about Houston.
Starting point is 01:58:50 He believes that Houston's going to take the best player available, especially in D'Amico's first year. He is a defensive guy. Will Anderson is the best player available there. Do you think there's any chance now, if they're not going to take quarterback, if the world knows that, what, their pick is very expensive right now? Do you think they think about moving out there? Or three overall all of a sudden becomes like almost a free-for-all
Starting point is 01:59:11 for anybody that needs a quarterback? Or do you think that we're not at that level with the talent that C.J. Stroud, Anthony Richardson, Will Levis, or Hennon Hooker have? All right, let me start on the second part. I think every quarterback other than Young has something wrong with them. And when I say something wrong with them, I don't mean socially. I mean in terms of their game, what they lack, what they need to do, what they must improve on. Look, today's a great day for any player because Jalen Hurts proved that if you work on your weaknesses
Starting point is 01:59:38 and you work diligently and you become someone who's dedicated, then you can improve. And all these quarterbacks are going to have to improve they all have something wrong with them right and the teams are looking at that and they're saying which one will work the hardest to improve the second best player in this draft and i want to be really clear here the second best player in this draft is jaylen carter now jaylen carter is dominant at whatever he does wherever Wherever he goes, he's the second best. It's not Will Anderson. It's Carter. However, Carter's got some issues, the weight gain, the seriousness of the problem that happened on the campus of the University of Georgia, his off-the-field investigation into
Starting point is 02:00:16 that situation, the weight gain, all those things. But Carter is just purely watching football players play football, the second best defensive player. And I believe Houston will take the best defensive front seven guy. Everybody says, why not take a risk on the quarterback? Look, if you're Seattle Detroit and you're picking up this high, you better take the best player, especially on defense. And I'll give you a Walshism. As great of a coach as Bill Walsh was and as great as he was as an offensive mind he believed this you need to draft the best 11 players for defense because
Starting point is 02:00:52 you can't hide a defensive player and I think that's what's going to run this draft hasn't been really chatted about much everything's been about the top four who's going to go at the quarterback position seems like defense is going to be top-heavy in Lumbo's mind. What do you got, AJ? Former number five overall pick, Mike Linebacker. If C.J. Stroud does not go in the top two picks, how far do you think he could fall and where could he go? That's the one I'm having a hard time on where it could go. Again, you know, it's hard to predict.
Starting point is 02:01:21 It's easy to say to the people that call you on the phone, we're going to take a quarterback because people think you need a quarterback. So it's not really a lie, but you're fibbing. And I think there's a lot of fibbing going on. I'm not sure where he goes. I'm not sure where he fits. I do think the Colts will pick a quarterback at four. I love Jim Irsay's tweet. He basically laid it out. We can do anything. But I think at the end of the day, the Colts are sitting there saying whoever we take it for at quarterback is going to have some issues. And I think we're going to take the one that has the least amount. I think they would take Levis over anybody else, but I could be wrong on that. I don't know. I think it really comes down to Steichen and Ballard
Starting point is 02:01:58 deciding which one has the least amount of risk that they could take and they put in their locker room. Could he go at four? I think teams are now starting to accept that Stroud's not going two and I think more work's being done. Okay, so your general manager, Chris Ballard, we're sitting at four. C.J. Stroud's available. Will Levis is available. Anthony Richardson is available. Hennon Hooker's available. Michael Lombardi, general manager of the Indianapolis Colts, is taking? Based on tape, I would take Stroud.
Starting point is 02:02:32 But here's what I would answer your question. All right. If I were the GM of the Colts, I would ask Mr. Ursae if I could borrow one of his planes, and I would fly down to see Lamar Jackson. And I would show Lamar Jackson this Jalen Hurts contract and say, Lamar, this is not guaranteed. We've seen three contracts since Watson's deal that have not been fully guaranteed. I want to make you an Indianapolis Colt.
Starting point is 02:02:55 I put Lamar Jackson on this team with the Colts are, all of a sudden I'm relevant. If I were in Washington and I put Lamar Jackson on that team, I'm relevant. I think this contract for Hurts opens the door up to have and I put Lamar Jackson on that team I'm relevant I think this contract for Hurts opens the door up to have a conversation with Lamar about not you know not everything's going to have to be guaranteed buttoned up and if I were Chris Ballard I would be on that airplane here's the thing that's interesting everybody says for the last three months two months you can't pay a quarterback and go to the Super Bowl. Well, the Eagles just paid Hurts a lot of money. They're planning on going to the Super Bowl. So why wouldn't I try to get the best quarterback? Why would I take a risk with Stroud or a risk with Levis when I could
Starting point is 02:03:34 go get Lamar Jackson or at least try to get Lamar Jackson? You say, well, you got to give up a number. You got to give up two number ones. No, I don't. I give up one number one because I'm going to pick somebody at four anyway. I'm picking a better player at four with lamar than i would be drafted any one of those guys so it's next year's one that technically you'd be giving up but if we win who gives a fuck that one's going to be at 30 31 32 anyways right i mean it's like the jets are now waiting the jets are in the perfect place they're going to give up the packers are going to take a pick somewhere between 25 and 32 for aaron rogers when their 13th pick is sitting there like you don't you want wouldn't you rather have that the jets are loving this they want the draft to get over with without getting rogers because they get all those picks okay so you would take cj stroud
Starting point is 02:04:20 at four but why are we even thinking about that give me lam Lamar Jackson. Let's visit the Jalen Hurts deal. And the Chiefs paid Patrick Mahomes. They obviously just won the Super Bowl. Matthew Stafford got paid. They won the Super Bowl. Tom Brady got $50 million guaranteed. They won the Super Bowl. You can pay a quarterback. Obviously, you just got to be able to build up around the team. Some GMs have been able to do that. Some GMs
Starting point is 02:04:40 have been able to do it and got injuries that have popped up out of nowhere. I mean, the NFL is a wild game, but you got to have a fucking quarterback. The Colts need a quarterback. Why aren't they into Lamar Jackson? And do you think this deal with Jalen gets the Lamar deal done soon? Like the Ravens probably will give exactly, just say exactly what Philly did to Lamar. You think that'll be the case?
Starting point is 02:04:59 You said the Colts should do that, but won't Baltimore just do that as well? And do you think that ship has already sailed? I think if I were Baltimore and I was Steve, we're going to find out if Baltimore really wants to sign Lamar that's what we're going to find out now do they really want to sign him or they just want him to play on the tender we're going to find that out because to me look they signed Odell Beckham because that's what Lamar Lamar said I want Hopkins or Beckham yeah who told you had a source that told you that that that was said there Well, here's – let me get it back up. They thought they had a trade for Cortland Sutton, the Baltimore Ravens.
Starting point is 02:05:28 That trade fell apart, and then they went after Beckham. Now, look, the Beckham deal, for all we talk about, Beckham's had 67 catches in his last two seasons. I mean, he hasn't – you know, he's made a lot of money, but the way this NFL has gone with receivers, I think there's 15 or 16 receivers making over 20 million a year I mean Mike Evans at 13.5 is one of the biggest bargains in the league right now you know and so the receiver market has kind of escalated so the Beckham deal
Starting point is 02:05:56 on the surface is expensive I don't know who the competition was but they needed to show something to Lamar that they were going to have a receiving corps around them. Could they get Hopkins? Hopkins now says he doesn't want a raise. For the most of the time, that was about money. It was about getting a raise. We'll see. But to me, they had to extend that olive branch. I would think that to me, you get on an airplane, you show Lamar and his mom, here's the deal that Jalen Hurts just signed.
Starting point is 02:06:22 It's not fully guaranteed. So we've had three deals. We've had Russell Wilson, we've had Kyler Murray, and we've had Hurts now that haven't been fully buttoned up. So let's do a deal. Okay, I hope they're able to do that. I hope there's a couple hundred million dollars going to Lamar Jackson because I can't wait to see what he buys.
Starting point is 02:06:40 You know what I mean? Can't wait to see what he does with it. I hope he's an Indianapolis Colt. I doubt it, though, because what Jim Irsay said was, maybe or maybe or not. So didn't hear anything. Everybody could be lying. Excited to hear who is and who isn't.
Starting point is 02:06:58 Speaking of lying, some more shit came out of this situation. Ty, I have a question for you, Lambeau. Yeah, Michael, going back to the Jets and the Packers, early last week there was a report that said the Packers and the Jets had already agreed on compensation. The Packers were going to get the Jets' 13th overall pick, but then Woody Johnson heard that, you know, Rodgers was 90% going to retire going into the darkness, and that kind of spooked him, and he walked that back. Since then, a lot of insiders have said that's bullshit, that was never true, that they had never agreed to compensation.
Starting point is 02:07:27 Do you believe that? Do you think the Packers, that's why they're kind of holding firm here because they had already been promised the 13th pick? And is that common? Like when you were a GM where you would come to an agreement with the team and then whatever would happen, someone would get cold feet and that kind of causes everything to fall apart? I think from my experiences, whenever you let a team talk to a player without an agreement on a
Starting point is 02:07:50 trade you've basically removed all your leverage so if the packers were willing to let the jets negotiate with rogers and have conversations without agreeing on compensation this is what you're going to get into because now the player and the team are working against you. You follow me? They're working against you. They're saying, I'm only playing for the Jets. So if you don't trade me to the Jets, there's nothing. You have to have that agreed upon.
Starting point is 02:08:17 And in exchange in an email, look, we will trade you Aaron Rodgers. You have permission to talk to Aaron Rodgers. If you're going to give us back the 13th pick overall in the draft you sign off on that you don't send it to the league office but in agreement you have to have that or else you lose any leverage in this negotiation it made no sense at all for the Packers to just say oh please talk to Aaron Rodgers go ahead do whatever you like and then come back to us now I'm trapped I have no way to go it's the dumbest thing of all so to me the Packers had to have something in to go it's the dumbest thing of all so to me
Starting point is 02:08:45 the packers had to have something in that they're not that dumb they had to have something that said they had a deal because now they're they're they're 20 down in the fourth quarter they're playing from behind we got 10 days yeah it's close you know have you heard anything here's the thing i think people misconstrue up pat every trade is a player for player okay every trade's a player for a player i don't give a crap about this draft pick nonsense oh we traded a one for that guy well that one becomes a player the raiders traded amari cooper for basically jonathan abrams that's what the trade ended up being okay it's player for player so when you're a general manager in the league and you could get and you know if i trade aaron rogers i get the 13th pick i know what player i don't know
Starting point is 02:09:29 specifically what i'm getting but i have an idea of what i'm gonna get if i trade him for next year's one i have no idea what i'm getting so i'm trading blind i'm trading blind i have no idea what i'm getting and i think that's ultimately where they are. And it favors the Jets tremendously. I'm excited to see how it works out, what the compensation is, and what the Jets look like with Aaron Rodgers as quarterback because it seems like all parties just assume it's going to take place. No deal has been done. We are still just waiting in the dark but not in Oregon.
Starting point is 02:10:00 We can't poop with the lights on. Connor has a question for you, Lombo. Yeah, Lombo, I saw you talking about the Giants last week and how it must be upsetting for Saquon and Dexter Lawrence to sit back and see. Who would have thought, Lombo? Who would have thought? With Saquon being one of those franchise
Starting point is 02:10:16 tag players, obviously that situation's one thing, but with Josh Jacobs and now obviously Lamar and Evan Ingram, from a front office perspective, how big of a pain in the ass is it when the player you tag doesn't sign it and then how do you see some of those situations playing out well I think look every player is going to say they're not going to sign the tender I mean Barkley's saying he's not signing the tender they're talking about you
Starting point is 02:10:39 know Dalvin Cook could get released you know and so because of the contract in Minnesota's cap situation you know Dalvin Cook's a hell of a player. Every player says they're not going to sign the franchise. And then you remind them that Kirk Cousins has made $231 million from not signing, from signing the franchise and $229 of it's been guaranteed. So, like, there is benefits to signing the one-year deal because if you want to be a free agent, you get another year. You get guaranteed money and you get to go back out in the market again. You keep dipping, and the price keeps going up if they want to retain your services. So, look, I mean, Jesse Bates this time last year said there's no way he's playing for the Bengals.
Starting point is 02:11:16 He would never come in, and guess what? He came in. George Young, the former general manager of the New York Football Giants, said a great thing. He said football players play football. At some point, they're going to come in. You can say Le'Veon Bell did the right thing by holding out. I think it was ridiculous. I think it wasn't the right
Starting point is 02:11:30 thing when you turned down $14 million. I'm sure he'd like to have that $14 million back. Two albums, though. He dropped two albums. Yeah, and he said he wanted 17 M's. You know what I mean? I heard that in a freestyle in his front yard. That was not on the album, though. But he did get 30-some guaranteed afterwards from the Jets,
Starting point is 02:11:46 so business-wise, I think he could probably sleep at night. He could have got the $30 million from the Jets if he'd have taken the $14 million, and then he would have got $30 million. They would have had to franchise him again. Oh. You know what I mean? The meter, you keep going.
Starting point is 02:11:59 Hey, what happens there if he gets hurt, though, and never gets to play football again? That's why you have insurance, and that's why you have agents to pay to make sure you've got that insurance file. Oh, Lloyd's of London. Yeah, that thing will cost you $155,000 for if your leg gets sawed off.
Starting point is 02:12:12 You know what I mean? And you can't walk again. Yeah, I know. It is a little difficult, but you got to find a way to protect yourself. I got the Lloyd's of London thing. Insurance, when I got franchise tagged and as I'm signing it and going through it, I'm like, this is the biggest piece of trash I've ever
Starting point is 02:12:28 signed in my entire life. Not that I'm a big insurance better at blackjack. You know what I mean? I'm never, hey, it pays two to one. What do you think? Faces are coming. I never do it. I'm not a big believer in that, but it was like, all right, franchise tag. I got a lot of years left. There's millions of dollars. I got to do this.
Starting point is 02:12:44 Then they start telling you how much you got to pay for what in return. It's like, all right, franchise tag. I got a lot of years left. There's millions of dollars. I got to do this. And then they start telling you how much you got to pay for what in return. It's like, all right, I'll pick that option. Cost me like $65,000. That's so much money. Okay, but I'll potentially get 15 or 20 million, whatever it is on the other side. And then as you're reading through what has to happen for you to get that, I had to get my legs sawed off in a football, on a football field, and then not be able to walk for at least 12
Starting point is 02:13:05 months straight, or kick a ball for 12 months straight, and then you'll be able to get it. Good deal, though. You're looking out for yourself. This is a smart thing. It's like, I feel like I've been bamboozled. I feel like I've been bamboozled, but this is the right play business-wise. That's why people hate the franchise tag, though. Because it's obviously not long-term security,
Starting point is 02:13:22 and it's always been a team weapon. Every single NFL PA negotiation, the players are trying to get rid of the franchise tag as opposed to keep it. It's not going anywhere. I hope Lamar does end up playing, whether it's on a tag or a long-term deal. If he doesn't play, they can franchise tag him again still,
Starting point is 02:13:37 or what happens there? I think they have one more tag at him, and I think it's 130% of the number it is this year, so the number just keeps going up. I mean, it behooves both parties. Now, if he doesn't play, if he sits out, can they franchise tag him again? If he sits out, they can franchise him again. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:54 I mean, if he sits out, he does it, but he walks away from $32 million. Who does that? Who walks away from $32 million? You can't do that. I mean, the system, it's not smart. Hold on.
Starting point is 02:14:10 Hold the phone. I mean, let's not bury anybody that walks away from $30 million too hard here. You know what I mean? Let's not bury that at all. But you're right. I would like to see him play football. I forgot about that. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:14:21 I guess you're right. Yeah, yeah. I was like that. But somebody who would walk away from 30 knows they've got something that's another rainbow. Whoa, that, yeah. I guess you're right. Yeah, yeah. I was like, yeah. But somebody who would walk away from 30 knows they've got something that there's another rainbow. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 02:14:33 Tone Diggs has something for you, Lombo. Lombo, we were talking to Ian Rappaport earlier, and we were talking about Buda Baker and how he wants to trade, but the Cardinals said that they don't want to trade him. As a GM, how do you deal with a situation like that where the player requests a trade, but you do not want to trade them? I think what you do is basically, why do you want to make a trade? If I were Monte Osidore, if I would call him in the office
Starting point is 02:14:52 and sit down and say, okay, what's the deal here? Why do you want to leave? Is it contract, or is it just culture? And let's figure out what this is. We just hired a new coach. We're going to change the culture in the building. We're going to hold people accountable. We're going to do this. So give us a chance to show you that. If it's contract, then explain to me why. Like I mentioned about the receiver market,
Starting point is 02:15:12 sometimes these contracts become so advanced that the player who signed them gets so far behind and he's a better player. If that's the issue, then let's have that conversation. I mean, transparency usually works. So let's have a one on one deal here. Let's talk about why you don't want to be here. Who made you upset? What caused it? Was it something in our training room? Was it something in the equipment room? Where is it that we have a problem? I'm new to this organization. I need to fix all the problems. And I think that's ultimately how you have to work it. All right. Well, hopefully it'll all get figured out before draft time. Anything else we're missing here, missing here long by that we should be talking about you know i i think the question that we're
Starting point is 02:15:49 going to address over the next 10 days is where's carter going to go we know he's not going less than 10 the eagles will take him if he makes it to 10 and i think the other thing is this tyree wilson kid from texas tech he's really a good player a really good player but he hurt his foot he had a broken bone in his foot. He's just gotten his foot cleared, and I think he's going to be a top 10 pick. He's going to see a bunch of teams this week. If they clear him on the physical, if he can play for camp, I think he's going to be a name that not a lot of people have talked about in this draft that has great, great upside. I mean, great upside, and I think Seattle and Detroit would fit perfectly for his skill set. I mean, great upside. And I think Seattle and Detroit would fit perfectly for
Starting point is 02:16:26 his skill set. Go ahead, AJ. Bomba, when's the first running back taken? That's a great question. I think there's a myth about this running back. If Bijan Robinson can play in the slot like Sarkeesian keeps saying, and when you watch him on tape, you believe he can, he's a weapon. Here's what I want to say to both all everybody. Why is it okay to pay? And I like Keenan Allen as a good player. Keenan Allen's a really good player. But it's okay to pay him all this money, but it's not okay to pay a running back. Keenan Allen averages about 10 yards a catch.
Starting point is 02:16:55 These running backs that impact the passing game are weapons, and they become problems. And what makes the 49ers so good is they can substitute without substituting. McCaffrey can be a slot even though he's a halfback. He can go outside and play. So to me, if B. John Robinson shows weapon-like skills in the passing game, he's worth it. Now, the guy that you can't pay is a running back who's just going to run the ball.
Starting point is 02:17:19 You know, okay, he's in the game. Everybody knows it's run or screen. That's the one that becomes harder. You just view him as a weapon as opposed to a running back. You're talking about Austin Eckler clearly in that conversation right there. There's no doubt. He's so underpaid, it's ridiculous, because what happens with him is in the red zone, he becomes a huge weapon. He's a factor in the red zone. And so you've got to defend him. To me, Eckler, he had 107 catches this year his percent target percentage I think was in the 70s like you're talking about a guy who you walk to the stadium on Sunday morning
Starting point is 02:17:51 you're saying how are we going to handle Eckler here how are we going to handle Eckler there all he does is score touchdowns Tone has something to follow up yeah does that make Jameer Gibbs potentially a first round pick then Alabama I think he you know every time I watch Gibbs I'm thinking that looks like Kamara that looks like Kamara. That looks like Kamara. That kid looks like Kamara. How did he end up at Georgia Tech? That kid looks like Kamara. And then obviously he went to Alabama. No knock on Georgia Tech here, but that kid
Starting point is 02:18:14 was really talented. I think so. Now, I think probably what happened at the bottom is there. It's always the second contract that bothered people. But if you're impacting the passing game and you're out there in space, that second contract isn't relevant. if you're impacting the passing game and you're out there in space that second contract isn't relevant i think you'll make those plays just to go back and read her what you're saying like having debo also be a running back out there oh
Starting point is 02:18:34 man why don't more teams think about moving wide receivers into a running back position look on every draft board that i've ever been a part of a receiver that played running back in high school got moved up a little bit okay why Because great receivers have always got run skills with the ball in their hands. They understand how to run the football when it's in their hands. So what you really want to do is take a receiver and make them a running back or a running back who was to become a receiver. I mean, that's what happens. The receivers that have that run skill, yards after the catch like Debo, they become so valuable because in this sport, it's hard to outrun people. It's hard to run go routes and win.
Starting point is 02:19:12 But when you can break tackles and run, wow, watch out. And that's why those guys get moved up the board. Shout out Randy Moss on anybody. Could get out there and get a couple others as well. Lombo, we know you can run a go-route on anybody if you had to. Yeah, right. We appreciate you. We don't know who called you twice during that,
Starting point is 02:19:29 but we hope you get back to them. You're the best, ladies and gentlemen, Michael and Bobby. Thank you, guys. Appreciate you. Lambeau! All right, so CJ's good then. Yes. He said he'd take them at four if the Colts were there.
Starting point is 02:19:39 Bingo. Yeah. So let's put everything to bed. And he said it wasn't really anything, like, off the field. Let's put it all to bed then, AJ. Perfect. Yeah, he said if Will Levis is there at four, the Colts will probably take him, right?
Starting point is 02:19:51 That's actually exactly what he didn't say. He said C.J. Stroud's at four. He'll take C.J. Stroud. But with that being said, if I'm Chris Ballard, I'm already in South Florida before the draft. Finding out. Now that's a little bit different than having to be in the actual position of Chris Ballard, saying what you would do if you were chris ballard but chris ballard also brought in carson
Starting point is 02:20:10 wentz matt ryan philip river jacoby brissett brian hoyer jacoby jacoby well he got drafted him bringing in a lot of guys from other teams being like hey we need you we need you we need you so i think he might be a little bit more gun-shy to go get another quarterback than maybe others. But Lamar Jackson as a quarterback would be fucking epic. But if we get C.J. Stroud, I'm cool with it. I'm very, very happy as well. Well, and have you guys heard of any situations
Starting point is 02:20:38 to what Lombardi was kind of worried about where a quarterback can't process the words of a playbook like not so much the plays like he gets that but actually reiterating the like play calls that they're trying to do if they're just calling in from the sideline he's just saying like the number five play yeah i mean there's that super popular clip of chris simms in the huddle in training camp with gruden yeah and gruden spitting out all the plays and you know he fucks it up like three times in a row and gruden eventually he's like, Jesus Christ, get him out of here. But if he wasn't so good at breaking down plays, he wouldn't have been in that team.
Starting point is 02:21:10 Exactly. Because of that. But also, why are these coaches having that long of a fucking play call? Good question. It's a great question. Like, I get it. You've studied more than anybody. Cool.
Starting point is 02:21:21 Can we eliminate 50% of those words? We have a play clock clock and we have guys that need to be less thinky more athlete takeover right you know where your coach comes mike leach that mike leach foundation like all that stuff is like simplified as few words as possible i've asked when you ask those coaches hey why do why do some of these coaches have like one play as a paragraph long like well they want you to think that they're much smarter than you, so they make them very long, which isn't totally the case, but you could definitely find a way to condense it.
Starting point is 02:21:50 I would imagine now, too, with how kids are learning, how you teach things to people, you definitely need to condense that. So Kenny Pickett used to have to run to the sideline with Whipple, the offense coordinator, and then run back and give the play, and now he was talking about CJ looking to the sideline, them signaling it in, him not having to say anything to anybody. Everybody on the field knowing what the play is at the same exact time from the signal.
Starting point is 02:22:13 I think that's pretty common in college football these days. College. Most everybody does it in college. Yeah, so there's probably a transition for a lot of people to have to do it. He said, well, Levis was calling full plays. I guess that is quite a – that's a lot of experience. That is not an easy thing to be able to do, especially in the moment in front of people,
Starting point is 02:22:29 being able to get it all right, and then also remember what the count is and where the ball is supposed to go. I think Will Levis' O.C. at Kentucky came from the Rams, if I am correct or not. But, like, tons of colleges now use those cards with pictures on them, and there's not a lot of play call in those, I believe. I'm fascinated by, like, how can you find out who has the brain for the NFL and who doesn't? You know, some positions don't have to have a great one.
Starting point is 02:22:55 There are some doofuses that have made it into the NFL. Okay, we won't. As long as you play hard, yeah. There are some doofuses that play very, very hard. I won't say that that isn't the case. But most of the guys that have great success in the NFL, their football IQ is insanely high. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:23:14 And the reason why it's insanely high is either because they've been in the game for so long or their ability to watch film, their ability to recall things that happen. Everybody talks about quarterback recalling of this thing about the defensive safeties that's in this formation we got this corners i mean we talked to pac-man pac-man jones a lot of people would be like oh he runs 4-2-8 he was six overall pick he played every single position how cerebral is he he's like well i watched every every single play i pretty much had a good lean on everything like the brain the football iq the football IQ is the differentiator
Starting point is 02:23:48 between almost everybody. And it's hard, I think, to figure out during this draft process. And I think that's a big X factor. What do you think it is? How do you think it is figureoutable, I'll say, for what somebody's football IQ is? How do you figure that out? There's no concrete way.
Starting point is 02:24:03 There's no science behind it. But the only thing I can think of is talk to these guys and like compare it to different people that you have come across say you're talking to quarterbacks like all right how does this compare to other guys in the past maybe that have had success compared to not have success but the biggest thing was like i gotta talk to their coaches i need to talk to everybody around that person because they're all gonna be on their best behavior you're at the combine they're doing me like you're meeting yeah you can get a good feel on maybe how competitive he is or whatever you don't really get to know the dude until he actually is on your team yeah but like
Starting point is 02:24:31 you for instance um luke fickle was his linebacker coach yep luke fickle told us that he'd ask aj hey what are you doing on this play aj go yeah i got this guy he's doing this or whatever and we go you got the one to get us to two i don't know the numbers but i know i got this guy you're on this guy so luke's like okay this guy is a rain man like when it comes to football which is probably why he went five overall to be should have been two hundred percent no i just didn't my brain didn't i told you but i'm not very good with math so luke had a dismembering system sometimes on how you would match and my brain didn't compute so i would just have to i know yep i just don't use the same terminology really yeah but your football iq you know so like i think that's
Starting point is 02:25:11 people undersell that whenever they think about nfl players everybody just thinks i'll put pads on run fast it's like all those fucking people out there have a football iq that is so high now there might be two or three guys on that field that have no idea what the fuck they're doing. They're just insanely athletic, and their work ethic is absurd. But if they last, if they have any kind of sustainability, like I've said a million times, there's not
Starting point is 02:25:35 many old, dumb guys in the NFL. Yes. Not the case. Could you imagine being a GM right now trying to draft somebody? No. Not at all. There's a lot of fails. There's a lot more fails that come out of first rounds than there is hits. And everybody that's drafting at the top of this has to hit a home run.
Starting point is 02:25:53 And if they don't, they'll be judged about it forever and their team will suck. That's a tough thing to have to do every year. Yeah, with the whole mental part of it too. Some part of it has to do with the system, right? Like Gabe Davis talked about at UCF, they would have a lot of it too. Some part of it has to do with the system, right? Like Gabe Davis talked about at UCF, they would have a lot of option routes. So when they were doing that entire thing against the Rams, we're on the sideline.
Starting point is 02:26:11 They were like, hey, if you see this on the field, change it and just go, right? And then that's exactly what happened. And that's the situation. That makes me happy about Hennon Hooker. Yeah. Like that's a little piece of information about Hennon Hooker where you're like,
Starting point is 02:26:33 guy beat Bama. Yep. yep okay not easy to do game day went to tennessee twice now i know hypo is the guy but this team was had a great leader obviously yeah then peyton manning did the mic'd up thing path to the draft omaha did with him peyton loves hendon has worked with him a lot obviously he's a tennessee guy but you you got Peyton Manning just as a call and as an asset, I think, if you're drafting Hennon Hooker. Not that you're getting that with anybody else, but then you meet Hennon's family. Hennon's family is fucking awesome. It's like
Starting point is 02:26:55 the guy, every single play had option routes that he was already doing in college. He can move towards ACL, though. Accurate. Only had two picks, right? Towards acl it's like 2023 what's modern science how come he's not higher and if he didn't yeah if he didn't tear it would be be talking about him with the top as a top pick like a possibility is it an age thing like just 24 25 scare people away i mean he could still play sure 10 years not a quarterback at quarterback that's
Starting point is 02:27:21 a good thing other positions that may anyone for a second contract, maybe not. I saw a 30-year-old lady from Minnesota almost win the fucking Boston Marathon this morning. 30. Emma Bates. 30. You say she's from Boston? Minnesota. Boston Marathon.
Starting point is 02:27:35 She was leading us whenever the men's marathon. The biggest marathon. Isn't that the biggest deal to win the Boston Marathon? Streaming it live on ESPN. I don't know how many. Nice. Happy Patriots Day. Happy Patriots Day. Happy Patriots Day.
Starting point is 02:27:46 Hell yeah. 30-year-old lady out of Minnesota almost won that thing. She was in the lead for a long time. Sprinting. Sprinting for over 26 miles basically. Some lady ate shit. Yeah, big time. Like just like.
Starting point is 02:27:57 Literally? Yeah, they were in a group. So in bicycle, you know, they all line up ass to face. Bam, bam, bam. Face to ass. Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. In running, it seems like they're line up ass to face. Boom, boom, boom, face to ass. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. In running, it seems like they're getting like a little group. Coddles.
Starting point is 02:28:09 Like a pod in the run or whatever. This is just from what we watched this morning. You're drafting off each other, yeah. Yeah, I think they're trying to. Lady in the back, I think she wanted to go for it. And then somebody in front of those, so kicked somebody's heel. Boom.
Starting point is 02:28:22 Face. Then got back up, caught back up to the group. But I just thought about how much energy that had to take from going down and Then got back up, caught back up to the group, but I just thought about how much energy that had to take from going down and then getting back up. Did they get up and go clubbing from behind when they caught up? There was no fight. The scooter driver with the camera person though did have to do a quick stop.
Starting point is 02:28:36 Thought there was a chance of running over. Could you imagine? No. It's had to happen. That's definitely had to happen unfortunately. Of course, it was a great break downer. Emma ended up where? I. Of course. It was a great breakdown. Emma ended up where? I don't know. I was going to say, so we know for sure that Batesy did not win.
Starting point is 02:28:51 She was losing steam in the last leg. Beginning of the show, I was peeking back to see a little bit. I saw that she did not win, but she was in the top, what, five? Top five. She came in third, I believe, in the Chicago one, maybe. Yeah, the Chicago marathon. Second or third. We got a dog emma
Starting point is 02:29:05 bates is a dog 30 years she took fifth here at the boston one she's she was she was in the group in the group though she was in the crew there and if you guys ever run one run a marathon or even a half marathon yeah yeah of course not i'm saying anybody in the room anybody there yeah yeah of course not what do you know phil see if i, Phil. He ran one and three quarters of one. Which is a lot. Not easy. Well, I guess it would be what? So hard.
Starting point is 02:29:32 Seven eighths. Yeah, it's almost there. He ran one. Is that when he dumped himself and went to the hospital? Yeah. He dumped himself? Damn. I think he did lose bowel control.
Starting point is 02:29:42 Probably. That makes sense. His muscles. Was it rhabdo? Yeah, it was rhabdo yeah yeah oh so did he poop himself you know more about rhabdo than us i don't know if dumping down your leg is part of that i really don't marathons though you see a lot of people dumping down your leg especially in that speed walking a lot of pooping of the pants part of it a lot of the lululemon i've been
Starting point is 02:29:59 there you know you're gonna run it you've been preparing for it you got to figure out a way to not dump yourself well they take what is it like like Imodium or whatever to make sure, like, hey, I cannot have to take a shit for the next 10 hours. But they carb up the night before, so don't you – Big time. You would have to get that all out, right? Yeah, have to. Morning of?
Starting point is 02:30:14 Hopefully. Maybe do like a colonoscopy prep type thing. Is that what took Phil out? He had to dump. Maybe. And his body just shut down. He looked so good. Did you see him this weekend, how good he looked?
Starting point is 02:30:25 I saw the pictures. He looked awesome. Dude, he's properly jocked He looked so good. Did you see him this weekend, how good he looked? I saw the pictures. He looked awesome. Dude, he's properly jocked right now, too. So he's doing another triathlon deal? Yeah, this is the first triathlon I think that he's doing. Yeah. But he is in hilarious shape right now. He's in.
Starting point is 02:30:38 I was asking about it. He said he's not started swimming yet, but the other two he's pretty confident in. Wow. Should start to swim. Yeah, that's probably the only thing he's not good at, I think. Can't get raved on in the water. That would stink. Yeah, and then you're dead. And they're all swimming. Can't cramp up and sink.
Starting point is 02:30:52 They're all swimming over top of you, too, like those dolphins whenever you get around them when they're all horned up. People are just swimming right over top of you in those triathlons. They don't care. They'll go dick right on your back. And then right on your neck, and then the back of your head. And then you... Right over head And then all of a sudden they're in front of you And then their friend needs to catch up
Starting point is 02:31:09 And they're coming sack over shoulder again That's right He needs to find out a way to simulate chop Maybe he needs us in there Just jumping up and down and getting some waves going And then climbing over top of him Because it is pool basketball too I think there's heads being pushed under the water
Starting point is 02:31:24 Oh yeah, it's different Each corner of the pool with inner tubes, and you jump up and down. You create a wave pool pretty quick. And then we can all run in a circle, too. So it's like a little whirlwind. Yeah. We'll help you, Phil, if you want. Got to grow back that flame.
Starting point is 02:31:36 Open water swim is different. Think how different an open water swim is. You've been swimming laps in a pool the whole time, and then all of a sudden you're out in some weird man-made lake swimming three and a half miles or whatever tim mcphee used to strap a harness on and then go into a above ground pool and just try to swim it down oh that's smart then he would go do those triathlons but he grew up swimming like he's been a swimmer his whole life phil isn't phil i don't think phil is a big pool guy i pull basketball maybe had a pool in his backyard
Starting point is 02:32:02 does he know how to swim yeah i, I think he can float and do all that. I'm not sure he's ever done one of these, though. I think it's in... At this moment. Is it in Boston? He said it was in Boston. I think it's in the bay that he's in. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Phil, you better get in the water right now, brother. Why? Are you talking about all the tea that's been left behind? Yep, absolutely.
Starting point is 02:32:19 Still sitting at the bottom of the bay. Phil, go down there and pick up some of that tea like it's one of those rings that they throw to the bottom of the bay harbor. Phil, go down there and pick up some of that tea like it's one of those rings that they throw to the bottom of a pool. Yeah, you better be careful. It's a dangerous bay. Sitting on the dock of the bay. Why are you saying it's dangerous?
Starting point is 02:32:37 Because you just never know. I heard the mosh is very dangerous up there. The mosh is dangerous. You dump your bodies in a mosh. Yeah. Different section. Phil, watch out for the dead bodies, too. Not only you got to worry about the other hundred-some that are swimming over toppy and
Starting point is 02:32:48 putting their junk on your back. Right. You got to worry about the dead bodies coming up from the bottom, too, up there in Boston. But if you dump a body in the mash, dump a body in the mash, okay? In the bay. Not where some fucking Tom, Dick, and Jane gets a blowjob every Tuesday, okay? That's right, Phil. That's what you're swimming in.
Starting point is 02:33:04 That's right. Yeah. Let's go to the front Dive down A Jane to get a hood? I don't think it was perfect What are you saying? No, Tom, Dick, and Jane
Starting point is 02:33:13 I thought he was making reference to Dick and Jane That's a great movie, too Is Jane the name? Or every Tom, Dick, and Harry Yeah, Tom, Dick, and Harry It's not A guy who works at John Hancock goes every Thursday and get a blowjob. Thank you. That's what it is.
Starting point is 02:33:30 Close, though. Tom, Dick, and Harry. Yeah, you're right. And Jane. You're right. It's not perfect, okay? Sue me. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:33:36 Don't actually. Don't actually. I forgot my computer. Quite a development in that whole world. Yeah. Quite a development in that whole world. We're going to change everything. Let's go to the phones.
Starting point is 02:33:45 Let's go to Nick in Texas on the 5RNG phone line. Nick, what's going on, pal? Nothing much. How are you guys doing? Hold on one second, Nick. We apologize. There are no tea containers in the Boston Bay from what I'm reading here. It seems that two empty chests survived,
Starting point is 02:34:01 so the containers are there. Go down there and get it, Phil. You want to do a triathlon in Boston and you've got to swim in the bay? At least pay a little homage to 1776. It'd be worth a lot of money if you pulled one of those things up. CFO, here we go. Go do it.
Starting point is 02:34:16 Now, that would be a lot more swimming because you'd have to go down to the bottom and search around. Probably wouldn't be able to see too good. Yeah, current, probably pretty extreme down there. Wear goggles. Wear goggles for sure. He's going to wear a scuba suit, I wonder, have to.
Starting point is 02:34:30 Yeah. Probably should. Then he can poop and pee in there. Right. When is it? Yep, definitely poop in there so it stays there. That is nice about the triathlon. You can poop and pee in the back.
Starting point is 02:34:38 The days of the Boston Habba being used as polluter's paradise are long over. Polluter's paradise? Holy shit. Thanks to the last 50 years of the Clean Water Act, Boston HABA is now one of the cleanest HABAs in the United States, said U.S. Senator Edward Markey, who has a home on the harbor.
Starting point is 02:34:52 Biz's brother. What's that? Biz Markey. Spelled different. You! You got what I need! But you say he's just a friend You say he's just a friend Oh, baby, you
Starting point is 02:35:12 Rest in peace, Bismarck. Rest in peace, yep. Joining us now is Nick in Texas on the 500. What's going on, Nick? Nothing much, Pat. How are you guys doing? Hey, not too shabby. First time, you felt a little rushed.
Starting point is 02:35:24 Second time, you did it great. Nick, we're doing fantastic. Keep it moving, brother man. I just want to shout out to Nick Miraldo. Congratulations. Hell yeah. From Texas, Nick. Thank you for that. I just want to talk about Jalen Carter.
Starting point is 02:35:39 I've always thought that the Texans needed to build a team before they actually drafted a quarterback. And I think Jalen Carter would be the perfect dog for the defense. What part of Texas are you from, Nick? Frankston. Oh, where's that at? Good part. At East Texas.
Starting point is 02:35:55 Oh, is that where the Big Green was filmed? No, sir. That's the opposite. All right, Nick. That was a good movie. It is a good movie. Great movie. It's a good movie.
Starting point is 02:36:04 Yeah. Jalen Carter, too. I think the Big Green. What?. All right, Nick. That's a good movie. It is a good movie. Great movie. It's a good movie. Jalen Carter, too. I think the big reason. What? Excuse me? Come on. Yeah. For real. You win the Ohio championship.
Starting point is 02:36:13 Is it a soccer movie? I have not heard of it. Oh, there it is. Okay. There it is. You know what sport? Sorry, we understand you're the champion of Ohio. We get it.
Starting point is 02:36:21 Okay. All right. Did you give a speech? I don't know about this movie. Did you give a speech and say, coming from Centerville, Ohio? Why does this pop up now? What was your speech? What did you say?
Starting point is 02:36:31 You're Ohio's finest. Did you prepare? I don't know. Yeah, a little bit. It was all coaches. It was like 800 high school coaches in for their whole coaches clinic weekend. 800? That's a big crowd.
Starting point is 02:36:43 Did you shell up at all? Did you get a spray tan before then? T-shirt. No. But I'm going to start getting spray tans. I really should. I can't believe Zito made this very quickly. And we appreciate the help.
Starting point is 02:36:54 It's pretty hot in there. Should have been red for sure. You know. Yeah, I was thinking about it. Exactly blue. I was matching his eyes. No, yeah, I understand. Yeah, he does look amazing.
Starting point is 02:37:04 Yeah, it is as blue as the eyes. Ohio ain't a fucking blue state, dude. Well, I'm talking about from Michigan. I don't know what you're talking about. Jeez Louise. Come on. That's what I thought you were talking about. Anyways, AJ, what did you say?
Starting point is 02:37:14 Did you say, hey, we got to keep the Ohio morals in these young men? Is that what you're saying in there, or what did you say? No, I didn't. Nothing specific like that. I just pumped him up and let him know how much of an impact high school coaches have on their players and what you can do and how I think about stuff my high school coaches taught me every single day. Like what? What's one thing that you remember from your high school coaches that you take with you day to day?
Starting point is 02:37:36 Don't ever question anything. Just put your head down and do it. Well, that's not how you operate at all. No, I know. I know. That's how I operate in high school, though. I never once thought of asking a question in high school. I never would. You're talking about for the football team at football. I know. I know. That's not that's how I operate in high school though. I never once thought of asking a question in high school. I never would. You're talking about for the football team at football.
Starting point is 02:37:48 Yeah, I mean like it's not realistic. You want your guys to want to know the why and all this stuff. But yeah, there is sometimes it's good to just say, this sucks. I don't care. I'm doing it. Yeah, there's, I won't say the person's name obviously because I'm sure he wouldn't want to be associated with this particular train of thought.
Starting point is 02:38:04 But he was a scout and he certainly told me hey on defense we want guys you're smart not too smart i don't want him asking a lot of questions like what was that excuse me what's your yeah like some plays like some guys jobs are going to be not fun like hey don't need them being like well wouldn't it be more efficient to do this is like certainly but we don't need yeah don't need you to do that. I'm like, damn, all right. He's like, yeah, that's football. I need a buy-in.
Starting point is 02:38:29 Just need blinders on. Just need you to kind of go in there and do that. I'm like, all right, okay. It's going to be tougher to find, I think, as society continues to evolve. But I understand what you're saying. Just fucking blinders on. Let's go to work. That isn't what you've taken into your adult life at all,
Starting point is 02:38:44 and you told them that there's still stuff to this day that you take from your high school coach what is something that you've taken from a high school coach that you still utilize to this day aj i don't know little things that they told me that i remember i don't know what i said in the moment i didn't like have it i didn't read it i didn't pull out a sheet hold on here we go guys and uncrinkle my paper i didn't do that A couple good speeches at the wedding, speaking of. How many were there? Three. Four. Five. The parents? No,
Starting point is 02:39:12 four. Frankie Moraldo spoke. Right. Gave a toast. That was awesome. Yeah, nice. Friend, a very cool person gave speech, rehearsal, dinner Katie gave a speech
Starting point is 02:39:28 Dan Hostos Dan Hostos, rehearsal, dinner good speech, paper though, had paper had points, went through it, good speech brought some things up that made us all go whoa, just learned a lot about Carly just, don't know
Starting point is 02:39:43 but, great speech, I thought it was a great speech we all did then Chelsea spoke Whoa. Just learned a lot about Carly. Oh. Just don't know. Oh. Great speech. I thought it was a great speech. We all did. Yes. Then Chelsea spoke. Then I spoke, right? That was four. So it was four speeches all together.
Starting point is 02:39:53 Nick's too. Yeah, Nick did as well. Thank you. Just a quick, yeah. Five speeches. Thank you, yeah. No, it was great. It was a good speech.
Starting point is 02:40:00 Not easy to speak and that type of stuff. Mm-mm. But full paper night before, Frank Moraldo went straight from the heart. That's right. Crushed it. Chelsea had notes on her phone. Okay.
Starting point is 02:40:10 She crushed it, though. Had a look at them once, I think. Good speeches. It was pretty good speeches. I just started rolling, yeah. I started working the room a little bit, and then I lost service. Yeah, it was awesome. Move around.
Starting point is 02:40:19 Sorry, I lost service on the microphone, AJ, so I had to get a little bit closer to center. Come back up. That's key. You've got to work the space. You need to really take the mic and get down down the dance floor and walk the dance floor. It's too far away. It's too far away. I had a spotlight on us, AJ.
Starting point is 02:40:31 I've never seen anything like this. It was awesome. The venue looked sweet. It was. The venue was absurd. Camera person puts up a... Oh, my God. Fucking spotlight, like a floodlight, like on the, on the Nick and Carly better lighting than the stage,
Starting point is 02:40:48 better lighting than anything. I've better been a part of straight on there. I'm like, Holy fuck. Something has to be happening. And then it was kiss. And then Nick gave a speech. Light goes off.
Starting point is 02:40:58 Everybody disappears. And we have a little food. All of a sudden, bang floodlights back on. Okay. Something's about to happen. What is it? Speeches.
Starting point is 02:41:07 Got it. That was incredible work by that person. That light might have been the thing that cost the energy for the AC. Power in that light might have powered. Well, it may have been worth it because that speech you gave was absolutely incredible, man. You rocked it. You did too, bud. Not easy for you to speak in front of all your people there,
Starting point is 02:41:29 especially with Carly's family and friends there. there's a lot of fucking people at this thing a lot of italian people so many hey did they accept you yes i reference the italians a few times a couple pops late ah this guy's got jokes zito was eating gabagool out of some guy's pocket at one point. Yeah, in a bag, plastic bag. He came up to me and gave me some gabagool. It was so good. It was so warm, though. Nick Moraldo's dead. Yeah, he was in nature's microwave, as Mark Caboli would call it.
Starting point is 02:41:55 This guy's pocket. Still in his pocket? Dude brought a bag. Double M brings gabagool with him? It was not Mark Madden. I don't think he's Italian, but he was there. Frank Moraldo had one of the most italian looking motherfuckers i mean we're talking one of these squarest strongest heads into great
Starting point is 02:42:12 tan frank goes hey guys got some meat or whatever i'm like what what's going on this guy pulls out a fucking sandwich bag out of his pocket and there's some fucking gobble goal and he just hands it to me i'm like you know you know, I got this Italian horn. It was the middle of the wedding. I'm like, this is amazing. That was good stuff. We couldn't get it to everybody. That was real. I don't know what I was eating. I don't know what that animal was
Starting point is 02:42:36 that I had there. That was funny though. You open the bag and just try one and I go, I didn't even ask what it was. I just ate it. Like jerky? No. It was gabagool. Like jerky? No. Oh, it was Gabagol. Gabagol. Italian jerky. Capicola, pal.
Starting point is 02:42:50 Hey, Pittsburgh has become awesome. It was so nice. The Strip District area has become very, very, very nice, AJ. Very nice. What was it before? I don't want to say shithole, but kind of. Old warehouses, basically. And then it was like mom and pop stores that sold tomatoes.
Starting point is 02:43:08 Yeah, and t-shirts with $5 Steelers t-shirts and stuff. But now they've built it up with a bunch of restaurants and bars and stuff like that. Yeah, it's become very nice. The wife and I walked around. It was sweet. It was awesome. A lot of the older neighborhoods have been rejuvenated. Felt like 1990.
Starting point is 02:43:26 Really? Yeah. With less cigs, but still. I saw some cigs. I saw some cigs. I saw some cigs as well. Oh, yeah. Pittsburgh's a cig time.
Starting point is 02:43:34 I expected more. Saw some masks, too. Yeah, that was interesting. Actually, saw a lot of those. That's because of stupid Ohio. What? Can't keep their fucking trains on the tracks. Okay.
Starting point is 02:43:43 Yeah, that's what the masks were for. You're right. Thanks a lot, Ohio. What? Can't keep their fucking trains on the tracks. Okay. Yeah. That's what the masks were for. You're right. Thanks a lot, Ohio. There's also that massive semi pileup that got Mitt stuck in traffic for two and a half hours right near Columbus. There was a time yesterday where Mitt was on a highway outside of his car. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:43:59 Just yesterday. Yeah, think about it. That's never good. Fuck's going on. It's driving two hours. Fuck. Fuck. Go on, we'll get back. See you, bro. What did Nick say? I was just through there 40 minutes ago.
Starting point is 02:44:10 There was no traffic. Not anymore, thanks. Mitch. Thanks a lot. And then Bruce drove around it. Bruce drove over top of him. Yeah. Bruce got the heads up that there was a thing,
Starting point is 02:44:19 so Bruce drove over top of him, waved at him, and then just continued moving as Mitch sitting on a highway having a picnic. Oh, no, you're welcome, but bro. Let's go to Donnie in Washington on the 5RNG phone line. What's going on, Donnie? Hey, guys. A big Seahawks fan here. Do you guys think
Starting point is 02:44:40 we should draft a quarterback this year, or should we let Gino and Drew Locke build up and just build on our defensive line what do you think Donnie well I think we have a realistic chance of being a playoff team so I don't think you just ruin the culture in the offseason by drafting the QB okay now Gino and Aaron might handle the situation differently same with the other quarterbacks on whether or not you draft a guy and kind of groom him to be your guy
Starting point is 02:45:08 and take the whole spot. Now, Aaron was nothing but kind to Jordan Love, is what we've been told. But they just made it to an NFC championship game, and then boom! They draft a quarterback in the first round. Seattle's a bit different. They have not been to the championship game. They don't have a team that could necessarily win a Super Bowl right now, like everybody
Starting point is 02:45:24 thought with Green Bay. So maybe you do just make your team a little bit better or look for the future. Who knows who's going to be available at their pick, but allegedly he connected with Anthony Richardson. Yes. Very, very close. Allegedly. This came out from Anthony Richard doing interviews. He was in Pete Carroll,
Starting point is 02:45:40 you mean? Yes. Mutual connection. And what pick are they again? five yeah do they have a second one because that's the broncos pick correct correct they could they had to be open with gino though when they signed it's ultimately you know has basically a one-year deal he has to know like i don't think it would ruin the culture there if they fell in love with somebody in five to take his numbers are easy to read to a 20 i think, I think, and 5, 20 and 5. Could get to 3.
Starting point is 02:46:07 Yeah. It's perfect for Richardson just because if he does need a year to develop, like AJ just said, it's only a one-year deal really for Geno. Let's go to the phones. Let's go to the 500. What we're saying is we don't fucking know. Nope. No idea.
Starting point is 02:46:19 We apologize. They probably don't either. They don't either until it comes all of a sudden they're on the clock and they're like, all right, here we go. Yeah, Jalen Carter. Yeah, I'm a big take the best player available guy. But then also, like, if you have a glaring omission on your team, it's like have to get the team better.
Starting point is 02:46:35 I get to think about the future, and this will be our future. And shout out to the people that can do that. They're playing chess. I've always been a checkers player. Who's the fucking best player? Are we stacked at that position? No. Sweet. Here we go. Our team just got better. I've always been a checkers player. Who's the fucking best player? Are we stacked at that position? No. Sweet.
Starting point is 02:46:46 Here we go. Our team just got better. I'll see it pick 20, but people operate differently. Well, and then they're one of the teams that got to Super Bowl through the draft. They hit on all their picks. And then last year, they had both tackles, the running back, and both corners from last year's draft become starters and become good starters. So I feel like they're hot in the draft, so they're going to want to do the best player available we're at.
Starting point is 02:47:08 This is kind of like the Jets, who are very good at the draft. That's why you can see the potential conversation with the Packers being, nah, can't do that, because what the Jets have been able to do with some of these picks over the last two years. Now, they also drafted Zach Wilson, which is not paying that. The other guy's in that draft, True. Paying that, you know? Yeah. The other guys in that draft, though. Paying that.
Starting point is 02:47:27 Yeah. He was doing the Spider-Man gif. Yep. There's been some pain. Remember that, AJ? Yeah. He's throwing up gang signs. What's going on?
Starting point is 02:47:39 What are you guys doing? That was, that was, it almost looked staged. Like hell. Really did. what would you have done huh what would you have done yeah big smile thumbs up double thumbs up just double thumbs up always is good that's a great fill i used to do the film i used to be a big thumbs up guy now i'm point guy like hey this person is best. Got caught in a lot of photos, though, of people on both sides of me this past weekend. So I had to do a double.
Starting point is 02:48:09 Who do I like better? Also, which one's in a better position? Yep. You know? It's good to see everybody, AJ. Those weddings are like big-time reunions. How many people? 250.
Starting point is 02:48:20 Nice, Dan. It was good size. It was big. A lot of people. Looks like a good party, right? That's the best. Like, when you have a reception where everyone kind of knows each other. If they don't, they feel like they do, and you can It was good size. It was big. A lot of people. It looked like a good party, right? That's the best, like when you have a reception where everyone kind of knows each other. If they don't, they feel like they do, and you can have a good time. Everybody was boozed up.
Starting point is 02:48:30 Everybody was there to have a good time. Yep. One person walked right up to the group I was talking to and said, Anybody got any Quaaludes? It's 2023. I don't know how often he has asked that question to groups. So he asked a question. Nobody responded.
Starting point is 02:48:46 Conversation continued. When breaking conversation arose, I said, excuse me, how often do you ask that question? And how often do you get a, yeah, we do have Quaaludes in the modern era. You know what I mean? In the modern era. He said, I just wanted to see, I didn't know. I was just testing the water.
Starting point is 02:49:02 And then he walked away. It was awesome. So to say everybody had the same mindset I think would be an understatement. People are having a blast out there. Pac-Man Jones was doing his thing. Pac-Man Jones was doing his thing out there, AJ. I believe it.
Starting point is 02:49:16 Yeah. I mean, I saw him at one point taking a photo with a group of 20 people that I didn't know a single one of them. No idea. And Pac-Man was in the middle of it. They all had cigars. He was doing his thing. They had a baby Pac. Mark Madden was taking selfies with everybody. It was a time. It was a real time out there.
Starting point is 02:49:30 There was some shit popping off. Congrats, boys. Hell of a wedding. Got to see Ruppert in person. He's massive. Ruppert is so big. Did you know this? I do not.
Starting point is 02:49:40 How big is he? 6'4", 6'5". Fucking lumbering, though. Not just like a... I have no idea. Thick 6'5". Not a wiry. Yeah thick not a wiry yeah not a wiry six five fucking big in ohio six five yeah he's got neck too with that fucking big dome oh yeah i just can't believe you boozing you boot why does he keep asking me if i'm boozing he said because i was pretty drunk at the time so anytime i'd see somebody from afar
Starting point is 02:50:01 and it wasn't close enough to have a conversation i just go we boozing or and then? And then he'd come, why do you keep asking me if I'm boozing? Yes, I'm boozing. I've been drinking all day. I'm like, it's not like shot, bro. I'm just checking in. I did ask him like three times, though, and he's like, what the fuck? Why do you keep asking? I've been drunk.
Starting point is 02:50:16 Yes. Just making sure. All right, bro. Trying to set the record straight. I'm just letting you know, I am pretty fucked up right now. I was wandering around at one point pretty drunk, and I was like, all right, I'm going to have to find my groove a little bit. I know. After a little bit, I felt like every time I saw you,
Starting point is 02:50:28 you were like by yourself, and it was like the sea was pouring around. You were just marching around, just trying to find something. Trying to find space, yeah. I did a lot of head down, I need to get somewhere. Nobody stopped me for a conversation right now. Where are you headed? I'm going to the bathroom. I'm going to the cookie table.
Starting point is 02:50:44 All right, I'll see you over there. I'm going to the bathroom. I'm going to the cookie table. Alright, I'll see you over there. I'm going to the bathroom instead. Which was another 200 yard away. So I was doing a lot of missions on myself. Trying to find a little bit of sobriety in there. I think Sunday morning was I talked to everybody, but in the same way, I talked to nobody.
Starting point is 02:51:00 I felt like that as well. Good breakdown. That's what I was trying to do as well. It was good to catch up with everybody. There was a couple conversations I got out of quickly that I felt like, hey, good on you. I did one of those. Had to do it. There was a couple other ones that were good convos that I liked. And then I realized a few times I was way too drunk to be talking to a couple of the people that I was talking to. So had to get out of there.
Starting point is 02:51:17 Had to avoid it. But great weekend. Fucking great weekend. Hell yeah. Spent a month in Pittsburgh one weekend. And that was kind of what happened. Last phone call here. Travis in Pennsylvania on the 5RNG phone line.
Starting point is 02:51:27 1-833-432-3663. Last call of the day here. What do you want to talk about, pal? How we doing, boys? Keep moving. Okay, you got it. Hey, I just want to talk about the D.C. Defenders. I feel like they're not being talked about enough.
Starting point is 02:51:41 They're a powerhouse in the XFL right now. They're not the fucking Battlehawks, pal. Nope. Hey, they're not. They beat them yesterday. They're defenders. Beat the Battlehawks? Yeah, in OT, I believe.
Starting point is 02:51:51 Was that the Nooch? Is the Nooch the defenders? I think the Nooch is on the... Sea Dragons. Sea Dragons. Who's on your team? Jordan Ta'amu. Oh.
Starting point is 02:52:00 Jordan Ta'amu. That was a revenge game against St. Louis. Bingo. Oh, homecoming. Panthers have to regret letting rid of Ta'am St. Louis. Bingo. A homecoming. Panthers have to regret letting rid of Ka'amu. Yeah, of course. Yeah, they're bummed. So how are the D.C. defenders?
Starting point is 02:52:11 I remember the first go-around. You guys were known for the beer snake in the stands. It was almost like the stadium and the fans better than the football team. Now the team is matching the fans? It was a sellout, yes, sir. Let's go. I saw Dwayne say that. The team doesn't
Starting point is 02:52:25 stink? Undefeated. No. No stinking anymore. Here's Nick. Keep going. Alright, I love that. I think Travis, XFL is happening. So is the USFL. And there's another spring football league where the founder of it called me every day for four weeks
Starting point is 02:52:41 and left me a voicemail. And I had to block his number because my voicemail went up to 100% without me ever answering. And he just kept it going. Another spring league is coming, from what I've been told. Spring football is large and in charge right now. Was that Sanchez's voice I heard on
Starting point is 02:52:57 the USFL game with the first down marker? The first down thing was cool. Are you talking about the chip? Yeah. Yeah, they did a tennis-like elementary version where they took clip art and utilized a sensor to say where the football was. Okay. I thought it was clearly short of the first down marker.
Starting point is 02:53:18 They called it a first down. Then they ran this video clip indicating that they utilized the chip in the ball to confirm it, and it was like a third utilized the chip in the ball to confirm it. And it was like a third of the football was across the first down marker. So that was legit. Let's move on. Nobody's asking any questions. My issue with that is they could just have four of those videos uploaded.
Starting point is 02:53:38 True. And just back up everything that their refs say. Which is kind of what McEnroe said about the tennis thing. That kind of ruined it for me. Yeah. McEnroe fucking ruined it. He knew. Yeah, but he's a pillar of sunshine, so. He ruined it.
Starting point is 02:53:53 Yeah, that's his MO. Because we said, well, if we got a chip and a ball, we can just have that thing tell us everything. We'll run the replay just like tennis, and it'll be perfect. What are your thoughts on tennis' replay system? He goes, that's not real. That's what he said. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:54:04 Pretty much, right? Didn't he, AJ? Yeah, so he doesn't trust the technology is that right he thinks it's just a video that people are playing just screw the other person in or out just deciding i mean maybe but there's got to be someone overseeing this right maybe it's hard once bold statement bro once i heard it from him like of course everything's fucking ruined it adds good drama to tennis though because they go to it and then all of a sudden and the ball like goes like on the actual path that it could have went who knows if it's actually yeah and then they show it you know so as soon as mackinac said that i literally was like you
Starting point is 02:54:40 ruined you just ruined it for me because that's all i'm gonna think what about golf when they get behind him and they show the path of their ball? Yeah, and it's late sometimes. That's another thing. That's Conoco-Minalta. It's pretty accurate. Nick tried it with the Tahoe. I don't know how. Well, that's different.
Starting point is 02:54:58 Yeah, there's an app on your phone that'll do it, right? Yeah. Sarah Ellison has tweeted back to us about the report about Lamar Jackson. Pat McAfee's show rap rap sheet neither lamar nor the report of 200 million total guaranteed is wrong pat mcphie show it's just talking past each other the problem is using the vague term guaranteed it shouldn't be vague but it is an nfl contract language there's all types of guaranteed money in contracts that's zero stipulate stipulations attached for months people have been comparing lamar's fully guaranteed money to other qb's total guarantees it's been completely unfair to the
Starting point is 02:55:29 ravens if you want to compare what's truly guaranteed at signing between qb deals it's this watson 230 lamar 133 russell 124 jalen 110 kyler 103 okay so i respect that and what you're saying the number 200 was the thing that yes that was the the big one that sg did they say practical guarantees like what's the practical guarantee means it should be there because it's probably like due after the first year or something it's virtually yeah i mean if injury happens though there's a chance but it's like a franchise tag slash an injury one is a different number than the virtually guaranteed it's a chance but it's like a franchise tag slash an injury one is a different number then the virtually guaranteed's a different one we don't want to say we're a part of it because that would be us being very self-absorbed sure i would like to say that this particular
Starting point is 02:56:16 program has changed how contracts are reported documented proven rap literally just said it last hour but since we've started talking about all these contracts how they're reported mostly because friends of mine have been fucked by what allegedly they were getting then what fans thought they were getting what their family thought they were getting what the community thought they were getting versus what they actually got because of how contracts were reported back in the day since we've started covering it once again not saying it's just us there's obviously others that have done it but we have been credited by some of the people that report contracts for being the people that have led them reported differently they've added different verbiage into things virtually
Starting point is 02:56:53 guaranteed practically guaranteed almost guaranteed could be guaranteed cure covid definitely guaranteed it's like a very it's all uh you know what i mean? It is all kind of a fuckery game. But I don't think I knew that $200 million was guaranteed to Lamar. That's 100% on me, I think. Well, don't we need to hear from Lamar if this was truly the case? We put out the invite. Exactly. We told him you got mail. And his injury guarantee, I thought, was like $179 or $189 million.
Starting point is 02:57:24 A lot of money. Yeah. A lot of money. $179 or $189 million. A lot of money. Yeah. A lot of money. If the Ravens offered him $200, that is a much different story. Because it feels like if everything were being told, if everything were being told, if they did go and just say, hey, here's Jalen's contract, he would say no to that. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:57:40 If what we're understanding as of today. Correct. Because $200 was from September of last season. Allegedly. Yes. But 133 was what was reported. Reported. Yep.
Starting point is 02:57:54 If it's three years, 140, what do you think, AJ? I love that for Lamar. Get me back out in the market when the salary cap goes up even more. Us too. If he said no to that, I think I am way more in on the Ravens than I am on the market. Whoa, shit. Absolutely. $140 million and then you're back in a free agent at $28?
Starting point is 02:58:13 Come on. Come on. Come to the Colts. That's why he needs to say something. Yes. Say something. Just say something. I love Lamar.
Starting point is 02:58:21 Just tweet something. Say it. Say something. Say something. Yeah. You've seen a lot of stuff. Say something. Say something. Send us a picture of what they offer. Yeah. Yeah. Just tweet something. Say it. See something, say something. Yeah. You've seen a lot of stuff. Say something. Say something.
Starting point is 02:58:26 Send us a picture of what they offer. Yeah. Yeah, just tweet it. Yeah, boom. You're not sent us. Just tweet it. Yeah. Or post that video on Lamar Jackson Entertainment, I-775.
Starting point is 02:58:37 Yeah. We just want you to have money, Lamar. Good luck, Lamar. Good luck, Lamar. We did buy the entire gym teg right what is doing our part don't be fucking stupid come on his entire gym yeah it's in a little briefcase did you see this thing that's his entire gym yeah i didn't know you bought it yeah think about getting a fucking workout in right here might as well well. While the show's happening, AJ. When you go on one of those super long monologues about all the stuff you do,
Starting point is 02:59:08 I'm just going to start getting it all in. I'm just going to. I need to get one, too, then. Oh, it's only pre-order. We pre-order. You can only pre-order. Oh, okay. We pre-order, though.
Starting point is 02:59:17 I think it's MTO, though. Just like sheets with those hot dogs you'd order. Does he need to do his contract to get the investment money to then build it all? That would be interesting if he's doing an investment round of his new NFL contract. We've got to wait on the seeding. It's coming around here. Nonetheless, we are Lamar Jackson fans, as is everybody else. We just want to see him get paid.
Starting point is 02:59:37 If $200 million was guaranteed, Jesus Christ, we've been going to bat for the wrong things. Yeah. And the Ravens probably been watching us going, this fucking asshole. They don't even know. He's not even jocked wearing that fucking tank top. This guy doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. Now, we do know the beginning of that particular scene was done because men stand over mirrors. Did you do that before the wedding?
Starting point is 02:59:58 Just get a little clear out? No, every Sunday. I don't want to change my tradition. Last night, though. Every Sunday night you do it? What time just so we can know Who helps you? Myself
Starting point is 03:00:08 Somebody tweeted me yesterday And said we know that at this exact moment Tone Diggs is squatting over top of a mirror And I read it and I was like This guy might be fucking right He knows Tone better than us Normally it's like a Sunday morning routine, but I was on the road yesterday, so I switched it to nighttime.
Starting point is 03:00:30 How was the nightshade? Was the grass a little greener? I didn't like the, because I normally use natural lighting, and I had to use the artificial light, which was great. Well, we know you like LED lighting. Is that what you use? These stadiums are looking great these days. That was a big thing you kind of took up with the internet, saying,
Starting point is 03:00:43 there's some poorly lit stadiums. All the Buffalo Bills have very poorly lit stadiums. Very poorly lit. And they were on primetime all the time and it pissed me off. At this stage 2023, let's have good lighting. Let's have good lighting. Now granted, it took us nine months to get good lighting. It's a lot easier to say. Yeah, but they're hiring fucking well.
Starting point is 03:00:58 We're hiring people. Allegedly do. You remember day one they had one two lights up there? Oh yeah. That's the difference right there lights just went off and they're back whoa day one there was one light up facing this way one light facing that way and i said it is a bit surprising with that whole rig that you have built up there only one light each way that's what i said i said is that good and the lady person said yeah you're perfectly fine i remember he's professional okay all right i've been i feel
Starting point is 03:01:23 like i've been on a couple sets i've never seen one might be able to do the trick, but here I guess you figured it out. Thank you so much. He did not. He didn't. No, he didn't. It was terrible. It was horrendous, actually.
Starting point is 03:01:33 A lot of the people who did stuff were. But then there's a lot of good people, too. Amen. And we appreciate that. Thank you. Thank you. All right. We did a giveaway earlier.
Starting point is 03:01:43 It's fucking good Monday. Nick's married. We got a big did a giveaway earlier. It's fucking good Monday. Nick's married. We got a big time Tuesday coming tomorrow. Huge. What lies will be said on the internet before tomorrow's show? Hopefully a lot. Good question. We do have sources at a couple different places that have said a couple different things.
Starting point is 03:01:56 Yeah, we do. How about this? Tomorrow, there's a little Odell Beckham news. Ooh. Okay. Tomorrow, we got a little Houston Texans news. Ooh. That's big.
Starting point is 03:02:04 Tomorrow, we got some great guests that are going to talk about good stuff. And tomorrow we'll have yet another day getting a chance to chat with the Ohio champion, A.J. Hawk. A.J., is there anything you'd like to say to the rest of the country, the rest of the world, as the champion of Ohio about the state of the state of Ohio? No, but thank you for trying to get this bit going again. I appreciate you what why don't you share just won the fucking championship on saturday you want to give an inspirational talk here before we fall you're the champion of ohio
Starting point is 03:02:35 ohio's finest okay didn't know if you won the opportunity to potentially address the world as the face of ohio currently 8 000 coaches you spoke in front of you said yeah i'm okay actually as soon as i got up there i dropped that and fell off the podium and fell as the face of Ohio currently. 8,000 coaches you spoke in front of you said. Bam. I'm okay. Actually, as soon as I got up there, I dropped that. It fell off the podium and fell on the ground. Jesus Christ. Is that real?
Starting point is 03:02:50 Picked it right back up. 100% real. And then, of course, someone yelled. I was like, I set myself up for the old good thing you play defense joke. Wow. I'm surprised somebody didn't say, that's a busted fucking fingers. The whole thought of that thing not busting is so Ohio. So Ohio.
Starting point is 03:03:06 And I assume you said that. I did say something about the strength of the actual award, yeah. Look how Ohio this trophy is. The strength of Ohio. My broken, disgusting fingers fucking bopped this thing right off of it. As soon as you guys gave me the award to represent this state, I said, fuck this thing. Look at how good it is.
Starting point is 03:03:24 This thing's tough. Just like the people of the great state of Ohio. Hell yeah. Is that what you started with? Well, I mean, I definitely got some comments afterwards of my little fingies and how messed up they might be because you realize these high school coaches, like a lot of high school coaches are 25, 35 years old.
Starting point is 03:03:44 They're all young. A lot of them are very young. So some of them are dialed into this program. So they had some ideas about my fingers and hands. Okay, well those people that were there, please let us know what the state of Ohio champions said. Yeah. Because this guy refuses to tell us fucking anything. Someone filmed it, right?
Starting point is 03:03:59 Had to have. I doubt it. You guys got cameras in Ohio? Nope. Didn't think so. All right. AJ. Just still shots. I'm not going to ask you every day, but certainly in the next few.
Starting point is 03:04:15 Would you like to say anything to the globe as Ohio's champion? You're basically the president of Ohio. Come on. Anything to say to the people about the state of Ohio? No. Today, I do not. Maybe I might later. And maybe when you started talking about inspirational things,
Starting point is 03:04:31 it got me thinking of VCon and all the speakers Gary has coming to VCon. Have one of those guys on if you need something good like that. Are you going to get invited now that you're the champion of Ohio? I mean, I'd like to go just as a spectator. I don't need to talk. You're a champion of Ohio. I think you get fucking first class tickets yeah you can do anything you want
Starting point is 03:04:47 okay call Gare Gare already knows when is VCon for real I know Ty's going May 16th I think he just started an NBA division May 12th what is it
Starting point is 03:05:02 I thought it was like May 6th, 7th, 8th. No, I think it's... First weekend of May. Certainly in May. May 18th and 20th. Got time to get there. You'll be what, a month and a half into your stint as president of Ohio?
Starting point is 03:05:19 Do I get a year term? Four. How much do you know about the political process? Do they name Ohio's finest every single year? Yeah. I think they've been doing it since 2012, they said. Did Bobby Carpenter cry when he didn't get it and you did? Has Bobby Carpenter won it?
Starting point is 03:05:36 Yeah. I would assume Bobby has won it before, yeah. Hell yeah, Bob. We would have saw it, though, because he has all his trophies behind him. You're right. Maybe it's behind you. We just didn't know what to look for. Why don't you have it behind you? I got all these books
Starting point is 03:05:50 and stuff. It's not true. Can't be lying now that you're the face of Ohio. You should melt it down to a cigar holder. Oh, an ashtray. Yeah. You should put an ashtray on the front of that thing. That'd be the most Ohio thing
Starting point is 03:06:05 Yeah, people would probably change the trophy to have that Holy shit, with some cigarette butts It's gotta be cigs Cigs and cigars We're both, okay We don't discriminate on tobacco So you don't want to say anything to the people after winning the Ohio championship?
Starting point is 03:06:23 Nah I appreciate those coaches and everybody that was in attendance and Ryan Day and the other coaches that were there. It was great to see them. I saw James, my buddy. James is coaching at Ohio State now. Good to see him in action. Coach Laurinaitis.
Starting point is 03:06:34 Yep. Is he hard-nosed? Is he blowing a whistle? Oh, yeah. James was showing me. They had practiced at the stadium that day, so James was showing me footage of him. He strapped on a big chest pad and arm pads,
Starting point is 03:06:45 and he was mulling the linebackers and holding them and trying to get them to chop them off and get off the block. Like Vrabel, that's the move, huh? That's the Ohio Finest move. Yeah. Oh, yeah. James isn't messing around. He's on a – I think James is going to be on that, like,
Starting point is 03:06:58 heartline trajectory of just superstar. Okay. Well, good luck to James. Good luck to heartline. Good luck to you, Ohio State Buckeyes. Good luck to all of college. Because West Virginia ain't fucking around. We used to pay the guy $800,000 to come play basketball.
Starting point is 03:07:11 Saw that. Top five. He started doing that for football, too. Well, I don't know if we got enough money in the tank to pay for every position we need in football. But I do know that there is a thought around West Virginia like, hey, we can pay for four or five guys in basketball. Let's go win. And all of a sudden, we can really get back on the map of sports. That'd be great news.
Starting point is 03:07:27 We got to transfer out of Syracuse. Yeah. Goes to West Virginia. Guy's a dog. Allegedly really good. I'm pumped. He was like the number three guy in the portal. Ooh.
Starting point is 03:07:35 We're back. How big? Oh, they paid him 800K? Allegedly. That's what's being reported. Probably. Well, you drive through. At least you got paid to play.
Starting point is 03:07:41 That's what Ohio State's been doing, huh? Mm-hmm. You drive through Columbus on your way to Pittsburgh, and you know how they pay for everything. Fucking Uncle Wexie's name is on fucking every hospital and every building in that fucking town. You're right. And I don't know who's doing the money for West Virginia.
Starting point is 03:07:54 I think it's the guy that owns the Diamondbacks. But happy with. Arizona Diamondbacks? He doesn't own the Diamondbacks, I don't think. I don't think he's associated with them. I don't think. Who's the owner of the Arizona Diamondbacks? I have no idea. I don't think he's associated with them. I don't think. Who's the owner of the Arizona Diamondbacks? He's a West Virginia guy.
Starting point is 03:08:09 You got a pretty good team this year. I'm pretty sure. Because we played in the Fiesta Bowl and it was a big conversation. Like, oh, Bud's going to be here. No, we did not, but we heard he was going to be at the game. I was like, oh, great. Is he going to give us any money? No. Can't at that time. Now he is. Ken Kendrick.
Starting point is 03:08:24 He's a West Virginia guy. Yeah. Born in Princeton, West Virginia. Alma mater, Western University. Nice. He's the guy. Oh, you know he's the guy when his actual name's Earl Gentry, but he goes by Ken. Got great hair, too. Look at that fucking... He does. Ken Kendrick ain't fucking around, dude. He's 79 years old and he said, I want a winter back at
Starting point is 03:08:41 West Virginia before my time. He's got some Frank from Succession in him. Does he have a cookie named after him? Did you watch Succession last night? I have not. I hear it's a good one, though. I mean, there are. So I will. I'm going to see it. It was a great setup. Oh, you didn't like it? Really? Why?
Starting point is 03:09:04 I don't know what to say. I don't know what to say. I don't know how to say it. Yeah, you do. You can tell them. What's wrong? You can just say it. It's fine. It's hard for me to give a fuck about the people that don't found the company.
Starting point is 03:09:16 You know? Just because of our relationships with people that have been either handed the baton or been middle management for companies. Normally, massive doofuses. Who have just happened to find themselves. Right place right time. Not trying to advance the company. Just trying not to get fired.
Starting point is 03:09:33 These people suck at their jobs. But because founder. Gets fired. Or dies. Gets fired. Gets run out. These people all of a sudden are no longer middle management. Now they're in positions of power.
Starting point is 03:09:47 I struggle with those humans a lot. So you don't like the characters now that the big guy isn't around. Yeah, I'm bummed the big guys aren't around. Just because he is scumbag terror. Are they going to have some flashbacks? They should do some flashbacks so we can still be involved. They won't. I don't think we're getting any flashbacks.
Starting point is 03:10:03 Nope. But the story for everything else is good it is yeah great story i just think logan one of the greatest characters on tv personally just because it's allegedly after a couple different people two different people who actually did stuff and were very successful and also massive fucking assholes i think a lot of people would say but got to the top so it's like i think that's an interesting story you know what i mean for me personally the people that are just kind of it's not as interesting for me but i could see how there could be scandal yeah all over the next few weeks so next week should expedite things quite a bit did you just want it to, what happened in episode three, to happen later? Yes. Okay, so you knew it was happening. Way too early.
Starting point is 03:10:47 You knew it was happening. Okay, okay. Week three, though, of a ten-week thing, it's like, we got a long time without the actual motherfucker that did everything in my personal eyes. Yeah. You know what I mean? I haven't watched yet, but I assume Logan's got a trick up his sleeve. He had an in-case I died.
Starting point is 03:11:04 Well, that's safe to say Shut up Mark I haven't seen this episode We didn't spoil anything From this episode If you're two weeks behind sorry about it I know what you're saying It is tough especially because he was
Starting point is 03:11:18 One of the funniest characters in the whole thing But it is still like I'm invested in the other characters as well I don't see how you're going to be able to come back from this. I really don't. Well, especially if the character that I like the most is kind of just getting shooed off for a minute and a half on the whole episode. Can't have that.
Starting point is 03:11:34 Billy Gardell got shooed off for... I don't think Billy Gardell is in succession. He was a last season member. But if he was in this particular one, I would be a little bit more invested if he potentially was going to get... There's a couple people that didn't just get it handed to him who were there.
Starting point is 03:11:50 If they would have been able to work their way up a little quicker, I think I would have enjoyed it. Last night seems to tell me that they will not be, which is a little bit of a buzz. Yeah, the guy that you are going to have to buy all into is Mattson. You're just going to have to go all in on Gojo. Alright, I'm in on Mattson, but once again, he was on like three minutes last night so he wasn't yeah he wasn't
Starting point is 03:12:08 there was a full episode of just people that had everything handed to him pretty yeah yesterday was like a setup episode because there was only one well then you need to release two episodes on those days we need two episodes out you can't just have me sitting for 14 days between fucking good shit happening that again that's just rude 2023. They're making weird decisions over there. They just made HBO Max just Max. I mean, HBO carries a lot of weight in that fucking thing. They charged the, it's upcharged too for Hulu. I'm getting another five bucks.
Starting point is 03:12:33 Upcharged for premium. For HBO Max. Yeah. Well, I'll tell you what, you killed a guy that I was paying for, so. True. Hope you find a way to bring him back. Matt's going to help you.
Starting point is 03:12:44 Oh, yeah. So that was what? Yeah, that was last season. Yeah, he's the fifth sibling. Yeah. We're a little early to be doing this, and people might not have watched episode. But if this was the cast, I'd be fucking all in right now. It's not.
Starting point is 03:12:59 And Billy Gardell has lost 70 pounds since this photo has been taken. Feels like the guy on the couch probably going to have a lot of play, but still early in the season. That's right. Still early in the season. Too early. Did Con get elected president on last night's episode? Nope, but he's talking about taking a run at it, and he did
Starting point is 03:13:17 acquire something pretty quickly. He's got, I think he said Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan, and North Dakota coming up. Yeah, a little honeymoon planned. Battleground states. Let's get out of here. I'm fucking bummed that they killed that guy that early.
Starting point is 03:13:33 Yeah. I do feel bad for you because the show, in your mind, just seems to be over. Is there anything weird about his death? Was it natural? Do we know? There was no real follow-up on that. I think there could be something on oh yeah tom and greg actually do discuss some of the more finer details it is nice which once
Starting point is 03:13:51 again more of those two uh-huh they better next episode make up for the lack of time that those two had yeah in this past episode i also fear that that their time might be dwindling really can't could you imagine they do that? Hey, what are the best characters on this show? Fuck them, fuck them, fuck them. Who's the worst? Give them all the time? Can't do that.
Starting point is 03:14:13 Wombs Gam's got something up his sleeve. He was working last night. He was. I really, really hope. It's what they did with Game of Thrones, isn't it? They fucked it all up. I don't know if they fucked it all up. They had that Starbucks cup in there, but you're right.
Starting point is 03:14:25 They did kill everybody, didn't they? Yeah, everyone was pissed. Well, thus far, I do not think Succession has fucked it up at all. In your eyes. Yeah, I'm just saying it's possible. He killed him so early. He was so good. About week seven, you know?
Starting point is 03:14:41 Give me three weeks of... Have they shown the body yet? Did they show the body at all? Did his family get to go identify the body or anything like that? They did that at the end of the last episode. AJ, just put that thought that you have in your brain to rest. He's not alive. He's very dead.
Starting point is 03:14:56 I will not. See, that would be sweet. That would be sweet. Maybe that's a flashback. I don't know why. Gardell playing a young Logan Roy. Here we go. What are you doing here?
Starting point is 03:15:10 If a Yinzer takes over ATN and Waco and Gojo and everything like that, count me back in. Kill him two seasons ago. If it ends up with Billy Gardell. Fuck off. Don't be so nebby, you jag off.
Starting point is 03:15:26 Oh, that was awesome. My wife learned about what the word nebby means. You know what the word nebby means? I do not. What is it? Yeah, that was interesting. So that's something that Pittsburgh has that nobody else has. We always talk about Don and Gum Band and Buggy and Yins and that.
Starting point is 03:15:40 Slippy. Something like that. Slippy for slippery. Nebby is a Pittsburghese word that I just assumed everybody knew. We walked into a little boutique shop down at Strip. They had these mugs. It said yins, jag off,
Starting point is 03:15:54 nebby, then Pittsburgh. And I was like, oh, we need to get that nebby one or whatever. Sam had no clue what it meant. What does that mean? She had no idea. I'm like, oh, that's just classic Pittsburgh word right there. Happy that got brought back into our life. Stop being a little nev shit.
Starting point is 03:16:10 You know what I mean? That means nosy. Kind of nosy. Stop being so nev-y, you know? Kind of dick. Sure. They ever read up your room with? Yeah, read up is a good one.
Starting point is 03:16:21 They did not, though. Yeah, I think people know what that is, though. Nope. Like read up? Yeah. Like learn about something good one. They do not, though. Yeah, I think people know what that is, though. Nope. Like Red Up? Yeah. Like Learn About Something? Nope. Clean Up.
Starting point is 03:16:30 Clean Up. Nope. It's all new to me. They know that one already. Pittsburgh's an awesome place. Own dialect. Found a place that could be our studio if we were to have one there. A couple of places.
Starting point is 03:16:41 I also heard in every speech that Carly's group gave, like, hey, move back to Pittsburgh. Is that happening happening are you moving back to pittsburgh nick what was i i heard that in the heard in two speeches like we hope you come to pittsburgh i'm like damn i didn't think i thought about adding that to my speech like sounds like you guys are making a decision our whole company's going we're moving back pittsburgh that is we just built the sun and fuck this place i guess but yeah we will but then as i was there i was like maybe we do have an office back in pittsburgh that is we just built the thunder damn fuck this place i guess but yeah we will but then as i was there i was like maybe we do have an office back in pittsburgh there's some spots that are open there are big spaces very much alive a lot of nice houses in the area we could go back yeah i was a massive fan of pittsburgh uh the only thought is if we
Starting point is 03:17:20 were to go back then we still have same seasons as here. Yeah, we'd like to go to warm weather. For the cold weather, yeah. True, but there you don't got to pay for the stadiums. All right. Hoorah, brother. Tomorrow's a big day. Be a friend, tell a friend about it. AJ, congrats on being the face of Ohio.
Starting point is 03:17:36 Tomorrow we will expect a speech of some sort. Please. Yeah, for sure. This is a talk show. Can't wait. You're going to have to talk. Start working on it. Yeah, I will. I'm going to start jotting down have to talk. Start working on it. Yeah, I will.
Starting point is 03:17:45 I'm going to start jotting down ideas right now. All right, let's start brainstorming here quickly. What do you want to make sure we hit? Hard work. You already have written down. You gave it to her. Tough. A lot of good cliches.
Starting point is 03:17:57 Yeah, a lot of good football cliches. Bounce back ability. I'll tell you something. You want to succeed more than you want to breathe. Walk into the ocean and drown yourself. You're talking about E.T., the hip-hop preacher. Yeah, that is his story that he made famous. Tells it a lot better than I just did.
Starting point is 03:18:14 Yeah, he's got, I want money, I want to swim. You know, yeah, the whole speech. That's a good speech. I heard it in real life. He delivered it to our team. It was a great delivery. Did you get the boys going? Hell yeah, I got the boys going.
Starting point is 03:18:26 What are you talking about? Motivation, dude. Yeah, well, it's in a team meeting. I wasn't sure what part of the day it was. It was the end of the day. Everybody was pissed. It was a forced on a speaker, but E.T., the hip hop preacher, was great. That's what I thought.
Starting point is 03:18:35 He was the most well-liked. We also had Navy SEAL come through. It was like the size of a D-tackle. He was awesome. Okay. He was the one who gave the know your why speech. Know your why, what's your why, what's your why. Then he saw like every NFL guy be like, I found my why.
Starting point is 03:18:48 You know, they were tweeting it out like, what's your why? I found it. It was like, oh, they must have the same speech from us. And he talked about tribe, what's your tribe, and know your why. Good speech. That guy was very well liked. He also told a story about being dropped off in the middle of the ocean and just calling sharks the guys in the gray suits.
Starting point is 03:19:04 Yep. And that was pretty funny. Hey, how'd you handle the sharks out there? I always call them the guys in the gray suits. And that was pretty funny. Hey, how'd you handle the sharks out there? I always call them the guys in the gray suits. They were certainly out there, yeah. He's a heavy guy. I don't think he can float that well. So his story resonated with a lot of big fat guys.
Starting point is 03:19:16 But you went over the fat guys in the room. Normally, you went over the whole room. He did that. There was a couple of speakers that came in there, and they had some tough days. Bunch of duds. Yeah, yeah. Tough hour, tough hour. How about you? I assume similar?
Starting point is 03:19:29 Yeah, pretty much the exact same situation during my time. The Navy SEAL, good. Yeah, a couple of them, yeah, come in, and they instantly kind of have an air about them or a resume, so they get respect, and then they're very good with their message. And then others were like, okay, let's see how this goes, and then 12 seconds in, they're almost getting clapped out of the room hate this guy okay go to run you guys well it's usually like high horse or the guys some people want to come in there as a high horse and be like you guys i know you guys play football but you're
Starting point is 03:19:57 all just big dumb idiots you need to listen to me when it comes to this pretty much you guys need to be smarter when it comes have you ever talked to me motherfucker you know you know any of us sorry bud you don't know me who needs to be smarter ben and terry maybe yeah he's a little loose cannon i guess this guy's talking to you he's not talking to me i'm talking to everybody in here oh fuck he is oh he is talking to me you're talking to me okay all right pal yeah it's a whole you're right the the clap after the first clap break after we all learn that we hate the guy. The best one. All right! Good run! Start standing.
Starting point is 03:20:29 Guys in the aisle are starting to make the turn to go out of the room. Shake the hand, yeah. People going up to shake the hand. Hey, you did great! I'll move on to my next slide here. Player personnel guy freaking out, telling guys to sit down. All right. Let's go to the next slide, I guess.
Starting point is 03:20:51 All right. you guys need to start being better at oh here we go again so you can't like go take a shit or something no you have to be in there the fucking player personnel person like has actual it's a real thing nfl mandated yeah it's nfl mandated okay motivational speeches or something like that i forget what the fuck they call it what do they call it uh education some kind of they always frame it as some kind of education to the players for or something like that. I forget what the fuck they call it. What do they call it? Education. They always frame it as some kind of education to the players for something. I don't know if a lot of people know that this is happening. Just like all these corporate... They get paid very well, too.
Starting point is 03:21:14 All these corporate speakers that corporations have where you have to go fucking fake like you're interested in something. That's happening in the NFL as well. People are coming in, speaking to the whole building sometimes, speaking just to the team. And boy, that has to be the hardest crowd that any of those people go into.
Starting point is 03:21:30 Bunch of guys who have a lot of money, bunch of guys who are tired at the point in which the day is, and a lot of hard-headed, stubborn guys. You know what I mean? The reason why you're in the NFL, why? Because you're pretty stubborn normally. Hey, you shouldn't just worry about football. You should worry about this.
Starting point is 03:21:44 Oh, fuck off. I'm going to make it to the NFL. Why? Because you're pretty stubborn normally. Hey, you shouldn't just worry about football. You should worry about this. Oh, fuck off. I'm going to make it to the NFL. A lot of people have that mindset. So then whenever the person that created the internet's coming in, you know, in their mind to talk to us about it, it's like, good luck, dude. Good luck. But there's been some great speakers. That's why, like, on Hard Knocks, when a comedian went in there.
Starting point is 03:22:01 Yeah, crushed. And did well. I was like, fucking very impressive. Meant a lot. That is tough because as you were saying, comedian was coming in and dead. This guy is dead. And then he went over the whole room. Like, okay, good for this guy.
Starting point is 03:22:13 Real talent right there. Would book that guy to get in there and speak. Not everybody has that. Some people get their asses booed out of there. Did you guys have any comedians or good things or was it just seminars and bullshit? We had Frank Luntz. You remember who that guy is? I do.
Starting point is 03:22:27 Frank Luntz. We did, too. I don't know who. Did he have those shoes on, American flag shoes on? I don't know about shoes. I know he played all this, like, reactions to different things. You know, he's, like, real-time polling, right? Isn't that what he does?
Starting point is 03:22:40 Focus groups. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's a big focus group guy. This guy hit a homer, huh? We all remember him for, think the same reason he was smarter than every human that ever talked ever wasn't he i think after the first clap break like five minutes in he's like don't guys hey don't worry guys i'll be i'm gonna be done here in 50 minutes or so and then everyone's like oh oh no like they're start checking like this is not even close to what I thought it was. There's the shoes. Yeah, I saw those shoes. He deals with a lot of politicians.
Starting point is 03:23:09 This guy? He was talking to us. I actually learned about this guy in a sociology class because of his focus groups and what he's all done. I'd known of this human whenever he was coming in to speak to us. I heard he was speaking to us like an hour, two hours beforehand. I was like, what the fuck is this guy
Starting point is 03:23:23 talking to us about? Because this is like a political, it's like a very political world. It was brought in by the media relations people on what to say, what not to say. Showed us a video of Pete Carroll. And then while Pete Carroll was talking, they showed the focus group, whether or not they were giving a thumbs up or thumbs down.
Starting point is 03:23:39 And it was like this, this thing underneath Pete. And it was like green, green, green, green, green, green, everything he was saying. And then somebody else who was like this this thing underneath pete and it was like green green green green green green everything he was saying and then somebody else it was like red boom red boom red boom but what that person was saying where it was getting red like got big pop out of the whole room it's like the whole room was laughing at the answer that was given but he was like that's not good obviously look at the reaction from the people it's like yo we're not running for fucking president pal that is uh that's a hilarious So he and I had a little bit of a differing opinion on some things. Lindsey?
Starting point is 03:24:10 But I have respect for what he's done in the political world. But he was brought into a fucking football locker room in training camp at the end of the day. He had no shot, let alone whenever he was talking about how bad we answer questions and stuff, as if we were running for president. It's like, hey, we don't stuff, as if we were running for president. It's like, hey, we don't give a fuck if we piss off fans from another team. That is not – we don't care.
Starting point is 03:24:34 We're not running to represent the United States of America. But his point was made, I think. You guys try to clap him out? Yeah, we pretty much had a very similar situation to what you did. The same video being played and everything when guys are like, yeah, it's the same thing. We play football. We're not really worried about all this stuff, big guy.
Starting point is 03:24:52 Well, Frank Luntz played football, I thought. He might have. I'm not sure. He would have been a great I-back, but he may be DB. DB, yeah. He had speed. That's why he has the American flag shoes. He backpedaled down the stairs. He did not have to.
Starting point is 03:25:09 Okay, breaking news coming up. But he told us the same thing he told AJ. You guys don't have to clap for me every slide here. All right. That was good. That was great work. All right, Frank, thank you for taking time. I always hope that they don't know what's going on.
Starting point is 03:25:28 I'm like, I really hope you don't. They clapped a lot. Me and Vinny, like third row, normally second row, team meeting and in training camp. I always felt like I was an early riser. All right. Here we go. Because I had more energy than everybody else. They had to do actual shit
Starting point is 03:25:45 I'm just wasting time all day Learning how to play cornhole better But yeah it was Here we go this guy Conti PR guy Pat just Can you please just give the guy Man this guy's fucking wrong though
Starting point is 03:26:00 Dude you know what I know I have respect for him I've studied this guy I know him in sociology I know what he's talking about. You think we give a fuck about what the state of Ohio thinks about what we're giving answers to? Absolutely not. Okay, swing state.
Starting point is 03:26:11 Cool. We don't give a fuck, dude. Alright, breaking news out of the NFL. Michael Thomas is deadlifting 500-some pounds. Michael Thomas is deadlifting 530 pounds. The NFL has tweeted it out. He's all the way back. Look at this guy. Absolute game changer for the Saints.
Starting point is 03:26:27 He's missed a couple years. There's been a couple communication issues with, is he going to get surgery? Is he going to heal it himself? He didn't get surgery. He was going to heal it himself. Then he had to get surgery. Missed a whole other season.
Starting point is 03:26:37 We didn't know if he hated the Saints. The Saints hated him. He being back on the field would be good for any team, including the Saints and Derek Carr. Looks like he's back. 5.30 is nothing to laugh at, A.J. Hawk. No, especially for a wideout. But where is that?
Starting point is 03:26:51 Is he at the Saints facility? Everyone opened up their off-season program, didn't they? I don't know. He looks sweet, obviously. It doesn't appear to be the Saints program. Looks like he's maybe in a garage that has been turned into a gym. But nonetheless, he has NFL sweats on. So maybe that did come from the Saints equipment room.
Starting point is 03:27:08 He looks great. Draft him in your fantasy. Draft him in your fantasy. Michael Thomas is all the way back. We'll be back tomorrow with a big time show. Good luck to all the teams playing in all the sports. Boston Bruins entire team is sick. That's right. Not true. Just a rumor. But we will
Starting point is 03:27:24 be playing tonight. I'm glad you brought up the playoffs. What time do the Pens That's right. That is not true. Just a rumor. But we will be playing tonight. I'm glad you brought up the playoffs. What time do the Pens play? So the Pens are not playing. But if we were to play, we wouldn't have a stomach bug because we understand this is the most important time of year and we'd be taking care of ourselves. No, because the most important time of the year is actually on your home ice against the second worst team in the NHL and you lost.
Starting point is 03:27:38 Yeah, we did lose, but everybody was healthy. They weren't getting sick out there. They were living like adults. So your healthy team won loss over our... 100% healthy. Yeah, living like adults. So your healthy team won, lost, so of our... 100% healthy, yeah, 100% healthy, 100% healthy, we lose. But the Boston Bruins, a team that just broke the record since 2005, most wins in an NHL season. Ever, ever.
Starting point is 03:27:56 Most wins, 65 bigger than 62. So they're going to win it all for sure. Most wins ever. Certainly most wins ever, if you just look at the stat. But in 2005, they changed the rules to have a shootout, so there was a definite winner in every game. There wasn't any ties. They had four shootout dubs, so that could potentially be eliminated from the 65.
Starting point is 03:28:13 Sorry about it. Then they would have 61 instead of 62, but they got 65. Still impressive. And nobody cared about hockey before the salary cap era per hockey people. Nick Roto, and that's hockey. That only applies to the Red Wings. Okay, but that's not what people say. But more wins
Starting point is 03:28:28 than anybody since 2005. Ever. And ever. That team allegedly, stomach bug running through the entire team. Everybody. Boom, boom, boom, boom. They're all sick. Allegedly for tonight. Connor, you heard the same rumor? Yes, I heard the same rumor checked with a couple sources and that
Starting point is 03:28:44 rumor is not true. Over the weekend, yeah, there might have been a couple people sick. Everything is all good tonight. Feel good about it. That's your sources? That is my sources. Alright, Bruins are in full health tonight. Better run right through them then. Wow, just like they are
Starting point is 03:28:59 running right through them this week. Alright, good luck to the Bruins. Take on the Panthers in the NHL playoffs. Any other games tonight in the NHL? Yeah, three others. Islanders, Hurricanes, Wild Stars, Kings, Oilers. And we got NBA playoffs, too.
Starting point is 03:29:16 Let's have a hell of a Monday. See you guys tomorrow. AJ, thank you for being a champion of Ohio. Big shout out to Lombo, Shams, and Rappaport. Tomorrow's a big day. Be a friend, tell a friend, something nice. We're going to Chef Bo's. Goodbye.

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