The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 893 - Draft Spectacular Wednesday with Coach Prime, Charles Davis, Adam Lefkoe, and Bijan Robinson

Episode Date: April 26, 2023

On today’s show, Pat, AJ Hawk, Pacman Jones, and the boys break dahn more news coming from the New York Jets trade for Aaron Rodgers, and quickly jumps right into an interview with the electrifying Coach Prime, aka Deion Sanders. Pat and the boys then get into some pre-draft conversation was we are only one sleep away from the 4th annual Draft Spectacular, Pat brings on Charles Davis to talk about the latest rumors and speculations leading up to the event. As the NBA playoffs are in full swing, Pat brings on TNT basketball host Adam Lefkoe to get into the latest news and buzzes about the NBA’s first rounds action. To end the show today Pat brings on potential draftee Bijan Robinson to talk about his draft process and expectations. Make sure you subscribe to the youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show and tune in Thursday night around 7:40pm for the 4th annual Draft Spectacular. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people. Welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this Draft Spectacular Week, Wednesday, April 26, 2023. This program starts right now. Much mana! Hey, much mana to you guys as well, because we are just one day away from the fourth annual Draft Spectacular, where 31 kids will have their dreams come true as they get drafted to the NFL. Right now, it is a hot time to be spreading rumors about said draft. The number two overall pick has like 15 different stories around it, including a Bill Belichick trade all the way up there, sending Mac Jones down to Houston. Here you go, Nick. You got a quarterback issue. I got a

quarterback for you. We'll do another first rounder next year, maybe another two. We'll do this whole swap. We will be able to take the quarterback that we want seemingly, and that is now just one of the stories surrounding pick number two. Also, on Up and Adams this morning, D'Amico Ryans, who's an Alabama man, allegedly was chatting

with Will Anderson about everything that he would like to do as a nine technique outside rushing the passer. It was a really good, smooth combo. They had a blast, and that's what he would do with Will Anderson. It that he would like to do as a nine technique outside rushing the passer. It was a really good, smooth combo. They had a blast, and that's what he would do with Will Anderson. It's like, well, why is he even thinking about that unless they're thinking about taking him in number two? And I thought C.J. Stroud was supposed to go number two overall. Will Levis is all of a sudden in the conversation

for definitely going top five. He's going to the Colts if he doesn't go at two or three or three. That could be the Tennessee Titans who could trade up because they got Tannehill on a $36 million contract. But they might need somebody else. We're talking bullshit city right now. And that is why the draft cycle is fantastic. That's why we can't wait for our biggest show of the year

for the last three years. This year it will not be. No, a little different this year. Aaron Rodgers, who has officially stepped foot into the New York Jets facility today. He has a press conference coming up in an hour and 56 minutes that'll be aired on NFL Network, introducing

him to the New York Jets faithful whenever he, this guy came on our show to say that he wanted to do this exact walk. That's what he said. He said, I want to do this real cool walk. I'm going to wear all black. I'm going to have Adidas shoes on because I'm an Adidas guy, but I'm going to walk in there, sunglasses on, Top Gun style

motherfucker. Welcome to my new home. And when I get in there, Woody Johnson is going to greet me, okay? With an incredible interaction. Big time smile by the way. The two that spent 11 hours in Malibu together just a few weeks back. Whatever the whole thing. He went in for the shoulder to the chest. Woody said, I can take it. I'm a tough

old guy. Don't know who this man is. I probably should. Sala with a great dab on Aaron Rodgers. Then this man who I thought was potentially Joe Douglas, not him.

The guy in the back there. I'm like, oh, Joe looks a little different than what I imagined. That's Nathaniel Hackett. Nathaniel Hackett obviously knows it from the gold zone

and there's the guy that got the deal done with Gunter Kunz and look at that smile. Genuine happiness. Pumped. So pumped to be there. I think this relationship is going to be a great one.

Look at the way Aaron's looking around. And look at the way Salah's looking at Aaron. Unbelievable. Fireman Ed was on TMZ this morning and said, we're pumped, bro. Yeah, okay. We got arguably one of the best quarterbacks of all time. It's not arguable, okay? Fireman Ed, just fucking say the guy. We got the best thrower of the football of all time. It's not arguable, okay? Fireman Ed, just fucking say the guy.

We got the best thrower of the football of all time. They, and he's going to be on scorched earth. I know he was just in Costa Rica for a wellness retreat, allegedly, before this trade was finished up. That was reported. That wellness retreat made him feel good to come in here and fucking let's go. Get pumped.

So hold on, the Packers don't want me anymore, huh? Oh, I'm washed, they said. Let me go back to the hole. Okay. Let me figure this out. The rest of the NFL is saying, Jets got fleeced for this deal. All the Jets got was this fucking old hippie

in the big city. It's like Aaron and the Jets have so much to just kind of internalize. Lombardi was talking about Bill Belichick here, and everybody say that they're the fourth in their division now. And Michael Lombardi said about 70-something-year-old Bill Belichick. He's like, oh, good competitors love that type of stuff. They use that as motivation and everything like that.

What do you think Aaron's doing right now? Same thing. This is just a fuck. It is going to be bananas. We assume he's going to be at OTAs. I guess that was reported the other day that that is the assumption on all parties. We did not report that, but that's what we hear. He's going to go and light it up.

Will they be able to make it in a very tough AFC? We shall see. But whenever he was talking about going to the New York Jets because of that, you know, everything that he has gone through and where he's at now after the darkness, it was 496,000 people watching this at one time. A lot of people. Okay, concurrently. That means right at this this at one time. A lot of people. Okay, concurrently. That means right at this exact time.

Boom. A lot of people. And then everybody was just kind of tweeting about it because Aaron Rodgers is a fucking dog. So that is technically... And by dog, I mean not just on the football field. I mean dog like every human talks about Aaron Rodgers. Yeah.

Loves him. No. Well, what? Not everybody. Who? I just want to let you know, when those 496,000 people were watching, there was some people, and I've seen a good

couple, I mean, it was... A few scrolls? Yeah, I mean, if you think about how many, there's like eight tweets on one screen, depending upon your screen size. If you go like 10 scrolls, that's 80 tweets. Okay? Not that many in the grand scheme of Twitter as a whole, but

10 scrolls. You know, that's a long... Oh! Oh! Next one. Oh! in the grand scheme of Twitter as a whole, but 10 scrolls. That's a long... Oh, oh, oh. Next one. Oh, oh. Fuck. You know? It's only 80 people,

but those 80 people felt like they had to go say something and they represent, you assume, a larger group, which is just like on the good side of Twitter. You just got to assume it's a good focus group. Not everybody loves Aaron Rodgers. That's messed up. But Aaron Rodgers is must-watch. He's must-listen to.

That's what we've learned from this particular program. And people are going to take it how it is. So there's no way the draft spectacular will be anywhere near what that was. But we've got some big things in store. The toxic table is going to obviously dominate at Boston. Connor, can't wait to see your performance tomorrow night in the draft spectacular, pal. Yeah, very excited for it.

Last year, you know, dressed as a stormtrooper, you know, was just kind of figuring, you know, might as well mix it up. And then this year, we got something cooking. I feel very, very good about it. You might want to dial it up to about 20, pal, because there's reports on the internet, which one half of the hammer,

Don Cowboy's Tone Diggs loves to quote on this particular program. Sure. And it pisses a lot of people off. I don't know where you're going to be getting some of your quotes from now, though. Oh, no. Your guy, your lord and savior. Oh, Tone Carlson. Oh, no.

He's out. Oh, no. I watched the other guy left. Mr. Lemon. Yeah, but nobody's calling you Tone Lemon. No, no, no. That's because everyone in the chat stinks in their fucking marks. All right.

Don't need that type of hostility. It's a big week for us. Good luck with those scrolls. But the Reddit is reporting, somebody on Reddit, which is supposed to be the face of the Internet. I've never been able to figure out Reddit, so I don't dabble. But there's a lot of people in this office that love the Reddit, and they find a lot of stuff that I can't find on Twitter,

so mad respect for Reddit and what it is. There is a report that Bill Belichick's going to trade up to number two. Because you have to wonder, why has Nick Casario been so damn quiet? If Carolina Panthers are definitely drafting Bryce Young, which it seems like all parties have disagreed upon. Here we go, Bryce Young. Except for Will

Levis, who's allegedly telling family members that the Carolina Panthers are going to draft him. So then that kind of... Is Will Levis going to get drafted? And then that has has disappeared that was around for like 10 hours or so yeah then it's kind of settled back in that Bryce Young is going to be the pick so Houston's been real tight-lipped haven't even told people in the building allegedly yeah most of them don't know they have no clue what's going to go on that's an interesting little setup first people I guess it's our first year there don't know who's a leak who's a rat can't don't know who you can trust

that's not great gonna have to figure that out hopefully post-draft but it's a first year there. Don't know who's a leak, who's a rat. Don't know who you can trust. That's not great. Gonna have to figure that out, hopefully post-draft. But it's like, what if they are cooking up something fucking massive? And what if it is his old pal, Bill Belichick, saying, I have a quarterback that I don't necessarily want. We're not saying that's what he's saying, but it's

being reported that he has said it in the past, allegedly. For this to happen, this is what Belichick would have to say. I have a quarterback who's good. I don't like him. Last year was kind of uncertain. I didn't like the way the whole thing went. He was on the field doing his thing.

I get it. I hired a defense coordinator to be an offense coordinator. Just do your fucking job. Yep, exactly. All right? So you guys can have him, and we can start back over here, and we can do it. That hit the internet.

People think it's potentially true because it could be true. What are your thoughts on it, and do you think there's any chance of that happening? No, I do not think there is any chance. That would have been electrifying on draft spectacular. Bill's heard that you guys are number four in the division. He's going to do it. Sure.

Maybe there is that thought that, oh, okay, Aaron Rodgers, Josh Allen, Tua. We need to make a massive move to kind of change this up. And taking a rookie quarterback. Maybe we give him a year. He just gets to play. No pressure. Hey, no one's expecting anything out of this team. I could see that side of it.

And then when you think about the Houston side of it, one, Casario's going back to New England after the draft. He came out and said, I can't believe I have to say this. I'm staying. Yes. He did the full. Yeah, he did the Wall Street. And maybe that's why that was the connection now.

Like, oh, well, he's not going back there, but maybe there was conversations. But D'Amico Ryan's, I think, is where it gets interesting because he's coming from Sam Fran. Does he bring that same Shanahan philosophy? Like, hey, we need a good team and then a quarterback that can basically just put them. And does it matter? What is his relationship with Casario? Yes. Because Pac-Man, that's a whole other conversation.

Like, how much does the coach have to say in who's getting drafted? Because we all know situations where coaches are, I don't want to say blindsided. Yes. Because Pac-Man, that's a whole other conversation. How much does the coach have to say in who's getting drafted? Because we all know situations where coaches are, I don't want to say blindsided, but coaches have an idea of who's going to get drafted, what's going to get drafted. And then the front office scouts, GM, they decide to draft somebody different. Niners last year. Or two years ago. Allegedly.

Confirmed. Michael Lombardi had an article about it. Yeah, but that's still, is that from Shanahan? I wasn't sure where he got it from, but he said that finally they acknowledged the fact that they were going to take Mac Jones instead of Trey Lance until the last second. Interesting. Well, anyways, those types of situations do happen where coaches

and GMs aren't on the same page. I wonder if D'Amico, when he set it up, was like, hey, I'd like to have some say in this. How do you think that goes? Do you think D'Amico has say, first-year head coach? I do think D'Amico has say he set it up, was like, hey, I'd like to have some say in this. How do you think that goes? Do you think D'Amico has say, first-year head coach? I do think D'Amico has say from all the stuff that he's been through. I don't think he would take the job without say. Of course, he's going to be sitting in there.

But I think the GM has the last say-so. Two votes. Yeah. So he has two. And, of course, the head coach is like, hey, look, I need a quarterback. I want a guy that I think I can mow to be the leader of the team. But it ultimately comes back on the GM. The GM is the guy that put the team together.

And some GMs don't really listen fully to the coach, and some of them do. Like I know Jerry and his head and all the GMs over there, they have a big say-so of who's coming. Head coach, you can tell us who you like, but we're going to pick who the fuck you want. Jerry's going to do it. Well, Jerry actually said there's a video we have of Jerry talking about the draft to this exact topic.

Go ahead. Let's run this thing. Drafting's not our problem. Coaching is. He's going to get everybody. Oh, perfect. I mean, perfect for what we're talking about. But, yes, to your point. Yeah, played. He said it so clear, too. He was absolutely serious about the conversation. He believes that, perfect. I mean, perfect for what we're talking about. But, yes, to your point.

Yeah, play. He said it so clear, too. He was absolutely serious about that conversation. I'm happy everybody laughed, thought that was a joke. We got a great fucking team. We got a great fucking team. I've been drafting them good, too. What the fuck are you doing, coach?

Yeah, we've been trying to figure your position out for a while now. Yeah. Everybody says Jerry can draft a good team. He can build a good stadium. He can build up a great, great organization. I mean, they are top-notch all the way through. Guy just

can't pick out a fucking coach. Can't make it. Guy just can't do it. Can't find... Big Mike's going to get it done this year when he's calling plays. Well, Big Mike said that he knows what Kellen wanted to do. Kellen wanted to run up scorebook and stat book because he wants to be a head coach someday. He wants my job. Okay? I've been there before.

I'm just going to – I know that my defense needs a break every once in a while. So, we're going to run the ball. It's like, we'll see, dude. How come you didn't say that the last couple years? Mike likes to sling that rock too. Yeah. You know, it's like I'll be intrigued to hear how that whole thing works out. But if you win, it's great.

If you don't, it doesn't. And that Cowboys team, every single year, you're down there, right? You're a fan of Cowboys? Yeah, a big fan of Cowboys. We're a quarterback. Well, I shouldn't say a quarterback away. A quarterback has to play good in big moments. That's what I was going to say.

See, that's what happens when you're a Cowboy because you're on prime time every single week. You're on prime time every week. You've got more prime time game than anybody in the NFL. So you're going to get a little bit picked at a little bit more than all the other players. We know it, man. Dak is a good player. But can bit picked at a little bit more than all the other players. We know it, man. Dak is a good player. But can Dak cross the line? He hasn't crossed the line yet.

Like, he's just a guy right now. Hey, I'm very intrigued by that whole show. And I love Dak. Yeah, we've been a very pro-Dak show. Great story. And we're one of the only shows that just doesn't talk about the Cowboys. Like, okay, you guys are good. We'll talk about you.

But the Eagles are in your division. And so we are going to choose to cover for that. Now, we don't necessarily live off of big city ratings. No. So our business decision isn't to do that. Local program. But we're a regional program. Regional program.

Definitely a local program. But whenever we talk about the Cowboys, it's always like, Dak just broke another record. Dak just hung like 51 51 50 or 52 or something like that passing what is the deal why don't they fucking win down there i didn't expect us to talk about the cowboys today but why is that why is dac conversated the way he is it's it's a really good question because um looking at the highlights of the cowboys last year during during little draft prep tony poller is a fucking lightning rod and so is CeeDee Lamb.

Those two are so, so, so good. CeeDee Lamb's this one, right? Yeah, he's that one. Sniff first. Very good. Schmelme, he's a... Double eights. Which down there means a lot. Yeah, you have to be gifted. And then they added Brandon Cooks too. So, Michael Kropka's saying they're running the ball. It's like,

why would you give up two draft picks for a guy that's expensive? Brandon Cooks is another story. How's he as a player? He's been on like five teams. Everybody loves him though. Yeah, but they sayger's saying they're running the ball. It's like, yeah, then why would you give up two draft picks for a guy that's expensive? Brandon Cook's another story. How's he as a player? He's been on like five teams. Everybody loves him, though. Yeah, but they say he's a good dude. I don't know, personally, but they say he's a good dude.

But back to the Dak Prescott thing. Yeah. In the hot moments, in the big plays, I mean, big parts of the game, he done turned the ball over. He's throwing picks at the fucking major part of the game when he's just fucking running the ball. And nine times out of ten, they've been up. They've been up winning these games.

Well, good luck to the Dallas Cowboys. The NFC just got a little bit easier now that old Aaron's out of Green Bay. We assume unless Jordan Love is the next thing. But a lot of the conversation, the deeper football conversation that has happened over the last 24 hours now that the deal has been officially made, has been cool to listen to and cool to be a part of. Aaron is a guy that doesn't turn the ball over ever right so he doesn't

turn the ball over ever really now last year he turned it over 12 times that's crazy that is like really absurd for his standards like he had a season where he had like yeah that's literally six years i think he had like uh of turnovers and that's like something that is abnormal versus everybody else yeah all of his stats if if you just look at the turnovers or the interceptions, his numbers are so much filthier lower than everybody else's. He takes care of the ball. That's because I believe he's so cerebral and he values it and everything like that. But with a great defense and not a lot of turnovers,

turnovers give you terrible field position. So field position can normally lead to other teams points being scored and also your defense kind of being fucked so whenever you're winning and losing and everybody talks about all the turnovers why the turnover is such a massive part of deciding factor it's because the field position normally falls right behind it on turnover as opposed to a calculated one where you're bombing a ball down the field and you're covering it you're gaining 40 yards worth of field position hopefully in the nfl with adults kicking the ball but instead sometimes

you're only gaining like five yards because it's a pick a fumble in the backfield you're losing maybe 10 yards and then all of a sudden that's points for the other team immediately that changes the script of the entire game so that defense over there in New York, I don't know how Zach Wilson has been with turnovers. I don't know how Strebler has been with turnovers. I don't know how Joe Flacco has been with turnovers. I don't know how anybody else that played quarterback over there has been with turnovers. I'm assuming it's

going to get better, and I'm assuming it's only going to make the defense even better, which is their weapon of their team. And then you're bringing in a guy who knows the offense, we're all assuming, because he has a massive fucking brain underneath that hippie skull there it's like i think they're i think they got very fucking good oh yeah from all aspects in a way in which you think about it when i woke up this morning you look at the paper you see the jets you'd say all right they are contenders the last 10 years when you woke up you looked at the paper you seen the jets you

what they do? It doesn't matter. They don't have a chance in hell to make it, but now you see the moves that they done made and how good they was on defense side of the ball with all the younger guys they had on the offensive side of the ball, besides the quarterback, not taking his part and

responsibility in it all. And then you have Aaron Rodgers that come in. Do you feel bad? After the pass game. You responsibility no more man there's a corner in the uh nfl for 14 years who i don't want to say that everybody is a snowflake everybody's different from everybody else exactly there might be some people that have common qualities, but everybody is their own individual. Pac-Man Jones, definitely his own individual. But a lot of qualities, you know, from a corner

or a player that played in the NFL from the defensive side are shared amongst a lot of people. The quarterback fucking up and then not owning it publicly, big message. That's actually like a big shot kind of across the board there. Yeah, you can't do it. You cannot do it. The quarterback get to set the rules like so if the defense is trash you can do it if defense is great by the way can do it is an interesting thing like shouldn't still should

never bury anybody always should put blame on yourself but at quarterback position with good defense asked about defense just common leadership i think people would say, hey, go ahead and wear that one. Go ahead and just take that one and move on to the next question. That's why I think his mom is so pumped, Zach Wilson's that is, that Aaron Rodgers is coming into town to hopefully be a little bit of a mentor. And I think Aaron's going to love that too. Everything we kind of lead on here, it's like, this is going to be a great relationship.

Oh, yeah. It's perfect for all parties. Oh, the Patriots though. What was everybody else saying? Everybody, including you. No, no, relationship. Oh, yeah. It's perfect for all parties. Oh, the Patriots, though. Oh. What was everybody else saying? Everybody, including you. No, no, no. Oh, yeah. Both of you guys were saying the Patriots are going to finish.

Tone and Pack. Pat and Pack. He was saying it, too. This morning, you were so excited about y'all. We might be moving up and get a quarterback. I mean, who wouldn't be excited? If you're going up to get a generational player. Can I just explain do you not like jones guys but yes i do all right that's all i'm saying i'm so happy that y'all was gonna get a quarterback because why wouldn't i be it's in

five more years on a rookie deal you get what all this different cap space next year we still will be in first for cap and you can add other pieces i like like Mac Jones. I've been defending Mac Jones since day one. I bought every single one of his goddamn jerseys. So don't tell me who I like, Pac-Man. Especially when we're, okay. I mean, look, if Mac Jones comes out here and sling it, I swear to God I'm going to send you that box of Mac Jones jerseys and you're going to have to burn it like those Joe Aiden ones.

You'll be burning it probably before the end of the year. I'm either going to get a quarterback. No chance. Let's get away from whether or not Connor was excited to lose Mac Jones or if Connor was excited that Bill Belichick was excited enough to trade up to number two, which is probably something you were thinking. And now let's talk. You'll be able to explain yourself.

It's okay. It's fine. You guys are coming fourth in the division. That's what everybody's saying. I didn't say that. That's what Pat Mayer said. Joining us now is a man who's going to be number one in your heart forever as a college football coach.

We are so thankful that he has joined the college football world because all he has done is become a lightning rod. There's a team out there in the middle of the fucking Rockies that has had one winning season since 2005. Zero fans. And their spring game took place a week ago in the middle of a goddamn blizzard and they had 40 000 people there ladies and gentlemen the needle mover the hall of famer the head coach of the colorado buffalo football team coach prime

hey how you got hey i love the tank dog i the tank top. You know you're one of my favorites, right? Because you are unapologetically you. I appreciate that. And your whole crew is. I love it. And when you brought my son on, it was over. It was a wrap. It was it.

I'm all in. I'm all in with everything. Okay, Coach. Well, we're happy to hear that. And obviously, we got to have Pac here. We are so lucky that he is just within driving distance obviously you know his incredible work ethic and yeah this motherfucker is hilarious pack pac-man is hilarious prime and honest and honest i agree yeah which we need which you have you do a

lot of i think which is kind of the misconception of people that maybe didn't know your coaching style whenever you got the Colorado job? Because the last time we chatted, I told you, I just assumed you were going to be West Virginia's head coach. And then you said, well, the AD at Colorado said, we just want you to be you and everything like that. I think he just did the most research on you. You work your fucking ass off.

You hold people accountable. And you're a hard-ass coach. How has it been since you got to Colorado? And what do you feel like your team has responded well to with your style of coaching over there, Coach? Well, it's been wonderful. I mean, the fan base here is unbelievable. You got to understand, man, to pack this thing, and it was snowing.

Blizzard, yeah. I was thinking about, you know what, let's have it the next day. I know we're going to miss some folks because of the flight arrangements, but it was going to be 60 the next day. Or, you know, let's have it the next day i know we're gonna miss some folks because the flight arrangements but it was going to be 60 the next day or you know let's move it inside i'm in the indoor or whatever have it shoot they came deep and they came strong and they came ready and i was so darn excited it blew my mind like when i ran out there i didn't expect that you know when people say we sold out but you really ain't sold out? It was really sold out.

A lot of tarping in the stadium. A lot of covered seats. These ones aren't for sale for the camera. No, no. This thing was deep. They were in there. They were in that thing, and they were a hype, man. You got to understand, man. I'm getting to live my dream of raising

these young men, and I'm getting to live it coaching my son. You got to understand, man, I'm getting to live my dream of raising these young men and I'm getting to live it coaching my sons. That and my daughter's here playing basketball. My son is doing the videography and the video and the social media. It's a blast. I'm in heaven, man. I'm in heaven. I really am. You beat the game, it sounds like. Hell yeah. It sounds like you beat the game and you you it sounds like you beat the game and you're gonna do incredible there we all assume and the big question now is about the coach prime time out there in colorado is there's 41 dudes in the fucking transfer 41 hold on hold on though so we have a bonus content we have a bonus content clip from season one of Coach Prime on Prime. And this is actual clip from Coach talking to his players the first day he's in the building.

Man-to-man, though, right? This isn't like texting or heard this or email. This is Coach Prime on season one bonus content talking to the Colorado Buffalo football team for the first time man-to-man. Well, my job is to replace every last one of y'all. Your job is to let me not do that. Fourth and one, who in here that we know getting it? Ain't nobody

flinched. He could be in here, but if he don't want to say it, that doesn't mean he ain't a dude. Those of you that we don't run off, we're going to try to make it quick. A couple of y'all already on that going to be gone list. So I hope that's not you. I hope that's not you. I hope that's not you, but the way it look, I can tell who to make it quick. A couple of y'all already on that going to be gone list. So I hope that's not you. I hope that's not you. I hope that's not you. But the way it looks, I can tell who it is.

And I'm just meeting y'all. Hilarious. All of that, very true and hilarious. It seems like now that people are transferring, though, everybody's trying to spin it. Like, oh, is it working? Is it working? This has been the plan all along, I assume. No hard feelings.

You just got to build something there. That's what you were hired to do. Man, you know what's so funny about this? And I'm trying to choose my words because I'm a head coach, and I can't just say what I feel. Usually I do. Respect. But people got to be crazy to think this just happens.

It don't just happen. You make it happen. You know what you want. I don't pull up to a drive. I can't stand people who pull up to a drive through and don't know what they want before I get there. I know what I want. Right. I'm not, I'm not just making this stuff up as we go. We know what we want and I don't concede, man. I don't settle. I know what I want, and I know what I'm going to get.

We don't settle. Okay, so whenever you meet these guys for the first time, and you said in that running back room, hey, when it's fourth and one, we need one, who's going to do it? Nobody flinch. That's how I know nobody. Nobody said nothing. That's how I know the person is not in here.

Yeah. Because the person that is going to get it. Nobody said nothing. Yeah, yeah, because the person's going to go, yeah, yeah. There's going to be a – I'll take it. Nobody says nothing. That's how I know the person is not in here. Because the person that is going to get it. Nobody said nothing. Yeah, yeah. Because the person is going to go, yeah. Yeah, there's going to be a. I'll take it. Nobody says nothing.

We have one-on-ones in practice. Travis and Jimmy is talking junk to the DBs. And nobody's saying nothing back. Hey, we got one-on-one. We got two dog receivers talking junk. And ain't nobody saying nothing back. Oh, my God. You're worried about the

you're a little bit worried about the uh competitive juices on a particular side of the ball or certain positions we need a different type of guy in here because let's let's dive into this a little bit more so that people don't just say oh he wants people that are trash talkers no you want people that care right because these are people that care if they're getting whooped these are people that care what is being said about them. The people that care are probably going to work harder, probably invest a little bit more, probably going to go a little bit harder in different times.

And that's like the people that you're trying to get into your building, I assume. Is that kind of the whole message here? I just want you to compete. I just want you to compete. And give it your best. And work your hardest. You have a dream of taking care of mama or retiring the dad or taking care of the family.

And you're not investing in it the way that you should if that's your dream. I'm not built like that, man. You know, where we come from, you want it. You've got to have it. It's no ifs and buts about it. Your goal and your vision and your desire for what you want. That's the like-minded people that I need. Not only on the football field,

in the whole program. When you've lost this long, there's a spirit of just complacency amongst the building. I don't play that. I don't deal with that.

I'm not complacent. I'm not idle-minded. I'm a mover. I'm a shaker. If I sit still too long, I'm going to fall asleep. I got to move. I got to go get it. That's the way I live.

And I want players of that mindset and that thought process as well. A lot of people talk about they want to go to the pros, but they're not willing to do what it takes to get to that level. And pros, but they're not willing to do what it takes to get to that level. And I want those people that are willing to do what it takes to get to this level. And this ain't just happened. Everybody wants to say they want to be a lion until it comes time to do what lions have to do, I think, is the old poster that's in, like,

every single coach's office that I've ever walked into. How long do you think this is going to take, this whole process to get your people? Because obviously the transfer portal, you have been very open about it. You've been very successful with the Transfer Portal. I believe every time you speak publicly, I think you win people over into the Transfer Portal more for your program. How long, realistically, now where you're at and what you know now, do you think that whole process takes to change a culture and get your people in there?

We already know what we got coming in. Y'all just don't know what we got. Okay, okay, okay, good, good, good. I understand, I understand. Hey, hey, we already know what we got on the way here, baby. They probably at the airport right now.

We already know what we got coming in. They just don't know. There's no way that I could put new furniture in this beautiful home if we don't clean out the old furniture. And that's not a shot. I did not expect that. Hey, it's good furniture.

It's good furniture. Never won any awards for any home goods stuff. It's great furniture. A won any awards for any, like, home good stuff. No, it's great furniture. A lot of people love it, and a lot of people are going to love it, you know. But that's not what we want. That's not what we desire. But the thing about it, I don't want people to think it's just a product on the field. And kids got to realize that we told them often it's possible.

When a whole coaching staff gets terminated who do you think is next yeah that's real life like this real life you don't there's no takeover in business in this business world that is very that's transfer portable wow sorry yeah there's no takeover in this business world that you don't it's not change being made change is being made at every um business opportunity in this country i mean when someone takes over something new of standard they make changes and that's what we're going to do yeah you're going to do that yeah you got to do uh exactly what you said you were going to do because whenever you were saying what you were going to do everybody loved the thought of it now you're executing it and people

some people are like, well, this isn't it. We have faith because all you've done is succeed. This motherfucker played in the World Series, and, I mean, this guy, real deal. Real, real deal in almost everything that you put your mind to. I assume everything you put your mind to. And we respect the hell out of it, pal.

Pac has something for you, Prank. Hey, Pop, you know that big saying which you always say, don't dream while you sleep. Dream while you awake. Two questions I got for you. Will Travis Hunter play both ways? Yes. And what did that gray jersey mean? Is he a specialist?

Well, I ain't got time to be putting him in the white jersey or the black jersey all game long. So we just gonna put him in gray because he's a special list that's who he is he's very special because you know during the game he's just our color but in scrimmaging he's playing defense he's playing offense but he's out there in great he don't have to make the change he's special my second question my second question pop i don't even

think i never asked you this before um between you and both jacks everything i don't even think I've never asked you this before. Between you and Bo Jackson. I've asked you everything. I don't think I've ever asked you this before, though. I've never asked you because I know the answer, but I've never asked you what's your opinion on it. Because someone asked me this today in the office, who's the better athlete, two-division athlete, between you and Bo Jackson? I think I was the better athlete. I think Bo was a physical specimen that was just unbelievable.

Like, Bo was Bo. Ain't nobody trying to see Bo bow was bow ain't nobody's trying to see bow this like ain't nobody's trying to see mac tyson like ain't like let's keep this in mind now if it because i hooped as well so if it wasn't for bow it wouldn't have been no prime bow paved the way to allow these type of things to happen. So I'm forever in debt to Bo. Athletically, Bo was phenomenal. We approached it different. I was a little finesse, and Bo was straight power. Hey, how about the whole one-sport specialist, to get back to that word, that kind of it feels like,

and I don't know, I'm about to have my first child here in the next month or so, so I can't wait to dive into this world and learn. But I've done no research, Coach. I've done no research. I should do more. But I've heard, like, because I played multiple sports, I think every human that I knew that played in the NFL

played multiple sports. And then allegedly there was, like, there has come a time where some coaches or people that are specialists say, you can only play one sport, you shouldn't play other sports. That was a bunch of idiots that couldn't play two sports. Bingo. That's what I think so, too. That was a bunch of idiots that couldn't play two sports. Bingo. That's what I think so too, right?

Well, how can you focus on one if you – No, you want your child to be happy. And like Pac, Pac played several sports. Pac wasn't no joke in basketball, all-state, all this, all that. And see, those are the type of corners I look for. Like when I'm recruiting a corner or I'm studying on a corner, I want a corner that not only can play defensive back really well, I want to make sure he could play basketball.

He could hoop. You know, he could jump. Like if he has explosion, he could jump out the gym. Pack had tremendous explosion. That lets me know he's going to run. If I'm looking at the combine, I could tell by your long jump or your vertical what you're going to run in the 40. That's explosion.

So those are the type of things that we look for when I'm giving you the analysis of what a coach looks for, some people get mad, but it's really that. That's what you're looking for in DBs. Tony has a question for you. Coach, in regards to kind of the NFL draft and being a coach, have you had to yet or have you had to think about yet when a kid comes to you and tells you that he wants to declare for the NFL draft,

but you don't think he's ready for it yet? No, that hasn't happened yet. But I will tell him the truth. I only know honesty. And I'm going to tell him what's best for him, not what's best for me. A lot of coaches say what's best for them because they want the kid to stay another year and help the program. I want what's best for the kid because by that time, I know recruiting him,

where he comes from, the situation he's in, the situation his family's in, and what they need right now. Some people need money right now. They ain't got time to be waiting another year. Thank God there's the NIL. No, no. It ain't even NIL. Let me tell you something about NIL.

NIL is named imaging like this. How many kids really have value to a company in college? It's not NILs. The collectives is what's getting everybody paid. And you know what the collectives are? A group of money raised by boosters to give it to the players. That's what it is.

Not performance-based. No. No incentives at all. No. No, they give to them. They give to them. Yeah. You got to earn it sooner later right yeah the whole the whole conversation though about telling a guy he can't go to the nfl because the coach is secretly just

wanting to get make his team better it's like guy going to the nfl good for your program which i assume is something that you definitely want to become because that's like coach saban hey coach saban his next thing is like hey, hey, this is the blueprint. Kirby Smart, same thing. You want to get to the NFL? You're going to have to battle. I assume that's the same thing you're thinking. That's the same thing.

And the only difference between me and those guys, I actually played in the NFL. Those guys are a heck of a coach. No, no, no, this is not a shot. I love those guys. Those guys, they're on my Mount Rushmore. They're my heroes. I look up to those guys, especially Coach Saban, which I'm going to shoot a commercial with in another month.

Half-lack. Shout-out half-lack. Shout-out half-lack. I can't wait to sit there and glean from him and get the ideas and ideologies about life and coaching from him like I do every commercial. But he is the man. You know.

Yeah, I think you're going to be able to do it. Travis Hunter, I mean, he could go anywhere. Yeah, either way. Come on in McLean, the guy that we got coming to from Florida as well. He's a dog. I can't wait to see him get on the field. Shoot, we got some guys coming in. When the guys – when we release the list of guys that we already got coming in,

then everybody's going to say, okay. When, when? When's it happening? Oh, now I see what he's doing i see now i now i understand there for a moment i was confused but um when's the when's the list coming out soon very soon oh yeah good tease connor has a question for you coach yeah coach with the draft coming up tomorrow what was was your experience like? Because right now we're going through the process of, you know, random guys moving up boards, other guys dropping off,

and also just the media in general kind of bashing certain dudes depending on what they're hearing. Did that happen during your draft? Obviously not to you. We were a little different then. We didn't rely on – and the scouts and teams didn't rely so much on the media and what they said back then. It was you did your homework, you know what you wanted,

you went out and got it. Now the media could sway a whole organization to a kid that may not be him. But the problem is now when that GM makes that decision, his job is on the line in two years. Two years. That has to pan out. Two to three years and he's gone because that's the real lifespan nowadays. There's some kids out there could flat out play.

And you just never know what a team needs are at that point in time. You got a several quarterbacks that I can't wait to see how this falls out. I can't wait to see how it plays out. Cause they're really good. Some of them I ate, but I can't wait to see. If you had to pick one of these quarterbacks, who you like? The kid from Alabama. He's number one. He's a proven winner. He always wins.

I don't give a damn what size he is. I do not care. That kid has shown me none but poise, professionalism, and he's a darn winner. How about two? That would be my number one. How about two? How about two?

The second quarterback, I like the kid from Ohio State. That was everybody's thoughts like three months ago. I like the kid from Ohio State. Now was everybody's thoughts like three months ago. I like the kid from Ohio State. Now it's completely – But this is why. This is why. He's getting criticized and blamed for the lack of success for the former Ohio State quarterbacks.

That has nothing to do with this kid. But just do a long list right now in your mind of the former Ohio State quarterbacks and that list ain't pretty of how they fared in the NFL. Yeah, that can certainly be true. It's not great. It is not a lot. It's not great. Yeah, it's not.

Hey, Ohio State, great school. Hey, great school. Great school. Great school. Proud of everything you guys got going on over there. Coach, the big question with these draft picks, I feel like, is like everybody terms it as do you love ball, but I think that leads to like is this person, once they get paid,

once they get some free time, once they become a professional, are they going to remain motivated? Are they going to remain focused? Are they going to be able to pick up the NFL life also alongside NFL football? Like that seems to be the big question. Now they've got all these S2 cognitive tests is now this new thing that they're taking. We talked to one of the founders, Brandon Alley.

He's a doctor in psychology who was a former athlete who created this test for GMs to take. How do you find out if somebody's a dog or not, Coach? Pen and paper have never distinguished a dog between a dog never a dog between a cat i'm not taking a test to tell me i don't want a kid to take a test to tell me who he is i'm going first of all i got several significant questions you know even though you're talking about how much you love it give me an example give me an example of your love because you gave me example you just You just told me an example. You're getting ready to have a child. You're making preparations from it.

Everything you do right now is channeled towards having that child and preparing for that child and making that child's life as great as possible. Hell, yeah. You're preparing for that. So tell me, you say you love this game. Give me an example of your love. I got time today. you love this game. Give me an example of your love. I got time today. See, that's how I get down in my means with these

young men. I got time today. And if your dream, it's got to be bigger than you. So who is your dream really about? Because we have the propensity to quit on ourselves. We really do. In some heat and some pressure, we'll shut that thing down. If we go out jogging by ourselves, we're going to shut that thing down.

If we jog with a friend, we ain't going to quit on that friend next to us because we got company now. So it's several things that I want to know what constitutes that guy to make sure he's a guy. You can't detect a dog. You can't detect that by conversation. That's by what he does on the field, what he does off the field, how he is in the the field how he is

in community how he is at home and how is he under pressure that's the thing right there prime like under pressure everybody can give answers you know it feels like now everybody's like coached up and some people are poor they coached up poor communicators some people are like poor communicators though so even if they're coached up not gonna be great but the film says absolute player it's like how do you find out when the time comes that the person is going to show up? One of the things that I love about coaching college football is the recruiting aspect. And when I'm sitting on the couch across from the families, when I'm sitting on the couch across from the families and I'm looking at,

you got to understand, guys, I've sat in all three seats. I've been the coach. I'm the coach. I've been the parent and I've been the recruit. So I kind of know what all parties are thinking. And I love the dynamics of it. I love the role that the auntie is playing. I love how the little brother is looking up at the big brother or he's disinterested because it ain't his turn. I love the girlfriend sitting on the couch. I love the mama. And I ask the mama about her life. What's your job schedule, mama? Well, you know, I got to drive an hour

and a half to work every day. Okay, now I look directly at the kid. How do you feel about that? See, these are the type of real things that you can't prepare those. I need to know those right now on the spot. And that tells me a lot about the kid. Forget the film.

The film got you there to me. Now, let's go to the next level because you're recruiting me to see if you want to come to me. I'm recruiting you to see if I want you because this is a certain type of kid I want and I got to have because everybody don't click and mesh with me. I'm old school.

You are. We coach old school. You are old school. Yeah. You are old school. I don't, I don't think that is something that people know because the flash and the, you know, how much hard work goes into it, waking up at 5. He still wakes up at 5. And his day is fucking a full day. I'm trying to tell you like, and I think that's the big part from being a pro and being a coach, that he can relate more than other people.

Because, of course, if you're sitting on the couch and you're talking to Deion, you're playing defensive back, I don't give a fuck what school you're from or where you've been. There's nothing that he can't tell you that's going to open up your eyes and make you see the vision. There ain't nothing that he can't teach you. And the relationship, what they say, your relationship is your network. Yeah, your network is your network.

Yeah, so sitting on the couch talking to these kids, you know you're going to grab them. So the biggest thing I would say, how hard is it for you to turn some of them down? Because I know you can't just say yes to everybody. Yeah, but if they don't have it packed, like if somebody is an I guy walking there, I ain't talking about the team, none. I ain't talking about the scheme, none. All he want to know is what's the NIL

and what's the collective and ask about the scheme or how we do things defensively. I don't want that. I don't want that. I want you to get your bag. I'm a proponent. I want you to get paid. If that's what everybody else is doing,

if that's what we're doing, I want you to be comfortable. I want you to be rich. Let I'm a proponent. I want you to get paid. If that's what everybody else is doing, if that's what we're doing, I want you to be comfortable. I want you to be rich. Let's not get that misconstrued. Because if you're rich, now you don't really want it like that if you're already rich in college. I want you to be comfortable

that everything is taken care of that you may desire, if that's the case. But, shoot, you... This thing, man, is so short-lived. You know, two and a half, three years, it's a wrap. You're going pro. Hey, real quick, though, to Pac's point about, like, all the hard work,

you know, confidence comes from hard work, I believe. Every human I've met that's been great has outworked everybody else, and people forget that that is how the people get to where they are. That's right. Why, like, there's a lot of ex- ex players that are great at what they did on the field that once they coach, they're just like soft. Like they, you know, they're kind of like too nice, too easy, everything like that.

Why do you think you've maintained? That's very profound because this is what happens in a college football. I believe college more so than anything. You get these ADs who interview these guys and these former players or these coaches that are great coordinators, great coordinators, but they're not relational and they don't know how to lead people. Great coordinators, but you got to be a leader of men to be in these certain positions because if you're not,

these kids these days are going to see right through it because now they're exposed to everything because of this. They're exposed to everything. They can find out everything about you. But before you walk into that meeting, they know all your credentials. And they're checking you, making sure. They're looking for you to slip up and do wrong more so than they're looking for you to do right.

But you've got to have a leader of men in front of a group of 115 or 20 or 30 or 40 people in your meeting rooms every morning when you start your morning's meeting you got to be able to be a leader man and if you can't do that you're gonna have a problem you can't just get your brother over there to relate to all the black players or this dude over here to relate to all the caucasian players or the hispanic or the asian player you you got to be a leader of men, period. Hell yeah. You can't separate that stuff. You said 130 guys.

What do you have this morning? Like 15 people in your team meeting? Actually, we're doing exit meetings today. Okay. So exit meetings. So, yeah. Hey, well, congrats. We already had exit meetings.

Congrats. You know what? I told them, this is what the media didn't listen to me. Because I tell everything, and they don't even understand these subtleties that I deliver. Oh, you're saying they're missing stuff. Okay, got it, got it. I like this. I'm a big fan of this.

I said the other day at a press conference, I believe, I said, this is the genesis of Colorado football. The sold-out spring game, national television. You see some guys that are really who they said they were. You see some wonderful things. But right after the Genesis, if you're a Bible guy, what's the next book? Something big and good. Exodus. Just like I thought.

Exodus is big and great, isn't it? Exodus is big and great. Start and finish. Big and bad. Big and great. Isn't it? Exodus is big and great. Start and finish. Big and bad. Big and bad. That's exactly what it is. Coach, every time you speak, I feel like I am learning. I feel like I'm entertained. And I feel like we're incredibly lucky that you stopped by this program

because we know you're very busy. And whenever you talk about an exodus and everything like that, sure. Chris Fowler was running the sideline of the spring football game chris fowler the voice of like tennis uh the obviously football college football prime time on saturday night i believe he's called like every major thing of all time running the sidelines of the colorado spring game calling it on espn wow you think that's happening ever at Colorado? No, I don't,

I don't think so. So congrats to you on the immediate success and the growth of the program. Also congrats on a breaking news. Yep. We are lucky to announce exclusively here. This is an announcement. Let's go.

See, see, first time right here. Season two of Coach Prime has been greenlit by Prime Video. The upcoming season now in production from Smack Productions will follow Coach Prime

as he begins a new chapter in the storied history of Colorado Buffalo's football. Stay tuned for more on Coach Prime and his new team later this year, only on Prime Video. The reason why this is written out, I don't read good, is because this literally came through right before we went live. This is actually breaking news. As a matter of fact, I just got it right before you guys.

Hey, congratulations. That's awesome. That's a big deal. I appreciate it. So we're going to show you everything. That's what I mean when I tell people I keep receipts. It's a camera. It's a camera everywhere. So we're going to show you everything. That's what I mean when I tell people I keep receipts. It's a camera. It's a camera everywhere.

So we're going to show it. Smart marketing, man. They did that drive to survive or what was it? Formula One. Formula One thing, and it just got huge. They do the full swing thing with golf. It gets huge. They put anything on Prime that's documentary-based.

It gets huge. People learning more about your program makes them like it and respect it and appreciate it more. It's only going to do good things for Colorado, which means it's only going to do good things for your entire organization. Congratulations. We appreciate the hell out of you. Thank you, my man.

Hey, I appreciate you. I love you guys. You keep it 100, man. That's why I love you because you keep it 100, and you don't give a darn. I love it. It's got me in some trouble, though, Cody. It's all right, though. Hey, God will never let you get into something that he can't give a darn. I love it. It's got me in some trouble though, Cody. It's alright though. God will never let

you get in something that he can't get you out. Always remember that. Amen. Hey, Exodus, guys. Ladies and gentlemen, Coach Brian. So Exodus is, what is That's the bad one, I believe. Oh, shit. So Genesis,

I thought that was like the seeding, like the birth. I thought we were doing like this was the start. Yeah. Yeah. And then after that, you know, like some of his players, they had to exit. Oh, so he was calling back the 41. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, got it. So that was like a seesaw comparison. As opposed to a birth comparison. There you go. Spring game, Genesis. Okay. Now the fallout of people wanting to transfer is exiting. Oh, okay.

So I thought this was like Genesis is like the beginning. Like, hey, here's the start of like 40,000 people at the spring game, everything like that. Here's the start. So I thought that next chapter was like spring. Get even better. Grow. I keep doing that.

You're saying it was like. A little setback. Pros, cons. You got to get the little negative C's out of here. Exactly. It's keep doing that. You're saying it was like... Little setback. Pros, cons. You gotta get the little negative C's out of here. It's like April showers. You just gotta get the negative things out for you. In Genesis, men commit sins

and are punished, but there's not yet a concrete set of rules for them to live by. In Exodus, people explicitly defy the word of God. Ethical responsibility becomes stronger. So in Genesis, they were like, they were certainly fucking up, but morally, none of them thought

there was even a fuck-up possible. They weren't as bad as Exodus. You know, we, us, you, me, big Exodus, Genesis guys. Yeah, we're big words. I'll tell you what, I didn't know if he was expecting me to fucking answer that question. He was. Was he, dude?

Which I knew an answer wasn't coming. Bro. Because, like, he does speak very well. Like, there was two times, three times. I thought it was over because he's delivering a message. He's letting it sink in. He's just letting that kind of dial in. Think about it. And then I'm like,

okay, do I go now or is he going again? It's tough on Zoom. Yeah, you never know. It's tough on Zoom. Yeah, you never know. It's tough on Zoom. Tough on Zoom. So then once he starts going, all right, I'm out of here. You know, we listen to what we're talking about. With Prime, too, because he'll give a ball. He's the pastor, really.

He knows everything. Yeah, so he's throwing that message, and then he's waiting for everybody to boom, boom, because there's some people that are bobbling it. Yeah, exactly. You need to sit with it for a second. Yeah, and he's like, all right, you got it? Caught up? Cool.

Another one. Yeah. Ste sit with it for a second. Yeah, and he's like, all right, you got it. Caught up. Cool. Another one. Yeah. Stepped on it a couple times. When he asked that question, I'm like, this is one of those pauses. He's just letting, and then he's going to answer, and then it got to a point in my head like, oh, this is uncomfortable. He's looking for an answer from me right now. Wild. How do I get out of this one?

I know nothing about this. But I didn't want to disrespect him because he is a preacher. Felt like we got through it pretty well. We did. I was very wrong. And he was talking about guys coming in. There was kind of like a recruiting alert as the interview was going on that Houston running back, who scored 16 touchdowns as a true freshman in 2021, is pretty much projected, pretty much almost a guarantee to go to Colorado.

So I assume he's got some other guys. He said one person. Was that the person? No, no. The kid from Florida, he said. Another Travis Hunter, he said, is coming. I'm quite sure. He told me the other day that he got 40 or something kids coming in.

I forget how many it was. It's more than 30 or 40 kids. That my sources. My sources. Says that, yeah, he got like 40 kids coming in. And my sources said 10 of them are four and five star. I bet you they're probably better than the 40 that left. Oh, hell yeah.

If I had to guess. So one winning season since 2000. Oh, fuck. We didn't ask about the film. Damn. Because whenever we saw that people were complaining about not getting their practice film, I played football, very lucky to play football from the years like 2003 to 2016.

That's when I played football. That was when I was in football culture. I don't think I've ever heard anybody that would expect their practice film ever to be made outside of the room. To get you recruited. Outside of the building. I never heard that, but that became a story

because like 41 people, I might be wrong, wrong i'm saying and there might have been places that i don't know i've never been in not one organization from college to college 2002 uh retired 2019 i think 18 or whatever it was, 18 or 19, not one time where I've been in a practice when they said, oh, you can have that film. Nobody's giving you they damn film. Yeah, you got an iPad now to watch film. And they turn it off. You leave here,

and you leave with that iPad, boom, I'm going to erase it right now. Like, you don't get no fucking film. So everybody, then somebody can go look at all of the calls. Not just you. There's other things in place that are happening that people could potentially get. But in the world that we're in with how much is already out there, I wonder if that has changed. That's why I'm prefacing this with, like,

I've never been around a situation where it's happened, but it felt like publicly with 41 people in the transfer portal and then one of them saying, like, the coach at CU, doesn't even say his name, didn't even say his name, Coach Prime, won't let me have any of my practice film to send to these coaches to go to another school. So in my head, I was like, oh, I can see how that would happen.

But I do see how that guy's in a situation that's kind of shitty. But if you're getting recruited off of practice film, they might as well just go back to your high school. Yeah, where are you going? Right? Like, you might as well go back. Where's the game highlights from?

To what, your high school highlights? I don't know. We do not know back. Where's the game highlights from? To what? Your high school highlights. I don't know. We do not know the game, though. I'm not a fucking coach. I have no idea. Never will be. Happy Prime is, though. He seems like he's going to be an incredible coach.

Season two, that's breaking news. Literally got put. ZD, ZD baby had it printed out and sent it to me. They just emailed this. Breaking news. Season two. Coach Prime on Prime Video. That's a good relationship.

Coach Prime. Prime. Prime on Prime. Prime on Prime. Match made in heaven. It does Coach Prime. Prime? Prime on Prime. Prime on Prime? Match made in heaven. It does feel like it. Yeah. What else do they have?

We saw they have that, I saw a Twitter account over there. They have a 24-hour. Yeah, they have a nice like eight to eight sports lineup programs. On Prime? Yeah, on Prime Video, I believe. So you go into Prime. I've used Prime to shop on my phone. That's fantastic.

Yeah. That's unbelievable. I mean, it's a game changer. I also just discovered Amazon like two years ago. Me too. Us too, yeah. I think we all kind of just came into the Amazon world, this experience. And there's a reason why Jeff Bezos is on the yachts that he's on

and doing the things that he's doing. And I won't buy the Commanders. I'll buy the Seahawks in 2024 when the owner doesn't have to pay a tax for selling it too soon or whatever to the state of Seattle. It's a $73 million tax that she would have to pay to Washington, I think, with the way everything is kind of built, I think. The owner of the Seahawks currently. Wild. If she was to sell now. Not that she is.

We're just saying this is what was being reported. Until after some spring of 2024. And then that $73 million, if that was the sale, would come to her, I saying this is what was being reported. Until after some spring of 2024, and then that $73 million, if that was the sale, would come to her, I think, is the report. But Bezos is like, no, I'm not going to buy that. I'll buy it. I guess I'll just buy this one. That is who Bezos has become.

It makes sense. That fucker's easy. Oh, yeah, simple. Is it not? And now they're expanding into all the stuff like Prime on Prime and other shows that they're making. That's what I'm saying. How does that work? Is that on there?

Yeah, I believe it's on there under the sports tab for Thursday Night Football. So let's say I want to go buy some J's on Amazon. Yes. Okay? Which is possible. You can do that. Really? Yes.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, because StockX and them are on there. Okay. So it's an up fee, though. You're paying. It costs a little more. There's content on there. Okay. So they're on, it's an up fee though. Like you're paying. Costs a little more. There's content on there too? Yes.

On that app? Mm-hmm. Because you can just search like on that same app. You can just search like, let's say I wanted to rent and I never would, but let's say I wanted to rent Black Adam. So I could just type in. What's your problem? Just because I've already seen it.

So I would just type in. But the way you said it was as if like in a different way. Well, I never rented. Black Adam was a great movie. That's Brother Sh type in. No, but the way you said it was as if, like, in a different way. Well, I never read it. Black Adam was a great movie. That's Brother Shazam. Yeah. It lost hundreds of millions of dollars. But if you type in Black Adam, it'll pop up right there,

and you can, like, rent it. It's basically like an on-demand. On your phone right there? On your phone, yeah. Oh, yeah, Prime Video. I did not know that. Yeah, it's a game changer. And, like, that's, if you were, let's say you had something to do on Thursday

or, you know, next football season, you can watch, you know, Herbie and Al Michaels on there. And Dude Perfect. And Dude, I don't know. And LeBron. I think so. LeBron with the shop when they do that once or twice a year, yes. Although I think that was Matt Ricciardo.

I don't know if LeBron was actually on there. I think LeBron was on there. Wasn't he with Jalen? Oh, yeah, you're right. LeBron was on it. Yeah, I think Jalen was on it. He crushed it, too. Yeah, Foxy was. Of course he did. Yeah, I think Jalen. Oh, yeah, you're right. LeBron was on it. Yeah, I think Jalen was on it. He crushed it, too. Yeah, Foxy was.

Of course he did. Yeah, he was so good. Hell, yeah. I watched him the other night play basketball. Oh, yeah. And, you know, we're in the playoffs right now, so this is LeBron's time for like 20 years straight. Who cares?

He's always here. Always to the finals. That's kind of what he does. Man. In the conversation from the LeBron haters, and I am a NBA casual. I've become a Phoenix Suns fan because I love the fucking city of Phoenix, and that team

has dogs on them. I love watching, I love Kevin Durant as a human. That interview with David Letterman was fantastic. Made me like him even more. I like that he trolls people on Twitter. Like the human that is Kevin Durant, I appreciate because he's not how people would hope that he would be. You know?

Everybody would want him to be just like fucking boring, this guy, just do your basketball and move on. He's not. He's in the streets on Twitter. Yeah, he's the best. He's better than you are. And he's the baddest burner. Yeah, he's outside.

He's high as fuck, too. He is just living. Very good business, man. Massive fan of Kevin Durant. He's on that team. Devin Booker. I mean, God's a dog. He was in a little bit of a beef with Bad Bunny.

You know what I mean? I like Bad Bunny. I'm a big San Benito fan. I love everything he does at WWE. Can't wait to see what happens at WrestleMania Backlash down there in Puerto Rico. But he was beefing with him. And Chris Paul is like one of the best businessmen to ever play sports in the

history. So it's like, I like the Suns as a team. Just because probably going to end up living there. And also the team they have right now, filled with people that I love. Before that, though, I follow LeBron. When he went down to Miami, hey, let's go heat. I learned about the heat. This guy who's been the next one since he's 12 years old, who has somehow been able to live up to the hype, which makes no sense.

Mental toughness will never get talked about. Has he fucked up? Of course. Has he said dumb shit? Of course. Has he done dumb shit? Of course. He's been in the public eye since he's like 13 years old, and he's been able to kind of just maintain this entire thing. So I watched him the other night,

and the haters of LeBron always say, oh, here we go again. They're going to blame LeBron always say, oh, here we go again. They're going to blame LeBron's team for why they weren't able to win. Hey, that's what everybody says. Oh, yeah. Oh, LeBron never has a good enough team, even though, you know, he went down and did the heatles and everything like that.

But at Cleveland, he didn't have a good team around him, allegedly. LeBron, could you know what I say? I say LeBron couldn't win one. There was a four- to five-minute period that I watched that game. LeBron dominated the game. We're talking defensive end, offensive end, driving, having like four people on him, dishing it out to somebody I'd never heard of, and then they would just throw up a brick.

Okay? Then the other way, LeBron gets a swat, dribbles down, spin move shake, three, four people around him. LeBron passes it to somebody wide open. Seemingly in their spot, too, because they looked as if they were in a fucking video game, like they were Ray Allen, elbow, like, locked. Pass hits him, bam, right in hand.

Almost a fucking air ball. It goes back down the other end. LeBron with a steal. He takes on three people, does some weird-ass fucking layup. Another three-minute period. He took over. They had two points. And it was like because every person that he got literally a wide-open shot for

could not make the shot. And in my head, I was like, this team, this team's not good enough for LeBron to win. And then I immediately thought like, oh, no. We are saying the same thing we've said for like 10 years. Austin Reeves comes on the court, and it's a whole different ballgame. Yeah, he's awesome. LeBron's getting out of Austin Reeves comes on the court, and it's a whole different ball game. LeBron's getting out of Austin Reeves' way. Passing the ball to Austin Reeves, ISO, let this guy do whatever he's

got to do, shake it. It's like, if Austin Reeves isn't balling, I guess they're kind of fucked. Is that kind of the case? See, all I heard out of you during that conversation was that again, when the pressure was on, LeBron didn't take the shot, and he was passing it to guys that he knew. You didn't watch the game then, Tony.

He literally sent the game to overtime. He had to win his shot. Evan, you said you fell asleep. Yeah, I saw the highlights, all right? I watched the game, and he also buried a three-quarter length shot to win it. Yeah, that was sweet. Half a second afterwards. The real problem is just like football, who cares if you're not winning the Super Bowl?

They're not going to get past the Suns. No chance. Which is why I let off with that. That's the thing. I ain't going to counter that. I got LeBron going. Nobody even said they would make the fucking playoffs. Let's think about this.

Midway through the fucking season, no, LeBron ain't playing. They got the worst record in the NBA. There's no way they're going to make it. Well, fuck, we made it. And guess what? Nobody thought that the Lakers was going to beat Miami. Guess what? We are 3-1 right now, and we about to send Memphis' ass home.

Well, jaw hurt his hand. Yeah, cool. But if we can get AD, if some kind of way LeBron can have a fucking conversation with AD and tell him to pull his dick out and play with his dick down, we would be A-OK. That's just what we need, man. Hey, we need a little bit more. That's just what we need, man. Hey, we need a little bit more moxie here, AD.

Yeah. A little bit more confidence, pal. He did swat Ja to lead to the game-winning two-second late. Yeah, but he scared me half to death because he was on the fucking sideline, like, playing with his hip. I'm like, bro, you need to get back in the fucking game. Don't try to act like your hip is hurting because we really need you to finish

this up. Hey, I'm on your side. LeBron took two charges. 38 years old. LeBron James. This is like when Sidney Crosby was the instigator for the Penguins, the enforcer for the Penguins, and the only talent on the Penguins. It's like, hey, can't have

your best guy also be the one that's doing all the menacing shit? LeBron took two charges late in that game. Jaws' ass hit him in the face. Jaws' ass hit him in the face while he was taking it straight down. And another one he took, he got caught up. He flat-backed that fucking thing. It's like, that should not be LeBron James doing that.

That is not who should be taking a charge. But he's out there doing it. That's a problem, but it's a good, like you mentioned, it's good that he's doing that, doing that for the team. You know, I used to not be the biggest fan, but he kind of won me over when he invented Taco Tuesday. I thought that was really cool. That was true.

I did say, he said some dumb shit. And Migos. And also, he wanted to sue Coach Saban there for a little bit for the locker room content or the barber chair. Godfather's his favorite movie, but he's never seen it. How do you know that? You don't know that's true? How do you know that?

You don't know that's true? How do we know that all this stuff isn't true? Like, LeBron probably did say that Kobe was going to score 70 points that night. And he did say that Austin Reeves, oh, this guy's going to be something. Yeah, exactly. He did say that. He knew Migos was going to be good. You guys are just writing Mark all over your own forehead. It's a break.

Hey, I like, I'm someone who grew up hating him and then over these last five years it's impossible not to be like, okay, yeah, he's the greatest player ever. Like, you have to respect it. Oh, you say he's better than Jordan? Yeah. Oh, love it. Damn, Conor, we finally agreed on something today.

Finally. For sure better than Jordan. Hell yeah. Wow. Yeah. Not even hedging your bet there and saying two different basketballs, two different eras, nothing. Because that's not even, for me, like the entire story.

It's just like Rodgers and Brady. Brady's the greatest ever, and Rodgers is the best ball thrower ever. Michael Jordan might have been the best player in the finals ever, but LeBron James is the greatest basketball player as a whole ever. I like that. Well, of course you do, Packy. LeBron James! Wearing Jordans.

Yeah. Those are good shoes. Jordans got great shoes. Got Jordan flip-flops on. You have to take those off. Hey. Those are good shoes. Jordans got great shoes. Got Jordan flip-flops on. You have to take those off. Hey, those are nice. Those are nice shoes. Greatest shoes ever.

How come you're not wearing LeBron? Definitely the greatest shoes. How come you're not wearing LeBron? LeBron's shoes are a little tight on my feet. Me too. I got fat feet. I can't wear them. They got great shoes. Shout out to, I think Kevin Durant's shoes are comfy.

Yes, they are. Zion's shoes are... They're like Hocus, right? I probably wouldn't buy a pair of comfy. Yes, they are. Zion's shoes are... They're like Hocus, right? I probably wouldn't buy a pair of those. Because they need a bunch of... I'm just saying, not nothing. Why? Because they're for fat people? No, they're like...

Don't be such a... That's what I thought he was saying. They're like good couch-sitting shoes. Like, you just sit down all day when you're wearing them. Oh, no. I'm just saying, when they designed his shoes, they wasn't designing them for little guys like you. They also weren't designing them to be moved in or anything like that.

Well, yes, they were. You should see the box. They said, Zion, how do you want to be designed? He said, I'm just going to sit in them all day. Let's get to it, bro. You guys make slippers? Zion's going to be back. Yeah, I agree.

Zion did not try to sign up for an Uggs deal for slippers. I wouldn't buy Zion's shoe. He don't play in them enough. I did buy them. He'll absolutely be back. That's how you hurt your knee? The papadias? I'm worried about my papadias.

It's all the way back, I think. But will it go at any moment? We don't know. We will go because we have A.J. Hawk on the air, son. Here we go. And he's down bad right now. Why? Because he wasn't even part of the Instagram?

Not one. That was crazy. Not the post or the story. And I know he's down bad right now. Why? Because he wasn't even part of the Instagram? Not one. That was crazy. Not the post or the story. And I know he's super bummed. In cowboy boots. Oh, no. Fuck. Come on, Pat. Yeah, here we go.

There it is. The boot's at an extra layer. You gotta change your shot. Bang. Because you're higher. Because the boots added like an extra layer. You got to change your shot. Yeah, I got to. Bang. Boom. Yeah. Because you're higher.

Just had to calculate a little bit. Yeah, exactly. Because I hit the top on the first one. It's like, bro, the angle I'm shooting, I'm 6'5 right now. Exactly. Cowboy boots are awesome. You cowboys got to figure it out. What are we going to wear?

We're going to wear these boots and make us six inches taller. What's that for? Just because we can. Perfect. Those are called stilts, not this. Look at their fucking snake skin. Trying to ride a horse. These things are the best.

And they're clean. And they're comfortable. Yeah, they look great. And you can slide and dance very well in flat spaces. Yeah, if you have to. You can boot, scoot, and boogie. All right. Boys, Tan Diggs is here and joining us now, ex-friend of Aaron Rodgers,

a man who's a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion and Ohio champion, A.J. Hall. What's up, dude? What's up? Prime was good. Coach Prime was a great conversation. I believe there's already been some breaking news

since our show with him about some recruits that have maybe flipped from going to one place out of the transfer portal that are now heading to Colorado. So it appears that what he was hinting at is starting to kind of unravel and kind of roll out. They're going to be OK over there. Are you going to be OK over there? What do you mean? With what? The whole world's seen it.

It's in denial. The whole world's seen it. It's in denial. The whole world's seen it. We've all been so lucky to kind of witness this relationship. Oh, I heard Con Man before. Yeah, and Con Man sent a text. It is funny. The people you surround yourself with can skew your perspective at times. No question.

Con Man put something in there. Oh, sorry. I didn't look at Aaron's picture thing yet or whatever and then con says oh hey i didn't look at it before you put that text in there's what i'm saying call me con calling three seconds after it happened and then i was like i didn't think about it and then all of a sudden con's doing this and i got pissed at connor not at aaron i'm like oh this shows you like so con let's just say you have a girlfriend at some point and she says she doesn't mention like hey you didn't mention our six month anniversary from the day we had our first date like you get upset if she doesn't post

hey look aj six months is different you've been friends with this guy allegedly now i guess for 15 20 to those that did not see what happened in our group text message last night, which is what AJ's alluding to, Connor brought to the forefront of the group text last night. Aggressive text to the group text, I thought. What? Aggressive text to the group text. Condolences.

I didn't think so. Just at the moment, you know, a lot of emotions running high. Yeah, I can tell now. Okay, a lot of emotions running high. After Aaron posted on – Was that okay? Is everything alright? With what? Last night there was emotions running high? Can we just talk about the group text please and let everybody know what we're talking about? Last night

Aaron posted publicly a big thank you and how much he loves Green Bay and everything like that. On Instagram you get 10 photos. That's right. Now they fuck with the ratio and the proportionate screw that why do they why don't they fix that just fix it i'd like to post more photos but because of the weird shit that you do from one photo to the next

one i have to all be in the same format like come on bro like duckerberg figure it figure it out there's 10 of those photos aaron posted with teammates and friends and loved ones and big time memories and ex-teammates and everything like that aj was not in there nope okay aj was not in the photo then you look at aaron's ig story that's a kicker you look at aaron's ig story no aj on her another 10 10 10 15 another 10 15 guys and i will say that the only reason why i got to see that is because you sent it in. Because I do not follow him. Because he does not follow me.

So, AJ, seems like our Instagram relationship with this guy may be up in the air. But how happy are you that your friend or ex-friend, if you'd like to address that conversation, is now a New York Jet officially in massive smile this morning when he walked in the building? It was good to see him. Funny to see him walk into the facility for the first time with the Jets hoodie on. But no, out of how Connor, his advice and how he's doing, I'm going to have to disown him as a friend

if he didn't acknowledge me on Instagram, right? Well, I think so. It's a real 2023 thing to do if you want to be like that. This is like the NFL. Whenever somebody erases somebody from their Instagram, it's real. 2023 thing to do if you want to be like that. This is like the NFL. Whenever somebody erases somebody from their Instagram, it's real. That is not what happened. You did not get erased.

You're still on there. Hey, that Kentucky Derby photo where you're holding a thousand cigars and you're putting your hand out like this in between somebody's shoulders for whatever reason, still there. But how do you feel about Aaron? Honestly, that had to be an emotional night, an emotional post, whatever you think. Everybody at Green Bay, the people around the building, her nicknames were in there.

T-Bone, Red, Air, all the people in there. That's an emotional time for him. And then the next morning he has the owner, Woody Johnson, dapping him up when he gets there. He has Robert Sala with a clean, boom, clean pop. Nate Hackett and he see each other for the first time, long time, we would assume, even though he was in Malibu, I guess, 40-some days ago,

with that guy right there, big smile. Welcome to my building. Who's this guy, AJ? You know that guy? I don't know. It's a Jets guy, right? He's like a trainer. Seems like it.

I don't know who he is. But anyways, this has been probably a roller coaster the last 12 hours for Aaron. What are your thoughts on it? I mean, I'm sure he's probably – it's a weird feeling for him. He's been so many years in the same facility, same place, obviously different coaching staffs over the time. He's worked with some different people. But, yeah, like a whole new facility.

How do I get – where's my locker? Where do I take a leak? All of that thing. It's all new to him. He hasn't had that in a long time also has to i feel like he probably feels like he has to prove himself to so many new people too like hey this is how equipment manager is going to ask him like hey what do you like to do how do you go about doing it aaron now is going to explain his day what he likes what he doesn't like what he hates he's probably gonna have to explain why he doesn't like some things

if that that's all happening it's like it's like, I don't want to say, you know, because we had a little Jesus talk in the first hour. Yeah, we did. You know, we had a little Jesus talk in the first hour. Coach Brian, he asked me a question. I got it wrong. Okay. Consider my Bible trivia for today 0 for 1.

Get the next one. Get the next one. But it is a rebirth for Aaron out there. You know, every relationship, every new beginning that could happen like hey anybody you might have had a little indifference with at the building before even though you had a great relationship with them you could start a new literally brand new training staff brand new everybody chef in their brand new coat like it is what a moment man that's like a pretty cool thing I think he's probably enjoying the hell out of he has to and like everything the

Jets have like their facilities are awesome everything about it the players obviously are very welcoming it seems like already but he has a presser at two o'clock doesn't he that's gonna be interesting 39 minutes it'll be on nfo network can't wait to hear what he has to say uh in in the background as soon as you walk in you saw joe namath what's that 1960 1962 before they threw the football right that's a long time ago. What year is that, honestly? What year was that? I don't... Was it the 60s or 70s? I have no idea.

No clue. I know it's in black and white. We should know this. We should know. It was in the 60s. Okay, almost 70s. That's why we were where we were. If he wins over there, he's a king forever. Forever. Forever over there. I can't wait to see Yep. Yeah. Forever. Forever over there.

And I can't wait to see how it goes. Can't wait for the press conference. Joining us now is a man that every time we get to chat to, brings great vibes. He doesn't know this, but there was actually a conversation on two people that we are very fortunate there are people wanted to come on this particular show. Hey, do you want this guy's available to conversate or whatever?

If you like, it's like, oh, we available to conversate or whatever, if you like. It's like, oh, we're a big fan. We like that guy. Never talked to that guy. We got to think, same exact time. Yeah. Who has free time? Charles Davis.

Yeah. And they say, hey, listen, do you want to, what do you want to do? And we said, every single time, CD comes on a program. Everybody's vibes are lifted. And after the show ends, we talk about how great of a fucking guy this guy is. Ladies and gentlemen, he'll be covering the draft on NFL Network. He's an absolute dog in the booth for CBS, an absolute voice of Madden.

Ladies and gentlemen, Charles Davis. How are you, bud? I'm doing great. It's great to talk with you guys again, and let me just get right to it. Joe Namath, mid-1960s drafted can you believe he was not a first round pick with the cardinals i'm just kidding it's the st louis cardinals and it's the new york jets and they and they asked him when he when he when he

signed with the jets there was a big thing about his signing bonus being a pink Cadillac like Elvis had his owners certainly was Sonny Werblin who was like one of the kings of the celebrity owners right he hung with Joe he took him to Broadway the whole deal Joe figured it out very quickly he was made for New York they're like Joe did you get a pink Cadillac for your signing bonus he said nah I gotta he said he said it wasn't pink it was green oh nice Jet green. Oh, nice little promo. It sounds like. Joe Namath, he knew what he was doing, and it was 1969, beating the Colts. And if I'm not mistaken, no MVP votes for any New York Jets since Joe Namath.

Okay. Hey, thank you for all that information, Charles. Aaron is in a prime spot now to fill that void that Jet fans have been feeling since they beat the Colts in that Titanic game. Yeah, we heard you the first time you said they beat the Colts. We could just say they won in that little thing. I get it. You know what I mean? Different city at the time.

Hey, they were Baltimore. Bingo. You know, it's a different deal. Baltimore, Colts, and remember, they were in the NFL then. Yeah. Joe, though, still the guy. Hey, they need something. Joe's the guy.

Joe's the guy. Aaron has a great roster around him, has a great situation to take over an entire city that just so happens to be the biggest market on earth. Good luck to him. Good luck to them. Good luck to the people getting drafted tomorrow night, which we can't wait to chat with you about. So, obviously, everybody at number one says Bryce Young, except for Will Levis to close family and friends,

allegedly via a Redditor, okay? We don't know how true that is. Will might be saying that. Is Will telling the truth? We don't know. But it's assumed that Bryce Young's going there. Then number two is where all the rumors start cooking up, Chuck. So then it's obviously from your draft, mock draft 3.0.

We appreciate you doing that. Yeah. From all your information you have will anderson going down to the houston texans to kind of you know rekindle an alabama relationship with the miko ryans why do you think that and not all the other storylines the patriots are going to trade uh will levis is above cj stroud who cares you're saying will anderson's the guy why do you think that and what happens from there? Chuck?

Pat and A.J., at some point you have to shut it down and make a decision, put it on paper, right? Because we could be chasing the smoke like crazy. We should all be in firefighting school. Working with the masks right now trying to go through the smoke to figure it all out. I just kind of came back to that

and said, okay, if indeed the smoke's true, no quarterback, Tyree Wilson's kind of been the name put there, that his traits are the deal. Last year, Jacksonville took the traits in Trayvon Walker. You remember who went second? It was Aiden Hutchinson. The performance was there. Will Anderson is this year's Aiden Hutchinson,

and Tyree Wilson is this year's Trayvon Walker. So I went with the production from college this time with Nick Casario as the GM, but I'm not going to lie. At 4.47 this morning, I sat up in bed and said, they got to take a quarterback, don't they? Have to. I'm thinking here. Have to.

They got to take a quarterback. But they're not, allegedly. Is that because they're trading? And they're getting Mac Jones as their quarterback? I mean, there's so many stories out there about that number two overall pick. I'm excited to see how it turns out. I think there's a lot of fireworks in store for tomorrow night. Go ahead, AJ.

Charles, what about that number three pick? Do you think the Cardinals are going to listen to Kyler Murray and try to take a tackle there? I think they would like to get the tackle, but not a three, AJ. I think they'd like to get out of three. I think their phone is wide open. How far back? If they can get out of three and move back

and still take the tackle, Parrish Johnson, they would love that. But at the same time, got to have a dance partner. Who are they coming up to get? Is there a quarterback that they absolutely have to have? Would Tennessee really make that kind of move from 11 to 3 as has been rumored does Houston actually bypass it too and make another move with their 12th pick and come back and get a quarterback I don't know but you're right there's so much smoke out there but I don't think they stick at three if if they can't they want to get it. Find a way out. Get someone and get Paris Johnson later because you've seen their roster. They need players.

All right? One good player is terrific. They need a roster full of them. Agreed. And there's a lot of teams that are feeling that way. That's why a lot of people are thinking that there's going to be a lot of trading back. So anytime there's a lot of trading back, that means somebody, you know? Yeah.

All you need is one GM or two GMs to be like, all right, everybody else hates this place. We can go at least find something that we like. There seems to be no definite this at this position, no definite this at this position. Feels like it's scattered across the board. Schrager told us yesterday that he has somebody potentially going to 10 or 25. And if you talk to teams, it's like, yeah,

it could happen because of the way it's kind of scattered. Is that an abnormal thing for this draft versus years past? Or is this standard we just don't know it close enough and we're a bunch of dumbasses? No, you're not dumbasses. This is just abnormal. Chuck, maybe.

This is abnormal because think about your relationship with Aaron. Aaron Rodgers was either going at one and somehow he went at 24. If you're considered to go at one, how do you go at 24? That's abnormal. That's not a year that it happens. That's the same thing happening here. Think about it.

Let's look at running back, Bijan Robinson. There we go. Easily one of the top three players in this draft, if not the top player in this draft. Yet we're trying to figure out who takes the first bite. Listen, when I started to do my mock, I put him at 6th and Detroit first. Then I thought Atlanta at 8th. I've ended up putting him at Philadelphia to 10th.

Yes. And if I were Philadelphia, I would race there and make that happen. That's how they win ballgames. That's their DNA. This guy, look, you can say he's Saquon Barkley in recency. You can say that he's Edger and James. I say he looks like LaDainian Tomlinson in a lot of ways. I would go grab him and never look back.

And last thing, if Will Levis was staying in college, could he get an NIL from Reddit after what happened yesterday? I know, right? Reddit would be a great They got a lot of cake over there. A lot of landscape on the internet. I don't know how much AI they have for sale back, but there is certainly a little bit of cooking over there.

Tone has a question for you, Chuck. Charles, so at the beginning of this thing, a lot of people were saying that Jalen Carter was the best overall player in the draft. And then the off the field stuff happened. And it was like, is he going to even go in the first round or top 15, whatever? It feels like water's kind of found its level here. You have him going at five.

Do you see him potentially even going any lower or higher than that? I don't know about higher, but I could see him going lower. And right now I'm hearing all this. Speaking of smoke, guys, put your mask back on. Seattle, potentially not taking Jalen Carter and thinking cornerback. Think about that now at five. Okay. That could be the next.

That smoke is billowing now. All right? So Jalen Carter doesn't go there. Does Detroit want him at six? Right? Las Vegas at seven? I think Chicago at nine is about where that fits. Matt Ibraflue getting defense going.

Remember, when we started this whole process, he was going to Chicago at one if Chicago doesn't trade out. How funny is it after all these twists and turns, he can still end up in Chicago just going to nine instead of one? It would be crazy because, remember, he wouldn't take any trips outside the top ten, and everybody just assumed he had a safety net of ten with the Eagles. Then Daniel Jeremiah said the same thing you did about the Eagles.

Like, get Bijan Robinson. This guy's a blue chipper every single year. It's just a running back position. It feels like the Eagles are sitting in a very good position. A lot of things have been projected to go their way. And, of course, they've been in the Super Bowl already. So, good for them. They get Jalen Hurts' deal done, too.

They're able to keep Darius Slay. They're going to have options at 10, it sounds like. Good for – hey, good for – they've been through a lot over there in Philadelphia. Good for the Eagles. Pac-Man has a question for you, Chuck. Chuck, my question is about the DBs. I see you have two, I think, going in the first first round i think maybe three will go in the first round um what's your order with the dbs who do you like the best i see how you got them on here but i don't know if you

got them just because of the teams that are picking yeah yeah there's a lot of that christian gonzalez is one of the easiest mover of the cornerback position. But I've got my most trusted defensive back guy tells me, take Witherspoon, Devin Witherspoon. He's the best one. So Devin Witherspoon, Christian Gonzalez, Joey Porter Jr. I'm going to tell you guys, I know he weighs 166, 170. I'm crazy about Emmanuel Forbes from Mississippi State. He has no problem throwing his body around.

He takes the ball away. He goes in the other direction. He's matched up with his best receivers in the SEC for all these years. He doesn't back down from anyone. I think he's in play. Somewhere around 25 with the Giants could be. Then you've got Cincinnati's that's going to take a look at him. This guy's got an opportunity to go in the first round,

even though he looks like a number two pencil right now. Hey, it's all right. He can grow into that. There's protein shakes, right? That's what people take. I think I'm just now, because of how sweet you look. Okay, you look sweet right now. One thing you know, the headset is plug-in, old school.

I look like I'm DJing right now. Yeah, it is. But I didn't even know you were at a World Famous. I started piecing that thing together, the Wheel of Fortune right behind your head there. Got it. Yeah, so Arthur, Brian, go full on there. Yeah, Arthur.

What is it? Arthur Brian's Barbecue, man. World Famous. How was it? What did we get? You just get a bag there, right? How does it work? How does the whole thing?

I'm waiting until the end because we're doing a little media thing here. Until the end because otherwise, you know what the next shot would be. You guys would have it up on the show and it would be funny as heck because i'd be like elbow deep and barbecue sauce dripping and the whole deal and of course a full mouth talking like vince vaughn and wedding crashes when he's knocking down the wedding cake hey good movie that's just what we don't need great movie charles great reference there have you hit up a bunch of the barbecue spots out there? Isn't there a bunch of them? I just got here last night, so there's still time.

I'm ramping up. We're going to start here at Arthur Bryant's. I'm telling you, all of them are going to be taken advantage of, though. Jack Stacks. What? Q39. What? And then I've got to find the neighborhood one, the hole in the wall,

that's not a chain. I've got to find one of those before I get out of here. Somebody tweet Charles Davis a hole-in-the-wall barbecue spot that he can maybe get directly off the grill in somebody's backyard. Family-owned. Hell, yeah. Like Dreamland in Tuscaloosa, Alabama. Hell, yeah.

AJ, your question for Charles. Charles, let's say Bryce Young is going one overall. What kind of rookie season does he have in Carolina? AJ, your question for Charles. Charles, let's say Bryce Young is going one overall. What kind of rookie season does he have in Carolina? I think he has a pretty good one because I like what they've done, AJ, in the offseason, trying to shore up the team. I like where they've gone with EJ Evero as their defensive coordinator and bringing Jeremy Chin back as a producer on defense, not just using him as a high safety.

He'll be all over the place as a hybrid player. I just like the direction of that team. The defense was good anyway. They've got to get it figured out at quarterback. Running game has been taken care of. Miles Sanders has come to town. I just like the moves that they're making, and he is an adult in the room, and he's going to play accordingly, I do believe, right from the word go.

Charles, obviously there's a lot still going around with these QBs, and some guys might fall. Who knows what's going to happen at the top five. Do you think that there are teams, kind of like the Vikings, maybe the Saints, who have these later picks that might be thinking about if a Levis or a Richardson drops to 10 or 11? Do you think teams, even though they already have a quarterback on a contract that they'll trade up to try and get their qb of the future i think if they get in range it would

definitely be considered because i think what you're saying is right on point remember throughout this process of all the mocking and speculating that we're doing how many times did you see will levis's name in minnesota 23 how How many times has he signed Minnesota for 23? Recent days, we've seen New Orleans gain a little momentum, even though they signed Derek Carr. Some other people are saying maybe another quarterback for the future. I think they have to be in range, though.

The wild card for me is Washington at 16. I know people are saying Ron Rivera has to win now, new ownership. He's trying to win now with a quarterback who's played one game in Sam Howell so how is that not much different if he goes against a quarterback for the future what if it's a hooker what if it's a Levis who knows so I think Washington could be a wild card we just saw Hendon Hooker post a video of him doing his first drop back uh since his

surgery he's unbelievable I got to learn a lot about him this past year on college game day. We went to two Tennessee games. I'm a massive fan of his. I can't wait to see if a team takes a shot after an ACL surgery. It's 2023. Technology's good enough. Here he is. Look at that.

Boom. Dime. Perfect. He's ahead of schedule, guys. I think he's ahead of schedule. This is not a redshirt year coming up for him with the knee. But he's going to be ready to play sooner rather than later. And I have to say this.

You guys both play. I don't see a 25-year-old quarterback who's a rookie going into the huddle with a bunch of lone men like you being an issue. I like a 25-year-old coming into my huddle who's maybe ready to play a little more mature because you guys are putting those groceries on the table and feeding families. Hell yeah, I am. You don't have time to wait.

So 25 years old, not a detriment to me when that kid brings the maturity-headed hooker breaks. Dime, let him, no problem. Charles, we can't wait to watch you on TV, brother. You're the best. We appreciate you calling us from Arthur Bryant's world famous Ka-ba-val-o. You know what I mean? Two of them there. We can't thank you enough, ladies and gentlemen, Charles Davis.

Thanks a lot, guys. Great to see you as always. Appreciate it. Hey, what are you getting there? What are you getting? We getting some ribs? We getting burnt ends? Ribs, brisket, burnt ends.

Whatever they bring, I'm rolling up the sleeves and knocking it down. Do you do the plain ass piece of bread too? Why do they do that? What is the? Oh, you're talking about the white bread. Yeah, why have we taken up any space with that? No opportunity. All it's doing is sopping up the sauce, man.

That's all it's doing. Sopping up the sauce. Oh. There you go. You don't want to leave it. You want a clean plate when it's all over, Pat. It's a soup. Got it.

Yes. Got it. Sopping up. We appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, Charles Davis. Yeah. Good job, Charles. Can't say he's got good meat.

Got some of the best in the world, right? Yes. Think about that meat in your mouth over there at Arthur Bryant's. World famous meat in your mouth. So many hole-in-the-wall places you can of the best in the world, right? Yes. Think about that meat in your mouth over there at Arthur Bryant's. It's world famous meat in your mouth. So many hole-in-the-wall places you can go get meat in your mouth too, man. Yeah, plenty. Oh, start taking some calls on the fire engine. How good did you feel with that?

Sitting on it. You felt so good. I mean, you set me up. He mentioned hole-in-the-wall places got me thinking early, and then that's all I could think about. Yeah. Remember at Gold Studio, there was a hole-in-the-wall places. Got me thinking early, and then that's all I could think about. Yeah. Remember at Gold Studio, there was a hole-in-the-wall place right behind you. Yeah.

Put your dong in there. I didn't say that. We know what you're talking about, hole-in-the-wall, Charles. We know what you're talking about. Trying to get that glory barbecue. Gee. I didn't say that. We'll take some phone calls on the 5RG phone line.

How do you think he would have responded to that, by the way? Sorry to cut you off. How would he have responded? Do you think he would have picked up on it hey charles what aj's talking about is a glory hole is that where your head right now charles are you gonna truck stop or wait he's so nice always making jokes such a nice guy there's no reason for us to bring that into his life he's just trying to live a nice good life there's no reason for you to bring your toxicity i didn't that's why i waited till he was off the show.

That was awesome. I haven't seen that in a long time. Is he doing a radio show from there or something? No, this little media thing. This is the media thing. Really? I thought he meant like they were gathering with people from the NFL or something. I don't know. Is he doing a press job? I believe the whole Edifold Network

is in that building and they're just doing random media hits. Call Rap. Can we call Rap? You think Rap's in that place? Has to be. Rap is eating barbecue right now if he's there. Yeah, instead of the barbecue thing, he's just got real thick whiskey in there. He's just shooting it all day. Why are you getting the fucking, why are you so drunk

dude? He's bourbon glazed for sure. He's probably cold heels in the barbecue. Oh yeah. Yeah, smart. He spoons it. Yeah. He spoons it like anything you can get. Does he really like booze that much? Yeah. It's his job. His job

is literally just... Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a guy who's in Kansas City but not with the rest of his teammates at the NFL Network. Ian Rappaport. No barbecue? Why aren't you at the barbecue spot? What's up? Why aren't you at Arthur Bryant's world-famous barbecue? Barbecue is a lunch thing,

but I'm trying to eat a little bit healthier for lunch so I can eat as much as humanly possible for dinner, which I've done the last couple nights. So, having a lighter lunch today. Congratulations. Hey, we're proud of you.

That type of discipline is not something you have displayed in your, you know, career, really. Well, I would say starting this week, it's kind of, you know, it's a new year. So I'm kind of, whatever. Hell yeah. Rebirth. Just like Aaron.

Yeah. Just like the Exodus. Hell yeah. A lot of fun today, Ian. I mean, we've been living in it. Any news? You hear anything? Huh?

What do you want to know? I got all sorts of stuff. You tell us. What would you want to know? I got all sorts of stuff. You tell us. What would you like to know? What have we missed? What have we not talked about that you have, you think? I mean, Aaron Rodgers is about to get interviewed as the Jets' new quarterback. That's kind of cool.

He's going through a physical right now. Two o'clock press conference. Had that, had that, had that. It was Lamar's tweet about it. It was the NFL Network. We had that. AJ, didn't we have that? We do have that, yes.

Yeah, we had that. We had that. Nice. Let's go. Thanks for tuning in. Lamar's on yet? What was Lamar's tweet about? Yeah, D-Hop get traded to Baltimore.

That's why Lamar tweeted. Spongebob? I do not get that sense. I do not think that is correct. If there is something going on there, I do not know it. Come on, Ian. But I – Wait, did he sell the TEG?

Did he sell the entire gym? All of the – Yeah, maybe the entire gym was sold out. That'd be cool. Mark Jackson Entertainment. Anything else? What about Bill Belichick trading up to two, take the Houston Texans spot and give Mac Jones to the Texans?

That would be quite the draft blockbuster uh i don't foresee that happening but anything is possible um i actually need to make a call right now we just wanted to see if you're at arthur bryant's wow he's a good guy not a team player he's not there well he's not eating that's probably their lunch. I assume that's like, hey, we're... Hey, good business. Renting out a place for lunch for their employees. That's good business. You think they rented it out? Maybe.

Very loud. I don't like it. A lot of people there. They could have just been there. You said we'll pick up the tab, give us the... Reimburse. We'll reimburse lunch at Orthomont. No, I'm not saying they didn't pick it up, but they could have easily said, hey, 20 of us go there. We don't have to rent the place out. Let's go to the phones.

Let's go to Dayton, Ohio. Dayton, Ohio. Jay, what's going on, pal? How you doing, fellas? Keep it moving. All right. Sweet. Good.

Just had a quick question for you. Which do you think would be more difficult to predict with on the eve of the draft spectacular, the first round of the NFL draft or an entire March Madness bracket? Wow, Jay, great question. Good proposition. Definitely March Madness being more difficult. With that being said, something's going to happen tomorrow night

that none of us could have ever thought or fathomed, which is March Madness, I guess. That's the madness of March. So I can see how there's comparison. I think that was a good little question there from Jay over there in Ohio. It is. It makes me wonder, do we know anyone in the past that has gotten every pick right in the first round?

Not only players, but the teams and everything. May got like four right, right? Yeah, he got four. Schrager had a lot, but I do think Jay Glazier has gone perfect 32-32. This year is going to have to be the first to go 31-31. Easier this year. Easier this year to predict. Schrager says he has 28 players.

He just doesn't know where. So Schrag's might. Great question, Jay. We appreciate that. Impossible to guess like an A.J. Brown trade, though. How would you ever know that? Yeah, and a Hollywood Brown. Yeah, Hollywood Brown.

Nobody knew that was going to happen. Something's coming tomorrow that's massive. I cannot fucking wait. We'll be live, 735 Eastern Standard Time. Foxy Flick right into basically an interview with Chris Ballard, who's the coach general manager. And then we're off for however long the first round is. There's a lot of shit being set up for it.

We can't wait to celebrate the new draft class of the NFL. So many Hall of Fame hopefuls, so many bust probables. But good luck to them all. Yeah. Good luck to them all. All going to be Hall of Famers. Speaking of good luck, all of them are going to be Hall of Famers. All of them are going to be Hall of Famers.

We talked about it a little bit there with Ian. He had no answer for us. What was up with Lamar Jackson's tweet, do we think? What was going on? What did this mean? I assumed you guys knew what this meant. So it means he's happy, I think. I do believe he is thrilled

is the proper description here. So much so that it's like, you know, not an overwhelming, ridiculous happy. It's just like a genuine joy. Yeah, it's almost like I know something that you don't know. Smile. Because he's like... Oh, smirk. Because he's smirking a little bit.

And that's not actually how SpongeBob's face looks. Normally it's centered out. But in this, his entire face has gone to the roof of his body. You see that? How that... I took that so different. I took that he was so high right there. Okay, maybe. Who's to say? It's possible.

There's a chance Lamar was incredibly hot. Like, maybe. There's a chance. There's a chance Lamar was incredibly hot. Like, yes. After testing? Pac-Man at the beginning of the show two weeks ago. Yeah, bingo. Just gone. And that's why his face was lifted. Makes sense. Once you start piecing some things together. Well, what are the bottles

in the back behind SpongeBob? What are those? He might be drinking dope. He might be drinking dope. Are those bottles or bongs? We don't know. Like a bong. We don drinking dope. He might be drinking dope. Are those bottles or bongs? We don't know. Like a bong. We don't know. He might have been smoking out of some of those things. We never know.

Some people have had to make Gatorade bottles and cut a screen out there. Here's the actual reaction. See? Boom. It's like, what's that? Oh, hell yeah. You know?

He just blew it out. Interesting. And then the emoji is kind of what you also have to look at because the emoji is a much different face than the gif. Yeah, he's blushing. So now are we thinking that he's blushing because he just got an incredibly generous offer from the Ravens? Or did he just get a brand-new jet ski?

Okay. Did. Car. Did Roma say somebody might be landing? Yeah. Oh, you're saying DeHoff. Yeah. Maybe being traded to the Baltimore Ravens.

Oh. That would make a lot more sense if it was something like that, AJ. Is that happening? Should we see that here shortly after the Aaron Rodgers press conference? I don't know. But normally draft day is when this all happens. I do wonder. Or tonight. Okay. Whoa!

Whoa! A lot of stuff happened the night before the draft. Is that punditry there or insider there? No, that's just me saying. Punditry. Yeah, a lot of stuff happened before the draft. Day of draft, though, too, also. Massive cooking. And I was going to get into this. A lot of these

stories that we talked about a little bit have just kind of been put on hold until draft. Now, Aaron just wrapped up yesterday. It is draft week. Draft spectacular week. That's good news that it did that. But, like, maybe the NFL says not a bad idea for our draft day to be just unreal. You know what I mean? In that one per club meeting, they're like, hey, you know, draft day, we've kind of like taken it over.

It's become like a real thing. 20-some million. I think the Warriors the other night had 7.7 million average viewers. That's a playoff game with Steph Curry, Clay Thompson, and everybody in that. The draft, which is a bunch of college kids pretty much that haven't even been in the NFL yet, although they're all massive names, that is drawing huge ratings. The NFL having these splash trades,

that Hollywood Brown trade not being known by anybody happening on draft night, such a good just impact into society as a whole. A trade just happened and nobody's heard of in 2022. How's that happen? Like, I don't want to say they're colluding and saying, hey, let's load up day one of the draft with news. But because draft picks are involved in so much shit,

it kind of ends up being that way. Round one of the NFL draft is fucking electrifying. So sweet. They're doing it right. Moving it to Thursday, primetime, all of that. It absolutely makes sense why they're doing it. And also, same reason, they don't want the number one pick, even if, let's say, they're working on a contract with Bryce Young

and the Carolina Panthers, the league, ESPN, everybody, they don't want that getting out. They don't want that being known before the draft. So let's talk about what led us to this entire conversation, that big news could come out tomorrow from maybe the Baltimore Ravens. There's a follow-up tweet. Odell Beckham Jr., who's a member of the Baltimore Ravens, said, Book him! Huh. Whoa. there's a follow-up tweet. Odell Beckham Jr., who's a member of the Baltimore Ravens, said, Book'em!

What? Huh. Whoa. It means D-Hop, right? We were in this, right? Yeah. Because Book'em is like Book'em a hotel or a house. Yeah. Book'ings show. What if it meant Lamar? What if it meant their book, like going into their books? Okay. Yeah.

Yeah, like Book'ings. Interesting. I mean, we shall see. Something's brewing in Baltimore. Something's brewing in Baltimore. But the next 24 hours, we gotta know, should be electrified. Oh yeah. Tomorrow night takes over too because it's like the first

round of the NHL NBA playoffs still. So, you know, people care but not universally watching one game and the draft feels like draws all people to that one spot. A lot of gumbling over the draft. Tone, there's some real odds-type movements that have been happening. Where are we at right now? Who's where?

Who's what? And what's the big notable ones? I think it's interesting that Tyree Wilson is now the overall favorite to go second, which is kind of surprising to me. That's come up here lately. Number three is actually Will Anderson. CJ Stroud is plus 550 to go number two overall. Hey, how many times has this changed, though, over

the last 48 hours? A billion. Ten. So much. Ten times. From this morning, it changed. It'll continue to change. Yesterday, Levis was the favorite to go number two overall. A couple days ago, Strvis was the favorite to go number two overall. A couple days ago, Stroud was the favorite to go to overall or whatever it was. The thing that jumped out to me this morning was that Levis is minus 1,500,

which for people who don't gamble, say there's like minus 1,500 never happens in a normal game. That would be like the biggest favorite of all time. It's a Harlem Globetrotters versus the Washington Admirals orals or generals it's almost as far as gambling is concerned a guarantee like the books are basically saying that's almost a guarantee that will levis goes in the top five which is still shocking to me because i don't know what was it one week ago that wasn't even being talked about not even one week ago three days ago that wasn't being talked about at all yeah but isn't in this all just them trying to get people to throw money

at different people? It's not because they're hearing things, right? Potentially. I mean, they don't want to lose their ass. So if they hear information, they're certainly going to score it that way. I do. I reached out to a bookmaker who said there was some respected money coming in on Will Levison, top five, number one, number two,

whatever it has to be. But then it could also be them covering their asses where they do have to change the line so they don't get too much liability on one player if it does happen. So they try to deter the market from putting more bets on them. My sources just hit me and said, Bills and KC, my sources said. Sources.

Yeah. Something might happen tomorrow. Well, something definitely going to happen tomorrow. Tonight or tomorrow. Really? My sources. That's for DHOP, I do believe, if we are reading the room right. What's the Lamar stuff?

Yeah, the not Baltimore. What's the book? Is that Lamar's deal? That would make more sense. Or Lamar's getting traded. No. Booker. Yeah, OBJ saying. Or Lamar's getting traded. No. Yeah, OBJ saying, well, Del said see ya. Book a

new quarterback. Oh, he said, book him new. Book him a flight out of town. Oh, out of town. Oh, Sean Payton. You don't think it's coming into town. Yeah. Okay. So that's okay. So Lamar got a deal. That's what sounds like. That's awesome. Good for Lamar. Unless our sources don't know, right?

Because there is a chance that that's the case. Yeah. Because I do believe Aaron was getting coffee when this whole thing went through with the Jets and the Packers. Is that accurate? I guess that's what the word is. Yeah, AJ doesn't know. That's how it all came together.

Yeah, I don't know. And we know that because he was not a part of the Instagram. Yeah, I'm so bummed for him. AJ, he doesn't even follow me, bro. I don't know what I did. So if he doesn't follow you, you can't follow him? Yeah. Oh, that's just out of principle.

That's not like a thing. Yeah. What are you? Okay. Yeah, yeah. What are you? Yeah, of course. If it is the Lamar deal, though,

shout out Jalen Hurst for getting Lamar to not take guaranteed money because he said, guess what? Money's cool, but you're going to win fucking champions. I'm listening to fucking Jalen Hurst. No, they are listening to Jalen, I do believe, because they had to get some comps, not in that particular fashion, but they had to get some comps there to figure out a market that's maybe where Lamar would be.

So the fact that Lamar is able to utilize that as a blueprint comp and a negotiating tool. Like, hey, this has just happened here. This is two different. Now, I could go with Deshaun. Or he could say, hey, fuck you, buddy. Why in the fuck did you do that deal? You think Lamar not happy with Jalen's deal?

I don't know. I'm just assuming. Yeah, we don't know. We honestly have no idea. There is a chance that him and his mom, who's representing him, and I assume there's others in the team that are doing the whole thing, but him just saying, we've been holding out. Why the fuck would you sign this?

Jalen, we've been holding out for this whole thing. Now is the time. You do this. I do this. We get Joe Burrow to do this. We get Herbert to do this. We change football forever. Look, our next deal is going to be guaranteed because of this entire thing and then you just go wandering

in and say give me whatever you want to give 170 some million oh okay i don't know if that's the case that's awesome if that's the way he's looking at it from a business sense uh but also if he ends up with 170 some million dollars hell yeah, we're all very happy for Lamar Jackson. Yeah, and get him to free agency once again before he's 30 years old, basically. Yeah, Connor? Well, and that's like the one because we say like, hey, that's a great comp.

You know, Jalen Hurts, he's been to a Super Bowl. Maybe Lamar can see that. That's probably why he's getting a deal done because Kyler, you know, he probably doesn't see too many comparisons to himself because he's had a lot more because Kyler, you know, he probably doesn't see too many comparisons to himself because he's had a lot more success than him. And, like, even Josh Allen might be a similar contract that he would want. But in a new market, Jalen kind of setting that.

Lamar might be like, okay, fine. Like, Jalen Hurts I can see at least. Let's go to Ontario, Canada on the 5RNG phone line with a guy named Dave. G'day, Dave. Hey. Hey. How's it going, boys? Keep moving.

Keep moving. Love you. Thanks a lot for having me on. You guys are amazing. I just want to say, why does everyone think Zach Wilson is going to be so much better now that he's got Aaron Rodgers when he already had a Super Bowl MVP and Joe Cool

in the building with him. And Joe Cool told him to go fuck himself. Dave, do we know if that's what he said? If Joey Footstep said that to Zach? I'm pretty sure that's what the tweet was saying. I'm pretty sure. Ontario, that's north of New York? Yeah. Toronto? I'm more north of New York? Yeah. That's Toronto?

I'm more north of Detroit for me. Okay. What's all in Ontario? Is Toronto in Ontario? Toronto's in Ontario, right? Yeah. Montreal. Windsor?

I'm two hours from Toronto. Windsor also in Ontario? Yep. Edmonton? I'm an hour from Windsor. An hour north of Windsor. Edmonton's left. Oh. Way out the's left. Oh.

Way out the other side, bud. Hey, pal. Way out on the other side, bud. What's that about? Learn your Canadian geography. Why don't you learn your provinces, dude? They're not states, you fucking imbecile. I know Calgary's on the east coast.

Oh, here we go. So you're next to Winnipeg, eh? I didn't know that. Oh, there's Ottawa. Holy shit. Ontario's huge. That goes from New York to Minnesota? Oh. I didn't know that. Oh, there's Ottawa. Holy shit. Ontario is huge. That goes from New York to Minnesota?

Oh. Too bad you don't have Manitoba. My cousins go on over border pretty quick. What part of Ontario are you? Are you Minnesota, Ontario, or Toronto, Ontario? I'm closer to Toronto, Ontario, right in between Toronto and Windsor. What time? London, Ontario. London, Ontario. He's down there. He's down there. Kingston time? London, Ontario. London, Ontario.

He's down there. Kingston? Oh, good time. No, that's north. Kingston is north of you? What? You bought Big Trout Lake? Z, he's down here.

Keep going down. Down right, Z. Between Toronto and... Oh, there's London. Go left. Go left. Provincial Park. Down left, right there.

Hamilton, London. There it is. Oh, hey. You're basically in the same London. There it is. Oh, hey. You're basically in the same park. Hey, buddy. Oh, the London Knights. Great junior team, Paul. Paul, you go over to Lake Erie.

You guys own half of that. You're a Hamilton Tiger Cod fund? No, I'm Argo's fan. Oh, it's farther away. So did you know that you guys own half of Lake Erie? Do you guys go out there and just say, this is our water? We claim all the lakes to be ours. Whoa.

That's not very Canadian. Lake Michigan. They're not yours. Here is an American. They're not your lake. Michigan's in America. We'll make maple syrup in there. Listen, we don't.

Whoa. You can have Lake Ontario. All right, man. We appreciate you for watching. Is Mississauga like the Mississippi of Canada? Yeah. It probably has a river going through it, I'm sure. Yeah, a bunch of riverboat gambling there.

Where do we hang out at here? Do you find the Toronto Pearson there? Evening. Where's Trudeau live? Where does Trudeau live? Trudeau's up in Ottawa. Ottawa? Where's that at?

That's in Ontario? I believe it's that at? That's in Ontario? I believe it's in Quebec. That's in Ontario. Just north. There it is. Bottom right. Ottawa. Ottawa. Right next to the Algonquin Provincial Park. Bottom right. It's always Quebec. I was close.

There it is. Boom. Right next to Montreal. Hey, they speak English in everywhere but Montreal? Oh, yeah. Do you speak French? Not very well, no. I didn't have to take it in grade nine, thankfully.

I'm a bit dyslexic, so I got a loophole. Okay, well, revoir all. See you later, bro. We appreciate you so much, Dave. Yeah, Davey. Thanks a lot. Have a great day. Well done.

Well done. That's thanks a lot. It was a different language and... And in reverse. Yeah, I felt pretty good about that. That's thanks to the different language and and in reverse. Yeah, I felt pretty good about that. That was next level. Yeah, I mean, I did take French in grade nine. Me too. What was his question? Oh, Dave, we love that guy.

Zach Wilson, how's he going to learn from Aaron? Oh, we don't know, bro. We just assume another good mind, one of the best of all time being around him. Osmosis, he'll pick up something, but nobody's banking on Zach Wilson to have meaningful football next year. Aaron is a Iron Man type player. That's a real deal. A lot of people make fun of him for whatever you want to make fun of him for.

There's a lot of people that have their own thoughts. I believe he is truly just a fucking hippie. He's just a hippie that happens to be incredibly smart and a good football player. He wears that cotton chin strap. The old one strap from 1958. Dude, he takes massive shots. Huge. He takes shots.

He gets back in games. I mean, he's an old-school football player. Dog. And I think that – dog, absolutely. That's why that 65% thing is, like, so interesting because that would be a decision that would have to be made by the Jets and by Aaron Rodgers. If they get to a point in the season where it's like hey this isn't working right which i guess would be the only way it wouldn't go from a two to a one unless something

freak happens there and which never fucking happens throughout his entire career it's like that would be the only way it doesn't go to a one right aj yeah i mean the only time he really missed what significant time, he had that collarbone he broke. He had surgery on that. I don't know how many years ago. I'm not sure even how many games he missed. 18?

Yeah, I don't know. Abnormal. Yeah, that's the only problem. He's going to play 65% of the plays if he stays healthy. That's right. Bingo. And if he stays healthy, they're going to win. If he stays somewhat healthy, he can still miss six games or something

and still get 65%. 2017, it was seven games that he played yeah and then also 2018 maybe last game of the season yeah against the detroit lions yeah he played he played two plays that was a bummer yeah patricia got him yeah there's that sweet play. Yeah, Matt Prater threw a touchdown. Corner of the end zone. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. In Lambeau.

Yeah. Hell yeah. Remember that, AJ? Of course. Yeah, I thought that gave Patricia an extra five years on the staff, I thought. Uh-huh. 30-0 or something. What was the score of that game?

Yeah, it was something like that. It was one of the best games I've ever seen. But that was the same old Lions. We got the new Lions now. Oh, speaking of new, you know about the brand-new Pirates? I didn't think we'd be talking about this right now. But we're about to end an hour, but that was the same old Lions. We got the new Lions now. Oh, speaking of new, you know about the brand new Pirates? I didn't think we'd be talking about this right now, but we're about to end an hour, so that's good. The Pittsburgh Pirates are the brand new Pirates. They are the BNP.

Oi! Oi! Oi! Playing in PNC. Oi! Oi! Oi! Leading the league, just paid a guy. They're fucking Brian Reynolds. What is it, eight years, 108, 110, somewhere around there. Last night they were up 7-2 on the Dodgers.

Let's go, walk in the park. They did end up losing that game, but. What? Well, they got relaxed. They got comfortable. They gave a contract. The boys are boozing. What do you want?

They wouldn't ever even be up 7-2 on the Dodgers before. Largest contract in franchise history. Moral victory. Moral victory. Moral victory. We're celebrating a contract, dude. Baby steps. Baby steps. You know what?

Actually, now I remember reading about this. McCutcheon had bases loaded and he popped out. No, he actually had three RBIs, K. I don't need you saying what you just said, how you said it. That's what happened. Oh, you're talking about Dolphins are three, Dolphins are three, Dolphins are three? That wasn't me saying that.

I was just trying to get him to clarify. That was you saying that. No, it's you. I was talking to Kazim Famouliade, okay? I was trying to get him to clarify what he was saying. Yes. And he said Patriots are four in the AFC East. Kaz is a great guy. I like Kaz. Kaz had a great appearance

in this show. Yeah, he did great. Last phone call here this hour. Do we want to go to the Mississippi of Mississippi? Ooh, Mississippi. Let's go to Kurt in Mississippi on the 500 phone line. Kurt, what's going on, pal? How's it going, guys? Keep it moving.

Nailed it. So I had a question. So how do you guys feel about Taylor Jenkins saying that the Grizzlies are immature and then Ja and Dylan Brooks missing the interviews the last few games? You think they can pull it back around and come back and win? Now, you follow this closer than we do, although we do cover sports, so we heard this. Didn't the team basically say we're too immature around that whole John Morant situation like the day before?

Steven Adams had a players-only meeting, and he was like, hey, we've got to cut out all this shit. We're too mature. Like, hey, our team is too immature. I did not see that. I saw the Kyrie Irving tweet this morning where he was saying that Taylor shouldn't say that in the midst of a playoff run. Okay, so I respect Kyrie going to bat for whoever he thought was offended

at that particular time. But I think what happened was Stephen Adams, the day before John Morant got into all the shit that John Morant got into, and those pictures were released, and that certainly did look like good time. They were having fun. That night, they had a, I assume that was an evening that will go down in the memory books for all of them.

Oh, yeah. Everybody in there is probably talking about that night for a long, long time, just from the one still shot that we saw. Yeah, yeah. The floor was filled. Yeah, and it wasn't lava. So, anyways, I think the day before that,

Steven Adams said, hey, we can't be doing the shit we're doing. We're too immature of a team. We got to tighten up. And then that happens. And then one of the storylines was like, everybody on this roster smacked Steven Adams right in the mouth. No respect for Steven Adams. He said he needed to.

So I think that's just kind of an overwhelming take that they're kind of an immature team. This Dylan Brooks guy, I thought he was going to be it. I thought he was going to be the guy. I loved it. I poked bears. I'm like, that's a great line. How has nobody said that?

Like, what are you, don't poke the bear. He's like, I poke bears. Well, he ain't been poking it hard enough. His ass been quiet these last two weeks. That's what I'm saying. I had so much hope for him. Does his team like him? Does his team like him, though?

That's what I'm trying to figure out. He's like the guy that everybody else hates, but you love my team. I can't figure it out. You know, I don't know, because it seems like he's one of those guys that, in the locker room, that's, I don't know. I don't know how do I put it. He just seems like the police, put it like that. Whoa.

He's one of those guys, you respect him because of the game, but he's not a guy probably that you fuck with. But hold on real quick, though. Follow up on that. I think you can be a guy who's liked in the locker room if you act a certain way or however you act and i'm not saying dylan brooks doesn't act in a fashion that his teammates would love him but you gotta like do well yeah they give him like six wide open threes to start that game right after i poke bears you know yeah and those things every time they bricked off a different side of

the rim so i mean he was trying to find something, and then he avoids the media afterwards. I think that's just like adding to the story. Like, hey, if you poke bears, you talk shit. Like, here we go. You have to. You got to say something. You got to show up, I think. Yeah, and we're noobs.

We're outsiders. I do not know this guy at all. I have no idea what his game normally is. I just saw a heel show up, and I'm like, like that a heel's here. I poke bears is a great bar. That is a great line. That is a great line. That is a great promo. And it's all just kind of boom.

He was talking that shit about LeBron James. Then the next game, LeBron go 20 for 20. And what did LeBron say to him before the game? He said happy birthday to him? Yeah, I think that's what it was. That did seem like LeBron was talking shit. Because then he went and dunked right after. You could tell the whole team came out pissed.

The whole team played awesome. Like, it was – he energized everybody. Yeah, that's the biggest thing. Shout out to him poking the Bears all over. Yeah. Dylan Brooks, he is kind of – he actually said when he was coming into the league, like, I can see myself being like a Draymond Green. Yep.

And he has kind of developed into that type of role. But it's like, dude, we're playing – we're the number two seed. We should obviously be beating the number seven seed. But you've decided to kind of take it upon yourself to piss off LeBron James. And now we're down 3-1. It's like, dude, you kind of screwed us here, Dylan. I will say, though, he was right. He was right.

LeBron ain't never score 40. I bet on him scoring 40 that night. A lot. Still has. A lot. 25 or something. I'm like, bro. Come on him to score 40 that night. Still hasn't. 25 or something. What a W. He doesn't need to. He's got Austin Reeves. He doesn't need to anymore.

Speaking to the media for the first time right now as we speak in New Jersey as a New York Jet. Pretty solid answers thus far. We'll continue to update as it goes through. He seems motivated, AJ. I saw a couple

minutes here during the break. Yeah, he seems to be calm, collected, seems to be enjoying himself. He said, as I came in here, I did see that Lombardi trophy. It looks a little lonely, is what he said. When I asked about expectations, then he asked him about the future years or whatever. He said, I'm focused on this year. I will be here for the duration of the offseason.

Can't wait to meet my new teammates and new coaches and new building. He'll be there for OTAs. There's a lot coming out of this. We will continue to update everybody. Joining us right now is a man that you can see on TNT. What? TBS. What?

Bleacher Report. What? And in the card world, I think he is like one of the— Heavy hitter. Heavy, heavy, high ranker. OG on the internet, a man we've known for a long time, has obviously climbed the ranks of success so effortlessly because of his talent with his tongue.

Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Lefkoe. Yeah, Lefkoe! Lefkoe, we apologize for being a little bit late, bro. This press conference started out of nowhere. We didn't know it was going to take place. It's Aaron, it's the Jets. We had to look at it. It's your BFF in New York.

I just want to say it is so good to hear your voice. I have missed your musk. I have missed your essence. I've missed the look of your armpits. I'm so happy to be back on a program with Zito and Boston Connor and Tyler and Foxy, and I love all of them. Hey, real quick. We all love you.

Just answer my text, Pat. Just answer one text. I say things like I love you. I get nothing. I you, Lefkoe. We all love you. Just answer my text, Pat. Just answer one text. I say things like, I love you. I get nothing. I say congrats on the baby. Yeah, but you got to remember, Lefkoe. I just want an emoji. Lefkoe, when you're texting me, you're texting me at the exact same time that every human that has ever had my number is texting me.

You know what I mean? So I think what happens is, like, you sent me those things I'm very thankful for. I don't even look. And I feel so terrible. But if I look at every one of them, and then I have to pick and choose things. I'm very thankful for. I don't even look and I feel so terrible, but if I look at every one of them and then I have to pick and choose who everybody I'm going to answer. So what's going to happen is I'm going to change my number. You're going to give a new number.

Let's go. We're going to be back to smoking adult cigars. You know what I mean? I'm just proud of you, man. Cause you're smashing people's faces and it's been awesome to watch men. Not AJ's face. Never.

No way. AJ's got that model face, bro. He's got that blue steel. Hey, did you hear what Shaq said? Shaq told him he was like maybe one of the most attractive white boys he's ever seen in his entire life. You get to work with him, you know, every week. Shaq and Chuck are not afraid to compliment a man.

I've seen Chuck up to a man and man, man, you got a beautiful face. And Shaq will look at somebody and be like, hey, you look dangerous. Me and you can't go out. That's how he tells a man that he's attractive. Hey, those are good impressions. Great. Has this always been a thing or since because you hang around them so much over there at TNT with the basketball coverage,

you just kind of picked it up naturally? It's those two and Christopher Walken. That's all I got, Pat. That's all I got. What has it been like over there? Because you used to be an internet guy. We used to see you on internet a lot. You used to do a lot of Bleacher Report.

You and Chris Sims. Chris Sims now on Football Night in America. Then you ended up going Turner into the basketball world. Still see a lot of clips, obviously, because magical stuff happens. But you're crushing it in the network world. Have you enjoyed it? Did you know you were going to do well over there?

And how's the whole gig with the NBA? You'll know this because you've done the transition to TV. You always think there's going to be someone that's like guiding you. I mean, I walked in that first day and they're like, okay, so what do you want to lead with tonight? And so you're either forced right there. I'm either going to be the man or I'm going to let somebody else run this. And it's been a blast. Our first ever show, I didn't sit at the desk with Shaq until 13 seconds before the show started. He looked at me and he goes, Shaq. And I go, Lefkoe. And he goes, are those bullet

holes on your jacket? I go, no, they're flowers. And he goes, dope. Five, four, three. So honestly, man, it's, you know how it is. It's sink or swim and i think uh for me i've just gone in a hundred miles an hour uh when i lived in nebraska it was college football when i lived in louisville it was college basketball for about seven years it was only nfl and now i'm mainly focused on nba but uh when i was on your show years ago when you guys were in new york you called me a workhorse and i just tried to live up to that uh hey that's a massive compliment like that's uh that's kind of how i judge from you it is yeah that's how i judge a lot of people you know what i mean and i think aj is the same way and everybody in here it's like almost uh the first thing i feel like you

should judge before you kind of get going into everything else because that'll tell the story you've always been very very active it's active. It's been awesome to watch. You're a hard worker, bro. Still are. And every chance we get to watch, you're always doing some shenanigans, Lefkoe. Your shoe game. Hey, your shoe game. Fire. Is it better than yours, Pac-Man? I don't know. He got a good one, though.

I got a good shoe game. The fact that Pac-Man even knows about my shoe game is a huge time. They put it on a box and they zoom in on national. What are you talking about? Of course they do. Your shoe game is a part of it. I'm working on, I got some deals brewing.

We got some up to something season on that regard. Congratulations, man. That's not easy to earn, but you've done just that. AJ has something for you, Lefkoe. Lefkoe, we were talking about Dylan Brooks earlier. Obviously a very polarizing figure. Do you know how the rest of his team feels about him? And is he going to be there next year?

That whole team is so hated by everybody else in the NBA. But inside, I do feel like there is a lot of love. I am very appreciative of Dylan Brooks. The thing I've been saying lately, if there was no Joker, the Batman would just be Bruce Wayne chilling at his crib. And because Dylan Brooks opens his mouth, we get to see angry LeBron. We get to see focused AD. I do think though, if you're the Memphis Grizzlies franchise, you have to look at this and go, we've now come in as a one, as a two seat, a top three seed multiple years and nothing to show for it

triple j is going to get paid jama rant is paid you're seeing desmond bain is going to get paid dylan now gets into that weird situation like draymond is where we can't give you all of that money so i don't know if if memphis is going to be able to extend this series i'm thinking the lakers close it out either i would would say probably back in L.A. I have a hard time thinking they're going to win in Memphis up 3-1. But it could be an interesting situation, A.J., going forward, Dylan. Well, especially in the West where the Phoenix Suns are just the Phoenix Suns. I had a chance to have my eyes on them last Thursday night.

4-20 celebration. Suns-Clippers playoff game in the Suns bench. Me and Connor. We were in the Suns bench. It was unbelievable. Yeah. We were in the Suns bench. It was unbelievable. We were gifted the seats. How were the vibes? Vibes were focused.

Vibes were very, very focused. I don't think I've been to an NBA game that close. Normally, kind of a little bit further away. I don't think I've been that close in a long, long time. I guess I've forgotten. That's the best. Yo, every series, every series, they're on defense. They are. Somebody's even open a Yo, every series, every series, they're on defense. They are battling.

Somebody's even open a little bit. They're like, ah! There's like four or five people yelling. That never gets talked about with the NBA. It's like they're banging down there, too. I mean, there is some real – it's a great sport. I sat behind both benches of Celtics' nets last year when KD got closed out in the nets.

The Celtics ended up sweeping them. And that's when I knew Steve Nash was in trouble because I saw him on the sideline, like going nuts. And then I just saw Eme Udoka with Marcus Smart and they were communicating without talking. He was like doing this. And then Smart would like head nod. And then next thing, you know, basket. And to see that kind of stuff up close, I mean, you guys have been on the field, so you know what it's like.

But in basketball, that nonverbal communication, it's a different game that other people don't get to see. Yeah, it's an art in there. It was the amount of everything. That night, I think Devin Booker went for like 40 or 35. Kevin Durant went for 20-some. Chris Paul obviously had a great night. But there was a guy on the Craig.

Is that a name, Torrey? Torrey Craig. Torrey Craig. So Torrey Craig was just kind of posted right in front of us. And I don't know if the distraction was a part of the play or not. Numerous times down, people were pointing at Torrey Craig going, what the fuck is this guy doing? It was kind of like, because

Kevin Durant, I didn't know he was that... They always show him super cool. He's a dog out there. He is an absolute dog. Russell Westbrook had a great night that night, like he has been having. Watching him kind of run, it is. At West, I think he's going to be run through City of the Rising Sun over there, Phoenix, which is absolutely beautiful.

But I love watching it. I'm so impressed with Booker, Pat. So good. Booker, in that series, 37-5-6. And I'm sure you with Booker, Pat. So good. Booker in that series, 37, 5, and 6. And I'm sure you've heard this. A stat line that you look for as a good shooter is 50, 40, 90. 50% from the field, 40 from 3, 90 from free throw. Not a lot of guys have ever done it.

In that series, Booker went 60, 47, 86. It's unbelievable. Now, do they have the depth? they have the depth we'll see but they're taking on denver next series and if i'm on uh your fan duel right if i'm on fan duel uh i don't know if i'm getting any plus money with the suns i'm taking it yeah i love them i just love i love that city too lefkoe that's where i'm gonna end up at i'm gonna end up out there phoenix yeah i think so i think so the wife's got in santa barbara really that's like 67 taxes oh yeah that's right you do you're really thoughtful with your money dude i live in brooklyn yeah the other day i looked at like the money coming out of my paycheck

and i was like what what am I doing? How's this work? How's this work? I fly to Georgia. What are we, what is even going on here? Yeah. And it's a, that game's a wild one. Santa Barbara's beautiful though.

Anywhere down the straw on the beach down there is beautiful place. I was in Burbank last week. Burbank was, I've never been there before. It was beautiful. Yeah. Very active. Pat, I think you're a top, I think you're a top five stream of conscious talker. Thank you.

That's what the show is. The similarity that you have to Shaq and Chuck is that you have a level of intelligence that people underestimate because of how you come off. But no, there are times where, do you have a photographic memory is it like auditory like how do you remember everything especially with the vitamin oh so i just put myself back in the situation that i seen it i don't know if that's how everybody does it so like if when i'm doing something i can be like oh her name was victoria fatu she was at the corner she's a champion uh pianist i think concert pianist She was at the first corner right outside of our hotel. Then we walk over to Bia Bia's for a restaurant,

and then we get this, and then we go to Starbucks, and Dwight was sitting there. Then the guy across the street, I think his name was like Froggy or Fiery or something like that. He showed up. So I just try to relive the moment, if that makes sense. Psycho stuff. That's nuts.

That's cool. Not everything, though. There's some of those people that are, like, photographic memory people. Like, Andrew Luck. Yeah, like, forgetting to respond to text. I get it. No, no, no. That's because I don't want to see it. You know what I mean?

That's why I don't look at this. I don't. I just want to, you know what I mean? Like, hey, I'll just say, everybody, I'll say I appreciate it, too. Which I do send an open thank you to everybody. I try to get that. Obviously, that did not work. I will get back to you closer.

But, like, Andrew Luck, I think everything he sees, he can, like. Locked in. Like, remember. I'm not get that. Obviously, that did not work. I will get back to you closer. But, like, Andrew Luck, I think everything he sees, he can, like, remember. I'm not like that. I, like, consciously got to be like, okay, let's remember this. And let's remember. Yeah, I got a feeling me, Boston, Connor, and Pac are, like, all in the same boat. We're not remembering anything. No. That's just a guess.

What do you think? Pac's a great. No, no, I don't remember too much. Pac's super observant, though. Yeah. That's why Pac is super, super observant. I think that's another thing. What do you think? Packs are great. No, no. I don't remember too much. Packs super observant, though. Yeah. That's why Packs are super, super observant. I think that's another thing, too, you know? I think, I don't know.

Fuck that. I got a bet for you tonight. You want to bet? Sure. Okay. I did some research. Jimmy Butler went crazy. So, of course.

56. Biggest of all time. Congrats. Way to go, Jimmy. See Jordan's kid? Everyone's going to watch. Left go. He See Jordan's kid? Everyone's going to watch. Left go. He's Jordan's kid.

That was the internet. Dude, when you go side to side, it is one of those things where you show it to your friend and you're like, I don't know what we got here. This is going to be interesting. Dude, I was the psycho that when LeBron was going to pass Kareem, I looked it up and I saw, you how they have because since you're you're pregnant you know this there's like a due date calculator yes okay I put in LeBron's birthday and then I put in where when could he have been conceived in the reverse it was the same night that Kareem broke the record for the original scoring record so there was a chance that LeBron was conceived the night that Kareem beat Wilt for the scoring record, which to me was great.

Perfect pregnancy period too, down to the day. They could predict it, obviously. Just happened perfectly for the next one. Anointed king. But my bet tonight that I've already put in on FanDuel, the America's number one sports book, is I looked it up that Jimmy Butler has scored 35 points in a playoff win seven times and played the next game.

His team's record in the next game is one in six, and he averages 22 points per game. So I know we like to be positive. Vibes are strong. I'm liking the under. I'm liking it. jimmy's line is 29 and a half i'm liking the under okay that's good vibe there tone digs just got real excited for what you said i did get real excited for that but in that series if the heat end up beating the bucks in that series is that an all-time upset at least to me it's up there with uh golden state and bar Davis, uh, knocking off Dallas.

I think there's always going to be an asterisk because Giannis isn't playing. I think the thing that stuns me from this heat team is last year, they were the number one, three point shooting team in the league this year, their 27th, but in the playoffs, this team is shooting like 50% from three. Duncan Robinson is shooting 80% from three. They can't miss. Gabe Vincent's shooting 48 in the playoffs. Caleb Martin's shooting 47. Jimmy Butler's shooting 53% from three. And so the betting brain goes, is this sustainable and is it going to dip?

But I have a hard time. I think there's a reason that line's 11 and a half tonight i think milwaukee stomps them and then if it's miami if you don't get it done in miami you have angry yannis but i it's undoubtedly going to be one of the biggest all-time upsets if they pull it off all right jimmy butler under 29. Miami gets smoked. That's what Lefkoe is thinking right now. Now I'm nervous. No, no, no. Hey, this is the game. We're in the batter's box. You know it. This is the way it goes.

There's another pitch coming, bro. There's another basketball game coming that you're going to get 100% right. We're going to take a swing on all of them. Absolutely. You don't have to be Dan Orlovsky now. You know, Dan Orlovsky actually does every single pitch that comes right. He's right-handed, left-handed, over the top, underneath, bunting sometimes. He has to.

That's the day-to-day. But I just want to let you know, I'm thankful for the information he gave us. You're going to make us some money. Pac-Man has a question for you, Lefkoe. Lefkoe, LeBron, 38 years old, just had 20 and 20 and I think what it was, six. Is he arguably not the best player to ever play basketball every everybody says it's Jordan I love Jordan today I've got Jordan's on right now but like LeBron could have went and played in that Jordan era because he's way bigger first of all he can play

one through five but I want to ask you since you get to see it in person and talk about it every day what's your opinion on that like fact not only that this last year since jamal crawford joined our show every night we're having this debate because uh and i don't want to out jamal right now i know that i think he has uh lebron behind kobe and so it gets a very heated debate um we have we've had isaiah thomas in there. We've had a ton of NBA players. Chuck, everybody just argues this all the time. LeBron is undoubtedly, in my opinion, top two. There are plenty of times where I look at the size of LeBron and I realize that he is practically the same size as Karl Malone. And then if you think about what Karl Malone looked like in the 90s and give him LeBron's

skill set, I have to imagine that LeBron would be doing this. I've always thought too that LeBron has been impacted by being raised in the era of Michael Jordan and trying to emulate that. And so I think it's always hard to be seen as bigger than the hero. And's chasing a ghost i agree a lot with my guy nick wright that there are some stats that lebron are undeniable i will say that i think lebron has had a greater career in terms of like longevity um but i think also when you really start looking at who michael jordan beat in those finals the fact that he never took on Hakeem Olajuwon. The fact that it was Malone and Stockton and it was Peyton and Kemp.

You break it down. I go back and forth all the time. And they dribbled like this, Lefkoe. You know what I mean? This is what they did. They literally went, whoa, okay. And it was going higher in his hand somehow.

It was a different sport back then. I mean, it was. Jordan was unbelievable. Jordan would have been great in this era too. Let's not get crazy with how competitive he is, how athletic he is. He would have been great here. I think it's very difficult to kind of do the comparison. It is so hard.

To me, they're the top two, and I don't think LeBron's done yet. If they win and he ends up with five after this year, then it gets super spicy. All right, let's pivot to football a little bit. You have the Bleacher Report draft night. I believe last year, I think it was last year, Jason Kelsey was on with you. They drafted a center, and then he told the story about how he was actually asked to study film

and pick out who he thought could be the guy that would come after him. Obviously, Jason Kelsey's back drinking more beer. That moment, though, fantastic. Have you looked into this draft? I think we got a lot of action coming. Like, I think this draft is going to be electrifying. Lefkoe.

Yeah, this is my 10th draft, which is just staggering to realize I've been doing it this long. That is a long time. We've had cool moments. Hey, let's go. Congrats. Hell yeah. Thank is a long time. We've had cool moments. Let's go. Congrats. Hell yeah. Thank you. Thank you.

I mean, Jason Kelsey reacted to A.J. Brown's trade. That was crazy, too. Philly is awesome. I think this – Philly is awesome. He's in everything. They're saying at 10 he's going to trade. They're saying he's going to trade at 10.

I mean, he's going to be in everything. From what I've heard from some people is if Jalen Carter starts to fall Eagles might make a move on it but I could also see them doing like a Bijan at 10 I could see them even go into Jameer Gibbs later on I'm like you Pat I think for the first time in like we had that 2018 draft where four quarterbacks went the top 10 I don't know how the NFL actually feels about these guys. And usually you can use the quarterbacks to kind of figure out how the draft is going to go. I think that all of these mocks are going to look really dumb come Friday

morning. And I think we're going to get a lot of trades. I don't, I don't think the NFL really likes a bunch of the quality of the top end guys. And I think that people are going to be trying to move out. I think it's going to be chaos. I think your draft show, my draft show, I think it's going to be a fun. I think we got a lot of shit to talk about.

Normally we're just sitting there. Okay. Never heard of that guy. It's going to be good, but I think there's going to be some real shit. Go ahead, AJ. Sorry about that.

What do you think of Anthony Richardson? Where do you, where do you think the latest he goes? My dream is that the Patriots cause chaos and and take him and it's a quarterback battle with him and mac jones um i i think that he's so physically talented that if he gets by minnesota then suddenly we're asking ourselves a lot of questions i they're the last team that truly needs a quarterback i think at that point we're in like Hendon Hookerville. That was an interesting turn of French.

Pretty good though. You should keep that one in the barrel for the draft night for sure. I would love for Atlanta to shock everybody and take him. But I think if there's any chance that he falls out of the top 15, I would be shocked. I don't know who your Colts are going with, Pat. I'm getting a lot of text messages from people that I'm not reading, Lefkoe, but the first couple of lines are,

what have you heard from, and then it starts with C-H-R, and it's for Chris Ballard, obviously. That's what they're saying. And it's like, he's not responding to anything. I've texted him. I texted him while we were out at Nick's bachelor party. I'm like, Chris, let's stop fucking around.

Let's go get Lamar Jackson. Texted him that. Just out of nowhere. And he just texted me back like, ha ha, and then just moves on. No answer at all. Then I'm like, hey, you know what? Let's stop fucking around. Let's get up to number one overall. You know what I mean? And then no answer. And I'm like, hey, you know what? Let's stop fucking around. Let's go up to number two. He had no answer.

He's joining us, though. 7.55 tomorrow night. He's going to have to answer me. You know what I mean? So we're going to have to talk. But I'm in an interesting situation because I'm a Colts fan. I don't want him to give anything up. You know what I mean? You don't want someone jumping them to go to three to Arizona.

Like Tennessee, for instance. The Titans in the division, allegedly, they're thinking about going up to get a quarterback because Tannehill's at 36 million. Malik Willis, obviously not a starter like they thought, even though he had an incredible offseason and gave his jacket to a homeless person. He is a fucking good guy. Man, there's part of me, Pat. There's part of me that's like, if I'm the Colts, like if Tennessee really wants to jump

up there, because I know how you feel aboutennessee and they want to use all that draft capital to get a quarterback when they have nothing around them for that guy to succeed and then if i'm the colts then i'm sitting there i'm going you know what let's just build this team let's just it's a good quarterback next year like let the titans go out there and try and throw a quarterback into that system that would be nonsense. So I think the thing about it is, if you like a guy, which I would assume they've been having to find a guy that they like, even though I've been told there's a chance that not just the Colts, but teams do not have an answer yet some places. Yeah.

Because they're not 100% sure what's going to be available, obviously. But even people that have it kind of scoped out allegedly don't have an answer at this exact moment which is crazy to think of makes no sense but deadlines bring decisions about how we thought about that 2018 draft Darnold Rosen Baker um Lamar and Josh Allen all of them we were like man this is one of the greatest drafts of all time this rivals 1983 and we're sitting here a few years later going, it's Lamar and Josh. And this group, this group, I'm looking at, I'm going, I don't hear anyone feeling super

confident about any of them. Bryce Young, as soon as he's drafted, is the smallest quarterback in the NFL. Whoa! No, I mean, that's a physical measure. Yeah, I know, but that is the only knock on him. Everybody says he is incredible, though. I'm excited to see if he is, but the only knock on him everybody says he is incredible

though i'm excited to see if he is but you're right what you were saying is very valid it is a factual statement but all all of them have huge issues um and i don't know i'm just sitting here thinking about james and williams next year or uh caleb williams from uh usc and i'm like there's one of them i would punt right now and tank, go for that guy. Oh, NBA stuff. Don't be bringing your bullshit into our league. Okay. I know you used to cover the NFL.

Now you're in the NBA. We do not need it. Trust the process. Yeah. Trust the process. But they're saying Drake May and Caleb Williams are the two. It's like, okay, so you got to be the worst two teams in the NFL then? Is that what we're doing?

Like a lot of people are saying. Don't let Lovey improve your draft pick. Well, yeah, that is an interesting thing there at the end. Could have had one last play of the game pretty much. Yikes, that's on them. That is the NFL version of half-baked, of screw you, screw you, screw you, you're

cool, I'm out. Lovey Smith pulled that off. Yeah, well, the Colts benefited from it, I guess. We ended up going to four. So shout out to Lovey, dude. Yeah, screwed them the Colts benefited from it, I guess. Yeah, a little bit. We ended up going to four. So shout out to Lovey, dude. Yeah, screwed them out of Bryce Young. Shout out to Lovey. That's why he got fired.

But Nick Casario allegedly leaving. He's staying. D'Amico hasn't told anybody. Nobody knows what's happening there. And then Reddit said this morning maybe the New England Patriots trade up there and get a new quarterback. Trade Mac Jones to Houston. That's what I'm saying, Lefkoe.

We have no idea. We got no – to your point, we got no idea. Rosen won. Remember, he was definitely going to work out. He had a hot tub in his dorm. Had a hot tub in his dorm and still got drafted top ten. Like that is, you know, they think this guy's going to be a guy. Pretty sweet.

He was a man on fire. Adam, I'm ten years into this draft thing, and every single week of the draft nonsense gets floated around and we start believing the bullshit and not me. Unbelievable. Not me. I don't believe it. And the fact that this is the second time this week,

I've heard a random Reddit person impact our thoughts on the draft. Like they're what, what are their names? Saucer guy for 15. Bowner Garage said that Will Levis had been telling people that he's going to be the number one overall pick. Odds change. I mean, Reddit's been doing it, absolutely crushing it.

This is from automatic. Teams don't ever tell draft prospects something and then do something completely different. I was supposed to be a cowboy. I was actually. Exactly. We're drafting you, and then nobody else told me they were drafting me and then they drafted somebody else and i said oh okay i'm selling sandwiches were you guys fans were you guys fans of teams before you got drafted and was it hard leaving your fandom i've always

been a players fan like a fan of players i did like when the steelers won though because the city was much happier so like enjoyed steelers winning good vibes good times but i like a fan of players. I did like when the Steelers won, though, because the city was much happier. So, like, enjoyed Steelers winning, good vibes, good times, but I was a fan of players like on every single, I like the Vikings because of Randy. Me too. Then you probably put the business part on when you think about it. Like, once you get drafted, all that shit go out your mind.

Like, oh, it was the Cowboys. I'm going to play the Cowboys. No. You drafted me six overall pick. Let's go Tennessee. Yeah, hey, shout out. Atlanta could have drafted you six overall pick. Let's go Tennessee. Yeah, hey, shout out. Atlanta could have drafted you six overall. They could have paid me for my fan. They could have for the rest of my life. They chose not to.

The Indianapolis Colts chose to pay me. They have bought my fandom. You're like that with the Bengals, obviously. AJ, you're like that with the Packers, too. That's why you're so upset today about Aaron and that gang green over there. Hey, let's go, Jack. Absolutely. Are you bummed about it, AJ? About what? Packers too. That's why you're so upset today about Aaron and that gang green over there. Hey, let's go Jack. Absolutely.

Are you bummed about it, AJ? About what? Aaron going to the Jets, leaving the Packers? Real thoughts here. I mean, I think a couple months ago I could have worked my way through that if I was super bummed. But yeah, I would have loved him to stay in Green Bay just like everybody else. How about you, Lefkoe? I think you guys got a haul.

I think the Packers got – I think it ended up – like for the Packers to have zero leverage and to leave with like three top 40 picks, like a pick swap, and then that's going to be a first-round pick next year, I just thought they were going to have to give them away for nothing. I thought so too. Bro, I said the same thing. I thought Guti and Mark Murphy had put themselves in a terrible position

with what they've said publicly and how ugly it has kind of gotten with how Joe Douglas was talking. Now, I think the pick swap, two picks, okay, it's a win. Yeah, but you know what, man? It's certainly a win, but is it? That next year first rounder, wild. I did not think that was happening at all. I did not think that.

The reason I think this pick swap is bigger than people are giving credit, I think there's like four or five offensive tackles, and then there's a huge drop-off. And the thing that no one ever said last year about Aaron Rodgers was like, that was one of the first years where he really had no protection. Like his tackles were hurt. The offensive line was banged up. They kept trying to rotate people.

If they end up going tackle, I think it allows them to skip the patriots who i think are also looking at tackle right now if that's a weapon if not i hope they get jordan love that michael mayer kid from uh notre dame that tight end hey have you seen like he's been doing old spice rounds today he looks like captain america bro he was on college game day uh mic'd up this year he sounded like a president. He sounded like a fucking president whenever he was like, this guy, impressive guy.

Deep at the tight ends, though. There's the numerous, 6'8", 6'7", 6'6 1⁄2". There's a lot of big tight ends out there right now, Lefkoe. Yeah, that Georgia kid is scary, bro. Darnell, yeah, he's a dog. He's a road grader, too. I've never seen a sled get lifted like that by a tight end. Quickly.

I forgot I could curse. That was fucking crazy. Now, some people would say that's bad leverage, but, you know, we don't need to have this. Good point. You know what I mean? But he's 6'7". He can get that low.

That's a guy I would like on my team. Lefto, good luck tomorrow night. Have a great show. Continue to crush it on TNT, and we'll follow along as the NBA continues to cook up, pal you're doing great over there we're proud of you um i'm so proud of you man i think that it's so cool that everyone's realizing your work ethic your talent uh physical and performance i remember interviewing back back in the day and i'm so happy to see him on the show the west virginia connection but uh you you guys have always been so kind to me man i love y'all a lot we do too

we love you too thank you for all those kind words that may or may not be true adam left where his position was valued he'd be the overall number one or number two because he's a rare talent we still think he's going to get drafted really high because everybody seemingly loves him so does verizon who he has partnered with obviously this draft cycle because when he gets the call he wants to have a reliable network behind him ladies and gentlemen bijan robinson what's up dude how you guys doing? Hey, we're great, man. Listen, I want to let you know that we thought this was going 305 Eastern. We have been so excited to chat with you because you seem like, and this is what we've been told, we're very thankful you decided to do our show today.

Want to let you know that. Yeah. Oh, thank you. No, everything that has been said about you is like this guy is the next guy. You're perfect off the field, perfect on the field. You like that, obviously, as you should. And whenever you think about the draft and the way everybody's talking about it, like when nobody likes the running back position anymore,

maybe Philadelphia will take a shot on a running back at 10. What have you heard from teams? Because it feels like you're going to be a guy that's going to go very high tomorrow, and I don't think the outside world knows that that's going to take place. Yeah, I mean, just like you're going to be a guy that's going to go very high tomorrow. And I don't think the outside world knows that that's going to take place. Yeah. I mean, just like you just said, I mean, nobody kind of really knows, you know, where I'm going to, where I'm going to end up. But for me, I just think it's just an opportunity and a blessing, you know,

that God bless you to be here and to be in the room with so many great dudes. But man, I know the running back position is, is the thing that's talked about right now and how you can take a running back and how you can. But, I mean, for me, I just think that it's a blessing to even be in that conversation and for me to just be here, to be in the green room with all those great dudes. I mean, it's pretty cool.

Hell yeah, you've earned it, by the way. Congrats. And you're only getting started. You're only getting started at this point. What have the interviews been like? What are the questions? Because the running back position is being viewed as like a stable position because you're taking too many hits, you might get hurt.

What are the questions that they're asking you about the future? Or are they mostly talking about what they think you can do in the NFL right now? Any teams ask you any questions about like the position running back at all? Yeah, I mean, a lot of the teams are like, you know, it's pretty good that any questions about the position running back at all? Yeah, I mean, a lot of the teams are like, you know, it's pretty good that you're more than a running back. You can do so many things for an offense, whether it's line up at receiver,

line up at slot, and just be an effective mismatch for any defenders. For me, it's pretty cool to hear that because in college, like Coach Sark, that's what he implemented in me, whether it's me going to slot and being just as effective as a receiver, just as I am as a running back. But, I mean, that's what the NFL team see. That's what they keep talking about.

I mean, that's a good thing because it really does add value to the running back position, you know. And, I mean, it's pretty cool to even talk to them and hear like yo you know you can do so many things for for our offense you can do so many things for our team and the city so that's that's where the conversation's kind of kind of been going and it's kind of cool to hear your weapon go ahead aj uh what throughout the combine process and everything speaking to all those teams i guess did you get any any sense from any of these teams do any of them try to give you any information? Like, hey, man, if you're here, don't worry.

You're not going to go fall behind us because we want you. Like, did anyone – you don't have to mention teams, but was anyone specific with you like that? Yeah, no doubt. Yeah, they definitely were, especially like to my agent because they all talked to her. But, yeah, man, I mean, some teams were like, you know, if you're there, then we'll pick you up.

Atlanta? Pretty cool to hear. Philly? Philly? We'll find out. We'll find out. But, no, yeah, yeah. But I feel like just, like, having that, you know, security on a team,

you know, really does want me. They won't pass up on me. I think it's a good thing to know in the back of my head. Hell, yeah. I was picked 222. There's not a lot after that. I thought I was going back to school, Bijan, knowing that somebody's going to draft you because of who you are is a great feeling,

and you should enjoy every moment of this. You've talked about how cool it is just being in those meetings and in that green room and everything. I think you do have a real love for football. I read a story about it, and obviously you do. Yeah, I'm good. You get it. I read a story. your grandpa was a ref

in the big 12 allegedly cleo i believe pac-12 i'm sorry pac-12 and then he would bring programs to you as a kid you would cut the players all out of the program put them on popsicle sticks and like run football games against each other you're talking like diehard football fans since you were a kid is that inaccurate did? Did I read that correctly? That is very much so accurate. It is. Yeah. So, okay.

So when he was in the Pac-10, you know, he was a Pac-10 official for 30 years and then Pac-12 instant replay for 10 years. But when I was younger, like after every single game, you know, he used to get the books and he would bring them. Like, I just like, couldn't wait. So he got into the house and came in. Obviously, like, I was so happy to see him.

But I asked him, I was like, bro, like, I was like, dad, do you have a book? Because, yeah, I would cut out the players and then put them on like, I would cut out like playing cards and kind of like glue them to them and then just like play games like in my head, like imaginary against each other. was just weird how old are you how old are you for that i was uh like five six seven hey now you're going to the nfl bro hey let's go yeah let's go you did it man you should be pretty excited about that connor has a question for you yeah bijan have you reached out or has anybody reached out to you from the nfl whether they're current running backs or former running backs, to kind of give you some advice and give you a lay of the land

or for you to just ask any questions that you have about the league? Yeah, yeah. So, you know, back in Austin, I've been working out with, like, Michael Parsons a lot. And, you know, he's been giving me a lot of advice and what I need to do, what I need to prepare for, you know, whatever team I go to. Just just look at, you know, find a veteran, find find somebody to kind of link with, because that's the most important thing. And for him, that's what he did. He saw, you know, what he needed to do in order to become successful. So just him giving me like those type of tips. And then I talk to Marshall Falk.

I've been talking to him a lot. He's obviously a legend in the game, but he wants to make sure that I'm doing things the right way and just meeting the right people and making sure that I make sure every opportunity is taken the right way. So, yeah, those are two dudes that I've been talking to a lot. It's definitely a blessing to get with those guys. Yeah, navigating the NFL life off the field is also something that I hope you continue to a lot. It's definitely a blessing to get with those guys. Yeah, navigating the NFL life off the field is also something

that I hope you continue to lean on veterans for because you, by all accounts, have a chance to be an absolute superstar in this NFL, and we're lucky to have you, man. At Texas, you're obviously a dog. You were the offense. Talking about you on game day was hilarious. That was a fun thing to do for a bit about you and uh it's it's one of those things that texas brings you you know some cool things tone has a question for you yeah i do i i saw that you're close and good friends with matthew

mcconaughey i also read that you potentially want to be an actor after the nfl have you guys worked on lines together have you read any lines together and how cool is mcconaughey sweet pick oh yeah i mean that dude is amazing, man. I mean, he's such a big brother to me. And even when I go to his house, we just meet as family and chill. You know, we'll do certain things. Matthew McConaughey? Yep.

At his house? You're just chilling at his house? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you guys do? You guys smoke and dole. You guys smoke and dole. do mostly by conversating you know talking a lot uh what are we talking about what are we talking about holy shit take me in there where are we at back porch backyard good view good in the in the light in the middle of the house like good view uh the window the window know, you see all of Westlake out there.

Wow. But we're just talking about life. I mean, talking about, you know, he'll give me, like, snippets of how he became such a – literally, that's it. Just how he became, like, a good actor. But, yeah, man, I mean, he's been supporting me since I was – I mean, since I first stepped foot on campus. And ever since then, our relationship just kept growing and growing. So it's pretty cool.

Was that before or after you got the Lambo deal? Was that what you had the, was it a Lambo deal? Is that the proper one? Yeah. The Lamborghini. Yeah. It was before. It was before.

But yeah, even that deal, like that was, that was cool. Cool as well. I'd say, yeah. You were whipping a Lambo around Austin? Like on weekends. People think I was just driving it, just put my head out the window. But people around Austin, when they see the car, when I'm at the stoplight, they're going to look in the window like, is that him?

So I try to like to drive it like on weekends, you know, like some friends take some friends into it. Okay. So what, so now are you going to have a Lambo for the rest of your, like, what do you think you do for the rest of your life now? Like how do you get a Lambo at the age of 20? How old were you? 21. 21 years old with a Lambo. That's going to be tough. You know what I mean?

Go back to the Toyota. That's going to be tough forever. That's it. So are you with Lambo. That's going to be tough. You know what I mean? That's going to be tough forever. Are you with Lambo forever now, or is this a lifetime deal? Yeah, yeah. As long as I'm playing, you know. Relationships are such a big thing for me, so I've developed such a relationship with all

those guys, and now we're just like family. So now they're like, whatever you need, man. Good business, Bijan. That's good business. So now they're like, whatever you need, man. Wow. Good business, Bijan. That's good business. Pac-Man has a question for you. I read something that Matthew said,

he could run for president. My question to you, do you think he'll be a good president and would you vote for him? I would absolutely vote for him. I mean, the dude is just like so wise in the world and he just like knows what's going on i think he'll be a great president hey i'll definitely i think you're gonna be a great pro pal we appreciate you so much taking time have you been doing interviews just all fucking day two days how long yes sir

yeah yes sir two days sick of it are we the last are we the last one probably not but no i'm not sick of it it's great you enjoy it you enjoy every one of them. I do. I do. Is it take your attention away from tomorrow night? Little anxiety or no, it does. It does. It like calms me down a little bit. We're all in the same element. So like it's fun. Yeah. Cause we're all just telling you how great you are. Yeah, exactly. So that's so good. You are what you are. Is that what everybody else is saying? Do you and Gibbs know each other?

Well, Jameer. Yeah. Yeah, are. Is that what everybody else is saying? Do you and Gibbs know each other well, Jameer? Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, we grew up together. We grew up together. And then our coaches, like my running back coach now was his running back coach last year. So, man, we know each other. Oh, yeah.

It's great. Hell, yeah. Well, good luck out there, man. Enjoy the whole process. You've earned all of this. And if you're a fan of him watching our draft spectacular or watching in person in Kansas City, Verizon has you covered. Verizon 5G now covers more than 200 million people

across the country. Plus, they recently made a bunch of network upgrades in Kansas City, part of one of the biggest network upgrades in the history. Shout out to Verizon. Shout out to you, Bijan. Good luck tomorrow night, pal. Yeah, man, I appreciate you.

We'll see you guys. Yep, ladies and gentlemen, Bijan Rons. Yeah, Bijan. All right, AJ. Yeah, man. I appreciate you. We'll see you guys. Ladies and gentlemen, Bijon Ron. Yeah, Bijon! Alright, AJ. That was good. I like him. Yeah, he's got sweet hair. Good kid. I like him. Very sweet hair. Gave us some answers. Had some non-answers.

It was good. I'd like to buy him a watch. Am I right? Worried about his punctuality? Driving a Lambo forever. Well, if the Lam lambo you know the deal he's in kansas city they got potholes there probably just four seasons those lambos ain't doing you know what i mean i bet he's on a lambo bus someone probably picked him up and dude so sweet he should uh and with those people down there uh we've become a family it's like bijan that's business bro yeah there you you go. You're just a business. That's what that is called there.

He's got a Lambo for the rest of his life. Good on you. And a spot in a bed at McConaughey's. Yeah. Are you freaking kidding me? Hanging out at his house with his kids. Him, Woody Harrelson, and McConaughey. I don't remember exactly where his answer was going,

but as soon as we heard that he was at Matthew McConaughey's house, I mean, everybody in the room was like, excuse me? What? What are we doing? We're just hanging out? So he's not smoking dope, he said there. It doesn't seem like he's. He's too young to even know McConaughey's great movies.

I hope he's gone and watched. Yeah, he just knows Matthew McConaughey is the director of culture at the University of Texas. No, I think McConaughey hands him a movie every time he leaves. What's that? I think McConaughey hands him a movie every time he leaves. I watched this. His days are confused. This is one of my first movies here.

This is The Lincoln Lawyer. This one I got rich. Yeah. What was that one out on the island where he was swimming? You know what I'm talking about. What? Kind of like when W. It was a rom-com.

He was out there in the middle of the water. Oh, with Fool's Gold? The one Bond lady? Yeah, Fool's Gold. That's a top five movie of all time. Only movie available. What women want. That's with Kevin Hart. of all time. Only movie available. What women want. That's with Kevin Hart.

How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days. Oh, that one, yeah. That's the one that you're thinking of. It's good love. Interstellar. Matthew McConaughey's all about that. There's one with Terry Bradshaw, too. What's the Terry Bradshaw movie?

Failure to Launch. There you go. Terry's got his cakes out in that looking at a fish tank. I've seen Terry's cakes on that Bucket List show they did with the guy who did the star Shatner. William? William Shatner, Terry Bradshaw, a young comedian. Feels like he was the idea behind it all. Okay.

Or the driver behind it all. Somebody goes, who's on NBC? Primetime, 730. William Shatner's going through it, right? You saw, oh, wait, what happened to Bill? I saw Terry's cheeks on that, wrapping that conversation up with cheeks. Terry and Matthew McConaughey's movie in on that show. What are you talking about with Bill?

Bill Shatner was one of the guys who went up to space, and he said that it was going to be one of these moments where he kind of like really understood everything about life and how everything out there is great and he said he came back down and it basically ruined his life was this guy on ayahuasca what's going on it felt like he wants to be in space all the time no no the opposite there is nothing out there so the best things are actually here on earth he's terrified he felt the void he felt He felt the emptiness, the cold. Bingo.

Yeah, lonely. Like, do not go up there. Hold on. He went up there and he said it was, like, cold and lonely? Yeah, he was like, don't go up there. Don't go. We can't. Really? Yeah, it's scary.

You call Pat or text Pat. Can't do it. Yeah, don't go to space, dude. Hey, listen. Bill, I just got offered to go to space. What do you think? Don't go. Don't fucking dare. That's why astronauts lose their mind up there. Yeah. Hey, listen. Bill, I just got offered to go to space. What do you think? Don't go. Don't fucking dare.

That's why astronauts lose their mind up there. Yeah. Yeah, bingo. People lose their mind up there? Yeah. Cabin fever. Because you go into like a quiet. He was up there for like 12 minutes.

That's what they'll do. They go up in orbit and come right back down. Oh, he did that thing in North Carolina. You can actually get on a plane in North Carolina. It's called a zero gravity plane. I think it's in North Carolina. I almost did it, obviously. That's sweet. That's why it's kind of popping in my head right now. You got togravity plane. I think it's in North Carolina. I almost did it, obviously. That's sweet.

That's why it's kind of popping in my head right now. You've got to pay a little bit, but it's that padded plane that, like, changes altitude. Yeah. And it has no gravity for, like, six seconds or something. That's sweet. And then you, I think you smack into the wall. It's pretty good. Yeah.

Almost did it. Just strictly you're out of a shit-talking situation to somebody. This is what I like when I'm high. Yeah. You want zero gravity? Exactly. That sounds like not like it yeah that's to pull you down imagine that plane dropping a couple thousand feet though that's not fun i would puke i would puke the whole time i've watched the videos whole time are we down here yet so bill shatner went on uh blue origin which is the uh dong shaped amazon one right he's like 95. He looks great. Look at him give a little peek out the window. You should see him today.

I see my house. Wait, is that him up in? Was it? Nothing to see. What was his quote? Can we find his quote so I can? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That would be great because I want you guys to read it.

It is terrifying. So he went up in the Blue Origin thing, the thing we saw Michael Strahan on. Bingo. Live streamed the entire time. He jumped up out of his seat. Hey, we're here having a good time. Dap ups. We're going back down in Earth. Yes. Did Strahan love it? Strahan on. Bingo. Livestream the entire time. He jumped up out of his seat. Hey, we're here having a good time. Dap ups.

We're going back down into Earth. Yes. Did Strahan love it? Strahan, I think. I didn't even know he went up. Strahan went space, yeah. Was Lazer there? Are you sure?

He was driving. They were dapping each other up. I think so, yeah. I think it was a full dap up. Remember, they looked joyful. Yeah. It didn't sound anything like what Bill Shatner did. I didn't know this is what space did to people.

Yeah, it really did affect him. He mentions it in the article. Should we not read the thing? It seems like you found a quote we should read. No, no, no. I was just thinking about me going to space, and it would be fucking terrible. Well, that's like how we were reacting

whenever Aaron said he wanted to go to the darkness. That too. Every time he... As he was explaining to us what the darkness was when he first brought this into our conversation life, first time hearing it, we had a lot of questions, didn't we, AJ? A lot of questions. We had a lot of questions. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Every time I try to walk myself through a situation, I'm like, you know what? Let me walk through this real quick. I was freaked out within like 20 minutes. Like, all right, I'm not afraid of the dark, but this is too much of it. You know what I mean? Something's a little freaky and I'm stuck in here. Claustrophobic, you're in a hole.

Light can't even get in. Can air get in? You start asking yourself those questions. Terrifying. Is there any dope in here? What am I doing? You know? Like, what am I doing?

One meal a day? I don't know. That's just, it felt like a lot to me, but he enjoyed it. Loved it. Felt like he needed it. He appreciated it. So I got nothing but respect for it. But space, to your point, Tone, every time I've thought about it,

I've thought, this sounds bad. And are we definitely making it back? I've seen a lot of these things crash. I don't like going anywhere without air. I'm cool. I saw a cold, dark, black emptiness. It was unlike any blackness you can see or feel on Earth. It was deep, enveloping, all-encompassing.

It's a bit dramatic. It might be my reading. Remember, I don't all-encompassing it's a bit dramatic i turned back it might be my reading remember i don't always do it justice no i mean i've listened to him speak he's he's he's an actor so he he's very dramatic he was smoking a cig while he wrote i turned back to the light of home i could see the curvature of earth the beige of the desert the white of the clouds and the blue of the clouds, and the blue of the sky. It was life. Nurturing, sustaining life. Mother Earth. Gia. And I was leaving her.

Is that Pangea? What the fuck is that? Gaia? Yeah, I need a definition on Gaia. I'm with it, whatever it is, though. Everything I thought was wrong, everything I had expected to see was wrong. What were your expectations, pal? I thought that going into space would be the ultimate

catharsis of that connection I had been looking for between all living things. That being up there would be the next beautiful step to understanding the harmony of the universe. In the film Contact, when Jodie Foster's character goes to space and looks out into the heavens, she lets out an astonished whisper.

You should have sent a poet. I had a different experience because I discovered that the beauty isn't out there. It's down here with all of us. Leaving that behind made my connection to our tiny planet even more profound. It was among the strongest feelings of grief I've ever

encountered. The contrast between the vicious coldness of space and the warm nurturing of Earth below filled me with overwhelming sadness. Every day we are confronted with the knowledge of further destruction of Earth in our hands. The extinction of animal species of flora and fauna.

This guy's a real deal, man. Hey, he was pissed. Was he good? Guy, it ruined his life. By the way, guy and gay is basically fucking AWOL. Okay. Unobtainiums out there? The universe. Guy has ruined his life. By the way, guy and gay is basically fucking Awa. Okay. Unobtainium's out there? The universe.

Who the fuck thought he was going to go up there and see people up there or something running around? Well, Jodie Foster in that movie said, should have brought a poet. He is a poet. I took that as he's saying, hey, I am that poet. Yeah, he was the one. Hey, my poem's a bit different than Jodie Foster's in a movie that isn't real. That's what he said? It sounds like he's happy. He's different than Jodie Foster's in a movie that isn't real. I am him. That's what he said? It sounds like he's happy.

He's positive. He looked in space and he said, oh, no, all the actions down here on Earth, I better go enjoy that. Yes, for sure. Definitely that. Right? So that's not dark. That means, okay, this is a positive situation. Yeah, but the way he describes sadness, it felt like his heart potentially dropped to the bottom of his stomach for at least a few days, sounds like.

I mean, come on, Bill. You've got to manage your expectations a bit, Bill. What do you're gonna see up he gone to the movie jody foster's movie that's what he thought he said i know you haven't seen that i haven't seen it either but i've seen it she whispered like you know it was pretty dramatic but it was real because we didn't get to see what she was seeing we could only whisper how did it go in the movie though because it was real i remember when i saw the movie it's very like me too it was like kind of a side shot sure can you deliver the line for us we should have brought the poet and then she stomped off towards the camera i got chills recreate that we couldn't see what she was seeing but we could see what she was seeing via her words and her delivery and her

mannerisms and that's the movie contact bro no bro. No spoilers, obviously. Don't want to dive into that. Succession, we will say the guy's dead. Official. This is the movie Contact here. Came out in 2022? Alien Contact? The fact that Bill Shatner watched this movie and sat on it for like 20 years, I need to get up there.

And then as soon as he got an opportunity, he's like, I'm going up to Jodie Foster's movie. Like, what did she see? And then he gets up there. This sucks, he's like, I'm going up to Jodie Foster's movie. Like, what did she see? And then he gets up there. This sucks, dude. This is not what I thought. Where's the Twitter poop emoji? Yeah, send it back.

All right. Good callback. Good callback. And that's the show. You know what I mean? And that's the show. Tomorrow, the Draft Spectacular. We will be live during the day and at night.

Hell yeah. We cannot wait to display the Thunderdome in its full glory. We are utilizing the space. We are exploring the space. We are exploring the space. Because tomorrow night's a big night, isn't it, boys? Yes, sir. A huge night. Hell yeah.

Hammer. Done. Is it about 10 minutes at youtube.com forward slash hammer? Done. And that's Hockey Talk. Going to be on tonight, Nick, or what do we got going on? Yeah, we got some NHL playoffs to talk tonight. Big, big matchups.

A lot of overtime games. Some things to sort through. Some controversies. People are not happy with the officials. Really? Pretty, pretty pissed. What are the refs? All the games.

All right. Well, can't wait to hear it. I love watching that talky talk. Yeah, huge tilt tonight. B is looking to close out. So everyone tune in. Yeah, hopefully they will. Where is it at?

Boston? No. Oh, yeah, it is in Boston. Weren't able to play last night because the Celtics played. Because the Celtics blew it. Just like what's going on in Atlanta right now with Janet Jackson and Trey Young. Ooh, it is in Boston. Weren't able to play last night because the Celtics played. Because the Celtics blew it. Just like what's going on in Atlanta right now with Janet Jackson and Trey Young. Ooh, what are they going to do? They moved Janet Jackson to Friday.

Smart. So Janet Jackson crowd was like, if she's performing, we're going. Okay? So you move this to Friday, no big deal. NBA and Atlanta Hawks are like, we need this on Thursday, Janet. Is that okay? She's like, you're going to have to fucking talk to the people. They did that.

Moved to Friday, so now the State Farm Arena is packed on Thursday and Friday. I've enjoyed the NBA playoffs. I've enjoyed the NHL playoffs. I can't wait for tomorrow. You all are the best people on earth. Big shout out to Dion for stopping by, breaking some news. Charles Davis coming to us live from Arthur Bryant's world-famous

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