The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 894 - NFL Draft Round 1 Recap/Reactions With Kirk Herbstreit, Washington Commanders President Jason Wright, Ian Rapoport, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: April 28, 2023

On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys recap and react to everything that happened during last night’s first round of the NFL Draft, and what we can expect tonight from rounds 2 and 3. Joining the program to chat about his thoughts regarding last night’s first round, which teams he was impressed with, and why we ultimately have no idea about anything that happened is the face of College Football and color commentator for the NFL on Amazon, Kirk Herbstreit (14:13-31:43). Next, the President of the Washington Commanders, Jason Wright joins the show to chat about the potential sale of the franchise, their draft process, putting out fires left and right and how his previous job prepared him for, the potential of a new stadium and if there is any chance of another name change (1:02:55-1:34:19). Lastly, NFL Network Senior Insider, Ian Rapoport joins the show live from Kansas City to chat about last night’s draft results, why Will Levis is sliding so much and where he may end up, only 1 TE being taken in the first round, Lamar Jackson getting his massive deal done, and what to look for in tonight’s 2nd and 3rd rounds (1:52:45-2:20:05). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you Monday, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people. Welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this draft spectacular week. Feel Good Friday, April 28, 2023. The program starts now. Feel Good! Friday, we're having one. This is also a very much overreaction Friday to the first round of the NFL draft that took place last night. That was seven hours in length. Live from Kansas City, Missouri, and we were in the Thunderdome all night. draft that took place last night that was seven hours in length live from kansas city missouri and we were in the thunderdome all night shout out to red panda shout out to red panda coming in and somebody fifty thousand dollars also shout out to somebody who gets the combined weights of

me aq shipley pac-man jones and darius j butler'll be running a video at the first commercial break. And I do believe it'll be a familiar number that comes out. I'm a lot bigger than people think. They're going to learn that as well. I'm thankful and pumped to be back on this Feel Good Friday. There's a lot kicking off. There's a lot of news to chat about. And we're packed with guests. We'll have Kirk Herbstreit joining us in about 12 minutes.

He was in Kansas City last night. Was on a flight home this morning. I believe as soon as he lands, he'sbstreit joining us in about 12 minutes. He was in Kansas City last night, was on a flight home this morning. I believe as soon as he lands, he's going to be joining us. Want to know what the vibes were like in Kansas City. What was the mindset like for the College Game Day crew that I missed mightily and was not able to be with because of the draft spectacular and his thoughts on the draft that it was. 31 players got drafted last night. There's a lot of conversation around a lot of teams.

We were uber positive about pretty much everybody. It was not like that everywhere, from what I've been told. We'll have Jason Wright, obviously the president of the Washington Commanders. He will join us in the second hour. Can't wait to get his thoughts on where the team is, what they're drafting, and also what the future looks like under new ownership. Good for him. And then Ian Rappaport joins us in the third hour. What does he know? Is Will Levis getting drafted? He was minus 1,500 to go in the top five moments before the draft kicked off last night. He is still available. We are

now entering the second round. He was sitting in that green room. So damn sad. Had his lady with him. Had his family with him. And they had a close-up on his face the entire time. Is this guy going to get upset? Is this guy embarrassed? I'd say he was supposed to go to the top five. He's out of the first round.

Who knows if there's a home for him now? What does Hendon Hooker's future look like? There's some wide receivers left. There's some tight ends left. There's a lot of great players still available. Second round, third round kickoff tonight, 7 p.m. Let's go. We'll hear what Ian Rappaport's thinking.

He's been in Kansas City for 15 days. I'm excited to hear what it's been like for him and how boozed up he's been every single night. The Toxic Table is here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmitt. We'll be back, boy. Ty, I don't think that this could be

said enough, so I'm going to reiterate the fact that I just said to you right before we went live. Absolutely crushed it last night as Mad Mel Pal. Appreciate it. Thank you. J.J. Watt said it was your flu game, and I'll tell you what. We don't know if that was a hangover game or a flu game. We know for you, you were battling a double ear infection. Your brain felt like it was going to explode.

Your head was at maximum pressure. And what did you do for five hours? You fucking delivered, pal. Proud of you, Ty. Appreciate it, boys. Appreciate it. Glad I could be here. I really was.

I told you before the show, I was very worried on, like, Tuesday when I started not feeling great. And then on Wednesday was, like, the most sick I've been in a really long time. And I was, you know, just thinking, like, oh, great. You know, just my luck. This is going to happen. I'm going to fucking miss the draft. It's one of my favorite days of the year. You crushed the draft.

And I'm just happy that it went out without a hitch. And I'm very happy with the show. Do you remember anything you said last night? Not really, to be honest. Okay, good. You did great. Hey, you need to know you did great. I appreciate it.

And maybe just move along and just say, you did great. That's probably what I will do, just kind of flush everything, and we're on to Friday and the weekend and the next week when it gets here. I'll tell you what, Iowa guy, now Green Bay Packer, kind of put you in a pretzel there for a bit, Mad Mel. It did. weekend, and then next week when it gets here. I'll tell you what, Iowa guy, now Green Bay Packer, kind of put you in a pretzel there for a bit, Mad Mel. It did. What if Goon to Goons did that?

Specifically to say, fuck that guy in Indianapolis. There's a chance. I would respect it. I would respect it. I was in a bit of a pretzel last night waking up this morning. Feel great about it. Absolutely love it. I mean, hey, you need guys who can rush the passer. And with kind of the way everything played out,

you look at, you know, a lot of people were pissed off. Oh, it didn't take a pass catcher, didn't take a tight end, or, you know, one of these positions that they need to help Jordan Love. Still available. Yeah, it seems like those guys were really overvalued by a lot of the scouts and people who do mock drafts, like who were

saying, hey, deepest class we've had in a really long time. Like, yeah, we had a little run on receivers later, but it genuinely feels like kind of the top 15 or so. Like that's kind of who everyone saw in the top 15. And then after that, it was kind of a mixed bag. We got a chance to chat with Veach, GM of the Chiefs. He had the last pick of the night. We got a chance to chat with Tom Telesco.

Obviously, Tom Telesco had a Chargers pick in the 20s. They were live from a fucking mall, he called it. Great mall. Beautiful mall. Don't know if that's where you should be doing a draft, but hey, they're a professional organization. We are not. Also talked to Ballard.

All of them said, kind of went how we thought it was going to go, even though everybody thought it was an unpredictable draft. We had a guy that was up in a house of comps, breaking down a lot of skill players and secondary. Looked so fantastic. Wore a green suit, knowing he'd be in front of a green screen. Still played. Ladies and gentlemen, host of Everything DB

and the Man to Man podcast, Darius J. Butler. Hey, D-Bot. D-Bot, a little surprising evening for the weapons and everything like that. You did great up there, though. You look so professional. It was fun. I had to figure out that green screen.

It was kicking my ass early. But I figured it out. It was fun, though. We got, like Ty said, we had the running receivers late. Four corners came off the board. I think everybody expected, obviously, the top three. We got Jason Wright on, so Forbes was a surprise going before

Gonzalez, I believe so, but Banks. You know, so the four DBs, four receivers. I liked it. And the quarterbacks. Obviously, the quarterbacks are always the story of the draft. We got Anthony Richardson, definitely excited about that. Thankfully, no surprise with the top two picks. And then once again, we'll find out where Levinson and Hooker ends up.

Well, kind of a surprise whenever the conversation and the narrative started cooking over the last couple weeks. And Chris Ballard addressed that in his press conference after drafting Anthony Richardson. He said, it's bull, I'm not going to swear. He said, it's crap that these stories come out that aren't true. Try to bury these guys. These guys work their asses off to get to this point.

And then the week before the draft, two weeks before the draft, all of this bull, and he finally just said it. Here's Chris Ballard chatting about all the narratives that come out during draft season that we are forced to talk about. We do not love. We do not start any of these narratives. Never. These are just things that are out there happening. And I feel like we've done our best to kind of say this is bullshit this is not

bullshit here's chris ballard actual gm fourth overall pick who had had to have heard a thousand different stories about what was going to happen in the first three uh picks before him here's him chatting about the whole draft cycle and process last night i'm not gonna lie to y'all i kind of i get frustrated. Now I'm going to go off on a sidebar here. All the... I almost said a bad word. All the crap that comes out about these kids.

It's crap. Like, it's bull... I'm sorry, but it's bull... Like, people that leak these stories, these negative stories on kids. I just don't... I don't agree with it. These guys work their ass off to get where they need to be, and then all week you've got to read stories and ask all these,

and then they've got to answer questions on it. So anyway, not on Anthony. It's on some other kids in the draft that are good kids, and I thought had to take a little bit of a beating that they shouldn't have had to take. Chris Bowers talking about C.J. Stroud, we think. Also, Chris Ballard's hearing all these stories. He's like, no, no, no, Texans take C.J. Stroud, please. Let's not get crazy here.

Let's not get Anthony Richardson up to number two overall. Why are these people saying these things that are not true? Conte, let's put out that he's a good guy. Conte, let's put this thing out. We need Anthony Richardson still available at four. We talked to Chris Ballard after the draft, after he made the pick, and he talked about pretty much like,

hey, it's not about right now. It's about what he's going to become. They were drafting a ceiling there. They were not drafting the floor. And I love that Chris Ballard kind of went out of his way to do that and say that. Not a normal Colts move for Chris Ballard to kind of say that and do that.

But as soon as we heard Anthony Richardson's name announced as Colts fans we were fucking pumped now obviously nobody wanted Will Levis in the first round yeah that was tough we did not know that was the case though because everything we'd been hearing is that Will Levis would go number one overall here's what Chris Ballard said to us immediately after picking Anthony Richardson at four overall to be the new face of the Indianapolis Colts has it been Anthony Richardson this whole time and why was it Anthony Richardson Chris yeah we've been dialed in on him for a while and um look we're betting on on what we think he can become and he's a he's a physical freak in terms of his ability to run and throw. He's a big, strong man.

And then the more time we spent with him, you know, we just thought that, you know what, he is going to really grow because he's smart, he cares, and he wants to be good. And all those things. Look, is it going to be pretty early? Probably not. But we'll work through it and let his talent come to life at some point. I love that.

I love everything about him being honest because this is right after the pick. All the Colts fans were expecting a quarterback at four. All the draft boards were telling us it's going to be Will Levis. I don't think everybody was as pumped for that. But I did see some Colts fans say, oh, great, we take a guy that couldn't win college or whatever. It's like, you know what he did win? Whenever he could compete against every other quarterback

that's ever been in the combine, he beat him at everything. At the best. And maybe the team around him was shit. And if he was to come back, would he be able to be more successful? We would assume. But who knows what that team's going to be around him. Now we got the guy that worked with Jalen Hurts. We got Jonathan Taylor in the backfield.

You got Jelani Woods, a 6'7 tight end. You got two weapons in Pittman and Pierce. I assume we're going to add to that. You're talking about an offense maybe being reinvigorated. And people talk about the offensive line last year being shit. We've talked about that a lot. Third different quarterback in like two years. They weren't able to get on the same page.

When you have a quarterback that has the opportunity or at least the threat to move, you're going to freeze up two people in the box. That helps the offensive line out. I think immediately we make the team better. But I do like the fact that Chris Ballard says, hey, this might be fucking ugly early. Okay? We got to figure it out. But we're throwing him in the deep end.

Everybody's talking about he needs experience. He needs experience. He's 6'4", 240. let's hope he doesn't get hurt and he can't get hurt but we're throwing him into games because we need it that was really the only drawback from Colts fans and I feel like that was taking place all across the draft last night I didn't get a chance to keep up with everybody in their thoughts and every team to help us with that one half of the hammer died Cowboys, Tone Diggs, who did a fantastic job alongside Gumpy last night from the Hammer studio. What were kind of fans talking about last night that maybe we might've missed

while we're in here getting entertained by Red Panda and American's great escape hero, Michael on the stage. Yeah, we were super positive and thank you for that. So we didn't see any of the negative stuff last night. Hey, no problem. You did great, Tone. Hey, Tony, you did amazing. Great job, Tony. And I, and thank you for that. So we didn't see any of the negative stuff last night. Hey, no problem. You did great, Tony.

Hey, Tony. Hey, Tony, you did amazing. Great job, Tony. And I don't find the negative stuff. The negative stuff kind of finds me. Well, that's like the game. Us positive, super positive about Texans going two and three, obviously CJ Stroud, Will Anderson.

But a lot of people thought giving up 33, a first-round pick next year, and a third-round pick next year might have been a lot to move up to get will anderson so that was kind of negative about the texans there we kind of talked about the cold stuff there where maybe you don't want your number four overall pick saying it's not gonna be pretty early because if you're number four overall you kind of want it to be pretty early yeah but i think chris the thing i like about it and i just feel like i have to do is i like that he's confident enough in himself i agree to just be like yeah this is what we did you don't like it cool first couple weeks it. To just be like, yeah, this is what we did.

You don't like it? Cool. First couple weeks is not great? Fire me. Whatever. Whatever. This is the guy that I think is going to be the best for our team and the best for our future. And that's what GMs have to do.

But it sounds like not every fan believes every GM. Yeah, I think we're positive about it. And if they say potential gets you fired. But, I mean, Anthony Richard could be the best quarterback of all time. We don't know that yet. We don't know anything. Correct. B. John at eight.

Hey, is Will Anderson worth a first, next year's first and third? We don't know yet. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. We have no idea. Bingo. B. John at eight.

Some guy that invented football said that was a bad decision because they were already a great running team last year with some of the younger backs that they had last year in Cordell or Patterson. But what is it they say? The enemy of great is good. Okay, if you're good, could you be better with Bijon? Yeah, probably. Yeah, it was interesting.

I saw a little bit of the narrative about the Falcons reaching for Bijon because all the mocks had running back going later maybe to 10 to the Eagles. Eagles trade up and get Jalen Carter. Good for them. But Bijon Robinson going to the Atlanta Falcons feels like the perfect match. Yes. So you're telling me a team that is very prolific

with running backs decided to get the best running back in the game or in the draft? That feels like a smart move to me as opposed to people that were spinning it as, you don't need the best. You can just get three great ones. It's like, imagine what Artie Smith can fucking do with the guy who they're saying is Alvin Kamara.

We saw him do it with Derek Henry. Was that bad? Exactly. I just don't fully understand how the negative reaction is the immediate one because we have no idea what's going to happen. But also, what your team was last year, you're trying to get better upon.

If you can, even if it's something you're good at, like you found what you're good at, let's go ahead and exploit that even a little bit more. Got a young quarterback getting thrown in there. You got young talent around him, Drake London, Kyle Pitts, and now there's another guy who you expect to grow up with that quarterback. But, I mean, this was, in my opinion, the best player in the draft, just overall prospect.

Like, blue chip that's been thrown around. This is a blue chip guy. And then off the field, he seems like an amazing high character kid. Shout out Verizon. Yeah, that's somebody you want in your building for sure. But, I mean, you get a great player. You heard a lot of these same things when Christian McCaffrey was traded for by the San Francisco 49ers last year, and that worked out.

Yeah, why do you need Christian? You already got enough running backs, and the system will create a running back. It's like, well, if the system's great and you get a great – not that those guys weren't, but you get a weapon in there with a good system, it's like. Kind of a successful marriage. Here we go. What are we even talking about? I don't know why everybody automatically goes negative with everything.

Joining us now is a man who's uber positive. That's right. How could he not be? He's so damn handsome. He somehow every single year that passes looks a year younger. He's got those baby blue eyes. High school baseball stallion that's right chose to play football at ohio state now he's the face of college football last night he

was on abc doing the draft friend of the program centerville oak kirk herb street what's up herbie how we doing boys how was your show last night hey long one last night herbie long one last night a lot of action a lot last night. A lot of action, a lot of moves, a lot of picks. 31 picks instead of 32. Long night. Were you on the set the entire night last night? Yeah, entire night. And probably like you guys, those first three picks kind of sent shockwaves through the 100,000 fans. I mean, it's not very often you see a team make a pick and then make a trade and then they're back up on the board again. And I heard you guys talking about what they had to give up to be able to pull that off.

And I think initially because of the names that are involved with CJ and Will, it's star power, right? I mean, those are two of the biggest names on the board, and right away they're going to Houston. You've got a new head coach, D'Amico Ryans, who's coming over from San Fran. It gets you kind of excited about this ownership, and this GM looks like they're trying to make some moves

to try to become a player right now in the AFC South. So that kind of got things going. But everybody's talking about, you're so right. Who knows, right? I mean, it's time to celebrate these guys. But the one team that stood out to me a little bit, you know, on that first night was Detroit. I think they pick up a bat.

I don't know if people who follow the NFL realize what Jameer Gibbs is going to be for Detroit. Think about what Detroit did last year offensively. And now you get that weapon. I mean, think of Alvin Kamara. Think of Christian McCaffrey. That's who he is. This guy isn't a running back that can run routes. He can line up in the slot and run like a wide receiver. I mean, he is a this guy isn't a running back that can run routes he can line up in the slot and run

like a wide receiver i mean he is a matchup nightmare and then he can get physical he's a 200 pound back he can run between the tackles so that was a great pick and then they turn around and get jack campbell hell yeah about it gets a freak 65240 and can run and probably the most productive linebacker that we've seen over the last two years combined in college football and they pick him up. So, man, I thought Detroit got off to a great start last night. Okay, so we appreciate

that breakdown there and we agree and Foxy was super pumped. Herbie, I needed that today because my mentions were full of negative Lions fans that said we reached for both guys and I don't know why we reached for both guys. And I don't know why we got a running back. So, Herbie, you know more than anyone, I needed that today.

Herbie, why is everybody so negative immediately? I mean, honestly, it feels like that's the case. And I think that's what our draft spectacular has become. I don't want to say it's become like a mockery of the draft. It's become a celebration of the draft more so than anything. Every pick that's made, we're like, ah, could be. Because it's literally just a roll of the dice. All of these guys could be great.

It seems like everybody just immediately assumes, oh, we could have got him in a second round, all these deal makers. It's like, yo, you got a guy who could be 6'5", 240 at linebacker. It's like, Dan Campbell's not going to fuck that one up, it feels like. That's just kind of how they've been. That's a good sign. But he's supposed to go 50 to 60, allegedly, by the people that aren't GMs, Kirk. So that's the people we're supposed to take serious. Nobody knows shit about him.

That's where we are. Nobody knows anything. And if somebody makes a pick that doesn't align with what they thought and their mock, then it's a terrible pick. I'm with you guys. I know how you guys are. You celebrate these guys. I mean, it was cool to be at the hotel.

There aren't a ton of hotels where you're staying in Kansas City. So all the networks were at the same hotel. All the players, all of their families, everybody's there. There was such a, I don't know, just a tremendous buzz and excitement leading into it. There's people that are anxious, they're nervous, and then you get picked and you're going to go, oh, that guy sucks. Oh, I can't believe he gets picked. No, I mean, you have no idea how it's going to work out.

Jack Campbell, I mean, if you're a detroit fan you're complaining what do you can on what merit what do you complain about no idea what would ever make you complain unless you you don't watch college football maybe if you don't watch college football that's the one thing that just let me air this out i just i've watched these guys play from the time they're they're 18 years old until they get ready for the draft. And to be candid, I don't do a lot of, you know, I'm looking at the tape, 536 hours of tape. I just watch. I watch the games for three years.

And then I just talk off the top of my head about what I saw these guys do for three years. I don't need to break the film down and watch his initial short area space quickness. I just, can the guy play football? Can the guy fucking play the game? The guys that Detroit got can play. I can assure you that. No, they're not the only ones. There was 31 picks last night.

I think offensive tackle was a good little run there. Edge rush was a good little run there. Feels like that's kind of the game, right? Let's protect the quarterbacks. Quarterback C.J. Stroud, too. Anthony Richardson becomes the second or third quarterback going with Bryce Young being the lock over there. And Connor

has a question about a little negativity from last night, maybe. Yeah, Kirk, last night was unbelievable and obviously I recorded the show that you guys had, so I can't... We're going to watch it back today. Five hours. Very, very excited. Whole thing. Whole thing.

Yeah, it's going to be awesome. I'm sure it was definitely the best show on TV, but one of the worst parts of last night was how tough it was watching Will Levis kind of go through that entire situation. Were you as surprised as we were that that was going to happen? And also, did you let ESPN know, like, hey, stop fucking showing this guy on camera give him a rest well again being on abc honestly we would go to it here and

there just because you know he was like you said he's a story we didn't like do it you know the way aaron rogers or brady quinn you know dealt with it. It was like every shot they could show, it was going back to those drafts. I mean, we showed it. I don't know. I guess I'm surprised. I thought he'd go somewhere in the first round. I don't study this stuff to know, like, you know, what teams need, who desperately needs a quarterback.

There was talk about the Titans, you know, because of Tannehill. This stage of his career, they might make a move. But once Richardson went to four, and Todd McShay does, like, he does this 12 months out of the year. Yeah. And he was sitting next to me, and he was like, man, it's going to be interesting to see what happens to Levis now, because he could slide. But I don't even think Todd and these guys that really follow the draft thought he'd slide all the way out of the first round. And I'm sure he's going to end up at a place that's going to give him a chance to compete.

And all this will be old news. But I was very confident because I know CJ. And despite the way people tried to spin the S2 stuff. Bad. Bad. It wasn't S2 being bad. It was the coverage being bad um i i just have known the kids since he was a freshman and so he's one of the his his strength is actually his ability to process like that that's a strength of his so once you knew that he and bryce were going to be gone

it was like okay who's going to be that next guy you know and the way the media and the way the speculation or these mocks i mean will levis depending on who you talk to is picking up momentum and minus 1500 to go top five nuts yeah yeah exactly and then that's huge that's huge it seemed like richardson was losing some momentum you know depending on who you talk to and then chris pulls the trigger at four and goes with the big fella and you start to think think about, wow, okay, Shane Steichen coming over from Philly with Jalen Hurts. You think about the weapons that they have around it. Basically, if you're an Indy fan, you want to go back and just study what Jalen Hurts in Philly was doing last year because that's going to be your offense in 2023.

And who better to do that than the best, most gifted physical athlete of any of the quarterbacks? I mean, this guy, the one thing you can knock him on is lack of a – he would have honestly, in a perfect world, he would have benefited from another year of college football and just kind of growing and developing. But now he gets to do that as an NFL quarterback in the system that he's going to be in.

But now he gets to do that as an NFL quarterback in the system that he's going to be in. And his decision-making and his accuracy obviously has got to get better. And just the game has got to slow down for him. Darius knows that better than anybody. When he plays a quarterback like a Tom Brady, Tom Brady just methodically or Aaron Rodgers, they see what you're doing almost before you do it. And a young guy, like look at what the Jets' young quarterback. I mean, the game is moving.

It's like in fast forward for him. Yeah, and there's like his mom's friends too. Right. Exactly. Yeah, there's a lot going on there. But with Anthony Richardson, because of the system he'll be running, it's kind of what they were doing at Baltimore the last few years with Lamar. You run a system, it can kind of simplify the coverage because those safeties got to get down and they got to worry about QB run threat.

And it kind of can simplify what they're doing on the back end and make things a little bit easier for him. So it's a roll of the dice by Chris. It's exciting. I think that city is going to go crazy when they see him in a uniform and see what he's all about. The dude is as freaky of a prospect as I've ever seen in 28 years.

It's going to be exciting to see what he can do in that offense. He does that backflip just so easy. He runs one into the end zone and does that backflip. Indianapolis is going to go absurd. And with the last couple years, Kirk, two years ago, we lose in Clowntown, don't make the playoffs.

Last year was abysmal. Boring to watch. I don't think Colts fans, and this is a wild thing, we're picking number four, the roster's good. I don't think Colts fans are like, hey, this year needs to be, we need to go win, win, win. It's just like the Justin Fields in Chicago. We need to see like seven to eight games

where Anthony Richardson's like could be a guy. Good football. And if he could be a guy, then we're like, yes, we got a guy. But now the thing about Steichen, had A.J. Brown, had little Batman with Devontae Smith. I mean, they got some real weapons over there. We got Pittman, Pierce, and a tight end. We're going to have to attack that here in the next couple rounds of free agency.

That's the best O-line in football, too. The O-line's going to have to figure it out. What? No, that's what he was saying. Hey, guys, how about this? All of a sudden, AFC South goes from being like, ugh, to, ooh, with Trevor Lawrence and Travis again and what they did last year. AFC South is just fine.

Seven out of eight. There's going to be some fun storylines in that division for sure. I'll tell you what, and some Thursday night games are going to be electrifying. Tone Diggs has a question for you here. I know you've got to go quick. Yeah, Herbie, how do you feel about the Georgia Bulldogs defense basically being a feeder system for the eagles now oh man smart they should just they should give a class on how to draft they are such a different level

way they put their roster together i mean just when you look at their defensive line like pull out their depth chart and look at philly's defensive line and with the first pick i'm sure there's some other areas i mean they lost they lost some safeties, you know, maybe they could go that route. And they just can, I just, doing the NFL last year, I've always been an NFL fan and covered it and watched it. But when you do the games, you kind of go to another level of being prepared. And the thing that just, every week, the line of scrimmage, we get so enamored with the quarterback and the receivers and the skill and the points. It's the line of scrimmage.

Look at these great teams. And the smart teams just continue to add depth and get bigger and stronger and faster up front. And Philly's another example of that. I mean, they went and got the big guy last year. Jordan Davis. They thought that was a great pick. If you think he was a great pick if if you think he was a great pick wait till you see what's coming in this year i mean it's smart it's the

best defense in college football and why not continue to bring in great players like that and bring great leaders in like that uh but i think it's fantastic here's their squad and obviously they're gonna add to it we assume as they continue there. A lot of Georgia Bulldogs now in Philadelphia. Just made it to the Super Bowl. Lose offense coordinator, lose defensive coordinator. They're still re-upping. They got a lot of talent over there. What was with the story this morning that hit the Internet

that the Georgia coaches were not speaking highly of Jalen Carter or something like that? And why does that shit all get out there? That's one of those things. I know Kirby really, really well. Kirby would never speak bad about one of his players. Now, he might say he's got to be able to get in the right position, the right place, which, by the way,

having all those Georgia guys around Jalen Carter helps helps jalen is the defensive version of anthony richardson as far as if you're just looking at who's the most talented player you're just watching film and you're looking at players make plays he's in the nfl you guys use these terms game wrecker i mean it's obvious this guy as soon as you turn the film you're an offensive coordinator you're like okay we got to account for 88 like that's the first thing you're an offensive coordinator, you're like, okay, we got to account for 88. That's the first thing you're looking at because of what he can do and the difference that he can make in a game. But that's just bullshit. That's just stuff that people are going to throw out there and try to take shots.

We were with Kirby last night on the air, off the air. He had some moments during the season. You go back and look at the national championship. There moments that that he would be talking to jalen carter jalen carter kind of looked at him like it was suggested talk not okay sir yes sir kind of talk so i think people started to speculate a little bit about some stuff but there's really nothing to that i mean georgia they got great players they got players that play on the edge. And a lot of times players that play on the edge and play defense are the best players in the league. And so I think having the Kobe Dean and those other Georgia guys definitely can help out this defense and help Jalen Carter out on a personal level. Well, you help us out on a personal level and

on a show level. We appreciate you taking time here on this busy Friday overreaction to round one. Enjoy your day. Enjoy your weekend. You're the absolute man, pal. You guys are the best, man. I'll be watching you tonight. Have some fun. No, no. No, no, no. What are you doing tonight?

What's your problem, Herbie? Go back to Kansas City. Get your ass on that stage. Are you doing it? I thought you guys just kept banging. Don't put that on us, Herbie? Go back to Kansas City. Get your ass on that stage. Are you doing it? I thought you guys just kept banging. Nah, don't put that on us, Herbie. All right, Herbie, please. Jeez Louise. So you guys, are you just chilling tonight then too, like me?

Not like you. No way. Not like you. I mean, we're not able to live like you, Herbie. Bro, I've never seen you pull. What's the hat? What's the hat going on here? Dude, I got like two hours of sleep last night. You know, hopped in the shower this morning.

Didn't want to do the whole hair thing. But my head's so big. You know, like you've seen me take this thing off four times. It's not comfortable. This thing is like digging into the side of my head right here. So it's tough. I'm trying to figure out how to do it. You're a big ball cap guy, though, because you play baseball.

Oh, this is a good time. I mean, it's a draft reaction, but we need to talk about this. Pittsburgh Pirates are the best team in fucking baseball. Cincinnati Reds, worst team in baseball. Oh, my God. I might start wearing more hats. Maybe I'm a baseball guy now. Herbie, maybe you should take the cap off, pal.

18-8, second best record in baseball. Are you kidding me, dude? 26 games in, we got 18 of them? Hey, I think you're 18-8. So enjoy this little start you've had. The Reds, by the way, after looking typical April terrible, they got a sweep over the Texas Rangers.

They've won three in a row. Now they go out west against Oakland. I think they have the Padres. Don't worry. I'm going to call you the day that the Reds pass the Pirates in the division. I'm going to hop back on here with you. We just paid a guy a hundred and something million dollars. That ain't what the Pirates have ever done. I'm going to hop back on here with you. We just paid a guy a hundred and some million dollars.

That ain't what the Pirates have ever done. We're playing baseball now. You have probably the best setting in Major League Baseball. Not probably. I mean, come on. PNC Park. And this is the BNP, pal, in PNC. The brand new Pirates in PNC.

It's great to be a baseball town. We could take it over to PNC for a weekend series. Hey, sounds good. We'll dress like umps. We'll go right behind him. Perfect. We'll do the full hey! You know what I mean? We'll do that whole thing. Alright, we appreciate you. Have a great day. You're the man, ladies and gentlemen.

Baby blue eye. Big brain Hampton. Kirk Herbstreit. Hey, Kirk! Herbie's the man, dude. He's the best. Glad he's in the NFL now. Yeah, happy Herbie's the man, dude. Oh, he's the best. Glad he's in the NFL now. Yeah, happy he's in the men's league. Yeah, it's about time. I don't say I watch 56 hours of film. I watch these guys play. Three years

straight. Every single game, pretty much. Yeah, I think so. And I'm just talking off the top of my head. Guy plays football good. He knows him. Is that what you're looking for? Is that what we're driving? I don't know. You tell me. I'm so happy he said that. Lions fans were so mad about the running back pick. That wasn't the only – hey, they weren't the only fan base.

Two running backs go before any wide receivers, which was going to be your question to Herbie and your question to Herbie. That was a surprise. That felt like a big-time surprise of the night. Yeah. Gibbs was for sure. B. John, we didn't know he could have went anywhere. Gibbs was for sure.

Bijan, we didn't know he could have went anywhere, but Jackson Smith and Jigba was kind of mocked around that 12, 13, 14 area when he fell to, what, 20, I think, to the Seahawks? Yep. Yeah, that was definitely a surprise. Yeah. And then the run just started. Yes, it did. Jackson Smith and Jigba to Quentin Johnson to the Chargers,

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DADDOM! Shout out to Herbie joining us. I think he's driving to meet the wife right now for lunch. That was nice. Glad he's not on the highway again. That was the worst. Do you remember this? Do you ever see this happen? He pulled not on the highway again. Yeah, that was the worst. That was a couple years ago. Do you remember this?

Do you ever see this happen? No. He pulled over on the side of a fucking highway to do the thing. He was FaceTiming. And the highway that he was at had this big downhill bend coming right at it. So these trucks, we literally saw them in the background. Small little truck coming around and then big, big, big. And then his car would boom.

Yeah, just barely pass. And he's like, this guy can really throw the ball well. It's like, Herbie, will you please get to a fucking exit? Will you please? We thought he was going to die just in there. So I'm happy. Yeah, still get PTSD from that. Legit.

That was a scary scene. I was like, oh, God, please get him in a residential neighborhood. Not this again. He did have a seatbelt on, which is good. He did? Yeah. Unlike Ohio people. What? To wear a seatbelt. I was interested by that.

So I don't wear a seatbelt. Not saying other people shouldn't. You do whatever you need to do. I'm not a big seatbelt guy. What about your safety belt, man? Okay, so how about a friend of mine's uncle who died because a fire started and melted and couldn't get out. He's actually trapped in a seat. That's my life. You

all live your life. You know what I mean? Personal decision. I understand that those things have probably saved people's lives before. There's a lot of studies that have done that. I've seen it. All that stuff.

Somebody I know lost somebody because that fucker melted and they couldn't get out. Now, is that exactly how it went? I don't know. But I was told the story that even if the person wanted out, that thing was melted together pretty much because of the fire.

Keep a little pocket knife. I feel like it's my job here. I promoted the LifeStraw a few times on this program. You went out and got one. I have this nice little flashlight window breaker knife thing that I keep in my side door just in case I go off the side of a bridge and land in the water. So I feel like I wear this one. The one around the bottom? But I ain't wearing this one.

Okay. Okay. So this one's going behind. This one's on. I feel like I met everybody in a minute. That is also a tough move, though, because you can get seriously injured on the inside of your body with just wearing the bottom. I actually do know somebody who was in a bad wreck,

only had the bottom part on, basically tore up every organ and stuff inside of his stomach. Yeah, could saw you in half. Yeah. Okay, so this one's there. It ain't going to fucking just rupture my sternum? Extra support. Instead of going forward.

I mean, you don't have to worry about it because if your truck were to hit a semi, I think the semi would get more fucked up. I agree. In the car that I have, stops before it comes close to hitting anything even if it's incredibly uncomfortable. I was backing into my fucking garage the other day and a raindrop must have got into the sensor. Bro, that thing stopped.

My head hits the thing. I'm like, oh my god, did I just kill somebody? And then I like look around. Oh no, I have fucking two feet over there. What are we doing? So annoying. I know how to park in my garage. I even gave a little like, hey, let's fucking tighten up. I'm the boss. Okay.

If I want you to go back. Yeah, you fucking go back. You go back. I'm going to start wearing a seatbelt though because of this conversation. Yeah. Or just don't wear one. Just don't to the only bottom. What happens if it's the end of the world, okay?

Okay. And you're going to plow through a barrier with your car? Is it going to stop and not let you plow through a barrier? 100% chance, yeah. I think they actually are trying to make cars non- barrier wrecking proof. There should be a button in every car that says

emergency mode. I've got to get away from something. I've got to plow through. Just call it the last of us. Just go to the last of us mode. Bang. Need to run over these humans and that car to get out of this particular area. Is that what the Cybertruck is? Essentially? I think Elon

probably will let you run people over. Allegedly, I believe those cars do run people over. The Cybertruck, Elon Musk, if he had to build it, if we're just thinking about his brain, if people are driving towards you had to build it, if we're just thinking about his brain, if people are driving towards you about to hit you, stop their car.

If you're driving towards somebody else to hit them, stop their car too so you can hit them better. And force them to speed up. Yeah, yeah. If we had to guess. Don't like to judge things like that, but that feels like an Elon Musk move. That's smart. And he would actually present that as,

our truck actually has the capability to run others over and not get run over. Engage the kill switch, and you are good to go. Is there ever a fungus that just takes over everybody's brain? It's possible. Have these things ever been on the road? No. This is, what, six years ago we saw this thing? Yeah.

I still get emails. Yeah, I thought they started actually making them. I officially can't get it, though, and it says next year, but they said that last year. What'd you put, $100 down or something? Yeah, $100. So they got $100 from 150,000 marks to put their name on a list to potentially get one of these 10 years from now. Yeah.

What a great little collection. That's like when the Green Bay Packers say, we're offering up new stocks for ownership, and they just collect $10 million. Exactly. Are you talking about part owner? No, I'm saying you're a mark, and they just collect $10 million. Exactly. Are you talking about part owner? No, I'm saying you're a mark, but you're not the only one. There's a lot of people that would have done it.

Part owner mark. And I think I was going to sign up for it, and then whenever I read it, it was like, there's no timeline for you to actually get the Cybertruck. No. So it's going to be tough for me to just give $100 to Elon and not have anything in return? For nothing. He asked me for $8, though though to use something I use every day. You fucking got it.

The first email I got was it wouldn't fit in garages, so they said they had to bring the sizing down. The part of it that everybody liked was the size. Some things don't fit in garages. I just would like to say if you have a small garage, you probably shouldn't have been in one of the markets to put $100 up in the garage.

Also, if you put $100 down, you should have just looked at the thing and be like, oh, this thing looks like shit. I don't want this. Oh, you don't like it? No. That is one of the worst designs. That looks so stupid. I love it. That looks so fucking stupid.

That thing in matte black. It's an ice-cold triangle. No way, dude. I like that thing. Yeah. No way. You like that more than the Hummer you're driving? Are you kidding me?

No. My car looks like a spaceship. That thing looks like something I fucking made out of clay in like fourth grade. I would like to say. Headlights probably all the way across. Anybody driving that clay mold, okay, that does look like it's kind of just. Yeah, exactly. I drew that exact same thing as a car with stick people sitting in it when I was in second grade.

And I was just thinking it was like a Cadillac truck then. So now I know not to drive it to the office. No, definitely drive it to the office. Zito, let me tell you why. Because people that drive that truck and people that drive my truck, we thought we were saving the world. Remember, we thought we were good people. Turns out the power of that clay mold structure. Oh, boy. Boy. Killing like 200 people. Turns out the power of that clay mold structure. Oh, boy.

Boy. Killing like 200 people. Whoa. Every single time you charge it. That's not your fault. Have you seen the working conditions in those mines? I have not, but I've read the headlines. Yeah, that's great.

Do not look. I would like to continue to grandstand on the fact that I'm saving the world with my electric vehicle. Plugged it in the other night, though. Didn't charge at all. What? At all. That's an issue issue i just assumed it was dead plugged it in last night started working only had an hour and a half charge though so i don't know how long we got in on that thing but it's back it's back better than ever probably because the kid who's pedaling a bike to charge your car died two days ago and then they finally

replaced him so you're saying like that fl Flintstones human movie where they got that little dinosaur that is the garbage disposal? Yep. You're saying that's happening on the other side of my wall in my house where I plugged that thing in? I got a kid over there in a Peloton just... It's not even on the other side of your house actually. The plug-in power to kind of link with the car. Oh, it's a Bluetooth. Yeah.

It's being run, I don't know, probably somewhere in the worst part of China right now as we speak. What is that about? Hey, that's not me. That's just... It's a draft spectacular I don't know, probably somewhere in the worst part of China right now as we speak. What is that about? Hey, that's not me. It's a draft spectacular reaction. And I am pumped about it. You know how pumped I am for this second round?

There's still so many good dudes on the board. Hey, the Patriots got a big-time corner there. Christian Gonzalez, you thought there was a chance he would go much earlier. The Patriots make a play. It seems like a smart Bill Belichick move. Yeah, great Bill Belichick move. He's versatile, can play all over the back end, can match up with different body types. Devin Witherspoon, a lot of buzz about him going into the draft.

He was clearly a cut above the other guys, according to the scouts, going at five to Seattle, which was a surprise. And then Washington going and grabbing Emmanuel Forbes right before Christian Gonzalez. Hell yeah. I'm sorry, after Christian. No, he was before. Yeah, right before Christian Gonzalez. That was kind of a surprise, After. No, right before. Yeah, right before. Right before.

Christian Gonzalez. So, that was kind of a surprise too. You know, his question marks about his weight, but he's an absolute dog. Hell yeah. So,

Deontay Banks, Christian Gonzalez, Emmanuel Forbes, and Witherspoon. Four corners go in the first round. Am I reading that right? Yep. That's good or bad?

That a good number? About what you expected. It was three guys that I expect to go. And then Forbes, Cam Smith. Joey Porter Jr. Joey Porter Jr. could have all been first rounders as well. So I expect him to come off probably in the second. Yeah, Branch is the nickel safety type of guy.

Pittsburgh Steelers are sitting on a 30-second pick here, right? Yeah. Pittsburgh Steelers have gotten a lot of phone calls. They take an offensive tackle. Massive human being. Yes. I watched his draft party. He's got a lot of people in his family. He gonna have to figure out where all that money's gonna go about

the same thing but he needs to potentially cut six eighths so what does that mean are those people out of the room i do like that everybody around him though is happy for him seems like a great guy everybody loves him steelers are trading this 30 second pick though allegedly is what's gonna happen yeah first that was awesome because we assumed, Connor and I, that Belichick probably called Tomlin, hey, you guys are looking for a tackle or a corner. What do you guys want? Tomlin said tackle.

He said, all right, the Jets want a tackle, too. Let's fuck over the Jets in the AFC East. How's that sound? All right, we'll do that. And then here at 32, because, I mean, a lot of Steelers fans would have been happy with potentially Joey Porter Jr. or Brian Branch or a center that's going tonight. But I think there's so many of those guys that you can still get here

in the second. It depends on how far they would have to trade back from that 32nd if there's a team there that does want to go up and maybe get Levis and Hooker. But I've heard, or I believe people are reporting, that the asking price, the Steelers aren't just giving up that pick. They're asking for a decent amount of picks. He's still a first-rounder. Exactly. That's a first. I've heard, or I believe people are reporting, that the asking prices, the Steelers aren't just giving up that pick. They're asking for a decent amount of picks.

Still a first-rounder. Exactly. That's a first. That's a first-rounder because the Miami Dolphins cheated. Yes. Right. Let's go to the phones. 5-RNG phone line.

Let's hear what some people are thinking about the thoughts. Let's go to Jay in Florida. Jay, what's going on, pal? I have a little bit of a conspiracy theory here going on, I think. Love it. So, Anthony Richardson has a better RAS score as a wide receiver than Chase Claypool. He's a perfect 10.0. And then last night, he's on the NFL Network for their draft interview pre-draft, and he's got a little brother with him.

And his little brother is an exact clone of him. Something's going on here. Thank you, Jay. Holy shit, that guy's on to something. Thank you, Jay. Holy shit. That guy's on to something. I don't think I got it. I didn't either. Am I too tired?

What did Chase Claypool have to do with Anthony Richardson? Well, he said his score. His RAS score, which is what? Relative Athletics Score. That's like the big new thing now. It's a 10. For a receiver. Is that out of the 10?

I believe so, yes. So he would be the best receiver physically in this particular draft class. Oh, you feel like he compares to Chase Claypool. Yeah, because his body. He jumps higher than Chase. I think he runs faster than Chase. He's bigger than Chase. So what's the conspiracy with his little brother that he's athletic too?

He said he looks exactly like him. He does, but his little brother was also like 5'7". Bingo. At best, 5'7". That got me in trouble with my brother. He's four years older than me. I used his ID a lot, but on there it said 5'7". That got me in trouble with my brother. He's four years older than me. I used his ID a lot. But on there, it said 5'8".

And that became a problem down in Panama Beach, Florida. I actually got surrounded by police officers. And I stared them right in the eyes and I said, I hit a gross bird, sue me. And then I told them my social security number, which was his number. Then I told them my parents' names, their job, their everything. And I made the guy that put the X's on my hand, said I was too young, give me that ID back and wash this off.

And then I walked right in there and got hammered drunk. Hell yeah. At 19. But that whole age thing or that size thing is a vast difference in siblings, which doesn't make sense to me really. How does that work? Same people come together, create something. Vastly different sizes.

Anthony Richardson's brother's 5'7". This dude's 6'4". Physical freak. I love him even more now. I thought maybe we were going to get another one. If Anthony Richardson's brother is going to come to the Colts in a year or two, I was excited with what Jay was saying. That is not what Jay was saying? No, but I think his brother's also

13, so he's probably got a ways to go. Oh, so he's going to be a Colt. I mean, they do look very, very similar. Sounds like he's 40. He's been country boy here, Anthony Richardson? Gainesville, Florida, kind of country. Young, too. I didn't know he was only 20.

So he stayed home? Yeah, stayed home. I mean, I'm excited about the kid. He's obviously got some things to figure out, but when you're an athlete like that, it makes things a lot easier. We have an update from the internet. Antonio Brown just tweeted that he's excited to return to the NFL this year. Hashtag Ravens flock. Hey, baby, AB.

Lamar Jackson gets another weapon. Obviously, Antonio Brown still has a 10-pack. I believe he's the owner of an Arena League team as well. The conversation of him joining Lamar Jackson has been one that's been cooking up for two to three years. Now, Antonio Brown of Donda Sports is reporting via tweet that he's back in the AFC North with the Baltimore Ravens. They got Zay Flowers. They got OBJ. And now Antonio Brown says,

they got me too. So I'm excited to see what is real and what isn't for us. The Ravens know this. I wonder if Harbaugh's going to have to come out and talk about this. Good question. I would assume that's the case.

And if we remember when Antonio Brown was rapping a few weeks back at a festival, he'd see you got football out there, throw that shit. One guy threw a bad ball. Then somebody threw a great ball. He snags it one hand, spins it on the ground, beat drop. We're right back into a song. I think when it comes to football, Antonio Brown can still play it.

Top tier. Just whether or not you want to sign up for everything else that potentially comes with Antonio Brown, he's tweeting saying Harbaugh said, we want more. We want more. I don't know. That's awesome. Get him back. He just woke up and said, you know what? Fuck it.

I'm playing this shit. Let's start some shit. This is what you call public leverage. What if he started saying that? Yeah, I just told everybody I'm on the team. You guys got to sign me now. Kanye taught me this. What a play. Don't be sad, Ravens fans.

I'm not retired yet. That was a cameo from Cheech's car whenever he left the Jets game. Did not know what his profession was going to be. He started doing cameos. Somebody from Pittsburgh said they were sad that Ben Roethlisberger was retiring, and he cut a promo about Ben Roethlisberger, not saying his name properly at all, but saying he's still got a lot left. And that really kind of put Pittsburgh Steelers fans at ease. Yeah, we did.

I was like, I wasn't really sleeping a lot at that time because I was kind of sad, but then I watched that AB video a couple times before bed, and I slept fucking great that night. Let's go to Jeremiah in Utah. Obviously, we believe Antonio Brown is throwing a pot. A little bit. We appreciate the fact that Antonio Brown woke up today and said, fuck it.

Yep. But if the Baltimore Ravens are bringing in this many weapons, and Antonio Brown says, I'll help you guys spin a narrative that you're bringing in weapons, Lamar Jackson's got to be pumped on this brand new five-year, $255 million deal. $185 million guaranteed. Negotiated it himself with his mom. Congrats to Lamar getting that deal done.

We didn't get to chat about it yesterday as much as we should. There was a lot of question marks on whether or not this deal would get done. What would it take to sign Lamar? Lamar wants a fully guaranteed deal. Lamar wants this. He's hard to talk to. Has he been reaching out to other teams to build leverage? All he did was remain quiet. He built something called the entire gym.

He started selling it. He has another soul food restaurant, I do believe, down in the South Florida area that absolutely crushed it for numerous events. He's handling his business. We wondered if he was going to get hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars. Now we know he's getting $ business we wondered if he was going to get hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars now we know he's getting 185 million dollars guaranteed the second most guaranteed

contract in the history of the nfl and the biggest contract overall in the history of the nfl he negotiated alongside of his mom hell yeah lamar way to go lamar way to get that thing done i feel like i did say every time we talked about him getting an agent, there was still time for him to negotiate a deal. If he ends up getting, I think I said $140 or $150 million guaranteed, he negotiated himself, he deserves some business respect, $185 million guaranteed. Jalen Hurts' deal certainly had to have helped in the situation,

but we're pumped for the Ravens getting that done, and I'm very thankful to Lamar Jackson. He's getting a chance to become wealthy off of all the shit that he's earned on the football field. Yeah, key word right there, earned. You know, he earned it. And this is the NFL. You go out there, you play ball.

Once you're up, you get paid. You reset the market. If you've accomplished the things that he has, obviously Watson's deal is going to continue to be an outlier. But Hurts' deal got done. Sure, it sped this up. And he gets, what, 52 a year, 185 guaranteed. Yeah, on average. Love that form, man.

And now you can actually continue to build that Ravens culture back and hopefully get back to a Super Bowl like you promised on draft night. I saw somebody tweet, because he saved a 3%, which is what NFL agents take. Now, I would say if they're working with Lamar Jackson, they probably bump that down to 1.5% because you know how much money you're going to potentially make off the field with Lamar. So we're not just guaranteed to sign a 3%.

Saved himself like $7 million to $10 million. Yeah, absurd. Hell yeah, dude. That's a good amount of money. And people would think you wouldn't be able to get as much on the back end because you don't have an agent. So you're saving the money, but you're saving money that you didn't earn or whatever,

not earned it and then also saved it. Hell yeah. I'm happy for them. I'm pumped that they got this deal done before the season so we don't have to go through another season of questioning whether or not this Baltimore Ravens team wants Lamar around for the long term, whether or not Lamar is having to think for his future

or think for right now. With every single decision he makes on a football field, he's going to get back to that. He's got Odell Beckham Jr. as a weapon. He's still got his tight end, and hopefully they'll remain somewhat healthy in the back end and running back position. The Ravens immediately back in conversation and in good graces with seemingly every player in the NFL because of what they did for Lamar here.

They do the right thing. This is great. I'm so fucking happy for all parties over there. Yeah, unreal for Baltimore, and they ended up creating more cap space with Lamar. So after talking about the whole D-hop thing yesterday and him not getting any movement, maybe the Ravens now make another move and go get him another weapon.

I hope the system changes. Obviously, Greg Roman has moved on, and, you know, won a bunch of games. I don't think you're going to win a Super Bowl unless you're kind of a pass first team. I think Lamar has the ability to pass on the ball. You bring in Todd Monken, I think, from Georgia as a new OC. You got Zay Flowers now in the first round, who some people had his wide receiver one in this draft. You got OBJ on the one-year deal. Andrews, likely.

And like you said, keep those backs healthy. They got a potential. Bateman, you know, now we can kind of see what he can do. It got a potential to be a hell of an offense. So Munkin, when he was with the Browns, OBJ's first year there, before he went to Georgia to win a couple national championships as offense

coordinator there, OBJ had over 1,000 yards, his best season that he's had in a long time. So I assume Munkin was a massive part of, hey, we'd like Odell Beckham Jr. here if we can get him. They pay him $15 million. They invest their first-round pick in Zay. It feels like the Ravens are showing all of us,

hey, we're going to go in on throwing the rock a little bit more. We've heard you loud and clear. Now, them trading Hollywood Brown away last year was almost an indicator like, okay, they're relying on this whole too tight end. They're going to run it ground and pound. And then whenever they don't pay Lamar at the beginning,

well, he can't throw the ball. It's like, well, now they're paying him. He's got the weapons. They're seemingly going all in. Bad news for the AFC North. Bad news. And normally I would say no because the Steelers do play him so well. I believe he's one and two versus Steelers with four touchdowns and six

interceptions, but not everyone plays him well. Like he has a lot of, a lot of, a lot of wins in this league. So I mean, whether he plays well against the Steelers or not, they're going to win a fuck ton of games. And this is the most I've been worried about the Ravens since he's been in the league because of what Monk and his offense did in Georgia and everything that they create. Then it's also probably the best weapons that he's had with OBJ, Zay Flowers, Bateman, Andrews.

Gus Edwards is going to be back healthy. Gus. Gus. Highest state running back. The wheels on the Gus. Go round and round. Round and round. Round and round. Round and round.

That's gussy bussy, bro. Yeah. So, I don't think they're going to beat the Steelers at all, but they're going to beat a lot of other teams, so they're always going to beat them. Let's go to Jeremiah in Utah on the 5RNG phone line. 1-833-432- 3663. 1-8334. Shout out to 5RNG by the way

for being the greatest energy shots ever. Yeah. Perfect for last night. Carried you yesterday, carried me yesterday. Taste delightful. The aftertaste is now good as opposed to what it was whenever the first iteration came out. Shout out to 5RNG. Shout out to Jeremiah

in Utah. What's going on, pal? Cat, what's up, Oos? What's going on, pal? Pat, what's up, Uso? What's up, Uso? Hey, man. How's the mana? Keep it mana. Much mana. Much mana.

And Uso. How's that? Hey, Uso, Jeremiah, Uso. Yes, sir. Hell yeah. A lot of Uso's in Utah, right? Yes, sir. Hell yeah.

But as a 49ers fan, the best part of the draft last night was Red Panda going absolutely ham. And the magician blew absolute cheeks. And lastly, I wanted to thank this specific program for putting me on hockey. Because I would have never gave that sport the time of day. But because of this specific program, you know, last time I watched hockey was Charlie leading the Ducks. Yeah. Hell yeah. Quack.

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Quack. Hell yeah, Uso. Thanks for the call,, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, a little bit of a contingency up there. With that being said, Jeremiah, shout out to you for calling in, and shout out to Red Panda. Shout out, Red Panda. Crushed. Man. I felt real good about that when the old brain was like, let's get Red Panda. That's who we need. That's who I was hyping up the entire time. Like, we got surprises in here that people are never going to expect.

And I started thinking to myself, like, is this just for me? You know, because how much I like Red Panda? And it kind of was. It kind of was just for me. The only reason why I was doing it is because how impressed I am with that. The athleticism, the focus, the danger. I mean, there was a time where I thought she was going off of that unicycle. She's sitting 16 feet in the sky.

I mean, she is way up there. But to time it up and to kick fucking balls under her head is bananas. Is that the first time you've seen her live? No, I actually seen her at a basketball, like an NBA game, I believe, at halftime. She's the halftime spectator. To be like that, like, because I was up top. Yeah, there's a photo Baileyiley got yeah of red panda doing her thing and like she's kind of blurry and then the focus is on d but d but leaning over the rail

the fuck is this lady about to do right here and she did four shit one two three five four missed the first five because one bowl yeah up. It was the bowl fall. And then she bounced back and hit the five the next time. It was like, damn, we're giving away 50 grand because of it. She was the perfect middle of the draft. We need something like that every time. Not that anybody's like Red Panda. We need something

like that every year. Maybe Red Panda. That was one of the most impressive things I've ever seen in my entire life. Have you ever seen her before? I've never seen Red Panda in person. Okay, so that's what I'm saying. I'm thinking a lot of people had not just not seen her in person. It seemed like the internet, a good, not a good, a pretty solid amount of people on the internet were learning of Red Panda for the first time. Bingo. On our thing.

When I was saying like, hey, she's been doing this for a long time in front of thousands and thousands of fans that's real she's been on tour for like 35 years just doing that at halftime dog and every time she comes out there same reaction there was a time for 20 years it felt like she never missed no we're talking one two three four five off the unicycle first time i saw him yeah that was the first time. I've seen her a couple times. You usually don't see her on TV, obviously, because they go away to whatever halftime. But if you're actually at a game, you'll see her.

But, I mean, from the moment she climbed up the ladder to get on the unicycle to the moment she fell down at the end. Must watch. Which I wasn't sure if that was planned or not. But it was like I was locked in every second. It was crazy. She's coming down from 10 feet at the age of 52, landed on heels. Yeah. Wow.

Absurd. That's not a discount. Magician, magical Michael Bolton, who is the American. That was not his name. You were saying a lot of terrible things about Blonde. Did you call him Blonde Jovi? No, Blonde Jovi. Oh, Blonde Jovi.

Because I did think Blonde Jovi, not a bad name for somebody. That's sweet, though, too. Yeah. But, I mean, he was the American magic hero, American escape hero. You're a pig. He is a hero, though. Oh, shit. Matt Mel loved him.

Who? Matt Mel loved him. Matt Mel was just – Matt Mel could not take him serious. And I don't know if you remember anything he said because you're all hopped up on Prednisone and all that other stuff. You did not give the American Escape Hero a shot. I want to let you know that. You did not even give the guy a chance.

Mad Mel had zero time for the fuckery that the American Escape Hero wanted to put us through. And I appreciate you chiming in, but how'd he get out of that rope? Well, it was through the gimmicks. That's how he got out of the rope. Well, that was your first reaction. Exactly. No way. Mad Mel respects the draft. He's a hero. Just like when Richard Eisen didn't like Blue how he got out of the room. Well, that was your first reaction. Exactly. No way. Matt Bell respects the draft.

He's a hero. Just like when Rich Eisen didn't like Blue Man Group coming up on the stage. Disrespect. Well, it wasn't that. It was that he had a couple of the jokes, and it's like, I get it. You got to kind of get the people to buy in. But then I thought, like, okay, we got to make sure this guy doesn't get too comfortable up here. He said 20 minutes at the beginning.

Exactly. And I said, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. No, you don't. You don't have 20. And we were at the point where it was kind of getting like, okay, who's going to go here? Like, we really didn't. Levis is still sitting there.

You know, everyone's talking about Michael Mayer. And then I had also, like, all I was thinking was like, God damn it, I filmed that Michael Mayer thing, okay? And if he doesn't go in the first round, like, that's just, it's not going to be good. So I was kind of like, hey, let's get this fucking guy out of here. And then it just so happened that the table was right behind him, and AQ and Pac-Man were standing there,

and I just started thinking take, and I was like, man, it would be awesome if both these guys just grabbed him. Double chokeslam. Double chokeslam through that table. That would be a great way for the American Escape Hero to kind of. Could you imagine him getting him for the chokeslam, though, and he wiggles out of it? That would be even better.

Chokeslams both of them. He wanted to do the needles first, I think. pretty cool that was pretty impressive i don't know how he did that that one was weird connor you're up in that guy's mouth yeah what did you see i saw a lot of plaque a lot of bad bad teeth let's get through a break obviously you can't say anything serious ever no that's what i saw i am glad that i was back there and not like where you were sitting, seeing, and pull those things out, though. Yeah, I was direct eyes on mouth. The not thing,

AQ's behemoth body was blocking. I thought he was going to pull and fall, though. So I was worried about, you know, we got a little staying cold. We don't need any of that. So my big thing was like, let's not have this big animal fall

whenever whatever happens is about to happen. And then Pac-Man and AQ, they were dumbfounded when that guy got out. Yeah. Pac-Man was like, that guy's hands were very red. Like, that was very tight on him. AQ's like, I tied the knot, didn't I? He was your safe finger. And that guy was out of it before we even seen it.

He was. It was a flash a lot of people had not so nice things to say about Michael the American escape hero but by far the worst and most despicable was AJ Hawk he was disgusting the way he was talking about that American

escape hero I would like to thank him for coming here yeah that's not a self given nickname okay the community of magicians gave him that nickname Thank him for coming here. Yeah. That's not a self-given nickname, okay? The community of magicians gave him that nickname. That's not a self-given nickname. That was, I believe, the greatest of the greats gave him that nickname.

Houdini, I think, actually gave him that nickname. Yeah. He's got a purple heart from magicians, so I don't know why we're just running around here. Let's get to a break. Thank you to the magician. Thank you, Michael. Thank you, American Escape Hero. Shout out to the Us. Thank you, Michael. Shout out, Red Panda. Shout out to the Usos in Utah. And shout out to hockey, huh?

Got a new fan. Look at us spreading the word. How about hockey? Big game tonight. Huge. Hey, you know who the first team to move on to the next round is? Who's that? The Las Vegas Golden Knights.

That's our team. Wow. Another man that did fantastic last night, had a three-piece suit on, was sweating his absolute ass off. Former number five overall pick for the Green Bay Packers, where he would go on to become the all-time leading tackler for that organization. A lot of teams were hoping for the same type of outcome last night, weren't they? Yeah, they are. He's a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion.

He's not a Ryder Cup champion, but he is the champion of Ohio. They actually gave him a trophy for being the biggest Ohioan in Ohio. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawk. Yeah, A.J. A.J., what's up, pal? How's it going? Is Jason Wright on the line? Okay, ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawk does a fantastic job joining us. I want to keep a GM waiting. Come on now.

Well, he's not GM, so you just fucking spit in his face. Ladies and gentlemen, the president of the Washington Commanders, former play— Yeah, you do. Ladies and gentlemen, the president of the Washington Commanders. Former player. Yeah, you do. Ladies and gentlemen, Jason Ryan. Jay, what's that all about, dude? He just spit in your face, dude. Call me what you want. You good.

Yeah, that's nice. Anytime we see a former player have success like you have had, especially in the way that you have, you're not a coach, you're not a GM, you're on the business side. We are massive fans of yours we appreciate you taking time to join us in the middle of this insane period of the nfl cycle you want to talk draft or commanders first either one is fine no no come on which one

draft draft is top of mind man i'm here at the facility about to go in the war room let's talk draft okay how involved are you with the draft you guys take uh emmanuel forbes before christian gonzalez obviously his size was something everybody talked about 166 pounds but everybody that has chatted about him says he's an absolute dog is this continue to build the culture or what do you think made you guys pick him with your pick right before christian gonzalez every team has their unique way of looking at players right um and've got to trust your staff. You build a scouting staff. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa.

We just saw the background there. Oh, hey now. Hey. What a setup. What a setup. You guys are doing a new out. We'll get into that. Anyways, your scout team.

Go ahead. You've got to trust them. You've got to trust them. And when it comes to somebody like Emmanuel, our guys had a different view on him than some of the other DBs. They liked his big play ability. If you said we were lacking one thing on an already strong defense, it was playmaking ability, turnover ability. He has that in spades. And you got to trust some of the stuff that our team started to do, they started to leverage analytics a bit more. And that's not just about performance in college or predictive performance. It's on health and how their body can evolve and mental toughness and things like that. And so he was our guy. And like you said, he's a dog. And I played with a guy at Dominique Rogers, when I was with when I was with the Cardinals.

That was D but last night for this guy on the DRC it. DRC is it. DRC is it. He was incredibly explosive. He could go up and get the ball. He had a natural knack for tracking the ball. He was slight in the frame, but he would stick his head in there when he needed to. And I would argue Emmanuel is willing to do that much more than DRC was. And so we feel really good about the pick. Hell, yeah, as you should.

Go ahead, AJ. So you drafted Emmanuel last night. Can you let people know, like, how long have you been on this guy how long have you been studying him and watching him and knowing like yeah this guy might look good for us yeah so i observed the team right um i observed our folks and our scouts do it so i don't want to take any credit for it but um what what i've seen them do is they've been they've been on this for months at a time multiple people at their pro day most people watching the film on them going back months back into our college scouting cycle. And in the room yesterday,

it was actually pretty quiet and calm because he was one of our guys all along. We saw the things play out ahead of us. There wasn't a lot of wheeling and dealing. We didn't get need to get names off the board and shuffle because he was one of the people that if he fell to that spot, we were going to take it. Now we always look to trade back and get some value but there weren't any willing partners and so we took our guy right where we were well we're all happy for you we can't wait to see what you do with the rest of the draft now hey now's the time you have been with the commanders for the last

couple years a lot has happened yeah before you joined the commanders the reason why we all thought you were the perfect hire for them is because you were dealing with like pr nightmare crisis situations companies in the corporate world that was literally what you were doing for your business after being an nfl player and you were very prolific at it so becoming the president of the Commanders, at the time the Washington football team, with all the exposes that were coming out, everything that was being said about what was

taking place behind closed doors felt like you were the perfect person to go in there. Now, there is a high probability you were going to fuck it up. I mean, in that situation, there is so many outliers in things happening, including the eyes of the government, every journalist, and billions of dollars at stake.

That's a lot of pressure. You have handled this in the exact same way the entire time. Feels like you're very calm, very confident, and trying to find solutions. You've told us that literally the entire time. Now we have a sale that has taken place. Josh Harris, I believe, is the new owner of the team, even though there was contradicting statements at the time alongside Mitch and Magic Johnson's a part of that whole thing. How active were you in that whole thing? When did you know that was going to take place? Because that's a lot to juggle, especially with the eyes of the entire globe on top of you, Jason. Well, I think juggling things, juggling multiple things has become our sort of core strength here over the last two and a half years. I can argue we've navigated 20 years worth of professional experiences in the last two.

I mean, we had to rebuild a business from the ground up. As much as we knew we were walking into a challenge, this ended up being much worse than we thought. It was a complete rebuild of the business from the ground up. As much as we knew we were walking into a challenge, this ended up being much worse than we thought. It was a complete rebuild of the business from the ground up. We turned over 83% of the entire staff since we've been here, two and a half years. That's not something I ever would have recommended as a consultant. But as you know, on the team, even though in that room there, if you don't have the right people with the right values, think in the right ways that you want them to think that are all aligned along the same vision. Things are going to get effed up real quick. And so we had to have very low tolerance for anybody that was outside of our core values and our way of working. And so we had to turn stuff over and rebuild the business slowly,

but surely. I won't bore you with all the business jargon behind that, but we had to rebuild this place. We had to have real line of sight into how much money we were making. We didn't even really see that. We needed to build up people operations and HR department. We had to do everything from scratch. And then change a name and pursue a new stadium and try to have a championship on the field. That's a lot of things to do at once, but we have got people here. Like you say, we got, we want, you want players that are dogs. We now have people on the business side that are dogs. They're inspired to take on challenges.

They're not scared of it. And so as you look at the sale of a team, which will be the largest transaction of a team of any sports team in history, we type of people that are willing to take on that challenge, transition us into a new era where we've already seen the fans start to come back. The business momentum on the other side of this is going to be real because people weren't wanting to participate with us, whether on the sponsorship side or in suite sales

or even season ticket sales, because of the reputation of the organization. Part of that's losing for too long, and we're getting that right on the field. But part of that is how we proceed, and that's all going to change. And now we have the people here who are ready to absorb what is going to be a record year in business growth for us, and more importantly, allow us to have a home field advantage, to rebuild a home field advantage in our stands, to have support for the players that isn't clouded by anything else. And it's going to be very valuable for the building. Hey, great work. Hell yeah.

Really good. I know you've to be very valuable for the business. Hey, great work. Hell yeah. Really good. I know you've got a team around you. Whatever. If you end up going to another job, that is all going to be a part of your resume and what people are going to judge you for as being the president of an operation that went through everything that you went through

in the way that you did. And seemingly, we're on the other side of it where brighter days are very much ahead. When did, because as we were dancing with the thought of will the team actually go up for sale or will it not go up for sale i believe bank of america was hired to kind of make a sale happen and we're like here we go the team selling then it took a while and nothing was really on the front we're like oh classic snyder yeah he is not he's gonna end up not selling this was just a pr thing to kind of stir the pot and then he's going to move on

when did it become a realization that the team was actually going to be for sale and how long did it take to get a deal done because it feels like NFL teams are a commodity that every uber wealthy human would definitely want to be a part of. That's right there's definitely no shortage of people that want a team especially one

in our market with this history you know many teams don't one championship. We've got five world championships here. There's a legacy here in Burgundy and gold. And people who examine the business saw the change in the business. We went from really a ebbing season ticket member base to number three in attendance growth the last year. We grew in sponsorship despite a negative headline every other week. We still grew 15% year over year. So they see all that and they're like, yeah, I want in on this. But to the question of when did we know? I knew right at the beginning because I think a lot of the rumor mill and intrigue is out. Yeah, it's y'all. It's y'all. And that's your job. It's fine. It's fine. It doesn't. Well, it does bother us, but it's not a big deal.

It's not a big deal. It's not a big deal. But for those of us in the organization, especially those of us who are close to it, we knew right away this was a real thing that was going to result in a transaction. But, you know, there's many, many twists and turns of who it could go to and the timing of it. But we're turning out to be right on time. And I'm arm's length from the transaction. I don't want to overstate my role. You know, I meet with new bidders. I show them where the business is. I give the family office what they need in terms of data so they can get a deal done.

But this is Dan and Tanya running this because it's their personal asset. And they've got to deal with it in the way they want. And we're almost to the end of it. Well, congrats to them. To that point about all the different stuff that you got to manage. This question from D-Bud, I think is a great one. Yeah. And first of all, you look fantastic. Clean look at sports. Appreciate it. Couple of buzz, a little taco meat out. I'm feeling a little.

It's like a spider meeting. Exactly. I didn't know you got that jacket from. But you talk about the pressure, obviously, being the president of a team, largest sale in the NFL. Obviously, it was a lot of pressure on you as a player as well. Have you found any parallels between being a player and now being the president of the commanders? And how did that help prepare you for it? One hundred percent. One hundred percent. And it helped me in my career before this. 100%. 100%. And it helped me in my career before this. But I think there's a few things that you guys understand as players that have allowed us to be successful in one of the most challenging business environments I've been around in the last two years. The one is the ability to have

hyper focus. When you are an NFL player, you have to be extremely focused on what you can control. How many times have we talked about, don't worry about what you can't control, control what you can control, focus on that, do that with excellence and tune out the rest. And the ability to do that for me was honed in the NFL. It was honed in my first year and a half when I got cut nine times and was wondering where my next paycheck was going to come from. It came when, you know, I fumbled away a playoff clinching game and had to deal with the pressure of that and come back with my confidence the next game, right? It comes from all that. And then I, as a leader, am able to translate that down to the team and give us a vision to cut through the bullshit and focus on what matters and allow the business to grow as it has the last couple of years. And Ron's very good at that too on the football side. That's number one. The second is the attention to detail.

on the football side. That's number one. The second is the attention to detail. For me as a running back, AJ, you would pick up on this. If I lined up at seven yards instead of six yards, you'd be like, oh, they're running an inside zone. They're going to run the ball. AJ would know that. He's definitely not going to be a pass player, right? If I cheat my stance up, and you might know that it's a pass player, I got to line up at that six-yard distance, be disciplined, take the right steps, or I'm going to be out of line with the mesh. Attention to detail is what you need in crisis.

You have to be attentive to the details. It is all about execution because in crisis mode, you just have to do the basic things well so that you can take on the messy stuff that can waylay the organization. so that you can take on the messy stuff that can waylay the organization. And so ability to focus, attention to detail, and then building bonds with each other. One of the unique things about the NFL locker room is it's the one place where all people of all stripes come together and build actual, real, meaningful relationships. We fake it in the rest of society. We talk about each other.

We call each other names behind closed doors in the rest of society. We talk about each other. We call each other names behind closed doors in the rest of society. NFL locker room, those friendships are real. White, black, green, yellow, purple, gay, straight, poor, rich, country, city, everybody comes together and builds real bonds. Because we had to rebuild differently and because the challenge in front of us was so difficult, we built a different kind of organization. We have the most diverse leadership team in the NFL. And that's not for performative purposes because I've been tokenized. I don't do the box checking bullshit. It's because it actually allows us to get to better decisions.

It creates camaraderie. It has us match our fans. And we are in a diverse area. our fans and we are in a diverse area. And so we have built a team on the business side. And I would argue on the football side too, that have family as a core value where we treat each other as though we actually have each other's backs, not just colleagues that we work with and that we would throw under the bus if something went wrong. Because if you have people like that, and we had some like that and we had to get rid of them. I even hired some like that, and we had to get rid of them. If you have people like that in crisis, you're going to blow up from the inside.

And thank God we haven't had that and we got the right people here. Hey, Jay, we're all we got. You know what I mean? Exactly. That is like such a, I assume for your world, but that's like a football mantra pretty much. When things go bad, it gets real loud outside the building. Even inside your building that aren't a part of the football operations it gets loud about well it'd be easier to sell

sponsorship this football team was good it'd be easier to sell tickets if this team was good your fans are saying we invest in this team this team stinks and in the locker room you're basically saying hey we are all we got right now in real talk a lot of business sides will let that perpetuate they will let that perpetuate and there's a little bit of what happens in media entertainment. I think you guys are experiencing it too in different ways. There's a little bit of protect yourself culture that exists in sports and music. You're real quick to point out the flaws of somebody else and then just try to duck and hide and don't do anything bold or innovative or thoughtful yourself and be like, oh yeah, look at how they messed up. Go get them. Take them out.

I'm good and comfortable over here. And one thing in our culture, we do not tolerate that. I am much quicker to let go of the person who points the finger and puts blame on somebody else than the person who actually made the mistake. If they made the mistake trying to do the right thing, trying to innovate and do well, I'm going to rock with you. I'm going to take the blame for it. I'll step in front and have your back as a leader of the organization. And then I want you to learn from it and go innovate again. But the person who says, Hey, Hey boss, did you see what they did over there? Shouldn't I have their job? You're gone. Yeah. The person that just wants to experience the success, but is scared to step into the batter's box, judging it The person that just wants to experience the success, but is scared to hit step into the batter's box,

judging it's somebody that just struck out on a curve ball. That's, that's a person you don't need. Cause that person at least stepped into the box. You know, that's it. I mean, we had to change the name of a, of a 90 year old franchise that most of our fans didn't want change. We're going to go in a transition to new ownership after the biggest transaction in sports history. Hey, do you know who's buying it? Are we close? Is that all? Is that thing? We're close. We're going to go in a transition to new ownership after the biggest transaction in sports history. Hey, do you know who's buying it?

Are we close? Is that thing? We're close. I'll keep your name. Me saying anything right now is not helpful, and all I want is for it to be done. So we're just going to keep it. No, give away leverage.

Come on. Give away leverage. AJ has a question for you there, though. Yeah, go ahead, AJ. Whoever the new owner might be, if they plan or they even are allowed to try to change the name again do you know if that's a possibility and also did you get to deal with uh magic johnson at all i know he's been deep into this and making pleas on national television to try to get the day mr dan you know my only interaction with magic was actually a great one

when i first took this job and whenever people ask you who's the most famous person in your phone, I say Magic Johnson. He called me when I first took the job and just encouraged me. And actually, he gave me some advice. He probably doesn't even remember it. He gave me some advice that actually ended up being really true. He said, Jason, in this industry, you don't need to watch out for the obvious adversaries. The obvious challenges will always be there. In this industry, it's often the people close to you who will undermine you, pull the rug out from under you, especially when times get tough. And I absolutely saw that in different ways

over these last two years. And that advice rang true in my head, and I understand it a lot more now. He's a really wise man. I haven't talked to him since, but if he were part of the new ownership group, he would bring immense wisdom to us. That man's been through some stuff and he knows how

to lead healthy organizations. And the team name? Go on. Oh, yeah. That's what it was. Yeah, I was trying to ignore your question. Yeah, I know. It's my job. It was a very inspirational answer. Come on, man. It was a great answer. That was unbelievable. Great answer. Magic remembers that.

I'll say that that. I think there are lots of constraints on changing it that the league has, and that's really mostly a league decision because they decide how often teams can change uniforms and names and all that. It's very structured. I didn't know that. I don't think a lot of us do that. The uniforms and all that stuff

had to be approved by the league. It goes through a league process. But what I would say is this. The core of what we need to do is win a championship. And in order to do that, we need to have a profitable business that can invest in the football side, improve our facilities, go and get a new venue deal done so that we can have a state-of-the-art venue and an entertainment experience for our fans that creates a home field advantage. We've got to absorb the growth in the business and have our season ticket members come rushing back in droves over the next couple years with this ship. That's where our time and attention is best spent. You know, if I'm advising folks, I wouldn't spend time on the name first.

I'm advising folks. I wouldn't spend time on the name first. I would let a whole bunch of other things fall into place, pick our heads up in a few years when we're a healthy, high-functioning championship organization and say, all right, do we still want to discuss it? Hey, Blue Magic. That's right.

You know? That's a brand name. That's a brand name. It's unbelievable. Don't need you cutting it up. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. You know we're talking about that. And that's why you're the coolest president in the NFL. Bostonnor has a question for you about what you just chatted about there i think yeah president right you just mentioned the new stadium and i believe a few months ago there

was actually conversations about possibly getting a piece of land in virginia wherever that is do you guys have plans on building kind of like a jerry world maybe even like a patriots place with not just a stadium with great stuff inside, but kind of build up around it with hotels, casinos, who knows. And is that, yeah, that is the rendering that was released. Is that an accurate depiction of what the stadium might look like? I think the stadium could look a bunch of different ways. That's one rendering I've seen.

I've seen a couple others that have been developed by folks we work with. But new ownership has to have a big role in crafting that vision. But I have had the opportunity to talk to all the folks who have put bids on the team and were in the running. And I do know that they do all align around that vision of it being more than a football stadium, more than just nine games a year or nine games plus six concerts a year, something that is a 24-7, 365 draw. That is retail, hospitality, all that. And before, we were talking a lot about the Atlanta Braves Stadium and the complex that's built around that called the Battery in Atlanta. If you've ever been to

a Braves game recently, they have hotels and restaurants and local businesses and residential local corporate headquarters, a small concert venue that has like 6,000-person concerts called the Roxy. Like they've got a bunch of stuff built in, and that's one of the models that we've been looking at for what we would do. Now, who knows how big it will be, how small it will be, but I know all the different ownership groups do want to build something like that, Bossa. But I know all the different ownership groups do want to build something like that, Boston. Land and taxes where you're at, hilariously expensive.

Excited to see what those prices are that come out for you to build that entire thing. Got a chance to go see Patriot Place up in New England in Boxborough. Awesome. You go to Lambeau. Lambeau, they got it figured out because they don't even have an owner. So they just like vote on decisions. Hey, you want to buy this? Yeah.

You want to make it a museum? Yeah. How much are we going to charge? All of it. They're making, like, what was it, $200 million? Something like that. They're making, like, $200 million, allegedly because their books had to be made public. Which, as a player, now that you're on that side, oh, kind of an interesting.

Yeah, it's tough. Yeah, because the books, you know, every negotiation for the CBA were like, open your books. Like, let's see, you know, you want us to do this entire percentage thing. Let's do it. Green Bay actually had to do that because they're publicly owned, allegedly. You know, Mark Murphy has to do it. $200 million, I think, of real estate around the building. And then you see what Jerry did in Arlington.

Arlington has become just like Dallas Cowboys world. I think that's the only thing that makes sense for the next stadium, right? I think that's right. And it's not just good for the business, and that eventually is good for everybody, including the players, but it's also good for the community. Yes, the fans, everybody. Yeah, exactly. And that's part of

the hat that I wore when I was at my previous firms. I have a background in economic development. And if you're actually going to create sustainable jobs, create living wages in a community, it's got to be more than something that's just there a few days a year and active a few days a year. It's got to be year round and it's got to draw people to it. That's how you, that's how, that's how you get the rising tide that raises all boats for the entire economy and you can let all sorts of businesses participate and that's the inspirational thing that's the power of the nfl honestly like the on the nfl is so much bigger than any other sport it captures

the attention of all of america it's still the one place where people who hate each other in chat rooms have different political ideologies can't talk to one another on social media. But when they come together in our stadium, they still high five and hug each other when Terry McCormick scored a touchdown in Burgundy and gold. It's the it's the one place where that still happens. And so because of that, when we do a development, it can draw everybody. It can impact the whole community at scale. And that's why sometimes the social issues of the day get thrust on the NFL. And we're a poor steward of them. Like we shouldn't be having nuanced political conversations,

but they're going to come our way because this is where everybody is. Well, Jason, we're a better person than you are. Yeah. Don't even try it. If you want to get into political discussion, we're good at this. Hey, Connor, I'm a better person than you are. I bet y'all are. I bet y'all are.

I'm not good at it. Well, we're a better person than you are. That's political conversation, isn't it? There you go. I'm a better person than you. Isn't that y'all are. I bet y'all are. I'm not good at it. Well, we're a better person than you are. That's political conversation, isn't it? I'm a better person than you. Isn't that basically all political convo? It's more than that. At this point, political conversation is, I am right and you are a monster and deserve

to be dead or something. That's basically where we're at. Yeah, we don't love that. But what you said about the locker room in football and the NFL real, but also in the stadiums, it's a real thing. So if you're able to create that more than just at eight home games or six stadiums, and you have that amphitheater idea down in Atlanta, 6,000, that's easy to fill up for a lot of guests, a lot of people.

And if you're bringing the people in, your name is synonymous with celebration and unity and good times. It's great for everything. I hope you guys absolutely crush that entire thing ty has a question for you jay jason obviously you can only control what you can control but you're a human being so you obviously see in the paper hear stuff you know about like the sale of the team how do you effectively and efficiently do your job when you're kind of in this like purgatory where you don't know who your boss is going to be or who you're going to have to report to yeah i mean

it's the same thing you have as an nfl player right you don't know if your coaching staff is going to be there the next year the whole thing might turn over that's on a lot of losing teams i should put it that way you never know you never know you never know what's going to happen the next year. You never know who's going to stick around. But you execute with excellence. You work hard and you stay focused for a few reasons. One, and the most important to me, is just personal integrity. It's the way I was raised. My parents were like, if you're going to do something, you are the best at it. And I've hired people that feel the same. We just got a sense of pride and integrity about our work. So we would never let things slip. We're not going to be looking for the next thing because

something might change. That's just not who we are as people. That's just not our character. So we're going to be on it. The second thing is the best thing you can do to enable a smooth transition, make sure you're going to be around or just set up the franchise for success in the future, which we all care about, is do the job well. Because if you're going to be around or just set up the franchise for success in the future, which we all care about is do the job well, because if you're so distracted by the headlines and trying to position yourself and all of that stuff, you're going to have something up. And that's going to cause things to fall apart. And, you know, you got to stay focused. You got to stay focused. And you learn that as a player. But yeah, of course, you're a human being. But I

think one of my my superpowers is being calm under pressure. I'm, of course, you're a human being. But I think one of my superpowers is being calm under pressure. I'm sort of like a duck on water. I got a lot going on in my head, and I got a lot of activity. I'm always working on something, but you see it below the surface. And on the top, I'll just be real calm, cool, and collected. And I want to do that for our team, and I think that's what the franchise needs. Hey, you're a good executive, pal. That's good stuff. You know, I've gotten a chance to meet some execs now in the world that I'm in and getting a chance to chat with them and meet a lot of the pretty important executives in the world.

Being a human is a massive weapon, a massive weapon in that executive level. It feels like because you're a player, because you've come up the way that you've come up, you've almost aligned yourself to be in a perfect situation for where you are. And to your point, always want to have good film. Doesn't matter who's going to be the coach, who's going to do anything.

I want to put out good film. What is under my record is going to be remembered forever. I assume you're saying that to your entire team. I fucking love you, dude. We've had to bury your team a couple times. We had to. The poop pipes bursting. Had to do it. All these

extra days. Had to do it. Bingo. Had to do it. All these things have happened. We've had to do it. Every time we talk to you and get a chance to watch what's happening behind the scenes, we just have an immense sense of pride. And I think I speak from me, AJ, D-Butt, and players more so than anything, because players getting into that lane, in that avenue, helping that conversation is good for all of us. We hope there's more, but we think you're a fucking alien, pal.

You need to know that. So thank you for doing what you're doing. You guys are too. Shut up, Jay. You need to know that. So thank you for doing what you're doing. You guys are too. And as you know, when you do, but when you do something differently, like folks come at you. And so you have to be prepared to have opposition when you try to do something differently and innovative and unique. That's what we've done here.

We're not afraid of our fair share of real criticism. When it's unwarranted criticism, we'll fight it and we'll push back. But you guys know that. You guys know that same thing. You're not walking anything any different. And the fact that a group of former players and their friends are doing something that's changing the landscape of the media, I'm with y'all too. I rock with y'all too. Hey, man, I appreciate that.

Now, I will say to your point about adversaries and oppositions you know i'm 6-1-2-60 right now you know what i mean i if anybody wants to they can do whatever they need to do you know what i mean i feel pretty good last question here for you jay from tone digs yeah mr president uh while the sale is potentially going on i know there's league meetings here coming up in less than a month i believe uh and there's always that one per club meeting during those league meetings. Is there a chance during this limbo period that you're going to be the one per club in that meeting? Or who would that be while the sale is going on?

I mean, I have been before when I couldn't make meetings. I've been the one in the owner's home. What happens in there? Yeah, hold on, AJ. Great. Good call, AJ. I, unlike many of the people in these meetings, don't actually say a thing outside of the meeting. I still think it's wild how within five minutes of a closed-door meeting stuff is in the press.

But, you know, I actually see what I mean. They're rats, Jason. Sorry. I don't have anything to offer. But, yeah, I mean, I don't think so. I think, you know, Dan and Tanya have continued to stay engaged where we've asked them to on the business. They respond to my calls when I need decisions.

Look, I don't have the money to invest in things we still need to invest in. So it's not coming out of my checkbook. So they're still engaged. So I expect that if there's one final league meeting or more than one final league meeting, that Tanya, who's been representing us in those meetings, probably be there if not i'm happy to represent aj has some questions about the one per club meeting i think yeah is in that one per club i mean i know you're not gonna you know say what goes on there but is it a productive thing do you think it's a good thing you guys continue to do that i think the one per club meeting is where the best conversations and

real business happens um no phones allowed in there? No computers in there? How does it work? No phones. They actually ask you to take no notes. And I think the owners are able to have real conversation with one another unfiltered. And while that can be messy at times,

it's actually very productive because argument and debate can create heat, but it also creates light. And I've seen people in that building really get to solutions on things where people are on opposite sides of things. And most stuff that is contentious and meaningful happens in that meeting. Do you, when you're in there, did you feel as if there's somebody in there that's swinging the biggest hammer in the conversation or is everybody kind of in the same

part it's hard it's hard to say who's the most influential in a room of billionaires that's a tough that's a tough one that's why the one per club meeting is so interesting fascinating it's it's it is a collaborative group honestly at its core um that's and that's a little bit of the beauty of the nfl business model is that your rivals on the field and your business partners off of it. And so, yeah, of course there's debate and contention. But in general, there's a level of collaboration and partnership that is actually pretty remarkable. All right. Take me there. You're wearing this exact thing here. You walk in all by yourself, walk, no nerves at all. Hey, how you doing? How you doing? How we doing? You sit down a signed seat.

How's it work? Yeah. I mean, the signed seats, you sit in the same spot every, every time, you know, we're, we're in between the Cowboys and the bills and across from the bears is where we sit. Big ass round table. It's like a few, it depends on where we're at. Depends on the venue, but yeah. Yeah. It's consistent. It's structured. It depends on the venue.

It's consistent. It's structured. It's a proper business meeting. It's not a soap opera as much as y'all would like it to be. I want to see Jim Irsay up on the table. Brother, I'm sick of it. I tried to buy the guitar. This fucking asshole ran up the office. That's what we think.

That's not happening? That sounds like it is. It was his reaction, maybe. No, no. Let's throw some shit in there, Jay. People say interesting things, but no, there's no drama, no acting, none of that. All right. Well, congrats on all the success.

We can't wait to see the next steps. We're happy you didn't give up any leverage for the team in this big-time sale. And we know that if they want to continue to keep the train on the tracks that they've been on for the last couple years, even though all hell has been breaking loose around the train, you're the guy to keep around. We're very thankful for you. We're proud of you. Ladies and gentlemen, President Jason Wright. Yeah, Jason!

Hey, former player in there. One per club meeting. Let's fucking go. Hell yeah. I've been in a room with about 13 of them, the owners. When they're speaking freely, it's definitely a very, very interesting conversation. What do you mean by that?

You're talking about a bunch of 70-year-olds who have had all the power for a long time? Yeah. And I was in 2017, so this was, you know, had a different president. A lot of things were going on on the field. It was about maybe 10, 11 players. Probably about 12, 13 owners.

Blank, Ross, Craft. Bud. McNair. Bud. Lurie. A lot of the big dogs. Blank. What you wearing?

Did you put a suit on? Did I have a suit on? I don't know. I'm walking in that thing. What did you guys talk about? This is when the protesting and stuff race relations basically just trying to get everybody to stop

kneeling at that point that was that was the whole entire point of that conversation we understand what you guys are trying to do the messaging has been conflicted I'm losing fucking sponsors there's a lot of people that are pissed right now.

The people that are on your guys' side are pissed off because our side, other side's pissed off. I mean, there's just everybody's pissed off. Can we figure this out? And I think there has been some real grounds. You should be proud of yourself for being in that meeting. I think a lot happened. A lot of money. A lot of money. Good stuff that came

out of that. Obviously, you got to follow up and see what's actually happening. But I think the conversation is where it started. And to Jason's point, the NFL is a big entity. A lot of people you can lead and change the minds of other people or how you just treat other individuals and their rights. So I think it was productive. I think the world got better from that.

Oh, for sure. Just like he said, whenever there's disagreements and stuff like that and it can get messy, the conversation, it's like normally that's where progress is made, too. Yeah. Normally that's where people learn about the other side, right? Other side learns about this side. We might not agree on how this whole thing went, but at least going forward, you kind of have the information that we all have. Normally it gets better. It feels like the NFL is just only getting stronger, bigger, and badder

from this whole thing. Hopefully their impact on the world continues to be the same damn thing. Sounds like it is a focal point. I hope that's the case because it's the best league in the world. Yeah, and can you imagine the spot that Jason writes in? Because all the owners have to say, like, hey, can you tell your guy to stop duct-caping his hands and his pockets because he actually has to come and do this for us

so we can get this thing going. Hey, will you tell? Listen, we've tried. he doesn't listen to us will you tell him they've tried to subpoena him for six months and they told us you know how people used to do edward 40 hands that's what he was doing he was walking around with 40s duct taped to his hand saying i can't take the subpoena can't hold me i can't take subpoena can you tell him to untape the 40s off of his hands please so we can subpoena him and move forward me. I can't take subpoena. Can you tell him to untape the 40s off of his hands, please, so we can subpoena him and move forward? Jason Wright's like, I'm just sitting here.

He's my job. That's your guy's job. I work for that guy. That guy's my boss. That's an interesting thing for him to be in. Like right now, how he was talking about the business, his boss is currently the same boss that he's had. But he's got a new boss coming. That was a good question there. But the bad film's a real deal.

He's getting judged for all executive roles. There's a lot of big-time jobs opening up. Another one just opened up a couple days ago at a massive company. Compass or whatever.

It's like those executives, there's always a chance to go... Musical chairs. Boom. There's only a few big brains that can handle those situations.

It's almost like professional athletes. There's only so many spots brains that can handle those situations. It's almost like professional athletes. There's only so many spots, but there's also only so many talent. Succession. And it kind of gets sorted out. Quarterbacks bouncing around. What's that? No, like those executives bouncing around. It's just kind of like Derek Carr Raiders, Derek Carr Saints.

Yeah. And how is he as an executive? He's good. He's a good executive. You know what I mean? He'll get the job done. If he doesn't have an executive, he needs an executive? He's good. He's a good executive. You know what I mean? He'll get the job done. He doesn't have an executive. He needs an executive pretty bad. Matt's in Gojo with his succession,

with how they are kind of picking and prodding from the other company, from Royco. Well, so my biggest issue is that the people that they're putting into executive positions kind of have a nepotism thing, and do they deserve to be in those positions that they're in is my biggest fight because that happens in real life on a regular basis where there's great executives like jason right who's a former player who might not have gotten certain spots because somebody uh fell from the same ball sack or potentially knows a family friend that's in there

so that's why whenever we see like jason right or mattson build up his company and that thing pump for those guys yeah hey fucking go get it You didn't know anybody that got you in there. You know what I mean? You had to earn it in there and your ability got you there. I love that man. It does pain us when we have to say, that organization fucking sucks. That's terrible.

Like you said though, now you just got to win. You can do all the other stuff but if you do all the other stuff great and then you're still going 6-11, like, ultimately no one's going to give a shit. Let's go to the phones here before we wrap up Hour 2. AJ, we should go visit that guy sometime, I think. I would love to.

Yeah, he is super impressive. I actually played against him when he was at Northwestern. I think he's a couple years older than me. What'd you do, try to knock him out with the crowning helmet? I saw him right when I was looking at him. I'm like, first first off he looks like he could still play and then you see the the shape of his head and the size and i remember yeah that dude was a monster to take down i love the fact that aj's first thing he's like some people look at shoes first sure some people look at how they're dressed you know some people see like a little bit of a slob okay we can judge a little bit here on

them when they meet him aj's first thing, what are the dims on that dome? Man, dims. What's this you're calling for? Dimensions. AJ, welcome to the show. I know. That's what I'm saying. I still can't get over it.

I'm still never going to get used to that. I'll tell you what, when a guy dropped it in my life here, what, two months ago at this point, I was like, damn, never saying the word dimensions ever again. I would you. But I do like that you look at a guy and go, hey, what's the dims on this guy's dome? If we had to go bull in the ring right now, who is going to win? Probably going to be me. They get, they get.

How's the dims on D-Bud's dome? I don't know. D-Bud, trust me, I watched D-Bud kill some people. Yeah, and then he would get knocked out. He'd say, oh, it's a stinger. Those are my favorite players, especially safeties I play with that would knock themselves out and knock the receiver out. Got to get knocked out. He'd say, oh, it's a stinger. Those are my favorite players, especially safeties I play with that would knock themselves out and knock the receiver out. Got to get up first.

You're a soldier. He's only 142 pounds, so give him a break. Yeah, dude, he weighed – so the whole scale thing, this scale has got to be the worst scale. There's no way you're 260. You're not 260, are you? AJ, welcome to the fucking show, pal. Okay?

Welcome to the show. I watched during the commercial thing where you got weighed in at 263 that's what i'm saying though but look at the guy bro what do you think that is huh just i mean yeah you're all your lower body weight 200 pounds apparently he's properly jacked properly properly that's great if you you carry 260 very well i wouldn't have guessed that thank you aq was 222 the first time 222 out here, and then he was 310 next time. Oh, okay. What does that scale do?

It was the most expensive one at the store. Hey, get a 45-pound plate and put it on there and see what it weighs. Boom! Damn it! We should have thought of that last time. Why did we not do that? Well, the problem was Bill stepped on it first and broke all the circuitry inside. He was too heavy for it, And they just gave improper readings.

Bill, I don't believe that. Bill, once again, you're getting thrown under the scale here for no reason at all. Actually, he has scales because there's certain things in the mail service. You can't mail over five pounds, so he cuts all his body parts under five pounds and then mails them. That's not true. This is new Bill. This is B and b oi oi oi b and b oi oi oi it's brand new bill and i would like everybody to act accordingly bill's been walking around here properly jock he's properly jock dude i came in here the other morning and i heard the treadmill going max speed

it sounded like yeah and then i heard and then i heard feet this dude was running gassers on this fucking treadmill in here like while jerking 7 30 a.m 7 45 he's curling he's curling while he's running two kettlebells that was a jerk in it no that was his feet trying to keep up with the treadmill we've all heard that like this this guy's face was running faster than his legs were on the treadmill in here. My first thought was, gonna get sued. This guy's gonna get kicked off this treadmill. And then I asked him, he goes, a minute 30

on, a minute 30 off, just running full sprints. I think he's going to do them right now. He's a fucking dog, dude. This is BNB. He still owns the record. He's gonna go away the plate. Huh? Smart. He's going to weigh the plate. Now, granted, Bill, I do wish that your toxic brain would have thought of the same thing that Toxic AJ thought of last night.

That would have been great. How did we miss that? That's a good question. This is an embarrassment. We were on here for a long time. I don't know how everybody's brain was operating. He's going to weigh it on a different surface than you guys weighed in. Yeah, Bill, the floor matters.

Come on, Bill. Get in the kitchen. Let's go to the 5RNG phone line. Let's go to weigh it on a different surface than you guys weighed in. Yeah, Bill, the floor matters. Come on, Bill. Get in the kitchen. Let's go to the 5RNG phone line. Let's go to Dan in Iowa. Dan, what's going on, pal? Hey, Pat and the boys. I just want to say I appreciate you guys. Thanks for, I think it was your wife said,

providing us a mental vacation throughout the day. Just love you guys. Dan, we love you too, man. Love you, Dan. Love you, Dan. All right, boys. Just wanted to say thank you. All right.

What part of Iowa, Dan? Northwest Iowa. Yeah, we farm, of course. Surprise, surprise. I love that. Price is price. What are you farming, Dan? Corn.

Corn and soybeans, yep. What type of seeds are we using? What type of seeds are we farming, Dan? Corn Corn and soybeans, yep What type of seeds are we using? What type of seeds are we using, pal? What do we got going on over there? Is Bill Gates trying to get your land? You know, a lot of that is false He's bought some land up in the Dakotas and whatnot But I think it's a good concern

I don't want that nerd owning our ground Oh! I like that and whatnot, but I think it's a good concern. I don't want that nerd to own an art gallery. I like that. Obviously, that is exactly what AJ wanted from you, Dan, so thank you for showing up for him there. What type of seed do you use? Because I heard another Iowa product. What's that thing that kills?

Pest side? Roundup? Roundup. Don't win, Gacy. Roundup. Roundup is from Iowa. And I heard now that there's seeds that are made that are anti-Roundup due to that. But then there's a whole lawsuit that's taking place around somebody's seeds getting on somebody else's land.

Okay, so the Roundup thing has been around for like 25, 30 years. Okay. And it's all bullshit. That's all California made up. A bunch of lawyers got together and, hey, we're going to start making money off convincing, you know, a jury that Roundup is bad. We still use Roundup. Roundup's used all over the U.S. Okay. And to be quite honest, if any of these people give a shit about world hunger,

they would kind of lay off the whole anti-GMO, the anti-roundup, all that crap. And, you know, they're not the ones that'll be starving. It's these poor kids in Africa and people that

they don't have to see. That's who will starve if we buckle in and go, you know, non-GMO and all green hey but i heard that gmo shit's terrible for me isn't it the pesticides and all that isn't it terrible for me no pat most of that is uh is it's feed grains that we're feeding to livestock and to think that somehow that's transferring through the plant

and then 15 months later it's being fed through a calf or a hog somehow is going to make it through to you. It's just ridiculous. It's just the same old crap. All right, Dan, we appreciate the hell out of you. Sorry we had a mental vacation go and then we drove you right back into the hell. We appreciate the hell out of you, Dan we didn't. We had a mental vacation go, and then we drove you right back into the hell. We appreciate the hell out of you, Dan. Hell yeah, Dan.

I fucking love that guy. What a legend. How about Dan just like, I'm about sick of them fucking with our shit. Yeah. Okay? It's crap. You ever been here? No.

Do you have any idea about this? No, you don't. Please do not speak about it anymore. Cause kids in Africa to starve. They rotate. They rotate the corn and the soy each year, correct? Well, it's got to be knee-high about 4th of July. That's right.

But if you do corn one year, you've got to do soy the next year. That is correct. Same thing with soil. Yep, soil. So I'm just going to surprise nobody. I obviously know some farmers. Obviously. I do think my Rolodex might be one of the widest in history

of humans that I've just happened to be high around and just ask 45 minutes worth of questions. And then we just kind of get along there. That seed conversation with the roundup thing, massive ordeal. We're talking like hours on the field to do stuff that other things weren't able to do. And then there was like some lawsuit about some of these seeds were blown into somebody else's field. That field though, owned by somebody with special interest to your point not that whole

thing which then added into a full it became a big thing and farmers they don't want to deal with the now some this is me most they don't want to deal with all the bullshit yeah so like when a narrative is getting built outside of their world they don't even know that it's getting built until it's like boom now we got all answer all these questions or change completely. It's like the farmers have really been, I don't want to be, I don't want to say like stuck in the middle of some shit, but there's some shit popping off with our farmers, I think, that they've been caught right in the middle of.

And they're just trying to do what they've been doing for like five, 10 generations or whatever. It's a wild time right now in the farming world. Yeah, I would take a bullet for that guy dan i don't know where he lives in northwest iowa but that's an iowa and i can fucking get behind behind of and be proud of i love dan you guys don't even say cities out there well that's what i was trying i mean northwestern from iowa you know you pick and prod a little bit because i yeah but but same deal like there are fucking so many cities in northwest like he he might be from a town Iowa, you know you're picking Pratt a little bit. But same deal. There are fucking so many cities in Northwest Iowa.

He might be from a town of 400 people. Yeah, and they all used to have jobs until they started putting regulations. That's exactly right. Let's go to a break. Hour three. We'll be on the other side. Shout out to Dan. Shout out to everybody that listens, man.

Hell yeah. We appreciate you. Honestly. Genuinely. Yes. Thank you so much. Genuinely. Yes. Thank you so much. Very grateful. Yeah.

Why was Jason Wright going in that bullshit? Then Rich Eisen yesterday. I'm about sick of these people coming on the show. We're talking to you. Yeah. We don't need you

telling us anything nice. Save it. We say the nice stuff around here. Yeah. Get off our air. Yeah. Punks.

It's crap. It is crap. I don't want to swear. Yeah. But it's bull. Punks. It's crop. It is crop. I don't want to swear. Yeah. But it's bull. I almost said a cuss word. Chris Ballard, not happy. Not happy at all. Alright, we'll cover some draft stuff. Big shout out to Jason Wright.

Some storylines. Where's D-Hop going to go? Sounds like nowhere. Veach was kind of like... We talked to Brett Veach last night after he made his pick at 1.45 a.m. Eastern Standard Time last night. We actually wrapped up the show, and then

we heard he wanted to still come on. We're like, have to talk to the Super Bowl. He's a guy. I love that man. He had a great draft. He brings in King Felix. And then we ask him about weapons, and he starts talking about all the draft picks he still has and what they were going to do. They were thinking about taking a weapon in the first round.

Then, obviously, with the way the board fell, we had to trust our board. They take King, Felix, Enodike, Uzama out of Kansas State, clearly, right down the road there. Thank you. Had them on the wrong team on game day. We actually talked to him about that last night. But they might be in for another weapon. Oh, yeah.

Is D-Hop that weapon? Before we get to our next guest, AJ, there was a lot of question marks on whether or not the scale that we used yesterday was accurate. So AJ Hawk mentioned something that was brilliant. He said, why don't you go get a 45-pound plate, put it on the scale, you'll immediately be able to tell how big of a difference it was. So Bill McComas, always on top of things went and did that he's incredibly nice shoes standing there awkwardly around as if he's taking a p 44.6 pounds aj i'm fucking 260 bro okay hell yeah it's awesome good for you you should try to get up to 300 it should it's exactly what i said ty

ty actually said ty so whenever that wake i put on the way uh on the scale we looked at it we're like damn that thing's accurate okay seems like the scale is accurate i did have cowboy boots on and they were came in crocs so they're a little bit heavy sure so let's go ahead and knock a couple pounds off had to watch on i was holding the phone the whole thing i'm like 255 though probably 256 and ty said you need to just go ahead and put on another 45 you need to be 300 pounds yeah just properly jocked properly did you imagine me walking around a 300 oh my god my knees would be so pissed yeah my knees would be so mad i need to lose some weight i think why don't you feel good i do i feel great i feel good you feel good? I do. I feel great.

You look good. Who cares? Who cares what the scale says? I've always said I have heavy organs, but I'm a fucking three technique right now, bro. Hell yeah. 260 in the NFL? Maybe in high school. Maybe a high school three. What's Aaron Donald? 285. He's pretty lean.

What was Robert Mathis? 240. I used to weigh in near him. Every once in a while, I'd weigh in heavier than him, and he would just go sloth. He'd walk by me or whatever. Nolan Smith, Will Anderson, you're past them. I've always said I have heavy organs. I think that's the case, always been.

Dense, very dense. I don't think I've ever been at this weight, though, without just my neck and my face just being one blob. So you're saying property. You know what I mean? That's why you're properly jogged. That's normally how I judge how heavy I probably am. Yeah.

Okay, under 225, I can dunk. I know that. So that's normally when I'm there. Over 235, neck gets massive. I don't know what's going on here. This is a weird time. Feels like I should maybe make a run for it and get in shape. If you didn't go for 300, that'd be crop. would it be crop that's just crop no i don't i don't

think it'd be crop at all it'd be very real you gotta know you gotta go for 300 i'm saying if you didn't go for 300 be crop oh you're saying i should go for 300 because if i don't big crop that's crap oh so you go for 240 wow 235's a friend. That's a friend right there. You asshole. You want me to die. Darius is like, Pat, maybe cut 15 pounds. I didn't say stay there. I didn't say stay at 300. I said get up there so you can be like, yeah, I was a 300 pounder at one point.

Three bills. It ain't that fun. I was at 270 at one point. Zito, you're easy. Zito. What? Zito. Don't do that to yourself.

Come on. Joining us now is a man who hasn't cracked 160 ever in his life. Used to be a crew member in college, a wrestler in high school. Now he's the senior insider for the league, the league's network, the league's website, and the league's streaming service, NFL Plus. Host of the Insiders and the weekly wrap-up with Rap Sheet and Friends. He's been in Kansas City, the site of the draft, for the last four weeks. Probably boozed up, but certainly in the know.

Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rapoport. Hey, Rap C! How are you, pal? What's up? I might crack 160 now. I went to Joe's KC, had a big tub of burnt ends, had a Z-man. It was amazing. And I think I might be over that 160 mark.

And what are you? Now, this seems like such a hilarious way to start a conversation with an insider who's at the draft with a lot of draft stories, and we will certainly get to all of those. But we were just talking about weight. I just learned that I'm like 255 pounds right now. Just learned it. Literally just moments ago. Thought the scale was maybe off 15 20 pounds maybe i'll be 240 it's pretty spot on so

i'm properly jocked right now i'm a fucking big guy right now okay you i said probably never cracked 160 that's because you're always in such good shape yeah hell yeah what are you, 135, 140? No, I am. So when the season starts, I'm like one, I would say 54. And then by the time the season ends, I'm like 163. Even though I exercise every day. And now I'm trying to work my way back. Okay, so. Actually, I think 158, 159 is a proper derby red carpet looking spot. Oh, yeah.

And now you have a horse in there, so you're going to gain at least 10 pounds day of the race, we assume, from all the either nervous drinking or celebratory boozing. I could maybe work at a state fair. 160, I said to this fucking guy. I've seen him how many times?

Two times? Yeah, that's it. I'm a state fair corny guy. Step up. Let me know your weight. I feel pretty good about that. Okay. I win those all the time, by the it. I'm a State Fair Corny guy. Step up. Let me know your win. I feel pretty good about that. Okay. I win those all the time, by the way.

Really? Because of what we just learned. Oh, yeah. You dominate that. Are you also good at the, like, how many M&Ms are in the jar thing? No, I am properly terrible at that. That was our giveaway last year for our Draft Spectacular, just a jar of peanut M&Ms.

Remember, there was a little bit of water in the bucket. So it melted like seven, eight of them together. Yeah. So then we had to do like a full. This one. What does it count as? Because it was a giveaway. I'm terrible at that one.

I'm not great. Last night's giveaway was the poundage of four people. Myself, AQ, Darius, and Pac-Man Jones. It ended up being 942 pounds, which Connor guessed immediately upon hearing about the contest. Let's move on to the draft. We were live for five hours last night. You were, I assume, the same exact thing. Will Levis still hasn't been drafted.

There's obviously rounds two and three tonight. He's probably still in Kansas City. What are you hearing about Will Levis? And was that all just media-driven, I guess, not team-driven, about him being top five? He was minus 1,500 to go top five, which is basically a given. That's a mortal lock. Yes.

Pretty much minus 1,500. He's still available. What happened and what do you think is going to happen? And who is that? She sounds awesome. Bare Naked Ladies. Yeah, I mean, I missed because i was at joe's kissy i missed the molly crew sound check uh but i'll be going to the concert later from our set right here because they're going to be literally right behind us i don't know in this station he seems to love talking when i'm either

talking on your show or on whatever oh sounds like you got a little heat with this i mean it's just i mean, Eisen was worse yesterday. He kept mentioning how loud the house fan was. I was dealing with the outside noise as well. Eisen's always there's something. What are we doing? Yeah. Can we, Eisen was on the show yesterday

and we, Tone actually asked him, hey, about the fuckeries that happened during the draft. How do you feel about it? And he was like, this is the kid's moment. And he's done it. This moment is when Rich Eisen almost flipped the set and almost quit the NFL. I will never forget it.

It was awesome. I will never forget it. Yeah, but that's a part of the gem of the NFL draft. But let's talk about Will Levis. Are you going to talk about him right now? No, no. So let's talk about Will Levis. I do not think it was media-driven that he was a potential first-rounder.

I do not think it was bogus that he was a potential top-five pick. I do know the Colts liked him a lot. Chris Ballard liked him a lot. But we've known that Shane Steichen was a guy who helped turn Jalen Hurts into Jalen Hurts. The match, skill-set-wise, with Anthony Richardson is not perfect, but there's obviously a lot to like there. I think based on that alone, I felt Richardson was a pretty good pick there,

but I didn't know for sure. But here was the problem, and this is something that I know Will Levis knew going into last night. If he was not picked at four, he was going to be a long wait. I kept going up and down the first round and I'm looking at the spots and I'm like, Bucs, he's not going to. Lions, no chance. Vikings, did not

think that was in the mix. Everyone else has a quarterback. And so I knew it was going to be a long once you got to four. I just didn't know it was going to be all the way. And I also think he is not, I do not believe he'll be back in the green room tonight. Good.

He shouldn't have been there last night. Already confirmed he is not going back. Okay, good. Congrats to him. Bad advice last night from whoever. You only bring one suit. Think about it. You only bring one suit.

He didn't get a second one made, I'm guessing. No. You can change the shirt. Change the shirt and tie it. It looks like a new suit. Don't be a scumbag, Ian, okay? Could. Do the people that are watching at least a little bit of favor of respect

I would never do that Yeah I wear the same four sport coats Everywhere all day everything That's all I got I got one tailored one that used to be my wedding And court suit it turned into And then and funeral And then one other one

That's just been old faithful since like high school And that is pretty much all I got. I need to mature. But to your point, there's no way anybody prepares to go to night two after night one. Who was there at Nashville? Drew Locke. Yeah, Drew Locke.

Drew Locke was still there the second night or whatever. Do you know Smith today? I actually felt like a similar situation with Drew Locke. I remember talking. He's got the same age in CAA like Will Levison and Jimmy Sexton is one of the guys who represents along with Ed Berry and do a really good job of figuring out like where's the guy gonna go and going in I knew there were if it wasn't Colts there was not another place and I felt the same with Drew Locke

of like you know he doesn't go in the top ten, he just might not go. And it sucks, and you've got to feel for Will Levis. But, like, with quarterbacks, there's just not a lot of – it's like musical chairs, there's not a lot of chairs. Yeah, it sucks. We hope he goes to a team and has great success. I am thrilled we took Anthony Richardson. Go ahead, AJ, your question for Rep.

Ian, what was your biggest surprise from the first round? And also, what can we expect from these following rounds coming up? Any fireworks? Any vets included in trades or anything going on? Okay, so we'll get to the last part first.

When a team takes a starter at a position where there's only one, you start to say, well, could there be a trade? I think DeAndre Swift is someone I would wonder about. The Lions took a starting running back in Jameer Gibbs. I knew they loved him. I did not know they loved him at 12. I thought it would be at 20, but if you like him, I'd just take him.

So I do wonder if teams now see that and go, okay, I wonder if we could potentially trade for DeAndre Swift, who is a dual threat and is a really good player. I think that would be an interesting one to watch today. The surprise, so, you know, you guys know I felt pretty confident about C.J. Stroud going. Yeah, but we, hey, wait, hey, Ian, we will bring up, through all the different media speculation and narratives,

you were always Texans are taking a quarterback, Texans are taking C quarterback texans are taking cj stroud because you said when push comes to shove this team needs a quarterback and cj stroud has been clearly the second best quarterback in this class since the beginning they're going to do it you hey you stood in the face of some criticism some people were taking shots at your shins saying ian rappaport doesn't know anybody obviously in any building you got that one right daniel not as right as daniel jeremiah no but you did get that one right and you have had it right i appreciate that but here's so and i was so he gets picked and i'm like all right nailed that one like feeling really good about myself and what i also knew is once he was picked at two the trade market evaporated three

so i'm like all right cool so if you go to two paris johnson goes three of the cardinals which i knew was gonna happen everything is fine and then i get a text and the text says trade with texas and like i look at it and i kind of go back to my computer and i'm like wait a minute and i literally have to look back and go trade with Texans. Like is the trade done? Are they come? And it was like, yes, it is done. And it even surprised me.

And I was like, you know, trying to wave our producer, like get me on, get me on, like this trade is happening. But I, even though our guy Daniel Jeremiah did it in his mock draft, it was still like stunning in the moment. Like, and I thought, you know, Nick Casario did a really, really nice job. Like he got two of the best players. That was, that was stunning for me. Oh yeah. A lot of momentum. And we talked to Daniel Jeremiah yesterday and we said, if this happens in six hours from now, that'll be electrifying.

And then we were all taking him back too, because I think it's came out to Paris was going there or something like that or was already picked yeah and then it was like no houston texans traded to three again zito saying it in my in my ear back there and i'm like thinking to myself daniel jeremiah's mock holy shit no way they do this they change the momentum of the entire night for them yeah now there's obviously going to be naysayers who say you gave away a first rounder of the future for this to make this move did Did you really need it? It's like, if Will and CJ go on to carry both sides of that ball to successful

football, who gives a fuck what you gave up in the future to make that happen? And they're picking number two overall for a reason, just like the Colts are picking number four overall for a reason. It's time to make a change, and your fans will appreciate it. I think the Texans will be pumped. schmidt has a question for you in rap sheet along the same

lines as levis with like whether it's media driven or what the case is like what happened with the tight ends leading up to the draft everyone who does mock drafts and you know all these insiders were saying that this is the deepest tight end class we've had in a really long time we thought maybe three or four guys were going to get taken and then the first one wasn't dalton kinkade until what 24 26 like what the hell happened there why why weren't four tight ends taken in the first round so that is that's a good question and i would say the media stuff was all right it is a very very deep tight end class the problem is when you when your team like tight end is not You know, it's not edge rusher. It's not corner. It's really not quarterback. It's not a like with all due respect to

Belichick and his friends It's not a premium premium position. So if you're like, all right, I like this guy in round one I like this other these other three guys almost as good like I'll just wait and take them in round two and three I think a lot of that happened where it's like, you know what I I can just wait so because I was like not because the media but because everyone knew the pattern class was so deep It actually artificially drops everyone else down supply to me. You can just be patient Supply the man who's classic business? Mendoza, but, whenever a market is good, that's good for the position

because they're going to go earlier. Instead, this one seemingly pushed it back to the second round. Kind of sucks for the tight ends. Yeah. Kind of sucks that it didn't go the other way because, like, when wide receivers were a plethora over the last couple years, they're all going. Top ten.

And earlier because everybody else is going. So, if a run on tight end starts earlier in the night, more tight ends probably go we think, right? We saw it with the receivers last night. First one went and then it was like, alright this has got to be a run on receivers and then it was like Ravens, Vikings

Giants didn't but who was the Chargers? Chargers with Quentin Johnston. Once one went, it was like, alright, this has got to be a run on receivers. And the tight end that got picked, Dalton Kincaid, we were told directly from Brandon Bean,

he's a wide receiver. That's pretty much what he told us. He said, yeah, he's certainly a tight end, I guess, but we're going to see more of the F, I think is what he said. He's basically Cole Beasley, right? He's a slot receiver, a figure. He's much bigger, yeah.

They're both white, right? Yeah, they're both white. This Kinkade rap? You don't see that? He's from Utah. I doubt he rapped. What's your deal? So you don't see that other one, but then that one you do see.

Oh my God. Sorry, rap. Jeez. Oh God. I had no idea what we were talking to. Tone has a question for you, rap.

Hey, and let's start the draft tonight at number 32, the Pittsburgh Steelers here in that there is a lot of calls happening to Omar Khan and Mike Tomlin at number 32. Is there a chance that they stick and pick? Is there a chance that someone comes up to get Levis? What are they asking? What's going on at 32 to start tonight?

So draft, as we've expertly detailed over the last month, draft predictions are impossible. But I would say this. I would be surprised if someone traded up to 32 to Levis because if you like him that much, you would have done it at like 29, 30, 31 to get the figure off. But that – Like it makes – Bean and Veach both said that they were getting calls for –

and Eagles said they were getting calls for teams to come up. But was that not for Levis then, do you think? And the Saints were too. I think they all were i just based on the teams and so like atlanta tennessee chicago like there were a lot of teams who were rams a lot of teams who were calling up like maybe the titans for a quarterback but i would be surprised if the rest wouldn't work so i imagine that was probably other positions. Okay. Do you think 32 gets traded, though, inevitably? I kind of think so, yeah. And, you know, for the Steelers, I mean, I don't know who they're going to take,

but I know that Joey Porter Jr. would be fun and would make a lot of sense. I'm not sure you have to take him at 32, so maybe they slide back. I'm not sure they'll take. We'll see. But just pure fun, that would be a pretty good move. Yeah, I think so, too. The city of Pittsburgh would love it. They also love that a tackle was brought in.

That's the first offensive lineman or tackle that's been drafted there a long time. I would say it's DeCastro off the top of my head. If I had to take DeCastro and Pouncey, we're first-rounders, I believe. That's interior, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tackles, I can't. No, yeah, you're right. I don't think a tackle's been drafted by Pittsburgh in, like,

for a long, long, long, long, long, long time. So, Kenny Pickett, you think he's a guy? You give him some protection? Good play. If you're able to get a generational Joey Porter Jr., here we go. Pittsburgh's happy. Matt Canada, offense coordinator, though. That's right. You're going to have to learn how to call plays in the men's team.

True. Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Rapshie, Will Love is not the only quarterback that didn't go in the first round that we all kind of were convinced that would. Hendon Hooker, is he almost above Will Levis now? Like if a team was going to draft a QB, you mentioned the Titans, would they take Hooker over Levis? Yeah, I do wonder about that.

And it's not impossible. Because I think for Levis, maybe it's not quite for everyone. I think Henning Hooker doing the draft process, like had he not had a torn ACL, I'm pretty sure it would have gone somewhere in the first round. So, you know, even though Levis was in play at four and even though that was real,

if Hooker went ahead of him today, tonight, I wouldn't... That makes sense. There would be some teams like... I don't know what Tennessee's going to do, but let's say they look at quarterbacks like hometown kid, great character, would have been a first rounder with NACL. Got a year with Tannehill,

you're paying him $36 million? Was that stuff with Levis true about him during the interviews? Because that all kind of came out. Yeah, after. That came out after the first round. And his toe. What was it?

Yeah, it was his tone. He was kind of not. What was it? There was his toe, but then, yeah, it was the. Yeah, he was, like, entitled in interviews. That was on the, there was some tweets. People were trying to project, I think, why what happened last night was happening. Minus $1,500 is a mortal lock to go in the top five.

I know we talk about it. And how would we not know that? We found out about a fake S2 score from C.J. Stroud. If there was something that seems to be legit that dropped him way out there, way out, second-round drafted quarterbacks have had it. He was never up there. Ever? Had to. I saw there was a quote from a GM today

that that was all media driven and he's actually getting drafted based on his tape. I do not think that's true because if you look at his tape from last year, the 2021 season, he's a lock first rounder. So like,

I've been talking to a lot of... Holy shit. Ian, you watching tape? I'm not watching tape. I talk to other people who watch tape. Oh, who are they? Who are they? We need to know. I think that's a big part of this whole thing. A lot of general managers and coordinators and head coaches.

Oh! Oh! So the decision makers you just said. No, but I think the conversation was like, oh, Will Levis is going up the draft board. And then C.J. Stroud was all this stuff. Yeah, just complete horseshit. Why is that the storyline?

Like, why is that what we're talking about? I have no idea. Was there something about Will Levis that maybe we did not hear about publicly before the draft? Was there anything? We know bananas with the peel, coffee with mayo. He's properly jogged. He's jogged up. Probably jogged.

Didn't have a good O-line. Didn't win. There's a lot of things coming out about him. Didn't want to play in the bowl. Yeah, didn't want to play in the bowl. There was a lot of that. Probably wasn't coached well last year. So, by the way, I think the banana thing is fake.

Stoops? I think the banana thing is fake.ops i think the man did we know that no we don't know he's on video banana right yeah he looks real bad too probably i think it's fake anyway um so here's the problem with what was it like uh will levitz is very intense okay he takes it very seriously he is extremely intense and so did that rub people the wrong way? Maybe. Very good quarterbacks are very intense. Like I say this all the time. These are not normal people.

So I don't know the difference between someone who's like too intense or someone who wants to win insanely badly and would do literally everything to do it. And in the end, Will Levis, whatever mentality he has, of just like wanting it very bad and wanting everything to be perfect, that might lead him to be a great football player. But we don't know. Hell yeah.

So he was – That's horse shit. He tries too hard. Yeah, what? He cares too much. You mean like he's part of the Gus Farratt route tree where he got him mad and headbutted the wall? So you're telling me that guys like Rogers and Brady even can't sit down

and have a normal conversation with the GM without them being like, this guy's a fucking weirdo. Jesus Christ, turn it off. You can be intense on the football field and know how to act like a human being around someone who's going to potentially draft you. That's horseshit. That sounds weird. That sounds like a weird story that we should have heard about, shouldn't we?

Shouldn't we have heard about that? But the problem is, and I don't know, like, I just know that he is intense. I don't know how much that, like, turned off people, you know? It's just what we do now is we try to figure out, like, how did this happen? Right? I just want to fucking win! We're going to win. Was he doing that when people were interviewing him?

Gee, that's bullshit. Hey, if you were a kitchen utensil, what would have happened? A fucking four-night binder! Hey, but if you're a dog, that motherfucker can still get drafted, though. He's still getting drafted. How if you're still that guy, you're going to draft him? Plenty of weirdos been drafted in the fucking top five, top ten. What was it, you, Tensel?

A knife through your fucking throat, brother. What if he came at him? That's such good. That was so fast. Taylor. That was so fast. All right. This show sucks.

I like how the what utensil would you be is the normal part of that conversation. That's a totally fine question. It's the answer that's me. No, no, no. The answer was perfect. I don't think I've ever heard a more perfect answer at a time from somebody. You should have seen his performance last night, Ian. I don't know if you got

to see it. Mad Mel last night had a five hour performance that was remarkable. Rap, remarkable. I will have to. I T-voted and I'll have to go back and watch watch. Shut up.

You can't do that, asshole. All right. Last question here from the lovely Darius Butler. This one's a big topic that didn't get enough conversation. Yeah, we'll stick with the quarterbacks. Lamar Jackson, obviously his deal came together. Would have been the biggest news if it wasn't draft night. How did that come together?

How quickly? And is there any momentum with the next guy, Burrow, Herbert, Tua? What? Okay. together how quickly and uh is there any momentum with the next guy burrow herbert to uh what uh okay so this one as soon as jalen hurts got done um the word was that the ravens were going to basically take that deal it's like the deal that they offered lamar in which we obviously talked about was basically better almost as good as j Dale and Hershey's deal in some places, but better in others. The Ravens were like, all right, this sets the market pretty good. We're going to take this deal and we're going to offer a better deal in all metrics and basically give him an offer that he can't refuse and really hope he takes it. So I thought this was going to happen after the draft. So I was kind of ready for it but like not yesterday i was

knew it was coming eventually and then yesterday all these rumors started flying and it was like something good is going to happen to baltimore's like oh my god i think the mars getting done and then it was like a mad scramble and he did get done he deserves every penny of it it is 52 million dollars a year 185 million dollars total guarantees, and he's the highest paid quarterback in the NFL, like he should be, and we are now going to have to find a new topic to talk about, which is really just amazing in itself. Well, is it Herbert or

Burrow to the follow-up? Who do you think? I mean, I think it's going to be a race to see who goes last, because the last will probably make the most. Burrow should clearly make the most there, right? Yeah, for sure. Bar none. Knowing his agent, he probably will wait to be the last. I think that's probably a pretty good assumption.

But also with the way since he's going to have to structure that, is there a max on how long the deal can be? Hockey has like a 10-year max. The NFL gave... Patrick Williams got a 10-year deal. Can they give a 15-year deal so they can kick all the shit down the road and say, we'll guarantee you $750 million

over the next 15 years so the business side of it can get figured out? Well, you can only prorate a signing bonus five years. Even if you do a 10-year deal, which he would never years. So even if you do a 10-year deal, which he would never accept, but even if you do a 10-year deal, accounting-wise, it only kind of matters for the first five just as far as spreading out the signing bonus.

So it had to start on year six. Is that why Patrick Mahomes' deal has been able to be so salary cap friendly for these first couple years? And who was that? You really lit up. Was that O? No, it was just some fans out, sitting with some fans out there. I'm trying to want to be nice to the people. I'm like, shush that guy the other day. So, yeah, you told him.

Yeah, it was ridiculous. Shut up. Shut, shut, shut. Shut your face. Hey, by the way, did the plants look good last night? Yeah, they did. We didn't really see them. But then you actually went like this.

You were like, can you do this with your hand to shush somebody? No, you can't because the calluses on there are too big. That means you can't talk around me. Is that what you did, Ian? That's what you did. That was disgusting. It was absolutely disgusting what you did. Anyway, so the proration of the signing bonus can only go five years

because Jalen Hurts' deal very salary cap friendly. Patrick Mahomes' deal, very salary cap friendly. Patrick Mahomes' deal, very salary cap friendly. Patrick Mahomes signed a 10-year deal, so that thing's just kicked down the road. Then they'll have to renegotiate that at six years and redo the whole thing? Yeah, and I would say, you know, I don't know about team friendly because there's a lot of players who like that too, but the team can build around them because there's a lot of guarantees,

but there's not a lot of early cash flow. I think that's why the Chiefs are able to build around the home so well. And, yeah, I would expect them to take a look at his contract as well, you know, because the other guys are making so much. I mean, I think Kansas City even realized, like, we've got to probably fix this. So I would expect that to happen this offseason. All right.

We appreciate the hell out of you, Rep. Good luck out there. Are you on TV today or no? Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm on TV in the afternoon, and it's me and Schrager hanging out in the second and third round. Oh, tone, tone, tone. How'd the mock drafts go?

Daniel Jeremiah came in first. Outright clear winner of last night. Charles Davis. I believe it was DJ, McShay, then Chuck Davis, and then Kuyper, and I can't remember who the other was. And Schrager? Oh, Schrags was the other one. Schrager came in fifth out of a six-horse race.

You know Horson. I'll have to bring that up tonight. I'm sure he'll be real happy to. He won last year, though. He won last year. He was the best last year. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah.

So this year, Daniel Jeremiah just. Him and Kuyper were T4. Okay, so he was the best last year yeah yeah so this year daniel jeremiah just him and kuiper were t4 okay so he was tied second to last and then our guy was dead last for the second year in a row he's getting better though yeah more points this year okay that's what we're talking about anyways tell shrags we said congrats on a win last year and tell daniel jeremiah that we know he's talking directly to casario. So whenever we hear him say anything about anything, we know the words are coming directly out of the building because what a thing to piece together on a mock draft and then for it to happen.

He almost stole the thunder of it, but then immediately we go, this is amazing, out of that whole thing. He was unbelievable. Actually, as it happened, I do the report the report trade and they literally go to the desk and it's everyone just looking at Daniel Jeremiah with him. Hold on. What did his ass? I texted him this morning.

I texted him this morning and I said, uh, I sent him the eyeball emojis. Okay. And then he said, what's up, dude. Can't believe it actually happened.

And then I go, you won the mock draft thing by a wide margin and he does blind squirrel following the knot every once in a while. Yeah, it's all bullshit. Yeah, we know. Congrats to all of you. You've done fantastic. We'll watch you all weekend. Hey, get back

home sometime. Maybe take a nap. Stop boozing. You been boozing pretty heavy out there? There's only so much time to booze. I've got to work most of it. So, like, after last night, you guys go to a hotel bar, have a drink, go to bed? Yeah. Tonight, hopefully, I'll be sitting here watching Molly crew, maybe having a drink, let's see what happens.

Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rappaport. Yay, Rajeev! Yeah, so Jeremiah has the in with the Texans. Anything he says about them, we should take as gospel from this point forward. Yep. Ridiculous. Hey, drop that down, AJ.

It's right here. Got it. Who else? We always say that once somebody breaks news about somebody, we need to just listen to them forever about said thing. Roussini in the Saints, maybe? I believe so. Cardinals? Jets?

Titans? Titans. She had Julio. Was that Julio or what was it? She was on the field for Julio that first practice, I believe. So people have their boom, bang. Jocena in Cleveland, right? Yes.

Ian, not so much in Seattle, I don't think. Glazer everywhere. Salcapaccio in Buffalo. Everyone knows Ian, not so much in Seattle. Glazier. Salcapaccio. Everyone knows Schulte has Seattle on lock. Yeah, we do know that. Everybody would think that I have the Colts on lock, but that is not the case. They don't tell me anything. Ballard almost alluded to that yesterday about not texting me back when I was sending him

my ideas for what our team should do. Happy he took Anthony Richardson. Now I'm hearing there's breaking news out of Jim Ursae's Twitter account. Colts fans, would you take Will Leveson number two if you're on the board for Colts in four hours from now and go Montana Young for franchise? Smart. Yes.

Delete that tweet, Jim. Go on, Jim. Go on, Jim. Would you take Will Leveson number two if you're on the board for the Colts in four hours from now and go Montana Young for franchise? Go on, Jimmy. I think I should do it. Delete the tweet, Jim. Go get it, Jimmy. What does that mean

exactly? So this is time for another segment of What is Jim Ursae? So I believe Jim Ursae has gotten a lot of flack from maybe some Colts fans who thought Will Levis was going to be the Colts quarterback. Remember Kentucky right down yonder from where Indiana is,

where he played his college ball. Potential a lot of Colts and Cats fans kind of coming together. Also having to learn about Will Levis over the last few weeks, we found ourselves buying in. Okay, if this guy becomes the Colts quarterback, I'll be cool with it. So instead, we take Anthony Richardson. I personally personally very pumped about jubilation some colts fans might not have been pumped about that because they thought they

were going to get will levis is this jim ursa saying how about this you want us to take him tonight because he's still available is is that what jim is saying here or is he uh confusing a situation between montana young when they came in two different times? I believe it's the second part since he referenced them. If he would have left out the Montana Young part, I would have bought what you're trying to do for Jim. Well, I'm not trying to do anything. It's just how I read it.

He could have went RG triple sticks and Kirk Cunningham. Yeah, that's what I thought. That would have been the same draft at least. Listen, this guy's been in the NFL his whole life. He knows. So the Montana Young comparison is an accurate one. Jim, you won last night. Let's just move on.

I think you guys should do this. I think it's a good idea. 100%. We got Gardner Minshew. We don't need another quarterback that ain't going to play. SAT scale, Anthony Richardson should be a wide receiver. We don't have any weapons, so maybe we did just take a wide out of four. I really, really like this idea.

They said Richardson might need some time, so maybe bring in Levis to start. Let Richardson sit behind him and learn for a couple years. That'd be perfect. Two championships in the next two years. See, but what is the guy who paid you to play football for a long time tweeting right here? I don't know. Maybe he's trying to get some people to trade up.

Maybe he's trying to make that pay. Hey, we might take Levis here. If you want him, jump up here and take this. Look, Ursa, he's thinking 10 steps. This guy's playing chess. You checkers bums. That's exactly what it is. Thank you, Darius, for pointing that out. I should have seen

this as soon as I read it. Everyone's talking about taking number 32 overall. Oh, the Steelers fan lines are blowing up. Oh, is that right? Is that that right what if we were to take this guy huh that's right you you don't want us to do that no we already got enough quarterbacks okay on our roster currently but you need them and you can come get them this is jim just driving up a little bit of conversation hey let's do some business sure let's talk a little bit. We got who we wanted. You guys get who you want. We get the fuck out of here.

Just like Montana Young back in the day. Those businessmen, they do what they want. They get good stuff for everybody, and they're off and running. The football emoji is kind of confusing because that makes you think it's about actually football. This is about business. Thank you, Darius.

Thank you, Darius. Thank you, Darius. You should have put cash tags right through that entire thing. That's his only mistake. He's fucking old. He meant to put dollar signs. He accidentally put the football because in his recently used thing, it's the football, it's the cash sign.

He's an owner of the NFL, pal. I took the three footballs as the three wins they'll have this year with Levis at the helm. All right! And what he's thinking, but hold on, hold on, hear me out. What he's thinking is Richardson gets the year, Levis gets this year, and guess who they get in the draft next year at the number three overall pick? Who's that?

Marvin Harrison Jr. There you go. You partner him with Anthony Richardson and Jonathan Taylor, who at that time probably is saying, get me the fuck out of this place. I hate it here. So maybe you drafted Ryan Beck. He was starting to say that a little bit last year. Exactly.

But you partnered those guys. He's not happy. Is that the Jerry Rice? Marvin Harrison? Yeah. Bingo. Okay. Bingo.

NTO. See, they don't give enough characters. Now, I do think Jim could. AJ. The fuck was. Stop fucking sweeping under your ass. My mute didn't work very well. I feel like this is an inside joke that I don't know anything

about, so I'm just trying to vacuum up some ass. It's right here. It just happened. Tweets do good numbers. I don't know. You're leaving me out. Now we are right where you were. I don't understand what's happening. We don't understand this at all either. We're trying to just make the most of it.

We apologize. You're feeling lonely over there in that attic. No, not at all. I'm just trying to figure it out. Could we click on the quote tweets because I am so fascinated. Anything that has 128 retweets, 628 quotes. You certainly have to know. I triple dog dare you, says Kyle George. Go up to Kyle George real quick.

Go ahead and click on him. Bears fan. Okay, Chicago. All right, no Colts fans are going to be. It's 5 o'clock somewhere. Everybody's saying he's boozing Nick Ballas. Old fella has lost his mind. Okay.

Says thick as rook. All right. Are you drinking again, James? I don't think drinking was his thing, but a lot of people saying he's potentially under the influence here. Trying to imagine Howie tweeting this before they selected Jalen Hurts. All right, there's an Eagles fan. Oh, Rich Eisen.

Rich Eisen likes it. Is that the real Rich Eisen? That's his show, yeah. He likes it, too. Good sign. Jim's just throwing him off the scent. Smart move. Geez.

A lot of people just saw it. All right, let's get out of the question. I don't know if you're quick on those. I caught the last one Jesus Jim has his demons Sue him I do love how he just dived and headed in

Like to mud He's just talking shit here Why? I love this His haircut is awesome He's got brand new hairdo. It looks awesome. He was in a movie last week.

What do you want from this guy? Well, and you see what he used to make his hair that color, too. He put like 50 Cheetos in a bowl and used a microwave, melted them down, and then just scooped it up and ran it through his hair for about an hour. Come on. And now it looks awesome. That was on the post. How did you know that?

Yeah, that was part of it. And below it was like explanation how to get your hair like this. It's sick. I'm thinking about doing it myself. I think there's a little bit of spicy Doritos in there as well. I love the new style. Are they flaming hot? I think so.

Jim, Jim, Jim. Keep living, Jim. You do you, Jim. We love you, Jim. And Kalen, keep kicking ass in there, too. There's Hambone in the back. Some guy with a ponytail there it appears. He's doing good stuff.

Hambone! We appreciate everybody. Jim, you look fucking cool, dude. Okay? Yes, he does. Great work last night. I don't know what this tweet's all about, though. Honestly, hey, Jim, you can delete tweets. You can edit them. Do all those things. Who's better than one? We get Anthony Richardson.

Let everybody come all full circle on this guy. Because there's probably going to be a statue of him someday. 15, 20 years. Maybe he's thinking, hey, first year head coach. Let's bring in a guy who's so fucking intense no one can take it. And we'll flip this whole building upside down. Yeah. We don't know if that's real.

That was Rapaport's reporting. Let's go to the phones to wrap up this glorious field. How's that whale? Lolita, I believe. Thriving. It's alive. Lolita's alive. Living very well out in the Atlantic Ocean. Love that. What'd you say?

Is that the one that got released from captivity after like 50 years? Jim Irsay paid for it to release. Oh, it's doing well. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I not dead. Yeah, I bought the app just like you could follow Santa Claus like Santa Tracker on Christmas Eve.

I bought the app for the whales. It's doing fucking great. Lolita's joined a crew. Yeah. Got a squad. A pod. Yeah, a pod. Got a pod.

They're heading down to South Africa right now. Yeah, for sure. They're making their way across the Atlantic. Yeah, that whale's alive. Definitely. There it is. That picture was taken yesterday. There's Lolita.

Live. For those that don't know who we're talking about, there's a whale down in Miami who's been in captivity for, like, ever. Yeah, 50-plus years. And Jim Mercer helped free. He did. Thank you, Jim. Lolita wanted out of there.

I don't know what Lolita was saying or doing to indicate that she needed out of captivity. What if she was just fucking full speed right into the glass headfirst? Boom. I don't doubt it. And then concussed down to the bottom. Got to breathe.

Back to the other side. That's what Willie was doing. Boom. Just for like two months straight. Holy fuck. Seems like Lolita wants out of here yeah jim's like i got you yeah here's 20 million dollars and lolita was able to survive and thrive out there in the wild i hope you have to not be in there for 30 years 40 years yeah she's

alive and well i'm uh i'm sure you're down there in south florida you got eyes on lolita what do you think lolita's doing right now? Mean she's probably been eating and shit out already. Oh, yeah. What is your problem? No, I said 50. No actually yesterday. I saw videos she tipped over a refugee boat fucking a bunch See that one more sense for low She probably has more than a few gripes with humans if I had to give. That's what I'm saying. She ain't eating seals. She's eating people.

Let's go to the phones. Tilikum. Bingo. Powder? I mean, what if Jim messed up and put this whale in a freshwater lake? That would be awesome. Yeah.

And it's home now. Yeah. A lot of gators down there. Lake Monroe, are you kidding me? Let's go to the phones. All right. We know Lolita's living. She's great.

And she loves humans. Wow. Jim Irsay, let her out. He loves Jim. I mean, Lolita probably killed 12 to 15 people at SeaWorld. That's part of the reason they had to aid this. Hey, that blackfish thing really changed how a lot of people started viewing. Oh, yeah.

That is crazy. Got rid of SeaWorld. That is burned in my brain, seeing that fucking killer whale grab that worker and slam their head off that enclosure and kill them instantly. I was like, oh, yeah, maybe these things don't love being inside. So smart too. So, so smart. And it's like,

that was a tough dock for the entire animal safari. Changed everything, right? Isn't that all SeaWorld orca shows are gone, right? They're phasing them all out. The dolphins, I think, are next because you see those fuckers. They're so smart. They're too smart.

Masturbating the whole time. They do crank it. They rape each other. They throw in bathroom. They're very dangerous. Guys, can we not have one dorsal fin conversation?

Without you guys bringing up what dolphins do whenever there's a photo op situation. Crazy. Every single time, pretty much, at least once in the group that's taking the photo with the dolphins. Of course, the dolphins are going to come up and give you a high five. Okay? Of course, you're going to be able to ride on back.

But every once in a while, somebody in your group is going to get one of those right on the back. Yeah, exactly. And it's going business. And that's just dolphin lifestyle. Yeah. So the dolphin. That is not a dolphin.

Just want to let everybody know. No. That is not a dolphin. Where are they? What are they on? I believe that's Lolita Spa Day. Yeah. I mean, if they look at their house, are they in the ocean?

No. No, that's it. Yeah, that's the ocean. What do you think? The background. Okay. Is that a wall? What's the background? No. No, that's... Yeah, that's the ocean. What do you think? The background, okay. Is that a wall? What's the background? Is that a wall?

Is that an aquarium? It's a tank. And then they come up and they... Oh, now I see the tank. Now that you zoomed in, I can see the bars. I couldn't see the bars. If Jim has any... All right, all right.

Hey, happy there. You smile. No, that's another thing. Like, is that a smile or not? Yeah. How do we know what an animal's smile is? The face that that animal's making. They've never smiled.

They've never smiled in that tiny tank. Look at the size of that tongue. Imagine what that thing could do. Well, they rub it, too, right? They have to rub the tongue, suck the tongue. Can you imagine the Dalai Lama seeing that thing? Suck my tongue. Let's go to the fence.

If Jim had any gut sack, he'd fucking saw this thing in half and headdress out to the first game season opener after goals. You know how fucking cool that would be? Jim with a guitar. You're a pig. His eyes looking through the eyes of a killer whale.

Come on. That is a killer mentality. I would think about switching fans. You're in the bully, huh? Is that what you said you were going to do here? Lolita's living a great life. What would think about switching. Are you bullying the bully? Lolita's living a great life. What's the life expectancy of these things? 75 years or so. In captivity or in the wild? Probably in the wild.

Captivity is like 150. Captivity is much less because once they kill a fucking 16 year old person who's making minimum wage just trying to get a couple bucks to get McDonald's. Guess what? They're taking a shotgun out there and fucking riddling that thing. Yeah, so you were wrong. Male killer whales is about 30 years, but they can live up to at least 60 years.

Female typically live about 50 years, but can live up past, oh, you were 100% right, 90 years in the wild. Females reach sexual maturity when they're between 10 and 13 years old. So Lolita's way past that. Oh, yeah. She's past her prime.

She's going out into the ocean. Past her prime. She's living until she's 90. She's got another 40-odd years. That doesn't say what it's like to transition from captive to wild. Hey, Lolita, we're pulling for you. Good luck, Lolita. You're going to need it. Let's go to the phones.

Let's go to Bob in Ohio. Can't wait to hear this. Ohio in on this glorious feel-good Friday. Bob, what's going on? Say one. Yo. Yo. I want to know why the two stooges in the front row are always fucking with the Ohio legend, A.J. Hawk.

Hey, Bob, I fucking love you, Bob. Where are you from? What part of Ohio? Parma. Parma? Yeah, right outside Cleveland. Oh, hell yeah. Alright, Bob, we appreciate your service to Ohio.

And your Ohio champion appreciates and respects you calling in. Questioning two people that think they can pop off to the Ohio champion. You're disrespecting an entire state whenever you say something about this man right here, Connor. Do you know that? That's what Parma Bob... That was not directed towards me and Ty.

There is no way he is saying that we disrespect A.J. We never do. I wore his fucking jersey last night as an homage to the player and man A.J. Hawkins. Yeah, Bob, when you fucking sign A.J.'s game checks, then maybe you can fucking come back and talk to me. I don't know how many years.

How many years were you an owner of the team while A.J. was playing? Let's see. That was gifted to me when I graduated from high school, so probably only like three or four. Still as an employer. Has Bob ever done that? I don't think so. No.

Suck it, Bob. Let's go to Steven in Michigan What's going on Steven Matt the boys How we doing Keep it moving Hell yeah Big time I've been a long time Lions fan My whole life

But hey That wasn't the call I used to be a Browns fan Jesus Baker wrong I had to go and I used to be a Browns fan. Jesus. But after they did Baker wrong. You do Baker wrong. I had to move on.

That's you, man. And I said, whoever Richardson goes to, that's my new team. Please don't. I'm a Browns fan now, boys. Yay! Yay! You sweet. You sweet. Congrats.

You got the worst fan in the history of the NFL. You want to watch the game on a ground level suite? Send him your number. He became a fan literally right before Jim's tweet. He's a fan. That's what happened. Wow. That's true.

Steven. Good call, Bob. You need that energy in the stadium. The Browns to the Lions. To the Colts. To the Colts. Jeez, Louise. This guy has zero happiness in his NFL fandom.

And when he left the Browns, they probably went to the playoffs. And when he left the Lions, they are probably going to go to the playoffs this year. Oh, great. So at least we know that Steven got here. There is a sunrise on the horizon. That's right. We are currently in the darkness, but the light will be found. Oh, hey, Aaron's pissed about the Jets pick.

Is he? What do you mean? I don't know. Should he be mad was the question that was being asked this morning on television. Yep. Yeah. What did he have? He needed a receiver?

He wanted, like, Jackson, Smith, and Jigba or something? Well, he was available at the time. Nobody expected him to be available. Instead, they took a linebacker from Iowa State. Will McDonald IV. Yeah. Great name. Believe me.

But it was a compliment to him, though. It was a compliment to Aaron saying, hey, we expect to be playing with a bunch of leads, so we want a bunch of guys in the arsenal to rush a passer. Bingo. Hell yeah. So you think the people that were asking that question also didn't know that maybe Bob and Joe have Aaron as a part of the... Brain trust?

Conversations? What? About what's going on? I think that question trying to stir something up a little bit, maybe. No! You don't know. Possibly. No, I do believe there's a chance though that Aaron is part...

Like... I don't want to take a shot at anybody. I'm not going to. This is not a shot. Sure. It's not a shot. Mark Murphy didn't grow up an aaron rogers fan no okay joe douglas could have potentially oh yeah like at times sala could have potentially you know the ages just naturally the ages that they are for sure like hey the way they view and think of aaron

rogers and his ability could be different than how other buildings could experience it. And I wonder what that would be like for Aaron if immediately walks into two people that are like, bro, when you were doing this, why were you doing this? When you think about this, what do you think about? When you think about a wide receiver, what do you think? They want to learn potentially from a guy that they've kind of seen and been a fan of for a long time, as opposed to like almost a, hey, you work for us standpoint. That's probably an interesting vibe to kind of,

I wish I was a fly on the wall almost if that's happening. Do you know if that's happening? And do you think that was maybe a part of the entire thing when they spent 11 hours in Malibu together and got to learn each other and why you wanted to go there so bad? Yeah, I mean i don't you think like whether people admit or not like everybody wants to be wanted right like so with the fact that all these players and the coaching staff and all of them then i would

imagine he sits down with them and from everything he says like these guys were were humans they're normal humans that he could talk to not only about football but everything else so i'm sure it's a great like uh sometimes it's just a change of scenery, man, for everybody, different perspective. Yeah, different way of doing things, too. You're starting something anew. So you can change, you can use the information that you have from the past, and you can redo however you want to do it.

Nice, fresh start. How many times did Joe Douglas go, so there's no light in it? So how did you see the toilet? So did you wear diapers? And then Aaron went, that's what AJ asked me to. Oh, love AJ. And Joe's going to say, but yeah, you still have not answered the question.

No, he said he didn't. He said it was three wipes. Where's the footage? Did they film it? Somebody had to have, right? Which was another point that you had. So are you being surveyed here? Who's watching the i've watched him sweep for listening devices and hidden cameras so yes i know he's very well paranoid put that on the ticker

aj has seen aaron rogers sweep premises smart yeah that's a weird looking fire thing, isn't it? What the hell? Open it up. Thought so. What if he gets one? Gotcha, bitch. Do it. How does that work?

I've never seen him come across a device that somebody had planted somewhere where he is staying. But I would love to be there if he did come across something. Yeah, every once in a while you're in like an Airbnb or somewhere and you're like taking a shit or something and it's like this is ancient you think they're you start looking around i assume i assume they're yeah and you try to find it or whatever and you'll see like one little thing on the wall where it's like that seems abnormal if it's not a camera why is that like that somebody had to do this thing and just be like yep that looks like everything else it does not and And then you get up closer and it's just literally just a fuck up in the

painting. And it's like, okay, so not a camera. All right, let's move on. But everybody has that thought. I do like the fact that yeah, Aaron does seem like a guy that would be like, all right, whole place. You gotta watch out for toilet cams. Toilet cams? Shooting up the thing?

They do top and bottom nowadays. Do they get turds on them? Oh, yeah. What are you getting out of there? You're just getting what Tone's seeing when he looks down at the mirror he's straddling? That guy's asshole is very clean. I didn't expect that today. Five stars.

My butthole shows up. They're going to be pissed that they put that camera down here. Bold move. Because when I'm in there, we are going to battle. That's right. It is me versus that water. here. Bold move. Because when I'm in there, we are going to battle. That's right. It is me versus that water. It's not friendly. And it's going to fight back

whenever I splash this thing. So what are they filming, AJ? These are some weird people out there. I mean, people that love probably getting dumped on, I'm guessing, right? There's people that enjoy that stuff. Which hammock.

Let's go to the phones. Yep. Smoosh it through. You know your uncle. Smoosh it right through to him, right? Somehow not related we have same last name we're not related yeah i mean at some point and it may be like three or four removed yeah diner county cork in ireland probably you know somewhere around there the macs were actually booted from scotland because we're badasses and then we went over to Ireland, County Cork, I do believe.

And then, I don't know who made the, for me, I don't know who made the voyage over to America or whatever. But I believe immediately upon arrival, right into hey, welcome to you got a fight. Great. Let's do it.

American dream, can't wait. What are we doing? You're going to war, I think, immediately. Okay, sweet. So with that being said, John McAfee went a different route. His family. I don't know what they did. They just got real smart and then started a war with everybody. So much money. He was in every computer.

Every single computer. Antivirus too? Yeah. I still get people, whenever they learn of me, they go, who's that guy doing fighting viruses? It's like, all right, bro. Everybody uses an Apple. They're virus-proof. But, yes, similar pronunciation.

If that is how this is going to go. He was everywhere. Oh, yeah. And those viruses. Real deal. Back in, like, LimeWire days. Oh, yeah. Throwing horses left and right.

They came out of nowhere, too. Yeah. Oh, you just ruined everything in your house. Okay. And then John McAfee was riding in on a technology horse. We will fight everything off for you. All you got to do is just pay us. What do you do?

Nobody understood technology. Didn't he openly say in the doc that he was spying on everybody with the software? He could, yeah. He said he could pretty much. I don't know if he said he did. That's a lot of humans I think he would be spying on everybody with the software he could yeah he said he could pretty much i don't know if he said he did that's a lot of humans i think he would be spying on which goes back to the point of like the people that think they're always being watched which i assume we are who's watching all the footage and taking it all in yeah and documenting it all take that thing and filing it it's just stored until they need it until they need to dial it up. Check GPT. Boom. Dude, AI Drake.

So good. Winter Storm. Hey, AI Drake. Winter's cold. Who's getting paid on that? Anyone getting paid on that? Nope. Well, that's the thing, yeah.

That's going to become big money. Yeah, Drake just needs to hire it and then just call it a career because AI Drake don't miss. AI Drake makes bangers. Yeah. Fake Drake makes bangers. For those that don't know what we're talking about,

AI, artificial intelligence, I do believe is the... Artificial intelligence are these algorithms and shit that we've dealt with for a long time without even knowing that we're dealing with it. The suggestions, the smartphones, the you need this. It starts reading your tendencies

and then it's able to just kind of put things in front of your face and say, hey, you need it. That has evolved now. The AI has evolved. And all these nerds have been telling us that the AI is going to evolve, and it's going to become a problem for all of us. Now they've gone into the mimic world where AI can take all the shit that you've ever done publicly, kind of piece it together, and figure out who you are, what you are. There was something called Dudezy, an AI podcast with Will Sasso and Friend, and it made an entire hour-long stand-up special using Tom Brady's exact voice while going through all of his speeches and the response to the things that he said,

what gets the best responses, what gets the worst responses, and made an hour-long stand-up special and it's a banger i'm so good because it knows exactly what people are going to respond well to because it's already been tried and proven that's literally how it was built ai drake is the new one making the beats okay we know this type of beat this sound is good for uh what people like and respond to because we've done all the research here on our end analytically. This gets a big number. This gets big number.

What do these two things have in common? Boom, let's put those two things together. Make the best beat out. Then what do people like about Drake? We can search all the Google searches for what people like about drake what they say about drake what they enjoy what they don't enjoy and then bang bars on the best beat you get the best drake pretty much yes on the best beat possible and it has been banger city from this fucking ai drink it is remarkable and i know drake has to know about this drake knows

everything oh yeah about his business he's a great businessman i'm excited to see what he does with ai drake they will be featured on a song yeah they have to be it will absolutely happen and i do believe i read this on the internet last night actually they also generate the album images that the songs have come with and those also are unbelievable so the whole thing is just getting taken over by something behind the scenes tom brady could be a stand-up comedian right now yeah just have ai tom make one don't let anybody else hear it memorize it yep go do it arby's bits for days that's what music could be right a collaborative effort that people don't really know about but that does all the dirty work gives you your lyrics gives you the beat don't fight it just like drake drake will take ai drake's first song i assume

he'll cut it off somewhere in a verse and he'll say like all right now my go and then he'll throw it back to ai drake and then he'll come back and then he'll be able to profit off of that yeah because the first one got ripped off spotify unfortunately because there's one before the one i showed you guys you remember the album ti versus.I. vs. T.I.P.? It's going to be Drake vs. A.I. Drake. That's going to be an album. That'd be sick. And he's going to take all the...

Okay, and that's going to be his last album because remember he's thinking about retiring. Bingo. Makes sense. Wow. Drake's going to make hundreds of millions of dollars off of this. Don't fight the change. Way to go, Drake.

Embrace it. One more phone call and let's get the fuck out of here. 3-11 on this feel-good Friday. Big time weekend draft night. Hey, how'd you sleep last night? I was up, dude. I was up. Took me a while.

Yeah, I didn't fall asleep for a while. We like that after football games too? Yeah, usually. I was always tired and then all of a sudden it's time to go to bed and you're not tired at all. Primetime games. Things at late night like when I was doing those WWE shows, like SmackDowns on Friday nights.

That'd be really hard to get to sleep. I'd get home, and it's like, I'm wide awake still. Yeah. Like, I am. What are we talking about? The wife obviously ready to go to bed, but she hasn't just been yelling into a microphone for two hours with 13,000 people around.

It's like, I wonder what that is. I think it's probably normal, though. Sensory drop-off or something? Even the Clippers game last week and Thursday, being in those environments and then trying to just go and completely shut off your brain is so hard to do. Ballmer's lit, too.

Ballmer? Oh, my God. He was going through it. He's got the super nice courtside seats that are bigger and he was directly across from it. He was, oh it because he obviously, he's got like the super nice courtside seats that are bigger and he was directly across from me and he was, oh, jeez, the entire night. Toilets. He cares about everything. Going to a Clipper game is going to be a good time.

Yeah. TV timeout. Forever. Rap performance. And the Clippers are in it? Yeah. What is it, crypto? Crypto, yeah.

There are new places right there by SoFi. Felt like the Jerry Buss vibe that he was trying to do in the TV show on HBO. Ying Yang Twins at halftime. I like his passion. I had to figure out what the fuck he was going to do with his team. Kawhi's always... Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Come on.

That's hurt. What do you want him to do? Oh, sorry. Feel bad for him. Broke all his bones and his knees. Yeah, he's had bad injuries We have not seen him play basketball as a Clipper though I've seen him probably play six games

My eyes, these eyes Six great games So good too when he's out This guy could be top five all the time Palmer's like, toilets! I spent this much money on toilets They'll be here every night I spent this much money on Kawhi'll be here every night. I spent this much money on Kawhi.

I haven't seen the guy play. What the fuck? I haven't seen him play. Legit, though. That's been unfortunate. And they have to hold on to him, too. Because new arena coming in, you're not just not going to have two all-stars on your team. You need to have them.

You don't think Ballmer's going to pull a tepper and just try to pay some ridiculous price for somebody to come in there and launch a new arena? Yeah, or just trade. Who's available? LeBron? Luka Garza's available. Luka Garza's available. Luka Garza's available? Yeah. No way.

Yeah, I remember we fucking pulled up his G League stats. Guy's fucking averaging 30 points and 15 rebounds and no NBA team. We'll give him a fucking shot. Bullshit. 25 minutes. Tell me what that's all about. Yeah. Good question.

I mean, Giannis could become. Is that Iowaism? It could be. I don, Giannis could become... Is that Iowaism? It could be. I don't like that that's happening. Could be also because his name's Luka Garza and not fucking Joe Smith. What's that mean? Luka Doncic is all over the place.

Well, they'll give him a shot. He can go to Iowa. Just gotta defense. That's true. Luka Garza is a free agent, and we would like to see him on an NBA team. Right now. Right now. Right now.

Do you hear that, AJ? When was the last time he was on an NBA roster? I don't know if he's ever been on one. Yeah, up and down all year. They fucking, he kills it in the G League. They bring him up. He plays four minutes, and they tell him, hey, don't shoot the fucking ball.

Don't even touch it. And then sit back down on the bench, and then they send him back down. What about Mack McClung? Where's he at? Yeah, G League. I thought he was up with the Sixers. No, he came back down. I think they won the G League championship, though.

Oh, nice. Yeah, he could get called up, though. Hell yeah. Right now? And be just hurt, yeah. Had a hell of a moment. A moment? No, this is a moment.

This is a start. Who do? He's in five, ten years, this guy. Five, ten years, he is going to be the Stefan Marbury of China again. He's going to take that fucking place over. Hell yeah. Last phone call. You want to go to Nevada, Seattle, New Jersey, Indianapolis, or D.C.?

Wow. Seattle. Any other votes? I was going to throw out Jersey. Nevada. Okay, so everybody sucks. So what is the... It was five phone calls.

Indy. And would you like to say... DC. Okay. Okay. All right, one vote for all of them, obviously. You haven't voted. Yeah, that's the thing I was trying not to do.

All right, you know what? You push me, I'll vote Seattle. Wow. Yep, I've been turned. Just like that. Yeah. Swing vote.. Wow. Yep, I've been turned. Just like that. Yeah. Swing vote. Boston Connor.

I thought a lot about Jersey. I don't like Jersey, so I don't even know why I said it. Let's go to River in Seattle. Best name on the board. Yes. River, what's going on, pal? On the 5 Energy phone line to wrap up this feel-good Friday as we get into draft weekend here in the NFL season.

How we doing? Keep it moving, boys. Hell yeah, Rivers. Good start here already. Hey, I was out here on the sound earlier, and I saw there was a herd of, it's not a herd, but there's a bunch of orcas, and one of them was wearing a Gators jersey.

I think Lolita made her way back to Seattle. We knew Lolita was a hell of a swimmer. She would have had to go through the Panama Canal. She came all the way back home. This is where they got her. So where are you right now? You're on a what? I'm in Seattle. I'm looking at the Puget Sound right now. What is the Puget Sound?

It's part of Seattle. It's part of the Pacific Ocean. It's an inlet. If you look at Seattle, there's kind of a sail. If of the Pacific Ocean It's an inlet So if you look at Seattle You've seen it It's right where the stadium is That's where they throw the fish Oh they're tossing fish down there

And you said there's orcas out there Is that like an everyday thing Oh yeah there's always orcas out here They love the bay What are you doing What do you do for a living You just smoked up There's always orcas out here. This is the... They love the day. What are you doing? What do you do for a living? You just smoked up and stared at orcas out there?

Catching some... Catching themselves in the sea world? I'm a chef at one of the restaurants down here. Chef? River?

Let's go. What are we cooking? Are we cooking fish, obviously? Are we cooking meat? Oh, hell yeah. We're shucking oysters. We're cooking tuna. We're cooking salmon.

We're cooking it all. I love that. What's the name of the place you cook at? Hatback Bar and Grill. It's a shout-out to Ken Griffey Jr. It's right across from the Mariner Stadium. Oh, nice. Oh, there's Lolita.

There's Lolita. You're right. You're right. Holy shit, River. Good eyes on the inlet there. We appreciate you. Good luck. I'm always watching out.

Hey, appreciate you. River, great name. Good call. That was sweet. He works at a restaurant. Ken Griffey started? Right always watching out. Hey, appreciate you. River, great name. Good call. That was sweet. He works at a restaurant. Ken Griffey started? Right across from Safeco Field, sounds like. It says Hatback.

Hatback, cool. Ken Griffey Jr., I think. So he's the namesake. I do believe. That's awesome. Hey, Chef River, do your thing, pal. Keep going, River. Let's get the hell out of here.

What a week. Unbelievable. What a week. It was. Legendary week. Legendary. Last night was the biggest draft spectacular we've ever had aj really okay yeah nice it was fun man i had a good time it was yeah go ahead just everything everything ties yeah top to bottom ties flu game jordan flu game

as jj watt said yeah it was it was very entertaining from all fronts, I think. I concur. We were in the trenches a little bit there with AQ. Yeah. Learned some stuff about some guys. Some guys over our shoulder a little bit. Going to have to fix that. Skronsky, also, let's go ahead and rotate the stick.

That's right. D-Bud had comps on these guys. Oh, yeah. That was sweet. Running film. Remember, he was in front of the film. Yep. Doing the film.

A lot of people were tweeting, though. I seen some of these later as I was scrolling through at night when I couldn't pass out. A lot of people were viewing it as a watch along with the draft, and we were 25 minutes ahead of the draft. So they said we were kind of ruining it. Oh, boo-hoo. It ain't a watch-along.

It's a program. It's a draft spectacular. It's fucking different. I said it is a watch-along, though. I said, hey, as we watch along with the... I kind of defined it as that. Yeah, but it's the most stupendous watch-along, which means it's not a watch-along.

But they need to fix that. Going forward, we were way too far ahead. There's literally nothing you can do. When we got the Bryce Young thing, you can't sit on that for 25 minutes. It's the internet. We're an internet show. Exactly. But they got to figure that out on their end.

For sure. They need to embrace it. It's the same deal. As far as possible. I know, but then they need to know that they're trying to stretch it out as far as possible. And they need to keep that shit tight. They need to specifically say, like, okay,

we understand that coverage starts at 8. Like, you need to – first pick will be at the podium at this time because people tune in at 8 assuming, like, okay, the card's going to be in pretty quickly. Like, we started at 745, and they didn't announce the first pick until, like, 825. Do Rodgers bullshit earlier. No, we're okay with all of that. Make it a thing. Make it a spectacle. Drag

out the time like they did allegedly for the first and second, like 10 minutes and everything. Keep the ratings. I get it. Don't let it out. Yeah, no phones in the war room. That's what I'm saying. Don't let it out. It's getting up. Schrager's like, don't do Twitter. It's like, well, why is Twitter no? Don't let Twitter know.

You're billion-dollar businesses. Like, there is a way to keep it tight, and I think it would make the draft better for everybody. 100% Bingo. Forfeit first-round draft picks. Like, whenever a guy tries to steal another quarterback right off another team.

No, but legit, that's a real thing. They should focus on that and be like, hey, this shit does not get out. Cannot get out. Because, I mean, what are we supposed to do? We're staring at a tweet telling us exactly what's going to happen. What are we? I mean, this has turned into the second biggest day of the NFL calendar behind the Super Bowl. Keep it tight.

Like it legit has. Keep it tight, AJ. Keep the schedule tight. They could. Like the schedule rarely gets out. The WWE is able to keep things. And that's the reason why I think about it because I've been in WWE. It's like, hey, there is a way to keep shit tight.

Yeah. The Cardinals and the Ravens kept the trade of Hollywood Brown and a plane trip tight. You can keep it tight. Just like, hey, and a plane trip tight. You can keep it tight. Just like, hey, let's keep it tight. Let's do that. Let's keep it tight. You know what I mean, AJ? Let's keep it a little tighter.

They could definitely get it done, but there would have to be some real repercussions if it did get out. Million dollars. With that being said, we don't want to do what we have to do, but we have to do what we have to do because it's right there. The knowledge is in front of us. If we don't cover it, who are we? Exactly. Sorry. Sorry. Got to do it. have to do, but we have to do what we have to do because it's right there, the knowledge in front of us. If we don't cover it, who are we? Sorry. Got us into some lawsuits.

Yeah, exactly. It's crop, but it is crop. Allegedly. Yeah. Allegedly crop. When did that start? Crop? I believe that was the Iowa caller who was a crop pot.

What's his name? Ben? Dan. Dan. Dan. Dan in Northwest Iowa. He was a good call. Crop Pot. There's no way the leaves can go through the fucking animals. He's not from fucking Quebec, Tony, okay? I thought Northwestern Iowa was close to Manitoba. I do appreciate Darius

saying so. You're not even from a city. You're just from an area of the state. If you're from some fucking hayseed town, then yeah, you just say North East Iowa. We like this guy. What do you do? Oh, I love him. I love him.

I'm just saying, I'm not telling people I'm from fucking Northeast Iowa. Where are you from? I'm from fucking Waterloo. Okay. Oh, we know that place. Yeah, I saw that documentary. Yeah, John Wayne Gacy ran one of the most profitable fucking KFCs, you know, this side of the Mississippi River there.

That is not what we remember. I don't recall that. You must be remembering when he moved to Des Plaines, Illinois and killed all those fucking people. Not sure we caught him though. The guy that's from Waterloo? He's not from Waterloo. He moved there. He's from Illinois. He moved to Waterloo. That is a great

picture. That was him in Iowa, right? That was before he got the trophy? That's man of the year right there. He won the EJ Hawk of Ohio award of Iowa. Just of Waterloo. Not of Iowa. Oh, just the city.

Waterloo, Jason. If he stuck around a little bit longer, the whole state might get him. Maybe. He built that beautiful golf course at the fucking State Penitentiary in Anamosa. Let's get to a break for two to three days. We can't thank you enough. Shout out to Waterloo. Shout out. Shout out. Shout out to Northwest

Iowa. Shout out. Shout out to Nevada, Seattle, D.C., Indy, and Jersey. Those are all the callers that are left and all the other people that called in and have watched all week. We can't thank you enough. Deebo, you want to do a giveaway? Let's do it. No, we're giving away

$50,000. $100,000. $100,000, yeah. Yeah, you're right. Next time you're in here, we'll do a giveaway. What would you do? Right put. No, I was going to say, don't even look at that. You need to get a unicycle in there

and start practicing. We will. No way. I seen him one last night. It's impossible. Not the tall one. You're chasing a ghost, AJ. Get a smaller one. She was so high in the sky. And then she's dismounted.

And if she falls sideways or back, there's no easy way to fall. And how about catching the fifth one? I watched the video back. She's leaning left to catch that thing it's like bro that unicycle you see the the one when she dropped the one that she dropped she starts to go for it and then she pulls her hand back it's like she could have made herself fall off when she goes to grab like that has to be another thing like okay how how far like outside of my frame can i go to try to you know grab one of these suckers we googled this and we're not saying this her age is is something that i don't think anybody would expect no and at

that age to fall from 10 and a half feet he's dead in heels yeah like she might be able to adjust and like land but like that's gonna be a tough it's all she wrote. You're going to be off balance. No. Not what you're saying. I don't know. What's that? A hundred times? I don't know if she ever did. Not doing a live fucking performance, but like practicing and training and shit. Yeah, but not at this age.

She falls and those bowls crack, she'll sever her head. No, she will not. There's a massive chance. What is your guys' deal? I was thinking more like broken neck. No, she will not. There's a massive chance. What is your guys' deal? I was thinking more like broken neck. AJ, don't be encouraging this. Let's get out of here. Shout out to Red Panda.

Love you, Red Panda. How about AQ throwing his bulls? Pretty good. There was one he threw a little juice high and outside. That's the one that dropped. Yeah, it might have been. We haven't looked at the timing. He's been off or not. AQ did great, as did you, Darius. Thank you for your work. AJ, great work this week.

All the boys, great work this week. Hell of a week. Honorable week. Legendary week. And let's have an amazing weekend. Let's be nice to each other. Let's say kind things. Even if we don't mean them, let's deliver them as if we do

so that that person thinks that you did. And then you just both go your separate ways and maybe a little bit better feeling was on the interaction. Boom. That's what life is. Let's make the world a better place. Let's be nice to each other. We'll see you on Overreaction Monday.

With so much fallout from the NFL draft, the NHL playoffs, the NBA playoffs, and the Janet Jackson concert that's happening tonight in State Farm Arena down there in Atlanta that got postponed for the Atlanta Hawks to lose last night. Although Trey Young is a fucking dog. They will have to be getting over their playoff loss

with Jan Jackson tonight. Still nice. Love you, Jan. Jan was an absolute dog. That concert's going to be incredible. I hope Trey Young goes and has a good time because the performance he put on is championship worthy. Well, I don't think I'd go that far, but yeah, he played well. He hit a step back in your city's fucking face.

To go down 3-2. Hats off to him. Have a good weekend, everybody. We'll see you on Monday. Goodbye!