The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 897 - Shams Charania, Ian Rapoport, Mike Rupp & Pacman Jones LIVE In The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: May 3, 2023

On today's show, Pat, Pacman Jones, Mike Rupp, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about last night's incredible NBA Playoffs action, the NHL Playoffs heating up, and all the different NFL news that has been floating around including all the guys who got their 5th year option picked up, who didn't, and what it coming next in the NFL schedule. Joining the progrum to break down the Lakers and Knicks massive wins last night, Dillon Brooks not coming back to the Grizzlies under no circumstances, why the Nuggets are such a wagon, injury updates including Joel Embiid coming back and Chris Paul being out, and much more is NBA Insider for The Athletic, Stadium, and Fanduel TV, Shams Charania (1:18:13-1:42:49). Later, NFL Network Senior Insider and friend of the show, Ian Rapoport joins the progrum to discuss everything post NFL Draft, what comes next for him and the NFL, what trades and free agents might percolate over the coming weeks, and how he's feeling going into the Kentucky Derby with a horse in the race (2:04:19-2:36:29). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people. Welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this winter Wednesday, May 3rd, 2023, this sports program starts right now. Much more! You know how much more to all of you. Hell yeah. People were way too kind and nice to me yesterday, and honestly, it was a bit overwhelming and a bit much, but I can't thank everybody enough for how kind they were in the messages that I received for turning another year

older. Now at the age of 36, I'm starting to realize maybe I get a little bit tired in the morning. Is that right? Yeah, I might have tied on a little bit too hard yesterday in the eating and the vitamins department. In the up at night trying to respond to people that text me, which I am starting.

There you go. Good job. It's respond to people that text me, which I am starting. There you go. I know we were talking about that yesterday. It's going to take a long time, but I believe everybody that has reached out to me from all the different eras of my life and said nice things deserve a, hey, I appreciate the hell out of you. Very, very thankful for how nice everybody was. But this morning I got out here on this Thunderbolt court, I couldn't move. Oh, no.

This is what happens. Now I'm sore. Now my popliteus is still intact, which was a little bit sore a couple weeks ago. The knees did not just blow completely, but I wasn't moving like I was just yesterday. It's going to happen. Things have changed a little bit here.

This is what 36 is, all right? So anytime you're younger than that, you should be thinking to yourself, let's live. Okay, good to know. And then whenever you turn 36, what I'm realizing is you're just going to have to be okay. You're going to have to accept some things that happen. Foxy hit a ball by me today that I could never have

got to. Really? And I was like, holy shit. Just two days ago. Had it in your back. That thing's getting bent back over there. You weren't the same person this morning. Thank you. Neither were you, Foxy. You were a better you. And that's what we're all trying to be. Thank you. Every single day. What I'm saying is you're just going to have to change your are a better you. And that's what we're all trying to be every single day. What I'm saying is you're just going to have to change your perspective a little bit.

And from what I've been told in a couple weeks, my perspective is about to get changed completely. So I'm thankful for everybody. Foxy Goodwin's this morning. Tone has been playing fantastic. The morning Thunderball boys have a routine now. We have a schedule. We're getting a little bit more coordinated and under control. In one half of the Hammer, Don Cowboys, Tone Diggs,

who is hosting a daily gambling show out of the Thunderdome called Hammer Don every single day after our show ends and picking winners. Last night, the talk show tape was obviously here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt and 14-year NFL icon who looks so cool today. Holy shit. That's the first time that I've actually had a chance to look over there

celebrating the big win that Tone had just yesterday with a Lakers jersey on, Pac-Man Jones. So, Tone, I kind of want to start with you here, pal. Last night, the matchup of the generation. LeBron James and Steph Curry. Who's the actual greatest of the current era? Who's the person that deserves a little bit more spotlight? Who's the person that should be in the actual conversations of Mount Rushmore's

in greatest of all time? That's what people were trying to spin this into after Steph Curry dropped 50 in a Game 7 with the Game trying to spin this into after Steph Curry dropped 50 in a game seven with the game seven record and everything else that Steph Curry has accomplished in changing the game. Has it been overshadowed by LeBron James? We'll find out right here

on TNT's fucking fantastic. They're the best. Hey, it is. That show is so good. That show is so so good. I really enjoy what they're cooking over there. But the NBA hasn't figured it out right now. And last night, you thought that the Lakers were going to get the dub. I did not expect that.

To be honest, whenever I turned that game on, as a LeBron James fan, I thought to myself, Steph, with how hot he was up there, those buckets are big. Did you see Draymond? He was running. Draymond was scooting around. Klay Thompson was making some shots early. Felt like they were not going to win that one,

although I do believe it's going to go to seven games regardless. You had the Lakers winning first. Why was that? And what do you think this means for the rest of the series? Yeah, in gambling, you're trying to find the angle. What's the angle? What's the angle? What's the angle?

And last night, the angle for me was we all watched Sunday, game seven against the Kings, the Warriors, and they actually showed during a timeout where Steve Kerr went up to Curry Curry was sitting by himself and he's like hey I got four timeouts this has been a seven game series I'm gonna call timeouts just for you to get rest like at the end of this game now he didn't have to play a lot of fourth quarter because he had 50 and they were up 20 or whatever but they they still played a seven-game series and still finished on Sunday. So they only had one day off in between that and going from Sacramento back to Golden State.

So I thought maybe, you know, maybe a tired legs potentially. And guess what? Tired legs for shooters is never a good thing. Lakers have been off also since Friday. So, you know, they've had time to regroup, time to watch tape, stuff like that. And then also, Looney, what he did rebounding-wise against the Kings was not going to happen, I didn't think, last night against the Lakers. So I liked the Lakers in game one, even though it was on the road.

Yeah, and it was at Oracle where they've been incredible. I don't know if it's going to go the whole series that way, but I like that angle for game one last night. It turned out to be right. AD dropped 30. Hey, hey, baby. Hey. Hey, baby, AD.

Coming out party. 30 and 23, five assists, four blocks. What a dog, man. Joins Tim Duncan as the only players in NBA history to reach those numbers in a playoff game. A lot of conversation about this guy from the basketball folks. We are not basketball folks. No.

Old punter, stooge punter, tank top. Talks football mostly. NBA playoffs have been electrifying. Yes, they have. But with the basketball people, we will be to shams rania uh at 120 about an hour and 13 minutes he's like the insider right now of the internet oh yeah he and everybody else is kind of chatting and the narrative is you know ad's like a motion field guy you know he's very hard on himself so everybody thinks that he's gotten lazy since he got rich it's not that he. He just once the money came, he was like, alright, now I gotta

live up to this. He almost beats himself up too much. Then we started to see him come alive a little bit. It's like, wait, is this old AD back? Is this AD back? Seems like last night he was packed. You gotta be pumped for your guy, Bron. I'm pumped, man. Bron got him playing good. AD looked like AD in the bubble.

This was the AD that we was used to with no distraction, not worrying about, hey, am I playing at a high level? God damn it. Focus in, man. We only need you to do this shit for three fucking games. If you can do this shit for three games, LeBron can handle the rest. I truly think, and me and Conor was going back and forth about this,

if the Lakers get up two games and lose the series, I'll cut half of my hair. Half of it. There's no way. Not length half. Hold on. You should clarify. What the hell just happened? Like head half.

There's no way if the Lakers get up two that they lose the series. Okay, sounds good. There was no reason for you to do that. But now that you did, we have to do this. That's right. So you're not going to take two quarters either. Like you're not going to go quarter down, quarter down. That is half. No, I'm going to do that. But now that you did, we have to do this. That's right. So you're not going to take two quarters either. You're not going to go quarter down, quarter down. That is half.

No, I'm going to do it. You're talking right down the middle. Middle. Half. Yep. Boom. Right down the middle. Are you going to do like what those...

I've been to a couple places where like... I don't like to just stereotype or generalize. Okay. But see my gothic? There was like a gothic. Oh, yeah. I knowhic. Oh, yeah. I know exactly. Oh, yeah.

Those are cool. There's a shave here. And then like the – are you doing that with the – The fold over. Will you keep the long hair on this side? And will there potentially be a little bit of like one or two that just stick over the shave part of the – would that be a comb over?

Yeah, a bit of a comb over. Which the Knicks coach needs to figure it out. Oh, Tibbito? We're not in the NBA world. We're not in the NBA world. We're not in the basketball world. I assume if we were, we would have pointed this out earlier. Looks like he's got a good head just to shave that dick. Oh, he's fighting it. But would you do that?

Would you do a comb-over with that thing, or would you just let those sit straight down and then just be completely balded, faded? That's cool. Fade bald? I don't know, but... Not like that. No, no, no. What are you talking about, then? I don't know, but... Yeah, that's Pac-Man. Not like that. No, no, no, no. What are you talking about then?

I don't think I fully... It'll be like this half. Like half. Oh, so you're doing like a third. Yeah. Okay, so it's a third. Right down the middle. And since he just offered this up,

I would like to let the world know I'm accepting his third offer. As opposed to a 50. We were in the middle of a little bit of a bar there. Yes, exactly. But he has been the one making it. You're going to cut a third of your hair. He'll make it a 50. We were in the middle of a little bit of a bar there. Yes, exactly. But he has been the one making the... You're going to cut

a third of your hair. He'll make it look cool. The deal was, if Brandon get up 2-0 and they lose the series, yeah, I will. I feel like that was an interesting thing to do.

He just said it, too. There's no, like, I bet you this, I bet you this. It was just, I'll cut off half my hair. Yeah, good proper fodder over there.

Shit, I'm going to cut off half of it anyway if I lose because I'm betting too much money on this series. Oh, okay. So, there's no way to get up to a lose. Boom. All right, well, we're proud of you, man.

You could have it in the conversation every yonder. To bring it in the microphone just for everybody to hear it. That's really cool, man. Tim got it on camera, too, just in case. That's unbelievable. So a third of your hair will be gone if the Lakers go up two, which would have to be another big-time win on the road.

Would be very difficult. If they do that, back at the Crypt, dude. Crypto.com? Oh, yeah. Come on. Scripto.com more likely. They ain't going to lose back there. Place is too powerful. That is a beautiful place. Oh, yeah. Gorgeous.

Beautiful arena. Wonderful place. They've updated a lot of things. Yeah, and Ballmer's next one is going to be even better. It's crypto. Toilets! That's crypto. Never crypto.

Crypto is dead. I've seen people pose in front of the crypto. I think that it is like... Sign? People like it. I haven't heard anything about crypto. Oh, man. I saw an NFT.

It was hot at one point. You don't hear a lot about things that are dead. Yeah. That's why I was wondering. Staples is also dead, though. Let's keep that in mind. It is. The only thing that Staples had left was Staples Center.

Bingo. Yeah. Literally the arena. That's because you can't successfully run a big box paper store. That's right. Paper's done. That's good call. Staples is in a tough spot.

They are. It is. They had to see it coming and just go, yikes. Here's the Bitcoin stuff. I don't know if they saw it. You got to buy the dips. Remember, that's what the whole thing was. Yeah.

It's still like, what, $28,300? That's unreal. Or is that? I would go five days because, I mean, the fact that they're at $28,300, I thought it was down to like $15,000. Yeah, that's not. Hey, $28,300. It was up to $68,000. Yeah, I think it was close to $80,000. Remember, this was the future here. It was down to like 15. Yeah, that's not... Hey, 28,300. It was up to... It was down to 80.

68? Yeah, I think it was close to 80. Remember, this was the future here. It was. Right. You know, I'm happy we brought this up. Hell yeah. So, it's in the blockchain?

It is in the blockchain, yes. It is in the blockchain. Okay, then nobody can decipher. No, no. And the reason why it's good is because it's not actual money and it's not organized by anybody or whatever. There's no... Right, nothing.

Decentralized. It's decentralized. There it is. But a fungible thing is the most important part of that. You lose your key. You're fucked. Yeah, you lose everything. Oh, yeah.

People have lost hundreds of millions, I think. USB drive, people have lost it. So you still have to... The most important thing is still very real. Very fungible. It's an actual fungible thing.

And passwords. If you lose passwords, you're also fucked. Like, it's an actual fungible thing. And passwords. If you lose passwords, you're also fucked. Man, that's a scary thing for me to get over. Okay, so. What if they steal it? All right, see, that's a whole other game. They could. The AI Frank Abagnale, the guy from Catch Me If You Can.

The AI Frank Abagnale is going to be a dog. Yeah. We need to know that. He's out there somewhere. What will Bitcoin be worth in 2030? Yeah, okay. Sure. What?

This is what Google, this is Google. Yeah, and I'm going to be playing center field for the Yankees. No, it's not. Maybe. I mean, there's a chance. Projections, what are they? Can we 4X these things? No, that's from ChanJelly.com.

That's not from Google. You're right. And Changely would never lie, but Google had to put them at the top of the, this is the right answer. That's a whole other thing that's happening. So whenever you ask questions into Google that might be a little bit opinion-based, all of a sudden, who picked the answer to be the answer? People that like it. How many people have went to jail from Bitcoin? Ask Google that.

All right. Siri, I think you got to say Siri. How many people have gone to jail from stealing Bitcoin is what you're saying? Yeah, this is all a fucking Ponzi. No, Ponzi. You're telling me people are stealing this? You think people are stealing this? No, I'm just saying like nothing backs it.

Tell me what backs it. Yeah, none of it. That's the. No one knows. This particular. A guy, I'm going to say, oh, you got to have a leader of the something, something to pay him to join a group and this and that. Doesn't make sense. Doesn't make sense. Fact.

Doesn't make sense. We didn't get involved. Plenty of opportunities were presented to us to potentially promote and do that whole thing. I was just too dumb. I didn't understand it. Hold on. NFTs, too. My buddy was like, yeah, man, I'm telling you, man, $2,000,

maybe $5,000, three more years and we were for a million dollars. Guaranteed. John McAfee said he cut off his dick. Yeah, he did. That was actually happening. People were pitching me concepts of coins and this whole thing because we were an internet company, internet show. Obviously, there was a lot of those opportunities.

And every person I talked to, I just go and figure it out. I said, so this is like Wall Street, but even worse. They're like, no, it's decentralized. I'm like, well, who controls Wall Street? And they started like, listen up, people. I'm like, okay, couldn't all those same people that just have all the money go control that whole thing too? But it's not a set up system.

I'm like, well, who controls it? Just tell me who's controlling whether or not my money that I've worked for that I did not have when I was growing up and now that I have, is just going poof, David Copperfield. Tell me who's going to do that because that's happened to poker players, online poker players. Their money just disappeared. Happened to real estate folks in 2008,

which is one year before I got into the NFL. A lot of my teammates, all the rich people that I've met, these are the rich people that I know in my life are the people that were in the locker room. And like 10 of them are telling me horror stories of losing all of their money the year before. So I've been very like, eh, I just rather have my money, man. Yeah.

Need to see where it's going. I like to see where it's going. Hey, pal, you got poor, that's fiscal irresponsibility or whatever. It's like, okay, buying 300 buying 300 shots i guess is considered a poor decision financially but also at least i saw where it went that's right yeah and we at least had a yeah exactly great times so whenever your 300 shots disappears on your phone like what did you just opened an app and it was like oh it's gone fuck you know a little different yeah but that money's not gonna disappear it's gone. You know, a little different. Yeah, but that money

is not going to disappear. It's going to go up. I'm like, I'm sure. Good luck. It is crazy how money is. It's a wild time right now, too. Especially in that whole entire field, like the stock market and everything like that. It's in the shitter right now. Yeah, but they're always going to be, that's where all the money is, right? Isn't all the money there?

Because like the, if you zoom out from when it started to where it is, it's obviously's obviously just now there's somebody right now watching this who is a financial advisor or something and they're telling me how we do have investments of course okay but this is not in just blind stocks these are things that we can see yeah feel understand and affect right you know what i mean like that is uh that whole thing i don't understand that i'm gonna give money to some person and then they're just going to do it all. But I think it's mostly because I just don't trust any of those humans

to just do better with it. Funny enough. There's some talented fucking people out there that turn money into a lot of money. For sure. Bruce just got a financial advisor today. Bruce? Boy, Bruce. Bruce knows.

He comes up from the place, though. From that side. That's like, hey, this is what advisor today. Bruce. Bruce. Boy, Bruce. Bruce knows. He comes up from the place, though. From that side. That's like, hey, this is what we do. Yeah. We literally, you get a money guy. Money guy does this for you. This whole thing happens. You get this person that does this for you.

It's like, we've done that. But that whole, yeah, hey, just take it, man. Good luck out there. Go get them. Might never see it again. They're like, oh, that's going to be tough for me. That's going to be tough for me to do. Yeah.

But they're all so much smarter. Bitcoin, though. We'll hope it rise up. Yeah. At some point. Speaking of money, though, that's going to be tough for me. That's going to be tough for me to do. But they're all so much smarter. Bitcoin, though, we'll help it rise up. At some point. Speaking of money, though, let's talk about fifth-year options that were picked up and were not picked up around the NFL. We missed it yesterday in the absurdity that was the celebration. Peyton Manning came on yesterday. Aaron Rodgers came on yesterday. Michael Cole came on yesterday. Jim Furyk, too. Let's not forget him.

Jimmy! Jimmy! Here's the 12 players, though, that we missed having their fifth-year options picked up. Joe Burrow, obviously. $29.5 million. That's the 12 players, though, that we missed having their fifth-year options picked up. Joe Burrow, obviously, $29.5 million. That's number one overall, baby. That's number one overall. Andrew Thomas, $14.1 million. Tua Tongvaloa, $23 million.

That's number five overall. Justin Herbert, $29.5 million. I don't think I fully comprehend that. Derek Brown, he got drafted after Tua Tongvaloa. Maybe it's games played, had him do it. Performance? I don't know. Because Herbert got drafted after Tua Tongvaloa. Maybe it's games played, had him do it. Performance? I don't know. Because Herbert also drafted after Tua.

Tom Telesco, right, he would have to put in some incentive-based things that aren't in other contracts because he got one pick after. Not for us to figure out right now. Hold on to the discussion. Derrick Brown, $11.6 million. Jedrick Willis, $14.1 million. Tristan Wirth, Jerry Judy, AJ, CD. Justin Jefferson, Brandon Ayuk.

Okay, congratulations to all these men. Here we go, boys. Getting fully guaranteed deals. Now, if you don't get your fifth-year option picked up, that means you're on a contract here. So, congratulations. More motivation. And there's 14 players that have had their fifth-year options declined.

The top of the list is obviously chase young because remember coming out of the ohio state this guy was a game wrecker oh yeah game changer had a couple injuries we didn't get to see him play expectations was he was going to be back he was just doing a little media run uh last week because he signed with chris paul's new balance clutch yep collab b. Which Adele was wearing courtside at the Lakers the other day. Boom. Makes sense. How about Adele and Rich Paul? Yeah, what a power couple.

That's a fucking. Oh, yeah. Anyways, Chase, also repped by Chris Paul. Man, I bet you he has seen like. Oh, yeah. In like the shower. People wonder what else he's seen. What are you talking about?

Just saying. The internet is the best. Anyways, Chase Young is repped by Chris Paul, Isaiah Semen, CJ Henderson, Makai Becton, Big Dog. He got hurt a couple times, right? Yeah, Javon Kinlaw, Austin Jackson, Jalen Rager, Cesar Rui. Okay, you get it.

All these guys, though, CEH, man, he was the guy until Pacheco came around this year. And also, I think another running back. Derek McKinnon. Yeah. So, congrats to these guys. You're on a contract year, man. Here we go. Now, obviously, your fifth-year option is what the contract already has in it from the day that you're on a contract year man now obviously your fifth year option is what the

contract already has in it from the day that you're drafted even though we don't fully comprehend why justin herbert is making six million more dollars than to a tongue valoa even though he was drafted after to a tongue valoa someone's gonna have to explain that to me but you could potentially go get yourself a long-term deal if you ball out now it does feel as if there could be a chance where you feel disrespected by the organization. And, you know, we got humans here. Yeah. These are actual humans, not just Madden characters.

Exactly. And we've seen people delete, you know, Instagram photos. Oh, yeah. In this modern era. I'm getting the fuck out of here. And they do. So I guess there's two ways to go about this. I can either earn a long-term contract or I can be pissed at the organization

for not believing that I'm worth a fifth-year option, even though just a few years back I was your first-round overall pick. Let's go ahead and do this. And I hope it's all positive for everybody. And congrats to the guys that got their fifth-year options picked up because they're richer. And I assume a deal's going to get made for Joe Burrow. That's going to make him very wealthy.

And I assume there's going to be a deal with Justin Herbert. That's going to make him very wealthy. And I assume there's going to be a deal with Justin Herbert, that's going to make him very wealthy. Justin Jefferson, same damn thing. You can go through that list there, but these guys get free agency a little bit quicker. Yeah, the shotgun one, obviously Chase Young kind of makes sense because he hasn't played, so maybe they just want to see how he is. But Jordan Brooks, he's been like Seattle's

damn near best player on defense. He was the guy that they actually felt comfortable with cutting Bobby Wagner because they knew he was going to be the next one. I thought he's been top five in tackles basically every single year he's been in the league. Patrick Queen, similar to that on the Ravens. Maybe linebackers just

might be cheaper just to knock them the fifth. Oh, no, they're getting the running back situation. Yeah, exactly. Oh, no, Pat. And they paid Roquan, so maybe that's why they like Patrick Queen, never mind. I'm still surprised by Chase. Chase, when. Oh, no, Pat. And they paid Roquan. So maybe that's why they like Patrick Queen, never mind. I'm still surprised by Chase. Chase, when Chase healthy, he's been unstoppable. He hasn't played in a whole year.

But, like, shit, they had so much shit going on in Washington. Can we blame Chase for not fucking playing? Yeah, I wonder how they view it, how they talk to Chase. Because if you do worry he can't stay healthy, I guess the right move would be like, hey, you stay healthy this year, we'll give you a big time deal. Exactly. You know what I mean?

They could view it that way. But they have no leverage now. Chase is a star over there, too. Yeah. Is it worse than what we think? Like, is there a chance that his knee, whether the surgery might not have gone well? The medical staff over there, too.

Wasn't Chase supposed to play? Oh, yeah. He played like the last three games, played some snaps the last three games, so hopefully you would think he's healthy going into this last year. But yeah, that's because Tomlin's thing, I ain't never going to draft high enough to get someone who looks like you.

Yeah, well, you're thinking Chase Young comes to the Pittsburgh Steelers. No, I was thinking we probably don't need an outside guy like him, but you know, somebody. Somebody could get him. I would imagine if he can stay at least somewhat healthy, he'll be one of those guys who someone's going to pay for. For sure. Hell yeah. Come to Indianapolis, dude.

Take a shot on you. Because Darnell Washington is that guy. That's true. We just did a draft. Okay. 12 guys from that draft got a fifth year option. Does that mean 12 guys were successful in that draft? That's a good draft, right? Yeah.

That's a pretty good draft. Great draft. Think about that though. With how we reacted to every single draft pick and this year how positive it was, which we're happy. Yeah. Because there is a chance to go negative on every single draft pick. 100%.

You could be negative on literally every single draft pick if you wanted to be. So why not? Hey, maybe this guy. Almost half. You could go. Yeah. We're mostly positive for this last draft. Very.

Yeah. There's going to be 20, 26, 20, 25 guys. Yeah. Probably not. Not be good football players. Not going to get it done. You know what I mean? There's going to be a lot of people covering kicks in that.

You know what I mean? Yeah. There's going to be a lot of that happening. And that's not a bad thing. I'm appreciative of that. But that's going to be an interesting ride watching something. But on the flip side, there's going to be two to three guys from this draft class that just got drafted. Absolute dogs.

Transnational talents. Definitely. I mean, right now we can still say all of them are going to be that way. guys from this draft class that just got drafted. Absolute dogs. Translational talents. Definitely. I mean, right now we can still say all of them are going to be that way because we don't know which guy it is going to be or guys it's going to be. Situation certainly can affect that. So the guys that are being projected to be guys, if you're getting picked early, you're probably going into a pretty bad situation. That's why you're being picked in the early spot because we need you right now

because we fucked up so bad we're this early in the draft some of those guys ain't just gonna be able to do that no but some of those guys are that's right hell yeah and congrats to all the fifth year options that are getting picked up four years from now and the guys that just got drafted last weekend yeah congrats dude jordan love also didn't get his fifth year picked up but yeah he got a contract so he got a move he got a money move right mulageta gave him got him and uh the packers to agree to a deal in which pretty much what the guarantee would be for his fifth year option with how much he played i assume it has to be playing has to be playing time for the herbert Tua thing being in there. So, Jordan's, who knows what his would be, fifth-year option.

He was drafted 26th? Yeah. 26th overall. Hasn't played much. Hasn't played a fucking down. Oh, yes, yes. Remember? They're a couple touchdowns.

Christian Watson. This is crazy. Hey, Darius Slade said, you know who you look like back there? I don't want to say anything. You look a little bit like Roger. The boy was spinning. That's what he said. So, anyways, Mulligata got a money up front, I think.

Yes. And it's a two-year deal. Right. Okay, got it. Mulugeta. Because he was only going to get. Well, we don't know. We were trying to figure this deal out yesterday.

He was only going to get $2.3 million, and now they guaranteed him, what, $13.5. And it's just like. It's a $6 million wager for a $2 million potential bonus. Exactly. And it's one of those things where if he is the guy this year, then they'll rework a deal and he'll be the guy moving forward. But I think it's for both of them because it's like if Jordan Love isn't the guy, then the Packers are going to end up just cutting bait with him

and probably moving on. After this year. After this year, and also for him, it's like his next contract looks vastly different for a first-round pick. So I think it's fair for both guys when they still like they believe in him they they've seen what he can do obviously and they they felt good enough about him to get rid of rogers but it kind of just gives both the packers and him a little sense of security i think as soon as i heard it and it also uh it is like very helpful for their cap as well okay good news so it's a smart play for the packer side from

jordan love side immediately upon reading it and i like like like as i'm reading it and i go what's the fifth year option for you we just saw justin herbert's 29 and a half million or something yeah granted he's sixth overall pick for his 26 overall but with the way money is in his whole thing like that contract would be big so then you start diving into it it's literally just a little bit of a wager of a couple million to get a bonus of two million but it is money up front right now that potentially could never come if he stinks this year exactly so and then i heard mulligetta was negotiating it i'm like it's a good deal yeah he's not screwing him up if mulligetta likes the deal we like there's no reason for us to say it so congrats to jordan and to the packers for seemingly doing the right thing here for both

parties yeah for sure that's a good deal that's good that's good start to the heyers for seemingly doing the right thing here for both parties. Yeah, for sure. That's a good deal. That's a good start to the, hey, let's do business together. That is a quarterback and GM in the new era in Green Bay. I'm happy for him. I think a lot of people were trying to kind of like poke holes in this and say like either this is bullshit for Jordan Love or like why would the Packers do this? But when you look at it, like most of the fans I saw on Twitter too,

like I really do think this benefits him and it benefits the Packers. Like it kind of just ends there. Like it's good for both sides. And now we'll see what he can do. I am pretty pumped to see the new era of the Green Bay Packers. Me too. Because Aaron comes on yesterday. Surprise.

Shout out Aaron Rodgers Tuesday. Happy birthday. That was cool. From a hotel. Sweet. Sweet hotel. Yeah, he looked like he had the nice room there. Top floor.

Everything he said, though. You know, everything he said. I've seen Packers people quote, tweet, share it to their people or whatever. Not everything, but most things. And not every person did this, but people certainly did. Happy the sky isn't our problem anymore. You know, like a lot of that whole thought. I hope the Packers go on to have success.

After talking to Aaron yesterday, I mean, he – right, like – He was giddy. He's in a great place, it feels like. Yeah, dude. Like, I think that's going to work over there. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. I think it is going to work over there, especially with him saying,

I think I can throw the ball until I'm 60. He has heard people say he's old. Yeah. So he is finally, I think, everybody else kind of talks shit about the way he throws the ball. We do, because what the fuck he does with the football is absolutely absurd. I mean, wait until Jets training camp.

They're going to have the Nets over there in New York. You think it's going to be a little different reaction whenever it's in the tri-state area with how many motherfuckers are over there versus Green Bay? Now the internet is always going to react how it's going to react. That's going to be local news everywhere. Aaron Rodgers just dropped a 45-yard bomb into a net or whatever. He does that normally right out of his sleep.

He's in the offseason, and then he just comes in, and he just starts throwing dimes everywhere. That's why every human that's ever played has said, yeah, the way Aaron throws a football is just bananas. Then people start saying, was a future first potentially worth it for a 39-year-old quarterback? What are you saying there? Are you saying he can't throw anymore?

Is that what people are saying? Like, 39-year-old. So the fact that that's in there, you're saying he's washed. He's old. So you think he's deteriorated a little bit? I think he has heard that. I think he has heard that loud and clear. And I think there's a chance. I mean, because he's throwing balls in May.

From what we've potentially been told, this is not a throw month normally for Aaron. There's like a whole process of how he works up his arm. And he talked about the COVID training camp and everything like that. This dude throws the ball on a fucking dot with that offense, with how many weapons they have and the run game that they potentially have and how pissed off he seems to be so that means he's gonna be more focused more bought in more everything not that he wasn't before the guy just won two fucking mvps right you don't think he's studying all day every day to win mvps yes he's clearly doing that but it's like a brand i really after talking to him yesterday i watched a couple clips back i'm like this motherfucker

seems genuinely like proud to be on the jets you know. I'm like, this motherfucker seems genuinely proud to be on the Jets. Oh, yeah. He's proud to be a Jet, it feels like, and he's wearing it all. I'm very pumped for him. I also think anyone saying the shit about him being washed or whatever, it goes back to when he said the whole down years for me are career years for other guys. Last year, yeah, by his standards, he didn't have a great year.

I think he threw like 24 touchdowns and had like 11 picks if fucking derrick carr does that people are going crazy saying look how look how well derrick carr played last year but because it's rogers it's like a completely different thing and also like you look at it like you know i think it kind of gets washed away just because of zach wilson whatever like the jets have a good team like they don't right they don't need rogers to go out and throw 50 touchdowns next year. Now, he might because he's got a chip on his shoulder and he's pissed off, but they don't need him to have a 50 touchdown, six interception MVP year. That doesn't need to happen.

If he plays how he did in Green Bay last year, that Jets team makes the playoffs, period. Look out for the AFC East pack. Yeah, this is going to be ugly, but that contract that your quarterback got is the same thing that he wrote that apology letter to Aaron Rodgers. It was a shitty letter. It's a shitty contract. It was just to get, hey, let me let y'all know I'm dabbing in there.

As far as I'm talking about the bullshit contract. What, Jordan Love? Yeah. He know what I'm talking about. The same way they wrote the letter. Oh, we love Aaron. No, it's bullshit. Oh, it was our first quotes.

Yeah. I didn't even know when we got it. You think that was a bad deal? Why do you think it was a bad deal? Why would Jordan Love sign a deal to tie himself up for another year when he'll be a free agent? And it's not like he's going no fucking way else. Because what if he sucks? And then if he is a free agent, then he doesn't get a deal.

That's my point. It might be he has a point in the back of his head that he might suck. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. You think he thinks. Oh. Especially with a dog. God save.

It's smart. I'm just saying, any dog that's got any belief in themselves, that haven't played no ball in four years, that contract is already fucking guaranteed. Y'all don't pick up my option. I want to prove it. Yeah, but it's safe for both teams. Like, if he does suck, then okay, the Packers get a really good, probably top 10 pick,

and then they can go and get another quarterback, and they still have him on the roster. Oh, maybe they get Drake May or Cale Williams. Cale Williams. They're saying he's the next Pat Mahomes. Hey, I saw some highlights. He was running backwards doing the Patrick Mahomes. I'm going to run backwards. Yeah.

And then throw it real far. It is a cool play. Fuck Chicago on his fingernails. Yeah. Fuck Bears. I will say I'm a Caleb fan. I am a Caleb fan. I did not like the nail thing, but hey, to each their own.

Do your thing. I'm a J-E-T-S fan this year. I don't know what Conor is going to do. Conor, it looked really bad for you guys this year. Yeah, that's what Pat was just alluding to with the AFC East. I mean, when everyone's saying the Patriots are going to suck, usually everyone's right because that's how that works. If everyone's on one side, then every single person's right versus when something else happens.

But I obviously don't have high expectations. As a Patriots fan, the Jets are going to be good. The Bills and the Dolphins are already good. And, I mean, you guys mentioned it. The Jets started, I think, 6- have high expectations. As a Patriots fan, the Jets are going to be good. The Bills and the Dolphins are already good. And, I mean, you guys mentioned it. The Jets started, I think, 6-2 last year. They beat Green Bay in Green Bay. They have great wins already. But if Aaron is to go on, even just to go to the Super Bowl,

it'll probably be the most impressive feat of his career just because they're playing AFC West, which has three contenders. They're playing the NFC East, which had three playoff teams last year. The AFC East had two playoff teams last year. So they got to play the AFC South? Well, no, because if they play the AFC South, then it would probably be the least impressive thing of his career because those are just four cakewalks.

So what you just did there was disgusting. Let me tell you why. What I did. You think I'm going to be offended because the Indianapolis Colts? No. No, I'm not going to be offended because of that. I'm going to talk about what's going on down in Tennessee. Yeah.

What Derrick Henry's doing right now. What's that? People are wondering about who's the quarterback, who's this, who's that. Derrick Henry's like, y'all motherfuckers have forgot. The Tennessee Titans go through the defensive end that plays running back. Yeah. And now he's running up hills. That's right.

This dude's training by sprinting up hills. And by the looks of him, okay, from the way his body is built, we should assume that he's been doing this his entire life. This is battling gravity. This is fighting earth. This is conquering something that is very difficult to do. We can go through a list of people that run hills and what their success was.

How about Walter Payton? He was pretty fucking good. I'd say. How about Jerry Rice? He was pretty fucking good. LaDainian Tomlinson did it because Jerry Rice did it. Set the record. Trent Williams did it.

Pretty good. Adrian Peterson did it. We assume Dan Marino, Joe Montana, and everybody from the city of Pittsburgh did it because literally we were forced to do it growing up. And if you look at most people, I think from very hilly places, you're probably going to see a rather fatter ass. And that's because, yep, West Virginia mountaineers, literally. All humans are going to be a little thicker because we're doing the fucking Stairmaster literally all day as kids growing up walking around.

Now, some people are going to be built lean. Of course. Nick's got little baby legs. Foxy, obviously, has never had to battle gravity one time while walking. No running hills. This guy's got toothpicks for legs. He's literally the H&M model mannequin out there. He looks so cool, though.

Not a lot of hills where I'm from, to your point. But the hills are a great fucking training tool and i think the people that are open about it believe in it so much because of how much they feel it has helped them once you start running on it's like you run with weights it's a little bit harder yeah you start running up hills not only your muscles growing but once you get on flat land you're all the way back you can talk about that when you drive through like ohio or indiana and then you go back to Pittsburgh. It's like life is a lot easier when everything's flat.

When you can't really see what's around the bend or have to battle against a fucking steep incline, it makes you better. Derrick Henry's ready to prove a point, you think. My fucking kid's running hills, too. Let's go. Yeah, hell yeah. I'm a big believer in it. It's over speed, make you run really fast when you run on regular.

It's like running in sand. Yeah. It makes running harder. That's exactly right. I got a nice one by my house. My kids run every Wednesday. They're going to be on that motherfucker today, too. Hey, good luck out there, Junie.

Good luck. Hey, Junie, you want to keep winning those races? Hey. Running the hill. Junie, who is Pac-Man Jr.? Yeah. He's six years old? Yep.

Well, he's five. Sorry, he ain't six years. He running six. Yeah. He's six years old? Yep. Well, he's five. Sorry, he ain't six years. He running six or nine. He's five. Oh, he's racing six-year-olds right now. Has raced seven-year-olds, eight-year-olds. Yeah. And I'm just learning about what humans look like

at these different ages. Sure. Not been around a lot of kids. Learned. It's not really my thing. No. About to be. Yeah.

Big time. So I'm trying to learn as much as possible about like what are expectations at what age just seen a 15 year old girl assigned to the u.s women's national team it's like okay if my baby girl happens to be good at soccer and likes to do that it's like all right here's the here is possible yeah this is possible yes it is like that's a big deal to have that's good good inspiration. His kid, we got real form. Oh, yeah? We got, like, real speed, too.

Flying. He's going to be a dog, huh? Yeah, he's going to be a dog. June's going to be a dog, man. He's got personality, too. Yeah. His dude's a dog. He watched the clip back yesterday from us talking about him.

Mm-hmm. Because he talks shit immediately. He started running. I was like, yo, look at this. He's like, seen that Gini? He's like, dad, I'm famous. I'm like, no, fuck that. Immediately. Fucking get your ass back to work. Hey, June, Senegini? It's like that. I'm famous. I'm like, no. Immediately.

Fucking get your ass back to work. Hey, Juney, you're about to be, man. Keep winning those races. But shout out to Derrick Henry getting after it. He was kind of forgotten about. A little bit of an afterthought. Was he hurt last year? What happened to him last year?

We didn't really talk about him. So they lost their best guard, Rumblock and Saffold. He went to the Bills. Taylor LeJuan got hurt. And now they've lost Taylor LeJuan. Now they also, yeah, they released Ben Jonesold, he went to the Bills. Taylor LeJuan got hurt. And now they've lost Taylor LeJuan. Ben Jones got hurt a little bit. They released Ben Jones. He's not on the team anymore.

The Titans are, unfortunately, kind of fucked. But lost A.J. Brown, too. So he was kind of just. It was his name. Got hurt out of Arkansas. Did the body steal the thing? It looked like it. You see him running?

Yeah, he looks fine. I think we should be more worried about Will Levis possibly injuring an abdomen on a handoff because he might slam the ball in his stomach so hard. What's your problem? That's just what we've heard. It's a good year. It's a good year. Last year he had 1,500 fucking yards.

Oh, shit. 13 touchdowns. Oh, yeah. Didn't even talk about it. We are so sorry, Derek. For a point. They started to fucking stink. Yeah, they weren't good.

Dude, and also he was running against what? Like eight man boxes? At least. Because there's no A.J. Brown. Nothing. they weren't good dude and also he was running against what like eight man boxes at least yeah because there's no aj brown nothing there was a report from uh albert greer literally like five minutes before we went on i saw apparently uh that they were also in the mix to go up to three to try to get cj stroud and that was not it's not something that happened for them okay so they were thinking about doing that all the mocks had them going to three to get a quarterback if the Houston Texans had passed on C.J. Stroud at two, which

they did. Tennessee Titans, here we go! And then Houston's like, nah, we're taking three too. What are we even talking about? And then they get C.J. Stroud and then the Colts are up, obviously with Anthony Richardson. I think they had that pick in their head and mind immediately upon meeting him, I think.

I think the Colts did. But the Titans, we never talked about. They're going to be problematic if Derrick Henry's running like this. And they have any production at all on the offense. Did they add weapons to their team? I don't think so. Who is the quarterback? For who?

Tannehill. Why did Tannehill? He's getting $36 million. Pack the box. Pack the box. Make Tannehill beat him. They got Skronsky. Come on, man.

Skronsky should help the O-line. For sure. Traylon Burks was hurt. Well, he got that concussion last year when he actually scored the touchdown, which was pretty sick. Oh, yeah. That was awesome. Who's going to help Tannehill?

Other than that, exactly. They really don't have any people in the Jaguars or casually filthy. It feels like the Jags in the South. Ridley, too. The way he feels like Calvin Ridley feels. Listen, it's going to be a two-headed monster. All right? It's going to be the Indianapolis Colts, obviously.

Oh, really? Obviously. Not the team that had two picks in the top three? They took some nice wideouts, too. You're right. It's going to be a three-headed monster. We don't know. Actually, nobody wants to see the AFC South again.

No, but you know how they talk about some divisions having three guys, three teams make the playoffs with wild card because the record's so good? Hello from the AFC South. That's going to be us. Wait till you see what Anthony Richardson does here. I'm jacked up for it. Wait till you see what CJ Stroud does down in Houston, what D'Amico's able to do

with that defense and team that they got down. Will Anderson? This guy was number two overall pick. That's right. And then Trevor Lawrence. Once he started playing football with a coach, he was good. Yeah, he's pretty good. In the NFL.

They're balling. You know what I mean? I was talking about Tannehill, but nobody have stopped Derrick Henry in that division over there as far as rushing. I'm talking about quarterbacks now. Tannehill can't throw the ball. But as far as the division, I think Derrick Henry owns that division.

So there was actually a game a couple years back where DeForest Buckner was announced out against the Tennessee Titans. What was that, like two days before the game, three days before the game? And as soon as we heard that, DeForest Buckner obviously dug in the middle. He's a great player. I think he's a good person to have on this Indianapolis Colts team. He is so, they walk out of that fucking tunnel.

He is so massive of a human. He's out there. I think Derrick Henry rushed for 240 yards or something like that. Maybe five touchdowns that night. Yeah, and then last year. Those are not the actual stats, but he took the fucking game over.

That is what the Titans have that nobody else has, though, with Derrick Henry. Now, there's probably other running backs that could potentially do this and get into this. Now with the stable, the way offenses are being run, I don't know how often this is going to happen, but they can actually beat you down. So the thought that Will Levis is now in there, in the way he operates, with how pumped up and jacked up he is, they relish in

beating you down. Frabel will stick with the run game, even into the third quarter if they're down losing, and the run game hasn't worked. In the first half, only averaging 1.8 yards, or like 2.1 yards. And it's like, hey, we're down two scores.

Some teams, most teams panic. Hey, we need to start throwing the ball. We need to kind of get rid of the run. We can get rid of the run, and we won't have to answer for it because the averages were low. So we can easily say we wanted to run. We couldn't run. So we had to go to the pass game.

That's what a lot of offense coordinators say whenever they get super pass happy and it doesn't work out. They will come out right at the third quarter and be like, again? And they will literally just – and at some point, the defenses get tired. Now, with no weapons, you can just put eight in the box, and you're not just beating down one or two people the entire game, and then something's popping out. You're trying to beat down an entire defense.

So they've got to get some sort of production from the arm. But getting rid of A.J. Brown, maybe that fucked Tannehill too. Absolutely. For sure. That doesn't help him in this whole thing. And he's a guy who had to go away. Remember? Yeah.

He had to go away because how hard the loss hit him. So he's all in. The year before that, we played them in the playoffs with A.J. Brown and packed the box. And Tannehill couldn't make a throw. Oh, yeah. Down there. Joe Burrow got sacked nine times.

We whooped their ass. We played man-to-man the whole game. I mean, man-to-man. AJ by himself. Tannehill couldn't make a fucking comeback throw to save his life. I mean, that's how they drafted a quarterback. They know. But everything you're just saying about the Titans,

it feels like that's what the Colts are going to be with Jonathan Taylor and Anthony Richardson. They might run the ball 50, 60 times a game. We got a dog, too. And you got weapons. In comparison to the Titans. Hey, look out. Look out.

Look out. Look out. Maybe sprinkle a little mana on the Colts to win the Super Bowl. Okay. Certainly. You don't have to put much money down to get a good return on them. Okay, thank you. $2.

Well, these are futures bets. There's a lot of great odds in futures bets. Thank you. Oh, they're the third worst in the league. Oh, okay. Plus $8,500. But they jumped. I was actually looking at 2024 mocks.

They have the Cardinals picking one and two because, you know, they have their first pick, and then they have the Texans' first pick. So that would be one and two. And then Colts at three. Okay. Marvin Harrison Jr. Yeah, that would be huge. All right.

Might be worth it. I don't want that to be Anthony Richardson's first year in the NFL. But if we end up in a place... Are y'all already talking about tanking it? Wow. We're not tanking shit. That's not our DNA. You just need to get beat every week.

Everybody. There's a chance we lose. There's a chance we lose. There's a chance we lose. If you get your group players to play good like they did two years ago, you guys are going to be just fine. Let's talk about other teams. How about the Seattle Kraken? Unbelievable.

How about the Kraken? The crackheads are alive. I talked about the – Hey, this is in the NHL. You need to know this. There's a brand-new team to the NHL called the Kraken, which is a sea creature. Sea monster, yeah.

It's like an octopi, almost, or something along those lines. A squid, maybe. I forget what it is. When they debuted it, we all said, how is that what we ended up with? I want to let you know they've done a great job. The jerseys are fantastic. Great. So cool. The color is

glorious. Made me a fan just strictly from watching them. Then these motherfuckers, because of the expansion draft, fly. These dudes fly. They are a great team. The Crocken came in with a little bit of light buzz. Nothing really. First year, remember, fan saved coach's life.

Saw a mole on the back of the neck. to get that checked out get that checked out turned out it was a cancerous yeah they removed that coach and fan have moment shout out that that was the story first year in for our show now i understand other people probably talking about we're talking about from a very national regional football stooge show that That and the Sean Kemp t-shirt. Yes. Bingo. That was the debut. Yeah.

Exactly. So debut was, wow, could we not get a bigger jersey? Happy didn't get too pissed. And then also, life saved. And it's like, okay, cute. They got a new team. This year, how we doing? Keep it moving.

Just knocked off the Stanley Cup champions. And they got sick uniforms and they fly. The Crocken are a real problem. The Las Vegas Golden Knights expansion team had immediate success and built up a fan base. Feels like the Crocken are doing the exact same thing. Joining us live from the couch, man who's a Stanley Cup champion and host of That's Hockey Talk, which will be live from here tonight. Oh, hell yeah.

Can't wait to watch 8 p.m. Eastern at youtube.com forward slash that's hockey talk. Ruppert, can you hear us over there? This is going good. Oh, man. Did you turn the mic on? No. Does he have a microphone? Microphone's not over here.

He has a microphone. He does have it. I don't think he's turned it on. What's up, fellas? There it is. Ruppert, took us a while to get to you, pal. We do apologize. Took a little while.

I couldn't get this thing in my ear. Hey, you got those teal chucks on again for the second straight day. They look so cool. Sweet shot. That is a sweet shot. Jabba. Jabba might have to stand down, Jabba. Like who's that?

Jabba, stand down. Looks like you guys are about to score off. It's like stepbrothers right here that are scoring off in the front yard. You can call me Dragon. Jabba, you're a great operator, okay? Don't be turning on us like some of these AIs that have made the Google guy step down. Yeah, it's not good. Don't even want to talk about that.

The Godfather. That's a big thing. And I don't know if that's an internet report or an actual report, but it is about the internet on the internet. Pretty real deal internet report. Absolutely. Rupert, Seattle Crockett, they use the color that's on your shoes right now and also on your pants.

You look very cool. They look very cool, and they're a good team. It's great for the NHL. How often does this happen, and why aren't we doing this more? They're incredible, and the thing is with them, they don't have like a superstar, right? They set an NHL record this year. They had, Nick, what was it?

17 guys. 17, thank you. 17 players on their team with over 25 points. So it's coming from everywhere. You don't know where it's coming from, but they dog the puck all game long. They get on you. They get in your face. And we saw it again last night, man.

Their poor gumps, they took it to the stars, man. But they come. And I think going game seven kind of helps you roll into the next series. They know nothing but go, go, go right now. They're electrifying. So explain that this is their second year in the league. Shout out to them being able to build something like this

this quickly. They made a fan out of me and the wife. We'll watch. Sick unis, like you mentioned, right? On that white of the ice? I mean, it is. It is filthy. And then the Las Vegas Golden Knights, they also had success. They have a fan base. How come the expansion thing doesn't happen more often?

How does it happen? And what does the draft? You just get like the third best player on every team? So the draft, you can only protect certain players in the expansion draft. Every team has to offer up players. Yeah, so off the top of my head, it's like you can protect X amount of skaters and one goaltender, or you can be like, they don't want teams to, the most important position to protect is your defenseman.

So they're like, all right, if you want to protect more defensemen, you could do that, but now you're going to leave unprotected more players. So maybe you would have 12 protected players that would drop to like nine or eight. Do people try to dump contracts in this? Yeah, so this is where it's at, though, and that's how Vegas came in, is that these teams are like, all right, well, this guy, it's a bad contract with him. So we're going to expose him in the draft, and if he gets picked up, it's cool, man. We get to dust our hands from that bad contract.

And if he gets picked up, it's cool, man. We get to dust our hands from that bad contract. All you get, though, is a bunch of misfits, a bunch of castaways that are pissed off, chips on their shoulder, and they come together. In a new city, building a brand? Yeah, I mean, that's what Vegas was. Vegas was a castaway of bad contracts and flares. So they got something different, man.

We know in sports you get that. That's an edge. But here's the other thing with Seattle, too. You're good. I thought I heard an alarm there. Did you? You should tell us. No, no. We're good. Thank you for thinking about that. I hear it, too. What is it? It sounded like a fire alarm for a second.

Is there a fire? It's gone away. It's got a fire extinguisher. Let's put that on. We have to have one. We have to. We had to have one. Yeah, we need one of those. We have to. We had to have one. Tim has one on his hip usually at all times. A fire extinguisher?

Yeah, like one of those smaller ones? No, firearm. On his hip? Oh. A fire extinguisher. Okay, okay. Yeah, but the fire extinguisher. Anyways, Rupert, if you see a fire, please. Yeah, I'll let you guys know.

I'll be aware here. Put your skates on and skate up close to it and dust it with some sand. Oh, yeah. Could you imagine? That would be so sick. Hey, but here's the thing with Seattle. Get back to that. People think because they're year two of existence that they're inexperienced.

They actually have a lot of man games in the playoffs. So these are veteran guys who've been around and played in the playoffs with other teams. So it's not like, you know, they get paid, too. They're going to go out there and execute and play the playoffs. So these are veteran guys who've been around and played in the playoffs with other teams. So it's not like, you know, they get paid too. They're going to go out there and execute and play the game. So there's a story, man. How much was that team bought for or started for? Like if I wanted to say put one in Indianapolis, what would be the Don payment and then what is the salary cap for the first two years?

So, Nicky, you might have to jump in here. And how many expansion teams have happened? You can look it up because there's a fee. $600 million. I think Vegas paid $500 million. So it's $500. I think Seattle had to pay $600 million for expansion fee that just goes split up amongst all the other owners in the league.

So the owners like this, right? Hilarious. So you drop that. What a gig. You're going to make our league so much better. But to do that, no. Just to hang with us so much better but to do that all right just just just to just to hang with us you got to pay six how many teams how many teams 32 right now okay start doing some math but there's there's some rumors of some teams potentially moving uh that's

always in the in it but i mean there's also some cities that have been starving for another team for for a team for a while so there could could be more expansion. And they've even talked about potential expansion to other parts of the world, which I know in other sports they've looked into that before. But, you know, hockey is a huge contingency in Europe and in different areas. So I think it's all looking good. Go ahead, Tom. It says the total investment for the Kraken right before game one of their franchise was about $2 billion.

Okay, so that's going to take a little time. Ryan Reynolds just made a bid. Yeah, $1 billion. And hence, that's the Ottawa Senators. I know it's Canada's capital, but they need a new arena. The arena's not even downtown Ottawa. There's a lot of things. So if that potentially sells for a billion, that's great for hockey.

That's going to keep pushing those prices up. So what, the Pens? Let's make a good deal up there, huh? Let's make a good deal on the sale, Ryan. Yeah, let's do it. Come on, for the good of the buyer's market. Fenway ruined the Pens. Don't bring up that stuff.

Ryan Reynolds is reported to be among those prepared to bid more than $1 billion to buy the Ottawa Senators in a team's home arena, Canadian Tire Center. Shout out. If the sale goes through at reported level, it would make Ottawa the first NHL franchise to top a billion. Congrats to the NHL. Congrats to sports as a whole. Go ahead, Connor. Ruppert just mentioned different parts of the

country or the world, like the NFL. Are you saying like a Mexico City maniacs is possible? Hey, you might need to be branding that, dude. That's a nice one. No, there's been conversation. You know how every year we have the premier games, so it's preseason games that are played in Europe,

and those things sell out. Think about it. I think 30% of NHL rosters are European players, and so there's an appetite there. How does it work out logistically? I think that's a big question. Impossible is the final answer. That's what the NFL is finding out.

I don't know how big your guys' operation is, but it's like feasible, like not as a word to describe. Like there has to be like a home base, a tryout base. How many transactions happen during the season on NHL teams? A lot? Yeah, a lot. Bottom half of the roster? I mean, throughout, yeah.

And pretty active trade deadline time, but it's pretty active throughout the season. So, like, the NFL rosters, those are, like, every week. There's, like, seven new on eight new. Right, the squad. And they're going from another team to another team. Europe would be a fucking interesting. Now, do you have workouts in there?

Right, but then it's even in hockey, the farm club. Like, that's huge. You know, like, it used to be, I mean, there was times where you've like that's huge you know like it used to be i mean there was times where you've had vancouver or you know the la kings farm club was in manchester new hampshire that's not real convenient you you're puking before the game we got to call someone up oh we got to get them from fucking new hampshire like in time for the game that's not gonna work you know what i'm saying so now all of the teams have have regionalized yeah they're very close to

one another but if you got team, it doesn't stop. If you were to put teams in Europe or somewhere else in the world, you've got to have a farm club there handy. It's a big, big project. Who's going to win it? Crocken got a chance to win this thing? I mean – Lordo that was just right here yesterday?

How about that, Rupert? Thank you for that. How about this? I've seen some people – Phil set that up, man. Hell, yeah. Phil had to connect with Matt. Great guy.

Matt's a great guy. Just remember? Yeah, Matt's the best. He was so funny the last time he came in. He was cracking jokes yesterday until 5.30. I've seen some people say, oh, I guess they let anybody just drink from Lorto now. What if sports...

Who said that? I've seen some comments. I've seen some comments. I should have explained in there that because we had a Stanley Cup champion in our presence, he was able to pour said beer into my mouth. So I appreciate you providing that opportunity. I have no idea if that's ever going to happen again.

That was incredibly cool. Thank you for that. No, dude, it was great. And we were saying it yesterday, too. He kind of ran out of here before I wanted to see if everybody can get it. I never drank out of the cup. What? Never drank out of the cup when we won.

Yeah. Why? So we've got to figure out a way to get it back. It was just... You told us you did ice cream out of it, didn't you? Yeah, I ate food out of it. But you're supposed to... The whole thing is drinking champagne from the cup after you win the cup.

That night, you just pour it on your head. We had a champagne party in the locker room, but I didn't drink it out of the cup. I was a rookie when we won. So it's like I'm trying to, you know, okay, I don't want to upset the veterans here. Just going to sit back and whatever. I never drank out of it. I thought he was going to win it every year probably. I did.

Hey, that's funny you said it because the Devils won in 95-2000 when I was there in 2003. So in those eight years, three Stanley Cup wins, and I think one or two more finals. So four or five finals in eight years. I'm like, oh, fuck. I'm going to stay here for eight years, ten years. I'll be at about six more of these, right? I'll be here.

They'll call it the Rupp Cup. Simple. Couldn't get fucking close to one of my last years, man. It's a grind. It's a grind. Stanley Rupp, yeah. I went to the Super Bowl my rookie year. And by eye, I just so happened to be the one that was on the team doing the job that I was doing.

Same as me, man. Anybody could have been doing the job that I was doing that was in the professional level. I just got lucky to be the one that got to do it. And I'm like, okay, guys. Hey, we lose. All right. Drew Brees is baby crying. All right.

Confetti. It's okay. That locker room was fucking miserable, dude. They all knew. They knew what was potentially how hard it is to get back there because the Patriots kind of offset everybody's actual reality of what it is like to make it to the Super Bowl. You've got to get lucky health-wise.

You've got to get lucky contract-wise. Balls have to go your way. It's like an oblong ball, so it's not like a predictable, just like the goddamn puck. So the Patriots kind of change everybody's perspective on it two years later we were always completely defeated we were almost completely defeated number one pick number one over we got andrew luck it was like the ride of it all can really change but i do wish i could go back and tell me like yeah hey pal like you know drink it doesn't happen. Yeah, like, this is not going to happen, like, ever again.

It's a crazy thing. And in hockey, it's seven games, though. That is, that's an interesting vibe. Because you guys can have, do you get up for every game? Is there, like, a tired game? No, not really. I don't think in the playoffs you don't, I don't think you get tired or you don't tell yourself that, right?

They've got to be fucking exhausted. Here's the thing, and I don't know what it's like in other sports, but at the beginning of the season, you come into camp, and it's like you'll see a guy, and you'll be like, well, that guy's pretty yoked. He came in big this summer, put in the work. I'm really jogged. If you took a picture of the – I think this would be great,

without being creepy about it. Take a picture of that dude, like a before and after. Training camp and then that team winning the Stanley Cup. Of that guy, just his – just, you know, waist up, even his face. Dude, by the end of the grind, guys' faces are drawn. They look sick, man. They've lost – I've seen guys that come into training camp that are 215 pounds and at the end of the Stanley Cup finals when they win the cup,

they're like 195 pounds. Oh, you really racked all of them, man. They're depleted. It's crazy. Oh, my God. That does sound absolutely miserable. Because you're just running sprints, right? And it just sprints pretty much?

That's your sport? Pretty much, yeah. Then get off the ice. No, 30 seconds. You go 30 seconds. Nobody takes any time off in the offseason? You have to just keep training? You can't take like a month?

No, you can take time off. You got your schedule when it ramps up. These guys are fast. I usually would be like, I got two weeks where I just was garbage time. Like I just, every meal, fast food, drink what you want, whatever. And then that was two weeks. I'd do it so much I didn't want to see you fast food the rest of the summer and then you kind of start building it back in

that's what I did with the lockout because they weren't drug testing anymore I said I'm going I'm going to go here you were the best in the lockout that was like a hundred some days I said by the end of this thing I want nothing to do with going out, drinking, doing anything that I can't do anyways because I'm getting drug tested immediately. Because public intoxication does require, I guess, a 27-month sentence in the substance of abuse policy.

Just random testing? Eight tests a month. I took 200 and some tests. Yeah. And anytime I left my house, had to call them and tell them where I was going to be and two phone numbers they could reach out. I had a PO, man. I did.

It was, you were in. Even out of the country. Yeah. Were you in the program? Hell yeah, I was in the program. Did you get out of it? No way. Yeah, I did.

I did. Did you really? I only had, I stayed two, well. It is made for you not to get out of it. I'm like, yo yo then doctor three years fuck his name is oh you missed the test i'm like bro i'm missing the fucking test can't come back test me but uh yeah i stayed how about how were you guys were how were you guys with testing so we had random testing in the nhl too and some guys some guys were okay some guys had a little

stage fright when they're got to stare over your shoulder at your dog. Dude, I peed at a hotel lobby at like 4.30 p.m.ish. I guess everybody was checking into this hotel at the same exact time in Charlotte, I think. Me and this dude walk into the handicap stall with a packed bathroom. We're talking five people at urinal these guys have no idea two toilets and me and this guy walk right into the handicap stall in the back he got a bag yeah he's got bad covers yes exactly i mean i have at that stage if you had any stage fright at all you're wasting your whole life pretty much but it got to a point i would like to hear your thoughts 30 months means you probably had one fair one miss at some point

in there they they have it so like you're in there forever once you get in there they're trying to keep you you got to meet with a substance of abuse counselor once a week yeah for an hour you got to report this you get eight tests it's like those tests can come at any moment at all i'd like to get your thoughts on did you wake up every morning or scared to piss because you thought you were maybe going to get a piss test and you didn't want to waste any time you just wanted to knock it out and get out of there because i used to think about that after i got out of it i'm like i'd wake up and i'd be scared to go take your morning pee you know yeah

because there's a chance you're getting a text don't want to wait like 45 minutes to do your uh piss test or whatever and it's like that was something as i was getting out of the substance abuse program i was like they got me right now that's trauma they got me right yeah they really do once i started waking up and just pissing what a change in my life that was when i was really out program, I was like, they got me right now. That's trauma. They got me right now. They really do. Once I started waking up and just pissing, what a change in my life. That was when I was really out. Hell yeah. That was when I was really out.

It was crazy, bro. I didn't know you were in there. You got out of it. That's not easy. Yeah. And I was sneaking and geeking, too. What's that mean? What's that mean?

So I knew when they test us on, let's say they test us on Tuesday, they can't test you on Wednesday. They can come back on Thursday. Okay. So whatever I was doing, you know, having a drink or whatever extracurricular activity, I knew that I had two days to get it off. They got me in Indianapolis one time. I flew to Vegas immediately afterwards, and then I was in Pittsburgh on Sunday.

They got me on Sundayay too i did a hot tub i did a hot sauna oh my god gotta get the booze out of this but i i had to report where i was traveling to so they were trying to catch my ass it felt like i would tell them i'm driving pat like yo where you going like i'm going to atlanta um it's gonna take me probably 12 hours to get there i'm gonna see my mom that's probably going to take me six hours because I ain't going to get no service in there. Then I'm going to drive back to Cincinnati. Yeah. I'm on the road.

I took a bus. I was on a bus. I did all the reality TV shows on a bus. I saw the most haunted house in Florida. I went Bigfoot hunting in Georgia. I rode some those big fan boats with some alligators. I raced go-karts against

some of these NASCAR kids in the hills of North Carolina. I did all that stuff. But they thought I was on the run from them. Because I was like on a bus. I'm in Georgia. Oh, tomorrow I'll be in Florida. Sorry about it. This is the hotel. I'm checking. They tested me at 4am in Georgia after I got done trying to find Bigfoot out in the middle of fucking nowhere.

The guy who tested me, because they have people in the city. What's the name of that company that does the piss testing? They're in Clean Sport, maybe? Yeah, that's it. I think it's Clean Sport. It is. They have people in, like, every city. This guy was a veteran piss collector.

He had been around, this guy in Georgia. Seen a lot of piss. He said, I've never been told to go test at 4 a.m. I want to let you know that. It's the first, who did you piss off,

pretty much, is what the guy said. I said, I've been on a run, man. I was looking for goes yesterday in Florida. I'm going up to Carolina right now.

They think I'm running. That thing was a nightmare. Janikowski told me, go on cruise. What they do, land on boat. Changed my life. All right, let's get to a break. That wasowski told me, go on cruise. What they do? Land on boat? Change my life. Let's get to a break.

That was a good trip down memory lane there. There was that one guy. It was a long month, dude. Bro, that was hard. Long months. Every week you had to go and see the person, the psychiatrist person. Not no missing. You missed, they kind of count it as a missed drug test. Yes, and I don't

know if how your friends were at that stage of your life. My friends, every one of them was out. So it was like, I tried to go out one time. I'm going to be a sober friend. I've heard this happens. Places. I've heard people do this. I'm going to be a sober friend.

I'm going to have so much fun. It's not fun. It was the worst. I felt like I was holding everybody back. I'm like, why aren't you guys doing that? Man, you guys are doing this because I'm here? God damn it. So I just couldn't even go out with all my friends.

It's a pretty isolated time. Then the lockout game. No more testing. Boys, I'm coming back home this week. It was like a 100-day run. It was a 100-some day run. It was incredible. It was.

That's why I thought I would be dead by this particular day. Sure. Happy to be 36 today. Yesterday was a great day.. That's why I thought I would be dead by this particular day. Sure. Happy to be 36 today. Yesterday was a great day. Ruppert, we appreciate you, bud. We'll probably call for you from the couch again as he is doing that talky talk live

tonight here from the Thunderdome. Let's go, Nick. This is a big step. It is. It is. Very exciting. We've got to manufacture some drama. We've got to make up a good storyline to get the buzz going. Big game tonight. For the show? Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. We got to come up with a good gimmick. Barry Melrose is coming on, right? Barry Melrose? He's sitting in the fucking Levy Lounge right now, you know what I mean? He's big game tonight. Vegas Golden Knights. When was the last time you did Melrose?

Probably like three, four years ago. It's been a while. I saw your head. I haven't heard him on TV. I couldn't even remember how he fucking sounded. Just for those of you, and this is a really cool thing. I'm getting a chance to chat about Ty a little bit for something that is really cool for Ty. I'm fucking incredibly pumped for him.

And just like trying to describe Ty is a hilarious thing because I get the opportunity to see his face whenever he's just cooking or thinking. And there is always, you can basically see exactly what's happening inside of his brain from his face. You know like there is a haymaker coming. Oh yeah.

Like you know there is something coming. Right there I saw him trying to think if he had Barry Melrose still in the chamber. It's been a while. That was awesome to watch. It's been a while. Hey, you're a true talent, Ty. I appreciate it. Hey, true talent.

I appreciate it. That Mad Mel thing, because of how big the show has gotten, and I think we all just kind of take it for granted because of how easily you do it, and I don't want you to ever think that we don't appreciate and respect the shit out of you, because I think we all just kind of take it for granted because how easily you do it. And I don't want you to ever think that we don't appreciate and respect the shit out of you because, like, I think we all genuinely laugh until, like, you know, we go, you know, literally, I think every day multiple times because of you. Your hit rate is so incredibly high, like, all the time, okay? So, like, Mad Mel is, like, such a weapon, you know, for draft night. A lot of people have seen it for, like, the time okay so like mad mel is like such a weapon you know for draft night a lot

of people seen it for like the first time yeah the reaction has been remarkable and uh you've earned it all pal and you are one of one and also i don't think people have even seen a lot of the shit that you can do yet and i'm very excited for that as well well i appreciate it very much i mean if you you know if you didn't give me the opportunity to do it. Nah, shut up. Let's get out of here. I don't want to hear it. I mean, because I have been doing that just like around people and like a group of my friends for the longest time.

And like never did I think that like, oh, yeah, like a shitload of people. How about Lou Holtz, bro? Yeah, exact same deal. Lou Holtz, he went to a Catholic high school. So Catholic high schools look up to Notre Dame. Could you imagine him just ninth grade year? Exactly. Doing Lou Holtz around friends.

That's why you can say anything in these. Like some people can only say things that have already been said. You know, and maybe they're not able to. You can have full conversation about anything as these human beings. And it's a fucking weapon for us, dude. Appreciate the hell out of you, man. Connor's even starting to dive into the impersonations. Which one did I do? You were doing

that hockey commentator. Don Cherry? Linda Hextall? Yeah, you're right. I do do her. Leah Hextall. What was it? I thought it was Linda.

What'd she say, though? I love that one. You're an asshole. Leah Hextall is crushing it was Linda. Fuck. What'd she say, though? Sorry. I love that one. You're an asshole. Leah Hextall is crushing it this year. I know she is. That's why I've been... That's why I keep fucking trying. I'll tell you what.

Hockey has gotten good coverage. It has. Great coverage. By the way, opposite of the Lakers angle, I asked Rupert yesterday, I said, how's game sevens with hockey? Yeah, it's something. Someone just took a massive fart right there. And the Kraken

and the Panthers right off of game seven. Both of them won last night. I love that because you're talking about basketball and not being able to make it. Is that what you just referred to? Correct, yeah. And then game seven hockey. He said, hockey, we actually like to carry it through. Yeah, and also he said playoff game. We're not tired. What are we? These dudes, it'll come out after

they get eliminated, these hockey folks. This guy was playing with a severed kidney. Three broken ribs. This guy's spine was broken in three spots. He's going to have to have back surgery. He is out 17 months. I just saw this guy playing yesterday.

This guy's on Minnesota. Had a broken leg. Flower? Skating. Think about how much that hurts just to skate. They're doing all this shit on ice. Yeah, it's absurd. Hey, that a baby Ruppert. That a baby Ruppert.

Ruppert also fought a lot of people on ice. Yeah, he's a dog. Joining us live from Manatee, Ohio, is a man who is a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion. He's not a Ryder Cup champion. Damn it. But he is the Ohio champion.

That's right. He's the Ohioan of the Ohioans. He's also a father of 10 and a COVID survivor. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawk. A.J., let's dive right into it. You're glowing. You look fantastic. Is that because Aaron Rogers stopped by yesterday and I didn't get to ask him about the Instagram post?

We'll get to that hopefully next time. That maybe had a little bit of a situation brew on this particular program between you and Connor in the group text and on air where we had to explain it all. He looked incredibly pumped, though, and happy. I think that's great news for the Jets. AJ, what are your thoughts?

Yeah, didn't he seem like at peace, happy, like content with where he was and also excited for the new opportunities? But think how different it is going back to the offseason. Not only all of this new facility, new teammates, all of this attention, but at night he's going to Knicks games, he's going to hockey games, he's at MSG. Normally he'd be hanging out at his house reading weird books, doing whatever. Okay. Well, I would like to dive in.

Is that the book club? That's all the books that he has. No, like I'm saying, it's got to be cool for him to get there. Wow, there's a lot of energy here in New York City. This is cool, man. He mocked him for going to W there. Wow, there's a lot of energy here in New York City. This is cool, man. He mocked him for going to Wicked. I believe he'll probably end up seeing that at some point because there was a chance to go to the game.

But him and Sauce enjoying the game last night. He looks young. He looks happy is what everybody's saying. It's a drama. Drama sitting next to him right there. And Turtle. Turtle. Turtle was there as well.

I mean, yeah. Whole squad out there, man. That's not drama. I mean, it was a big time. Drama was not there. Yeah, he just called Turtle drama. Yeah. You mean, yeah. Whole squad out there, Buck. That's not drama. I mean, it was a big time. Drama was not there. Yeah, he just called Turtle drama. You pig. Jeez. He lives in Cleveland, actually. Turtle lives in Cleveland.

I saw the list of celebrities on there, and I did not see Drama's names. Me neither. I did see Turtle's name on there, though. Yeah, Turtle was the one. Why'd you do that? That's a good question. Why did I do that? I don't know. Didn't mean to. Sometimes I mess people's names up that I'm calling them their characters from a show that was on 20 years ago. Hey, listen.

Ari Gold came on, and we talked to him. We did. And he talked to us. You know, this is part of the program. This is part of the program. Tripping right now. You know what I mean? This is part of the program.

He might have been on. He's on the frog. He might have been on the toad or whatever. Hit tripping, talking about Aaron. But it's back to Aaron. He might play three, four years. He's 39. Why not? If he's the bell of the ball over there, the talk of the to Aaron. He might play three, four years. He's 39. Why not?

If he's the bell of the ball over there, the talk of the biggest town, you know what I mean? Not just talk of the town. That's the biggest town. Oh, yeah. There's no towns bigger. By far.

It's actually number one in sizes of tons in the country. Number one town. If he's the talk of the town, big pops for that fucking guy. Everywhere he goes over there. And then you say, I'm talking to people on the street if you win why wouldn't you want to

continue to do that especially in new york you know why wouldn't you if you could still do he said i could throw it to him 60 okay did you think do you think he heard people saying uh because the way they were describing it is the jets trade a probable future first rounder for 39 year old quarterback do you think think Aaron heard that? That's why he said yesterday, I'll be able to throw a football until I'm 60. You think he heard that? Yeah, I think so.

I think he probably hears whispers. People probably claiming, oh, well, he was a two-time MVP, but he wasn't the MVP this last year. So, hey, he's falling off a cliff. So he's at May football. Stacking it up. He's dialing it up. Isn't it a rare combination, though?

Like very happy where he's at, very excited about the new surroundings, but also tons of chips continue to stack on his shoulder. Is he throwing too soon? Is this bad for him? Because remember, we've gone through this whole thing about how his arm felt when it was felt. Is he going to die out?

Is that because he's old? No, he's not. He's grown too early. You want to say that again? Jeez, Luis. You guys have a lot of energy today. Bro, the flick of his wrist, that thing ain't going to get tired. It's fucking May 3rd.

Sorry, what's that? I said the flick of that wrist, that ain't going to get tired. Flick of the wrist. He's going, why is the ball just different? It's put in a different position. It's just different, man. What's that movie where the dude have the surgery? Rookie of the Year.

That's how Aaron is. Get to throwing the ball like you can go garden house do a lot of quarterbacks that's done played the ball i mean played this game but nobody throw the ball like you got to heat up the ice cubes too at the age of 39 and whenever you're doing that you know he has all his recovery and stuff he did say that he um you know yeah i got a couple things that have already been scheduled, but I did feel obligated, and I felt like I had to be here and wanted to be here to kind of meet everybody. That's become a little bit of a story of the conversation because at one point, everybody assumed he was going to be at full OTAs.

Now, maybe not. Hilarious to even talk about to a guy that's been in the NFL and won the MVP four times, you know? Yeah, who assumed he'd be there every day, though? I think he said the duration. He did, for the rest of the time. He's already changing the story. Like a lot of vets.

A lot of vets do that. They kind of come and go. Yeah, he may take a couple G days here. Yeah. Yeah. What are we doing next week? Red zone? That's the gold zone, right?

Mm-hmm. We're good there. I remember. Once everybody does it, cool. I'll come in. I remember it as well. Right. I need four days, five days here at the AIA.

I need a little four-day vacation. Where are you going? Well, I got to go to the jungle. Yeah, Costa Rica's calling. You know. He deserves to get his vet days, man. He doesn't put it into work. No reason for him to be out there fucking throwing every day of the fucking week. We know what he can do. Nobody going to have Aaron out there throwing.

You need to throw every day. We need to make sure you can handle the wealth. I mean, the longer. It's all on Aaron, I think. Whatever Aaron wants to do. Yeah. I think that is probably what, you know, they probably want it to be that way, too. Like, the Jets probably like, hey, we hope he takes enough initiative here. Because it sounded like whenever he was at the Packers, he wanted more, like.

Honest play. Hey, I would like to maybe contribute in different ways than just. Be involved, right? Yeah. Is that what he said? Yeah. So, I wonder if them being like, hey, this guy wants to make...

Who are we to tell him this is the best way for Aaron Rodgers to... You know? We didn't even ask. Ah, we missed it. Bad journalism. Fuck. What? First round pick was he pissed off about it. Because remember? They disrespected him. We just knew he was.

No, yeah, but we should have got his answer out of that. I would have been excited to hear what he would have said to that. So that's a miss. We'll get better. Hey, we'll get better. Remember for next time. It wasn't like an official ART, though. So next time.

Yeah, it was a surprise. It was a SART. It was a SART, yeah. If you will. It was a birthday call-in. Oh, a SPART. Yeah, kind of just slipped out. Like Sparrow, but with just take the row.

Right. Put a T. Yep. Spart. Surprise birthday, Aaron Rodgers Tuesday. There he is. It was a good spart. I mean, we'll have a better spart, hopefully, somebody else.

And they just signed his best pal. Oh, yeah, Randall Cobb came to the team. We didn't even ask him about how many more demands he's got. That's right. A reunion. Former Packers wide receiver Randall Cobb is expected to agree on a one-year deal with the New York Jets, allowing him to play with Aaron Rodgers in New York, per sources.

Wow. The two men who walked off the field together in Green Bay now walk onto the field here in New York together. Not what he said probably would have been, well, who are we? We didn't even ask about on Spart, about any of the things that actually matter but i think this is a big story because it can contribute to the people that are saying that

he's making demands and commands to the jets which was a story before whenever they signed alan lazard alan lazard i think would have been signed by a lot of teams because alan lazard really fucking good but also nathaniel hackett being the offense coordinator brand new offense coordinator signing veteran guys that know his system is a very normal move around the NFL, I think, AJ. Oh, I think that's – I mean, the same happens with coaches, happens with players. You hire who you know, who you have like track records with,

where you know, hey, I know what I'm getting in this person probably. Jordy Nelson lining up for the Jets this year. I know. Make it happen. Could you imagine you Packers fans? You're getting a one next year probably because he's going to play more than 65% of the games, but you're potentially going to see the ring of honor over there

trying to go win one for the great state and city of New York and New Jersey. Yeah, if Jordy lines up in 87 for the Jets. He's going to make them do it. I might fucking jump off the top of the Thunderdome. Don't do that. We need you to take that one out of the brain well i don't know that one i mean rogers is tough enough to swallow if jordy comes back when i've been when i was asking for it for

the last three years with the packers oh boy that would be tough so the thing about um the thing about jordy is he doesn't even know that aaron's on the jets i don't think it't think he's on the Jets. That's a good point. He's been on the ranch. Yep. He doesn't have a clue. Right, AJ? There's a chance. Full ranching. Yeah, there's definitely a chance.

And Jordy, good luck prying that dude out of retirement. He's not coming. He's happy. He's out. He's actually out there with the cows and shit. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Legit farmer.

Crack a dime. Ranching. He's fucking ranching. That's what he does full time. He's out there. We had him on the program, and he didn't even... I don't even... Trying to find a place with a little bit of service here.

He's way the fuck out there. Remember when I went to his house, and I was broadcasting from inside the closet of his house with him? Yes. It was amazing. It was a great time. I think we need to go out there and see his whole ranch set up. He was running with cows one night. Oh, yeah.

Yep. In the town. Lights on. There's a big competition they do. He wanted us to come, like, he wanted us to put a team together and go do it, go tackle bowls and do whatever. Well, listen, I've already done some light ranching. I've already done some Montana State.

Let's pivot away from that. You saw it. It was on TV. Huh? Huh? Yeah, light ranching. You might not, actually, you probably can't enter that because you're considered professional now. Bingo. Makes sense. Amateur only. I did you probably can't enter that because you're considered professional.

Bingo. I did not know I was doing that that day. I had no idea what I was walking into. Good surprise. Drove a long way away from the goddamn Rockies to get into someplace, into a barn. We're out there. What do you want to do today?

What do I want to do today? I want to watch your practice. Hey, how about this? Put you on a horse. It'll be fine. And then you'll wrestle a steer. Yeah, give me the robot one. No, we got a steer. No, we got a real one.

He's pissed off, too. Am I going to hurt this thing? Oh, you think you're going to hurt a fucking thousand... What question? Okay, you think you're... Oh, sorry, tough guy. Pretty much,

you're going to hurt this fucking thing. I'm like, I don't want to... How am I supposed to... What do I want to do? Oh, okay, yeah. Don't hurt, you're going to hurt this fucking thing. I'm like, I don't want to. How am I supposed to know? What do I want to do? They'll go, okay, yeah, don't hurt the fucking cow that could just kill you immediately. Don't hurt it, Pat, please. That was pretty much the reaction from all of the cowboys out there. Great group of people.

I got in there. I did that. Slow fall. I had to do the legs. Yep. Take them down. Got a lot of tweets from some ranchers. Said, hey, not bad ranching there.

Good work. That's Montana. Earned my belt buckle that I wear every fucking week on game day. Felt pretty proud about it. I would never be able to do it again, but Jordy could. And probably line up for the Jets. Let's pivot away from the NFL. Let's go to the association.

Hell yeah. Who's in the middle of a lot of storylines and a lot of great things in this NBA playoffs. Not only do you got LeBron and Steph. A new MVP was just crowned last night. What is his status? What is going on with this Denver team that just bullies the shit out of everybody? And on the East, who's going to make it happen?

Is Houston Harden the real deal? Are the Celtics maybe going to make it happen? Joining us is a man who knows everything about everything in the NBA out of the Athletic Stadium and FanDuel TV, Sham Sharania. Holy shit! Is that a leather jacket? Oh my god! Happy birthday! Happy birthday! You turn what, 28? Holy shit. Is that a leather jacket? Oh, my God.

Pat, happy birthday. You turned, what, 28? Yeah. Oh, hell yeah. Hell yeah, Shams. I'm on your routine. Feel good? Hell yeah, dude.

Happy birthday, man. Hopefully you had a great one. You know, I wore this on Run It Back this morning on FanDuel TV, so, you know, I had to bring it back for PMS. Oh, you ran it back. I love what you did right there. You look so cool, and I know there's some massive time for the NBA, so let's dive into what's inside of your very cool-looking head

and into your brain. The NBA is popping off with storylines. Joel Embiid wins the MVP. Congrats to him. There you go, Joel. News was broken that he was back tonight. What all happened with Joel Embiid? Was it a lesser injury than we thought it was going to be? How is he going to

be able, is he going to be monitored in minutes? What is going to happen with the current MVP of the NBA in the next game? So, Pat, he went down April 20th. This is when the Sixers took a 3-0 series lead against the Nets. It was quite, you know, we didn't quite know how bad the knee injury was until the next day. He gets an MRI, and it revealed an LCL sprain. I'm told the LCL sprain was worse than a grade one. It was essentially a grade two LCL sprain, close to a grade two. And that usually can take at least multiple weeks. So tonight, if he's able to make it back,

which right now he's on track to, unless there's any setback, Joel Embiid is set to make his return tonight. It'll be the two-week mark since the injury. So this is a guy we've seen him play through a lot, Pat. Torn meniscus he played through in 2021. Painful. Last year during the playoffs,

he played through a torn ligament in his thumb as well as an orbital fracture in his face. So he's got a propensity to playing through pain and playing with injuries at a high level in the playoffs. And so this is no different. And so as long as he makes it through pregame warrants tonight, Joel Embiid potentially back tonight. They can take a 2-0 series lead with the win tonight. Philly can. So this is a massive game two in Boston tonight.

I wonder if we'll still see Houston Harden. What a dog. If he shows up in something similar to the fashion that we saw the other evening, everybody needs to look the fuck out. Go ahead, AJ. What's the status for Jimmy Butler moving forward? Also, I know you wrote a piece on Dylan Brooks earlier today, I believe.

What's his future look like? On Jimmy, I think he wanted to play in Game 2 in New York. It's just that ankle. It just wouldn't let him play. And I think Miami, Jimmy Butler, they all agree using a few more days off will help him rest up potentially for Game 3. It'll be six days in between Games 1 and Games 3 if he misses,

because of the fact that he missed Game 2. He's going to get the whole week, rest up that ankle, potentially be back game three. And, yeah, on the Dylan Brooks front, the Grizzlies informed him after the season ended in exit interviews that they are moving on under no conditions do they see bringing him back. And so his tenure in Memphis, for all intents and purposes, is over. He did turn down a pretty lucrative extension, from what I'm told,

early in the season. Talks ended after that. It was a tumultuous end of the season. You know, he was definitely talking his game to LeBron James. It didn't end well for the Grizzlies, a 2-7 upset. It's clear he might want a bigger role on another team. He spoke about that at the end of the season. Really?

It is kind of odd. I mean, I'll turn it to you guys. I don't know at the end of the season. Really? It is kind of odd. I mean, I'll turn it to you guys. I don't know how it is in the NFL. We don't know your league. Oh, no, don't turn that to us. We're just talking about humans as a whole. You said he wants a bigger role. The guy couldn't make a shot after he tossed it to LeBron.

I mean, not a single ball went into the hoop. That's basketball, right? Yeah. I mean, you can't have that happen, right? He shot 13 times per game, 10 points per game, 30% from the field, 20% from three-point land. But I'm just curious, just for when a team has exit interviews with their players, like in the NFL, have you guys ever heard of a team

telling a player, like, we don't want you back under any conditions, any circumstances? Like, usually a little bit of gamesmanship, right? Well, business too, but that is a funny thing. It's like pissing off the quarterback. Him and John Moran ain't seeing eye to eye. Who are you taking in this situation? You can't piss off the quarterback.

Yeah, be who you can afford to be, I think. Now, if he goes out there and locks it down and they go on to win, it's like now Dylan Brooks is that Draymond Green guy that he wants to be. Draymond Green averaged 10 points at the most. The other night he had six points and four rebounds. Yeah, but he's doing his job. Yeah, he runs the point. He's tackling people from behind.

What bigger role can he play? He's tripping people. Smacking peenies. Yeah. Punching faces. Exactly. He is doing his thing, but they're winning,

you know? So if you win and that happens, good. Facilitator. You lose and you're doing that. Oh, that's pretty good. Winning is a cure for everything.

I mean, and the grizzlies, there's clearly like something culturally that they need to shift from, right? Because we've seen, there've been incidents with Dylan Brooks, you know, off the court,

on the, as far as on the court, being subject to suspensions during the year, technical files, fines, the comments he made off the court about LeBron James, you know, and the organization they spoke about after the season, the unnecessary off court distraction. I think when that, when those comments were made,

it was directed at one person, especially during the playoffs, and that's Dylan Brooks. And so I think both sides, I think a fresh start is best for both sides, and I think that's where both sides landed at in the exit meeting process. I think Lefkoe kind of hinted at this, and it made me realize it. Like, I'm pretty thankful for Dylan Brooks. Oh, yeah. You know, because LeBron got, like, shoot pissed.

That was awesome. Talking shit, posting shit. Fuck this guy. Like, that is awesome. Like, that is not. Fuck this guy. That is awesome. I feel like that is not something we see all the time. And is it just, you don't have to give a full elaborate thing, but like LeBron is very highly respected around the league? Yeah, I mean, that's a guy that when push comes to shove,

you know, a lot of what LeBron James james you know his thoughts his feelings i mean it matters i mean that's the guy that can call adam silver uh i don't know how much he taps into that but you know that there's always going to be a regard for that just like there was for michael jordan and kobe bryan and so i think similar level steph curry i think kevin durant there's that upper echelon guy where their voice clearly matters okay and we should dive i guess in to the lebron steph curry stuff hey what a night for the nba what a setup for the nba is there anything that you know that we don't know about this series that we should take into account to me it's anthony davis if he's able to be dominant like he was in game one i think this

lakers team has a chance to win a championship because LeBron James is very rare. We see a true off night from him. He had one in Memphis last series. He went 5-17 from the field, 15 points. He said he played like blank. Whoa, whoa, whoa. He brought it. What did he say?

You made me say a bunch of different words there. When you said blank, you're making me think bad words. What did he say? The S word, the S word. Whoa, whoa. Suck. The S word. Oh, no. Suck? Are we serious? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jesus. A little bit

elevated from suck. See, that is disgusting right now. Just say the word, man. Athletes are supposed to be role models. They're saying the S word, dude? Can't have it. This is disgusting, Shams. Tell Adam Silver to tighten it, the F word, up.

Maybe suspend him. Kick him out of the tour. Yeah, Doug. So going back to it, if LeBron plays like LeBron and Anthony Davis is dominant, I think this Lakers team, they're real and they're a threat. They're one of eight teams standing. And the Warriors, it was a tough loss for them in game one. I know a lot of people are going at Jordan Poole's shot. I'm just going to go

with what Draymond Green said on his podcast today. He'll live with Jordan Poole taking that shot 10 times out of 10. I mean, yes, it was a little bit deep, but he was six of 10 at that point from three-point lane. That's 60% from the field. I'm good at math. 60% from the field that was. So you want to see him take that shot, have confidence, and unfortunately did not go down for the Warriors, but I'm sure they're optimistic about their chances moving forward in this series.

I think this series has a chance to go 6 or 7 deep. Okay, yeah, a lot of people mocking Jordan Bull. I saw a lot of Carlton gifs of whatever he did. I mean, a lot of people killing the guy. He missed to the left. Not normal in those situations, especially with good shooters. Normally that thing's off the back or rattles or something like that. Being off to the side really sets yourself up to get killed.

Eight seconds left, though. We can't get Steph Curry open. We can't find the greatest three-point shooter. I think it was like 12 13 14 seconds he had double digit seconds left and we saw the look that steph curry had i'm sure as a competitor he wants to take that shot um as the greatest three-point shooter of all time in a playoff series against lebron for the legacy don't want to shoot that we would like to get that guy on the ball what do i yeah what? Pat, you said a good

word there. You said the word legacy. Whoever wins this, both these guys have a chance to get five rings. Steph Curry, LeBron James, and that's another thing about these playoffs, Pat, that I think is so dope, is that you have two guys right now that can get five rings, and that would be big for their legacy.

That cements them at another echelon in the NBA. And then you have, you know, can Jason Tatum, Jalen Brown get their first ring? Can Joel Embiid win MVP and a championship? Nicola Yoki.

He's won two rings. Can he finally break through and get a championship? Kevin Durant down to, Oh, can he go get. You love the sons. I'm going to be at the Suns game on Friday. I'm not going to get the PMS treatment,

but I'm going to be at the Suns game on Friday, Pat. But can they break through? Can they break through? There's a lot of storylines in the NBA, these playoffs, especially with these last 18 standings. On all that Phoenix Suns S-word, Ty has a question for you, Sean. Yeah, speaking of the Suns, Shams, I think Chris Paul, they said he might be out like a week potentially.

He could miss the next two games. If he doesn't play, I mean, are the Suns fucking dead in the water right now, especially with the way Joker and Murray have been playing for Denver? What's going on there? Yeah, CP3 is going to be out at least one week. That's going to be game three, most likely through game five, if they can get to a game five. Right now they're down 2-0,

so they're going to have to force this series to get extended. Can we get an arena delay? Can we get an arena delay? Can we get Janet Jackson in one of these buildings? So we can do maybe less games in a week. Can we do that? That's a lot of games. Get WrestleMania out there, you know?

I mean, it's going to be tough to schedule this quickly, but somebody, maybe we'd like to win without him. Can y'all win without him? Well, I'm just saying, like, the floor general needs to be out there. You're saying a week as opposed to games. He's probably got to be out there for them. Campaign is their backup point guard, and so he's going to probably end up starting.

I would look at this, Pat. Devin Booker, he's going to have to play a lot more minutes at the lead guard, at the point guard. So, you know, look forward to the ball being in Devin Booker's hands a lot more the next couple games. But yeah, he's gonna be out at least one week. And I will say that there is definitely uncertainty about his status for this entire series. Because as you guys know, groin strains, that's not just an injury at the age of your mid-30s that you're just going to snap your finger and you're going to be back from it in a week. That's going to take a bit.

I will. You get one of them cold tubs. I've seen Mike Posner told me I get in the cold tub, my groins... Cold tubs are going to cure groin strains? That's what it is? Everything, actually. You think you're cooler than me. That was the song. And then he was like, I'm getting in the cold tub every day. I'm going to be colder than all these motherfuckers.

That's right. Mosner's like a big-time cold tub advocate. I just said the F word. I'm sorry about that S word there, Shams. I didn't want to do that in your presence, even though the boys. I don't know, man. You guys had me cussing on the show last time, so I don't. Clean it up, Shams.

Stop doing that, Shams. Sounds like you got in trouble. Absolutely disgusting. Hey, Joker, he's a bully, bro bro the way he plays is so awesome he's got great touch back-to-back mvp i feel like the world doesn't talk about it much because the star power that is in the nba in the west yeah there's a lot of star power over there in the west we should talk about him more this nuggets team seems like they're gonna go they really do i love watching here's how nicola Jokic is like.

I don't believe from what I'm told. I don't think he even watched the MVP ceremony last night. He's won back-to-back. He was over it. He's focused on this series. And anyone that knows Nikola Jokic. Hold on. What do they have?

They have cameras on like the top five guys that could potentially win it? How does that go? Well, the finalists forp are supposed to be standby um but i to my knowledge nicola yokic and yannis and titi cupo those guys firmly you know kind of had a sense going into last night that joel and beat was going to be mvp there were there was no watch party there was no party doing party like it was for Joel Embiid for those guys. Joel Embiid won the MVP. The voting, honestly, wasn't even close.

Like we see right there. There was a good ceremony that the pitchers had. And that's at the ceremony where Joel Embiid turned to all his teammates and said, I'm back. Oh, really? What a moment. He kind of had his MJ moment. He had his MJ moment right there. For sure.

I hope he goes on and wins. Good luck out there. Connor has a question for you. Yeah, of had his MJ moment. He had his MJ moment right there. For sure. I hope he goes on and wins. Good luck out there. Connor has a question for you. Yeah, MJ moment, Chums. Jeez, cool off a little bit, okay? But with Embiid coming back, is there any chance the Celtics are going to mix it up in the starting lineup now? Will Time Lord probably start instead of coming off the bench,

or do you expect them to kind of just continue on with what they were doing game one that didn't work and they lost? Yeah, I think Boston Connor, I don't know if I want to take questions from you. You already made that joke, you prick. Get the new material, asshole. Shaquille O'Neal,

Sean Conner. Again, it wasn't as funny as... No, it was a putback. Run it back. Run it back. Run it back. It's a show. Leather jacket. All right, run it back. So with Joel. Run it back. Yeah, I'm going to run it back.

So I wouldn't say that they would change their lineup, but one thing I would look at, and I know as a Boston fan, you're going to be looking out for exactly what Joe Mazzola, their head coach, what does he do tonight? I think the one thing that you could see tonight is Grant Williams, who I don't believe played game one. More minutes for Grant Williams. He's the guy that's guarded Joel and beaten the pass.

He's the guy that defensively can guard one through five. He has not played. I mean, it's interesting. His minutes have gone. He's gone from being a 25, 27-minute per game player last year in the playoffs to he's at like 10 minutes a game. Grant Williams. Grant Williams. Is he going to score any points?

He might have. He gets threes. We might game. Grant Williams. Grant Williams. Is he going to score any points? He gets threes. We might have a Grant Williams sighting tonight. I mean, you would assume, if you want to be back in the lineup, you want to throw as many defenders at him as possible, you would assume a guy like Grant Williams could be a guy that gets minutes tonight.

Yeah, hell yeah. That's what we're saying, Boss Akano. We're saying 10 points for G-Dub tonight? I don't know. That's what he's predicting. Yeah, I feel like that may be two or three. But you did dunk on his face, so he might be still wheeling a little bit. Yeah, if you like 10 points, I don't.

He's not even listed. Oh, come on. He had inside information from Shams' big brain inside of his cool leather jacket. He's probably, I don't know, plus 100, which might be even money around there. I don't know. Yeah, plus 100, that's good. Pac-Man has a question for you, Shams. Shams, nobody's talking about the East with the the knicks and the heats it's like the lc south i guess

all right listen relax please i think everyone i think everyone in the league and fans i guess audience it's always been about boston Philly and Milwaukee and Denver and Phoenix and the L.A. teams. And, like, the Knicks in Miami, that's why Jimmy Butler, the way he's played his point game and the dog that he plays with, the energy that he plays with. Yeah, Jordan-like.

It's clearly sticking out in New York. That's also a throwback series too, guys. Like, you watch those teams play, you think about the 90s, you think about the 2000s. Like, you think about when basketball used to be in the 80s and 90s. Now watch those teams play. You think about the 90s. You think about the 2000s. You think about when basketball used to be in the 80s and 90s. Now you have teams. We saw the Warriors game last night. That was way in the 100s.

You'll have games tonight. Philly, Boston. That'll be in the 100s. That's a throwback series. Maybe that's why. Nuggets 97-87 or something the other night. I think they felt 80. That's another great example, Pat. I love it. You're all in on the Suns. I feel like they – and then 80 – I think they've held – Teams are – 80. That's another great example, Pat.

I love it. You're all in on the Suns. I don't know if you're all in on the Suns. You're all in on the NBA playoffs. All in on the Suns. That was a rugged game as well. Those teams were playing hard, and you want to see that scrappy, gritty basketball. Okay, so that's what I learned from the game that I got to go to in L.A.

Yep. Every single possession, they're pissed. Like, there is – Real defense. It's real. I think that is always the knock on the NBA. They're not trying on defense. It's more of an offensive game and everything like that. These dudes were banging.

They were big bodies bumping into each other early. I thought they would call all this shit. It seems like they kind of set the tone for each game. it's like jokers games there's a lot more contact happening underneath than maybe other games because he is they're banging down there that big fuck he's a bully it's awesome to watch he's he's a monster and i think yes i think something about the nuggets is it's easy to overlook them it's easy to overlook them. It's easy to overlook Nikola Jokic's greatness. And maybe like 10 years from now, we're going to say,

dang, like how did Nikola Jokic not win MVP? He was the third guy ever, Pat, third player ever to average a triple-double in NBA history. This year. Russell Westbrook, Nikola Jokic, first center. And so he had an impressive, impressive season. The one thing, though, about Denver that I love, and I can't wait to keep watching these playoffs, Jamal Murray.

He looks like he's back. He's a dog. He's a guy that's 2020 in the bubble. I saw it. I was in the bubble. He was one of the best players down there. He emerges a superstar. Unfortunately, he tore his ACL.

He made it fully back. And I think now he's back to being that man. He's as a superstar and fortunately tore his ACL. He made it fully back and I think now he's back to being that man. He's that dude for sure. Probably the closer to that organization. Choms, first off, you look like Travolta, so that's awesome. Oh yeah, that Comcast commercial was pretty good, wasn't it?

Looks like you're going to be bald, Choms. T-Mobile, T-Mobile. No, that's not true. That's not true. You talked about I'm a TNT guy. You know, fast, reliable's not true. That's not true. Is it pilot? You talked about. I'm a TNT guy, you know, fast, reliable, and secure. Wow, that's Verizon. Verizon is the best, reliable, and secure. Verizon is the largest and best in the game.

Yeah. By far. Best network out there, bitch. Not even a question, dude. Anyways, he didn't have to get that serious, but shout out Verizon. And you, shout out... AT&T.

There you go. Ours is better, but... Way better. You talked about listening to Draymond's show on your stupid AT&T phone. You mentioned... Probably dropped coverage. Yeah, and you mentioned him saying

good things about Jordan Poole. Does he have to say that? Because I also saw a video of them walking off the court the other night. It seemed like Jordan Poole still hates him. Is that true? Oh, what's that all about? Yeah, I think, and it's interesting that you mentioned that because I think that was part of the reason, I don't know if you guys saw,

I did a story over the weekend. Stephen Curry gave a speech to the warriors team uh before he dropped 50 he spoke to the team and a lot of what he was talking about was we have to all put our feelings to the side and some of those comments from what i'm told they were directed at guys like jordan pool because you know to to win to win at a high level to compete these thoughts are so intense you need everyone the camaraderie's got to be there everyone's got to be aiming for the right goal. I think he laid it out there. If you're

still in your feelings, you're in your emotions, don't come on the bus to Sacramento for Game 7. Stay at home. If you do believe in us and if you want to put your feelings aside and play for us, come on the bus. Trust me. I got this. He goes out and puts up 50. I don't think anyone saw 50 coming, but he went out and did that because he's that dude.

But I think the different moments of tension, I think that's been there at points. And I don't know if it's the incident that happened, the punch that happened, more than it's just, you have two different crops of players on this Warriors team. You have the older guard of Steph Curry, Jermon Green, Clay Thompson, Andre Godala,

and then you have younger guys like Jonathan Kaminga, Jordan Poole, guys that are ready for the opportunity, guys that probably want to be playing high minutes right now. And so there's going to be that existence. It's going to be that existing clash at different points. But at the end of the day,

I think Jermon Green has been pretty vocal that he's turned the page, that him and Jordan Poole are fine. They've had their moments. And I do think Draymond Green, for all intents and purposes, he's found his voice again. It's not like he's been nuzzled, muzzled, or whatever the word is, like he was maybe early in the year, where he was kind of walking on eggshell early in the year.

So the prince walks around all day saying, one day I'm going to be the king. And the king walks around all day saying, not today.'m going to be the King. And the King walks around all day saying, not today. That's an interesting situation brewing over there in Golden State for their team. Because the one team that's the King, they've already been crowned numerous times. They still have a chance. So all these guys have been. But Jonathan Kaminga has a ring.

Jordan Poole has a ring. So now all these guys have rings. They're all young. They got one, though. You're right. They don't have four. No, like I have zero. Okay? all young. They got one, though. You're right. They don't have four. No, like I have zero. Okay, so I am not saying anything about that.

But that's a tough, like, know your role type. You're going on to a team that is, and if you're not one of those guys, that feels like something that could be difficult. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? They just paid you a hundred and some million dollars. Jordan?

Pool just got broken off. Just got broken off. I could see how that would be very difficult, especially if you're like... So that's why you shoot with 12 seconds left in the game, down three. It's like such a big deal. Better make...

Oh, no, Shams. Did that add to it? Are we okay over there? Is everything... Because we got a guy here, Pac-Man Jones, said if the Lakers go up 2-0, there's no way they're going to lose. If they end up losing the series after going up 2-0,

which is going to be very difficult in Oracle, we understand. The odds are stacked against you. He's going to lose. If they end up losing the series after going up 2-0, which is going to be very difficult in Oracle, we understand. The odds are stacked against you. He's going to shave a third of his hair. He's going to shave a third of his hair if that happens. Joel Embiid coming back tonight, I mean, part of that is also like, yo, you're Philly. You have a chance to go up 2-0 on Boston, on the road.

That opportunity does not come along. I think the odds of winning the series when you're up 2-0, stealing the road game, is way over 90%. So I think that's what Lakers are going to be looking at. That's what Philly's going to be looking at tonight. You want to go up 2-0 on the road if you can. Miami, you know,

Jimmy Butler wanted to play. His ankle just was not there laterally. His movements just were not there. And so he didn't play. But these teams, if they can, if they can get healthy and play their guys, they want to go up to all on the road. Head, shoulders, knees, ankles. Yes.

And ankles. Is it his knee or his ankle, Jimmy Butler? I thought it was his knee. It's his ankle. Jimmy Butler is his ankle. Oh, because I thought he had that thing on his leg. Remember? Yeah.

But his foot. That's for his nerve, right? I'm not sure what the brace is for, but the device, the strap, they call it the strap. Stimulate the nerve. Around his leg. But he was walking there with his big-faced coffee on his Instagram story before game.

We're like, okay, thought he was playing. That looks good. He's got to be close, right? We're assuming he's playing. He's all the way good? You know, these things can be fluid. And 24 hours before game two, I would have told you, I assuming he's playing he's all the way good you know these things can be fluid in 24 hours before game two i would have told you i think he's going to play but you know you see the response time you see how you feel the next day you feel you see how you feel after

shoot around you see how the day goes on how treatment goes on and some guys just don't feel like they get their laterally their movement these are high stakes games like joel and beat tonight in pre-game warm-ups if you feel like you want to make sure you can play at the highest of levels, that's what these guys are preparing to do. All right. Well, we appreciate the hell out of you, Shams. Who's going to win it? Who's going to win?

Give us an answer. I mean, I think it's all over the place. Just answer the question. This guy's wearing a leather jacket. Answer the fucking question. Talking about the little things, the finer details. He doesn't have one winner. What do you know?

Run it back, my ass. Well, I think tonight, you know, I think tonight one of the Sixers or Celtics is going to win the game. Okay, thank you. Really, really good. You're a prince. Really, really good. We appreciate you.

You look cool. You give us all the inside information. You're the best. Ladies and gentlemen, Shamshuaya. Yes, sir. All right. We'll get some phone calls on the other side here. 1-833-432-3663 or 1-833-4-DUNK.

Took a couple calls yesterday. Oh, yeah. Huh? A couple great ones. A couple good ones, yeah. A couple good ones. I don't remember. Well, there was that one asshole who tried to give a shout-out,

but then the guy after dunked on him, so that was kind of cool. Oh, yeah, birthday. Happy birthday. Can't have that. Didn't know it was your birthday today. You know, the 500 phone line was gone for a bit, mostly because we didn't have the technology to be able to do it. Right.

Did we assume that we were going to be able to get that technology because it was very much a part of the plans as we're moving in maybe perhaps we were told building a studio is a very very interesting thing to do would never recommend it to anybody no actually yeah for those of you listening don't go out there and try building and Stu. No, there's people out there that have shows that are incredible that watch our show. I get a lot of people that message me that. And it's very, very cool. I feel very honored to be in this position.

And someday, I hope that, you know, there'll be more and more and more and more shows just like ours. Just strictly because I think this is where you get, like, the most information and shit. And there's people that have the capabilities of streaming live from their bedrooms in 4K and have multiple shots and people are very talented.

You try to build one of these fucking things though, I would not. I would not advise you doing that. No, but taking like a room in your house and like converting that to a studio. That's cool. Definitely do it. Taking a massive building and then having multiple studios and wires running everywhere and then expecting everything to be simpatico with one another

and work hand in hand. Very difficult. And TVs all look like one. Might have thought that was the case. On paper it was. You live and you learn. I'm 36 now. It's really coming into its own though I'd say. The draft night we used every single room. Yeah it worked perfectly we didn't take any calls they

should have to call in draft night no time no time so much action yeah five and a half hours yeah no time american hero is kind of like a how about red panda oh my god i've never seen that like that in person that was bananas wasn't it, the American Escape Hero you're talking about? Michael? You're talking about Michael Johnson? Yep. He sucked out. He swallowed like 18 needles. 40. 40.

Oh. Do you think punching his stomach was for effect, or does that really rustle him up and get him? Yeah. That's how he ties him onto the string. Oh, that's the tying? Yeah. So he's like, hey, bladder, do it.

And then every once in a while you gotta help a little bit I was worried he was going to knock the wind out of himself he was fucking socking himself so hard he took that thing from all the way up here one time you didn't see him pull his shirt up he was a fucking 12 pack he wasn't knocking well I assume yeah he's Billy TC

I have a question would it have been any less impressive if he did like 5 to 7 needles as opposed to 40 yeah honestly anything under 39 doesn't do the trick Would it have been any less impressive if he did like five to seven needles as opposed to 40? Yeah. Honestly, anything under 39 doesn't do the trick. That's right. He was doing it for Jesus, I think.

Excuse me? 40 days and nights. Okay. Every one of those represents a time. Wow. What if that was a full religious joke? The needles came out of the cave. What did the string represent? The string was our perpetual unity

with each other. It's like a circle. There's no edges. He said he usually does nails, too. No, he never said that. First time I talked to this guy, it was very interesting. We had to find... Did he stay at the house with Sam or what? No, no, no.

He did make a trip out here beforehand. He doesn't sleep he made a trip out here beforehand you know to explore exactly that might be he did like a he did a sound check like when did he come out he sleeps in a wooden box so we we were able to get a hold of this particular magician i'd never heard of this man before but he is accomplished i have a resume okay you've heard he's from ohio great resume has been there done that and uh we're able to get a hold of him, get his rate, get in contact with him. Not easy. It's easy to get people's rates, but to get in contact with him, to turn around like a week and a half, because that's how much time we thought.

Maybe a magician comes in here and does it. So he's a good businessman. The amount of money he wanted up front for the conversation about what could potentially be done, because I wasn't sold on some of the things that were being pitched, but knew he had the capability within his magical soul to figure something out. So him coming out here and talking to me, I'd been told by Zito that this guy, he eats nails, he does knots,

he gets out of things. So this guy's already in here. I literally just got off a pretty massive call pretty massive call i walk out i turn the corner out of my office this guy's sitting here i go hey my man how you doing but nice to meet you and he goes um michael whatever what's his last name johnson griffin griffin michael griffin he had a leather jacket on like shams yep he looks so fucking cool i was so pumped to talk to him

And I was like I hear you swallow nails How'd you get into swallowing nails I don't swallow nails He was so mad Zito kept doubling down on the nails I was like so you don't swallow nails Needles I go

Okay alright sweet I'm excited for this. I'm like, the needle's got to be tough because people die from it all the time. I'm like, oh, my God. Do we got anything else we could potentially? He was good to work with, though. Yeah, I know. He had good energy.

He also does the propane car crash where it blows up and he appears somewhere else. Dude, he's an American escape hero. He is. Did he rewatch? Sorry, Con, did he rewatch? Sorry, Con. Did he rewatch because he couldn't hear Mad Mel telling people to double choke slam him when he was doing part of his... Mad Mel was collaborating with him.

Yeah, that's right. AJ, if you think he couldn't hear just because he didn't have ears in... True. He's the great American escape hero. Yeah. You're right. He hears everywhere. He's all-knowing.

He hears everything. All right, let's get to a phone call, then we'll take a break. Let's go to Alex in Texas on the 5RNG phone line. What's going on, Alex? What's up, Pat? What's up, fellas? Let's keep it moving. Hey, love everything about that, Alex.

Cheers to you. All right, I just want to say real quick, Pat, I've been going through some shit lately, and listening to your show every day really helps me keep it moving. So I just wanted to tell you happy belated birthday, and you guys are making a difference in the world. Love you guys. Alex, I in the world. Love you guys. Alex, I appreciate the hell out of you, man.

That was very, very kind. Thank you for allowing us to be a part of your life. Birthday's over, Alex. My birthday's over. Can't wait for yours, though, Alex. Can't wait for your fucking birthday. Happy birthday, Alex. Happy birthday, Alex.

Happy birthday, Alex. I appreciate the hell out of you, man. All right. Oh, shit. Love you too, Alex. Love you too, shoot. Love you too, Alex. That was very kind of Alex. I did not know that was what that call was going to be. Glass is a little bit foggy. Need to clean them. Need a window

cleaner. Was he from Oklahoma? That's an important job. That's right. Isn't it? I know a guy. Window cleaner? What happened? What's going on? I don't know about. Oh, there's the greatest window cleaner in Pittsburgh that we know. How do you mean your bud? Yeah, he just got on work. Best window cleaning in the 4- know. You mean your bud? Yeah, he just got an award. Best window cleaning in the

412 area. Really? Congratulations, Joe. Congrats, Joe. The fucking Tribune Review gave him it? No, no, no. It was another prestigious establishment. Society of Window Cleaners? No, no. I don't know if it was the actual

cleaners themselves. Better Business Bureau? It was somebody. It was the best cleaning in all of Pittsburgh. Good job, Joe. Joe's a good dude. I met Joe. Yeah, Joe's a good dude. Taking over the Midwest. Joe's a hippie music artist. Oh, I looked up the Valley News Dispatch.

Oh, okay. Here we go. I never won an award from them. I was runner up. I was runner up. I was runner up. Oh, yeah. Shout out to Andy. Is he good? Is he good with the squeegee? I watch those guys do the squeegee where they don't even have to wipe it once.

They do a gigantic window. He's an artist. Did you not see him? He was holding a hippie guitar right there, cigarette out of his mouth. You don't think he's fucking wax on? Why doesn't he have a commercial for him? He has a secret, though. That's a good idea. The homeless guy that he killed,

he took his skin and uses it as a squeegee so that it actually works really well. What? That is not true. Could be. That is not true. I heard Mark Madden say that once, too. Mark Madden is a local sports talk legend who has had the highest ratings in Pittsburgh radio for 20 years.

Suck it. I would assume 20 years. He just goes crazy. One day out of nowhere, and I don't know the origin story, so I think Nick would have to say this. Mark Madden was their coach. They were world ball hockey champions. They actually traveled to go play deck hockey, ball hockey against people in other countries. And then somehow, some way, Joe Hadley, like all world, actual ball hockey,

can't hang it up, loves the sport too much. Loves it. Lives for it. At this age, two times a week, he's going out on that deck, and he's giving it everything he's got. He's like Ram Jam. Oh, yeah, Randy Robinson. He's like Randy Robinson.

But Mark Madden just started saying this guy killed a guy just on his show. At Sugar Plum Days. No, no, no. Sugar Plum Days was not the beginning of his murder. That's what he said. That's what Double M said. This is a real kid, though. That's what the police report said, too.

This is a real human. And this is like on Pittsburgh Air. So Joe meets somebody who listens to Madden. You killed a guy. He's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. This guy's cleaning windows. That's a thing. That's your first thoughts when he's like, we know him in high school's cleaning windows. That's a thing.

That's your first thoughts when he's... We know him in high school. We've known him a long time. Diggs goes, yeah, he killed a homeless guy. That was something that was said throughout Pittsburgh. Known him for a long time. And when I first saw and heard that report, I said, makes complete sense. Certainly capable. He did not murder a homeless person, though.

Allegedly. The person had a house, you're saying? All right, let's get to a break. No, the guy did not have a house. He didn't kill anybody. get to a break no i got you not out of the house he didn't kill anybody he's a lover he's a big teddy bear good guy and also he doesn't want us to make a commercial because he doesn't want any more clients yeah he wants less clients yeah he's got to hate this every time you talk oh yeah so mad that's why it just happened yeah yeah is he on the internet? Is he aware of everything?

We just got a text. God damn it. Listen, if you need your windows cleaned though by the greatest in the city, Joe's your guy. Find his number. Call him. Get his services. Windows will never be that clean. You will not regret it.

We do need a website so people can email. Yeah, click this link. Link in the bio. Award-winning window cleaner. They give his home address. All right, let's get to a break. Shout out, Joe. Way to go, Joe.

Love you, Joe. Happy birthday, Joe. Joe said it would. Happy birthday, Joe. And calling right now, live, a man who is in an Ohio attic. Really? And a lot of headlines have maybe started that way and went the wrong direction. But in this particular program, whenever you hear that there's a man in an attic in Ohio,

you know that can mean one thing and one thing alone. That means there's a college football national champion sitting there. There's a Super Bowl champion sitting there. He's not a Ryder Cup champion, no, no, but he is the champion of Ohio. Ladies and gentlemen, the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers, A.J. Hawke. A.J., I don't want to do this. I hate that I have to do this.

We have to start this hour 14 minutes into the hour. So obviously a little different than how clocks operate is when we're starting an hour. Okay. With some disappointing breaking news. We're obviously thankful that That's Hockey Talk will be airing live

from the Thunderdome this evening 8 p.m. Eastern at youtube.com forward slash That's Hockey Talk. We're very thankful that Ruppert, a Stanley Cup champion, is in the Thunderdome at this exact moment because there's some news coming out of the Las Vegas Golden Knights morning skate that is not good news.

Oh, no. One of their stars, Stoner, has tweaked his back at morning skate and left early. Oh, my gosh. Ty Schmidt, I know you've been a Golden Knights fan literally since the inception of the organization and the program. This is a heartbreaker, pal. You guys are done now.

And by you guys, I mean me too because I picked up the team whenever I said if Jackie Aces scores a hat trick, we'll donate $100,000 to somebody. Yeah, this is my worst nightmare. You can see Stoner there back locking up. Pooper sticking out because he can't even bend

his back at all. He had basically reconstructive back surgery during the season. A lot of people, myself included, didn't know if he'd ever be able to walk again. He comes out. Oh, look at that walk. Yeah, terrible. Bruce Cassidy said, assume everything's good. Haven't heard anything differently. Now, we know that hockey players

and NHLers play through a lot of pain, but Stoner's back has been a thing. Ruppert, how often is the back a problem in the sport of hockey? Seems like a pretty big deal. The boards. Oh, yeah. You know, the boards because, like, there's glass.

You know, everybody sees the glass. They just throw it at least. Good cleaning of the glass can be done by a man in Pittsburgh. Yeah, that's right. But there's the glass, and then there's the boards. And there's, like, a good, what, four inches probably there. Four inches. And that's solid.

So when you get hit, you're getting crushed two different places. Your back has to take a beating. This is not good for the Las Vegas Golden Knights. Hey, Ruppert. The back, what does this normally mean for a guy? Look at that. You like that? That's hockey talk, actually.

That may be Zeets. Hey, stick to that for Zeets. Zeets coming through. That's tough. That's a tough looks. Hey, stick to him for Zeeds. That'll be Zeeds coming through. I love getting off. You can get down with your life. Yeah, that's tough. That's a tough look right there coming off the ice by Stoner. And I think Ty said it good or the right way.

I didn't know if this guy was ever going to be the same. Round one, I thought it was, hey, we're going to give it a go, see how he does. He was actually really good in round one. Really good. And he's one of the best when he's healthy. He's one of the best shutdown guys in the league. Locked up, too.

And you're going against the best in NHL record-setting power play in the Edmonton Oilers, Connor McDavid, Leon Dreisaitl. And you see that coming off the ice. Come on. Is Jackie Aces going to score a hattie or what? Hey, you know what? I expect Jackie Aces is going to be money in this because, remember remember those guys

went one two in the draft conor mcdavid jack eichel and it was all well which one's better i mean these are both elite franchise guys connor's kind of run away you know jack's had injury issues obviously switch a team so i think i think jackie's american jackie's american yeah mcdavid is a canadian yeah one two right? That was the draft pick, 1-2? Yeah, 1-2. So Jockey's been getting compared to a guy who has Jesus Christ in his name? Yeah, that's right. That's tough, dude, isn't it? That is.

That's a tough go. He's got aces in his name, though. Yeah, you're goddamn right. Hawking. Hell yeah. And you got that. That's what I said to you before. He almost potted that in the first round, right?

He had two goals early on that game. I'm like, he's going to get an empty netter. Pat's going to – you guys are going to have to be – because you said that – you did that with Flower too, remember? What was Flower? The goalie goal. Yeah, which we had one this year. And he said – and Flower said he was thinking about it.

Like he was thinking about it a number of times. He's always wanted to score a goalie goal. Where are you from? Where who from? Are you just doing like the hockey accent? He said a boat. A boat? A boat.

Oh, did I do it? Hey. He potted on it. Where who from? Are you just doing like the hockey accent? A boat. A boat. Oh, did I do it? I have a chopped up language because, you know, I hang out with Canadians all the time, so you kind of pick up that. But no. Hey, good country, huh, Canada? Yeah, it's nice. They're nice people.

I was going to say, he hangs out with Russians all the time. He didn't pick up communism. Yeah. What the hell? Well, where'd that go, referee? So accent and communism. Similar things you'd just pick up. Two things you'd pick up in a hockey locker room.

Brian Kelly would be fucked. You put him in one Russian restaurant. Because he went down to Louisiana. If I was 20 minutes later, he just picked up their accent. I couldn't even fathom how quick communism would get picked up. He'd be in the KGB. Same thing you're saying, accent. Actually, he kind of runs his program already like that.

He does a little bit. Yeah, he does. All right, Robert. Appreciate you, man. Let's do it. Come on, Stoner. Hey, we want a healthy Stoner. Healthy Stoner.

Hell, yeah, we do. Hell, yeah, we do. Stoney baloney. Yeah. I mean, even if he fucking goes out and plays tonight, there's no way he doesn't have cement in his skates. So does it even't even matter. No.

You sound sad, Ty. I am. Why are you so pessimistic here about Stoner? That was a bad walk off that ice. Exactly. I mean, I'm not kidding. I think they put like 400 rods in the guy's back just so he could stand up. You said it was a slinky before.

Pretty much. That's what it looked like, they said. You know how they always do that x-ray with the dog in the lungs? Yep. You can't even see the dog because it's wrapped by metal. Exactly. And we know, like, when he came back, had cement in the skates, as one will. Not this past time.

He did game one, big time. Cement in the skates, big time in game one. And then he had a couple of apples and a goal in later in the series. They got toured all right in hockey, don't they, you would think? They're playing through a lot over there. I hope. They got to have Toradol. Rupp, you guys have Toradol?

Rupp, you guys use the Toradol? Y'all got Toradol? Y'all take a shot or a pill? That's a great question. Rupp might be back out on it. I'll pick the stick. He had to rotate the stick. Shout out.

Let's play him. I think we got it. We back? We back? You guys do Toradol over there? Shot or a pill? Toradol? Yeah. Oh, amazing. I didn't discover that until... Oh, shit. I think we got it. We back? We back? You guys do Toradol over there? Shadow Appeal. Toradol? Yeah.

Oh, amazing. I didn't discover that until... Oh, shit. They are. Right there. Shit. You take that Toradol, you don't feel nothing. How good is that, huh?

Honestly, man, I remember one of my last years. I'm so glad I didn't discover this until my last year playing. But, yeah, you feel like Superman. Went out there, bad knee, knee swelling up, drained the knee, gave me some Toradol shot. I went out there, felt like I was a young buck again. The next day, I couldn't fucking move. Yeah, yeah.

There's definitely a fall from the Toradol hop. Yeah, it is. There certainly is, but I'll tell you what. It's amazing. It's amazing what you can get through with that stuff. Jumping right back into the Toradol thing is great. Then next week, I had a dislocated kneecap in my kicking leg. Hurt so bad.

Used to do a little Toradol. It's like, we're back, baby. Normal knee. It's anti-inflammatory times 100. They didn't even have it in Green Bay. Do you know that? Didn't even have it in Green Bay. That's crazy. I took it every game, like the first probably six, seven years because that's the thing that the vets was doing. Keith was like, yo,

take this tortle off shot, bro. You're going to be like, Superman, you're not going to feel nothing. Now, two days after the game, you're going to feel it. Like, shit, if I ain't going to feel nothing during the game, I'm in. It's like I played 10, 12 years. Boy, when they banned Toto. They tried to. They tried to.

They did for like a couple weeks where we could only take the pill. And the pill wasn't like the shot. No, no, no. I think that's normal. I think that's a standard conversation when it comes to medicinal services but i i do remember them trying to ban it in the name of player safety yeah right they're like oh we're negotiating about player health we care about you more than you guys care we're gonna ban to it all because we don't know what the 50-year effects for those and they were like trying to do it and then everybody in the nflpa

that was older was like hey can't do that buddy now's not time to do that i'm talking about it's not a waiver we will yeah now it's a full waiver operation afterwards they had to get through that but i remember thinking to myself that the nfl has no idea like it felt like 80 percent of like guys that were on the league pretty much the guys that were making all the money, the vets that were doing it. It's like, hey, yeah, it's really hard to walk, but then this anti-inflammatory that we get, it's like if a chef told you, you add this ingredient to any meal at all, it'll make the meal better. Like every chef's going to take it.

The way Toradol was talked about was like, you don't want any of this stuff, man. You know, you don't want any of this. What's going to happen? Well, you're going to feel like your legs are like 16 years old again. You don't want any of this stuff, man. You know, you don't want to. Well, what's going to happen? You actually like 10 minutes from now won't even need to warm up.

Your whole body will just be like warm or whatever. You don't want any of this stuff, man. It'll last like seven hours. So directly through a game, if you take it at the right amount of time. You don't want any of this it was like that's how it was talked about i understand the nhl has it because that's probably the only way you guys make it through the goddamn yeah sees it comes out that people broken backs like immediately after the season ends yeah it's uh you know i i don't i actually

don't even know what the rules are with it or what if are and there wasn't. Did you guys ever hear of DMSO? Remember that one? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I forgot what that is. It was banned in our league. That one. Yeah, yeah. It was banned in hockey, too.

But that was like a horse. It was like a horse topical cream that you put on, right? So you have guys I know in hockey who put it all over their legs. But the side effect, one of the side effects of it, it smelled when you sweat it smelled like sour milk. So it was disgusting. You come off the bench and the guys next to you smell like curded milk. You guys never heard of that, Pat?

What an outcome, dude. Haley, you don't want to hear this shit, man. The breath smells terrible. Yeah, you always knew if somebody had rubbed it on, you could smell it for a day or two, I feel like. Did you ever use it, AJ? I never tried it. I used it, but it never really did anything for me. I tried for for like was it supposed to be a painkiller what is it it's

like it's supposed to help kind of suck the inflammation out but it's a topical thing where you'd rub it on and you'd wrap this is all stuff that was like passed down from vets so it's not like i mean i heard about this in college then you you would like wrap an a strap over for like an hour or two and then take it off and then your breath smells for two days and everyone yeah knows you're on it and the trainers say what you're doing dms so i know hour or two and then take it off. And then your breath smells for two days and everyone knows you're on it. And the trainers say, you're doing DMS. And I'm like, no, I'm not. And then they can smell you.

They're like, this whole stadium can smell you, bud. You smell me. You smell me. Yeah, yeah. Actually do. So it's not banned or it is banned, DMS? I don't know. I don't know if it is or not.

It ended up becoming banned because all the guys were losing their minds. But it's banned in hockey, I'm pretty sure. Banned your mind. Lose your mind. All right, thank you, Rupert. We appreciate you joining us now as a man. That's Hockey Talk live from the Thunder tonight, 8 p.m. Eastern, youtube.com forward slash that's hockey talk. Should be a great one. We're in the middle

of a great hockey playoff run. Happy we got Rupert here. Joining us now is a man who's in the middle of a golf run. It is his offseason. He just crushed the NFL draft live in Kansas City for 14 days. He is making time out of his scheduled off time to join us right now to let us know that he doesn't know anything. Host of the weekly wrap-up with Rap Sheet and Friends,

us being the friends, he being Rap Sheet, Ian Rapoport. Yeah, Rap Sheet! What's up? Hey, you're at the office. What are you doing? Are you all right? Is everything okay? Yeah, I'm okay.

I just wanted to make sure. I got done with golf early enough that I wanted to make sure we had good Wi-Fi and good lighting, so that's why. How'd you play today? Pretty good? Bad on the front, shot 40 on the back, so 86. Felt decent about it. Pretty good showing early in the season.

Hell, yeah. Are you walking there? Walking, yeah. It's actually somewhat traumatic. I have a push cart this year. Usually I carry, but because I'm old and I don't want to have that stuff on my back that AJ was just talking about, I have to push a cart now. So it's fine.

It just feels ridiculous. But yes, walking. Rap showing up at a walking golf course with DMSO sour milk smell would be so awesome. You need to get one of these bad boys. Rap, you need to get a, the boys got me this scooter golf cart thing that I can take to golf courses. Where? It goes 28 miles an hour. You put the clubs on the back of the thing.

There's a cooler. There's a scorecard thing. There's, it's incredible. Wow. Yeah, this thing's a boss. It really is. That. Wow. Yeah. This thing's a boss. It really is. That looks amazing. Yeah, you need to get one of those.

I think a lot of the traditional. Can I borrow it? Yeah, man. Sure. This might be a little bit too. Yeah, you might need to get a smaller one. Yeah, because you know how like the CCs and stuff? This one has three different.

Yeah, he would have to be. Exactly. Standing on the bottom. Oh, my God god it'd be a low rider if you were sitting there's no training wheels on this one rep oh i could i could figure it out enough to ride it i feel like i would be you're right i might crash a couple times but i feel like i could get that was so rude are you good on two wheels you have a motorcycle ever ride one or a scooter or anything like that uh i have an electric scooter that i ride around town

and take my boys to school, but I would not say it's exactly a high-powered thing. So you got a GUI scooter? What is this? Both your sons on the back of a scooter and taking them to school. You're riding in the third seat?

No, they ride bikes, and then I ride, just kind of like a stand-up scooter, but it's got a motor, so I just kind of, you know. Oh, a bird. You got a bird. I got a bird. Basically, I got a bird, yes. Okay, okay.

I'm happy that it's made people more athletic, I think, the bird and everything like that. Now, there has been some devastating injuries that have come from the bird app. Somebody we know blew out their entire shoulder, worse than any quarterback has ever done on a football field. Who did? Yeah, he just got married. That's Nick Morales.

That's back in record time, though. Collarbone. Broke his collarbone, had a big bump, and also the shoulder got maybe a little AC joint. I was hammered drunk. Hammered drunk. And these Indiana potholes are no joke. No, keep an eye out. They are always sober, too.

They're ready to fuck you up at any time. And they did. Nick. Boom. Sam Bradford. Nick. Boom. Sam Bradford. Yep. Damn. Oh, man.

You just got a picture of your family? It's kind of weird. Lee is not driving. All right. Let's move along to some NFL football stuff. Rap, congrats on the great work at the draft. You crushed it. Thank you.

Thank you for wishing me a happy birthday yesterday. Very, very kind of you. You predicted that I was 40 years old, and when I said I wasn't, you said, oh, you're still young. So I thank you for the kind words and being a good person. Let's talk about the NFL a little bit. Is there anything happening that we don't know about or anything that's about to brew? Because right now we're in the middle of like a purgatory. The schedule is being released here like next week.

Big deal. Social media Olympics now. Hell yeah. This is the team social media Olympics. We get to judge who's social media teams we should put up on a mantle of being a championship quality content makers. This is what this has become. So we enjoy that for the internet, but nothing else really substantial

or are we missing something, Rab? First of all, I kind of really do enjoy that. Us too. I will always – sometimes these social media teams are like, hey, you know, if you could sort of retweet whatever. And I'm like, well, let me watch. And like they're all so good. Like this really has become like the which social media team can outdo the

other. And I literally cannot wait to see these announcements. Chargers, Panthers, Cowboys. Panthers always in the mix yep the panthers had the like old school life one yeah that was awesome it was like our childhood what the boys do cowboys did a great one post malone with jerry jones throwing shit off the top it was like what's going on over there yeah posty posty and jerry were just throwing schedules off the top it's too brave. They were making it rain, yeah.

They had that thing Blue did where it's like it knocks down a bunch of stuff. He was cream pieing everybody. Yeah, and he cream pieed Orlovsky. Oh, yeah, a lot of cream pieing. He's the most followed team affiliated anything in sports on TikTok. My God. More than the Nuggets mascot? The Colts?

The Colts? The cream Pie guy? Yes. Guys, Cream Pie and everybody all the time in incredible fashions. More than Rocky, which we saw Rocky... We saw Rocky's first

real fastball. These eyes. Unbelievable. Found the first real fastball out of Rocky's pocket and I'll tell you what, this fucking mascot needs to be talked about a little bit more he's 35 feet 30 feet in the sky absurd over his head bank shot in

that's right suck it you're welcome you were here for that I think he's strapped into the ceiling has to be I think he's strapped into the ceiling this is obviously incredibly dangerous. Shout out to Rocky. Shout out to Rocky. We need more Rocky.

That reaction is amazing. Just a, I'm done. You're welcome. What a time. I don't know how he knew he was going to make that. I'm happy he did.

How many practice attempts before he got in there? Rocky probably did it the first time. They were throwing another ball up at him and he's like, excuse me,

whoa, I don't need that whole thing. But the social media or schedule release is awesome, to get back to your point. Now whenever it comes the first time they were throwing another ball up at him. He's like, excuse me. Whoa, I don't need that whole thing. But the social media or schedule release is awesome to get back to your point. Now, whenever it comes to like the football stuff, what are we thinking right now? Maybe some free agency,

maybe some trade. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there, there's still a couple like unresolved things from before the draft. And there's still some veterans who have yet to sign like Randall Cobb. I think everybody knew that was coming. That's you know know he signed today with the jets um he knows the quarterback

well um who you know well and he oc um i think that makes sense um you know i think what's that and the oc he knows the oc well as well and that's kind of the missing conversation piece of this whole thing. You're right. And that part is actually pretty important because you've got a bunch of young, pretty talented receivers for the Jets. And you have Randall Cobb, who's a really good professional person who is probably going to help teach them the offense. That part in itself, I know obviously Rodgers is the headline,

and that's fine, and he's awesome. I know like obviously Rogers is the headline and that's fine. And he's awesome. But like teaching all of the other players, the offense on a day by day basis, like that. And then that's why it's important to get Randall Cobb in now. Like a lot of veterans sign like right before camp. But my guess is he signed now so he could be in OTAs and start the

process of like, here's what you're supposed to see. Here's how it works. What a time over there for Jets fans. They got to be pumped up about it. And the headlines will always say what the headlines say, but I's what you're supposed to see here's how it works what a time over there for jets fans they got to be pumped up about it and the headlines will always say what the headlines say but i enjoy what they're doing and aaron seems very happy go ahead aj ian what's next uh for you or i guess everyone in the the football media are does every team have rookie minicamps coming up this week and what kind of footage are we going to see we see

any of these guys in action a little bit here we go. So some teams have rookie minicam this week. Some teams have it next week. The really sort of dedicated coaches have it the following week so they can follow the Kentucky Derby this weekend. There's a couple of those. Take note of who that is. The Patriots, I believe, are one of those teams. I love that.

Rookie minicam used to be like a real competitive thing. And then we started seeing guys get injured and, man, the Jaguars had one. Was it Dante Fowler who tore his ACL during rookie minicamp? And then I think coaches started saying like, what are we doing? Walkthroughs. So I think what you're going to get now is like some will be on the field, but I don't know how competitive it's going to be. I think it's more of like a teaching session. And this is sort of like an underrated thing.

But a lot of these guys have been traveling the country, not working out as much, obviously, because they've been doing like top 30 visits and, you know, the draft and like all. So if you just throw them out there on a field and be like, all right, go full speed, like they're not ready for that. So I think teams have really pulled back on what rookie minicamp should be, and that's probably a good thing. We had a corner out of USC, maybe a third-round draft pick. I forget.

He was a cool dude. I was a big fan of his. Great tats. He looked super cool. I mean, super cool. I think he got hurt rookie minicamp, like ACL or something. Damn. And then came back afterwards, but, like, we had no idea what he would have been

or what he wouldn't. It was like that was a tough start to his career, and I think he would have been good. From talking to him, the mentality he had as a human felt like if he had the skills to be drafted as high as he was drafted, probably going to be able to have a career. And then I think rookie minicamp, it all ended. That's terrible. One week after

you get drafted, bro, that would suck so bad. But some people, undrafted free agents, trying to make a team, I assume they're going for it, though? They have to go through full tryouts, or what do you think that's like? Yeah, I mean, I think there are some tryouts, and actually, you'll probably

see some veterans kind of taking part in some of these minicamps. Like it'll be like rookies and then a couple of veterans trying to trying to get a futures contract or trying to latch on. So I think they'll they'll work out. But I just I don't think it'll be as competitive as it used to be. And like there's a lot of time for rookies to try to make a team in training camp. And like injuries are bad in training camp too. Like every, you know,

there's a couple every year where it's like season and injury in practice. And those suck too. But at least then the guys are kind of physically ready for it. You know, AJ, I don't know what your rookie minicamp was. Mine was strenuous. I mean,

I had no idea how to punt and they had to be putting 40 times a day in front of everybody it was something former voice of the indianapolis colts actually heard him go this is the guy one time and it was like man i haven't figured out how to do it i have not i was i was hitting him right like way right there was other there was like three other punters on the team at the time like guys that had been floating around or whatever and they were all much better than me that weekend i mean it was a very evident thing. They knew how to punt a football in the NFL style, which is like two steps, punt that thing straight up in there.

And I remember that rookie minicamp being like my biggest nightmare. Like, oh, no, I got to go out there again tomorrow. I got no idea what to do. I thought at least I get a few months to figure this whole thing out. Dropped right in it. Whole team is there. Here's Dallas Clark. Here's Robert is there. Here's Dallas Clark. Here's Robert Mathis.

Here's Jeff Saturday. They're all looking out the glass. This guy fucking sucks. This guy is terrible. It's like that was a real thing. But we had practices. I think we were practicing. Did you guys practice?

We had full camp. It was Big Mike's first year. It was the full team. So, like, I got thrown in there. Bam, we're going against the starters. Yeah, full plays, though. I think, like, very active. Damn. Oh, yeah.. It was the full team. So, like, I got thrown in there, bam, we're going against the starters. Yeah, full plays, though. I think, like, very active. Damn.

Oh, yeah. Ours was camp without pads. That's what ours was. Yeah, I think ours was that as well. I don't remember where you were like. That's so crazy. Everything with Fisher was camp cupcake. It was like no physical hitting or anything.

But we did seven on seven and all of that. Did you learn your offensive plays in that rookie mini camp right there? Is that when that started? I only had like three or four plays, so that was pretty easy to learn. Hey, it's big brand football. Connor has a question for you, Rap, about a little drama maybe. Yeah, Rap, Jason

is saying that he spoke to an anonymous GM that told him that the Patriots and Steelers trade at 14 was specifically to fuck with the Jets. Now, I love that, but is that an actual thing? You know, the Jets pissed off that that's exactly why the Patriots did it, was just to screw over them? I do not believe that is the thing.

Oh, come on. You know you've been golfing. You shot an 86 today. Yeah, you don't fucking know. You don't know? What do you know, huh? Connors and Bill Belichick. Missed a birdie putt on, missed like a seven-foot birdie putt on 16.

Hey, PGA guys are like, or Tiger Woods is like 52% from eight feet over his entire career. People think eight-footers are like easy. It's like, no way. I mean, but I don't make any of them. Like, I don't make any of them. Do you know your eye dominant? Oh, you call it, son.

You ever done this number here? Put something in. Put something. Hey, put something in your, like, a circle in your hands here. Like, for both your eyes, put an object that is like your scope. Put the object in the middle of the circle from your eyes right now. And then close one eye. And then close the other eye. Where do you see it your eyes right now, and then close one eye and then close the other eye. Where do you see it?

Oh, yeah, left eye, left eye. Okay, so are you a righty golfer? Yeah. Okay, so you should be good. Yeah, so you're just second golf, that's all. I'm the same way, though. Yeah. I'm not making a lot of putts, and I'm left-eyed dominant righty either.

I shot 86. I suck that bad. If I two-putt, I'm very happy. I don't randomly just make a putt. He's two-putting every time. The hole he's aiming for is just gimme territory. That's right. That's what you're aiming for?

Yeah. Two-putts are great. I'll take them all day long. Yeah. Are you getting all that stuff? I made one 25-footer today. Oh, what? It was definitely by accident, and I did not even hit it.

This guy sucks, dude. Are you kidding me? Oh, I never make those. And then, oh, today I drained a 30-fucking-footer, dude. Okay. Kind of want to laugh, and then I not even hit it. This guy sucks, dude. Are you kidding? Oh, I never make those. And then, oh, today I drained a 30-fucking-footer, dude. Okay. Kind of went left and then it kind of broke back and then it hung on the cup and then boom!

That whole thing happened. You're a pretty good little golfer, huh? That was rude. Mediocre. What's your problem? Kind of like a Louis Oosterhoof. Let's get back to the Patriots-Steelers thing. You're saying that didn't happen? Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay. So, right, good. What's your problem? Let's get back to the Patriots-Steelers thing. You're saying that didn't happen? Oh, yeah, yeah.

Okay, so right, right. So I will say this. I think they knew who they were jumping or who the Steelers were jumping, right? But I don't think at that point – I think the most important thing to the Patriots was that the person who's coming up to take our spot is not going to take the one or two guys that we like. I mean, I think a lot of people probably knew that the Jets wanted a tackle at that point. And there was probably not that, you know, there's really only one of the top, top tackles that was available. Broadway Jones, I believe, was who that was. I just don't, the Patriots care about picks and value.

Like, would they like to screw over the Jets? Like, I don't know. Like, probably. But I do not believe that that was forefront of them. And, in fact, like, if you were to bring that up to them afterward, I would guess they would probably be a little surprised that they – that it's being played out as, like, they specifically screwed the Jets. That said, the Jets, you know, probably could have moved up that one spot too,

but you would have had to give up picks for it, and they obviously decided not to do that. Hey, the con artist, you know, who will be on the show tomorrow. Let's go. He's a part of this whole thing. I wonder if that was a part of the sell for Bill to take the trade. Hey, also, Jets aren't – we know what the Jets want. Let's go ahead and do this whole thing.

Or if he even told them, like, hey, we're going to take a tackle. There's a team right behind you that might take a tackle. That's what I'm saying, if it was part of the sell. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, like if he – I mean, maybe. And maybe that's how – Good question. And maybe that's how it gets reported, you know,

because, hey, he hadn't brought up that whole thing, you know. Like reporting could be anybody hearing something and then being from good sources right right i mean but this is why like then it's such like a scramble for knowledge during the draft because the patriots had to make that trade knowing like okay they might trade up for someone that we want and obviously that's a risk so you have to do your homework and be like all right right, the Patriots end up taking Gonzalez like two picks later, but they have to be like, either the Steelers might be getting our guy and we're okay with that, or we know they are not.

The other thing I would say, and I kind of just like, I had some conversations over the last couple days about this. What it sounds like teams do is they'll be like, oh, you're coming up, like let's say like the Patriots and Steelers, and I'll be curious to see what Omar says about all this stuff. But basically what teams will say is like, you're coming up, like, let's say, like, the Patriots and Steelers. And I'll be curious to see what Omar says about all this stuff. But basically what teams will say is, like, you're coming up for someone. Like, what position? And then it's sort of like common courtesy to be like, we're coming up for a tackle.

Like, all right, we'll do this trade. So, like, not everyone does it, but there are some teams who can sort of be transparent about, like, why are you doing this trade and then let it play out from there. So there's precedent set. Like, hey, you are allowed to tell somebody what you're going to take, even if it's two picks you're sliding up for. What a play. Good for them.

I can't wait to chat with Colin tomorrow because he is operating completely differently than what the Steelers normally operate like. And I'm excited to hear if this was what he told them whenever he was interviewing because there was a lot of people that were up for the job. And I wonder if he said, like, hey, modern nfl got to be able to make moves and be aggressive seems like they're hitting home runs all over the place i i expect tomorrow's convo to be a good one yeah

it was very it's he's he's obviously he's definitely being more uh how do i active yes active aggressive uh as a gm which i think in this modern day nfl you have to be um yeah and i love it okay ty has a question for you about a gm getting active yeah rap sheet uh a lot of people or i don't know if i should say a lot of people but people were poking holes in the jordan love deal uh both on his side and on the packers side um I think a lot of Packers fans thought that it seemed like a pretty fair deal both ways, just considering they still don't really know what they've got with him. In terms of league circles and people you talk to,

what was kind of the consensus on that? And also, we were talking about the fifth-year options earlier, and I don't know if it's because he's made a Pro Bowl or playing time or whatever but why is justin herbert making like seven million dollars more than two when he was drafted behind one behind him yeah so uh they changed the way the fifth year i'm gonna screw this up but they changed the way the fifth year of course calculated a couple years ago and i believe that pro bowls or all pro does actually affect okay that it used

to be just like just the draft slot but like the reality is like jordan love shouldn't like a quarterback shouldn't have the same fifth year option as a running back even though they're a couple so they change the way they're calculated and i believe now it's based on an average of a certain number of highly paid players at your position, and it can be changed based on if you make the Pro Bowl or are an All-Pro. So I think that's why the number is different. Is it playing time or playing percentage that could be added in there as well, or is it just strictly like awards incentives, you think? I think it's mostly just awards and performance rather than play time.

Got it. Yeah, I'm a one rookie of the year. Yeah, it makes sense. So that probably adds in. And has been a Pro Bowl, right? And it made the playoffs. Yeah. Yep.

But so did Tua. I found it. No Pro Bowl. Hold on, we got the information. Sorry, you let us do the proper answer. Tell me the actual information. Sorry. You let us do the proper answer. Turn. What is it? Actual facts. Okay. So Pro Bowl is definitely one of them in there because it has the chart.

Playing time also is in there. It's 75% or greater in two of their first three seasons of snaps. An average of 75% or greater over all three seasons. There it is. So it's playing time, Pro Bowl, multiple Pro Bowls. All right. Sweet. Okay.

So we got there. Good for us. Good show. Well, you were implying that I would not have been able to be right, but happy that I was because we cleared it up because nobody understood it whenever it came up. Because like to a drafted ahead, you think he would get rewarded with the fifth

year option because that's how every other contract is. I like that there's been enough conversation in change. It's like, you think just because he was drafted ahead five years ago, he should get the same amount? That seems smart. That seems like progression. For the guys that didn't get him, what do you think that means? Like, hey, see you later?

Or everybody's got contract years? There's a lot of precedent for guys making a lot of money who didn't get fifth-year options. I mean, like Corey Davis is just – I was thinking of the Jets. Corey Davis is one. He got his fifth-year option declined and then cashed in big with the Jets. I think Bruce Irvin was the first one I remember. Because, you know, as like people who follow this, you're like, oh, man,

like the guy didn't get his fifth-year option picked up. Obviously it means whatever. Like players can turn this into a very, very good thing. They get to be a free agent a year earlier. So if you're – and that's why the Jordan Love one, just to go back to that, was so interesting because had the Packers said, you know what, we're just going to decline, the options were he's free or the franchise tag. So the actual contract, it was much discussed.

It was very interesting. And I'm having a hard time figuring out who won, which probably means it was a good compromise. I think so. But, you know, like it was – so basically for Jordan Love, he gets to make more money than he's ever made in his career, but he gives up a year of – probably wasn't going to be free, but gives up the franchise tag.

His money that he can make is less than the franchise tag. However, if something bad happens and either he plays not good enough or he gets injured, he gets to make, I think it was $13.5 million. He protected his downside, probably limited his upside,

but if he's really good, then he's going to make a lot of money. If he does really good, they're going to renegotiate a deal and not let him go into his final year of his contract if they see something for the future anyways, right? That would be the hope. That would be the hope. But the Packers sometimes wait to do it the December before.

New Packers. Right when you're about to be free. This is new Packers. This is brand new Packers. Whole new era. Everybody can do stuff different. Quarterbacks at OTAs in New York, New Jersey. Out there, you got Jordan Love. I mean, we got, hey, whole new era. Who can do stuff different. Quarterbacks at OTAs in New York, New Jersey. Out there, you got Jordan Love.

I mean, we got, hey, whole new era. Who knows what's up? Just like the Pittsburgh Steelers being very different. Teams can change. I'll be excited to see what happens with Jordan Love. He gets $14 million now and maybe a long-term deal at the end of the year. Might be able to have your cake and eat it too. Go ahead, AJ.

Ian, how serious do you think the Titans were to try to get up into the draft to take C.J. Stroud? I think if he had fallen to three, they definitely would have been in the conversation. And, you know, for basically like had they – He did fall to three. And obviously that's what – C.J. Stroud?

He did fall to three. No, no, no. You're 100% right. They get Will Anderson at three yeah so the market i guess for number three overall after cj stroud goes goes way down probably it disappeared and then and that's so i'm just like in my head i'm thinking like all right stroud goes two and then obviously the cardinals aren't going to be able to trade because the market just disappeared but then the texans jump in and like, oh, hello.

And then they pulled that big trade, which was kind of the stunner of the draft. That was a lot of fun, but they kind of took advantage of the Cardinals losing their market. But then the Cardinals did a really nice deal too. So they ended up getting a lot back. So I think it probably is going to work out on both sides. But anyway, I do believe the Titans were serious about it. I think if Stroud had fallen to two, it would have been a very interesting conversation to see, like,

you know, do they end up getting it done? Probably would have. But then, on the other hand, now they get Will Levis at, like, probably a really good value late in the second round when he could have gone four, and that would have made But then the other hand, now they get Will Levis at probably a really good value late in the second round when he could have gone four and that would have made sense too. Yeah, maybe. I mean, it sounds like everybody in Indianapolis knew they were taking Anthony Richardson like a

month before the draft. How come you didn't get that information? And they are so fired up. Oh my God. Me too. I don't know about all Colts fans, but I'm pumped to see a guy that does round off backflips all the time. Oh my god. Me too. I don't know about all Colts fans, but I'm pumped to see a guy that does round off backflips all the time. That's cool. As a

fan who likes watching football, I kind of hope he plays early. He is. Chris already told us. Welcome to the Draft Spectacular. Jeez. This guy. Jeez Louise. What did he tell you before the draft? Nothing.

Absolutely nothing. He was terrible. It was not good. As soon as he got on, they're like, he has to be off in four minutes. It's like, we should have not done this. This was a bad idea. And then they hit us up after. They're like, hey, you want him back or whatever.

It's like, yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. He's awesome. He's always been so good to us. He told us nothing beforehand. Afterwards, though, he basically said it might be ugly early yes like this might be he's planning on playing him he's planning on getting him in there and he's he's trying to set expectations that like there's a chance this doesn't go well uh we took him at number four

overall so expectations are always going to be high he said but early it might be ugly but we have faith in who he's going to be we're betting on a ceiling is what they're saying. There's no reason not to. The guy seems to be fucking awesome. And his little brother, I'd like him to be a Colt too. That's right. I'd like his little brother to be a Colt. Ten years.

Last question here for you, Rap, from Pac-Man Jones. Hey, Rap, I want to know the beef with these GMs. Is it a real beef between some of these general managers? Because, like, you see different stuff in the papers, people trading up to f this general manager or is it just all business um you know i i think not everyone is 32 of them and not everyone is best friends um i would say it's probably less beef than than you would imagine because like they compete but they're also all at the same events, and a lot of them have the same agents.

There's not that many coaching agents, right? Like two GMs were hired this year. Both have the same agent. So they all are kind of – and like a lot of their wives know each other. There's a lot of crossover. There's probably not as much beef as you would think. I would expect it to be more like friendly needling than like screw that guy. You know what I mean?

Got it. Okay, yeah. Competitive banter as opposed to we don't like as opposed to like yeah because like reality is it's nobody wants to see firings that's kind of bad for business because if one guy gets fired then you don't want your owner to be like oh wow like maybe i should think of this you want them to be rich you want them to get big contract extensions because then you might get one. So you are sort of a little bit rooting for each other in a weird way. Yeah, it's communal it sounds like. Good for all of them. Sounds like they all did good on the draft.

Very positive. Speaking of the draft, we thought DHOP would be traded by then somebody took it on the shins on the internet because it did not happen by the draft. What do you think happens with d hop and when did that come to be you think and we saw the video that he released is arizona are they just back we're good uh was it pac-man who took it on the shins yeah yeah why are you gonna do that yeah why are you so so no here's what i would say no here's what i would say you should not have taken

it on the shit i mean obviously he didn't get traded but there was a chance he could have there were obviously conversations it did not happen okay but it's not like you were i mean it's not like you were wrong there was certainly possibilities different places he could have been traded i mean yeah there were times when i get off his back yeah get traded. Get off his back. Yeah. Get off Pac's back. DeHoff said he never was going to get traded. DeHoff said, I love Arizona. He never said he wanted to leave Arizona. All right. Let's just move past all that.

What was the – Pac, man. You're in the insider game. That's right. You're going to swing. This didn't happen this time. Next time it's going to be awesome. So, look, it sounds like everyone has

kind of usually when these things don't happen by the draft these sort of big moves like maybe they pick up again if someone else like loses a receiver or something in august or july but usually by the time the draft ends like that's kind of you'll add maybe a free agent or two but usually it's kind of set so i would would say based on the conversation where it is, it seems like they're moving forward together. All right. Well, that's great news. We appreciate you joining us and your time off here. You doing any TV at all?

When's the next time you'll be maybe tasting food and judging it? Or maybe talking about horses? I'll be talking about horses all weekend. I'll be back on NFL Network on Monday My horse is Running from the 12th post Come on Jace Probably not going to win but you never know

Jace's road right Come on now Jace You don't like juleps do you I will probably drink many of them Those are bad right aren't they though I mean The lily which is the drink for I will probably drink many of them, yes. Those are bad, right? Aren't they, though? I mean, the Lily, which is the drink for Kentucky Oaks, which is the day before, is actually better,

but I'll still be drinking. So that's this weekend, right, coming up? Yeah, so Friday is Oaks, and then Saturday is Derby. Okay, hey, here we go. Cinco de Mayo weekend. Come on. Kentucky Derby weekend. Wow. He's got a horse in there.

Ian, this might be the most legendary week of your life, maybe. Definitely possible. Or, you know, not. But it'll still be fun. Holy shit. You race your own horse? Yeah. So every owner

gets a chance to take a lap around. That's pretty cool. Another ride. Another ride. Sometimes you get, take the horse up. That's what it could be. For the Masters, sometimes you get to play the day after. This should be like if your horse wins, you get to ride the horse a day. Who gets to play the day after the Masters? Augusta National?

I think like a quarter of the reporters who cover it, there's like a lottery and they get to play. I thought that was before. No, he said the Monday after. I think the Monday after. You have to bring your clubs, and they get to play. And they all, of course. Oh, I thought that was before. Wow. No, he said the Monday after. I think the Monday after. Because you have to bring your clubs, but there's still not a great chance that you can win the lottery. But you bring your clubs anyway because, you know.

They do actual lottery to get on there down there? Yeah. Wow. Good luck out there. Everybody hits the lottery. It's a nice golf course, I heard. Why are you going to say that? Why are you going to say that? Ladies and gentlemen.

Why are you going to say that? I've heard it's a very nice golf course. What do you mean? I would bring my clubs all the way down to, where is it at? It's in South Carolina, Florida? Georgia. Georgia. It's in Georgia?

Yep. I would take my clubs down there just for, what is it, a 25% chance to get on there? Yeah. That's like the place if you get a chance to go on. You go on, right? Oh, yeah. Are you kidding me? Sure, it is lovely.

There's no grass out of place, I heard. No, just trees. You know what people say about it? Oh, yeah. Not one blade. Boom. Dorses say. That's what we heard, ladies and gentlemen.

The tree thing was wild. That was nuts. Yeah. It's the only thing out of place, though. Mm-hmm. What a dream. Ladies and gentlemen, the dream is getting to talk to this guy every single week please tell the family we said hello good luck we'll talk to you i assume

friday are you doing media friday or no i mean if you want to talk to me i'm sure we can figure it out you're gonna be boozed up down there drinking the what'd you call it the i mean i'm gonna try to pace myself yes sure make it to the race dude It's at the end of a long Friday night. That's right. Guy Fieri, I think, has a party. Donkey Sauce? Yeah. Are you going?

Dinkster. We'll be making our way to various parties. I don't know if it will be at the Fieri one, but we got a pretty good idea. Well, now you won't. It's Fieri. Fieri. It's Fieri. He doesn't make cars, asshole. Where are you going?

Are you going to events? Ferrari's a great car. Are you going to events? Ferrari's a great car. Are you going to events down there? Are you hosting any? You can probably get a little sign. No, no, no. I'm a passenger along this ride. Do you guys, for your show, have scheduled events to go to?

No. We have scheduled things. I'm going to meet the horse tomorrow, actually. I'll land, go meet Jace's road. So I've got a bunch of other stuff they've got to do. Shake his hand. AJ goes down there every year. He knows. There are so many events down there. Isn't there, AJ? Parties fucking everywhere.

All night, all day. Yeah, a bunch of different opportunities you can get into. We know Ian will. Hey, good luck. Hey, let's see you next week, huh? We want to see you next week. Good luck down there. Beautiful city, beautiful race. Good luck to Jason's Road, ladies and gentlemen. You're up.

50-1. Hey, 50-1, 12 posts. Take a shot. That's not a good city for Ian to be in this weekend. No, it is not. Because of his alcohol consumption? Yeah. Then maybe it is a good one because there's a lot of alcohol being served.

Yeah, he's got a lot of opportunity this weekend. Yeah, he bumps into the wrong horse. Yeah, what if he gets a back kick? What if he gets a back kick? What if his horse wins? If his horse wins, he might jump on that thing and ride around. Dude, what we would recommend is walk right up behind it, smack it right on the ass.

Yeah. Stand right there, too. Just like in football. You make a good play. Ian, you cover football. Yeah. Do a crossover. Same thing.

Hey, good race, Jace's Road. Pow! Those things are a fucking beast. Huge. So big. Very smart. So smart, so athletic, so strong, so large. There's a bunch of conspiracies about horses and how smart they are

and what they are and everything like that. I guess they can tell when people are sick and shit allegedly. They're supposed to be this very impressive dog next level just like the greatest dog of all time that's why they used to just go into war and just send them right yeah yeah literally just hey need you to go figure it out and just send horses which is crazy because they can never see the bullet coming all right well it's because they're the eyes though that was one of those moments where I saw the face, you know? Get into delivery mode.

Haymaker was coming. And this time. I mean, I love the guy, but. The horse soldiers. That's it. Unbelievable. Got it done there. I was looking at parties down there.

Vianney, obviously. Yeah, I saw pictures of a lot of famous people, Aaron there, Tom, and Tony Romo. Are you going this year? AJ, are you going down to Fieri's party? I'm not going to Fieri's party, but I am going to the Derby, yeah. Oh! With who? Yeah, I will not be here Friday because I'll be taking off tomorrow night to go.

Okay! Happy you're back in the instagram post yeah you bet you got you and aaron holy shit is that because i don't know if we're friends but yeah i'm gonna go to the derby with them we'll see how it goes okay stay away from them don't make it awkward yeah don't talk about it yeah don't try and like be too aggressive with it have the hand thing before scrolls over on the instagram yeah make sure it gets on there he looks like he's real happy let's not piss him off yeah that should be awesome that sounds like a great time down there i'm pumped for you we went down one time i've been down there once when i first got to

indianapolis because it's an easy drive it was on my birthday weekend a lot of indiana people were like hey gotta go do the derby for your birthday weekend it'll be worth it yeah i was not supposed to be down there. It was a great time. There's a howl at the moon popping off down there. No way. Two pianos? Oh, yeah. It was a blast. But I decided I can't be going to that

every single year. That's not something that I should be doing with my life if I would like to continue to be an adult. A lot of opportunity down there. What he was talking about, a lot of opportunity down there. And everybody seems to have the same. It's like St. Paddy's Day in Pittsburgh almost, but just for like three days.

Yeah, and dressed up a little bit more. Yeah, a little bit heightened. It's number one on my list right now. Yeah, everybody has the same mindset. Getting out of there, not easy. I assume it's a little different for him, but you got to walk a long way to get the fuck out of there. That is a...

It's always getting in and out is always a process yeah getting out in the state of mind that you're in it it does like i'm long days yeah i'm assuming the first 30 minutes not problem because you're just like having a good time we just did it then it gets like to a point where you're like give me the fuck drunk and miserable walking through a town okay so almost not worth it because of the walk no no definitely no. Definitely worth it. Okay. Definitely worth it. It is a very good time. You've been back? And then we went down for a little event.

We went for a Friday night event. Yeah. We didn't go to the whole thing. It is awesome, though. I forget what year it was, but Jeff Ruby was sponsoring one year. It was an unbelievable time. He's big time. I can sense he's close, too.

Yeah. That's the restaurant? Jeff Ruby's right there in Louisville, too. Oh, you got into his event? No, but he parks his bus right out front of his spot there and everything. You go to Philly's and Stallion's? No, we go to the one party that Aaron goes to every year on Friday night. The Illuminati one?

Philly's and Stallion's. No, the Barnstable deal. What are you doing? You got to get dressed up? Are we wearing suits and ties? Oh, that's considered. So, yeah, you're supposed to bring suits for everything, but that thing Friday night says black tie,

and I haven't ever really worn black tie to it. I'm wearing a bow tie to that thing? No, but you know what? All I have, I'm probably going to wear what I wore on the draft, but no tie. That's what I think I'll wear to that. Three-piece. I understand you're saying I should dress nice. This is good enough.

Yep. Relax. All right. I like what you did there. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just, yeah. I don't like wearing ties anymore.

There's just no reason. I know a guy who wore sweatpants. Amen, brother. Sweatpants and a black tie. Me too. Thanks, Joe. That's right. Let's go to the phones.

We have not seen Joe since. Nicest fucking sweatpants. Joe might have died in those sweats that we've seen. Let's go to the phones. Let's go to Jacob in We have not seen Joe since Joe might have died in those sweats that we've seen Let's go to the phones Let's go to Jacob in Ohio What's going on, Jacob? Hi Pat, how you doing? Hell yeah, Jacob

Hi, what the fuck here Lifelong AJ Hawk fan Love that But I bleed black and Steelers gold Just letting you guys know My question is for Boston Connor. He's been extra mouthy today, really disrespecting

all the guests, Shams and Rappaport. That's not true. And I don't really like his energy he's giving off. I think he needs to have a bud light and calm down. Hey, Jacob, he has been a bit mouthy, hasn't he? He's been a bit mouthy. Shams makes him uncomfortable. You're right, Jacob. Hey, look, I got mouthy. Shams makes him uncomfortable. You're right, Jacob.

Hey, look, I got mouthy with Shams because, I mean, it's a hack joke. He's running it back. First of all, Shax, he's already done it once. He's just reminding you. Of course. That was him just reminding you. You were a little chirpy, though. You've been a little mouthy, hasn't he, AJ?

A little bit, I guess, to Shams and Ian. Who asked Ian if that was him on the horse? I feel like that one weighed by the most distance. That was Pat. No, no. No? No, no. Yes, sir.

No, no. I said, how did you get your back so flat after that? No, no, no. That was Tony. That was not. I would not do that to a guest on this show. Right. Never.

How about Jim Furyk not having a clue what was going on? He had a cool hat. He enjoyed himself, though. He was dying. Dude, he had no idea. Am I still on? You still asking this question? What did they decide?

It was a bit awkward. Is this the line? Is this? Are you talking to me? Yeah. Is that a real question? Aren't you pumped, though, now that we know? Like 20 months from now, that President's Cup is going to be fucking Yeah. Is that a real question? Aren't you pumped, though, that we know like 20 months from now that President's Cup is going to be fucking awesome?

It's 14 months. Have a little respect for next June in Montreal. Oh, okay. That was next September. I don't think Jim had any idea what he was getting dropped into, but we do appreciate his time. And shout out to that President's Cup team that is yet to be announced. Going to be a bunch of dogs, though.

Hell yeah. Good PGA marketing, too. Absolutely. Anytime you can get the United States versus the world, we of dogs, though. Hell yeah. Good PGA marketing, too. Absolutely. Anytime you can get the United States versus the world, we're in. Sure. For sure. Ain't that right, AJ? Always.

I wish we were fucking beating Germany again, but still, the rest of the world will do. We can in the Ryder Cup this year. Yeah, we'll get them next year. Okay, good. This year, Germany, it feels as though, would be the move because of that title. Germany would be sweet. And they got two good games, I believe. I think the Chiefs are playing over there this year.

Das Boot out there. It should be around Oktoberfest. Oh, that's the perfect time to go. Oh, this is like the Kentucky Derby. I should probably not go over there for this. We should go to the Ryder Cup instead. No, Oktoberfest is a good time. They got people doing coke off each other's dong.

That's what I'm saying. That was my favorite internet of all time. There was a lot of that. Oktoberfest really took everything. It's on camera? I'll send it to you. I got it saved. From what I've heard, Oktoberfest is literally just a massive parking lot that they put a huge tent over. I think. And it is

bananas in there. It's like its own world. I've heard it's a great time. No, it's Munich, I believe. Oh, okay bananas in there. It's like its own world. I've heard it's a great time. No, it's Munich, I believe. Oh, okay. I believe it's Munich. Cocaine off dongs? Oh, yeah.

I mean, you're doing that this weekend. Been a little mothy today. Let's go to the phone. Come on. Let's go to Gus in Wisconsin on the 5RNG phone Is that the ultimate power move To make someone do a Coke off your dong Is that like the

Hey I'm the alpha here I haven't dove into the alpha scale On who's alpha And who there But I'm sure you'll figure it out I'll keep my eyes open To see what happens

Alright Gus What's going on in Wisconsin On the 5RNG phone line How you doing Keep it moving Hell yeah Gus AJ needs to stop doing that off the dong.

Agreed, Gus. Maybe just in general. Stop doing it. I just got a question about the Jets' future draft next year. I just have a hypothetical. What happens when inevitably they ended up taking a quarterback in

the first round after Aaron Rodgers decides to come back for one more year and they say might as well take a quarterback with what pick? first rounder what first rounder? because

they don't have one so they would bench him halfway through the season because just wasn't getting the job done so then they keep the first rounder they wouldn't have to trade that to the packers and with that first rounder after benching him or maybe he gets hurt i mean we it's football yeah but they draft his replacement in that first round and then boom we go from loving each other to potentially what happened in Green Bay overnight. Gus likes to see the world burn.

He does. Gus likes to see the world burn. That's classic Gus. All signs are pointing to them having success over there, so I don't even like to think about it. Am I overconfident here? Yeah, I guess so. AFC's tough.

I don't think so. I don't see how. No. Why not? They should have. You should be excited. We're in the old honeymoon phase, aren't we, right now with them? We are in the honeymoon phase.

Yeah. He's been in MSG three nights in a row. Yeah, I couldn't. They're giving him a room. Yeah. That's why he's got a hotel out in Jersey, and then he's also living in MSG every single evening. Not a bad place to stay.

Last phone call here on the 500 phone line before we get on out of here. Let's go to Damon in California. What's going on, Damon? What's going on, Damon? Hey, Pat. How we doing? Let in California. What's going on, Damon? Hey, Pat. How we doing? Let's keep it moving. I just wanted to ask about

what do you think the problem is with the Warriors' old guard versus that new young nucleus that's coming in where they can't just find that synergy? I feel like Jordan Poole could be a great guy to really take off some of Steph Curry's workload.

And then you got guys like Kamunga. There's a ton of other, like, young guys. What do you think's going on there? Damon, are you a fan of the Golden State Warriors? What do you think's going on over there? I don't like it. Not one bit, pal. No, I want them all to come together

and just play beautiful basketball. Hell yeah. Come together! When? Right now! Boom, boom. I don't think it's going to happen. Sounds like it's a locker room divided, Damon.

That's a shame. You know more than we do. We're kind of covering it from the outside. Are they going to be able to figure it out? Maybe they need to go and get hammered together one night. Nice. They say teams come together a lot better around a keg than they do a kale. I think that would be a great idea.

Is that what they need, though? Is that what it sounds like? I'm just learning of this potential beef literally today from Shams. Is this a real deal? And have you guys been talking about it over there in California all season? Well, I think, yeah. It's been a little bit of a split locker room. It's like the old guys, like, you know, they've already

won all these championships. These young guys haven't really won anything yet. No, it's because the young guys have gotten their ass kicked in the locker room. Well, actually. That happened. That did happen. That's what happened. I will bow down to you any day, Bear Maiden. Pleasure to talk to you, sir. Hey, Damon. Atta baby, Damon. You're a good man.

Call back anytime. I believe Damon's high, but he is a Golden State fan. And the thing about it is, Shams, whenever you talked about this old guard, new guard, that's not good to be talking about whenever you're taking on LeBron James and their team is just tighter than ever. Any sport, you don't want to hear that. What's that all about? Do we know this? Did we not follow this?

I guess we didn't. Just the Jordan Poole fight. Jordan Poole, you know, it ain't over with. It looked good until it really get good. And when shit really get in the fire, when you really get in the fire, you can really tell, like, who's willing to step in that black hole with you. Obviously, it's coming out. They arguing with each other and shit.

Hey, you don't want to get on the bus, Poole. You don't come. Anytime you need to do that, not good. Not good at all. That's not good. If you don't want to get on the bus, boy, don't come. Anytime you need to do that, not good. Not good at all. That's not good. Hey, if you don't believe in this team, get out of this locker room. It's like, alright, so there's a belief that at least some people in here do not.

That's not good. Happy we're here. And then the dreaded players only meeting is right around the corner. That's right. And that's a good time, isn't it, AJ? Those are your favorite times. You spoke first every time when those take place. Yeah, I was always. I tried to have them weekly. Hey, players only meeting again today, guys.

And then just yell at the team and stand on my high horse and tell them how, hey, I'm doing everything right. You guys are messing everything up. Did you do like a roll call? Did you go like, all right, Aaron? He'd go, present. And then you go, Murray, present. Did you do that at all those players only meetings?

Yeah, that's really like what the whole meeting was. I would call roll for 25 minutes, and then I'd say, all right, guys, thanks for coming, and then we'd leave. Now go tell the media we figured it out. Nice. All right, I like that. That's smart. Hey, you're a good leader, dude.

I think what you just heard us talk about is anytime there seems to be something abnormal with the players talking to each other, normally that means something not good is happening. Yeah. If there's a players only meeting, that means that there's some belief by people in the locker room. We are in a situation where we are not on the same page. You want that to happen?

Maybe never. But if it's going to happen early in the season, not important time. Because normally in the biggest moments, team comes together more. Because like, hey, there's a lot on the line. There's a lot of money on the line. So normally you think that teams will come together more. Yeah. Because, like, hey, there's a lot on the line. There's a lot of money on the line. Yeah. So normally you think that teams would come together more. Now it's sounding like they're tearing apart at the biggest moment when the most money is on the line and the most eyes are on them.

That's not good. That's not good news at all. And Steph's like, hey, this is legacy for me. You motherfuckers better get it together. Hey, listen, you younger generation, okay, you got one. I got five. Mm-hmm. Pass me the fucking ball.

And that's why I think it doesn't even matter. Because, like, you got one, I got five. Pass me the fucking ball. And that's why I think it doesn't even matter because they go as Steph goes. If Steph goes out there and fucking lights it on fire, they're going to win. That bucket gets bigger for him, doesn't it? Oh, yeah. He just starts throwing them up. Yesterday, early in the game, boom, turn around, look at the fan, dap up, run down, hits off the back of the rim perfectly through.

It's like he's unconscious. Only went for 27 or 28. Yeah, exactly. Only at 27. Yeah, best for him to have 30 heavily. They're down by three. Well, if they start doubling them like they were late there, you know, you're gonna need some of those, the young guard to kind of step up and get a couple buckets. Or Klay Thompson. Yeah, just give it to Klay.

Oh, speaking of Klay Thompson, the newest match has been announced. It'll be Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey versus Steph Curry and Clay Thompson. They'll be playing 12 holes at the Wynn Las Vegas in the newest match. They'll be mic'd up. Steph Curry's a player. He is. I assume Patrick Mahomes is as well.

I would have to lean in Steph Curry's favor on the golf course, but these boys will be chirping. There'll be competitive juices, and there'll be great content for sure as they do 12 holes on June 29th. The Chiefs versus the Golden State Warriors, the two new dynasties in the making, the two young superstar-filled teams of their respected leagues will battle in a 12-hole matchup.

AJ, what a time to be alive. Let's go. I don't know how good Clay is, but Steph is a scratch golfer, right? I know Patrick Mahomes is good and Kelsey is good, but I feel like Steph is a step above everybody. Filthy. Yeah, we don't know what's going to be happening, though, with Steph, especially with his team being torn apart at the seams here

at the biggest moment with his legacy on the line. By June 29th, will he be able to be over all that? Will his head be cleared for the golf match? We will find out. Steph and Clay don't give a damn about that right now. No. But Patrick and Travis can train. Yes, they can.

Hey, boys, let's start working a little bit. Let's go represent the NFL. Let's get a big-time win. Travis Kelsey came out on the New Heights pod and said, of course it was a replica of Lambeau. What are we talking about? Never do that. He did say the Lombardi luge, which was

a beautiful thing. Kelsey Jom, by all accounts, smoshing success. Smoshing success. It was not crap. Not crap at all. Machine Gun Kelly came out there at the end and blew the fucking roof off his life. MGK did? MGK tore the roof off. He's a Cleveland guy.

Rick Ross did it. I mean, fucking absolutely did it. There was a couple others that I read in the description. An absolutely great time with a spike of a replica Lombardi. Yeah. Replica. And everyone in the crowd, though, holy shit, he just spiked the fucking elbow.

Jeez. That's crap crap they must have gone nuts and what he said it's crop that you think i would even do that yep but he did look properly jock properly jock properly and the crowd was properly jocked as well for the entire lineup anywhere all right let's get the fuck out of here where did crop come from i don't know caller from iowa yeah western iowa that's crop pot i was asking about the non-GMOs and the roundup and the seeds because I know there's a big conversation happening around farms, actual, because there's regulations coming in by people

that the people that are on the fields are saying, you don't know crop. Yeah, exactly. What you were saying is impossible. And there's a little bit of a battle, and that man described it all as crop. He did. Not crop as in what's being grown. No, no, no.

Similar. Like crop. He's talking about crop. This is tough. It's pretty confusing, especially when it's a farmer. Yeah, it's pretty confusing. Stop with your crop. Yeah.

Cut the crop. Sometimes you grow the crop in the crop. Yeah, well, you need the crop to get into the crop every once in a while. Exactly. Anyways, it's a good word. Great word. Shout out to that guy. Yep.

Iowa. Doug, Ben. Dan. Dan. Dan in Iowa. Dan. Northwestern Iowa. Yep.

No, Western Iowa. Oh, okay. I remember that. Northwestern Iowa. He just said Western. He didn't specify who's Northwestern. I thought he did. I think he did say Northwestern. Yeah. I think. I may't specify who's Northwestern. I thought he did. I think he did say Northwestern.

Yeah. I think. I may be forgetting. That's a crop on me. I'm sorry. Well, it's not the S word that we were dealing with with Shams earlier. True. What was that?

He can't say that. Can't have that come out of his mouth. Not wearing that leather jacket. Sounded like he got a slap on the wrist because he said, last time I swore on this program. Yeah, exactly. We know what's wrong with it. Oh, you think maybe he just doesn't want to be that type of role model. Maybe he doesn't want to have a potty mouth. Yeah, I love Shams. I really do. Sometimes he's a with it. Oh, you think maybe he just doesn't want to be that type of role model. Maybe he doesn't want to have a potty mouth.

Yeah, I love Shams. I really do. Sometimes he's a wuss, and that's exactly what happened. Jesus. You are my fiend. I love him. Pretty charming. I led with that love because it's true.

Greedy's the same way. I mean, Gus in Wisconsin. I mean, jeez. I mean, he called Embiid Michael Jordan. Embiid's never even been to the conference finals. What are we talking about? Oh, so you got upset Michael Jordan. Embiid's never even been to the conference finals. What are we talking about? Oh, so you got upset about that because Embiid's taking on Celtics. I just think if we start, it's not even the Celtics thing,

but if we start calling everybody Jordan. He did it with Jokic two minutes later. I mean, come on. Can we have a standard here? Okay, maybe you can call Steph Jordan. Sure, that can go. But Embiid and Jokic? Really?

I agree. That's crop. What are you saying? It's crop to do that? It's crop. It's crop. What are you saying? It's crop to do that? It's crop. It's crop. I can see that. Cut the S word.

Cut the S word, okay? Cut the fucking crop while you're at it. Amen, brother. I'm sick of all the crop. There's so many different buckets of crop right now. Too much crop in the world. I'm sick of it. Let's get out of here because I can't take it anymore.

That's hockeyockey Talk. We'll be live. Hey, Ruppers! Hey, boy, Rupps! Ruppers! Live from the Thunderdome tonight. That's Hockey Talk. 8 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. It should be a great episode because the NHL playoffs are electrifying and Nick, Gumpy, and Ruppers will be

breaking it all down. What are you guys going to be talking about tonight? Anything good? Well, Pat, I don't know. It's absolute crap. My writers are on strike. I got nothing to fucking go off of. Thank you. As we go out, thank you for reminding me. We thought about, you know, having to suspend the show because the writers strike.

And us and everybody else in sports said, do you have that small of brains that you can't do a show if you don't have a slew of writers around you? You can't just create something? That's crop. This was very surprising to me. The shows that they said were going to be done because writers aren't available?

I'm like, what? SNL, I get. That makes sense. The late night guys are hiring themselves, right? What I'm saying is, late night guys like you are, that's why you're The late night guys are hiring themselves, right? Well, what I'm saying is late night guys like you are. That's why you're a late night guy. That's another conversation, the whole late night. All of that stuff. Yeah, but that's a part of it.

Like, hey. Absolutely. That's a thing of the past, all of that, I feel like. Dude, I used to love late night. Man, I fucked up. Did you hear what they said about the Corden show, though? Oh, yeah. They were losing millions of dollars.

They said it cost $60 million to produce that show yearly. $60 million? That's because they shut down that street to do the fucking full thing. Carpool karaoke. Yeah, there it is. See, I think James is a talented guy. I think he's created good ideas. $60 million a year?

$60. And now people are hearing that he's kind of a prick to people and people are sick and tired of him. Allegedly, allegedly, allegedly. Allegedly. Yeah, allegedly. But a lot of people are calling him a fat English pizza crop. People are sick of him.

You two are scumbags. Let's get out of here. All right. It's been a hell of a day. Congrats to all the winners that got announced throughout today. A lot of money out there. $20 million here, not $60 million. That's not the article I read.

Still crap. He was losing $20. Yeah, bingo. Yeah, it was losing. So it was $40 million to do it. Bring it in $40, costing $60. Bingo. Negative $20.

Okay, so costing $60. That is still the story. That's a lot of money. That is still the storyline in this one. Yeah. Yeah. Why? I really, and I got nothing but respect for talented writers and brains. Absolutely.

Okay, nothing but respect for the creatives. If you feel like you need more money going, go get it. Now, you've agreed to a lot of these deals for a long time that you're saying wasn't giving you home. So, like, a lot of people will think, like, well well why didn't you guys just handle your business differently some of you weren't able to okay because of everything that happened good luck get your money i hope if somebody's making money you guys should make money because writers are a very talented thing but some of these shows saying we can't operate anymore because we don't got writers i'm like that's crop that's crop it's gonna be tough to take you serious going forward.

Just want to let you know that. But unless they're just standing, maybe, is it unity? Or is it actual ability? I think that's a big part of this. Supporting them. Do they say it's unity? Because. Could be.

Don't you dare cross that fucking picket line. Yeah, but it's also because they couldn't, you know. That's the big question. Right. That was with Jimmy Fallon. You'll never know. What's that, unity? Yeah.

Fallon's a talent to though, that fucking guy. For sure. And he's a guy, like, he probably wrote a bunch of his own skits on SNL, you know, so he probably does side with the writers. Good luck out there, all of you. Go get it. But also, let's not fuck up, you know. We got some stuff.

Yeah, come on. A lot of money to be made in this era right now with streaming. Let's not go ahead and let's get a deal done. Get a deal done. Somebody go get a deal done in there. I think that was the big reason why they're striking. The streaming rights are being sold to a lot of the shows

and the writers are getting the crap for it. And they're afraid of AI. Well, I think we all should be. AI will do a better show than this show. Probably next week. We agree. Probably next week. We're probably done next week. We might be. What if that is the actual thing that happens?

Remember when we were talking about COVID, we heard it was in Italy? Yeah. Shut it down like Italy shutting down. Jeez Louise, come on. What are we doing? What the hell is that? And then we got a letter. We saw somebody's Facebook post.

It went viral. We were just like you two and a half months ago. We thought that we would never be able to be stopped, and COVID would come and go like everything else. We have been shut down for three weeks, not being able to see our family, not being able to go outside at all. They're doing this.

It's coming to you, and we're like, grazie, but prego. Pipe down. We don't need this right now. And they were right. Yes, they were. They were 100%, 100% right. I remember what Foxy said.

Two weeks. We'll be fine, boys. That's what we were told. Who said that? That happened at one point. It did? When? I don't remember.

Two weeks? Yeah, to slow the curve. Yeah, come on. Two weeks. After being inside for a couple months? No. No. Two weeks would slow the curve.

That was the start. I don't even remember that. I just remember sports were over, and then we'll see what happens. No, remember we need to slow the curve for two weeks. Sports were postponed. Like Magic, March Madness, it wasn't canceled, remember? Yeah. Because they didn't know how long it was going to be.

Because we'd halt the curve or slow down. What was it? Stop the spread. Stop the spread, I agree. But the curve. Yeah, that's what it was. It was the curve. Slow the curve. Flatten? Flatten the curve. There the spread, I agree. But the curve. That's what it was. It was the curve. Slow the curve.

Flatten. Flatten the curve. There it is. Flatten the curve or whatever. And we just need everybody to not look at each other, not see each other. Two weeks. Flatten this curve and everything will be good. That was a long time, bro.

Yeah. Two weeks turned into six months. That was the summer. Well, then it was two years too long. How many various people? What's this? This is flattening the curve. March 11,? What's this? This is flattened. March 11, 2020.

Oh, it's like projections of what happens. What would happen? Wow. Oh, from Michigan Medicine. Okay. Yeah. I don't see a denominator. Do you?

I'll tell you what. I will say this. Well, that was a question asked very early and then just had to kind of. That one lady from BU got buried. Nowhere from a Steelers football legend. In a Joe Satterwood commercial. Mr. Hoagie was in the draft room making picks. I seen him.

I seen him. He's back in there. I mean, he's the stats guy. You can tell, right? He's actually a stats guy, which is kind of what he was saying. Analytics are big in football right now. We'll be back tomorrow. What a wild time to be alive through this entire era.

We'll be talking about this forever. Our kids, a couple weeks away from me. Here we go. Sir. Just bananas. I can't wait. We'll talk about this or ask about this maybe 20 years from now. It's going to be tough to explain.

Yeah. What'd you do? Nothing. Where'd you go? I won't believe it. What do you mean? Yeah, we just house arrest everybody. Whole place.

Ate cheeseburgers. What if you had a smaller house, had a lot of people? Yeah. Locked in. Don't go outside. Probably hate your family now. Boom. What about school?

Did you guys do that? Yeah, on Zoom. Did it work? Nah, we kicked off the whole time. I don't know. Kids don't know how to deal with it. People were jerking their gurgling on it, actually, by accident. But we lost a lot of people.

We lost a lot of people because of it. It was a real motherfucker. It really was. And then we figured it out, hopefully. Yeah. How to live with it. Even though it's going to be around forever. That's right.

And with that being said, get your fucking ass out there and kick some balls. What are you asking me this question for? There you go. It's irrelevant. That's what I'm saying to my daughter. AJ, have a good one, brother. I appreciate the hell out of you. Talks to the table. Great work today. Tone, fantastic job. Pac-Man, great to see you. Looks so cool.

That's Hockey Talk tonight. 8 o'clock live from the Thunderdome. Can't wait for it. Big shout out to Ruppert. Big shout out to Shams and Rappaport. And you guys for being so incredibly cool for allowing us to do this. We announced a bunch of winners. We'll probably do some more giveaways tomorrow with old Pac-Man Jones leaving for the week. You are the greatest humans on Earth.

Tell each other something nice. Goodbye!