The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 898 - Pat's Baby Girl Is Officially Here! Dana White, Pacman Jones LIVE In The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: May 4, 2023

On today’s show, AJ Hawk, Pacman Jones, and the boys fill in as Pat and his wife Sam’s baby has officially arrived. Pat calls into the show from the hospital to chat about the experience, fatherhood, and much more. The guys also discuss everything happening around the NFL as we are entering a little bit of a dead period, but chat about the coaching cycle in the NFL and why older DC’s are at such a disadvantage for Head Coaching jobs. Later, President of the UFC, Dana White joins the progrum to preview this weekend’s UFC 288 card, what else he’s got going on, his doctor’s regimen and his overall health, and much more (1:50:53-2:09:29). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’re off tomorrow, we’ll see on Monday. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, welcome Friday, May 4th. I am not Pat Maxby, obviously. I'm A.J. Hawk coming from an attic in Ohio. Pat had some great news happen early this morning, boys. Congrats! Oh, look at that. We actually hit it. We timed it up. Everything, man, this is beautiful. So, for people that don't know, this isn't a normal looking show, obviously. Right now, I am in my attic in Ohio. My name is A.J. Hawk. I'm sitting in for the great Pat McAfee. Guys, Connor, why don't you announce what was the great news that we just learned of recently?

Thank you for this honor, A.J. Very nice of you. We did just hear about, I don't know, 20, 30 minutes ago, Pat has successfully had his baby. Everyone is doing well. It's awesome news. Congrats, Pat and Sam. Congrats, Pat and Sam. Congrats. Yes. And that is why A. Congrats. It's awesome news. Congrats, Pat and Sam. Congrats. Congrats, Pat and Sam.

Congrats. Yes. And that is why AJ Fox is here. Yes, that is why I got called in here. I'm trying to man the ship here from Ohio. You guys, obviously, we're all going to do this thing together. This is a fun day, obviously. Let's go.

I know Pac-Man, you are still here, obviously, with us, right? Yes, sir. I'm here. Pac-Man Jones, I appreciate you being at the Toxic Table. Obviously, we know boys, Con Man Pac-Man. Pac-Man Jones, I appreciate you being at the Toxic Table. Obviously, we know boys, Con Man, Ty Schmidt, Tone Diggs won half of the Hammerdown. Cowboys over there.

Everyone behind the glass. Ebi, Zito, Nick, Dirty, everybody. I hate to miss anybody. I see you back there, Dirty. Don't forget Bill. Who's back there? Bill. Bill. Bill gets his own time. Bill gets his own time because we all know we don't want to get on bill's bad side obviously bill i think you're a changed man i don't think

i think that's in the past but we all know what you're capable of we respect your power and your passion bill but boys how about this did you guys expect sam to go to labor this early no no i did definitely not no pat texted us this morning to let us know that he wasn't going to be in here today. And, I mean, shit, AJ, you know, anytime you go into – I didn't expect him to have the baby so quickly. Sometimes it's a process. Sometimes it's not. So, yeah, it's crazy, but it's awesome.

Glad to hear that they're both – baby and Sam are both happy and healthy. Yeah, I'm glad for her and for him that it happened because I know people – I don't know what your guys' experience are like. I've talked to people who, okay, they went into labor, the water broke, whatever, and then they go to the hospital and they labor for 16 or 18 hours trying to push the kid out. Obviously, Sam didn't have that situation. So that's a good thing for both of them, I think. Now the real stuff happens, though, right, Ty? I know you guys, you have young kids.

Tone, you have young kids. Pac, yours are a little bit older now. But when you have that baby, then all of a sudden you're in the hospital. A couple days later, they say, all right, get the hell out of here. You got to go figure it out and take that kid home and try to take care of it on your own. How was that for you guys? You get a couple days in there, and you have to wake and feed them every two hours. And then for me, after the first night, I was like, all right, yeah, we'll leave it a bit.

Let the baby sleep in the room. We'll take care of the baby. Night two, we, as much as we could, sent the baby to the nursery so that the nurses could watch the baby while we slept for a few hours. And then after that, yeah, you're on your own. So it's quite a whirlwind. Mine was three weeks early, so I was definitely not prepared. I was super hungover,

actually, the day that my wife's water broke when we went in. So we started off on a bang, but it's awesome. The whole process the whole process is awesome everything's awesome actually mine was a little different um i was in fucking training camp and marvin was like hey come here like fuck he called me for like midday like go pack your stuff get ready i'm like get ready like you cutting me like no tissues and labor and at the time um i think she was 22 weeks, which was really, really early. But Trent, everything worked out. Trent stayed in the hospital, I think, for like six or seven months.

So mine was a little different. But, like, it's always good when you can plan and have it, like, a week early or be prepared, I would say, for what's going on. It seemed like Sam and Pat was very prepared. Oh, yeah. He's had his go back for a couple weeks. He's been ready. It's awesome news.

It's unbelievable. Don't you think whatever – I know for the guys that actually have kids, and if people are upset, we're talking about kids for a few minutes, get over it. Suck a fat one. We're okay. Pat just had a big deal. It's a big deal in the

world and we have a new member to our family here so we are very excited for all of that but i think no matter what you do to prepare if you try to like take those classes put little diapers on baby dolls and everything it doesn't matter like you can't really until you're there and it's your kid and that that thing like depends on you for everything i mean that's you just kind of snap into it you have to figure it out because that's what you are. You're the adult in the room now. Yeah, I told Pat yesterday, which was kind of fitting

because maybe he expected it to come in the next couple days, but I was still thinking, oh, he's probably got two weeks here. But I got a bunch of books and stuff. I think Tony did too, and I didn't read any of them because I was just thinking, well, if I get overprepared and then none of the stuff actually shakes out like the way the book is telling you to do it then i'm gonna just like have a complete meltdown the only thing i did was like watch like uh cpr classes and like stuff to do like if the baby's like choking and like the positions you're supposed to put them in sweep the throat you got a hook that you like sweep the

throat get the food out of the throat exactly yep put them in. Sweep the throat. You got to hook the – you got to sweep the throat, get the food out of the throat. Exactly, yep. Put them in the face down and like palm of your hand kind of and do some efficient back strikes. But, yeah, outside of that, I really don't think there is anything you can do to prepare. No, they're all different. You guys would know having multiple kids, like it's probably a little bit easier like the second time or the third time you have kids but

i i don't think there is any way you can prepare for having your first kid no i totally agree but the good thing is when the big kids get older fuck they can watch them uh-huh yeah and they like it too packed i don't know about your kids but my kids love having that responsibility if we let one of our older two okay mom and dad are gonna go to dinner or something right around the corner you're on this is. This is your responsibility. Make sure that your little brothers take a shower and lay down or whatever. And that's when my kids thrive. That's when they behave the best, when they can be in charge and be the boss and yell

and kick and do whatever they want to the little brothers. But we're not there, actually. You have your older kids. You feel. You have your older kids kick your younger kids? They don't kick them, but they like to be very stern. And they really thrive in that role of,

hey, I'm in charge. You have to listen to me now because mom and dad aren't here. They're just doing like Oklahoma drills in your living room and then whoever loses, it's like, all right,

go hit the showers and get in bed. Axel, light up! I mean, yeah, you're not that far off. Yeah, they do love to wrestle. They like to roughhouse, but you know,

we got to let them get dirty, eat a little dirt, eat some food out of the trash, get their immune system up from a young at young age you cannot shelter them you cannot make them grow up into a bubble because they will eventually be exposed to everything i think yeah and that's ohio i don't know if you should be you know pounding the drum let them eat trash and dirt but i think i know no no i'm just you know what i'm saying you got to let them get a little dirty you can't sit there and protect every single thing they do people that have

multiple kids they usually say oh my first, I was so on top of everything. I was a helicopter parent, blah, blah, blah. And then by the time they had their third or fourth, they're like, that kid raised themselves, pretty much. I was the youngest, too, so yeah. I probably raised myself a little bit as well, being the youngest of three boys. Absolutely. Good to know you got all of your parenting advice from Scotty Small's

mom in Sandlot, too, because that's basically verbatim what she tells him when he first moves to, you know, Benny the Jet's neighborhood. His stepdad is Dennis Leary, right? Dennis Leary. Wouldn't throw with him. Did he ever come around? Did Dennis Leary ever come

around and, like, enjoy that kid? Yeah, towards the end, when he went to Mr. Myrtles and got him the entire 1918 Yankees signed baseball to replace the Babe Ruth one, obviously. But, I mean, shit, his kid didn't know how to throw a baseball when he first got there. That's not a kid you're trying to hang out with if you're a diehard Yankee fan.

AJ, what advice would you have to all the newer fathers out there? What a good question, Tone. I would say don't listen to unsolicited advice from people that try to give you advice about parenting and you can you should definitely be curious and ask you hey how do you handle this how do you do it right now you have a lot of people i am no i'm trying to ask you guys what you do but i'm saying what has worked for me doesn't mean it's going to work for other people but it's like like having a kid is like a lot of other things where people want to reach out even though they they mean well they just like to tell you everything you're doing

wrong and hey i don't know no one's doing it right we're all trying to figure it out everybody that's a parent you're trying to do whatever you can try to hug them tell them you love them and put them in the best situation possible that's all you can do so how do you like tell on that same topic how do you tell like your in-laws to like shut the fuck up and stop you know trying to do too much have you run into that problem or no i'm very lucky my in-laws help a lot we need their help and they have been helpful but no um no it's all like generational too to where i don't know i think people more now like people love to be helicopter parents let their let their don't let their kids out of the site and not let them really get into the black community they do not i have never had no one call me and say hey man

i think you should do this that nine times out of ten to come get your fucking child where are you um or are you bringing them some tea but i've never had hey buddy you know, you just look hard on Junie today. I think you should step it back a little bit. Like, I think that's amazing that you have people that care to tell you, hey, I think you should do this. Well, yeah, I wouldn't say they call and go out of the way, but it's definitely people think they have all the answers.

And they'll go, this is what you should be doing. And they'll phrase it in the way of a question. They're not going to tell you how to do it. They'll say, oh, do you do it that way? Your kid used an iPad. Your kid knows what an iPad is. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah, apparently you're not supposed to let your kid have screen time until they're two.

My baby sits in front of the TV and watches all the sports. Mine too. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, there's no right or wrong way. That's the thing. That's the cool thing about parenting. Figure it out. Kids are born also with their personality, I feel like.

Their personality is set when they come out of the womb, man. You can do whatever you can to try to help them along the way, but all my four kids, they're very different in how they react and respond to things, and I didn't do anything for that. It's just how they were from the jump. Exactly. Look at Dahmer.

He came out a murderer. But his dad, he and his dad were scooping roadkill up and doing autopsies. Oh, that's right. That's just science. So don't do that parenting-wise, you're saying. Probably not. I wouldn't. I don't mean I wouldn't. I'm not saying, like I said before, Carmen, I'm not giving anybody unsolicited advice.

Whatever works for you. So you don't let your kids in the tunnels underneath your property to see the experiments that you guys are doing? Yeah, I've never been to Lexi's. I did make a mistake, honestly. So the house I live in, I built this house, and I did not put in your fucking hands. Don't leave that out. Don't leave that out with your bare fucking hands. My father-in-law built it with his bare hands, but at the time,

when I was in Green Bay, the majority of it, maybe that's why I didn't do this, but I wanted to put in multiple underground tunnels, underground bunkers, all of that stuff. I don't have anything. I have none of that right now. It's too late to go back and do it now. Sure. So you don't have a fallout shelter?

No. I wish I did. You sure about that right now. It's too late to go back and do it now. Sure. So you don't have like a fallout shelter? No. I wish I did. You sure about that? Yeah, I am, man. I've thought about it. I've thought about getting an excavator and going out there and digging my own or maybe just a shovel. Maybe my kids help me do this. Use your face. Haven't done it. Burrow your chin into your backyard.

Bite the dirt. But hey, guys, we don't have a big show ahead of us today right oh yeah congrats pat yeah congrats pat and sam come back to it dealing with a lot at the hospital right now that's awesome so cool that it already happened i was not prepared for them to have this kid already i feel like we had like oh you know what we had another week or two you know one thing i forgot to talk about the 700 nurses that will be in their room in the next three days, and they all teach you different stuff and all have different opinions on how to do things. So that's awesome too.

Yeah, you're right. The doctor referring to the child instead of by name just as baby, I think is probably one of the funniest things I've ever heard in my life. The best? Do they give you a name? Don't they write the name on a little board if you have a name for it? They do. Some doctors will still just refer to your child as baby. Do they give you a name? Don't they write the name on a little board if you have a name for it? Yeah. Some doctors will still just refer to your child as baby.

When baby poops, make sure you use insert whatever the hell they say. Oh, okay. Well, they don't want to get the name wrong probably. We're going to stay back. When baby poop, you better make sure you have that pacifier that's got the, you know the pacifier they give the babies that's got like a little taste on it yeah that's probably the best advice to give somebody because if you give them the regular pacifier i learned that my baby's crying fucking all night we try to go in and be fancy gear like you know one of them nice pacifiers instead of taking the green one they

got like the takes i guess for the baby from the hospital yeah? Yeah. Yeah, those are the good ones. What does it taste like? Like mint? Or like goo? Well, I don't know. Whiskey, actually. Yeah, wiggy. I figured they have on the thing like a car freshener. They don't have that? They don't tell you what kind of flavor you're getting? No, they don't. I don't think baby's

taste buds are very developed when they just come out. Really? I don't think it's like, you want bubble gum or you want strawberry? What do you think? So it's just good tasting. Maybe we can bring you one. You taste it finally. I was going to say, yeah, I absolutely will.

I'll bring you one. Yeah, it might take me back. I mean, Nick Cage just said that he remembers when he was a baby. Who? Nick Cage. Really? Yeah, I didn't expect to remember that. In his 60 Minutes interview, that was awesome, by the way,

in his house in Las Vegas with a weird bird. Yeah, he was like, to remember that. In his 60 Minutes interview, that was awesome, by the way, in his house in Las Vegas with a weird bird. Yeah, he was like, I remember sometimes when I was a little baby seeing faces in dark rooms. I might have been inside my mother's stomach still. I don't know, but I remember that as a child. Yeah, he actually said that. You know what? I have to believe him.

If Nicolas Cage, I've watched that dude talk a few times. I've seen him act. Con Air is one of my favorite movies. Not his favorite, but definitely one of them. I believe him. If he says it, I have to believe it, right? Yeah, of course. What are you talking about?

He's an Academy Award winning actor. I mean, he knows. He sets the limit. He said that himself. Yeah, you've seen National Treasure. Benjamin fucking Gates. Yeah, exactly. He found the treasure on the back of the Declaration of Independence.

He's not just some schlub. I have not seen that movie that he did. Is that any good? You've got to see it, AJ. AJ. Even Foxy. Even Foxy. It's one of the greatest films of all time.

Yeah. I mean, you have to be. You're sarcastic there, Foxy. You can't be real. No, it's a piece of U.S. history at this point. It is so good. You have to see it. Yeah, and us telling you you have to watch it definitely is going to lead you to watching this bingo i might cancel the show and actually go watch it i'm so excited now

that you guys told me i have to watch it just wait until you see the clue good i didn't think so nah what the hell you never know with you guys though because you guys how you talk about movies you never know if you're serious or not because this you could be gaslighting this thing and you really don't like no no it's no, no. It's unbelievable. So is the second one. They're both just I mean, honestly, there should be a third one. They're thinking about making it and for whatever reason, Nick Cage just

I think he knew how good the first two were and he was like, we can't desecrate the franchise. You've heard what I've said about Black Adam. I'm being completely honest with National Treasure. I would put it in my top ten movies all time. Easy. Wow.

Wow. You know who? Somebody who I'm not sure has seen that movie, but we got to see some footage walking into a facility today was Lamar Jackson. Hell yeah. See that? He looks sweet. How cool did he look?

First off, the Ravens facility, too, looks very nice. I thought he was walking into a nice house. That's actually their facility they work out in, huh? Yeah. The facility wasn't the problem. Remember, it's the strength coach that's telling them to do all these fucked up shit and drills when they're already injured. But yeah, look at this

hair. I mean, are you kidding me? Nice chain. I love it. Is he doing a presser today? I would assume so. Yeah, probably. Gotta be. That is sweet. Look at his pants, man. He looks sweet. That's not the normal facility yeah as I said it looks like a golf clubhouse

well that's an Under Armour they built that whole situation for him didn't they in Baltimore oh really I didn't know that is that where his base out of Under Armour yeah that's where it started Kevin Plank started played in Maryland and all that stuff so yeah it's like a full they're entrenched in all Under Armour but I know their GM Eric

DaCosta there's a cool little video going on. I know we could get it pulled up here shortly probably. But Eric DaCosta, their GM, basically, guys, he admitted – sounds like he's kind of admitting like, yeah, you know what? I didn't do a good enough job getting Lamar enough weapons. I didn't surround him with the talent needed to try to make him reach his potential fast enough, I guess. And I thought it was – I don't know what you guys think of it,

but I thought it was pretty cool. And, Evie, if he has it, we can pot it on up there. Here we go. Let's see. Is this the video or do you just want me to read this situation? Video. Got the video. Let's see it.

You mentioned about OBJ. And then how's it going to affect, you know, Lamar as a passer? You know, how's he going to play? We want to maximize Lamar's ability. I've probably done a poor job of doing that over the last couple of years in some ways. I'm not having more receivers around him. And we love the guys we have, but, you know,

in terms of building the best possible offense, that's a factor too. So, you know, every situation has residual values associated. Every player that you bring in is different and they affect things differently. Leadership, ability, community, whatever that might be, long-term. And we see OBJ as a big part of that whole thing. Pac, what do you think of this? Do you like this?

Do you like him coming out and basically admitting, like, yeah, I need to do a better job? Well, he should have came out with this before the contract sheet. I think, yeah, now you can come out and say this shit, now that you have paid him. He's probably worried about leverage, though, right? You think he's worried about leverage if he said this before the contract shit. I think, yeah, now you can come out and say this shit now that you have paid him. He's probably worried about leverage, though, right? You think he's worried about leverage if he said this before? Right, but what I'm saying is, like, now you come out and say,

oh, we got OBJ. You got to worry about how Lamar going to play with OBJ. You need more than OBJ. You're looking at the roster. You got Rasheed, Batman, Zay Flowers. Like, you need to go get some fucking guys, bro. You got one guy. And if we was to go play Baltimore tomorrow,

we would double fucking OBJ and let somebody else beat us. And that's what's going on right now. Of course we know what Lamar can do, man. He's one of the best that's playing right now at that position. But I think this is a get-out-of-jail-free card for the fucking GM just in case they don't win 10 games. I'm trying to understand the angle for him because Bateman was a first-round pick. Hollywood Brown was a first-round pick.

Zay Flowers is now a first-round pick. Yeah, they didn't work out. Hollywood got traded. Bateman's been hurt. So it's like they tried. And the guys that they brought in in free agency, it was like a 100 year old sammy walkins yep and those types robertson yes and those types so um no they he hasn't done like maybe he's tried but they haven't worked out which does fall on the gm but that's also him being like in a good organization with the ravens

because if you're a gm in a shitty organization you say thats. Because if you're a GM in a shitty organization and you say that, you're basically putting yourself on the chopping block, correct? Yeah, that's a good point. I guess he's smart. He knows now. I guess, Packy, you have an interesting view of it. Yeah, it's like, all right, I'm going to admit to some possible mistakes I made leading up to this, but ultimately I figured it out.

I got it done. Lamar is here. He's signed. He's in the building. Yeah, it feels like the veteran aspect of it. He hasn't signed any established guys until now. Mark Andrews is homegrown and Odell is kind of the first guy they've signed that isn't like Sammy Watkins or someone

that could be on the back half of their career versus Odell who is coming off one of his best runs with the Rams at the end. But, I mean, you mentioned Zay Flowers, and AJ, you can probably speak to this too. Like, if you are a first-round pick, is the team, no matter what, the guys in the Ravens locker room, are they expecting, like, hey, Zay Flowers is going to be a guy who's going to catch 100 passes, have 1,000 yards, have eight touchdowns.

Like, he's going to have an immediate impact. Because, like, as a Patriots fan, and me and Pacman were talking about this earlier, the Patriots secondary is supposed to be very good. But that is completely dependent upon the first-round pick, Christian Gonzalez, coming in and just being a stud right away. Is the expectation inside Baltimore, especially for the guys that are on the team, not so much the front office because he's the first-round pick, so obviously they're expecting Zay Flowers to play well.

For the vets and the players in that building, are they like, yeah, we're going to be just fine. We have Odell, and Zay Flowers is definitely going to be a great player. Well, they definitely hope. They expect him to come in and be a starter from the jump, and I'm sure they're telling him like, hey, man, I don't know if you're looking around, but there's a lot of great opportunity for you out in front of us.

There's not a ton. If you look, like Pac said, if someone's playing Baltimoreimore right now they're probably going to double obj and then make other people beat you and you're going to tell zay flowers hey bro you're going to get a lot of balls you have a chance you have a great opportunity ahead of you so you make sure you're doing everything you can because there's some places where you may be a first round pick but there may be some studs in front of you some vets that you're going to have to split time with or try to work to get in there say flowers can hit the ground running day one, be a starter in camp, and they're going to look at him like three games into the season and say, hey, bro, you're not a rookie anymore.

You have a great opportunity in front of you. You need to go out there and make some plays right away. Yeah. If anybody in Zay Flowers' camp that have a little bit of a football sense, this is a great situation for them. With Lamar, if you don't put eight in the box, you're fucked. If you play Odell and don't put two on him, you're fucked. So Zay is going to get the one-on-ones 90% of the game.

Yeah. You get what I'm saying? Yeah. So if he can show up, he don't have to be what a chase was, you know, but he got to be consistent. We need you to catch the ball when you need to catch the ball, and we need you to get open. But it's going to be very interesting to see how

the defensive teams line up with the additions that they got. The thing with the Ravens this year, too, like, you don't know what the offense is going to be either, because Monken's coming from Georgia. Also, do we know if AP's on the team? No.

I believe he's trying to figure out how to play or pay. Antonio Brown? Yeah, he's trying to figure out how to pay his guys in the football team that he bought. Yeah. I would like to. If Antonio wants to come on a program and try to clear things up or let us know exactly what's going on in his whole situation,

he can do anything. He's welcome on here sometime, guys? Yeah. Would you welcome him to come explain stuff? So what is exactly going on with AB? He owned an arena team. Can you guys let me know exactly what happened? Yeah, I believe it was just he owned an arena team,

and then a couple of the players came out and basically said, like, hey, we haven't been getting paid. And then a couple guys said, like, yeah, you would have to expect this. And AB basically shot back and, back and called one guy a fatso and said he didn't know shit about anything. He was, allegedly. He was allegedly a fatso. We don't know yet.

But, I mean, anytime anything happens with AB, it seems like bad stuff kind of follows him. So it seemed like this was kind of just... Is this a Pittsburgh team? I don't think it was the Pittsburgh team. No, it was like Vermont. The team his dad used to play for. It was New York, right?

But it turns out maybe his dad didn't even play for that team. Nope. That team was... How much did he buy them? How much did it cost to buy the team? I think like $45 and a couple of Happy Meals. The team won the last two league championships. Okay.

Now they've lost two coaches. Now they've lost what? Have they lost two head coaches or just one? Well, I think AB's the head coach now. Yeah, AB's the head coach now. I believe he is. He should play. Get out there.

Go score some touchdowns. Maybe he might be on the Ravens now because he did. That's to your original point. To Zito's original point, he may be on the Ravens now because he did tweet out the uh picture in the ravens uniform i don't know where he would have got that picture from if he wasn't on the ravens right now so yeah nobody on the internet can could put that together can they ai i mean it looks pretty good yeah i might did it chat chat g g bt gpt what is it you got a p in-T. That thing's doing more and more by the day. Look at this. So this is not Photoshopped, is it?

No. He looks like it. I zoomed in on the edges. It does not look Photoshopped at all. So back to your original question, though. To Pac and AJ. How do you play Lamar and this team, especially not knowing how they're going to run their offense? Me, personally, I'm packing the box with Lamar. Make him beat us.

Make him beat you throw down the field. Beat us over the top. Yeah. I'm not going to let him beat us with his feet. And I'm going to see if Odell can handle the load of carrying the load for a whole season. I think if you go back to the original quote from Eric DaCosta, if you want to play devil's advocate in defense of him,

in years past they maybe could have done something for Lamar to get him a top market receiver. But if you look at this year's free agent receiver class, Odell was hurt, but he kind of was the bell of the ball. He was the prize possession. I don't know if they sign alan lazard if people are really saying like oh look what you guys are doing for odell you know what i mean like it just so like i i do think like yeah the timing of it is kind of weird and obviously you know it's a lot

easier saying that when you've got the contract done but also like at this point moving forward do you think is there any bad blood from lamar and the Ravens, or is that all just put to rest when he signs that new contract? I think it's all put to rest. He seemed very happy with his tweets now, walking into whatever facility that was. But, man, once you get that deal done, you know, it's going to be a whole lot of flock. You heard what he said on IG. It's going to be a whole lot of flocking for the next five years. You smell me?

So I think he's happy. I don't see no reason why he wouldn't be happy. Well, and to Ty's point, too, like the free agent market is down. It feels like no one's going to let go of a good wide receiver anymore. Like they're either going to get paid or it's going to be like a Tyreek Hill, Devontae Adams. Give up a bunch of picks for him. Yeah, you're going to trade him and you're going to get a lot back.

That's why like Zay Flowers, if he is good. I mean, Lamar just signed a five-year deal. Zay Flowers on a rookie contract with a fifth-year option because he's a first-round pick. Like that could be a tandem. And now Baltimore is like a destination. It used to not be like that, obviously, because there was all this like, where the hell is Lamar going?

Now for five years they have Lamar in free agent, you know, wide receivers. Whether DeHop gets there, you know, if he ends up being a free agent down the road that's a spot immediately you would assume that he would want to play and i mean really anybody but who knows how many guys are going to get to free agency now as wide receivers especially those top tier guys well and we always talk about hey if you could draft a quarterback you have that window while he's on his rookie contract where you could kind of build the team around him but also now it's almost like that with receivers if you can draft a receiver and get him in his

rookie contract because these guys get paid so much damn money once they become superstars that you might not be able to hold on to them so also yeah you get you get one or two young receivers that have a bunch of production early in their career that gives you a huge benefit i feel like but you got to like manage that that window before you have to start paying all these guys. That's what the whole balance of the NFL is, I guess. The Bengals is a good example of that. We're having T. Higgins that's finna be up. You know, being the third round, I think we're second or third round pick.

He's up. No more tagging, none of that right now. So it's eager to see what they're going to do. Do we have enough money to pay T. Higgins? I pray to God that we do. We got to pay Joe Burrow right now. But I think if you have a crafty GM, you can keep everything. Look what the Eagles just did.

They signed Hurts to what now the second biggest money deal in the history of the NFL. And they just keep adding guys. And granted, everyone's saying they crushed the draft, but they lost, what, one or two big pieces? But outside of that, they're basically bringing back the exact same team they had that went to the Super Bowl last year. Yeah, it feels like why wouldn't teams – our whole thing was, yes, either have a really, really good old quarterback

who's making money or have a good rookie quarterback who you can fill around him. But it feels like now, like in the last year or so, I don't think it matters at all anymore. The way that they structured Jalen Hurts' contract, I think they're fine for years to come. The way that Mahomes' contract happened. And now I assume once that happens, other GMs, I'm interested to see how they structured Lam home's contract happened like yeah like and now i assume once that happens other

gms i'm interested to see how they structured lamar's contract but like with burrow and and with herbert like why wouldn't you just structure it similar to how they did with jalen so that it doesn't fucking kill you at all i also don't know if it was this way in the past with like the way like all the new money is going up and up and up but like good gms now like you can they can almost like plan out what the salary cap is going to be in like the next few years. You know, like I don't remember. And maybe it's just because we didn't really talk about it previously, but like they can actually see like, Oh shit. Like, you know, we'll,

we'll be fine five years from now because we know how much money's coming into the league. Yeah. Do they have these like, dude, front offices have like mit type dudes like just straight numbers guys coming in they're trying to help them project the cap and put all that stuff together yeah mike greenberg down in uh tampa oh boys i don't know if i'm gonna be the numbers guy in any of these places but i will tell you what i'm a fucking pump dad right yeah hey aj thank you for manning the ship here pac-man i wish i was in there to see you boys

i miss you this morning has been bananas what these women do crazy nuts well we were talking about it like through the pregnancy process where like her lungs were getting shoved up into her rib cage and like her bladder was like in a completely different spot than where humans normally have bladders and then like everything else is just kind of fitting in there for a human to be inside it's like a little alien growing inside of a human sure and like the discomfort that she has had to go through all these women go through to have baby it's like what an experience to get a chance to watch how badass of a woman your wife is like that is

that has been then this morning holy shit i mean it is hey is. Hey, hey. You guys get woken up in the middle of the night? All of a sudden, you're in it. So she, yeah, 2.50 a.m., her water breaks. So I'm still sleeping. I'm snoozing. And at like 3.27, I get like a tap on the shoulder, and wake up and she goes, uh, I think my water broke. I'm like, are you serious? And she's like, yeah, we were a couple of weeks out here. Yeah. So this is, this is, she's baby, very healthy mama, very healthy. But we still had

a couple of weeks to prepare here you know i mean i still had some things i had to do ty literally just yesterday i heard you leave the show told me about some videos i need to watch i haven't watched it yet yeah it's it's crazy but i mean you'll be fine because now now you don't have a choice it's hey you're in it so you you know it's it's me yeah exactly it's real hey she Hey, she's got a lot of hair. Oh, wow. Yeah. Look at all that hair.

Good job, Sam. Congrats. Yeah, Sam, you kicked ass, dude. She kicked so much ass. So three-thirtieths, I'm made aware of the situation. Get up. And what am I going to do? I don't know.

What the hell am I? You know? Drive. She's like, I think my water broke i think my water broke i'm like googling what does it mean to have your water like i have no i've no i either pissed myself or my water broke it's literally and i'm like maybe she did i don't know the body's crazy thing yeah i might have been true you might be laying in my piss i mean i don't know what i you know what i mean so we took a little bit she ran a couple tests she changed her underwear to get a different color because like the color of the liquid i guess for the water break is a big deal yep so like what so we had to figure it all out it's our first time getting the stage you

know we lost two babies, you know, in consecutive years. So like, this is a day that we've been waiting for, for like 30 months or so. And then when the day arrives out of nowhere, 3am, it's like, I should have prepared more. Oh my God. And then I get our, uh, to go bag and I pack up the car and she was just a G dude. Sam was just an absolute G through this whole thing. There was like two moments of full freak out, I think from her.

But other than that, it was like, here we go. We get in here. Her doctor was ready. Her doctor says, all right, here we go. She had a C-section. So like, um, watching that, you know, you're not, you're in a full operation, right? Yeah.

Yeah. I'm sitting there. So they put me out and like, she goes into the operating room. I'm sitting outside the operating room and there's a bunch of commotion going in there, you know, and they're all trying to keep it super upbeat and they have to give her a

shot and they have to do some other stuff before they get in there. Soon as they open the door, I'm like yelling like, Hey, you're a badass. Don't ever forget it. You know, like just as they open the door, I'm like yelling like, hey, you're a badass. Don't ever forget it. You know, like just trying to like motivate because I'm like literally sitting in a corner or whatever.

So then I go into the room and they sit me down next to her head with like a, there's like a sheet being used right here. And then we're talking two and a half, three minutes later that we're wide open right down yonder. And I'm looking at the inside of my wife. I'm like, oh, I'm not going to look down there. And then five minutes later, baby pops out, head pops out. And I'm like just looking.

I start crying. I start getting like real. I'm like, that's our baby right there. So then Sam's going through some pain here at this point. So now I'm back to coaching, you know, like, hey, we have a baby. You made an angel. You made an absolute angel. And then they take the baby to the side, cries for the first time,

and I think that's when Sam, like, really. And then Sam got back. Yeah, it was really, it's been amazing. She's even one time, she's a guzzler. She downs. I mean, jeez. We had to get a new fucking nipple. What is that?

A new nipple because the other nipple just wasn't. We need to down the hatch a little quicker. You need a heavier flow nipple. Yeah, quicker. The quicker one. Oh! So I had to learn how to swaddle today. That was fun.

That's not easy. Get a Velcro. Get a Velcro on as soon as you get out. Yeah. Yeah. I think Sam, as this lady was trying to teach me how to do this, Sam was like whispering to me like,

Hey, we got the cheat code one at the house. Don't worry about it. Yeah. Smart. Smart. But just being cool, man.

Huh? Do you clean it? Do you give her a little bath at all? Yeah. I think that happens later. That'll be sweet. Yeah. I remember my first one was born my daughter and they're like, here, do you want to give her a little bath at all yeah i think it happens later that'll be sweet yeah i remember my first one was born my daughter and they're like here do you want to give her a little bath and she was so tiny i was like scared we have some video of it my big mangled fingers trying to like wipe her down and she wasn't really crying so it was good actually she seemed to like it like that was that's when it set in for me like yeah here we

go i got a kid do you get the uh do you get the skin to skin in oh yeah so as soon as we get back to the room um the nurses were there it's called the golden hour i guess whenever you can you know it's like a big deal i guess is what people talk about i don't once again if we had two more weeks to do some more research i would have known that but i did not know this was the case so sam went skin to skin for like a good 15 20 and that was a cool moment you know like watching her entire like sam sam's gonna be the best mom of all time she's an absolute badass so watching that moment happen was really cool that was another emotional moment for me you know i'm over here just leaking from my face and then then i take i pop my off. I put her on my chest

and I'm trying to look at her and my neck gets a cramp from while holding her. It's been amazing. I just want to say thank you to everybody for showing us so much love. Big thanks to the doctors here at this hospital, the nurses at this hospital,

and all of you guys for being awesome. My wife is a fucking g and uh now it's a whole new world for us i guess man that's awesome that's that's so cool i don't know how do you have any idea what your next step is like how long you're you're gonna be in the hospital and all that so i'm i think it's a few days we gotta do another uh foods coming here soon so hey buckle up boys buckle up buckle up boys we're trying uh we're gonna try the new nip here in a couple minutes and fast i assume sam will be able to figure it out but my issue is like at some point sam's gonna fall asleep oh yeah yeah

you got it showtime well it sounds like from what you said too the chug has been passed down i mean that's that's great news i'm a little bit worried i mean let's not get too far ahead of ourselves for when she's like teenager and college or everything like that but yeah i mean she made this little thing dis a fucking pier whenever they were in front of her and then we got uh we got the binky and i heard pac-man talking about the flavored binky and Tish actually told Sam that at the wedding a couple weeks ago. Tish was like, hey, this is what you need. You need the flavored one. So we appreciate

the Pac family for that whole thing. But we got the binky a little bit later. She put that thing in her... This thing's like a movie. It's going out of her mouth in her mouth. It's like a fucking character. You need to relax.

But I think the baby's a guzzler. I think the baby's a guzzler. That's good news. Fully healthy. Mama kicks so much ass. There's a little bit of recovery, I think, for the C-section or whatever, but she's already fighting through it all.

Wait till you see the color of that first poop, too. Oh, yeah. I have changed the diaper. Okay. I didn't touch it, though. The nurse changed it right in front of me. Nice. Smart.

You got to watch up close. For the world, what did you name your baby girl, Pat? I'm going to let Sam do that one, Pat. You know, that ain't me. That is not me. You guys had it, it though did you guys have it all picked out um yeah it was it was pretty close you know we were down there and a couple different times i thought we had a name and i said it publicly and then i was told like what are you doing all right so so now is not the time to do that. I'm going to lay low for a bit. But I wanted to...

Oh, she just had a hiccup. It's so cute. Like everything she does, I'm like, this thing's the cutest thing of all time. She'll start sleeping and then she just makes random noises. She's just like... She'll be farting too. They'll fart a lot too when they're young. A lot of hiccups, a lot of burps.

Speaking of farting, the room we're in, kind of small, a toilet right there. Okay? No. Take the pinky ring off? What'd you do? I went into somebody, like, there's an empty room down the hall. Smart. You thought it was empty.

Some dead guy in the corner. No, but somebody did knock. Somebody did knock. What'd you say? No, I'm in here. Somebody got to say, whoa, whoa whoa that's what i said while i was destroying i mean i was absolutely slaughtering that toilet and uh i thought there was nobody like we're in a pretty good area and it wasn't planned so we kind of lucked out here that there

were some rooms open for us nobody is in our area here okay we're in a good area so i figured all right i'm good down in this room. I think I'm not massive grumpy here. Of course. I don't have to have my baby smelling that for the first couple hours in life. I go in there, all of a sudden, I'm log two, halfway through, and we're talking full bang, bang, bang, bang on the door. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

So I thought something happened. Turns out this is where all the employees come and take grumpy yeah so all these toilets kind of get used were they waiting were they waiting when you came out i actually saw going into another room so like smart i don't know if this room that we're in was used before i got in here but I do think a lot of the employees are shitting all over this place. All right, I got to feed the baby. I got to figure this whole thing out. I think I'll learn how to swaddle before we get out of here in a couple days,

but we shall see. And I appreciate the hell out of everybody for being so kind to us. I obviously appreciate my wife for being a badass, and our baby girl is going to be awesome. You guys, hell of a show. I've been watching. We've been watching right here at Bedside. Right here. Hell yeah.

It's a show. It's live. Kids like, and your baby's like an hour old, two hours old. That's nuts, man. Yeah, this is a good influence for the bed. That's right. Hey, welcome to the Thunderdome. Yeah. Welcome. Welcome, Baby McAfee.

They all call it Baby McAfee when they come in, all the nurses? So we did the whole don't put our name anywhere. Smart. There you go. That's smart. Yeah, Kardashians. I heard Dahmer mentioned earlier earlier i don't think he's putting his name anywhere either no i didn't bring him up i did not bring him up that was me

i heard dig say that you should use your face to shovel that was a funny line big pop out of the big pop out of the whole room there good with use your face. But all right. I appreciate you guys so much, man. Have an incredible program. Awesome, man. Thank you. Appreciate it.

Sam, congrats. Awesome work. Congrats, guys. Congrats, guys. Congrats. Killing it. Good job, man. Keep it up.

Keep up the good work. Hell yeah. That's awesome. All right. We appreciate you guys. This is a day we'll remember forever. Absolutely. We will.

May 4th, 2023. A lot of May the 4th will be with you in the congratulatory tweets. I've never seen a movie. I don't think Sam has either. But, hell yeah, we appreciate that 4th. We do. We appreciate all the 4ths that you can send us. Positive 4ths are always good for everything.

Amen. I love you all. Appreciate you all. Goodbye. Congrats, buddy. Enjoy. Thanks, man. Amen. I love you all. Appreciate you all. Goodbye. Congrats, buddy. Enjoy. Thanks, man. Congrats.

It's awesome. I didn't know you'd be able to call in like that. That's amazing, man. Sam killed it. Obviously, she's still like C-section is full-blown surgery. Oh, yeah. That's nuts. Hour or two later, sitting there, and she seems to be doing well.

Good spirits, joking around and everything. That was awesome. I definitely did not expect that. They're looking incredible. Took me back. Took me back for sure. Absolutely. You guys going to pop out some more?

Ty and Diggs, you guys on your way? You bet. That's the plan. Oh, Ty's shooting big old loads, huh? Is that what you're saying? Oh, yeah. Swimmers. My nuts are so heavy right now.

That's like 12. Oh, my God. Especially now, AJ, ours are getting to the age where, like, they're actually – you can see their personalities, and they're – like, every single day they're just getting better. So, yeah, you obviously automatically want another. But then everyone tells you, you know, it's like, hey, if the first one's awesome and seems perfect,

like the second one's probably going to be a little shit. So it kind of makes you, you know, pop the brakes a little bit. But, no, I mean, yeah, why not? How old do they, when they get to the age where they can say things? Not even full sentences, just words. A year, maybe? Yeah, probably a year. I think it's the same deal, though.

I think it differs for a lot of, you know, some babies start talking early, some babies start talking really late nick said he didn't talk till he was five years old that's sweet whoa it was like two and a half but yeah some kids breastfeed till they're like nine that's what you did we're like 15 i did not do that but maybe i should have maybe i'd have been like seven feet tall if i did kids are like slapping the boob like hey fucking yeah like open up yeah wake up drop those suckers out mom i was in bahamas baseball i was in bahamas one time and the kid come out the pool and go straight over there and start sucking the mom's teeth this is no bullshit and i look at my

wife like this fucking kid is walking around and he's going out here to suck his mom's titty? I don't know if it's different for... You say like, hey, I got an extra. I looked at her. I'm under two. And she was just like, yeah. Oh, my goodness. She's proud. Oh, my God.

That's nuts. You guys ever hear of a wet nurse? What do you do when you see somebody? You can't say shit. No. Kid walking around, one-year-old diving in the pool, coming back, sucking your titty. That's crazy. I've heard of one.

What is it, though? I don't know what it is. Wet nurse, I don't know if it happens anymore, but back in the day, people, the mom wouldn't breastfeed, but somebody else that didn't have a kid somehow produced breast milk would feed their kid. Oh, Mitt had one of those. That's right.

Are you serious? Yeah, he had a milkman. Yeah, I was, well, uh-huh. Okay. If you don't have a kid how do you produce milk i think they had a kid at one time and they just never stopped breastfeeding because i saw people who can donate their breast milk and that's what they do they just never stop seeing that he's constantly pumped direct that people donate to cows what do you mean they don't have have kids. They keep chugging milk. I guess that's true, Conman. That's a good point.

It's nature. Versus nurture. It's just whatever nature calls for. You think so? I think that's exactly how it works. I have the most kids in this room. Conman, do you think you'll have kids someday? I don't know. I need to grow up a lot. No, you don't. You're fine. You could have a kid right now.

You look how many people. Absolutely not. So many people have kids. Absolutely not. I think you're mature enough. I think at some point I'll get there. In 5, 10, 15 years down the road, I'll get there at some point. Con, it'd be so fun.

You could sit there, give your little kid a pair of binocs. You could sit out there and watch all the homeless people out your window from your apartment. Talk about, hey, can you imagine a little Con Junior? If we went down there, we would just mop up all those people. That would be easy, but I still enjoy things like playing video games and not having to listen to anybody. You know what I mean? Sure. Just kind of doing your own thing.

I live on my own time at the moment, and it's very nice. But yeah, 5, 10, 15 years. I got some time still though. Okay, good. I respect that. You know who's feeling their voice right now? Trevor Lawrence, guys. I know it's a great pivot.

Oh, yeah. But Trevor Lawrence, why? Okay, he's pissed off at what? Kyle Brandt? Is that who he's mad about? I think good morning was like football as a whole, not even specifically Kyle Brandt because he was on the video, but I think it's everyone in there.

Do we have a video of this? We can pull it up. Yeah, we can pull it up. No, you don't need to, but what happened? There's seven tiers of AFC QBs and Trevor Lawrence is not high enough on this list or what is it? Definitely not. He is sixth on the list.

You can fill in the rest on the top. Sixth quarterback? No, he's sixth tier with Matt Jones, Tua Tagovailoa, and Kenny Pickett. What's the top tier? I think it's Rodgers or Mahomes.

Wait, there's six tiers and Trevor Lawrence on the sixth tier? Seven tiers. And yeah, he's the sixth. Yeah, there it is. Oh, here we go. Was it Mahomes? He's down there with Tua. Yeah, Mack and Pickett.

The top. Kenny's criminally low. The top two. I mean, Rodgers is on the third tier, it looks like. Yeah. Burrow and Josh Allen. Well, Rodgers has never won a game in the AFC, so that's weird. Yeah, Lamar, Herbert, Rodgers. Russell Wilson's in the fourth tier.

He's in tier four. Yeah, rushing it. That guy's never won a game in the AFC either, and he's been there for a year. And Deshaun. They put Jimmy G at five also. He's only won a couple games. Oh, yeah. He should be mad about this. Definitely. He should definitely fucking be mad. I like that he's actually saying

something on Twitter, though, don't you think? At least he's like, of course he's quietly pissed, but I'm glad that he's at least like, because Trevor Lawrence to us seems like, at least to me, like just such a good dude, quiet guy, goes about his business. I think he should step out there and make his opinion known sometime. Ever since he went to that fucking Waffle House,

he's been a different man, and I fucking respect that. Yeah, absolutely. Also, just like, you know, everyone just acts like it never happened, but, like, can you imagine if Doug Peterson would have been his head coach his rookie year, and then after last year, like, he probably, I mean. Remember what happened? Yeah, you remember. You're a guy. Remember what happened? Yeah, you remember. You're a guy.

Remember, AJ? What happened? What do you mean? His rookie year? What happened? When you were on the boat with that guy, that same guy who became the head coach. Stinky Finky's a legend. Not many people know about that boat interview he did.

People don't forget. Urban Meyer was his head coach his first year. And Urban did not make it. Urban made it, what, 10 weeks? How long did he do that? 12, maybe? I forget, honestly. They rallied behind.

They passed the bye week, barely. Yeah, it was a tough start for him. Beat the Dolphins in London? That's right. Who the fuck made this list? It said Kyle Brandt's AFC quarterbacks on there. Yeah. Did he just want to get people talking?

Is that what it feels like? Yeah. Or maybe he believes it. I don't know. Yeah, I'm not sure. I never know with a list like this. Because, shit, Trevor Lawrence threw from 4,100 yards, eight interceptions. That's pretty good.

Fucking your boy from Russell Wilson, he might have had fucking 1,000 yards this year. Yeah, I think it might have to do with the first playoff game. I think he's probably looking at – I mean, granted, I do not agree with him whatsoever, but as far as justifying him to play in Devil's Advocate, Trevor Lawrence threw four picks in the first round, and then the Chargers just kind of blew it. But I do think Trevor Lawrence is unbelievable,

especially we were just talking about free agent wide receivers. He wasn't a free agent, but Calvin Ridley is probably the best receiver being added to any team. Will you pop that up real quick? Because I feel like personally, I'd rather have Trevor Lawrence than Russell Wilson. I know he was in tier four. For sure. Deshaun was

the other one. Yeah, definitely rather have him than Jimmy G. Yes, for sure. Yeah, I mean, probably what? Fourth? Probably be up there? That would be if they are. Rogers, Herbert, and I would put him in tier four instead of Russ. Yeah, absolutely. I would move Russ down to six.

Seven. I mean, Herbert doesn't have... The guy's got a playoff win. Herbert doesn't. You know, you could argue that he should be in tier three, too. True. I mean, until Russ proves to us that he is somewhat of the Russ of old,

yeah, I don't know how you put it. Russ, is he three or four? He's in four. You could kind of tell the year before, like his last year in Seattle, it was starting to not be great. Now a lot of people are blaming the O-line and stuff like that. I mean, they were trying to get rid of him because everyone knew his last year in Seattle would be his last year in Seattle.

They were trying to get rid of him because everyone knew his last year in Seattle would be his last year in Seattle. They were trying to get rid of him in the offseason prior. He did wear his jersey to the camp. Which was cool. That was awesome. Good marketing. That sweet truck. I do assume also that Sean Payton is going to make him

levels better. You would think so. Levels better. How much better though? How much better can he make him is my question. Maybe one tier better. You would think so. Levels better. How much better though? How much better can he make him is my question. Maybe one tier three better. Two tiers better perhaps. I mean it's a very their division sucks. Game ain't played on paper. Amen brother.

That's what Trevor Lawrence is saying. Me and Trevor Lawrence right? I mean also Trevor Lawrence has made the Jags relevant again. Oh yeah. Legit. They are a team and they will be for the foreseeable future. I don't know if we're taking the Jags relevant again. Oh, yeah. Legit, take them serious. They are a team, and they will be for a foreseeable future. I don't know if we're taking the Jags that serious yet, AJ. More than we have, though, pass. Sorry-ass fucking comfort.

Well, we think they're going to win their division. They are the best team in their division by a wide margin for the next five years. I don't agree. Who do you think? For the next five years. I don't agree. Who do you think?

Right now, on paper, I think that the Texans are a better team. Yeah. Really? Say it. I do. I'm not sold into the Trevor Lawrence thing. Yeah, should he be up on the list? Yeah, he should be.

But I wouldn't say they're just solely going to win the fucking division. Who's Stroud throwing it to? They drafted. Tank Dale. Tank Dale and Xavier Hutchinson. Two fucking stud wide receivers. But, yeah, that's a good question. Yeah.

Nico, what's his name? Nico Collins. Nico Collins, sure. Who is on that? They picked up Doss. Nope. Dalton. Dalton Schultz. There you go.

Dalton Schultz. Yeah, sure. None of these receivers in that division, like who is the number one in that division? I mean, Christian Kirk had 1,000 yards. Yeah, Calvin Ridley, last time he played had 1,400 yards. Last time. Calvin Ridley had fucking played in the West.

A year. He got suspended all of a sudden. We don't know how he's going to play. But he's proven in the NFL. I mean, he's more proven in the NFLfl than any other guy same with christian kirk i'm just saying that that conference have no really standout guy division six yeah yeah so we're division in football should we drop trevor don't you think he's the best quarterback in that division by by far then he got two rookies you got tannahill who you know we yesterday we're not even funny. Should we drop Trevor Lawrence a tear though because he said

it's not decided on paper. That was clearly not on paper. That was clearly on TV. Yeah, it did. Kind of drop a few IQ points for sure. Whatever his cognitive score is. S2? With a C2 score?

Yep. C2 score definitely goes down at least five points. So, by the way, since the... Can't wait for this. No, no, no. Since the Texans took C.J. Stroud number two overall, does that mean that no one gives a fuck about the S2?

That's a good question. That guy... The Texans don't. Well, that guy came on here and said that wasn't the correct score that was released. True, but then Stroud said, I'm not a fucking taker but he also said that you know we had a guy take it after a 12-hour work day who was tired who didn't want to do it had to do it at a hotel he didn't name the guy's name but it was clearly cj stroud he was talking about and it was on paper paper don't work no more did you hear that from staples yeah i have no staples yeah people don't work no more yeah staples went out of business.

Damn, you went belly up. Thunder Mifflin. Are they closed? Yeah. You can still find Staples here and there. Bed Bath & Beyond went under too, didn't it? Yeah, they're dead. Which is surprising.

I mean, where are you going to get your fucking home goods? I bought 10 pillows the other day. At Bed Bath & Beyond? For a buck each. Yeah, they were really cheap. They still have blenders and stuff? I didn't even check. I went right to the pillow aisle. I love pillows.

Amen, brother. Wait, how many pillows do you have on your bed? Oh, you don't want to know. That's too many pillows. I have a good 10 to 12 pillows. Do you throw them on the floor before you sleep? I just put them around myself, get a little comfy. Zeke sleeps on pillows. He's got his bed, and then he has all his pillows.

Really? It's like a double-decker bus. Do you put a sheet over top of your pillows so they stay in place? That's when we do a fort. Hell yeah. I can see Zeke building a fort for bed every single night. Why not? I wouldn't.

The secret. I mean, what a fan. If you bought 10 pillows. A fan. A fan, Zeke. Cool that shit down. Underneath the sheet or? No, in the fort. Hell yeah. A fan? A fan, Zeed. Cool that shit down. Underneath the sheet or No, in the fort. Oh, yeah.

How big is this fort, Zeed? Twenty pillows big. Zeed actually bought Shaq's bed. You remember the one that was like a circle? Yeah, it's 15 feet wide and 12 feet deep. Huge Superman logo in the middle. Chris Angel should have elevated Shaq over, levitated Shaq

over his house in that bed. That would have been awesome. That would have been a game changer. Without legs. Well, guys, we're going to take a quick five and just let you know, but we do have a great show coming up. Second hour, we got General Bobby Carpenter coming up in the next hour. The final hour, we have the third hour

we'll have Dana White of the UFC ahead of UFC 288 going on. I don't know about the big surprises. I don't either. Let's just say there might be some sort of American hero potentially here today. What? Escape hero?

Potentially. Maybe. Or maybe he'll show up right behind you and put you in a sleeper hold. See ya. Oh, no. Now I'm worried. I got to relock my door. Needles on your butt. Locking your door is not going to do anything, no. Now I'm worried. I got to re-lock my door. Poor needle side of your butt. Locking your door is not going to do anything, pal.

Michael Malone, the American escape hero, can't jingle your lock. Michael Griffin. Yeah, he got out of that. Michael Griffin. Michael Malone. But, guys, during the break, I saw a little tweet from Dylan Brooks' agent. Someone's pissed off. One of our Shams is an absolute friend of the program, comes on the show all the time.

And right here, Mike George. So this is the agent for Dylan Brooks, correct? Correct. That is the report. So he tweets, The leader, Shams Rani, is the leader of spreading false news and attacking players. Why any player in the league talks to this guy blows my mind. This is the weirdest part.

Hashtag weirdo. I don't know about hashtag weirdo. That part right there, Shams might take a little bit of offense to that, but what's this about? Are people saying Shams just made this up? What's going on? Allegedly, they're saying that Shams, the under any circumstances portion of the Grizzlies conversation is complete bullshit.

Now, he didn't say that the Grizzlies and Dylan Brooks were done, I think is the important part here. I believe that is still true. But the under any circumstances part, which is what a lot of people were like, Jesus, the Grizzlies really kind of told Dylan Brooks to go fuck himself, is what he is kind of refuting. And you said, Shams, Jesus, the Grizzlies really kind of told Dylan Brooks to go fuck himself is what he is kind of refuting. And you said

Sean's friend of the program. He is an AT&T guy and I'm Verizon 3. I don't know. Maybe that's why. Connor was super mouthy with him yesterday. I was pissed off about that. Maybe that's why Dylan Brooks' agent says weirdo because he's using AT&T and not Verizon because that's a weirdo move. But

I don't know. I still think Sean's isn't just, you know, he's not just shooting bullshit stories. I don't think that the story. No, he doesn't seem like that type of guy. He just isn't. He is an absolute dog when it comes to being an insider. I mean, he was breaking news about the NFL draft, but it does seem. This is not worth Shams' time at all either. Yeah, exactly.

Why is it worth the action time? Shouldn't he be worrying about Mr. Brooks talking to the team? You know what this is. This is a fire with fire situation. This is where the report came out, and it was most likely someone in the Grizzlies organization who said that to Sean's, and he put it out. And the only way to make his client not look like an asshole

is to say that it's not true. And call Shams a hashtag weirdo, which I am probably going to use. AJ is probably going to use. It's not the last time you're going to hear hashtag weirdo. I can tell you that. Yeah, we're going to have to ask Shams, too. Like, hey, are you a weirdo? Yeah, hashtag weirdo.

People are saying you're a hashtag weirdo. Thank you. He does eat something with a fork. Yeah, he ate oatmeal with a fork, which is kind of a weirdo. And cereal, but who cares? And he loves lunch more than anyone ever. He loves lunch more than anyone ever. He won't do it, but this is a perfect opportunity for Shams to fire back.

Strike back. Strike back hard and fierce and really put an end to this thing. But I think we all know that. How can he, though? How can he? He's not going to give up his that. How can he, though? How can he? He's not going to give up his source. Why would he need to give up his source? Just be like, you know what? You're a shitty agent, and this guy sucks.

How's that for a hashtag weirdo? Good luck signing with anybody, bitch. Like, if he dropped one of those, would you imagine? Hashtag bitch. Yeah. Hashtag bitch. You think he's going to do that when he was scared to say the S word? He didn't want to say that.

Well, it would be a prototypical heel turn out of Shams. Him off camera, he does that shit all the time. Yeah, and Shams might just be fed up with it. Shams might be like, okay, you know what? He don't seem like the type of guy. No, but he could. He could say it. You know what?

You can call me an idiot. You can say that I'm full of shit. Weirdo crosses the line, motherfucker. I am coming at you with everything I fucking got. Hashtag bitch. I hope. I really hope this happens, guys. I hope this little brainstorm happens.

That's not going to happen, AJ. Sean's so nice, man. That's not going to happen. I don't know. Weirdo would send me over the edge. You can call me damn near everything, but weirdo is kind of where I draw the line. We should get an AI to hack fucking Sean's phone and put out this tweet. Sean's phone is unhackable. out this tweet. Shams is an AI.

Yeah, it's unhackable. Call the AI. Yeah, call him. No, you got the number, boss. All right, all right. You got the number, con man? I'll text that. I'll text that.

I got AI's number. I got AI's number. I'll text him right now and see if this is bullshit. Allen Iverson? No, Allen. I don't know what's with him. There's probably not a gender to AI, is there? No, no.

It could be, you know. 1-0-1-0-1-0? to him. There's probably not a gender to AI, is there? No. It could be... Yeah, I will not assume, of course, because I'm not a fucking uncultured swine. Oh, it's non-binary. True. That would be binary. But Jarvis kind of seemed to have a...

Who? Hey, Pepper Potts. Jarvis from Iron Man. Jarvis was built that way, though. Go on, Tony. Jarvis, Hot Rod Red. Foxy, born that way, asshole. Yep, well said. Sure.

Also, I don't think it matters because I don't know how everyone else in the league, but it seems like the last few weeks everyone has basically been saying, like, hey, Dylan Brooks is a fucking clown. Like, no one likes or respects this guy unless you're maybe on his team. But even – Do they like him? Remember that, Ty? We asked that. Brooks is a fucking clown. No one likes or respects this guy unless you're maybe on his team. Do they like him? Remember that, Ty? We asked that a week or two ago.

Do the other players on his team like him? I haven't seen one. We know Jai don't. We know that for a fact. But nobody has came out and said anything like, Hey, man, Dylan Brooks is a great fucking teammate, regardless of what it seemed like. Boom, not one fucking person. Yeah, no one has said that. But like you do wonder in turn and like for shams like if this

was a different guy who a lot of guys do respect and then an agent saying something like this and then other players who maybe do talk to shams or like their representation who do they might you know take a second be like well is shams a hashtago? Do I need to stop talking to this guy? So that's why I think Shams needs to fight fire with fire here. And yeah, exactly. Just put an end to this thing. I agree. But we did remember we talked about it when this came out.

Man, isn't that weird to say under any circumstances we will not be back. The team has no reason to say that. They can just say, hey man, you can go explore your options because right here it's just not a good fit right now. You can say that, but to say that. They can just say, hey, man, you can go explore your options because right here it's just not a good fit right now. You can say that, but to say under any circumstances is weird. Basketball is way different, AJ.

The superstar on the team, if he say, hey, look, this guy right here, I don't want his ass on the team or I'm going to ask for a trade or whatever it may be, you can pull that in basketball. We can't do that shit in football. You're right. It's all the stars do that shit in football. You're right. It's all the stars. They mark it. It's the stars.

You're right. I always wondered that. How do these guys, how do they even coach some of these guys? Because the players are so powerful. The superstars, they run the league, which isn't what they should. But yeah, they have so much power. They realize that's why we've seen the NBA change so much recently. Because like, hey, man, I'm good.

I don't want to be here anymore. I'm good enough to say that. I'm going somewhere else basically. Yeah, the teammates not doing it is a massive deal. But, like, I don't think anyone thinks that Dylan Brooks, like there's a lot of talk, and granted there are jokes, but people are saying, like, Dylan Brooks is going to play for the Shanghai Sharks over in China.

Like that's not the case. He's going to be for the Shanghai Sharks over in China. That's not the case. He's going to be on another NBA team. But any thoughts of the extension that he was pitched earlier in the year that they turned down, which I think was like four years, 80 million. These last three weeks feel like have completed. Should have said yes. Yeah, exactly. It kind of ruined him.

He'll get paid somewhere, though. He will. He'll get paid somewhere. Will he? Will he get that, though? Will he get that kind of contract somewhere else? I don't know. Four for 80. What kind of player is he? Honestly, he

came up on my radar later than most people. Is he normally a scorer? What's he normally doing? He's a defensive guy. He's like a Burfik. Oh, okay. Well, I'll tell you what, but perfect perfect was a font has to make 20 tackles though yeah that's what i'm saying this guy is going to make a lot of

production on the defense side of the ball man if you ask him to score 12 or more points yeah that's not what he's there for well the thing with them brooks too it feels like he was leaning into being the heel right like he said i poked bearsoked bears, which I don't know if anybody – Then he didn't talk to the media afterwards. I struggle with that because you talk and talk and talk, and then when you duck the media not once but a couple times, I understand wanting to duck the media. I understand you don't want to do it.

But when you kind of put yourself out there, I feel like you kind of have to answer those questions. And Broad never scored 40. Like, realistically, he could have got back on there like, what? Still haven't scored 40 on me, bitch. I mean, I said I poke bears and I only respect him until they score 40. Maybe he was worried he was going to fight the media.

Like, AJ, wasn't that you in the corner of the locker room the one time when you were sitting down with your towel on and you tried fighting that reporter, potentially? Oh, yeah, and then after that sack, he flipped off all the media members. That's who he was telling to go fuck themselves. Well, no, and then after that sack, he flipped off all the media members. That's who he is. Tell him to go fuck themselves.

Well, no, but Pac-Man, I think, I don't know if you remember this, Pac. You were... Smile on Pac's face. Pac was getting interviewed after an away game somewhere. I was in the bank. It was my favorite. And for some reason, they did a live interview in the locker room with Pac shortly after the game.

And in the background, I think Andrew Whitworth, his little cakes were on air. They got his butt cheeks on camera. And guys were changing stuff. And I'm like, how do you go live from the locker room? I remember Whit was pissed, I think. You remember that, Pac? Yeah, I do. Did you know at the moment that there was naked dudes behind you on camera?

I didn't know at the moment. But it was like that. And they actually aired the shit, but it was like that. And they actually aired the shit on TV. Yeah, that's wild. Which cheeks were on fucking TV? I think Whitworth was. And I talked to – Eifert came out.

I remember talking to Eifert afterwards. Eifert's like, man, if I would have known that, I would have put a towel up top and walked his dong out all over the place on that thing. Well, was that the week before or after you did the sit-and-gum trick to all the reporters when they were at your locker? I can't remember. The reporters. Can you imagine? You could put in jail if you did that.

No, I would not. No, because you were just doing locker room stuff in the locker room. They just happened to be in there. Is that how it works? I think so. I'm good then. Locker room prank. That's what I thought.

Did you explain what the bubble gum trick is, Ty, to someone that might not know? Yeah, classic sitting gum trick is where you just kind of, like maybe after you've taken a shower, so your nutsack has a little more elasticity because of the hot water. Yeah, exactly, hanging a tiny bit. And you go down, and right when you sit down, you go, oh, shit, sat in gum. And then you kind of just pinch a piece of your nutsack and stick it to your leg and

bring it out like you sat in a big pile of Bubblicious or something. Yeah, kind of like when Johnny Knoxville did the bad grandpa bit and he had one of his nuts hanging out of his shorts. Exactly. AJ and I were actually talking about this last week and he's like, Ty always says that he's wrong. I was more of a bat wing guy. Oh, sure, sure.

Yeah. I need to know what that one is. Same thing, you know, testicles, and you just fucking pull it as wide as you can. It looks like a bat wing. See, when we were out at the Super Bowl, AJ told me he was a big goat guy. He said, I always do a goat. That's how I get people.

Goat and cheeseburger. You guys are sick. I don't know what any of these are told me he was a big goat guy. He said, I always do goat. That's how I get people. Goat and cheeseburger. You guys are sick. I don't know what any of these are. What the hell is cheeseburger? What the hell is going on right now? You've never seen a cheeseburger? Man, you guys in locker rooms didn't live. What the hell is a goat?

I have no clue. Tell you what, our locker room did not do, though, what those pictures that you sent me yesterday of Oktoberfest, what they were doing. Should we call Bobby and ask him? Somebody did send me pictures. I actually haven't clicked on the videos to see you guys doing coke off of other dudes' dongs.

Is that what it is in the videos you sent me? Apparently, people do fake cocaine in Oktoberfest. I did not know this until I had the show yesterday. Because how can you tell if it's real or fake? So then everybody's doing blow, and you don't know which ones are actually doing blow. Yeah, there's some kind fake so then everybody's doing blow and you don't know which ones are actually doing yeah there's some kind of like fake cocaine that's that's legal that um people are like going crazy for over there and i think that is part of the reason is like hey this is the this is the legal stuff you can't now granted i'm sniffing it off this guy's dong so maybe you

know it's an exposure but you can't get me for doing coke because it's illegal stuff. But is it illegal to be snorting even a legal substance off the shaft of another person? You tell me. I think anything goes at Oktoberfest. You tell me, Connor. I mean, you're going to be at the Derby this weekend, so you tell me. I told you I have my eyes peeled. If I see that, I'll snap a few pics and send them right to you guys. Please do.

How many cigars are you taking? Oh, I have multiple bags, two or three Ziplocs full. I had to get – you know, that's kind of what I – that's why I bring you the table, cigars for everybody. I want to make sure I have enough for myself. Are you wearing a full white suit? No. Will there be a point where you take the kids to the Kentucky Derby,

or does this feel like kind of a you and Lady Hawk thing going forward? No, this is just a dudes thing right now for this one. Really? A couple years ago, it was a girls thing, but yeah, this one is just dudes right now. No, I don't know if my kids will ever make it to the Derby. Do you know what you're going to say to Sauce Gardner and Garrett Wilson, because you said you were nervous

to meet them? I don't know if they're going. Are they going to be there? I don't know. We'll see. I assume so. Come on. I don't know if they're going. Are they going to be there? I don't know. We'll see. I assume so. New best friend. Come on. I'm not sure. I'm not sure exactly if they are. I don't know if I'm going to be around them. I would love to meet those dudes.

Is Mangold going to be there? Big fan. That's not what I'm saying. Nick was just in Germany with all of his kids, man. That's a hell of a flight to take your kids on. Yeah, you just said you can't wait to meet them. The other day, you were pretty pissed that Sauce was going to the Knicks game with Rodgers. Oh, I see what you're trying to do.

Come on, Aaron. I would have flown in and gone to the game. That's exactly what you said. Do they just keep those seats open for them? Yeah. Who would have used them if Aaron and Sauce didn't use those two next to Turtle? Billy Gardell. You're right. That's true.

Woody Allen. Woody Allen Woody Allen Jerry Seinfeld Jerry likes the Mets He does like the Mets Yeah, that was a basketball game Yeah, Knicks play basketball Yeah, I know, I don't think Jerry's a Knicks guy though

What? To be honest, in all the episodes I don't know if he did I think you might be right I am I've only seen a few episodes of Seinfeld But I just hear him talking about the Mets. I don't think he likes basketball too much.

Leno might have been there. Jay? No, Leno was. He was handing donuts. Yeah, he was handing donuts to the writers that were picketed. So this writer's strike means, so there are shows that were in production. I'm not talking like late night shows.

Let's say there was a show that they were filming in production. Do those all shut down right now? I believe so, yes. Some of them that have the scripts finished, like Game of Thrones, they are continuing to film and finish the season. Game of Thrones is still going on? Yeah, that new Targaryen. House of the Dragon.

Oh, wow. Z, will you let me know when old Bob's potted up? We have him on right now. Oh, okay. Here we go, guys. Obviously, we've all been waiting for this. Friend of the program, friend of the show, my buddy for many, many years, please welcome Mr. Bobby Carpenter. Yeah!

Here we go in 4K. What's up, Bob? How you doing? Oh, geez. I don't know why the reception's so bad here, man. I apologize, but hopefully you guys are doing good. I mean, how's the writing for the show? Well, it sounds like we might have to drop you in. Yeah, it just got bad. I'll call him back. Was he boozed up or is the reception just bad? Yeah, I couldn't tell. That was my next question, Bob.

I was going to say, I don't know what's going on. It's Thursday, right? It feels like Friday. Yeah, it's Thursday. You said Friday, but that's fine. No, I said it feels like Friday. Start of the show. You said it was Friday, May 4th.

Oh, I did. May the 4th be with you guys. May 4th be with you as well. Did you say sometimes Bob Carpenter would spill a couple whiskey showers on his phone and then his camera acts all weird like it just was? I don't know, maybe. It's possible. Did that happen, Con Man?

I thought he told us that. Z, whenever you get him back, you can just pop Bob right back up. He knows what the deal is here. We're calling him back again. General looks good, though. He's still working out. Trust me, Bob will never stop working out. Bobby will, whenever, like in like 85 years, if Bob ever dies,

he's going to be in his casket just jacked. Probably in a cutoff or maybe no. He might want to go shirtless, actually, for an open casket. I would imagine. Big him up. Ohio State linebackers are like that, huh? Yeah. Schlegel. I saw Bobby and Schlegel. They came over to my house two nights ago. It was awesome. Oh, was Aaron

pissed? Was Aaron pissed? Because he didn't get invited? That's how you got him back? You guys do the elephant walk? What? Dude, it sounds good. What? Sounds good. You guys need to grow up. Can you explain that to maybe some of the young kids that don't know what you're talking about?

I'm not going to do that, AJ. Okay, alright. I'm just saying. You threw it out there. I thought you'd want to explain it. I actually heard that the other day for the first time. Oh, yeah? First time. I swear to God, yeah. I saw something where the dude that did the Human Centipede movie, like the guy that produced it or directed it,

that guy was like a real film person. You know that? Well, yeah. It's a movie. It's a real movie. But he takes himself serious, and he was like a legit thespian. He really took his gig serious. It was Scorsese.

I don't know if scorsese was doing was you know sewing faces the butts but i don't know what a guy can't be serious because he's sewing lips to buttholes and you know has an artistic vision for it it took it it made me i had to hesitate for a second at this the seriousness at which he talked about that movie and making that movie in the process of it because of what it is and what I've seen from it. You gotta keep in mind it's art. Yeah, exactly. I'm not judging it. Trust me. We're talking about it right now and I've mentioned it

many times throughout my life, but I wonder if Pac-Man's completely in the dark. You think he has any idea? Pac-Man, you know who he's in Centipede is? No. No, he doesn't have any idea, AJ. Probably a safe bet. Probably good to just stay naive to this one, Pac. It won't help you. Yeah, it's just the worst movie of all time.

Makes you... What? He hasn't directed a movie since. Okay. Yeah. Well, he did three human centipedes. Right. So he doesn't need any more money then. He's set for life. And then he's actually

directed a movie in 2021 called Tom Six and the Insanity of Making of Another Movie. So I assume that was about probably a movie. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, Tom Six. AJ, you watch any of the NBA or NHL last night? I didn't get to see much of it, but I know the Celtics just absolutely annihilated the Sixers, right?

What happened? What did Embiid do? Nothing. Embiid did terrible. He did fucking nothing. Did he look hurt? No, he didn't look hurt. He did fall and trip at midcourt after hitting a basket,

and the whole arena laughed at him. And I don't know if he was the same mentally after that, a little embarrassed. But I did see a lot of people saying that, and this goes to the MVP conversation, when Jokic isn't playing, the Nuggets are not better. And obviously, when Embiid didn't play game one, the Sixers looked much better. Now, Joe Mazzulla, I don't think you saw this. Joe Mazzulla murdered his post-game press conference about them making adjustments and how the team has been since the game one

lost. Did you see any of that or no? I did not. I don't know if we have that video to play it or not, but I did. I missed that one. I think we do. I think it's two separate videos. I'll play them back to back.

All right, perfect. Here we go. Okay. Joe, what have the last 48 hours been like for your team? I like this guy. Nice. Did you like that? Did you like what was going on the last couple days?

Yes. We need the right play every single time. Nobody wants to ask about all the adjustments we made from game one and game two. Okay, fuck you. See you later. Good for him. Yeah, he's awesome. So it does seem as though the Celtics obviously the angry piss

a lot of people under that comment though of joe mizzoula were saying yeah this guy's definitely killed somebody because he is just a stone cold dog i'd love to see it you know i bet his players love him don't they i know we've heard like great he's only is he like 35 years old the dude's so young very young he's the youngest coach in the league. I do believe there was rumors right before last year when MAU Doka came in to be the new head coach after Brad Stevens went to the president of basketball operations.

Joe Mazzulla was going to leave. A bunch of the guys in the locker room said no, we need Joe Mazzulla to stay. Pay him. Obviously, they ended up paying him. Then he was the one that got the promotion to head coach right after. Are they going to win it all? one that got the promotion to head coach right after. Are they going to win it all? The East is wide open right now.

They should win this series, though. They should make it to the finals. I don't know about them winning the whole East. We should make it to the finals. I'm putting the cart way before the horse. That's what I'm saying. At the current moment, when you just look at the playoffs, it would be an electric Lakers-Celtics finals,

kind of get that rivalry back because that is the biggest rivalry in the NBA. And if that were to happen, that would be unbelievable, both for the Celtics and the Lakers because as someone who hated LeBron for most of my life and now I've come to the point where you have to appreciate how unbelievable his career and what he's still doing is, the LeBron Lakers going up, going for their fifth ring or LeBron's fifth ring versus the young Celtics team

back-to-back finals appearances, the storylines themselves would be very cool. Oh, yeah, like the nostalgia. Those show like the old clips from back in the day, Magic Johnson, all that. Also, didn't Shams tell us Williams might play more? I saw him in the game last night. Did he hit what you guys needed him to hit?

Yeah, no, I did not bet on Bobby Tree's Time Lord, just strictly because I wasn't sure, like Shams said, if he was going to play more or if that was just kind of some, you know, hey, look over here, actually, we're going to play Al Horford more. But, no, he really didn't get much burn because the fourth quarter, I mean, they were up by 30 with like – I guess I saw a lot of – I saw it. I turned it on.

I saw a little bit early, and then I saw from like eight minutes on, and they had all their – they already had guys in. Bingo. Yeah, when you see four plus white dudes in the game, you know it's a blowout. And that's exactly what happened with the Celtics. They unloaded the band. Is that a telltale sign? That's a telltale sign.

Bingo. But no, it was a great game. Back on track. Still won one, though. They stole game one. It's bullshit. But no, NBA playoffs are heating up. I think tonight we have the Lakers.

Lakers Warriors. Yeah. Lakers Warriors game two at nine. That should be another banger. Warriors need to win that game. Well, actually, for the show, I think we want to see the Lakers go up 2-0 because then we

may have a chance that Pack would save a third. Not going to happen. If the Lakers fucking win this game, they're winning the series. There's a stat I saw yesterday actually. When the Lakers fucking win this game, they're winning the series. Yeah, there's a stat I saw yesterday, actually. When the home team of a seven-game series loses game one, the last 15, including last night with the Celtics, the last 15 game twos are won by the home team.

Wow. That's a good stat. Yeah, great stat. So if you're thinking about betting, hashtag stat that if you're thinking about betting, I mean, Warriors would be perfect. Or the opposite is due. You know, some people might make that argument as well.

You're right. What about your good pack? That's going to be a good game. I don't think if Anthony Davis can play the way he fucking played the first game. With his dick down, right? With his dick down. You know what I mean? Because nobody can guard his dick. Nobody can guard him in this series.

It don't matter who you can go and pick one of them, whoever you want to put on him. Now one of them can guard him. If he fucking play with his dick out, this series is going to be really good for the Lakers. Yeah, I do wonder, though, you know, he did play unbelievable. If Steph Curry – Curry don't get his.

We already know that. One game, he's going to have 30 or 40. That's what I mean. You hope Klay's not hot, too. You hope Klay has an off day. Yeah, if they lock down Klay again, I think the Lakers might run away with this thing. But what about all of them? D'Angelo Russell's playing well, too, isn't he?

Dude, I saw him just creating things. He's not too happy, though. The last series, they were like, what's your role? How are you enjoying being a point guard? He's like, I'm not playing point guard. Okay, I'm not doing that because he hasn't had the D'Angelo Russell numbers. But he seems fine because when LeBron James hit that cool half-court hook shot in practice, D'Angelo Russell was going nuts for him.

I don't know. If I was the Lakers, I would be having my little homies tweet every little thing about the pool and Draymond thing. Like, bro, it's every day, bro. Tweet every day. They already mad at each other. They fucking don't know if they want to get on the bus or not. Can they get over that pack?

Can you get over something like that? Did you see the pack? Like, pool. For pool. That's what I'm saying. I don't think. So I went to the Warriors when they played. I took my daughter Christmas tickets, all this stuff.

We go to the game at Cleveland and they rested all five of their starters. The whole arena was pretty upset with it. But during that game I was sitting, we were sitting a little bit behind the Warriors bench. Draymond is in Poole's ear the whole game, like pulling him aside, always giving him advice, always telling him things, doing it to other

players as well, but to Poole a lot. And I just sat there and watched the interaction. I'm like, man, I wonder if Poole really appreciates this. Like the info Draymond has given him or if he thinks like, yeah, man, I got it. Like, let me just go out there and play. I'm not sure. I couldn't figure out the relationship. Was it before or after the punch?

After the punch. Oh, it was after the punch because the punch happened back in camp. This was like in December, January. Yeah. I don't know, man. I'm saying me as a person, I would never forget it in the back of my head. It on film too that's the problem it's on foot there's footage of it so even if you try to get past it and you like the dude that hits you it's still gonna get brought up other people like you're i know i know at least i can speak for myself like i think my family and friends would

be the ones that would never get over it they'd be super pissed and i think that would in turn probably keep me pissed to hold my whole life. You go back and rewind the situation though, you can't push nobody. You push somebody, you should get expect to get fucking hit. That's the thing Sean talked about too. When Sean came on, he said that there was a clip from game six against Sacramento where Jordan Poole was walking

off the court and they lost that game and it wasn't at the end of the game but it was in like the fourth quarter and he's walking off the court and Draymond goes to say something to him and jordan pool basically fucking dips and rips him tells him to see you later steph curry probably 30 seconds later comes over like hey you gotta fucking listen to these guys like you can't just act like a huge prick because you got knocked the fuck out in august or whatever the hell it was and then shams mentioned they had that players only meeting before game seven where

steph curry was like hey this is the playoffs this is the basketball that matters everyone needs to kind of put their shit aside not just pull all the young guys who wanted to get more you know burn like he mentioned cominga and i think dante di vincenzo they kind of had that meeting and then well i mean we'll see what happens but clearly it didn't work i think what pax said though is pretty accurate you know because like he like you mentioned like he he got publicly humiliated i mean that's what everyone was talking about afterwards and it's like makes it way worse the fact that it's on film and we can see it and it's there forever that just makes it that much harder i think for myself personally if i was in that situation to move on from it i think yeah and he could probably put it aside in terms of, like, hey, we're in the same locker room.

Like, you're obviously going to be here. I'm going to be here. But personally, I hate your fucking guts. I don't want anything to do with you off the court. I don't need you grabbing me and, like, you know, trying to be all buddy-buddy with me. Like, everyone knows our shared history together. Like, so you don't need to, like, try to save face and act like my big brother now after everything that's happened. And I think that's the biggest thing. Like, I got my ass whooped when i fought bobby lane the last time

but that was a different fight yeah it wasn't my guy that a guy that i'm seeing every day they're supposed to be a big brother that's supposed to be a a captain like a vet in the room a vet um so every day that that's going to play a picture in his head. I don't give a fuck if it's playoffs or not. You can have a team meeting with Steph. Of course he knows what he's got to do. He signed up for it this year, but I don't think this is going to last too much longer.

No, and I don't know how long Draymond's contract is. They just signed Poole to like a $150, $140 million deal. Everyone thinks he's going to the Lakers this offseason. That's what everyone thinks. Yeah, because Draymond asked the Lakers, or sorry, he asked the Warriors if he could leave their... Played in Portland. They were playing in Portland, yeah.

If they could leave Portland to go to the Lakers game where LeBron set the record for most career points. And they were like, no, can't do that. He really asked that? Yes. Yep. What? Nuts.

I mean, Steve Kerr, good luck, Steve Kerr, trying to keep all of that together. The generational thing of these young guys that are really good players coming in and then these old savvy vets that have won multiple championships, sometimes that's not easy to integrate all that together. Did you guys have that in Cincy or in green bay where like maybe a kid came in and he thought he was the talk of the town and he had to realize pretty quickly that this is the nfl and everybody is unbelievable at football oh yeah of course you're gonna yeah but like but if they can play though pack you know if they can

play and they could they could talk as much as they want if they go make plays guys are gonna respect it and be fine right like you gotta make you got to make plays to talk shit, though. Like, it's hard to just come in. That's the big difference from basketball and football. In football, like, the younger guys, the rookies, you going to talk shit, but you going to have to tone it down. Because these grown mans, and they set up certain shit where they can knock your ass down.

Yeah, yeah. You get what I'm saying? So the respect level is a whole lot different i think as far as the younger guys in football than the younger guys in basketball i think it's also probably much different like getting humbled by like if someone dunks on you as opposed to like getting your fucking ass knocked out on national tv when fucking 30 million people are watching like that's a little bit different than like oh yeah i got dunked on on that possession but i still i still scored you know 25 points and had a good game like it's the it's much different well and for you guys too when you were a rookie was it the opposite

where i mean obviously both you were you know top 10 picks but was there any veterans that were like hey relax like you you're just a rookie where you also kind of have to realize, hey, the franchise just took me to be a franchise player. Were there vets that you kind of had to not show up but kind of put on for just so they could shut the fuck up about whatever they were telling you guys? Albert and fucking Keith Bullitt. Of course I told Albert shit the fuck. Yeah, but you love Keith Bullitt.

But I love Keith Bullitt. But I told Keith at first, I'm like, yo, shut up, bro. Fucking first defensive player pick. Shut the fuck up. Because he was adamant about me doing stuff certain ways. I'm like, bro, I'm not doing that, bro. I'm wearing F-1s to practice. If you want to go out there and wear your cleats, you wear your cleats.

And, like, we feel out about that a lot. But Coach Fisher was like, hey, do what you want to do. Just make sure you work hard. Okay. So, yeah. But Keith was like that. Keith was so da-da-da-da-da-da-da. I wasn't going for it.

I'm like, I'm doing it my way. You can't tell me how to do shit that you ain't been telling me my whole fucking life. I'm not listening to you. And then at what point were you guys? I never listened to him. Yeah, but you still had a ton of respect. Like, you still speak about him like he's awesome.

Did it ever turn? Was, like, Keith ever just like, all right, you know what, Pac-Man's right. Was there a time in the season maybe where you had an unbelievable game and Keith was like, okay, never mind, do your thing? Well, I don't think he realized how good I was at first. You know, a lot of people, like, he probably never seen me play until he seen me catch a ball in practice with some Air Force 1s on. So, I know he think, oh, this fucking little kid from West Virginia think he all this shit.

Everybody thinks they all that. You know how it's at. Yeah. Out of the draft is going to be, what, two superstars, three superstars. Bingo. The rest of them going to be bust. But until we play fucking that Philly game, I think is when I want them over. Remember I told you that late night I had a 72-yard return?

I was late for curfew that night, which I stayed out all night. I had that return, and I looked at Keefe. I said, I threw up. He was like, fuck it, let's go do it again. He was like, this motherfucker here is different. Yeah, yeah. Nice. This one right here?

Yeah, this one right here. I think that's when I won over Keith Respect. And I had a lot of respect for him, too, because he was a linebacker, a star linebacker that was playing on special teams for me. But, yeah, this was a hell of a night right here before this night, I should say. How did you evade bed check and everything? Man, Fisher had a certain relationship,

I would say. Nice. Wherever I went, I had security, though, but Fisher was good to me, man. I was spoiled, bro. Fisher spoiled me. He's the man, right? You went to the NFL with Fisher, the greatest players, coach,

treat you like a pro, right? If you take care of your business, you're good to go. Isn't that how he is? Yeah, Fisher is all about the players. Like, I've never, like, we never had, like, live contact in Fisher camp. They call it camp. Even in camp. Damn.

Not even camp, bro. We call it camp cupcake. That easy? The hardest thing you're going to do in Fisher camp is maybe 1040s. That's it. Man. It was big, man. That's it. Man. It was big. We used to hear stories.

We'd hear stories about fishing and what you guys did in Tennessee, and people would go, oh, man, that sounds amazing. We're in the middle of our third two-a-day in a row with full pads. Big Mike. Our third two-a-day, fishing. We're going fishing at the lake. Everybody bring your own shit. That's unreal.

You play with Donnie Nicky there? Yeah. Donnie Nicky was one of my favorite teammates. He would run through a fucking wall on special teams, man. Donnie was the king of knocking himself out. I played with him in college for a year, and he was the state. Donnie, first off, could fly. Big old arms, super athletic, crazy as can be,

and an absolute granite head, and was never scared to throw that thing around. I love Donnie, man. Was Big Mike a player's coach? He is, right? But he still kind of made you guys get after it? He definitely was a Western Panthers fan. Yeah, he was.

I like how Big Mike runs a program. It was definitely – it kind of changed. His first year as a head coach was my first year. I got drafted right when he came in as head coach. And I've joked – I've told you on on here he joked later on years down the road i should have put in jail how i'll practice you my first couple years here guys like how we you know we came out of the gates hot like when he got the gig like it was before the old cba so yeah it was we were we were banging a decent amount and i don't know i mean it worked for us we i didn't

that's all i knew so luckily i didn't know any other we hear stories of places that didn't hit much didn't do much but yeah we kept it up throughout the year well and AJ didn't you say like I think you've mentioned this like several times you're welcome to the NFL moment you know you walk in obviously acting like you're the cock of the walk and the grave digger uh Gilbert Brown wouldn't let you sit at the defensive table right wouldn't let you sit down and eat with the defensive guys. You had to go sit by yourself. You're like, oh, wow, I'm not big, bad A.J. Hawk from Ohio State. I'm just Gary Britchier moment.

Exactly. Hey, Ray, this is a defensive table. You're right. Gary Digger was there. He wasn't on the team anymore. He left the team like maybe five, six years before he was retired from the NFL. He came back. He came back into the lunchroom, and he saw me sit with the defense,

and he just hit me in the back of the head. So I had to go take a knee in the corner and finish my lunch. Yeah, my little sloppy joes or whatever I was eating. That's right. How was Marvin for both of you guys? Because Marvin seems like a great – He was a player's coach, right? Yeah, he seems like kind of the combination of the two almost,

Fisher and Big Mike. Marvin's a father figure to a lot of people, I feel like. Don't you think that, Pac? Yeah, but he worked the shit out of us. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Marv was – he was great. I really enjoyed Marv. I don't know.

I'm sure you did too. But, man, he is – Marv's a really, really good dude. He really is. I noticed that from the jump with him. I mean, I still keep in contact with him. I was only there a year, and the guy's awesome. Marv, like, father figure. He really cares about the players.

But he's going to work the shit out of you. You're going to practice. And you're going to practice outside. Damn. Well, there was no option to practice. Next to the gravel. Next to that gravel plant. Yeah.

With the smoke coming over, AJ. Yeah, no one ever got hurt from that gravel. There was never a time where someone caught a pass and, like, tripped on a massive boulder or something. Maybe we couldn't breathe. I don't think nobody got hurt, though. Jeez. Yeah, I mean, that's –

Maybe, Pac, when you were there, you were the longer than me. Anyone ever get hit by a car crossing that main road going to practice? Nah. Nah. What a come-up for Cincy, though. I mean, Cincy's now every year. We're going to have to talk about him like a Super Bowl contender. Well, they are.

They are. They have been. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you been there? Have they improved? What do they call it? AJ, their restaurant? Oh, yeah.

The new restaurant. My first year there was when the new restaurant went in. AJ, guess what? They're putting a fucking nursery in, huh? Nursery. That's because that NFLPA thing changed stuff. For the players' kids. Oh, like during games and postgame and all that?

During the game and during the day while they're at practice, which is pretty sweet. You could bring your kid in and they could babysit her? In the morning, they got a whole daycare center just for the players where you can check your kids in, check them out when you get ready to go. I think that's pretty sweet. Of course, we know about the bubble, but Joe Burrow's getting a lot of things changed. I ain't going to just say Joe Burrow, but shit, Joe Burrow getting a lot of things changed over there. And that NFLPA report card.

Report card. Everyone talks about it. Everyone's making changes. I wish they had that fucking report card when we was out, because I think that plays a big factor in people changing things. Because now that we say, oh, all these places got F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F hasn't Arizona already been changing things since theirs came out? Yeah, I think you're right. The public perception of a billionaire being a huge fucking cheapskate and nickel and diamond guys in Arizona charging them for lunches and stuff like that.

When you get fans in the NFL and people outside being like, how the fuck is this the way this works in the biggest league on the planet? This kind of stuff can't happen because everyone reacted to that NFL PA survey. It was like Lamar. People reacted to Lamar like, hey, just fucking pay the guy Baltimore.

And then when they start hearing that you had to pay for lunches and that families, you couldn't bring your kids into the stadium during game day because they had to change babies on the floor. In public bathrooms. In public bathrooms. Yeah, that type of stuff. It didn't even seem like a possibility from the outside looking in because the NFL is the biggest business in America and is just going like that.

And then you hear things like that and the entire public perception is like, oh, okay, I've been rooting for a team that is the cheapest team in the league. This is bullshit. And it actually did cause change. I don't know why, to your point, why they didn't release them publicly before this, why this is the first year yeah well media we ain't to where we we are not where we at now where we were where we were well didn't everything is like they got these iphones you can see every fucking thing now yeah you can't piss without somebody taking a picture of you so of course now you know i've never been in an organization where you had to

pay for your food basically i mean plain and simple if i've been in arizona they've been like pay for your lunch the first thing i would have hey yo i'm in arizona i just got here yeah these motherfuckers got us paying for lunch here like that would have been the first thing i would have did because that's ludicrous to me like we we hear basically 12 hours out of the day and we got to pay for lunch? Are you fucking kidding me? The weight room stuff is crazy to me. Like you would think that every single NFL team would have like a state-of-the-art weight room. It's like, no, some of these places, these guys are working out in like a fucking anytime fitness pretty much. It's like, hey, these guys are going out there

and putting their bodies on the line and potentially getting killed on the field. I think that was crazy to me. Like, oh, no, some of these places have a shitty weight room that hasn't had any upgrades in like 20-plus years. Well, they did. So I got to Cincinnati at perfect time because, Pac, I got there as they redid the weight room and the new cafeteria slash restaurant.

I know before that they said you guys had to work out in, like, position groups because you couldn't fit enough. You could only fit, like, 20 guys in the weight room at that time, right? Yeah, it was horrible before you got there, AJ. It was, like, really bad. And the cafeteria was really bad, mate. That's what I heard. When you got there, it was like... Perfect.

What did they say? I love it. And then going to the Holiday Inn, that was the difference. It was nice, man. I liked it. There was something there like... How many years were you in Cincy, Pac? Nine.

Damn. It was the... So I was nine years in Green Bay before I got there, so it's all completely new to me. I grew up loving the Bengals. That was my squad. But then getting there, like, everything was very different from Green Bay, but it was also really, like, it made me realize,

hey, there's more than one way to run a team. There's more than one way. Like, it was just cool. Like, there's more – I don't know exactly how to describe it, but everything was run much differently. The team was super tight, though. Like, my locker's right next to Vontez you were right across the way like i really enjoyed all the guys i really did i don't know how they work on crafting and kind of putting the roster

together but we had a great roster of like dudes that were you're not gonna mess around like i was i felt very confident in our team especially our defense if someone wanted to fight us we're okay and then everyone was cool yeah it was a family. And I think when Mr. Brown and Duke put the roster together, that's how they think. It's a family-run business. There's not too many outsiders that's connected with the Bengals, you know. Duke been there forever. They don't have – he's the gem.

Like, Mr. Brown is the owner. Katie is running everything now. Blackburn is doing the contract. So it's all in-house. Lil' Katie is doing the head of the marketing. So I think when they go about putting these rosters together, they think about close-knit

family guys that can communicate together. And it's worked out pretty good for the most part, you know, in these last couple of years. It worked out pretty good when we was there. I think we was a play away from being really good. Yeah, for sure. And do you think, to AJ's point about Green Bay,. I think we was a play away from being really good. Yeah, for sure. And do you think, to AJ's point about Green Bay, and I think it's

the same in Dallas, do you think Steelers, New England now, like there are just some teams, and the Bengals are definitely heading that way, but there are some organizations that are kind of, not higher class, but they're just run in a better, in a much better

way than everyone else, because obviously AJ got there when they redid it. I mean, shit, that was still in the, what, 2017? 15. 15. That is still pretty far along, whereas some places, Arizona, they were that culture. Tennessee. The way that's kind of set up, and Tennessee is hopefully getting a new stadium.

But just those main places, or not main, but those kind of stalwart NFL franchises, they just have an innate advantage against some of these other places because of the way that they're run. Yeah, it's different levels, and you've got to pay to play. You know how it is. Jerry World is way different. You get what I'm saying? In Jerry World, you've got a chef for each position.

Yeah, he was like the first. The linebackers have a chef. The receivers got a chef. The wide receivers in the corners, y'all got a chef because y'all can eat fried food. So it's really different when you go different places. You get what I'm saying? So the bigger the market, normally the bigger the intangibles and all of that stuff. How was Denver?

How was Denver's facilities and all of their whole situation? Unbelievable. Like, Denver, like, we had massage people on the road. Like, you set your times, AJ. Like, didn't have to pay for it. It was, like, the recovery part in Denver was the best I've ever had. Who was your strength coach at the time? Lauren Landau?

Landau, yeah. Landau was the strength coach in Denver. See, I wouldn't expect that. Yeah. Just because I didn't think Denver. I mean, they're doing the whole renewal of the stadium with the new owner. But I wouldn't expect Denver to be one of those places. Oh, yeah.

Shout out to the Broncos, man. Yeah, they did a good job. And Elway treated the players how he wanted to be treated oh okay i'll say yeah that's why yeah because he kind of went through it and then front office knew what players needed yeah and the bowling family did a good job too yeah of treating players really good like when i got there it was top class bro like the vets got to choose first but like whole massage list um recovery day um dsm guns um acupuncture um whatever you can name that you needed you had no nowhere to you didn't have to outsource it in denver they had it all right there yeah that vj the head coach vance yeah vj

was the head coach so yeah vance josephance Joseph. Do you think he'll get another shot at becoming a head coach? He's the coordinator of Rare now. I love Vijay, and this is no shot at Vijay. I don't know if Vijay is a head coach. I think he's a better coordinator than he is a head coach. That's just my personal opinion. And, yeah, I stand on that. Yeah, that's not a shot.

He was the DB coach when I was in Cincy, and I went to VJ every day for different questions about the defense and scheme, and he was just cool. I was glad he got his opportunity, but then obviously it didn't work out. He's still doing well. He's back in Denver now. Yeah, he's back in Denver as a coordinator. Smart guy, man.

We've talked about this, too, like multiple times. It seems like just where the NFL is at now, if you're not like a D'Amico Ryans where it's like you're an up-and-coming yes you know defensive guy who's never got a crack at it before like teams aren't taking a shot on Vance Joseph for another opportunity to be head coach like they're gonna get a young offensive coordinator who's a guru or I mean even look at like realistically likeistically, if the Bucs stink this year, Todd Bowles is probably going to get fired and he's probably not going to get another job to be a head coach, but there will be

a fucking long list of teams who are prepared to hire him as a defensive coordinator. Performance-wise, Lou Anarumo. Lou Anarumo has been one of the best DCs in the last three years. He's helped turn the Bengals around. And it's him versus Gannon, who, you know, Gannon's CJGJ.

People were kind of taking shots on him on Twitter. But it's not as if, you know, the Eagles defense, which was very good, you know, attacking the quarterback. But the Bengals defense, they didn't have nearly the amount of studs that the Eagles had. But they were still top ten in everything. And Lou have done it in Miami too, shit. Lou is damn good in Miami with Rashad Jones, them and them boys. And he know how to do it with not spending a lot of money. I shouldn't say not spending a lot of money. I should say with a lot of guys with no names, I should say that,

than going with the bigger name guys. But he's been productive and been in the top 10, shit, in the last 10 years, whatever team he's been in, in the's been productive and been in the top ten. In the last ten years, whatever team he's been in, in the last seven he's been in the top ten as far as defense. But he's in his 50s. Yeah. Well, look like Wink Martindale last year. Everyone was saying there's no way this guy isn't going to get a head coaching job.

He's one of the best DCs in the NFL. He has been for a long time. He came, interviewed with the Colts multiple times and there were several openings and then eventually it was just like actually you know what I'm just going to move from Baltimore to New York and I'll just be the DC of the Giants like I wonder if he kind of saw the writing on the wall it's like oh like this just kind of isn't trending in my favor AJ do you think Lou should just stay as the defensive coordinator me personally I'm like damn you go back and think of some of the coordinators that was good defensive

coordinators that went to be head coaches. One that we had in Cincinnati that went to the Vikings was an unbelievable head coach, but I think he's a better defensive coordinator. I'm talking about Zimmer. I think he's a better defensive coordinator than a head coach and the reason i say that because i know zim as a person and we know zim his communication is not the best as far as a head coach but he probably enjoys he enjoys his defensive coach too like not having to deal with all the garbage he wants to coach his guy yeah but as a

defensive coordinator we expect zim to come hey motherfucker get your ass in this you know what i mean but it's kind of different as a head coach doing that well and we saw like his relationship with kirk cousins you know like it was kind of the same thing like he was always motherfucking him like he was a guy on the defensive side kirk cousins was like hey you son of a bitch like i'm a quarterback like i don't want to have this kind of relationship with you and when he was in minnesota like it wasn't as if the defense was ever you know as good as the. And when he was in Minnesota, it wasn't as if the defense was ever as good as the defenses were when he was in the Bengals organization with you guys. Sometimes, is that a big deal for players?

When Zim left you guys, was it kind of like, I don't know, he's probably just a better coordinator? Or did you have to find that trial by fire? You have to go find that out on your own. I'm not going to lie. We was hurt when Zim left, but we had Pauly G. Pauly G was right up under Zim and, like, was the co-coordinator, defensive coordinator.

So Pauly G would run the third down meetings. He would run the Friday meetings. What's his full name? Pauly G. Paul Gunther. Paul Gunther. Yeah. He would run the third down meetings and all of the fourth down meetings,

the Friday meetings. So we was kind of comfortable with Pauly G. But the respect level that we had for Zim as a defense was way higher because he was no nonsense, and he would treat everybody the fucking same. And, like, he did not bullshit. It was old school. He was straight up with you here. Yeah, yeah.

He had a successful run as a head coach. Like, Lou Anarumo, I'm sure he wants to see, yeah, like whether he's a better D coordinator than he is a head coach. He's still, like every coach, you want all your coaches to aspire to become a head coach, right? Yes. I would imagine. He wants to at least, until he does it, he doesn't truly know, like,

hey, what would it be like to run an NFL team again? there's always a chance though to like these defensive guys they go coach for a couple years or whatever and then if they do go back to being in dc and they're on great teams no one's gonna remember that like dick laboe was a head coach for two years i don't think anybody remembers that like they'll always remember him being the defense coordinator for the steelers yeah well it's also like in terms of Anna Rumo, I understand everyone said, yeah, if you get the opportunity to go be a head coach, you go be a head coach.

But you also probably consider like, okay, I have Joe Burrow. We have a legitimate chance to go to the Super Bowl every single year for the next, what, 10 years. And if I'm going to get a head coaching job, what, I'm going to go to a team that was 2 and 15 last year we're probably going to suck you know my first year and we see what teams do now with head coaches in terms of like hey if you don't win in two years we're going to fucking fire you and we're going to find someone new so it's like do i want to leave a great situation i have right now go get fired

and then go be a dc in a shittier situation than i was initially and that's the demico ryan's difference with lou like lou is an older guy. I think we can all agree on that. And D'Amico knows, like, hey, I have 10, 15 years here where I can be in Houston and I can kind of build this culture and I can also work with some of these younger guys who are from just a completely different era of football where Lou is from the old guard.

Maybe he doesn't want to have to deal with the change of the game and especially how some of the players are just different from what it was when he was probably starting out as a DC. Yeah, you've got to evolve. I mean, that's the thing. Being a defensive coach, you're already behind the eight ball when it comes to getting a head coaching gig in the NFL because it's not the splashy thing to do.

Now, D'Amico kind of was because his history as a great player for the Texans and then as a coordinator for the Niners. Everyone knew of him and had so much respect for him. But you're right, Ty. If you're not like a Vrabel or someone like a former player that's coaching, I think if you're a defensive guy, you're already at the back of the line. You have to do something exceptional in those interviews and whatever you're doing to actually get a job. Now, defensive

guys will still get head coaching gigs, but I still think, for at least for the time being, it's going to be offensive guys, offensive-minded guys that are going to be first in line for those head coaching gigs. Seems like it's tough, too, because it's just so much out of your control. We talk to a lot of these guys who end up

being, like, you know, Chuck says it all the time. He's like, I love coaching. And then you become a head coach, and it's like, you're not running the defense anymore. You're an administrator. You've got to deal with stupid administrative stuff. Yeah, you just want to coach. Hey, let me coach my guy.

And the way the NFL is now, it's like, yeah, defense is important, but it's like who you hire as an offensive coordinator and who your quarterback is is ultimately going to be whether or not you're successful. And that's what Pat has mentioned. Hiring a defensive coach and you have a successful offense, you're losing the guy who's running the offense because he's getting a head coaching job, and then you have to restart. I just saw it in New England.

It sucks. When your OC leaves and a new system gets put in place, granted, not every single team is going to have a guy who's never coached offense as the offensive coordinator, but when any situation changes, it can drastically affect what is going on on the

offensive side of the football. On the other side of it too, sometimes Doug Peterson, he's a first year with Trevor Lawrence offensive guy, and they absolutely crushed it. So it's both sides of the sword there, but it is hard to justify the advantages of having a defensive head coach versus the offense because you need to have that offensive guy,

especially now with how complex some offenses are. But then there are others, like Aaron has said, where a monkey could run in offense because of how simple it is. And it's just kind of knowing when to throw the football and where to throw it. Well, and head coaches will tell you guys that have taken gigs. I mean, whether they want to admit it publicly or not, a lot of it depends on what their front office is like, what the owner, how some owners want to be heavily involved and don't let the coaches do everything they want to do. And some coaches say, Hey, I hired you. You're in control. This is what

you go do your thing. I'm not going to micromanage you. I think that's a huge thing that doesn't get talked about. You got to be on the same page with all of those people in the front office or your team is just, it's going to be jumbled together with players that you probably didn't want, but these guys want, and they want to jam in the lineup and say, hey, you need to play this guy. I just drafted him, and then here you go. We're starting that process over again, and we're hiring new head coaches every two to three years. They're where you're not a head coach.

You're just a do-boy. Yep. And it's crazy how far down the line some of these – I mean, Mike McDaniel, it's not as if he was an OC. It's not as if any – at least me, at least. I'll speak for myself. It's not as if I knew an OC. It's not as if any, at least me at least, I'll speak for myself, it's not as if I knew who the fuck Mike McDaniel was before he was introduced as a head coach, even just a head coach candidate,

and then you're hearing, oh, shit, this is the guy who's designing all the runs for the Niners. That's insane. But the Niners don't fall off because Kyle Shanahan. Whereas in other situations, if a guy who was, what was he, third tier? He wasn't even the OC. He was the run game coordinator. They lose that guy, and then he's an unbelievable head coach,

and he runs the offense because of the knowledge he's got from Kyle Shanahan. And it's the same with Zach Taylor and Sean McVay. It took them a couple years, but once they got a good quarterback, all of a sudden Zach Taylor's an unbelievable coach. Yeah, it's a tough gig, man. As they say all the time, it's tough to win a game in the NFL just one, let alone you have 17 regular season ones every single year. This guy has come on the program many, many times.

We love having this guy on. Everyone, please welcome Mr. Dana White. Yeah! What's up, Dana? Dana, what's up? Sorry, Pat. Pat had a baby this morning. I don't know if you know that or not, but he had his little baby, so he has his first child born, so

I'm sitting in here doing this thing from Ohio, so I hope you're doing well. Are you in Jersey? Yeah, no, I'm in New York City, but yeah, I'm not here for the fight in Jersey, yeah. Awesome, yeah. I know UFC 288 coming up. You gotta be excited. I guess Jersey, you're in New York City. I know that was a little bit of a task trying to get the UFC MMA into New York back in the day.

We don't have to go over that whole situation. You'll be fighting at Prudential Center. What about this card, I guess? There's a lot of different things going on. You've got some people that are stepping back into the cage after taking some time off. Obviously, Henry Cejudo in the main event. Is ring rust a thing? I know that's

like a cliche thing to talk about what do you think it's really not I'm actually a big believer in it and yeah we haven't been to Jersey in a while so it's good to be back Jersey's where it all started for for the UFC and MMA um you know Larry Hazard who who ran the commission and is still there today is is the guy he had a background in martial arts and understood the sport and got us in, and we did our first event there. And that was how my relationship with Trump started, over at the Taj Mahal. And it's good to be back.

And, yes, it's good to have Cejudo back. I am a believer in ring rust, and I think it's what makes this fight really interesting. When Cejudo walked away, there was no doubt that he was an absolute beast and and dominated uh you know that division and now he's coming back and uh taking on al jermaine sterling who who is the champ yeah it is with suhudo like during his retirement i know he's been off what three years now did you know the whole time like hey we could probably get this dude back? Or was this something that came on recently?

No, when people retire, I leave them alone and let them do their thing. I didn't expect him to come back. But, you know, here we are. Here we are. Now, another guy, Gilbert Burns, he is not taking some time off. This dude is not even a month out from his fight with Jorge Masvidal on the co-made event. I know he's fighting Wale Muhammad. How does that happen?

How do you make such a quick turnaround? Well, you know, he didn't take any damage in that fight. And, you know, some of these guys fight three times a year. Some guys fight four or five times a year. You know, he wanted to stay active. He wanted to fight, and we got a fun co-main event. That's a fun fight. You know, Gilbert Burns is, you know, he comes out and never rests.

He just goes balls to the wall. You know, his style of fighting, Bilal Muhammad, is durable, tough, gritty, you know, and wants a title shot. So that should be an unbelievable co-main event. Oh, absolutely. I'm sure the people there in Jersey, like you said, you got your start in Jersey. What's the energy like? I know when you came on before, you talked about how awesome Miami was

and how everyone was so excited. Does Jersey have a similar feel? Well, you know, we haven't been here in a long time. The arena sold out. There's going to be 17 000 people there uh on saturday night and so it's always it's always uh exciting at the ufc events so should be fun it is a boston connor has a quick question for you connor you can go yeah dana uh there was an interview i believe recently with michael chandler and he kind of mentioned how

it would be a stain on mcgregor's legacy if he didn't show up to the fight. Is that even a thought right now? And also, when are you expecting that one? During the summer? Yeah, I don't know. Obviously, that season of The Ultimate Fighter is going to air. It's coming up soon on ESPN. And hopefully, yeah, hopefully we can do that fight before the end of the year. Hell yeah. Tone Diggs, you got one? Yeah, Dana, I mean, let that fight before the end of the year. Hell yeah. Tone Diggs, you got one? Yeah, Dana, I mean, let's talk about the elephant in the room. You are properly jacked right now.

Jacked. You've talked about it on this show, and you talked about your guy Gary Brekka, so it motivated me to actually reach out, and I reached out. I'm going to do the test. I'm going to do the blood test. Do we have to work out, too, or do we just get properly jacked by whatever Gary tells us to do? Good for you, brother. I'm happy to do the task. I'm going to do the blood test. Do we have to work out too, or do we just get properly jacked by whatever Gary tells us to do? Good for you, brother. I'm happy for you.

I'm telling you right now, it'll be life-changing for you. So my sister and I are complete opposites. And I got her the blood work done, and she doesn't like to work out. I work out every day. She doesn't like to work out. One of the things that she said she loves about Gary Brekker and what he does is it's science. It's not some guy telling you, oh, you got to do 45 minutes of cardio. You got to do this. You got to do that. And the other thing that's incredible about it is you notice a difference in 10 weeks.

In 10 weeks, your life will begin to change. And I promise you, I can't wait to see your results and you to tell me how you feel. I'm excited. I'll keep up with you, Dana. Hell yeah. Dana, you said this is a lifestyle for you now. This isn't a diet. This isn't just what you're doing for a fad. This is how you are for the rest of your life, correct? Yeah, I literally woke up this morning. We flew in last night from Vegas and landed here at like 12.31 in the morning in New York.

Went to bed, got up this morning. I found 1231 in the morning in New York, went to bed, got up this morning. I, I found this place called remedy in New York. Uh, they do cold plunging. I, I literally religiously cold plunge every day. I did a 37 degrees for six minutes, six minutes. And yeah, it's, it's literally life changing. It's, it's incredible. Especially as you start to get older, I'm 53 now. And, and now, and inflammation is basically what ends up killing us. And the Gary Brekker 10X system gets rid of all the inflammation in your body, gets your blood work perfect. You feel like you are in your 20s again.

It's insane, and I recommend it. I have no skin in this game whatsoever. I recommend everybody does it, man. It's life-changing. And I lost 40 pounds. Hell, yeah. 40 pounds, really? That much?

40 pounds. I was 236 when I started. I'm 196 now. Wow. Jeez. I mean, that's got to feel really good. Like, how do your knees, ankles, your joints, everything feel much better? First of all, there's no inflammation in my body whatsoever.

I don't snore anymore. I don't have sleep apnea. I'm off all the doctor's meds that I was on. I was on blood pressure medicine, thyroid medicine, and cholesterol medicine for like 12 or 13 years. I'm not on any of that garbage anymore. All I take now are supplements. I mean, I could go on for fucking two days telling you how. Jeez. So you say you're 53. Okay. I'll be 40 here in probably six months, but mentally I still feel like I'm 15, probably maybe 17. How old do you feel mentally? Like you feel like a 53 year old? Guys, that's the other thing. My cognitive is through the roof right now. thing my my cognitive is is through the roof right now i uh you know a year ago you know mentally i was not in a good place and uh it's just everything mentally physically emotionally you know my workload now is i'm taking on a lot more stuff me and the fratitas are

are back together working on a lot of different businesses that we're building together right now so i i could not be in a much better place than i am right now a lot more stuff don't you think as you get ordered shouldn't you take a few things off the table or you just keep ramping it up yeah fuck that shit how's the old slap week i know you've been talking about i know you guys get crazy numbers out there how's everything going with that right now with what with the power slap with slap oh it's incredible man yes let me let me explain something to you so when you're talking about we do crazy numbers like when we blow every sport out of the water right so our average post for a uh a power, right, is like 693,000 views.

We're number one in all sports. Number two is the NBA at 70,000 views. That's how big it is. Jeez. So what do you think the – does the media understand that? That's a gigantic number. I had no idea it was that big of a separation. But does, like, the old school mainstream media understand that.

Do they even get what the internet is? They understand the numbers that you guys are doing. They do not. And I could give a shit. You know what I mean? I'm not even focused on those guys whatsoever. I, you know,

what I'm focused on is social media. This is like, it's going to be the first sport that was ever built on social media. That's what this thing's going to end up being. I'm getting ready to do season two of the reality show in Abu Dhabi. We have another fight coming up here in Vegas on May 24th. That thing's going to be live and free on Rumble. And then we go to Abu Dhabi and start filming season two.

The winners of season two that do the reality show and fight in the finale will fight the winners of season two that you know that do the reality show and fight in the finale will fight the winners of season one so nice now ty smith has a question but i wanted to ask you quickly about that sphere thing being built out in vegas i haven't been there is there will there be fights there what is that thing or is that just a concert venue yeah we're looking at it you know u2 is opening the place there i think they just added more dates to um you know it's a project that MSG is building and we have an incredible relationship with MSG so yeah we're looking at it and talking to them right now looks awesome Ty you got something yeah Danny you mentioned Bilal Muhammad you know potentially getting a title shot if he wins this weekend obviously every division you have is just so stacked and i know

you have like the pound for pound rankings and the rankings with every single division but how do you go about choosing like who is going to get the next title shot in terms of like who's going to be in the pecking order and how do you kind of like keep guys happy who you know because i assume every guy in the top five is like no fuck that i want the next title shot i deserve the next title shot like how does how does that process go you're absolutely right that's exactly the way that it goes and basically the way that it works is you know anybody in the top five depends on who fought each other before who didn't um and and who's coming off a win plus a lot of it is with timing with injuries and and and where the event is there's a lot of different things that go into who gets the next title shot.

But yes, they are all over us, you know, nonstop, dying for that title shot. But Bilal has been tough. Bilal's stepping up and taking this fight against Gilbert Burns. And he's a good guy. He's a guy we like, we respect. And we'll see how this thing plays out on Saturday. Dana, a guy that I think you should try to recruit to get in the octagon, Pac-Man Jones.

He's in studio there. I know he has something for you. The guy can fight Pac-Man. You got something for Dana? Yeah, Dana, I just want to ask you, will we ever see a Conor McGregor in a Nate Diaz fight for the people? Yeah, I think that that fight is always there.

It's always out there, there you know for them to uh to finish their their their uh trilogy um i don't know if we'll ever see it i mean everybody's getting a lot older now you know what i mean we'll see how it plays out though but that fight's always going to be there dana i don't know if it's a touchy subject or whatever but i saw some guys suspended from the power slap. Why are you guys testing these dudes for anything? Why is there any testing? Do you have to? Yeah, so what we want is we ran toward regulation.

We want to be regulated by the Athletic Commission, turn this into a real sport. This is the same stuff that happened with the UFC early on. That's why we ended up doing the deal with USADA. We spend $7 million a year with usada on testing we don't just do that because we want to fucking blow seven million dollars we do it you got to clean up the sport and uh you know now that we're sanctioned by the athletic commissions these guys are going to test and it's just it's part of what you go through in building a sport you just have to i guess what make the the competitors aware of hey this is these are the

guidelines this is what you can and can't do if you're going to take part in our sport 100 yeah listen there's there's drug testing in this thing now so um you know and a couple of the guys if they would have said what they were doing if they're up front about it you know they would have got tues on it you know um but yeah yeah, listen, this is all part of building the sport. We went through the same shit with the UFC, and it's just part of the deal. Yeah, TUE, the therapeutic use exemption. You guys used to have that in the UFC. Is that around anymore?

No. But, you know, there are certain cases where guys are seeing doctors and, you know, there are certain cases where guys are seeing doctors and, you know, there's always different cases. And plus the stuff that I'm listening, I'm not the drug expert in this company. We got a guy who handles this stuff. But a couple of the guys were were on. I can't remember what the hell it was called, but it's something that, you know, is basically when you're getting off drug use, you use this thing,

this medicine. I sound like a fucking moron. I have no idea what I'm talking about. That's all right. We don't either. Ins and outs. What is it, methadone? Yeah, methadone.

There's like methadone clinics, right, that are out there for people to get off drugs? Yeah, exactly. A couple of these guys were on methadone. They were embarrassed to talk about it and didn't tell the commission, which could have saved them a lot of problems and money. Wow.

So in your card, though, for the UFC 288 coming up here Saturday night, what would be something? So say there's a casual fan that's tuned in, a fight that they should watch. I know Krohn Gracie's coming back. He's been out for a little while. Things like that are there any other fights like that that we should tune into yeah yeah the crone gracie is a good one and then the other one that we think is going to be great is matt fravola versus uh drew dober and that's on the espn prelim so you

can actually watch that fight you know live and free on espn drew dober versus matt fravola that's that's the last fight on the prelims before we head into the pay-per-view card. That's a fun one. And Matt's from Jersey. Oh, yeah. That's a huge thing, isn't it? Trying to figure out where you place all these fights on the card. I would imagine that's a very valuable spot, being the last

ESPN free card leading into the pay-per-view. You probably spent a bunch of time trying to figure all this out. I know you had a great... I love your pressers, obviously, but you had a presser where you basically were talking about a fight you should have had at a different position, I remember, a couple weeks ago or whatever. And you said, yeah, I messed that one up.

I should have put this guy here. I would imagine that's a prime spot, isn't it, for the most eyeballs to try to drive some traffic to the pay-per-view? 100%, yeah. You always want to end the prelims with what you think is going to possibly be the best fight of the night. And, yeah, that's prime real estate for up-and-coming guys to be in that spot on ESPN as the main event on the prelims that leads into the main card.

It's as big as it gets other than being the main event. You said you were doing some – you and the Fertittas still have all kind of business. Obviously, you're always out there working and grinding. Anything that you can say publicly of what you might have down the road? Well, we're partners in SLAP, and we also own a company called Throw One. You know Ridiculousness on MTV? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Rob Dyrdek. We own SLS Skate League. We own Nitro Circus. We own Travis Pastrana's Nitro Rally Car Racing. Plus, we own a company called Three Square, which basically we own every volleyball tournament in America. Really? And a bunch of other things, too.

What do you guys just go around and say, hey, that thing's cool. I'll buy that. Is that basically what you guys are doing? Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. We like to buy it. The Fertittas or Jack, are both them? I haven't seen them publicly in a while. They're both still

Jack. They both look like they're in great shape. Yeah, they're both on 10X too. They're doing the same thing with me. I got them turned on. Yeah. You get some kind of referral fee, right? Yeah, I should. No, I'm paying for everything still.

I've got to get you to negotiate my fucking referral fee. I would imagine that's all you do. Like you said, Tone Diggs, he said he's going to change his life. You got me really questioning. I need to go get tested and figure it out. I'm kind of scared of the blood test though, where he tells me you have seven days to live or whatever. That's the one thing I'm kind of worried about.

Yeah. Well, here's, here's the thing, man. When you're talking about like referral fees, you know, I'm one of these guys, you know, I got turned on to this thing by Carrie Kasem, Casey Kasem's daughter. I've been friends with her for like 25 years. She turned me on to this guy and she's like, I'm telling you, he's going to change your life. And she was right.

He literally has, you know, I used to look at this stuff like hippie shit. I used to be like, man, this is bullshit. I don't believe it. I see lots of people that say that about it online, you know, now, um, it's not, it's incredible, you know, and I didn't start doing it because I was looking for a referral freeze. And I would tell anybody, anybody to do this. It's absolutely life-changing. And you can literally save people's lives with 10X and Gary Brekker.

This guy is as legit as legit gets. Sounds amazing. He's probably a bit overwhelmed by the amount of traffic you have driven his way, I would imagine. He's getting buried. He's getting spread very thin. Man, that's awesome. Well, Dana, I can't thank you enough for coming on here. I know

you guys have a big event going on tomorrow night, UFC 288. We will definitely be tuning in, checking out some of those awesome fights, but thank you very much. Can I wait to talk to you again sometime, Dana? Thanks, guys, and congrats to Pat. Oh, and I wanted to say this too. When you opened the show, holy shit, the stuff that he did at the WWE,

I mean, I was blown away by Logan Paul. You know, you tell Logan Paul is much younger and, you know, a good athlete and whatever, but damn, for Pat, that was pretty impressive. Oh, yeah. Oh, he's done it. Every time he gets in the ring, he does stuff that we're like, oh, I had no idea that was even possible. And he'll be nine months without even getting into a ring

and then come in there and do nine backflips and kick people in the head. And all of a sudden, Vince McMahon is punting a football off his ribs at WrestleMania. It's truly remarkable what he's able to do in there, I think. It is. It's incredible, man. Congrats to him for his baby and all the other good shit. He's probably home with his baby counting his money and enjoying it.

Oh, yeah. He dialed in from the hospital room, actually, in the first hour today, and he and his wife, Sam, are doing well. We'll make sure. I'm sure he will see this. But thanks again, man. Really appreciate your time. Later, boys. Have a great day. Thanks'm sure he will see this. But thanks again, man. Really appreciate your time. Later, boys. Have a great day. Thanks, Dana.

Dana White, ladies and gentlemen. Man, Dana's awesome. He said he's lost 40 pounds. I didn't know he had 40 pounds to lose. So, Tom, what is this? Tell us. What is it, Tom? What is it? Explain it like I'm live here. Yeah, explain it like I have no idea what Earth is. You know, I just had my first call yesterday.

But basically, you call in, you get your blood test taken, you do a genetics test. And, you know, they put you on the right. They tell you, like, what you can digest good, what you don't digest well. Like I saw in Dana's case, like, he didn't digest carbs well. And so that's why they told him to go on keto and whatever supplements they gave him. But they don't tell everyone to go on keto. It's based on what your body, what your blood work is. Specialized for your blood work, right?

Yeah, so that's what it sounds like. It's specialized. You don't need it, Pac. So what, you got to go? Yeah, Pac, man, just relax over there. So you got to go to a doctor or something, and then they do the blood? Yeah, you got to go to a Quest Diagnostics, I believe. Oh, what is that?

What if this guy just tells you, like, hey, you need to eat cake for every meal for the rest of your life? I believe in is that? What if this guy just tells you you need to eat cake for every meal For the rest of your life I believe in Dana Sign me up baby That would be sweet Hey we're going to need you to start eating more Nerds Clusters

Geez You said Dana had a 230 hard out I'm glad we got him out of there I didn't know that I mean you nailed the intro glad we got him out of there. I didn't know that. Look at that, AJ. I mean, you nailed the intro. You're getting him out before 230. Look at you.

Pros pro. Pros pro. I just can't believe Dana's 196 pounds. That's what he said. Yeah, and he's 53 years old. He saw him in Super Bowl. He looked fucking great. Yeah, you're right.

He did look great. Yeah, he's properly jocked. He does not look like a prop. AJ, you're already properly jacked, though, too. You talk about a guy that doesn't need – you can pay him, and he's still going to keep grinding harder than he ever has. Dana White. You know, we talk about NFL players.

Oh, you know, if you give that guy a big contract, he might get comfortable and hang out. Nope. Dana seems like he has put it into overdrive ever since they got that, what, cash influx, what, $4 billion? How many years ago to buy the place? And Dana, man, yeah, he's doing it. It seems like he's doing everything.

The Fertitta brothers are very impressive as well. I don't know if you guys have seen what they do. Oh, yeah, station casinos, baby. And it's how they got their start. AJ, I mean, you got $100 million just to go to Ohio State, so it's not as if you've been resting on your yawns lately. So I was going to ask Bobby about that, and I apologize for people.

We had Bob on for about 30 seconds. He's somewhere. He said he was waiting to go into a doctor or something. He texted me and said, sorry about the internet connection. We couldn't get it figured out. But I wanted to ask Bobby about the whole NIL situation. He's a lot more dialed into me than I am

about how Ohio State does it, but not only that, how other teams are going about their business to bring in the money to try to get these recruits and the transfer guys. I saw the Michigan center in basketball just transferred to Kansas, right? Yeah, Hunter Dickinson. Why'd he leave? Why'd he leave Michigan?

Because Kansas is better. Yeah, Michigan sucks at basketball. So that's just where we are now? Like you're just, hey, I can upgrade my squad. See ya. Probably, and get a little loot to boot. Why not? It's like down football with

Jameer Gibbs. I mean, I doubt Jameer Gibbs is going 12th overall if he stayed at Georgia Tech. Probably not. Yeah, I don't blame him. You don't have to have a reason to transfer now, right? No. Boom. It said I think for college basketball, the deadline to enter the portal is May 11th. So yeah,

it's just basically like, hey, as long as you enter the portal before the deadline, you're good to go. If you guys had the portal growing up, would you have stayed at West Virginia or Ohio State? I'm so happy we didn't have the portal. You gotta lock in. Huh? You have to kind of lock in on, hey, this is

the only place. Right, this is where the fuck I'm gonna be at. Let me figure out how to make the best of this situation. Because some of these kids, yeah, there's some kids that is working out for like the kid at Georgia Tech going to get more balls. But some of these kids are just jumping just because they're getting a couple dollars. Who's never going to

fucking play on Sunday? So this is like a cheap way out, I guess, a bailout. Oh, I'm a decent-ass college player, but I can go. I'm just shooting out of school. I'm at UConn. I can get a chance to go to georgia tech for sixty thousand dollars and be in the city of atlanta i'd rather go to georgia tech to be in the city of atlanta get paid a little bit more maybe i can meet some people but

and that might be good for you but like i i don't know how good this is going to be for college i think it's very good for us paying the athletes. But I know you only get to move one time in football, right? Is that? No. Is it one free transfer? Because you used to have to sit out of your room. The kid from West Virginia.

Slobodan Milosevic. Milosevic. Went from USC to Pitt. Now he's at BYU. What's his name? JT Daniels. JT Daniels, West Virginia. Did COVID just change it all? Did they just drop all the rules once COVID hit? Maybe.

Yeah, they got a little more relaxed with it, but also with the transfer portal, sometimes it's almost better to go. The transfer portal, I was still laughing at Slobodan, but I'll stop. Sometimes it's better to go. Look at Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts went from Bama to Oklahoma.

It's not as if he went from, you know, one place to the other because of NIL. It was before NIL. So it – They got pinched. That's why. Yeah, exactly. So that's different.

Yeah. I mean, look at old buddy, the receiver on Evie's team in Detroit. He was Ohio State, goes to Alabama. Right? And then gets drafted by Detroit. Like there's definitely – It used to work. Like it used to be much different where it was like, okay, you need to do this.

Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow had to transfer to play. It wasn't – yeah, Cam Newton. It wasn't as if he, you know, decided, oh, I'm not playing my freshman year. I need to get out of here and go to a different school because they're going to give me $60,000 to Pac-Man's point. Like they transferred so that they could be starters or get a little more pub, and sometimes it's that necessary.

Yeah. If those guys get benched, Burrow, Hertz, it's not as if they're in the NFL. If they just stay at Bama and Ohio State, then just graduate. Kenneth Walker went Wake Forest to Michigan State, had one great season at Michigan State, first-round pick. I think that's a really effective way for the portal. I think that was great for him. Yeah, and that's why the NIL has changed because it's not just,

hey, I'm going to transfer to get a better opportunity. It's like, hey, I'm going to transfer because I'm going to get more money right now in my pocket instead of having a better opportunity. And with the NIL, that's why, especially for Ohio State, how much does it help Ohio State that Marvin Harrison Jr. just isn't doing NIL bullshit and that he's strictly there to play football? Bro, that's bullshit. He's getting paid.

Oh, I bet he's getting paid. I bet he's getting money, but he's not seeking any of this shit out, I doubt. Yeah, he's not all over the place doing it. Yeah, he's quietly doing it. Yeah, quietly doing it, right. So Ohio State is a wide receiver university. Yeah, he's quietly doing it. So, yeah, quietly doing it, right? Yeah. So, Ohio State is a wide receiver university. Yeah, factory. Any receiver that's starting for Ohio State is getting paid.

Let's go ahead and say that. Yeah, they've had a first-round pick, what, in the last four years? No, I'm buying college. Yeah. No, but that's what I'm saying. The factory, yeah. Yeah. So, like, this NIL thing is a big thing.

Now, as far as Seacon going out and trying to get different deals, I don't think he's doing that. But this is a guy who's the first one at the stadium and the last one to leave. Bingo. I'm quite sure he's getting a nice little bag. Yeah. I mean, I thought, isn't he working at Carpenter Air Conditioning and Heating and Plumbing this summer?

Oh, is he? I think I did see a big, tall, like, 6'4 guy wearing the Carpenter shirt installing a nice HVAC unit over near campus. Yeah, I saw that somewhere. He went to – I thought I saw it on his Instagram. He went to trade school last summer so that he could get certified because he wanted his NIA deal to be with Carpenter HVAC. And Suns.

Yeah, and Suns. Yeah. I wish you guys lived around here. Every once in a while we'll see – I don't know how many vans Bobby has wrapped in his hole for the business, but every once in a while, we'll see it. And one of my little kids, oh, dad, look at Uncle Bobby. He's on that thing right there. It's the same one we sold the other day.

Yeah, well, that's the problem because if we lived there, I would drive one of those. Can you ask the general if I could wrap my car in a carpenter HVAC? Yeah, carpenter. I think he might even he might throw you a few bucks to wrap your cars really gas well see how many he wants wrapped then yeah digs you got a big you got a big month ahead if you're gonna wrap your car you're gonna be getting on this dr gary bracket yeah v dr gary v's stack pickles but yep pickles. Pac, I made a reference to that, Pac.

I guess Dana told a story how he got his blood work done, and this doctor told him, what, you have like six years to live or something? He told him when he was going to die or something like that. And I don't know how he's reversed that or how now the guy says your blood work's not showing that. But I think that's what kind of scared Dana. And then he got into this program, and now he feels great and he looks good, I guess. I would be fucking petrified if someone told me I only had six years yeah would you want to know

no do you want to know when you die no I don't want to I don't want to know none of that you you could tell me what to stop doing hey man these tests came back you need to stop fucking dipping don't fucking tell me that hey would you want to know when you die? Are you going to die, AJ? No, because I don't plan on dying. So no, I don't want to know. Just because everyone else did it doesn't mean I have to. Amen. Well said, brother.

I'm happy. Like I said, I'm almost 40. Honestly, this is awesome. I tell you guys all the time, this is the good old days, man. I love where I'm at right now. I love doing this. I don't want to die. Absolutely not.

But with that being said, I don't plan on it either. Just because everyone else does it doesn't mean I have to. Exactly. What if something gets invented in the next 20 years? He already has it with Uncle Wexy. True. That's one thing, man. Those billionaire people, they're all trying.

They're in a race to try to prolong their life, try to prolong their life, try to prolong, come up with something, invest enough money into some kind of product or something that can at least give them more years on the earth, right? I didn't know that. So I stayed in Columbus, what, a few weeks ago? I didn't know that whole city,

like every hospital was named after the Wexies. Well, they donate money to certain hospitals, yeah. Your name will get on there. They have to to get their product. What's the product? to certain hospitals. Yeah. Your name will get on there. They have to get their product. What's the product? You tell us. Humans. I don't know.

I'm trying to figure it out. Well, just go walk down the street and knock on his door. You'll see. You'll see. You'll see. Not as easy as you think to get to that guy. I think I've never met him. But, hey, if there is anybody on the 5-Hour Energy phone line, let them know

before we wrap up this program. We might get to a few callers if they are out there. You can pop the number up for people and Con Man can tell the good people what the number may be. And a con, if you have any live reads, you can get to those whenever you need as well. Absolutely. Thank you, AJ. I do have one.

Today's show is sponsored by Bobby Carpenter or Age Racking S is sponsored by Bobby Carpenter, HVAC and Sons. Okay. Nice. Call Bobby Carpenter. Follow him on Twitter and send him something nice. Maybe a tweet. Maybe your resume.

Whatever you feel is necessary. And that will help out Bobby very much. I believe the phone number is 1-833-DA-DOME. Or 4-DA-DOME. 4-DA-DOME. Okay. 1-833-DA-DOME or 4-DA-DOME. 4-DA-DOME. Okay, 1-833-4-DA-DOME. Okay, yeah. Zito, if there's anybody out there you think is good, you can pod them up.

We can chat with them. Zito said something about number five. I think he said number five is good. Mitt. Oh, the fifth caller. Yes. Yeah. Mitt, go ahead and pod them up.

Pod them up, Mitt. Oh, I hear him. Someone's there. Someone's there. Oh. The fifth caller. Yes. Yeah. Mick, go ahead and pot him up. Pot him up, Mick. Oh, my hair. Someone's there. Someone's there. Oh. Someone's there. Hello, sir. You're on the program, sir.

Who are you? This is Nick from Texas. All right, Nick. Nick from Texas. What's up, bud? Nothing much. I just wanted to shout out and say thank you for taking my call. But Pat and Samantha, congratulations. you're going to be great parents i just i'm wishing you guys nothing but the best

thank you sir thanks thank you for the call i appreciate that sir i think they would appreciate that as well he's getting choked up well one question one question i was going to ask you is who did you flip off when your infamous you you know, flip off thing and Pac-Man Jones, uh, Vince Young actually have a $5,000 to cheesecake factory every month. AJ does. Pac, we'll let you start Pac.

What is that? What was that rumor about Vince Young and cheesecake factory? Um, he loved cheesecake factory. That is a, that is true. Um, best appetizers ever.

I didn't get to see the receipts about how much you would spend. What would you guess? I don't know. $5,000 at one restaurant a month is a fucking lot. It is. Absolutely. Fuck was he eating? A fucking steak every other hour?

I mean, what? That would be the biggest menu in the game. Did he order for 20 every night? Did he have a bedroom upstairs or what? No, I don't know. 5,000 a month. He should have had a fucking room there. But you saw him eating it a lot?

He did eat it a lot. Okay, so if he spends 100 bucks a day. I mean, their menu is so big, you could order every day. Good. It's close. Something new every single day, and you still haven't even tried the whole menu there. The menu is so big. They used to have – there were receipts floating around online.

I don't think they're still out there anymore. Pack, allegedly, he was buying, like, King Louis shots there. Oh, yeah. Oh, shit. Yeah, he spent definitely $5,000 on one. Okay, so that's why. You factor in the booze, not just the food. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

AJ, who were you flipping off? Oh, it was a joke. It was my linebacker coach. So I got a sack on Sam Bradford, and right before, it was a blitz, and I was coming second. He even said in my speaker, hey, don't miss the freebie, like he was joking with me. Like, hey, this might come open.

And so I got it, found him, boom. It was all a joke. And then, yeah, I got fined and whatever. It got picked up. I mean, i'd flicked off other people that just didn't get caught on camera that one was the first one to really get some good camera time yeah they usually never film the guy who gets the sack so it makes sense you fucked him off did you still have long hair then and why'd you cut your hair i'm not gonna

play this game with you con i can see where you're trying to go i don't know what you're trying to do hey i swear normally i don't think i had i don't know if I had long hair or not, but, no, I chopped my hair off a while ago. I love Pat Tillman. I grew it out for that dude and loved him. And then Jen chopped it off. So, yeah. And didn't you cut it because Bob Domofsky said in a column

you look like an asshole with that long hair? Wasn't me. Did he really? No. I don't know. No. I definitely got people – I've told you guys, though, my senior year in college i

had people in the media reach out to me and tell me to cut my hair oh you look like a punk or a thug if you want to get post-season awards and that just made me grow my hair longer it's like you're an idiot come on now but why why did you cut it though i knew and you know you just alluded why because i wanted to because oh it was just a matter i wanted to cut it because it's a lot of work and then oh yeah um i still we started our whole own our own foundation everything with it you just alluded to me. Why? Because I wanted to. Oh, it was just a matter of I wanted to cut it because it's a lot of work. Oh, yeah. We started our own foundation and everything with it now that we do with the James Cancer Hospital and all this stuff.

Well, Clay Matthews came in and he had much better hair than you did, so you were kind of just playing second fiddle anyway. Oh, so that's where you're getting. I've said many times, Clay has beautiful hair, still does. Absolutely. My hair was long and ratty and sweaty. Clay's hair just naturally flowed and had great volume. What's he doing these days?

He's just sitting in his basement playing video games and he refuses to speak, right? Isn't that what you said? No. Did I say that? I don't remember that one. I think he's out working the land wherever he lives. I think Clay's out there somewhere working outside

all the time. He loves it. Clay's from – was born – well, he was actually born in Cleveland, I believe, when his dad was playing for the Browns. But he grew up out in L.A. in that area. But he's like – Clay's like a – he wants to be like an outdoorsman, farmer. He loves to bow hunt, does all that stuff. Why didn't you ever get into that? Just not your cup of tea?

I did in high school. Why you pepper me, Conrad? I'm just fucking, I'm just asking questions. No, you got some, there's some kind of motive behind it, but that's fine. There isn't a motive, dude. I did hunt in high school a little bit. My teacher, Dan Dillman, he was the man, my homeroom teacher. I used to go hunting with him right after Thanksgiving.

Even through college, I'd go with him. Never bow hunting, though. Always a gun. Hell yeah. Nice. Yeah. Never yeah. Never deer. It was always like grouse, pheasant, rabbit, all that kind of stuff. You went after the ruffled?

The ruffled. Ruffled grouse. No, I'm not sure what that's from, but no. It's from birds. Is it ruffled grouse? It's called a ruffled grouse? Are you a big bird hunter? No, but I am pretty well versed

in aviation. He doesn't know about ruffled grouse, but we can all tell. We got some ruffled feathers in Ohio right now. Good lord. That's kind of a smart answer. Any questions? What is happening right now, Con? Someone please tell me what the hell is happening.

Nothing. I'm trying to figure it out, too. Nothing. Sounds like Con's getting a little mouthy over there. Conman has been mouthy. He's been mouthy all week. I was born mouthy, and I don't know why you think that I got some angle with you, and I'm just asking questions, okay, pal?

Because we know there's always an angle, Conman. There's never an angle. I have no angle at any time. I just am an idiot and screw things up. So those little things that your guys' feet are resting on, your little tootsies are resting on those things. Are those made specifically for this when your chair's up high and your legs don't reach the ground?

I think so. Yeah, they are. You can adjust them. It's actually kind of fun to bounce on. It is. Keep the circulation going like the old people. You can adjust them. It's actually kind of fun to bounce on. It is. Keep the circulation going like the old people. You can kind of work on a bunch of stuff.

Keep the feet quick and still loose. What's that Hulk Hogan thing down there? What are those called? Those were big when I was a kid. Pillows? Yeah, little Hulk Hogan pillow brother. Remember, they were always shaped like the person's body and you could get all the little different wrestlers around. Yeah, those things were awesome. That is not one of those. I would kill for a life-size Hulk Hogan body pillow.

That'd be sick. Do they have those somewhere? Probably at Hogan's Beach Shop. Not at Bed Bath & Beyond. No. In Clearwater, Florida, right? That's where he's at. Absolutely.

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Mitt. Mitt. Mitt. Mitt. Mitt. Mitt. Mitt. Mitt. it what the his little back room no what do you mean yeah if you feel like there's there's got a mic are we spying on you mike yeah get on that mic man uh yeah this is a little weird but it's kind of cool i mean i i feel like what's weird about it what do you mean what's weird you don't feel like you can you can peruse the website you normally produce because there's a camera i used to be able to beat my fucking baloney you know i'd be a pretty aggressive decision

beating it in the office but uh, no, I just checked Twitter. You've seen guys do it. That's all I do. Who have you seen do it? Who have you seen do it? Jeffrey Toobin. Toobin, yeah. First name that came up.

That was in the office, though. His name, I couldn't pick up his name when I first said it. I wanted to say Toobin, but it took me an extra three seconds to register the name. Sorry, it's been a while. Allegedly. Allegedly. No, no, no, it was on camera. That was on camera.

True. But was it on camera for everybody to see or just like the group of 25 he was on a Zoom with? I think that was enough because it got out. Yeah. Did he get fired for that? I remember they brought him back and there was that interview where the lady was like, so you were caught

beating your dick on Zoom with everybody. Tell us more. And then he had to explain himself. It's a tough gig for that female journalist, whoever the person that has to ask those tough questions. Is that how you would have phrased it, Con Man,

if you were interviewing him? No, I would have been much more professional. What would you have said? Let's hear it. How would you have phrased that to kind of ease him into it so he didn't really get thrown off and kind of just shut down. I would have said something along the lines of like, so, Mr. Tube and Tubes, if I may, it feels as though you masturbate 10 to 15 times a day and you just couldn't wait. Is this what happens here?

Is that why? Because, hey, there's no worries having a problem like that. I roomed with Bobby Carpenter in college. He had a very similar problem. That's probably – I would have, you know, thrown someone else in there, given him a little slack, maybe have him take it and run, you know. Okay. I mean, yeah, that's why – you know what, Conor?

You might be put in that position someday where you're going to have to do a professional interview with a guy like that. I can confidently say I will never be put in that position. where you'll have to do a professional interview with a guy like that. I can confidently say I will never be put in that position. Maybe, though. Never say never. I can confidently say that will never happen. Unless I'm interviewing you, AJ. So you tell me.

You're quick. You're quick. You're quick, Conman. Good job. Can you pod somebody up? Yeah, let's go on line six. Rod from Bama. Ooh.

Rod from Bama. What's on your mind, pal? Hot Rod. Hey, Jay, Pac-Man boys. Roll Tide. How we doing? Not so much right now, though. Hey, first, I want to give a shout-out to Pat.

I'm glad everything went smooth. Hell, yeah. I know you're going to be an awesome dad. But I got a question for Coach Lou Holtz. I was just wondering if you've wrote Nick Saban a letter about their new offensive coordinator, Tommy Reese, and their new transfer quarterback, Tyler Buechner. I could give two cents about Tyler Buechner.

I saw his transfer there. I never heard of the guy before. He couldn't cut it the other day. We couldn't hack it as a fighting Irish player. Tommy Reese, now he's a ball player. Okay, Tommy Reese was a ball player. He was one of the best quarterbacks

at Notre Dame. Kind of reminds me of a little bit of a hybrid Jimmy Clawson, you know, another guy who was supposed to take Notre Dame to the promised land. He looks like the kind of guy who's just going to get fucking chewed out time and time again by Coach Saban. So I hope he understands that.

I hope he's ready for it. He probably was because that asshole Brian Kelly was yelling until his face was beet red at him all the time. So he probably gets it. But I don't know if this guy's still on. I'd like to ask you what you think about that cheating son of a bitch head baseball coach down in Alabama who was fixing games and cheating. And now he got fired, and he's bringing a big old pile of shame on the roll-tied curtain down there.

That's fucking despicable. He's gone. He's gone? That is a big deal, though. What did happen? That's what it was? Alabama head baseball coach got fired? Yeah, throwing fucking games down deal, though. What did happen? That's what it was? Alabama head baseball coach got fired? Yeah, throwing fucking games down there, man.

Remember Ohio halted betting because of suspicious activity? It turns out the suspicious activity was the head ball coach. Jeez. Do we have any details about what he was doing? No, I read the thing today, and it basically said that the AD hasn't really made – he just addressed that he got fired, and the assistant coach is now the interim head coach. But he said he wasn't making any more comments about it at this time.

Greg Sankey also said something, how the SEC is going to look into it and all that kind of stuff. But, yeah, something's definitely amok if they actually shit-can this guy. Bama Athletics has been through it this year. Jeez Louise. So what could it – okay, if you could hypothetically – what could he have done to where Ohio all of a sudden sees that and they say, hey, no more bets on this game.

What kind of irregular behavior was that? It said it was stemming from like last Saturday's saturday's game against lsu or something they lost eight to six but who knows he could have you know tipped someone off like hey in this inning we're gonna bring in this guy to pitch who absolutely fucking stinks out of our bullpen there's no way he's gonna be able to hold a lead or there's no way you know or whatever the case may be but i don't know i mean he had to be feeding someone something if he got fired. There's got to be a smoking gun somewhere. There were just really big bets placed against Alabama baseball,

essentially, that was the unusual activity on the games. Yeah, I feel like what Ty said is probably the most likely scenario, right? Like they put in a bullpen pitcher that sucks, and then what? Or he was good. just or or he was good either yeah or he was good but he just told him there's like a couple pitches and then what he just has guys pinch hit who can't hit shit and then there's just no chance of them winning yeah i wondered because i what i did see is somebody else talking about they're like well you know college baseball doesn't tend to get a bunch of action when it comes to the online game

so i would imagine some big old bets coming in. How do you not expect to get caught, though? How do you think you can get away with it? Yeah. Makes no sense. I mean, people don't think about consequences. Because you gamble. Yeah.

It's an AI. It's an AI around here, people. I would have blamed AI. You should have blamed AI, shouldn't you? Don't you dare blame AI. That thing will come. That'll hear it. It'll hear it. And then it'll come and? Don't you dare blame the AI. That thing will come. That'll hear it. It'll hear it.

And then it'll come and fuck your life up forever. Fucking AI. How would you like to not be able to get into your home tonight? That would stink. Yeah, AI will lock that shit down. That would stink. You got to- What about my doors that aren't like-

It's not electronic. How's he going to- You going to change all my locks, AI? Yes. You bet. Yep. He'll hire Bobby Carpenter to come out. I'll break the window.

Nope. I'll break the window. Go right in. Nope. He changed the windows to bulletproof glass. Also called a. I'll tell him thank you. And I'll climb in the chimney and say thank you for making my house much safer.

See, jokes on you. They put fucking spikes in the chimney. Yeah. You could probably use your submarine. They fucking knew you'd be down the chimney. Jokes on me. Yep. It is.

Have fun living in a hotel. Oh, wait. Your credit cards don't work because AI canceled them. That's real, man. Not AI. Just people in general. The internet. That can happen, man.

It can take your whole identity, can't it? Whoever you are. People, I mean, that documentary about that kid who was just selling drugs and making his own. Shiny flakes. Shiny flakes. Boom. There's just a dark web thing where people just explain how you can hack.

You guys revere that kid way too much. No, it's just he opened up the world of the dark web and hackers to us a little bit more. He got caught. He stunk. He did. Is he in jail for a while? I believe so. He got out and then he's back in.

I think he served his time and served his time was on probation while on probation. I believe he got caught up in some more interesting activities. And then he is back. It was the doc, right? It was the end of the doc. End of the doc. Yeah. They brought it up how they're investigating him again.

So I'm assuming. He was just what he was going on like Silk Road and buying like bulk drugs. And then he was selling them, shipping them out, selling them and shipping them out from his own place. Oh, yeah. Bingo. Like you're going to probably get caught eventually. You'll get caught eventually. bulk drugs and then he was just shipping them out, selling them and shipping them out from his own place, right? Bingo. You're going to probably get caught eventually. You'll get caught eventually.

Yeah, a lot of Bitcoin. He had like multiple Bitcoin wallets and they didn't recover all of them. They only got a couple. Bitcoin's still going. It's still going strong. 28,000. So yeah, it's not going to go anywhere, right?

I mean, I don't know. I feel like the people who had it when it was at like 60, 70,000 probably no matter what are not going to go anywhere, right? I mean, I don't know. I feel like the people who had it when it was at like $60,000, $70,000, probably no matter what are just going to count this as a loss. But, I mean, anyone who got in $1,000 less, like, yeah, they made a killing. Yeah, I don't know. There's all the different, like, yeah. Is old buddy in jail yet?

The guy that was down in the Bahamas and they're all banging each other? Oh, Sam Bankman Freed? Yeah. I don't know. I thought he was on like a house arrest, but he lives in like an absurd complex. That was quite a minx situation going on down there, wasn't it? Yeah, it's still fishing. What?

Minx. Oh. Can you define exactly what you mean? Sexually active. Yeah, they said that. Weren't they all doing it? They were down there like- On the prowl. Weird parties. On the prowl for sex.

And they were coding and calling and getting more money. People donate more money or I guess invest more money and then they were all just fornicating with each other. I'm surprised she's still alive. What are you saying? I'm just saying there's always something sketchy going on.

Where? Everywhere. Especially with crypto. Thank you, Pat. I know. I know, man. It's a scary word out there. I know there's another balloon flying over Hawaii. Is that correct? That's right. We got another one. Shoot it down. Did we shoot it down? Did we get it down yet? I don't know if it's down yet. I saw the report yesterday. I'm not sure if there's been

an update. They are tracking it. The U.S. military. They said it was Papa John. Papa John. Papa John and a hot air balloon. John Schnatter? That's what they said. He's doing the around the world in 80 days like Jackie Chan and Owen Wilson. Shanghai night. Richard Branson tried to fly around the world in a balloon, didn't he?

And again, it went down. I believe so, yeah. Really? There was a dock. There was a dock. It was a balloon, but it was like a full capsule under the balloon that he was living in. It was, he ended up, in. Something happened with the wind. He had to go crash land somewhere.

He's an absolute maniac. What is that dude? Branson? 70-something probably. High 70s. Looks great. He's always promoting his stuff. Virgin has cruises now.

They have cruise ships. I don't know how the dude keeps doing it. Was he also Virgin Mobile? Yeah. With actual phones? Yep. Virgin Records. Yeah. You name it. He's done it anything virgin islands no i don't think that's the case but he does have an island necker island is the one that

he owns like a virgin madonna yeah i think he wrote that song that was like a prayer oh my bad i did i got my richardanson lyrics wrong. He wrote that one? Yeah. Yeah, Madonna wrote it about him. Madonna was married to Dennis Rodman for a little bit, correct? Correct. I believe so, yes. Dennis Rodman has lived a life. That dude is unbelievable. He was on the cover of Sports Illustrated in a wedding dress, wasn't he?

Yes, he was. He's got a movie coming out before too long here. What do you mean, a documentary or what? No, an actual movie with the dude who was in Creed 3 with Michael B. Jordan. He's playing him and it's about, I think, the weekend he went to Vegas when the Bulls were in the playoffs.

And it's an actual movie though, okay? Correct. You think it'll be good? Fuck yeah. It better be. I don't know. Anytime that happens. I mean, Dennis Rodman. Who was married to Carmen Electra, too?

Yeah, he was in Vegas with her. This dude just got around, didn't he? And then he was on Celebrity Apprentice back in the day. I remember I was a big fan of him. He was in the freaking NWO, dude. He was. You're right. Did Michael Cole call any of his matches?

Probably. I don't know, because the NWO was WCW I didn't know if they came over I didn't know when they brought them together Dude he fucking put Karl Malone through a goddamn table At Bash at the Beach Did he really? Yeah

I'm gonna have to go brush up on some of that stuff I don't know if Bob Backlund was in that match I probably didn't see it I think he was No it was Carl Malone and DDP brother versus Hollywood, Hulk Hogan and Dennis Rodman. Thank you, brother.

DDP yoga, right? He's still killing it with all that stuff. Absolutely. Man. All right, guys. Well, we're going to start to wrap this sucker up. Today's Thursday. Today's Thursday. It's not Friday, even though it does feel like a Friday. I'm not exactly sure what the program is tomorrow. If anything is happening,

you guys can let me know if you know anything. We're off tomorrow. Okay. Congratulations, Pat and Sam. Obviously, this is a giant, giant day. May 4th forever will be the birthday of their young daughter, which we do not know the name yet, but super pumped for them.

It did seem, didn't it? It kind of caught us off guard, didn't it? I thought we had some more time, too. I was preparing myself, like, okay, here we go. Like, we got some more time. We got a couple more weeks, and all of a sudden that text pops up. Here we go. Yeah, I was not expecting to wake up to that text at all.

But, no, it is awesome news. And when he came on here, everyone seemed great. Like, Sam was joking around, too. And, you know, it's just awesome that everybody's healthy and that it happened now. I'm sure. I'm not sure. Like you guys can probably speak on it.

Is it easier when it just kind of pops up out of nowhere instead of the planned date? And it's just like, all right, here we go. We're off. It did not happen like that for us. My wife got induced. So we knew. I was three weeks early. I wish I would have had like a go bag and stuff like that ready. Okay. But other than that

I was pumped that it was actually like the birth part was over with. Yeah. It's awesome. I was damn near 14 weeks early. Yeah so that's a whole different ball game. But the good thing. Yeah. My wife had the baby the next day. She got the

indulge in a couple of extracurricular activities. Hell yeah. What? A little earlier than we thought. That's awesome. Well, boys, I appreciate you guys. Pac, everybody there, obviously.

Thank you, guys. This is fun. Tomorrow we'll be off. Monday we'll be back. Who knows what it all looks like. I know Pat and Sam, what's today, Thursday? You usually keep the kid at the hospital a couple days at least, and then that's the big deal when you've got to strap the baby into the car

and figure that whole situation out, the whole new world, and then all of a sudden it becomes like second nature within like a day or two. So it's an exciting time for both of them. So congrats again to them. Appreciate them for everything that they do. Very, very happy for them and their young little daughter it's awesome we have a new member of the family and we're all super pumped so boys appreciate it i will be going to the derby here enjoy a little bit let's travel so i'll try to

stay awake on the drive down i know i will because the sun well three o'clock oh i got plenty of time yeah you're good i got plenty of time so we're good to go so everybody thank you for watching we appreciate everybody we'll be back on monday we'll see you guys later