The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 899 - Shams Charania, Darius Butler, Ian Rapoport LIVE In The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: May 8, 2023

On today’s show, Ian Rapoport, AJ Hawk, and the boys fill in for Pat while he is on paternity. They chat about Rapsheet and AJ’s weekend at the Kentucky Derby and give full recaps of their time in Louisville and at Churchill Downs, plus all the other things floating around in the NFL and what to look forward as we move into this post NFL Draft purgatory for the NFL. Next, Pat stops by in the ThunderDome to chat about how parenthood is so far, and checking in with everyone (53:37-1:27:55). Next, NBA Insider for Stadium, The Athletic, and co-host of Fanduel TV’s Run It Back joins the progrum to give an update on the NBA Playoffs, the Mat Ishbia/Jokic situation, his feud with Dillon Brooks’ agent, the other playoff series, and much more (1:30:39-1:45:51). Later, 9 year NFL veteran at Defensive Back, host of the Man-To-Man podcast, and friend of the show, Darius Butler joins the program to chat about his weekend at the F1 race in Miami, his experience and thoughts, the Florida Panthers taking a 3-0 against the Toronto Maple Leafs in the playoffs, the NBA Playoffs, and his thoughts about what’s happening in the NFL (1:54:24-2:25:29). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome, welcome, welcome to the Pat McAfee show. Come on into the Thunderdome. I am the insider. Why didn't you guys tell me you were going to do that? Well, it worked out. That's why we didn't tell you. God. It always works out.

I'm Ian Rappaport. Hell yeah. What's up? What's up, Ian? We're doing this again, somehow. Appreciate you guys having me back. I'm appreciative more of all the other guys that canceled. I thought that was pretty cool.

You were eight or nine on the list. Which is fine. Yeah, sure. On the list is, it's like my horse at the Derby. Did not win, but happy to be in the Derby. You were in the Derby. Jace's charge. Jace's road.

We are not alone here. Besides me, you, you, you. We also have you. No, I know your names. No, you don't. It's okay. On the left over here, the illustrious Boston Connery. I got one more. Ty Schmidt in the middle.

Two for two. And on the right, I don't see a name. Tone Diggs. Let's go. middle. Wow. Two for two. And on the right. I don't see a name. Tone Diggs. Let's go. AJ Hawk over there is also joining us. AJ, what's going on? What's up, Ian?

Where did your horse finish? I didn't exactly see. Not either. Nice. No. I would say, you know, what happens is when he came out real strong, real fast. None of us had a horse. None of us had a horse. None of us had a horse run the race.

So, hey, you already won this. True. And that is what everyone tells me, right? It's like, well, you know, it's just great to have a horse. And that is true. And the whole experience was amazing, and I'll get into it. But, like, you know, and we sort of psyched ourselves up. We're like, all right, it's fine.

Like, he's not going to win. Just run a good race. Like, it's great to be here. We're on the rail. But it's fine. He's not going to win. Just run a good race. It's great to be here. We're on the rail. But he could win. But he could win. You had that in the back of your brain, right? Yes.

And then you see him get out to a strong start. And then I'm like, oh, my God. Maybe this will be a thing. And then by the end, he was not going to win. And the jockey kind of pulled up a little bit to make sure. What? No, make sure he's healthy. The jockey?

Come on. You got to lay it all he's healthy. Make sure he's healthy. Jockey? Come on. You got to lay it all on the line. Florent Giroux? He went to run another day. You chose a French jockey? I didn't choose him. Brad Cox, the trainer, chose him. And he actually won a bunch of races that day.

Just not... Not the big one. The jockey. Not the one that only matters. Brad Cox is cool. He wears a hat. Right. He does wear a hat. The jockey. Not the one that only matters. Brad Cox is cool. He wears a hat. Right. He does wear a hat.

He looks sweet. AJ, how come you didn't see, you were at the derby, how come you didn't see Ian's horse in the race? I wasn't sure exactly at the moment what Ian's horse the name was. And I don't know if you know this. I don't know. Ian probably had different seats. Well, yeah, you had owner seats.

You're probably in some weird club that I don't even know about. Everyone was standing up, and I'm trying to stand on top of tables. There's people in front of me. I mean, Jimmy Graham was in the group I'm with. Jimmy's nine feet tall. So bad. That was nice of him to fly you guys to the movie. Yeah, yeah.

That would have been sweet, wouldn't it? Jimmy flew himself. He's a commercial pilot now. Did he actually? Wait, no, he's not. Yeah, he flew himself. Yes, he is. He flies helicopters, aerobatics, float plane.

He flies everything. So, AJ, I'm looking at that. And that's a nice picture. That's the pink carpet. That's for Oaks Day, by the way. You can see everyone. Who's in the sweet pink jacket? That's Stevanta Adams.

Stevanta Adams. What about who's taking a knee? Not Bakhtiari, which his knees look good. Yeah, that's the other bach tiare that's andrew younger brother oh yeah the bach tiare bow is that what they call that well the third one's right below right up top the oldest brother eric between you and jimmy no far right between me and jimmy's matt flynn famous lf yeah packer superstar aj did you bring your uh cool new lighter that you debuted this weekend or no?

That thing was awesome. Did I bring it? My watch lighter? Yeah, it was on in that pick at some point. I used it multiple times, man. That thing came in pretty handy at times. No, I mean, did you bring it to you? Is it in the attic so you can show us or no?

Oh, it is not in the attic, actually. I understand what's happening there. His watch is a lighter. His watch is a lighter. Who got you that? Amazon. What do you mean? It pops up on my algorithm. They know exactly what's happening there. His watch is a lighter. His watch is a lighter. Who got you that? Amazon. What do you mean? It pops up on my algorithm. They know exactly what they're doing. The thing was like 20 bucks too. That's what's amazing. I have two of them.

Really? Jeez. Yeah, it's sweet. How many cigars did you smoke? Like over under 55? No. I don't think I had an abnormal amount. It was normal. Kind of normal derby. Maybe a little less than I normally have at the derby. A couple long days there. Ian, did you go both days, Friday, Saturday?

Yeah. I mean, we showed up Thursday, met the horse, met Jace's road, which was actually, like, such a cool experience. Brad Cox came and chatted with us, like, told us all about the training, and Jace tried to eat Leah, my wife's shirt, successfully ate her shirt. Jace. Had to, like, literally had to, like, pull her shirt away. Successfully ate her shirt. Jace. I literally had to pull her shirt away. Jace is a goodie.

He's hungry. Jace is a dog. Hungry horse. Look on his ass, man. Did you put that together, Ian? Or someone put that together for you? That was good. So the way it happened, I appreciate that.

The way it happens is Rick Soto, my suit guy, and my wife are on a group text with me. They're like, hey, she'll say, here's my outfit. And he'll be like, all right, cool. I can work with that. And then they'll come up with a suit. And I'm literally just like a bystander. So at some point they'll be like, Ian, what do you think?

I'll be like, oh, yeah, no, that's good. Right. Sure. So that's what we came up with this year. I had very little to do with it. The shoes were an amazing find by my wife. They are not J's,

though, as they say. So the internet was not that happy with the particular brand of shoes. Style of shoes. They're Nike. But I did get dragged in the comments section a little bit because they are a different type of shoe that I guess is not that

cool, but I was looking for more of the match than anything else. They look cool to me. They look cool to me, too. Yeah, and that suit's unbelievable. Your suit guy's a weapon. AJ had sweet shoes on the one day, too. I don't know if it was Derby Day or Oaks Day. You had sweet shoes on, AJ.

Those were sick, those boots. Oh, yeah, some brown and gray boots. Yeah, I like them. Those and some black ones for the Derby Day. That's the thing, Ian. You can wear whatever you want at the Derby, right? It's supposed to be this super formal thing. You could legit, I think, get away with anything and call it fashion, pretty much.

I like, so, I mean, obviously I get dressed up on TV, but in real life, this is basically what I wear most of the time. But to get dressed up in literally whatever, and the craziest stuff, people randomly stop you, like, hey, it's great shoes, really like your pattern

like great tie like there's a lot of fashion talk of course like just dudes being like and then like my wife had a cool hat on she got a lot of love for the hat you know I mean the entire fit for both of you guys was fantastic especially when AJ said he's like I'm gonna wear a

white tee and jeans pretty much and you didn't you look great so I never said that no I had to scramble to get everything together yeah you don't have to wear a tie if you don't have to like I used to I've gone through the ring where I'd be like okay I gotta wear a tie and do all this no do whatever you want AJ did you know what Ian said he was sweet AJ did you notice uh I think this was an off-air conversation but here we are on air uh Ian said he was hiding in the garbage can near where you guys were to see if he could get some scoops from Aaron and you guys at Devontae and stuff. Did you notice Ian in the garbage can?

If Ian was in the garbage can, Ian, you did a great job. I did not see what happened. I did not see you, but you probably got some good info. I don't know. I was actually thinking about it. So, you know, everyone sort of asks the same thing. Oh, you know, it's – I mean, I don't think Brady was there this year, but did he go to F1?

Probably F1. Yeah, probably F1, yeah. But like, oh, Rodgers will be there and that whole crew, and like, you're going to run into them. And like, AJ, you I would have been thrilled to run into. We would have shared a cigar, not shared a cigar. You should have came up. You should have came up where I was.

You are, that's the one thing about Derby. You can't, like, we were at the Jockey Club. We were in a cool spot. But someone else wanted to meet us. You got to have the... They are vigilant. If you are not where you're supposed to be, you cannot visit. Yeah, I don't need some drunk college asshole stumbling into where all the owners of the horses are sitting.

I mean, I don't... Right. And then, yeah, me. I assume you're talking about me no i'm saying like i mean when they like you know obviously but when they like pan around churchill downs and you see how many people are actually there like it is insane spectacle i i was like this is our third to aj how many times you've been man i i probably seven eight times now maybe okay yeah so you're veteran even more than

me i've been three and there was a lot of people there and i was ready for it and you know as part of the the group that owned again very small part of jace's road we got to participate in the walk over which is something that basically like before the race like five o'clock you go meet down by the stables and as the horses walk over, you walk with them. Hell yeah. And I was kind of ready for it. And they're like, you have no idea. And I'm like, look, I've been to Super Bowls.

I've been to big things. Even like I was talking about the 10 minutes before the draft is wild. It's tense. It's awesome. There's so many people. I love the atmosphere. I was not ready for this. And it's funny because they were like, my wife and a couple we're friends with where we live,

and they're like, all right, so I think it's just you. We're not going to have room for your wife probably and your friends probably not. And I'm like, we're just all going to come. So they all went with us, and they were like, if security tries to stop you, you are allowed to be here. Just keep walking. Cool.

So we get into the track and it is mud, by the way. It's literally mud. So my shoes all dirty, which was great. Oh, no. I know. I was a little annoyed about that. And then like you keep walking and then you see a wall of people. And oh, my God, it is so many people.

Like, almost overwhelming. And like, you look out and there's just like, it was like, I don't get shook by anything, and I was shook by the atmosphere. It was crazy. If you are an owner next year, are you going to bring track shoes so you can change back into your dress shoes later? Yeah, that's the move. Maybe some shit kickers.

Ooh. That actually's the move. Maybe some shit kickers? Ooh. That actually is the move. We're with Lindsey Zarniak. Yep. She brought cowboy boots. Smart. Smart move. That's the move.

Is the walking that big of a pain in the ass? Not what you just showed, but actually getting to the track from where you're supposed to, I don't know, give your tickets or whatever the hell it's called? There's so much walking. So one of the greatest things of the Derby is Vineyard Vines has a bunch of shops, and what they sell is other ties, who didn't bring a tie.

Yeah, of course they're there. They sell flip-flops. And so there was a long line of women buying flip-flops. Get out of here. AJ, I'm sure you're I mean I was in sneakers both days who cares you're fine I'm fine you can walk the women were all flip-flops well and heels too so they couldn't right I assume this is a big heels event ditch the oh yeah but ditch the heels wear the flip-flops and then if you need a picture put the heels back on but like

all flip-flops so in terms I mean you've only been three times but was the experience any different being an owner than like when you went last year or not really? Um, I was a lot more nervous. Um, okay. I did a lot of media, which I was sort of not prepared for. And did you get enough access that you thought like, I feel an owner, you should get a ton of access. Did you get that? Yeah. I mean, seeing the horse beforehand on Thursday was awesome. Right before the race, Terry Finley, who is the kind of main owner, not like the fake owner like me, he goes to the paddock, and he's like, come on, come on. And the security was like, oh, let me see your credential. And I'm just like, you know what?

I'm fine. Like, I sat by the rail. Yeah, I'm not doing this. Yeah. I'm good. So I would have got to the paddock had I kind of like elbowed in, but I didn't. You might have already said this, and I just completely missed it.

How did you get in with this guy to start to own the horse? Like, was he a huge fan of like a team, and you gave him some inside info before, and then he was like, you know what, Rap? I got a horse, and I want you to be in on this with me. There's no inside info. Okay, fair. If I was going to give anyone inside, Rap? I got a horse, and I want you to be in on this with me. There's no inside info. Okay, fair. If I was going to give anyone inside info, which I will never do, it would be you guys.

Oh. But I won't do it. But you'll never do that. I will never do it. Like the garbage can. Yes, like the garbage can. We'll never do that. But no, so we did derby for our 10th anniversary, and it was amazing.

And then we were like, all right, we're going to go every year. Horse racing's fun. we get all dressed up and then america's best racing which is kind of like the outfit behind the stake and stardom thing invited us to belmont oh okay um and we're like oh well this is fun and the next year invited us to preakness we brought our sons pretty nasty it was amazing you ride on the port-a-johns uh we did not ride the port-a-johns although my it was so hot my children like 20 minutes in we're like can we go back to the hotel room i'm like cool we're here for another seven yeah this is this might be a dumb question but your horse that obviously got to run the derby that's a big deal not where do you go from here can you still

dump loads and you sell those loads around to people for a lot of money how's it work no no no first of all i i learned all about this um okay the one in 10 000 horses goes to stud really 10 000 so you have to win the derby basically or what or like not even guaranteed like you have to win one or multiple big races and have a lineage. Have the pedigree. Yeah, the pedigree is all of it. It's crazy. So the horse that won this year, Mage, that isn't...

If his father's father was a good horse, too, then... Then? Because I assume right away Mage is going to be fucking for the next 10 years. He could try to win the Triple Crown first, though, right? Yeah, definitely. I'm sure he's going to do Preakness. I don't think Jace's Road is going to do Preakness. We'll see.

I don't know this. We'll see. They take the tape measure out right away. It's like, okay, if this horse's penis is over 18 inches, then this thing clearly has the pedigree. We'll get it ready to go. Is that what we're talking about? I think so. There was a lot of discussion about how the actual...

You should see the fucking piece on this thing. Wait, just you wait. Here's the best part. Here's the best part. A lot of future horses come from... Wait, we've all seen it. They use a fake horse. It's like a...

You've seen it? It's a fake horse and they use a feed bag. Yeah, it's jackass. Yeah, it's some guy's job to grab the penis and put it in the fake in the sheath it was yeah really yellowstone as well that's where i saw it yeah and then one on the ranch where i work sometimes of course yeah i'm sure they uh once a year or twice a year they let the horse like do it for real just to make sure he knows like all right this is still got it still got it yeah yeah Which I assume that time is a great time. So now Mage still has to...

Obviously, it's running the next two trying to win the Triple Crown, but, like, you're telling me previous winners who only win once... Like, the guy last year who was 80 to 1... Rich Strike Dix, right. He actually came in last this year. He hasn't won anything since. Okay, so that derby... Obviously, Amazing, you won the derby, or she won the derby,

but that doesn't mean anything? It's not as if the people who own that horse are making a ton of money off of it now? Not necessarily. Okay. And for me, the deal that I have my rights or whatever cut off at possible stud, because that's the real deal. That's where all the money comes in. Like American Pharoah.

That horse is... Dotted up. Yeah, breeding for the rest of his life, making hundreds of millions of dollars. It also matters a ton how the yearlings run. So American Pharoah, its stud fee was crazy high, and then the one-year-olds kind of come out of the gate, and they're not that fast. That price drops pretty much right then and there. Oh, so he's got a weak seed.

His one-year-old's sting quit studding him up. Well, and the Derby isn't even the best horses in the world, too, right? That's the Breeders' Cup, and the Breeders' Cup are also the ones that will seed and make a bunch of money for people. Yeah, the last year, Flightline won, which was also West Point, and was immediately retired

and went to stud for, like, an astronomical fee. And that's the goal right oh yeah yeah that's the good stuff because of course yeah that i mean golden yeah yeah in life for all of us right sure yeah fucking is sweet but what i'm asking specifically about is like the breeders cup horses you just mentioned it if you win the derby like you still have to do a couple more things but if you win the breeders cup immediately hey this to do a couple more things. But if you win the Breeders' Cup immediately, hey, this is the best horse in the world. Breeders, they're older. Yeah.

So they have to go right away. Yeah, and I didn't kind of realize this. And AJ, I don't know how much you've gotten into the horse racing kind of world, but basically three-year-olds, they're like teenagers. So sometimes they will get a lot bigger and then race as fast as four-year-olds or five-year-olds or whatever. But then they can only be two years old to run the derby like i didn't know all those rules before i ever went three and then there so it's one and done i don't know like the whole all the rules all well there's a bunch of stuff going on right that i didn't hear like on tv people were talking about there's all this stuff with the track and horses dying that there's

all kind of drama surrounding this whole world I didn't know about. Yeah, and I've sort of learned about it, and that's all tragic and horrible, and I hope that it's an aberration. And the sport has gone through this in the past at Santa Anita, I think it was. Yeah, last year. Which is all tragic and terrible. I mean, I don't know enough about it. I just know the horses that i saw got treated amazing um and the it did seem like the sort of vets of the track were way more vigilant

and like conservative than the other like a horse was scratched for having a temperature yeah yeah and didn't you say it was kind of crazy though because you actually heard one of the horses get shot in the head with a shotgun right after one of the races i did not i did not hear that hey jay what'd you what'd you learn this weekend with your pals huh yeah how'd that go learn besides you not texting me and being like hey bro we're here try to sneak in but that's what i tell you what ian you know from being there so like the wristband i have to get into my area i went and tried to meet some of my friends all day like friday i tried to meet him couldn't figure it out we couldn't connect and i connected with him saturday but

then uh herbie was there with his with uh with his crew and ryan day and everything i got to walk i got to get about 10 feet away from them they wouldn't let me walk over this little bridge this little walkway to like shake their hand so i stood there and waved at him like hey sorry buddy they won't can't really get to our your area so that's kind of how it is trying to to get together and meet people that are not in the same area as you but for me it was great man i got to see a bunch of my buds a lot of my played with haven't seen in a while it was it was awesome it was a fun couple days did the uh did the bachiaris uh kind of bring up the fact like hey aaron basically everyone here is on the jets now like what about me am i am i going to

get traded or what is that i don't know what's going on with him yeah no he seemed like he people came by the time say oh go pack go or whatever and he's like well i'm the lone soldier here left in this crew that's still on that team anyway what about davante is he going to the jets that's a good question it doesn't it doesn't seem that way but you know what you never know really right we don't we never truly know so you guys talk like zero football when you go to this thing, correct? Oh, yeah. I mean, well, so Peyton was sitting at the table right next to us with his son and his wife, I believe his daughter maybe too, and Stokely.

Peyton and Aaron talked some good football. I saw them when they first connected. I was like, oh, this is going to be like one of those conversations people talk about. Oh, Peyton gave them all this advice on what it's like to go to a new team and all this so i i got overheard that whole conversation but uh that's breaking news got to see marcus freeman too as well i'm going to talk to him for a little bit nice asia that's breaking news what you just said that is that i can't believe you just shared that i think they had a film crew come probably

film them is that right i'm sure we'll see it on, you know. Peyton's Place. Maybe somewhere. Omaha Productions. Yeah. Did you go to Guy Fieri's party? Either one of you guys? I know that's kind of like the staple of race weekend.

Donkey Soft. I mean. Thanks, sir. Ian, I was not invited, so I don't know. Bullshit. I was not invited. I was invited to the Phillies and Stallions party Friday, which we did not go to. These are such a long day.

Oh, you should have. God, like, I know. Did you, AJ? No, you should. Yeah, I usually bow out of that one after the one. We go to this Barnstable party Friday, and then there's that party at this warehouse. I think it's cool.

Yeah, usually I get a ride back, but I went for about an hour or so and hung out. It was cool. Look at you. It's just like, I mean, I'm old. The whole thing's bizarre. It is weird. And, like, it's you. It's just like, I mean, I'm old. The whole thing's bizarre. It is weird. And like, it's fun. If you're into seeing random celebrities, like we ran into Bobby Flay,

my good friend. Holy shit. Super chef? Well, he's kind of a piece of shit because he tried to have sex with Ari's wife. Cook it in his house, too. Cooking bacon in his underwear. I'm not sure if this is real life or not. No, it's Entourage.

Documentary. Documentary about Mark Wahlberg's life. In his underwear. I'm not sure if this is real life or not. No, it's Entourage. Entourage. Come on. Documentary. Documentary. About Mark Wahlberg's life. Big O and Doug. All right, of course. AJ, did you do any plant drugs with everyone? Good question.

I did not do any plant drugs, but I tell you what, that's a topic of conversation for sure where people like to yell out things maybe about different plant drugs or that maybe talk about they've had- Plant medicines. Random plant medicines. You're right. My bad. It's a plant. I don't want to disrespect it. You're right. I was not, but that's a topic that people talk about a lot

in that crew and people outside that come up and want to talk to Aaron especially. They mention that a lot. So in the crew they're talking about and then when Aaron's walking around, it's like Oh! That's exactly what happens. Exactly right. You were you there, Conman?

Were you in the trash can with Ian? No, unfortunately, I also did not get invited. But maybe next year. I don't know. From what you guys talk about, it doesn't sound as fun as how it looks, at least from the outside. I love it. Like, I really love it. You're a horse owner. I mean, I'm not even talking. I love it. I don't know I love it Like I really love it Well you're a horse owner I mean I'm not even talking

I love it No I don't know What's for I mean for you guys What's like the best Big game thing you've been to Super Bowl

Super Bowl By far Boxing I've never been to Which we discussed So like fun To have fun Yeah just like Big

Big event Oh We went to A triple G fight At Madison Square Garden with Pat right after going to a Yankees playoff game a couple years ago. That one-two punch was pretty fucking sweet. I think part of it, too, is the derby itself is over so fast.

So it's like, yeah, you can watch the races that lead up to it, but you're waiting all day for a three-minute race, essentially. There's races all day. That's the thing. Well, right. But I'm saying... And if you're someone who gambles on it, you'll learn about it. If you're going and you're not... I can't imagine going to it and not gambling.

Are you allowed to gamble as an owner? Just getting fucked up all day. Jockeys are not allowed to gamble. That makes sense. And all the people in the stables who might know stuff are not allowed. Did anyone confuse you for a jockey? Jesus, Nick.

That is offensive. Nick, you guys just got here. How dare you, Nick. We were saving those for the second hour. Come on. So, as you guys probably could guess, I'm very, very hard to offend. The internet tries, but I'm very hard to offend. The amount of like, so my wife is roughly the same height as me,

but wore absolutely enormous shoes on the red carpet on Saturday. And the amount of short jokes and jockey jokes I got were astronomical. Yeah, that's ridiculous. That's just low-hanging fruit. Good for you. Own it. Own it, Ian. That's good for you. I don't care. I mean, normalize short guys

with women who are taller. What are you, 5'10"? You're 5'10", aren't you? Yeah, you know. Yeah, around there. You should have walked the red carpet on horseback. You should have. That would have been sweet. On Jace's road. Oh my God. That would have been something. But, I mean, it must be fun because AJ goes – AJ doesn't do a lot.

So, he goes seven years in a row. Not a lot of public appearances. Well, I mean, you know, it's just – everyone has to make it a priority to go. But it's an awesome – once you get there, it's cool. It's like anything else you do. No matter where you're at, no matter what you're doing, if you like the people you're with, it's going to be cool. It's going to be fun, especially when you know these people

and you don't get to hang out with them day to day, and you get to see them and hang out. It's sweet. And then there's some people I see just at the Derby that it's like, oh, I'm still like, you're friends with these people, even though you only see them once a year kind of. Was Wild Bill Turner there? Because I saw a report somewhere that he said Aaron was walking around

all weekend with huge erection. Excuse me? Can you turn to the second part? Wild Bill Turner. Oh, the lineman that's on the jets now there wasn't yes correct bootstrap bill okay so i missed the report a little bit but there was a report that says aaron's very happy right now and you were with him is he very happy he did seem very happy now i cannot confirm or deny that he was rocked up and it was erect for two straight days that i was

there we're at the track for like 10 hours each day. That'd be pretty amazing. Also, that is a question I posed to Matt Flynn. If that's happened, if he is rocked up, isn't it science that you cannot sprint with that situation going on? I don't know. We can ask Ian about that later. Aaron seems very, very happy. Depends on the tightness of your pants.

I mean, it would be logistically difficult. No, I think it's like one of those things where your body won't do it. So you're saying Aaron's the happiest he's ever been in his life? I don't know. I can't say that, but he seems very happy. He seems very content. And he had a great time, very calm, cool, calm, and collected. And I think, yeah, he had a good time.

Well, then, not Aaron. How was Alan Lazard feeling? Okay. Good. First off, the first thing I said when I saw Alan was like, gee, he's a tight end. How big is that dude? He's like 6'4". He's massive.

230, 225 he looks. He's in great shape. The dude, man, he's a lot bigger than I thought. Jimmy is an absolute giant. Is that where he is? How much bigger is he than Devontae? Right in the middle. Oh, yeah. Jimmy Graham is massive.

Devontae's not small either. Devontae's a big dude. Devontae looks just like regular size next to him. Yeah, he's not. Devontae's tall. He's jack guys. Devontae looks just like regular size next to him. Yeah, he's not. Devontae's tall. He's jacked. Devontae's a stud. I played with Devontae his rookie year, and it's cool to see him over the years. The dude's an absolute superstar, obviously.

When he came in, was he like that? Was he just immediately you knew that he was a dog? For some of these dudes, there's a lot of clips coming out of Josh Downs, the UNC wide receiver. Oh, man, I love that. In Indy, actually. And they're saying right away, like, yeah, this guy is going to be a player. Was it like that with Devontae or no?

I think so. You could tell. Even though Devontae, I don't know his rookie year, how much play he got or how many balls he got. But, yeah, from day one, like, I didn't – I don't know. When was he drafted? Ian, you know, probably. Oh, God.

14 or 15? No, I think it was earlier than that. I want to say, like that 2011 or 12 no what round was he drafted oh second round second yeah my bad second round because he's always the best example of what you know when everyone was like how could the packers not draft to receive in the first round it's like well have you seen davante ad and like i didn't know yeah i think he's one of those guys i assumed was the first round pick i really did he's one of those guys where yeah i didn't know there's no way I thought he was.

He's probably the only one that wasn't so fucking happy about it, just like Bootstrap Bill Turner said, because now he has to face Aaron. Do the Jets play the Raiders this year? I believe they do. They do play the AFC West. I think they do. It is interesting. Obviously, we spent a million years talking about the Rodgers thing and when's he going to get traded to the –

I mean, it's like it felt like literally forever, so many months. And then we're not him, so for us it's just kind of like entertainment, whatever. But for him, it's literally his life. So I cannot even imagine what this week must have been like for him. I mean, you go through the draft and you think it's going to happen, but God, who knows? I was pretty sure it was like you go through the draft and you think it's gonna happen but god like who knows like i don't like i was pretty sure it was gonna happen before the draft but like would i have been my house on it no and it's his life and now it's done and he's with the jets and he practiced at least once and now he gets to spend the week just being like i'm gonna

have fun like i i imagine like i think I think Billy Turner might have been onto something. Oh, yeah. This has to be among the happiest he's been in a very long time. Yeah, and won't sink in, I don't think, especially as a Patriots fan, and for Ty, might never. With Brady, it took not just that first year. The first year that he went, they won the Super Bowl. It still didn't feel real until maybe week eight or week nine.

Like it's not going to the first time the Patriots play the Jets. It won't feel like it's a serious, real situation here until it is like pretty heavily into the season. Like, okay, Aaron Rodgers is first of all, a New York Jet. Second of all, is not number 12 anymore. Like him wearing eight is going to be weird. Yeah. Good number though.

It is good. It is weird. But I think you're right because like the, no matter what anyone says in terms of him kind of mending things in Green Bay hadn't been great between him and the front office for probably the last three years. They can say all the bull... Everyone can, after the fact especially... Definitely not normal.

No. They got through it and I think did an amazing job of communicating and trying to get past it. But in no way was it easy. Especially when you hear about him talking glowingly about Ted Thompson and AJ has too. He mentioned on here, he's like, this isn't the same regime that drafted me. Even as Packers fans, you kind of knew it was always coming.

So it really wasn't a shock. But it does kind of – it hurts a little bit when you see all this stuff. He's the happiest he's been in a long fucking time. I know. I know. He couldn't – and then – I didn't take it that way. I guess I didn't think it that way, Ty. Is that how a lot of Packers fans think now?

I guess they took it as a shot almost. No, I didn't take it as a shot. It's just weird because you like to think in your own head, well, things couldn't have been that bad. He won back-to-back MVPs. They went to an NFC Championship. They probably should have won a Super Bowl during the COVID year. So you hope that it wasn't like that.

But then when you can kind of go look back at it from 30,000 feet, it's like, oh, yeah, there was so much animosity there. And, like, he probably was just, like, he couldn't wait to get out. And that kind of just sucks when it's, like, you know, it's your franchise quarterback, a guy you've been watching forever. Like, to think that his last couple years there, like, he was just gritting his teeth and couldn't wait to get out of there. Like, that kind of sucks.

And even still, like, I did feel like, like, I felt like with, and I would say this, like, when Boston Radio, like, EI, whatever, would felt like with, and I would say this when Boston Radio, like EI or whatever, would have me on, and they would kill me. Because they basically thought that Brady couldn't wait to get away from Bill and the Patriots. And my thought was it was a great time for both sides to break, and I think they were both happy about it. Yeah, for the Boston people, the Jimmy G feels like what started that whole thing.

Right, and that's why there's so many parallels. Like it really was, and Brady, you know, was basically like, yeah, I'm just going to play long enough where this is not going to matter. And then he did. But like the Rodgers-Packers divorce or whatever feels good for both sides. It was clean. It was respectful. Was it clean, though?

I mean, as clean as it could have been. Yeah. You know, and especially because Rodgers likes Jordan Love, so there's no weirdness there. And, like, you know, I think it probably took a little longer than Rodgers would have liked, just the actual trade stuff. But those are negotiations, so, like, they happen when they – I don't know.

I don't know if it was clean just because of the 90 10 retired um playing thing like if it was clean he would have retired well and even like his introductory press conference with the jets he was talking about how like you know gutekens didn't make enough of an effort to try to like contact him and reach out to him and he was like if you want to talk to me you got to facetime with me and then someone asked which is amazing because like you can do facetime audio oh yeah yeah like that's a great i mean i'm that's a great tactic anyway but then gudikins someone asked him about that in one of his press conferences and he basically was like yeah that's bullshit like i've tried to reach out to this guy time and time again you know what i mean like whereas

if it really was like clean and not bad i feel like both of them could have just taken the high road and be like hey you know and he did you know he was talking about how he always is gonna love his time in green bay and the fans and everything but like you can tell that there's still definitely animosity between him and the front office of the packers i think that's probably right but i still and like yeah so i still think it was let's say as clean as it could have been. There was not a lot of sniping back and forth. Rodgers didn't unleash people he's close with

to say all these terrible things about the Packers. He was like, let's just let this play out. And that's why it was so interesting when he went here and was like, I intend to play for the Jets. It seems crazy to think about now, but we weren't sure of that. Not at all. AJ probably knew. No, I mean, yeah.

I don't know. Now looking back at the whole situation, now it seems clean because it's over. It's done. But I don't know. I don't know what that's supposed to look like. What is it supposed to look like when a guy leaves the team

after being there that long? All of this, yeah. It will be weird, especially the first preseason, first regular season of the game, to see him out there wearing number eight for the Jets. Okay, so I was reading the Peter King stuff today, which I'm sure you guys have read or leafed through.

Is it Monday morning? No, that is our Brewer. No, I said, is it Monday morning? Oh, ha ha. The answer is yes. The answer is yes. It's football morning in America. I read that.

What about Greer? Greer actually did a nice job on the full breakdown of all the Packers stuff. I mean, obviously, you guys have read that. And then Peter King did a thing on the schedule today, which some people thought was going to be released Thursday. What's the schedule? Tell us. Go ahead, Ryan.

I have no idea. Marquee games. Go. Pull up the graphic, Bruce. I have no idea. They don't tell me. No, but it's like the Packers are going to be – Pack games. Go. Pull up the graphic, Bruce. I have no idea. They don't tell me. No, but it's like the Packers are going to be – or the Packers. Jesus.

The Jets with Aaron Rodgers, their quarterback, are going to be when? Sunday night? Monday night? Which primetime spot? I mean, you know it's going to be a primetime spot. No, but for week one. Play the Jets. Is it Patriots?

I could see them being the opener. Do they play the Chiefs this year? They do play the Chiefs this year Chiefs, Jets, opener They're not at home though, right? Who? Oh, Jets Because Chiefs are going to open at home

The Chiefs options I went on the internet and looked this up beforehand It's called research Chargers Raiders, obviously and look this up beforehand. This is smart. It's called research. Write that down. Chargers, Raiders, obviously. Bills, Dolphins, Bengals, Eagles.

Those are all the Chiefs home games. Chiefs possible openers. I mean, you could run it back opening night with Eagles and Chiefs. Yeah, I think that would be sweet. And they're putting the banner up in front of them. What did the NFL do? Mr. NFL reporter, would the NFL do that to the Eagles or would that feel like they are rubbing it in their face? I mean, I think that's a Chiefs move, right?

I think they would do it. That would be emotional. That's tough. I don't know. Have they done that before? Have they done a rematch of the Super Bowl before to open it up? I don't think so. I don't know if Have they done that before? Have they done a rematch of the Super Bowl before to open it up? I don't think so. I don't know if it worked out like that before because you have to get lucky

that the AFC and NFC team are playing that division. Maybe they will then. Why not? But all those teams. I mean, Bills, Chiefs. I would guess Bills, Chiefs, but also the Bills just opened up the season last year against the Bengals. Bengals, Chiefs would make sense.

That's kind of a rivalry now. You've got two of the top three best young quarterbacks in the NFL. And also, it is amazing now how many good young quarterbacks there are. I remember thinking six or seven years ago, and Breeze was kind of hanging on, and Brady was obviously still around. Peyton was kind of toward the end, although winning Superls and you're like I'm like where all the young guys and it didn't seem like they were anywhere oh yeah especially in the AFC like I've said this

before the Brady era of Super Bowls and like success the Patriots had it was just Big Ben Brady and Peyton Manning yep and then like you could throw in Flacco every once in a while what don't do it no I'm just saying you could throw in footsteps because that Super Bowl run they had, he was absolutely surgical. But there was never this. I mean, there are 10 good quarterbacks in the AFC. You could make an argument that maybe not 10 could win a Super Bowl, but you could make a real argument that seven of them could win a Super Bowl.

Every single playoff team this year could have a chance. That's why it's, a chance. The NFC is wide open, especially now that Rogers is with the Jets, too. Now that they have their best throwing quarterback of all time. The 49ers, you're saying? Yeah.

Hold on. That's not my clip list. He is a guy who writes for the NBC. Matt Mayocco. Very respected reporter. Pies on, I believe. Maybe. Seems possible just based on initial glance.

Well said. You know, has covered the Niners for 20 years. The Sam Darnold thing is interesting. Like, I, so I think it was on the show. Yeah. When I said something like that, there was a very real chance that Darnall was going to be the start of week one. I got a lot of pushback.

From? From people there. Who were like, why would you discount? In the building or like Niners fans? In the building. Okay. Like, why would you discount Trey Lance? And I'm like, I get it.

But like, Trey Lance is not, we have not seen, whatever Trey Lance is going to be, we have not seen it. Unless we have. That's kind of the biggest worry, right? Is that this is really just the worst trade in the history of sports. I still don't think there's enough. He didn't play enough last year. It was in his first NFL game. It was in shitty weather and then he

broke his leg. Yeah, but he hasn't played in six years. It's like, how long is it going to take the guy to be good at football? Why would they bring Darnold in if the front office or whoever you may be talking to over there thought that Trey Lance was going to be good to go for week one? Yeah, wouldn't it be kind of more where they had confidence in him? I was actually interested.

Because he's healthier. When I go through the draft, I basically call everyone on my phone. Right? Literally everyone. Sweet. A lot of people don't answer me, which is all good I basically call everyone on my phone. Right? Literally everyone. Sweet. A lot of people don't answer me, which is all good. It's everyone's own decision. But I was talking to an offensive coordinator whose team was looking for a quarterback,

and he'd done all the quarterbacks. Okay. And he was like... Bobby Sloak? It was not Bobby Sloak. And he was like, Donald probably looked as good last year for stretches as I've seen him. Towards the end, he looks pretty decent. Pretty good.

It seems everyone looks good in Kyle Shanahan's offense. I was just going to say, yeah, it's the perfect situation for him now, too, with their running game. I mean, we reference it all the time. He ran a little bit, too, last year. Yeah? Huh? Yeah. Darnold started to run a little bit. He can scoop but in that offense like they could run the ball

50 times a game or not a game but there will be games where he doesn't have to win anything. Like he he's got to deliver what a couple balls and inside a window but he's it's not as if yeah it's not like they have defense that isn't going to keep them in games. They're the best defense in football.

So it's like hey can you with George Kittle, Ayuk, Debo, McCaffrey in the back, Elijah Mitchell, can you just get us to the point where we're scoring three touchdowns and we're scoring 21 points a game? Because if that's the case, we'll probably end up being the one or two seed in the NFC. Yeah, I mean, I just think about the first three games of last year in Carolina when Sam Darnold looked really good and he had good offensive line and Christian McCaffrey

was healthy. And it's like what, you know, it's like AJ was talking about Devonta Adams is like a rookie. And it's like one of the hardest things for us who examine these guys on like a daily basis is being like, you know what, if I could just step back and say, okay, people develop whenever they develop. So I guess it is possible that Sam Darnold is still developing and maybe has gotten, he's only like 20.

He's 25 still. That's crazy. Kenny Pickett's also 25. Yeah, it feels like Darnold's been the lead for 10 years. Hedden Hooker's 25. That's so crazy. How's Purdy doing? Do we have any updates on him? That's, yeah, like if Purdy's a 25. That's so crazy. How's Purdy doing? Do we have any updates on him?

That's it. Yeah. If Purdy's a guy. He's on schedule. It sounds like he's doing fine, but the real problem is going to be, let's say he's ready to throw for camp. If he's ready to throw for camp, really go through practice, then I think we're good.

And he's the starter. He's the starter. He's their guy. Right. That is the way it seems. The problem is going to be, what if he's like a couple games away? Yeah. Like, you guys, like it's, so then Donald starts one game and then he wins.

And then he starts a second game and then he wins. And it's like, you know. Ride the hot hand. It just creates, I feel like Kyle Shanahan's brain is going to explode with every year being asked a million quarterback questions. But like. It did to himself. Yeah, do we do Purdy or do we do Darnold?

Is Purdy scheduled to throw before camp at all? Can he at least throw lightly in June or July, do we know? Yeah, so he had surgery in mid-February, right? I can't even remember. No, I thought it was March. It says right here, this is a report from four days ago, that Brock Purdy is a few weeks away from throwing.

So basically, the way it's supposed to be is three months of nothing and then three months of throwing, which like that's a long ramp up, but it also takes you right to the start of the season. I wonder if he has a wet noodle when he comes back. Or he could be like Hosen Gardner. Sounds like he's going to have June, July,, August to where they can figure it out.

They'll have pretty much all trading camps to see his arm to see if he's going to start. Also with Trey Lance, though, if it comes down to either Darnold or Trey Lance, at some point they have to play Trey Lance. Otherwise, they have absolutely no trade value, and they're going to end up just, it's like, oh, we traded away all these assets to have a guy who's going to be our third string quarterback. I mean, granted, they're winning, so it doesn't matter, but

any other GM head coach in the league, you're getting shit canned for that move. And it feels like they're not going to play Trey Lance. It just doesn't feel as though he's going to be there. They know what they have in Trey Lance, though. They obviously have an idea. Yeah, you guys have talked about it. You talked about Aaron It just doesn't feel as though he's going to be there. They know what they have in Trey Lance, though. They have to.

Yeah, you guys have talked about it. You talked about Aaron in practice. People have talked about Mahomes in practice. You can tell in practice if a guy – Well, I mean, think about for the Packers, Rodgers had the broken thumb, the vulgar fracture, whatever it was. So Jordan Love got a lot of reps. I am sure that they have seen whatever it is he's going to be. Which could be good right because if they have and then they're still okay with letting rogers go like even when they

were doing that whole and aaron talked about this where it was like going into the they told me take your time do your thing you know do your process we'll let you have what you need. And he said he was 90-10 retiring and playing. They must have had some sort of thought like, hey, Jordan Love is going to be our guy. Whether he wants to play or not, we should just move on to Jordan Love. Well, and I think they were even almost a little bit excited about him because there was that point where it was right after the Eagles game and then the Packers won however many games in a row

to keep him in playoff contention. They were seriously talking about sitting Rodgers and playing Love for the rest of the year just because it's like hey, this guy, we believe in him. We kind of like what we've seen so far and we just want to see more of him in live game action.

I don't think they would have done that if it's like, hey, Jordan Love's a bum. We can't throw this guy in the heat because he'll get exposed and then we'll look like idiots. And if we really do want to get rid of Rodgers, the public backlash will be like, well, you can't get rid of this guy. The guy who's supposed to replace him isn't ready to replace him. Yeah, I was like, of all the things that I –

sometimes you'll get a sense for when big news is going to happen, and of all the things I was bracing myself for, it was that. It was like, they lose a couple and then it's like, are they going to play Jordan Love or not? What if he's good? Or, oh God, what if he's not good? Because like at all, at some point at all, it's like you guys were saying about, it's like AJ was saying about Trey Lance, like

at some point, like, gotta play and then we'll find out either yay or nay. And like, that Jordan Love drama would have been like cool juicy but clearly the Packers feel much better about Jordan Love than the Niners do about Trey Lance like that's got to be at least some sort of saving grace for Packers fans like hey they wouldn't just say because he's our I guess now that I'm about to say maybe they do just say this hey we drafted him we need him to be the guy so we're just going to put him in.

But would they really just get rid of Rodgers and piss Rodgers off, you know, right when he's about to retire just so that they could play Jordan Love? I don't know. Maybe they would because they drafted him. Not if they thought he was garbage. Not if they felt like he had no chance. Like they obviously have to feel this dude has something we can find a way. His ceiling must be really high.

They like the progress he has made we've we've heard him say that publicly which obviously they should and we don't know if they i'm sure they do believe it but if they thought he was garbage i think this would have been a much different situation they thought this guy absolutely cannot be our quarterback it was interesting too because right after they got rid of rogers it was lafleur who was like hey we need to temper expectations on on Jordan Love going into this year like he's still a young guy but then I think it was either yesterday or like two two days ago he did an interview and was just gushing about Jordan Love and but like how far

he's come how good he looks so far this year how how good he's looked in like the last couple weeks so it seems like they have kind of done almost like a 180 on like the like going in I think for a lot of Packers fans too it was the same deal like it's tough because it's the packers and you it's like a 4 and 13 is an option 5 and 12 isn't it weren't they aj you i think you were on this team like rogers first full year starting they didn't make the play seven and nine i think six and six and ten that's right yeah but he put aaron played well he really did we gave up a billion points. So that year – Great question.

What the hell happened, Hawk? I don't know. Tough to stop offenses in the league sometimes. I can just see AJ at his locker just answering the question from like the 50,000 Packers reporters. Like, I don't know, guys. Like, it's tough to stop offense. We ruined it, man.

Sorry, guys. We're scoring. This guy can sling the ball. We're scoring points. We just haven't slowed the other team down as much as we should. Then you had the players-only meeting, right? You let it, and you kind of laid down the law. Definitely my thing.

Yelled at everybody. Got on my high horse. Yelled at everybody. Because you were naked. We snapped right in the face. You were naked, and you swung on Bob Tomofsky in the locker room. Come here, Bob. Man, Ian, have you ever seen a naked fight with a reporter and a player?

No. When's the last time you've been in a locker room after a game? Yeah, come on. It's been a couple years. It's been about 10 years. Is that awkward for you, Ian? Is that awkward for you to piss off Marty Bennett, right? Didn't that happen in Chicago?

Maybe. Who was? Oh, okay. I was going to say your audio name. Sweet pissed off jerome simpson back in the day oh boy um old move what was there a was there a naked locker room fight that i missed no we just always wonder i mean there's usually there's definitely it's happened with players but not usually not with the media in there i'm just wondering if you guys ever saw a guy get start to get up in somebody's chest

or something and he either has a towel on his shoulder or he's getting out of the shower or whatever. Yeah, I've seen it. I mean, you're right. I haven't been in a lot of locker rooms post-game. It's like people always ask, like, you know, how many players do you know? And I'm like – How many dongs do you see after a game?

What? Is that what people ask you? Who has the biggest dong? No, thank God. I'm sure people do. Absolutely, people probably do. I know guys, yeah, that happens. Really?

I played the fifth on all of that. Oh. It is. No, but people always ask, how many players do you know? And it's like, well, I'm not in locker rooms that much, or maybe never. Well, not anymore. You were, though. You were in New England.

So you'll see tense moments after games, but what you kind of hope is that unless it becomes something that really affects a football team, you don't really make it a huge deal. I remember in New England when it was a Sunday night Steelers-Patriots game or something like that. Hell yeah. And Bill O'Brien and Brady got into it in the sidelines.

You guys remember this? Oh, yeah, of course. And even though in New England it was a massive story, and even though I reported on it as if it was a massive story, I still was kind of like, this is dumb. Like quarterback and offensive coordinator yelled at each other all the time. Like wait until Mack and O'Brien do it on the sidelines this year. Oh, yeah.

Everyone's heads are going to explode, and I'm going to be like, have you met these guys? Well, that was the cool part about the Brady Man in the Arena documentary. Like when they specifically... Which I watched all of that. Oh, yeah. It was unbelievable. I didn't watch the last episode.

You watched the whole thing and not the last episode? Why would I watch the last episode? What's the last episode? You know what the last episode is, Tony. No, I don't. Did you say bye to the team or what? No, it tony no i don't i don't want to say bye to the team or what no it's just it's just him in tampa i don't need to see that okay there's no point i need i do want to see that but yeah okay well go watch it then prick but in one of the

episodes they talk it's strictly about like the bill o'brien and tom brady relationship and like pat and has referenced it a bunch of times like T-Kettle Bill because that's what they would call him because he would just get so mad and then they could see it happening in his face and then he'd just explode but then you know Gronk has said this and Tom hasn't but Gronk has said if he were to ever have you know one play caller for

a team it would be Bill O'Brien like that's his guy yeah everyone loves Bill O'Brien. See that's like for Mac Jones that's gotta be the greatest thing ever. And I know Mac was pumped, pumped about Bill O'Brien. That's why I like free agency. I mean, me and Tony have talked about this because the

Steelers have had their problems with offensive play callers, but the biggest thing for the Patriots and Patriots fans... I'm sorry, I'm not trying to... Whoa! Wow! Talking about breaking news. This is breaking news.

Wow. Out and about. How about it? The star. I mean, that is beautiful. Man. Does he know how to work a stroller? It's actually really challenging. Wow. That took me at least many months to do that. Does he know how to work a stroller? It's actually really challenging. It's dominating right now. Wow. Crushing.

Absolutely crushing. That took me at least many months to do that. There you go. That is... Oh. Oh, my God. It's all right. It's all right. Kept it off.

Hey, how we doing? Hey. Hey. How you doing? Hey. How are you? Good to see you, team. How you guys doing?

So we had our first... Appointment. Appointment, yep. right down the road here. So as we're driving by the Thunderdome, I said, hold on one minute. Let's go ahead and get old beautiful Mackenzie in the Thunderdome for the first time. She's kicking ass. She's kicking ass. Great to see you.

You're kicking ass. Rep, we haven't watched any of this. Seriously? I've missed the whole first 50 minutes. We're going to watch it back, though. Oh, please don't. You look great. You look great right now. He's not going to watch it back, though. Oh, please don't. You look great. You look great right now.

He's not going to watch it back, right? He'll watch it back. I hope not. It's been bad. Top five worst of all time? Oh, I mean, it's up there. It's definitely up there. What are your thoughts on it, Mackenzie?

Nothing. She's got nothing. Oh, no. Rap sheet. See what you, no. Rap sheet. See what you're doing? Why don't you stand over here? You go eye to eye with her and figure it out. I'm joking. That was so rude. No, kids love me.

AJ, I can't hear a word you're saying over there. AJ, I want to let you know you look fantastic. I saw a photo of Rap earlier over here. Fun fact, Ian, I don't even know if you know this. You are four cases tall. Do you know that? Oh, no. Do you know? I can't think of a better thing to be measured by than cases of body weight.

You were standing over here talking to Foxy, and thank you for coming out here and doing this, especially after the long weekend of your horse just being terrible. But it was in the derby. Your horse was in the derby. That's all that matters. Did you guys watch that? We did. Yeah, I bet a lot of money on Jace's road.

Sorry about that. Sorry about that. Sorry about that. A lot of people were like, hey man, just lost my house. Oh. Yeah. Well, it should have been nice. The hair looks amazing. Connor actually bet on a horse because he was told it was gray. Yes.

Then as they're doing the horse. Nope. Hold the phone. Two fills. Oh. Yeah. Turns out. Very brown horse. Not a gray horse. Then as they're doing Tapping Trice Horse Nope Hold the phone Two Phils Yeah Turns out Very brown Very brown horse Not a gray horse Yeah Foxy

Foxy almost lost all his money On Connor telling him It was a gray horse So he bet on his Only reason I bet on him I think she's going to go Eat right now What a time

What an absolute time How you doing man Yeah how What's going on You look good For just having had a baby Thank you Thank you

Thank you I appreciate that I can't hear Let me go run and get ears. I'll be back. No, no, no. I need the whole pack. I keep them handy just in case.

That's a good move. Is that just brand new? Yeah, these are just brand new headphones yet to be opened, you know, because you never know really. When you're going to need them. Yeah, like what happens if one of them just dies, you know? You got to have them. Glue factory. Exactly. Glue factory.

AJ, exactly. Glue factory. That's where I'm headed if I don't have those headphones. That sounds about right. Do we want to take a break and come back at the top of the hour with the star of the show? Or do you want to keep rolling? If he's just grabbing them.

It's not a terrible question, to be honest. The thing is, do I have the answer? All right. I'm going to make an executive decision. Oh, this is bold, Rap. This is your first executive decision. This is a big one. It's a big one.

Rap, whatever you need to do. We're going to pause. Oh, wait. Nope. Pat, Pat, I'm thinking of going to break now and coming back with you at the top. What do you think of that plan? Oh, good keys, Rap.

Good keys. There you go. All right. Affirmed. Let's go. Nobody leave. Stay right there. The newest dad that we all know,

I assume. Yeah. I don't know a lot of new dads. Yep. Pat McAfee of the show is going to join us at the top with or without his lovely wife and baby. We'll see. Don't go anywhere.

We will be right back. And come on back. Come on back. We're very lucky to be joined at the bottom of the top of the end of the last hour by the

namesake of this show, Pat McAfee, who I think is going to join us soon. There he is. Bang! There he is walking toward... See, I can see the wrestling strut. I can see...

Play the music. What music do they play for wrestling? Everyone, yeah. Everyone has their own. No, but for... He's got his own song. It's the intro to the show. I just heard it.

I know because I watch whenever I see you on... Ian, you're a terrible person. ...wrestling, I watch. Do you watch wrestling? No. Yeah, the WrestleMania show where you're at that you watch wrestling? No. Yeah, the WrestleMania shirt on when you were at that pool, remember? Yeah. Favorite wrestler.

He's a backling guy. That was right before WrestleMania. Watch him, man. Nobody outside of our office really knew that I was going to be a part of WrestleMania whenever he had that WrestleMania shirt on. Almost had to be a full, oh, WrestleMania. Yeah. Don't bring it up.

Don't bring it up. Don't bring it up. Yeah, yeah it up. Don't bring it up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was a full thing. Kayfabe, baby. Can I bring up something and not try to make this awkward at all? Yeah. Jesus.

You didn't let me break the birth of your child. I thought you might... Came out of nowhere, bro. I know, but... Came out of nowhere. As I tell... As I... When...

As I tell agents or general managers or coaches, like, oh, yeah, call me by surprise. I'm like, you still had time to tweet it. Who broke it? Me? Yeah. Put out your own stuff. But it's weird because you said when it was happening,

you're like, fuck, I have to text Rapshoot right now because if I don't, then how will anybody know? Right when her water broke, right? When her water broke. That would have been a good time. So her water broke 2.50 a.m. So I got woken up 3.27 when she said, hey, I think my water broke. My first thought was, need to wrap.

You didn't answer your text. You were sleeping. You were getting ready to booze up for the derby. How was the derby? Your horse lost. I bet on it. I don't know what that's all about. Ain't that right, AJ?

I told the whole group. Everybody's like, who are we betting on? Who are we betting on? I was like. I'd bet on it. I don't know what that's all about. Ain't that right, AJ? I told the whole group. Everybody's like, who are we betting on? I'm betting on Jason Rhodes. Our friend has a horse in the race. That was the only reason why I was betting on that horse. This is why Rodgers hates me now because everyone in AJ's group bet on him too, right? Really? Oh, I can't say that's the fact.

I don't know. What a weekend, though. Derby looked like a great time. AJ, how come you didn't do the hands? I thought you were the inventor of the hands. Have you guys already talked about this? No. What happened? What happened with the hands?

For a picture, you mean? Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I was just standing there trying to be professional. I don't know what everybody else was doing, but yeah. That's not what you said to me. He told me it's played out. Yeah.

Wait, in the picture where everyone did the hands, he wasn't doing the hands? No, he's the only one not doing it. The whole group. Look, he's back right in. Obviously, NFL tweeted this and posted this. Checked out and posted this. The crew's out and about.

Look at Money Team Ed, by the way, top left. You saw Ed Berry up in there? Oh, wow. Yeah, Money Team Ed, top left. He looks fantastic. What a group out there.

Hair is amazing. AJ's the only guy that didn't do the hand thing. I thought AJ created the hand thing. I thought he did, too. Having a baby, I didn't expect this. I thought I was going to be checked out of the world but when you're just wandering your house at 3 a.m sure you know when the baby cannot sleep for whatever you can

talk oh yeah which i tried to i tried to reason with this little drunk thing sing sing oh yeah i'm doing everything you name it there's nothing so i'm wide awake You do a lot of like, I'm actually keeping up with everything pretty. I thought I was going to be checked out. I'm keeping up with everything pretty good. Okay. I was disgusted that this guy did not do the hand thing. Yeah, it's not a stop. It's despicable.

Is that because you weren't a part of the Instagram post? Is that what it was? Oh, okay. That makes more sense. No, maybe. I mean, if I'm the one that you claim started it and I decide to not do it because I feel like it might be played out a little bit, then it's my choice, right?

You're right. I have respect for it, I guess. Did you ask about the Instagram post? Oh, about Aaron's other one? Yeah. No, I didn't. That's another missed opportunity. I guess I should have brought that up.

What did you guys do? Did you guys booze the whole time, like Ian? Yeah, people were boozing. I don't know. I smoke a lot of cigars and hang out. I was at the track 10 hours Friday and Saturday. I was there the whole time. Aaron likes to bet on every single race.

A lot of people smoking. A lot of plant talk. A lot of just discussion about plant medicine with one of the nation's gurus. I mean, isn't Rogers like one of the gurus? He's the face of it. The leading guru in America, I believe. If I was a plant medicine person, which I am not, but if I was, that would be my number one target.

Would you ever get into it? You ever get into a slump? Maybe Shefty just beats the fuck out of you. One straight year. Why don't you say that out loud? No, I'm just saying. Hypothetical here. Hypothetical.

Something happens. Shefty's just crushing you. Your tweet is 45 seconds to 55 seconds after every Shefter breaking news, and you think to yourself, you know what? I need to figure this out. I need to change something. Are you going into that jungle and doing a little ayahuasca rap? Is that something that's going to happen?

I don't know, but I don't even know how I would be like, all right, let's go do this. What do I do? I don't know. What store do I go to? I mean, well, you just laid out the scenario why you would start to do it. You're getting your ass beat, and then, yeah, you would just have to. No, but then I call, like.

You call Rogers, and you go out to the gumbo. What if Little Latte passes you as... What do you do? He just stole Gumpy. He's just been stealing Gumpy's clips. Oh, yeah. He's been pilfering. Yeah, he's just been stealing clips that Gumpy's been piecing together

and putting on our Instagram, and then he's just ripping them and putting them up there. and Gumpy's like, pal, your dad's a billionaire. Gumpy is so pissed about it. Just taking all my hard work, pal. Fucking boot, Schultz, so you won't stop stealing all my shit. I miss this corner of the internet.

Ah, well, it's a pretty good corner of the internet. Anytime Gumpy's involved in it, it's a good part of the internet. Music's the same. Gumpy's our internet splunker. He is literally with the flashlight on his forehead. He's in the internet. He knows everything that happens. We are very lucky for that.

Knock on wood, there's a lot of news coming out of this particular office in the next couple weeks. A lot of news. This guy perk up. I thought the baby was the news. That's kind of the starter of the entire This guy perk up. I thought the baby was the news. Which I did not. That's kind of the starter of the entire thing. Me too.

Like, birthday, everybody was way too excited. Could have just texted me. My phone is up. My phone's on at 3 in the morning. I'm just saying. Yeah, but you're so drunk. Most people's phones are on. Yeah, everyone's phone is on. That is a good call.

I don't go there right before bed and fucking, turn this fucking thing off. Does anybody turn their phone back anymore? I don't think so. When I got my first phone when I was like 18, like about to graduate high school, got my first phone. It wasn't a flip phone, but it was the Nokia with the. Oh, yeah, the brick. The Razor?

No, that would have been awesome. Was it the one that turned like this? Remember that one? Sidekick? There's a little sidekick. Kids that had those were so cool, dude. My wife had that. No, she had the one with the...

Alias. You would take the thing down, and then the keyboard would be there. Oh, the chocolate? No. That's one of them. The Envy was a legend. Yeah, Envy was a great phone. Alias is one of the best ones of all.

It's the Razr. Where'd you go to school? College. Columbia. Oh, you had a Blackberry or whatever. Yeah, probably. Blackberry Pearl was probably the Razor. There's no other one here. Where'd you go to school? College. Columbia. Oh, you had a Blackberry or whatever. Yeah, probably. Blackberry Pearls. Probably the first one.

Yeah, you were probably up there. I remember walking through the mall and just seeing the super yuppie kids. Oh, that's sweet. I'm playing Snake. God, the thought of a phone being a status symbol is just amazing. It was back in the day. Had to learn T9 Word, the texting thing. Oh, yeah.

I believe, and everybody's going to say this. This is like one of those things that you say, and everybody's like, oh, me too, or whatever. I think I could have competed at the T9 text. I think I... I couldn't figure it out. I think I could have competed. Couldn't figure it out.

I really couldn't figure it out. Really. That does not surprise me. But you're young. You're young. That wasn't a thing by the time you were running. I believe I kept mine in ABC though Because if you're texting in your pocket

So that's what I'm saying My wife had a Palm Trio Oh, Leah lived good She had a cool schedule She made money in college She actually worked That T9 thing was a game changer Used to Underneath. That T9 thing was a game changer, though. Oh, yeah.

Used to, underneath the desk, T9 somebody. In your pocket. Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. Like four different conversations happening in the middle of class. It was incredible. That was our high school. Now that's skills. You guys had BlackBerrys and iPads probably.

Before they even came out. I would turn my phone off when I would go somewhere, and I did not want my parents to call me, and my mom would get so mad. Why would you turn your phone off? I think that was the last time. Did you keep your beeper on when you turned your phone off? How old were you? 18.

9-1-1. You know, parents want to know where you are at 18. Obviously, my kids will be checking in with me regularly when they're 18, as will Mackenzie. Well, especially your mom. Dude, this is wild. You two just had kids. AJ, you got 10 of them.

You got a few kids you just sent away for four months at a time. Right. Have you decided where this summer you're going to send them? Is that something you've thought about? Oh, yeah. No, they're both, yeah. Yeah, send them to California this year. Maybe Fiji.

No, same place. Both of them go to the same camp this year. Okay, I didn't know if we can get them further away from the house for longer. It's all fine. She starts breathing weird, you know? And I'm like, oh, my God, she's dead. Oh, yeah. Dude, it is.

This is a thing. I am a laissez-faire human being. I think a lot of people would say that. Like, what are we worrying about? If it's out of our control, let's not worry about it. Right? I think your wife and I are good yin and yang. Like, she does.

Like, she thinks ahead about things that could potentially happen and prepares and everything like that. I'm a big, if it's out of my control, I ain't worrying about it at all. Sure. It might affect me, but if I can't control it, I ain't wasting any time letting it sit in here or in here. I'm going to move along. We'll see how it goes later. She, one little, and I'm like, she's dead. Oh, my God.

And then you start looking at her, and I'm like, this is my whole life now. This is the rest of my life. Oh, yeah. I didn't know that's what i was signing up for i didn't do enough research i did not know i was signing up for like genuinely caring about everything that something does and that's what my life is now i i haven't had so much anxiety over something in my entire life as i've had in the last four days it is wild dude parenting is absurd thing. I have no idea how you guys have handled it so well. And AJ, I don't know how you have 10 kids. How many does AJ have? Ten.

I have four kids. He says ten, but yeah, four. But yeah, I think that's, Ian, I imagine you would have the same thing. Pat, that's a great point. Like, I don't really worry about a whole lot of things. I don't overthink things. But yeah, all of my, any anxiety or any worries I have on a daily basis, it has to do 100% with my kids.

How things are going to, like, oh, what are we doing this? How do I handle that? What do I do there? Like, that's what it is. I was going to say. They need us to survive, especially at your age. You'll, like, you'll hear something, and then you'll get used to it for, like, two days. It'll take you to get used to it, and then it'll be fine.

Okay, that's normal. And then there'll be something new. It'll take you two days to get used to that. And okay, that's normal. Two days, something else pops up. It's just something every other day. So she didn't poop for the first, like, we're talking, I don't know how Sam's going to feel about me just talking about this all,

but Sam's been kicking ass. She knows, right? She's been an absolute, but yeah, she does. She knows this. I said her name like four times on the show, whenever we weren't supposed to say her name. cole on wwe's friday night smackdown shinsuke nakamura this is the day before sam announced his name a baby right michael cole goes i know in a hospital in indiana pat sam and beautiful mackenzie lynn mcaf man. Oh, no. So Cole had it before me?

Cole had name. Cole had name. I'm like, hey, Cole said Mackenzie's name on SmackDown. I think two and a half, probably three million people heard that name. And she goes, well, I'm going to have to hold that over his fucking head. Bingo. That's good leverage, Sam. That's good leverage, Sam.

That's good news. But, yeah, the whole, she didn't poop for the first like day and a half because she came two weeks early. So I guess there's something in your body that is like a plug for your poop that drops out whenever you're born. Yeah. Okay. So it's not happening inside.

People do poop inside of the, and I guess that's a whole thing too with bacteria and everything like that. So I've learned a lot about the human system here. So there was a time where they were telling us that she was maybe going to have to go to another, I was going to have to get hop in an ambulance with her ride to another hospital. They're going to have to give her an enema to flush her out.

And I'm like, this is not how this girl is supposed to come into work. Cause everything else was completely healthy. So it was like something happened inside. So the doctor came up to us and was like, just want to let you know, I did check. She does have a butthole. so it was like something happened inside so the doctor came up to us and was like just want to let you know i did check she does have a butthole and i was like good news good news i didn't even think about that being something two days how long after she was born did you guys figure this out 36 uh well i seen her butt right whenever i was changing her thing to uh whenever she would pee a lot of wet diapers we're talking every single time we went in to feed her, wet diaper, wet diaper, wet diaper,

wet diaper, wet diaper. No mud, though. So us not really understanding parenting, obviously we were a little bit flustered as well. Because there was two check marks. It's like wet diaper here, dirty diaper here. And we just had check, check, check, check, check, check, check. No dirty diaper for a full day.

It's like it's right she's got poop at some point but she wasn't agitated she wasn't irritated and her stomach was still soft you know so in my head i'm like baby would tell us if something was going on natural human and our baby she would be very loud about it if she did not that whole thing so 36 hours in doctor comes and was like we are a bit concerned about her not pooping yet we want to let you know she does have a butthole and everything like i'm like okay so i looked at her i'm like okay so then i started thinking i'm like i didn't even think about her having a butthole then that adds a whole nother list of like okay now i gotta worry she has a

butthole i just learned she has a a butt and then i started thinking about all the piping oh yeah and they're like 20 feet of piping inside of a human to get to the butthole i'm like is that all that what are we so then she destroyed a diaper destroyed one we're talking about two days worth of coming out of there and i i celebrated big time like here we go i was doing like a poop dance. Should. Almost. I was like super excited.

And then you pull that thing back and it's like, okay, now I have no idea what to do. Like, what are we supposed to do? Wipe it on up. Get a bunch of wet wipes and just wipe that sucker up. Front to back, AJ. Don't be an asshole, okay? Don't be a meathead man and not understand that. You know what I mean?

Diapers are fine. When diapers are your own kid, it's fine. If you're trying to change other kids' diapers, family members, that's tough. But yeah, your own kids, I think it's nothing. How about it's Nurse Appreciation Week? Shout out to all the nurses. Shout out.

Shout out. The nurses that were at the hospital that we were at, thank you. Thank you all so, so much. They helped. We actually stayed another night just because we wanted to continue to ask questions to the nurses, learn some more from the nurses, and also at night, hey, can you, three hours, you want to go?

The nurses just take it. So shout out to all the nurses out there, including the ones that we dealt with. We are very, very thankful. The things they were doing in there that is not a desirable gig i don't every every nurse i talked to they're like you get called to do this this isn't something that you like whatever shout out to the nurses happy nurse appreciation shout to my wife kicking ass and shout to my little baby girl who first pediatrician appointment this morning completely healthy right down the road got lucky to stop by ian i see you on your phone are we breaking any

news because the only news that's coming out is what? Basketball news. Yep. Ishbia said don't suspend them. Antonio Brown. Foreign national. I loved in that report they said mother and father, both Americans.

Both like well-known Americans. I didn't know that. Did you know his dad was in a ring league store? No. I thought he just played that team or didn't buy that Americans. I didn't know that. Did you know his dad was in a Ring League store? No. No, I just thought he just played in that team or didn't buy that team. It wasn't paying players. Yeah, he kicked them all out of the hotel, right? Yeah, but that was Antonio Al-Express Trust Fund. It was not Antonio Brown.

Not to be a total, like, party pooper or whatever. Pooper, that's what we were just talking about. But at what point do we, and, like, this is all, like, entertaining or whatever, but, like, at what point are we... And this is all entertaining and whatever, but at what point are we like, Antonio Brown, just go away? I'm just saying, he hasn't played in a couple of years. You know what I mean? He's not going anywhere.

This is AJ's teammates' fault. He was a completely normal human being before Vontaze Perfect took his head off. It's amazing how many people ask me about that. A lot of people point to that time. Well, the Foreign National says that it was James Harrison. Yeah, that's off. It's amazing how many people asked me about that. A lot of people point to that time. Well, the foreign national says that it was James Harrison. Yeah, that's right. That's a good point.

He did. As you were talking to him. I think he was confused, though. What's that? I thought he paid everybody. I thought I saw a tweet where he paid everyone. He did tweet, yeah, paid in full, and it's him signing something. I don't know if we can say, oh, okay, he paid everyone because of that tweet.

I think my favorite part of it is him saying, I don't know if that was the answer oh, okay, he paid everyone because of that tweet. I think my favorite part of it is him saying, I never said I was the owner. But he was walking on the field. In that suit. And the security said, get out of here. And he said, I'm the owner of the team. And that was like the whole. So I enjoy that. I think he's awesome.

I enjoy that, yeah. How about it? Yeah. I mean, Antonio Brown has certainly made some mistakes. Andrew Luck's going to be a commander. Jim Hersey said, hey, brother, anybody that's doing any Luck talk needs to do some fuck off. I love everything about Jim Irsay saying, is that right?

Is that what they're doing? Because I've come on this program and I've been like, yeah, two teams called me to come punt and kick for them, and Jim Irsay's like, brother, they're not allowed to do that. Andrew Luck, a little bit different. Andrew Luck, if he's coming back playing football, he's playing for the Colts. Are they the only team that reach out to Andrew Luck, or how does that even go? They have to reach

out to his agent, you think, and then they can just act like they never did it? Or how does the tampering process work behind the scenes, Ian? Because I assume it's happening all the time. Yeah. Right, and well, I don't know about that, but like, first of all, his agent... What are you talking about? Andrew Luck's agent is... Combine literally just became

tampering. Tampering happens all the time, doesn't it? Right. And I think usually people are sort of like on the same page about this, you know, like where like teams can sort of like – not tamper because they would never do that, but say to an agent like, hey – Well, the Miami Dolphins actually did tamper. They offered ownership to a quarterback in their division,

lost the first-round pick this year. 31 first-rounders this year. And you're telling me with Lamar, not one guy with Lamar was like, hey, just think about this. You could come play here. They were allowed. Lamar was allowed because he was not under contract, and he basically had permission to get.

I cut you off, though, because you were saying that never happens because you work for the NFL. You have to say that. It does happen. It actually literally just happened with the greatest player of all time just a few weeks ago. Back to your point, the Andrew Lux agent. Yes, he's nice. Andrew Lux agent, who I don't think is an agent anymore, but basically

the one thing about that Ursae said, which either is not accurate or I didn't know was that he said you can't reach out to someone close to Luck, because I sort of thought you could, but maybe not. Oh, you're smarter than Ursae. Why don't you drive down his house? Yeah, he should. He's got new hair, so be careful. Oh, you're smarter than Erso. Why don't you drive down his house? Yeah, he should. I should go tell him. He's got new hair, so be careful.

He does have to die. What do you mean he has new hair? He's a character in a movie. He has a new haircut. It looks sweet. It's unbelievable. He took Flamin' Hot Cheetos and rubbed it all over his head. And there's a chance he did. That was the inspo.

I don't know if he actually took the Cheetos. He looks great as a ginger, though. I will say that. Unbelievable. Hell yeah. Shout out, Andy. It is interesting to me, in all seriousness. Good call.

Good question. Ian? Like, Ian, okay, let's say someone's on a ski lift. You're a skier. Let's say you're riding a ski lift somewhere, some fancy place, and you see a big, tall giant that looks like Andrew Luck. What was the golf course? What, just a year ago?

Oh, yeah. Two years ago. Just two ships. Aaron? Yeah. Elway was out there. Aaron and Elway on the same golf course. Just two ships. Aaron? Yeah. Elway was out there. Aaron and Elway on the same golf course. That was a big story.

We actually had somebody. AJ, you remember, somebody actually reached out to us. I'm not going to say who it was from what team or what representative and said, hey, can't be. Do not mention this. Cannot be talking like they went on a meeting there. Yeah, can't be doing that. Because I guess that would be tampering. But golf course, big place. I'm sure I know

who called you. Well, now you just said that to McVay and Stafford in Cabo. Yeah, they're on vacation together. Yeah, in the same exact area. And then Stafford casually goes to that game. Shout out Jay Glazer.

Shout out Andrew Whitworth who got Jay Glazer to go because he didn't want to go because he just broke up with his now wife. Shout out Drew Brees. I don't know. Shout out Strahan. Shout out Strahan. Shout out Fox NFL Sunday.

What's going on? Terry Bradshaw. Shout out Terry Bradshaw. If there was ever going to be a thing with... I assume that would have been one. How long? But, like, I think what happened with the Lions and Stafford, the Lions had sort of agreed that Stafford would be going somewhere.

So the fact that it was facilitated and then the trade ended up being, like, pretty fair, and actually probably even more fair than it was at the time, because Jared Goff most certainly does not stink anymore. Hell yeah. Wow. Wow. No, but people were real down on him. Yeah. Including...

He's going to make $30-some million a year. Yeah. I mean, yeah. He has done quite well. That was the big part of the trade, is that the Lions picked up his contract. Yeah, and he did stink year one. People forget that because he had such a good year last year. Yeah, the Lions didn't stink.

Yeah, exactly. The Lions didn't stink. Yeah, exactly. The Lions didn't stink. It was crazy to me. I remember asking. We're golf fans, by the way. Love him. The golf course? Are you kidding me? But the golf course is a place where people can tamper. Just like vacation in Cabo, I guess. What is the rules? You're not allowed to talk business, but who knows

if you do or not. What if you say, Ian, what if you got off the lift and you saw Andrew like, hey man, you look like you can still play. And he's like, yeah, I don't know. Maybe I could slang it a bit. Is that tampering? If it was a coach or someone else, another team? I don't think so.

Because really the question is, is someone going to charge you with tampering? Like is someone going to say like- Who can charge you? Another team would have to bring it to the attention of the league? Or either the team that has him or the team that wanted him. Okay, so the Patriots had to press charges on the Dolphins.

Or is that the NFL? How big a cut? Who snitched? I'm not sure about that. Like, Ishbia came out and said, I don't want Jokic to be suspended. Yes. And Adam Silver could go, hey, we don't give a fuck what you want. Okay, this is, like, you don't want to press charges.

Cool. This is the NBA world here. This is not your whole thing. We're hoping it doesn't happen. I don't know if that's been... That was an awesome moment. We need more of those moments with owners and players. We don't want any...

Ishmael was just holding on to the ball. Yeah. And then he flopped. He flopped big time. Nice flop. His former basketball player. Ishmael is awesome, dude. Actually...

He's a weapon. Shams gave me Ishmael's number whenever we were out in Phoenix for Nicky's thing. I texted him whenever we went to the arena. He was not in town. I had not texted him since then. All I did was text him last night, dog, at like 2.33 a.m. whenever I got it.

This morning, laughing response to it or whatever. Happy our guy's going to win is all he cared about. But to your point, though, you said, like, because AJ asked there, so a team would have to, like, press charges almost and say, hey, you're tampering with our guy? You know, it's a case. So Ursae was telling the commanders, just a heads up. Yeah.

We will. Yeah, we're coming. Is that what he's saying? Good. I thought it was interesting that Ursae is so protective. Like, Andrew. Gave him $25 million to not play. He gave him $25 million in future earnings.

That is a good point. To not play. Because I think he thought he was going to come back. I think Jim thought that Andrew Luck, maybe a year, maybe two, get healthy. Gave him the money. Good faith. Hey, you know what I mean? So now that he's here and other teams are calling him,

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that offensive line, with that running back, with some of the weapons they had, probably add one or two, because people most likely want to play with Andrew Luck. Yeah. You could make the argument like, hey, the Colts definitely could have gone to a Super Bowl, definitely some conference title games. At least the two were promised. Well, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, Jim's like, you guys are judging me on a much different time.

We had a once-in-a-generational, brother. We had two generations covered. We had Payton. Then we had Luck. Our team has not been good since, AJ. I mean, it has been tough to do. But, like, if Andrew is still playing with the Colts, it's worth saying, Colts are in this AFC conversation.

Oh, yeah. No matter what the team looks like around him AJ Andrew was so good Andrew was so good did you play against him yeah I did I love like what a big goofy bastard in a great way like just such a big meat-headed he's a great mixture of like a meathead tough guy but also super weirdly smart and you knew like it felt like he was three steps ahead of you he really did yeah he was like a rain man type when it came to the brain like he was so so so smart loved football so much respected football so much refused to take care of himself on the field like hey don't take those hits that's not football yeah okay yeah we need you not to die oh was this uh this was the uh

chuck strong game hey jay wow was this a Chuck Strong game? Hey, Jay. Wow. Was this the Chuck Strong game? Yeah, I think it was, actually. Yeah. You guys had a lead at halftime. We came out second half. I think Gerard Powers got a pick at, like, first drive in the third quarter. Then Reggie got a touchdown, I think.

Reggie took game ball down to Chuck's hospital. I didn't know you were playing for the Packers still at that time. Big-time game in the history of old Indianapolis Colts. I was there. I remember. Everybody was there, I think. No, I actually was there. No, I think like media. What was that? Big deal. Huge game. Oh, because it was Chuck's first game. And I remember seeing

Ursae with a football head into a limo or something like that, and they were like, don't tweet about this. Don't. Because they wanted to like... Yeah, but he literally just got done in the locker room saying, I'm taking this ball. Right, but we didn't know that.

So they were like, let him do it so Chuck doesn't find out like on Twitter. On the internet, yeah. That was a cool time there. That was a really cool time. Probably a crazy time for you guys. Chuck's first year as a head coach. So this staff was brand new. Bruce Arians becomes head coach, right?

First year? First year, yeah. 2-12.12 geez that's how he says it 212 who's here at 212 that's how chuck always said it 212 212 because we're 32 out of 32 bruce arians was the interim head coach or whatever and uh that was my first time getting to meet bruce arians always been a fan of bruce arians because he was with the steelers so i'd known him, but that was my first time watching him. All those coaches brand new to the facility. All those coaches brand new. And Chuck, we had an early bye week, like maybe week five, week six, I forget what it was. His wife, Tina, forced him

to go get checked out because he had bruises. He never came back until like week 17 or whatever. We played the Texans, I think. We get a win, go into the playoffs, end up going to the AFC Championship. Is that deflate? I think so. 2012? No, we lost to Baltimore. Bruce Arians didn't...

Yeah, he got sick. Day of game, he goes into hospital. That was the Baltimore Super Bowl because that was Ray Lewis' last year and they beat New England in New England to go. No, that was your... Yes. Yeah, because Chuck was at Baltimore the year before. Didn't get the Super Bowl because he was with the Indianapolis Colts.

Dig his life save, though, because we had a bye week. So a little bit of one of these. Yeah, what would you trade? But it was interesting, AJ, because, you know, some of those coaches thought they had a little bit more power than they probably did, right, when the head guy's away. You know. Nice little play.

How'd it go? How'd it go? For me, in the coach that I had to deal with, I was great. I don't know how he was, but I certainly had some interactions with people about how they were acting. You know what I mean? There was some of that. Yeah?

Yeah, yeah, it was good. But that was an interesting time. Yeah, there were some people that were starting to really start to feel themselves, started to get more power than they did. Because Bruce was the head coach, but he's the offense coordinator, so he's dealing with the offense. And I don't think he had the full power of being a head coach. Was he the defensive coordinator?

I can't even remember. Greg Minuski, I believe, at that time. Dog. Fucking lost. We're talking handlebar mustache. He's a football lifer. I think he's probably still somewhere right now. He is. He's like a linebackers coach

or something. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He would coach like he would coach probably USFL which is terrible. So bad. Oh my god. It is so bad. Can't even watch it. Is it on? Yeah. Four networks. Yeah, Las Vegas. He's the man.

Greg Minoski's the fucking man. But, yeah, there was a little – it was an interesting dynamic, for sure, on how it all worked out. But Chuck ended up living, so that's good news. That's great news. You were there. And A.J. made a big-time tackle against Andrew Luck. Love that.

A.J., when you tackled Luck, did he do the thing where he congratulated you? Oh, nice. And when you tackled him, did you say, fuck your coach, we want to win? I did not, but I was – honestly, all I remember from him is after every play, him saying something to everybody. Like the whole, hey, good job, bro. Like he was always talking to people, and it was never like going – it was never bad.

It was always real respectful. It was really fun. Let's pull that photo back up. Were you getting blocked by Dwayne Allen? He was a fucking beast. He was huge. He was huge. He was an extension of left tackle whenever they put him out.

He was drafted in the same draft class as Luck and Kobe Fleener. Kobe Fleener was tight end for Andrew Luck out of Stanford. So I think Dwayne kind of felt a little certain way. So I don't know if he just took out his anger blocking or whatever. He was a fucking monster. He put him on the punt team too. Never been on the punt team before in his life. Did not deserve to be on the punt team.

He was on there trying his best. I love that, man. Just like I love all you guys. We're going to get home. Go take care of this baby a little bit. Thank you all for welcoming me back here in the studio. Ian, thank you for traveling out here and for making that desk and that microphone look bigger than it's ever been. I appreciate you.

Amen. This is kind of a. I appreciate you. Amen. This is kind of a mess a little bit. Yeah, it's problematic. Well, you added your computer. Not a mess. Well, I mean, first of all, how many screens do we need? Second of all, is it like papers all over? Well, they all do it.

This is phones. You brought your own fucking computer. This is phones. That's music. This was a TV that was over there. Mini belts. This mask. That's a. This was a TV that was over there. Mini belts. This mask. That's a title.

Belts hold up your fucking pants. That is a championship. You haven't earned one. Neither has that guy. He could, though. I know not to call it a belt, though. Is it not a belt? It's a championship.

World title. Learn about it. This is why I'm here, to learn new things? It's a championship. World title. You get killed for thinking. Learn about it. See, this is why I'm here, to learn new things. That's a title. I would like to give an update, though, for people. Yes. A lot of massive news coming out of this particular operation.

Probably in like the next 10 days. Wow. All right. So the clock is on. Text me. Yeah, maybe, actually. Hey, actually is on. Text me. So up. Yeah, maybe, actually. Hey, actually, actually, maybe.

You know what? Maybe. Throw your bone. So up to something season, it was decided whenever we were in Hawaii for the post-Super Bowl vacation that I wanted to have everything done before the baby got here. Baby came two weeks early. So, you know. Not your fault. Close, I guess. But yeah, up to some

season has wrapped. Whoa. There will be an announcement coming very soon. And it's the biggest. This is big. Okay. It is very large. I think some would call it historic. Whoa. I don't want to get too great. It It's not, Tone, you know.

I haven't seen you in five days. Everybody in here knows except for that guy. You guys all know because I just asked them and they all said they didn't know. Yeah, that's because you're a rat. That's your actual job. We are a tight hot. No cheese in here, pal. And the reason why is because the reason why all this has happened is because of how good the boys are.

So if they would have told you, they would go against everything that they are and that we are. And it would be a reason why we wouldn't be able to do what we're about to announce that we're doing. Just know that we are very thankful for everybody. And yeah, it's going to probably be in books someday.

If I had to guess. And very, very fortunate, happy, lucky, thankful, grateful. And, yeah, it should be in, like, the next 10 days or so. Okay. Holy shit. Yeah. Ian, a lot of conversations with a lot of people for this particular up-to-something season. Mm-hmm.

Wow. A lot of people. I mean, there's a lot of big-time humans that I was having conversations with that I could have never expected to be having conversations with. And everybody was so kind, so nice, thankful for everybody at all places that I talked to. But we found the right direction for us, and it's going to be pretty

larger. You know what the funny thing is? Is they probably were like, oh man, just talking to Pat McAfee, that was pretty cool. Can you guys believe that? Definitely a possibility. Not 100%, but it's possible. But you got to remember, though, like, so I'm representing myself in all this stuff. So, like, conversations are business and also, you know, like, that's a fine, that's a little bit of a balance.

Now that Lamar has signed his contract, you should have him on here and you could talk about representing yourself at the different, and have, like, a real, like, man-to-man conversation. He just negotiated a big boy. He's still releasing that on Lamar I-888-54. 7-7-5. Lamar Jackson Entertainment, I-7-7-5. You're a pig. Jesus. Don't embarrass the program.

All right, anyways, I appreciate you all so much. I'm going to get back to the baby and to the bride. We just got done feeding her. Hopefully she won't be as fussy and pissed off. And, yeah, she appreciate you all so much. I'm going to get back to the baby and to the bride. We just got done feeding her. Hopefully she won't be as fussy and pissed off. And, yeah, she'll be a great afternoon. I'm thankful to be living, just in general. Hell, yeah. Let's go.

Amen. We all should. Yep. Hell, yeah. I think a baby kind of puts that all in perspective. All right. For sure. I'm going to stop pissing off the mother of my daughter.

She is very calmly waiting, but I can see that the foot will start stomping at some point. I love you. Capping at some point. I love you all. Goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye. Hi, McAfee, ladies and gentlemen.

Hell yeah. Bye, Sam. Bye, baby. Still got the ears in in case he wants to hear it. Bye, baby. Bye, guys. Bye, guys. Bye, baby.

Matt's going to keep his ears in so he can hear us on the ride home. That's cool. You should break that news you're going to break now, then, so he can hear it still. I should, guys. Bye, baby. Pat's going to keep his ears in so he can hear us on the ride home. That's cool. You should break that news you're going to break now, then, so he can hear it still. Should, actually. With the tampering thing, when AJ was trying to get Bakhtiari and Devontae to the Jets this weekend, was that tampering?

Good question. It actually is a good question. Is he a friend, a source that's close to Aaron Rodgers? Yes, I'd probably consider it. That'd be a big pull, wouldn't it, if you got Devontae Adams, Anil Takhtari over there to the Jets? If I got, because you'd be the one doing it. So if I got Bakhtiari.

The one thing I was surprised about with the Randall Cobb thing, I mean, obviously, I think we all knew Randall Cobb was going to the Jets, but they got a lot of weapons. They do. Are they paying him to be a coach, or is was going to the Jets. But, like, they got a lot of weapons. They do. They got a lot of – Are they paying him to be a coach, or is he going to actually play on the field? I mean, he's only making $2 million or something like that. Randall Cobb will catch 18 balls this year,

and 15 of them will be on third downs for first downs. Exactly. That's right. Ten snaps a game. Here's the other thing. They also have a young receiver room, and he is a very veteran guy. Everyone's pointing out, sorry, you were just about to say something, but everyone's pointing out Corey Davis getting traded or released.

I would say that's one that I've sort of, and at one point, I thought, I mean, there was a couple times I thought he would go, and at one point I thought maybe Packers. Yeah, that's trade, yeah. You know, sort of including it. And I know there was discussion about, like, was, like, Elijah Moore going to be in the trade? Was Corey Davis?

Was he part of the trade? Yeah, he got traded to the Browns for the second round. Right. But I thought he was going to get traded. And then that was, like, a big discussion of like no players. Because I think what the Jets did not want was trading a bunch of players to the Packers and they all become awesome and it's like their trade looks worse. It's like picks and then whatever it is, it is.

But I think really good teams have done a great job of getting a veteran, a good person who can teach. AJ, you know this as well as anyone. Teach everything in the room. There's the big room and then there's the small rooms. And if you get a veteran who can teach in the small room, that is helpful. Especially, they can explain the offense. If anyone goes to any kind of game plan,

anytime you're installing an offense or defense, if you're a player that cares about it like you're gonna have 5 000 questions every single day about how you're playing this how you're playing that and a guy like randall yeah he can help those guys and always show them on the field what to do but also explain it afterwards and hey like this is why we do it like this uh all right let us table the football discussion. Okay. And bring on one of my good friends. Really? Noted basketball insider for multiple places. Outlets. Including

Stadium. Yeah, of course. The Athletic. Run it back show. Other things. Waking up with K. Lunch. Oatmeal with forks. Lunch. That's the name of the show. Oatmeal with forks.

Yeah. Lunch with Shams. Is that not the name of the K show? Come on in, Shams. Where are you? Let's go. Ian. Ian, what's up?

AJ, what's up? The boys, what's up? I feel like I'm pulling an AJ right now. I feel like I'm pulling an Ian and AJ. AJ comes on from anywhere. Ian, you come on from the car. So I feel like I'm you right now. So. AJ comes on from anywhere. Ian, you come on from the car. So I feel like I'm you right now. So I wanted to be you when I grew up. You are too nice and lying.

You look awesome. The hair is on point. Are you going to a game? What is happening in your world? I assume you're not driving. This is car service, right, going on here? Yeah, yeah. Thankfully, I'm not the one driving. I quit driving a long time ago. But no, I assume you're not driving. This is car service, right? Going on here? Yeah, thankfully I'm not the one driving.

I quit driving a long time ago. But no, I'm going to the studios. We have our studios here in Chicago for stadiums. Making my appearance in the studio basically is what I'm doing. Alright, so this might surprise you.

I'm not a basketball expert. What? I know. I did go to a Knicks game a couple years ago, which was really cool. One of my buddy's brothers is a college scouting director for the Knicks. Slow down.

Which is cool. It's basically like I'm a basketball expert. That's a good source. I was about to say I just found a source. I actually need to introduce. I do not think he'll be a good source. I'm sure he'll be a terrible source. He's a secret keeper, but he seems awesome. There was an issue last night with a technical foul. Big time.

And your boy Ishpia seemed to be in the middle of it. For those of us who maybe aren't exactly well-read in basketball, is everyone getting suspended? What's happening? Yeah, I mean, this playoffs has been interesting because Draymond Green got suspended for a play that the league even, throughout a day, like Ian, you go through it when guys, when there are incidents that happen in football,

it's like the league is going through their own investigation. They're going through their own process. And throughout the day, when Draymond Green got suspended, the league was leaning toward not suspending him. And adam silver rules yes we are going to give him a one game suspension the jay ma green serves that in that king series and then now nicole yoka gets into this incident where he didn't go into the stands if he went into the stands definitely would have been grounds for one game suspension probably if he hits a normal fan it's it's it might be grounds for suspension but here you have a case case where Matt Ishbia has the ball in his hands.

He looks like he was letting go of the ball or was going to let go of the ball the moment he saw Nikola Jokic. And the ball kind of got sprung loose. Matt Ishbia was still in the vicinity. And Nikola Jokic gives him a little, you know, brush. I don't think – clearly Matt Ishbia today, you know, right there you got – Yeah, he is a dog. He got right in the mix. And shout clearly Matt Ishbia today, right there you got – Yeah, he is a dog. He got right in the mix.

And shout out Matt Ishbia. He played at MSU. He was a walk-on at MSU. So I don't know if this is his flop – I don't know what it is. Is it a flop? I mean, I was about to ask. Was that soccer style? He's trying to take a blocker in charge, right?

So only the refs know how they wanted to call it. Clearly, they might have been in favor of Ishpia because they gave Nikola Jokic a technical. I think that's where they leave it at. But today they're going to review the play. And Matt Ishpia came out with a tweet that he hopes that there is no suspension for Nikola Jokic. He wants the focus to only be on the Suns, the Nuggets.

And for him, he wants the focus to be on Kevin Durant, Devin Booker, who have been absolutely amazing this entire playoffs. Yeah, I mean, it seems that adding Kevin Durant to the mix might help a team. They seem to be in a good spot. Boston Connors, I've got a question for you. Yeah, Shams, good to see you. You know, if you want to get your joke in now, feel free. Yo, I don't want to take any time.

Okay, fair enough. Either way, it doesn't matter. You're still on AT&T, and we know that's a terrible network compared to Verizon. But now that the Celtics-Sixers game, or series rather, is tied, similar with the Suns-Nuggets, I wanted to ask you about what doc rivers said uh in his post-game press conference there was a pretty clear as a celtics fan i can even admit it there's a pretty clear you know push off a little bit on jason tatum he ended up

hitting a step back three would have been probably the biggest discussion today aside from the yokich and uh whatever it should be uh know, the whole entire technical situation, is there a massive chance that one of these games is going to come down to a call like that and we're going to have to talk about the referees and the NBA? Or do you think that because how the series is, both sides of them, that they're just going to let the boys play here and see who's the better team in these last three games?

I would say they would let them play, but even down the stretch of that game and i think dr spoke to this too there were a couple chippy fouls called one on pj tucker where he was literally brushing on marcus smart marcus smart was making it making a cut down the lane and it was a ticky tack foul for sure um and then they and then they let it go on jason tatum and i think tyree's maxi i said it today on running back i think tyree's maxi could have definitely sold. And if he probably did it, you know, flailed his arms maybe like Matt Ishpia. You know, Matt Ishpia, MSU, that's probably what Tom Izzo was teaching back in the day. But I think Tyrese Maxey could have sold that, and they probably would have gotten an offensive foul.

He didn't. He stood firm. Jason Tatum set three. I do think overall they're going to let these two teams uh duke it out and figure it out on the court but every you know how it goes boston connor all these games are going to be determined by last second calls technical fouls free throws and even even the lakers warriors game uh the other night um i mean game three that was decided by free throws in some extent steve kerr said the officiating didn't decide the game. The Lakers shot 37 free throws, and the Warriors at one point had only shot seven or eight. It was in the fourth quarter.

Free throw discrepancy, officiating, that's all part of the game for sure. Shams, Ty Smich, got a question for you? Yeah, Shams, speaking of Lakers-Warriors, after Game 3, LeBron, he said that basically that game didn't matter. He was a winner no matter what because Bronny signed with USC, and that was just a nice little cherry on top. Are all signs pointing to Bronny going to USC for a year? Because I know a lot of people have said, hey, LeBron might not be with the Lakers.

He wants to go somewhere else where he can play with his son. Are we basically staring down the barrel of Bronny going to USC for a year, getting picked in potentially maybe the first round or probably the second round of the draft, and him playing with LeBron within the next two years? Well, if the Lakers

can have a pick in that first round, in range, to drop Bronny James, I mean, that is clearly what LeBron James wants to do. He said even the other night he's serious about playing with Bronny in the NBA. So I think right now there's no question. LeBron James, he's been saying it for the last couple of years. He wants to play with Bronny James at the next level. It would be a father-son duo on the next level. He wants to do that.

I think the Lakers are in position. They look like they're in a great place. They have some pick flexibility in the next couple of years to be able to draft a guy like Bronny James for sure. Wait, so it seems to me that LeBron is kind of in a Tom Brady situation. I'm sort of waiting for him to retire. Do you get the sense he's close to retiring at all? I don't, Ian.

I don't think we're year to year like you have been in the last several years with Tom Brady. I really think LeBron James, the way he's playing now at 38, he's probably got three, four years left at this level. And even a guy like that, like Kobe, he wasn't his peak self his last couple years. I mean, we're seeing LeBron's not at his peak right now, but he's pretty close to what we've seen from him year after year after year. So I do think that we're not at that point where it's year to year with LeBron quite yet. Tone Diggs has a question for you.

Yeah, Shams, I don't think we've talked about this yet. Ian, I think I asked him earlier. He said he wasn't mad, but did you get any blowback from tweeting out the NFL draft picks? Honestly, I got a little bit of... I saw a little blowback.

I did text Ian before I did number one. I got number two. I got a little thirsty. I got a little desperate. The blowback I got did text Ian before I did number one. I got number two. I got a little thirsty. I got a little desperate. The blowback I got was with the third pick. Will Anderson. I wouldn't say botch. Who went number three? Ian, who went number three?

Who went number three overall? Will Anderson did go three. Who owned the pick? Now, again, it got traded. Formerly, the Cardinals, they did own the pick. I will say pick? Now, again, it got traded. Formerly, formerly the Cardinals. They did own the pick. So I will say that I think I could have done a better job at following through. That's why Ian gets paid the big, big, big, big, big bucks.

I get paid the big bucks. So there's a difference here. But, no, I mean, the one big difference, Ian, with the NFL and the NBA is in the NBA, we don't – like players don't get to switch their hats and their jerseys when they go up on stage and shake hands with the NFL and the NBA is in the NBA, we don't like players don't get to switch their hats and their jerseys when they go up on stage and shake hands with the commissioner. They usually find out even after their press conference. So I remember one year, Mikael Bridges, he got traded from the Sixers to the Suns. He got traded from the Sixers to the Suns. He had a Sixers cap on. He does a six. He does a press conference with Sixers jersey next to him,

Sixers hat. But like 30 minutes prior to to that I had already reported that he got traded from the Sixers to the Suns but he got announced you know so there's that little discrepancy between the NBA and the NFL I guess that gives me a little bit of an out but next year I'm just letting you know Ian I'm just sharpening my toolbox oh my gosh my mads have an insider's fight uh not we actually may uh aj's got a question for you what's up aj shams uh the warriors play the lakers tonight and i know you mentioned a little bit before you came on the show i believe last week something about steph curry kind of rallied the troops had a little speech before uh what game two i believe maybe um do the warriors like each other do they get along like what's the what's the chemistry

like in there yeah that was actually before game seven. So literally their season, their dynasty, everything is flashing before them. Steph Curry, who never, you know, rarely ever speaks, definitely doesn't address the team like that. It's like once every couple of years where he will actually address a team, which is kind of interesting for a guy that's, you know, he's the face of the franchise, cornerstone. But, yeah, he told the team, like, if you don't want to show up,

you don't want to put your feelings to the side, don't show up. Stay at home. Don't come on the bus. And so, obviously, everyone showed up. Everyone came on the bus, and they played really well. Maybe he needed to give the same speech, I think, before this game. This is a big game for tonight. Huge.

I would expect the Warriors to make adjustments tonight. Steph Curry kind of hinted at that yesterday. I do think there are some adjustments coming. I don't want to hint too much on this show, but I would expect that tonight. Steve Kerr is the man when it comes to making adjustments, whether

it's lineups, tweaks. There it is. You just gave it away, Choms. Who is it? We'll see what happens. I didn't give anything. Jordan Poole is starting tonight. Jordan Poole is starting tonight. Chomps just said it. We'll see what happens tonight.

But I do think overall this year, AJ, winning cures everything. And I think if this team can win tonight, I think everything is going to be good. If this team struggles, there's going to be moments that are tense. I think like there is with every team, but even, you know, especially with this team, you have a group of veterans and you have a group of really young players and it doesn't matter what sport you cover.

Anytime you have that dynamic where you have a bunch of young guys looking at ascending and you have an older crop of veteran players, there's going to be some level of a dynamic on a day-to-day basis. Choms, last question for you. Then we'll get you out of here to go do your actual job. The season is long. The offseason is wild. I actually love the basketball offseason

maybe more than the actual regular season. For you, for the job that we have, what is the playoffs like for you? Is it intense because there's not a lot of things, but what's going on is important? Where does this fit into your insider calendar yeah i mean the playoffs are fun because i can actually focus on you know or focus a little bit more on what i really love is the game right right like we have to love the game to love the sport you know the sport that we cover so i love

basketball so i love watching these games high intensity this is why you um you know why you become an nba fan a basketball fan so first and foremost it gives me a great opportunity to refresh and refocus on really watching the games on a day-to-day basis because you're not tracking trades you're not tracking free agency signings at this point in the season so right now for me I just get to dive right into the games and honestly report and cover a little bit more on games like fans are so enthusiastic about you know what's the rotation who's starting who's out who's injured so the right into the games and honestly report and cover a little bit more on games. Like fans are so enthusiastic about, you know,

what's the rotation, who's starting, who's out, who's injured. So the news and what fans are focused on just shifts just a little bit. Uh, I said, last thing I maybe lied.

Uh, touchment has one quick thing for you. Yeah. Shams, we talked about this last week after you were on, uh, are we, what's the deal here?

Are we planning to fight fire with fire when Dylan Brooks' agent fucking called you out and said you were a scumbag? Hashtag weirdo. Have you responded to that? Do we need to get feet to the pavement and get some answers to this guy? I can't believe you asked that. Got your back, Shams. I got your back too, Shams.

We got your back, Shams. You're not a hashtag weirdo. Ian's a vet. Ian, how would you answer this one? How would you answer this one if you're me? And then I'll give you mine. I'll tell you. Moe Gates was like Ian Rappaport's an absolute weirdo.

I stand 100% by it, but I want to see what Ian's response would be. You should stand by it. It was right. 145 million percent. Of course. It was right. What I would say, if we're talking about this for real, is I would text the agent or call the agent and be like, that wasn't cool. You know that was the truth.

So if you want to call me and talk about it and figure this out, my line is open. Let's do that. Otherwise, don't put out these weird statements that are like, just call call me talk about it like a human we'll figure this out if i was wrong which i'm not then i'll say something but otherwise like let's deal with this instead of kind of like through the media because basically if he's upset that you did it through the media he literally did it the same exact way you know what i mean what what 100 100? 100, 100%. And yeah, so I'm going to stand by it. I think, you know, there's a way to handle different things. And, you know, I guess I'm a weirdo.

So no, you're not. We're all kind of weird. We're all kind of weird. If you're a weirdo, he's a hashtag scumbag. Hashtag scumbag. Let's go. All right, Choms. Thank you.

Go do your job. We are going to. Well, we'll talk about you after you leave. So bye. Thank you. Cheers, Shams. Well said, Ian. Every once in a while when I say goodbye, I'm like, maybe I'll just try to listen in and see if they see something.

That's smart. But then Zito kind of just cancels me off the FaceTime, and I'm like, oh, what did that? And now since there's no way for me to hear what you guys were saying. I think I know the answer to this question, but I'm going to ask it anyways. Is the insider world a FaceTime world or a just standard phone call world? I am not a great FaceTime guy. What's that?

That would make actually the most sense. Those texts don't disappear. That's a lie. Ask a certain comedian who didn't know that either. Those texts don't disappear. That's a lie. Ask a certain comedian who didn't know that either. No, that's Snapchat. And they don't disappear. Signal disappears, right? Doesn't Signal the one that disappears?

Well, WhatsApp's whole thing is that they're encrypted. That seems fake. I mean, I don't know how it works. I'm just telling you. Any encryption can get beat. Oh, it's encrypted so I can do whatever I want? Bingo. That's why the Chinese government's

using it. Ever heard of communism? I have heard of communism. Because it sponsors WhatsApp. But also Snapchat, right? And TikTok. I'm sorry. Don't get me started on TikTok.

I don't know anything. These are not official statements. It's not on my phone, god damn it. am on signal um for a couple group chats for people who need to be on signal not me and then i'll see people because it'll say like which of your contact are you any guys in signal no i've never even heard of it actually either right now oh so this is a deep so the uh the text messages vanish after like 18 hours or 24 hours, whatever. You can set it. But so I'm on it just because the people I'm in group chat with need to be on it. Like owners.

Whoever it is. Government officials or what? Wexy. Yeah, those jobs like that. Columbia grads. And then I see people on because it's like so-and-so in your contact or is on signal. I'm like, what's this person doing on there? What's this person doing?

Like, why do they got to be? Yeah. Shady world that I've entered into. Have you ever had to deal with what Sean was dealing with of some agent? Like not Mola Gata, but like some random dude's agent saying Ian Rappaport's a hashtag weirdo. Not hashtag weirdo because I feel like that's already accepted. Like no one would call me a weirdo because everyone would be like, yeah, we know. Yeah, sure.

If they call me short, it's like, good one, guys. Yeah, yeah. I have had to deal with this a lot. And what happens in my world is not agents because agents in the NFL world really don't speak out. Like even for good stuff, like Drew Rosenhaus does it, but only like on behalf of his clients as sort of like statements to explain he would never like i don't think he would call out someone by name like that does not happen in the nfl but what does happen is like let's say you go on sunday mornings you say like you know this coach could be fired and then the coach or the gm or the owner will on post game be

like this guy doesn't know what he's talking about. When I said – Jerry Jones, when I said that Dak Prescott was looking at the franchise tag, was going to be franchise tagged the first time. No, second time. Jerry Jones went on radio and was like, he doesn't know what he's talking about, which obviously he did get franchise, whatever. But it happens, and Jerry Jones is not going to call up and say like hey let's talk about it but the only way to deal with it is to call the person be like you want to yell

at me yell at me yeah let's go like i will and i become like so numb to this that like if someone will call me up and scream at me like i'm fine well talk to me they don't care about you though they want their call they're looking out for their client. They don't want those, under any circumstances, being known to the public, right? Isn't that what they're trying to do? Yeah, and I think what you probably know and could speak to this, AJ, is there's a lot of times when coaches or owners or GMs or whatever will respond to the media in a way that's maybe not complimented to the media,

but they're speaking to their team. They are speaking to the locker room. Through the media, yeah. Coaches do it all the time, especially post-game pressers. I think coaches even mention that to their teams. They'll tell you, if your coach is speaking in front of a microphone, you should probably listen if you're on that team. Absolutely.

All right, let's take a small break. Is that cool? Yeah. You guys need a break? By the way, you were doing the whole entire thing. You had the That Business Baby mug the whole time. The mug that you were drinking from just says, That's Business Baby.

That was just perfect branding for that. There you go. I did that on purpose. Yeah, it's genius. You know, usually I drink out of the Yeti mugs. Drinking out of a regular mug feels old school. What do you got in there? What are you drinking?

Low glass. Low wiggy. Why? Just coffee. Just coffee. Do you hear the beat drop? Do you see? Do you hear?

Do you see what we're doing? We went through this last time. I do not hear it. I also don't hear song lyrics. So even some of my favorite songs, I don't even know all the lyrics to, even though I've been singing them wrongly for 30 years. Well, it's like the Rocketman commercial I used to do around Elton John,

where everyone sings a different line of that song because no one knows exactly what he is saying. That sounds about right. Like the burning up, because I don't fucking know what he's saying either, but it's burning up his views up there alone. Yeah, but everyone sings it differently. I'd have to get the cassette tape, put it in, record it, write it down. Bingo.

Or Google it on your phone. Or Google it. That's what I always do. I do appreciate the Apple Music thing where you can just read the lyrics now. That did not exist when we were young. No, it didn't. Yeah, they have it on Spotify, too. It's pretty sweet.

It's like a teleprompter for the lyrics, yeah. Bingo. That's like what we all have uh in the camera for what we're supposed to say yeah you didn't know that until you know some shows do that a lot of those do our show does that that's why we always had to go like opinion shows are right not like opinion shows right sorry no no but like especially if you have like a not everyone is like our good friend shams who can just answer any question without even like some guests need a heads up oh ian's going off script right now oh jesus oh

pause the pause the prompter by the way i know some people definitely want to know what you're going to ask him beforehand are you saying that more like hey send me like what question no some people are like send me like on some shows like i need the words. Well, we have a writer, and thankfully he didn't go on strike. I'm not fucking going on strike, too. Mitt writes all of our stuff. Yeah, Mitt writes it. There's our lead writer right there. We see you, Mitt.

Thank you, Mitt. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Is that a mullet? Does he have a mullet? Because he's busy writing. Slow down, rap. No, sweet. There he is.

It's like the reverse V. I didn't see the back look of it what is he doing yeah look dude i have a mohawk bro he looks like no you don't you have a mullet no i have seen a mullet that is a mullet that's not a mullet never seen a mullet in your entire life if you think this is a mullet. Let's keep going with this. I like this. It's long in the back is a mullet. Actually, to be completely fair, mine really isn't a mullet anymore because the top of my head is so long. It's kind of a... Your skullet?

It's just kind of turned into long hair. It's kind of long hair. Yeah, bingo. Sick flow. Hell yeah. All right. I feel like I'm at the zoo watching the apes. I think that's about right.

Yeah. Are we getting – what time is Darius Beller coming? I think right now. Right now is he waiting for us, listening to you in any conversation? Hopefully not because that was a terrible two minutes. We're calling him now. Calling him now? Perfect.

Hopefully he'll answer. Darius Beller, who has spent a fun weekend hanging out in miami and watching f1 which i think is his favorite sport he loves it he'll come in here before the show and he's he's watching time trials and stuff jay leno him and leno are best friends now yeah yeah i i mean did you guys see bezos this weekend he's probably shocked yeah he's so let's not let no one cares about the race no this weekend you don't want one cares about the race this weekend? You don't want to talk about the race? Tom Cruise stole the show.

Yeah. Okay. He was in the pit. He basically ran, you know, comms for someone's car. The entire pick of Mercedes, I believe. Is he working on another racing movie? Is he going to be cultural again? Brad Pitt is, right? I mean, look, Brad Pitt, you better tread carefully, my friend.

Yeah. Yeah, you bet. Don't just say another movie. Anything Tom Cruise does is the greatest thing on the planet. Turns to gold. I mean, I watched the new Top Gun, and that was wild. Did you see him accept his MTV award? Did you see how he did it, Ian?

Because I bet even D-Butt would want to see this. Let's bring in Darius Butler. That boy, D-Butt! Let's go! Yo, yo, yo. What's up, fellas? What's happening? How was the weekend? Ian, can you hit one of the fucking intro? I mean, come on.

You booed all over me. What's going on over here? Not only that, not only can I not hit it, but I've actually focused on it twice and have been caught completely off guard when they do it and the first hour was damn near perfect it was even though it was happening right yeah some people you know it's like when you know you're roaming some sort of defensive backfield and you're watching a quarterback and you're like this guy can't read at all like he's true. Did you see Tom

Cruz in the pits changing tires? Did you touch him? I felt his aura. I felt his aura. He was in there. He was locked in. He had the gloves on. He had the headset on. It was a lot of hooliganism. Mercedes, their garage is usually the most packed, most star-studded, but Tom Cruz

is in there. It's actually Brad Pitt that's doing the F1 movie. Brad Pitt. Correct. Dampson Idris. And they're actually really driving the F1 car. They literally built the car. It's the same directors from Top Gun, Maverick.

The cameras are going to be insane. It'll be it. Yep. Him and Brockheimer, the producer. It's going to be fucking dope. Wow. Hell yeah. You got to get yourself a cameo. Did you see that screenshot of Tom Cruise there, Brad? That's exactly what he said. No, I missed it. I missed serious. It's going to be fucking dope. Wow. Hell yeah. You got to get yourself a cameo.

Did you see that screenshot of Tom Cruise there? That's exactly it. No, I missed it. That's how he accepted his interview. You can see it in the back seat. Yeah, yeah. This is a video. Oh, my God.

He did, what's the, Joseph Kornacki, that's the director's name? Kaczynski. Yeah, Kaczynski, my bad. So he said Tom Cruise immediately reached out to him when he told him he was doing a Formula One movie and told him he'd do all the stunt driving for Brad Pitt if he needed to. He said he'd keep him on speed dial, so I'd be looking forward to it. Yeah, he can do all this.

He's actually flying this plane. Oh, of course. Him and Jimmy Graham. Are you kidding me? I mean, Jimmy Graham's not even in the same conversation. I mean, look how he flies this jet. He's an ace pilot. Did AJ ever explain why he said fuck it to the –

I saw Jimmy Graham was doing it. Everybody else was doing it. What is this, AJ? Yeah, tell us. Honestly, I don't know. I started doing it years ago, and then so I just stopped, and then everyone else is doing it. So that's basically what it is. For no reason, I was trying to mess up a picture 10 years ago, and then so I just stopped, and then everyone else is doing it. So that's basically what it is.

For no reason, I was trying to mess up a picture 10 years ago, and it became a thing. So that's how it is. So you were the cool kid. I respect it. No, I'm still – You're making good time out there. Yeah, they were just trying to push me too much to do it,

so I was like, no, it's got to be organic, guys. Also, who's Allen, AJ, the crew and Allen? So Allen's not in the crew. Bizarre. Bizarre. So he's not in the crew. Bazaard. So he's not in the crew, though? No, he just went in this picture right here, if you see. No, he is in the picture.

No, I guess because Allen was the first rookie. That's why. It was his first year ever coming. Oh, so this is a hazing situation. Wow. He didn't get jumped in. He didn't get jumped in. Oh, is that why he has his?

He's doing like Spider-Man. Yeah, I don't know. He has his palms up. He was a great dude. Oh, I don't know. He has his palms up. He was a great dude. So, Allen didn't get it yet. Next year. Next year, he'll be on.

Nobody. That'll make sense. D-Bud, how was the weekend, though? How did it measure up compared to last year? And what kind of access did you get? That's what I want to know. Are you, like, you get to touch cars? You're walking in the paddock? Jay Leno.

Yeah, sparring with Jay Leno. Jay Leno was fucking awesome. Jay Leno was cool. 73, I think. Still kicking, still doing it. But the whole weekend was fucking dope. I was like a kid in the candy store. Had some great access.

Shout out to Alpha Romeo pretty much hosting me for the weekend. But they gave me access to the garage. Couldn't take any pictures or videos in there. Everything's kind of top secret. but you get to see the engine, the cars, the drivers. It was better than last year. You know, they built, they put all the team kind of, their headquarters inside.

Shout out Jay. Shout out. Go Jay. Dress the body. God, that's a handsome man. He's sharp. He's sharp. Jay's sharp.

They had it all inside of the Hard Rock Stadium. But the paddock, I was fortunate enough to be up in the paddock club to speak about access. Rap sheet, I was in the paddock with, you know, a lot of schmoozing up there. But it was dope, man. I actually got to meet the Andretti, their crew, Andretti and Gamebridge. And they're out there. They're based in Indy, but they're trying to get into F1. They're trying to put a bid in.

Cadillac will be kind of their motor partner. They got a lot of money behind them. But it was a super, super dope weekend. Obviously, a bunch of, you know, celebrities were out there, but the fans were electric. The race was cool. Max Verstappen, shocker, shocker, he won again. But it was a dope weekend, though, for F1 and definitely down here in Miami.

Hold on a sec. So there's 20 cars cars 10 teams right would there be 22 or would they bounce someone if cadillac got in it would be 22 to be the 11th team on the grid which um will start in 10 weeks or nine weeks now that's when that they'll start recording that movie so in the movie they're actually going to be a car on the grid throughout the race week brad and damson are actually going to be driving the cars as well. So that'll be dope. But yeah, it'll be two more drivers on the grid. One more team. So right now it's 10 teams. Each team has two drivers.

Very similar machinery as far as the car. Sometimes they'll change the setup or whatnot. But Red Bull, you see me in the sim right there. I got to – this made me for sure have to invest in one of these Sims. This was pretty fun right here. The kid next to me, he was on that thing for probably like an hour straight, just crashing, driving with no hands. It was fucking awesome though. What was your fastest lap there? I forgot.

I think that might have been – that was in Miami. So I did Miami and Brazil. I forget the lap times. I'm going to say low 130s. You said you felt Tom, or TC's aura. Was there anyone that you actually saw that you were surprised was at F1 and not the Derby? And that's, you know, I don't like that they do that both weekends,

the same weekend, because then, you know, all the stars started to vent, and they got to pick one of the two. It's bullshit. You know, a lot of, so Mahomes, I feel like he was everywhere. Mahomes, he was at Met Gala, he was at the Derby, and he ended up at the race as well. Saw Mahomes there. A lot of football guys. I've seen

a bunch of the Dolphins guys. Saw Prescott and Dak and CeeDee Lamb. My favorite person I saw, though, was DJ Khaled. Miami homegrown. He spent a very little bit of time with him, but person I saw though was DJ Khaled. Khaled, you know, Miami homegrown. No! He was, he spent a little,

very little bit of time with him, but Khaled was electric. Got to try Jimmy Butler, Hemi Butler's coffee, big face coffee. They had a stand down there, so it was dope. But you saw everybody. I mean, the Williams sisters, Serena and Venus, Jackie Stewart, old throwback race driver,

literally everybody. You know Miami, they tried to invite as many celebrities out as possible. It was a pretty, pretty dope event. It was hot. It was hot as hell down there, so if you didn't have shade, that was tough. But a great event. Do you know if Antonio El Ala Express Franchises was

there by any chance? Who's that? Sometimes goes by Antonio. Sounds like a foreign national. Oh, nails it. Not sure who that person is. I can't confirm or deny if that person was in attendance.

Did you have one of those Wagyu subs that were like 50 bucks and it turned out just to be a ham and cheese? Hey, the prices i mean they got i know it is the pinnacle of motorsports and it's a bougie and it's a lot of gatekeep that shit's ridiculous in miami they're gonna do it obviously up to the nines the vegas race will probably be even worse but uh the pricing on everything was pretty ridiculous but uh i had to hook up tickets like the food has to be $1,000?

Some of the prices were absurd. I saw something like $350. I don't know. How is this even real? It does say serve four people, so I guess it breaks down a little better, but that is fucking ridiculous.

Is there an infield like the Kentucky Derby? There's an infield where college kids go get hammered and run on top of porta-potties, I guess, in the other races. Is there like an infield, like the Kentucky Derby, there's an infield where college kids go get hammered and run on top of porta-potties, I guess, in the other races. But is there anything like that where just people can go that don't have a billion dollars? Is there a lot of boozing? No. You know what?

It's very pay-to-play with F1. But once you do pay, the access is better than probably any other sport. Like, literally, drivers are, you know, walking right by you. People don't bother them for the most part. They do have, like, the grid walk, pit walk, where it's a lot. You have to be kind of like, damn, the A-list celebrity to get on there, like, right before the race. Literally, that's when they're taking the tire covers off and drivers are actually in their car. But you have the pit lane walk.

What's that? Kind of like me walking on the track at Churchill Downs before the race. Kind of like that. That. You know, I did Indy 500. You know, you kiss the brick and you do that thing. I think that was pretty cool. So it's somewhat similar to that.

But once again, you got to pay to play, especially down here in Miami. Did you see Elon? Was Elon wandering around the same area you were? Missed Elon. I saw he was there Saturday. He might have been there for qualifying. I don't know if he stayed around for the race. Did not see Elon. Did not see Bezos.

No, I didn't see those guys. Missed those guys, unfortunately. Can you set the scene as far... Where is everyone? Is there a big room? Is there just like a lot of different, like where are the like celebrities like yourself kind of hanging out?

So it's a big track. So the track is a little over three and a half miles, right? So you can be at the event and clearly obviously not see anybody. So you're really spread out. It's I think 19 turns at this track. So the grandstands are at the turn. I was in the paddock club.

So the paddock club is basically, so if you're looking at the race, you know where everyone does their pit stop. So right above their garages are all the paddocks. So it's, I think, three levels of paddocks. And a lot of big companies will buy these suites, and then they'll invite their different guests, and they'll invite people there. So fortunately, that's where I was. That's where the race starts and obviously where it ends as well um so that's where you see you see the action going into turn one and then coming out of the last turn uh going into the checkered flag but uh so people are all over though i mean you had different poolside suites you got the fake

yachts with i mean real yachts with fake water where people bought. So you got a bunch of different setups that you can watch the race. But it was a pretty dope event overall. I got to get you guys out to at least one somewhere. D-Bud, I saw Sir Lewis Hamilton walking in in a sweet, sweet outfit. Do all the drivers wear fits in? Is there a red carpet when the drivers show up? Or was that just for Sir Lewis Hamilton? Youilton so you know sir lewis he goes he he pushes the envelope he's fast i know he was hot as fuck and that shit he had on it was 90 plus degrees he had full purple sequence

head to toe i don't know how he did that the day before he was just hot shit too but um now so the drivers typically they obviously they go all around the world so when they go into the different places like austin for instance a bunch of them had like cowboy hats and boots and shit like that and you know yeah a lot of guys had like short sets on with a lot of the you know miami palm tree type uh print so they kind of lean into especially in america america you know we do all the extra shit we had We had LL Cool J do the driver intros. Hell yeah. The driver's on the grill for an extra 25 minutes just sweating their asses off. But, you know, they got to do the most when you bring it over here to the States.

But, yeah, look, I mean, this, like, what are we doing here? DJ Khaled driving? Is he driving in the car with Brad Pitt in that movie, or what's he doing there? Side car, I think. They're putting him in a sidecar. Giving him the dog goggles. I thought he was a crew chief. I doubt Calum will be in that movie. That's going to be a dope one,

though. Well, he should be. You did mention something, though, Verstappen, and you're saying we should get to a race, maybe, but is Verstappen just the guy? That maybe sounds like Conor's not going to get in. Well, I need a little. I would go.

I need some differences here. Every single weekend, it's another big F1 race. Who's going to win? And then Verstappen wins. I mean, what's the deal here? Do we have any parity in this? I mean, you know, sometimes you just got shit figured out. You got a great driver.

You got great machinery. You know, we had a hockey team this year that just had everything you know all clicking on all cylinders throughout the regular season greatest regular season ever sometimes okay asshole so it is hard this year when they got shit figured out it just completely a couple steps ahead of the field right now you got some upgrades coming in a few weeks for the other cars but as of right now it looks like it's going to be but this is a good thing about it though so Red Bull does have they do have a rocket ship of a car but you got two drivers so it's kind of like a one-two race every weekend so Checo Perez he started out in the lead Max started out in nine this weekend and still ended up uh beating him but um so you still have

that battle there and then after Red Bull you, you got Aston Martin, you got Ferrari, you got Mercedes who kind of battle and keep it close. So it is some entertainment. It was a lot of overtakes, no accidents, no safety cars this weekend. No fights, though. I saw NASCAR had a little great fight. Hell, yeah. Great fight, yeah.

Nice, clean right hook. So I'd like to see that. I would like to add that to F1 a little bit. I'm a very much novice F1 fan, but I watch the Netflix series. Have you guys seen this? Drive to Survive. I have not. Drive to Survive, Mark. I like it.

You should watch it. It's fantastic. Those drivers don't care. They will say whatever. The principles are worse, or better, I guess. They say whatever they want. Now, you're right. They will say whatever. And the principles are worse or better, I guess. Oh, yeah. They say whatever they want. Now, you're right. They didn't punch each other, but you obviously are a big fan.

A lot of Europeans, you know. Right. Whoa. I'm just kind of waiting to see where that was going to go. I mean, I was born in Europe, so. You can do it. Yeah, no offense. I like to make Jewish jokes. Say whatever I want.

Whoa. Let's relax here. Let's move along here. You guys are acting like you're calling games for the Oakland A's. No. That was respectful. That was respectful.

Jeez Louise, you guys. Jeez. I was going to say before I rudely interrupted myself, was the now that you're like a hardcore F1 fan, was that what brought you in or was it like the engines or like for these guys

who clearly don't care about the sport that you love? Whoa. So I caught it on ESPN. I caught one race. I honestly caught like the lead up to the race and you see the drivers and you see kind of the drama and the history of them, blah, blah. Then I actually watched the race and then you see the strategy and the principals who are pretty much coaches. But then all these other people who play these important parts into, you know, the driver getting out there and performing in the car. So that engaged me.

And then seeing the sponsors the big businesses you know the business of sports always um interests me as well and then i got into the series the drive to survive series that was popular a couple years before but i i've never been into motorsports like i was in indy for six years i went to one 8500 race never really watched nascar used to play the video game back in the day with you know earnhardt and jeff gordon those guys but never really got into the motorsports but all of the drama and all the shit behind it um kind of got me that you got a peek behind the scene in the netflix series and then uh once i started watching it you know i was kind of hooked and it starts the season starts in march so that's like a month after football season

in so it's kind of perfect for me looking for something to get into because basketball is not really entertaining to me until like playoff time um so you know it was like the perfect the perfect match right there with uh me and formula one and i'm enjoying it so far and it's obviously pretty new in america so it's a lot of people who are getting into it at the same time as i am so it's uh it's been pretty fun can i see the nascar punch oh it's unbelievable because i i saw a little bit on the Twitter. He was trying to come back and he got held back by the old security guy. That's the way that works, AJ.

I fell for the dude. I really did. He knows right here you're in play, buddy. You can get hit. But yeah, the security guy grabs his right arm. He grabbed him first. Once you do that, you gotta know a swing. Smart. Clean hook. Oh, I didn't even see that white hold on so he was about to respond and that dude's like no no you don't get your and then that guy's

actually saying the dude who lands that right hook is saying let him go let him go because he was about to teach him a lesson yeah when he's saying you can't grab somebody not expect a punch oh man especially the way he did it too yeah grabbed him yoked him up yeah and he's and he's saying i don't want to do this everybody out there ross chastain doesn't fuck around either especially not when some guy with a bowl cut comes up and lays hands on hey i mean boom oh hey that ain't the first that ain't the first hook he throw no that was clean i mean i was thinking about this. There's been some really good sports fights.

In football, not as much because anytime you see anyone swinging at a helmet, you're always like, wow, that guy's an idiot. Andre Johnson. Andre Johnson. Corwin Finnegan. That was right? Yep. That's really in the pantheon of all-time great sports fights. Absolutely.

That had to be one of the best sports punches I've ever seen. Pretty good. Because you watch a basketball fight. It's like they're throwing ropes around, trying to catch each other. It's terrible. That was actually pretty good. Baseball, actually. I forget who was it, but someone landed a hook on, what is it, Joey Batista?

At second base. Yeah, at second base. At second base, bingo. And his helmet popped off. It looked like he almost had aista? At second base. Yeah, at second base. At second base, bingo. And he like, his helmet popped off. It looked like he almost. Rugnet Odor. At second base? Rugnet Odor, that's right.

It was so clean. Well, and also Pedro Martinez grabbing Don Zimmer by the head and flinging his life as a body. That was pretty good. Well, that fat buffoon had it coming. He shouldn't have been running that Pedro Martinez like that. He's dead. We need a compilation.

All right, BD. I do remember running that Pedro Martinez like that. He's dead. We need a compilation. Best sports fights. RIP to you. I do remember that. I do remember that. That one was landed so clean, that helmet just jacked off his head. You're right. Another one where it's like, not his first punch, I would say. That's got to be in the man cave.

I mean, look at that forearm, too. That thing did not feel good. So do you think in his house, he has what, a poster of that? Oh, yeah. Massive. Oh, yeah. You got to add that in the main case. What about practice?

Oh, yeah. Do you guys ever get in fights at practice? Training camp, I mean, there was always going to be a scrum, a fight. Usually the big guys, usually the big guys in the trenches, somebody's going to get in a fight. Not you, too. I only got a little squabble with Edelman. Edelman was the only teammate, and it was a very quick, you know, little squabble in practice. He's a little fight. Not you two. I only got a little squabble with Edelman. Edelman was the only teammate, and it was a very quick, you know,

little squabble and practice. He's a little fight. Yeah, start blocking after the play. But that was probably the only fight I had. Do you have to run laps? Do you have to run laps after that? I think we may have got kicked out of practice. We may have gotten it because that was Bill's thing.

What do you do if you're going to – do you shower? Do you go run in the weight thing. What do you do? Do you shower? Do you go run in the weight room? What do you do? Just sit in the locker room. But it was, like, so quick. I think Bill made a joke. I'm like, what the fuck was that? I was feeling like a good fight.

But it was – look, that's too much energy. Once it's hot outside especially, you get into the eighth, ninth period of the day of practice. It's like, look, it's too late. It's too hot to be out here fighting. But you always had – that was like the beginning of the training camp. Once full pass went on, you knew it was going to be some type of squabble, probably like inside run and some shit like that.

But it was a good time. Good time. Nothing too crazy. I feel like the sort of stereotype is that coaches encourage it. But I feel like – I don't know. Did your coaches hate it or just kind of like, ah, whatever. I wouldn't say they encouraged it or hate it. It was just a part, a part of it.

You didn't want anybody swinging a helmet or throwing a punch at anybody, but you know, a little, I think coaches, you know, especially like a young guy who you might not know how tough he is. Once you see a guy who you, you know, you may have some questions about, he gets into a little bit, you know kind of like okay okay i like to see a young fella so uh but i don't think it's encouraged you don't want you know you want your guys out and as a pros you're taught early you know you take care of each other out in practice so um that goes and tackling and keeping guys up that's something that's driven home you know dude's making a lot of money you're

not trying to get hurt in the fourth day of training camp because you're fighting a guy. So I wouldn't say I was encouraged, but definitely not fully discouraged either. AJ, didn't, like, Frank Zombo beat the shit out of you at practice one day? I don't remember. Wasn't that? Frank Zombo. Frank, hey, I'm glad he brought his name up.

He's a great player. I never fought Frank Zombo, luckily. He was cock strong. That dude, you don't want to fight Frank. But, yeah, anytime, like D-Butt said, you're in the middle of training camp. It's hot. You can feel when the fights are about to happen. The hard thing is if you get into, like, a big brawl, offense, defense,

whatever you're in there, and then you've got to line up and you have, like, six plays in a row right after that, and everyone's dead tired. And then it's like, then you get in another fight because you're that tired. Everyone's so tired you're trying to fight. And, yeah, it's a mess. That's when coaches don't like it because that, then you get in another fight because you're that tired. Everyone's so tired. You're trying to fight. And yeah, it's just, it's a mess. That's when coaches don't like it. Cause that's when people get hurt.

What did big Mike have to say about it? Big Mike. Was that Frank Zombo? Yeah. Nice. Zorro. Zorro Zombo. Got a sack in the Superbowl his rookie year.

That's right. Zorro Zombo. Legend. Legend. Absolutely. Zombo. Dbutt, you are also, besides being a noted F1 expert. Huge F1 guy.

Huge hockey guy, too. Huge hockey guy. Yeah. Oh, yeah. What is going on in your hockey world right now? I mean, we are buzzing. We're buzzing. It's buzzing down here in South Florida.

I've never heard this many people talk about the Florida Panthers. Go Cats. Our heat. Our heat is killing heat. Go Cats. Time to hunt. We got overtime victories. We had the huge overtime victory against Boston.

Just had another one to go up 3-0 against the Leafs. It's just a bunch of scrappy dogs. Leafs. Maple Leafs. Whatever. Toronto. Everybody hates them. That team up there. No, no. Let them go. Leafs. Leafs. Maple Leafs. Whatever. Toronto. You know what we're talking about. Everybody hates them. That team up there.

3-0. All right. 3-0. Nobody saw this coming. I think we are. Might be a second. What are we? Plus 350 right now to win it all after the Oilers?

Yep. People really talk about it in Miami or South. Where is it? It's in Miami. Yeah. Plus 350. I mean, yeah. You got a lot of fair weather fans down here.

No. No, you don't. You're doing good. But the Panthers, honestly, they've had a solid fan base. My sister, Connor, actually years ago used to dance for the Florida Panthers. So I used to go to a couple games a year. Yeah, years ago. So he's been a big friend.

They have a dance team. They got entertainment down there. Trap sheet. Come on now. Not on the ice though, right? Because I feel like that would be a problem. Yeah, they lay some shit out there for them too. You don't watch hockey?

You guys don't watch hockey? Do you know my hockey experience is this? Like the group chat of my high school buddies, they will be like, hey, playoff overtime. And I'm like, oh, cool. And I'll turn it on. Okay. Because like it is, you know, I'm not a hockey. I. And I'll turn it on. Because I'm not

a hockey fan. I'll go when it's in person. Hockey fan or not, the playoffs, the NHL playoffs, electric. And I found it, honestly, a lot of times looking for basketball, oh, shit, you go to TNT and then you say, oh, shit. It's hard as hell to keep up

with the puck, honestly. But once you kind of get a beat on that, it's pretty dope. I like it. the puck, honestly. But once you kind of get a beat on that, it's pretty dope. I like it. Yeah, NHL playoffs are, I think, one of the better postseasons in all of sports, really. It's like NFL and I don't throw NBA in there just because the finals and the conference finals are so good. But the NHL playoffs from round one to the Stanley Cup finals are unbelievable every single year.

It does. Like, I remember when, like, of all the things that I remember when I, like, we were talking before you came on here about how little I'm in locker rooms now, for better or worse. One of the things I remember was my first year covering the Patriots, all the veterans were like, it's a different speed in the playoffs. And I'm like, okay, like, sure it is. I figured that was, like, coach's a different speed in the playoffs. And I'm like, okay, sure it is. I figured that was like coach speak, but it actually really is.

And hockey is like that times 10. I don't know if basketball seems the same. Basketball is definitely like that. This year has been a pretty good NBA playoffs as well. You got the physical, so I think the hockey. I like the hockey. Obviously, football is the pinnacle, in my opinion. One and done.

No series, just three hours, best team walks off. NBA feels like the stars kind of. I don't know if it's everybody, but it feels like in the NBA, the stars of each team, aside from Boston, kind of take it to the next level and start scoring 35, 40 points. Like last night, I think Devin Booker had 40 and Jokic had 50. James Harden had 40. Like it's absurd to see what happens to those guys.

And then the role players, the difference of how they play at home in a way is nuts. Like it's insane. But, yeah, like to your point, Stars, for sure. What the fuck happened to Jason Tatum yesterday? And he only scored two points in the first half and made me miss a fucking Super Boots by one point. Come on, dude. What's up with your stars?

The two points is ridiculous. I'm more upset that Jason Tatum's passing the ball at the end of games instead of just taking the shot. That's the controversy today, right? Yeah, because this isn't exactly what it is, but he loves Kobe Bryant. A lot of his moves, actually, Pat sent me a video of a side by side of Tatum and Kobe, and

it's the exact same move, exact same bucket. It's cool. And then he's passing the ball at the end of games, and Kobe Bryant would never, ever do that in a billion years..4 seconds would look like. Yeah, I don't know. He did it in game one, too. Yep. When he passed it up at the end of the end of the game did in game one and then did it twice at the end of regulation and at the end of overtime uh it's absolutely ridiculous but they're not playing

tonight d but the miami heat are playing tonight are you pretty confident in the fact that this could be what the greatest eight seed in the history of the nba playoffs with your miami heat yeah it's crazy yeah why jimmy, like, you talk about the playoffs, like he is the epitome of, like, turning that shit up or not. What Hemi, a.k.a. Hemi Butler does in the playoffs is unbelievable. So I think we go up 3-1. And growing up being a Heat fan, the Knicks was one of those teams we especially hated more, especially down here in South Florida.

We've always had a lot of New Yorkers come down here. Oh, I'm a Knicks fan. I'm a Rangers fan. I'm going to ask them that. So to beat the Knicks is always a little extra special. So I think we go up 3-1 tonight. I honestly think that series, no, I think it goes six. I think the Knicks will get one more.

They got a good squad. Jalen Brunson's a dog. Randall's back. He's healthy. Barrett's pretty good. But I think we win that series probably in six. And where is that tonight? That one's in Miami.

In Miami. Yep, in Miami. Lakers-Warriors tonight, too. That'll be a good one. That'll be a good one. Back-to-back blowouts. Choms just teased something earlier on the show. Yeah, that's good.

What did he tease? I missed it. What did he say? He said that, you know, they'll make their adjustments. He didn't say specifically what it would be. He basically was like, well, you know, they'll make their adjustments. He didn't say specifically what it would be. He basically was like, well, you know, Kerr is the best at this. Like, whatever he needs to do, whether it's lineup changes or something else. And then we were like, oh?

And he's, oh, no, no, I'm not saying anything. But, like, as someone who sometimes speaks this language. Sure. I feel like Shams. Oh, you picked it up. It was like the radar. Sure. The insider radar, the, you know, whatever.

Okay. I picked it up. It seems like there'll be something, you know, Shams is on his own up to something season going on as it relates to the world. Oh, okay. Well, it's going to be, hey, they made a big move and they put Jermichael Green in the lineup after taking, you know, Looney who was grabbing 20 rebounds a game.

But it's all about AD. If AD plays like AD, I don't think you can beat that Lakers team. If he plays like – you know, because there's a lot of peaks and valleys with him just like Tatum. But if he can consistently be him and be the best player on the floor, they're a tough, tough team to beat, especially at home. But, you know, Steph Curry's on the floor as well. Klay Thompson can get hot. So hopefully that game, that series goes

seven. I'm taking my Warriors in seven in that one. It's hard to stay up in those late 10 o'clock games, though. Oh my God, it's impossible. Brutal. Zero chance. I'll wake up. No way. Why does basketball do that? Why do they hate me?

West Coast. You see the games are in L.A. Yes, I know, but just have those start earlier. Oh, so you want people to leave work and go to a game at 3 o'clock in L.A.? Nobody's going to a job anymore. Half the world works from home now. No one's going to the office. Well, you might be right.

This is the first year that they are actually doing the finals game starting at 8.30 because a lot of the times, both because of... As opposed to what? The West Coast ones start at 9. That's absurd. Yeah, it is very difficult. Why do they hate kids? I don't know. Why don't you ask Adam Silver? You probably have his number.

I think he grew up right near where I live, as a matter of fact. Oh, man. You guys should take a picture standing side by side. You could go up to his kneecaps. He's a big son of a bitch. Is he really?

I get a lot of short comments on Instagram. A lot of short comments. He's like 6'9". Is he really? Weirdly very tall. No. Adam Silver? Yeah, during the NBA draft.

Did he play? You can probably find a photo of it. Yeah, he definitely played. He has a wet jumper. He went to Kansas. I think he's like third all-time points scorer. Who was that with Naismith? That's my bad, Adam.

Sorry, Adam. During the draft when players come on stage and he shakes their hands, he is not getting – I mean, it's kind of similar to Goodell. Goodell's a big son of a bitch too. He's listed at 6'4". Silver? Yeah. That's crazy.

Yeah, if he's on his knees. Yeah. Could you imagine what he is in his dress shoes? Oh, my God. Seven feet. Easily. God. It is funny, though.

You guys were talking about the stars kind of coming to play in the playoffs. It really does seem like that's sort of what you hope for in the NFL. You know, it's like you want, you know, like the fact that we never saw the Jalen Hurts last drive in the Super Bowl. Yeah. It ended how it ended, and it was awesome. But a small part of me was like, let's watch Jalen Hurts do this. And basketball takes that to the 10th degree

because you have to have your best player take almost all the shots because otherwise, what kind of coach are you? You put the ball in your best player's hands, and that's it. They do that. So you're right. It's like the kind of coach are you? You put the ball in your best player's hands and that's it. You're right. The stars touch the ball every freaking time. That's why they changed the overtime rules because everyone was bitching during that Chiefs-Bills game that

Josh Allen never had the opportunity to get the ball back. Defense stinks. That was defense too. That was terrible. 13 seconds. Huge, that was defense stink, too. You heard me, D-Bud. That was terrible. 13 seconds. Huge, huge metdown. Can't have it.

Brutal. All right, D-Bud. We have taken up enough of your time. Not that you have anything else. I appreciate you guys. This was fun, as always. See you guys later. Was it extra fun because I was here or less fun?

Less fun, honestly. Yeah, that makes sense. Thanks, D-Bud. No, I'm joking with you. Keep killing it, Rashi. Thank you, D-Bud. Yeah, D-Bud you. Keep killing it, Rashi. Thank you, D-Bot. Yeah, D-Bot! He was not joking, by the way.

He's the best, to be honest. Him just reinventing himself as an F1 fan and a hockey fan. Honestly, very knowledgeable about it. If you could go down, like following his Twitter, the access he did get, yeah, I would do that. Are you kidding me? It's one thing to go fucking sit in the sun and watch the cars just speed around, but if you're going in and being able to go into the garages

and bump shoulders with TC. Yeah, count me in. Yeah. I'm thinking I would. Yeah, there's no price on being able to bump shoulders. Hold on. Hold on. TC.

So Tom Cruise was really there? Yes. And he's not shooting a movie? He's just hanging out there? No, he's just hanging out. He's changing tires. He's working in the garage. He's a gearhead, right?

He's a gearhead. Who knows? A new fling might have fucking been sprung down at that moment. They did see him and Shakira hanging out. Boom. Boom. Oh, you thought we were kidding. No, Tom Cruise is changing tires.

Wait, what is he? We got Jordan Risp. What's he doing? Oh, my God. Those are Puma. Everyone has. Oh, my bad. And he's saying, oh, it's that easy?

I could do this shit. I gotta start watching this. He's such a dog. Do you think that all the other actual tire changers are like, this is my job. This guy thinks it's a joke. No, it's Tom Cruise. Not at all. He can do whatever he wants. You think it's cool?

Because they're watching video of him saying, see you at the movies, and then fucking nose dying in his airplane towards the earth. Yeah. Oh, okay. This guy can do whatever the hell he wants. Those dudes aren't saying, what the hell is Tom Cruise doing here? They're saying, fuck, Tom Cruise might take my job from me. I might get fired today because he's going to do this better than I ever have.

Also, all these guys aren't from the U.S. They might be like, what the fuck is Pete Mitchell doing here? Yeah, true. Why is Ethan Hunt here? Come on, man. What the hell? It's possible. What is your problem, Ian?

You look like Tom Cruise. I like Tom Cruise. What's your problem with T.C.? You don't like T.C.? No, I do. Risky Business was great. All the right movies. Have you seen that one?

Sure. Anything past 1984 What about Jerry Maguire That one I've seen Born on the 4th of July Uh oh What's this Who is that

Shakira Shakira I've never heard from Super Bowl She performed it, it was awesome She did that tongue thing Is that what that was Tequila! I remember I heard from Super Bowl half-time. Yeah, she performed it. It was awesome. Crushed it. So Artishi and Shakira. She did that tongue thing. What?

Is that what that was? Artishi and Shakira. I mean, if T.C. wants, yeah. Okay. Yeah, that's kind of the way it works. I feel bad if Shakira has a husband. She's actually going through a messy divorce right now. Yeah, Gerard Piquet.

Did we just talk about why? No, no, no. He plays for Barcelona. Was there a funny story about Shakira? No, he cheated on her like an idiot. Yeah, Gerard Piquet is an absolute dirtbag, allegedly. Someone ate her blueberry custard out of the fridge, and she knew that Piquet did not like blueberry custard,

so she knew that somebody else was there. That's how he got caught. I believe it was blueberry custard. I don't think it was blueberry custard. But it was something along those lines. I can't tell if you're joking. Something was in the fridge. Yeah, and he didn't like it.

Something was eaten out of the fridge that he was allergic to. She was like, oh, chiquita, chiquita. Some floozy was over here eating my purple fudge. Bingo. That's exactly what it was. If you came home and your grilled chicken and rice was gone, you'd be like, who the fuck did this? You're right.

I'm going to have to check. I'm going to go check the fridge when I get done here. Luckily, I have 75 more chicken and rices in the back. I just looked it up. It was a jar of jam. It wasn't blueberry custard. It was a jar? What do you mean?

What? Of jam. And Shakira said this. She said this is why we broke up. Her strawberry jam was eaten in the fridge. That is absolutely wild. He can't have strawberry jam. He's not the jam guy.

It's wild to think that someone would... Watch this show? Yeah. No, yeah. Did Tom ask her about that? Did Tom say, hey, I heard about the job. I'm sorry to hear about it. You want to rest your head on my shoulder and we can talk about it?

I think he actually gifted her a jar of strawberry jam. God, whose report was that? Who had the source that was like, it was the jam? It was the jam. Bree Stimson. Best in the game. Oh, Tony, this is from your website. Which one's that?

Fox News. I cannot believe that. Not only would someone cheat on Shakira, but then be stupid enough to eat the jam out of the fridge? It's jam. Jam? Eat the jam out of the fridge? The person that ate the jam was the person that he was fornicating with, allegedly. Not him, right?

That's how she knew. Bingo. He couldn't eat the jam because he's allergic. He didn't say he was probably sleeping after he had a nice session. He was like, hey, don't touch the jam. She'll know. Yeah, exactly. And then he calls the alleged mistress or whatever and was like, why would you eat the jam?

Why would you eat the jam? You knew that she doesn't do it. Like, why? All the children don't like the jam either. She ate the entire eat the jam? You knew that she doesn't do it. Why? All the children don't like the jam either. She ate the entire jar of jam. Empty jar? I can understand. It couldn't have been empty because you'd throw it out.

I assume you'd recycle. It doesn't say he's allergic, but it says he doesn't like it. She was probably putting the jam on his hog. Oh. She, okay. this is a real story though yeah the job part just the job we don't know the job on the dong that's alleged maybe who knows but the job is a real thing this is why they broke up with yeah the job was the reason that

she found out i cannot believe this is real life smart gal she probably put the job in there as like a control like hey if this if anything as a control. I know he's out messing around on you. God, that is an incredible detective. It's probably the best job ever, too. What's that? It's probably the best job ever. I mean, eat the whole thing. No preservatives.

There's no preservatives in Europe. She wouldn't have any crap job in there. Great point. PK didn't eat the job because he needs to be properly jocked for a footballer. Can you imagine the people who are like, I wonder what's going on at the McAfee show today? No, they turned it off a long time ago. There's probably 10 people watching right now. You think?

11? Maybe 11. Maybe. I mean, after that job conversation? I don't know. 40,000. The job, this got me interested. I knew, after that Jom conversation? No. 40,000. Jom, this got me interested. I knew nothing of the Jom.

I'm going to go down a rabbit hole as soon as we get done here to be like, who's this guy? Gerard Piquet? Yeah. He's a stud center back for Barcelona. Also, if he plays for country, it's Spain. Heard of them? He's a Spaniard. Thank you.

I follow Dortmund. That's my only soccer team and anything else I know very little. Although I know Messi's involved in some sort of major dispute. Yeah, Messi was down in Saudi and the Messi owners don't like that very much. I could see that. First Mickelson and then Messi. Yeah.

Exactly. Some people are saying hey hold on, Inter Milan might, you know, or Inter-Miami might give him ownership of the team. Oh my God. Who's that guy? That's Gerard Piquet. That's when he got the call about the job. What if he all of a sudden

liked his job, though? We know he's not allergic. What if he said, hey, I just like jobs. When they got married in their vows, Piquet said to Shakira, I will never eat your job. Ied to never eat your dom. Okay, I'm settled then. I think we have to come back tomorrow and talk more about this.

Yeah, you just said a rabbit hole. I got four or five other ones that I can send you to go down, so don't you even worry. Oh my god. Do they involve soccer cheating scandals? No, no, no. This is the only one in soccer right now as far as rabbit holes go. Okay. Yeah, send them all your websites,

Con Man. Oh, God. God help me. Don't check my search history. I'm not sending porn websites. Is that what you want? No, I don't want porn. Okay. And why did you say don't check your website? I'm just saying, I don't want any weird stuff. Not all weird stuff is porn.

Let's try this again. He loaded up his carry-on with magazines. He doesn't need four. That's right. I forgot he told us that. Sir, is this yours? God help the TSA agent who goes through and is like, what are magazines? Oh, I remember these.

These are what? Why are all the pages sticky? Oh, no, no, no. They pulled your bag to the side because one of the TSAs. What do you mean, Zeke? Probably be sticky. Sometimes they get a little sticky. Sometimes there's too much job.

It just gets jobbed up. Human job. Oh, I get it. You guys are semen. That's right. No, I've been on a ship in a long time, to be honest with you. All right. I think we're done here.

All right. I think we're good. This is exactly what happens at NFL Network, right, Ian? This is exactly what happens. Before I go back to NFL Network, we're going to do this again tomorrow. Oh, yeah. We're going to do this again tomorrow? Yeah.

Assuming I didn't get the show canceled. There's a chance. All right. We'll see. Thank you, everyone, the show canceled. There's a chance. Alright, we'll see. Thank you everyone for joining us. You guys are awesome. Thank you for having me as usual. Thank you for D-Button Shams and the legend Pat McAfee.

Big guest tomorrow too. Big guest tomorrow? It was great to see the baby. Love seeing baby. Maybe tomorrow we'll get out to the 5-Hour Energy phone line too, Ian. Oh, yeah, yeah. I got the phone line number. I'll use it.

We'll see if people can bring it and ask questions and maybe not have me get angry at them. There we go. It'd be nice if you – I'd like to see you get angry at someone and yell at them. That'd be kind of cool. You don't have to, though. You don't have to.

Oh, I don't get angry on the golf course. Yourself or other people? Myself. Going to catch nine today? I'm going to try to make some phone calls today. Can you call Belichick for me? You told me there's no news from now until the end of the year. It's probably going to be.

Do you want to do it FaceTime? Yeah, let's just FaceTime. Does he think he's a FaceTime guy? Bill Belichick? I assume he doesn't even have a cell phone. Oh, actually, never mind. He texted Brian Flores that one thing that one time. Yeah, that's right.

Yeah, I forgot about that. All right. Goodbye. Thank you, everyone. That's it. We'll see you tomorrow. Go away.