The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 901 - Mike Rupp, Jack Carr, Pacman Jones & AJ Hawk LIVE In The ThunderDome

Episode Date: May 10, 2023

On today’s show, AJ Hawk, Pacman Jones, and the boys fill in for Pat while he is on paternity. They chat about the Celtics being on the verge of elimination, Jokic having another dominating night on the hardwood in the NBA Playoffs, all the different action on the ice with the NHL Playoffs, and discuss some of the marquee games already released for next year’s NFL season. Joining the progrum to chat about last night’s games and tonight’s tilts, and ultimately who he thinks is going to hoist Lord Stanley’s Cup is Stanley Cup Champion, NHL Network Analyst, and co-host of That’s Hockey Talk, Mike “Rupper” Rupp (1:11:26-1:36:27). Later, New York Times Bestseller, former Navy Seal sniper, and creator of the Terminal List, Jack Carr joins the show to chat about his new book in the James Reece saga, “In The Blood,” discuss his thoughts on where warfare is going in the future with the advancements in technology and AI, his work on the Terminal List series, his writing process, and much more (1:48:51-2:13:15). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello and welcome. I am not Ian Rappaport. My name is AJ Hawk. I'm sitting in here today for the Pat McAfee on the Pat McAfee show. While he has this nice little baby at home with his wife Sam. Mr. Ohio! Okay, there we go boys. We hit it. Here we go. Wednesday, May 10th. I am AJ Hawk. For anyone tuning in right now that is looking for Pat McAfee, he's still at home with his beautiful baby, Mackenzie, which is a public thing now, right? Yes, it's a public thing. It right? We can say that, Pat? It's a public thing. Mr. Pac-Man Jones, my old teammate, one of my favorite teammates ever right here. Sitting next to you. Appreciate you, Pat. We see

Tone Diggs. Did Ian remember your name yesterday or not? What do you think? He has no idea who I am. You don't have a name tag, though. He looked, he pointed in your direction, and you said, you don't know where I'm at. I'm pretty sure Zito told him the first time, and Zito's laughing right now, so I know. Oh, in his ears he did that?

And then any time that he would send it to me for a question, maybe after that it was him, but it took him a few seconds. That's fine. I mean, he's got a lot of names in his head. He's big time. That's right. He is big time. I appreciate Ian coming in here. It was great.

He was awesome. Ian doesn't take himself too serious, which I think is awesome. Yeah, I agree. In fact, have you had any interaction with Ian or much over the years until these last few days? Well, yeah, not like yesterday. Yesterday I had a chance to be around him for three hours. He was a very interesting person, and we had a good show, man.

Yeah, it's probably not. If you think about it from an outsider, it's probably not super easy to be somebody that lives in that corporate world in the NFL world to come in here and sit here with you guys. The toxic table staring directly at him in two days straight and handles it very well. He gets it. I thought he handled it great.

Maybe one time when Grand Hill was introduced that he might have not picked up the ball perfectly, but I think... What'd he do? What'd he do? Grand Hill introduced him. Well, we can run it back. I'll watch it. During his interview uh when he brought him on there was really no like you know pause for like applause greet the guests kind of so it was very awkward we were kind of just sitting here like did you have that was on me that was definitely on me i

don't want to put you on the spot were they trying to you guys trying to re-watch that or something cohen oh yeah i clicked it i watched it a couple times yesterday but uh again rap sheet crushed it he did a fantastic job uh i know you actually are pretty pissed because he wouldn't throw to you during palisaro so i know you're probably a little upset about i felt for him for a second because i'm sitting there so palisaro was on for what 40 minutes yeah i don't know if i spoke or not during that you did and that's not ian's fault and i'm not gonna butt in but like he has all of you to think about okay who can who do I go to next? Boom, boom, boom.

And then he sees me probably last on the screen. I didn't expect him to throw to me, but I also thought, it's going to be kind of weird for him if he's trying to figure out how to get me. He's going to text me. What does he do? Because me and Pat obviously kind of look at each other and shake our heads and point and all that. Unless you shake someone off because you don't want to talk to them.

Yeah, depending on what's worth it. I've only shaken a few off when that was due to time constraints. We had to get out of here. At the front of my brain, but we got another show to worry about. We know what we get to worry about. We're about 24 hours away from the official

schedule release for the NFL. Greatest day of the year, right fellas? Come on now, the NFL team's Super Bowl. NFL tribe. We've already had multiple games leak, a lot of international games, right? The Jags are playing two weeks in a row in London? Correct. Because they're ahead of us. They leaked them because they're ahead of us because it's the time zone difference.

That's why they leaked the international games. Are you serious? Yeah, that's the point. I think the whole schedule is actually already out. Oh, I can't wait until it travels over here in, what, 10, 12 hours? Yeah, just like New Year's for Australia. We can't look it up right now? No. Mama Kelsey probably already got it. Unless you have a VPN

that can VPN into European internet. You gotta follow Mama Kelsey on Facebook. Get your Facebook account going. I don't have a Facebook account. You don't? Yeah, I don't either. Why not? Come on, guys. Facebook is my era. I'm 39 years old, Pat. Aren't you a Facebook era kid? I got a Facebook. I guess I do have a Facebook. I don't know if I can get

into it, is the question. I don't know the password. How do you find that? Who do I talk to? Zuck. I'm not picking on Zuck. That dude just won a silver and gold medal in one jiu-jitsu match. That's what you do. You let Zuck submit you via armbar and then he will find your password.

He whispers your password in your ear while he's submitting you. Which one of these games that have leaked do you think is Zuck's favorite one where he looks at and he circles and he's like, oh, is it Germany? Oh, I don't know. Chiefs, Dolphins. Jets. Who do we have on Christmas Day? Christmas Day.

Eagles, Giants. Christmas Day we have Giants at the Eagles. I like that game. Obviously, Black Friday. Dolphins at Jets, 3 p.m. That's Amazon's first Black Friday game? That's right. First ever.

I mean, that's going to be absolute fireworks. Hopefully everybody's healthy and everyone's playing well. Do you think they're going to have QR codes pop up on the screen to buy LifeStraws and stuff like that during the game? Yes, they should. LifeStraws, because the Jets quarterback is a survivalist. Is he a survivalist? No, not a survivalist.

I guess somebody... Herbal medicine? I don't know how he feels about the LifeStraw because he's not a prepper, but I guess maybe I lumped him into it. I shouldn't have done that. I shouldn't have lumped those all at the same time. That's a spell right there. Is he in a panic room or a kill shelter?

What's a kill shelter? It's like a butcher shop. Can you clip his hot voice? He didn't know what he was doing. I don't know. Or a fallout shelter is what I really meant. Kill shelters. Kills all his people, right?

No, no. I'm joking, Bill. We don't do that. We're past that. Does he have a fallout shelter? I don't know if he has a fallout shelter. I think he has plenty of properties he could find his way to if he needed to. Because I assume if you have an elevator that goes down to the beach,

that elevator then can also sink back into the mountain, into your fallout. I believe actually there is another one where the beach separates and it just keeps going into the earth underneath the ocean. And he's got a nice little bungalow down there that, you know, if things go south, that's where you go. We need to check this out. We need to visit his house. Like what?

I said it's probably all black. That's probably when he'd get away from everybody. That's why he did the darkness retreat to prepare himself. What's your favorite game on there, Ace? Woody was that. I mean, I'd have to say, sorry, Zeke's giving me some direction in my ear. I was moved. I got to move a little bit.

I'm out of the way. I guess I moved my stuff. I haven't been here in a while. When was the last time I hosted in person? Game day season? Yeah, probably. During the football season. Yeah, it feels good to be back.

I was driving here today. Almost fell asleep. No, I wasn't. I didn't almost fall asleep, but I have a hard time concentrating on driving when I'm driving. Sure. I feel like as I get older. How far are you at a drive? 240 it takes me about. 240? Yeah. At least

probably. What about you? Do you have to come through Cincinnati or not? No, I don't have to. It takes me about, on a good day, it takes me about an hour and 30. See, that's a lot. If Joe's driving, like 60 minutes. Yep. Oh, is Joe the one that, did I miss Joe?

You did miss Joe. If Joe fucking driving, it would probably take me two hours. Well, I don't know about that. Joe is not the fastest driver. Big Joe came to the office a couple times, was driving back, and then he drove back to Nick's wedding in Pittsburgh and showed up to the wedding in a sweet. Oh, had his sweet tux on, right?

Sweat tux. No? Yeah, sweat tux, Nike sweatpants, and just a run-of-the-mill Nike sweatshirt. Was the dress code on the invitation? Yeah, I believe it did say black tie. It was black tie. I mean, that's up to the bank. It's all subjective on what I feel is black tie, right?

Yeah, and Tech Joe's a billionaire, so he has one outfit, and it is sweats, and you can't do fucking anything about it. It doesn't matter who's getting married. I respect it. No, absolutely. Tech Joe's an absolute weapon, but back to the games. Yeah, what's your favorite game? No, you don't have to get it back on track.

I want to know. I'm not sure about my favorite game. I am very worried about the Bengals Chiefs New Year's Eve because isn't that college football playoff territory? Are we not thinking about that? Are they moving the college football playoff? What day of the week is that? Is Sunday the 31st? I have no idea. If that's the Bengals Chiefs,

then I assume they will do the 30th that Saturday for the college football playoff. It actually might not because I'm pretty sure Christmas is on a Monday this year. It says Sunday, December 31st if I'm right. So that's not the only game on then.

The college football playoff has to move to Saturday. You'd assume. Or just, I mean, that would be their day. They wouldn't play on Sunday anyway. Sunday's football. They could also do like 1 and 8 p.m. or 1 and 7.30 and that would be the game in the middle so that you'd still be able to watch all three games. Will all games be

on Sunday still or will they move? I would think they would move the football games. I wouldn't want to compete. I don't know. College would move the football games you mean. Yeah. Instead of competing with a primetime game with two of the highest profile NFL players. Okay, so this year, actually, 2024, the college football playoff semifinals are going to take

place Monday, January 1st. Okay, here we go. There we go. Don't have to worry about it. So two games on Monday, like the game we did. Yeah. New Year's Day, back where it should be. Oh, okay.

That makes more sense. So they'll play that Monday, and then when will the finals be? The following Monday. Following Monday. Yeah. A week later. They'll kick off like 945 Eastern. Yeah. It's awesome. That makes more sense. So they'll play that Monday, and then when will the finals be the following Monday? They'll kick off like 9.45 Eastern. Yeah, it's awesome. It's always so good. Rains and doors, it's in LA. So sweet. But hey,

Conman, I don't know if you put this sheet together, or it's Zeke? It's a group project. Where is the deal about the Chiefs are playing the Dolphins in Germany, right? The report this week was that the Bears may not play the Chiefs in Germany because the Chiefs don't want to play the Bears. Where does that come right? The report this week was that the Bears may not play the Chiefs in Germany because the Chiefs don't want to play the Bears. Where is that coming from? What kind of rumors is that coming from? What corners

of the internet? Yeah, this was a thing all week. This wasn't just like a run-of-the-mill thing today. Yeah, it's from Peter King's football morning in America. Bingo. And he was kind of alleging, but that the Bears weren't going to play in Germany. This is what the tweet says.

Bears playing in Germany this upcoming season against the Kansas City Chiefs won't happen because KC has requested to the NFL that they don't want to play the Bears overseas. And people are assuming that it's because Bears travel really well so Kansas City wants them beer sales, ticket sales, all those things

to actually come to them as a real home game. And I'm not really sure. Come on, it's not that. What is it, Pat? Come on, Pat. Andy Reid do not want to go all the way to fucking Germany and play with his fucking second squad against a subpar-ass fucking bear team. Oh.

That's a long-ass trip. Wouldn't that be a good resting time, though? Rest all your good guys? Oh, my God, man. I know. The Chiefs can beat them right here. They don't have to go all the way to fucking Germany to beat the Bears. See, I thought the Chiefs are already losing a home game, not at Arrowhead.

I think that's how it works. You have to – one of the teams gets designated to be the home team. Which the Chiefs are here, which I thought Arrowhead was going to be sold out no matter who they were playing. But I thought that they were a little worried that maybe Bears fans would travel really well. And maybe there would be more Bears fans in Germany than there would be Chiefs fans. You think the Kansas City Chiefs are sitting there worried about that? I don't think they give a shit at all about local people traveling. We saw last year how high the demand was for people in Germany

and Europe to go to these games. The stadiums are going to be mostly comprised of people. It's like how many people – They want to see the spectacle of what it is. Hey, NFL football. I just want to be there and see it and take it in. We would probably want to go see Lionel Messi if he came over here from Barcelona. Well said.

As a player, AJ, tell them how miserable this fucking trip is. See, Pac, this is the thing. I think the Packers went overseas a year or two after I left, and the Bengals went the year after I left. No, last year was the first time they ever did it. The Bengals, I think, went the year after I left. I heard that was not – you guys left on what, a Thursday? Yeah.

For a Sunday game. So can you tell us how that schedule was? Like from when you took off in Cincy until you landed, until you played, what'd you do? We left from Cincy, went to Chicago, got on a bigger plane, left from Chicago. Were there a bunch of lay-down seats? What was better?

Only the starters had lay-down seats. That's a big deal. I thought they just got 50. It was a big-ass plane, but a lot of guys didn't have the sleepers. So you get over there, shit, it's early in the morning, so the time difference is a big difference. Did you go practice right away?

You go straight to the stadium. Okay. Yeah, it was like 6.37 we got there. Went straight to some little soccer field that wasn't the main place. Had a little practice in front of all these people. The food was horrible. Whoa. For the Bengals.

You don't like fish and chips? No. They entered the food. Even when we got time to go around, the food was not the same. I'm just saying, as some athletes are getting ready for a prime game, that this game might count if a motherfucker is going to the playoff or not. Sure. That matters.

Yeah, but everything coming out about the Bengals, you guys are probably eating fish and poop, not fish and chips. I doubt that Mr. Brown was betting over backwards for food over in London. Then you get there, you have a practice. The next day is media thing. Then you play. Then you're right back on the plane to get back over here. Did you lose like eight hours coming back?

Yeah. Where'd you play? London? We played in London. Was that Wembley? Yeah, Wembley. Was it cool? eight hours coming back? Yeah. Where'd you play? London? We played in London. Was that Wembley? Yeah, Wembley. Was it cool? Was the venue cool?

The venue was crazy. Okay. I mean, they sung whatever song they sung. God Save the Queen. The whole game. Can you? Well, it's the King. No one can do it.

I actually don't know that. It's the King now. God Save the King. That just happened to Coronation Saturday, right? Yeah. You guys watch? You watch a little bit. I was at a derby, so honestly, I forgot about it.

I would have never watched that. I watched a little bit of it. Come on now. I remember we watched when the one people got married, though. Yeah, the royal wedding. Yeah, the royal wedding. In like the middle of the night. Everyone watched that.

Wake up at 5 a.m. and watch. Yeah, me and my buddy drank like three bottles of whatever, Crown or vodka, whatever it was at the time, and watched, stayed up until 5 and watched it. Nice. I can't do this. You stayed up until 5? I'm old now. Yeah, we stayed up and watched it.

Oh, I figured you would just wake up. You wake up at 5 every morning. Why don't you just go to bed and wake up? I'm old now. Yeah, we stayed up and watched it. I figured you'd just wake up. You wake up at 5 every morning. Why don't you just go to bed and wake up? I was like 23. He's excited. Young fuck. I was like, oh my gosh, it's such a big deal. Look at the – no.

But, Pac, I'm sorry. We cut you off. You played the game, then you fly home. Then what's practice like? Fly right back. You get here like – what is that? Sunday going into Monday. Shit.

We back at the stadium. They pushed it back, so we was back at the stadium about 2 o'clock. So it wasn't a good trip for me as far as a player. I mean, now no one wants to play two games over there, but for the Jags, at least you're over there for two weeks. So maybe it is better than just going for three days. Yeah, do they go Monday too? Is there any thought?

There's no point to go Thursday to Sunday. Why wouldn't they just go Monday, get acclimated to the time, especially if they're playing the Falcons? Yeah. It's going to be each individual player will have their own opinion, but I don't know, man. I'm not good going anywhere past four or five days. If there's a vacation or something, give me four days is all I need,

even if I have to fly 15 hours like i don't care i just let me get back at some point i think being gone two weeks living out of your hotel room when you're preparing for two games that mean a lot yeah hotel rooms in london are small too well some teams do that now when they like if like the chargers or something that will have a game in atlanta and then next game they're playing the commander or something like that they'll stay on the east coast right yeah a lot of teams do it when i so i was on the falcons for four weeks uh the year they went to the super bowl i went there on a tuesday signed and they left on friday to go to denver and then they were staying out there because we were playing seattle next so i was like all right i was home not playing on playing football

and doing anything i was working out and stuff i was actually about to go work a game for fs1 and then all of a sudden i'm in atlanta i don't have anything with me and they're okay we're going on like a 10-day road trip after this but geez i've never done this so i i think i went to cole's and bought some clothes and a thing of luggage a couple things but then we stayed in the hotel for eight nine days it was yeah a lot pagers did that this year i mean When they had to play Arizona and then the Raiders next week, they just stayed out west and then they practiced at Arizona. It is good for your team.

It's like camp. In the moment, camp sucks and all that, but you do come up with lasting memories and lasting things. Your team does get closer because that's all you have. Is it nice you're going out? Is it more fun going out when you know, like, okay, it's not as if we have to play the Cardinals and then fly all the way home.

Like, we get to play the Cardinals, have a day off, and then travel to Vegas? Yeah, we took it off right away when we flew. Yeah, I've never had that. The NFL don't do that. Normally, after you play, you're out of there. They don't trust players to hang around at all, I don't think, which is probably smart.

You've got a lot of players on a football team. Well, like, Packer, you went over there, because it was kind of like last year when the practices in London, they seemed kind of Mickey Mouse, because it seemed like it was just, it was like a media spectacle. Well, that's because Russell Wilson was there. Well, that was a big part of it, for sure. Oh, wait, the high knees on the plane, right?

Bingo, yeah. That was just last year. Did you do that, Pack? You do a bunch of high knees up and down the line? No, I never did. I've never even worn my jersey. Have you worn your jersey before? What you mean like like not with short pads yeah i have not worn my jersey other than no i've never worn my jersey outside you wear it to axel's

last game yeah in the stands every game that either i'm like assistant coaching or i'm there to support one of my kids yeah oh yeah i wear full uniform i wear pants green bay too so it's real sticks out. People are like, man, this guy. He must love attention. I got yellow, gold pants, green jersey. Sometimes I bring my helmet. Water bottle in your hat.

Water bottle. Yeah. I make someone else spray water in my mouth. They don't love when you yell from the sideline like, fucking blitz, Axel. That's what they have a problem with. To my five-year-old in a flag football game. Yeah, exactly.

That doesn't happen. I heard. Now, this is – I saw it on the internet. Oh, no. Could be wrong. Since the Colts are playing the Patriots in Germany, and Andrew Luck has so much respect for the Ryan Fire, he's actually going to come back and play one game that game.

That's true. One game. I don't know if he could do that. Jim Irsay sees him back in that Colts uniform slinging that ball around. He's going to throw a billion dollars his way to try to get him to join the team again. I don't know, because the only way is like 160 now. He does look like that. Yeah, and plus, Andrew does want to play

in Germany. Patriots are 2-0 against Germans. Are they? Anybody who wants to go there. Do you think Bill does a whole history lesson of where they're going? Because Bill is big on all that. Do you think he does that with them? Yeah, he's going all the way back to 1917. He's going to give kind of the layout of how the Great War at the time started.

And then once the second one came out and they referred to World War I, he'll go back through World War I. Then he'll move to the 30s where it gets fishy, as you know. Blonde hair, blue eyes, you get it. And then World War II happened. He'll go through that entire thing. He might even stop in Vietnam or Kuwait in between. And then he'll get to

Angela Merkel and everything going on in Germany and kind of how they have built this spectacle in Frankfurt, I believe. Okay. Pac-Man, did you ever want to play for Bill Belichick? He's one of the things I wish I got to experience what it was like to play for the Patriots, especially in their prime with Tom there and what it was

like to be on a Belichick-led team? Bro, who wouldn't? Yeah, what is it? Who wouldn't? Is it just because it's like mysterious, like we don't really know? I don't know. I guess if you come from that winning pedigree or like winning or have anything with winning, with everything that he's done,

that's a guy you'd be like, damn, I wish I could have played up on him. Yeah, because guys that do, they're like, no, man. Most people, yeah, they're like, no, he's a lot different than you think. Bill's actually funny. And if you're a pro and you do things right, he's great. He's awesome. The last thing, it is kind of 50-50. I feel like we don't know, obviously, exactly what goes on in there.

But since the Brady-Belichick split, there was that guy, Cassius Marsh, who came out and he explained how they do the history lessons. And some people just don't want to fucking hear that. And that's not a knock on them, but you have to be a certain type of player, obviously. And there are guys like Judon, Matthew Judon. He absolutely loves it. And he has helped kind of bring guys in and wants to explain that to people.

You've got to win, though. For them to continue to love it, you have to win. You have to win. However they ran that team, when you're winning, you can get away with whatever you want as a coach and staff, everything. But the second you stop winning, you know that issues will happen. Guys will start asking questions. Guys will start not being as willing to do the little things that other players may think are stupid. Do you think it'd be easier to play for him as a younger guy or as an older guy?

Oh, it depends. If you're an older guy with a play for him as a younger guy or as an older guy? Ooh. It depends. If you're an older guy with a bunch and you're a great player. Stuck in your ways, yeah. I guess he doesn't care. Yeah, if you're an older guy, man. I ain't going to burn you if you don't fit the model. Yeah, and I think the younger guys have to be easier because, like,

they don't know any other way. You guys mentioned, too, yeah, and, like, the allure of Bill Belichick. Like, it probably means more to them. Well, it has that for older You guys mentioned, too, yeah, and the allure of Bill Belichick. It probably means more to them. It has that for older guys, even, too. As a younger guy, I would say, yeah, because this is what you do. You don't know any different. You don't even know to think there's other ways going about it. Oh, man, practice is pretty tough now.

They're really riding me, but this is what we do. It seems like every player who leaves there or has stayed there forever or a player who leaves there gets a contract somewhere else. They all enjoyed playing for Bill, at least they say so publicly. The only person who had success there and says they didn't like it seems to be Asante Samuel. He seems to be the only guy

who hates him. He dropped an interception against the Giants to ruin the perfect season, so I think he's still pissed. He's pissed or you are? He probably is. I think he's still pissed. He's pissed or you are? He probably is. I think he is probably a hell of a player, though, man. Sante was a hell of a player. He had a lot of interceptions, too.

A lot of them. I think he's probably on the list of probably the most doing our error. You know what I mean? Yeah, man, like always. He crushed it. I think he's like the one vocal anti. Is he anti-Bill in my Patriots way? Oh, yeah, he anti-Bill.

I've seen him going back and forth with a couple people online but yeah he's very anti bill but i think that is almost jaded because there are a bunch of pricks similar to me who probably have tweeted at him like you son of a bitch you ruined the any time that that clip gets thrown out of the david tyree catch he will get tagged underneath it like remember when you could have had this game won for us, pal? So I can kind of understand why he might hate Bill Belichick and just New England in general. But, no, it does seem as though because of Bill,

and you guys mentioned the winning, like he has the winning pedigree, but it's like that anywhere. Like for the coach, one thing, but we saw it with the Bills this year. Like the Bills won all these games, and then against the Bengals when things were going wrong, that sideline was kind of up in arms. They had to stop Stephon Diggs from just kind of walking out, and that really is anywhere. If you have those expectations, and New England has had them for so long,

and now these teams, Bills, the Packers have had them for so long, the Chiefs, the Bengals have them now. If you don't make it to the Super Bowl, and if you don't at least make it to the playoffs, then the whole season's a failure. It doesn't really matter. Tom Brady ruined that for everybody. Tom Brady and the Patriots, they ruined everybody's expectations. I say a lot, it's about managing expectations

when you're thinking about who your favorite team is or whatever. Now we judge everybody off of Tom Brady and his seven Super Bowl rings. Bill Belichick has what, nine total? He has, I think, seven or eight. I don't think he's got nine. But the problem with the Giants business coordinator? Giants with Parcells.

The problem also is that we're not really talking about Mahomes running now. He's never not been to an AFC championship. Every single year he's been to the title game of the Super Bowl. So now, yeah, if he doesn't go, what's wrong with Mahomes? He's falling off the cliff. He's not the top dude anymore. And he's what, like 27, 28? Yeah, 27, I think.

Did you see that guy's weekend? He was Met Gala, Derby, F1, down with D-Butt. How did he have the time? Was he in the big cat suit at the Met Gala? I'm not sure if that was him. I think that was Jared Leto. Yes. Oh, okay.

There's a couple cat suits. Doja Cat was in full cat character. Well, she is a cat. That's her name. Yeah, that was the theme of the— Is that on her birth certificate? Yes. Doja Cat. Yeah. cat character. Well, she is a cat. That's her name. Yeah. That was the theme of the... Is that on her birth certificate? Yeah. Doja Cat.

Yeah. No middle name? No. Susie, I believe. Susie? No, it's Barb. Okay. Did you see Patrick at the Derby on Friday?

I did see him there. Josh Allen was there. He's a giant. Dude, did you see him absolutely fucking punishing softballs? Is that his charity game? Or that's probably the same one we saw played last year. That is Poyer's charity game. Josh Allen should be a professional intramural softball player.

He should stuff in for dudes, for guys. Smashing. Teams like my dad plays on with the dudes drink beer all game. His suit was awesome at the Derby too. Yeah, he looked good. He's growing his hair out a little bit. You see any of those fights at the Derby? I've seen a few kind of circulate.

No, I saw one dude had a real bloody... I wish I would have seen that one. And the woman at the end said, I fucking hate you. Was she standing up for her guy? I think so. Good for her. I couldn't tell what that relationship was.

Allegedly, she slept with both of them. I don't know. Okay, so that would make... Oh, you're inferring that from watching the movie? No, no, I said allegedly. I saw that somewhere. On the tour bus? Huh?

On the tour bus? Who, what? On the tour bus. Oh, who's tour bus? Who, what? On the tour bus? Oh, who's tour bus? Might have been on the tour bus. Tour bus? Was that before or what? I think it was in the...

I was going to say, was that before or after Jimmy Graham beat the shit out of you and you guys' box? Because I know you were bumping your gums a little bit. Jimmy beat me up. Yeah, didn't he? Didn't you say that? No, but if he was a shitty pilot, I would never say that about Jimmy. Great pilot.

Also... You said TC was a better pilot. I'm not going to show you these clips and Jimmy won't see this because Jimmy is either sailing around the world or flying around the world right now. He's going to sail around the world in a year by himself. He's training right now. You know he's like a professional cyclist?

He was riding his bike down in Miami yesterday or two days ago. I got pictures. Car turns left, hits him, takes him out. He says he did more damage to the car than the car did to him. I don't doubt it. He has a calf. He has a slice on his calf that looked like he had worms growing out of it. It was so deep and all the stuff in there.

You can see now he has tons of stitches and all that. How do you train to sail around the world? Just like hold your breath for a while? I think you hold your breath for a little bit, and then you go and he's on a boat, and he has somebody like a captain that trains him and teaches him everything. He goes on a little short two, three-day trips now. Like down to the Caribbean?

Yeah, because he lives in Miami. Flies out of Miami. What a nut job. Has he planned his route yet? Is he going left or right? I think he's going right. Is he taking him to jail? Which I know we both think he should go left, right?

But he's going right. No, you go down and you go through the Strait of Magellan and then you're off. Will he go through the canal? Panama Canal? No, because that doesn't count. Stuck that ship? Cortez? That was the Suez Canal. Was it the Sue go through the the canal Panama Canal? That doesn't count. Stuck that ship. That was the Suez Canal.

Was it the Suez that the guy was stuck in? Yes. Oh yeah. You're talking about Evergreen. Yeah. The one that went to get your canals. Correct. You're right. How did I mess that one up? It's okay. It's been a while. The Suez. It has been a while since I've been here. I always get my canals mixed up. You're saying you think that we would, you know, go

left. You're the one that leans hard right. I don't know. Oh, you're taking it political the way it comes. At first, I did not take it that way. Oh, politics. You did. You love politics. I know Diggs.

Diggs has had an eventful week. Yeah. You know me, big politics guy. Yeah, well, Diggs' king returned. Yeah, that's right. Who? And where did he return to? If you're talking about the coronation, yeah, the king has returned.

Oh, that's right. Okay, there is somebody that Tucker Carlson, right? He's going to Twitter. I'm more curious about how the model is. So he has a website. TuckerCarlson.com. His whole show is going to be on Twitter. He's the first guy doing this?

No, what's his name? Did it a while ago. Who? Tosh Buono. Soul Broke. Oh, Alex Jones. Alex wasn't just, he was all to his website. It sounds like Tucker is strictly... My show

is on Twitter. Yeah, I think Elon replied to someone and said that long-form Twitter videos and going live is coming back. And you can subscribe to us and he's going to get people to subscribe and pay money so it's like a Twitter OnlyFans? Pretty much. Is that what we're doing? Is that what Twitter's trying to do now they're monetizing videos too and so like all his videos

get millions millions of hits yeah and like that will make money for him so he's like the pioneer for that version to see if it works or not on twitter pretty much i guess we'll see unprecedented yeah well it's a tough model to follow because you know he gets a lot of numbers no matter what he's doing you're right hey can we go back for a second? Pat just hit us up and let us know that it's probably a little bit of breaking news that Jimmy Graham is going to sail around the world and just got hit by a car in Miami. So maybe if you could

expand upon that a little bit, AJ. You kind of just glossed over it real quick. Nick, I feel like I did expand upon it. I talked about the little worms I saw in the picture crawling out of his leg. His bike is probably $80,000. You know those bikes that are like super... He's like a professional bike rider.

He wears the gear. Does he wear one of the helmets that looks like a big dinosaur head? Yes, he does all of it. Jimmy doesn't like dip his toes in. Jimmy's all in. He's a professional skydiver, all that stuff. What the hell? Yeah, he's going to...

What else does he do? Is he the most interesting man? Does he play the piano and violin? Probably does, but that's his new thing. Yeah, he flies. He has multiple planes he flies. Float plane. He used to fly to practice in Seattle, he said.

Land there and then go to practice. He landed in the sound? Yeah, wherever their facility was, he landed in the water there. And then he flew a plane to the Derby. He flew himself there from Miami in this other plane he has. And then he does aerobatics. He flies a giant helicopter from Vietnam that he reconditioned. What? He told me he was sending pictures a couple months ago. He's like,

yeah, bro, I'm going to sail around the world within a year and I talked to him about the derby. What's he sailing? Like a small boat? Like a boat? Like a San Francisco Grand Prix? He sent me the model. It's not huge, but it's pretty big. And he doesn't put a lot of stuff up. He should. He wants

me to go up with him. This is the infamous Simple Man video where it's got Skinner playing in the background. Is it really? I'll tell you what, in terms of civilian pilots, it's fucking TC and it's Jimmy Graham right beneath him. I can't believe I've never asked him if he's met TC.

Jimmy is like... You see him in the sky. He's like the coach. He's like the coach chairman of the the sky. Actually, you saw it in that right there. He's like the co-chairman of the Oshkosh, the huge show that's on every single summer that goes up in the air show that like 10,000 planes fly in for. He's like the co-chair

of it now or something. So he's definitely met TC because TC actually founded that, didn't he? No, because those stakes aren't high. Travolta used to go there to that. I don't know if TC goes to that or not. The Oshkosh air show. Oh yeah, because Travolta used to go there to that. I don't know if TC goes to that or not. The Oshkosh Air Show. Oh, yeah, because Travolta does have his own house runway. So what type of boat? Can we get back to the boat here?

I don't know. I think one of those like the sailboats you see people on YouTube now because I was telling them, some of those people pop up on my YouTube algorithm like families that sail around the world now. So with an engine. So the boat has an engine. They'll have an engine, but he'll be sailing the majority of the time. Like the boat that got rescued in the perfect storm?

You sail? Are you a big sailing guy? Yeah, he swam to practice every day. Land the boat, boom, swim to practice. Who? Jim. He did? Where?

Swim to practice. Land the boat, boom, swim across. In New Orleans? Yeah, he'll go to practice. In New Orleans? Where? No, in Seattle. Oh, wow.

In Seattle? Yeah, it was a little cold in the sound, but he made it work. What? It's like a cold in the sound, but he made it work. What? It's like a cold tub. You know, people paid $30,000 to put a cold tub outside their garage now. $30,000? Are you serious, Pac-Man? Some of those cold tubs are freezing.

No, no. Okay. I mean, really expensive, I mean. Say the colder it is, the more expensive. I was listening to this cross-conversation. Yeah, I mean, some of those big-time cold plunge deals, because they have a whole condenser and keep it cold, they're like $20,000. Does Wim have one? Wim

just goes all natural. Yeah, he goes to Antarctica. So you're telling me, Jimmy Graham... You're telling me. You can't get off this. I can't. I'm a huge fan of Jimmy. He's a professional pilot, both in the air and with a helicopter. Yes. He's sailing around the world. He will be next year, he says. He will be. How do you get... Does he get a captain's license for sailing? And a helicopter. Yes. He's sailing around the world. He will be next year, he says.

How does he get a captain's license for sailing? I'm sure he does. I honestly don't. He's in the Tour de France as well? Yeah, pretty much. I don't know about now that he got taken out by this car. It was a Mercedes and he took the emblem off the front hood.

Does he just do all these things? Flying, sailing, bike riding, because it looks really cool in sunglasses? Maybe. Well, it also doesn't hurt when you look at the guy who's over his left shoulder there, who has a massive gut.

You can see Jimmy's in great shape and he's just dusting these guys. There's no idea. You mean Mac cycle? Yes, I do. I know he's rid, you know, Ray Rosenhouse.

Ray, Ray, Ray Lewis rides down there. I know he's, Jimmy has rode with him. Ray Lewis rides down there? Yeah. Miami's. Yeah. Really? Has rode with him, yeah. Ray Lewis rides down there? Yeah.

Miami, bro. What the hell is going on? Ray couldn't swim, but. Those colors don't bleed. You said Ray couldn't swim? No, he tried. No. What do you mean? That didn't work out good for him.

What happened? He didn't ride a bike. What happened when he swam? They say, Jamie said he couldn't swim. He tanks like a stone. Like, too strong. I got a buddy. Who is this?

Is he driving NASCAR too? Oh my bad I forgot he does have like a hangout He does everything I'm telling you He might be the most interesting man Hangs out you know like he just No wonder he got sick and tired of playing football Yeah a guy can do everything

Why the hell would he still be catching passes If he can you know race with Dale Jr. And fly to D.C. I'm sure he's fine with me talking. and fly to D.C.? What the hell? I'm sure he's fine with me talking about his leg getting blasted open by that car. Hopefully that car gets in trouble. I think they took a left while he was going. They didn't look or left or right on him.

Is he on IR? Is he good to go? Still riding? Oh, I think he said he'll be back on the bike today. Yeah. So just a quick four days off. It was kind of soft. Not even four, I think.

Honestly, what a good day. He sent these pictures yesterday. Oh, this happened after the Derby. Oh, yeah. This just happened yesterday or two days off. It was kind of soft. Not even four, I think. Honestly, what a good day. He sent these pictures yesterday. Oh, this happened after the Derby. Oh, yeah. This just happened yesterday or two days ago. Jeez Louise. He's a superhuman. We have a group text going.

What happened? Jimmy got hit by a car? And then he, oh, yeah, man. Did he jump on a horse at the Derby by any chance? Did he jump on a horse? Yeah. Did one of the jockeys just say, holy shit, I've seen you fly. If Jimmy got on a horse, his legs might drag the ground.

He's so tall. He sat on top of a horse. Could help him run, though. Oh, like six legs. Like Fred Flintstone. Is his bike extra big? I would imagine, right? Like J.J. Watts clubs when we were in Arizona.

Oh, gosh. They're taller than me. Closer to the pin. I was going to hit it, too. I was there like, yeah, can I use your 7-iron, J.J.? All right. And then three minutes later, I'm about to hit. I look and the thing is like above my nipples.

I'm like, oh, this is a little bit tall for me, JJ. I'm pretty sure Pat did use his iron. I think he almost said we went and used, we both used an iron from another bag. But yeah, we almost, we both almost hit JJ's, which we probably would hit it right on the green. So is Jimmy Graham an alien? Is he in the category? Because he's like, he does his own thing, man. Lives by his own, whatever he wants to do. Marches to

the beat of his own drums. But he's a really good, cool dude that's just chill and can hang out. Yeah, that's one guy I wish it would have worked out a little bit better with in the Packers. That could have been something special. Yeah, college basketball. Yeah, plus if you would have known that while he was with the Packers, he was trying to...

Yeah, I used to get pissed about him flying planes and stuff like that And now it's like Pretty much Yeah, I basically said that almost verbatim Hey, why don't we stop flying B-52s And catch a couple touchdown passes But now it's like Can't do both

Why wouldn't you be flying B-52s? Why wouldn't you? I mean, if you can I wonder where Jimmy stops. I don't know if he's a scuba diver. That's like one of the only other things, right? He could probably go after? Yeah, probably.

I mean, look at this. If Jimmy used the internet, he would know about it. I don't know if he's going to even see any of this. He has a flip phone, you said, right? No, he's got a phone. No easy buckets. If it's during the day, he's riding his bike or he's flying planes or jumping out of planes or now sailing around the world or practicing to sail.

Can we call Jimmy right now? You can try if you want. No, he's flying. Yeah. He's flying or sailing. I'm going to send you his number. I don't think he's riding in the car today. Yeah, let's do it.

He's not doing the bike. When is he supposed to take off to sail? Has he told you how long it's supposed to take? A year. I think he's going to do it in a year. Oh, so he's going to make some stops. Oh, yeah. I think he wants to experience every port, every destination.

That's what you do. That's a good way. That's retirement. We should sail to Germany with him for Pat's Colts. That seems like we've got to be there. I mean, I'm about to say there's no... Foxy, unfortunately, you can't... Are we Colts on them?

There's no ocean next to Germany. We sail over there and then fly to Germany. Well, if we're going to do a whole ground to air travel, that type of thing, see, then we got to drive somewhere. Planes, trains, and automobiles. There it is. That's the thing. And boats.

Hey, Zeke, you might have to send him a text to warn him, hey, say I gave you a number, and then we'll try to get him on if he's around. No, if you say it's Big Zach, he should just pick that up. Big Zach, bro, open it up. Come on, man, answer the phone. Yeah, Pac-Man. Pac-Man spelling in. Big Zach. Annunciation of the.

I mean, you called Bill Bob a couple weeks ago. That one's still ringing true. Big Zach on the group text. Big Zach, right? Going to be there. Big's still ringing true. Big Zach on the group text. Big Zach, right? Going to be there. Big Zach in the house. Big Zach in the house. Yeah, yeah.

So I just copy and pasted it when I came in. Big Zach opened up the game. I had to scroll back and see if Zeke. I thought you might call him Zeke, Z-E-K-E. That's what I thought. Yeah, I didn't do it first. Look at him. Your guy's still not signed.

Who? Yeah, Big Zeke. Oh, I know. There's a lot of free agents out there. What's the rush right now, though Zeke. Oh, I know. There's a lot of free agents out there. What's the rush right now, though? No, no, I know. There's no rush until somebody gets hurt, maybe. So if he doesn't sign now, he'll probably sign.

I think he'll sign before camp, right before camp. August? Right before camp. Yeah. I guess. Oh, here's free agents. These are all the free agents here. Man, Jarvis Landry, Zeke Elliott, Yannick Ngokwe, Leonard Fournette.

Are any running backs signed other than a couple that we had early? I thought McKinnon might have re-signed. He did. He just did. What's Eckler's situation like? Tom Tlasko actually came out today and he said there's been no change and we are not letting him go. What happened with Landry?

Did he just fall off the building? In New Orleans? He had a decent little year. Yeah, he was good. They just kind of stunk. They just kind of really flew under the radar. Is Carl Watson going to play quarterback ever? Yeah, where is he?

Nowhere. He's a free agent straight on the street, free agent. Yep. That's surprising. Well, it's because has he proven that he can be a backup? No, but, well. He's proven that he can work his way to a backup, but can he be a backup? Backups are getting paid, right? He's got to be a good backup.

He's paid, too, so someone probably doesn't want to pay him what he wants to be a backup, right? He probably wants 8 mil or something. Well, Heineke and Mike White got two years 16, yeah, so he probably wants 8. Yeah, that's why he won. Hasn't he made enough money? I mean, come on. Yeah, isn't it for the love of the game? Yeah, yeah. Have you ever seen Warren Buffett

just hanging out, just sitting still? Yeah, McDonald's everywhere. Warren Buffett's good at his job. So it's warranted that he makes money. Carson has been good at his job? Not recently. He has been. He has proven record of making some plays.

Before he fucked up his knee. Yeah, you're right. The Indians have hurt him bad. For sure. Yeah, early Eagles people were big time loving the dude. Yeah, the Vikings take a flyer on him as a backup. You know? Vikings? Yeah, you're right. The injuries have hurt him bad. For sure. Yeah, early Eagles people were big time loving the dude. Yeah, did the Vikings take a flyer on him as a backup? You know? Vikings?

Yeah, why not? It sounds like they're not sold on Kirk Cousins. Maybe they bring in, you know, Carl. I'm talking about Kirk, but Kirk is in a cap. You can't put him in. Oh, no, I'm not. I'm saying Wentz is going to be the backup. No question about it.

He's not starting over Kirk. Does Kirk have more years on his contract than this one? Yeah. So they didn't draft him. So now we really know you weren't paying yesterday when Pelsar was on. They did draft one. Did Pelsar talk about that yesterday? Yes, he did.

There's a lot of information given. I may have missed some of that. Well, now that you're texting Jimmy Graham, I mean, we don't fault you for all. So the picture of your calf almost fell off. That would have been sweet. Zeke, you getting a response? Not yet.

Drinking water right into this mic. That's what the professionals do. He's probably sailing. I mean, look, if this guy's going to travel around the world. Is he in the hospital right now? Hopefully he doesn't get staff. That's what people get first. Which I want to talk to Grant Hill about.

He had a nasty staff infection. I don't know. I think he came back and played after it. But he does charity work to help people with staff or something. His was so nasty. Really? That was a big thing in high school. Nasty staff. I've never had nasty staff. I've never been in a facility that the Bucs had it right.

I remember when they sprayed out everything after, yeah, when the Browns had it. Of course they did. Yeah, that makes sense. Ben Taylor, I had a buddy. He was like a five-year vet when I came into Green Bay. Awesome dude. He was on the Browns when staff staff was going right remember Charles Bentley center from Ohio State his career was shut down because he had staff so bad in his knee he had just signed there from New Orleans right it was like a massive free agent deal and he I don't did he even play a game

for them I don't think so he was one of the first like they got staff and the staff ran through their facility and that's what changed a lot where we had so many they spread stuff out they wipe tables down every second now. They have signs everywhere because you get bad staff. I'm sure we'd have to have a doctor really explain it. Staff, MRSA, whatever they call it. Yeah, MRSA. Where it can eat away at your bone.

People get amputations. Yeah. I think people definitely had to. I know I've talked to athletes that have almost had to amputate things because of it. We played a football team that had MRERS in the locker room that broke out. They had to clean out a whole entire locker room. They legit had staff come in and clean everything out. STAPH is the staff, not the STAFF.

Yes, yes, yes. That had to come clean it out, right, Z? Yes, yeah. How quickly does stuff, not like staff, but if someone gets sick, like if there there's an illness in the locker room how real is it that everyone all of a sudden is sick yeah it happens since he or just go yeah like you know how sometimes if the flu go around you know sniffles nine times out of ten if one of us in that damn meeting room i would say like the defensive back meeting room got it two or three of us gonna get sick yeah it happens but they send you home though like they won't even have you at practice if like you got the flu you got any kind of coughing hey man go go home and that's something

guys just understand because you'd think it'd be like oh i'm not fucking being soft i gotta cough i gotta be a practice depends on the player but yeah there's definitely players some guys were like oh yeah of course this guy's that's the kind of guy where, you know, every once in a while there's players that will, you know, either execute this or try. Like some guys have gotten in a wreck on the way to the facility during camp. Not during the season, but during like a big camp day at practice. I know there's guys that have ran their cards off a telephone pole

and then they get a day out of practice. Didn't Rich Ornberger say he did that because he was already going to be late, like his first season with the Patriots, and he didn't want to piss Belichick off. Genius moves. Yeah, got into a real car accident. I mean, the things you'll do for the game you love, huh? Especially with Bill. If it's your

first year and you're late to practice, Jonas Gray scored four touchdowns against the Colts, was late to practice on Tuesday or Monday, and they cut his ass. Never played again. I mean, it's crazy when you think about that,

but that is why they were able to sustain for so long because that sends a message to everybody. You guys are wrecking their cars on purpose because they don't want to be late because they know it'll negatively affect. They may not be here next week. Yeah, and Pat has said this many times. The reason is because Tom was the one that he would abide by it. So the fact that we had him

kind of doing the entire thing is the whole reason it worked because dudes like Randy Moss or Antonio Brown, they would come in and then no problems at all. And remember Randy when he was with Oakland, there was that story that he played like a quarter of dope in his helmet one game. And then he comes to

New England and he doesn't have a scratch on him. And he's like the most beloved teammate there was. There's an awesome video of him inviting Bill to the skating party. Bill shows up in full character. That was one of my favorite things I've seen. You know how Randy's accent and everything. Bill, you know guys,

I don't know, we just wanted to let you know you're invited. Randy is such a likable dude. Randy's the best. Remember that? I don't know. We just wanted to let you know you're invited. Candy. Randy is such a likable dude. Randy's the best. I actually just saw something of Jason Williams. Yeah, that was awesome. They went to high school together.

One year, Randy won the high school. Mr. Basketball. Mr. Basketball. But Randy won Mr. Basketball. Yeah, and Jason Williams won Mr. Football in the state of West Virginia, I'm pretty sure. Yeah. And he said he's the best athlete he's ever seen. He kicked, he punted, he did everything. Are Yeah, and Jason Williams won Mr. Football in the state of West Virginia, I'm pretty sure. Yeah. And he said he's the best athlete

he's ever seen. He kicked, he punted, he did everything. Talking about Jason Williams? No, no, Randy Moss kicked, punted. Jason Williams, too. I see that guy pop up. I think he has some kids that are pretty good basketballers. Yeah, he's so good. Honestly, by far, one of my favorite players to watch play. Oh, yeah. White Chocolate? Are you kidding me? There he is. Yep. Yep. That's in his office,

too. He probably made her, hey, bring my costume up to this. Yeah, I mean, they were his office, too. He probably made her, hey, bring my costume up to this. Yeah. I mean, they were just joshing around. He definitely went right back. He probably kept his roller skates on after the party and rode right back to the facility. Oh, yeah. Bill tears up quads. People don't expect it, but he was doing the splits going down.

Like Floyd Mayweather. Yeah. Like he and Floyd. Yep. Yeah, roll bounce. And this is kind of the thing that no one, I feel like, talks about is that he is like this behind the cameras or behind the scenes or whatever. He will

never, ever see any personality from him that's real in front of the media or anything. That's why I love him. I feel like that's why some people are kind of drawn to him because of how hilarious he is with the media. Obviously, from that Randyandy clip you know

from the clips of him talking about teams celebrating and what that sends a message to other people like that is how he is but we'll never find out about that because you know that's not what people want to talk about they want to talk about how brady and bill hated each other even though that's not really follow me fucking foxborough the moment i changed was when he had nike doing the draft the dog yeah his dog was yeah covet draft was that he had Nike doing the draft. The dog? Yeah. His dog was COVID draft. Was that 2020? That was the best draft by far. Why?

Brayfus' kids dressed up in characters. That was hilarious. Billy O'Brien almost blew a gasket because he didn't know if they were on the clock or who they were picking or whatever. There was that clip. There was a lot of Vikings with the Jalen. It was amazing. That was as seamless as it was, though.

The draft actually, I don't remember any big hiccups. No, it wasn't. That was when Joe Burrow, that was his draft. Because he was at home. Exactly. Okay. Because they won the natty that January 2020. Yeah, smoking the cigar.

Yep. I read something, Joe, so that's the first cigar he smoked before? Yeah. When he was in the locker room. Is that right? No, I think that's a lie. He smoked one of the SEC championships. That's what I mean. In? No, I think that's a lie. He smoked in the SEC championship? That's what I mean.

In college camp. He's been buying them up lately. Yeah, you're right. I don't know. Plus, we got to see everyone's draft room. The old GM who was at Gettleman's was terrible. Oh, yeah. And the Giants updated.

That was awesome. They put a bunch of millions into their draft room. That's when Cliff was at his house. There was just so much cool internet stuff coming out of that draft. We should probably go back to that. Well, Tony, I want to go there, you know, per se. I like going outside still. Oh, no, no.

I meant the draft. Doing the draft. Oh, you're talking COVID? Yeah. Well, that's why I took it as. No, you know what? I'm not putting. Putting what?

What? Nothing. What? Tony, you like to go and no matter what side anybody's on, like, who's still arguing about COVID? Nobody. Okay, good. Actually, I think there might be, but nobody. But I even think the – actually, Pat has said this too.

Like, he's had interactions and I have too. Like, there isn't any more, like, mask versus non-mask. Like, people who still wear them, it's cool. People are okay to each other, which is awesome. Yeah, and they're not mad at people who don't wear them. Like, it's just kind of a way of life now. Everyone do their own thing them, it's cool. It doesn't matter. They're not mad at people who don't wear them. It's just kind of a way of life. Everyone do their own thing. It's cool. Go about your way as long as you're not yelling in my face

or telling me something. That's great. That's the way it should be. Completely respect it. Back to normal. People love people. ELE. Will Ferrell said it best. As Jackie Moon. ELE. What does it mean? Everybody love everybody. Come on. Yeah. What do you call those?

Acronym? Yeah. Would it be? Yeah. Yeah. Tomato, tomato. No, that's just a word. That's not even really a synonym. No, it's not. How do you say it? How do you say it? Well, it's the same thing. Tomato. I say tomato.

No, you don't. What do you say? Tomato? Yeah, he says tomato. You guys don't. Tomato. You wouldn't get it. Pack, we both live in Ohio. What's ketchup made out of? Tomato.

Tomatoes. A lot of them mashed up. Did you say bagel or bagel? Bagel. Okay. You're an asshole. I like this. I'm excited for you.

You know what side I'm going to fall on? Milk? No, I will not jump on that train. I will not. I don't want to punch those kids when I was a kid. If I see a kid and he's calling, hey, where's the milk? Sorry, bud. Get out of my

fucking house, Junior. I can't stay here. Sorry, bud. Yeah, you're right. What were you saying, Diggs? I'm sorry. I say that unfortunately. You say milk? Yeah. Go grab me the milk. Pillow? No, you just said it. You said it okay. Okay. Go grab me what? Pillow.? No, you just said it. You said it okay. Okay. Go grab me what? Pillow. What was the other thing?

Milk. See, he did. I used to live with him. He used to drive me crazy. I'm like, it's milk, dude. Milk. You say M-E-L-K, don't you? Yeah.

Not purposely. Nope. Just how I was born and raised. AJ, do your kids drink milk? Oh, yeah. Whole milk. You have to. You force them to, right?

Like, you make them, if they don't drink one before bed, they're not allowed to go to bed. No, I don't, but I do pump them up and tell them, geez, man, I can see you're already getting more jacked than you've drank that milk. All that milk, right? Yeah. All that milk. Man, your shoulder capsules are already starting.

I can see you getting jacked, man. Holy shit. I tell them, I pump them in. And then when they read the books, man, you know, like, when you do push-ups and stuff, like, your muscles are jacked. Your brain is getting so strong right now. You're a fool, man. Do you have the bottle of Hershey's syrup? So if they want, like, a nice little treat of, like when you do push-ups and stuff, like your muscles are jacked, your brain is getting so strong right now. You got to pull it, man.

Do you have the bottle of Hershey's syrup? So if they want like a nice little treat of like chocolate milk before bed. It's actually in their bed. You ever seen the Little Giants? They wake up and you think, Dad, don't worry. It's not turds. It's just Hershey's syrup everywhere. I'm like, I'd rather be turds than all over here.

You ever seen the Little Giants? Yeah. Goat's milk on the hamstrings? Spike's dad, yeah, used to rub his hamstrings. Yeah, Luke Fickle says that he always, he still will text me that. Better get some goat's milk for the hamstrings. Yeah, Luke Fickle says that he still will text me that. Better get some goat smoke for the hamstrings. Is that what you do with your kids? No.

Pack, you're going to have to coach against him when June goes against fucking Axel. How's that going to go? You got a five-year-old, right? I see him as fast as lightning. We're not competing with any of that. Axel's not running track. He'll be six in a couple days. We might have to put him on the same team.

Why compete against each other? We're in the same state. And my youngest, too. He's a headhunter. He's a wedge buster. He's just a Neanderthal. He's the youngest, so he's just crazy. That's the same thing with Junior.

Yeah, and that's the problem is that that 2035 state championship is going to be quite a battle. Can you think about that, both of you guys? Lacrosse, Conman. I know you're a big lacrosse guy. Oh, yeah, that's right. You're playing lacrosse now. It's fun.

They love lacrosse. Yeah, it's fun. It's great. It's fun to watch. But come on, that's a dying sport, AJ. I don't think it's dying, but I don't think it's going to – the TV watching aspect I don't think is going to blow up eventually. You sure?

Because the PLL draft was on ESPN Plus last night. Boom! How about that? I missed it. Yeah, it was. I missed it too. Did Paul Rabel announce every single pick? Did he go number one?

Who? Paul Rabel? Yeah. No, he is a retired PLL legend, my friend Tony. Yeah. He is the Wayne Gretzky of the PLL. I think the sticks we have say Rabel on it. What?

Yeah, he has his own brand. He has his own – So he's like – heL. I think the sticks we have say Ray Ball on it. What? Yeah, he has his own brand. He has his own... So he's like he's the cock of the walk when it comes to lacrosse? Yes, he's the guy that made the PLL. Lacrosse is the sports. Stick and ball. Any black players in the sport? Oh yeah. Right? One of the best players

in PLL is Black. That kid from Boston? No, he's the kid from Duke. Unbelievable. Do you know what it is? Like the stick in the little basket up top and you fire the balls around? This is what I'm saying. I have no idea. What's cool is that they can blast each other's stick and they can check and knock each other down. Like, do you... Yeah, you can hit.

Kids running like this, there's three kids chopping as hard as they can at the stick to try to get the ball to fall out. They got protein in this? Yeah, that's what a PLL is. Yeah, that's a PLL, I guess. See, that's the problem. There's no... It's just really getting... The PLL is just getting started now. They had individual... They had two pro leagues, and then they finally were just like,

all right, fuck it. If we want this thing to be successful, we got to join them together. Okay. And so now they have the PLL, and now they have two or three rounds, I think, in the draft. And there's only like eight or ten teams right now. I don't know if I can add that. I got so much... He got so much shit.

I don't know. Football, track, basketball. got so much shit. Football, track, basketball. Yeah, exactly. It's very new, too. No, you don't need it. We only did it because we wanted to do it. We're pushing away from baseball into lacrosse. That makes sense. It's incredibly new to the Midwest.

Yeah, my son's little buddy scored a behind-the-back goal this weekend. Really? Was it on SportsCenter? I don't know. I believe it was the Boston Can-ins. That's one of the Thompson brothers right there. Unbelievable. Native American. He went to Albany. Cool game, but do you see it ever picking up

on TV? No. Oh, no way. Lacrosse is either, you're either all-in and this is it, or you don't even know about it. I will watch all of the college lacrosse tournament. Yes. I don't know why that I'll watch, but not the PLL. College is unbelievable. Sunday, I think I was watching. We were flipping around, and Virginia-Notre Dame lacrosse came on,

and they were playing Notre Dame, and it was snowing. So I'm like, okay, this is a little – it's a replay. It's old. They had Marcus Freeman in the booth at a Notre Dame lacrosse game talking, and I texted him. I saw him at the derby for a while, and I was like, man, this is a little, it's a replay. It's old. They had Marcus Freeman in the booth at a Notre Dame lacrosse game talking. And I texted him. I saw him at the Derby for a while. And I was like, man, I know this is like on a delay, but do you ever get a second to breathe?

Like no matter what, if you're the head coach of Notre Dame, and he was at the Derby, he was there working because NBC doesn't. Oh, yeah. He's all over the place. Well, he's finally got a quarterback. Yeah, I know. That's what I hear. Probably jacked up.

Transfer from Wake. Why can I not think of his what I hear. Probably jacked up. Transfer from Wake. Why can I not think of his name? Hartwell? Sam Hartman. Hartman. Sam Hartman. Yeah. Notre Dame lacrosse is huge as well.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. They were ranked like one in three in the country, I believe, at the time. Yeah, and they go from February until Memorial Day weekend. So it really is kind of a long season. It looked brutal. Yeah. And the problem, like you just said, people aren't going to watch it because think about when it's coming on.

Like they just had their draft during the NBA and NHL finals. Like if they want a chance, they have to do their season in July and maybe until halfway through August when they're just competing against baseball because then maybe people will watch. Yeah, against baseball. But, you know, we've gone 54 minutes, Con. I did this on purpose.

Why is that? There was basketball last night, right? Yeah. I happened to watch did you watch watch the games yes so all it says on here that this sheet that you put together which i give you credit even though you put it way down the list it's down at j which is a bit shocking i put it after all of the football okay all right i believe you but it says sixers dominate celtics which you didn't even put a score. Why not? It was 115-102. Yeah, Joel Embiid put on a clinic, didn't he?

He gets the hustle. Signature play makes a swat. Watching James Harden play too, I don't know why it's so fun to watch that dude mosey about the court. Just how he... It just looks easy. He's just so start, stop, start start stop start how to get to his spots

yeah like he knows how to use his body he's not scared to take impossible shots either like he's fadeaways and different shots these dudes take back they're so good in this series he's been really good you know we was talking early on during the year he was playing really unselfish passing the ball a lot um but he's had to score these last couple series to get over the hump. But they look real good right now. Embiid looked like shit the last game. I mean, the game before this one. He looked like Embiid, backbend Embiid,

getting over, getting the MVP for the NBA. But yeah, is it over with? What do you think? Sixers up 3-2, right? I personally do think that there is a very small chance that the celtics can push this just can't shoot right this series that yeah yesterday was probably the worst game i've seen them play in the last three years not even being like having

an exaggeration they've been so good i mean two years ago conference finals last year finals uh yet yesterday was terrible. It was really. Just a poor shooting night? Poor shooting, poor defense. I watched a good amount. I feel like the Sixers just out-hustle people almost. Exactly. It seems like, right?

They just beat the fuck out of the Celtics. They really did. And the score doesn't reflect how much of a blot it was because our bench players came in and they hit like three threes. But Embiid, he did his thing. Tyrese Maxey had 30 points. He could not miss. There was one time, I think we were down by nine,

kind of making a run, get a few stops, Maxey three. Yeah, he made one with like eight and a half minutes left or something. That felt like a dagger almost. Yeah, shush the crowd, did the entire thing. The other thing, kind of storyline that we're not talking about, Doc Rivers, he's the last coach to win a championship with the Celtics. He's the coach of the Sixers. He kind of,

he's unbelievable, and he kind of might understand how to beat us finally because we have had their number, and this series has just been different. James Harden, as you guys said, that game one he had was unbelievable. And then Embiid, yesterday it got to the point last night where every

single time Embiid touched the ball, I was like, okay, they're going to score. It doesn't matter. He's either going to get fouled or he's going to score. And then he had six offensive rebounds. They beat the absolute shit out of the Celtics, but there is a small chance, because this is what happened last year

in the Eastern Semis. We lost the Bucs game five at home. Go on the eastern semis we lost the bucks game five at home go on the road and win game six win game seven back at home and to grant hill's point this is what grant hill said your stars kind of have to win you the road games that's what mb did last night last year in game six against the bucks i think jason tatum had 44 points he won that road game for the celtics. It really just boils down to our star is going to be our stars. Tatum had 36 last night. Played unbelievable.

Slow start, hasn't he? He had a slow start. He had 36, though. He recovered well. He had no help. Al Horford, who didn't claim he has been an elite shooter the entire year. He shoots in the 40% from three. He was 0 for 8 last night. They just really haven't clicked.

And Jalen Brown had 24 points. It's not like he played bad, but they both probably have to go and do like what Booker and Duran are doing. They both have to go and score 35 points if we want to win. The only thing about it, the 76ers, they choked and did the same

shit last year. So it's a possibility. It feels different right now for them. Get them to a game seven. It does, but one bad loss could change the narrative for Philly, though. Yeah, it just has a different – this Celtics team just has a different vibe. Like, there's been a lot of drama with Jalen Brown all year about how the Celtics don't want him.

And if the Celtics do lose to Philly in six games, seven games, there is a massive chance they blow this up. That's how the Warriors feel, too. Yeah, that era is over with. Now everyone's saying, too. It'll be over with tonight. Like all year, you know, Joe Mazzella was the coach of the year, and then now they get down and everyone's like,

Jesus, this guy is so far in over his head. He doesn't know how to coach against Doc Rivers. So it's like it will be interesting. If they do lose, like you really could see them kind of not really hitting the restart button, but a lot of shit is going to change, which is crazy because they're so young. Yeah, and they'll get a great return for Jalen Brown. They were talking about the Nets wanting to do a trade with the Celtics for Durant for Jalen Brown, or not just those two, but Jalen and Picks.

But in the end, I really just think whether Joe, whether Coach is being outcoached by Doc, he can't put the fucking ball in the hoop. The biggest thing with him was at the end of game three of overtime, there was like 12 seconds left for down by one. Instead of calling timeout, just let him play. And then the clock runs out. They don't even get a shot up before the buzzer. What was the bigger, speaking of putting the ball in the net, what was the bigger loss last night, the Celtics or the Riverhounds

beating the fucking New England Revolution? Yeah, the Pittsburgh Riverhounds beating the New England Revolution in the MLS America's Cup, I believe. MLS America's Cup midseason tournament. Oh, they get a midseason tournament too? Yeah. The NBA is copying off of them? Yeah, it was absolutely devastating, but then, you know.

Score 10-0? 1-0. Oh, it's a real barn burner. KGM Fair. KGM Fair. I was saved, however, because the Plum Boys high school baseball team won the sectional championship last night. Yeah, roll stang,

baby. Unbelievable. I've never been more proud of being alone in that school. That's like our 15th, 20th straight section title. No big deal. You have the home run record, don't you, Diggs? No, I do. I have the record fastest pop time.

Fastest what? Pop time. Pop time as in what? Diggs should have won states. They were almost undefeated. Pop time. In baseball. You play third? No, catcher. Pop time, pal. Pop time. Tell me pop time again.

As a catcher. Benito Santiago is one of my favorite players ever. Tony, Tony, Tony. Don't you show him. From the time you fucking catch it, pops your mitt. To the time it pops the glove at second base. The guy's trying to run. You got the record.

Fastest pop time. Fastest pop time in the state. What's your fastest pop time? 1-5-6. In PA. Is it accurate, though? What do you mean? I don't know.

You're doing it as a stopwatch. You tell me. No, no, no. I mean, your throw accurate. Yeah. I don't know. It was a stopwatch. Did your throw accurate? I don't care about your pop-top. The throw has to be on the back. Are you questioning Coach Diggs' stopwatch time? That's one thing I'm proud of in my life. It's the fucking pop-top.

I bet your pop-top is even faster right now. Wait, was your dad the coach? No, he's the coach of all things. No, but he grew up watching Jason Kendo, the fastest pop-top in the bigs. No, Benito Santiago. That's not true. Benito changed the game. He threw people out from his knees.

No one did that before him. Never even heard of him. Yeah, I know you haven't. Jason Veritech might not have had the fastest pop-top, but he had the fastest pop-to-face time. Oh, is that with A-Rod? Yeah. That's right. Pushed him in the face, then boom.

Yeah, because A-Rod was talking that trash. Is that when Don Zim went down? No, no, no. That was before that. A-Rod was not on the Yankees when Zim took the plunge. When did Zim go down? What year was that? 2003?

Yeah, it might have been like 2003. 03, 04. Okay. Yeah, and what are you doing charging Pedro Martinez? I mean, the guy's the biggest dog in the history of the MLB. I'm not charging him. Also, Jokic, another triple-double, huh? Yeah.

He's absurd. Yeah, he's a 3-2 of the Suns. He's a 3-2 in the Suns. Did you see something? That was pretty cool. I thought it was funny. Here it is. It's hilarious. He goes in there during... Mel Tucker next to him. Oh, wow. That is...

Oh, yeah. He's... Mel Tucker, head football coach for Michigan State. Right? Go green, heavy? Yep, go white. Oh, I can't say that. Boy, oh, boy. I was talking to Tony about this before the show. It would be awesome if we had Sixers, Nuggets in the finals, and it was the two giants going up against each other, Jokic and B.

That would be old school. Yeah, because both sides, if the Nuggets go on to win, the Lakers really don't have a center that can guard. The Lakers are winning. But again, I agree. Hold on, Pac-Man. The Lakers don't have a center that can guard Jokic, and the Heat don't have a center that can guard Embiid.

Anthony Davis is the best defensive player in the NBA, at least through the fucking playoffs. Okay, absolutely. Nikola Jokic is averaging like 35-15-10. So whether AD is good or not, Jokic is going to get his. I mean, we can pull up his numbers from the playoffs. It is absurd if you look at his game log. It's hard to worry that you can't think clearly when we talk about the Lakers.

What do you mean? He's emotionally invested, you're saying? I am. Very, very emotionally invested. We're going to win this game tonight. I just need Lonnie Walker to attack. Yep. Attack.

Why'd they give the Warriors their seven-point favorites, though? Because we lost. Everyone assumes. Because Diggs assumed earlier, too. And Greeny said the Lakers are resting starters. Because we lost to Memphis, what, by 50-shit? Yeah, but game five? Yeah, 35 points or something.

But, like, I was telling Khan, like, this is not one of those series. Once you got these guys down, you got to go and put these guys down. Yes, they do. This is not a team where you just – And not let them get hot tonight. Are there Lakers sitting LeBron tonight for game five? That's what Greeny is calling for. Greeny is thinking not as an athlete, as a fan.

Yes. Yeah. Absolutely. And that's just foolish. I'll tell you who doesn't want 76ers nuggetsuggets, and that's the NBA, because those ratings would absolutely stink. That's what I was going to say. Is that the, what possible matchups could we get?

They want Lakers Celtics. They want the, yeah. They need Celtics. Lakers Celtics, I mean, they're going to, they can't manipulate exactly what to do with that. That's their dream. They need Celtics. Actually, probably best case scenario from the East for the NBA is Celtics, Sixers.

If it was Sixers, Denver in the finals, honestly, anyone from the West but Denver. Which is crazy because he's a two-time MVP there. True. Which is weird. It doesn't make sense. No. I mean, and to your question, can anyone stop Jokic?

We'll see who gets out of the East. There's one guy to call, and he currently is not on an NBA roster. Bill Lambeer? Hold on. Well, that would be sick, but Luka Garza is the one man. The Iowa stud. That's right. He's the one.

Is he eligible? He's a G League guy, right? No, he's an Iowa athlete, so he's probably cooking the books. He was not doing that. A lot of guys are, but he was not doing that. Did you send an email or something and tell him to sign this guy up? He knows. Luka Garza.

Luka Garza. Okay. One of the greatest players in the history of college basketball. He's averaging 30-30 in the G League. He might want to get the call up if you're averaging 30-30. He does, but he goes up and then they're like, actually, you know what? Sit your ass on the bench.

Carl Anthony Towns is going to play even though he's got four fouls in the first quarter. Okay? It's ridiculous. It's all part of the path, though. It's all part of his journey, right? I hope so. How many years has he been out of college? Two.

Okay. He's got plenty of time. This is all part of the journey, man. Yeah, is it? Because if he doesn't fucking get a chance somewhere, he's going to be playing in fucking Lithuania in a couple years. Beautiful over there, I hear. There's nothing wrong with that other than this guy will be

first team all NBA if someone gives him a shot. You like to watch his games and not have to stream him at 4 a.m. I will. I'll have to. I won't have a choice. Didn't you get that G League package on your YouTube TV? You know how many Iowa Wolves games I went to?

What sport is that? That's fucking team he plays on, pal. Wait, does he really play in the Iowa G League team? Yeah. I didn't know Iowa had a G League team. Yeah, the Iowa Wolves, dude. Formerly the fucking Iowa Energy. You were confused with the Barnstormers. I was confused there too, Ty. I mean, I thought Ty said that

he played with the Lakers G League. Yeah, that's what I thought. No, no, no. I'm saying whoever makes it to the finals will get a call. His secret weapon is hiding in the G League. Exactly. Like they used to try to hide people on practice squad. Bingo.

Bingo. Precisely. Maybe he can stop Jokic. That's the only X-Horse I can see. I'm looking forward to see if that happens. It'll be fun. We're going to call him off. Cut this clip.

From the G League. Exactly. Lakers should use him. They should. That's what they need. No way in hell. Kind of like Zubac. They should have never got rid of him. Boom.

Is that from the Adam Sandler movie? Zubac? No. What's that big guy's name in the Adam Sandler? Savakitis? No. No, that's from Bo Cruz. Don't mess with the Zohan? No. Oh, maybe actually. I don't think that's the one, but there's a basketball movie. Yeah, Bo Cruz. Bo Cruz.

Okay, I didn't watch the movie. Is it good? Okay, that's all I needed to hear. I'm a big fan of the movie. I love the Sandman. I don't care about... I'm not seeking Sandman doing serious roles, though. No, no. It is a serious role for sure.

Bo Cruz, I thought you were going to ask, is he a good basketball player? The movie's great. He's not a great player? Unfortunately, Bo Cruz was acting in it. He's like nine feet tall, right? Due to the fact. No, I think he's only like 6'9".

That's pretty tall. He's not many actors. 6'9". So you had a small group you could choose from. People weren't watching Hustle to see fucking Bo Cruz, okay? They came to watch The Sandman and Queen Latifah's chemistry on screen. Wait, is that his wife? Oh, yeah.

He's married to Queen Latifah? In the movie. I didn't know. No, no. Did you know that back? In the movie? The Sandman's married to Queen Latifah? In the movie? I didn't know. Did you know that, Pac? In the movie? The Sandman's married to Queen Latifah? Good for her. And Kermit Willis. People were also there to see Kermit Willis. Which one is that? Anthony Edwards.

Oh, that's his name. I hear he's great, though. He's unbelievable. He's a great player. Yeah, they have a lot of soft people on their team, apparently. That's what they say about the Timberwolves. I didn't know that. I didn't say that. Here we go. Here we go.

I'm trying to get my ears all situated, too, during that break, guys. It's good hanging out in between the break. I don't get to see you guys enough. I know. It's crazy. I don't hear about what's going on in your guys' lives. We've got Ruppert coming up here in, what, five minutes. What happened in hockey so far that I don't know about?

Con, fill me in. If I'm a casual hockey guy. Carolina beat the dog shit out of the Devils. They are up 3-1. The Dallas Stars beat the dog shit out of the Kraken. They're tied 2-2. I think it was 6-2? Yes.

That's a big score. I think it was 5-1 or 6-1 Carolina over the Devils last night. It was absolute shit. Double blowouts. Yeah. Huge blowouts. Tonight we got Panthers who are up 3-0. Is that how we say blowout now?

Well, if you're from Canada, you'd say blowout. If we're talking hockey. We'll ask Rupert. Yeah, well, he has... He's from Ohio, but he's still kind of... He has a Canadian accent. It gets in there. He mixes in Russian, too, when he's drinking vodka.

But Panthers are up 3-0 on Toronto. That series, a lot of people are thinking it's all but done. We'll see what kind of gourds the Maple Leafs are working with over there. And then tonight at 9.30, tie. The game. The game of the night. Stoner? The game of the week, yes.

Stoner, Jackie Aces, and all the boys travel to fucking Edmonton to take on the Oilers after an absolute piss-pounding two nights ago. It was ridiculous. Beat the shit out of Jackie Aces. Jackie Aces flying around. Wait, Jackie, who had the crazy back injury? Is that Stoner? Stoner. Back was a slinky. Is he the toughest guy on the planet? From what it sounds like,

I see his history. To answer your question kind of just very efficiently, yes. He is. And he came back and had a big impact, didn't he, from that back? Yeah, I'd say, I don't know, or fucking three points. Is that pretty good? A couple apples, maybe. I don't know, a goal here or there. It was a blowout.

It was an absolute blowout. I can't say that. It was a blowout, and the Golden Knights are absolutely rolling. But once again, we cannot forget there's a man named McJesus who plays for the other team, who is possibly the greatest hockey player ever. Connor McDavid. Hot take alert.

He might not even be the fucking best guy on his team. Who? Who on his team? Fucking Drysaddle. Leon Drysaddle. That guy's name is amazing. Every time I hear his name. He is unbelievable.

It's very hard to get a grip on this series because every fucking game has been a blowout. It is unbelievable. It's very hard to get a grip on this series because every fucking game has been a blowout. It's tough. Basically, whichever boys show up to play, they're going to blow the opponents big time. That's crop. Why aren't they close? It's major crop. It is crop.

The whole second wound. Don't these guys love eating peanut butter and jam sandwiches though? Peanut butter and jam. Intermission. Jam guys. Nick knows in the hockey world, you have to have a little bit of grit, a little bit of sandpaper, a little bit of jam to kind of show that you're a team that can go on. What's the sandpaper for? Is that just like, yeah. It's grit.

It's grit. It's sandpaper. It's jam. It's tough. It's hard. It's, you know, a lot of friction. Launch pail. How mad do you think actual Canadians get if they watch this show?

No, no. And they hear these accents. No, Gumby told me he loves this, and he said Edmonton's one of the toughest barns in Canada and probably the most beautiful city in Canada. Yeah, and Ty has said multiple times that plenty of people from Saskatoon or Manitoba have reached out and said, hey, thank you for promoting. Why is it so funny to hear you guys do it? Why is it funny to do the accent, you think?

I don't know. Probably just because it's one of the greater accents of all time. And when we talk hockey, that's the only time we do it. That's the only time we do it. Yeah, exactly. And he can use the lingo and stuff, yeah. Right. And Stoner is Canadian, so it's from a place of love.

I'm not shitting on Canadians, you know. Unless he plays like a fucking boot. Yeah, if he plays like a boot, you know, then that's one thing. But it's a boot time he leaves. And then it's a boot time he leaves is right. So much to learn for people that don't watch hockey that much. Rupp will tell you. You go in the locker room, you know how many oats in a boat you're getting in the NHL?

So many. Is oats good or boat? No, it's just like, hey, you need to get oat if you're right now. For the word out. Listen, I don't want to talk about it. What was the clip that was in the group chat where the coach who was mic'd up? Yes, the coach of the Panthers. What was his name again?

Paul Maurice. I love that guy. I should know more about him. I love his style of coaching. His guys have to love him. He seems genuinely juiced for his dudes. Oh, yeah. Is that how it is?

Nick, is he one of them? What's his history? So he used to be a coach of the Leafs way back in the day so this is a nice bit of revenge for him and then uh he's coach winnipeg for the past couple seasons uh got out of there and then took over the florida squad who as we know won the president's trophy last year they kind of remade their team in the off season with grit sandpaper jam made some trades much harder to play against much more physical so now paul has them running around, banging into the boards, and you know, top four check. They really get

on the puck. They hunt pucks. You know, they're a good squad. I love the dude. Just from the little clip I have seen of him coaching during a game, he seemed like a mix of a guy that can hold dudes accountable, like old school tough guy, but also like... Fuck with their players a little bit.

Mess with them. He's very good in a game situation. Did you watch that clip at all, Pat? Yeah, I did. Didn't he seem... Like, I don't know. More coaches... He seemed very confident in himself, which is all I care about. Yeah. He looked like a player or coach, but he gives you that... He makes you want to run through a glass wall. I'll say that. Like, he can probably

lead you to think that water you can walk on. Yeah, you can do anything. And hockey's the only sport, I mean, out of all the sports in the United States, lacrosse included, hockey is the only one where the bottom seed can go on and actually win the whole thing. Like it happened with the Kings. They just play out of their mind? Yeah, they just get hot. Goey's got to stand on his head.

That's true. He does that. We're good. But if they get hoot at the right time. They get hoot. Speaking of that, speaking of hoot, here they get Hoot at the right time. If they get Hoot. Speaking of that. Speaking of Hoot. Here's somebody that I think.

I'm sure females have been calling him Hoot his whole life. This guy's like 6'8". 245 pounds. Absolutely jock. About as cool as the competition. Properly jocked. Loves Jom. Very shredded.

Loves Jom. Full of Jom. Stanley Cup champion. Stanley Cup hero. Mr. Mike Rupp. Yeah. Rupp. Rupp. Stanley Cup champion, Stanley Cup hero, Mr. Mike Rupp. Yay, Rupp! Rupp, what's happening, man?

That's action there, AJ. Thank you. I appreciate it. I'm just wondering, with this whole hockey situation, everything going on right now, just tell me who's going to win the cup. That's all I need to know. I know Ty Schmidt tells me Vegas and Stoner and they're all, you know, they don't have ice in their skates anymore.

What do you think is going to happen? I mean, dude, it's wide open. I mean, I thought the Dallas Stars and the Toronto Maple Leafs would be the two teams that have got the inside track, but Toronto's down fucking 0-3. You know what I'm saying? They've got an elimination game tonight. So Dallas had a good game last night, but but um geez when you're looking at it man it's i mean for a hot team a wild card team a team that got in game 81 of 82 the florida panthers

right now the way they play in the temple they play at i mean they could get that it's wide open dude i don't know i can't answer that aj because i have no idea you might have the lowest seed team um or one of the lowest seed teams making it to the finals. Rup, I watched some of the draft lottery the other night. Was it two nights ago? Yep. Yeah.

First of all, okay, with the lottery, so how many teams get put in the lottery? Do you know? So the 16 teams that don't make the playoffs, so 16 in, 16 out, and then they change the rules a little bit because, you know, well, they changed it for various reasons. They don't want tanking to happen. So they didn't just make it a few years back.

Like, they didn't make it where if you had the worst record, you automatically got the first pick. No. We're going to have the lottery process, right? And also, the New rangers a few years ago you know we're a pretty good team well on their way in their rebuild and they won the draft lottery because the old 16 that didn't make it were all in the draft lottery now they're like no no we're not gonna do that anymore i'm pretty sure i might be wrong here uh i think there's 12 teams that are in uh maybe even less than that that are actually in

the lottery but the maximum uh no wait so that'd be 11 teams that you're that are in the lottery the maximum amount of spaces to move forward is 10 right so then where you finish is where your percentage is so it'll go anywhere from you know whatever it is uh it's like anywhere from, you know, whatever it is. It's like 20% to, you know, 15% and so on and so forth. And some teams will have 1.5% chance of winning that first overall pick. But a huge, huge thing. I think a lot of teams did not actually position themselves as far as tanking like we thought they would. But the Chicago Blackhawks are going to get a really special player.

Was there ever a doubt? Was there ever a doubt? Connor Bedard, it seems like he was the consensus number one. It came down at the end between Chicago and Anaheim. And what's weird is they don't grab the ball out of the spinny thing like the NBA does. They already knew it, and they just present us on TV of who the pick is. So how do we trust who that is, and how do they make that happen? Well, a lot of people don't trust it. a lot of people the conspiracy theories uh come out you know i mean

so we had a few years back where they had they were actually giving the footage and doing the footage live of the ping pong balls and then geez i one of them was like dropped on the floor and then put back like and ever it threw everybody for a fucking tizzy. Oh, here we go. They greased up that ball or they did something, you know, like it just becomes this total side story of a conspiracy theory. So, you know, they started doing this. They have an outside party, a third party, you know, this lottery firm that comes in and does this thing. So it's done legit.

Right. That's what these people do. OK. There was a little bit of a misread. There was a little bit of a mishap in production the other day, and all of a sudden everyone just starts going, oh, this is set up. The league wanted Chicago to win it. It's kind of crazy, that whole process.

But, you know, I don't know. Hey, I heard those Canadian accents earlier. What do you think of that? Rupert canadian hockey players uh in the locker room would they be upset at all the canadian accents being thrown around this stage um no not at all i think they're proud of it i i have a funny story um please i have a funny story with a a fellow canadian and god rest his soul steve Monador, a former teammate of mine. He passed away a number of years ago. Great teammate.

I played with him in juniors, and I remember we were playing. So in junior hockey, the maximum age you can be is 20 years old, right? And that's like the equivalent of college basketball or college football. You can get drafted from college in hockey, or you can get drafted pretty much junior hockey or whatever. So we're playing in Erie, Pennsylvania, for the Erie Otters in the Ontario Hockey League. And that's the league in Canada, right? So we're one of the only two American cities. And so everyone, a lot of these guys on the team that are 19,

they could drink. They could drink up in Canada and Ontario because they're 19 years old, and that was the drinking age. But in Erie, like if we traded for a guy, he came to Erie to play, it's 21, because you're in the States now, right? So we found a spot where we can get in, and we can go, and we can drink on the weekends or on our off days, and so we are there. And I remember this one time we're at the bar, and Steve Monador was like,

he was hilarious. But when he, you know, he's one of those guys when he drinks he gets like very focused and he'll just like, he gets this intense stare and he just kind of like stumbling around like, dude, Monador, you gotta chill out, dude. He looks like he's gonna either fight somebody or he's like just scanning the hole or whatever.

Anyways, so these guys are sitting there, these guys at the bar, these guys at the bar, they're sitting by us and they're all Canadians. There's probably one or two Americans there. And these guys start fucking making fun of how everybody's talking. So these guys are just,

you know, they're drunk. It's closing time pretty much at the bar. And these guys are like real loud. It's a nice day. Hey, Oh, what are you doing tomorrow?

Hey, like in talking, like they're making fun of Canadians. So we're sitting there, and Steve Monador turns to me. He goes, you hear these fucking guys? I'm like, yeah, dude, whatever, dude. Let's just go. Like, you know, whatever. It's the end of the night.

So we end up going outside, and these guys are following us outside now. And they're like, oh, what are you doing now, eh? And so Steve Monador turns around and just hammer drunk. He goes, I'll give you 10 seconds to apologize to me and my country. And beats on his chest. And I'm like, what? What the fuck was that? And then, you know, he starts this brawl in the bar.

And these Canadian hockey players all just jump in there and start this big melee. Because they felt like their country was offended. They're proud citizens up there in Canada, and they're intense about making fun of anything, especially the way they talk. But, you know, I think they're used to it. But, man, it's a different slang. You guys called me out on it last week when I was in,

saying I sounded Canadian. I didn't know I did. I mean, first off, whoever these guys are that followed the professional hockey players outside and continued, are they the dumbest humans alive? Like, I'm sure they got pounded. Oh, got pounded. Like, it doesn't take much awareness to glance at you guys. Like, yeah, we probably should probably just back off right now.

And if he told you to apologize, that guy probably should have turned and sprinted as fast as he possibly could. Ruppert's got a light situation on there. Hey, Boston Connors got something for you, Ruppert. Yeah, Rob, obviously we know everyone up in Manitoba would appreciate the fact that we're kind of spreading the Canadian accent. But I know there's a city up there right now that might be on the brink of burning down. If the Maple Leafs lose tonight and get swept after that whole entire

break the curse of the 17 years not winning a playoff series, are we looking at a serious rebuild here in Toronto similar to what we might have in a couple other places? Are they trusting the process if they get swept in round two, which they probably will?

Maybe next year they'll go back, not get swept, then the year after that maybe make it to the conference finals or is toronto actually in some trouble here as far as breaking up the team oh they got i think they've got to change things they got to change things immensely i think it starts with the um i think it starts with management i think it starts with the gm potentially coach uh the core they got the core four there in Austin Matthews, John Tavares, Mitch Marner, and Willie Nylander. And they're super talented, unable to get over the hump.

And they don't have that dog mentality where they're just going to find a way to get it done. They can't will themselves. They're a very talented, very talented group. But why? They've been trying for a while right haven't that haven't we known that i just don't i just don't think it's in the in their blood aj like you know what i mean like and there's nothing wrong with that like there's there's plenty of players that are solid like austin matthews for example austin matthews is our league's best goals scorer, I believe. He may not win the scoring title every year.

Ovi's getting older. Ovechkin is the all-time goal scorer. He will be when it's all said and done. He'll be Wayne Gretzky. Yeah, Apostle must just have fallen off a cliff, eh, Rube? Apostle, hey, you know what? Apostle's right there, too. But Austin Matthews is the most all-natural goal scorer in what he can do.

But with that being said, we don't see another level for him you know i'm saying like you've got to find another level and if the puck's not going in and you're scoring goals what are you doing to contribute to your team and some of these guys that we see and and i always use this as an example because i played with sydney crosby and he's a superstar, right? People don't understand. This guy, you might see him in Tim Horton's commercials. You might see him smiling with his nasty-ass salted hat that he sweats in 900 days in a row before he gets a new one. All the things that you see from Sid, he will rip your limbs off. He will scratch your face off in the playoffs to get a loose puck.

He'll do it in practice. I've seen it. And when your superstars have that mentality, now you're cooking with gas. When they don't have that, you better be damn sure you've got to compliment the entire team of a bunch of junkyard dogs to make sure they cover up

for that. Toronto doesn't have that in their superstars, and they don't have the roster to back that up pax got something what's up bro last time we was here stoner was barely walking around yeah and everybody was talking about his skates is dead and then i told you about this good thing that's called tordoff when we were sitting here i want to ask you this one question because I think the Tordoff had something to do with the way he came back and played. What do you think Stoner have to do to get past this series,

or can they get past this series? They absolutely can, Pac. I mean, this is a team like when you talk about Mark Stone, we don't know the full truth because, you know, in sports, Stoner, they keep everything top secret, right? We know that he's had back surgery. He's had back issues for a couple years. And it's like he'll play, you know, Ty and I were talking about it. He'll play some stretches, and he's awesome, man.

He's awesome on both sides of the puck. And, you know, he's the captain of their team, but he's the heartbeat. Like when he scores goals, he's fucking passionate. He's animated. He's yelling, screaming. And I think it's contagious, right? But he's missed a lot of time the last couple years because of that back. And I thought when the playoffs started, it was like,

I don't know if Mark Stone's ever going to be the same. Maybe it's even a start of him starting the playoffs because he hasn't played for much of this season where it was just going to be like, oh, we hope this is going to be an emotional boost, have him around the team. He's our leader. You see him going off the ice there. That's when he kind of torqued his back in practice there.

And it doesn't look good. He looks a little stiffy right there. But anyways, but he's come back and he's been good, man. Battling. Yeah, I mean, they've been targeting him too. They're cross-checking his back every play, every whistle. And he's going. And, yeah, Pac, they've been targeting him, too. They're cross-checking his back every play, every whistle, and he's going. And, yeah, Pac, they can get by Edmonton.

And this Vegas team, the way they play, they give themselves a chance to win every night. They don't have the big, giant superstar. You know, they've got Jackie Aces, who's been playing very well. But they're a team that just, yeah, Wild Bill, they come at you in waves. They come at you in waves. Their structure of their game gives them a chance to win. They don't get, generally speaking, you don't see a big drop-off from their wins and their losses. Like those games look, if you erase the scoreboard on all their games and you just watch the game,

they look very similar. Like when they lose, it doesn't look much different than when they win that to me gives that's a team that gives themselves a chance to hang in every game nick maroto uh co-host of yours on that's hockey talk he had something for you rupper uh thank you aj uh tonight at 8 p.m live on youtube youtube.com forward slash that's hockey talk uh ruppy what do we think about paul maurice i don't know if you got a chance to uh play with anybody who played for him but we watched a clip that the nhl put on instagram last night of him being miked up behind the bench and kind of firing the boys up and everything and right before you came on aj and pack we're asking about him a little bit and he's kind of a veteran

coach who's never i don't think he's ever won a cup but he's been around a little bit and he seems like a player's coach but he also seems like he has a good pulse on the team and that discipline side of things, too. He seems like he's got it all. He just hasn't been able to put it all together yet. Yeah, so I might be wrong on some of the stats here. But so Carolina won the cup in 2006, and that was Peter LaViolette, right? And I think right around that time is when – that was when Paul Maurice, I think, was in Carolina.

He was the youngest hired – you know, Jim Rutherford hired him. And we know Jimmy Rutherford from Pittsburgh, winning those Cups in 16-17, and he's now out in Vancouver with that club. And he hired a young, robust kind of guy that was going to learn on the job. And he was that bright future of coaching. A little bit different. I think you can see that in that video.

I saw that video as well. Just the way, I mean, I don't know. He just kind of feels like he's in it with you. And hold on a second. He ain't doing that every shift of every game. You know what I mean? Because that would get old. I'd be like, all right, dude, that's enough. Like, come on. Like, we don't need you narrating what's going it with you. And hold on a second. He ain't doing that every shift of every game. You know what I mean? Because that would get old. I'd be like, all right, dude, that's enough.

Come on. We don't need you narrating what's going on out there. But in the moment, just to stay on task, be focused, and carry out what's being done, I like that stuff. It gives me goosebumps. I want a coach that's in the battle with me. Paul Maurice is that guy. He's always very calculated, very intelligent, smooth talker, motivational speaker. Those things go a long way, I think.

And not everybody can have it. You can have guys. I think the misconception is that in a professional locker room, and I'm sure you guys can speak to it from football or from hockey, people are like, someone's got to stand up and say, no, they don't. If someone stands up and says something i'm like sit down like you don't think we know you know i'm saying so people think this is all going to be a disney movie all the time uh sometimes you just need to be in the trenches and i think paul marise is in the trenches with them nice uh big fan of disney tone digs what do you got buddy yeah rupper um

been a great second round here but it feels like there's been a lot of blue outs. What's that all about? They'll go back and forth, teams winning the games, but it feels like every game's almost a blowout. What is that about? Sorry about that. I mean, sorry. I don't know why it is like that. It's been a sorry second round.

The goal spans, the goal stretches. Yeah, I agree with you, man. It's been weird. Every goalie is getting pulled. It seems like every game we're seeing goalie changes. It's a weird second round. I don't want to say it's not good because I think it's building, and we'll see some of these series going longer.

But we want to see some – I want to see some overtimes. I want to see a i want to see some overtimes i want to see a double triple overtime i want to see yeah these teams kind of comeback wins it seems like right now whenever a team scores it's like they'll run off for four unanswered right and i think that's the biggest thing in the playoffs is you've got to set your mind when you're in a seven game series and you've got four rounds to win the cup you've got to you've got to be prepared to you're gonna dude you're gonna get fucking punched in the mouth literally and figuratively like you're you're going to that other team is going to have a momentum push just excited you just know it's coming don't be surprised don't

try to change everything don't try to win the game on the next shift just just stick to the process right and i think that's where some of the inexperience, New Jersey last night, that gets the best of them. Like they go down in that game last night, three games to one, and their best player, Jack Hughes, who I love, I think he's fantastic. He's got balls on him and the way he plays. But he tried to erase that two goal deficit in one shift when there's half the game left. And by taking the chances that he took, Carolina gets that fourth goal. We're seeing some kind of sloppy game management, I think, in round two.

I would expect it to get better, but we're seeing a lot of goals, so I think a lot of fans are happy about that. Rupert Tushman has one last one for you before we take off, but I want to ask you quick, is there any chance we can get you guys to go back and get the old sweaters

on that don't strap underneath so we can get some dudes jerseys slash sweaters pulled over their head for the fights again I love the dudes like did you ever have one of those fights where your jersey is completely ripped off and you get to skate and yell at the crowd and pump them up as you're going to the box shirtless so we

so first off when you're fighting a guy who gets out of his gear and he's wearing a lot of guys don't wear anything they're bare chested or some even have like now compression shirts you know so there's nothing to grab onto and hockey fighting is all about it's grappling and punching is what it is so when you don't and the guy doesn't have anything on it's like you're you're you're wrestling a grease pig, you know, it's fucking terrible. And these are dangerous dudes. Like I've had it before where I get it.

I get a guy's, I'm trying to get his Jersey over his head. Cause that's a bad spot too. Cause you'll get their hands over their heads like this and their jerseys tying them up and you can just feed them uppers and get them the whole time. And, but you know, when they get out of it, it's like, oh fuck. So now I got a bear hug you and not allow you to, uh, to do anything. But, uh, you know, it's funny when I,, it's like, oh, fuck, so now I got to bear hug you and not allow you to do anything. But, you know, it's funny. My introduction to that, to that OHL I was talking about earlier, that was my first introduction to fighting.

And from there to the minor leagues to the NHL, early on, it's changed since then. There was guys that we had that were strictly fighters, right? Like, that's what they did. And guys would sit there before games i remember and even the nhl when i was uh um in pre-season getting some pre-season games on or in but i was in the minors they would sit there beforehand and everything they'd have they take their gear to the the equipment managers they'd be like i need you to sew this on or loosen this up or make this strap whatever whatever. And these guys would sit there and I'd see guys. I wish I could stand up and show you guys this.

They sit there before they go on. So guys are sitting there on the, you know, in the locker room, you know, getting ready to go out for the first period. These guys are standing there and they go and they duck their heads down and drop their hands over their head. And they're working on some of these guys would like almost like lift their body up like this. So their gear comes up and they would just like a fucking turtle just right out of the shell and they'd be like i'm like i watch these

motherfuckers in the locker room i'm getting ready i'm like i'm like thinking about all right let's go have a game here i'm gonna get a goal these dudes are over there getting out of their gear as fast as they can and then they go out there in a fight and as soon as someone grabs on they do the old duck out bare bare-chested. The other guy's fucked, and you just start throwing haymakers. Like, it was a different world. And, you know, it's probably changed for the better in some regards, but some of those things, man, when guys got bare-chested,

skate around, getting the fans all fired up. There's nothing that gives a guy more juice than that. If you, at home, you rip your bare chest and you just want to fight no matter what the score is you're going to come back and win that game don't you think there's a there's a great there's a great story cam jansen who uh was a fighter in the nhl five eight johnson uh geez probably 200 he's five eight probably 215 pounds solid solid uh his head was a goddamn cinder block his arms were longer than mine he was five eight we went shoulder to to fingertips and his arm was almost arms were almost as long as mine so he had long reach so it's very deceiving but um he would sit there

in juniors in that same league so everybody is anywhere from 16 to 20 this is one of those kids that you had in high school they hit puberty way before everybody else he was bigger than everybody else and he was like big chest giant arms everything was like he was situated at fucking 17 years old where i'm just like a skinny rail like trying to work to put weight on or whatever. He would go out before warm-ups in the OHL, and he would just stand on the bench, no shirt on, after he just probably worked out, and he would just tape his stick. So guys would sit there, and a lot of guys would go out to their bench and tape his stick, and you'd look across,

and you'd see this fucking meatball over there. He's doing his chest bumps back and forth and it's like holy shit that we got to play against this guy you know we got guys on our team that you know need a nice little run of proactive and they're just everyone's getting to have zits all over their face you know this guy's like a man you know what i'm saying so it's yeah it's a different world but it gets the crowd fired up it is proactive that's a throwback to the infomercials growing up the proactive they always got the famous celebrities i bet they got paid millions of dollars to do that. But Todd Schmidt has the last question for you, Ruppert.

Yeah, Ruppert, the New York Rangers recently fired Jerry Gallant, and it seems like in the NHL it's kind of like the same in the NFL where it's like the coaching carousel just kind of goes in circles and it'll probably be some guy that we've already heard of before. Are we ever going to get to a point where, I don't know, like a guy like P.K. O'Hanley, head coach and GM of the Waterloo Blackhawks or the USHL, like, well, a guy like that who no one's ever really heard of ever get a shot to go coach, like, in the bigs or no?

Like, are the Rangers just going to go rehire torts or something? They have something against Iowa people? We got to have Joe Pavelski, your boy Pabs, give him some ups. Yeah, go to Hope. Talk about everything he knows. Pabs, yeah. Yeah, I know. So there's a fine line.

I know a lot of people are like, oh, there's just a bunch of retreads here. These coaches get rehired. I think it's true to some degree. But at the same rate too i think a lot of that comes into play because all right when your coaches get fired generally in sports is when your team underachieves right and where is the expectation lie uh for the most part when your roster is good it's when your roster is supposed to be good and they they underachieve right and so in that case if this roster is meant to win now

and they did not win now and did not take that next step and they want to fire their coach, just think about it for a second. Like, why the fuck would I want to hire somebody who's never coached in this league? You know what I mean? So I think that's where the retreading happens. It's like, we need to win now. We need a coach that understands coaching at this level, can fill out his staff appropriately, and he can do the right thing.

So I get it. I understand it. Does that mean there's not some fantastic coaches outside the NHL coaching in minors and overseas? No. I mean, there is, and there's guys that probably deserve an opportunity. But I understand some of them. Gerard Gallant, he took a Vegas Golden Knights franchise in year one to the

Stanley Cup Finals. He did really well in Florida with the Panthers when he was there. That was kind of out of the blue firing. And he took a team that wasn't supposed to be that good last year, was a team that maybe wouldn't even make the playoffs last year in the New York Rangers two games away from the Stanley Cup Finals. So I think those are deserved hires. I think you should get hired somewhere else as well. Nice. Rupert, tell everybody where they can find you tonight at 8 p.m. Yeah, so we got tonight, 8 p.m., youtube.com slash that's hockey talk,

and we'll be just ranting and raving, gumps. Nick and I will be talking about the playoffs, and, yeah, man, it's going to be a good time. We'll have a huge game, a couple games on tonight, but a huge Toronto elimination game against the Panthers. Let's go. Absolutely.

Ruppert, really appreciate your time, man. Thank you so much. We'll be thinking of you when we watch these playoffs. Ladies and gentlemen, Mark Rupp. Hey, Ruppert. Thanks, Rupp. Hell yeah, Rupp. I haven't seen him in person. 6'8".

6'8", 7'1", with skates on. So did he play basketball, too, growing up? I assume. So he's taller than Chara? Yeah. I think he's a hair under Chara. What's he listed at without skates? 6'5". So he's...

I've seen him here last week. He's about 6'6". He is like 6'5", but it honestly feels like he's like 6'8". For some reason, he feels bigger than 6'5". He's a wide 6'5". So that's gigantic for hockey because a lot of people are always shocked when they see hockey players and they're not nearly as big as they think they are. Yeah, because on skates,

he's probably, what, 6'7", Nick? 6'8"? Yeah. Oh, yeah. What a scary presence. Yeah, Chara is actually seven feet on skates. What is he at normal? 6'7"? 6'9", I think. He's 6'9". He just ran the Boston Marathon.

Yes, he did. Do you know how long it took him? I think he did an hour and 22 hours. Yeah, he took like five steps and finished. An hour and 22? Yeah, I like that. When is the fastest marathon time? Hour 19.

He almost broke it. I think... Can you break that down? How many, what was their minute miles? 20. One minute and 20 minute miles. Three minute miles. They did that for 26.2?

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Anyone here run a marathon ever? No. No. What do I look like? Pac-Man, I'm surprised you haven't. No.

Because you're actually fast. Can you run distance? Can you run a distance? I can run distance, but I've never ran a marathon. But you run a mile in like six minutes off the couch. Yeah, I do do that. I've ran a 5K. But you run a mile in like six minutes off the couch. Yeah, I do do that. I've ran a 5K. Right off the couch.

I like to give me like a mile and a half up on the... Like on a treadmill or you like running outside or what? I like both. It don't matter. What's a 5K? Three miles? Two and a half. Three point something, I think, right?

3.1 maybe? I did when I was like in sixth grade, seventh grade. Really? How fast did you do it? Probably one of the slowest. I was terrible. Horrendous at distance running. I think I've told you when I was like in sixth grade, seventh grade. Really? How fast did you do it? Probably one of the slowest. I was terrible, horrendous at distance running. I think I told you when I was in high school, we had to run the mile my first couple years in our summer before our workouts.

Sure. Very first time we ran it, my brother's two years older than me, we're pulling down, we're behind the D-line and sprinting the last 100 yards trying to beat each other. We're so terrible at the mile. And I got worse. I ran that like two or three days a week all summer long. I got worse every single time.

Never got better. You had to do it that often? Why do you think that is? Every week. I don't know. I'm not built for distance. I mean, definitely not now with zero cartilage anywhere in my knees or ankles. But even then, I don't know because my brother, too, same thing.

Was it like a duck foot thing? Definitely not duck foot because pigeon foot, pigeon toed. I've never walked duck foot like that. It's the same for everybody though. Yeah, I guess I always just said I'm all quick twitch. I don't have any of those. I don't have that slow twitch. That's for slow twitch people. Did you see the Oh my God. Someone ran 201?

Yeah. So someone's going to beat the two hour marathon then. Never been done. Eventually. I don't know if they could. I mean 437 miles is absurd. 201. Oh no. If you just cut a tiny bit off. You just cut. I mean, those guys, that's an absolute sprint for 26 miles. Yeah.

It's absurd what they can do. That's so fast. It's unbelievable. That's why when we were watching the marathon and that lady from Minnesota almost won it. That was crazy. Oh, yeah. They say that Berlin is typically a fast track, too, though. Is it? Yeah. That's why there's two

of the top times. Now, you said, now, Diggs did let us know Kelvin kipped him in second. That was wind-aided. That was wind-aided 2-1-24. Heavy wind that day. Heavy wind pushed him the whole time. It was weird. Never changed. Yeah, so that's a completely different situation. All right, Kelvin, get Kelvin off the list, then. He shouldn't be second. Put

Canisio. Canisio. Yeah, it's ridiculous. You mentioned the no cartilage. Yeah. Did you see the hockey player who has to get a cartilage transplant? He's out all of next year. Okay, so I saw they said he's out the rest of this year and next year. Yeah.

The entire year and next year. What kind of? I don't know. I honestly was wondering if you ever heard of it. Well, they've tried all this stuff where they can take cartilage. They put stuff in the cartilage, like squeeze it in there. I know I've had plenty of shots of that stuff that's supposed to lube up your joints, but I know they've tried experimental where they take some stuff out of your knee,

grow it somewhere, help get it whatever, and then put it back in. I know a guy that played in the league that has a completely garbage knee. He's been non-weight-bearing for, like, the last seven months because he had something like that done. Damn. Yeah. Yeah, because, I mean, he's the captain of the team. No, he's not in the league anymore.

He's done, recently done, but he had a horrible, messed-up knee. And it's almost like experimental, though. Yeah. It's definitely not, like, run-of-the-mill yet. They might not even know if he can play hockey again. Well, or maybe he's getting microfracture. Microfracture is where they go and they drill holes in the bone to try to stimulate cartilage growth.

I was lucky I had a doctor that didn't do that. He thought I was going to have to when he went in and he didn't. Greg Oden had that on both knees. Think about that. Amari Stoudemire actually had it too. So, like, that's a nasty surgery. You're trying to stimulate cartilage growth, but they drill holes into it,

and then you're non-weight-bearing for months. It would be awful. I think that's happened to Alonzo Ball right now, too. Alonzo Ball? It's like his third surgery. Yeah, they can't figure out what is wrong with his knee. The doctors have actually said, we don't know what is wrong with his knee.

He's had like three surgeries, huh? Oh, yeah. Is he the best one out of all the brothers? No. Well, we won't ever find out. Lamello. Where's he at? He's in Charlotte. And he's doing well? Yeah, he won Rookie of the Year and then he got hurt. He won Rookie of the Year when? Two years ago.

And then last year he got hurt for a little bit, but I mean, Charlotte's just never going to be good at basketball, unfortunately. Is Jordan still there? Yep. Jordan's still the owner? He's looking to sell, though. Yeah, allegedly he's trying to get out. Because Ocelopoulos was looking to buy it. Excuse me? Who? Albert Ocelopoulos, the guy who was almost bought. Yeah, allegedly he's trying to get out. Because Ocelopoulos was looking at buying it. Excuse me? Who?

Albert Ocelopoulos, the guy who was almost bought. Oh, we talked about him on the show, right? That's how Wendy knew about the Commanders thing, because Wendy, NBA world, doubted with Ocelopoulos. Okay. Does anyone know, how did Wendy, I guess, build up his network of people he knows and his team? He is the guy in basketball.

He and Shams, right? Yeah, I remember. I was in Woj, but Ty mentioned this, I think last month, two months ago, Wendy's the second all-time winning scorer in Akron high school history. What high school in Akron? Do you know? St. Mary. What are you talking about?

He was point guard for LeBron. Maybe before LeBron. He's a little bit younger. He might be your age because I'm pretty sure he was on Ohio State's basketball team when you were there. Wendy was, right? Yeah. He played overseas for like seven years or so. That's why he's always his backdrop.

His backdrop, that's his gym that he's always getting. Did you know this track? No, I didn't know. Wendy Windhorst? Combo guard. What's his first name exactly? Brian. Brian Windhorst.

A little fucking respect. That's why I'm trying to get his name out there Combo guard. What's his first name exactly? Brian. Brian Windhorst. A little fucking respect. That's why I'm trying to get his name out there, Ty. And then he could have won. You should know his name. He led the country in scoring in high school. Yes. When he was on LeBron James. No, LeBron was older than him.

Do you listen? LeBron was already in the NBA. And Wade, he could have went pro, but he loved writing and journalism so much more that he joined the Akron Plain Dealer. Yeah. Stuck to his morals. And then. High character guy. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. He had a dream and he said, I don't care. Andain Dealer. Yeah. Stuck to his morals. And then. High character guy.

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. He had a dream and he said, I don't care. And LeBron was like. Number one pick. LeBron was like, prove it to me for like a year or two that you do love journalism that much. And then I'll take you on this wonderful ride with me.

And he did. And boom. What a wonderful ride it's been. Yeah. Amen. And now Rich Paul's with Adele. That is. That's right.

Are they still together? They are still together. They're at the Lakers game. I don't know, but I found this the other day. Rich Paul also very good at basketball. Yeah, he was the bronze point guard, right? I think Rich Paul was the bronze point guard. I know.

I played with Sheehan. Sheehan Cotton played with the bronze point guard. He actually was. For sure. Yeah. Rich Paul was the bronze point guard. What do you mean, actually was? You know what I mean.

No, he means actually just because, you know, AJ thought that. Because Wendy did not play basketball and all that stuff was not true. What do you mean? Why are they saying that? Why are you lying to me? Oh, he's spreading all this fake news. I'm not lying to anyone. Oh, Foxy's mad because he has another insider that played basketball that wasn't as good as Wendy.

Is that why? No, Wendy is famous because he followed LeBron throughout his whole career. That's what I said. Oh. Yeah, what the? Wait, was Wendy really at the Acrobatic Journal? Boom. Oh, no.

Boom. Yeah. Boom. Yeah, boom. Proof's in the pudding, AK. I watched LeBron play twice in high school, and I don't remember seeing Wendy, especially like he's got a weird tan. I don't remember that either. I've seen him play a couple times too. I think I would have noticed.

Unfortunately, I think you put Wendy's face on my old teammate, Sheehan Cotton's body, who went to Ohio State. No, no, no. That might be. Those tattoos look eerily familiar. No, that's Wendy. He went to the Bahamas. Sheehan's a rapper now, too.

Oh, did he? Yeah. So which one's Rich Paul, then? Rich Paul's in the middle. Is that him, 12? Yeah. Man. His dad was the coach of this team.

Was that Rich Paul? Okay, I remember that whole thing. That was his 12? Yeah. Man. His dad was the coach of this team. Was that Rich Paul? Okay, I remember that whole thing. That was his dad. Yeah. So was his dad an agent? Who knows if anything is real that we're talking about? No, no. That's real.

I forget if there's a documentary. For some reason, I remember watching the entire story around this entire team. Maybe it was a Carmelo LeBron documentary because they went and did the, they played Oak Hill in high school against each other and then that's why last year was a massive deal because Bronny James played. Sheehan Cotton, that is Sheehan. I got no demon right there. You guys put Wendy's head on it. Yeah. Okay.

Sheehan's rapping now. I know LeBron's been, he's pumped him up a little bit. He's doing. LeBron with all his childhood friends, like they're all in that crew and everything. It's pretty awesome. I want to see that house LeBron with all his childhood friends. They're all in that crew and everything. I want to see that house LeBron built in Akron. That giant monstrosity. You ever been there, Pat? No, I've never been there. Monstrosity, you said.

What is that? That's not a good word. That's what you were going to say. What is this about? Monstrosity means terrible. Oh, does it? Yeah. If I'm describing the size of something? Big and ugly. That's what they said about Stark Towers.

You guys all jumped on me. What is that from? Why you all instantly hit on monstrosity? Well, because you were describing as if it was a terrible build. It's a part of the English language. But the fact that all like three of you said at the same time, it has to be for some toxic, stupid video or something happened. No, no.

We saw an opening where we could. We saw an opening where you said something. Frame you as a bad guy. This enormous house he built. That's how I take it. When I say monstrosity, it means enormous. Something, especially a building that is very large and considered unsightly.

Ugly. Cut the last part off. Something that is outrageously or offensively wrong. Monstrosity. I don't know if I agree with all this. You should have said he built a beautiful, big home. Just say your truth. If you want to use it positively,

then just do it. I did use it positively. I would like to see this house. I believe he has a whole street, right? He's got a house all over the place. He's got a school there, too. The school's killing it. Jack Carr's coming on in a little bit, guys. We're doing great. Oh, yeah, the school's killing it. Oh, yeah. Jack Carr's coming on a little bit, guys.

We're going to get to a quick break because we have Jack Carr coming on. Diggs, I don't know if you can ask him about confirmed kills and everything. You were talking about Prince Harry was talking about earlier. I don't know what you can do. You can try if you want. You could. Yeah, you could ask. You just have to give the seal salute.

What is that? You're going to have to Google it. Can you show it? Is that the human centipede stuff Diggs has been talking about what do you think when was that oh when we were talking about how rap sheet's mouth was looking when he was on that crew boat what was he doing oh what do we do yeah we talked his lips are sewn shut yeah still that's not rap sheet rowan no it's not you're right ben roth that guy was absolutely jacked for anyone that saw the program yesterday ian rapid port was on the crew team in high school and his wife sent in a picture rap sheet rowing. No, it's not. You're right. That guy was absolutely jacked. For anyone that saw the program yesterday,

Ian Rappaport was on the crew team in high school and his wife sent in a picture and I'm still not sure. No, crew team was in college. Crew team was in college. My bad. High school. Wait, was it crew team? But he had to row in high school too though. He picked up crew in college. When you go to those... Did he? Oh yeah, when you go to those schools that have

crew programs, they damn near send a text. Wait, is there high school crew? Do people row in high school? I don't think so. Yeah, some places do. Maybe on the east coast. Maybe in Gloucester. Maybe on the east coast they have it.

North, I guess. It's coastal elitist, maybe. Yeah, actually, bingo. I mean, Ivy League school, what do you expect? But you damn near get a text from, if you go to school in the northeast, they will text you. I bet this happened to Bruce. This happened to me at my college. You get get a text from If you go to school in the northeast they will text you I bet this happened to Bruce this happened to me At my college you get like a text Hey would love to see if you want to

Come out for the crew team this year Yeah cause they like need to recruit people to do it Cause it fucking sucks to do But don't they give scholarships for it too The really really good people Like the Winklevi So they're just trying to get enough people to field a squad Yes exactly

Man Bingo So they're just trying to get enough people to field a squad. That's all they're doing. Yes, exactly. Man. Yeah. All the shenanigans in the boathouse like you talked about. Bingo. And that's what the kids go for. Is that a known thing? The boathouse is weird?

Things happen? Oh, boy. You don't even want to know what a boat bong is. Is the boathouse like a boat bong? Yep. What is it? I just said you don't want to know. So a boathouse is where they store their boats, but then they also have parties and stuff. Just hang out and fellowship.

Yeah, just boating around the boathouse. Anyone that follows anything going on in the world definitely understands, has heard who this guy is, has read some of his books. Navy SEAL, obviously, all around just unbelievable American patriot hero writer mr jack carver man thank you guys for having me i love that intro too it gets me fired up hey seeing your unbelievable husky beard just act like a ruggedly handsome dude and your energy gets me fired up man your sixth book right here we have this this thing, Only the Dead, Jack. Okay. How does this differ from anything else?

Is this your seventh or sixth book? Because I hear both. Yeah, this is the sixth book and working on the seventh now. Also working on a nonfiction book on the 1983 Beirut barracks bombing to keep that history alive and some of those lessons alive so we can hopefully apply them going forward as wisdom in the future but uh a lot of a lot of irons in the fire right now but i'm extremely fortunate well that beirut one geez that'll be interesting especially non-fiction but this one only the dead how did this thing uh i guess when you're writing these things you obviously there's process i know you've talked to us on the show about everything that you do when you when you write this it seems completely overwhelming to

even think about writing a book let alone books, especially something like this that's so good. I guess, how did this one differ from anything in the past, and have you had to change up anything over the course of writing these books? Well, I changed where I write, just because we've moved around a little bit. That first one, I was still in my last year in the SEAL teams. My job then was to get out of the military, because it's a gigantic bureaucracy, and you have to go to medical and dental and get read out of secret programs and turn in gear and do all this stuff. But because it's the military, you also have to stand in line just to make the

appointments to do that. So I started writing really in the office off our bedroom in a little rental in Coronado, California, which is one of the SEAL team hubs. And so I got to do that there. And then we moved up here to Park City, Utah, and I started going to the local library and using one of those study rooms that they have. And you can use those for as long as you want until somebody else starts waiting. And then it's like a two hour time limit. And as soon as high school got out, I'd have to get bumped out for some high school kid working on a history project. Last one, I started renting little cabins around Park City up here. And that was very helpful. Just quiet, uninterrupted time.

And this last one, I went to do that again. But then I felt bad that I wasn't with my family. So I felt guilty. So I just said, you know what? I'm just going to do this again between like 10 at night and like 3 or 4 in the morning. So when I'm not being interrupted by children that are wonderful, by the way. Yes. Yeah, when you close the door to your office for anybody

that works at home, you know that that acts as a magnet for all your children and the dog for some reason. I don't know what's in that door that just draws them all to it. But process-wise, that's really the only thing that's changed is the location, is me searching for a place to write. But the process itself, coming up with a title and a theme and a one-page executive summary and an outline, and then the narrative, that has stayed the same. And this one ended up being the longest to date. And I didn't start out thinking that I'm going to write the longest book. It also ended up being the most brutal. And I didn't start out thinking it's going to be the most brutal either. It just naturally evolved that way. But it is 139,000 words,

my longest to date. And that's just what it took to get the story the best it could possibly be. But it can also be used as a blunt impact weapon or as a doorstop. Dual use technology. Multi-use. I love that. Now, is it true that you have to get this stuff still signed off from the government, even though it is fiction? Do they still go through your whole book and maybe redline some stuff? I did it for the first three because I was so close to still being in the SEAL teams, and those ones were more tactically oriented. So I just wanted to make sure there was nothing in there. And what they did take out was pretty ridiculous. But anyway, I did for the first three

books. The fourth one called The Devil's Hand, I really went deep down the rabbit hole into bioweapons research and biodefense is how they term it. And I didn't want the government to be censoring things that I didn't learn in the military, that I learned on the outside, essentially doing the job of an investigative journalist. So I didn't submit that one. The last one in the blood, I went deep down the rabbit hole into artificial intelligence and quantum computing, specifically with the military and intelligence aspect of those two entities. And I didn't want to turn that in either because I didn't learn any of that in the military. And I didn't want the government to start X-ing out things that they were nervous about just because I had them in a book, but not having got them from the military, I didn't. So now I don't do it anymore. I feel like there's enough time between when I served

and now. Also, what we do in the military, specifically in the SEAL teams, I should say, in special operations, isn't that secret. Every big city SWAT team is going to serve a warrant tonight somewhere in their city. And that's essentially what we're doing. We're just doing it in Baghdad or Kabul, where we have an AC-130 gunship overhead and a Reaper drone and a bunch of other assets at our disposal. But essentially it's the same thing. It's going to kick somebody's door in the middle of the night, grab them out of their bed and bring them back for interrogation and then go prosecute some follow on targets. I love it. Now I got one more quick question before some of the boys have some stuff for you. So Chris Pratt,

obviously you're very tight with Chris Pratt, Chris Pratt's father-in-law, Arnold Schwarzenegger. Are you tight with Arnold? Have you met Arnold? Have you got to lift with him over there in Venice Beach? What's the deal there? So I have not gotten to beat Arnold yet. I had

an invite from Patrick. So Patrick Schwarzenegger was in the show as well. He plays a seal in the show and he was absolutely fantastic. That dude's like a male model too as well. I've seen him. He's got it going on. So he did invite me over and I need to take advantage of that at some point.

So, Patrick, if you're watching, I want to come over to that barbecue. But I haven't met Arnold yet. But I don't get starstruck too often, but I think that I would with Arnold, just having grown up with him and all those movies and so impactful as a kid growing up in the 80s. I did get to have a great call with Sylvester Stallone, though. He wanted to talk to me about a project. And so I was trying to not get too overly excited. I was trying to play it cool. But I took a little picture of the screen just so I could

memorialize it for myself. Because growing up with Rocky and Rambo, I mean, how cool is that? So it's been really interesting to have conversations with a lot of these people who I grew up idolizing, whether they were authors or they were people in Hollywood, and now to sit down with them and have conversations and realize that they're just normal people like anybody else. And Chris Pratt is amazing. He's just somebody you'd want to have a beer with, want to have a whiskey with, coffee with. Just a solid human being and a solid dude. Nice. Boston Conner, what do you have?

Yeah, Jack, you just kind of mentioned the AI kind of in one of your books. And right now, it is exploding, at least on the internet, with people making fake songs, making movies, commercials, all this stuff, strictly using AI. How do you think AI is going to affect the military in general? Well, I think it's been around for a little bit. And if my research into that last novel is any indication, it has been around for a little bit of time. And we're in a race with China over who can have the more powerful quantum computer, the more powerful artificial intelligence entity. We were. This is just based on my research. I could be wrong. But a year ago when that book came out, the previous months that I put into doing that research, we were still ahead. Don't know if we're still ahead. Don't know if we'll always be ahead. But we certainly were after my research for that last novel. Things could have definitely changed. But it's going to affect every industry in some way, shape, or form. And the question isn't now whether we could or whether we should.

It's already there. And now it's about management. And what we're seeing with this writer's strike is one of the first time that a union's coming together to protect jobs, to put things in place that are going to protect some of those jobs that can be taken by AI. Maybe not today, but certainly in five, ten years, of course. So I think we're going to see that in other industries with other unions here down the line. It's just inevitable. So now it's here and it's now it's just figuring out how to live with it. Pac-Man Jones has something for you. Hey, Jack, I read they're toning down the famous Navy SEAL difficult test regiment because

due to safety. What is your concerns on that? And what do you think about that? Yeah, I don't have any insider information on that, but it would not shock me if they are changing some of the requirements in order to get more people in. It's just when you have a recruiting issue, when you're not bringing in the number of bodies that you need to, it's just natural for those standards to drop or to be adjusted or the language around them to be adjusted, meaning we're going to give you not one try, not two tries, not three tries.

We're going to give you as many tries as it takes to get you through this part of the program because we need these bodies. And 10 years ago, that person would never have made it into the SEAL teams or into any special operations unit. But maybe today they are because of dropping those standards to get the bodies because they have a recruiting crisis, because people are looking at our withdrawal from Afghanistan and a few other things and saying, wait a sec, these people had 20 years to plan for this withdrawal. And that's how it turned out as a parent are you going to encourage actively encourage your child to go into a organization that has 20 years to plan for something and that's their best foot forward uh maybe not so uh so yeah i do have

concerns about the future of our military particularly when it comes to standards and uh unfortunately only time will tell jack that's that's surprising that they may be having issues getting people. I understand military in general, all the branches, but for special forces, I feel like it's never been a better time for young people that want to be you. They want to do what you did. They see about it later. So I would imagine it's just because they have a smaller pool to choose from because we have less people entering? I think so. I think it's a very small percentage of people that even attempt to try out,

and then those that try out, an even smaller percentage of those make it through training, and then a percentage of those get to their team and even get weeded out there once they're amongst their peers that they're going to be going. Here we go. We got them? Hold on.

What do you think? You're going to recall him back? Zeke, you're going to call him back? Yep. Do you think maybe? He's in the middle of something good. Hopefully. Was that the government that shut him down?

I was just thinking. What did I ask about? Recruitment? AI. It was AI. Oh, no. No, I didn't want to do that. Is that Sweet Lake?

No. Jack GPT? If he's right in about AI. But that is crazy. Five, ten years. Probably changing the game. See you later. Five, ten. I-10 years. Probably changing the game. See you later. I thought it'd be shorter.

It's going to integrate with us. You just got to find a way to find your place. Does it integrate with people? It's jobs it takes. Can we use it with your job? Make you more efficient at your job? That's what we got to figure out. Absolutely.

For the movie and TV industry, people who do i don't know animation would that be something that ai oh yeah i would assume so because there's been what about writing papers in school hey i want to write a paper i know now you can go look at the whole song we know they can write yeah someone actually i've seen uh teachers on on twitter posts a a first page of an entire essay, a 10-page essay that was written by AI, but the person accidentally left in the first paragraph where it's just the AI telling them, I don't know everything about this book,

but based on what you've typed in, this is what I have deciphered regarding your theme and everything. So obviously, F, whatever. But yeah regarding your theme and everything. It's obviously F whatever. But yeah, it can do anything. It's nuts. The fact that it can mimic people is incredibly dangerous. I wonder how many times when he came up, how many times they got to take the test. Because I think that was a big part of what he was saying.

Like, hey, these fucking kids ain't prepared these days. Oh, yeah. I'm sure it's the old school versus young school. I believe we have them back. Jack, we have you back. There we go. AI got you, huh? AI got you.

See, that AI is that computer, and they didn't want us talking about this stuff. They shut it down. They can't hold us back, Jack. I know Ty Schmidt has a good one for you. Yeah, Jack, speaking of the writer's strike, I know with season one of The Terminalist, I know you're a consultant. I can't remember if you actually penned any of the scripts for the show, but I know you're on set and I can't remember if you actually penned any of the scripts for the show, but I know you're on set and everything.

I'm just curious, has season two already been written for the terminal list? And has the writer's strike affected production for it in any way, shape, or form, or no? So it hasn't yet, and we'll see how long this writer's strike goes on. It certainly has the potential to delay production. But we're doing a spinoff series first, starring Taylor Kitsch and chris pratt will be in three of those episodes origin series to kind of show how that character ben edwards kind of how he turns bad how he goes from the seal teams to the cia it's more of an international espionage thriller rather than a conspiracy revenge action thriller like the terminal list was and it is awesome so it's all outlined we have about

like five scripts we're in the can before the writer's strike hit um and i'll be writing one of those scripts i'll be writing the finale but uh we're supposed to start uh production here you know a few months but uh writer's strike goes on for a few months it'll push it to the right that's just how how these things go but we're gonna roll or we're supposed to and things can hollywood can go off the rails at any time but we're going to roll, or we're supposed to, and Hollywood can go off the rails at any time, but we're supposed to roll right from that into season two called True Believer, which is based on my second novel, and that's starring Chris Pratt. So it's greenlit, and it's in the production phase, the writing phase,

but we'll see what happens. Tone Diggs? Yeah, obviously Terminalist is awesome. Also on Amazon, Jack Ryan. So if you're doing a spinoff, CIA, have you thought about maybe seeing if we could bring Jack Ryan in with that spinoff show with CIA? And my real question is, is there a most accurate or one of your favorite military movies that you think is most accurate that you also think is a great movie or show? Yes. And on the Jack Ryan thing, I saw they announced yesterday that this season coming up, fourth season, is the last season.

And they said the final season on the graphics. So I think that's moving on. But as far as movies, I try to enjoy them for what they are, knowing that there are going to be mistakes in there and technical mistakes and that stuff. I try to enjoy them for what they are. But usually, there's one, 13 Hours, for whatever reason, that one really stands out to me as a modern film that captures some of what it feels like

to be in a very dynamic situation. And for whatever reason, that one, I saw that one. And I see movies these days and they don't make me want to go back into the SEAL teams or want to get back into paramilitary side of an intelligence agency. But I saw that one and I was, for a second, maybe two, I wanted to get back in. And then I came to my senses.

But that movie, they did a fantastic job with 13 Hours. Jack, a huge fan of yours. Bill McComas has come out from his coding dungeon back there and he has a question for you. Bill? Hi, Jack. Do you have any plans on tracking down someone

or maybe like a dream casting for Rafe for Season 2 or any of the future seasons? So I do, and I get this question quite a bit, but I never say who my person is because if it's not, then for the rest of the time people will be thinking that you didn't will be thinking that you didn't get the person that you wanted so i got chris pratt he was the person i thought of as i was writing the terminal list even before he'd been in guardians of the galaxy before he'd been

in jurassic world and he was just in uh what made you think of him why that seems like a unique choice especially when he used to be like a comedic guy that wasn't as built like he is now i feel like too exactly exactly he was parks and, a little overweight, jovial, fun. And then I saw him have this very small role in Zero Dark Thirty about the Bin Laden raid. I saw his transformation physically, and I saw that acting ability, and I said, this is the guy. And, of course, I have no connections in Hollywood, no connections in publishing, nothing. And I'm choosing him to play my main character back in December of 2014. And I chose him, and I chose Antoine Foupa to direct because I was choosing my main actor. I might as well choose my director as well.

And we all ended up coming together to do it later on, which is absolutely incredible. But I got the exact actor I wanted to play my main character, the exact director that I wanted. We're all executive producers on this thing. And then when it comes to the other characters, then I never say exactly who I envision playing them. But we'll see. With Rafe, that's going to be an interesting one because he is a fan favorite. And there's definitely a short list, I think I can say that. Okay.

Shortly, you can't mention any names on that list, though, right? Any wish list? No. Can't do it. No. Paul Giamatti, maybe? Paul Giamatti, okay. Paul Walter Hauser?

That's who I was thinking. Jack Staines. Jack, are there such things as confirmed kills? We hear this stuff talking. We were reading a book earlier. Someone was talking about their confirmed kills. It's not that clean, is it? Does it always happen?

We discussed it going into Najaf in the summer of 2004 because it was a multi-day campaign for us. It was a sniper team, 11 days. I think the total campaign to retake that city from the Jayshalmati militia was two weeks, but our part in it was 11 days. And we knew we were going to be in this fight day, night. It was like the World War II movies I saw growing up as a kid because we weren't choosing the time and place of the engagement like we usually did. we were just in this come this crazy situation with big army with two seven cavalry we're moving tanks forward abrams tanks bradley fighting vehicles we have air coming in we're doing our sniper thing we're doing our close air support thing we're running through the

streets pushing them back uh by to another set of buildings taking some high ground bringing the tanks up bringing some water up because it's summer in Iraq. And you need that water. You need that food. You need those bullets to continue that logistics train to keep pushing you forward. So we did talk about it in that respect, knowing that it was going to be a target rich environment and it was going to come up when we got home. So what we put in place was that you couldn't just be in a corner of a room and say, oh, I got a guy, whether you did or not. And then because we didn't want anything. We didn't want that to to overshadow some of the things that we were we were doing as a team. So you had to have somebody else.

And it sounds weird. Sounds like you're talking about stats. You're talking about lives. But still, we didn't want to come back and have anyone question what we did um so with big army they did keep track of those things whether it was from air or was it was from our sniper rifles or was from uh going through essentially uh pushing through buildings in a cqc type format with your m4s and then taking that high ground um so we were very careful about that because we didn't want to ever run into someone saying hey so-and-so was in this corner of this building and said they got three no one saw it and then that upset that

there's a shadow over that person for the rest of their time in the military so as uh we were very cognizant of the fact that if if you were going to chalk somebody up for lack of a better term that uh someone else was going to have to see that as well oh okay have you seen any i would imagine you've seen some of these videos coming out. There's one where they're dropping a bomb into an open little tank turret in the Ukraine and they hit it right in there. And I'm thinking, okay, the guys in the tank know there's a drone up there. It could possibly drop. Why don't you close that turret first off? But that's, was that going on back in the day? Were they already that advanced? Because that seems crazy to me that we can do that. Yeah. I haven't seen that exact video that you're talking about, but it doesn't surprise me. If you

look at technology from, let's say, the first Gulf War, when we first saw those videos of smart bombs hitting their targets, and then we have another 10 years to September 11th-ish, and then the technology that just leapt forward with 20 years, essentially, at war in an industry that's now making money and also wanting to support troops on the ground with technological advances, with lessons learned from the battlefield for 20 years being incorporated, not just a flashpoint here or there, and then relying on that flashpoint, let's say like a Mogadishu and taking those lessons and not having that be your only thing to use as a real world example. Now, you get 20 years of everyday, essentially,

engagement to incorporate into technology, to advance technology when we're talking about weapon systems. So that doesn't shock me there. Back in, let's say, 2004, the timeframe I was just talking about, I mean, you're hitting buildings, you can hit cars, you can hit that sort of a thing. But I can only imagine how much better the technology is today. I'm sure it's, yeah, I'm sure it's next level. That's a great point. 20 years of testing it real time on the battlefield, downrange, as you guys like to say. Boston Conner, you have some content.

Yeah, Jack, on that point there, do you think war is changing now because of technology? Like, do you think it is much more, I mean, you just mentioned drones, where it's people in Arizona or Nevada flying drones and kind of fighting wars that way versus how it used to be back in the day even when you were in Iraq? And also, do you think that the idea of the drone dogs with guns on their backs that we've seen on the Internet, stuff like that will be implemented into war as well? I think that war is a, and I hate to say the word game, but it's a constant game of adaptation.

And usually the person coming out on top is the one who adapts faster than the enemy. You're always looking for gaps in the enemy's defenses, looking to capitalize on momentum, looking to exploit new technological advances, knowing that the enemy is going to adapt to those advances, and you're going to have to continue to push that forward. So war is ever-changing in one respect, in that you have to adapt. But in another respect, it does come down to that man on the battlefield with a rifle,

putting a bullet, putting something into another human being. So it comes down to that at its base level. So at that base level, it stays the same. But as you move up and look at technology and incorporate that technology into warfare, then that's an ever-changing environment. So there's two levels to it, I think. Jack, last thing here from Pac-Man has one more question for you. Jack, I was reading the thing about

the Prince's son that just moved here about a lot of things that he's done. Do you think there's any truth into the shit that he's put out? Prince Harry you're talking about, right? Yeah, Prince Harry. I just don't understand how he got all of these and all of that. And like you said, it had to be someone to witness it

and I don't think no one that witnessed his story that was in the story. Yeah. You know, I've tried not to pay too much attention to that. It's very difficult to do obviously. So I am aware of it. But I think, yeah, he talked about, he was a helicopter. Yeah. So I think he talked about it there, but no, you can certainly chalk up some, some people there's not just your helicopter. There's ISR. So like a Reaper drone

or a Predator drone overhead or an AC-130. So there's other video feeds that are showing what you're doing on that battlefield and you are keeping track of enemy combatants down and that sort of a thing. And you really can see it even at night with these ISR platforms.

So I think he put that in the book. Is that what he did? And then he talked about how they were inoculated against it or something along those lines. I don't know. I try not to pay too much attention to that. I wish them well, of course. Maybe they need a new PR person, though.

I'm thinking they need to reevaluate their PR. Yeah. Yeah. But you know what, Jack? You don't need new PR people. You have great PR people. We appreciate you coming on right here. Only the Dead comes But you know what, Jack? You don't need new PR people. You have great PR people. We appreciate you coming on. Right here, Only the Dead comes out May 16th, correct?

That's it. May 16th in e-book, hardcover, and in audio. Oh, man. I know you have some. You're doing some book signings, I believe. Cuyahoga County Public Library, Monday, May 22nd. Johnson County Public Library in Franklin, Indianaiana 7 p.m may 23rd how do you think these fun for you you enjoy these oh they're so much fun so much fun because i get to

thank people that took a risk on me as an author and then told a friend told a family member put it out on their social media to their five followers or their 5 000 or their 5 million whatever it is uh so i get to shake their hands take a picture say thank you because i wouldn't get to do what i love which is writing without them having taken that risk and then telling a friend and really building this grassroots so i absolutely love book tour i try to do it as much as i can on social media but this is where i get to actually shake hands and say thank you in person so it means a ton to me that people come out to these and i'm looking forward to it thank you awesome thank you very much for it not only everything your service everything you've done your books and coming on

this show ladies and gentlemen jack carr kind of cut him i didn't cut him off there if i did or no you sure did my bad sir you better lock your doors tonight i don't want to be downrange anywhere near him i want to be on side on his side though and be down range. How about that recall right there? How his brain works, he's just going. Comes on juiced, excited. You know how hard it is to write one decent book, let alone six really good books?

And then have a TV show made about him. Made about them, I should say. So Terminalist, awesome show. But he doesn't write all the scripts for each episode. No, he's an executive producer. Which is the best. You just click, check, hang out, get to go on set and make sure everything Terminal List. Awesome show. He doesn't write all the scripts for each episode. No. She's an executive producer. Which is the best. You just click check.

Hang out. Get to go on set and make sure everything's legit. He helped train old buddy, right? Chris Pratt. Chris Pratt's movement, his technique, everything looks great. I didn't know Patrick Schwarzenegger's in there. Yeah, he's one of the seals in the very opening scene. When they're down in the sewers. I need to know who Rafe is.

Which one was Rafe in the show? He's not in season one, I don't think. I don't know what he looks like either. I don't know how he's described. So throwing Paul Giamatti out there might have been just kind of a shot in the dark, but I think he can fall off a seal. Giamatti can do anything. Is that Pig Vomit? Paul Giamatti from Howard Stern's

movie? Big Fat Liar with Frankie... Was he in private parts? I don't remember. Who was Pig Vomit? Was that Paul Giamatti from Howard Stern's movie? Big Fat Liar with Frankie. Was he in private parts? I don't remember. Who was pig vomit? Was that Paul Giamatti? Remember how he called a guy pig vomit? His boss, Howard Stern, did it in that movie.

I believe it was Paul Giamatti. I haven't seen private parts in probably 20-something years. Yeah, exactly. I am correct. Zito, let me know in my ear. It was Paul Giamatti. So you know. I know.

Believe me, that guy's in billions, obviously. Carr and his buddies talking about the protocols for how they are counting kills is awesome. Oh, man. Oh, here we go. Yeah. He first garnered attention in his breakout role in Private Park. He was Kenny Pig Vomit Rush. I didn't know that was one of his first roles.

I thought he was already a star by then. I mean, him and... Well, he was a a star by then I mean him and Well he was What was he doing in Saving Private Ryan? He was like He was like a colonel or something Great role Man on the Moon That's Jim Carrey?

Yep Big Mama's House Obviously Martin Morris Fat Liar Banger Which one was that? Where he turns blue Yeah Frankie Munez

Frankie Munez in that? He drives race cars I've seen a few golf events I'm excited. Riggins is getting a spinoff. I forgot about that. Yeah. Taylor Kitsch.

That dude's a special actor. He is good. He's a big hockey guy. He's a Canadian, eh? He's from Canada? I think he's a boat. What part? He might be.

What province? Saskatoon? I was going to say Calgary. Calgary. People do say hair falls like that in Calgary, like Tim Riggins. I'm just waiting for Pac to jump in on the Canadian accent. He loves it. Out.

Out. There it is. Boom. Out. Out. So, okay, what hockey game is on tonight, though, speaking of Canadians? It is – it starts with – yeah, there it is. The Maple Leafs at Florida.

Toronto, for anyone who doesn't know, okay, as a casual fan, it sounds like Toronto, ultra-talented team. Great team, just doesn't get it done in the playoffs. Every single year. This is the first time they've won a playoff series for 17 years, I believe. They're down 3-0. I believe, Nick, you might know this

better than me, I believe they were the favorites to win it all after all the first round games concluded. Yeah, after the first round they became odds-on favorite to win the Cup. People got to be pissed in Toronto. People say they are the cowboys of the NHL. They're always talented. They always have stars. Expect to win the Stanley Cup every year.

Toronto is like another New York City. Toronto is a big old place. Especially in Canada, they get talked about a lot. There's always the hype machine around them. They film a lot of movies in Toronto playing in New York City. It's cheaper, much cheaper to film.

And Boston, too. A lot in Boston now. They don't film in Boston, do they? Oh, they do? So they give them tax breaks? I mean, that's what gets them there to film. Last time I was home, they were filming movies. Pittsburgh gets a lot of movies because of the tax break, too. Smart. Is anything going to be filmed in LA anymore?

Well, that's the thing. Is anything going to need to be filmed? TV shows do, though, because then the stars can live at home and still have a nice schedule. That's where all the sets are. Yeah, but those are building up everywhere. Have you seen Tyler Perry has a whole army barracks he bought up that is like, I don't know how many thousands of acres that has multiple gigantic studios and sound stages zeke or yeah big zeke if you can look it

up you see that yeah he bought the whole south side like that's the area i grew up in around green bra mall he literally bought everything everything except the mall um his house has a runway in the back too it looked like yeah really yes a big boy crib i think it's sitting on like a hundred and some acres i saw when he had that studio opening he has his own studio that has these gigantic like hangar looking buildings that is this that he bought and redid i think this is what he redid yeah i think he redid all this and put huge sound studios in or sound stages because i saw something like opening night he had will smith i think he named him like after actors will smith's son one of the. Pretty slap of what's his name?

Of course. Chris Rock. So that used to be a neighborhood, you're saying? All that used to be the projects. Oh, okay. Knocked them all down. All this area right here used to be the projects. He knocked all that shit down.

Do we have a new one, updated ones of what he made? Based on what they got in Cali. I don't want to put you guys on the spot. But yeah, I mean, Tyler Perry's got some real estate, man. Yeah. They were showing, too, because they were filming there during COVID because they had different houses that were sets. Like, oh, this house was set like a 1950s house.

Back in the day, it's set up. This house is like from the 80s. They had different themes that people would come film in COVID would go down there, and you could create your own little bubble and make your show still. Atlanta also big for filming down there because of the tax breaks. Huge. Atlanta's baby Hollywood right now.

They come to film and they're doing a lot of filming down there. It's either Cali or Atlanta right now. You can get direct flights from anywhere in the world pretty much to Atlanta. Oh, yeah. That helps. That definitely helps. Massive airport. No matter what.

Like California, they're always going to have those. People are always going to use the LA studios and everything. Why isn't Georgia going to the White House? You tell me. Georgia, their football team turned down the invite. I thought they said it was because they're class-goers. There was like a little asterisk at the bottom that said, does not jive well with student-athletes' schedule.

And it didn't say jive, but whatever word they used. It doesn't mesh well with our student-athletes. schedule. And I didn't say jive, but whatever word they use doesn't mesh well with our student-athletes. Do you guys believe that's the full truth? Not feasible, it says. I believe it. Not feasible with a student-athlete's schedule. I agree, it's tough. Believe me, your teachers aren't

going to let you miss class. Mine wouldn't. They got physical Wednesdays down at Georgia's. Bloody Tuesdays. Bloody Tuesdays. Maybe it was on a Tuesday. This has kind of just jumped the shark, too. Like, going to the White House. Who the fuck wants to go to the White House? It's just not what it used to be.

You know, like, it used to be a big deal, and then for whatever reason, whether it's politically driven or not, like, it's just not a big deal anymore. Well, and don't a majority of these guys take almost all, if not most, of their classes in the spring and summer? So their schedules are probably more so packed so that they don't have to, obviously, during football season, they don't have to be doing— They want the lightest load to have in the fall. Exactly, yeah. So wouldn't they take all the difficult classes?

It would be hard to get everyone together. They would all be missing multiple classes, multiple tests, everything. The only time to do it would be if they invited you during camp and you got to skip a day of practice then everyone wants to go. I promise you that. I'm sure the White House is not available at that time. Yeah, and there's some good internet. I mean, I saw some people say, you know, the jerseys aren't the only thing

that's red in Georgia. There are a few of those. You're saying it's a political situation. That's not what I'm saying. Not many things turn that way these days. I'm saying that was some of the internet fodder jokes that turned out to be good. Honestly, Georgia's so good, they're probably like, we're good, man. We're all right. They just want to cost a lot of money.

We'll come back next year. Did they go last year? That's probably the reason, too. Yeah, they probably went. I think they did. So what, everybody on the team has been? Pretty much. Unless you're a true freshman, I guess.

AJ, you've been. Was it cool? Yeah, we went twice. I went with Ohio State and then with Green Bay. And you almost didn true freshman, I guess. AJ, you've been. Was it cool? Yeah, we went twice. I went with Ohio State and then with Green Bay. And you almost didn't go with Green Bay, right? Because you were pissed Obama was in office. Come on now. You said you were.

No, sleep on, Barry. Someone clips that and then it's on me. But that's true. You said you almost weren't allowed at Thanksgiving dinner because you went. First off, this is complete blasphemy. What? First time George Dubs was the president when I went to college. Yeah, and you went in fatigues.

But then we went with Obama. He was like a comedian. He was funny, man. He came out. He had his prompter, and then he had a binder with everything that was on the prompter. It's like a backup. How you doing, AJ? But I was watching because I'm standing right there.

I'm paying attention. It was 800 degrees. We've been standing there a long time. I was very sweaty. And I'm sitting there looking at his teleprompter. It's like a backup. How you doing, AJ? But I was watching because I'm standing right there. I'm paying attention. It was 800 degrees. We've been standing there a long time. I was very sweaty. And I'm sitting there looking at his teleprompter. He went off script the whole time. Like he started it maybe, but he would go, come off script, throw a jab at Aaron. Boom. Throw a jab at the head coach. Throw a jab at somebody. He's a Chicago

guy, so he makes a Bears joke about how they're going to beat us. And I was like, man, this guy's really good. He doesn't care about any of what they gave him. He's doing his own thing. Exactly. He felt like he read the room. He's got great stage presence. Here we go.

Yeah, and you've mentioned, too, how difficult it is to, like, talk in front of football teams because you really do. It's an unbelievable group of people, and if you don't grab them right away, then you're going to lose them quick. So that is actually awesome that he just didn't read the teleprompter at all. Did you do the Forrest Gump thing and drink like 75 dr peppers but i definitely know a couple people that were like man i'm taking a dump in the white house yeah well that's that then trying to steal the like the napkins that have the white house logo i took a dump in the pentagon did you yeah

why really my buddy worked there and we were just walking around near there and what'd your buddy do uh he could tell you but he'd have to kill you. Auditing. No, nothing exciting. Numbers. So you just said, I'm going to dump in here? Yeah, we were just around there. Did you do it as like a thing you meant to do or just kind of come up organic? Just kind of came up organic. And you're like, oh, this is cool.

Taco Bell for lunch and what do you know? Joe Biden know any Georgia player tonight. Yeah. Yeah. Probably knows the whole rock. How much does he watch? Does he watch college football? Joe Biden know any Georgia player name? Yeah. Probably knows the whole rock. Slow down, man. How much does he watch? Does he watch college football?

I don't know. All right, time to move on. What kind of team is this? I don't know how much college football Joe Biden watches. He's a former Blue Hen. He's a big-time supporter of Joe Flacco. Delaware? Joe Flacco.

He watched him when he was running through the 1AA playoffs. I mean, Biden is second all-time in passing. From Delaware? Yeah. Really? We Biden is second all-time in passing. From Delaware? Yeah. Really? We need to get some of his footage up. Yeah, you should see him throw a post. Like a young Fran Tarkin.

There we go. There I am. Look at that. Eyes open wide. Looking good. Who is the – everyone looks like they are not sweating at all. Who is the guy that had to stay on the bus? Oh, man, I feel bad for him.

My linebacker buddy, Desmond Bishop. So, yeah, you had to have he didn't have his id on him he got we're on the bus about to all go in and like beastie bish that's what he called like beastie what's up man you coming he's like oh man he's super dripping sweat couldn't buy his id so he sat in the bus for like five hours nope didn't let him in but it turned out great for him because I think the following year Obama came in to campaign or something, and he got to go meet him one-on-one somewhere and talk to him.

I think he, yeah, they met up. Beastie Bish maybe even like intro'd him at a rally or something. So it worked out for him. Oh, that's sweet. It worked out, but we felt terrible. We're like, man, they got to let you in. What are you talking about? Like, come on now.

No, the White House didn't care. Oh, no way. The White House didn't care. Oh, no way. Playing in the White House. Security. Can't be doing that. Yeah, when we went in college, we went, though, there was like six teams there. There was all the different rooms, and we were all like, we're in this room. Girls volleyball is in that room.

Lacrosse is in that room. All like different national champs were around. And then George Dubs would come in to tell a few jokes to each, and then just be on his way. It was fun. That's wild. So they all do that all on the same day? For that one, the Packers we didn't. No, but for college, like when the LSU...

I don't know if it's like that every year because remember they have all the spread mixed up. They had all the food for them and stuff. We didn't get fed. We had nothing like that. There's no way they fed five teams if that was one. Going to basketball gym and stuff? No, we didn't get to see anything. I wanted to see everything. I didn't see anything. So you just go up there to sit in one room and then they...

Yeah, I don't know what the room would have been where we kind of hung out and waited for a while. And I just bugged the Secret Service guys, asked them a bunch of questions about presents at parties, what do you do, all this. You said you saw all the rooms when you went on your birthday a couple years ago. When was that?

Your birthday's on when? My birthday's January 6th, Tony. I understand what you're trying to get at. I was not part of the insurrection. I had nothing to do with it. Although my birthday is the same day. You said you followed some guy wearing a big moose head and you got to see all the room.

Got to see everything, right? Real up close and personal. Remember Gonzo? We had Gonzo here. Oh, yeah. He said he was in his office and he put his running shoes on because he was ready to take off. Yeah, and he would not have been the slowest. No, he would not have.

He would run circles around that place. Yeah, they didn't let you in the Oval Office when you guys went to the White House? You think they're going to let like 120 college football players in there? No, no, no. When you were at the Packers, I figured they would have maybe like... Honestly, I need to ask Aaron if he got pulled aside for like a special tour. Like if him and

McCarthy got like a special. I would imagine they did. Obama was probably like, hey, bring him in the Oval Office. I want to see him. Come on, bring him on in now. I love it. I always love getting a good burial from Zeke. That'd be awesome if they were allowed to go in there. Some people work in the White House every single day and I bet they don't get to see anything.

No chance. I bet you Trump showed them everything. He also had McDonald's. I love that. Who was there? That was LSU, right? That was LSU, Joe Burrow. And he had all that. He had every fast food possible.

Was there ever food? Have you ever seen food for any other team there? I haven't. What did y'all eat when y'all was there? They weren't even an option. I remember some. I read some of them eating the kids' McDonald's in the White House. Yeah, that was LSU, too.

LSU, they fed them that. Joe Burrow, Chase, and then there's that video of them dancing. I think that happened in First Kid, too. In what? First Kid. First Kid. I could be thinking of Richie Rich. The karate?

Three inches? Richie Rich had a McDonald's in his house with the sniffer. First Kid is where Sinbad is a Secret Service agent and the president's son has a python. It's such a good movie. Unbelievable. Sinbad has serious. Your cousin's in it. ZTB? Yeah. Zachary Todd Bronson? Yes, he is. Such a good movie. Unbelievable movie. Sinbad has serious. Your cousin's in it. ZTB?

Yeah. Zachary Ty Bronson? Yes, he is. Not exactly my cousin, but yeah. Well, you're kind of related to him. In the family. Yeah. At the wedding.

At our wedding. Yeah. Bingo. Yeah, he bullies the first kid, actually. Oh, I need to go back and watch it. Yeah, Sinbad shoots like a huge spitball at him. Ask him at July 4th or Memorial Day when you see him. Why?

I don't know. Ask him about the movie sin bad or ztb sin bad's gonna be your memorial day what was the movie richard pryor was in a movie with a young kid what was that when he kind of raised that young rich kid remember that pack that's our that's our career that's my age demo i think what'd you say about richard gear he said pretty woman i said that's rich Richard Greer. Richard Greer. Yep. That hit that on all fronts. Nailed it.

G-R-E, right? Something? I don't know. I've never seen Pretty Woman. I've seen a couple Zs. Yeah, I've never seen Pretty Woman either. I've seen a couple Zs. Pretty Woman's a banger.

Is it? Yeah. Are you kidding me? What's her name in there? Julia Roberts in her prime. What about Richard Greer? Is he in his prime too? I don't know.

Is that his prime? She was a classy. Primal fear maybe. She was a classy escort, right? Yes. And then she became. They got married. They got married?

I didn't know they got married. Yeah, they just got married. Remember in the office, Dwight Schrute does the pretty woman? Yeah. Yeah, that's where he's from. I never knew they got married though. Yeah, they get married at the end.

I thought he was just like, hey, she was professional. Now she's professional for me. That little fat bowling ball from Seinfeld. Whoa. He tries to get with her at the end. And then gear. I didn't know George Costanza's in that.

He is. He's the bad guy in it. Can I ask you a football question? Please. Not to get off of this. Yeah, I was going to say, are we sure? Whatever you need. I was just looking at the list while we were talking there.

Is it a do less situation that Anthony Richardson and Josh Downs are in the parking lot of their hotel running routes right now? What do you mean? You think it's like a try hard situation that they told us about it or that it happened? Oh. Do you want to play the clip there, Evie? Evie has a clip here.

Let's let everybody judge in real time. Here we go. This is who again? Josh Downs. Josh Downs. Here we go. Anthony Richardson. We actually went outside last night at the hotel. Threw the ball for about 30 minutes. Chopped it up. Just getting to know him more too. I feel like it's going to be a good

few years here. I think we had just finished meeting or something and he texted me. He's like, when we get to the hotel, you want to throw? I'm like, yeah, man. I'm down for it. Threw the ball with him for like 30 minutes. We chopped it up. Got to know him a little bit. But he's a dog.

He's always ready to work. What's your problem, Diggs? My problem is I didn't know that Anthony Richardson always looked this cool. He does look cool. But he's also jocked. They asked Anthony Richardson about it, I think, after they talked to Josh. So it wasn't like he brought up, hey, guys, in case you're wondering, I'm doing extra work. That didn't happen, did it? No.

He was the second one to be asked about it. I am more worried about the fact that a rookie wide receiver says it's going to be a good few years here. Most people say it's going to be a good I want to have a good career at this place. What's he saying? What do you mean? He said it's going to be a good few years. How do you Nick pick

that one? I'm just saying. I'm just saying. As a rookie. As probably his first time talking to the media as an NFL player. Definitely not true. Definitely not true. He's a rookie. But what I'm saying is he said, at what point when you're a rookie,

do you say, I'm looking forward to having a good few years here? Or do you say, I'm looking forward to having a great career with the Indianapolis Colts. That's usually what it says. I'm not nitpicking, but in the past five years paying attention, that's usually what players say. He probably didn't want people to assume. He probably was trying to be humble and be like, hey, I'm not going to claim that we're going to win 30 Super Bowls and that I'm going to be here 15 years. He's probably like, hey, I'm about today.

Yeah, it sounds like he's about the next four years and then he's fucking high-telling. You're nitpicking. I'm just saying. I'm just talking about the words that he said. Where's the hotel? It'd be cool to kind of cruise around and watch these guys slinging the ball a little bit outside the hotel.

Tony implied that Josh Downs was running routes in the parking lot, which is what I assumed they were doing. It sounds like these guys just got were just bored and didn't want to sit in their hotel rooms and just huck the pigskin around. You want to go play some corner? No, I don't want to play no corner but

to the young guys, y'all stay y'all ass out the parking lot because if you get hurt, they're not going to pay you. If you do get hurt, limp into the facility and say you got hurt in the facility. So they just have all the rookies at a hotel door. Can you imagine that?

Them running routes in the parking lot and the fucking cars coming by. Happened to Jimmy Graham. You do three flips. But he did catch the ball, but he is dead. Uh-oh. He can't help it this year. He went out doing his job, though. Great catch.

Because your muscles lock up when you die? Maybe. Rigor mortis. Well, no, you can't. Why are you going to blame a dead guy? He just made the catch. Not rigor mortis. No, I'm saying how.

You're trying to say rigor mortis was a crutch. No, he just caught it, and then he died. Okay, whatever. And he kept hold of it after death. And all people talk about is that no matter what happened, he'd catch that ball. He caught that ball. Can you imagine the eulogy? Oh, my God.

Just like that. It'd be sweet. Yeah, just like that. When I die, we guys bury me with a football in my hand. Oh, wait. Here we go. This is what they're doing. Boom!

Right in the back window. He broke that. Hey, buddy. Hey, buddy. Can you run that back real quick? I just want to see his face first. Shattered it. Did he catch it?

Boom! Did he catch the ball? Yeah. Oh, he caught it. Oh, he got the ball. He got his right hand. See? Is that the best catch of all time? If! Did he catch the ball? Yeah. Oh, he got it. Oh, he got his right hand. Is that the best catch of all time? If Josh Downs does that, for real.

Give that guy a lifetime. That dude jammed him off the line and was on his hip. That was a good D. It was also a great break on the route to get to the sideline. Yeah. No, that was him. Perfect ball. The guy in the orange, he's got to undercut that a little bit. Go right underneath him. He's going to pick here. Slide there. Slide right underneath.

He's got a little bit of jersey there, though. Great ball. Good ball. Just a great ball. You know how hard a car back window is? Yeah. It's hard to break with a baseball bat. That guy has a concussion. By far.

Best case scenario, he just has a concussion. Best case scenario. Nah. Whole face cut up and everything. His face might be. Seven stitches. Broke a few ribs probably. His face might be broken in half.

Completely broke. Wait, so, okay. G here, Conman. I need to ask you. Hendon Hooker, what is MCDC saying about Hendon Hooker? He took him to third round, correct? Yeah, yeah. And he quoted as saying he's not going to play for a long time, right?

Yeah, it's a long quote from, I believe, the Green Light pod. Redshirt year for him, he says. He's got to get this leg right first, and then he'll learn under Jared Goff, and then let's see what happens. If he can eventually become your two or maybe down the road later on, it's more than that, but it's going to be a long time. Yeah, he means it's more than that. It's more than him being

a starter. And I think also he is pumping up his starter in Jared Goff and saying, hey, we didn't draft this guy to replace Jared Go he is pumping up his starter in Jared Goff and saying, hey, we didn't draft this guy to replace Jared Goff right now. Yeah, and Jared Goff was unbelievable last year in comparison to what people thought that he was going to turn into after the Rams. There is no reason for there even to be a quarterback competition

because of the success they had. But, I mean, it's foolish to think that after this contract with Jared Goff that they won't give Hendon Hooker, who's going to be on a rookie contract for four years, an opportunity, you know, especially with how accurate he was and what people thought he was going to be a first-round pick going into the draft. And maybe that was just all bullshit, but if he comes out and he's just slinging that pill, who knows? Jared Goff gets hurt maybe too.

I don't know. I think Hooker is for the future for them. There's no reason for Detroit to rush in and put put them in there they finished pretty strong last year also but um this guy is a project he coming off a torn acl why rush them out there it don't make sense yeah and he's 25 he was impressive at the we talked to him at the super bowl yeah oh yeah baked beans made that fucking bushes baked beans can look like a thimble. That's right. He was pumping the baked beans.

But he seemed very mature, seemed to love football. I was like, man, you don't sound like a college kid. He's moving around good, too. It didn't look like he had any hitch or anything like that. November, though. It's not that long ago for ACL. Yeah. And talk about a perfect place for a quarterback.

That offensive line's absurd. Yeah. They just got Jameer Gibbs, who's ridiculous. Their defense. He can hang out for two years. Yeah, exactly. Perfect situation, really. The real question will be if we extend Jared Goff, which there's rumors saying that a bunch of talks are happening with that.

And they're saying that it's going to be a lot of money. Really? Yeah, like $40,000, $45,000. They're going to have to have an out after two or three years max, though. They're also probably going to have a new offensive coordinator next year. Exactly. They said if they do well again this year, then Ben Johnson is definitely going to get a head coaching job.

Yep. Or an MCDC can call plays. I wouldn't worry about that. Yeah, he can call plays, right? True. He did, yeah. He almost had the play call control last year, but he allowed Ben Johnson to do it, and Ben Johnson essentially won the job.

Because he's a great head coach. Yeah, smart head coach. Exactly. Will Levis is at Topgolf. Right now? Also, Ed, who's down at the Derby with me, he has Will Levis. Oh, right. Who is Ed? Ed is... He works for CAA. He's like an agent slash

marketing. Is he Aaron's agent? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, he's Ed. So he had... He was with Will Levis. He was getting TV time. I mean... Is this what he did when he played with... Who did he he was with Will Levin. He was getting TV time. Mm-hmm. I mean. Is this what he did when he played with, who did he play golf with? Steichen. Was he the one who told Will to go to the draft?

I don't know how much pull Ed had over any of that. Okay. Because he had Bryce Young as well. So Ed was going to be there no matter what. But, yeah. Swing very hard there. Yeah. What's wrong with that? Did Ed say anything about how it was to sit in a room with him? Oh, yeah. Swing very hard there. Yeah. What's wrong with that? Did Ed say anything about how it was to sit in a room with him?

Oh, yeah. He said the dude is a grinder. Works harder than anybody. Said he's awesome. He drinks milk every day? Yeah. He might. He might be drinking milk.

How old is he? 23. He's jacked? Properly jacked. Do you have an issue with that? Him being that jacked? No. I do.

Yeah? Yeah. We're quarterbacks. Like, if you're not a running quarterback, I want my quarterback to be— Miniature dad bods. Yeah, I want you to have a beer—not a beer belly, but I don't need you to come in there trying to have a lot of— You don't need to have a ton of, like, excess muscle tone. I bet you Anthony Richardson's properly jocked.

He is properly jocked. Won't that happen eventually, though? Like, he's in the best shape of his life right now as he goes through his first NFL season and starts to get more comfortable in a new city and stuff. He's not going to have an eight-pack and be properly jocked forever.

Yeah, because Anthony Rich, at least he's a running quarterback. We'll let you guys point about the bodies. Rogers and Brady, Big Ben, it's not as if they're yoked up. Big Ben lost a bunch of weight after that motorcycle wreck. He was a different looking human, I feel like. At Luke Combs, he's lost a lot of weight, it feels like, since he's retired.

Oh, yeah. He is in prime shape. I think he might have an eight-pack, Ben. Oh. You guys listen to football? Yeah. Bill Power was on this week with football. Bill Carr.

Bill Carr. Bill Carr. How'd it go? Great conversation. So who's Ben's co-host? That's a great show. I know he's talked about having Pat on. Pat should absolutely be on.

That would be a very fun episode. Pat's a little busy right now, AJ. Yeah, I know that. I know that call, man. I was saying eventually. Of course, of course. When he can. I bet Big Ben would come here.

I think he would. That'd be awesome. So is Ben in Pittsburgh for good now? Yeah. That's one of those teams where it's like, if you play for the Steelers and you do anything, you have any kind of success, you can have a nice life living there the rest of your He stayed there. I think a lot of like Kiesel stayed there.

Look at James Harrison's arms. Yeah, dude. Are we serious? Casey Hampton looks good. He does. Wait, what is this from? Joey Porter looks good. That's from James Harrison's Instagram. Is that Mikey

Dogs? In the front, that's where Paul Maul is. We're cutting trees down. Why do we have chainsaws? What are we doing? This is awesome. Just playing around. Is Ben on a ranch? Just dudes being dudes. Joey Porter Sr.? Yeah, just light ranching. Just light ranching. Some light ranching. Man. Big Ben looks good. He does look good. I mean,

where is this? He might play next year. You think? What team? This is either at Ben's or I believe that's Kiesel's ranch probably. Kiesel. Is that Kiesel in the middle? Yeah. Who are the rest of them? Who's everybody else?

Yeah, who's top left? Casey Hampton. Casey Hampton is great. James Harrison Sr. That's Troy. Yep. I don't know if that's Aaron Smith. That's Aaron Smith.

What about top left? Top left? Is that Ben's co-host maybe? No, that's not Spence. That might be Sean Morey. I don't know if that's Aaron Smith. That's Aaron Smith. What about top left? Top left? Is that Ben's co-host, maybe? No, that's not Spence. That might be Sean Morey. I don't know. Maybe. Oh, really?

Top left, I'm not exactly 100%. Okay. Could be Sean Morey, who was special team stud. Not the other kicker. Who's the other kicker? Sean Morey was not a kicker. Spikey here, I know. Jeff Reed.

Jeff Reed, I'm thinking. Why isn't he here? Beast. I don't know. He had stuff to do. Did he? Yeah. They must have been just chopping trees down, just dudes being dudes.

I mean, is that a chainsaw, James Harris? Yeah, they both look. Oh, yeah. There's two chainsaws in that picture, and Troy's putting antlers on his head. Troy looks very happy. They're just having fun. Yeah, just Steelers being Steelers. Just guys being dudes.

Just guys being dudes having fun at, you know, Kiesel's getaway resort. His cabin. There's some guys in the NFL. Pack, have you ever done that? You ever go hunting? I'm not a big hunter. Me either, but I know there's guys that have a big like the high fence farms where they have the fence and it's thousands of acres and, you know, you shoot an

albino buck and it costs $125,000. There's stuff like that people do. It's like a big deal. Record-breaking ranch, record-setting ranch. Who? Vinatieri. That's Vinatieri's ranch. Oh000. There's stuff like that. It's a big deal. Record-breaking ranch, record-setting ranch. Oh, he has a ranch like that? My brother-in-law shot a big old elk at one of those ranches from some alignment he played with back in the day.

I had the elk in my basement for years because it was too big to fit in his house. He lived in Florida and didn't have enough wall space and now someone has it. It's about the size of that thing probably. The buffalo? It's gigantic. About brothers and hunting and stuff like that sure huh if you're like with a group of guys going to the derby i love the pace of your questions tone the pacing and like the the just the pacing of your tempo and like the tempo is awesome how do you keep me intrigued i really am how do you get your brothers To be involved in that group

But no other brothers Are involved in that group So what do you You know what he means You know what he's getting at How do I get How do you not get the brothers To go hunt

The brothers My brother You're talking about my brother-in-law Brady Quinn I just saw a lot of Takatari's At the derby And no hunts Besides yourself

Yes Oh why are my brothers Not at the derby Yeah But Takatari's are. Oh, Takatari's are. They are a tight clan that is always together. They all live in Nashville now together.

So like parents, they have a sister too. The youngest, Andrew, has a twin sister. She used to dip. She doesn't anymore. I don't know if I'm, I hope she's okay with that, but she's married. Her husband's the man. She's great.

She's not pissed. She was very open about it. It's sitting's working. It's awesome. Sandy. I'm trying to think Oh well yeah like My brother Ryan My oldest brother

He's met Aaron Been around him But like We don't like We're not always around They have families They have kids They have everything going on

I just didn't know But yeah like My brother Ryan Knows Aaron very well But he's not gonna Come to the Derby He comes to Tahoe Yeah

Caddies Yeah Great caddy Instagram was leaked though AJ was in all of the Instagram. It was. Some of them. Did you repost any of them? I did, I think. Yeah, you reposted the watch Flames, I thought.

Yeah. No, I didn't repost that. How come? Did you wear that today? What? Oh, the watch? No, it's back at home. I might bring it tomorrow. Can you? I might bring one tomorrow. People liked most of all like, so it's a nice normal watch or whatever, but then there's a little area where you got to put more butane in when it runs out.

And that thing, it's a watch. It doesn't hold much butane. So, you know, one or two party trick lights. Here we go. Look at this. I actually would use it to light my cigar. I'd have to keep refilling it. And I was spraying butane directly in my face.

That's what people were wanting because you have to jam it in. If you don't get it just right, you don't get the old nipple directly into the receiver. It's spraying everywhere, all over me. So everyone's just waiting for me to light myself on fire. Is it weird not smoking a cigar here in studio today? I might bring some tomorrow. Hell yeah.

You guys think cigar smoke gets stuck to the walls and stuff. Well, it does, but I like cigar smoke, but yeah, you can't smoke it. What about a pipe? I have this cherry Cavendish tobacco. That smells delicious. It smells amazing. I can smoke it throughout my house. Call Pat and ask. I will. I'll send him a text. Why don't you just get some American Spirits

and fucking smoke them outside on the brakes like a real man? And I'll be... I will. I'll stand right there with you. Will you? Absolutely. You're not smoking cigs anymore, are you? Not at the moment. Come on. What does that mean? It means you never say never. Not in this exact moment. Not exactly.

But maybe in three or four minutes. Can you bring it back from the summer? Can you bring it back? I haven't smoked a pack of cigarettes in a while. Come on. When's the hardest time to not smoke then? When a new season of Peaky Blinders comes out. Oh. Or anytime I rewatch True Detective.

Do you smoke cigs indoors? In your place? No, no. I would never do that. Okay. But my favorite cigarette is the cigarette inside. Oh, is it? Yeah.

Like when the Patriots won the Super Bowl in Atlanta, we went to a bar specifically that you were allowed to smoke cigarettes inside of. It was one of the highlights of my life. You can smoke in Vegas still, right? Yeah. Certain sections, yeah. Certain places. Only in certain sections?

In casinos, you mean? Yeah. Yeah, they have sliding glass doors blocked off are there any bars left where you can smoke cigs oh yeah yeah absolutely really like in the whole bar you don't serve food i know yeah they do not serve food i mean i know like but i'm from the area where every time you go out in college you can't wear your stuff you got to make sure you wash everything because you smell like a remember a pack of cigarettes every time you go anywhere in college, you got to make sure you wash everything because you smell like a whole pack of cigarettes every time you go anywhere. You remember smoking sections back in the day?

It was like a little wall. There were smoking sections in airplanes back in the day. Like in the 70s, I think. Even into the 80s, I believe. Yeah, thanks a lot, Bin Laden. Did he take that away? I don't know. Is that from Ted Loss?

Is that from Ted the movie? Whatever it is.? Oh, I don't know. That's actually from, is that from Ted Laws? Is that from Ted, the movie? Whatever it is. It works, I guess. I forget what that's from. Oh, it's from The Hangover. It is from The Hangover. It's from Galifianakis. I think it's when Galifianakis was with Robert Downey Jr. in that movie.

Oh, due date. Oh, due date. It's due date. It's a Galifianakis line. I stole it. It's pretty good. But yeah, think about it. Hey, make sure you get me in the back of the smoking section on my flight to California,

my five-hour flight, because that smoke's not going to travel up to the front. I mean, they have them in airports still. Oh, the glass cages? Yeah. Yeah, I walk by them. When I went to Montana and Denver, I had to sleep overnight in the Denver airport, and I was smoking darts till midnight, till they closed it, actually. Really?

Yeah. Oh, well, can you smoke anything in there, or just cigarettes? I don't know. I assume you can smoke weed. No. What do you think, Pat? Yeah, because they have it, actually. Really? Yeah. Oh, well, can you smoke anything in there or just cigarettes? I don't know. I assume you can smoke weed. No. What do you think, Pat? Yeah, because they have vents in there. It's like the vent you have in your attic.

Maybe if it's a legal state, if it's a recreational legal state. That's what I mean. Yeah, strictly Denver. Vegas. Can't bring weed into an airport. Yeah. Well, they say that, but obviously people have weed in airports. Sure.

I don't think so. Oh, you're right. It's pretty loud if you find up a joint in the middle have weed in airports. I don't think so. Oh, you're right. It's pretty loud if you find up a joint in the middle of there. Yeah, I don't know. And not every airport, most airports don't have, like, Massachusetts legal state for weed. They don't have a smoking section in the airport. Yeah, I mean, the glass cage, I'm glad I never smoked cigs

because that'd be tough to, like, you feel like every flight you ever went on, are you just calm in? You could tell me, back when you were really going. Yeah. Was it tough to take a flight or to like, you feel like every flight you ever went on, are you just calm? And you could tell me back when you were really going. Yeah. Was it tough to take a flight or to think, hey, I got to think out where I'm planning out when I'm going to smoke my cigs? So it depends. Like, it's not, I always had a massive fear of flying. So in general, I didn't like doing it.

So the cigarette was almost something that you look forward to instead of worrying about crashing and dying in a plane. Got it. But no, it's not something where it's like, I need to get off this fucking plane right now and smoke a cigarette. No, it's never anything like that. A lot of people are like that. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. My mom is like that.

Yeah. We'd go to the gas station. She'd jump out of the car. Like, bro, we are three minutes from the fucking house. You just wait till we get to the house. Get back in the car to fucking hold Carson Bell. I got to roll the windows down. We go a mile up the street.

Yeah, I never had it like that where I needed. I mean, it's just fucking awesome. That's it. You just like it. You just enjoy it. Yeah. Well, I mean, my grandfather smoked till he was like 75. It's just in my blood.

You know you love it after a night of drinking. That's why I've heard some people like they was like 75. It's just in my blood. You don't even love it after a night of drinking. That's why I've heard some people, like, they sound like poets. A couple of coaches that I've – different coaches, different positions, they would talk about, oh, man, you go out, you come back, like, on your way home or, like, say you're hanging out at the very end of the night, like, you have one or two cigs. It's just the greatest. They would explain it to me like they thought you were doing ecstasy.

It is. There are some euphoric moments with cigs. Really? There's no doubt about it. I don some euphoric moments with cigs. Really? No doubt about it. I don't know. But you smoke cigs, Pat? No, I never had. Never would have.

When did you start dipping? College. Yeah, West Virginia. I'm sure you got me stuck on this shit. What about the first time you tried? How'd it go? Threw up everywhere. Got a little dizzy.

But that's the thing. I've never done it. But then it brought you back. Yeah. That's why I wonder how you came back after that. Yeah, I could never do that. i did it to stay up in meetings i would fall asleep in all of the meetings in college my coach made me sit beside his desk like put this fucking dip in you won't fall asleep and shit i ain't fall asleep since i put the dip in but i've grown up two three times

from putting this shit in but as far as getting fine for the meetings going to sleep it worked out pretty good. Yeah. Did you play with it in? I've played with it. A lot of people play. AP. When I got to Ohio State, they talked about the old school,

the real guys that would play with a dip in. Yeah, I work out with a dip. Run a couple miles with a dip. You know, hit a bag with a dip. I think Edelman. Golf ball with a dip. Yeah. I think Edelman's played with it before.

I mean, he's been on the sideline packing dips, no doubt about it. Yeah, guys might zen now during games. That makes sense. That's much easier to hide. Yeah. Easier to hide, but does it give you what you need, though? Have you ever zenned? No, I've never zenned.

No, it's much different. It's just nicotine? Yeah. So it gives you that whatever, the addiction thing, but it doesn't give you probably the taste and the feel of it. No, no way. But it's little pouches. Yes, exactly. I'm not dipping. No, no way. But it's little pouches. Yes, exactly.

I'm not dipping. No chance. I don't need to dip. I don't want to start ever. It seems like it's too easy to do where I could just dip all day long. Yeah, you could do it at any time. I'll start. Believe me, it seems... You got your cigars. I got your cigars. You have your vice. I have tobacco

covered. You're right. I'm going to put some in your vice. Yeah, I have tobacco covered. You're right. You're right. I'm going to put some in your car for the ride home so you don't fall asleep. That might help me. If it helped me stay up, that'd be good. It's great for a road trip. Yeah, you can pack coffee beans. Egg. Coffee.

Coffee grounds, yeah. They used to have beef jerky that was ground up when I was a kid. People would try that. You too. And candy cigarettes. Hot sauce on your eyes. Oh, yeah. There we go.

That also helps. You definitely wreck your fucking car. And I'm driving too, right, Z? Don't think about it. That will on your eyes. Oh, yeah. There we go. That also helps. In my driving. Definitely Ricky fucking Carr. And I'm driving too, right? That will keep me awake. Oh, yeah. When in doubt. Or you can do Carson Palmer's balm.

Yeah. Have you ever beezed? Kate was TBD. Have I what? Have you ever beezed before? I don't know what that is. You know, Burt's Bees? Oh, yeah.

Put that on your eyes. Burt's Bees chapstick. Yeah, if you do it under your eyes. That'll keep you up. Why would you do it? Oh, to like burn? No, it doesn't really burn. No, it doesn't really burn. eyes. I'll keep you up. Why would you do it? Oh, to like burn? No, it doesn't really burn. No, it doesn't really burn.

It just kind of wakes you up. I'll let you know in about 30 minutes. Woo! I'll keep you in your fucking eyes. Perfect. Hell yeah, brother. Anyone know who we have coming on the show tomorrow? I know we have a lot of good guests.

We don't want to give it away. Great guests. We won't give it away, but you guys are excited, right? Massive show. Yeah, it's a huge show. Massive. Huge. Thursday.

Yeah, fucking massive. May 11th it'll be. Man, it is May 10th. Kids are almost out of school. Yeah, it's crazy. show. Massive. Huge. Thursday. Yeah, fucking massive. May 11th it'll be. Man, it is May 10th. Kids are almost out of school. Yeah, it's crazy. Summer is upon us. Memorial Day, two weeks away. Is it finally going to get hot and stay hot?

I think so. Yeah, I think we're into it. Are we out of it? I think so. We're out of the cold. Last week. When we get out of school. My kids, when they get out of school, they are very excited to have fun at our house

around me and my wife and their brothers and sisters. That's nice. That's nice. Yours too, right, Pat? Isn't it cool? You guys sound so happy about it. You put a little time in with them. They've been in school.

Yeah. You got some day camps. They need a break. Yeah, make it like, hey, we want to go to Ohio State basketball camp for a couple days. Exactly. But you'll be home by 3. Yeah. You're not going to be.

You have all their camps lined up, right? See you August 20th. For all your kids? For both of you guys? Yeah, we have to. The stuff, their camps lined up ready? See you August 20th. For all your kids? For both of you guys? We have to. The camps my kids are doing. You have to do it months in advance. Are they doing lacrosse camps? I think my oldest son's going to do one.

My daughter goes to Ohio State basketball camp. Last year, they're coached by all the girls on the team. Their stud girl on their team is from Dublin, Ohio. Went to Dublin to call from where we live, and she's their best player. And she coached my daughter. Like, they just randomly got to coach her. That's sweet. For my 12-year-old daughter, it's like Michael Jordan's coaching her.

Yeah. It's awesome. Oh, yeah. That's how the whole camp is, too. So, I watch them play on TV. She's like, oh, there she is. Those college camps are awesome. Like, when they have the players do everything because, you know,

the players, they get paid for that, right? Oh, yeah, they're allowed to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you work camps in college and get paid? I've never worked a camp in college, AJ. I worked Vrabel's camp. Before the camps. Now the coaches rely on that for part of their money.

When they have these kids' camps coming, they have like two weeks of camps at Ohio State. I know that's how the assistants get like huge bonuses. Did you go to the Bo Schembechler? They were. Schembechacher, Woody Hayes camp? Not the Bo Schoenbacher. But his son actually lives in Columbus. I run into him sometimes.

No kidding. I thought Bo and Woody did a camp together. Well, they both are deceased, in case you're wondering. No, no, I'm saying when you were young. Oh, when I was young? No, I never went to Ohio. I went to Ohio State camp one time going into my senior year to try to earn a scholarship.

And you did. You got it. Stay in dorms. I went to Ohio State camp one time going into my senior year to try to earn a scholarship. And you did. You got it. Stay in dorms. I went to a Walt Harris football camp. It was good. I think my brother was getting recruited by Pitt. I was around Pitt a lot. Walt Harris was great. Is he still around? He was coached. I don't even know who that is. He coached Pitt back in the day. He was a great coach. We'll talk about him more tomorrow.

All right, Don? Keep that in mind. Packman, you'll be back tomorrow, right? Yes, sir. Can't wait. I'll be here tomorrow as well. Everyone else, thank you, boys. Everyone behind the glass. I didn't get to mention everybody. I always forget somebody.

Bruce, I know I forgot your name, I think, last time when I was hosting from the attic. Don't worry. I'm sorry, Bruce. I forgot about you. It's because your golf swing is so sweet every once in a while. I blank on it when I'm trying to get your name. I do want to see Bruce play golf again because the swing I saw earlier

was acid on. We'll bring your club tomorrow. It was ridiculous. We'll hit the sim for a minute. I could just use those. I don't need mine. Oh, okay, perfect. Like if I'm traveling, I don't need to travel with my club.

Yeah, if you leave a half hour early. I'll try. Yeah, we'll get time. If you cancel my kids' school, I could leave a half hour early. Just call them in sick. Just cancel. Call them in sick, yeah. Yeah, maybe I will.

They'd be happy for that Thursday give him a long weekend Thursday Friday Maybe I will No no no Just cancel him Cancel school Or send him to their grandmother's house

We'll see what we can do Either way I'll be back tomorrow Appreciate you guys Bill thank you Great Jack Carr question, appreciate you guys. Everyone behind the glass. Bill, thank you. Great Jack Carr question as well. Keep us up on that. We know you guys probably talked offline about different kills and different ways you go about doing what you do.

The art that you like to participate in. Everybody else, stay there. Tomorrow, we'll be back. Huge show. Huge guest. Cannot wait. Come on back tomorrow. See ya.