The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 902 - Ross Chastain, Jimmy Graham, Pacman Jones & AJ Hawk LIVE In The ThunderDome

Episode Date: May 11, 2023

On today’s show, AJ Hawk, Pacman Jones, and the boys fill in for Pat while he is on paternity. They chat about the NFL schedule release and the handful of games that have already been released, which ones we're looking forward to, and they also dive into the projected over/unders of all the teams this year. Joining the progrum fresh off a right hand heard round the world, a 2x winner with 36 top tens, Ross Chastain joins the show to chat about always wanting to be a Nascar driver, being a ninth generation watermelon farmer, if he's gotten any blowback for socking Noah Gragson in the face, and much more (19:57-48:26). Later, 2x All-Pro, 5x All-Pro, one of the greatest TE's to ever play in the NFL, Jimmy Graham joins the show to chat about being an accomplished pilot, sailing around the world which he is preparing to do right now, his career in the league and if he thinks he'll be in the Hall of Fame, and being possibly the most interesting man in the world (58:31-1:26:27). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Yeah! Shut the fuck up! Here we go, Thursday, May 11th. I'm AJ Hawks, sitting in for the Pat McAfee. And you guys just saw him on screen if you tuned in 20 seconds ago. Sports! Is what we talk about here on this program. Thank you, everybody, for tuning in.

Obviously, Pat jumped here on the screen for a little bit. You guys got to see him. Who knows, maybe he will be back later in this program. I don't know. We have some amazing guests. Guys, at 1220, Con con man can you believe this we have ross chastain i can't tell the people what he did why has he been uh he kind of jumped out under the headlines these last couple weeks well aside from being a superstar racer i mean you don't just get the number one car in the entire track you don't just get that number okay I don't hand it out to you, Jay. But also, he happened to land

a mean right hook on Noah Gregson this weekend when Noah was asking for it. Watch this right hand. This is so clean. He said, I don't want to do this. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop.

See ya. First off, Noah's got a very, very, very punchable face and haircut He does Kind of looks like Cal from Titanic Oh, what's that guy? Billy Zane? I think it's Cal

His career was hard to rebound after that Because he played such a great character In that guy He was a zombie in The Mummy, right? There you go Pac-Man, you seen Titanic? Pac-Man Jones? No, I haven't seen Titanic. You know what it is, though?

Pac-Man. Watch Titanic. Leo DiCaprio. You know him, right? Yeah, he's a stud. He's a painter in it. Is he a painter? Artist, excuse me. So what is he, sculpt, too? Yeah, well, remember he paints that lady when she's butt naked in their room.

Paint me like one of your French kids. T hey tone digs what is the nfl whole situation going remember yesterday we said the whole schedule would be out by now we know it's not but we've had tons and tons of games i know we have a slide somewhere a lot of the notable games that have been leaked the problem is we have to keep updating this like it's some like uh like it's the when people are voting we have a polling system you have to try to figure out which state has what. We should get Kazansky on. We probably should. Yeah, we should.

Maybe we will. But what's your okay tone right here? It's Kornacki. Kornacki. Steve. I know his name. Why would you say that? I just saw him on horse coverage this weekend.

He's awesome. On horse coverage. Yeah. Is that what he calls it? I also do horse coverage. He does everything. Now, anything with stats, he does now. Yeah.

Football playoff odds, he does. Horse racing odds. You know a game I like though, Diggs? I'm going to tell you right now. The first Monday night football game of the year, right? Isn't it the Bills traveling to New York to take on the Jets? I don't like that one. Week one, Monday night football. Oh, that's actually pretty cool.

In New York. The Vision Gang. That's one of my favorites. What do you like on here, Diggs? Lions at KC. Let's go! Okay, Pac-Man, are you a bit surprised by that, that the Detroit Lions are traveling to kick off the NFL season for us on Thursday night football against the Chiefs? I'm not too surprised since the Lions

had a good little run there. They're going to come up for the Lions, right? Oh, yeah. You know, they've been so dead for so long. This is good for them. I mean, we haven't been talking about the Lions since when? Megatron? Barry Sanders? Exactly.

Boys, zero primetime games last year on the schedule. All 1 o'clock games last year, not even a 4 o'clock. This team fucking stunk in everyone's eyes. And now we're kicking off the NFL against the Super Bowl champions. Probably one of the coolest moments, honestly, as a Lions fan. And that's not saying much, but this is huge. Y'all are going to get beat by 20. No, no, no, no, no.

Easy back there. Easy. If you want to play the Chiefs, it's, you know, weeks one to four. This is probably the time. The great thing, though, is no matter what happens in that game, it means nothing for the grand scheme of the whole season. Unless it comes down to, you know, one won win or lost i guess i mean yeah technically you could say that for every single play every single game you're right my bad my bad time i had a question okay because you guys talked about you only you looked at the

bi-weeks uh you looked when you were going to colder locations and stuff like that as far as the schedule. But I think as fans, I think we do look to see how the first four or five games are because if you come out the gate and you're 1-4 and you have a mentally weak team, the season's already over before the middle of Halloween. But say a team didn't finish well last year, but they kept their coach around and a lot of the players are back. Like, is it important for them to have maybe an easier schedule to start the year so they don't give up already on the new season?

Let me tell you something. Nothing is fucking easy in the NFL. Well, I know that. Like, you can't. We don't look at the schedule and go, oh, yeah, this is going to be an easy-ass game, especially at the beginning of the season. What about if you're playing the AFC South? It's going to be an easy-ass game, especially at the beginning of the season.

What about if it's AFC? What if you're playing the AFC South? Well, as a reporter, that is the easy-ass division. I'm not playing anymore. But, like, when you're looking at these games, I'm thinking about Kansas City opening up. That's what I'm saying. I think this is going to be a blowout because guess what? They're going to roll down the banner.

Everybody going to be playing with so much high intensity. Come on. I don't know. I really don't. I'm just saying, Foxy, them boys everybody going to be playing with so much high intensity. Come on. I don't know. I really don't. I'm just saying, Foxy, them boys are going to be. That's going to be a tough environment to walk into for Detroit. It's not an easy environment. Last year, the Rams got stomped.

Imagine MCDC in that tunnel, so fucking amped up to kick off the NFL season. He's going to be bloodied before he runs out for the opening kickoff. He's going to be headbutting the sidewalls. But the problem is, not the problem, but the first four to five games of the year, we don't really know what team is what. We don't have your identity yet. So a team that we think is terrible may be great for the first three to four weeks. Exactly.

And the Lions, they started last year 1-6, and then they finished 8-2. It doesn't really matter for them where they start. Same with KC. KC didn't get off to the greatest start last year or the year before that, but with the Lions, they're missing Jameson Williams, who's probably their best receiver, Foxy, you could argue.

Amon Ra. Amon Ra. Amon Ra, St. Brown. That's a great point. They're missing him. I do think there's got to be some sort of not Super Bowl hangover, but they also know, hey, our season kind of starts in December. That's why it should be good for

them, though, because this game's got all this extra added juice to it. The chunk of the middle of the season for the Chiefs has got to be tough because they know it doesn't matter until we get December, January, February. But this first game, everyone's excited. Oh, absolutely. Both top five offenses.

So it could be like 45-42, a huge game like that. It would be a great way to kick off the season. Now looking at it, though, that week 17, Bengals at KC could be for a very, very high season playoffs. Could be a lot on the line there. I like that game is later in the season. That's going to be a real good game right there because everybody's going to know what everybody's doing.

I saw Florio say that the NFL hates London. Why? Because he says they give them bad games? Well, he said that they gave Frankfurt the prime game, which maybe... Dolphins-Chiefs? No, Colts-Pats. That too. Maybe leans to say that they see a bigger

future in Germany than they do England. That's interesting. We're still acting like the Jags fucking stink, but like the Jags and the Bills both went to the playoffs last year. Like, that's a great game. That is a great game. You're right. It doesn't.

Yeah. When you look at it, maybe not thinking, but it is. Now it is. Both these teams where they are. It is a great game. You got to change your mindset when you see the Jags logo, because I do still. You're right. I'm not there yet, and I should be.

You sold? They're unbelievable. Absolutely. They're unbelievable. They're in the worst division. They're going to the playoffs. But when you look at the logo, you always keep thinking Clontown. You think about Fingerguns, you think about how shitty they've been for so long, but it's a new era in Jacksonville.

And then all of a sudden you bring in Calvin Ridley. That'll be sweet. But in that division, I am pumped, and I don't think it's come out yet. I am pumped to see what C.J. Stroud and the Texans are going to be like, and I'm pumped to see what Carolina's going to be like. I think it's going to be very entertaining to watch Bryce Young, especially because it's not just him over there. They've got Adam Thielen over there, Hayden Hurst, Miles Sanders.

With that defense. Defense kind of has stayed the same, and that was their strong point of the season last year. Will Anderson in Houston as well. I think those rookie quarterback teams are going to be interesting to watch. Ravens-Tennessee week 6 in London.

How is that game? What is Tennessee? Is Tannehill the quarterback? He is. He's the guy now. We all love Rabel. He's one of your close friends. I mean, I know. For this year. We all love Vrabel. He's one of your close friends. Where are you going with this? I just don't.

I hope they're better than everyone thinks they're going to be. I do, too. You don't think Vrabel knows his situation? Yeah. I'm sure he does. Vrabel's kind of like Tomlin. Like, you know they're going to get at least seven wins. Probably.

He knows where he's at. They'll be competitive. Like, I don't think. They're not the kind of team that really ever gets like, we're not going to see them getting blown out week in and week out. I think them losing A.J. Brown as much as Derrick Henry is the straw that

serves the drink, losing A.J. Brown, now teams can just put nine guys in the box and it's like, who's Tannehill going to fucking throw to? They used to just play action people to death because they'd load up the box and then A.J. Brown would have four catches for 150 yards and two touchdowns. They can't do that anymore.

I mean, who does he have to throw to now? Who are the weapons in Tennessee right now? Trayvon Burks. Yeah. Westbrook Akine. Is that that guy's name? I think he's tight ends whose name is slipping me. And some of them, a couple of them could have breakout years,

but right now they don't have many proven dudes that have been out there. They don't have a one or a two. That's tough. They got a lot of threes. Yeah, exactly. You think Tannehill's saying, like, hey, man, I know you guys are trying to kind of get me out of here and try to get my salary down,

but can we get someone to throw to as well at the same time? I don't know, man, because when Tannehill had AJ, he couldn't hit a – that goddamn thing right there, he couldn't throw a ball and hit. That's it. We packed the box on him when we went down there and beat him in Tennessee. Daba? Ate in the box and made him throw. He couldn't hit a target.

I don't know what they're going to do. I guess if I was Tennessee, I would slow the game down and let big boy handle his business because that division is going to be a lot of running. You got two rookie quarterbacks over there. I don't think they're going to come out and throw the ball 60 times a game. Yeah, I wonder what they do. If they start slow, you do wonder if they just say, okay, we'll let this. Yeah, you're yoked up.

Let's just run like a Taysom Hill offense with Will Levis and see what happens. Over, under seven and a half here. Or the same thing the Ravens did when Lamar first got there. They was handoff, speed run. It wasn't just Lamar back there throwing out of the pocket. No, exactly. And that's why you got to kind of account for the Vrabel factor. Like, we're sitting here.

The Titans are going to be terrible. Who are they going to throw to like this is what variable situational football like belichick tree he played for belichick he they do always win a couple games just strictly off of like how they figure it out and do things towards the end of games to buy themselves an extra 20 seconds or whatever yeah like all three phases i bet their special teams is going to be unbelievable and that's something that he's going to harp on and then their defense is still pretty good like jeffrey simmons is still one of the best d tackles in the nfl they have guys on that side of the ball at least they'll be okay they're just not good i don't think anyone's

expecting them to win that's here's the thing though like you know like in a game versus the chiefs or normally the bills or bangles or all a lot of other teams in the AFC, if you're not scoring 28, 24, 28, you're not winning. I mean, everywhere. Yeah, especially early in the year. Before the elements come into play. 10, 15 years ago, he'd probably be like, there's a way they can get into the playoffs.

But I don't think you can just control time of possession and score 17 points and beat teams 17-10 and 17-13 anymore. We saw it last year with the Broncos. You can't ask your defense, they can't score more than 10 points or we're not going to win. It doesn't work like that anymore. It's a different time in the NFL now, I feel like. It happens, but over

and over and over again, that's the tough thing as a defense. You get a couple three and outs in a row, yeah, this is great. We get a turnover, here we go. Okay, that's three possessions. What about the next six like what are you going to do if our offense continues to either turn the ball over they don't get any points on the board like all right we better score on d2 yeah and andy reed he got a fast break offense what playoff game was there i think the chiefs was down and they threw the ball to kelsey it was like and he got down 14 seconds it's the clip we show where he tells Kelsey, hey, man,

if they play like that, you just bend in and get down. Yeah. So, like, that was – I mean, I think they was on their 20 and came back and scored. So, yeah, you got to be able to score points now, and you got to be able to have three guys when they come to wide receivers. Yeah, and Ty just mentioned the Broncos. I can't wait to see what Sean Payton and Russell Wilson look like.

I mean, I wonder if they're going to be – I'll be watching their preseason games just to see how many reps Russ gets. He got zero last year. I know. Did Sean say he's going to play? I don't know. I don't know. I can't remember how.

We could probably look back and see if Sean Payton has played his starters before. That's what gives us a whole other reason to watch. This gives you new added motivation to watch the Broncos, especially their offense. Because, hey, what does this little experiment with Russ look like and how does Sean Payton handle it? I want to see their dynamic, their back and forth. Well, and he has that huge contract,

but you could make the argument like this almost could be a proven year for Russell Wilson. I mean, yeah, right? Especially with Sean Payton. Sean Payton isn't the one, usually like last year when he was hacking Russell Wilson, it was like, okay, if this doesn't work, Hackett's leaving. They can't get rid of Russell. But now with Sean Payton, it's like if this doesn't work.

Sean's not the first one to go. Sean's not leaving. Sean's not going nowhere. I'm sure he said that in his interview process. Like, hey, let's just say it doesn't really work out with the quarterback we have here now. What happens? Do we have a plan moving forward?

What are we going to do? What does it look like? Obviously, he wants to make sure he's safe and doesn't get thrown on him. Yeah, and they didn't sign Sean Payton. They traded for him. Oh, my goodness. He's so good. Yeah.

They didn't give up. How many years? He's clean for at least five years. He can do anything he wants. Oh, yeah. I think he's got a five-year. He's going to be good on defense for the next five years. They got Patrick Sertain, Jr.

They got Zach Allen, DJ Jones, Matt Hennant. They got an unbelievable defense, bro. They're going to be good on the defensive side. Russ's contract, I believe, if they wanted to cut him after next season, I believe it's like $70 million in debt caps. That's going to be tough. After this upcoming one? Yeah.

Oh, man. So it feels like he's – At least two years, you're saying? Yeah. $70 million debt cap. Yeah, that would hurt. You can't really kick that canyon, can you? No.

You can't try to figure it out? What do you think the cap next year is? $235 or something? What is it this year? $220. Yeah, $220 or $218 or something like that. Yeah, it goes up, what, $1215 mil, they think? Unless you could possibly convince him to restructure

and take like $60 million less dollars. You never know. It's absolutely possible. Could you say, Russell, we will cut you and just eat your dead cap, or you can take $60 million less and still be on the team? And you're the guy. And you're the man. What do you think?

You don't think no GM will take half of it? I don't know. I don't know what's going on. Half maybe. Yeah, I feel like you might be. Depends on how he plays this year. Yeah, depending on how he plays this year. If he does what he did last year, this year, no one's taking that.

That's like Carson Wentz territory almost for us, Wilson. Yeah, he's not tradable again, is he? No way. Not for what they traded. I mean, finally they've been doing this on Twitter and Instagram. They've done like the how have these trades finally turned out. Like the Watson, all those picks are now players. The Seahawks, all those picks are now players the seahawks all

those picks are now players i mean they got the number one corner in the draft seattle did for russell wilson so if he doesn't have a great year in seattle you know does what they did last year even a little better then people are going to be looking at that trade like a trey lance trade i'm possibly one of the worst ones that's been has happened in the last few years didn't that the trade happened right after the new owners took over, right? The Waltons? I think so. The Walton family? Because they hired Hackett too, right?

I think it was before. Probably while they were in the process of buying the team? I believe so. That's when Russ was traded? Okay. I wonder how that was. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it was before they owned the team. It might have been. I mean, whether it was before or after, I don't think they would... I think they would have probably thought that that was a good move, too.

Oh, yeah. But they would seem like they're people that have enough cash to where if it's not a good move, they're like, cool. Cut bait. See ya. Let's get out of here. Let's not sit here and try to figure it out if it doesn't work. But again, it should be sweet to watch them, but the team we were just talking about, the Chiefs are in that division. And then you think about the Chargers

with Herbert. You assume they might get better. And then you think about the Chargers with Herbert. You assume they might get better. And then you think about the Raiders with Jimmy G now. Maybe they're going to be better. I think they're going to be better. Absolutely. With Devontae and, you know, that's one of the best wide receiver cores with a running back, you could argue, for sure. I listened to Devontae talk about Max Crosby at the Derby.

Someone asked him about it when I was sitting there with him. The vulture. And Devontae, like, it's like the dude walks on water. at the derby someone asked him about it when i was sitting there with him vulture and davante like it's like the dude walks on water max crosby's like dude the he's the one of the best teammates i've ever been around ever in my life and he talked about he's like he loves every single aspect of football he is obsessed with all of it he says he'll text davante randomly like hey man just want to let you know i love you man i think about you can't wait to get back out there so i'm like james like that makes me feel good about the team

that's probably why I'm biased and I think they're going to be a better team just because I know if you know like oh they have some guys like that that's a trickle down to the rest of the squad well it's got to help too that there's no like growing pains like Jimmy G knows Josh McDaniels offense McDaniels has to be pumped oh yeah way more pumped than he was with Derek Carr because if

he wasn't then he probably still be on the team and Tony his nickname is not the vulture. It's the condor. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. What? I was wondering.

That's why I kept going. I knew it was a large predatorial bird. Yeah. Condor. Condor. Mad Max. The condor. Condor.

Vulture's actually more of like a scavenger. Yeah, you're right. As I said it, I fucking. Man, I was down in Mexico watching those birds over and over again dive bomb, boom, and get fish. Condors are. What were they they i don't know what they were considered those are probably vultures but i also have absolutely no i was in a large mouth pelican yeah it might have been a large mouth pelican yeah they were getting they

were successful all the time you know who else is successful who's also very physical who's the next guest we have guys everybody's strapping this guy not only obviously unbelievable nascar driver the drives the number one car what what has two wins, I think. I think it says on this thing right here. He has two wins and 36 top tens. Damn. Pretty good. That's obviously awesome.

We know everything he does. But one of the greatest things that we have seen recently over the last couple weeks is this guy's right hand going right through somebody else's face. Everyone, please welcome Ross Chastain. Yeah. Hey, guys. Everyone, please welcome Ross Chastain. Hey, guys. What's up, Ross? Appreciate you coming on here, man.

Hey, what's the – I mean, obviously you've been successful for a long time, for a while on the track, but now all this newfound fame, all this newfound attention, what's it like, man? Are you – how are you and Noah? You guys all right? First off, how's that situation? We are, man. Noah and I, we've known each other for several years,

and we train together, we prepare together, and we've been in separate series for a little bit. Now we're both in the Cup Series exactly where we want to be. So we're both trying to prove ourselves. We're both trying to get to where we want to be and stay here in the Cup Series. It's not easy. There's only 36 seats. So we're good.

We talked on Monday on the phone, and then we were together testing some micro sprint cars Monday night. We worked out together this week. It's good. It's done and over with, and we've been able to move on and laugh about it now. We weren't exactly laughing on Sunday. What does NASCAR do in those situations they're kind of stuck in between because they don't they probably don't say we don't love physical violence but we absolutely love the ratings it brings us that's for sure so how do

they handle it well they jump in the middle the two guys you see on the video uh is their full-time security to travel with us and and they help us handle uh situations out in the public and then also on pit road between each other. They let us talk, and you'll see them come up in the background here. And then once any physical stuff happens, they jump in. I know Noah, we talked about it. He wanted to have a fair shot back. I would like that too.

That way he doesn't have more ill will, but he's good with it. And those guys, they're professionals and jumped in. You were so super, you were calm from the jump the whole time. And then you even told him, like, you warned him when he put his hands on you. Okay, stop, stop. Were you surprised that he continued after you said stop? And also, how were you able to stay so calm? Yeah, I mean, surprised by the whole situation.

Not surprised that he came down we we had a close call on the track he got in the wall i left him one lane and i told him that and and we were both driving really aggressively at that time he was on older tires and we were coming through the field um on a different strategy and he worked really hard on that lap to stay next to me like we have data on the cars we have uh throttle brake steer you can see all that live um on on a computer program and it's called smt and it's it's got everything on there and you can see him really try hard and a lot of throttle that he doesn't normally run on those laps uh before to stay next to me. So when he came down, I saw him coming and stopped the interview I was doing

and let him approach. And I could tell by his face he was mad. He had the crazy eyes going. And when he grabbed a hold of me, I just tried to stop it. I told him to stop, and I tried to stop both of his arms in case he did swing. And then I had to defend myself. Look, my dad told me for as long as I can remember, never punch first. We're not going to go fight anybody.

We're not fighters. But if they come down at the racetrack at 12 years old or 14 years old when I was growing up to our pit, we're going to defend ourselves, and we're allowed to do that. So that's what went through my mind uh and and we handled it good day touchman has something for you yeah ross speaking of your dad and your family i know uh you said like growing up you come from you're what a ninth generation watermelon farmer which sounds awesome i didn't know there were watermelon farms um how did you get like was racing always always you know what you wanted to do um how did you get to this point, considering a lot of the people that you're around and where you're from is all about farming?

And then also, kind of a segue from that, are you a deer guy? I got to know. As an Iowan, it's very important to me to know if you're farming out there, if you're tilling the land. I don't know if deer has specific machinery for watermelon picking. But are you a deer guy as well? So, yeah, so growing up, my brother Chad and I were eighth generation consecutive watermelon farmers. The Chastains have been farming longer than that, but it gets kind of spotty on what exactly they were doing. And we come from South Georgia is where the family was until my grandfather graduated high school.

And they, my great grandfather Cicero moved the family to South Florida for an earlier crop because farming was not a good life. They did not live in what I'm calling now our good old days of agriculture where there, man, there are, there are more people in this world every day

and there are less and less people in charge of feeding us and i'll put myself in the latter category of i'm a consumer i buy my groceries at the grocery store like everybody else because i'm off chasing checkered flags trophies in nascar but um we we had a we have some short tracks around south florida and most most uh towns and areas and states across the country do. And my dad just got into some hobby racing a little bit before I was born and a little bit after. And then he got me into it when I was 12 years old. Mark Martin's son, legend of our sport. His son, Matt Martin, raced in a kid class, and I got into that at 12 years old.

So at 12 years old, picture this. My family drives me to the racetrack with our race car trailer in the racetrack, and then I get to go out on track because I can't drive there, but I get to drive on track with 350 horsepower, bumping and banging and spinning out. It was wild, and that's how I fell in love with it. And from that moment at 12 years old, it was december 5th december 8th i don't it was like late 2005 maybe been september uh of 2005 we we run our i run my first race and i fell in love with the sport so uh we haven't for some reason stopped ever since and it still doesn't

make sense why i'm here racing in the cup series adam Adam Pacman Jones has something for you. I love the right hand. I'm here to say, touch you first. It looked like you've been in a couple of fights. What is your record on and off of the track? Yes. So, I mean, yes, I have. I, um, uh, it's always been about racing. So all of, all my deals have been about about wrecked race cars and um early on i believe i was oh and two uh i got i got you know i didn't know i mean i was a teenager um 20 years old uh i guess i was younger than that actually i think i was 18 uh my first couple and and yeah um some bigger older guys that they they taught me a lot on the racetrack

and they taught me a lot when i got out and and said the wrong things to them and i got beat up that's no way around it uh but i learned from that and um yeah now uh on you know uh there have been two in in nascar and and i'm i guess two and oh in that category so two and two all all said hell yeah there we go another guy who i think is undefeated in fights is Tone Diggs. What do you have? That's not true, Ross. He just lied right to your face. But speaking of that, you know, as far back as we go through the drivers,

who would you say is probably the most intimidating driver, maybe best fighting driver of all time? I mean, is it the Intimidator? Is it Tony Smoke Stewart? Is it? There's the Intimidator right there. Jeff Gordon. Is it Dale Intimidator? Is it Tony Smoke Stewart? There's the Intimidator right there. Jeff Gordon. Is it Dale Jarrett?

Who would you say is the best fighting NASCAR driver of all time? I don't know, man. We're not fighters, and I'm not a fighter. Look, I don't want to fight. I've been punched in the face. That's the main reason I grabbed Noah's arm. I don't want to be punched in the face. I don't like it.

I don't ever want it to happen again. I don't want to be punched in the face. I don't like it. I don't ever want it to happen again. So most of the time, and almost all the time, we're not fighting in NASCAR. There's some pushing and shoving here and there. But I felt like on Sunday, it was just punch or be punched. And I had to defend myself. He walked up to me.

He grabbed ahold of me. He was pushing me. And I did it. So we don't see that. had to defend myself he he walked up to me he grabbed a hold of me he was pushing me and uh i i did it so we don't we don't see that and that's not something that i i prepare for i train for i mean i just knew in the moment try to neutralize the situation try to stop him uh and uh ultimately i had to do what i had to do so smoke stewart got it hey ross i don't know you don't know uh ross there's a there's a guy on the line here that wants to say hello. I think he has a question for you real quick. There he is, Mr. Pat McAfee.

Ross, how are you, pal? I am bummed that I'm not able to be in the studio full time for this conversation, but the reason why I'm not there is a reason that I'm fucking elated. So one outweighs the other for sure. I'm here with my baby. I've been listening to this conversation you've been having. You're the man. And I want to let you know, my wife and I only eat Chastain watermelons.

So, like, we don't eat anybody else's watermelons. We try to support you as much as we can. Listening to you chit-chat here, this has been a great convo. AJ, you're crushing it, pal. Absolutely. I didn't hear you chanting sports earlier, though. No. I just wanted to let you know I watched the video.

I was. Watch it back. Okay. Just like you put your hands up with whiz or no? Yep. Visual proof. Visual proof. I, though. No. I just want to let you know I watched the video. I was. Watch it back. Okay. Just like you put your hands up with Wiz or no? Yep. Visual proof. Visual proof. I had that.

Okay. Okay. I might not have seen it or whatever, but it feels like if you go back to the beginning of NASCAR, Ross, like the sparks flying off the track is racing for a lot of people. Like a lot of people that don't watch NASCAR or whatever. Tone just rattled off some names they're all fiery human beings they've all been known to scrap and scrap a little bit but like does nascar love it does nascar absolutely enjoy it uh what's that aj did you ask that question no no no it's completely separate tone digs just his tone digs face and everything about his aura just makes me laugh sometimes. Sorry. Okay. I understand.

Well, sweet. I didn't know if I was copying. So I'm watching the show on this thing here. Oh, and then nice. And our baby's swinging over here for the first time. And then I call in in the show is like 45 seconds to a minute ahead. So I didn't. Did you do you drive a John Deere?

No, I didn't. I don't think I got to hear the answer. I had to mute TV there and here. I missed a couple of your answers. So I might have missed the NASCAR conversation about fighting. But do they love it? They have to quietly? Do you guys get yelled at for it?

Do you maybe think about with how good you throw that right hand, maybe we fucking do it more. Maybe, you know what I mean? Maybe we kind of get in there a little bit, Ross. Yeah. First off, yeah, Pat, congratulations on the baby there. Yeah, man. know what i mean maybe we kind of get in there a little bit ross yeah first off yeah pat congratulations on the baby there um yeah man it's uh it's it's i think everybody is uh you know a bit mixed emotions right we we know that nascar wants us to compete right we've got 35 i've got 35

competitors every week i have every competitor that i'm going to face over our 38 races, which 36 of them count for points for the championship. We go up against each other every week. We don't have weeks or months at a time to not see each other and forget about what happened in the last race. Every week, we go back and we race again. That's why you see stuff tend to get fired up uh more because it's not just one or two uh you know games a year races a year so um yeah they they didn't love it uh i had to have some tough conversations you know after sunday there was a lot within the team at track house there was a lot of tough conversations with nascar um and with my family man look my i don't want my my meemaw and my mimi right my grandmothers to see me fighting.

But ultimately they understand that I had to handle myself. Okay, so I want to let you know there's another sport happening right now, hockey. Okay? And at the end of last night's game, a guy punched another guy in the face twice. Right in front of a ref. And a kid that got punched in the face laughed in the face. Yeah, McKenzie's laughing about it right now. We literally watched it together. He literally laughed in the face of a kid that got punched in the face laughed in the face yeah mckenzie's laughing about it right now we literally watch it together literally laughed in the face of the guy that punched him in the face and it's just like no that's what hockey is like with the way

that game ended everybody's thinking that there's going to be more fights in the next game even though they've been trying to eliminate fighting fighting has become a full part of the conversation here in hockey and it always will because it's an important part they need to be thanking you guys for throwing rights and your service to your fists into that man's jaw you're on this show because i assume you've been doing a lot of talking about this because it took over the internet it took over the world oh yeah and i know on the track like it's very dangerous you guys are going very fast one One little sneeze. Magic, did you ever sneeze? Have you ever sneezed? I have. I have sneezed in the car.

It's not fun. Holy shit. Did you poop immediately? Like my dog, did you sneeze and go, oh, no, and poop out of fear? But anyways, one little this, we get it. But I'll tell you, you guys start working in some spears, some chops. What? It's good selling on the outside. Man, this guys start working in, you know, some spears, some chops, you know, it's good selling on the outside, man.

It's be every week, AJ be every week. We've been talking about this. Sorry to burst your bubble, man. That's I don't think that's going to happen. That's great for hockey and, and, and, you know, it's great for, for fans watching maybe, but for us competitors, that's not, that's not who we are. That's I can just, that's a side show. You're saying I'm not, I'm not, I'm only going to defend myself if someone comes down and grabs me.

I will have conversations with guys, and I have. I've had a lot of them, probably more than I'd care to have with guys upset with me. But I'm uncomfortable making these guys and girls uncomfortable on the track. Look, sometimes the things I do with air blocking or restarts and being aggressive, when we're all packed up on a restart, it's the best chance we have to pass. Look, sometimes the things I do with air blocking or restarts and being aggressive, when we're all packed up on a restart, it's the best chance we have to pass. Once we get singled out, it's really hard to catch the next car. So trying to take advantage of restarts and put guys in uncomfortable situations, they put me in my fair share, too, of my car uncomfortably behind them,

beside them, up next to the wall. But I'm okay with them being uncomfortable and them not being super excited to see me or want to come talk to me after the race. I'm okay with that. A lot of them are not. That's awesome. Just the whole thought that nobody's

going to come up to you ever again. AJ, how natural was that? It looked like he was in the Oculus Arena. He's smart. You didn't let him hit you first because he grabs you and pushes you so yeah you did it before nobody nobody's gonna want any smoke with ross don't stay 10 feet away from you they'll stay right outside your reach no matter what the whole time yep they're gonna be doing a lot of this from like a couple feet away you know and i appreciate you saying hey i'm a good human man i don't want

to be putting people in a situation where they want to fight me because we could die out there and people have in the past i'm an idiot but i want to let you know loved everything you did out there sorry about it aj go ahead pal oh no you're great ross what is air blocking you mentioned that i'm sure it's common for you but for someone like me i don't know what that even means yeah man so we're going really fast and we depend on air to make our cars handle. So everything we do is either to give the car mechanical grip with like springs and shocks and the tires. But then to push the car down on the ground, we're basically airplanes upside down. Airplanes, when they take off, they go up, they have lift. Well, none of that makes sense, Ross.

Yeah, Denzel did it. Yeah. So the biggest thing is to use the air to go faster. So the faster you go, the more grip you have. When you get behind a car, think of following a semi down the interstate. It's going to start buffeting around. You're going to feel it moving. If you're too close, then you pull out. It's all smooth.

That's what we have behind each other. You can use that to your advantage to block them, them to slow them down and to make their car handle bad so it's like a green shell it's like a banana oh it's like a banana okay hell yeah so you're like wiggling almost or trying to get in front of them to kind of disrupt their uh whatchamacallit yeah they're they're just the air it's as simple as you know the air pushing down their car from driving almost 200 miles an hour if they have less air they have less grip man you good at mario kart no i leave that to my pit crew man so we've got some athletes on our team that's you know i've got 140 plus employees here at Trackhouse that work just to put the 99

and the one car on the track. How many? It takes 140 people. You're paying 140 people? We got 100. They're all gone. Most of them are gone today.

We got old cars from years gone by that we're going to get rid of, hopefully. They for sale? Sweet, yes. Yeah, who do you sell them to? Maybe we can make a deal. All right, let's do that. You want to do that right now or later?

Do it right here. I'll send you my Venmo. Okay, sick, sick. It's going to be tough. I mean, that digital payment, they limit you, they cap you. I don't know if I'm going to be able to buy one of those, but we will certainly make something happen. Imagine that thing sitting outside the Thunderdome.

Oh, sick. Need it. So, yeah, look, we've got mechanics that Justin Marks and Pitbull have hired to work on the cars that have been mechanics and worked with their hands, wrenches, their whole life. We've got crew chiefs and engineers that are super smart. They went to school for this stuff. They work on their laptops all day long to make my car and Daniel's the best it can be.

We have hauler drivers that have to travel all over the country. And then we have athletes hired to change the tires and fill it up with fuel in nine seconds on these pit stops. So back to the reason i brought that up that's the mario kart uh of our of our world they all are on their switches on the plane um and they are they are brawling on some mario kart after the races oh yeah i love it i did that one time the the college football players are all doing the the guys that don't make it to the nfl are getting into the pit crew game. Right?

We've got some guys that were in the league. We've got a lot of college football players. Yeah, man. It's like a pipeline, AJ. It's a competition. They love to compete. Do they drug test those guys? Yeah.

I mean, for steroids. They can test it for drugs. Yeah, juice, I'm saying. Raffleport. We're talking about taking out Raffleport. Yeah, juice, I'm saying. Raffaport. We're talking about taking out Raffaport. Yeah, those guys should all be on the juice because they're going to jack that car up in nine seconds. We're all clean, man. All clean here. Damn.

Okay, congrats. You drug test 140 people? That's a lot of money, too. Is it you or NASCAR? Who does it? That's the question. Where are we in the season right now yeah what's next and we're yeah we're about uh halfway through our regular season so we run 26 races and then we reset

and the top 16 guys uh they go for the championship and 10 races and it kind of it's different rounds three races at a time all ultimately to get to one race in phoenix arizona so we're uh i guess race we're about halfway through that 26 uh we're at race 12 um and uh we're leading the points with the one car uh we're we're top of the heap we haven't won yet this year but we won two races last year my first two and track house's first two we're a new team like justin marks and pitbull mr worldwide the pitbull okay all right i think we got we got pitbull pitbull's paying 140 people you're saying and then the other owner well he helps yeah he's mr 305 so is he coming to races how does he is he good driver what's he doing i've never seen him drive but he does come to some races he's he's

a car guy he just loves to compete. And when Trackhouse, when Justin Marks had this idea, he wanted something and wanted somebody to be a part of it that was bigger than racing. And so Trackhouse Racing is just a small part of the larger Trackhouse group that has ties in Nashville and is going to continue to grow just in the world. So we're a small part, but we're proud that we're a part of this. And, yeah, Armando, he texted me after Sunday.

He was proud of the fight, you know, the fight in the team. Armando as in Pitbull Armando? Yeah, I call him Armando, but, yeah, Pitbull. His name's not Pitbull. Who the hell's Armando? His name's fucking Pitbull, Ross. In the first place, let's not fuck it up by doing anything dumb. but yeah, Pitbull. No. His name's not Pitbull. Who the hell's Armando? Ross, his name's fucking Pitbull, Ross. In the first place. Let's not fuck it up by doing anything dumb.

His name's Pitbull. What are we? Ross, it's not Armando. You call a guy Pitbull. You call it, right? His brother. I don't know. It's just what I do.

Did he introduce himself Armando? You know me as Pitbull? Or did he say, you know who I am? or Mr. Worldwide, Mr. 305? He was introduced to me as Armando. Oh, business Pitbull. Business Pitbull. Fuck. Yeah, I call him Armando.

Kitty boy to two chains, yeah. No, it's really different. No? So he's actually, I mean, for being back before, man, he texts, he stays up to date. I was able to send some of my family to the show back home in South Florida. They had never

been to anything like that. So my grandmother went. She was right down the front row having a blast. Dude, I think everybody on earth, and that's why he is Senor Worldwide, Mr. Worldwide, Monsieur Worldwide. Do you know anybody that doesn't like a pit bull?

He could do a concert forever, I think. It's so motivating. Gosh, I'm ready to run through a Martinsville wall again when I listen to his songs. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I spent too much of his money building new cars. The logo is there the t and e h and also look at that hat the hat is

awesome ty don't you love that hat yeah that is nice yeah that is sick that is absolutely sick uh listen ross you didn't answer it we've asked you a couple times here are you a john deere guy i can't get over it yeah Yeah, look, we've got several colors at the farm. They better be green and yellow, pal. Sure sounds like no. Yeah, look, y'all just need to come to the farm one day.

Do the show. Usually to answer the question. Okay, we'll have some fun. How's it work? Is that in water? Is that in ground? Above? Pumpkins. How does it work? Is that in water? Is that in ground? Underground, right? Above? Pumpkins.

Yeah, they pop up, actually. How does it work? What do watermelons look like from when you plant them until you pick them? What's it look like? And how many acres do you guys have of these things? Yeah. Are they on trees? Do you grow seedless ones, too?

And how do you feel about Roundup? Yeah, is that killing us? A lot of them. Watermelons are grown. We transplant the plants into the ground, and then we grow their vines on top of the ground in real sandy soil. So it takes about 100 days. There you go.

Is that a seedless right there, the round ones? Yes, that'd be a seedless. Why do you guys even have the seeds anymore? To grow other watermelons? I like seeded watermelons. I like to spit a seedless. Why do you guys even have the seeds anymore? To grow other watermelons? I like seeded watermelons. I like to spit the seed out. I like it, but people are lazy. What are we talking about?

Hey, I like the watermelon with the seeds in it, too. I mean, I like them both. Really? If I have a choice, I want the ones with no seeds. Are we talking more flavor? Is the flavor different? Like a bonin? I'm a watermelon connoisseur, but I'll tell you what.

When you guys took the seeds out of those things, it got a lot easier and better for me personally. Personally for me. That's my watermelon experience. Chastain watermelon. Is that what they're called? Chastain watermelons? Mackenzie can't wait.

She's going to see this early. She's got no teeth. Our watermelons are Mackenzie can't wait. She's going to see this early. She's got no teeth. Our watermelons are called Melon One. We're part of a larger group of family farms. We promote all watermelons. We're just in Florida. That's what you'll see on one of my race cars this weekend. The Florida

Watermelon Association has sponsored my car. Hell yeah. Ross, is it true if you swallow a seed that a watermelon grows in your stomach, or is that a favor? Good question, Tony. Thank you. Glad I threw it to you.

Yeah. You know, I heard that. I didn't want to take the chance, so I never did it. Smart. Smart. I think Connor has one more for you before you go, Ross. Yeah, Ross, one more for you real quick, and this doesn't affect me as much, but are you a fucking deer guy or not?

Just say hell, dude not we need to know yeah you need to know we don't know a lot of ninth generation farmers bro he said there's a lot of different colors in the farm right and when it comes to your equipment yeah so what we got we got bobcat out there we got john dinger out there we got kubota what else is there is there green or not? Listen, okay, look. All right, look. I have, you know, I have, I'll be honest. I've grown up with some deer at the farm, but I am a Kubota man now. Oh, Jesus.

It's probably a sponsorship situation. No! He's got a contract with them, Ty. So you don't have to jump off the roof. Get all the free tractors and trailers you can, pal. It'd be a different situation if you got a contract, but you better get your ass online and order a deer. I don't think there's ever been anybody on this show that's ever had to fight off answering a question as hard as I just did.

True. Because they're all deer guys. Yeah, but Ross, you knew we were going to get it, though, right? As soon as you just danced around it, it was like, all right, here we go. You're a fan of the program. We learned today. We're very thankful for you.

Hell yeah. That was very nice. Very rarely. Look, I thought I was going to be on after Martin's. I don't know what happened. What do you mean? What happened? Dale Mellon.

Oh, yeah. Foxy, what happened? Foxy? I don't know. What do you mean you don't know? What's up, baby? Is that on our end or your end? I think it's on our end.

You don't know. Never again. Maybe we found out he was not a deer guy. I think that's what it was. No, we had intuition, a little feeling. A little feeling. No one's ever had their feet held to the fire as much. For them to answer a question on what kind of equipment you use on your farm.

So, Ross, here's what happened. You wrote that incredibly nice thing. We read it. We're like, this dude's a fan of the show. So now we just assume we can just, you know. Yeah. This guy gets it, you know. So we can fucking pepper him if we have to.

And you're racing. How fast is your car going? What's the top speed this year? Look, we're trying to keep it under 200. So we're up in the mid-190 sometimes. But NASCAR is a group that's just better if we stay under 200. We tend to fly in the air a lot when we get spun around backwards over 200. Interesting.

Because in IndyCar, they're trying to sneak every mile per hour out of their car that they can going the fastest is a massive weapon now to your point their crashes are i mean all crashes are insane but they're flying through the air those cars indycars flying through the air so you guys are trying to just find the secret sauce at each track about what's the peak speed you can go with the way the track is built? Or how does that work? Because I just assume that your engineers and there's 140 employees are trying to get the car faster than everybody else's car, even if it's by one-tenth of a mile per hour or whatever.

Yeah, no. Us, track house, me, I want my car to go 1,000 miles an hour. I don't care. I want to go faster than everybody. But NASCAR is a a group so we got a new car they rolled out last year uh we're not manufacturing cars anymore like we did for 70 something years in the sport this shop used to manufacture cars in its previous life now we we we buy and we assemble cars that that we all. So every team in the garage buys from the same supplier.

So we all have the same parts and pieces. So NASCAR, when they designed it, they just tried to give us the aerodynamic downforce and the amount of power we have and the amount of tire grip we have to just keep us under 200, just as a ballpark. But we're all looking for those little crumbs of speed, and we want to go faster than the next guy. All right. Well, if you can drive that fast, you can handle fucking John Deere question five, six times.

You got it. Ross, thank you so much, man. We really appreciate you coming on here and really handling some of the tough, hard-hitting questions that you probably don't get on other programs. So you handled it very well, Ross. So thank you very much. Ladies and gentlemen, Ross Chastain.

Hey, Ross. All right. I'm out of here. See you, much. Ladies and gentlemen, Ross Chastain. Hey, Ross. All right. I'm out of here. See you, guys. What are you doing? Well, the baby's crying. You been changing any poop diapers? Yeah, I'm pretty good.

I'm not bad. I'm not bad. I'm glad he didn't get the blowout. Oh, we got a blowout situation. Obviously, somebody is doing a little bit more than the other. Okay, one party is certainly doing a little bit more than the other. One party is certainly doing a little bit more than the other. So the blue out. So I'm

doing night shift. Sam does early mornings. I'm a night person. She's a morning person. It's actually a pretty good system. Which is the actual statement. I saw a lot of people tweeting me that I said it wrong. Go Google. Mackenzie knows.

Okay. Mackenzie's 25% Korean, which is where yin-yang comes from. Eventually, I learned that at the Olympics, I do believe. Anyway, I try to hand off the baby to mom with clean diaper, you know, maybe just fed. Like, hey, you're waking up. Let's do this whole thing. So Sam's coming in, clean a diaper, give bottle only a little bit of poop, like smallest amount of poop that I have seen on diaper or in diaper. OK, yeah.

But market done. Dirty diaper. Also had peace. All the blue wet diaper as well. Let's go and jot that down. Hand off the baby. I'm a fucking hero. OK, Mother's's day is coming up she's brand new mom i'm a hero okay she's refreshed she's doing her thing you know i'm doing i guess that little that little amount of poop that was on the diaper that i changed was just kind of like a feeler like a pilot fish

yeah it's kind of kind of like a send out. See how things are going. It was her first blue. And she, I guess she destroyed a diaper. It went up her back through a onesie. Oh, yes. Which the onesie was one of her favorite onesies. So we lost a good one out there. Damn.

Yeah. Sam had to deal with that this morning. It's her first real poop as opposed to all the other poops that have been happening. Big deal. The poop thing is, I think in my mind, a lot different than some people because remember she couldn't poop for the first 36 hours and they thought they were going to have to give her

an enema and it was a problem. So now every poop I'm like, this is good. Yeah, she's pooping. She is fucking chugging formula though. She's getting after it, bro. That's good. Real deal. It's a great thing.

If they're not taking any, that's when you have to worry. Every doctor that we've encountered has asked us, is she feeding? Yep. And it's like, are we doing too much? I'm a little bit worried. She's holding this fucking bottle, dude. That's awesome. She's holding the bottle while guzzling it i've been able to scratch the outside of my right calf while holding her head with my left arm and feed her at

the same time because she's holding her bottle into her mouth as somebody that just turned a week old or whatever it's been awesome it's been insane and you know hanging with mama and the baby here has been amazing so i appreciate you traveling out and for the boys continuing to do the show. We've watched you. I've got a chance to experience life as somebody that watches our show. You all are great to hang out with, man. I'm very, very, very lucky that I get to do it for a living, and it's been a magical time for shoot, for shoot, for shoot.

For shoot. Have you watched any games at night? Anything going on? Everything, yeah. I've watched everything, bro bro i'm up to whatever three four what happened last night oh so that was awesome i actually watched the aftermath when ernie was talking to who's the guy on the court he's good yeah he is um i forget his name but he was explaining the whole situation right of what went on personality though, though. Yeah. When he talks to Steve Kerr, like, he's actually asking questions that are good. But him having to be like a journalist reporting on what he saw A.D. do live in the moment.

And Shaq, you hear crumble up his papers and throw them over his head. Whenever you hear he got onto a wheelchair and that he was not in the concussion protocol, did not have a concussion. And he was on a wheelchair. And then Chuck starts laughing. And then Kenny was talking, I think, and Shaq clearly losing his shit on the side of the table. And then Chuck started talking. Chuck started laughing while he was talking.

And Ernie, I don't think Ernie fully got what they were laughing at. I don't think Ernie, I think there might've been somebody talking in Ernie, I don't think Ernie fully got what they were laughing at. I don't think Ernie, I think there might've been somebody talking in Ernie's ear while the guy said like, he's seems to be okay at the beginning. He had a little bit, he was off balance, but he's not in concussion protocol. And they put him in a wheelchair, like the way the message was delivered. It was like a, it was like a Paul Pierce situation when he allegedly had to poop. Exactly. That is kind of what I think everybody thought it was. But if you listen to anybody that's a Laker fan talk,

they do fear that AD is a little bit. Soph. What do you think happened, Pac? Soph. That's what people are saying. How do they know he didn't have a concussion that quick after the game? Is this picture real? Is that one picture?

Yes. That's real? That's a real picture. That looks like how they light Jesus in paintings from back in the game. Is this picture real? Is that one picture? Yes. That's real? That's a real picture. That looks like how they light Jesus in paintings from back in the day. That is an incredible edit. Look at that. Phenomenal edit, dude.

I mean, I think I saw he's expected to play game six. He's already saying he's going to play? Was it an elbow that caught him just right in the temple? No, it was kind of like a pinky, I think. It must have hit him right on the button, as I say. No, it didn't, though, because he's not in concussion protocol. That's what everybody else said.

That's confusing to me. What is in there? What's your ear? Hey, what happens to your eardrum? People get vertigo. People can get vertigo and get all dizzy and weird, but that's not from getting hit, though. No, it's like fluid buildup in there. Oh. Well, maybe. I was thinking that would be an excuse, but I ain't got nothing for him. Normally, I'm pretty good at making excuses for people, too.

This one, I... You don't have anything? That one was bad. There's no excuse we can make for him on this one. Then to go out in a fucking wheelchair. That's the hard part I have. It's like me hurting my finger or my wrist and tell them to bring the scratcher out, and they carry me like my neck is broke. Yeah, do not bring the scratcher out and they carry me like my neck

is a scratcher. Yeah, do not bring the scratcher if I hurt my pinky. Pat, did you hear that where they went off was on the opposite side of the arena? So it could have been a long, long walk too. Maybe they just like, maybe they told him. They were worried, yeah. They're worried he's a bit woozy, a bit

woobly. He's ten fucking feet tall. It's like five steps. Give me a break. Hold my fucking hand before I get in the wheel. Oh, yeah. I mean, anything, right? Come on, man. Yeah, optically he knows. Lakers fans should be pumped, though, that he most likely is going to play in game six.

I heard everybody. I heard Pac say this as well yesterday. And I didn't know this was a thing. LeBron said it in his post-game interview last game when AD checked out to be on Steph Curry at the end of the game there for the shot. LeBron said something about, like, you know, AD's the best defensive player in the game. And then the next day I saw on a bunch of the sports shows they were breaking down AD's defense, like highlights how good of a defender he is. They were talking about how good he is on the defense side of the court because everybody's murdered him for his offensive production and i hadn't heard that about ad that did it i might just be such a noob but

i guess he's like the guy on the defensive side of the ball is what people are saying yeah he won defense player of the year i think like three four years ago when he was in new orleans but you know everyone's saying this we'll see what happens if they play Nikola Jokic in the Nuggets because he'll put that to the test because Jokic's numbers are ridiculous. I'm trying to tell Connor it's not just about stopping one player. It's about that he can transfer from

the big guy and still guard the guard. The pick and roll is so huge because he's so athletic and can move so well. He can contest the shot but also get under. That's where it's at. Absolutely, but with Denver, it is actually about just stopping one player. Agreed. And that's Nikola Jokic. No, no, no.

No, no, no. When he scored 50, they didn't win. He was more of a distributor. Yeah. Also, I think the team as a whole outside of him shot like 40%. Well, I'll see yours to be over with tomorrow. Lakers winners, you think? It'll be over with tomorrow.

Well, he hopes because if it isn't, then we got a shaved head situation on our hands. Your team is up on the banner, and your other team might be up on the banner. Absolutely. Very possible. I don't know. That fucking Corgi is undefeated, and that Corgi says that Warriors are coming back to win in seven. Corgi's 5-0 right now.

Oh, look at this. That's a beautiful Corgi. Just like that one. That particular Corgi can't lift its legs high enough to hit a ball. Yeah. And then, all right, I'm going to get out of here. And I appreciate you guys. You guys are incredible.

And shout out that Ross guy. I alluded to it. He wrote us a nice letter. Oh, yeah. He's the man. Really good, dude. Can you show your fish tank real quick? I just want to see what you got going in there.

Yeah, I will show your fish tank real quick I just want to see what you got going in there Yeah I will show the fish tank actually Because AJ tried to gift me piranhas For the fucking I would never send piranhas for a saltwater tank Look at that You got a lot of live coral Yeah this fucker right here is interesting That thing's sweet A little stinger deal

You see those little starfish legs that look like octopi? Oh, yeah. Grab it. It's going to be tough for me to get my hand in there, Pat. This is double pain, soundproof glass. And before I get out of here, the dogs are going crazy because we're getting food delivered. Shout out to DoorDash. Hell yeah.

Here's the baby girl. Oh, man. Look at that hair. That's that pacifier I was telling you about, buddy. Oh, is that the one you were talking about? Yeah, we had those two. Those are nice. Ooh, that binky there saves some nights.

Yeah, it's pretty awesome. She's like either all in on the binky or all out on the binky and then here's oh that's way too much me isn't it Jesus Christ Inception sweet that's what the wife's saying way too much me you know what I mean I don't know how she's dealing I'm around you know right now

so she's dealing with baby and also me here it's a lot she's kicking ass though I'm sure it is definitely a lot just like you guys are and And Ross Chastain. I appreciate you all so much. We'll be watching. Cheers, everybody.

All right, man. Thanks, man. Appreciate it. See you, Pat. There's a giant nine-foot-tall gentleman somewhere down in Florida that's going to join us. This guy, obviously, all pro in the NFL, tight end, giant human, caught tons of touchdowns. Really a good dude. Very unique dude.

We started talking about this guy yesterday on the show a little bit. He had a bit of a wreck in Miami, I believe, when he was on his bicycle riding. A car may have done something to him, but let's welcome in Mr. Jimmy Graham. Yay! Sweet! What's up, man? How you doing? Good, man.

So, let's see. Are you on your boat right now, and you're using Starlink internet? Yeah. Yeah, I'm on the boat right now. So if I break up, sorry about that. Yeah, hopefully it works. It'll be good for Elon. I want to see how this works out here live on air if the connection is good. Jimmy, can you show us your calf and can you explain it from start to finish exactly what

happened yesterday when you got, or a couple of days ago, you got sideswiped by a car? Yeah, well, right now my leg by a car. Yeah, yeah. Well, right now my leg's kind of wrapped up, but basically I was coming back from the key. You know, we've got great cyclists down here in Miami. I started last year cycling because I wanted to do something to stay in shape on a boat, and ended up falling in love with it. You know, we've got guys like Ray Lewis, Desmond Howard, just all these guys are riding every week here. So we've got big, nice groups here. And I was on my way back to the boat.

And I guess a guy on the one lane didn't see me because the sun was coming up and just took a left and just T-boned me. I was probably going 20. He was probably going 20, 25. Damn. You know, I ripped all the skin off my back. And, you know, I've got that big laceration. And luckily I had a helmet on. and I've got that big laceration. Luckily, I had a helmet on, and I guess he hit my left side.

And so the side that crunched into the bike just shattered the carbon fiber on the bike six different places, and then that ran into my leg. So at first, I thought I shattered my leg at first, but it ended up just being a cut. And I think all the years of punishment in the NFL kind of built the calluses up. Jeez, is that your first bike wreck? I know you dabble into every cool, fun activity there is. Is that your first time you get hit by a car? Yeah, that's the first time I've been hit by a car.

But most, you know, down in Miami is a little dangerous, man. You know, everybody, it's almost country down here, and everybody's in a hurry and on their phones. So, you know, it's, your antenna is always up down here. But unfortunately, man, I couldn't get out of the way. I was going too fast. And, you know, he just didn't see me at all. I mean, I think there's YouTube clips all over of people getting hit down in Florida on bikes. I know that's a thing. Jimmy, okay, so can you walk us through what all the things you fly,

jump out of, scuba dive in, what your plans are for next year, what your plans are with the boat? Can you just take us through a little bit of all your aviation specialty and the helicopters and aerobatics and float planes and everything you have? Yeah, well, I've, you know, like during my career, I always wanted to stay focused and, you know, always wanted to kind of challenge my've uh uh you know like during my career i always wanted to stay focused and and you know always wanted to kind of challenge my mind and and you know challenge challenge everything outside of football you know because during the season you're locked into that but in the off season you have all this time so uh for the first 10 years of my career i got i got 10 different

licenses so you know i'm a commercial helicopter commercial multi single engine i'm a seaplane pilot aerobatic pilot. And so, you know, I fly a little bit of everything. You know, I'll do air shows eventually one day and just a few a year. And and, you know, obviously I fly myself everywhere. I got the seaplane and and then obviously the helicopter for the foundation. I rebuild a Huey from the Vietnam War. So we take up underprivileged kids. We expose them to the STEM program, to the aerospace technology program and the jobs that are provided there. And obviously our big goal,

as well as taking up veterans of any war, especially Vietnam, and just thanking them for their service. Jeez, Ty Schmidt has something for you, Jimmy. Yeah, Jimmy, I'm a big time Packers fan. And while you were on the Packers, I was one of those dipshits who I'd like to see your Instagram

and be like, geez, all this guy cares about is flying planes. Like I want him to catch more touchdowns. But then as I keep like looking at your Instagram and stuff like that and see like the kind of pilot you are, it's like, holy shit, this guy's amazing. He might be the most interesting human being on the planet. Um, so when did you like initially know you wanted to get into all this kind of stuff? Cause I feel like you don't just wake up one morning and be like, hey, you know, I want to start piloting planes and jumping out of planes. And as you got better at it and like got more hours in the sky,

is that when you kind of decided like, I think I'm going to hang it up? Because I feel like with how big you are and how athletic you are, like you could have played another five to ten years. Yeah, yeah. You know, I mean, I was still thinking about playing last year and ended up turning down a couple of teams because, you know, for me it's about the right situation, you know i mean i was still thinking about playing last year and ended up turning down a couple teams because you know for me it's about the right situation you know and and the ability to mentor some young guys and and obviously just to just catch phase in the red zone because uh you know i've always been pretty good at that but um this all started when i was a young kid

man i uh watched the movie top gun and got obsessed with it and and then um you know basically when i went to the league i just saw it it as, you know, you know, now I have every, every opportunity to make every dream come reality, man. And, and you know, I just chased after every dream I ever had. And you know, I'm still doing that. You know, I, I saved actually the water for retirement because at the time, all the workouts I was doing, I mean, I was completely obsessed during my career with trying to be in shape and being strong and just trying to maximize my potential that I had no room for anything else. I basically had, you know, training, flying and basically taking care of my dog, you know, just making sure she was good. But so now that I'm, you know, looking to retire, now I have this

whole new avenue, kind of this whole new area to push my mind, push my body. Obviously, my end goal here is I'm living on a sailboat now, and I'm doing that so I can learn quicker. I've got some pretty good mentors to teach me how to fix everything. That's the biggest thing is when you're trying to get around the world, you've got to be the mechanic. You've got to be obviously the sailor. You've got to be the mechanic. You've got to be obviously the sailor. You've got to be the cook. You've got to be kind of the fix-it-of-all, and you have to really understand those because there's parts of the world that are – there's really no help, and it can be extremely dangerous.

So that's the process I'm going through now, and that'll eventually – I'm hoping to eventually fly around the world and then sail around the world solo and really test myself in many ways. Well, this guy, Boston Conner, I don't know if he's going to do that, but he has a question for you, Jimmy. Yeah, Jimmy, I do. First thing, that video of you with Simple Man playing in the background, I think you had some cool Oakley shades on.

Need some more of those. I probably watched that video 15, 20 times at once because it was so cool. So maybe run those back. You mentioned Top Gun. Have you met Tom Cruise and have you also maybe been reached out to, like, hey, we need a 6'8 pilot who also, you know, like skull crushes someone because something gets mixed up while they're trying to land the plane?

Have you been approached to play any roles as far as, you know, a pilot or now a sailor go? You know, not yet. When I roles as far as, you know, a pilot or now a sailor go? You know, not yet. When I was a little younger, you know, I kind of stayed away from a lot of stuff. You know, I was off for a couple roles and, you know, just kind of stay focused on me. But, you know, obviously, you know, being bald and 6'7", you know, everybody always says that I should be the rocks. Yeah. You know, his stunt double because I can actually do all those things.

So we'll never know. But actually, how about, you know, I'm actually building a hangar, which will be done soon. I actually own part of a runway. So the runway is in my backyard. Of course. So I actually take off and fly from my backyard now. And if you guys want to sometime during the season, man, we should get something together. You know, try to get try to get an episode and just air it from my backyard now. And if you guys want to, sometime during the season, man, we should get something together. You know, try to get an episode

and just air it from my hangar. And then I'll take up everybody in the helicopter. I'll take up some foresail in the aerobatic plane, and I'll show you how to flip a plane. Can we... Hey, can you take us in the helicopter? Can we... I know the doors usually open like you're flying through Vietnam.

Can we jump out into the ocean and do all those kind of things uh we'll we'll see the thing is uh there's a lot of rules when it comes to aviation so you need you need quite a bit of permits for certain things but i can guarantee in their lagoon we can find where no one's at there are but i would get in trouble just you know being a commercial pilot and everything but you know i mean i'll take you guys downtown for lauderdale and we'll land on a building and go to Los Olos and, like, eat breakfast or something. And we can, like, sprint out like we're landing somewhere. Go, go, go, go, go! Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Exactly. Hey, Jimmy, Pac-Man Jones has something for you. Hey, Jimmy, I'm a fan of yours, man. I want to talk about the Pro Bowl and first ballot Hall of Fame. I think you should get in. You got, what, five Pro Bowls, one All-Pro, first team, two All-Pro, second team. You got, what, 82 touchdowns over 9,000 yards.

How do you think you fit on that ballot? Do you think you're first ballot, second ballot? We definitely know you're going. Honestly, you know, man, I guess throughout my career, you career you know man i caught a little bit of hate especially at the end man you know i i don't think people realize how difficult it was to to get over that knee injury man it took me a couple years to really battle to get over it um and and uh you know for me man i don't know you know it's it's you know i mean i know i've always been kind of a kind of a private person which sometimes doesn't help out and you know

i've i've always been kind of living in the shadows and really not diving into all the politics and, you know, all the fandom of it. But, you know, man, I hope one day that my name's called, man. And, you know, obviously, man, I had the opportunity to battle against guys like you. You know, I'll never forget, you know, going into Cincy and, you know, just leaving there just beat up because, man, all you guys are so physical, man. I remember you hit me low probably three times in the game and i thought i wasn't gonna be able to walk again so uh but i appreciate all the battles i really do tone digs what do you got yeah jimmy we're arguing this yesterday i don't know if it's argument we were talking about it yesterday

um what's the route for when we're going around the world uh sailing are we going to magellan we're going down in antarctica which what's the route from when we go around the world uh sailing are we going to magellan how long are we going down in antarctica which what's the route from when we go around the world yeah so the only way around the world is down you know you got to go down it's in the southern ocean so uh that's that's really the most dangerous part of the world because it's where the winds go around the world unimpeded so you know on a daily basis down there you have swells of 40 feet um and and so it can be extremely dangerous extremely windy and and really the further south you go um the faster you'll go but you'll start to run into icebergs um so that's not a bigger issue you have everything in the world why why are we playing

truth to dare here you got an engine right i mean like you got a motor when you can't sail right like when you yeah but i mean the but I mean, right now I do. But the idea is this is the practice boat that I'm currently on right now. This is where I'm learning everything. And eventually I'm going to build a carbon, either cat or carbon monohull. And the idea is I want to get around the world fast. I want to go as fast as I can and try to do it. So once basically I leave from Miami, I won't touch land again.

So whatever I'm carrying on board is all that I'll have until I get back to Miami. So the idea is you, you know, you're not going to be running the motor regardless because you're going to need that fuel for maybe something else, you know, and, and it's actually cheating to run the motor. So for me, the idea is once you leave port here, there's no motor that's allowed to be run. Uh, uh, there's no motor that's allowed to be run. It's all by sale. So at times, yeah, I'll just be, you know, if I hit a low and win, then I'll be hanging out, probably some stuff at that point. But, you know, after that, then I'll probably get back on the horse. You know, there's a couple of there's a couple of things around the world.

There's a I've tracked this this one race called the Bondi Globe, which is a single handed race around the world. race called the bond a globe which is a single-handed race around the world i'm not a friend named alex who did it for uh hugo boss and he's i think he's been around the world you know eight nine times single-handed but there's been more people into space than i've been around the world single-handed and you know i feel like that's kind of a big test of you know myself you know a reflection being alone that long you know the ability to deal with some of my past and i i plan to write a book when i do it so it should be interesting hey uh jimmy so i don't even know this pat's at home with his new newborn baby i think he got so excited once he saw you on here i think he might be on uh he might be on the

line here pat what's up what do you got for jimmy jimmy uh am i dead jimmy hey baby's here i'm gonna let you know i hope she goes on to become 160th of you know all the things you have become in license 10 years 10 different licenses absolutely bananas listening to the sailboat conversation and you inviting us to your hangar in your backyard and you said i'll show you how to flip a plane it's like i'm good you know like let's keep the plane keep the plane the way it is but i would definitely come we would love to come down and i know the boys answered that i would just like to reiterate the fact like we need to make that happen like let's actually make that happen and do that you are maybe the most fascinating human on earth you said next football season we're coming down and do that

when are you going to sail you might answer this in a delay from the TV to my phone. When are you setting sail? How long does it take? And like, are people going to be able to come visit you? Or I heard the tail end of your answer there. Is this like a darkness retreat for you? Like, sounds like it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I mean, it's a little bit of that, you know, I mean, obviously I think everybody knows that I went through a lot of the child. And, you know, there's I think I've been so busy up until this moment trying to change my narrative, trying to get out of get out of where I was and try to become something that I really haven't had a chance to reflect on some of those things. And and so, you know, there's there's nothing like being in the middle of the ocean at night alone. That'll that'll stir up some feelings.

Jimmy, that's a nightmare. No, no, no. Well, everything I do is calculated risk. And so that's why I'm taking my time now to learn. You know, that's why I'm on this boat right now. I plan to do it when I'm 40, actually, because I've got to build a carbon fiber boat to do it. This boat, I'm going to take over to Europe at some point. Right now, I'm going to, you know, I'm in the Bahamas.

Forge the river, dude. Forge the river. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to go down to Argentina because I want to learn Spanish. So I might go down there for like a month or two. Why not? Do a lingo, too. You could use.

Yeah. Rosetta Slotik. Well, it's a little easier if you're just living in it. Yeah, I guess. Hey, are you on your You could use. Yeah. Rosetta Sloan. Well, it's a little easier if you're just living in it. Yeah, I guess. Hey, are you on your phone right there, or is this your computer? This is my phone right now. Can you show us a little bit of the interior of that deal, of your boat? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That carbon fiber. Yes. So this is your trainer boat, you said. I got to tell. So this is the practice boat. Let's see here. So this is the practice boat. It's a nice-ass practice boat. Damn. Oh, no, no, no. It's nice. It's nice. I mean. Let's see here. So this is the practice boat. It's a nice-ass practice boat.

Damn. Oh, no, no, no. It's nice. It's nice. I mean, it's very nice. Here's like one of the rooms. Dang. How's the weather in the Caribbean right now, the Bahamas?

Well, Miami's beautiful. So it's always beautiful. They can go down there. Oh, okay. Wait, so you're going to build a monohull? Right now, no, Miami. You're not building a, like we were watching that race yesterday in San Francisco. Yeah.

You're going to build something like those boats? No, no, those are. Big catamarans. Those are bay. Yeah, but those are bay racers. So those can't leave and go to the open ocean. They'll like break apart in the open ocean basically. Yeah, those things are basically F1 race cars.

So like an f1 race car can't leave a track if you put that on the road just a little bump it'll shatter probably front suspension it's kind of the same with those bay racers uh so this one will be monohull but most likely a catamaran because those go a little faster uh these carbon cats now are unbelievably fast they have dagger dagger boards for stability. And like I was in a carbon cat last year made by HH Catamarans that went. It was a 50-footer and we went

24 knots on the open ocean. I know a 60-footer will probably go somewhere between 30 to 34 knots. So for me, I want to do it. I don't want to take my time and I want to have a good time and go fast, fast obviously are you making so those things make their own water and everything you get out in the middle middle of the ocean can you desalination plant in there

yeah yeah there's a water maker um you know i'll have about four five six sails on board um you know i'll have uh parts to everything you'll be fishing for food at times yeah yeah yeah i'm yeah i'll be trolling and and uh that's one of the things that's going to take the longest is you know just trying to understand uh nutrition wise how to do that because i'm so big and i eat so many i mean i probably eat i probably eat two whole chickens a day and i've been doing that for 20 years so i don't know so i you know i've got to figure out just how to carry all that protein so oh i don't know if we if I didn't hear you or not. Have you ever met Tom Cruise?

No, not yet. I've been, you know, it's been a dream. And, you know, I mean, I know he's got his own hangar. I know he's got a P-51. And, you know, obviously I'm in that Warbird community as well. So I'm looking forward to meeting him, man, because he does everything. You know, he's always been a big mentor, you know, as far as, you know, the things that he's done through his career and his life, you know, always challenging himself and always, you know, making sure that

he's the one that's doing it. So, you know, I mean, I've always looked up to that, obviously. And, you know, that's why I said where I'm at today. Is there like a, is there like a crew? Is there like a, like a celebrity civilian pilots thing like you and harrison ford and travolta we know tom cruise he's kind of his own planet you guys ever get you guys ever rub elbows like eaa up there at oshkosh yeah i mean uh there's a lot of guys uh a lot of good people at eaa up at oshkosh um and that's usually where it all goes down you know i'm i'm friends with uh you know the greatest aerobatic pilots ever lived. Sean, Sean D. Tucker, as far as air shows. And then obviously Rob Holland is our world champion. But everybody basically in that community, especially the Warburg community, we're all pretty close.

You know, we all know each other. We all do charity events together. And we all look to give to each other's charities as far as like rides and as far as favors for kids and for veterans. So, um, you know, obviously Harrison Ford was a co-chairman of young Eagles, uh, before I was, and then before him was Sully. So, you know, I've had the opportunity to meet, uh, to be both those guys. And, uh, you know, obviously right, right. When we all get together, we just tell pilot stories, you know, we just talk about, you know, all the, all the weird, uh, things that we went through and just, just some, some close calls we've had, you know, we just talk about, you know, all the all the weird things that we went through and just just some some close calls we've had.

You know, obviously, I've flown across the country. I've probably done it about 10 times now in an old war plane. So when you're doing that low level, you're going to you know, you're going to you're going to experience some things. I remember I brought the I brought the Huey up to Green green Bay that took me 16 hours of flying. I stopped every two hours and I brought it up to fly Aaron Rogers. So, uh, you know, it was a, it was a special trip, man. And obviously worst, it was worth all the fuel, uh, you know, to be able to fly with him and, you know, to kind of share everything that I've been working on, um, for the last decade with him.

That's awesome. Connor, what do you have? Yeah, Jimmy. So you're going to sail around sail around the world you're gonna fly around the world you were just talking about how you do the uh cycling with some of those other guys have you thought about doing like a cycle across america or across europe or any other countries or are you gonna worry about that once you dominate the ocean no no so um that's also a part of kind of a little piece of it too is it is uh i've actually got a race next month uh myself and luke wilson you know uh he was my boy in seattle and now he's training to try to make the olympics in the velodrome uh on the track on a bike so basically it's like a um it's like a round oval track where it's all basically it's wood floor,

and you're on a bike that has one gear, no brakes, and you basically are sending the bike as hard as you humanly possibly can. And it's, I mean, obviously it's very dangerous. Luke Wilson, the tight end from Seattle. Yeah. That Luke Wilson. He's trying to get in the Olympics. Do you think he has a shot?

Yeah. For sure. Like 100%. I mean, he has a great chance because like for example uh like when it comes to sprinting or when it comes to um kind of these short punches a guy like me and luke we all have uh a max 2 000 watts you know like my my max wattage is 2 000 so when you're doing a sprint and when you're racing short like that you're just dumping what you have and most cyclists they'll max out at like pro cyclists max out at 1500 watts you know but we've been lifting big

weights since we're 14 and you know as you know power cleaning uh box you know box squats and stuff we just have that that power in our legs already so you're able to just send a bike especially when you do it on a track on a track track, there's no wind. There's nothing. All those elements are taken out of it. I mean, they're just wrecking into the guys next to you going 85 miles an hour with no brakes, right? Unfortunately, that's the problem. Like, he fell off, like, last week and just got dusted.

I mean, but he's fine. You know, obviously, we're built for that shit, you know, so. Yeah, I guess now, last thing before we go i know you you're a skydiver too right are you an instructor when it comes to skydiving no not yet um how many how many jumps right now no i've only got about 100 jumps um you know it's it was something where i had to kind of park that yeah oh yeah well kind of the craziest story i've never told this but you know i i can now that i'm retiring. Yes. So I get to Seattle.

I'm traded for a first-round pick, Max Unger, the whole thing. I move all the way across the country. I know nobody. I don't know what's going on. I had a really close mentor pass away, and then week 10, I blow my knee up. And I rubbed my patella 10, and they're telling me, you'll never play again. And, you know, I blow my knee up and I rubbed my patella tendon and they're telling me you'll never play again and you know I see my future I see this I see so much that I'd worked for just falling away um so that offseason um you know I'm grinding to get back obviously I uh after that season I missed no games you know I came back nine months later which was almost impossible

I played with the incomplete patella for a year and a half. And, um, but before that season started, um, because I had always done something new every off season, I just, I was like going crazy, man. Like I couldn't deal with the fact that I wasn't learning anything. So, uh, two weeks before the season started, before I was cleared to even run or play, um, that's when I went and got my skydive license. So I jumped out of a plane, uh, with, and because I'm so big, I can't go tandem. So the first time I jumped out, it's called the AFF program. And it's an accelerated program.

You do eight hours of ground school. And then the next day you go out and you jump out of a plane with people holding on to you. So I did I did those two jumps. And then I went to the season, man. And I just felt fulfilled after that. And then, you know, obviously made the Pro Bowl that year limping around. So, you know, it was definitely blessed. And you didn't let the Seahawks know now they know.

Oh, now they know. But, but, but trust me, trust me, Pete. Obviously we saw John Snyder this weekend, man. It was awesome to see him at the Derby, man. He's just like one of the best ever do it. And obviously he's like a player's GM. So is he. He's a player's coach, man. And so they already knew I was kind of crazy, man.

I was flying into work every day anyway. Yeah, you were flying. So you landed your float plane, right? You had a float plane. It's on floats. You land it there, and they have a dock right by the facility. How does that work? Yeah, so my first week in the building, John Nordstrom,

he used to own the team. He sold it to his friend, Paul Allen, where he shows up to the building and he says, I hear you're a pilot. And I'm like, yeah, man, he's like, have you ever done the sea plane stuff? And I said, no, I've been waiting. So his plane was outside on the dock. So we hopped in his plane and, uh, we went on a tour of Seattle and then I got my sea plane license the next weekend. So next weekend. So after that, you know, I started flying with him probably every two weeks. I pick him up at his house. He picked me up on my house and we go get some food, man.

He was a great mentor when it comes to seaplanes. But I started because I live at the top of Lake Juanita. So it took me 45 minute flight drive to get there. But it was a five minute flight. So, yeah, but I used to do like a live story, and I used to just fly into work. And then on Monday and Tuesdays, that's how all the foundation stuff started. I was flying wounded warriors from the facility. So on Mondays and Tuesdays after the game, we would bring in wounded warriors,

and then I would give them a tour, and I'd take them up in a seaplane flight and teach them how to fly. And then I'd send them to the jury with a couple helmets. So that's how that all started, really. That's sweet. That's dope. That's a pretty nice experience. I know I see you flying the kids around, too, and the Huey, the giant helicopter.

You can't sneak in anywhere there. I would imagine flying into Green Bay, wherever you're trying to land and fuel up. I mean, didn't the whole town come out, I would imagine, and just surround you wherever you go? Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, it't the whole town come out, I would imagine, and just surround you wherever you go? Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, it definitely is a showstopper, man. You can hear the thing from 10 miles away. Every time I go up and fly down Miami Beach here, I probably get 100 text messages and about 10 videos of me doing it. But, you know, man, everything we're doing with that is, you know, to service our kids, man, to service our future and our veterans, man.

So I want to make sure that all you boys get out, you come this flight with me i'm telling you it's unbelievable uh ask aaron obviously he's been on the flight it's it's it's it's a different level um people really don't understand i mean this thing is beautiful but also the sounds of it they strapped in jimmy oh yeah that couple strapped in right there oh no no everybody, no. Everybody's strapped in. Actually, that guy right there in that door, he was put on three tours in Vietnam and won a Purple Heart in Vietnam. So, you know, we've had some special, special flights of our veterans, man. And, you know, obviously, I've had, like, full generations in there. And, you know, Vietnam Purple Heart guys crying and telling all these stories about being shot down and surviving in the jungle. It's pretty, pretty unbelievable.

Man, that can't be legal. You look like you're flying pretty low there in between buildings, Jim. Do you have to get a special clearance for that? No, no, no, no. Miami, Miami International below there. It's 500 feet or lower. You can't be over congested amount of people. There's all these little rules.

But we make sure we follow them because, you know, I've got to lead by example, man. People are, you know. And everybody knows it's you. Everybody sees the giant Huey that's completely over-performed. Jim Graham. Yeah, of course. That's not just some other helicopter up there in the sky. Last thing, quick, I know I already said something.

What do you think about the Derby? You enjoy the Derby? Like you said, you mentioned John Schneider. You got me thinking because it's so good to see guys like that when you get down there and you didn't know he'd be there. But, yeah, you mentioned John Schneider. You got me thinking because it's so good to see guys like that when you get down there and you didn't know he'd be there. But, yeah, you seem to know everybody, too. We're sitting at this table here.

Peyton's over there. There's all these people that do all kinds of stuff. Jimmy's just up and down the line people. Because I think it's also because you're such a giant human. They're like, what are you, sir? And then he goes, he usually knows. He has a connection with most of them. Like he's, oh, yeah, well, yeah.

I actually shared an Uber with him back in 07 we stayed three nights in fiji and i flew him out like that's usually what happens but yeah it seemed like you have a good time out there yeah you know man i'm a big avatar man so everybody kind of you know gravitate towards me man but uh um you know it's it's it was unbelievable being back with the guys being back with you man being back with the crew uh obviously uh shout out to aaron man for you know inviting all of us and getting us all back together you know that was that's probably the first time since since i've been out of the locker room where i felt like i was back at home you know back with family back with the boys you know being able to share the moments man smoke some cigars uh obviously drink a lot of tequila but uh man it

it was uh unbelievable and and uh man i hope we get to do it every year because, you know, there's not a better weekend. I agree, man. Thank you so much for coming on here. I know yesterday we kind of – I was glad you weren't, like, hiding from somebody. I thought, hey, man, all of a sudden I guess they sent me a TMZ story that we were talking about.

I was like, man, what if Jimmy told a couple people he's not in Miami right now? What if Jimmy told some people he's, like, wherever? And now we put him on the news getting hit by a car. So, thanks, man. Really appreciate it. We absolutely need to figure it out and take you up on that, get down to your hangar, ride around the helicopter. Absolutely.

I promise none of us probably will not jump out into the ocean if you're like 50 feet up, 30 feet up. But we'll do everything by the rules. We appreciate it, man. Thanks for coming on, Jimmy. Appreciate it, brother. Thanks for having me, man. I'll see you guys this season.

All right. Jimmy Graham, ladies. Jimmy! Yeah. That's dope. That fucking guy is amazing. Jimmy appreciate it brother thanks for having me man I'll see you guys this season all right Jimmy Graham lady yeah amazing a little bit everything holy shit charity flies what he's flying all these kids around and vets and different things and I mean the hell I need to see it in person but like a Huey it's absolutely gigantic I remember he was sending me pictures throughout when he was refurbishing and redoing the whole thing. I was like, it's so big. It's like, have you seen We Were Soldiers from Mel Gibson?

Yeah, it's him. With snakes flying. Yeah, exactly. Like, it's ridiculous. Do you think he'd let us, like, mount a.50 cal out the side? I mean, so that – Look at the jet skis. Honestly, I'm not going to lie.

And I know we're still in the air, but we were on the air. I think Jimmy obviously falls – he's the most – like, I know we're still in the air, but we were on the air. I think Jimmy obviously falls. He's the most, like, I would feel very safe with him, but he's very by the rules. I think we could jump out of there without him getting in too much trouble. Oh, Jimmy, what's that? Look out. Look out to your left.

Boom. We just lost Con Man. If we see Gabbert, like, down there on a jet ski, so we know if we get knocked unconscious, yeah, he'll save us. Yeah. So he's insanely intelligent, too, because you've got to be like a mechanic and, like, know how to do all this shit. He can knock unconscious. Yeah, he'll save us. Yeah. So he's insanely intelligent, too. Yeah, he is. You got to be like a mechanic and know how to do all this shit.

It's not just for his planes. And actually have like the, you know, I think at least I'm guilty of it, where you get into something like this, I'm all in, and then he just fizzles out and you don't really follow through. Like Jimmy looks like, hey, what I plan on doing, I'm going to follow through. Yeah, exactly. I'm going to be very good. I mean, he's not collecting baseball cards.

You can't really fizzle out when you're fucking flying planes and helicopters. If he's in the middle of the Arctic, though, and that water thing goes out on the boat and he has no fresh water, he has to fix that. Yeah, exactly. That's kind of a scary thought, isn't it? It is. Him also saying that there's been less people to do solo trips around the world in a boat than there are that have been to space.

Are we including Bill Shatner? Bill Shatner, yeah. He technically went to space, didn't he? Yeah, it ruined his life. His best friend that went around the world, I mean, nine times. What's clarified going by yourself? Can another

person be on another boat? Can you have a trail boat with you? I don't know. I don't think so. If they do, you probably can't have any contact can you have a trail boat with you? I don't know. I don't think so. I think it's all solo. If they do, you probably can't have any contact with them. I doubt a trail boat's going. Because he said it. I have to fix everything. And you can't start the motors. You can't start the motors. Which is crazy.

So he's not even pulling into a dock. He'll never see land in that whole trip. No, he's not even bringing... He won't even have a motor on his boat. Oh, is that what he said? Yeah. Now that's super scary. He said if there was no wind or anything, I'll just be hanging out in the ocean. Yeah. And he said he'll have eight sails, so if a sail rips, because obviously that happens.

But you're right. What if your water maker goes out? I hate to say it, too. Is he afraid of pirates at all? Is pirates still a thing? I don't know. Somalia. I don't know if they're coming after him.

They try to take over big tankers so they can hold them ransom. They give us five mil. Yeah, but you never know. You might be on the wrong day. Absolutely. It's a possibility. You know what? Let's go fuck up a catamaran.

He's going to have a small arsenal on the boat, I would hope. Just like a con air. There's a small arsenal in the belly of the plane. He could bring a football and throw it through one of their fucking little boats like a mortar and sink them. Can you imagine if he just stood up? He came from underneath. He was in the boat and all of a sudden like, oh, there's some pirates pulling up. And Jimmy just pops up from the stairs and like, who is it? Like you imagine if he just stood up he came from underneath he was in the boat and all of a sudden like oh there's some pirates pulling up and jimmy just pops up from the

stairs and like who like you said he's a giant he just keeps going and going he's so then he just fires a football off their face and then one day he falls in jack and the beanstalk i'll tell you what ty you mentioned a little bit but boy do you owe that man some apologies you got some sorries to say to him oh yeah and i i tried to like i said i mean but that it really was i mean i think you guys kind of all saw it in real time like when he was with the packers it was like you know and and he kind of said he was like during the season it's not it was basically football and flying but you know and i guess if you think about it too it's like you guys playing in the league it's like you're not playing and then like posting highlights from

yourself like on your instagram like that's pretty like guys who are in the league some guys do nowadays maybe but but yeah i mean he is legitimately maybe the most interesting man in the world yeah and i didn't realize my highlights sorry no i mean you got a lot of them i'm just saying like but i posted you got a lot of them you're playing offense defense but i didn't know his knee was that fucked up like yeah when did he do that? He was 15. It was rough. I know it was a bad one. It was 15.

Right before. That was before the Packers. Because Pack was taking his knees every time. That was the only year he didn't make Pro Bowl. I remember that because he was unbelievable. He did a Taurus Patel. Yeah, that's what he said. Nasty.

And then he played a year and a half with half of a Patel. Like, what the? Made a Pro Bowl. Yeah, made the Pro Bowl in that year and a half. Lamped around. Also, he referenced it a couple times. I'm not going to ask you. I'm just going to look it up later.

I didn't realize he had a difficult childhood because he mentions twice. Growing up, obviously, wasn't easy for him. So that makes sense. He's a private person as well because you wouldn't know any of the shit that he's doing because you don't see it ever. Yeah, even though we found a few videos and they had some cool GoPro videos of him doing the aerobatic stuff, for what he's doing, he does not post enough. No, exactly. He should have a full-time videographer with him that edits everything he does.

I'm like, even if you just want the footage, Jimmy, and you don't want to post it, you should pay to have somebody film all this and just have it. So, like, what if you do have kids someday or what if you just want to look back and be like, that was pretty cool. What about setting an example for somebody else? Like he said, that guy set an example for him all that that he's doing bro that that take a special person oh yeah mentally and physically because if you want to go around the world by yourself you got to be fucking mentally strong i do not want to go around the world by myself he should set up gopros around the entire boat like i don't know why he does he films most of he just doesn't put it put it together okay because yeah he always he knows because i've told him this for

years i'm like man what are you talking about film this put this out i have the footage man like a documentary about him doing uh entire solo like mission around the world you gotta he has to film all that i'm sure he has a plan for that i mean right in a book too that's not a bad idea. I would puke so fast. Would you do that? I see. I've gone up with the Blue Angels and the Thunderbirds, like in fighter jets,

and puked the whole time. But I loved it. I would do it. See, Jimmy keeps trying to get me to go in this. That's his float plane, but his aerobatic deal and do all the flips. And I'm like, man, I'm a puker, Jim. I'm not kidding. That video, and we talked about it yesterday,

that video of him playing simple man with the Oakleys on or whatever the hell they were, just doing spins and shit. There it is. There's me, Pac. That was me. I puked about 90 seconds after. No, maybe four minutes after that I puked and kept puking. They were just fucking with you too, right, when you go over these guys?

No, I mean, no, they were very responsive. They were cool actually. But there's certain maneuvers you want to hit. There's all these maneuvers you want to hit where you pull 7, 8 G's or whatever and all this stuff. You know for sure they all have bets. Like, oh, we're going to have all puke. It was like, oh, first time. And I knew going in, like I've seen other people

go into it and they're like, hey, oh, I got a rock stomach. I'm such, I'll never puke. I went in the first thing, I was like, I puke puke in the car guys like i if i look at my phone in the back seat i'll puke when my mom's driving so i'm just telling you i'm probably gonna puke and they were they were trying to give me all the tips and tricks of what to do i was like sounds great sounds great and then you take that vertical takeoff yeah there's no all of a sudden i don't know which way is up and there's a canopy and the sun feels like it's 16,000 degrees. Right here.

This is it, Pac. I got to unstrap my deal. I remember after I... Oh, brother. So after I puke... Where do you puke? They had like the dog poop bag next to me, you know? But you're super cramped in.

Like that's also what's really tough and claustrophobic. You start puking, and I start puking like... I'd say, yeah, 90 seconds after we took off, I had my first puke. And I took it off,rophobic you start puking and i start puking like i'd say yeah 90 seconds after we took off i had my first puke and i took it off and i remember i puked and i asked the pilot i'm like where should i put this bag man and he's like tie it off and put it in your uh cargo pants pocket because you you wear this flight suit with the thunderbirds and you have cargo pants so i tied it off put it in my bag or put it in my pocket puked probably four more times and then as soon as i landed, I was ghost white sick. They have all the local media there because they do this to promote the air show and whatever's coming.

So I had to stand there, like, shaking and try to answer questions after I just puked for 45 straight minutes. That's absurd. I puke when I go to the carnival. You know they got a little thing going on. I can't do that. I'm sorry. No, no chance. I mean, that's why.

That's why the boat. Imagine how sick you'd a little thing going on. I can't do that. I'm sorry. No, no chance. I mean, that's why... That's why the boat. Imagine how sick you'd be sailing around the world. 40 foot swells. Not 40 mile an hour wind. He said 40 foot swells. That's massive. Perfect storm. Not only is it scary, it's very... Makes me nauseous thinking of it. And I didn't want to ask

him because I didn't want to send out any bad juju. Has he seen A Perfect Storm? Has he seen some of the movies where these things don't go well because of massive storm? But that's also technology. I assume he has. Now they can see it far in advance. Yeah, he probably has a

Doppler or a radar. They have everything. They got the Darnot special, I heard. That's the conversation he was saying he would have with all his buddies, how they talk about, oh, shit, that was a close call right there. Oh, that was worse than it got. All right. This is Joe.

You know about Joe, don't you, Pat? Yeah, I know about Joe. How long after you entered the Thunderdome did you learn about Joe? Day one. Okay. This picture. So for whatever reason, where I sit at home, it's still funny here. But I don't know why.

We'll just be having normal conversations, and you guys pop this picture up in the background. I can't handle it at home because you guys are dead serious if we have this picture of what's possible. Yeah, what do you mean? Yes, I know, and I'm happy. Love you, Joe. Thank you, Joe. His family has to be so pumped.

I just hope they have seen the pub that Joe Denard gets. There's a bunch of stuff actually on the front of seen it. Mm-hmm. Do they know? There's a bunch of stuff actually on the front of the desk. Wouldn't that make you feel good if your dad passed or your grandpa had passed? And a pretty popular program continues to show him and has a shirt here. Keep popping this out. We do continue to chomp you, but the city of Pittsburgh has been chomping him for a long time. Have they? Thank you, Joe.

So it's not just you guys. You speak for the whole city. No, we're the only city in the entire country where we knew exactly what the weather was going to be 24-7. It's true. Because of one name. I don't know. AQ would.

AQ's a fucking liar. Yeah, AQ doesn't know. And a scumbag. Easy. He would read the news wrong. That was AQ's fault. Yes. I think AQ's very intelligent.

Me too. Not when it comes to weather. Doesn't meanQ's wrong. You think? Yes. I think AQ's very intelligent. Me too. Not when it comes to weather. Doesn't mean he's a fucking meteorologist. You think you could beat him in an MMA match? No, absolutely not. No. AQ is a thick son of a bitch. I mean, you said it. That head of his and anybody. And his arms, his punch, like his just initial punch

would knock me through a brick wall if I was just standing here. It did knock me through a brick wall. My back hurt for like eight weeks after the draft. Did you catch it on the draft night when you were talking about his head and he bonked his head on the microphone? No. He did. He gave it one of those.

Like he was pumped, like a confirmation? I don't know if it was draft night. It was when he was on here. That was like a little fist, like here, here, here. There we go. Oh, good. It might have been draft day. I saw Nate Diaz's fight in Jake Paul.

Oh, yeah. Boxing match. Did you also see that he thought that was Logan Paul that he jumped out of New Orleans? Yeah. Oh, he said he thought it was? He was like, quit playing with me. That was Logan. Oh, I didn't see that.

I know they said Logan Paul looked like he'd strangle. I didn't think Nate thought it was Logan. Nate still thinks it's Logan. Still. Nate's awesome. He also found out that you're not allowed to smoke weed in Texas and box, so they're trying to figure that out right now as Logan. Nate still thinks it's Logan. Still. Nate's awesome. He also found out that you're not allowed to smoke weed in Texas and box, so they're trying to figure that out right now as well. So when's the fight? August?

I have no idea. August, is it in Texas? Yeah, it's in Texas. Where? Dallas, right? Austin? Like, is it in a big arena, or what is it? Quite sure. Yeah, I think it's in Who's going to win, Pac? I'm going with Nate Diaz. I mean, I'm not taking – I wouldn't pick – I mean, I'd take the Diaz brothers over a lot of people.

Probably won shit in the last two fights, haven't we? Who did Jake – Jake got a loss of the decision. He just got his air, boy. Lost the decision, right? Yeah. How was that? I didn't see much of it. He got his air.

I'll be watching Nate Diaz fight, though. Yeah, I'll absolutely watch Diaz. I think Ariel Hawani's part of the coverage, isn't he? Wasn't he part of the presser? Yeah, he has been for a while. Yeah, August'll absolutely watch DS. I think Ariel Hawani's part of the coverage, isn't he? Wasn't he part of the presser? Yeah, he has been for a while. Yeah, August 5th. So most viable promotions. Where is it?

Oh, live on pay-per-view. Okay. It's not like Cowboy Stadium, obviously, but it's got to be somewhere. So that one stage when he choked the shit out of his brother? No, that was like. They pressed charges on him. Did he get off, though? I'm not sure.

Trying to say he was protecting himself? I did see how Logan's actually giving his lawyers to the lookalike guy. I saw that. I saw it happening, but I didn't see what the result was. That sounds like a work. I think that dude was out cold. No, he definitely was. Yeah, it sounds like he worked himself into a shoot.

Yeah, he could be right. Brother. We're going to actually open up the phone lines, guys. We haven't done that in the last couple days. Did Ian go to the phones at all? No, no, no. He did not want to talk to... He called them poppers, remember?

Yeah, he was like, I don't want to talk to the pours on the phone. Is that where you guys got that name? That word, popper? It was actually kind of fucked up. No. Is this a real thing you guys are messing with? No, I didn't actually say that, but that's how the word got brought up when we were talking about it earlier in the week. Oh, okay. Do you know what the

phone number is for people that want to call into the 5-Hour Energy phone line? 1-833-432-3663. I'm going to try to go out real quick. Oh, I was right. Come on now. Curtis in Illinois. What's on your mind, pal? Hey, what's going on, guys? I just got to say, y'all are dogs,

right? Hey, I just want to let you guys know, have you guys heard of disc golf? I know y'all golf all the time. Like disc golf. Yeah, golf. Frisbee golf? Yeah, frisbee golf. Disc golf. Yeah, are you a professional?

No, I'd love to be, though, but. We bang chains all the time, brother. Of course we do. Do you guys have? And thank you for the time, brother. Of course we do. Do you guys have – It wasn't 180 the other day. And thank you for the call, sir. Do you – Honestly, I was driving last night.

No. With my son. I want to play – I want to be a better proffer. I was driving by a park. Say that to your son. I was driving – Yeah, he was –

I was like, man, we need to play. Because I had some Frisbees that I – I love throwing Frisbee. I always – Well – I want to actually compete. This isn't just throwing Frisbees. You know what I'm talking about, Tony?

Yes, I do. Oh, yes. Actually, it was, what, last week when Junior was in track practice, and I seen all these people, and one dude came out early. He's at the 50-yard line. I mean, these guys are legit. Literally, they were playing, like, leagues in Ohio. Ultimate is no joke, too.

That's like a workout, Ultimate Frisbee, isn't it? It's like flag football. What he was talking about was where they have certain... It's basically golf because they have driver... Oh, no. Yeah, I know. I know about that. You want me to bring my chains in tomorrow? I've almost bought the bag on Amazon. It's like the starter pack that tells you the different

Frisbees that are different weights that go... I got four little chains if you want me to bring them tomorrow. I actually got on Amazon a Frisbee golf hole that I set up in my yard. The only problem is it's cheap and it falls over all the time, so you don't really set that much. But it has the chains and everything. The college I had, or that I went to, had an entire 18-hole Frisbee golf course around So many parks in Ohio have it, Pac.

I would assume here, but if you look around, there's Frisbee golf holes everywhere. Yeah, it's a lot. It's a big sport. It's almost like, I would say it's bigger if you look around, there's prison golf holes everywhere. Yeah, it's a lot. It's a big sport. It's almost like, I would say it's bigger than the pickleball. Whoa. Pac-Man. I mean, pickleball's big. The property community is big.

It's different because they can go by yourself. I'm saying in Ohio. Oh, in Ohio? Every park, it seems like, has a whole course set up. I'd still just rather go play golf. Well, yeah, of course. And if it's nice out and I have the option, I'm never going to play golf ever. Some people cannot hit a fucking golf ball.

That's fine. So guess what they do? Flick of the wrist. I get it. But me personally, I could go shoot 190 on the golf course, and I'd still rather be doing that than playing frisbee. I'll be honest with you. Some people can't throw a frisbee.

True. And it's a lot harder than just chucking a frisbee to somebody. Absolutely. It's incredibly difficult. What about Bruce? Bruce Brown, I can't see through the window right now if you're back there, Bruce. I would imagine this is like a big coastal elitist type thing. No, I can't throw a frisbee. I've never played

disc golf. I'm a Thai golfer only. Yeah, I don't know. But Bruce is a great pickleball player, great tennis player. Yeah, can't throw a frisbee though. Those are things that he was probably doing instead of doing the frisbee. I don't know. But Bruce is a great pickleball player, great tennis player. Yeah, can't throw a Frisbee, though. Those are things that he was probably doing instead of doing the Frisbee. I don't know if it's a coastal elite thing. I think it's a big get stoned and be outside and throw the Frisbee. That's what it is.

A granola thing. Play hacky sack in between holes. Hacky sack, I'm down. You want to go throw a Frisbee. It's big in that world, Peck. I'd rather have a catch. Me too. Oh, my goodness. I was playing catch, actually, a big, it's a big, it's big in that world, Peck. You see, I'd rather have a catch. Me too. Oh, my goodness.

I was playing catch, actually, a couple days ago. I thought of you, because remember, I thought I wanted to bring gloves to Arizona so we could have a catch. And I was like, man, just took up too much space. Glove and ball. What do you mean? Yeah, catching. Yeah, baseball. Baseball.

My bad. Yeah, just having a catch, like in Sandlot. That's the best. His dad that he hates. Hey, I'll tell you what. I mean, you've talked about it a couple times. A lacrosse, having a catch in lacrosse is also very fun. Which is brand.

I hadn't done that until about a month and a half ago when all my kids just started playing lacrosse. You know about this game? It's fun, man. I knew about lacrosse. I knew about it. I didn't know. I didn't ever play it. I thought I saw today that there's a girl at Plum Senior High School

where Connor and I and Pat and Jake Gregg. Oh, she's a lacrosse stud, right? She has 13,000 goals or something like that. Evie, do we have any of that or a screenshot? She's a junior. From what I read, she scores 100 goals a game. Yeah, junior at Plum High School has 181 goals in her career, so she already set the record now.

We're all staying safe. That's crazy. I didn't even know they had a professional. Thank you for saying it right, AJ. And now Denver is a big-time lacrosse school here. Huge lacrosse. They're actually, I think, I forget when it was, but when they won the national championship,

they were the furthest west school after North Carolina to win the national championship. Because it's all along the east east coast and then all of a sudden Denver. Is there any other teams out there that are legit? California has grown. Notre Dame. Yeah, Notre Dame and Indiana, they're really good. They just never got it done. John Hopkins.

Baltimore. They're legit though, right? You're right. Don't get pissed. I would never test you on geography or when it comes to movies, talking about the plot or A, B, and C. Where would you say in the country we are right now? I mean, this is a game everybody plays. It's not the Midwest?

I would say it's definitely the Midwest. I would say it's the Midwest. Definitely the Midwest. What would you guys say? Midwest. We're a third. We're damn near in the middle of the country. We're a third of the country.

If you were to look at the entire country like this going right to left. What would you say Ohio is? We're at a third. Midwest. But that's an argument. Corey Linsley, the great center, always has with Aaron Rodgers. Aaron tries to tell him it's the Mideast. He calls it the Mideast.

I don't get why Pittsburgh's not Midwest. Why is Pittsburgh not? What's Pittsburgh considered? Technically, it's Mid-Atlantic. No one says Mid-Atlantic, though. Yeah, but PA, you're not going to say Pennsylvania. You're not going to say Pennsylvania

is Midwest. True. And they're in Pennsylvania. I guess especially because Philly's involved. You'd never think of Philly as Midwest. If you've ever been to Pittsburgh, we don't act like Midwesterners either. Yes, you guys certainly do, and you guys are a Midwest city for sure. Pittsburgh's its own country, I feel like. Pittsburgh is you guys are a Midwest city for sure. I feel like.

Pittsburgh is the Vatican. It's its own country. I've never been so mad at a human being in my life. Every Midwest city is relatively the same aside from Chicago. I'll say it. Is Chicago Midwest? I agree. Yes. Cincinnati, Detroit, Indianapolis, Pittsburgh.

No, look at the buildings. They're actually like old buildings that have character and stuff like that. In Pittsburgh, you mean? Yeah, they're not this flat bullshit. Is that Indiana? Yeah. Indiana is an extreme. Have you ever seen the Sears Tower?

That looks really good, bro. Come on, Pac. Come on, now. So that's what Nick... The Heinz factory. The OG Heinz factory. That shit looked like the backyard, bro. Who?

Yeah, row houses. Row houses and stuff like that. The Midwest doesn't have row houses and stuff like that. Yeah, the way they're not suburbs, but the housing area when you're driving around Pittsburgh, it's just like it is in Boston. Calling someone from Pittsburgh a Midwesterner is the greatest slap in the face you could ever give someone. Say in Mid-Atlantic, they would be offended, too. They just want to be known as Pittsburgh.

No, because that's actually correct. Yeah, Ocean Boy. What? It was the Atlantic. These are all these terms I don't know anything about. These are some slander you throw towards kids. Never call Pittsburgh Ocean Boy. If you want to get a fucking right to the face.

I saw Diggs. Diggs got some fire in his eyes when he heard that. Yeah, Atlantic boy. Jeez. Ty, is Iowa Midwest? Yes. Iowa is like the capital of the Midwest. Smack that.

I'd say Ohio is like the beginning. Then when does it go towards, what happens when you get towards the middle of the country? What do you call all those people? Kansas is still the Midwest. Okay, keep going. Nebraska is still the Midwest. Then you get to the Rockywest then you get to the mountain area it's just um not west coast but mountainous regions yeah yeah then then you're in the mountains and that's what like that's the dakotas yeah colorado montana wyoming all that yeah right here utah is there

like a hard and fast rule on where where can call, hey, this is the Midwest. This is East Coast. I think there's a perfect breakdown. Like Ohio to Nebraska. I would say the Dakotas are still in the Midwest. Yeah. So, yeah. Ohio to Nebraska.

That is the Midwest. Then we got the mountains in Montana, Wyoming, Colorado. I mean, North Dakota is basically Canada. Damn near. Basically. But you can't call it Midwest. It's so far north. Yeah, but South Dakota is part of the Midwest. You're pushing it. It's North Dakota is basically Canada. Damn near. Basically, but it's not. You can't call it Midwest. It's so far north. Yeah, but South Dakota is part of the Midwest.

You're pushing it. South Dakota is more like the ranch. You could say that's the Great Plains. There you go. Where's Mount Rushmore? North Dakota, South Dakota? It's in North Dakota. Okay, so yeah, North Dakota has to be Midwest.

It might be in South Dakota. They're the same state. Either way, they're the exact same state. It's an argument people have all the time. Oh, yeah, North Dakota has to be Midwest. Might be in South Dakota. Okay. They're the same state. I think it's South Dakota. Either way, they're the exact same state. It's an argument people have all the time. Oh, yeah. Geography's awesome. And then Michigan, you see the Yoopers, the Upper Peninsula up there in Michigan, right? Yeah.

Eddie, did you ever go there? Oh, yeah, all the time. That's basically Canada, if you really want to talk about it. They don't even got highways up there. Yeah. What a joke. Is there highways in Canada? It's fucking beautiful up there, though.

Yeah. I've been up there. Ty, you ever been up there? Of course. Upper Peninsula? AJ, a lot of Packer fans up there, not Lion fans. I didn't know about it until I got to Green Bay. And then I go, oh, there's some youpers.

And then we went up to the Upper Peninsula before my first training camp. I was like, this is amazing, man. The lake, the water. Lake Superior is amazing. Everything about it is really cool. The people are obviously super nice. Yeah, but then see, this is what's interesting. Is West Virginia down like the south technically, not the Midwest?

Yeah. The Mason-Dixon line? Yeah. You can't call Tennessee the Midwest. Yeah, or Louisiana. Virginia is south. Where's Arkansas? Where's Arkansas, pal Louisiana. Virginia is south. Where's Arkansas? Where's Arkansas, pal?

South. Completely south. Now, is Texas Midwest? Texas is Texas. Texas is Texas. Okay, so what's Oklahoma? See, I don't know if Kansas, Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota are Midwest in my head. I think that's the Plains.

I think Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri is where that Midwest line cuts off, personally. And then what? Arkansas, Louisiana, Tennessee, North Carolina kind of boxes in the South? Yeah, even Kentucky I think you could go South. Yeah, Kentucky definitely. Yeah. Okay. Where does Bo Jackson live?

Alabama? Yeah. I don't know. What's going on with him, Ty? He's dealing with it. He's had the hiccups since July. That was a story out there, right? Yeah.

True. July? Doctors have no idea. Wait, July of 2022 was the last time that Bo Jackson didn't have hiccups. Yeah. He hasn't slept in a damn year. It says he's had hiccups since July. Doctors don't know why.

Is there any? I mean, if there's any doctors online that want to dial into the 5-Hour Energy phone line, I'd like to know why they can't figure hiccups out. Well, and hiccups is just when you get too much air. Is that all it is? And your body, there's a flap in your body and it just keeps flipping. So is that why you try to get scared? Yeah, or that's why you hold your breath.

Really? What do you do when you have hiccups, Pac? Eat mustard. What? Just dump it down your gullet? What the hell is that? Get some fucking mustard. Or drink some Green River. It stops it immediately. How come people get hiccups when they're cartoon drunk?

Too much air in their body. Because of all the fuzz and all the bubbles. So has Bo done any... It'd be tough for him to sit down for an interview. How often are those hiccups coming? Remember what Bo Jackson does too now. He's an archer. So you know how pissed off he's been? He's scaring all the turkeys

and everyone away. And even just... He holds his breath a lot. He's scaring all the turkeys and everyone away. He gets dialed in. Boom. He's shooting like... He's way off. He's hitting Jimmy Graham flying an airplane over top of him. Let's hope not because if Jimmy saw it coming, he'd dodge it. Hard right.

He said Top Gun got him into flying, didn't he? Yeah, it's pretty crazy. You guys know Harrison Ford was a pilot? He crashed two years ago on a golf course. Air Force One. He's getting old. One of golf course. Yeah, he's in there for it. He's getting old. One of those old school points, too. Into a bunker.

Did he? Yeah, somehow. He walked away from it? He was fine. You got lucky. Well, he's Harrison Ford. I think after that, people were like, hey, Harry, stop fucking flying planes. You're 78 years old. Got there in 12 Parasax. What's that? You got there in 12 Parasax. Oh, yeah. That goes completely above my head. yeah parsecs it's a star wars thing uh have you seen

harrison ford lately he's acting in tv he's crushing i have not oh he's on um shrinking jason siegel yeah yeah he's good great show yeah yeah i haven't seen all of it that was a good show is there more than one season no no just the first to come out. Apple TV, they hit home runs. They have a lot of good stuff. He's killed it in Yellowstone too. It was 1923. Oh, Harrison? He's in the prequel? With Tim McGraw? No, the one after that. There's another one. 1923. Was

there 1917? No. That's a movie. It was like 1887 or something. 1917 is that movie they made about World War I. That's right. I saw that. Yeah.

It was like one big shot. Yeah. Man, that was a sad movie. That was a crazy movie. Like just tough. Tough conditions for everybody. All quiet on the Western Front. Oh, goodness.

That one's sad. Yeah. That's the one. I think I'm thinking of that one. Yeah. That's the one I'm thinking of. It's all in German. It's like dark and just horrible situation. You can't believe so many people obviously died but lived through that

and then just had the rest of their life with that in the background. That's trench warfare, baby. I mean, that is, right? That was the last time we had trench warfare, right? That's Blitzkrieg. That's when it was nasty. Was that mustard gas? Yes.

Big in World War I, that's what became big? Zyklon B or whatever? Zyklon something? And they brought the flamethrowers for the next round. You think you could dodge a flamethrower? No. If you saw the dude come with a big pack and you were in a bunker, he comes up and as soon as the flame starts to come out, that's when you're allowed to move.

And you got to go right. Absolutely not. You know how far those things go? No, I don't. 30 feet. Very far. Yeah, they cover. I figured that gives you enough time to adjust as it's coming to you.

That's why you always got to carry water with you. But you're saying. See those pill boxes they were in. There's not a whole lot of place to, you know, it's not like a sprawling four bedroom house. Ty has the whole pack. He comes up on you, Con. He's like, oh, here we go. It's almost like a game of chicken.

So am I this close to. Yeah. And you move 10 more feet back. 10 feet back. So I'm 10 feet away. You said, say when. And he's sitting there on a trigger finger. And I can move. When. Right, left, back, wherever you need to go. No, I think I'm 10 feet away. You said, say when. And he's sitting there on a trigger finger. And I can move as soon as I can.

Right, left, back, wherever you need to go. No, I think I'm dead immediately. How heavy is this thing? I think it's pretty heavy. It's probably like 80 pounds. You probably have a few good shots because there's so much fuel being used, too. Well, most of those guys, you know, they turn around and boop, boop, and they get hit.

Their tanks are done for. You're right. Everybody's shooting at you. You don't want that gig. Unless you're clearing pillboxes, then it'd be pretty sweet. You want to be like the hundredth guy kind of coming onto the beach, basically. Yeah. Because by that time, they've made enough ground where you are now just clearing bunkers.

And these guys have nowhere to go. Yeah. Saving Private Ryan, is that the best war movie out there? It's funny when we asked Jack Carr about this yesterday. He said 13 Hours in Benghazi. That's the Benghazi. It's not even a war movie. It's about some private contractors that were taken care of.

It was most accurate. It was a great movie. I was hoping he was going to say Blackhawk Town. That was great as well. That's an old school. He did reference Blackhawk Town. He did. That would great as well. That's an old school. He did reference black cocktail. He did. That would be a nasty situation. Wait, oh, here's a flamethrower pack. That's what we're talking about.

Oh. What about the Elon flamethrower? I don't know if this guy knows what he's doing. I do not believe these are the type of... I mean, that's pretty good. Elon, is he still making the flamethrower for who hit the target? Boring.

Boring flamethrowers. The boring company. Remember, that was big. Elon had one. I think Rogan had one in his studio and was shooting it a little bit. Different people got those. You didn't get one, Pac? No.

Lil' Dion got one of them damn things. But I don't get the reason why would you want to shoot fire. If you want to shoot fire, fucking just light a match. Sure. I guess it's for trench warfare. That's what you need. I believe it was for the bunkers, right? You go back about 100 and something years.

You need to smoke them out of the bunker. You need to smoke out about 80 people. Yep. Man, that's a gig. All of a sudden, they catch on fire and they just come running out? Yeah. I'm surprised they never put Kevlar around the tank. So if they run and stop dropping road, they're going to be burned. What was that, Z? I'm surprised they never put Kevlar around the tank. So if they run and stop dropping road, they're

going to be burned. What was that, Z? I'm surprised they never put Kevlar around the tank. They got like armor and stuff. All tanks are armored? I mean, those flamethrowers? I don't want to say all tanks, but I think it's called a tank. He's talking about the tank on the guy's back, the flamethrower.

He wants to surround that in Kevlar. It should be surrounded with something that is bulletproof or does helps a little bit don't you think i would imagine well uh fortunately you know this was 70 years ago they're really not using flame flowers in war anymore yeah there's not a whole i don't know there's a lot of big use for those right now in current society pack he said it that's. That's a different era. That is not war today. Imagine you had some fucking alcohol ready for his ass.

Molotov? Some Mazel Tov? Bingo. I don't think Mazel Tov is what they're called. Maybe. I think they yell Mazel Tov when they throw them. Mazel! It's good to know. And then they hawk them.

Have you ever thrown one? What? Molotov. No, I was going to. Have you guys ever thrown a real grenade? No. Have you? No, I want to. That'd be awesome. But you've got to have it. I know I've talked to people that were in the military and the worst thing

you can do is pull the pin and just hold on to it. Some people freeze. So they have it. You don't say. Yeah, but when I'm saying it, people will do it. it. Some people freeze. So they have it. Like if you throw it. You don't say. Yeah. But what I'm saying, people will do it. It happens. It happens. So you got to like, if you're, when they have people throw them for the first time, they

put them in like a little deal to where if they, if they don't throw it, I don't think it doesn't kill everybody else, but they do something where if they drop it accidentally, like you're trying to throw it, you drop it. It'll go like on a downward hill behind you or something. Like you stand in an area where it gets away from you. Was that in World War II where we made the grenade like a baseball because we're Americans and we throw baseballs? I believe so.

I haven't asked Spielberg. They were using drumsticks. Yeah, he made them. Did Spielberg make the same product, Ryan? Yeah. Yeah. He didn't make grenades. Well, I assumed he did.

But he was probably historically accurate. Maybe his grandpop he did. Yeah. Would you want to throw a grenade? Me? Yeah. Absolutely. Wouldn't you be a little bit worried?

About what? I wouldn't be that worried. About dropping it next to you or blowing up in your hand? I mean, do you know how many times we've thrown things in our lives? Just chuck it. I want to shoot an RPG is what I want to do. Yeah. That is kind of, that's my speed. Good body or shoulder,

bro? Don't matter. No, it seems alright. Shoulders are already fucked. Can you buy RPGs online, like on Silk Road or anything? Bill? Bill? I think you can buy an RPG. I know what Ty wants to do. He wants to get on top of a Humvee and get on top of the 50 count. Yeah. Who doesn't?

Who doesn't want to do that? Oh, yeah. You know who probably won't do that? Another great segue, J.J. Redick. He interviewed for the Toronto basketball gig. He did. You know that? I know you guys didn't think that's where we're going next. No, I didn't. But that's where we were going next.

J.J. Redick, just because I'm very interested in this. Yeah, and allegedly the Celtics wanted to interview him for an assistant role. He's probably going head coach or bust. Yeah, I would have thought Steve Nash ruined this, though. I don't know. Jason Kidd. this, though. I don't know. Jason Kidd. All these guys. You mean going straight from playing?

At least Jason Kidd was an assistant first, right? Was he? Correct me if I'm wrong. I thought he was. Well, I mean, this is the model, though. Who else has gone straight to head coaching? Kidd. I think Kidd went straight to head coaching.

I thought Jason Kidd did. I thought he did. I mean, JJ went to TV. It's technically kind of Steve Kerr. Steve Kerr was played, and then he was on TV for a while, and then he's... It was a longer time in between. Yeah, Kidd might have been with the Bucs, actually, before

he got there. He was head coach of the Bucs. Really? I went to a game... Before Bolden was there? The only game I've ever been to courtside, Jason Kidd was head coach of the Bucs. He went straight to... Jason Kidd went straight to head coach. Yeah, that's why I thought it was going to be the model kind of thing. The next thing.

But JJ's been out, what, two years? Probably at least one. Two, three. Maybe two, three. I think the bubble was his last year. Yeah, that sounds right. What do you think about that, Pac, about hiring guys straight? I mean, he's not straight from the court, but he got done playing recently,

and now he's on TV and he has no coaching experience. It's the same way what happened with the coach. That shit is not going to work. Jeff Saturday. Come on, bro. You know how I'm scraping for – that's just my opinion. Now, I don't know what he's been doing behind the scenes as far as staying tuned with the game and all of that.

But, like, you got to have personality. You got to be a leader of men to be at these coaching spots. Like, it's not just, oh, I know basketball. I can go coach. Because if you can't connect with the group and connect with the players, like, it's a shitty situation. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, what if you're a head coach and all of a sudden

the Draymond situation pops up where he punches your young stud? Yeah. How do you handle that as a coach? How do you bring them together? The Raptors I saw interviewed Becky Hammond. That's who should be the head coach. She'd be the first female head coach ever. That's just a matter of time before that happens.

Yeah, and it should be her. That's why it would make more sense. But the Raptors, they have most of their squad. They'll be okay if they get the coach and get the right guy in. You know who's going to get a gig soon enough? Chris Quinn. He's like Spolstra's right-hand man. He sits next to him on the bench.

You see him all the time. He's from Dublin. My wife's family's known his family forever um I know his family decently well he's yeah I think he's already interviewed for a few jobs in the past and he's connected with to Spolstra and Spolstra is super highly respected I think he'll be I think he'll be a great head coach whenever he is yeah it's hard to imagine though that JJ Reddick gets hired before likeenholzer, who just got fired from the Milwaukee. I mean, the guy they just fired won a championship as

coach of the year. All it takes is the owner of GM though to say, hey, let's do this. Yeah, simple. Yeah, it's quick. The Celtics old coach is the Rockets new coach? Yeah. Did the Celtics find a way to not have to pay him or anything? Yeah, he got fired for cause. Was it for cause?

Yeah, he got let go. He got suspended. He got suspended for this year, and then he was given permission to speak with other teams. It doesn't make sense. That whole story has to come out because it wasn't even as if. It disappeared. Well, there were other teams too.

The Nets requested to interview him. He went, or he either went or he didn't go because they found out the whole story. I think the Raptors were another team. Like, MAU Doka was approached or at least wanted by other teams. And then whether they found out information or not, basically the team said they weren't interested. And then the Houston Rockets who seemed,

they were full-blown tanking this year. I mean, their owner was saying that. I think it was Mardi Gras. Like, suck for Wemby or some bullshit. that. I think it was Mardi Gras. Suck for Wemby or some bullshit. We'll see what happens. He is a great coach. He might be a scumbag, but

he knows how to coach basketball. Aren't you surprised at how that disappeared, Pac? It was everything. We don't know exactly, but we will and we still don't. What was more surprising is that so many people know. Like Stephen A. I remember all the things people were like, hey, when you guys get, like, trust me.

I remember everyone saying, like, this is something real. You guys aren't going to understand. They were saying it was the kind of stuff he would never be able to come back from. And then, well and behold, eight months later, he's got another head coaching job. Matt Barnes came out, like, not supporting him, but, like, kind of not burying him. And then he released a video after they recorded their podcast, like, yeah, I found out everything. This guy, this is tough.

I don't see how anybody could kind of defend him now. Yeah. But no one ever found out, and all these people knew. It makes no sense. Eventually. I hope, because I would love to know what happened. But it would probably be one of those things where there's 15 different stories, and we never know what actually really happened. If he'll probably be one of those things where there's 15 different stories.

Yeah. And we never know what actually really happened. If he start winning, it'll come out. You think? Yeah. Yeah. Everything come out when you win. Yeah.

We're going to get out to the 5-Hour Energy phone line again, fellas. Here we go. What do you think? I think let's go to Jay in Rochester. There he is. Jay, what's happening, man? How you doing? Keep moving. Yo, what's up, boys? boys i want to say congrats to pat and sam first

off beautiful baby amen uh yeah pga championship in my hometown next week uh no odds i don't see any odds out there right now but uh what are you guys feeling about that? And how about if the Leafs come back and do what they did, you know, come back and beat Florida, that would be amazing, you know, too. Yeah, appreciate the call, Jay. You don't think the Leafs are going to come back? No, not a chance. Is it 3-1? Yeah.

Well, they played well last night, though. Played all right, barely won. What was the score? 2-1. W is a W. But, yeah, do you like them? Do you like Toronto, Nick? I don't despise them like a lot of people do.

But we talked about it a little bit last night on that talky talk with Stanley Cup champion Mike Rupp. And Rupp made the point that the Leafs core guys, right, they're key guys, they're big names, the star players, don't really have that attitude, that killer mindset. They're not step-on-throat kind of guys. They're all more passive-aggressive, and they're very skilled. They're very talented players, but they don't seem to have that killer attitude like a lot of other teams do and a lot of other team superstars do. So it's hard to see them rallying and stepping up in a big time moment of adversity what let's

say they got have they tried signing like one of those guys like what have you got one kind of goon-ish guy could he have it's like on the rest of the team yeah you could do that you could try and inject some of that into the team but when it's your main guy you know this AJ you follow from the top right when those are your big name guys that's the leadership of your team that's who you're looking to as a role player to kind of figure things out from and when you're not getting that from the top it's hard to try and bring that from the bottom and go upwards right oh yeah yeah i can see i understand what you're saying there it sounds like toronto is gonna have to figure something out this team is this a broken record in this? I've heard this for a while now.

The great Julius Campbell once said, attitude reflects leadership, Captain. Boom. And that's exactly what we got going on in Toronto. Exactly. We talked about it yesterday. They're a team that has no sandpaper, no grit, no jam. Can you find that?

I don't think so. No, not this deep into the season. If you don't have jam, you don't have jam. If there's no jam, there's no job to be had. You can't just produce a job. But as Shane in Rochester said, I don't know if his name was Shane or not, PGA Championship starts next week. No Tiger.

And is it in Rochester? It's in Rochester. What course is that? Oak Hill. You haven't heard of that? It's like an old, famous course, right? You play there, Pac? No, I haven't played there yet.

Who's going to win? Scottie. Scottie? What about John Rahm? Scottie? Those are the co-favorites. Both those guys are just on, they're on a different planet. What's Rory at after that?

Rory's job. All right, how many live guys are in this? All of them. Are all the majors, are the live guys allowed to play if they are qualified? Yeah. Yeah, Brookie Cookie. Brookie's in it. What does Brooks have to do to continue to qualify?

Just finish decent in these majors he's playing? He's good because he's won. He's won. He's good for a while, but there's a time when all of those cut off. Some of you win, you're in forever. The Masters is 30 years, I believe. Some of them are like five years, ten years if you win. Yeah, but –

Who does well at this course? Do you know yet? I don't know yet. I haven't dove into it enough. Yeah, it's too far away. I will. Next week. I didn't know it was coming up this quick. Me neither.

That's actually great news for next weekend. Yeah. Of all the majors, of all four majors, the PGA Championship, the one that you... Yeah, the least amount. Yeah. Why? By far. Just because it's...

Because the other three... Nothing like Augusta. Yeah, Augusta. Augusta, yeah, it's... Tradition. U.S. Opens, players versus the course. The Open is just full links. Traditional over there, too.

And there's a little like America versus, at least for me, it's kind of like the U.S. Open, you want an American to win it. And it's the same thing with the British Open. Like you want someone to go over there and snatch that trophy for the Americans. But, I mean, that's just me personally. And PGA Championship is just like, all right, let's see what happens. Isn't it – I've heard the golfers say the PGA is the toughest field because, like, the U.S. Open people claim there's, like, Joe –

There are amateurs. I've caddied for a dude trying to make it into the U.S. Open and his regional. He didn't make it out of his regional. Danny Wooden? No, the guy I caddied for didn't even make it out of our regional. Danny did. There's no food on the course either. I was caddying 18 holes.

I assumed there would be cart girls or whatever. Cart people. Nothing. I was carrying his bag too so I didn't have my normal 15 protein bars and stuff. It was tough. Bad decision. Yeah, that's brutal. I mean, typically U.S. Open qualifiers, they tell the cart girl, hey, don't worry about it. Well, no.

I assumed the course was open. I'm like, yeah, here we go. Oh, this is run by the USGA or whatever. So all the workers from the course, none of them are here. I was like, that's stupid. Did they get a dog at the turn? No, nothing. It was the dumbest thing. Not even a dog at the turn.

Nothing. See, that's bullshit. Nothing was open. Even the clubhouse? Nothing. They shut them all down because the USGA did whatever. This was not COVID. This was pre-COVID.

Joel Dobbin got hammered at the turn on his qualifier. Well, maybe the golfers were allowed to go somewhere. I was just a lowly caddy. They didn't let me in. No, you're doing good work. You know that next time put a couple power bars in the bag. Oh my goodness. If I ever agree to caddy again, which I don't know if I would. If you played, Pat, if you're in the US Open, I'll caddy for you.

Promise. What do you shoot? If you go play golf today, I know you enjoy it. What's your range you can shoot? On an average day, I'm going to shoot 90 90 on a good day i'm gonna shoot 85 oh you can play then you can play what about a really bad day a really bad day i'm gonna shoot 93 okay see that's not a real that's my range is way i could i can shoot 84 but i can shoot 104 too probably i haven't shot over 95 in in probably two years. AJ's also a sandbag. I haven't

played outside either. You saw me when I played as good as I've ever played in Tahoe. Yeah, but you're just saying as good as you've ever played. It was. AJ, you were so good in Tahoe. Everyone can understand. AJ can hit the ball far. We get it. No.

You have really soft hands, great touch, the whole deal. I actually made a couple putts out there this year. And you were great with your wedges. Believe me. I've never been good with my wedges. No, I've always said, ask Nick. I told Nick, I got hands like Sidney Crosby out there around the greens, bro. I feel great with

a 54 in my hand. I don't feel great putting. I don't like to putt, but with a wedge, a 54, I love it. Why did you do that weird, awkward laugh when Foxy said that you have soft hands? Maybe because I was thinking of me telling Nick that I had hands like Sidney Crosby. Maybe it took me back to the course where I think I had chipped something in, and Nick was like, wow, like he was blown. It was a pretty good chip for a big doofus.

I said something about my hands being like Sidney Crosby's. Nailed it. Because you say you shoot 84 and then you shoot 100. We watched you for four, three days. You can see my card. I think I shot my best ever, I shot like 83 out there and then I shot 90 one day and I shot 85 one day. Yes, okay.

So if you said my range from 80 to 90. Normally there's a 96 in there or 97. Yeah, but see there wasn't. For three rounds you were next. Me, Sandbagger. Yes, exactly. I mean, I wasn't betting with anybody. Yeah, but see, there wasn't. For three rounds, you were next. Yes, exactly. I mean, I wasn't betting with anybody. But how do you say that your average is a 90-something?

I didn't say average. I said range. Range. No, my range. I said I can shoot 84, but I can also shoot 100. Don't you have your typical bat out there, too? You guys did a really good golf course, too. Yeah. Just depends if I'm hitting the ball in play. There sometimes were six straight holes. my drive's out of bounds. I'm taking strokes.

But the typical bet's pretty high stakes. It is, yeah. You and Larry the Cable Guy every year, whoever goes lower gets to punch the other in the face as hard as they can. He's a lefty, too, so that's going to come in from there, right here on this side of my face. He's also 6'8". People don't tell you that. Yeah. He's a big son of a bitch. Larry the Cable Guy, he loves golf. Very passionate about it. He's also 6'8". People don't tell you that. He's a big son of a bitch. Larry DeCable, guys,

he loves golf. Very passionate about it. He's a good player. I think he is a good player now. Jerry Rice, really good golfer. He's out there. Vinny Del Negro. Very good golfer. Giant human. I have not seen him in Tahoe, but I've seen him. I remember him in the United Way commercial, and I said,

does that guy have the biggest forearms and hands in the history of the world? I think it's United Way. He has these big rings, and he's trying to do a magic trick in a commercial, and he knocks them together. He's like, oh, I don't know what's going on. And his forearms are like this big, this wide. His hands are like 19 inches. If you find that on YouTube,

send me a link. Tim Wakefield, he's a stick. Wakefield is. All of golfers. Romo. Romo won last year, I believe. He did. Just of golfers. Small T. Romo. Romo won last year, I believe. He did. Right? Steph almost wins every single year. Actually, he has King Griffin Jr.

Yeah. He can hit the hell out of a golfer. Oh, yeah. That's a beautiful swing. Romo barely beat, actually, Joe Pavelski. Yeah, Pavelski's an awesome golfer. Pavelski's almost won a few times. Steph is in the running every single year. Mark Mulder. Yeah, Osh is a stud. Mulder's won three won a few times. Steph is in the running every single year. Mark Mulder.

Yeah, Osh is a stud. Mulder's won three in a row before. I mean, we've talked about it, but Adam Thielen, he's always... Thielen could absolutely win. Annika Sorenstam. She's played a few times. Really good golfer. Mike Madano was up on the leaderboard this past season. Madano.

Was Basil McRae on the bag? Ray Romano. Ray Romano. Ray Romano's there. Yeah. I've never played with Ray He loves golf They always paired him with actors

I heard Russ Wilson's carrying the bag for Sean Payton this year Really? I hope Sean's coming Didn't Sean say he is coming? I think he said it's early enough In Sean's high school jersey? No The jersey that was in the

documentary of Sean Payton's coaching career played by No. What? Russ in his own jersey. The jersey that was in the documentary of Sean Payton's coaching career played by Kevin James. Did you see that documentary, Pack, that Kevin James played as Sean Payton? About his year off from football? I didn't see it either.

These guys all saw it. It's so good. The term documentary gets thrown around loosely around this place. It's true. Sean Payton said that the script's so close to what it exactly it. It's so good. The term documentary gets thrown loosely around this place. It's true. Sean Payton said that the script's so close to what it exactly was. It was considered a documentary. It made him emotional. Yeah, he was like, fuck, I feel like I'm reliving this again. It made him emotional?

Yeah. Oh, yeah. The scene where they're huddled up and one of the kids pukes and everyone has a good laugh about it. He was like, I remember that. I still remember that like it was yesterday. He was choking up now that I think about it. Yeah, he was with us at the Super Bowl. Yeah. He was not for the record. Anyone watching, I remember that. I still remember that like it was yesterday. He was choking up now that I think about it. Yeah, he was with us at the Super Bowl.

Yeah. He was not for the record. Anyone watching, he was not. I heard a rumor that they are going to make a new movie where his team in that with Kevin James as coach is going to take on Kurt Warner's team from that That's a great movie, though. Oh, yeah, this is the documentary we're talking about, Home Team. Boom. That's Sean Payton.

Looks like a documentary, right? Yeah. Bet you couldn't tell. Look at number one. Savage. Just flexing. No, that That's Sean Payton. Looks like a documentary, right? Yeah. Look at number one. Savage. Just flexing. No, that's not Sean Payton. It's Kevin James. That was one of the taglines for it. No, it wasn't.

Is that Zion down there? For real? Jeez, Pack. Jeez. I mean, that was... Is seven your cousin? Oh, here we go. We got more. Seven my cousin. No, that's Sunshine.

Hold on. 99. Don't. Killing it. Don't do it. What does he play? Nose? Don't do it.

Three technique? Three technique. No! Don't do it. What are you saying? Z playing D line. Oh, I didn't even put that together. Aaron Donald Z.

Z, that's not right. What else were good numbers that year? 18 sacks. Man, I bet your arm over is vicious. Boom. Hit your first step, Z. It's probably off the charts. Oh, yeah.

Z, did you play high school football? Oh, yeah. Where at? In Chicago? Oh, yeah. DG. Isn't there a president from Chicago? Don't sleep on Barry O now.

There we go. I can always finagle it out of him. Boom. He also played football. Isn't that spot on, Peck? Yeah. I think Brock finagle it out of him. Boom. He also fights football. Isn't that spot on, Pac? Yeah. I think Brock is in there sometimes. It's unbelievable.

Anytime Chicago is brought up or Obama. But your Bears are going to dominate this year's Heat. Oh, absolutely dominate. What's your record? Over, under was what when we saw over and a half? It was six and a half. Seven and a half. They got Pac week one?

Yeah. Yes. That's a different looking Packers-Bears game without Aaron, obviously. It's going to be crazy. Is it Chicago or is it Lambeau for week one? Yeah. That's a different looking Packers-Bears game without Aaron, obviously. It's going to be crazy. Is it Chicago or is it Lambeau for that one? I don't remember. It's a 325 game though, I know that. Think if you were Matt

LaFleur and you had to address the team. I think about all these teams. In Chicago. Oh, it's going to be rowdy. But with Matt LaFleur, if you're going into your first team meeting in the offseason he had in April, whatever it was, they started up. And, you know, they give you a quote, like we got a chance to go make a run and win this whole thing and win the Super Bowl and all this.

And you got to sell your whole program and tell them what you're doing. It's got to be really weird for him without Aaron in that room. And knowing like, yeah, he might be the guy, but right now we just don't know. Yeah. I was thinking about it, but, you know, he didn't draft Aaron. And if you think about it, Aaron is the last of the last that was in this class or that he didn't draft. So it might feel a little awkward, but I don't think he gives – he don't give a shit.

He's just excited. He's excited. It's a great opportunity for him to show, hey, I don't – I'm a great coach aside from Aaron. That's probably the worry. That's what you need to prove. That's what you want to prove and you need to. You don't even address it, right?

If you're LaFleur, you just show up and don't even ever mention Aaron's name? I don't know. Either you – you can't just completely ignore it. I think everyone has accepted it, though. It's not like – Yeah, they know. What is he going to say that's going to be like, oh, you know what? Yeah, that's true.

You don't have to make a big deal about it. Be like, hey, guys, things are going to be a little different for a while. This is what we are, but this is a great opportunity. See, that's why I think for Jordan Love, it's obviously important to play as well, but it's just as important for Matt LaFleur because LaFleur will just be called a joke. If it's, oh, okay, you were only a good coach because Aaron Rodgers. You're not actually a good coach. That argument will be made if the Packers aren't good.

Isn't that still being made about Bill Belichick? Absolutely, yeah, exactly. He's fighting that battle right now still, and people think he's losing. Yeah. Bad. Well, last year they were 8-9. Well, he is losing the battle as far as. When people say, was it Tom or Bill?

Yeah. Obviously, it's a combination of both. It's a combination of both, but shit, Tom just went and did it without his ass. Yeah, well, Tom had to do it. That was the dagger right there when Tom went. The dagger was actually Tom drunk at the boat parade throwing the Lombardi to the other boat. That was the dagger where Bill had to be like, he's probably torn.

Like, man, I am happy for my guy, but at the same time, he's like, I got to go win 10 more Super Bowls. Yeah, see, I agree with you. I don't think Bill cares about that shit as much. Like, I think Tom went to a great situation. I think he was happy for him. Like, he went to the NFC, too. It's not as if he beat the Patriots in the AFC championship or anything like that.

And when we're talking about rings, Bill has the seven or eight, whatever the hell it was. But Tom, really, the kicker is for the fans just when he left. Like, him winning the Super Bowl was one thing, but a lot of people, it wasn't including me, a lot of people were rooting for Tom in New England. Were they? Oh, yeah. Because they thought he got a raw deal or because they just love him?

Just because they love him. I'd say 50-50. Fair enough. 50-50, even like 70-30, 70 rooting for him. Do you think Bill was really rooting for him to win a championship, though? I don't think Bill roots for anybody to win a championship except for him. Do you think Bill was really rooting for him to win a championship, though? I don't think Bill roots for anybody to win a championship except for himself. Okay. Which is, I think, most of the coaches.

I do wonder that, Pac, though. In his brain, though, he's a human still. He is a human. That's what I'm saying. He's like, God damn how I let this slip away. Yeah. I wonder how he felt. He's sitting there with fucking Matt Jones right now.

It's a fucking big difference. I think he thinks that every year. I really do. Whether he wins it or not. He is probably so programmed. How his whole, everything is so scheduled and everything about it. You're right. He probably doesn't worry about all the little dumb things that some people do worry about.

Yeah, like when the team loses, people talk about let's just say the last time they went to the playoffs against the Bills and how Bill got embarrassed because they scored on every possession. Bill went to the Bills locker room after and went to Josh Hunt. He respects if you win, he just

respects it. I like that about him. He also knows when the other team is just better. In his brain though, he's guaranteed he would never tell anybody, but in his mind he's like, obviously you guys have a much better roster. He's probably thinking yeah, of course you guys – guarantee you he's got – he would never tell anybody, but in his mind he's like, I mean, obviously you guys have a much better roster. Like he's probably thinking like, yeah, of course you guys won't. But he's also the GM.

He would never say that. That's what I mean. He's putting together the roster. Never mind. My bad. I would say in like maybe like Cam, like that was a thought. Like your roster is a lot better than us because that was the kick the can down the road year for us where we actually had to pay the piper.

But I think these last two years, no, I don't know if he thought like your team is much better than ours because it's like, hey, we've had money. We've spent a lot of money. I think losing the coaches was the biggest deal versus the match rookie year because it was the same roster. I would assume going into every year he just thinks he's going to make it work. The only thing that wasn't the same is the quarterback yeah it is so hard to get a fucking quarterback with the caliber

and the knowledge and the fucking grid and can make every check when it's a fucking all-out blitz call a screen like doing the little things that you cannot like you can't replace that shit yeah but the the thing is the quarterback was the same The only difference was it was the first team in NFL history without an offensive coordinator who called plays before. That's a bit concerning. That's actually back. I know you don't like Mack, but you've got to look at it from a zoomed-out view. That is the only difference there was from the playoff year, his rookie year,

and the second year is that their offense coordinator became a head coach and Bill put too much trust in the guy who coaches defense. Matt Patricia. Yes. Like, that is the reality. I would like to see Matt Patricia do a sit-down and just be like, hey, man, what was the year like? How was it?

From what you expected? I would love that. Like, day-to-day? Like, he had to be swimming. Like, it had to be brutally tough, obviously. For someone that's been doing it for 30 years, it's tough. I would love anyone on the offensive side of the ball to do that. Not until he's done.

Not until he's tough. I would love anyone on the offensive side of the ball to do that. But that's what he's done. That's what he's done. I just – Bill is too qualified to put somebody in a position that can't do it. Why did that happen? It just don't make sense. Exactly. It's a wild move. Exactly.

That's why – That's my point. Exactly. What the fuck? We're tanking the season? Like, he – It was just a screw-up. Like, there was –

I mean, I guess I could see how you could get so – Like, you could have so much belief in your guy, somebody that you know, but you feel like, hey, I know this person better than anybody. Like, I guess I could see how you could get so, like you could have so much belief in your guys, somebody that you know, but you feel like, hey, I know this person better than anybody. Like I understand they can handle it. They can do it. Maybe you got so caught up in it and you're just such a fan of your people

and who you have mentored and who are on your staff that you're like, hey, you guys don't get it. I can do it. I have confidence in this person. And then the good thing that I think Bill has is just like with draft picks, whatever, they don't care if it didn't work. They move on.

Exactly. They don't hang on to try to look good. Like, oh, we drafted this guy. I did this. I got to make sure I don't look stupid. No. He's like, oh, okay. Didn't work. All right.

See ya. Six-round pick. Next guy to end here. It's the same with the free agency. Like, we'd have him with Johnny Smith. We'd pay Johnny Smith, and then they shipped him out of town after this year. Spent two years, and then they're like, all right. They don't dwell on draft picks, too.

People like to claim that they can't really draft well at times and that's why he's yeah that's why he's such a great gm it's because like he doesn't have like the ego of like i need to make this guy work in the system like if he doesn't work then you're out it's it's not it's not that complicated like if you play well you'll get an extension yeah but if you play too well and you want that max money you're right you're out right you out. That's how it works. They see it coming a mile away. It's funny. You play well, you get a contract.

Yeah, we'll take care of you, bud. But don't think you're going to step into that next stratosphere like superstar contracts. We're not going to mess around doing that. Yeah, exactly. But now that Tom's gone, you don't have that same thing or everything about it. You don't have it.

Also, when you mentioned all that's gone is the quarterback, but when you have a quarterback like Tom or Aaron Rodgers, whoever, the confidence they breed in the rest of the team, just knowing that that guy is my quarterback, every single day in that facility is different. Because you know how awesome that dude is. And you're like, we are in every single game, and we expect to win every game.

Tom leaves. Aaron leaves. Not that you don't believe, but it's just you're curious. I don't know. Let's see. I'm quite sure Tom calls the motherfuckers 8 it's just you're curious. I don't know. Let's see. I'm quite sure Tom calls the motherfuckers 8.30 at night, 9.30 in the morning, 1 a.m. Those are things that no matter how good this kid is, he can't reciprocate those tangents. This one person can do, the way I can catch fucking punts, no matter how good you're saying this kid is,

he can't fucking catch a punt with me with somebody in my face better. Exactly. Just because I haven't been through the repetitions a million times. And I'm pretty good at it. But, like, certain things you can't say, oh, yeah, he wasn't the quarterback. It was the offensive coordinator when we don't know. Bobby, that's the argument I'm saying. We do because it his rookie year,

which is usually the hardest year for quarterbacks coming into the NFL, he was pretty damn good. They went to the playoffs. And then the second year, he didn't have an O.C. and it was the worst offense in football. So I feel like you can make that argument with Mac. As far as the Brady thing, you can say that about every quarterback in NFL history

that no one can compare to Brady. He won seven fucking rings. Like, there is no team ever that Brady has played for that wasn't confident. Versus, I mean, even with Aaron, it's probably similar, but it still isn't on the level of Tom Brady. Like, there's stories about Tom texting the Chief, I think is what you were talking about, before the Super Bowl, of him texting, like, the guys on the offensive side of the ball.

Hey, we're going to beat the fucking Chiefs and we're going to beat the shit out of them. And then they did. Like Brady is a different level and no one, I don't think Max expectations or anyone's expectations, whether it's, I mean, even my homes should be at Brady because they're so ridiculous, even though my homes has only been AFC championships, but any,

any new quarterback, like it quarterback, it's unrealistic. And that's why I've said this before. The AFC specifically, when Brady was with the Patriots, was so bad for so many years. There were three teams. Now there are seven good teams. And there's a massive chance Max sucks this year and then he's gone. Because the standard is so high for quarterbacks now.

So if Max stinks, he's gone. And then I assume Bill might sell the farm to move up to get one of the good quarterbacks next year. But I just don't think that we can say Max sucks because he went to the playoffs his rookie year and then last year he wasn't good. That's a valid argument. That's a valid argument. But how long do you give him now, though? He stinked last year But how long do you give him now? He got one more year. But he got Bailey Zappi. Let's say he starts

the first. Let's say they go four and four and Mack plays average. You don't think they'll be calling for Bailey Zappi? They're chanting the dude's name. I don't think Bill will because Bill Darius has talked about this before. The first four weeks of the season for Belichick are like, let's find out who the fuck we got.

No, it's eight. It's always been. It's four and four. Yeah, right? Four, four, four, four. But you're right. The Patriots have, with Tom, for the last 20 years, they have known, hey, September, we get it.

Yeah, we want to win every game. We're not going to lose our mind if we lose. We're trying to set ourselves up to be in position when it matters in the end. Now, though, I think it's a different feel around there. Yeah, I hope that there's no injury because that's obviously what was tough last year. Like, Mack gets injured, Billy Zappi plays well.

Mack tries to rush back, and then he's still fucked up. His ankle, that was. But, I mean, I don't know. I think you give Mack all the chances, and then if he sucks, then he's gone. Let's say Mack doesn't play great. They're not going to blame Billy O'Brien because we've already said he's the savior. He's the offensive

guru. It doesn't matter either way because Bill's staying. Billy O.B. might go get a head gig at some big college or an NFL team. If Mack's not good, I doubt the guy who leads the offense that stinks isn't going to get a job. But also, that's the other thing about the expectations.

We've got Aaron Rodgers. What are the expectations? That's my question. The Patriots are still the Patriots to me. The expectation, exactly. The Patriots are still the Patriots. The expectation is to make the playoffs. Oh, gross. Exactly. That feels terrible that you even said that. Yeah, but it's real. I know it's hard to admit though, I think.

Yeah, you have to be realistic about it. There are five, six teams. When you say they're the Patriots, doesn't that hurt you as a Bostonian? No. Just being realistic. But you know, AJ, all you got to do is get in there. It's all about how you get in there, if you're healthy or not. Just get in and make a run.

Anyone can make a run. Go to the dance. It's such a long season just to get there. It's crazy. And then once you get there. It's hard, too. You got to get a lot of good luck, too. Things have to go your way.

Seven playoffs game, never won one. Really? Yeah. I guess since he's been forever. When's the last one since he won? Ever? No, but we lost six in a row. Back in the day. That was Andy's knock. Yeah, Andy didn't win one. That's what sucks about Andy too. He heard it's the year he was basically an

MVP candidate. He broke his thumb off. AJ McCarron came in. We almost won a playoff game, but that sucked for Andy. He had a hell of a year. It was crazy how fast thumb off. AJ McCarron came in. We almost won a playoff game, but that sucked for Andy. He had a hell of a year. It was crazy how fast time goes. AJ was finna sign that big deal with Cleveland. Something happened with the paperwork. Then he don't get no deal.

That was a weird situation. He goes somewhere else and don't get the start. Now he's 17 for 17 in the XFL. Is he XFL Yeah Battle Hogs He's killing it Yeah I know The Rock was even

Said something about him right Yeah His whole story How he wants his kids to watch him play That was pretty cool Yeah He can slang it man He's a gamer

He's a gamer Big chest hat Leader and smart He's fucking one of the He don't have the Strongest arm Strongest Strongest arm.

That was a good one. But he can get the ball wherever he needs to go, but he can put you in the right position. He's very smart. Smart as hell. Yeah, they won the natty, right, when he was a fucking beast. Did McElroy win a natty? Ooh, I don't know.

At Alabama? Was he with Ingram? I'm not sure. Everyone runs together at Alabama. Yeah, exactly. You know, D'Amico didn't even play for Saban when I think about it. D'Amico was done in 05 or 06. Saban came in in, what, 07 or 08?

He was with Miami then. So who was he playing for? Who was his head coach at Alabama? McElroy did win an Addy. Dang. Congrats, Greg. Who was the head coach before Saban? Honestly, was it Shula?

Was it one of the Shulas? Yeah, I think it was Shula. Anyone know that? It's crazy to think of Alabama without Saban there. Damn near my whole life. Just like Clemson without Dabo. It feels weird. It was Shula.

Which Mike? Mm-hmm. Wasn't he the Bengals coach for a minute back in the day? One of the Shulas. What's this? This is the list. You talking about Nick Saban? Yeah, Mike Shula.

He was there for nine years. And Alabama was not what Alabama is now. No. What were they like? I don't remember what they were like. They was alright. They recruited me when I came out of Alabama. They was shitting though too. That was when Florida was

running the SEC. Oh yeah, Florida had a run. Man, they had so much talent. Florida, Georgia. Georgia Tech had a little run at times. I used to like watching them play, too. Did LSU win in Addie was saving during that time? Did they? Before Les Miles, right?

Yeah, with Flynn. Oh, yeah, that was Flynn's year. Okay, right after Jamarcus. Jamarcus leaves, Flynn comes in, steps in, wins in Addie that year. Yeah. Who'd they beat in the finals? Ohio State. Really? Yeah, I think it was Ohio State they beat, didn't they? They're one of, they're what? I don't know, actually.

They're one of the only teams that has been good, like, since 2000 pretty consistently. Through different coaches. Have they ever, that's what I mean. Have they ever had, like, a couple down years? Aside from getting suspended. Now, with our old buddy, Coach O. No, I mean Ohio State. Oh, has Ohio State had down years?

Yeah. I mean, when they got suspended from play, but they still went undefeated. My third year, we lost like four games, my junior year. Oh, shit. We were trying to figure out a quarterback situation throughout the whole process. And then we ended up beating Michigan. We weren't supposed to beat them because we were really not that good.

We beat Michigan at home, and that kind of catapulted us into the offseason. That helped a lot. Then we won our bowl game, too, but it helps to win that last game. In 2011, they won 6-7. After Trestle, I think there were some struggles, too. Luke was named interim. He was a tough deal.

He got named interim, and he was coaching. Ty's going to poop his pants. We're about to wrap this sucker up anyway, but I don't want anything to happen right next to Conor. You got Ty running? Make it, Ty. PTSD. Good luck, Ty. I've been there.

Love you, Ty. No one going that bad for 10, 15 minutes. Oh, no. Is my bag in there? Ty, my bag will smell. I've got to drive home with that. Oh, no. He's running like that Grim Reaper at the coronation,

crawling through the hallway. That's what he looked like. That was just another priest or something, right? Yeah something right yeah we have that picture heavy some people were saying it might be queen i don't know if it's all this pack watch this right here oh what is that what is that is that like a deacon who is that people are not happy you think he knew he was on camera here she definitely trying to do something i i assume it's a trap it's a trap also what's in the arm that That's like a. Stick? The thing they carry around.

Staff. Staff. That's the thing too. The Grim Reaper walks with its thingy. All the time. What do you mean? It uses it while it's walking. Like a walking stick.

Kind of. And that guy just had it floating. That guy was just holding it like this. Yeah. Grim Reaper's got a limp. That guy's a mark. Yeah, exactly. That guy's a mark.

You said the Grim Reaper has a limp? Yeah. Yeah. Where'd you learn that? What do you mean it's death yeah tone before we wrap this up have you figured out um how many times a week and why you stand naked over a mirror to try to tell once every sunday night what's that what's the old saying you're trying to debunk uh ass between your hole in the ground yep you can't tell't tell the difference. Mm-hmm. Okay. Have we figured it out yet? What's that?

I don't know if Pac-Man knows that you do this three times a week. No, Nair every Sunday night. You Nair your butt cheeks? Yep. Yeah. And your balls? No, no. Everything about it?

Just the cheeks. So you just put Nair on, and then do you wipe it off, and the hair is magically gone? Yeah, that's how Nair works. So some kind of chemical that has to be great for you. That's how Nair works, yeah. I don't understand how it works either. You following this back? I've never used Nair.

No, me either. I would imagine it hurts. Try it out. Does it burn? Apparently it does. Especially right in your anus. No, no. It's going to burn your ass.

No, no. Just the cheeks, I said. Just the cheeks. Tape the butthole so no Nair gets in there. You say you tape it? Painter's tape, actually. Do you tape it for him, Conman? Oh, no.

I will if he needs me to. You're a good friend. Blue like that. Blue painter's tape. Oh, yeah. I have a ton of that at home. That's not very strong? Oh, no. I will if he needs me to. You're a good friend. Blue painters tape. Oh, yeah. I have a ton of that at home. That's not very strong, though, man. That's just so you can line up the corners. Exactly. That's some of that electric tape. You need some duct tape, man. Get in there.

Will you pull it off? That would actually be a good, easy wax. Like Steve Carell. Is that 40-year-old virgin? Yes, it is. Just one wax. He doesn't get the full wax. So he had to get waxed in real life for that. Oh, yeah.

Yes, he did. That was not acting. That was not his reaction. It had to be. Yeah. You think he told him to go take the rest off afterwards? You ever watch behind the scenes of that? No.

That's what I meant, yeah. Oh, put him off. It's funny. Really? What happened? Oh, he... It's basically everything they use in the behind the scenes, they use in the movie, but just the buildup, putting it on, like, all right, it's going to happen,

and then cut, or rolling, I mean, sorry. That would hurt a lot. Oh, my God. Especially, he was like, he has that old school burly man, three inches of chest hair over his whole body. Yeah, he's got a sweater. He's old New England. Is that what that is?

I don't know. He lives in New England, I think. Yeah, he lives in Mass. I think he lives in Scituate. What is that? Really, really nice beach town. Is it Gloucester? No, no. It's actually the opposite side. It's a really nice beach town. Just past Fall River? In the south shore. No, it's... Is it by Bill Rickles?

No, definitely not by Bill Rickles. Are Ben Affleck and J-Lo going to move back to the Boston area? I don't know. Maybe that's what they were arguing about. You guys think they were arguing. He just slammed the door a little bit with a little bit of emphasis. Look, I don't think they were arguing. I don't know if anyone that's what they were arguing about. You guys think they were arguing. He just slammed the door a little bit with a little bit of emphasis. Look, I don't think they were arguing. I don't know if anyone noticed this, but they had coffee.

Was there a Dunkin' logo on there? No, there wasn't. So, yeah, Ben's going to be pissed. Yes. The best is people think you guys, there was a video. For anyone that hasn't seen it, there's just Ben and J-Lo getting into a car, right? And Ben opens the door for her. And you guys thought they were upset at each other because he kind of slammed it. And once she

got in, I think he's pissed at the paparazzi. Definitely. I also don't think he's pissed at her too because she actually reaches out to hold his hand. You can kind of see it right before. It's right here with his hand, how he closes his door and he swings his arm. It's great. He's mad at them, I think.

Look at that coffee. Photographers, watch his look here Like you want to say and then he actually does yeah, I'm like what come on. Yeah, he's they're not they're doing great So you can see the hand here ready here. Here comes the hand. Okay, hold on. Come here Yeah, but see he's just already pissed off. Plus if you're pissed off, you're not opening the door Maybe he's pissed because maybe do who parked the car. That's a red right there. I could get towed He's my upset about that. Well,, we only are seeing this one camera shot. How many paparazzi do you think are there?

Four or five? At least. Ten. Something that's not dunking. Go get a fucking coffee. And then they put it on TikTok. At some point, they're fine. They're America's sweethearts. Are they? Yeah, because Ryan Reynolds is Canadian.

Bingo. What about Gosling? Gosling's not married. Ryan Gosling? Who's Gosling with? Gosling's not married. Exactly. Ryan Gosling, he's married? No, he has a kid with Ava Mendez. Also Canadian, I believe. Oh, he's got, really?

I think so. He has a kid with a girl from Hitch? Ava Mendez? Isn't that Ava Mendez? Will Smith's girlfriend in Hitch? I think so, yeah. Eva Legoria, that's old school. Yeah, but Eva Mendez, that's who she is.

Yeah, that's Will Smith's girlfriend from Hitch. Yes. Good, we have it settled. Yeah. I didn't. Yeah, that's Will Smith's girlfriend from Hitch. Yes. Good, we have it settled. Yeah. I didn't know they had a baby. I think so. Probably a couple babies. Oh, look how fast.

Is that young Jamie back there? This is amazing. Oh, so they are married. They are married. Are they? I don't know about marriage, but definitely partner. For, damn, 12 years? She is awesome in The Other Guys with Mark Wahlberg.

Oh, my gosh. But what we've learned about this here is. Not all first-rounders. Jeez, that's such a good. Canadian superstar actors are better at relationships than American superstar actors. Is that true? Call me alert. It sounds like it so far.

There's so many. There's so many good ones. I stayed every six months. I'm like, that's an underrated movie. Unbelievable. We found a priest who's trying to vote for Ralph Nader. When my truck got stolen with a big mic in the voice. Yeah, yeah.

I got 15 texts from people asking me, big mic in the voice. You have deer lips in there. Dirty mic. Dirty mic. Yeah, I know. That's my problem. It's hard to remember exact lines from that because they're really good. There's a bunch of them.

When Will Smith, or sorry, Will Ferrell, they're in the pub together, and then he has to sing in that chorus. He just goes back and forth it's just bizarre it's all just so bizarre walberg plays that character well too he does that was one that's probably his best comedy ever yeah you probably right i heard he's did he sell that giant house that he has the golf course on it's up for sale i don't know i thought he took a million dollars the other day he's fucking he was it like 80 to 100 million dollars? It was something crazy. Well, he bought it for like five, and so he's making. And he obviously added a bunch of shit, but he's making a ton of money.

Why is he moving? Where's he going? I think he's making 80. He's selling for like one something, ain't he? Damn. Where's he going? Mars, I think. Boston.

He's coming home. Mark Wahlberg. Oh, he just sold it for 55 mil. Oh. Yeah, so he was asking for 87. He dropped it from 87, or he had it at 87, and he ended up selling it for 55 mil. Oh. Yeah, so he was asking for 87. He dropped it from 87, or he had it at 87, and he ended up selling it for 55. But yeah, he bought it for like five or 10 mil. There's no way he's got more than 55 in that, right?

I mean, the taxes alone are probably $5 million a year. Oh, that golf course is pretty sweet that he built it. It is very sweet. It's right in the heart of it. What is it, bar three, right? Yeah. Like four holes. I mean, I'm a big fan of properties like that that They have multiple outbuildings and courts and you have this.

That's what I love. They say just like a pool, if you build a golf course on your property, though, you always get the money that you put into it back. No. Yeah. I have heard that many times. And it's true. Is it?

I don't know. Especially in California. 100% return on investment. Diggs, we're going to wrap this sucker up. What was your favorite part of the day? Don't worry, boys. I'm not going to go around to everybody. I know you might have thought I was.

What did you enjoy the most about today? Probably when we ruined Ross Chastain's Heisebuka. Kubota? Kubota. Heisebuka also. Not after he held his feet to the fire 38. Well, that's all part of it. But, yeah.

How many times did we come back to John's sponsorship? It was four times we asked. So you raised your hand, Con Man, when I was about to end it with him, I think. And Con Man raised his hand like I got something good. I was like, oh, this is going to be good. Con definitely has something. I could see the look on his face. And then he just freaks out and asks him about why, if you have a D or not.

And I knew he had to have a Kubota deal. Like, he went, hey, guys, like, sure, this is fun games, but we're getting paid like $3 million for these guys. Once I did, you know, remember, like remember this guy's a huge fan of the show, I figured it was free reign to just, hey. You're right, though. That's right. Yeah, you're right. He's one of us.

He's one of the guys. He knows we're just fucking with him. Good for him. I appreciate him. He was the man. He was fun. Tomorrow's going to be fun. Tomorrow's a huge one.

Friday. Got some good guests lined up, don't we? Pack, huge guests. We have like four or five. Oh, you're not here tomorrow, are you? I'm not here tomorrow. You going to play golf? No. Got some good guests lined up, don't we, Pac? Huge guests. We have like four or five. Oh, you're not here tomorrow, are you? I'm not here tomorrow. You going to play golf? No.

Got a big track meet tomorrow. State Championship. Oh, there we go. How old? How old is your daughter? High school. Junior. It's her junior year.

She need to break, what does she need to break? I want to say 14-2. All right. 100 hurdles. She run 300 hurdles. She need to break 43 flat. Okay. Let She run 300 hurdles. She need to break 43 flats. She's going into the heat

third fastest. It'll be good. She'll be good. That's got to be fun. I love why your kids got to be pumped when they have you there. You're very vocally positive, which is awesome. When I see your videos you post, you're jumping around and cheering for them. It's awesome. Keep doing it. How we practice? like you're jumping around and cheering for them, it's awesome. Yeah, practice hard.

Keep doing it. Practice how we practice. We go to game, man, I don't say too much. Let them do what they do. Let them have fun. Because all the work

we done did during the week, shit, Sunday, I'm just cheering them on. Saturday and Fridays, I'm just cheering them on letting them do what they do. It's how it should be.

It's probably how it should be. So it's not always this situation. Parents can get upset at people and kids and it's not fun to watch. So, yeah, keep doing it like you're doing, man. I'll be back here tomorrow. Manning the ship while Pat is back home. I'm sure he'll probably dial in once or twice maybe, hopefully,

if everything's going well with McKenzie. But I appreciate all the boys back there behind the glass, everybody. Don't want to start naming names because I always forget a couple of them, but you guys know who you are. Evie, I see you over there around the corner. Hell, yeah. Zeke, Bruce, Dirty. Big Bill.

Is that Big Bill? I can't see through the glass. You guys don't have as many lights on. Bill's back there. As you used to. That's Nick staring right at me. I can see him just glaring at me. Bill's over there.

Bruce is over here down. Bruce, you got a great pickleball stroke. I don't know if you showed. What? Why are you shaking your head? I thought you were going to say. Bruce, I don't know your relationship status, but told you in arizona if not you need to send videos of yourself to your girlfriend playing pickleball i think she would be very impressed she would like to know like yeah

i got a dude so bruce if you haven't done that you should probably i will yeah okay good so you're still together yeah play some tennis sometimes you know oh so she's seen the stroke oh yeah she knows what she has. I've dragged her to a co-ed doubles championship more than once. She's your partner? Yeah, in those events. Co-ed doubles. I know what I'm saying.

So she's a big tennis player too? No, she's not great, but I just poach and cheer. She whoops his ass in bowling every day, by the way. Yeah, she's better bowling than me and probably throwing a frisbee. Oh. Don't get out to the frolfing course. And we'll see what happens over there. Yep.

All right. All right, Bruce. All right, thanks, man. Everyone, appreciate it. We'll be back tomorrow. We have tons of great guests. See you tomorrow. Bye.