The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 904 - NFL Wrap Up With Ian Rapoport, NBA Playoff Chatter With Shams Charania, & AJ Hawk LIVE In The ThunderDome

Episode Date: May 15, 2023

On today’s show, AJ Hawk, and the boys fill in for Pat while he is on paternity. They discuss the Washington Commanders sale officially going through to Josh Harris and his group, what that means for the Commanders moving forward, what Dan Snyder does next, and they recap all of this weekend’s NBA Playoffs and NHL Playoffs action. Joining the progrum to chat about the Commanders sale, Matt Ryan joining CBS but not officially retiring, Quinnen Williams being unhappy with his current situation with the Jets, what’s next for Carson Wentz, and more is NFL Network Senior Insider, Ian Rapoport (20:15-46:07). Later, NBA Insider for The Athletic, Stadium, and Run It Back on Fanduel TV, Shams Charania joins the show to chat about Ja Morant’s current situation and what kind of suspension we could be looking at, all the coaching changes in the NBA, what he’s expecting from the rest of the playoffs, the draft lottery and implications, and more (2:05:44-2:24:26). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the Pat McAfee Show. Monday, May 15th. I am A.J. Hawk. Continuing to sit in here for Pat as he takes care of his beautiful baby girl back home with Sam. Sports! We're having it all weekend, right boys? There really were a lot of sports. I know Jason Day, boom, he pops off and wins the Byron Nelson yesterday. His first time, his first win in five years, so congrats to Jason Day. And I believe the first tournament he ever won, 2010 Byron Nelson. How about it?

Is that right? Full circle. Full circle. He beat Vertigo. Full circle. That's Tone Diggs right here. Diggs, I appreciate you, buddy. Toxic Table right here.

Obviously, Ty Schmidt, Boston Connor. Everyone behind the glass. Zito, Evie. Every time I talk about naming everybody, and I forget a few of you, but I see you back there, Nick, Dirty, Bruce. What? Who did I miss? Bill.

Bill. Bill back in the coding cave. Mitt. Mitt taking care of some business outside, I think. Right? Yeah, he just did. I think he's back in here. Mitt's the enforcer around here, guys.

Mitt takes care of whatever needs taking care. What about you guys? How was your Mother's Day weekend? What did you guys do? Oh, it was wonderful. I did absolutely nothing. It's like every mother's dream is to do absolutely nothing on Mother's Day. Yeah, exactly. And obviously the Celtics

3-30, middle of the day. Had to watch. How about it? Was it Marcus Smart who said it was like a movie, watching him play? Yes, I believe so. 51 points, most ever in a Game 7? Which was just set three weeks ago. Steph Curry against the Kings. He went

for 50. Tatum went for 51. I saw some Celtics fans like, hey, there's three minutes left. We're up by 30 points. Why the hell is this guy still in the game? But actually, he was specifically going for it because he knew as soon as he hit his last three, held up the 50 number. But no, it was just an unbelievable performance. We get to bury Philadelphia once again. We own them.

And now we have the final four teams. It really starts to heat up. I'm pretty jacked up, I'll be honest. Well, you should be. I guess we have four teams left here when you look at the NBA situation going on. But what does ESPN, ABC carries every game, right? Yeah. What matchup do you think they're looking for in the finals?

What do you think, Oliver? I'm just wondering what the general public would want to see. Joker's two-time MVP. People love seeing him. Obviously, the Heat. Jimmy Butler's an awesome story. What they've been able to do. They want Lakers-Celtics every year.

So bad. Yeah. Battle for 18. Both have 17 championships. So if they're playing each other, it would be for the solo lead of most championships of any team. Which is any time you get LeBron and Austin Reeves. Yeah, of course.

The young pups in Boston. The new guards, some people are saying, because Tatum, you know, he hasn't taken that final step because they went to the finals last year, his first ever appearance. They lose 4-2 in six games. And now they're hoping, you know, Tatum, maybe them versus LeBron. Maybe it goes seven games. And now they're starting the know tatum maybe them versus lebron maybe it goes seven games and now they're starting the games a little earlier pretty nice a little earlier what do you mean

there's that's like a new thing 8 30 yeah they're instead of what 905 or something 9 30 10 yeah so that's smart man yeah now the finals well it sucks for you know lakers fans or people who are staying up a little later but uh everyone you know in la when when they're playing, it's 5.30 there. So I do wonder. Tough to get there, I guess. Yeah, probably. They're fine. You're in the finals.

You can figure it out. Oh, yeah. That's like the Heat game. The Heat look like there's 4,000 people in the stands until 10 minutes in, right? Yeah. You wonder if the Lakers make it, if Jack will be able to call off of work and get there on time. You're thinking him and Kiefer Sutherland's dad.

Didn't he sit by him? Donald. Donald. Don. Those guys are two legends. Yeah, they are, but let's not of work and get there on time. You're thinking him and Kiefer Sutherland's dad. Didn't he sit by him? Donald. Donald. Those guys are two legends. Yeah, they are, but let's not put Jack and Donald Sutherland. I'm not knocking Donald Sutherland at all. You are. No, no, you're not.

I'm not knocking Jack. Yeah, you are. I bet a lot of the younger generation doesn't know Jack Nicholson is. Probably not. They know probably, oh, that's the face of that guy they show at the Lakers game sometimes. Right? They've seen Departed. Oh know probably, oh, that's the face of that guy they show at the Lakers game sometimes, right? They've seen Departed. Oh, yes, Departed. What's the last movie Jack Nicholson's been

in, though? Departed? The Bucket List? Yeah, could have been The Bucket List. I think he's officially retired. I think he's officially done. He needs to come make some cameos in some certain shows. Like what? I don't know. If there was a documentary or if there was a docu-series... Like 9-1-1 Lone Star? No. That'd be cool.

Maybe that, but who would play Dan Snyder? I think Jack Nicholson would play Dan Snyder in a docuseries. What do you think? That would be sweet, actually. Dan Snyder, obviously, the tip of my brain because they have the sale of their team. It's not completed, right? But they have agreed to terms or agreed to something with Josh Harris' ownership group, right? Yeah.

It's basically a done deal now. And I can't believe that we're actually at the day where the cockroach who is Dan Snyder is out of the NFL because there was a while where I thought there's no way they're getting rid of this guy. He's getting out and selling for reportedly over $6 billion. It's unbelievable how the guy

can be reviled and hated by everyone. This is like a punishment. It's like, hey, you're losing your NFL team, but we will give you $6 billion so that you can kind of just go away forever. Does he get to keep the varsity commander's jacket? I mean, I would imagine he probably

borrowed it from the pro shop and he probably gave it back because he's like, hey, this is still good. You can sell it. It's all good. Don't worry about it. You don't even have to wash it. That probably would make a lot of sense. I do believe they made the players buy them. It's actually funny you say that. The Commanders actually sent Pat one. It was one out of 500.

One of those boxes. This is what Carson Wentz was wearing in this promo shot when he signed with the team. Remember? I think you loved that picture. Oh yeah. Well, Carson Wentz actually did have one of those on. He also had that orange and mustard yellow suit, if you recall. The Hall of Fame jacket I believe he was wearing.

It might have been. Basically. Oh, yeah, it was. The Hall of Fame jacket. Where does Dan Snyder go from here? So Josh Harris comes in, which this is long overdue for this franchise to sell. It seemed like we talk about all the poop pipes bursting. Of course.

You talk to guys that have played there over the years, just issue after issue from the top down. Now they seem to be going in the right direction. But where does Dan Snyder go? You think he just rides off into the sunset? Yes. Is he going to try to go buy another professional team somewhere? I don't know.

Not in the NFL. We know he's not getting in the NFL. Like A.B.'s league? I don't know. Maybe. Maybe a soccer team. A.B.'s league. I'm sure he probably has a couple of pickleball teams.

Everyone owns one of those. But don't like whatever league you, if it's a serious league, whatever league you go into, the owners have to vote you in or allow you to approve. AB got into his league, so I'd imagine Dan Snyder could get into that one. Okay, that's what I said. A serious league. I don't know if any serious leagues soccer. You don't think soccer would let him in? I think the

Premier League would. I mean, Ryan Gosling's in there. No, Reynolds. Reynolds, yeah. And he's not in the Premier League just yet. But he will be, right? But they're on their way. Absolutely. I think there're two leagues below it. But Ryan Reynolds is, for all we know, a good guy. Has some good equity with people, with the community? Yeah, good mana.

You're saying Dan Snyder has no good mana? I don't think Dan Snyder has much good mana. If you're asking where he's going, I assume he's going to check out that stuff that's going on in San Francisco. If I had any guess whatsoever, there's just things going on over there. But also, who knows? He'll disappear. Maybe he comes back in a year or two and he says,

I want an NBA team now. But I do think he needs to step aside, let someone else fuck up, let someone else kind of be the villain in the sports-owning world. And then, alright Dan, we'll welcome you back. You can have the Arizona or Phoenix Suns. I mean, ESPN is not selling it, but in an example, you can have the Washington Wizards.

Oh, okay, yeah. What are you saying, Diggs? I just don't see him ever owning a team again. I don't either. I think if he wanted to buy a soccer team tomorrow, they'd be okay with it. Oh, no question. What does an MLS soccer team do? I'm not talking MLS.

I mean, even like premier league. So I just looked up. Real Madrid's $5.1 billion and Barcelona's $5 billion. Barcelona. Oh, could you imagine Dan Snyder in Barcelona? They had some money issues, actually. Barcelona? In La Liga.

Yeah. Because of the, what was that? Because of COVID. I forgot. And so they may actually, you know, if he really wanted to. And if we know anything about Dan Snyder or what they've said is true, he'll love the nude beaches down there. Yeah.

He'll love it. Allegedly. From what I hear, these nude beaches are usually not populated with the type of people you think that would populate them. What do you mean? Like, I just feel like some people that feel very comfortable being super naked on a beach.

Aren't good looking. Maybe not have like, sometimes they don't have great hygiene or like just you know. They may not take care of themselves as well as you may think they do. A lot of grove worms and big bushes walking around on these beaches. That's all I'm saying. Just be alert

if you find yourself in one of those places. What do you think Dan's going to do? I don't know what Dan's going to do, but it made me think who is the next? He was the most, like, the biggest villain when it comes to sports ownership, right? Yeah, one of. I mean, there's been some. One of.

Now that Dan Snyder's getting out of the game, who is next in line? Not a good villain, but, like, maybe that people don't have as a positive outlook. So you're asking which of the NFL owners are upset that Dan's gone because he had such a bright light on him. Now they're going to be looking for the next one. Just the NFL or all sports? I would take football, basketball. Baseball is a little tougher.

The A's maybe, I guess you could argue. Their ownership career is just the cheapest scumbag of all time. Were they saboteurs to their own team just to get to Vegas? Yeah, I think this has been a long con for several years now where they just refuse to spend money. They get good guys

or good young prospects in trades always get rid of them. It's the Major League. It's the part of Major League. It is literally Major League. Their payroll, I can't remember what it is, but it is so low it's laughable. And then you see there are more people going to AA baseball games

than there are going to A's and N's. Definitely the Bananas, right? Savannah Bananas. Savannah Bananas. I got questions about them. Their clips pop up all the time to me. Yeah. So that's minor league.

What is it? Single A, double A? I don't think they're associated with minor league. But they're playing. It's all real games against real opponents? College. College summer ball. Is it?

Yeah, it's like gimmick baseball. I think it's like a globe drive. But is the whole league in on it? They're always playing that one team. They always participate with the other team, the party boys or something. Is that the pink and black team, the worst cutoffs? Yeah, I think so. But they have these whole – what does the whole game look like?

Because I see a clip of a dude. Good question. All of a sudden he's throwing – he has choreographed dance with everybody in the infield and outfield. The guy's on 15-foot stilts and he fires a strike. Is that a real strike? Does the game keep going? He takes the stilts off next pitch? How does that work?

The game keeps going. I know they actually, similar to what you're saying, I saw them use a 10-foot bat on one of the at-bats. I think it's just understood, like, hey, this isn't a baseball game. This is an entertainment game, and we happen to be throwing a baseball. But they're still competing, right? I saw them say, yeah, the stuff we have is planned out like when we do all these little things but then like then we just play it after that yeah yeah then they just keep

it going i i need to go to a game they get packed i mean there's been a few that i've seen on twitter similar to what you're saying and it's completely full like i think this is kind of a draw for a lot of baseball fans not in like a serious like like, hey, I want to go watch a great baseball game. Take your kids and go do something you haven't done before. My kids would lose their mind. I don't think they've ever seen anything that they did, but it gets me intrigued. I'm like, man, what are they doing? Because the guys look like they're good players as well.

They've also brought in, like I saw one game, Johnny Damon was playing. They brought in pros to play against them. It's a college summer league? They're playing here in Indy against the party. Cape, yeah. So it's a college summer league? They're playing here in Indy against the party. Cape League or whatever? End of June. Do they travel around playing that team? It's not like

the Globetrotters. I know that. They say it's not. But it basically... The Coastal Plain League's West Division, okay. So if they won three cup championships, are those real? I mean, the Petit Cup is no fucking joke. Those are tits. Yeah, I would not say that this isn't a real league because if they're rolling out the Petit Cup for every winner,

then, yeah, we can say this is very serious baseball. Well, the jury's still out. Maybe we'll talk to one of those guys from the squad at some point. Yeah, I believe there was a story, Joe Pagliano, he shared it about the owner of the team. He bought it for, like, pennies or something, very, very cheap. And then he was like, I have this vision of a funny kind of baseball league where people can do all this gimmick, the stilts, the massive bat,

the dance moves, whether it's in the batter's box or the catcher. Have you seen the one of the catcher and the ump dancing together? There was one where the production value is awesome. They had this one dude running in from outside of the – behind the home run fence. They chased him singing like Arms Wide Open or like a Celine Dion song, and the whole stadium got into it. And this dude was like sprinting all the way to his at-bat from 700 yards away. Pretty cool.

And someone running with like a Steadicam on him the whole time. I couldn't believe it. Maybe Dan Snyder buys them. That'd be sweet. He doesn't really seem like the fun, jocularity type of owner. What do you think the commander's facility is like today? You mean inside, what they feel like? Like, hey, we're pumped?

Do you think a lot of the front office employees are throwing a party today? Oh, yeah. I bet there's music bumping. Remember, Jason Wright has said from when he got there, they've had to kind of figure out craft, like, hey, who should be here? Who shouldn't? Who do we need to bring in? Who can we kick out?

And he said that finally he feels like he's going in the right direction, but it took a while. Yeah. Is that a worry, though, for Jason Wright? Because he has finally saved them. He's brought them out of the darkness, the dump that it was. And now he was an emergency control guy who worked for a company that would go save companies.

He kind of did his job, right? Like once Batman defeats the Joker, Batman, what does he do? And that's kind of what Jason Wright's in now. Now they build the brand-new stadium. He continues to make money for the team, you know, probably acquiring real estate, doing all the things, trying to build it up to where when someone comes to a game here, we keep them around and we get to collect that money. It doesn't go to outside people.

I mean, you hope it's not going to happen because we've had him on, and he's a great guy. But isn't there also a chance that Josh Harris comes in? I mean, he's obviously done a good job, so maybe he stays. But he just cleans house, and all these guys that uh he's hired like they're just going to replace him i mean like wouldn't you do that if you bought if you say you became ownership of something i guess you got to sit there and see hey it'd be tough to figure out who deserved who who's right for this team who's not but you do want to bring it you're definitely gonna have at

least a handful of people you want to bring in there are your people that's why i don't know if it's like super celebrated like i'm sure on the day-to-day people are like, oh, I can be much more. Like, you know, it's not like you have to look over your shoulder every second and be on pins and needles if like you thought Dan Snyder was a huge asshole or whatever. But I'm sure, you know, anytime like a team gets sold, there's got to be some sense of like, oh, shit, like am I going to have a job next week?

I don't know if I will. Got to prove yourself to the next owner, right? Absolutely. They probably do what? The, not exit interviews, but they probably interview everybody and they'll snip a couple people off. There's so many people, though. How many people you got to talk to?

Well, and Jason Wright said that that's kind of what they've already done. Yeah. You know, like, because they went through the interviews with everybody there and they were trying to, you know, build the new commander culture. And they did kind of trim the fat of the people who are old regime kind of maybe not perfect fits for washington so maybe he does bring in five or six guys we're talking kill list no well if i know president right yeah what during this whole process he went to bat for everyone who for sure who's kind of like who they like hey we who's a soldier for the cause someone that's on the right track, knows the vision.

Yeah, succession. I mean, it's probably exactly to Zito's point about the kill list. That's probably exactly what they've already done. No, I know, Conman, you've already seen the latest episode of Succession, and you say it is good. Yeah, a lot happens. I think we move the plot forward in a much-needed way just because we're already at the eighth episode. There's only two episodes left after this.

It's like, hey, where are we going here? They've already appointed the co-CEOs, what's Shiv going to do, what's going to happen with Tom, like all that type of stuff. And you do get a few answers. And I personally love the episode. Big Tom and Greg episode. Oh, they're not going to be a fan of that episode. Starts with them.

Hope you like sushi. Yep, it's an election night. How tall is little buddy, Greg, in real life? Big son of a bitch. Six, five. Yeah. Is he? On his knees.

The dude is an absolute star, but has he done anything else yet? And does he have anything in the pipeline? Yeah, he was in Sky High on Disney Channel. Oh, he's a Disney kid? Yeah, he was a neon superhero in that. And I believe he's been in some other things. Wombscams, Tom. He actually was in a show called The Last Kingdom for about 10 minutes

and then they shoved a nail down his throat and killed him. But they've been in other things. Perks of being a wallflower. You checking out the IMDB right now? Classic. This is Cousin Greg, right? Greg Hirsch. Yeah, Tony, I don't believe he was in Perks of being a wallflower. Different guy who looks just like him.

No, he's in The Simpsons. He was in an episode of The Simpsons, Bird Girl. Playing Greg Hirsch. He does a lot of voiceover work, huh? Yeah. Why not? Easy to do. Avenues.

I mean, we all know these shows. I mean, if you want to make it, you get into voice. Can you imagine how awesome it would be? People, they send out your auditions, and you just record it on your computer or your phone and send it in. Dude, Bradley Cooper makes bank off of Guardians of the Galaxy. Oh, really? He's the raccoon guy.

So does Vin, probably. And Vin just says one word, actually. Yeah, he has one sentence the whole entire show, and he has to say it in like 10 different languages. That'd be pretty sweet. The one actor was married to Amy Poehler. He makes a ton of money on voiceover. Will Arnett? will arnett has a really unique cool voice that i was with yeah john cena does too how many commercials i can do see them poehler were together for a little bit i think yeah a

little bit of time see them but were they really yeah yeah during parks and rec i think i'm not sure if that's true or not digs but it was during train wreck tony it's a show completely irrelevant i remember that show i remember no that's not Amy Poehler, by the way. That's Amy Schumer you're thinking. No, no. He's thinking Schumer. Oh, I'm thinking Amy Schumer. This is crazy how many different Amy's we're thinking of.

A lot of balls right now. Yeah, Amy Poehler, she was Saturday Night Live. Amy Schumer, stand-up comedian, fornicates with John Cena's character in that movie. There you go, yeah. Was LeBron in that movie? Yes, he was. LeBron was in that movie. Oh, it was great in that movie.

Yeah, Bill Hader, they were best friends. Is he going to win another championship in that movie? Yes, he was. LeBron was in that movie. Oh, it was great in that movie. Yeah, Bill Hader, their best friend. Is he going to win another championship? Is he? I don't know. I'm guessing Pac-Man. He'll be here tomorrow. I'm guessing he feels pretty good about the Lakers' chances. The Nuggets are the favorite in that season.

But can't AD should be able to stop Joker, right? I don't know. Not stop him, but, you know, do something. I know Pac-Man thinks he can. So that's all that matters. He'll be passing that to him. Joker doesn't mess around, though. I know Joker, like, he can. So that's all that matters. He'll be passing that field. Joker doesn't mess around, though. I know Joker, like, he may not, like.

His brothers might be there, too. Yeah, like, Joker. And you know his brothers are fucking dogs. I mean, yeah. I love the whole situation that goes on with him. Like I said, how he meanders around. He just rumbles around the court, lumbers around, and just is so weirdly, like. Correct.

I don't know. Weirdly athletic and has, has like he's like doing he's like a dancer in there how he spins and move he always finds a little gap and he has makes it look easy when everything he's doing is almost impossible yeah he also just makes like the most ridiculous passes not even just for like a center like just for seven foot yeah i think he's seven one he's lanky and he brings the ball up like a point guard. Yeah, he's unbelievable. There really hasn't been a player his size that does what he does. I mean, he gets triple doubles

every other night. It's ridiculous. It's impressive. Diggs. Sometimes he goes through his legs too when he's dribbling. You mean the ball? Or people run through his legs? He's so tall. Both. Yeah, he does do that. Not common for a big man. I mean, the fact that everything he does is not... I don't even look at him as a big man because he's so... because he's everywhere. He just has the ball. Here, give me the ball up top, everyone. He's not common for a big man. I mean, the fact that everything he does is not... I don't even look at him as a big man because

he's so... because he's everywhere. He just has the ball. Oh, here, give me the ball up top, everyone. I'll figure this out. And also, I said last week like, hey, you just stop Jokic and that's it. The Suns game that they won by 30 points or 25 points, whatever the hell it is, like, they really do have a pretty deep team. Even on the bench, they got guys

coming off. So, the Nuggets Lakers is going to be Celtics heat. You know, that'll be a nice so the Nuggets Lakers is going to be Celtics heat you know that'll be a nice series Nuggets Lakers is going to be wild yeah you think Celtics can beat the heat oh yeah I think they should that's the thing with the Celtics now it's kind of like whoever beats uh this or whoever wins the six or Celtics series should be the you know front runners in the rest of the uh you know tournament and obviously the Celtics are plus 100 to win the NBA championship so they should be able to get it done but I don't know why they're having the heat be that big of underdogs

because they've already kind of dismantled both teams in the first and second round but I think both of these series will go seven games at least six games. I think it's going to be an unbelievable final four of the NBA playoffs. That's the dream for the networks both to go seven games. This guy, he was a part of a big network.

Also, we want to thank him for the time he spent with us last week. Monday, Tuesday, he was here. Without further ado, this guy, what is it? He hosts the Insiders. What's the other one, too, that we talk about? The other show that he's doing.

The weekly wrap-up. he's doing. The weekly wrap-up. Bobby Flay. The weekly wrap-up. And then the cooking show he has as well. Came on here, hosted. Can do pretty much everything. There's not a job he can't do. Also owns a horse that ran the Kentucky Derby. Please welcome Ian Rapoport.

Yay! What's going on? Ian, what's up? Did anyone reach out to you that saw your pictures of you rowan when you were just super jacked back in the day you mean like any like women interested in the old body as opposed to anyone anyone i think you know anyone's probably man we we see you and we know no i mean yeah there were some people who were kind of like, you know, how do I get to have the body that you had back in the day? I mean, I get, you know, and I honestly, that doesn't happen a lot.

But notice a noticeable amount of people over the last couple of days. You know, obviously I've lost a lot of it. So there's really not much to say, but that was a, I did, I'll say this. I did have a rowing podcast reach out to me and want to have it on which i'll probably do so let's go do you still remember you still remember the old lingo and everything like how do you or do you have to brush up um yeah i will probably have to brush up a little bit i mean it was such a part of my life like four years two practices a day but uh it has been you know it has been a minute so yeah it has you know big news i'm sure that

you've been talking about and reporting on for months and months. So Washington commanders have agreed in principle on terms of a sale. What does that mean? When can this thing be finalized? And is there any question that this isn't going to go through when the owners vote on it? Okay, so second part first. It does not seem to be a question that this is going to go through. It's now a matter of when and not yet.

So, look, I mean, it's amazing. When these things happen, and this has been not months, but really years since Commanders fans have waited for Dan Snyder to be out, waited for a new owner, hoped for a new owner. Is it actually going to happen? You know, it's been headed in this direction for a while, but the Friday afternoon news that we got was

no Friday news dump. I think the moment that Commanders fans have been waiting for since before they were the Commanders, since they were that other team with that other name that wasn't good. That was a good name. The best name.

You really think so? Yeah. I mean, Washington Wild Hogs will have something to say about it. You think they changed it, Ian? You think the new owner was going to change it eventually? I asked that to people connected to the new owner, and basically the response was that's not something that's on the table. That's not something that we have discussed.

And to me, it's like all names are kind of whatever. something that's on the table like that's not something that we have discussed and I you know to me it's like all names are kind of whatever you know it's like if you use it enough they start to sound like what the name should be so I imagine eventually commanders will feel normal just like eventually the Washington football team felt normal but by the way it is not agreement in principle it is a signed contract. It's more than that. It's basically what this is, is Dan Snyder and Josh Harris and his partners have a firm, exclusive deal to sell the commanders to Josh Harris and his people, which include Mitch Rails. It includes, you know, smaller limited partners like Magic Johnson.

It's actually like a pretty, It's actually a pretty robust group. The next step is they present it to the NFL Finance Committee. The Finance Committee okays and there's a lot here. It's the biggest deal they've ever done team transaction wise. How much? $6.05 billion.

That's a lot. That's a lot of money. It's amazing's amazing talk about like investments like the numbers are only going up do you know how it works i know when people like a lot of times succession different things certain things are stock options how does this money work do you have any idea how the how the cash flows or what it works how it is um i am not smart enough to answer that like a real finance person although i am watching succession so i'm learning about their deal we'll see which way that goes is obviously i'm not going to spoil it for anyone but last week's episode was anyway it was a lot oh yeah spoilers no spoilers uh i

feel like we've reached the point now where you basically can't talk about any show on the internet ever because someone's gonna be like dude like i'm saving that to binge like yeah you certainly can't do it the day after the episode premieres but no at least a 24-hour window but i would argue for more because what we like to do is save the shows until we have all of them and then watch all oh sure that's the best way to do it no question um but no so i i imagine there is a uh you know it's it's all sort of fully guaranteed so there is a significant i believe a upfront portion a cash portion i just don't know enough to say how much that is but it's not like you know there really isn't a question

like is the money going to be there i mean these are very rich people these are you know people and josh harris who have owned a couple teams. They own the Sixers, own the Devils. I mean, this basically is at the point now where it's happening. I just thought initially that it was going to happen next week at the May meeting, but that sounds a little too ambitious. So it probably seems like what will happen this time is what happened when the Broncos were sold, which is they'll schedule a special league meeting maybe sometime around training camp or something like that, have the owners vote and finalize all of this.

Tony Diggs has a follow-up. Yeah, Ian, we were just talking about it. Do you know when owners, when they are buying NFL teams, do they normally come in and clean house? Does the team president, do they normally get let go? How does that work when new owners buy? Or do they normally just keep on and then the owners replaced? So I would say from what I would expect of the commanders, and this is sort of what's happened in a lot of different places, you don't come in and clean house.

You come in and evaluate for like a year. So I would say for the commanders, what's probably going to happen is Josh Harrison's people will come in. what's probably going to happen is Josh Harrison's people will come in. They will spend a year, a season and a little bit and, you know, season and off season, whatever it is, kind of just looking around and saying like, where do we stand? And I think from the football side, that's pretty clear. You know, if the football team is really good, if Sam Howell is what the commanders think, if Eric Biennium comes in and, and, you in and really, really helps as an offensive coordinator,

I mean, if they're in a good place, then I would imagine they'll keep being in a good place. If not, then you might see a new owner come in and make some changes. I would say a lot of times management-wise is probably – I don't know if it's going to be immediate, but he's run teams before. We just talked about it. Sixers and Devils certainly has a way he likes to do things. A lot of times, the people who are in management under the old owner,

in this case, Dan Snyder, either see the writing on the wall or are eventually replaced. I believe that everyone has a shot to keep doing what they're doing, but sure, there's going to be some turnover in management, no doubt about it. Boston Conner? Yeah, Rabshi, we saw today Matt Ryan joining CBS Sports as an analyst, but he's not retiring. Are there people in the NFL talking about how the Colts might curse quarterbacks because Carl Wentz also not on a team, Matt Ryan not on a team?

Are they done? Is there any shot that they get picked up whether that be before the season when training camp starts or maybe wait until maybe someone gets hurt and then they have to bring them into play? I mean, Phillip Rivers retired right after the Colts, which went to coach high school football, which is

kind of cool. There's a long lineage of quarterbacks that they signed and it just did not go great, which obviously is why they went and got Anthony Richardson, who you hope does go great. Well, he helped clean up. He helped clean up at that NFL rookie event. That's right.

Great guy. You know, I kind of like these stories because, like, I would imagine that he did not think one bit that anyone was watching, right? Like, there's no way he was like, oh, maybe one day someone will write a blog about this. Like I'm sure that's just kind of what he does. And I liked it. You know, like that's, you know, you got to go complete passes and get first downs and do all the things. But like that was at least a good sign that the starter they are going to spend so much money on and a lot of draft capital is a good human.

He's a good guy. Hell yeah. Good positive story that once coming from the media, right? About players. Is you're saying ian yeah there's not a lot of that oh it's easy we know car crashes pay the bills we know that well yeah i mean it's like we had that over the weekend we had the jalen hurts like leading the eagles to the super bowl and then quietly getting his master's degree like i i like heard some rumblings about it, but I was kind of like, nah, that doesn't seem right. But I thought that was kind of cool, too. Oh, yeah.

Todd Bowles got his degree. Yeah, Bowles finally did as well. Justin Fields. Did Stetson Bennett get his or not? I don't know. He was in college for a long time. Sounds like he was doing a little too much raising hail down there. That was his major.

You think, Ty? Mm-hmm. That's what I've heard. Ty's got something for you. There was a little – well, I want to answer the Colts thing too. Yes. So for Matt Ryan – I imagine for Matt Ryan, he says he's not retiring. I believe if he was, he might have to give back some of the guaranteed money.

So he's going to definitely not retire until the end of time. But taking a full-time job at cbs as an analyst you know you can always get back in the field if someone needs you but my guess is matt ryan has probably played his last football carson wentz is a much more interesting story to me he's not that old no he really is not um and you know it's not like he just fell off the face of the earth he just wasn't at a point where he could be the starter I think the questions are more like is he just based on the way he's wired like and he is sort of hardwired you know he's intense he's driven he wants it very bad could he be a backup I think that's more the question and you know there really aren't a lot of teams

right now looking for backups if anyone so I think what Wentz is going to do is just sit there, wait, and if there's a training camp injury, he's there to come in and lend some depth. But, you know, it's just there's not a lot of precedent for a quarterback this young who could be a very serviceable backup to still be out there. Ty Smith. Rapsheet, I think it was about an hour ago, Quinnen Williams updated his Twitter profile, and now it just says defensive tackle for dot, dot, dot.

Took the Jets out of there. We know he wants a new contract, and those negotiations have kind of been stalling or going back and forth. It's been a while. But he seems pretty pissed off right now. Do you have any update on that? Is this something that's going to get done? Yeah.

I mean, I'm reading the tea leaves. I imagine, you know, if you look at his twitter by his twitter account uh and it's interesting because you know i used to sort of like shrug this stuff off but this is i think we've learned like kind of real like this is a lot of times how it's real yeah that's how we communicate yeah it's how young people communicate a little bit more right than we're used to right Right. And some of us old people, too. But, yeah, I mean, it's not nothing. I do not think it's nothing. Now, I mean, could a deal get done?

The market is pretty well defined. I mean, he is a very, very, very good football player. And his stats compare more than favorably to Jeff Simmons. So you would think he'd end up as the highest paid, not named Aaron Donald. I mean, he is a, you know, great draft pick by the Jets, really good person and a great football player. I imagine it's going to get done eventually, but you know, from his perspective, I kind of understand too, because, you know, it's, you've seen all the guys get done. You've seen Jeff Simmons get done a really nice deal. Dexter Lawrence, nose tackle gets really, really good money and quinn and williams is sitting here like okay like

let's you know the market's well defined can we go i don't blame him at all if he's a little frustrated now there is time to get a deal like you know i don't how much time i don't know like when would be the deadline where they you know they gone too far and they're not going to get it done? I mean, usually these big money deals, you always see a couple right before a training camp. I think what happened in this case was all the defensive tackle deals got done already. Yep. So usually it's like, well, you've got to wait for this guy.

So let's say the quarterbacks that we talked about, like Justin Herbert and the Chargers will probably eventually do a deal, and then we sort of have talked about maybe Joe Burrow is waiting for him, and then maybe Mahomes after that. Like, there's a pretty decent chronology of when things might happen. Well, the defensive tackles are done. It's just Quinn and Williams. So, like, you could understand if he's like, okay, like, let's go.

So, I do not think it's nothing. Connor has something. Yeah, Rapshied, another kind of big move with another frustrated player over the weekend, Darius Smith getting traded from the Vikings to the Browns. When did this kind of happen? How did it happen? And also, the Vikings weren't planning on letting him go, right? But did something happen where he got fed up to the point where the Vikings

were like, we can't do this with this guy okay so two parts to this one and this actually was going on i thought this was going to happen like the wednesday of draft like i was you know i was sort of talking to the people involved and kind of ready for it and then it just didn't quite get there. Cause you know, you're talking about draft choices. So you wanted to know, like, if it's going to be for a 2023 draft pick, like you want it in place before the draft, obviously. So it didn't get done, but kind of kept tabs on it. And then it ended up happening Friday afternoon, a Friday night at like seven 30. And, you know, basically what happened here was he signed a three-year deal with the Vikings. He outplayed that deal, um, wanted a new deal.

And if you're the Vikings and you have a free agent, you just signed, you have a lot of guys who do a lot of money, um, including Daniel Hunter, um, and including Justin Jefferson. And maybe you don't want to say, well, we'll just rip up your deal with two years left. You know, you don't want to set that precedent, then trade is probably the best option. So, you know, they got some value back with a future pick swap. And, you know, I think what the, you know, Cleveland Browns did was, again, for maybe the third year in a row or maybe more, they added a really, really good pass rusher after the draft.

Usually it's Clowney. This time it wasn't Clowney. I mean, that is aowney. That is a big time guy to add in May when usually your roster is kind of set. Absolutely. Ian, what do you think about Sauce Gardner saying that OBJ was literally

trying to pick out his number almost with the Jets before he signed with the Ravens. Was it that close? I kind of thought he was going to the Jets too, honestly. It was, you know. Did something happen at the last minute? Did Baltimore step in with more cash? Yeah, yeah, Baltimore. And like, so with the Jets, I think what they were kind of offering was more of a deal

where he would prove it a little more. You know, hadn't played in a year, obviously. And so I think they were looking at a deal more similar to the Michael Thomas deal, where it was like up to 15, but maybe not all the way 15. It would just depend on how well he played. And that was kind of where his market was for a very, very long time. Baltimore stepped in and offered a lot of money. That was a really, really good contract that Baltimore gave him. And I think at some point, once he had, not guarantees,

but once he had indications from Lamar that, all right, Lamar's going to be there, he couldn't turn down that money. And I think from the Jets' standpoint, they could have matched, but they were like, we are maxed out, probably should take that offer. So that is what happened. Baltimore stepped in with a really, really good offer, and he had to take it. Yeah, Rapsha, you mentioned a little bit before about the Herbert to Burrow to Mahomes. Are you expecting that to happen soon, or is that something that might happen next year?

Because I thought the Chiefs were planning on redoing Mahomes' deal kind of soon. Yeah, I don't think it's going to be next year. I mean, look, if negotiations break down, you know, at some point a quarterback should get paid what he should get paid. And if it's not this year, he should hold out for what it's going to be. I don't get the sense that anything is imminent, but what you're probably looking at is, you know, if maybe June for one of these deals before minicamp possibly, um, or, you know, probably more likely right around the time of training camp. And I think like if you're Joe Burrow and let's say, let's just compare, okay. Joe Burrow is represented by Brian Arold, uh,

who's a William Morris agent. He did Joey Bosa's deal. Joey Bosa's deal was literally right up to the day that the Chargers reported to training camp. Like I think he signed as players were like checking in as we were like, is Bosa going to show up? Is he going to show up? Okay. Boom. He has a deal. Took that one really to the last minute. Maybe Joe Burrow's deal has a similar time frame just based on same team that is challenging to negotiate with and the same agent. What does that look like, you think? Do you have any clue what the structure may look like when they do get Joe Burrow done? For Burrow, the structure is going to be a lot of it because Lamar is 52, right?

Yeah, Lamar is 52 a year, based on new money. So you'd imagine that Burrow is going to be either around there or a little bit more. But the Bengals haven't really done guarantees that go into year two. So do they change the precedent for the quarterback?

If you're going to change the precedent, like the Steelers did it with T.J. Watt, right? If you're going to change the precedent, do it with literally the best player your franchise has had in, like, forever, right? It would actually make sense. Or do you just offer him so much first-year money that he has the security he wants and it's fine? Either way, I would imagine it's somewhere in the 50s, mid-50s. But the structure and how much is guaranteed in the second year is going to be interesting. Ian, are you following this John Morant situation going on in the NBA?

I'm just curious how something like this would play out in the NFL if this was the case with a player. What do you think is going on? I am extremely interested in it. I hate to say this because the playoffs have been really awesome and I think are probably going to get better. And that seems to be the biggest story. Yeah, it is. Right?

It definitely is now. Now it's back here and here we go again, I guess. And he's suspended. How long is the suspension going to last? Do we know? Suspended from what? I understand why teams sort of felt the need to be like, we're suspending him, but sort of like he's probably on vacation.

So suspended from his downtime, like, okay. The NFL has not had a lot of these recently, but I would imagine it's going to be something what leagues do not like, just generally, what commissioners do not like, is when the commissioner personally says something to a player. Like, hey, I imagine it was from Adam Silver to John Morant, like, this needs to stop. And then for him to ignore it is like spitting in the face of the commissioner. So I would imagine whatever comes down, it's going to be stiff. It's going to be really significant. And I just don't understand why.

Like at what point is having a gun for a social media video worth it where you're going to get suspended and hurt your team and cost you money and all? Like for what? So, like, yeah, for the NFL, I would imagine it would be probably really harsh. Well, what happened to that guy who was on the Raiders? Because didn't that just happen where he was either on IG Live or something and somebody DM'd him about, I honestly don't know, but I just remember there was a guy for the Raiders that got suspended. I don't know if it was indefinitely.

I think they cut him, actually. Yeah, did he get cut? Was it Dan Arnett or whatever? Yeah, Arnett. There it is. They cut him, and he has not played since. Wait, no. He played for... He was on the Chiefs practice squad, then he got arrested, and then

he was released. So, like, that is a pretty good example of a high-profile player who, you know, probably was not good enough to get drafted. But Ja didn't get arrested, and what he's doing technically wasn't illegal, right? If his gun was registered to him, you can carry in Tennessee, right? It's like NBA team rules.

This is more NBA team rules, right, where, of course, they can say you can't bring a gun into the facility, but can they say you're not allowed to own guns? Can they tell players that? I mean, I don't know they could say you're not allowed to own guns, but what I think they can do is your public persona is real. For lack of a better way of saying it, there are kids watching. And I think that's the problem when you're a really high-profile athlete is the rules are not the same.

And this is just me, but the laws there's like you have to abide by what you and the league sort of decide is acceptable and a lot of times the commissioner gets to decide that so like he's not going to be very happy seeing that and i would expect it to be pretty harsh could that be something that is in a contract where can you put that in writing like hey you're not going to show any weapons on any social media platform or pictures. Can that be something they do? Is that possible? I mean, John would have to sign off on that.

He would have to sign off on it. And then at this point, it's like, you know, I guess he would, but he probably wouldn't be very happy about it considering he keeps sort of flaunting it. Like, you know, I don't know how specific the language can get, but there are morals, clauses and contracts. The same way you're not allowed to

go skydiving or whatever. There are different things you can put in a contract to make sure that the behavior holds up to what the league demands, I guess for lack of a better way of saying it. Do you know Michael Silver at all?

Adam? Michael Silver. You know Michael Silver at all? Adam. Michael Silver. Michael's not Michael. Yeah, I knew what I said. What's Michael Silver do? He's somebody. He's a columnist in San Francisco. There we go.

That's right. He's San Francisco. Adam Silver. Of course. I do not know Adam Silver. I know a bunch of people close to him, and I know some people in baseball in similar places, but him I do not know despite he and I being from somewhat similar places.

It seems like he has the respect of the players in the league, doesn't he? He seems to have a good relationship with the MVPA or whatever. Oh, yeah. I think so. I mean, it seems so. And just based on their interactions with him, it seems like they're all on the same page they're just i just there isn't a lot of precedent the really like i was thinking

about this today like just kind of looking back like what could they do um like when have we seen players just say like i don't care what the commissioner says i'm just gonna do whatever i want it's not a lot of that when he already he already did his, like, apology thing on ESPN, too. So, like, now, no matter what he does, people won't believe him. Right, but then he had his whole family. I don't know how close you guys were following, but, again, like, this is really interesting to me. His whole family was there, and they were all wearing shirts

that said something like, it was, like, vindicated or, like, freed. Do you remember this? I don't remember this. His whole family was courtside in, like, these ridiculous T-shirts about how he was wrong and he was finally back. I was like, that's a good indication that at least the people around him don't take this seriously

at all. That is news to me. Do you guys see those shirts or anything? When he came back from his original suspension is what you're saying. They were all courtside wearing these t-shirts that basically painted him as the victim. Wow. Ian, I'll tell you what. We're going to get a lot of comments on this one, but I don't really care. wearing these t-shirts that basically painted him as like the victim. Huh? Wow.

I mean, you know, tell you what, we're going to get a lot of comments on this one, but I don't really care. Hey, that's all right. You be you and don't worry about that.

You keep being you. What last thing for me here before we let you roll, what, what's your horse up to? Do you know where, what state he's in or he or she, do we know what's going on? It's alive,

correct? Yeah. No, very interesting situation with Jason's road. So, uh, no, he's good. He's good. Um, very interesting situation with Jason Rhodes. No, he's good. He's good. But, you know, didn't fire at the derby like we all thought.

And the jockey kind of sensed that something was not right. So he pulled back. It turns out he's dealing with some knee bruising. So they shut him down for 60 days. Shut. He will be back. Jerks. He will be back.

How do you shut him down? You mean like you make him sit down and take a knee or just not run? Just not run. Yeah, they're going to let him fully heal. You're going to let him live. That's good. For now. Oh, yeah.

He'll race again. Good. But it was actually like, you know, Jockey took care of him, though. You know? Good guy. Didn't feel right. It was like this is not – something's not right. And so pulled back and didn't push him even though it was the Derby.

And so 60 days on the shelf and, you know, hopefully better things ahead. How do you guys find the jockey to ride your horse? Because I know those jockeys ride horses all day long. They ride a bunch of those races. How do you get to pick your jockey there? The trainer picks. So basically like he's sort of, you know, there's characteristics of what a jockey does best, characteristics of a horse, and you kind of mix and match.

And the same trainer, Brad Cox, and the same jockey, Florent Giroux, won a couple races at Derby Saturday, so we were very optimistic. But alas, health-wise, it just did not happen. But, hey, we'll be at the Preakness as well. We have no horse running, as far as I know, but we will be there regardless. All right. Well, Ian, thank you so much, man. We appreciate your time.

Good luck to Jace's Road and recovery back from the knee bruising. I'm glad that the horse is still alive and doing well. Like you said, fingers crossed. We'll be out there running again. But, Ian, thanks, man. Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rappaport. Yay! He was good. Ian, thanks, man. Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rappaport. He was good.

What do you think? What's your one big takeaway from that? One big takeaway from that? One big. I tell you what I'm intrigued by is how intrigued he is by the John Morant situation. Really? Ian seems really into it. I had no idea the whole family wearing vindicated shirts. Is that real? I don't remember that either. Neither do I. But you got redemption. Not vindicated shirts. Is that real? I don't remember that either. Neither do I.

But you got a redemption, not vindicated, just redemption. That's a little bit different. You made me miss four or five. How many games did you miss? Yeah, I think you missed eight games. Yeah, that's a lot different than vindicated, right? Oh, yeah. Okay, good. I'm glad we cleared that up here.

Thank you for pulling this picture up. Because in the NFL, whenever a guy gets arrested for something gun-related, it's always like they pulled him over and they have a gun in their car. You don't ever see guys in the NFL on their IGs swinging. It's always like, oh, this guy got pulled over. He had a loaded gun in his car or just a gun, whatever the case may be. It's never like this. I can't remember another athlete who's really had a situation like this.

Yeah, it made me think. The NFL does a good job of educating you about guns. I mean, they definitely scare you to death to try to say, don't ever even have a gun in your vehicle if you're in the facility's parking lot. Yeah. But I do remember somewhere, I think I was in, when I was in Cincinnati early on in the offseason, you do a lot of those, the head coach will present things,

like this is just like kind of off the field things how to handle the media how to do this how to deal with stress whatever and he popped up a picture of a couple guys on the team with some sweet guns they were out shooting somewhere they were i don't know where they were shooting it was all legal everything was cool but they had some sweet guys they were posing with them and they had posted these pictures and he was like guys do we really think this is the best idea do we really think this is the message we want to send or whatever? And the guy, everyone kind of laughed, like, yeah, of course,

we can't be posting pictures like this, holding these sweet giant guns and everything, even though they were just honestly target shooting, going out there shooting cans or wherever they were, targets. Yeah, and this doesn't, like, for the John Moran, the comparison with the Damon Arnett situation in Vegas, that is one thing, but it's not even close to the player John Moran is. Like, there isn't a comparison. But he said Damon Arnett was arrested Vegas. That is one thing, but it's not even close to the player Ja Morant is. There isn't a comparison.

But he said Damon Arnett was arrested. What happened with him? He was threatening to kill some guy who was talking shit to him on IG. Yeah, that's different. Yeah, exactly. And he had, Ja obviously, I don't know, but he had an automatic, it looked like he had one of those grenade launchers. Pretty serious. Peace put together.

Exactly. But yeah, I do remember because his was, yeah, he was like some guy was talking shit about his player or something like that. And I don't remember if it was IG Live or if he sent a message directly to him, but he was threatening to kill him. Yeah. See, Ja hasn't been arrested, right? He had no trouble with the law.

No, no, because you're allowed to. When was the first gun flashed? In what video? Was that the one at the club? No, the club was a, I don't think. Did he that the one at the club? No, the club was a... Did he have a gun at the club? It was in the car, too. Yeah, I don't think the club...

Because, yeah, that would be illegal if you pulled a gun at the club. They'd probably say you can't at least pull it, right? You should probably clarify that. I think it was after the club is when the gun situation came up. So everything he is getting in trouble for, everything he's been suspended for and people are up in arms, he's flashed a gun in two Instagram Live videos. I believe so.

Just flashed. It didn't point at anybody. It didn't threaten people. I'm not trying to defend him. I'm just trying to figure out how they're going to go about doing whatever they're going to do with him. I think if it was a first-time offense, then they'd probably just do like, but we were just talking about this like two months ago. And then he had the big apology come.

I understand my actions have repercussions and a lot of people look up to me and all this kind of stuff now you know you can't believe that yeah exactly like and the the timing of it like i even think if this happened next year during the season like it would be a big deal still and people would talk about it because he is one of the best players in the nba but for this to happen like right after the season ended when we just got done and he kind of like went through all the trying to like repair his public image it's kind of like oh it's bullshit and this guy just isn't gonna learn he's just such a good player that's the thing where people like you're gonna get like yeah like pat

says all the time like be who you can afford to be he's pushing the line now like even though he's unbelievable like transcendent type player that makes people come to the arena to watch and tune in but he's got to figure this out yeah and earlier i think you said you saw he's lost 40 million dollars is that right did they estimate that well i assume with the contract he has he's definitely lost millions in the you know those eight games he missed because he makes 100 i mean i think he signed 150 oh, he definitely lost a mil or a couple. Yeah, and then he was Powerade's first cover athlete in the last, like, 15 years or something. And they actually, I think they ran the ads,

or the ads started, like, the day after this happened, too. The day, or the first offense, not this one. They just started rolling them out, and now Nike with everything going on, because some people are comparing his shoes to the Kyrie Irving situation. Some people don't want his shoes on the shelves anymore. That's crazy. Kyrie's are gone.

Those are very popular shoes. The Jaws, I don't have them, but they look sweet. They looked like they were very good basketball shoes. Now Nike has to make a decision here, don't they? Oh, yeah. I assume a lot of people are going be pushing that uh narrative to pressure can you separate the person from the shoe oh yeah yeah a lot of times i don't even know whose shoes they are my girl who's these and they're different players although those are kds like they're

you know i'm not a shoe guy i mean personally artists from the art situation yeah for sure yeah i don't know i'm i guess i'm curious about this whole just based on like guys you played with who were younger do you think is that the only way some of these guys, it's like when you start fucking with their money, then they realize like, oh, okay, this actually is serious. I think so. I need to start listening. Is that the only way to kind of straighten them out?

But when you get paid as much as Ja does, you got to really start messing with his money for him to notice it and be like, okay, because he, how old is Ja? 24, I think. So young, making so many... He 100% can count on making over a billion dollars with his contracts and endorsements, everything over the course of his career if he's smart.

I forget if he is... Yeah, there it is. Oh, he just lost. Yeah, the All-NBA. That's not even counting any of his sponsorships. Lost out on $39 million over not making the All-NBA team. Max deals depend on it. Super Max, you have to be an All-NBA player to get... Who votes on the All-NBA team?

It is a bunch of sports writers. That's crazy they put that in their contract. That's how their CDA did it. Well, I mean, Jason Tatum, he made first-team All-NBA, so his next Supermax deal is five years, $316 million. Because he made that All-NBA team. Jalen Brown's the same way. But you also have to be with the same team.

So, like, Jason Tatum, that deal is so big because he has the All-NBA team. Jalen Brown's the same way. But you also have to be with the same team. So like Jason Tatum, that deal is so big because he has the All-NBA escalator, and then I believe it's like a same team escalator if you stay. And Jalen Brown had the same thing. He was second team All-NBA. Now he's eligible for like a five-year, 290-or-something million-dollar max contract. Does the NBA have any rules? I believe the NFL put them in, right, Where if you have any indiscretions or suspensions, you are ineligible for

postseason awards? You can't go to the Pro Bowl or be Rookie of the Year if you got suspended three games? That starts next year. Oh, okay. Yeah, and it's a 65 game. So Ja just didn't make the team? He wasn't first, second, or third? No. Was he hurt most of the year? Part of the year? He was hurt for some

of the year, but I for some of the year but i think honestly the suspension had more to do with yeah anything especially if you're talking about the people who are voting i'd say first second or third team joel i would imagine would be first second or third team well it's not the same thing but it's like look at when you know uh aaron won that second mvp and we had and like hub arkish came out and basically said like hey this guy's an asshole. That's why I'm not voting for him. His numbers are incredible but he's an asshole and I'm not going to make him my MVP.

The league was pretty damn good this year. I think even when you look at the third team, All-NBA whatever the hell it is, because the second All-NBA team they're stacked too. I'm not sure. He definitely should have been at least third though. Man, I don't know what they do. Ian, that was a'm not sure. He definitely should have been at least third, though. Yeah. Man, I don't know what they do.

Ian, that was a good response, though. He's suspended now. Ian's like, from what? What are you talking about? The season just ended. It's not like there's OTAs and stuff in basketball. No. I don't get it.

I assume maybe they did that because of wording in the contract, right? Because they can probably. Oh, they can come after something. I'm sure they can come after money, right? It's not only suspended once, but they have conduct detrimental to the team. They have all kind of language now, but now do they make them go sign?

I want to know if after he was suspended the first eight games, did they try to add some kind of addendum to his contract to where, hey, you can't do this? We can't have you have any situation like this pop up where you're on camera anywhere with guns or weapons? Could they get him to do that, to sign that? It feels like necessary.

Players have too much power. Players have a lot of power. They do, especially the players at his status. But it does feel necessary now. It's like, all right, if Kyler Murray can't watch film, let's put in his contract. If John Moran can't stop pulling out guns on IG Live, let's just put it in his contract. But John Moran understands if he's not on that team, it's a completely different world for that whole franchise.

So he understands the power that he has because he is so good too. Well, especially because of what they were before him. The Grizzlies were dog shit for a long time. And now with John Moran, it feels like every year they have a chance. I mean, they were the two seed in the West. It's not like their team was the seven seed. It's got figured out, man. NBA needs that guy. They need him for the next 15 years. So entertaining.

His thing about Silver, too, you mentioned it, the players have so much power in the NBA, so it's a little bit different, but it will be interesting to see if I don't know if he's going to take it as a personal slap in the face. Oh, yeah. I can see that. But if he does, that obviously changes things quite a bit. What do you think that conversation's like with adam

silver now because yeah i would imagine a commissioner could be like man like i thought we had a great like communication i bet they did sit down and talk after the first thing we got suspended okay cool hopefully they ended on good terms this is great i hope to not see you again only on good terms there jaw and then this happens if it was like your parent or your teacher they'd be like okay i'm kind of like i'm kind of hurt that you did this well that's the thing too is like he he recognizes his value it's like you look at other like lebron and like curry like those guys are towards the tail end like they need he's going to be one of the main faces of the nba like as it

goes into this kind of next generation like they do need him around well and you got to kind of assume too like he they could set an example like this might this we're entering the territory where it's a guard he screwed up the first time he got the eight games for sure but if you do the whole apology thing if you talk to the commissioner and have that conversation and then still do it again like i don't i could see them doing 50 games i really could just because okay if we do this to john now everyone in the nba knows how important he is. He's already done it once. This is the second time over a three-month period, whatever the hell

it's been. Let's just set him as an example. All these guys who are coming into the NBA, all the younger players who are also looking to be the future after the Currys and LeBrons are all done. We need to show them what we're going to do if this happens consistently. That's why half the season,

50 games, something along those lines. Then you really are. Ty asked, how much money do you really have to take? How much do you affect until it really settles in? That would be a lot. That'd be tough to sit out for over half the season.

Watch your squad play. Watch your squad maybe stink too. Because then all of a sudden, maybe not now, they were looking at you all like, what the fuck? But there was that Steve and Adams meeting the night, the day of the club with all the money on the floor. That happened the same day.

So that's one thing. But then next year if they end up being one of the worst teams in the NBA through the first half of the season because he's suspended, you assume the dudes on the team, too, will probably be like, hey, man, you kind of fucked us. Yeah. What's the coach's name again? I can picture him.

I just can't think of his name right now. He's a younger guy. How does he handle this? I don't know. As a coach. Well, it's also like it's a tough situation because it's almost a double-edged sword. It's like you suspend him, but is he in a situation where it's like, hey, we can't have this guy just not here for 50 games? Like he's young. Like what is he going to be going and doing in Memphis

or wherever he goes to? That's another question. We need to have this guy in the fucking building so that we have eyes on him at all times and make sure that this doesn't end up tragically and he throws away his entire career because he just can't stay out of trouble. It's like being – when you were growing up, say someone got in a fight, they get like a three-day suspension.

Yes. But then if it wasn't as bad, sometimes you get an in-school suspension. Oh, yeah. They need a job like an in-school suspension where, hey, you're here practicing with us, doing everything, even traveling to a away game. I don't know if you want to take him. Yeah, maybe take him with you like you're playing,

but you just aren't street clothes every day like you're hurt. Maybe they try that. Yeah, I mean, also, and granted, who knows what the situation is around him, but if he's hanging out with people who are putting him on IG Live while he's holding a gun, is there any thought of that at all? Just because maybe it's just not...

Maybe he's not hanging around the right people if they're still doing it. Maybe it's just him, too. Of course, that's all. You've got to think how young these dudes are, how much money has been thrown at them. Yeah, of course, I'm not defending doing this. No, no, no. Also, at the same time, let's say two years from now, Jar, one of his teammates, is like a Carson Wentz picture

where he shot 85 birds and he hung them up and he's holding a shotgun. Is that allowed? I think that's different because it's like you're hunting. It is, but I'm saying some people might try to say, what's the difference? Obviously not in a car driving but i don't know i'm just trying to think of what other people might try to like yeah i mean and now that he has these two prior now he has a situation he's different but i think hunting in general people kind of just put that

in a separate you know separate basket you're right but it's not you're right like it's not a it's not like a prior though because it's not illegal what he's doing. Yeah, that's why I have all these questions because I'm like, what do you... Yes, of course the NBA can do whatever they want. The owner can, just like Roger Goodell, can say this. Whatever. I can suspend you. I don't care if there's nothing. No one else found anything wrong with it. I can suspend you because I say that.

The NBA can do that, but the NBA just has too... The players have so much power. I feel like they're going to fight whatever happens. Yeah, but are the players going to put into the next CBA, like, hey, if guys want to wield an Uzi in their car, that's fair game. You can't do anything about it. You're right.

I mean, it's a rough situation. The NBA needs Ja. Yeah, well, it's just tough because he's the only one. We need Ja. We definitely need Ja. No one plays the way he does, but there are so many good young guys now. Ja is 23, 24. Tatum is 25.

You don't see him doing that. Giannis, he's in his 20s. You don't see him doing that. Zion, he might be wielding a couple McFlurries, but you don't see him wielding guns in his car. Oreo McFlurry. Really good. M&M.

Hopefully both of them double up. They went 1-2, right? Yeah. Whoa. Really good. Eminem. Hopefully. Both of them. Double up. They went 1-2, right? Yeah. Yeah, they went 1-2. Who? Zion. Oh, they did.

That's their same year, huh? Yeah. They played on the same AAU team. Good luck beating that team growing up. Growing up. Yeah, I believe there was another NBA guy on that team. Really? Where did Ja grow up?

Good question. South Carolina. South Carolina. Yeah. And did Zion grow up in North Carolina? I thought he was South Carolina as well. He is also. South Carolina. And did Zion grow up in North Carolina? I thought he was South Carolina. He is also. Didn't he move and go to one of those high schools? I think when he was young.

When he got to high school, he might have went to one of those academies or whatever. I mean, probably. Little Bronny's going to USC, right? LeBron's son? He is. And also there are highlights. LeBron tweeted out highlights of his other kid playing. It sure seems like his other kid is the one. Bryce. I heard he's shot up.

I heard he's a giant. He's still going to do good. He's huge. How old is he now? He's not even a freshman? Yeah, freshman or sophomore. I think he is a freshman now. Next year he'll be a sophomore because he was on the Sierra Canyon varsity team with Bronny this year. I heard Bryce

grew like 10 inches. I heard he just all of a sudden became a monster. Buttery jump shot. Oh, no. Dunks with ease. Yeah, arms in all passing lanes. He's a stud, and he's a Kareem Goggles guy. Yeah. Rexpex.

Yeah. Good. We don't need to deal with contacts. Where are the Rexpex? Chris Sabo, old Reds player back in the day, used to play in Rexpex. You know Chris Sabo? Oh, yeah. So this is Bryce?

Yeah, this is Bryce. See, you thought I was joking, but LeBron's high school coach is the coach of the Canes men's basketball. I remember him as a little kid, I feel like, the last time I saw him. Yeah. That's Bryce? And now he's an absolute dog on the court. Man. Yeah, I mean, this dunk is just so casual.

I don't know how old LeBron's daughter is. I bet she can play as well, though. Yeah, absolutely. AJ, you never dunked, huh? I never dunked in a game. Could you dunk? I can two-foot dunk, yeah. I couldn't.

I'm not a one-foot jumper. I'm a two-footer. I'm a two-footer. Like, take one step, drop step, boom. Oh, so you could easily dunk. I'm a two-footer. I mean, it's not easy. I had to put some power through the ground to get up there, but I could jump and hang on the rim now.

I doubt I could get over there. Yeah, but if you landed, would your knees then explode, causing you to walk around on stubs? It's like Oscar stories. Maybe. Like, honestly, this crash pad, I need you. When I jump, I need all you to push that crash pad underneath me so then I can fall back.

Either I get swatted by the rim and I'm falling back on my head, or I just don't want to land on my knees and shatter everything. Shatter both of them. Yeah, we'll work on that in the break. A little bit of a delay there. A little bit early for me, boys, but, you know, hour two, we're trying to figure things out. Ian was good.

We appreciate him coming on here. Shams Sharania will be on at 205 for a comment. That's how you say his last name, isn't it? That is exactly how you say his last name. And speaking of rap sheet, we should make sure we clarify that. It was redemption on those t-shirts. Redemption on the shirts, right? Not vindication.

A little bit different. Very different. Very, very different, I would say. So I'm glad we cleared that up right after Ian came on. I'm sure he appreciates that as well. I want to pivot to something we actually asked Ian about. Okay. Tone, I know you love this story.

Anthony Richardson. Yeah. So this story, the team had a function. The. Okay. Tone, I know you love this story. Anthony Richardson. Yeah. So this story, the team had a function. The Indianapolis Colts, obviously he was the first round pick for the Indianapolis Colts quarterback. They wanted him to come in and he's going to be the guy to run this franchise. Hell yeah. And what this tweet says basically, Tone, you want to read it or you just want to summarize this for people? Well.

He's being a good guy. First off, I want to make sure from the sources if it is correct or not. From Dove? Dove? Yeah. Dove? Dove? Basically, yeah. You said he stayed around. He cleaned up the mess because he didn't

want to have everyone else deal with it. I just want to know, is that a normal thing in the locker room? Didn't this happen at the draft? I think this happened at the draft. With Malik Willis you're talking, aren't you? No, this I believe. It says left by the draftees on this.

Yeah, I think it was. And Troy Vincent talked to him. Yeah, but it says NFL rookie event. So I wonder if it's just all the guys who were drafted. Because if it was Troy Vincent, don't you guys have that rookie symposium thing? Is that right after the draft? No, the symposium is later actually actually, in the summer, I believe. Oh, so maybe this was a draft event.

But, I mean, that middle paragraph is unbelievable. Richardson explained that it was unfair to expect the staff to clean up the mess left by the draft. I mean, this is a real thing, but it usually happens from vets. We're like a vet. Okay, man, after practice, everyone comes in, you're talking, you have like 20 minutes or so. As you're getting your stuff off, people are going to lift, people are going to lunch, you're going to meetings, and you're like, oh, okay, man, you cut your tape off,

your shoes and your ankles and your cleats, and every once in a while someone will just put it on the ground or leave it on the ground when there's a trash can two feet away. Yeah. And it's the most infuriating thing ever. I'm like, what are you doing? Like this, all these people here, like we're all on the team together. They're not like, they don't specifically work to pick up your dumb trash

because you couldn't throw it two feet into the trash can. It's usually vets that will kind of find a guy and maybe scare a guy early and then they get that and then they can pass it on as they grow. Like, hey, we're not going to, this place isn't going to be garbage because of us. Well, and that's like own team. It's common sense. Because this isn't just like a Colts rookie event, right? Yeah, this is for everybody.

You're right. Yeah, it's great. And especially the fact that I would assume he didn't do it knowing that people were going to talk about it. He didn't do it to try to get on camera or whatever to set it. He did it because he's a good dude. And he doesn't want to ruin the day of these other people because you have these stupid entitled athletes leaving their trash everywhere.

AJ, some other tweets are calling this a rookie orientation. Is that like a specific thing? The Colts could have had a rookie orientation kind of thing where they – I know we had rookie orientation stuff where they would almost like – a few vets would come in. It was usually on the weekend of rookie minicamp, I think, and vets would come in and maybe do a little presentation to the players or go over things, how to handle giving money to your family,

all that stuff. So it could have been. So that makes more sense then. But Troy Vincent was there? Troy Vincent's like DeMora Smith's right-hand man, right? Or is he? No, my bad. He's the NFL. He was with the PA. Now he's been with the NFL for a while. My bad on that.

Okay. Well, where did this come from? How did this get out? Yeah, how did this get out? That's what I mean. Because is the Dove just hear this? Or is this from like a... Honestly, well, it'd be smart for Troy Vincent to put it out, to tell Dove. Oh, yeah.

It's great. Good pub. If it truly happened, obviously it did, then yeah. For Troy Vincent, he needs the NFL to do well. It's just another feel-good story for the NFL and a young superstar. Dove is seemingly everywhere, so he could have been in the garbage can that A. Richardson threw all this stuff in.

So we're being told that this was a pre-draft event, not necessarily something fully affiliated with the Colts. Oh, like a function. We're really digging down on what the event was. So it wasn't just Colts players, we're saying. Right, exactly. The NFL, we're really digging down on what the event was there. So it wasn't just Colts players, we're saying.

Right, exactly. It was a bunch of players. So it's like, hey, he's the leader of all these guys. These guys are all Alphas. Bryce Young, all these people are here. And this is the guy saying, hey, no, this isn't right. Good guy. Feels like there were 30 assholes drafted in one good guy. Sorry, Con, for cutting you off. Did the Colts win the draft now because of this?

Yeah. Maybe I've just been oblivious to it, but him being 20 years old is absurd. Oh, my God. Crazy. That's nuts to me. I mean. That is absurd. And to have that kind of high character and integrity at 20?

Are you kidding me? How excited are people in Indianapolis right now? They're very excited. Jumping over the moon. Or Jim Irsay. Jim Irsay? Better find that guy. When he saw this, you know what Jim Irsay did? What?

He fucking went out and bought a guitar from Led Zeppelin. He was like, you know what? What am I even doing? I got a good guy at quarterback. You think I need this $2 million? Give me that fucking guitar. I want it now. Is it illegal to flick your cigarette butts out the window? I would assume it is illegal.

No. That's littering big time. I don't know. That's actually a great question. That's absolutely littering. I don't think cigarette butts. Can we look it up back there, Evie, when you get a chance? I don't think cigarette butts are littering. But what makes you say that?

I'm just asking the question. Even doing that this weekend? No, I was thinking what if all of a sudden, I was just thinking of someone littering after this situation. I'm thinking is- AJ used to do that to all the rookies when they came. He'd throw his butts down and say, I picked that up, rook. Don't you get done with them?

You put them out on their shoulder, their neck. Yeah, yeah, that's what you guys did. That's what those old school guys did before I got there, they said. Oh, is that right? That guy, whoever we were talking about last week, who was the middle linebacker with that cool fucking... Talking to Andy Katzmar, you'll call him that guy. Well, sorry.

Litter is any rubbish, no matter how small, thrown in an open or public place. He's drafted by the Patriots too, Con Man. Yeah, I love that guy. One of my favorite Patriots ever. I know. It includes dropped cigarette butts on the ground. Wow. So he has to... Don't. You couldn't have been serious saying you didn't think it was litter because it was cigarette butt. No, I was... Well, those blow away in the wind.

That's why I like your brain. And who are the Riverkeepers to tell me otherwise? Riverkeepers. Is that what the River Keepers to tell me otherwise? River Keepers. Is that what their website was? Do they have authority? Yeah, what are the River Keepers? Cigarette butt litter, the facts by the River Keepers. Yeah, riverkeepers.org.

It's an organization. I get that, but also so is PETA. PETA? Sure. Yeah, sure. They haven't found my respect that I'll call them. Oh, River Keepers probably are trying to keep the rivers clean. Which I respect. I'd hope so. Yeah, you. They haven't found my respect that I'll call them. Oh, river keepers probably are trying to keep the rivers clean. Which I respect.

I'd hope so. Yeah, you do respect. The only thing that should be in rivers is water and dead bodies. Welcome to Pittsburgh. What about fish? A few rocks in the bottom. Well, yeah, those are obviously fish are going to be in rivers. Well, you never know.

It sounds like you want to get rid of them. No, I would never want to get rid of the fish. I love fish. I was at the aquarium yesterday, okay? Oh, nice. Were you really? Yeah. You take your daughter? Yeah. Do love fish. I was at the aquarium yesterday. Were you really? Yeah. You take your daughter?

Yeah. Do they have sharks there? They do have sharks. The Indianapolis Aquarium. Is it a good one? I have never been. The aquarium at the Indianapolis Aquarium is pretty good. Oh, okay.

So you saw the orangutan guy that was miserable. Yeah, they were still miserable. Still very, very miserable. Were the rhinos out yet? Yeah, they look sweet. Okay. Well, last time I saw the rhinos, they looked like two boulders. They had no water. It was despicable. I thought they were dead. They did. look sweet okay well last time i saw the rhinos they looked like two boulders they had they had

no water it was despicable i thought they were dead they did they i think they're still in their same spot because two of them did look like that but there was one fucking big one roaming around the planes were actually really cool planes is a great section over there did you race the cheetah no wait what you can race the cheetah smoke stewart says you want can race a cheetah? Smoke Stewart says, you want to race a cheetah? Mm-hmm. They got like a little strip of like, you know, it's maybe like a 50-yard dash. Okay, okay. And you run, and then boom, it lets you know how fast the cheetah's going next to you. Yeah.

Is the cheetah actually running next to you? No. No. That'd be sweet. Yeah, I know. The cheetahs are just coming in. It could, though, if it wanted to. It could if it wanted to. There's space there for it in a big glass window for it to run.

Didn't Ocho fucking race a cheetah? A horse, I thought. Oh, this is it? There it is. Boom. A heck of a setup. Oh, with the elephant in the background? Jeez, 21 seconds. I took a picture with a cheetah probably 10 years ago at the zoo. Like right here with the guy. Dogs are saving cheetahs. Are they?

Yeah. That was at least what the sign said. Yeah, cheetahs have, some zoos have cheetahs with dogs hanging out. Oh yeah, they're raising, there's little snow leopards they were raising at the Columbus Zoo with puppies. These big old, you know, there's like, there's dogs that protect the pack. This doesn't seem like a safe area for that. I mean, I see it's a baby.

That elephant could very easily, you know, get over that three-foot security fence that all these people are shaking on. And stomp this little, what do you think this kid ran? Probably a 4.340? This kid, I mean, that's 21 seconds. He has good arm drive. Good arm drive? Is he at 21 seconds with good arm drive? This kid is moving like molasses.

No, that was the best today. Oh, okay. So did you do this thing? Did you race? No, no, no, I did not. I could have. When you go back, will you? I will next time.

And just take video of it, please, for us? Next time I will. I wasn't in the correct tire. Oh, okay. Was Anthony Richardson there? No, but if he was, he would be shoveling poop. He's cleaning up all the elephant dung. I'm really excited for Anthony Richardson.

Okay, but does this Dove climbing report, though? Is this trashing the rest of the players there that were at this event? They didn't name the other players. All of the draftees. But is that what you're doing? These guys are just throwing their trash and expecting everyone to pick it up? Basically, anyone else who got drafted this year. Honestly, it's such a stupid move. What a turd if you're going to make people clean up your trash,

especially an event like that. Well, if it's like, yeah, I mean, if we're talking like they ate a meal and these guys were like just like throwing it on the ground or like intentionally missing the garbage. Well, I heard a bunch of them were putting ketchup packets on the ground and fucking stomping on them. So the whole. That's a bad move.

Don't do that. That's classic cafeteria. Jeez. Yeah, that's. I mean, good. We're in good hands with Anthony Richardson. Is he going to start day one? Never going back? Even though Gardner Mitchell's here. He's the guy. They took him at four overall. How long do

you want him to sit behind someone? Throw him into the fire. It's not like they have expectations to go win the Super Bowl this year either. Do you know what they've done, which I appreciate? Other teams go the opposite way. And I've heard Michael and Barty talk about this to where now we've let them pump people up and put these unrealistic expectations on players. I remember I was hearing Lambeau on his podcast say something like,

if a guy played last year, we're going to – or like a guy like Justin Fields, they're going to say, oh, he is light years ahead of where he was last year. They always want to say this. And then Lambeau's like, come on, you're going to ruin it for this kid, and you're telling your fan base all of this stuff and these expectations. They need to be realistic. And when you do that, you screw these players over sometimes. Well, on TV right now with Justin Fields, they're saying,

oh, he's going to be an MVP candidate this upcoming year, which he could be. I mean, he's an incredible athlete. But, yeah, that would be a hell of a jump. It would be. Very educated which he could be. He's an incredible athlete, but yeah. That would be a hell of a jump. It would be. Very educated. It would be. Yeah, it would be, but I don't think the team's doing him any favors when the team comes out and does that. That's why I think it's cool that Chris Ballard already said, we're going to

have some, we're going to stumble a little bit. He said they drafted him because of where his ceiling is. Yeah, so good. Let people know. We're going to see some flashes of brilliance. You're going to love what you see at times and there might be a few plays that you do not love and you want him to have those back, but guess what? That's just all part of the process.

It's the same deal. When you have a guy like him, you don't need him to be an incredibly efficient passer out of the gate. He could win them a couple games by rushing for 150 yards. You don't get that with Gardner Minshew. And it's the best setup out of all the rookie quarterbacks.

Like with people around him, you mean? Yes, with the offensive line. Jonathan Taylor, obviously. If they play how they play. Yeah, Jonathan Taylor, Michael Pittman Jr. They drafted Josh Downs, and all signs seem to be pointing that he's unbelievable. They ain't got that. Al Harris was good.

Yeah, second-round pick last year. Like, they do have weapons. And then defensively, we'll see what happens. But they really just lost Gilmore, right? Hopefully Shaq Leonard's healthy. Hopefully he's not good again. Yep. He'll be roaming.

The Forrest Buckners. All pro. Franklin. Like, they do have. Jeez, they do have athletes everywhere. They have studs at every level you think of. Yeah, every level. And I'm not saying it's the same situation whatsoever.

But remember when the 49ers, you know, Jimmy G got hurt. And then they drafted Nick Bosa third overall and then they went to the Super Bowl and I'm not saying that at all that that is something that can happen but it's a similar like this team is pretty damn good where they are now so Steichen does come in and the offense

that they ran with Jalen Hurts is hopefully perfect for Richardson and they just pick up where they left off kind of before all this team had all the worries and they have this future quarterback in the NFL, then there is a chance that they could make a playoff run. I mean, in that division, anything's possible. Oh, yeah, sure.

What about your Steelers, though? I heard him say you got a little upset when they mentioned, when Ian mentioned T.J. Watt being the greatest Steeler of all time. I rethought about it, and then I think he was saying that about Joe Burrow, but using T.J. Watt. I don't know. There's a lot of great stealers. T.J. Watt's one of the greatest of all time.

Yes. So that's all you need. One of is what you need. Yes. With Pittsburgh, you can't crown one person, can you? No, because there's been multiple defensive player of the years on that side. Who's your favorite? Super Bowl favorite.

Favorite stealer of all time? Oh, come on, Tony. You know. Bubby? No. Seven. Seven, baby. No one's done more for the organization.

Football. I mean, you know, without a quarterback, you don't fucking win championships. I know. I've watched Ben play in college, bro. I've seen him up close and personal and do it for a long time. I think he'd come back and give a team a good year but no but like honestly i saw like a power rankings of the afc yesterday and they had them like they had the sealers like ninth and i went through all the

teams and i was like you know what it's probably accurate like because you want to you want to see what happens with kenny in year two and they have a really good roster but like there's just so many fucking good teams in the, in the AFC. Let's pop this up, Evie, if we can, the over, over,

uh, under wind totals here. It really is. Like I'm okay. I think that's probably right because I feel like almost, I guess last year we didn't really know what we had going in with the Steelers right now. I don't know what we have.

They went nine and eight last year. They're going to be, they should be better though. Obviously I do. I, I think they would, I think they're better than the Jags, but the Jags have 9-1 because their division is easier. Yeah, and just look at the teams from 9-1 up.

Were there 9 or 10 AFC teams? The Browns made a great move this weekend. The Browns, I looked at their roster this morning. The Browns have a good roster again. Now, are they going to be the Browns again? Probably because something always happens with that organization. So they won't put on paper. They're good.

Yeah, the whole AFC is just wild. Yeah, it's stacked. And that's why for, you know, and I'm kind of in the same boat as Tony just because, like, young quarterback, who knows what the team is going to be with the rookies that we drafted. Like, there's so much unknown. And then, obviously, every single year, we know one of these teams who's in the upper half of this

is going to underperform. We just know that's going to happen. Remember last year? Someone from that first row right there is going to underperform. Yes, exactly. And by a lot, too. Yeah, and multiple on the other side of the board, too, at 9.5 and 8.5.

That's why this is probably, I think, the most interesting NFL season for the AFC they've had in a long, long time. But then there's another chance that we talk about all these teams, and then it's Bengals-Chiefs again. Very real possibility. Very real possibility. I cannot wait for this NFL season. I cannot get here fast.

The quarterback switch-up, the change-up at quarterback. Obviously, Aaron Rodgers is gone. He cannot get here fast. The quarterback switch up. Like the change up at quarterback. Obviously Aaron Rodgers is gone. He's in New York. Jordan Love's in Green Bay. Well, now Anthony Richardson will most likely start in Indianapolis. Houston. Derek Carr is in New Orleans.

Oh, Derek Carr is in New Orleans. Baker, he's going to start in Tampa, isn't he? Jimmy G. Jimmy G in Vegas. Man, there's a lot of things changing for us. We don't know what. The Rams are Super Bowl champions just two years ago. Two years ago.

Geez, you're right. They're six and a half. And then on the opposite side, too. Who's starting for the Niners? They're 11 and a half games. We don't even know if Purdy's going to be ready. And then we got Matt Maioco saying that Sam Darnold is the greatest ball thrower that the Niners have ever had.

Well said. Well pronounced. Thank you. Thank you. Is that how you say it? Yeah. Maioco. Maioco. And you. Thank you. Is that how you say it? Yeah. Mayocle. Mayocle.

And also, like, okay, the Browns. Deshaun Watson, he played, what, five games last year? I believe. But this is basically his first real time. This is our first look at what they look like with Deshaun. He did start looking a little better, too, at the end. Yeah, and they did kind of start to figure it out. And what happens with them?

He's going to have to play good. Yeah, if they come out of the gates and they're just unbelievable. No one's talking about it. Even though the Browns just got traded there. I don't know. I feel like the Browns are really under the radar right now. Aren't they? Big time.

Do they ever get brought up on any of these morning shows that we see? Are they ever talking about the Browns? No. I think partially that is because of Deshaun Watson. Everyone has kind of just written him off. They're done with him. They don't want to see them do well outside of Cleveland, outside of Browns fans.

But like you said, he needs to play well. Does he? He has $230 million guaranteed. He doesn't need to play well. He wants to, obviously, but that is kind of just a weird situation. Yeah, Tony and I were talking about it before the show today. The AFC East is one of the best divisions. The AFC North is unbelievable too. The AFC and the West.

It really is. There's three divisions this year where you can basically say, yeah, there are three, possibly four teams that can win each of those divisions. That doesn't always happen that way. A lot of times you can usually at least have a pretty good feeling going in. These guys, they're going to stink.

They're going to be like, yeah, I don't know. There will be surprises. Think about the NFC West. The Seahawks were very good in comparison to what everyone thought they were going to be, but the Niners were still cream of the crop and everyone knew that. Same with the AFC North. You knew the Bengals were going to be good. You knew the Chiefs were going to be

good. So there were teams that kind of... Bills, same thing. There were teams that undersold what everyone thought, or underperformed what everyone thought that they were going to be good. You knew the Chiefs were going to be good. So there were teams that kind of did. Bills, same thing. There were teams that undersold what everyone thought, or underperformed what everyone thought that they were going to do, and then there were some teams that just come out of nowhere. The Dolphins could win that division easily. Exactly. Dolphins could. Everyone's saying Jets, Bills,

but the Dolphins could easily win that division. And the Dolphins, shit, they lost to the Bills in the playoffs 34-31 with Skyler Thompson. True. They are very, very good one to his health. And what if Mack's career gets reinvigorated by Bill O'Brien being there and they win 11 or 12 games? That's not out of the realm of possibility.

It's not. But unfortunately for UConn, man, and Mack, all of a sudden, Bill O'Brien comes back, revamps Mack's career. Boom, huge year. Bill O'Brien gets a job somewhere else. We've got to figure it out again with Mack and bring another coordinator yeah exactly see you later he's staying forever yeah hopefully Bill just you know he's a masked guy hopefully he says I tried the whole head coaching thing JJ Watt punched me in the teeth I would just much rather be an OC for Mac Jones

and Bill Belichick and obviously the assumed successor Geron Mayo is there they just extended him but what then uh with the whole idea of of Mac and Bill O'Brien figuring it out and maybe they are unbelievable, when you go through the Patriots schedule, it is absurd how hard it is. We have it anywhere back there? They play the NFC East and they play the AFC West. And then they play a few other teams that are really good. And it really is one of those things where, yeah,

we could be seeing Mac Jones kind of bring his career back and they could still possibly only win seven games. That is how that's how ridiculously tough the schedule is in the AFC this year. And we're not the only ones like shit. The Dolphins have an absurd game to like it

stinks. Yeah, Eagles at home Dolphins at home Jets and I believe it's the Cowboys. Yeah, Cowboys on the road. Saints, Raiders kind of turns into a must-win, but then Bills, Dolphins, Commanders, Colts in Germany, bye, and then

look how you close the season. Giants, Chargers, Steelers, Chiefs, Broncos, Bills, Jets. Are you kidding me? That's a tough month in December. End of November, end of December. You don't know what the Saints and Raiders are going to be, but you don't want them to be games that you have to win.

No, definitely not. Must win. I mean, I guess you could make the argument like, hey, if you're going to play the Eagles, you'd want to play them early just because it's the first game, but then also it's the most healthy. Yeah, or late when they're beat up. Which one do you want? It's a shitty Yeah, or late when they're beat up. Yeah, which one do you want?

It's a shitty – yeah, when both teams are beat up. Yeah, exactly. It's just a – it's a terrible – it's a terrible schedule. That's why, you know, you need – and this is kind of – this is the silver lining, I would say. You need Mack to play well because if he doesn't, then we are. They need Mack to win games for them this year. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, we can't win with Mack. We have to win because of him. And there's a chance that that doesn't happen. And then you do figure out, like, okay, Mac Jones, great rookie year, but we have a top three pick this year, and we're going to have to take a quarterback. Because Billy O's going to get him, right? I think Billy O will, too.

I think he will. I still have a lot of faith. I mean, the over-under set at 7.5, I'm absolutely taking over 7.5 just because, I mean, we won seven games with cam newton and that was the worst football team in the history of the planet that's ever been assembled which you know says something about how good bill bolchek is as a head coach but i i have plenty of faith a lot of things have to go right though and you you know there's always like three or four plays in every game where it's like yeah that's probably where we lost the game. I lean to Bill though.

When it comes to those where it takes one or two plays, Bill has done enough and educated his teams enough to where they usually steal those games. Yeah, and I know that the defense is going to be good because you basically brought back everybody and then the first three picks of the draft this year were all defense. So you hope that those guys perform well. Christian

Gonzalez is one of the steals of the draft. Same with Keon White, but you know that that's going to be good. You know the special teams is going to be good. The only question mark is offense. And obviously when you're in the division with Josh Allen, Aaron Rodgers, Tua with Tyree Kill and Jalen Waddell, you have to score 24, 28 points. Or you're just not going to win. I'd say the division is a little scary when you look at the quarterbacks.

Is that guy with the nose bar still a Hall of Famer? The nose bar? Cole Strange? Yeah. Absolutely. Oh, yeah. I mean, Cole Strange's best game was against the Steelers and Cam Hayward. He killed it.

He's still doing well. Yeah, he played very well. You guys see any of the clips of Bryce Young on the internet where they're like, oh, Bryce literally disappears behind his lineman when he's taking the snap? He looks good. He looks good. What do you mean?

You think he looks really good? Yeah. Frank said he's out there. He's the best he's ever seen. Does it worry you when you see how he looks compared to his offensive line? No, because I know exactly the screenshot you're talking about. Yeah, it's coming from this video. Someone paused it and screenshotted it.

They're not doing me favors with his angle either. That's what I mean. He's like, what, eight? Is that eight yards behind his O-lineman? So, obviously, he looks tiny. With one, he walks into the frame, and then he's behind. He's like, what, eight? Is that eight yards behind his O-lineman? So obviously he looks tiny. With one, he walks into the frame and then he's behind. He looks so tiny without shoulder pads on. Yeah, that's the thing.

When you don't have shoulder pads, it's always a weird look. Get rid of the ball. I just have a hard time thinking that. They should hire short coaches. That would have helped. But I think even next to these coaches, he's probably right up there with them. I'm having a hard time thinking that he's just going to absolutely stink of everybody who we know, especially Lombardi.

He's kind of the guy that I've deferred to because he didn't like Bryce Young. And then he watched all the tape and he's like, Bryce Young is the bona fide number one overall pick. He seems just so solid. From anyone I've talked to that's been around him and played with him, they're like, can't shake the dude. Absolutely. Yeah, nothing shakes him.

Nothing derails him. He's always the same, like, laser-focused guy that never is off his script. He's just, hey, here we go. I love it. I love what he's doing. I mean, Carolina could be very surprising to some people. In that division, yeah. It's similar to the situation with Anthony Richardson in the AFC South.

Like, if Bryce Young's good, the Pan with Anthony Richardson in the AFC South. Like, if Bryce Young's good, the Panthers could easily win the NFC South. Yeah. I mean, unless I heard fucking Bakers. What about Baker Tampa? I heard Bakers tearing it up. Yeah. I did hear that, right?

Wasn't that B.A.? Bruce Arians said that. Here's the one thing, though. They do have one. Jason. Who all do they have? They have. They didn't lose anybody, did they? No.

They have Godwin. They have Mike Evans. They don't have Leonard Fournette, right? No, but they have the rookie. What's his name? Rashad White. Rashad White. Who they think is good.

They got the center back, right? Their season was really derailed because of the offensive line in the year. Yes. Literally day one. And then they all got hurt. That was this year with Tom. What a weird year. It feels like it was two years ago, three years ago.

And they're moving worse to left tackle. They got that Cody Mock guy who had no front teeth. Oh, yeah. I think Worf is a stud. Absolute stud. Yeah, he is. I like him. It feels like if Baker plays the way he did with the Rams, that this team is going to be really good.

Well, you know, he'll be comfortable because they brought the Wolf back. John Wolford is their third-string quarterback. He spent a lot of time with the Rams. He's a high school guy, right? No, he's be comfortable because they brought the Wolf back. John Wolford is their third-string quarterback. He spent a lot of time with them. His high school guy, right? No, he's hungry like the Wolf neck brace guy. I'm thinking of his – who was the guy that he was in – he's like third-string guy in Cleveland, that Baker. He was like Baker's hero.

They grew up together to where this guy was the older quarterback in Baker's school system, I guess, and Baker looked up to this dude. He was like his third-string quarterback or backup in Cleveland for a minute. Sounds like you made that up. I don't know. I may have. I'm not sure. A lot of information coming in and out of here to this dude. He was like his third string quarterback or backup in Cleveland for a minute. Sounds like you made that up. I don't know. I may have. I'm not sure. A lot of information coming in and out of here.

So maybe. I don't know. But I saw, I think it was on Hard Knocks, they profiled it. Baking this dude. The only thing I remember from that Hard Knocks was Brad Paisley showing up and saying, hey, go win one for the Giffords.

He got in the RV, right? He did, yeah. That was when Bake got the RV outside for the quarterback. And then there was that dude with the rocks and his dad yeah his dad whistled really loud so he could find him you're right yeah that's the only thing that brown's hard knocks was funny then um one dude was playing drums like getting drum lessons i think during camp or they were like they were really active during training camp which i don't i don't ever remember myself being or any of my teammates going out like hey hey, we got

45 minutes free. I'm going to jet out and go look at fish tanks for an hour. I don't know. I don't remember doing that. You didn't do that? I didn't. No. Hugh Jackson and Todd Haley almost got in a fist fight in one of the episodes. Staff meeting. Oh my gosh. That was a great season of Hard Knocks because we got to see one of the

early staff meetings. I remember Hugh, you got mad when you guys are in this seat. Yeah. Let me know. Yeah, I've seen whole situations where people diagnose that. I'm like, well, proper leadership and how do you run meetings? Like all of that. Well, and they had the number one overall pick too.

So that was another huge draw. None of the rookie quarterbacks, or not none of them, but I think most of the rookie quarterbacks can't be on hard knocks. Really? This year because it's also first year head coaches. Oh, okay. What are the the rookie quarterbacks can't be on hard knocks. Really? This year, because it's also first-year head coaches. Oh, okay. What are the stipulations when you can't have hard knocks? Can't have a first-year head coach, I thought.

Can't have went to the playoffs the previous year. Okay. That's it? They could ask you to do it, and you could say, yeah. Yeah, they can force you. They can force you? Or not force you. They can force you if you didn't go to the playoffs

and you don't have a first-year head coach. They could definitely make you do it, right? They should have the Packers do it. Packers would be perfect this year. Because the Packers never have any access like that. You're right. I bet they're trying. And why not just gas up Jordan Love

and kind of this new era of the Packers, like LeFleur too. He seems affable. People like him. It makes a lot of sense. They can really turn people around. They can make it a positive thing, I think. For sure.

Like it should be the Packers or the Jets. They really should. Because the Packers would be awesome just because it's the whole new era. And, you know, that's a team who could be really good if Jordan Love is good. And then the Jets obviously would be awesome because of Rodgers. Is this the four possible teams? Why can't green bay go in there they may have said no i mean of course they could say no that's the thing like green bay would

be awesome i think because it just seems like such a not a green bay thing because they're in the playoff to have is this just a recommendation or where is this from oh those are the that is the only four options that could uh be on hard oh past two seasons okay so they made playoffs two years you can't have it if you they a first-year head coach in place, they have a playoff berth in the past two. And if they've been on Hard Knocks in the past ten. Which a lot of teams have doubled up. Haven't they? Commanders.

Like, when were the Jets on with Rex? Was that over ten years ago? Probably. Yeah. In 2009? Was it? Yeah, 2010. Yeah, when was Rex gone as a coach with the Jets? 2012? It should just be the Jets. 2012? It should just be the Jets. 2013? It has to be the Jets.

Absolutely. You see how jacked Bob Sala is to the head coach? They have some characters, too. Jeff Ulbrich, their D coordinator, is a character. You could show him deadlifting 850 pounds for 10 in between practice. Nate Hackett's new goatee. Yeah. He doesn't even look like the same guy.

He's got a black goatee. Is it long? Is it kind of long hanging off? He looks like a pirate. He does a little bit. Well, his hair might be black, right? He has a shaved head, doesn't he? He's bald. Yeah, I don't know. He's bicking it. He might be. That's what I'm

saying. His hair just might be black. It's like a jet black. What's wrong, too? It looks sweet. Yeah, it does. What do you mean? I think it looks sweet. The picture I saw saw i wasn't sure it was nate hackett though for a while me neither also evy i don't know if you have this there's been some some slander going in my direction of a monument somewhere this this

face of a thing that got carved into the side of a mountain somewhere we need to get some uh we need to get really nailed down and see exactly who this person might be and who they think it looks like somebody on the show this This was added in our group chat. I don't know. I'm not sure who they think this person might be. The exact replica of you. AJ, can you look up? Let me see.

Where am I? What do you want to hold? Yeah. I mean, it is you. I'm not going to lie. The nose is exactly the same. I'm not, yeah. The second I saw it, I thought it was me for a minute.

I was like, oh, what is that? Some picture they took from a long ways away? I mean, who is it again? Stonehenge. Nope. No. Stonehenge doesn't have face. The back of Mount Rushmore?

No. Who is this monument of? It's in South Dakota, though. Someone said it earlier. Who carved it? Oh, it is? Crazy Horse or something, I think they said. Crazy Horse.

Yeah, there it is. Which way should I turn? No, the other way. No, look like just straight. This way? Yeah, maybe just tilt your chin up a little. Yeah, there it is. I mean.

I can't tell which side is which. It's crazy. It's a dead ringer. Yeah. It really is shocking. Good for you, AJ. Yeah. I appreciate it.

I don't know if this is a family member of mine that carved my face into this mountain or what, but I do appreciate it. Hawk Mountain. Can you walk on the head up there this mountain or what, but I do appreciate it. Hawk Mountain. Can you walk on the head up there? It looks like it. I would assume so. It looks like it. How do we not know about this?

Like, how long has this been? Yeah, Crazy Horse, he was a Native American. He was the leader of the Lakota people. Yep, sorry about it. Are you Native American? I could be. Okay. No, but in my region, in where I grew up, there's a lot of that.

Like, where I used to go watch reenactments. He was in the Battle of Little Bighorn, so. Whoa. That was a big one. That was a big one. Did he win? When was this carved? Do we know when this monument was done?

Carved slash what you use, dynamite? How do you do this? Like that detail is impressive. No, they use the best power equipment you can find. If you can see in the lower left there, you see what they're using? I do see that. That is a deer. They're using the haul equipment up and down this mountain.

You're right. That's a little John Deere Gator. Yep, that's right. I mean, that must take, what, years to do this? But what do you even, like, on that, it's so big. So that's it? 1948. What is with the fencing up above?

I think that's where the brain is. But are they trying to hold those rocks from falling or something? Could be. That'd make more sense. It's a beam of light that comes out of it or something. That would be so sweet if it went all the way up to space. That's a pretty tough spot to carve, too. Are you hanging off the side of that deal? Oh, yeah. So many people died while they did this.

1948. 1948, they did it for this guy, but man, they lost a lot of good... Beautiful mountain. It is very beautiful. That's in South Dakota? So is that where – have you guys ever been to Mount Rushmore? No. Very young.

Did you like it? I think it's the angle. Something about the angle. Yeah, it really is the nose. I think Ty said it. The nose and the way the forehead looks. You know what I mean? Even though it doesn't look like his forehead kind of just stops,

it's exactly the same. I take it as a compliment. You should. I take it as an absolute compliment. Yeah, you should tell your kids that's you. I'm going to tell them. You should go there this weekend. Cut this clip for me.

I need to send this to my kids. Let them know. Clip. You guys know this? You want to go on vacation out there next time? They'll be like, nope. No, we don't. The detail is unbelievable.

That's not you and your kids looking at it right there? That is not, yeah. Is that you on the right? Is this a construction site? What are we doing here? This was built in 1948, right? You've got to maintain. Yeah.

Yeah, they still have to make their edits. Is it a national historic monument? Oh, for sure. Oh, 1948, it's 564 feet. Damn. It's a mountain monument under construction. Why? On privately held land in black hills in custard county south dakota custard county it will be taken if you call

the he actually answered oh i didn't know this was a korczak zlokowski piece oh korczak did this no wonder it's so good i get yeah i could tell by how the shading was it was a korczak piece for sure yeah okay well i'm glad we got to the bottom of that, Abby. Thank you. That was putting our little show group chat. Call that number. He answers it like Omec and alleges that he's in Tampa. What's it sound? Oh.

Is that how it goes? Yeah, that's how most rock formations sound. Put that down. I'll make sure to call later today, Tone. What do you want to ask Shams today, Tone? We need to get to the bottom of the John Mann situation. Are we going to talk about Zion? I know you always like to ask him where Zion's at in his recovery.

Nah, I'm kind of out on Zion, to be honest. Until he plays more than eight games in a season, I think I'm just going to take a back seat. I'm just going to let him enjoy the bumpus hines down there in New Orleans and just enjoy his life. Where did Shams work before he was where he is now? Was he ever at a different network? No.

He just re-upped with Stadium and everything he does. He's been there for a while yet, running back. The draft lottery is also tomorrow. That's right. So we see who's going to be the first. How many teams are available to get that number one pick? I think it's the same as the NHL, but the top four or five have the highest percentage.

I think it's like 14%, 14, 14, and then the fourth highest is like 12 or 12 and a half. I'm not sure. It used to be a lot higher. They changed percentages, right, to try to stop tanking. Stop tanking. So this is when the owner sends their kid or whoever to the thing, and you clap if you get the first pair.

Bingo. Pistons have a chance, Foxy? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I mean, the Pistons tanked all year just to have a 14% chance to get Wemby, so we'll see. I hope they get him. I guess the number two overall pick, Scoot Henderson, also very good, but yeah, no, Wemby is the only thing that matters

here. So, that's a lock? One and two are pretty much already set, you're saying? It sounds like it. Yeah, it feels, and then it's the Alabama kid at three. Oh, yeah, that guy. Nice. But, it feels, and then it's the Alabama kid at three. Yeah, that guy. But no, they'll probably rig it somehow. I mean, I assume it won't be as obvious as

the NHL. NHL does it like behind the scenes somewhere else. We'll tell you the results. Let's go Bulls. So really, I think it might go to the Mavs. I think the Mavs. I think the Spurs. Spurs is the one I'm scared of. Is Popovich going to be around? I think he retired. He's done, right? Wasn't this like his last year? Yeah, I thought he retired. But he didn't do

a farewell tour like Coach K? No, he didn't do all that bullshit. No, that's weird. Why not? Where is Coach K? Is he still doing a podcast? He actually just took a job with the NBA. Doing what? Like an advisor or something like that. To a team? No, no, no. To like the entire NBA. To the league? I mean, he was the

coach for Team USA. Saw it last week. Oh yeah, he's got a couple gold medals, right? Yeah, he's got a great NBA. To the league? I mean, he was the coach for Team USA. I saw him last week. Oh, yeah. He's got a couple gold medals, right? Yeah. He's got a great relationship. Bob Knight's still out there? Like, living in the coach.

Are you on TV or anything? Is he doing any commentating? Yeah, he calls games on ESPN still. Bob Knight. Yeah. Yeah. What do you think? He's like 90 years old.

No, he's not fucking out there doing stuff. Oh, with Dickie V? He's still doing games. Well, Dickie V's a different animal. Dickie V can't be stopped. Coach K was named special advisor to basketball operations last week. For the whole NBA? Yeah.

That would probably garner us a nice salary. Oh, yeah. Turns out he didn't like being home very much. NBA is booming. What? He was sick and tired of that dog. John Shire got him. Yeah.

Yeah, thanks for getting me this thing, prick. What was Duke in a good year? North Carolina, who struggled mightily, right? They were number one preseason, didn't make the tournament. Didn't go to the NIT, right? Duke got knocked out. Very good end of the season, then got knocked out early in the tournament.

Their big man is also supposed to be a lottery pick. How's old buddy doing? I went and watched him play when Ohio State played Duke a couple years ago. No, their number one pick. Filipowski? No, the guy from Duke a couple years ago.

I forget the team he went to now even. Paulo, he's in Orlando. Oh, Bankera. He won rookie of the year. I thought he was killing it. He was fun to watch. I got to see him play in person one time, and I was like, okay, that dude, there's something different about that dude.

I didn't know anything about anyone on either team, but I was trying to figure out. I just assumed everybody was going to the NBA. But then they were like, no, that kid, he could easily be number one pick. Yeah, he had a great year. The only kid that really didn't play was Chad Holmgren. He was out the entire year because he hurt his foot in one of those summer leagues. His dad was filming with a camcorder.

Yeah, exactly. It's a ponytail. Oh, man. Yeah, so there's been videos of him. He bulked up a little bit. They're thinking that he – Where's he at now? Oklahoma City.

Gotcha. That's the worry about Wemby is we need to – these tall, skinny people, we need to maybe cut their feet off and put normal people's feet on them. Yes. Why? Because – They always hurt their feet. Because they step on a rock rock and break every bone in their foot.

They need to pack some muscle on is what you need to do, even though it's so difficult with how long you are. Well, and that's the thing about Wemba. I don't know. Is that he actually isn't just like a beanpole. He's got a little muscle to him. Yeah, he does look good. Where's he from again?

France. France. And he's guaranteed for a long time now. They've been saying this guy is the guy. He is the guy. And Jan has been pumping him up for years? Yeah, for like two, three years. And then, yeah, Giannis said on Serge Ibaka's podcast, like, hey,

I know he was saying to Serge, I know you want to play for a couple more years, you know, but there's this kid, Victor Wembley, and he's coming over. And if you're not ready, you better get ready because if he stays healthy, this kid is going to change the NBA. That's what Giannis said. And Giannis has kind of changed. How tall is this dude? 7'3". Can he bring the ball up and everything?

Is he doing that? Oh yeah. Step back 3's. He can dribble. How does any kid ever have a dream of playing the NBA when you have guys like this out there? That are 7'3 and can play point guard. How could you be like, well if I get really lucky and I grow to be 6'5 maybe, which is not tall for the NBA, and I have unbelievable skills in everything I do,

how can you compete with any of this? You can't. You can't. You're right, Ty. Honestly, you can't. They're not the same player, but like Chet Holmgren is 7 feet, and he can do all those things too. That's what I'm saying.

There's no positions anymore. You have to be able to do everything. Yeah. Even watch Draymond. Draymond will dribble 17,000 miles an hour leading the break all the time and dish and everything. Yeah, maybe, but it's still impressive. Like back in the day, guys

are 6'10", whatever, usually aren't doing that. Well, even like 2,000. Like, there isn't, probably Giannis is the only one comparable to Shaq. Like, there will never be another Shaq because that 7'2", big guy that needs the ball in the post, they don't really do that on offense in the NBA anymore.

Does anyone do that where they're like, hey, post him up, let's get the ball to him consistently over and over? Embiid for sure. But he still hits a bunch of shots from the outside. Luka Garza, he's trying to bring back kind of the bowling ball. The thing is he's incredibly skilled from the three-point line as well. He can knock down 18 footers.

Embiid's probably the cool one. But even he'll post up like posts up at like foul line extended and like goes to work there. And he shoots threes and Jokic also completely different player. He's not just a center. Definitely not. He can operate anywhere on the floor. Like there really isn't that kind of old school big man to your point. So yeah, if you're a big man, hey, learn how to dribble, learn how to run the point, learn how to do everything and you have to make threes no matter what position you play.

Also, there is one old school big guy, but everyone in the NBA hates him. That's Rui Gobert. Oh, you're right. Yeah, he is. He doesn't have much in an offensive game, though. No. He should.

The last great one was probably Tyler Hansbro. Yeah, most likely. We see Troy Vincent Sr. here. We got breaking news, I guess. Popped up a tweet a little bit ago, right? Zeed, how long was this? He tweeted like at 42, so like eight, ten minutes ago. Thanks for watching the show, Troy.

Eight, ten minutes. At the prospect's breakfast before the draft, Anthony exhibited a heartfelt act of kindness, humility, and service. This carried me through the day, and by midnight, it just had to be shared with the club because film cannot measure this depth of character. Wow. So we nailed it. So Troy Vincent couldn't stop thinking about it.

At a prospect's breakfast? Is that what it was? Yep. Because we've been really trying to nail down exactly what this event was. People were just fucking throwing eggs and shit all over the place. For real. What are you guys doing at this breakfast? Throwing rolls.

Jalen Carter. Food fight! Because I wonder if they start chucking food. Is there a chance that they thought it was like a restaurant and that they bust your table for you and they just left? Diggs might have been on to something. They might have had hash browns. They might have been putting ketchup packets on the ground

and just fucking squirting them everywhere. You might be right, man. How long did it take? Especially if Will Levis was there. He might have just been eating so fucking hard that he just got – Slamming the table. Yeah, and just eating as fast as possible all the eggs he could and then they just got everywhere.

They could have had guys like dumping syrup all over the ground too. Just a sticky mess. Why would they do that? Banana peels on the ground. But they're kids. They're young. They might have been trying to give someone an awful waffle. What exactly is that, Nick?

Hey, Jay, if you have to ask. I do have to ask, honestly. I assume it's something terrible that you take out your butt cheeks or something. What? What is it? What the hell? I don't know what it is. He said the awful waffle. You don't know either, right? No, I don't. It's just a bad waffle. It doesn't taste good. You know what? Salute your shorts with donkey lips and Bolly Butt, Nick? I remember salute your shorts.

I don't remember any specifics from the program, but yes, I get it. What did you do with the awful waffle, though? You never told me. I still don't know what it is. You got to tell us, Nick. Don't. If it's on Salute Your Shorts, I think we can say that was a Nickelodeon show, right? It was, but that was a different Nickelodeon. That was when they pushed the boundaries.

It was a different era when Nickelodeon was really pushing the boundaries. That was Goosebumps era. Are you afraid of the dark? This wasn't Lumpkin. Oh, this is who was there? That's just who was the draft, so I'm guessing that... Oh, I don't know. We don't know who was there really at this breakfast. We wasn't Lumpkin. Oh, this is who was there? That's just who was the draft, so I'm guessing that... Oh, I don't know. We don't know who was there really at this breakfast. We can't be killing whoever could have technically possibly

been in the region. Yeah, there's draft picks supposedly there. Who knows who was there? Ian White and Christian. Both of your guys were there dumping syrup all over the ground. What if these guys are honestly getting... People are tweeting and they're getting a bunch of heat. Like, where were you guys? Like you said, you're stepping on ketchup packets

and just squirting syrup all over for no reason? It's possible. What if footage came out and they were? They were just being cool. It would be awesome. Just taking bites of stuff and throwing it on the ground. That would be pretty funny, actually. And Anthony Richards is trying to stop everyone.

He's got eggs hanging from his ears. He's all frustrated. This is my day! Stop! And someone just hums an apple at his face. He's not cold. Catches it, baby. That'd be sweet.

I mean, we can't slander these guys. We don't know what happened. No, we don't know. It could have easily been a restaurant where you got to take your tray and throw it away yourself like a Chipotle. But these guys may have thought, hey, I thought someone said, hey, leave your stuff there. We'll get it. How bad do you feel when you go to those restaurants and they tell you to leave your shit there?

It is weird, isn't it? And it's just like, no. No, we got it. But the trash is right. I'll just put it right there, right? Yeah, I don't know. Or if you go to Chipotle, I bet you throw away your baskets, don't you, and your other things you're not supposed to throw away.

You throw away your basket. You probably don't pay enough attention. No, no, no. So it sounds like you do every time. The old classic thing is people that leave the grocery cart, you don't pay enough attention. No, no, no. So it sounds like you do it. The old classic thing is people that leave the grocery cart, you don't put it in the thing. That drives me nuts. I did that and then I didn't realize that

it was a big deal and I've done it for the past few years, Tony. Okay? So you just leave your cart wherever your car was, basically? Yeah. It's like, alright, see you later. They say that's the most basic of all operations to tell someone's a good person or not really yes and that's why i've changed my good for you yeah you can do that yeah i didn't know i had a friend who worked in the business

and they're like no it's fine i get to spend more time outside i'd rather do that than have to just go out and then come back in i was like okay good to know so from personal experience you said hey they want these things strewn about everywhere. That was my truth. Oh, that is your truth. They would rather hang out out there, have a little break, just kind of chill. Cigarettes? Yeah.

Yes. Smoke more butts out there. Yeah, and they never flicked them on the ground. Wow. Because that's littering. They could. Get a full head of steam and just send the shopping cart all the way to the end of the parking lot. It's so easy to put it in. Because you can do that where if you see the old thing, the old corral, the cart corral,

you can go and you can still. I mean, I've thrown angled shots from 60 yards away before. And it gets in there and then you feel so good. Well, I always thought everyone, like, that's the goal. When you go to the grocery store, like, you park right next to the cart corral so you can put your shit away and then just slam it in there. That's what I do now. That's exactly what I do in the old cart corral. Yes, I park right

if I go to Target or maybe Walmart. I guess I don't really put I don't think that far in the head. I always put my cart back, but now I need to park by the old cart corral. Every time. That's all I think about. Sometimes if there's not a parking spot there, I'll fucking just take a couple laps. I'll go laps for 10-15 minutes until it opens up play a couple more songs it is it is that's the way to do it now

i mean if you're doing it i think you're some creeper pedophile security stops no sir i'm just i'm just waiting for that spot right next to car number one open bingo i'm taking that sucker out so when i get done here i can just pop this thing in there yeah it's genius but you sir but you wasted 25 minutes circling the whole place. See, I don't mean by being far away because then you could run and then fucking jump. Jump? Yeah. Don't let it tip, though.

Make sure you don't let it tip. Yeah, you're going to lean forward. Yeah. It's fun. Johnny Knoxville and Brad Pitt, didn't they do that? They used to throw themselves down. Bradley Pitt did that? Yeah, Brad Pitt put a gorilla costume on.

He put a mask on and was running around. They were throwing people through shopping. Oh, yeah. Were they in the same Brad Pitt? What? I think there's only one Brad Pitt put a gorilla costume on. He put a mask on and was running around. They were throwing people through shopping. Oh, yeah. Were they in the same Brad Pitt? What? I think there's only one Brad Pitt. I agree. Yeah.

Brad's not even his real name. It's not? No, it's Bradley. No, William. His real name's Bill Pitt. Is it really? He should have stuck with that. He's from Missouri.

He is from Missouri. Really? Yeah. That's Midwest, right? Probably a big Shane Ray guy. You think? Yeah. Shane Ray's back in the league. He is. Back. Really? Yeah. That's Midwest, right? Probably a big Shane Ray guy. You think? Yeah. Shane Ray's back in the league.

He is. Back in the league. Shane Ray, so who signed him right now? The Buffalo Beals. Buffalo Beals signed Shane Ray. He's been out of the league for almost five years. Is that correct? In 2019.

What pick was he? First round. First rounder. Yep. Has he been playing? If you look at it, there's a picture of him on Instagram. This dude is, he's properly jocked. As I like to say it on here, look at it, there's a picture of him on Instagram. This dude is properly jocked. Look at this dude's arms.

I would sign him too, but he's been out five years. He's played in Canada before. Where did he last play football? He was jobbing tight ends off the line up in Canada for sure. I believe that was the last time. Did he do any XFL or USFL? I don't know. The last NFL team he was with was Denver.

When was that? 2019, I believe. Oh, my gosh. So he's been out of the league that long. Yeah, he's been out of the league for a while. Do we know anything about his story? Like what's been going on? No.

And what made him come back? It's hard to get back into it, I feel like. I know. I wonder who, maybe he knew someone in the Bills. I bet it's been a process for the last year or so. There's probably someone kicking the tires. Hey, what are you thinking about? And he's probably working out, feeling

good. Maybe it was Vaughn. I was just going to say it would have been a perfect place for him to go. In Denver. Yeah. That's a great story. If he makes the team and he catches on and has a nice role this year and makes plays, how cool would that be? Well, it's Nick's point. If Vaughn Miller, the GM, kind of made this move. Hey, Shane. Is this Vaughn's first move

as a GM? It feels like it's very possible. Vaughn needs it to work out, too. Yeah, and he can show them the ropes again. Show them the way to continue to be an NFLer. Okay, how many years after Vaughn retires do you think he already gets a GM job? Like, does he have to wait? Can he go straight from playing, boom, I'm a GM next year? Five years.

What is it like, Quessie? Quessie Adolfo Manza. Because he's a former player, right? Did he go right into it? I don't know if he got it. I think he's had other positions in the front office. Wouldn't you want Vaughn right away as his connection with players? That would help.

At least an assistant GM, right? The connection with players is big, but GMs, it's connections with other GMs and other teams and owners and coaches and scouts that you can work with. There's assistant GMs. No people. Spots. You would assume he would have to have another front office job for a couple years. No team. That's more unlikely.

It's more unlikely to have a player go direct from playing to GM than playing to coaching, I would imagine. As a head coach. Agreed. I know Jeff Saturday got hired. How long was John Lynch? John Lynch was a few years, right? Yeah, he did TV.

John Lynch, he did Fox for four or five years, right? He was the number one guy on Fox, yeah. He was. Yeah, and then he went to the front office, or did he go right to GM? Right to GM, I believe. Okay. I think he went only left for the GM job. Same thing with Mayock.

I think they're not going to leave to go be director of pro personnel. Yeah, I know. Unless you really, that's your goal, and you're just doing TV to get there. Like Dan Orszalowski, he's going to eventually be a head coach, right? Absolutely. Seems like it, sooner rather than later. He said he talked to a couple teams, what was it, two years ago about an OC gig? And then I think even this last half.

Every year he's talking, right? Yeah. He's smart. He's smart because he's keeping his options open for ESPN and all of his networking gigs. And he's also letting them know, hey, you know, I might take off and go be a GM or a coach soon. So pay me more money. Yeah, it's genius. Sports!

Have been talking about it for the last couple hours, boys. We have Shams Sharani will be joining us here in a little bit. I don't know, five, ten minutes. We'll see what Shams has to do. I know maybe he's digging into the old John Morant situation a little bit more. Oh, yeah. You think he is? Yeah.

He's working the phones? Yeah. I'm thinking he is. Is he? I'm thinking he is. Okay, really? Really, Diggs? What do you think is going to happen Diggs How does this whole thing play out With all your fake enthusiasm

I'm thinking something's going to happen Is this your Canadian accent No We'll show you his videos later I think you should leave I don't know if I know what you're talking about He's a very very funny man You would enjoy them a lot

What's his name Tim about. He's a very, very funny man. You would enjoy them a lot. What's his name? Tim Robinson. Oh, Tim Robbins. He's in movies. Nope. No, no. Son.

Tim Robinson. Okay, the Admiral. You wore his mask on Halloween. Not Andy Dufresne. What Halloween mask? I don't know who that mask was I wore on Halloween. That was him. Yeah, that mask was wild.

No, he's just a funny guy. Oh, good. That's from one of his skits. He used to be a writer on SNL. Your face you made out there, he just did a Mad Mel face when he said that to me. He looked at your Mad Mel with his teeth and everything that you do. We know you study him very close. What were you saying, Tone, about Ja? I guess, so

I don't know the bylaws of the CBA and the NBA. So I don't know exactly. Collected bargaining agreement. CBA. But unless it's in there that says like, hey, you can't own one or have one on camera or

something like, oh, well, that does it. There's a section in the CBA between the NBA and NBA Players Association, which says that players are not permitted to have guns or deadly weapons whenever a player is traveling on any NBA relatedrelated business, whether on behalf of the player's team, the NBA, or league-related entity. So yeah, this is not against the rules then.

So then they can't do it. He was on his free time in the offseason in a car with his buddy. Yeah, but did the car have like a Grizzlies bumper sticker on it? Because they could argue where they're going. I hope John's buddy doesn't have a Grizzlies bumper sticker on his car. The interior was blue. It kind of have a Grizzlies bumper sticker on his car. The interior was blue. Kind of looked like Grizzlies blue. What if he had personalized stitching or something

that had the Memphis logo in the headrest? Is that a team situation? So you can't have a gun. You could argue. And is it really just a bigger deal because of John Morant? It's not just every single player. It's because of the previous situation, right? Second offense is the biggest problem, right?

He didn't learn his lesson. Like we're saying, I'm saying second offense, but again, he didn't. It's not against the law. Second questionable decision, I guess we could say, right? Sure, yeah, in a very short period of time. Second, why are you doing this? You don't have to do this decision. Well, obviously, I feel like he's doing it because he's

like anybody else does. You're pissed at what? I disagree that they can tell me to shut up or not do this, so I'm going to do it again. I just think he's young and he doesn't give a fuck. He's just listening to some banging ass tunes going fast in his car and he's got that thing on him and he wants to

swing it around a little bit. I didn't make the best decision at 23 either. Nobody did, did they? No. I mean, stuff happens. What do you mean, Con? I was still in college. People do those stupid things all the time.

But it's just jaw. Is this dominating the headlines for all the shows this morning? I can see through the screen here. I can see jaw. They have a list of events going back to March 4th, whenever all this situation happened. Yeah, it was Tatum, 51, and Jaw. That was kind of the two main things.

And I also did see from Stephen A., and this is just a quote on Twitter of what he said, but Stephen A. said he's been hearing from people around the league, in the league, that they think he should get a year's suspension. What? Mike Wilbon is saying, I saw the clip where he said his son isn't going to be – he's not going to let his son wear the shoes? Yep.

The Josh shoes? No. His family does not support those shoes. How old is his son? I think 28. Oh. That's a good pair to you. I'm not sure.

I hope my kids are listening to me when I'm 28. Yeah. I hope I can dictate their shoe choices. I'm not positive how old he is. But you've got to assume that there are multiple people out there. There are, yeah. But there's also a lot of people that don't know this even happened, too. Absolutely.

Like, I don't think, like my dad watches the NBA. He knows. Because he actually follows, he gets information off Twitter. He doesn't tweet, but he knows. He's on there. It's like everything. It congregates everything in one spot. It's like what you do on Twitter.

Yeah, I read. That's how I get your news. Up-to-date news. But I don't think, yeah, I don't know. I guess it's a big deal. If you follow the NBA at all, you definitely know. Maybe we all just need to take a breath. Because the kids, I know a lot of kids. I know a ton of kids, actually, who Jha is their favorite player. That's why this will be interesting to see how it plays out. I know multiple of my buddy's friends and

my kid's friends. My kids love Jha. Yeah, exactly. What you're saying is exactly why. His first time he got in trouble, my two older kids were like, Jha got suspended? What happened, Dad? What's he doing? I was like, I don't know. Something with a gun. I'm not sure.

If you're under a teen, you're probably not watching first take. No. Never. Oh my God, Jha had a gun? I can't support this guy anymore. You don't care. You're seeing clips on TikTok of him dunking and shit like that. This guy's awesome. I love watching

this guy. The thing that grinds my gears the most about it is, you know, that's all we're talking about today. And we're taking headlines away from Stoner, Jackie Aces, making it to the Western Conference Finals of the NHL Stanley Cup playoffs. That's right. It's a big deal, right? we're talking about today and we're taking headlines away from stoner jackie aces making it to the western conference finals of the nhl stanley cup playoffs that's right it's a big deal right tell people so the vegas golden knights best barn in the nhl that's right we've seen they do they make it look like an aquarium on the ice with sharks flying around right who sounded

nice iron uh do we know who i think they going to go back and deliberate a little bit. I do not know who's sounding the siren yet. But listen, there will be no expenses spared. I can guarantee that. What does that mean? Maybe. Maybe a Carrot Top-Chris Angel duo. Maybe.

Maybe Chris Angel on top of Carrot Top's shoulders. Okay. And they morph into one human using magic? Correct. They flip him around, like stand up 69, and they come down from the rafters? Or he picks up Carrot Top's head and puts it on his own and takes his off and puts it on Carrot Top's body. They switch heads. Yeah.

What if they switch heads? Then the Knights sweep. Then the Knights. Then Stoner's going to have to bring the cup here, and we drink out of the cup again. I'm hoping that that's already in the works if they win. I'm sure it is. It definitely is. Stoner knows how much I appreciate it.

But it's a big deal, though. Stoner, we thought he was out with that back injury, right? He was done. He couldn't walk. And now, here we go. He's leading his team into the finals. Well, fucking Marchesol actually led the team. Yeah.

Donnie Marchesol with a natural hat trick last night in the second period. Natural. Natural. Yes. No empty netter. So all the big dogs are gone, huh? The old school names, I should say. I don't know.

The old school, like, history hockey guys. Yeah, maybe. But the Golden Knights were the number one seed in the Western Conference. We have two expansion teams right there on the Western side. So are they a big dog? I don't know. Number one seed? Usually that's a pretty big dog. Expansion team, right?

They're both somewhat. If Seattle wins this game seven tonight, AJ, Gary Bettman's going to be licking his chops. He's got all his Southern teams. He's got his expansion teams in the conference finals battling for the cup. He's going to eat that up hashtag grow the game hashtag yes it is right how many hockey teams are there 30 do we know 32 32 just like okay i didn't know that how many do you think they want they're gonna eventually keep 50 yeah 38 no they could definitely do two more in the next couple years and not have it watered

i'm sure they're looking right i'm sure they're looking, right? I'm sure they're looking. They're trying to figure that out. They're always looking. If the right opportunity were to present itself, I think Gary would chomp at the bit. I'd say they're looking for another expansion team. Okay. Maybe somewhere in the Midwest.

Really? Maybe a city that's got a little sandpaper, a little grit, a little jam. Is there anywhere like that around here? I know. Let me think. A little jam. Yeah, there are places. Places that don't take no crop.

Do they fix their potholes in these places? No. They try to fill them with jam and it didn't work. Yeah. I thought it might. And that kind of adds to the grit. The sandpaper. The jam.

So are the NHL players, though, because they have this escrow account where they get paid in. I don't understand completely how it works. But depending on how the ratings are and, like, if big market teams, how the league makes money, they get checks back. Yeah, hockey-related revenue. But this isn't good for the players. I'm guessing that they aren't like Boston. There isn't Chicago or the big, like, markets aren't not. Their New York is not in the finals still.

Exactly, yeah. Boston, Brad Marchand actually has tweeted this about the Carolina Hurricanes. Right, Nick? That's what this was? Yeah, he's taking a couple shots. What did he say? That the whole reason they have to do this

is because of places like Carolina and Florida because of the fact that they don't really make as much money as a Chicago, a Boston, Pittsburgh. There's 20,000 screaming Caniacs at every game, brother. Unfortunately, only in the playoffs, there are 20,000 screaming Caniacs. Really? That's not true.

The problem is there aren't 20,000 screaming Caniacs across the nation in every city tuning in to watch those games. Oh. It had to be big for the league that they're on ESPN now, right? That had to be gigantic. Yeah, until they got bumped by Sunday Night Baseball. I heard something happened.

Was that last night? It was a 9-1 score, I believe, and they missed the first goal in the Edmonton Uncrocken. And not crocken, I mean nights. So they stuck with what baseball game? It was a blowout? Yeah, I don't know what game it was, but it was Sunday Night Baseball. It was 9-1, and then they eventually went to the old double box, and you could finally see the goal on the right-hand side of the screen.

Yeah, I heard the first goal happened on the double box, right? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, it was crop. I mean, Gary Bettman has got to be so upset. Yeah, especially when, I mean, Sunday Night Baseball has been fucking Braves Padres for the last eight weeks, so maybe we shuffle a few more teams in there. Has A-Rod been doing it?

He does an alternate broadcast with Michael Kay. Is that Apple TV? No, it's on ESPN. Is Apple TV still doing their thing? That was a huge hit last year. They have a Friday night showcase game. Who's doing those games? Two guys who... I would say the commentating isn't the best part of it.

The alternate angles and the camera shots. Is that where they interview players during the game, though? They do that at ESPN. That's cool. Oh, they're doing it at ESPN. Yeah. Because that's cool.

My old buddy a couple months ago had made a sweet catch. Why he's being interviewed answering a question. Talking to Torval. I don't know. Was it Torval? Torval had a good one. I do remember that. A couple guys.

It was fun. You can hear him. He's on his horse. Boom, makes a catch. Mookie? I think it was Mookie. He throws it in. He's still talking to the guys.

It was really cool. Mookie's cool. Baseball's figured it out, though. The time thing's good, right? Yeah. Everyone's still a fan of that? Yeah, I think so. Games are moving a lot quicker.

We'll find out here in a month. We forgot about old buddy, the crazy pitcher who had the substance on his hand. Yeah, Scherzer. He got 10 games? I think so. Is he back? 10 days? Is he back?

Has he explained it? What happened? He didn't think he did anything wrong. What was on his hand? Was anything on his hand? It was sweat, rosin, and a little bit of John. He was adamant, though, that he didn't have to get 10 games. I think it was sweat and rosin.

For a pitcher, 10 games doesn't really mean shit. He just missed two stars. Rosin or pine tar, though? Rosin. That's the bag, though. When you mix rosin with sweat, like you can – David Cohen actually did like a pretty sweet little demonstration You can hold the ball out

In your palm And it won't drop But if you're sweating You pick up the rosin bag, right? That's legal For sure, but they're saying guys will go into the dugout And use rosin in the dugout Get a little bit on your palm

So you can put a little on the ball Maybe some blueberry jam. Blueberry jam. Reach it into the grundles and get sweat. You just got to step off the mound. If you want to get to the rosin bag, you got to get off to the box. Step off under your belt. Reach under there.

Get you a good swipe. Retuck your shirt back in. Get back on the mound. I don't know if you're going to be able to do that with the new time clock they have on those. Guys are going to be pitching with no pants with the new time clock they have on those. It's going to have to be quick, yeah. Guys are going to be pitching with no pants on. They're cutting holes in their pocket.

Savannah Bananos are. Are they? Cutting holes? I believe so. What are we doing? Oh, yeah, there it is. Oh, this is David Cohn. He must have it on his fingers. Obviously.

Yeah, he put it on. So he did that, like, was this on one of the shows? This is on Sunday Night Baseball. That's pretty sweet. And so that's what they say he probably had on his palm. Couldn't he say, hey, I'm just a sweaty dude. I picked up the rosin bag. That's probably what he And so that's what they say he probably had on his palm. Couldn't he say, hey, I'm just a sweaty dude. I picked up the rosin bag. That's probably what he was saying, right? Probably. Like everybody

else does in between pitches. Probably. Umpire maybe had an axe to grind with him. We don't know. There's a chance. David Cone. He could sling that rock. Yeah, Cone was an absolute stud. Really? Oh yeah. Yankees. Yankee legend, Met legend, Royals legend. Yeah, Coney was an absolute stud. Really? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yankees?

Yankee legend, Met legend, Royals legend. Yeah, he's a pitch for everybody. Now, Max Scherzer, though, that dude is an absolute madman. He's very fun to watch. Very fun. Two-color different eyes. Yep. Yeah, that's always been an interesting thing to me.

I know animals that have that. I don't know many humans. You know many humans that have that? No. He's the only one I know. Did he go to college somewhere? Do we know? that. I don't know many humans. Do you know many humans that have that? No. He's the only one I know. Did he go to college somewhere? Do we know? I don't know his backstory. I can't remember where he went to.

Can you imagine that dude throwing gas in college at college players with those metal bats? No thank you. Former Tigers legend. Big time legend. What about Verlander? How's he rolling? Does he still hurt? They're on the Mets together and they're not doing great together

Oh yeah, because the new owner came in and brought them all in, right? Steve Cohen? Yep, another Cohen Well, Cohen David Cohen, C-O-N-E, I believe You get it Let's put that 5-Hour Energy phone line up there What's the number there, Tiggs, for people that want to call in

if we do get to the phone calls eventually? I believe it's 1-833-4-3-2. Da Dome, right? 1-833- 4-3-2-3-6-6-3, correct? I think I can read that right. He did it. Da Dome. Da Dome! Da Dome! I don't know if Shams is coming on or not.

I think he was originally going to be just connected. Good, we're going to have Shams here in a second. You just let me know, Z, whenever he is ready. We're excited for Shams, but it's also a weird time for the NBA. It's a weird time for John Morant. I mean, there's all kinds of stuff going on. We could possibly have a Lakers-Celtics finals. Yeah, that'd be awesome.

That's exactly what the NBA wants. So many people will be busted in their pants. Oh, yeah. With the networks and the front offices. Oh, yeah. Well, Rob Palenka, he's crafted this whole Lakers squad, right? Yeah. He the networks and the front offices. Yeah. Well, Rob Blanca, he's crafted this whole Lakers squad, right? He's getting a bunch of credit. With LeBron.

Yeah, he is getting a lot of credit. I still think there is a chance that it's not Lakers-Celtics. It's Nuggets-Heat. I think there's a massive chance that happens as well. The Celtics aren't losing to the Heat. Right now, and I hate this shit more than anything,

but they did this. Someone did a percentage on chances to make the NBA Finals, and they had the Celtics at 97% chance and the Heat at 3% chance. Well, that's great news for you. It's just ridiculous. You love that, right? What the fuck are we talking about? Well, let's ask a guy that absolutely knows what he's talking about, guys,

without further ado. Let's bring him in. I know he's been waiting for a little bit. He has tons of news. I'm sure he is trying to break Mr. Shams Sharania. What's up, Shams? AJ, the host. AJ, the host.

We're here for that. That's right. We're here for that. Hey, I appreciate you, Shams. Your background looks sweet, too. I don't know if you're at a Topgolf or what you're doing, but what's going on? I know we had to bump you back a little bit. You got all kinds of news happening. is there stuff going on behind the scenes that

we don't know about and what's happening with john moran a lot of meetings going on uh aj right now it's actually combine week so you guys in the nfl have combine we have the nba draft combine week i'm actually in chicago undisclosed location undisclosed meeting lunch that i just had so maybe you'll you'll have to just stay tuned later this week. We might break that news on PMS later this week. Never know what can happen. But yeah, I mean, the John Morant storyline for sure is the biggest one around the league because I don't think there's ever been an example of this where you have one of the faces of the league, arguably Kevin Durant a year ago said, this is the most marketable. This is the face of the NBA. A player

like this getting caught up in this situation where you're flashing a gun two times in three months, got suspended for eight games the first time, met with Adam Silver. And in that meeting, I've told Adam Silver, essentially told John Morant, we can't have this happen. And John Morant was very convincing that he learned from it. And even people around him are like, he knows how much he's put himself through, how he's jeopardized the Nike deal, the NBA deal. He will be better. And then two months later, the same thing happens. And this is all, I mean, it's a pattern of behavior, right? And it's not like his video got leaked. It's not like someone caught him. This is him and his group are publicly displaying this and so these are all signs that

you know the league there's concern around the grizzlies aj that they're going to come down hard um on john morant and that this is this is going to be potentially a serious suspension so is it up to the grizzlies or is it up to the nba and adam silver and who who does the punishment come from it's going to eventually come from Adam Silver. The Grizzlies initially have already suspended him, as I reported. They suspended him essentially indefinitely, right? So, like, they're not playing right now. There's nothing to suspend him from as far as games.

But all team activities, he's been suspended for this offseason as of right now, and the rest will be up to the league. And so it'll be Adam Silver. They're going to go through their own investigation, their own review process. for this offseason as of right now, and the rest will be up to the league. And so it'll be Adam Silver. They're going to go through their own investigation, their own review process. Last time it took several days, about a week plus for this investigation. So I would expect a similar investigation. They're going to have to talk to Morant.

They're going to have to talk to people around him and really get a sense of this situation. But this is not one like it was in Denver. So when he had this initial incident in Denver where he got suspended eight games, he was intoxicated at a nightclub. There was Denver police involved, and he was flashing a gun at the club. Oh, he was. Okay. In the club.

In the club, he was flashing a gun. We weren't sure if it was in the club he flashed it or in the car later. What? Well, no. In Denver in March, he flashed it or in the car later or what well no in in denver in march he flashed it at a night so that's a leak we were wondering if he broke the law that's technically is that illegal there because this what he did in the car now this new one that's not technically illegal we don't think we're just trying to figure that out so i don't think he he didn't break any laws in denver the denver police cleared him of all you know the

investigation they actually had an investigation into john morant they investigated him he was cleared of anything even the other day i mean if you look at the video it looks like it's happening in broad daylight like this is not something that's happening at night there's no alcohol that you see anywhere near that video um i don't think he broke any laws the first time in denver i don't think he broke any laws this time but when you think about the laws of morality and how you want to behave when you you we we all aj me you everyone we're all responsible for our own actions and so when you're him and you just did something very similar two months ago you you put the end your nba team your sponsorships everything at jeopardy and you do the same thing again that's why it's gonna you're gonna see a more stringent penalty the second go around.

The NBA – I know the NFL is huge on if you're a previous offender. Like if you have a helmet-to-helmet contact, yeah, your first fine might be 25 grand. They might bump it up to 75 the next time. Is the NBA big on that? Because I know – I would assume the NBA looks and said, hey, we already suspended you for something very similar and here you are doing this again. Are they going to try to bring the hammer down on this guy?

I think the biggest thing is that we got your word that you understood the gravity of this, that this would not happen again, that you understood the position that you put yourself, your family, your team, and you'd be better. And the same thing happened again. And I think that's the thing. It's like you got one strike. now this is going to be strike two, and it's a situation where the league's not going to have a choice.

If the investigation shows that that was a firearm in his hand, that it was actually over the weekend, which it seemed to be, if everything confirms that, you would assume a harsher penalty than just eight games. Austin Conner? Yeah, Shams, you just said the laws of morality. Who the hell decides what the laws of morality are? I think it's ambulance.

I think it's the police and it's ambulance. Uh-oh. They're after me, actually. Maybe I'm not following the laws of morality. Take off. You can start running. No, I mean, I think when you look at it from a position of responsibility, right? Adam Silver, the statement that he put out, I mean, you just can't have a gun,

especially at a nightclub, and then the way he was banishing in the car. I mean, I think there is a level of responsibility that he has as a max player for the grizzlies as an endorser signature shoe at nike uh powerade as well um there's a level of responsibility that comes with that touch mitt yeah shams uh shifting gears a little bit away from this i'm sure uh we'll get back to it but there have been like five very high profile coaches who have been fired in the last like three weeks or so. Is any of this surprising that some of these guys are getting shit-canned early? And do you think that everyone who has been fired,

are we just kind of doing a mix-and-match plug-and-play here? Will all these guys be coaching just a different team next year? There's going to be some musical chairs, no question. I think a lot of it is going to be, when you think about Detroit, Milwaukee, Phoenix, Toronto. They're all going after kind of the same types of guys. Detroit, maybe you'll see them go somewhere else. But I do think coaches like Mati Williams, Mike Budenholzer, Nick Nurse, those are all going to be guys that are in play.

But I could see getting an interview in Phoenix. Nick Nurse, I could see being in play in Milwaukee. Monty Williams, I could see being in play in Milwaukee. So you're going to have these guys. JJ Redick. JJ Redick wants to coach. He did interview for Toronto, but I have not heard of any progress. You think there's a good chance that somebody hires him straight out of ESPN?

I mean, there's always a chance, AJ. Now, all he's got to do is put himself in a position to get interviews, and he's doing that right now. I do think there's a lot of players that are fans of J.J. Redick as a leader, as a person. But there's no question there's going to be some musical chairs. Phoenix firing their head coach over the weekend that's gonna that becomes the most desirable job potentially on the market

because you have two guys under contract for multiple years um moving forward they're locked in an attractive market uh this new ownership matt ishpia he is eating three years 21 million dollars on monty williams contract and now he's gonna go pay another coach significant money. So he's not messing around. He's already in. He's trying to win a championship the next three to five years with Kevin Durant and Devin Booker. I know you guys were just in Phoenix. You guys should have told me this was coming. You know?

I was waiting on you guys to text me. Yeah, I mean, you could have never seen it coming, Choms, with the KD and Devin Booker. But is Doc Rivers going to get shitcanned? Because it seems like it's heading that direction, especially after James Harden said that their relationship is just okay. I think they're going to reevaluate for sure. I think there will be meetings this week to decide

and come up with the future direction of offseason plans for the Sixers. But listen, I think there are a lot of things you can look at with Philadelphia this postseason. And one of them, they never really could get that pick and roll game going with Joel Embiid and James Harden. You saw the pocket pass, the pick and roll, that kind of went away as the series went along. Boston conceded the corners. We saw P.J. Tucker get open in the corners. Their shooters got open in the corners. James Harden, it's game seven. He was making drives and he was finding the shooters in the corners. What they weren't conceding was that pick and roll

and that pocket pass between Joel Embiid and James Harden. And I think that is something you can look at. Were the right adjustments made at the end of the day to combat those issues? That's something that Philadelphia is going to have to go through. Tone Diggs. Choms, is the NBA drooling over the potential matchup of Celtics-Lakers in the final? I mean, I think everyone is probably drooling over that, right? I mean, it's two biggest markets.

I know Boston Conner is. Hell yeah. Or maybe he's not. I don't know. But I know deep down Boston Conner wants to say that we beat the Lakers. I beat the Lakers. Absolutely. No doubt about it.

I mean, who wouldn't want that matchup but i think it is interesting there's a rematch of the bubble finals who's who else is excited i'm excited hell yeah i don't know about the bubble matchup uh but you saw the lakers for sure do you think at least around the league and from the people you talk to does this kind of solidify how legitimate the bubble was? Because there's always that debate. Was it like a real championship or not? Do you think this kind of, yeah, solidifies it as something, especially three years later, that it's the same matchups? Boston Conner, I was in the bubble, so I might be a little biased.

I personally think it was high-level basketball that was down there. Guys were competing. Everyone had the same threshold. Like, everyone was on the same footing, same ground. So there's really no excuses. But to me, all these teams, I mean, think about it. All these teams, the cores, they're all the same. Denver, Nicole Yoko, Jamal Murray, Michael Porter Jr.,

the only guy they added, Aaron Gordon. Lakers, LeBron, AD, they got a bunch of role players, supporting cast around those two guys, just like in the bubble. Boston, Jason Tatum, Jalen Brown, Marcus Smart. Yes, they've added a few pieces here and there. And then Miami, Jimmy Butler, Bam Adebayo. So all the core pieces are there. Everything else has changed.

So we'll have to see if the Lakers can win it all. If they don't win it all, maybe it counts, maybe it doesn't. I don't know. Oh, we will see. So I was getting back to John Morant quickly. What's the timeline look like? And if you had to, you know, be a pundit and try to, you know, guess what could happen, like how do they handle this?

How long is he suspended? Is it possible we're hearing rumors of all kinds of 50 games, the full season, all of this. Like is everything up in the air right now? I think everything is up in the air. And honestly, there really doesn't have to be a timeline. It's not like there's no games for Memphis until September.

The NBA could take as long as they want throughout this offseason. I would assume because of how high profile this is, it'll be expedited just a little bit, but there's really no timeline. Is Nike going to drop him? Is Nike going to keep him?

That's a big question. I have not heard back yet from Nike on their plans with Ja Morant. They already dropped Kyrie, so you lose Kyrie and Ja. That's a big deal for them, isn't it? For sure. I mean, they've invested a lot of money, a lot of equity into Ja Morant. They gave him his own signature shoe this year. It's very rare when a player launches a signature shoe midseason.

That's what John Morant did. And it came right around the time where he had the incident in March. So for John Morant, I think there will be some level of a suspension. He's already been suspended, so I'm not breaking news there. But I think there will be some suspension. He already got eight games the first time. It's happened again. So, you know, ruling would only show that it would be more significant than that.

Boston Connor? Yeah, Sean, stay safe over there. Those sirens are just continuing to go, so you're definitely in Chicago. But Oakland A's officially, I believe, got the land in Vegas for their baseball stadium. Are we going to see a Vegas basketball team announcement possibly soon kind of adding to the expansion? And if they do add that team, do you think that they'll try and add another maybe in Seattle or somewhere else?

You see, I don't want to shatter your hopes and your dreams. I don't expect it to be soon for the NBA. I do think it'll be soon-ish. Could it be three, four, five years away potentially? I don't think that's out of the realm of possibility. A couple years maybe. But I don't think it's like I'm going to be tweeting something out. I don't think I'll be tweeting something out in the next little while.

Damn it. Sean, do you think Ishba would go after Izzo, try to bring him into the NBA? Why not? There's MSU connections, right, Evie? Go green. That's not going to happen, AJ. It sounds like it is.

Let the man speak, Foxy. Why not? Come on, let him speak. I do not expect that to be a pursuit for the Suns. I think they're looking more toward an NBA coach who's experienced. A couple guys. Ty Lue. Ty Lue. Well, no not good enough. Ty Lue.

Well, no, I mean, Ty Lue. He's under contract with the Clippers. You know, they could discuss an extension with him and the Clippers. I think that's something that a lot of people on the league expect. There would be extension conversation. If they can't reach an agreement on a deal, does he become available for Phoenix? I think they're going to wait and see what happens there.

Nick Nurse, another guy I would keep an eye on in Phoenix. They're still trying to compile a list, probably 6-7 deep, but I do not expect Tom Izzo, as of right now, to be among the candidates. Are there going to be any big shakeups, Sean, with teams? Because I saw something with the Lakers going after Chris Paul, and then obviously

with the Clippers. Warriors too. Warriors, yeah, with Draymond. Is he going to still be there? Are there going to be some moving and shaking around the NBA this offseason as far as players go? There always is. There always is. I think for the sake of

the Warriors, as of right now, they want to keep Draymond Green, Stephen Curry, and Clay Thompson. Draymond Green has a player option, $27 million. But I'm told the warriors want to give him a new deal a multi-year deal whether he opts in and extends whether he opts out and does new contract in july they want to keep him and it's interesting when the season started the conversation was is this jaymond green's last year with the warriors he had the

punch on jordan pool everyone's saying the dynasty's over they're gonna break it up but they want and stephan curry wants this thing to keep going. And if Steph Curry wants this thing to keep going, it's probably going to keep going. As far as the Lakers, I mean, they just made it to the conference finals. They made all these trades during the season. I would assume they would want to bring this team back, see how this team does this season.

Obviously, there's another round to go, maybe two rounds to go, see how this team does. But they clearly have something good here going. That's a sweet jacket you have, by the way, but Toshman has something for you, Sean. Sean, are you expecting any type of fireworks from the draft lottery? Any chance that it's fixed? Are people going to bitch about it whenever the lottery does shake out?

And is this like the – I mean, everyone has known that when byana's going to go number one for it seems like almost like two years now um after that like our team's even that excited i mean it seems like we know like who the top three guys are and then after that it's kind of a crap shoot no i mean i think teams are definitely excited because not you have victor women yama who like you, will be the number one pick. But then Scoot Henderson, the Thompson twins, Brandon Miller. You have guys in this draft class that could be star players for sure.

I think there are guys that are Chris Murray, Tyler Hendricks. There are guys here that could be factors for NBA teams. But I do think whoever gets the number one overall pick, you know why it's so big? It heightens your team value. It raises your team value. It raises the stakes for you as an organization if you get the number one overall pick

because this is a potential generational player. We'll see what he can stay healthy and all those other question marks that exist as they do with every player. But if he can come in and be what everyone expects, that has a landmark changing move for your organization. So you're going to see a lot of fallout from this combine, from this draft lottery tomorrow, the combine as a whole.

There are going to be some upset teams that don't get number one. Houston, San Antonio, Detroit, Charlotte, all teams that were essentially down the stretch playing for number one. We'll see who gets it. Connor? Yeah, if Houston gets it, San Antonio, Detroit, Charlotte, all teams that were essentially down the stretch playing for number one. We'll see who gets it. Connor? Yeah, if Houston gets it, Choms, do you expect San Antonio or a team that's pissed to just tell everybody what happened with the Mayu Doka so that everyone gets pissed at Houston?

Yeah, what happened? I feel like I came on this show and told you guys what happened, at least most of it. We have to pull it up. That's the thing. Archives. It's the most of it. Let's pull it up from the archives. It's the most of it part you just said no one's really

said what all of it has been that's true that's true maybe one day do you know maybe a lot of people know shams i don't know how a lot of people could know if it hasn't really leaked that much maybe one day in indianapolis you know we'll we'll have to play pickleball or two on two for the information fair enough enough. Thunderball. We'll see what happens. I think you're going to see a situation where whoever gets the number one overall pick,

there are going to be some crazy trade offers that are going to be made for that number one pick this year. I don't foresee it being traded, but it will be interesting to see how many teams call the team that get the number one pick and just throw star players, future picks, et cetera, at them. Shams, I don't know if we've had you on since, you know,

these head coaches talking about you. Steve Kerr, he didn't even mention you in a presser saying you're consulting on the roster management or something over there? Yeah, he called you Shams. Is this normal? Is that a normal thing to happen, Shams? And that's a compliment. The coaches are talking about you.

Yeah, I mean, you know, I think in that instance, I'm sure Steve Kerr was a little upset that his lineup got out there. So, listen, Steve Kerr can say whatever he wants about me. I'm here to take it. I'm just here to do my job. Now you've got to worry about those people. He's looking for the rat, though, Shams. He's looking for the rat in the locker room, right?

Listen, all I know, all I know, AJ, I've got people everywhere. Shams does have people everywhere. That's a great way to end it, Shams. I appreciate you so much, man. Thanks for your time. Enjoy your secretive location and that sweet jacket and clean T-shirt you have on, and we will talk to you later, Shams. Thank you.

Shams Sharani, everybody. Yeah, Shams! Shams! Ooh, yeah, right at the later Shams. Thank you. Shams Sharani everybody. Yeah Shams! Oh yeah I forgot. At the very end I remember you know Steve Kerr. Calling Shams like a what does he say he's a roster guru or he knows everything about the roster. It was right wasn't it? Yeah he was like I don't know why

I keep anything a secret when there's people like Shams out there who are loving lunch. He said Shams? Yeah. And loving lunch. I don't know if he said loving lunch. He might have, but yeah, he called them shams. It was bullshit. Oh, I didn't see that. I just read it.

I didn't hear it or watch it. Could you imagine what would happen if you, while you're playing for the Packers, some lineup got out? What would Big Mike McCarthy say? Oh, he would. Like, yeah, especially when it comes to a lineup. Like, yeah, yeah, he's not going to be. Or like, what if you told something about another player?

Well, you know, whoever went and played on that guy playing, he actually just got hurt on Saturday morning. He's not going to be in the lineup tomorrow. Like if you did something like that. Well, and even for the NBA, if it was something like that. Like if Gary Payton was hurt and it's like, hey, Gary Payton's going to be active tonight. Like, okay, that's one thing.

To tell the world that he's going to start and that they're making a change to their lineup. And the NBA is so small, too, to where it's – there's only, what, 12 players on a team? There's 15 at most? 12, yeah. However many coaches they have? There's not – they don't travel.

Like, when they go on a team playing, there's not a ton of people. In football, there's a million people involved. There's so many front office. It's a lot harder to find who that rat might be or who might be leaking this info. In basketball, I'd imagine it's pretty easy. Oh, yeah. I mean, there's front all, but there's only,

like if it's a roster thing of this guy's playing or he's not playing, there's only a few people you know that know that info. It's probably a player. It leaks to an agent. Agent leaks to Shams. Yeah. That's what it is. That would make a lot more sense.

That's what everything is. Agents talk, and it's not even leaking. It's just business. It's how they do it. But, yeah, and agents talk. Players represent the players. The agents are going to, yeah, tell it. But, yeah, and agents talk. Players represent the players. The agents are going to, yeah, that's how it happens. Shams is always going to find the cheese.

He said he's got people everywhere. That's right. I believe it. How do you get your people everywhere? How do you get them to trust you? I don't understand how it works, to be completely honest, especially because he's pretty, like, young in the inside. Very young.

That's how he came. Like, how did he get his foot in the door? Hands. Lunch. Yeah. Invite him to lunch. Yep. And they're like, Jesus Christ, this guy fucking loves lunch so much.

He's going to be a great insider. Can you explain exactly why Shams loves lunch and why we talk about it so much? Someone scrolled down to his Twitter from like 10 years ago. So he was like a high schooler? Yeah, he was in high school just tweeting like, can't wait for lunch. Every day at like 11 o'clock. That was his only tweet of the day. Love lunch.

Falling for lunch today. Did he get a bunch of traction, a bunch of interaction? I think a lot of people did. Lunchtime, lunchtime. Did he get hacked? Is this a bot or did he just love lunch? No, it's him. Just had lunch.

Oh, and it's not every single day. He skips days sometimes. Sometimes, yeah, you're right. Two more periods till lunch. You're looking at the menu in high school and you have those days where it's like, I cannot fucking wait for lunch that day. I loved footlong day. Elementary

school, they would give you a printed out they give you a printed out sheet of your lunch for like two weeks and I would circle footlong hot dog day time. That was a good day? I love eating the footlong hot dogs. Did you eat grilled chicken?

Hell yeah. You're a terrible person. Did you eat grilled chicken every day when you were young, too? No, I ate terrible growing up. I drank 10 Mountain Dews, and I lived on Pepsi, Mountain Dew, and Pizza Hut. Just impossible to believe that, but okay. But it is 100% true, because my mom didn't cook very much. Yeah, two older brothers, and we just ate garbage.

Did you eat like shit in college or not? No, senior year in high school, I read Bill Phillips, the founder of EAS's book, and started eating healthy. EAS Science? EAS, the supplement company. Yeah. So you've had grilled chicken and rice forever since you were 18. But I think because I was eating so terrible, and that was just eating to me. But then I read it, and I'm like, man, this is probably, if I want to operate at a higher level,

I can't be doing this. And so I started eating health food. What was your go-to at Pizza Hut? I'm all cheese pizza. I'm very plain. People hate me. I'm not a foodie. I don't like, I like pepper.

I like spices. You like to go in person? I put pepper on everything. Did you like to go in person to the sweet? Oh, my gosh. My brother, we would go to Pizza Hut lunch buffet during school because we could drive. Boom. I would eat 5,000 Lunch Buffet during school because we could drive. Boom.

I would eat 5,000 breadsticks dipped in the marinara, and I would get the thin crust cheese pizza. I would get the pan-tossed cheese pizza, and I would drink 15 fountain Pepsis with those big red cups that you used to have. You were doing it right. That was life. Were you so pumped when Brady Quinn got that EAS endorsement deal? No, I'm done.

Brady had a deal where he was jumping up from a lake, and he popped up and was throwing a ball. It was a pretty sweet commercial. Yeah, I was pumped because I got some. I was never actually a big protein shake guy. Still am not. Never enjoyed the taste. Never really got into it.

Well, I thought you'd just shred up ground chicken and mix it with water. Yeah, I'd do that still, yeah. That would be so gross. That's what you'd do. If you just blended up food and sucked it with water. I do that still, yeah. That would be so gross. That's what you do. If you just blended up food and sucked it down through a straw, which people do that, right? Yeah, that's what you... Didn't you ask for Christmas? Just a magic bullet? If they have to.

Magic bullet, can't do it, isn't good enough. Vitamix, you need those big expensive $1,200 ones. They do do it. Like Diggs. How much protein do you consume per day? 38 grams. That feels like it's not enough. Got to get your macros right. It might be enough.

I don't know. What are you supposed to do? One gram per pound of body weight? You ever heard that? That's about right. If you're trying to make gains. Conman, you're still working out, aren't you? I love the Hawk House, yeah.

Yeah, aren't you still? You're not part of a program? No, I'm not part of a program. I mean, you're doing a program. Like, you have your own plan. Yes. You're doing stuff. I have a nice little schedule.

It's kind of worked out here. I love it in there. It's awesome. What about Zeke? Zeke's crushing it. You got those meal plans still? No, the gout really took those out. Gout came back? Gout came back heavy. What makes gout come back?

A lot of red beer, steak, everything that's good in life. Anything a king eats. How do we combat that I read here. Sodium. Steak. What? Everything that's good in life. What? No. Anything a king eats. How do we combat that so to where you still can have those nice finer things every once in a while? Lose weight. Is that what it is?

No. Probably. Yeah. If I had to guess. What does gout do? Does it hurt? Oh, my God. It feels like your foot goes out of commission.

In your feet? Yeah. My left foot got attacked last, and I couldn't walk. I believe it's a buildup of calcium or something in your foot, so it feels like you're stepping. I believe it's acid, I believe, or some kind of like- It's based off what you're eating? Yeah. It's hard to break down.

It's the same thing as a kidney stone. Oh. But in your foot. Those are terrible. Those are very terrible. Exactly. Do you have gout, Ty? No, I had several kidney stones, though.

Just because? Apparently, they're connected. Like, you could have. What are the ones you piss out? You try to pee out? You can get their kidneys out. Yeah, they told me I'd be able to pee mine out. Turns out they were way too big, so I got very sick, and they had to go in and blast them.

You get really sick. It's not just painful. You get super sick, too no like i i mean it's like i heard if you haven't guys well guys claim this there's no way to test it but they claim if you pee out a kidney stone it's like having a baby yeah allegedly that's the story like a baby coming around i mean honestly the worst part is uh getting the catheter put in after Were you awake for a catheter being put in? Did they do that? No, but I was awake when they took it out. I see.

They don't do catheter for normal surgery, do they? I don't know. They're not playing around with my Johnson putting a catheter in there when they knock me out, are they? No, I don't think so. I know they're putting a tube down my throat. I learned that after my first couple of surgeries. I was like, what are you talking about? They don't.

Yes, they have to breathe for you, bud. You're knocked out. But they're not catheter. I don't hope I've had a catheter. i don't think so so they just ripped it out your pee hole no he told like i was supposed to take it out on my own and i couldn't do it i was just like i i'm not mentally tough enough to do this i'm sorry i gotta go in and then i saw how long it was i was like yeah i would never be able to do that he's like yeah a lot of people can't yeah i i can see why it's how

is it like a tube within a tube that goes in and then i don't know uh senior year thank you senior year of high school you started eating well did you know that you were gonna or maybe you didn't know did you know like you wanted to go to the nfl like hey if i changed my nutrition i wanted to play i wanted my whole goal my whole life was to play for my high school football team because those guys were the pinnacle of football. And then the very end of high school, going into my senior year, I was like, I might be able

to get a scholarship from Ohio State. So I was like, go play at Ohio State. I never thought more than three minutes ahead. When did you know? Like, was there, like, freshman year when you were playing? To go to the NFL? Yeah. No. I never thought of the NFL until I was about to fly out to go to Vegas after my junior season. I turned – January 6th is my birthday.

Nothing to do with whatever happened over there. Oh, yeah, sure. That was my birthday. I turned 21 my junior year and was about to fly to Vegas with General Bob and Mangold and my buddies and my brother, one of my brothers. And, like, the SID or whatever was like, hey, do you want to put out a statement that you're coming back for your senior year? I was like, what do you know? I was never an option.

I was leaving. I never thought about leaving before. And so I was like, no, thanks, though. Like I didn't need to feel like I need to say something. Yeah, sure. So then I was like, oh, okay. And then you left. And then I went and went to Vegas and then played my senior year.

And that like that was one of the moments where it was like, oh, fuck, people expect me to go there. Where it felt like it could be a reality, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because I was like, wait, could I have left? Could I have left after this year? I thought of that. It made me think of that.

I didn't want to. I knew it after they told me that. Yes. After they said that. Weren't you an All-American your sophomore and your junior year, though? No, just junior. I don't think. Yeah, just my junior, I believe.

Two time. So I guess it would be junior-senior. I don't think it was sophomore-senior. See, that's crazy how it was then. Oh, now it's so different. Because now that's all they think about. It's what you think about when you're a freshman in high school. Which place gives me the best platform and the best opportunity to get to the NFL? Well, even look at the Boses.

Nick Bosa, the year before he was going to the draft, was like, you know what? I probably just shouldn't play because I'm going to be a top five pick next year. Well, he had a core surgery, too. Yes, exactly. And their dad played. They were professionals when they showed up on campus, I think. Those dudes knew, and they're such freaks. But, yeah, I guess it's everyone.

I don't know. I think any time, it would be really tough being a young kid, being highly recruited with all that, even if you don't take on that pressure or whatever, just thinking. I think it should be. If you're playing in your high school team, it's awesome. You know when you're a young kid and you see your high school guys, you stand there and watch the high school team walk out,

and they're wearing metal spikes, and you can hear their spikes. Click, click, click. I give you goosebumps thinking about those dudes. I know all those guys that went through Centerville High School before me are, like, the biggest celebrities I've ever known because I just hear stories about them and watch them and then whatever. And so I feel like wherever you're playing, that should be, like, the pinnacle. Yeah.

It should be like, yes, this is awesome. I'm going to do whatever I can to continue to play here and make plays here. And then hopefully towards the end, if I get an opportunity to play somewhere else at another level, then maybe I can. But also, like, such a meathead just, like I said, I never thought about anything five seconds down the road, and I'm very glad I actually was that way.

Yeah, well, now there's NIL because now it's like kids are – Now you've got to get an agent in high school. Exactly. It's not just like, hey, you know, you should hopefully focus in on this game. It's like, hey, if you don't play well, you're probably going to lose a couple million dollars over the season. Oh, boy. That's tough.

And they have like – it was always where you could have like hangers on, people that were like basically on the payroll in college. But now it's almost like everybody. If a guy's a good player, he's got a crew with him. There's like a crew of people around him. And you kind of wonder maybe there's a thought that there's less pressure when you get to college because you've already dealt with that in high school right yeah you've it's not nothing's new yeah like oh all of a sudden wow look at this like because yeah when i got to college it is a bit

eye-opening when you talk to the media and do all this stuff and you realize the stage you're on because in high school you do but it's no it doesn't feel that yeah but if you're going to ohio state that first game you're playing you're playing in front of like 100,000 people. I assume that's a pretty big fucking – It's a pretty big deal. Well, and just the in-team competition versus your high school team, obviously, is like, hey, guess what? Everyone is just as good as me as I was in high school for my senior year.

Oh, yeah. I came in – my freshman year in college was the last year they did freshman camp. They don't do freshman camp anymore. Luckily, we had a class of like 25 freshmen, like Santonio Holmes, Troy Smith. I mean, just unbelievable studs top to bottom. And we practiced for like five days before the rest of the team got there. In pads, too, by the way. But we didn't have – you don't have enough players to go 11 on 11.

So we'd be doing drills where we're playing linebacker, and then we'd rotate. I got to give a look as a running back, like things like that. And we just pounded each other and ran for a week straight. It's sweet, though, that you didn't have to spend time, though, with your freshman class five days before everyone else. It was awesome. But then we were already so beat up and dead by the time the vets showed up.

And that was back in the day, too. There's no rules. You can do as many practices. You can be in pads as much as you want, all of it. You'll never say this, but I assume you were probably the best player out of those freshmen. But aside from that, did Santonio Holmes do anything where it was like, holy shit.

Yeah, every day. Yeah. Tone redshirted, though. But like Troy Smith. Troy and Justin Zwick, same class, both the same age. Maurice Claret was in the class as well. But he was already there, right? Yep, he came up in the spring.

I remember coming to watch him play spring ball a few times and just seeing him as a 17 18 year old high school senior just killing dudes at spring ball like he's he's a specimen but like zwick and troy smith came in they were freshmen both of them right off the bat i was like oh these guys ball comes out of these guys hands a little different than what i'm used to like what they could do was so special so i was kind of in all of all of that, I think. So they were all everyone felt really, really good. Like you knew, like, okay, we got a pretty sweet freshman class here. Yeah.

And I didn't have any expectations of like, they would ask, oh, do you want a red shirt? Do you think your red shirt? I was like, I don't know. Whatever the coach tells me to do, I'm going to run fast. That's what I'm going to do. I know I'm on kickoff team and kickoff return and all the special teams, I'll run as fast as I can. But Bob, our first game ever, Bob made the first tackle on kickoff team and kickoff return and all the special teams. I'll run as fast as I can. But Bob, our first game ever, Bob made the first tackle on kickoff.

It was awesome. No way. We're running down. Bob goes and makes a sweet tackle like on the eight-yard line of the dude and jumps up with a crazy celebration. The place went crazy. It was awesome. Really cool start to all of it.

Yeah, we knew. I knew Bob was a monster from day one. Well, yeah. Just watch him walk. See that? He had long hair back in the day, oh yeah when he was in high school and so he was an absolute specimen could run like a four four two absurd that's the general baby and that and now look like i wonder if they you said they don't do freshman stuff anymore is that because like half the team is

transfers now well it stopped right after i don't. Honestly, I bet the coaches hated it. The coaches had to come in a full week early and work with this whole freshman. And it was because you didn't have – that was going into our senior year, I believe. Yeah, Schlage came on after our freshman year. We host him on his visit from the Air Force Academy. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

We've had to recreate that picture a few times on the Buckeye cruise. Oh, you don't say. Yeah. No way. Yeah, you don't say. Do the photo. Do the photo, dude. Because there's – Homage made a shirt with that picture a few times on the Buckeye cruise. Oh, you don't say? Yeah. No way. Yeah, you don't say. Do the photo. Do the photo, dude. Because there's homage made a shirt with that picture on it. So we'll, yeah, take pictures of us wearing a shirt and the other person wearing a shirt doing that.

So, yeah. We didn't know that 20 years ago that that was going to be still living. That was going to be a thing, yeah. Buckeye hero. How old are you now, Ty? 32. Ty, you're 28? 28.

Diggs? 35. Are you? Uh- 28. Diggs? 35. Are you? Uh-huh. You guys are all very young. Who's the youngest guy here, Mitt? Yeah. Yes, Mitt is the youngest guy here.

Mitt, what are you? Mitt is 18. Mitt went snowboarding this weekend. Yeah, he did. He did. Just killing it. How did he go? Do we know if he's hurt?

Yeah, he was shredding NAR, but allegedly his sister was dominating him up and down the mountain. Do we have the MIT cam? Is that available? Sorry to spring this on you. I know you guys made me aware of this MIT cam. He's on the phone right now. I'm not sure what he's doing. What's he saying, Ty?

Actually, stop fucking putting the camera on me, okay? I'm getting you bored. I'm getting my bindings right now. He is bad. He's got me pissed. Good run, good run. Where'd he go? What'd you do this weekend?

Man, we had a bunch of games, a bunch of lacrosse games, a bunch of basketball games, and then got to get the moms and everybody together and went to dinner Sunday night yesterday. Did you do any fishing? You a big fishing guy? No. You got that pond, though, on your back. Well, it's my in-laws, my sister-in-law, her pond. So?

It's right in front. I know, believe me. I need some equipment. I don't have any fishing equipment right now. Well, Pat actually my in-laws, my sister-in-law, her pond. It's right in front. I know, believe me, I need some equipment. I don't have any fishing equipment right now. Well, Pat actually sent this to me, and I'd be remiss if I didn't mention it. A Colorado angler broke the world record, caught a 73-pound lake trout on the first day of fishing season out there. I mean, just every fisherman's dream. 73-pound trout? Are you kidding me?

73-pound trout. We got a picture of this guy? No fucking way. I do not have a picture, but believe me when I tell you just every fisherman's dream. 73-pound trout? Are you kidding me? We got a picture of this guy? No fucking way. Lake trout. So not like fly fishing stream trout. What's a lake trout look like compared to a rainbow trout I catch in a stream? Massive.

73 pounds? Is that a sturgeon? That thing's gigantic. There's got to be a photo. First day of the season. If there's not a photo, I don't believe this guy. I need to see the photo. First day of the season. First day of the season. If there's not a photo, I don't believe this guy. I need to see the photo. Or Gavin. Was he out in a boat? What was his lure?

What kind of lure? That's a good question. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Oh, he got a boat dog as well. Oh, he's smart. I love a boat dog.

Did they cut him open to make sure there was no metal balls inside? That's a good question. A lot of that going around right now. How much do those guys get? They get jail time for that? Ten days. Ten days. Ten days. Holy shit.

Look at that. That is every angler's dream right there. That's got to be pregnant, right? That looks like a tuna. No, that's just a big son of a bitch. You've got to be kidding me. Did they take him or did they put him back? No, that one you're taking home.

No. No, respect the fish. No way. No way. Go eat that guy. No way. Do not let that thing go. Guys, don't let that thing go.

What are we doing? If they let this go, I might be faked. No way. Catch and release. Respect the fish. That needs to be on your wall. Yeah, exactly. They were soaking him up, letting him get his last gulp of water before they slid his

head down onto the boat and then went and stuffed him. Okay, good. I was going to say, if they let that go, I was going to call into question whether they caught that thing for real. That wouldn't be that funny if that was on video. That wouldn't be. No, it wouldn't be. It's your last little drink, little pal.

It wouldn't be funny at all, but that is, I mean, on the first day of season two. Guess what? You're kidding me. Oh, my gosh. Look at that son of a bitch. Was that around a nuclear power plant? Like, what is happening? Why is the belly so distended?

I think it ate like a 73-pound boulder, actually. This thing had to. that would make sense. Chewing rocks. No, these guys made this thing swallow a damn kettlebell. That's why it weighs 73 pounds. Look how big this guy's hands are. That's how you know he is a world class angler. Oh, wow. So this is in Colorado. Yep.

Oh, wow. He's got Bill's Black Rifle Coffee Company. Wait, I see you, Bill. What? I was going to say, yeah, wait, how'd this guy get Bill's jacket? Oh, yeah. Can you imagine? I mean, you'd have to just almost retire from Anglin after that. Yeah, how long did it take him to reel it in?

What about, like, you get home and your kids and your significant others are like, oh, look at this. I caught this 7'3 pounder. Everyone's like, yeah, great. I've been starving all day. Oh, no, we put him back. That's what I mean. They'd be pissed. They'd be so mad he didn't bring him home. Well, guess what? You're stuffing that thing. You're not eating it. You teach the family from birth.

They build you a replica. Respect the fish. You put the fish back. Why? No way. Respect the fish. I'm taking that thing to shore and I'm showing everybody. Caught and released. Scott and Lo, respect the fish. Oh, it's son Hunter. Okay. So is he the goat?

Did they go out expecting, hey, whatever we catch, we're going to release? Probably. I don't want to go fishing if that's the case. Well, you're not a true angler then, really. I like to catch. I like to catch fish. If I'm going out there, you got to catch something within the first 20 minutes. There's more fish in the sea, though, you know?

But that's not the sea. That's a lake or a river, I think. Well, this guy's probably thinking, like, it doesn't matter because I'm bringing my family home piping hot Long John Silvers after the day ends anyway. So whatever I catch is not going to be what we're eating tonight. Delicious Hush Bobby. Remember the little crunchies that were around the chicken fingers? Oh, yeah.

All the crunchy stuff around it? Unbelievable. Con doesn't know about it. I actually don't. I've never eaten at Long John's. Do they not have it up there in the coastal Elitas? I don't know. They have real seafood. Oh, never eaten at Long John's. Do they not have it up there in the coastal Elitist area? I don't know. They have real seafood.

Oh, Jimmy's. Long John's. They don't have Jimmy's, actually, but that is a Baltimore company. Scumbag's great food, but they do have illegal seafood, a lot of mom and pop shops. It's a little different, but I've heard Long John's is amazing. I haven't been there in a while.

They are tough to find. They're usually like a two-by-two with A&W. A&W root beer thing, which is another thing I can't find. I love footlong hot dogs. They have footlongs there? I haven't had a footlong since elementary school probably. Now you get it, Connor.

What's that? You know like when we compare Long John's to your stuff? Don't compare fucking Fazellini's to my stuff. Oh, Fazellini's is so good. Oh yeah, there's Long John's. Look at that coleslaw. I am a fan of coleslaw. That's chicken, right? I don't want fish fillets like that.

And that's scrimp, which you don't like. You had some scrimp like that last week when I walked in. You had some fried scrimp. From long johns, correct? No, I wish. It was from TGI Fridays. That's right. Fridays is a solid spot. That looks pretty good. I might have to find a Long John's on the way home.

Yeah. Get extra hush puppies. Extra? Mm-hmm. Tomorrow's going to be a big show, guys. You know that? Huge. Huge show.

Tuesday, May 16th. Yeah. It's already May 16th. Kids are almost out of school. We have so many guests. Pretty nuts. Can't wait for all the great guests, right? It's going to be fun.

These next two weeks as well, conference finals, and then a show on NBA. So what's tonight? What games do we have tonight? Only one game tonight. It is the Crocken versus the Stars in Dallas. Game seven, though, right? Game seven. So we have a game seven.

Any sport, a game seven is always fun. And that's the only one. And being a West Coast team, usually the games are later. This one starts at 8. 8 o'clock tonight. On ESPN? On T. Oh, I want to see TNT.

TNT. That's where Biz and the boys are right because there is no basketball tonight which is another reason they're talking about John Moran so much but then tomorrow is when the conference finals start with the Nuggets and Lakers endeavor okay before we end could we at least oh I mean you guys you sons of bitches what happened what you guys don't even respect the Dwayne Johnson Rocky Cup. That was yesterday. Thank you.

That's a good point. Thank you. That's a good point. Tell the people what we have. Two teams played yesterday. One team won. They won the Rocky Cup. It was awesome.

What team won? The Rocky Cup, first off, that's very disrespectful how you have brought this up, but it was the XFL had their championship game, right? Bob Stoops finally won the big one. Yep. Oh, good. Stoops' team won. Yeah, Stoops' he won. Got it done.

And this team, he coaches what team? He coaches the Arlington Renegades. That's right. Ty got pretty upset that I even had to ask that question. Arlington Renegades. Okay. Dwayne The Rock Johnson, his left arm is the biggest arm I've seen. Is that a quad? Look at his arm. Yeah, it's massive.

How much do you think that watch was? That's a cool fucking watch. Looks like an IWC. Eight million. Hold on. Is Max Crosby playing for the Renegades? Where? The Condor? Right there.

Right in the middle. Oh, yeah. Wow. Is that him? That does look like the Condor. What the hell? How'd they get him? What are we doing?

No wonder the Renegades won. This game was played in San Antonio, correct? Yeah, the Alamo Dome. At the Alamo Dome. Okay. I've played a game there. They knocked off the D.C. defenders who were 10-1. Yeah, good team. Oh, no.

Led by... This was an upset of the century. Overall, this is a successful season. Luis Perez, quarterback stud, he actually gave a unbelievable halftime speech, I believe. Did they show it? I think you would love it. Yep, they showed it. It was awesome. He got the boys so jacked up. Were they down?

Was it like a... I don't know? Was it like a Al Pacino type? Yeah, every inch. Pump up speech, yeah. I would put it up there. I mean, they're going to make a fucking movie about the Renegades, so they'll probably have that speech. I thought Netflix was already following these guys, like the whole league. Weren't they making another PGA Tour thing?

I didn't know they were doing that. They should. Honestly, if they're not, they should be making like docu-series stuff. You might be thinking of the Netflix show that's coming out with Mahomes, Kirk Cousins, and Marcus Mariota. Oh, what's that called? Quarterbacks. Yeah, something like that. Actually.

It's like QB1, but it's pro-quarterbacks. Pro, correct. And they fought them all this season? Whole season. And Mahomes is one of them. Were the crews with them like a lot all the time? And we're going to see like a full recap of all the season? How many episodes?

Omaha is going to be sweet. We'll probably see him at home. It's like hard knocks, but for individual players. And they probably haven't mic'd up for a lot of the games, right? Probably all the games. How'd they get okayed through the teams? They asked the head coaches. And the head coaches were cool with it.

Peyton was on and talked about it, right? Yes. Oh, okay. So name the head coaches. And the head coaches were cool with it. Peyton was on and talked about it, right? Yes. So name the quarterbacks one more time. Mahomes, Mariota, Kirk Cousins. So kind of like three. One guy who won it all. One guy who ended up losing his job. And then one guy who had one of the better seasons. Is that what they were going for to try to give us different...

Everyone's NFL experience is not the same. That could be a great show. They were close with Jalen Hurts too. At the last second said he didn't want to do it. I'm surprised old Patty Mahomes agreed to do that. You think they paid him? They had to. Must have.

How did Peyton sell it? Like, hey, I wish my kids, when they grew up, had something to show what it was like. Okay, I get it. And then I guess he went to Andy, and Andy was like, Peyton, would you have done this when you were a quarterback? Yeah, what did he say? No, no, no, no, no.

But now that I'm done, I would have liked to have this done. But in the moment, no. Yeah. Yeah, I heard Jeter say that. I think Jeter, his big – when he was getting – when he was finishing up that last year he had, he said, I want something to show my kids. Like, when I do have kids, like, this is what I – this is kind of cool.

I get that. That would be weird to be Derek Jeter, play 20-some years in the majors, be the face of everything, and then you're done, and then he has his kids, and his kids are like, Dad, what did you used to do? Yeah. You just hang out here at the house all day. Dad, you just sit around all day and do nothing. I mean, yeah.

Real life. That's cool. I guess you have something to show them. I'll watch that. When's it come out? I think this summer. Soon, I think. I bet Kirk has some good one-liners.

Yeah, absolutely. I also am very interested to see how Mariota, how he handled it. Because Mariota's kind of quiet, right? We don't really hear much from him ever. And now he's doing a show where you – It's an odd choice, isn't it? Exactly, yeah. Because that's how that whole golf thing at Netflix,

when they were following the golfers, some golfers, I'm like, some guys just don't talk very much. They don't say a whole lot. They're not going to expand on it. Like Scotty Scheffler, he's not going to give you extra info. He's a great dude. Seems awesome. Almost won yesterday though. Almost. Too bad

fucking Jason Day was on. Jason Day killed it. I watched him hit that. He had a chip shot on 18. He hit it to like two feet. Foot and a half. Then he just had to tap that birdie in and get the win. That's what he said afterwards. He was like, I would have never been here if I wouldn't have been on episode 87 of the HawkCast.

That's right. With that being said, we're going to wrap this sucker up, guys. I appreciate Jason Day. PGA Championship this week. This week. Rochester. Rochester, New York. Aren't they usually a pretty spirited crowd when they go to that? Yeah. In that region?

They're rowdy. They get after it. They're a bit rowdy. All right, I already picked John Rahm. Okay. Who'd you pick? Hold on, John Rahm's a bold pick. Yeah, I already picked him. Why would you?

Jeez, all right. Who you got, Scotty? You extra bold? I'm going to go with Rory McIlroy. Okay. Oh. Ty? Hideki Matsuyama.

Ooh, good pick. He won the Memorial a couple years ago. I'll tell you Wednesday. Okay, that sounds good. Yep. Okay. Oh. Ty? Hideki Matsuyama. Ooh, good pick. He won the Memorial a couple years ago. I'll tell you Wednesday. Okay. That sounds good. Yep. Tell me Wednesday. I'll be in the attic.

I haven't handicapped yet. Oh, yeah. You're still. You got to put all that stuff together. All right. Boys, appreciate it. Everyone behind the glass, thank you guys. Everyone tuned in, watched, listened, wherever you see this.

Thank you very much. I'm still sitting here holding it down for Pat. He and Sam are still dominating back home with McKenzie, their baby, doing great things. I know he'll be back here eventually in the short term. I forgot to mention this. Maybe I'm not supposed to. You just left a half sucked lozenge on Pat's

desk. I would never take something out of my mouth that it wasn't eaten. Unfortunately, there was one. There was a... You mean like a Hall's drop? Bingo. You think I would, first off, take one out and put it down? I think...

If I ever didn't finish one of these, who am I? Why would I not finish one? This is what I think. I think you might have put... Maybe we go to break, right? Yeah. We go to the bathroom. We come back.

You pop one in your mouth. Oh. All of a sudden, countdown clock starts. Or not the countdown clock. I want to be professional and not come on air with something in my mouth like that. Oh, I've got in your mouth. All of a sudden, countdown clock starts. I want to be professional and not come on air with something in my mouth like that. Bingo. And then you take it out and then you might have forgotten about it. That is definitely possible.

It didn't happen, but that is a possibility. I think it did happen, unfortunately. I could see how that could happen to somebody. It didn't happen in this case, but I can see where you think that. Were you eating those lozenges last week? I've had a couple years. Oh, so was you. Okay. That's not how it works.

No, okay, I think it is, but who do you think would do it then if it wasn't him? I don't know. I don't know what's going on around here when I leave. Okay. Did you hammer down here? I don't know. Maybe Goop snuck back in the country. Well, I think if Goop was here.

He'd eat the whole lozenge. Yeah, he'd just chomp on it. I don't have the stomach. I've got to wait. It takes me like three or four hours to eat one the whole lozenge. Yeah, he'd just chomp on it. I don't have the stomach. I gotta wait. It takes me like three or four hours to eat one of these lozenges. Okay, so it was you then. All you're saying is supporting the fact that you just discriminate yourself. You would never throw it away.

Pat threw it out. No. It's not mine. Check the cameras. Okay, that's what we'll do. I definitely can see how that could happen to somebody, though. Okay. Thank you for bringing that up. We will get to the bottom of that. Yeah, we will. We have. Okay, that's what we'll do. I definitely can see how that could happen to somebody, though. Okay. Thank you for bringing that up. We will get to the bottom of that. Yeah, we will. We have.

No, we definitely have not. Okay, so when you chew on them, it takes you three to four hours, so the show's not that long. So if you did pop one in your mouth and you just said you were eating them last week, then you didn't finish it because there wasn't a four-hour show. So just connecting dots here, Hawker. Okay, agree to disagree. Okay, fine.

We'll agree to disagree on this. It was probably yours. That's why you did it. Whoever smelt it dealt it. I actually don't really like the lozenges. I don't understand what they do for people. What do you mean? It gives you like 10 seconds of relief, and then you've got to chew on another one.

Yeah. So what's the point? They get you hooked. Then you've got to do one every 15 minutes. Well, this has been Riveting Lozenges. And your mouth gets dry. I appreciate it. And you got to do one every 15 minutes. Well, this has been riveting laws. And your mouth gets dry. And then they don't even taste good anymore. Okay.

You know what? I'm going to take off con. You can stay here and try to get to the bottom of this laws situation if you need to. No, I already did. Thank you, though. All right. It was not me. But maybe.

I would be a professional and I would remove something, but I would throw it away or I would finish it. That's what I'm saying. Okay. I can understand that. I appreciate you bringing it up. We shouldn't have half-eaten things sitting here all over the desk. This desk is immaculate right now. It does look good, but I'm not going to add to it.

I'm not going to put any trash because then Anthony Rich doesn't have to come and throw it away. And throw it away. I don't want him to have to throw my trash away. Fair. Look at that. That's actually who picked it up. Full circle.

Yeah, he did come in here. He was here earlier. He heard. He felt it. He felt that someone left some trash away. Fair. Look at that. That's actually who picked it up. Full circle. Yeah, he did come in here. He was here earlier. He heard. He felt it. He felt that someone left some trash here. Fuck, there's a mess. I can smell it. It's amazing how we tie things together, how things wrap up.

Full circle. Appreciate you guys, even UConn, Ty, Diggs, obviously, everybody behind the glass. Thank you guys. Thanks for watching. We'll be back tomorrow. Let's take a quick five. We'll see you tomorrow. Bye.